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Region: Federation of Conservative Nations
You'd have to refresh my memory, but thanks? I can't recall being part of a party.
Freedom!
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Shut up Otira
Otira, Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Ibenta, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
What thrashing is that? I've pointed out a party's hypocrisy, not typed out a grand platform. Your hypothetical also falls short a little. I'm not sure where free speech includes destroying/grabbing private property, and so that's a whole new can of worms. I can respect your belief in limits in speech, but you'd have to form a better (less fallacious) argument. Not that that's really what my original post was about.
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Ladies and gentlemen, let this be a lesson. Clearly, one can bring a thirsty mule to water, but one cannot make the ass drink for its life.
In any case, I fully expect your endorsement, Otira. You ought to at least to follow the laws of this region.
Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda
Post by Ibenta suppressed by a moderator.
Hmm, I think the lesson should be not to write angry paragraphs. And a mule and ass are two separate things, as cute as you're trying to be.
What would you like to be endorsed for? If you can make a concise, non-angry argument I will entertain it.
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
There's no need to descend to levels of name-calling and nastiness. Have some dignity. And I'm not a libertarian and never claimed to be.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Why can't you quote multiple things in the same message and then respond bro
Gagium, Fluvannia, Ibenta, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Post by Ibenta suppressed by a moderator.
You may want to join the region's libertarian party. Honestly they are your best bet for free speech I think they will be registered later today.
If you haven't already joined the Senate, you should join the Senate to help promote these policies.
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda
I try to hit a couple at a time.
I must have hit pretty close to the mark to get you this riled up. I hope you realise it wasn't personal. Try to behave the dignity your office entails.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Oh I don't think I'd be able to devote enough time to be a senator, and I'm not a libertarian for the sake of FCN. I was simply pointing out (and Ibenta confirmed) the Conservative Party's hypocrisy in their listed stances. I didn't intend to upset him (or anyone) as much as I apparently did by said pointing out.
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
That's a tall order you're asking for there :lol:
Otira, Viridus, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
I may have to push for your ascension to God-Emperor and request the boon of a swift death to escape the tirade.
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
You can join the Senate. It isn't very time consuming. Under 20 minutes a day is all that's really required I feel to be an active senator.
Otira, Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
I'm not mad? You realize that writing a few paragraphs is customary in any fruitful exchange of ideas, right? This entire time, people have been trying to engage with you in thoughtful discussion, but you've responded with rather flippant one liners. If anything, I--like many others here--are getting frustrated by your rather rude conduct.
How do you expect to survive in intellectual spaces if you're not actually willing to stand and flesh out your ideals civilly? This entire time, you haven't actually argued anything with reason. You just keep repeating the same one-line attacks without actually trying to explain what you mean by those critiques. And when people respond to you, you just keep repeating the same one-liners.
Just compare how many people have liked my responses to yours. There's a reason for that.
Otira, Gagium, Fluvannia, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
I would have to join the WA with my main nation, correct? Hypothetical: if my WA nation is delegate of another region would that work or would it count as treason? Only a hypothetical, I plead the 5th on the matter in all other regards.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Again, how are we being hypocritical when we're not libertarians who don't believe in small government? This is common knowledge about the Conservative Party. Why am I having to repeat myself?
Also, this is exactly the reason why you don't have any reason to complain. You don't know what you're talking about because you refuse to actually make yourself an active part of this region.
Otira, Gagium, Fluvannia, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Are you asking or telling? You don't have to be angry, but you can more easily demonstrate that by refraining from name-calling and ad hominems. It's beneath you.
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1235992
At least familialise yourself with the listed platform of your party. If it's out of date, update it. Cheers!
Edit: It seems to have last been updated 5 hours ago.
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
It's called a rhetorical question. You know what that is, right?
And my name-calling is a response to your rather flippant disregard for other people's thoughts. If you refuse to take anyone seriously, there's no reason why any of us should have to treat you with respect.
Otira, Fluvannia, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
I've literally said that the party platform is outdated. I've literally said that we're in the middle of updating it. That party platform has been outdated for many months now. I'm literally drafting a new platform for our party from the ground up. It's literally going to replace the entire existing platform.
