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Region: Federation of Conservative Nations
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Ic Confederate Farmers consul the second in command airs on the radio 📻,but not on television .
It has been confirmed Queen Valerie has cancer and she may of course possibly die.
Doctors have yet to discover what cancer she specifically has . The executive of sisters will be taking time off to spending time together as a family to be with there mother during her last days on earth. May God be with her and may God be with us all . Consul has also aunnced law enforcement has been given more powers to arrest people as a result crime has lowered and is now at 1.55%
Gagium
What do you mean?
Gagium
C'est quoi?
Gagium
Straight people can get AIDS . . .
Gagium, Libernovusamericae, Horde Occupation Zone
i am just waiting for someone to make a puppet of my nation
Gagium, Eldrado
Same bro... If anything, Ive been waiting for longer...
Gagium
Cool
Eldrado
MATH
Gagium
New poll in Zentari. Come and Vote!
https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=142756
Viridus, Gagium
Well heres the thing, this is a nation to communicate with yall since my main is in a region with no embassies. Im not sure if I can under your law.
Gagium
You guys were doing some defending in Warzone Sandbox?
Gagium
HA those cringey Soviet. Apologigists got raided!
Confederate Farmers, Gagium
Who?
Gagium
https://www.nationstates.net/region=soviet_union_2
Gagium
Ah
Gagium
Eww, it's the sOwOy-eating neOwOcOwOnsewvatives.
I hOwOpe OwOswawd MOwOswey bweaks yOwOUwUw nOwOses in the aftewwife.
Liberated American Provinces, Gagium, Earth-Kebabistan, Gorefield, Horde Occupation Zone
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1210396 Vote in poll above (Creating it now!)
Creeperopolis, Viridus, Gagium
HECK YEAH WE GOT EMBASSIES!
SMALL GOBIERNO FOR LYFE!
Gagium, Rivine
Vote for D or else
Viridus, Gagium
Thank you FFF. Very cool!
Viridus, Gagium
I took Furry Language as an elective in school so I can understand what he's saying.
However, I will have to keep the meaning secret in order to stop your lungs from imploding.
Liberated American Provinces, Gagium
Wait. You're him
Earth-Kebabistan
Gagium
I'm going to severely redpill you cringe normie retards.
Btw I'm Barry G, not a spy.
Liberated American Provinces, Gagium
I confirm this.
Liberated American Provinces, Gagium
Thanks for the welcome Confederate! I'm going to try and learn about Christianity more as well. The world will be a much better place when people understand each other and I appreciate this gesture from you.
About the factbook, I was searching for stuff and found this website: https://www.nationalpriorities.org/. It's a website about national debt, I haven't come to a conclusion on how unbiased it is yet, but I found an infographic which would fit in well with explaining debt: https://media.nationalpriorities.org/uploads/debt_definition_5.15.15.png. It explains deficits, surpluses, and federal debt and seems like a good addition to the lawbook.
Confederate Farmers, Gagium
I'm not supporting a guy who is against reforming civil asset forfeiture, which makes it possible for the government to seize property without a criminal conviction or sufficient due process.
Trump invites sheriff to 'destroy' Texas state lawmaker who opposes asset forfeiture: https://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/trump-sheriff-asset-forfeiture-texas-234740
Some hideous abuses of the practice: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/08/12/taken
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
This.
We need some Democrats back in office. Conservative and moderate, preferably, like Tulsi Gabbard or Uncle Joe.
Caezar, Gagium, Libernovusamericae, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Never thought I'd hear that here.
Liberated American Provinces, Gagium, Captian Lard, New Fcn Algerstonia
Conservative doesn't have to mean Republican. When Republicans put money and religion ahead of justice, the constitution or the rights of people, then it is our duty to vote alternatives.
Caezar, Gagium, Libernovusamericae, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Unfortunately the current civil asset forfeiture system is necessary due to the drug crisis etc. It takes unnecessarily long to convict those who are guilty and get a verdict without using asset forfeiture. There's not really any way to prevent abuses such as the one mentioned in that article (Including reforming), and the current system is the best bet we have at fighting the drug crisis.
