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Region: Greater Sahara
Post by Fort Trenton suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
a
does it have war medics
Lave Deldederady
nope, rip
Rainbowstaria, Lave Deldederady
That's reasonable - this is a very turbulent time, and there's a lot of conflicting information being thrown around.
The short version is, there's been some disagreement over some of the legislature and policies put in place to keep things stable while we get the region on it's feet. Rather than discuss their grievances, some people have decided to embark on a campaign to usurp our rightful delegate and attempt to coup the delegacy for their own ends.
I disagree with the endorsement cap
And as a new person if the endorsement are elections for delegate, simply by putting a cap seems more wrong then to try and defend yourself.
The endorsement cap wasn't the only thing that has me on their side, but after putting a context to my joke got me suppressed, it was off
Post by Rainbowstaria suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
say that when i become delegate
Post by Rainbowstaria suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
silence me all you want your getting banned the next 9 minutes im 2 ahead
Just like nearly every time I go on a military operation, I expect to go into I put my armour on show you how strong I am mode and then get ejected and banned by another delegacy
[sub]I dont mean Rainbowstaria by the way..[/sub]
Yes I am trying to be civil and have conversations, still trying to see both sides further and pick it
Fort Trenton
I apologize if your comment was wrongfully suppressed - when things settle down, I can review and possibly unsuppress it if you like.
Just do understand I am more on rainbowstaria side at the moment
Fort Trenton, Rainbowstaria
Post by Rainbowstaria suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
yeha...
lets just wait
Fort Trenton, Stalanup
Post by Rainbowstaria suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
thank you stalanup im not helping myself
He has simply said "yeah, lets just wait"
To me, seems more like waiting to see how it turns out and nothing against anyone. This is not helping your case in my eyes
Rainbowstaria
Rainbowstaria has made no secret of their contempt for the current delegate and system of government.
Post by Rainbowstaria suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
i mean i dont really care by know i shoudlnt have been that cocky that was uncalled for im very inexperieced
i hope to improve from that
I have noticed but that is more to see waiting. That seemed in to contempt to anyone and therefore seems to have no valid reason of a suppression
This better not get the same treatment
Rainbowstaria
Since they are leading a revolt attempt, Rainbowstaria is currently suppress-on-sight by our security officers to prevent their propoganda from misleading others and in so doing damaging regional security.
Post by Rainbowstaria suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
they think you are part of the rebellion although you are more mild on the debate so they arent shooting themselves in the foot
Post by Fort Trenton suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
Spoiler: it did
Post by Rainbowstaria suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
theres no propaganda from me my words are clear i will make this place free
Okay, I started on page 14 like Rainbowstaria said to. It seems like both sides have a lot of things going for them in their arguments.
On one hand, Lave definitely seems shifty. They claim that they were "surprised" by their sudden election but if I understand it correctly, it was through pulling their vote from Wert at the last minute? It's pretty underhanded, and combined with the implementation of endorsement "caps", it seems kinda shifty.
On the other hand, I find the argument that the actions were "unconstitutional" very weak. While the wording of the delegate being "determined by game mechanics" might to some imply that endorsement caps were illegal, I don't see how. It's just bad writing, and should be corrected.
So, I hope I don't paint a target on my back by saying this, but I think that I'd be best trying to reform this system legally, from the inside, without freaking out and trying to get the region raided. A lot of people started telegramming me while I was reading, trying to convince me to support the side that has raiders on their side, so it doesn't seem to make sense to me to get gangpressed into their service.
I think I'll read some responses before I endorse anyone officially, though. I feel suddenly very pressured and important, is the game always like this??
Stalanup
If regional security is an admit to being cocky or inexperience or saying "wait" when neither have anything to go spread propaganda, then my posts are all propaganda as well.
A post of no contempt or propaganda spreading has no valid reason to be suppressed on site
This seems like a very reasonable response. I will say this is a particularly unusual situation, many other regions are more stable and less prone to security incidents like this.
Post by Rainbowstaria suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
well full context the delegate lets his officer overtake him then that delegate overtakes him and silences him, reates endorsement caps the thing the first swore to destroy, then he creates a complete tyranny so hes not overtaken, he also bans the founder for a bs reason
The game mechanics refer to the possibility that any citizen, by surpassing the delegate in number of endorsements, can become the new delegate, something that is directly connected and was agreed on in the discord server.
The endorsement cap is suspicious, because right after an election you make reforms to prevent other citizens from reaching the same level of endorsements as you and lose power, something that according to the constitution should be possible, because it is one of the main mechanics of the game
You have the right mind there, stick to reading and finding out what you want and endorse as such, you have your own opinion and so when you feel confident, do so
Inner Kilvaka
Post by Rainbowstaria suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
now theyve went mad banning every endorser of mine
please send the defenders
Post by Rainbowstaria suppressed by Lave Deldederady.
keep your tyranny we are leaving to free sahar see ya tyrants
Wait, so the raider Hurricane is endorsing you but you want the defenders to help too? I'm confused, aren't they supposed to be on opposite sides?
