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Aight I'm gonna attempt a tank model.

Maybe.

Gagium

Fluvannia wrote:tfw cannabis is legal in your country but you vote against the WA resolution at hand because not every country wants to legalize and you respect that

Based.

Gagium, Fluvannia

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_sladerstan/detail=factbook/id=1355077

Please tell me what you think

Gagium

Me:

The Sladerstan wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_sladerstan/detail=factbook/id=1355077

Please tell me what you think

Gagium:

Gagium wrote:I don't think so, no

Viridus, Gagium

The Sladerstan wrote:Me: Gagium:

Same

Gagium, The Sladerstan

The Sladerstan wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_sladerstan/detail=factbook/id=1355077

Please tell me what you think

Ficou bacana, mas não sei se é muito viável para terras acidentadas, prefiro ainda os tanques K29 norte-azaratas.

Gagium, The Sladerstan

North Azarath wrote:Ficou bacana, mas não sei se é muito viável para terras acidentadas, prefiro ainda os tanques K29 norte-azaratas.

No hablo taco.

Gagium, The Sladerstan

Liberated American Provinces wrote:Based.

Dat self-determination doe

Liberated American Provinces, Gagium, The Sladerstan

Gladesville wrote:No hablo taco.

Mi ne laboras, kaj vi ne estas mi. Vi laboras? Ne?

Don't translate that.

Also, Azarath is speaking Portuguese

Viridus, Gagium

New Waldensia wrote:Want on the FCN Religion Map? Let me know what denomination/religion you are: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=new_waldensia/detail=factbook/id=1354174

Wait, Mietkael is an Anglican/Lutheran?

I could've sworn he was a catholic

Gagium

The Sladerstan wrote:Wait, Mietkael is an Anglican/Lutheran?

I could've sworn he was a catholic

Somebody said on Discord that he was Anglican. I had him Catholic to begin with, he answered Catholic on a poll, but... perhaps Mietkael could enlighten us?

Gagium, The Cot Corporation, The Sladerstan

New Waldensia wrote:Somebody said on Discord that he was Anglican. I had him Catholic to begin with, he answered Catholic on a poll, but... perhaps Mietkael could enlighten us?

I am indeed Catholic.

One of the small farming communities I lived in only had an Anglican church so perhaps I had told someone about that time.

New Waldensia, Gagium, Fluvannia, The Cot Corporation, The Sladerstan

The Sladerstan wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_sladerstan/detail=factbook/id=1355077

Please tell me what you think

Hot

Gagium, The Sladerstan

The Cot Corporation wrote:Hot

It's hotter than my gir-

Wait, a second...

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, The Cot Corporation

United Massachusetts wrote:Right to Life Army | Operation Rehumanize

Tonight, the Right to Life Army, in conjunction with foreign allies, participated in our most expansive operation in years, perhaps since I arrived in the region. Our goal was simple -- to force a particularly odious GA proposal entitled "Access to Abortion" out of the quorum. The resolution, proposed by one of the game's most prolific authors, would establish "abortionplexes" across the WA and force member nations to pay the travel costs of those who sought abortions at these facilities. The original version, proposed on April Fool's Day, required that abortionplexes include ""coffee shops, wine stores, nightclubs, restaurants, a casino with myriad games of chance, boutique shops, theatres, adoption centres for house cats and canines, and spas of the highest quality." Needless to say, it was a shameless attempt to trivialise abortion and all the very real pain and trauma that it causes. Abortion is not the stuff of April Fool's jokes. It is a real stain on our society -- what civilization thinks it can pay for women's liberation with the blood of its children?

We sought to remove the resolution from quorum, and we have done so for now. Our forces removed 9 approvals from that resolution, bringing it down from 81 approvals all the way to 72, short of the quorum. Barring further approvals, it will die at minor. Should it get two more approvals, we will reassess and continue our fight. We also noticed that another force was making a similar attempt to remove a repeal of so-called "Reproductive Freedoms" from the quorum. We redirected forces and also halted that effort. Our operation was, in every respect, a success. There is the chance that we may have to continue this fight in future updates. We will do so happily.

EDIT: It's back in quorum for now. This is going to be a close struggle. Let's get going, friends, and keep on fighting.

Participating Nations:

United Massachusetts (trigger)

Aawia (point)

New Waldensia

Logon(FCN)

The Rouge Christmas State

Fluvannia (FCN)

Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar (from Sonindia)

We are currently looking for more nations interested in participating in pro-life gameplay work. If you wish to join Operation Rehumanize, please telegram or DM United Massachusetts.

Want to help? TG United Massachusetts.

United Massachusetts, Liberated American Provinces, Washingtonian Republic, Viridus, Gagium, Logon

Please endorse me. I want to be able to propose resolutions etc. Thanks

Viridus, Gagium, Logon

The Sladerstan wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_sladerstan/detail=factbook/id=1355077

Please tell me what you think

That flat front plate looks like it would be a major weakness. Also, no machine gun on the turret is just begging to be overrun by infantry (of course that would be probably harder to model).

Washingtonian Republic, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, The Sladerstan

New Waldensia wrote:Want to help? TG United Massachusetts.

Have done.

Washingtonian Republic, New Waldensia, Gagium

The Sladerstan wrote:Mi ne laboras, kaj vi ne estas mi. Vi laboras? Ne?

Don't translate that.

Also, Azarath is speaking Portuguese

You're speaking wi-fi.

Gagium, The Sladerstan

The Sladerstan wrote:It's a missile. That's meEpic report

May I use it in my Factbook, but I'll slightly modify it?

Yes.

Gagium, The Sladerstan

The Sladerstan wrote:Is it good or bad?

It is workable, so it's good according to Atridesian standards of war.

Gagium, The Sladerstan

Liberated American Provinces wrote:That flat front plate looks like it would be a major weakness. Also, no machine gun on the turret is just begging to be overrun by infantry (of course that would be probably harder to model).

Atridesian war simulator.

Test Operator - Planetary conditions, Sagahi Mark I model defending a planet orbit from a standardImperial Atridesian fleet conquest attack on standard planet setting. Attack pattern, bombarding.

