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This server is already cringe. Smh

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power

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Gagium wrote:Look, between you and me and going back to the topic of dating, I’d be trying to sleep right now if my damned sister wasn’t chatting with her boyfriend that she sees enough already-

Irrelevant..okay, let’s see..If we all are “the Church”, how come we all believe in totally different things regarding the Bible and Jesus and God? Yes, God indeed did predestine for Mankind’s creation, and Jesus did indeed die for our sins before they took place, but Man was never predestined to be saved - No, ever since we are the fruit of knowledge we were ordained with the capacity to live out our own lives and choose our own destiny - It is why everyone has different beliefs and why we all have the free will to follow the word of the Lord or not at all.

Your reference of Acts 11:18 is contradictory - You’re bringing up that God had to give the gentiles repentance, correct? Are you saying that they weren’t destined for repentance until God intervened? That defeats the whole purpose of predestination, man.

He granted them the repentance, which means they couldn't repent unless he chose to grant it to them, and once again, Ephesian 1:3-5 clearly shows that he predestined us to be sons of Jesus, which means we are saved. As Jesus said:

No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.

John 6:44 ESV

And he also said

All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.

Matthew 11:27 ESV

So let's see, no one can know Jesus except the Father, and no one can know the Father except Jesus, and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.

This shows unless you are chosen, you'll never know God. Also,

no one understands; no one seeks for God.

Romans 3:11 ESV

So it's clear no one seeks God or can know God unless he is chosen

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, North Masonville

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North Masonville wrote:Good comeback

I sent it precisely when I was predestined to

I like Calvinist jokes

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, North Masonville

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North Masonville wrote:HaH good one! Good one there, I got it....predestined!!! Calvinist! OHhhhhh.

Cheese 🧀

Gagium, Dragons Of Power, North Masonville

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Oh, Gagium, I forgot to show you my Go-Pro footage of when I raided Area 51

https://youtu.be/sNa1gJU3010

Gagium, Dragons Of Power, North Masonville

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Paleoconservative Citizens wrote:He granted them the repentance, which means they couldn't repent unless he chose to grant it to them, and once again, Ephesian 1:3-5 clearly shows that he predestined us to be sons of Jesus, which means we are saved. As Jesus said:

No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.

John 6:44 ESV

And he also said

All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.

Matthew 11:27 ESV

So let's see, no one can know Jesus except the Father, and no one can know the Father except Jesus, and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.

This shows unless you are chosen, you'll never know God. Also,

no one understands; no one seeks for God.

Romans 3:11 ESV

So it's clear no one seeks God or can know God unless he is chosen

Ephesians: Sure, if you interpret us like that - Though I’d disagree with that passage itself in the statement that he created anyone to be “holy and blameless in his sight”, with the exception of the Lord Jesus Christ. “he predestined us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ” doesn’t mean that we were predestined to accept this adoption nor be saved through it, but it rather says that Jesus Christ was destined by God to adopt us as his own through His dying on the cross.

John - But there are plenty of those who did indeed come to him - Thousands, in fact. The use of “draws” in that passage infers present tense or an action being committed rather than one that was predestined to occur - As in, the Lord guides us but the Lord did not choose us to be saved or not to be saved before we existed.

Matthew - Again, the usage of “chooses to reveal him” seems to indicate that the Lord didn’t predestine for anything to occur, but rather it is His choice and in His wisdom to show his ways to those who are faithful to him rather than those who were already chosen. The usage of the word really doesn’t help the case of predestination at all here. You seem to confuse this with predestination and him choosing people before their existence to be chosen, though this text again definitely hints at this being an action that He takes during ones’ lifetime, presumably through faith in the Lord.

Romans - This later states that “there is none that does good”, which certainly and very clearly is a display of God’s ordaining of free will in ourselves rather than predestining a few to be holy and to be saved. Certainly this is impossible if there is none that does purely good, correct?

EDIT: Good night, for now I must slumber..I look forward to continuing this debate though!

