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Federal-Conservative Leer wrote:I have an idea. I may be back soon...

Never mind.

Federal-Conservative Leer wrote:Hey, do we have a representative to REATO?

You're months, if not years, late to the party. The organization hasn't been active since long before its headquarters was refounded by the Conservative League's founder.

Dare I say it...

*sigh*

...if you're truly interested in taking the fight to the communists, I hear there's an organization called Anticom that's still up for that sort of thing. You might consider joining one of their member regions; we're allies with a few.

Nova Condealism wrote:Dare I say it...

*sigh*

...if you're truly interested in taking the fight to the communists, I hear there's an organization called Anticom that's still up for that sort of thing. You might consider joining one of their member regions; we're allies with a few.

Yeah I know of them. I was interested when I was in Conservative League before I went out on my own.

Libertitad

Nova Condealism wrote:Dare I say it...

*sigh*

...if you're truly interested in taking the fight to the communists, I hear there's an organization called Anticom that's still up for that sort of thing. You might consider joining one of their member regions; we're allies with a few.

No. The communist don't need a fight. They will crash and burn themselves.

Nova Condealism

Libertitad wrote:No. The communist don't need a fight. They will crash and burn themselves.

I'm well aware of that. Just thought I'd offer the hawk a flock of his own so the rest of us can go on being doves.

Indeed, there are alternatives to fighting.

Bastians

I'm going to spread my puppets out. I'm still here...

Shirayuki Mizore wrote:The map still a thing around here, or is it inactive like much else?

It exists. You can tell by the date on it that it's been updated recently.

Federal-Conservative Leer wrote:Hey, do we have a representative to REATO?

That, however, does not exist.

Nova Condealism

I archived both the requests I got for map placement, I'll get to you guys soon.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Modern mob rule is a scam. The only legitimate form of mob rule in my eyes is market mobrule - the market is the most mob ruled institution that exists.

Fixed lol

Anyone else who wants to challenge the three senatorial candidates has five days to do so.

My own position is up for grabs at the end of the month if anyone wants to try that, as well.

Even if there's no contest for any of these positions, July is going to be pretty important because the cycle will still count from there.

Muh Roads wrote:Fixed lol

Well the market is ruled by the mob tbh. The mob doesn't like a certain brand of ice-cream? It's discontinued...

Libertitad, Leerian Brasilistan

Do you guys believe that Gary Johnson's FairTax will solve the libertarian "immigrant problem" to welfare? Pev has criticized it before but I am still open to it if it can accomplish completely open borders.

Well, this is likely to be my easiest acquisition of a government seat ever.

Libertitad

http://www.examiner.com/article/new-poll-americans-find-libertarian-party-less-objectionable-than-gop-and-dems

Shirayuki Mizore, Libertitad, Salton Juncture, Leerian Brasilistan, Nova Condealism

Inseparable from the Memoirs of an imperfect Angel.

Miencraft wrote:Anyone else who wants to challenge the three senatorial candidates has five days to do so.

My own position is up for grabs at the end of the month if anyone wants to try that, as well.

Even if there's no contest for any of these positions, July is going to be pretty important because the cycle will still count from there.

Just to spice things up I too will enter the senate race

The United States Of Patriots wrote:Just to spice things up I too will enter the senate race

Well alrighty then.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Well the market is ruled by the mob tbh. The mob doesn't like a certain brand of ice-cream? It's discontinued...

Yep :)

Leerian Brasilistan

chocolate coconut deluxe ice cream

I SHALL NEVER FORGET YOU

The United States Of Patriots, Leerian Brasilistan

What do you guys think about Gary Johnson? The main criticisms I see of him is that he's much too beltway, but keep in mind he does have actual political experience. Do you think Austin Petersen would have been better just because he may have been closer to libertarianism (besides the him rejecting the NAP) and possibly be a better speaker?

Nova Condealism

The Aradites wrote:What do you guys think about Gary Johnson? The main criticisms I see of him is that he's much too beltway, but keep in mind he does have actual political experience. Do you think Austin Petersen would have been better just because he may have been closer to libertarianism (besides the him rejecting the NAP) and possibly be a better speaker?

