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I still think that removing the Delegate from Head of Government is a bad idea

Frontier update looking fire

Wert

Inner Kilvaka wrote:I'm not sure about having two different election seasons - wouldn't it be simpler to hold a legislator vote whenever we get a new delegate?

that could work

Inner Kilvaka

I did make this server but I haven't had time to mess with it. I think it would be easier to conduct our day to day regional happenings on it though. discord.gg/GDfW8dPcQ7

Wert

Lave Deldederady wrote:I still think that removing the Delegate from Head of Government is a bad idea

Agreed - anything else just adds unnecessary complexity. Why not have it that the voting system puts the delegate as head of government, and then have them appoint a legislative department or hold elections for legislators?

Lave Deldederady

Lave Deldederady wrote:I did make this server but I haven't had time to mess with it. I think it would be easier to conduct our day to day regional happenings on it though. discord.gg/GDfW8dPcQ7

I dont quite use it much but i guess it would be viable i already have it, if you see a diff name its just the name of my acc dont bug with it its nothing

Lave Deldederady

Lave Deldederady wrote:I did make this server but I haven't had time to mess with it. I think it would be easier to conduct our day to day regional happenings on it though. discord.gg/GDfW8dPcQ7

i feel like we could do the the discussion in the RMB as not everyone has discord

Acornesia

Wert wrote:i feel like we could do the the discussion in the RMB as not everyone has discord

There is something about the aesthetics of the RMB that makes it different and better from Discord

Acornesia, Wert

Mekhre wrote:There is something about the aesthetics of the RMB that makes it different and better from Discord

i agree

Mekhre

Mekhre wrote:There is something about the aesthetics of the RMB that makes it different and better from Discord

I quite agree but in discord you have less limitations by the rules and you can post more freely

Normal conversations can also be held while in the RMB you have to mention something trully important

but maybe im wrong, its not like i know much abt this XD

Wert

Rainbowstaria wrote:Go to an image right click and save it when you click the image it will be stored in archives or use a flag creator like these

https://flag-creator.com/

https://tennessine.co.uk/flags/

Thanks! I went to play video games, but I'll look at these

Wert, Rainbowstaria, Lave Deldederady

I don't have a discord, I'd rather talk here

Acornesia, Rainbowstaria

Hey everyone, make sure you are endorsing Wert and others that you want to endorse, I try and endorse everyone who endorses me back!

Wert, Rainbowstaria

We survived the last WA update from raiders...lets hope we survive the next one as well

Mekhre, Lave Deldederady, Tyreum

Wait what's the WA?

Hiya!

I selected "other" for my favorite day of the week, because it depends on whether I have Thursday or Saturday off on a given week lol

Mekhre, Wert, Rainbowstaria

Hey everyone, I just wanted to spread the word that we've agreed on a draft of the governmental structure of Greater Sahara. You can find it here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1869232

Additionally, I'd like to announce my candidacy for the position of elected legislator when the polls open. I'd appreciate your support as our little government finds its footing :)

Mekhre, Wert, Tyreum, Greater Chicati

I got a flag!

Mekhre, Wert, Inner Kilvaka, Greater Chicati

Tyreum wrote:I got a flag!

It looks good

Wert, Tyreum

I would also like to announce a project to build an RMB roleplay, basically you can choose to join as your nation on NS or make a fictional one just for roleplay, allowing you to rule an authoritarian nation on the RP while being democratic on NS.

Wert, Inner Kilvaka

That sounds really cool!

Mekhre, Wert

I figured out the WA

Mekhre

Tyreum wrote:I figured out the WA

Free Endorsement right away!

Thanks!

Rainbowstaria

Hello everyone

Mekhre, Wert, Rainbowstaria

Stalanup wrote:Hello everyone

Greetings!+How are you?

Spicy Dog Soup

Stalanup wrote:Hello everyone

Hi

Rainbowstaria

Rainbowstaria wrote:Greetings!+How are you?

I'm good, yourself?

Rainbowstaria

Stalanup wrote:I'm good, yourself?

Im doing fine thanks or asking!

Inner Kilvaka wrote:I'm not sure about having two different election seasons - wouldn't it be simpler to hold a legislator vote whenever we get a new delegate?

That’s clever

Inner Kilvaka wrote:Hey everyone, I just wanted to spread the word that we've agreed on a draft of the governmental structure of Greater Sahara. You can find it here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1869232

Additionally, I'd like to announce my candidacy for the position of elected legislator when the polls open. I'd appreciate your support as our little government finds its footing :)

Make sure to add that for foreigners (non-citizens) there will be an endorsement cap, pending what it is though

I still like my dispatched idea, what’s the difference?

