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Miksii wrote:If with "gay" you mean giving the largest amount of people a chance at a good life, than yeah it's hella gay my dude.

Please gaysplain this to an Icelander who lived in Denmark aka me

I have my problems with social democracy or democratic “socialism” (it’s not socialism) that I could air out in a long winded essay, but you know, I’m not going to pick a fight with one of the only other people in this region with enough guts to even say that Marx had some good ideas.

Miksii

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Miksii wrote:If only all people just got a mandatory year of sociology. The world would be a better place. :)

I got a semester, but I've also had political theory, American Politics, Comparative Politics, Intro to Philosophy, and Intro to Ethics, FAR from an expert on any of those topics, but it's fair enough to say the only reason one would come out of those with a positive view of Marx is because of ideologue professors.

The standard view in those classes in terms of economics is "Marx was basically right, but people were too mean about it, oh and also, that, plus colonialism." College manufactures SocDems. Even a Liberal will find themselves on defense, let alone a Libertarian or a Conservative.

In fact, I think the ONLY economically right-wing professor I've had, was in my Economics class.

Narland, Vichtander, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

Post self-deleted by Miksii.

Miksii wrote:If only all people just got a mandatory year of sociology. The world would be a better place. :)

Haven't taken it, will probably end up being an elective in one of my last 2 years at college.

Skaveria wrote:I got a semester, but I've also had political theory, American Politics, Comparative Politics, Intro to Philosophy, and Intro to Ethics, FAR from an expert on any of those topics, but it's fair enough to say the only reason one would come out of those with a positive view of Marx is because of ideologue professors.

The standard view in those classes in terms of economics is "Marx was basically right, but people were too mean about it, oh and also, that, plus colonialism." College manufactures SocDems. Even a Liberal will find themselves on defense, let alone a Libertarian or a Conservative.

In fact, I think the ONLY economically right-wing professor I've had, was in my Economics class.

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I'm almost inclined to agree.

I also had a right-wing Econ professor, but it was right wing in the sense that he was just a free-market liberal type. I've had maybe one professor who I would say is left leaning, but honestly I'm not sure it really affected his teaching. Most of the bias in college is just boring slight center-left stuff that most people just look through. My first semester, my history professor was this pretty old guy who was an expert on the Nazis. Someone in my class tried to accuse him of being a "radical leftist paid off by Soros" because he said Hitler deserved a worse death lol.

Miksii wrote:Well it is true that people whom have gone through higher education tend to be more often on the left than the right. This would include professors and most teachers. But than again if being more educated leads most people to fall on the left that says more about the right-wing of the political spectrum.

The fear of ideologue professors is overblown and right-wing propaganda. They have a curriculum they need to follow in which of course they have some leeway, mostly in planning the course and the structure of individuals lectures and lessons. But the substance of any given course would be mainly the same/ similar no matter where a professor pr teacher falls on the spectrum of politics. In most places they also require that they don't bring in there personal politics inside the classroom unless they clearly distinct it from the material. They also of course have to be neutral when grading and so on.

Marx wasn't wrong about everything and he did have some interesting ideas and insights in the field of sociology in which some of his ideas are still very relevant.

It's a false coorilation. If the education system itself has a left-wing bias, then obviously when folks go through it, there will be a preponderance of left-wingers. You can't just tweak the education system to the left, then when college graduates turn out left, claim it's because they're educated. It's circular reasoning to the upmost.

"Educated folks are left-wing, they're left-wing because they're educated, education is left-wing, because educated folks run it."

Narland, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

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Honestly how can people claim that the upper education system is not biased it's so painfully obvious to people with one critically thinking brain cell

Narland, Skaveria

Whoever got the mods involved is one awesome person. I love you.

Vichtander, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

Post self-deleted by Miksii.

I wasn’t aware that satirizing outside views of this region was against the rules, but I’ll accept the label of trolling, for no other reason than that I’m an ugly boy.

