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Logon wrote:Imagine thinking that some guy who logs on once every three weeks to answer an issue is just as qualified to vote as an active member of the Discord

YES THIS

Gagium, Knat, The Sladerstan

Meirshir wrote:Lastly, I'm not banned - yet. At least I'm not banned by legal terms, anyway.

You are, and currently you are ban evading.

Viridus, Gagium, Knat

Gagium wrote:That's..what democracy is, yes.."qualified to vote"

I had a teacher in what I believe is 6th grade for you, and he was hecca in favour of compulsory voting. Not that I am, but... If you have the right to vote, you may as well use it all the time.

Gagium, Knat

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:You are, and currently you are ban evading.

Not from what I've been told, anyway.

Gagium, Knat

Meirshir wrote:YES THIS

You're banned from the discord and it'll stay that way, but go "yes this" all you want.. :P

Viridus, Knat

Gagium wrote:You're banned from the discord and it'll stay that way, but go "yes this" all you want.. :P

My trial was meant to be last Tuesday... Either way, I'll continue my "YES THISSING" until I'm banned.

Gagium, Knat

Meirshir wrote:My trial was meant to be last Tuesday... Either way, I'll continue my "YES THISSING" until I'm banned.

You don’t get a trial

Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Knat

Suribachi wrote:For the record, Discord is blocked on my computer by my parents. Just one voice, but I want to let it be known not "literally anyone" can get on Discord.

New Waldensia wrote:bUt YoU dOn'T cOuNt ApPaReNtLy

Are you suggesting that we have to care and even worry about the situation of his family? As harsh as this will sound, it really is not our problem if his parents don't allow him to use Discord. That's his personal problem.

Gagium, Knat, Logon

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:Motion fails, will of the people prevail.

Look, I don't understand how you of all people can come here and say anything with credibility. You are a disgraced politician, and quite frankly, you should never again be trusted with any sort of power.

Count yourself lucky that you still have a vote in the Senate and a voice on the RMB. And on that note, be smart and don't bring more attention to yourself. Your past in this region's government is nothing to be proud of. You should have already publicly apologized and retired from all political activity by now.

Ulrech, Gagium, Fluvannia, Mietkael, Knat, Logon, Meirshir

Ibenta wrote:Count yourself lucky that you still have a vote in the Senate and a voice on the RMB.

What sort of threat is this?

Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Knat

New Waldensia wrote:What sort of threat is this?

I think what he’s trying to say is that the region could have punished Rhiney more for his conduct during the whole NI affair and its aftermath, but they didn’t. Not a threat, more a reminder. That’s how I read it anyway.

Gagium, Mietkael, Knat, Logon

New Waldensia wrote:What sort of threat is this?

It's not a threat. It's a statement of fact. He is lucky to still have a seat in the Senate after the scandal he was connected to.

It seems that the former Delegate ought to spend more time in this region to understand the nuances of current affairs. And if he can't, then he should at least refrain from just throwing out unfounded inferences.

It really helps to know what you're talking about or at least be humble when you don't.

Gagium, Knat, Logon

Suribachi wrote:For the record, Discord is blocked on my computer by my parents. Just one voice, but I want to let it be known not "literally anyone" can get on Discord.

I cannot get on Discord because my parents said if I do I lose my phone.

Viridus, Gagium, Emerisis, Knat

Ibenta wrote:It's not a threat. It's a statement of fact. He is lucky to still have a seat in the Senate after the scandal he was connected to.

It seems that the former Delegate ought to spend more time in this region to understand the nuances of current affairs. And if he can't, then he should at least refrain from just throwing out unfounded inferences.

Allow me to quote from the Senate chamber:

Greater Bastion

As far as I know, NI did not speak to Holy Rhinish Islands about this. In fact, NI spoke negatively about Rhiney behind closed doors.

[...]

Ulrech

Y’all do realize this has nothing to do with Rhiney right?

It seems to me that the current Delegate should be more diplomatic about his interactions with members of his region rather than casting caustic asperions on those whom he disagrees with.

Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Knat, Aglonia, The Sladerstan, Democratic Federation Party

Ibenta wrote:Are you suggesting that we have to care and even worry about the situation of his family? As harsh as this will sound, it really is not our problem if his parents don't allow him to use Discord. That's his personal problem.

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:And that's the bad thing, not that they are on NS, but that we are on Discord. We aren't a DISCORD region, we are a NATIONSTATES region. People are forgetting that as each day passes more and more.

Viridus, Gagium, Knat, Aglonia

New Waldensia wrote:It seems to me that the current Delegate should be more diplomatic about his interactions with members of his region.

