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Region: Libertatem
How would Anarchists deal with the military and national security including the border.
Rateria
No, you're just from the future.
Rateria
Mind blown
Rateria
I've just thought, if Carson became president (which he won't) wouldn't he actually be the first black president since Obama's only mixed race?
5/9 for American Empire! Far better than I expected.
Canadian debates in two days, does anybody else here live in Canada or just me?
I really wish Harper retained his radical capitalism side of himself.
And I want to know, why the hell is there another Quebec party in parliament?
I hope rand paul destroys trump and goes after him
Miencraft, Reaganomic Nws
I'm not Canadian but have been following the elections quite closely, the Libertarian party seems to have a strange understanding of free speech and Trudeau's campaign has got off to a rather weak start! I think NDP will take a majority (unfortunately) but Quebec actually looks interesting as the Conservatives could take more seats than the Liberals in the end.
Yeah, the voting district in Quebec that I live in is primarily pro-NDP and rarely has a libertarian party candidate which is unfortunate because ultimately, its choosing out of five evils as the CP is usually a lame duck trying to pass anything with the rest of parliament being leftist. It's too bad that Canada doesn't have as much of a Libertarian movement than in the US.
Private contractors, boarders wouldn't exist.
Miencraft, Rateria, Reaganomic Nws
Militia?
Kings Island, Pevvania, Rateria
If you want an example you could look up the Black Army, (Revolutionary Insurrectionary Army of Ukraine) but I don't know a lot about them.
The LPC is making tremendous advancements with Tim Moen, for example the party has elected the most constituents in their history and has already made themselves quite known in the media. The seem to be struggling in the east however.
Unfortunately, as long as first past the post exists, you can bet to see only 2-3 major parties existing. Maybe only two if the Liberals go the way of the Dino.
If we got rid of first past the post, which system would you prefer?
I prefer instant runoff votting.
I don't like the handling of Lauren Southern by the Libertarians though it has been mentioned that it could have been a publicity stunt.
Republic Of Minerva
If it were me, I'd do away with parties. Each constituency would elect an independent MP based upon their principles and when it got to parliament they'd back an MP they felt was close enough in ideology to themselves and who'd like to run for PM. Then instant run off within the House of Commons until a PM is elected. Sure for the first few years after the disposal of parties MP would just go for who they were in the same party as but after a while they'd have nothing to go on. It would also mean that it pays to look after your constituency.
This would also work.
Rateria
From a purely pragmatic point of view, national defense would not be very difficult. Plenty of militias, private contractors and volunteers would exist to defend the people from attack. Clear incentives exist on this matter (the incentive not to be killed/pillaged/enslaved/bombed).
Rateria, Reaganomic Nws
[B]GOP Candidates, Ranked[/B]
Good Tier
Rand Paul
OK Tier
Ted Cruz
Rick Perry
Scott Walker
Socially Conservative Nutjob Tier
Mike Huckabee
Rick Santorum
Neo-Con Warmonger Tier
Jeb Bush
Marco Rubio
Lindsey Graham
Lol Tier
Donald Trump
Carly Fiorina
Statist Drone Tier
Chris Christie
John Kasich
Meh Tier
Ben Carson
Bobby Jindal
George Pataki
Jim Gilmore
Tyrinth, The New United States, Rateria
Cruz is in the OK tier because he seems to be relatively friendly towards libertarian thought, despite mindless rants against gay marriage and the like. Rick Perry is a smart guy with some good ideas, and appears to be against the Drug War now. Scott Walker is a bit of a tool, but has a decent fiscal record.
Every other candidate is straight-up awful.
I agree with this assessment, though I'd probably bump Cruz up to "Good Tier."
And I have reservations about Walker. Doesn't seem as principled as the other folks in the "Good/Ok" tiers, but I'd choose him before most of the candidates.
I'd move Pataki to Lol and Carson to OK. Cruz has good potential, but I see the fact he was born in Calgary as a problem.
