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Post self-deleted by Speranzist.

Speranzist wrote:Space Command(Pilots and navigation lead)

Engineering Lead(Decides layouts, design and structure of ship)

Maintenance team: (Repair team for the ship kinda similar to the top)

HealthCare and Ethical team:(medics and HR team)

Internal Security:(Guards and security of the ship)

Defence systems:(Who makes and is commanding weapons of the ship)

Nessacities:(food dep, religious dep, etc)

choose one you are specialized at

Post self-deleted by Orlovckaya.

Speranzist wrote:Space Command(Pilots and navigation lead)

Engineering Lead(Decides layouts, design and structure of ship)

Maintenance team: (Repair team for the ship kinda similar to the top)

HealthCare and Ethical team:(medics and HR team)

Internal Security:(Guards and security of the ship)

Defence systems:(Who makes and is commanding weapons of the ship)

Nessacities:(food dep, religious dep, etc)

Gonna go out on a limb here and say Lunayria probably shouldn't be the HR rep...

Speranzist

Lunayria wrote:Gonna go out on a limb here and say Lunayria probably shouldn't be the HR rep...

haha same since we sacrifice non-believers a lot

Lunayria wrote:Gonna go out on a limb here and say Lunayria probably shouldn't be the HR rep...

i think you would be a good lead for the defense or security as most of your budget is defense

Speranzist wrote:Space Command(Pilots and navigation lead)

Engineering Lead(Decides layouts, design and structure of ship)

Maintenance team: (Repair team for the ship kinda similar to the top)

HealthCare and Ethical team:(medics and HR team)

Internal Security:(Guards and security of the ship)

Defence systems:(Who makes and is commanding weapons of the ship)

Nessacities:(food dep, religious dep, etc)

The third.This is logical. It's made according to my drawings.

there will be more roles such as Research team and Scientific-Military team and some more...

ill type em out soon

Orlovckaya wrote:The third.

btw you can choose more than one and by default if you want you can be Engineering lead since you started the ship the first

the Administrator will check the ranks and decide if its good and if not we listen to the reason and vote or have a meeting

Post self-deleted by Orlovckaya.

Orlovckaya wrote:As I understand it, you can choose more than one option?

yes but British Andorra will have to confirm it

Speranzist wrote:i think you would be a good lead for the defense or security as most of your budget is defense

We don't mind making the weapons systems for the station and its personnel, we just don't want to be in command currently, we've got other projects that are demanding a lot of attention. So if there was an Armourer/Gunsmith position we'd gladly fill that in an instant.

Orlovckaya

Speranzist wrote:btw you can choose more than one and by default if you want you can be Engineering lead since you started the ship the first

If possible, I won't mind.

Speranzist

Orlovckaya wrote:Calmly.

GUNs

GIVE ME!

Lunayria wrote:We don't mind making the weapons systems for the station and its personnel, we just don't want to be in command currently, we've got other projects that are demanding a lot of attention. So if there was an Armourer/Gunsmith position we'd gladly fill that in an instant.

is it possible for you to manufacture other items like medical supplies?

NEWS: Deushtflein Is Now In An Era Of Mass Production.

Deushtflein wrote:GUNs

GIVE ME!

If necessary. Then I'll drop a nuclear bomb, if you catch it, it's yours.

Deushtflein wrote:NEWS: Deushtflein Is Now In An Era Of Mass Production.

Remember the treaty...

Orlovckaya wrote:If necessary. Then I'll drop a nuclear bomb, if you catch it, it's yours.

too tired for a war

Orlovckaya

Speranzist wrote:is it possible for you to manufacture other items like medical supplies?

Yes, though if other nations require specialised items we'll need to know how to make them.

Orlovckaya wrote:If necessary. Then I'll drop a nuclear bomb, if you catch it, it's yours.

That's too funny...

Orlovckaya, Speranzist

Speranzist wrote:btw you can choose more than one and by default if you want you can be Engineering lead since you started the ship the first

I would like to join the space command. My pilots, thank God, have learned to control the explored parts of the station.It 's really not easy to control them , even AI slows them down . The training took about 2 years and 9 months, and this is just practice. And the theory is still such a long time.

