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Unthicc wrote:Good, just checking because I've noticed that the furbish islands person has made abortion illegal

Eww...

Gagium, Unthicc

Unthicc wrote:My own

Bluefarst?

Gagium, Unthicc

Markev wrote:A woman's body means it is a woman's choice. Conservatism believes in individual rights.

We also are against murder :p

The Rouge Christmas State, Furbish Islands, New Waldensia, Viridus, Mietkael

Day 1 being back and there is so much debating lol

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Eire-Alba

Unthicc wrote:Good, just checking because I've noticed that the furbish islands person has made abortion illegal

Good

Unthicc

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Deneb wrote:What will you call it?

Vienna-Budapest naturally

Viridus, Gagium

Headline of the Day: "95-year-old can't renew his driver's license unless he can prove he was born."

Texas is great, isn't it?

Viridus, Gagium

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Gagium wrote:We also are against murder :p

A zygote isn't a person

Gagium, Unthicc

Markev wrote:A zygote isn't a person

Has an abortion against a singular zygote ever been carried out before?

Viridus, Unthicc

Markev wrote:A woman's body means it is a woman's choice. Conservatism believes in individual rights.

There's a lot that can be said about this, lol

Gagium

Gagium wrote:Has an abortion against a singular zygote ever been carried out before?

I'm sure they haven't all been twins and triplets :p

Gagium

Deneb wrote:I think there is a good point about demographics. Most conservatives in the US are white.

https://media2.fdncms.com/chicago/imager/u/original/24192617/fob-clifton_election_map-magnum.jpg

Trump only won by slim margins in 2016. And a republican hasn't won the popular vote since 2004. I don't think the Republicans are going to win again. Not trying to appear racist, just saiyan.

I don't think anyone wants to talk about this. America has enough race problems that bringing this up will only make people unhappier.

Gagium

Markev wrote:A woman's body means it is a woman's choice. Conservatism believes in individual rights.

It should be a choice in the event of rape, incest, or a threat to the mother's health. I'm sure everyone can agree this is a reasonable compromise.

Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Gagium

Markev wrote:I'm sure they haven't all been twins and triplets :p

If I'm correct, there's no abortion that's ever been carried out against a literal single cell before.

Viridus

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Gagium wrote:If I'm correct, there's no abortion that's ever been carried out against a literal single cell before.

Plan B does it basically lol

Gagium

Furbish Islands wrote:Why did you bring up the zygote? It lasts for only a few days, and abortions have never been done on it because in that phase you don't even know if you're pregnant.

Well calling abortion murder is hyperbole, so I meant to match it :p

Otira, Gagium, Unthicc

Markev wrote:Plan B does it basically lol

I don't define using a contraception as abortion. :/

Otira, Markev, Furbish Islands, Viridus, Mietkael

My nation has limits on abortion because we need more soldiers for future wars.

New Avalon's Confederacy shall not fall!

Otira, Tesyky, Viridus, Gagium

Tesyky I really like your flag

Tesyky, Viridus, Gagium

Sufokia wrote:Tesyky I really like your flag

Thanks, i am thinking of re-making it, looks a bit dated now, plus it hard to make into a country ball

Viridus, Gagium

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Furbish Islands wrote:It's not a hyperbole though.

It is, legally and morally. Is miscarriage involuntary manslaughter? As conservatives we should stand up for the rights of women :D

Gagium, Unthicc

Thoughts on Bolton resigning? Is the region pro-Trump?

Gagium

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Furbish Islands wrote:

Orange man bad

Ironically or unironically?

Gagium

Markev wrote:It is, legally and morally. Is miscarriage involuntary manslaughter? As conservatives we should stand up for the rights of women :D

A miscarriage is not nearly the same as an abortion. A miscarriage is no different from a child dying due to an illness or accident. Not the same as a murder, such as abortion.

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Mietkael

New Inglaterra wrote:A miscarriage is not nearly the same as an abortion. A miscarriage is no different from a child dying due to an illness or accident. Not the same as a murder, such as abortion.

An abortion is no different from having an undesired growth of cells removed from your body. Outside of authoritarian nations it isn't legally considered murder anywhere. Where are you getting that it is?

Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Thixianist People

Abortion should be banned unless the master of the plantation signs off on it.

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Paleoconservative Citizens, Thixianist People

New Avalon wrote:Abortion should be banned unless the master of the plantation signs off on it.

Er...

Viridus, Thixianist People

Gagium wrote:Er...

Should the county have to sign off too? That seems a little overbearing.