Also, a mod has told me that I have an extensive history of rule breaking across accounts, but I am not aware of any serious rule breaking I’ve done in the last two years. Actually, tbh, I’m pretty sure that I have repeatedly been assaulted by moderation over the last two years, and each and every time, they ended up reversing their actions when it was shown that I had previously been given the go-ahead to do something by other mods, high-profile cases of uneven enforcement of “rules”, or, in two cases, when they couldn’t recall any reason why they deleted my nation. (Yes, they deleted my nation without giving reason, and after inquiring about the matter, was told they didn’t know why it happened and restored it). Given these facts, I think I have genuine reason to distrust moderation.

Narland, Auxorii, Rateria, Skaveria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

I also like how the mods just suppressed all my posts over the last few weeks instead of honestly reviewing whether they were trolling or not. Clearly it was about trolling, or they wouldn’t have suppressed completely relevant and innocuous quotes from two weeks ago

Narland, Auxorii, Rateria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

“ I don’t see how libertarians uniting with authoritarians is at all beneficial to libertarianism, especially in a time when libertarians should be presenting themselves as a serious option and not just another unprincipled gang of corrupt bastards.”

Totally trolling.

Narland, Auxorii, Rateria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

I haven’t looked back far enough, but I wouldn’t doubt it if this particular mod had suppressed all of my posts.

Narland, Auxorii, Rateria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

Libertatem supports Highway Eighty-Eight.

Just as we did Tupolite.

Narland, Rateria, Skaveria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

Miksii wrote:Well, it depends on how you define proletariat.

The proletariat (/ˌproʊlɪˈtɛəriət/ from Latin proletarius 'producing offspring') is the social class of wage-earners, those members of a society whose only possession of significant economic value is their labour power (their capacity to work).

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FREE WIL

Auxorii, Vichtander, Rateria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth, Highway Eighty-Eight

Miksii wrote:Ooh, but by this definition they still exist and are clearly still a big chunk of the population in most western countries. Labour is not necessarily physical.

What worker in the United States, Oceania or western Europe exclusively owns their labour?

I would point you to the socialist countries of China, Cuba and the like in order to find those exploited workers. They don’t exist here.

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Jadentopian Order wrote:FREE WIL

Thrice-Deleted and Thrice-Restored Wilhelm

Narland, Auxorii, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Jadentopian Order

Post self-deleted by Miksii.

Miksii wrote:Hold on the definition didn't say anything of them exclusivily owning their own labour, as in nothing else besides that. The definition clearly stated "whose only possession of significant economic value is their labour". They do own more than just their own labour but it is insegnificant as regards to their economic standing/ class.

Also yes I wouldn't want to be a worker in China nor Cuba. But than again you already know I'm not a communist but a SocDem. So mentioning them here is not really relevant. They aren't even Marxist but another subset of Communism. Don't think Marx would look fondtly upon China for example.

Why are you a social democrat? Have you ever lived in a social democracy? Do you know how they function for the average citizen? Or are you just talking out of your ass about things about which you know nothing because you just hate people that are more successful than you and don't want to admit it?

Lib being a Libertarian

The New Icelandic Commonwealth

The New Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:Why are you a social democrat? Have you ever lived in a social democracy?

Every time with this mf💀💀💀

Auxorii

Jadentopian Order wrote:Every time with this mf💀💀💀

Yes because the problem is you look at these systems with rose-coloured glasses when really you don't know anything about it

Auxorii

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:Lib being a Libertarian

Well this pandemic and the government's actions have changed my opinions a lot

Narland, The United States Of Patriots

Miksii wrote:Hold on the definition didn't say anything of them exclusivily owning their own labour, as in nothing else besides that. The definition clearly stated "whose only possession of significant economic value is their labour". They do own more than just their own labour but it is insegnificant as regards to their economic standing/ class.

Also yes I wouldn't want to be a worker in China nor Cuba. But than again you already know I'm not a communist but a SocDem. So mentioning them here is not really relevant. They aren't even Marxist but another subset of Communism. Don't think Marx would look fondtly upon China for example.

And again, workers in the United States and the western world make money, own property, etcetera. If you are poor for your entire life in the western world, then you are bad with money.

