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Region: Greater Sahara
Post by Acornesia suppressed by The Justerria.
Hello
Laosball, Anarqyia
This region has no connection with the IS-GS, I just thought of the name suddenly and thought it kind of fit
Laosball
If elected delegate, I will impose a regional welcome telegram to attract more members!
I have tons of experience in this game with my main nation having over 3 billion population!
Acornesia
Honestly, sure, have my endorsement
Wert
Aw, damn I shouldÂ’ve endorsed you 51 minutes ago so youÂ’d be in time for the update. Oh well, my bad.
Wert
Alright, I really shouldÂ’ve. The Wellspring got a delegate in time for the update and theyÂ’re getting so many nationsÂ
Oh well, we only lost one update. CanÂ’t be that bad.
Yeah, im sure we will be fine
Acornesia
Mhm
I am here to help pitch in. My former region, The Wellspring got taken over by The North Pacific. This region will blossom and grow. May this region be marked as the first independent frontier in NationStates!!!!!
Wert, Laosball
Wert make RO with eject perms, also eject those two Belarusian ones theyÂ’re raiders IÂ’m sure, they arrived from Suspicious right after the upvote alongside a bunch of others
Wert
Hey hey hey
Acornesia, Laosball
Anyone who endorses me gets one back
Acornesia, Absolute Samiesser
Ah, if only we hadnÂ’t missed that first update. ItÂ’s not too major, but weÂ’re rapidly losing our monopoly on frontier status and thus the spawns are more thinly spread
Glory to the first and true independent Frontier (though for how longÂ…)
Wert
The game wont let me apport a new Border control officer as i have not been delegate for enough time
Acornesia
Imma make the welcome telegram now, its almost done!
A welcome telegram is very important. Without it, we could let new nations stranded upon our region without guidance. Frontiers have a duty.
Acornesia, Wert
And then probably edit the WFE as well(the factbook entry).
Acornesia, Wert
I will do that after i finish making the welcome telegram.
Change your flags lol, I keep getting confused
Astarter, Wert
done with the welcome telegram, just gonna make a dispatch about it and ask if its good!
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=wert/detail=factbook/id=1868489
Acornesia
There are a few minor typos but I like it
Now time for the harder part. The WFE.
Acornesia
So many nations being founded. We have to get the WAD to get more endorsements so that way we can get more mebers faster.
Acornesia, Wert, Absolute Samiesser, Laosball
Do endorsements increase spawn rate? I donÂ’t think so, I think you only need any delegate at all
Wert, Absolute Samiesser, Laosball
That is true. the only things that increase spawn rate is having a delegate and having a welcome telegram.
But endorsing a delegate increases our region's security and helps us against raids
Acornesia, Astarter
In the future we should have elections for positions, eg Minister of Foreign Affairs, Minister of Defence, Minister of Internal Affairs etc
Wert
Maybe even have a PM and then the WA Delegate could be the President type person
Although you wouldn't elect the WA Delegate
Wert
Oh, here's another idea, tell them how to turn off the annoying spam TGs with all the adverts for other regions
Acornesia, Wert
Finally, I'd like to also suggest me becoming WA Delegate, because:
1 I've been at NS for nearly a year now
2 I'm quite experienced and have run many smaller regions
3 I plan to add in daily questions, quotes, weekly activities and create a Factbook for rules, among other things.
4 I'm very active
Wert
I am a very experienced player with alts across all of nation states, with my main nation having 3 billion people. And i have governemnet powers in a couple of other regions
I already planned to add many of the features you mentioned to the region, but am taking it slowly as i dont want to rush certain things. also the region just started and we are trying to stabilize, we dont even know how elections should go yet
Wert should stay delegate for now.
Wert
So am I and I have aswell. I've had nations in Karma, Conch Kingdom, Kaiserreich, not to mention I've been all around the forums.
I also know how to run a region, it's not that hard unless you are like the North Pacific.
Obviously, we shouldn't have elections yet.
However, all the other mentioned stuff literally help stability and interaction with others.
Oh, and having 3 billion pop doesn't mean sh*t. I've seen absolute morons with what, 4 billion pop?
Besides if you count my other account that CTE'd, I'd have around 2 billion Pop.
Wert
For now maybe
I just don't want him to end up getting 50 endorsements so I can't get in :)))))) /jk
Plus, I have no clue who this dude is so I'm rightful to be wary.
