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Quebecshire wrote:You aren't circumnavigating anything. When Monkaslavia and I were discussing the 5 Points, we specifically chose to word the clause to ban you the player, not just the nations we had already seen from you. Your immaturity and continual attempts to violate the ban in either region will continue to be met with, surprise, more bans.

I don't know what you expect by disrespecting the agreement, and by disrespecting this region's government so much, but whatever you expect, it will only bring you further resentment and banishment.

And possible mod intervention if necessary

Dresderstan, Quebecshire, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, New Fcn Algerstonia

WE DID IT

969

969

969

NOW ONWARDS, TO 1000

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Washingtonian Republic wrote:And possible mod intervention if necessary

First post of page 969..:Lol: :joy: Very cool Washingtonian!

Polish Prussian Commonwealth wrote:WE DID IT

969

969

969

NOW ONWARDS, TO 1000

#roadto1000 #roadto1776

Viridus, Dragons Of Power, Lovelton

#roadto1000

Confederate Farmers, Viridus, Dragons Of Power, Paleoconservative Citizens

Gagium wrote:You know what else is slippery when wet?

:weary:

Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Viridus wrote::weary:

It doesn't begin with a c

Viridus, Dragons Of Power

Gagium wrote:Jakobly, please send some more puppets! #roadto1000

Let’s pardon him and tell him he may come back please?

Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Gagium wrote:It doesn't begin with a c

Oh, that's too bad...

Confederate Farmers wrote:Let’s pardon him and tell him he may come back please?

Nah

Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Mietkael

Viridus wrote:Oh, that's too bad...

:sadcowboydabs:

Viridus, Dragons Of Power

Gagium wrote::sadcowboydabs:

oh

Gagium, Dragons Of Power

I'm going to contribute to the march to 1000

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Sufokia wrote:I'm going to contribute to the march to 1000

Yes!

#roadto1000

Viridus, Dragons Of Power

What rhymes with cat?

Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Novo Abrahamia wrote:What rhymes with cat?

A variety of things, gnat, bat, fat, acrobat, yourmomisfat...

Furbish Islands, Viridus, Dragons Of Power

Ha ha! I like the last one :-)

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Gagium wrote::sadcowboydabs:

I mean, it's true though, even if it's not the answer you were looking for...

Gagium, Dragons Of Power

hey

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Hello Bois. How do you guys explain to the mods when one of your friends try NS on your laptop, create a new nation, and move it to a region where you're banned from?

My friend tried NS here on my laptop and moved to the region where i'm banned from, and today i got a telegram telling me if i continued to ignore the ban my main nation here would get delated. Any tips?

Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Minelegotia And Equestria wrote:Hello Bois. How do you guys explain to the mods when one of your friends try NS on your laptop, create a new nation, and move it to a region where you're banned from?

My friend tried NS here on my laptop and moved to the region where i'm banned from, and today i got a telegram telling me if i continued to ignore the ban my main nation here would get delated. Any tips?

Tell him to move his nation to another region.

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Minelegotia And Equestria wrote:Hello Bois. How do you guys explain to the mods when one of your friends try NS on your laptop, create a new nation, and move it to a region where you're banned from?

My friend tried NS here on my laptop and moved to the region where i'm banned from, and today i got a telegram telling me if i continued to ignore the ban my main nation here would get delated. Any tips?

The mods won't care about your excuse. Just listen to them and move on.

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Minelegotia And Equestria wrote:My friend tried NS here on my laptop and moved to the region where i'm banned from, and today i got a telegram telling me if i continued to ignore the ban my main nation here would get delated. Any tips?

Tell your friend to use a different device than yours...

#roadto1000

Confederate Farmers, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Gagium wrote::Lol: :fire: :100: :joy:

deez nuts on your chin

Gagium, Dragons Of Power

969 huehuehue

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power

The Reddington States wrote:969 huehuehue

Yes

The Reddington States wrote:deez nuts on your chin

:fire: :fire,

The Reddington States, Dragons Of Power

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Mietkael

My economy is at its highest ever level. This is truly a gamer moment.

