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Region: Lands End
Jeez, I really really wish I could run...
Today the board passed a new bylaw for Lands End. The bylaw is displayed for now in this dispatch: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1226926.
Basically, this allows a sitting delegate to run for CEO. Note that we currently have a vacancy at CEO. This should be the new board's first order of business, after elections.
I am running for CLO once again. I have talked in the past about passing this position on to someone else, but I don't have the time to learn a new position, and I feel I'm doing well as CLO.
I hope some new blood steps up and runs for office this election cycle. I fully support the current officers, but I believe new energy can only be a good thing for Lands End. So if you are thinking about running for something, please DO! Even if you don't win, we might reward your willingness to try by appointing you to a tier3 job like ambassador or something in foreign affairs, communications or recruiting.
Step up and be active! (and vote for me next week.)
Legoa, South-Central Rhodesia
Good luck Bury. Any requirements this time around?
Legoa
We need officers on the discord. RMB and telegram is very slow. And everything happening in the AA happens on the discord.
Got it
I am running for the place of CPO, as I believe that I would be able to improve the recruitment potential and the integration of residents. Though I have a little bit of official experience, I feel that I could improve my capabilities greatly. Please vote Deims Kir For CPO! (I am on discord, Sovietman#3693 If anyone needs to contact me regarding this or if I am elected.)
Buryasia, The Democracy Of Red Star, Peacockastan, Notch, Los Cayos
I believe biggest threat to the US is US are selfies.
I, too, believe that the biggest threat to the US is US are selfies.
Buryasia
Everyone, this is your CLO speaking. We are receiving reports that the is US are selfies. That is correct, the is
US are selfies. Shareholders and employees, stay alert for any signs that the is US are selfies near you. Remember: See something, Say something, Selfie nothing.
Reardenland, Legoa, Yawehs Chosen Peoples, Peacockastan, Notch, Deims Kir, Los Cayos
that might be the best post ever.
Legoa
More information on this threat in the AA discord's marketplace: https://discordapp.com/channels/224112450302246922/361060132416913410
I think the the US's biggest threat is it self
Hiya its been a while and I just decided to join the discord. I just read all the rules and not being able to use "lol" is a bit much... I mean I am a furry so I would think that you guys shouldnt take a discord that seriously right? so consider this my final message to Lands end I am sorry I am leaving over something this stupid but I feel as if a region with this much freedom should be more free especially on a website that we use to talk to each other this freely. The discord feels like a dictator ship with the amount of rules and restrictions on the page itself. I only wish that you see what I mean and change the wrongs in said discord I hope you are able to see eye to eye with me.
The leader of a proud and great Island nation, Jay the Leader of The Furry Island
You clearly did not get a good understanding of the rules in the discord server, you are allowed to say "lol" in the server, the rule states that you cannot make fluff posts consisting of just the word "lol". We believe in quality over quantity and those rules are there in order to achieve a level of quality conversation. I also think that it's ridiculous something as simple as that made you leave, but whatever.
Mythel
Which I believe is still a dumb rule! I did get that part and I still find some of the rules on there unrealistic and unpractical! I dont wish to question your authority and make this a big deal which is another reason why I left. I run my own discord that is based on my nation and what rules I have are simple and are realistic. Because they are based around trying not to offend and or harm anyone in anyway and or form... And what I remember most of the region is antifurry which is another reason why I left to a more furry friendly place. Again I am sorry and I wish not to offend or trigger some people just because people who dislike furries are on here and agree with whats on the regions discord... and that is my last goodbye
I honestly don't completely understand what you're talking about but whatever, I don't care enough to argue about it.
Hello! 👋
Buryasia, Legoa, South-Central Rhodesia, Deims Kir
Hello! Welcome to Lands End.
Legoa, Los Cayos, Landofideas
Hi people.
Zalidia was here
Buryasia, South-Central Rhodesia
Welcome!
Notch, Los Cayos
Opens eyes to full extent
Look who's back!
Buryasia, Legoa, Yawehs Chosen Peoples, The Federation Of Spokane, Los Cayos, Landofideas
Hello, I'm back from inactivity.
Buryasia, Yawehs Chosen Peoples
Welcome back Grater! Buryasia, does mean the CEO elections are canceled?
Nope.
Me either in terms of arguing and tbh I have my own reasons to leave and thats that
I am back online y'all. Remember, the board members you select (CLO, CPO, CTO, and COO) will choose a CEO after the election.
@ Furry Island - Wish you well, your opinions about the discord are duly noted, let's not belabor the point.
