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Torranta wrote:Any rules on what to name it? Does it matter?

There are no rules other than not being offensive.

Torranta wrote:Any rules on what to name it? Does it matter?

Something emphasizing the LE connection, maybe.

Unike wrote:There are no rules other than not being offensive.

Bonnie Blue Republic wrote:Something emphasizing the LE connection, maybe.

OK, I founded the region, The Breakroom to serve as just that. A break room for all employees of Lands End. This will serve as the RP region for Lands End. Anyone who wishes to join please avoid using your main nation, but instead make a puppet. Once an embassy is established with The Breakroom, you won't have to move here anyway, but just use embassy posting. I am Xanadria

Nordhpadhan, Okla-Texas

Torranta thank you for your willingness in adding another region (which you founded). I saw your telegrams and would have accepted the request anyway.

I plan on participating in this RP but I have never done one before. The last region I was in was never very active. As a result I mostly kept to myself so I don't know the full extent of the possibilities in nation states. You guys may have to guide me through it to start off. It also doesn't help that my nation is relatively young.

-New Mi Ogden

New Mi Ogden wrote:I plan on participating in this RP but I have never done one before. The last region I was in was never very active. As a result I mostly kept to myself so I don't know the full extent of the possibilities in nation states. You guys may have to guide me through it to start off. It also doesn't help that my nation is relatively young.

-New Mi Ogden

We're going to try and keep it casual. We won't be too hard on etiquette, since no one in Lands End has much experience with RP either.

Okla-Texas wrote:Torranta thank you for your willingness in adding another region (which you founded). I saw your telegrams and would have accepted the request anyway.

I figured that since it takes a few days for embassies to build, I should just accept it myself and hurry the process up. I'm sorry if it seemed rushed. This is part of why I wanted to be Delegate: so I could have more time to work on side projects like this.

Bonnie Blue Republic, Okla-Texas

That sounds good. Thanks

-New Mi Ogden

New Mi Ogden wrote:That sounds good. Thanks

-New Mi Ogden

You don't need to put "New Mi Ogden" at the end of everything...

It honestly looks kinda pretentious. IMO, anyway.

Torranta Moonshiners just arrived in The Breakroom. I don't suppose we could invent a role for me?

Ya your right. I will keep that in mind. Sorry guys. Thank you for letting me know.

Post by New Mi Ogden suppressed by Bonnie Blue Republic.

New Mi Ogden

Also, I created another nation and I am destefaria in the new region by the way.

New Mi Ogden wrote:Also, I created another nation and I am destefaria in the new region by the way.

Please do not double post.

See, USA seems like the logical choice because "Oh, hey, we've been to the moon! Now let's go to Mars!", but NASA is critically underfunded. Granted, we might have a better space program than other countries, but space isn't important as, say, a War on Terror, or stopping drug cartels. America has always had a pro-military policy, born out of the fear of invasion by Britain. Don't get me wrong, America is great for us to invest in, but if we dive deeper than,"NASA went to the moon, they obviously will get to Mars first!", other countries could surpass us in space exploration. And that's why I chose China, cuz' why not?

Unike, Koriter

Concerning the poll, I'm assuming that private space exploration companies based in those countries would count as that country reaching Mars first, i.e. if SpaceX reaches Mars first than it would count as the USA reaching Mars, because SpaceX is based in the USA. Or does this poll only concern public, government run space agencies like NASA?

Some Random Lands, The Cincinnatus Republic

Capitalist Slime wrote:but space isn't important as, say, a War on Terror, or stopping drug cartels.

I'm not sure about those drug cartels.

The American Imperialists wrote:Having complete neutrality in your foreign policy is still not a very good idea in my opinion. If there are for example, pro democracy rebels who are fighting a totalitarian dictatorship in a foreign nation, I think that it is America's duty as the sole superpower of the world to at the very least show support and sympathy for the pro democracy rebels, and if need be, use our military to aid them

Non-interventionism does not mean a country can't still send aid to those in need or those aligned with them morally or financially (as seen with Taft and Wilson before WWI), it's more about the safeguarding of a nation from home rather than sending troops abroad.

Response to Cizicus: Switzerland may not be in an organization like NATO, but it is in the UN, although just recently (2002). My whole argument was not to be applied in modern terms, I stated in a previous post that a non-interventionist policy would've been much more effective in the earlier stages of the U.S. as a nation, having little international recognition and therefore little authority on foreign affairs. This is my last post on this topic, Bonnie seems to find this a little out of place for the RMB.

Nordhpadhan, Some Random Lands

I am going with Russia, I simply believe that they may do it first, USA may have gotten to the moon first, but as mentioned before, they are under-funded, and Russia had the best space program prior to USA, and USA has not made any more attempts to reach other planets since the moon landing.

Unike

Rone Jerro wrote:I am going with Russia, I simply believe that they may do it first, USA may have gotten to the moon first, but as mentioned before, they are under-funded, and Russia had the best space program prior to USA, and USA has not made any more attempts to reach other planets since the moon landing.

We plan to make it there by 2030.

Post self-deleted by The Democracy Of Red Star.

The Democracy Of Red Star wrote:Umm when are we making an military Region?

When did literally anyone with any kind of authority over that say that we were going to make a military region or military of any kind?

No well I wondered (please don’t ban me)

Clarkentrent

No, we are not installing a military on Lands End. The topic is still being discussed between the members of the region.

The Democracy Of Red Star, Some Random Lands

The United Banking Associaton wrote:No, we are not installing a military on Lands End. The topic is still being discussed between the members of the region.

