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Region: A Liberal Haven
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Si_vis_pacem,_para_bellum
"Like as a wise man in times of peace prepares for war." - Horace.
Just my two cents.
Garchylandians contract their armed services out to the private industry - one of the very few capitalist things to happen in Garchyland!
Sorry all for being unresponsive/slow to respond in the last week - I just purchased my first home IRL, and with it has gone most of my time (moving, fixing, painting) at least for another week or so. I also appear to have accidentally suppressed a post (using mobile), but I unsuppressed immediately - just wanted to explain why it happened! Normalcy should resume soon on my end.
The Utopia Of United States
Most Pacifist Number 4,138th, too large to conquer or mess with (9.027 billion) and 1,704th most Rebellious Youth who won't put up with any bull from anybody... lol
The Utopia Of United States, Hocolesqua
It isn't the waste, it's the undue influence a standing army can exert on the nation, especially if there is a remove between the people and the soldiery. Our motto is, "a rifle behind every blade of grass", so our nation mobilizes only under immediate threat, but the people must keep arms and train universally for their duty to resist.
Maineiacs is pacifist, and indeed trends toward isolationism, and our foreign policy (such as it exists at all) can be summed up as "offend none, so that none wish to offend". Nontheless, we maintain a well-equipped, high-tech defense force highlighted by our well-nigh-unbeatable super weapon, the I.G.N.O.R.E. cannon.
The Utopia Of United States, Hocolesqua
That brought out the one modern weapon we do maintain. ..our Air Cavalry Division of advanced ROFLcopters
Greetings A Liberal Haven! The next issue of Hell's Bells is hot of the demonic presses!
Issue XIX. The Seventh Son; http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=684352
Hope you guys enjoy!
Garchyland
Biggest threat to security of FBP is terrorism, global and local so we have fairly small but highly trained antiterrorist police force and army. Also we prefer to fight radicalisation through our substantial education.
The Utopia Of United States, Hocolesqua
Here's a poll from the region I founded I thought it would be cool for you guys to answer, it asks for the most common religion/lack of religion in your nation: http://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=67941
Feel free to explain further in the RMB.
Garchyland
Eyana is one of the "other" votes. We poll very low on the religious scale and we poll in the top 24% for atheism. So Eyana has decided, through a collective poll on the government website and based on those who responded, that Eyana practices Apatheism. (Sidenote - The President was writing this answer and googled atheism apathy and discovered apatheism which fit the nation's quandary perfectly.)
The Utopia Of United States
In FBP we have about same percentage of atheist, nonbelievers and theists. Religious folk of FBP practice variety of politheistic religions, they are somewhat similar but there are regional differences in all of seven principalitys.
The Utopia Of United States
Of course, being liberal and secular state there is no official religion of FBP, but government of each of principalitys can chose up to two religious holidays. They can't officially participate in religious traditions and rituals of course. Today they are more part of folklore than ready religious holiday
The Utopia Of United States
We are a secular nation and accept all religions, cults and respect their beliefs and holidays but our main holiday which we all celebrate is Yak Yak Yak, which is also called Dim Wit Day and it's always held on the winter solstice.
Boreal Principalitys, The Utopia Of United States
A new poll has been posted - it's about apples! Feel free to comment here with your selection.
I must admit, my choice was a tough one. As a native New Englander I consider myself lucky to have a large variety of local apples available to me. My two favorites are nearly tied, Honeycrisp and Cortland. As a matter of fact, one of our local state universities cultivates/studies apples, and has an orchard of their own where they experiment with their own hybrids (Cold Spring Orchard, Belchertown, MA).
The Utopia Of United States
I'm from North Carolina and and we have a good variety of apples to choose from. Although they all taste good I like Granny Smith apples the best, their sour but refreshing taste is delectable.
Garchyland, The Utopia Of United States
I also greatly enjoy winesap apples, which are also tart and crunchy, like a Granny Smith.
