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Region: Federation of Conservative Nations
3,000 alone of American civilians at the twin Tower Crash more from the rest of the terriost attacks .
America had to defend itself what would your solution be with The terriost?
the war is 100% worth it if America decides not to lose. I want this war to be over too we have killed over 60% of the organization personal and until these terriost organizations disbanded,defect or surrendere then I hope 🤞 America doesnt withdraw. I hope America will be fully committed to bring again hope,Democracy and republic and more respect to women. in Afghanistan 🇦🇫 nation building does have a perk . I dream to be a Soldier Not a POltian
https://www.voanews.com/usa/us-politics/pompeo-trump-correctly-called-taliban-talks-because-its-terrorist-attacks
last and final according to this article the Taliban protected Al-Qaida Training camps and bases against us troops
Gagium, Eldrado
With so many different nations arriving in the region. Come join Discord and apply for the Senate. More interaction and more fun. Participate and let your voice be heard.
In saying that the ADP is looking for active members to come and join the party... tg me if interested.
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=west_phoenicia/detail=factbook/id=1235239
Gagium, Eldrado
2) None of this would have happened if the Clinton Administration hadnt blocked intel communication between the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Central Intelligence Agency. The pervious administration had multiple opportunities to kill Osama, but restrained from doing so.
3) I know your a non-interventionist Third Positionist, so if the United States withdraws from it commitments from around the world, who would fill the power vacuum, and would it be to our interest?
Confederate Farmers, Furbish Islands, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, Hodelia
In ww2 the alles killed far more civilians in the bombing campaign then the Germans did
Viridus, Eldrado, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, Hodelia
American culture is very sensitive to casualties. https://ssi.armywarcollege.edu/pubs/parameters/articles/96summer/sapolsky.htm
Most of Americas overseas engagements since Vietnam have been politicized, never actually effectively executed by any administration.
|Side Note Keep the comments civil, try not to take anything in the debating engagement to heart.|
Confederate Farmers, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, Hodelia
1. Cool, doesn't change the fact that his administration lied in so many different circumstances to conduct its Middle East policy.
2. "Mullah Omar, the Talibans founder, opposed the international activities of Osama bin Laden." "Taliban fighters are certainly not terrorists in the traditional sense of the word, like al-Qaeda fighters are."
3. I'm actually a Third Positionist, Nationalistic, Reactionary, Populist... "Unpatriotic" huh? Nice Ad Hominem fallacy. Little do you know I'm one of the few actual patriots left, surely more patriotic than you. It's rather unpatriotic to cheer on soldiers dying in endless wars against non-existent enemies in countries we shouldn't be intervening in.
4. Implying I support the Vietnam war; I don't, It was a waste of money and American lives.
5. The Taliban wasn't nor isn't aggressive against America. They're fighting us because we decided to fight them. "Maybe we're the baddies."
6. They still harbored him at a time. By your logic why didn't we turn Pakistan into rubble?
7. It didn't start with Obama; and just because he was back doesn't mean he did anything to stop it. Blood is on his hands as much as it is on Bush's or Clinton's or Reagan's etc. American Imperialism has been alive and well since our nation's inception.
8. "Iran" don't put words into my mouth, I never brought Iran up.
9. Saddam was key to the stability of the region and taking him out was a mistake.
1. I fail to see how 3,000 lives was worth 6,000 more American lives, tens of thousands more American livelihoods, hundreds of thousands of Middle Eastern lives, and $5 trillion.
2. Again, you're not reading my posts, two times now I have said we should fight terror proactively not reactively and have given numerous examples of how to do that. Maybe those words are two big for you to understand though.
3. I never said I supported democracy and freedom in the Middle East; in fact, those two ideals have destroyed the place and have lead to terrorism growing there in the first place.
4. Note the terror attacks you're talking about were in Afghanistan against an invading army, not here in the West. It's a totally different scenario.
