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Region: A Liberal Haven
The WA resolutions can effect your civil rights, political freedoms, or even economic power. If you violate laws, you could get condemned, which is like being branded sort of. I don't know enough about them to know if they can kick you out. I do know that in most slave organizations you must resign from the WA in order to even be considered as a member.
Of course, this only applies if you're a member.
The only reason you will be ejected from the WA is if they find out that you have multiple nations under your control as WA members.
I move that our delegate, Garchyland, accept constructing embassies with Hippiedom, Antidictatorship League, Lunch Table Nations, and Woodstock. I will explain why below.
1.) Hippiedom is on rather good terms with Philosophy 115 and has been for quite a while. It only makes sense to show them hospitality.
2.) Antidictatorship League seems to be an up-and-coming region with an idea of what it is looking for. Why not give them a little kick to help?
3.) Lunch Table Nations seems to be the best of these for regions. They seem to be strong believers in tolerance. I find that to be very intelligent and similar to our own believes.
4.) Woodstock has made itself out to be rather peaceful. It doesn't seem like a bad region to be associated with.
@ Alevuss
Nmorodia is not a slaver, we just have our monetary system. Our female protection laws are the strictest they have been in centuries, and the enforcement is better funded and staffed than ever.
If the WA does not like such things then they are radicals who cannot be satisfied in any way. I do not think I will join.
Breaking news: Osama bin Laden is confirmed dead.
2012 assured.
Thanks for the congratulations on delegate, Alevuss and Sheila! Any seconds for the construction of embassies that Alevuss is voting for?
I second all embassy proposals.
I actually expected news about Anon hacking/trying to hack Iran, but I guess I'll never know. Don't get me wrong, It's good that he's dead (No offense to supporters of him here on NS [No offense to any against him with that statement]), since he killed so many people, I'll agree that justice was served. I still don't think that anything good will come of the jubilation resulting from his death. I also don't feel that much else good will come from his burial at sea. Yes, I understand the reasons for it, but I think it's still pretty clear that this is not the last we have heard from Al-Qaeda and Afghanistan is far from over. Of course, though, this is probably obvious to nearly all NSers.
I suppose I deserve to have this rubbed in my face and be laughed at. I was saying just a couple weeks ago that the search was a waste of time.
Not that it is needed, but I also agree with the embassy proposals
Nice. Now we have three approvals, so, we can accept them. Finally, something to end 2 days of inactivity.
I'm doing some research on the regions who have proposed. I believe we should have a waiting period before any acceptance. I'll be accepting them soon, after work I suppose!
Whoa! Congratulations Sheila for being 26th most eco-friendly! *clap*
Hey guys :)
Welcome, Neckbears. Seems we've been a little inactive for a few days. Usually, we're much more lively than this...
So, any opinions on the IMF chief's scandal? Will it ruin any of the debt restructuring going on with Greece or Iberia, or is it just another political scandal? The people or France seem pretty upset, mostly by the allegations, not so much the international repercussions.
I have yet to even hear of this scandal. Didn't get a chance to hear any international news today and probably won't for quite a while.
hi there! So how is this region?
Pretty good. We've been planning our elections for the past few weeks, so, there hasn't been as much activity as we would like there to. Once that's sorted out, we'll be up and running again in no time.
Sweet! I have the lowest crime rate in the region! :D
I have agreed to construct embassies with the Global Defense Force as a matter of security. I have chosen to do it earlier than later, however if anyone has any objections I am all ears to them, and if a vote of veto is reached I will do my duty and cancel construction. We also have an embassy request from the Socialist Commonwealth. Any seconds or thirds? Or any input on the GDF?
How you guys doing
I support the formation of embassies with them. We should also make embassies with 10000 Islands.
@Liberlious Great to have you back! :) (You did leave, right?)
I agree with making embassies with 10000 Islands.
And thank you Alevuss, I did indeed leave for New York :D
Anything significant happen while I was departed?
Nations of A Liberal Haven,
Please be wary of endorsing streams of incoming nations, even as a gesture of goodwill. Some endorsements are getting close with some of our new nations!
Thanks,
Garchyland
TBH Member 3
TBH Member 9!
GB, is Leo coming here today?
Yeah I think. Got a TG.
It seems that our new members are quite clueless about conducting raids. Don't mind them.