Condealism
Why is the old flag back ?
If I were a betting man, I'd put money on Cruz for president, I may be the only one and it's not because I think he's the best candidate, I just feel he's a dark horse when everyone's thinking Bush, Clinton or Trump. Obviously I'd prefer Rand but that was fun while it lasted.
The RLP made a law.
Oh come on... We voted on that thing...
And then we voted to change it back.
Technically. We voted to actually delegate the power to change the flag to the executives, thus changing the flag back to its original because the current executives wanted to.
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_law_of_libertatem/detail=factbook/id=453206
The Banner Act
Cruz is a mixed bag for me. He seems to straddle the right-wing/libertarian divide in the Republican Party. He's said and done some great things, but then goes on random tirades against gay marriage and marijuana, although he seems to be more of a federalist on that issue now. I'd vote for him over the Libertarian candidate, unless he becomes more neo-con.
He was principled as governor until he started running for president, when he started letting out the canned lines about "American exceptionalism", "enforcing the law on marijuana" and all that crap.
Yeah, come to think of it Pataki's pretty lol. He has a mediocre record as governor and has maintained almost no public presence whatsoever in the 13 years since he ran his last campaign. Maybe he had a shot in 2008, but now, he's got no chance of scraping the top 7.
I don't think Carson is of any real substance. Sure, he's popular with conservatives and is definitely a gifted speaker, but he doesn't have any concrete policy views. I predict you'll see him either go the way of the cookie-cutter conservative, desperately airing as many canned lines as possible to get a shot at winning, or just run a really unprofessional campaign with moments akin to Rick Perry's "three federal departments" he'd eliminate in 2011.
Ted Cruz's mother is American-born, which legally means that Cruz is a "natural-born" US citizen. So there isn't much issue there.
I predict that Paul will fight a tough campaign but inevitably lose the nomination to Jeb Bush, only for him to be defeated by Hillary in the general. Then I think Hillary will lose in 2020 to Paul.
Or maybe I'm just dreaming.
Rateria
Dr. Carson wouldn't resort to that - he's too principled. Granted, this also indicates that he likely won't gain very much support for his platform, but I think he'd be a good choice if he were to somehow outshine most of the other candidates.
Rateria
Because fvck consent of the governed, the board does whatever it wants
can someone help me get my econonmy up i'm struuggling
The governed consented. Did you forget about the poll?
If it wasn't for Newt Gingrich's shameless and hypocritical opportunism, Clinton would have pushed a plan to privatise Social Security: http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/clinton-wanted-social-security-privatized
If you need help with any specific issue, just post it here and we'll help you find a good solution.
But mostly the way you do anything is just answer issues, and eventually you'll figure out which answers cause the outcome you want.
Oh those paranoid gun nuts. How ridiculous is it that the government may become tyrannical? I mean, all our government does now is invade other countries illegally, kill hundreds of middle-eastern civilians annually with drone strikes, supply weapons to the mexican drug cartels and spy on its own citizens unconstitutionally.
Miencraft, Republic Of Minerva, Reaganomic Nws
If you want your economy to get better then quit being socialist.
Hello! This is the puppet of Poptropia...I am making puppet nations just for diplomacy and ease of talking on your RMB.
Pevvania
Hullo.
God save the Queen
Roads save the Hump!
Reaganomic Nws
Hi, Jadentopia here. Figured I'd make a nation here for ease of access.
Poptropia In Libertatem
Shoot, ignore my citizenship application.
I find this funny. Libertatem citizens will know why.
Rateria
[U]OK Tier
Rand Paul
[U]Lol Tier
Donald Trump
Carly Fiorina
Mike Huckabee
Rick Santorum
Chris Christie
John Kasich
Ben Carson
Bobby Jindal
George Pataki
Jim Gilmore
Jeb Bush
Marco Rubio
Lindsey Graham
Ted Cruz
Rick Perry
Scott Walker
Miencraft, Pevvania, Republic Of Minerva, Hallo Island
He needs salvation by the hose
=P
Rateria, The American Empire In Libertatem
For future reference, read things before you send applications.
