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Lave Deldederady wrote:I agree, I think our Head of Government once elected should create a Ministry of Foreign affairs. Inner Kilvaka, thoughts?

I like that idea, that helps keep us strong and in good standing with other regions.

Wert, Rainbowstaria, Lave Deldederady

Weird, I thought I was supposed to spawn in one of the pacifics, just like that YouTube video.

Wert

Twajiania-Asfa wrote:Weird, I thought I was supposed to spawn in one of the pacifics, just like that YouTube video.

Frontier update

BTW old af videos weirdlly nostalgic aswell

Wert, Lave Deldederady

Being a legislator sounds exciting! I have some experience from my student govt times

Wert, Inner Kilvaka

Greater Chicati wrote:Being a legislator sounds exciting! I have some experience from my student govt times

cool everyone wants to be one

#RainbowstariaforLegislator

Wert

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1870290

Why you should vote for us

#RainbowstariaforLegislator

Upvote to show your approval!

Post by Laosball suppressed by Lave Deldederady.

Laosball

WHAT DO LEGESTLATOR DO?

Laosball please do not yell in all caps.

For you, and others here, please read the constitution: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1869232

Wert

Lave Deldederady wrote:Laosball please do not yell in all caps.

For you, and others here, please read the constitution: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1869232

All caps isnt Even breaking that much of the rules friend

Although yes i do suggest reading the constitutuion

😉

Post by Laosball suppressed by Lave Deldederady.

Laosball

Rainbowstaria wrote:All caps isnt Even breaking that much of the rules friend

Although yes i do suggest reading the constitutuion

😉

WHEN WAS THIS MADE?! q

Laosball wrote:Very nonsencical post

What?

Now that 2 times what's next 3?

Laosball

Rainbowstaria wrote:What?

Now that 2 times what's next 3?

I DIDNT USE ALL CAPS THOUGH! g

Laosball final warning. Stop spamming in all caps.

Rainbowstaria

Lave Deldederady wrote:Laosball final warning. Stop spamming in all caps.

sorry

Wert, Rainbowstaria, Lave Deldederady

Since we're officially in the "campaign speeches" phase of the election, I'd like to take a moment and point you to my own speech.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1870305

To summarize, I believe that, having already authored legislature for the purpose of strengthening Greater Sahara, I am the best choice to represent the people and to strengthen our region as a legislator.

Lave Deldederady

Inner Kilvaka wrote:Big announcement today!

First, I'd like to announce The Elections Act, which has just been agreed upon by a majority consensus over Discord (which can be found here: https://discord.gg/Ep5ypcB6) and will define how this and future elections take place.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1870199

Under the Elections Act, candidates will be decided on by a first-past-the-post election held by the World Assembly Delegate. For security reasons, all voters and candidates must be in the World Assembly for their votes to count/to be eligible for office, respectively.

Second, I am announcing my candidacy for one of the seats in legislature. I believe that my track record of writing policy and legislature for the region make me an ideal candidate, and I would really appreciate your support!

Third and finally, under the same Elections Act that I just now posted, I am returning to the World Assembly so that I am eligible for office. While I still have my gripes with the World Assembly and how it is run, I believe that I can do more good for the region if I take the bad alongside the good that being in the World Assembly entails in order to continue to write legislature for the Greater Sahara.

Thank you for your support, and I hope to see you in the ballot boxes!

Nah, you shouldnt get to just pass laws in the discord, when most people aren’t in the discord and many can’t use it, and right now you have no power to begin with.

Additionally, locking membership behind WA is dumb imo, because that already all,it’s for the delegate which has a lot of power. Legislators should be a non-WA position to give it more distinction.

Passing laws prior to our election should require a referendum.

Is My speech any better?

Acornesia

Acornesia wrote:No no, you don’t get to just pass laws I the discord, when barely anyone is I the discord, and you have no power to begin with. Additionally, locking membership behind WA is stupid, because that already all,it’s for the delegate which has a lot of power. Legislators should be a non-WA position to give it more distinction.

