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Capitalist Slime wrote:I support Liberate Westphalia, however, it's kinda pointless. Unless the WA guides them with a firm hand, they're just gonna do it again. And again. And keep doing it until they control a lot of regional power. Can you imagine a region with its founding fathers having so much power, they literally can do whatever they want in the WA? Having power means control. If you have 5 regions with WA Delegates, you have some power. If the raiders take over a new region, they force that region to give them power or they leave, prompting the Raiders to ban those in power. The WA can't do anything because the WA like it's Delegates, no matter who sits on the throne. It's really kinda sad and pointless in the end. But, nonetheless, I give my support to Liberate Westphalia, and I think we should too.

First of all, don't double post. This sort of counts as double posting 3 times because you deleted your first 2 double-posts, but I'll count it as one. Use the edit feature instead.

I personally, am voting against the resolution. I don't think the WA should interfere with the R/D community. And, I have heard claims that Westphalia used to raid too, before they themselves were invaded. I have heard several other accusations. I don't know whether they are true or not, but until I know they are wrong, I am voting against.

The United Banking Associaton

I agree with Torranta, we should all vote against it.As ambassador, I've interacted with some of the members of Westphalia, and they have indeed raided before. It's all about an eye for an eye in the raiding business.

If this stupid resolution to liberate the Westphalia comes up again i stg I will leave the WA.

Archen Federation stands by this code: If you are strong enough to take it, it is yours, if you are weak, you deserve to be conquered.

Westphalia needs to quit their complaining and move on. Theres this lovely little button called "Found new region". MAKE A NEW ONE AND BUILD A WALL.

As High Marshal, I will not lend my support to this resolution.

That's fair. And the problem is, everyone has a past. Whether good or bad, Westphalia still is just one loop in an endless cycle. So, yeah, I mean, the WA shouldn't interfere, but isn't that what the Security Council was established for? I mean, I don't like moderators coming down from their high horse and bossing us around, but it's still apart of the cycle. The SC(I'm just gonna use its initials from now on) is by no means perfect, however, it still serves a purpose.

Torranta wrote:First of all, don't double post. This sort of counts as double posting 3 times because you deleted your first 2 double-posts, but I'll count it as one. Use the edit feature instead.

I personally, am voting against the resolution. I don't think the WA should interfere with the R/D community. And, I have heard claims that Westphalia used to raid too, before they themselves were invaded. I have heard several other accusations. I don't know whether they are true or not, but until I know they are wrong, I am voting against.

Capitalist Slime wrote:That's fair. And the problem is, everyone has a past. Whether good or bad, Westphalia still is just one loop in an endless cycle. So, yeah, I mean, the WA shouldn't interfere, but isn't that what the Security Council was established for? I mean, I don't like moderators coming down from their high horse and bossing us around, but it's still apart of the cycle. The SC(I'm just gonna use its initials from now on) is by no means perfect, however, it still serves a purpose.

Westphalia just needs to stop begging for help. It's beyond pathetic and has been voted down 3 or 4 times now.

If LE is ever conquered, I will simply move on, not beg repeatedly for "intervention"

The United Banking Associaton, Butcherhooks, Okla-Texas

I thought I read somewhere that a region's founder can overpower the delegate any time they want. is that true, and if so, couldn't Westphilia just liberate itself as soon as the founder felt like it? I feel like I'm missing something here

Archen Federation, The United Banking Associaton

Mythel wrote:I thought I read somewhere that a region's founder can overpower the delegate any time they want. is that true, and if so, couldn't Westphilia just liberate itself as soon as the founder felt like it? I feel like I'm missing something here

Not every region has an active founder still. We're lucky that we do.

Bonnie Blue Republic wrote:Not every region has an active founder still. We're lucky that we do.

Mythel wrote:I thought I read somewhere that a region's founder can overpower the delegate any time they want. is that true, and if so, couldn't Westphilia just liberate itself as soon as the founder felt like it? I feel like I'm missing something here

Archen Federation wrote:Westphalia just needs to stop begging for help. It's beyond pathetic and has been voted down 3 or 4 times now.

If LE is ever conquered, I will simply move on, not beg repeatedly for "intervention"

I agree with all three of these. If Westphalia deserves this, it deserves this. Besides, if it's founder is corrupt, then the WA should divert more resources to regions that need it. And Bonnie's right, I'm glad I joined a group who has an active community. It's good we have these things, so don't take them for granted.

He was just a rookie trooper and he surely shook with fright.

He checked off his equipment and made sure his pack was tight.

He had to sit and listen to those awful engines roar.

You ain't gonna jump no more.

Chorus:

Gory, gory, what a hell of way to die.

Gory, gory, what a hell of way to die.

Gory, gory, what a hell of way to die.

He ain't gonna jump no more.

"Is everybody happy?" cried the sergeant looking up.

Our hero feebly answered, "Yes", and then they stood him up.

He jumped into the icy blast, his static line unhooked.

And he ain't gonna jump no more.

He counted long, he counted loud, he waited for the shock.

He felt the wind, he felt the cold, he felt the awful drop.

The silk from his reserve spilled out and wrapped around his legs.

And he ain't gonna jump no more.

The risers swung around his neck, connectors cracked his dome.

Suspension lines were tied in knots around his skinny bones.

The canopy became his shroud, he hurtled to the ground.

And he ain't gonna jump no more.

The days he lived and loved and laughed kept running through his mind.

He thought about the girl back home, the one he left behind.

He thought about the medicos and wondered what they'd find.

And he ain't gonna jump no more.

The ambulance was on the spot, the jeeps were running wild.

The medics jumped and screamed with glee, rolled up their sleeves and smiled.

For it had been a week or more since last a 'chute had failed.

And he ain't gonna jump no more.

He hit the ground, the sound was "Splat," his blood went spurting high.

His comrades they were heard to say, "A helluva way to die."

He lay there rolling 'round in the welter of his gore.

And he ain't gonna jump no more.

There was blood upon the risers, there were brains upon the 'chute.

