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Region: Federation of Conservative Nations
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=conservative_nations/detail=factbook/id=1317631
Sorry to interrupt but yes
Liberated American Provinces, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, The Legion Of Mankind, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Well we have laws in place such as the Communist Condemning Act as well as the Fascist Condemning Act that limit certain ideologies which Im not too keen on changing....if youre feelings are so strong on free speech I welcome you to join the Senate and be the change you want to see in our region
Otira, Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda
Exactly how specified are those laws.
Ulrech, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
i agree- wait im not supposed to say that
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda
lol
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda
I think it is okay to be gay/lesbian.
Gagium, The Legion Of Mankind, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Yes
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda, Noeah
shoot ya.
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
can someone send me a brief history of the region so far. I read the rmb and I'm kinda confused.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Why no sladerstan figure
wait
I'll do it myself
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda, Noeah
Epic! Thanks for stick figure my dude!
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda, Noeah
my god. live the jets
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_sladerstan/detail=factbook/id=1317704
I highlighted my religious aspect
I'm proud. Even more so that I had to use my fingers to draw it.
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda, Noeah
I will add this to the sheet
Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda, Noeah
I am so very grateful for those who have supported me in becoming the next Secretary of the Internal Affairs of the Federation of Conservative Nations. I am grateful to the acting president of the FCN, Greater Bastone, for the opportunity to be able to serve this region.
I wanted to take a minute to tell you all about the future I see. My nations slogan is Strength in Tradition, Power in Unity, Joy in Community and I think that this applies today. We find joy in our interactions with one another. We find power in our ability to, as a region, come together after a crisis and push forward into the future. We find strength in knowing the purpose and meaning behind this region. As such as the new Secretary of Internal Affairs I only want to strengthen the bonds we share together.
I want to make our region more active than ever. I want to find ways for every citizen to contribute to the region in some way. I want to make our role-plays some of the greatest on Nationstates. I want to invite new members to the region and start them on a path to activity by connecting with them as soon as they enter the region and pointing them towards future continuous activity. Finally I want the regions information to be continually kept up to date, so not a single person in the FCN feels out of date.
In order for me to do this, I 100% need the help of every member of this region. I need people who will be willing to help run the FCN Times. I need people willing to volunteer their ideas and suggestions for role-plays and activities. I need people to be willing to get out there and be active, participate in the roleplays and to form that bond of community. Finally I need every member to be willing to share their ideas with the region so that we as a region can grow closer to one another!
Thank you so much for the opportunity to serve you all and I hope I can make you proud to be citizens of the Federation of Conservative Nations! The greatest region on Nationstates!
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, The Legion Of Mankind, Ibenta, Mietkael, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda
congrats I guess. f*ck i dont know.
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Aglonia, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
I also added an explanation for the symbolism
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda, Noeah
Party politics :)
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda, Noeah
The problem is the change I want to see would involve a God-Emperor and not as much democracy.
Viridus, Gagium, The Legion Of Mankind, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
Senate Speaker bad, literally the region's version if Nixon.
Led to the gorvernment to resign and the governing party to collapse.
Now we're here.
Ulrech, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda, Noeah
Some older history here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1091380
Ulrech, Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda, Noeah
TimE to FinIsH it
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda
Went to Death Valley, 40 MPH Winds almost total my tent, realized as a group, "nope, f' dis"
Ulrech, Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda
So let me get this straight. You want to allow fascists and communists--who don't believe in free speech, mind you--to be able to speak without restriction so as to constitute a real threat to your own freedoms? Look, we're not about to allow people who don't even respect the freedoms that you and I enjoy to be able to use those rights to take power and ultimately turn this region into an authoritarian state. If you can't respect other people's right to speak freely, then you don't deserve that freedom yourself. As I look at it, Otira, you are the real hypocrite. You would readily hand over the freedom of speech to empower those who would take it away from you.