5. Stop trying to link Al-Qaeda to the Taliban as the same thing or somehow allies. In fact, I'll throw a new bone into this argument. "Mullah Omar, the Talibans founder, opposed the international activities of Osama bin Laden."
1. Yes, and? Any simple weigh mechanism would show that we lost way more than we should of to "Avenge the victims of 9/11." Also, a lot of these killings are directly on our troop's hands. Killing civilians to take out a target is unexcusable.
2. And that's part of my argument, that would have been a proactive response back then rather than reactive.
3. Probably Russia or China or any other regional power like Pakistan or India as some retired 4-Star General said (Can't find his name, he was on Tucker Carlson when I was listening to him). They have much more stake in the region than we do, but they sit and let us "keep the peace" there so they don't have to do it. Let's turn the tide.
1. I never said America's intervention in World War Two was a good thing, lmao.
Washingtonian Republic, Gagium, Eldrado, Polish Prussian Commonwealth
You should look at my pervious post concerning American strategic theory and sensitivity to war casualties from the Army War College (civilian or combatant). In comparison to the Russians or Chinese, were weak. A Chinese General (I dont remember his name at the monument) said that Americans sensitivity to causalities is an area to exploited.
Confederate Farmers, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, Hodelia
"Bush lied, people died."
-Donald Trump
Washingtonian Republic, Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, Hodelia
Why is there such a correlation between Bolton-esque NeoCon ideology and spelling/grammar errors?
Confederate Farmers, Washingtonian Republic, Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, Hodelia
Lol, this.
Washingtonian Republic, Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado, Polish Prussian Commonwealth
No one bothers to reread their posts for grammar errors. Its an effect of texting and the destruction of the English Language.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado
Yeah, us Grammar Police need to stick together and enlighten the region on the matters of proper spelling
Washingtonian Republic, New Waldensia, Gagium, Eldrado, Hodelia
Forgot a period.
Washingtonian Republic, New Waldensia, Gagium, Eldrado
You forgot a "You" before "forgot"
New Waldensia, Gagium, Eldrado
You forgot another period.
Washingtonian Republic, New Waldensia, Gagium, Eldrado
Nah
Washingtonian Republic, Gagium, Eldrado
1. You shouldn't use slang.
2. You keep forgetting your periods.
Gagium, Eldrado
I'm not forgetting since it's intentional
Gagium, Eldrado
Bro, you just posted cringe
New Waldensia, Viridus, Eldrado, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, Hodelia
"Radical Islamic terrorists aren't the problem, America is (And so are the Jews!!!1), but I'm one of the last patriots left!!!!!!!!!111111"
New Waldensia, Gagium, Eldrado, Polish Prussian Commonwealth
True, plus "I never said America's intervention in World War Two was a good thing"
Viridus, Eldrado
You just had a boomer moment.
Washingtonian Republic, Gagium, Eldrado
yOu JuSt HaD aN r-TaRd MoMeNt
Gagium, Eldrado
Fitting. My brain is very smol after all.
Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado
Everyone vote Dixiecrat to flex on the minorities!
Confederate Farmers, Gagium
Ok
Liberated American Provinces, Eldrado
Very cool
Gagium, Eldrado
America should not be that sensitive to casualties,because only 5,000 dying isnt bad compared ww2
No Ive been reading your post please tell me specifically what America should have been during Afghanistan 🇦🇫 After 9/11 ur specific plans.
2 If you cant defend your country in at least 1 Just war or a war that u cant label just then you are not patriotic.
Well if America truly wanted to we probably could have avoided going to war with the the Ittilian/German alliance in ww2 has we been truly isolationist and just have fought Japan 🇯🇵 When they attacked peril harbor. But we already gave aid to Britain 🇬🇧 and later the Soviet Union. Hitler/ Italy 🇮🇹 declared war on the United States 🇺🇸 because Japan 🇯🇵 was their Allie.
