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Saint Arsenio wrote:This is not making a mockery of your freedoms. Our Region was based off of an Empire, and there was a line of succession.

I don't appreciate being called the "puppet" of an "authoritarian dictator," because neither of those statements are true. I have remained loyal to this region since my being here, and so have many others, but we can't say the same thing about a few other Nations here.

Quite ironic.

Would Your Majesty care to name these few other nations?

Lunayria wrote:I come on earlier to vote on the poll but it was deleted, Her Majesty Queen Victoria has returned and some statements made. Could someone please explain the situation ASAP.

Where can one find these statements?

Not-Brittania wrote:Would Your Majesty care to name these few other nations?

Id prefer not to cast the realm into civil war by casting those corrupted into the proverbial fire. Perhaps it would be best to clear the air over the recent succession crisis however

Saint Arsenio wrote:This is not making a mockery of your freedoms. Our Region was based off of an Empire, and there was a line of succession.

I don't appreciate being called the "puppet" of an "authoritarian dictator," because neither of those statements are true. I have remained loyal to this region since my being here, and so have many others, but we can't say the same thing about a few other Nations here.

Quite ironic.

As far as I am concerned, you are not the head of state. The Government should not heed to this Puppet Emperor.

The Holy Brittannian Empire wrote:Where can one find these statements?

By statements I mean the conversation between The Founding Father and Saint Arsenio

The Holy Brittannian Empire

The Founding Father wrote:As far as I am concerned, you are not the head of state. The Government should not heed to this Puppet Emperor.

Our Region was founded on the basis of an Empire. According to the line of succession, I am the next in line. I really don't understand how this is hard to comprehend.

Again, I do not appreciate being called a "puppet," and I ask that you call me Saint Arsenio, just as my Nation name states instead.

Not-Brittania, I was referring to the Nations that decided to rebel against the Empire earlier in the year. I won't specifically name them, though.

Menorica

Saint Arsenio wrote:Our Region was founded on the basis of an Empire. According to the line of succession, I am the next in line. I really don't understand how this is hard to comprehend.

Again, I do not appreciate being called a "puppet," and I ask that you call me Saint Arsenio, just as my Nation name states instead.

Not-Brittania, I was referring to the Nations that decided to rebel against the Empire earlier in the year. I won't specifically name them, though.

The House of Commons can pass the Imperator Act, abolish the corrupt monarchy and elect a legitimate head of state.

The Founding Father wrote:The House of Commons can pass the Imperator Act, abolish the corrupt monarchy and elect a legitimate head of state.

Please, tell me what I've done that is considered "corrupt". I'd love to hear why you want me gone so badly.

Also, I never said that the act couldn't be passed. You seem to be attempting to create a bad image of me, and I hope that other Citizens won't join in on this attempt to overthrow the government of the Empire, started again by the same Nation.

The Holy Brittannian Empire, Menorica

I have never previously, nor am I now, trying to overthrow the Government. I fully support the Prime Minister and his Cabinet.

However, I have consistently opposed the irratic authoritarian behaviour of the monarchy within the Empire.

Newtopian Britain

Well, I don't believe your first statement is true.

You are still not showing me what I've done to be labeled as a "corrupt" Monarch, but instead you seem to be diverting away from the actual question. You don't have to support me, and that's fine, however, you need to learn to give people chances. It seems to me that you are calling me corrupt because you didn't like something that my predecessor did (which I still don't see how anything she did could be considered corrupt).

It's good that you support the Prime Minister and his cabinet, however, I don't see how saying that answers any of my questions.

Menorica

Oh, the monarch returned? What a pleasant surprise.

Saint Arsenio, Menorica

Imperial German Commonwealth wrote:Oh, the monarch returned? What a pleasant surprise.

Her Majesty The Queen-Empress Emeritus has officially retired from her throne, Making His Majesty Emperor Saint Arsenio Emperor of The Empire of Great Britain, Her Majesty The Queen-Empress Emeritus has come back for only a time being.

The Holy Brittannian Empire, Saint Arsenio

The Founding Father wrote:I have never previously, nor am I now, trying to overthrow the Government. I fully support the Prime Minister and his Cabinet.

However, I have consistently opposed the irratic authoritarian behavior of the monarchy within the Empire.

Quite telling your nation is titled the protector considering you seem to espouse the philosopher of the old regicider Lord Protector of Britain

The Holy Brittannian Empire wrote:Quite telling your nation is titled the protector considering you seem to espouse the philosopher of the old regicider Lord Protector of Britain

It's almost coincidental, isn't it? I'm growing suspicious of him.

The Holy Brittannian Empire, Saint Arsenio

My long reputation within this community as Foreign Secretary, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, a Member of Parliament and Speaker of the House of Commons speaks for itself.

It cannot be sullied by any of the anti-democratic proponents within this region.

The Founding Father wrote:My long reputation within this community as Foreign Secretary, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, a Member of Parliament and Speaker of the House of Commons speaks for itself.

It cannot be sullied by any of the anti-democratic proponents within this region.

There is pro-democracy and there is treason. I remain wary of those that walk that fine line.

Imperial German Commonwealth

If you're trying to indirectly call me "anti-democratic," then you're wrong. I've only just ascended the throne, and you're criticizing me, which really says something about your character.

I may not have had as long a reputation as you, but I have always remained loyal and faithful to the Empire, and I will continue to do so.

You may not see me as the rightful head-of-state, and you may not approve of me, which you've said multiple times, however, you don't need to. You are allowed to have your own opinions, however, we have a Constitution, and we must follow it.

The Holy Brittannian Empire, Menorica, Imperial German Commonwealth

Saint Arsenio wrote:If you're trying to indirectly call me "anti-democratic," then you're wrong. I've only just ascended the throne, and you're criticizing me, which really says something about your character.

I may not have had as long a reputation as you, but I have always remained loyal and faithful to the Empire, and I will continue to do so.