By the way, don't try to give people here such absurd libertarian talking points. They don't work in the real world, and they sure as Hell don't work here. We're not about to make stupid decisions in this region just so one person can claim ideological consistency.
Ulrech, Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Dragons Of Power, Mietkael, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda
thanks
Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
You of all people have no right to complain or even talk about party politics with any ounce of credibility. You refuse to make yourself active on the most important parts of this region, even though you have every opportunity and means to do so. And consequently, you clearly have little understanding of the most recent issues facing this region.
You actually ought to take Ulrech's suggestion seriously. Join the Discord and make yourself into a responsible citizen of our region or don't complain at all. It's very simple.
Gagium, Fluvannia, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda
oh snap.
fight
fight
cmooooon
fight!
!
!
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
Baptist: So Jesus' body is the bread?
Lutheran: Yes, actually His body is in the bread.
Baptist: Ok. Did Jesus rise from the dead?
Lutheran: Yes.
Baptist: Because of the yeast?
Lutheran: No...
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda
This is hardly a fight when it's so very one-sided. (Jkjk.)
Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda, Noeah
I'm hunting for a post Gagium didn't like
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda
hitler is goof
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
Not funny didnt laugh
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
Yo I just became Senate Speaker thats pretty epic
Ulrech, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
For real. I probably just need to enlist some help from other members of longevity in order to do so.
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
As a Baptist, that's hilarious, if a bit sacrilegious, lol.
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
Those user portraits tho
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
Meanwhile I struggle to draw a stickman
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Yes. I value freedom enough not to live in fear of it. I pity you.
Edit: I suppose I should add "small government" to the list of hypocrisies.
One last edit because it made me laugh upon rereading:
I mean, come on. Anyone else notice this? He says this while defending a ban on free speech. :DDDD
Liberated American Provinces, Gagium, Numenar, Prritish Timezone, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
Coming from someone who chants about "No PPs" I take that as a compliment. :p
Gagium, Numenar, New Inglaterra, Prritish Timezone, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
W
Otira, Viridus, Gagium, Prritish Timezone, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
Beautiful lmao
Otira, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Smh New Inglaterra stop lurking and get in here before I circumcise you.
Wait a minute . . .
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
Free speech for all*!
*=Unless they arent in the CP and I agree with them
Otira, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Ooh me me!
New Waldensia, Gagium, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda
Post self-deleted by Gagium.
>Ban on FrEe sPeEcH
Welcome to basically every internet community ever...Youd be hard pressed to find one without a ban on free speech
Otira, Viridus, Fluvannia, Mietkael, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
I mean...in real life, sure, they can go ahead if theyre not advocating for illegal activities and the like, but on the internet theres literally thousands of communities that better suit fascists and communists, so theres no reason why we should have to allow them in ours - Its not a ban on free speech as Otira says when they can literally go to another outlet to speak with a few clicks
Viridus, West Phoenicia, Fluvannia, Ibenta, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
I welcome the assistance.
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda
People make the argument that it is a ban on free speech on the basis that the FCN is a simulation of a government, so therefore it should behave as such. Obviously it is not an actual ban on free speech because the FCN has no power in the real world.
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
I dont see how anyone whos been here for long enough could hold the opinion that the FCN gov should function like an actual one
New Waldensia, Viridus, Fluvannia, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda
I guess
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda
Our party platform is actually outdated, and we're in the middle of updating it. Most of our members aren't libertarians who support small government. Most of us are actual conservatives who support a stronger centralized government through legal reforms. But again, I doubt that you would have actually known that considering how you don't make yourself active in regional affairs. Again, don't act like you know what you're talking about. You clearly don't, and you're in no position to claim credibility.
Now, as for your second point. I don't actually support full free speech. If you carefully read what I wrote--which clearly, I should not have expected someone like you to be capable of doing--then you would know that I only support the spirit of free speech. People should be able to speak as they wish, but there should be consequences for some of the things people say--limits on free speech when certain ideas, like fascism, become a clear and present danger to the members of this community.
