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Region: Lands End
Yeah. Oh and a heads up interegional wise, all questions will be going to Grater for the next 2 weeks as a event has happened and I wont be on as much. Ill try to get on when I can, but its looking like it wont be very often
Bluximburg
Really makes me wonder how stalking is possible on NS.
Deadly Night Shade
None really, I'm in a few discords but I'm very new to NS and more of the shy and private kind. I don't usually do much OOC talk.
Deadly Night Shade
It usually starts on off-site forums and then bleeds into the game. The NS Mods are good at handing out DOS's to stalkers, but a lot depends on the Mods and Admins on the off-sites. The main problem with the off-sites is that most prohibit proxy servers and hence, your IP Addie is exposed to anyone who has Admin or Mod permissions for the off-site.
As Discord is relatively new, and due to my previously mentioned access problems with it, I have no direct knowledge of it or its mechanics. I assume that one's IP Addie can be found there also. Its not rocket science to trace an IP Addie to an address.
BTW, I base these observations on 16 years of NS experience.
Extinctionism
Hey Everyone:
I need a new ambassador, Reformed quit his Job sadly.
Fill out this application and send it to me if you want to be a highly honored discord and embassay searcher helper.
Nation Name:
WA status:
AA status:
One reason why I should be a ambassador:
Notes:
I just sold a trading card for over 13, is that good?
Legoa, Extinctionism, Iwagoto
very good
I only got 10 for a legendary. :(
Like 0.13? It depends. For grey (common) it's awesome, for a green (uncommon) card it's good. For a blue (rare) it's okay, for anything else it's very little. If you mean 13.0, then congratulations, you scored!
My first job for all of you: I need you to make tanks and airships that are the size of Star destroyers and send them to me
Iwagoto
Being ambassador was the first position I had before moving up the ranks of LE. It is a great way to gain experience. It is not a difficult job. The Federation Of Spokane, if no one fills the spot, I will step in to help out.
Beyo
Thank you.
Guys, any tips to reduce primitiveness? So far, I only found that protectionist options increase it and vice versa.
Scientific advancement and primitiveness usually move when the other moves. Religion also increases primitiveness sometimes.
Cairacos
Yeah, the NS nation stats are very tricky and confusing at times. I honestly don't think anyone knows how they truly work.
Cairacos
One could say it's quite like Numberwang.
Hello everyone,
Who would like constructing embassies with my region The Crimson Axis Hq, you have been worthy allies to our cause
Remember, NS was created by Max Barry to promote his book Jennifer Government. The same twisted logic that was evident in the book is evident here. ^_^
Quick heads up, youre supposed to TG me about having embassies with our region.
I have not had a chance to introduce myself so hi! I am glad we have a veteran NSer in here, and I hope you enjoy the region.
Deadly Night Shade, Buryasia, Bluximburg, Legoa, Peacockastan, South-Central Rhodesia
Thank you for your warm welcome. I would be happy to share my game experience with the members of Lands End. If anyone has a question, please feel free to ask.
Buryasia, Bluximburg, The Cincinnatus Republic, Legoa, South-Central Rhodesia
If you have a clear vision for your nation, I found this to be reliable http://www.mwq.dds.nl/ns/results/ It has the effects of every answer for most issues.
Deadly Night Shade, Bluximburg
Thanks
A wonderful guide to the Dilemmas. Do you know who created it?
Tri-Galleon Yudobya, Adamgama, Ballpit12, Deims Kir
I found it with google, but there is a thread about it apparently: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=440593
Thank you for that link. I followed it and noted that the code and results were developed by Trotterdam of Pony Lands fame.
A perfect world doesn't exic.....*Communism gets no votes in poll*
Regulated capitalism is the best system we have so far. Capitalism in its pure form does not work.
Deadly Night Shade, Vistryara
Oh? How so?
Deadly Night Shade, Cairacos
Well ya see, there gots to be someone there to make sure everyone's doing it legally and fairly. Evenin'. I'm the leader of Hickerbilly, for all y'all's information. I just joined this region.
