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Ankha wrote:We missed like 2 weeks of school though, cuz snow then floods.

Are you living near Buffalo?

Have any of you people here know what nibiru is?

And Indiana shuts down the school system for five inches of snow, LOL

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Right-Winged Nation wrote:And Indiana shuts down the school system for five inches of snow, LOL

Up here, I've never seen a school closed for snow unless it was necessary to bring out plows.

In fact, schools up here have a tendency to not close down for weather at all unless it's a hurricane or roads are covered in snow. Reminds me of a day when it was somewhere around -10 and I couldn't for the life of me find a single school in the area that was closed.

Mien pls stop Ipianning

Remind me to go to somewhere where schools don't rely on state dollars if I ever intend to put anyone even remotely relate to me through school.

Gangimicklands wrote:Have any of you people here know what nibiru is?

What, Planet X?

Pevvania wrote:You what?*

(Do you) want to get wrecked?*

Pathetic.

Uptight man didn't get joke.

Bruhh...

That your beloved Ronald Reagan hide the truth that is going to crash into our gravitational field and destroy 90% of the population. The end of the world is Ronald regains falt.

Gangimicklands wrote:That your beloved Ronald Reagan hide the truth that is going to crash into our gravitational field and destroy 90% of the population. The end of the world is Ronald regains falt.

Source?

Gangimicklands wrote:That your beloved Ronald Reagan hide the truth that is going to crash into our gravitational field and destroy 90% of the population. The end of the world is Ronald regains falt.

But our magnetic field is not a solid object that something can crash into, nor is our atmosphere.

Also, no single person on Earth is capable of directing a far-off space object towards the planet at this point in human history.

Also, you have no source.

Gangimicklands wrote:That your beloved Ronald Reagan hide the truth that is going to crash into our gravitational field and destroy 90% of the population. The end of the world is Ronald regains falt.

http://putaindecode.fr/posts/git/versionner-avec-git/mind_blown.gif

My economy has imploded, halp!

Tyrone Land wrote:My economy has imploded, halp!

Cut taxes, spending and regulations. Adjust monetary policy depending on conditions.

Tyrone Land wrote:My economy has imploded, halp!

Lol. I had never seen a 0/100 economy before.

Keep up the good job !

The easy way to improve your economy is always to choose to destroy your environment ( allow mining, oil extraction in your sensible areas ) in your issues.

I like destroying nature, Mwuahaha.

Tyrone Land wrote:My economy has imploded, halp!

Don't listen to them.

Keep taxes, decrease spending on things that aren't military, slightly decrease regulations and then nationalize stuff... That's my economy.

Still don't know how an economy where the income tax is about 84% and private enterprise is banned can be a " powerhouse " economy...

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:Still dont know how an economy where the income about 84% and private enterprise is banned can be a " powerhouse " economy...

The economic mechanics allow economics forms to be good or bad depending on choices inside the economy.

My nation is just that good.

Don't know who that is. Telegram me.

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:http://putaindecode.fr/posts/git/versionner-avec-git/mind_blown.gif

Das a bad word.... oooooh.....

Articaa wrote:Don't know who that is. Telegram me.

Hi! Welcome to Libertatem, guy (or girl) that I have never met before and have no idea who is.

Lowest Overall Tax Burden:

1. The Sleeping Giant of Gabriel Possenti Capitalizt “Semper Paratus, Semper Liberis!”

2. The Libertatem President VII of Miencraft WA Member Anarchy “Minsarkahi et Esetethnik”

Me: *chuckles*

Humpheria wrote:Hi! Welcome to Libertatem, guy (or girl) that I have never met before and have no idea who is.

Thanks, Jake.

If you guys didn't get it, I've been talking to Articaa through telegrams for the last 30 minutes.

Articaa wrote:Thanks, Jake.

Alright Albul give it up. I don't buy your telegram.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Alright Albul give it up. I don't buy your telegram.

It's not Albul

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:Still don't know how an economy where the income tax is about 84% and private enterprise is banned can be a " powerhouse " economy...

Because unfortunately, this game was created by Krugbot.

