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Region: Libertatem
I'm agnostic but open to all religions.
Austex
Catholic (Vatican II)
I'm Lutheran but I'm actually not really religious.
Can I start a political party?
The lack thereof. Not a huge fan of dogmatic assertions, particularly those that pervert or twist the meaning of God's will.
Wouldn't it technically be a census, as it asks the entire population and not just a sample? I'm taking AP stats at the moment, haha.
In all seriousness, I've responded.
Well, if you consider things like modern Humanism and Satanism to be "denominations" of Atheism, then I suppose I'm a Pastafarian. I also worship the invisible pink unicorn though (I hope some of you are in on that joke).
Of course, if you're a citizen (my phone is having trouble loading the register for some reason). Though it's very hard to gain support.
In that case then this Friday because that is when I have the time to take the test
I think technically non-citizens are also allowed to form parties (or they were last time I checked), but it does help to actually be a citizen.
Well, my nation will soon be lapsing into anarchy, my crime and income inequality are both high.
As no citizens have stepped forward, my office will be appointing a replacement to the Board tomorrow morning. As a personal and voluntary check of power I will have my appointee approved by the sitting board.
Do you guys know if there is a description somewhere on the geo-political situation in NationStates?
I am currently non-denominational, until I find the right one for me. Honestly, I don't like the idea of trusting the word of man and really only trust the word of God, which is why I always look to my trusty Bible :)
I usually just say I am a Bible believing non-denominational Christian but more precisely:
Currently a member of a Non-Denominational non-cessationist conservative Reformed Church with a modified Congregationalist polity, an objective realist philosophical understanding informed by Evangelical Biblical Theology consisting mostly of libertarian-leaning conservatives who have rejected the Kantian divide, (e.i.,hold to a paleo-conservative epistemology coupled to a paleo-liberal ontological outlook) with a strong Romans 14 emphasis; even though I grew up with an even more motley environment.
... Jokingly a Quakerene Bapticostal with Congbyterian tendencies...
The New United States
Government Opinion Polls
The results of the government opinion polls are as follows:
Citizen Response
30%
Overall [nation=short]Humpheria[/nation]/[nation=short]Right-winged nation[/nation] administration-
Favorable 75%
Neutral 25%
President [nation=short]Humpheria[/nation] Job Performance
Favorable 75%
Neutral 25%
Vice President RWN Job Performance
Favorable 38%
Neutral 63%
Manager [nation=short]Pevvania[/nation] Job Performance
Favorable 88%
Neutral 13%
Manager [nation=short]Kings Island[/nation] Job Performance
Favorable 25%
Neutral 38%
Unfavorable 38%
Manager [nation=short]Condealism[/nation] Job Performance
Favorable 63%
Neutral 38%
Board ([nation=short]Miencraft[/nation], [nation=short]The Aradites[/nation], [nation=short]The New United States[/nation], [nation=short]Right-winged nation[/nation])
Favorable 25%
Neutral 25%
Unfavorable 50%
Issues:
War Expansion/REATO 63%
Liberties and Freedoms 38%
Free Movement Treaty 24%
I, the undersigned, President of Libertatem affirm these results to be true and agree to take the proper responses to members of my government based on the scores of the public opinion, to a point. Perge ad libertatem!
Humpheria
Dr. Humpheria, Jc.D
President VI X
Libertatem
Pevvania, Rateria, Condealism, Greater Columbion, Lain Iwakura
I would like to transfer my citizenship to another nation and move this nation elsewhere. What are the rules for and what is the process for doing so?
Let Kings Island know the name of the nation and he will transfer it.
Today I had the chance to meet Vit Jedlicka, the founder of Liberland, who was the special guest of the Law Students Association of my University. He is definitely a very passionate and voluntary guy, I've no doubt that he'll manage to do something good with Liberland.
Are you guys interested in this project ?
Kings Island, Pevvania
Somewhat cynical. No country will recognize it, and the Czechs atm are doing everything they can keep people out. Unless Vit can get a huge army with guns (impossible with European laws) or perhaps get a huge group to enter Liberland all at once, it is nothing much more than a corporate backed legal standoff and soapbox.
Croats* not Czechs
Tell him to accept my damn citizenship app. =P
It is my honor to appoint the esteemed [nation=short]Yrellian Confederacy[/nation] to the Office of Attorney General. This office is becoming evermore important with the establishment of the Judicial Branch, as only the Attorney General may prosecute the Appeals and Supreme Courts. They are also responsible for a variety of other things and I look forward to General Yrellian's many accomplishments in this office, despite our political differences.
