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Goncar, we would only consider such an invitation if a position in the SLU's governing body could be assured for our delegate as a sign of welcoming and respect.

I talk to my superiors.

I am for whatever is in the best interest of our region. Thank you for the warm invitation there is much debate to be had!

And welcome back (again) Smurth! Always happy to see your face again :) now stick around this time!

We in the SLU have many government positions for all interested states. Exactly what type of position would need to be discussed; we have several different levels of involvement. We have the Cabinet positions, Administration positions and Governmental positions. To see the differences, you may check our Constitution. Once you have some idea, we can come to terms of a merger treaty between our regions, if you so desire.

Thanks Garchy. I get busy and that realm of RL tends get rough at times. I love this place and will never stay away forever.

I strongly believe we need to consider a merger with another region. Thoughts?

Well ... practically speaking, whether this proposed merger be good or not, technically it would be an absorption. I doubt a new region would be created for this, so it would be the 20 members of ALH being absorbed into the Social Liberal Union of 349 states. In essence, we run the risk of our 20 nations being dissolved into the Social Liberal Union's numerous 349 nations; thus loosing our uniqueness and our ALH identity / character.

I was worried about that too - while I respect our relationship we have with SLU and love how they have their own strong government and active members, they aren't ALH. We would lose the connection we all have with each other - not to mention, with so many inactive/sleeper nations we would have a hard time clearing our ALH for good anyway. I would personally rather have 5 fellow neighbor nations I truly care about than be one of many. It is everyone's say though, not just mine. After founding this region almost 10 years ago I would have trouble leaving it.

Other than just to liven things up a bit, what would a merger do for us? I'm sure the message board would be more active, which might be great for the more active nations, but otherwise, it doesn't seem that it would really benefit us. Not to hate on SLU; it's great that they have an active region, and are willing to welcome us, but there's no reason we need to abandon ALH just because it's a little slow. But, since this is a democracy, I'd say it's up to a vote.

Also, hello everybody!

If the SLU would be allowed to give input on this matter: We do not wish for you to sacrifice your identity or history for the sake of activity. We in the SLU have been discussing some sort of federal structure, where your community would be allowed to maintain itself, even expand if you so desired. The exact nature of such a structure would require Constitutional amendments on our end and some compromise on yours. That said, it seems to be a valid solution if your region would be willing to pursue it.

I'm more worried about the technicalities of a merger - the time frame would be immense, moving even 20 nations or less can take time and I would obviously feel more comfortable being the last one in the region. I also don't want to boot nations from here, that doesn't seem fair either. All in all I don't really see any particular benefit to a merger (as Laak said earlier) - it is nothing against the SLU, I just really wanted to be able to celebrate out decade as a region as a unified, separate region :-) maybe that's just my dream, even if I can only share it with a handful of other nations. That's my tidbit anyway.

I have a "stupid" question: Why I, as a member of ALH, should accept (theoretically) a merger with a region called "Social Liberal Union" ? - when I have nothing to do with socialists or socially minded anything ... In fact I prefer to be liberal in civil and political rights, but quiet right minded according to economy. This is either my real opinion as well as the way I am ruling my nation state here.

I see, that I likely disagree in that with Garchyland and also with most of the members in ALH, but at least my position is not so much against the official possitions in the region. (I never controlled the possition of Garchyland in WA, but well ("pero vamos" - as nicely say the spanish people) - it is not really my biznis. :) )

I am just trying to say, that in fact I disagree with a merger with SLU (because of ideology) and I prefer to stay in ALH. In the case of a merger I would like to look for an other region.

That is another thing I'm worried about, Tropicanas. A merger would also potentially lose some nations we have here who do not want to move to a new region of SLU.

