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Region: Libertatem
Sherm got modded.
He was discussing the act and thought of doing an illegal action of murder.
Forgive me for being unclear, but my statement was not a matter of opinion.
Indeed, it was a grim observation - the destruction of one's school is a common fantasy among children and even adolescents, particularly (but not limited to) those who could be considered "school-averse" or "'problem' students." As macabre as it may seem, my opinion is that having this fantasy is not only normal, but justifiable, though I strongly advise any who have it not to act on it under any circumstances. I would also recommend they see a therapist.
Funny - the deleted impostor nations sent by your allies indicate otherwise.
Well, I guess it proves that Kanatistan didn't hack his account.
I might believe so.
Good thing me and you aren't thugish anarchists like these fools.
Ugghhhh.
Sometimes I just can't deal with you, man.
I hardly think that fantasizing about murdering classmates is "normal" or "justifiable," but let's just let your statement to that effect stand for itself.
... it's a joke.
That's the issue. I can never tell.
Also, was there a mod statement made about what just happened? There usually is.
Meh.
Where?
I, too, was curious. I would like at least some sort of explanation or reasoning. I get that he broke site rules, but there was a lot that could have just happened.
Night.
It looks like they're still sorting through everything and cleaning up. The Liberty State CTEd about ten minutes before the region's update, which leads me to believe they were Shermaniya's puppet.
I know I just don't know if it was a log in thug, if something from before caught up, if it was in fact the weirdness that just happened...most of the kids would always put down a statement.
It surely would not be, if we lived in an ideal world - you know, one where communism is possible.
But I shan't bore you with the negative psychological implications of indoctrination any longer, even if to one of its potential victims.
Considering solely my enemies have paid it any negative notice, I remain unconcerned.
I got IP Banned I think. No more Nationstates for me because of some stupid hacker. It's been fun until now. Bye.
SIncerely,
Shermaniya
Maybe if you played BF4 I'd play with you. Get with it.
If you had been hacked, your hacker would have been banned, not you. Since [nation=short]Misley[/nation] is still alive, I guess that invalidates Condealism's opportunistic slander.
If you were his puppet and he were IP banned you wouldn't be posting this.
I would also like to know what happened.
If that was Sherm, and he was serious, we may have inadvertently neglected his cry for help.
If that was a hacker, I want to know what the mods intend to do about it.
And if he merely said something he regretted and tried to slink away from it...well, even the best of us commit stupid mistakes from time to time, though that's the worst I've seen recently if that's the case.
Www.nationstates.net/page=help
Wait maybe not... I'm confused
The Seat 5 race (Citizens only counted), is 7-7.
There's something very strange about this.
Basic adolescent psychology tells us that statements like Sherm's are rarely simple calls for attention. Talk of suicide (which, if you are not completely ignorant of the history of school shootings in the United States, is what thinking about shooting up a school is) is not something that should ever be considered a joke. As an educator, I am responsible for immediately reporting self-harm if I see it or suicidal tendencies if I'm made aware of it. And that is something I have had to do within the past semester. It's not something to play around with, and the fact that you very flippantly addressed school violence... it's hard to find words that won't get me banned for posting on an RMB.
But I suppose that you know more about school violence and adolescent psychology than someone who has studied it and works in the public education system (which is flawed, but most students don't respond to those flaws with thoughts of violence against their peers as you seem to think).
Strange isn't enough to identify what "this" is in light of everything today...
An educated Communist? Yeah. Right.
So did he have multiple puppets that stayed active a bit longer after he was IP banned? I didn't think that would work unless multiple people were banned...
I don't believe that puppet sweeps are an automated process. Mods have to delete each individually. Shermaniya, The Liberty State, and Uspekh were all puppets, but Der Besten, etc. were simply deleted from inactivity at update.
All of his obvious puppets were deleted. (He still has some active I just looked into) but it was supposed to be all encompassing. It seems.
A Communist teacher. I'm your worst nightmare, indoctrinating children! We start and end each class period by singing The Internationale, all six verses, in the original French.
Is that even legal?
God help you children.
Of course it is. One of the standards I have to teach (thanks, Common Core!) is teaching protest music. What's a better protest song than The Internationale?
Do I sound like I'm joking?
There was nothing simple about this. I had a bad feeling about what he had to say and tried to gently press him to find out what the real issue was - he did not call for attention outright, and indeed may have been intimidated into rescinding his statement. That's not a good sign.
And as an aspiring therapist, I attempt to heal emotional wounds however possible - including assuaging worries, as I did - and tell those I'm aiding to seek professional help should I think they need it. Unfortunately, I made that call too late.
