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Region: Federation of Conservative Nations
Obama moment
Tesyky, Viridus, Gagium
I recently joined (like right now) so hi btw ik the federation of the COT cooperation
Viridus, Gagium, Anti Communist Region
Hes a friend of ours
Gagium, People Of Cot, Anti Communist Region
Also New Waldensia
Make sure to approve my repeal I want it passed
Viridus, Gagium, People Of Cot, Anti Communist Region
Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Emerisis
Upvote these dispatches!
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1293285
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1293280
Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, The Gamer Collective, People Of Cot
Nicely done. I was actually not going to vote in favor until I read the first one.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Emerisis
Gagium, People Of Cot
Hi, just joined thought it would be cool here.
Tesyky, Viridus, Gagium, Milenko, People Of Cot
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Tesyky, Viridus, Gagium, Anti Communist Region
Well hello the people of cot
Tesyky, Gagium, Milenko, People Of Cot
Hello Anti communist region
Tesyky, Viridus, Gagium, Milenko, Anti Communist Region
Anyone else get the feeling that socialists and communists consistently throw out the baby with the bathwater
Tesyky, Gagium, People Of Cot
No
Tesyky, Gagium, Freethinkers
The Leftist Assembly has banjected someone for being a transphobe because they used the term 'transgender' instead of 'transsexual'.
we live in a society
Ulrech, Liberated American Provinces, Furbish Islands, New Waldensia, Tesyky, Viridus, Mietkael, 00Ferland, The Cot Corporation, The Gamer Collective
we live in a society is my national moto
Tesyky, Gagium
It was more than that
Liberated American Provinces, Tesyky, Gagium
Right, they also said that they didn't care about using the "wrong" term. Oof, clearly a transphobic person in the making
Ulrech, Liberated American Provinces, Tesyky, Viridus
Honestly, I couldn't care less. You're transitioning from one sex to another, so you're transsexuals.
Yeah, transgender is a bit if a wrong term since gender is determined by chromosomes and can't be changed but ehh, used to people like you being called that, so I used it out of force of habit.
This is the message people took offense to
Liberated American Provinces, Tesyky, Gagium
Post by Furbish Islands suppressed by a moderator.
Its a similar principle to what we have in regards to fascism..we dont politely explain we ban them
Furbish Islands, Gagium
Now why would anyone do that?
Furbish Islands, Viridus, Gagium
Mhm?
Viridus
Which is an absolutely cancerous policy
Gagium
Im going to disagree with you there...we clearly arent a region for everyone...it isnt our job to accept all ideologies
Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Gagium, The Cot Corporation
I understand, but we also claim to be a region that supports freedom of speech. If we can't tolerate freedom of speech in our own region, then how can we be pro-free speech?
Gagium
Also there are some ideologies that shouldnt be entertained in any regard...fascism is one of those
Gagium
Yes, fascism bad. Banning free speech and free thought, also bad.
Gagium
Communism is another
Should we have rules?
Ulrech, Viridus
Viridus, Gagium
I think the site rules lay out enough guidelines for what can or cannot be said.
Gagium
Agreed. Really nations that join should check their ideologies before joining, but then again conservatism isn't always the same
Gagium
"banning free thought" Lmao what?
Viridus
So you do not believe we should have rules?
Viridus
Then that's not freedom of speech . . .
Gagium
Regarding what people can say, no not particularly.
Gagium
A) Thats debatable
B) Dont act as if we have the authority to make this region have absolute freedom of speech
Viridus, Gagium
Why?
Yikes
Viridus, Gagium
Please explain. And I'm not; I literally just said the site rules are fine.
Why should we?
Gagium
So basically you don't think we should have rules because "why should we?" ?
But they prevent free speech!
Viridus
We are a privately controlled piece of a privately owned website, so obviously having rules like the CCA and FCA don't violate freedom of speech. That being said, this is a politcally-themed region and our members generally consider themselves pro-free speech. Therefore, out of principle, the region should not have additional rules restricting free speech outside of the site rules. I hope that makes my view clear.
Gagium
You have that right, the FCN is a privately controlled and operated region!
Yes, we certainly are a conservative-oriented region, I'm glad you understood that much
Mhm, we do believe in free speech in the real world..
But this isn't the real world ; As you stated, we're a private, politically-oriented region. As a conservative (Or, in the least, democratic/right-leaning) region, why should we allow those who don't advocate for what we do? We clearly market ourselves as a conservative region - Fascism and communism is inherently opposed to our member's beliefs, and as such communists and fascists don't have a right to be here in the first place, so why should they have freedom of speech? (I believe fascism/communism being banned is what started the freedom of speech debate?)
The NationStates forums are where you go if you want to see free speech and talk to anyone you want, but our region's goal is to create a..uhm..appropriate..er..Scratch that, a somewhat regulated and enjoyable environment for likeminded individuals to be in (I'm using likeminded as an incredibly vague term, as like anyone who's not a fascist or communist lmao)
That's like saying a private free speech organization is against free speech for having membership rules etc.
Generally though, "freedom of speech" applies to the freedom...of speech. Not being allowed in a virtual region isn't taking away anyone's freedom of speech, like at all
Liberated American Provinces, Tesyky, Viridus, Fluvannia, Lna The Resident
Alright everyone, new joiner here breaking up the erudite debate by saying hi
Tesyky, Viridus, Gagium, West Phoenicia, Fluvannia, The Neo Austro Hungarian3 Empire, Mietkael, Freethinkers
Voted in favor of the repeal. It's a worthy proposal.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium
Not only am I lonely here in the RPP, I'm the founder.
