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Mietkael wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1320299

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Quality content. I quite love this paper.

Viridus, Gagium, Dragonwings, Emerisis, The Sladerstan, Meirshir

Mietkael wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1320299

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THE BEST!!!!!!

Viridus, Gagium, Dragonwings, Meirshir

Mietkael wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1320299

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Aglonia wrote:Quality content. I quite love this paper.

Emerisis wrote:THE BEST!!!!!!

Thanks guys :D

Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Dragonwings

We must resist the authoritarian attempt to prevent you from losing your vote! The senate is attempting to make presidential elections only on the discord! This is simply an attempt to seize power by a specific group who will remain I will not name, we need to resist this attempt by the senate to seize control of the government!

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium

The Clone Republic wrote:We must resist the authoritarian attempt to prevent you from losing your vote! The senate is attempting to make presidential elections only on the discord! This is simply an attempt to seize power by a specific group who will remain I will not name, we need to resist this attempt by the senate to seize control of the government!

It's not.

Gagium, Ibenta, Dragonwings, Mietkael

The Clone Republic wrote:We must resist the authoritarian attempt to prevent you from losing your vote! The senate is attempting to make presidential elections only on the discord! This is simply an attempt to seize power by a specific group who will remain I will not name, we need to resist this attempt by the senate to seize control of the government!

How long does it take to create a Discord? 5 seconds?

If you aren’t willing to put five seconds into making a Discord you shouldn’t be voting

Ulrech, Gagium, Ibenta, Dragonwings, Mietkael

F U C K

Gagium, Dragonwings, Emerisis, The Sladerstan

Baptists: I can't stand those Catholics trying to tell us how to interpret the Bible!

Also Baptists: Make sure your interpretation fits within what we think the Bible says.

Gagium

The Sladerstan wrote:Baptists: I can't stand those Catholics trying to tell us how to interpret the Bible!

Also Baptists: Make sure your interpretation fits within what we think the Bible says.

Its because there is many ways to interpret the Bible.

Gagium, The Sladerstan

Also. This religious poll is cool! We have Pagans and Shintoists in the region. It is so awesome to see that variety!

Gagium, The Sladerstan

Aglonia wrote:Its because there is many ways to interpret the Bible.

How about doing what Lutherans do, and let Scripture speak for itself? I mean, most denominations basically adjust the text to fit the conclusion they already had. Lutherans let the text speak.

In other words, other denominations cherry pick verses to fit what they think it says, Lutherans simply let scripture say what scripture says.

Gagium

The Sladerstan wrote:How about doing what Lutherans do, and let Scripture speak for itself? I mean, most denominations basically adjust the text to fit the conclusion they already had. Lutherans let the text speak.

In other words, other denominations cherry pick verses to fit what they think it says, Lutherans simply let scripture say what scripture says.

And then interpret it into Doctrines and practical applications.

Gagium, The Sladerstan

The Sladerstan wrote:Sorry we only have potatoes

nooooooooooo!!!!!!

Gagium, The Sladerstan

I rise in adamant opposition to Constitutional Amendment 11-24. This measure is a radical overthrow of the democratic system that has always characterized the Federation of Conservative Nations.

I agree with the sentiment that the Senate Speaker should be elected by Senators alone. The Senate rejected an amendment to CA-11-24 that would have put that change into the bill.

I firmly disagree with removing the entire election system to Discord and away from NationStates. This is an overreaction, quite frankly, to one faction's loss in a legitimately held election. As a result, one side is resulting to extreme measures to ensure that doesn't happen again. This is a decidedly wrong approach.

The FCN is more than just the Discord server. The Discord server is an addition to the region, but it is not the region itself. In fact, the Discord server, while it has enriched our region, it has also caused - at times - detrimental effects to our reputation.

Removing the entire election system to Discord does a disservice to the FCN. Rather than allowing more recent electoral reforms to be tested and tried in regular fashion, this Amendment seeks to impose an oligarchical control on how government officials are chosen.

I speak this as someone who has served in office, been a part of the Discord server since its creation, and participated in joint efforts with many of those promoting this Amendment.

It is my sincere hope that the Senate backs away from this precipitous and ill-advised revolution.

Senator New Waldensia

Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Gagium, West Phoenicia, The Clone Republic, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Sladerstan

Aglonia wrote:Also. This religious poll is cool! We have Pagans and Shintoists in the region. It is so awesome to see that variety!

We also have a resident Druze (Baconstate).

Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Sladerstan

You gotta be kidding me

Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Sladerstan

Dragons Of Power wrote:You gotta be kidding me

Stay for a bit longer, comrade..

Dragons Of Power, The Sladerstan

Gagium wrote:Stay for a bit longer, comrade..

So much for my coup.....

Gagium

New Waldensia wrote:We also have a resident Druze (Baconstate).

I was accidentally discriminatory.

Gagium, The Sladerstan

Unfortunate I think my opposition to this bill is wasted none of the Non discorders care so that’s great

Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Aglonia

Can we please keep senate ordeals within the senate and not post essays for no reason

Gagium, Greater Bastion, Aglonia

Did someone say c o m r a d e?

Gagium

Emerisis wrote:Can we please keep senate ordeals within the senate and not post essays for no reason

No, these people deserve to know what the hell is going on in the fcn senate, they impact them.

Don't be so afraid of feedback and transparency.

Liberated American Provinces, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium

Knat wrote:Did someone say c o m r a d e?

Da.

Gagium

Emerisis wrote:Can we please keep senate ordeals within the senate and not post essays for no reason

Then I'm good, because I didn't do it for no reason!

Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Gagium, West Phoenicia, Holy Rhinish Islands

The Legion Of Mankind wrote:Da.

ДАВАЙ ТОВАРИЩЩЩЩЩЩЩЩ

Gagium

You are not actively telling them anything, though!

Tell them what the bill is and what it does, tell them we are still voting on it.

Gagium, Fluvannia, The Sladerstan

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:No, these people deserve to know what the hell is going on in the fcn senate, they impact them.

Don't be so afraid of feedback and transparency.

There is no reason to randomly post about a bill we are still voting on when only senators within the Discord can vote and have in depth debate about it with the addition of full context. Also the SS dispatches exist so they'll know eventually anyway.

Gagium, Fluvannia, Greater Bastion

Emerisis wrote:There is no reason to randomly post about a bill we are still voting on when only senators within the Discord can vote and have in depth debate about it with the addition of full context. Also the SS dispatches exist so they'll know eventually anyway.

There is, voter education.

You complain about voters being uneducated and you uneducate them further! Posting results of bills to the SeNaTe SpEaKeR dIsPaTcH doesn't work, voters need to see who their candidates are, and their voting history in the FCN Senate! Otherwise they are just plain ignorant and, as CA-11-24 states, APATHY.

CA-11-24 attacks a valid concern, voter apathy, but it does it in the wrong fashion in my opinion. CA-11-24 limits voter's rights, while what we SHOULD be doing is educating the voters about the candidates via voting logs. If it helps tomorrow I shall dedicate most, if not all, of the day to logging down the votes of all senators since SB-11-01.

Liberated American Provinces, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, The Legion Of Mankind, The Sladerstan

Following new legislation in The Sladerstan, cults that offer eternal life after death to those who follow a self-sacrificing saviour are frowned upon.

Idk man sounds kinda like Christianity to me

Gagium, Emerisis, Aglonia

I accidentally legalized slavery in my nation, does anyone know if you can reverse that like the metric system one?

Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Sladerstan

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1320578

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Knat

Thank you kindly for those nice words at the bottom there Rhiney

Viridus, Gagium, The Legion Of Mankind, Holy Rhinish Islands

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1320578

Just to clarify: Voter Apathy is bad, but narrowing down the voting field is the wrong course of action. We need to educate voters and residents, not exclude them.

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium

Well besides all the drama how're we all doin' today?

Gagium

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:Just to clarify: Voter Apathy is bad, but narrowing down the voting field is the wrong course of action. We need to educate voters and residents, not exclude them.

I personally think that we should’ve ran an election with the registration bill that was specifically passed to combat this issue before going onto these reforms, but eh.

New Waldensia, Viridus, The Legion Of Mankind, Holy Rhinish Islands

Knat wrote:Well besides all the drama how're we all doin' today?

Don’t know why you’re bothering to post on the RMB

Gagium, Knat

Knat wrote:I accidentally legalized slavery in my nation, does anyone know if you can reverse that like the metric system one?

I applaud your newfound enlightenment

Viridus, Emerisis, Knat, The Sladerstan

I can assure everyone here, if the bill passes, as the Secretary of Interior I will do my best to make sure that all people who wish to actively participate in the region are able to.

Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Ibenta, Greater Bastion, Mietkael, Knat

Viridus wrote:Don’t know why you’re bothering to post on the RMB

'Cause I'm bored comrade, why the attitude?

