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Region: Federation of Conservative Nations
prnt.sc is trustworthy though
Creeperopolis, Viridus
Post by Blueflarst suppressed by a moderator.
oof,trying not to get commie killed on forums is hard.
Gagium
Post by Blueflarst suppressed by a moderator.
Pfft,I would like to see you trie.
Gagium
Speech 100
I suppose you mean try though? Heh
Creeperopolis, Viridus, Lalop
try*
Creeperopolis, Gagium, Lalop
Thanks, fellow grammar cop!
Creeperopolis, Viridus, Lalop
Grammar Nazi*
Creeperopolis, Gagium, Lalop
What does DDos mean?
Creeperopolis, Gagium
Denial of service attack.
Creeperopolis, Viridus, Gagium
Commend the The Augusto Pinochet Vengeance Force has over 1000 views on the SC!
Creeperopolis, Viridus, Gagium
Speak for yourself...
Creeperopolis, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Lalop
Post self-deleted by Westonkand.
Post self-deleted by Westonkand.
Tssk, might want to change that post before someone reports you or something.. :eyes:
Creeperopolis, Viridus
I can relate, one of other entities here on NS is best described as a authoritarian corporate republic. The federal government has a series of draconian laws and harsh punishments, however, the economy and the social aspects of the citizenry are left alone.
Essentially, It was built off the idea that no economic model shows that political freedom is needed for economic prosperity, only economic freedom is.
Creeperopolis, Viridus, Gagium
My fellow citizens,
As you may know, I will be running for re-election for the office of Senate Speaker. As the current Senate Speaker, I have united the Senate under a common goal: to serve and protect the region to the best of our abilities. Most notably, I have: brought back Executive Orders for the President (which were on full display during the failed coup attempt), inducted the first president of the FCN, Qui-Gon into the Hall of Fame, closed our embassy with the LCRUA (now back under discussion with Marvin being elected the president over there), kept communism banned from the FCN while allowing the President to pardon specific nations as well as updated the language of the Constitution on several more occasions.
Now, over the past few days I have been debating Lalop (not my actual opponent himself, he said he would rather be the topic of discussion than actually being in the discussion himself). I encourage everyone to check out the debate themselves, but to sum it up for you: Lalop's argument was not only weak, but it provided little to no evidence on why you should vote for my opponent, his attempts to refute my points were rarely relevant or strong. On the other side, my points and responses were well-thought and demonstrated my experience in this region and the respect other nations have for me.
So, I would like to ask for you to make an important decision: Vote for the candidate with the experience, vote for the candidate with the respect of not only the Senate, but of the region itself, vote for the candidate who'll actually be active long enough to preform their job, vote for Viridus tomorrow, 10/15/18!
Creeperopolis, Washingtonian Republic, New Waldensia, Gagium, Freezic Vast, Coastal English Districts, Doge Republics
Authoritarianism is regulation of a society coming from an emphasis on order over civil liberties or plurality. Authoritarianism is technically compatible with states that guarantee some degree of civil liberties and political freedom, but certain undemocratic restrictions are established that demand the respect of the people and deny that these liberties are intended to be absolute. On the other hand, an authoritarian dictatorship would keep the people in line to within a certain degree but allow them to do as they would as long as they don't cross certain lines.
Totalitarianism is the total and complete control of a society from the teeming masses to the single individual. No civil, political, or economic liberties are allowed to exist outside of the sphere that they are seen as useful somehow and even then capable of being tightly regulated as needed. Public shows of adulation of the supreme authority figure are common to foster a cult of personality and condition the people to the understanding that they are are never free to be independent individuals or conceptualize ideas incompatible with the party line, even in their own minds.
