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What about the election

Northern Wardorsinatinady, Free Filosia

Inner Kilvaka wrote:I would like to make a clarification here, since there seems to be a lot of confusion.

While I am as surprised as many of you about this turn of events, there is nothing Lave has done to indicate to me that they have violated our constitution. Especially considering our region does not yet have a legislative branch that can be tasked with important matters like the existence or lack thereof, of endorsement caps, I feel that it is only reasonable that this authority be vested in the World Assembly Delegate until such time as a legislative branch is up and running. There is precedent for this - legislature such as Article 1 of the Constitution of the Greater Sahara, as well as the Elections Act, were both passed because of the approval of the World Assembly Delegate at the time. Therefore, without a legislative branch to decide otherwise, I am of the opinion that Lave is within their rights to issue an endorsement cap as an emergency edict, provided that the legislative branch review it at the earliest opportunity. Until that review is possible, however, the edict shall be law.

No it doesnt it leads to a dictatorship that only ends till the delegate CTE, making endorsement caps in theory sounds like a good idea but results in tyranny without freedom to Even gain endorsements and he is rule breaking your just being very biased, remember be unbiased and respect rules

BTW don't the most influential and most competent people are the one who are on the top?

And if raiders do come they're not listening to You, like literally, it also leads to Bad delegates getting a HUGE Reign and rights

Wert, Northern Wardorsinatinady, Free Filosia

hello how do i play?

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1870680

hehehe

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Wert

Edrenland wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1870680

hehehe

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um interesting dispatch....

Edrenland, Free Filosia

I have grave news - less than an hour ago, Acornesia, a vocal opponent of the current World Assembly Delegate, attempted to execute a coup against the Greater Sahara and its government.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1870687

What about the election

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Edrenland

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screw the election we have more importent things to do like talk abiut farming

L bozo

Wert

Edrenland wrote:scrwiscrew the election we have more importent things to do like talk abiut farming

L bozo

Not Nice!

Be Nice 🥰

Inner Kilvaka wrote:I have grave news - less than an hour ago, Acornesia, a vocal opponent of the current World Assembly Delegate, attempted to execute a coup against the Greater Sahara and its government.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1870687

what happened

srry i dnt mean to ping u that many times

Rainbowstaria wrote:Not Nice!

Be Nice 🥰

ok

Wert

Inner Kilvaka wrote:I have grave news - less than an hour ago, Acornesia, a vocal opponent of the current World Assembly Delegate, attempted to execute a coup against the Greater Sahara and its government.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1870687

you say the nations were joining the WA and endorsing this dude but i chekced and none of them joined the WA ? unless i looking at wrong natin?

Wert

Free Filosia wrote:what happened

Someone (Acornesia, to be precise) attempted to invade our region, but luckily we managed to stop them in time.

Free Filosia

Inner Kilvaka wrote:Someone (Acornesia, to be precise) attempted to invade our region, but luckily we managed to stop them in time.

ok thats good

NO NO NO YOU ARE ALL WRONG, i brought my puppets in at the same time Acornesia decided to join back into the region

they are NOT raiders and Lave Deldederady is a dictator! FREEDOM OF SPEECH

Free Filosia wrote:you say the nations were joining the WA and endorsing this dude but i chekced and none of them joined the WA ? unless i looking at wrong natin?

The main region feed doesn't show endorsements - here's a snippet from one of the nations that supported the invasion.

[pre]4/23/2023, 11:57:43 AM EDT: Ughhhhhhhh endorsed Acornesia.

4/23/2023, 11:54:16 AM EDT: Ughhhhhhhh was admitted to the World Assembly.

4/23/2023, 11:52:21 AM EDT: Ughhhhhhhh applied to join the World Assembly.

(snip)

4/18/2023, 11:18:16 AM EDT: Ughhhhhhhh relocated from The South Pacific to Greater Sahara.

4/18/2023, 11:17:43 AM EDT: Ughhhhhhhh was founded in The South Pacific.[/pre]

You'll note the immediate move to Greater Sahara to lie in wait, then the suspiciously perfect timing of joining the WA and endorsing Acornesia quickly after. This, and other activity like it made it clear that this was a coordinated invasion attempt

Inner Kilvaka wrote:The main region feed doesn't show endorsements - here's a snippet from one of the nations that supported the invasion.

