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Region: Greater Sahara
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What about the election
Northern Wardorsinatinady, Free Filosia
No it doesnt it leads to a dictatorship that only ends till the delegate CTE, making endorsement caps in theory sounds like a good idea but results in tyranny without freedom to Even gain endorsements and he is rule breaking your just being very biased, remember be unbiased and respect rules
BTW don't the most influential and most competent people are the one who are on the top?
And if raiders do come they're not listening to You, like literally, it also leads to Bad delegates getting a HUGE Reign and rights
Wert, Northern Wardorsinatinady, Free Filosia
hello how do i play?
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1870680
hehehe
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Wert
um interesting dispatch....
Edrenland, Free Filosia
ikr
Wert
I have grave news - less than an hour ago, Acornesia, a vocal opponent of the current World Assembly Delegate, attempted to execute a coup against the Greater Sahara and its government.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1870687
What about the election
whats happing
Post by Edrenland suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
scrw
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screw the election we have more importent things to do like talk abiut farming
L bozo
Wert
Not Nice!
Be Nice 🥰
what happened
srry i dnt mean to ping u that many times
ok
Wert
you say the nations were joining the WA and endorsing this dude but i chekced and none of them joined the WA ? unless i looking at wrong natin?
Wert
Someone (Acornesia, to be precise) attempted to invade our region, but luckily we managed to stop them in time.
Free Filosia
ok thats good
NO NO NO YOU ARE ALL WRONG, i brought my puppets in at the same time Acornesia decided to join back into the region
they are NOT raiders and Lave Deldederady is a dictator! FREEDOM OF SPEECH
The main region feed doesn't show endorsements - here's a snippet from one of the nations that supported the invasion.
[pre]4/23/2023, 11:57:43 AM EDT: Ughhhhhhhh endorsed Acornesia.
4/23/2023, 11:54:16 AM EDT: Ughhhhhhhh was admitted to the World Assembly.
4/23/2023, 11:52:21 AM EDT: Ughhhhhhhh applied to join the World Assembly.
(snip)
4/18/2023, 11:18:16 AM EDT: Ughhhhhhhh relocated from The South Pacific to Greater Sahara.
4/18/2023, 11:17:43 AM EDT: Ughhhhhhhh was founded in The South Pacific.[/pre]
You'll note the immediate move to Greater Sahara to lie in wait, then the suspiciously perfect timing of joining the WA and endorsing Acornesia quickly after. This, and other activity like it made it clear that this was a coordinated invasion attempt
ah ok that clears it up
becuase yall are being tyrannts and setting an endo cap
Rainbowstaria, Edrenland
???
Free Filosia
but wait there a 5 day space between them joining and endorsing acronesia unless im misreading?
whats a endo cap
Northern Wardorsinatinady
You are welcome to disagree with legislature, but that does not excuse an attempted coup.
Free Filosia
it prevents other people from becomeing the leader,which is authoritarian
Where is your proof?
Can You please tell me?
Edrenland
no more endo cap cuz thats no fun lol
Northern Wardorsinatinady
thats becuase Ughhhhhh was the second person to EVER join the region, they are kicking member that were here whan the region started
Free Filosia
bro also forgor to ban me lol
if they really did care about region secruity they would have thourrily checked, not just ban opposition
oh so then what was the problem with acronesia?
Northern Wardorsinatinady
what does that mean
nothing, they founded the region
We believe that this nation was lying in wait, or otherwise activated, to coordinate alongside the invasion force that attempted to illegitimately place Acornesia into the delegacy. The timing matches up extraordinarily well with the behavior we'd expect in that case.
I won't be taking further questions on the topic, because I believe that the evidence speaks for itself. Acornesia, regardless of which specific nations assisted them, clearly plotted and took action to seize the delegacy in an unlawful manner. We are lucky our security was sufficient to the task of preventing them from doing so.
Free Filosia
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the dispatch said it was an election denier but if acronesia had more endorsemnets and became new delegate wouldnt that also be a fair election ?