Authoritarianism = Obey the rules and you can do what you want
Totalitarianism = Doing what you want is breaking the rules
Creeperopolis, Washingtonian Republic, Viridus, Gagium, Jus
So thats the difference between Totalitarian dictatorship and Authoritarian Dictatorship
Gagium, Jus
I guess communists wouldn't know anything other than totalitarianism, so there ya go
Creeperopolis, Jus
K
Commit reelection boi
Viridus, Gagium
May 7th 1910
Berlin, Germany
To aid Eldradorian forces in the war against the Ottoman Empire, 1000 troops have been dispatched to Eldrado
Viridus, Gagium
May 7, 1910
Cartago, Central American Empire (formerly Costa Rica)
A large earthquake struck the Costa Rican area of the Central American Empire, leveling the town of Cartago and killing more than 1,500 people.
May 7, 1910
Istanbul, Ottoman Empire
Fighting continues to rage in Istanbul. Celtic troops have captured the harbor defenses, and cut off the citadel from outside contact. The fortress is now under heavy bombardment, but continues to return fire. 80% of Istanbul is under Celtic control, as well as about half of the suburbs.
Ottoman troops are rushing to the vicinity, in response to desperate calls for assistance. Forts in the Gallipoli region have been reinforced and resupplied in case the Celtic Navy attempts to venture through the Dardanelles
25,000 troops have arrived at İzmit, 60 miles east of Istanbul. More troops are on their way to the enemy landings at Istanbul, Sinop, Mecca, and Kuwait.
[spoiler=Ottoman troop deployments]Europe:
75k in Albania (30k headed to Istanbul)
60k in northwestern Greece (25k headed to Istanbul)
160k in Vilayet of Edirne (110k headed to Istanbul)
70k in Thrace (50k headed to Istanbul)
Asia Minor:
19k in Istanbul
25k at İzmit, headed to Istanbul
15k outside Istanbul suburbs
30k near Sinop (responding to Eldradonian invasion)
30k near Armenia (20k marching to Sinop)
10k in northern Turkey
15k in western Turkey
15k in southern Turkey (10k mobilizing to ship to Istanbul)
10k in central Turkey (mobilizing to march to Sinop)
10k in Crete and Aegean islands
Mesopotamia/Arabia/Libya:
75k in Syria (30k preparing to travel by rail to Medina; 15k to Istanbul)
30k near Baghdad, Mesopotamia (10k preparing to march to Basra)
40k in Basra Vilayet, facing Gran Argrerian invasion
30k in Medina, Arabia, facing Gran Argrerian invasion
18k in Qatar and eastern Arabian coast
12k along southwestern Arabian coast (5k shipping to Medina)
55k in Libya
An additional 100k local militias are activating to defend their communities in threatened regions[/spoiler]
New casualties in the Battle for Istanbul:
Celts - 1600 KIA, 4800 wounded, 200 POW/MIA
Ottomans - 1200 KIA, 4000 wounded, 1800 POW/MIA
Civilians - 800 killed, 1600 wounded
Creeperopolis, Viridus, Gagium
My Fellow citizens of the FCN,
Tomorrow we have a choice for our countries future. As we do every 3 months. The choice that I am talking about is between Bamgo and Viridus for senate speaker. Here is why on October 15 you need to go out and vote Bamgo with evidence of course.
1. Bamgo is a libertarian. This means that unlike Viridus he supports civil liberties.
Proof:
2. Viridus despite what he says is not competent. Proof of this is his weak stance against crimsonfelid and CK when there voting bloc tried to control the senate.
3.Viridus's whole argument is based off 1 thing and 1 thing only. His pervious job as senate speaker. Why you ask? It is simple, he refuses to debate the real issues of the region because he has no answers and instead hides behind and establishment facade.
Proof: So, I would like to ask for you to make an important decision: Vote for the candidate with the experience." Quoted from a vidurius. campaign message.
4. Viridus repeatedly attacks liberty and political freedoms, such as when he banned communism.
Proof:Citizens, my bill banning communism has once again passed" Quoted from A Viridus message,
5. Bamgo has one of the best platforms that I have seen in a while. He supports liberty, is an anti communist s well as an anti facist and sports civil liberties. He has one the CP party primary and has won the endorsement of the TPG. He is a new and better choice for senate speaker.
