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Pencil me down as a citizen.

If you won't do that, just telegram me the thingy to fill out once you have it ready.

I just made it to Chicago folks so ill have the application done tonight.

What's this stuff about citizenship?

He says citizens under the old system don't count.

I was not prepared for this, but I suppose I could register with the new system.

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=muh_roads/detail=factbook/id=228212

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:He says citizens under the old system don't count.

I was not prepared for this, but I suppose I could register with the new system.

There was never any form of citizenship in the first place.

Pevvania wrote:Will do. It seems you like a lot of the same Facebook pages that I do :P

Sure do! But I can't remember if it was liberty doll or libertarian girl I unliked because she always posted updates from some conservative propaganda site like gopthedailydose or something similar.

Muh Roads wrote:Sure do! But I can't remember if it was liberty doll or libertarian girl I unliked because she always posted updates from some conservative propaganda site like gopthedailydose or something similar.

That must have been Liberty Doll. Libertarian Girl is great, and she posts some really insightful statuses. But I don't like 'Lady Libertarian' - she has this weird obsession with nudism and seems to hold herself in quite a high regard. I'm glad she's closing down her page.

I sometimes take a look at Being Liberal for a laugh.

I think I'll close the vote for FRAUD a little early, as it looks like we won't be getting any more votes and a decisive outcome has been reached.

Final vote

Managers: 3/3

Board: 4/5

House: 6/8

Congratulations, [nation=short]Humpheria[/nation]. You've won your first major legislative victory.

I have now signed the FRAUD Act into law.

Pevvania wrote:That must have been Liberty Doll. Libertarian Girl is great, and she posts some really insightful statuses. But I don't like 'Lady Libertarian' - she has this weird obsession with nudism and seems to hold herself in quite a high regard. I'm glad she's closing down her page.

I sometimes take a look at Being Liberal for a laugh.

I do believe your right.

Lady Libertarian's brand of nudism just seems to extend to taking off her clothes in national parks.. lol

Hey, if people want to be naked in the middle of Time Square, then sure go for it.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Hey, if people want to be naked in the middle of Time Square, then sure go for it.

I concur , if you're offended look away.

Im not saying im opposed, I just think her approach is odd.

I think that it is ridiculous that we live in a society where the governments tell us what to wear. If you want to wear nothing and be a natural human being who cares? Why is every government afraid of the human form? Nudism should be legal everywhere.

I'm not sure about nudism. Personally I'd rather not have someone else's junk in my view, but I guess it's quite arbitrary for a government to put a cultural blanket above all communities and dictate an individual's attire.

I say we leave it up to the localities.

Pevvania wrote:I say we leave it up to the localities.

Indeed.

Does anyone here support the concept of 'citizen's rights', or are most of you Lockeans?

Pevvania wrote:Does anyone here support the concept of 'citizen's rights', or are most of you Lockeans?

The only true category of "rights" is human rights. As we are all born sovereign individuals we are all entitled to the same rights. Any other label is arbitrary and most likely assigned to desperate groups of people and further secure the power of the state.

Pevvania wrote:Does anyone here support the concept of 'citizen's rights', or are most of you Lockeans?

John Locke's labor theory of property which says that whilst individuals have a right to homestead private property from nature by working on it they can do so only "...at least where there is enough, and as good, left in common for others".

It's not the exact worst policy. I do believe in Citizens Right's, but the Policy isn't a bad one.

I posted a poll here:

http://www.nationstates.net/region=antista

I have found answering any of those polls to be hard.

I guess. Libertarian Socialist would be closest.

Hello, Libertatem! I ask you this question: crumpets or toast?

Pevvania wrote:Hello, Libertatem! I ask you this question: crumpets or toast?

Toast!

Just...bagels. I mean, they're better with butter or cream cheese, but I could eat them plain.

Im in the Hershey store in Chicago.. not as amazing as I expected

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Just...bagels. I mean, they're better with butter or cream cheese, but I could eat them plain.

