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On behalf of the Central Pacific Empire

Dear All,

First of all, my apologies for the long message. I am [nation=short]Conta[/nation], the Leader of the CPE Festival, an event commemorating three years of the Central Pacific Empire. I have already to written to you leader/founder/delegate about this however I would now like to personally extend an invitation to you all to send a puppet nation or travel with your main nation to our region for this event. I believe a major contribution to our region has been the support of our embassy regions, like yours. It would mean a lot and enhance the sentimental meaning of this event if our friends in ally regions joined us to celebrate this fantastic milestone, please do come and encourage as many as possible from your region to attend, we'll be very happy to receive you.

The Festival will commence with an opening speech from our own Prime Minister and long-term citizen, [nation]Latin and Central America[/nation] on Thursday 6th August 2015. I'd like to ask all guests to arrive in the Central Pacific Empire on Wednesday 5th August in order to allow an adequate time to welcome and integrate one another. However, if this isn't possible then that is fine.

I would appreciate it if you contacted either myself ([nation]Conta[/nation]) or [nation]Latin and Central America[/nation] to inform us if you plan on coming. Alternatively, the more preferable option would be all who wish to come inform your leader/founder/delegate and get them to collate a list/rough estimate of how many people are coming. This is simply for our benefit so that we know who to expect and can cater the event to the amount of people coming.

Thanks in advance and I very much hope you choose to join us for this special occasion,

[nation]Harlow East[/nation], a puppet of [nation]Conta[/nation], Lead Organizer of the Inaugural CPE Festival 2015

Pevvania, International Union For Peace, Sweden And Finland

Harlow East wrote:On behalf of the Central Pacific Empire

Dear All,

First of all, my apologies for the long message. I am [nation=short]Conta[/nation], the Leader of the CPE Festival, an event commemorating three years of the Central Pacific Empire. I have already to written to you leader/founder/delegate about this however I would now like to personally extend an invitation to you all to send a puppet nation or travel with your main nation to our region for this event. I believe a major contribution to our region has been the support of our embassy regions, like yours. It would mean a lot and enhance the sentimental meaning of this event if our friends in ally regions joined us to celebrate this fantastic milestone, please do come and encourage as many as possible from your region to attend, we'll be very happy to receive you.

The Festival will commence with an opening speech from our own Prime Minister and long-term citizen, [nation]Latin and Central America[/nation] on Thursday 6th August 2015. I'd like to ask all guests to arrive in the Central Pacific Empire on Wednesday 5th August in order to allow an adequate time to welcome and integrate one another. However, if this isn't possible then that is fine.

I would appreciate it if you contacted either myself ([nation]Conta[/nation]) or [nation]Latin and Central America[/nation] to inform us if you plan on coming. Alternatively, the more preferable option would be all who wish to come inform your leader/founder/delegate and get them to collate a list/rough estimate of how many people are coming. This is simply for our benefit so that we know who to expect and can cater the event to the amount of people coming.

Thanks in advance and I very much hope you choose to join us for this special occasion,

[nation]Harlow East[/nation], a puppet of [nation]Conta[/nation], Lead Organizer of the Inaugural CPE Festival 2015

Will there be beer?

Miencraft, Kings Island, Humpheria, Right-Winged Nation, Midland County, Sweden And Finland

Sweden And Finland wrote:Does anyone have tips for my factbook?

Pevvania wrote:Will there be beer?

This is an important question.

Kings Island, Pevvania

International Union For Peace wrote:Yes before 1991 people were poor, but here is one thing you missed out, people were poor because money was worthless, things were not monetized, the government owned most things and provided most things, 95% of the workers were employed by the government in state industries. Money is not everything, if you ever lived in a socialist state you would know, people had a lot of things, all these things were state issued not bought, no one had money, no one needed money.

Poverty? yeah a lot of Indians were poor, poor of what? green paper(a.k.a monney), they got what they needed, why bother with money, capitalism just provided a monetary value to things, people had state issued homes, that home was after the economic reforms of 1991 made available for sale to the market, voila the people are rich(earlier you could not put a cost to that house, because you were not allowed to sell it)

Monetizing things people own, adding that monney to people's value makes people get out of poverty, but guess what they had that thing before that asset was capitalized and yo they now have capital, in India a thousand state companies were sold, all that money was added to government coffers, capitalist logic-->the government is richer.

