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Region: Federation of Conservative Nations
And the issue was also parkers. Those who come in and park and are not active. They are currently protected by our Constitution as being residents, they can vote as they have that right.
The Federal Republic of
Liberated American Provinces made a brilliant point.
Just because someone isn't a WA here. Doesn't mean they aren't somewhere else in another region and jouned here under a puppet.(which a few are)
A puppet doesn't translate to fraud. It's only fraud if both original and puppet are in the same region doing naughty things.
Liberated American Provinces, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, New Inglaterra, Emerisis, Freethinkers
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Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Gagium, New Inglaterra, Emerisis
I think that's a good compromise to ensure that nations active in other regions aren't kept out of the political process here. To confirm, the non-WA nation would declare their WA nation, and an official would send a telegram to that nation, which would need to confirm the identity. A public record of this could be kept in a google doc.
It wouldn't prevent all fraud (someone could ask a friend to confirm for them), but it would definitely require a great deal of effort to pull off a stunt that would manipulate the results. Additionally, it would reduce the likelihood of foreign interference, because the government would be aware of a large number of WA nations in a single alternate region.
Liberated American Provinces, New Waldensia, Gagium, Emerisis
However, this begs the question: how should the government define a fraudulent vote? A clear definition is needed to prevent manipulation from that angle.
Gagium, Emerisis
Post self-deleted by Ibenta.
The government should have increased the voting requirements and conducted electoral reforms long ago. I have argued for these policies for almost two years now. But given the contemporary political landscape of this region, the kinds of reforms that I have long championed are unlikely to find widespread approval. We had a chance. I can only pray that we will have that opportunity again.
Gagium, West Phoenicia, Emerisis, Freethinkers
Please do not attempt to disparage the Prophet (pbuh).
Gagium, Emerisis
Well, if the current system is to be maintained, it needs some reforms anyway.
The election committee should have to sign off each vote with a clear record confirming legality from each committee person on a google doc. For example:
Nation X's vote:
REC nation 1: Legal
REC nation 2: Legal
REC nation 3: Legal
Nation Y's vote:
REC nation 1: legal
REC nation 2: unclear
REC nation 3: likely illegal
etc, and a process to decide what to do with non-confirmed votes needs to be stipulated, if it isn't already.
New Waldensia, Gagium, Emerisis
Their vote and debates are public
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands
Post self-deleted by Freethinkers.
Where
Gagium, The Senate Speaker
Hello, Im new here.
Viridus, Gagium, Emerisis
Welcome!
Viridus, Gagium
https://imgur.com/j6gQ5iH
Every single time members of your party ridiculed him as a do-nothing president...
Every single time members of your party demonized him as a partisan hack...
And every single time members of your party called for his head, going so far as to impeach him...
It crushed him. But he still had enough honor to not blame any of you for his departure. He had enough dignity to still tell a white lie. You will never know the things he felt; you lack both the maturity and empathy to ever comprehend what you did to him.
I promised you that your party's rhetoric would drive Furby out of politics. It seems that I only got half the story right. The NPP's conduct drove him from this region. And yet you have the gall to tell him that he "always has a place here."
If you had even one shred of dignity, you would have remained quiet. You're in no place to issue anything. Not even a farewell.
Furby, if these days ever enter the annals of history, may you be vindicated. Again, I'm sorry.
Furbish Islands, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Mietkael
It's a game and you and Furby are being drama queens about it. Have some dignity lol.
Gagium, New Inglaterra
Viridus, Gagium
When a member of the community votes more than once in an election by using more than 1 of their accounts.
However I will say this again, puppets did not cause this election win. Parkers aka the silent majority did from fierce campaigning.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium
Ah, yes. You don't care about this region, right? I suppose you also voted for Rhiney.
I can tell you now that you don't know how personal things got between Furby and the NPP.
Viridus, Gagium, Emerisis
Post self-deleted by Otira.
A certain candidate and party benefited from the very loose requirements on voting. Said candidate and party now occupy this region's highest elected offices. Implementing legitimate reforms now would threaten to undermine the voter base that got both candidate and party into power.
I agree, reforms are necessary. Whether they will get done adequately is beyond me.
Viridus, Gagium, Emerisis, Freethinkers
As a member of the NPP, or in general as a resident here, which comes first.