VOTE Bamgo FOR LIBERTY, FREEDOM AND CHANGE ON OCTOBER 15!
Gagium, Jus
Im taking a rp hiatus for campaigning for today and tomorrow.
Gagium
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=confederate_farmers/detail=factbook/id=1067521
Gagium
1. Just because someone isn't libertarian doesn't mean that they don't support civil liberties
2. Saying that I had a weak stance against them is really funny, seeming how I was one of the strongest voices against them along with Gagium and New Waldensia. You know why CK and Crimsonfield aren't in charge of the FCN right now? Because I stood against them along with the CP. You know why Crimsonfield got impeached? Because I voted with the CP. But then again, you weren't there so you wouldn't know. Here's a tip: since you weren't there when it happened, don't talk about it like you were
3. If you even cared to follow the debate, you'd know that my argument isn't (you've even listed multiple things that I've based my argument off of in this post). You know why it's important to include that I've been Senate Speaker before though? Because it shows that I know what I'm actually doing. It's pretty funny that you're using the fact that I've been the Senate Speaker before as a bad thing, I'm arguably the best Senate Speaker we've had before
4. "Repeatedly" -Goes on to list one example- Alrighty then
5. If you've got a problem with arguments based off of only 1 thing, I've got some news for you, Bamgo's whole campaign so far has been that he's a libertarian
New Waldensia, Gagium, Coastal English Districts, Jus
he gave me permission to I guess I'm his campain manager.
Gagium
It's gonna really hurt him if he won't even debate for himself
New Waldensia, Gagium, Jus
1. True but in your case you don't support them.
2. If you really had a strong stance against them you would have put a spy in their discord once they started to say crazy things. Then we would have known much sooner that they were traitors.
3. You affirm what Im saying -by listing none of your message other then 'Ive been senate speaker before' Your running a single issue campaign, but thanks for clarifying this to the region.
4. Its proof, quoted straight from you. Is it a problem that I exposed you for attacking liberty?
5. Bamgos campaign has been about 3 main issues-He is a libertarian- we need change in the region- and you are anti liberty and don't support freedoms.
Gagium
Or it will help him by staying above the fray, like a government officer should.
Gagium
Nice!
Confederate Farmers, Gagium
1. Uh... you've been saying that I don't support them because I'm in favor of keeping communism out of here. Well, as you've said in your message, Bamgo's anti-communist too
2. They didn't have a server until after they were traitors, good try though. If only you'd had sent a spy into their non-existent server before it happened
3. You've affirmed what I'm saying, by not paying attention to the content of my messages as well as your own. Thanks for dodging the whole purpose of my point though, really makes your argument weak
4. It's proof... of one thing, don't use the word "repeatedly" for one thing. And your problem here is that it's "attacking liberty", well Bamgo supported me on this one
5. And my campaign has included: I have the necessary experience for this job, Bamgo isn't active enough, the least thing we would need after the failed coup and SC liberation proposal would be change, I'm not anti-liberty, I just believe in liberty up to a certain point and that certain rules are made to protect citizens and the number one job of the government is to protect it's citizens
Creeperopolis, Gagium, Freezic Vast, Coastal English Districts, Jus
-Quickly gets the popcorn-
Creeperopolis, Confederate Farmers, New Waldensia, Viridus, Freezic Vast, Coastal English Districts, Lalop
1.Many other things you say including this post also contribute to that.
2. Then what server did Trenado leak to you guys about the coup?
3. I have exactly answered all your questions, but now I will give you one- Is there anything else to your campaign other then having experience to the job?
4. Bamgo supported you on that one but there is many issues he would not support you on.
5.Liberty up to a certain point is a fancy way of saying liberty should be curtailed and the region does need change in order tomato sure that the Coup and the security council lib don;t happen, EG someone not tainted by the joke posts in the summer.
Gagium
i can answer #2: it's called dming
Viridus, Gagium, Lalop
A tip was leaked by Trenado to the FCN's government in the form of screenshots. Directly from the CDP Discord server, it revealed that Crimsonfield and Colorado-kansas were directly involved in the DDoS attack on Gagium.