I, the undersigned, President of Libertatem hereby appoint [nation=short]Yrellian Confederacy[/nation] to the highest office in the Justice Department as Attorney General.
Humpheria
Dr. Humpheria, Jc.D
President VI X
Libertatem
Citizenship Roster Updated.
Lain Iwakura
Doctor of Canon Law?
> 5th least rebellious youth
1. In our lovely Deseret,
Where the Saints of God have met,
There's a multitude of children all around.
They are generous and brave;
They have precious souls to save;
They must listen and obey the gospel's sound.
[Chorus]
Hark! Hark! Hark! 'tis children's music
Children's voices, oh, how sweet,
When in innocence and love,
Like the angels up above,
They with happy hearts and cheerful faces meet.
2. That the children may live long
And be beautiful and strong,
Tea and coffee and tobacco they despise,
Drink no liquor, and they eat
But a very little meat;
They are seeking to be great and good and wise.
[Chorus]
3. They should be instructed young
How to watch and guard the tongue,
And their tempers train and evil passions bind;
They should always be polite,
And treat ev'rybody right,
And in ev'ry place be affable and kind.
[Chorus]
4. They must not forget to pray,
Night and morning ev'ry day,
For the Lord to keep them safe from ev'ry ill,
And assist them to do right,
That with all their mind and might
They may love him and may learn to do his will.
[Chorus]
Text: Eliza R. Snow, 1804-1887
Music: George F. Root, 1820-1895
Doctor of Commonwealth Law, but that's not what's important there.
Sorry. Just curious as to what that meant.
Congratulations to [nation=short]Yrellian Confederacy[/nation]!
Yrellian Confederacy
[B]THE STATE'S PRAYER[/B]
"Our Leader, who art in Washington,
hallowed be thy roads.
Thy property rights none,
Thy taxes done, on time and in sealed envelope.
Give us this day our daily bread ration,
And forgive us our voluntary trades,
And lead us not into free markets,
but deliver us from Somalia,
For thine is the interstate, the drones, the schools,
and the functioning toasters, forever and ever.
Sweden."
Miencraft, Kings Island, The New United States, Humpheria, Rateria, Condealism, Austex, Brasil The Hueland, Lain Iwakura
Hi everyone. I'm sorry that I wasn't active for a bit.
Humpheria
I'm still not active, but I intend to remedy that as soon as my computer is operational again.
I hope you don't mind advertising, but my school is not allowing a gay senior to take his date to homecoming. If you can, please sign this change.org petition and share it.
https://www.change.org/p/christian-brothers-high-school-let-lance-take-his-date-to-homecoming
What a bunch of pricks
Miencraft, Republic Of Minerva, Rateria, Condealism, The Dark Lieutenant
> Private Catholic school follows policies that are in line with Catholic standards on sexuality
Bigots!
Miencraft, Rateria
Exactly who is this hurting that he brings another dude to homecoming? *Waiting on religious morals are being violated explanation*
Rateria, Condealism
Thank you, I'll do my best.
A private institution, regardless of religious affiliation or lack thereof, is privileged to conduct itself in whatever fashion seen fit, and to act according to the dictates of the belief system to which it adheres.
Perhaps the practicing-homosexual student or his parents should have considered that, when enrolling him in a privately-owned Catholic boarding school. Bringing another male from off-campus to the dance is against the rules.
Miencraft, Condealism, Greater Columbion, Austex
And don't even get me started on those sit-ins. I mean, if black people want to eat at the counter like civilized folk, they shouldn't have moved to the Southern half of the US.
Speaking of which, Brown V. Board of Education should only apply to the government. After all, private owners have the inaliable right to run there stores how they see fit.
True freedom is the freedom to belittle and discriminate against those we view as inferior.
Humpheria, Right-Winged Nation, Rateria, Greater Columbion, Austex, The Dark Lieutenant
True freedom is being able to manage your private property however you want, without the state threatening you with violence. Libertarianism 101
Miencraft, Condealism, Greater Columbion, Austex
The young man should be able to take whoever he wants and the school should not dictate who you can and can't take to prom
Kings Island, The Dark Lieutenant
It's a privately-owned Catholic school and they can conduct their operations however they wish.
If the consumer doesn't like it, the consumer has other options. Nobody forced his family to enroll him in a school that is founded upon beliefs that the student does not wish to conform to.
