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Hey, I just joined. I run this country and the empire of Dark Shroud. I support legalizing marijuana just like the fellow above me. I also put a good portion of money into defense.

Confederate People Of The United States wrote:Count me in on the raid Pev, I take no offense. We will just need 10 puppets from separate main nation to help us set up IRU, give it the populace eye-candy for searching nations.

I will be back by February probably and switch regions weekly between here and IRU.

why are you leaving???

Welcome all new arrivals!

We accept any and all ideologies here. For moderates like you, Normandiana, I suggest joining the Democratic-Republican Party.

Liberosia's factbook on the party system is out of date, so I've posted my own: http://www.nationstates.net/nation=pevvania/detail=factbook/id=176348

I removed the Christian Libertarian Party from the listings since it became the RLP a while ago, the Right Party because the passage of DERP disestablished it and the Anti-Communist Party of Libertatem has no members and serves no real purpose.

Let me know if anyone wants to sign up for the Reaganist Libertarian Party.

Pevvania wrote:Liberosia's factbook on the party system is out of date, so I've posted my own: http://www.nationstates.net/nation=pevvania/detail=factbook/id=176348

I removed the Christian Libertarian Party from the listings since it became the RLP a while ago, the Right Party because the passage of DERP disestablished it and the Anti-Communist Party of Libertatem has no members and serves no real purpose.

Let me know if anyone wants to sign up for the Reaganist Libertarian Party.

I'm interested in joining.

Pevvania wrote:Welcome all new arrivals!

We accept any and all ideologies here. For moderates like you, Normandiana, I suggest joining the Democratic-Republican Party.

That sounds good. Who do I TG?

Well, since the leader of the party left and its only other member CTE'd, I guess that makes you in charge. Welcome aboard! ^_^

Also, if we have any closet communists here, you can always join the Left Libertarian Party. The leader's gone walkabout for a bit, but I'll TG him if anyone is interested in joining.

It's nice to see our numbers going up!

Call me a copycat, but I'm going to create a Regional Recruitment Committee for anyone who's interested in joining and bolstering the growth of our region.

^ ideas don't need copyrights

Especially helpful ones

Pevvania wrote:Well, since the leader of the party left and its only other member CTE'd, I guess that makes you in charge. Welcome aboard! ^_^

who exactly is in charge?

Acranea wrote:who exactly is in charge?

Haven't you heard, this is anarchy? You are.

Confederate People Of The United States wrote:Haven't you heard, this is anarchy? You are.

Oh...wow...swag

We need an urgent reshuffle of the Board. Most members are inactive, with some not even residing in this region!

I concur. The board members set the precedent that the the rest of the region emulates. The rampant inactivity can find one of its sources in the inactive, and in some cases non-present, leadership of the region.

Just used up my last 100 Telegram Stamps recruiting.

I encourage all of you to purchase Postmaster-General from the NationStates store for only $9.99, which grants you the power to send Mass TGs with the click of a button. We need to get back to recruiting, people. We need to rebuild.

TG me for instructions and for the new recruiting message.

What do you guys think of my new flag? (Read my Factbook about the flag before you answer)

I like the flag Cap. Pev tg me info about the damn raid for the last time..

CP, I've yet to pick a location for the raid. Once I get five volunteers I'll find a place.

Four* volunteers.

Good thing our population has spiked!

Ah, but what is a high population without sufficient activity? I know of regions stocked with hundreds of members, yet there has been no chatter there for months. Large numbers can be a good indication, but what this region really needs is activity. We need participation for the region to go on. Our Board is short only of a Chairman... Yet there hasn't been any real legislative activity in months.

I attended a wedding today and a question arose: What gives the state the authority to sell "licenses" authorizing a marriage?

The state gives itself authority, because it is infallible.

Marriage is a religious decision. God knows why the government is even involved in the closest personal affairs of others.

RECRUITMENT.

I'll be brief: we need nations. Badly. Libertatem is at a crossroads, where we may go hurtling off the point of no return and into the abyss, or rebuild ourselves and create a better region for all of us.

