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The mod banned me from the forums, instead. *face palm* what?
I am open to giving a Das Kommune to stop acting like children and I will let them seek reconciliation. But, should they continue to scream incomprehensibly, we will let them do their thing.
The difference is that they reported you, but you didn't report them. Make a note of which RMB posts violated site rules (and keep the telegrams in which you are insulted), and file a moderator report.
Exactly.
I've never reported anyone, and never plan on doing that. There's no sense in that (unless it's an actually serious issue), in difference is that I have thick skin and don't care and they don't.
Then they'll just keep doing that, thinking it's something totally OK to do.
I'm surprised the thought never crossed any of there minds: "gee, actually, this guys not doing anything wrong and is actually contributing the activity and discussions on the RMB!"
But no, irrational thoughts plauges the mind instead.
Post self-deleted by Atomic Fest.
"The point of Das Kommune is that it's a place for leftists to talk with each other."
Except for tsar! :p
I like that Custadia guy. He has a way of making things make sense. Almost makes me want to convert to radical leftism. Or maybe do what he says and surrender Libertatem unconditionally for no reason.
Seriously, though, Tsar, you should report them, else they'll just keep going about using the mods as ideological weapons.
Awww. Kazirstan didn't post anything. I was hoping that we could have a riveting debate.
That concept is alien to state-coms.
It just warms my heart to see all these Salon.com attack articles against libertarianism. They think that they're hurting the movement. No - they're bringing us the attention we need.
It begins.
The only person that I have ever reported to the mods was tsar.
In my opinion, DK has a right to regulate it's RMB, as it is their property. They should not, however, ban speech or nations that are not a direct military threat, rationally speaking. This is the truly liberal attitude.
Yet deeper we must consider the rights of the Bolshevik man. Yet should we even call him a man? For it is logical to assume that, renouncing the principles individualism, he has renounced his rights that are derived from the observation of reality and man's operation within reality. This would lead us to the conclusion that they have forsaken their individual rights, and have therefore forsaken all claims to the rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
I strongly stress that they can always regaie these rights by affirming their nature as a rational being, and affirming that they are willing to deal with other men not by force but by reason alone. Their twisted altruistic socialist ideology is the driving force behind the atrocities committed in history. There is really no difference between national Socialism and Bolshevik communism. In the end, these are ideologies of violence. They have no place in a free and rational Society.
They have embraced the Orwellian system of doublethink and blackwhite, and this has allowed them to blur the lines of reality to a space that they can never come back from, and a space that they have now allowed to permeate throughout their entire lives. Procuring a war against such ideologies as that of Bolshevism is the greatest act of heroism I can possibly imagine, for a rational animal such as man has nothing to gain from this war but everything to lose.
Great speech lib.
For what reason? It must have been a really long time ago.
I wouldn't even call it Socialism, as it barely resembles it. I share Orwell's view on the soviet union, and the only reason he called it socialist in his books is the fact that they, themselves, claim to be socialist and communist. They call there oligarchies, communist parties, while barely resembling the actual thing at all. They stamper on and on about how they 'are true communists, that they will someday reason communism,' but this is all a lie. The oligarchy would never give up power, it was never controlled by workers, it was never true.
Nah. Orwell didn't call them Socialist in 1984 he specifically named it Oligarchic Collectivism.
And if they want 1984 I can give them my INGSOC party that o made up using book data.
Wow. I'm speechless.
But I must say that there's nothing wrong with altruism - but coercive altruism is one of the greatest evils of all.
remember when I was founder of The Common Republic and you hacked into a nation? It was after ucr fell because of the cooperative Republic thing.
By the way, guys, I've prepared a table comparing the economic performance of Reagan and Obama, just for you: http://i.imgur.com/QqJwHct.png
THIS is the hand you play when someone claims that Obie has a better legacy. Just one of the absolutely humiliating statistics detailed in the comparison:
Jobs created under Reagan: 20 million
Jobs created under Obama: 464,000
The guy gave me his password and told me to 'check his nation'. It turned out he was lying and was a spy.
Agreed. Society can uphold altruism as a great thing, as long as it isn't forced upon people.
I know he was a NBE puppet I was too remember. Not finns NBE britions.