Social democracy, communism - there is no difference. First of all these Nordic countries are not socialist in any way, but are pretty free market capitalist. Secondly, the only difference between social democracy and communism is the extent. Social democracy will allow for the wearing away of decent values as well as chip away at free enterprise

Narland, Vichtander, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

The New Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:Yes because the problem is you look at these systems with rose-coloured glasses when really you don't know anything about it

It’s just funny that you say that every time

Jadentopian Order wrote:It’s just funny that you say that every time

Doesn't mean it isn't true

Narland

Miksii wrote:I never said the education in and of itself was left-wing? I said the professors and or teachers are this says nothing of the structure or format of the education on it's own. Though the fact that most educated people are left-wing and with them also being the ones taking the jobs like being a professors you may see a slight reflection of this in the educational system. However I never said the education itself was left-wing.

I even pointed out here; "The fear of ideologue professors is overblown and right-wing propaganda. They have a curriculum they need to follow in which of course they have some leeway, mostly in planning the course and the structure of individuals lectures and lessons. But the substance of any given course would be mainly the same/ similar no matter where a professor pr teacher falls on the spectrum of politics. In most places they also require that they don't bring in there personal politics inside the classroom unless they clearly distinct it from the material. They also of course have to be neutral when grading and so on."

That the curriculum and material you get will be the same/ similar no matter if your teacher/ professor is left or right-wing.

I know you never said the education system was in itself biased; I said that, because it is. Of course it depends on WHICH education system we're talking about.

Public high schools push kids towards the center because their trying to thwart radicalism. Most kids will be Neo-Liberal or Neo-Conservative after high school.

College however, is a different ballgame. In college there are classes that are inherently political. Critical theory in regards to race and gender is a class one can take as if it's just a neutral philosophy. Critical theory is an argument, one that has counter-arguments, but those aren't taught as classes.

Leaving that aside, you're right that a professor being left-wing isn't inherently some sort of crazy Soros conspiracy theory, but, as I mentioned before, these classes aren't just general education. I don't care about a Communist math teacher. I care about a Communist political theory teacher. College students develop their political identity in these classes, and are at the age where they'remost susceptible to propaganda, 18-20.

Biases come out in numerous ways. Professors, especially tenured professors, are given flexibility in how they teach the curriculum. If there are two lessons that teach the same basic concept, but one happens to shine a bright light on that professors ideological proclivity, they may choose that lesson without even thinking about it.

It's harder to articulate without it happening right in front of me, but it's subtle at times. The stress on certain syllables, the nodding of the head and smiling at certain times. How a certain idea is being presented. These things tend to encourage left-leaning students to speak more, while right-leaning students stay silent to avoid judgement from their peers.

So I suppose there's two pieces of evidence for you, one strong and one weak. The teaching of Critical Theory as if there's no counter-argument, and the overall dimming of Right-leaning students engagement, although there's no way to prove nor quantify that, it being a "lived experience" (which is just a fancy way of saying annecdote by the way.)

Narland, Vichtander, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

FROM THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY:

Happy Thanksgiving all, be safe and healthy and give lots of thanks.

🙏🏼🇺🇸🦃

Narland, Kumquat Cove, Vichtander, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, The Lamia

Post by The States Of Balloon suppressed by a moderator.

Happy US Thanksgiving everybody!

It is good to give thanks and to be grateful for the good things we have in life. Good family, a few close friends, and some gratitude is what helps make life matter.

A nephew's family in the Neo-Marxist Utopia of Oregon has a sign up in front of their house: Mostly Peaceful Protest in Session. Personally, I don't think they are fooling anyone, unless they accidentally burn down the house trying to cook the turkey.

Narland wrote:Happy US Thanksgiving everybody!

It is good to give thanks and to be grateful for the good things we have in life. Good family, a few close friends, and some gratitude is what helps make life matter.

A nephew's family in the Neo-Marxist Utopia of Oregon has a sign up in front of their house: Mostly Peaceful Protest in Session. Personally, I don't think they are fooling anyone, unless they accidentally burn down the house trying to cook the turkey.

"Fiery, but mostly peaceful Thanksgiving"

Miencraft, Narland

Board is so quiet... Everyone banned?

