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Jordsindia wrote:Problem bruh? Do u even lift bruh?

Yes.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Hmm, okay nevermind.

Why? Did you want to beat me up if I were not?

Rotgeheim wrote:Yes.

You going down son!

Jordsindia wrote:Why? Did you want to beat me up if I were not?

Prolly, it's what he does.

Rotgeheim wrote:You flag looks awfully Arabic in color scheme and organization, breh.

*looks at Jord's flag* Red, white, black

*looks at Rot's flag* Red, white, black

u w0t m8?

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:*looks at Jord's flag* Red, white, black

*looks at Rot's flag* Red, white, black

u w0t m8?

Problem?

The colors are switched around on ours

Jordsindia wrote:Problem?

The colors are switched around on ours

Yeah, your flags look a lot alike. That's the point I was trying to make.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Yeah, your flags look a lot alike. That's the point I was trying to make.

Want me to change it?

Jordsindia wrote:Want me to change it?

No, I meant he was making fun of your flag when his matched the description. Hypocritical humor.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:No, I meant he was making fun of your flag when his matched the description. Hypocritical humor.

Hehehe k ( ͡ ° ͜ʖ ͡ °)

Two introductory factbooks are up! Come check us out!

So after listening to my professor do his lecture on Napoleon, my stance does not change. He was not a good leader.

Woot! Most scientifically advanced! That's what happens when you invest in secret Moon-weapons.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:So after listening to my professor do his lecture on Napoleon, my stance does not change. He was not a good leader.

Napoleon had wild success in domsestic policies of the time. WHy was he not a good leader?

Right-Winged Nation wrote:So after listening to my professor do his lecture on Napoleon, my stance does not change. He was not a good leader.

I would love to tell you how many ways you were wrong, but I would die before I would finish.

Napoleon was not a good leader due to the fact the he ended up completely bankrupting France, due to the fact that he brought back slavery, due to the fact that if you if criticized him you were executed, and due to the fact he foolishly tried to capture Russia in winter. Napoleon was a brilliant military leader, but as a dictator of France he was a horrible ruler. Plus, he was a complete egotistical maniac.

Napoleon also had no interests in bring equality for women, so there is another mark against him.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Napoleon also had no interests in bring equality for women, so there is another mark against him.

bringing

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Napoleon was not a good leader due to the fact the he ended up completely bankrupting France, due to the fact that he brought back slavery, due to the fact that if you if criticized him you were executed, and due to the fact he foolishly tried to capture Russia in winter. Napoleon was a brilliant military leader, but as a dictator of France he was a horrible ruler. Plus, he was a complete egotistical maniac.

I agree, he was just a good strategist, not a great leader. A great leader doesn't sacrifice millions of lives for his own glory, and above all he doesn't abandon his troops like Napoleon did in Russia.

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:I agree, he was just a good strategist, not a great leader. A great leader doesn't sacrifice millions of lives for his own glory, and above all he doesn't abandon his troops like Napoleon did in Russia.

A good leader also doesn't lie to his people and tell them that things are going when are reality they are going horrible, Napoleon did this on more than one account.

His domestic policies were better than his military victories.

You may want to check your facts to because Napoleon stabilized the economy

The Franc was literally the most stable currency in the world

He created a wildly successful education system

He finally allowed people to choose there job and be free to faith

You cannot argue results. With more than 100 military victories to one loss, he was for all intents and purposes, a great military leader. Domestically his policies championed personal liberties and rights as humans than anything seen in France before. So he was a bit self-centered, no one can rule an empire without being such. When you are a national champion and you have conquered the majority of the known world, you have earned the ability to walk a little taller.

He was not perfect and he had things and policies that he implemented that were atrocious and that I never would support, but there is not enough to mask his accomplishments. He conquered the world for France and they adored him, and he deserved it.

Humpheria wrote:You cannot argue results. With more than 100 military victories to one loss, he was for all intents and purposes, a great military leader. Domestically his policies championed personal liberties and rights as humans than anything seen in France before. So he was a bit self-centered, no one can rule an empire without being such. When you are a national champion and you have conquered the majority of the known world, you have earned the ability to walk a little taller.

He was not perfect and he had things and policies that he implemented that were atrocious and that I never would support, but there is not enough to mask his accomplishments. He conquered the world for France and they adored him, and he deserved it.

Renegalis wrote:You may want to check your facts to because Napoleon stabilized the economy

The amount of mass debt he created from war lead to France being bankrupt, he sold Louisiana to America to try to create revenue for France. Humpy, he murdered people who did not agree with him and criticized him, that is not the sign of a "good ruler." He was a warmonger trying to take over the world, and ultimately in the end he failed.