Space Command(Pilots and navigation lead)

Engineering Lead(Decides layouts, design and structure of ship)

Maintenance team: (Repair team for the ship kinda similar to the top)

HealthCare and Ethical team:(medics and HR team)

Internal Security:(Guards and security of the ship)

Defence systems:(Who creates the weapons defence weapons on the ship)

Nessacities Aid:(food dep, religious dep, etc)

Manufacturing team:(making the stuff needed)

Research Department:(Scientific team which researches inside the ship)

Military STeam:(Scientific military team which researches inside the ship)

Astronaut:(sent out to the field for scientific purposes)

A-TaskForce(sent out to the field for Miliary purposes, Offensive and defensive)

<<selected>>

-Engineering Lead: Orlovckaya

-Maintenance Team: Orlovckaya

-Defensive systems: Lunayria(manufacturing)

Lunayria, Allynthia

Orlovckaya wrote:I would like to join the space command. My pilots, thank God, have learned to control the explored parts of the station.

i feel like we should wait for nations to be online first

Speranzist wrote:i feel like we should wait for nations to be online first

yes

Speranzist wrote:Space Command(Pilots and navigation lead)

Engineering Lead(Decides layouts, design and structure of ship)

Maintenance team: (Repair team for the ship kinda similar to the top)

HealthCare and Ethical team:(medics and HR team)

Internal Security:(Guards and security of the ship)

Defence systems:(Who creates the weapons defence weapons on the ship)

Nessacities Aid:(food dep, religious dep, etc)

Manufacturing team:(making the stuff needed)

Research Department:(Scientific team which researches inside the ship)

Military STeam:(Scientific military team which researches inside the ship)

Astronaut:(sent out to the field for scientific purposes)

A-TaskForce(sent out to the field for Miliary purposes, Offensive and defensive)

<<selected>>

-Engineering Lead: Orlovckaya

-Maintenance Team: Orlovckaya

-Defensive systems: Lunayria(manufacturing)

Cool, seeing that you asked us about medical equipment, are you wanting us to just focus on Arms and Medical supplies? Or do you want us to branch out and just manufacture the stuff needed?

Also if possible could we join the Military STeam as well? I get the feeling most nations will wish to be apart of this.

Speranzist wrote:i feel like we should wait for nations to be online first

Indeed, though I don't think there's anything wrong with multiple nations assigned to one task as I mentioned above. If anything it should make things easier.

Orlovckaya

Lunayria wrote:Cool, seeing that you asked us about medical equipment, are you wanting us to just focus on Arms and Medical supplies? Or do you want us to branch out and just manufacture the stuff needed?

Also if possible could we join the Military STeam as well? I get the feeling most nations will wish to be apart of this.

Indeed, though I don't think there's anything wrong with multiple nations assigned to one task as I mentioned above. If anything it should make things easier.

The nations can create Coalitions and if they do i will write multiple nations in the section

and for the manufacturing part military-medical will do for now unless you want to make more things

Mother Asia

Speranzist wrote:The nations can create Coalitions and if they do i will write multiple nations in the section

and for the manufacturing part military-medical will do for now unless you want to make more things

Military and Medical supplies will do for now. If needed we can always branch out later.

Mother Asia, Speranzist

Speranzist wrote:The nations can create Coalitions and if they do i will write multiple nations in the section

and for the manufacturing part military-medical will do for now unless you want to make more things

And as for the mini-suns, there is no need to create new ones yet . I was informed that, according to the plans, they will last for a long time.

Orlovckaya wrote:If necessary. Then I'll drop a nuclear bomb, if you catch it, it's yours.

Please DonÂ’tÂ

Orlovckaya

Post self-deleted by Orlovckaya.

When Is The First Game Of The British Sports League Gonna Be?

Deushtflein wrote:When Is The First Game Of The British Sports League Gonna Be?

No idea, still have no clue which sport is actually gonna be played...

Lunayria wrote:No idea, still have no clue which sport is actually gonna be played...

How AboutÂ….American Football. That Way ItÂ’s VERY Competitive.

Deushtflein wrote:How AboutÂ….American Football. That Way ItÂ’s VERY Competitive.

Too American, I suggest Rugby instead or cricket.

Jewish Sealand, Allynthia, Speranzist, Old Wetherport

Nihppon wrote:Too American, I suggest Rugby instead or cricket.

Rugby Then.

Allynthia

Lunayria wrote:What is this a world cup of?

Football (aka soccer) or Olympics

Jewish Sealand

Lunayria wrote:This is an acceptable compromise.

Mother Asia accepts!

Mother Asia wrote:Football (aka soccer) or Olympics

YESS ARGENTINA LOVES FOOTBALL!!

we can do both surely?

Mother Asia

Lunayria wrote:Military and Medical supplies will do for now. If needed we can always branch out later.

Hmm okay I Suppose can Mother Asia send her spaceship 🚀 as well to the moon?

We have 2 already but want 1 more for our own interests.

Speranzist wrote:The nations can create Coalitions and if they do i will write multiple nations in the section

and for the manufacturing part military-medical will do for now unless you want to make more things

IÂ’m still very much confused on why you guys need a new space station when you guys already have one?

Unless, IÂ’m looking at this wrong help me understand. My vote is gonna be neutral for this one.

