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On a mini vacation, please refer to humpy-bear for presidential manners.

Muh Roads wrote:On a mini vacation, please refer to humpy-bear for presidential manners.

Do we get to call him that?

There is nothing stopping you. It's not like humpy bear can punish you.

Morning all.

So, the Obama Administration has begun winding down the NSA's bulk data collection programs: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/243022-administration-moves-to-end-bulk-data-collection

All I can say is: thank you Rand Paul.

The American Empire In Libertatem wrote:There is nothing stopping you. It's not like humpy bear can punish you.

*chuckles*

Hey newcomers, we'd love to see some new faces on here, say hello!

Or don"t, we're a free region you know.

Muh Roads wrote:Hey newcomers, we'd love to see some new faces on here, say hello!

Or don"t, we're a free region you know.

*grumbles*

Miencraft must have a fun job right now.

I've been pushing for special dispensation with regards to the quarantine period...no luck yet.

Toxicflame wrote:I've been pushing for special dispensation with regards to the quarantine period...no luck yet.

What

How do I increase population and economy.

Midland County wrote:What

I didn't want to wait 10 days

Toxicflame wrote:I didn't want to wait 10 days

We generally won't waive the waiting period unless we need you for a military operation or you have resided here before.

Ethnicia wrote:How do I increase population and economy.

You just have to wait for population, and your economy will increase based on how you respond to issues.

Muh Roads wrote:On a mini vacation, please refer to humpy-bear for presidential manners.

You mean I get to be President again? Yes, erm, I mean, ok.

Hallo Island

Muh Roads wrote:Hey newcomers, we'd love to see some new faces on here, say hello!

Or don"t, we're a free region you know.

Yee Haw, Pardner.

Muh Roads

Post self-deleted by South Empire.

Muh Roads wrote:Hey newcomers, we'd love to see some new faces on here, say hello!

Or don"t, we're a free region you know.

Hi. I've been playing this game for a few days. I came from The Pacific and after reading up on their documentation, I speedily joined the region whose recruitment telegram impressed me most; so here I am.

Pevvania, Muh Roads

Muh Roads wrote:Hey newcomers, we'd love to see some new faces on here, say hello!

Or don"t, we're a free region you know.

Hello I'm new to this whole thing

Muh Roads

Hey, I'm new too. I created this first nation a few days ago and joined Libertatem because my nation is, well, liberal.

Muh Roads

Welcome all! If you have any queries or questions, ask me or Miencraft or any other senior member of the region and we'll do our best to answer.

Top tip: if you want to join, start or refound a party, just do so! There are next to no rules on the establishment of political parties, so go nuts!

Surprised to find that Obama is doing some relatively sensible things this year. Relations with Cuba, free trade and closing down bulk collection. Hopefully he and Congress can cut the corporate tax rate in this session too.

Hallo Island wrote:You just have to wait for population, and your economy will increase based on how you respond to issues.

Thankyou

Pevvania wrote:Surprised to find that Obama is doing some relatively sensible things this year. Relations with Cuba, free trade and closing down bulk collection. Hopefully he and Congress can cut the corporate tax rate in this session too.

Obama cutting taxes? Hahahahaha

Pevvania wrote:Surprised to find that Obama is doing some relatively sensible things this year. Relations with Cuba, free trade and closing down bulk collection. Hopefully he and Congress can cut the corporate tax rate in this session too.

What's really going to happen:

https://www.facebook.com/Anarchyball/photos/a.638165932877746.1073741826.628208987206774/1022207391140263/?type=1&theater

Pevvania wrote:Surprised to find that Obama is doing some relatively sensible things this year. Relations with Cuba, free trade and closing down bulk collection. Hopefully he and Congress can cut the corporate tax rate in this session too.

It's his last full year before elections, gotta leave an impression so people vote for his party.

Or something like that.

At least he's not doing ridiculously stupid things.

So, how did you get the region to gain 80 members in five days?

Vichtander In Liberatem wrote:So, how did you get the region to gain 80 members in five days?

I'm a recruiting wizard :p

Pevvania wrote:Welcome all! If you have any queries or questions, ask me or Miencraft or any other senior member of the region and we'll do our best to answer.

Top tip: if you want to join, start or refound a party, just do so! There are next to no rules on the establishment of political parties, so go nuts!

Someone please resurrect my baby...

Hey, I'm new here too.

Kingdom Skye wrote:Hey, I'm new here too.

