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Region: Lands End
Aaaannnnd we're going to do this forever now!
Of course Comrade!
Unike
Under the oppressing hand of communism, the strong and capitalist at heart nation of HashBrownDown has decided to be the forerunner for all capitalist nations still within the grasps of communism and lead the loyalists back to a time of flourish no matter the distances in which war may have to spread!
Atkemri
Post by Hashbrowndown suppressed by Confederation Of Tesdai.
Hail capitalism at its greatest!
Atkemri
NO DOUBLE POST!
HashBrown, it's the real leader, you gotta help me out! The comies have control of my capital!
You want help? Join the communist regime where everyone helps for the betterment of Lands End. There's no better help than to help one's region.
Mercantana, Hydruis, Unike, Geico Gecko
The People's Intelligence Service (PIS) has informed me that [nation=short]docr_of_the_phoenix[/nation] and [nation=short]hydruis[/nation] believe we control too many puppet states! This dissent must be punished in the GULAG!
Geico Gecko, Confederation Of Tesdai
Join us! ¡Viva La Revolución!
Mercantana, Confederation Of Tesdai
They tried to murder me even when I said I would split the country up, giving them their own country.
Shall redirect the wrecko
We want all of your country. For it shall benefit the mother region.
Unike
Me and my army are prepared to take back my country! Time for a civil war!
In response to earlier messages: I liked it here and I understood everything Mercantana said, the first time, which is why I said I preferred not to "play along," simply bc I like my nation the way it is. I'm hoping you all enjoy your time in the gulag and that things return to normal soon enough. If I get bounced for this, so be it.
Confederation Of Tesdai
I give you my sincerest apology, may I stay in the glorious revolution?
Unike, Confederation Of Tesdai
There wiil be no war. You will fall too fast for it to even be remembered.
Unike
the wrecko is poised to rain down. Hail Stalin
Hail Stalin!
I have the majority of the army on my side!
Do you? I find this highly unblieveable!
Unike, Aurei Leonis
Post self-deleted by Unike.
Yeah, unless my reserves- oh, my reserves. I guess they did seem a little mad at m- we took control of the feed from the dictator!
Your armies are no match for the wrecko. And our newly developed Intercontinental ballistic gulags.
Hydruis, Unike, Geico Gecko, Confederation Of Tesdai
Also this is just an observation but you have a population of 7 million. That doesn't even compare with just my population of over 1 billion.
Confederation Of Tesdai
Because my population doesn't mate like rabbits.
the combined forces of our glorious revolution outweigh your entire population
Unike, Confederation Of Tesdai
Again, I quote.
Or maybe it's because we've played this game longer?
Geico Gecko, Isollis
Greetings. I am Aurei, glorious leader of Aurei Leonis. I greet you all and wish you well. May the Gods favor our nations
Unike, Confederation Of Tesdai
Or maybe it's because your nation has possibly only existed for 2-3 days.
Confederation Of Tesdai, Isollis
1 day 20 hours to be exact
Unike, Geico Gecko, Isollis
Would two of my friends be allowed to move their nations here? One is Ferrum Ursus, and the other is Archen Federation. Archen is massive and Ursus is kinda small, like me.
Ok, That's why. But you wouldn't really invade me, right? I mean, right?!
Post self-deleted by Confederation Of Tesdai.
Sure anyone is welcome in Lands End.
Geico Gecko
you messed with the gecko pal
Hydruis, Unike
Join the communist refime and of cousre not!
Of course!
Hydruis, Unike, Geico Gecko
Hail. Aurei told me to come here. Ferrum will also join, thanks for letting us.
Mercantana, Unike, Geico Gecko, Confederation Of Tesdai
join the communist regime
Hydruis, Unike, Confederation Of Tesdai
And now, tune in! After a very brief civil war, many states have seceded from the nation. The republic was then considered anarchy. Not that it wasn't already...
