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Nosam Republic wrote:

Of course I would love Rand Paul to become President but he has the charisma of a dead goldfish. Brilliant guy and proud to call him my Senator.

You're lucky to claim Rand Paul, I'm stuck with crazy Booker and crooked Menendez

Narland, Nosam Republic, Southern Cone

Nosam Republic wrote:This is part of my issue with trump. He had 4 years to drain the swamp yet he hardly did. And when Covid time rolled around he let Fauci run the country for a year. So much for draining the swamp i guess....

I will certainly vote for him if he is the Republican nominee, but I think he's had his time and should step away.

Plus, he's only 4 years younger than Biden, and as old as Reagan was when he left office. Both of whom got struck with dementia. Who knows if Trump is next, he hasn't looked as good in his recent appearances.

I respect that.

I think Trump (like most Americans) didn't realize how malevolent and criminal our public servants are. i was a card carrying JBS member since childhood (and a member of YAF on and off). They have kept track of how evil those in our government have been (and it is worse than the general public suspects). Usurping the Office of the President of the United States, and maliciously framing the President of the United States; maligning his character at every opportunity, and depriving him of his rights under color of law; and then to Reichstag Fire his supporters with a fake insurrection is par for the course in corrupt countries. I was not surprised at the corruption (as this is typical), but saddened to see a post-Constitutional America happen here so soon.

The plan of the trifecta (Democrat Party, MSM and Administrative State) is to keep whoever the GOP President is off balance, constantly harassed and harried, and perpetually impugned with all the criminal maliciousness they think they can get away with. I think Trump will be ready for it this time, and DeSantis will have to take a term to learn the ropes. As Trump's VP he can get a four year head start with it at the Federal level.

Most of my family lives into their 90s (females especially) with their mind generally fit until about 6 months before they go, so I tent to give leeway until the person needs their car keys taken from them. I think Trump can make it another 10 years cognitively.

Fierrol wrote:I generally like DeSantis, but his decision to run seems to me like a strategic blunder. I also don't like that his decision seems to be influenced by some of the RINO donors like Ken Griffin. For better or worse, I do take for granted that Trump is going to be the Republican nominee (although I've been wrong before), and it would be a shame to see him turn DeSantis into the next Low Energy Jeb.

I do like Elder and Ramaswamy, and while I don't expect them to win, I hope they can pull the Overton window in the populist libertarian direction and hold Trump's feet to the fire on topics like abolishing the Department of Education and FBI, or making Schedule F a public topic of discussion, or pressing Trump on why he feels justified in appointing Gina Haspel to the (Deputy) Directorship of the CIA, banning bump stocks by executive order, creating CISA which is now attempting to police our "cognitive infrastructure", a whole array of horrible decisions throughout 2020, and why he didn't pardon Assange for the crime of journalism. Maybe they can find positions in the next administration.

Now, I know Bobby Kennedy is a statist, but he's clear-eyed on a lot of the problems we're facing (and he's gotten better on things like crypto) and I'm hopeful he can move the Overton window for the Dems back to social liberalism from their current neo-Marxist outlook. He is too sympathetic to government as a solution to problems, but I think even he has the potential of being a decent president since he knows who many of the enemies are. I just hope he can avoid what has become the family fate.

Is Dave Smith still looking like he could be the Libertarian nominee?

I hope Elder, Ramaswamy, (and all the Disestablishmentarian GOP candidates) get appointed by the next President into effectve position in government where they can start our return back to Lawful Constitutional due process, limited government, and start trying and duly convicting these bad actors and faithless public servants for their crimes.

Yes. Dave Smith is still amenable to it. His tagline, "Repeal the Entire Progressive Era" is outstanding. He has my druthers right now should the GOP put in an Establishment grunt for presidential nominee.

Fierrol, Nordhessir

Call me suspicious but the concept of the Overton window is a way for tyrants of the mind to make a magnified opinion look normal within a range of opinions in the eyes and ears of targeted audiences regardless of the spread and weight of their very opinions. It keeps them from thinking for themselves, and to keep them second-guessing themselves. I don't buy it as it is inherently unAmerican.

The best way to break the Overton window would be to show it for the narrow-minded thought-mongering constraints of groupthink that it is (if/when it is indeed that). Part of the psy-ops is to have a spread of acceptability ancillary to the the intended synthesis from the dialectic to obfuscate intent. The rock of well reasoned truth with sincere human action is the best way to shatter any falsely imposed narrow-minded opaqueness styled as a window.

I think Ramaswamy, Elder, Scott and others (especially in the Libertarian Party) have the ability to use well reasoned truth in a winsome way to overcome it. The hard workers of the Democrat party aren't going to buy the poverty, serfdom, and authoritarianism that Biden and the far Left is selling for much longer. The message of the Far Left, MSM, and deep state (as well a that of the RINOS, Establishment GOP, etc.) is ringing false and hollow to a majority of Americans.

Fierrol

Narland wrote:Call me suspicious but the concept of the Overton window is a way for tyrants of the mind to make a magnified opinion look normal within a range of opinions in the eyes and ears of targeted audiences regardless of the spread and weight of their very opinions. It keeps them from thinking for themselves, and to keep them second-guessing themselves. I don't buy it as it is inherently unAmerican.

The best way to break the Overton window would be to show it for the narrow-minded thought-mongering constraints of groupthink that it is (if/when it is indeed that). Part of the psy-ops is to have a spread of acceptability ancillary to the the intended synthesis from the dialectic to obfuscate intent. The rock of well reasoned truth with sincere human action is the best way to shatter any falsely imposed narrow-minded opaqueness styled as a window.

I don't know if we are quite in agreement here. The Overton window as I've come to understand it, wasn't invented, so much as it is a description of human social psychology vis a vis politics. If you'll forgive the cliche, it is for better or worse, as American as apple pie. Ideas have a level of popular acceptability that can vary over time, for example it would in all likelihood have been unacceptable to implement a scheme like Social Security in the US in 1789, while I believe it was Eisenhower who observed in the 1950s that it had become politically infeasible to abolish Social Security (and in fact, expanded it in 1954). In this sense Social Security was (or if proposed, would have been) outside the Overton window at the nominal founding of our current government, and now the relationship is inverted.

It's not that the Overton window was created so as to rule over the minds of people, so much as it is a description of natural phenomena, which has been identified and manipulated by the tyrants of the mind for the purposes you describe. It furthermore, can't be abolished as long as there exist political positions which are popularly unacceptable to entertain. As an individual, you are allowed to be that crazy or callous guy who wants to abolish, say Social Security, but if you wanted to be a serious presidential candidate, you'd tank your election if you even entertained it.

Now, if by breaking the Overton window, you mean to overturn in a sudden and dramatic fashion one or more of the bounds of acceptability, this can be achieved although not easily, especially when you don't have popular media on your side and are thus limited in who your ideas can reach. However, I am highly encouraged by the proliferation and increasing adoption of new, independent social media platforms that can bypass the gatekeepers of the mass media and increasingly the gatekeepers of the "Internet 2.0" (i.e. big, centralized sites that at least until recently exercised virtually monopolistic control of online political discourse such as Google, Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter).

Narland wrote:I think Ramaswamy, Elder, Scott and others (especially in the Libertarian Party) have the ability to use well reasoned truth in a winsome way to overcome it. The hard workers of the Democrat party aren't going to buy the poverty, serfdom, and authoritarianism that Biden and the far Left is selling for much longer. The message of the Far Left, MSM, and deep state (as well a that of the RINOS, Establishment GOP, etc.) is ringing false and hollow to a majority of Americans.