Welcome to Libertatem!

Question: I don't know how to do anything region wise, who would I be able to ask questions about this stuff?

Kingdom Skye wrote:Question: I don't know how to do anything region wise, who would I be able to ask questions about this stuff?

You can ask away here if you like, most of us are pretty helpful :p

Roads is really a kickass president so far. Called it.

Right-Winged Nation, Muh Roads

Muh Roads wrote:You can ask away here if you like, most of us are pretty helpful :p

Please, share your wizardry secrets with me, [nation=short]Vichtander[/nation], and The Confederation.

Muh Roads, Midland County

Vichtander In Liberatem wrote:Please, share your wizardry secrets with me, [nation=short]Vichtander[/nation], and The Confederation.

I think it's mostly stamps and a well-written recruitment telegram.

Miencraft wrote:I think it's mostly stamps and a well-written recruitment telegram.

This really probably is it :P My reason for being here.

Midland County wrote:Roads is really a kickass president so far. Called it.

Thank ya!

Vichtander In Liberatem wrote:Please, share your wizardry secrets with me, [nation=short]Vichtander[/nation], and The Confederation.

\/This\/

Miencraft wrote:I think it's mostly stamps and a well-written recruitment telegram.

Also you'll need a lucky strike cigarette, a banana, blood of a first born lamb.... er wait that's for Tuesdays party. Just buy stamps and have a well thought out recruitment message.

Enjoy your Memorial day everyone. Thank you to the all the veterans, past and present.

Pevvania

Congrats to Pevvania for highest drug use!

Pevvania, Muh Roads

Isn't it funny that the nations with the best overall stats are called "anarchy"?

Muh Roads, Lionstar Saor

Muh Roads wrote:I'm a recruiting wizard :p

He really is

Muh Roads

Plusiocratic Federation Of Monetia wrote:Isn't it funny that the nations with the best overall stats are called "anarchy"?

Because it's true.

Muh Roads

Plusiocratic Federation Of Monetia wrote:Isn't it funny that the nations with the best overall stats are called "anarchy"?

*redirects attention to the moralistic democracy that is [nation=short]The New United States[/nation]*

The New United States wrote:*redirects attention to the moralistic democracy that is [nation=short]The New United States[/nation]*

Said the homophobe.

Hallo Island wrote:Said the homophobe.

I'm not a homophobe.

Hallo Island wrote:Said the homophobe.

What makes TNUS a homophobe?

Pevvania wrote:What makes TNUS a homophobe?

Right-Winged Nation wrote:So Ireland passed gay marriage

The New United States wrote:Meh

Pevvania wrote:You are joking?

Half.

Hallo Island wrote:

You know what my response is, too?

Meh.

I don't care about what Ireland does, I don't live there.

Miencraft wrote:You know what my response is, too?

Meh.

I don't care about what Ireland does, I don't live there.

It's still a large win for human rights.

Hallo Island wrote:Said the homophobe.

And based just on how inflammatory half of the things you say are, I would wager that I'm much more tolerant than you, and I'm sure that I love homosexuals like you infinitely more than you'd ever love an evil, conservative Christian like me.

Pevvania

Gay leprechauns.

Someone had to say it.

Miencraft, Pevvania, Right-Winged Nation, Vichtander In Liberatem, Midland County

Gay marriage legalisation is a win for equality under the law more than anything else. Marriage is a very personal matter, and 'legalising' it for LGBTs wouldn't really change the institution very much, or society as a whole. It's progress for sure, but it's hardly a very big issue in the grander scheme of things. I resent that people feel they have to look to the state for permission to live their own lives.

Miencraft, Muh Roads, Vie To Vanquish

woo...190 damn.

Look at all the fresh newbloods, ready to fight in the field for capitalism. The socialists better watch out!

The New United States wrote:And based just on how inflammatory half of the things you say are, I would wager that I'm much more tolerant than you, and I'm sure that I love homosexuals like you infinitely more than you'd ever love an evil, conservative Christian like me.

How do you figure?

Post self-deleted by Hallo Island.

Is this about to be one of those holier than thou "Jesus taught love" speeches?

Republic Of Minerva wrote:woo...190 damn.

Look at all the fresh newbloods, ready to fight in the field for capitalism. The socialists better watch out!

I thought it was for freedom, not capitalism..

Vie To Vanquish wrote:I thought it was for freedom, not capitalism..