As for you two, sign up on the forums to join the military and lessen your incompetence.
Well, that was exciting. And a close shave, apparently. Glad that incompetence seems to be part and parcel to world domination.
Garchy, I'd support password protecting for a little while if you felt it would add some protection while tensions are still high.
I've been talking closely with our allies, and have figured out who the potential invaders are in this region. Password protecting for a short time would be a good idea, maybe a week or so. Since we can't be sure who every invader is I would have to hide the password from residents. It would be for a limited time, and if known long term residents contact me through TG I can provide them with the password. I do ask, however, that all longterm nations stay in ALH to keep our numbers high and avoid confusion with reentry.
Thanks everyone!
Serve the Black Hawks!
No thanks, so talking to all the non-crazy, immature, strange, people; How is every one doing?
I was reading this and I found it interesting;
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1019-24.htm
It really made me think :) read it!
Great article! Its true, I think anyways.
Americlous... you forget. There's Jesus, and the there's Republican Jesus http://bit.ly/JjWm0
I liked that article, too. I'm a big fan of rants against things that I see as obvious (hypocrisy of being anti-abortion but alright with wars and the military), especially when they're well written and explicated. I wish it wasn't so easy for people in this country to discount everything they don't agree with in the media, but believe wholeheartedly the things they want to hear without even thinking of questioning whether or not it's actually true.
I feel like it's been a bit too long since a new topic has been brought up. Anyone hear of Weiner's resignation?
Yes. I'm not really sure if he should resign. I don't know anything about him before the recent events with him.
And June 14th was an awesome day for music! Owl City, Black Veil Brides', and Christina Grimmie's albums are amazing!
But I would really appreciate it if there was someone in the region who could give me some background info on Weiner. (Such a fitting name. I would've loved this if it was the current Speaker of House who did this. XD)
The hypocrisy on the Anthony Weiner situation was beyond laughable. Here's something I posted on the Sarah Palin facebook page. It was deleted -of course-, and I was banned. Because they "love freedom" you see.
Conservatives elected a boyf**ker to Congress, and they defended him, until the public's outrage was so intense even they had to give in (Mark Foley R-FL)
Conservatives looked the other way when a Governor, just blew off work and went to Argentina to get laid. (Sanford R-SC)
Conservatives were oh-so-forgiving when a Senator from the bible belt was named as a client of the DC madam. So forgiving in fact, that they re-elected him. ("Diaper Dave" Vitter R-LA)
Conservatives elected another Governor who for 10 years was banging "the help", and had a kid with her. (Ahnold R-CA).
Conservatives had no problem when Ted Haggard (religious hypocrite, self-hating closeted gay man, and meth addict) advised the war criminal from 2001-2006. It's only Rev Wright they had a problem with, because he's "too angry" (read: black).
Conservatives never got worked up over John Ensign, who bribed the husband of the woman he was screwing, and got him a job in DC to keep him quiet.
Conservatives stayed silent when another one of their Christofascist attack dogs from the Catholic League blamed the underage victims (!) of the child rape scandal for "being active participants" http://bit.ly/dXQRF5
But... Conservatives were outraged (!) when a Democrat sent pictures of his penis to an adult female, while having a consensual online conversation with her. Because that was wrong you see."
I got a ukulele (concert) for my birthday. Can't wait to start learning that. :) I just wish I had something to help me tune it better other than videos and a pitch pipe. :(
I agree with Zonniana saying that the Reublicans/Conservatives have defended their own when they attract poor attention, but once other parties do things attracting the same sort of attention, they point their arrows.
I live in New York, and while Weiner wasn't my representative directly, he was from my state. After hearing about this on the news for a few days, and having a lively discussion with my parents (who also live in NY), I think the biggest question to come out of this scandal was not how to deal with non-political distractions of representatives like this, but who should really have the final say. After Weiner finally admitted that he actually sent the sexts, and that it wasn't in fact someone else hacking his twitter account, a poll of the people in his district showed that the majority still wanted him to stay in office. Hypocrisy and immorality aside, if his constituents wanted him to continue representing them, he should have stayed. The biggest reason that he resigned was that his own party built up pressure for him to leave office; Obama suggested he resign, and Pelosi (I think) threatened that if he stayed in office, he would be stripped of all his committee positions.