Mother Asia wrote:IÂ’m still very much confused on why you guys need a new space station when you guys already have one?

Unless, IÂ’m looking at this wrong help me understand. My vote is gonna be neutral for this one.

There isn't a BDA space station built yet. One is under construction while the other is still in the proposal stage.

One is to be a military installation while the other will be purely for scientific research. To be honest, we really need a factbook on this matter, it's becoming a pain to constantly go back through the messages.

Mother Asia, Speranzist

Nihppon wrote:Too American, I suggest Rugby instead or cricket.

I 100% agree woth rugby (mainly cus I play it irl lol)

Nihppon, Allynthia, Speranzist

it can be more than one sport i suppose football and rugby are my top picks

Nihppon

Speranzist wrote:it can be more than one sport i suppose football and rugby are my top picks

Right.

Speranzist wrote:it can be more than one sport i suppose football and rugby are my top picks

I agreed, football (soccer), cricket and rugby are my picks

Mother Asia

Voting has now concluded.

It is official! OrlovckayaÂ’s space station been voted in.

Mother Asia, Hm Queen Elizabeth Iii, Nihppon, Orlovckaya, Allynthia, Speranzist

British Andorra wrote:Voting has now concluded.

It is official! OrlovckayaÂ’s space station been voted in.

Congratulations!

British Andorra

Mother Asia wants to fund the space station then. We would also like to be the overview person on it.

We will fund 15trillionUSD for the space programÂ…Â

Lunayria wrote:There isn't a BDA space station built yet. One is under construction while the other is still in the proposal stage.

One is to be a military installation while the other will be purely for scientific research. To be honest, we really need a factbook on this matter, it's becoming a pain to constantly go back through the messages.

Agreed. Shall I work on it?

Speranzist

Speranzist wrote:The nations can create Coalitions and if they do i will write multiple nations in the section

and for the manufacturing part military-medical will do for now unless you want to make more things

Interesting can we join?

Speranzist

Wow Economic growth in BDA is a stunning 12.9% everyone.

This is good for our goals and future of the BDA countries.

Speranzist

British Andorra wrote:Voting has now concluded.

It is official! OrlovckayaÂ’s space station been voted in.

The work will be in full swing. Today it is planned to deliver all the remaining blocks for the first research station - 18 blocks.

Speranzist

Speranzist, Nihppon, Allynthia, British Andorra, Lunayria ,Sublime State, The Kingdom Of Gondor, Mother Asia

The first convocation of the International Board of Directors for Space and the Omega-1 Station will take place today. We will resolve all issues and adjust our actions. Presence is desirable. Just one question, at what time is it best to hold a meeting?

Mother Asia, Nihppon, Sublime State, British Andorra, Allynthia, Speranzist

Orlovckaya wrote:Speranzist, Nihppon, Allynthia, British Andorra, Lunayria ,Sublime State, The Kingdom Of Gondor, Mother Asia

The first convocation of the International Board of Directors for Space and the Omega-1 Station will take place today. We will resolve all issues and adjust our actions. Presence is desirable. Just one question, at what time is it best to hold a meeting?

Well, it's actually midnight in real life for me, so I propose we hold the meeting later, say in 12 hours?

Mother Asia, Sublime State, Orlovckaya

Nihppon wrote:Well, it's actually midnight in real life for me, so I propose we hold the meeting later, say in 12 hours?

Well 12h later will be around 6 AM in my time zone.

So maybe 16 hours later at best?

Mother Asia, Nihppon

Happy December to you all!!

Menorica, Mother Asia, Civaliana, Sublime State, Jewish Sealand, Orlovckaya, British Andorra, Allynthia, Speranzist, Deushtflein, Exitium

Hm Queen Elizabeth Iii wrote:Happy December to you all!!

Thank you! Happy December to you also!

Mother Asia, Jewish Sealand, Speranzist

Mother Asia wrote:Mother Asia wants to fund the space station then. We would also like to be the overview person on it.

We will fund 15trillionUSD for the space programÂ…Â

Agreed. Shall I work on it?

Yes! follow Orlovckayas design and your good

And Speranzist will now fund 10 trillion Pounds to this project.

Mother Asia

Hm Queen Elizabeth Iii wrote:Happy December to you all!!

Thank You!

Mother Asia

Out rp* This is just to let you know that I might not be online tommorow. The reason why is because I have surgery. Also, I have to get up at 4:00 AM Central Time.

Mother Asia, Sublime State, Allynthia, Speranzist

Deushtflein wrote:Out rp* This is just to let you know that I might not be online tommorow. The reason why is because I have surgery. Also, I have to get up at 4:00 AM Central Time.