You claim that I live in fear. Yes, I do. And I pity you for being so naive as to not believe that such dangers exist. Your first line is where the distinction between the two of us becomes evidently clear; you live in the absurd world of ideals--in a world where everything neatly fits into your little libertarian order. You live in some happy little utopia where everyone is perfect and where no one would abuse the freedom of speech--a place where no government is needed. Meanwhile, I come from experience and knowledge. I speak with an authority that you lack. I know what people are capable of, and I know that they are capable of committing terrible acts. I know that even if you give people all the rational conditions to be perfect--to create some paradise--people will still spite reason out of desire.
Life is not inherently a happy thing. You're young, and I forgive you for your innocence. But there will come a time when such compassion--safety--becomes a distant memory.
Ulrech, Viridus, Gagium, Greater Bastion, Mietkael, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, The Cot Corporation, Hindiabelanda
Nothing scares me more than the thought of being on the receiving end of one of Ibentas paragraphs
Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Ibenta, Mietkael, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, The Cot Corporation, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
Wow, you really got me there, Otira! What a decisive point. I spammed "No PP" as part of a political protest in defense of our democracy! To protest a member of government who abused his power! Oh my God! Have I no shame? Wow, you clearly are so much smarter than me!
Also, you ought to include the majority of active members on our Discord who also used the phrase "No PP" and who also partook in the protest against New Inglaterra. But again, you weren't there, so of course you wouldn't know that. Gee, it's like you really don't know what you're talking about! Wow! Isn't that a surprise?
But you know what else is funny? How in your two responses, you couldn't even put a proper argument! Wow, you're just so intellectually endowed. I envy you!
Ulrech, Viridus, Gagium, Mietkael, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Cot Corporation, Hindiabelanda
I mean, if you really want to engage in this kind of stupidity, I could label you a spineless enabler of fascism or a dirty communist. Would you enjoy that?
Viridus, Gagium, Mietkael, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
I love how everyone is blaming the Conservative party for legislation that was passed by the entire Senate lmao...I also find it rather funny the one who are such supporters of complete freedom of speech refuse to join discord where you have much more freedom of speech than NS
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Ibenta, Mietkael, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Cot Corporation, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
Yes, but this clearly doesn't fit into Otira's "utopian" world. No, no, we can't have reason here! We can only have what's ideologically consistent to Otira's absurdist thoughts! HUZZAH!
Ulrech, Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Cot Corporation, Hindiabelanda
SHHHH! LOGIC AND FACTS ARE ILLEGAL IN OTIRA'S "UTOPIA!" IDEOLOGICAL CONSISTENCY, HE SAYS!
Ulrech, Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
I'll be real. We should offer Fascists and Communists Freedom of speech if they reside in the region, are fascists and Communists banned from entering the region?
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Shoutout to when Otira asked me to join the Conservative party when we elected Furby as president
Otira, Viridus, Gagium, Ibenta, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Cot Corporation, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
Yes they are
Ulrech, New Waldensia, Viridus, Fluvannia, Ibenta, Prritish Timezone, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
That would be an awful idea even if Communists and Fascists weren't banned
Viridus, Gagium, Ibenta, Mietkael, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Cot Corporation, Hindiabelanda
Yes please
Viridus, Gagium, Ibenta, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
But he brings up a point. If theyre allowed in theyre entitled to their rights as residents
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Well first of all they aren't and second if people with extremist ideologies want to come in and attempt to harm our region than why should we let them?
Viridus, Gagium, Ibenta, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Cot Corporation, Hindiabelanda
It's easy to gain power. It's harder to defend what is right. With that said, I'd rather die poor but with a rich soul.
Ulrech, Viridus, Gagium, Greater Bastion, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, The Cot Corporation, Hindiabelanda
Just Being A Traveler.
Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Mietkael, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda
Viridus, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda
I. All nations, as long as they reside within the Federation, have their sovereign rights guaranteed and can make their own laws within their boundaries..