Pevvania wrote:Because unfortunately, this game was created by Krugbot.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:The economic mechanics allow economics forms to be good or bad depending on choices inside the economy.

My nation is just that good.

Pevvania wrote:Because unfortunately, this game was created by Krugbot.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:The economic mechanics allow economics forms to be good or bad depending on choices inside the economy.

My nation is just that good.

Like the fact Nazi Germany wasn't that economically shot.

Like the fact most Monarchies were rich countries

Like the fact most Demicracies are rich.

It depends on the distribution of Products, amount of resources and their use.

The State Of Deseret wrote:Like the fact Nazi Germany wasn't that economically shot.

Like the fact most Monarchies were rich countries

Like the fact most Demicracies are rich.

It depends on the distribution of Products, amount of resources and their use.

So what you're saying is that any kind of economic system can work if it's done right?

What does economically shot mean? And what's a Demicracie?

Pevvania wrote:So what you're saying is that any kind of economic system can work if it's done right?

What does economically shot mean? And what's a Demicracie?

Demicracie- A democracy that allows half of a nations citizens yo have their votes counted.

Economically shot-Your Economy is doing awful. A collapsed economic system.

If anyone is interested in a mission, please telegram me. Nothing top secret or anything. Any Veterans can participate.

Pevvania wrote:So what you're saying is that any kind of economic system can work if it's done right?

What does economically shot mean? And what's a Demicracie?

If done right any economic system works in all honesty. Communism if done voluntarily works as well. Communism its self depends of voluntary members.

Did you know that under President Miencraft, only 8% of Libertatem's population works in the public sector. That is a 92% private sector! President Miencraft has always and will always promote the private sector vehemently.

The More You Know.

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Miencraft 2014 Headquarters wrote:Did you know that under President Miencraft, only 8% of Libertatem's population works in the public sector. That is a 92% private sector! President Miencraft has always and will always promote the private sector vehemently.

The More You Know.

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And above all, the public sector costs nothing to the private sector, time to fix that and distribute huge bonuses to every Libertatem public worker !

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:And above all, the public sector costs nothing to the private sector, time to fix that and distribute huge bonuses to every Libertatem public worker !

*tightly grasps tax dollars in his fists, growls* Go ahead. TAKE IT FROM ME.

Miencraft 2014 Headquarters wrote:Did you know that under President Miencraft, only 8% of Libertatem's population works in the public sector. That is a 92% private sector! President Miencraft has always and will always promote the private sector vehemently.

The More You Know.

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This is whete the Private sector goes to 0 on my nation. *Nods*

Hey, guys. I want to switch my party to the ACOP, but since they're similar, I'll caucus with the RLP on the Board.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Works for me.

Seems like everyone is jumping ship

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Seems like everyone is jumping ship

Hopefully that doesn't spread.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:ACOP is on the beat.

Just you wait, meanie-head.

Meanwhile, the UMR still doesn't have a description in the Libertatem political parties subject *sigh*

Humpheria wrote:Just you wait, meanie-head.

I had anticipated that your rejoinder would involve donuts or coffee, lol

Donuts sound wonderful right now

I have chosen CI as my VP candidate. I have something big in the works.

Presidential Candidate Muh Roads is the public champion of the private sector.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:*tightly grasps tax dollars in his fists, growls* Go ahead. TAKE IT FROM ME.

No need.

I'll just pay these bonuses out of my own wallet.

You forget that Miencraft's currency is gold; our treasury is full of the stuff, we can afford to leave some lying elsewhere.

Muh Roads wrote:I have chosen CI as my VP candidate. I have something big in the works.

Good luck guys.

Yeah, good luck guys.

Anyone here seen American Psycho?

Okay guys I took your advice and raised taxed on Chicken, so how long until my economy gets 100/100?

Tyrone Land wrote:Okay guys I took your advice and raised taxed on Chicken, so how long until my economy gets 100/100?

Tyrone, you need to sort out your economy. Cut taxes, cut spending and cut regulations wherever you can - no matter how cruel or heartless it may seem. My economy has been in the high 90s for several years now because of this successful policy mix.