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Thixianist People

Markev wrote:An abortion is no different from having an undesired growth of cells removed from your body. Outside of authoritarian nations it isn't legally considered murder anywhere. Where are you getting that it is?

It's a baby's life, which is very different, but alright.

Viridus, Gagium, New Inglaterra, Paleoconservative Citizens, Thixianist People

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Furbish Islands wrote:Roosevelt gang, assemble!

Those who do not comply with Roosevelt gang will be beaten with enormous sticks.

Furbish Islands, Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Markev wrote:An abortion is no different from having an undesired growth of cells removed from your body. Outside of authoritarian nations it isn't legally considered murder anywhere. Where are you getting that it is?

Funny thing, when my wife saw the ultrasound of the clump of cells in her womb she didn't say "look at that clump of cells" and neither did the nurse ...

The Rouge Christmas State, Viridus, Dragons Of Power, New Inglaterra, Paleoconservative Citizens

Also, sorry to have missed the big two year anniversary of the FCN. Long live the FCN!

The Rouge Christmas State, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Mietkael, Thixianist People

Vens Verbum wrote:Day 1 being back and there is so much debating lol

Vens Verbum lives!!

For real, you had us all worried!

The Rouge Christmas State, Viridus, Dragons Of Power, Thixianist People

100 MESSAGES ON THE RMB SINCE I LAST CAME ON

WhAT

The Rouge Christmas State, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Thixianist People, Unthicc

Markev wrote:An abortion is no different from having an undesired growth of cells removed from your body. Outside of authoritarian nations it isn't legally considered murder anywhere. Where are you getting that it is?

Still a criminal offense in NSW, although they are trying to change that.

Gagium, Dragons Of Power, New Inglaterra, Thixianist People

Markev wrote:An abortion is no different from having an undesired growth of cells removed from your body. Outside of authoritarian nations it isn't legally considered murder anywhere. Where are you getting that it is?

Y'all call a speck on another planet "life", but a developing human being is just a "thing".

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Thixianist People

Otira wrote:Thoughts on Bolton resigning? Is the region pro-Trump?

Bolton is a Neocon, warmongering, idiot. Glad he's out.

Gagium, Paleoconservative Citizens, Thixianist People

San Carlos Islands wrote:Did not Palestine exist for the Palestinian people prior to 1948 and why did Israel's "right to exist" somehow outweigh the Palestinian's whom had been living there for about 1000 years prior to 1948?

Up until the mid-1900s, Palestinian pretty much always referred to the Jewish residents; the Arab residents were called... Arabs.

Viridus, Gagium, Thixianist People

“Tycho was said to own one percent of the entire wealth of Denmark at one

point in the 1580s and he often held large social gatherings in his

castle. He kept a dwarf named Jepp (whom Tycho believed to be

clairvoyant) as a court jester who sat under the table during dinner.

Pierre Gassendi wrote that Tycho also had a tame elk (or moose) and that

his mentor, Landgrave Wilhelm of Hesse-Kassel, asked whether there was

an animal faster than a deer. Tycho replied, writing that there was

none, but he could send his tame elk. When Wilhelm replied he would

accept one in exchange for a horse, Tycho replied with the sad news that

the elk had just died on a visit to entertain a nobleman at Landskrona.

Apparently during dinner the elk had drunk a lot of beer, fallen down

the stairs, and died.”

I propose we make Tycho Honorary Vice President of the FCN. I’ll also be campaigning on major social platforms for his creation as Chad Emeritus.

Gagium, Paleoconservative Citizens, Thixianist People

Markev wrote:It is, legally and morally. Is miscarriage involuntary manslaughter? As conservatives we should stand up for the rights of women :D

Oh boy I have started quite the conversation, but yeah, I don't think it's up to other people to decide what women do with their bodies, so abortion should be legal, also, you are allowed to have your own opinions, but I don't think it's fair to limit the rights of other people because of your opinions.

Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Paleoconservative Citizens, Thixianist People

New Inglaterra wrote:A miscarriage is not nearly the same as an abortion. A miscarriage is no different from a child dying due to an illness or accident. Not the same as a murder, such as abortion.

Imagine thinking abortion was murder, couldn't be me

Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Thixianist People

Really wondering what direction I'm gonna take the SoA

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Eire-Alba, Paleoconservative Citizens, Thixianist People

Paleoconservative Citizens wrote:100 MESSAGES ON THE RMB SINCE I LAST CAME ON

WhAT

Yeah that would be my fault

Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Paleoconservative Citizens, Thixianist People

Otira wrote:Thoughts on Bolton resigning? Is the region pro-Trump?