Intestines were a-dangling from his paratrooper suit.

He was a mess, they picked him up and poured him from his boots.

And he ain't gonna jump no more.

Sorry got bored

Clarkentrent

Butcherhooks wrote:He was just a rookie trooper and he surely shook with fright.

He checked off his equipment and made sure his pack was tight.

He had to sit and listen to those awful engines roar.

You ain't gonna jump no more.

Chorus:

Gory, gory, what a hell of way to die.

Gory, gory, what a hell of way to die.

Gory, gory, what a hell of way to die.

He ain't gonna jump no more.

"Is everybody happy?" cried the sergeant looking up.

Our hero feebly answered, "Yes", and then they stood him up.

He jumped into the icy blast, his static line unhooked.

And he ain't gonna jump no more.

He counted long, he counted loud, he waited for the shock.

He felt the wind, he felt the cold, he felt the awful drop.

The silk from his reserve spilled out and wrapped around his legs.

And he ain't gonna jump no more.

The risers swung around his neck, connectors cracked his dome.

Suspension lines were tied in knots around his skinny bones.

The canopy became his shroud, he hurtled to the ground.

And he ain't gonna jump no more.

The days he lived and loved and laughed kept running through his mind.

He thought about the girl back home, the one he left behind.

He thought about the medicos and wondered what they'd find.

And he ain't gonna jump no more.

The ambulance was on the spot, the jeeps were running wild.

The medics jumped and screamed with glee, rolled up their sleeves and smiled.

For it had been a week or more since last a 'chute had failed.

And he ain't gonna jump no more.

He hit the ground, the sound was "Splat," his blood went spurting high.

His comrades they were heard to say, "A helluva way to die."

He lay there rolling 'round in the welter of his gore.

And he ain't gonna jump no more.

There was blood upon the risers, there were brains upon the 'chute.

Intestines were a-dangling from his paratrooper suit.

He was a mess, they picked him up and poured him from his boots.

And he ain't gonna jump no more.

Sorry got bored

Pfft. Americans.

It's a long way to Tipperary

It's a long way to go

It's a long way to Tipperary

To the sweetest girl I know

Goodbye, Piccadilly

Farewell, Leicester Square!

It's a long, long way to Tipperary

But my heart's right there

It's a long way to Tipperary

It's a long way to go

(Be-bom-bom-bom)

It's a long way to Tipperary

To the sweetest girl I know

(Be-om-be-bom-bom-bom-bom)

Goodbye, Piccadilly

Farewell, Leicester Square!

It's a long, long way to Tipperary

But my heart's right there

Capitalist Slime wrote:Pfft. Americans.

God save our gracious Queen

Long live our noble Queen

God save the Queen

Send her victorious

Happy and glorious

Long to reign over us

God save the Queen

O Lord our God arise

Scatter her enemies

And make them fall

Confound their politics

Frustrate their knavish tricks

On Thee our hopes we fix

God save us all

Thy choicest gifts in store

On her be pleased to pour

Long may she reign

May she defend our laws

And ever give us cause

To sing with heart and voice

God save the Queen

Not in this land alone

But be God's mercies known

From shore to shore

Lord make the nations see

That men should brothers be

And form one family

The wide world over

From every latent foe

From the assassins blow

God save the Queen

O'er her thine arm extend

For Britain's sake defend

Our mother, prince, and friend

God save the Queen

Lord grant that Marshal Wade

May by thy mighty aid

Victory bring

May he sedition hush

And like a torrent rush

Rebellious Scots to crush

God save the King

Oh please if you're gonna step up

Unity and rights and freedom

for the German fatherland.

Let us strive for it together,

brotherly with heart and hand.

Unity and rights and freedom

are the basis of good fortune.

Flower in the light of this good fortune,

flower German fatherland.

Bonnie Blue Republic

Oh Canada we stand on..........

Don't start unless your singing God Save the Queen.

Unbreakable Union of freeborn Republics,

Great Russia has welded forever to stand.

Created in struggle by will of the people,

United and mighty, our Soviet land!

Sing to the Motherland, home of the free,

Bulwark of peoples in brotherhood strong.

O Party of Lenin, the strength of the people,

To Communism's triumph lead us on!

Through tempests the sunrays of freedom have cheered us,

Along the new path where great Lenin did lead.

To a righteous cause he raised up the peoples,

Inspired them to labour and valourous deed.

Sing to the Motherland, home of the free,

Bulwark of peoples in brotherhood strong.

O Party of Lenin, the strength of the people,

To Communism's triumph lead us on!

In the victory of Communism's immortal ideal,

We see the future of our dear land.

And to her fluttering scarlet banner,

Selflessly true we always shall stand!

Sing to the Motherland, home of the free,

Bulwark of peoples in brotherhood strong.

O Party of Lenin, the strength of the people,

To Communism's triumph lead us on!

Bonnie Blue Republic, Some Random Lands

My god, you're pathetic. Let me show you the real anthem.

United forever in friendship and labour,

Our mighty republics will ever endure.

The Great Soviet Union will live through the ages.

The dream of a people their fortress secure.

Long live our Soviet motherland,

Built by the people's mighty hand.

Long live our people, united and free.

Strong in our friendship tried by fire.

Long may our crimson flag inspire,

Shining in glory for all men to see.

Through days dark and stormy where Great Lenin lead us

Our eyes saw the bright sun of freedom above

And Stalin our leader with faith in the people,

Inspired us to build up the land that we love.

Long live our Soviet motherland,

Built by the people's mighty hand.

Long live our people, united and free.

Strong in our friendship tried by fire.

Long may our crimson flag inspire,

Shining in glory for all men to see.

We fought for the future, destroyed the invaders,

And brought to our homeland the laurels of fame.

Our glory will live in the memory of nations

And all generations will honour her name.

Long live our Soviet motherland,

Built by the people's mighty hand.

Long live our people, united and free.

Strong in our friendship tried by fire.

Long may our crimson flag inspire,

Shining in glory for all men to see.