I'm afraid these decisions have already been confirmed by the Wert, our World Assembly Delegate. Until we have legislators, which is what the laws we passed enable in the first place, that is the highest authority in the land. The discord is open to all, and we make no secret of it - it's in our region's factbook entry plain as day. As for the passing of laws requiring a referendum, a referendum of whom? As I said, the World Assembly Delegate has signed off on all the legislation currently in effect. That is the supreme right of the delegate, and none other, unless laws to the contrary are passed. Otherwise, how would those laws be passed in the first place?

Rainbowstaria, Lave Deldederady

Inner Kilvaka wrote:I'm afraid these decisions have already been confirmed by the Wert, our World Assembly Delegate. Until we have legislators, which is what the laws we passed enable in the first place, that is the highest authority in the land. The discord is open to all, and we make no secret of it - it's in our region's factbook entry plain as day. As for the passing of laws requiring a referendum, a referendum of whom? As I said, the World Assembly Delegate has signed off on all the legislation currently in effect. That is the supreme right of the delegate, and none other, unless laws to the contrary are passed.

True, the delegate has executive authority right now, but I’m protesting this since it’s discord exclusive. Wert has in the past agreed that laws should not be passed in the discord.

Rainbowstaria

Inner Kilvaka wrote:I'm afraid these decisions have already been confirmed by the Wert, our World Assembly Delegate. Until we have legislators, which is what the laws we passed enable in the first place, that is the highest authority in the land. The discord is open to all, and we make no secret of it - it's in our region's factbook entry plain as day. As for the passing of laws requiring a referendum, a referendum of whom? As I said, the World Assembly Delegate has signed off on all the legislation currently in effect. That is the supreme right of the delegate, and none other, unless laws to the contrary are passed.

That is true we did talk about that in the discord wich a shame we didnt inform outsiders about the update

Discord=less Members=less information=misunderstandings

Also, first past the post is a clearly flawed system, why are we going with that?

Wert

Acornesia wrote:Also, first past the post is a clearly flawed system, why are we going with that?

My idea - which may not have been too good itself, but I think it’s better - is that every single legislator candidate would be put on the poll or whatever we’re hosting the vote with, and the top 2 in terms of number of votes become legislators, while the third is picked by the delegate.

Rainbowstaria

Acornesia wrote:Also, first past the post is a clearly flawed system, why are we going with that?

Because our priority right now is not to take a year to develop a perfect system, but to put a good enough system in place as fast as possible so that we are secure and stable while we fix the problems.

Many of the problems you've identified are already on the floor to be addressed as soon as the council convenes - but that requires a council to convene. Until we have enough scaffolding in place to get that council, we cannot do anything.

Acornesia, Wert, Rainbowstaria

Inner Kilvaka wrote:Because our priority right now is not to take a year to develop a perfect system, but to put a good enough system in place as fast as possible so that we are secure and stable while we fix the problems.

Many of the problems you've identified are already on the floor to be addressed as soon as the council convenes - but that requires a council to convene. Until we have enough scaffolding in place to get that council, we cannot do anything.

You don’t need to brainstorm a perfect system, but you don’t need to use the clearly worst system just because “we need to get a government”, either.

Wert, Rainbowstaria

Acornesia wrote:My idea - which may not have been too good itself, but I think it’s better - is that every single legislator candidate would be put on the poll or whatever we’re hosting the vote with, and the top 2 in terms of number of votes become legislators, while the third is picked by the delegate.

Then you will be delighted to learn that that is in fact exactly what is being done.

I recognize that this is not a perfect system right now - I have never shied away from that fact. But what it is is enough of a system that it gives us the tools to build a better one.

Acornesia

Inner Kilvaka wrote:Then you will be delighted to learn that that is in fact exactly what is being done.

I recognize that this is not a perfect system right now - I have never shied away from that fact. But what it is is enough of a system that it gives us the tools to build a better one.

Oh, well then yes I am delighted. That wasn’t clear to me.

Inner Kilvaka

Acornesia wrote:You don’t need to brainstorm a perfect system, but you don’t need to use the clearly worst system just because “we need to get a government”, either.