Gagium, The Sladerstan

Gagium wrote:I applaud your newfound enlightenment

I appreciate you

Gagium

Rhiney please chill out

Gagium, Fluvannia, Greater Bastion, Knat, Logon

God bless Johnny Cash

Gagium, Fluvannia, Emerisis

Emerisis wrote:Rhiney please chill out

No, the people deserve to know! You claim to support ridding of voter apathy, yet here you are increasing it!

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Knat

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:No, the people deserve to know! You claim to support ridding of voter apathy, yet here you are increasing it!

Rhiney the people always have the opportunity to seize the initiative and join the Discord. Nothing is stopping them. Besides, how are you even helping them?

Gagium, Emerisis

The fact no non-discord user has responded to this conversation is telling

Gagium, Fluvannia, Knat, Logon, The Sladerstan

Aglonia wrote:The fact no non-discord user has responded to this conversation is telling

It’s literally midnight EST, I commend them for actually having regular sleep schedules

Viridus, Fluvannia, Holy Rhinish Islands, Knat, The Sladerstan

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1320578

Gagium added to list of people who care for the region.

Viridus, Gagium, Knat

I Got the Issue "The issue with issues"

Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Holy Rhinish Islands, Knat

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:Gagium added to list of people who care for the region.

Amazing how one little click can bring you from being Hitler to Jesus in Rhiney's eyes.

Gagium, Knat, Logon, The Sladerstan

Gagium wrote:It’s literally midnight EST, I commend them for actually having regular sleep schedules

I sleep at 4-5 AM dude

Viridus, Gagium, Knat, Logon

The Sladerstan wrote:I sleep at 4-5 AM dude

I don’t commend you then

Viridus, Fluvannia, Knat, The Sladerstan

Gagium wrote:I don’t commend you then

I normally fall asleep around nine but on a night of such occasion as this I cannot contain myself

Gagium, The Sladerstan

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:Gagium added to list of people who care for the region.

A list of who does and does not care for the region?

As this partisan attack comes from a disgraced president who resigned amidst one of the worst scandals of this region, I'll gladly take it as a compliment that I supposedly do not care for the Federation.

Gagium, Fluvannia, Mietkael, Emerisis, Knat, Logon, Aglonia

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:Just to clarify: Voter Apathy is bad, but narrowing down the voting field is the wrong course of action. We need to educate voters and residents, not exclude them.

Two very simple reasons for why the entire case of CA-11-24's opposition falls apart:

> Ignores that the Constitution does not guarantee a right to vote. (It only offers the privilege to vote, given active participation on all parts of this region.)

> Calls CA-11-24 an exclusionary effort when literally anyone can get a Discord and thereby qualify to vote.

Gagium, Fluvannia, Mietkael, Knat, Logon

Knat wrote:I normally fall asleep around nine but on a night of such occasion as this I cannot contain myself

69 minutes ago

Gagium, Knat, Meirshir

Ibenta wrote:

> Calls CA-11-24 an exclusionary effort when literally anyone can get a Discord and thereby qualify to vote.

For the record, Discord is blocked on my computer by my parents. Just one voice, but I want to let it be known not "literally anyone" can get on Discord.

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Sladerstan

Suribachi wrote:For the record, Discord is blocked on my computer by my parents. Just one voice, but I want to let it be known not "literally anyone" can get on Discord.

bUt YoU dOn'T cOuNt ApPaReNtLy

Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Sladerstan, Noeah

I like noooooodles

Viridus, Gagium, Knat

Noeah wrote:I like noooooodles

wanna try my noodle?

Viridus, Gagium, Knat

Gagium wrote:Thanks guys :D

I like it too... surprisingly!

Gagium, Knat

Fluvannia wrote:Amazing how one little click can bring you from being Hitler to Jesus in Rhiney's eyes.

He wasn't hitler, he was in the middle of the aisle. :|

Viridus, Gagium, Knat

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:He wasn't hitler, he was in the middle of the aisle. :|

Only we're Hitler Fluvannia, but don't worry you can still change that if you change your vote

Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:He wasn't hitler, he was in the middle of the aisle. :|

I am hitler

Knat

Fluvannia wrote:Amazing how one little click can bring you from being Hitler to Jesus in Rhiney's eyes.