Americans, even of the normie left, are increasingly recognizing that Biden and the MSM are rotten, but the cult of the Left is an exacting master. Even if people who are mentally trapped by the bounds of acceptability don't like what they are seeing, they have to:

1) want to seek out the opinions of people that they have been repeatedly told are violent extremists, white supremacists, and other kinds of ignorant, hateful, crazy deplorables,

2) they have to know where to go to be exposed to alternative ideas,

3) they have to be willing to make the cognitive leap that they were wrong (in an iterative way), and

4) in many cases, they have to either keep their new found opinions concealed or be ostracized from their social circles (which can include work, schools, friends, etc).

I want to believe that there will be a groundswell of people who will learn to think outside their currently prescribed bounds, but I can't believe it until I see it. And by then it might not matter because >99% of the media could be AI generated.

Narland

Fierrol wrote:I don't know if we are quite in agreement here. The Overton window as I've come to understand it, wasn't invented, so much as it is a description of human social psychology vis a vis politics. If you'll forgive the cliche, it is for better or worse, as American as apple pie. Ideas have a level of popular acceptability that can vary over time, for example it would in all likelihood have been unacceptable to implement a scheme like Social Security in the US in 1789, while I believe it was Eisenhower who observed in the 1950s that it had become politically infeasible to abolish Social Security (and in fact, expanded it in 1954). In this sense Social Security was (or if proposed, would have been) outside the Overton window at the nominal founding of our current government, and now the relationship is inverted.

It's not that the Overton window was created so as to rule over the minds of people, so much as it is a description of natural phenomena, which has been identified and manipulated by the tyrants of the mind for the purposes you describe. It furthermore, can't be abolished as long as there exist political positions which are popularly unacceptable to entertain. As an individual, you are allowed to be that crazy or callous guy who wants to abolish, say Social Security, but if you wanted to be a serious presidential candidate, you'd tank your election if you even entertained it.

Now, if by breaking the Overton window, you mean to overturn in a sudden and dramatic fashion one or more of the bounds of acceptability, this can be achieved although not easily, especially when you don't have popular media on your side and are thus limited in who your ideas can reach. However, I am highly encouraged by the proliferation and increasing adoption of new, independent social media platforms that can bypass the gatekeepers of the mass media and increasingly the gatekeepers of the "Internet 2.0" (i.e. big, centralized sites that at least until recently exercised virtually monopolistic control of online political discourse such as Google, Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter).

Americans, even of the normie left, are increasingly recognizing that Biden and the MSM are rotten, but the cult of the Left is an exacting master. Even if people who are mentally trapped by the bounds of acceptability don't like what they are seeing, they have to:

1) want to seek out the opinions of people that they have been repeatedly told are violent extremists, white supremacists, and other kinds of ignorant, hateful, crazy deplorables,

2) they have to know where to go to be exposed to alternative ideas,

3) they have to be willing to make the cognitive leap that they were wrong (in an iterative way), and

4) in many cases, they have to either keep their new found opinions concealed or be ostracized from their social circles (which can include work, schools, friends, etc).

I want to believe that there will be a groundswell of people who will learn to think outside their currently prescribed bounds, but I can't believe it until I see it. And by then it might not matter because >99% of the media could be AI generated.

Re: Overton Window

Yes. I agree. I was trying to be humorously paranoid, and make an analogy. Typewritten words does not convey inflection very well. :)

I agreed with Overton on many things. i just learned that he passed in 2003 :( RIP. We disagreed on a few key concepts but nothing that hindered working with them for a return to limited government.

President Eisenhower

We will have to disagree on the reasons for Eisenhower's recalcitrance to his constitutional duty as President. He was an apolitical person who leaned moderate Democrat growing up, and ran his administration as such (a Moderate Democrat). He readily ignored the GOP Platform when it suited him (which was most of the time). His persuasion in the party lead to the disenfranchisement of Constitutionalists, and traditional small government Republicans from national power in the GOP. His desire to build upon and strengthen the rational administrative state ran counter to not just the GOP, but a majority of Americans (according to Gallup) who thought that the government was big enough or too large already.

Re: Normiedom

It took 250 years for the concepts of extreme Liberty to take fruition with just printing press pamphlets, pubversations, open debate, fiery sermons, soapbox speeches, parades, marches on parliament, protests (proper legal sense, not dumbed-down Leftist sens), and force of arms, The moral stupidity of despotism (since the abolition of slavery) tends to weed itself out of the gene pool within a generation or two -- but that is 2 gen born into a hell not of their own making. And countries like Russia have never recovered from the harm that their own despots did to them.

I think that at least 5/8 to 2/3 of the America People will get the message soon enough. It is the 1/3 of the country that wants (or thinks that they want) Soviet style murder hobos running things that needs to be called out more directly with persuasive speech. I am optimistic.

Fierrol

Narland wrote:Re: Overton Window

Yes. I agree. I was trying to be humorously paranoid, and make an analogy. Typewritten words does not convey inflection very well. :)

Sorry, I'm sure I bear some responsibility for this, as I'm prone to interpret things a bit more literally than I probably should. Upon review, I believe I see your rhetorical intent.

Narland wrote:I agreed with Overton on many things. i just learned that he passed in 2003 :( RIP. We disagreed on a few key concepts but nothing that hindered working with them for a return to limited government.

President Eisenhower

We will have to disagree on the reasons for Eisenhower's recalcitrance to his constitutional duty as President. He was an apolitical person who leaned moderate Democrat growing up, and ran his administration as such (a Moderate Democrat). He readily ignored the GOP Platform when it suited him (which was most of the time). His persuasion in the party lead to the disenfranchisement of Constitutionalists, and traditional small government Republicans from national power in the GOP. His desire to build upon and strengthen the rational administrative state ran counter to not just the GOP, but a majority of Americans (according to Gallup) who thought that the government was big enough or too large already.

My memory on Eisenhower's comments are stale to the point of being a weak paraphrase. I also think that his comment on the repeal of Social Security being infeasible (or something to that effect), does nothing to preclude the claim that he may have other motivations for keeping and expanding the program. I am content to defer to your knowledge on the matter.

Perhaps though 1954 is still too early in the life of Social Security for the purpose of my example. If the nation still hadn't warmed up to it by then, I would say they seem to have warmed up to it by now; if not through mere acclimation, then through paying into the system and now wanting to benefit from it. And so, its abolition would still ostensibly fall outside the Overton window... for now.

Narland wrote:Re: Normiedom

It took 250 years for the concepts of extreme Liberty to take fruition with just printing press pamphlets, pubversations, open debate, fiery sermons, soapbox speeches, parades, marches on parliament, protests (proper legal sense, not dumbed-down Leftist sens), and force of arms, The moral stupidity of despotism (since the abolition of slavery) tends to weed itself out of the gene pool within a generation or two -- but that is 2 gen born into a hell not of their own making. And countries like Russia have never recovered from the harm that their own despots did to them.

I think that at least 5/8 to 2/3 of the America People will get the message soon enough. It is the 1/3 of the country that wants (or thinks that they want) Soviet style murder hobos running things that needs to be called out more directly with persuasive speech. I am optimistic.

I want you to be right. I've tended to be deeply disappointed by people since 2020, but as a former blue-pilled libertarian with one ideological foot in the Cathedral, perhaps I shouldn't cast stones from my glass house.

Narland, Nordhessir

Fierrol wrote:Sorry, I'm sure I bear some responsibility for this, as I'm prone to interpret things a bit more literally than I probably should. Upon review, I believe I see your rhetorical intent.

My memory on Eisenhower's comments are stale to the point of being a weak paraphrase. I also think that his comment on the repeal of Social Security being infeasible (or something to that effect), does nothing to preclude the claim that he may have other motivations for keeping and expanding the program. I am content to defer to your knowledge on the matter.

Perhaps though 1954 is still too early in the life of Social Security for the purpose of my example. If the nation still hadn't warmed up to it by then, I would say they seem to have warmed up to it by now; if not through mere acclimation, then through paying into the system and now wanting to benefit from it. And so, its abolition would still ostensibly fall outside the Overton window... for now.