Unike

Capitalist Slime wrote:My god, you're pathetic. Let me show you the real anthem.

United forever in friendship and labour,

Our mighty republics will ever endure.

The Great Soviet Union will live through the ages.

The dream of a people their fortress secure.

Long live our Soviet motherland,

Built by the people's mighty hand.

Long live our people, united and free.

Strong in our friendship tried by fire.

Long may our crimson flag inspire,

Shining in glory for all men to see.

Through days dark and stormy where Great Lenin lead us

Our eyes saw the bright sun of freedom above

And Stalin our leader with faith in the people,

Inspired us to build up the land that we love.

Long live our Soviet motherland,

Built by the people's mighty hand.

Long live our people, united and free.

Strong in our friendship tried by fire.

Long may our crimson flag inspire,

Shining in glory for all men to see.

We fought for the future, destroyed the invaders,

And brought to our homeland the laurels of fame.

Our glory will live in the memory of nations

And all generations will honour her name.

Long live our Soviet motherland,

Built by the people's mighty hand.

Long live our people, united and free.

Strong in our friendship tried by fire.

Long may our crimson flag inspire,

Shining in glory for all men to see.

Bullshit, mines the 1977 translation

Butcherhooks wrote:He was just a rookie trooper and he surely shook with fright.

He checked off his equipment and made sure his pack was tight.

He had to sit and listen to those awful engines roar.

You ain't gonna jump no more.

Chorus:

Gory, gory, what a hell of way to die.

Gory, gory, what a hell of way to die.

Gory, gory, what a hell of way to die.

He ain't gonna jump no more.

"Is everybody happy?" cried the sergeant looking up.

Our hero feebly answered, "Yes", and then they stood him up.

He jumped into the icy blast, his static line unhooked.

And he ain't gonna jump no more.

He counted long, he counted loud, he waited for the shock.

He felt the wind, he felt the cold, he felt the awful drop.

The silk from his reserve spilled out and wrapped around his legs.

And he ain't gonna jump no more.

The risers swung around his neck, connectors cracked his dome.

Suspension lines were tied in knots around his skinny bones.

The canopy became his shroud, he hurtled to the ground.

And he ain't gonna jump no more.

The days he lived and loved and laughed kept running through his mind.

He thought about the girl back home, the one he left behind.

He thought about the medicos and wondered what they'd find.

And he ain't gonna jump no more.

The ambulance was on the spot, the jeeps were running wild.

The medics jumped and screamed with glee, rolled up their sleeves and smiled.

For it had been a week or more since last a 'chute had failed.

And he ain't gonna jump no more.

He hit the ground, the sound was "Splat," his blood went spurting high.

His comrades they were heard to say, "A helluva way to die."

He lay there rolling 'round in the welter of his gore.

And he ain't gonna jump no more.

There was blood upon the risers, there were brains upon the 'chute.

Intestines were a-dangling from his paratrooper suit.

He was a mess, they picked him up and poured him from his boots.

And he ain't gonna jump no more.

Sorry got bored

Ilu Ilúvatar en káre eldain a fírimoin

ar antaróta mannar Valion: númessier.

Toi aina, mána, meldielto - enga morion:

talantie. Melko Mardello lende: márie.

En kárielto eldain Isil, hildin Úr-anar.

Toi írimar. Ilyain antalto annar lestanen

Ilúvatáren. Ilu vanya, fanya, eari,

i-mar, ar ilqa ímen. Írima ye Númenor.

Nan úye sére indo-ninya símen, ullume;

ten sí ye tyelma, yéva tyel ar i narqelion,

íre ilqa yéva nótina, hostainiéva, yallume:

ananta úva táre fárea, ufárea!

Man táre antáva nin Ilúvatar, Ilúvatar

What will the Father, O Father, give me

enyáre tar i tyel, íre Anarinya qeluva?

Archen Federation wrote:Bullshit, mines the 1977 translation

1944, trakhat' tebya!

Why are we doing this?

Capitalist Slime wrote:1944, trakhat' tebya!

Why are we doing this?

I'm stranded at my college over night sooooo.

Butcherhooks, Koriter

There's a yellow rose in Texas

That I am gonna back to see

Nobody else could miss her

Not half as much as me

She cried so when I left her

It like to broke my heart

And if I ever find her

We never more will part

She's the sweetest little rosebud

That Texas ever knew

Her eyes are bright as diamonds

They sparkle like the dew

You may talk about your Clementine

And sing of Rosa Lee

But the Yellow Rose of Texas

Is the only girl for me

Where the Rio Grande is flowin'

And starry skies are bright

She walks along the river

In the quiet summer night

I know that she remembers

When we parted long ago

I promised to return

And not to leave her so

Oh, now I'm gonna find her

For my heart is full of woe

We'll do the things together

We did so long ago

We'll play the banjo gaily

She'll love me like before

And the Yellow Rose of Texas

Shall be mine forevermore

Buryasia, Where Your Deadbeat Dad Lives

I'm quite confused... Is a singing competition going on in the RMB?

Idk what I started lol

You say you want a revolution

Well, you know

We all want to change the world

You tell me that it's evolution

Well, you know

We all want to change the world

But when you talk about destruction

Don't you know that you can count me out

Don't you know it's gonna be

All right, all right, all right

You say you got a real solution

Well, you know

We'd all love to see the plan

You ask me for a contribution

Well, you know

We're doing what we can

But if you want money for people with minds that hate

All I can tell is brother you have to wait

Don't you know it's gonna be

All right, all right, all right

You say you'll change the constitution

Well, you know

We all want to change your head

You tell me it's the institution

Well, you know

You better free you mind instead

But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao

You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow

Don't you know it's gonna be

All right, all right, all right

All right, all right, all right

All right, all right, all right

All right, all right

Where Your Deadbeat Dad Lives

We are a band of brothers

And native to the soil,

Fighting for the property

We gained by honest toil;

And when our rights were threatened,

The cry rose near and far--

"Hurrah for the Bonnie Blue Flag

That bears a single star!"