Since when?

The Democracy Of Red Star

Cizicus wrote:Concerning the poll, I'm assuming that private space exploration companies based in those countries would count as that country reaching Mars first, i.e. if SpaceX reaches Mars first than it would count as the USA reaching Mars, because SpaceX is based in the USA. Or does this poll only concern public, government run space agencies like NASA?

Counting companies as well as government space agencies.

The Democracy Of Red Star, Some Random Lands

Unike wrote:Counting companies as well as government space agencies.

Okay, thanks for the clarification.

Unike, The Democracy Of Red Star

Capitalist Slime wrote:See, USA seems like the logical choice because "Oh, hey, we've been to the moon! Now let's go to Mars!", but NASA is critically underfunded. Granted, we might have a better space program than other countries, but space isn't important as, say, a War on Terror, or stopping drug cartels. America has always had a pro-military policy, born out of the fear of invasion by Britain. Don't get me wrong, America is great for us to invest in, but if we dive deeper than,"NASA went to the moon, they obviously will get to Mars first!", other countries could surpass us in space exploration. And that's why I chose China, cuz' why not?

The USA has a less funded public space agency.

However, the US also has the leaders in private space travel.

Elon Musk has stated that Mars is his goal; SpaceX has been working on Mars base designs since late 2015.

That's why I said America.

The Democracy Of Red Star, Some Random Lands

The Cincinnatus Republic wrote:Non-interventionism does not mean a country can't still send aid to those in need or those aligned with them morally or financially (as seen with Taft and Wilson before WWI), it's more about the safeguarding of a nation from home rather than sending troops abroad.

Response to Cizicus: Switzerland may not be in an organization like NATO, but it is in the UN, although just recently (2002). My whole argument was not to be applied in modern terms, I stated in a previous post that a non-interventionist policy would've been much more effective in the earlier stages of the U.S. as a nation, having little international recognition and therefore little authority on foreign affairs. This is my last post on this topic, Bonnie seems to find this a little out of place for the RMB.

But you can do both, why should a nation like America pull our troops from all of the nations that we are currently protecting? We can and are protecting the nation. Sending our troops abroad does not mean our security is threatened, it could even mean the opposite

The Democracy Of Red Star, The Cincinnatus Republic

I trust SpaceX more than any other government space agency, including NASA.

The Democracy Of Red Star

I encourage anyone who owns a puppet to move them to The Breakroom to participate in Lands End's RP region.

Unike, Bonnie Blue Republic, The American Imperialists, The Democracy Of Red Star

In terms of:

Private sector: United States

Public sector: Asia (I know that it's a continent)

Unike, The Democracy Of Red Star

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Where Your Deadbeat Dad Lives

So Banking, are you saying you believe an Asian corporation will reach Mars before a U.S.-based corporation? If so, have to say I disagree although it could be interesting premise. But what Asian corporation is currently even in the ball-game?

The United Banking Associaton wrote:In terms of:

Private sector: United States

Public sector: Asia (I know that it's a continent)

Really doubtful on that public sector one, No nation in the world spends more on space than America, and we already have a very well developed program in place

Buryasia wrote: So Banking, are you saying you believe an Asian corporation will reach Mars before a U.S.-based corporation? If so, have to say I disagree although it could be interesting premise. But what Asian corporation is currently even in the ball-game?

No no no no, public sector is the government spending like NASA and private sector is companies like SpaceX.

How do you guys feel about this whole gun control thing?

Some Random Lands wrote:No no no no, public sector is the government spending like NASA and private sector is companies like SpaceX.

How do you guys feel about this whole gun control thing?

What specifically do you mean by gun control

The American Imperialists wrote:What specifically do you mean by gun control

The debate going on about how restricted guns should be, especially after the shooting

Some Random Lands wrote:The debate going on about how restricted guns should be, especially after the shooting

The only gun control measure I've heard that i would consider supporting would be a *temporary* ban on purchasing firearms on a person who has evidence against him proving that he is mentally deranged and is likely to commit a shooting if he bought a gun. I forgot what this was called, but how it works is that a family member or a close friend/acquaintance of that person needs to provide substantial evidence to a judge proving that a person in their family/workplace would be a threat to society if he acquired a firearm, then the judge will rule on whether the person should be *temporarily* banned from purchasing guns or not, and for how long. So far that's the only gun control measure I support. Banning ar15s, bump stocks, raising the gun purchasing age, etc. are all stupid in my opinion. I'll also support allowing teachers and school staff with conceal carry permits to carry on schools, and putting armed security/police in schools

Some Random Lands, The Cincinnatus Republic

Are we still deciding on our Regional Military?

Rone Jerro wrote:Are we still deciding on our Regional Military?

No

Some Random Lands wrote:The debate going on about how restricted guns should be, especially after the shooting

I feel that most people doing the shootings have been mentally ill. America, having very poor mental health treatment, has been powerless to stop them. I think we need to be more on the lookout for people showing signs of mental illness and we need to try and help them as fast as possible. In this age where no one can say anything about another person without crossing a line, we need to take charge and get them help whether they like it or not. And I'm not saying we need asylums or anything, but Mentally ill people often don't want help, and then they go on to do these shootings when we could have helped them. I'm not saying all mentally ill people are shooters, either. I just think the problem is mental illness, not guns. I live in the region of the midwest where everyone has guns. We are a hunting community, and we never once have had a shooting like that. The source of all the mental illness: I think it's phones. Studies have shown the decline in mental health and happiness since 2012, possibly due to the popularization of smart phones and social media, especially in teens. And with the rate of shootings has rapidly increased since 2012 as well.