Wert
Im not saying that population means anything, im just saying ive been playing the game for a while
Also can we not argue about this in the RMB it clogs it up
Astarter
Greetings everyone!
As a representative of the People's Republic of Macako, I am excited to be joining the Great Sahara region. I look forward to engaging with all of you and learning more about your respective nations and communities. Let's work together to build a brighter future for our region and the world.
Best regards,
Representative of the People's Republic of Macako
Acornesia, Astarter, Wert, Laosball
So have I, nearly a year, a few months off. Three billions pop, if my quick math served me right, would be about, more then a year and half, at most 2 years? Somewhere around then. Not much longer.
Lmao. Where I'm from, we just never stop arguing.
hello well looks like you found me out well much things are happening here at my state
Acornesia, Astarter, Wert, Laosball
Welcome, everyone!
Have a fun time in Greater Sahara
Laosball
Need more rules, eg stick to site rules, translate to English when possible, don't be offensive (unless it's obviously stated as a joke) etc
Wert
I feel like we should stay rather openended and liberal with the rules until we establish a democratic governance to make new people feel less “oh gosh I need to do all these things!” and more just chill.
Wert
Translating to English is common decency nowadays considering 95% of people speak English online, it'd confuse the people speaking English and make it harder to mod.
Not being offensive is also just decency
Wert
i dont feel there are too many rules for the RMB for now as we are just starting the region out but i do agree that we shouldn't apply too much until we establish a governement
hi
Hey people, you guys do know that Viii Proleterska Vazduhoplovna Brigada is a clear raider, right?
First Nightmare
Greetings
I have just spawned here i hope i have as much fun as i could in this region
Well im sorry if i get inpatient i mean to cut slack this region is very new so it should be in development stage
i promise ill return when its fully developed!
Acornesia, Astarter, Wert
Yes, I wanted to ban him but Wert is yet to give me eject powers
Wert, Northern Wardorsinatinady
You can help it develop if you donÂ’t leave! But have fun wherever you choose to go.
Can I just say, anybody who likes Sunday the most is a sadistic person, it's the worst day ever
Wert
100 nations!
Wert
the game would not let me me grant border control powers to anyone until i was delegate for 24 hours
Acornesia
We got to be very careful of a raid, another frontier region,Weather just got raided...
Acornesia
We need more WA nations and we need to be very active in 7 hours when itÂ’s the WA update
Wert
i could get a couple friends.... but that wont really be enough
:(
Astarter
I think we should begin working on a government system now.
Wert
yes, we should first probably draft some sort of constitution or "law of the land"
Acornesia
Yeah
Wert
it doesnt have to be fancy but it does need to state on how we elect officials
Acornesia
Polling is an efficient system, but we donÂ’t want people flooding the region.
Maybe during election season (like 1~2 days) the region is temporarily password locked, until the vote is over?
Wert
Hello
Acornesia, Wert
Welcome to NationStates & welcome to Greater Sahara! Enjoy!
Lave Deldederady
What do I do?
Wert
Maybe instead of doing that, we could have people do some sort of 'verification' for there vote to count, as password locking does prevent new nations from spawning
Acornesia
What about using google sheets?
Wert
In NationStates? You can answer issues, check out the forums, do RPs (in the forums; or later here, but we donÂ’t have an official regional RP as of now), and participate in regional politics, as well as the World Assembly!
For this region, I advise you join the World Assembly and endorse Wert. If youÂ’d like help figuring out how, IÂ’d be glad to
Wert, Lave Deldederady
Yeah, but itÂ’d be very temporary.
Wert
How does the World Assembly work? Also how do regional politics work?
Wert
We havenÂ’t decided Regional Politics exactly yet, thatÂ’s what weÂ’re discussing right now
The World Assembly (https://www.nationstates.net/page=un), press apply and youÂ’ll be sent an email confirming, once you join you can endorse regional members to vote for them to be the delegate, the most endorsed member becomes the delegate. You can also vote on resolutions that the WA is passing
Wert, Lave Deldederady
What does the delegate do? How do endorsements work? also, what do the resolutions do? Sorry for so many questions.
Wert
it also takes a lot of influence to keep password locking a region, also the verification wouldn't be hard, it would just ask the person to answer a couple of questions
Acornesia
If we did it on somewhere like discord then we could have users telegram from their nation to confirm that way we know they are the nation they say they are?