Renegalis wrote:He finally allowed people to choose there job and be free to faith

Not all people were free, look at the French colonies and how brutal slaves were treated there.

And don't forget his putsch while France was a true republic...

Renegalis wrote:He created a wildly successful education system

Napoleon did set up an effective education program, I acknowledge that.

Hey Libertatem is in the top 100 ! Well done !

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:Hey Libertatem is in the top 100 ! Well done !

Yay!

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:And don't forget his putsch while France was a true republic...

^

Yeah but economcally he did phenomenally again the Franc was the most stable money in the world

Renegalis wrote:Yeah but economcally he did phenomenally again the Franc was the most stable money in the world

But it was all for nothing as it was used to finance his own self interests which left France in the hole

Humpheria wrote:You cannot argue results. With more than 100 military victories to one loss, he was for all intents and purposes, a great military leader. Domestically his policies championed personal liberties and rights as humans than anything seen in France before. So he was a bit self-centered, no one can rule an empire without being such. When you are a national champion and you have conquered the majority of the known world, you have earned the ability to walk a little taller.

He was not perfect and he had things and policies that he implemented that were atrocious and that I never would support, but there is not enough to mask his accomplishments. He conquered the world for France and they adored him, and he deserved it.

LOL, walk taller. Napoleon was incredibly short, I don't know if that was on purpose or not but that was pretty great.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:LOL, walk taller. Napoleon was incredibly short, I don't know if that was on purpose or not but that was pretty great.

No, no, he wasn't. The common belief that he was short came from English political cartoons that were distributed to the western world that Napoleon did not control. The popular cartoons displayed him as a small child that doesn't get his way. He was about an inch taller than the average Frenchman.

Jordsindia wrote:u wot?

Wanna get rekd?

You what?*

(Do you) want to get wrecked?*

Pathetic.

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:And don't forget his putsch while France was a true republic...

"True republic..." Because a central government that is ruled by an unelected Committee of revolutionaries who declared themselves in power when they killed the King. A government that ordered the execution of anyone that spoke out against it. A government that executed over 50,000 by official decree.

A "true republic".... sure.

Pevvania wrote:You what?*

(Do you) want to get wrecked?*

Pathetic.

u w0t?**

w4n get rekt s0n?**

fn n00b*

Pathetic.

Humpheria wrote:"True republic..." Because a central government that is ruled by an unelected Committee of revolutionaries who declared themselves in power when they killed the King. A government that ordered the execution of anyone that spoke out against it. A government that executed over 50,000 by official decree.

A "true republic".... sure.

Keep in mind, Napoleon wasn't an angel either, he was a Jacobin full fledged in the Revolution either. In fact, there was a hit on him, but he had to stay out of Paris and be patient.

Humpheria wrote:No, no, he wasn't. The common belief that he was short came from English political cartoons that were distributed to the western world that Napoleon did not control. The popular cartoons displayed him as a small child that doesn't get his way. He was about an inch taller than the average Frenchman.

Hmm, I did not know that, and here I am thinking he was short.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Hmm, I did not know that, and here I am thinking he was short.

That is indeed a common misconception.

Humpheria wrote:"True republic..." Because a central government that is ruled by an unelected Committee of revolutionaries who declared themselves in power when they killed the King. A government that ordered the execution of anyone that spoke out against it. A government that executed over 50,000 by official decree.

A "true republic".... sure.

It's a shame, because the French Revolution was initiated by classical liberals with the intrntnof establishing a republic, but was unfortunately hijacked by socialist thugs. And we all know how France turned out in the end, eh?

So someone tried to mention the brilliance of Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth, so I pulled this up

http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckton/goreerrors.html

Government causes the most pollution. An inconvenient truth

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Government causes the most pollution. An inconvenient truth

That just may be true, but the rest of the film was ridiculous

Humpheria wrote:"True republic..." Because a central government that is ruled by an unelected Committee of revolutionaries who declared themselves in power when they killed the King. A government that ordered the execution of anyone that spoke out against it. A government that executed over 50,000 by official decree.

A "true republic".... sure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Directory

At least the directory organized elections.

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Directory

At least the directory organized elections.

They kinda murdered people though

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Government causes the most pollution. An inconvenient truth

Libertarians are stupid because they blame government for everything!

Alright guys, we have a problem. What should we nationalise to fix it?

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=miencraft_2014_headquarters/detail=factbook

Some factbooks.

Pevvania wrote:Libertarians are stupid because they blame government for everything!

Alright guys, we have a problem. What should we nationalise to fix it?

Gas. Like in 80s Soviet Canada.

