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Communal Militia wrote:The problems started when world war 2 started, and the cold war later.

Problems started as soon as Lenin died.

There would be no russia if it weren't for Stalin.

Communal Militia wrote:There would be no russia if it weren't for Stalin.

Russia was in existence before the Revolution even happened.

Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini wrote:RWU, you talk of Socialist propaganda. I have a story for you. My uncle moved to Iran and married a woman named Aisha. My aunt told her story of how the USA came in and got rid of democracy, how they taught in schools that the Soviet Union and Socialism was evil, how to hate Socialism. She also tells of how people were executed for speaking out for wanting freedom from the US installed "King of Kings," for wanting a chance for a better life. I'm quite disgusted you suggest the USA was this wonderful empire, they killed, they brainwashed, they oppressed, they put people on the streets, how can suggest that they were positive and liberal polices killed them? You need a history lesson

Albenia wrote:The Union did not go to crap till it's original leader (Lenin died)

- Lenin Ended the terrible Monarch Nobility.

Women have a lot of freedom in Iran don't they? Iran is in a wonderful political state right? I don't speak of propaganda, I speak of a personal account of a family member who suffered through the rule of the USSR. By the way I applaud you for copying me.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Women have a lot of freedom in Iran don't they? Iran is in a wonderful political state right? I don't speak of propaganda, I speak of a personal account of a family member who suffered through the rule of the USSR. By the way I applaud you for copying me.

Why'd you quote me?

Albenia wrote:The Union did not go to crap till it's original leader (Lenin died)

- Lenin Ended the terrible Monarch Nobility.

Lenin was not a good leader.

Albenia wrote:That's not Tue. The problems stated with the death of Lenin.

Lenin started it with stalin, they were partners in crime.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Lenin was not a good leader.

Look his policies aren't in line with yours but he still was a good leader.

1. He ended a Corrupt Monarchy

2. Actually gave a crap for the people

3. Was not an absolute dictator

4. Raised Education

5. Died

Albenia wrote:Why'd you quote me?

What?

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Lenin started it with stalin, they were partners in crime.

Except Lenin was a good guy.

Look some Communists had good ideas and were good people.

Marx

The guy who starts with E

Lenin

Trotsky

That North Vietnam guy during the war

Putin

Right-Winged Nation wrote:What?

You quoted me with the Afghanistan guys quote.

Albenia wrote:Look his policies aren't in line with yours but he still was a good leader.

1. He ended a Corrupt Monarchy

2. Actually gave a crap for the people

3. Was not an absolute dictator

4. Raised Education

5. Died

Albenia wrote:Look his policies aren't in line with yours but he still was a good leader.

1. He ended a Corrupt Monarchy

2. Actually gave a crap for the people

3. Was not an absolute dictator

4. Raised Education

5. Died

He made other countries who wanted independence forcefully join the USSR, that's not okay.

Albenia wrote:Russia was in existence before the Revolution even happened.

That is true, but the Germans would have taken over the country if it weren't for stalin, and with the high population of jews in russia, that would have ended in a much higher death ratio than Stalin ever did.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Women have a lot of freedom in Iran don't they? Iran is in a wonderful political state right? I don't speak of propaganda, I speak of a personal account of a family member who suffered through the rule of the USSR. By the way I applaud you for copying me.

Let's just end this discussion with this:

-America is the best country in the world, for nothing is imperfect of her glory. All nations are inferior to America and all should bow down to her greatness.

-Everyone has to have the same religion or else we'll kill you.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Women have a lot of freedom in Iran don't they? Iran is in a wonderful political state right? I don't speak of propaganda, I speak of a personal account of a family member who suffered through the rule of the USSR. By the way I applaud you for copying me.

I spoke nothing of the Islamic Revolution or Republic.

I was strictly speaking of the Americans' overthrow of democratically-elected President Mossadegh, in favor of the oppressive the "King of Kings." I guess it's only okay to execute political dissidents, if it favors the crony capitalists, amirite?

Albenia wrote:You quoted me with the Afghanistan guys quote.

Sorry didn't mean too

Albenia wrote:Except Lenin was a good guy.

