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Hi sweeties! Your region will be next! Just wanted to let you know...

The oppressed masses of Libertatem will take up the arms and send the capitalist scum to the Gulag!

More meat for the grinder! Just imagine how much we could pull with 250 people in libertatem for a raid...

Autarchist Anti-State wrote:Begone, bolshie.

Bolshie, how sweet!

Autarchist Anti-State

Rothbard Communities wrote:Hi sweeties! Your region will be next! Just wanted to let you know...

With multiple people controlling the founder, more than 30 people with WA potential and large amounts of influence, and an active RMB, id like to see you try break in here. At most you could grab the non executive delegacy and taunt us for a while on an inactive day. Lel

Miencraft, Pevvania

Rothbard Communities wrote:Bolshie, how sweet!

It is the sweetest name I could think up for you. Cherish it.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:With multiple people controlling the founder, more than 30 people with WA potential and large amounts of influence, and an active RMB, id like to see you try break in here. At most you could grab the non executive delegacy and taunt us for a while on an inactive day. Lel

And do YOu know all of the people controlling the founder personally? Hmmmm?

Rothbard Communities wrote:The oppressed masses of Libertatem will take up the arms and send the capitalist scum to the Gulag!

You sound like a poorly written character from a 1980's action b-movie. Go read a book or a dictionary or something before you spew your stupid rhetoric.

Miencraft, Pevvania

The New United States wrote:You sound like a poorly written character from a 1980's action b-movie. Go read a book or a dictionary or something before you spew your stupid rhetoric.

Love how you don't understand irony and have no sense of humour!

Rothbard Communities wrote:Love how you don't understand irony and have no sense of humour!

Your attempts at saving face are see-through.

Pevvania

Autarchist Anti-State wrote:Your attempts at saving face are see-through.

I am preparing you guys a nice little gift!

Rothbard Communities wrote:And do YOu know all of the people controlling the founder personally? Hmmmm?

As one of said people, I can confirm that our access isn't exactly a secret.

Rothbard Communities

Rothbard Communities wrote:I am preparing you guys a nice little gift!

Is it similar to the gift the USSR gave Poland in 1945? Almost 50 years of oppression? If so, I'm in.

lol

Wovenland wrote:Is it similar to the gift the USSR gave Poland in 1945? Almost 50 years of oppression? If so, I'm in.

lol

A bit the same, yes!

Just look at your regional happenings...now...oh and now...and now!

Too bad you guys didn't re-found your former colonies after they CTE'd!

Oh sh!t, you stole all the regions we never cared about.

Miencraft, The New United States, Muh Roads, Autarchist Anti-State

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Oh sh!t, you stole all the regions we never cared about.

That's what guys like you always say...oh and btw, consider this a declaration of war!

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Oh sh!t, you stole all the regions we never cared about.

Will we ever recover?

Miencraft, Pevvania, Muh Roads, Rothbard Communities

I know exactly that deep inside you, you cannot bear the humiliation inflicted by a dirty red like me!

I don't think they even realize all the relevant leftist and fascist regions we did take in the last few months when Misley was away secretly, compared to the few refounds such as Talinn.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I don't think they even realize all the relevant leftist and fascist regions we did take in the last few months when Misley was away secretly, compared to the few refounds such as Talinn.

Oh yeah? Which one sweetheart?

Fellow members of the lower class! Oppressed peoples of Libertatem! Hear my words!

It is time for us to rise up and say... our government should keep doing what they're doing, because whatever they're doing, it's working. Our population has skyrocketed, our activity has improved, and we've even managed to piss off the reds somehow. Keep up the good work!

Workers of the world... let's get back to it!

Miencraft, Pevvania, The New United States

Rothbard Communities wrote:Oh yeah? Which one sweetheart?

Why would we tell you, honey bun?

Perhaps if the commies stopped fighting amongst each other, they'd realize that some of their allies have disappeared.

let's take a look at North Korea's RMB, shall we?