I never had any issue with Furby. So how about fairly calling out those who did
You said you disagree with demonising; yet you just did.
Viridus, Gagium, New Inglaterra, Emerisis
I am not sure, since I'm still relatively new myself. Maybe Gagium has an answer
Viridus, Gagium, Emerisis
How do we know which nations are puppets?
That claim was never asserted.
Gagium
The latter
Viridus
Well, I'll try to get something rolling
Gagium
Really? You had no issue with Furby? Clearly, that's not how he feels.
Oh, and yesterday, you called yourself an "independent." I guess the thirst for power is indeed unquenchable.
Gagium, Emerisis
Viridus, Gagium, Emerisis, Freethinkers
Actually it was.
However your claim of puppets leading the charge, whipping up a false narrative of puppets, puppets everywhere.
Many members mostly older members have like 20 puppets in this region, which are used for raiding I guess. But the election was not a mad puppet conspiracy.
As REC I did searches and checked history. The Parkers played a big part. Which being in the region they have a right to vote.
But which frustrated Gagium and I.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Emerisis
Full Nation Name: Allied States of Stanyaland
Land Claim: available space in Western Stratea
Population: 12,000,000 people
Form of Government:Democratic
Head of State: President Thiago Couto
Head of Government: (see above)
Military Size (rarely over 2-3% of population): 5% of population
Economy System (Capitalism, Communism, Mixed, etc.):Capitalism
Economy Type (Developed, Developing, Undeveloped): Developed
GDP per capita: S$60,460
[spoiler=ping]Gagium[/spoiler]
Viridus, Gagium, Emerisis
I didnt call myself an Independent. I supported an Independent.
Let's see my record
1. Voted for Furby at the Oct elections
2. Most bills he introduced I supported.
3. I voiced against holding an Impeachment. And wanted a censure instead.
4. Furby being one of the younger members I stepped up and voiced disgust at older 18+ members or actually just a member making comments of a disgusting sexual nature that included him.
Sorry not buying your b.s and neither are the people who observed this.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis
Let me be clear: the system should be transparent for future elections. I didn't claim that there are puppets everywhere, but instead that the system is open to abuse and gives certain nations more influence over the election.
Restricting the votes to WA-membership in some capacity would make this process easier and more transparent.
Gagium, Emerisis
Why 5% of pop in the army?
Emerisis
I know, I agree with what you said. I just wanted to clear up some misconceptions in the process.
Gagium, Emerisis, Freethinkers
Gagium, Emerisis
https://imgur.com/frdCbsT
https://imgur.com/WKffogx
Yes. He clearly thinks highly of you. Good work.
He's so "happy" for your defense.
Gagium
NS stats typically aren't used in roleplays like this..
Viridus, Stanyaland
Viridus, Gagium
With Furby leaving and the National Populists in control I don't feel the FCN will be safe anymore. God bless everyone! Farewell.
Ulrech, Viridus, Gagium
Me: *Says anything*
Okasian: How can I make this negative
Gagium, Emerisis
Bruh we're in favor of more secure elections stop acting like we are evil
No one:
Okasian: "nPp ArE dIcTaToRs"
Gagium, Emerisis
On the Discord
Gagium, Emerisis
Oh Markev when straight to the LCN after that snowflake speech.
🤣🤣
Viridus, Gagium, New Inglaterra, Emerisis
[Inserts Buzz Lightyear meme]
Mine are primarily for events like N-Day, lol.
Of course it will be safe. Just because one party defeated another doesn't mean the collapse of the region. The heading of the torch to new leaders will go as well as it always has here.
Viridus, Gagium, West Phoenicia, New Inglaterra, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis
The commie is gone!
New Waldensia, Viridus, New Inglaterra, Emerisis
There's your foreign interference. 🤣🤣
Viridus, Gagium, New Inglaterra, Emerisis
Beuh.
Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Gagium, New Inglaterra, Emerisis
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Viridus, Gagium
He immediately ran to the LCN lmao
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis
Everyone. I have not been here for very long, but y'all. Honestly the partisanship that was caused by whatever happened when I got here feels somewhat toxic. We should immediately move past the results of this election and prepare ourselves to do what individually can to make this region better. I voted Conservative. I lost, but that doesn't mean I'm bitter.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, West Phoenicia, New Inglaterra, Emerisis
Can we have a regional poll about limiting voting to WA members?