CHORUS:

Hurrah! Hurrah!

For Southern rights hurrah!

Hurrah for the Bonnie Blue Flag

That bears a single star.

As long as the Union

Was faithful to her trust,

Like friends and like brothers

Both kind were we and just;

But now, when Northern treachery

Attempts our rights to mar,

We hoist on high the Bonnie Blue Flag

That bears a single star.

First gallant South Carolina

Nobly made the stand,

Then came Alabama,

Who took her by the hand.

Next quickly Mississippi,

Georgia and Florida

All raised on high the Bonnie Blue Flag

That bears a single star.

Ye men of valor, gather round

The banner of the right;

Texas and fair Louisiana

Join us in the fight.

Davis, our loved president,

And Stephens statesmen are;

Now rally round the Bonnie Blue Flag

That bears a single star.

And here's to brave Virginia--

The Old Dominion State--

Who with the young Confederacy

At length has linked her fate;

Impelled by her example,

Now other states prepare

To hoist on high the Bonnie Blue Flag

That bears a single star.

Then cheer, boys, cheer;

Raise the joyous shout,

For Arkansas and North Carolina

Now have both gone out;

And let another rousing cheer

For Tennessee be given,

The single star of the Bonnie Blue Flag

Has grown to be eleven.

Then here's to our Confederacy,

Strong are we and brave;

Like patriots of old we'll fight

Our heritage to save.

And rather than submit to shame,

To die we would prefer;

So cheer for the Bonnie Blue Flag

That bears a single star.

The Cincinnatus Republic, Where Your Deadbeat Dad Lives

Listen all ye that hold communion

With southern Confederates bold

While I tell you of some men who for the Union

In the northern ranks were enrolled;

They came to Missouri in their "glory,"

And thought, at their might, we'd be dismayed;

But they soon made them tell a different story

When they met Kelly's Irish Brigade, me boys

When they met Kelly's Irish Brigade

Didn't those cowardly Lincoln-ites tremble

When they met with the Irish brigade?

They have called us rebels and traitors

But themselves have thrown off the name of late

They were called it by the English invaders

At home in the Eve of ninety-eight (1798)

The name to us is not a new one though

Tis' one that shall never degrade

And each blue-hearted Irishman

In the ranks of Kelly's Irish Brigade

When they met with the Irish Brigade, me boys

When they met with the Irish Brigade

Didn't those cowardly Lincoln-ites tremble

When they met with the Irish brigade?

Well they dare not call us invaders

'Tis but state rights and liberties we ask;

And Missouri, we will ever defend her

No matter how hard be the task

Then let the Irishmen assemble

Let the voice of Missouri be obeyed;

And northern fanatics may tremble

When again they meet Kelly's Irish Brigade

When they met with the Irish Brigade, me boys

When they met with the Irish Brigade

Didn't those cowardly Lincoln-ites tremble

When they met with the Irish brigade?

The Cull Obsidian, Bonnie Blue Republic

I’m sooo confused

Modern Israel

Pig Nation wrote:I’m sooo confused

Just roll with it. I am going to say, though: One song per person per day.

Just to keep the RMB from getting totally taken over/spammed.

Where Your Deadbeat Dad Lives

Bonnie Blue Republic wrote:Just roll with it. I am going to say, though: One song per person per day.

Just to keep the RMB from getting totally taken over/spammed.

Yeah did mine for 3 days so have fun

Bonnie Blue Republic, Where Your Deadbeat Dad Lives

You can never have too many Irish songs.

The Cull Obsidian wrote:You can never have too many Irish songs.

*kicks down door*

OH DANNY BOY-

The Cull Obsidian, Bonnie Blue Republic, Butcherhooks, Batelko

Free the North

Bonnie Blue Republic

“I pray at the sink all day, for a revolution.”

Let the singing competition commence!

THE ROAST BEEF OF OLD ENGLAND

When Mighty Roast Beef was the Englishman's Food

It ennobl'd our veins and enriched our Blood:

Our Soldiers were Brave and our Courtiers were Good:

Oh! The Roast Beef of Old England,

And Old English Roast Beef.

But since we have learned from all vapouring France,

To eat their Ragouts, as well as to Dance.

We are fed up with nothing but vain Complaisance,

Oh! The Roast Beef, etc.

Our Fathers, of old, were Robust, Stout and Strong,

And kept open House, with good cheer all day long.

Which made their plump Tenants rejoyce in this Song,

Oh! The Roast Beef, etc.

But now we are dwindled, to what shall I name,

A sneaking poor Race, half begotten ... and Tame,

Who Sully those Honours that once shone in Fame,

Oh! The Roast Beef, etc.

When good Queen Elizabeth sate on the throne

E'er Coffee and Tea and such slip-slops were known;

The World was in Terror if e'er she did frown.

Oh! The Roast Beef, etc.

In those days, if Fleets did presume on the Main,

They seldom, or never, return'd back again,

As witness, the Vaunting Armada of Spain.

Oh! The Roast Beef, etc.

Oh! Then we had stomachs to eat, and to fight:

And when wrongs were a-cooking to do ourselves right,

But now we're a ... I could, but good Night.

Oh! The Roast Beef, etc.

Look down and see the beggars at your feet

Look down and show some mercy if you can

Look down and see the sweepings of the street

Look down, look down,

Upon your fellow man!

'Ow do you do? My name's Gavroche

These are my people, here's my patch.

Not much to look at, nothing posh

Nothing that you'd call up to scratch

This is my school, my high society

Here in the slums of Saint Michele

We live on crumbs of humble piety

Tough on the teeth, but what the hell!

Think you're poor?

Think you're free?

Follow me! Follow me!

Look down and show some mercy if you can

Look down, look down, upon your fellow man!

There was a time we killed the King

We tried to change the world too fast

Now we have got another King

He's no better than the last

This is the land the fought for liberty

Now when we fight, we fight for bread

Here is the thing about equality

Everyone's equal when they're dead

Take your place!