You may not see me as the rightful head-of-state, and you may not approve of me, which you've said multiple times, however, you don't need to. You are allowed to have your own opinions, however, we have a Constitution, and we must follow it.

Crucially, the Constitution says nothing of succession or of the line of succession. Not a word.

Newtopian Britain

The Founding Father wrote:Crucially, the Constitution says nothing of succession or of the line of succession. Not a word.

It shouldn't need to. I thought that would have been common sense, considering we are an Empire, we have a Monarch, and a Crown Prince.

As for the Monarch being the Head-of-State, it directly says that near the top. You just have to read it.

Menorica

To me, The Founding Father's ideology resembles closely that of the Jacobins during the French Revolution: complete abolition of the monarchy and institution of a fully democratic government.

Okay I've stated my point, please don't crucify me

Saint Arsenio

I leave this region alone for a week and this happens XD what is the current situation

Gwerncyned wrote:I leave this region alone for a week and this happens XD what is the current situation

Her Majesty came back, and abdicated the throne, making me the Emperor. After I ascended, a Nation within the Empire began calling me a puppet, and saying that I wasn't the rightful head-of-state, and that I was corrupt. I then tried to explain to this Nation that, according to the Constitution and the way our Government works, I am the head-of-state.

The Nation hasn't said anything else since then, so I'm hoping that they've had some time to cool off.

Menorica

In respect for Remembrance Day, the United Islandic Provinces of Menorica has lowered it's National Flag to half staff to honour those whose lives were lost.

Lunayria, Not-Brittania, Newtopian Britain

I am BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK,

What did I missed?

Lunayria, Saint Arsenio

Monrodesia wrote:I am BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK,

What did I missed?

Instability and authoritarianism.

Newtopian Britain

Monrodesia wrote:I am BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK,

What did I missed?

I'm basically being called corrupt, along with being called a puppet by a Nation who hasn't always remained faithful to the Empire. I'm still waiting on my question to be answered as to where I have been corrupt, but I have yet to get it.

Menorica

Monrodesia wrote:I am BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK,

What did I missed?

Welcome back to the region.

I do apologise for not responding to your telegram, as you probably can tell a lot has been going on.

Saint Arsenio

Saint Arsenio,

If possible could you make the colour for the text in blue, on the world fact book entry, slightly brighter please? It's a tad hard to read, well it is for me at least.

Saint Arsenio, Menorica

Saint Arsenio wrote:I'm basically being called corrupt, along with being called a puppet by a Nation who hasn't always remained faithful to the Empire. I'm still waiting on my question to be answered as to where I have been corrupt, but I have yet to get it.

There is currently no legitimate legal or constitutional mechanism for the line of succession of the monarchy.

Nor is it acceptable or legal for any Monarch, including abdicated Monarchs, to undermine our constitutional democracy by establishing norms and practices on a whim.

Lunayria wrote:Saint Arsenio,

If possible could you make the colour for the text in blue, on the world fact book entry, slightly brighter please? It's a tad hard to read, well it is for me at least.

Sure! I'll do that now.

The Founding Father wrote:There is currently no legitimate legal or constitutional mechanism for the line of succession of the monarchy.

Nor is it acceptable or legal for any Monarch, including abdicated Monarchs, to undermine our constitutional democracy by establishing norms and practices on a whim.

I think you just have a problem with me, for some undisclosed reason. We are a Monarchy. It should be common sense that as Crown Prince, I ascend the throne in the event that my predecessor abdicates.

You have still failed to answer my question as to what I have done to be considered "corrupt," and how I've "undermined" your constitutional democracy. You have a problem with me, and I want to know what it is, and why.

Menorica

Saint Arsenio wrote:Sure! I'll do that now.

Thank you for changing it, but I meant could you make the blue text a lighter colour.

Thanks.

Saint Arsenio

Saint Arsenio wrote:I think you just have a problem with me, for some undisclosed reason. We are a Monarchy. It should be common sense that as Crown Prince, I ascend the throne in the event that my predecessor abdicates.

You have still failed to answer my question as to what I have done to be considered "corrupt," and how I've "undermined" your constitutional democracy. You have a problem with me, and I want to know what it is, and why.

This is not personal.

The Crown Prince is not an office/role legally recognised in the Constitution, unlike the role of Monarch which is established within the text.

The Monarch abdicated and left the region. I do not remember you ascending the throne upon her departure. We operated with the WA Delegate as our de facto head of state as there was no legal mechanism to replace the Monarch.

Only upon the former Monarchs return, and without the consultation of Parliament, were you placed on the throne and declared Emperor.

Newtopian Britain

Foreign Office Notice

This is a notice with regards to the recent telegram about the vacant office of Governor of Hong Kong Island.

I plan to retire completely from public service when my term in the House of Commons ends on 1st December 2019. I will also be resigning as Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs on this date.

I have no interest in serving in any other office after this date. Therefore, please do not under any circumstances submit my name for consideration for the position of Governor.

I do not wish to waste any time turning the position down when a capable nation could be sworn in and begin their service.

Thank you,

Colfax County

Lunayria, Saint Arsenio, Menorica

The Founding Father wrote:This is not personal.

The Crown Prince is not an office/role legally recognised in the Constitution, unlike the role of Monarch which is established within the text.

The Monarch abdicated and left the region. I do not remember you ascending the throne upon her departure. We operated with the WA Delegate as our de facto head of state as there was no legal mechanism to replace the Monarch.

Only upon the former Monarchs return, and without the consultation of Parliament, were you placed on the throne and declared Emperor.

Would it make you feel better if I just left? You are going through all this trouble just to try and prove something. You are the only one that seems to have a problem with me being the Emperor.

What is it with you? You could have at least said "Congratulations" or something before trying to bash me. Not once have you said anything positive to me before trying to drag my name through the mud, calling me a puppet and corrupt.

Saint Arsenio wrote:Would it make you feel better if I just left? You are going through all this trouble just to try and prove something. You are the only one that seems to have a problem with me being the Emperor.