The only way we can do this is by recruiting. And we need to do a lot of it. Whether it's going to sinker/feeder regions and posting messages there, creating threads to attract new nations or simply by sending messages to new nations, everyone has to cooperate.

The best way to recruit this is via the purchase of telegram stamps. Telegram stamps allow you to send 'mass TGs' to hundreds of different nations at the same time with the click of a button. I'd appreciate it if as many of you as possible could go to the NationStates Store (http://www.nationstates.net/page=store) and purchase 1000 telegram stamps to help recruit. 1000 of these only costs $1.00. This was 64 pence for me. If you care about the future of the region, you'll buy some.

I have created a new recruitment message that you can find in my factbooks. I'll post the link here: http://www.nationstates.net/nation=pevvania/detail=factbook/id=177323

You MUST tick 'recruitment telegram' when sending this to other nations! It will put a grey box in the message sending the receiver to the region, so it's vital that this is checked every time.

Please, help the region. Help us recruit.

ALSO: I'll be giving out a Steam or EA Origin game code to the recruiter who gets us 10 active members. I have quite a few game codes I won't use, so I might as well use one or two to incentivise you to recruit.

TG me for info on the games.

Well, sorry for the past inactivity, had forgotten about this with all the other things going on.

I'm back now.

Hi.

Welcome back, Miencraft! :D I never knew you too well, but I hope that we can work together now to help rebuild the region.

Want to join the Reaganist Libertarian Party?

Sure, that'd be nice.

In the meantime, I'm gonna go get my puppets up and running again.

I've sent out 1500 recruitment telegrams in the last few days. Looks like our numbers are going up. This is very positive!

Good to know, Snabagag. But as I said before, above all activity is what we need.

Arrgh me hearties, I s'pose since all the other wags be comin' back to the deck, I might as well too! Meself and Galacticorp need to end the yarn we spun.

The Second Zombie Apocalypse dawns! We need to prepare for the worst possible scenarios. As Military Manger, I am hereby delegating contingency plans to Space Pirates. Don't let us down, captain!

Hey!

I would like to ask that you not spam the Warzone Asia RMB, Pevvania. It clearly states that RMB adds are NOT allowed.

Thanks!

I represent Communist Skyrim of the Juche Union and received word from a cabinet member that you wished to open relations. Why should we do such a thing?

Ah, you got my message. Welcome to Libertatem :) I think we should discuss this through telegram.

Welcome, all new arrivals! :)

Inactives, newcomers and anyone else - don't be afraid to talk here on the RMB! You can bring up anything for discussion! :)

I'm gonna play Keynesian here: wars cause prosperity. Natural disasters, chaos and other forms of destruction cause net prosperity for society, because it creates demand for property that was destroyed. Houses, factories and roads that had fallen into disuse or futility are destroyed, so the resulting replacements are new, improved and up-to-date. This not only increases living standards but also creates more turnover for, for example, property developers and the like, who in turn create more employment. The whole economy benefits.

Anyone care to challenge this?

Pev, I'm not in the mood for challenging simple fallacies so I'll let YouTube do it for me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG3AKoL0vEs

Aww, come on, I was hoping for a chunky response.

I've had to give too much of those the last few days...

All right, you Roads Socialist, you want a response to that? you got it!

I'm gonna play Keynesian here: wars cause prosperity. Natural disasters, chaos and other forms of destruction cause net prosperity for society, because it creates demand for property that was destroyed. Houses, factories and roads that had fallen into disuse or futility are destroyed, so the resulting replacements are new, improved and up-to-date. This not only increases living standards but also creates more turnover for, for example, property developers and the like, who in turn create more employment. The whole economy benefits.

Anyone care to challenge this?