Auxorii

I've been occupied with Christmas shopping and finals

Auxorii

Wow, a mod seems to be taking an unusual interest in our little isolated corner of nationstates.

It would be such a shame if they realized that the entire region is just a troll and they suppressed it...

*Spam, more spam, and some trolling on an RMB of a region that really doesn’t care and would love it if the mods left them alone*

Miencraft, Narland, Auxorii, Rateria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth, Miri Islands

Why is it that libertarians tend to hate mods?

Narland, Rateria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:Why is it that libertarians tend to hate mods?

Because mods seem to hate us.

Miencraft, Narland, Auxorii, Rateria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth, Highway Eighty-Eight, Nosam Republic, Miri Islands

Skaveria wrote:Because mods seem to hate us.

Mods are little Hitlers, especially Miencraft.

It’s probably because this is a Jewish region... they might not like its Jewish-ness. Antisemites everywhere.

Of course, maybe I’m wrong and they just send bogus lies and threats to every region and suppress random posts on all regional message boards...

Miencraft, Narland, Rateria

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:Mods are little Hitlers, especially Miencraft.

It’s probably because this is a Jewish region... they might not like its Jewish-ness. Antisemites everywhere.

Of course, maybe I’m wrong and they just send bogus lies and threats to every region and suppress random posts on all regional message boards...

Blame the JOOOS

Miencraft, Rateria, Highway Eighty-Eight, Miri Islands

Y'all still in a pandemic? I'm in a bandemic fr

Auxorii, Rateria, Highway Eighty-Eight

Jadentopian Order wrote:Y'all still in a pandemic? I'm in a bandemic fr

either way it's a scamdemic

Narland, Miri Islands

Suzi Island wrote:either way it's a scamdemic

We all know it was a plannedemic

Narland, Kumquat Cove, The New Icelandic Commonwealth, Miri Islands

Are moderators really just refreshing our RMB in order to find things they can deem suppressable? Is there really nothing better for NationStates mods to do? Get a life, guys.

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:I wasn’t aware that satirizing outside views of this region was against the rules, but I’ll accept the label of trolling, for no other reason than that I’m an ugly boy.

Also, a mod has told me that I have an extensive history of rule breaking across accounts, but I am not aware of any serious rule breaking I’ve done in the last two years. Actually, tbh, I’m pretty sure that I have repeatedly been assaulted by moderation over the last two years, and each and every time, they ended up reversing their actions when it was shown that I had previously been given the go-ahead to do something by other mods, high-profile cases of uneven enforcement of “rules”, or, in two cases, when they couldn’t recall any reason why they deleted my nation. (Yes, they deleted my nation without giving reason, and after inquiring about the matter, was told they didn’t know why it happened and restored it). Given these facts, I think I have genuine reason to distrust moderation.

Read this again, mods.

Narland, Rateria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

Auxorii wrote:Are moderators really just refreshing our RMB in order to find things they can deem suppressable? Is there really nothing better for NationStates mods to do? Get a life, guys.

Read this again, mods.

I'm 90% sure I've posted more edgy things than Wilhelm and I've never been suspended. Idk why mods mess with him so much

Auxorii, Rateria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

Post by The States Of Balloon suppressed by a moderator.

I got warned once and Venom got banned for posting a Misley x Condealism fanfic.

Auxorii, Vichtander, Rateria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth, Highway Eighty-Eight

Skaveria wrote:I'm 90% sure I've posted more edgy things than Wilhelm and I've never been suspended. Idk why mods mess with him so much

Because they are anti-Semitic racists, probably. Pan-flutes are some weird things man, we should go build one with the new nails we bought the other day.

Auxorii, Rateria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:Why is it that libertarians tend to hate mods?

Because free speech

Miencraft, Narland, Auxorii, Rateria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth, Nosam Republic

My first account ever was banned for saying (quite literally) 'sh1t'.

Thats how it B sometimes.

Rateria

New Tampa wrote:'sh1t'

Weird. I’ve written stuff like:

Pus$y, c0ck, d!ck, ¢unt, fu¢k, @ss, @$$hole, etc.

I’ve never been deleted for that as far as I can remember?