WIsh you the best of luck mate

Jewish Sealand

History In The Making Once Again

IRL: His Majesty King Charles III (previously The Prince Charles, Prince of Wales)

A Royal New Beginning Has Officially Begun!

For the first time in 70 Years, The Crown Of A British King has been unveiled. A Royal Proclamation, Made on Social Media by The Royal Family, has confirmed His Majesty King Charles III will wear the male-apparent St. Edward's Crown, Sadly discontinuing the iconic Imperial State Crown that most of modern British Society, as well as Canadian, American, Australian societies have witnessed since 1953. Her Majesty The Queen's Imperial State Crown was respectfully removed from her platform and the 'Wand of Office' broken to officially declare the Queen Elizabeth II a former monarch. This moment was the very last time we would ever see the most elegant very famous Crown in the world, ever. Though unveiled this weekend, We won't see this crown until the next Female Monarch. We may most-likely not get to fully see His Majesty wear his new crown until his Coronation in Early-Mid 2023. When he is crowned, He will officially walk into Kingship as officially the OLDEST King to ever reign. The St. Edward's Crown is very beautiful, And now the crown symbols will finally be given a statement on which one is a Male Crown or a Female Crown. The Imperial State Crown has been displayed so many times since 1953 that it's now enshrined in what a British Crown (in a symbol) looks like. As the world waves goodbye to 2022 and say Hello to 2023, We shall reflect 2022 and think about the last time we saw Queen Elizabeth II and what the world meant to her during her Platinum Jubilee. The most amazing mother, grandmother, great-grandmother, and Queen, was for the first time seen in tears of joy, Queen Elizabeth II was human, And King Charles III by these 3 months have already been a wonderful Monarch! It is also confirmed that His Majesty will continue the most blessing event of Her Majesty The Queen; THE CHRISTMAS DAY LIVE ROYAL BROADCAST.

God Save King Charles III, SON of Queen Elizabeth II !!

"God save the King"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CX8pfS9QFo

Mother Asia, Sublime State, British Andorra, Speranzist

Speranzist wrote:Space Command(Pilots and navigation lead)

Engineering Lead(Decides layouts, design and structure of ship)

Maintenance team: (Repair team for the ship kinda similar to the top)

HealthCare and Ethical team:(medics and HR team)

Internal Security:(Guards and security of the ship)

Defence systems:(Who creates the weapons defence weapons on the ship)

Nessacities Aid:(food dep, religious dep, etc)

Manufacturing team:(making the stuff needed)

Research Department:(Scientific team which researches inside the ship)

Military STeam:(Scientific military team which researches inside the ship)

Astronaut:(sent out to the field for scientific purposes)

A-TaskForce(sent out to the field for Miliary purposes, Offensive and defensive)

<<selected>>

-Engineering Lead: Orlovckaya

-Maintenance Team: Orlovckaya

-Defensive systems: Lunayria(manufacturing)

We can handle the HealthCare and Ethical team as well as the Nessacities Aid area.

For the moment, we shall allocate 250 Billion Golden Drachmas ( around 800 billion pounds) on cash and it will be increased later on and this is ONLY considering the monetary funding and not the assets and other physical assets provided as well as the facilities and personnel.

Mother Asia, Orlovckaya, Speranzist

Allynthia wrote:WIsh you the best of luck mate

Thanks.

Mother Asia, Sublime State, Allynthia

Allynthia wrote:We can handle the HealthCare and Ethical team as well as the Nessacities Aid area.

For the moment, we shall allocate 250 Billion Golden Drachmas ( around 800 billion pounds) on cash and it will be increased later on and this is ONLY considering the monetary funding and not the assets and other physical assets provided as well as the facilities and personnel.

Can we send/create a coalition for the religious part of it?

Deushtflein wrote:Thanks.

Hope it goes well

Mother Asia, Allynthia

Menorica wrote:History In The Making Once Again

IRL: His Majesty King Charles III (previously The Prince Charles, Prince of Wales)

A Royal New Beginning Has Officially Begun!