Yes, I do think Austin would have been better. If at least just a better spokesperson

Johnson isn't the purest Libertarian but the LP needs to have a respectable candidate that a disgruntled R or D wouldn't write off as a nut.

Will vote for Johnson (I did in the primary) and hoping he can get on the stage with Trump and Hillary in a couple debates.

New Jaslandia, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Libertitad, Salton Juncture, Nova Condealism

Petersen would of been a much better speaker, but wouldn't been seen as serious by the establishment, and probably wouldn't be in any polls. He's also too young, I'd rather have him run for senate or governor as a Republican in the next few years and then talk about say, being the nominee for 2024 or 2028.

The United States Of Patriots, Bastians, Nova Condealism

Castaway Island Of Wilson wrote:Johnson isn't the purest Libertarian but the LP needs to have a respectable candidate that a disgruntled R or D wouldn't write off as a nut.

Will vote for Johnson (I did in the primary) and hoping he can get on the stage with Trump and Hillary in a couple debates.

Yeah, I think if there was any election where the Libertarian Party needs a respectable candidate, it's this one. With Clinton and Trump both being historically disliked, people are looking toward the Libertarians for solutions, and when that happens, the people need to see a Libertarian candidate that can effectively present the party as a sane and reasonable third option. It's basically impossible for the Libertarians to win the presidency, but if they poll high enough (I think the number is 15%), they'll get invited to debates and receive federal funding in future elections.

Rateria, Libertitad, Nova Condealism

New Jaslandia wrote:and receive federal funding in future elections.

How ironic.

New Jaslandia, Rateria, Libertitad, Nova Condealism

Miencraft wrote:How ironic.

I consider it restitution for all the pain and suffering the RNC and DNC have put the LP through in trying to stay on the ballot. ;)

New Jaslandia, Rateria, Nova Condealism

I started my day with a DOA, doo-dah, doo-dah..

Castaway Island Of Wilson wrote:Johnson isn't the purest Libertarian but the LP needs to have a respectable candidate that a disgruntled R or D wouldn't write off as a nut.

Will vote for Johnson (I did in the primary) and hoping he can get on the stage with Trump and Hillary in a couple debates.

I concur.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Petersen would of been a much better speaker, but wouldn't been seen as serious by the establishment, and probably wouldn't be in any polls. He's also too young, I'd rather have him run for senate or governor as a Republican in the next few years and then talk about say, being the nominee for 2024 or 2028.

Right. No one can bat a thousand, but all things considered, Johnson's the better Libertarian Party pick in my eyes.

New Jaslandia wrote:Yeah, I think if there was any election where the Libertarian Party needs a respectable candidate, it's this one. With Clinton and Trump both being historically disliked, people are looking toward the Libertarians for solutions, and when that happens, the people need to see a Libertarian candidate that can effectively present the party as a sane and reasonable third option. It's basically impossible for the Libertarians to win the presidency, but if they poll high enough (I think the number is 15%), they'll get invited to debates and receive federal funding in future elections.

Until the Reps and Dems move the goalposts again, of course. Regardless, there's only so much they can do to subvert public interest in libertarianism.

Narland, Bastians

My Inclusiveness and rudeness just increased at the same time. ¯\_(0_0)_/¯

We include everyone--no exceptions. Get in here you! Now! :)

Narland wrote:We include everyone--no exceptions. Get in here you! Now! :)

Are you talking to a ghost?

J

The United States Of Patriots wrote:Are you talking to a ghost?

Just trying to be rudely inclusive. It could work. Kind of like being volunteered, or expectantly apathetic.

The United States Of Patriots

RIP Pev.

Republic Of Minerva

Shirayuki Mizore wrote:RIP Pev.

Here lies President Pevvania V.

He will be missed.

Unrelated, the first and only Senatorial election is in two days. Aradites and Patriots are going to duel to the death for a seat.

That's how it works now, right?

Republic Of Minerva

Miencraft wrote:Here lies President Pevvania V.