I want you to be right. I've tended to be deeply disappointed by people since 2020, but as a former blue-pilled libertarian with one ideological foot in the Cathedral, perhaps I shouldn't cast stones from my glass house.

Re: Interpretation.

No worries. I had a series of tbi's that make it very hard to assess conversational texting. I went from being a fairly decent room-reader to needing people to help with understanding intent.

Re: Ike

During Eisenhower all the data for a sustainable SS Supplement System looked bright, especially considering the US growth rate, the personal losses of the Great Depression (the previous financial crash of 21 iirc was even more initially devastating (in its wipeout of retirement funds). There was little reason for someone who presided as a moderate Democrat to renege on the promise of personal supplemental retirement accounts. My SS card issued in the early 60s reads "Social Security Account Number" "... this is your account ... do not reveal this number..." "do not use as a means of identification" Even then the US Federal Govt was full enough of bad actors and faithless servants to eventually rob us of even that for the fraud of a "system" that we have now.

Until working for the US govt, I had opted out of Social Security for a Red Star Pension that would have been worth 2.5 million today. But I had to "unenroll" and reinstate my former social security number. In the meanwhile, Congress made it illegal for natural born US Citizens to opt-out while still allowing themselves to opt-out. So I am stuck with the freaking booby prize unless I become a Congressman.

Re: Predicting an Uncertain Future

We live in interesting times.

Fierrol

Happy Memorial Day. May your commemoration be serene and peaceful as we remember our fallen.

Narland wrote:Happy Memorial Day. May your commemoration be serene and peaceful as we remember our fallen.

When any of you guys have time listen to Tim Scott's eulogy speech yesterday to the fallen. It was very poignant and important to listen to

Narland

Biden's tumble is symbolic of what he's done to this country

South Otselic

The Federated States of Southern Cone declare war on The United States Of Patriots for strategic purposes.

Rateria

Southern Cone wrote:The Federated States of Southern Cone declare war on The United States Of Patriots for strategic purposes.

Diplomats from Suzi Island are being evacuated to safe locations we hope we are allowed to fulfill this mission to protect our people

Rateria, Southern Cone

Southern Cone wrote:The Federated States of Southern Cone declare war on The United States Of Patriots for strategic purposes.

The government of Rateria condemns this declaration of war, criticizing it as arbitrary and aggressive. The State Department will issue travel advisories regarding both SC and the USoP.

(OOC: Thanks for starting the RP again. Sorry for accidentally stalling it.)

Auxorii, Southern Cone

Suzi Island wrote:Diplomats from Suzi Island are being evacuated to safe locations we hope we are allowed to fulfill this mission to protect our people

The mission has been completed. Our diplomats are in a safe location. We pray for peace in the region

Auxorii, Rateria, Southern Cone

Southern Cone wrote:The Federated States of Southern Cone declare war on The United States Of Patriots for strategic purposes.

The Emperor and Parliament of South Otselic support Southern Cone's rights to extend their strategic advantages through necessary means.

Rateria, Southern Cone

Hello everyone! I just arrived!

Auxorii

The Free State Of Kennedy wrote:Hello everyone! I just arrived!

I see that you just came. Welcome to Libertatem

Narland

The Free State Of Kennedy wrote:Hello everyone! I just arrived!

Welcome

RIP Pat Robertson.

We didn't agree on much theologically except for the rudiments. He was a visionary in trying to get communication satellite broadcasting going back in the 1970s. In person, he was avid listener who conversed well with those who actually wanted to have a conversation.

The Free State Of Kennedy wrote:Hello everyone! I just arrived!

Welcome

Narland wrote:RIP Pat Robertson.

We didn't agree on much theologically except for the rudiments. He was a visionary in trying to get communication satellite broadcasting going back in the 1970s. In person, he was avid listener who conversed well with those who actually wanted to have a conversation.

That's about how I feel about it.

The left is making a huge mistake in indicting DJT. Yes the obvious crime of unfairly targeting a political opponent but also in giving DJT more to talk about than his 2020 grievances which even many on the right were sick of. They have empowered DJT and his supporters not weakened them.

Narland

I like Tucker's new show

Narland

Suzi Island wrote:I like Tucker's new show

He can improve the presentation but the content is good

Narland

Suzi Island wrote:The left is making a huge mistake in indicting DJT. Yes the obvious crime of unfairly targeting a political opponent but also in giving DJT more to talk about than his 2020 grievances which even many on the right were sick of. They have empowered DJT and his supporters not weakened them.

This is election interference of the worst kind. I hope it backfires. The the OJ Simpson trial split the US down racial lines, and this furthers the split between a Free America and Marxist America. If the LAPD of had been law abiding, honest, and forthcoming, the evidence and the trial would have been cut and dried. Corrupt fed cops and bad actors brazenly attacking the current occupant of the White House's chief political rival in this manner is what I expect in a banana republic, Stalin's Russia or Hitler's National Socialist Germany to do. I think that OJ got away with double-murder personally, and Trump is being framed 6 ways to Sunday just to knock him out of the political arena. If they will do that to him, think of what they will do to middle America when they get around to it.

Suzi Island wrote:I like Tucker's new show

Suzi Island wrote:He can improve the presentation but the content is good

Agree. He has a good awareness of presentation, so once his legal entanglements are out of the way, the sky is the limit.

The state America has gotten to to where people are calling for the imprisonment of political officials with little/no evidence was worrying enough (on both sides), now with the real possibility of a party leader being sent to prison with that little to no evidence is actually scary.

Narland

Nosam Republic wrote:The state America has gotten to to where people are calling for the imprisonment of political officials with little/no evidence was worrying enough (on both sides), now with the real possibility of a party leader being sent to prison with that little to no evidence is actually scary.

There are felony crimes on the books that are instrumental to restoring liberty in the country that have been neglected since the Wilson administration, and actively suppressed by the Hoover FBI. Those are deprivation of rights under color of law / authority, misprisions of felony, and malfeasance (I cannot at 2 am remember the specific type of malfeasance), In the Old West it was an easy five years hard labor for each count. Start with commissioning independent grand juries so the the US Marshal's service and hunt every corrupt cop and bad actors masquerading as the public servants.

If the unamerican Administrative State wants a hot civil war what they are doing is the fastest means to it. I do not think it is by accident. I do not want to see one and will use every lawful means to keep it from happening, but I will be damned if I let the country of my forebears fall to Marxist and Fascist hooligans. They (the bad faith actors) are going to have to fire the first shot. Liberty loving Americans will have to be sure to put an end to their reign of terrorism on the lawful domestic population of this country when it happens, and we all know that it has already begun.

Nosam Republic

Southern Cone wrote:The Federated States of Southern Cone declare war on The United States Of Patriots for strategic purposes.

The USOP is shocked and appalled by this blatant aggression and unjustifiable declaration of war against the peace loving Patriots. The Southern Cone has no valid strategic reason that justifies such and aggressive and immoral act. USOP had previously committed to selling arms and supplies to Southern Cone in their other wars and this is how we are treated?

The USOP calls on all peace loving countries to embargo and sanction Southern Cone for this aggressive act.

Southern Cone

The United States Of Patriots wrote:The USOP is shocked and appalled by this blatant aggression and unjustifiable declaration of war against the peace loving Patriots. The Southern Cone has no valid strategic reason that justifies such and aggressive and immoral act. USOP had previously committed to selling arms and supplies to Southern Cone in their other wars and this is how we are treated?

The USOP calls on all peace loving countries to embargo and sanction Southern Cone for this aggressive act.

FROM THE AUXOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING SYSTEM

The Revolutionary Republic, although standing in defence of USOP, notes the hypocrisy of nations willing to sell arms to aggressive nations and then being shocked when said aggressive nations turns on them, calling on “peace loving countries”.