No, LE bylaws require that I be a shareholder to run for CEO, and to be a shareholder I need WA.
I am a citizen of TNP now and a member of the North Pacific Army which requires that I have a free WA. So I cant run for CEO. I whole heartedly encourage everyone in the region to run for some aspect of government though.
Bonnie Blue Republic, Buryasia, Legoa
Election telegrams have been sent out.
All shareholders should have recieved one.
If you are a shareholder and you didn't get one, contact me.
Thank you.
Legoa, South-Central Rhodesia, Vistryara
So..
Wat dis region all about
Legoa
Welcome! We're a community that wants to scale back the WA. And we're part of the Augustin Alliance. And we have our discord; you are welcome to check it out. https://discordapp.com/invite/rNY5vcJ
The Democracy Of Red Star, Legoa, Deims Kir
In that case, why do you require WA membership for shareholder status? Because wouldnt that increase it? I mean no disrespect, I was wondering. Happy 4th!
Edit: What happens if a shareholder decides not to vote?
Reardenland
To answer your first question, WA status is required to vote for proposals and to gain more power for the region. As for your second question, nothing happens.
Also, happy 4th to everyone!
Thank you Peacockastan, proud to have worked with you.
concerning the poll, what do you all think about i.s.a (income sharing agreements)?
also, why is it that people feel uncomfortable with the nazi swastika on flags but seem to be ok with the hammer and sickle. both are symbols of genocidal totalitarian socialist regimes. there isn't a significant difference between them in effect or ideology.
Legoa
There is a massive difference in ideology. You can certainly make the comparison in the effects, but which genocide exactly are you accusing Soviet Russia of? Massive numbers of dead, sure, but genocide? I'm not sure about that. I guess some people claim the Holodomyr as evidence of a genocide against the Ukrainians, but whether or not you use the word genocide, it just isn't on the same level as Nazi exterminations designed to purify the "Aryan Race" and create Lebensraum or "living space" for that race. Sure, if your family was targeted by the Soviets it was just as horrible as those targeted in the Holocaust; I'm not trying to compare pain to say theirs was less and theirs was more. Just saying the Holocaust was a completely different thing than anything the Russians did.
And the biggest difference in the ideologies, other than being on the complete opposite sides of the political spectrum, would be that the Nazi ideology was built on a claim of racial superiority, while the Soviet ideology was built on a claim of a worldwide solidarity of workers. Again, the effects were similar, although the millions of people who died under Stalin were targeted for different reasons. The ideologies were not at all similar.
It just looks like another option -- consumers can take it or leave it, so I see nothing wrong with that. I wonder what happens if you are unemployed for an extended period. If you spent 6 mos with no job, do they count their percent as $0, or do they add 6 months on to the end of the term you are paying for?
it would depend on the specific i.s.a contract i suppose. so far as i have understood them they have asked for a percentage of only the 3 (+/-) years income immediately following graduation. in that case if the student isn't able to attain employment or is not able to attain a high wage then the school loses.
i thought that this would be a great way to hold schools accountable for their programs and costs.
[list]*schools would not force students to take courses that are not beneficial in the job market (it would be a waste the school's money)
*schools would not offer programs with i.s.a to students that don't have a reasonable chance of gainful employment opportunity in that field (bye bye gender study degrees)
*school "tuition" would be directly tied to the job market (no more arbitrary inflation of tuition)
*if i.s.a were universal and the only option, schools would feel pressure to decrease costs of infrastructure et al instead of continually building new empty buildings
*students wouldn't be saddled with life long debt for an education that may not have even helped them (my sister is on that list, she got a 4 year in international business finance and couldn't find a job so she is a trucker now)[/list]
Hi y'all. Sometimes I forget I exist, sorry.
Saying Nazis are socialists is like saying North Korea is a Democracy because they say so. The Nazis called themselves socialism because they wanted to steal from the German Left in elections. As soon as the Nazis rose to power they killed and expelled the socialists in their party. Socialists were the first enemies of the Nazi German state.
Also, Nazi iconography has been appropriated by modern movements by people who explicitly want to deny the rights of people who still exist: Jews, black people, LGBT people, etc. Meanwhile, the Hammer and Sickle aren't used to marginalize or threaten people today, even if countries who had the symbol on their flags did end up killing massive amounts of people through genocide, negligence, and poor economics. Hell, I think modern Marxists lean libertarian anyway, and prefer the red-and-black flag to the Hammer and Sickle
Buryasia, Los Cayos
I agree, I think pretty much most modern Marxists have started to completely abandon the Soviet communist philosophy and imagery.
name a definitively socialist trait that nazis didn't embrace?
the nazis didn't like russian communists for minor differences, mostly concerning race and nationalism. even so, the russian communists weren't exactly jew embracing and as far as homosexuality, stalin made it a crime punishable by five years of hard labor. in the end, the communists were arguably as nationalistic as the nazis. the death toll in the pursuit of "true communism" is beyond sickening, the flag that represents communism, that dammned hammer and sickle, should give every person who sees it chills of disgust and evil as much as the swastica if not more so.
