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Region: Libertatem
Big business small buissness all exploit the poor and weak. You are no better the Communist or Fascist.
Haha, What are you then?
Or you know, we just aren't going to feed a troll.
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I think someone should pay a little attention in English.
I want to hear his answer.
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Anarchist
"Psychotic Dictatorship"
may nation is a representation of what capitalism turns a nation into.
Is the USA a dictatorship? Umm..no.
fool........ it is a dictatorship for we have old men and women lobby for business that what to control our lives and the same for Communism and Fascism.
Not you the man who doesn't know grammar.
So you think there should be no Business and no Government How would things work?
Oh. Sorry.
Dictatorships are political entities in which a solitary leader rules a nation for life, often using a military to advance his goals and intimidate people. The United States does not use this system.
If anything, it's a plutocracy/oligarchy. This, however, is not a result of capitalism; capitalism is about the advancement of the individual, not of society (like socialism), not of government (like fascism), and not of whomever has the biggest stick (corporatism). The United States has fallen victim to socialism, fascism, AND corporatism, and can only be saved by capitalism.
Some commies are better than others, I suppose.
All shall provided and tend to themselves and be free of rules and restriction on how to live their life. Wars would end and this would will finally be a utopia that people think will never come.
Once that is relives by people we will ascend to a hight stop in the universe.
*sigh* Nieve much?
Makes sense.
Sounds like the perfect anarchy; however, it wouldn't last without a means of trade, for one. How would everyone get what they need under this system? Would they work in voluntaryist communes (anarcho-communism)? Would they use a monetary system to trade goods based on the principles of supply and demand (anarcho-capitalism)? Somewhere in between?
all of there problems that you say has befallen America is a result of capitalist and communist ideals that have come together and morfed into untrafacsism.
one would have to live off the land and the kind hearts of people.
*uses a red flag in Libertatem* Are you a commie?!?
But people are people. What happens when evil people steal from people who can't defend themselves?
then those defenseless people have saved another mans life.
And then kill them?
if the weak person dies then he is free from suffering.
as usual I win this argument good bye.
A perversion of capitalist ideals, maybe, but not capitalism; a free market is not truly free if it is marked with subsidized corporations and political bribery.
Cooperation is well and good, but if people are not willing to compete in any way for resources, many will die. Capitalism (and anarcho-capitalism) calls for a balance of cooperation and competition in order to assure better (though, naturally, unequal) living for everyone.
That's a horrible thing to say.
Typical.
"Dont play chess with a pigeon. Why? Because the pigeon is just going to crap on the board, knock the pieces over, and strut around like it won the game." - Anonymous
Who .... was that?
A pigeon.
was this pigeon on drugs or something?
Congratz Pevvania for your next term. Also Humpheria, congratz on Vice President. The Libertarian Imperialist tried in the board and and gained considerable support, just shy of victory. I will serve this region not as a politician, but as a soldier fighting for liberty.
Favorite quotes?
Mine:
"I guess it's not what you take when you leave this world behind you, it's what you leave behind you when you go."
-Randy Travis
He for some reason North Korea would not critique my flag do you mind critiquing it?
I'll have to admit, I chuckled at that one. That's good XD
Thank next week I'm thinking of getting a new one.
My quote
The object of war is not to die for your country, but to let the bastard die for his.
General George S. Patton
my quote
I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left.
Margaret Thatcher
Here is another one I like
Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, for God is always right.
Abraham Lincoln
All good quotes.
You know what I'll throw this one out here to hope no one minds
Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged.
Ronald Reagan
"The Fascists of the future will be called AntiFascists"
- Winston Churchill
So I was reading an article about the "True Americans" getting angry at a 12 year old saying One Nation Under Allah. Saying that this simple phrase is an attempt to shove Islam down the throats of every American and promote the Muslim Brotherhood. It is apparently un-American to practice your own beliefs.
but Allah is just God in the Arabic language........
Yay but when you look at who Muslims think that God is he is a very different God from the Christian God.
*ya
Who cares? He was pledging allegiance to the flag... Not calling for the death of us kuffar...
Exactly. I happen to remember something. Oh, what was it? Something about religious freedoms.
Lol you're very misguided
"They say hard work never hurt anybody, but I figure why take the chance?"
-Ronny Reagan
How can a business exploit you? You can quit at anytime. If the government got out of the way competition would push away exploration. With all these taxes and regulations it makes it hard for small businesses to compete with large ones.
Yeah and I guess saying "god" in the pledge isn't forcing christianity down the throats of non christians. Same with my currency and quotes involving god on federal buildings it's wrong and I don't think the government should condone one religion over another even if christianity is the dominant religion in the US. I don't even say the pledge anyways because I feel most of the lyrics aren't even true anymore. "With Liberty and Justice For All." Get back to me when that is actually true Pledge of Allegiance.
Under god was actully added to the pledge as a facepalm to the USSRs Forced Athism.
"Fool."
What is this, 1820?
seeing as how the pledge was invented by a guy who wanted to sell american flags, the pledge isn't even really patriotic at all.
How'd that make it less patriotic?
I'd think it'd make it more patriotic.
Freedom of Religion does not Freedom from Religion.
It is not forcing Christianity. It is making a statement, In this nation you have the right to believe whatever you want, but you should respect other people's beliefs. That is my beef. Same with that guy and you and all others who think that their religious beliefs are better than other's. I'm a-religious, but you don't see me spitting on Christianity every other day. Why is it any of my damn business what they believe in. Why is it any of yours?
*the Star Spangled Banner plays in the distance*
does not mean*
The full version of the star spangled banner has in god we trust as well.
