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Region: Empire of Great Britain
what that
Yep!
Stayed there for 10+years
Mother Asia, Allynthia
Probably an alliance
Im the first place for death rate in this region
😄
Sublime State, Jewish Sealand, Allynthia, Speranzist
PROPSAL:
Mother Asia is thinking GB needs an international judicial jury Aka courtroom for the international countries inside of BA.
What do you guys think?
Sublime State, Jewish Sealand, Allynthia
We second this motion,
having an organisation similar to the ICC or the ICJ would allow nations to try the ones who have comited mass war crimes to be held accuntable, and THERE ARE nations that has done it in the past, such as Portugal and Deustflein
Mother Asia, Jewish Sealand
is BA the BDA or is it something else?
Mother Asia, Jewish Sealand
Explain your reasoning behind it
I meant Great Britan. here.
Speranzist
BDA
but do you guys want any changes to the BDAWL?
Mother Asia
Stands for?
Speranzist
didnt know what the 'A' was for xD
hmm I feel like many nations would simply ignore it as they probably will stick to their own policies
Mother Asia
BDA warcrime list
Check the factbook
Allynthia
Congress got your country approved as democrats took control over power for both senate and house.
So we have summed up a fund of
15BILLIONUSD!! for your economic purposes, recovery, humanitarian aid, etc.
They can stick to it, but for big iussues such as if BDA goes to war, or BA goes to war against each other
We have a court of obligations were countries. file claims.
Well, that is how international law works , unless a nation has signed and ratified it, they are not obligated to follow such laws.
So much like the Rome statute and the ICJ, we could establish a similar system where the violation of BDAWL could be enforced by the court.
FYI it is not like the UNSC and is not voted by countries.
Mother Asia, Jewish Sealand
Thank you! this is help many in poverty after the constant invasions.
We are a strict democracy, this is due to us being highly religious
We allow people to vote in major decisions and vote after a PM OR DM(divine minister if churches head is elected) passes away or resigns
Allynthia
I do not mind joining if my chemicals weapons can be used in Warzone areas(humane gasses)
But first I will wait till all the rules and policies are finished
Who will make the international Laws and be a judge?
Jewish Sealand, Allynthia
For judging, the BDA can vote for a Chief Justice/Judge within or outside of BDA.
The judical state then require to be IMPARTIAL, so if they were to refrain from fighting in certain conflicts since that would be vested interest.
Also bringing to court a case where the judge-nation participated in would also be problematic.
this also arises the question, who will up hold the jurisdiction of the Court? the BDA?? then what if a nation within the BDA commits the crime and deny the allegations or refuse/deny the jurisdiction or the ruling of the court? would the rest of BDA have to fight them?
Speranzist, Exitium
I agree with this but what would happen if the Judge was forced to participate in the war?
this is basically my only question as I understand everything you said
Allynthia
Post self-deleted by Exitium.
The the judge is to keep impartial for accurate ruling, therefore they HAVE to be neutral to provide an impartial judgement.
Where the nation is to join the conflict due to unavoidable circumstances, such as an invasion. the only logical option to maintain the impartiality would be to have another nation/organisation/individual judge the issue.
Mother Asia
Its basically like the UN court system
Allynthia, Speranzist
I feel like nations like Deushtflein would attack neutral nations including the judge and use harsh acts.
Not that Deushtflien will do it again due to the Treaty of Lublin but other nations might.
But it probably wont happen...right?
Mother Asia, Allynthia
Mother Asia is also thinking of making a youth program for all GB to explore GB itself and educate themself under our program and see where they wanna live when they are done with the program.
We would provide them with
-food
-allowances
-housing
-free airline tickets (economy bruh)
(Transportation),
-1.9KUSD to the country they go to for living or exploring
THE CATCH IS only 2 million from every nation can enroll and join per nation its only 2 million until the next 5-6 years.
What do you guys think?
Exitium
Gotta keep an eye out 👀
Sublime State, Speranzist
Well, I think its similar to ICJ. But I personally think its kind of more closer to ICC , since here the nations that will be held accountable for breaking the BDAWL are members of the BDA, however we are trying nation's here instead of individuals (but since its Nationstates, it is again an "individual"). But then again, they ARE quite similar.
Mother Asia, Speranzist, Exitium
That's really good but I think that would drain your resources, also probably don't let anyone enter my nation since its a bit unsafe
Mother Asia, Exitium
My Proposition
I would like to put my name forward as the Chief of Justice for the BDA. I understand that it is early doors and not much is being discussed as of yet however I would like to say that I would love the oppurtunity to help shape the BDA and contribute as a non-member. It would be beneficial to allow a non-member to contribute to the BDA. I am open to the prospect of helping other nations recieve justice in times of conflict. I will also be completely happy with abstaining from wars and conflicts to allow my posistion to be considered and upheld with diginity and honor. I have contributed greatly to this amazing region and believe that if I was to become the Chief of Justice I could further develop and expand upon my contributions. I will also be happy to help shape the laws surrounding the BDA judicial system. I believe I can really contribute and support the BDA in their endeavours. My nation also is very into Law and Order with 25.6% of my budget going towards the justice system, this shows my nations compassion and understanding of the law. If any nations have any questions feel free to ask!