Tyrone Land wrote:Okay guys I took your advice and raised taxed on Chicken, so how long until my economy gets 100/100?

Raise taxes, spend on Military and raise regulations.

My economy in this nation did bad but once I started doing this I've been a power housem

We thought we would do this too, so.... Vote Muh Roads/Conservative Idealism!

Pevvania wrote:Anyone here seen American Psycho?

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:Raise taxes, spend on Military and raise regulations.

My economy in this nation did bad but once I started doing this I've been a power housem

I mean it's not my idealistic economy, but yeah...

Also...I was in a discussion about Flat Tax vs. Progressive tax...

Now he gave me this chart.

Flat Tax is 10 percent.

Poor man earns 500 dollars

Then flat tax is 50 making it 450

Now groceries spend about 25-50

So 400. Then other bills...

None left for emergency

Middle Class

Earn 1000 about.

Pays 100 making it 900

Another 50 for groceries and it's 850

Other Bills some left for emergencies

Rich man makes 10,000

Pays 1,000 making it 9,000

Other Bills and such with plenty of money for emergencies and luxuries.

Is flat tax fair? Or is Progressive actually more fair?

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:Is flat tax fair? Or is Progressive actually more fair?

I personally think we should all return to a regressive tax. If nothing else, it teaches poor people to not be so poor. Punishment would do them some good.

Humpheria wrote:I personally think we should all return to a regressive tax. If nothing else, it teaches poor people to not be so poor. Punishment would do them some good.

Regressive tax?

How is that even fair to the poor? At all. Your punishing the poor for being poor? They don't always choose to be poor.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:Regressive tax?

How is that even fair to the poor? At all. Your punishing the poor for being poor? They don't always choose to be poor.

I was being facetious.

Wrapping up arguments in simplified words such as "progressive", "flat", or "regressive" does nothing but cloud the argument. All have their benefits, depending on the size of the rates. All I care about is tax being low for all. 3-2-1, or 1-2-3, or 3-3-3 are all good options because they're all low.

Regressive taxes, in principle, are not too bad, because they incentivise the poor to move up the socio-economic ladder.

I like the part where most of the US population doesn't even pay taxes anyways, so arguing about everyone paying their "fair share" of taxes doesn't make sense, since most people pay nothing.

I'd personally go for a low "flat" tax, maybe around 3% for everyone (ideally no income tax at all, but that'll never happen), abolish the estate tax and other incredibly stupid things, and stop importing things we can make here (i.e. everything).

Boom. Problem solved. Theoretically. In practice, not going to work out like that because people suck, but y'know.

I see...I ask because of the fact that.

Social policy. I'm good with.

Foreign Affairs. I'm pretty good there.

Political Analysis of Governments. Pretty Solid on this aspect.

but economics kill me. It's just hard to put my faith in one when another seems appealing due to other looks on it and due to the fact the world keeps changing some styles go obsolete or new styles become possible...and then there are economic forms that haven't even been tried yet and thus are hard to see if they would work or not. I'm admit this is whete the Changing thing happens. Economics is whete I get flip-floppy.

Miencraft wrote:(ideally no income tax at all, but that'll never happen)

I agree with most of what you say except this. From a political standpoint, eliminating the income tax is entirely possible. Every two decades it's seen major marginal rate reductions. In the 40s, the top rate was 90%. Today it's 39%. But taking account of effective tax rates, the news is even better. Thanks to the Gipper, 95% of income tax revenues come from incomes over $100,000, the top income quintile of Americans. So the tax has already begun to be eliminated, especially since half of America doesn't pay it.

They key from an economic point of view to getting rid of it is cutting spending, which requires tackling spending, which has always been extremely difficult. But we have some hope there too. America elected a President, twice, that spoke frequently about his ideas of partially privatising Social Security, the third rail of American politics, and a surprisingly strong majority of Millenials favour allowing it to become an opt-in system.

I think it could definitely be eliminated in the next few decades, if we manage to elect Republicans that have balls.

Pevvania wrote:if we manage to elect Republicans that have balls.