In Cuba money buys few things, is money a collectors item? Why would Cubans get money, and where would they get the money from? They get free transportation, free housing, free healthcare, free phones. Now would you like to collect money brother. Money =/= an awesome life, hard for someone who has lived in the US to understand, visit the Nordic countries sometime.

Economics is irrelevant to socialism, because socialism makes money useless, money is an old institution established by the monarchy to collect taxes(what the libertarians actually oppose), if you want freedom, abolish money, economics only affects people's lives when money controls their life, take the money out, and you won't need the economics.

From 1991 onwards my parents' disposable income doubled every 3 years(this is the reason capitalism finds massive support among Indian millenials and those who joined the workforce after 1991), but the current generation growing up(including me) owe no loyalty to capitalism, jobs are hard to come by, when they do our incomes are at best equal to our parents, nothing more, pre-2010 it was not rare to make triple of what your dad makes, as your first pay.

Discounting the necessity of money? How utterly moronic. Money is merely a medium of exchange to make trading and resource distribution easier. This Learn Liberty video explains it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkyBnaYCUhw

But those are all lies. India had a currency before 1991, and Cuba has a currency now, the peso. Money is a reflection of value. Stop shifting the goalposts, and face the facts: India was far poorer before market reforms and Cuba is still very poor! So what if it eliminated mother-baby HIV transmission? This is a country that forcefully aborts fetuses that show a hint of illness. Ruthlessly killing babies until you get the 'correct' result is a sickening way to build utopia.

How Capitalism is Undermining the Indian Caste System: http://www.cato.org/blog/how-capitalism-undermining-indian-caste-system?utm_content=buffer8ce64&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Kings Island, Rateria, Sweden And Finland

Gonzales v. Reich: proving that conservatives will give up their commitment to economic freedom and the 10th Amendment to pursue anti-drug social conservative idiocy since 2005.

Rateria, International Union For Peace, Sweden And Finland

International Union For Peace wrote:

And also, saying that "economics is oppressive because it means I have to get a job" is sort of like saying "science is oppressive because it doesn't let me grow wings and fly".

Kings Island, Rateria, Sweden And Finland

Study: Sin Taxes, Occupational Licensing Hold Back the Poor

http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/study-sin-taxes-occupational-licensing-hold-back-the-poor/

Sweden And Finland

~~Board Vote Commencing~~

Embassies with World Space Administration and Philosophy 115.

I vote aye on both.

~~24 Hour Board Discussion Commencing~~

Embassies with Gay and Texas.

Sweden And Finland

Hallo Island wrote:~~Board Vote Commencing~~

Embassies with World Space Administration and Philosophy 115.

I vote aye on both.

~~24 Hour Board Discussion Commencing~~

Embassies with Gay and Texas.

How do I get on to the board?

Nay to the World Space Administration vote. It will be a sad day for the region when we allow ourselves to officially form relations with the offspring of that band of thieves that calls itself the World Assembly.

I abstain from the vote on Philosophy 115.

Sweden And Finland

The New United States wrote:Nay to the World Space Administration vote. It will be a sad day for the region when we allow ourselves to officially form relations with the offspring of that band of thieves that calls itself the World Assembly.

I abstain from the vote on Philosophy 115.

Can you explain your abstention?

International Union For Peace, Sweden And Finland

Sweden And Finland wrote:How do I get on to the board?

Get elected.

International Union For Peace, Sweden And Finland

Muh Roads wrote:If it's so wrong, why does it bother you so? IS VALUE OF LABOR PROPERTY???

I finally come back online to and you have finally changed your flag, and I forget what it exactly was and can no longer respond.

It bothered me as it was incorrect, as I TGed you.

Have Gay and Texas at least said that they would accept embassies, if we were to send them?

The New United States wrote:Have Gay and Texas at least said that they would accept embassies, if we were to send them?

Texas is deliberating with their cabinet, and things actually really look positive. I haven't quite gotten a clear answer from Gay, but their founder and several citizens seem encouragingly receptive.

International Union For Peace

Midland County wrote:Can you explain your abstention?

Are you just ignoring this, Mr. Board Transparency?

International Union For Peace

Midland County wrote:Are you just ignoring this, Mr. Board Transparency?

No. I'm at work and do not have the time to answer such a question during my water breaks.

I've been nothing but respectful in my manner, as far as I can recall, and I don't appreciate your snark. Put aside your dislike for my political opinions; you don't hear me being rude just because I disagree with you.

