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9min to the election I guess!

Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado

Libervalley wrote:I lean libertarian but I am very conservative when it comes to Abortion, Marriage and I don't think open borders is a good idea either.

So, no gay marriage? Or no polygamy? Or what?

Note on my views: Polygamy is BAAAAAAAAD! And is illegal AF, here!

Viridus, Midnarnia, Eldrado

I fully support Viridus for Senate Speaker. As one of the oldest nations in the CCN/FCN, he has the experience and background to effectively serve as Senate Speaker. I urge FCN members to #VoteViridus!

The Land Of Sumer wrote:I usually use ESV.

My parents church transitioned from NKJV to ESV three or four years before I got married and left (for a different church) but I just never could get a liking for the ESV. I used NKJV for a few years, but other than that have always used the KJV.

If I'm studying (i.e. to teach Sunday School or something) I'll read from KJV/NKJV and ESV and/or NASB to get some different perspectives.

Viridus, Gagium, Libervalley, Coastal English Districts, Crimsonfield, Eldrado

New Waldensia wrote:I fully support Viridus for Senate Speaker. As one of the oldest nations in the CCN/FCN, he has the experience and background to effectively serve as Senate Speaker. I urge FCN members to #VoteViridus!

g̶a̶y̶

Viridus

#VoteViridus!

Viridus is no doubt the best and most qualified candidate for Senate Speaker and i fully support him in this race. He will represent the Senate effectively and make sure all voices are heard. His great experience throughout various Government Positions is just one of the reasons i support him, not to mention his Military Experience.

Creeperopolis, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Coastal English Districts, Eldrado

Trenado wrote:g̶a̶y̶

No U

Crimsonfield is an invalid voter fyi.

1 day 16 hours ago: Crimsonfield relocated from BLITZKRIEG to Federation of Conservative Nations.

Unless you raided Blitzkrieg or something... idk

But it does appear he was an active member of that region...

Ni🅱🅱a Trenado start whipping votes.

Gagium

Polskava wrote:So, no gay marriage? Or no polygamy? Or what?

Note on my views: Polygamy is BAAAAAAAAD! And is illegal AF, here!

Well when I say libertarian what I often mean is I like the Federal Republic like we use to have where states could decide those issues individually. Like in my state gay marriage was legalized before the supreme court decision because the people directly voted for it. I don't necessarily agree but at least with that method I am okay with it because that's how the Republic was suppose to work. No where in the constitution do I see the right to gay marriage or abortion.

Public policy is down stream from public opinion. I just haven't found reasonable evidence as to why same-sex marriage is of the same value to society as traditional marriage. If we celebrated and incentivized traditional marriage as much as we celebrate being LGBT society would be much better off.

Society has trivialized all sexual immorality such as divorce, gay marriage, polygamy, promiscuous sex and many other things that we are now paying for monetarily and socially.

New Waldensia, Viridus, Eldrado

Polskava wrote:So, no gay marriage? Or no polygamy? Or what?

Note on my views: Polygamy is BAAAAAAAAD! And is illegal AF, here!

Visit beautiful Utah!

Viridus, Gagium

The Farmlands wrote:Crimsonfield is an invalid voter fyi.

1 day 16 hours ago: Crimsonfield relocated from BLITZKRIEG to Federation of Conservative Nations.

Unless you raided Blitzkrieg or something... idk

But it does appear he was an active member of that region...

Ni🅱🅱a Trenado start whipping votes.

Crimsonfield 2

New Waldensia, Viridus, Coastal English Districts, Crimsonfield

Trenado wrote:g̶a̶y̶

Top 10 campaigns that are effective

#1. saying ‘gay’

New Waldensia, Viridus

Gagium wrote:Top 10 campaigns that are effective

#1. saying ‘gay’

ye u gay

Lermant wrote:ye u gay

Okay?

Lermant

oof, I won't even have to vote for myself lol. Anyways, I'd like to thank everyone for their much valued support, I thought this was going to be easy with the death of the L&O, but with the return of CK anything could've happened, so once again Thank you!