Confederate Farmers, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Paleoconservative Citizens

So what's going on here? Still dabbing on Farkasfalka I see

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, The Reddington States, Rivine, Dragons Of Power, Mietkael

Jus wrote:So what's going on here? Still dabbing on Farkasfalka I see

Welcome back! We've got an Olympics coming up. https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1225041

Confederate Farmers, Viridus, Gagium, Rivine, Dragons Of Power, Jus, New Fcn Algerstonia

I was going to go to sleep, but bitcoin is not letting me. It went through $12.5k like it was nothing a few minutes ago

Confederate Farmers, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, The Reddington States, Rivine, Dragons Of Power

Jus wrote:So what's going on here? Still dabbing on Farkasfalka I see

It's nice to see a familiar face return, if only for the time being. I hope your Summer has been good so far

Confederate Farmers, New Waldensia, Gagium, The Reddington States, Dragons Of Power, Jus

Jus wrote:I was going to go to sleep, but bitcoin is not letting me. It went through $12.5k like it was nothing a few minutes ago

Wait. Bitcoin is back from the dead again?

Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Jus

New Waldensia wrote:Wait. Bitcoin is back from the dead again?

10K AUD to 18K AUD in two weeks.

Liberated American Provinces, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Jus

Hello

Viridus, Gagium, New Fcn Algerstonia

New Waldensia wrote:Wait. Bitcoin is back from the dead again?

Indeed. Went up by over $1000 today

Confederate Farmers, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Jus

Jakobly 2 wrote:to circumnavigate the ban....or not

that is the question

Sorry but no. You've been banned and will continue to be met with bans until there are no longer any variations of Jakobly.

Viridus, Gagium

New Waldensia wrote:... and West Phoenicia submits the first delegation of athletes to the FCN Olympics!

So if anyone is unsure, copy my format but not my stats. Lol

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium

Monkaslavia wrote:Sorry but no. You've been banned and will continue to be met with bans until there are no longer any variations of Jakobly.

You can contact the mods if he continues to try to get around his ban (that's a no-no on NS)

Gagium, Monkaslavia

West Phoenicia wrote:So if anyone is unsure, copy my format but not my stats. Lol

Gotcha..

New Waldensia

Bump, bump, #roadto1000

Viridus, Paleoconservative Citizens

Jus wrote:So what's going on here? Still dabbing on Farkasfalka I see

Ah cool, you're back! How's your summer been?

Jus

Gagium wrote:Ah cool, you're back! How's your summer been?

It's been alright. Just working and casually investing in bitcoin. Going on vacation in about a week, so that'll be a relief.

New Waldensia, Gagium

Liberated American Provinces wrote:Indeed. Went up by over $1000 today

And everyone is hoping it'll "moon" this time. There's predications saying it can reach $50k/btc! Don't sell, must hodl.

Liberated American Provinces, New Waldensia, Gagium

Jus wrote:It's been alright. Just working and casually investing in bitcoin. Going on vacation in about a week, so that'll be a relief.

I'm headed out Friday for a family trip as well.

Jus wrote:And everyone is hoping it'll "moon" this time. There's predications saying it can reach $50k/btc! Don't sell, must hodl.

Thing is, that prediction has been haunting Bitcoin for years. It just feels a little bit "boy who cried wolf". [Strike]Also, I should have put my $65 in Bitcoin instead of Litecoin and Ethereum. Turned into $110 (which I then withdrew) but could have been $500+ in Bitcoin. RIP.

Liberated American Provinces, Gagium, Jus

Wouldn't it be nice if all of us here were to run our own Real Life country? Not separate countries, but One Conservative Nation?

New Waldensia, Gagium, Rivine, Dragons Of Power

Paleoconservative Citizens wrote:Wouldn't it be nice if all of us here were to run our own Real Life country? Not separate countries, but One Conservative Nation?

Sometimes I just want to gather up some friends and family, buy a plot of land, and treat it like our own little micronation. Pretty sure that's how you start cults tho

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Rivine, Dragons Of Power, Paleoconservative Citizens

Paleoconservative Citizens wrote:Wouldn't it be nice if all of us here were to run our own Real Life country? Not separate countries, but One Conservative Nation?

Yes. Let Okasian rule over his own province!

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Jus wrote:Sometimes I just want to gather up some friends and family, buy a plot of land, and treat it like our own little micronation. Pretty sure that's how you start cults tho

You call it a cult, I'll call it a patriotic American militia...hell yeah!

Viridus, Dragons Of Power, Jus, Paleoconservative Citizens

Gagium wrote:You call it a cult, I'll call it a patriotic American militia...hell yeah!

