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Region: Federation of Conservative Nations
Thanks for the kinda well-fought run, considering that you didn't campaign (and that the person who did, did a poor job at it). Use these next 3 months to try to build up your reputation in the region and try to work on your writing abilities for the Senate. Then, if you're still interested, you could probably get a stronger campaign going in January (Jeez, I can't believe that the next election is already going to be in 2019)
Creeperopolis, New Waldensia, Gagium, Coastal English Districts, Eldrado, Juterium, Lalop, Jus
What's the primary time zone for the region?
Gagium
Well the Election opened at 12pm Central so, i assume then?
Gagium, Jus
Congratulations on reelection Viridus!!
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Libervalley, Coastal English Districts, Rivine, Jus
I wanted to support you man, but as I said before, I didn't believe you were qualified. Furthermore, I did not like how Lalop campaigned for you and next time you should be more active in your own campaign. It's amazing how quickly you have been progressing in influence. I believe you have a bright future in regional politics.
Creeperopolis, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium
Posted the presidential election poll: https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=130175
Decided to give three options. ;-)
Creeperopolis, Viridus, Gagium, Jus
Everything about the Bamgo-Lalop campaign seemed kind of opportunistic and insincere to me
Viridus, Gagium, Jus
5 days ago: The National Republican Party relocated from Right to Life to Federation of Conservative Nations.
1 day 7 hours ago: Adolfostan relocated from New American Empire to Federation of Conservative Nations.
There were 2 invalid virus votes for the election.
Final total was 18-10.
Pretty good conspiring the cp betrayed their person.
Viridus, Gagium
Theyre obliged to vote for whoever they think is the better candidate, and they certainly didnt think it was Bamgo. The elections over, stop the whining. Why do you care so much if Viridus won and Bamgo lost?
Creeperopolis, New Waldensia, Viridus, Freezic Vast, Eldrado, Jus
Even if two votes were invalid, Viridus still won.
Creeperopolis, Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado
Finally got a third party in there. Given the two other votes were New Waldensia and New Waldensia. Now I don't have to vote for the lesser of two evils. The third party candidate, New Waldensia is the future of this region.
Creeperopolis, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Coastal English Districts, Eldrado
I know just pointing it out in case we keep records of vote totals.
Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado
If they decided to join the party and decided to benefit from it it is their duty to support their parties lawfully elected represented.
Gagium
Im running for president in januray providing New Waldensian does not run for re election.
I support him though if he does.
Gagium, Jus
cough-less opportunistic then Santioinio was in the UAS cough.
When he refused to reconize parties,refused to put a law that had majority suport up for vote. Used the founder to threaten us. Tried to change the consi so he could run for a third term.
Gagium
I didn't see any presidential debates, so what are the platforms for the other candidates?
Besides the fact they are all in the same party and this is clearly a fascist takeover. /s
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium
Good luck, but you should probably find a campaign advisor
Viridus, Gagium
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Democracy doesnt always go your way, hence its called DEMOCRACY! Demo= Many Cracy= Rule, meaning that its what everyone wants, not just you
Gagium, Eldrado
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Hello citizens of the FCN!!!!
I have updated the map and am currently taking requests for second plots. Please telegram me if you wish to claim something.
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=libervalley/detail=factbook/id=1062107
Creeperopolis, Viridus, Gagium, Rivine, Eldrado
Actually... I just looked at the poll... please tell me thats a joke
Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado
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I was doing one at a time so it is fair for everyone but thanks.
Gagium
Can we do a roleplay with the new regional map when it's complete?
Gagium
It is a joke. I beat the only other candidate for President in the Conservative Party primary, so this is a formality.
Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado, Jus
Non-sequitur. Bamgo just didn't have a leg to stand on here.
First, you did all his campaigning for him. Doesn't instill confidence in his abilities if he can't campaign for himself
Second, the whole campaign was "freedom and libertarianism," ignoring that no actual reason was given for why the people should think Bamgo was in any way qualified, especially when his rival happened to be a senior government member with experience and a reputation.