I don't expect such a bill to pass but I'd like to see the results of a poll.
Gagium, New Inglaterra, Emerisis
Outside of a few people there is very little partisanship.
Not a single NPP member has been appointed to the Cabinet of the NPP President.
New Waldensia, Gagium, Emerisis
I'm referring to the problem people.
Viridus, Gagium, New Inglaterra, Emerisis
More problem person tbh
Gagium, Emerisis
Completely fine..is 1 or 2% of total pop fine?
Viridus
Terms like that don't help..oof
Viridus, Fluvannia
If a group is a problem, they should be designated as such. That being said I will not personally attack anyone, which is why I said people.
Viridus, Gagium, New Inglaterra, Emerisis
Okay..and how do you want to handle this..problem?
Viridus, New Inglaterra, Emerisis
Well we do have freedom of speech so until he inevitably gets banned again...
Gagium, Emerisis, Aglonia
....I don't want to.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, New Inglaterra, Emerisis
Fair..
Btw the roleplay map has been officially updated, you're free to post on the thread whenever about the affairs of your nation IC
Viridus
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Thanks!
Viridus, Gagium
Christmas Day: enjoy the fun with family and friends. Open presents, eat lots of food.
Boxing Day: push your way into the nearest department store, someone gets knocked to the ground and you end up stepping on their hand to reach the Xmas wrapping paper th at is now 50cents cheaper.
Election days will always be chaotic. For the rest of the time it's like Christmas.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, New Inglaterra
What is wrong with you people. Galia is a safe continent, drama free. You guys are animals!!
Viridus, Gagium, New Inglaterra, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis
Stratea's about to be full.. ayy
Viridus, New Inglaterra, Emerisis
It's because you are all warmongers. All the nice people are on Galia
Viridus, Gagium, New Inglaterra, Emerisis
Imagine sharing a continent
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Emerisis
Imagine not being an island.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Emerisis
Viridus, Gagium
Awesome..Your apps been accepted, feel free to post on our roleplay thread whenever..Ill update the map tomorrow.
Viridus
Viridus, Gagium
Safe travels...hopefully youll end up back here someday
To be frank this is a terrible take...partisanship is a two way street...literally this statement right here promotes a belief of partisanship pretty much stating a small group of people are to blame for the issues that are tearing the FCN apart accusations have been thrown around by multiple sides...lines have clearly been crossed and power has been transferred now if you really want to rise above partisanship youll rise above this and take the time to think about what youre saying before you once again accuse others of partisanship which is in and of itself a partisan action
Viridus, Gagium, Joponio, Fluvannia, Emerisis
Hey
Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis
Hello!
Viridus, Gagium, Joponio, Emerisis
Hello! How are you?
Viridus, Gagium, Joponio, Emerisis
Good.
Viridus, Gagium, Emerisis
You can remove me. I thought maybe I would have time during the break, but that didn't happen, and now with the semester starting I for sure won't.
Viridus, Gagium
Ughh we were on the verge of having Stratea full, we were this close!
Yessir..Your nation will now be erased from history >:)
Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, New Inglaterra
Sorry dad
Viridus, Gagium, New Inglaterra
*grabs knife*
This is the last time you will have failed me.
Liberated American Provinces, Viridus
Nooooo! Not again!
What must I do to become your favorite son again?
Viridus, Gagium
1 I can only use nationstates on my phone at the moment , but Im serious Im quitting dont worry Ill come back soon enough
2 and confederate farmers Sex is only legal if they are married Or they are some ones cucubine
3 I will hundred percent will fight for the separatist cause in Star Wars as a bounty hunter
4 as a little kid I was never interested in that much in medieval times ,but age of kings for the ds and perhaps a few books is what got me into that phase.
Also me and my brothers Played Something we call the intergalactic wars Hey Star wars, Star track,doctor who,Elder scrolls games combine with lord of the rings Which we used toy soldiers and knights to play 11-18 I started playing and we made up the rules as we went .