Deadly Night Shade, Beyo
Deadly Night Shade, Bluximburg, Legoa
Post by The Americanempire suppressed by Bluximburg.
Post by The Americanempire suppressed by Bluximburg.
Welcome
Please do not double / triple post. Use edit button.
Deadly Night Shade, Peacockastan, The Americanempire
It is because of government that big businesses rule and monopolies are possible, don't blame the market. No monopoly ever came about in a purely voluntary, contract-based society. All monopolies that have ever and will ever exist are founded on coercion either in the form of state intervention, where the state may set themselves up or license others as the monopoly suppliers of essential services or else violent action to keep competitors out of the market. Also, there are all of the expensive regulations and policies placed by the federal government that severely handicap small businesses who can't afford to have all of this regulation that has been placed on this far from free market. Government taxes and regulations are effective means of limiting competition in an industry. Large companies can afford the costs of complying with government regulations, costs which cripple their smaller competitors.
Also when state regulation is out of the picture, monopolies are far from common. If a company exists then they must compete with another by providing lower prices. It is unlikely that they will remain efficient and affordable under a monopoly, which absolutely allows new companies to start up.
Deadly Night Shade
Also, look at my nation, I am actually trying to govern and make decisions on my personal political views (I find it fun). My economy is doing great and there is quite a bit of regulation.
Also I do understand that this is a game and things don't always work out the way we want. Yet this is the closest thing to a simulation of it i see.
Deadly Night Shade
Welcome to Land's End
Deadly Night Shade
Peacockastan, The Americanempire, my favorite quotation from the film "One, Two, Three" is spoken by Otto Ludwig Piffl, and it goes... "Capitalism is like a dead herring in the moonlight. I shines, but it still stinks."
The Americanempire
Listen,
I have just sent a embassy request to you, just to point out
Next, I request that I need bombs. The best kind you got. The ones that could blow up a courthouse, not to be too specific
Your help would be appreciated
Even though big companies with an almost absolute control on an industry can make their prices whatever they want them to be, there will always be competition and when there is competition, as you said, these big corporations keep their prices low to drive these businesses low. But all of that just goes to show how a free market without regulation will keep prices low as long as there is competition. It's impossible to keep prices absurdly high as long as there is competition. In the end, these regulations will continue to hinder small business, an example of this is the Dodd-Frank legislation, which has strengthened large financial intuitions while harming their weaker competitors.
Blame government for monopolies, not the market.
Cairacos
Once again, IR, no regulations and Carnegie, Rockefeller, and Vanderbilt all had huge monopolies in their industry making it so that there was literally no competition and once there was a little competition they would lower their prices super low and then get rid of the competition and raise their prices again, hurting the average consumer. The small businesses would be crushed, which is my main point, and the consumers would end up spending much more once a monopoly was established. Thus the 100% free market made these monopolies because during the IR there was NO REGULATION, then once there was, prices started to drop and there was more competition once trusts were broken up. This is what led to the "Roaring Twenties" were consumerism was great, economy was great, and regulation was introduced a few decades before the 20s. This is because it takes some time for economic policy to show up in the economy.
Also give an example of a country or place where no regulation has led to low prices, good working conditions/pay for the laborers, good for consumers, and where the rate of poverty is low and where entrepreneurship is relatively prevalent.
Another thing, eventually, the little guys will see the big businesses with a large portion of the market and decide to not even try to start a business or compete with them. Killing off entrepreneurs and the ambitions they have, as well as stopping innovation because the little guys who have huge ideas can't compete if the larger company simply says it's false. Even if they have all the proof to attribute, most people will simply agree because they trust the larger company that has been around longer and has been in that business for a longer period of time.
In the end human nature is largely greed, people at the top wouldn't care about the people on the bottom, this is true throughout ALL of history. That is true to this day, most companies only care about the bottom line and nothing about their workers or the consumers (yes i understand they need to make a profit, but that doesn't mean they should be excused from human decency). All companies care about, for the most part, is that consumers have an ok view of them and are willing to pay.
