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Region: Lands End
Alright our COO is Grater Tovakia, for future reference region authorities can be seen at the top of the region page. Now the shareholder application is below and to send this to our COO send him a telegram which is how you message other nations through the game.
[spoiler=Click to show shareholder application...]Nation Name:
Founding Date*:
WA Status (Y / N):[/spoiler]
Now here is a guide for new players Guide Link Now this guide is pretty extensive and you don't have to read all of it but it'll probably be worth it in the long run and also if you want to know more about the privileges that shareholders get I'll just refer you back to the Government page that I linked in my last RMB post.
I appreciate this sentiment but please, no double posts. Just use the edit feature to add to your original post.
Unike
Greetings, newcomers!
I would just like to make sure you're aware:
Knowing what you're doing is in no way shape or form a requirement.
I don't really know what I'm doing... and I'm the CEO of the company!
Buryasia, The Cincinnatus Republic, Legoa, Tri-Galleon Yudobya, Peacockastan
Aint that the truth
Bonnie Blue Republic, Buryasia, Legoa, Peacockastan
Yeah
Howdy! Please consider taking this NS-wide poll and passing it on to others!
https://goo.gl/forms/T6hiNBwSwVCjmcz33
Bonnie Blue Republic, Peacockastan
Dirito-Opolis
You should post the results.
Dirito-Opolis
They'll be posted at the end of the month in the Augustin Alliance Forum Embassy.
Also welcome, Mayrhofen-Eu!
Dirito-Opolis, Buryasia, The Cincinnatus Republic
Post self-deleted by Peacockastan.
I would like to ask how many people here are familiar with the show known as the Powerpuff Girls. I am asking because I remembered an episode from the original series that put a thought in my head.
Tri-Galleon Yudobya
Welcome Mcdonalds Megacorp, Siffvania, The United Mediterranean Sovereigntys, Northern Republic Of Greece, and Scandia Arctica that's a lot of people, If any of you have questions then don't be afraid to ask.
Buryasia, Bluximburg, The Cincinnatus Republic
To all our new people, if you are interested in becoming a shareholder telegram me the application. Becoming a Shareholder grants you the right to vote, a place on our map, and allows you to run for office!
Here is the application: [spoiler]Nation Name:
Founding Date*:
WA Status (Y / N):[/spoiler]
Oh heck yeah. I vaguely can recall a few episodes
The Democracy Of Red Star
Welcome Lysandor
Buryasia, The Democracy Of Red Star, Bluximburg, South-Central Rhodesia, Lysandor
Who else got a telegram about Satan?
The Democracy Of Red Star
what? I'm now interested in what that telegram says, so I kindly ask you to share this with us.
The Democracy Of Red Star
I think I did
The Democracy Of Red Star
Here's the tele.
"*facedesk*
GUYS
we're commending a person named Satan! not the actual Satan! Unfortunately, poor Satan can't change his nation name, so he's stuck with his un-aptly chosen name. He can't help himself! ><
If you voted against because you thought you were commending Satan, that is NOT true. Please switch your vote to "FOR."
(Go here, vote FOR)
page=sc
I respect everyone's religious preferences, but you can't throw a innocent guy to the volcano just because his parents named his Satan.
Thank you Rumantium"
Buryasia, The Democracy Of Red Star
ATTENTION ALL NATIONS, PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING ANOUNCMENT!!!
Due to this announcement, the Joint Task Force is now recruiting.
if you wish to join, the JTF you can enlist here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=967591
The Democracy Of Red Star
How did I miss Satan being commended, of all things? that just doesn't sound like something that would slip by unnoticed.
Lol at one point it had a perfect 6,666 vote FOR haha.
Buryasia, South-Central Rhodesia
It has come to my attention that the link I previously posted does not work. Here it is in text format:
It has come to the attention of the Central Strategic Committee that the Pacific has committed heinous acts of subversion and espionage over the course of several years, causing significant damage and turmoil in numerous game-created regions. Additionally, these acts were carried out with the full knowledge and participation of its government, the New Pacific Order, which has shown no remorse whatsoever and has, in fact, responded with threats and denial.