Viridus, Libernovusamericae, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
http://splix.io/#team-bHyqP
Everyone join my team on splix.io
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
It is better to let the guilty go than punish the innocent. Also, much of the drug crisis was caused by drug prohibition to begin with. We've been cracking down on drugs for decades, and it is obviously not working. Also, there is a way to adequately reform asset forfeiture and that is by making the government have the burden of proof, and not the property owner. Unless you think we should have a justice system that has people declared guilty until proven innocent.
Edit: Also, we should legalize most drugs anyway. Weed should not be illegal.
New Avalon, Liberated American Provinces, New Waldensia, Gagium, Tareldar, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Furthermore, don't let police have the seized money. That incentives abuse.
New Avalon, New Waldensia, Gagium, Tareldar, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
I agree with this all.
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Punished innocents don't kill people, guilty who are let go do. Was meaning cocaine rather than weed when I talked about the drug crisis, though.
And again, unfortunately civil asset forfeiture is quicker to punish or seize drugs from those who are more or less found guilty in every aspect except through court. Making the government have burden of proof doesn't mean that it'll prevent incidents like the one mentioned in your second article, though: They might just abuse or completely bypass the system anyways.
Viridus, Dragons Of Power, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Not all guilty people kill. There are other criminals other than those who murder, and forfeiture of this type won't stop murder anyway. Also, even if abuse is inevitable, we should still initiate enough reforms to make it as hard to abuse as possible. We don't abolish certain standards of proof in our criminal justice system just because "who cares, abuse will happen anyway," and the same standard should apply here.
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
"Not all guilty people kill" My point for civil forfeiture largely involves the drug crisis, drugs do kill. Though while obviously not all guilty people kill, really no 'innocent' does.
When abuse will happen either way though, with the current system at least it's as efficient as possible in stopping people possessing illegal drugs etc, while you have to wait to get a guilty verdict (And go through the process of getting them to court, if possible) as well.
Another point though: If abused though, the victim can go to the courts or file a lawsuit, no? Since without asset forfeiture, you'd have to go through the courts either way.
Viridus, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Oofe
Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, New Fcn Algerstonia
Putting money ahead of constitution or rights is generally something that applies to modern US politicians in general. It's hardly Republican or Democrat-specific, though one could argue that the Democrats do that more often (Or even vice versa)..
Creeperopolis, Confederate Farmers, Viridus, Libernovusamericae, The Legion Of Mankind, Dragons Of Power, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
:fire:
Gagium, The Legion Of Mankind, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, New Fcn Algerstonia
1. Few civil forfeiture cases are against powerful drug cartels or powerful entities. That's in one of my sources. The idea that this is mainly fighting power needs to die.
2. Sometimes a system that is "efficient" is too efficient in depriving others of their property rights. This mostly ain't crackheads having their drugs seized; its police officers snooping around looking for money to pay for bonuses. More powers to police does not by definition mean more safety; in this case it just changes who the thief is. Also, you have no proof that no type of reform will significantly curb abuse.
3. In that lawsuit you have to prove not only your innocence, but that you were not negligent. It's hard enough even if you have the funds to pay for a lawyer, and impossible to fight if you don't. The protections are more than lacking.
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
UPVOTE SQUAD!
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=barry_goldwater_the_ghost/detail=factbook/id=1211765
Gagium, New Fcn Algerstonia
>Sees article 3
Nah.
Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Yes they can .. proustuttes,Druggies 💉, sexual immoral people. Bad needles, bad blood
Bad influences,
Well I 100% dont have to worry. I am a Virgin till marriage where we will have kids
As for blood transfusions I live in a 1st would nationstate 🇺🇸
https://slate.com/human-interest/2017/01/stds-are-on-the-rise-among-gay-and-bi-men.html
Look I wont stop you for doing your thing.
