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What just happened with all the surpassed posts?

The Utopia Of United States wrote:What just happened with all the surpassed posts?

He was a troll spamming the message board.

The Utopia Of United States

Maineiacs wrote:He was a troll spamming the message board.

That was done by a moderator - I'm a little late to the party, so I missed what was happening. Thanks to Maineiacs for keeping an eye on the situation for our region!

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Tromd

i am bac

I'm afraid to inform you that the region of Gay has also been made a fool of Joseworld and a puppet nation he had created. He has been dealt with by our region standards. I'm no official representative of the region of Gay but I just wished to inform you.

Garchyland

I just wanted to warn you that Joseworld also went by the name Mike Dombrovsky.

9 hours ago: Mike dombrovsky ceased to exist

You currently have 2 more examples of the griefer in your region.

4 hours ago: The Oppressed Peoples of TRoMD arrived from The North Pacific.

4 hours ago: The Sultanate of The Reincarnation of Mike Dombrovsky arrived from The South Pacific

Garchyland

Thanks! Ejected for now - I like to keep the ban list clean, but if this player persists I'll get moderator attention to their IP. Thanks everyone!

Greetings from United Group! Hope all is well with our Liberal Haven neighbors! It's an honour for us to continue having embassy relations with such a longstanding NS region. All the best from UG! :)

Garchyland

Hello, friends! How are you all today? Greetings from Lazarus!

Garchyland, The Utopia Of United States

Loftegen wrote:Hello, friends! How are you all today? Greetings from Lazarus!

Hello! Another sunny day here in A Liberal Haven :)

Nice to meet you guys. I hope this is an active region.

Garchyland, Left-Libertarian Colonies, Xandia Swift, The Utopia Of United States, Equa Lib

I found a short blog post from a leftist view on the Democratic campaign and its media arm:

http://fredrikdeboer.com/2016/02/29/democrats-always-prove-the-commies-right/

”The Democrats said that left-wing critics of the party would be welcomed into the fold; the commies told me that the Democrats hate the left and always would. The commies were right.”

Right… but I'm not making tone arguments here, he has a point. It baffles me how anyone can still think of Hillary as a left-wing candidate.

Garchyland

Dorgam wrote:Nice to meet you guys. I hope this is an active region.

Of course it is... since Equa Lib is a part of it!

Welcome!

The Utopia Of United States

I i do not know a lot of people thinking that Clinton is leftist candidate. To be fair I'm not from USA and people I know that follow US elections are mostly journalists.

She looks form my side as only candidate that is not rabid right-winger and that have possibility to implement her proposals.

The Utopia Of United States

I suppose it depends on your definitions. I have come to the conclusion that Right and Left are of limited use for more than the vaguest of definitions. In American politics it seems to be mostly what the a given politician wants to ban and what they want to permit. Other than that I don't see much of a difference. Certainly nobody represents my interests any more.

Happy Easter!

Garchyland, The Utopia Of United States

HAPPY EASTER

Garchyland, The Utopia Of United States

Yeah, Hillary is right leaning on economics, with her awful trade policies. Also, happy Easter.

Garchyland, The Utopia Of United States

Almost that time of year again ;-)

https://www.nationstates.net/page=news/2016/03/30/index.html

I've thrown my hat in the ring for WA Secretary-General and would be delighted to have your vote :) [B]Vote here! --> http://www.nationstates.net/page=news[/B]

The Utopia Of United States

Hi everyone,

I am running in the current WA Secretary-General race at the top of the page with my other nation Freehand Newworldia on a platform of real change for the world of NationStates! I am running on a platform of trying to stop raiding and trying to improve the economic conditions and civil rights of all WA peoples. You can see more of my plans on my Dispatch "Real change for the world of NationStates".

Votes would be greatly appreciated,

The Utopia of United States

Garchyland

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Garchyland wrote:I've thrown my hat in the ring for WA Secretary-General and would be delighted to have your vote :) [B]Vote here! --> http://www.nationstates.net/page=news[/B]

Good luck!