Again, why am I having to repeat myself?
Otira, Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Ah yes the Conservatives are the only ones who can edit the dispatch...like I suggested earlier since you seem so invested in protecting freedom of speech on a platform that doesnt allow freedom of speech wed love to hear what you have to say on our discord server because I hate to break it to you but your cries will probably fall mainly on mute ears as virtually no one shares the same sentiments as you
Otira, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
I'm actually amazed by how stupid one person can be. This isn't even name-calling anymore. It's just accurate. Like, no matter how many times I've told this child that I'm in the middle of writing a new platform from scratch that's soon going to replace the existing document, he keeps repeating the same thing. I feel like I'm talking to a broken record player.
Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Mmhmm, really?
Still beneath you. If you feel the need to resort to name-calling because I don't address every line in a three paragraph sarcastic rant, maybe you're better off taking a break from the computer for a while or ignoring me. I was satisfied with your concession of the original point, I didn't feel the need to extend the argument into what I consider irrelevant tangents.
Yes, now. You could have led with that rather than taking everything so personally from the beginning. As it is, the claim that the platform is out of date when the page has been updated *while we were talking* comes off as disingenuous.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=37593808
But if you say so, it works for me.
Viridus, Gagium, West Phoenicia, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Speaking of hitting, your posts make me wanna hit you a couple of times
(For legal reasons this is a joke)
Otira, Ulrech, Gagium, Fluvannia, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
That's fine with me. I rather like diversity of thought.
I'm glad to see you contributing and edited this post especially for you.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda
Post by Ibenta suppressed by a moderator.
Logical fallacies aren't an argument, but ok. Rather than hurt your head any more than you have, maybe give it a rest? Update your platform and carry on.
Viridus, Gagium, West Phoenicia, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
I feel your pain my doood
Otira, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Ibenta, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
So pretty much what youve admitted is youre all talk and absolutely no action Otira
Fluvannia, Dragons Of Power, Ibenta, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda, Noeah
Given the fallacies presented, I am certain I'm many things in your mind. But as to my original point, I was making an observation and not nominating myself for anything. What action need I take?
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Hello. I just moved here! Super excited to be an active member of this community!
Otira, Liberated American Provinces, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, West Phoenicia, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
Brilliant! I believe weve found our new Goddess, sorry Crimmy
Otira, Liberated American Provinces, New Waldensia, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Aglonia, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
Agreed!
Otira, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Sees flag. Gulps.
Jk
Anyways, welcome! Says the foreigner :/
Otira, Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
Out of curiosity I looked up my telegrams and found you asking me to vote for Furby, but not the other way around. And then appealing to me last election to vote against Rhiney. What was your point?
Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Also, Otira is right, not about the free speech thing, about Okasians behavior and youre not helping, Emerisis
New Waldensia, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Aww thanks everyone! I feel so welcomed!
Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, The Sladerstan, Hindiabelanda
Dont flatter yourself... I simply asked you to join the Senate if youre so keen on changing the laws...I havent nor will I put much effort into combatting someone who doesnt seem to have a desire to participate in our government
Otira, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
I can get used to your term in office!
Otira, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Aglonia, Hindiabelanda
Are you ignoring the telegram right after Furbys election where I responded to you and said Wed love to have you
Otira, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
I agree with Okasian's point, but here's the problem with his argument tho, he doesn't give any respect what so ever. But, I'm just a foreigner, so :/
Otira, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Why thank you! We have wonderful things planned. Great things.
Edit: Gosh I sound like Trump
Otira, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
You've given me an awful large portion of your time despite it. I feel bad about that.
And it was a courteous offer. I'm afraid I don't see the connection with your original claim I asked you to vote for Furby. Nor that it matters, I don't see the point of your line of posts with regards to Furby. You convinced me with his pro-RPing on the boards stance.
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Okasian is Ibenta, correct? I could respect his differing view on free speech, but the condescending, fallacious way he led with it probably doomed the discussion from the beginning. It's a shame.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
There's already a bill in the Senate to make me God-Emperor that's being voted on, unfortunately some heretics are voting against it though
Otira, New Waldensia, Viridus, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Disappointing smh.