After much deliberation and investigation, the Joint Task Force commanders, the Defense Officer, the Media Officer, and the Founder have decided to enact sanctions i, iv and v, in accordance with our External Sanction* policies, upon The Pacific:
i. Cross-membership ban. No resident may hold citizenship or other membership in the sanctioned region.
iv. Offensive military action against the sanctioned region, its allies, and protectorates, and its own military operations.
v. Recruitment targeted at the sanctioned region.
*The Alliance has no means for declaring war. Sanctions are our rough equivalent.
We will not sit idly by simply because we are smaller in number. We are not intimidated by you or your imperialist dogma. You will soon be added to our collection, just as others have that dared to antagonize us.
As members of the Augustin Alliance, we do not make threats, we make promises. You will be shown no quarter and when push comes to shove we will stand right by our allies through thick and thin.
Bullies are not welcome. Liars are not welcome. Deceivers are not welcome. You are not welcome.
Furthermore, we consider that the New Pacific Order must be destroyed.
Signed,
Lt Director, JTF Diplomatic Division
Reserve Squadron Commander, JTF Active Division
Media Officer, Central Strategic Committee
Defense Officer and Administrator, Central Strategic Committee
Founder, Augustin Alliance
Tulov, Bonnie Blue Republic, The Cincinnatus Republic, Legoa, Peacockastan
Theodore Roosevelt:"At this point I don't even care they're not a trust, I'm gonna bust this thing open like a piggy bank. *grabs big stick*
The Democracy Of Red Star, Legoa
He once said, speak softly and carry a big stick. I say, speak softly and drive a big tank
Saint Gloria, Tradetown
or don't speak at all and just nuke them
Legoa
Seeing as we have some intrest, please enlist soon as training exercises are set to begin shortly.
Peacockastan, South-Central Rhodesia
Yes Sir!
The second edition of The Shareholder's Herald is now up!!!
Check it out here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1131086
Please upvote the dispatch!
The Cincinnatus Republic
Can I have the share holders application please? I think I am going to jump the gun.
Application
Nation Name:
Founding Date*:
WA Status (Y / N):
*To view one's founding date, visit this page.
When it comes to economy, is "thriving" or "very strong" better?
Thriving is better
Just making sure, because mine went from very strong to thriving. What's the best then?
I think it is frightening
That's interesting
South-Central Rhodesia
Frightening is the best.
Which is kinda counter-intuitive.
I'm pretty sure I've lost a few API recruits because they thought I was faking being so pro-business and then had a terribly economy.
Anyone want to repeal dont kill the poor act?
Bluximburg, South-Central Rhodesia
I'd support that. Have you seen my nation?
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What do you guys think?:
Noting that General Assembly Resolution 2, Article 2 allows the nation to have jurisdiction over its own nation.
Recongzing That Article 4 of the Dont Kill the Poor act requires Member states to aid persons escaping and consider them refugees.
Beliving that means The nation is required to accept refugees from this kind of situation
Knowing It will be a Financial struggle for some nations with large populations or lack of income
The World Assembly herby repeals Dont Kill The Poor Act.
South-Central Rhodesia
Ok a few things,
1. Please no double, triple, or quadruple posting... there is an edit button for a reason.
2. To make proper BBcode you need to put a slash on the last BBcode. For examlple [Grater Tovakia][/Grater Tovakia] (not a real code)
Good points, GT.
Spokane, are you getting this?
Yeah I've been noticing an unusually frequent amount of double posting recently, everyone needs to remember that double posting is not allowed and that if you want to say something after you have already posted just use the edit button or wait until someone else posts, but don't double post because it will just be taken down. Please everyone make a mental note.
Yes I just need feedback on my repeal before I submit (Someone plz give meh feedback)
South-Central Rhodesia
Great repeal Spokane! Well written & to the point. :)
Buryasia
Thank you! Any chance of it making it to the W.A.? Im going to submit it. Will Lands End vote for me?
Buryasia, South-Central Rhodesia
Category: Repeal | Resolution: GAR #450
General Assembly Resolution #450 Dont Kill The Poor Act (Category: Social Justice; Strength: Strong) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.
Noting that General Assembly Resolution 2, Article 2 allows the nation to have jurisdiction over its own nation;
Recongzing That Article 4 of the Dont Kill the Poor act requires Member states to aid persons escaping and consider them refugees;
Beliving that means The nation is required to accept refugees from this kind of situation;
Knowing It will be a Financial struggle for some nations with large populations or lack of income;
HEREBY repeals the Dont Kill The Poor Act
I WILL MAKE SOME EDITS LATER, DO NOT SUBMIT AS EITHER A PROPOSAL OR A DRAFT ON THE FORUMS YET.
