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Region: Federation of Conservative Nations
That's what I'm supporting the idea we have alt media with more right wing/centrists views.
Gagium
Or we have media that actually does its job on reporting instead of more biased media intended to manipulate peoples thoughts and ideologies..
But if we can't do that then sure, we can have our "alt media" to make ourselves feel as happy as loyal CNN viewers do when they talk about orange man
Dragons Of Power, Greater Bastion
The book was based tho
Gagium
well what would we do to put a fair and non bised view on the news?
Gagium
But an unbiased news source would be a right-leaning new source!
Gagium, Fluvannia, Dragons Of Power
We need the military to raid every news station, announce "This is not a coup", and then proceed to coup the media and ensure fair news coverage!
That's absolutely correct
Viridus, Dragons Of Power, Greater Bastion
And? We have voices, the pale in strength to the Hollywood brainwashing machine.
Gagium
i agree we just need a place like a tv network,
Gagium
i like that idea, big wig nwo folks would be tricky to counter, but not impossable.
Gagium
This is the political party I'm running fo BTW The Peremptory Party of The S.C.A.
Gagium
I unironically do as well
Gagium
Do not I?
Viridus, Gagium
ironic or clever 🤔
Gagium
Thank you it's very equal and I unironcly love the idea of earned citizenship but all get civil rights.
Otira, Gagium
Very fair sir. I honestly think us on the right can be unified. We may like varying personlitys but in the end we all care FOR THE GREATER GOOD.
Gagium
Exactly. My idea (and by "my" I mean "Heinlein's") is voting being restricted to citizens, citizenship (and the vote) being earned through federal service - not necessarily military - but everyone still having full civil rights otherwise.
Unearned universal suffrage was a mistake, as many nations are learning now. The US is a prime example.
Gagium
Uhhh
Gagium
Neither. I was just bored of arguing
Gagium
You know what I mean, nobody typically goes to YouTube to get their news. I'm talking about Fox, CNN, NBC, etc. as opposed to YouTube/Bitchute
Liberated American Provinces, Gagium
Ok boomer
Viridus, Gagium, Knat
Just interjecting to say that the book and the movie are pretty different. From what I've heard, the movie is against citizenship earned through service, but the original novel was in support of it.
Gagium
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Viridus, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
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You mean BNHA, do you not?*
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
yes, there shouldnt have even been the movie that absolutely butchered the book and flipped around its entire plot and themes
Barry Goldwater The Ghost
The book is really good I've heard it's princeables. Not too shabby ideas.
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Guys there is about to be a new president for the Social Conservative Axis it's probably going to be me
My opponent has 0 votes
I have 7 votes already and the election started 2 hours ago
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Yes we have one, and it's corrupted by neoliberals and war hawks.
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
zoomer ethnostate when
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
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That is true but I choose the poor people not a race or ethnicity. The poor are sickening.
Viridus, Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Howso?
Furbish Islands, New Waldensia, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
They infest the streets of cities, they are lazy because they dont try to get a job, and they bother the rich people by asking for money.
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
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1. Do you live in a city?
2. Have you actually talked to a poor person....?
Furbish Islands, New Waldensia, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
1.I have talked to one(and they were rude)
2.I live in a city
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Well put them to labor for sure
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
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Youve talked to one, thus you now have an irrational hatred of poor people for some reason and want to apply Nazi ideology to them...? Okay
Liberated American Provinces, Furbish Islands, New Waldensia, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
That is true but stories of them and how they dont even try to get a job is aggravating enough
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
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They wouldnt be on the streets if they werent lazy and even planned their lives out
and got a job. Thus meaning that all homeless people are lazy disgusting parasites of society.
Viridus, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Not necessarily. I just want them to get up and get jobs or else they will work in labor fields in my nation.
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
gee it's almost as if increasing automation has thrown most of these people out of a job
I like you. You remind me of myself, back when I was an edgy fascist.
Viridus, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
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Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
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Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Just saying I like you, You have a different mind set than me which means we could learn from each others thoughts on our visions of society.
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Ik what do we do to slove?
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
* This is probably going to sound cold *
Quite a few persons in society lack the motivation to improve their standards, or make excuses for why they cannot improve.
Impoverishment really falls onto the shoulders of the individual, and as a repercussion of all human mental constructs being diverse, poverty will exist.
This does not apply to all homeless, or that they shouldnt receive charitable aid, as I mentioned before, its a case by case situation.
Viridus, Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
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Doesnt have to be publicly owned (most transportation in Sweden and Japan is private), but the construction of projects such as the Keystone Pipeline would provide employment for depressed areas of the American heartland.