Yours Sincerely,
Exitium
Mother Asia, Jewish Sealand, Allynthia, Speranzist
Well, they would most likely attack after the ruling of the judge has been passed against them, so the decision is already out.
For safety we could just keep the information regarding who the judge is within the BDA members alone, however it would easily leak and being the only nation NOT participating in the war would be a dead giveaway.
What I would nominate is that selected natio's sending their representative judges, where together they decide the verdict. They can be kept anoymous and safe from hostile nations and their verdict can not be traced back to the orginating nation as these judges will be seen as "representatives of the BDA itself" and not just a single nation. (and the decision making nation for the NS .....we could just vote on it ig)
Jewish Sealand, Speranzist
Once its made we could put you up as a candidate I suppose
Personally I wouldn't mind you as a judge
Mother Asia, Jewish Sealand, Exitium
Haha...might have to change the Representative role in the BDA so British Andorra wont be confused
Mother Asia, Jewish Sealand, British Andorra, Allynthia
We see no problem with this, however,
We see it would be better to have another deputy Chief justice or VICE - Cheif justice , incase the CHIEF justice is unavailable or to make a verdict were they to be attacked
Speranzist, Exitium
We are essentially in NS, which already has its own Security council, and we are part of the EoGB, which has its own empire and parliment and oppositon and Royal Navy, and then we have created another system of BDA within itself.
anyone can get confused
Speranzist, Exitium
I completely agree with this. To have a Deputy/Vice would allow another opnion and to allow the Judge to defend themself if they were to be attacked.
Mother Asia, Allynthia, Speranzist
Wow...anyways I'm just happy to join if it is made
Jewish Sealand, Allynthia
Indeed, it is quite fun.
Jewish Sealand
Hmm what do you propose?
Allynthia
Well we would do background screening as its an educational opportunity
Barrenroads
Oo can I be involved?
What about Supreme Court judge/leader?
(Speaking as Speranzist)
You can be the representative of the BDA by checking the factbook, the rules of the factbook doesnt matter if they vote for you as the representative.
Representative is now called Administrator
Mother Asia, Allynthia
BREAKING NEWS:
Mother Asia Rocket Launch towards Mars has successfully landed & captured water of over 100 miles wide.
This is the 3rd rocket set into space
Mother Asia has done within the queens presidency .
Jewish Sealand, Allynthia, Barrenroads
Mother Asia wants to run for Administrator.
Barrenroads
Maybe have Exitum as Chief Justice and another member FROM BDA as the Vice-chief Justice.
The cases to the court occur only by members of BDA bringing in TO that court, unless it will not be tried by the court.
Both the accusing and defending nations get to state their case and Chief Justice state their verdict and punishment suitable to guilty,
If guilty nation does not accept, then the BDA representative, Chief Justice and Vice Chief, all 3 could call an attack by BDA members on the accused nation, however all 3 have to agree.
If the Chief Justice is unavailable or is being tried in the court themselves, then the Vice Chief can take up the authority temporarily.
This sounds good?
Mother Asia, Exitium
Speranzist and I are waiting eagerly for a space related issue.
The PM of Barrenroads congratulates you!
Mother Asia, Allynthia
Thank you. 🤗
(Speaking as Speranzist)
I might change the rules for the administrator
To make it more equal
This would make nations like you more possible to run for it.
Ill do the voting soon after the rules are changed and sadly most BDA members are busy during this time period as telegrams I send them are late or not replied
Mother Asia
Hmm wouldnt that be corruption??!
How do we know one did not talk to another and chief justice lets them go without any punishment even with proof.
I been pretty active on nation-states I think we can all agree that MotherAsia has played her fair share of the political position here right.
Allynthia, Exitium, Barrenroads
Oh yeah this only regards to the BDAWL as I want BDA to strictly follow the articles.
Nations can follow the international law but BDA nations can choose to be in it and use their own democratic systems and articles freely
Allynthia
Yes, the only problem is people need to be active to vote
Mother Asia, Allynthia
Mother Asia
Edit glitched a bit
I am active? *cries in corner*.
And Im the only girl whos probaly active here.!
Allynthia, Speranzist
It Wont.
Well, it was only a proposition,
And we are most likely to elect them, so i guess vote with care? this is what democracy brings.
As such why Allynthia follows an autocratic system.
And....to prevent corruption, we could assign SOMEONE ELSE...again...OR form another committee....again.
Probably the only girl here.
True.
indeed, even though there are 300+ nation in the region, only a dozen actually engage in the RMB.
And only half of them are here regularly, many of the region's exco are on the Discord running the empire or on forums.
