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Gorutimania wrote:bring ventura there too

💀

Only if he wants to go. He'd prefer to go to the Soviet Union of one of the Internationals, I'd think.

Keltionialang wrote:nope

is it just stockholm syndrome but with a fancier name??

No, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haltlose_personality_disorder

Stranarei wrote:💀

Only if he wants to go. He'd prefer to go to the Soviet Union of one of the Internationals, I'd think.

Yeah, he's a commie.

Stranarei

Gorutimania wrote:Yeah, he's a commie.

Tbh I feel like if all Americans truly knew the real definition of communism, they would have had a revolution by now because of the effects of it in theory

Stranarei wrote:No, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haltlose_personality_disorder

yeah no that's just all of 4chan

Stranarei

Stranarei wrote:Indian-American, although I think he's in Kolkota right now (on holiday?)

speaking of holiday im going on vacation soon lol

Salad Catia wrote:Tbh I feel like if all Americans truly knew the real definition of communism, they would have had a revolution by now because of the effects of it in theory

True. However, communism is evil.

Gorutimania wrote:True. However, communism is evil.

Let’s debate that. In what way is that evil?

Salad Catia wrote:Tbh I feel like if all Americans truly knew the real definition of communism, they would have had a revolution by now because of the effects of it in theory

You a Communist?

Fortilla wrote:speaking of holiday im going on vacation soon lol

Where to?

Salad Catia wrote:Tbh I feel like if all Americans truly knew the real definition of communism, they would have had a revolution by now because of the effects of it in theory

the progressive era was the closest we'll ever get

Stranarei wrote:Where to?

malaga (spain)

Stranarei

Salad Catia wrote:Let’s debate that. In what way is that evil?

Have you seen China and the Soviet Union? China basically censors everything not supportive of communism and so did the Soviet Union. It also barely gives money to the population.

Stranarei wrote:You a Communist?

No, more of a moderate democratic socialist

Salad Catia wrote:No, more of a moderate democratic socialist

Ok. I think we need a moderate amount of moderate democratic socialism

Gorutimania wrote:Have you seen China and the Soviet Union? China basically censors everything not supportive of communism and so did the Soviet Union. It also barely gives money to the population.

If you did actual research in the functions of modern china, you will find that it is more capitalist than communist, although trying to call itself communist in spite of america

You may also find that poverty rates in China are much lower than the USA, although according to you the US “gives money to the population” (that is what i infer from your previous statement)

Stranarei wrote:Ok. I think we need a moderate amount of moderate democratic socialism

A very conservative moderate btw

Salad Catia wrote:If you did actual research in the functions of modern china, you will find that it is more capitalist than communist, although trying to call itself communist in spite of america

You may also find that poverty rates in China are much lower than the USA, although according to you the US “gives money to the population”

Yeahhh

Gorutimania wrote:Have you seen China and the Soviet Union? China basically censors everything not supportive of communism and so did the Soviet Union. It also barely gives money to the population.

China after Deng is just a degenerated mix of "socialism" and capitalism.

The Soviets after Lenin were corrupt, degenerated red fascists who tore it down from the inside.

Gorutimania i dont think you are gonna win this argument. American morals will only carry you so far without solid facts

Keltionialang wrote:China after Deng is just a degenerated mix of "socialism" and capitalism.

The Soviets after Lenin were corrupt, degenerated red fascists who tore it down from the inside.

Mao wasn't much better though tbh

Hey, lets debate this in Bopdr!

Keltionialang wrote:China after Deng is just a degenerated mix of "socialism" and capitalism.

The Soviets after Lenin were corrupt, degenerated red fascists who tore it down from the inside.

The Soviet Union didn’t do a great job of following communist standards and they just ended up being a pure dictatorship, not really communist

Stranarei wrote:Mao wasn't much better though tbh

He at least had decent ideals. Even if he did absolutely horribly, he still wanted to do good.

Salad Catia wrote:The Soviet Union didn’t do a great job of following communist standards and they just ended up being a pure dictatorship, not really communist

After Lenin's death, it became little more than a degenerated red tsardom.

Keltionialang wrote:He at least had decent ideals. Even if he did absolutely horribly, he still wanted to do good.

Nah, that doesn't count. It doesn't matter if you want to do good if you do terribly

Stranarei wrote:Nah, that doesn't count. It doesn't matter if you want to do good if you do terribly

also he's fun to play in hoi4

/j

Stranarei

Gorutimania wrote:Have you seen China and the Soviet Union? China basically censors everything not supportive of communism and so did the Soviet Union. It also barely gives money to the population.

There are successful communist/socialist states (i merge communism and socialism because although they are different, i don’t want to explain the difference to you)

Most of Western Europe use a semi capitalist semi socialist economic system, like Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, and France to name a few

Vietnam as a communist state is getting along nicely as well

Ngl Floofybit seems kinda based

Stranarei wrote:Ngl Floofybit seems kinda based

NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. ABSOLUTELY NOT. NOT ONE BIT.

