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Region: Federation of Conservative Nations
tfw you realize today is the 26th not the 27th. O O F. Sorry
Viridus
Libervalley for President
Check out my page and don't forget to vote!
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=997744
Gagium
^ no
Viridus, Gagium, Trenado, Lermant
no
Gagium
Libervalley Post
Economic News
As of March 26, 2018 no other nation in the Federation Of Conservative Nations beats Libervalley in both lifespan and average disposable income. Up until that date Zhukhistan had a higher disposable income and lifespan however that is now no longer the case since Libervalley's average disposable income surpassed Zhukhistan. Unlike any other nation in the region Libervalley has successfully been able to maintain a high lifespan, increase income, lower taxes and rebuild the military. Employment, Human Development and intelligence are at record highs. Also, the growing scientific advancement and information technology industry has broken into the top 10% of the world while the beef-based agriculture has been in the top 1,000 largest agriculture industries for over 3 months.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium
NS stats >:((
Managing NS stats is an art form. You have to know, live and breath NationStates. lol
Viridus
Uh... https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/351805052924461076/428304116620591114/unknown.png?width=400&height=254
Gagium
What?
Viridus, Gagium
FCN Conservative Party Presidential Primary:
Incumbent President Libervalley defeats sitting Secretary of Internal Affairs Gagium. As runner-up, Gagium becomes the Vice Presidential nominee.
The Conservative Party's official ticket is Libervalley for President, Gagium for Vice President.
Prussian Polish Commonwealth
legit the only people that voted against me were you and libervalley
New Waldensia, Libervalley, Prussian Polish Commonwealth
nibbervalley for president? no
Gagium, Libervalley, Prussian Polish Commonwealth
>nibbervalley
>president
how about no
Gagium, Trenado
^^
FCN Election Commission
Official Ballot 2018
President
[Conservative] Libervalley
[Nationalist] Washingtonian Republic
[Independent Conservative] Gagium
Speaker
[Liberty & Order] Colorado-Kansas
The April 2018 Filing process is over, happy campaigning.
Washingtonian Republic, Viridus, Gagium, Prussian Polish Commonwealth
Washington Republic for president
Viridus
The valiant forces of the FCN have capture and made a permanent trophy of Socialists For A New World!
Thanks to the following troops: New Waldensia, Battlefleet Retaliation, Gagium, Libervalley, Pro Life-2017, and Lermant.
Viridus
Wow.
Good evening.
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium
Afternoon, gov'nah
Washingtonian Republic, New Waldensia, Imperial-America
Only one person running for Speaker though? Heh.
Gagium
not me my dude? ooof
Viridus, Trenado
Definitely not Libervalley though, lol
Gagium, Trenado
I have a feeling that Libervalley and Gagium will split the vote, allowing Washingtonian Republic to squeeze by for the win.
Washingtonian Republic, Viridus
I thought it was that Washingtonian Repub. and me will split the vote, allowing for Libervalley to win
Or will libervalley and washingtonian rep split the vote and allow me to win?
Washingtonian Republic, New Waldensia
Really just depends on how the L&O vote
Washingtonian Republic, Gagium
Washingtonian Republic, Viridus, Gagium, Trenado
Are there diplomats here?
Viridus, Gagium
true sadly
oof
No? Maybe?
Viridus, Gagium
Ehhhh, sorta
Viridus
I could do something like that.
Gagium
You'd have to bring that up with the WA delegate, tho I think you'd most likely need discord
Viridus
I have a discord.
Gagium
What is the point of a primary if you can just run as an independent after? Kind of defeats the purpose of a primary. That is bs.
New Waldensia, Viridus
There should be legislation that if you run in a party primary you can't run as an independent in the general election.
New Waldensia
k
Are you NecroAmerican?
Gagium
Yessir.
Washingtonian Republic, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Trenado
Exposed af
Viridus, Trenado
lel
Welcome to the FCN, New Andre!