And you're assuming I haven't.
The thing about those thoughts is that the vast majority aren't even threatened, so much as acted upon. Students tend not to tell teachers these things for what I hope are obvious reasons, though there are exceptions - particularly in some cases where they are seriously contemplating acting upon them.
I've heard of - nay, been taught by - worse.
Troll?
What would protest songs even... What?
I still don't have a damn clue of what exactly happened here, but I fear the worst.
I can talk history for a long time. A true love of mine. Speaking of...would you say that Barcelona is the best example of communism? I left off there when I made the move, but just looking for an opinion.
Me too...
Let's have a chat.
I can talk for hours about the history that I know about. I am very knowledgeable in certain historical fields, but illiterate in others. I can tell you everything you could ever want to know about United States Presidential History. I know nothing but the name of the Han Dynasty. I will not shut up about France's monarchical period (the Louis period), but I can't tell you any Ottoman emperors.
"the worst"?
Well, we seem to be pretty active, but I need sleep. So, if anything happens that I need to address tomorrow, let me know via telegram.
It is the same for myself, I just happened to spend years listening to Tsar and researching in UCR...so I've learned a thing or ten millions
Hump, its a much longer story than you know.
For him. I'm gravely concerned, especially considering all that's transpired.
And if he was telling the truth about being hacked, as he so fervently claims he is...I just want to know why the mods would focus more on permabanning than on investigating.
Not a troll at all. Protest music is incredibly important to the musical history of the United States, from the Wobblies to the Civil Rights Movement to the Vietnam War and into the modern era.
I didn't actually teach The Internationale for protest songs, although I certainly could have and had a lesson drafted up that would include it. Instead I taught "War" by Edwin Starr, "Ohio" by Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young, "I Feel Like I'm Fixin to Die Rag" by Country Joe and the Fish, and "Holiday" by Green Day (Iraq War connections, kids can relate to it since it's happened in their lives instead of some abstract, distant-past [to them] "Vietnam").
Music, not history.
I don't think intimidating anyone into rescinding a statement is good either, but when someone opens with a statement about how they think they're a psychopath and then say they want to bomb a large group of people, namely their school, I hardly think that "Ah, that's a normal response" is the correct response to give them.
Was the expressed desire to blow up their school not enough to convince you to suggest he seek professional help?
Given your responses to that point, yes, I was.
I'm aware, although students are more likely to confide in teachers who they trust. That's what happened in the case I mentioned earlier. It's vital to educate students on how to respond to suicidal ideation as well, so they can recognize the warning signs in their peers and seek out professional help if their friend doesn't.
One of my least favorite teachers was obviously a Republican who let his ideology permeate his instruction (World History), which is why I've tried very consciously to keep my ideology invisible in my instruction. I don't pretend that I'm not a leftist, but I don't beat the kids over the head with it.
...No, not now. I'm going to need a moment.
Kids try to find excuses when they're caught and facing repercussions.
If he'd been hacked, unless it was "hacking" by a brother or something using the same computer, they'd be able to tell that and give punishment to the proper offender. Since Sherm was deleted, I have to imagine the mods are aware of who was responsible and that it was Sherm.
It sounds like this is one of your ancient secret story things on your end, but CI seems to just be concerned about the guy.
You guys are talking about two different things, it would seem.
No....Chermania (sherm) was delegate of UCR for a long time. We know him pretty well:
You students are singing the international but insist your not "beating them over the head with it"?
I thought it was fairly clear that I was not being serious, but to be fully clear: my students do not actually begin and end each class period by singing all six verses of The Internationale in the original French.
Indeed. He's insisted that he wasn't the one who said all of those things, and I think I believe him, considering he's never done anything to indicate any feelings or threats remotely like those before...but, of course, there's a lot more to people's minds than one can tell at a glance, and for that reason I may never be completely certain.
I'm so tired I can't even type apparently...
The mods have been alerted to the comments on this RMB and are taking appropriate actions. The details of those actions are nobody's business except the affected player, so please don't speculate or file Getting Help requests asking for details. If players are in outside contact with the player behind Sherm and have additional information they wish to report, that's an acceptable use of Getting Help.
Is it out of the scope of our business to verify that the account in question was not, in the moderators' opinion, under someone else's control when the posts in question were made?
But I asked if that was legal and you said yes? Then you mentioned common core which points to trolling.
More like sarcasm, though that wouldn't mark this night's first sick joke.
So, that's it then. We lost Cherm, just like that. (Again, technically.)