Enough with this Keynesian bullsh*t! To hell with these looters! All right...now I'm calm... Okay, so the basic idea behind the above post is that destruction, or a decrease in production, stimulates aggregate demand because it makes demand relative to the supply of things/supply higher. The basic logical fallacy in this system of "economics" is looking at demand and supply as only aggregates: it conceals the nature or market mechanisms and exchanges in the economy. In effect, this policy, reducing the amount of stuff there is, serves only to make existing things more expensive, i.e., the law of scarcity and, you know, logic. This increase in scarcity leads to an increase in prices, i.e., inflation, which then serves to make everyone poorer despite their supposed increase in "demand". The root of my argument here is known as Say's Law. It indicates that demand is composed of desire and an ability to produce in order to trade, i.e., "need" is not the only component of demand, rather, demand is inextricably linked to supply and the ability of an individual to supply goods to the market. Destroying stuff in an economy serves to decrease the second aspect of demand, its productive part, while increasing its first aspect, the "need" part. What this does is it makes people need more things, and doesn't allow them to produce the things they need. FDR did this in the 1930's and it is quite possible one of the worst things I have ever heard.

Good to hear from you L. I am taking a day retreat from IRU because ISA is being a jerk.

Pevvania reminds me of hard money and apple pie. All are excellent choices.

*sheds a joyful tear at the complete destruction of Keynesian "ideals"

My fellow nations, my compatriots, and my friends, I am pleased to announce the second recipient of the Founder’s Medal of Freedom. He is my friend, and the spark of my moral and political evolution. More than his outstanding and unprecedented service to this region as our WA Delegate, he has aided me personally in my political and philosophical development as a man, introducing me to the moral foundation of liberty. In his over one year Delegacy, he has strictly advocated a position of liberty on all issues, never compromising his beliefs, never ceasing to pursue liberty, never failing to fight until his last effort, using the law, but fighting the law: fighting violence and coercion; fighting to make Libertatem a more free society. Of all the people I have ever met, I can say this – he believes the inherent virtue of Capitalism is: justice.

For outstanding contributions to Libertatem and her allies, and for supporting the cause of liberty and justice, the nation [nation]Snabagag[/nation] is hereby awarded the Founder's Medal of Freedom. We salute you, [nation=short]Snabagag[/nation], for your hard work, dedication, and commitment to our freedom and the freedom of others.

Keynesianism, eh? Not too familiar with it. But isn't it a statist form of economics? I'm a non-coercive collectivist, you see. I believe that humanity will naturally evolve towards socialism and then communism. Force will simply create a quasi-capitalist replacement system. I think I'd like to join the Leftist Libertarian Party.

(But I must say, I represent a wide variety of socialists in Juche Union! We have some Marxists, some Juchists, even a Stalinist or two. So I'm in no way disparaging their ideologies, just sharing my own.)

Congrats Snab!

That's good, Skyrim. Coercion is the heart of evil, in my opinion.

The Libertatem Lottery!

I'll be giving out a Dead Space game code for either Steam or EA Origin to one lucky nation right here in Libertatem! To be put on the lottery rolls, you need to fulfil these requirements:

-post on the RMB once a day or several times every few days

-be a new member of the region OR be a previously inactive member of the region

-make a post on the regional message board requesting to be on the rolls.

These are important! This lottery is designed to spur activity, and will not be giving anything away if we don't get it. As I said above, post a message here if you want to be put on the rolls!

Every enrollee will be marked with a number by the order they sign up in. The first to sign up will be marked as 1 and so on. When I think we've got enough people interested to go forward with the lottery, I'll put the numbers through the Random Number Generator, which will pick the winner.

The Libertatem Lottery - sign up today!

@Skyrik rep,

I'm woefully ignorant on anarcho-socialist theory and am curious about how it can be thought that humanity will evolve towards collectivism without the use of coercion. Any explanation would be greatly appreciated.

*Skyrim Rep

My deepest apologies

@Liberosia:

I'm at lack of words, the joy and happiness it brings me to read your words. I can not express my happiness and gratitude fully, thank you, so so much!

You guys are my favorite people ever. I have not found such a loving place anywhere.