The main reason that First Past the Post is considered a flawed system is that it encourages the development of a two-party system over time. But this is a one-off - a jump start to the region's government. There is no "over time" to worry about, because the next time term lengths are up, we will have had the time to implement something better.

Acornesia

Hey come on guys this is getting out of hand

Don't escalate that much

I don't like seeing You guys fight☹️

Acornesia

Rainbowstaria wrote:Hey come on guys this is getting out of hand

Don't escalate that much

I don't like seeing You guys fight☹️

We aren’t fighting, we’re just discussing the future of the region.

I was just uncomfortable with the law being passed in discord, not really the law itself.

Rainbowstaria, Inner Kilvaka

Acornesia wrote:Oh, well then yes I am delighted. That wasn’t clear to me.

I'm glad to hear it. As always, if you have any input on changes you'd like to see, please let me know. I recognize that discord isn't the most accessible option to everyone - believe it or not (and I know you have reason not to, given that for all you know this could be campaign grift) but that, and the issue of the current election system, are both scheduled to be on the floor as soon as the legislative branch convenes.

Acornesia, Wert, Rainbowstaria

Alright I’m going to head to sleep. Goodnight!

Wert, Rainbowstaria, Inner Kilvaka

Thank you all for electing me delegate, I will have a larger speech soon. If anyone has questions, comments, or concerns feel free to telegram my nation or mention me in the discord.

Lave Deldederady wrote:Thank you all for electing me delegate, I will have a larger speech soon. If anyone has questions, comments, or concerns feel free to telegram my nation or mention me in the discord.

you purposelly withdrew endorsement from the previous delegate to go into delegacy and dismissed officers without a particular reason

its not a big deal just to the future delegate generations dont do this.

keep your decency, be competitive but always keep your decency.

My applaud to our new delegate over here.

Acornesia, Wert

To make it clear, I’m running as delegate. If elected, I’ll respect the already made decisions by Wert, I won’t do any crazy stuff there, I’ll continue to oversee legislative elections until we have a stable government, however, I will make sure that less important decisions are made in the Discord without the consultation of the RMB, and I will try to avoid only WA people being eligible to vote in non-WA elections, because then we might as well abolish the entire legislative and just have an all powerful delegate if they’re all gonna be locked behind WA users.

I will also continue the abandoned citizenship programs, and make a specific route to citizenship for all members.

Wert, Stalanup

As you may have no doubt gathered, last night Great Sahara experienced a change in leadership.

To clarify, I have nothing but respect for the former World Assembly Delegate, Wert, and the work that they have done to bring the region to the place it is now. We, as a region, would not be anywhere near where we are without their effort, dedication, and hard work. Regardless, it seems that I have been, literally overnight, thrust into the office of World Assembly Delegate. Though the result of this election is undoubtedly a surprise, it is an election regardless, and I thank my supporters that have chosen me to be the face of Greater Sahara. I have no choice but to acknowledge the court of public opinion, and as such, I would like to announce my formal acceptance of the office of World Assembly Delegate.

That being said, it has been made clear to me that our existence here in the desert is fragile. If we are to remain safe, we must put a renewed focus on the security of our region. After the events of last night, it has become clear to me that if a rapid-fire change of delegate can occur, especially at such a crucial time as our election of legislators, is a risk to the region as a whole.

To mitigate this risk, I am prioritizing the appointance of our legislative branch. This way, we can focus on passing legislature as quickly as possible, in order to best protect this region and its inhabitants. This region should be safe, strong, and fair, and that can only start when we have the means to make it that way. As such, I will be working closely with our elected legislators to ensure that we are doing everything we can to uphold the interests of every single citizen in the Greater Sahara.

Once again, I would like to thank each and every person who has elected me as the regional delegate, and ask everyone in the World Assembly to lend me your endorsements so we can begin to establish stability, security, and order right away.

Wert, Inner Kilvaka

If you gonna run for any office do not run for power run to help build this region and to keep its People happy and safe the election should be about the people not political gain just saying

Lave Deldederady

As par of my security measures I will be issuing two orders until such a time as they can be debated and coded into some form of law:

The first is the creation of Security Officers. I will be appointing security officers to aid me in enforcing endorsement caps and otherwise maintaining peace and security in the region.

