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Region: Federation of Conservative Nations
YES THIS
Gagium, Knat, The Sladerstan
You are, and currently you are ban evading.
Viridus, Gagium, Knat
I had a teacher in what I believe is 6th grade for you, and he was hecca in favour of compulsory voting. Not that I am, but... If you have the right to vote, you may as well use it all the time.
Gagium, Knat
Not from what I've been told, anyway.
Gagium, Knat
You're banned from the discord and it'll stay that way, but go "yes this" all you want.. :P
Viridus, Knat
My trial was meant to be last Tuesday... Either way, I'll continue my "YES THISSING" until I'm banned.
Gagium, Knat
You dont get a trial
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Knat
Are you suggesting that we have to care and even worry about the situation of his family? As harsh as this will sound, it really is not our problem if his parents don't allow him to use Discord. That's his personal problem.
Gagium, Knat, Logon
Look, I don't understand how you of all people can come here and say anything with credibility. You are a disgraced politician, and quite frankly, you should never again be trusted with any sort of power.
Count yourself lucky that you still have a vote in the Senate and a voice on the RMB. And on that note, be smart and don't bring more attention to yourself. Your past in this region's government is nothing to be proud of. You should have already publicly apologized and retired from all political activity by now.
Ulrech, Gagium, Fluvannia, Mietkael, Knat, Logon, Meirshir
What sort of threat is this?
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Knat
I think what hes trying to say is that the region could have punished Rhiney more for his conduct during the whole NI affair and its aftermath, but they didnt. Not a threat, more a reminder. Thats how I read it anyway.
Gagium, Mietkael, Knat, Logon
It's not a threat. It's a statement of fact. He is lucky to still have a seat in the Senate after the scandal he was connected to.
It seems that the former Delegate ought to spend more time in this region to understand the nuances of current affairs. And if he can't, then he should at least refrain from just throwing out unfounded inferences.
It really helps to know what you're talking about or at least be humble when you don't.
Gagium, Knat, Logon
I cannot get on Discord because my parents said if I do I lose my phone.
Viridus, Gagium, Emerisis, Knat
Allow me to quote from the Senate chamber:
As far as I know, NI did not speak to Holy Rhinish Islands about this. In fact, NI spoke negatively about Rhiney behind closed doors.
[...]
Yall do realize this has nothing to do with Rhiney right?
It seems to me that the current Delegate should be more diplomatic about his interactions with members of his region rather than casting caustic asperions on those whom he disagrees with.
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Knat, Aglonia, The Sladerstan, Democratic Federation Party
Viridus, Gagium, Knat, Aglonia
Coming from a person who implied I was threatening a former government official, I would say the same to the former Delegate. There is no need for such lies here, and the former Delegate ought not to allow his opposition to my bill cloud his judgement.
And I see that you haven't fully understood any one of our claims. To begin with, Ulrech asserted that Rhiney took orders from New Inglaterra after the former President himself released personal chat logs on the Discord General that showed the former head of the Executive Branch taking direct orders from the former leader of the NPP. Gagium even questioned Rhiney on this very point, based on the logs.
As for what I've claimed. I've claimed that Rhiney lacks the credibility--based on his past actions--to adequately comment on any, if not most, government affairs. He may certainly have the right to speak as he wishes--something he should feel very fortunate to still have--but he does not have the moral basis to speak with any authority.
For instance, if he were truly the populist voice of the people, as he so claims, then he wouldn't have taken his orders from our region's equivalent of Rasputin. He truly would have listened to the people. At least he listened to them enough to have resigned once New Inglaterra fled this region.
In any case, in direct response to your quote, that New Inglaterra hated Rhiney does not mean that the former Speaker didn't use the former President. That information does not cast even the slightest sufficient doubt.