The Nazis did not take possession of the means of production in the name of workers.
Not the same as the Holocaust.
As opposed to the flags of the US or UK, which are not at all associated with massive death tolls in the pursuit of Manifest Destiny or White Man's Burden or whatever flimsy justification all powerful nations every used to explain why they did whatever they wanted to do?
I soooo wish I could abuse my old powers and supress this post. The manifest destiny was a dark period of US History but does that one dark spot charecterise the entrity of the US and our history? of course not. However both Nazi Germany and the USSR are synomonous with attrocites becuase they did not just commit one becuase of a flawed ideal, they where nations built on hate and motivation to cleanse those who disagreed with there governments. So while I get that people say that Nazi germany could be worse saying that the US is like either is not only false but part of a concerted effort by certain countries to diminish the west in the eyes of allies from Africa, Asia, and the middle east.
(Forgive the syntax errors I am on mobile.)
Reardenland, Legoa
Good, I like a good debate!
Ok, you actually make a really great argument here, and I definitely agree that the Nazis are inseparable from hate and genocide while the US obviously has 343 years of all kinds of history, good and bad. So I agree that my statement about the US flag in the context of the Nazi flag looks a bit foolish after your reply. However, I think this supports my main point that the Soviet flag also doesn't have the same automatic revulsion that the swastika has. The Soviet Union existed for, what, 70 years? They put the first man in space. Stalinism was uniquely horrible, but Lenin agreed to an early peace during WWI. There's just a lot more there to remember than just atrocity, in my opinion.
Reardenland
in the name of the workers, no, but in the name of the state war effort. the nazis essentially absorbed the means of production by forcing the producers into government as leaders and squashing businesses that were not supportive of the war effort. two different strategies with exactly the same result.
https://mises.org/library/why-nazism-was-socialism-and-why-socialism-totalitarian
Hey everyone, I'd just like to say that our shareholder registry has now been fully updated, so if you are a shareholder then you should see your nation listed on this dispatch: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1231314
If you want to become a shareholder but are unsure of how to register as one then please visit the dispatch linked above and you will see a link bringing you to the instructions.
Also, if you haven't noticed yet, there is a new addition to the WFE. We now have a forums page, all are encouraged to drop by and look around.
Bonnie Blue Republic, Buryasia, Tri-Galleon Yudobya, Yawehs Chosen Peoples, South-Central Rhodesia, Los Cayos
Tbh, socialism is quite broad. The original socialism is to seize and distribute the wealth. But nowadays, socialism can be defined in many different ways.
It's true that the Nazis were mainly fascist and had far right ideologies but they kinda did have a lot of control over the economy. Eg, they removed some of the business owners not in favour of them like Hugo Junkers. Junkers was the company that made the Stukas.
Reardenland, Voivodato Di Uyutta
Hello
Legoa, South-Central Rhodesia, Landofideas
Hi there! :) hows everything?
Legoa, Landofideas
Good.
I'm suprised my account isn't already cancelled xD
Buryasia, Legoa, Landofideas
Hello!
It seems that this region is not that active :/
Voivodato Di Uyutta
It is better on the discord. Try joining on the listed invite link... :-)
Buryasia, Yawehs Chosen Peoples, Landofideas
What activity were you expecting exactly?
Buryasia, Legoa, Deims Kir, Landofideas
We do stuff. It's a great place to be if you're a capitalist/libertarian or RP a nation as such
Legoa
We have a booming discord server with nearly 500 members, a military, plenty of debates on the RMB and on the discord, and an extremely unique government structure. If it seems like this region isn't active enough, it's because you might not be looking in the right place! :)
Bonnie Blue Republic, Legoa, Landofideas
Ok, I joined the discord
Legoa
Post self-deleted by The Federation Of Spokane.
Greetings, folks.
The July Board Elections are over, and I would like to be the first to congratulate the new board members:
Yawehs Chosen Peoples as Chief Trade Officer
Deims Kir as Chief Personnel Officer
Buryasia as Chief Legal Officer.
and
Peacockastan as Chief Operating Officer.
