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Muh Roads wrote:Who here is voting FOR the "liberation" of CAPS? Are you all traitors or what? :p

I'll get the guillotine ready.

The New United States, Muh Roads, Industrial City

Voting for superfluous resolutions is all the rage these days.

The New United States

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:I'll get the guillotine ready.

Make it extra dull!

The New United States, Industrial City

Muh Roads wrote:Who here is voting FOR the "liberation" of CAPS? Are you all traitors or what? :p

I'll go under your guillotine my Lord Roads. I used my WA puppet to vote for the liberation of CAPS.

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The Communist threat places our liberties and everything the hard working and industrious members of the free world have earned. The so-called "liberation" of CAPs must be taken seriously as a threat to everything the members of Libertatem hold sacred.

Pevvania wrote:We need some more citizenship applications. There aren't enough citizens in our region, imo.

I've tried.

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Russell Brand Abused By Protesters At Anti-Austerity March In London

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/06/22/russell-brand-london-march-_n_7634570.html

Every one of these people here is a parasite of the lowest degree.

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Pevvania wrote:Russell Brand Abused By Protesters At Anti-Austerity March In London

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/06/22/russell-brand-london-march-_n_7634570.html

Every one of these people here is a parasite of the lowest degree.

I don't like him in the slightest, but why do all these lefties have to throw out the word 'misogynist' at every man they don't like?

Pevvania

New Shizturdea wrote:I've tried.

I'm going to apply for citizenship once I've been here the 10 days.

New Shizturdea

Wovenland wrote:I don't like him in the slightest, but why do all these lefties have to throw out the word 'misogynist' at every man they don't like?

Because it's easier to just call someone a bigot than actually demonstrate the instability of their ideals.

Pevvania, Lewayiin, New Shizturdea

"Small-government" Republicans at work: 149 Republicans in the House and 26 Republicans in the Senate voted against the 2010 HIRE Act, an Obama Administration initiative that cut the Social Security payroll tax for employers.

I'm confused about how this CAPS issue is happening, how was it secured, how are we going to stop the WA from "liberating" it?

I feel like I missed something...

Tyrinth

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:I feel like I missed something...

Ditto

The Aradites wrote:I'm confused about how this CAPS issue is happening, how was it secured, how are we going to stop the WA from "liberating" it?

In October 2014, a Libertatem- and REATO-led coalition of regions invaded the Congress Of Armed Proletarian States, an interregional organisation of leftist empires and terrorist groups that sought the destruction of our region and its allies. The goal of CAPS was to orchestrate interregional cooperation in numerous matters, including on military affairs. I had a puppet nation inside the region who was able to get the password. Our invasion was composed primarily of REATO infantrymen, but soldiers from The Communist Bloc and Glorious Nations Of Iwaku aided our invasion. At one point, more than 50 nations supported the delegate, [nation=short]Republic of Minerva[/nation]. Eventually we locked it down with a password, but the founder, whose powers were non-executive, remained. We controlled the region, but did not have total control over it - if the password were removed, anyone could enter the region. The Internationale, who have seemingly given up on waging any meaningful military campaigns, pushed a proposal through the World Assembly Security Council to "liberate" CAPS - meaning, remove the password. It got to vote, but we refounded the region. Now, the liberation proposal, even if it passes, will have absolutely no effect. But I hope it passes to show onlookers that CAPS has been liberated - liberated from Communist aggression.

Tyrinth, The Aradites

Pevvania wrote:In October 2014, a Libertatem- and REATO-led coalition of regions invaded the Congress Of Armed Proletarian States, an interregional organisation of leftist empires and terrorist groups that sought the destruction of our region and its allies. The goal of CAPS was to orchestrate interregional cooperation in numerous matters, including on military affairs. I had a puppet nation inside the region who was able to get the password. Our invasion was composed primarily of REATO infantrymen, but soldiers from The Communist Bloc and Glorious Nations Of Iwaku aided our invasion. At one point, more than 50 nations supported the delegate, [nation=short]Republic of Minerva[/nation]. Eventually we locked it down with a password, but the founder, whose powers were non-executive, remained. We controlled the region, but did not have total control over it - if the password were removed, anyone could enter the region. The Internationale, who have seemingly given up on waging any meaningful military campaigns, pushed a proposal through the World Assembly Security Council to "liberate" CAPS - meaning, remove the password. It got to vote, but we refounded the region. Now, the liberation proposal, even if it passes, will have absolutely no effect. But I hope it passes to show onlookers that CAPS has been liberated - liberated from Communist aggression.