After this discussion with my rents, we concluded that the major push to get him out was so that the new representative, which Democrats can appoint without a vote by the district members themselves, wanted as much time as possible to get their appointee known and solidified as a candidate for the coming elections. Politically, this makes sense. However, it's not the Democrats' or any other member of Congress' responsibility to decide if Weiner should have stayed in office. Rather, it's legally up to the people he represents.
Thought it was interesting that I didn't hear as much about how his district's populace was gipped out of this decision.
I would like to say Rest in Peace to Crisqothia. While not entirely active on ur boards or in the WA Crisqothis was one of our top 5 eldest nations and will be missed
Oops sorry for the typo! And Americlous too. I don't like this summer trend :(
I not only move that Garchy be asked to vote in opposition to the "Abortion ethics" WA resolution, I outright demand it.
Seconds?
Seconded!
7 nations lost in 13 days. I will definitely miss Crisqothia. And Americlous, though a new nation, seems like they could have made quite an impression on the region.
I have actually found myself less frequently logging into NS. I do still hope that I will be considered as a possible regional delegate, once elections come around at last.
Sorry for being less active then before, how is everyone?
Whaddup Liberal Haven
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Hey Lib.
Nuttin SpreeinJeffRe. Whaddup witchu?
I move that Garchyland should vote in favor of the "Promotion of Intl Education" WA Resolution.
any seconds?
Yes, I second the motion.
I agree, even though necessary. Nice to meet you SpreeinJeffRe :)
What does the region think of the current economic crisis going on in the US? Do you think the Republicans will allow the US to default on itÂ’s debt repayments and cause a worldwide economic meltdown?
Hi Liberal Haven!:D
hello everyone, new to all this, so a little slow at getting involved but ill get up to speed on things soon.
@Greater Margate I can think of a few ways to help the country get out of it. I don't know a whole lot about your latter question, even though I live in the US. What does it mean for the nation to default on it's debt repayments?
@Liberbourg YO, Lib!
@I know what you mean. It's really hard to get involved in the game-only side of this site.
Unless the Republicans in Congress agree to increase the amount that the US can borrow, the government will not be able to pay it's bills and will go bankrupt. This will have a knock on effect throughout the world and may cause a depression. The Republicans and especially the Tea Party are playing political games with the global economy.
I am reborn
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YEAH! second in being liberal
What's most frustrating about this debt politiking is that during the Bush era, the debt ceiling was upped every year with no complaints from either party. And now, the Republicans are trying to use it to take out Obama by drawing the process out and attempting to to pin the entire problem on him and the Democrats. It's so childish it's painful.
RIP Smurth :(
Amen Margate and Laak, Republicans and Tea party alike are just to stubborn.
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Who's Smurth?
The GW Haters of Smurthwaite. Was one of our top 3 largest nations.
Smurthwaite will be missed. Also, looks like Sheila is the oldest nation in the region now.
Also, I move that Garchyland vote in favor of the "Repeal 'Liberate Eastern Europe'" WA Resolution.
BTW, I downloaded Google Chrome this morning. It's amazingly fast, but I don't like how there's nowhere to store your favorites right below the address bar, like in IE and Safari.
What does anyone else have for a web browser or web browsers?
Am I really the 'old grandpa' of the region ... nah, I think Maineiacs is older than I.
And I use Chrome too, for quite sometime too, plus gmail, igoogle, and more, it seems I use alot of Google products. I also have firefox on the side (which I used to use before Chrome) and just got Opera, but don't really use it yet.
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Opera? I think I've only vaguely heard of it. I just found out now that Opera is the web browser that Nintendo Wiis use, but I only know three people who use the Wii's internet, but one of them just recently moved to the PRC, so, I probably won't hear from 'em any time soon. :(
Hey everyone. I just finished reading "A Theory of Justice" by John Rawls and thought I would join this region. Such an inspiring philosophical system. What do you guys think of Rawls?
I've actually never heard of John Rawls. What is A Theory of Justice about?
"A Theory of Justice" is the basic foundation for modern liberal thought. It's quite complex but basically Rawls asserts that nobody has earned the talents they have since they are born with them. Because of this people must put themselves behind a "veil of ignorance" when designing the structure of society. Inside this veil you have no idea whether you'll be rich or poor, smart or mentally handicapped, mediocre or grand. He argues that people inside this veil would choose a society where the worst off are given top priority. This means that all of society should generally be at a level setting, since the worst off will always be "first class" so to speak. He does set out one exception, if someone uses their talents to help the less fortunate(say be a doctor) then they are entitled to the extra money and fame they gain from providing their services. In reality what this translates to is a high progressive tax rate. If you have any questions just ask, it's a complicated system and that was an unsatisfactorily brief summary.