Auxorii, Rateria

New Tampa wrote:My first account ever was banned for saying (quite literally) 'sh1t'.

Thats how it B sometimes.

The ban hammer knows no mercy

Narland, Auxorii, Rateria, Jadentopian Order, Nosam Republic

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Wow, Barr found no evidence of voter fraud. I am personally very shocked and dismayed. Who could have seen this coming?

Auxorii, Rateria, Miksii

Miksii wrote:BIG LGBTQ+ NEWS!

Elliot Page (now formely Ellen Page) came out as trans today! I'm so happy for him. Though it couldn't have been easy for him with his career and having the constant eye of the media and his fans on him and every part of his life. Congrats on your coming out Mr. Page!

You were welcome here, but if you are just going to hop around NS only to come back here to spam irrelevant garbage about some celebrity nobody cares about, please leave.

I also can’t help but think you thought you were doing something by posting that here - all it did was confirm what we suspected about you. You’re annoying.

Vichtander, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

Miksii wrote:BIG LGBTQ+ NEWS!

Elliot Page (now formely Ellen Page) came out as trans today! I'm so happy for him. Though it couldn't have been easy for him with his career and having the constant eye of the media and his fans on him and every part of his life. Congrats on your coming out Mr. Page!

Who?

Narland, Auxorii

Miksii wrote:BIG LGBTQ+ NEWS!

Elliot Page (now formely Ellen Page) came out as trans today! I'm so happy for him. Though it couldn't have been easy for him with his career and having the constant eye of the media and his fans on him and every part of his life. Congrats on your coming out Mr. Page!

ok

Auxorii, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

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Miksii wrote:

He played Vanya in the Umbrella Academy. :)

I am going to be honest, I have never heard of that show. I am assuming show?

After a google search I can confirm it is apparently a show

Auxorii

Miksii wrote:If that's your opinion of me that's fine. I have actually shared this post in a vew other places on NS so yeah.

I don’t see why we should care. She’s a celebrity who makes more money than either of us ever will - there is no act of bravery involved in anything she did or said.

What’s ironic is that it’s opposite - in the Western world it’s brave to support traditional values. How many people have been cancelled for doing so? Incalculable. Give me a celebrity that has been cancelled for being transgender. They receive applause and awards for going along with mainstream liberal hollywood.

Miencraft, Vichtander, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

After watching the trailer I now seem to recall my mother talking to me about the show.

The premise seems interesting, I don't know if I would like watching the show myself though. I am not big on the whole, dysfunctional quasi-family, edgy counter-culture but not really, schtick.

I don't think I am its target audience anyways though

Auxorii wrote:

What’s ironic is that it’s opposite - in the Western world it’s brave to support traditional values. How many people have been cancelled for doing so? Incalculable. Give me a celebrity that has been cancelled for being transgender. They receive applause and awards for going along with mainstream liberal hollywood.

I would really like to see the hate crime statistics against straight guys. It was what, 4 years ago that Pulse got shot up? Many states still allow the gay and trans panic defenses.

This is just in America, which is considered to be pretty accepting of LGBT+ people in most areas. I don’t think I really need to tell you how they are treated in places like the Middle East.

Rateria, Miksii

Miksii wrote:Yes omg how can it be! I mean it's not like Biden could ever defeat one of the worst and mosted hated American presidents in history. That can simply not be true.

(I'm so glad he's gone in january. For real!)

I didn’t vote for Biden, but it’s been really entertaining to watch Trump meltdown these past weeks. “STOP THE COUNT!” was one of those moments I’ll remember for a long time

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Jadentopian Order wrote:I would really like to see the hate crime statistics against straight guys. It was what, 4 years ago that Pulse got shot up? Many states still allow the gay and trans panic defenses.

This is just in America, which is considered to be pretty accepting of LGBT+ people in most areas. I don’t think I really need to tell you how they are treated in places like the Middle East.

I don't think radical Islamic Terrorism is a good example to give of hate crimes against lgbt people in America. It isn't broadly reflective of American society.

