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Region: Libertatem
It's saved to my Computer. Can't put it out til Saturday.
Besides...I might as well contribute something I know will be sucessful.
Would it be possible to give a look a this telegram ?
I need Miencraft's approval to replace the Political Crowd Chart with my chart.
My pleasure! Could you telegram me a copy of the final version? I'm eager to read it!
"Hello, friend!
Are you looking to join an active region? Does your nation respect the rights of the individual? Do you believe that debate should be free, open, and without censorship?
Then Libertatem is the region for you!
Our military is active, participating in defensive operations on behalf of our allies and offensive actions against the enemies of freedom. Libertatem was originally founded as a democratic region dedicated to the struggle against totalitarian communism, but our mission has expanded to take on fascists as well in our War on Communism!
All nations are welcome, but we are particularly eager for Libertarians (both right and left), Free Market Supporters, Civil Libertarians, LGBT, and Moderate Democratic nations of all types.
Within 10 days, you may earn your citizenship and begin playing an important role in our region's decision-making. You may run for the regional Board, President, or be appointed to the Cabinet!
Don't be shy- stop by Libertatem and introduce yourself! We're waiting for a nation like you!"
Why?
That's a thing I could never do. Introducing something in details without being extremely boring. Thanks Funky.
He controls the WFE
Well, yeah. But wouldn't something like that be better on a private basis?
That's a good question. I will always prefer a reasoned argument that I disagree with than the all-caps chestbeating Maryland...
Personally, I view the whole "Communism is a stateless, classless society and the USSR (or CCP or Juche or Khamer Rouge- take your pick) was just a temporary transition..." bullcrap as incredibly cult like and faith-based. There is absolutely no empirical evidence that a "true" communist society can exist on a large scale. A totalitarian socialist system is no different than the Branch Davidians or the Haley's comet cult. The rank and file spend their lives believing that they're preparing to go to this magical utopia where everything's great, but all that's really happening is their exploitation by the leadership, whether it's economically, sexually, or socially.
You can convince me that a true communist society can exist for a country when you convince me that heaven exists- show me! Until then, I'm going to live my live the best I can in the here and now.
If it's replacing the PCC which is in the WFE...
It doesn't necessarily have to replace that. If you do that, the same people that are on the PCC will do yours in two days and it will just be as inactive.
...Well not necessarily...
I'll just do it...Friday...Then finish the Amendment...then write the secondary amendment....then publish the first...
Here's a piece of legislation that I've had stocked away since May that today reminded me of.
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=humpheria/detail=factbook/id=330298
What do you guys think? Vote?
Vote and Supported.
Actually....depends on what can be adopted?
That's the original.
I edited it a bit to what I sent out,
"Hello, friend!
Are you looking to join an active region? Does your nation respect the rights of the individual? Do you believe that debate should be free, open, and without censorship?
Then Libertatem is the region for you!
Our military is active, participating in defensive operations on behalf of our allies and offensive actions against the enemies of freedom. Libertatem was originally founded as a democratic region dedicated to the struggle against totalitarian communism in the aptly-named War on Communism, though we are tolerant and accepting of all ideologies.
People present debates and discussions regularly on our RMB, and joining in is highly encouraged; in fact, even if you're not libertarian or anti-Communist, consider dropping by to argue a point, just because it'll be some good fun. We also have a regional map and, for those using the Nationstates++ extension, a newspaper to which anyone may contribute without fear of censorship.
After just ten days of residency, you may earn your citizenship and begin playing an important role in our region's decision-making. You may run for our legislative Board, for President, be appointed to be part of the President's cabinet, or do none of those things and submit bills anyways!
Don't be shy- stop by Libertatem and introduce yourself! We're waiting for a nation like you!"
Pretty much the same thing, but I just change it a little bit to be more new-user-friendly.
Read the last section.
I'd sign that.
Okay...I see no arguments against it... it'll let things become a bit more quickly done...
Groovy!
Miencraft, can I be promoted to Minister of Propaganda? I am really good at it.
Mein Fuhrer!
Wasn't aware we had one of those.