What is it with you? You could have at least said "Congratulations" or something before trying to bash me. Not once have you said anything positive to me before trying to drag my name through the mud, calling me a puppet and corrupt.

Congratulations.

Jesus, the vitriol being thrown between Saint Arsenio and The Founding Father. Can't this be resolved in a more civil manner instead of one nation making unfounded accusations?

The Holy Brittannian Empire, Saint Arsenio, Menorica

Imperial German Commonwealth wrote:Jesus, the vitriol being thrown between Saint Arsenio and The Founding Father. Can't this be resolved in a more civil manner instead of one nation making unfounded accusations?

Exactly. I'd love for this to be over. I don't see why it needed to be started in the first place.

The Holy Brittannian Empire, Menorica

After studying the events of the past few days I codemn HRH. He is clearly attempting to seize power before either a trial can be held or the imperator act is passed. If the people of this region truly want him as leader they can elect him Imperator... I have cast my vote in favour of the bill and hope that HRH co-operates when it inevitably passes.

Gwerncyned wrote:After studying the events of the past few days I codemn HRH. He is clearly attempting to seize power before either a trial can be held or the imperator act is passed. If the people of this region truly want him as leader they can elect him Imperator... I have cast my vote in favour of the bill and hope that HRH co-operates when it inevitably passes.

Here we go again.

Alright, I'm going to send a Regional telegram to everyone explaining everything, since some citizens still do not get it.

Menorica

The Founding Father wrote:This is not personal.

The Crown Prince is not an office/role legally recognised in the Constitution, unlike the role of Monarch which is established within the text.

The Monarch abdicated and left the region. I do not remember you ascending the throne upon her departure. We operated with the WA Delegate as our de facto head of state as there was no legal mechanism to replace the Monarch.

Only upon the former Monarchs return, and without the consultation of Parliament, were you placed on the throne and declared Emperor.

Those who are unhappy with the current Monarch are those who will potentially seek to become a Republic in the future or tyranny upon this region. His Majesty Emperor Saint Arsenio assumed to the throne due to the retirement of Her Majesty Queen-Empress Victoria. Her Majesty The Queen did earlier in the region's History appointed His Majesty as the Prince of Wales, And as Crown Prince, His Majesty was delighted to serve in such an important position, the United Islandic Provinces of Menorica oversaw His Majesty's appointment, Under the trust of the Crown, What happened to his trust; Was unexpected misunderstood termination of his public service. He is confirmed, and ought not to be, A Tyrant, A Crown Fraud, A Unconstitutional Emperor, A Crown Invader, and or, A Misunderstanding And Confusion Of The Crown. His Majesty entered his current public service to serve as the Imperial Monarch of Great Britain; Having to be the successor of Her Majesty The Queen. You have no reason to argue with The Emperor, If he was ought to be an illegal crown holder, He would have not been under Her Majesty's trustworthy right now. He assumed to the throne to protect the Monarchy and the future of the Empire of Great Britain, Keeping the region from being turned into a Constitutional Republic or a Ruling Empire with an Electable Monarchy. The powers of The Monarchy should be trusted BY The Monarch, Not a inexperienced citizen, To prevent total damage, loss, or dictatorial control of the region and empire. The Constitution says

[ SEC. I - I. The Monarch shall serve as the Head of State and Commander-in-Chief of the Royal Navy. SEC. II - II. The Monarch shall be granted Emergency Powers as Regional Founder during a Regional Emergency. ] - Meaning therefore, His Majesty Emperor Saint Arsenio has been granted under the trust of the Crown to be her successor.

Words are marked bold and or underlined so the person reading this could understand why His Majesty was chosen by Her Majesty The Queen in the first place.

[spoiler=QUOTE:]"It Is Better To Have A New Monarch Rather Than No One As Monarch" - Prime Minister William Bell of Menorica[/spoiler]

The Holy Brittannian Empire, Saint Arsenio

A vote has begun on the Imperator Act. I invite all members of the House of Commons to cast their votes as soon as possible.

Menorica wrote:Those who are unhappy with the current Monarch are those who will potentially seek to become a Republic in the future or tyranny upon this region. His Majesty Emperor Saint Arsenio assumed to the throne due to the retirement of Her Majesty Queen-Empress Victoria. Her Majesty The Queen did earlier in the region's History appointed His Majesty as the Prince of Wales, And as Crown Prince, His Majesty was delighted to serve in such an important position, the United Islandic Provinces of Menorica oversaw His Majesty's appointment, Under the trust of the Crown, What happened to his trust; Was unexpected misunderstood termination of his public service. He is confirmed, and ought not to be, A Tyrant, A Crown Fraud, A Unconstitutional Emperor, A Crown Invader, and or, A Misunderstanding And Confusion Of The Crown. His Majesty entered his current public service to serve as the Imperial Monarch of Great Britain; Having to be the successor of Her Majesty The Queen. You have no reason to argue with The Emperor, If he was ought to be an illegal crown holder, He would have not been under Her Majesty's trustworthy right now. He assumed to the throne to protect the Monarchy and the future of the Empire of Great Britain, Keeping the region from being turned into a Constitutional Republic or a Ruling Empire with an Electable Monarchy. The powers of The Monarchy should be trusted BY The Monarch, Not a inexperienced citizen, To prevent total damage, loss, or dictatorial control of the region and empire. The Constitution says

[ SEC. I - I. The Monarch shall serve as the Head of State and Commander-in-Chief of the Royal Navy. SEC. II - II. The Monarch shall be granted Emergency Powers as Regional Founder during a Regional Emergency. ] - Meaning therefore, His Majesty Emperor Saint Arsenio has been granted under the trust of the Crown to be her successor.

Words are marked bold and or underlined so the person reading this could understand why His Majesty was chosen by Her Majesty The Queen in the first place.

[spoiler=QUOTE:]"It Is Better To Have A New Monarch Rather Than No One As Monarch" - Prime Minister William Bell of Menorica[/spoiler]

Thank You, Menorica. I can always count on you to have my back, even when it seems that no one else does.