Wert, Edrenland
technically it would
Edrenland
acronesia is good right?
Northern Wardorsinatinady
Post by Northern Wardorsinatinady suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
YES SO THEY BANNED A NATION THAT WAS GOING TO BE FAIRLY ELECTED
yes Edrenland, acornesia is good
Edrenland
oh but thatd mean rheh were waiting for 5 days in advance and lave delderedy wasnt delegate for that long right?
Northern Wardorsinatinady, Edrenland
LAVE WAS NOT DELEGATE WHEN Ughhhhhhhh JOINED THE REGION< THEY ARE JUST MAKING UP AN EXCUSE TO BAN THEM, STOP THIS OPPRESSION! UNBANAcornesia!!
Edrenland
why cant acronesia be leader
that is the best move right now right?
Northern Wardorsinatinady
EXACTLY!!
Stop using all caps.
Acornesia clearly led an invasion attempt, regardless of which nations were or were not involved in a specific role in that attempt, or how long invaders may have been lying in wait.
Acronesia has committed treason in attempting to use outside influence and invasions to seize the delegacy and thus is not a valid candidate for leader.
wait ou said ughhhh was one of them, but I dot see anybody see having endorsed acronesia recently in the national happenings
acronesia be best player in this game
acronesia be craked at nation states
acronesia should be leader of this place
acronesia is a W
acronesia is best leader
Northern Wardorsinatinady, Rainbowstaria, Free Filosia
sorry im just confused whats going on
acronesia shold be leader
Post by Northern Wardorsinatinady suppressed by Lave Deldederady.
MekhreTyreumStalanupWaldropMacakoFirst Nightmare
I strongly recommend that ALL OF YOU UNENDORSE Lave Deldederady AS THEY ARE A CLEAR TYRANNT!!!
Edrenland
Post by Edrenland suppressed by Lave Deldederady.
i agree (not that that say much) but acronesiais just better ngl
Northern Wardorsinatinady
Post by Northern Wardorsinatinady suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
NO IT IS YOU COMMITING TREASON, AGAINST THE CONSTITION AND AGAINST GREATER SAHARA
Edrenland
Stop using all caps.
Post by Northern Wardorsinatinady suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
I WOULD RATHER NOT
what so bad about useing caps huh? huh? caps are cool yeah!
Western Wardorsinatinady
against the rules apparently but I think it should be allowed
Western Wardorsinatinady
Post by Western Wardorsinatinady suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
THEY ARE COOL!
Sorry for the wait on the ban of the other traitor, he moved in with Acorn during the invasion attempt. They failed their coup and are now trying to see chaos.
Inner Kilvaka
Post by Edrenland suppressed by Lave Deldederady.
why y suppressed norhtern wardorsinatiandry
Upon further investigation we found evidence of another traitor who has also been banned
but he never endorsed acorn nor joined world assemblh, also why is acorn a traitor what did he do I still dont understand
this is bs, what ever happened. to allowing political opposition
Free Filosia
what edrenland did nothing he just said acronesia should be leader the hell
why are we banning people just for disagreeing
No, he was supporting through the WA during the invasion
Political opposition is allowed. Inciting, defending, and especially participating in a coup and usurpation attempt is not.
but endorsing is voting for someone hes not a foreigner he was just endorsing (voting) for acronesia
Awkward
kinda asad, losing all your reigonal influence banning us
Free Filosia
but all acronesia did was try to get elected as leader ?
We are not, we are banning those we are finding had aided in the coup attempt.
well you gonna have to ban me then
He was supporting an invasion when Acorn entered the region alongside a group of puppets.
Inner Kilvaka
all he did was vote for acronesia to be delegate
Amos Burn
Okay, have fun in TRR :)
but acorn was always in the region hes founder?
Amos Burn
Thats not how a frontier works - he has no real power or right to the region.