I am also a large believer that capitalism is the best economic philosophy, but it must be kept in check.
Hey guys, The Reddington States of Redlandia here. Thanks for starting an embassy with us. Here's to a friendship between the two regions!
Peacockastan, The Americanempire
While some monopolies have been created in the past due to some lack of regulation, deregulation has also stopped some monopolies like the deregulation of AT&T, which previously functioned as a regulated national monopoly, in the 1980s provided consumers with more competitive telephone rates. Also, the deregulation of U.S. airlines in 1979 provided consumers with more choice and lower air fares. The deregulation of trucking companies and railroads also increased competition and lowered prices.
While both sides have their ups and downs, I'm still willing to believe that an absolute free-market is the way to go. And as for the nation you asked about, Hong Kong is the nation with the most economic freedom in the world, so I would like at that, however, I'm not sure about working conditions and all of that over there.
Hello! I'm really glad that we can start building some relations between our regions and I'm really excited about our new embassy!
Fort Eastland, Cairacos
Hong Kong has 1.37 Million/7 Million living in poverty. The people work an average of 71 hours per week, along with children working in factories (minimum age is 13). Average pay in Hong Kong is around $24,000 in USD a YEAR. The kids have a max of 48 hrs a week.
People are not doing great there in other words.
The AmericanempireGood post in my opinion. Responding to:
Smart regulations would be much shorter than existing regulations in the many jurisdictions worldwide but would have specific, enforceable "teeth." Sound legal management of corporations to harness their power as an engine of economy should function like a "code of conduct" that ensures companies make money best when they support or contribute to social good. Corporations will always do what makes them the most money, and in an unregulated free market this can create many problems -- it is the job of government IMHO to set rules that align money making with good policy. Note that an educated, involved populace is required to set and maintain regulations to harness the power of corporations for good. The government can only do as good a job as the people who elect them.
The Americanempire
Buryasia
IMMM BAAACK!
Buryasia, Peacockastan, South-Central Rhodesia, Cairacos, Beyo
Yay! Welcome Back!
Buryasia, South-Central Rhodesia, The Americanempire, Beyo
Thank you!
South-Central Rhodesia, The Americanempire
Nice to see that you're back!
Cairacos, Beyo
Buryasia, Free Southern Republics, The Americanempire
I am delighted to see increased activity and recruitment. Well done to all!
Buryasia, Legoa, Extinctionism, Peacockastan, South-Central Rhodesia, Vistryara, Beyo, Anarchic States Of Afghanistan
Chapter 1 of the Augustin Alliance Novel has been released!!!
Read it here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1162242
Atkemri, Buryasia, Legoa, Peacockastan, Deims Kir, Beyo, Anarchic States Of Afghanistan
Hello. I'm President Angelica Hampton, the leader of the United States of Porrerea. Thank you for the invitation to this pleasant alliance.
Buryasia, Bluximburg, South-Central Rhodesia, Beyo, Anarchic States Of Afghanistan
Welcome!
I'm going to try to be a little less obsessive over the cards, now that I finally got the Testlandia I've been wanting!
Grennick Gold, Adamgama, Beyo
Take this poll:
https://goo.gl/forms/OxDEwZYc9u4Z4qIK2
Peacockastan, Cairacos
waagwan...
Do you wanna introduce yourself?
Should I know what this means? If the answer is no, then this is not a very useful post. If the answer is yes, I guess I missed the reference.
The Nexus Republic
It has been several weeks since Mer Ruback was last reported to be working. For the time being, the unnamed secretary of state has taken over administration duties. Meanwhile, Mer Ruback personally paid to stay in a hotel near a hospital within the town limits of Yves Saint Laurent. Julian Sroczynski, who lied in an emergency room after dealing with bullets in both the ribcage and his left shoulder, had to undergo critical surgery. Ruback's suggestion would have been to provide Sroczynski a metal ribcage, and a newly synthetic arm, but she realized that she was in Ulrech and not in Charleotopia, and that Ender Finnegan's resurrection (as well as her's) was no doubt a sheer miracle.