Miencraft, Condealism, Greater Columbion, Austex, The Dark Lieutenant
What a trivial gripe.
Schools dictate a great many things that blatantly ignore the freedoms listed in the Bill of Rights. But that's okay, because minors can't think for themselves and need the state to think for them.
Miencraft, The New United States, Rateria, Greater Columbion, Lain Iwakura
I find the idea that the state should think for anyone to be repellent.
Miencraft, Rateria, Condealism, Greater Columbion
If this were for a public school, then I can understand. However, the catholic school should be able to dictate its own terms if it is private.
Miencraft, The New United States, Condealism, Greater Columbion, Austex
While I agree with your sarcastic cynical beliefs on an ideological level, it is important to note that legally the schools aren't just pulling it out of nowhere. All of that has been established by Supreme Court case law. Tinker v Des Moines, Hazelwood v Kuhlmeier, it's all there.
Condealism
That's the idea.
Why have people ceded their parenthood to the government? Why are our nation's children being forced to embrace a lifestyle of dependence on authority? Why is "our future" - as politicians call the youth - being held hostage by the state and treated like a race of subhumans?
You may be repulsed by the idea, but I have news for you: The state is already trying to think on our behalf, and in the case of millions of people, it is succeeding.
Miencraft, Kings Island, The New United States, Rateria, Austex, Lain Iwakura
I do feel sorry for this kid. However, nobody forced him to go to this school, and the issue of a dance is pretty trivial.
Miencraft, The New United States, Rateria, Condealism, Greater Columbion, Austex
Ah, yes. "In loco parentis." I believe that was the ruling to one such case. Make way; schools are the new parents.
Yes it is a Catholic school, however the highest figurehead of catholicism Pope Francis stated that more toleration needs to be shown towards homosexuals. Being a catholic myself I believe that the young man should be able to practice his religion and take who he wants to homecoming without restriction.
Rateria
I am also a practicing Roman Catholic (church every Sunday). I also think that more toleration needs to be shown towards the gay community, legalizing marriage, etc. However, in my mind, the policies of the school trump what this student wants to do, and, unfortunately, he just has to tolerate those policies.
Miencraft, The New United States, Condealism, Greater Columbion, Austex
Just as he must tolerate all of the others.
It's incredibly nearsighted to balk at sharing a hot bath with a giant carrot when the reality is you're being boiled alive. (If you'll pardon the odd metaphor.)
Miencraft, Kings Island, The New United States, Rateria
Rateria
I mean, I don't honestly understand why anyone would make such a big deal out of it, but they can run their thing the way they want to and there are plenty of other options out there.
Now, if only schools would go broke if people stopped attending them so that there's actually incentive to keep people from picking different schools.
Greater Columbion
*puts 2 cents in the bucket*
As an agnostic, I disagree with the school's decision, but as a libertarian, I support their right as a private school to run it how they see fit. Civil rights should only apply to how citizens are treated by the state. Individuals should be allowed to discriminate at their will in a private environment, even if it does make them hateful bastards.
Miencraft, The New United States, Condealism, Greater Columbion
Personally, if I have a kid, I'm going to homeschool him, or at least get him a private tutor. I reject both private schools that grind their religious views onto impressionable students and public schools who just do a secular, socialist version of that.
Any libertarian worth their money should look into homeschooling. Private schools do have the right in a libertarian society to run the way they want, but at the end of the day what's best for the kid is to be raised to be an independent thinker. It's unfortunate that so many parents don't recognize this. And in a libertarian society, the market will benefit independent thinkers over sheep, and schools that do this sort of sh!t won't have much of a leg to stand on.
Also, inb4 a thread pops up in NSG calling to ban private schools.
Miencraft, Pevvania, The New United States, Rateria, Condealism, Greater Columbion, Austex, Lain Iwakura
I wish I could do that for my kids, but sadly it just isn't possible at the moment. But I certainly encourage my children to be independent thinkers and to question everything, especially what they learn at school.
The New United States, Rateria, Condealism, Greater Columbion
Carrots and homosexuals.
They probably prefer cucumbers.
I hate failing.
Time to help Humph get ready for a debate and provide your excellent libertarian, laissez-faire opinions.
Do you support Free Trade? Why or why not?
Do you support a Flat Tax with elimination of all other taxes? Why or why not?
Should we eliminate abstinence-only sex ed classes and teach safe sex instead? Why or why not?