Garchyland wrote:I've thrown my hat in the ring for WA Secretary-General and would be delighted to have your vote :) [B]Vote here! --> http://www.nationstates.net/page=news[/B]

You've got my vote.

Garchyland

The Utopia Of United States wrote:Good luck!

Voting ends in 50 minutes, but I have 12 vote - won't be enough to move to round 2, but so far this is my favorite Ns April Fool's prank! Will have to find a candidate for round 2 :)

Saint Thomas Sur Mer, The Utopia Of United States

People of a liberal heaven vote for Nordrlond, wealth and democracy for all!

How to vote:

1. Go to - page=election_vote

2. Hit 'View All canidates'

3. Press CTRL+F on your keyboard

4. Type in Nodrlornd

5. Hit the checkbox

Glory to nationstates and its citizens!

We must stop the communist!

To all the allies of the DSA:

From 12 a.m. GTM 7 April to 12 p.m. GTM 11 April we will celebrate the 5th anniversary of our glorious region!

This is an important milestone for us, and we wanted to share the news with you!

Every nation in the DSA is invited to celebrate, but you can also join in (officers that have communications authority can post on our RMB).

Have a great day!

In Solidarity,

William Hardin, delegate for the Ministry of Domestic Affairs in the DSA

and President of Celle Franca

Garchyland

Hi I just moved here

Lubrundum wrote:Hi I just moved here

Welcome!!

The Utopia Of United States

For the first time in its 12 years of existence, Philosophy 115 has hit the 200 member mark!!! I invite you to TG our region to celebrate with us, friends!

Garchyland, The Utopia Of United States

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Hey Liberals, anyone around?

I'm the new Minister of Foreign Affairs from Forest, same office (puppet) new ambassador (player).

Anything going on around here?

Garchyland

I'm still alive. Not sure how alive others are.

Garchyland

Hi! I check daily, and generally when a topic comes up we are a lively region - although we've all been pretty quiet lately

The Utopia Of United States

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Garchyland wrote:Hi! I check daily, and generally when a topic comes up we are a lively region - although we've all been pretty quiet lately

I created a poll in my region about immigration, maybe it can spark some discussion!

Here it is: page=poll/p=58550

Garchyland

Hey, everyone! Just passing through as I cycle my way through the regions of the world!

Garchyland, The Utopia Of United States, Baked America

I don't have a problem talking about myself, although I have not had the experience of repeating updates on my life to different people. You may get people coming up to you to ask you questions or talk to you, but those are all opportunities to network. If you are the least successful, you won't have people coming up to you and you will have to do all the networking. I suppose instead of talking about your accomplishments you can talk about what you have experienced and how you intend to overcome it in the future.

Garchyland

I suppose this question I asked in the poll above really is a thinker - I chose "least successful" in the room, for a similar networking reason as [nation=short]Eyana[/nation] - I believe if you are the least successful among a room of more successful people you will always have the opportunity to network and better your own position, in terms of success. Now, because this is a philosophical question, I can assume that I could be achieving greater and greater success through life, yet always being placed in a room with people who are more successful than me. Thus, by the 10th time I have been placed in a "room" I could be more successful than I was in the first room. Of course this would always limit my psyche somewhat, being the least successful person constantly!

Then we have to ask "what is success"? Are the people in the room more wealthy? More happy than I am? More content in life? So many questions!

They are both valid positions. If you are the most successful person in the room you become more successful by taking advantage of the talents of those you network with. I am thinking of a person who runs a company in this case, because as a leader you have an ability to slot people where you need them, improving the success of your company, and therefore your own success. And I agree, we have to define success. In my argument I am referring to monetary because it is a more tangible type of success. How is happiness even measured? It would have to be subjectively, even then that poses inherent problems.