For my children They will be playing with historical toy soldiers , Star Wars action figures ( which they will Put The action figure in the bag individually so they will not loose the weapons )
And some Lego sets probably smaller ones . But I will push them to play sets with cowboys or toy soldiers
Last Im not able to tag nation players on this phone
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, West Phoenicia
Republic can pay more if you fight for them.
Gagium, New Inglaterra, Emerisis
I get $ 100 every month from my grandparents for a college allowance .
I would like to buy things online but my mother has for bid me to buy any toys
If one of you did it for me And shipped it at my house 🏡 I could give Noches the amount I paid ,but gave you a tip how about $10 Perhaps 20 would I have people interested?
If people are interested telegram me please
And if any lies happen ban hammer 🔨
Gagium, West Phoenicia
Lego Kingdoms 6918: Blacksmith Attack
Anyone have the LEGO blacksmith attack set ? Is anyone but me Had any LEGO kingdoms sets or other castle like therms ?
💵 anyone here care to exchange it for cash because on Tuesday or Monday allowance day will be here 💰.
Who all played with Playmobil as a kid ?
Gagium
I had Smurfs, transformers, He-man and Monsters in my pocket
Gagium, Fluvannia, Mietkael
I didn't have it, but I remember seeing it in the magazine they used to send out. Seeks like Lego was real popular when I was a kid, then kinda died down, but has surged again in the last decade.
Viridus, Gagium, Emerisis
Er...
Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, The Legion Of Mankind, Dragonwings, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis
Kinda suss.
Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Gagium, The Legion Of Mankind, Dragonwings, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis
The following nations need to endorse me as Delegate:
[spoiler=Tagging the 17 delinquents]
The Federation Of North America
[/spoiler]
Your cooperation will make this region more secure and influential. Full endorsement would put the FCN in an exclusive club, that of the triple-digit-endorsement Delegates.
FCN Delegate and Head Diplomat
Viridus, Gagium, Dragonwings, Emerisis
[spoiler]The new republic of Colorado
Ceased to exist: 15 minutes ago
CTEing to evade endorsing, oof
[/spoiler]
Huvakia, Liberated American Provinces, Furbish Islands, Viridus, Gagium, Dragonwings, New Inglaterra, Mietkael, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis
Once again working on this. If anyone can lend assistance with historical recall, telegram or message New Waldensia. I'm currently up to the destruction of the CCN² by Topeka, thus entering the black hole of no record due to the loss of the Discord server.
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=conservative_nations/detail=factbook/id=1091380
Furbish Islands, Viridus, Gagium, Dragonwings, New Inglaterra, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis
LOL
Viridus, Gagium, Dragonwings, New Inglaterra, Ferlik, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Freethinkers
Aha, now I can see everything since my status was upgraded
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, New Inglaterra, Emerisis
Youre never taking me alive!
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Ferlik, Emerisis
This from Aclion looks interesting: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1304206
Viridus, Gagium, Emerisis
How does one do a sports Roleplay?
Gagium
Now that the election has passed, what is the truth behind all the animosity between Furbish (and his friends, such as Ibenta) and New Inglaterra (and his friends)?
How much was election banter/propaganda and how much is real?
Viridus, Gagium, New Inglaterra, Mietkael, Knat
Most of it stems from Okasian getting annoyed at new people starting parties on a whim. (He probably took this too far and was rather harsh)
His argument being that Ingys populist party and West Phoenicias Neoconfederate party didn't really differ much from the established parties.
By affiliation this escalated a lot resulting in an increased state of Partisanship due to people voting on bills on a personal level (at this stage I wouldn't say it was party based)
The Populists and Neoconfederates merged to form NoPP.
Naturally the best way for newcomers to become relevant is to rail against the establishment etc etc so it made sense for them to hype up that side of things.
I think we all got a bit carried away.
New Inglaterra and I are actually quite friendly for example and put it on a bit extra for the election.
Which is also evident by the revolutionary new Populists basically re appointing the Furbish executive.
This is a game.
New Waldensia, Gagium, New Inglaterra, Ferlik, Emerisis
Wait no I mean the NoPP lads are evil dudes trying to destroy the Federation at all costs
Liberated American Provinces, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, New Inglaterra, Ferlik, Emerisis
Wait..you weren't supposed to-
Ah, okay, nevermind..carry on
Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, New Inglaterra, Mietkael, Emerisis
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