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:I would like to make an announcement. Now that the NLP is a kind of stillborn party, as 2 of its 3 originals founders have left Libertatem or its political life, I officially declare it dead.

However, his successor will be the UMR ( Union of moderates and reformists ), which will take back the main ideas of the NLP, such as encourage peace, a new flag, end the war on communism ( meanwhile supporting a strong foreign policy in case of threat for Libertatem ) and promote dialogue between ideologies.

The party will also encourage political diversity in the Libertatem institutions and fight power concentration, and its color will be cornflower blue ( or grey-blue ).

I'm also thinking about promoting the creation of a shadow board with all non-represented parties or opinions.

That's all folks !

Sorry to give you more work to do Pev.

Quick reminder.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:*looks at Jord's flag* Red, white, black

*looks at Rot's flag* Red, white, black

u w0t m8?

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:No, I meant he was making fun of your flag when his matched the description. Hypocritical humor.

It was pretty hypocritical. My flag is obviously based off Imperial Germany's, while I don't know where from Jord got his inspiration.

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:Quick reminder.

Quick question, what is a shadow board?

Humpheria wrote:Quick question, what is a shadow board?

Given the context, I would assume this "shadow board" would be an additional legislative body, conducted in a similar manner to the Board, comprised of nations chosen by those who feel the Board does not represent their parties or interests. In other words, a platform of power for the minority to counterbalance the elected platform of the majority.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Given the context, I would assume this "shadow board" would be an additional legislative body, conducted in a similar manner to the Board, comprised of nations chosen by those who feel the Board does not represent their parties or interests. In other words, a platform of power for the minority to counterbalance the elected platform of the majority.

You do realize that it would have no authority and hold very little influence, correct?

Humpheria wrote:You do realize that it would have no authority and hold very little influence, correct?

It was an educated guess; I obviously don't know for certain whether that's what he means. If so, however, I hope you're right - we already have the House to represent all individuals not in the Board, and we shouldn't expand our government just for the sake of egalitarianism.

What would the point of a shadow board be...there is no legislative power or influence from it that couldn't be given in another way.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:What would the point of a shadow board be...there is no legislative power or influence from it that couldn't be given in another way.

I agree.

hello all would you guys mind to read my factbook? Its still a work in progress but i would like some feedback as to how if it is good or not?

Coumba wrote:hello all would you guys mind to read my factbook? Its still a work in progress but i would like some feedback as to how if it is good or not?

... Which one?

To the argument over Napoleon putting France in debt. That is not even close to being true. The Kingdom of France, under King Louis XV led the nation to bankruptcy through wars, luxury, and money borrowing.

Who else was running for president?

Northern Prussia wrote:Who else was running for president?

Muh Roads ACOP

Like a general one on all of them

More information on my campaign will be available soon.

Coumba wrote:Like a general one on all of them

I recommend using NSwiki.org. It's quite the site. It takes a bit to get used to, but after a while it's just fine. Here's one I created a few months back:

http://nswiki.org/index.php?title=10_Days_War

Updated the rules of the map; You can now commission the construction of your very own landmass if existing lands aren't suitable. I'd be happy to move anyone who wants their own private island or something.

ELECT MIENCRAFT 2014

Both [nation=short]Miencraft[/nation] and [nation=short]Muh Roads[/nation] are strong, experienced, capable candidates that have done much for the region. Vice President Roads has been a committed, dutiful Internal Affairs Manager, and obviously a good friend of mine. I hope that when the time is right, he seeks out and wins the Presidency. But the Miencraft Administration has been far too successful for us to switch streams now.

The important structural reforms laid by President Humpheria have been built upon and expanded under the Mien Administration. While the President could have taken the easy route and impose a mandatory recruitment system on the people, effectively a tax code, he decided to catapult us out of the doldrums of stagnation through activity and volunteerism. In just one week, our population has jumped from 92 to 118 nations - a growth of 28%. Such high rates of growth have not been seen since, well, my Presidency. If the trend is to continue, we may soon top our regional peak of 131 nations. It's bright days indeed for Libertatem.

President Mien has been known for his wry wit as much as his cautious, measured approach to governance. He came to office unexpectedly and on the heels of the sad resignation of President Humpheria. Yet he has met and surpassed all expectations, throwing any doubts of his capability as the executive to the wind. He has worked well with the Board, but has also been hesitant to pass new laws for the sake passing new laws. In fact, only one has been passed during his whole tenure so far, the Bureaucratic Restrictions amendment to the Constitution. If this doesn't demonstrate his cautious pragmatism, little else does.