U.S. president Party Term years Start jobs End jobs Created Ave annual increase
Harding/Coolidge R 19211925 25,000 ** 29,500 ** +4,500 ** +4.23% **
Calvin Coolidge R 19251929 29,500 ** 32,100 ** +2,600 ** +2.13% **
Herbert Hoover R 19291933 32,100 ** 25,700 ** -6,400 ** -5.41% **
Franklin Roosevelt D 19331937 25,700 ** 31,200 ** +5,500 ** +4.97% **
Franklin Roosevelt D 19371941 31,200 ** 34,480 ** +3,280 ** +2.53% **
Franklin Roosevelt D 19411945 34,480 41,903 +7,423 +5.00%
Roosevelt/Truman D 19451949 41,903 44,675 +2,772 +1.61%
Harry Truman D 19491953 44,675 50,145 +5,470 +2.93%
Dwight Eisenhower R 19531957 50,145 52,888 +2,743 +1.34%
Dwight Eisenhower R 19571961 52,888 53,683 +795 +0.87%
Kennedy/Johnson D 19611965 53,683 59,583 +5,900 +2.64%
Lyndon Johnson D 19651969 59,583 69,438 +9,855 +3.90%
Richard Nixon R 19691973 69,438 76,290 +6,852 +2.38%
Nixon/Ford R 19731977 76,290 80,237 +3,947 +1.29%
Jimmy Carter D 19771981 80,692 91,031 +10,339 +3.06%
Ronald Reagan R 19811985 91,037 96,353 +5,322 +1.43%
Ronald Reagan R 19851989 96,353 107,133 +10,780 +2.69%
George H. W. Bush R 19891993 107,133 109,726 +2,593 +0.60%
Bill Clinton D 19931997 109,726 121,233 +11,507 +2.52%
Bill Clinton D 19972001 121,231 132,466 +11,233 +2.24%
George W. Bush R 20012005 132,466 132,553 -13 -0.002%
George W. Bush R 20052009 132,553 133,631 +1,129 +0.21%
Barack Obama D 20092013 133,631 135,295 +1,536 +0.28%
Barack Obama D 20136/2014 135,295 138,941 +3,646 +1.80%
**Approximate
Sagonatopia was Britons puppet?
No. That was the 1st common republic. I re founded it. I was saying that you did hack a NBE person. It was not finns nbe. It was britions The New British Empire.
Pev, if they care so much to make a statement, then something is being done right. Rather have negative attention (Ron Paul), then no attention at all, like the Canadian Libertarian Party. If you have negative attention, then you are obviously a threat that they care enough to warrant such slander.
(On the Salon)
Emphases added to add emphasis to the irony
And Libertatem is modeled after a corporation.
Ironically, Libertatem in practice is somewhat syndicalist, since it allows for "workplace" democracy despite the hierarchy.
OH MY GOSH! YOUR RIGHT!
LIBERTATEM IS ONE OF THE BEST LEFTIST REGIONS ON NS! Without being Leftist. Hahaha
Zeouria, I measured jobs added as the number of new workers in the labour force. During the Gipper's presidency, the number of Americans in the workforce jumped from 165 million to 185 million. The number under Obama has increased by just over 400,000, which actually represents a reduction in the percentage of Americans in the workforce.
Yes well, if you read the rest of it.....
True but that's only in function and not in right.
now that we all know the truth, looks like its time to look for a new home
That's actually a pretty fair measure, but you also have to consider the number of people entering / leaving working age. The reason why Carter was considered a lousy president on the economy was that while the rate of job creation was relatively high by percentage, the baby boomers were entering the workforce in the 70's and it still wasn't enough. The rate of baby boomers entering the workforce leveled off in the 80's and job creation remained relatively high giving us the economic boom we remember.
Debunking the Daily Kos article pasted in DK.
First Somalia. Somalia doesn't protect private property rights, and therefore is irrelevant to the topic. If the No True Scotsman fallacy was relevant, then Somalia would call itself libertarian, which it doesn't, or that it has features of libertarianism, which it doesn't.
Second some banter on economics about policy or whatever. Pev, your link?
"Feudalism arises in absence of a state." Thousands of things can arise in the absence of the state. Capitalism is the natural evolution of feudalism, and why wouldn't it arise? If there was no modern technology to speak of, then sure, we'd have feudalism. But the ability to divide labor and produce a fvckton through the capitalist system that would then enrich society as a whole is what separates feudalism from capitalism. Feudal societies are not "natural" because they have laws that maintain those class distinctions which capitalism lacks.
The thing that most, if not all people believe is that a small state is automatically a weak state, which isn't correct. A state can be powerful enough - and has to be - to protect private property and enforce rights. When we talk of "small government," we merely talk about a government that barely intervenes in the lives of its citizens and has little administration beyond the basics, but is powerful enough to have an army, protect it's citizens from foreign aggression, etc. Hence most libertarians support something more than a German style confederacy.
Third, libertarian economics have worked before. Medieval Iceland. Early Pennsylvania. If we are talking about pure capitalism, or near pure capitalism, then I'd like to point out that for almost 100 years (1830-1930) America was either laissez-faire, or pretty dang close. Although a bit more socially conservative, the two don't have to be linked, and logically, if you want a non-interventionist state, than that would be a state that doesn't involve itself in moral affairs as well as economic.
Really the article is a bigger attack against anarcho-capitalism, which most libertarians aren't in the first place and see the necessity of the state as arriving to it's conclusion after theorizing the effects of competing PDAs.
And of course it finishes off with a naturalistic fallacy. Nice job.
Minerva, could one read Nozick's book without reading Rawls's and still gain? I thought Nozick wrote his as a response.
Liberosia, Funkytopia, Humpheria, and Miencraft all volunteered and are qualified for jury duty thusfar.
Gain what, exactly?
Nozick's ASU was a response to Rawls Theory of Justice, yeah.
If Libertatem were to have saints then who would we canonize?
Ronald Reagan
Ayn Rand
Margaret Thatcher
Anyone else?