This is straight from the coup attempt factbook. Notice the words CDP discord server.
Gagium
-steals gagium's popcorn nom nom.-
Gagium
-beats the hell out of you-
Nobody touches my popcorn.
Creeperopolis, Confederate Farmers, Viridus, Coastal English Districts, Lalop, Jus
gag mad
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium
-Takes out knife-
Give me popcorn or die
Gagium
-Pulls out AR15-
No.
Creeperopolis, New Waldensia, Viridus, Freezic Vast, Lalop, Jus
1. Once again, not actually listing them, just saying that they exist...
2. That was after it was happening
3. Sure, take a look at my 5th point please
4. Sure, doesn't really disproves my point since you've yet to list those other issues, though I do agree with you on this, it would be alarming if we agreed on every exact thing even though we all follow a similar ideology in this region
5. To make sure that a coup and another SC liberation won't happen in the future, it'd be helpful to have the nations who've successfully defended the region during the coup and successfully debated against the liberation on the forums
Creeperopolis, Gagium, Freezic Vast, Jus
Trenado leaked the data FROM the CDP discord server, TO the FCN government in DMs.
Why ask questions when you can answer them yourself with a minute of research?
Creeperopolis, Viridus, Gagium, Freezic Vast, Lalop, Jus
Takes hydrogen bomb, throws it. Gaigium Lalop and popcorn are now dead.
Creeperopolis, Viridus, Gagium, Jus
This proves it. Virirus their was a CDP discord server which you could have infiltrated and we wont have the coup.
Gagium
How does one infiltrate a server with no links to it posted? How does one stop a coup by joining a server? If you understand the nature of the coup, then you'd realize that it would've had no affect
Creeperopolis, New Waldensia, Gagium, Jus
1. They do exist Im just 2 lazy to find them right now xd.
2.No, doge republic proved it, they had a discord server before the coup.
3.sure
4.Bamgo is a liberatrien so he would most likely disagree with you on big gov type issues.
5. Like I said, experience. Also, the coup could have been averted if you infiltrated the server and I also debated the SC proposal on the forums, and it wasn't that hard after the mods banned everyone for WA doubling.
Gagium
As much as I believe we wouldve loved to infiltrate one of our regions political parties (Which, as much as I hate to say it, is against basic civil liberties), we didnt, as not all of us believe in large government and spying on each other.
New Waldensia, Jus
Make a new nation, keep it active and in the region for a while and then ask to join the CDP and therefore the discord. Easy. The coup would be stopped because their planning would be leaked far sooner.
Gagium
not immediately of course but after crimsonfelild started saying crazy things and getting impeached, I would have drawn the line. I hate large government and spying but it was pretty obeys at that point that crimsonfelid was a sketchy figure.
Gagium
https://www.nationstates.net/page=lodge_dispatch
Once I finish my presidents list it will contain presidential candidates and presidents that I liked throughout history including currents.
I prefer a confederacy that protects peoples liberties
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=confederate_farmers/detail=factbook/id=1070156
Gagium, Lalop
1. Hmm...
2. It isn't rare for parties to have a server, their server was made literally a few days before the actual event of the coup happening. Coups get planned before they actually happened, thus I said they had it when it was happening
3. k
4. Sure
5. Keyword here: "could have" In reality, nothing would've stopped it, if you understood the nature of the coup then you would realize that. And, you clearly don't pay attention to the content of this debate
Gagium
Also Vidirus here is a counter to your 'lead the region well argument'
Under your term of office,
you let a coup nearly happen.
You let a liberation of our region nearly happen.
Gagium
You realize what we call a coup was just Gagium putting Martial Law in place and banning Crimsonfield and his friends right?
Creeperopolis, Gagium, Coastal English Districts, Jus
Under my term of office, I stopped a coup and I successfully defended our region against the SC liberation
Creeperopolis, Gagium, Coastal English Districts, Jus
If gaigium's internet fully died because of the DDOS, they would have seized the delgacy.