Gay and Texas (what a combo) would make great embassy partners.

The New United States, Hallo Island, Rateria, Midland County, International Union For Peace, Reaganomic Nws

Someone needs to make a region called Gay Texas.

Rateria, Midland County, The American Empire In Libertatem, International Union For Peace, Sweden And Finland

Hallo Island wrote:~~Board Vote Commencing~~

Embassies with World Space Administration and Philosophy 115.

I vote aye on both.

~~24 Hour Board Discussion Commencing~~

Embassies with Gay and Texas.

Nay.

Aye.

Here we go, Gay Texas

Humpheria, Right-Winged Nation, Rateria, Condealism, Midland County, International Union For Peace, Reaganomic Nws

AYE to both

International Union For Peace

Right-Winged Nation wrote:So brokeback mountain?

Or... not.

Humpheria wrote:Or... not.

Then what is Gay Texas

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Then what is Gay Texas

A Conservative Christian's worst nightmare.

Right-Winged Nation, Rateria, International Union For Peace

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Then what is Gay Texas

Brokeback Mountain = Gay Wyoming

https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/funny-king-of-the-hill-0.jpg

Right-Winged Nation

Midland County wrote:Texas is deliberating with their cabinet, and things actually really look positive. I haven't quite gotten a clear answer from Gay, but their founder and several citizens seem encouragingly receptive.

I support embassies with Gay and Texas. I would prefer it, though, if we could get confirmation on whether or not they'll accept embassies before we vote.

I would be very grateful if you could, if at all possible, manage to find out before our vote begins.

The Colossus Doctrine

"With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!""

Under a Humpherian administration Libertatem would adopt the Colussus Doctrine. The namesake being the immortal poem, "The New Colussus", inscribed on the American Statue Liberty.

Libertatem will institute a policy of inclusion to all. The weary, the down trodden, the intellectuals, the philosophes, every soul in the Nationstates universe will be welcome. We will live up to our latin namesake of liberty, for all.

I ask that you all join me in this Colossus movement. Libertatem, it's time for the Colossus Doctrine.

Miencraft, Kings Island, Pevvania, The New United States, Right-Winged Nation, Condealism, Midland County, International Union For Peace

Muh Roads wrote:Mien, when are we opening up your department again? We've got folks waiting.

Very soon; just got back to the States and will be able to work full steam tomorrow and over the weekend, and should hopefully be ready by Monday, sooner if people who will not take the test want to help me make it.

Humpheria wrote:The Colossus Doctrine

"With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!""

Under a Humpherian administration Libertatem would adopt the Colussus Doctrine. The namesake being the immortal poem, "The New Colussus", inscribed on the American Statue Liberty.

Libertatem will institute a policy of inclusion to all. The weary, the down trodden, the intellectuals, the philosophes, every soul in the Nationstates universe will be welcome. We will live up to our latin namesake of liberty, for all.

I ask that you all join me in this Colossus movement. Libertatem, it's time for the Colossus Doctrine.

yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes

Humpheria, International Union For Peace

Can the motto for Gay Texas be "Everything's Bigger In Texas"?

Rateria, Condealism, International Union For Peace, Sweden And Finland

Hallo Island wrote:Can the motto for Gay Texas be "Everything's Bigger In Texas"?

*Cue drumroll for joke*

Rateria

Hallo Island wrote:Can the motto for Gay Texas be "Everything's Bigger In Texas"?

Pretends not to get the joke as i update the Gay Texas WFE.*

We're going to need to put a hold on voting for embassies with Texas. Their cabinet discussion on embassies takes "sometimes months".

Does anyone have tips for building my Factbook?

Hello everybody.

I am new here.

Humpheria, International Union For Peace

News

The CEO has announced that elections will be held in a month's time and is in tune with recent calls for more Government transparency. The ruling Capitalist Action Party is still very popular due to increased economic growth and increased employment possibilities.

The Intergalactic Universe Corporation wrote:News

The CEO has announced that elections will be held in a month's time and is in tune with recent calls for more Government transparency. The ruling Capitalist Action Party is still very popular due to increased economic growth and increased employment possibilities.

The Socialist Worker's Party has announced its campaign which is to work for the people and nationalise businesses for the greater good of the populace. Their popularity is still very low.

The Intergalactic Universe Corporation wrote:News

The CEO has announced that elections will be held in a month's time and is in tune with recent calls for more Government transparency. The ruling Capitalist Action Party is still very popular due to increased economic growth and increased employment possibilities.