He will be missed.

Unrelated, the first and only Senatorial election is in two days. Aradites and Patriots are going to duel to the death for a seat.

That's how it works now, right?

We could do it LCRUA-style and have four people run for three seats - the three with the most votes win the election.

Libertitad

Nova Condealism wrote:We could do it LCRUA-style and have four people run for three seats - the three with the most votes win the election.

That could work.

Of course, the elections are already specifically a day, so it'd probably be better to do it per seat, at least for now.

Nova Condealism

Miencraft wrote:Here lies President Pevvania V.

He will be missed.

Unrelated, the first and only Senatorial election is in two days. Aradites and Patriots are going to duel to the death for a seat.

That's how it works now, right?

I can supply rocks and oversized lions to help spice it up.

Wait. Am I Patriots I mean um I will not be suppling lions.

Bastians

Hi everyone, I'm back from my vacation. The one week that I am out of my home state, a bunch of stuff happens!

The United States Of Patriots

Narland wrote:JJust trying to be rudely inclusive. It could work. Kind of like being volunteered, or expectantly apathetic.

I just got the joke.

It only took me 27 hours

Rateria wrote:Hi everyone, I'm back from my vacation. The one week that I am out of my home state, a bunch of stuff happens!

Where did you go?

The United States Of Patriots wrote:Where did you go?

I went to Alaska.

Narland, Libertitad

Oops, I accidentally ceased to exist. I'm back, though.

As Senator, I will ensure to aid in any way I can to reorganize the government and bring back prosperity to this region. As well, if any one has any questions or suggestions (government related or otherwise) they could directly TG me about it and I encourage any petitioning too because as Senator, I will be sure to keep in contact with the people as much as possible.

Rateria, Bad Libertopia

If I'm elected Senator, stuff will happen. That is all.

Rateria, Salton Juncture

As your senator I will make stuff happen. Come to me with ideas and we will work together to get a plan and law put together and passed . The security of our region will never be in doubt and we will build strong alliances.

thanks

Rateria

Nova Condealism wrote:If I'm elected Senator, stuff will happen. That is all.

Libertitad wrote:As your senator I will make stuff happen. Come to me with ideas and we will work together to get a plan and law put together and passed . The security of our region will never be in doubt and we will build strong alliances.

thanks

Welcome to you-were-the-only-ones-running-for-your-seat-so-you-got-elected-town.

Rateria, Raniketh, Nova Condealism

Patriots requested that his vote for himself be counted, even though he won't be present to vote in the poll.

So, yeah, we have absentee voting.

Deal with it.

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Nova Condealism

Miencraft wrote:Welcome to you-were-the-only-ones-running-for-your-seat-so-you-got-elected-town.

Bum-ba-bum, won't you take me to

Bum-ba-bum, you-were-the-only-ones-running-for-your-seat-so-you-got-elected-towwwn

Bum-ba-bum, won't you take me to

Bum-ba-bum, you-were-the-only-ones-running-for-your-seat-so-you-got-elected-town

Miencraft

The United States Of Patriots wrote:Just to spice things up I too will enter the senate race

is it too late to run

Hyderbourg wrote:is it too late to run

*screams internally*

Nova Condealism wrote:*screams internally*

In my defense I was out of town

Hyderbourg wrote:In my defense I was out of town

For how many weeks?

Hi Libertatem, I always enjoy seeing what kinds of talks and polls are going on here, so good luck to both of the candidates for senate. Also if you guys want to know what is going on in Right to Life, you can view our newsletter here, http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=655996

The Regional Community News Issue #32: Seven Days In The Sun!

http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=635408

Hyderbourg wrote:is it too late to run

Uh, I mean, technically since there are still two seats after this you could run for one of them, but since elections have already begun you probably shouldn't.

There's still President at the end of the month if you want to try for that. You just have to beat me in a duel to the death, is all.

The Rouge Christmas State wrote:Hi Libertatem, I always enjoy seeing what kinds of talks and polls are going on here, so good luck to both of the candidates for senate. Also if you guys want to know what is going on in Right to Life, you can view our newsletter here, http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=655996

Larnion wrote:The Regional Community News Issue #32: Seven Days In The Sun!

http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=635408

I always love these kinds of visits.

