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Also on a side note: I am playing Skyrim atm and getting ready to enter the supposedly tough as adamantine quest of Labryinthian. However I’m hoping my previous encounter with a dragon priest and game-changing piece of advice from The Legion Of Mankind will make this...10% easier. 😓

Gagium

Hmm... well my nation just changed government types 3 times in 5 issues...and are now a socialist economy too.

Seconds ago: Following new legislation in The Rouge Christmas State, hunters often become the hunted.

Seconds ago: The Rouge Christmas State was reclassified from "New York Times Democracy" to "Inoffensive Centrist Democracy".

2 minutes ago: Following new legislation in The Rouge Christmas State, only AIs know why the nation is rapidly increasing its semiconductor stockpile.

2 minutes ago: The Rouge Christmas State was reclassified from "Corporate Bordello" to "New York Times Democracy".

3 minutes ago: Following new legislation in The Rouge Christmas State, the government has an entire department dedicated to staring at microscopes and writing down letters.

5 minutes ago: Following new legislation in The Rouge Christmas State, citizens are encouraged to show displeasure with politicians by poking them with sharp metal sticks.

5 minutes ago: The Rouge Christmas State was reclassified from "Capitalist Paradise" to "Corporate Bordello".

Liberated American Provinces, New Waldensia, Gagium

Otira wrote:lol what a convoluted non sequitur

It is a statistical reality just like how basically every person of European descent is a descendant of Charlemagne

Gagium

But seriously anyone wanna take part in possible history?

Granluras wrote:Also on a side note: I am playing Skyrim atm and getting ready to enter the supposedly tough as adamantine quest of Labryinthian. However I’m hoping my previous encounter with a dragon priest and game-changing piece of advice from The Legion Of Mankind will make this...10% easier. 😓

It's like you've never played Skyrim before, lol

Gagium

The Rouge Christmas State wrote:Hmm... well my nation just changed government types 3 times in 5 issues...and are now a socialist economy too.

Seconds ago: Following new legislation in The Rouge Christmas State, hunters often become the hunted.

Seconds ago: The Rouge Christmas State was reclassified from "New York Times Democracy" to "Inoffensive Centrist Democracy".

2 minutes ago: Following new legislation in The Rouge Christmas State, only AIs know why the nation is rapidly increasing its semiconductor stockpile.

2 minutes ago: The Rouge Christmas State was reclassified from "Corporate Bordello" to "New York Times Democracy".

3 minutes ago: Following new legislation in The Rouge Christmas State, the government has an entire department dedicated to staring at microscopes and writing down letters.

5 minutes ago: Following new legislation in The Rouge Christmas State, citizens are encouraged to show displeasure with politicians by poking them with sharp metal sticks.

5 minutes ago: The Rouge Christmas State was reclassified from "Capitalist Paradise" to "Corporate Bordello".

IMPEACH THIS MAN.

Furbish Islands, Viridus

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Wow idk if it’s a testament to my character’s strength or to their weakness but Dragon Priests are easy af

Gagium

Granluras wrote:Wow idk if it’s a testament to my character’s strength or to their weakness but Dragon Priests are easy af

Viridus wrote:It's like you've never played Skyrim before, lol

smh

The Rouge Christmas State, Furbish Islands, Gagium, The Legion Of Mankind

Granluras wrote:Also on a side note: I am playing Skyrim atm and getting ready to enter the supposedly tough as adamantine quest of Labryinthian. However I’m hoping my previous encounter with a dragon priest and game-changing piece of advice from The Legion Of Mankind will make this...10% easier. 😓

Nah bro, you’ll die.

Almurta, The Rouge Christmas State, Viridus, Gagium

The Legion Of Mankind wrote:Nah bro, you’ll die.

Ouch. Not wrong, but ouch.

Viridus, Gagium, The Legion Of Mankind

Viridus wrote:smh

Ikr what a noob.

Viridus, Gagium

Viridus wrote:smh

Ikr what a noob.

Viridus, Gagium

The Legion Of Mankind wrote:Ikr what a noob.

Er...

Viridus, The Legion Of Mankind

Gagium wrote:Er...

Hail the FCN!

Viridus, Gagium

Ok so Discord officially sucks:

“We've looked into the original report and have confirmed the violation of our Terms of Service. We will not be reinstating the account.”

Viridus, Gagium

Granluras wrote:Ok so Discord officially sucks:

“We've looked into the original report and have confirmed the violation of our Terms of Service. We will not be reinstating the account.”

Nice, congratulations!