Libertatem as a region must stand for peace at all times, not just when it is convenient.

As such, the ‘Tatemite Defense Alliance has been calling for an embargo on Southern Cone, the aggressor, since this war began. We must take dire steps now to prevent bloodshed.

The Alliance has now taken the action to sanction the individual President Alessandri of Southern Cone, cutting him off personally from any ‘Tatemite business or entity.

The Alliance has also voted in favour of a naval blockade along the eastern shores of Baffin Island of numerous warships and other military craft from Auxorii, Rateria, Miencraft And Minovdigon and Suzi Island.

Auxorii, as part of this blockade effort, will also begin construction of a high-level and high-security military base in the southern part of Baffin Island - rumours suggest that Premier Joseph Rú may lay a territorial claim for Auxorii over the whole of Baffin Island before Conean forces arrive - though this could not be confirmed.

Auxorii, as well as the rest of the Alliance, would also like to begin talks with Nosam Republic over the ensuing war efforts and the Alliance’s naval blockade close to their borders, as the intention is far from impeding on Nosaman sovereignty.

Rateria, Southern Cone

[quote=auxorii;52464412]FROM THE AUXOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING SYSTEM

The Revolutionary Republic, although standing in defence of USOP, notes the hypocrisy of nations willing to sell arms to aggressive nations and then being shocked when said aggressive nations turns on them, calling on “peace loving countries”.

Libertatem as a region must stand for peace at all times, not just when it is convenient.

The Alliance has also voted in favour of a naval blockade along the eastern shores of Baffin Island of numerous warships and other military craft from Auxorii, Rateria, Miencraft And Minovdigon and Suzi Island.

The Free Republic had negotiations to potentially provide arms to SC but the deal broke down. We are now fully committed to providing arms (considered by many to be the best in the world) to the cause of defending USOP and others whom SC blatantly attacks

Auxorii, Rateria

The Emperor of South Otselic has vetoed an Otselician Neutrality Act put forth by the Imperial Parliament.

Emperor Morgan has commanded the 3rd Naval Carrier Group to conduct war exercises in international waters.

We will not participate in an embargo of Southern Cone, trade will continue. Merchant vessels in and around South Otselic will be escorted by naval vessels to ensure their safety.

Any attenpt at prohibiting a vessel from Southern Cone, or one bearing the Imperial flag, from entering our territorial waters will be considered an intentional act of aggression and responded to with force.

Rateria, Southern Cone

In an emergency legislative session, the Congress of the USOP has passed legislation approving the sale of War Bonds to its citizens and foreign nationals of allied or non-aligned countries. The President has issued mobilization orders and reserved forces are currently being mustered.

News sources have estimated that roughly 12% of the citizenry of the USOP are the prime fighting demographic of 18-25 male, but should conscription become a reality, due to the proselyting efforts of one of the main religions in the area, many of the men of fighting age are out of country.

The said church has requested that its missionaries in the Southern Cone be granted safe travel as they are either reassigned to other locations, or brought back home.

Auxorii, Rateria, Southern Cone

The United States Of Patriots wrote:In an emergency legislative session, the Congress of the USOP has passed legislation approving the sale of War Bonds to its citizens and foreign nationals of allied or non-aligned countries. The President has issued mobilization orders and reserved forces are currently being mustered.

News sources have estimated that roughly 12% of the citizenry of the USOP are the prime fighting demographic of 18-25 male, but should conscription become a reality, due to the proselyting efforts of one of the main religions in the area, many of the men of fighting age are out of country.

The said church has requested that its missionaries in the Southern Cone be granted safe travel as they are either reassigned to other locations, or brought back home.

All missionaries, clergy, and other religious personnel will be afforded the same respect, freedoms, and rights as any civilian and/or non-combatant is entitled to.

Rateria, Southern Cone

Auxorii wrote:Auxorii, as well as the rest of the Alliance, would also like to begin talks with Nosam Republic over the ensuing war efforts and the Alliance’s naval blockade close to their borders, as the intention is far from impeding on Nosaman sovereignty.

The Office of the Chief of Nosam Republic issues that due to the blatant and unjustified aggression from Southern Cone on USOP, Nosam Republic is interested in the proposed naval blockade on Baffin Island. The Chief stipulates that the base should be run by Nosaman officials to protect Nosaman interests in the region.

Nosam Republic also calls on The Alliance to aid The United States Of Patriots due to the continued Conian aggression, and hopes that The Alliance can also assist in constructing military outposts east of the Rio Grande in the unlikely event of an attempted Conian land invasion of Highway Eighty-Eight.

The Republic wishes to finish this war as soon as possible so we can get back to listening to country and bluegrass.

Auxorii, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Southern Cone

After a long silence from the Conish government. A communique has been released, lamenting the situation but reinforcing the government's commitment to reach fascist land, AKA Wisconsin, whether it be by force or reason, Conish forces will reach Wisconsin. And considered the alternatives that the pascifist bloc has provided us with, The Federated States have no other option but to make a military incursion in The United States Of Patriots.

In other news, the state television company, Telesur, have via their news reportage programe announced that "Conish forces have switched their focus from the east coast to the west coast." and that "Conish agents are everwhere. Spying on the enemy".

Rateria

Southern Cone wrote:After a long silence from the Conish government. A communique has been released, lamenting the situation but reinforcing the government's commitment to reach fascist land, AKA Wisconsin, whether it be by force or reason, Conish forces will reach Wisconsin. And considered the alternatives that the pascifist bloc has provided us with, The Federated States have no other option but to make a military incursion in The United States Of Patriots.

In other news, the state television company, Telesur, have via their news reportage programe announced that "Conish forces have switched their focus from the east coast to the west coast." and that "Conish agents are everwhere. Spying on the enemy".

A quarter of the national guard has been stationed around the Auxorii Porto Alegre base, set on stand-by in case Auxorii decides to initiative hostile military action on Conish soil.

Rateria

Southern Cone wrote:A quarter of the national guard has been stationed around the Auxorii Porto Alegre base, set on stand-by in case Auxorii decides to initiative hostile military action on Conish soil.

Auxorii implores Southern Cone to retreat their troops from their current positioning.

The Revolutionary Republic does not see this as a precautionary act by the unpredictable and warfaring regime of Southern Cone, but instead acknowledges it for what it is, a failed but attempted act of intimidation.

Auxorii has granted full Auxor citizenship to all residents of Porte Alegre - as such, such acts of military intimidation will not be tolerated.

The Revolutionary Republic has placed all troops on full stand-by within Porte Alegre; and has stationed a number of battle ready battalions along the border, ready for anything and undeterred. An undisclosed number of warships equipped with advanced range artillery have also been stationed in international waters along the Conean coastline - as close as they can get without entering Conean waters.

Submarines with nuclear capabilities have also been deployed to the area.

The Revolutionary Republic reminds Southern Cone that any engagement with the Auxor Defence Forces will lead to a declaration of war by the entirety of the ’Tatemite Defense Alliance. This is not preferable for anyone; and the Auxor Premier, Joseph Rú, will extend his grace and mercy and engage in official negotiations and peace talks with Southern Cone in response to the full removal of Conean forces from along Porte Alegre.

Rateria

No

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Muh Roads wrote:No

Yes

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Auxorii wrote:Auxorii implores Southern Cone to retreat their troops from their current positioning.

The Revolutionary Republic does not see this as a precautionary act by the unpredictable and warfaring regime of Southern Cone, but instead acknowledges it for what it is, a failed but attempted act of intimidation.

Auxorii has granted full Auxor citizenship to all residents of Porte Alegre - as such, such acts of military intimidation will not be tolerated.

The Revolutionary Republic has placed all troops on full stand-by within Porte Alegre; and has stationed a number of battle ready battalions along the border, ready for anything and undeterred. An undisclosed number of warships equipped with advanced range artillery have also been stationed in international waters along the Conean coastline - as close as they can get without entering Conean waters.