Admiral - Scan on full power.

Test Operator: 1000 under way, but it's appearing and disappearing on every side.

Admiral: It may be 100000 or just 10, liberate the interceptors and use mine layers to cover the attack.

Test Operator: As you know...

Admiral:... with the mine layers to defend the plasma missile the ship cannon can't work.

Test Operator: It was really made for defense, simulating counter-attack hypothesis, signature raised to 50% after missile, hit and run, swarm attacks on every size.

Admiral: fire explosion waves, protect the carriers while dropping the interceptor.

Test Operator: The time delay of the attacking operation is going so high, this give them time to study the scenario and study alternatives, attack rate of success 45-65%.

Admiral: Test Liberated American Province Machine Gun Hypothesis, simulate a breach on the planet with standard infantry with AA-gun portable and some AA mechas with energy cannons and other with missile cannons. Simulate a Sagahi Fighter defense with swarms of the Mark I test and others with the Sagahi Machine Gun successfully installed on the plate.

Test Operator: On simulation 1 the the casualties were higher to the AA mechas, psychological stress of 5 on standard soldier, any non-Atridesian without stoic military doctrine would be on 9 affecting the morale, the missile defense had 25% effectiveness, the energy cannon 70%. On simulation 2 the Sagahi Machine Gun give far more casualties to infantry due to a more spreading fire alternative than plasma missiles, but their casualties were higher too, the signature of Sagahi Fighter rise 21 to 72% and maneuverability was 15 to 32% lower.

Admiral: Liberated American Province Machine Gun Hypothesis is optional, not good for a Mark II, but maybe good for a small scale variant of the Sagahi Mark I. Let's drink coffee, end the simulation please.

Test Operator: Ending simulation, they are a threat for us sir?

Admiral: Everybody is, there is no invincible army, and it includes ours, we study our enemies and allies, even on low tech medieval scenes there is variants where they may win, we are among the most powerful, but being powerful is not the equivalent of being invincible, we must not be arrogant, not all the time, learn this asap and you will have less problems on war.

Gagium, The Sladerstan

New Waldensia wrote:Want to help? TG United Massachusetts.

About the ridiculous WA resolutions that we never obey anyway.

"ENSURES reparations shall be paid towards individuals incarcerated for marijuana and marijuana related paraphernalia in the form of a percentage of the prosecuting nations GDP per capita per year of incarceration"

And now pot smokers want to profit for the use of drugs.

They want to criminalize anti-drugs position this must be denounced.

There is high probability of this to pass despite this just because it is about the "sacred" marijuana.

I've smoked Marijuana before, not everyday but in group, I know about radical marijuana supporters, they worship marijuana as a religion and really believe it is the cure of all diseases and peace of mind.

Marijuana is REALLY relaxing but I stopped after perceiving that it's far better to relax with my own imagination, reading a book, playing games and other thing.

Today Marijuana users on my city are on a nervous breakdown due to the quarantine, there is no marijuana to be sold, a couple of friends are enraged fighting one against other everyday.

"Marijuana is not addictive."

Certainly not chemically addictive but psychological addiction is so obvious to allow it.

It is not because it is not lethal that it is not a problem.

Gagium, The Cot Corporation

Liberated American Provinces wrote:That flat front plate looks like it would be a major weakness. Also, no machine gun on the turret is just begging to be overrun by infantry (of course that would be probably harder to model).

Bro I literally have 5 shapes to work with: a cube, a cylinder, a plane (square), a sphere, and a pyramid

I could add a machine gun but it'd take quite the effort

Also I don't know where a machine gun would fit

Viridus, Gagium

The Sladerstan wrote:Bro I literally have 5 shapes to work with: a cube, a cylinder, a plane (square), a sphere, and a pyramid

I could add a machine gun but it'd take quite the effort

Also I don't know where a machine gun would fit

I know. That's why I added that last bit :)

Viridus, Gagium, The Sladerstan

Liberated American Provinces wrote:I know. That's why I added that last bit :)

I still don't know where I'd add a machine gun.

Gagium

The Sladerstan wrote:I still don't know where I'd add a machine gun.

Usually, machine guns on tanks are mounted on the commander's hatch. The hatch looks like it's right on top of the turret, so I'd put it there.

Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Gagium, The Cot Corporation, The Sladerstan

The Sladerstan wrote:I still don't know where I'd add a machine gun.

Okrolia wrote:Usually, machine guns on tanks are mounted on the commander's hatch. The hatch looks like it's right on top of the turret, so I'd put it there.

This.

Also, your tank is pretty similar to a T-54, so if you need a visual I would look at one of them.

Viridus, Gagium, The Cot Corporation, The Sladerstan

Liberated American Provinces wrote:This.

Also, your tank is pretty similar to a T-54, so if you need a visual I would look at one of them.

Ah, I see where I should add one.

I'll be done in quite a bit. And now I have to retexture the tank, because the damn modeling software always resets the textures.

Edit: So i made the machine gun model, and when I go to import it to the tank, IT DOESN'T LOAD.

Liberated American Provinces, Gagium

The Sladerstan wrote:Ah, I see where I should add one.

I'll be done in quite a bit. And now I have to retexture the tank, because the damn modeling software always resets the textures.

Edit: So i made the machine gun model, and when I go to import it to the tank, IT DOESN'T LOAD.

If needed I have blueprints to hovercraft technology with full EMP immunity, hover-tanks may go around on ANY terrain and most oceans, penetrating water waves without any problem.

Gagium, The Sladerstan

Atrides wrote:If needed I have blueprints to hovercraft technology with full EMP immunity, hover-tanks may go around on ANY terrain and most oceans, penetrating water waves without any problem.

Why use hover tanks when we can use the trusty

W A R

T R A I N

*Furbish Islands spawns*

Actually a war train sounds like a stupid idea.

Atrides, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, The Cot Corporation

Paleoconservative Citizens wrote:He granted them the repentance, which means they couldn't repent unless he chose to grant it to them, and once again, Ephesian 1:3-5 clearly shows that he predestined us to be sons of Jesus, which means we are saved. As Jesus said:

No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.

John 6:44 ESV

And he also said

All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.

