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Region: Federation of Conservative Nations
Quality content. I quite love this paper.
Viridus, Gagium, Dragonwings, Emerisis, The Sladerstan, Meirshir
THE BEST!!!!!!
Viridus, Gagium, Dragonwings, Meirshir
Thanks guys :D
Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Dragonwings
We must resist the authoritarian attempt to prevent you from losing your vote! The senate is attempting to make presidential elections only on the discord! This is simply an attempt to seize power by a specific group who will remain I will not name, we need to resist this attempt by the senate to seize control of the government!
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium
It's not.
Gagium, Ibenta, Dragonwings, Mietkael
How long does it take to create a Discord? 5 seconds?
If you arent willing to put five seconds into making a Discord you shouldnt be voting
Ulrech, Gagium, Ibenta, Dragonwings, Mietkael
F U C K
Gagium, Dragonwings, Emerisis, The Sladerstan
Baptists: I can't stand those Catholics trying to tell us how to interpret the Bible!
Also Baptists: Make sure your interpretation fits within what we think the Bible says.
Gagium
Its because there is many ways to interpret the Bible.
Gagium, The Sladerstan
Also. This religious poll is cool! We have Pagans and Shintoists in the region. It is so awesome to see that variety!
Gagium, The Sladerstan
How about doing what Lutherans do, and let Scripture speak for itself? I mean, most denominations basically adjust the text to fit the conclusion they already had. Lutherans let the text speak.
In other words, other denominations cherry pick verses to fit what they think it says, Lutherans simply let scripture say what scripture says.
Gagium
And then interpret it into Doctrines and practical applications.
Gagium, The Sladerstan
nooooooooooo!!!!!!
Gagium, The Sladerstan
I rise in adamant opposition to Constitutional Amendment 11-24. This measure is a radical overthrow of the democratic system that has always characterized the Federation of Conservative Nations.
I agree with the sentiment that the Senate Speaker should be elected by Senators alone. The Senate rejected an amendment to CA-11-24 that would have put that change into the bill.
I firmly disagree with removing the entire election system to Discord and away from NationStates. This is an overreaction, quite frankly, to one faction's loss in a legitimately held election. As a result, one side is resulting to extreme measures to ensure that doesn't happen again. This is a decidedly wrong approach.
The FCN is more than just the Discord server. The Discord server is an addition to the region, but it is not the region itself. In fact, the Discord server, while it has enriched our region, it has also caused - at times - detrimental effects to our reputation.
Removing the entire election system to Discord does a disservice to the FCN. Rather than allowing more recent electoral reforms to be tested and tried in regular fashion, this Amendment seeks to impose an oligarchical control on how government officials are chosen.
I speak this as someone who has served in office, been a part of the Discord server since its creation, and participated in joint efforts with many of those promoting this Amendment.
It is my sincere hope that the Senate backs away from this precipitous and ill-advised revolution.
Senator New Waldensia
Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Gagium, West Phoenicia, The Clone Republic, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Sladerstan
We also have a resident Druze (Baconstate).
Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Sladerstan
You gotta be kidding me
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Sladerstan
Stay for a bit longer, comrade..
Dragons Of Power, The Sladerstan
So much for my coup.....
Gagium
I was accidentally discriminatory.
Gagium, The Sladerstan
Unfortunate I think my opposition to this bill is wasted none of the Non discorders care so thats great
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Aglonia
Can we please keep senate ordeals within the senate and not post essays for no reason
Gagium, Greater Bastion, Aglonia
Did someone say c o m r a d e?
Gagium
No, these people deserve to know what the hell is going on in the fcn senate, they impact them.
Don't be so afraid of feedback and transparency.
Liberated American Provinces, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium
Da.
Gagium
Then I'm good, because I didn't do it for no reason!
Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Gagium, West Phoenicia, Holy Rhinish Islands
ДАВАЙ ТОВАРИЩЩЩЩЩЩЩЩ
Gagium
You are not actively telling them anything, though!
Tell them what the bill is and what it does, tell them we are still voting on it.
Gagium, Fluvannia, The Sladerstan
There is no reason to randomly post about a bill we are still voting on when only senators within the Discord can vote and have in depth debate about it with the addition of full context. Also the SS dispatches exist so they'll know eventually anyway.
Gagium, Fluvannia, Greater Bastion
There is, voter education.
You complain about voters being uneducated and you uneducate them further! Posting results of bills to the SeNaTe SpEaKeR dIsPaTcH doesn't work, voters need to see who their candidates are, and their voting history in the FCN Senate! Otherwise they are just plain ignorant and, as CA-11-24 states, APATHY.
CA-11-24 attacks a valid concern, voter apathy, but it does it in the wrong fashion in my opinion. CA-11-24 limits voter's rights, while what we SHOULD be doing is educating the voters about the candidates via voting logs. If it helps tomorrow I shall dedicate most, if not all, of the day to logging down the votes of all senators since SB-11-01.