Problem is doing this, as is electing anyone like this to anything ever again. I say never, but that's just hyperbole; it can happen, I'm aware of that, but just looking at how we've been running along recently, it'll be very difficult and will certainly take quite a bit of time.

We just need some more Reagans, is all, and they're out there. They're just hiding. Incredibly well.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:I see...I ask because of the fact that.

Social policy. I'm good with.

Foreign Affairs. I'm pretty good there.

Political Analysis of Governments. Pretty Solid on this aspect.

but economics kill me. It's just hard to put my faith in one when another seems appealing due to other looks on it and due to the fact the world keeps changing some styles go obsolete or new styles become possible...and then there are economic forms that haven't even been tried yet and thus are hard to see if they would work or not. I'm admit this is whete the Changing thing happens. Economics is whete I get flip-floppy.

TTA, you need to accept Hayek into your life. You need to realise that no central planner or government agency can plan an individual's life better than they can.

Pevvania wrote:TTA, you need to accept Hayek into your life. You need to realise that no central planner or government agency can plan an individual's life better than they can.

But I need my oppressive tax rates and stuff.

^Joking

But still the government is needed for some regulations. If like you said Companies and employees would still be fair let's look at examples...

Minimum Wage

Hayek: Abolishing Minimum wage would cause companies to pay people more fairly.

Real Life: Companies pay cheap money for labor in countries without MW

Safety Regulations

Hayek: Regulations are not needed for safety because companies will implement these because of capitalism anyways

Real Life: I believe there was a fire that many people could've survived if the company had proper safety...but it didn't. That's why there's a regulation.

...and as far as I remember those are the only two things I think government should monitor economically.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:Real Life: I believe there was a fire that many people could've survived if the company had proper safety...but it didn't. That's why there's a regulation.

Fun fact: The real-world building, 1 World Trade Center, has bomb-proof windows to prevent an incident like that from 13 years ago from happening again. Someone failed to realize that some people only managed to escape a more painful death by smashing the windows and jumping. They died, of course, but at least it was instantly upon contact.

There are also some other paradoxical safety things, but I'm too tired to remember any.

This is true, partially. A more competitive job system with lower minimum wages will spur investment back at home and also more employment.

Miencraft wrote:Fun fact: The real-world building, 1 World Trade Center, has bomb-proof windows to prevent an incident like that from 13 years ago from happening again. Someone failed to realize that some people only managed to escape a more painful death by smashing the windows and jumping. They died, of course, but at least it was instantly upon contact.

There are also some other paradoxical safety things, but I'm too tired to remember any.

DIFFERENT BUILDING!

There was a different one... can't remember thw name.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:DIFFERENT BUILDING!

There was a different one... can't remember thw name.

If you're thinking of the Freedom Tower (which is a name I prefer much more than the simple "1 World Trade Center". Much more symbolic and American), that is 1 World Trade.

Of course, it could be a different WTC building I'm thinking of, but since 1WTC was the only one really worked on recently that's the one I'd remember the windows thing about.

My proof that Reagan doomed us all

http://somethgblue.hubpages.com/hub/Nibiru-Planet-X-April-22-2013-Aliens-and-Polar-Shift-are-Linked-by-Cover-Up

http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/01ju2013.htm

http://ultimatesurvival.net/february-26-update-the-latest-news-on-planet-x-and-nibiru/

http://pesn.com/2014/10/14/9602547_Incoming-Nibiru_is_why_Goverments_are_covertly-building_Underground-Cities/

Gangimicklands wrote:My proof that Reagan doomed us all

http://somethgblue.hubpages.com/hub/Nibiru-Planet-X-April-22-2013-Aliens-and-Polar-Shift-are-Linked-by-Cover-Up

http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/01ju2013.htm

http://ultimatesurvival.net/february-26-update-the-latest-news-on-planet-x-and-nibiru/

http://pesn.com/2014/10/14/9602547_Incoming-Nibiru_is_why_Goverments_are_covertly-building_Underground-Cities/

1) I don't know this source

2) I know this source but it's not reliable

3) I don't know this source

4) I don't know this source

Miencraft wrote:If you're thinking of the Freedom Tower (which is a name I prefer much more than the simple "1 World Trade Center". Much more symbolic and American), that is 1 World Trade.