Unike, Confederation Of Tesdai
Wait there was a war and I missed it...but but....I'm top 1% for weapon manufacturing....I coulda armed you all.
Mercantana, Unike
Post self-deleted by Archen Federation.
Dangit Archen we talked about this! No Arming both sides!
Mercantana
The seceded states have reformed the nation. They are now locked in a Cold War.
What happened to spark the hostilities?
There is no cold war for we have already won the nuclear wars.=!
Unike, Geico Gecko
That got insense quickly
Confederation Of Tesdai
Hello comrades! Our new nation has been formed, through the work of the worker!
Hydruis, Unike, Confederation Of Tesdai
Congrats!
Hydruis, Unike, Confederation Of Tesdai
2 hours ago: The Democratic Republic of United Democratic Republic States departed this region for Capitalist Paradise.
43 minutes ago: The United Socialist States of Ferrum Ursus arrived from The Communist Bloc.
44 minutes ago: The United Socialist States of Archen Federation arrived from The Communist Bloc.
Did... did we manage to get some actual communists here? Fine with me. Better red than dead, and better dead than capitalist!
Hydruis, Unike, Geico Gecko, Confederation Of Tesdai, Bonnie Blue Republic, Impersia, Isollis
For all the oblivious people, the new communist country is controlled by me. If that's taboo to do that, I'll remove it.
Woah, the loyalist party still exists, anyone willing to stick out for the capitalist region we can still call home?!
Milinaria, Isollis, Republic Of Zelandea
Yes, we shall stand united to crush communist oppression!
Milinaria, Isollis
Post by Hashbrowndown suppressed by Confederation Of Tesdai.
You have the nation of HashBrownDown and all HashBrownDown I answered support
You have full support from all hashbrowndownians
Good! We may come out on on top yet. We should discuss about our plans away from the board.
Milinaria, Isollis
How quaint. The bourgeois leadership of HashbrownDown and Zelandea seem to think they can stand. I call upon the workers of those nations to rise up and overthrow their oppressors, seizing a peaceful, productive future for all of Land's End. Ask and you shall receive, provided that it if for the liberation of the proletariat. You will be freed from the oppressive yoke of the bourgeois yet!
Unike, Geico Gecko, Confederation Of Tesdai
If you see a productive future through statism you are delusional. You greedy communist pigs will perish soon enough. Capitalists unite in the battle against the communist/socialist oppression! We shall take back this region in the name of a truly productive future and liberty!
"Greedy communist pigs"
From a member of the bourgeoisie. I rest my case.
Unike, Confederation Of Tesdai
Been there done that.
This is on battle that loyalists will not lose for it is not the government but the people of HashBrownDownian cities nationwide that stand for capitalist against the oppressing grip of communist hatred.
Milinaria
What case is there? I seek to make quality items or services for my fellow man... I fail to see how this can possibly be perceived as greedy...
You are, of course, not seeking to make a profit from the sale of these goods or services?
Confederation Of Tesdai
I am, however this doesn't exactly need to make me a bourgeois, or greedy at that. It will aid me in telling me whether or not people will buy my said products or services, if they are good enough, and if they need improvement. What IS greedy is the collectivism driven by the state, and the banning of all private property.
Nonetheless, I stand in opposition to the new Communist control, regardless of the consequences.
Welcome to the club.
Milinaria
Post self-deleted by Bonnie Blue Republic.
Post self-deleted by Bonnie Blue Republic.
But would not all benefit from a situation where the state distributes both food and labor? There would be no pointless labor, all would eat, and all would contribute to the best of their ability. Unemployment does not exist in a communist state. In any case, how can one be greedy in a state without personal property?
*reposted to correct a typo. Twice. I suck a typing.
Geico Gecko, Confederation Of Tesdai
So people don't have to earn what you get? Sounds pretty greedy to me.