Garchyland

I'd like to put in my .20 cents (inflation, cost of living:) I also believe both are valid positions and you need to learn from those that are more successful than you, but you can also learn from those who are less successful than you. (For the sake of the discussion I'm measuring success financially) One is only successful (now referring to aptitude) in some areas or several areas of expertise, however some (not successful financially) are experts at some things someone successful (financially) can't do or know. For example janitor in a corporation versus the CEO. Both have their expertise, however the CEO (more successful financially) can still learn about the janitor's job, passion, hobby, political point of view or whatever it may be. There is not a single individual on the planet that has a monopoly on knowledge, talent or aptitude. One learns from those more successful and from those less successful. There's a famous quote by Andrew Carnegie (Steel tycoon) not exactly sure how it goes, (Google failed me lol) "The secret to my success has been surrounding myself with better people than myself" I understand that as meaning people not as successful (money wise) as him but possessing different, varied and better knowledge, aptitudes, expertise and talents than himself. People that worked for him and helped him become successful (financially). I believe every individual has their knowledge and experience which is unique to them and you learn from one another as you communicate.

Just created a new poll, member nation participation is most appreciated!!

The Utopia Of United States

suc·cess

noun

the accomplishment of an aim or purpose.

"the president had some success in restoring confidence"

synonyms: favorable outcome, successfulness, successful result, triumph; Hollywood ending

"the success of the scheme"

the attainment of popularity or profit.

"the success of his play"

synonyms: prosperity, affluence, wealth, riches, opulence

"the trappings of success"

a person or thing that achieves desired aims or attains prosperity.

"I must make a success of my business"

synonyms: triumph, bestseller, blockbuster, sellout.

Just thought I would post the definition of "Success" to aid the conversation.

Why does abolishing eminent domain increase wealth gaps and hurt the poor?

Some of you may find this newsletter article helpful:

COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE ISSUES

For this article, I’m going to be addressing a very specific way of answering issues: I am assuming you are at least an intermediate-level player with a good grasp of the issues; that you already have good Civil Rights and Political Freedoms and want both to go even higher; and that Economy, Economic Freedom, and Freedom from Taxation (i.e., lower taxes), and good environment are of secondary importance to you.

Ever since we were given the information on how our answers impact our nations, I have been dismayed at the large number of issues that have vastly more negative consequences than they do positive ones. In some cases, there are three times or more falling statistics than there are positive ones! If course, not all positives are good to most people, say Primitiveness, and not all negatives are bad, like Tax Rate.

So, over the past several days, I have assembled a list of the issues I’ve encountered that either do the opposite of what they were claiming or have more negative outcomes than positive ones. In some of these, the issue in question lowers Civil Rights or Political Freedoms, even when choosing the nominal high freedom choice.

I am guessing most readers will have one or more additional rankings that they would like to increase, even at the expense of others, say Cultured. Perhaps some of the following issues have overall negative consequences, but also happens to include a rise in Cultured, so you may choose it anyway.

I have deliberately excluded those issues whose primary aim is to lower taxes. Almost by definition, lowering taxes is going to include perhaps some very deep cuts in some areas as well as more modest cuts in other areas, so they will naturally have negative consequences outnumbering the positive ones.

One should take into account the variation of change. If issue XXX raises, say, Civil Rights, by 20% and lowers ten other things by .05%, you would do well to answer that issue, as the benefits vastly outweigh the consequences. Here are my (admittedly subjective) views on percentage change:

Change<1%: trivial

Change=1-5%: can be meaningful, especially in conjunction with an overall trend in the same direction

Change=5-10%: meaningful (especially as you rise in world rankings)

Change=10-100%: WAY significant

Change=100-1,000%: WOW

Change>1,000%: WOW WOW WOW!!!

To date, the highest percentage change I have noticed was 144,000%!

