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Region: Greater Sahara
I urge everyone to choose me! We've entered some turbulent waters, and I'm confident that I can keep a cool head and guide us to peace and prosperity. Let me help our region reach the heights it deserves!
Lave Deldederady
They would, they did, they would have, and we can, in that order.
Lave Deldederady
No. They entered at the same time in a coordinated effort. Any suggestion to the contrary is suspending their disbelief to support their bias. They joined at the same time, they joined the world assembly, they failed at endorsing.
Let's move on from this topic, I see no real reason to continue going around in circles.
Inner Kilvaka
Post by Anarkiyastan suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
1. Proof? Evidence?
2. They didnÂ’t, I checked 🤨
3. They wouldnÂ’t have. Acornesia already had more endorsements than Lave Deldederady.
4. ThatÂ’s undemocraticÂ
Post by Dawid Janowski suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
what is everyones favorite ice cream flavor?
Post by Anarkiyastan suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
None of them joined the World Assembly, and they had more endorsements than you anyway
Post by Dawid Janowski suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
bro hates ice cream lol
Post by Anarkiyastan suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
Why was this supressed?
And I donÂ’t see why this was supressed 🍦
My favorite is lemon
You must have missed the memo about moving on from the topic. All further discussion regarding the coup will be suppressed regardless of stance.
It was suppressed because the author is a puppet of a banned nation who keeps returning here to spam our RMB.
Post by Domenico Lorenzo Ponziani suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
thats a weird flavor, my favorite is chocolate
Also ftr my favorite is Strawberry, like a true scholar
Post by Joseph Henry Blackburne suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
i never did like strawberry
Post by Harry Nelson Pillsbury suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
for the poll, my fave color is purple
I still want further explanation even if itÂ’s via telegrams, but fine. IÂ’ll stop talking about it. 😒
Lave Deldederady
Post by Alessandro Salvio suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
it seems. a lot of people chose the other option on the poll
Anarkiyastan so where do you get lemon ice cream? I don't know if I've seen that on the shelves? Maybe I'm not looking at the right shelves.
Isidor Gunsberg
Post by Isidor Gunsberg suppressed by Lave Deldederady.
my store doesnt sell it
Lemon ice cream is quite yummy, for me itÂ’s quite frequently available. Maybe thatÂ’s just local 🤷♂️
Isidor Gunsberg, Lave Deldederady
Oh maybe, I mostly sharp at big corporate places like Walmart lol
My favorite color is rainbow in other RMB!
Inner Kilvaka, Lave Deldederady, Greater Chicati
I felt like I was forgetting some colors lol, there are just so many options!
Rainbowstaria, Anarkiyastan
Post by Old South Exeter suppressed by Lave Deldederady.
Black, Like Ur Heart For Example
Rainbowstaria
Post by Ernst Falkbeer suppressed by Lave Deldederady.
ROASTED DAM
ive seen you more times than the times when i went to take a bath
-redditor
Rainbow... what does this mean?
no literally ive seen that guy so many times by now i dont remember
i did tell you guys in the discord i love alting
Richard Reti
Post by Richard Reti suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
poll seems a wee bit one-sided if you ask me
Anarkiyastan
Post by Old South Something Something suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
You know lads, my very favourite colour is either grey or beige, because they're so delightfully bland and dull.
Richard Reti, Anarkiyastan
Post by Richard Reti suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
REAL
Post by Old South Something Something suppressed by Lave Deldederady.
He's never been anywhere, you're probably thinking of his evil twin brother.
Rainbowstaria
Explain now whyas going on with Acorn Head
Also why aren't I included in the ballot :(
Or did you edit it to make sure I don't vote myself because I want Legislator
We had a poll to determine candidates yesterday: https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=199599
You had to have voted "yes" on that poll to formalize your intent to run as legislator.
Bruh
poor you ;(
inactivity always being an issue for the humblest of nations
Astarter
I wasn't even afk that long I just didn't notice, I've logged on yesterday smh
Rainbowstaria
Why is so many post since I gone?
the region has gone into a complete riot
Laosball
Why is region riot?
because of the staged coups and the revolution
Laosball, Anarkiyastan
There was an attempted invasion, and there've been dissenters stirring the pot ever since
Laosball
I still confuse. How does make region riot?
Like I said, leftover traitors and invasion sympathists are picking fights.
Hello, I'm the founder of Reference and TGS.
What is going on?
The Symorthe
I see. What happen to poll then? Why is all vote other?