Quite the contrary. Should someone refuse to work and help the people as a whole, then the people have no obligation to them. Ergo, they get nothing. Those who work receive the same thing as all of the others who work.
We aren't socialists. We're Communists. Learn the difference.
Unike, Geico Gecko, Confederation Of Tesdai
Sounds greedy to me when a child can't get the new cool product due to the fact that their government not see if fit to be in their economy, in the capitalist states that still lay loyal to the main cause of the region in such they lay in the borders of the people can but any product from any nation driving efficiency to its most and capitalistic competition to its best! Long live the capitalist region of Lands End!
Republic Of Zelandea
The very fact that the child wants this "cool new product" in the first place is greed!
At any rate, why should government be separate from the people? Is not the first premise of a democracy, or a republic, that all people deserve some form of representation in the government?
Why do you automatically assume that any communist nation is along the old Soviet system? The USSR was not communist. They were Stalinist. The difference? Who the power lies with. Communism is based entirely on empowering the working class. What's to say a communist government can't be democratic?
Atkemri
The working class does, that's who. If the government is democratic then it will undou tingly fall back into capitalism due to the known fact that people want freedom and that includes freedom to consume whatever they want. The working class of all the classes would choose a lifestyle of capitalism just because if their name, "working" they don't want to work for the weak and foolish to feed off of them, they want to work for their own might and freedom to purchase. And if the working class became communistic it would become the lazy class due to the known fact people are less invested and/or efficient when they are not benefiting from their work and the people who are lazier, are.
Milinaria
Then we berid of the useless and the strong and willing survive. Maximum effeciency. If you don't work, you don't live. Simple as that.
Bonnie Blue Republic
So now your selecting who lives?! I give your citizens days before they start flooding into my nation for sanction from your oppression and hatred!
Milinaria
They won't escape the border alive. There is no leaving!
Communist lands only seek to decorate the land with the color of their ideology: Rec.
That is why the United loyalists will disrupt your borders with pure strength for our people will step up in time of war and efficiency will be at its greatest with the strongest receiving all and natural selection will put us on top! It's time for the loyalists to take this war from our doorsteps to your borders!
Republic Of Zelandea
For the old lands edge!
Your armies have nothing on mine and my allies. I will call upon them for help to whipe your nation off the map for good.
Unike
readying the wrecko, cause they done messed with the gecko
Mercantana, Unike, Confederation Of Tesdai
When was there a Lands Edge?
Confederation Of Tesdai, Capitalist Piggys
That won't be necessary. I am supportive of hash brown, I refuse to directly involve myself in a direct conflict in this region.
Confederation Of Tesdai
Post by Republic Of Zelandea suppressed by Confederation Of Tesdai.
Sorry, I once had an Idea for a nation called lands edge. So that came to mind. I look like an idiot.
New Slovakastan, Atkemri
Please so not double post.
So essentially what I'm hearing from the "liberators of the working class" is:
1. Every person earns the same amount of money regardless of how many more hours, or less hours, they work.
(This is unfair and unrealistic because everybody, regardless of moral convictions, wants--needs to be paid accordingly for the work they produce. In a communist "utopia" where shown in number 1 everybody gets the same pay regardless of hours worked, there is no incentive to work hard and actually encourages laziness, because if I can make the same amount of money as everyone else regardless of hours worked, I can work less than everyone else.)
2."The very fact that the child wants this "cool new product" in the first place is greed!"
- Bonnie Blue Republic
(This is as simple as you wanting a communist government, this makes you greedy. Its unfair to label someone as greedy merely because they want something. Lets say for instance, I want success, does me striving for the betterment and well being of myself, and possibly my own family, make me greedy? Is me wanting a better job, or boss, in fact greedy? I would certainly hope not. Not to mention that capitalism is the polar opposite of greed. Greed is defined as an excessive need for something, capitalism follows the satisfaction of customers through goods like food, clothing, electronics, and services like banking, private contracting, and other entrepreneurial strives. In other words, capitalism gives, it doesn't take or enslave.)
