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Police only follow the justice system that they are held by. The ones the politicians make. Dont blame the enforcer, blame the creator of the law

Northern Prussia wrote:Still American culture is a breeding ground for gluttony and stupidity, and this is comming from an American

I strongly disagree. American culture is a melting pot of thousands of different cultures that leave the crappy parts at the door. I find that so beautiful.

Northern Prussia wrote:In other news and this will make most here happy. The American Import and Export Bank established by FDR in 1934. Has its charter up for renue in September. The US congress is seen likly to end the charter as its a corporate supporting bank. The bank is not favored by either party and is seen as a contradiction by Obama by his administration. Thats one less bank I guess.

I really, really, really hope that this happens.

Northern Prussia wrote:Police only follow the justice system that they are held by. The ones the politicians make. Dont blame the enforcer, blame the creator of the law

That is true. I'm convinced that a private police force would be much more accountable to the public, but the only problem would be that the poor would have to pay for this, since they are affected by crime more than wealthier people.

*puts on nazi tinfoil hat*

The superiority of the American race can be seen genetically. Due to an increased amount of genetic variation, the American race has in effect become superior to the old world societies in that all of the nation's best traits are breeded for while the traits that do not survive die out. In effect, the average American has the efficiency of a German, intellect of a Dutchman, sex drive of the Italians, communication skills of the British, able to hold in alcohol like the Russians, humility of the Chinese, creativity of the French, nobility of the Persians, adaptability of the Japanese, and passions of an Israeli. In effect the superior American (and Canadian) man is not only wired in culture but also in blood, inheriting only the best from their ancestors and applying it.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:*puts on nazi tinfoil hat*

The superiority of the American race can be seen genetically. Due to an increased amount of genetic variation, the American race has in effect become superior to the old world societies in that all of the nation's best traits are breeded for while the traits that do not survive die out. In effect, the average American has the efficiency of a German, intellect of a Dutchman, sex drive of the Italians, communication skills of the British, able to hold in alcohol like the Russians, humility of the Chinese, creativity of the French, nobility of the Persians, adaptability of the Japanese, and passions of an Israeli. In effect the superior American (and Canadian) man is not only wired in culture but also in blood, inheriting only the best from their ancestors and applying it.

well then

Pevvania wrote:I am dissing the police. I'm not dissing all police officers, but I'm dissing the police in general for enforcing authoritarian laws and covering up the crimes of some of their officers. My grandfather was a cop until he resigned to the overwhelming amount of corruption in the force.

I am friends with many police officers. There is corruption but that is not the fault of the officers and no reason to congratulate their murderers. You're talking about human beings, with families and hearts. Not faceless executioners of the evil machine's will.

The American race is the master race because we take the good from every culture and make one uber American culture.

Humpheria wrote:I am friends with many police officers. There is corruption but that is not the fault of the officers and no reason to congratulate their murderers. You're talking about human beings, with families and hearts. Not faceless executioners of the evil machine's will.

I know, but there needs to be some kind of a system put in place so that a) there aren't as many sh-tty laws, and b) officers are held accountable for their actions.

Pevvania wrote:I know, but there needs to be some kind of a system put in place so that a) there aren't as many sh-tty laws, and b) officers are held accountable for their actions.

The actions of few define the view of all.

Pevvania wrote:I am dissing the police. I'm not dissing all police officers, but I'm dissing the police in general for enforcing authoritarian laws and covering up the crimes of some of their officers. My grandfather was a cop until he resigned to the overwhelming amount of corruption in the force.

You can't hold the actions of a few corrupt cops as a general opinion of them.

If I could put my two cents in on this police business, seeing as how I've had more than my fair share of run ins with our friends with badges the latest being less than 30 mins ago. Over the last year and some odd months, I waited to get my license, I have been stopped by police for a host of issues ranging from "trespassing" to "reckless driving" and most recently "speeding without proof of insurance and lack of a front plate" but every time I've been let off with a warning. Several officers have cited their not in the business to wreck the lives of the youth, and I believe that. I honestly believe that most officers sign up for the right reasons and given the opportunity will do the "right" thing.