Ulrech, Gagium, Knat
The way in which Rhiney uses the fact that we are a region on Nation States is peculiar. Yes. We recruit and partake in this game called Nation States by operating a page on this website. But every function of this region's government operates on the Discord out of necessity. We cannot, as Rhiney so conveniently does, ignore this fact. Debates can rarely be had on this platform--for instance--without moderators controlling what people say. And the threat of espionage and targeted raids against various regional outposts on this website is both present and clear.
Nearly every day as World Assembly Delegate, I see new resolutions in the Security Council trying to get entire regions liberated from absolutely devastating attacks. I see regions that even after liberation, fail to return to their former glory. The Federation of Conservative Nations has many enemies, and they would be all too glad to wipe us out in one strike if we foolishly decided to keep all of our government processes on Nation States. This cannot ever happen. That is why we have Discord.
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Now, some of you will probably wonder why I seemingly care so much about this region or why I use such alarming language. Let me put it you all this way; if the Federation were to disappear tomorrow, the largest, moderate voice for the Nation States right will have been wiped out in an instant. Let that sink in. In our collapse, the voice of the Nation States right would fall to the League of Conservative Nations and God knows what other right-wing regions fester on this platform. Think of matters in this way: we are the Israel of Nation States. If we go, that's it for our people.
Gagium, Greater Bastion, Mietkael, Knat
Tags San Carlos Islands
Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Mietkael, Knat, Baconstate, The Sladerstan
I will echo some of the things Ibentahas said in regards to the Rhiney ordeal Holy Rhinish Islands literally admitted the Inglaterra told him what to say Im the debates although the incident of spying in particular had nothing to do with Rhiney...Rhiney and NI were basically joined at the hip
Gagium, Fluvannia, Mietkael, Knat
You can't remove someone from the senate for that though.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Knat
Meanwhile me, an indie watching the conservatives and the nationalists going @ each other's throats *lul* .
Juicy content for the next FCN times edition.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Knat, Aglonia, The Sladerstan
Hi I know Im not in this region any more but I would just like to say that Rhiney basically did whatever I told him to do during the debates.
Additionally, it was I who told him to do a lot of the early administration stuff, like who to appoint to his Cabinet.
In fact, when he started to have a mind of his own I was ready to remove him from the NPP.
I know my opinion isnt quite valued here anymore, but I figured you should know.
Ulrech, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Knat, The Sladerstan
Ulrech is wrong when he says Rhiney and I were joined at the hip.
Rhiney was in the palm of my hand.
Ulrech, Gagium, Mietkael, Holy Rhinish Islands, Knat, The Sladerstan
Boo, get out of here traitor!
New Waldensia, Gagium, Knat, Democratic Federation Party
What are nationalists? The irrelevant Viridus party?
Gagium, Knat
Welp. Guess it's time for me to move the the LCN.
#OpenBordersForTheFCN
#FCNApartheid
Gagium, Knat, The Sladerstan
You fool, we've already established illegal settlements in the LCN!
Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Knat, The Sladerstan
I am in the Nationalist Party
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Knat
You could've taken 300 less chapters off of that book you just wrote, and said it in a paragraph.
"We need to be on Discord out of necessity, and because raids are common on NS, we'd be destroyed if our government was only on NS. That is why we are on Discord and keep the government there. "
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Greater Bastion, Knat
Never once did I accuse you of any wrongdoing thats not the point here...the point is dont act like youre entirely clean now that we know your puppet master picked out your entire Cabinet and wrote your speech for you
Gagium, Knat
Thanks for re-affirming our belief that you're manipulative
Viridus, Fluvannia, Greater Bastion, Mietkael, Holy Rhinish Islands, Knat
He only picked my SecWar once. Everyone else was out of my own volition. The only thing he wrote was the debate, the one speech he wrote for me was rejected by me.
Gagium, Knat
I highly doubt this but either way...the fact that you resigned the moment NI was outed points to a different story...that being said you really arent in any position to say someone else doesnt care about the people given thats what you ran your entire campaign on and at the first sign of strife whatd you do...you resigned and ran for the hills....if my calculations are correct thats the second time youve abandoned the region?