Just remember guys, when the Feds start knocking, run to the suicide tents

Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Gagium, The Legion Of Mankind, Dragons Of Power, Paleoconservative Citizens

Jus wrote:And everyone is hoping it'll "moon" this time. There's predications saying it can reach $50k/btc! Don't sell, must hodl.

Have you seen the video "B O G G E D"?

Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Post self-deleted by Deplorable America.

Jus wrote:Just remember guys, when the Feds start knocking, run to the suicide tents

Yes!

Dragons Of Power

Jus wrote:Sometimes I just want to gather up some friends and family, buy a plot of land, and treat it like our own little micronation. Pretty sure that's how you start cults tho

Sometimes I feel like I wanna buy a small land, perhaps 10 miles, and get a few thousand people (or hundred if I am lucky) and forge my own Republic, slowly expanding. But the main problems would be: Money, Money, and Money.

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Jus

Paleoconservative Citizens wrote:Sometimes I feel like I wanna buy a small land, perhaps 10 miles, and get a few thousand people (or hundred if I am lucky) and forge my own Republic, slowly expanding. But the main problems would be: Money, Money, and Money.

Just commit income tax fraud

Liberated American Provinces, Viridus

Gagium wrote:Just commit income tax fraud

And then America will commit Jail - Paleoconservative Leader

Viridus, Gagium, Jus

Post by Furbish Islands suppressed by a moderator.

Paleoconservative Citizens wrote:And then America will commit Jail - Paleoconservative Leader

:dab: :dab:

Viridus, Paleoconservative Citizens

Gagium wrote::dab: :dab:

same

Viridus, Gagium

Jus wrote:Just remember guys, when the Feds start knocking, run to the suicide tents

Juuuuuuus

Viridus, Gagium, Jus

Hi, I'm Libernovusamericae. I moved a puppet here, so I can still talk about stuff here.

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, New Fcn Algerstonia

Post by Furbish Islands suppressed by a moderator.

Furbish Islands wrote:You should join the FCN Olympics with this nation

Absolutely.

Also, #roadto1000

Viridus, Gagium, Lna The Resident

New Waldensia wrote:Absolutely.

Also, #roadto1000

29 pages away.

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium

Lna The Resident wrote:29 pages away.

We shall achieve this by July 4th, or so help us. #roadto1000

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Lna The Resident

We have a new poll in Lardyland!

What do you think about the recent events concerning r/The_Donald being quarantined?

Come on over and tell us your opinion!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=144363

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power

New Waldensia wrote:We shall achieve this by July 4th, or so help us. #roadto1000

We shall surely make it 1000

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Me: I wonder what the first post was

Pietropaolo wrote:Duck me in the ass cus I love jeesssuuuuuussssss

Also me: Why did I even look?

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Polish Prussian Commonwealth

According to the stupidly programmed NS stats, I rank amongst the highest in this region for many things.

Viridus, Gagium, Rivine, Dragons Of Power, New Fcn Algerstonia

Lna The Resident wrote:According to the stupidly programmed NS stats, I rank amongst the highest in this region for many things.

Economic freedom, wealth gaps, and civil rights? Nice..and weird

Viridus, Rivine, Dragons Of Power, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, New Fcn Algerstonia, Lna The Resident

Gagium wrote:Economic freedom, wealth gaps, and civil rights? Nice..and weird

I don't have a police force. I wonder what my fictional citizens would think about that.

Somehow, my crime rate is lower than yours.

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, New Fcn Algerstonia

Lna The Resident wrote:I don't have a police force. I wonder what my fictional citizens would think about that.

Somehow, my crime rate is lower than yours.

It's probably lower because no one can report crime to anybody. Therefore, crime rate would seem to drop due to lack of reports.

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, New Fcn Algerstonia, Mietkael

Paleoconservative Citizens wrote:We shall surely make it 1000

Achieve it on July 4th gang

New Waldensia, Gagium

New Waldensia wrote:We shall achieve this by July 4th, or so help us. #roadto1000

We still have around 703 posts left before we get to page 1000, so idk...

New Waldensia, Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Viridus wrote:We still have around 703 posts left before we get to page 1000, so idk...

Ah, that’s not hot, that’s not hot at all..

Viridus, Dragons Of Power

Post by Furbish Islands suppressed by a moderator.