Bluximburg, Tri-Galleon Yudobya, South-Central Rhodesia
Shoot, I didnt see your message.
[Edit: I managed to delete it and have a another proposal written up]
Buryasia, Bluximburg, South-Central Rhodesia
I'd vote for it, under its current or similar wording
Buryasia, Bluximburg
It has my vote too.
Buryasia, Bluximburg
I have added another clause to increase its chances. So here we go!
Category: Repeal | Resolution: GAR #450
General Assembly Resolution #450 Dont Kill The Poor Act (Category: Social Justice; Strength: Strong) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.
Noting that General Assembly Resolution 2, Article 2 allows the nation to have jurisdiction over its own nation;
Recognizing That Article 4 of the Dont Kill the Poor act requires Member states to aid persons escaping and consider them refugees;
Believing that means The Nation is required to accept refugees from this kind of situation;
Knowing It will be a Financial struggle for some nations with large populations or lack of income;
Argues That it is a attack on national sovereignty by dictating that nations must accept refugees as their own citizens and render aid
HEREBY repeals the Dont Kill The Poor Act.
Coauthored by: Grater Tovakia
Category: Repeal | Resolution: GAR #450
General Assembly Resolution #450 Don't Kill The Poor Act (Category: Social Justice; Strength: Strong) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.
Recognizing that killing the poor is a terrible thing to do;
Noting that General Assembly Resolution 2, Article 2 allows every nation to have jurisdiction over themselves and therefore make decisions for themselves;
Having considered that the fourth operative clause of the Don't Kill the Poor act requires member nations to aid persons being forcefully relocated and consider them refugees, which is a direct violation of the sovereignty of every member nation;
Knowing that an increase in the number of refugees being brought into a nation and an increase in the number of refugees being provided aid by a nation will put extreme strain on a nations economy;
Convinced that the Don't Kill The Poor Act is an attack on national sovereignty by dictating that nations must accept refugees and render aid;
Deeply concerned that under the Don't Kill The Poor Act, simply relocating a group because of their economic status is considered to be an act of genocide;
Keeping in mind that genocide is an act of great terror which should not be thrown around lightly;
HEREBY repeals GA 450.
It most definitely still needs a lot more work before being submitted to the WA, but it's a step in the right direction
Buryasia
Are you both fine if I mention you both as coauthors? Edit: I guess this is a Lands end project. If this gets passed, you all deserve a pat on the back
I would be fine with it, however this is still a ways away from being completed. First I would like to see what GT comes up with and what he has to say and then I would like to have this posted in the forums so that other people can have their two cents about it, and then I think it would be a good idea to show some other people from the AA, and then we could probably submit it to the WA.
Buryasia
K
Also, I am now backing the repeal. I'll do what I can to help edit and get other delegates on board.
Buryasia, Tri-Galleon Yudobya
With the support of the AA delegates and other delegates that you can muster up, after some editing, this has a fair chance of passing.
The Federation Of Spokane
I just re-read this and noticed that there is no argument other than NATSOV (national sovereignty) you need an extra argument, such as loopholes or a way one can abuse the proposal. Otherwise, this is illegal.
Buryasia
Right, I knew that, and as I said before this still needs tons of work before we submit it. That one that I wrote out just now was just something I came up with on the spot.
The genocide addition here is key. To me, that's the most outrageous part of the resolution.
We can start by saying this bill effectively redefines the word genocide to be overly broad, and can be used by actors who commit actual acts of genocide to shift the blame to any country that move a group of people from any "designated area", as well as to flood international courts with trivial claims of genocide that distract from real issues. Another argument that not NATSOV-based could be on the provision 4. "Render aid" is far too vague a phrase. An ill-intentioned government could consider "aid" for refugees as holding them in camp cities indefinitely, providing minimal amounts of food and water. "Aid" could be separating children from parents indefinitely to protect from human trafficking. "Aid" could be invading and/or bombing the country the refugees come from under the guise of "promoting regional stability". It's again another aspect of the resolution that can be easily abused
Buryasia, Grater Tovakia, Peacockastan
This is really a great idea, really great job and I agree that the genocide thing is way too over broad and that countries that are not well meaning could consider aid to be literally anything from giving them candy to shooting them in the head to put them out of their misery. I swear this thing is looking more and more promising.