Gagium

Viridus wrote:Nice, congratulations!

bish

Gagium

Granluras wrote:bish

Just make a new account with a new emaiL

Viridus, Gagium

The Legion Of Mankind wrote:Just make a new account with a new emaiL

yeah i know. but how am i going to get my old servers back?

Gagium

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Furbish Islands wrote:What rule did you even violate?

Apparently I participate in digital hate crimes

Viridus, Gagium

Granluras wrote:Apparently I participate in digital hate crimes

...... how?

Viridus, Gagium

"Federation Of Conservative Nations is a enormous region, with a very large community of 208 member nations. Federation Of Conservative Nations features a very respectable representation in the World Assembly, with 49 member nations." http://nswiki.org/index.php?title=Region/Federation_of_Conservative_Nations

Just slightly outdated as it still has Libervalley as Delegate. Also, we never hit 208.

Viridus, Gagium

New Waldensia wrote:...... how?

beats me

Gagium

Crimsonfield wrote:San Carlos Islands after seeing this discussion, i feel it backs my assumptions that you are nothing more than an attention seeking snob. You claim of yourself better than anyone else, but your whole dignity has been washed away as the FCN moves on from you and your petty divisions. You leaving is a welcome change.

One year and 2 days ago

Also, we're about a month away from the whole Liberation anniversary.

Viridus, Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth

Gagium wrote:@everyone Executive order 3:

‘Marshal’ law has been declared on the FCN. Per the constitution, “marshal law may be enacted upon the region, allowing for the founder to be temporary leader of the region and armed forces, and for all officers to be dismissed until marshal law ends. The senate shall not be dismissed, but no bills shall pass in times of marshal law, though the senate can come together and vote to end marshal law.”

9/13/18. Another important anniversary coming up.

Tesyky, Viridus, Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth

New Waldensia wrote:One year and 2 days ago

And that was a lie...

Polish Prussian Commonwealth

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anyone wanna join me in hexing discord?

Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Gagium

Granluras wrote:anyone wanna join me in hexing discord?

Wdym

Viridus

Gagium wrote:Wdym

ok good

Liberated American Provinces, Gagium

New Waldensia wrote:One year and 2 days ago

Also, we're about a month away from the whole Liberation anniversary.

That was a good argument, tbh

New Waldensia, Gagium

San Carlos Islands wrote:I hope y'all can do what I did. Right now I feel happier and better about myself then I ever did as a member of this region.

Set the FCN down for a week, you at the end of that week you'll realize how good you had it before you hit that Move [Insert country here] to the Federation of Conservative Nations button.

How the times have changed! lol, Came back to us, begging to be let back in

New Waldensia, Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth

Viridus wrote:How the times have changed! lol, Came back to us, begging to be let back in

*looks at calendar*

The largest changes are yet to come

New Waldensia, Viridus

Gagium wrote:*looks at calendar*

The largest changes are yet to come

Yeah, still waiting on the glorious return of Crimmy in September

Gagium

Viridus wrote:Yeah, still waiting on the glorious return of Crimmy in September

Crummy Two: DDoS boogaloo

New Waldensia, Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth

Copperhead Gang Assemble

Confederate Farmers, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth

Liberated American Provinces wrote:It is a statistical reality just like how basically every person of European descent is a descendant of Charlemagne

It's just funny because it's basically irrelevant to the point he raised.

Viridus, Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth

> when AOC calls the EC a racist scam

I guess anything to ensure anti-democratic biased elections

Viridus, Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth

Guys you know what I’ve realized about white supremacists? They’re the worst examples of white people.

Like seriously they look like their moms all drank and smoked during pregnancy.

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Granluras, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, Ferlik, Prritish Timezone

Otira wrote:It's just funny because it's basically irrelevant to the point he raised.

He literally said . . .

Pere Housh Alpha wrote:Actually my family never owned slaves

I was pointing out why that is probably inaccurate taking into consideration the point he made about most southerners not owning slaves.

Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, Ferlik

New Inglaterra wrote:Guys you know what I’ve realized about white supremacists? They’re the worst examples of white people.

Like seriously they look like their moms all drank and smoked during pregnancy.

It’s a psychological complex of a compensatory and dissonant psyche.

Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth

Trust me I know a guy who walks the dog of a psychologist

Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth

San Carlos Islands wrote:Copperhead Gang Assemble

Wait you came back

Gagium

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Furbish Islands wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1166128

So is the CP. Except we already have plenty of active members, and our leader isn't autistic

But that’s wrong-

Oh right, Libervalley is the chair now. nvm

Viridus, Dragons Of Power, Mietkael

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Liberated American Provinces wrote:He literally said . . .