Koriter

Torranta wrote:NoI feel that most people doing the shootings have been mentally ill. America, having very poor mental health treatment, has been powerless to stop them. I think we need to be more on the lookout for people showing signs of mental illness and we need to try and help them as fast as possible. In this age where no one can say anything about another person without crossing a line, we need to take charge and get them help whether they like it or not. And I'm not saying we need asylums or anything, but Mentally ill people often don't want help, and then they go on to do these shootings when we could have helped them. I'm not saying all mentally ill people are shooters, either. I just think the problem is mental illness, not guns. I live in the region of the midwest where everyone has guns. We are a hunting community, and we never once have had a shooting like that. The source of all the mental illness: I think it's phones. Studies have shown the decline in mental health and happiness since 2012, possibly due to the popularization of smart phones and social media, especially in teens. And with the rate of shootings has rapidly increased since 2012 as well.

Also the FBI who was, is and should still be monitoring people who make violent, terrorism based threats, royally dropped the ball on this. They knew about this kid, knew he had a plan, and knew he was highly disturbed and completely dropped the ball. Now, I'm on the FBI watch list for making "Anti-government" comments. That's one thing, considering most if not all of my browsing history and internet search, when connected to me, is tagged. I consider the FBI a constant companion. However, for the most part my views are peaceful, yet I'm monitored. Why then, when someone is known to have violent and radical views, does the FBI basically just put their hands up and say "We knew but didn't do anything". The blame should be on them as well as on the shooter right now.

People calling for/campaigning against gun control so soon after (I mean days or hours after), I quite literally regard as disgusting. These specific individuals are using the poor victims as ammunition in their fight, which is just wrong. Both sides are wrong on this one. If you want to immediately blame any one thing, blame the failure of the mental health industry. I use the term industry because that is basically what it is now, it's designed to keep people coming back, keep people relying on the "counselors" and psychologists, who in my experience interviewing them and conversing, mostly are good people who are over taxed by a case load. Further, a lot of people that need mental health help, can't afford it, or don't have access to it. This is a massive issue, if there's one thing I support making government funded entirely so people can access it easily, it's mental health.

However a lot of the blame, if not all of it, MUST be assigned to the individual. This particular individual had made radical comments, we know he was associated with ANTIFA, we know that prior to the attack, he wrote on social media that he was planning to do such a thing. We were well aware that he had made prior threats as well, and had not yet carried them out. Unfortunately, not enough was done to stop this from taking place, which is quite frankly, disappointing.

Ironically, it seems a lot of these take place in the suburbs/city areas, and not in the country where gun ownership is more common. The argument stands, we made drugs like pot illegal, and usage is going up, not down. Restricting drugs from law abiding citizens is an idiotic plan, and is blaming the many for the actions of a few, similar to what Americans do to Arabic people. If you consider "Gun control" a speed bump, criminals will still go out and around rather than over the bumps. Effectively, people would rather blame guns and access to them rather than assign blame where it is due (this is of course when they stop screaming at each other in congress).

I've written articles and debates on this subject, and researched it extensively. It's a really sad thing to read about these poor kids and individuals that are killed, as well as reading about the perpetrators of the violence additionally. It's always a sad day when these events take place too...

Torranta wrote:NoI feel that most people doing the shootings have been mentally ill. America, having very poor mental health treatment, has been powerless to stop them. I think we need to be more on the lookout for people showing signs of mental illness and we need to try and help them as fast as possible. In this age where no one can say anything about another person without crossing a line, we need to take charge and get them help whether they like it or not. And I'm not saying we need asylums or anything, but Mentally ill people often don't want help, and then they go on to do these shootings when we could have helped them. I'm not saying all mentally ill people are shooters, either. I just think the problem is mental illness, not guns. I live in the region of the midwest where everyone has guns. We are a hunting community, and we never once have had a shooting like that. The source of all the mental illness: I think it's phones. Studies have shown the decline in mental health and happiness since 2012, possibly due to the popularization of smartphones and social media, especially in teens. And with the rate of shootings has rapidly increased since 2012 as well.

I agree completely, however, I don't think I will go insane if I'm staring at my phone for 11 hours a day. Maybe some sore eyes, sure, but I'm not gonna go downstairs in the morning and shoot up my school. Just because people have phones does not degrade your mental health, so long as there's not constant exposure, in which case, technology-dependence.

The American Imperialists wrote:The only gun control measure I've heard that i would consider supporting would be a *temporary* ban on purchasing firearms on a person who has evidence against him proving that he is mentally deranged and is likely to commit a shooting if he bought a gun. I forgot what this was called, but how it works is that a family member or a close friend/acquaintance of that person needs to provide substantial evidence to a judge proving that a person in their family/workplace would be a threat to society if he acquired a firearm, then the judge will rule on whether the person should be *temporarily* banned from purchasing guns or not, and for how long. So far that's the only gun control measure I support. Banning ar15s, bump stocks, raising the gun purchasing age, etc. are all stupid in my opinion. I'll also support allowing teachers and school staff with conceal carry permits to carry on schools, and putting armed security/police in schools

And, to follow this beautiful man here(Or woman), if the U.S. allow teachers to carry guns one day, that'll be the day science allows pigs to grow wings and fly.

The American Imperialists

Post by Capitalist Slime suppressed by Torranta.