Garchyland
Red delicious for me. Also my family owns small orchard (with greatest name ever - Dragonwood :D) and there we have some semi wild and autochthonous sorts.
Garchyland, The Utopia Of United States
It's time for a new poll, Garchy.
Garchyland
A new poll about Halloween has been posted :)
The Utopia Of United States
Greetings from Forest! The last few years I've been able to celebrate Halloween with some math nerds who take their Halloween costume contest very...humorously. :)
But my favorite thing about October is baseball playoffs!!
Garchyland, The Utopia Of United States
I picked "cooler temperatures". This may be surprising as I live in Scotland so our "cool" is definitely very cool indeed. It's a good break from summer heat though, which generally strikes in the first week back at school, causing heat-related stress for all involved. Scots really aren't evolved to deal with temperatures above 18 degrees Celsius.
Boreal Principalitys, Garchyland
Well, we don't really celebrate Halloween, but I think the coolest thing about this time of the year is the charming autumn scenery. Yellow-brown foliage, a sky covered with dark clouds...it's like a fairy tale, sometimes the scenes really feel otherworldly.
As I am not a huge fan of summer heat, I am also happy that temperatures fall down in the autumn, and I think I would also be excited about dressing up for a Halloween party, if I ever attended one.
But I had to choose one option, and I chose scenery :))
Garchyland
I chose decorating/carving, mostly because when the trees turn here they look dead and it gets really cold way too quick!
Garchyland
The best thing about October is Black Oaktober, the annual month-long celebration of the music of Black Oak Arkansas
Garchyland
The weather for Halloween can be quite variable in SC. Sure, it's cooler than July, but it can range from roasting to chilly. I would say on average that it's moderately warm--you can probably go around in shorts and a t-shirt at least during the day, but often enough at night, too. So big, bulky, latexy, HOT costumes are usually uncomfortable to wear unless you're completely staying inside a well-A/Ced house and not moving around much (maybe just answering the door for trick-or-treaters).
The husband unit is going to be out of town for Halloween on a business trip and both of us are on strict diets (between us, we've lost about 125#), so it would be good not to have candy around, particularly since I adore Reese's Peanut Butter Cups! I' not sure yet if I will turn all the lights off and watch scary movies or if I will dress up and go out to a party.
Garchyland
There is no celebration of Halloween where I live but I voted for scenery. I love autumn even here in city of million + pop. It doesn't have all of the beauty of scenery and autumn colors are a little sparse but I still enjoy it.
Finally, there is no heat and I can wear clothes with enough pockets :)
Garchyland, The Utopia Of United States
I'm in New England, so Halloween and Autumn scenery (leaf foliage) are a big part of our culture. Salem is less than 90 minutes away from me, and right around now are when the "leaf peepers" as we call our seasonal tourists start to show up!
The Utopia Of United States
Unfortunately, it's been very dry up here, so our "leaf season" isn't shaping up to be so good.
Garchyland
Same down here - I think they are going from yellow to brown in just a short few days!
The Utopia Of United States
We have friends in the region of Social Liberal Union that have been raided - I would offer assistance, except our resources are small. We also have been practicing basic isolationism, during our last invasion our allies were unable to allocate any resources to come to our need - with so many invasions in this current time it seems like ever region is, unfortunately, dealing with things on their own.
Will we be offering refuge to those fleeing the invaders?
Good news as a native of the SLU! Our regional founder was found by some longtime members and he kicked out the invaders!
Garchyland, Havatoke Islands, Hocolesqua
Of course. If any actions require refuge (they will be able to see this message) they can send me a telegram for the password.
Our good friend Sheila Anteres (one of the longest going residents in A Liberal Haven) has CTE'd...they have been residing in Philosophy 115 since the raid a few months ago, but I have reached out to them on another online platform and hopefully they will be back with us ASAP. Until then, RIP Sheila.