Keltionialang wrote:NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. ABSOLUTELY NOT. NOT ONE BIT.

Why not?

Stranarei wrote:Why not?

There is not a single good thing about authoritarianism.

Also

Safety and "equality" over freedom is brainrot.

Keltionialang wrote:There is not a single good thing about authoritarianism.

Also

Safety and "equality" over freedom is brainrot.

Is it though? I think it depends. I can see how some people would prefer a safe world over a free one.

Also there are lots of good things about authoritarianism

Stranarei wrote:Is it though? I think it depends. I can see how some people would prefer a safe world over a free one.

Also there are lots of good things about authoritarianism

Safety over freedom only gets you extremism.

Also, list these "benefits" to glorified nazism.

Keltionialang wrote:Safety over freedom only gets you extremism.

Also, list these "benefits" to glorified nazism.

Well, what do you mean by authoritarianism?

Stranarei wrote:Well, what do you mean by authoritarianism?

Anything that restricts something than these four things.

1. Murder or physical harm

2. animal abuse (zoophilia included)

3. child abuse (pedophilia included)

4. theft from a person, not a business

Keltionialang wrote:Anything that restricts something than these four things.

1. Murder or physical harm

2. animal abuse (zoophilia included)

3. child abuse (pedophilia included)

4. theft from a person, not a business

There might be things that don't fall into one of these categories, but still harm people.

That's a loose definition of authoritarianism.

Stranarei wrote:There might be things that don't fall into one of these categories, but still harm people.

That's a loose definition of authoritarianism.

It's not. Being prudish when you see a naked dude walking around isn't harm. It's just being sensitive. I did forget 2 of my points, but those are the main 4. Anything that restricts anything more than that is authoritarian.

Keltionialang wrote:It's not. Being prudish when you see a naked dude walking around isn't harm. It's just being sensitive. I did forget 2 of my points, but those are the main 4. Anything that restricts anything more than that is authoritarian.

No.

Stranarei wrote:No.

Oh, and the two other things.

Slavery

And heavy, backbreaking regulations for corpos.

Stranarei

Keltionialang wrote:Oh, and the two other things.

Slavery

And heavy, backbreaking regulations for corpos.

Well, the fundamental freedom is for people to choose what sort of society to live in. If you want to live under a...minarchist? government, fine, but you can't force me to.

hello i'm new

Stranarei

Stranarei wrote:Well, the fundamental freedom is for people to choose what sort of society to live in. If you want to live under a...minarchist? government, fine, but you can't force me to.

Minarchist government is still a government. No government whatsoever would be ideal, as long as there's still someone to enforce those 6 points and to regulate the corpos. Oh, and welfare. Probably the only thing a government is good for can just become a requirement of corpos.

Brightonparkland wrote:hello i'm new

Hello. New to Nationstates as a whole or just Brebina?

Just Brebina

Stranarei

Keltionialang wrote:Minarchist government is still a government. No government whatsoever would be ideal, as long as there's still someone to enforce those 6 points and to regulate the corpos. Oh, and welfare. Probably the only thing a government is good for can just become a requirement of corpos.

So the schools, roads etc will be run and maintained by corpos? For free? And, I presume, one of the functions of the very limited government would be to enforce the requirements of the corps on them?

Brightonparkland wrote:Just Brebina

How long have you been playing nationstates for?

Do you want a spot on the map for the FT RP?

Stranarei wrote:So the schools, roads etc will be run and maintained by corpos? For free? And, I presume, one of the functions of the very limited government would be to enforce the requirements of the corps on them?

Yes. The corpos will be forced to do everything the government can't. If they don't, no more corpo. And if there's no corpos, the people can maintain it themselves.

Stranarei wrote:How long have you been playing nationstates for?

Do you want a spot on the map for the FT RP?

I've just starded to play

No, that violates freedom of speech for me

Lugarvatn wrote:No, that violates freedom of speech for me

what

Keltionialang wrote:what

I pick "Others (in RMB)" in the poll, is there any problem

Lugarvatn wrote:I pick "Others (in RMB)" in the poll, is there any problem

Oh. I wasn't aware of what you meant.

Lugarvatn wrote:No, that violates freedom of speech for me

Lugarvatn wrote:I pick "Others (in RMB)" in the poll, is there any problem

I would advise you to just pick "no", if that's your opinion on the issue

Stranarei wrote:I would advise you to just pick "no", if that's your opinion on the issue

alright

Stranarei

You guys like my flag

Brightonparkland wrote:You guys like my flag

Not too bad 5.5/10

Stranarei wrote:Not too bad 5.5/10

Thank you!