Synonyms...unless you want to be obstinate like A3, then yes we are fighting for "freedom" as in freedom from socialism of all forms.

Vie To Vanquish wrote:I thought it was for freedom, not capitalism..

What's the difference?

Miencraft, Vichtander In Liberatem

What's A3?

Anyway, my problem with capitalism vs. socialism as a measurement of freedom is that it is only one-dimensional. NationStates, in contrast, uses three dimensions as shown here: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/Updated_NS_Graph.png

The capitalism vs socialism spectrum is only the economic spectrum on here. And while economic freedom is important to me, I take a more moderate stance on it. The only spectrum I'm completely libertarian on is Personal Freedom. To use my personal nation as an example (It fairly well projects my political views), I have a "Left-leaning college state" and will probably in the future lie between it and "Civil-rights lovefest," but I highly doubt I'll ever be "Capitalizt" or "Anarchist."

Vie To Vanquish wrote:What's A3?

Anyway, my problem with capitalism vs. socialism as a measurement of freedom is that it is only one-dimensional. NationStates, in contrast, uses three dimensions as shown here: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/Updated_NS_Graph.png

The capitalism vs socialism spectrum is only the economic spectrum on here. And while economic freedom is important to me, I take a more moderate stance on it. The only spectrum I'm completely libertarian on is Personal Freedom. To use my personal nation as an example (It fairly well projects my political views), I have a "Left-leaning college state" and will probably in the future lie between it and "Civil-rights lovefest," but I highly doubt I'll ever be "Capitalizt" or "Anarchist."

You're going to fit in well here

Vie To Vanquish

Vie To Vanquish wrote:What's A3?

Anyway, my problem with capitalism vs. socialism as a measurement of freedom is that it is only one-dimensional. NationStates, in contrast, uses three dimensions as shown here: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/Updated_NS_Graph.png

The capitalism vs socialism spectrum is only the economic spectrum on here. And while economic freedom is important to me, I take a more moderate stance on it. The only spectrum I'm completely libertarian on is Personal Freedom. To use my personal nation as an example (It fairly well projects my political views), I have a "Left-leaning college state" and will probably in the future lie between it and "Civil-rights lovefest," but I highly doubt I'll ever be "Capitalizt" or "Anarchist."

To be fair, Barry isn't that bright, so I wouldn't trust a scale he came up with.

Pevvania

Also, can we recruit people who know how to read, please? I'm tired of people asking me for citizenship/a spot on the map without having actually read anything that any of that involves.

Miencraft wrote:Also, can we recruit people who know how to read, please? I'm tired of people asking me for citizenship/a spot on the map without having actually read anything that any of that involves.

Seems like kind of a small pool at times.

Miencraft wrote:To be fair, Barry isn't that bright, so I wouldn't trust a scale he came up with.

He is a poor writer and understands very little about economics and public choice theory. Jennifer Government is just one big, messy straw man.

Midland County wrote:You're going to fit in well here

I think so :) I'm actually quite impressed with this region. I just need to set aside time for research in it; I've only yet read the constitution down to the amendments.

Miencraft wrote:To be fair, Barry isn't that bright, so I wouldn't trust a scale he came up with.

I thought so, but regardless, the concept of splitting political philosophies into a multi-dimensional scale is wide-spread. I only chose his because it's directly linked to the game :)

Pevvania wrote:He is a poor writer and understands very little about economics and public choice theory. Jennifer Government is just one big, messy straw man.

It's trashy Salon type fanfic for progressives.

Pevvania

Pevvania wrote:He is a poor writer and understands very little about economics and public choice theory. Jennifer Government is just one big, messy straw man.

You can't only judge him on one of his works. He's done some books that are actually very intriguing, and accurate.

Lionstar Saor

This region's population is almost 200?!?

President Roads confirmed for wizard

Miencraft, Vichtander In Liberatem

Conservative Idealism wrote:This region's population is almost 200?!?

President Roads confirmed for wizard

http://static2.hypable.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/dancing.gif

Miencraft, Vichtander In Liberatem

hai gaiz

honduras proves that libertarianism doesnt work

TAKE THAT ronpaulicans

http://www.salon.com/2015/03/02/my_libertarian_vacation_nightmare_how_ayn_rand_ron_paul_their_groupies_were_all_debunked/

Has anyone read machine man? Out of all his books I think that is the only one I really want to read.