Look some Communists had good ideas and were good people.

Marx

The guy who starts with E

Lenin

Trotsky

That North Vietnam guy during the war

Putin

Putin is fascistic to be honest, and he is no communist.

COMMUNAL THE GERMANS WOULD HAVE NEVER BEATEN RUSSIA.

Communal Militia wrote:Putin is fascistic to be honest, and he is no communist.

He's Ex-CP

Albenia wrote:You quoted me with the Afghanistan guys quote.

Your ignorance disappoints me.

Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini wrote:Your ignorance disappoints me.

...GOD....

I MEANT IRANIAN

Communal Militia wrote:That is true, but the Germans would have taken over the country if it weren't for stalin, and with the high population of jews in russia, that would have ended in a much higher death ratio than Stalin ever did.

Let's just end this discussion with this:

-America is the best country in the world, for nothing is imperfect of her glory. All nations are inferior to America and all should bow down to her greatness.

-Everyone has to have the same religion or else we'll kill you.

America isn't perfect but she still stands. The first amendment, freedom of religion allows you to believe in whatever you want.

Communal Militia wrote:Putin is fascistic to be honest, and he is no communist.

Yes with racism of gays and trying to oppress Ukraine, yeah great guy.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:America isn't perfect but she still stands. The first amendment, freedom of religion allows you to believe in whatever you want.

Unless you're a Republican

Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini wrote:Your ignorance disappoints me.

Iran stands for liberty and justice(extreme sarcasm) Iran has taken 50 steps backwards without the intervention of America.

Regan Red Nation wrote:Unless you're a Republican

What?

I don't care what you call, I have it pretty good under this economic system and have no desire to see it change, except perhaps to make it so that I won't go to jail if I withold my money from the IRS. :)

Communal Militia wrote:*KGB

He's also Ex-CP

Look it up. He was in the CP

Regan Red Nation wrote:Unless you're a Republican

....as much as I want to agree.

This is the dumbest thing I've heard. Republicans support freedom of religion.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Yes with racism of gays and trying to oppress Ukraine, yeah great guy.

"Racism of gays?" What?

Ukraine deserves to be annexed. It became a fascist hellhole on the west and most of the East wants to be annexed.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I don't care what you call, I have it pretty good under this economic system and have no desire to see it change, except perhaps to make it so that I won't go to jail if I withold my money from the IRS. :)

Here's one thing we can all agree in.

The IRS should be cut.

Suddenly, Muslims. Muslims everywhere.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Iran stands for liberty and justice(extreme sarcasm) Iran has taken 50 steps backwards without the intervention of America.

It's further ahead than it was under the "King of Kings" and his armed goons. Perhaps it would be even further ahead if it hadn't been stuck in a war with US-backed Iraq for eight years, and if the Americans weren't currently strangling the Iranian economy.

Albenia wrote:He's also Ex-CP

Look it up. He was in the CP....as much as I want to agree.

This is the dumbest thing I've heard. Republicans support freedom of religion. "Racism of gays?" What?

Ukraine deserves to be annexed. It became a fascist hellhole on the west and most of the East wants to be annexed.

Reagan nation is stating that if you're republican you are brutalized for religious beliefs.

Albenia wrote:He's also Ex-CP

Look it up. He was in the CP....as much as I want to agree.

This is the dumbest thing I've heard. Republicans support freedom of religion. "Racism of gays?" What?

Ukraine deserves to be annexed. It became a fascist hellhole on the west and most of the East wants to be annexed.

Puten said that being homosexual is unholy and should be kept away from children, Puten invaded Ukraine, not annexed them.

I'd argue that the Soviet Union was morally superior in foreign policy, because aside from the crack-down on Hungary in 1956, (EDIT: and Czechoslovakia as another poster noted) the Soviet Union didn't overthrow nearly as many governments in favor of dictatorships as the United States.

The infamous 1980 "invasion" of the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan was really the Soviet Union answering to a pre-existing military agreement in order to support the government that was already in power, which had more extensive civil rights (especially for women) than the rebel regime that the West supported. Not to mention the terrorists the Reagan administration supported in Nicaragua, for which the United States was legally condemned by the International Court of Justice in the The Republic of Nicaragua v. The United States of America, but the U.S. vetoed any measures in support of the ruling in the United Nations and didn't even issue an apology.