Take your chance!

Vive la France! Vive la France!

Look down and show some mercy if you can

Look down, look down, upon your fellow man!

When's it gonna end?

When we gonna live?

Something's gotta happen now!

Something's gotta give!

It'll come, it'll come, it'll come

It'll come, it'll come

Where the leaders of the land?

Where is the king who runs this show?

Only one man, General Lamarque

Speaks for the people here below

Lamarque is ill and fading fast!

Won't last the week out, so they say.

With all the anger in the land

How long before the judgement day?

Before we cut the fat ones down to size?

Before the barricades arise?

After a while of debating, Congress in Some Random Lands has begun to publish a series about the history of Some Random Lands(in my Factbook), and a creation of an official anthem, which will cause the country to be placed into the singing competition.

Bonnie Blue Republic, Modern Israel

So I just changed my nation classification...

Thoughts?

Buryasia, Some Random Lands, Okla-Texas, Modern Israel

I'm now a Diplomatic Union. Thought it was more appropriate. We're still a democratic republic-like nation but I thought renaming it to Diplomatic Union better describes Okla-Texas.

Moonshiners wrote:So I just changed my nation classification...

Thoughts?

What do you mean

Some Random Lands wrote:What do you mean

The prefix.

There's a population milestone that lets you set that to something custom.

Some Random Lands, Okla-Texas

I'm now a Voluntary Republic. Fits well since all of the funding and laws my government does is funded through donations.

Buryasia

I'll gladly vote against the current resolution if the overwhelming majority of our region's nations are, but why exactly are we so against it? Is it due to any oversimplifications or faulty reasoning, or to protect business and the economy?

Some Random Lands

The Cincinnatus Republic wrote:I'll gladly vote against the current resolution if the overwhelming majority of our region's nations are, but why exactly are we so against it? Is it due to any oversimplifications or faulty reasoning, or to protect business and the economy?

If you've seen the description of the region, it's pretty Pro-Capitalist and doesn't support regulating business.

The Cincinnatus Republic wrote:I'll gladly vote against the current resolution if the overwhelming majority of our region's nations are, but why exactly are we so against it? Is it due to any oversimplifications or faulty reasoning, or to protect business and the economy?

Some Random Lands wrote:If you've seen the description of the region, it's pretty Pro-Capitalist and doesn't support regulating business.

Pretty much that.

We're an overwhelmingly pro-business, pro free market region.

The American Imperialists, Clarkentrent, Some Random Lands

The Cincinnatus Republic, IMHO if you limit WA nations, non-WA nations can undercut them, so in this particular case, lets say there was a WA nation that had fairly stringent environmental protections that were not quite up to the proposal's requirements. It would have to increase these protections, most likely at a great expense that then is included in its export prices. Meanwhile, the non-WA nations continue to plunder the environment and now gain a larger market share worldwide because of increased prices for more responsible nations. Net result, the environment is harmed by the regulation which purports to protect it.

In general, nations that value environmental stewardship will make the best decisions for their own industries. A world government cannot possibly make good decisions at the local level. Regulations are good. Local regulations. The WA should do 90% less than what it does.

Some Random Lands, Bluximburg, Modern Israel, The Cincinnatus Republic

Moonshiners wrote:So I just changed my nation classification...

Thoughts?

I think that it suits you! I was surprised when I came to that point in my population when I could be able to do that.

The Cincinnatus Republic wrote:I'll gladly vote against the current resolution if the overwhelming majority of our region's nations are, but why exactly are we so against it? Is it due to any oversimplifications or faulty reasoning, or to protect business and the economy?

Let me lay it out nice and simple:

If they regulate Manufacturing, we have a more closely watched business syndicate.

If it's closely watched, then we have to bribe them.

If we can't bribe them, then we have court cases.

If we have court cases, we have laws.

If those laws are anti-trust laws, then big business regions, like this, are shut down.

If we're shut down, then that's that.

SO VOTE AGAINST THE BLOODY WATER BILL! MY WATER IS FINE!

Bluximburg, Modern Israel, The Cincinnatus Republic

Hello! I just joined, and I hope this place has an open community!

Buryasia, The American Imperialists, The Cincinnatus Republic, Where Your Deadbeat Dad Lives

It's your WA Delegate, here to do his job!

The current WA resolution is for the most part harmless, with the exception of one point:

[list]"5. Targets alarming and extreme circumstances of reckless pollution in freshwater resources by limiting nations' annual manufacturing blue water footprint to a maximum of 30%

[list]a. This limit will take effect ten years after the bill is passed by the World Assembly"[/list][/list]

Being a fiercely pro-market region, and a capitalist region, it is clear to see why this is bad for us. We are literally a business!. We need to have the freedom to operate our business as we please without these limitations on our natural resource expenditure. We can not produce efficiently with this limitation, and although it takes effect ten years after the passing of the resolution, a regulation on water pollution is a regulation on water pollution. Again also, this is a regulation. Sound familiar? That's right, its just another way the WA is trying to strip us of our national sovereignty. Being a highly Anti-WA region, a Capitalist region, A Pro-market region, and a slew of other things, this bill is against a great many of the ideals that define this region, and with this in mind, I advise that you vote AGAINST this resolution.

Butcherhooks, The Cincinnatus Republic, Where Your Deadbeat Dad Lives

Was wollen wir trinken, sieben Tage lang?

Was wollen wir trinken, so ein Durst!

Was wollen wir trinken, sieben Tage lang?

Was wollen wir trinken, so ein Durst!

Es wird genug für alle sein!

Wir trinken zusammen, roll' das Fass mal rein!

Wir trinken zusammen, nicht allein!

Es wird genug für alle sein!

Wir trinken zusammen, roll' das Fass mal rein!

Wir trinken zusammen, nicht allein!

Dann wollen wir schaffen, sieben Tage lang.

Dann wollen wir schaffen, komm fass' an!

Dann wollen wir schaffen, sieben Tage lang.

Dann wollen wir schaffen, komm fass' an!

