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Region: Libertatem
RLP Quote of the Day:
"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty." -John F. Kennedy
The RLP believes that this should not only be the foremost thought of the regional population, but the ultimate strategy by this administration to achieve our goals.
Miencraft, Conservative Idealism In Libertatem
TNUS returns! Glad to have you back. We've been recently discussing your greatest achievement in the region - the WAR Act.
Do you agree with Statist Idiot of the Day's analysis of the Libertarian Party?
[spoiler]I hope that in 2015 the Libertarian Party is dismantled. It's been around for 44 years and it hasn't accomplished anything of value. They've never elected a candidate to the house or the senate, and they don't currently hold any seats in any state legislatures. Their big goal is to get 5% in any election and if they do it's a big deal. They couldn't even get 1% in 2012. If you can't even get 20% of your desired goal, it's time to move on. They're wasting resources that could be better spent elsewhere.
For the most part, Libertarian Party candidates aren't philosophical libertarians. They're mostly comprised of rejects from the two major parties. Their last two presidential candidates (Johnson and Barr) held office in the Republican Party, couldn't move up, so they left to become the major person in the new party filled with other rejects.
3rd party candidates stand no chance on getting elected, so both major parties use them to their advantage. It doesn't really make a difference if the Republicans or Democrats hold office, as long as one doesn't control everything, but at times both parties love the Libertarian Party. In close races, such as the 2013 Virginia gubernatorial election, the LP candidate was a reject from the Democratic Party, and he was funded by a billionaire democrat. There are dozens of examples of both parties taking advantage of 3rd party candidates, this was just one that came to mind.
Did the Libertarian Party contribute to Marijuana legalization in Washington and Colorado? No, that was NORML. Did they do anything to stop gun control? No, that was Gun Owners of America and the NRA. Did they cause a revival in libertarian principles? No, that was a Republican Party presidential candidate. Have they done anything to stop police abuse? No, that's Cop Block, Peaceful Streets (I know I hate Buehler but he does deserve some credit for this), and other Cop Watch groups.
Ismail Brinsley was a lunatic Black Power Marxist. He did more for liberty in 2 minutes than the LP has done in 44 years. Look at how much the arrest numbers have gone down: http://bit.ly/1BqOVZK Great article about this topic.
If you're going to participate in the political process, at least go and take Julie Borowski and Libertarian Girl's advice and vote for liberty minded republicans. There are other methods that are more effective, such as civil disobedience and massive migration to a particular area (FSP, BRLP, Anarchapulco, etc.). I highly doubt that the issue of statism and authoritarianism will be resolved without a revolution or a civil war, but I hope they will.[/spoiler]
'Bout time he showed up.
Thanks, and it's nice to be back!
I agree with that... I think it would be interesting to see the results if the LP were to disband.
They're all for it:
https://www.aclu.org/racial-justice/affirmative-action
"Our state has never been stronger. Not because of our government, but because of our people."
Pence is killing it with his State of the State.
I think you're going to need to get your citizenship back if I'm not mistaken, which we can work out later.
Or you could just not get it back, if that's your thing.
And welcome back.
True story.
"Affirmative action is one of the most effective tools for redressing the injustices caused by our nation's historic discrimination against people of color and women, and for leveling what has long been an uneven playing field"
It's funny because no.
A lot of their other stuff seems good, though, but honestly I just don't understand how affirmative action makes sense to anyone.
The only way that speech would've sounded better is if it ended "... and God bless the United States of America." That was Presidential quality, without a doubt.
Affirmative Action made sense at the time of 1970's(still didn't agree with it but I understood why it was done.) However, Affirmative Action needs to be gotten rid of in this day and age.
Seems to me that people should be able to enact whatever admission or hiring policy they want.
Indeed he is. Despite the government kindergarten reference, he seems like a decent man. Very well spoken.
I agree. Despite the blatant unconstitutionality of AA, racial quotas and criminalisation of private sector discrimination, I think from a utilitarian view these were effective at alleviating racism. Now, all these things do is hinder black progress, and should be gotten rid of.
^
Even better if you move onto my couch.
Shouldn't you be asleep?
I think that it is essential to our freedoms that all people are given equal opportunity to make of their lives whatever they wish so long as they work to achieve it. However it seems to me to be fundamentally illogical to attempt to further said freedom through authoritarian means. Liberty can never be engineered through the diktats of the state.
Should be. But I don't play by the rules. #LibertarianThugLife
Aye. There also seems to be growing evidence that AA harms minorities, since employers tend to view those who exploit it as too unskilled to be normally hired.
FMO, is your flag that of the British Libertarian Party?
"FMO, is your flag that of the British Libertarian Party?"
Indeed. I liked the design, so I expropriated it in the name of the people! Jk.
Excellent, comrade! Seize the means of production!
I live in the UK, and if the UK Libertarian Party were a viable option I'd vote for it. But this is the same organisation that asked followers of its Facebook page to stand for MP under the party. Yeah. So I'm not getting my hopes up. We're probably doing a better job putting more libs in the Tory Party anyhow.
No, it's not a viable option. I haven't voted in a while for a lack of legitimate choice. What do you think of UKIP?