New Waldensia, Gagium, Libervalley, Coastal English Districts, Crimsonfield

Viridus wrote:oof, I won't even have to vote for myself lol. Anyways, I'd like to thank everyone for their much valued support, I thought this was going to be easy with the death of the L&O, but with the return of CK anything could've happened, so once again Thank you!

I might do it just for the statistics, lol

New Waldensia, Coastal English Districts

Eldorado, did you get my telegram?

Viridus

Viridus wrote:oof, I won't even have to vote for myself lol. Anyways, I'd like to thank everyone for their much valued support, I thought this was going to be easy with the death of the L&O, but with the return of CK anything could've happened, so once again Thank you!

Oof, an orchestra of meows for Viridus!

New Waldensia, Viridus, Lermant

The Farmlands wrote:Crimsonfield is an invalid voter fyi.

1 day 16 hours ago: Crimsonfield relocated from BLITZKRIEG to Federation of Conservative Nations.

Unless you raided Blitzkrieg or something... idk

But it does appear he was an active member of that region...

Ni🅱🅱a Trenado start whipping votes.

Are you blind, good sir? I actually raided for this region, thank me for clearing up your confusion. Quite unprofessional to throw these accusations without consultation on the RMB for all of NS to see your mistake.

Viridus, Gagium, Coastal English Districts

Trenado wrote:g̶a̶y̶

tf?

Viridus

New Waldensia wrote:I fully support Viridus for Senate Speaker. As one of the oldest nations in the CCN/FCN, he has the experience and background to effectively serve as Senate Speaker. I urge FCN members to #VoteViridus!

My parents church transitioned from NKJV to ESV three or four years before I got married and left (for a different church) but I just never could get a liking for the ESV. I used NKJV for a few years, but other than that have always used the KJV.

If I'm studying (i.e. to teach Sunday School or something) I'll read from KJV/NKJV and ESV and/or NASB to get some different perspectives.

No, Viridus for Sen. Speaker, no, thanks. Me at least will not vote in him

Viridus, Gagium, Lermant

Fortlock wrote:No, Viridus for Sen. Speaker, no, thanks. Me at least will not vote in him

Why would you vote in me? That's pretty weird tbh

New Waldensia, Gagium, Crimsonfield

I endorse Viridus for Senate Speaker, best of luck in the election!

New Waldensia, Viridus, Crimsonfield

Viridus wrote:Why would you vote in me? That's pretty weird tbh

oof

Viridus

Gagium wrote:I endorse Viridus for Senate Speaker, best of luck in the election!

Thanks for your support, it's always nice to have Presidential backing in an election, lol

Creeperopolis, New Waldensia, Gagium, Crimsonfield

Viridus wrote:Thanks for your support, it's always nice to have Presidential backing in an election, lol

#VoteViridus!

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium

Take back control. Vote Viridus for Senate Speaker!

Washingtonian Republic, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Crimsonfield, Eldrado

Coastal English Districts wrote:Take back control. Vote Viridus for Senate Speaker!

^^^ this

Viridus, Coastal English Districts, Eldrado

I thought I was done with y'all for the day; but I promised Gagium that when I throttled down activity, I'd at least share the memeworthy $h¡t I see...

Too good not to share tbh. XD

Colorado-Kansas

NS stats reality

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Colorado-Kansas

"I don't use NS stats"

https://ibb.co/d1EL2T

Washingtonian Republic, Viridus, Fortlock, Trenado, Lermant, Eldrado

Vote for Viridus😙

Viridus, Coastal English Districts, Crimsonfield, Eldrado

rip trenado

Viridus, Crimsonfield, Eldrado

Trenado wrote:rip trenado

rip

Viridus, Trenado, Crimsonfield, Eldrado

Vote Viridus for the office of Senate Speaker, Vote Nationalist (were more than just a political party)

Viridus, Coastal English Districts, Crimsonfield, Eldrado

Washingtonian Republic wrote:Vote Viridus for the office of Senate Speaker, Vote Nationalist (were more than just a political party)

no

Trenado

[spoiler]

Libervalley wrote:Well when I say libertarian what I often mean is I like the Federal Republic like we use to have where states could decide those issues individually. Like in my state gay marriage was legalized before the supreme court decision because the people directly voted for it. I don't necessarily agree but at least with that method I am okay with it because that's how the Republic was suppose to work. No where in the constitution do I see the right to gay marriage or abortion.