Gotta have 'em with Nutella and milk.

Muh Roads wrote:Im in the Hershey store in Chicago.. not as amazing as I expected

I've never been a fan of Hershey's. Doesn't taste too good.

Onion bagels with cream cheese :3

Muh Roads wrote:Corn bread lol

This guy gets it

Reading The Ethics of Liberty by Murray Rothbard right now. It's an absolutely brilliant book, and seems to be pushing me further towards voluntaryism.

Pevvania wrote:Hello, Libertatem! I ask you this question: crumpets or toast?

Uhhh... what's a crumpet?

Humpheria wrote:Uhhh... what's a crumpet?

Wikipedia: a crumpet is a griddle cake made from flour and yeast. It is eaten mainly in the United Kingdom.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/38/Buttered_crumpet2.jpg

Yeah... America, bro.

I hereby announce my candidacy for seat 5 as the RLP candidate.

Pevvania wrote:Wikipedia: a crumpet is a griddle cake made from flour and yeast. It is eaten mainly in the United Kingdom.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/38/Buttered_crumpet2.jpg

Yay! British stuff.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I hereby announce my candidacy for seat 5 as the RLP candidate.

We're running for seat 5? When and who?

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I hereby announce my candidacy for seat 5 as the RLP candidate.

The Reaganist Libertarian Party fully supports Minerva's bid for the Board, seeing him as a great candidate with significant experience in the military and in other aspects of this region's affairs. We sincerely hope that he succeeds, and recommend to all voters that, come the 25th, they will elect Minerva to Seat 5.

I've outlined an exhaustively researched US budget plan here: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=286788

Comments are welcome.

Who all is running for seat 5?

Pevvania wrote:I've outlined an exhaustively researched US budget plan here: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=286788

Comments are welcome.

I'll read in a minute.

Pevvania wrote:I've never been a fan of Hershey's. Doesn't taste too good.

Your British is showing lol. Cadburys fan? I like dairy milk.. the real kind I got from Ireland when I visited.. the dairy milk they make here is not even close.

Oh, and could you explain Yorkie bars that are evidently not for girls and the point of aero chocolate while your at it lol

Muh Roads wrote:Your British is showing lol. Cadburys fan? I like dairy milk.. the real kind I got from Ireland when I visited.. the dairy milk they make here is not even close.

Oh, and could you explain Yorkie bars that are evidently not for girls and the point of aero chocolate while your at it lol

Cadbury cream eggs are delicious!!!

Just a reminder; join the Anti-Corporatist Party! Our President is an honorary member by his own admission, and it is the primary party of choice for two government officials - one Managerial and one Board position.

You know our platform already (it's pretty much in the name), so...advertisement over.

Muh Roads wrote:Your British is showing lol. Cadburys fan? I like dairy milk.. the real kind I got from Ireland when I visited.. the dairy milk they make here is not even close.

Oh, and could you explain Yorkie bars that are evidently not for girls and the point of aero chocolate while your at it lol

Don't get me wrong, American food is one of the top three reasons I want to move back there for good, but there are only one or two things in my mind that the UK do better. Britain is the king of pies. The king.

Some Cadbury's is pretty good, but I'm primarily a Yorkie man.

And I'm not British, I'm Aussie ;)

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:Cadbury cream eggs are delicious!!!

Cream eggs... are sickening.

The Time Alliance wrote:Who all is running for seat 5?

So far, just Alchandria for reelection and Minerva, who is challenging him.

The Time Alliance wrote:We're running for seat 5? When and who?

Ha... ha... I get it. You're funny.

I'll run for Seat 5.

Einsiev wrote:I'll run for Seat 5.

Under what party?

Why is everyone after seat 5?

Pevvania wrote:Don't get me wrong, American food is one of the top three reasons I want to move back there for good, but there are only one or two things in my mind that the UK do better. Britain is the king of pies. The king.