A few people I know have answers:
[nation=short]Pevvania[/nation] [nation=short]Muh Roads[/nation] [nation=short]Republic of Minerva[/nation]
Rateria, Greater Columbion
And if you don't have time to homeschool, you can send them to a classical education charter school! I can't remember what it is called, but they teach children the same type of information (updated of course lol) as the Founding Fathers. I will look it up and send you a link! Also, if you don't mind liberal guilt and marxist ideas being shoved down your children's throats, you could have your kid go to an international school like I did! They promote independent thinking but from a globalist view, but luckily I could think more clearly because I always challenged the teacher lol
I am in between Free Trade and Protectionism. I see the benefits and pitfalls of both and can't decide :/ I wish there was something in between that had high wages, good standards, produces a lot of jobs, had cheap goods, lots of competition and lower taxes for the citizenry. If y'all know of something, then tell me :P
I really like the idea of Flat Tax and it is definitely more fair, but the reality is that it would not be able to fill the budget with everything we have. Unless we got rid of pretty much everything, Flat tax would not be enough.
Why can't we teach both? Teach it in an anatomy type way, say how it can be conducted relatively safely, and that the best way to not get someone pregnant or catch a disease is to be abstinent. If the kids go do it after that, well there is nothing the State can do because those kids were stupid :P That's Social Darwinism folks lol
Humpheria
No, the carrot represents homophobic policies. That's why there aren't any rainbow Doritos in the stew.
Tariffs are usually bad, almost as bad as the corporate tax when it comes down to it. Wrongfully placed tariffs have destroyed nation's entire industries before, and in my mind, implementing tariffs is against the non-aggression principle that way.
Imo, protectionist policies should only be kept in a libertarian government if they are already on a nation that has a similar tariff against us. Otheriwse I support diplomatic efforts to help repeal tariffs and free trade deals.
Greater Columbion
A flat tax is enough for the Eastern European governments.
A flat tax of 23% would be more than enough to satisfy the budget needs, but only if it's applied wholly. This means we might have to cut tax credits and exemptions in some areas, which would be quite unpopular. Otherwise the US and Canada could never fund their current programs.
I feel like the LPC goes overboard with their 15% plan, it's just not realistic and it's promising their constituents a pony that they can't ever deliver without compromise.
1) Now, admittedly, I don't know very much about the details of free trade, so all I'll say is that if implemented properly, then it's a great thing to have.
2) Perhaps not all of them. Most, though, are pretty dumb. Probably just a good ol' flat income tax and a sales tax should do well enough (assuming all exemptions and everything else are completely eliminated), assuming the government knows how to money.
3) Inform kids (used loosely) on how to have sex safely, but also emphasize that the best way to not get pregnant or end up with an STD is to just not have sex in the first place. At least if we're making sure people aren't going to be stupid when they end up having sex (because odds are anyone old enough to end up in a sex ed class has already or will soon have sex) then it's their own fault when they do something stupid. You had the information and you ignored it, brah, that's on you.
Pevvania, Rateria
What region is this again?
Pevvania
Ultimately, I think trade should be used as a bargaining tool for diplomacy. Free Trade with allies and democracies, tariffs against enemies and non-democratic regimes. Also, tbh, I think free trade while giving our own companies subsidies is a good way to make your own country wealthier, even though it is at the expense of other countries. Look at Germany for example.
Miencraft, Rateria, Austex
https://youtu.be/LsKFsF2zpFM
A1. Real free Free Trade as in:
No tax or duty shall be laid on articles exported from any state. No preference shall be given by any regulation of commerce or revenue to the ports of one State over those of another: nor shall vessels bound to, or from, one State, be obliged to enter, clear, or pay duties in another. Article I, Section 9, US Constitution.
with free (free as in freedom not free products) and open (open as in anyone with a shoestring and a shingle can participate) applied by Treaty with other nations? Yes. Absolutely! Notice only 1 Paragraph needed.
The travesty of Oligarchically Managed Trade masquerading as free trade to the detriment of free and open markets like NAFTA and PPP 1,000 page monstrosity with literally a loose leaf binder edition that lets Corporations write their own laws? Bahahaha! No. No. A thousand times NO!
A2. I think the question should be, why do we have government schools?
Post self-deleted by Narland.
Errata: A2 should be A3. The laugh in A1 is a mocking jeer.