3 Honestly we should have toppled Saddam dureing the Gulf war or at least after bush had been re-elected . Why? I feel sorry for all of The dictators Victims including the soldiers that where glad to be captured on the American news and the Kurds
4 I will say the Al-Qaida and tailban alliance if its true. But I need to do my research
5 u kinda sound you are being blinded about the facts ,but we shall see about that
Gagium, Eldrado
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I literally just quoted SCI...?
Confederate Farmers, Gagium, Eldrado
Hi
Confederate Farmers, Viridus, Gagium, Libervalley, Eldrado, Hodelia
Hi there I am not exactly sure how do you rule a country but hey I'll have time to learn
Liberated American Provinces, Confederate Farmers, Tesyky, Viridus, Gagium, Libervalley, Eldrado, Hodelia
You dont, you accept our colonial overlords >:)
Welcome!
Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Eldrado, Hodelia
Wait a minute . . .
Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado, Hodelia, Iron Guard Isles
Yes, no maybe
As I said, I am new.
Tesyky, Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado, Hodelia
So can anyone tell me what can you do in this game?
Liberated American Provinces, Tesyky, Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado, Hodelia
Yeah, sure! Have you read this yet?
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=869404
The Rouge Christmas State, Viridus, Eldrado, Hodelia
Basically answer the issues and interact with other people through regions
Also: https://www.nationstates.net/page=faq
Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado, Hodelia
Watching football, I'll respond to Small Brain Bolton's post when the games end.
In the meantime, get out and vote for Thurmond. American problems require Southern solutions.
Confederate Farmers, Gagium, Eldrado
Don't make me burn Atlanta to the ground again
Gagium, Eldrado
Modern declarations and laws against war crimes: Am I a joke to you?
Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Eldrado, Iron Guard Isles
It's not a war crime if it's in the South :)
Gagium
I voted 🗳 for Truman
1 hes some one I can relate to hes from Missouri
2 im interested in his Pro farmers agenda
Gagium, Hodelia
Makes sense tbh
Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, Hodelia
That's a bruh moment if I ever saw one
Gagium
S M O L B R A I N
Liberated American Provinces, Viridus
If Trump invades Iran will there be a draft?
Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth
Doubtful unless it got really serious
Viridus, Gagium
Others: China isnt really communist!
Me: https://bitterwinter.org/xi-jinpings-quotes-replace-the-ten-commandments/
Viridus
You got me at smaller government and fewer taxes................ But I am only going for stats as quickly as possible and in this game, the best way to do that is to just increase spending. So, for a smaller nation, I am pretty good :)
Touché.
But I think I am generally self-sufficient so :dab:
Viridus, Gagium, Paleoconservative Citizens
"Gee it's almost like we committed an unprecedented act(abolishing Prussia), gave vast swathes of Eastern Europe to Russia, allowed the Red Army to commit mass raped on Pole, German, and Ukrainian alike, in a conflict that resulted from the mistake that was US intervention in WW1"
to clarify-While not against US involvement in WW2, I think that it could have been handled far better and Gen. Patton did nothing wrong.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado
Good thing we didnt!
Id look more into the numbers of troops the reds had in Europe compared to western forces before saying we let them do anything, unless youre advocating for the essential suicide of millions of American & allied soldiers lives
Viridus, Eldrado, Hodelia
i thought the red army did that
Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado, Ferlik, Hodelia
Post by Furbish Islands suppressed by a moderator.
Man... most of the economy is still under the government's control.......... I agree with you in saying that it is authoritarian but it still embodies a lot of Communistic ideals
Viridus, Gagium
Post by Furbish Islands suppressed by a moderator.
State capitalism is technically a joke.
Viridus, Enclave Patriots, Hodelia
Oh for God's sake, damn raiders in NCO
Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado, Hodelia
I swear those raiders are like roaches.. It's always a "Catgirl Division" nation... I'll just ban every single Catgirl Division.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado, Hodelia
Sh*t! Is he on to me?