The second is the creation of endorsement caps. Security officers may have up to 75% of the endorsements of the delegate, all other world assembly nations may not surpass 50% of the endorsements of the delegate. This will be enforced as necessary. I will be sending out telegrams and using the regional message board to inform those who are over the cap.

Greater Chicati

The following nations are over the endorsement cap:

Acornesia

Wert

Rainbowstaria

Inner Kilvaka

Tyreum

Refusal to abide to the cap will result in security measures being taken to ensure you are under the cap.

Lave Deldederady wrote:As par of my security measures I will be issuing two orders until such a time as they can be debated and coded into some form of law:

The first is the creation of Security Officers. I will be appointing security officers to aid me in enforcing endorsement caps and otherwise maintaining peace and security in the region.

The second is the creation of endorsement caps. Security officers may have up to 75% of the endorsements of the delegate, all other world assembly nations may not surpass 50% of the endorsements of the delegate. This will be enforced as necessary. I will be sending out telegrams and using the regional message board to inform those who are over the cap.

Why we can't surpass 50%

Lave Deldederady wrote:As par of my security measures I will be issuing two orders until such a time as they can be debated and coded into some form of law:

The first is the creation of Security Officers. I will be appointing security officers to aid me in enforcing endorsement caps and otherwise maintaining peace and security in the region.

The second is the creation of endorsement caps. Security officers may have up to 75% of the endorsements of the delegate, all other world assembly nations may not surpass 50% of the endorsements of the delegate. This will be enforced as necessary. I will be sending out telegrams and using the regional message board to inform those who are over the cap.

WOAH WOAH WOAH you cant implement endorsement caps! thats against the constitution! it states that the delegate is decided by the in game mechanics not by elections! and by setting endorsement caps BREAKS THAT LAW

Acornesia

Kabreia wrote:Why we can't surpass 50%

To maintain security until we have a stable government in place, once we have a stable government we can pass laws and further regulate everything. With how quickly I became delegate I realized it is not wise for us to continue to just allow anybody to become delegate. If I had truly wanted I could have banned many of our members already or otherwise hurt the region. We cannot allow that to happen with others who may rise very quickly into the delegate position.

Wert

Wert wrote:WOAH WOAH WOAH you cant implement endorsement caps! thats against the constitution! it states that the delegate is decided by the in game mechanics not by elections! and by setting endorsement caps BREAKS THAT LAW

As delegate I am doing everything in the sake of our security until Congress may convene to discuss it properly, I will not sit idly by and allow foreigners enter the region and seize the delegacy.

You want sole power???

Wert

Lave Deldederady wrote:As delegate I am doing everything in the sake of our security until Congress may convene to discuss it properly, I will not sit idly by and allow foreigners enter the region and seize the delegacy.

THAT DOESNT MEAN YOU CAN VIOLATE THE CONSTITUTION. HOW ARE OTHER PEOPLE SUPPOSED TO GET DELEGATE?? It doesn't matter if you are delegate, no one is above the law

Acornesia

Kabreia wrote:You want sole power???

No. I am simply making sure that invaders/foreigners do not seize the power and attack us until Congress may convene after the election to discuss with me on this matter. I will fully abide by the resolutions of the Legislature as they are representative of the people.

Wert wrote:THAT DOESNT MEAN YOU CAN VIOLATE THE CONSTITUTION. HOW ARE OTHER PEOPLE SUPPOSED TO GET DELEGATE?? It doesn't matter if you are delegate, no one is above the law

We must focus on our security at this moment in time, as I have said within a day we will be able to go back to the constitution as it is written after congress convenes. Also please do not spam caps lock in your messages or I will begin to suppress them for spam.