The Symorthe
Post by The Symorthe suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
corrupt leader took power and prevented a popular person from becoming delegate by banning them
Oh that? I guess people just have a different favorite color lol
The Symorthe
Coup attempt failed, followed by a small army of invader puppets trying to sway public opinion, as you have no doubt seen.
A breakdown of the attack is available here https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1870687
Post by The Symorthe suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
THATS bs you banned the person who would have become delegate and are claiming that they were gonna stage a coup
Post by The Symorthe suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
that report is biased
So what it looks like is that you stole the region from the natives pretty much?
That is not the case. It is not the fault of the World Assembly Delegate or any other entity that someone decided to attempt an invasion.
You have to stop repeating that and let everyone scroll up to tab 14 to know what really happenned
The Fatick Wor
Post by The Fatick Wor suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
it wasnt an invasion it was you preventing someone was was gonna be delegate from gaining power
Anarkiyastan
This has been explained at length already, so I will be curt. Acornesia clearly moved out of the region to preserve their status, then moved back in along with several puppets in a clear attempt to claim the delegacy without going through the process of earning endorsements. It was a coup attempt, pure and simple.
Can you stop suppressing posts and let people talk?
Rainbowstaria, Anarkiyastan, Bured Kin
fr this is just like Cities Of The World all coming back again
Anarkiyastan
The posts that are suppressed are made by nations that were clearly founded just to clog up the RMB with propaganda. Their complaints are manufactured to stir up dissent from thin air and are not legitimate.
[pre]
4 minutes ago: The Fatick Wor lodged a message on the Greater Sahara Regional Message Board.
5 minutes ago: The Fatick Wor relocated from North Frontier to Greater Sahara.
5 minutes ago: The Fatick Wor was founded in North Frontier.[/pre]
no they moved out of the region in fear of being banned by the delegate was was afriad they would lose power, then procided to call the card farming puppet i brought in to be "coup puppets"
no they are made by puppets becuase you banned the people who stood upo to you
Anarkiyastan
We have banned the people who blatantly supported an unlawful invasion, and the puppets they used to "justify" it.
IÂ’ve done extensive research, and this summary is entirely false. The puppets coming in never joined the World Assembly one by one, never endorsed Acornesia, Acornesia never conspired with foreigners, he simply had more native endorsements
those people that were "invaiding" werer puppets, you cant have more than one WA nation, so it is logiclly imposibble to assume that they were going to endorse anyone
This has been commented on again and again. Whether or not the puppets had time to endorse Acornesia before being detected and removed is irrelevant. Their timing and behavior was and is consistent with an invasion attempt.
give up with this already other regions have adressed liberating and you are bringing more attention to the region
its gonna fall apart if you keep with the restless repeating posts these people will not listen to you simple as that alr?
so go to sleep bud
Anarkiyastan, The Symorthe
What do you mean without going through the process of earning endorsements? Acornesia already had more endorsements than Lave Deldederady. Acornesia had already earned more endorsements than the acting delegate, had already been elected.
no it wasnt as they physically would not be able to join the wa and therefore not be able to endorse anyone
If that were true, then why did they feel the need to enlist an army of puppets to come along with?
LIKE I SAID THEY PSCICALLY COULD NOT ENDORSE ANYONE AS IT IS AGAINST NATIONSTART TOS TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE WA nation
Anarkiyastan
I donÂ’t know, we canÂ’t even be sure they organized the puppets to come with them. But that was the case, not if that were the case.
Maybe to cover the activity so that their return wasnÂ’t noticed?
The timing is simply too suspicious for any other possibility. In the face of an imminent invasion, we were left with no choice but to take swift, decisive action.
bro doesnt know that you cant have more than one WA nation at a time XD
Anarkiyastan
I thought all further discussion would be suppressed regardless of stance. And yet, this anti-Lave stance has been suppressed, while the pro-Lave ones havenÂ’tÂ….although that may come from the fact, that you cannot suppress your own posts, and the only pro-Lave people is you, yourself 😝
The Symorthe
did you and lave do an agreement to support eachother because i wouldnt get this from you, i thought you where more rational than that.
please change your attitude.
Anarkiyastan, The Symorthe
You couldÂ’ve banned the “puppets”, then. Acornesia himself was simply returning to the region after leaving (probably to avoid getting banned), and already had 11 endorsements rests at the time 10 for Lave 🤷♂️
The Symorthe
I would have been more than happy to let this conversation die out so we can get back to the business of building the foundation of the region. Unfortunately, it seems that propagandists have no such intentions, and so I am left with no choice but to attempt to explain what happened before people start getting the wrong idea because of an army of puppets.