There is also the no small matter of the 1973 Chilean coup d'etat that the U.S. supported, which ousted the democratically elected socialist government. Or causing Iran to become a dictatorship instead of a parliamentary democracy because the U.S. and the U.K. didn't want them to nationalize their oil in 1953 (which led to the current theocracy). Or causing the Guatemalan Civil War (which claimed hundreds of thousands of lives and lasted until the 1990's) after the 1954 coup d'etat on the behalf of what is now Chiquita. Really, any CIA regime change action (Argentina, Syria, Brazil, Turkey, and possibly Greece, Venezuela), and anything associated with Operation Condor will convince you that the United States were not the 'good guys'. This is not even mentioning the human experimentation e.g. the Truman administration knowingly infecting ~700 people, some orphan children, with Syphilis in Guatemala from 1946 to 1948.

~I did not write this but I simply agree with it.

Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini wrote:It's further ahead than it was under the "King of Kings" and his armed goons. Perhaps it would be even further ahead if it hadn't been stuck in a war with US-backed Iraq for eight years, and if the Americans weren't currently strangling the Iranian economy.

He has a point here.

What really happens is America screws everyone.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Reagan nation is stating that if you're republican you are brutalized for religious beliefs.Puten said that being homosexual is unholy and should be kept away from children, Puten invaded Ukraine, not annexed them.

Racism of gays? Not property term.

He is democratically annexing them.

During the Cold War America chose to stand by Dictatorships while Russia worked to remove them.

Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini wrote:It's further ahead than it was under the "King of Kings" and his armed goons. Perhaps it would be even further ahead if it hadn't been stuck in a war with US-backed Iraq for eight years, and if the Americans weren't currently strangling the Iranian economy.

The eight year war, because of 9/11? You must be joking, Muslim radicals running the country? Bush tried to end terrorism to stop the horror that happens in Iraq. America is not in the wrong here.

Albenia wrote:Racism of gays? Not property term.

He is democratically annexing them.

He is invading Ukraine.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:The eight year war, because of 9/11? You must be joking, Muslim radicals running the country? Bush tried to end terrorism to stop the horror that happens in Iraq. America is not in the wrong here.

Every war in The Middle East was unjust except the war on Iraq

Right-Winged Nation wrote:He is invading Ukraine.

Democratically annexing.

Muslim radicals are running this country?

Crony capitalist radicals, but no muslims.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:What?

If you're in politics, and a Republican says what the media doesn't want to hear, they'll be crucified

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Regan Red Nation wrote:If you're in politics, and a Republican says what the media doesn't want to hear, they'll be crucified

If your a Democrat same thing happens. FOX is a Republican puppet media.

Albenia wrote:Every war in The Middle East was unjust except the war on Iraq

He is suggesting the war on Iraq was America's fault. Afghanistan we had to get involved because sadly America is so dependent on opec and Afghanistan was going to enter Kuwait. If America was more energy independent we would not need to have been involved.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:He is suggesting the war on Iraq was America's fault. Afghanistan we had to get involved because sadly America is so dependent on opec and Afghanistan was going to enter Kuwait. If America was more energy independent we would not need to have been involved.

Exactly.

Besides the war on Iraq which was Al-Qaeda's fault we have never been justified.

Albenia wrote:If your a Democrat same thing happens. FOX is a Republican puppet media.

Cnn and msnbc to republicans

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Cnn and msnbc to republicans

CNN is not against Republicans.

Very Pro- Obama but not Anti-Republican

Even with the American imperialists' crushing sanctions regime, the Iranian GDP grew by a half (from $362 Billion to $552 Billion) between 2009 and 2012, it has sent the US into a strategic retreat, it is, arguably, the most country in the entire Middle East (rivaled only by Turkey, which it has been developing bery strong ties with, and the Wahhabis of Sa'udi Arabia).

Right-Winged Nation wrote:The eight year war, because of 9/11? You must be joking, Muslim radicals running the country? Bush tried to end terrorism to stop the horror that happens in Iraq. America is not in the wrong here.