For the first time in 70 Years, The Crown Of A British King has been unveiled. A Royal Proclamation, Made on Social Media by The Royal Family, has confirmed His Majesty King Charles III will wear the male-apparent St. Edward's Crown, Sadly discontinuing the iconic Imperial State Crown that most of modern British Society, as well as Canadian, American, Australian societies have witnessed since 1953. Her Majesty The Queen's Imperial State Crown was respectfully removed from her platform and the 'Wand of Office' broken to officially declare the Queen Elizabeth II a former monarch. This moment was the very last time we would ever see the most elegant very famous Crown in the world, ever. Though unveiled this weekend, We won't see this crown until the next Female Monarch. We may most-likely not get to fully see His Majesty wear his new crown until his Coronation in Early-Mid 2023. When he is crowned, He will officially walk into Kingship as officially the OLDEST King to ever reign. The St. Edward's Crown is very beautiful, And now the crown symbols will finally be given a statement on which one is a Male Crown or a Female Crown. The Imperial State Crown has been displayed so many times since 1953 that it's now enshrined in what a British Crown (in a symbol) looks like. As the world waves goodbye to 2022 and say Hello to 2023, We shall reflect 2022 and think about the last time we saw Queen Elizabeth II and what the world meant to her during her Platinum Jubilee. The most amazing mother, grandmother, great-grandmother, and Queen, was for the first time seen in tears of joy, Queen Elizabeth II was human, And King Charles III by these 3 months have already been a wonderful Monarch! It is also confirmed that His Majesty will continue the most blessing event of Her Majesty The Queen; THE CHRISTMAS DAY LIVE ROYAL BROADCAST.

God Save King Charles III, SON of Queen Elizabeth II !!

"God save the King"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CX8pfS9QFo

God save the King!

Menorica, Mother Asia, Allynthia, Speranzist

The launch of the carrier satellites will take place in an hour. All staff should be on site and do not forget to use the serum. Good luck.

Mother Asia

Orlovckaya wrote:The launch of the carrier satellites will take place in an hour. All staff should be on site and do not forget to use the serum. Good luck.

The serum?

Mother Asia

Lunayria wrote:The serum?

Explain?

Orlovckaya wrote:Explain?

You said in the message I quoted "All staff should be on site and do not forget to use the serum.". I was questioning what the serum was.

Lunayria wrote:You said in the message I quoted "All staff should be on site and do not forget to use the serum.". I was questioning what the serum was.

This improves all the parameters of the body at the cellular level.Don't worry, it's absolutely safe.

Orlovckaya wrote:This improves all the parameters of the body at the cellular level.Don't worry, it's absolutely safe.

Are You Sure...?

Sublime State wrote:Well 12h later will be around 6 AM in my time zone.

So maybe 16 hours later at best?

Ok

Orlovckaya wrote:This improves all the parameters of the body at the cellular level.Don't worry, it's absolutely safe.

As long as it's for your staff there shouldn't be a problem.

Mother Asia

Deushtflein wrote:Are You Sure...?

Yes, many years of research and testing have not been in vain when creating this serum.

Mother Asia

Lunayria wrote:As long as it's for your staff there shouldn't be a problem.

But it is desirable that the whole team make an injection of serum, and it does not matter if they are my people or others. Do not worry before this, people give their consent to this procedure or do not give it, it is clear that the procedure will not be carried out.

Mother Asia

Orlovckaya wrote:This improves all the parameters of the body at the cellular level.Don't worry, it's absolutely safe.

Please tolerate if some Speranzistians don't take it as due to religious beliefs they don't like inserting substances in their body.

Also our first Non-BDA member to join would be Exitium

Mother Asia, Orlovckaya, Exitium

Speranzist wrote:Please tolerate if some Speranzistians don't take it as due to religious beliefs they don't like inserting substances in their body.

Also our first Non-BDA member to join would be Exitium

Extium will personally put 12 Trillion Pounds into the funding of this project. Our area of specialty that we will be funding is The Research Department and we already have a set of 1,500 special trained scientists ready to go.

Mother Asia, Speranzist

Exitium wrote:Extium will personally put 12 Trillion Pounds into the funding of this project. Our area of specialty that we will be funding is The Research Department and we already have a set of 1,500 special trained scientists ready to go.

I will be glad to cooperate with you.

Mother Asia, Speranzist, Exitium

Speranzist Allynthia We Need To Talk About The Walls Around Our Borders.

Allynthia

Deushtflein wrote:Speranzist Allynthia We Need To Talk About The Walls Around Our Borders.

What is it?

Hopefully not be any aggression.

Lunayria, Allynthia

[nation=long]Lunayria[/nation] shall be contributing £50 Trillion to the space station projects.

Mother Asia, Speranzist

Speranzist wrote:What is it?

Hopefully not be any aggression.

Well, Many Riots Are Happening By The Wall Every Our. We Need To Get A Way To Stop It.

Jewish Sealand

Post self-deleted by Speranzist.

Speranzist wrote:is that in pounds? if not please convert it.

Forgot the "£" sign. I've edited the post to account for this error.

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Just a reminder quick reminder the Lunayria debate will end in TWO days, so if you have anything to contribute feel free to send a message.

Speranzist

Deushtflein wrote:Well, Many Riots Are Happening By The Wall Every Our. We Need To Get A Way To Stop It.

Is this due to them not being able to enter? if so we can add entrances of It with Militarlised Checkpoints to enter they will need to show the Speranzist Union Passport, Holy Empire Of Passport, or any Union countries passport.