Und das wird keine Plackerei!

Wir schaffen zusammen, sieben Tage lang!

Wir schaffen zusammen, nicht allein!

Und das wird keine Plackerei!

Wir schaffen zusammen, sieben Tage lang!

Wir schaffen zusammen, nicht allein!Jetzt müssen wir streiten, keiner weiß wie lang.

Ja, für ein Leben ohne Zwang.

Jetzt müssen wir streiten, keiner weiß wie lang.

Ja, für ein Leben ohne Zwang.

Dann kriegt der Frust uns nicht mehr klein.

Wir halten zusammen, keiner kämpft allein!

Wir gehen zusammen, nicht allein!

Dann kriegt der Frust uns nicht mehr klein.

Wir halten zusammen, keiner kämpft allein!

Wir gehen zusammen, nicht allein!

Have this song stuck in my head heres a link for a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkUSop_d4ck

Saint Gloria, Where Your Deadbeat Dad Lives

It's your WA Delegate, here to do his job! (for a different resolution)! About the SC resolution, I think we should vote against. The resolution itself states that the region that was attacked was declining in activity and population anyway, and their founder had CTE'd. It is clear that the region was pretty much dead anyway, and the invasion simply sped up the process. I suggest voting AGAINST the SC resolution.

Also, I have surpassed Capitalist Piggys in Influence points, as a WA Delegate sometimes does, putting me in 1st. This will allow me to eject or banject nations more easily the more influence I have, and will allow me to carry out the disciplinary actions expected of a Delegate more easily.

Fanter Kesh

Torranta wrote:It's your WA Delegate, here to do his job! (for a different resolution)! About the SC resolution, I think we should vote against. The resolution itself states that the region that was attacked was declining in activity and population anyway, and their founder had CTE'd. It is clear that the region was pretty much dead anyway, and the invasion simply sped up the process. I suggest voting AGAINST the SC resolution.

Also, I have surpassed Capitalist Piggys in Influence points, as a WA Delegate sometimes does, putting me in 1st. This will allow me to eject or banject nations more easily the more influence I have and will allow me to carry out the disciplinary actions expected of a Delegate more easily.

1st off, the SC resolution. This brings up an interesting question: Do regions who have invaded or occupied other nations, are extremely dead, or just have low and insignificant populaces deserve the rights of other regions? Say I invade Little McTimmy's region. He gets upset, and goes to the WA, even though he recently occupied my region. His proposal passes, and he invades my region. However, he's now protected by the WA, nulling my region. Extremely dead regions who get occupied are kinda asking for it, although I do applaud them for breaking the Nationstates addiction. And if the populace of a region is insignificant, yet their leader is a superpower, should we help them?

2nd off, I think that nowadays regional leaders are gaining more power and influence. It's kinda sad to see good regions go to waste cuz' their leader is a despot, but he's still founder, and still holds influence, so the WA can't do anything. I think if we really ever want to make a dent in this cycle, then the WA should create some kind of political regulations to limit lead power. That way, we don't have those things where its "OH HEY JIMMY, I'M YOUR RULER AND HERE'S MY RULES: Number 1: You can't do anything", etc. There should be something in place in case someone starts a dictatorial rule.

Post by Krainer The Wise suppressed by Torranta.

Krainer The Wise

I'm not in the WA for this specific reason. Let's break this trash pile of red tape down, shall we?

First off, all regions are created equal. I don't care about this piece of sh*t's comment, and it shouldn't matter. I feel like the WA made the SC just to regulate us, the community.

Second off, this jack*ss thinks that there SHOULD BE REGULATIONS FOR FOUNDERS. This person says, that there should be something to hold a founder back. BOI. ISN'T WHAT THE SC IS FOR? My god, this kid is autistic.

Buddy, if you're gonna cuss, at least say it to my face, instead of hiding behind WA regulated barriers.

Also, how old are you?

I also get the feeling this kid is an American. Not trying to be racist.

Where Your Deadbeat Dad Lives

Too much four loko and adderall for little Krainer

Buryasia

Agreed. It's best if you don't take your pills while your typing.

Where Your Deadbeat Dad Lives

The Cull Obsidian wrote:Too much four loko and adderall for little Krainer

Haha, What is four loko?

Four Loco (banned in several states) is like highly concentrated and toxic malt liquor mixed with caffeine so you can stay awake until it kills you. But it should not be regulated, cuz, capitalism.

Krainer The Wise wrote:I'm not in the WA for this specific reason. Let's break this trash pile of red tape down, shall we?

First off, all regions are created equal. I don't care about this piece of sh*t's comment, and it shouldn't matter. I feel like the WA made the SC just to regulate us, the community.

Second off, this jack*ss thinks that there SHOULD BE REGULATIONS FOR FOUNDERS. This person says, that there should be something to hold a founder back. BOI. ISN'T WHAT THE SC IS FOR? My god, this kid is autistic.

No need for brash insults, we're all here on the RMB to have a civil discussion, and becomes very unproductive when both sides slander against each other on a personal level.

The American Imperialists, Some Random Lands

Capitalist Slime wrote:1st off, the SC resolution. This brings up an interesting question: Do regions who have invaded or occupied other nations, are extremely dead, or just have low and insignificant populaces deserve the rights of other regions? Say I invade Little McTimmy's region. He gets upset, and goes to the WA, even though he recently occupied my region. His proposal passes, and he invades my region. However, he's now protected by the WA, nulling my region. Extremely dead regions who get occupied are kinda asking for it, although I do applaud them for breaking the Nationstates addiction. And if the populace of a region is insignificant, yet their leader is a superpower, should we help them?

2nd off, I think that nowadays regional leaders are gaining more power and influence. It's kinda sad to see good regions go to waste cuz' their leader is a despot, but he's still founder, and still holds influence, so the WA can't do anything. I think if we really ever want to make a dent in this cycle, then the WA should create some kind of political regulations to limit lead power. That way, we don't have those things where its "OH HEY JIMMY, I'M YOUR RULER AND HERE'S MY RULES: Number 1: You can't do anything", etc. There should be something in place in case someone starts a dictatorial rule.