CEO elections are rolling as we speak.
Congrats, folks.
Buryasia, Yawehs Chosen Peoples, Peacockastan, Notch, Los Cayos
Hello.
South-Central Rhodesia
Hey there, welcome to the region!
I'm a moderator, I'll help you in the discord.
Vistryara
For an RP should we use discord or the new forums. Im leaning toward discord but not everyone has it so.
I vote forums
The way Im working on it is participants will be given characters at random and then the scenario will create the conflict and basis of the rp. If we go discord the only rules will be the rules of the discord.
Vistryara
Announcement: Hey everyone, as a lot of you may know, the board entered a closed CEO ballot immediately after the board elections in order to address the vacancy of the position. I am now pleased to announce that the board has unanimously elected [nation=noflag]Bonnie Blue Republic[/nation] as the Chief Executive Officer. Congrats to BBR and all of the board members and thank you all for participating in this election cycle!
Additional Announcement: This is going to sound very vague but I don't want to give anything away, Friday, July 12, Something is coming... See y'all tomorrow!
Bonnie Blue Republic, Legoa, Yawehs Chosen Peoples, Deims Kir, Landofideas
Wait what
Legoa
harry potter theme plays in the background
Legoa, South-Central Rhodesia, Vistryara, Landofideas
Im excited and ready.... in other news if you plan on being in here the lands end RP telegram me and Ill let you know some details. Hopefully Ill have it launched some time in the next few weeks.
Legoa
Peacockistan just said theres a surprise tomorrow and I told people who are interested in LE RP to telegram me so I can get a number
Very excited for this........
Legoa, South-Central Rhodesia, Landofideas
I agree...! Already pouring the cocktails... :)
Legoa, Yawehs Chosen Peoples, Deims Kir, Vistryara, Landofideas
It is time.
Legoa, Yawehs Chosen Peoples, Peacockastan, Landofideas
Let us just say it is an Extremely special occasion that is coming up...
South-Central Rhodesia
All hail the glorious revolution my Comrades! The means of production has been seized from the corrupt bourgeoisie!
Los Cayos, Landofideas
Congratulations, comrades, on finally throwing off the yoke of capitalist oppression!
Peacockastan, Los Cayos, Landofideas
Long live the revolution. Long live Lands End.
Los Cayos, Landofideas
We have overthrown the bourgeoisie and the corrupt politicians who care more for the bribes of foreign businessmen than they do the cries of their people! Join me, comrades, in a new and brighter future for Los Cayos! Hear me workers of the world: overthrow your oppressors and join us in this socialist paradise! ¡Viva la revolución!
Peacockastan, Landofideas
Proletariat of the world, unite!
Independland
¡Trabajadores del mundo, únanse!
Peacockastan
My comrades, overthrow your oppressors! Let your streets flow with the blood of the corrupt bourgeoisie!
Independland
Raws of armed proletarians, which are full of anger on the corrupted Bourgeoisie, now marching on the streets, while The Internationale is playing on the background.
Peacockastan, Los Cayos, Landofideas
Karl Marx = A #1 double-plus-good for you and me comrades!
Los Cayos, Independland
This survey is anonymous and is the official question on the RP. Everyone in the region who's on discord should take the survey. The survey asks whether or not you are doing the RP. It'll will give me a head count.
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/V8QZPYF
Capitalists are doubleplusungood
Peacockastan, Independland, Landofideas
I just removed socialism. Feels good to go back to capitalism. Better dead than red.
Hail all of us Komerades, today is a good day.
Peacockastan, Deims Kir, Los Cayos
I'm truly sorry to hear that the corrupt bourgeoisie capitalist oppressors have overtaken your country. Don't you worry though, the glorious revolution shall free all and seize the means of production!
Buryasia, Los Cayos, Landofideas
Anyone like my name change?
It's nice but it suffers from RAS Syndrome so remove the "Soviet" part and you're fine
Peacockastan
Got it, thanks.
Los Cayos
Now let us celebrate our triumph over our oppressors!
Peacockastan, Landofideas
Definitely!
Heil Stalin
Edit: I should be able to overhaul my flag tomorrow
Peacockastan
DO the SURVEY COMRADES.... OR THE CAPITALIST PIGS WILL GET YOU.... HEIL STALIN LET THE REVOLUTION REIGN
I accidentally turned my lush tropical forest country into a desert.
Buryasia, Los Cayos
It be like that sometimes
Buryasia, Peacockastan, South-Central Rhodesia
Sorry to hear that, comrade.
Buryasia, The Federation Of Spokane, Los Cayos
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