Coming from a person who implied I was threatening a former government official, I would say the same to the former Delegate. There is no need for such lies here, and the former Delegate ought not to allow his opposition to my bill cloud his judgement.

New Waldensia wrote:Allow me to quote from the Senate chamber:

Greater Bastion

As far as I know, NI did not speak to Holy Rhinish Islands about this. In fact, NI spoke negatively about Rhiney behind closed doors.

And I see that you haven't fully understood any one of our claims. To begin with, Ulrech asserted that Rhiney took orders from New Inglaterra after the former President himself released personal chat logs on the Discord General that showed the former head of the Executive Branch taking direct orders from the former leader of the NPP. Gagium even questioned Rhiney on this very point, based on the logs.

As for what I've claimed. I've claimed that Rhiney lacks the credibility--based on his past actions--to adequately comment on any, if not most, government affairs. He may certainly have the right to speak as he wishes--something he should feel very fortunate to still have--but he does not have the moral basis to speak with any authority.

For instance, if he were truly the populist voice of the people, as he so claims, then he wouldn't have taken his orders from our region's equivalent of Rasputin. He truly would have listened to the people. At least he listened to them enough to have resigned once New Inglaterra fled this region.

In any case, in direct response to your quote, that New Inglaterra hated Rhiney does not mean that the former Speaker didn't use the former President. That information does not cast even the slightest sufficient doubt.

Ulrech, Gagium, Knat

The Sladerstan wrote:--Snip--

The way in which Rhiney uses the fact that we are a region on Nation States is peculiar. Yes. We recruit and partake in this game called Nation States by operating a page on this website. But every function of this region's government operates on the Discord out of necessity. We cannot, as Rhiney so conveniently does, ignore this fact. Debates can rarely be had on this platform--for instance--without moderators controlling what people say. And the threat of espionage and targeted raids against various regional outposts on this website is both present and clear.

Nearly every day as World Assembly Delegate, I see new resolutions in the Security Council trying to get entire regions liberated from absolutely devastating attacks. I see regions that even after liberation, fail to return to their former glory. The Federation of Conservative Nations has many enemies, and they would be all too glad to wipe us out in one strike if we foolishly decided to keep all of our government processes on Nation States. This cannot ever happen. That is why we have Discord.

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Now, some of you will probably wonder why I seemingly care so much about this region or why I use such alarming language. Let me put it you all this way; if the Federation were to disappear tomorrow, the largest, moderate voice for the Nation States right will have been wiped out in an instant. Let that sink in. In our collapse, the voice of the Nation States right would fall to the League of Conservative Nations and God knows what other right-wing regions fester on this platform. Think of matters in this way: we are the Israel of Nation States. If we go, that's it for our people.

Gagium, Greater Bastion, Mietkael, Knat

Ibenta wrote:Think of matters in this way: we are the Israel of Nation States. If we go, that's it for our people.

Tags San Carlos Islands

Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Mietkael, Knat, Baconstate, The Sladerstan

I will echo some of the things Ibentahas said in regards to the Rhiney ordeal Holy Rhinish Islands literally admitted the Inglaterra told him what to say I’m the debates although the incident of spying in particular had nothing to do with Rhiney...Rhiney and NI were basically joined at the hip

Gagium, Fluvannia, Mietkael, Knat

Ulrech wrote:I will echo some of the things [natione]Ibenta[/nation]has said in regards to the Rhiney ordeal [nation]Holy Rhinish Islands[/nation] literally admitted the Inglaterra told him what to say I’m the debates although the incident of spying in particular had nothing to do with Rhiney...Rhiney and NI were basically joined at the hip

You can't remove someone from the senate for that though.

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Knat

Meanwhile me, an indie watching the conservatives and the nationalists going @ each other's throats *lul* .

Juicy content for the next FCN times edition.

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Knat, Aglonia, The Sladerstan

Hi I know I’m not in this region any more but I would just like to say that Rhiney basically did whatever I told him to do during the debates.

Additionally, it was I who told him to do a lot of the early administration stuff, like who to appoint to his Cabinet.

In fact, when he started to have a mind of his own I was ready to remove him from the NPP.

I know my opinion isn’t quite valued here anymore, but I figured you should know.

Ulrech, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Knat, The Sladerstan

Ulrech is wrong when he says Rhiney and I were joined at the hip.

Rhiney was in the palm of my hand.

Ulrech, Gagium, Mietkael, Holy Rhinish Islands, Knat, The Sladerstan

New Inglaterra wrote:Hi I know I’m not in this region any more but I would just like to say that Rhiney basically did whatever I told him to do during the debates.

Additionally, it was I who told him to do a lot of the early administration stuff, like who to appoint to his Cabinet.

In fact, when he started to have a mind of his own I was ready to remove him from the NPP.