If "endorsement caps" then you have single handedly become a dictator by preventing others from taking power. i doesnt matter if its for "regional security" violating the constitution is violating the constituion

Acornesia

Wert wrote:If "endorsement caps" then you have single handedly become a dictator by preventing others from taking power. i doesnt matter if its for "regional security" violating the constitution is violating the constituion

(2) The World Assembly Delegate may be any member of the World Assembly, provided that that member has more endorsements than the existing Delegate

(4) The World Assembly Delegate may remain in office for any length of time, provided that no other candidate meeting the requirements under Article 1, Chapter 1, section 2 are met.

Where does it forbid the endorsement cap?

You violating the constitution that is not right the people will not be happy situation like this can cause revolutions

Kabreia wrote:You violating the constitution that is not right the people will not be happy situation like this can cause revolutions

Where have I violated anything? See my message right above yours.

Lave Deldederady wrote:(2) The World Assembly Delegate may be any member of the World Assembly, provided that that member has more endorsements than the existing Delegate

(4) The World Assembly Delegate may remain in office for any length of time, provided that no other candidate meeting the requirements under Article 1, Chapter 1, section 2 are met.

Where does it forbid the endorsement cap?

we talked about making it election by IN GAME mechanics, endorsements caps prevent that if a single person is kicked, ESPCALLY an important one, then i cannot support your delegacy and kicking me for that is oppression

Acornesia

you right but don't make it hard to run for office for the people ok

Wert wrote:we talked about making it election by IN GAME mechanics, endorsements caps prevent that if a single person is kicked, ESPCALLY an important one, then i cannot support your delegacy and kicking me for that is oppression

So it's oppression when I become delegate by legal means? I got more endorsements than you. Nothing in the constitution states that I cannot enforce security measures during a time where we are starting our government.

Wert

Lave Deldederady wrote:(2) The World Assembly Delegate may be any member of the World Assembly, provided that that member has more endorsements than the existing Delegate

(4) The World Assembly Delegate may remain in office for any length of time, provided that no other candidate meeting the requirements under Article 1, Chapter 1, section 2 are met.

Where does it forbid the endorsement cap?

(1) The World Assembly Delegate shall be decided upon using the in-game Endorsement system.

(3) The World Assembly Delegate may be elected at any time, so long as the requirements under Article 1, Chapter 1, paragraph 2 are met

By setting these Endorsement caps, you are preventing a delegate from being elected at any time!

Acornesia

Wert wrote:we talked about making it election by IN GAME mechanics, endorsements caps prevent that if a single person is kicked, ESPCALLY an important one, then i cannot support your delegacy and kicking me for that is oppression

Calm down

Kabreia wrote:you right but don't make it hard to run for office for the people ok

Trust me, I want to keep our elections open and fair to all of our wonderful citizens. My first and foremost concern is our safety as a region, please see me in the discord if you would like to discuss this more at length - I have sent you a friend request.

Lave Deldederady wrote:So it's oppression when I become delegate by legal means? I got more endorsements than you. Nothing in the constitution states that I cannot enforce security measures during a time where we are starting our government.

security measures are fine, but not endorsement caps!

Wert wrote:(1) The World Assembly Delegate shall be decided upon using the in-game Endorsement system.

(3) The World Assembly Delegate may be elected at any time, so long as the requirements under Article 1, Chapter 1, paragraph 2 are met

By setting these Endorsement caps, you are preventing a delegate from being elected at any time!

No, I am improving our security. Legally if a citizen were to become delegate despite these caps it would be legal. There is nothing illegal about my security measures as per our constitution.

I may not support the idea of endorsement caps, but after further discussion I promote Lave Deldederady's delegacy and suggest you all do the same.

Lave Deldederady

I will be considering the best way to hold the congressional election to keep it private. What are everyone's ideas? I think a poll is not right since it isn't private (thus breaking the law). I think telegrams work best otherwise since that way it's private and keeps us from using the discord - I know many people here want to stay on our RMB - or another third party site. I would love to hear everyone's ideas.

Wert

Lave Deldederady wrote:I will be considering the best way to hold the congressional election to keep it private. What are everyone's ideas? I think a poll is not right since it isn't private (thus breaking the law). I think telegrams work best otherwise since that way it's private and keeps us from using the discord - I know many people here want to stay on our RMB - or another third party site. I would love to hear everyone's ideas.

let a random, Non-WA member tally the votes

Wert wrote:let a random, Non-WA member tally the votes

I am not sure I trust a random nation who isn't even an active citizen, to be fair. How would the votes come in, anyway?