That being said, their very employment is a violation of the NAP and they enforce arbitrary rules dictated by the state. I do not hate them for this rather I sympathize with them. They don't understand that serving the state is not the same as serving your community . Wanton violence against police is both idiotic and less than helpful to the liberty movement. If you really want to make a change talk to officers about reality or protest your treatment, because they're just going to act like cogs otherwise, not out of sadism, but rather some misplaced since of duty.

Besides are you not European? If so that would explain it

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Northern Prussia wrote:Police only follow the justice system that they are held by. The ones the politicians make. Dont blame the enforcer, blame the creator of the law

No. These politicians don't tell them to beat people. Don't tell them to do any of the things our police do.

The fault lies with the fact that some police ARE JUST BAD PEOPLE.

Also. Lack stop committing crimes....

It's only your duty to disobey unjust laws. Not laws like that.

Albenia wrote:Also. Lack stop committing crimes....

Crimes against the fed is not a crime. ;)

AGORA! ANARCHY ACTION! A3!

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Crimes against the fed is not a crime. ;)

AGORA! ANARCHY ACTION! A3!

Reckless Driving?

Trespassing? It's a crime. Deal with it.

Albenia wrote:Also. Lack stop committing crimes....

It's not a crime without a victim

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Crimes against the fed is not a crime. ;)

AGORA! ANARCHY ACTION! A3!

TO THE STREETS!

Just imagine all the criminals that exist in nationstates.

Hehehehe I am a teen smoking weeeeeeeed huehuehue who's gonna stop me?

Albenia wrote:Reckless Driving?

Trespassing? It's a crime. Deal with it.

"Reckless driving" as in I had four people jump out of my car in a culdesac nerf guns blazing

You can't trespass on public property. If I'm forced to pay for it you had best believe I'll use it when I damn well please

Lack There Of wrote:It's not a crime without a victim

TO THE STREETS!

Those were crimes

Reckless Driving is bad....

Trespassing is bad....

Speeding without insurance or front plate is ridiculous m

There are laws meant to keep people/property safe. I suggest following themm

Lack There Of wrote:"Reckless driving" as in I had four people jump out of my car in a culdesac nerf guns blazing

You can't trespass on public property. If I'm forced to pay for it you had best believe I'll use it when I damn well please

I'm not inclined to Believe the first one...

You can in fact trespass. If it is government property then it can be made ILLEGAL to go there.

Get over it. Seriously. You sound like an obnoxious "Anarchic" Teenager.

Albenia wrote:Those were crimes

Reckless Driving is bad....

Trespassing is bad....

Speeding without insurance or front plate is ridiculous m

There are laws meant to keep people/property safe. I suggest following themm

I have insurance and a front plate, they just weren't with me at the moment.

Lack There Of wrote:I have insurance and a front plate, they just weren't with me at the moment.

Well they have to be with you.....That's the law

Albenia wrote:I'm not inclined to Believe the first one...

You can in fact trespass. If it is government property then it can be made ILLEGAL to go there.

Get over it. Seriously. You sound like an obnoxious "Anarchic" Teenager.

You can believe what ever you want to believe.

I'm well aware the state can say it's "illegal" to go on "their" property

And I'll have you know I'm a professional "anarchic " teenager, and that's why I only receive warnings

So, is TTA's trial ever going to happen, or naw?

What a productive board term guys

Godisdead wrote:So, is TTA's trial ever going to happen, or naw?

Let's just drop the trial. That was long ago.

How about we just vote on whether or not he should be pardoned like last time? Let the people decide.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:How about we just vote on whether or not he should be pardoned like last time? Let the people decide.

*sings* I've been saying that for f*cking ever*/sings*

Hallo Island wrote:What a productive board term guys

It's hasn't even been in session for a week.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:How about we just vote on whether or not he should be pardoned like last time? Let the people decide.

That power only lies in the executive.

Hallo Island wrote:What a productive board term guys

The board set up all the necessary parts, it's in the judge "court"

If you see an issue you want addressed, no ones stopping you

Lack There Of wrote:The board set up all the necessary parts, it's in the judge "court"

If you see an issue you want addressed, no ones stopping you

How about the trial hmm

Humpheria wrote:It's hasn't even been in session for a week.

That power only lies in the executive.

So couldn't executive create that, I mean it was a recent poll the nation took part in.