Anyway, it’s a bit early in the morning for me so I’m going to try and catch up on rest. I’ll see you later

Wert

The flag’s colors are a bit clashing, but it’s good for a starter.

Also, we’re the second largest frontier!

Wert

Apologies for tripleposting, but from what I understand, the government system we’re going with is just my proposal but 1/3 of the legislators is elected by delegate?

Mekhre, Wert

Acornesia wrote:Apologies for tripleposting, but from what I understand, the government system we’re going with is just my proposal but 1/3 of the legislators is elected by delegate?

basically

I am a god

An amongus god

Acornesia wrote:Apologies for tripleposting, but from what I understand, the government system we’re going with is just my proposal but 1/3 of the legislators is elected by delegate?

We based it off of your original proposal with some changes from our discord side discussion

Acornesia, Inner Kilvaka

Statement on the resignation of Inner Kilvaka from the World Assembly

Fellow citizens of the Greater Sahara,

Some of you may have noticed Inner Kilvaka's withdrawal from the World Assembly.

The reason for this withdrawal owes to the current issue at vote in the General Assembly. Under the proposed legislation, no member nation of the WA may prosecute or otherwise penalize those who are found in possession of psychoactive drugs.

It is my belief that, without an effective rehabilitation system encouraged by the WA, the current proposal neither bolsters the States rights to enforce the law, nor the intended purpose of protecting those who are addicted or falling into addiction to illicit substances.

Further, the current proposal fails to recognize the implicit power of the State to distribute penalties against those who violate the laws of that State.

As a symbolic and practical gesture of abstention, Inner Kilvaka has resigned from the World Assembly in response to these flaws. Note that this does not represent the Greater Sahara's political views as a whole, but rather my personal beliefs and disagreements with the issue at vote.

Acornesia, Astarter, Mekhre, Wert, Rainbowstaria, Lave Deldederady

Lave Deldederady wrote:We based it off of your original proposal with some changes from our discord side discussion

I really feel like a discussion as important as that should’ve been had here, but alright. What changes were made then?

Astarter, Rainbowstaria

I can design a better flag, I’ll keep the concept but make the colors less clashing. Sound good everyone?

Wert, Inner Kilvaka

Hey guys, I am new to this game hope you guys are having a fantastic weekend! I chose Thursday as my favorite day because its my only day off.

Acornesia, Wert

Spicy Dog Soup wrote:Hey guys, I am new to this game hope you guys are having a fantastic weekend! I chose Thursday as my favorite day because its my only day off.

Welcome to NationStates! If there’s anything you want to ask, feel free!

Wert

Acornesia wrote:I can design a better flag, I’ll keep the concept but make the colors less clashing. Sound good everyone?

that sounds fine

Acornesia wrote:I really feel like a discussion as important as that should’ve been had here, but alright. What changes were made then?

We figured the faster-paced nature of discussing the regional constitution would've been hampered by doing it here, so we decided to do things on the discord server. The big bullet points are the head of state is the world assembly delegate, and the head of government is the legislator in chief, who is chosen by the legislators, of whom two are elected and one is chosen by the delegate. This way, we have a balance of power between the delegate, the citizens, and the legislative branch. All in all, pretty similar to your proposal, but tidied up, formalized, and a couple of minutiae added to keep things fair and balanced.

Acornesia wrote:I can design a better flag, I’ll keep the concept but make the colors less clashing. Sound good everyone?

Actually, I think we should have a flag contest.

Wert

Inner Kilvaka wrote:We figured the faster-paced nature of discussing the regional constitution would've been hampered by doing it here, so we decided to do things on the discord server. The big bullet points are the head of state is the world assembly delegate, and the head of government is the legislator in chief, who is chosen by the legislators, of whom two are elected and one is chosen by the delegate. This way, we have a balance of power between the delegate, the citizens, and the legislative branch. All in all, pretty similar to your proposal, but tidied up, formalized, and a couple of minutiae added to keep things fair and balanced.

I feel like we should have better names than legislator and chief and legislators, those are too long and unpleasant. How about Chancellor for legislator in chief, and Elector for legislators? Or Member of Parliament

Acornesia wrote:Actually, I think we should have a flag contest.

Thats a good idea! we can randomly choose a nation in the region the be the judge!