Lave Deldederady wrote:I am not sure I trust a random nation who isn't even an active citizen, to be fair. How would the votes come in, anyway?

Telegrams, we would have no reason not to trust them tho, as they arent involved in out government meaning they can show no bias

Wert wrote:Telegrams, we would have no reason not to trust them tho, as they arent involved in out government meaning they can show no bias

But since they aren't an active citizen it could be foreigners interfering.

Also quick side note to the region: If I withdrew my endorsement of you it was either because you were over the cap or because you were not endorsing me. Nothing personal. :)

Lave Deldederady wrote:But since they aren't an active citizen it could be foreigners interfering.

Also quick side note to the region: If I withdrew my endorsement of you it was either because you were over the cap or because you were not endorsing me. Nothing personal. :)

then we could make sure that they were founded in this region

Wert wrote:then we could make sure that they were founded in this region

That doesn't mean it's not a foreigner, anyone can found in this region.

Wert

Post by Acornesia suppressed by Lave Deldederady.

Acornesia

Lave Deldederady wrote:The following nations are over the endorsement cap:

Acornesia

Wert

Rainbowstaria

Inner Kilvaka

Tyreum

Refusal to abide to the cap will result in security measures being taken to ensure you are under the cap.

Of course you add an endorsement cap. You get elected and immediately become a power hungry dictator.

I encourage all of you to withdraw your endorsement of Lave. I can’t believe he’d do something like this.

I have suppressed a message calling for actions to be taken against me, the legal delegate. For security purposes I will not allow my seat to be put under assault. Congress must first be elected and then they will decide on further security concerns.

Acornesia i need to talk to you about something in telegrams rq...

Acornesia, Lave Deldederady

Post by Acornesia suppressed by Lave Deldederady.

Acornesia

Lave Deldederady wrote:As you may have no doubt gathered, last night Great Sahara experienced a change in leadership.

To clarify, I have nothing but respect for the former World Assembly Delegate, Wert, and the work that they have done to bring the region to the place it is now. We, as a region, would not be anywhere near where we are without their effort, dedication, and hard work. Regardless, it seems that I have been, literally overnight, thrust into the office of World Assembly Delegate. Though the result of this election is undoubtedly a surprise, it is an election regardless, and I thank my supporters that have chosen me to be the face of Greater Sahara. I have no choice but to acknowledge the court of public opinion, and as such, I would like to announce my formal acceptance of the office of World Assembly Delegate.

That being said, it has been made clear to me that our existence here in the desert is fragile. If we are to remain safe, we must put a renewed focus on the security of our region. After the events of last night, it has become clear to me that if a rapid-fire change of delegate can occur, especially at such a crucial time as our election of legislators, is a risk to the region as a whole.

To mitigate this risk, I am prioritizing the appointance of our legislative branch. This way, we can focus on passing legislature as quickly as possible, in order to best protect this region and its inhabitants. This region should be safe, strong, and fair, and that can only start when we have the means to make it that way. As such, I will be working closely with our elected legislators to ensure that we are doing everything we can to uphold the interests of every single citizen in the Greater Sahara.

Once again, I would like to thank each and every person who has elected me as the regional delegate, and ask everyone in the World Assembly to lend me your endorsements so we can begin to establish stability, security, and order right away.

“I’m so surprised to have been overnight thrust into this role”

>meanwhile literally endorsing everyone to get their endorsements back and deliberately withdrawing endorsements from Wert and me (your competitors)

Post by Acornesia suppressed by Lave Deldederady.

Acornesia

Wert wrote:WOAH WOAH WOAH you cant implement endorsement caps! thats against the constitution! it states that the delegate is decided by the in game mechanics not by elections! and by setting endorsement caps BREAKS THAT LAW

This is a violation of the constitution.

Post by Acornesia suppressed by Lave Deldederady.