I'm Pro-Trump

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Thixianist People

Paleoconservative Citizens wrote:I'm Pro-Trump

Welp, that's unfortunate

Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Paleoconservative Citizens

Unthicc wrote:Imagine thinking abortion was murder, couldn't be me

The majority of people here don't have to "imagine" it. https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=146656

Who's the puppet master?

New Waldensia, Viridus, Dragons Of Power

Vens Verbum wrote:Really wondering what direction I'm gonna take the SoA

Take them North, then East, then take a hard left and go South.

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Unthicc wrote:Welp, that's unfortunate

How?

I mean I'd support Pat Buchanan but you know

He's not running for president smh

Gagium, Dragons Of Power

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Furbish Islands wrote:TFW immediately after Vens Verbum joins New Jakobly asks him to somehow unban him from the FCN.

He told me he was only joking about wanting to rejoin two weeks ago...

What?

Edit: Never mind I understand now

Gagium, Dragons Of Power

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Unthicc wrote:Oh boy I have started quite the conversation, but yeah, I don't think it's up to other people to decide what women do with their bodies, so abortion should be legal, also, you are allowed to have your own opinions, but I don't think it's fair to limit the rights of other people because of your opinions.

Yeah, like we're trying to make sure that babies aren't killed. Also, I'm going to leave out the reasoning for Rape, cause it's a argument commonly used, and less than 1% of abortions are rapes, and actually most abortions are from women from their mid 20s to early 30s from not wanting children when they have sex, while only about 7% of abortions cause of health problems, which I understand completely why. So, rape and health problems, only cases I understand why to use abortion.

We aren't aloud to prevent the deaths of babies? Is that terrible of us to just say "Hey, don't do that, there's better ways to solve that situation the killing a living being."

Yeah, "limit", like limiting people's ability to kill babies is "limiting" there rights as a human being. So, it's ok to kill a unborn baby, but not ok to say it's not ok to kill babies, unborn babies that didn't get a chance to life, while the women gets to live on with there mistakes? Uh huh, it's like me saying "Hey, you can't shoot an old man, cause it's terrible", and you get away from it scott free.

19% of abortion rates are cause of people that "don't want the child", while 25% aren't ready to have a child, well guess what, there's their fault, not the baby. If you don't want to get pregnant, then don't have sex. Plan and simple, instead of killing off a human being who didn't get a chance to live, maybe just you now, don't have sex. It's pretty simple actually.

Why do we want abortion banned except for extreme cases? Cause people are stupid and just don't want to have children, when they have sex. It's there mistake for that, and they don't get to "walk away" from a mistake like that, cause they did it willingly.

Furbish Islands, New Waldensia, Gagium

Unthicc wrote:Welp, that's unfortunate

Nah, that's great man.

MAGA!!

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Paleoconservative Citizens

Unthicc wrote:Imagine thinking abortion was murder, couldn't be me

[joke]Imagine thinking killing someone, especially someone that can't defend themselves, was murder! smh! Couldn't be me[/joke]

Furbish Islands, New Waldensia, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Paleoconservative Citizens

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Furbish Islands wrote:You're a man you don't know how it feels like to get pregnant you shouldn't tell women what to do with their bodies smh.

im joking pls dont do an angry rant

Lol

Gagium

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Furbish Islands wrote:You're a man you don't know how it feels like to get pregnant you shouldn't tell women what to do with their [children's] bodies smh.

im joking pls dont do an angry rant

Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Furbish Islands wrote:Unthicc What is your main nation, and why are you so interested in looking at the policies of me of all people, then joining just to start a debate about this?

Yes, it's fun to crush Liberal views.

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium

Dragons Of Power wrote:Yeah, like we're trying to make sure that babies aren't killed. Also, I'm going to leave out the reasoning for Rape, cause it's a argument commonly used, and less than 1% of abortions are rapes, and actually most abortions are from women from their mid 20s to early 30s from not wanting children when they have sex, while only about 7% of abortions cause of health problems, which I understand completely why. So, rape and health problems, only cases I understand why to use abortion.

We aren't aloud to prevent the deaths of babies? Is that terrible of us to just say "Hey, don't do that, there's better ways to solve that situation the killing a living being."

Yeah, "limit", like limiting people's ability to kill babies is "limiting" there rights as a human being. So, it's ok to kill a unborn baby, but not ok to say it's not ok to kill babies, unborn babies that didn't get a chance to life, while the women gets to live on with there mistakes? Uh huh, it's like me saying "Hey, you can't shoot an old man, cause it's terrible", and you get away from it scott free.