Viridus, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, New Fcn Algerstonia
I support everything in that Constitution thats written in bold text.
Confederate Farmers, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Who is "most corrupt" is irreverent, and partisan divides only make it easier to prevent reform. What better way to win is to divide and conquer, by making members of both parties so unlikely to work together that they no longer pose a threat to corrupt elites.
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Yes
Creeperopolis, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Then punish them for the crimes they commit, not the crimes we can't prove they committed. A free land doesn't operate under thoughtcrime, guilty until proven innocent, or other tyrannical systems. And if you punish the innocent, you are literally a tyrant, and you give the innocent motive and method to in turn become criminals either out of desperation of your tyranny or in revenge.
Viridus, Gagium, Libernovusamericae, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, New Fcn Algerstonia
Im gonna go make a better one
Creeperopolis, Confederate Farmers, Viridus, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Jakobly, New Fcn Algerstonia
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1211772
New and improved.
Creeperopolis, Gagium, The Legion Of Mankind, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Jakobly, New Fcn Algerstonia
Unless Big Brother says otherwise.
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Jakobly
Ooc yall get to decide which cancer ♋️ from E cigs and hookahs that Queen Valerie gets to have!
What will your choice be?
I have already diagnosed her so she must have cancer.
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Jakobly, New Fcn Algerstonia
5/10, needs more 🇫🇮
Creeperopolis, Gagium, The Legion Of Mankind, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Jakobly
Ok well if you think youre so good at judging mine, why dont you make one?
Creeperopolis, Confederate Farmers, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Jakobly, New Fcn Algerstonia
Doubleplusgood.
I will say the fringes of the Dems remind me of the Party from 1984, always working to rewrite history to fit the narrative they think it should. America was founded by evil white racist slave owners, so to fight this systemic bigotry we need racial quotas and other nonsense.
Every day it feels like a second civil war is more inevitable.
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Jakobly, New Fcn Algerstonia
Was arguing that out of 'It is better to let the guilty go than punish the innocent', preventing the guilty from ending the lives of innocents is more necessary than preventing accidental punishment of innocents (That won't end in lives lost). I'm not saying that either is a good thing, and I'm certainly not saying anything comparable to "thoughtcrime" or that we SHOULD intentionally try to punish innocent people.
"you give the innocent motive and method to in turn become criminals either out of desperation" Depends on the situation, though like I said, abuse WILL happen despite the situation. Speaking of the situation, that's the factor in whether an innocent decides to become a criminal or not, not "If you decide to make sure guilty are punished but a few innocents may accidentally be 'punished' as well, they'll all become criminals etc"
Does what I'm trying to say make sense?
New Avalon, Viridus, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Jakobly
It took a rereading, but I do understand what you're trying to say. It's a protective stance, rather statist, and just not one I agree with. Slippery slope to tyranny and all that. I'd rather live with freedom and risk than live in a tyranny with risk.
Gagium, Libernovusamericae, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Jakobly
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MF7ql39_ufY
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Jakobly
This ^^ Also the idea that there will always be abuse so there is no point in reforming to reduce abuse is a ridiculous argument as well. Less cases of abuse - while not a perfect outcome - is better than more cases of abuse.
I'm also sure that people who oppose all reform will sing a different tune when they or their loved ones get whacked by it.
New Waldensia, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Jakobly
Oswald mosley will not break me, I will break the neck if he attacks after we epicly destroys the liberals.
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Jakobly
You want STAALIN in guvmint. You are crazy! Take this commie away.
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Jakobly
Big brother will be big bernie pretty soon unless TRUMP takes a win li k Reagan did.
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Jakobly, New Fcn Algerstonia
It no longer exists, fools.
Viridus, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Jakobly
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1211697
TOOK ME FOUR HOURS TO MAKE!!!