The Almighty Humpster.
I smell Catholic oppression. We don't do saints here
Fine who would we list as people to recognize in the Libertarian Movement? Happy now?
Ayn Rand as a saint? Buahahahaha
Not a religious saint but a Libertarian Saint.
Ayn Rand hated Libertarians. Either way, by canonizing her you make her roll in her grave!
Lol if Libertatem was based on the Catholic Church lol. His holiness Liberosia.
"I made a puppet before and was is kommune for a while. I never bothered anyone and was liked. Discussion skyrocketed and everyone benefitted. But then, as soon as I said I was tsar, I was instantly told to leave and never come back. So, I left and came back later to attempt the same thing. Which, look at the facts, help das kommune:
1. Adds to a much needed RMB discussions
2. Adds a different voice in the others
3. Through my intelligence, I can spread information and information can be spread to me
It's a win-win for both sides. That is, if both sides cooperate (which I had the intent to do both times, and one can see that). Thus, it's illogical and irrational to ban me from Das Kommune for life."
A message to Das Kommune.
And Anarchists.
Paid for by...the people who put ads on your screen. *shakes fist* CAPITALIST PIGS!!!!!
It's actually not brought to the screens by capitalists, but rather the council for foreign affairs in Zostra. *waves red and black flag*
Fun fact Mondays! On the outskirts of Zostra (capital of Zeouria) many eat and raise Capitalist Pigs! Fascist Pig-Dogs have almost entirely been eliminated for there bad taste and the horrors they inflict on the other wildlife.
Fun Fact: In the outskirts of Taarsk, there's a battle going on between Miencraft and Minovdigon.
I think that's more interesting.
You wish...
Ha.
Communist Swine are amongst the strongest species.*
*just to be fair :p
No! Nothing is more interesting then my fun facts!!! Hence the name!! *points finger, gives stern look*
You meant Equines for sure.
Fun fact: Crickets can be convinced to transform into locusts.
No! no... n-...ooo... *melts*
No, I didn't. Don't even get started. :|
Yes.
Heck. I went so far as to make it an ideology.
She was a woman of strong opinions.
That's... just.... come on, man!
In my nation, sentient ponies are used as beasts of labor. >=D
The Lenin of Libertarianism. Authoritarian personality, libertarian ideology.
It's worse than you think. You wanna hear it?
Jaslandia invented it.
I revised it.
Me and him are the Marx and Lenin of Ponyism
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0E8xdhuOQCI
Me and him are the Marx and Lenin of Ponyism
Another classic:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R7pWh5HYI44
Ponyism: A political, social, and economic philosophy that advocates the superiority of anthropomorphic and non-anthropomorphic horses in all areas.
[B] Foundations of Ponyism
[U] Transequinoism
1. Equines are encouraged to grow in intelligence
2. They shall do this until they are smarter than humans on a grand stage
3. Equines are meant to rule over the world as it's dominant species.
[U] Humans
1. Humans are an inferior species to Equines
2. A call for mass extermination of all resistant humans.
3. All cooperative humans shall be allowed to live as Pets or Slaves of the Equines
4. Humans who are Truly loyal may become Equines themselves.
[U] Other theories
1. All can live together peacefully by way of hard work.
2. A world without wars benifets everyone
3. Only humans who advocate Ponyism shall be allowed to have a small say in the equine ran world.
4. Science is mans way of explaining what can be explained by magical teachings.
Kinkiness is fine until it leads to mass extinction...
Resistant humans. Don't resist no problem...And this us Revised to be Human friendly.
Wow. That was not disturbing..
Hahaha...
And that's the Huamn friendly version (I.E.) the one I revised. Haha.
The first was just kill all people.
Wow. Thats so nice.
You wanna be the fourth person on NS to follow it?
No.
Haha didn't think so.
I'd rather hear tsars stories on how glorious Anarcho Communism would be. Sorry tta.
*looks at the words illogical and irrational--looks at Tsar*
Live long and prosper
RWN has volunteered for jury. We need 1 more confirmation.
Good to hear. We need to get this trial over with.
It's funny, because non-libertarians think we all idolise her, when in fact we're much more divided on her legacy than that.
HELL YEAH!
4 hours ago: Pevvania was ranked in the Top 1% of the world for Lowest Overall Tax Burden (last census: Top 5%).
You just now got into the top 1%? I've been there for ages.
Well, it looks like Gabriel Possenti has defeated you yet again. So close to the top.
Eh, we don't have #1 medals anyways, so I'm top 5% regardless.
So, watched both games last night, and having to stay awake in all my classes are becoming a struggle.
Wow. Everyone knows that real libertarians hate sports and that the gubmint just funds football to keep us all docile. Because we all know its impossible to enjoy sports and support liberty
Lack, a libertarian is allowed to enjoy sports. They aren't suppose to be own by the government, they are suppose to be private organizations. Of course, this is not the case. Still, a libertarian is allowed to enjoy sports.
My main nation is only two places behind Miencraft for Lowest Overall Tax Burden in the world.
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[/sarcasm] if it wasn't clear enoughSorry Lack
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