The Intergalactic Universe Corporation wrote:The Socialist Worker's Party has announced its campaign which is to work for the people and nationalise businesses for the greater good of the populace. Their popularity is still very low.

The Libertarian Party has also launched a new manifesto, which is "Liberty, Freedom & Rights For All", and they promise to improve civil rights when in power.

Okay how the f*ck is trump being taken seriously? I mean come on, he is not the conservative he claims to be and everyone thinks he is a "straight talker". While he is a very successful business man he has had three companies go bankrupt and he hasn't even given anyone his plan for the economy, he just keeps going on about mexicans and dumbasses are going: You tell them Trump. The man is a publicity stunt, WTF????

Miencraft, The New United States, Humpheria, Muh Roads, Hallo Island, The American Empire In Libertatem

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Okay how the f*ck is trump being taken seriously? I mean come on, he is not the conservative he claims to be and everyone thinks he is a "straight talker". While he is a very successful business man he has had three companies go bankrupt and he hasn't even given anyone his plan for the economy, he just keeps going on about mexicans and dumbasses are going: You tell them Trump. The man is a publicity stunt, WTF????

He was created so that we can have our daily dose of comedy.

Right-Winged Nation, Rateria

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Okay how the f*ck is trump being taken seriously? I mean come on, he is not the conservative he claims to be and everyone thinks he is a "straight talker". While he is a very successful business man he has had three companies go bankrupt and he hasn't even given anyone his plan for the economy, he just keeps going on about mexicans and dumbasses are going: You tell them Trump. The man is a publicity stunt, WTF????

I was hoping that Trump's imbecilic remarks about McCain's military service would be suicide for that fraud's aspirations. Nope.

Rand Paul's campaign has kind of flopped, too. :(

Miencraft, Hallo Island, International Union For Peace

International Union For Peace wrote:He was created so that we can have our daily dose of comedy.

I guess so, but how are people so stupid?

The New United States wrote:I was hoping that Trump's imbecilic remarks about McCain's military service would be suicide for that fraud's aspirations. Nope.

Rand Paul's campaign has kind of flopped, too. :(

It makes me sad because he is going into poor inner cities and volunteering which I thought was a good strategy. And trump is a jackass, "I like people who weren't captured". Trump had no right to make those comments

International Union For Peace

Right-Winged Nation wrote:I guess so, but how are people so stupid?

Some people just like to see the world burn, frankly I am also one of them.

Right-Winged Nation

Well, looks like I got the test finished way the hell faster than I planned.

If anyone who does not plan on taking it would like to look through it and see if it's sufficient, go right on ahead.

The TABLOID act is a nuisance. It forces all board members to sift through all 200+ RMB messages every day for proposed legislation and embassies, and forces me to sift through messages to find votes.

Hallo Island wrote:The TABLOID act is a nuisance. It forces all board members to sift through all 200+ RMB messages every day for proposed legislation and embassies, and forces me to sift through messages to find votes.

There should have been a region made for Board voting...

Humpheria

Hallo Island wrote:The TABLOID act is a nuisance. It forces all board members to sift through all 200+ RMB messages every day for proposed legislation and embassies, and forces me to sift through messages to find votes.

I'll be more than happy to do your job.

Also, before the WSA and Philosophy 115 votes are finalized, I'd like to request an election for the empty seat.

International Union For Peace

Hallo Island wrote:The TABLOID act is a nuisance. It forces all board members to sift through all 200+ RMB messages every day for proposed legislation and embassies, and forces me to sift through messages to find votes.

WSA - 2 Ayes (Hallo, RWN), 2 Nays (Hump, TNUS), and one person hasn't voted (Midland)

Philosophy 115 - 3 Ayes (Hallo, Humpy, RWN), 1 Abstain (TNUS), and one person hasn't voted (Midland)

There are easy ways to keep track of the votes. Why don't you, as Chairman, just have us telegram you with our vote, in addition to the RMB?

Tyrinth, International Union For Peace

The New United States wrote:WSA - 2 Ayes (Hallo, RWN), 2 Nays (Hump, TNUS), and one person hasn't voted (Midland)

Philosophy 115 - 3 Ayes (Hallo, Humpy, RWN), 1 Abstain (TNUS), and one person hasn't voted (Midland)

There are easy ways to keep track of the votes. Why don't you, as Chairman, just have us telegram you with our vote, in addition to the RMB?