Public policy is down stream from public opinion. I just haven't found reasonable evidence as to why same-sex marriage is of the same value to society as traditional marriage. If we celebrated and incentivized traditional marriage as much as we celebrate being LGBT society would be much better off.

Society has trivialized all sexual immorality such as divorce, gay marriage, polygamy, promiscuous sex and many other things that we are now paying for monetarily and socially.

[/spoiler]

It makes me mad that sexual orientation and preference holds such an “important” role in today’s society. You are now forced to value and celebrate people for their “identity”, even if they have a horrible personality and work ethic. People care more about what is offensive or not, instead of caring about achievements and actual problems.

Washingtonian Republic, Viridus, Kaiserreich Subreddit, Crimsonfield, Polskava

Yeehaw

Viridus, Eldrado

Polskava wrote:Yeehaw

Ok

Crimsonfield

Eldrado wrote:[spoiler][/spoiler]

It makes me mad that sexual orientation and preference holds such an “important” role in today’s society. You are now forced to value and celebrate people for their “identity”, even if they have a horrible personality and work ethic. People care more about what is offensive or not, instead of caring about achievements and actual problems.

Exactly

Washingtonian Republic, Trenado, Crimsonfield, Eldrado

Anyone having issues with Discord ?

Edit: oh nvm i could connect now

New Waldensia, Viridus, Eldrado

Trenado wrote:Anyone having issues with Discord ?

It's a little laggy right now

New Waldensia, Trenado, Crimsonfield, Eldrado

SUPRISE INVASION!

*Hundreds of Thousands of Slavic Troops March Across the North Korean Boarder!

We have tanks, warplanes, naval ships, and more, And more oil and Resources than any nation on Earth, and more!

Eldrado wrote:[spoiler][/spoiler]

It makes me mad that sexual orientation and preference holds such an “important” role in today’s society. You are now forced to value and celebrate people for their “identity”, even if they have a horrible personality and work ethic. People care more about what is offensive or not, instead of caring about achievements and actual problems.

That's stupid.

I say, just let people be gay and move on with it xD

Crimsonfield, Eldrado

Eldrado wrote:[spoiler][/spoiler]

It makes me mad that sexual orientation and preference holds such an “important” role in today’s society. You are now forced to value and celebrate people for their “identity”, even if they have a horrible personality and work ethic. People care more about what is offensive or not, instead of caring about achievements and actual problems.

i agree, "political correctness" has gone too far.

Viridus, Trenado, Kaiserreich Subreddit, Eldrado, Polskava

Crimsonfield wrote:i agree, "political correctness" has gone too far.

Now it's FASCISM!

Infact, Progressivism is regressivism!

Washingtonian Republic, New Waldensia, Viridus, Eldrado

Polskava wrote:SUPRISE INVASION!

*Hundreds of Thousands of Slavic Troops March Across the North Korean Boarder!

We have tanks, warplanes, naval ships, and more, And more oil and Resources than any nation on Earth, and more!

That's stupid.

I say, just let people be gay and move on with it xD

I say, send all of 'em to some place very far away and be done with it

Washingtonian Republic, Crimsonfield

How impolite, Trenado hasn't thanked his supporters yet

Crimsonfield, Eldrado

Viridus wrote:I say, send all of 'em to some place very far away and be done with it

But, WHY?! They're humans too, we can't just get rid of people because, of their sexual preferences!

Polskava wrote:But, WHY?!

You know why...

Polskava

Viridus wrote:You know why...

I edited my post, reply to that.

Viridus

Polskava wrote:I edited my post, reply to that.

k, hold on

Libervalley wrote:Well when I say libertarian what I often mean is I like the Federal Republic like we use to have where states could decide those issues individually. Like in my state gay marriage was legalized before the supreme court decision because the people directly voted for it. I don't necessarily agree but at least with that method I am okay with it because that's how the Republic was suppose to work. No where in the constitution do I see the right to gay marriage or abortion.

Public policy is down stream from public opinion. I just haven't found reasonable evidence as to why same-sex marriage is of the same value to society as traditional marriage. If we celebrated and incentivized traditional marriage as much as we celebrate being LGBT society would be much better off.