Miencraft, Auxorii

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Miksii wrote:"I WON THE ELECTION BY ALOT!" was just sad my dude. Trump is just so sad and his supporters be acting like some real snowflakes. They just need to accept elections don't allways go like you want them to. ;)

Yeah I remember how the Democrats gracefully aceppted the loss in ‘16

Narland

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Miksii wrote:I think there was I mean there are lots of transphobes out there you know. Trans people do get 9.9 times out of 10 the short end of the stick.

Supporting traditional values is brave? I mean not really my dude. Actually the opposite. It limits human expresion putting people in boxes to the point it's bad for their mental health. Traditional values are authoritarian as hell, saying people ought to live their life a certain depending on certain characteristics. It is too restricting for people and it just ain't healthy my guy.

There is a reason why the majority of counterculture is and allways has been left-wing.

I like how you don’t respond to my points and instead just say vague things like “9.9 times out of ten” and not actually explaining how traditional values are authoritarian

Miencraft, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

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"Your son said some pretty nasty stuff...he said 'i dont think Caitlyn Jenner is a hero.'" PC Principal

Miencraft, Narland, Auxorii, Highway Eighty-Eight

Miksii wrote:Saying gay people can't marry or adopt, that people should behave a certain way and take a very restrictive path in life. Like based on your sex. Women should act like this, wear this, respond like this. Same with men what they should or shouldn't wear, their path in life and how they should behave according to the "traditional" image of what a man "should" be. Toxic masculinity is a good example with the fact that men shouldn't cry at for example a movie or shouldn't wear feminine clothes.

For Trans people, there healthcare needs are often not met, they are deadnamed and misgendered (like you did in this conversation), often the victems of voilent crime, higher rates of homelessness (because of being thrown out by those "brave" parents with traditional values), high rate of suicide, facing many legal challenges, for the US specifically the trans military ban, almost no representation in the media, they are often fetishised by chasers, you have like the gay panic defense the trans panic defense, not being able to use the bathroom they are comfortable with and on and on and on and on.....

Authoritarianism concerns the state. People can have values as traditional as they want without enforcing it on anyone else.

As for gay adoption, have you ever considered that it’s necessary for a child to grow up with both a mother and father figure? The failed glorification of single parenthood by the left has demonstrated this in the failed communities they run.

As for masculinity, define “toxic” masculinity. I’d probably be considered masculine by most and I like those qualities about myself - it’s probably how I got a girlfriend. What you consider toxic is attractive to others, or isn’t taken as toxic at the least, so get off of your pedestool and quit acting like your opinion is the only valid one.

Misgendering is actually what you’re doing. Ellen Page is biologically a woman.

What “many legal challenges” are there for transgenders? I’ll agree with you that transgenders should be able to serve in the military (though we shouldn’t pay for their sex reassignment) in full capacity but I don’t think the ban stemmed from transphobia.

Almost no representation in media? Transgenders make up less than 1% of the population, so if transgenders make up more than 1% (or even equal to) of a certain media than that would actually be an overrepresentation. Something you identitarians should resent, as it wouldn’t be fair to the representation of the other demographics, no? There is also no law anywhere prohibiting transgenders from using the bathroom they choose on public property.

Or maybe we should just qualify people based off of their individuality and not the groups they belong to.

Jadentopian Order wrote:I would really like to see the hate crime statistics against straight guys. It was what, 4 years ago that Pulse got shot up? Many states still allow the gay and trans panic defenses.

This is just in America, which is considered to be pretty accepting of LGBT+ people in most areas. I don’t think I really need to tell you how they are treated in places like the Middle East.

I think most of those disadvantages are rooted in class, rather than exclusively their gender. Also, whatever the hate crime statistics are, in the Western world crime is low and is only lowering further. Of course, I am all against hate crime and treating people differently because of their orientation or claimed gender, but am I going to say a celebrity is brave when transgenders are constantly touted by the Western media? No.

I completely can agree with your point on the Middle East.

Narland, Vichtander, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

I, for one, will note that Ellen/ Elliott Page identifying as a man has had zero impact on my life, doesn't matter to me what other people do as long as it's not negatively affecting others. I assumed that would be universal in a libertarian region

Miencraft, Auxorii, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Jadentopian Order, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

Miksii wrote:I do think the Russia investigation was fine. But yeah some of the responses to the 2016 election were a bit cringe. But than again I ain't a democrat either they're to right-wing in their economic policy in my opinion.