Matthew 11:27 ESV

So let's see, no one can know Jesus except the Father, and no one can know the Father except Jesus, and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.

This shows unless you are chosen, you'll never know God. Also,

no one understands; no one seeks for God.

Romans 3:11 ESV

So it's clear no one seeks God or can know God unless he is chosen

Saving this so I can debate myself and prove myself wrong later 👀

New Waldensia, Gagium, The Cot Corporation

Hey, I'm trying to be more open to both sides of the spectrum, does anyone know anyone good left-wing podcasts or youtube channels?

Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Gagium, The Legion Of Mankind, The Cot Corporation, The Sladerstan

Paleoconservative Citizens wrote:He granted them the repentance, which means they couldn't repent unless he chose to grant it to them, and once again, Ephesian 1:3-5 clearly shows that he predestined us to be sons of Jesus, which means we are saved. As Jesus said:

No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.

John 6:44 ESV

And he also said

All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.

Matthew 11:27 ESV

So let's see, no one can know Jesus except the Father, and no one can know the Father except Jesus, and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.

This shows unless you are chosen, you'll never know God. Also,

no one understands; no one seeks for God.

Romans 3:11 ESV

So it's clear no one seeks God or can know God unless he is chosen

Alright this is basically accurate because the will of man is enslaved to sin, so only if God draws them, will they repent and believe.

BUT, God doesn't choose people to go to hell just because He wants to. I heard that RC Sproul JR. said something like "God created man (Adam and Eve) with the irresistible urge to sin, because He is a God of wrath and needs sinful creatures to punish." and he's right, from a Calvinist view.

Because Calvinists teach that God creates basically most of humanity with the intent of sending them to eternal torment. That isn't the God I find in scripture, I find a God who wants all to be saved (1 Timothy 2:3-4), died for all (Romans 5:18), and who doesn't delight in the destruction of men (Ezekiel 18:23)

Ecalpa, Atrides, The Rouge Christmas State, Gagium, Dragons Of Power

The Greysonian Empire wrote:Hey, I'm trying to be more open to both sides of the spectrum, does anyone know anyone good left-wing podcasts or youtube channels?

ContraPoints is a good one. I watch her from time to time.

Liberated American Provinces, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, The Cot Corporation, The Sladerstan

The Sladerstan wrote:Why use hover tanks when we can use the trusty

W A R

T R A I N

*Furbish Islands spawns*

Actually a war train sounds like a stupid idea.

Actually no. It depends on what time period. WW1 they were used to good use.

Gagium, Fluvannia, Dragons Of Power, The Sladerstan

The Sladerstan wrote:Alright this is basically accurate because the will of man is enslaved to sin, so only if God draws them, will they repent and believe.

Agreed.

The Sladerstan wrote:BUT, God doesn't choose people to go to hell just because He wants to. I heard that RC Sproul JR. said something like "God created man (Adam and Eve) with the irresistible urge to sin, because He is a God of wrath and needs sinful creatures to punish." and he's right, from a Calvinist view.

Because Calvinists teach that God creates basically most of humanity with the intent of sending them to eternal torment.

I'd be curious to see that quote. "Double predestination" in that manner isn't a mainstream Calvinist viewpoint, but belongs to an extreme form of supralapsarianism, aka "hyper-Calvinism".

The Sladerstan wrote:That isn't the God I find in scripture, I find a God who wants all to be saved (1 Timothy 2:3-4), died for all (Romans 5:18), and who doesn't delight in the destruction of men (Ezekiel 18:23)

Agreed.

Gagium, Fluvannia, The Sladerstan

New Waldensia wrote:Agreed.

I'd be curious to see that quote. "Double predestination" in that manner isn't a mainstream Calvinist viewpoint, but belongs to an extreme form of supralapsarianism, aka "hyper-Calvinism".

Agreed.

The question necessarily arises why would God do such a thing? What might be God's motive? This is where RC Sproul Jr goes even further off the rails by attempting to read God's mind. He asserts that God did all this so He could demonstrate one of His most important character attributes -- wrath. "He is pleased with his wrath... God is as delighted with his wrath as he is with all of his attributes. Suppose he says, 'What I’ll do is create something worthy of my wrath, something on which I can exhibit the glory of my wrath'." (pp. 52, 53)

Here is the website

http://rc-sproul-jr.blogspot.com/2019/06/rc-sproul-jr-accuses-god-of-creating-sin.html?m=1

New Waldensia, Gagium

Hey! It's good to be here. Let's talk about endorsing each other.

Viridus, Gagium

Rebirth Island wrote:Hey! It's good to be here. Let's talk about endorsing each other.

Hullo!

Viridus, Gagium

The Sladerstan wrote:The other day I reached my 69th forum post

Nice!

Gagium, The Cot Corporation, The Sladerstan

The Legion Of Mankind wrote:

Actually no. It depends on what time period. WW1 they were used to good use.

We live on a multi tech-level region, the war train was an excellent idea because of it's bulky defense, but it is useless if the enemy have great mobility, a Tech Level 3 army may stop a war train basically putting an immense load of rocks on the tracks, anyone with explosive devices may explode the tracks that are not made of resistant and more expensive material.

And it fully exposes your supply line or defense perimeter basically drawing the map and coordinates to the enemy, even a stone age people will know where the train will possibly coming even if you make more than one route.

Gagium, The Cot Corporation

The Greysonian Empire wrote:Hey, I'm trying to be more open to both sides of the spectrum, does anyone know anyone good left-wing podcasts or youtube channels?

The Legion Of Mankind wrote:ContraPoints is a good one. I watch her from time to time.

Yeah ContraPoints is pretty good but also very weird. Another person I occasionally listen to is Kyle Kulinski.

Confederate Farmers, Gagium, The Legion Of Mankind, Dragons Of Power

Liberated American Provinces wrote:Yeah ContraPoints is pretty good but also very weird. Another person I occasionally listen to is Kyle Kulinski.