Viridus, Dragons Of Power, Paleoconservative Citizens, North Masonville

North Masonville wrote:I have a feeling when you grow up Kobe you’re gonna be this old guy with a beard sitting there with all the answers with little kids coming like “master Kobe tell me about the Bible” and you have this super deep voice and you’re like “please children, turn your pages to page blah blah”

Probably, except I'll prefer to be called

Teacher, and also, I want to play a flute and live in a Hut

Gagium, Dragons Of Power, North Masonville

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Gagium wrote:Ephesians: Sure, if you interpret us like that - Though I’d disagree with that passage itself in the statement that he created anyone to be “holy and blameless in his sight”, with the exception of the Lord Jesus Christ. “he predestined us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ” doesn’t mean that we were predestined to accept this adoption nor be saved through it, but it rather says that Jesus Christ was destined by God to adopt us as his own through His dying on the cross.

John - But there are plenty of those who did indeed come to him - Thousands, in fact. The use of “draws” in that passage infers present tense or an action being committed rather than one that was predestined to occur - As in, the Lord guides us but the Lord did not choose us to be saved or not to be saved before we existed.

Matthew - Again, the usage of “chooses to reveal him” seems to indicate that the Lord didn’t predestine for anything to occur, but rather it is His choice and in His wisdom to show his ways to those who are faithful to him rather than those who were already chosen. The usage of the word really doesn’t help the case of predestination at all here. You seem to confuse this with predestination and him choosing people before their existence to be chosen, though this text again definitely hints at this being an action that He takes during ones’ lifetime, presumably through faith in the Lord.

Romans - This later states that “there is none that does good”, which certainly and very clearly is a display of God’s ordaining of free will in ourselves rather than predestining a few to be holy and to be saved. Certainly this is impossible if there is none that does purely good, correct?

See, we both read the same passages but have different interpretations.

And also your verses didn't convince me much, because I have been from Calvinism to Arminianism before, and I found extreme flaws in it. And as for Ephesians, it clearly says he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him, in love he predestined us to adoption to himself to be sons of Jesus Christ, which states that he predestined US to be adopted, not Jesus dying hoping we would be adopted. And he chose us, Jesus didn't die and hoped the we chose him, he chose us. And as for choosing, no one is born saved, God grants you repentance and faith at a point in your life, if you're chosen, between the time of birth and death, you will have repented

Gagium, Dragons Of Power, North Masonville

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North Masonville wrote:babies are born saved actually. Because a sister in Christ showed me that God showed her what happens and basically they assign someone to be in the soul of the baby forming in the moms womb and you were in Heaven before being born so we are saved if we die as babies and really small children.

Children who were going to die before having knowledge of sin, were chosen.

Gagium, Dragons Of Power, North Masonville

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North Masonville wrote:Kobe are you able to go on Q now Starsky is sad that i'm gone...and i have to wait until tomorrow...

Let me check

Gagium, Dragons Of Power

North Masonville wrote:Kobe are you able to go on Q now Starsky is sad that i'm gone...and i have to wait until tomorrow...

Nope still banned

Gagium, Dragons Of Power

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>.>

<.<

Hi.

Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Paleoconservative Citizens

The Reddington States wrote:>.>

<.<

Hi.

Sup

Gagium, The Reddington States, Dragons Of Power

Looks like something interesting did actually take place in the last few pages, but tbh I skipped a few in trying to catch up from the 200+ posts from my last login. :-P

Viridus, Gagium, The Legion Of Mankind, Dragons Of Power, Mietkael, Paleoconservative Citizens, North Masonville

Paleoconservative Citizens wrote:See, we both read the same passages but have different interpretations.

This is why the Magisterium exists.

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Paleoconservative Citizens

Mietkael wrote:This is why the Magisterium exists.

Still an interpretation

New Waldensia, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Mietkael

Yes, the difference being it becomes a definite interpretation. Preventing (limiting) arguments.

It is easy to say these schisms etc are detrimental to Christendom as a whole.

We waste a lot of time fighting amongst one another.

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Paleoconservative Citizens

Mietkael wrote:Yes, the difference being it becomes a definite interpretation. Preventing (limiting) arguments.

It is easy to say these schisms etc are detrimental to Christendom as a whole.

We waste a lot of time fighting amongst one another.