Ulrechian authorities informed the Nexus Republic that the assassin has finally been captured. The assassin was not identified as a Tsqal, but a Scottist. The Scottist gunman confessed that he was aiming for Mer Ruback instead of Julian Sroczynski, claiming that Sroczynski's leadership would put the Nexus in heavy disarray. He provided no grounds for such a claim, but nevertheless the claim was made. His sentence has yet to be announced to all, let alone announced by High King Aldus.
Mer Ruback responded to the discovery by admitting that she was shocked that the killer was not a Tsqal. The arms deal had nothing to do with the Scottists and everything to do with dissociating with the Tsqal mercenaries, who have been recently hired to bomb major cities in developed countries. However, she hopes for Ulrech to figure out the hitman's motives, and why they attempted to assassinate her. Any government involvement in the assassination, Ruback stated, would be strongly dealt with by the Nexus government.
Either tonight or tomorrow, according to the Ulrech Times, Mer Ruback will visit Julian Sroczynski for the last time. By then, the surgery would have been done.
Uh wrong RMB mate, this is Lands End, not Redlandia
Legoa, Fort Eastland, Extinctionism, Cyanation, Peacockastan, South-Central Rhodesia, Free Southern Republics
Our nation now has an elected leader: Anaz uc-Safar!
May he end suffering quickly.
(OOC: Finally unlocked the leader setting :D)
Peacockastan
Extinctionism
Just joined the region
Buryasia, Bluximburg, Peacockastan, Cairacos, Beyo
Welcome to Lands End! If you have any questions, don't be afraid to ask.
Cairacos
Thank you Peacockastan for the warm welcome.
Do you know of an updated list of the officials the ones on the dispatch I think aren't right?
Peacockastan, Cairacos, Beyo
This is the one that is the most current: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1094039
The one that is in the Information Center is out of date by quite a while and we are currently working on updating everything.
Buryasia, Cairacos
Thank you Peacockastan
Peacockastan, Cairacos
No problem.
Cairacos
Right...It was a joke. Waagwan is a colloquial term for hello in the UK so yea. Anyways, we are Alanikka a Right Wing-Frivolous island nation. I am new to the region but not new to nationstates with nations such as Saint Agnesia getting fairly big and Qingland being spokesmen of the Ethreal Isles and leader of the conservative party.
-Cheers
Bluximburg, Legoa, Extinctionism, Peacockastan, Beyo
Okay, so despite my sarcasm I learned something ; ) Thank you for the explanation. If I ever manage to visit the UK, to see my favourite (see what I did there?) team, Hull City, I will be slightly less lost for your help!
edit: And welcome to the region. We are especially happy to have another experienced NSer in Lands End.
Peacockastan, Beyo
Once again, I need a ambassador for discord.
Name:
WA status:
AA status:
JTF status:
Why I should be a ambassador:
Send that to me.
(My reasoning for the AA and JTF status is to ensure my ambassador will be free when I need them.)
Buryasia, Yawehs Chosen Peoples, Peacockastan
Thanks...btw Birmingham City are better...just saying
Make sure to endorse our delegate Bluximburg as well as your fellow employees!
Bluximburg, Legoa, Cyanation, Peacockastan, South-Central Rhodesia, Deims Kir, The Americanempire, Beyo, Anarchic States Of Afghanistan, Alanikka, Free Republic Of Verdania, Antinme Mey
Finally got the economy to frightening..!
Adamgama, Katz Kingdom A4, Beyo, Alanikka, Antinme Mey
Fantastic news! Cheers to that :)
Vistryara
By the way, welcome! I did not notice you until I checked the population rankings a minute ago. Sixteen years is a long time--I just hit nine, myself, and most people in the AA are younger than three.