Acornesia wrote:I feel like we should have better names than legislator and chief and legislators, those are too long and unpleasant. How about Chancellor for legislator in chief, and Elector for legislators? Or Member of Parliament

the names arent the biggest issue rn, we'll fix them up later

Acornesia

Acornesia wrote:I can design a better flag, I’ll keep the concept but make the colors less clashing. Sound good everyone?

That is fine i think i did a good job with the flag i appreciate the constructive criticism i usually get only praise with these but thank you!

Also the flag made was by Werts suggestions so it might have not been perfect.

I shouldve put black tripes on the triangle aswell actually.

Acornesia, Wert

Rainbowstaria wrote:That is fine i think i did a good job with the flag i appreciate the constructive criticism i usually get only praise with these but thank you!

Also the flag made was by Werts suggestions so it might have not been perfect.

I shouldve put black tripes on the triangle aswell actually.

I like the idea of having a camel on it but the colors clash and it looks a bit strange

Wert, Rainbowstaria

I think we should do a more abstract and modern looking flag

Macako, Stalanup

Acornesia wrote:Actually, I think we should have a flag contest.

Me/Astarter will be one of the designers ig, if I can find out how you guys make flags

Wert

Regne De L Empereur wrote:Me/Astarter will be one of the designers ig, if I can find out how you guys make flags

This is fact

Region is looking good.

Wert

Inner Kilvaka wrote:Statement on the resignation of Inner Kilvaka from the World Assembly

Fellow citizens of the Greater Sahara,

Some of you may have noticed Inner Kilvaka's withdrawal from the World Assembly.

The reason for this withdrawal owes to the current issue at vote in the General Assembly. Under the proposed legislation, no member nation of the WA may prosecute or otherwise penalize those who are found in possession of psychoactive drugs.

It is my belief that, without an effective rehabilitation system encouraged by the WA, the current proposal neither bolsters the States rights to enforce the law, nor the intended purpose of protecting those who are addicted or falling into addiction to illicit substances.

Further, the current proposal fails to recognize the implicit power of the State to distribute penalties against those who violate the laws of that State.

As a symbolic and practical gesture of abstention, Inner Kilvaka has resigned from the World Assembly in response to these flaws. Note that this does not represent the Greater Sahara's political views as a whole, but rather my personal beliefs and disagreements with the issue at vote.

so many baseless, badly written and contradictive proposals come into play

Proposals are like issues, theyre in for the sake of quantity and have something to do,you have these baseless, ignorant and contradictive proposals, and the one who makes these are members of the WA, most of WA members only listen to the Delegates word or just vote randomly.

So it all depends weve had proposals like this a couple of times thats why they are repealed

The resignment in question could be justifiable for oc rp

but if you look at it a little bit more, its more like you always get bad proposals out of many of them

The WA has completelly shaped its posture and the majority who use it do endorse4endorse type things

Astarter, Wert, Inner Kilvaka

how do I have war

Zeronoka wrote:how do I have war

You cant it iisnt a feature

although rp does exist

Wert

Acornesia wrote:I think we should do a more abstract and modern looking flag

Let's try and see designs to vote on yeah

Wert

Acornesia wrote:I think we should do a more abstract and modern looking flag

Agreed

Stalanup

HOLIDAYS are the best days of the week

Wert, Rainbowstaria, Inner Kilvaka

Zong Jam Dan wrote:HOLIDAYS are the best days of the week

Do holidays count as days of the week? Christmas, for example, keeps changing which day of the week it falls on.

Also hi, how're you?

Wert, Rainbowstaria

Inner Kilvaka wrote:Do holidays count as days of the week? Christmas, for example, keeps changing which day of the week it falls on.

Also hi, how're you?

I am good fine gentleperson! I hope you are too!! Holidays do count trust me!!

Wert, Rainbowstaria, Inner Kilvaka

Zong Jam Dan wrote:I am good fine gentleperson! I hope you are too!! Holidays do count trust me!!

Maybe an honorary third weekend then? And I'm doing dandy, thanks! :) I take it you're new to our lovely region?

Inner Kilvaka wrote:Maybe an honorary third weekend then? And I'm doing dandy, thanks! :) I take it you're new to our lovely region?

What is a region? I see a lot of telegrams that were flooding in about people and regions but I am so confused?

Wert, Rainbowstaria, Inner Kilvaka

Zong Jam Dan wrote:What is a region? I see a lot of telegrams that were flooding in about people and regions but I am so confused?