It wasn't even made to celebrate american, just to make money
How is catering to the deity of one religion showing you can believe whatever you want. Most people would car if we put "In Allah We Trust" or "In Buddha We Trust" on the dollar. Would that not make you feel weird? I bet it would my friend. Is it not natural to believe one's beliefs are superior? I have no beliefs by the way. I'm not trying to make it my business or anyone's, what are you even getting at there?
Because "God" is vague enough to be able to apply to basically any deity? I mean, the general term for any superpowerful being like the Christian God in this particular language is, quite simply, god. As a result, you can use it to refer to any number of gods people have come up with over the ages. Of course, you do have the lack of god thing, but the majority in the country is religious anyways and I honestly don't care what they do as far as religion goes as long as I'm not affected.
Also the Buddha's not a deity (he even specifically told Buddhists to not worship him). That annoys me as much as people confusing St. Basil's for the Kremlin.
This conversation started because a girl said "One Nation Under Allah" and people called her un-American and said that it was promoting the Muslim Brotherhood. I got mad because he has the right to do that just like you have the right to hate our pledge and money because there is a word you don't like. My point is that you don't have to believe one thing or another, but you should still respect other's belief and let them believe what they will.
Man, and usually I'm the one to right out say stuff like that.
I agree does puting the word god really damage freefom of religion. Its not like the government forces you to go to church or chages extra taxes to non christians.
Although 25.6 of the population are not Christian. I estimate that to be 75 million people if you round to 25 percent to an estimation of 300 million people. So if we charge 5000 dollars a year. We would make 75 billion dollars on a non Christian tax. Lolonly the cconstitution party would do this kind of tax.
Let's be honest, we all know which "god" it's really talking about. Anyone can rationalize it but let's be honest here. Yeah I realize Buddha isn't a god it was for the purpose of the analogy, BRO.
Wait, your said "girl" and then the next sentence you used "he" for the pronoun. Was it a boy or a girl? I'm confused.
I'm not saying I hate the money for that. I don't really care, I was bringing it up for the purpose of the argument. I don't care that "god" is in the pledge either it's just a song. I will never, as long as I exist, entertain the idea of respecting others beliefs. Especially religion, when I know for a fact that every single religion ever can be disproved with ease and all religion ever can not be proven whatsoever. Sorry, that's just the way it is. I can't respect this delusion of humanity. It's sickening. I don't want people to believe in things they can't see. God is basically Santa Claus for adults. It's just sad and it makes me feel sorry for the human race.
If I was president I would definitely impose taxes on churches, synagogues, etc. It's unchecked revenue. Everyone should have to pay their fair share.
I was jk about the non Christian tax. And of course reagan charge taxes on an institution that runs on donations from its members. So basically you would be charging an extra tax on people of faith.
can i change the topic plz?
Please change the topic before it gets ugly in here.
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I hate the religion debate its always the samething from both sides.
Just like my debates with tsar on capitalism vs communism.
Dude, the church makes SO MUCH money every year it is ridiculous. I view it as a payment for the service of mass. They make you feel really bad if you don't give money too. Poor people who get welfare checks and decide to use the tax payer's money to give money to a church instead of attempting to better their lives or buy the things they need, at least, should be taxed.
I always enjoy the religion debate though
I mores like the God is real vs God isn't real debate. That's always a fun one, especially at school. A lot of people get really butthurt and it's so funny.
So why dont we just make a dept that tracks were and what welfare users buy and give money too. If it is used incorrectly just take away their welfare.
Ok, in your opinion, does libertarianism belong on the right side of the spectrum or left side?
Right side beca6se Libertrianism is the right ideology for the world.
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Have you ever seen the show Fringe? It's very good. In season 2 they go to an alternate universe. Just like ours, but very different. Ever person in that universe is required to cary a "Show Me" card. It's like an ID credit card. Everytime you buy something, get in a taxi, enter a bus, your Show Me is scanned. This is to track what you buy and aid in criminal investigation. This would be great in the US today. We could track what everyone buys for the sake of making sure nothing illegal is purchased and say, for those on welfare. The problem arises when the government would probably abuse it and make you scan it every time you enter a building and they would start tracking people. So it's still a good idea, but it's a bit iffy.
I hate political spectrums, they are just so inaccurate and confusing. Like, there is no true way to measure philosophy. I'd probably say right, somewhere before anarchy. It depends on your scale honestly.
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Who would support a move of the US capitol city to Colorado?
I wouldn't. Why would we move it to Colorado?
Look at the map and think of the possobilities
Seeing as how all these beloved monuments are there and the capitol is supposed to be in a neutral place, I doubt it will move any time soon. If anything, it should be moved to NYC, the biggest city in the US. It makes sense.
I would have chosen Michigan, Texas, or Kentucky.
NYC is so Socialist though.
O and another reason ee dont want it in Colorado. We dont need congress smoking more weed then it already does.
Let's move the capital to New Hampshire, and flood it with libertarians! Yes.
sorry for the inactivity, it will most likely contiue for the next several days. My distiric's nerf war is really heating up and my team is actually in the running (2nd place) to win this thing
Sounds awesome!
Hey, Im new to the game. I saw this region and being the libertarian i am, it looked pretty great. Anything that I should do starting out?
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Lol @ San Francisco - "For-profit healthcare is fascism" XD
Today in my college politics class, five MEP (Member of European Parliament) candidates, one of whom is a sitting Conservative MEP, are coming in to debate each other. One of them is the UKIP member Gowain Towler, who got into trouble with the press a while ago for "racist comments".
Dis is gonna be good.
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