Deadly Night Shade, Buryasia, Bluximburg, Legoa, Adamgama, Peacockastan, Deims Kir
Hey broskis, just out of curiosity. I see that we're technically anti-worldassembly etc but like many of us vote anyway. On the current bill, most of us voted yes. Doesn't that go against many of our values? To not allow state sovereignty in deciding their own policies? Sure, many if not most of us are pro gay marriage and pro some of the other issues proposed, but to force other allied nations to do so seems authoritarian etc to me.
Extinctionism, Cyanation, Peacockastan, Free Southern Republics, Beyo, Free Republic Of Verdania
I was thinking about thst myself.
Its Okay Here
I vote against nearly everything, including the current resolution.
Bluximburg, Extinctionism, Peacockastan, Free Southern Republics, Its Okay Here, Alanikka
Its Okay Here, I agree. Obviously we have a lot of new LE residents with new opinions and that is great; you can vote how you want. Here's how I see it - after mandating this and ordering that to all of the sovereign nations across a series of worlds, the bill clarifies that they plan to dictate to religious organizations next. Its well-intentioned over reach. Just because you are 100% sure you are right doesn't mean you should demand everyone across a series of worlds do things your way. It reminds me of the white-man's burden concept. Liberal WA members think it is their burden to civilize the entire, barbaric galaxy of NS.
The Democracy Of Red Star, Extinctionism, Free Southern Republics, Beyo, Its Okay Here
People are bound to simply take a glance at it and say, "Yeah, I agree with that." And then vote for without taking something like NatSov into consideration. Tons of people agree with same-sex marriage and stuff (myself included) but I also believe in NatSov. Our delegate, Bluximburg, will obviously be voting against this proposal since his (and the AA's) policy on GA proposals is as follows: No for proposals, yes for repeals.
Buryasia, The Democracy Of Red Star, Bluximburg, Extinctionism, Cairacos, Its Okay Here
Hi?
Buryasia, Beyo
Hello and welcome!
Cairacos, Beyo
Well, hey Peacockastan how are you? Havent seen you on in a while...
Cairacos
Welcome
I'm doing pretty good, especially since this new influx of nations!
South-Central Rhodesia, Cairacos
hello!
South-Central Rhodesia, Vistryara, Beyo
Hey there!
Cairacos
That good to hear, but until I can satisfy my self of complete anonymity, I will keep myself to the RMB.
Thank you for your warm welcome. This is not my largest nation, by far. I have a couple in the 30's, of which the largest is around 1000th in size in the largest populations in the NS world. The AA, huh. I remember back when the AA was the Atlantic Alliance, a defender coalition.
Extinctionism, Beyo
I was vaguely familiar with the ACC when this organization got started a couple years ago, but had not heard the initialism "AA" used to describe them until recently. Hard to find a totally original set of initials after this many years. Ah well--we might have outlived them at this point. How long were they around, 2006? 2005?
Deadly Night Shade, Extinctionism
At the discretion of The Federation Of Spokane I am pleased to say he choose me as his new ambassador
thank you
Deadly Night Shade, Buryasia, Bluximburg, Peacockastan, South-Central Rhodesia, Vistryara
Thank you, I will. ^_^
I remember the Atlantic Alliance from when I started playing in '03. Unfortunately, I don't remember it's membership as I wasn't a participant in that form of game play. There were also the ADN, the EAA, and the DC from that era.
Legoa
Youre welcome!
Deadly Night Shade, Yawehs Chosen Peoples, South-Central Rhodesia, Vistryara
A good policy, and the reason Bluximburg keeps my endorsement
Deadly Night Shade, Bluximburg, Legoa, Tri-Galleon Yudobya, Peacockastan, South-Central Rhodesia, Antinme Mey
Yes I will.
Thank you for your continued trust and support.
Deadly Night Shade, Buryasia, Legoa, Cyanation, Peacockastan, Ballpit12, Free Southern Republics
What's NatSov. Also the only issue I see with the proposal is the 4th MANDATE, that says the government must address them as their gender. Because, in medical cases, the sex you were born as determined how they go about surgery (think the drugs they can take and how much, along with how much testosterone or estrogen the body produces and how that can affect surgery and how they go about it)
Cyanation, Peacockastan
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