We had no way of knowing that Acornesia did not plan to bring additional waves of puppets, or otherwise illegitimately secure endorsements. Rest assured that the possibility of an appeal will be discussed when the legislative department finishes assembling.
appeal? yall need to fricking Pardon them for wrongful ejection
Anarkiyastan
Why didnt you talked with him to know??
you couldve avoided this whole keyword propagandist riot if you both set into terms
Anarkiyastan
Should the legislative branch decide that the decision was made in error, a pardon will be extended. However, for the time being while the branch has not yet fully assembled, the ban will remain in effect until things are stable enough that that decision can be made.
Anarkiyastan
Again, there was simply no time. Had Acornesia approached any legitimate office with their concerns, I have no doubt some sort of compromise could've been reached. The fact of the matter, though, is that they didn't take that opportunity, and instead of diplomacy, sought to seize the region by force.
yall in this dicord discussed banning Astarter and First Nightmare for being a "threat to security" you guys were just power hungry and was afraid of loseing leadership it didnt matter taht they enetered the region
Rainbowstaria, Anarkiyastan
But they did pursue legitimate office. They legitimately got more endorsements than the acting delegate, and were ejected.
The reason for this is due to the endorsement cap, so yes, assuming the endorsement cap is legal, then Acornesia did break the law. But the majority doesnÂ’t support the cap
wait your in the discord??
tellegram me
i got banned
ah i get it
The pursued office by executing an invasion. Had our current delegate done exactly what Acornesia did, you would be demanding their immediate resignation.
Further, the endorsement cap is legal. Since we don't have a legislative branch, all laws passed - from the Constitution, which I see none claiming is illegitimate, to the endorsement cap, were all passed by the delegate at that time. It is also scheduled to be evaluated when the legislative branch convenes.
people already hated the current delegate
Nobody is banning nobody If you wanna make this region great win the election make laws and help finish the Constitution
Rainbowstaria, The Symorthe
Post by The Symorthe suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
THEN WHY DID THEY BAN Acornesia! WHEN HE WAS ABOUT TO WIN THE ELECTION!
Anarkiyastan
Reason why you should vote for rainbowstaria as legislature
Anarkiyastan, The Symorthe
No, I wouldnÂ’t be. The circumstances of AcornesiaÂ’s victory wouldnÂ’t be recreated by Lave, anyway, because if Acornesia had won and Lave hadnÂ’t then Lave wouldnÂ’t even need to leave the region, jump through multiple regions, before returning at the update, because Lave would have never been persecuted for having too many endorsements.
All this fuss and bother comes from the endorsement cap, as I understand it, and from Acornesia's refusal to comply.
The endorsement cap, just like the Constitution and the Elections Act, was passed into law by the World Assembly Delegate. If the latter two are recognized as law, why not the first? The law is not any less the law when it's no longer convenient.
Beyond that, from the start, the endorsement cap was a temporary measure, to ensure stability while the government finds its footing.
Across the game, regions have endorsement caps in place for regional security. Why is it a problem here, but nowhere else?
Acornesia broke the law, staged an invasion, and then proceeded to sulk in Free Sahara. No part of that makes him the "rightful delegate" or anything of the sort.
Anarkiyastan
i have evedense that yall were planning to remove Acornesia over 4 HOURS BEFORE THE "COUP"
Anarkiyastan
I believe it is because
1. At the very beginning stages of this reason, there seemed to have been a unanimous consensus that despite other regions having an endorsement cap, this region wouldnÂ’t have an endorsement cap except for foreigners
2. The constitution implies the absence of an endorsement cap, because it says the delegate is elected via game mechanics, but the delegate can never be elected via game mechanics if the region prevents anyone from gaining more endorsements than the delegate.
Oh, really? Please show 😯
The Symorthe
The Constitution promoted consecutive delegacy and lave came out spitted at that rule disrespected everyone involved, and started a dictatorship
other regions use caps more generously and more organized
He didn't want to run plus he was sending telegrams out to everybody to unendorsed our leader you all had got the telegram
Post self-deleted by The Symorthe.
I have heard no consensus to support that. If you have anything to support this, please feel free to reach out to me.
As I said, the endorsement cap is a temporary measure to ensure regional security while the legislative branch assembles. When that is done, it can be repealed, since the government will have stabilized.
Anarkiyastan
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