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Paleoconservative Citizens wrote:Highschool DXD is filth

Idk man, the uh... plot is very interesting

Gagium, North Masonville

Gagium wrote:Name one species on this planet that’re smarter than humans

orcas. maybe dolphins but the rape caves are creepy.

Viridus, North Masonville

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North Masonville wrote:You know some people want to make me commit neck rope bungie jump tbh and this comments section...is one of those things...

Thank you, I try my best

Gagium, Dragons Of Power

North Masonville wrote:Yeah that's how it is in my university as well tbh at this point idk if I can even open my mouth anymore. You want to engage in an actual debate and answer questions but these people just begin to scream at you with range and anger and sometimes if you've seen the videos, they spit on people.

Me: *Trying to remain calm and explains everything*

Them: You stupid f***, where does it say that?

Me: *Explains it again and even adds more proof*

Them: You still haven't explained it!

Me: I just did

Them: No you didn't!

Me: *Explains it in extreme detail*

Them: Okay but you still didn't explain it

Gagium, Dragons Of Power, North Masonville

North Masonville wrote:

All animals, they may be unintelligent in the way they cannot speak or cannot do math or drive a car but they are more intelligent than any human, because humans we love to pretend like we know everything but in reality we don't and all we do is screw ourselves over.

2deep4me

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power

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North Masonville wrote:All animals

Name one animal species who has been able to engineer skyscrapers stretching hundreds of feet into the sky, highway networks stretching thousands of thousands of miles, transformed terrain and pushed the oceans back, built towering churches and cathedrals to honor the Lord, created empires spanning the globe, and went to the moon and Space..and then tell me if animals are smarter or more intelligent than humans.

Hell, if you don’t want to look at the world, then read Genesis and tell me which species was created to be more intelligent - No, which species is more intelligent..

New Waldensia, Viridus, Dragons Of Power

Gagium wrote:Name one animal species who has been able to engineer skyscrapers stretching hundreds of feet into the sky, highway networks stretching thousands of thousands of miles, transformed terrain and pushed the oceans back, built towering churches and cathedrals to honor the Lord, created empires spanning the globe, and went to the moon and Space..and then tell me if animals are smarter or more intelligent than humans.

Hell, if you don’t want to look at the world, then read Genesis and tell me which species was created to be more intelligent - No, which species is more intelligent..

haven't you seen James Cameron's Avatar? humans are the real animals

Viridus, Gagium

North Masonville wrote:if we weren't here, animals would keep everything beautiful

A lot of architecture is beautiful though

Gagium

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North Masonville wrote:....no no i mean not intelligent based on like how we measure it but animals, if we weren't here, animals would keep everything beautiful.

wouldn't they just passively exist until either the environment is unable to support them or another species pushes them to extinction? passivity doesn't strike me as a mark of intelligence.

Viridus, Gagium

Numenar wrote:haven't you seen James Cameron's Avatar? humans are the real animals

It’s been a few years, and then then I’m sure I only watched parts of it..

Sure, we’re animals and we’ll always be animals, but we’re animals that’ve done what no other species can even perceive doing, so that makes us damn smart animals!

Viridus, Dragons Of Power

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North Masonville wrote:Ok i'm not disagreeing with you but here's the thing it never said we were more intelligent, I mean we are IN THOSE WAYS but that's not the ONLY intelligence there is. It said we were given dominion over the Earth.

WE FOLLOW SIN, we are gullible, we are vulnerable, we would rather follow evil than follow what is good. We are blind, lets not pretend people are extremely blind when they want to be blind.

People are not as smart as they think they are. Furthermore, building a church doesn't make you smart not in the eyes of God. Serving him makes you smart. You can have as many degrees as you want but you aren't better than someone who has no degrees.

I’ll address one point here: If serving God makes you smart, then have you ever seen an animal spread the gospel or the teachings of Christ? :P

Viridus, Dragons Of Power

Gagium wrote:It’s been a few years, and then then I’m sure I only watched parts of it..

Sure, we’re animals and we’ll always be animals, but we’re animals that’ve done what no other species can even perceive doing, so that makes us damn smart animals!

maybe the real smart animals were the friends we made along the way

Viridus, Gagium

Numenar are you on Discord?