In this particular instance, the region that was invaded had no founder. The Founder had Ceased to Exist, and the region itself was already dying. There really isn't much to defend here, so if the invader region wants to waste their troops occupying a dead region anyway, let them.

So I finally abolished the death penalty, which I feel good about. Crime (thankfully) hasn't been an issue in Okla-Texas since its founding, so I felt no reason to keep it. Quite happy tbh.

The United Banking Associaton

Torranta wrote:In this particular instance, the region that was invaded had no founder. The Founder had Ceased to Exist, and the region itself was already dying. There really isn't much to defend here, so if the invader region wants to waste their troops occupying a dead region anyway, let them.

I still don't like the idea of a region being occupied, even if the region is mostly empty. I'll still vote for the liberation

Cizicus

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Torranta

The American Imperialists wrote:I still don't like the idea of a region being occupied, even if the region is mostly empty. I'll still vote for the liberation

The very fact that the invader region is wasting nations to occupy the pretty much dead region prevents its capacity to invade larger, more active regions.

Fanter Kesh

If their leader became inactive and ceased to exist it's their own fault. They should have bailed when that first happened. Further calling people a "Fascist" is just moronic. The entire point of nationstates is to run a nation how YOU want, not how is acceptable to the world.

The Cull Obsidian, Butcherhooks, The Cincinnatus Republic

Archen Federation wrote:If their leader became inactive and ceased to exist it's their own fault. They should have bailed when that first happened. Further calling people a "Fascist" is just moronic. The entire point of nationstates is to run a nation how YOU want, not how is acceptable to the world.

My policy on Invader regions is a bit confusing. I do think that most of the time, raider regions should be free to raid whoever the heck they want. It's their region, and R/D has become a big part of this game. Trying to hold them back is affecting the very nature of this game and a big part of what many nations enjoy doing on this site. As for the nations that are invaded. Most of the time only the most vulnerable of regions that have taken no precautions whatsoever or are dying anyway are the ones who are invaded. So, for the sake of letting the Invader regions play the game how they like, I still say we should vote against.

The Cull Obsidian

Torranta wrote:My policy on Invader regions is a bit confusing. I do think that most of the time, raider regions should be free to raid whoever the heck they want. It's their region, and R/D has become a big part of this game. Trying to hold them back is affecting the very nature of this game and a big part of what many nations enjoy doing on this site. As for the nations that are invaded. Most of the time only the most vulnerable of regions that have taken no precautions whatsoever or are dying anyway are the ones who are invaded. So, for the sake of letting the Invader regions play the game how they like, I still say we should vote against.

I vote against liberation referendums every time. I specifically referencing the wording the person chose. In modern society if you call someone a fascist you will get people fired up, which is why I assume this one is passing where the last what, 4 or 5? have failed.

Archen Federation wrote:I vote against liberation referendums every time. I specifically referencing the wording the person chose. In modern society if you call someone a fascist you will get people fired up, which is why I assume this one is passing where the last what, 4 or 5? have failed.

I agree, calling the invading region “Fascists” was a turn off to me for their cause. It came off as childish name calling. I vote against

Archen Federation, Butcherhooks, The Cincinnatus Republic

Fanter Kesh wrote:I agree, calling the invading region “Fascists” was a turn off to me for their cause. It came off as childish name calling. I vote against

Strictly speaking one could call my nation Fascist, more specifically, communist.

Fanter Kesh

Archen Federation wrote:Strictly speaking one could call my nation Fascist, more specifically, communist.

And your entitled to make your nation whatever you want it to be, I think someone already mentioned that it’s the whole point of NS. To use a regions stance/ government as a attack in the WA just seemed low.

Fanter Kesh wrote:And your entitled to make your nation whatever you want it to be, I think someone already mentioned that it’s the whole point of NS. To use a regions stance/ government as a attack in the WA just seemed low.

Exactly. I mean if I took over a region I would run it how *I* wanted it. I conquered it, it's mine, therefore, shove it.

Also: United Socialist States of Archen Federation

Fanter Kesh

I don’t know, the whole thing just stinks of people being bitter, and wanting the WA to take care of everything. I’ll admit I’m not a expert on how raiding or invasions work, but I take the position of: it happened, you don’t even have a founder anymore, get over it and move on. (This is a bit easier for me to say as I haven’t been a part of a region that has been invaded)

Archen Federation

Fanter Kesh wrote:I don’t know, the whole thing just stinks of people being bitter, and wanting the WA to take care of everything. I’ll admit I’m not a expert on how raiding or invasions work, but I take the position of: it happened, you don’t even have a founder anymore, get over it and move on. (This is a bit easier for me to say as I haven’t been a part of a region that has been invaded)

Its a little more detailed from my understanding but just about that

Fanter Kesh

Archen Federation wrote:Its a little more detailed from my understanding but just about that

It looks like it will be passed through. Noob question but what exactly happens when it does? The WA punishes the KAISERRIECH somehow?

Fanter Kesh wrote:It looks like it will be passed through. Noob question but what exactly happens when it does? The WA punishes the KAISERRIECH somehow?

Pretty sure he'll get booted from the region, along with any trophy nations probably. I've never seen it happen.

...Kaiserreich has his own radio station...

Also if you actually go to look at the region? They discussed the same thing on the board

We should invite them to build embassies here.

Fanter Kesh

Fanter Kesh wrote:It looks like it will be passed through. Noob question but what exactly happens when it does? The WA punishes the KAISERRIECH somehow?

The Password that they set on the region gets taken down and allows nations to enter it and try to retake it.

Fanter Kesh

Torranta wrote:The Password that they set on the region gets taken down and allows nations to enter it and try to retake it.

Which probably won't happen.

Torranta I think we should open talks with them, maybe offer embassies? Show support to them?

Archen Federation wrote:Pretty sure he'll get booted from the region, along with any trophy nations probably. I've never seen it happen.