I was pointing out why that is probably inaccurate taking into consideration the point he made about most southerners not owning slaves.

And I was pointing out your observation is irrelevant to the point. His family didn't own slaves, and some gobbledygook about possibly being related at some point in some way distantly to the 2% who owned slaves is at best reaching. In a classic debate setting your premise would have been laughed out of the room, particularly when it's easier to criticize their participation in economic practices that may have supported slavery, or what their political decisions (if they possessed the sovereign franchise) were with regards to support of slavery. But to say, "Well, you might be distantly related to someone who did a thing you didn't." That just tickles me lol

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Pere Housh Alpha

Furbish Islands wrote:Lol

Glad you found it to be the funny

Viridus, Dragons Of Power

Thoughts on conservative socialism and conservative communism?

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Ferlik

Markev wrote:Thoughts on conservative socialism and conservative communism?

Oxymorons.

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Mietkael

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Markev wrote:Thoughts on conservative socialism and conservative communism?

It’s kinda like kosher bacon, or a vegan cheeseburger.

Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Mietkael

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Markev wrote:Thoughts on conservative socialism and conservative communism?

Definitely oxymorons

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power

George McClellen would have fractured the union further, eventually he would’ve permitted the southern states to leave. Later repercussions would be impoverishment for both American states.

Viridus, Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, Wildflecken

Markev wrote:Thoughts on conservative socialism and conservative communism?

They exist. There was conservative communism under Enver Hoxha, and as Stalin consolidated power he enacted some more conservative social polices. And right-wing socialism and conservative socialism have had their practitioners and advocates; Prussia had a minister in 1848 who supported state regulation of the economy. You get things like State Capitalism that China practices. And then there is Christian Socialism, who follow Christ's teachings against capitalism and idolatry of money.

Thing is, conservatism doesn't really have a solid, water-proof 100% definition with every follower. Having lurked here a while I've seen virtually every resident has their own interpretation of what it is to be conservative. Some follow the almighty dollar, some the traditional family, some a religion. I've seen the question posed here before: "What are you conserving?" And not many can answer beyond one of those. And to me they all seem like individual puzzle pieces that each clutches and claims to be the whole.

Viridus, Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, Ferlik

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Washingtonian Republic wrote:George McClellen would have fractured the union further, eventually he would’ve permitted the southern states to leave. Later repercussions would be impoverishment for both American states.

Jefferson Davis did nothing wrong.

Washingtonian Republic, Viridus, Gagium

Wildflecken wrote:They exist. There was conservative communism under Enver Hoxha, and as Stalin consolidated power he enacted some more conservative social polices. And right-wing socialism and conservative socialism have had their practitioners and advocates; Prussia had a minister in 1848 who supported state regulation of the economy. You get things like State Capitalism that China practices. And then there is Christian Socialism, who follow Christ's teachings against capitalism and idolatry of money.

Thing is, conservatism doesn't really have a solid, water-proof 100% definition with every follower. Having lurked here a while I've seen virtually every resident has their own interpretation of what it is to be conservative. Some follow the almighty dollar, some the traditional family, some a religion. I've seen the question posed here before: "What are you conserving?" And not many can answer beyond one of those. And to me they all seem like individual puzzle pieces that each clutches and claims to be the whole.

...does wanting to reset the map and political situation of Europe to what it was before the """French Revolution""" count?

Viridus, Gagium

Granluras wrote:Anyone wanna read a fantasy book I’m writing and have a part in history if I become famous?

As a fellow writer, I would love to take a look

Viridus, Gagium, Pere Housh Alpha

Granluras wrote:Anyone wanna read a fantasy book I’m writing and have a part in history if I become famous?

I'm willing to read it as I always love a good book.

Viridus, Gagium

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Granluras wrote:Yall chads

Same

Viridus, Gagium

Granluras wrote:Yall chads

Granluras wrote:Yall chads

The Legion Of Mankind wrote:Same

Same

Gagium

Viridus wrote:Same

emaS

Viridus, Gagium

Otira wrote:And I was pointing out your observation is irrelevant to the point. His family didn't own slaves, and some gobbledygook about possibly being related at some point in some way distantly to the 2% who owned slaves is at best reaching. In a classic debate setting your premise would have been laughed out of the room, particularly when it's easier to criticize their participation in economic practices that may have supported slavery, or what their political decisions (if they possessed the sovereign franchise) were with regards to support of slavery. But to say, "Well, you might be distantly related to someone who did a thing you didn't." That just tickles me lol

He said one particular branch of his family who lived in one particular place didn't own slaves. Just because that is true doesn't mean none of his other ancestors owned slaves. That makes everything you just said irrelevant. Also, I am not here criticize his ancestors if they owned slaves. I have some ancestors who owned slaves. But the sins of the father do not pass to the son.