Gagium, Fluvannia
i don't even know whats going on
Viridus, Gagium
how come it says that I barely have elections when I never set it to that
Gagium
The Conservative party is always recruiting
Viridus, Gagium
3,399 (56.0%) for, 2,666 (44.0%) against so far...
https://www.nationstates.net/page=ga
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Also, upvote these:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1293285
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1293280
Furbish Islands, Viridus, Gagium, West Phoenicia, Greater Bastion, Mietkael
It's scripted based off your nation's classification.
Viridus, Gagium
No
Gagium, Greater Bastion
Just realized I forgot to post my reply :)
I agree with all the points you made here, and, admittedly, I went a little too far with my point on free speech.
I think it just comes down to my personal preference in that if I controlled an organization that supported free speech, then I would also ensure that my organization practices that as well. At least that's what I imagine I would do. That being said, I completely understand not wanting to do so in cases such as the FCN since it is meant primarily for conservatives even if it contradicts the WFE ;)
Gagium, Greater Bastion
I love a good argument
Gagium
Aksumar Apologies, but I'll be tentatively decreasing your GDP/capita to $20,000 after taking a look at the current GDPs that we have..This certainly doesn't make you poor by any standard though
Missourj your GDP per capita will also be reduced to $30,000 for the moment unless you do plan on putting effort and stuff into the roleplay (In which your apped GDP/capita would be necessary), please TG me if you want this changed
I may decrease everyone's GDP per capita by a certain percentage in the future too, but we'll see..
Fcn Rping
When did so many people join the NPP?
Viridus, Gagium
Post self-deleted by Gagium.
Why would u decrease the GDPs
Gagium
The world's too rich :l
Viridus
Over the past few weeks. We merged with the ADP and PP, and recruited some new members of the region.
Gagium, South Ildan
Don't disrespect the PP like that >:)
Gagium
Makes since for me to decrease my gdp per captial but how bout to 33,343 but it makes since because when Im done writing my nations introduction I plane to have industrys based around agribussiness.
Speaking of which can my nation have chemical wepons like. Ranging from basicaly just chlorine gas or mustard gas its pesticide to things like agent orange and other herbcides.
Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth
Just to clarify, the people of COT is not my puppet
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth
They're someone ik who happened to choose a similar name for unknown reasons
Also as always if my proposal repeal gets passed everyone vote for it
Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth
Hint hint
pokes waldensia
Viridus, Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth
I'm waiting to see if GenSec rules it legal first.
Viridus
Hey guys, I'm new here
Viridus, Gagium, Prodstrazka
Hi
Viridus, Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, Prodstrazka
Whoops *accidently nukes Avalerion*
Viridus, Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, Prodstrazka
Welcome new nations! Take a minute to get acquainted and if you have any questions feel free to ask. Myself, other residents, or a member of the regional government would be happy to assist you.
Once you've had a look around consider joining the World Assembly, our discord, or RP for more!
Viridus, Gagium, Prodstrazka, Vyeborg
Help im gonna get nuked back
Viridus, Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, Prodstrazka
This tips on the house
"If there wasn't any Sh (Nu), there wouldn't be any iT (Ke)"
Viridus, Gagium
Soviet poland is now disbaned so call me poland (you better)
Viridus, Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth
As one of those members of the regional government feel free to telegram me or @ me in the RMB Im typically available
Huvakia, Viridus, Gagium, The Legion Of Mankind
About a month ago
Furbish Islands, Gagium
Square up
Viridus, Gagium
wait but i put democracy so why can't i hold elections
Polish Prussian Commonwealth
You don't have the Autocracy policy, so Idk.
Gagium
Good idea, i have a bad history with them
Viridus, Gagium
Oh and here we go there it is, my favourite
Gagium
A telegram from the secretariat
Frick this
Viridus, Gagium
What did they say?
Viridus, Gagium
The normal, it became illegal
My new one isn't though
Yet
Viridus, Gagium
They said it was illegal because I only gave 1 reason why it should be repealed, but my new repeal gave many more that I forgot to include in my og
Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth
:thinking:
Viridus, Polish Prussian Commonwealth
>give AI's some power
>become socialist overnight
>allow concert tickets to be sold rather than allocated
>become capitalist again
This game sometimes, I swear.
Furbish Islands, Viridus, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, Vyeborg, Salvatore Isles
What does that even mean?
Viridus, Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth
When the AI whos planning your economy tells you capitalism is better than socialism so you change back and all of your industries drop 2%
Viridus, Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth
Post by Furbish Islands suppressed by a moderator.
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Furbish Islands, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth
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Furbish Islands, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, The Cot Corporation
It may be helpful to start a draft thread in the General Assembly sub-forum. Be prepared for opponents to unload on you and GA snobs to be, well, snobbish, but you might also get some constructive input.
Viridus, Gagium, The Cot Corporation
it means that even though i chose democracy it still says i barely hold elections
Gagium
S
Gagium
Like I said . . .
And by "not too often," you could think of it like most countries in the world. There's only major elections every few years or so.
Viridus, Gagium
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Libervalley
Rest in Peace.
Furbish Islands, New Waldensia, Gagium, Mietkael
In the arms of the angels, will fly away.
Furbish Islands, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium
He served the Federation Of Conservative Nations and Right To Life well. The Rouge Christmas State
Furbish Islands, Viridus, Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth
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