Viridus, Gagium, Libervalley, Trenado
Welcome to the region!
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium
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https://www.nationstates.net/region=worldly_debate_region[/spoiler]
Gagium
President Libervalley has lead this region, uninterested in the office he holds and the Region he represents.
"I am an adult and have other responsibilities. The responsibilities given to the president does not require a lot of time..."
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/426205250618130432/429001169873141761/Screenshot_2018-03-07_at_11.53.10_AM.png
"When I talk to my Russian bae more than I post on the RMB."
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/426205250618130432/429001133332103171/unknown.png
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Libervalley is un-conservative and doesn't represent the ideology our region is based off of.
Classified as a Left-Leaning College State.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/426205250618130432/429006090219552769/unknown.png
'Well, Trump screwed up........ Now we are screwed."
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/426205250618130432/429001501734862848/Screenshot_2018-03-24_at_9.46.22_AM.png
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Libervalley isn't looking out for the interests of you, the people!
Vetoing the impeachment of a WA Delegate who failed to represent you in the WA.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/426205250618130432/429002435923542016/Screenshot_2018-03-29_at_2.41.49_PM.png
Voting for an inactive nation to somehow represent you better than Dobby, even against the choices of his party.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/426205250618130432/429004951101112331/unknown.png
And now proposing a bill that will effectively remove parts of your electoral freedom!
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/426205250618130432/429002432488407061/Screenshot_2018-03-29_at_2.41.22_PM.png
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Citizens, make the right choice on election day! #DumpLibervalley #RepresentMe!
Viridus
Game on!
Washingtonian Republic, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium
"$&*!, still getting used to the new laws. I added some laws to the library without posting them here first."
Bypassing the presidential office to create law. Can we trust him with a new constitution if he can't fallow his duty now?
Washingtonian Republic, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium
Thing is that was one mistake that didn't change anything, the laws I forgot to add were never used or broken in the meantime... I'm also not the leader of this region.
Viridus, Gagium
Viridus, Gagium
Bring it on.
But refuting my first argument with a tu quoque fallacy shows you don't have a defense, so keep in in mind I have the high ground.
Viridus, Gagium
Ooooooh..... negative campaigning and mudslinging already!
Should be an interesting campaign cycle. ;-)
Viridus, Gagium
Indeed. Gonna have to get my popcorn out for this election
New Waldensia, Viridus
They're not even running for the same office
Washingtonian Republic, New Waldensia
To all citizens and residents of the Federation:
You can now keep track of laws passed in the region, whether you're in the regional discord or not, senate or not. Me and Speaker Colorado-Kansas have created a trello to keep track of laws passed, as well as senators, easier. The trello also has a version of the constitution, and all laws passed since the new constitution. You can view it here:
https://trello.com/b/HCIuSmHd/senate-of-the-fcn
-Sec of Internal Affairs Gagium
Washingtonian Republic, New Waldensia
The Libervalley campaign for president is being suspended. It puts full support behind Gagium for president.Libervalley will now declare a campaign for senate speaker!
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium
NOTE: Libervalley shall be allowed to run in this election, as the 'filing date' is not official in any written or passed document, law, or the constitution.
New Waldensia, Viridus
It's March 28th... Sunday is April Fools...
[I]* * crosses fingers, hoping for N-Day³ * *
Washingtonian Republic, Viridus, Gagium, Prussian Polish Commonwealth
Kind of bad timing because it is Easter.
The ultimate April fools. Rising from the dead.
Washingtonian Republic, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Prussian Polish Commonwealth
>Be Libervalley
>Get Roasted by CK
>Try use bad argument to fight back
>Be called out on your logical fallacies
>Triggered af
>Drop out of Presidential race against two people that would split their bases, even in an IRV race, to challenge me; lol
>tfw you just proved to the region your motives are less for your constituents and more for personal and selfish gain; kek
Challenge accepted.