UKIP is pretty cool. I don't know as much about it as I should, but my friend can't stop talking about it.
Watch this-
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bypLwI5AQvY
I feel ya. For a while I had planned on voting for them, but their nonsensically bigoted positions on immigration, marriage and other issues have really discouraged me from casting a vote for them. I had believed that they might accomplish some good, due to their vocal support for withdrawing from the EU, legalising guns and drugs, cutting taxes and moving towards privatisation of the NHS. But sadly, in the past six months they've decided to instead pander to the working class/Labour vote, and have affirmed a position on the NHS further left than Cameron's. I think in reality, Farage probably will try to privatise the NHS and other services, but as long as he is a slave to Labour voters I really can't be sure.
So I'm undecided. I might just go into the polls and tick the box next to my name and the Self-Ownership Party ^_^
I do hold a favourable opinion of UKIP and would probably for them. However there are a number of racists among their ranks, UKIP as a organisation isn't racist and bigotry, but bigots and racists hold positons of power in the party. Hence I do have my woes and concerns about UKIP being in government.
Number one for most politically apathetic citizens in Libertatem, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Indeed. I am not partial to the economically illiterate, protectionist tripe that immigration erodes the economy.
What is the best way to introduce somebody to libertarianism?
11th least politically apathetic citizens in Libertatem. Yay!
Exactly, immigration in many ways can support, grow and strengthen economies. Problems occur when a government, and the society it serve, can't cope with the levels of incoming migrants. That I agree with, not the nonsense UKIP comes out with sometimes.
Keep up the good work.
You too.
Thanks
Congratulations to the Federal Islands, a region that recently voted to merge with us, on being the Featured Region!
Hump your slacking, you are not even in the top ten for most politically apathetic, c'mon man.
Hi
I don't do issues man. Y'all keep me too busy.
Come on, you gotta get it.
Uh, oppression is uncool man
I'd come up with a response, but, eh, I don't care.
Congrats, TFI!
chirp chirp chirp
Still alive.
Just had leg day at the gym. That kills, man.
See!! The gym must be bad for you if its a killer!
"A genuine leader is not a searcher for consensus but a molder of consensus." -Martin Luther King Jr.
The RLP wishes the President the best, but urges him to follow this quote. The last thing that Libertatem needs is a subservient administration. Follow the lead of your storied predecessors and have the gall needed to lead this region.
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It's good that you don't skip leg day.
Indeed. I already have pretty good legs as it is, but there's always more room to define!
"One does not simply sit down on leg day" -The Internet
The RLP supports always doing leg day. NEVER skip leg day.
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John Boehner: talk tough to appease conservatives, and then inevitably cave to Obama.
Why is this man still taken seriously?
I don't take him seriously anymore. My rep voted for Pelosi (he's a dem), but I would've voted for someone else.
I think the only people who take Boehner seriously are super-conservatives. They feel a sort of dependency because the other option is Pelosi and that is last thing the (and everybody who has some sense) wants. Basically Boehner is the shiniest of two turds.
+1. I doubt Obama will attempt to veto bills that get presented to him now. He's a lame duck President.
Yeah he'll just get bored with golfing and vacationing and sign a bunch of executive orders just to piss of the GOP.
Even still, I think the GOP won't win the White House in 2016 simply because of social issues that get some more-liberal voters riled up to go to the pools.
Yeah social issues, i think, are going to be the reasons why the GOP wont win the White House in quite some time. If they could get their conservative social views (anti-gay marriage, etc.) and simply run on economics and maybe foreign policy, they would be a powerhouse again. However, this really does show how awful American society is nowadays. Most people would rather give up their economic and political freedoms in exchange for a socialist government that claims they support gay rights and that they need to fix the "racial tensions" but will wait out their entire term without even touching the issue and everyone is left with no change, crappy standing with past allies, and a downright awful economy.
Correction: Get over their social views
Which is why I'm thinking about running for office later in life.
This will determine my favorite person in the region. Where does my flag come from? No googling.
I was originally inclined to say something about Ireland or some other thing in that general area, but since your title is "Super Hoosier" I'm inclined to believe it has something to do with Indiana.
But it probably doesn't and I'm just silly and not recognizing flags.
Its also from big bang lol...
:P
I'm aware of this now.
Its a joke. I have no clue what he took it from....just sayin.lol
I googled the image and it does seem like it is indeed from Big Bang Theory.
I feel like I should have known that, but at the same time my history geek side tells me I should recognize it as a European flag.
Ya, Im not good at geography so I know it from my favorite comedy. :P And its a really great show in case you dont watch.
It is love, it is life.
"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln
We'll leave it at that, Mr. President.
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Git outta here. Hoodlums.
PAHAHAHAHA!
Aside from the lols, good quote.
Good quote.
>_>
Now, then, I see that House voting for the HOLIDAY Act is coming to a close.
It appears to have passed the House, with 6 (I believe) valid votes for it, and no votes against.
How goes the Board voting?
Once Pev starts it, we'll vote.
It isn't an Indiana thing. At least, it's not an Indiana thing I'm familiar with...