19% of abortion rates are cause of people that "don't want the child", while 25% aren't ready to have a child, well guess what, there's their fault, not the baby. If you don't want to get pregnant, then don't have sex. Plan and simple, instead of killing off a human being who didn't get a chance to live, maybe just you now, don't have sex. It's pretty simple actually.

Why do we want abortion banned except for extreme cases? Cause people are stupid and just don't want to have children, when they have sex. It's there mistake for that, and they don't get to "walk away" from a mistake like that, cause they did it willingly.

You are killing a fetus, an idea of baby, not an actual baby, a fetus isn't even really conscious so...unborn " babies" are different from born ones, just saying

Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Unthicc wrote:You are killing a fetus, an idea of baby, not an actual baby, a fetus isn't even really conscious so...unborn " babies" are different from born ones, just saying

And you’re just an idea of a non-dumbass

[spoiler]Sorry, I had to do it to em, no hard feelings [/spoiler]

Furbish Islands, New Waldensia, Viridus, Dragons Of Power

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Furbish Islands wrote:Consciousness is your criteria for what makes murder ok?

"Your honor, I only killed him when he was asleep."

"Case dismissed."

You also realize that if the woman is not financially stable or no one adopts the baby etc, it could be worse for the child. Wouldn't you want the child to have a good life. Besides we already suffer from overpopulation, and the government kills convicts which is actually murder, not the murder of a "baby"

Gagium

Gagium wrote:And you’re just an idea of a non-dumbass

[spoiler]Sorry, I had to do it to em, no hard feelings [/spoiler]

Well my parents wanted me and we're financially stable enought to support me

Gagium, Dragons Of Power

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Furbish Islands wrote:1) If you can't support the baby, as Dragons Of Power said, just don't have sex.

2) Overpopulation is not a problem, and if anything, it's underpopulation that will be a problem later.

3) I never said I support the death penalty(I don't, if you were wondering).

Underpopulation in the first world at least.

The civilized nations of the world are declining...

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Furbish Islands wrote:1) If you can't support the baby, as Dragons Of Power said, just don't have sex.

2) Overpopulation is not a problem, and if anything, it's underpopulation that will be a problem later.

3) I never said I support the death penalty(I don't, if you were wondering).

Overpopulation is a problem, but ok. And simply not having sex is much harder for some and also very unlikely, also condoms dont always work effectively, so that is an issue. I dont think not having sex is fair solution because people like sex and it feels good.

Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Viridus wrote:[joke]Imagine thinking killing someone, especially someone that can't defend themselves, was murder! smh! Couldn't be me[/joke]

im confused, are you pro choice or pro life?

Viridus, Gagium

Gagium

are you prolife or prochoice? you always like my comments but your posts seem tosay otherwise, mind clarifying? thanks!

Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Unthicc wrote:Gagium

are you prolife or prochoice? you always like my comments but your posts seem tosay otherwise, mind clarifying? thanks!

I like every post. It’s my civic duty

Viridus

Gagium wrote:I like every post. It’s my civic duty

I see.

Viridus, Gagium

Unthicc wrote:im confused, are you pro choice or pro life?

Good, but I am pro-life

Thegoldcoast, New Waldensia, Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Furbish Islands wrote:Unthicc What is your main nation, and why are you so interested in looking at the policies of me of all people, then joining just to start a debate about this?

my main nation is Cactuscus I joined because seeing as this nation is a joke nation, i though it would be interesting to see what a conservative nation would think of a tyrranical nation. I looked into your nation and saw that abortion was illegal and decided to start a conversation about it because I care about stuff like that and I think that women should have the choice.

Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Viridus wrote:Good, but I am pro-life

ok, that too is unfortunate but im glad you are having a good time

Viridus, Gagium

Unthicc wrote:my main nation is Cactuscus I joined because seeing as this nation is a joke nation, i though it would be interesting to see what a conservative nation would think of a tyrranical nation. I looked into your nation and saw that abortion was illegal and decided to start a conversation about it because I care about stuff like that and I think that women should have the choice.

>"tyrannical nation"

>"giving women a choice"

This ain't adding up!

Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Unthicc

Unthicc wrote:ok, that too is unfortunate but im glad you are having a good time

Well, there's already enough people here to debate you, the least I can do is get some humor out of it

Gagium

Viridus wrote:>"tyrannical nation"

>"giving women a choice"

This ain't adding up!

lol yeah I let my personal views into this region, my nation itself doesnt give anyone rights.