Wert
the delegate is the nation in a region with the most endorsements, the delegate votes on resolutions and helps run the region, endorsements are what determines who the delegate is and how mant votes they get in the WA
Lave Deldederady
ItÂ’s fine! The delegate governs the region. To endorse a fellow WA member, you just scroll down to their nation page, and it counts as a vote for them. The votes are rallied twice a day in a regional update, roughly the same time for all regions
Resolutions are mostly for RP, but security council resolutions can actually effect regional gameplay
Wert, Lave Deldederady
Hi!
Acornesia, Wert
Welcome!
Wert
What is region gameplay? also, do you only endorse one person?
Wert
You can endorse as many people in the region you are in at the same time
Acornesia, Lave Deldederady
Would there be any reason to endorse other people and gain endorsements? Other than trying to become delegate.
Wert
ItÂ’s like approval voting
Wert
there is a banner you get for getting endorsed... but other than that not really. except for influence
Yes, actually! Endorsements also increase another nationÂ’s influence, and higher influence makes it harder to be invaded and toppled by a foreign region, so everyone endorsing eachother is good for the region because it increases our influence.
Wert, Lave Deldederady
Okay! I'll endorse other nations then and hopefully they endorse me back (and endorse our delegate!)
also - how long have you been playing this game? You seem to know a lot :)
Acornesia, Wert
some regions have something called an "endorsement cap" which prevents nations from getting more that a certain amount, ive never understood why some have such low amounts though, as it doesn't benefit anyone to have low endo caps
Acornesia, Lave Deldederady
Maybe once we form our regional government we can discuss setting one :D
Do you guys have discord or skype or something to organize on? Or are we going to organize it all on our messaging board?
Wert
We donÂ’t have a discord right now, we could make one I suppose, but IÂ’d rather keep stuff like actual elections here, since I know some people dont have discord
Wert, Lave Deldederady
thats a good idea, but it is nice to have a regional discord in the future when our region grows larger
Acornesia, Lave Deldederady
Anyway, back to discussing a regional politics system. How would we verify so many votes, though? WeÂ’re getting pretty big. ThatÂ’d also be a problem with having a system like TG-in votes.
Wert, Lave Deldederady
you would only need to verify once to be able to vote in all future elections so that you dont have to TG to register every time
ThatÂ’s fair enough.
But still, how would people vote?
I have an idea, actually. What if I made an alt, and using that alt made a password-protected stronghold which would build an embassy here. During elections IÂ’ll change embassy settings so everyone can speak in the RMB of this alternate region, and people would simply state their votes in this election RMB. Transparent and secure
Wert
That was partly why I suggested we use a discord. If we created a verification system through telegrams on discord and limited the voting pool - members of the World Assembly can only have one member, right? I skimmed the FAQ - to a unique identification then we wouldn't need to verify every election through a long process but instead because we would have roles on the discord or whatever we can then just have those users vote and we already know they are unique eligible voters and not foreign invaders.
Acornesia, Wert
Then we don't have secret ballots and fall into issues with peer pressure or other political issues, somewhere that votes can be sent and seen over by more than one person but not in public - some sort of election committee? - so that we can make sure nobody is falsifying the ballots would be needed. Unless we wanted to just use the endorsement system? For delegate elections we drop the cap and let anyone who has been here for whatever amount of time endorse who they want to elect and then that person becomes delegate the election is over.
Acornesia, Wert
No yeah I was thinking we have a political system involving a delegate with some power over a different branch of government which is elected differently, while the different branch of government can also influence delegate votes.
I think we should only have an endorsement cap for “foreigners.” We could make our election-verification system more than just election verification but a full citizenship program.
Wert, Lave Deldederady
that us true but not everyone likes the WA, only around 15% of in game users have joined the WA.
Lave Deldederady
I like the idea of a citizen program, i have seemn many starting out regions us it. and it usually works out pretty well
Acornesia
I like the idea of a full citizenship program, so we have citizens and foreigners. Citizens are nations who are endorsing the current delegate.
We could also use forums, I'm sure there are free hosting sites out there to check out.
Acornesia, Wert
Non-delegate elections shouldnÂ’t be WA-locked
Wert
WeÂ’ll, it seems we all agree on citizenship
I was thinking something like:
All nations founded in Greater Sahara are automatically citizens
A nation thatÂ’s been a member of Greater Sahara for a week and has over 5 endorsements is eligible to receive citizenship
etc,.
Wert
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