We can create and give people the Speranzist State Of Corsica Entrance ID card with a policy to follow the rules of our Nation.

Lunayria wrote:Forgot the "£" sign. I've edited the post to account for this error.

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Just a reminder quick reminder the Lunayria debate will end in TWO days, so if you have anything to contribute feel free to send a message.

Mind giving me a simple brief of what has happened?

got caught up on the BDASP stuff

Orlovckaya wrote:I will be glad to cooperate with you.

I will be glad to work with you also!

Orlovckaya

Speranzist wrote:Mind giving me a simple brief of what has happened?

got caught up on the BDASP stuff

Here are the current proposals with our responses to them.

[spoiler=British Andorra's proposal and our responses to them]

British Andorra wrote:Joshua Stevens: “Back in 2006, I was fore front and center in the makings of the British Andorran government. I have some advice, which if implemented by the Lunayrian government, will ensure its survival and love from the people. My advice is

Rights of the People: These rights should be enshrined and promised to the Lunayrian people. Among them are the rights of liberty, equality, justice, protest, speech, movement, freedom, and arms.

Amendments: Amendments will ensure the longevity of any great republic

These two ideas advised by me will help strength your nation and be essential in forming a new more democratic government. I hope you at least implement one of these.”

Lunayria wrote:Mason (Civilian Administrator): So you're suggesting implementing a US-styled system? We are not too sure about this proposal as we would be unable to provide many of these 'rights of the people'. Many of our important policies invalidate the fundamental ideas of 'Liberty' and 'Freedom'. Not to mention the current public opinion wants little, if not nothing to do with foreign ideas, not after the Royal Capital Incident.

Akira (Committee Spokesperson): I concur with my civilian colleague here, many of these rights are completely foreign to our people. Our nation has always had certain restrictions, these have been in place since the founding of our nation. We're pushing the limit of what we can change as it is, especially since we've literally just come out of a drawn-out conflict involving foreign concepts, if we push any further it won't end well. The Committee knows this better than anyone else. If the Chief hadn't re-activated the system the nation would've already fallen apart by now.

Kaz (Army General): Mr Stevens, why should we even adopt another democratic system? Ever since The Committee was overthrown democracy has done nothing but tear the nation apart. Time and time again democracy has failed and the military has had to step in to bail the people out, we lost the capital last time along with over 30 million people, who knows what we'll lose next?

British Andorra wrote:Joshua Stevens: “It seems I may have been a little too far out in my advice, I do apologize. While it may seem similar to the US style, British Andorra has also implemented it and it has worked well. Maybe the citizens of Lunayria have been restricted so much that they will be apprehensive to these freedoms and rights.

To Mason: If LunayriaÂ’s important polices invalidate Liberty and Freedom then perhaps they need to be changed? These ideas, though sounding American, can be found everywhere in the world. IÂ’m sure you are thinking of the Lunayrian people as oppressed and afraid of such grand ideas. Give them a chance and let them know and get to understand these ideas, once they do they certainly wonÂ’t reject them then.

To Akira: I completely understand this. These changes seem like they will be brash and lightening speed, and this may seem concerning. However, I do believe that if they are implemented, no matter how fast they were, no Lunayrians citizen will ever want to go back to the old ways. DonÂ’t restrict the people in how they act and do, expect crime of course, restrictions almost never work. The black market is going quite strong in Lunayria. If the economic restrictions are lifted then the problem of the black market will surely disappear.

To Kaz: Dear Scott sir your an imbecile! Are you seriously stating that democracy has only done nothing but hurt the nation? Do you seriously want a military junta or dictatorship? Why are you even in this debate about governments? The military has no place here. If you continue to make these inflammatory comments, I shall immediately depart back to my home and wish the Lunayrians good luck. I shall try and ignore your inflammatory comments from now on and get on with the over legitimate members of this debate.”

Lunayria wrote:Kaz: Watch your tone. The Military has every right to be at these talks. WE overthrew the Committee, WE stopped the constituent assemblies' coup d'état, WE put down the out-of-control riots, WE rescued the Emperor, WE defeated the DCA and Socialist forces. WE HAVE DONE NOTHING THESE PAST FEW YEARS BUT BAIL OUT THE DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM. WE- OOF [Kaz proceeds to get punched in the gut by Akira]

Akira: KAZ, calm yourself. I suggest you take an early lunch and calm down. Apologies, Mr Stevens, for our colleague's brash behaviour. He was in charge of the Royal Capital when the Incident occurred and it has left him....emotional...on the matter, he shall be dealt with later... But he does have a point the military has done a lot for the sake of the nation and seeing that they along with the Committee, are currently the only groups holding the nation together they deserve to participate in the debates. We're not too sure how it works in your nation but the military is a MAJOR part of not just our government but our culture and way of life, to exclude them would be a grave insult to our ancestors and founders.