Gagium

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North Masonville wrote:Yes but we destroy things. Well the government, which is evil, destroys things. We do what the government tells us to do, people are like puppets.

God gave us trees so that we could chop them down and build stuff using the wood!

New Waldensia, Gagium

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Viridus wrote:Numenar are you on Discord?

no why?

Gagium

North Masonville wrote:Animals can't serve God dear.

I’m glad you’re accepting my point...Now, since animals cannot serve God, and serving the Lord determines intelligence, then how can you possibly state that animals are smarter than humans when they cannot serve God in your own words?

New Waldensia, Viridus, Dragons Of Power, North Masonville

North Masonville wrote:Animals don't have a spirit a soul a consciousness a breath of life, they are simply to show the beauty and glory of God because they are beautiful. We were created to serve him. Humans are naive, we're slaves to sin. Adam and Eve were. We are, everyone is. It doesn't matter how much rocket science you know, you still don't know everything and you're still a slave to sin. And the devil is still very tempting.

I don’t see how animals are smarter than us if they’re simply creations of God to show his glory and the beauty of His word and gospel

New Waldensia, Viridus, Dragons Of Power, North Masonville

Gagium wrote:I’m glad you’re accepting my point...Now, since animals cannot serve God, and serving the Lord determines intelligence, then how can you possibly state that animals are smarter than humans when they cannot serve God in your own words?

:HappyStevenCrowder:

New Waldensia, Gagium

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Numenar wrote:no why?

Just wondering, you seem pretty cool

Gagium

Viridus wrote:God gave us trees so that we could chop them down and build stuff using the wood!

People: *Uses wood to build contraptions to torture Christians.*

God: Am I a joke to you?

Viridus, North Masonville

North Masonville wrote:No they wouldn't, study animals. Nature keeps them in balance. One gets killed, more are born. They keep on giving to the Earth they don't rob the Earth of anything. They don't mine coal, they don't cut down forests or pollute anything.

"nature" sounds like the invisible hand of the free market here. the animals are passive and at its mercy. doesn't sound very intelligent to me, sounds like a creature made to be used by nature, man or God.

Viridus, Gagium

North Masonville wrote:Well I kind of understand what you're saying now so I think you're saying that since animals do not have a soul, spirit or consciousness then how can they be intelligent? Well that does make sense because they don't have the choice to follow God or the devil, so we don't know what they would do if they could. But I mean intelligence in the way that they don't destroy things like we do.

No, but they certainly don’t create like we do either. I’ve never seen intelligence measured by lack of thereof needed to do something anyways...Eh. Your argument just seems arbitrary tbh

Viridus, Dragons Of Power

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Viridus wrote:Just wondering, you seem pretty cool

oh thank you. maybe i will make a discord account.

Viridus, Gagium, Mietkael

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North Masonville wrote:animals aren't like humans in the way they don't destroy things or kill environments, they just keep it going.

Oh no! Not dEsTrOyInG the environment!

Gagium, Dragons Of Power

North Masonville wrote:hm i'm open to your side.

Wh...impossible..

Do you, like, know how hard it is these days to get someone to say they’re open to your side in an argument? These days nobody wants to admit they’re wrong...Well, nice I guess

but actually, the twitter comments on politician’s posts are actual cringe

Cool though

Viridus, Dragons Of Power

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North Masonville wrote:Nature is just the Earth and things on it that are natural, not man-made.

And yes you're right I think I understand Gagium's point is it can't be intelligent if it was never given the ability to choose God or the devil, so we don't know what it would do if it was put into such a situation. But I can't explain really what I mean in words but animals aren't like humans in the way they don't destroy things or kill environments, they just keep it going.

you could make the case that the beauty in humanity is that we have the capacity to destroy and kill but choose not to and aspire to better things, be in faith in god or our own species. we couldn't do good if we weren't capable of doing evil, and that range of moral self-actualization is what makes us more intelligent than other animals.

Viridus, Gagium, North Masonville

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North Masonville wrote:But humans aren't we worse than animals, we follow the devil more than Christ that's why Jesus says few will be saved in the Tribulation.