Thirdly, the whole campaign revolved around the idea that Viridus taking some authoritarian positions on social issues is bad, even though you proposed a commendation for a group of raiders based on glorification of an authoritarian dictatorship.
Viridus, Gagium, Jus
what happens if New Waldensia ties with New Waldensia and New Waldensia?
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Coastal English Districts, Rivine, Eldrado
I voted for New Waldensia, if you voted for New Waldensia you are a fool, only New Waldensia is the true leader!
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Coastal English Districts, Eldrado, Jus
Somebody please tell me why Adolfostan is here
Please
Gagium
Someone left the window down and he climbed in. Got in the trash too.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium
Last night he had a different flag you know. It was quite interesting
Gagium, Jus
I wonder what flag that was *sarcasm*
Gagium
So if Waldensia of Earth-3 is elected, does that mean that Waldensias of Earth-1 and Earth-2 get wiped retroactively from existence?
Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado, Jus
Mostly the American flag but the interesting part was where the 50 stars should have been
Viridus, Gagium, Jus
I wonder if he's one those Nazis that lack self-awareness and complains about socialism.
Most likely he's just 14 year old edgelord tbh
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium
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I believe a requirement is YOU SPEAK DAMN ENGLISH
Viridus, Gagium
It is their duty to vote for the best candidate, considering that their only options were you and Bamgo in their primaries, it's not surprising that they wouldn't vote for the CP candidate. Also, this is kinda why I called you partisan, just because they're in the same party doesn't mean that you have to support them
Gagium, Freezic Vast, Turghan
seriously, English isn't even my first language, Cajun French is, but I speak better than you for God's sake.
Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado, Jus
Another 38 messages? Agh
Creeperopolis, New Waldensia, Viridus, Coastal English Districts, Eldrado, Jus
So you believe that people shouldnt be in the CP if they arent going to 100% support and vote for their partys candidate, even if they are inactive during elections, dont campaign, and have someone else do a rather bad job at campaigning for them?
Creeperopolis, Viridus, Jus, Bamgo
Cajun French is your first language? Isn't that rare nowadays?
New Waldensia, Gagium, Eldrado, Lalop
Correction: It's actually that you contact the Sec of Interior before the elections are set up
New Waldensia, Gagium
And he never did.
Viridus, Gagium
Its common sense not partisanship.
There is no point of being in a party if you won't vote for who your party put up.
Gagium
How do you join a party?
Viridus, Gagium, Eldrado
You would typically ask the Party's chairman
Gagium, Eldrado
It's common sense to vote for the best candidate, there's no point in voting for the party instead of the candidate themselves
Creeperopolis, New Waldensia, Gagium
Uh...
Well, you see, in the FCN, most people join political parties because:
1. They agree with the party platform and think it is better than the other parties' platforms
2. They want to make the region a better place and get involved by joining a political party
3. They like the members of the party and want to support them
Nobody is obligated to vote with their party in elections if they genuinely feel another candidate is better, Mr. Libertarian. Do you believe that whoever is in the CP currently and didn't vote for Bamgo doesn't belong in the CP?
Viridus, Freezic Vast
https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_empire_of_conservative_nations
https://www.nationstates.net/region=federated_states_of_conservative_nations
What's with all these new 'XX of conservative nations' regions lately? Heh
New Waldensia, Viridus
^^^ This. I can't believe that a supposed libertarian who's whole campaign against me was me being "against civil liberties" would even say that
Gagium, Freezic Vast
Ask the party chairman.
You can find them in the political party factboock.
Gagium
I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say. People should be allowed to vote for whoever they wish. But there is no point in being in a party if you don't support it.
Viridus, Gagium
But just being a part of the party is supporting it, just not supporting a candidate that for whichever reason you might not like for the specific job
Gagium
I know no one is obligated to vote for someone. That would be crazy. To answer the other question yes I do believe that whoever is in the CP currently and didn't vote for Bamgo doesn't belong in the CP, because they are not supporting the parties elected representative, that is the point of being in a pp. But they should not be kicked.