Akira: Moving on then, the policies my colleague Mason, mentioned that may invalidate the ideas of Liberty and Freedom aren't anything major, such as slavery which was abolished not long ago.

Mason: [Hands Mr Stevens a document]

These are the policies that may cause issues:[list]

[*]Atheism. We are an atheist nation, there is no religious worship in Lunayria and hasn't been for a long time. We conducted a series of public polls before the DCA-Socialist Rebellion, which came back saying that 97.45% of the population are atheists (the other 2.55% either didn't care or didn't take part) followed by another poll where 89.22% of the nation wished for religion to stay banned. Seeing that this is what the people wish for we are not going to change it.

[*]Organ Harvesting. There haven't been any polls on this recently but to sum it up it is a citizen's duty to the nation to allow their organs to be used to save lives. (Effectively everyone is an organ donor)

[*]Parental Licensing. This is a necessary policy to ensure the safety of would-be children.

[*]Body Integrity. This policy is up for removal, there just hasn't been any time to change it.

[*]Prohibition on Alcohol, Smoking, Drugs. These three policies have saved countless lives and saved the nation from a public health disaster.

[*]DNA Harvesting. This is purely for the safety and security of the public, with this we have not only been able to solve countless crimes but also save many lives, as with this policy we can see any possible health complications and prepare early for them.

[*]ID Chips. These are used for literally everything from buying a cup of coffee to finding a lost child. Think of it as the combination of an ID card, debit card and health monitor.[/list]

Mason: There are probably more but due to the bureaucratic mess the nation is in it will take a while to find them...

Akira: Shall we take a quick break to give you time to look over these documents? It'll also provide us with time to find a more...stable...military official...to partake in the debate.

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[spoiler=Allynthia's proposal and our response to it]

Allynthia wrote:Count Carlos von Regalia (Noble and Military General) :

We agree with the sentiments brought up by General Kazz and the other members of Lunayria, the concepts of Freedom and Liberty of Americans do not belong to all nations and the people of different origins view them differently, the people need to be guided towards the correct path, and the correct government is necessery for that.

We totally understand and agree with policies issued in Lunayria and the intended purpose for them are.

What I think, is that for Lunayria to have a strong centralization. The decision making and all to be centralised. Currently many faction are fighting over each other and controls different areas where they implement their own order, and de-centralising it. For the moment, a centralised form of governing would allow Lunayria to have better control of their populace and other resources in the nation and take care of the most IMMENINET problems.

Arch-Bishop Claude of the Order of Hastur =

I propose that we build a Cathedral in honour of the The King in Yellow and his benevolence shall cleanse this lands of its sins and fix all the trivial problems, a generous donation for our order will not go unnoticed as well an-

Gregory Lasvicous of the Elder Council:

Priest I believe they are atheist and they intend to continue so SHUT!!

hmm....

My friends of Lunayria, for time and time again, we have seen that the stability of Lunayria depends on the military, and that the nation would have been far gone beyond saving was it not for honourable fighters such as General Kazz, as this young one told (motions towards Carlos), it is to my understanding that the faction that fights for power and vile capitalist that threaten the nation, the MILITARY saved the country. The MILITARY stopped the rebellion, so as the ones backed by them, it seem only right for the Emperor to be the sole ruler of these lands, for he has the backing of the military. The rebel factions, were they to prove troublesome and request representation can be either eradicated by force or simply given a chance to provide their opinions to the Emperor, while the ultimate decision making lies within the true emperor.

The people of Lunayria seem long used to these power struggles and highly authoritative regimes, so it would not be hard where a proper regime be established, such as the emperor, and attempt to gain the fealty to themselves. The strength of the common man is strong my friends, beyond doubt and such it is a great sword and a heavy shield for the wielder. The people desire to be not oppressed, and where the government take actions that brings in favour of the people, even if the emperor or the military are to be overthrown, the grudge will remain with the people against the invaders, and the support of common man is to be easily gain by the emperor is he to fight back for his throne.

Furthermore, the desires of commoners are simple, while the wants of great factions and their leaders are of greed, and satisfying that insanitable greed is impossible.

In conclusion, I believe a strong authoritarian government that will take down all oppositions while slowly building the favour of the general populace to be of great importance, simply be feared and loved however not hated for if the common man turn against the ruler, all is lost. This is simply the words of an old man

Lunayria wrote:Mason: This certainly shows promise, the public does hold the military and the Emperor in very high regard so it'd be easy to rally the nation behind him. The Emperor does have more legitimacy than the previous democratic governments, not to mention that he also commanded the military during the rebellion. And if the changes are the Emperor's decree public should be fine with that, as long as they aren't oppressive in nature of course. I'm certain this would please all parties, well most parties...