The Utopia Of United States
Fellow residents, I've come up with a (temporary) plan for ensuring we can still allow interested nations to join our ranks while also protecting ourselves from invasion (retaining our password). Many regions use something called a "feeder region", which is essentially a region that is tied to the main region and used to allow incoming nations to "prove" their intentions by residing in the feeder region for a short time. While not foolproof, many nations who are solely interested in raiding will not maintain the level of activity on their nation than a normal play would (usually a raider is using multiple nations, or "puppet nations"). After a few months, if the interested nation appears to be a constructive player, they are allowed to enter the main region. We've had a request from a nation by the name of Vordigby. I've sent them to our feeder region (Alh) and will monitor their activity before allowing them entrance into A Liberal Haven. Does this sound like a feasible idea to everyone? I would hate to see our population remain stagnant, especially when I have strived for many years to keep an open border policy - our motto is, after all, We welcome all nations regardless of background" - at the same time, I cannot bear to see another raid.
Boreal Principalitys, Eyana, Havatoke Islands
It's worth trying. I certainly don't have a better alternative.
Garchyland, The Utopia Of United States
Seems all right to me. How long will nations wait in "feeder region"?
That's something we have to decide, although we may not want to have a specific timetable, otherwise determined raider nations will remain active until that point. We could have a set timetable, but I wouldn't let the nations in question know this. Perhaps a few weeks or months? My original thought was 1-2 months.
Boreal Principalitys
The embassy is back online again, great. Have some cookies (::)
Boreal Principalitys, Garchyland, The Utopia Of United States
Woooo!
Nice to have the embassy back with you, guys :)
Boreal Principalitys, Garchyland, The Utopia Of United States
That sounds a little to long. I'm afraid if they have to wait to long they will lose interest.
The Utopia Of United States
Here's another one of the polls I do for my region, it's about your nation's most common language: https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=71853
Feel free to discuss here!
Garchyland
Are you all ready for the annual zombie apocalypse? More info available here. [B]REMEMBER:[/B] As a region we will research a cure, and then you can fire "cure missiles" at other infected nations. The more active we are the better chance we have at surviving! For those new (or just those who want to see more info) check this out: https://www.nationstates.net/page=news
Maineiacs, The Utopia Of United States
Last year was an unmitigated disaster, but with the password protection, it should be easier for us to keep a lid on things this year.
Garchyland
I think we will have to be better organized this time around - apparently the zombies will be able to freely travel through regions much easier than in past years, so the password protection may not help.
Time is running out - start researching a cure and then sending cure missiles! We will do better than last year this way :)
The Utopia Of United States
Maineiacs has successfully developed a cure! Missiles being launched starting now!
Garchyland, The Utopia Of United States
I can't stem the tide all by myself. Let's get to it, everyone!
Garchyland
Awesome! Garchyland is still working on it, but will begin sending missiles as soon as we can!
Is everyone researching a cure? Please do not accept/welcome the zombies, as that will ruin the progress our region is trying to make - as other regions do this we may do the same, but those who are accepting to zombies may be ejected from the region until the invasion is over.
I cleaned up Madolonihe's outbreak earlier. Trying to fix it alone for a larger nation is too much with the sort of weapons I have.
Thank you!! Unfortunately, with so many inactive nations in our region we are almost done for - our level of dead is nearly at the level of our entire population, making curing not possible anymore. Next year we should elect a Z-day minister, someone who can lead the charge similar to what they are doing in Social Liberal Union and Forest!
Well - we made the World news at least - throughout the whole site we are in the top 100 (#96) for "Most Infected" in our region this year...not something to be "proud" of usually, but what the heck - congrats everyone!
With so many people in this region who don't care, I doubt even that will work.
BTW, how are there any dead at all, much less this many? No one's killing people or zombies, and the virus isn't technically "fatal".
I'm not sure how it technically works, but in the last few years it seems the longer nations go without "curing" their population the more likely it is to result in death (maybe the zombies killing the healthy instead of infecting?)
