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Region: Libertatem
To be honest Gary Johnson was relatively weak in the last Libertarian Debate. McAfee, Petersen and surprisingly Darryl Perry were strong. I wouldn't mind voting for McAfee. He would get the most media attention if he was the nominee.
what kind of issue was it and what did you select??
"10 minutes ago: Following new legislation in Republic of Minerva, pro-life activists often lecture pregnant women undergoing routine prenatal screening."
On the other hand a McAfee nomination would solidify the Libertarians as the loony conspiracy party, if Sol Invictus didn't already do that.
New Jaslandia
I find it appalling that they are letting him run.
New Jaslandia
> bottom 2% of world for most eco-friendly government policies
> top 12% of world for most beautiful environments
Rateria, Parvimperia, Las-Vegas
What if Bernie Sanders is selected as the favorite in the Democratic Party primaries???
Would the unelected super delegates Hilary Clinton has move to Bernie Sanders ?
Would it present a problem
If the voters selected someone for the
Nomination, but the electors voted for someone else, especially since the electors
are supposed to go to whoever gets the most popular votes.
In the polls Hilary is beating Trump by a 10% lead of all Americans favoring Hillary over Trump, but in the polls Bernie by a 20% lead of all Americans favoring Bernie over Trump. Who would the most logical person select to run for Democrat nominee?
20% lead or 10% lead,
I would say I would run the 20% lead because they have a better chance at winning.
It's gonna be Trump and Hillary, dunno where you got that idea from.
And I'd vote Trump, because he might fix a few problems.
San Andrias
"Damn right we're not!" exclaims Barack Gutenberg, one of many citizens protesting in front of your office. "Your oppressively high taxes are picking our pockets and robbing us of our livelihood. No more, we say! The government may call us tax cheats, but that's just because it's afraid to call us the PATRIOTS that we are! Cut the tax rate, and we'll think about paying again."
Lol, people are rioting over my oppressively high tax rate of 4.1% XD
Quarantinia, San Andrias, New Jaslandia, Rateria, Parvimperia
Here's the scenarios:
Trump vs Clinton: Clinton wins due to the majority of Republicans disliking Trump.
Cruz vs Clinton/Sanders: Not sure, but probably Cruz will win.
Trump vs Sanders: Sanders wins, but a very low voter turnout due to both parties having a big amount that don't like these candidates.
United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen
But that is oppressive...
Trump would beat Sanders. And Cruz would be destroyed by Clinton or Sanders.
Then go live in Denmark :D
But I did lower it though, as it is WAY too high in my opinion. And that option brought it only from 4.1% to 3.8%...
United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen, Rateria
That doesn't seem to be working out for the Republicans, though, unless Rubio can somehow rise to the top.
If Sanders wins a bunch of victories and scores a whole bunch of states, super-delegates would likely switch their support to Sanders to avoid appearing undemocratic. However, Sanders' disappointing showing on Super Tuesday means it's very unlikely he'll win the nomination.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/hillary-clintons-got-this/
United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen, Rateria
If you have NS++ it'll point this out. The reason is because the issue hints a far right party will gain power of you choose the ironically freer option.
United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen
Idk if Kim Jong Un is trying to be intimidating, but this NK missile thing might be problem now that he ordered his nukes to be ready to use at anytime
United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen, Teuberland
CNN's match up polls are hilariously erroneous. Sanders beating Trump by 19 points?!
United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen, Las-Vegas
Kim Jong in ordered nukes to be ready at any time. Gentleman we are one step closer to nuclear apocalypse.
Yes.
No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like Bernie Sanders, I don't agree with everything he says however I would like him the most as our president. He is definitely better than a President Trump.
If China threatened him, he would be like I'm going to nuke you China and then do it starting a nuclear world war 3.
He would never nuke China, they make all our stuff for us!
Rateria, Teuberland
Wow, I haven't been on in six days and I'm just getting used to the new format.