You've never heard of the Iran-Iraq War, I'm guessing? The one where US-backed Saddam invaded Khuzestan to try and steal Iranian oil. When they indiscriminately used chemical weapons (made from material supplied by the Americans) against Iranian civilians.

I wouldn't call Maliki much of a "Muslim radical," anyway... A fool who thought he could get away with abusing the Sunni minority, yes, but not a fool...

Unless you're talking about the Islamic State of Iraq and Shaam, after their complete conquest of Anbar last December and their recent taking of much of North Iraq. The Iranians have fought them at every turn.

Albenia wrote:Democratically annexing.

Military of russia has entered ukraine, a bit suspicious.

Albenia wrote:If your a Democrat same thing happens. FOX is a Republican puppet media.

That's true, but whose in the white house?

Regan Red Nation wrote:That's true, but whose in the white house?

A fool.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Military of russia has entered ukraine, a bit suspicious.

That "Military" are militias. The Russian Military pulled out ages ago.

Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini wrote:Even with the American imperialists' crushing sanctions regime, the Iranian GDP grew by a half (from $362 Billion to $552 Billion) between 2009 and 2012, it has sent the US into a strategic retreat, it is, arguably, the most country in the entire Middle East (rivaled only by Turkey, which it has been developing bery strong ties with, and the Wahhabis of Sa'udi Arabia).

You've never heard of the Iran-Iraq War, I'm guessing? The one where US-backed Saddam invaded Khuzestan to try and steal Iranian oil. When they indiscriminately used chemical weapons (made from material supplied by the Americans) against Iranian civilians.

I wouldn't call Maliki much of a "Muslim radical," anyway... A fool who thought he could get away with abusing the Sunni minority, yes, but not a fool...

Unless you're talking about the Islamic State of Iraq and Shaam, after their complete conquest of Anbar last December and their recent taking of much of North Iraq. The Iranians have fought them at every turn.

I have as a matter of fact, one can find Reagan's blemishes, you are correct on that.

*most powerful

Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini wrote:retreat, it is, arguably, the most country in the entire Middle East

*and it is, arguably, the most powerful country in the entire Middle East

Albenia wrote:A fool.That "Military" are militias. The Russian Military pulled out ages ago.

It's suspicious

Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini wrote:*most powerful*and it is, arguably, the most powerful country in the entire Middle East

However you can't ignore the problems still apparent in Iran.

Albenia wrote:CNN is not against Republicans.

Very Pro- Obama but not Anti-Republican

CNN looks to make republicans look horrible.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:CNN looks to make republicans look horrible.

Yep.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:However you can't ignore the problems still apparent in Iran.

I would say Saudi Arabia

Right-Winged Nation wrote:CNN looks to make republicans look horrible.

Not true.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:It's suspicious

Not really

Albenia wrote:Not true.Not really

The tanks that rolled in, suspicious.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:The tanks that rolled in, suspicious.

They rolled out.

The rest are Militia tanks.

Albenia wrote:They rolled out.

The rest are Militia tanks.

It's just not a good sign.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:It's just not a good sign.

Blame the Militias of East Ukraine fighting the Fascist West

Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini wrote:*most powerful*and it is, arguably, the most powerful country in the entire Middle East

Who are you, anyway?

Please don't feed the troll. No one honestly believes Stalin's reforms did more for the workers than the than the US' confused economic polices of the era.

Furthermore the USSR =/=communism and USA =/capitalism. Want to talk about propaganda how about basing an entire pissing match on a flawed premise thought in public schools

Lack There Of wrote:Please don't feed the troll. No one honestly believes Stalin's reforms did more for the workers than the than the US' confused economic polices of the era.

Furthermore the USSR =/=communism and USA =/capitalism. Want to talk about propaganda how about basing an entire pissing match on a flawed premise thought in public schools

This is the most beautiful thing. USSR=/=Communism. SOMEONE BESIDES ME FINALLY SAID IT!

I love you!

But Communal isn't trolling.