Hallo Island wrote:How about the trial hmm

Talk to the judge, he's the one in charge if it

Hallo Island wrote:How about the trial hmm

Up to Mien, not the Board. The trial will start when the judge calls to order, the Board can't do anything. If you're going to insult the Board, at least try to make sure it is actually the Board's fault. I've said it is up to Mien a billion times.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:So couldn't executive create that, I mean it was a recent poll the nation took part in.

Pev said he wanted to test the judicial system.

Godisdead wrote:So, is TTA's trial ever going to happen, or naw?

It's up to Judge Miencraft. But I think it'd be better to do it after AAPPEAL has passed.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:So couldn't executive create that, I mean it was a recent poll the nation took part in.

I could pardon him. But I've done it before and I want to see the people bring TTA back to the region, not the government.

We the people want him back so

You the nation of Hallo Island wants him back. You do not choose the voice of the other respective nations.

Pevvania wrote:It's up to Judge Miencraft. But I think it'd be better to do it after AAPPEAL has passed.

This.

Soon as that poll ends, I'll set a date.

Northern Prussia wrote:You the nation of Hallo Island wants him back. You do not choose the voice of the other respective nations.

Well, the vote we did that concluded the majority of people here want him back chooses the voice of the people.

Pevvania wrote:I could pardon him. But I've done it before and I want to see the people bring TTA back to the region, not the government.

So why not let us vote?

RWN and Hallo clearly don't understand. If Pev pardons him, that will set the precedent of the President having full pardoning power and it will not give the Court any power. If TTA goes to trial and is granted pardon, it will set the legal precedent of the Court having that power, thus giving more than one option for pardoning. Or would you guys prefer the President have sole pardoning power?

And we all know he is guilty, he's confessed. This is over good behavior, it wouldn't be ethical for the President to unilaterally pardon him.

[quote=humpheria;6896062]RWN and Hallo clearly don't understand. If Pev pardons him, that will set the precedent of the President having full pardoning power and it will not give the Court any power. If TTA goes to trial and is granted pardon, it will set the legal precedent of the Court having that power, thus giving more than one option for pardoning. Or would you guys prefer the President have sole pardoning power?[/quote

I am not asking that Pevv just to pardon him

Miencraft wrote:This.

Soon as that poll ends, I'll set a date.

But you wouldn't be judge after that. The Board would hold the power of organising the appeal.

Humpheria wrote:RWN and Hallo clearly don't understand. If Pev pardons him, that will set the precedent of the President having full pardoning power and it will not give the Court any power. If TTA goes to trial and is granted pardon, it will set the legal precedent of the Court having that power, thus giving more than one option for pardoning. Or would you guys prefer the President have sole pardoning power?

This, this, this.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:I am not asking that Pevv just to pardon him

That is what you're asking him. The House can't pardon someone, so a referenda would be for Pev to pardon. Which would give the Presidential office one more legal instance to expand the power of itself.

Humpy, you very well know that I don't believe in the expansion of too much power, I was just trying to suggest a way in which maybe the people could decide, but if the court wants to handle it then they can handle it.

Uh hell no. The Government is not pardoning me without the people's thoughts. So I refuse a presidential pardon without the court and trial.

However I'd prefer the decision be left up to not just the court but everyone in the region.

Like the changes to APPEAL Pev.

Just fyi, I never commented on your remark of APPEAL being lazily written. Such was not the case, I wrote the original draft so that it would coincide with the current court system, just like anywhere else. It didn't occur to me there was supposed to be a separate judicial system specifically for appeals.

Lack There Of wrote:You can believe what ever you want to believe.

I'm well aware the state can say it's "illegal" to go on "their" property

And I'll have you know I'm a professional "anarchic " teenager, and that's why I only receive warnings

Professional Anarchist?

That's a fun term. I'm going to start using it.

Pevvania wrote:I could pardon him. But I've done it before and I want to see the people bring TTA back to the region, not the government.

SAME!

Northern Prussia wrote:You the nation of Hallo Island wants him back. You do not choose the voice of the other respective nations.

Exactly.

We all know that's my job.....hahaha joking.

Humpheria wrote:RWN and Hallo clearly don't understand. If Pev pardons him, that will set the precedent of the President having full pardoning power and it will not give the Court any power. If TTA goes to trial and is granted pardon, it will set the legal precedent of the Court having that power, thus giving more than one option for pardoning. Or would you guys prefer the President have sole pardoning power?