It's breathtaking how some people are taking said one little click amazingly seriously and almost personally tbh

Viridus, Knat, Meirshir

Suribachi wrote:For the record, Discord is blocked on my computer by my parents. Just one voice, but I want to let it be known not "literally anyone" can get on Discord.

TG me fam I might be able to help with bypassing that

Gagium, Knat, Logon, Meirshir

Suribachi wrote:For the record, Discord is blocked on my computer by my parents. Just one voice, but I want to let it be known not "literally anyone" can get on Discord.

This is a legitimate reason to not have Discord.

New Waldensia, Gagium, Emerisis, Knat, Logon

Aglonia wrote:This is a legitimate reason to not have Discord.

copter parents are a pain.

Viridus, Gagium, Emerisis, Knat, Logon, Meirshir

Aglonia wrote:This is a legitimate reason to not have Discord.

Exactly. Which is why I’m willing to work to create a method for those legitimately unable to get Discord to still be able to vote

Gagium, Emerisis, Knat, Aglonia

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1320578

Updated. Vote ends in around 40 minutes.

Viridus, Gagium, Knat

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:Updated. Vote ends in around 40 minutes.

Apparently I'm running for office?

"Even New Waldensia, the favorite to win the election, is against the amendment at vote for the very reasons listed in this dispatch."

Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Knat

New Waldensia wrote:Apparently I'm running for office?

"Even New Waldensia, the favorite to win the election, is against the amendment at vote for the very reasons listed in this dispatch."

Ex-favorite, I should say.

Viridus, Gagium, Knat

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:Ex-favorite, I should say.

The election results say different about him being a favorite

New Waldensia, Viridus, Mietkael, Holy Rhinish Islands, Knat

Baconstate wrote:copter parents are a pain.

LOL. I've also heard them referred to as lawnmower parents.

Gagium, Knat, Baconstate, Meirshir

Gagium wrote:The election results say different about him being a favorite

Debate Polls. :shrug: things change on election day, these elections are the proving point.

Viridus, Gagium, Knat

Gagium wrote:The election results say different about him being a favorite

This was true. Very true.

Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Knat

New Waldensia wrote:LOL. I've also heard them referred to as lawnmower parents.

Helicopter because they hover over you.

Viridus, Gagium, Knat

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:Debate Polls. :shrug: things change on election day, these elections are the proving point.

Because random people come out of the woodworks who never touch this region any other day?

Gagium, Fluvannia, Knat

Aglonia wrote:Because random people come out of the woodworks who never touch this region any other day?

They deserve to vote, they are the very people that make this region the best and biggest conservative region on NS.

They aren't random, they ARE the region.

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Knat

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:They deserve to vote, they are the very people that make this region the best and biggest conservative region on NS.

They aren't random, they ARE the region.

They really aren't the region as they contribute nothing to it other than a vote every three months (which in itself is hella suss, especially when they don't turn out for other polls). Stop it with the populist bs.

Gagium, Fluvannia, Ibenta, Mietkael, Emerisis, Knat, Logon, Meirshir

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:They deserve to vote, they are the very people that make this region the best and biggest conservative region on NS.

They aren't random, they ARE the region.

They are the region*

*= Unless they happen to be involved in regional politics because that’s literally all on Discord.

Gagium, Fluvannia, Knat, Meirshir

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:They deserve to vote, they are the very people that make this region the best and biggest conservative region on NS.

They aren't random, they ARE the region.

We have 90 members of the WA

Only 42 have endorsed our WA delegate. They are not contributing and in fact are breaking the law as I understand it.

Gagium, Fluvannia, Knat, Logon, Meirshir

San Carlos Islands wrote:They really aren't the region as they contribute nothing to it other than a vote every three months (which in itself is hella suss, especially when they don't turn out for other polls). Stop it with the populist bs.

They log in and answer issues, they contribute to the region's culture, they vote on WA Proposals. The region is more than just the 10% of us on discord, it's that AND the 90% on nationstates.

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Knat, Democratic Federation Party

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:They log in and answer issues, they contribute to the region's culture, they vote on WA Proposals. The region is more than just the 10% of us on discord, it's that AND the 90% on nationstates.

Logging in and answering issues contributes relatively nothing to our region besides a little trophy.

Them not touching our region contributes nothing to our culture.

Them voting on WA proposals means next to nothing if they don't endorse the WA delegate.

Gagium, Fluvannia, Knat

Logon wrote:They are the region*

*= Unless they happen to be involved in regional politics because that’s literally all on Discord.