Kaz: The military would certainly prefer this over some half-baked attempt at a military junta. We would have a clear and present role in the nation. How would the civilian government be run though? Would we need to establish a ruling council along with regional governors? And what of The Committee? Their help these past few months has been invaluable, and without them and their 'system' we wouldn't be sitting here right now.

Akira: A strong centralised government would certainly make sense given our history. Establishing a more clear chain of command will help our nation focus on the goals that we need to accomplish while also removing the constant bickering and indecision the previous governments have had. Hmm...If we were to implement this it would almost be as if the nation is like a parent over its citizens, giving citizens the chance to live how they want to while watching carefully for anyone to slip up. But as Kaz said what role would The Committee play in this?

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Jewish Sealand, Speranzist

Lunayria wrote:Here are the current proposals with our responses to them.

[spoiler=British Andorra's proposal and our responses to them]

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[spoiler=Allynthia's proposal and our response to it]

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The Divine Minister is on the side of Lunayria but I think there should be a borderline to how much the Government has power over the citizens. I would say perhaps increase civil rights but have highly strict rules on them erm... for example since the citizens may need some sort of emotional support to still work and help the nation so I would advise maybe allowing policies such as drinking alcohol but on certain days and amounts.

Lunayria, Jewish Sealand, Allynthia

Speranzist wrote:Is this due to them not being able to enter? if so we can add entrances of It with Militarlised Checkpoints to enter they will need to show the Speranzist Union Passport, Holy Empire Of Passport, or any Union countries passport.

We can create and give people the Speranzist State Of Corsica Entrance ID card with a policy to follow the rules of our Nation.

There Mad Because Many Of There Families Are Across The Wall.

Lunayria

Deushtflein wrote:There Mad Because Many Of There Families Are Across The Wall.

We can give them the ID card and they just have to obey and respect the rules to see them.

Or we can deport the families, give them 1000HO and just leave it at that

Lunayria

Speranzist wrote:We can give them the ID card and they just have to obey and respect the rules to see them.

Or we can deport the families, give them 1000HO and just leave it at that

Well....We've Got Reports That There Trying To Gain Freedom And Tear Down The Wall.

Lunayria

Deushtflein wrote:Well....We've Got Reports That There Trying To Gain Freedom And Tear Down The Wall.

Already? You guys literally just built the wall and they already want it torn down?

Deushtflein wrote:Well....We've Got Reports That There Trying To Gain Freedom And Tear Down The Wall.

That destruction of Miliary property and even trying to change the border.

Either your border control apprehend them or we will declare that no one is allowed to enter our border and use gas to make them unconscious.(this would mean the border area would be a warzone but our forces will try our best to not kill anyone)

Lunayria

Speranzist wrote:That destruction of Miliary property and even trying to change the border.

Either your border control apprehend them or we will declare that no one is allowed to enter our border and use gas to make them unconscious.(this would mean the border area would be a warzone but our forces will try our best to not kill anyone)

Agreed.

Lunayria, Speranzist

Speranzist wrote:The Divine Minister is on the side of Lunayria but I think there should be a borderline to how much the Government has power over the citizens. I would say perhaps increase civil rights but have highly strict rules on them erm... for example since the citizens may need some sort of emotional support to still work and help the nation so I would advise maybe allowing policies such as drinking alcohol but on certain days and amounts.

Lunayria what do you think about this?

Lunayria

Speranzist wrote:The Divine Minister is on the side of Lunayria but I think there should be a borderline to how much the Government has power over the citizens. I would say perhaps increase civil rights but have highly strict rules on them erm... for example since the citizens may need some sort of emotional support to still work and help the nation so I would advise maybe allowing policies such as drinking alcohol but on certain days and amounts.

What would that borderline be exactly? The current power we have over them, as strict as it may seem, is solely for the benefit of the people. It's not really possible to raise civil rights further and have strict rules alongside them.

As for Emotional Support, drinking alcohol, smoking or drugs aren't exactly emotional support. We have dedicated social programs specifically catered to dealing with emotional support, along with a multitude of other issues. And if we allowed these on certain days we may as well unban it, which our medical advisors have strictly told us NOT to do.

Jewish Sealand, British Andorra, Allynthia

We shall donate a massive £100T for the BDASP. In exchange, I would want British Andorra to become the space commander.

Speranzist

British Andorra wrote:We shall donate a massive £100T for the BDASP. In exchange, I would want British Andorra to become the space commander.

That is a rather large percentage of your GDP that you're donating there.

British Andorra

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