Yeah. You don't need the president having power over courts in this case. Because then they can pardon based on favoritism

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Remind me to not post on the RMB on weekends. I can't even.

Miencraft wrote:Remind me to not post on the RMB on weekends. I can't even.

What's wrong?

I swear I must be going ancap..

I went to a parade for the fourth of July here in my little town.. they had the county sheriff and the state police do these military drill sergeant type of marching.. ya know "left left left right left" kind of deals (lol, best way to describe it that I can think of). Well, while everyone was oooing and ahhing I'm sitting there thinking "great, just another display of power by our glorious state". I guess I can't enjoy parades anymore

#Libertarianproblems

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=sneaky_khalite_spies/detail=factbook/id=237922

When Orwellian totalitarians write about control it ends up sounding like Libertarians writing about freedoms :3

Muh Roads wrote:I swear I must be going ancap..

I went to a parade for the fourth of July here in my little town.. they had the county sheriff and the state police do these military drill sergeant type of marching.. ya know "left left left right left" kind of deals (lol, best way to describe it that I can think of). Well, while everyone was oooing and ahhing I'm sitting there thinking "great, just another display of power by our glorious state". I guess I can't enjoy parades anymore

#Libertarianproblems

*chuckles an evil statist laugh*

Don't forget to never attend a public school, hospital, transport or other facility. That would be contributing to their statistics that you guys need those.

Ya gotta walk the walk if you talk the talk! ;) :P X)

Pax Osca wrote:http://www.nationstates.net/nation=sneaky_khalite_spies/detail=factbook/id=237922

When Orwellian totalitarians write about control it ends up sounding like Libertarians writing about freedoms :3

*chuckles an evil statist laugh*

Don't forget to never attend a public school, hospital, transport or other facility. That would be contributing to their statistics that you guys need those.

Ya gotta walk the walk if you talk the talk! ;) :P X)

In other news, Karl Marx was a complete hypocrite because he bought things and owned property

Pevvania wrote:In other news, Karl Marx was a complete hypocrite because he bought things and owned property

Indeed he was, the scumbag! :3

Pax Osca wrote:http://www.nationstates.net/nation=sneaky_khalite_spies/detail=factbook/id=237922

When Orwellian totalitarians write about control it ends up sounding like Libertarians writing about freedoms :3

*chuckles an evil statist laugh*

Don't forget to never attend a public school, hospital, transport or other facility. That would be contributing to their statistics that you guys need those.

Ya gotta walk the walk if you talk the talk! ;) :P X)

Well, I was homeschooled through high school. But I didn't even know what Libertarianism was about at the time, thanks to public schooling I was a bona-fide statist until I took a Gary Johnson to the knee. Private insurance and hospital, don't see how this one counts? Can't say I know enough about the industry though.

Transport, never. Jeep on :D

Policing and emergency services, we are in a society where you can't get away with not calling them in the event of an emergency unfortunately. However I've only ever called 911 maybe twice in my life.

Muh Roads wrote:Like the changes to APPEAL Pev.

Just fyi, I never commented on your remark of APPEAL being lazily written. Such was not the case, I wrote the original draft so that it would coincide with the current court system, just like anywhere else. It didn't occur to me there was supposed to be a separate judicial system specifically for appeals.

I know, Roads. It was probably my fault for not clarifying the sort of things I wanted in the first place.

Pax Osca wrote:http://www.nationstates.net/nation=sneaky_khalite_spies/detail=factbook/id=237922

When Orwellian totalitarians write about control it ends up sounding like Libertarians writing about freedoms :3

*chuckles an evil statist laugh*

Don't forget to never attend a public school, hospital, transport or other facility. That would be contributing to their statistics that you guys need those.

Ya gotta walk the walk if you talk the talk! ;) :P X)

Utilising "public services" would not be inconsistent for libertarians, because our money is expropriated to create those services. We'd simply be taking back what's been stolen from us.

Pevvania wrote:I know, Roads. It was probably my fault for not clarifying the sort of things I wanted in the first place.

Nah, no pointed fingers. Point is, the act is improved now and we're better for it. 'Tatem

So I learned how to mod Victoria 2 somewhat...

Now I need to make a nation for the game and my life will be complete.

What would the nation be called? The Holy Mormon Empire?

News in the Empire. Stofan grassyson has founded The Gay Nationalist Party. What will the platform of that party be?