Capitalist Slime

Archen Federation wrote:Also the FBI who was, is and should still be monitoring people who make violent, terrorism based threats, royally dropped the ball on this. They knew about this kid, knew he had a plan, and knew he was highly disturbed and completely dropped the ball. Now, I'm on the FBI watch list for making "Anti-government" comments. That's one thing, considering most if not all of my browsing history and internet search, when connected to me, is tagged. I consider the FBI a constant companion. However, for the most part my views are peaceful, yet I'm monitored. Why then, when someone is known to have violent and radical views, does the FBI basically just put their hands up and say "We knew but didn't do anything". The blame should be on them as well as on the shooter right now.

People calling for/campaigning against gun control so soon after (I mean days or hours after), I quite literally regard as disgusting. These specific individuals are using the poor victims as ammunition in their fight, which is just wrong. Both sides are wrong on this one. If you want to immediately blame any one thing, blame the failure of the mental health industry. I use the term industry because that is basically what it is now, it's designed to keep people coming back, keep people relying on the "counselors" and psychologists, who in my experience interviewing them and conversing, mostly are good people who are over taxed by a case load. Further, a lot of people that need mental health help, can't afford it, or don't have access to it. This is a massive issue, if there's one thing I support making government funded entirely so people can access it easily, it's mental health.

However a lot of the blame, if not all of it, MUST be assigned to the individual. This particular individual had made radical comments, we know he was associated with ANTIFA, we know that prior to the attack, he wrote on social media that he was planning to do such a thing. We were well aware that he had made prior threats as well, and had not yet carried them out. Unfortunately, not enough was done to stop this from taking place, which is quite frankly, disappointing.

Ironically, it seems a lot of these take place in the suburbs/city areas, and not in the country where gun ownership is more common. The argument stands, we made drugs like pot illegal, and usage is going up, not down. Restricting drugs from law abiding citizens is an idiotic plan, and is blaming the many for the actions of a few, similar to what Americans do to Arabic people. If you consider "Gun control" a speed bump, criminals will still go out and around rather than over the bumps. Effectively, people would rather blame guns and access to them rather than assign blame where it is due (this is of course when they stop screaming at each other in congress).

I've written articles and debates on this subject, and researched it extensively. It's a really sad thing to read about these poor kids and individuals that are killed, as well as reading about the perpetrators of the violence additionally. It's always a sad day when these events take place too...

I also agree with the Federation here. If kids are making these sorts of threats, then shouldn't they step in? I don't live in America, I was actually visiting when I heard about the shooting, but do they really have a capable homeland defense force? Don't get me wrong, gun control is no joke, but I don't agree with it and I don't think it solves all your problems. Also, I'm just gonna overlook it as it's a can of worms I'd rather not open. But I mean, if this kid is telling people that HE IS GOING TO SHOOT UP A FREAKING SCHOOL, WHERE IN THE HELL IS THE F.B.I.? OR THE C.I.A.? OR WHATEVER? HELL, CALL IN MY S.A.S., AND THEY'LL TAKE HIM DOWN!!! Agh.....I just.....agh.......

Koriter

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Archen Federation, The American Imperialists, The Cincinnatus Republic

Capitalist Slime wrote:I also agree with the Federation here. If kids are making these sorts of threats, then shouldn't they step in? I don't live in America, I was actually visiting when I heard about the shooting, but do they really have a capable homeland defense force? Don't get me wrong, gun control is no joke, but I don't agree with it and I don't think it solves all your problems. Also, I'm just gonna overlook it as it's a can of worms I'd rather not open. But I mean, if this kid is telling people that HE IS GOING TO SHOOT UP A FREAKING SCHOOL, WHERE IN THE HELL IS THE F.B.I.? OR THE C.I.A.? OR WHATEVER? HELL, CALL IN MY S.A.S., AND THEY'LL TAKE HIM DOWN!!! Agh.....I just.....agh.......

Watch the double posting mate

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Theoretically yes, they should step in, but how many people jokingly threaten, "I'm gonna kill you"? I'm from America, I was born and raised here, a good old "Heinz 57 mix" of of ancestry. We have a massive agency called Homeland Security, who are so busy tracking illegal criminals and terrorists from foreign soil that they try to leave things like this to the FBI. The CIA is the Central intelligence Agency, they focus outwards, foreign threats. The FBI is basically a police force now, they're who get called in for terrorist threats, bomb threats, and crimes that take place over state borders. Since you said S.A.S. I'm assuming you're English/British? Yeah, well last I checked the S.A.S is a military branch, Special Air Services, I'm pretty sure our equivalent is either the Army Rangers or Delta Force. We also have S.W.A.T., Special Weapons and Tactics, the guys that are ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO DEAL WITH THIS. Who, if you watch the footage, are standing outside, waiting.

Our response to shootings is this

-911 call is placed

-First responders show up

-Often the shooter fires at these responders

-SWAT is called in

-Shooter often engages them

----Shooter ignores swat

-Swat can't enter without risking more civilian lives (how do you id one student or person in a crowd of a few hundred?)

-Swat waits for the person to either stand down, take their own life, be disabled, or run out of ammo.

We saw this in Columbine for one, they had a stand off for hours before both shooters took their own lives. That's the most common response. Personally this is why I can't be a cop, if someone perpetrated an atrocity like this, I would let them stand down then blow them away. It's disgusting that he took those lives willingly, and knowingly and just got to surrender.