Gagium, Eldrado, Paleoconservative Citizens
WEEEEE OOOOO WEEEEE OOOOOO N-DAY N-DAY
New Waldensia, Tesyky, Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado, Hodelia
Help a pretty girl is talking to me and I'm scared
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Viridus, Gagium, Enclave Patriots, Eldrado
I didn't know you were a cat girl
Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado
Tehran Conference, 1943.
Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado
Both the British and Americans had plans to break it that never happened because the Soviets outnumbered us by several times...Again dunno what you wanted us to do. Kill millions of our own and leave Eastern Europe in poverty anyways due to war damage?
Furbish Islands, Viridus
Eastern Europe got the short end of the stick that's for sure.......... allying with Stalin was a necessary evil but the fact remains that the rest of the allies sort of gave eastern Europe to him....
Viridus, Gagium, Iron Guard Isles
I think it was Operation Bagration.
Viridus, Gagium
How could they "give" what they didn't control? Unless by "gave" you mean "knew he would overrun and agreed not to start a new world war with him over," in which case I can't disagree with their common sense. Why condemn another 60 million people to death?
Gagium, Eldrado
nah it was just FDR deepthroating Uncle Joe a little too much
Gagium
such bitterness lol
Viridus, Gagium
I have a battle drill this week so I wont be back on until Friday.
Viridus, Gagium, Enclave Patriots, Hodelia
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Hello, fellow Conservatives. Its good to be back!
Viridus, Gagium, Paleoconservative Citizens, Hodelia
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Are you U.S. Army or Marines?
Viridus, Gagium, Paleoconservative Citizens, Hodelia
I like eggs
Gagium
Furbish Islands, Viridus, Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth
Oh good, he's just stupid
Gagium, Paleoconservative Citizens
Post by Furbish Islands suppressed by a moderator.
I will have you know I can spell 2 + 2
tu brus tu
Gagium, Enclave Patriots
I like Ike
Viridus, Gagium, Enclave Patriots
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President Eshinhower is one of my favorite U.S. presidents!
Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Gagium, The Legion Of Mankind
Post by Furbish Islands suppressed by a moderator.
Isnt my favorite cause that goes to Lincoln, but Ike is definitely up there.
Gagium, Enclave Patriots
What did Lincoln do that makes him the best?
Viridus
N-DAY⁴ is coming!!!!!!
The Rouge Christmas State, Furbish Islands, Viridus, Gagium, Enclave Patriots, Monkaslavia, Paleoconservative Citizens
Happy couptember
Viridus, Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth
Post by Furbish Islands suppressed by a moderator.
President Dwight D. Eshinhower lead our great country was at its greatest, cleaned up the mess Truman made in Korea, ordered the construction Interstate Highway System, signed an executive order creating NASA, and truly believing in America and its people.
Viridus, Gagium
N-Day already here? Must mean z-day is around the corner. NS time flies by.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Paleoconservative Citizens
Post by Furbish Islands suppressed by a moderator.
By the way, [nation=short]Furbish Islands[/nation] there was nothing wrong in creating the Interstate Highway System. It greatly benefited the U.S. in many ways from repairing and replacing badly run down dirt roads with brand new highways, shortening distances to traveling to diffrent places around the nation, and improving the defense and logistical capabilities of the U.S. Air Force by connecting all of its Bases in the contiguous 48 states.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium
[spoiler=Don't click this]Can you send me chicken? [/spoiler]
Viridus, Gagium, Enclave Patriots
Ironic, I I just finished typing up something on that when you posted this.
Furbish Islands, Viridus, Gagium, Paleoconservative Citizens
Post by Furbish Islands suppressed by a moderator.
Sorry, we only mail within the FCN.
Viridus, Paleoconservative Citizens
Aww man
Can I at least have a complimentary butter roll?
Gagium
That is true that trains have similar benefits in shortening distance and defense. However, a single highway route can carry hundreds of cars and in turn can carry thousands of people way more than a single train, and not to mention, cars are more than your average train. Also, those statistics are probably recent and thus do not reflect the drivers of the 1950s.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium
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Viridus
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