Gagium, Fluvannia, Greater Bastion, Knat, Logon
Correct.
Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Greater Bastion, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Knat
F-word
Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Knat, Logon
For someone who cares about "the common man" he sure does abandon them a lot, doesn't he?
Gagium, Fluvannia, Knat
Reminder that "the common man" is just communist propaganda.
Ulrech, Washingtonian Republic, Gagium, Fluvannia, Greater Bastion, Knat, Logon, The Sladerstan
I also picked your Vice President, you took Bastion because of my urging.
I also told you to select Gagium and NW for their positions.
I am the one who made you get off the couch and release a statement regarding the LCN.
I am the one who wrote your lines for the last debate.
I am the one who made you take action on the LCN.
I am the one who made you do your job.
The only times you made decisions independent of me are selecting COT for SecWar (fine choice, no?) and pushing the idea of WP for Head Journalist.
Ulrech, Gagium, Knat, Logon
Im so glad NI isnt the biggest fan of you now Holy Rhinish Islands because hes exposed you for what you truly were...a cog in the machine of bureaucracy
Gagium, Greater Bastion, Mietkael, Knat, Logon
A cog in bueaucracy? More like a puppet dancing to whatever tune NI sung
Gagium, Greater Bastion, Mietkael, Knat
YES
Gagium, Knat, Baconstate
What he was was too young to hold office and quite frankly weakminded in this regard, this is someone who EO'd something that was voted against 14-1 in the...
Wait, why are we still talking about the Rhinish administration? :/
Ulrech, Viridus, Fluvannia, Greater Bastion, Holy Rhinish Islands, Knat, Logon
I intended to keep Gagium and NW, sire, ever since I released the Why Not to vote for Furby dispatch. You didn't make me do anything regarding the LCN, that was all my own volition. You didn't make me do my job at ALL.
Gagium, Knat
UwU only if it's both ways
Gagium, Knat, Noeah
Could it be done here instead?
Why not play nationstates on nationstates and not a website some people can't use. If I want to be a part of thing here why should I have to go somewhere else.
Requiring Discord reminds me of the "literacy tests" and "poll taxes" racists used against people of color in the past to vote. Something arbitrary to limit voters to the ones they wanted. If I don't have Discord is there anything I can do here to participate?
Why not have government in the forums where everyone can join in?
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Knat
Still trying to process the abundant corruption and incompetence.
Or we're like people watching air crash investigations.
Gagium, Fluvannia, Knat
Because it is simply not as effective as using Discord for Government. I understand your concerns, but I do not see how to love our government onto Nationstates
Viridus, Gagium, Mietkael, Knat, Logon
Firstly, because an NS region is more vulnerable than Discord can ever be.
Secondly, because an NS RMB is not made for the same level of fast discussion as Discord allows.
Thirdly, requiring Discord is nowhere near as exclusionary as a poll tax or literacy test was. It's disgusting you would deign to compare the legitimate struggles of African Americans in a racist society to your parental restrictions or laziness to get a Discord, and in the case of the former, a proposal for exceptions to the Discord rule was written and ready to be proposed the moment CA-11-24 passed.
Gagium, Knat
Okay as an PoC Im rather appalled that youre comparing moving to discord to a literacy joining a free platform isnt something difficult to do plus lets not act like the general populace on NS is highly active...that being said Ive thought of possible remedies to the situation however the bill didnt pass so were back to square one
Gagium, Fluvannia, Mietkael, Knat, Logon
I smell a controlled opposition puppet.
Gagium, Fluvannia, Mietkael, Knat, Logon
He was created around the time of the debate starting and moved to the FCN nearly immediately.
Hmm....
Gagium, Fluvannia, Mietkael, Knat
Makes you :thonk: , huh?
Gagium, Fluvannia, Mietkael, Knat, Logon
If our Nationstates government isn't on Nationstates, it doesn't really seem like it's ours.
In what manner?
Judging from some of what I've seen here, thought-out might be more desirable than fast.