Hello guys!
@Rawls Utopia: Thanks. I will ask again, if I feel need be.
Welcome Thedas and other new nations. :)
hey thedas
What's everyone up to?
If no one minds, can we do a bit of endorsement swapping?
I think I endorsed you 20 hours ago. *Checks your nation page* Yup!
I've been on Youtube most/all of this morning listening to music. I'll be eating lunch now, and either writing an essay on The Old Man and the Sea (I must do that some time today) or posting in 1 or 2 RPs on the forums. Actually, maybe 3.
BTW, what did everyone think of Max's book trailer and book (if anyone's read any of it yet, online or IRL)?
Hey Thedas! Endorsement swapping is fine so long as you are at least 2 endorsements behind the delegate. This ensures safety and security for our region. Please do not take it as an insult if I or other nations withdraw our endorsements, we're simply keeping an eye on how many each nation gets!
Hey, Garchy, any idea of the election date, yet? Or are you and Sheila still planning it out. :(
The process of elections is bound to be a lengthy one.
We need to first take stock of what positions will have incumbents and what positions have voids (holding nations died off).
After that, we'll have to have nominations so that we can organize the field of candidates on either a ballot on the forum or post something here with a list of candidates for each seat from which everyone can make their selections.
Then and only then will we be able to initiate the process of penciling in a span of time over which voting can take place.
It wasn't a quick/easy process last time and I doubt it will be any quicker/easier this go around.
Derk is very correct. I'm working with Sheila Anteres now to figure out how the elections should be run. I'll also be talking to some nations about security measures that can be taken while I'm away for a trip. I'll be leaving in about a week and a half and will be away with limited internet access until early September. My nation will be on vacation mode during that time but I can assert that we have security measures in place that will allow stability with our endorsements even during my leave.
Will do, Garchyland! I'm four behind your currently so we're fine on that matter.
So, is anyone here doing MaxChat, or excited about it, or just don't think your questions will get chosen so you're not doing it?
Hello Liberal Haven! My name is Joker, and I am just letting you all know that while my awesomeness is overwhelming, I must ask you to resist its effects for now, as it may cause mental and bodily harm.
lolwut? Welcome, Joker.
Hello Liberal Haven! I am not an over-confident prick but I must ask you to just put up with that.
O_o?
No offense to Kurosai :p
Vacation moding. See you all in a few weeks. I will be doing a few check ins abroad to make sure everything's stable. See you on the other side!
Ugh! School starts next week and a sizable tree fell across the driveway of one of my family's houses from the hurricane.
Hope everyone else here is okay after Irene, if anyone else here was hit by it. Luckily, my family was only in the 54-74 mph wind area and we got practically no rain.
I'm glad to hear you made it out okay, I feel so bad for all of those who are caught up in Irene.
R.I.P. Liberalious
Welcome, Blaubauen and Enila, to ALH. :)
Yes, I have the largest soda pop sector in the region. Now that is something to be proud of.
Also, I move that, once Garchyland returns from vacation, that he deny making embassies with The Armed Union. After looking at the region's beliefs and relations with other regions, I do not believe they are the sort that would be healthy for A Liberal Haven.
Just got here from the Rejected Realms after being booted from Absolution for some reason. Hopefully Loganstenaria can flourish here.
We hope so. A Liberal Haven is after all for the downtrodden of the earth.
It is? X)
But yes, welcome, Logan. I think I might have heard of Absolution a few times. What brought you to ALH? I don't we have don't have embassies there.
*Sigh* I can't believe school starts tomorrow. I miss my friends, but there's just about no way that I want to go tomorrow, especially after spending almost half of today on the road. :(
Yes going back to school is always depressing, but just think of how awesome acquiring knowledge is, and the things you can do for others with said knowledge.
Do we ever have elections here?
I guess that's a no...
Its not a no, its just that its a slow period right now, and Garchy is away, plus setting up for elections is a lengthy process. When Garchy returns from his vacation, we'll get the ball rolling.
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