Perhaps, but - this is where I’m going to stop using your idea that intelligence is measured in faith and following of the Gospel - we sacrificed a lot when Adam and Eve ate the cursed fruit of Satin to gain what intellect truly is. That, in a biblical standpoint, is when our species became ‘intelligent’ - Not through following the Lord, but rather we gained intelligence by contradicting the Lord and turning away from Him...That is when we were truly separated from nature, despite having been created beforehand to tame it. And though we gained substantial intellect, we lost plenty at that moment

Viridus, Dragons Of Power, North Masonville

North Masonville wrote:I don't know why it messed up. I typed before that I do see your point and actually think I may be wrong because now I see, I can't call animals better than humans when animals haven't been given the ability to choose because if they were given the ability, they could be the same as humans.

It's in the quote

Gagium

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Gagium wrote:Perhaps, but - this is where I’m going to stop using your idea that intelligence is measured in faith and following of the Gospel - we sacrificed a lot when Adam and Eve ate the cursed fruit of Satin to gain what intellect truly is. That, in a biblical standpoint, is when our species became ‘intelligent’ - Not through following the Lord, but rather we gained intelligence by contradicting the Lord and turning away from Him...That is when we were truly separated from nature, despite having been created beforehand to tame it. And though we gained substantial intellect, we lost plenty at that moment

When did Gagium become a theologian? :thonking:

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, North Masonville

North Masonville wrote:Hm true yes well I don't think it's beauty to kill but I think that's the beauty of I guess, well i'm not sure but I think it explains that we do have the ability to follow God rather than sin.

Yes... you do realize that animals kill each other right? They barely have morals or a justice system and, tbh, when you think about it, animals are quite sinful themselves!

Gagium, Dragons Of Power

North Masonville, what denomination are you?

Viridus, Gagium

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North Masonville wrote:I mean if you think about it, Jesus is the one that gives us discernment and understanding not ourselves. We just follow the world because we like being rebellious because our nature is unclean.

Jesus gave us salvation and a second chance after the events of the Old Testament and after we strayed from the Lord - We’ve always has the ability to understand and follow His word, though through Jesus we were granted another chance due to Him dying for our sins...Or at least so we can repent our sins.

Viridus, Dragons Of Power, Paleoconservative Citizens

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North Masonville wrote:I mean if you think about it, Jesus is the one that gives us discernment and understanding not ourselves. We just follow the world because we like being rebellious because our nature is unclean.

It's the human nature to follow someone. Most people need a leader, and a strong one at that.

Look, I'm a Christian, and my father's side is Catholic, but these claims and arguments make no sense to me at all, or to anybody tbh. But, you're cool, but don't try and argue when your points and arguments are scattered, don't line up, and using religion in a debate.

Try not to use that, because a lot of people don't believe in a religion, which to me, is sad.

Viridus, Gagium, North Masonville

Viridus wrote:Yes... you do realize that animals kill each other right? They barely have morals or a justice system and, tbh, when you think about it, animals are quite sinful themselves!

That’s the beauty she’s talking about! Silly viridus!

Viridus, Dragons Of Power

North Masonville wrote:True yes but what I mean is discernment not understanding his scripture but there are things Jesus reveals to us in our walk with him and things we would not know if it wasn't for him revealing those things to us. There are things I didn't know about the world, or what was going on and nobody knew but as I was praying things clicked in my head and came together. Not things I did not understand that I already knew I mean things that people cannot have possibly known just by being human.

Oh...Eh, I can’t argue with that then because I agree with you now that you reiterate yourself here

Dragons Of Power, North Masonville

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North Masonville wrote:They don't make sense because I changed my opinion whilst listening to gagium and am now asking questions.

Well, it's good to ask questions.

So yes, listen to Gag, he'll explain stuff.

Gagium, North Masonville

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North Masonville wrote:Also I want to explain another reason why it could seem confusing, I was diagnosed with Autism when I was a little child, so yes I can sound very confused at times so plz bear with me this is something normal to me saying something i don't really understand and then later become confused at what i'm saying that's why I have to study it before hand.

Yes, I understand completely, and I'll bear with you.

Gagium, North Masonville

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Furbish Islands wrote:yay im first!