Speaking as an African American, I call it as I see it. You're quick to discount people's rights due to your own privileges, and call them lazy if they lack your privilege. Privileged people denied my grandparents the right to vote and when I see that attitude crop back up I won't be silent.
Viridus, Gagium
Are we still talking about the CA?
Viridus, Gagium, Logon
I smell no argument.
Viridus, Gagium, Knat
Nah. I've made pretty good arguments this whole debate. Try harder Rhiney, in-fact, stop Rhiney; you've already won.
Gagium, Knat
So in your head your controlled opposition makes arguments AFTER winning? I think what I smelled was right.
Viridus, Gagium, Knat
1. An NS region can be raided much easier than a Discord can. If we're careful, we can make sure no raiding happens on the Discord. A Senate region could get raided tomorrow if it existed.
2. It is thought-out, but Discord allows for a much easier and faster method to talk. And how would you know if you aren't even in the Senate...? (*coughs* Puppet *coughs*)
3. And I'm an ethnic Jew so not only you should get off your high horse of thinking your ancestors were the only ones discriminated against, I'll say I'm allowed to call it how I see it, and what I see is a simple requirement for voting. I made a whole new Discord in just over three minutes. If you can't spend three minutes making an account to vote and participate, why should you even vote? A Solid South era discriminatory voting policy is not comparable to making someone get a Discord. In fact, getting a Discord is the internet version of having to drive to the polling place to vote. Is that so much to ask?
Gagium, Knat
Yeah, because now you're using this to build NuNoPP.
Gagium, Knat, Logon
1. Can raiders delete what we say here or in the forums? No? So what's the problem?
2. Again, from what I've seen here fast doesn't equate to good.
3. Jews discriminate too. They built a nation to discriminate against Palestinians, walling them off like animals. Sorry if I don't sympathize with one of the most privileged groups of white people on the planet. And the rest of you wrote is so ridiculous now I know you aren't even reading what I wrote.
And what is that?
Viridus, Gagium, Knat
Don't play games with me Rhiney. You know you've blown it. lmao
Gagium, Logon
I'll take that for you don't have an argument and I'm guessing you're the resident paranoid? Can anyone confirm?
Viridus, Gagium
I hereby pronounce San Carlos Islands to be No PP!
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Logon, The Sladerstan
No it's just so obvious you're a puppet
Gagium
What the frick happened here
Viridus, Gagium
I mean I looked you up here and apparently you just arrived from another region people are banned from. Maybe you're a puppet. Either way I guess I don't need to make my point because apparently "Rhiney" won already.
Here's what I'm talking about with you:
What is LCN and why would you be kicked out?
Gagium
I arrived several weeks ago, not a day and a half ago. The LCN is another region that is a dictatorship under their "Chief Consul" and they kicked me out when I called them out for spying on the FCN.
I was admitted as a refugee and was grandfathered in by the LCN Relations Act
Gagium
You have 16.5 days on me so you have me there. If they're a dictatorship why were you there first?
Gagium
It seems like a good amount of you could use an FCN history lesson so I invite all of you to join the discord and participate in the newly created FCN university
Viridus, Gagium, Logon
He's obviously an LCN spy. Reeeeee
Viridus, Gagium, Logon
Ah yes, the "You're a puppet!" "no u" wars
Liberated American Provinces, New Waldensia, Viridus
Wait but I thought I was NI 2.0?
Gagium
NO! I'm a LCN spy. :(
Liberated American Provinces, Gagium
Ok puppet
Gagium
Oh right. No PP, commie, and LCN spy. You should be banned!
Gagium
I love it when people can't respond with anything meaningful, so they complain about how much I type. It's a shame that some people aren't humble enough to admit that they have nothing substantive to reply with.