Go ahead, I guess. You're going to get that shiny job in that one place soon anyways, so what's the harm?
woot woot
PEV IS BROKEN, FIX HIM, FIX HIM NOW!
Relax, guys. I just want to know why Maryland in particular has a problem with it.
Communism, just as any totalitarian system, is based on a lack of civil rights and personal freedom. Factors as competition and freedom to develop as an individual are unknown in communism. Collective is way more important than the individual, which leads to totalitarianism and persecution of individuals not serving the collective. Economically, communism can't work, you just have to look at the USSR economy. Communism is responsible for millions of deaths, even more than caused by national socialism.
I was joking anyways.
I am the new Internal Affairs Minister in CFN!
Yay me! Now I finally can stop asking someone to fix that ratchet system and act to fix it.
Maybe they'll care in CFN.
Communism sucks.
America and Poland are my countries...
Screw Canada, U.K. and Australia NCSA
I love you, Humph.
I know.
Join the club.
North Korea is quite a nice region actually.
If not extremely active they raise great points I agree with when it comes to human rights in Capitalist Countries regarding the Homeless in snowy places.
*jumps out window*
Well aren't you a free thinker
I see you are having quite the acid trip.
Hipsters don't do acid. It's too mainstream.
[quote=the_state_of_deseret;8664424]North Korea is quite a nice region actually.
If not extremely active they raise great points I agree with when it comes to human rights in Capitalist Countries regarding the Homeless in snowy places.[/quote
Looks at with intense confusion and concern
They also...raised a good argument against my community plan...for finding jobs that makes me believe a state government would be required to run it....not the STATE government but a State government.
In the name of all things holy and good in the universe would you please shut your horse-loving, North Korea swooning, communist sympathizer mouth?
TTA sympathizes with the enemy! ...Is this treason? :p
Yep. *readies banjection catapult*
What do they do then? Krokodil?
I don't get it TTA... the board goes out of there way to get you citizenship here.... then you go and start having chats with one of our biggest enemies. Why do you like Libertatem? What makes you want to stay here? You obviously don't support the regions original purpose. You claim your not a socialist yet your always first to defend them. You call yourself a centrist, but I'm not so sure. It seems like the centrist thing is a guise so that you can relate with everyone just enough so your liked, but still have a sort-of constructive argument otherwise.
TTA, if you're a socialist sympathizer, that's alright. The first step to healing is admitting you have a problem. You are among friends.
Anyone else getting a bar at the top of the screen saying "Telegramming [newly created nation]... Sent by Miencraft"?
Only those who have been deemed worthy of the recruitment campaign.
How did Mien do that?
NS++ feature. It continuously sends tgs.
I can sympathize with whoever I want.
1. I can have chats with whoever I want. I am not leaking documents or anything. If you wish for proof. I can get you access to my account in that region.
2. I like Libertatem because I like the community and the fun in the challenge of debating things with y'all and the challenge of encouraging change within the regional government. No I don't support the original purpose. That's true.
3. Why? Because their economic beliefs are what sets them apart from us yet they don't harm people. Maybe infringe on a right qhen enacted which is why I stand against it, but their ability to speak about it and their ability to talk about it don't threaten none. Ecspecially on NS. Regions can be protected and refounded. They are simply spreading their ideals and you can easily
A) have an active founder
B) Have a P-Word
or
C) Have a Non-Executive WAD
4. Centrism as a guise? If you look up what centrist means as a all-encompassing political term it means "A slight mixture of Equality and Inequality at vary levels." Centrism gets a bad rap with a lot of people for being an indecisive ideology so if I wished to be well liked would I go to a place that disagreed with me? I'm here aren't I? Then would I go to another place disagreeing with me? North Korea? No. I wouldn't. Policies shouldn't decide how well liked you are. You should.
3.
It's not a problem...but I admit I sympathize for the Communist and Socialist cause...Yes.
He's just a contrarian with a serious lack of real critical thinking. He stays because we give him license to run his mouth, which is more than he would ever be afforded by the enemy.
All in all, I don't think he's doing any harm... certainly not anything ban-worthy.