So refounded basically means that REATO took control as founder when CAPS was founderless and without a delegate.

Indeed.

I must say, I'm disappointed - not that we succeeded (as CAPS is safer in our hands), but that it was so easy. Here I was, prepared to protest Misley's campaign against incredible odds, and rally troops to keep the Red Fleet at bay... and instead we cheated them out of the chance for a rematch.

I'm not saying that this was the wrong thing to do, but I am saying that the ressurection of this conflict - which I thought was over, to tell you the truth - has resulted in a need to change our priorities.

If we are so unwilling to accept the WA's challenge, then maybe we should sheath our metaphorical sword, put our raiding past behind us. There are other ways to keep liberty alive than to be the aggressors.

We haven't raided in a while, regardless. All of our recent actions were to merely preserve what was legitimately gained or expropriated from us, like CAPS or the Western Empire respectively. (The latter was a friend's region that fell to Nazi appropriation) I think it's much easier to win people over if we kept to ourselves, too, and followed our ideals to the letter. Aggressors are always on the losing side, so it goes.

Although I dislike Lincoln, he is right in implying that converting enemies to friends is a better deal than destroying them (but he was a hypocrite, so whatever).

Lewayiin

I think me and Humpy were referring to the mods intervening on all those posts.

Let's set things straight here and now, regarding recent telegrams and posts... I will not see the war ceased during my presidency. With Pev less busy now, the raiding game will be pushed even harder.

I'm going to do my best to see that the amount of soldiers we have at our disposal increased, and ensure our soldiers are well taken care of. I.e. a system that rewards those who actually participate in raids. I've got a few ideas I'm working on as we speak.

Miencraft, Tyrinth, The New United States, Humpheria In Libertatem, Skril, Industrial City

The American Empire In Libertatem wrote:I'll go under your guillotine my Lord Roads. I used my WA puppet to vote for the liberation of CAPS.

I'm sorry to hear this Amarican. RWN... you need to look into this...

[B]This is a revolution.[/B]

Yeah man this is the real deal, the pig's squeal, it is time to dispose of the tyrants above us, uh uh uh love us love us tyrants above us

We, the PEOPLE OF LIBERTATEM, demand the following:

-renationalization of the radio

-abolishment of the board and giving power back to the people

-banjection of the traitor Pevvania

-ban of the Reaganist Libertarian Party

Humpheria In Libertatem

er... good luck with that.

Muh Roads, give up your presidency [B]NOW[/B]

I'm a bit confused. I never knew Minerva wanted to be a comedian.

New Shizturdea

It is not time to call it quits. It is not time to cave to the demands of those who wish for our very destruction. It is not time to end The War on Communism.

Miencraft, Muh Roads, Humpheria In Libertatem, Industrial City

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Muh Roads, give up your presidency [B]NOW[/B]

Can't tell if serious.

So when there was a scandal in Liberatem that had nothing to do with the Internationale, they bust down my door asking for comments.

I offer a statement on the refound of CAPS, and that ignore me ands block me from sending telegrams.

I forgot that was how state media worked. Tripping over themselves to point out a minute issue here, but refusing to publish anything negative. Very telling, comrades.

Miencraft, The New United States

No one's talking about caving. We can still have a war, but I don't see the strategic purpose of back-and-forth trolling with the Fleet. The War on Communism is, and always has been, a war on multiple fronts, and it's time we stop ignoring the others. There are totalitarian organizations out there that have not only become more dangerous than the Fleet, but have actively worked against our interests before - you guys know who I'm talking about.

In any case, our military efforts would be best suited for the defense of libertarian regions first and foremost. Engaging in retaliatory invasion is our modus operandi, it's true, but it's not really retaliation if we're not responding to some recent offense. Has either side of the Fleet conflict pulled off anything since we first took CAPS?

Didn't think so. So can we stop pretending Misley leads some sort of Red Menace? Honestly, the Fleet itself is just about as dead as the majority of REATO's former signatories - that is to say, not very alive.

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:So when there was a scandal in Liberatem that had nothing to do with the Internationale, they bust down my door asking for comments.

I offer a statement on the refound of CAPS, and that ignore me ands block me from sending telegrams.

I forgot that was how state media worked. Tripping over themselves to point out a minute issue here, but refusing to publish anything negative. Very telling, comrades.

Why'd The Internationale name their newspaper The Red & Black?

Because if they named it The Yellow, they'd actually be telling the truth!

Ha... Ha....

Pevvania, Humpheria In Libertatem

The New United States wrote:Why'd The Internationale name their newspaper The Red & Black?