If the act is passed, then so be it. I won't fight it, nor will I be angry at any of you. Want to know why? Because I'm the opposite of the lies the two Nations were previously spreading about me. I don't want power, and I never have. What I really wanted was to be able to serve the region that invited me in with warm arms -- the region that I have spent almost my entire NationStates time in.

This was the only region that, as a newbie, I was allowed a government position -- you trusted me. However, it seems that some Nations here don't want me in my position. I'm not angry with them, no. I'm disappointed in the fact that they would go so far as to spread those lies about me, to prove what?

If they are so bold as to spread those lies, what's next? In the end, the citizens of the Empire will speak, and that shall be the final decision.

If the act is passed, then I'd like these to be my final words in my position: "It has truly been an honour serving all of you, however, you have spoken. I wish the next Imperator the best in their term, and can only hope that they will bring prosperity to the region. Thank You all for trusting me, and I only wish I could have done more."

The Holy Brittannian Empire, Lunayria, Menorica

Saint Arsenio wrote:Thank You, Menorica. I can always count on you to have my back, even when it seems that no one else does.

If the act is passed, then so be it. I won't fight it, nor will I be angry at any of you. Want to know why? Because I'm the opposite of the lies the two Nations were previously spreading about me. I don't want power, and I never have. What I really wanted was to be able to serve the region that invited me in with warm arms -- the region that I have spent almost my entire NationStates time in.

This was the only region that, as a newbie, I was allowed a government position -- you trusted me. However, it seems that some Nations here don't want me in my position. I'm not angry with them, no. I'm disappointed in the fact that they would go so far as to spread those lies about me, to prove what?

If they are so bold as to spread those lies, what's next? In the end, the citizens of the Empire will speak, and that shall be the final decision.

If the act is passed, then I'd like these to be my final words in my position: "It has truly been an honour serving all of you, however, you have spoken. I wish the next Imperator the best in their term, and can only hope that they will bring prosperity to the region. Thank You all for trusting me, and I only wish I could have done more."

I have no issue with you leading the region at all and If that is how it sounded I Apologise. To elaborate on my last message there is notihing in the constiitution that I can see (and others) that deals with what happens when the founder monarch ends his/her service as monarch. Fro example there is nothing that legitimises the simple handover of power by the previous. I and other therefore believe that the Imperator act can solve that problem now and for the future when the next monarch eventually ends his/her reign. This would prevent this kind of crisis that has ground all normal Commons business to an abrupt halt. I had hoped to bring in a huge amount of legislation to improve the Regional experience but that has been put on hold until this gets solved. Again there is nothing stopping HRH the emperor from running for Imperator as a citizen of this Region.

Gwerncyned wrote:I have no issue with you leading the region at all and If that is how it sounded I Apologise. To elaborate on my last message there is notihing in the constiitution that I can see (and others) that deals with what happens when the founder monarch ends his/her service as monarch. Fro example there is nothing that legitimises the simple handover of power by the previous. I and other therefore believe that the Imperator act can solve that problem now and for the future when the next monarch eventually ends his/her reign. This would prevent this kind of crisis that has ground all normal Commons business to an abrupt halt. I had hoped to bring in a huge amount of legislation to improve the Regional experience but that has been put on hold until this gets solved. Again there is nothing stopping HRH the emperor from running for Imperator as a citizen of this Region.

Well, from what it seems, no one else has any issue with this except you two, and understands that, as Crown Prince, I am next in line to the throne. There would be no use for that title if this wasn't the case, however, like I said, in the end, the citizens shall have the last say, and I will not fight it if the Act is passed.

If the act is passed, I do not have any intention to run for Imperator -- it just wouldn't feel right. It is clear to me that some Nations do not want me as their head-of-state, and there is no point in running for something that some fought so hard, and lied so much to get you out of.

Should the House of Commons pass the Imperator Act, the Act will require Royal Assent.

Should Royal Assent be granted, a referendum shall be held for the people to appprove or disapprove of the amendment to the Constitution.

This is as per the Constitution.

Gwerncyned, Newtopian Britain

Commons Business

The House of Commons has unanimously passed ‘The Imperator Act 2019’ by a vote of 4-0.

In line with my responsibilities as Speaker of the House of Commons, I have sent the Act of Parliament to the Monarch.

The Monarch can either grant Royal Assent making the Act law or veto the Act and prevent it from becoming law.

Gwerncyned, Not-Brittania, Newtopian Britain

Any idea when well have a referendum so?

Gwerncyned

The Holy Brittannian Empire wrote:Any idea when well have a referendum so?

I believe it would be appropriate to give the Monarch a fair amount of time to consider whether or not he will grant Royal Assent.

Gwerncyned, Newtopian Britain

The Founding Father wrote:I believe it would be appropriate to give the Monarch a fair amount of time to consider whether or not he will grant Royal Assent.

I hate republicanism more than any man, but the role of the monarch is as a control on parliament, not on the people, as long as we the citizens get the final say on the Imperator bill, I think it should be sooner rather than later.

In any case, the idea that refusal of royal assent wouldnt end in forced abdication is a foolish one anyway.

Newtopian Britain

The Holy Brittannian Empire wrote:I hate republicanism more than any man, but the role of the monarch is as a control on parliament, not on the people, as long as we the citizens get the final say on the Imperator bill, I think it should be sooner rather than later.

In any case, the idea that refusal of royal assent wouldnt end in forced abdication is a foolish one anyway.

I has come to my understanding that the majority of Nations are in favor of the Imperator bill. I know I said I wouldn't fight the decision, but if you all would allow me just one more chance to try to convince you all why I believe we should continue with the way our government is, with a Monarchy, I would be very grateful.

All I'm asking is that you all give me one more chance to try and change your minds. What do you say?

The Holy Brittannian Empire, Newtopian Britain, Menorica

Saint Arsenio wrote:I has come to my understanding that the majority of Nations are in favor of the Imperator bill. I know I said I wouldn't fight the decision, but if you all would allow me just one more chance to try to convince you all why I believe we should continue with the way our government is, with a Monarchy, I would be very grateful.