Well, to put it simply, a region is sort of like a country - it can have laws, people (like you and me), a government, all sorts of stuff. If that sounds confusing, don't worry - it's also just a place where similar nations can hang out.

Right now, you're in the Greater Sahara, which is the name of our region. If you decide you like it here, you can stay as long as you like. It's a pretty new region, so we're still figuring a lot of stuff out about what the region should do and be. (If you're interested in that sort of thing, helping build a community, or just want to chat without cluttering the RMB, a lot of us are on a discord server. You don't have to, but you're welcome to join - the invite is https://discord.gg/Ep5ypcB6)

Rainbowstaria

Inner Kilvaka wrote:Well, to put it simply, a region is sort of like a country - it can have laws, people (like you and me), a government, all sorts of stuff. If that sounds confusing, don't worry - it's also just a place where similar nations can hang out.

Right now, you're in the Greater Sahara, which is the name of our region. If you decide you like it here, you can stay as long as you like. It's a pretty new region, so we're still figuring a lot of stuff out about what the region should do and be. (If you're interested in that sort of thing, helping build a community, or just want to chat without cluttering the RMB, a lot of us are on a discord server. You don't have to, but you're welcome to join - the invite is https://discord.gg/Ep5ypcB6)

I mean, RMBs are meant for chatting so “chatting without cluttering the RMB” is a bit redundant lol

If you want to chat without cluttering the discord, feel free to talk here

Astarter, Wert, Rainbowstaria

When the current poll is done, we should hold Legislative elections, who will be running?

Wert wrote:When the current poll is done, we should hold Legislative elections, who will be running?

I would run, but I plan on possibly running as delegate (not that I have any problems with your reign), so for now I’ll remain politically inactive

Wert

https://imgur.com/cfd6edf8-59cc-4104-82cc-101aa6140676

What do you all think of this as a possible flag?

Acornesia wrote:https://imgur.com/cfd6edf8-59cc-4104-82cc-101aa6140676

What do you all think of this as a possible flag?

Hold on, let me add a camel

Acornesia wrote:https://imgur.com/cfd6edf8-59cc-4104-82cc-101aa6140676

What do you all think of this as a possible flag?

https://imgur.com/a/eUhj8wU

With a camel

Wert, Rainbowstaria, Stalanup

Acornesia wrote:https://imgur.com/a/eUhj8wU

With a camel

that looks pretty good!

Does anyone else have any flag suggestions?

Stalanup

Wert wrote:that looks pretty good!

Does anyone else have any flag suggestions?

I like this one as well

Wert

Wert wrote:When the current poll is done, we should hold Legislative elections, who will be running?

What's the position?

Wert

Astarter wrote:What's the position?

for legislator

Acornesia wrote:https://imgur.com/a/eUhj8wU

With a camel

I think it's a bit too simple by the standard of modern look but i quite like it it has a Nice touch

Wert wrote:for legislator

I would love to run

Even if i fail itll all be good for all of us😁

Wert, Kabreia

Rainbowstaria wrote:I think it's a bit too simple by the standard of modern look but i quite like it it has a Nice touch

I don’t think it’s too simple, most modern flags are the same if not simpler

Rainbowstaria

So are we going with my flag for now?

Wert, Lave Deldederady

Acornesia wrote:So are we going with my flag for now?

i was going to wait for more suggestions and have a random nation pick the winner but i guess we could ask a random nation rn

On the subject of the Security Council - I see no real reason to pass this resolution. It seems mostly to worry about the actions of the region itself but I do not see that as a reason to Injunct them. However, I am not going to argue against others voting how they feel. Just wanted to explain my reasoning to y'all as the region seemed split pretty evenly on it and would love to discuss the resolution here. :)

Mekhre, Wert, Inner Kilvaka

I believe I have endorsed everyone, I would love to get endorsements back as well! If I missed you when endorsing let me know in telegrams, discord, or here and I will rectify that.

Acornesia wrote:So are we going with my flag for now?

I like it a lot, if it were up to me I'd say go for it

Lave Deldederady

Acornesia wrote:So are we going with my flag for now?

I like it :)

Inner Kilvaka

Wert wrote:i was going to wait for more suggestions and have a random nation pick the winner but i guess we could ask a random nation rn

Wait

I thought we were having a competiton, like, we all make suggestions at the same time.

Aren't there only two suggestions

Wert wrote:for legislator

What does it do? What's it's position on the hierarchy?