After years of conservative thinking rising on Brazil, the Bolsonaro fanatical followers is destroying conservative thinking, the leftists are making a perfect straw of conservatives, the Bolsonaro (Brazilian president) worshipers even have a slang against them, "Bolsominion", and more recently, cattle, some of them openly call themselves "cattle" and "only believe what our dear President says", recently our president said:

"I AM THE CONSTITUTION."

And he is firing every minister that diverge from him, now we may have another impeachment.

My country, Brazil, is extremely poor on conservative thinking because always rely on European thinking and have France as main academic influence (and it's a shameful disaster at least).

Any conservative knows one thing:

Humans have capacity to fail, so it's not prudent and it's unwise to put so much faith on leaders, anarchy is not the point, but every politicians is in the end a power seeker, a naive radical or both of them.

On Brazil the conservative thinking instead of going to people such as Edmund Burke, Russell Kirk and Roger Scruton, prefer to go to a populist leader, Bolsonaro, just because he is anti-socialist, and a questionable intellectual with worship status, Olavo de Carvalho. Olavo deserves a credit for bringing conservatism to Brazil, we finally have conservative works translated to Portuguese language (and it means a lot to a population that only learns English to talk with tourists selling things to them or bartering the price of sexual intercourse, so most Brazilian English is about trade and sex), but he's been awful, defending that we must have ideological militants to fight and patrol ideological divergence on the streets, he was a power seeker all the time.

And years ago, like a true conservative he said he hates ideology.

How far we are from being a true conservative? I don't want to make a true Scotsman fallacy here, but our conservatism, not only Brazilian, but of the entire West, need a back to the basics, because our conservative is so anti-conservative that it is not making sense anymore.

Ecalpa, Gagium, Aeternitatia, North Azarath, The Sladerstan

Good afternoon everyone. Have your states been opening up?

Viridus, Gagium, The Sladerstan

Autonomous Slavic Republics wrote:Good afternoon everyone. Have your states been opening up?

Nah Cuomo’s smart

Gagium, The Legion Of Mankind, The Cot Corporation, The Sladerstan

Viridus wrote:Nah Cuomo’s smart

Yes.

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, The Cot Corporation, The Sladerstan

Autonomous Slavic Republics wrote:Good afternoon everyone. Have your states been opening up?

I don't even know and I don't care

I'm still staying home.

Viridus, Gagium, The Cot Corporation

Liberated American Provinces wrote:Yeah ContraPoints is pretty good but also very weird. Another person I occasionally listen to is Kyle Kulinski.

He’s not a smart person and he is biased and rude.https://medium.com/@SaintHeartwing/secular-talks-kyle-kulinski-is-stupid-ec918f55b813

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Kyle_Kulinski

I wish though I found out he became political though

Gagium

Atrides wrote:

-- snip --

I love all that you said as it's very interesting to me. I'm currently living in Brazil for an educational exchange, and I've been learning portuguese along the way. I don't know if all of what you say is true here, but most of it makes sense to me. From the little pieces of what I've heard or seen, I've noticed several things.

Most Brazilians are uninterested in politics, or have such a bad taste for it that they tend to stay away from it. Others care deeply, and I've found this on both sides of the isle. Yes, there are people here who simply follow what the president says and does, and others that hate him. But I have found a few who are sensible enough to say that not everything he does is all good or all bad. Rather it's mixed.

I think that there is always a growing period when things are changed large scale like this. Like normal growing periods, there comes a lot of pain and discomfort. I believe that Brazil has potential to make progress and move towards being a stronger, freer world power. But I think it's going to take some time. And because the populous has been generally disinterested in politics for so long, I'm not sure if they will have the drive to tap into that potential.

For me, not being Brazilian, I can only wait and see.

Atrides, Confederate Farmers, Gagium, The Sladerstan

Aeternitatia wrote:I love all that you said as it's very interesting to me. I'm currently living in Brazil for an educational exchange, and I've been learning portuguese along the way. I don't know if all of what you say is true here, but most of it makes sense to me. From the little pieces of what I've heard or seen, I've noticed several things.

Most Brazilians are uninterested in politics, or have such a bad taste for it that they tend to stay away from it. Others care deeply, and I've found this on both sides of the isle. Yes, there are people here who simply follow what the president says and does, and others that hate him. But I have found a few who are sensible enough to say that not everything he does is all good or all bad. Rather it's mixed.

I think that there is always a growing period when things are changed large scale like this. Like normal growing periods, there comes a lot of pain and discomfort. I believe that Brazil has potential to make progress and move towards being a stronger, freer world power. But I think it's going to take some time. And because the populous has been generally disinterested in politics for so long, I'm not sure if they will have the drive to tap into that potential.

For me, not being Brazilian, I can only wait and see.

Oh like our Donald trump?

Gagium, The Cot Corporation, The Sladerstan, Wahe Guru

https://youtu.be/ibLm9PZke0w

Leaked footage of Ibenta playing Minecraft

Gagium, Dragons Of Power, The Cot Corporation

I was playing SCP-087-B and I died on the 69th floor

Not epic.

Gagium

The Sladerstan wrote:https://youtu.be/ibLm9PZke0w

Leaked footage of Ibenta playing Minecraft

LMAO

Gagium, Dragons Of Power, The Sladerstan

The Cot Corporation wrote:LMAO

"Bernie_Sanders felt the bern"

Gagium, Dragons Of Power, The Cot Corporation

The Sladerstan wrote:"Bernie_Sanders felt the bern"

Seen it before, but the Okasian thing... LOL

Gagium, Dragons Of Power, The Sladerstan

Confederate Farmers wrote:He’s not a smart person and he is biased and rude.https://medium.com/@SaintHeartwing/secular-talks-kyle-kulinski-is-stupid-ec918f55b813

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Kyle_Kulinski

I wish though I found out he became political though

Yes because political commentators are never biased . . .

Also you cited Medium and RationalWiki lmao

Confederate Farmers, Gagium

Liberated American Provinces wrote:Yes because political commentators are never biased . . .

Also you cited Medium and RationalWiki lmao

What kind of politics are yours? What’s wrong with citing them ?

Gagium

Aeternitatia wrote:I love all that you said as it's very interesting to me. I'm currently living in Brazil for an educational exchange, and I've been learning portuguese along the way. I don't know if all of what you say is true here, but most of it makes sense to me. From the little pieces of what I've heard or seen, I've noticed several things.