Pax Osca wrote:Don't forget to never attend a public school, hospital, transport or other facility. That would be contributing to their statistics that you guys need those.

I seldom use the public services you speak of (even though Pev's right about taking back what's ours), except for school. In the case of public school, believe me - I sincerely wish I hadn't.

The Amarican Empire wrote:What would the nation be called? The Holy Mormon Empire?

No..I'm trying to use a Nationstates Nation to start off so I have a basic overview.

The Amarican Empire wrote:What would the nation be called? The Holy Mormon Empire?

That's Deseret....

The Amarican Empire wrote:News in the Empire. Stofan grassyson has founded The Gay Nationalist Party. What will the platform of that party be?

-Gay Equality

-Nationalism...

The Amarican Empire wrote:News in the Empire. Stofan grassyson has founded The Gay Nationalist Party. What will the platform of that party be?

What kind of platform? Well, it would be kind of high as to give the populace a low-angle (and thus patriotic) view of what they have to say, and I would imagine it either be colored pink, have rainbow hues in the design, or both.

/extremelybadpun

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_amarican_empire/detail=factbook/id=276864

Party Ideas for Libertatem.

By: Amarican Empire

The Libertatem Nazi Party_Nazism

Libertatem First Committee-Libertatem before others

Silver legion of Libertatem- Fascism

The Libertatem Communist Party -Stalinism

The Socialist Party -Democratic Socialism

The Progressive Party- Market Liberalism

The Federalist Party- big governmentÂ

I can agree with the Progressive Party and Libertatem First Committee

I like none of those, but if these parties existed, I would avoid wiping Libertatem First, Socialist Party, and Progressive Party off the face of the map. The rest are too coercive to be left alive...

I love the Libertarian Communist party and how it practices Stalinism.

Back from four hours of ass-kicking on the NSG forums. Glad to see that AAPPEAL is progressing nicely. Heads-up, [nation=short]Hallo Island[/nation] - the bill will revoke your role as People's Attorney, as having this position in the Board could potentially create a conflict of interest.

Written a new piece - 'How Ronald Reagan destroyed the Soviet Union'. http://www.nationstates.net/nation=pevvania/detail=factbook/id=276869

I actually learnt a lot from researching for this. His role in tanking the USSR's economy is seldom discussed. Today, we either hear claims from conservatives that he bankrupted the Soviet Union or liberal dismissals of any possible role he could've had. The truth is far more complex than that.

That's a pretty detailed essay pev good job.

The Amarican Empire wrote:That's a pretty detailed essay pev good job.

Thank you, Amarican.

After AAPPEAL has passed, I will be sending the Board the Communications Deregulation Act, which can be found in my factbooks. I could easily allow other regions to post on Libertatem's RMB by executive order, but I feel that this is a decision best made in the hands of the Board.

Anyone want to start editing this region's page on NSWiki?

Pevvania wrote:Anyone want to start editing this region's page on NSWiki?

...If I could set up an Account I could....

Pevvania wrote:Anyone want to start editing this region's page on NSWiki?

I can toss some basic information there if you'd like.

Also, do keep in mind, Pev, the Map is in no way finished, so I'd prefer it be kept in a Factbook until there's no more land to distribute.

Miencraft wrote:I can toss some basic information there if you'd like.

Also, do keep in mind, Pev, the Map is in no way finished, so I'd prefer it be kept in a Factbook until there's no more land to distribute.

That'll take a while, but alright. When can we start invading other countries again?

Pevvania wrote:That'll take a while, but alright. When can we start invading other countries again?

I'm currently working on finalizing a new RP. I'm going out-of-state next Monday, so I hope to have it out before then, and then I'll mostly be watching in the background throughout the rest of this month and a bit of August.

Miencraft wrote:I'm currently working on finalizing a new RP. I'm going out-of-state next Monday, so I hope to have it out before then, and then I'll mostly be watching in the background throughout the rest of this month and a bit of August.

Cool.

Also, Miencraft, I'd like to make a recommendation on the whole trial thing. I think we should process TTA's appeal in accordance with the AAPPEAL Act, but the trial formation that's already been set should remain in place to try [nation=short]Einsiev[/nation] after TTA has been processed. The Department of Justice will be filing charges against him for treason.