Isn't Midland no longer a board member?

Hallo Island wrote:Also, before the WSA and Philosophy 115 votes are finalized, I'd like to request an election for the empty seat.

The New United States wrote:WSA - 2 Ayes (Hallo, RWN), 2 Nays (Hump, TNUS), and one person hasn't voted (Midland)

Philosophy 115 - 3 Ayes (Hallo, Humpy, RWN), 1 Abstain (TNUS), and one person hasn't voted (Midland)

There are easy ways to keep track of the votes. Why don't you, as Chairman, just have us telegram you with our vote, in addition to the RMB?

Oh, yeah, I forgot that Midland was no longer on the Board. My mistake.

Also, for all intents and purposes:

THE CITIZENSHIP TEST IS READY.

The usual prerequisites for citizenship still apply. Applications will not be taken from anyone who does not meet the pre-existing requirements for citizenship, and therefore those who do not meet the requirements are ineligible for the test.

As of right now, existing citizens are not required to take the test, but it is encouraged to do so because there is no consequence for failure as a citizen (unless you're one of those that decided that there should be one and will give up citizenship upon failure) and participation in the test will help improve it over the long term.

Existing citizens who wish to take the test should tell me now; you don't have any application to fill out, but please tell me if you agree to the new Citizenship Agreement and if you'd like to have your citizenship revoked if you fail.

Hallo Island wrote:Also, before the WSA and Philosophy 115 votes are finalized, I'd like to request an election for the empty seat.

Hallo Island wrote:The TABLOID act is a nuisance. It forces all board members to sift through all 200+ RMB messages every day for proposed legislation and embassies, and forces me to sift through messages to find votes.

That's why we vote via telegram and put results on the RMB

Miencraft wrote:There should have been a region made for Board voting...

Or that is an option.

Miencraft wrote:Also, for all intents and purposes:

THE CITIZENSHIP TEST IS READY.

The usual prerequisites for citizenship still apply. Applications will not be taken from anyone who does not meet the pre-existing requirements for citizenship, and therefore those who do not meet the requirements are ineligible for the test.

As of right now, existing citizens are not required to take the test, but it is encouraged to do so because there is no consequence for failure as a citizen (unless you're one of those that decided that there should be one and will give up citizenship upon failure) and participation in the test will help improve it over the long term.

Existing citizens who wish to take the test should tell me now; you don't have any application to fill out, but please tell me if you agree to the new Citizenship Agreement and if you'd like to have your citizenship revoked if you fail.

I want to take the test, but how should I?

I desperately want to become a citizen.

Miencraft wrote:Also, for all intents and purposes:

THE CITIZENSHIP TEST IS READY.

The usual prerequisites for citizenship still apply. Applications will not be taken from anyone who does not meet the pre-existing requirements for citizenship, and therefore those who do not meet the requirements are ineligible for the test.

As of right now, existing citizens are not required to take the test, but it is encouraged to do so because there is no consequence for failure as a citizen (unless you're one of those that decided that there should be one and will give up citizenship upon failure) and participation in the test will help improve it over the long term.

Existing citizens who wish to take the test should tell me now; you don't have any application to fill out, but please tell me if you agree to the new Citizenship Agreement and if you'd like to have your citizenship revoked if you fail.

You member?

Hallo Island wrote:Also, before the WSA and Philosophy 115 votes are finalized, I'd like to request an election for the empty seat.

Any candidates, y'all?

3 dead in Lousiana, would the libertarians here explain to me how they love their personal liberty to carry guns, after all government is bad, we should all live the way we want, buying guns is our fundamental right and all that bollocks.

Please for the sake of humanity, grow up libertarians before more people die.

The New United States wrote:Any candidates, y'all?

Kings Island and American Empire, probably.

International Union For Peace wrote:3 dead in Lousiana, would the libertarians here explain to me how they love their personal liberty to carry guns, after all government is bad, we should all live the way we want, buying guns is our fundamental right and all that bollocks.

Please for the sake of humanity, grow up libertarians before more people die.

Good sure the guns are not the cause of death, humans are the ones that pulled the trigger.

Rateria

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Good sure the guns are not the cause of death, humans are the ones that pulled the trigger.

Why did that human had that trigger? Why should any civilian have access to that trigger? As far as I know triggers kill, so why give them to a mental patient, or a know criminal, how smart is that. Never expected you to support the NRA after so much that we have been through, those were real people who died, they had real friends and family, real mothers, brothers, fathers.