Y u no quote me

Gagium, Dragons Of Power

My tax rate is 40.9%

*Has a heart attack*

New Waldensia, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Bodovonia-Selo

Paleoconservative Citizens wrote:Y u no quote me

Sorry!

Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Paleoconservative Citizens

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Paleoconservative Citizens wrote:My tax rate is 40.9%

*Has a heart attack*

Mines better.

Viridus, Gagium, Paleoconservative Citizens

Paleoconservative Citizens wrote:My tax rate is 40.9%

*Has a heart attack*

Citizens pay a flat income tax of 72.0%.

Viridus, Gagium, Paleoconservative Citizens

The Reddington States wrote:>.>

<.<

Hi.

Red!!!!!!!!!

Viridus, Gagium, The Reddington States, Bodovonia-Selo

Now we need somebody to unendorse Furbish Islands and Viridus to ensure the transfer of Delegate this turn.

Tesyky, Gagium

Destroy communism!!!! Red detected in Ulrech

Viridus, Gagium

Somehow I managed to get the delegate spot even though Furbish Islands and I have the same amount of endorsements. :ok_hand:

Furbish Islands, Tesyky, Viridus, Gagium, The Legion Of Mankind

New Waldensia wrote:Somehow I managed to get the delegate spot even though Furbish Islands and I have the same amount of endorsements. :ok_hand:

Oof

Viridus, Gagium

Dragons Of Power wrote:When your founder, The Legion Of Mankind, leaves your region, joins yours, runs along side one of the top people in regional elections, that person wins, and he gets power.

Have fun, you all are stuck with him lmao.

Anyways, back to the backcave, you're welcome for the "spam" and "cringe".

You’re cringe

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power

Dragons Of Power wrote:When your founder, The Legion Of Mankind, leaves your region, joins yours, runs along side one of the top people in regional elections, that person wins, and he gets power.

Have fun, you all are stuck with him lmao.

Anyways, back to the backcave, you're welcome for the "spam" and "cringe".

Is this treason talking against your overlords?

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power

After 1 year 356 days, I am delegate once again.

Furbish Islands, Tesyky, Viridus, Gagium, The Legion Of Mankind, Mietkael, Great Ming China, Bodovonia-Selo

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Blueflarst wrote:Maybe a rock have hit me

Maybe i am becoming less paranoid and the others start to be friendly people for me

I will try to be more kind from now

I will start congratulating the new delegate on his reelection, CONGRATULATIONS

Grey Jedi time

Gagium

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North Masonville wrote:and don't look at any boy.

What inclines you to do this?

Viridus, Paleoconservative Citizens

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Women women...

Viridus, Gagium

Would y’all prefer a timeline where the south maintained a peaceful session . Lincoln actually favored letting the south go .

Fort Sumter changed all that .

Or do y’all prefer civil war with Lincoln dead 💀 in 1861 under a assassination and his vv takes over.....

I’m getting off nationstates telegram me please for your polls

Viridus, Gagium, North Masonville

North Masonville wrote:Well I do look at boys or talk but I mean don't look at any guy with lust nor do I flirt nor do I let them flirt, and that's because I told him i'm all his, told mason that.

Oh ok

Paleoconservative Citizens, North Masonville

Blueflarst wrote:when someone tries to calm you down is double suspicious then

True, it’s also a logical fallacy!

Paleoconservative Citizens

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Furbish Islands wrote:>getting off NS

>TG please

???

Yes, when someone logs back onto NS they can still see TGs that were sent when they were offline, or so it goes

New Waldensia, Viridus, North Masonville

Literally took 27 minutes to read all the 160+ posts on the RMB since last night

Furbish Islands, New Waldensia, Dragons Of Power, Mietkael, Paleoconservative Citizens

Viridus wrote:Lofi Jazzhop mix - beats to relax/study to

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vWUHoAGRTHU

Obligatory repost

Polish Prussian Commonwealth, Paleoconservative Citizens

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Furbish Islands wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=36339288#p36339288

Would have been super cool if The Rouge Christmas State had won the whole thing after leaving NS.