And BDA itself has only half a dozen members in itself, so very little candidates and human resources to go about.
Jewish Sealand, British Andorra, Speranzist
Can You Guys Please Help My Country Get Back On Track? We Just Fought A Horrible Revolution.
Allynthia
Gentlemen and nice girls, if they're reading this. If you can tell me what was happening here and is being done right now, then I just haven't been here for a little over a month.
Jewish Sealand, Speranzist
oh thats a lot of stuff you missed
Jewish Sealand, Allynthia
BDA was formed as a defensive alliance and you can see the wars they fought in my factbook.
There was a trade treaty between some nations(mother asia was in it and i forgot the name)
we are discussing about a International jury's system now in this region.
Jewish Sealand
Post self-deleted by Orlovckaya.
there are many more stuff but i dont have the right information sadly
Oh...like hell he did.
Most importantly, you missed the 20th NS anniversary, whicih means you missed the 3rd gen cards.
Missed ALOT of wars in the RMB
and uuh...lot of work on BDA
Speranzist got invaded time and time again.
Simply read the dispatches by Speranzist, they contain most data on the BDA,
And BDA is literally like 90& of whatever happen here anymore
Jewish Sealand, Speranzist
Same.
Most Of The Wars Were Me!
Jewish Sealand
Oh we know...We know...We know VERY WELL....we know.
Jewish Sealand, Speranzist
You can learn more about each one.
All The Other Countries Learn When There Fightin g With Me Is To Be Prepared.
Can I participate in this BDA?
You could apply, then the ones in BDA vote for it and such .
Check the Dispatches by Speranzist, it contains all necessery details on the BDA
It will be necessary to deal with the central bank of the Empire of Britain again.
Allynthia
Where to apply for membership BDA?
I suppose telegram the administrator, which would be British Andorra currently
Jewish Sealand, Orlovckaya, Deushtflein
OPERATION LUF WATEA
--------------------------------------------
Frund Koleny Arrives On The Shore Of Africa With 50 Officers And 400 Soilders. "We Shall Now Colonize!" Friend Koleny Yells And Walks With His Men Onto The Soil Placing The Deushtfleinian Flag. They Then Walk Around For A Bit Looking At The Landscape. They Then Set Up Camp And The News Is Spread Across The Country: "Kolenys In Africa!" Many More Soilders Are Going There And Many Civilians To. Deushtflein Is Now Colonizing Africa!
Sure
Man...you are in for a treat.....or a crusade in this case
*grabs pop corn*
Anyone else declaring neutrality in the war happening within today and enjoy the chaos about to do down?
Barrenroads
Dont have the money as we are rebuilding ourselves too
Ok. Wanna Trade?
We Won't Attack Them. We're WAY Different Then The Monarchy.
Could someone please sum up the past 80 or so messages for me?
Seems like there were 2-3 different proposals combined with a bunch of other stuff, I don't have the time to go through it all...
Jewish Sealand
Well, We Found Are Way To Africa!
:)
We are thinking of making the war crime list a international treaty but it hasnt been made yet
Jewish Sealand, Allynthia
Alright
As Barrenroads said, that and, creating a court and voting on a judge to decide on those war crimes.
Deushtflein forming alliance with new comer
and orlovyckya is back from the dead and wants to join BDA
BDA representative changed to BDA administrator
Mother asia want to run as administrator
that sums up everything i suppose
Lunayria, Jewish Sealand, Speranzist
NEW FACT BOOK! THE STANDARD DEUSHTFLEINIAN ARMY UNIFORM.
Thank you for summing it up seems quite a bit has been going on.
Jewish Sealand, Allynthia
for the pilots it should be oxygen masks not gas mask since they need oxygen in the air to survive
It's Both, Beacause If They Crash Land Into A Battle Field With Gas, There Gonna Need It.
A Crashed pilot would probably removed it instantly to make sense of whats going on but i suppose its alright.
Our Cmissile can only be fixed by an antidote or speranzists classified masks if you are trying to fight that
But i hope you remember that 40% of your military has been decreased and make sure to pay the debts
but your uniforms seems to be cool
we have some pictures of some of our forces in my factbook
check it out too
:>
not that interesting to make that a post ngl (not being mean)
Just being happy at something mate
Allynthia
We Ain't Paying, The Erotoys Are.
If the Erotoys wont, you will as this treaty is to the land of Deushtflien and even if it was history your nation DID cause catastrophes to many nations.
If you dont pay it is obvious that the Federal Government is a puppet and used to escape the treaty and we helping us was tricks and a possible attempt to weaken us.
Unless your government doesnt own the land of Deushtflien you dont have to pay and besides it is also a punishments for the war crimes you have done
what do you mean by this :/
"HELLO! WANNA JOIN THE ALLIED STATES OF DEUSHTFLEIN?"
is it an alliance or something or a union or what is it
It Meant If You Wanted To Join My Country.
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