This has been an administration dedicated to reduction in the size of government. Alongside the President's restraint in passing new laws, the population boom has meant quick and steady reductions in the size of the public sector workforce. When he took office, 12% of Libertatem was employed by the government. Today that number stands at 9% - a cut worth 1/4. The President has opposed any and all attempts at unnecessary expansions in the bureaucracy.

On foreign policy, Mien's short tenure has been one of the most successful in history. Authorised by President Humph and coordinated by Mien, the invasion and destruction of the Congress Of Armed Proletarian States was one of our greatest successes to date in the War on Communism, marking a clear shift in tactics towards more high-risk operations. It was rightly regarded as a gigantic failure - of the Left. The military under Mien's command has also put the formerly bellicose Das Kommune in its place for its numerous crimes against the free people of NationStates. Today, just two months after our 1.5 hour bombing run, the region is a divided, shivering wreck and a shadow of its former self. Libertatem has finally become a force to be reckoned with.

We are stronger, we are prouder, and we are better under President Miencraft. Give him his first election victory if you wish to see:

-A [B]hard line[/B] on the War on Communism until victory is achieved

-A commitment to preserving Article VIII and [B]the principles of our Constitution[/B]

-Pursuing [B]judicial reform[/B] to streamline the legal system and remove points of contention

-Further [B]reductions in the bureaucracy[/B], and the size and scope of government.

A vote for the RLP, and a vote for Mien, is a vote for the Constitution, a vote for strength, a vote against a tax code, and a vote for smaller government. With prosperity at home and prestige abroad, why wouldn't we want to give our President a full term in office?

[B]MIENCRAFT/HUMPHERIA 2014 - PROSPERITY AT HOME AND PRESTIGE ABROAD[/B]

Brings a tear to my eye to think that it was nearly a year ago that I wrote the article 'Dark Horse Rising?', chronicling then-Board Member Miencraft's rise to prominence. How far we've come.

If Pev's speech there doesn't get to you, try imagining Ronald Reagan delivering it.

Miencraft wrote:If Pev's speech there doesn't get to you, try imagining Ronald Reagan delivering it.

Nope still no moving.

Dred Reborn wrote:Nope still no moving.

You're Dred.

You don't count.

How did you know I couldn't count?

Dred Reborn wrote:How did you know I couldn't count?

You're Dred.

You guys in America have watched Seinfeld before, right?

Never a full episode.

Pevvania wrote:You guys in America have watched Seinfeld before, right?

Never extensively, but I may have seen some of it.

Pevvania wrote:You guys in America have watched Seinfeld before, right?

Love Seinfeld, great show

Dred Reborn wrote:Never a full episode.

No wonder why you're a cold, soulless, nonentity.

Miencraft wrote:Never extensively, but I may have seen some of it.

The humour in it would be right up your alley. Very strongly recommend. Probably the greatest show ever made.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Love Seinfeld, great show

"Look to the cookie, Elaine, look to the cookie!"

Pevvania wrote:No wonder why you're a cold, soulless, nonentity.

Thank you I do my best.

Pevvania wrote:No wonder why you're a cold, soulless, nonentity.

The humour in it would be right up your alley. Very strongly recommend. Probably the greatest show ever made.

"Look to the cookie, Elaine, look to the cookie!"

Remember this one: "Uh, I was suppose to get bread with this."

"Bread costs three extra dollars."

"It says that it comes with it."

"You want bread, fine. NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" *snatches bag away from George*

Would you like to get involved in the Miencraft 2014 campaign?

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=miencraft_2014_headquarters/detail=factbook/id=336187

Pevvania wrote:You guys in America have watched Seinfeld before, right?

Such an exucuse for a comedian.

Northern Prussia wrote:Such an exucuse for a comedian.

:(

I've never heard of Seinfeld.... Is that his name?

Hey fun fact everybody! The FFS had an election for tyeir Ministry of Security and he lost to abstention.

Humpheria wrote:I've never heard of Seinfeld.... Is that his name?

Humpy, that is an actor and a tv show

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Humpy, that is an actor and a tv show

Hes actually right.

Hello Ankha it is good see you again.

Ankha wrote:Hes actually right.

How goes it ankha

Midwestren America wrote:Hello Ankha it is good see you again.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:How goes it ankha

Ive been gone cuz my basement (and city) flooded cuz 7 ft of snow and everyones power and wifi went down. Happy to be back though.

*puts on sticker of snowpocolypse survival*

Snowpocolypse: (This is a parking lot.....with cars)

http://imgur.com/ZkuKABB

Ankha wrote:Snowpocolypse: (This is a parking lot.....with cars)

http://imgur.com/ZkuKABB

Lucky, up here in Wisconsin we have only less than an inche of snow right now.

We missed like 2 weeks of school though, cuz snow then floods.

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