I know my opinion isn’t quite valued here anymore, but I figured you should know.

Boo, get out of here traitor!

New Waldensia, Gagium, Knat, Democratic Federation Party

Baconstate wrote:Meanwhile me, an indie watching the conservatives and the nationalists going @ each other's throats *lul* .

Juicy content for the next FCN times edition.

What are nationalists? The irrelevant Viridus party?

Gagium, Knat

New Waldensia wrote:Tags San Carlos Islands

Welp. Guess it's time for me to move the the LCN.

#OpenBordersForTheFCN

#FCNApartheid

Gagium, Knat, The Sladerstan

San Carlos Islands wrote:Welp. Guess it's time for me to move the the LCN.

#OpenBordersForTheFCN

#FCNApartheid

You fool, we've already established illegal settlements in the LCN!

Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Knat, The Sladerstan

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:What are nationalists? The irrelevant Viridus party?

I am in the Nationalist Party

Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Knat

Ibenta wrote:The way in which Rhiney uses the fact that we are a region on Nation States is peculiar. Yes. We recruit and partake in this game called Nation States by operating a page on this website. But every function of this region's government operates on the Discord out of necessity. We cannot, as Rhiney so conveniently does, ignore this fact. Debates can rarely be had on this platform--for instance--without moderators controlling what people say. And the threat of espionage and targeted raids against various regional outposts on this website is both present and clear.

Nearly every day as World Assembly Delegate, I see new resolutions in the Security Council trying to get entire regions liberated from absolutely devastating attacks. I see regions that even after liberation, fail to return to their former glory. The Federation of Conservative Nations has many enemies, and they would be all too glad to wipe us out in one strike if we foolishly decided to keep all of our government processes on Nation States. This cannot ever happen. That is why we have Discord.

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Now, some of you will probably wonder why I seemingly care so much about this region or why I use such alarming language. Let me put it you all this way; if the Federation were to disappear tomorrow, the largest, moderate voice for the Nation States right will have been wiped out in an instant. Let that sink in. In our collapse, the voice of the Nation States right would fall to the League of Conservative Nations and God knows what other right-wing regions fester on this platform. Think of matters in this way: we are the Israel of Nation States. If we go, that's it for our people.

You could've taken 300 less chapters off of that book you just wrote, and said it in a paragraph.

"We need to be on Discord out of necessity, and because raids are common on NS, we'd be destroyed if our government was only on NS. That is why we are on Discord and keep the government there. "

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Greater Bastion, Knat

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:You can't remove someone from the senate for that though.

Never once did I accuse you of any wrongdoing that’s not the point here...the point is don’t act like you’re entirely clean now that we know your puppet master picked out your entire Cabinet and wrote your speech for you

Gagium, Knat

New Inglaterra wrote:Hi I know I’m not in this region any more but I would just like to say that Rhiney basically did whatever I told him to do during the debates.

Additionally, it was I who told him to do a lot of the early administration stuff, like who to appoint to his Cabinet.

In fact, when he started to have a mind of his own I was ready to remove him from the NPP.

Thanks for re-affirming our belief that you're manipulative

Viridus, Fluvannia, Greater Bastion, Mietkael, Holy Rhinish Islands, Knat

Ulrech wrote:Never once did I accuse you of any wrongdoing that’s not the point here...the point is don’t act like you’re entirely clean now that we know your puppet master picked out your entire Cabinet and wrote your speech for you

He only picked my SecWar once. Everyone else was out of my own volition. The only thing he wrote was the debate, the one speech he wrote for me was rejected by me.

Gagium, Knat

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:He only picked my SecWar once. Everyone else was out of my own volition. The only thing he wrote was the debate, the one speech he wrote for me was rejected by me.

I highly doubt this but either way...the fact that you resigned the moment NI was outed points to a different story...that being said you really aren’t in any position to say someone else doesn’t care about the people given that’s what you ran your entire campaign on and at the first sign of strife what’d you do...you resigned and ran for the hills....if my calculations are correct that’s the second time you’ve abandoned the region?

Gagium, Fluvannia, Greater Bastion, Knat, Logon

New Inglaterra wrote:I know my opinion isn’t quite valued here anymore

Correct.

Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Greater Bastion, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Knat

New Inglaterra wrote:Hi I know I’m not in this region any more but I would just like to say that Rhiney basically did whatever I told him to do during the debates.

Additionally, it was I who told him to do a lot of the early administration stuff, like who to appoint to his Cabinet.

In fact, when he started to have a mind of his own I was ready to remove him from the NPP.

I know my opinion isn’t quite valued here anymore, but I figured you should know.

New Inglaterra wrote:Ulrech is wrong when he says Rhiney and I were joined at the hip.