Astarter wrote:Wait

I thought we were having a competiton, like, we all make suggestions at the same time.

Aren't there only two suggestions What does it do? What's it's position on the hierarchy?

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1869232

Lave Deldederady wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1869232

Ah I see

Sure I guess I'll run then Wert

Wert

Big announcement today!

First, I'd like to announce The Elections Act, which has just been agreed upon by a majority consensus over Discord (which can be found here: https://discord.gg/Ep5ypcB6) and will define how this and future elections take place.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1870199

Under the Elections Act, candidates will be decided on by a first-past-the-post election held by the World Assembly Delegate. For security reasons, all voters and candidates must be in the World Assembly for their votes to count/to be eligible for office, respectively.

Second, I am announcing my candidacy for one of the seats in legislature. I believe that my track record of writing policy and legislature for the region make me an ideal candidate, and I would really appreciate your support!

Third and finally, under the same Elections Act that I just now posted, I am returning to the World Assembly so that I am eligible for office. While I still have my gripes with the World Assembly and how it is run, I believe that I can do more good for the region if I take the bad alongside the good that being in the World Assembly entails in order to continue to write legislature for the Greater Sahara.

Thank you for your support, and I hope to see you in the ballot boxes!

Lave Deldederady

so i just want to get one thing clear, Only three people are running for legislator

?

Inner Kilvaka

Hey I'm new I would like to say thank you for letting me in this seem like a good group

Wert, Inner Kilvaka

Wait, running sounds fun! I guess I'll make a discord then!

Wert, Inner Kilvaka, Lave Deldederady

Do we have a discord link somewhere?

Wert, Lave Deldederady

Tyreum wrote:Do we have a discord link somewhere?

https://discord.gg/36C9XKTeEX

Inner Kilvaka, Lave Deldederady

It seems I made an account last year and never used it, lol! But joining now

Wert, Inner Kilvaka, Lave Deldederady

Inner Kilvaka wrote:Big announcement today!

First, I'd like to announce The Elections Act, which has just been agreed upon by a majority consensus over Discord (which can be found here: https://discord.gg/Ep5ypcB6) and will define how this and future elections take place.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1870199

Under the Elections Act, candidates will be decided on by a first-past-the-post election held by the World Assembly Delegate. For security reasons, all voters and candidates must be in the World Assembly for their votes to count/to be eligible for office, respectively.

Second, I am announcing my candidacy for one of the seats in legislature. I believe that my track record of writing policy and legislature for the region make me an ideal candidate, and I would really appreciate your support!

Third and finally, under the same Elections Act that I just now posted, I am returning to the World Assembly so that I am eligible for office. While I still have my gripes with the World Assembly and how it is run, I believe that I can do more good for the region if I take the bad alongside the good that being in the World Assembly entails in order to continue to write legislature for the Greater Sahara.

Thank you for your support, and I hope to see you in the ballot boxes!

Guys I wish you'd share it over here first, there are plenty of people without discord or don't want to join the server.

RMBs are for chatting, chatting isn't clutter smh

Acornesia, Wert

We should also not be an embassy collector and should be more strict with our embassy openings, like the bigger regions.

Acornesia, Lave Deldederady

Astarter wrote:We should also not be an embassy collector and should be more strict with our embassy openings, like the bigger regions.

I agree, I think our Head of Government once elected should create a Ministry of Foreign affairs. Inner Kilvaka, thoughts?

Astarter, Wert, Rainbowstaria

Lave Deldederady wrote:I agree, I think our Head of Government once elected should create a Ministry of Foreign affairs. Inner Kilvaka, thoughts?

That sounds like a fine idea

Lave Deldederady

Lave Deldederady wrote:I agree, I think our Head of Government once elected should create a Ministry of Foreign affairs. Inner Kilvaka, thoughts?

Yes but i feel like the first few regions that we have a relationship with should keep embassy status

Lave Deldederady

Wert wrote:Yes but i feel like the first few regions that we have a relationship with should keep embassy status

Exactly we need alliances not embassy collectors that use scripts to spam request embassies

Wert, Lave Deldederady

Lave Deldederady wrote:I agree, I think our Head of Government once elected should create a Ministry of Foreign affairs. Inner Kilvaka, thoughts?

Exactly, Embassy Collectors are pointless embassies to have and pointless regions, there's no region for a region to exist just to spam embassy requests with new nations

Wert, Rainbowstaria, Lave Deldederady

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