Viridus, Gagium, Trenado, Lermant, Prussian Polish Commonwealth
>Be CK
>Apparently be unable to give arguments based on vision and ideas
>Only tactic is to use irrelevant side issues
>Thinks he won
;-)
Viridus, Gagium, Libervalley
Wow more propaganda from Senator Palpatine CK.
You have run rough shot over the senate long enough. It is time to return it to the people. The best thing that will serve the people is removing you from speakership.
Libervalley Exposed!!!!!1!!!
Viridus
Gonna be neutral in this dank rmb political war
New Waldensia, Viridus, Prussian Polish Commonwealth
me too
New Waldensia, Gagium
You want arguments based on visions and ideas?
Vote for me because I have been an active incumbent Senate Speaker, and then some. I have stood up for the little guy and have stayed committed to protecting the freedom, liberty, and safety of each and every person here! I have tried to stay on task and though having a few slip ups I've always delivered.
This is as while Libervalley has literally pushed an agenda of disregard and selfishness with proposed acts such as the Double Primary Act which would remove the freedom of citizens to exercise what they believe is right, by running as an Independent if they ran in a party primary. This would be a clear abuse of Civil Rights if passed! I don't think Libervalley would of introduced this act if Gagium didn't seek the presidency as an Independent; and believe me, if such a conflict happened in the NP or L&O this President wouldn't of cared. Another example, he vetoed the Impeachment of Dobrobyt with was almost universally accepted by the Senate, passed 10 to 1. He did this while Dobrobyt served as a dangerous WA delegate who seemed to have no care for this Region or it's people. Finally he barely has the time to be President it seems, only coming online at night, when my position requires to be online at more flexible times.
Yeah, in the end, you either have me leading the legislative body, someone who cares and wants what's best for this region. Or someone who doesn't care for you and is only running to win it seems. So New Waldensia before you're quick to say something like "Apparently be unable to give arguments based on vision and ideas." how bout you just wait and see. I hope you take in account Libervally's major shortfalls on election day
Viridus
Palpatine CK's understanding of politics....
>Claims to be conservative yet is an anarchist that is the largest outlier compared to everyone else in the region.
>Thinks calling out Trump's non-conservative actions is being non-conservative.
>Flip flops on issues trying to be a libertarian and a nationalist at the same time.
>Disagrees with someone's vote that didn't break any laws and impeaches them instead of waiting for the next election.
>Thinks creating election rules that is consistent for everyone is unfair.
>Resorts to editing text to spread fake news.
New Waldensia, Viridus
My goals as speaker..
- Pass election reform laws that creates guidelines for open and fair elections in the Federation.
- Pass senate reforms that create rules of the senate to be more efficient and productive.
- Create open and free debate/votes which can not lead to impeachment when no law is broken.
Anarchism is different than libertarianism
Lol, NW calls out me for being unable to give arguments based on vision and ideas and my only tactic being to use irrelevant side issues
Libervalley:
Calls me Palpatine, an Anarchist, says I can't be libertarian with a small tad of "America First" Nationalism mixed in, and reverses my points and claims was the one fighting for the betterment of the people. There is a double standard in the region everyone. Lol, i'm literally laughing right now.
Edit: Wait, i'm an anarchist? Yet I flip flop between statist Libertarianism and Nationalism??
Viridus, Prussian Polish Commonwealth
dank
Gagium
Palpatine CK impeached a sitting WA delegate for unimpeachable offences purposely avoiding the upcoming election and purposely abusing the power of the senate.
>He runs his country as an anarchist
>his campaign as a libertarian
>and runs the senate like a Palpatine Nationalist
Which one is he?
New Waldensia
Not arguments based on vision and ideas and using tactics of irrelevant side issues. Listen to your own party member's bogus criticism of me.
Palpatine CK impeached a sitting WA delegate for unimpeachable offences purposely avoiding the upcoming election and purposely abusing the power of the senate- Anyone can be impeached according to law. Dobrobyt was a loose bolt who didn't represent this region or it's people, he was inactive which is dangerous.