Submarines with nuclear capabilities have also been deployed to the area.

The Revolutionary Republic reminds Southern Cone that any engagement with the Auxor Defence Forces will lead to a declaration of war by the entirety of the ’Tatemite Defense Alliance. This is not preferable for anyone; and the Auxor Premier, Joseph Rú, will extend his grace and mercy and engage in official negotiations and peace talks with Southern Cone in response to the full removal of Conean forces from along Porte Alegre.

The conish government sees this as a red flag implying that conish suspicions are correct, that Auxorii is indeed intending to invade Southern Cone. The Conish goverment is prepared to use any means to defend its mother land, including weapons of mass destruction. Cone is willing to negotiate, however, we will not be deterred from reaching Wisconsin.

Rateria

Southern Cone wrote:The conish government sees this as a red flag implying that conish suspicions are correct, that Auxorii is indeed intending to invade Southern Cone. The Conish goverment is prepared to use any means to defend its mother land, including weapons of mass destruction. Cone is willing to negotiate, however, we will not be deterred from reaching Wisconsin.

FROM THE AUXOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING SYSTEM

MY FELLOW AUXOR & ‘TATEMITES, today there has been more twisting from the Conish government, the aggressor.

Their nation has initiated conflict in this region, their regime has declared war on two nations without cause; and now their troops have been sent to press against sovereign Auxor territory. They have threatened the use of weapons of mass destruction against our people.

This will not be tolerated. We have ordered Southern Cone to completely retreat their troops from the area. We have also stationed highly advanced fleets in the surrounding waters - something we were not willing to do prior to the events of yesterday. There has been a full mobilization in Porte Alegre of all Auxor troops stationed there. We have closed off the city in regards to open movement and we have instated a curfew for citizens. Our main priority is keeping them safe.

I also call on the nations of the ‘Tatemite Defense Alliance to be on full stand-by.

How the Conish government makes a red flag out of a nation having to mobilize to defend itself after troops are pressed up against their borders is beyond us. Their people are smarter and know the truth - and we are stronger.

Southern Cone, these acts of aggression will not be tolerated. Your nation may try to bully others in Libertatem, but Auxorii is, and will always be, undeterred.

Once again - and for the last time - we order Southern Cone to withdraw their troops from around Porte Alegre. In response, we will remove our fleet from international waters and bring them back to our mainland. We will end the full mobilization of our troops within Porte Alegre - but until the withdrawal of troops is complete on your end, this will not happen.

Failure to follow these instructions will breach peace

Failure to follow these instructions will lead to dire consequences for your nation.

Premier of Auxorii,

Joseph Rú

Rateria

In light of recent events, the Raterian military is now on high alert. A flotilla is being sent closer to Porto Alegre, but is staying out of Southern Cone’s territorial waters to avoid accusations of aggression.

The North Atlantic fleet is on high alert to protect the Raterian homeland in case of attack. The Raterian government pleads for peace, but is willing to assist the Alliance as well as any victim of unjust aggression.

Auxorii

The Free Republic is willing to commit what it takes to protect allies

Auxorii, Rateria

BREAKING NEWS

South Otselic National News Network (SONNN)

Emperor Morgan has, once again, bypassed an act of parliament that would have the Empire stand down. The 3rd Carrier Group is being deployed into the Gulf of Mexico and is considering closing the Panama Canal to any vessels not bearing the flags of Southern Cone or South Otselic.

Additionally, he has dismissed the Prime Minister, and for the first time in over 500 years a sitting emperor has begun the process of invoking the divine right of the emperor to rule without the aid of parliament regardless of the will of the people. Could this war be the end of democracy as we know it?

Auxorii, Rateria

After talks with Auxorii South Otselic has entered a non-agression pact with the Republic, Emperor Morgan has reconsidered closing the Panama Canal to their vessels. The canal is now closed to vessels from Southern Cone

The 3rd Carrier Group will remain in Otselician Territorial waters to conduct standard naval exercises.

Auxorii, Rateria

FROM THE AUXOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING SYSTEM

BREAKING NEWS

The peoples of the Revolutionary Republic and His Grace the Premier Joseph Rú congratulate and commend the Emperor on his swift rise to power, and welcome the non-aggression pact with the Empire.

The ‘Tatemite Defense Alliance is to stand-down in the Gulf waters region and not interfere with any Ostelician naval exercises. Indeed, we look for the day where our nations will be conducting these exercises together.

New Auxor intelligence has also found evidence of a terrorist plot, likely orchestrated by the government of Southern Cone, to biologically attack the Revolutionary Republic’s city of London with bubonic plague.

Such attacks would be futile; and due to modern medical advancements, such an attack would be quickly over as plague is most treatable. No casualities would occur, had it, or if it occurs.

The alleged would-be perpetrators of this terrorist act are citizens of Southern Cone and are currently on the run. No trace of them has been found in the past 24 hours and the entire Revolutionary Republic is on high-alert, with the entire public transport system of London closed indefinitely. The Revolutionary Republic recommends that all ‘Tatemite nations be on the lookout for these suspects; and requests their extradition to Auxorii if found.

As there has been no response from Southern Cone on the order to retreat their troops from the borders of Porte Alegre, the Auxor Defence Forces have fired 3 ballistic missiles from the Porte Alegre A.D.F Base, over Southern Cone, through Conean airspace and into the South Pacific ocean, as last resort warning shots.

The Alliance held an emergency meeting to discuss the possibility of engaging with Conean troops - such discussions are still ongoing at the moment.

South Otselic, Rateria, Southern Cone

[quote=auxorii;52485592]FROM THE AUXOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING SYSTEM

BREAKING NEWS

The alleged would-be perpetrators of this terrorist act are citizens of Southern Cone and are currently on the run. No trace of them has been found in the past 24 hours and the entire Revolutionary Republic is on high-alert, with the entire public transport system of London closed indefinitely. The Revolutionary Republic recommends that all ‘Tatemite nations be on the lookout for these suspects; and requests their extradition to Auxorii if found.

Do we have a description of the suspects to be on the lookout for?

Rateria, Southern Cone, Nordhessir

Muh Roads wrote:Maybe

I don't know,

could you repeat the question?

The United States Of Patriots wrote:I don't know,

could you repeat the question?

Do you like crepes?

The government of the Federated States of Southern Cone have informed the Auxorii government that the Federated States are willing to temporarily declare international waters in the Atlantic Ocean and its adjacent inland seas as areas free of military activity, exempting sovereign waters and adjacent exclusive economic zones of respective sovereign state. Additionally, the troops stationed on stand-by around Porto Alegre have been ordered to retreat 250 miles, creating a demilitarized zone. Instead, heavy survelliance equipment and intelligence facilities have been set up around Porto Algre on Conish territory.

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The evening news on state-affiliated TeleSur announced that several prominient politicians of President Alessandri's party, The Independent Party, agreed to bring forth a motion in the Conish parliament to fund a Conish nuclear programe, arguing that in order to at last establish the Southern Cone's position as a superpower, among many things, nuclear deterrent is crucial. Especially with the recent clashes with the Northern Threat (Auxorii) using its colonies to legitimize interfering in New World affairs.

In other news, a large fleet of military seacraft with a smaller amphibian unit is being assembled in the port city of Valparaiso, experts speculate this might be the expect Conish great offensive planned to breach Patriotic territory and land some men to reach Wisconsin.

Rateria

Should any vessels of Southern Cone attempt to travel north of Panama and approach the North American continent the Imperial Navy is prepared to engage. Conish vessels (military and civillian) near Imperial waters will be siezed and their crews held as terrorists. Conish citizens in South Otselic are being detained for reasons connected to "National Security". They will be released upon the immidiate cessation of hostilities.