[pre]4/23/2023, 11:57:43 AM EDT: Ughhhhhhhh endorsed Acornesia.

4/23/2023, 11:54:16 AM EDT: Ughhhhhhhh was admitted to the World Assembly.

4/23/2023, 11:52:21 AM EDT: Ughhhhhhhh applied to join the World Assembly.

(snip)

4/18/2023, 11:18:16 AM EDT: Ughhhhhhhh relocated from The South Pacific to Greater Sahara.

4/18/2023, 11:17:43 AM EDT: Ughhhhhhhh was founded in The South Pacific.[/pre]

You'll note the immediate move to Greater Sahara to lie in wait, then the suspiciously perfect timing of joining the WA and endorsing Acornesia quickly after. This, and other activity like it made it clear that this was a coordinated invasion attempt

ah ok that clears it up

Inner Kilvaka wrote:The main region feed doesn't show endorsements - here's a snippet from one of the nations that supported the invasion.

[pre]4/23/2023, 11:57:43 AM EDT: Ughhhhhhhh endorsed Acornesia.

4/23/2023, 11:54:16 AM EDT: Ughhhhhhhh was admitted to the World Assembly.

4/23/2023, 11:52:21 AM EDT: Ughhhhhhhh applied to join the World Assembly.

(snip)

4/18/2023, 11:18:16 AM EDT: Ughhhhhhhh relocated from The South Pacific to Greater Sahara.

4/18/2023, 11:17:43 AM EDT: Ughhhhhhhh was founded in The South Pacific.[/pre]

You'll note the immediate move to Greater Sahara to lie in wait, then the suspiciously perfect timing of joining the WA and endorsing Acornesia quickly after. This, and other activity like it made it clear that this was a coordinated invasion attempt

becuase yall are being tyrannts and setting an endo cap

Rainbowstaria, Edrenland

???

Free Filosia

Inner Kilvaka wrote:The main region feed doesn't show endorsements - here's a snippet from one of the nations that supported the invasion.

[pre]4/23/2023, 11:57:43 AM EDT: Ughhhhhhhh endorsed Acornesia.

4/23/2023, 11:54:16 AM EDT: Ughhhhhhhh was admitted to the World Assembly.

4/23/2023, 11:52:21 AM EDT: Ughhhhhhhh applied to join the World Assembly.

(snip)

4/18/2023, 11:18:16 AM EDT: Ughhhhhhhh relocated from The South Pacific to Greater Sahara.

4/18/2023, 11:17:43 AM EDT: Ughhhhhhhh was founded in The South Pacific.[/pre]

You'll note the immediate move to Greater Sahara to lie in wait, then the suspiciously perfect timing of joining the WA and endorsing Acornesia quickly after. This, and other activity like it made it clear that this was a coordinated invasion attempt

but wait there a 5 day space between them joining and endorsing acronesia unless im misreading?

Northern Wardorsinatinady wrote:becuase yall are being tyrannts and setting an endo cap

whats a endo cap

Northern Wardorsinatinady

Northern Wardorsinatinady wrote:becuase yall are being tyrannts and setting an endo cap

You are welcome to disagree with legislature, but that does not excuse an attempted coup.

Free Filosia

Free Filosia wrote:but wait there a 5 day space between them joining and endorsing acronesia unless im misreading?whats a endo cap

it prevents other people from becomeing the leader,which is authoritarian

Inner Kilvaka wrote:The main region feed doesn't show endorsements - here's a snippet from one of the nations that supported the invasion.

[pre]4/23/2023, 11:57:43 AM EDT: Ughhhhhhhh endorsed Acornesia.

4/23/2023, 11:54:16 AM EDT: Ughhhhhhhh was admitted to the World Assembly.

4/23/2023, 11:52:21 AM EDT: Ughhhhhhhh applied to join the World Assembly.

(snip)

4/18/2023, 11:18:16 AM EDT: Ughhhhhhhh relocated from The South Pacific to Greater Sahara.