All I'm asking is that you all give me one more chance to try and change your minds. What do you say?

You are absolutely within your right to argue for the continued existence of the Monarchy. However, it would be best to do so within the context of a campaign leading up to and during a referendum.

The House will not withdraw the passage of the Act. So you must either grant Royal Assent and we can form opposing campaigns for the referendum. Or you must veto the bill.

The decision is yours.

Gwerncyned, Not-Brittania, Newtopian Britain

Saint Arsenio wrote:I has come to my understanding that the majority of Nations are in favor of the Imperator bill. I know I said I wouldn't fight the decision, but if you all would allow me just one more chance to try to convince you all why I believe we should continue with the way our government is, with a Monarchy, I would be very grateful.

All I'm asking is that you all give me one more chance to try and change your minds. What do you say?

It seems to me that to some one chance is too much, before your ascension people where already clamoring for resignation. While I would be more cavalier than roundhead, I think the founding father is right in that such things would be better voted upon.

That said I dont think it right for Saint Arsenio to stand back from the running without the founding father also swearing off running for Imperator, should it come to that.

Newtopian Britain

The Holy Brittannian Empire wrote:It seems to me that to some one chance is too much, before your ascension people where already clamoring for resignation. While I would be more cavalier than roundhead, I think the founding father is right in that such things would be better voted upon.

That said I dont think it right for Saint Arsenio to stand back from the running without the founding father also swearing off running for Imperator, should it come to that.

I pledge that I will not be a candidate for the office of Imperator, should the office come into existence.

It is my intention to stand again for the House of Commons as the Member for Scotland. If re-elected as a parliamentarian, I will stand for the Speaker of the House once more.

The Holy Brittannian Empire, Lunayria, Not-Brittania, Newtopian Britain

I will be making a second attempt to pass my first bill through the house tomorrow. I hope we can carry on the business of the commons more smoothly now that we have a forum for it that wont be blocked.

The Founding Father, Newtopian Britain

I have granted Royal Assent to the Imperator bill. I hope that we may finally move on as a region, and go back to the way things were.

I wish the next Imperator the best of luck in their term, and I hope that he/she may bring prosperity to the Empire.

The Founding Father, Not-Brittania, Newtopian Britain, Menorica

Saint Arsenio wrote:I have granted Royal Assent to the Imperator bill. I hope that we may finally move on as a region, and go back to the way things were.

I wish the next Imperator the best of luck in their term, and I hope that he/she may bring prosperity to the Empire.

Thank you for granting Royal Assent.

However, a referendum must now be held in order for the citizens of the Empire to have their say on this proposed amendment to the Imperial Constitution.

The Prime Minister has agreed to oversee the referendum. I believe the vote need last no longer than five days.

Gwerncyned

To His Majesty Emperor Saint Arsenio:

Your Majesty, I would like for the region British Menorica Isles to return as a Overseas Territory, And to be listed next to Hong Kong Island on the regional board. When the United Provinces of Menorica was removed, Her Majesty The Queen-Empress Emeritus had removed the British Menorica Isles region as well. I would do it myself but i no longer have access to the World Factbook Entry. Your Majesty, I also have asked Promovian Islands to update the British Menorica Isles as well under your title as Emperor. Thank You, Your Majesty.

Menorican Royal Anthem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC88HeYvzAA

The Holy Brittannian Empire, Lunayria, Saint Arsenio

I have once again presented my bill to the house and hope that It can be passed smoothly.

The Founding Father, Newtopian Britain

If anyone has seen or is about to see Season 3 of The Crown i have got to say Olivia may be the greatest portrayal of The Real Queen, Even her "All"s are essentially correct. I have just started Season 3 so i'm not going to have any other says, Or give out spoilers of what happened.

Newtopian Britain

Menorica wrote:If anyone has seen or is about to see Season 3 of The Crown i have got to say Olivia may be the greatest portrayal of The Real Queen, Even her "All"s are essentially correct. I have just started Season 3 so i'm not going to have any other says, Or give out spoilers of what happened.

Dont quite know how you can spoil a series about historical events XD

Newtopian Britain, Menorica

I watched some of it when I had a Netflix subscription. It is really good. 10/10.

Newtopian Britain, Menorica

Gwerncyned wrote:Dont quite know how you can spoil a series about historical events XD

Yeah i already know that, but some people in here might like to stay uninformed about what happened in the show so that way they will be surprised when it happens.

Gwerncyned, Newtopian Britain, Saint Arsenio

Gwerncyned wrote:I have once again presented my bill to the house and hope that It can be passed smoothly.

I invite Right Honourable Members of the House to review the Bill within the next twenty-four hours. A motion for a vote will be called there after.

Colfax County, Newtopian Britain

Passage of the Imperator Act 2019

The First Amendment to the Imperial Constitution, the Imperator Act 2019, has been approved by a referendum of citizens. The final vote was six for and one against, with a single vote deemed invalid.

The office of Imperator will replace the existing Monarch as head of state. A Special Election will be held in due course to elect the inaugural Imperator.

I believe the current Emperor should remain in place until the first elected Imperator is inaugurated into office. This would ensure security and continuity for the region in the interim.

Sincerely,

The Founding Father

Colfax County, Gwerncyned, Not-Brittania, Newtopian Britain

The Founding Father wrote:I invite Right Honourable Members of the House to review the Bill within the next twenty-four hours. A motion for a vote will be called there after.

I will motion for this Bill to be called to a vote. The parliamentary term ends soon and we must move fast to ensure the productivity of this session.

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=473746&p=36459459#p36459459

The Founding Father, Newtopian Britain

Colfax County wrote:I will motion for this Bill to be called to a vote. The parliamentary term ends soon and we must move fast to ensure the productivity of this session.

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=473746&p=36459459#p36459459

Agreed I have multiple bills ready that are essential for optional RP and the functioning of our democracy.