Buryasia, Grater Tovakia
Yeah
Post the amended draft with the included changes I proposed.
Grater Tovakia
Will do, I have a few changes to make.
Bluximburg
Captain Obvious:Looks like the navy isn't getting much love on the regional poll.
Technically, the marines is part of the navy.
Category: Repeal | Resolution: GAR #450
General Assembly Resolution #450 Don't Kill The Poor Act (Category: Social Justice; Strength: Strong) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.
Recognizing that killing the poor is a terrible thing to do;
Noting that General Assembly Resolution 2 allows every nation to have jurisdiction over themselves and therefore make decisions for themselves;
Having considered that the fourth operative clause of the Don't Kill the Poor act requires member nations to aid persons being forcefully relocated and consider them refugees, which is a direct violation of the sovereignty of every member nation;
Knowing that an increase in the number of refugees being brought into a nation and an increase in the number of refugees being provided aid by a nation will put extreme strain on a nations economy;
Convinced that the Don't Kill The Poor Act is an attack on national sovereignty by dictating that nations must accept refugees and render aid;
Deeply concerned that under the Don't Kill The Poor Act, simply relocating a group because of their economic status is considered to be an act of genocide;
Keeping in mind that genocide is an act of great terror which should not be thrown around lightly;
Deeply convinced that the Don't Kill The Poor Act redefines the word, genocide, to be overly broad allowing for those who actually commit a mass heinous murder cast the blame elsewhere on a nation that simply moved a group of people from a designated area,
Confident that this redefinition of the word, genocide, will flood the international courts with trivial claims of genocide that distract from real issues,
Deeply disturbed that "Render aid" is far too vague a phrase as used in the Don't kill the poor act and an ill-intentioned government could consider "aid" for refugees as holding them in camp cities indefinitely, providing minimal amounts of food and water, separating children from parents indefinitely to protect from human trafficking, or even invading and/or bombing the country the refugees come from under the guise of "promoting regional stability,"
HEREBY repeals GA 450.
Alright Now we're getting somewhere.
Ill define genocide
Also, when we are ready to submit it we will need to link all of the mentioned resolutions whenever we reference them, so we will need to link GA #2 and GA #450 every time we mention them. It is important that we do not forget that.
Not sure how to link
I'll do it later, don't worry about it.
I'm not an expert on the WA but I suspect moving this part up (before the NATSOV arguments) would be more appealing to more heavy-hitters such as delegates who have a lot of influence.
I'm not sure I would include the NATSOV parts at all; for those of us who believe in NATSOV it will be obvious that a repeal benefits our sovereignty; the majority seems to need the other arguments to persuade them.
I will be FOR the repeal any way it is written; am simply trying to help increase its chances of passing the August Absurd body known as the WA.
Peacockastan
[pre][/pre]
Buryasia
[pre]Category: Repeal | Resolution: [resolution=ga#450]GAR #450[/resolution]
[resolution=ga#450]General Assembly Resolution #450 Don't Kill The Poor Act[/resolution] (Category: Social Justice; Strength: Strong) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.
Recognizing that killing the poor is a terrible thing to do;
Noting that [resolution=ga#2]General Assembly Resolution 2[/resolution] allows every nation to have jurisdiction over themselves and therefore make decisions for themselves;
Having considered that the fourth operative phrase of the [resolution=ga#450]Don't Kill The Poor Act[/resolution] requires member nations to aid persons being forcefully relocated and consider them refugees, which is a direct violation of the sovereignty of every member nation;
Knowing that an increase in the number of refugees being brought into a nation and an increase in the number of refugees being provided aid by a nation will put extreme strain on a nations economy;
Convinced that the [resolution=ga#450]Don't Kill The Poor Act[/resolution] is an attack on national sovereignty by dictating that nations must accept refugees and render aid;
Deeply concerned that under the [resolution=ga#450]Don't Kill The Poor Act[/resolution], simply relocating a group because of their economic status is considered to be an act of genocide;
Keeping in mind that genocide is an act of great terror which should not be thrown around lightly;
Deeply convinced that the [resolution=ga#450]Don't Kill The Poor Act[/resolution] redefines the word, genocide, to be overly broad allowing for those who actually commit a mass heinous murder cast the blame elsewhere on a nation that simply moved a group of people from a designated area,
Confident that this redefinition of the word, genocide, will flood the international courts with trivial claims of genocide that distract from real issues,
Deeply disturbed that "Render aid" is far too vague a phrase as used in the Don't kill the poor act and an ill-intentioned government could consider "aid" for refugees as holding them in camp cities indefinitely, providing minimal amounts of food and water, separating children from parents indefinitely to protect from human trafficking, or even invading and/or bombing the country the refugees come from under the guise of "promoting regional stability,"
HEREBY repeals GA 450.[/pre]
This can be used to copy and past and make edits without having to redo all of the BBCode.