So, without further ado, here is a short list of issues I would dismiss if I were pro-CR, pro-PF, and secondarily pro-Econ, pro-Econ Freedom, pro-environment, and pro-Freedom from Taxation, based on choices that seem to favour high freedoms (I may update this list as I go through more of the issues):

2

5

16 (BOTH)

17 (BUT RAISES PF, EF, AND LOWERS TAX)

19

20

22

27

57

58

59

74

75

75

84

94

101

102

112

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117

145

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156 (BUT VERY GOOD FOR HEALTH & ENVIRONMENT)

175

180 (LOWERS PF & TAX)

183

189 (BUT RAISES PF & LOWERS TAX)

195

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212

237

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249

255

258

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269

274

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347 (CHOOSE #2, NOT #3)

369

379

412

414

417

429

431

440

442

446

448

452

456 (RAISES CR AND LOWERS TAX)

464

493

503

508

515

518

Garchyland, Eyana, The Utopia Of United States

Thank you so much for sharing this, [nation=short]Dr George[/nation]!

So, these are the issues to avoid if you want to keep your nation progressive?

Maineiacs wrote:So, these are the issues to avoid if you want to keep your nation progressive?

More or less, yes. I have noted the ones that do raise CRs and PFs, so you may decide you want to answer them anyway, despite the negative effects elsewhere.

Garchyland

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How do we feel about libertarians?

Tenacious wrote:How do we feel about libertarians?

I don't much care for them. Most self-described "libertarians" I've met are objectivists, and hold an attitude of "I've got mine, f**k you". American Right-wing Libertarian-ism, to my mind, at least, smacks of formalized selfishness. I do not know how it stands outside the U.S. IMHO, the world would have been better off if Ayn Rand had never learned to read and write.

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Tenacious wrote:How do we feel about libertarians?

They're right on social issues but mostly wrong on the economy. Their USA presidential candidate to my knowledge is critical of corporate money in politics but he's totally for small government and capitalism, which can look like good ideas on paper but can lead to inequality.

In the USA, the tendency is for Democrats to be pro-Civil Rights and less in favour or hostile to at least some Economic Rights. Republicans are their mirror image, being VERY pro-Economic Rights and not so enthusiastic to, even hostile towards, many Civil Rights. Republicans are quite willing, for the most part, to impede Political Freedoms if it will help them to win elections. There are several varieties of Libertarianism, but the most ideologically consistent are those who are BOTH in favour of Civil and Economic Rights. Lest this sound too appealing, it would abandon the collective power of nations to do things like combat global warming or alleviate poverty or care for the indigent.

From what it sounds like, if you have all the economic and social freedoms then thats true liberty.

Thank you to the Defenders that helped our region thwart the recent invasion attempt - I'm ejecting lots of nations from the event, so I apologize in advance if I eject defender nations or others that have helped!

Cool.

Where do you guys sit on the liberal vs libertarian spectrum? I find the subtle difference an intriguing one and would love to hear people's views.

Good news, friends in ALH! <3

The Equilism Township has come out with this dispatch to share around our in-game embassies! Please give it your up-vote!

Thank you,

Isaris, WA Delegate of Equilism

Sheila Anteres, Garchyland

Brexit shows what happens when people put too much faith in the lowly educated to make the right choice.

Garchyland, Eyana, Xandia Swift

Derkomia wrote:Brexit shows what happens when people put too much faith in the lowly educated to make the right choice.

Will be very interesting to see what happens next - you would have thought they would have learned to not let these type of issues go to popular vote (Greece bankruptcy voting in 2011 comes to mind...)

Garchyland wrote:Will be very interesting to see what happens next - you would have thought they would have learned to not let these type of issues go to popular vote (Greece bankruptcy voting in 2011 comes to mind...)

"Interesting"? I'm sorry, but I don't find the far-right nearly tanking the world economy (again!) to be "interesting". I find it to be somewhere between frightening and infuriating.

Maineiacs wrote:"Interesting"? I'm sorry, but I don't find the far-right nearly tanking the world economy (again!) to be "interesting". I find it to be somewhere between frightening and infuriating.