Gagium

Random Fact: When use prisoners as penal labor, primarily for the construction of hyperloop tunnels[1], roads, bridges, and houses. One example being a hyperloop tunnel built over 229-230 miles between Key West and Havana. It should be noted that automation and the emergence of new fields of occupation has limited this practice.

[1] See Elon Musk

Gagium

Liberated American Provinces wrote:He said one particular branch of his family who lived in one particular place didn't own slaves. Just because that is true doesn't mean none of his other ancestors owned slaves. That makes everything you just said irrelevant. Also, I am not here criticize his ancestors if they owned slaves. I have some ancestors who owned slaves. But the sins of the father do not pass to the son.

Boy you waffle back and forth. The sins don’t pass, you’re not here to criticize, but hey you’re just so certain that distant family you can’t prove exist and that he doesn’t draw his descent from owned slaves. But you also think it doesn’t matter and you’re not going to blame, even though you don’t care so much you’re going to insist on it.

Haha I’d say stop before you dig your argument deeper, but I’ve never known your type to understand discretion.

Viridus, Gagium

Washingtonian Republic wrote:Random Fact: When use prisoners as penal labor, primarily for the construction of hyperloop tunnels[1], roads, bridges, and houses. One example being a hyperloop tunnel built over 90 miles between Key West and Havana. It should be noted that automation and the emergence of new fields of occupation has limited this practice.

[1] See Elon Musk

"a hyperloop tunnel built over 90 miles between Key West and Havana"

No, I'm gonna need a source there man

Washingtonian Republic, Viridus

Otira wrote:Boy you waffle back and forth. The sins don’t pass, you’re not here to criticize, but hey you’re just so certain that distant family you can’t prove exist and that he doesn’t draw his descent from owned slaves. But you also think it doesn’t matter and you’re not going to blame, even though you don’t care so much you’re going to insist on it.

Haha I’d say stop before you dig your argument deeper, but I’ve never known your type to understand discretion.

All I did originally was point out that some of his family probably did own slaves for the sake of genealogical and statistical accuracy. I never criticized him because of it. Keep putting words in my mouth.

Gagium, Ferlik

Polish Prussian Commonwealth wrote:...does wanting to reset the map and political situation of Europe to what it was before the """French Revolution""" count?

Couldn’t hurt... I think.

Otira wrote:Boy you waffle back and forth. The sins don’t pass, you’re not here to criticize, but hey you’re just so certain that distant family you can’t prove exist and that he doesn’t draw his descent from owned slaves. But you also think it doesn’t matter and you’re not going to blame, even though you don’t care so much you’re going to insist on it.

Perhaps ironically it sounds like a typical leftist argument: “I don’t blame you for your ancestors necessarily but you’re related to them and they were evil. Now stop liking [thing].”

Viridus, Gagium

Otira wrote:Boy you waffle back and forth. The sins don’t pass, you’re not here to criticize, but hey you’re just so certain that distant family you can’t prove exist and that he doesn’t draw his descent from owned slaves. But you also think it doesn’t matter and you’re not going to blame, even though you don’t care so much you’re going to insist on it.

Haha I’d say stop before you dig your argument deeper, but I’ve never known your type to understand discretion.

Oh

Otira, Gagium

Wildflecken wrote:Couldn’t hurt... I think.

Perhaps ironically it sounds like a typical leftist argument: “I don’t blame you for your ancestors necessarily but you’re related to them and they were evil. Now stop liking [thing].”

Stop liking slavery? Is that supposed to be a bad thing?

Gagium, Ferlik

Liberated American Provinces wrote:All I did originally was point out that some of his family probably did own slaves for the sake of genealogical and statistical accuracy. I never criticized him because of it. Keep putting words in my mouth.

All you did was attempt a strawman of irrelevance. And that’s just sad. Cheers.

Wildflecken wrote:Couldn’t hurt... I think.

Perhaps ironically it sounds like a typical leftist argument: “I don’t blame you for your ancestors necessarily but you’re related to them and they were evil. Now stop liking [thing].”

It’s exactly that type of disingenuous argument, which is why I called it out. I’m surprised more people didn’t. I mean seriously, accusing someone whose family didn’t own slaves of being distantly related to people who did? That’s so passive aggressive and snide it’s insulting.