The Otselician Pacific Fleet has been deployed to the west coast of Panama.

Auxorii, Rateria

Auxorii wrote:FROM THE AUXOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING SYSTEM

BREAKING NEWS

The peoples of the Revolutionary Republic and His Grace the Premier Joseph Rú congratulate and commend the Emperor on his swift rise to power, and welcome the non-aggression pact with the Empire.

The ‘Tatemite Defense Alliance is to stand-down in the Gulf waters region and not interfere with any Ostelician naval exercises. Indeed, we look for the day where our nations will be conducting these exercises together.

New Auxor intelligence has also found evidence of a terrorist plot, likely orchestrated by the government of Southern Cone, to biologically attack the Revolutionary Republic’s city of London with bubonic plague.

Such attacks would be futile; and due to modern medical advancements, such an attack would be quickly over as plague is most treatable. No casualities would occur, had it, or if it occurs.

The alleged would-be perpetrators of this terrorist act are citizens of Southern Cone and are currently on the run. No trace of them has been found in the past 24 hours and the entire Revolutionary Republic is on high-alert, with the entire public transport system of London closed indefinitely. The Revolutionary Republic recommends that all ‘Tatemite nations be on the lookout for these suspects; and requests their extradition to Auxorii if found.

As there has been no response from Southern Cone on the order to retreat their troops from the borders of Porte Alegre, the Auxor Defence Forces have fired 3 ballistic missiles from the Porte Alegre A.D.F Base, over Southern Cone, through Conean airspace and into the South Pacific ocean, as last resort warning shots.

The Alliance held an emergency meeting to discuss the possibility of engaging with Conean troops - such discussions are still ongoing at the moment.

Conish troops will not enter Central or North America.

Auxorii, Rateria

Southern Cone wrote:The government of the Federated States of Southern Cone have informed the Auxorii government that the Federated States are willing to temporarily declare international waters in the Atlantic Ocean and its adjacent inland seas as areas free of military activity, exempting sovereign waters and adjacent exclusive economic zones of respective sovereign state. Additionally, the troops stationed on stand-by around Porto Alegre have been ordered to retreat 250 miles, creating a demilitarized zone. Instead, heavy survelliance equipment and intelligence facilities have been set up around Porto Algre on Conish territory.

The government of the Revolutionary Republic within Port Alegre has begun a massive barrage jamming campaign to thwart such Conish spying operations. Port Alegre will remain secure and impenetrable.

Auxor troops will remain on the border and their position will remain unchanged. Security levels will remain at high-alert and the fleets incoming from the ‘Tatemite Defense Alliance will be allowed entry into Port Alegre and permission to dock; all solidiers from the ‘Tatemite Defense Alliance will be given accommodation in Auxor barracks and receive the same rations and treatment as Auxor troops.

Southern Cone wrote:The evening news on state-affiliated TeleSur announced that several prominient politicians of President Alessandri's party, The Independent Party, agreed to bring forth a motion in the Conish parliament to fund a Conish nuclear programe, arguing that in order to at last establish the Southern Cone's position as a superpower, among many things, nuclear deterrent is crucial. Especially with the recent clashes with the Northern Threat (Auxorii) using its colonies to legitimize interfering in New World affairs.

In other news, a large fleet of military seacraft with a smaller amphibian unit is being assembled in the port city of Valparaiso, experts speculate this might be the expect Conish great offensive planned to breach Patriotic territory and land some men to reach Wisconsin.

The peoples of the Revolutionary Republic and Premier Joseph Rú strongly condemn the recent motion and call on all peace-loving nations to do the same.

Recent polling from Port Alegre shows an overwhelming 84.3% of residents approving of the transition to an Auxor territory, with a significant minority abstaining from answering or answering as undecided. Residents of Port Alegre are free to leave and travel anywhere in the world, with exception to the nation of the Aggressor, which is fully sanctioned.

Discussions are ongoing as to how the ‘Tatemite Defense Alliance will respond to the recent threats of mass destruction, but the Auxor Military Council has resolved to prevent the Aggressor from having a formidable nuclear weapons program at all costs.

South Otselic, Suzi Island, Rateria

South Otselic wrote:Conish troops will not enter Central or North America.

Southern Cone should realize they are fighting a losing battle and quit now

Auxorii, Rateria

Suzi Island wrote:Do you like crepes?

not particularly. their lack of social boundaries falls flat as a pancake and makes me waffle. But without grits for some awareness to flour, there's muffin to be done.

South Otselic

Post self-deleted by Narland.

South Otselic wrote:Should any vessels of Southern Cone attempt to travel north of Panama and approach the North American continent the Imperial Navy is prepared to engage. Conish vessels (military and civillian) near Imperial waters will be siezed and their crews held as terrorists. Conish citizens in South Otselic are being detained for reasons connected to "National Security". They will be released upon the immidiate cessation of hostilities.

The Otselician Pacific Fleet has been deployed to the west coast of Panama.

The Federated States express deep disappointment with the Otselician government as the Federated States had hoped South Otselic would atleast remain neutral. Regardless, the Conish government does not see the Otselician government is a legitimate state with valid reasons to engage Conish fleets. You can not claim entire continents and oceans, and atleast on publically available papers, you are not members of any alliance. However, the Conish government is speculating that Auxorii muted you by paying you, something which the Conish government is willing to negotiate and double whatever Auxorii authorities promised, that is if Auxorii did indeed mute you. If that is indeed not the case though, then your attempts to threaten us and claim a right to intimidate us seems even more senseless and outragerous to us. For the Otselician people, we come in peace, and we are willing to talk. Yet if you insist in interfering on our military affairs with Patriots and Wisconsin, then we are afraid we will have gained another unfortunate bitter enemy.

South Otselic wrote:Conish troops will not enter Central or North America.

South Otselic has no right to interfere and hinder us, there is no valid reason as we have not expressed any aggresion to your nation and have in fact been friendly, and attempt at interference will be considered hostile acts of aggresion and responded with equal force.

Auxorii wrote:The government of the Revolutionary Republic within Port Alegre has begun a massive barrage jamming campaign to thwart such Conish spying operations. Port Alegre will remain secure and impenetrable.

Conish intelligentsia is adapting to the best of its abilities. Results are unclear as of now. An evaluation will be ready in a couple days to measure success.

Auxorii wrote:Auxor troops will remain on the border and their position will remain unchanged. Security levels will remain at high-alert and the fleets incoming from the ‘Tatemite Defense Alliance will be allowed entry into Port Alegre and permission to dock; all solidiers from the ‘Tatemite Defense Alliance will be given accommodation in Auxor barracks and receive the same rations and treatment as Auxor troops.

Conish authorities are closely monitoring the situation and any further development.

Auxorii wrote:The peoples of the Revolutionary Republic and Premier Joseph Rú strongly condemn the recent motion and call on all peace-loving nations to do the same.

Discussions are ongoing as to how the ‘Tatemite Defense Alliance will respond to the recent threats of mass destruction, but the Auxor Military Council has resolved to prevent the Aggressor from having a formidable nuclear weapons program at all costs.

The government reminds Auxorii that The Federated States of Southern Cone is a free sovereign state, free to make its own choices. We will not be intimidated.

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After some heated discussions with the left-leaning wing and right-wing supporting a nuclear programe but the far-left and conish christian democracy opposing it, the vote ultimately fell on a narrow majority approval. it is now the job of the Alessandri regime to include funds for the programe in the next budget proposal coming this autumn and enforce it.

Auxorii wrote:Recent polling from Port Alegre shows an overwhelming 84.3% of residents approving of the transition to an Auxor territory, with a significant minority abstaining from answering or answering as undecided. Residents of Port Alegre are free to leave and travel anywhere in the world, with exception to the nation of the Aggressor, which is fully sanctioned.

