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Region: Lands End
Y'all are being so dramatic. Not double posting (when an edit button is available) is the easiest thing in the world. Not ejecting people is a close second. The cancer guilt trip is basically irrelevant, and so is the little "you'll have to banject me too" protest.
Double-posting people: just stop. Duh.
Iron-fisted managers: I just read your rules, and they say absolutely nothing about double posting. How did nobody notice this before flipping out at a bunch of noobs?
TL;DR: Buncha idjits, you lot. Nobody is approaching this intelligently.
Edit: checking to make sure the edit feature still works. Spoiler alert, it does. No excuses.
Nilas, Akaroa, Araluen Ranger Corps
Post self-deleted by Liberum Imperium.
I'm not saying anything :)
Akaroa, Araluen Ranger Corps
Akaroa, Araluen Ranger Corps
Alright, thank you for your input, but this is a Lands End matter.
Nilas, Araluen Ranger Corps
"cancer guilt trip"?? it's his life. not a guilt trip. I do appreciate your stance on the rules though. I do dmit that I stopped reading at "cancer guilt trip" out of shock.
I'll retract my previous statement
Araluen Ranger Corps
Supero Omnia, Akaroa, Araluen Ranger Corps
There is nothing dramatic about feeling sympathy for another human being. Also, just because a rule isnt in a dispatch doesnt mean it doesnt exist, and the protest, as you call is less of a protest and more of hey, I dont want to be in this region anymore if hes not. Also, the guilt trip is legit. Theres no way banjecting Modern Israel could possibly be the right thing to do in this situation.
Nilas, Xadrya, Bluximburg, Araluen Ranger Corps
Please allow us to resolve the matter internally and refrain from interjecting yourself into our affairs. You basically insulted various groups of people in the region, and I think your insults were out of place. This matter does not concern you or Conch Kingdom. Thank you.
Nilas, Xadrya, Clarkentrent, Araluen Ranger Corps
Akaroa
HE didn't use anything. HE had accepted his sentence. I decided to share his story because I felt as though I had to do something.
Xadrya
We make the rules well known to newbies.
Nilas, Liberum Imperium
As the COO of this region I must ask that you not insult our leadership. We justly punished the offenders, but the general populace fervently disagreed, so we changed our mind. Thats what a governnwnt is all about. Instead of serving the region itself, we chose to serve the people of the region, which is what any government should do. Considering this, Id have to say your insult of the government was out of place and invalid.
Nilas, Xadrya, Liberum Imperium
Why are you commenting in our threads? Are you the designated ambassador from your region? I have filed a complain with your Ministry of Foreign Affairs. p.s.: Positive input is appreciated, but negative comments are not welcomed here, especially if you are representing your region.
Nilas, Clarkentrent, Liberum Imperium
Honest Question: I thought we allowed any opinions in our RMB? I disagree but I thought people could say what they wanted here... I don't know, not experienced in embassy etiquette.
North-West America, Nilas, Supero Omnia
Thats not necessary.
We give nations 2 warnings before taking action. If those 2 warnings dont tell them and everyone who sees it what the rule is, thats on them.
You cherry picked my words there. If you had taken into consideration what I said next, you would have noticed that I was talking about how a government should serve their people, not about changing our minds just because someone didnt like our decision. I hate cherry picking.
Nilas
HE didn't use anything. HE had accepted his sentence. I decided to share his story because I felt as though I had to do something. It seems you "missed" my message so I'll keep posting until you acknowledge what I'm saying and retract calling his life story "gross"
Being a government that listens to the people's wishes is not a necessarily a negative thing.
Nilas, Bluximburg
Confederation Of Tesdai and Nosotalio, I call on you to remove the following from your WFE: "unrestricted exchange of goods and ideas" and "not getting offended." Clearly, those are not ideas your region's leadership believes in.
Yaangze
What you are sharing is not goods, and we are allowing your ideas to spread here. You just dont seem to be able to comprehend the fact that we are allowed to share our ideas in return.
