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Hallo Island wrote:The first one is actually pretty true.

So is the second. It's ingrained in our society.

But not the third, obviously.

Eh, I can think of a few wars which have been started by women. I'm sure wars will still occur once women become a larger part of government.

Kings Island wrote:Are you honestly going to say that men aren't raped. The rest is debatable. The latter is a lie. According to the CDC, roughly 7% of men report being forced to penetrate a woman.

It's vastly underreported and the media doesn't care, but it's a serious issue.

Forced to penetrate a woman!!!! Are you kidding, i can never be forced to penetrate a women because guess what it is impossible to say no to sex, in case of men.

International Union For Peace wrote:Forced to penetrate a woman!!!! Are you kidding, i can never be forced to penetrate a women because guess what it is impossible to say no to sex, in case of men.

IE raped. Legally it's not rape, because we have a gendered justice system, but morally it is.

Arousal in men is not necessary. Stress, chemicals, and physical pressure can facilitate the rape of men (if you understand what I'm getting at, I can't use the word because of NS rules).

A man can certainly not want to have sex. There are a number of reasons for this.

Kings Island wrote:IE raped. Legally it's not rape, because we have a gendered justice system, but morally it is.

Arousal in men is not necessary. Stress, chemicals, and physical pressure can facilitate the rape of men (if you understand what I'm getting at, I can't use the word because of NS rules).

A man can certainly not want to have sex. There are a number of reasons for this.

A man can only refuse sex for one reason, he is LGBTQ/asexual. Any other case, and I would just call it an excuse for revenge after fallout from a partner.

International Union For Peace wrote:A man can only refuse sex for one reason, he is LGBTQ/asexual. Any other case, and I would just call it an excuse for revenge after fallout from a partner.

Or he's married and his rapist is not or, gee, maybe he's not attracted to a particular. If you're suggesting that physically men are too strong, then I would remind you that sexual assault is largely facilitated by psychological control and that, besides, some men are physically weak.

International Union For Peace wrote:A man can only refuse sex for one reason, he is LGBTQ/asexual. Any other case, and I would just call it an excuse for revenge after fallout from a partner.

Ok, yeah, you're joking.

You do not actually believe this. This is just a joke.

Good one.

Kings Island, Humpheria, Midland County, International Union For Peace

I really hope it's a joke. I really do.

Humpheria

International Union For Peace wrote:A man can only refuse sex for one reason, he is LGBTQ/asexual. Any other case, and I would just call it an excuse for revenge after fallout from a partner.

I'm honestly baffled, at this point. And I thought the worst of it would be your economic illiteracy.

Kings Island

International Union For Peace wrote:Anyways during the 1940s Soviets acheived universal literacy. Even today the US has a 99% literacy rate.

I'm sorry but this one is too easy. You do know in the US they count people with mental disabilities in these figures so it is therefore impossible to get a 100% literacy rate. I wonder if "there are no invalids in the USSR!" and universal literacy has anything in common. Probably not, eh?

Kings Island

Kings Island wrote:Or he's married and his rapist is not or, gee, maybe he's not attracted to a particular. If you're suggesting that physically men are too strong, then I would remind you that sexual assault is largely facilitated by psychological control and that, besides, some men are physically weak.

What has marriage got to do with se*?? And what has attractiveness got to do with se*, you just need a vag*na for se*. As I say cover the face fu*k the base.

International Union For Peace wrote:A man can only refuse sex for one reason, he is LGBTQ/asexual. Any other case, and I would just call it an excuse for revenge after fallout from a partner.

You know in many cases of rape, women orgasm from it. That doesn't mean the rape was fine because she enjoyed it, it means her body is reacting differently to her mind's will. In fact, people who are raped and orgasm generally feel worse after the experience than those who don't. It adds another level of shame, guilt for 'enjoying' it, it makes them feel dirty.

Miencraft

Wovenland wrote:You know in many cases of rape, women orgasm from it. That doesn't mean the rape was fine because she enjoyed it, it means her body is reacting differently to her mind's will. In fact, people who are raped and orgasm generally feel worse after the experience than those who don't. It adds another level of shame, guilt for 'enjoying' it, it makes them feel dirty.

With women you can force her to have sex, even if she orgasms it's her body reacting. Men are different in this regard, I beleive in gender equality, but this is much more complicated, i know of no man who would say no to sex.

International Union For Peace wrote:What has marriage got to do with se*?? And what has attractiveness got to do with se*, you just need a vag*na for se*. As I say cover the face fu*k the base.