Mmm, hmmmm, mmhmm. Oh dear, it looks like one of their former mates is now a fash. I always knew authoritarian personalities gravitated to certain ideologies. Weren't some in NK and DK former fascists anyway? Enlightening.

Miencraft

Isn't Libertatem friends with The Communist Bloc?

Rothbard Communities

Autarchist Anti-State wrote:Isn't Libertatem friends with The Communist Bloc?

More like respected colleagues.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:More like respected colleagues.

However you wish to put it. ;)

Autarchist Anti-State wrote:Isn't Libertatem friends with The Communist Bloc?

Sort of - the two regions keep their distance.

Libertatem is, however, close allies with International Republican Union, which itself is on very friendly terms with The Communist Bloc.

Condealism Envoy Unit One wrote:Sort of - the two regions keep their distance.

Libertatem is, however, close allies with International Republican Union, which itself is on very friendly terms with The Communist Bloc.

Didn't you even have embassies this one time?

Autarchist Anti-State wrote:Didn't you even have embassies this one time?

It's a long story. I'll tell it to you in condensed form.

Libertatem tried to seek embassies with The Communist Bloc, but our efforts were rebuffed in part because Das Kommune was seeking relations with TCB at the same time, and gave an "it's them or us" ultimatum. TCB meekly rejected our offer and chose to seek relations with DK instead.

A few months later, we launched a tag raid on DK for no good reason (except, of course, that they were our enemies and were vulnerable, and we had no reason not to). It took them about 90 minutes to react, and in that time, we spat in the face of their anti-free-speech policies by opening up their RMB privileges to everyone in the embassy regions. And wouldn't you know it, TCB's President was pleased that she now had the opportunity to post on DK's RMB, and thanked us for making it possible. When DK recovered, needless to say, they didn't like that.

Relations between TCB and DK were already tense because their militaries kept tripping over one another and stealing one another's territories, so it didn't take long for the embassies between them to close. And, because we treated TCB's President so cordially, Libertatem and the IRU succeeded in opening embassies there.

TCB later withdrew the Libertatem embassy on account of the War on Communism (and the misinterpretation thereof), but I suppose that's just how it goes.

Condealism Envoy Unit One wrote:It's a long story. I'll tell it to you in condensed form.

Libertatem tried to seek embassies with The Communist Bloc, but our efforts were rebuffed in part because Das Kommune was seeking relations with TCB at the same time, and gave an "it's them or us" ultimatum. TCB meekly rejected our offer and chose to seek relations with DK instead.

A few months later, we launched a tag raid on DK for no good reason (except, of course, that they were our enemies and were vulnerable, and we had no reason not to). It took them about 90 minutes to react, and in that time, we spat in the face of their anti-free-speech policies by opening up their RMB privileges to everyone in the embassy regions. And wouldn't you know it, TCB's President was pleased that she now had the opportunity to post on DK's RMB, and thanked us for making it possible. When DK recovered, needless to say, they didn't like that.

Relations between TCB and DK were already tense because their militaries kept tripping over one another and stealing one another's territories, so it didn't take long for the embassies between them to close. And, because we treated TCB's President so cordially, Libertatem and the IRU succeeded in opening embassies there.

TCB later withdrew the Libertatem embassy on account of the War on Communism (and the misinterpretation thereof), but I suppose that's just how it goes.

Such a sad story. :(

Aye, but there's a moral:

Treat your allies with respect. Neglect them and they will avoid you. Oppose them and they will betray you. But if you befriend them and value them greatly, they will fight for you.

Miencraft, The New United States

Condealism Envoy Unit One wrote:Aye, but there's a moral:

Treat your allies with respect. Neglect them and they will avoid you. Oppose them and they will betray you. But if you befriend them and value them greatly, they will fight for you.

Which is why although a small region, Zentari has our upmost support.

(Joking) Presidential announcement:

We are very frightened of Bolshie's multiple embassy requests. Libertatem is hereby ordered to run around in circles crying with your thumbs in your mouth.