International Union For Peace wrote:Why did that human had that trigger? Why should any civilian have access to that trigger? As far as I know triggers kill, so why give them to a mental patient, or a know criminal, how smart is that. Never expected you to support the NRA after so much that we have been through, those were real people who died, they had real friends and family, real mothers, brothers, fathers.

Hah. Straight to Muh NRA Bogeyman.

International Union For Peace wrote:Why did that human had that trigger? Why should any civilian have access to that trigger? As far as I know triggers kill, so why give them to a mental patient, or a know criminal, how smart is that. Never expected you to support the NRA after so much that we have been through, those were real people who died, they had real friends and family, real mothers, brothers, fathers.

Criminals lose their rights to own guns, the problem is the tight regulations on guns. Restrictions create black markets and more crime, is that what you want? When alcohol was banned the problem was more crime created by the ban. If you ban guns, more gun violence will occur

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Criminals lose their rights to own guns, the problem is the tight regulations on guns. Restrictions create black markets and more crime, is that what you want? When alcohol was banned the problem was more crime created by the ban. If you ban guns, more gun violence will occur

Criminals don't lose their right to own guns in Louisiana (look up gun laws in Indiana). Anyways aren't criminals free to live their life without government intervention.

U.K. has gun control laws, they don't seem to have a problem, hell all of Europe has gun control laws, they don't seem to have a problem, even India, Japan have gun control laws, they are doing fine. The entire world has drug control laws, do we see more drugs as a result?

Post self-deleted by International Union For Peace.

Prohibition was a mess because alcohol was very popular as well as addictive, guns are neither popularly owned nor addictive.

Whoop, I'm the smartest!

International Union For Peace wrote:Criminals don't lose their right to own guns in Louisiana (look up gun laws in Indiana). Anyways aren't criminals free to live their life without government intervention.

U.K. has gun control laws, they don't seem to have a problem, hell all of Europe has gun control laws, they don't seem to have a problem, even India, Japan have gun control laws, they are doing fine. The entire world has drug control laws, do we see more drugs as a result?

Yes as a matter of fact you do. Underground operations where drugs are smuggled and dealt, people are murdered and killed. And have you seen switizerland? They have high gun ratios and they are doing just fine. The law is if you are arrested you are no longer allowed to own fire arms.

Oh, please still be doing this when I get back to my computer...

International Union For Peace wrote:Prohibition was a mess because alcohol was very popular as well as addictive, guns are neither popularly owned nor addictive.

Uh you do realize america has the most guns to people ratio according to the 2014 census right?

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Uh you do realize america has the most guns to people ratio according to the 2014 census right?

Guns are still not as popularly used as alcohols, neither are they addictive.

International Union For Peace wrote:Guns are still not as popularly used as alcohols, neither are they addictive.

I can tell firsthand some people find guns addictive. They go to shooting ranges and they hunt with them, there are people that find guns appealing

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Yes as a matter of fact you do. Underground operations where drugs are smuggled and dealt, people are murdered and killed. And have you seen switizerland? They have high gun ratios and they are doing just fine. The law is if you are arrested you are no longer allowed to own fire arms.

In Switzerland military personnel keep their weapons at home and are allowed to keep them after leaving the military. More than half of their adults own assault rifles.

It's why there's hardly any crime. Burgle someone and they'll have an assault rifle at the ready.

Rateria

Kings Island wrote:In Switzerland military personnel keep their weapons at home and are allowed to keep them after leaving the military. More than half of their adults own assault rifles.

It's why there's hardly any crime. Burgle someone and they'll have an assault rifle at the ready.

Well guns kill people, You are wrong! Grow up libertarians

Humpheria wrote:You member?

Eh?

Just come telegram me and I'll send you the test.

Hallo Island wrote:Kings Island and American Empire, probably.

I said I would run for seat one a few days ago. It must have gotten buried.

Kings Island wrote:In Switzerland military personnel keep their weapons at home and are allowed to keep them after leaving the military. More than half of their adults own assault rifles.

It's why there's hardly any crime. Burgle someone and they'll have an assault rifle at the ready.

To be fair, I believe that if they keep them after active service the auto function is disabled, which means they technically aren't assault rifles anymore.

Though auto is legal over there.

Hallo Island wrote:Kings Island and American Empire, probably.