3. "The USSR wasn't communist, they were Stalinist."
- Bonnie Blue Republic
(Nope, they were definitely Communists. Just like Socialism is Communism, it just masquerades behind a different name. "The goal of socialism is Communism." - Vladimir Lenin
The only thing that makes Stalinist Communism different from the regular Communism is the deliverance. Before the overthrow of the Czar and the Monarchy, Bolsheviks and Mensheviks were one single party with the same goal, the establishment of a socialist state. Actually some people wanted to keep the Czar, but wanted governmental reforms. However, the turning point that split the single party into the Bolsheviks and Mensheviks was the deliverance of the socialist state. One through democratic election, and the other through societal uprising, or revolution. Some members of both wanted revolution too however.)
4. "Then we berid of the useless and the strong and willing survive. Maximum effeciency. If you don't work, you don't live. Simple as that."
- Confederation of TESDAI
(I disagree that it is as simple as that. Social Darwinism should ONLY exist in free market economies and competitive working fields, and shouldn't be stretched out like that, its inhumane that you just say that "we berid the 'useless'", are you suggesting we round up all the legitimately impoverished and execute them?)
5. What's to say that a communist government can't be democratic?
(Actually every intellectual should begin by telling you that communism and democracy are codependent. This is why I hate democracy, and it has a long history of tyranny as well. The Roman Republic destroyed itself, after living prosperously for over 100 years, by forgetting what its republic meant, and switching to a democracy, where the Caesars would cruelly rule its people.
"Deocracy is indispensable to socialism" - Vladimir Lenin
Really gotta love that guy, huh?)
Confederation Of Tesdai, Bonnie Blue Republic, Atkemri
CAPITALISM YOU SHALL NEVER CRUSH ATKEMRI COMMIE SCUMBAG
Post self-deleted by Atkemri.
Anyone who doubles post again intentionally (meaning you've been warned multiple times) will face a much more severe punishment. I know it's a joke, but right now the RMB is literally just spam. I don't want to see it again. This is starting to get ridiculous.
Unike, Confederation Of Tesdai, New Slovakastan
Thank you, sir, for making a coherent argument. And in fact, I cede victory to you you. While I believe that a communist society could exist successfully, it cannot do so over a large scale. The small commune is the only way communism could even theoretically exist over the long term. Capitalism, as a system, does not permit long-term leeching. Communism does. And that is the problem. In a society where all we're willing to work for the good of the whole, communism could succeed. But it's a sad fact of humanity that good intentions will always be corrupted by someone seeking personal power or gain.
Good day.
Confederation Of Tesdai
Lol I'm gonna have to state that anyone who started the communist trend must have no background proof due to the idea that they stopped posting lol
I mean, I'll respectfully bow out in the face of superior reasoning. There's no shame in that.
That would be August. Have fun with that.
Mercantana, Bonnie Blue Republic, Capitalist Piggys
Could someone tell what happened? Is it some kind of trolling or is Lands End actually no longer a pro capitalist and pro liberty region?
In short: there was a WA vote to condemn the Grey Wardens, who are a "communist" region and our ally. Most of Land's End voted against the resolution, but a few made a big deal out of the fact that they were "commies" and refused to do so. So we made the region communist.
Mercantana
And they weren't actually communist. They just made their main nation types pro-communism as a troll to the people who were condemning them.
Mercantana
lol we arnt pro communist, we decided to spark some conversation through some fun role play
Confederation Of Tesdai
I'm back! And sorry for double posting.
Confederation Of Tesdai
That's reassuring. Came back this morning to a whole lot of notifications and some really strange behaviour.
Confederation Of Tesdai
...ahem.
I mean, what are you all talking about? When did we hire a bunch of children? Get back to your workstations!
Milinaria, Unike, Geico Gecko, Confederation Of Tesdai, Capitalist Piggys
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