Democratic debate so bad. Pretty much just “upper 1%” and “rich greedy corporations”...Also illegal immigration shouldn’t be illegal. ??

Viridus, Dragons Of Power, New Fcn Algerstonia

Gagium wrote:Ah, that’s not hot, that’s not hot at all..

At our current rate, we'll be about 4 pages short on July 4th, we might reach page 1000 during the day because I imagine there's going to be a boost in activity, but idk

Gagium, Dragons Of Power

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChapoTrapHouse/comments/c5q6hu/very_normal_sub/

Don’t mind the comments (this was the only place I could find), but gonna be honest... I really, really, really, really hope so. And I will sleep fine, thank you :).

Gagium

If anyone gets triggered, just know that I sincerely apologize on the behalf of all Americans for us actually enforcing our immigration laws like every other nation with borders.

Viridus, Gagium, Paleoconservative Citizens

Deplorable America wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/ChapoTrapHouse/comments/c5q6hu/very_normal_sub/

Don’t mind the comments (this was the only place I could find), but gonna be honest... I really, really, really, really hope so. And I will sleep fine, thank you :).

Deplorable America wrote:If anyone gets triggered, just know that I sincerely apologize on the behalf of all Americans for us actually enforcing our immigration laws like every other nation with borders.

Don’t apologize on my behalf. What’s going on at that border is atrocious and has no place in any civilized nation whatsoever. I’m not “triggered” as you so eloquently put, just calling out the horrid treatment of children by a nation purportedly founded on freedom. I guess it’s fine though. I mean, it’s not like they’re our children, no?

For the LORD’s opinion on this matter, see the following:

- 3 John 1:5

- Deuteronomy 10:19

- Leviticus 19:34

- Exodus 23:9

- Malachi 3:5

- Matthew 25:35

- Romans 12:13

- Colossians 3:11

- Job 31:32

There’s more, if you want.

Gagium

Americolumbia wrote:Don’t apologize on my behalf. What’s going on at that border is atrocious and has no place in any civilized nation whatsoever. I’m not “triggered” as you so eloquently put, just calling out the horrid treatment of children by a nation purportedly founded on freedom. I guess it’s fine though. I mean, it’s not like they’re our children, no?

For the LORD’s opinion on this matter, see the following:

- 3 John 1:5

- Deuteronomy 10:19

- Leviticus 19:34

- Exodus 23:9

- Malachi 3:5

- Matthew 25:35

- Romans 12:13

- Colossians 3:11

- Job 31:32

There’s more, if you want.

>Christian

>Socialist

Pick one.

Viridus, Gagium, Mietkael

Deplorable America wrote:>Christian

>Socialist

Pick one.

>Following Christ

>Putting children in cages

You pick.

Viridus, Gagium

Americolumbia wrote:>Following Christ

>Putting children in cages

You pick.

I think this is all coming from a misunderstanding of Scripture. Christians (as per the apostle Paul’s writings in Romans) are to obey the law of the land so long as we are free to worship Christ in freedom and peace. The United States was founded upon the basic freedom to worship as one pleased, unlike in Europe where state-ran churches dominated. If someone wishes to immigrate to the U.S. they can do so legally as my ancestors (and I assume yours) did, without putting their children in the situation in the first place. If you violate the law you must expect the consequences, and we followers of Jesus must respect that. Just because their country is a sh*thole doesn’t mean they should come and make America one as well, but it is in the interest of everyone involved that they remain and work to make their country as great as we are. Anyone who chooses to hide behind their child as a political pawn is a terrible parent, period.

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Paleoconservative Citizens

Deplorable America wrote:I think this is all coming from a misunderstanding of Scripture. Christians (as per the apostle Paul’s writings in Romans) are to obey the law of the land so long as we are free to worship Christ in freedom and peace. The United States was founded upon the basic freedom to worship as one pleased, unlike in Europe where state-ran churches dominated. If someone wishes to immigrate to the U.S. they can do so legally as my ancestors (and I assume yours) did, without putting their children in the situation in the first place. If you violate the law you must expect the consequences, and we followers of Jesus must respect that. Just because their country is a sh*thole doesn’t mean they should come and make America one as well, but it is in the interest of everyone involved that they remain and work to make their country as great as we are. Anyone who chooses to hide behind their child as a political pawn is a terrible parent, period.