It was a threat.
That you ignored.
Gagium
True but you also let them happen in the first place....
Gagium
Also,can we move this to discord. Its clogging the rmb...
Gagium
lol, You think I ignored it? I literally leaked Crimsonfield's DMs with me to the cabinet so that we were prepared for anything. Good luck to them seizing the Delegacy, not only was that not even what they were going after, they did not have nearly enough endorsements
Creeperopolis, New Waldensia, Gagium, Jus
oof bye dinner
Creeperopolis, Viridus, Gagium
Yep, I'm heading off too
Creeperopolis, Gagium
I want to say that I have been busy this weekend with real life stuff and that I'm trying to keep up with everything that's going on I respect the things that Virdus has done so far minus a few small things I'm starting to feel like I'm not really even in charge of my own campaign I believe that after this election regardless we need to all stand together as a region and move forward
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Coastal English Districts, Jus
WA Delegate has 0 power. No threat. Best you stop making Viridus look bad by making things look threatening.
Creeperopolis, Viridus, Gagium, Jus
This has been a concern of mine as I was watching this little argument with Lalop and Viridus go down. With all due respect to Lalop's commitment, I do not believe that he is representing you in the best way possible. He seems to focused on ideological ties, rather than the position in question. Also saying that Viridus should have stopped the coup attempt before it started is extremely unfair and this is coming from someone who only knows details through factbooks; I wasn't there to witness the ordeal. Coup attempts are often secretive and unless Viridus has the ability to foresee the future, I don't see how any of it was his fault. Furthermore, it's irrelevant because it was stopped and Viridus deserves respect for his part in stamping out the rebellion.
I also want to remark that I know almost nothing about Bamgo's platform, besides the fact he is a libertarian. So, I'm withdrawing my support for his campaign unless he can provide a clear platform. Saying you believe in something is one thing, proving you will act on it is another.
Creeperopolis, Viridus, Gagium, Coastal English Districts
Which wars are going on in the Roleplay, is the Ottoman war still going on?
Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado, Jus
I also would like to be filled in on the current events in the roleplay. I don't know when or how I'm going to jump in.
Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado
Yeah, if the Ottoman war is still going on, i want to confirm my involvement, but if not, i want to assert my position
Creeperopolis, Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado
It is.... I will try a post in a few days or so..... but the wars that are going on is the three-way Ottoman-Eldradonian-Celtic War. The Ottomans and Celts used to be allies until the Celts launched a surprise attack on Istanbul. So far, my allies include Gran Argreriana (southern China), Viridus (Italy), and Westonkand (Germany). My latest RP post details a war conference that is being held in my capital, with all nations that are interested in joining my side being welcome to the conference. If anyone is still interested, please telegram me or Dm me. Also, joining the conference does not force you into joining the war.... so you can just "show up" if you want to discuss other matters such as trade and diplomacy....
In addition to the, The Central American Civil War has begun, with Creeperopolis being the Empire Of Central America, fighting against communist revolters. I believe Texoma ( New Waldensia) is lending aid and maybe some other American Countries.
Reunited Soviets, realistically, the only war that is close to you is the Eldradonian-Ottoman-Celtic war.... fighting so far from home in Central America is also an option but you should be prepared with all the supply roots, deployment times, etc...
Creeperopolis, Viridus, Gagium, Lalop
[in character] Eldrado I, Nicholas II Romanov of Russia wish to send a diplomat to your conference of War against the Ottomans, while i have not sent troops I have already planned on supporting against the Ottomans, for i believe the biggest threat to the Russian Empire is 1) The Bolsheviks, and 2) Aggressive Expansionists, I am looking forward to coming to this conference, just telegram me back the date and ill send a diplomat. -Romanov
Creeperopolis, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado, Jus
Bamgo isn't in the RP, Westonkand is Germany
Gagium, Eldrado, Lalop
May 7, 1910
King Mihael receives another promising telegram. This telegram was from their Russian neighbours. The esteemed Tsar Nicolas II of Russia has personally sent King Mihael a letter regarding an interest in aiding and supporting the Eldradonians in their continuing conflict. Mihael is overjoyed to hear this news and expectantly awaits a Russian Representative (Reunited Soviets, you can chose to send ambassadors, generals, economists, or even your leader to Eldrado. As we are neighbours, you need not worry about the dangers of travel. In addition to this, I built a trans-national highway throughout Romania and Ukraine, so it will not take ages to arrive at my capital) at the House of Voiavods for the beginning of the conference on May 14, 1910 (This date is chosen because of the travel time, accommodation, etc...).