I just wanted to say, FCN good, LCN bad, fascism and communism are bad, Viridus is gay.

Vungar, I love you babe!

Bottom text.

Furby's legendary quote of power....

Furbish Islands, Gagium, North Masonville

Dragons Of Power wrote:Furby's legendary quote of power....

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Furbish Islands, Viridus, Dragons Of Power, Paleoconservative Citizens, North Masonville

North Masonville wrote:Thank you. I understand what Gagium is saying now to a certain extent but I need to go back and read it again because I need to peace it together in my brain like a formula but I did get the gist of what he said.

Yeah, take your time, and break it down.

Now since you're out of the debate, you're adrenaline in you're head has calmed down due to you being in a heated debate, so you'll catch stuff that you missed before.

Gagium, North Masonville

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Gagium wrote:Post self-deleted by Gagium.

Lmao

I remember what that said too on page 1000

It was, and I quote:

"Oh God"

Gagium

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North Masonville wrote:I have to write an essay and i've been procrastinating for a whole week and a half and thinking about my boyfriend whilst sitting in class so pretty much my grades are struggling and now im just dead inside pretty much and now i have to write this essay and my mind is completely blank at this point.

Oh, is your boyfriend on NS?

Gagium

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North Masonville wrote:the most relatible thing to me, is that one Spongebob episode the old one, where he has to write an essay and all he writes is THE in fancy letters....

Lol, yeah.

Viridus, Gagium

North Masonville wrote:the most relatible thing to me, is that one Spongebob episode the old one, where he has to write an essay and all he writes is THE in fancy letters....

Yeah, that's a great episode

Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Paleoconservative Citizens

North Masonville wrote:He is not on nation states unfortunately

Oh, get him on here then.

Lol

Gagium

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Dragons Of Power wrote:Oh, get him on here then.

Lol

I made my girlfriend get on NS, so why not?

Gagium

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North Masonville wrote:i dont even think my boyfriend knows this exists. I mean I showed him this page a while back maybe a few months ago and he said "aww" and then from that point on it became irrelevant

Hmm.

Gagium

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North Masonville wrote:I mean he's on discord

You could probably get him on here then.

Gagium

North Masonville wrote:I'll try to

Please don’t

Viridus, Dragons Of Power

Gets 7 notices at once.

Oh God, he's here!

Viridus, Gagium, Paleoconservative Citizens

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Furbish Islands wrote:Quote the full thing smh

Ah yes, the ping.

Viridus, Gagium

Gagium wrote:Please don’t

You're welcome. >:)

Gagium

North Masonville wrote:He's really nice though

Yes, but our RMB induces periodic severe cringe enough as is

Furbish Islands, New Waldensia, Viridus, Dragons Of Power, Paleoconservative Citizens, North Masonville

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North Masonville wrote:Well actually Gagium is right because it will turn into me sending a bunch of lovey things

Send those by Telegrams, not post them on the board. That's what I do, so Legion and the other's don't burn me at the stake :/

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Paleoconservative Citizens

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North Masonville wrote:Lol yeah true im not sure if I want him corrupted by this website

Yes, yes...Hey, at least our discord is better-ish-sometimes..But you must keep everyone away, this site does definitely corrupt!

Viridus, Dragons Of Power, North Masonville

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Furbish Islands wrote:yay im first!

I just wanted to say, FCN good, LCN bad, fascism and communism are bad, Viridus is gay.

Vungar, I love you babe!

Bottom text.

Furbish Islands, Gagium

North Masonville wrote:Can't help it, I already spam him with a million I love you's today

Do you devote yourself more to him than the Lord, by any chance?

Viridus, Dragons Of Power

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North Masonville wrote:Can't help it, I already spam him with a million I love you's today

Lol

Furbish Islands wrote:I'll be waiting for the message that says "And here's Furbish Islands, who says we won't last because he's jealous"

Lmao

Viridus, Gagium, North Masonville

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North Masonville wrote:No I told him I love Jesus above him and he knows that and I don't do anything sinful or engage in it and told him my views, actually I was hoping to show him the love of Jesus Christ and be a loving wife so he could understand. That's why im going to college, so I can get money and fly.

It helps when both people in the relationship are religious :/

Gagium

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