The law itself is not inherently moral, but is decided by people in power who do with as they please, the welfare of the people beneath them be darned. Choosing to ignore the plight of innocents (regardless of their legal statuses) simply because your church isn’t personally oppressed is neglecting the “least of these,” who Jesus commanded us to advocate for. You see these migrants as moochers and opportunists, but you fail to realize that they are people like yourself, made in God’s image. They have the same motives as yourself when you seek the welfare of your own family and loved ones, and their nationality does not change that simple fact. National identities were not in God’s original design for mankind, but only developed later on as man slipped further from God. They are not the original design for us.

Also, as a student of history, I can tell you that the primary reason many of these people come from poor nations is because American actions made them that way. We did back the military coup in Honduras, and we have a long history of subverting democratic governments because they don’t give in to American demands.

Gagium

Americolumbia wrote:Don’t apologize on my behalf. What’s going on at that border is atrocious and has no place in any civilized nation whatsoever. I’m not “triggered” as you so eloquently put, just calling out the horrid treatment of children by a nation purportedly founded on freedom. I guess it’s fine though. I mean, it’s not like they’re our children, no?

For the LORD’s opinion on this matter, see the following:

- 3 John 1:5

- Deuteronomy 10:19

- Leviticus 19:34

- Exodus 23:9

- Malachi 3:5

- Matthew 25:35

- Romans 12:13

- Colossians 3:11

- Job 31:32

There’s more, if you want.

Apply your flawed logic to your own home.

Let's say Some dude broke into your home to steal your money. What would you do? Put him in Jail! He broke into your home! Now, he could've asked you for money correct? Well same applies to the border. You break into our country, don't expect a nice welcome party, you will be met the force and will tossed back outside.

Also the Bible verses you mentioned were irrelevant to our Nation.

Viridus, Gagium, Mietkael

Americolumbia wrote:The law itself is not inherently moral, but is decided by people in power who do with as they please, the welfare of the people beneath them be darned. Choosing to ignore the plight of innocents (regardless of their legal statuses) simply because your church isn’t personally oppressed is neglecting the “least of these,” who Jesus commanded us to advocate for. You see these migrants as moochers and opportunists, but you fail to realize that they are people like yourself, made in God’s image. They have the same motives as yourself when you seek the welfare of your own family and loved ones, and their nationality does not change that simple fact. National identities were not in God’s original design for mankind, but only developed later on as man slipped further from God. They are not the original design for us.

Also, as a student of history, I can tell you that the primary reason many of these people come from poor nations is because American actions made them that way. We did back the military coup in Honduras, and we have a long history of subverting democratic governments because they don’t give in to American demands.

If you were actually a student of history then you would know that whenever Socialist doctrine comes to power the “least of these” are always its most common victims. The Soviet Union engineered famines in the Ukraine, persecuted the Church relentlessly, crushed human dignity, and other horrible atrocities that far outweigh the standard of protocol on the southern border. With the evidence of Communism’s obvious dangers, is it any wonder why we saw fit to engage in those countries? Is it not moral to ensure those people have equal access to freedom? No Socialist can answer these questions honestly, because their socialism demands they disregard the suffering of “privileged” people and opponents.

Secondly, if I were a migrant from one of those countries ruined by their own socialist nonsense, I would simply do what countless millions did before: do it legally. That’s all I’m angry about. These people dare to break our laws, refuse to learn our language, take advantage of our welfare, murder our citizens, flood our country with drugs, and then have the audacity to use their own children as shields? That’s low, even for criminals. If these parents truly cared about their children, they would see how they would be treated as soon as they were caught, and remain in their homelands to make them better places by fighting the socialism that infects them. Charity begins at home, and this is not their home.

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Paleoconservative Citizens

Americolumbia wrote:The law itself is not inherently moral, but is decided by people in power who do with as they please, the welfare of the people beneath them be darned. Choosing to ignore the plight of innocents (regardless of their legal statuses) simply because your church isn’t personally oppressed is neglecting the “least of these,” who Jesus commanded us to advocate for. You see these migrants as moochers and opportunists, but you fail to realize that they are people like yourself, made in God’s image. They have the same motives as yourself when you seek the welfare of your own family and loved ones, and their nationality does not change that simple fact. National identities were not in God’s original design for mankind, but only developed later on as man slipped further from God. They are not the original design for us.