Society has trivialized all sexual immorality such as divorce, gay marriage, polygamy, promiscuous sex and many other things that we are now paying for monetarily and socially.

Postmodernism and the theories of collectivist thought, summed up in the Engels and Marx special, the Communist Manifesto.

Viridus

Polskava wrote:But, WHY?! They're humans too, we can't just get rid of people because, of their sexual preferences!

Well, for one, they feel entitled to everything just because of the fact they're gay. Also, I'm a Christian *cough*. The way I see it, it is completely unnatural by all means

The Land Of Sumer

Viridus wrote:Well, for one, they feel entitled to everything just because of the fact they're gay. Also, I'm a Christian *cough*. The way I see it, it is completely unnatural by all means

1: yeah, that's true.

2: well, me too, but though it's a sin, we can't force our religion on people.

Viridus, Eldrado

Polskava wrote:1: yeah, that's true.

2: well, me too, but though it's a sin, we can't force our religion on people.

And they can't force their gayness on the people

New Waldensia, Eldrado, Polskava

Viridus wrote:And they can't force their gayness on the people

Well, basically, I want rights, but I don't want special privallege for gay people.

New Waldensia, Viridus, Eldrado

I have yet to have this question sufficiently answered. How does the support and promotion of gay marriage benefit society?

New Waldensia, Viridus, Eldrado

Polskava wrote:1: yeah, that's true.

2: well, me too, but though it's a sin, we can't force our religion on people.

Look, why do they even want to be able to get married, it's freaking gay! (Sorry) Marriage is a religious, if not just Christian, idea and those monsters are the enemy of religion

Post self-deleted by Polskava.

Libervalley wrote:I have yet to have this question sufficiently answered. How does the support and promotion of gay marriage benefit society?

Gay marriage does the exact opposite in fact. Some times the government has to support them on welfare and they can't make babies which is a huge problem. So overall they are a waste of money

Viridus wrote:Look, why do they even want to be able to get married, it's freaking gay! (Sorry) Marriage is a religious, if not just Christian, idea and those monsters are the enemy of religion

They want to get married, because they're people too and want rights... Also, I think I'm much more socially liberal, but I'm also economically capitalist... So at least I'm not a libtard.

They're not monsters, they're people and not the enemy of religion.

I do acknowledge that being gay is a sin, but it's wrong to force your religious views on people, and this is why I'm almost Libertarian.

So, I don't like what you have to say, but I'll fight to the very end that you can say it.

Marriage is not just Christian.

Eldrado

Polskava wrote:Marriage is not just Christian.

Marriage isn't gay

Viridus wrote:Marriage isn't gay

Maybe? If your definition is the marriage between a Male and a Female, yeah.

But, gay people should still be able to... Union?

Eldrado

Polskava wrote:They want to get married, because they're people too and want rights... Also, I think I'm much more socially liberal, but I'm also economically capitalist... So at least I'm not a libtard.

They're not monsters, they're people and not the enemy of religion.

I do acknowledge that being gay is a sin, but it's wrong to force your religious views on people, and this is why I'm almost Libertarian.

So, I don't like what you have to say, but I'll fight to the very end that you can say it.

When the government gets involved in marriage there is only one reasonable reason which is to support reproduction and child rearing. It is biologically impossible for two people of the same sex to have a child, not to mention all the diseases that get spread at a significantly higher rate. I am not litigating peoples right to engage in homosexual relationships. What I am questioning is public support of such relationships.

New Waldensia, Viridus, Midnarnia, Polskava

Polskava wrote:They want to get married, because they're people too and want rights... Also, I think I'm much more socially liberal, but I'm also economically capitalist... So at least I'm not a libtard.

They're not monsters, they're people and not the enemy of religion.

I do acknowledge that being gay is a sin, but it's wrong to force your religious views on people, and this is why I'm almost Libertarian.

So, I don't like what you have to say, but I'll fight to the very end that you can say it.

Marriage is not just Christian.

"It's the attitude stupid

It's what's inside your brain

It's the attitude stupid

Ain't you ever gonna change

You keep thinkin' everything

Is black and white

Don't you know the difference

'Tween wrong and right

It's the attitude stupid

We don't owe you a thing"

Crimsonfield

I don't think I'm conservative... Or at least not religious conservative, because my views differ a lot... But I'm not economically liberal...