...Kaiserreich has his own radio station...

Also if you actually go to look at the region? They discussed the same thing on the board

We should invite them to build embassies here.

Kaiserriech? My old nation before this one Fanter Farad was part of the Reich. I hold no connections over there anymore but I can vouch for the region if need be.

Archen Federation

Archen Federation wrote:Which probably won't happen.

Torranta I think we should open talks with them, maybe offer embassies? Show support to them?

The situation is much deeper than offering support to the raiders. I think that we should be under their radar, and not get involved in helping other regions, who have been raided.

Archen Federation wrote:Which probably won't happen.

Torranta I think we should open talks with them, maybe offer embassies? Show support to them?

Fanter Kesh wrote:Kaiserriech? My old nation before this one Fanter Farad was part of the Reich. I hold no connections over there anymore but I can vouch for the region if need be.

The United Banking Associaton wrote:The situation is much deeper than offering support to the raiders. I think that we should be under their radar, and not get involved in helping other regions, who have been raided.

And what do you all hope to accomplish through all this?

Fanter Kesh

Torranta wrote:And what do you all hope to accomplish through all this?

I cannot speak for the other two, I just want to suggest that we keep the door open to possible alliances with nations who raid. It’s better to be friends then foes right? LE might never have to worry about being raided, but isn’t it better to be safe rather then sorry? I don’t pretend to be a expert on inter-regional relationships, but I felt that I should share my line of thinking

Archen Federation

Torranta wrote:And what do you all hope to accomplish through all this?

Admittedly, I know I'm joining a bit late in the conversation, but judging by what has been said, I say we have an open-door immigration policy. I know we probably have to vote for this, but being completely open to others means an income of businesses. This also will sound quite a bit different from what I've previously said, but we could potentially benefit from of the disparity of a region (Here come the oh-so-nice comments). Look, I know that's a bit underhanded, but we're a business, right? We do underhanded things. Some people here have a clean track record, others might contain the souls of thousands of the dead. But so long as we keep them in check while maintaining a democratic stance, we could see an unprecedented amount of refugees. Because this is a pretty big gamble, a lot of stuff could happen. We don't want to have riots and anarchists blowing us up, do we? Nonetheless, I think the policy would be beneficial whenever a crisis arises in the WA(Sorry about what I said, I do feel for those refugees, I'm one myself)

Also, sorry I kept looping, but I don't know how to say otherwise.

Are we really going to listen to a guy who has Curfew as one of his national policies?

Krainer The Wise wrote:Are we really going to listen to a guy who has Curfew as one of his national policies?

Ok, so, maybe I have a disliked national policy. That doesn't give you the right to make these sorts of comments. Nations govern themselves how they want to. I modeled mine off the USSR, and it shouldn't matter that I did. In my opinion, society nowadays is way to judgemental.

Capitalist Slime wrote:Ok, so, maybe I have a disliked national policy. That doesn't give you the right to make these sorts of comments. Nations govern themselves how they want to. I modeled mine off the USSR, and it shouldn't matter that I did. In my opinion, society nowadays is way to judgemental.

dis nigga

HEY! I'M BACK! Y'all might remember me, from like, last year... I went inactive, and ceased to exist.

Modern Israel

Keltro wrote:HEY! I'M BACK! Y'all might remember me, from like, last year... I went inactive, and ceased to exist.

Welcome back! it looks like you went inactive right around the time that I joined the region xD. Nice to meet you.

Torranta wrote:And what do you all hope to accomplish through all this?

By not getting involved we will not be at any danger. If we decide to help one of the sides, we will be risking our region.

Buryasia

The United Banking Associaton wrote:By not getting involved we will not be at any danger. If we decide to help one of the sides, we will be risking our region.

I agree with this man. You sir, u smrt.

The United Banking Associaton

Krainer The Wise wrote:I agree with this man. You sir, u smrt.

What does that even mean?

Archen Federation wrote:Strictly speaking one could call my nation Fascist, more specifically, communist.

A pro business socialist state, huh, you don't see those everyday.

Buryasia

Cizicus wrote:A pro business socialist state, huh, you don't see those everyday.

Yeah, it's kinda rare to see those nowadays.

Capitalist Slime wrote:Yeah, it's kinda rare to see those nowadays.

Says who, comrade? For...*hic*...The Soviet Union!

The Cincinnatus Republic

yeet ma communist brutha gucci gang

-Facepalms and stares blankly into soul-

What is life....

After reading RMB for about an hour Just gonna say my opinion on the matter of Fascist states. I'm a very Nationalistic in my mind set and very vocal on how certain matters are to be discussed. I kind of find it irritating when I see nations on this RMB picking fun at others due to their policies which are all random from what I can see hell my nation has curfews just because my youth rebelliousness was getting out of hand. Being a Fascist is not always a bad thing its just a word used to sway people to your side of thinking aka Antifa. Plus Fascists are National Socialist from Mussolini's Italy and were in power longer than Adolf Hitler.

Capitalist Slime

Butcherhooks wrote:After reading RMB for about an hour Just gonna say my opinion on the matter of Fascist states. I'm a very Nationalistic in my mind set and very vocal on how certain matters are to be discussed. I kind of find it irritating when I see nations on this RMB picking fun at others due to their policies which are all random from what I can see hell my nation has curfews just because my youth rebelliousness was getting out of hand. Being a Fascist is not always a bad thing its just a word used to sway people to your side of thinking aka Antifa. Plus Fascists are National Socialist from Mussolini's Italy and were in power longer than Adolf Hitler.

I love this guy.

Post by Krainer The Wise suppressed by Torranta.

Krainer The Wise

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Today's a big day politically! There are primary elections in my state. I remember when I could first vote, it was pretty interesting.

Buryasia, Fanter Kesh

Okla-Texas wrote:Today's a big day politically! There are primary elections in my state.

Our’s is coming up soon as well, I’m pretty excited because this will be the first year I can vote

Okla-Texas

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