Inner Kilvaka, Lave Deldederady
Watching the activity page for invaders is a little thrilling
Inner Kilvaka
Post by Rainbowstaria suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
Move to Free Sahara away from the dictators as youve seen this guys wants you gone
Citizens of the Greater Sahara,
I am heartbroken to announce that the attacks on our democracy have not ceased. Last night, a vocal splinter faction, spearheaded by Rainbowstaria, attempted to rally support through the use of telegram campaigns, foreign endorsements, and illegal violations of endorsement caps. Luckily, their bid for the delegacy fell flat on its face - though not before some premature celebrations on behalf of the rebellion - and we were able to secure the delegacy, and with it, protect our region from a dangerous faction of traitors.
Needless to say, the fact remains that this is the second coup attempt in less than 24 hours. It is therefore evident that without swift action and increased security, our region will forever be the target of those who would wish to harm it. But rest assured, we will not give in or crumble - the needs of the region come first, and we will do what it takes to stand between them and harms way.
Inner Kilvaka
Post by Rainbowstaria suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
he banned every single endorser of mine without any reason?
he literally wants his power more than his people
Cuba 2022 Rp
Post by Cuba 2022 Rp suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
You guys are genuinely keeping the democracy charade up lmao the audacity
Note how they banned Anarkiyastan too, even though he was a member for 10 hours at that point, not a raider
Post by Coyphus Alt M suppressed by Lave Deldederady.
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I was looking at our embassy, Mitteleuropa, which was made before we have even been able to make our foreign affairs. It seems a little off to me and we have had no communication with the region. Thus, I have decided to withdraw our embassy for now. After the elections tomorrow we will hopefully be able to form a Foreign Affairs Department which can take another look at our embassies and inter-regional relationships.
Inner Kilvaka
Post by Wallowin suppressed by Lave Deldederady.
Im Anarkiyastan and I demand to know why I was banned, given I didnt break any rules.
Mekhre
Post by Rainbowstaria suppressed by Lave Deldederady.
you where and endorser of mine thats why
they did that to win the election
Post by Rainbowstaria suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
you will regret you regime
when you look like cites of the world
Post by Rainbowstaria suppressed by Lave Deldederady.
now theyre banning everyone wow what a surprise
Okay, I have decided how to spend my endorsement! I will not endorse Rainbowstaria, who I think has a heart of heart but not much else going for him, and I will also not endorse Lave...yet. I don't really trust them, they talk like a politician and not being forthcoming about their plans.
So instead, I will endorse...Inner Kilvaka! This nation has seems like a more quiet and dutiful enforcer for Lave...but what if they had as many endorsements as them? They are now 9 and 9, I wonder how that will shake up their dynamic!
Inner Kilvaka
Post by Phygos suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
I did nothing, I demand a justification
Otherwise everyone will know for real that this is a dictatorship
Mekhre
At this point it is just absurd to see the ratio of suppressed and unsuppressed posts
Rainbowstaria, Inner Kilvaka
Post by Rainbowstaria suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
Everyone depart to Free Sahara
Post by Rainbowstaria suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
im not stopping until everyone sees your true colors
Post by Rainbowstaria suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
you have banned all of my endorsers to keep in power
you are supressing every singles post
you are lying behind the scenes
Post by Rainbowstaria suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
how is this not a dictatorship?
Post by Rainbowstaria suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
dont you see the majority of people youve wrongfully banned did nothing wrong
the audacity to make your regime and kill the innocent
Do not spam the RMB - you have now made five posts in a row.
Look Rainbowstaria, you may have your valid criticisms of Lave's shifty behavior, but once you started getting raiders to help you and openly revolted against the regime, you have to stop being surprised that they're suppressing you. We can still read your messages, it seems like you're getting off easy.
Inner Kilvaka
Post by Rainbowstaria suppressed by Inner Kilvaka.
guess what i dont care im not here to listen to you
you ruined the region
and i will stop until you stop with the tyranny
Enough pls we forgot about the people if we talk to our leader instead of getting rid of him we can help him make a change in this region if you really for the region you will stop this madness and help make this region greater it have ever been before put along aside the disagreements and let's work together nobody is above the law pls let's work together until this election over until right now we are the legislative branch so get your stuff together and let's work together for the people our leader need our help let's help him instead of getting rid of him it will do nothing but make it worse FOR THE PEOPLE!!!!!!