A2. No to any direct tax of the US Citizen at the National level that is not apportioned and managed by the States directly. Period. This is a power not to be entrusted to the already out of control corruption that permeates the institutions of Washington, DC. They cannot pay off their (our) debts and live within their means as it is. Once they balance the budget, pay off all our debts, reduce and simplify (if not outright eliminate all the overly convoluted laws reeking harmful unintended consequences that are already on the books) and hold those responsible for the fraudulent and larcenious (if it isn't a word it should be) mess that we are in criminally liable for their malfeasance / wanton disregard of the Law (capital L), then maybe, we can discuss it.
Hey, Libertatem. We at the Commonwealth have got an idea where we could form one supermap. I haven't take claims yet besides Northern Europe (France, Denmark, Holland, Belgium, and West Germany) I also have some people claiming Italy, Nova Scotia, and Corisca. Spain is disputed right now, but I'm compromising. We also have a one colony per nation rule to conserve space. So what do y'all think.
But... muh map!
You could help making it, if you want to. You could make the same claims, as well.
That was a joke, really.
If you would like to put me on your map, though, I really can't be put anywhere than my special archipelago that you can see on the map we've got here.
I don't think I'll participate in the making of your map, but I would like to see how it progresses.
OK. I'll find your island really quick and add you
I added your island but I have a question; how is the Spain situation suppose to work. I have claims on it, but I waited to accept cause it seemed pretty important to y'all.
Anyway, just TG me your claims.
Spain on our map is reserved for the sitting President as a perk of the office.
Do y'all still want it. It'll have to go under the name of some nation, but I can convince Lavan to just take Portugal
Why not use a map with fictional landmasses?
Like Tamriel. Dibs on the Colovian part of Cyrodiil. :P
Or Middle Earth. Or Thedas. Or Gielinor.
Rateria
I personally like using the real map. But to each his own
I never thought I'd hear that name again.
[nation=short]Baxten[/nation]:
How many states would be appropriate, if I were to claim part of the United States?
I was thinking Idaho, Utah, Arizona and Nevada. Would that be way too much?
That's good. That'll work out fine, really
The New United States
Play Old School RuneScape. It's great.
Actually, would it be possible to get this?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/State_of_Deseret,_vector_image_cropped_-_2011.svg/250px-State_of_Deseret,_vector_image_cropped_-_2011.svg.png
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/State_of_Deseret_in_comparison_with_modern_United_States,_vector_image_-_2011.svg
If it's too much of a hassle, then I'm okay with my first request. Thanks! :)
Guys, ANTIFA just took TGGR.
Screw that, I play real RuneScape.
They've got Prifddinas.
It's been a couple of days, but yeppers, they did.
OSRS had Prifddinas for a holiday event one time, actually.
And "real" RuneScape is a blight on the community. Microtransactions. Evolution of Combat. Ashdale. The crimes of "World of Runecraft" are unforgivable.
Who's side are we on? And I thought they were communists. Rnt we against communists?
We're against both of them. In short, our foes scored a point against our adversaries. Our enemies were invaded by our opponents. It has nothing to do with us.
Perhaps we should keep it that way this time. The last time we stooped to totalitarian levels, the fascists and the communists pretty much stopped exchanging blows with one another for almost a year.
Miencraft, Rateria, Greater Columbion, Austex, Lain Iwakura
At least they'll be kept busy for a while and out of our business. I always believed that we had to do nothing for the war on totalitarianism - that the totalitarians would destroy themselves. I call this the Winston Churchill strategy.
Rateria, Condealism, Greater Columbion
Played 10-8 years ago. Left when they started nerfing fun.
I doubted you until today. Now I understand it.
Anyway, one thing I like about The Red Fleet is that they take all of our joke regions and dead allies and claim them as museums.
This might seem annoying until you realize this means they're all immortalized as anticommunist war heroes. Sure, they aren't able to rebuild under the same name, but they get a pretty badass sendoff.
Miencraft, Rateria, Greater Columbion
How did they do it? I could swear TGGR had a delegate.
Greater Columbion
I dunno, they're both pretty bad for the community.
RS3 is driving a bunch of people off (though I personally remain loyal because the quests are fantastic now and combat is much better than it was), but then you've got OSRS that just causes a massive divide in the playerbase.
If anything's killing the Runescape community, it's Runescape itself. It'll die soon, guaranteed.
I just need the last quest they ever release to be called "One Last Favour" as a reference to everyone's favorite quest.
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