I'm so tired your probably right, lmao
Teaching "The Internationale" is not illegal. Even singing the whole thing is not illegal, but since the full version takes seven minutes to sing, wasting 14 minutes of class time on The Internationale would be a terrible use of instructional time and would lead to poor evaluations from my principal. Protest songs are a part of Common Core, and "The Internationale" could be easily justified as a protest song if I wanted to teach it.
Hi there!
*takes off hat*
Now he belongs to the Ages.
Hey guys, who was Republic Of Conservadom again? I vaguely remember the name, but I can't recall anything else about them.
Ninja'd
Hello. You seem to be a red. Telegram me if you'd like:
Oh. I thought you said that it was required in the common core thing.
But would teaching songs about a genocidal cause really be ok?
Communists have the right to teach unsuspecting school children that genocide and tyranny are justified by rallying cries of the "Proletariat!", I suppose. By law, at least.
"The Internationale" is hardly a song that promotes genocide.
It's amazing you have any allies at all, considering what you think of them.
On a more serious note, wtf happened to Sherm? We were watching when it happened....... crazy, hope that dude gets help if he actually said that stuff.
Also, who is Kanastan & what is he doing exactly?
Does it promote a communist society? Every one knows how those end up.
I should probably be mad or at least annoyed about our enemies making small talk with us, but for some reason that doesn't trouble me in the least right now.
No, I'm downright pissed that what (probably) happened was someone used Cherm's account to make a sick joke, and that if it had been an actual confession, that I reacted the wrong way in my haste. If it wasn't clear to me before, now I know that I don't have the right temperament or knowledge to be a psychologist of any kind. There goes another of my dreams, doomed to failure - why am I not surprised?
Whatever, I'll be over it by morning and hopefully we'll all pretend this sickening debacle never happened. Night, all.
You've said that about every single one of your raided allies. lol It's typical of capitalists to abandon their friends in times of misery.
Not a "capital-C" Communist, at least. The Internationale was written by an anarchist--the third verse in particular shows its anarchist influence:
Direct anything you'd like to say and your questions to myself via telegram.
"Republic of Conservadom"
Damn I forgot that region existed.
All they care about is money and oppressing the masses. Do you think they care about friends? Of course not.
My favorite oldie song is "Taxman" by the Beatles.
One of my students answered the question "_________ was the former lead singer of Queen who died in November 1991 due to pneumonia complicated by AIDS" with "Paul McCartney."
rofl
Conservative Idealism in Libertatem- Don't be so hard on yourself. Psychology isn't a field you just jump right into and pick up in a day or so. If you intend to pursue it seriously, university and especially graduate school will run you through the ringer to teach you the skills necessary to address and properly respond to situations with troubled individuals. So don't sell yourself short just because of one situation you run into on the internet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_is_dead
I had the option of taking psychology or sociology the next semester.
Obviously I took sociology, so I can pinpoint where it is that the government has gone wrong.
Well, now you have been reminded. It's about time. 3 of your allies were raided over Christmas, but of course you heartless bananas don't give a burning elephant's feces as long as those superprofits are flowing in your direction, eh?
I'll just insert what he'd say here: "Thanks, but it's complicated"
Also, we have a good mod in this one. A empathizer. This is good. *high fives invisible God-mod in the sky*
I seriously don't recall that region. I think they were related to Conservative Empire? Whatever they merged a long time ago.
I think they merged into some sort of tropical paradise based region. Can't remember the name.
Of course you also forgot about Hyatt Islands and AAA.
Woo you know how to raid. Awesome.
Now take one of us over by gaining our trust, getting the delegacy, and shutting us down.
Now that's a good idea! I think we'll do that next.
Meh. Takes too much time.
Also, this is for you guys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIaRyaQw4N0
How do you know Condealism isn't a deeply-embedded sleeper agent? Codename... Duchess.
Don't forget that both of those raids failed :)
Hmmm lol indeed
Because he's been delegate of other regions before and they are still intact. Well, at least before *youknowho*
Again with that? uggh, find some other terrible twang song to assault us with, we've heard that one.
80 minutes ago: The Red Fleet Teachers Lounge of TRF Submarine Group V arrived from The Red Fleet Conning Tower.
*Readies banjection catapult*
Nah it's damn funny. I can listen to it all day. My favorite part is when he drifts down to hell.
Not yet. He hasn't pissed us off yet, unlike you know whos.
Except that they didn't. Raids only fail if you don't get the delegacy, or take the delegate spot in a region with delegate powers turned off. They knew going in that with active founders it wouldn't last forever. That's why they're called "tag raids."
There was a whole article about this in this week's edition of the Red & Black. You gotta keep up with the times!
http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=347222
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