And that's the bad thing, not that they are on NS, but that we are on Discord. We aren't a DISCORD region, we are a NATIONSTATES region. People are forgetting that as each day passes more and more.

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Knat, The Sladerstan

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:They log in and answer issues, they contribute to the region's culture, they vote on WA Proposals. The region is more than just the 10% of us on discord, it's that AND the 90% on nationstates.

>Most are inactive or answer issues every two weeks.

>They contribute nothing to our culture. Were is the debate, the art coming from all these people? Why don't the show up to game nights and the roleplay?

>Only 1/3 of the region constantly votes on proposals

It is the 10% discord. If you can't see that, you're blind.

Gagium, Emerisis, Knat, Logon

Aglonia wrote:Logging in and answering issues contributes relatively nothing to our region besides a little trophy.

Them not touching our region contributes nothing to our culture.

Them voting on WA proposals means next to nothing if they don't endorse the WA delegate.

They give us the status of the largest, and best, Conservative region on NationStates. You HAVE to understand that.

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Knat

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:They give us the status of the largest, and best, Conservative region on NationStates. You HAVE to understand that.

They don't. They mean nothing. Even if they wanted to have a say, it takes 5 seconds to join the discord.

Gagium, Fluvannia, Mietkael, Knat, Logon

San Carlos Islands wrote:They don't. They mean nothing. Even if they wanted to have a say, it takes 5 seconds to join the discord.

iT tAkEs FiVe SeCoNdS tO JoIn ThE dIsCoRd

It takes five seconds to vote on an RMB poll.

Your point?

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Knat, The Sladerstan

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:iT tAkEs FiVe SeCoNdS tO JoIn ThE dIsCoRd

It takes five seconds to vote on an RMB poll.

Your point?

And yet some people still couldn't do that when I made the poll about Discord.

Gagium, Fluvannia, Mietkael, Knat

Aglonia wrote:And yet some people still couldn't do that when I made the poll about Discord.

You can't compare a poll that had no advertising against a poll that has advertising by multiple people for one or two weeks leading up to it.

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Knat

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:You can't compare a poll that had no advertising against a poll that has advertising by multiple people for one or two weeks leading up to it.

Your right, one the inactive people can prepare to vote on. The other, only the active people see and vote for.

Gagium, Fluvannia, Knat

Aglonia wrote:Your right, one the inactive people can prepare to vote on. The other, only the active people see and vote for.

TIL Waldy is inactive.

New Waldensia, Gagium, Knat

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:They log in and answer issues, they contribute to the region's culture, they vote on WA Proposals. The region is more than just the 10% of us on discord, it's that AND the 90% on nationstates.

90% of the "culture" is produced on discord. From what I understand, most of the culture-related bills were aimed at art, which is submitted on the discord.

I could go on, but I'm on a phone so I won't. I'll just say: Stop with the populist bs

Gagium, Emerisis, Knat, Logon, Aglonia

Meirshir wrote:Stop with the populist bs

The Senate is meant to protect the people, not to take their fundamental logical rights as a resident away.

Oh wait this is the guy that tried to give the region to the LCN, I can take this with a grain of salt.

Aren't you banned anyway?

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Knat

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:Updated. Vote ends in around 40 minutes.

Motion fails, will of the people prevail.

Viridus, Gagium, Knat

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:Motion fails, will of the people prevail.

The will of a people who didn’t even know they had a will...

Gagium, Knat, Meirshir

Imagine thinking that some guy who logs on once every three weeks to answer an issue is just as qualified to vote as an active member of the Discord

Gagium, Knat, Meirshir

Logon wrote:Imagine thinking that some guy who logs on once every three weeks to answer an issue is just as qualified to vote as an active member of the Discord

That's..what democracy is, yes.."qualified to vote"

Viridus, Holy Rhinish Islands, Knat, The Sladerstan

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:The Senate is meant to protect the people, not to take their fundamental logical rights as a resident away.

Oh wait this is the guy that tried to give the region to the LCN, I can take this with a grain of salt.

Aren't you banned anyway?

The senate is meant to make decisions. In the US, as I understand it, the senators vote in the senate, correct? That's the point of senators. Unless you literally want a peculiar form of anarchy (it probably has a name I don't know), how about we keep the senators - and senators only - to the senate?

Secondly, even Quebecshire mentioned in his recent post about me that I lied to him. Funny that he calls us obsessed...

Lastly, I'm not banned - yet. At least I'm not banned by legal terms, anyway.

Gagium, Knat

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