Acornesia

Lave Deldederady wrote:We must focus on our security at this moment in time, as I have said within a day we will be able to go back to the constitution as it is written after congress convenes. Also please do not spam caps lock in your messages or I will begin to suppress them for spam.

You could at least implement endo caps only for foreigners if that’s your legitimate goal. Me and Wert are clearly not foreigners

Post by Acornesia suppressed by Lave Deldederady.

Acornesia

Lave Deldederady wrote:(2) The World Assembly Delegate may be any member of the World Assembly, provided that that member has more endorsements than the existing Delegate

(4) The World Assembly Delegate may remain in office for any length of time, provided that no other candidate meeting the requirements under Article 1, Chapter 1, section 2 are met.

Where does it forbid the endorsement cap?

The WA delegate is elected by in game mechanics.

If there is an endorsement cap, that cannot happen.

Do not spam the message board.

Lave Deldederady wrote:Do not spam the message board.

I didn’t, I only triple posted by one message. And that was in responding to posts I had missed.

Anyway, it is clearly dictatorial to enforce an endorsement cap on natives. Your entire reasoning is to prevent being raided by foreigners. I literally founded the region, and everyone else above the cap is also a native.

Acornesia wrote:I didn’t, I only triple posted by one message. And that was in responding to posts I had missed.

Anyway, it is clearly dictatorial to enforce an endorsement cap on natives. Your entire reasoning is to prevent being raided by foreigners. I literally founded the region, and everyone else above the cap is also a native.

1) You posted four times in a row, that is spamming per the RMB rules. Maybe read them if you've forgotten?

2) You being the founder means nothing.

3) I am a native, just like our other wonderful citizens.

Lave Deldederady wrote:I have suppressed a message calling for actions to be taken against me, the legal delegate. For security purposes I will not allow my seat to be put under assault. Congress must first be elected and then they will decide on further security concerns.

Also, if you were to be de-elected for your unconstitutional and unpopular actions, that would also be legal. You being the legal delegate is not really relevant here.

But anyway, I’ll attempt to comply with your endorsement cap, even if I strongly disagree with it. In the end, it’s up to the people endorsing me to remove their endorsements.

Lave Deldederady wrote:1) You posted four times in a row, that is spamming per the RMB rules. Maybe read them if you've forgotten?

2) You being the founder means nothing.

3) I am a native, just like our other wonderful citizens.

1) Yes, I apologize

2) It means I am a native, which means I cannot be a foreigner

3) And so am I. Your reason for the security measures are null and void

As much as I dislike this new regime, I am willing to cooperate. What do you want me to do?

Acornesia wrote:1) Yes, I apologize

2) It means I am a native, which means I cannot be a foreigner

3) And so am I. Your reason for the security measures are null and void

I never called you a foreigner. I only brought up foreigners/invaders who may attempt to interfere with our wonderful region. You are the one who has decided that I have called any of the people over the cap a foreigner.

Lave Deldederady wrote:I never called you a foreigner. I only brought up foreigners/invaders who may attempt to interfere with our wonderful region. You are the one who has decided that I have called any of the people over the cap a foreigner.

No, I’m saying that you should only enforce the endo cap on foreigners. If your regions are true, why would natives need an endorsement cap?

Acornesia wrote:As much as I dislike this new regime, I am willing to cooperate. What do you want me to do?

For now you need to leave the World Assembly as to reset your endorsements, I do not think it will be easy for you to lower them naturally at this time. You may, once you return to the WA, regather your endorsements after you have endorsed me.

Otherwise, I would love your input on how you think we should hold the election as to keep it private and fair. I still feel like having those who can vote telegram me would be best with a dispatch showing results - without voter information of course, to keep it all private.

Inner Kilvaka

Acornesia wrote:No, I’m saying that you should only enforce the endo cap on foreigners. If your regions are true, why would natives need an endorsement cap?

This will be discussed by Congress once it convenes. For now it applies to all nations in the region.

Inner Kilvaka

Lave Deldederady wrote:For now you need to leave the World Assembly as to reset your endorsements, I do not think it will be easy for you to lower them naturally at this time. You may, once you return to the WA, regather your endorsements after you have endorsed me.