Miencraft, The New United States

Muh Roads wrote:(Joking) Presidential announcement:

We are very frightened of Bolshie's multiple embassy requests. Libertatem is hereby ordered to run around in circles crying with your thumbs in your mouth.

How could we ever fear the godless commies, when we're guided by Lord Roads, Mover of Nations, Savior of Regions, Crusher of Commies?

Muh Roads

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Mmm, hmmmm, mmhmm. Oh dear, it looks like one of their former mates is now a fash. I always knew authoritarian personalities gravitated to certain ideologies. Weren't some in NK and DK former fascists anyway? Enlightening.

Bahahahahah!

Cuba was an Anarchist!

Muh Roads wrote:Which is why although a small region, Zentari has our upmost support.

Oh, so that's why Roth-bored was here - he was trying to retaliate for failing in his raid attempt.

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No offence to anarchists, just find it funny how anarcho-communists are authoritarian.

Factcheck wrote:No offence to anarchists, just find it funny how anarcho-communists are authoritarian.

Maybe they aren't ancoms if they are authoritarian? Hey, just saying.

Factcheck wrote:Bahahahahah!

Cuba was an Anarchist!

Keyword: Was.

Or, more accurately, might have been pretending to be. (Bear in mind, also, that anarcho-communists are not terribly common in North Korea.)

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Autarchist Anti-State wrote:Maybe they aren't ancoms if they are authoritarian? Hey, just saying.

#CircularLogic

#CircularLogicFTW!

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What's wrong? You deleted your post.

This wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that Cuba was present in North Korea to participate in a debate, would it?

Condealism Envoy Unit One wrote:Keyword: Was.

Or, more accurately, might have been pretending to be. (Bear in mind, also, that anarcho-communists are not terribly common in North Korea.)

*Sigh*

If you had done maybe 2 minutes of research before embarrassing yourselves, (Again!) I wouldn't have to be here, Cuba did not reside in North Korea, and would not be caught dead in North Korea, he has shown nothing but his hatred for North Korea.

His last region before Nazi Europe was Libcom and even before that was TI, (bear in mind TI is open to all communists "statists" and anarchists) I won't go into the full story as it gets complicated.

Factcheck wrote:#CircularLogic

How is that circular logic?

Condealism Envoy Unit One wrote:What's wrong? You deleted your post.

This wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that Cuba was present in North Korea to participate in a debate, would it?

Grammar errors, sorry.

Autarchist Anti-State wrote:How is that circular logic?

He thinks we mean "We think he's an authoritarian, but he says he's an anarcho-communist, but he can't be an anarcho-communist because he's an authoritarian." That argument would be an example of circular logic.

What we really mean is "He moved to a fascist region and endorses authoritarian principles. It is for that reason that he is likely not an anarcho-communist at all."

Condealism Envoy Unit One wrote:He thinks we mean "We think he's an authoritarian, but he says he's an anarcho-communist, but he can't be an anarcho-communist because he's an authoritarian." That argument would be an example of circular logic.

What we really mean is "He moved to a fascist region and endorses authoritarian principles. It is for that reason that he is likely not an anarcho-communist at all."

K. Dunno what he's on about tho.

Condealism Envoy Unit One wrote:He thinks we mean "We think he's an authoritarian, but he says he's an anarcho-communist, but he can't be an anarcho-communist because he's an authoritarian." That argument would be an example of circular logic.

What we really mean is "He moved to a fascist region and endorses authoritarian principles. It is for that reason that he is likely not an anarcho-communist at all."

Not anymore anyway, he ran for WA on TI.

Factcheck wrote:Not anymore anyway, he ran for WA on TI.

Yes, that's what I meant by

Condealism Envoy Unit One wrote:Keyword: Was.

Or, more accurately, might have been pretending to be. (Bear in mind, also, that anarcho-communists are not terribly common in North Korea.)

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One person suggested on the TI RMB that he was a sleeper agent.