But, I'm tolorant... So at least I'm not a 'libtard,' xD

Viridus, Eldrado

Viridus wrote:"It's the attitude stupid

It's what's inside your brain

It's the attitude stupid

Ain't you ever gonna change

You keep thinkin' everything

Is black and white

Don't you know the difference

'Tween wrong and right

It's the attitude stupid

We don't owe you a thing"

Yeah, I have a massive f******* problem with thinking in black and white, I can't help it.

Also, i do actually know the difference between right and wrong, ITS wrong to force your religious values on others and God wouldn't like that!

Viridus, Eldrado

Polskava wrote:I don't think I'm conservative... Or at least not religious conservative, because my views differ a lot... But I'm not economically liberal...

But, I'm tolorant... So at least I'm not a 'libtard,' xD

B E E N L I G H T E N E D

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Gagium

Viridus wrote:B E E N L I G H T E N E D

https://pewtube.com/user/nswoodchuckss/YObQwBG

Yeehaw.

Yes or no, gay rights.

Polskava wrote:Yeah, I have a massive f******* problem with thinking in black and white, I can't help it.

Also, i do actually know the difference between right and wrong, ITS wrong to force your religious values on others and God wouldn't like that!

Remember the crusades? Where Christian's took over PARTS of the middle East, and probably killed a lot of non-christians? I don't think God liked that. This isn't really a good comparison, but whateves.

It's wrong to force your religious views on others.

Polskava wrote:Yeehaw.

Yes or no, gay rights.

No

Polskava wrote:Remember the crusades? Where Christian's took over PARTS of the middle East, and probably killed a lot of non-christians? I don't think God liked that. This isn't really a good comparison, but whateves.

It's wrong to force your religious views on others.

The Crusades were a response to the non-stop attacks done be the muslims back then on Europe

The New United States, Crimsonfield, Eldrado, Polskava

Polskava wrote:Remember the crusades? Where Christian's took over the middle East, and probably killed a lot of non-christians? I don't think God liked that. This isn't really a good comparison, but whateves.

It's wrong to force your religious views on others.

Establishing societal norms is not forcing religion on people. The crusades were a result of the Islamic Caliphate invading the Byzantine Empire and the pope call for forces in aid. It led to the recapturing of the holy land but characterizing it as nothing more than Europeans randomly wanting to get up one day to kill and conquer is disingenuous when the Islamic Caliphates did it to a much larger degree.

The New United States, New Waldensia, Viridus, Eldrado, The Federation Of Adrestia, Polskava

Libervalley wrote:Establishing societal norms is not forcing religion on people. The crusades were a result of the Islamic Caliphate invading the Byzantine Empire and the pope call for forces in aid. It led to the recapturing of the holy land but characterize it as nothing more than Europeans randomly wanting to get up one day to kill and conquer is disingenuous when the Islamic Caliphates did it to a much larger degree.

My point exactly

New Waldensia, Eldrado, The Federation Of Adrestia

Never mind about the crusades, forgot my history for a sec.

Viridus wrote:No

Why?

Viridus

Polskava wrote:Never mind about the crusades, forgot my history for a sec.

Why?

You know why...

Polskava

Post self-deleted by Polskava.

Viridus wrote:You know why...

I disagree.

Everyone should be entitled to civil rights, but not Government benefits and sh1t!

Eldrado

Even before gay-marriage I don't know what rights gays didn't have that heterosexuals did.

The New United States, Creeperopolis, New Waldensia, Viridus

Polskava wrote:I disagree.

Everyone should be entitled to civil rights, but not Government benefits and sh1t!

Entitlement is bad, the Left is too entitled

Eldrado, The Federation Of Adrestia, Polskava

Post self-deleted by Polskava.

We are going in circles, I'm done

Viridus wrote:Entitlement is bad, the Left is too entitled

Everyone deserves rights, everyone should be given rights by birth, but there's a point where you go way too far, and become a progressive/regressive, that tries to make everyone look Oppressed, and has constant microaggressions, and wants to ruin video games because, there are no black characters, and other sh1t! That's what I hate, I hate it so much, people like that are litterally mental, and people who think there are MORE than 2 Genders!