I think you are in the wrong region...
TBH, Trump is a lot smarter than he portrays himself as being. Whether he loses the election or not, he has already taken out a huge loan from The Trump Organization and will write off all of the campaign money he has as a tax deduction by taking advantage of the bureaucratic mess the tax code is. I don't like Trump, but if you thought Obama was bad, Bernie is 10x worse.
The New United States, Rateria, Las-Vegas
I would choose any other candidate before Sanders. Even Clinton.
San Andrias, The United States Of Patriots
Do you know who would pay for all of Sanders' Socialist programs? The answer to that question is: THE TAXPAYERS! I will legally become an adult during the 2016-2020 presidential term, and I don't want to pay out of my rear end for inefficient government programs! We do that enough already!
The United States Of Patriots, Las-Vegas
I see now, you just hate poor people and want them to DIE! I bet that you would just love having no government and have all the roads paved with CHILDREN. You probably hate all minorities too you fascist scum!!1!!!!!!1
San Andrias, Rateria
YOU EVIL FASCIST PIECE OF SH*T
Republic Of Minerva, Rateria
Regional Community News: Issue #18 Coup d'états and Revolutions!
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=578372
Archive: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=505134
Communist detected *Initiates Liberty Prime Combat Mode*
Rateria, The United States Of Patriots
*Initiates a motherfuucking revolution*
Rateria
*sabotage the revolution with the S.T.A.L.I.N-Protocol*
Rateria, Las-Vegas
*prepare B-ERN bank seeking missiles*
Rateria, Las-Vegas
Kasich is the only good Republican candidate left.
New Jaslandia, Plusiocratic Federation Of Monetia, Las-Vegas
Cruz 2016, bruv.
Pretending to be Anti-Establishment Bigoted Goldman Sachs' Bitch 2016, bruv.
Las-Vegas
Yup. I'm not American but I wouldn't vote for a candidate who advocates irresponible spending (like Sanders).
Although you should be careful not to use "socialism" in the same way SJWs use "Fascism" (i.e. for everyone on ther other and of the political spectrum). Real socialism is a horrible thing the Soviet Union was known for and that in many ways was pretty similar to the German version of Fascism. The American version of liberalism has as much to do with socialism as Trump has to do with fascism: Absolutely nothing.
I find this is pretty common among Americans: To use socialism and fascism as political buzzwords to describe the other party. To a European it seems a bit ridiculous sometimes. We actually have both socialist and fascist parties in many European nations and they're fundamenally different from both Republicans and Democrats in America. For example they want to deport Jews (fascists) or "kill the bourgeoisie" (socialists).
Rateria
You call their definition of socialism wrong and supplement it with another erroneous one.
That was unnecessarily vulgar, and not a particularly substantive attack on Sen. Cruz.
His policy positions are, at the very least, better than those of the overly interventionist, pro-drug-war, Medicaid-expanding, pro-Common Core, and anti-religious liberties Gov. John "Philosophy Doesn't Work When You Run Something" Kasich.
The United States Of Patriots
"Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and democratic control of the means of production;[7] as well as the political ideologies, theories, and movements that aim at their establishment.[8] Social ownership may refer to forms of public, cooperative, or collective ownership; to citizen ownership of equity; or to any combination of these.[9] Although there are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them,[10] social ownership is the common element shared by its various forms.[5][11][12]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
Rateria
Wow.. this region shrank a lot..
Kasich is pro-Common Core???
:O
The New United States
*revolution fails due to state-owned economy*
Rateria
It has a history of going from 200 people to 50 to 150 and back to 200 every few months. Military puppets moving around I think.
The New United States, Las-Vegas
Sooo this region is a transitregion.
No, not at all. The population shifts probably have more to do with government activity and recruitment efforts (or lack thereof). We had a large population because of the stellar recruiting efforts of Muh Roads and others, and because of an active and engaged military/gubmint. Now, we lack both of those things.