Note: This message does not represent the whole of SLU, just me trying to get a quick message across :)

Even though the majority of views in the SLU may lean a certain way, that does not mean that others are not welcome. That being said, it looks like you guys have decided more or less against this, which is completely fine. Regardless, as we said in our initial post, we would like to engender a closer relationship with our oldest embassy. If you guys are up for that, then we can begin to strengthen our diplomatic relationships even more :)

-Millyland

WA Delegate of the Social Liberal Union

After doing further reading, I, the Minister of Foreign Affairs, think this would be a bad idea.

I personally am completely fine with the views of SLU. We in ALH are also similar in or views, or at least similar in our tolerance of all views. I am proud to say to this day we have zero nations banned from ALH (and yes we have had invasions, and yes they are still on my dossier). My personal choice to remain an independent region has nothing to do with any negative feelings to SLU. I am all for strengthening our diplomatic ties, perhaps we can send an ambassador to SLU? I'll give the stage to Derk on any ideas they may have to strengthen our diplomatic ties.

Just moved to Liberal Haven! Anything I should know?

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Hello I'm new I have two questions one how do I endorse the WA delegate and two is there a legislative branch in this government?

No map, but I'd be happy to see ideas from anyone. And we do ask that you endorse WA delegate for security and stability reasons (we've had passed issues). Legislature is welcome at any time!

I'm back. Oops.

Hi A Liberal Haven members,

Earlier on today, the results of the SLU´s ministerial elections were published. We´re happy to see a Cabinet consisting of a varied mix of the experienced and less-experienced and members from North America, Europe and Africa.

One of our longest-serving Cabinet members, Azerzia (1 year and 9 months, including several terms as Delegate), will step down as a result of the elections. We thank him for his important contributions to the region over the past years. The Deputy Minister of Defense in the First [nation=short]Millyland[/nation] Cabinet, Nytavuthar, will also step down because of the results of the election. Gunir, another long-standing member of the region, resigned mid-term due to personal circumstances, making Deputy Minister Comanici responsible for the Ministry of Immigration after one month. We thank [nation=short]Gunir[/nation] for his contribution to the region. [nation=short]Comanici[/nation] can continue serving in Immigration, but this time as the elected Minister. Goncar, the most experienced Deputy Minister of the SLU, will become Deputy Minister in Defence and hand his Minister position to one of our new members, Bonaria. Former Delegate, [nation=short]Millyland[/nation], will become Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs, replacing the current Delegate, Grolsch.

Defence

- Azerzia: 5 - 3 - 3 - 3 - 3

- Bonaria: 7 - 3 - 3 - 4 - 1 - Minister

- Goncar: 4 - 6 - 5 - 2 - 0 - Deputy Minister

- Luxembourg-Belgium: 1 - 4 - 4 - 5 - 2

- Nytavuthar: 1 - 2 - 2 - 1 - 9

Domestic Affairs

- Avaerilon: 16 - 1 - Minister

- Michadantom: 1 - 12 - Deputy Minister

Foreign Affairs

- Eggy216: 13 - 1 - Minister

- Millyland: 1 - 12 - Deputy Minister

Immigration

- Comanici: 13 - 1 - Minister

- Alantrillium: 1 - 10 - Deputy Minister

Regards,

Central Goncar

Goncar

Ambassador, Ministry of Foreign Affairs

SLU

Thank you for the update, Goncar!

Greetings from the newly formed Federal Republic of Snooponia. Please vistit our Factbook to learn more about us.

/President Lavina Beagle

when are the ALH elections?

We just had elections not too long ago

Hmm. I've been here for a little while now and I just realized I haven't posted anything here... Hi!... Sorry, that's all I've got for now. ^_^'

I just published a short Factbook about religion. Please read it and try to see why a Liberal country shouldn't be influenced by religion at all.

I'm not a native english speaker, keep that in mind please.

I've decided to revive my nation, though I doubt I'm remembered at all. Not to mention, none of this says just how active I'll be on here. Probably not very.

It's nice to see Garchyland is still our WA delegate.