Vichtander In Liberatem

Pevvania wrote:hai gaiz

honduras proves that libertarianism doesnt work

TAKE THAT ronpaulicans

http://www.salon.com/2015/03/02/my_libertarian_vacation_nightmare_how_ayn_rand_ron_paul_their_groupies_were_all_debunked/

What did I just read?

Pevvania, Vichtander In Liberatem

Muh Roads wrote:What did I just read?

Seriously, why did I even go there... why? I should have stopped at salon.com.... but I didn't. I copied and pasted that link and now I feel nothing but anger & sadness inside. =P

Pevvania, Vichtander In Liberatem

Reason should start it's own news channel called RTV.

News with a libertarian lens 24/7, except when there is no news, then South Park episodes.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Reason should start it's own news channel called RTV.

News with a libertarian lens 24/7, except when there is no news, then South Park episodes.

So like a classically liberal Fox News?

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:So like a classically liberal Fox News?

Yes!

Except we'll actually be enlightened unlike those slug brained religious neocons.

Pevvania

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:Did Muh sign MEDAL?

If I didn't I hereby do now.

For the Manager of Internal Affairs, the following nations have been retroactively awarded the Medal of Honor under MEDAL,

Snabagag,

Pevvania,

Humpheria,

Miencraft.

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:For the Manager of Internal Affairs, the following nations have been retroactively awarded the Medal of Honor under MEDAL,

Snabagag,

Pevvania,

Humpheria,

Miencraft.

I'm confused, did you just give yourself a medal?

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:For the Manager of Internal Affairs, the following nations have been retroactively awarded the Medal of Honor under MEDAL,

Snabagag,

Pevvania,

Humpheria,

Miencraft.

https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/f/fc/Soldier_mvm_loot_common02.wav?t=20131122055148

Pevvania

That said, who the hell controls the Law nation?

There are still laws that need to be added to that list.

Miencraft wrote:That said, who the hell controls the Law nation?

There are still laws that need to be added to that list.

I can now, will have to gather the list of laws to be added... some help would be appreciated.

What kinds of libertarians are you guys?

Ronpaulland wrote:What kinds of libertarians are you guys?

Bleeding Heart/minarchist

Ronpaulland wrote:What kinds of libertarians are you guys?

We're all different here of course, but I identify as an anarcho-capitalist.

Hallo Island wrote:I'm confused, did you just give yourself a medal?

Read the bill, Hallo, you voted fo it.

All nations given holidays will retroactively receive the Medal because they now go hand in hand. I was given a holiday under President Miencraft. Pevvania was given a holiday under my administration. Miencraft was given a holiday under President Condealism (if I'm not mistaken).

While not complete, the presidential office is now open for business. Sorry about the delay.

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=muh_roads/detail=factbook/id=413425

Ronpaulland wrote:I'm a voluntarist

Good man.

Ronpaulland wrote:What kinds of libertarians are you guys?

I'd call myself an an-cap, personally.

There are also some conservatives. We accept everybody.

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:Miencraft was given a holiday under President Condealism (if I'm not mistaken).

I don't know what holiday I got or when it is, but I'll believe you. :P

What Kind of Libertarian Are You?

Your Result: Classical Liberal

89%

Classical liberals agree with the words of the Declaration of Independence: That all people have basic human rights, and that the sole legitimate function of government is to protect those rights. Most of the Founding Fathers, and most of the European philosophers who influenced them, were classical liberals.

84%

Geolibertarian

63%

Libertarian Partisan

62%

Paleolibertarian

34%

Objectivist

23%

Neolibertarian

0%

Anarchist

0%

Anarcho-Capitalist

http://www.gotoquiz.com/results/what_kind_of_libertarian_are_you

Oh? I know what kind of Libertarian I am...I mean it's in my name, but I'll take this quiz.

Your Result: Geolibertarian -84%

83%Paleolibertarian

61%Classical Liberal

44%Libertarian Partisan

30%Objectivist

10%Neolibertarian

0%Anarchist

0%Anarcho-Capitalist

Bad test. I am a Philosophical anarchist (AND NO THAT ISN'T A CHANGE IN IDEOLOGY).

It is a belief in

1. Decentralization of the State until you can't reduce it without harming society.

2. Legalization and Decriminalization of actions until legalizing something breaks society.

3. No moral obligation to obey an unjust law.

So Technically this is just Centrist Libertarianism taken to a more anarchic Social form since the economics will fall on the people to decide based on decentralization.

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