Also, as a student of history, I can tell you that the primary reason many of these people come from poor nations is because American actions made them that way. We did back the military coup in Honduras, and we have a long history of subverting democratic governments because they don’t give in to American demands.

"You fail to realize they are people like yourself, made in God's image" Well so are murderers, thiefs, kidnappers, drug dealers, etc. But they still commit crimes and must be punished.

"National indentities were not God's design"

Is that why he tried to set Israel apart from other nations?

If they wanna leave their countries so bad, Maybe they should try to get in Legally.

Viridus, Gagium

Im hungry. Gagium the chicken I ordered the your ballistic missile hasn't arrived yet. Did you send it to the wrong location?

Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Mietkael, Paleoconservative Citizens

Gagium wrote:Democratic debate so bad. Pretty much just “upper 1%” and “rich greedy corporations”...Also illegal immigration shouldn’t be illegal. ??

Tune in tomorrow when Yang smacks down Bernie and Biden.

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium

Paleoconservative Citizens wrote:Apply your flawed logic to your own home.

Let's say Some dude broke into your home to steal your money. What would you do? Put him in Jail! He broke into your home! Now, he could've asked you for money correct? Well same applies to the border. You break into our country, don't expect a nice welcome party, you will be met the force and will tossed back outside.

Also the Bible verses you mentioned were irrelevant to our Nation.

God’s Word transcends all time, and is applicable even today. My issue isn’t with having a process to citizenship, that’s not it at all, but what my problem is with is the treatment of children and innocents fleeing violence in their homelands when they lack the ability to change it. I live in a rough neighborhood in the eastern coal country of Kentucky, and I honestly know the reality of home invasion all too well, and I can say that such a scenario can not be applied with equivalency. Of course I would defend my home from a criminal, but these migrants are trying to escape a situation they have no control over.

Deplorable America wrote:If you were actually a student of history then you would know that whenever Socialist doctrine comes to power the “least of these” are always its most common victims. The Soviet Union engineered famines in the Ukraine, persecuted the Church relentlessly, crushed human dignity, and other horrible atrocities that far outweigh the standard of protocol on the southern border. With the evidence of Communism’s obvious dangers, is it any wonder why we saw fit to engage in those countries? Is it not moral to ensure those people have equal access to freedom? No Socialist can answer these questions honestly, because their socialism demands they disregard the suffering of “privileged” people and opponents.

Secondly, if I were a migrant from one of those countries ruined by their own socialist nonsense, I would simply do what countless millions did before: do it legally. That’s all I’m angry about. These people dare to break our laws, refuse to learn our language, take advantage of our welfare, murder our citizens, flood our country with drugs, and then have the audacity to use their own children as shields? That’s low, even for criminals. If these parents truly cared about their children, they would see how they would be treated as soon as they were caught, and remain in their homelands to make them better places by fighting the socialism that infects them. Charity begins at home, and this is not their home.

You make the error to associate all varieties of socialism with Soviet Marxist-Leninism, which is like saying all denominations of Christianity are the same as Roman Catholicism. And national security wasn’t much of a concern with these nations, because many of them had no problem with the U.S. save the exploitation of their people by American corporations.

1. Have you ever tried to learn a new language you weren’t raised with? It’s hard, very hard. It’s worse when you have to break your back to provide for your family.

2. And that’s assuming legal Americans do them at a less rate? Even if an undocumented immigrant does break the law, they get deported anyways.

3. Don’t presume to know the mind of these parents when you don’t. I know it’s hard for us Americans to imagine the possibility of having to leave our whole country due to violence, but that’s the reality these migrants are facing. All I ask for is a bit mercy, is all.

Ndaku, Gagium

Paleoconservative Citizens wrote:"You fail to realize they are people like yourself, made in God's image" Well so are murderers, thiefs, kidnappers, drug dealers, etc. But they still commit crimes and must be punished.

"National indentities were not God's design"

Is that why he tried to set Israel apart from other nations?

If they wanna leave their countries so bad, Maybe they should try to get in Legally.

1. Yes, but those crimes actually result in people being harmed or killed. The harsh penalty for those crimes are understandable, a necessity I truly don’t see for the children of migrants. I truly believe that they ought to do it legally, but the process is so stringent that it’s nearly impossible to pass and often takes years at a time to get through. For some of these people, they don’t have that amount of time. I honestly say just make the process a bit easier, and accompany their entry into American society.