New Jaslandia, Rateria, Libertitad, Nova Condealism

Miencraft wrote:Uh, I mean, technically since there are still two seats after this you could run for one of them, but since elections have already begun you probably shouldn't.

There's still President at the end of the month if you want to try for that. You just have to beat me in a duel to the death, is all.

I always love these kinds of visits.

It's the only visits we get now a days...

Nova Condealism

A couple things I'd like to address as a new senator.

Is the Constitution posted on the actual Regional board or just the President's page?

Has there been a justice appointed? I've seem some people posting late for elections for senator so if they want to be involved that would be a great way to go. I also don't know if our rep at WA is active so let's look at that too.

There's been a lot of raids recently so the quicker we can get positions the better.

Libertitad wrote:There's been a lot of raids recently so the quicker we can get positions the better.

We're not in any danger of that, if that's what you're suggesting. The game mechanics work in our favor.

Libertitad

Nova Condealism wrote:We're not in any danger of that, if that's what you're suggesting. The game mechanics work in our favor.

I know, we are lucky to have some weird advantages. I am mostly trying to play gain some senatorial power with selling fear. haha. Let me have fun.

Let's get these positions filled so we are stronger on the homefront.

Raid Level: Orange

No one is going to raid us with a non-executive delegate and a founder unless they are seriously interested in wasting everyone's time.

Miencraft, New Jaslandia, Rateria, Nova Condealism

I don't believe in using fear as a weapon.

Rateria, Salton Juncture

What if we've already been raided and we just don't know it? Spooky.

New Jaslandia, Rateria, Libertitad

One day in the future I'd probably like to try a bit of raiding again for old times sake.

Although with Pev gone and half this region practically dead I don't see that viable at the moment.

I'm currently holding on to some of our trophies as I am still active in the other areas of the game.

Libertitad wrote:A couple things I'd like to address as a new senator.

Is the Constitution posted on the actual Regional board or just the President's page?

Has there been a justice appointed? I've seem some people posting late for elections for senator so if they want to be involved that would be a great way to go. I also don't know if our rep at WA is active so let's look at that too.

There's been a lot of raids recently so the quicker we can get positions the better.

1) The Constitution is on the Second Republic nation, which is now what the Laws link directs to. I'll share that account with trusted leaders once we get everything sorted.

2) Because the first Presidential term technically hasn't started yet, no. But, Humpheria has requested the Justice position, so he'll be it.

3) WA is completely pointless for us. We're largely an anti-WA region and our delegate has no power at all in our government.

4) As I said before, unless someone royally screws up, we're invincible. Which is to say, if someone lets Lib CTE. I'm pretty sure that probably isn't going to happen, since Lib himself is pretty active.

I'd like to be Minister of War again for old times sake.

I mean, it's largely useless position now that the War on Totalitarianism has been abandoned, but yeah. :p

(Am I even on the register? Idk)

Libertitad

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I'd like to be Minister of War again for old times sake.

I mean, it's largely useless position now that the War on Totalitarianism has been abandoned, but yeah. :p

(Am I even on the register? Idk)

You're not a citizen.

I can make you one, I guess.

I don't have any problem giving you the position. I still remember (barely) why you lost it before, but since we're not in the same situation as then I'm sure that won't happen again.

Because if it does you'll be locked in the Presidential Closet for all eternity. Or something. Just don't let whatever the hell happened then happen again.

Republic Of Minerva, Rateria, Libertitad, Nova Condealism

Also the new Constitution provides that we need to clear the banlist. I forgot to do that. I'll go do that. It's three people, won't take long.

Miencraft wrote:You're not a citizen.

I can make you one, I guess.

I don't have any problem giving you the position. I still remember (barely) why you lost it before, but since we're not in the same situation as then I'm sure that won't happen again.

Because if it does you'll be locked in the Presidential Closet for all eternity. Or something. Just don't let whatever the hell happened then happen again.