Rhiney was in the palm of my hand.

F-word

Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Knat, Logon

Ulrech wrote:I highly doubt this but either way...the fact that you resigned the moment NI was outed points to a different story...that being said you really aren’t in any position to say someone else doesn’t care about the people given that’s what you ran your entire campaign on and at the first sign of strife what’d you do...you resigned and ran for the hills....if my calculations are correct that’s the second time you’ve abandoned the region?

For someone who cares about "the common man" he sure does abandon them a lot, doesn't he?

Gagium, Fluvannia, Knat

Reminder that "the common man" is just communist propaganda.

Ulrech, Washingtonian Republic, Gagium, Fluvannia, Greater Bastion, Knat, Logon, The Sladerstan

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:He only picked my SecWar once. Everyone else was out of my own volition. The only thing he wrote was the debate, the one speech he wrote for me was rejected by me.

I also picked your Vice President, you took Bastion because of my urging.

I also told you to select Gagium and NW for their positions.

I am the one who made you get off the couch and release a statement regarding the LCN.

I am the one who wrote your lines for the last debate.

I am the one who made you take action on the LCN.

I am the one who made you do your job.

The only times you made decisions independent of me are selecting COT for SecWar (fine choice, no?) and pushing the idea of WP for Head Journalist.

Ulrech, Gagium, Knat, Logon

New Inglaterra wrote:I also picked your Vice President, you took Bastion because of my urging.

I also told you to select Gagium and NW for their positions.

I am the one who made you get off the couch and release a statement regarding the LCN.

I am the one who wrote your lines for the last debate.

I am the one who made you take action on the LCN.

I am the one who made you do your job.

The only times you made decisions independent of me are selecting COT for SecWar (fine choice, no?) and pushing the idea of WP for Head Journalist.

I’m so glad NI isn’t the biggest fan of you now Holy Rhinish Islands because he’s exposed you for what you truly were...a cog in the machine of bureaucracy

Gagium, Greater Bastion, Mietkael, Knat, Logon

Ulrech wrote:I’m so glad NI isn’t the biggest fan of you now Holy Rhinish Islands because he’s exposed you for what you truly were...a cog in the machine of bureaucracy

A cog in bueaucracy? More like a puppet dancing to whatever tune NI sung

Gagium, Greater Bastion, Mietkael, Knat

Baconstate wrote:wanna try my noodle?

YES

Gagium, Knat, Baconstate

Ulrech wrote:I’m so glad NI isn’t the biggest fan of you now Holy Rhinish Islands because he’s exposed you for what you truly were...a cog in the machine of bureaucracy

What he was was too young to hold office and quite frankly weakminded in this regard, this is someone who EO'd something that was voted against 14-1 in the...

Wait, why are we still talking about the Rhinish administration? :/

Ulrech, Viridus, Fluvannia, Greater Bastion, Holy Rhinish Islands, Knat, Logon

New Inglaterra wrote:I also picked your Vice President, you took Bastion because of my urging.

I also told you to select Gagium and NW for their positions.

I am the one who made you get off the couch and release a statement regarding the LCN.

I am the one who wrote your lines for the last debate.

I am the one who made you take action on the LCN.

I am the one who made you do your job.

The only times you made decisions independent of me are selecting COT for SecWar (fine choice, no?) and pushing the idea of WP for Head Journalist.

I intended to keep Gagium and NW, sire, ever since I released the Why Not to vote for Furby dispatch. You didn't make me do anything regarding the LCN, that was all my own volition. You didn't make me do my job at ALL.

Gagium, Knat

Noeah wrote:YES

UwU only if it's both ways

Gagium, Knat, Noeah

Meirshir wrote:90% of the "culture" is produced on discord. From what I understand, most of the culture-related bills were aimed at art, which is submitted on the discord.

Could it be done here instead?

Ibenta wrote:Are you suggesting that we have to care and even worry about the situation of his family? As harsh as this will sound, it really is not our problem if his parents don't allow him to use Discord. That's his personal problem.

Why not play nationstates on nationstates and not a website some people can't use. If I want to be a part of thing here why should I have to go somewhere else.

Requiring Discord reminds me of the "literacy tests" and "poll taxes" racists used against people of color in the past to vote. Something arbitrary to limit voters to the ones they wanted. If I don't have Discord is there anything I can do here to participate?

Why not have government in the forums where everyone can join in?

Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Knat

Gagium wrote:

Wait, why are we still talking about the Rhinish administration? :/

Still trying to process the abundant corruption and incompetence.

Or we're like people watching air crash investigations.

Gagium, Fluvannia, Knat

Suribachi wrote:Could it be done here instead?