2. The entire purpose for Israel was to make way for the redemption of mankind through the coming of Christ and the restoration of humanity to its original purity through Christ’s death and resurrection. The purpose for Israel’s distinction was to show the nations a new kind of man, one not warped by the Fall but truly dedicated to God. Where Israel failed, however, the Church was to take over. Essentially, the Fall is what created the necessity for a distinct nationstate, not God.

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Americolumbia wrote:God’s Word transcends all time, and is applicable even today. My issue isn’t with having a process to citizenship, that’s not it at all, but what my problem is with is the treatment of children and innocents fleeing violence in their homelands when they lack the ability to change it. I live in a rough neighborhood in the eastern coal country of Kentucky, and I honestly know the reality of home invasion all too well, and I can say that such a scenario can not be applied with equivalency. Of course I would defend my home from a criminal, but these migrants are trying to escape a situation they have no control over.

You make the error to associate all varieties of socialism with Soviet Marxist-Leninism, which is like saying all denominations of Christianity are the same as Roman Catholicism. And national security wasn’t much of a concern with these nations, because many of them had no problem with the U.S. save the exploitation of their people by American corporations.

1. Have you ever tried to learn a new language you weren’t raised with? It’s hard, very hard. It’s worse when you have to break your back to provide for your family.

2. And that’s assuming legal Americans do them at a less rate? Even if an undocumented immigrant does break the law, they get deported anyways.

3. Don’t presume to know the mind of these parents when you don’t. I know it’s hard for us Americans to imagine the possibility of having to leave our whole country due to violence, but that’s the reality these migrants are facing. All I ask for is a bit mercy, is all.

You're right, God's word does transcend time. But God didn't say 'The Lazy shall get paid by the labors of the hardworkers'. Socialism is not a Good political system. It promotes being lazy and freeloading off of others. Look at the countries who fell apart because of it! And besides, Socialism is a Far Left worldview, and is not Scriptural, as the left promote such agenda's as legalizing abortion, or gay marriage, etc.

And what's happening at the border is not our problem, They decided to come here illegally. We aren't gonna build them a mansion because it's not fair, no, illegal immigration is crime like any others. We could just throw them in Jail if that's what you want.

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Paleoconservative Citizens wrote:You're right, God's word does transcend time. But God didn't say 'The Lazy shall get paid by the labors of the hardworkers'. Socialism is not a Good political system. It promotes being lazy and freeloading off of others. Look at the countries who fell apart because of it! And besides, Socialism is a Far Left worldview, and is not Scriptural, as the left promote such agenda's as legalizing abortion, or gay marriage, etc.

And what's happening at the border is not our problem, They decided to come here illegally. We aren't gonna build them a mansion because it's not fair, no, illegal immigration is crime like any others. We could just throw them in Jail if that's what you want.

1. Socialism does not necessarily come with liberal causes like homosexual advocacy and abortion, and such. That is mostly the liberalized “socialism” you see from plenty of Western college students who’ve never worked a day in their lives. Just because a bunch of sheltered kids (and I say this as college student myself) misuse a term referring to the collective ownership of the means of production by those who work them doesn’t mean the whole system is broke. Sin is sin regardless of the economic system.

2. Laziness isn’t much a issue with socialism as much as it is with the mismatching of people with their professions. I’ve seen it in capitalism too, where people just slack off because they truly hate their jobs but remain in them because there is no alternative available. Living in post-coal Appalachia, it’s a harsh reality that I had to see for myself as I got older. Plus, many of the times socialism fails is because outside forces meddle in it and undermine with to make sure it fails.

3. I honestly do believe it is our problem. We created the environment which forced these people to flee and now we have to deal with the outcome. These people aren’t asking for a golden McMansion, they’re running for their lives from oppression and violence, a response which is quite natural for those who’ve been victimized before. I’m not saying it’s not a crime, but I am saying the problem lies with how they’re being treated. I’m not saying they didn’t break the law, but we can’t just have all law and no heart, that’s what Christ denounced the Pharisees for. Having a punishment which is intentionally cruel is just wrong, and sets a terrifying precedent which I worry will lead us down a dark path.

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Americolumbia wrote:1. Socialism does not necessarily come with liberal causes like homosexual advocacy and abortion, and such. That is mostly the liberalized “socialism” you see from plenty of Western college students who’ve never worked a day in their lives. Just because a bunch of sheltered kids (and I say this as college student myself) misuse a term referring to the collective ownership of the means of production by those who work them doesn’t mean the whole system is broke. Sin is sin regardless of the economic system.