Some Cadbury's is pretty good, but I'm primarily a Yorkie man.

And I'm not British, I'm Aussie

Blah, sorry. Gonna have to challenge the pie thing, at least as far as apple goes.. lol

Muh Roads wrote:Why is everyone after seat 5?

I was wondering the same thing

Pevvania wrote:

Cream eggs... are sickening.

How dare you!

Humpheria wrote:Ha... ha... I get it. You're funny.

What?

Pevvania wrote:Under what party?

Must we be forced to run for Parties.

And screw it. Third Times a charm. Lets go. I'm running.

The Time Alliance wrote:What?

'Cause... 'cause... ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

The Time Alliance wrote:Must we be forced to run for Parties.

And screw it. Third Times a charm. Lets go. I'm running.

No, you can run as an independent. Here we go again.

The Time Alliance wrote:

And screw it. Third Times a charm. Lets go. I'm running.

I question the ability of one nation to run for multiple offices simultaneously.

Humpheria wrote:'Cause... 'cause... ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

No, you can run as an independent. Here we go again.

Mmk.

Lack There Of wrote:I question the ability of one nation to run for multiple offices simultaneously.

... Point taken. I won't run this time.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I hereby announce my candidacy for seat 5 as the RLP candidate.

Einsiev wrote:I'll run for Seat 5.

The Time Alliance wrote:What? Must we be forced to run for Parties.

And screw it. Third Times a charm. Lets go. I'm running.

*Growls violently*

The Time Alliance wrote:Mmk.... Point taken. I won't run this time.

Growls 1/3 less violently.

I'm running for seat one.

If anybody has any empty conquered communist regions I could borrow for a weekend, tg me. It'll be fun.

Alchandria wrote:*Growls violently*

We just had elections for Seat 5. We shouldn't have another when it hasn't even been a month.

Guys.

Guys.

Could one of you looking to get onto the board please run for seat four?

I don't like my guaranteed slot every term, I want to compete. Getting a bit rusty actually.

In other news: Join ACOP.

Pevvania wrote:Under what party?

My own party really. The Imperial Conservative party. Description coming soon...

Miencraft wrote:Guys.

Guys.

Could one of you looking to get onto the board please run for seat four?

I don't like my guaranteed slot every term, I want to compete. Getting a bit rusty actually.

All you guys running. Run for Seat 4.

Miencraft wrote:In other news: Join ACOP.

Whilst your at it. Check out the Democratic-Republican Party.

Einsiev wrote:My own party really. The Imperial Conservative party. Description coming soon...

Oh boy. New party.

The Time Alliance wrote:Oh boy. New party.

Did you say party?

I'll go get the cake.

Oh. Wait a minute...

*Growling subsides in hope of cake.*

Alchandria wrote:*Growling subsides in hope of cake.*

Gosh fricken Pinkie Pie over here.

Angry. Party mentioned. Happy.

If anyone wants to do a little side raid on a moderate sized region, please telegram me (need at least 4 people).

Republic Of Minerva wrote:If anyone wants to do a little side raid on a moderate sized region, please telegram me (need at least 4 people).

What region.

Why?

What would this region gain?

What did they do?

The Time Alliance wrote:What region.

Why?

What would this region gain?

What did they do?

Just about done with you. Remember this is a game. Game- n. a form of sport or competitive activity that one does for amusement and joy.

He wants to amuse and emjoy by playing a competitive strategy game. Why do you insist on playing this game if you don't agree with it?

On an unrelated note. Remember guys, elections aren't for a couple weeks.

"Just about done with you" - joke "everything else" - not joke

The Time Alliance wrote:What region.

Why?

What would this region gain?

What did they do?

1.) I am not dumb enough to say the name on the RMB

2.) Not telling

3.) Benevolent Dictators and a cool flag

4.) Be communists, have embassies with North Korea, be an easy target for such a large region

Republic Of Minerva wrote:1.) I am not dumb enough to say the name on the RMB

2.) Not telling

3.) Benevolent Dictators and a cool flag

4.) Be communists, have embassies with North Korea, be an easy target for such a large region

A cool flag?