Conish authorities lament Porto Alegre's decision but respect it. Any refugees escaping will on the other side of the border be met with open arms and accommodated in order to kickstart their new lives in Southern Cone. A motion is set in the State Parliament of Rio Grande del Sur to establish a social security programe that will focus on receiving Alegrian refugees and help them integrate into Conish society.

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The Valparaiso fleet has finished assembly and is set on stand-by, awaiting further orders.

Suzi Island wrote:Southern Cone should realize they are fighting a losing battle and quit now

OOC: you do realise the time to step back is long gone? doing it now and the Conish government would loose face and legitimacy.

Rateria

Southern Cone wrote:The Federated States express deep disappointment with the Otselician government as the Federated States had hoped South Otselic would atleast remain neutral. Regardless, the Conish government does not see the Otselician government is a legitimate state with valid reasons to engage Conish fleets. You can not claim entire continents and oceans, and atleast on publically available papers, you are not members of any alliance. However, the Conish government is speculating that Auxorii muted you by paying you, something which the Conish government is willing to negotiate and double whatever Auxorii authorities promised, that is if Auxorii did indeed mute you. If that is indeed not the case though, then your attempts to threaten us and claim a right to intimidate us seems even more senseless and outragerous to us. For the Otselician people, we come in peace, and we are willing to talk. Yet if you insist in interfering on our military affairs with Patriots and Wisconsin, then we are afraid we will have gained another unfortunate bitter enemy.

South Otselic has no right to interfere and hinder us, there is no valid reason as we have not expressed any aggresion to your nation and have in fact been friendly, and attempt at interference will be considered hostile acts of aggresion and responded with equal force.

The charge that Auxorii has paid off the Otselician government is laughable, for many reasons. The Premier Joseph Rú maintains that Auxor diplomacy has not and will never be done through bribery - although clearly and unfortunately, this appears to be the Conish way. This is yet another feature of the Aggressor which the Premier strongly condemns.

South Otselic is clearly not muted by the Revolutionary Republic by their commendable responses to the Aggressor in which they have resolved to not let them touch the North American Continent. Their reasoning for having formed relations with Auxorii remains, and will remain, their own.

The Revolutionary Republic & the ‘Tatemite Defense Alliance respect the sovereignty of all nations - the Aggressor has, consistently shown the opposite.

Southern Cone wrote:The government reminds Auxorii that The Federated States of Southern Cone is a free sovereign state, free to make its own choices. We will not be intimidated.

After some heated discussions with the left-leaning wing and right-wing supporting a nuclear programe but the far-left and conish christian democracy opposing it, the vote ultimately fell on a narrow majority approval. it is now the job of the Alessandri regime to include funds for the programe in the next budget proposal coming this autumn and enforce it.

Conish authorities lament Porto Alegre's decision but respect it. Any refugees escaping will on the other side of the border be met with open arms and accommodated in order to kickstart their new lives in Southern Cone. A motion is set in the State Parliament of Rio Grande del Sur to establish a social security programe that will focus on receiving Alegrian refugees and help them integrate into Conish society.

The Valparaiso fleet has finished assembly and is set on stand-by, awaiting further orders.

While the Aggressor is a sovereign entity, the current regime has shown consistent disregard for international standards and respect for humanity. They have attempted to wage war against multiple neutral nations for their own selfish purposes and without regard for the implications involved. They have attempted (and failed) to intimidate Auxorii through means of military and now through spying - this too, will fail. The Aggressor has also threatened the use of weapons of mass destruction; and while the Revolutionary Republic generally tolerates these kinds of programs in other nations, it simply can not tolerate it for the Aggressor for all the reasons just listed.

An excerpt from the recent address to the nation by His Grace, the Premier, Joseph Rú:

“…Allow me to state it in the simplest and bluntest of terms: Southern Cone, the Aggressor, will not have nuclear weapons. I repeat this sentiment again, that our Revolutionary Republic and our allies will not allow the Aggressor’s nuclear weapons program to reach a stage where they will produce usable and terrifying weapons of mass destruction. It simply will not happen.

As for the Conish people around the world, even from within the Aggressor itself, that are lamenting recent events and wonder everyday what happened to their nation - we are with you. Resist the tyranny imposed on you. You will see the end of this, and it will be victory.

All Conish refugees will be guranteed full refugee status in either Auxorii or Kohalo if they reach us. We will protect you; you will be one of us.

We also call on the Most Esteemed Emperor Morgan of South Otselic to consider sending any Conish citizens that they detain to Kohalo, where they will be properly vetted and taken care of…”

Rateria, Southern Cone

OOC: you do realise the time to step back is long gone? doing it now and the Conish government would loose face and legitimacy. [/quote]

Better to lose face than lose lives

Auxorii, Rateria

Auxorii wrote:The charge that Auxorii has paid off the Otselician government is laughable, for many reasons. The Premier Joseph Rú maintains that Auxor diplomacy has not and will never be done through bribery - although clearly and unfortunately, this appears to be the Conish way. This is yet another feature of the Aggressor which the Premier strongly condemns.

The Conish government is yet to find any concrete proof to back your outragerous claims.

Auxorii wrote: [...] While the Aggressor is a sovereign entity, the current regime has shown consistent disregard for international standards and respect for humanity. They have attempted to wage war against multiple neutral nations for their own selfish purposes and without regard for the implications involved. [...] The Aggressor has also threatened the use of weapons of mass destruction; and while the Revolutionary Republic generally tolerates these kinds of programs in other nations, it simply can not tolerate it for the Aggressor for all the reasons just listed.

The Northern Threat is yet to show concrete evidence of "disregard for international standards" and "respect for humanity" and "attempted to wage war against multiple neutral nations". It is the moral duty for cones to liberate fascist-occupied land and bring freedom and democracy. It is Southern Cone's destiny to expand its sphere of influence in the New World and bring forth a multipolar world. The fact that Auxorii consistently has been defending a corrupt fascist dictatorship from Conish occupation has been of deep concern and appaling that you have defended your political opposition. Conish excellence will bring the Federated States into the nuclear age, with our own blood and sweat, we will defend our right to national interests at all costs!

Auxorii wrote: An excerpt from the recent address to the nation by His Grace, the Premier, Joseph Rú:

“…Allow me to state it in the simplest and bluntest of terms: Southern Cone, the Aggressor, will not have nuclear weapons. I repeat this sentiment again, that our Revolutionary Republic and our allies will not allow the Aggressor’s nuclear weapons program to reach a stage where they will produce usable and terrifying weapons of mass destruction. It simply will not happen.

You may wish, but you are of no authority to hinder us. Ever since the establishment of the Federated States have we remained resolute to defend Conish sovereignity and the Conish people's right to make their choices on the Southern Cone's future. Months ago, the Conish people chose to liberate the people of Wisconsin and help their fellow Americans. We, the Conish government, do not intend to disobey the people's will. We will carry through with the Conish will and liberate Wisconsin. Be it by right or might.

Auxorii wrote:As for the Conish people around the world, even from within the Aggressor itself, that are lamenting recent events and wonder everyday what happened to their nation - we are with you. Resist the tyranny imposed on you. You will see the end of this, and it will be victory.

All Conish refugees will be guranteed full refugee status in either Auxorii or Kohalo if they reach us. We will protect you; you will be one of us.

We also call on the Most Esteemed Emperor Morgan of South Otselic to consider sending any Conish citizens that they detain to Kohalo, where they will be properly vetted and taken care of…”

TeleSur has today reported on the news that riots have started to break out in Conish cities, disturbing traffic during rush hour and vandalizing municipal and federal government buildings. Policía de Investigaciones del Cono Sur, Police of Investigations of the Southern Cone, has raised the threat level from N7 / green to N6 / yellow as recent evaluation estimates an elevated risk for danger to public safety. The Department of Defense has through the Agency for Civil Security & Preparedness advised citizens to keep an emergency kit for surviving up to two weeks. A brochure has been sent to every home with information.