Of course, it could be a different WTC building I'm thinking of, but since 1WTC was the only one really worked on recently that's the one I'd remember the windows thing about.

I'm not thinking of...any Skyscraper. I was thinking of the early 1900s

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Gangimicklands wrote:My proof that Reagan doomed us all

http://somethgblue.hubpages.com/hub/Nibiru-Planet-X-April-22-2013-Aliens-and-Polar-Shift-are-Linked-by-Cover-Up

http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/01ju2013.htm

http://ultimatesurvival.net/february-26-update-the-latest-news-on-planet-x-and-nibiru/

http://pesn.com/2014/10/14/9602547_Incoming-Nibiru_is_why_Goverments_are_covertly-building_Underground-Cities/

I disliked his Military Spending Increase and his Tax decrease while he increased spending, but he was by no means a bad president

Gangimicklands wrote:My proof that Reagan doomed us all

http://somethgblue.hubpages.com/hub/Nibiru-Planet-X-April-22-2013-Aliens-and-Polar-Shift-are-Linked-by-Cover-Up

http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/01ju2013.htm

http://ultimatesurvival.net/february-26-update-the-latest-news-on-planet-x-and-nibiru/

http://pesn.com/2014/10/14/9602547_Incoming-Nibiru_is_why_Goverments_are_covertly-building_Underground-Cities/

Heresy

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:I'm not thinking of...any Skyscraper. I was thinking of the early 1900s

Oh.

Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

But my point is that generally things done "for safety" end up being more dangerous somehow. Usually in outlandish situations, like someone intentionally flying a plane into a building. Occasionally, though, in normal situations as well...

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:Heresy

This is no joke Reagan has brought the end of humanity upon us!

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:Heresy

That reminds me, do we have a regional holiday on June 5?

At the very least, the RLP should acknowledge that particular day as a day of mourning.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:I'm not thinking of...any Skyscraper. I was thinking of the early 1900s

Do you mean the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire?

Miencraft wrote:That reminds me, do we have a regional holiday on June 5?

At the very least, the RLP should acknowledge that particular day as a day of mourning.

The death of Ronald Reagan and birth of Zombie Reagan should definitely be a holiday

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Miencraft wrote:Oh.

Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

But my point is that generally things done "for safety" end up being more dangerous somehow. Usually in outlandish situations, like someone intentionally flying a plane into a building. Occasionally, though, in normal situations as well...

How?

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:Do you mean the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire?

Shirts...YES!

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:How?

Shirts...YES!

Well that didn't have so much to do with safety, I'm pretty sure the owners just didn't trust the workers so they locked the doors and left the building and when the fire broke out nobody could get out. This was also a big game changer when it came to adding in fire escapes to most buildings in NYC and other big cities, on account of there being none.

And I third thing I supported.

Cigarette and GMO labels. Not for mr, but for others.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:And I third thing I supported.

Cigarette and GMO labels. Not for mr, but for others.

But why should we label GMOs? They're healthier than their organic counterparts; if we're labeling anything, label the organics and problems they could have. No science declares there's any health problem with genetic modification, but there's lots of evidence that fully organic foods are contaminated with all sorts of pests and other wastes.

Besides the fact that none of our food is actually organic; we made all of it. Pretty much all food plants as we know them were, at the very least, selectively bred.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:Well that didn't have so much to do with safety, I'm pretty sure the owners just didn't trust the workers so they locked the doors and left the building and when the fire broke out nobody could get out. This was also a big game changer when it came to adding in fire escapes to most buildings in NYC and other big cities, on account of there being none.

So...uh...

Wait Fire escapes weren't invented?

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:So...uh...

Wait Fire escapes weren't invented?

Fire escapes were a thing, they just weren't a common thing because neither were fires.

Forget you people you clearly don't care about the truth you ignorant plebeians!

Gangimicklands wrote:Forget you people you clearly don't care about the truth you ignorant plebeians!

You're just a dumb troll.

In fact, looking at your history, I think you're Dred.

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