While I do think this will have far reaching worldwide consequences I don't believe it will throw us into another worldwide recession. "Interesting" may have been putting it mildly, but I think the brunt of the consequences will be placed on the UK. As an American this decision has far less of an impact on my daily life as it will to others in the UK and EU, but I'm certainly saddened by the news (I'm pro EU) - I wouldn't, however, say that I'm frightened or infuriated. I save those words in reference to Trump!

Garchyland wrote:I wouldn't, however, say that I'm frightened or infuriated. I save those words in reference to Trump!

Amen to that. However, we haven't seen the last of the repercussions of this (and a Trump presidency might be one of them).

Garchyland

Good morning, friends! How are you all today?

Garchyland

Derkomia wrote:Brexit shows what happens when people put too much faith in the lowly educated to make the right choice.

It is scary, but leaving decisions to a few 'intelligent' elected officials is not the answer either like gun control in US Congress. Still I have hope that intelligence and reason will prevail over ignorance in the long run one way or another.

...and a good morning to you Starberry!

Garchyland

Hey friends.

The Utopia Of United States

Guys can you believe it I just got kicked out for saying the RNC is a mess

What do you guys think of the legislation up for vote in the World Assembly? Pretty good right?

Prideful Rainbow wrote:What do you guys think of the legislation up for vote in the World Assembly? Pretty good right?

Yep!

I'm feeling like we should be doing a poll soon...

The Utopia Of United States, The Second International, Mutual Benefit

I hope you will all join me in voting against it! A woman has a right to abortion regardless of how long she has been pregnant!

Is this an active liberal region?

Mutual Benefit

Garchyland wrote:I'm feeling like we should be doing a poll soon...

I've never been able to figure out how to do a pole.

How do delegate elections work? I'd like to run nevt time. I feel like the WA has been taking the wrong approach and infringing on people's rights.

The Utopia Of United States

Mutual Benefit wrote:I've never been able to figure out how to do a pole.

You need a regional office.

I feel like I could benefit our region more than I have been, Any elections?

The Utopia Of United States

A lot of topics in geopolitics would be ripe for polls and discussions, but I guess many people play NS to get away from the disturbing reality of everyday life. It hasn't been a very good year, globally. Does anyone else feel frustrated and powerless when seeing with what little sense and wisdom this world is governed?

Eyana, Xandia Swift, The Utopia Of United States

The Utopia Of United States wrote:You need a regional office.

How do you get a regional office?

Mutual Benefit wrote:How do you get a regional office?

I think there are elections or appointments. You can telegram Garchyland for the details.

The Utopia Of United States wrote:I think there are elections or appointments. You can telegram Garchyland for the details.

It has been a very, very long time since we had a constitution and open election. The office appointments were made when that feature was released earlier this year.

I think it's time we considered where we want to go - do we want to have an informal type government? Or an active government? Do we want to have specific requirements (similar to Democratic Socialist Assembly) or would we prefer to be an informal place for discussion (like Philosophy 115)? Once we decide this everything else will fall into place, but we should figure out what nations we want to attract and what type of region we would like to be.

The Utopia Of United States, Prideful Rainbow

Garchyland wrote:It has been a very, very long time since we had a constitution and open election. The office appointments were made when that feature was released earlier this year.

I think it's time we considered where we want to go - do we want to have an informal type government? Or an active government? Do we want to have specific requirements (similar to Democratic Socialist Assembly) or would we prefer to be an informal place for discussion (like Philosophy 115)? Once we decide this everything else will fall into place, but we should figure out what nations we want to attract and what type of region we would like to be.

Perhaps we can set up a poll about having an informal or active government, and then a poll about having specific requirements or being more open.

Garchyland, Eyana

Should we have a requirement for high civil liberties?

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Make it timed if you do - the game mechanics (and the exagurrated results) can mess with new players (like me). Give new players a month to get used to it .

Hi!

Why was I kicked out the other day?

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