Further you can't "Temporarily ban the purchase of firearms" as it technically goes against the Second Amendment. I personally enjoy the motto "You can't defend the rest, without the Second" if you disarm a populace you risk people like Mao, Hitler, and Stalin coming into power very easily, without the regular populace having the ability to effectively resist. (No, Trump is not Hitler, open a damn history book)

Archen Federation wrote:Watch the double posting mate

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Theoretically yes, they should step in, but how many people jokingly threaten, "I'm gonna kill you"? I'm from America, I was born and raised here, a good old "Heinz 57 mix" of of ancestry. We have a massive agency called Homeland Security, who are so busy tracking illegal criminals and terrorists from foreign soil that they try to leave things like this to the FBI. The CIA is the Central intelligence Agency, they focus outwards, foreign threats. The FBI is basically a police force now, they're who get called in for terrorist threats, bomb threats, and crimes that take place over state borders. Since you said S.A.S. I'm assuming you're English/British? Yeah, well last I checked the S.A.S is a military branch, Special Air Services, I'm pretty sure our equivalent is either the Army Rangers or Delta Force. We also have S.W.A.T., Special Weapons and Tactics, the guys that are ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO DEAL WITH THIS. Who, if you watch the footage, are standing outside, waiting.

Our response to shootings is this

-911 call is placed

-First responders show up

-Often the shooter fires at these responders

-SWAT is called in

-Shooter often engages them

----Shooter ignores swat

-Swat can't enter without risking more civilian lives (how do you id one student or person in a crowd of a few hundred?)

-Swat waits for the person to either stand down, take their own life, be disabled, or run out of ammo.

We saw this in Columbine for one, they had a stand off for hours before both shooters took their own lives. That's the most common response. Personally this is why I can't be a cop, if someone perpetrated an atrocity like this, I would let them stand down then blow them away. It's disgusting that he took those lives willingly, and knowingly and just got to surrender.

Further you can't "Temporarily ban the purchase of firearms" as it technically goes against the Second Amendment. I personally enjoy the motto "You can't defend the rest, without the Second" if you disarm a populace you risk people like Mao, Hitler, and Stalin coming into power very easily, without the regular populace having the ability to effectively resist. (No, Trump is not Hitler, open a damn history book)

Most shootings end very quickly once law enforcement engages them. There was a police officer at the school when it happened, but he didn't have a gun on him because he didn't think anything would happen. When you are a police officer, you are supposed to protect no matter the situation. Instead the officer escaped the building with everyone else. He. Did. Nothing. Most of the time when a shooter encounters the police, they either turn the gun on themselves, or turn it on the police. At that point, the police has the upper hand and the shooting ends quickly. This guy could have easily stopped many more deaths if he did anything at all, because shooters expect chaos, they don't expect resistance. The Best thing you can do is the right thing. The next best thing you can do is the wrong thing. The worst thing you can do is nothing. Also, this guy had been visited by the police or whatever force it was over 30 times. They had found guns at his residence, and it was clear that he was not right in the head. There's no way they could have brushed it off as an "I'm going to kill you" joke. We as Americans have the right to revolt. Revolt is hard to manage without firearms. Enough said.

Capitalist Slime wrote:I agree completely, however, I don't think I will go insane if I'm staring at my phone for 11 hours a day. Maybe some sore eyes, sure, but I'm not gonna go downstairs in the morning and shoot up my school. Just because people have phones does not degrade your mental health, so long as there's not constant exposure, in which case, technology-dependence.

And, to follow this beautiful man here(Or woman), if the U.S. allow teachers to carry guns one day, that'll be the day science allows pigs to grow wings and fly.

The phones become a problem when people start believing what they see on social media. Americans are more lonely than ever now because they communicate over text and not face to face. Loneliness leads to depression. Also, the media constantly glorifies shootings on TV. All they do is talk about all the bad that happens so they can get good ratings from generating a Shock Value. And, the mentally unstable watching it, all they see is a glorified mess of bad occurences. They see it and think, "I want to be glorified too." It becomes a video game to them. They shoot to get a kill count and beat all the others. I think I read somewhere that the shooter at Florida had been given guns and video games by his mom. And he had Asperger's syndrome. People with Asperger's tend to focus on small details, and in some cases let it control their lives. Because of the influence his mom had on him by giving him guns, teaching him how to shoot, and giving him all these video games, his life became centered around guns. The police found a board under the kid's bed with kill counts and weapons used by the top shooters of the world. He left the top space empty. Any ideas who he left it empty for?

Koriter

Torranta wrote:Most shootings end very quickly once law enforcement engages them. There was a police officer at the school when it happened, but he didn't have a gun on him because he didn't think anything would happen. When you are a police officer, you are supposed to protect no matter the situation. Instead the officer escaped the building with everyone else. He. Did. Nothing. Most of the time when a shooter encounters the police, they either turn the gun on themselves, or turn it on the police. At that point, the police has the upper hand and the shooting ends quickly. This guy could have easily stopped many more deaths if he did anything at all, because shooters expect chaos, they don't expect resistance. The Best thing you can do is the right thing. The next best thing you can do is the wrong thing. The worst thing you can do is nothing. Also, this guy had been visited by the police or whatever force it was over 30 times. They had found guns at his residence, and it was clear that he was not right in the head. There's no way they could have brushed it off as an "I'm going to kill you" joke. We as Americans have the right to revolt. Revolt is hard to manage without firearms. Enough said.

The phones become a problem when people start believing what they see on social media. Americans are more lonely than ever now because they communicate over text and not face to face. Loneliness leads to depression. Also, the media constantly glorifies shootings on TV. All they do is talk about all the bad that happens so they can get good ratings from generating a Shock Value. And, the mentally unstable watching it, all they see is a glorified mess of bad occurences. They see it and think, "I want to be glorified too." It becomes a video game to them. They shoot to get a kill count and beat all the others. I think I read somewhere that the shooter at Florida had been given guns and video games by his mom. And he had Asperger's syndrome. People with Asperger's tend to focus on small details, and in some cases let it control their lives. Because of the influence his mom had on him by giving him guns, teaching him how to shoot, and giving him all these video games, his life became centered around guns. The police found a board under the kid's bed with kill counts and weapons used by the top shooters of the world. He left the top space empty. Any ideas who he left it empty for?