Like I said before, the timing of his vote is incredibly suspicious when viewed alongside the timeline of the coup attempt. Between this and his overall general lack of activity, we have found probable cause to declare them an invader and an enemy of the state, and they have been dealt with accordingly. Further refusal to acknowledge this fact will be treated as willful ignorance.
You are still disrespecting his authority
Without him You arent where You are
Right now
Amos Burn
Post by Amos Burn suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
NAH EDRENLAND WASNT EVEN PART OF OUR PLAN THING YALL BANNED HIM FOR SPEAKING HIS MIND
He has no authority, and even if he did, it was forfeit when he supported an invasion.
He has no authority. He gave that up when he made this a frontier. He gave up any respect when he tried to invade the region.
Inner Kilvaka
how is disagreeing with you willful ignorance, he voted for acronesia wayyyy before the coup attempt, unrelated to the coup, plus its a coup if acronesia is democratically elected by the citizens of the region ? no foreigners voted for him, sure people cam at the same time as him but none of them were WA and none voted for him
to me it seems like you only banned him because he would have become new delegate
Post by Amos Burn suppressed by Lave Deldederady.
ok yall gotta stop and just remove the endo caps
You gave up all your respect for your people by creating a tyranny
Oh lord and saviour may the crisis end!
Akiba Rubinstein, Free Filosia
why is this suppressed its just an political opinion
save Greater Sahara
Rainbowstaria
I have only tried to bring security and safety in this time of transition - Acorn started stirring the pot. He started attempting to remove me. He gathered invaders and attempted to remove me by foreign force.
That user clearly relocated to the region just to espouse their propoganda.
[pre]Seconds ago: Amos Burn lodged a message on the Greater Sahara Regional Message Board.
Seconds ago: Amos Burn relocated from European Union to Greater Sahara.
Seconds ago: Amos Burn relocated from The Order of the Grey Wardens to European Union.
1 minute ago: Amos Burn relocated from 10000 Islands to The Order of the Grey Wardens.
1 minute ago: Amos Burn relocated from The South Pacific to 10000 Islands.
1 minute ago: Amos Burn relocated from The North Pacific to The South Pacific.
1 minute ago: Amos Burn relocated from Chess Players to The North Pacific. [/pre]
Free Filosia
i still dont know whats happening why cant someone explain to me without bias?
one side is saying hes a traitor even tho they dont explain what makes him a traitor
the other is saying hes the best and should be elected even without explaining why
Aron Nimzowitsch
but wheres the proof no foreign nations endorsed him, all of his 11 endorsements were from nations either founded here or moved here on day 1 of the region
We have explained at length why we have decided to deem Acornesia a traitor - they supported a coup, an invasion, a usurpation, whatever you want to call it.
The other side, what remains of it, is composed of propogandists, which is why they can't give a sound explanation for their support of the "election" of an invading power. They're just trying to sow chaos.
because they were going to be the legitament delegate
Acorn is a traitor because he broke new endo cap laws which have been out in place temporarily while we finish our election process. Upset with these laws he broke them and then attempted to remove me by force. He worked with another group, including other people from the region, to try and invade to remove me. He was banned and now the traitors are continuing to enter our message board after being banned to try and spread chaos and lies.
but why is it a coup and not simply an election?? the constitution, unless maybe its outdated says that delegate is elected by in game mechanics and in game mechanics have endorsements as votes
wouldnt you be the side performing a coup by preventing his election??
but why should we have an endo cap the constitution says delegate is elected an endo cap prevents people from voting for anyone other than you
He broke the endo cap laws and then moved in with a group of puppets, thats an invasion.
Inner Kilvaka
This has been explained many times but it is a temporary security measure while we finalize our congressional offices.
Inner Kilvaka
cause nothings gonna hold me backi
but why? weve never been raided, why would you add this law as soon as youve been elected? and if thats the case why would you enforce it on someone whos clearly not an invader?
but none of the puppets endorsed him, all of his endorsements were from citizens
Carl Hamppe
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