Most Brazilians are uninterested in politics, or have such a bad taste for it that they tend to stay away from it. Others care deeply, and I've found this on both sides of the isle. Yes, there are people here who simply follow what the president says and does, and others that hate him. But I have found a few who are sensible enough to say that not everything he does is all good or all bad. Rather it's mixed.

I think that there is always a growing period when things are changed large scale like this. Like normal growing periods, there comes a lot of pain and discomfort. I believe that Brazil has potential to make progress and move towards being a stronger, freer world power. But I think it's going to take some time. And because the populous has been generally disinterested in politics for so long, I'm not sure if they will have the drive to tap into that potential.

For me, not being Brazilian, I can only wait and see.

Are you studying in Brazil? Poor soul.

Well about the politics, we have been caught with the extreme polarization that begun with the left here, if you are not Brazilian they will be less extreme, but in fact you have almost the same scenario as USA.

The socialists of PT and the Workers Party, that received impeachment and had it's political idol under arrest, if you disagree that the party was never corrupted, that Lula is a saint, ot that Dilma suffered a coup and not an impeachment, well you are a Bolsominion, fascist, reactionary, dictatorship supporter and cattle.

The reactionaries that support president Bolsonaro, that don't hear it's own ministers, make all efforts to break the quarantine because the economy is more important than ordinary workers life and fire ministers and try to control the intelligence agencies to protect their children from almost certain corruption. If you disagree that Bolsonaro is always and that the military dictatorship was good for them you are a communist, a socialist, a scumbag, deserves to be beaten (and it happened recent), a lazy that don't want to work, a welfare state parasite and oh, a cattle.

In fact both sides are cattle.

Our people never get into politics for some reasons, just to tell some.

1. Historically we had an Empire and a pseudo-republic were only a few families voted, the Empire in fact was more democratic than the republic, and don't matter what side you are, the republicans made a coup, they used the army and took the power, with most of the new Brazilian republica being commanded by military freemasons and oligarchs.

2. The Brazilian dictatorship made all efforts to prevent any politization because they knew it would cause a socialist uprising, the universities like on US were a leftist stronghold like today, so they focused, like the actual government, on STEM areas and Law, with few resources going to humanities, the repression don't killed so much, but it happened, and that is what matters.

3. Dealing with politics is somewhat DANGEROUS since... well... always, you must deal with colonels who literally get their big farms killing the little farms that were there, a lot of "important families" that rule parts of the country and cities stay in the power and may kill with full impunity on some areas, and less than 2% of homicides in Brazil have a solution by the police, death is cheap.

4. The culture of Brazil is awful to politics: Brazilian culture is about sex, money, even more sex, power, ostentation oh and just to don't forget, sex. The pursuit of knowledge is considered a thing for lazy people, and considered useless because what everybody must do is to be an entrepreneur or a worker an get money to feed and forget the misery of life on the Friday and Saturday with a lot of alcohol, drugs and sex of course. Brazilians even invented the slang "sextou" (fridayed), and it have a feeling of "Finally the day I'm out of work and miserable life, a brief release from prison and misery.", this cause Brazilians get full hedonism, and people will not talk about politics on the job our waste their "fridayed" talking about something. Brazilians love Instagram more than any people with the exception of Americans, because there they may show their vanity, and we are among the top Tinder users too.

5. The political options are all bad and evil: There is not a single party or ideological side that is not full of corruption and power seekers, you have the socialists, and if you are studying on a Brazilian university you know they rule even STEM (don't talk about having a nation on a Conservative region) and they worship Lula, on the other side you have reactionaries that despise any knowledge that have not immediate economic use and worship Bolsonaro like a god. And both sides think that only their side is not corrupt.

6. We have a "political Messiah" problem. Politically, it can be tracked to the proto-fascist dictator (he put Brazil on Allied side on WW2 but in fact flirted with the Axis, USA basically PAID him to take Allied side by giving steel mills that allowed Brazilian industrialization) Getúlio Vargas, most Brazilians, even the educated ones, put their faith on messiahs like Lula and Bolsonaro, taking them as political gods, to the point of taking any critic to their political idol as a PERSONAL THING. Brazil is low like Facebook more than a century more before Facebook was invented, really.

7. Most Brazilians don't have time for it: They need to work and think hedonistic ways to cope with their own dispair, most Brazilians live in an existential despair that they try to solve by getting into situation that would give even more dispair. Read a book? You are tired or you need to eat. The free time? FRIDAYNED, time to do sex, drugs and party all night along.

If you see Atrides, it forbid almost everything, including sex, no cigarettes, no alcohol, no gambling, modesty on clothes. It is not moralism, I made my nation on opposed ways of Brazil, and despite having problems of corruption it is excellent. I know it's only a simulation, but I liked the ANTI-BRAZILIAN culture my country have, we forbid even sports because people here care so much about soccer and this is stupid, just another hedonistic dull thing, people kill for their soccer team here because a victory of the team give a brief delay about the misery and it's a good excuse for more alcohol, drugs and sex after the game.

Brazilians have low values, bad political options and extremely dangerous coping based life, there is no way of having good politics.

The only hope here is getting out of here, being a CEO or having a job on the State that you can't be fired at all. And being silent because everything here ends in flamewar, everything is personal.

Gagium, Aeternitatia, North Azarath

Confederate Farmers wrote:What kind of politics are yours? What’s wrong with citing them ?

RationalWiki unironically describes Trump as "'Chosen One and the King of Israel', a bizarrely unsuccessful American businessman, brash television personality, (un)intentional comedian, urophilist, neo-Nazi sympathizer, honorary Russian Cossack, wrestling personality, WWE Hall of Famer, demagogue, and fascist personality-cult leader who governs as a thug and an aspiring strongman, Nobel Peace Prize nominee, and current false-equivalency."

They totally aren't the type of people to lie about others.

As for my politics, you could broadly classify me as a libertarian.