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The Valparaiso fleet, profesionally referred to as Unit V23, has set sail. For now westward, approaching Easter Island / Rapa Nui

Rateria

I will not be running for re-election for Consul.

Thank you to everyone for trusting me enough to elect my in the first place.

Rateria, Southern Cone

Auxorii won the Consulship uncontested.

Auxorii, Rateria, Nosam Republic, Southern Cone, Nordhessir

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:Auxorii won the Consulship uncontested.

Congrats

Narland, Auxorii, Rateria, Mirina

I hope Americans never lose the love for exploration

Narland, Auxorii

Suzi Island wrote:I hope Americans never lose the love for exploration

May exploration, love of discovery, intrepidness and enterprise always be a part of the American spirit.

Auxorii, Suzi Island

Can I see your constitution? I cannot find it lol.

Southern Cone

Hermes Express 123 wrote:Can I see your constitution? I cannot find it lol.

There is no constitution at the moment.

Hermes Express 123

Did you guys see president Biden "jokingly" admit to selling state secrets

Southern Cone

wtf cringe the rp dies

Southern Cone wrote:wtf cringe the rp dies

ngl, I thought the RP was pretty cringe.

Southern Cone

Southern Cone wrote:wtf cringe the rp dies

I mean you were going to get smoked

Nosam Republic, Southern Cone

President of the Commonwealth of Narland, His Excellency Gus Hamilton-Two Bear, yada yada, upon resolution of Parliament, Declarers June 28, 2023 International "RP Death Day," and National "Peanut Butter Tastes Great With Other Things" Day.

S. Korea has gone from traditional East Asian age count of being 1 year old at birth and 2 years old on the New Year plus an additional year every New Year's day thereafter,

to adopting the Western System of being 0 years at appx. 9 months old, and 1 year old for ever year from birth thereafter.

Southern Cone

Narland wrote:S. Korea has gone from traditional East Asian age count of being 1 year old at birth and 2 years old on the New Year plus an additional year every New Year's day thereafter,

to adopting the Western System of being 0 years at appx. 9 months old, and 1 year old for ever year from birth thereafter.

Makes sense for them in being part of international business world

Narland, Southern Cone

Happy actual Independence day when the continental congress voted for freedom from Britain.

Narland, Nosam Republic

Huzzah

Suzi Island wrote:Happy actual Independence day when the continental congress voted for freedom from Britain.
:)

I am happy for any day and every day to be Independence Day. Esto perpetua!

Happy Independence Day! May America continue to be a beacon of hope and liberty!

Narland, Nosam Republic

Not surprising that the Biden WH would have cocaine in it. They have brought no dignity to the office

Suzi Island wrote:Not surprising that the Biden WH would have cocaine in it. They have brought no dignity to the office

I've not seen this news anywhere today. I wonder why...

Narland

Whenever I was caught with white powder it was from powdered jelly donuts.

!!!Anecdote Alert!!!

As a kid (back in the 1970s), we had an extended family picnic at a national park. We brought deviled eggs but my grandfather though they needed paprika. He drove like a madman full throttle (in a Ford LTD that had a 429 cid engine) 50 miles to get home. He put some paprika in a little plastic baggie and drove like a maniac at over 120 mph to get back. But he never showed up.

That was on Friday. Saturday we contacted the local Sherriff who filed some paperwork, and said he would be in touch. We were all pretty worried.

Monday morning he came driving up the ranch driveway.

Come to find out a State Trooper had pulled him over for doing in excess of 100 mph and thought the bag of paprika hanging halfway out of his shirt was some weird new drug. Paprika does have an evil sound about it (especially in an age with no Internet, and police with little culinary experience). But they carted him off to a State holding cell without contacting local authorities and had the paprika sent out of state for testing.

They gave him only one phone call so he called his lawyer (but had to leave a message on an answering machine because it was Friday after hours.) So he sat in their cell the whole weekend before the lawyer was able to spring him and get the charges dropped. Because the Troopers failed to follow through on proper procedure, they also dropped the speeding charges.

Suzi Island, Rateria

!!!Anecdote Alert!!!

As a kid (back in the 1970s), we had an extended family picnic at a national park. We brought deviled eggs but my grandfather though they needed paprika. He drove like a madman full throttle (in a Ford LTD that had a 429 cid engine) 50 miles to get home. He put some paprika in a little plastic baggie and drove like a maniac at over 120 mph to get back. But he never showed up.

That was on Friday. Saturday we contacted the local Sherriff who filed some paperwork, and said he would be in touch. We were all pretty worried.

Monday morning he came driving up the ranch driveway.

Come to find out a State Trooper had pulled him over for doing in excess of 100 mph and thought the bag of paprika hanging halfway out of his shirt was some weird new drug. Paprika does have an evil sound about it (especially in an age with no Internet, and police with little culinary experience). But they carted him off to a State holding cell without contacting local authorities and had the paprika sent out of state for testing.

They gave him only one phone call so he called his lawyer (but had to leave a message on an answering machine because it was Friday after hours.) So he sat in their cell the whole weekend before the lawyer was able to spring him and get the charges dropped. Because the Troopers failed to follow through on proper procedure, they also dropped the speeding charges. [/quote]

Hopefully at the future reunions after that paprika was not forgotten

Rateria, Southern Cone

lol. nope, never forgotten. For years at reunions family would ask around at each other if they had enough paprika. :) Some of us would bring it in little plastic baggies. Grandpa got a pound of it for a Christmas present that year by an anonymous Santa. He traded in the LTD for an almost identical one with a 2 barrel 302 cid.

Rateria

Driving through western Pennsylvania and eastern Ohio, I admire the beauty of God's nature and how clean it is

Narland, Nosam Republic, Southern Cone

Suzi Island wrote:Driving through western Pennsylvania and eastern Ohio, I admire the beauty of God's nature and how clean it is

I didn’t know the US had any plots if untouched nature left at all. I thought it was all an industrial hellscape and hyper-capitalistic inferno of hustle culture, materialism and commercialism.

Suzi Island wrote:Driving through western Pennsylvania and eastern Ohio, I admire the beauty of God's nature and how clean it is

If you can make it down to the bluegrass region of Kentucky, it's well worth it! The scenery doesn't get much better

Southern Cone wrote:I didn’t know the US had any plots if untouched nature left at all. I thought it was all an industrial hellscape and hyper-capitalistic inferno of hustle culture, materialism and commercialism.

That’s hilarious.

Auxorii, The United States Of Patriots, Southern Cone

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:That’s hilarious.

What 💀 what’s so funny, I’m a simple European who has seen American films 😩

Southern Cone wrote:What 💀 what’s so funny, I’m a simple European who has seen American films 😩

Not good ones

Southern Cone wrote:What 💀 what’s so funny, I’m a simple European who has seen American films 😩

Most of America is untouched land.

Auxorii

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:Not good ones

The United States Of Patriots wrote:Most of America is untouched land.

Cap

Nosam Republic wrote:If you can make it down to the bluegrass region of Kentucky, it's well worth it! The scenery doesn't get much better

Not enough time on this trip but definitely on the list

Southern Cone wrote:Cap

You really realize that when you drive interstate.

Southern Cone

Southern Cone wrote:Cap

I posted a ton of wilderness pictures on discord

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:I posted a ton of wilderness pictures on discord

yeah but those were CGI, you’re actively making an effort to deceive me. and don’t get me started on the moon landing smh it was clearly the soviets who were first!

Southern Cone wrote:yeah but those were CGI, you’re actively making an effort to deceive me. and don’t get me started on the moon landing smh it was clearly the soviets who were first!

Yeah, the Soviets got their first but decided that capitalism should get the credit.

Southern Cone

Southern Cone wrote:Cap

The USA is one of the most biological diverse countries in the world

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