Hey whose the guy here who knows how to mod Victoria 2?

Albenia wrote:Hey whose the guy here who knows how to mod Victoria 2?

I'd assume it'd be similar to EU4, seeing as how they're both Paradox.

So, naturally, a quick Google search should be sufficient. :P

But, seriously, I can send you the files I used for Formable Miencraft in EU4 and see if that helps.

Okay, so maybe it is just me, but I find the situation in which Hispanic children are being sent over the boarder to be quite sickening. Let's forget about our stance on immigration for a moment, does it bother anyone else that these selfish parents are putting their child's life in danger? They could drown crossing the Rio Grande, they could be sold into prostitution, or they could die of dehydration. So our government is forced to care for these children because their parents are selfish and put their children's well-being in danger. Does that happen to bother anyone else? Because it bothers the hell out of me.

Miencraft wrote:I'd assume it'd be similar to EU4, seeing as how they're both Paradox.

So, naturally, a quick Google search should be sufficient. :P

But, seriously, I can send you the files I used for Formable Miencraft in EU4 and see if that helps.

sure...

I tried modding some parties in Victoria 2 for Deseret....but then the game loading got stuck on loading Databases.

*cough*Pev, link to map factbook please.

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=miencraft/detail=factbook/id=251537

One more day until I can telegram again!

Humpheria wrote:One more day until I can telegram again!

Will you do a victory dance when you can?

How can the gold standard be justified? Everyone seems to laugh at the concept...

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Okay, so maybe it is just me, but I find the situation in which Hispanic children are being sent over the boarder to be quite sickening. Let's forget about our stance on immigration for a moment, does it bother anyone else that these selfish parents are putting their child's life in danger? They could drown crossing the Rio Grande, they could be sold into prostitution, or they could die of dehydration. So our government is forced to care for these children because their parents are selfish and put their children's well-being in danger. Does that happen to bother anyone else? Because it bothers the hell out of me.

I agree, it's horrible. Those parents should be more responsible than this.

Humpheria wrote:One more day until I can telegram again!

You might have to let the mods know that. I don't think they put a specific time limit on telegram/RMB bans.

Miencraft wrote:*cough*Pev, link to map factbook please.

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=miencraft/detail=factbook/id=251537

You want me to put it in the WFE?

Republic Of Minerva wrote:How can the gold standard be justified? Everyone seems to laugh at the concept...

It is a noninflationary, stable currency that makes it difficult for the government to control monetary policy, which by extension encourages peace. The greatest advantage of fiat money is that it easily enables war financing. A gold-backed currency means that the amount of money in an economy is limited by the national supply of gold. This is good because it creates stable banking systems that must always redeem their customers for the capital they put in the bank, so that in times of economic crisis everyone doesn't lose their savings.

http://mises.org/Literature has hundreds of FREE libertarian books available to read online. This is a BIG deal, guys!

Pevvania wrote:http://mises.org/Literature has hundreds of FREE libertarian books available to read online. This is a BIG deal, guys!

....Free?

Dang it. It's too expensive.

Pevvania wrote:You want me to put it in the WFE?

Aye, the way it was earlier, with the link to "Map".

Besides, the factbook has instructions pertaining to the map itself, and since I'm the one doing upkeep on it it's best people know where to get their spots up until I stop offering that service.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:How can the gold standard be justified? Everyone seems to laugh at the concept...

Are you serious? Basically look at what Pev said, and just know that it actually gives currency real value and seeing as how much gold the US has today, it would really work wonders in today's society. But with the Fed Reserve right now, and how they basically control this country, I doubt we'll ever see the beauty of the gold standard again.

Fun Fact: 2 of the biggest presidential advocates for the removal of the Fed Reserve, Abraham Lincoln and JFK, were assassinated. Coincidence? I THINK NOT.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:Are you serious? Basically look at what Pev said, and just know that it actually gives currency real value and seeing as how much gold the US has today, it would really work wonders in today's society. But with the Fed Reserve right now, and how they basically control this country, I doubt we'll ever see the beauty of the gold standard again.

Fun Fact: 2 of the biggest presidential advocates for the removal of the Fed Reserve, Abraham Lincoln and JFK, were assassinated. Coincidence? I THINK NOT.

Conspiracy time: With RRRG

This week: The Federal Reserve Advocates kill off Presidents.

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