Burn the heretics!
Otira, Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
I only speak for the mule vote, and speech laws ban us from making cases in the senate, but lead us to water and you have our vote. We may even drink.
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Im tabbing in to respond to you like once every 10 minutes while Im also on discord voting on bills...like I said dont flatter yourself
Otira, Gagium, Hindiabelanda
So what is the platform of the Conservative Party if the WFE link is wrong?
Otira, Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Too late, you flatter me.
Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
I am both a spineless enabler of fascism and a dirty communist
Otira, Viridus, Gagium, Ibenta, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
"Internationalism" apparently
Otira, Viridus, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Now FCN is doomed.
Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
HAIL FASCISMO
Otira, Liberated American Provinces, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Time to bring back the one, true Nazbol party to save us all!
Otira, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
The Silver Legion?
Otira, New Waldensia, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Hindiabelanda
The one true legion
Otira, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Smh the People's Party
Otira, Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
What, like socialism?
Otira, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Dunno, here's the dispatch..
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1166128
Otira, Viridus, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Cp, Communist Party. They used to be red.
When I originally founded the CP it was a Commie party!
Otira, Viridus, Gagium, Hindiabelanda
Hot.
Otira, Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
"Anti-Censorship"
Otira, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
IRONIC AS HELL
Otira, Gagium, Hindiabelanda
The real libertarians?
sMaLl gOVeRNmEnT
Otira, Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Yes, but you were No PP.
Otira, Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
But I founded the CP
Otira, Gagium, Hindiabelanda
Comrade, it's not censorship when the State orders it. Now get back in the soup line and remember you're free.
Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Edited 364 days like weve said its out of date and were actually in the process of revising the party platform partially based on our influx of new members
Otira, Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Commie.
Otira, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda
What?
Otira, Ulrech, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Sorry, comrade!
Otira, Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Maybe.... it is Crimmy?
RIP me.
I embrace the flames with open arms!
Otira, Viridus, Gagium, The Legion Of Mankind, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
My behavior was warranted, but I'm also not about to debate that.
Otira, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Blast from the past there! Wasn't that the NP?
Otira, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
I am the state, and I speak for the Party. The Party says WORK HARDER!
Otira, Liberated American Provinces, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Yes dadd- I mean sir!
Otira, Viridus, Gagium, Fluvannia, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Oh, you updated the post..
Congrats on successfully predicting the election results for all CP members during the past year :o
Otira, Ulrech, Viridus, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Wait, hold up...
HE'S A DEMON!!
Otira, Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Don't tell him but that's when the dispatch was posted. At the bottom it says it was edited 2 days and 18 hours ago. lol
This is rich.
Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Hell yeah it was!
Otira, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Hindiabelanda
Oh lmao thats my bad...also its still rather out of date...they only updated the positions...Im still listed as Party Vice Chair
Otira, Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
May I suggest a regional poll - since I think good humour and pleasantness has returned - for us to entertain ourselves with?
If you *had* to pick a Democratic candidate for President of the United States, which would you pick?
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Bernard Sanders.
Otira, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Ibenta, Hindiabelanda
I love watching people argue and fight. its funny as hell.
Otira, Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
I personally like the freedom of speech.
I am also a libertarian.
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
No
Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Bernie Bros unite
Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Ibenta, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
No, Socialist
Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda
I'll be real. I went to quote you, forgot my admin privileges and almost suppressed. That'll be an awkward button to get used to...
No Bernie Bros...That was all.
Viridus, Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Mietkael, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda
Pauline Hanson
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
When did you come to the fcn
Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
I think that I should have a livelihood and attend college
I am a Conservative that cares about the Environment
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Aglonia, Hindiabelanda
Hey guys... first post on this in a while... See a bunch of new faces here and on the discord. Hello to all newcomers!!! Hope you are enjoying the FCN as much as I have!
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, West Phoenicia, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda
BERNIE 2020
Gagium, Dragons Of Power, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda
A month ago
Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Tulsi. She and Yang are the only ones that still have their souls.
Otira, Liberated American Provinces, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Hindiabelanda
Imagine not voting for Bernie over Trump couldnt be me
Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Emerisis, Hindiabelanda
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