Gagium
Considering that the whole party didn't vote for their joke candidate, oof
Gagium
Joke.
It was relatively close-18-10.
By no means a joke.
Gagium
The people that voted for him were legit either a commie or one of your libertarian friends. Bamgo might as well have been the Tea Party candidate
Gagium
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery?
Viridus, Gagium
Bluefarst voted for him. Calling him a commie or a libertarian is crazy....
Viridus
But I agree with you he may as well have been the TPG candaite because we were the party that loyally supported him unlike the party that acutely nominated him, the CP.
Gagium
He seems a little misinformed, I don't mind him not liking me, but voting for his political enemies is a little weird
Gagium, Lalop
The CP only nominated him because you and him were the only people that wanted to do it, not because they thought he was good, lol
cough-He prob voted because he was salty that you wont let him run cough-
Gagium
Not sure if you already knew this but there was only 3 votes in the primaries. Me,Bamgo and Libervally. The CP is dead lol.
Viridus, Gagium
Hmm? I'm not involved in that, it's his problem if he forgot to say that he was running and didn't even campaign
Gagium
lol, I had no idea, where was the CP?????
Gagium
You sort of have to file your campaign before you run?
Viridus, Lalop
Probably didn't want to vote for either of them... -whistles-
Creeperopolis, Viridus
Lol, it wasn't gonna matter anyway. I would be surprised if he passed 3 votes if he was running.
Gagium
Run yourself then.
Gagium
I don't blame you, but it is weird that Lalop would call the CP traitors when the primaries were only decided by 3 people (not to mention that 2 of them were the actual nominees)
Gagium, Jus
-cough totally did not run in the CP primary just to try to get CP support in the election cough-
Gagium
"Yeah, let's be partisan and vote for a dude that we have no confidence in at all :)"
Creeperopolis, Gagium, Jus
I think the point is moot anyway, the fact that no regular member who was not a nominee voted shows that there declining in power.
Viridus, Gagium
I'm too tired to... -yawn-
Creeperopolis, Viridus
With every passing RMB message, more roleplay posts get buried..
Would anyone mind the roleplay getting moved to the discord? -Thinking-
Creeperopolis, Washingtonian Republic, Lalop
It needs to be moved to discord ASAP if you ask me.
Creeperopolis, Gagium
No, just pay more attention, you can easily find the posts. Perhaps, you could just post the link of the post on Discord like I'm doing?
Creeperopolis, Gagium
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Exactly. Search 1910 on the RMB to find RP posts. Also, reminder to include 1910 in RP posts, lol.
Creeperopolis, Viridus, Gagium
Uh... how do you search words on the RMB?
Creeperopolis, Gagium
NationStates++ my dude
Creeperopolis, Washingtonian Republic, Viridus, Jus
Oh, I still refuse to get it, but I have no problems with finding stuff on the RMB
Creeperopolis, Gagium
Totally forgot about NationStates++
Thanks!
Viridus, Gagium
Well, to be fair, I think the purpose of parties is to organize people to be... Well... partisan
Viridus, Gagium, Lalop, Jus
Aren't you that guy who joined the CP just to give yourself a better chance at winning the election?
Viridus, Gagium
https://www.nationstates.net/page=display_region_rmb/region=federation_of_conservative_nation
Top left side, little magnifying glass with the word "Search"
Viridus, Gagium
Exactly, that is what it was like in the UAS if you could remember
"Region Not Found" But thanks if it works, lol
Creeperopolis
See, this seems very opportunistic to me. On the one hand it's all "Every man his own king" or something, and on the other, you are promoting a collectivist mentality wherein voters do not vote independently for whom they think is the best, but rather mindlessly support "their" candidate just because he's theirs.
Now, I am aware that a democracy with a multitude of parties encourages this sort of basic tribalism over meritocracy or independent thought, but I thought that libertarians were supposed to be radically individualistic and openly admitting or advocating it should sort of go against your belief system.
Washingtonian Republic, Viridus
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