Viridus, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Jakobly
DDDDDDDDDDDD!!!,,,!!!!!! ITS THE BEST FLAG XD
Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Jakobly, New Fcn Algerstonia
So theres a new movie with Godzilla or something...
Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Jakobly, New Fcn Algerstonia
Whoop-dee-doop guys!!! I won the gold in 200 fly!!! (Not that anyone here really cares other than maybe New Gandor and The Rouge Christmas State...)
The Rouge Christmas State, New Waldensia, Viridus, New Gandor, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Jakobly
Bruh. You just agreed with me
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Jakobly
Dear FCN members,
Most of you know what happened earlier. I got into an argument with Doge Republics over me choosing The Sentic as CP Vice Chairman. I will admit that I went too far, and I apologize to anyone affected by this. I will use this experience to be a better Chairman, being more mature rather than "incompetent" (as Doge put it). As of now, The Sentic will remain Vice Chairman.
-Jakobly
New Waldensia, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Flag voting is tied....
Viridus, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Well, at least is it all over.
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
That is no longer the case.
Viridus, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
People voting for D because they want the D are like:
Dragons Of Power, Kordorith, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, New Fcn Algerstonia
Well if people stuck with their hertosexual marriage there would be significantly less STDs
STDS. May I ask you this? What is marriage to you in your opinion? You see to me its a relgouis covenant. Thats why I am strongly for Goverment getting their hands off marriage and giving it back to God by allowing churchs and other relgouis institutions to define it .
States may issue Civil unions or domestic partnerships.
And if you choose to marry you may do it like at the LGBT bars or their clubs . Or at the Unitarian cult .
https://www.livescience.com/34018-people-stop-gay.html
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
That was anti-climatic..
Viridus, Kordorith, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Jakobly
Slate is liberal propaganda...
Confederate Farmers, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Jakobly
Yeah, I kinda wanted to see a CP civil war, that would make a great movie.
Gagium is lightning fast at loving posts, my gosh.
Viridus, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Jakobly
yup
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
good thing it didn't happen
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
YES! THERE IS!!!! I love Godzilla btw.....
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Jakobly, Horde Occupation Zone
Well at least my political party is stable.
Only because I am the only one in it ;(
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Jakobly
RIP
Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Jakobly
Well, I am going to actually make it easier to sign up to my political party FOR ONCE.
My old system was useless and stuff.
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Well then its something then. Because the left culture is 100% pro homosexuality libertarian culture force to some extent is . Medical statistics say other wise https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3575167/
https://www.stdcheck.com/blog/lgbt-std-statistics/
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/government-std-rates-among-homosexuals-alarming-troubling
https://www.foxnews.com/health/gay-men-who-use-hook-up-apps-have-higher-std-risk
https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/sexual-health/sexual-health-for-gay-and-bisexual-men/
Thats all I have to say.......
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Horde Occupation Zone
(Realises that I haven't applied for citizenship yet, therefore can't even run for senate)
Confederate Farmers, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Post self-deleted by Libernovusamericae.
Good news! I have updated the way you can apply for membership in my party, now you don't have to waste your time going into the discord to fill out a stupid form, you just have to send a telegram meeting the requirements in a dispatch linked in the main dispatch.
Hope to see some new members!
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1207328
New Waldensia, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Gagium why do you like every post?
Confederate Farmers, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
It's their job, I guess.
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Uh....
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469933815914037248/579836827763081246/image0.jpg
Libernovusamericae, Dragons Of Power, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Your party isn't even official yet, smh
Confederate Farmers, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Join the game: https://www.nationstates.net/page=cards
Confederate Farmers, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Join our cards vs NS game foo
Confederate Farmers, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
I need one member to join me and then get it sent up to the senate.
Confederate Farmers, Dragons Of Power, Barry Goldwater The Ghost, Gorefield
Nice job! What was the time?
Gagium, Eldrado, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
Post self-deleted by New Fcn Algerstonia.
Post self-deleted by New Fcn Algerstonia.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1211875
Gagium, Barry Goldwater The Ghost
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