But, everyone at least does deserve rights, every gender, race, bla bla bla.

Washingtonian Republic, Viridus, Coastal English Districts, Eldrado

And it's WRONG, to force your religious views on another person!

Anyway, I'm not socially conservative, I'm libertarian, I guess, so I'm gonna go....

Sorry, guys, but hey, at least I'm not a libtard!

Viridus, Eldrado

Gay people could and can still marry people of the opposite sex which some did so there was no exclusion from marriage. They weren't excluded from traditional marriage. Hence it wasn't a right they didn't have. It was just a word that was redefined.

I had a study group in church and this issue was part of the discussion. One lady accused people who didn't want homosexuals ordained and same-sex marriage in the church to people who would fight inter-racial marriage. Triggered! lol

The New United States, Washingtonian Republic, New Waldensia, Viridus, Eldrado, Polskava

Libervalley wrote:Even before gay-marriage I don't know what rights gays didn't have that heterosexuals did.

Creeperopolis, Viridus, Trenado

Polskava wrote:And it's WRONG, to force your religious views on another person!

Anyway, I'm not socially conservative, I'm libertarian, I guess, so I'm gonna go....

Sorry, guys, but hey, at least I'm not a libtard!

>loses an argument against one guy that’s not libertarian

>”since everyone here isn’t a libertarian I’m out”

Viridus, Crimsonfield

Homosexual marriage is an oxymoron.

The New United States, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium

Hey, everybody! This is TNUS. I'm a long-time member of Libertatem and Right to Life, with whom y'all have embassies. Good to be here! :)

Libervalley wrote:Gay people could and can still marry people of the opposite sex which some did so there was no exclusion from marriage. They weren't excluded from traditional marriage. Hence it wasn't a right they didn't have. It was just a word that was redefined.

I had a study group in church and this issue was part of the discussion. One lady accused people who didn't want homosexuals ordained and same-sex marriage in the church to people who would fight inter-racial marriage. Triggered! lol

Yeah, it's getting pretty bad.

Washingtonian Republic, Viridus

Seems Viridus will be the next Senate Speaker. Destroyed Trenado

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Crimsonfield

Creeperopolis wrote:Seems Viridus will be the next Senate Speaker. Destroyed Trenado

Oof

Creeperopolis, New Waldensia, Viridus, Trenado, Crimsonfield

Gagium wrote:>loses an argument against one guy that’s not libertarian

>”since everyone here isn’t a libertarian I’m out”

> Says I lost the argument, even though I didn't.

>Nah, I liked TSP, too.

Viridus, Gagium

Polskava wrote:> Says I lost the argument, even though I didn't.

>Nah, I liked TSP, too.

Head back then

Viridus, Crimsonfield

#VoteGagium!

New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Lermant

Interesting topic on gay marriage etc. I will do my best to politely and concisely articulate my opinion and belief on the matter. Since it is an opinion and belief, it is in no way attempting to discriminate, anger, or be forced down the throats of others. As a protestant “sola scriptura” christian, hearing other christians attemp to combat biblical truths with moral relativity make me feel a little sad inside. According to the bible and especially the letters from Paul that make up a portion of the bible, hands down it is a christian truth that Gay marriage and homosexuality in general is wrong from the lens of a christian believer. I say this because other groups see homosexuality as ok which is a belief and opinion they are entitled to. However, according to the bible, homosexuality is a direct affront to the perfect design that God made through the union of one male and one female for a lifetime. Since this is solidly identified Christian doctrine, it makes me sad to know that there are christians that embrace moral relativity and say that because society thinks gay marriage is ok, then christians should think it is ok as well. From the perspective of Christian beliefs, the bible describes our relationship with Christ as a “marriage” where the church body is referred to in scripture as Christ’s bride. While this seems really weird, further scriptural evaluation identifies a christian relationship with God begun once a christian believes and carried out for an eternity. The symbolism in scripture identifying Christ as the “groom” and the church as the “bride” further shows the difference between us and God. Two different groups coming together in a union that is made perfect by God. Going back to the main point, according to my belief as a christian and according to the Word of God, gay marriage is a direct attack on the very example God gave us of the relationship that we are to have with him. Just as a male and female are different and unique yet unified by marriage, so to is the believer and God. Since earthly marriage is the example God gave us to show the relationship we have are to have with him, defiling that example by saying gay is ok essentially is saying that God is wrong and that there are other ways to find and create the perfect relationship that we have with God. Sorry about the really in depth Biblical doctrine. I just thought I would add in my thoughts. Again, it is an opinion and I am in no way judging the individual who disagrees. We just have different beliefs which is bound to occur. Thanks for hearing me out.