Why not play nationstates on nationstates and not a website some people can't use. If I want to be a part of thing here why should I have to go somewhere else.

Requiring Discord reminds me of the "literacy tests" and "poll taxes" racists used against people of color in the past to vote. Something arbitrary to limit voters to the ones they wanted. If I don't have Discord is there anything I can do here to participate?

Why not have government in the forums where everyone can join in?

Because it is simply not as effective as using Discord for Government. I understand your concerns, but I do not see how to love our government onto Nationstates

Viridus, Gagium, Mietkael, Knat, Logon

Suribachi wrote:Could it be done here instead?

Why not play nationstates on nationstates and not a website some people can't use. If I want to be a part of thing here why should I have to go somewhere else.

Requiring Discord reminds me of the "literacy tests" and "poll taxes" racists used against people of color in the past to vote. Something arbitrary to limit voters to the ones they wanted. If I don't have Discord is there anything I can do here to participate?

Why not have government in the forums where everyone can join in?

Firstly, because an NS region is more vulnerable than Discord can ever be.

Secondly, because an NS RMB is not made for the same level of fast discussion as Discord allows.

Thirdly, requiring Discord is nowhere near as exclusionary as a poll tax or literacy test was. It's disgusting you would deign to compare the legitimate struggles of African Americans in a racist society to your parental restrictions or laziness to get a Discord, and in the case of the former, a proposal for exceptions to the Discord rule was written and ready to be proposed the moment CA-11-24 passed.

Gagium, Knat

Suribachi wrote:Could it be done here instead?

Why not play nationstates on nationstates and not a website some people can't use. If I want to be a part of thing here why should I have to go somewhere else.

Requiring Discord reminds me of the "literacy tests" and "poll taxes" racists used against people of color in the past to vote. Something arbitrary to limit voters to the ones they wanted. If I don't have Discord is there anything I can do here to participate?

Why not have government in the forums where everyone can join in?

Okay as an PoC I’m rather appalled that you’re comparing moving to discord to a literacy joining a free platform isn’t something difficult to do plus let’s not act like the general populace on NS is highly active...that being said I’ve thought of possible remedies to the situation however the bill didn’t pass so we’re back to square one

Gagium, Fluvannia, Mietkael, Knat, Logon

Suribachi wrote:Could it be done here instead?

Why not play nationstates on nationstates and not a website some people can't use. If I want to be a part of thing here why should I have to go somewhere else.

Requiring Discord reminds me of the "literacy tests" and "poll taxes" racists used against people of color in the past to vote. Something arbitrary to limit voters to the ones they wanted. If I don't have Discord is there anything I can do here to participate?

Why not have government in the forums where everyone can join in?

I smell a controlled opposition puppet.

Gagium, Fluvannia, Mietkael, Knat, Logon

San Carlos Islands wrote:I smell a controlled opposition puppet.

He was created around the time of the debate starting and moved to the FCN nearly immediately.

Hmm....

Gagium, Fluvannia, Mietkael, Knat

Logon wrote:He was created around the time of the debate starting and moved to the FCN nearly immediately.

Hmm....

Makes you :thonk: , huh?

Gagium, Fluvannia, Mietkael, Knat, Logon

Aglonia wrote:Because it is simply not as effective as using Discord for Government. I understand your concerns, but I do not see how to love our government onto Nationstates

If our Nationstates government isn't on Nationstates, it doesn't really seem like it's ours.

Logon wrote:Firstly, because an NS region is more vulnerable than Discord can ever be.

In what manner?

Logon wrote:Secondly, because an NS RMB is not made for the same level of fast discussion as Discord allows.

Judging from some of what I've seen here, thought-out might be more desirable than fast.

Logon wrote:Thirdly, requiring Discord is nowhere near as exclusionary as a poll tax or literacy test was. It's disgusting you would deign to compare the legitimate struggles of African Americans in a racist society to your parental restrictions or laziness to get a Discord, and in the case of the former, a proposal for exceptions to the Discord rule was written and ready to be proposed the moment CA-11-24 passed.

Speaking as an African American, I call it as I see it. You're quick to discount people's rights due to your own privileges, and call them lazy if they lack your privilege. Privileged people denied my grandparents the right to vote and when I see that attitude crop back up I won't be silent.

Viridus, Gagium

Are we still talking about the CA?

Viridus, Gagium, Logon

San Carlos Islands wrote:I smell a controlled opposition puppet.

I smell no argument.

Viridus, Gagium, Knat

Suribachi wrote:I smell no argument.

Nah. I've made pretty good arguments this whole debate. Try harder Rhiney, in-fact, stop Rhiney; you've already won.