Mekhre, Inner Kilvaka, Lave Deldederady
hello im new whats in here?
welcome
how do i endorse? everyone is doing it
Andia Xania
ph i figured it out
Well, I'm very curious to see what Lave will say about Kilvaka being over the endorsement cap even after pulling their nation's own endorsement. You should be careful in your response, because giving Kilvaka special privileges will look bad if you're trying to play the lawful angle, and coming down too strong on Kilvaka might lose you your biggest supporter. I don't know what should happen, I just like asking the hard hitting questions and stress testing these laws :)
i endrd evryon
What! You didn't endorse me :(
Actually, I just looked...ALL of the Officers have 9 endorsements!! Now that's a pickle...maybe these caps need to be more well thought out.
hello I endorse everyone who endorse me
I apologize for any confusion, the endo caps have been fixed and should last until at least noon tomorrow. Anyone who is over needs to work on fixing that by telegramming those endorsing them.
Inner Kilvaka
About 12 hours left on the election :)
I texted you on discord
Lave Deldederady
Ah okay, I see, your supporters pull endorsements from each other when they need to to stay under the cap. Very smart, you must trust the officers a lot if they could in theory combine to take you over.
Nobody is above the law, even the security officers need to make sure to keep within the cap. :)
Inner Kilvaka
I have to go to bed now, but I want to throw one last acorn into the mix before I do to stir things up (they got really quiet all of a sudden!)
From Article 1:
(2) The World Assembly Delegate may be any member of the World Assembly, provided that that member has more endorsements than the existing Delegate
This seems really badly written. So, going by the letter of the law, the legal title of "World Assembly Delegate" belongs to any member of the World Assembly that has "more endorsements than the existing Delegate"? So, by default, this definition cannot be the existing Delegate, because Lave does not have more endorsements than...well, Lave!
So, does this mean that all the Officers that are tied below the delegate are legally speaking the real leaders of the region? Or even worse, does the definition include everyone OUTSIDE Greater Sahara with more endorsements than Lave?? I don't think so, so this needs to be re-written!
First Nightmare, Inner Kilvaka
Oh my, I hadn't thought about that! Once congress convenes after the election tomorrow we should make sure we take a look at this. It may be good to amend it to cover these sorts of oversights.
Inner Kilvaka, Governed By Squirrels
Goodnight everybody good luck tmr
Inner Kilvaka, Lave Deldederady
I am striving to make sure I properly represent us in the World Assembly, if anyone has comments on how they think I should vote please let me know. At the moment I am making my decisions based on how the rest of the region votes.
Here's an idea - what if we made that an actual practice? Whenever something in the world assembly goes to vote, you could open a poll to get everyone's opinion, and cast your vote that way.
Lave Deldederady
Post self-deleted by Wert.
Post self-deleted by Wert.
Post by Wert suppressed by Lave Deldederady.
Andia Xania Poopingistan Alordostasia the person you are endorseing is a corrupt leader who just banned his political opposition
Post by Wert suppressed by Lave Deldederady.
i suggest you resign from it and stop banned people who dislike you
Proof?
Thats a serious accusation
Wert
Post by Wert suppressed by Lave Deldederady.
he banned the person who was about to become delegate
Wert is still just mad that he got banned from the discord and removed from office after breaking the law alongside the traitors. I apologize that you have to deal with it.
Welcome, by the way, to Greater Sahara. I hope you are enjoying the game so far.
Post by Wert suppressed by Lave Deldederady.
no no no, you violated our constituon and banned your opposition
I am, thank you.
Lave Deldederady
Post by Wert suppressed by Lave Deldederady.
hes also preventing people sfrom speaking there mind
Post by Wert suppressed by Lave Deldederady.
i know you have no reason to believe me Andia Xania but if you look at past RMB posts, you will see teh truth
I am not preventing people from speaking *their minds, I am suppressing traitors to the region. Those who are attempting to coup and cause chaos.
I'm glad to hear it.
Post by Wert suppressed by Lave Deldederady.
XD you banned Acornesia who wasnt a raider
https://i.imgur.com/yFAu0jC.png
you planned on banning him way before hew reentered the reigon
Post by Wert suppressed by Lave Deldederady.
tho i do have a quick question for you Lave Deldederady, when are you going back to following the constitution and allowing other people to become delegate cause you sure aren't allowing that now
Post by Wert suppressed by Lave Deldederady.
oh cmon the second post didnt even break any rules!
I said that banning Acorn may be required due to security, I was not wrong. He then attempted to invade the region. I was right, he had to be banned. Little did I know you were working with him. My fault for ever trusting you, Wert.
I have places to go in real life now, I will be back this afternoon. The other security officers should be able to help you guys out if you need anything. :)
my fault for trusting you smh
Emergency powers in a time of emergency seems perfectly fair. Thats what emergency powers are for, emergencies.
it wasnt an emergency, it was people wanting a new delegate and him preventing that in order to keep power longer
this image shows taht more people wanted a different person to lead the region
https://i.imgur.com/okL2TSn.png
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