They still have that right. No one here can force them to change their style of government. But their opposing view can have a negative impact on the region.
Any anyway nations can be pardoned who follow those ideologies and remain. I guess they just need to explain why they think this region best suits them, when there are hundreds of other regions that better suit them.
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Ulrech, Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Ibenta, Greater Bastion, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, The Cot Corporation, Hindiabelanda
Ah so not allowed in? Got it.
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
Everyone please endorse Ibenta as our new WA Delegate!
We have excited ventures up ahead, and as your president, though I have not been super active on the RMB, am always here for the residents and citizens of the FCN.
If you have any questions for me, please either join the regional Discord or telegram me (but Discord is preferable).
Thank you all!
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Ibenta, Mietkael, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, The Cot Corporation, Hindiabelanda
As bad as I feel for you for receiving this... thrashing, I believe that your argument is faulty. From what I have been able to gather, you believe that all nations, no matter their ideologies, should be allowed to speak their minds within this region. As lovely and utopian as this sounds, it is utterly stupid.
Here's an example for you, so that you can see how you are wrong. Imagine you had a friend who is deeply, strongly atheist. Imagine that you invite them to church, a place of worship designed for christians. Imagine that in church, they start protesting, throwing chairs, yelling, and generally causing a commotion - but you don't care. This person should be allowed to throw chairs, protest, and yell. Why? Because if they weren't allowed to protest within an organisation designed specifically for like-minded people, who they happen to disagree with, then it would be an enormous drawback for that organisation.
Does that sound ridiculous to you? In fact, does that sound familiar to you? I presume it does. The funny thing there is... it's exactly your argument. And a stupid argument it is, too. "Oh yes, why don't we completely allow our enemies to have free reign in our region! That would definitely benefit us!" Can you hear yourself!? I'll assume you can't.
Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Ibenta, Mietkael, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda
This is the sort of straight-to-the-point debating I can get behind
Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Mietkael, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda
This couldve been a roleplay post.
You couldve taken this time to write a much needed roleplay post instead of literally restating Okasians argument.
Im disappointed in you.
Otira, Viridus, Fluvannia, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, The Cot Corporation, Aglonia, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
Oh my gosh. True...
Realizes I'm just as bad at posting in the roleplay.
Today for sure.
Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
Imagine having enough free time to post in a roleplay
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Eldrado, Mietkael, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Cot Corporation, Aglonia, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
You and your f*cking roleplay can get stuffed, I'm having good sex!
Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
Nothing you post will remove your virginity
Viridus, Fluvannia, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
But my sex will :sunglasses:
Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
Ah yes...one day.
Looks longingly at the RP
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda
How is sex allowed on the rmb but f*ck isnt?
Gagium, Fluvannia, Emerisis, The Cot Corporation, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda, Apreia
because you can use the word sex in non-sexual ways
Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
Jesus is the yeast
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
Not your fake imaginary sex
Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
I'm cumming!!
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda
Shut the hell up for the love of god
Viridus, Fluvannia, Mietkael, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Cot Corporation, Hindiabelanda
Bold of you to assume god exists
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Not here you can't!
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
How is our WA delegate selected? Id like to try for it someday.
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Cot Corporation, Hindiabelanda
F U C K
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Cot Corporation, Hindiabelanda
It's a right of passage for Conservative Party members with lofty ambitions
The position of Head Diplomat is appointed by the President and approved by a majority of the Senate.
Laurel, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
teach me your ways
i must achieve
swEAr
Viridus, Gagium, The Legion Of Mankind, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
Gagium, The Legion Of Mankind, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda
how is everyone
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
bad word alert
Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
Been better, hbu?
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda, Noeah
great
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda
Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
tl;dr, I'm glad you conceded my point on the current Conservative Party platform's hypocrisy, however. Cheers!
I'm surprised my observations shook you this much. It's just a game, mate.
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
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