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Viridus wrote:>"tyrannical nation"

>"giving women a choice"

This ain't adding up!

What if he’s a matriarchy?

Viridus, Dragons Of Power, Unthicc

Unthicc wrote:lol yeah I let my personal views into this region, my nation itself doesnt give anyone rights.

Reminds me of my nation, lol. I made it to be my own little dictatorship so it doesn't represent some of my real life views

Gagium, Unthicc

Viridus wrote:Well, there's already enough people here to debate you, the least I can do is get some humor out of it

yeah, i mean im not suprised that here are so many prolifers in here, and i am fully aware that i will not change anyones mind. But some people in here are just o agressive, I just frankly cant handle hearing the murder argument over and over again

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Gagium wrote:What if he’s a matriarchy?

im actually a she...

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Unthicc wrote:im actually a she...

Ah, explains it, your nation would be feminine if it was a matriarchy anyways

Viridus

Gagium wrote:Ah, explains it, your nation would be feminine if it was a matriarchy anyways

yep

Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Deneb wrote:Bluefarst?

im not actually anyones puppet

Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Otira wrote:It should be a choice in the event of rape, incest, or a threat to the mother's health. I'm sure everyone can agree this is a reasonable compromise.

while I appreciate you trying to make a compromise,i dont agree

Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Unthicc wrote:im not actually anyones puppet

Unthicc wrote:my main nation is Cactuscus I joined because seeing as this nation is a joke nation, i though it would be interesting to see what a conservative nation would think of a tyrranical nation. I looked into your nation and saw that abortion was illegal and decided to start a conversation about it because I care about stuff like that and I think that women should have the choice.

Viridus, Dragons Of Power, Unthicc

Furbish Islands wrote:Didn't miss much, mostly a bunch of racism and strawmans.

Gagium apologized, he wasn't trying to appear racist.

Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Unthicc wrote:Overpopulation is a problem, but ok. And simply not having sex is much harder for some and also very unlikely, also condoms dont always work effectively, so that is an issue. I dont think not having sex is fair solution because people like sex and it feels good.

Yeah, so killing babies solves overpopulation? By that logic, Hitler was a "good" man cause he reduced the world's population by killing 6 million jews. Mass shootings would just be "reducing the population", 9/11 would be celebrated instead of a day when you honor the dead. That's the dumbest logic ever tbh.

Also, I forgot to mention, that there's things called condoms and anti pregnancy pills. You can have sex, but do it safety if you don't want a child, and if you can't afford them, then don't have sex until you're ready to have a child, or be very risking during sex.

Also, if you can't have a baby, then don't have sex to begin with! Don't get yourself in a situation when you can't support the baby, then kill it off cause you don't have the money.

Unthicc wrote:You are killing a fetus, an idea of baby, not an actual baby, a fetus isn't even really conscious so...unborn " babies" are different from born ones, just saying

Oh yeah, it's forming into a baby? Which is technically a baby still? So, if I kicked a pregnant women in the stomach, would that be consider hurting the baby or the women to you? Cause, what you're implying, that babies don't matter until they're born, which is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

You know that when a male's sperm travels through the lady (I'm not going to get too descriptive), only one makes it the eggs, and fertilizes the egg? When a male releases about 500,000 sperms at a time? Which means it had survive, and fertilize the egg, then what are you going to do? Kill it. Killing something that survived when 499,999 others couldn't. Yeah, that makes total sense.

Unthicc wrote:yeah, i mean im not suprised that here are so many prolifers in here, and i am fully aware that i will not change anyones mind. But some people in here are just o agressive, I just frankly cant handle hearing the murder argument over and over again

I can't believe I'm hearing all the feminist logic and reasoning behind all of the arguments. Give me some scientific reasoning, so it would make this fun. *Yawn*

New Waldensia, Gagium

Unthicc wrote:while I appreciate you trying to make a compromise,i dont agree

That's ok. Agree to disagree and all that.

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Unthicc

What did I stumble across

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Unthicc

Gagium wrote:

Hold up...

Viridus, Gagium

Otira wrote:Gagium apologized, he wasn't trying to appear racist.

I think he still means you (and possibly SCI) but whatever

Gagium, Dragons Of Power

The Legion Of Mankind wrote:What did I stumble across

Chaosh...

But it's a ladder.

Gagium, The Legion Of Mankind, Dragons Of Power

Otira wrote:Chaosh...

But it's a ladder.

Ah, Ignites saber and stabs everyone

Gagium, Deltasource, Dragons Of Power

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