The Founding Father, Colfax County, The Holy Brittannian Empire, Newtopian Britain

Gwerncyned wrote:Agreed I have multiple bills ready that are essential for optional RP and the functioning of our democracy.

Will a Right Honourable Member of the House second the Foreign Secretary’s motion so we can proceed to a vote?

Colfax County

Remarks on the Passage of the Amendment

This year has been a tumultuous time for our Empire. Our stability has constantly been under threat. Our comradery has constantly been undermined. However, with the passage of the amendment to the Consitutiton, I believe we can restore hope to the Empire in the year ahead.

Every nation has a part to play in our future. Let us draw a line under past divisions and forgot long-fought battles which can only serve to weaken our sense of community. The time has now come for us to pull together and move forward together.

Yes, we will have our disagreements. Yes, we will have opposing points of view on future issues. But that is the right of every citizen within this Empire. That’s the beautiful nature of freedom. That’s the strength of the democracy we choose to practice.

I do not have political enemies. Only opponents. I respect my political opponents and I respect their right to hold views which are opposed to my own. I will not vilify them or cast them in the role of traitor. No one should mistake political argument for personal attack. No one should mistake political belief for personal agenda.

I appreciate the opportunity to share these thoughts.

Colfax County, Not-Brittania

The Founding Father wrote:Remarks on the Passage of the Amendment

This year has been a tumultuous time for our Empire. Our stability has constantly been under threat. Our comradery has constantly been undermined. However, with the passage of the amendment to the Consitutiton, I believe we can restore hope to the Empire in the year ahead.

Every nation has a part to play in our future. Let us draw a line under past divisions and forgot long-fought battles which can only serve to weaken our sense of community. The time has now come for us to pull together and move forward together.

Yes, we will have our disagreements. Yes, we will have opposing points of view on future issues. But that is the right of every citizen within this Empire. That’s the beautiful nature of freedom. That’s the strength of the democracy we choose to practice.

I do not have political enemies. Only opponents. I respect my political opponents and I respect their right to hold views which are opposed to my own. I will not vilify them or cast them in the role of traitor. No one should mistake political argument for personal attack. No one should mistake political belief for personal agenda.

I appreciate the opportunity to share these thoughts.

Agreed. Our empire can easily recover from the divisions in time. We have a strong and dedicated community in this region. From my own short time here I have seen how welcoming everyone is, to the point at which i am now bringing forward large bills that will benefit the whole region. I thank the Speaker for airing his thoughts on the matter and emphasizing that we can and should move forward as one. Bring on the new year and decade!

The Founding Father, Not-Brittania

Election of the Imperator

The inaugural election of the Imperator will now proceed, as per the amendment to the Imperial Constitution. Candidates must be a WA member and have resided within the Empire for forty-two days prior to registration to be eligible to run.

Due to the vacancies in the Supreme Court, the Home Office will review candidate registrations and conduct the election poll. Candidates should publicly declare their intention to run and await confirmation of their candidacy from Menorica.

Election Timetable

Candidate Registration:

Monday 25th November - Wednesday 27th November 2019

Special Election:

Thursday 28th November - Sunday 1st

December 2019

Inauguration:

Tuesday 3rd December 2019

This is a special election to elect the Imperator until the expiration of the term on Wednesday 1st January 2020. Any candidate elected to this term will be eligible to serve two further consecutive terms.

Sincerely,

The Founding Father

Speaker of the House of Commons

Menorica

For future references, Would it be possible for the Empire of Great Britain to establish a in-region-only British Commonwealth? (Whereas the British Commonwealth operates only inside the region and not as a separate region, A list (Factbook or Dispatch) pinned on nations part of the British Commonwealth). Since our Democracy is progressively changing, I just thought about that pro-democracy move that i hope would have make it into regional politics if you all do agree. I do have a setup example on how it would work out, planned:

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Title: " British Commonwealth of Nations " - Refounded DD/MM/YY

Founder: The Example of Example

Head: King-Emperor/Queen-Empress To Be Named

Secretary-General: To Be Named

Chair-In-Office: To Be Named

Description: (WIKIPEDIA) - The Commonwealth of Nations, generally known simply as the Commonwealth, is a political association of [Number Order] member states, nearly all of them (Historical Past Rule). The chief institutions of the organisation are the Commonwealth Secretariat, which focuses on intergovernmental aspects, and the Commonwealth Foundation, which focuses on non-governmental relations between member states.

Number: 1. Name: The Example of Example

Number: 2. Name: The Example of Example

Number: 3. Name: The Example of Example

Number: 4. Name: The Example of Example

Number: 5. Name: The Example of Example

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Flag:

(Posted Here, Medium-Sized)

MAP OF THE COMMONWEALTH:

(Shows Map Of The Commonwealth Here)

Classification: (Shown Here)

Civil Population Upon Verified Membership: (Shown Here)

Commonwealth Anthem: "God Save The King/Queen"

(showing link for accompaniment: i.e https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ziSALssC5M

The Holy Brittannian Empire

Menorica wrote:For future references, Would it be possible for the Empire of Great Britain to establish a in-region-only British Commonwealth? (Whereas the British Commonwealth operates only inside the region and not as a separate region, A list (Factbook or Dispatch) pinned on nations part of the British Commonwealth). Since our Democracy is progressively changing, I just thought about that pro-democracy move that i hope would have make it into regional politics after the Imperator has been inaugurated if you all do agree. I do have a setup example on how it would work out, planned:

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Title: " British Commonwealth of Nations " - Refounded DD/MM/YY

Founder: The Example of Example

Head: King-Emperor/Queen-Empress To Be Named

Secretary-General: To Be Named

Chair-In-Office: To Be Named

Description: (WIKIPEDIA) - The Commonwealth of Nations, generally known simply as the Commonwealth, is a political association of [Number Order] member states, nearly all of them (Historical Past Rule). The chief institutions of the organisation are the Commonwealth Secretariat, which focuses on intergovernmental aspects, and the Commonwealth Foundation, which focuses on non-governmental relations between member states.