Liberated American Provinces wrote:Stop liking slavery? Is that supposed to be a bad thing?

His family and/or the Confederacy, darling. His family didn’t own slaves, so how could you come to the conclusion that he liked them?

Viridus, Gagium

Otira wrote:All you did was attempt a strawman of irrelevance. And that’s just sad. Cheers.

It’s exactly that type of disingenuous argument, which is why I called it out. I’m surprised more people didn’t. I mean seriously, accusing someone whose family didn’t own slaves of being distantly related to people who did? That’s so passive aggressive and snide it’s insulting.

His family and/or the Confederacy, darling. His family didn’t own slaves, so how could you come to the conclusion that he liked them?

Lol I don't care if he likes his ancestors or not. You're going to have plenty of ancestors who did morally reprehensible things, but to deny their existence is plain stupid.

Gagium, Ferlik

Polish Prussian Commonwealth wrote:Wait you came back

You didn't realize that he's been back for quite some time?

The Rouge Christmas State, Viridus, San Carlos Islands

A Koch Brother is dead and Ginsburg is in the midst of another cancer scare...

Trump curse lives on!

Washingtonian Republic, Viridus, Gagium

Furbish Islands wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1166128

So is the CP. Except we already have plenty of active members, and our leader isn't autistic

Lol

Viridus, Gagium

Gagium wrote:"a hyperloop tunnel built over 90 miles between Key West and Havana"

No, I'm gonna need a source there man

That's from Key West to Havana.

More realistically would be from Miami to Havana over 229 miles. The sea levels has dropped so that will effect the distance.

Gagium

Liberated American Provinces wrote:Lol I don't care if he likes his ancestors or not. You're going to have plenty of ancestors who did morally reprehensible things, but to deny their existence is plain stupid.

You cared enough to try and disparage hypothetical ancestors to him lol. Says everything that need be said about you.

Viridus, Gagium

Otira wrote:You cared enough to try and disparage hypothetical ancestors to him lol. Says everything that need be said about you.

Nah, I care about genealogy. How is pointing out facts disparaging people? You're just looking for someone of whom to be offended on their behalf.

Gagium, Ferlik

Liberated American Provinces wrote:Nah, I care about genealogy.

Why?

Liberated American Provinces

Gagium wrote:Why?

It's one of my hobbies

Gagium, Ferlik

Liberated American Provinces wrote:It's one of my hobbies

Ah, cool..But I presume it's one of your hobbies *because* you care about it, not the other way around?

Liberated American Provinces, Viridus

Gagium wrote:Ah, cool..But I presume it's one of your hobbies *because* you care about it, not the other way around?

Well originally I got interested when I was little because I wanted to know if any of my ancestors were knights lol. I guess I just like to see where my family was in relation to history. It's just cool to me.

Gagium, Ferlik

Liberated American Provinces wrote:Well originally I got interested when I was little because I wanted to know if any of my ancestors were knights lol. I guess I just like to see where my family was in relation to history. It's just cool to me.

Ah, okay

Liberated American Provinces

Gagium wrote:Ah, okay

I must admit I brought up my point very poorly. All I intended to do was address a common genealogical misconception.

Gagium

Liberated American Provinces wrote:Nah, I care about genealogy. How is pointing out facts disparaging people? You're just looking for someone of whom to be offended on their behalf.

If you cared about it and were serious, you’d be basing your claims in sources and citations, not “ur dudes wer prolly related to slave owners at some point maybe but I got no proofs.”

Lol. What a silly transformation of an argument.

Viridus, Gagium

Liberated American Provinces wrote:Well originally I got interested when I was little because I wanted to know if any of my ancestors were knights lol. I guess I just like to see where my family was in relation to history. It's just cool to me.

Now that’s actually a little neat. I’m a descendant of one of William the Conqueror’s companions. That line was landed until a certain protector. Did you find any knights?

Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Gagium

Otira wrote:Now that’s actually a little neat. I’m a descendant of one of William the Conqueror’s companions. That line was landed until a certain protector. Did you find any knights?

Oh yeah? Well I'm a descendant of the literal first humans, Adam and Eve. Take that!

Liberated American Provinces, New Waldensia, Viridus, Ferlik, Pere Housh Alpha, Barry Goldwater The Ghost

Hello

Otira, Viridus, Gagium

Wolnesk wrote:Hello

Hey, welcome! We’re glad to have you here!

Viridus

Gagium wrote:Oh yeah? Well I'm a descendant of the literal first humans, Adam and Eve. Take that!

I challenge you to prove you are human and not an AI guiding FCN.

I'll wait.

Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Gagium

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