What do you mean not remember Alevuss? It wasn't really that long ago, of course we remember you! Welcome back

Hello i am new here so what do i do in this game?

Hello, I am back. I just had longer Holidays when I switched off (the brain and computer) :) And the game was not patient enough with me ...

Welcome back Tropicanas! And looks like the notorious Black Hawks have raided The South Pacific. Noticed TBH's own region has no WA Nations - wouldn't it be fun to have someone raid them and set up shot? Not us, I'm afraid.

Erm provoking the hawks might not be wise in the circumstances here.

Well of course not. Seems like they have a pretty vulnerable weak point though.

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I would have been game for that.

Our ally and recent embassy counterpart South Pacific has a liberation Security Council measure that has just made queue. I urge all WA nations to please vote YES when it comes up for vote in the next few days.

Hey everyone just got here

I move that Garchy be allowed to vote in that measure and throw our full support behind it.

Thanks Derk - I did actually vote yes already, I wanted to place it before it didn't matter. Unfortunately our resolution behind security counsel measures and voting on WA measures has rendered me pretty inactive in the WA as of late. Maybe some revising is due as long as there's no possibility for abuse by a delegate.

Hey what are we all talk in about here...

Anything you'd like, Curiosityness. Start a topic!

Pandas....pandas are cool

Oh I have this terrorism issue where I don't really know whether I should ignore it or what, this is basicly what it narrows down to:

war

Legalizing terrorism

Change our ways

Throwing people out of the country

make it to where they can tap into people phones

And something abut their religion

If I don't like the issues that I have or if I only have 2 resolutions that's I don't agree with I'll dismiss it. I think I've dismissed that one before because I didn't like the severity of the options. What kind of nation are you trying to become? That can help me help you make a decision.

More Pacifist, eco-friendly, nonreligious. Stuff like that but I just dismissed it to yesterday cause I guess the same reason you did, kinda wish their was a "talk it out" option haha

We have an embassy request - any suggestions? The region is Obama Empire

I am thinking no - small, unestablished region - the Founder is also the WA Delegate, not something I'm usually for since it's a sign of a lack of real democracy. My gut says no. Anyone else agree or disagree?

what does it mean when we have an embassy request?

Is their a point to it?

I agree Garchy, setting up an embassy with a tiny region is a wast of time, they can come back when they grow up, if they do.. cheers Snoop

Curiosityness, forming diplomatic ties is just one of the many role playing things we can do as a region in this game. Not really a "point" to it like there is in the real world, but it is a warm extension of diplomacy.

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Got a job today :D.......just thought I'd share my pointless news haha

Joined your region, rather instresting place you got here

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Skyjumper

Hello Fellow Nation,

I am here to convince you to join United North America. We are a free and very active region! We accept all nations! Doesn't matter if you're a Dictatorship, Democracy, Fascism, or Anarchy! No Matter if your a Conservative (Republican) or Liberal (Democrat) We will accept you! You may even take part in our Regional Government. Delegate Elections and Senate Elections help to keep the region active. Our Senate meet to discuss bills every week! There are endless amounts of activity in the region, and you could be a part of it too! Joining the World Assembly is something that would be prefer but is not enforced, so you don't have to worry.

Move your nation to United North America today!

Link to our region:

United North America

Regional Political Parties:

Liberal Party; Run by North Omaha

Conservative Party; Run by Paramountica

Libertarian Party; Run by Heavenly Peace

How does everyone like the new telegram system? Just don't like how everything is kinda cleared out, weird

Some years ago I have been chosen a national animal for Islas Tropicanas, it is the Shark. I am not a native speaker, so I do not know if "animal" in English means only terrestrial animals - but clearly the authors of the game supposed something like that. Therefore several times happened, that my decision resulted in some very funny issues. This is the last one:

Plague Of The Hybrids! :

"This unholy union should never have taken place to begin with," comments Sophie Cohen, an angry farmer. "The shark was never meant to mate with a dog! They eat my crops, they attack my livestock and they're breeding so quickly they're swamping the environment!