2. Laziness isn’t much a issue with socialism as much as it is with the mismatching of people with their professions. I’ve seen it in capitalism too, where people just slack off because they truly hate their jobs but remain in them because there is no alternative available. Living in post-coal Appalachia, it’s a harsh reality that I had to see for myself as I got older. Plus, many of the times socialism fails is because outside forces meddle in it and undermine with to make sure it fails.

3. I honestly do believe it is our problem. We created the environment which forced these people to flee and now we have to deal with the outcome. These people aren’t asking for a golden McMansion, they’re running for their lives from oppression and violence, a response which is quite natural for those who’ve been victimized before. I’m not saying it’s not a crime, but I am saying the problem lies with how they’re being treated. I’m not saying they didn’t break the law, but we can’t just have all law and no heart, that’s what Christ denounced the Pharisees for. Having a punishment which is intentionally cruel is just wrong, and sets a terrifying precedent which I worry will lead us down a dark path.

As for how to treat the people coming in, at least give the kids toothpaste and toothbrushes and give them beds. They didn’t do anything wrong, why punish them for their parent’s mistakes? We could also allow medical attention for people interned, like the mentally ill we’ve been slapping in solitary confinement.

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Americolumbia wrote:As for how to treat the people coming in, at least give the kids toothpaste and toothbrushes and give them beds. They didn’t do anything wrong, why punish them for their parent’s mistakes? We could also allow medical attention for people interned, like the mentally ill we’ve been slapping in solitary confinement.

It's still the parents fault. And if we separate the kids from the parents, in order to give the children a better environment, the liberals will still be mad. Either way they're gonna be together, and if we give special things to the children, no doubt the parents will request it as well. And they'll use the same argument "We didn't do anything wrong, It was just for the sake of our family." We cannot accommodate for every criminal who enters our borders.

Viridus, Gagium

Paleoconservative Citizens wrote:It's still the parents fault. And if we separate the kids from the parents, in order to give the children a better environment, the liberals will still be mad. Either way they're gonna be together, and if we give special things to the children, no doubt the parents will request it as well. And they'll use the same argument "We didn't do anything wrong, It was just for the sake of our family." We cannot accommodate for every criminal who enters our borders.

It was the parents who chose to leave their homelands and come to America’s borders, but overall the reason they’re coming here in the first place is because we made life for them unbearable at home. If the libs do get mad over anything, it’ll be the separation, which would be bearable if the children at least had access to proper healthcare, a bed, and nourishment. Ideally families could be kept together, and they could just live out of refugee camps until we process them all, and I understand that this isn’t an ideal world, but it should be something we strive towards.

At least make it better for the kids, that’s all really.

Gagium

Americolumbia wrote:It was the parents who chose to leave their homelands and come to America’s borders, but overall the reason they’re coming here in the first place is because we made life for them unbearable at home. If the libs do get mad over anything, it’ll be the separation, which would be bearable if the children at least had access to proper healthcare, a bed, and nourishment. Ideally families could be kept together, and they could just live out of refugee camps until we process them all, and I understand that this isn’t an ideal world, but it should be something we strive towards.

At least make it better for the kids, that’s all really.

They’re not our children, there’s the issue. I don’t want my taxpayer dollars going to support people who don’t belong in this country to begin with. They knew the risks and they broke the law, let them deal with the consequences. If you don’t like that, then that’s just tough titty.

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Mietkael wrote:I appreciate the fact #RoadTo1000 contains some calm and entertaining debate instead of just random spam.

I honestly enjoy the debate lol. It’s not good for you when you exist in a ideological echo chamber, because it weakens you. There’s no point in believing something if you don’t know how to defend it and you just go along to do so.

Deplorable America wrote:They’re not our children, there’s the issue. I don’t want my taxpayer dollars going to support people who don’t belong in this country to begin with. They knew the risks and they broke the law, let them deal with the consequences. If you don’t like that, then that’s just tough titty.

That’s honestly just an appalling attitude with regard to children. Ignoring the issues they deal with in the centers is bad enough, but encouraging it as deterrent to parents? That’s using children as a bargaining chip, literally holding these kids hostage for political reasons. There’s no justification for that to be found in any moral philosophy.

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