Also for future reference, I check and answer telegrams before I read the RMB.
I think I'm good, actually, sir.
Rateria
James Monroe - thoughts?
Great guy.
How do you feel about Marco Rubio, besides his foreign policy views?
His foreign policy may be more aggressive than that of Paul, but he, nonetheless, has one of the most conservative voting records in the Senate. I'd certainly choose Rubio over plenty of other candidates, and I'd probably put him in my top five candidates.
Here are my top five candidates:
1.Rand Paul
2. Marco Rubio
3. Ted Cruz
4. Scott Walker
5. Rick Perry
Mine;
1. Gary Johnson
2. Rand Paul
3. Jim Webb
I don't like the rest of the candidates.
Pevvania
Good Tier
Rand Paul
OK Tier
Ted Cruz
Scott Walker
Carly Fiorina
Ben Carson
John Kasich
Neo-Con Warmonger Tier
Jeb Bush
Marco Rubio
Lindsey Graham
Lol Tier
Donald Trump
Statist Tier
Chris Christie
Meh Tier
George Pataki
Jim Gilmore
Socially Conservative Religious Nutjob Tier
Mike Huckabee
Rick Santorum
Rick Perry
Bobby Jindal
Best Tier
Ben Carson
Rest Tier
The Rest
Ankha
You meant Ted Cruz, right?
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Best Tier
The rest
Rest Tier
Ben Carson
Kings Island, Pevvania, The New United States
Rand Paul all the way!!!!! Hopefully he burns Trump to ashes
Miencraft, Pevvania, Reaganomic Nws, Poptropia In Libertatem
Woo! Rand Paul!!
Miencraft, The American Empire In Libertatem, Reaganomic Nws
GO RAND PAUL! #STANDWITHRAND
Miencraft, The American Empire In Libertatem
PRESIDENT PAUL! PRESIDENT PAUL!
Miencraft, Pevvania, The American Empire In Libertatem
Rand is a hypocrite. I used to like him, but not anymore.
Condealism
What did he do to change your mind?
Well I guess I won the election
-anti immigration stances
-pro racial profiling
-against "sanctuary cities"
-supported higher defense spending
-supports growing the security state
-against the Iran deal
-wants to jail Snowden
-hostility to gay marriage
This man is no libertarian, or is even "libertarianish," save perhaps for the fact that he wants to abolish the patriot act and maybe leave the drug war to the states, but together those are not defining libertarian positions.
Condealism
Anybody watching the Canadian Leader's Debates?
I don't see why people are surprised by the revelation that he's no libertarian. Especially considering how often he has downright stated such, and how often he tries to distance himself from his father politically.
Republic Of Minerva
Congratulations, Aradites!
Thanks!
Rand Paul and Ben Carson.
Rand paul is throwing out a lot of personal attacks
well he can say good bye to that presidency
Thank goodness.
"The irrefutable proof that I claimed over a month ago to possess, regarding the Mexican government sending criminals to the United States, is an anecdote that I received a week ago from a Border Patrol Agent. Also, I've got lots of money." - Trump
Miencraft, Right-Winged Nation
I still like Rand Paul, but I was really impressed by Ben Carson. He spoke intelligently and I actually agreed with a lot of his positions. I'm also now convinced Christie is my least favorite candidate, he acted like an idiot and used 9/11 as his sheild when Paul attack him for being the moron he is.
Miencraft, Republic Of Minerva, Rateria, Condealism
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Still probably going with Paul, but I think Carson's my next pick now.
Good point. http://reason.com/archives/2015/08/04/rand-pauls-massive-immigration-contradic
If Islam is a race, then I deserve affirmative action for being Christian. Still bad, though.
Not true. He has supported lower defense spending in every one of his budgets, and supported an amendment that would have offset increases in military spending with cuts to domestic spending, assuming that the military spending amendment would pass.