I personally never use my phone, and when I talk to people, I usually do it face to face. I am personally in favor of arming teachers, because if the teachers can take out the shooter, then less casualties. I also am in support of more background and mental health checks, but banning guns is too far.

Torranta, The Cincinnatus Republic

Koriter wrote:I personally never use my phone, and when I talk to people, I usually do it face to face. I am personally in favor of arming teachers, because if the teachers can take out the shooter, then less casualties. I also am in support of more background and mental health checks, but banning guns is too far.

You never make phone calls? Never text? Never check your email via your phone?

(I had to play devils advocate)

Archen Federation wrote:You never make phone calls? Never text? Never check your email via your phone?

(I had to play devils advocate)

Ok, I barely gat on my phone. I barley text, only to my parents, barley call, except when I need to, and I check email on my computer.

Archen Federation wrote:You never make phone calls? Never text? Never check your email via your phone?

(I had to play devils advocate)

Koriter wrote:Ok, I barely gat on my phone. I barley text, only to my parents, barley call, except when I need to, and I check email on my computer.

Texting in itself is not entirely the evil. While excessive usage of this technology is what deprives the human mind of legitimate companionship, it has proven itself to be useful. I am more concerned with social media and the news.

Torranta wrote:Texting in itself is not entirely the evil. While excessive usage of this technology is what deprives the human mind of legitimate companionship, it has proven itself to be useful. I am more concerned with social media and the news.

I've been texting for the last 8 years, I have plenty of real relationships

Capitalist Slime wrote:And, to follow this beautiful man here(Or woman), if the U.S. allow teachers to carry guns one day, that'll be the day science allows pigs to grow wings and fly.

I know that it isn't probable, but it would be great if it happened. But Trump has proposed this so it could be probable

Now I have a flag I created (I wanted to be more original).

Archen Federation, Bonnie Blue Republic, The Cincinnatus Republic

The American Imperialists wrote:I know that it isn't probable, but it would be great if it happened. But Trump has proposed this so it could be probable

Lets put retired army and police vets in schools, armed, in a central location. Watch the number drop.

Archen Federation wrote:I've been texting for the last 8 years, I have plenty of real relationships

The point was that social media and the news were the problem, not texting.

I'm reading some real life garbage right now.

Butcherhooks, Freedomonia

Archen Federation wrote:Lets put retired army and police vets in schools, armed, in a central location. Watch the number drop.

By putting them in a central location that makes them easier to get around, trap, or be targeted.

Horcrox

Freedomonia wrote:By putting them in a central location that makes them easier to get around, trap, or be targeted.

The point is that no shooters going to walk into a school with multiple armed, experienced men guarding it, no matter what their location is. Shooters nowadays don't expect resistance, and when they meet it they are quickly stopped.

Bonnie Blue Republic, Some Random Lands

Archen Federation wrote:Lets put retired army and police vets in schools, armed, in a central location. Watch the number drop.

Like that's a good idea. You know American vets have a higher tendency to have PTSD than any retired teacher right? Even our armed forces don't have much PTSD, and my dads was vet.

Some Random Lands

Freedomonia wrote:By putting them in a central location that makes them easier to get around, trap, or be targeted.

You ever seen a cornered Marine? Or a cornered SEAL?

"The most dangerous animal is one you have caged, for there is no where for them to go but through you"

Give me endorsements and I will vote to make cookies free.

The American Imperialists wrote:

But you can do both, why should a nation like America pull our troops from all of the nations that we are currently protecting? We can and are protecting the nation. Sending our troops abroad does not mean our security is threatened, it could even mean the opposite

I'll say this one last time, I meant for my interpretation not be applied to a modern scenario, only during our country's founding.

Archen Federation

Arming teachers is a dumb idea.

For one thing, there isn't enough money in the school system for, say, paper and pencils, let alone modern firearms.

For another, there are a lot of teachers - at least one is probably a nutcase.

Or rather, arming every teacher is a dumb idea.

Selectively arming one or two per school, on the other hand, would enable much further screening to take place.

The identity of these teachers shouldn't be published.

They would, hopefully, serve as a deterrent.

I am aware of the fact that I previously requested politics be kept off the RMB. However, since they've pretty well taken over, I figured I'm chip in my two cents.

The United Banking Associaton, Clarkentrent

Bonnie Blue Republic wrote:Arming teachers is a dumb idea.

For one thing, there isn't enough money in the school system for, say, paper and pencils, let alone modern firearms.

For another, there are a lot of teachers - at least one is probably a nutcase.

Or rather, arming every teacher is a dumb idea.

Selectively arming one or two per school, on the other hand, would enable much further screening to take place.

The identity of these teachers shouldn't be published.

They would, hopefully, serve as a deterrent.

I am aware of the fact that I previously requested politics be kept off the RMB. However, since they've pretty well taken over, I figured I'm chip in my two cents.