We are now #98 in the Word for Most Dead and #93 for Most Infected - still being updated! https://www.nationstates.net/page=zday_tally#dtotal
Anyone have a spare cure missile?
I'm looking for people to cure. Anyone out there need help?
I could use some help (thanks for the missiles you already sent over!) Only issue is that after a nation is hit by a missile it has a cool down of 2 minutes (instead of 20 seconds) - makes it tough to team up!
I need to go to bed anyway - late where I am :)
Huh, the latest Census Report. Either my Arms Manufacturing sector seems to have blown up somehow or this region frowns upon merchants of death in general.
Welcome [nation=short]VorDigby[/nation]!
Garchyland
Thanks!
The Utopia Of United States
Hello everyone,
We are a new ambassador to A Liberal Haven from Forest. (Unfortunately the password on our old nation, Solomons Seal, was forgotten).
If there is anything we should be aware of, please let us know. Currently, we are residing in your safe area Alh, but if that's not the right place or we're allowed to enter here, please tell!
With fern fronds from Forest, the [nation=short]Coast Douglas-Fir[/nation]s and new Forestian Foreign Minister [nation=short]Mount Seymour[/nation]
Garchyland, The Utopia Of United States
Hello dear residents of A Liberal Haven,
The annual photo contest of Forest has officially started! As was the case last year, the contest is open to our region as well as to our embassy regions. We would be happy if we received photo submissions from your region as well:))
For details see https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=721522
Happy photo-hunting!
Garchyland
Welcome, Coast Douglas-Fir!
The Utopia Of United States, Coast Douglas-Fir
Are we going to have a formation of regional government/elections soon?
Coast Douglas-Fir
Post self-deleted by Bananaistan.
Ah crud, apologies for the deleted post above. Copying and pasting without adequate review :(
Comrades, greetings from the DSA. This message is on my own behalf only and not on behalf of the government of the DSA.
The GA resolution "Rights Of The Quarantined" will shortly be at vote. I politely ask you to consider voting against as the proposing nation is a resident in one of the four regions which seek to increase the anti-democratic power of superdelegates by preventing aspiring authors from campaigning for their proposals.
(See their self styled "World Assembly Accord on Campaign Spam" [URL=https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=394445]here[/url].)
This sordid deal seeks to force authors to beg, bow and scrape at the feet of the superdelegates and actively punishes those who do not and choose to directly communicate with the voters by stacking against their proposals. I urge all fellow democrats, liberals and socialists to oppose this attack on free speech and democracy.
Greetings A Liberal Haven! The next issue of Hell's Bells is hot of the demonic presses!
Issue XX: When You're Evil; https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=732823
NS forum thread; https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=331170&p=30550392#p30550392
Hope you guys enjoy!
Garchyland
Hello A Liberal Haven,
Greetings from Forest! If you have not done so already, we trees encourage you to vote [B]AGAINST[/B] the current Security Council Proposal, Repeal "Liberate Eternal Scholars".
This repeal was originally meant to allow the natives of the region of Eternal Scholars to regain control of their home. However, the region was recently invaded by raiders, and now, if the resolution passes, it will enable the raiders to set a password and destroy the region. Although it originally had good intentions, this resolution would now end up helping the raiders.
The tide is already turning as more and more people realise and change their vote. We encourage, specifically your delegate but also all WA members, to also vote against in hopes that Eternal Scholars can become free.
With fern fronds from Forest,
The [nation=short]Coast Douglas-Fir[/nation]s and Forestian Foreign Minister [nation=short]Mount Seymour[/nation]
Garchyland, The Utopia Of United States
Hail A Liberal Haven! The next issue of Hell's Bells is hot off the demonic presses!
A special end of the year issue featuring interviews with Caelapes and Lord Ravenclaw!
Along with the first chapter of the Gospel of The Stalker, creation of a new NS religion, NationStatesism.
Issue XXI: Blackstar; https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=744415
Forum thread; https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=331170
Hope you guys enjoy! Happy Holidays!