Otherwise, I would love your input on how you think we should hold the election as to keep it private and fair. I still feel like having those who can vote telegram me would be best with a dispatch showing results - without voter information of course, to keep it all private.

But why would the endorsement cap apply to me, a native, if the purpose of instituting an endorsement cap is to prevent foreigners from taking power?

I need to go, I’ll respond later.

Acornesia wrote:But why would the endorsement cap apply to me, a native, if the purpose of instituting an endorsement cap is to prevent foreigners from taking power?

Where did I ever state that the cap was only for foreigners? It applies to all nations equally. This is the fairest way to go about this while we bolster our security during the transfer to Congress.

I must head out now as well, I will be back later to iron out the details of the election which I am hoping to open tonight.

Well things took a turn

Lave has dethrownaphobia

And also disrespected the constitutuion he SO abliged.

But i don't really concern until the delegate abuses power Even more

As said consecutive delegacy is allowed so endorsement caps beyond 50% are straight up tyrannical and rule breaking.

Wert

I would like to make a clarification here, since there seems to be a lot of confusion.

While I am as surprised as many of you about this turn of events, there is nothing Lave has done to indicate to me that they have violated our constitution. Especially considering our region does not yet have a legislative branch that can be tasked with important matters like the existence or lack thereof, of endorsement caps, I feel that it is only reasonable that this authority be vested in the World Assembly Delegate until such time as a legislative branch is up and running. There is precedent for this - legislature such as Article 1 of the Constitution of the Greater Sahara, as well as the Elections Act, were both passed because of the approval of the World Assembly Delegate at the time. Therefore, without a legislative branch to decide otherwise, I am of the opinion that Lave is within their rights to issue an endorsement cap as an emergency edict, provided that the legislative branch review it at the earliest opportunity. Until that review is possible, however, the edict shall be law.

Lave Deldederady, Greater Chicati

So, after taking the time to go through and read through the entirety of the RMB, I'm going to echo what Kilvaka said. While I can definitely see the reason for concern, we have to keep in mind that we are a young region, and are in a precarious situation. It's dangerous to risk having the delegacy switch back and forth multiple times. The endo cap will grant us stability in these crucial moments as we form a true government!

Inner Kilvaka, Lave Deldederady

Alright folks, now seems like a great time for campaigning! It's more important now than ever that we all pitch in and form a stable government!

Choose Greater Chicati!

It is clear that those of us here are a lucky few. We handful of pioneers have been given the opportunity to raise region through its infancy and into maturity.

Soon, we will decide on two new legislators for our government. This is a historic event, and one we shouldn't take lightly. The choices these first legislators take may very well lead to the rise, or fall, of the region. That is why I have decided to run for the office of Legislator. With my experience in student government, I know the ropes, and even more importantly, I'm prepared to learn. That flexibility is why I am the best candidate on the ballot today. I take the time to listen to all sides, all perspectives. I can acknowledge everyone's stances, without falling sway to propaganda and strongarming. I can see through ploys, and I believe in my ability to make people come together, even under tense circumstances.

So when you have to choose who to vote for, choose Greater Chicati!

Lave Deldederady

a man cant bring his puppets in here without them getting kicked? smh

Northern Wardorsinatinady wrote:a man cant bring his puppets in here without them getting kicked? smh

Not all at the same time in support of an invasion/coup attempt

Inner Kilvaka, Greater Chicati

Lave Deldederady wrote:Not all at the same time in support of an invasion/coup attempt

and? what if i was, what if i wasnt

im fricking 2nd in the region for nudity i coule just be stupid :P

Northern Wardorsinatinady wrote:and? what if i was, what if i wasnt

Were you moving in support of the traitor?

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Northern Wardorsinatinady

Lave Deldederady wrote:Were you moving in support of the traitor?

maybe, maybe noot, as i said, i am an idiot

edit: lol NOOT NOOT

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Northern Wardorsinatinady

oh now tahts just dumb, rules dont say double posting isnt allowed

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