Number: 1. Name: The Example of Example

Number: 2. Name: The Example of Example

Number: 3. Name: The Example of Example

Number: 4. Name: The Example of Example

Number: 5. Name: The Example of Example

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Flag:

(Posted Here, Medium-Sized)

MAP OF THE COMMONWEALTH:

(Shows Map Of The Commonwealth Here)

Classification: (Shown Here)

Civil Population Upon Verified Membership: (Shown Here)

Commonwealth Anthem: "God Save The King/Queen"

(showing link for accompaniment: i.e https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ziSALssC5M

Sounds like a really interesting concept actually, I look forward to it

House Vote Scheduled

Standardisation Bill

Vote Start: 8:00 PM GMT 25/11/2019

Vote End: 8:00 PM GMT 27/11/2019

The Right Honourable Members Gwerncyned, Newtopian Britain and Colfax County have forty-eight hours to vote on the Bill.

Sincerely,

The Founding Father

Speaker of the House of Commons

Colfax County, Gwerncyned, Menorica

Endorsement of Imperator Candidate

It is my great honour to recommend our current World Assembly Delegate Lunayria for the office of Imperator.

His record as a Secretary of State within various Governments is a testament to how highly regarded he is within the region. I believe the Secretary is an upstanding citizen who would set a formidable example for those wishing to seek the office in the future.

Should the Secretary formally announce his candidacy, he will have my full support and endorsement.

Thank you,

Colfax County

Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs

The Founding Father, Saint Arsenio

Colfax County wrote:Endorsement of Imperator Candidate

It is my great honour to recommend our current World Assembly Delegate Lunayria for the office of Imperator.

His record as a Secretary of State within various Governments is a testament to how highly regarded he is within the region. I believe the Secretary is an upstanding citizen who would set a formidable example for those wishing to seek the office in the future.

Should the Secretary formally announce his candidacy, he will have my full support and endorsement.

Thank you,

Colfax County

Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs

I too support the Secretary for the office of Imperator and encourage him to declare his candidacy as soon as possible!

The Founding Father wrote:House Vote Scheduled

Standardisation Bill

Vote Start: 8:00 PM GMT 25/11/2019

Vote End: 8:00 PM GMT 27/11/2019

The Right Honourable Members Gwerncyned, Newtopian Britain and Colfax County have forty-eight hours to vote on the Bill.

Sincerely,

The Founding Father

Speaker of the House of Commons

The vote is finished. The House has passed the Bill with a vote of 3 Ayes and 0 Nays.

I just want to point out to all of you as a reminder:

The Founding Father wrote:

Due to the vacancies in the Supreme Court, the Home Office will review candidate registrations and conduct the election poll. Candidates should publicly declare their intention to run and await confirmation of their candidacy from Menorica.

why are we a republic!

The Holy Brittannian Empire, Menorica

Post self-deleted by Menorica.

I would love to have continued to with the government we had before this change, however, the citizens spoke.

I believe it would have been easier to continue with what we had going.

Post self-deleted by Crazyli.

our region is the 'empire' of great britain!

Menorica

Crazyli wrote:our region is the 'empire' of great britain!

As pro-Monarchy as i am, I think a Constitutional Republic would be a best option for this region. Her Majesty The Queen-Empress Emeritus incidentally kicked me and His Majesty out of the region without looking into proof of what actually happened, Fled the region upon our initial return, His Majesty being proclaimed Emperor which caused direct confusion to the Empire and the region; Confusion for the future of the Monarchy causing a disagreement in the region, Which lead to our attention Today to put the Imperator system into act. The Imperator system is the ONLY system that could save this region. As much as i would feel to have a bloodline Monarchy for this region, I would rather prefer a Republic Monarchy than to see this region officially fall right before my own eyes. The United Provinces of Menorica was a Constitutional Republic once before, So it definitely doesn't mind to be part of a regional Constitutional Republic. We are sorry but this is the only thing that can keep the region from falling. Republics often save the future of it's country rather than let it fall. There are PLENTY of other British-themed regions with a bloodline Monarchy out there if you may not have faith in this region anymore. But just to warn you this one is the most to stay on topic. Most of the others treat their RMB like Comments or Off-Topics instead of about Business and Roleplay.

The Founding Father

Crazyli wrote:why are we a republic!

Because none of you voted. It breezed through on a vote with only me opposing.

Menorica wrote:As pro-Monarchy as i am, I think a Constitutional Republic would be a best option for this region. Her Majesty The Queen Emeritus incidentally kicked me and His Majesty out of the region without looking into proof of what actually happened, Fled the region upon our initial return, His Majesty being proclaimed Emperor which caused direct confusion to the Empire and the region; Confusion from the future of the Monarchy causing a disagreement in the region, Which lead to our attention Today to put the Imperator system into act. The Imperator system is the ONLY system that could save this region. As much as i would feel to have a bloodline Monarchy for this region, I would rather prefer a Republic Monarchy than to see this region officially fall right before my own eyes. The United Provinces of Menorica was a Constitutional Republic once before, So it definitely doesn't mind to be part of a regional Constitutional Republic. We are sorry but this is the only thing that can keep the region from falling. Republics often save the future of it's country rather than let it fall. There are PLENTY of other British-themed regions out there if you may not have faith in this region anymore.

And how exactly was anything falling apart? Nothing has changed except a lot more political division and more political machinations than ever before. Democracy at its finest!

Saint Arsenio, Crazyli

I am assuming that as it is now the 2nd, that a new house of commons will be elected after we have our first Imperator? If so I am assuming that the commons is officially prorogued until then?

The Founding Father, Newtopian Britain

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The Holy Brittannian Empire wrote:Because none of you voted. It breezed through on a vote with only me opposing.

And how exactly was anything falling apart? Nothing has changed except a lot more political division and more political machinations than ever before. Democracy at its finest!

well no one voted because we should always be a monarchy!!!!!