But in any case, Sladerstan ought to realize that what he says about my "book" could easily be said about any other speech in history. Why not, for example, condense Franklin Delano Roosevelt's speech to the Congress--following the attack on Pearl Harbor--to the line, "Japan is evil, and America shall declare war on her?" Obviously, who could possibly have the time or knowledge to actually listen to a seven-minute speech of multiple long pages and of several thousands of characters?
And how about John Fitzgerald Kennedy's 1962 speech at Rice University? Obviously, Kennedy should have just told the students and faculty members at that school's stadium, "We choose to go to the moon!" and have called it a day. I mean, truly. Who could possibly have listened to President Kennedy drone on for over eighteen minutes?
Sladerstan complains about me writing a three-hundred-word response. (He erroneously says "characters," but that's besides the point.) If he finds that long, how will he deal with the college environment where students are expected to write three-hundred-word assignments daily as easily if they were taking a nap? Truly, America's best universities are failing its youth by training them to read and write papers of over fifty pages in length! Congress and the Supreme Court should clearly not write legislation and judicial decisions that often span more than twenty pages!
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Oh, and by the way. A paragraph is normally a collection of four to five sentences. But yes, I know. That's clearly much too long. How could anyone possibly read four to five sentences!?
Gagium, Mietkael, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Sladerstan
It's not that I can't read it, but I find it strange that you wrote me an entire document just to tell me that the government needs to stay on Discord.
Also, don't get ahead of yourself, we're on a website, not at the State of the Union address
Viridus, Gagium
Ironic
Gagium, Mietkael, The Sladerstan
Impeach Greater Bastion!
Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Greater Bastion, The Sladerstan
Yes! Impeach me!
I am a communist, after all.
Liberated American Provinces, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, The Sladerstan
Yes!
Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Greater Bastion, The Sladerstan
I'd take Rhiney over Greater Bastion any day!
Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Greater Bastion
You just posted cringe
Gagium, Fluvannia, Dragons Of Power, Greater Bastion, Mietkael, The Sladerstan
Well then you are lost!
New Waldensia, Gagium, Greater Bastion, The Sladerstan
This is the mark of an uninformed voter
Gagium, Fluvannia, Greater Bastion, The Sladerstan
Ironic.
Viridus, Gagium
uNiNfOrMeD because he doesnt share your opinion, lol
Liberated American Provinces, Gagium, Greater Bastion, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Sladerstan
The best kind of uninformed
Viridus, Gagium, Greater Bastion, Holy Rhinish Islands
Hello!
Viridus, Gagium
No, you're banned from the region definitely. Don't return with this puppet or any other.
Furbish Islands, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, The Clone Republic, Dragons Of Power, Ibenta, San Carlos Islands, Greater Bastion, Mietkael, Logon, The Sladerstan, Lats Chribrudo
k
New Waldensia, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Logon, Lats Chribrudo
Bruh
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Logon, Lats Chribrudo
I'm gonna say it. Suribachi is a spam puppet owned by Holy Rhinish Islands.
:sadcoyboydabs:
Liberated American Provinces, Furbish Islands, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Mietkael, Logon
Post self-deleted by San Carlos Islands.
Oh
Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Fluvannia, Dragons Of Power, Mietkael, Logon, The Sladerstan
Hes awaiting trial!
Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Greater Bastion
The mods just made that whole trial thing a lot easier
New Waldensia, Gagium, Fluvannia, Dragons Of Power, Logon, The Sladerstan
Its like if God were to smite the defendant in a court case before the trial
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Dragons Of Power, Emerisis, The Sladerstan
When there are people in this region who legitimately believe that the entirety of the government should come to Nation States, it's not that strange. The NPP literally proposed bringing the entire government to Nation States at one point, and who knows what the DFP will propose.
As for your second, point. Sure, but this is coming from the person complaining about three hundred words. Obviously, I didn't write a State of the Union or a "book"--as you claimed.
Gagium, The Sladerstan
No u
I like Turtles
I know what Rhiney did, I'm not brain dead.
Also, who was the Moderator talking about? What was Meirshir's main nation that was banned?
Gagium, Dragons Of Power
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