Because if they named it The Yellow, they'd actually be telling the truth!

Ha... Ha....

More like the brown.

The New United States wrote:It is not time to call it quits. It is not time to cave to the demands of those who wish for our very destruction. It is not time to end The War on Communism.

Then participate.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Then participate.

What is there to participate in? I've already put my puppet where I was told to.

Since he wants me "Join, Hump" I'm starting to get really confused.

Hump, your up too bat.. turns out my grandfather back in MI doesn't have much time left. I'll be heading out that way tomorrow and won't be on much. Sorry for the sudden notice.

Muh Roads wrote:Hump, your up too bat.. turns out my grandfather back in MI doesn't have much time left. I'll be heading out that way tomorrow and won't be on much. Sorry for the sudden notice.

Sir, yessir.

I'll just be needing the launch codes.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:[B]This is a revolution.[/B]

Yeah man this is the real deal, the pig's squeal, it is time to dispose of the tyrants above us, uh uh uh love us love us tyrants above us

We, the PEOPLE OF LIBERTATEM, demand the following:

-renationalization of the radio

-abolishment of the board and giving power back to the people

-banjection of the traitor Pevvania

-ban of the Reaganist Libertarian Party

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Muh Roads, give up your presidency [B]NOW[/B]

I know that these quotes are a joke but,

- even though I hate the RLP I respect their right to exist.

-Pev is too awesome to banject.

- Lord Roads it's the best President that Libertatem has ever had.

I do however support dissolving the board.

Pevvania

I am socialist, so I don't actually mind if you guys are against communist totalitarianism. In fact, I could help you. United Mercenarium is where you could plan your attack or deceive the enemy.

Best and Worst Intellectuals

Best: Thomas Sowell, Milton Friedman, Murray Rothbard

Worst: Noam Chomsky, Paul Krugman, Karl Marx

http://tinyurl.com/nt5t9o7

"Medical doctors aren't real doctors, us witch doctors were here first, we know medicine is about chanting away demons and cleansing the aura!"

"Ancaps aren't real anarchists, us ancoms were here first, we know that anarchy is about having a democratically elected anarcho-government with complete control over the economy! And no, that's not a state because reasons!"

Arguably AnCaps are older. Jakob Mauvillion.

Imo Chimpsky should stick to linguistics.

So... Um... I'm new here... I don't think we should focus solely on the Communists... Fascism is a huge problem. We should focus on them as well.

Lewayiin, Hallo Island

Vahdhazi wrote:So... Um... I'm new here... I don't think we should focus solely on the Communists... Fascism is a huge problem. We should focus on them as well.

The fascists haven't been as militant as the communists.

Unless they have, in which case we probably already beat them up a lot.

16 hours ago: The Founder of Liberosia password-protected the region.

What happened ? A raid ?

The city-state of Industrial City is very proud to announce that it is now officially a citizen of Libertatem. Industrial City will be celebrating with parades tomorrow through Sunday, sponsored by Atlas-Cola. Parade organizers will still be accepting new sponsors.

-Howard Atlas, Chairman of The Industrial City Board of Directors

Industrial City wrote:The city-state of Industrial City is very proud to announce that it is now officially a citizen of Libertatem. Industrial City will be celebrating with parades tomorrow through Sunday, sponsored by Atlas-Cola. Parade organizers will still be accepting new sponsors.

-Howard Atlas, Chairman of The Industrial City Board of Directors

Good for you, weird Bioshock/Atlas Shrugged hell scape.

Industrial City

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:16 hours ago: The Founder of Liberosia password-protected the region.

What happened ? A raid ?

No, President Roads has been called away and it is a temporary precaution put into place by myself until he returns.

If Donald Trump wins the presidency, I am moving to Europe. Capitalism is great, yes, but that much big business in government will destroy us.

Miencraft wrote:The fascists haven't been as militant as the communists.

Unless they have, in which case we probably already beat them up a lot.

...Actually, yes, they have, and no, we haven't. In recent months, we have had only a few missions related to stopping fascism, and the Nazis repelled us at every turn. (Well, except for refounds.) If being invaders is what we're all about, then we should definitely step up our game here.

Conservative Idealism wrote:...Actually, yes, they have, and no, we haven't. In recent months, we have had only a few missions related to stopping fascism, and the Nazis repelled us at every turn. (Well, except for refounds.) If being invaders is what we're all about, then we should definitely step up our game here.

Huh, I thought we had done more.

Well, that's why I'm Internal Affairs and not Military.