Liberated American Provinces, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, The Legion Of Mankind, The Sladerstan
Following new legislation in The Sladerstan, cults that offer eternal life after death to those who follow a self-sacrificing saviour are frowned upon.
Idk man sounds kinda like Christianity to me
Gagium, Emerisis, Aglonia
I accidentally legalized slavery in my nation, does anyone know if you can reverse that like the metric system one?
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Sladerstan
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1320578
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Knat
Thank you kindly for those nice words at the bottom there Rhiney
Viridus, Gagium, The Legion Of Mankind, Holy Rhinish Islands
Just to clarify: Voter Apathy is bad, but narrowing down the voting field is the wrong course of action. We need to educate voters and residents, not exclude them.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium
Well besides all the drama how're we all doin' today?
Gagium
I personally think that we shouldve ran an election with the registration bill that was specifically passed to combat this issue before going onto these reforms, but eh.
New Waldensia, Viridus, The Legion Of Mankind, Holy Rhinish Islands
Dont know why youre bothering to post on the RMB
Gagium, Knat
I applaud your newfound enlightenment
Viridus, Emerisis, Knat, The Sladerstan
I can assure everyone here, if the bill passes, as the Secretary of Interior I will do my best to make sure that all people who wish to actively participate in the region are able to.
Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Ibenta, Greater Bastion, Mietkael, Knat
'Cause I'm bored comrade, why the attitude?
Gagium, The Sladerstan
I appreciate you
Gagium
Rhiney please chill out
Gagium, Fluvannia, Greater Bastion, Knat, Logon
God bless Johnny Cash
Gagium, Fluvannia, Emerisis
No, the people deserve to know! You claim to support ridding of voter apathy, yet here you are increasing it!
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Knat
Rhiney the people always have the opportunity to seize the initiative and join the Discord. Nothing is stopping them. Besides, how are you even helping them?
Gagium, Emerisis
The fact no non-discord user has responded to this conversation is telling
Gagium, Fluvannia, Knat, Logon, The Sladerstan
Its literally midnight EST, I commend them for actually having regular sleep schedules
Viridus, Fluvannia, Holy Rhinish Islands, Knat, The Sladerstan
Gagium added to list of people who care for the region.
Viridus, Gagium, Knat
I Got the Issue "The issue with issues"
Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Holy Rhinish Islands, Knat
Amazing how one little click can bring you from being Hitler to Jesus in Rhiney's eyes.
Gagium, Knat, Logon, The Sladerstan
I sleep at 4-5 AM dude
Viridus, Gagium, Knat, Logon
I dont commend you then
Viridus, Fluvannia, Knat, The Sladerstan
I normally fall asleep around nine but on a night of such occasion as this I cannot contain myself
Gagium, The Sladerstan
A list of who does and does not care for the region?
As this partisan attack comes from a disgraced president who resigned amidst one of the worst scandals of this region, I'll gladly take it as a compliment that I supposedly do not care for the Federation.
Gagium, Fluvannia, Mietkael, Emerisis, Knat, Logon, Aglonia
Two very simple reasons for why the entire case of CA-11-24's opposition falls apart:
> Ignores that the Constitution does not guarantee a right to vote. (It only offers the privilege to vote, given active participation on all parts of this region.)
> Calls CA-11-24 an exclusionary effort when literally anyone can get a Discord and thereby qualify to vote.
Gagium, Fluvannia, Mietkael, Knat, Logon
69 minutes ago
Gagium, Knat, Meirshir
For the record, Discord is blocked on my computer by my parents. Just one voice, but I want to let it be known not "literally anyone" can get on Discord.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Sladerstan
bUt YoU dOn'T cOuNt ApPaReNtLy
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Sladerstan, Noeah
I like noooooodles
Viridus, Gagium, Knat
wanna try my noodle?
Viridus, Gagium, Knat
I like it too... surprisingly!
Gagium, Knat
He wasn't hitler, he was in the middle of the aisle. :|
Viridus, Gagium, Knat
Only we're Hitler Fluvannia, but don't worry you can still change that if you change your vote
Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia
I am hitler
Knat
It's breathtaking how some people are taking said one little click amazingly seriously and almost personally tbh
Viridus, Knat, Meirshir
TG me fam I might be able to help with bypassing that
Gagium, Knat, Logon, Meirshir
This is a legitimate reason to not have Discord.
New Waldensia, Gagium, Emerisis, Knat, Logon
copter parents are a pain.
Viridus, Gagium, Emerisis, Knat, Logon, Meirshir
Exactly. Which is why Im willing to work to create a method for those legitimately unable to get Discord to still be able to vote
Gagium, Emerisis, Knat, Aglonia
Updated. Vote ends in around 40 minutes.