Garchyland
Hail A Liberal Haven! The next issue of Hell's Bells is hot off the demonic presses! Featuring an interview with Drugged Monkeys!
Issue XXII: Apeman; https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=755792
Hope you guys enjoy!
Garchyland
We at ASXS are of the opinion that a region is not a region unless there is some form of open discourse, conversation and civility among it's nations (It's been very quiet here for over 24 days). So, I hope these words do not fall on deaf ears, but rather they spark and generate some conversation (of any kind here). As a starting point I am wondering why we went from over 100 nations to 41? Personally I would like our number of nations to increase. I would also like to know what other nations think are the pros and cons of trying to increase our numbers. Plus if agreed to increase our numbers, WTF do we do??
I am The Utopia of United States, and I totally agree with you. I'd like to move that nation back here if yo'd become more active. Perhaps [nation=short]Garchyland[/nation] could make a poll about moving to a new region with a founder so we can start recruiting new members?
I think you've hit the nail on the head - the problem in getting more nations (no password, active recruiting) is that we don't have a Founder which puts us at risk of invasion. I think the best bet is to refound this region with its exact name, with me as the Founder (and then elections for WA nation) - then we can start actively recruiting!
We really do need to get moving with that.
I personally like that idea too, we should do it, but only if the other 38 apathetic nations agree with it.....it's been two days since I posted and I can't believe just you two, Garchy and Maineiacs were the only ones to comment out of 41 nations. I remember in the not too distant past there was more involvement and discussions on any topic, but now seems everyone just answers 5 questions and then go back into they're own little world...I really don't expect everyone to be actively involved in this region but at least more than three nations??
Oh I get it everyone is waiting to see what Trump does next!! lol
Seriously any other opinions, comments, ideas or thoughts on the matter?? Anyone? Am I asking too much? It would be nice to hear from other nations...
I'm pretty much logging in every morning to answer the issues - it took me ages to even notice that people had been holding discussions on here. This is the most active this region has been since you let me in! I do approve of refounding the region. It would mean we could recruit more active people - I just don't think most people want to sit for a month in a feeder region.
The Utopia Of United States
I agree that refounding the nation is the best route. Our current system does not attract new nations, and the lack of activity in the region is driving away current members.
The Utopia Of United States
Wow! I've been playing consistently for two years and it seems like it's been forever.
Hello all! The Rogue Nation of Colfax Point has been in this region for the majority of its brief existence. Myself and the rest of the nation's 580 million citizens are still working on gaining an understanding of how this world works. Currently we struggle enough just to maintain existence, but we do strive to make more of an impact within the region and will be willing participants in whatever is decided regarding refounding the region or not.
Speaking of still trying to gain an understanding on how the world works...I believe that the last I saw, I needed 500 million citizens to name a capital city. Now it says "Unlockable: Awaiting Legislation" where I assumed a blank would be for me to fill it in. Am I overlooking something?
At the risk of sounding immodest, my nation will be 12 in May.
Garchyland
There is a place to enter your capital city's name. It's in settings.
Hail A Liberal Haven! The next issue of Hell's Bells is hot off the demonic presses! Happy Valentine's Day from the pit of despair!
Issue XXIII: I Can't Decide; https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=771246
Forum thread; https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=331170
Hope you guys enjoy!
Garchyland
I don't want to lose momentum on us talking about how we can refound or otherwise open our borders. Does anyone else have any suggestions or ideas? Even if you've never posted here before we would love to hear from you :)
I think we should make Alh our main region, and we can save this region to preserve its history. Another option is to keep this region for its history snd merge with another like-minded region. For example, there is Democratic Socialist Federation, a region with similar values, an active forum, and a large number of WA members for its small size (the fact that we have some non-socialists here is the main drawback of merging in my mind).
I, for one, would seriously consider relocating if socialism were to become a driving ideology for the region.
The Utopia Of United States
I don't want to drive down the average pacifism rate there.
St. Tom will move if it's welcome.