Thanks, Humpheria! :P Want to put your name down for the Libertatem Lottery and get the chance to win a Dead Space game code?

No thanks. I'm good.

Well, let me know if you change your mind.

So Humpheria, what ideology do you subscribe to?

Socially- I would consider myself a moderate conservative

Fiscally- Strictly conservative.

My nation doesn't really reflect my ideology, which kind of confuses me.

Don't worry about that. The whole gameplay side of NationStates is very flawed.

I'm a liberal-turned-neocon-turned-quickly radicalising libertarian. I don't think anarcho-capitalism is rational, but on issues like drugs and welfare I'm becoming more and more Austrian.

I'm glad to hear you feel at home here, Humpheria!

You guys are extremely kind and welcoming.

Arrgh, fer Z-day we all be researchin' a cure!

TTCR Falls - another one bites the dust.

On this glorious day, another outpost of tyranny has been cast upon the ash-heap of history. The True Communist Region was destroyed by the forces of Libertatem, in a raid that took courage, strength and persistence. Thank you to all who participated in taking down one of the number one communist regions.

But you can do it too! Enlist with the Forces of Freedom and help us continue the War on Tyranny!

How can I become Chairman of the Board?

You must have a seat on the board. Then you can run for Chairman given that there is no chairman.

How do I do that?

Do well. Be prominent. Then I or the founder will look to you when a seat clears up on the board.

Okie Dokie. What exactly are you looking for?

It doesn't work like that. Stay true to your own convictions and progress liberty. More I can not say.

Everyone, begin researching the cure for zombie!!!!!

thanks to Pevvania for taking time to promote the RMB via telegram. i'll try to get and stay active as i do love nationstates and i used to be very active on this site several years ago. if you're not done promoting, i'd mention in the telegrams the lottery you have going and to help us research a cure

So my Zombies are the happiest Zombies in the region.

We're gonna cure them, so they're the happiest humans in the region.

Snabagag wrote:Everyone, begin researching the cure for zombie!!!!!

How do I do that

Okay, I have a friend in class that says her region already has a cure. So I'll talk to her and see what they did.

On your page- zombie control is an option just underthe box describing your country.

Yeah, I saw it, i just thought you had to actually do something to make a cure. I just cose military force. My military is huge. And plus, my people killed 2 million zombies already.

Just wondering, How did you all get so infected in the first place? Maybe y'all should just invest more to military

Late response to Liberosia's counter-argument: I'm not very good at playing Keynesian, so I'll give you this one! :P But don't forget that the capital used to create new houses, factories and roads is merely a diversion of capital. It would have previously been spent on advancing consumer industries, developing electronics and producing luxuries.

Acranea, I haven't seen you around too much. What ideology do you follow?

Can you guys hit me with cure missiles? I only have 9 million citizens, so it shouldn't take much.

Hi, Ashton! :) No problem, just did it now!

You aren't from New Zealand by any chance, are you?

Naaaah. I'm English. I have relatives over in New Zealand though, and my sister visits regularly. :)

Pevvania wrote:Acranea, I haven't seen you around too much. What ideology do you follow?

Yeah, i joined about 5-6 days ago.

My ideas follow a free people. When I mean free, I mean to the point where I must bolster my police to get them to calm down at times. So basically, I'm like a civilized Somalia, minus the militia control. If that makes sense.

Question, why did they put in zombies?

Ashton, I'm an Aussie-Kiwi combo living in Britain. Only ever been to New Zealand once, but from what I've heard it's a great country.

Sign up to The Libertatem Lottery! Get the chance to win a Dead Space game code for Steam or EA Origin!

Well, I'll wait back in Juche Union for you guys to accept embassies. Byeee :)

See ya round, Skyrim.

Is anyone online? I'm so bored... on Chatzy.

Wow...we'ew on quarentine

Be right back. Imma leave, then join a friends region. After that, i'm unleashing a horde on him.

This is kind of a dumb question, but are they going to get rid of the zombies?

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