4/18/2023, 11:17:43 AM EDT: Ughhhhhhhh was founded in The South Pacific.[/pre]

You'll note the immediate move to Greater Sahara to lie in wait, then the suspiciously perfect timing of joining the WA and endorsing Acornesia quickly after. This, and other activity like it made it clear that this was a coordinated invasion attempt

Where is your proof?

Can You please tell me?

Edrenland

no more endo cap cuz thats no fun lol

Northern Wardorsinatinady

Free Filosia wrote:but wait there a 5 day space between them joining and endorsing acronesia unless im misreading?whats a endo cap

thats becuase Ughhhhhh was the second person to EVER join the region, they are kicking member that were here whan the region started

Free Filosia

bro also forgor to ban me lol

Western Wardorsinatinady wrote:bro also forgor to ban me lol

if they really did care about region secruity they would have thourrily checked, not just ban opposition

Northern Wardorsinatinady wrote:it prevents other people from becomeing the leader,which is authoritarian

oh so then what was the problem with acronesia?

Northern Wardorsinatinady

Western Wardorsinatinady wrote:bro also forgor to ban me lol

what does that mean

Free Filosia wrote:oh so then what was the problem with acronesia?

nothing, they founded the region

Free Filosia wrote:but wait there a 5 day space between them joining and endorsing acronesia unless im misreading?whats a endo cap

We believe that this nation was lying in wait, or otherwise activated, to coordinate alongside the invasion force that attempted to illegitimately place Acornesia into the delegacy. The timing matches up extraordinarily well with the behavior we'd expect in that case.

I won't be taking further questions on the topic, because I believe that the evidence speaks for itself. Acornesia, regardless of which specific nations assisted them, clearly plotted and took action to seize the delegacy in an unlawful manner. We are lucky our security was sufficient to the task of preventing them from doing so.

Free Filosia

the dispatch said it was an election denier but if acronesia had more endorsemnets and became new delegate wouldnt that also be a fair election ?

Wert, Edrenland

Free Filosia wrote:the dispatch said it was an election denier but if acronesia had more endorsemnets and became new delegate wouldnt that also be a fair election ?

technically it would

Edrenland

acronesia is good right?

Northern Wardorsinatinady

Post by Northern Wardorsinatinady suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.

Northern Wardorsinatinady

Free Filosia wrote:the dispatch said it was an election denier but if acronesia had more endorsemnets and became new delegate wouldnt that also be a fair election ?

YES SO THEY BANNED A NATION THAT WAS GOING TO BE FAIRLY ELECTED

Edrenland wrote:acronesia is good right?

yes Edrenland, acornesia is good

Edrenland

Inner Kilvaka wrote:We believe that this nation was lying in wait, or otherwise activated, to coordinate alongside the invasion force that attempted to illegitimately place Acornesia into the delegacy. The timing matches up extraordinarily well with the behavior we'd expect in that case.

I won't be taking further questions on the topic, because I believe that the evidence speaks for itself. Acornesia, regardless of which specific nations assisted them, clearly plotted and took action to seize the delegacy in an unlawful manner. We are lucky our security was sufficient to the task of preventing them from doing so.

oh but thatd mean rheh were waiting for 5 days in advance and lave delderedy wasnt delegate for that long right?

Northern Wardorsinatinady, Edrenland

Free Filosia wrote:oh but thatd mean rheh were waiting for 5 days in advance and lave delderedy wasnt delegate for that long right?

LAVE WAS NOT DELEGATE WHEN Ughhhhhhhh JOINED THE REGION< THEY ARE JUST MAKING UP AN EXCUSE TO BAN THEM, STOP THIS OPPRESSION! UNBANAcornesia!!

Edrenland

why cant acronesia be leader

that is the best move right now right?

Northern Wardorsinatinady

Edrenland wrote:why cant acronesia be leader

that is the best move right now right?

EXACTLY!!

Northern Wardorsinatinady wrote:LAVE WAS NOT DELEGATE WHEN Ughhhhhhhh JOINED THE REGION< THEY ARE JUST MAKING UP AN EXCUSE TO BAN THEM, STOP THIS OPPRESSION! UNBANAcornesia!!

Stop using all caps.

Acornesia clearly led an invasion attempt, regardless of which nations were or were not involved in a specific role in that attempt, or how long invaders may have been lying in wait.