Miencraft, San Andrias
Our President is inactive, our Board is basically non-existent (last election was half a year ago), as is our military, and our population has declined significantly as a result of our stagnation. Regional law is being neglected and passively disobeyed.
Our lack of a regional organization will destroy us, if we don't reform. We need new leaders, and we need a new, active board.
I say we dissolve the current Board and have snap elections, both for the Board and for President.
Rateria, The Aradites, The United States Of Patriots, Reformed Venice
Agreed. I have already stated I will run for Seat 2.
Rateria, The United States Of Patriots
Post self-deleted by Reformed Venice.
Agreed, I announced previously I would be defending my seat.
Additionally, an appellate justice needs to be appointed as well by the president.
Agreed I have been quite busy of late and can no longer give the attention to the position it deserves
Soo when are we going to do this?
The United States Of Patriots
I agree 100%
The United States Of Patriots
I'll run for board if that's allowed.
The New United States
How exactly does that work, what are the positions offered?
Completely understandable. Real life comes first.
Thank you for your service, Mr. President.
The United States Of Patriots, Las-Vegas
It depends - in order to hold elections, we require somebody with the appropriate regional powers to open up elections.
It would be wise to elect a President before electing the Board. The only person to announce their candidacy, thus far, is [nation=short]Republic_of_Minerva[/nation], I believe.
Interesting... I might consider running for a position on the board myself.
I know i'm a newbie but i'm also running for a board.
Las-Vegas
1. When does the next term start? Because if it's not close then doesn't the vice president take office?
2. I'm pretty sure Minerva lost his citizenship, unless he got it back.
Please don't run into boards. You might hurt yourself.
New Jaslandia, Muh Roads, Rateria, Plusiocratic Federation Of Monetia, The United States Of Patriots, Reformed Venice
Whomever is next president as a result of all this needs to message me. Ill tell ya how to breath some life into this ol girl.
The Hyatt Islands is back and needs help rebuilding. If you want to send over a puppet for friendly debate and curated wine, feel free to do so.
Las-Vegas
Hm... Whenever you all handle whatever issues in leadership you seem to be having, I would like to request a conversation with whoever ends up in charge.
I've already sent a TG to RWN about my issue, but if what I'm reading here is to be believed, I may not be able to solve my issue that way.
http://gpaspectrum.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/1370547029.jpg
New Jaslandia
So when are we going to schedule elections?
Top 101% for biggest government... I'm such a statist.
San Andrias, New Jaslandia, Rateria, Teuberland, The United States Of Patriots, Las-Vegas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN3z3eSVG7A
New Jaslandia
You are a citizen, mein freund.
The United States Of Patriots
Would anybody object to holding a Presidential elections, perhaps, this Saturday, and then Board elections on Sunday? It will give us a bit of time to get candidates for every elected position.
I'll run for President, so long as nobody who holds more experience and who pledges to be active announces their candidacy. If I am elected, I vow to restore military activity, reestablish foreign relations with key allies, and help to reactivate both the Board and the Cabinet. I'm loyal to Libertatem, having resided here for over two years, and I have held various positions in the regional government and authored several pieces of passed legislation.
This is the list of announced candidates, then:
President
[nation=short]The_New_United_States[/nation]
Board
Seat 1: [nation=short]The_Aradites[/nation]
Seat 2: [nation=short]San_Andrias[/nation]
Seat 3: [nation=short]Patvarus[/nation]
Seat 4:
Seat 5:
There need to be three more citizens willing to actively serve in the Board.
Apparently, President RWN has served approximately two to two-and-a-half months of his four-month term. The VP is, indeed, the rightful successor to the President - though it's not evident that he is particularly active, either. It's not really clear how active anybody in the line of succession is (as it is in the VEEP Amendment). Tell me if I'm out of line, but it appears to me that the best way to revive the regional government is to dissolve it and refill it with individuals that want to be active in reviving the region.