Nilas, Nosotalio, Xadrya, Bluximburg, Yaangze
Huh, I always wondered if banning someone would shut them up if they have embassy relations. I wonder if it worked?
Unike, New Jaedonstan, Xadrya, Liberum Imperium, Yaangze
Bravo!
Xadrya, Yaangze
I think It's important that everyone sees this. (especially those concerned with the case) I'm not "spamming" this or anything, just quoting myself once incase someone missed it. (and to remind nosey foreiners that I shared his story. not him)
Nosotalio, Xadrya, Yaangze
Thank you.
I'm going to bed. Good night folks, big day tomorrow. Hope the situation has been handled. :)
Nilas, Liberum Imperium, Yaangze
That was a mess.
Xadrya, Liberum Imperium, Modern Israel
I hope so too.
Xadrya, Modern Israel
I do apologize for this. This whole situation was blown out of proportion. I will assure everyone that nothing like this will happen in the future.
Nilas, Liberum Imperium, Bluximburg, Modern Israel
We all have bad days. Ill admit we messed up today, by trying to punish unjustly a nation. We tried our best to show our teeth a bit and get the double posting infestation under control but we ended up being in the wrong. Our panic to fix the situation clouded our judgement a bit and mistakes were made.
It seems as though every time a single situation comes up, our Board freaks out and blows things out of proportion. Thats on us. We will make certain to try to keep things in perspective in the future and to be more calm in these situations. Punishing nations for breaking the rules should not have been this catastrophic.
Nilas, Liberum Imperium, Modern Israel
Modern Israel steam messaged me to tell everyone that he just felt mortified and logged of for the night a few hours ago, incase anyone has been trying to telegram him.
I hope he knows he is welcome here.
Nilas, Liberum Imperium, Modern Israel
I'm logging off for the night, I hope tomorrow is a better day for everyone.
Xadrya
Hello I am new to the game have any tips or anything?
Xadrya
Yeah, check out this dispatch and dont double post. https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=878866
Nilas
Welcome! If you have any questions about the region, or want to know how to become a shareholder,
see here
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=878866
Anything not answered there can be answered on the regional message board by one of our members.
I would put emphasis on dont double post.
What Is double posting I want to be safe
It's posting right after another post of yours with no post of anyone else's in between. If you have more to add the edit button is always there.
Torranta, Xadrya
The worst sin you can possibly commit
New Jaedonstan, Xadrya, Araluen Ranger Corps
Welcome to December folks. A month to spend time with your family and friends or at the least take presents from other people. I'll be posting the RMB report for November tonight. Hope everyone has a nice day.
Clarkentrent, Araluen Ranger Corps, Yaangze
Wait, did You really ban NWA for insulting your government, that seems so familiar to me, oh wait that's what communes do, yep I'm leaving.
North-West America, Araluen Ranger Corps, Yaangze
Post self-deleted by Xadrya.
The reason why NWA was banned was the way he insulted the government. The way he acted was completely childish, and what he was saying was definitely not helping the situation. I was planning on unbanning him after 24 hours, but Torranta beat me to it. I just wanted to ban him long enough, so the situation could fully be resolved.
Edit: But if you wish to leave, then go right ahead.
Xadrya, Bluximburg, Koriter, Araluen Ranger Corps
So, last night didn't look so good.
But I'm back and dandy. :)
Xadrya, Clarkentrent, Araluen Ranger Corps
Yeah. I think it's handled.
Modern Israel, Araluen Ranger Corps
WOAH! We made it to December already! And it felt like Thanksgiving was at the start.
Merry December. :)
Xadrya, Koriter, Araluen Ranger Corps
I as well
Modern Israel
Good Morning.
Araluen Ranger Corps
when do you think whats his face (srry I forget) to eject me?
Araluen Ranger Corps
Torranta is one of my favorite government officials.