Although at the time it seemed as if he was genuine about him being an anarchist.

It seemed as if (I don't know if you are) you were arguing that deep down he was somehow a statist.

Maybe next time you should check your facts and do a little bit of research before thinking someone who resided in North Korea defected to Nazi Europe.

;)

He did reside in NK. Granted, he wasn't there for very long...

But, yes, yes, it's my mistake for thinking that any anarcho-communist, libertarian leftist, or claimant thereof would ever reside in North Korea.

Condealism Envoy Unit One wrote:He did reside in NK. Granted, he wasn't there for very long...

But, yes, yes, it's my mistake for thinking that any anarcho-communist, libertarian leftist, or claimant thereof would ever reside in North Korea.

You mean like [nation=Eco-Warrior]? On NK's RMB:

Eco-Warrior wrote:I'm an anarchist and I'm friendly with you communists, you're my comrades. Casita and Cuba made their presence here with nothing but lots of self aggrandizement and foolhardy positions set to divide and cause Ming hell. I'm glad they turned fascist, it stops giving a bad name to anarchists and dragging our ideology through the mud, anarchists don't spread hate and that kinda shows that they were fascists from the start just trying to drive wedges and make splits in the NS left and especially in NK.

Hey guys, our population is rising again!

Condealism Envoy Unit One wrote:Hey guys, our population is rising again!

Hey, good for you. Maybe one of them will know how to run a military and not rely on NS++ update times for operations. :)

Yelsim wrote:Hey, good for you. Maybe one of them will know how to run a military and not rely on NS++ update times for operations. :)

Yelsim wrote:know how to run a military and not rely on NS++ update times for operations.

Yelsim wrote:not rely on NS++ update times

Lol

Do you guys want me to break it to him, or should he figure out how the vast majority of raids work on his own?

I've been decoding the sequence orders on another program and it's great. Much more accurate.

That being said, we haven't raided in a while so, I like to think that Libertatem and it's allies have done nothing as of recently to provoke aggression. All aggression has been coming from North Korea and company. Why they don't leave us alone is beyond me.

Condealism Envoy Unit One

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I've been decoding the sequence orders on another program and it's great. Much more accurate.

That being said, we haven't raided in a while so, I like to think that Libertatem and it's allies have done nothing as of recently to provoke aggression. All aggression has been coming from North Korea and company. Why they don't leave us alone is beyond me.

Maybe run a practice raid?

Muh Roads wrote:Maybe run a practice raid?

shhh

Muh Roads wrote:Which is why although a small region, Zentari has our upmost support.

And the region of Zentari thank you for your support. We of course, would like to contribute something as well once we get a bit bigger.

Zurkerx wrote:And the region of Zentari thank you for your support. We of course, would like to contribute something as well once we get a bit bigger.

You'll get there so long as you dedicate the time and take advantage of the proper resources.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:shhh

I didn't make specific remarks :)

Muh Roads wrote:I've honestly never heard of an anarcho-socialist. Anarcho-communist, sure, but how does anarcho-socialism work?

You are using a libertarian socialist system. So your nation is a land of freedom and anarchy, but still has a socialist government keeping everyone equal.

Social anarchism is basically an anarchy with cooperatives or some other form of social ownership excluding state ownership, because you cannot have states in an anarchy.

Factcheck

Condealism Envoy Unit One wrote:He did reside in NK. Granted, he wasn't there for very long...

But, yes, yes, it's my mistake for thinking that any anarcho-communist, libertarian leftist, or claimant thereof would ever reside in North Korea.

I never said that.....

He probably only went there to attack it, lol.

Autarchist Anti-State wrote:Social anarchism is basically an anarchy with cooperatives or some other form of social ownership excluding state ownership, because you cannot have states in an anarchy.

Close enough.

Social Anarchism/Left Libertarianism defined by a Social Anarchist/Left Libertarian/Libertarian Socialist.

http://youtu.be/__vv6eRj2-k

Or you could just go here if you prefer reading sh!t.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_anarchism

Muh Roads

New Shizturdea wrote:You are using a libertarian socialist system. So your nation is a land of freedom and anarchy, but still has a socialist government keeping everyone equal.