Allowing teachers with conceal carry permits to carry their own guns in schools is perfectly logical, I don't think anyone is advocating for arming all teachers

Modern Israel

I support arming teachers, but not in the way that Trump does. For one, I believe that schools should have the right to choose if guns could be allowed in a school. I don't support EVERY teacher having guns. You can't force teachers to have guns, and some teachers would disregard the idea. But having guns in schools in general is a good way to prevent school shootings, or at least school shootings as serious as the ones we've seen. I am strongly supportive of the second amendment and I am pro-gun, unlike many people in my state(Hawaii) and I am also an ancap.

Where Your Deadbeat Dad Lives

Right.

So, Torranta tell me if I've got this right:

The WA resolution currently at vote is the same one that was just repealed.

Is this correct?

Where Your Deadbeat Dad Lives

Bonnie Blue Republic wrote:Right.

So, Torranta tell me if I've got this right:

The WA resolution currently at vote is the same one that was just repealed.

Is this correct?

I think some new additions were added to the bill to address some of the concerns about the bill having faults

Where Your Deadbeat Dad Lives

I have returned. Too much to catch up on, so I'll jump in as it makes sense :)

Butcherhooks, Where Your Deadbeat Dad Lives

Bonnie Blue Republic wrote:Right.

So, Torranta tell me if I've got this right:

The WA resolution currently at vote is the same one that was just repealed.

Is this correct?

The American Imperialists wrote:I think some new additions were added to the bill to address some of the concerns about the bill having faults

Hey, it's your WA Delegate, here to do his job!

Yeah, they made changes to it, but they missed the point. Also, there is another bill being proposed and approved on that is a better version of it that I might consider approving. I'd still vote AGAINST this one. It still has many of the major flaws the original had, is poorly written, and seems like a poor attempt to prove something. I may go into more detail later when I have time, but the gist of my reasoning is the same as my reasoning for the original version that got repealed. Actually, there is one thing that makes me really hate this resolution:

"That Member-States rescind any and all biomedical research ethics standards and regulations that do not serve specifically to minimize or eliminate direct or indirect harm to life provably sentient or sapient at the time of research..."

This is the same main reason I suggested we vote for repealing it in the first place due to the fact that nations are not permitted to make regulations other than ones that specifically serve the purpose of protecting life, and forgetting that sentient beings have inalienable rights other than the right to life, such as religion and ethics. While the resolution did change to make provisions for religion and ethics, the section above contradicts all previously mentioned points that promote these ethic standards. Not only does the resolution continue to present the same problems as the original law did, but now with the proposed changes in the resolution, the bill also contradicts itself. And a better version is in the works at the moment anyway.

Please vote AGAINST this resolution.

By the way, I experimented with mass TG's. I figured out how to exclude certain types of nations and require certain types of nations, so I can send TG's to specifically the WA nations of Lands End. When I tried it before, it would send it to all Lands End nations, and all the WA nations of the world without filtering it out to specifically WA nations in Lands End. I figured it out now.

Bonnie Blue Republic, The American Imperialists, Fanter Kesh, Bluximburg, Where Your Deadbeat Dad Lives

*Grumbling* they're gonna restrict my research projects again... damn WA.....

Unike, Buryasia, The American Imperialists, Fanter Kesh, Koriter, Where Your Deadbeat Dad Lives

Been reading Marked for Death by Geert Wilder the Dutch Parliamentary man that's been in hiding for 10 plus years. The book is very informative and gives examples to why Islam is bring the Western World down. Compares Islam to that of Hitler's National Socialist ideology and that non-Muslims are to be exterminated and subjugated into a united Caliphate. Mind you that the book is very heavily information filled and gives details of Honor killings of daughters and wives by Islamic following men. I've been reading it for about 3 hours so far today and got to Chapter 9 before I had to put the book down I was not mentally prepared for the information in that book should of listened to my History Professor.

Archen Federation, Bluximburg, Where Your Deadbeat Dad Lives

Butcherhooks wrote:Been reading Marked for Death by Geert Wilder the Dutch Parliamentary man that's been in hiding for 10 plus years. The book is very informative and gives examples to why Islam is bring the Western World down. Compares Islam to that of Hitler's National Socialist ideology and that non-Muslims are to be exterminated and subjugated into a united Caliphate. Mind you that the book is very heavily information filled and gives details of Honor killings of daughters and wives by Islamic following men. I've been reading it for about 3 hours so far today and got to Chapter 9 before I had to put the book down I was not mentally prepared for the information in that book should of listened to my History Professor.

I get death threats for writing similar things too. Gotta love that good old "religion of peace".

I'm convinced that the WA just doesn't want me to make my genetically engineered super solfiers...

Butcherhooks, Where Your Deadbeat Dad Lives

Archen Federation They probably see you as a threat then. Well yeah you told me about it remember?

Archen Federation, Where Your Deadbeat Dad Lives

Butcherhooks wrote:Archen Federation They probably see you as a threat then. Well yeah you told me about it remember?

"They are right to fear me"

Just hit 30 endorsements

The Cincinnatus Republic, Where Your Deadbeat Dad Lives

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So, has anybody else seen the new WA thing? I honestly think it's good that we're finally taking science seriously by having biomedical research here. I can't wait for the new issue to get created, and I'm honestly interested in how it'll play out.

Capitalist Slime wrote:So, has anybody else seen the new WA thing? I honestly think it's good that we're finally taking science seriously by having biomedical research here. I can't wait for the new issue to get created, and I'm honestly interested in how it'll play out.

It's already a thing. This is trying to infringe on it

Capitalist Slime wrote:So, has anybody else seen the new WA thing? I honestly think it's good that we're finally taking science seriously by having biomedical research here. I can't wait for the new issue to get created, and I'm honestly interested in how it'll play out.

Scroll up and you may find my explanation why I think we should vote against it. Did you think that resolutions created issues?