Xadrya, Araluen Ranger Corps
It will be Tesdai. Tes's presence here on NS has been increasingly low, so it might be a couple days.
Araluen Ranger Corps
Post by Lost Lion suppressed by Confederation Of Tesdai.
Modern Israel has done a beautiful job on his Nation page, which truly does reflect and honor Israel. If he is banned, or simply chooses to move on, I know he will be much loved and welcomed in Kaisertum Osterreich, which may well be the home of his ancestors. This Austrian Habsburg Empire would be thrilled to have Galicia repopulated, as it was for centuries, by Jewish Nations.
Regards,
Lost Lion
.an experiment in anarchy.
Modern Israel, Araluen Ranger Corps
Our rmb board is not your region's recruitment tool. Thank you.
Koriter, Araluen Ranger Corps
The poll doesn't include Sufism Islam. Discrimination! Okay, not really, I'm just trolling. However, I do appreciate the more fleshed out poll.
Araluen Ranger Corps, Lost Lion
Hey guys Scarce here (excuse my dead meme) so some stuff went down last night. Maybe we should add no double posting to the regions dispatch just to stop incidents like this.
Koriter, Araluen Ranger Corps
Looking back over the RMB, things got even crazier after I logged off for the night yesterday. A certain always well intentioned Liberum Imperium went a *bit* overboard and accused people of heartlessness; and a busy body from the Conch Kingdom said some very not nice things. Thank you to everyone who showed a lot of compassion towards me, and thank you government officials who have decided not to ban me (they'll just eject after which I can immediately come back, which I will, because I love this region). All the drama last night was pretty draining (for everyone involved I assume), so it would be very nice if things could just sort of go back to normal :)
Atkemri, Clarkentrent, Liberum Imperium, Bluximburg, Koriter, Araluen Ranger Corps
IRL, dozens of Sufi were murdered by extra devout Sunni the other day in Egypt. Because the Sufi preach tolerance and spiritual enlightenment, it angers the crazies. Showing their name online, even in an obscure poll, can only be helpful.
Saint Gloria, Modern Israel, Araluen Ranger Corps
My public thanks to Torranta for being the only one with a scrap of professionalism.
Araluen Ranger Corps
hello what is going on right now
You don't think one thing back there may have been uncalled for considering the circumstances?
Araluen Ranger Corps
Araluen Ranger Corps
Ok, I agree with some of your points from last night, for example, I think we should have our rules listed to avoid confusion. Despite that, I think everyone would appreciate it if we all didn't start this back up again.
Araluen Ranger Corps
First and the one I find the most grievous is calling the story of someones relative dieing a 'sob story'. I have had close relatives die and it hurts a lot especially seeing that this game helped me deal with it. Seeing he is in the same situation being attacked in this community space is very inappropriate. You could have made yourself seem less hostile instead you became as hostile as possible against the government who had already decided on what would happen in the situation.
Modern Israel, Araluen Ranger Corps
Araluen Ranger Corps
He was mostly correct. We messed up and that's on us. I don't like the way he treated Modern Israel's irl situation, though.
Modern Israel, Araluen Ranger Corps
I agree. However, based off of the more recent posts getting back into this, it appears that whatever goal of fixing the issue at hand has been cast aside. If you and nations in our region wish to discuss whatever problems you deem there to be, such as the rules not being listed, please do that. Please do NOT get back into an argument that does not relate to the problem.
Araluen Ranger Corps
I'm just saying he could be less hostile.
Araluen Ranger Corps
Edit: If the story had been posted on its own, I wouldn't have said anything critical. However, a terminal illness was used by a third party to justify something in-game, and I have a problem with that. Does that make sense yet?
Araluen Ranger Corps
The issue was about if he'd be banjected or not. It was not about double posting
Araluen Ranger Corps
To be fair, you didn't say sob story. You said "guilt trip", which I think is just as terrible.