Humpheria In Libertatem

Hallo Island wrote:If Donald Trump wins the presidency, I am moving to Europe. Capitalism is great, yes, but that much big business in government will destroy us.

True

Miencraft wrote:Huh, I thought we had done more.

Well, that's why I'm Internal Affairs and not Military.

Don't get me wrong - we've prevented the fash from reclaiming vast numbers of their old territories... but only through refounding. Our attempts to kick them out of existing strongholds have been less successful - and less numerous. The Nazi community barely knows we exist, and when they do make note of it, it is to ridicule us.

Like I said, it's time we stop beating a dead horse (the Fleet) and start making good on our promise to competently oppose all totalitarians, whether through defense or offense.

Industrial City

Don't get sick guys. It sucks.

Hello I'm interested in learning about Libertarem?

The Libertarem military** sorry

Vahdhazi wrote:So... Um... I'm new here... I don't think we should focus solely on the Communists... Fascism is a huge problem. We should focus on them as well.

That is very true. The fascist regions are renowned conquerors and evil capitalists... I mean evil totalitarians. We NEED to combat the fascists and stop focussing on the weak communists. If we don't, our liberal region itself could be in jeopardy. Third Rome is at the heart of the massive fascist community. I say we liberate their vassal regions and attack the small fascists before aiming big.

Pevvania wrote:http://tinyurl.com/nt5t9o7

"Medical doctors aren't real doctors, us witch doctors were here first, we know medicine is about chanting away demons and cleansing the aura!"

"Ancaps aren't real anarchists, us ancoms were here first, we know that anarchy is about having a democratically elected anarcho-government with complete control over the economy! And no, that's not a state because reasons!"

I have never heard an ancom say that their Idea is older, and I don't think how older correlates to better.

I have heard the ancaps are not real anarchists, but it is for different reasons.

So this is syndacalism you are talking about, I am pretty sure there are many more types of libertarian anarchism, like collectivism.

Factcheck wrote:libertarian anarchism, like collectivism.

What.

Also, I fail to see what any of that had to do with what is clearly a joke.

Hallo Island

So uh... Do we prepare the war wagons, or naw?

Against the fascists, that is.

I am back! I went out camping for three days and no reception or internet. I saw the mods complained on here, what happened?

Right-Winged Nation wrote:I am back! I went out camping for three days and no reception or internet. I saw the mods complained on here, what happened?

Leftists got butthurt that we took CAPS. Welcome back.

Hey guys, the hijab is a feminist statement! https://www.facebook.com/theguardian/videos/10153421342496323/

Disagree? Then you're a racist sexist patriarchal oppressor!!!!

Pevvania wrote:Hey guys, the hijab is a feminist statement! https://www.facebook.com/theguardian/videos/10153421342496323/

Disagree? Then you're a racist sexist patriarchal oppressor!!!!

Modern people make my brain hurt.

Pevvania wrote:Hey guys, the hijab is a feminist statement! https://www.facebook.com/theguardian/videos/10153421342496323/

Disagree? Then you're a racist sexist patriarchal oppressor!!!!

Also, telling women what to wear is sexist and part of rape-culture unless you're Muslim in which case we love you!

Pevvania wrote:Leftists got butthurt that we took CAPS. Welcome back.

Yay

Alright everyone, we're going to vote on the TOTAL RECALL Amendment.

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=pevvania/detail=factbook/id=412482

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Pevvania wrote:Hey guys, the hijab is a feminist statement! https://www.facebook.com/theguardian/videos/10153421342496323/

Disagree? Then you're a racist sexist patriarchal oppressor!!!!

Islam is against individual rights & free trade. If we want to know how the religion of Islam intended women to be treated one only needs to look at the historical example of Medina, where Muhammad himself was the head of state, and how the women were treated there. The models in the videos that she is criticizing for being over-sexualized are savvy business women earning what they have through their own endeavor and free will, and are often making a good living for themselves. The Muslim woman in this video is certainly free to express her views, but she is able to do so only because she enjoys the individual freedoms that a person enjoys from living in a free market economy. Had she lived under a Caliphate she would not be so free to speak her mind.

This message sponsored by the good folks at Atlas-Cola.

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-Howard Atlas, Chairman of The Industrial City Board of Directors

Pevvania

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:Alright everyone, we're going to vote on the TOTAL RECALL Amendment.

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=pevvania/detail=factbook/id=412482

Is the vote open to the House?

Why does [nation=short]Hallo Island[/nation] oppose the TOTAL RECALL Amendment?

The Aradites wrote:Is the vote open to the House?