This game is inherently statist... you can't get away with having no government at all unfortunately. I'm an anarcho-capitalist.

I understand Libertarian socialism, but anarchy and government don't go hand in hand.

Factcheck wrote:Bahahahahah!

Cuba was an Anarchist!

Silly child, "anarcho"-communists aren't a real thing. :)

Yelsim wrote:Hey, good for you. Maybe one of them will know how to run a military and not rely on NS++ update times for operations. :)

We can't run a military, but still managed to blindside you in CAPS, IS and a major region you don't yet know has been hit :)

Regarding the whole Cuba fiasco, just a reminder to everyone of the façade that is "leftist unity": The Republics Of Cuba And The Caribbean

This region had a few dozen nations at one point, and when the signs were bleedingly obvious that we were coming for it, the valiant defenders of all that is socialist did nothing while we burned the region to the ground. This was long before anyone said anything about being a fascist.

Ah, never mind. It was fun taking it down anyway.

Pretty nice 'round here...can I stay? So I can tell you which region is hit next by a proletarian uprising like the one we saw in Zentari!

Rothbard Communities wrote:Pretty nice 'round here...can I stay? So I can tell you which region is hit next by a proletarian uprising like the one we saw in Zentari!

Indeed, our region is pretty nice. I'm glad you recognise the superiority of free-market capitalism to the ugly decay bred by socialism, the ultimate anti-worker, anti-poor, racist ideology.

Are you Sornia? The guy who copy-pasta'd an entire essay on anarcho-capitalism?

Pevvania wrote:Who's online?

Me.

Pevvania wrote:Who's online?

Yo.

Guys, Board elections are this month!

Pevvania wrote:Guys, Board elections are this month!

Yay!

By the way, I need to be added to the Board factbook entry.

I just picked up Democracy 3 in the steam sale. It's impossible to make a society that's even close to libertarian.

Wovenland wrote:I just picked up Democracy 3 in the steam sale. It's impossible to make a society that's even close to libertarian.

I never quite figured out that series of games. I really like the Tropico series, though.

Autarchist Anti-State wrote:I never quite figured out that series of games. I really like the Tropico series, though.

This is the first one I've played, I've also only played Tropico 4.

It seems in Democracy 3 you need to try really hard to balance the budget but the only way to do this is to raise income tax to Scandinavian proportions.

Wovenland wrote:This is the first one I've played, I've also only played Tropico 4.

It seems in Democracy 3 you need to try really hard to balance the budget but the only way to do this is to raise income tax to Scandinavian proportions.

They are, of course, reflecting the political positions of their developers.

Autarchist Anti-State wrote:I never quite figured out that series of games. I really like the Tropico series, though.

I love Tropico aswell. The religious faction typically hates me for awhile.

Muh Roads wrote:I love Tropico aswell. The religious faction typically hates me for awhile.

Do they perhaps scream 'muh roads' after you've ignored the state the Tropican infrastructure is in and made huge cuts to that department? :P

Muh Roads

I got assassinated by capitalists three years in to my first term and I was trying my hardest to make them happy.

Wovenland wrote:I got assassinated by capitalists three years in to my first term and I was trying my hardest to make them happy.

The ungrateful bastards. Time to implement the commieism.

Pevvania

Wovenland wrote:I got assassinated by capitalists three years in to my first term and I was trying my hardest to make them happy.

Shouldn't have cut off the corporate welfare.

Too many big business parasites out there, soaking up stolen money like a baby pig on his mother's teat.

Autarchist Anti-State wrote:Do they perhaps scream 'muh roads' after you've ignored the state the Tropican infrastructure is in and made huge cuts to that department? :P

Let's just say that teamsters need not apply :)

Autarchist Anti-State

Muh Roads wrote:Let's just say that teamsters need not apply :)

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