At the end I decided to save that creatures, because such hybrid of the shark and dog is a huge success and my scientist must be the best on the world, I think ! :)

Sharkdogs? Id pay to see that

I just got walloped with about 30 inches of snow. How's everyone else's weekend?

Its like 60 degrees where I live but mine was great

30 inches - it means about 76 cm if I calculated well ! Very nice, the traffic collapsed I quess ! Here (In Slovakia) was also snowing all Sunday, but the total amount of new snow was much less just about 20-25 cm ...

Is the forum owner aware that [http://users.boardnation.com/~alh] is scheduled for termination?

"This forum has been suspended for non-payment, or it was flagged as being abandoned due to no response from the registered owner.

If you are the owner of this forum, or if you are a member interested in taking ownership of this forum, please email Boardnation Support at support@boardnation.com

If this forum is not claimed by 2/17/2013, it will be permanently removed."

I claim this region for the His Majesty the Autocrat of Vuzghulia:

Ruler of the Four Corners of the Earth, Overlord of the Multitudes, Defender of the True Faith, Protector of the Weak from the Evil Strong, Upholder of the Vuzghulian Ancestral Traditions, the Khan of Khans, Lord over Lesser Princes and Emperors, Ruler by Divine Right,

Michael I of Vuzghulia

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I present to you your very first decree of His Majesty Michael I, Autocrat of Vuzghulia by the grace of God.

You must treat all paper from the Autocrat with the proper reverence, which means that you must prostrate yourself before the paper and remain silent while it is being read to you.

I now present the decree:

HENCEFORTH the lands of A Liberal Haven shall no longer be a refuge for anyone with deviant viewpoints such as Liberalism, nor will such disruptive innovations such as "tolerance" be tolerated.

In the recent past, concepts such as "Social Justice" have been perverted by a sinister cabal of Innovators who are responsible for many deaths in this world. Social Justice has been called a situation where wealth is redistributed, but this is nonsense. Wealth only needs to be redistributed in a Godless Market Economy, where wealth occurs not where God put it but where greedy unbelievers have grasped it with their filthy money-grubbing parasitism. However, in the God-given Natural economy where all men are kept in their place by noble institutions of Serfdom and Slavery, no redistribution need occur.

Not only have these unbelieving parasites moved your nations away from God's own choice of economic model, they have also introduced nonsense concepts such as Democracy and Non-violent solutions. Both of these ideas are inherently ridiculous and disastrous when applied to the real world. The true path to which you must return, the path of your ancestors, is to crucify all criminals. We no longer need expensive and lawyer-filled court systems, because the Truth can be quickly found through trial by combat, or through waterboarding and mutilation of the accused if there is inequality between the two parties at trial.

THEREFORE:

All who live here shall revere God in accordance with the True Religion. All who have deviant views shall be given to those who hold true to the ways of their ancestors to do with as they please. All men who live in this region shall be obliged to pay an annual tribute of 10% of their income, as well as a tithe of 10% of their income for the One True Church.

All nations shall behave thus. All who submit to this shall be spared. All who resist shall have their women and children sold into slavery and shall have molten lead poured into all of their orifices, except for the leaders of the nation, who shall be impaled upon a stake so that they may witness the suffering of their people from an elevated location.

Thus is my will and the will of God!

I urge you to surrender quickly. Your degenerate democratic systems cannot stand up to the might of a great ruler who rules by the grace of God with absolute power over his subjects. It is in your own best interests to be saved from your erroneous ways, and you can only do that by surrendering!

I shall allow you time to discuss this among yourselves. However, I shall return sometime within the next day to receive Earth and Water as tokens of submission, or a declaration of war if you intend to take the foolish path of resistance (but you might as well just fall upon your sharpest blades, it would save you time and pain in the long run). Think carefully, and make wise decisions!