Ecalpa, Atrides, Confederate Farmers, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Aeternitatia, The Cot Corporation, The Sladerstan

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Atrides wrote:After years of conservative thinking rising on Brazil, the Bolsonaro fanatical followers is destroying conservative thinking, the leftists are making a perfect straw of conservatives, the Bolsonaro (Brazilian president) worshipers even have a slang against them, "Bolsominion", and more recently, cattle, some of them openly call themselves "cattle" and "only believe what our dear President says", recently our president said:

"I AM THE CONSTITUTION."

And he is firing every minister that diverge from him, now we may have another impeachment.

My country, Brazil, is extremely poor on conservative thinking because always rely on European thinking and have France as main academic influence (and it's a shameful disaster at least).

Any conservative knows one thing:

Humans have capacity to fail, so it's not prudent and it's unwise to put so much faith on leaders, anarchy is not the point, but every politicians is in the end a power seeker, a naive radical or both of them.

On Brazil the conservative thinking instead of going to people such as Edmund Burke, Russell Kirk and Roger Scruton, prefer to go to a populist leader, Bolsonaro, just because he is anti-socialist, and a questionable intellectual with worship status, Olavo de Carvalho. Olavo deserves a credit for bringing conservatism to Brazil, we finally have conservative works translated to Portuguese language (and it means a lot to a population that only learns English to talk with tourists selling things to them or bartering the price of sexual intercourse, so most Brazilian English is about trade and sex), but he's been awful, defending that we must have ideological militants to fight and patrol ideological divergence on the streets, he was a power seeker all the time.

And years ago, like a true conservative he said he hates ideology.

How far we are from being a true conservative? I don't want to make a true Scotsman fallacy here, but our conservatism, not only Brazilian, but of the entire West, need a back to the basics, because our conservative is so anti-conservative that it is not making sense anymore.

Nosso governo realmente está errando muito, mas graças ao apoio que recebe não se dedica a melhorar, pois acha que está totalmente certo. A sociedade vem perdendo o senso de moralidade à muito tempo, não há no país uma grande exemplo de moralidade ou ética, o que deveria ser um quesito básico para um governante. Se tudo continuar dessa forma, a direita brasileira pode voltar ao ostracismo por suas próprias falhas em escolher seus representantes e teóricos.

Atrides, Gagium

Aeternitatia wrote:I love all that you said as it's very interesting to me. I'm currently living in Brazil for an educational exchange, and I've been learning portuguese along the way. I don't know if all of what you say is true here, but most of it makes sense to me. From the little pieces of what I've heard or seen, I've noticed several things.

Most Brazilians are uninterested in politics, or have such a bad taste for it that they tend to stay away from it. Others care deeply, and I've found this on both sides of the isle. Yes, there are people here who simply follow what the president says and does, and others that hate him. But I have found a few who are sensible enough to say that not everything he does is all good or all bad. Rather it's mixed.

I think that there is always a growing period when things are changed large scale like this. Like normal growing periods, there comes a lot of pain and discomfort. I believe that Brazil has potential to make progress and move towards being a stronger, freer world power. But I think it's going to take some time. And because the populous has been generally disinterested in politics for so long, I'm not sure if they will have the drive to tap into that potential.

For me, not being Brazilian, I can only wait and see.

what states did you come to?

Gagium, Aeternitatia

Liberated American Provinces wrote:RationalWiki unironically describes Trump as "'Chosen One and the King of Israel', a bizarrely unsuccessful American businessman, brash television personality, (un)intentional comedian, urophilist, neo-Nazi sympathizer, honorary Russian Cossack, wrestling personality, WWE Hall of Famer, demagogue, and fascist personality-cult leader who governs as a thug and an aspiring strongman, Nobel Peace Prize nominee, and current false-equivalency."

They totally aren't the type of people to lie about others.

As for my politics, you could broadly classify me as a libertarian.

RationalWiki begun as an atheist Dawkins wannabe wiki, probably to react against Conservapedia, both are a problem, both have strong bias and unreliable information.

The name of the atheist wiki show the neo-atheist Dawkins fan-boys arrogance on full charge, the "RATIONAL" wiki, they are the rational ones, only atheists use reason, if you believe in God you are or a dumb or not as rational than them and must be treated with condescending behavior pattern, it is disgusting.

After some time the RationalWiki begun to be liked by SJWs, The Left, and they begun to put they biased articles there as Republicans do with Conservapedia.

RationalWiki = Atheistpedia or TheLeftPedia

Conservapedia = Republicanpedia

And the RationaWiki is not rational and Conservapedia is not conservative (only the articles about conservatism philosophers are good, but the rest is not knowledge, it's only biased articles).

If for example you want to know a solid, made by experts digital encyclopedia, flee from wikis except when dealing with series or games, for example, if you want to know The Catholic official position on everything, there is a Catholic Encyclopedia that existed before the internet and they put it online. They are honest because they don't hide that this is a CATHOLIC encyclopedia with openly Catholic bias, they don't want to manipulate you, if you want to know the position of The Catholic Church on anything, just go to The New Advent.

https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/

For example: https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12495a.htm

The article above is about Protestantism, and despite the extreme critics later, it is far from being aggressive and stimulate intellectual and theological debate, scholarly Catholics seems to understand more of Protestantism than much protestants understand of Catholics (most of them even don't want to go beyond Martin Luther original critics to The Catholic Church).

This one his a hard, polemical and harsh critic of Protestantism on the article, please protestant friends don't get your feelings hurt so easily.

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Advent of a new order: Cæsaropapism

A similar picture of religious and moral degradation may easily be drawn from contemporary Protestant writers for all countries after the first introduction of Protestantism. It could not be otherwise. The immense fermentation caused by the introduction of subversive principles into the life of a people naturally brings to the surface and shows in its utmost ugliness all that is brutal in human nature. But only for a time. The ferment exhausts itself, the fermentation subsides, and order reappears, possibly under new forms. The new form of social and religious order, which is the residue of the great Protestant upheaval in Europe, is territorial or State Religion — an order based on the religious supremacy of the temporal ruler, in contradistinction to the old order in which the temporal ruler took an oath of obedience to the Church. For the right understanding of Protestantism it is necessary to describe the genesis of this far-reaching change.