Albenia wrote:Blame the Militias of East Ukraine fighting the Fascist West

I guess I'm paranoid

Albenia wrote:This is the most beautiful thing. USSR=/=Communism. SOMEONE BESIDES ME FINALLY SAID IT!

I love you!

But Communal isn't trolling.

The inevitable result of communism, perhaps, but that isn't really relevant to a discussion on theory and philosophy. And if he's serious he provides a great example of why I hate democracy, but no one is honestly that ignorant.

Lack There Of wrote:The inevitable result of communism, perhaps, but that isn't really relevant to a discussion on theory and philosophy. And if he's serious he provides a great example of why I hate democracy, but no one is honestly that ignorant.

You hate Democracy.

Holocaust Deniers.....Hitler Apologists....

Albenia wrote:You hate Democracy.

Holocaust Deniers.....Hitler Apologists....

Haha.

Regan Red Nation wrote:Two off the bat

Shouldn't you have a picture of Reagan as your flag?

Ankha wrote:Agreed ^

Ankha wrote:Agreed ^

I mean abby road is a great album, but that doesn't tie with reagan

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Shouldn't you have a picture of Reagan as your flag?

Shouldn't your flag be literally anything else

Right-Winged Nation wrote:I mean abby road is a great album, but that doesn't tie with reagan

I mean Dark Side Of The Moon was a great album, but that doesn't a tie with right wing politics

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Shouldn't you have a picture of Reagan as your flag?

You have a dark side of the moon flag, wouldn't be talking.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:I mean abby road is a great album, but that doesn't tie with reagan

I like the Beatles. In fact (lucky me), next next tuesday, Im going to a Ringo Starr concert. Irony indeed....

Ankha wrote:I like the Beatles. In fact (lucky me), next next tuesday, Im going to a Ringo Starr concert. Irony indeed....

Ok, you need to stop with your ticket purchasing skills

Ankha wrote:I like the Beatles. In fact (lucky me), next next tuesday, Im going to a Ringo Starr concert. Irony indeed....

You are lucky!

Lack There Of wrote:I mean Dark Side Of The Moon was a great album, but that doesn't a tie with right wing politics

I'm doing it to be funny, hippy counter culture contradicts the name. Is he doing the same?

Regan Red Nation wrote:You are lucky!

Ankha wrote:I like the Beatles. In fact (lucky me), next next tuesday, Im going to a Ringo Starr concert. Irony indeed....

Lucky

Lack There Of wrote:Ok, you need to stop with your ticket purchasing skills

No, its crazy! i live in Buffalo NY and we have some sick bands coming to a nice spot near me.

www.artpark.net

But, Lack, I do have mad ticket purchasing skills....

Regan Red Nation wrote:You have a dark side of the moon flag, wouldn't be talking.

I think that is actually likely my favorite album of all time....

Ankha wrote:I think that is actually likely my favorite album of all time....

Top two albums, dark side of the moon and abby road.

I confess, the British invasion in the 60s is where it's at. Beatles are the greatest of all time in my opinion.

I couldnt miss out on the customization...

Ankha wrote:I couldnt miss out on the customization...

Oh no?

Notice the......nation.

Ankha wrote:Notice the......nation.

I know, so what do you think

Right-Winged Nation wrote:I know, so what do you think

Who's the greatest?

Ankha wrote:Notice the......nation.

Sick flag by the way

Ankha wrote:I think that is actually likely my favorite album of all time....

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Top two albums, dark side of the moon and abby road.

Probaly rubber soul and pepper are my favorite.

At what ^ (band, nation, artist, song, album)

If you mean band, I like Pink Floyd best, then Beatles, followed by Van Halen.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Who's the greatest?

Totally Nickel Back, their edgy songs really speak to my youthful tendencies in addition to their originality and rocking sound

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Sick flag by the way

Ive had the graphic a while. It looks AWESOME....so I found a use(, besides getting it blown up and on my wall..)

Regan Red Nation wrote:Probaly rubber soul and pepper are my favorite.

Two very good albums

Ankha wrote:At what ^ (band, nation, artist, song, album)

If you mean band, I like Pink Floyd best, then Beatles, followed by Van Halen.

Not bad, love all three

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