Viridus, Gagium, Knat
Apparently I'm running for office?
"Even New Waldensia, the favorite to win the election, is against the amendment at vote for the very reasons listed in this dispatch."
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Knat
Ex-favorite, I should say.
Viridus, Gagium, Knat
The election results say different about him being a favorite
New Waldensia, Viridus, Mietkael, Holy Rhinish Islands, Knat
LOL. I've also heard them referred to as lawnmower parents.
Gagium, Knat, Baconstate, Meirshir
Debate Polls. :shrug: things change on election day, these elections are the proving point.
Viridus, Gagium, Knat
This was true. Very true.
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Knat
Helicopter because they hover over you.
Viridus, Gagium, Knat
Because random people come out of the woodworks who never touch this region any other day?
Gagium, Fluvannia, Knat
They deserve to vote, they are the very people that make this region the best and biggest conservative region on NS.
They aren't random, they ARE the region.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Knat
They really aren't the region as they contribute nothing to it other than a vote every three months (which in itself is hella suss, especially when they don't turn out for other polls). Stop it with the populist bs.
Gagium, Fluvannia, Ibenta, Mietkael, Emerisis, Knat, Logon, Meirshir
They are the region*
*= Unless they happen to be involved in regional politics because thats literally all on Discord.
Gagium, Fluvannia, Knat, Meirshir
We have 90 members of the WA
Only 42 have endorsed our WA delegate. They are not contributing and in fact are breaking the law as I understand it.
Gagium, Fluvannia, Knat, Logon, Meirshir
They log in and answer issues, they contribute to the region's culture, they vote on WA Proposals. The region is more than just the 10% of us on discord, it's that AND the 90% on nationstates.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Knat, Democratic Federation Party
Logging in and answering issues contributes relatively nothing to our region besides a little trophy.
Them not touching our region contributes nothing to our culture.
Them voting on WA proposals means next to nothing if they don't endorse the WA delegate.
Gagium, Fluvannia, Knat
And that's the bad thing, not that they are on NS, but that we are on Discord. We aren't a DISCORD region, we are a NATIONSTATES region. People are forgetting that as each day passes more and more.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Knat, The Sladerstan
>Most are inactive or answer issues every two weeks.
>They contribute nothing to our culture. Were is the debate, the art coming from all these people? Why don't the show up to game nights and the roleplay?
>Only 1/3 of the region constantly votes on proposals
It is the 10% discord. If you can't see that, you're blind.
Gagium, Emerisis, Knat, Logon
They give us the status of the largest, and best, Conservative region on NationStates. You HAVE to understand that.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Knat
They don't. They mean nothing. Even if they wanted to have a say, it takes 5 seconds to join the discord.
Gagium, Fluvannia, Mietkael, Knat, Logon
iT tAkEs FiVe SeCoNdS tO JoIn ThE dIsCoRd
It takes five seconds to vote on an RMB poll.
Your point?
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Knat, The Sladerstan
And yet some people still couldn't do that when I made the poll about Discord.
Gagium, Fluvannia, Mietkael, Knat
You can't compare a poll that had no advertising against a poll that has advertising by multiple people for one or two weeks leading up to it.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Knat
Your right, one the inactive people can prepare to vote on. The other, only the active people see and vote for.
Gagium, Fluvannia, Knat
TIL Waldy is inactive.
New Waldensia, Gagium, Knat
90% of the "culture" is produced on discord. From what I understand, most of the culture-related bills were aimed at art, which is submitted on the discord.
I could go on, but I'm on a phone so I won't. I'll just say: Stop with the populist bs
Gagium, Emerisis, Knat, Logon, Aglonia
The Senate is meant to protect the people, not to take their fundamental logical rights as a resident away.
Oh wait this is the guy that tried to give the region to the LCN, I can take this with a grain of salt.
Aren't you banned anyway?
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Knat
Motion fails, will of the people prevail.
Viridus, Gagium, Knat
The will of a people who didnt even know they had a will...
Gagium, Knat, Meirshir
Imagine thinking that some guy who logs on once every three weeks to answer an issue is just as qualified to vote as an active member of the Discord
Gagium, Knat, Meirshir
That's..what democracy is, yes.."qualified to vote"
Viridus, Holy Rhinish Islands, Knat, The Sladerstan
The senate is meant to make decisions. In the US, as I understand it, the senators vote in the senate, correct? That's the point of senators. Unless you literally want a peculiar form of anarchy (it probably has a name I don't know), how about we keep the senators - and senators only - to the senate?
Secondly, even Quebecshire mentioned in his recent post about me that I lied to him. Funny that he calls us obsessed...
Lastly, I'm not banned - yet. At least I'm not banned by legal terms, anyway.
Gagium, Knat
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