He is not a Godzilla, he is just a Cockroach.

I am neither a japanese monster nor a disgusting insect, but rather the revealer of the correct path. If you do not have it in your laws that women are property and that the nation is ruled by an absolute power given by god and that alcohol may only be drank when under a roof so that God may not see your shameful drunkenness, then your entire nation is degenerate and will fall like a second France at the first shove.

It is the law of God that weak nations pay tribute to strong nations. You should obey the will of God.

For example, have you considered the destructive implications of a liberal policy when it comes to nudity? Undoubtedly, there are many fat people among your degenerate populations; letting such fat people reveal their bodies would result in mass panic and the collapse of all pretenses of "civilization" which even such innovative peoples as yourselves can maintain.

Do you really want to go down in history as someone who was for the fat people and the collapse of civilization?

learn from history vuzighoola - La France a perdu une bataille! Mais la France n’a pas perdu la guerre!

France would have lost the war if it had not been for the USA and the USSR, which are hardly examples of degenerate liberal entities.

Women are property? And fat people are the end of civilization? This guy has completely lost it

No, I have not lost it, in fact I have found it. I am not making this up, it is the truth, directly from God himself.

I am in fact curious, how do you maintain your rule if your people do not believe that God wants you to rule? This whole region must be an anarchy where everything is possible for one with money.

Also, this region should impose a head-tax on the morbidly obese. This would encourage them to lose weight and provide revenue. It is an idea of such enlightenment that it is a miracle that it was left out of religious texts!

Do you mind posting your nonsense elsewhere. I support your right to believe whatever you want to believe but please don't shove it down our throats. Thank you

Then you will have to face a giant army to exterminate your whole national government! Do you believe that you liberals can stand up to my firepower? Do not delude yourself, surrender to my new order, that way at least you can be court jesters to entertain people with your liberal ideas, and you will be able to eat leftovers after the royal dogs are done with them.

Are you just messing around or are you completely serious?

Just messing around. There is nothing serious about torturing POWs, it is hilarious.

Oooooh...haha. had me confused their for a minute

*sigh* forums will be either saved or moved to a new forum. Thanks for the heads up, I have not had admin power and the one with the power CTE'd years ago. ALH is free to whomever wants to be here (including "Godzilla") - but cannot be claimed by any one nation or outside influence, including myself. Any yes Tropicanas, usually we get hit hard out here in New England, but not this late in the season. Also we've had it pretty mild the past couple of years - and we're getting more snow on Friday! I've never been to Slovakia in the winter (I've been a couple of times, I'm Austrian by descent so Vienna is just around the corner) but the mountains are BEAUTIFUL in the Spring/Summer so I can only imagine how beautiful it must be when they're covered in snow!

I live in the southern part of america so...snow is practically unheard out here. Only snow we ever get is a little flurry and then it all goes away by the next day and then its like 70 degrees 2 days later!

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Vuzghulia: Cockroach - is a metaphor for to be small but nuissance (or trying ... or "machacon" or "algo que me molesta bastante" in spanish). Sorry, but I think this nicely describe what You are doing here.

OK You started some discussion later, but I just ranked You according the first three letters. Discussion about a future of Western civilization is a hard issue, and I prefer just abstain from that here in the game (either seriously of just for fun ...).

so...how we all doin

I want there to be a piece of "Harlem Shake"-related legislation so I can ban it.

harlem shake was hilarious..i just learned about it a few days ago and already my school football team did it, and theirs about a million videos on youtube. kinda blew up fast but its going to die down after a few weeks just like everything else and were going to move on to something else really stupid

yea and the ROK Airforce parody on "Les miserarbles" is spreading but soon forgotten well anything to keep the people happy and stupid ;)

what is "les miserables"?

book, film, musical - if you are curious Curiosityness try google ;) Cheers Snoop

Derk - if we're banning Harlem Shake we might as well ban Gangnam Style as well!

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