Edrenland wrote:why cant acronesia be leader

that is the best move right now right?

Acronesia has committed treason in attempting to use outside influence and invasions to seize the delegacy and thus is not a valid candidate for leader.

Inner Kilvaka wrote:Stop using all caps.

Acornesia clearly led an invasion attempt, regardless of which nations were or were not involved in a specific role in that attempt, or how long invaders may have been lying in wait.

wait ou said ughhhh was one of them, but I dot see anybody see having endorsed acronesia recently in the national happenings

acronesia be best player in this game

acronesia be craked at nation states

acronesia should be leader of this place

acronesia is a W

acronesia is best leader

Northern Wardorsinatinady, Rainbowstaria, Free Filosia

sorry im just confused whats going on

Free Filosia wrote:sorry im just confused whats going on

acronesia shold be leader

Post by Northern Wardorsinatinady suppressed by Lave Deldederady.

Northern Wardorsinatinady

MekhreTyreumStalanupWaldropMacakoFirst Nightmare

I strongly recommend that ALL OF YOU UNENDORSE Lave Deldederady AS THEY ARE A CLEAR TYRANNT!!!

Edrenland

Post by Edrenland suppressed by Lave Deldederady.

Edrenland

Northern Wardorsinatinady wrote: MekhreTyreumStalanupWaldropMacakoFirst Nightmare

I strongly recommend that ALL OF YOU UNENDORSE Lave Deldederady AS THEY ARE A CLEAR TYRANNT!!!

i agree (not that that say much) but acronesiais just better ngl

Northern Wardorsinatinady

Post by Northern Wardorsinatinady suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.

Northern Wardorsinatinady

Inner Kilvaka wrote:Acronesia has committed treason in attempting to use outside influence and invasions to seize the delegacy and thus is not a valid candidate for leader.

NO IT IS YOU COMMITING TREASON, AGAINST THE CONSTITION AND AGAINST GREATER SAHARA

Edrenland

Northern Wardorsinatinady wrote:NO IT IS YOU COMMITING TREASON, AGAINST THE CONSTITION AND AGAINST GREATER SAHARA

Stop using all caps.

Post by Northern Wardorsinatinady suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.

Northern Wardorsinatinady

I WOULD RATHER NOT

Inner Kilvaka wrote:Stop using all caps.

what so bad about useing caps huh? huh? caps are cool yeah!

Western Wardorsinatinady

Edrenland wrote:what so bad about useing caps huh? huh? caps are cool yeah!

against the rules apparently but I think it should be allowed

Western Wardorsinatinady

Post by Western Wardorsinatinady suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.

Western Wardorsinatinady

Edrenland wrote:what so bad about useing caps huh? huh? caps are cool yeah!

THEY ARE COOL!

Sorry for the wait on the ban of the other traitor, he moved in with Acorn during the invasion attempt. They failed their coup and are now trying to see chaos.

Inner Kilvaka

Post by Edrenland suppressed by Lave Deldederady.

Edrenland

why y suppressed norhtern wardorsinatiandry

Upon further investigation we found evidence of another traitor who has also been banned

Lave Deldederady wrote:Sorry for the wait on the ban of the other traitor, he moved in with Acorn during the invasion attempt. They failed their coup and are now trying to see chaos.

but he never endorsed acorn nor joined world assemblh, also why is acorn a traitor what did he do I still don’t understand

this is bs, what ever happened. to allowing political opposition

Free Filosia

Lave Deldederady wrote:Upon further investigation we found evidence of another traitor who has also been banned

what edrenland did nothing he just said acronesia should be leader the hell

why are we banning people just for disagreeing

Free Filosia wrote:what edrenland did nothing he just said acronesia should be leader the hell

No, he was supporting through the WA during the invasion

Western Wardorsinatinady wrote:this is bs, what ever happened. to allowing political opposition

Political opposition is allowed. Inciting, defending, and especially participating in a coup and usurpation attempt is not.

Lave Deldederady wrote:No, he was supporting through the WA during the invasion

but endorsing is voting for someone hes not a foreigner he was just endorsing (voting) for acronesia

Awkward

kinda asad, losing all your reigonal influence banning us

Free Filosia

Inner Kilvaka wrote:Political opposition is allowed. Inciting, defending, and especially participating in a coup and usurpation attempt is not.

but all acronesia did was try to get elected as leader ?