NOTE:
I will write a post on the conflict and of the conference soon.... I am busy these days but I will find some time.
Creeperopolis, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium
Damn.... I'm actually an idiot....... I will correct that
Viridus, Gagium
WA delegate would have power if gaigium count get on the ns and cte....
Gagium
Nope, the only thing that the Delegate has power over is the WA, nothing that they could've done
Gagium
Funny how your complaining how I represented Bamgo when you did nothing to help him. but its no big deal, like you said, Im not him but here is what he stands for-based of what he said
Bamgo correct me if you want.
New voice
Libertarien
Anti communist
Anti facist
Anti authoritarian
Pro demacracy
Hope you support him after seeing what he stands for.
Gagium
But if the DDOs forced Gagium to cte the delegate would become Executive.
Gagium
That's not how it works
New Waldensia, Gagium, Jus
One of the longest attacks was 12 days. You think the script kiddies could DDoS 28 days straight, and somehow prevent Gagium from... you know... just using cellular?
Creeperopolis, Viridus, Gagium, Jus
That's not a campaign platform. That's a list of beliefs. I want to know what he plans to do in office. What someone believes is irrelevant if they can't apply those beliefs. I want to know what makes him a valid candidate.
Edit: Also why would I want to help his campaign if I'm not sure what his plans are? I gave my public support, but I'm withdrawing until Bamgo, not you, addresses my grievances.
Creeperopolis, Viridus, Gagium
If they could ddos all of NS, I wont put it past them.
Viridus, Gagium
I am very interested in learning more about this region and helping it as much as I can by communicating what happens in the senate to the people as well as making sure for every big decision allowing people to voice there opinion in terms of policy yes I'm a libertarian with a Few exceptions such as abortion and extreme Ideologies such as facism and socialism with facism being my biggest issue because facist aren't conservatives and it has been a smear on the right that doesn't deserve to be there
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Coastal English Districts
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=jus/detail=factbook/id=1108344
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Bamgo
Upvoted, absolutely brilliant
Creeperopolis, New Waldensia, Viridus, Bamgo
It's definitely pin worthy :)
New Waldensia, Gagium, Bamgo
Same problem remains: It's hard to sustain an attack for 28 days. Also, the script kiddies would likely get arrested, or, something of that manner.
Creeperopolis, Viridus, Gagium, Freezic Vast, Jus
I should point out that it is somewhat hypocritical of Lalop to be almost slandering Viridus for allegedly being a fascist, which I highly doubt (though maybe we should have a monarch, hmm), when Lalop is currently arguing for working with fascists against communism in the forum for his WA proposal.
It seems a tad hypocritical.
Creeperopolis, Viridus, Gagium, Coastal English Districts
OOCHow long until i can send a diplomat and how long will it take to arrive at the capital of Eldrado
Gagium, Eldrado
Post self-deleted by Juterium.
Post self-deleted by Reunited Soviets.
dingdingdingdingding
It's time for the Senate Speaker election!
Creeperopolis, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Coastal English Districts, Eldrado, Lalop, Bamgo
atleast a few microseconds (or 2 liters for non-americans)
Creeperopolis, Viridus, Gagium
So... I can send him now if i want?
Gagium, Eldrado
yeah probably (trip will take a few seconds atleast)
Gagium, Eldrado
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Bamgo is currently only down by 2.
Come out and vote people!
Gagium
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