Must of not been that important then...

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Must of not been that important then...

Have, dammit. Have!

You cannot of something!

Rateria, Bastians, Libertitad, Salton Juncture, Nova Condealism

Miencraft wrote:Have, dammit. Have!

You cannot of something!

I of two cats. Their names be Snowball and Fluffy.

;)

Miencraft, Rateria, Nova Condealism

Aradites is our winrar.

Good job.

The Aradites, Nova Condealism

Miencraft wrote:I don't have any problem giving you the position. I still remember (barely) why you lost it before, but since we're not in the same situation as then I'm sure that won't happen again.

I'd like to offer a looooong-overdue Eighth Presidential pardon for that particular mistake if I haven't already. In fact, I'm pretty sure I have, so...

Miencraft wrote:3) WA is completely pointless for us. We're largely an anti-WA region and our delegate has no power at all in our government.

Down with the WA!

Republic Of Minerva

Nova Condealism wrote:I'd like to offer a looooong-overdue Eighth Presidential pardon for that particular mistake if I haven't already. In fact, I'm pretty sure I have, so...

Even if you haven't, nobody's broken the law anymore anyways!

Rateria, Nova Condealism

Thank you all for electing me as one of the first three Senators of Libertatem, I ensure that I will serve this position at the best of my abilities.

Long Live the New Republic and long live Liberty!

Senator Aradites

New Jaslandia, Humpheria, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Bad Libertopia, Nova Condealism

Hmm. Senator Condealism. I like the sound of that.

New Jaslandia, Humpheria, Rateria

[Anti-open border "libertarian" logic]

> Doesn't want left-leaning voters/illegals coming in

> Because they would take advantage of the welfare system

> Doesn't want that to happen

- Why do you care about the Welfare state now if you are conservative/libertarian?

Republic Of Minerva, Bastians

#FeelTheJohnson

Republic Of Minerva, Rateria, Bastians, Salton Juncture

I was looking at the RMB in North Korea and they were talking about NK and sht yadda yadda western elite oppressors bla bla in NK everyone lives amazingly and work for the good. One thing I don't understand, is why don't they move there if it's so great? There is NOTHING stopping them from doing so and they can't say it will be hard to start a new life because according to them, NK provides all the essential needs for living right there, so there's no excuse!

(Also I love at one point they ask if "freedom of speech/press really a human right?" and then how can it be one, if things like the "right" to bread and water is not provided in our western countries.

Miencraft, New Jaslandia, Rateria, Bastians, Nova Condealism

The Aradites wrote:I was looking at the RMB in North Korea and they were talking about NK and sht yadda yadda western elite oppressors bla bla in NK everyone lives amazingly and work for the good. One thing I don't understand, is why don't they move there if it's so great? There is NOTHING stopping them from doing so and they can't say it will be hard to start a new life because according to them, NK provides all the essential needs for living right there, so there's no excuse!

(Also I love at one point they ask if "freedom of speech/press really a human right?" and then how can it be one, if things like the "right" to bread and water is not provided in our western countries.

People believe whatever they want to believe. I have a hard time getting angry about that nowadays.

Bastians, Libertitad

Nova Condealism wrote:#FeelTheJohnson

#LickTheJohnson

Too far?

New Jaslandia, Rateria, Nova Condealism

Republic Of Minerva wrote:#LickTheJohnson

Too far?

Why would you lick a Presidential candidate?

Nova Condealism wrote:Why would you lick a Presidential candidate?

I like the taste of the salt on his skin.

The Aradites wrote:[Anti-open border "libertarian" logic]

> Doesn't want left-leaning voters/illegals coming in

> Because they would take advantage of the welfare system

> Doesn't want that to happen

- Why do you care about the Welfare state now if you are conservative/libertarian?

I believe it's more of an issue of order of dismantlement than it is an issue of keeping the welfare state around.