Free Filosia wrote:why are we banning people just for disagreeing

We are not, we are banning those we are finding had aided in the coup attempt.

well you gonna have to ban me then

Free Filosia wrote:but endorsing is voting for someone hes not a foreigner he was just endorsing (voting) for acronesia

He was supporting an invasion when Acorn entered the region alongside a group of puppets.

Inner Kilvaka

Lave Deldederady wrote:We are not, we are banning those we are finding had aided in the coup attempt.

all he did was vote for acronesia to be delegate

Amos Burn

Awkward wrote:well you gonna have to ban me then

Okay, have fun in TRR :)

Lave Deldederady wrote:He was supporting an invasion when Acorn entered the region alongside a group of puppets.

but acorn was always in the region hes founder?

Amos Burn

Free Filosia wrote:but acorn was always in the region hes founder?

That’s not how a frontier works - he has no real power or right to the region.

Free Filosia wrote:all he did was vote for acronesia to be delegate

Like I said before, the timing of his vote is incredibly suspicious when viewed alongside the timeline of the coup attempt. Between this and his overall general lack of activity, we have found probable cause to declare them an invader and an enemy of the state, and they have been dealt with accordingly. Further refusal to acknowledge this fact will be treated as willful ignorance.

Lave Deldederady wrote:That’s not how a frontier works - he has no real power or right to the region.

You are still disrespecting his authority

Without him You arent where You are

Right now

Amos Burn

Post by Amos Burn suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.

Amos Burn

Lave Deldederady wrote:He was supporting an invasion when Acorn entered the region alongside a group of puppets.

NAH EDRENLAND WASNT EVEN PART OF OUR PLAN THING YALL BANNED HIM FOR SPEAKING HIS MIND

Rainbowstaria wrote:You are still disrespecting his authority

Without him You arent where You are

Right now

He has no authority, and even if he did, it was forfeit when he supported an invasion.

Rainbowstaria wrote:You are still disrespecting his authority

Without him You arent where You are t

Right now

He has no authority. He gave that up when he made this a frontier. He gave up any respect when he tried to invade the region.

Inner Kilvaka

Inner Kilvaka wrote:Like I said before, the timing of his vote is incredibly suspicious when viewed alongside the timeline of the coup attempt. Between this and his overall general lack of activity, we have found probable cause to declare them an invader and an enemy of the state, and they have been dealt with accordingly. Further refusal to acknowledge this fact will be treated as willful ignorance.

how is disagreeing with you willful ignorance, he voted for acronesia wayyyy before the “coup attempt”, unrelated to the “coup”, plus its a coup if acronesia is democratically elected by the citizens of the region ? no foreigners voted for him, sure people cam at the same time as him but none of them were WA and none voted for him

to me it seems like you only banned him because he would have become new delegate

Post by Amos Burn suppressed by Lave Deldederady.

Amos Burn

ok yall gotta stop and just remove the endo caps

Lave Deldederady wrote:He has no authority. He gave that up when he made this a frontier. He gave up any respect when he tried to invade the region.

You gave up all your respect for your people by creating a tyranny

Oh lord and saviour may the crisis end!

Akiba Rubinstein, Free Filosia

Amos Burn wrote:ok yall gotta stop and just remove the endo caps

why is this suppressed its just an political opinion

Rainbowstaria wrote:You gave up all your respect for your people by creating a tyranny

Oh lord and saviour may the crisis end!

save Greater Sahara

Rainbowstaria

Rainbowstaria wrote:You gave up all your respect for your people by creating a tyranny

Oh lord and saviour may the crisis end!

I have only tried to bring security and safety in this time of transition - Acorn started stirring the pot. He started attempting to remove me. He gathered invaders and attempted to remove me by foreign force.

Free Filosia wrote:why is this suppressed its just an political opinion

That user clearly relocated to the region just to espouse their propoganda.

[pre]Seconds ago: Amos Burn lodged a message on the Greater Sahara Regional Message Board.

Seconds ago: Amos Burn relocated from European Union to Greater Sahara.