Furbish Islands, Viridus, Eldrado, The Legion Of Mankind, Paleoconservative Citizens

Furbish Islands wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=36339288#p36339288

HECC YA BOI

VICTORY

Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado

Furbish Islands wrote:People who picked the last option in the poll, who do you like the most(even though that person's chances of winning are 0%)?

You already know this but . . . Yang/Tulsi

Gagium, Eldrado, Polish Prussian Commonwealth

Liberated American Provinces wrote:You already know this but . . . Yang/Tulsi

This but the other way around.

Liberated American Provinces, Gagium

Viridus wrote:Obligatory repost

nice

Viridus, Gagium

We should have an FCN news rp.

Gagium, The Legion Of Mankind

San Carlos Islands wrote:We should have an FCN news rp.

That's something you can suggest on the RP poll (Which you should fill out if you're reading this): https://forms.gle/4y6igXxsQQkUCDcT9

Viridus, Polish Prussian Commonwealth

San Carlos Islands wrote:We should have an FCN news rp.

That would be nice or we can have an FCN newspaper

If someone does it

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Polish Prussian Commonwealth

San Carlos Islands wrote:We should have an FCN news rp.

Yee

Gagium, The Legion Of Mankind, North Masonville

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Ok

Viridus, Gagium, Paleoconservative Citizens

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North Masonville wrote:it’s so bad the teacher even acted out a porno like he started swaying his hips and going MMMM. I’m done.

Uhm, I think I'd talk to your school district about that if that actually happened :P

Liberals may crusade against anything they think is anti-women, but they'll also crusade against pedophiles..Right? maybe?

Viridus, Dragons Of Power, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, Paleoconservative Citizens, North Masonville

do you think god stays in heaven because he fears us

Viridus, Gagium, The Legion Of Mankind

Polish Prussian Commonwealth wrote:do you think god stays in heaven because he fears us

Tbh I think he’s scared of what he made lmao! He was probably thinking it would be a good idea to have people and him being on spectator mode. Then he would eventually think by like 800s or so it got out of hand and tried making us kill ourselves and bringing plagues and war.

Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Polish Prussian Commonwealth

The Legion Of Mankind wrote:Tbh I think he’s scared of what he made lmao! He was probably thinking it would be a good idea to have people and him being on spectator mode. Then he would eventually think by like 800s or so it got out of hand and tried making us kill ourselves and bringing plagues and war.

okay blasphemer

Viridus, Gagium, Paleoconservative Citizens

Polish Prussian Commonwealth wrote:do you think god stays in heaven because he fears us

Yes, as he should! *t-poses* :dab: :joy: :fire:

Liberated American Provinces, Dragons Of Power, Polish Prussian Commonwealth

Voting on the initial roleplay poll will be wrapped up and closed by midnight EDT, please vote here before then: https://forms.gle/4y6igXxsQQkUCDcT9

Dragons Of Power

Gagium wrote:Yes, as he should! *t-poses* :dab: :joy: :fire:
Polish Prussian Commonwealth wrote:okay blasphemer

Gagium

Gagium wrote:Yes, as he should! *t-poses* :dab: :joy: :fire:

We live in a society

Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, North Masonville

Polish Prussian Commonwealth wrote:do you think god stays in heaven because he fears us

No he stays in heaven because he sees how nasty humans are and refuses to be in their presence

Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, North Masonville

Paleoconservative Citizens wrote:No he stays in heaven because he sees how nasty humans are and refuses to be in their presence

Liberated American Provinces wrote:We live in a society

Liberated American Provinces, Gagium

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Paleoconservative Citizens wrote:No he stays in heaven because he sees how nasty humans are and refuses to be in their presence

Stop projecting your pathetic mortal beliefs on our Father in heaven.

Viridus, Gagium

Furbish Islands wrote:So basically the MT one I was suggesting for a while?

Yes

Gagium

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North Masonville wrote:Can we start group chats here

Yes, it’s called discord

Furbish Islands, New Waldensia, Viridus

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North Masonville wrote:i don’t like doing things without asking him first

That’s probably, like, an issue...Are you sure your relationship with him is healthy if you’re afraid to do stuff without asking him first??

EDIT: I meant our regional discord server though, not necessarily PMs

Liberated American Provinces, Furbish Islands, Viridus

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