Lol the Democrats’ economic agenda is more left wing than that of the social democrats here in the Nordic utopia of Iceland.

Narland, Auxorii, The United States Of Patriots, Nosam Republic

*Random celebrity I’ve never heard of does something that has literally nothing to do with character and no real negative consequences*

*Instantly gets put on a pedestal by the media*

*I’m wrong and a snowflake for not caring whatsoever and not considering them a hero*

Miencraft, Narland, Auxorii, Vichtander, The United States Of Patriots, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

Leftists suck at

The New Icelandic Commonwealth

This just in:

Libertarians are apparently incapable of possessing morals, religion, or opinions because that’s authoritarian.

Miencraft, Narland, Auxorii, The United States Of Patriots, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

The New Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:Lol the Democrats’ economic agenda is more left wing than that of the social democrats here in the Nordic utopia of Iceland.

Yeah, have you lived in America? :/

Auxorii, Rateria

Miksii wrote:"I WON THE ELECTION BY ALOT!" was just sad my dude. Trump is just so sad and his supporters be acting like some real snowflakes. They just need to accept elections don't allways go like you want them to. ;)

So we had 4 years of muh Russia, piss dossier, impeachment over a phonecall, obstruction on every level and endless KGB style investigation into every aspect of Trumps life to remove him from office but when we want an election with obvious red flags investigated its: "lol, you lost move on, nothing to see here". Right, IM the snowflake

Miencraft, Narland, Auxorii, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

Miri Islands wrote:So we had 4 years of muh Russia, piss dossier, impeachment over a phonecall, obstruction on every level and endless KGB style investigation into every aspect of Trumps life to remove him from office but when we want an election with obvious red flags investigated its: "lol, you lost move on, nothing to see here". Right, IM the snowflake

But... orange man bad?

Miencraft, Narland, Vichtander, The United States Of Patriots, The New Icelandic Commonwealth, Miri Islands

I just wanna take the time to say that Trump sucks. Those who agree can jack me off. Those who disagree can go get jacked up with Trump Jr.

Shallowell, Auxorii, Rateria, Jadentopian Order

Miri Islands wrote:So we had 4 years of muh Russia, piss dossier, impeachment over a phonecall, obstruction on every level and endless KGB style investigation into every aspect of Trumps life to remove him from office but when we want an election with obvious red flags investigated its: "lol, you lost move on, nothing to see here". Right, IM the snowflake

Every election has irregularities.

What's mad sus about this one is the people insisting that somehow, uniquely, this election is the one that's airtight and has zero flaws whatsoever.

Almost like there is something wrong with it and they're trying as hard as they can to sweep it under the rug...

Narland, Auxorii, Vichtander, The United States Of Patriots, The New Icelandic Commonwealth, Miri Islands

Imagine coming to a region and telling the members what they can, can’t, and do believe, declaring that they are authoritarians and fake libertarians, getting mods involved when people say things you don’t like, insulting members and calling them snowflakes, spamming their RMB, and then leaving....

God darny, thatter be some big enlightened dude, maybe we shud all change our ways before we got a GCR invasion on our here hands.

Miencraft, Narland, Auxorii, Vichtander, The United States Of Patriots, The New Icelandic Commonwealth, Miri Islands

FROM THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY

A new poll has been posted on whether Libertatem should have another recruiting drive. Do you believe our region is perfect as is, or would you rather more activity on the NS side of things concerning WA involvement, regional politics, etcetera?

Let your thoughts be known. Vote.

Rateria

Libertine =/= Libertarian but, admittedly, it should. Please be my boyfriend.

~ Willy, Former President and Autocrat of Libertatem

Have any of you eaten Rottweiler sausages? Hit me up over discord and I’ll send you my recipe. If you’re within driving distance, I’ll deliver you actual sausages made from the meat of local dogs.

Narland, Auxorii, Vichtander

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:Leftists suck at

everything

Narland

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