Saint Arsenio

Post self-deleted by Crazyli.

Gwerncyned wrote:I am assuming that as it is now the 2nd, that a new house of commons will be elected after we have our first Imperator? If so I am assuming that the commons is officially prorogued until then?

That is what I was assuming

The Founding Father

Crazyli wrote:why are we a republic!

The citizenry of the Empire choose by an overwhelming margin to abolish the monarchy and establish a republic with an elected Imperator as head of state.

Crazyli wrote:@well no one voted because we should always be a monarchy!!!!!

Correction. Numerous citizens voted.

Gwerncyned wrote:I am assuming that as it is now the 2nd, that a new house of commons will be elected after we have our first Imperator? If so I am assuming that the commons is officially prorogued until then?

Yes. The Autumn Session of the House is now closed. Elections shall be held to elect new Members for the Winter Session (Dec-Feb).

Crazyli wrote:@well no one voted because we should always be a monarchy!!!!!

Wrong choice, you chose not to vote in a democratic election to undermine the state.

That said for a constitutional change of such magnitude I would have expected the vote to necessitate a wider vote of more nations including telegrams to all active nations, not a poll that was up for two days

Saint Arsenio, Menorica, Crazyli

The Holy Brittannian Empire wrote:Wrong choice, you chose not to vote in a democratic election to undermine the state.

That said for a constitutional change of such magnitude I would have expected the vote to necessitate a wider vote of more nations including telegrams to all active nations, not a poll that was up for two days

Firstly, the referendum poll ran for five days.

Secondly, the consitutional amendment was a topic of public discussion amongst numerous active citizens for weeks prior to the referendum.

Lunayria

Election for Imperator

The Home Secretary has confirmed that no citizen has registered their candidacy for the office of Imperator with the Home Office. Therefore, a special election for the office cannot currently proceed.

However, the elections for the next session of the House of Commons must proceed without delay. I believe we should postpone the special election for Imperator in order to prioritise the new session of our legislative body

Under the Imperator Act, as Speaker of the House of Commons I can assume the office of Acting Imperator three weeks prior to a scheduled election should the office be vacant. The next scheduled election for Imperator is Wednesday 1st January 2020.

I believe the Emperor should continue to serve as head of state until Wednesday 11th December. I will then assume the role of Acting Imperator until the election of a permanent occupier of the office three weeks later.

I ask the Prime Minister and Cabinet to grant their approval of this plan in order to avoid gridlock within the Empire.

Sincerely,

The Founding Father

Gwerncyned, Lunayria, Menorica

This reveals a huge flaw in your plan.

If we had remained a Monarchy, things would have ran smoothly, and there would be no need for this.

This is what I was attempting to warn you all about. I tried, but you either didn't listen, or didn't care to listen. What we had going was fine, and I saw no reason to change it, but this is what you all wanted.

The Holy Brittannian Empire, Newtopian Britain, Menorica, Crazyli

Saint Arsenio wrote:This reveals a huge flaw in your plan.

If we had remained a Monarchy, things would have ran smoothly, and there would be no need for this.

This is what I was attempting to warn you all about. I tried, but you either didn't listen, or didn't care to listen. What we had going was fine, and I saw no reason to change it, but this is what you all wanted.

It’s natural to expect any transition from an unelected monarchy to a constitutional republic to have certain challenges. However, I am confident we will overcome any hurdles together in time.

Let it be noted. There is nothing currently preventing you from running for the office of Imperator. You could be legitimately elected as a head of state.

Lunayria, Not-Brittania, Menorica

The Founding Father wrote:

However, the elections for the next session of the House of Commons must proceed without delay. I believe we should postpone the special election for Imperator in order to prioritise the new session of our legislative body

When it does come back around, I have a Patriotic suggestion, Making one of the most greatest Patriotic performances of all time the Unofficial Imperial And Regional Anthem, "Rule Britannia"

https://youtu.be/m-e_1Njcwzw?t=50

Saint Arsenio

The Founding Father wrote:Election for Imperator

The Home Secretary has confirmed that no citizen has registered their candidacy for the office of Imperator with the Home Office. Therefore, a special election for the office cannot currently proceed.

However, the elections for the next session of the House of Commons must proceed without delay. I believe we should postpone the special election for Imperator in order to prioritise the new session of our legislative body

Under the Imperator Act, as Speaker of the House of Commons I can assume the office of Acting Imperator three weeks prior to a scheduled election should the office be vacant. The next scheduled election for Imperator is Wednesday 1st January 2020.

I believe the Emperor should continue to serve as head of state until Wednesday 11th December. I will then assume the role of Acting Imperator until the election of a permanent occupier of the office three weeks later.

I ask the Prime Minister and Cabinet to grant their approval of this plan in order to avoid gridlock within the Empire.

Sincerely,

The Founding Father

Fine then, I put myself forward as Imperator and urge any likeminded monarchist to do so. I will not see this power fall to the PM because no one will say anything

Lunayria, Saint Arsenio, Menorica, Crazyli

The New Menorican Flag fits best for Menorica, Will be a keep for quite awhile now.

The Holy Brittannian Empire wrote:Fine then, I put myself forward as Imperator and urge any likeminded monarchist to do so. I will not see this power fall to the PM because no one will say anything

Very well then. Despite what I've previously said, and my disliking of this system, I too, shall announce my candidacy for Imperator.

The Holy Brittannian Empire, Lunayria, Menorica

Greetings,

I Lunayria, War secretary, hereby announce my candidacy for the position of Imperator in the upcoming January 1st 2020 elections.

I wish all other candidates good luck.

Happy Holidays to all,

Lunayria

Not-Brittania, Saint Arsenio, Menorica

Now officially the BEST Roleplay Flag Waving Website EVER!! You can now control how YOU wave your flag!!

https://krikienoid.github.io/flagwaver/ (NOT HARMFUL! The link is COMPLETELY safe.)

Saint Arsenio

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