Luther's first reformatory attempts were radically democratic. He sought to benefit the people at large by curtailing the powers of both Church and State. The German princes, to him, were "usually the biggest fools or the worst scoundrels on earth". In 1523 he wrote: "The people will not, cannot, shall not endure your tyranny and oppression any longer. The world is not now what it was formerly, when you could chase and drive the people like game". This manifesto, addressed to the poorer masses, was taken up by Franz von Sickingen, a Knight of the Empire, who entered the field in execution of its threats. His object was two-fold: to strengthen the political power of the knights — the inferior nobility — against the princes, and to open the road to the new Gospel by overthrowing the bishops. His enterprise had, however, the opposite result. The knights were beaten; they lost what influence they had possessed, and the princes were proportionately strengthened. The rising of the peasants likewise turned to the advantage of the princes: the fearful slaughter of Frankenhausen (1525) left the princes without an enemy and the new Gospel without its natural defenders. The victorious princes used their augmented power entirely for their own advantage in opposition to the authority of the emperor and the freedom of the nation; the new Gospel was also to be made subservient to this end, and this by the help of Luther himself.

After the failure of the revolution, Luther and Melanchthon began to proclaim the doctrine of the rulers' unlimited power over their subjects. Their dissolving principles had, within less than ten years, destroyed the existing order, but were unable to knit together its debris into a new system. So the secular powers were called on for help; the Church was placed at the service of the State, its authority, its wealth, its institutions all passed into the hands of kings, princes, and town magistrates. The one discarded Pope of Rome was replaced by scores of popes at home. These, "to strengthen themselves by alliances for the promulgation of the Gospel", banded together within the limits of the German Empire and made common cause against the emperor. From this time forward the progress of Protestantism is on political rather than on religious lines; the people are not clamouring for innovations, but the rulers find their advantage in being supreme bishops, and by force, or cunning, or both impose the yoke of the new Gospel on their subjects. Denmark, Sweden, Norway, England, and all the small principalities and imperial towns in Germany are examples in point. The supreme heads and governors were well aware that the principles which had brought down the authority of Rome would equally bring down their own; hence the penal laws everywhere enacted against dissenters from the state religion decreed by the temporal ruler. England under Henry VIII, Elizabeth, and the Puritans elaborated the most ferocious of all penal codes against Catholics and others unwilling to conform to the established religion.

To sum up: the much-vaunted Protestant principles only wrought disaster and confusion where they were allowed free play; order was only restored by reverting to something like the old system: symbols of faith imposed by an outside authority and enforced by the secular arm. No bond of union exists between the many national Churches, except their common hatred for "Rome", which is the birthmark of all, and the trade-mark of many, even unto our day.

_____________________

That was harsh even to me, and I am a Catholic.

Ecalpa, Confederate Farmers, Gagium

North Azarath wrote:Nosso governo realmente está errando muito, mas graças ao apoio que recebe não se dedica a melhorar, pois acha que está totalmente certo. A sociedade vem perdendo o senso de moralidade à muito tempo, não há no país uma grande exemplo de moralidade ou ética, o que deveria ser um quesito básico para um governante. Se tudo continuar dessa forma, a direita brasileira pode voltar ao ostracismo por suas próprias falhas em escolher seus representantes e teóricos.

Encoded message:

Sim, mas desta vez os socialistas não vão ser pegos de surpresa, a patrulha ideológica que eles fazem vai aumentar e o totalitarismo cultural vai aumentar eles vão estar preparados contra a dissidência agora. A maioria dos conservadores colocaram todas as suas fichas em Bolsonaro sem raciocínio crítico ("crítico" no sentido original).

Somos brasileiros e como tal sabemos o que ética significa aqui, uma piada, ser ético no Brasil é o equivalente a ser um trouxa.

O senso de moralidade brasileiro sempre foi baixo, somos conservadores de fim de semana ou socialistas de Iphone. Se líderes éticos aparecerem eles não terão apoio popular, as pessoas veem ética como uma barreira de otários fracos para se chegar a grandeza ou ao que se acredita que se deve ser feito, Brasileiros são consequencialistas.

Graças ao Bolsonaro veremos a maconha para uso recreativo e o aborto sendo legalizado no Brasil possívelmenta ainda no próximo governo, afinal, o que importa aqui é sexo e prazer, e restringir ambos impede que a overdose disso continue, além disso para o Brasileiro, apenas ter a barriga cheia importa, somos um povo fútil ao extremo.

Bolsonaro destruiu o conservadorismo e toda a direita, e por no mínimo vinte anos ão teremos uma outra oportunidade, estaremos na periferia política outra vez.

Olavo de Carvalho também merece seu prêmio de fdp por esquecer o que sempre defendia e acreditar em seu próprio mito.

End of encoded message.

Confederate Farmers, New Waldensia, Gagium

Confederate Farmers wrote:In my own world im a Torah conservative I'm sure you have read my politics I would probably be a Palo Libertarian . what would you define me as ?

I suppose I would classify you as a libertarian.

Atrides wrote:snip

You sure love to talk about "atheist arrogance" while copypasting 47 paragraphs from Wikipedia just to show how smart you are.

Atrides, Confederate Farmers, Viridus, Gagium, The Sladerstan

Greetings all!

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, The Sladerstan

Liberated American Provinces wrote:I suppose I would classify you as a libertarian.

What do you classify me as?

Liberated American Provinces, Gagium

Liberated American Provinces wrote:Yeah ContraPoints is pretty good but also very weird. Another person I occasionally listen to is Kyle Kulinski.

Yeah I got into his channel

Liberated American Provinces, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, The Sladerstan

For conservatives I watch Crowder, shapiro, and rogan. Idk though about shapiro, he's just a little too conservative and serious. Sometimes I wont agree with him

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, The Sladerstan

The Greysonian Empire wrote:For conservatives I watch Crowder, shapiro, and rogan. Idk though about shapiro, he's just a little too conservative and serious. Sometimes I wont agree with him

:bendabs: :happycrowder:

Viridus, Dragons Of Power, The Sladerstan

Post by Furbish Islands suppressed by a moderator.