HECK! I'M IN!

Humpheria wrote:Just about done with you. Remember this is a game. Game- n. a form of sport or competitive activity that one does for amusement and joy.

He wants to amuse and emjoy by playing a competitive strategy game. Why do you insist on playing this game if you don't agree with it?

On an unrelated note. Remember guys, elections aren't for a couple weeks.

Video Games are serious matters.

Competitive strategy game? Say good idea. Anyone here got Civ 5 or HoI 3?I'm open this Saturday.

I am still not sure if North Korea is actually serious about their attitude North Korea, or this is one giant inside joke on their part...

Lack There Of wrote:I question the ability of one nation to run for multiple offices simultaneously.

The Board Elections are later this month and the Presidential Election is next month.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I am still not sure if North Korea is actually serious about their attitude North Korea, or this is one giant inside joke on their part...

To them, Nazism is evil, unless it's done under the guise of Communism.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I am still not sure if North Korea is actually serious about their attitude North Korea, or this is one giant inside joke on their part...

Most people don't have their nation reflect real views.

Guys, it is Alchandria.

LOOK AT THIS PUPPET. IMAGINE THE FUN WE COULD HAVE WITH THIS.

I would totally play civ 5 with you but I only have the cracked version :(

I'd totally play Civ5 but I have Civ4.

I need to get up to date.

Le Pasionaria wrote:Guys, it is Alchandria.

LOOK AT THIS PUPPET. IMAGINE THE FUN WE COULD HAVE WITH THIS.

Is it Socialist or Communist?

Muh Roads wrote:I would totally play civ 5 with you but I only have the cracked version :(

Miencraft wrote:I'd totally play Civ5 but I have Civ4.

I need to get up to date.

Darn.

The Time Alliance wrote:Is it Socialist or Communist?

That isn't the point.

Le Pasionaria wrote:Guys, it is Alchandria.

LOOK AT THIS PUPPET. IMAGINE THE FUN WE COULD HAVE WITH THIS.

I'd be careful. It's against the rules to impersonate another nation, although I'm unsure of the specifics of that rule.

Le Pasionaria wrote:That isn't the point.

Well. I'm checking before the Socialist nation bans freedom.

Pevvania wrote:I'd be careful. It's against the rules to impersonate another nation, although I'm unsure of the specifics of that rule.

Ah, but la pasionara is no longer a nation.

Le Pasionaria wrote:Ah, but la pasionara is no longer a nation.

Who?

Pev is right. People have gotten banned for impersonating DEATed nations before, and even if it is not illegal, the trolling is probably not a better idea.

We could do an Rp in which we burn an effigy of la pasionaria.

Le Pasionaria wrote:We could do an Rp in which we burn an effigy of la pasionaria.

This would be a pointless exercise that would merely further glorify him in the eyes of the fanatics that admire him. It's clear that we didn't like him or his hypocritical activities, but it doesn't mean we should show everybody in this way.

Le Pasionaria wrote:We could do an Rp in which we burn an effigy of la pasionaria.

No. Don't impersonate him.

Sheesh, as a long-time Libertatem resident I've got more beef with the tyrants than most, but I still wouldn't want to make a puppet nation that practically wears their skin and ruins their reputations. Just too weird.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Sheesh, as a long-time Libertatem resident I've got more beef with the tyrants than most, but I still wouldn't want to make a puppet nation that practically wears their skin and ruins their reputations. Just too weird.

It even verges on petty.

Thank you to whoever recruited the two new arrivals, by the way.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:...Uh oh.

What's that supposed to mean

Lack There Of wrote:What's that supposed to mean

One of them I don't recognize, and the other I don't trust.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:One of them I don't recognize, and the other I don't trust.

Their names...

We should check them out real fast.

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