Viridus, Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Post by Furbish Islands suppressed by a moderator.
Problem: *exists*
Furby: It can be fixed by a public transit system
Washingtonian Republic, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Greater Bastion
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Ja.
Viridus, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
I like that Furby is proactive.
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Greater Bastion
>Claims to not be that kind of Nazi
>Proceeds to talk like that kind of Nazi
Liberated American Provinces, Furbish Islands, Viridus, Gagium, Ibenta, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Greater Bastion, Mietkael
Uh huh
Furbish Islands, Viridus, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Greater Bastion
Fingers crossed to see if my mercs get hired for a conflict.
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
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Post by Furbish Islands suppressed by a moderator.
Furby will make the trains run on time.
Ecalpa, Liberated American Provinces, New Waldensia, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Greater Bastion, Mietkael
Thanks Furby, very cool!
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Furbish Islands can we make up our differences? do we have peace, no conflicts etc. because I wish to not have arguments with a great allie of my region. I already talked with Gagium and he and I have peace, but do you and I.
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Furby Underwood
Viridus, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
LSU HAS BEATEN ALABAMA
New Waldensia, Viridus, Sergioso, San Carlos Islands, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN
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Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Paleoconservative Citizens
man f-14s were pretty hot ngl
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Ooo
Viridus, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Eldrado, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
[pre]Extra! Extra! Its the 11th Edition of F.C.N. Times![/pre]
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1281131
Liberated American Provinces, Washingtonian Republic, Viridus, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Greater Bastion, Mietkael
sci didn't propose he rmb rules, he actually voted against it
Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Paleoconservative Citizens
I've heard rumors that the notorious Bag Daddy is hiding out in our region
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Paleoconservative Citizens
The debate channel is a mess, so I'll blame my mistakes on that.
Bag, big, beg... whats the difference! He is 'dead', and that's all that matters.
Liberated American Provinces, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Why own up to the mistake?
Behave like MSNBC and blame him for attacking the free press!
;)
Thegoldcoast, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
The flag represented in the second half of the in-depth review of the ADP is the flag of West Phoenicia and not the flag of the ADP.
The ADP chairman is available for any future quotes the newspaper may want from the chair or a parties stance. Or in regards to why we have spoken out against the suggested senate reform. As this article came as a surprise to us. But well written.
If you liked what the article said, please don't hesitate to tg myself if you want to be part of the ADP family.
Viridus, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
My source is Bag Daddy himself ;)
Thegoldcoast, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
See... I really don't know why you and Viridus like things like that... I guess you are obsessed with me or something
Viridus, Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Paleoconservative Citizens
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Hola! Figured I'd introduce myself. Wanted to seek out some like-minded groups and this one caught my eye by far. I'll try to be as active as I can be (which isn't as often as I like) but for now thought I'd simply say hello and buen dia! Look forward to making a home here.
Thegoldcoast, Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Everybody, I'm thinking about a new party. Here's the dispatch. https://www.nationstates.net/nation=gladesville/detail=factbook/id=1281259
Markev, Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Hola Juventini, are you Spanish?
Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Juventini
@The Republic of Knat
By descent and by birth but not by residence I'm afraid. Spanish mother, Portuguese-American father. Only partially fluent in Castillian, read it a lot better than I speak, try to use it when I can. I appreciate the welcome! God bless <3
Viridus, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Sigh...
Viridus, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
On a side note, your region "promotes social conservatism and capitalism." That sounds highly contradictory. In what way has capitalism been especially conducive to socially conservative thoughts and principles? If capitalism has been so good to conservatives, would you then call today's society the pinnacle of social conservatism? I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this, because I have yet to meet one person who can adequately justify fusionism.
I have a strong hunch that you are confused. There is not a clean way of standing on both libertarian and conservative principles. You must choose. You can't have your cake and eat it, too.
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Viridus, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Juventini
When I first joined my region I thought of the same thing. I tried to say that Conservatism especially Social Conservatism is not big supporters of fusionism. Plus I can clearly tell you this stuff which took me an hour of my day to research and study to give you the answer to your question. HOPE YOU ENJOY AND THINK OF MY ANSWER
"Fusionism, the label that stuck to Frank Meyers conservative philosophy, is widely misunderstood. Poor Meyer has suffered the same fate as Richard Weaver, whose Ideas Have Consequences gets invoked all the time by people who havent read it to promote ideas Weaver would have found trivial or worse. What Weaver actually meant might have been clearer if hed called the book Metaphysics Has Consequences, but even the University of Chicago Press didnt want to market a title like that. (In fact, the publisher rejected Weavers preferred title, The Fearful Descent.)