#freesci

New Waldensia

Liberated American Provinces wrote:I suppose I would classify you as a libertarian.

You sure love to talk about "atheist arrogance" while copypasting 47 paragraphs from Wikipedia just to show how smart you are.

It was not from Wikipedia, it was from a Catholic Encyclopedia that is made by people who really study the subjects, not a mob made wiki.

I don't need to show how smart I am my friend, I am a Lawyer laureate on law AND philosophy with emphasis on family law, ethics, epistemology, philosophy of law and logic, I am, and forgive my arrogance, REALLY SMART, I don't have to fake humility about that.

I don't need Wikipedia, RationalWiki or Conservapedia, I have reliable sources and contrary to people who use this as sources I really read books.

With kindness, Emperor Svensgaard of the Star Empire of Atrides.

Gagium, Kujawy

Atrides wrote:-snip-

How much does it cost to buy a degree in Brazil?

Viridus, Gagium

In accordance with Article I, Section III of the Constitution, I am notifying the RMB that I kicked Furbish Islands from the server tonight for spamming.

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Mietkael, Holy Rhinish Islands, Logon, The Sladerstan

Fluvannia wrote:In accordance with Article I, Section III of the Constitution, I am notifying the RMB that I kicked Furbish Islands from the server tonight for spamming.

was waiting for this

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia

In accordance with Article I, Section III of the Constitution, I am notifying the RMB that I kicked Gagium from the server tonight for spamming. Also he pretty much asked me to.

Liberated American Provinces, Washingtonian Republic, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Mietkael, Holy Rhinish Islands, Logon, The Sladerstan

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:was waiting for this

Took me a second to find the clause that required it, I knew I had to though.

Washingtonian Republic, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Logon, The Sladerstan

https://youtu.be/SO9_uHHLVU8

I was playing SCP-087-B on my phone and this happened. It never happened to me until now.

(Yes this is the actual video I uploaded)

Gagium

Fluvannia wrote:In accordance with Article I, Section III of the Constitution, I am notifying the RMB that I kicked Gagium from the server tonight for spamming. Also he pretty much asked me to.

Sad gamer hours

Gagium, Fluvannia

Guess who?

Gagium, The Sladerstan

Post self-deleted by Gagium.

The Clone Republic wrote:Guess who?

Rot in hell

Fluvannia, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Sladerstan

Classy

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, The Cot Corporation, The Sladerstan

North Azarath wrote:what states did you come to?

São Paulo state

Atrides, Gagium, The Sladerstan

Gagium wrote:Rot in hell

I believe he is banned

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, The Sladerstan

Logon wrote:I believe he is in a band

Fixed it

New Waldensia, Gagium, Dragons Of Power

The Sladerstan wrote:What do you classify me as?

You seem to be a pretty typical conservative.

Atrides wrote:snip

You are the whole circus.

Atrides, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, The Sladerstan

I'm might make a countryball animation of the FCN-

or try.

Who wants to be in it? I'll have me, Gagium, Viridus, and Aglonia, for comedic purposes.

It'll be somewhat based on actual events and just random things.

Will take me very long.

Note: I MIGHT

New Waldensia, Gagium, Fluvannia, Dragons Of Power, Logon

The Sladerstan wrote:I'm might make a countryball animation of the FCN-

or try.

Who wants to be in it? I'll have me, Gagium, Viridus, and Aglonia, for comedic purposes.

It'll be somewhat based on actual events and just random things.

Will take me very long.

Note: I MIGHT

Me

Gagium, Dragons Of Power, The Sladerstan

Logon wrote:Me

I'll start it some time soon. But it really depends because sometimes my animation software is very glitchy and it angers me, and I just give up. Keep in mind I'm using a phone to animate- and an app called Prisma 3d

Gagium, Logon

The Sladerstan wrote:I'm might make a countryball animation of the FCN-

or try.

Who wants to be in it? I'll have me, Gagium, Viridus, and Aglonia, for comedic purposes.

It'll be somewhat based on actual events and just random things.

Will take me very long.

Note: I MIGHT

The Sladerstan wrote:I'm might make a countryball animation of the FCN-

or try.

Who wants to be in it? I'll have me, Gagium, Viridus, and Aglonia, for comedic purposes.

It'll be somewhat based on actual events and just random things.

Will take me very long.

Note: I MIGHT

Me.

Gagium, Dragons Of Power, The Sladerstan

Word of advice: Don't Google Aglonia. The images related to his flag are-

Viridus wrote: hentai

Well actually one

Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia

Oh damn uh the animation is 100x harder than I thought.

I'll just draw a comic

Also, Gagium, did you ever finish that coup-tember one?

Gagium, Dragons Of Power, The Cot Corporation

So what countries are y'all from? The last few regions I was in didn't have too many people close to my timezone so I'm just curious as to what country makes up the most members!

I'm from the central US myself.

Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado, Dragons Of Power

Kujawy wrote:So what countries are y'all from? The last few regions I was in didn't have too many people close to my timezone so I'm just curious as to what country makes up the most members!

I'm from the central US myself.

Most of us are US, but we have a couple of Brits, Brazilians, Canadians, and Aussies. I'm south-central US (Oklahoma).

Atrides, Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado, Dragons Of Power, Kujawy

Get in and VOTE FOR Repeal: “Reproductive Freedoms” ASAP!! https://www.nationstates.net/page=ga

Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Gagium, Mietkael

Kujawy wrote:So what countries are y'all from? The last few regions I was in didn't have too many people close to my timezone so I'm just curious as to what country makes up the most members!

I'm from the central US myself.

California.

This state is underground China.

Anything and everything Republican is determined as hate speech, and censored here.

Atrides, Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado, Kujawy

Kujawy wrote:So what countries are y'all from? The last few regions I was in didn't have too many people close to my timezone so I'm just curious as to what country makes up the most members!

I'm from the central US myself.

New Waldensia wrote:Most of us are US, but we have a couple of Brits, Brazilians, Canadians, and Aussies. I'm south-central US (Oklahoma).

I'm one of the Canadians :). But I'm a first-generation Canadian as my family is from Romania.

Atrides, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Kujawy

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