Seconds ago: Amos Burn relocated from The Order of the Grey Wardens to European Union.

1 minute ago: Amos Burn relocated from 10000 Islands to The Order of the Grey Wardens.

1 minute ago: Amos Burn relocated from The South Pacific to 10000 Islands.

1 minute ago: Amos Burn relocated from The North Pacific to The South Pacific.

1 minute ago: Amos Burn relocated from Chess Players to The North Pacific. [/pre]

Free Filosia

i still dont know whats happening why cant someone explain to me without bias?

one side is saying hes a traitor even tho they dont explain what makes him a traitor

the other is saying hes the best and should be elected even without explaining why

Aron Nimzowitsch

Lave Deldederady wrote:I have only tried to bring security and safety in this time of transition - Acorn started stirring the pot. He started attempting to remove me. He gathered invaders and attempted to remove me by foreign force.

but wheres the proof no foreign nations endorsed him, all of his 11 endorsements were from nations either founded here or moved here on day 1 of the region

Free Filosia wrote:i still dont know whats happening why cant someone explain to me without bias?

one side is saying hes a traitor even tho they dont explain what makes him a traitor

the other is saying hes the best and should be elected even without explaining why

We have explained at length why we have decided to deem Acornesia a traitor - they supported a coup, an invasion, a usurpation, whatever you want to call it.

The other side, what remains of it, is composed of propogandists, which is why they can't give a sound explanation for their support of the "election" of an invading power. They're just trying to sow chaos.

Free Filosia wrote:i still dont know whats happening why cant someone explain to me without bias?

one side is saying hes a traitor even tho they dont explain what makes him a traitor

the other is saying hes the best and should be elected even without explaining why

because they were going to be the legitament delegate

Free Filosia wrote:i still dont know whats happening why cant someone explain to me without bias?

one side is saying hes a traitor even tho they dont explain what makes him a traitor

the other is saying hes the best and should be elected even without explaining why

Acorn is a traitor because he broke new endo cap laws which have been out in place temporarily while we finish our election process. Upset with these laws he broke them and then attempted to remove me by force. He worked with another group, including other people from the region, to try and invade to remove me. He was banned and now the traitors are continuing to enter our message board after being banned to try and spread chaos and lies.

Inner Kilvaka wrote:We have explained at length why we have decided to deem Acornesia a traitor - they supported a coup, an invasion, a usurpation, whatever you want to call it.

The other side, what remains of it, is composed of propogandists, which is why they can't give a sound explanation for their election. They're just trying to sow chaos.

but why is it a coup and not simply an election?? the constitution, unless maybe its outdated says that delegate is elected by in game mechanics and in game mechanics have endorsements as votes

wouldnt you be the side performing a coup by preventing his election??

Lave Deldederady wrote:Acorn is a traitor because he broke new endo cap laws which have been out in place temporarily while we finish our election process. Upset with these laws he broke them and then attempted to remove me by force. He worked with another group, including other people from the region, to try and invade to remove me. He was banned and now the traitors are continuing to enter our message board after being banned to try and spread chaos and lies.

but why should we have an endo cap the constitution says delegate is elected an endo cap prevents people from voting for anyone other than you

Free Filosia wrote:but why is it a coup and not simply an election?? the constitution, unless maybe its outdated says that delegate is elected by in game mechanics and in game mechanics have endorsements as votes

wouldnt you be the side performing a coup by preventing his election??

He broke the endo cap laws and then moved in with a group of puppets, that’s an invasion.

Inner Kilvaka

Free Filosia wrote:but why should we have an endo cap the constitution says delegate is elected an endo cap prevents people from voting for anyone other than you

This has been explained many times but it is a temporary security measure while we finalize our congressional offices.

Inner Kilvaka

cause nothings gonna hold me backi

Lave Deldederady wrote:This has been explained many times but it is a temporary security measure while we finalize our congressional offices.

but why? weve never been raided, why would you add this law as soon as youve been elected? and if thats the case why would you enforce it on someone whos clearly not an invader?

Lave Deldederady wrote:He broke the endo cap laws and then moved in with a group of puppets, that’s an invasion.

but none of the puppets endorsed him, all of his endorsements were from citizens

Carl Hamppe

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