Nova Condealism

The Aradites wrote:I was looking at the RMB in North Korea and they were talking about NK and sht yadda yadda western elite oppressors bla bla in NK everyone lives amazingly and work for the good. One thing I don't understand, is why don't they move there if it's so great? There is NOTHING stopping them from doing so and they can't say it will be hard to start a new life because according to them, NK provides all the essential needs for living right there, so there's no excuse!

(Also I love at one point they ask if "freedom of speech/press really a human right?" and then how can it be one, if things like the "right" to bread and water is not provided in our western countries.

I'm not sure how difficult it is to move to North Korea, but some Americans and Westerners actually have visited NK as tourists, though all tourists are accompanied by a guide at all times to ensure visitors only see what the North Korean government wants them to see.

Libertitad, Nova Condealism

The Aradites wrote:[Anti-open border "libertarian" logic]

- Why do you care about the Welfare state now if you are conservative/libertarian?

Because we taxpayers have to pay for it?

Nova Condealism

>incentivizes corporal punishment

>civil rights go up

Riiiight...

New Jaslandia, Rateria, Bastians

Nova Condealism wrote:>incentivizes corporal punishment

>civil rights go up

Riiiight...

There are so many backward consequences for the issues in NationStates.

New Jaslandia, Rateria, Nova Condealism

Congratulations to the newly elected Senators.

I enthusiastically endorse Miencraft for the first President of our our New Libertatem Republic.

I also proudly announce my intention to seek the position of Justice.

Humpheria

New Jaslandia, Rateria, Libertitad, Nova Condealism

Salton Juncture wrote:There are so many backward consequences for the issues in NationStates.

Agreed. Nation States is based on a fantasy reality where real life rules of economics and human nature do not work right.

New Jaslandia, Rateria, Bastians, Salton Juncture, Nova Condealism

Humpheria wrote:I enthusiastically endorse Miencraft for the first President of our our New Libertatem Republic.

It's too bad we didn't have any knights.

BECAUSE THEN THEY'D BE KNIGHTS OF THE OLD REPUBLIC.

New Jaslandia, Rateria, The Aradites, Nova Condealism

The Ambassador To The Clfr wrote:Agreed. Nation States is based on a fantasy reality where real life rules of economics and human nature do not work right.

Max assumes that if there is a free-market, they will become somehow government-like corporations and control everyone. Also, he assumes that people who support free-markets also have no sense of aiding any body voluntarily (somewhat akin to Objectivism).

The Ambassador To The Clfr, Nova Condealism

Fun fact: I am three months away from my three year anniversary in Libertatem.

Miencraft, New Jaslandia, Rateria, Nova Condealism

Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel A.K.A one of the best albums of 2009, have any of y'all listened to Angels Cry, Inseparable, Up out my face, or its a wrap, these are true bops, y'all agree?

I was in the Federal Islands before this and then the Federal Islands 2nd Gen after I think Texacoe or Neutricland flopped

Humpheria, Nova Condealism

Can someone inform me how the War on Communism ended? Was anybody destroyed, repealed from an invasion or had attacks from the left ceased? From my viewpoint it just ended, I wasn't involved in any mission so I'm completely out of the know.

Humpheria, Nova Condealism

go give my factbooks a read tell me what u guys think

Coumba wrote:I was in the Federal Islands before this and then the Federal Islands 2nd Gen after I think Texacoe or Neutricland flopped

Yep. I remember you.

The Aradites wrote:Can someone inform me how the War on Communism ended? Was anybody destroyed, repealed from an invasion or had attacks from the left ceased? From my viewpoint it just ended, I wasn't involved in any mission so I'm completely out of the know.

The War on Communism didn't end. It just packed up and moved somewhere else.

The Aradites wrote:Can someone inform me how the War on Communism ended? Was anybody destroyed, repealed from an invasion or had attacks from the left ceased? From my viewpoint it just ended, I wasn't involved in any mission so I'm completely out of the know.

It just kinda disappeared from our agenda because we had no reason to pursue it anymore.

Nova Condealism

Humpheria wrote:Fun fact: I am three months away from my three year anniversary in Libertatem.

I don't remember when I got here exactly but it must have been late 2012 or early 2013.

We're oooold.

Nova Condealism

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