Gagium, Knat

San Carlos Islands wrote:Nah. I've made pretty good arguments this whole debate. Try harder Rhiney, in-fact, stop Rhiney; you've already won.

So in your head your controlled opposition makes arguments AFTER winning? I think what I smelled was right.

Viridus, Gagium, Knat

Suribachi wrote:If our Nationstates government isn't on Nationstates, it doesn't really seem like it's ours.

In what manner?

Judging from some of what I've seen here, thought-out might be more desirable than fast.

Speaking as an African American, I call it as I see it. You're quick to discount people's rights due to your own privileges, and call them lazy if they lack your privilege. Privileged people denied my grandparents the right to vote and when I see that attitude crop back up I won't be silent.

1. An NS region can be raided much easier than a Discord can. If we're careful, we can make sure no raiding happens on the Discord. A Senate region could get raided tomorrow if it existed.

2. It is thought-out, but Discord allows for a much easier and faster method to talk. And how would you know if you aren't even in the Senate...? (*coughs* Puppet *coughs*)

3. And I'm an ethnic Jew so not only you should get off your high horse of thinking your ancestors were the only ones discriminated against, I'll say I'm allowed to call it how I see it, and what I see is a simple requirement for voting. I made a whole new Discord in just over three minutes. If you can't spend three minutes making an account to vote and participate, why should you even vote? A Solid South era discriminatory voting policy is not comparable to making someone get a Discord. In fact, getting a Discord is the internet version of having to drive to the polling place to vote. Is that so much to ask?

Gagium, Knat

Suribachi wrote:So in your head your controlled opposition makes arguments AFTER winning? I think what I smelled was right.

Yeah, because now you're using this to build NuNoPP.

Gagium, Knat, Logon

Logon wrote:1. An NS region can be raided much easier than a Discord can. If we're careful, we can make sure no raiding happens on the Discord. A Senate region could get raided tomorrow if it existed.

2. It is thought-out, but Discord allows for a much easier and faster method to talk. And how would you know if you aren't even in the Senate...? (*coughs* Puppet *coughs*)

3. And I'm an ethnic Jew so not only you should get off your high horse of thinking your ancestors were the only ones discriminated against, I'll say I'm allowed to call it how I see it, and what I see is a simple requirement for voting. I made a whole new Discord in just over three minutes. If you can't spend three minutes making an account to vote and participate, why should you even vote? A Solid South era discriminatory voting policy is not comparable to making someone get a Discord. In fact, getting a Discord is the internet version of having to drive to the polling place to vote. Is that so much to ask?

1. Can raiders delete what we say here or in the forums? No? So what's the problem?

2. Again, from what I've seen here fast doesn't equate to good.

3. Jews discriminate too. They built a nation to discriminate against Palestinians, walling them off like animals. Sorry if I don't sympathize with one of the most privileged groups of white people on the planet. And the rest of you wrote is so ridiculous now I know you aren't even reading what I wrote.

San Carlos Islands wrote:Yeah, because now you're using this to build NuNoPP.

And what is that?

Viridus, Gagium, Knat

Suribachi wrote:And what is that?

Don't play games with me Rhiney. You know you've blown it. lmao

Gagium, Logon

San Carlos Islands wrote:Don't play games with me Rhiney. You know you've blown it. lmao

I'll take that for you don't have an argument and I'm guessing you're the resident paranoid? Can anyone confirm?

Viridus, Gagium

I hereby pronounce San Carlos Islands to be No PP!

Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Logon, The Sladerstan

Suribachi wrote:I'll take that for you don't have an argument and I'm guessing you're the resident paranoid? Can anyone confirm?

No it's just so obvious you're a puppet

Gagium

What the frick happened here

Viridus, Gagium

Logon wrote:No it's just so obvious you're a puppet

I mean I looked you up here and apparently you just arrived from another region people are banned from. Maybe you're a puppet. Either way I guess I don't need to make my point because apparently "Rhiney" won already.

Here's what I'm talking about with you:

Logon wrote:I hope I can stay here boys, but given the whole LCN issue I can see why you’d kick me out if need ne

What is LCN and why would you be kicked out?

Gagium

Suribachi wrote:I mean I looked you up here and apparently you just arrived from another region people are banned from. Maybe you're a puppet. Either way I guess I don't need to make my point because apparently "Rhiney" won already.

Here's what I'm talking about with you:

What is LCN and why would you be kicked out?

I arrived several weeks ago, not a day and a half ago. The LCN is another region that is a dictatorship under their "Chief Consul" and they kicked me out when I called them out for spying on the FCN.

I was admitted as a refugee and was grandfathered in by the LCN Relations Act

Gagium

Logon wrote:I arrived several weeks ago, not a day and a half ago. The LCN is another region that is a dictatorship under their "Chief Consul" and they kicked me out when I called them out for spying on the FCN.