I believe so. Constitutional amendments are agreed to via two of the following

-Approval by the founder

-Approval of 2/3rds of voting House Members

-Approval of 100% of the President, Board and Managers

Industrial City wrote:Islam is against individual rights & free trade. If we want to know how the religion of Islam intended women to be treated one only needs to look at the historical example of Medina, where Muhammad himself was the head of state, and how the women were treated there. The models in the videos that she is criticizing for being over-sexualized are savvy business women earning what they have through their own endeavor and free will, and are often making a good living for themselves. The Muslim woman in this video is certainly free to express her views, but she is able to do so only because she enjoys the individual freedoms that a person enjoys from living in a free market economy. Had she lived under a Caliphate she would not be so free to speak her mind.

This message sponsored by the good folks at Atlas-Cola.

http://s23.postimg.org/yh2mnaeiz/Atlas_Cola.jpg

-Howard Atlas, Chairman of The Industrial City Board of Directors

Yeah, that's pretty spot-on. I have had several Muslim friends, just as I have had several socialist friends, but like socialism, this does not excuse the fact that Islam is a barbaric, misogynist, tyrannical ideology.

Miencraft, Industrial City

I demand all government personnel adopt anime characters in their flags.

Pevvania, Hallo Island

Pevvania wrote:Why does [nation=short]Hallo Island[/nation] oppose the TOTAL RECALL Amendment?

Why does everyone have to harass me everytime I oppose legislation? Can I just vote nay? Is that alright?

I approve the TOTAL RECALL Amendment, wholeheartedly

Pevvania

Hallo Island wrote:Why does everyone have to harass me everytime I oppose legislation? Can I just vote nay? Is that alright?

Do you think that this amendment will get you recalled?

Pevvania wrote:Do you think that this amendment will get you recalled?

Do you think you can leave me alone?

Hallo Island wrote:Do you think you can leave me alone?

Don't act like that. You're a Board Member. You're supposed to be under scrutiny. Surely you should be able to explain to your constituents the reason for a vote? Refusing to explain your vote isn't very good for the democracy you claim to champion.

Pevvania wrote:Don't act like that. You're a Board Member. You're supposed to be under scrutiny. Surely you should be able to explain to your constituents the reason for a vote? Refusing to explain your vote isn't very good for the democracy you claim to champion.

I'm sick of everyone who disagrees with the majority being harassed. I'm not going to answer. Democracy allows me to vote without having to justify my choice.

Lewayiin, The American Empire In Libertatem

My constituents should trust in my ability to act positively on their behalf, and should trust my good judgement.

Hallo Island wrote:My constituents should trust in my ability to act positively on their behalf, and should trust my good judgement.

I'm new here so I'm not sure what Pevvania is upset about. Can someone bring me up to speed?

Pevvania wrote:Do you think that this amendment will get you recalled?

I don't know if he does, but I do. I like the intention behind it, but there are other ways to make our Board more accountable.

I vote NAY. If I don't use my puppet to vote in the poll, make a note of it.

Conservative Idealism wrote:I don't know if he does, but I do. I like the intention behind it, but there are other ways to make our Board more accountable.

I vote NAY. If I don't use my puppet to vote in the poll, make a note of it.

Like what?

Hallo Island wrote:My constituents should trust in my ability to act positively on their behalf, and should trust my good judgement.

You're not being persecuted. I, for one, am genuinely curious about your rationale. Besides, your argument is entirely flawed. Your idea of democracy is the exact opposite of democracy.

Pevvania

So, I am a little more than obsessed with Harry Potter.

As the Chairman of The Industrial City Board of Directors I will openly say I am voting "Yea" on the proposed amendment. Libertatem should be treated like all of our nations are like free individuals participating in the market place of ideas. This means that nations that are in positions of leadership are responsible for the quality of their ideas, as well as their ability to implement them well.

The new amendment will help create a sense of trust and professionalism between the leader nations and the rest of the region. It's to the benefit of all Libertatem that leaders are accountable for providing a good services just like they are in the business world.

-Howard Atlas, Chairman of The Industrial City Board of Directors

I am new so my opinion doesn't really matter, but I'm gonna give it to you anyway. I don't think the Total Recall amendment should be passed mainly because of the number of times a vote can be brought up against a board member. Three times per term is too much. Once should be it. Trying to spam votes is not really democracy. Also, it is going to be nearly impossible to guarantee who voted for the board member in the first election. That part is overly complicated and too hard to enforce.

I may be back with more.

I'd like to maintain my spot on the board this term

Pevvania

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