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Einsiev wrote:Let's make a left turn!...let's make another left turn!...let's make another left turn!...I think I'll make a right turn! Oh s**t.

This.

Pevvania wrote:The Constitution Party has too many contradictory policies. Criminalising "offensive sexual behaviour" and does not sound very constitutional to me. They claim to be staunch fiscal conservatives, but want to enact a massive tariff system.

I'm glad someone else sees the incredible hypocrisy here

This is an investigation report involving The possibility Alchandria commited violations against the Fraud Act. In section 2 it States any citizen is allowed to use puppets but said puppets aren't citizens. Section 3 Subsection II States

Only Citizens of Libertatem may vote in any office or legislative election or referendum. The nation of Urerus relocated from The East Pacific to Libertatem approximately 115 minutes of this typing. As soon as he joined the region he voted for Alchandria. This happened 5 minutes after his founding. Since then he was active while Alchandria was asleep. Hallo has confirmed this. I have taken into account that Pev had sent out 500 recruitment telegrams but those more than likely weren't recieved. The time he sent them has been revealed as two hours before he joined the region. so we can't rule out that he may or may not have received this telegram. I also must note the defenses Contentment during this debate where he took any and every chance to insult me and other observers.

Hello everybody :)

Belliger wrote:Hello everybody :)

greetings and salutations

Einsiev wrote:I hate the Green Party, Libertarian party, Socialist party...etc. Parties like those I don't care for.

The Libertarian Party stands for what the GOP used to believe in, but has since abandoned.

We've had a jump in nations! My recruiting efforts seem to be working. I encourage everyone else to recruit!

Pevvania wrote:The Libertarian Party stands for what the GOP used to believe in, but has since abandoned.

I would argue that the GOP never stood for what the LP stood for, but meh.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I would argue that the GOP never stood for what the LP stood for, but meh.

Harding and Coolidge were very pro-civil liberties. But they weren't activists.

Belliger wrote:Hello everybody :)

Hello there! In the words of Jeff Stacey, wut iz ur politic?

Pevvania wrote:We've had a jump in nations! My recruiting efforts seem to be working. I encourage everyone else to recruit!

Just twenty more before we get that magical 100!

Is the board here? I'm hoping to end the investigation tonight.

The Time Alliance wrote:Is the board here? I'm hoping to end the investigation tonight.

I think it's pretty obvious that the two nations in question are different people. There are some serious flaws in the assertion that Alchandria spawned a puppet to vote for him.

1. Why would he bring one in when he was leading 10-8, 10 minutes before the poll closed?

2. If Urera is his puppet, presumably used solely for helping him win, then why is he still active and enthusiastically answering issues?

3. If the two nations are run by the same person, then why was Urera active when Alchandria was asleep?

The Time Alliance wrote:Is the board here? I'm hoping to end the investigation tonight.

The Board is ready whenever you are.

Pevvania wrote:I think it's pretty obvious that the two nations in question are different people. There are some serious flaws in the assertion that Alchandria spawned a puppet to vote for him.

1. Why would he bring one in when he was leading 10-8, 10 minutes before the poll closed?

2. If Urera is his puppet, presumably used solely for helping him win, then why is he still active and enthusiastically answering issues?

3. If the two nations are run by the same person, then why was Urera active when Alchandria was asleep?

These will be taken into account when debating the end result.

Pevvania wrote:I think it's pretty obvious that the two nations in question are different people. There are some serious flaws in the assertion that Alchandria spawned a puppet to vote for him.

1. Why would he bring one in when he was leading 10-8, 10 minutes before the poll closed?

2. If Urera is his puppet, presumably used solely for helping him win, then why is he still active and enthusiastically answering issues?

3. If the two nations are run by the same person, then why was Urera active when Alchandria was asleep?

I have acknowledged these facts in the above report.

I need everyone to understand. We are finding the truth here about the possibility. I am not prosecuting I'm bringing all the facts together so the board may decide. As Attorney General my job is to find the truth not prosecute against someone whom may be innocent.

I close my case.

The Time Alliance wrote:I have acknowledged these facts in the above report.

I need everyone to understand. We are finding the truth here about the possibility. I am not prosecuting I'm bringing all the facts together so the board may decide. As Attorney General my job is to find the truth not prosecute against someone whom may be innocent.

I close my case.

As do I.

I am writing the opening telegram to the Board now.

Humpheria wrote:I am writing the opening telegram to the Board now.