Idiotic... The homeless make up a tiny portion of the US's population and most of them refuse help due to drugs/mental illness. But that somehow justifies the fact that the vast majority of N. Koreans go hungry and cold while the leadership drive expensive cars and drink high-end booze. Further proof that Norks can't be reasoned with... provide any real evidence that contradicts their worldview and it magically becomes "western propaganda." Absolutely idiotic...
Of course not, that is illegal and I would not allow it. But you are right, if one of us did what he is doing here with the people that he thinks aren't that bad, we would not be given a chance to type our second post before we would be banned.
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I just can't stand the fact that socialism treats all it's citizens the same, without considering the fact people need/want more than the government may say that they 'need to survive'.
An intelligent, innovative person is to be payed/treated the same as an unintelligent, drug-dealing lazy person. Any normal, rational person would NOT put those two in the same category, but socialism does.
I am In North Korea already speaking my mind as I do here. The thing? They know I'm from Libertatem. They have no issue with me being there. No distrust or anything in fact they are rather friendly towards me.
The difference is that you are more in line with them than us. You are not the pinnacle of Libertatem citizenry.
And from a moral level, "right to stuff" theories utterly fall apart when taken to their logical conclusion. By the "logic" of its advocates, every single second someone doesn't have something a third party wants them to, every single member of the human race is oppressing them. It is also a silly prioritisation of some "rights" over others - apparently individuals don't have the right to self-ownership, but they have the right to live in comfort at the expense of others.
This pretty much sums it up.
Speaking of annoying people, y'know what's funny? Einsiev still hasn't confessed even after he was banned. We had a TG conversation about it and he gave me a few lame excuses about his laptop not being able to run screenshot software.
His laptop doesn't have the capacity to press Print-Screen, open Paint, and hit Ctrl-V?
Glad he's gone.
Also, so far, the recruitment program has sent 250 telegrams and attracted one person.
THAT WORKS I GUESS.
Anyone who has TG stamps and wants to use those, I'll send you a copy of the telegram so you can use that magic, since I'm sure it'll be faster.
Do you have welcome telegrams?
I don't go against popular thought... your not a majority.
We don't do welcome telegrams, no.
We used to, I think, but not anymore. Not really necessary, though, most people just come in, say "Hi" on the RMB, and they get a good ol' welcome that way.
Socialism is? On NS, maybe. Not in RL.
My election to the presidency says otherwise. What was 21 to 2?
I'm not a socialist...most irl match up either with or close to my personal beliefs economically.
20-3
Oooooooooh! Such a big difference! [/sarcasm]
Yeah I got me, Ankha and Hallo.
Hum, I've just seen that a member of the board left the region...
You didn't run. It was me against NP, and I know for a fact that Hallo and Ankha both voted for me.
I always thought Welcome telegrams gave the new nation a sense that they are recognized, and may lead to them being active in the region, or saying Hi in the RMB.
Did he inform any of you about it ?
I ran...I did ru- oh wait...no that was an opinion poll....before I had to leave...nevermind.
Who? About what?
The New United States. About him leaving the region.
TNUS said to me that he probably wouldn't be back anytime soon. He left because he felt that he didn't feel part of the community.
I didn't know he left.
Do you guys over in the US like Jay Leno?
Better than Fallon.
Hahahahah haha................ha...............ha...ha..................................................ha....................................................................................................no.
Better than O'Brien and Fallon, yeah. I also like Kimmel though.
I like Stephen Colbert
Oh yeah, he's my favorite for sure. I actually own both of his books.
Poland is greatest country besides America in World War 2!
I actually prefer Kimmel over Leno
I can't stand Colbert.
I love Leno, and Fallon is pretty funny too. Stewart can be funny, but as a spontaneous comedian I don't think he's very good. I'm not a fan of Colbert.
I'm part Polish and find this offensive.
Oop, didn't see the "in World War 2" part.
Carry on. ^^
I'm Part Polish. I take much tradition from Poland.
If anyone is interested, the Nationstates Senate is restarting, with the structural component being formed first.
Actually i think Leno is petty funny. He's also a huge car guy, which is a big plus in my book.
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