Oh, jeez. Maybe I should read the RMB more carefully next time... people already said what it's from. :P
I didn't think it would be.
I'm sure it's some European flag, though. Maybe not in modern times, but maybe if you go back far enough...
It looks like I'm not the only one who needs to read the RMB more carefully! :P
I know what it is, but it looks a hell of a lot like something I've seen before in historical context in Europe.
Knowing what it is, I don't think that's very unlikely.
I was right! Ha
Well, "Azure a lion rampant Or," which is the heraldic description of Humph's flag, is apparently the coat of arms of the Sound family of England.
http://cheshire-heraldry.org.uk/vale_royal/VRE24.html
I'm a bit of a heraldry fanatic. Crusader Kings 2 is one of my favorite games for that, not to mention seducing empresses and murdering Karlings.
Just want to warn you all, if you ever find yourself on reddit and happen to end up in /r/politics, get out as soon as possible. It honestly should be called /r/liberalsthathateanythingrightwing. Everything that has even an ounce of right-wing is bashed and anybody who defends capitalism, is anti-welfare, or doesn't support Obamacare is immediately shot down and called a "racist, poor-hating, greedy c**t" (actual comment). I haven't been this annoyed in a while so I decided to vent here.
Reddit - you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. You must be cautious.
Y'know what would be awesome? If Rand Paul became President, then nominated Judge Andrew Napolitano to the Supreme Court.
I would die.
"Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower." -Steve Jobs
As the RLP looks back on the innovations of the RLP political presidencies, things like FRAUD, BOARD, ELECT, Presidents' Amendment, COURT, REPEAL, among other things, we applaud the President's HOLIDAY Act. He should be very proud.
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Brrr sarcasm...
[B]Board Meeting - the HOLIDAY Act[/B]
Cast your vote for the HOLIDAY Act: http://www.nationstates.net/nation=conservative_idealism_in_libertatem/detail=factbook/id=353281
It passed the House with unanimous, cross-partisan approval.
Voting ends at 7:00 PM EST (12:00 AM GMT)
I am casting my vote FOR.
HOLIDAY passes the Board unanimously.
Good people of Libertatem:
I would like to take a walk back in time for just a moment, to reflect upon the achievement we have all worked toward today.
So I reevaluated my answer, and here we are.
As of today, January 16th, not only is there a Humpheria Day (October 26th, in case you're wondering), but there is also a legal precedent for the establishment and celebration of regional holidays; the HOLIDAY Act passed both houses unanimously, a major victory for bipartisanship and Libertatem's cultural advancement.
Everyone, thank you for supporting this legislation, and I assure you that there will be more to come.
Are you proud?
To answer your question, yes. Yes, I am.
The HOLIDAY Act is a regional achievement. It does not owe its success to any one party; citizens of all parties helped write it, both houses passed the bill unanimously, and it was signed into law by a non-RLP President. It may not be as groundbreaking as the legislation devised by members of the RLP (which does not include the BOARD Amendment, by the way), but it's proof that you don't have to follow the majority party to lead Libertatem to positive change.
I also have a relevant quote:
"Learning and innovation go hand in hand. The arrogance of success is to think that what you did yesterday will be sufficient for tomorrow." - William Pollard
Technically this is inaccurate because the board 4/5 RLP and we could have shot this down, so you kinda have to.
Perhaps, but for what purpose would you have done so? I trust you and your fellow Board members not to halt the legislative process to promote your party just as you trust me not to wield the clout of my position to promote mine - to sacrifice the prosperity of the region for petty party politics would be divisive and unfair, and we all know that very well.
I am honored to work with you to make achievements like this possible, but please do note that I don't work for you - every voter shares the credit for the success of this law, not just those who caucus with the majority. My point is, the capacity to benefit ourselves and this region does not lie solely within the establishment, but within each one of us.
* barges in and disregards any relevant conversation*
So here i am sitting around with some friends last night and we dive into the dangerous realm of politics. My roommate goes on his little "if the world was socialist everything would be great tirade" when another guy (for reference he is a bio-chem/pre-med major with a deep hatred of everything political) spouts out some of the deepest philosophical statements i have ever had the good grace of hearing:
"Socialism is a lot like jumping into a vat of acid, It has been proven NOT to give you superpowers"
Board Log - the Holiday Act
Chairman - AYE
Humpheria - AYE
Actum - AYE
Right-Winged Nation - AYE
The Neo-Confederate States of America - AYE
Here is a short interesting test : http://easydamus.com/alignmenttest.html
Apparently I'm a Lawful neutral, which means that I like government regulation, " community's wellness " over individual freedoms, big government, and above all law as long as it serves the majority of the people.
Pretty much everything I despise, it might not be very accurate lol.
4 hours ago: The warring states of the mediterranean ceased to exist.
However, simple mathematics will tell you that you do need their support.
Naturally.
Neutral Good here. I suppose I can live with that.
I'm thinking of hosting a Superbowl party and inviting some friends around. One problem: I know nothing about the Superbowl, let alone American football. Anyone know where I can educate myself about these things?
I know the stuff, but its kinda hard to teach exept by watching alot of it. (or playing it)
I guess google works.
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