Araluen Ranger Corps
Alright. Do that. I just ask you and everyone else who chooses to involve themselves in the discussion to do so in a polite manner. We had an angry and hostile argument last night on our RMB and we should avoid having one again.
Araluen Ranger Corps
Araluen Ranger Corps
hey you are just an embassy stay out of our regions problems especially after they are already solved
Liberum Imperium
Araluen Ranger Corps
Please just stay out of our region's problems before you are our regions problem
Liberum Imperium
Well ether way it's just as bad. North West America the reason you were banned is for being hostile. In all my time in Land's End not once has arguing like that occured. You came in,insulted people,called someones death a guilt trip,and were generally hostile to all involved. To be 100% honest seeing as you came back after your first ban and attempt to start something else I would have permanently banned you from this point onwards.
Liberum Imperium, Araluen Ranger Corps
Araluen Ranger Corps
Reading comprehension, folks. Reading comprehension. There is a severe lack of it around here. For the tenth time, the death itself was not a guilt trip (that wouldn't even make logical sense). Its use for in-game leverage was.
Araluen Ranger Corps
Post by Koriter suppressed by Confederation Of Tesdai.
You know, it's people like you that make people so angry. Get out of here beatch.
Atkemri, Liberum Imperium, Araluen Ranger Corps
Why are you still meddling our region's affairs? If you want to make a positive contribution to healthy discussion, then you are more than welcome to do so. I am not questioning the validity of the points that you make, I am questioning your etiquette in doing so.
Araluen Ranger Corps
Araluen Ranger Corps
(I am using the above quotes as an example only, not "calling anyone out")
Maybe, just maybe, it is possible, that we could all disagree, argue why our own points are better, and all while being, get this, polite. Perhaps it's even a possibility that we could agree to disagree and drop it.
Revolutionary idea, I know.
Bluximburg, Araluen Ranger Corps
He explained he came here because death of his father,you said that was a guilty trip,being in the same situation I know that games and places like this help with the mourning,saying that it is a guilt trip is wrong end of story,I will ignore you unless you say something absolutely abhorrent.
Koriter, Araluen Ranger Corps
Araluen Ranger Corps
Perhaps you should stop commenting on our rmb, and maybe the whole situation would go away.
Unike, Atkemri, Liberum Imperium, Koriter, Modern Israel, Araluen Ranger Corps
Amen to that
Unike, Liberum Imperium, Bluximburg, Koriter, Modern Israel, Araluen Ranger Corps
just leave us alone we are trying to figure stuff out and you are just an embassy
Liberum Imperium, Koriter
Araluen Ranger Corps
What are you questions. Please tell us all of them, and maybe we can answer them (politely) to end this.
Araluen Ranger Corps
get out you are annoying and disturbing the peace of our region "leave now and never come back" Smeagel said to Golem
Bluximburg
The government has already corrected the problem. There is no reason to continue this.
Bluximburg, Araluen Ranger Corps
hello Im new here Araluen Ranger Corps recruited me
Unike, Araluen Ranger Corps
2. Should someone criticize the government again, will it respond in the same way?
Those are the big ones. I'm also interested in knowing if the government will actually eject anyone for violating rules that are not codified anywhere, like double posting or being hostile.
Araluen Ranger Corps
Thats what I've been saying
Welcome we are in the middle of a large scale argument (don't worry this isn't often and was started by someone who isn't in the region)
Liberum Imperium, Araluen Ranger Corps
Wow glad we all understand that I have requested the Embassy shut down and all his quotes suppressed
OOC: Hello Usrd welcome Me and Yaangze are likebots we like everything regardless of content
Usrd
I'd like to think not being hostile was just common etiquette. Guess I was wrong and you have to specifically state not to be a jerk. Torranta has also explained why you shouldn't double post. It makes the RMB look unprofessional and sloppy.
Koriter, Araluen Ranger Corps
I wish Paganism was on that poll tbh
Araluen Ranger Corps
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