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maybe we should let the parties be for now and go raid some commies

all in favor, type I

We don't need to call a vote on raiding. But remember not to mention plans/targets on the RMB. Use telegrams for that matter.

The First Presidential Election will occur later this month. So far it looks like I'm going to be running for re-election unopposed. Does anyone want to throw their hat in the ring?

Alchandria, telegram everyone the plans

what do you mean?

What do you think of that place, Pev?

Okay, you can leave me out of the discussion. My ideas are lame.

I like your ideas

Actually, we need you and I like your ideas.

Perhaps we should keep them on file for when we have even more manpower. I might be a strategist, but I'm one with an army a fourth the size my plans need it to be.

Maybe we could get help from some of our allies?

My thoughts exactly, but providing too much information could thwart plans just as soon as they are devised.

We should try the other one I mentioned for now, we could do that

Use telegrams only to regions we trust

I'd like to help with a big raid, but I'm out of action in that regard from now to early January.

Okay, then you should probably go with Alchandria's plan. Once Pevvania is back in action, we can try my plan, in which I will actually participate.

Pevvania wrote:I'd like to help with a big raid, but I'm out of action in that regard from now to early January.

I'm going to Canada on Wednesday, and until then I'm really, really busy.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Okay, then you should probably go with Alchandria's plan. Once Pevvania is back in action, we can try my plan, in which I will actually participate.

I have a feeling they will go down somewhat fast

Pev, could we geta regional telegram for the sake of recruitment for the fight

Indeed, but double-check your plan for security risks just in case. REATO requires another victory.

They are allied with the you know what, but other than that, it is pretty rock solid.

NO, I mean we're REATO. Or at least, a member of it.

An organization Pev started dedicated to fighting commies. This is practically the only region that does anything for it, if I recall.

I'm good to participate up until the 20th.

Why do they require another victory?

Well, i'm not only a politician in Libertatem.. I'm a solider too i guess.. haha

I foresee an easy victory

Some of our raids have been successes. Others, failures. According to a gambler's idiotic misrepresentation of statistics, we are entitled to another victory.

lets start telegramming anti commie allies, message their most active people in a mass telegram.

Maybe, but the raid planned now should only involve Libertatem forces...that is, if it's that easy.

Are we almost ready?

Their leader has five votes, they are inactive, and have a pop. of around 30

Alch, Zarden, since you guys are presumably quite new to NationStates, I recommend your first raid being on a very small communist region of 5-10 nations.

This is not my first raid

I'll pass on the wimpy stuff

This will be interesting..

i just hope your not moving nations from Libertatem to the region your raiding...

Ive had other accounts. This isn't my first either.

That was the plan

I am going to make a fake commie switcher and move in

Good good. Carry on then.

Ok so move in and delegate Alch's puppet, The Communistan Republic

What do you guys think about the statement "Taxation is theft?" I don't think it's true in a literal sense, as you are receiving a variety of services in exchange for the taxes you pay towards the government. However, the problem with this is that you often don't have a choice when receiving these services. The government monopolises defense, arbitration, security, welfare and various other parts of life that could be just as easily managed by private organisations. Often the government doesn't even provide these services to a very high degree of quality, yet it insists one excluding all potential competitors from performing the same duties. An example can be found in the early 1910s, at the dawn of the Liberal Welfare Reforms in Britain. Previously, 'friendly societies' - sort of cooperative charity organisations - had provided for the poor. They fell out of existence after the government monopolised welfare. The US government crushed thousands of low-cost healthcare providers in the 60s when it began to heavily regulate the industry, and spawned dozens of monopolies in the place of a competitive market. Things are getting even worse with the dawn of Obamacare.

So no, taxation isn't theft - it's protection money that ensures you only buy from very specific providers. The very thing liberals claim to hate.

Taxation is extortion, basically. Justified in that it provides a great deal of public benefit, but that benefit is basically one cent out of each tax dollar.

*Facepalm*

I'm sorry, but this 'raid' just isn't gonna work... It's been shoddily organised and is incredibly obvious. Go ahead if you want to, but I don't want to see the reputation of our army stained.

I'll go get muh roads

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Ok I'm back from commieville, which was a nightmare, so What else is on the agenda?

How about we take, like, two WA members and liberate Ffs Libertatem Iru Cafe?

Riders probably don't care, so I doubt there will be any resistance.

sweet lets roll

Good idea. All you guys need to do is change the WFE and leave.

Yep; not a difficult operation at all.

I endorsed the guy there so yeah

You have to remain in the region during the update time for the endorsement to count.

when is the update time?

ill send my WA puppet in there

Make sure only one of your nations are in the WA at any one time.

Alch is negotiating people from Benevolent Capitalism for his operation.

Would anybody be willing to endorse me for a resolution for LGBT rights?

That was a failure

Also, one of the members of REATO has a communist for a delegate

Pevvania wrote:*Facepalm*

I'm sorry, but this 'raid' just isn't gonna work... It's been shoddily organised and is incredibly obvious. Go ahead if you want to, but I don't want to see the reputation of our army stained.

I agree, this didn't go well :/

That was the best thing ever

BTW, there is a communist delegate in REATO

Zarden wrote:Would anybody be willing to endorse me for a resolution for LGBT rights?

There is nothing on the topic already passed?

I feel like it is somewhat self-evident here

I leave for three days and... what?!?

Alchandria wrote:BTW, there is a communist delegate in REATO

Yep, but if he's not meant to be, the janitor will get em.

Welcome back, I guess

Humpheria wrote:I leave for three days and... what?!?

You missed the party! I did a keg stand.

You left for 3 days and now there are 3 new parties

And two new people running for board, including myself

Alchandria wrote:And two new people running for board, including myself

Just because I don't feel like searching old messages, what seat and what party?

Zarden for 5th seat acp

Myself for 3rd seat lop

Congratulations and Good Luck to the both of you! Remember three more days until the deadline people.

May I ask you a Question?

How many people do you think are active here on an average day?

Pevvania wrote:What do you guys think about the statement "Taxation is theft?" I don't think it's true in a literal sense, as you are receiving a variety of services in exchange for the taxes you pay towards the government. However, the problem with this is that you often don't have a choice when receiving these services. The government monopolises defense, arbitration, security, welfare and various other parts of life that could be just as easily managed by private organisations. Often the government doesn't even provide these services to a very high degree of quality, yet it insists one excluding all potential competitors from performing the same duties. An example can be found in the early 1910s, at the dawn of the Liberal Welfare Reforms in Britain. Previously, 'friendly societies' - sort of cooperative charity organisations - had provided for the poor. They fell out of existence after the government monopolised welfare. The US government crushed thousands of low-cost healthcare providers in the 60s when it began to heavily regulate the industry, and spawned dozens of monopolies in the place of a competitive market. Things are getting even worse with the dawn of Obamacare.

So no, taxation isn't theft - it's protection money that ensures you only buy from very specific providers. The very thing liberals claim to hate.

I guess its all about what you consider racketeering to be, because in a very literal sense that's all taxation is. "You will pay for our services, regardless of how ineffective they are, or someone with a gun will come and take the money any way." I consider that to be theft

That is a very strange question. Why?

The more people, the more votes

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