>He runs his country as an anarchist - I used this argument against you earlier because you're an NS stats user, which means you actually tried and became a Left-Leaning college state, really saying something about your politics. I don't care about my country so why does it matter, it's not effecting anyone. C-K bar far doesn't even represent my political beliefs. Why am I responding this is very irrelevant.
>his campaign as a libertarian - I'm a Paleolibertarian, I believe we should mix Conservative views with Libertarian views and get something that promotes Free Market Capitalism while also protecting the life and liberty of everyone, in my case unborn or not. I did this as President, I've done this as speaker.
>and runs the senate like a Palpatine Nationalist- I didn't know that there was a Nationalist way of submitting seconded bills to the voting chamber, putting passed bills on the President's desk, and maybe writing a short essay on the Regional holiday that takes place tomorrow and why we celebrate it... Ayy! There's that irrelevant Palpatine reference again!
Which one is he? - You're loosing your marbles, let's stick to the issues.
Like I said...
Vote for me because I have been an active incumbent Senate Speaker, and then some. I have stood up for the little guy and have stayed committed to protecting the freedom, liberty, and safety of each and every person here! I have tried to stay on task and though having a few slip ups I've always delivered without issue.
Prussian Polish Commonwealth
ikr, this whole argument is becoming such a dank meme
New Waldensia
Summary of last night's debate.
CK: (witty argument)
NW: "You have no real points or ideas, you only use irrelevant side issues."
CK: (valid argument)
LV: "CK is Palpatine! He's clearly an anarchist and he supports libertarian and nationalist ideas!"
Viridus, Trenado, Prussian Polish Commonwealth
Respond in kind kek
Gagium
But if New Waldensia says so, then it must be true!
Washingtonian Republic, New Waldensia, Gagium, Prussian Polish Commonwealth
Freedoms safest place.
Gagium
what if new waldensia says "socialism works"
Washingtonian Republic, Viridus, Gagium, Prussian Polish Commonwealth
NW is God
Viridus, Gagium
Paradox af
Washingtonian Republic, Viridus, Trenado
Silva said "socialism works" along with your former president
k
Washingtonian Republic
Actually, with all this talk of Socialism, i'd like to introduce you all to a better ideology. I call it National-Libertarian Anarchism, you should all join me in practicing it.
Washingtonian Republic, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Trenado
I practice something similar... National Conservatism
New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium, Trenado
I practice something similar... Libertarian Conservatism
Washingtonian Republic, Viridus, Gagium
Ya'll are all wrong. National-Libertarian Anarchism is a thing. Libervalley says so.
Washingtonian Republic, Viridus, Gagium, Prussian Polish Commonwealth
Economic Freedom is rising in Libervalley once again!
Washingtonian Republic, New Waldensia, Viridus, Gagium
ns stats
Washingtonian Republic, Viridus, Gagium, Prussian Polish Commonwealth
>NS stats
Washingtonian Republic, Viridus, Gagium, Trenado
ns stats
Washingtonian Republic, Viridus, Trenado, Prussian Polish Commonwealth
no u
Gagium
yes him? oooof
New Waldensia
CCN has 136 RMB pages. We have 132.
#catchingup
#halftheageastheccn
Viridus, Gagium
CCN's also triple gay and unrelated to us because we cut off diplomatic relations with them
Libervalley
Concerning the State Security Act of 2018
The Domestic Security Agency is on the template for the upcoming April elections; the department itself has been laid down and described in the resolution passed by the FCN Senate, the only concern is the bills enforcement. As stated, the DSA Director is appointed by the President as a cabinet member, charged with carrying out homeland security against threats of domestic and abroad. Id advise fellow cabinet and senatorial members to converse regarding the implementation of the State Security Act.
Sincerely
Please telegram if you have questions
Viridus
congrats, you just renamed the sec of interior DSA director (???)
Washingtonian Republic, Viridus
It's more than that
Viridus, Gagium
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