I was nominated for the Interior Ministry by Humpheria, so I'm letting American Empire run for the board.

International Union For Peace wrote:3 dead in Lousiana, would the libertarians here explain to me how they love their personal liberty to carry guns, after all government is bad, we should all live the way we want, buying guns is our fundamental right and all that bollocks.

Please for the sake of humanity, grow up libertarians before more people die.

Nice emotional argument. Or actually not.

People kill people, no matter the method used. Criminals will get guns regardless of legal status, so why take them from the hands of those who intend to defend themselves?

Since we're playing on emotions, what if a law abiding man was being attacked by a criminal?

The law abider carried a 9mm ruger handgun, with reduced ammo capacity; 7 rounds as regulated by his state ordinance. While the criminal held a .45 ACP carbine with an illegal extended mag holding 12 rounds. The law abider fired... 1.. 2.. 3.. 4.. 5.. 6.. 7.. and missed the law abider had to reloaf. The criminal fired 1.. 2.. 3.. 4.. 5.. 6.. 7.. 8.. and got a direct hit on the law abiding citizen as he struggled to reload under fear.

Miencraft, Pevvania, Rateria

Post self-deleted by Humpheria.

Post by Humpheria suppressed by a moderator.

Humpheria wrote:If one of those people had a firearm, they would not have died, they could have defended themselves. The gunman would be armed either way, obviously.

I, however, am continually disgusted by you. I would give anything to have you look those people's spouses and children in the eyes and tell them that you are using their deaths to further your political point. For the sake of humanity, stop politicizing and at least wait until those people are in the ground before you bastardize their memory by making them significant only as political pawns, you disrespectful deep fried dipstick.

And don't you dare to try to retort that and defend yourself. Have some decency, for once, and just drop it.

Miencraft, Kings Island, The American Empire In Libertatem

I don't know if I should cheer Humpy Bear on or hide......

The American Empire In Libertatem wrote:I don't know if I should cheer Humpy Bear on or hide......

I'm pissed. You don't use dead people for political gain.

Miencraft, Tyrinth, The American Empire In Libertatem

Humpheria wrote:I'm pissed. You don't use dead people for political gain.

You just don't use people for political gain in the first place.

Kings Island, Humpheria, The American Empire In Libertatem

Miencraft wrote:You just don't use people for political gain in the first place.

You just drop politics all together :)

Miencraft

this mass obesity epidemic in america shows that we need stronger fork laws!! if the eater didn't have the fork, then he wouldn't have got fat!!! BAN FORKS NOW

Miencraft, Kings Island, Rateria, Midland County, The American Empire In Libertatem

International Union For Peace wrote:3 dead in Lousiana, would the libertarians here explain to me how they love their personal liberty to carry guns, after all government is bad, we should all live the way we want, buying guns is our fundamental right and all that bollocks.

Please for the sake of humanity, grow up libertarians before more people die.

"4000 dead in 9/11, would the libertarians here explain to me how they love their personal liberty to want to be safe from warrantless wiretaps, searches and seizures, detention and execution without trial, and forced conscription after all government is bad, we should all live the way we want, being safe from random warrantless oppression is our fundamental right and all that bollocks. Please for the sake of humanity, grow up libertarians before more people die."

Miencraft, Kings Island, Right-Winged Nation

Anyone else want to run for the board seat?

Pevvania wrote:this mass obesity epidemic in america shows that we need stronger fork laws!! if the eater didn't have the fork, then he wouldn't have got fat!!! BAN FORKS NOW

Lol. But if every lawmaker had that logic, we would all live in an oppressive dystopia.

Pevvania wrote:"4000 dead in 9/11, would the libertarians here explain to me how they love their personal liberty to want to be safe from warrantless wiretaps, searches and seizures, detention and execution without trial, and forced conscription after all government is bad, we should all live the way we want, being safe from random warrantless oppression is our fundamental right and all that bollocks. Please for the sake of humanity, grow up libertarians before more people die."

Ban steel beams

Kings Island, Pevvania, The New United States

Rateria wrote:Lol. But if every lawmaker had that logic, we would all live in an oppressive dystopia.

http://fee.org/freeman/detail/regulate-the-dating-market

Regulate the Dating Market

Muh Roads wrote:Ban steel beams

Banning steel beams and girders would give us take away many options for building.

Alot of students do bad in school; we should ban grades!

Pevvania, Reaganomic Nws, Sweden And Finland

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