Meyers In Defense of Freedom is if anything even less read than Weavers book. But that doesnt stop fusionism from being used to describe GOP coalition-building and being likened, in Jonah Goldbergs term, to an alloy of two distinct metalslibertarianism and social conservatism. The latter term is anachronistic: traditionalists like Russell Kirk and Brent Bozell Jr. were socially conservative, certainly, but quite philosophically different from todays populist and primarily evangelical social cons. Kirk and Bozell emphatically rejected American exceptionalism, for example, for reasons central to their worldview.
The bigger problem with Goldbergs description, however, is the ideawhich hes not alone in holdingthat Meyer was trying to forge an alloy. Thats exactly what Meyer was not trying to do:rather, he believed that both libertarianism and traditionalism had a common source in the Western tradition. They were not distinct materials; they were the same thing in different shapes, with different emphases. The last essay in the Liberty Fund edition of In Defense of Freedom, Western Civilization: The Problem of Political Freedom, is Meyers deepest exploration of this idea.
Murray Rothbard once argued that at heart Meyer was just a libertarian, but I was struck the last time I read In Defense of Freedom by how much more strongly Meyer draws on Eric Voegelin than on Locke or John Stuart Mill. Im tempted to say that at heart Meyer was a traditionalist, but one who saw the individual conscience as the supreme metaphysical tradition of the West. Meyer perceived this most of all in the Incarnation. Needless to say, this is a world away from some cheap handbook for coalition politics. It wasnt even a rhetorical effort to bring clashing right-wing pundits together. It was an attempt at a philosophy of history and politics. Theres very little discussion of issues in In Defense of Freedom.
Meyer was not merely arguing that traditionalists and libertarians should tolerate one another and cooperate against a common enemy. His contention was that while they could differ in their emphases, a traditionalist had to be libertarian and a libertarian had to be traditionalist, or else each would be abandoning his own foundations. Meyer disliked the fusionism label precisely because it misrepresented his project as hammering together two different materials.Heres the source of the confusion: conservative politics since the 1950s always has been coalition-based. It always has included people who care most about free-market economics or personal liberty alongside people who care most about religious tradition and values. Meyers project superficially had the same pattern as a movement itselfa pattern of contrast and combination alikeso it was easy to mistake Meyers philosophy for a rationale to underpin the coalition. But it was more than that.
The conservative movement had an operational coalition before Meyer set to workhe was already in a functional coalition with the thinkers he contended against, fellow early National Review contributors like Kirk, Bozell, and Whittaker Chambers. Anti-Communism was the coalitions glue. Ideological anti-Communists were the coalitions core; non-ideological anti-Communists were on its periphery; and philosophical conservatives or libertarians who came close to rejecting the Cold War outrightanti-anti-Communists, in other wordswere not part of the coalition at all.
Anti-Communism and anti-liberalism, rather than philosophical fusionism, continued to be the coalitions rationale from Meyers time until today. Meyers book goes unread because movement conservatives think they already know what is says and already have the coalition it prescribes. Meyer did a great deal to build the conservative movement, and he might very well still embrace that movement todaythough most of the long-time fusionists I know are disgusted by the movements present statebut he was aiming higher than party politics. Hes worth reading for that reason.
Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
and plus I'm more neutral on that equation if that can be an answer
Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
I've considered it about time that the FCN gets a green lung.
Gagium, Paleoconservative Citizens
That sounds sort of unhealthy
New Waldensia, Viridus, Greater Bastion, Mietkael, Paleoconservative Citizens, Gladesville
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/mccarthy/what-does-fusionism-really-mean/
You literally copy-pasted an article from The American Conservative and called it your answer. You just plagiarized an entire article. But in any case, this answer, in my view, gets a C.
There's an old satirical piece by Mark Twain about how no one forms their own opinions. People just regurgitate whatever they think sounds best. That's literally what you did here. You regurgitated something that you probably don't fully understand.
So I ask you. Beyond the philosophical nonsense of "your" response, please tell me--given today's conditions--how you can reconcile capitalism with social conservatism.
What does that even mean? What do you mean "more neutral?"
Liberated American Provinces, Furbish Islands, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Polish Prussian Commonwealth, Greater Bastion, Mietkael
im gonna say the n word
Viridus, Gagium, Ibenta
Ibenta DESTROYS and ANNIHALATES FASCISTS with FACTS and LOGIC
Liberated American Provinces, Furbish Islands, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Mietkael
It's good to see an interest in the environment!
Gagium, Gladesville
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Hardly so!
Viridus
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