Ah, you are correct.
New Jaslandia, Plusiocratic Federation Of Monetia
I volunteered for the Vice Presidency after the original VP was deleted. This is not my primary account, so I will happily cede my position if need be.
Hey, everyone. I'm an ex-citizen, and I just got a 'sure' out of RWN saying I could leave a nation here for the sake of conversation.
I'm actually still listed as an active citizen, though. Not sure if you all want to get around to changing that.
The New United States
In the line of succession, after VP is Board Chairman. [nation=short]Miencraft[/nation], would you be willing to serve as President, again?
As a result of the issue here, let me lend some advice. I am still retired, but I checked to see this was happening, so let me aid you all.
Most of the laws of the old Libertatem have been lost, but there are still those that know the history, so we must ensure it is preserved. The law archive on the forums will help you.
I would have President RWN issue an executive order dissolving the current administration and Board once replacements are elected and serve a tertiary term until the next mandated election day per our laws and amendments.
TNUS, if you want to do this, you have to be all in. I, as a former President, am willing to endorse TNUS for the presidency because I believe he would have the energy and experience to get us back on track. However, the best way to increase activity is to have contested elections. Other people should run passionately, campaign. The days of Time and Ankha were our most active days.
I trust you all to keep Libertatem strong.
Miencraft, The New United States, San Andrias, New Jaslandia, Rateria, Plusiocratic Federation Of Monetia
Im willing to candidate, however im not a citizen and my English can suck (third language)
I'll fight you for it.
The New United States, San Andrias, Muh Roads, Plusiocratic Federation Of Monetia, The Victorium Republic, Reformed Venice
Great. Hopefully it's not RLP vs RLP though.
Oh.. still fighting The Red Dragon?
Hey, the offer to be dictator still stands. Ill pass ROADS. lol
The New United States, Rateria, Shirayuki Mizore
That moment when Ron Paul was apparently once considered "too conservative" for the Libertarian Party.
"When Ron Paul sought the 1988 Libertarian Party nomination for president, many saw him as too conservative and supported American Indian activist Russell Means to run against him.[6][7][8]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factions_in_the_Libertarian_Party_(United_States)
San Andrias
You mean y'all didn't ever get around to passing the ROADS amendment while I was gone?
Shame on y'all.
The New United States, Muh Roads
I haven't been active, my bad.
The New United States
Hey, well, passing ROADS and anointing you King is the central plank of my candidacy.
Miencraft, San Andrias, New Jaslandia, Muh Roads, Rateria, The Victorium Republic
Damn. I can't compete with that.
I... I've got cookies! ???
The New United States, New Jaslandia, Muh Roads, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots
Oh god when did this happen how long has this been a thing why didn't I notice it before what
My civil rights are above 90.
That's...
That's amazing.
Rateria, The United States Of Patriots
Post self-deleted by Muh Roads.
New Jaslandia
I seem to remember something along the lines of daily readings of the teachings of Lord Roads being in there at some point.
[Nation=the_american_empire_in_libertatem] get in hurr
McAfee: Great candidate or just plain nuts?
latter, ofc
News flash, ive had the ability to do this the entire time <3 Roads
I already have a nation in here.
Muh Roads
Post self-deleted by The Victorium Republic.
Long live his most Holy and Imperial Majesty, Muh Roads!
Muh Roads
I support the Roads Amendment and would like to add a new part of it.
Section III
The New Libertatem Government
Subsection I
Muh Roads is recognized as Emperor and Eternal President of Libertatem
Subsection II
The will of Roads is law, He may make any law or Amendment at will.
New Jaslandia
I approve
New Jaslandia
#ronpaulitshappeningmeme
The United States Of Patriots
Here we go.
Muh Roads
#Thingsmiensays
I propose that The Board votes on the passage of the Roads Amendment or that we have a Referendum. Long live Emperor Roads!
Muh Roads
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