I was admitted as a refugee and was grandfathered in by the LCN Relations Act

You have 16.5 days on me so you have me there. If they're a dictatorship why were you there first?

Gagium

It seems like a good amount of you could use an FCN history lesson so I invite all of you to join the discord and participate in the newly created FCN university

Viridus, Gagium, Logon

Suribachi wrote:You have 16.5 days on me so you have me there. If they're a dictatorship why were you there first?

He's obviously an LCN spy. Reeeeee

Viridus, Gagium, Logon

Ah yes, the "You're a puppet!" "no u" wars

Liberated American Provinces, New Waldensia, Viridus

Liberated American Provinces wrote:He's obviously an LCN spy. Reeeeee

Wait but I thought I was NI 2.0?

Gagium

Liberated American Provinces wrote:He's obviously an LCN spy. Reeeeee

NO! I'm a LCN spy. :(

Liberated American Provinces, Gagium

Logon wrote:Wait but I thought I was NI 2.0?

Ok puppet

Gagium

San Carlos Islands wrote:NO! I'm a LCN spy. :(

Oh right. No PP, commie, and LCN spy. You should be banned!

Gagium

The Sladerstan wrote:You could've taken 300 less chapters off of that book you just wrote, and said it in a paragraph.

"We need to be on Discord out of necessity, and because raids are common on NS, we'd be destroyed if our government was only on NS. That is why we are on Discord and keep the government there. "

I love it when people can't respond with anything meaningful, so they complain about how much I type. It's a shame that some people aren't humble enough to admit that they have nothing substantive to reply with.

But in any case, Sladerstan ought to realize that what he says about my "book" could easily be said about any other speech in history. Why not, for example, condense Franklin Delano Roosevelt's speech to the Congress--following the attack on Pearl Harbor--to the line, "Japan is evil, and America shall declare war on her?" Obviously, who could possibly have the time or knowledge to actually listen to a seven-minute speech of multiple long pages and of several thousands of characters?

And how about John Fitzgerald Kennedy's 1962 speech at Rice University? Obviously, Kennedy should have just told the students and faculty members at that school's stadium, "We choose to go to the moon!" and have called it a day. I mean, truly. Who could possibly have listened to President Kennedy drone on for over eighteen minutes?

Sladerstan complains about me writing a three-hundred-word response. (He erroneously says "characters," but that's besides the point.) If he finds that long, how will he deal with the college environment where students are expected to write three-hundred-word assignments daily as easily if they were taking a nap? Truly, America's best universities are failing its youth by training them to read and write papers of over fifty pages in length! Congress and the Supreme Court should clearly not write legislation and judicial decisions that often span more than twenty pages!

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Oh, and by the way. A paragraph is normally a collection of four to five sentences. But yes, I know. That's clearly much too long. How could anyone possibly read four to five sentences!?

Gagium, Mietkael, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Sladerstan

Ibenta wrote:I love it when people can't respond with anything meaningful, so they complain about how much I type. It's a shame that some people aren't humble enough to admit that they have nothing substantive to reply with.

But in any case, Sladerstan ought to realize that what he says about my "book" could easily be said about any other speech in history. Why not, for example, condense Franklin Delano Roosevelt's speech to the Congress--following the attack on Pearl Harbor--to the line, "Japan is evil, and America shall declare war on her?" Obviously, who could possibly have the time or knowledge to actually listen to a seven-minute speech of multiple long pages and of several thousands of characters?

And how about John Fitzgerald Kennedy's 1962 speech at Rice University? Obviously, Kennedy should have just told the students and faculty members at that school's stadium, "We choose to go to the moon!" and have called it a day. I mean, truly. Who could possibly have listened to President Kennedy drone on for over eighteen minutes?

Sladerstan complains about me writing a three-hundred-word response. (He erroneously says "characters," but that's besides the point.) If he finds that long, how will he deal with the college environment where students are expected to write three-hundred-word assignments daily as easily if they were taking a nap? Truly, America's best universities are failing its youth by training them to read and write papers of over fifty pages in length! Congress and the Supreme Court should clearly not write legislation and judicial decisions that often span more than twenty pages!

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Oh, and by the way. A paragraph is normally a collection of four to five sentences. But yes, I know. That's clearly much too long. How could anyone possibly read four to five sentences!?

It's not that I can't read it, but I find it strange that you wrote me an entire document just to tell me that the government needs to stay on Discord.

Also, don't get ahead of yourself, we're on a website, not at the State of the Union address

Viridus, Gagium

Logon wrote:No it's just so obvious you're a puppet

Ironic

Gagium, Mietkael, The Sladerstan

Impeach Greater Bastion!