Bluximburg
Alright
I did it by the way, just copy paste what I had below into either a dispatch or the rmb and press "preview" and you will see that the resolutions are linked.
Nice work you guys on that repeal!
Buryasia, Bluximburg, Legoa, South-Central Rhodesia
K and thank you.
Edit: You guys, I am about to submit it. Any objections before I submit?
Submit
Okay You guys, Its submitted!
Unsubmit, it's illegal, also once I remove the illegal portion, I'll post it to the forums.
K
Rip my lawn.....
Alright I posted it to the forum, it's called [DRAFT] Repeal "Don't Kill The Poor Act"
What?
K. May I post the actual one to the world Assembly?
Edit: Wallenburg is salty that we are trying to repeal his resolution
Okay so if you look in the forums at the draft.... It got absolutely destroyed and torn apart by the writer of the Don't Kill The Poor Act and he's right about most of the stuff he said so I'm probably done writing this thing, I give up. If someone else wants to take over writing this thing, be my guest but there is absolutely no way that I'm gonna be able to rewrite this whole thing in order to make it legal. Also no you may not post the actual one to the world assembly because it will just be deemed as illegal again so let someone else make edits to it first and then post it to the forums and once we get feedback on it, then we will decide if we want to post it, there's no point in resubmitting at this point until it is edited majorly.
True. Maybe we should move on. I mean he completely destroyed it. I might resign. If anybody wants to have a go at it, TG me. It was my idea and it was pretty stupid in the first place.
I disagree and I've changed my mind, there is still a chance of salvaging it and I will still be working on it. Also don't resign that won't solve anything. It wasn't a stupid idea at all, you weren't the only one to think about repealing this resolution however you were the only one to actually write a draft for your repeal so good on you.
Buryasia
Post self-deleted by The Federation Of Spokane.
What do you think? : Observing that certain nations require their citizens to pay for education;
Acknowledging it will be a financial struggle for poorer families in the nations;
Recognizing that bright minds can be found through the schooling system;
Admonishing the fact the children from certain nations can have their minds wasted from lack of good schooling tailored to fit their needs;
Worried about the disregard for brilliant children and special needs children if they are poor and cant pay;
Wanting to make sure every child in the NS world gets the education they need;
The World Assembly hereby:
1. Requests reduced rates of education for poorer citizens.
2. Asks that schools have accommodations for those who need it.
3. Requires a testing committee to be formed to identify brilliant children and get proper accommodations for them to learn at their pace.
4. Requires that schools
(A)Expand schools and hire more teachers when needed.
(B) Induce more subjects to increase interest in education when needed.
I am calling this the free Education Act.
Also I will still work on the repeal.
Well, first of all you can't refer to the game as a game so remove NS and just keep world, second of all I don't agree with free education.
Alright
I will not agree with this. We are a anti-WA region. Meaning we do not like WA bills that constrict individual nation-states to a certain standard. Each nation has its own sovereignty and independence. If you want to write bills, work on repealing bills. Your proposal is an example of overreach, I dislike overreach. If you want free education, then implement it in your own nation. Do not tell us how to run our education systems.
p.s.: I do however commend your enthusiasm and willingness to put in effort.
Peacockastan, Free Southern Republics, Tradetown
True: It was just a effort to practice.
Buryasia, Bluximburg
If you want to practice writing resolutions then I would suggest looking at Model United Nations websites and stuff like that for guides on writing an effective resolution and then you can also look at previously passed resolutions and see how they wrote their resolutions and go off from that. Also make sure you take a good look at the rules so that you don't write any illegal resolutions.
Alright
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Written by Refuge Isle.