Archen Federation

I would be very happy to adopt the resolution for my nation, but I think it goes too far, as Torranta pointed out, in limiting the ability of member nations to regulate biomedical research based on their own ethical concerns.

Buryasia

Okla-Texas wrote:Now I have a flag I created (I wanted to be more original).

Since not a lot of people know my flag is the flag of Kyrgyzstan, I just see it as an original.

Okla-Texas

The Cincinnatus Republic wrote:Since not a lot of people know my flag is the flag of Kyrgyzstan, I just see it as an original.

My flag is from history; it was never officially a flag of anything.

And no, guessing where/when it's from does not get you brownie points.

My nation name is a pretty big hint.

The Cincinnatus Republic

Bonnie Blue Republic wrote:My flag is from history; it was never officially a flag of anything.

And no, guessing where/when it's from does not get your brownie points.

My nation name is a pretty big hint.

Somalia. LOL

Liberum Imperium

Purim Sameach! I wish a happy Purim to the Jews of lands end. May we forever commemorate beating Haman at his own game :)

Liberum Imperium, The Shepherd State, The Cincinnatus Republic

Modern Israel wrote:Purim Sameach! I wish a happy Purim to the Jews of lands end. May we forever commemorate beating Haman at his own game :)

Purim Sameach! #TeamEsther

The Shepherd State, Modern Israel

Modern Israel wrote:Purim Sameach! I wish a happy Purim to the Jews of lands end. May we forever commemorate beating Haman at his own game :)

Liberum Imperium wrote:Purim Sameach! #TeamEsther

Ah, Purim. the time of year when we celebrate a brave young woman who maneuvered court intrigue, manipulated her husband, got a murderous maniac executed, and prevented genocide. #TeamEsther

Modern Israel

Bonnie Blue Republic wrote:My flag is from history; it was never officially a flag of anything.

And no, guessing where/when it's from does not get your brownie points.

My nation name is a pretty big hint.

It's the Bonnie Blue flag, the unofficial Confederate States Flag.

Am I right?

I love warm pizza 🍕 yumm!

The United Banking Associaton wrote:It's the Bonnie Blue flag, the unofficial Confederate States Flag.

Am I right?

Congratulations.

You win a sense of pride and accomplishment.

Cizicus

Bonnie Blue Republic wrote:Congratulations.

You win a sense of pride and accomplishment.

What about my brownie points?

The United Banking Associaton wrote:What about my brownie points?

I specifically said you wouldn't get any...

But, since you asked, you get two anyway.

They're functionally worthless. But you have them.

Archen Federation, Freedomonia

Hey all, Torranta's puppet thing from The Breakroom. The Embassy with us has finally opened, so all nations may use embassy posting to visit the breakroom, enjoy a cup of coffee, and have fun with RP!

Koriter

Apparently I have more than one WA nation? I don't know how this is possible?

Edit: I just had my two friends smaller nations withdraw to be safe

Archen Federation wrote:Apparently I have more than one WA nation? I don't know how this is possible?

Edit: I just had my two friends smaller nations withdraw to be safe

You may have used two different emails

Novae Unionis Romanae

I double checked, they all have different ones they used. I'm a little peeved because both of them wanted to participate in the WA. Novae Unionis Romanae Ursus Auream, are the ones that withdrew

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Unfortunately it is impossible to tell who, exactly, is operating your computer at any given time. For this reason, it has long been game policy that multiple WA nations from the same computer are not permitted. Please see the Ejected from the WA? Here's why document for the official ruling.

Torranta What are the different ranks of regional influence? Like squire etc..?

I was also removed for the same reason... I have only just started the game and now this? This is unreal.

Why have I been removed from the WA?

Archen Federation

Horcrox wrote:Why have I been removed from the WA?

If you got contacted by the WA for it you'll have a telegram. Apparently you CANNOT run 2 nations that are both WA on the same computer for one. Be warned of that. IDK what bug flew up NA's butt but seriously... this is irritating.

We had to resign the WA because of this... we didn't want Archen Federation banned...

Apparently if you have multiple nations you can't check them on the same machine. This irks me because why not? If we're not using WA nations to try and throw votes at an issue in our favor why does it matter? It's not like an extra vote or 4 or 5 is going to turn the tide.

I'd like to put forward that WA member standing shouldn't be mandatory for Shareholder, not if the WA is gonna pull this.

Also didn't we JUST repeal this stupid bill in the WA? Wtf?

Fanter Kesh

"Capercom stands firmly against any occupation supported by Lone Wolves United, as their coup of Lazarus by Funkadelia, Killer Kitty, and Scum (who has since changed nations to become Aleister) is one of the greater atrocities of last year.

I implore all World Assembly nations in Lands End to vote in favor of the current Security Council Proposal, "Liberate Westphalia" in an continued effort to thwart the negative energy spread across NationStates by LWU and their partners."

- President Benz

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Capitalist Slime

I support Liberate Westphalia, however, it's kinda pointless. Unless the WA guides them with a firm hand, they're just gonna do it again. And again. And keep doing it until they control a lot of regional power. Can you imagine a region with its founding fathers having so much power, they literally can do whatever they want in the WA? Having power means control. If you have 5 regions with WA Delegates, you have some power. If the raiders take over a new region, they force that region to give them power or they leave, prompting the Raiders to ban those in power. The WA can't do anything because the WA like it's Delegates, no matter who sits on the throne. It's really kinda sad and pointless in the end. But, nonetheless, I give my support to Liberate Westphalia, and I think we should too.

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