Okay. Thank you!

Hopefully we can solve this within the next 3 hours.

So my nations Category is Democratic Socialism.

Under Conservative NationStates (which I usually use) it is classified as "Hell"

However under Liberal NationStates it is classified as an "Ordinary Caring Intelligent World Citizens."

I'll use Liberal NationStates.

May I say that after reading your constitution and through a bit of your acts I am in love with your system here and am very excited to witness your next regional election. I look forward to staying in this region and making new friends with the people here.

Belliger wrote:May I say that after reading your constitution and through a bit of your acts I am in love with your system here and am very excited to witness your next regional election. I look forward to staying in this region and making new friends with the people here.

So I'll ask the question. What are your political beliefs?

Please say Social Democratic.

Belliger wrote:May I say that after reading your constitution and through a bit of your acts I am in love with your system here and am very excited to witness your next regional election. I look forward to staying in this region and making new friends with the people here.

More like please don't say Social Democrat i.e. Socialist!

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:More like please don't say Social Democrat i.e. Socialist!

It appears that he believes in a strong military. Unlikely in a Socialist.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:More like please don't say Social Democrat i.e. Socialist!

Social Democratica like Capitalism......

Socialists don't.

Social democracy is a political ideology that officially has as its goal the establishment of democratic socialism through reformist and gradualist methods.

its Socialist

The Time Alliance wrote:So I'll ask the question. What are your political beliefs?

Please say Social Democratic.

I believe in democracy, that everyone should have an equal say in what takes place in their government, that no one is ignored or forgotten and that someone has the same chance as everyone else to help the region progress and move forward. I believe that no matter how much they are criticized or talked badly about that a government always puts its people first without a second thought for without the people there would be no government...I can honestly say that I just may have found such a place and that I look forward to staying in that place with all of you.

Belliger wrote:I believe in democracy, that everyone should have an equal say in what takes place in their government, that no one is ignored or forgotten and that someone has the same chance as everyone else to help the region progress and move forward. I believe that no matter how much they are criticized or talked badly about that a government always puts its people first without a second thought for without the people there would be no government...I can honestly say that I just may have found such a place and that I look forward to staying in that place with all of you.

Well welcome. You are talking to this regions only Economic Leftist. Most specifically a Social Democrat. I run the Centrist Party known as the Democratic-Republican Party. While your here you should join a party.

Your Party is not Centrist its leftist.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Social democracy is a political ideology that officially has as its goal the establishment of democratic socialism through reformist and gradualist methods.

its Socialist

Wrong.

Social Democracy is Socialist Scheming (I.E. Universal Healthcare, Education) within a Capitalistic society.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/social+democracy

The Amarican Empire wrote:Your Party is not Centrist its leftist.

It's Centrist economically and Socially.

The Amarican Empire wrote:http://www.thefreedictionary.com/social+democracy

That's the term fir Democratic Socialism

social democracy

n.

A political theory advocating the use of democratic means to achieve a gradual transition from capitalism to socialism.

The Amarican Empire wrote:social democracy

n.

A political theory advocating the use of democratic means to achieve a gradual transition from capitalism to socialism.

I read it. Here.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_socialism

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy

Yes it gives the Definition you gave me however it says:

"Alternatively, social democracy is defined as a policy regime involving a universal welfare state and collective bargaining schemes within the framework of a capitalist economy."

ok you tell me how Social Democracy is in anyway Capitalist.

You are rather poor at reading...

Alternatively, social democracy is defined as a policy regime involving a universal welfare state and collective bargaining schemes within the framework of a capitalist economy.

It doesn't End Privatization.....

The Amarican Empire wrote:ok you tell me how Social Democracy is in anyway Capitalist.

You can be capitalist so long as the government says its ok and you're "helping" someone

lol,Yes you said that before. that however does not say how it is Capitalist. Free markets with Regulations and the Government controlling major sectors like healthcare is just as free as Freeing a slave from slavery then treating him like a 2nd class citizen.

He's free from Slavery and isn't third class. He should be happy he's free.

The Time Alliance wrote:He's free from Slavery and isn't third class. He should be happy he's free.

BUT TAXES

The Time Alliance wrote:He's free from Slavery and isn't third class. He should be happy he's free.

This is why everyone disagrees with this

Taxes are necessary unless the Government ceases to exist.

The Time Alliance wrote:it would be really cool if Government ceases to exist.

The Time Alliance wrote:Taxes are necessary and the Government should cease to exist.