The New United States, New Waldensia, Viridus

The Land Of Sumer wrote:[spoiler]Interesting topic on gay marriage etc. I will do my best to politely and concisely articulate my opinion and belief on the matter. Since it is an opinion and belief, it is in no way attempting to discriminate, anger, or be forced down the throats of others. As a protestant “sola scriptura” christian, hearing other christians attemp to combat biblical truths with moral relativity make me feel a little sad inside. According to the bible and especially the letters from Paul that make up a portion of the bible, hands down it is a christian truth that Gay marriage and homosexuality in general is wrong from the lens of a christian believer. I say this because other groups see homosexuality as ok which is a belief and opinion they are entitled to. However, according to the bible, homosexuality is a direct affront to the perfect design that God made through the union of one male and one female for a lifetime. Since this is solidly identified Christian doctrine, it makes me sad to know that there are christians that embrace moral relativity and say that because society thinks gay marriage is ok, then christians should think it is ok as well. From the perspective of Christian beliefs, the bible describes our relationship with Christ as a “marriage” where the church body is referred to in scripture as Christ’s bride. While this seems really weird, further scriptural evaluation identifies a christian relationship with God begun once a christian believes and carried out for an eternity. The symbolism in scripture identifying Christ as the “groom” and the church as the “bride” further shows the difference between us and God. Two different groups coming together in a union that is made perfect by God. Going back to the main point, according to my belief as a christian and according to the Word of God, gay martiage is a direct attack on the very example God gave us of the relationship that we are to have with him. Just as a male and female are different and unique yet unified by marriage, so to is the believer and God. Since earthly marriage is the example God gave us to show the relationship we have are to have with him, defiling that example by saying gay is ok essentially is saying that God is wrong and that there are other ways find and create the perfect relationship that we have with God. Sorry about the really in depth Biblical doctrine. I just thought I would add in my thoughts. Again, it is an opinion and I am in no way judging the individual who disagrees. We just have different beliefs. Thanks for hearing me out. [/spoiler]

And I do not identify as “socially conservative”, ”moderate”, or “liberal” etc. I identify as a Child of God and a Christian whose identity is in Christ, so regardless of political ideologies or biases, I go straight to the bible first for my answers. I take my beliefs seriously and when the bible flat out says gay marriage and homosexuality is wrong, I will stand by and support the living and active Word of God regardless of what others say. God comes first for me.

New Waldensia, Viridus

The Land Of Sumer wrote:As a protestant “sola scriptura” christian

Welcome to the region, brother!

The New United States, Viridus, Crimsonfield

Is Anyone voting for N. Wellwood?

New Waldensia

Lermant wrote:Is Anyone voting for N. Wellwood?

No

New Waldensia

Viridus wrote:No

Not even the candidate himself, apparently

> Be North Wellwood

> Promise to run for President

> Beat Fortlock in L&O primary

> Fail to campaign

> Fail to vote in own race

RIP

Washingtonian Republic, Viridus, Gagium, Crimsonfield

>Be me

>Leave, promise to check in

>Be in Hotel in dank town in Northwest Texas.

>Perfect time to take a peak at the RMB.

>See ((Gagium is the first President to have ever been re-elected))

>Is this what the region will look like when I'm gone??

Washingtonian Republic, New Waldensia, Gagium, Crimsonfield

>Be me

>Leave, promise to check in

>Be in Hotel in dank town in Northwest Texas.

>Perfect time to take a peak at the RMB.

>See ((0 votes for L&O candidate))

>Is this what the region will look like when I'm gone??

Washingtonian Republic, New Waldensia, Viridus, Trenado

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