Stranarei

Stranarei wrote:Ngl Floofybit seems kinda based

Why?

Brightonparkland wrote:You guys like my flag

Yeah.

Stranarei

Stranarei wrote:Ngl Floofybit seems kinda based

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=543594&sid=0924df2aea84dd75e6e75811bec4a736

You still sure about that?

I’m really considering permabanning Ventura now, because he’s single-handedly destroyed our relations with the LDU over ideological differences and by posting stupid sh*t

Constantipolianioianietani wrote:I’m really considering permabanning Ventura now, because he’s single-handedly destroyed our relations with the LDU over ideological differences and by posting stupid sh*t

magesta

Stranarei stop pinging me and deleting the message oh my god

Keltionialang wrote:Stranarei stop pinging me and deleting the message oh my god

I triple-posted.

Stranarei wrote:I triple-posted.

Just merge it with the second one

what even was the message

Keltionialang wrote:Just merge it with the second one

what even was the message

I did, didn't I? The second part of my second message was what was in the deleted post.

Stranarei wrote:I did, didn't I? The second part of my second message was what was in the deleted post.

Let me check

Stranarei

Keltionialang wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=543594&sid=0924df2aea84dd75e6e75811bec4a736

You still sure about that?

Now, it is an idea which has potential for corruption.

Stranarei wrote:Now, it is an idea which has potential for corruption.

Just read the entire topic.

Stranarei wrote:Now, it is an idea which has potential for corruption.

ok yeah i thought that was someone else because it only showed me one ping, but not really sure how that makes it satanic

Keltionialang wrote:ok yeah i thought that was someone else because it only showed me one ping, but not really sure how that makes it satanic

Read the Bible. Or ask Horrorlandian State.

Stranarei wrote:Read the Bible. Or ask Horrorlandian State.

I already did, and the bible isn't sacrosanct.

Keltionialang wrote:I already did, and the bible isn't sacrosanct.

Horrorlandian State is, I believe Croatian (am I correct), therefore, probably Catholic.

Stranarei wrote:Horrorlandian State is, I believe Croatian (am I correct), therefore, probably Catholic.

ok

ok nvm trr is a lot more inactive nowadays

Gorutimania wrote:h

i would suppress this but you're president

Keltionialang wrote:ok nvm trr is a lot more inactive nowadays

Ik right?

Gorutimania wrote:Ik right?

yeah, i moved my puppet there and they can't provide the stimulation i need when you guys are gone :/

Keltionialang wrote:yeah, i moved my puppet there and they can't provide the stimulation i need when you guys are gone :/

i think tnp is good for activity

Gorutimania wrote:i think tnp is good for activity

i was thinking of moving almu there but the rp n stuff. i may move one of my random other puppets there though

Gorutimania wrote:i think tnp is good for activity

tnp is dead, half of their dispatches are outdated and the rmb is really inactive as of late

Lunarvi wrote:tnp is dead, half of their dispatches are outdated and the rmb is really inactive as of late

What about tsp?

Stranarei wrote:What about tsp?

never been there

I need one piece of evidence and then I’m permabanning Ventura

Constantipolianioianietani wrote:I need one piece of evidence and then I’m permabanning Ventura

hes a commie now

Gorutimania wrote:hes a commie now

What the f*ck? What do you mean he’s a commie?

Constantipolianioianietani wrote:What the f*ck? What do you mean he’s a commie?

Read over his latest posts on TUBS. His new main is Communist India- (wont ping youre welcome kelt).

Gorutimania wrote:Read over his latest posts on TUBS. His new main is Communist India- (wont ping youre welcome kelt).

That flag though 💀

Gorutimania wrote:Read over his latest posts on TUBS. His new main is Communist India- (wont ping youre welcome kelt).

I'm glad i didnt turn into a communist 💀

Stranarei wrote:That flag though 💀

Yeah LMAO.

Peoples Of Waskar wrote:I'm glad i didnt turn into a communist 💀

Yeah, me too.

Peoples Of Waskar

Gorutimania wrote:Read over his latest posts on TUBS. His new main is Communist India- (wont ping youre welcome kelt).

…great

I figured out he’s been quoting fake quotes of LDU members (like the one that the NS Mods deleted), which they’re definitely not happy with, which is where the basis for the permaban is coming from along with him saying stuff to single-handedly ruin Brebina’s rep. I’d hope banning him would indicate (to others) the start of a turn away from Brebina being “Ventura’s Region” and rather it being “the citizens of Brebina’s region”. Speaking of that I’ve gotten really pissed at Ventura acting like he has regional authority that he quite frankly doesn’t, trying to act like he can overthrow the democratic process by merit of once having that power (like when he tried to act like he could single-handedly stop us from rebuilding embassies with the LDU).

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