What are you talking about? This is the guy who took down the PATRIOT Act!
Yeah, that's disappointing. As Ron Paul said, it boosts peace and defeats the neo-cons.
I wouldn't call this accurate. He's hinted at it to throw the neo-cons a bone, but he's largely applauded his actions. Make no mistake - a Paul Administration would make things easy for Snowden, and maybe even pardon him if it was politically viable.
His concrete political position is perfectly libertarian. He didn't throw the type of fit every other Republican did (except for good ol' Thomas Massie and Justin Amash), and wrote a TIME article about how marriage should be privatised, which is the real libertarian position on the issue.
He has said, point-blank to Bill Maher, that he is "absolutely committed to ending the War on Drugs".
Rand Paul is definitely a libertarian, and disguises himself as a libertarian-leaning conservative to appeal to a wider base and actually get libertarian policies put in action. And putting Rand Paul into the White House puts Ron Paul into the White House. I suppose by your rigid definition of libertarianism, Rand Paul belongs in the Democratic Party for supporting a 14% flat tax instead of a 0% flat tax?
Miencraft, Reaganomic Nws
I saw the "losers' debate", and bits of the second one, and the major thing that I've noticed is that Lindsey Graham is a freaking nutjob. He literally said "I will send troops back to Iraq and Syria". George Pataki did surprisingly well considering the fact that he has no public profile whatsoever, and it took some skill to turn his pro-choice position into that of an anti-abortionist. Overall I think Carly Fiorina and Rick Perry did best in that one.
But despite Carly Fiorina's debate performance, why would anyone vote for her? There are several candidates who have never been elected to any office who have far more impressive records than she does. Donald Trump has numerous billion-dollar businesses. Ben Carson is the world's top neurosurgeon. Carly Fiorina was the CEO of HP, but got fired for tens of thousands of job losses and the company losing half of its value on the stock market. And to top it off, the board of the company claims it was her "management style" that got her fired! She clearly isn't a good leader.
Miencraft, Rateria
Can somebody tell me the appeal of Ben Carson? He's clearly a talented and charismatic guy, but he's a conservative, and I fail to see how he'd improve liberty in any significant way.
Also, I propose that we hold presidential elections on three full days from August 25th to the 27th.
Tres bien
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No one insofar.
Kings Island and I have agreed on progress before politics.
Kings Island, Reaganomic Nws
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I would be happy to buy you a dictionary with my great government salary if you'd like.
Even in uncontested races there is an option to vote against the candidate. Why do you insist on making everything a political issue? The leader of your own party stands on my ticket for the betterment of the region, not the proliferation of politics.
Miencraft
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I believe the slogan was, in fact, "Progress Before Politics".
Humpheria, Reaganomic Nws
And I applaud your decision to give up personal ambitions for the sake of regional progress, Kings Island.
Rateria
Carson, like Trump, is not a career politician, believes that leftism is dividing the American people, and is running for President to make the United States feel whole again. Unlike Trump, however, he is principled, mature, and realistic, and that's why his message really resonates with me.
Miencraft, Tyrinth, Rateria
I'd imagine the PRR will put forward a candidate?
Everyone that disagrees with him are dividing America and he's a brain surgeon, so of course he can handle a budget and command the strongest military in the world.
Carson would be a much better than trump or huckabee.
Miencraft, Rateria, Condealism
I mean, there really aren't very many good options.
Not my point. Besides which, he considers demagogues divisive (given how polarizing they are, this is entirely justified), not the voters themselves.
What can I say? Washington certainly needs one. But I digress...
He could. In fact, I think he could be everything Obama isn't.
The New United States, Rateria
I'm not sure he's any less qualified than any of the other candidates. As Rubio said, if we're voting based on the length of one's political resume, then Hillary Clinton would be the best candidate. We need to vote based on the candidates' principles, not on how much better Governors are as executives than Senators or brain surgeons.
Cruz has definitely come to be my #1 choice.
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