I didn't even know we could do this

No it wouldn't. You'd have strong people taking unsure advantage of weak people like me. And the defence between them and a Government. There will be NO restrictions.

depends on the tax. A Income tax in Capitalism is like putting someone in a open camp were they are free to do as they want but at the end of the day we will take a fraction of what you work for. how do you think a social democracy would work. perhaps with a income tax of 60%

The Time Alliance wrote:Taxes are unnecessary unless nothing

The Time Alliance wrote:I am a strong independent anarchist who dont need no state!

The Time Alliance wrote:Lysander Spooner is my hero and I have a poster of Rothbard hanging in my room

The only job of the Government is to protect the rights of the people. The Government should focus on that,and not taking heavily. from the people. low tax to fund the Government and Military thats it. No one spends money more wisely then the person that earned it for themselves.

The Time Alliance wrote:Sometimes, when no one is looking, I read the road to serfdom... AND LIKE IT!!

Healthcare for those who try and can't afford it.

I'M NOT AN ANARCHIST....

The Time Alliance wrote:I'M AN ANARCHIST.... AND THINK VOLUNTARY ASSOCIATION IS TOTALLY PLAUSIBLE AT ANY POINT FOR HUMAN SOCIETY

I hate you so much right now.

The Time Alliance wrote:I [B]LOVE[/B] you so much right now.

I love you too man. We should join an anarchist chapter together

..... I would do this to you but my quotes are broken.

The Time Alliance wrote:When I say "Social Democrat" I mean economically illiterate sheeple

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The Amarican Empire wrote:Every night I knell towards DC and give praise to my overload Barack Obama.

Haha haha...haha....hahaha.

The Time Alliance wrote:"Haha haha...haha....hahaha" what I say when people say we need government.

Lack There Of wrote:noted

But I will remember this ingenious device for future reference

Lack There Of wrote:Humpheria is the greatest person I have ever met. I love having the privilege ofknowing him.

Aww, thank you.

The Time Alliance wrote:.....

Catch how their were four dots, but now there's five?

Humpheria wrote:Aww, thank you.

Is this not the best thing since nation states++

Lack There Of wrote:Is this not the best thing since nation states++

I could have some serious fun with this.

Are you guys sure these new recruits aren't invaders...?

Humpheria wrote:I could have some serious fun with this.

I have been if you hadn't noticed

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I love Communism! I wish I could be besties with Karl Marx!

I Wanna meet K.M he's chill.

Anyways. Has the board reviewed the evidence?

The Time Alliance wrote:I Wanna meet K.M he's chill.

For the record, I did not edit this

The Time Alliance wrote:I Wanna meet K.M he's chill.

Anyways. Has the board reviewed the evidence?

We are waiting on two more votes to go public. But, it is pretty much decided.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l46t_nrySg4

What's being decided? Can I get a Telegram or would that be overstepping my boundaries and violate the sovereignty of the board?

The Amarican Empire wrote:http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l46t_nrySg4

Jk

Not going to lie that whole thing was pretty hilarious to read.

Belliger wrote:Not going to lie that whole thing was pretty hilarious to read.

So. Yeah......

Are you planning on joining a party?

The Time Alliance wrote:So. Yeah......

Are you planning on joining a party?

I have yet to look at parties, I shall do that now and get back to you.

Belliger wrote:I have yet to look at parties, I shall do that now and get back to you.

I recommend the Democratic - Republican, Libertarian Objectivist Party or the Anti- Corporatist Parties.

Or if you want, the Imperial Conservative Party.

Einsiev wrote:Or if you want, the Imperial Conservative Party.

Have you thought about joining the Alliance?

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After reading and re-reading through all of the choices this fine region has offered me, I have decided that the party I would like to become a member of is The Democratic-Republican Party if you will have me.

Belliger wrote:After reading and re-reading through all of the choices this fine region has offered me, I have decided that the party I would like to become a member of is The Democratic-Republican Party if you will have me.

Your name has been added to the party membership listing. We wish you a good time in our party.

The Time Alliance wrote:Your name has been added to the party membership listing. We wish you a good time in our party.

I am sure I will enjoy my time in the party, thank you for allowing me to join friend.

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You mean months. Lol.

The Amarican Empire wrote:So how old is everyone?

I am 15,16 in 6 months

It's cool, I got it

So how old is everyone?

I am 15,16 in 6 months

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:I will be 17 in 6 moths

I should be getting paid

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