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Greater Bastion, The Sladerstan

Liberated American Provinces wrote:Impeach Greater Bastion!

Yes! Impeach me!

I am a communist, after all.

Liberated American Provinces, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, The Sladerstan

Greater Bastion wrote:Yes! Impeach me!

I am a communist, after all.

Yes!

Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Greater Bastion, The Sladerstan

Liberated American Provinces wrote:Impeach Greater Bastion!

I'd take Rhiney over Greater Bastion any day!

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Greater Bastion

The Sladerstan wrote:I'd take Rhiney over Greater Bastion any day!

You just posted cringe

Gagium, Fluvannia, Dragons Of Power, Greater Bastion, Mietkael, The Sladerstan

The Sladerstan wrote:I'd take Rhiney over Greater Bastion any day!

Well then you are lost!

New Waldensia, Gagium, Greater Bastion, The Sladerstan

The Sladerstan wrote:I'd take Rhiney over Greater Bastion any day!

This is the mark of an uninformed voter

Gagium, Fluvannia, Greater Bastion, The Sladerstan

Ulrech wrote:This is the mark of an uninformed voter

Ironic.

Viridus, Gagium

Ulrech wrote:This is the mark of an uninformed voter

uNiNfOrMeD because he doesn’t share your opinion, lol

Liberated American Provinces, Gagium, Greater Bastion, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Sladerstan

Viridus wrote:uNiNfOrMeD because he doesn’t share your opinion, lol

The best kind of uninformed

Viridus, Gagium, Greater Bastion, Holy Rhinish Islands

Hello!

Viridus, Gagium

Meirshir wrote:The senate is meant to make decisions. In the US, as I understand it, the senators vote in the senate, correct? That's the point of senators. Unless you literally want a peculiar form of anarchy (it probably has a name I don't know), how about we keep the senators - and senators only - to the senate?

Secondly, even Quebecshire mentioned in his recent post about me that I lied to him. Funny that he calls us obsessed...

Lastly, I'm not banned - yet. At least I'm not banned by legal terms, anyway.

No, you're banned from the region definitely. Don't return with this puppet or any other.

Furbish Islands, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, The Clone Republic, Dragons Of Power, Ibenta, San Carlos Islands, Greater Bastion, Mietkael, Logon, The Sladerstan, Lats Chribrudo

Nationstates Moderators wrote:No, you're banned from the region definitely. Don't return with this puppet or any other.

k

New Waldensia, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Logon, Lats Chribrudo

Nationstates Moderators wrote:No, you're banned from the region definitely. Don't return with this puppet or any other.

Bruh

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Logon, Lats Chribrudo

Nationstates Moderators wrote:No, you're banned from the region definitely. Don't return with this puppet or any other.

I'm gonna say it. Suribachi is a spam puppet owned by Holy Rhinish Islands.

:sadcoyboydabs:

Liberated American Provinces, Furbish Islands, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Mietkael, Logon

Post self-deleted by San Carlos Islands.

Nationstates Moderators wrote:No, you're banned from the region definitely. Don't return with this puppet or any other.

Oh

Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Fluvannia, Dragons Of Power, Mietkael, Logon, The Sladerstan

Nationstates Moderators wrote:No, you're banned from the region definitely. Don't return with this puppet or any other.

He’s awaiting trial!

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Greater Bastion

The mods just made that whole “trial” thing a lot easier

New Waldensia, Gagium, Fluvannia, Dragons Of Power, Logon, The Sladerstan

Viridus wrote:The mods just made that whole “trial” thing a lot easier

It’s like if God were to smite the defendant in a court case before the trial

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Dragons Of Power, Emerisis, The Sladerstan

The Sladerstan wrote:It's not that I can't read it, but I find it strange that you wrote me an entire document just to tell me that the government needs to stay on Discord.

Also, don't get ahead of yourself, we're on a website, not at the State of the Union address

When there are people in this region who legitimately believe that the entirety of the government should come to Nation States, it's not that strange. The NPP literally proposed bringing the entire government to Nation States at one point, and who knows what the DFP will propose.

As for your second, point. Sure, but this is coming from the person complaining about three hundred words. Obviously, I didn't write a State of the Union or a "book"--as you claimed.

Gagium, The Sladerstan

Liberated American Provinces wrote:You just posted cringe

No u

Fluvannia wrote:Well then you are lost!

I like Turtles

Ulrech wrote:This is the mark of an uninformed voter

I know what Rhiney did, I'm not brain dead.

Also, who was the Moderator talking about? What was Meirshir's main nation that was banned?

Gagium, Dragons Of Power

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