I believe a region is not a well rounded region without the representation of all nations, whether communist, left leaning, liberal, middle of the road, conservative, right wing or dictatorship governments, similar to the WA.
It is open dialogue and discourse with differing views, principles and opinions and with the inherent acceptance of diversity, tolerance, understanding, civility and above all respect for all human rights and forms of government, that discourse, exchange of ideas and philosophies can take place peacefully without personal confrontation or insults...this would be monitored by an elected board or council to supervise, protect the rights of all, and to maintain civility in discussions. After all isn't being a Liberal region, all encompassing, being accepting and not judgemental??
I am of the opinion that inviting all forms of nations from all regions with differing forms governments, would result in more entertainment and activity on the RMB :)
If every nation in A Liberal Haven recruited at least one new nation from another region to join our region we would more than double our size -- strength in numbers??
Needless to say if other regions become one with us we'll be even more powerful...Any comments?
The Utopia Of United States
I don't think one nation would have that much influence on the pacifism rate. :) Besides, I think it's funny when the rankings are all ridiculously harmonious... but then there's the odd one out.
I'm ready to move wherever, though I might prefer ALH. (I wasn't aware that it had already been founded? What are we waiting for, then?)
The Utopia Of United States
I have always resisted the idea of merging our region with another. This has nothing to do with the other regions, but has to do with our sovereignty - we are one of the oldest regions in NS and I would hate to see us go the way of the Dodo. Our main issue is that we cannot stay here in its present form and open our region to recruitment (due to not having a founder) - I think our best bet is to move everyone to Alh (in an orderly fashion), and keep this region (closed) for historical purposes (as Utopia has suggested above). One of my personal nations has already founded ALH (and won't be going anywhere), and then we could hold open elections for the WA.
The Utopia Of United States
That's probably best. Any opinion on the time table?
The Utopia Of United States
By the consensus here I think this is the best plan, and will fully support it.
In a week possibly? Someone's puppet would have to stay here to preserve this region as well.
I totally agree with this. The region I've founded myself accepts nations of all political leanings, and the role-plays we do there benefit from this fact. We've also had some good ideological debates.
The only thing I don't like about the Social Liberal Union, which has been the region I have been the most active in for a long time, is the "fair but firm" policy, which makes at least "average" CR's and PF's a retirement to reside in the region. This seems like a good idea on the surface, but it has made liberals who hold conservative points because of their religion and liberals who are slightly authoritarian leave the region, when they could have been valuable and civil members.
I'd also be willing to help in recruitment when we move to ALH.
Xandia Swift
I support the move to ALH (I was also unaware of the existence of this region). I also support the inclusion of all types of governments. Debates are much more interesting when people don't agree with you.
Xandia Swift, The Utopia Of United States
We will have to make this a campaign - to ensure everyone is notified in a timely fashion, and given ample time to move - as we know, many of our nations are not very active, and may not even check this board. We should send out multiple telegrams informing nations of the move - I can help coordinate the task of notifying, but could use help. I'm able to give people mass telegram sending capabilities through the admin area here (as WA Delegate), does anyone feel up for the task?
I also think it's time to set up an outside forum again (it's been years!) This helps make debates, forums, and multiple conversations much easier for everyone to have. Maybe a ProBoards, which I believe SLU uses?
Xandia Swift, The Utopia Of United States, Colfax Point
From what I've read above I agree with it all and strongly support the plan, sounds like a good plan :), was wondering how the moving order (in the sense of who moves first, second...etc.) would be established... Also that it might be a good idea to send (2 or 3) telegrams (including individual move date?) to all the nations in A Liberal Haven to inform all nations of the plan so the transition/relocation can occur smoothly?
I'm already looking forward to the move to form a greater, stronger, diverse region in ALH
I would like to volunteer in assisting with this process in whichever way I can (as long as it is not excessively time consuming :) to ensure it's success....
The Utopia Of United States
I'll move whenever you need me to.
The Utopia Of United States
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