I'm not going to do this. You're clearly trolling

International Union For Peace

Wovenland wrote:You know in many cases of rape, women orgasm from it. That doesn't mean the rape was fine because she enjoyed it, it means her body is reacting differently to her mind's will. In fact, people who are raped and orgasm generally feel worse after the experience than those who don't. It adds another level of shame, guilt for 'enjoying' it, it makes them feel dirty.

http://artyomthecat.tumblr.com/post/124516151798/cognitivedissonance-hakuna-mituna-dreamsofkitt this isn't mine by the way I saw it in another forum.

International Union For Peace wrote:With women you can force her to have sex, even if she orgasms it's her body reacting. Men are different in this regard, I beleive in gender equality, but this is much more complicated, i know of no man who would say no to sex.

So you're only friends with assholes. Case closed.

Miencraft, The New United States, Humpheria

Post self-deleted by Wovenland.

Midland County wrote:So you're only friends with assholes. Case closed.

Okay so being sexually active passes for asshole nowadays, no surprise conservatives are winning elections left and right.

International Union For Peace wrote:With women you can force her to have sex, even if she orgasms it's her body reacting. Men are different in this regard, I beleive in gender equality, but this is much more complicated, i know of no man who would say no to sex.

Hold up guys, we've found someone who knows of no man who'd refuse sex therefore [B]ALL MEN WANT SEX ALL THE TIME![/B]

Miencraft, Humpheria, International Union For Peace

Wovenland wrote:Hold up guys, we've found someone who knows of no man who'd refuse sex therefore [B]ALL MEN WANT SEX ALL THE TIME![/B]

It's TRUE, live with it.

International Union For Peace wrote:Okay so being sexually active passes for asshole nowadays, no surprise conservatives are winning elections left and right.

Sexually active =/= has sex uncontrollably with everyone and everything that looks at him funny

Miencraft

The New United States wrote:Sexually active =/= has sex uncontrollably with everyone and everything that looks at him funny

Why are you people making sex so much of a taboo, am I in an ISIS forum?? What is the difference between you people and ISIS?

International Union For Peace wrote:Why are you people making sex so much of a taboo, am I in an ISIS forum?? What is the difference between you people and ISIS?

Well we're talking to someone who's an advocate of male rape so I'm confused if you really are Valerie Solanas.

International Union For Peace wrote:Why are you people making sex so much of a taboo, am I in an ISIS forum?? What is the difference between you people and ISIS?

We're not. We're criticizing you for saying that it's impossible for men to resist having sex ever.

Miencraft, International Union For Peace

Kings Island wrote:Or he's married and his rapist is not or, gee, maybe he's not attracted to a particular. If you're suggesting that physically men are too strong, then I would remind you that sexual assault is largely facilitated by psychological control and that, besides, some men are physically weak.

Yeah, I know plenty of women who could beat me up.

Miencraft, International Union For Peace

The New United States wrote:We're not. We're criticizing you for saying that it's impossible for men to resist having sex ever.

Well I thought that was true, you are the first people I am meeting on this planet who said that sex can be resisted by men.

Wovenland wrote:Well we're talking to someone who's an advocate of male rape so I'm confused if you really are Valerie Solanas.

Wel I am an extreme feminist, like a feminazi.

FEMINAZI and proud of it.

International Union For Peace wrote:Well I thought that was true, you are the first people I am meeting on this planet who said that sex can be resisted by men.

I urge you to stop. Go outside. Introduce yourself to people. Make friends. Please, just for once, I want you to experience human interaction.

Miencraft

Wovenland wrote:I urge you to stop. Go outside. Introduce yourself to people. Make friends. Please, just for once, I want you to experience human interaction.

I would like to correct myself, I have met people who say that men can resist sex, but they were all conservative. I thought this was a liberal region but all of you are behaving like my dad( a hardcore conservative).

Midland County wrote:So you're only friends with assholes. Case closed.

Orgasm is a physical reaction, caused by stress. Arousal is not necessary.

Miencraft, International Union For Peace

International Union For Peace wrote:I would like to correct myself, I have met people who say that men can resist sex, but they were all conservative. I thought this was a liberal region but all of you are behaving like my dad( a hardcore conservative).

We are liberal. Classical liberals.

International Union For Peace wrote:Wel I am an extreme feminist, like a feminazi.

FEMINAZI and proud of it.

Offfff course you are. Who else would vehemently state that men always want sex, even if the woman is 300 lbs or a horrible individual. If he orgasms, it's consensual!

Imagine the outrage if I said the same about women.

Miencraft, The New United States

Wovenland wrote:We are liberal. Classical liberals.

Liberals don't run away from sex.

How would you guys feel about getting involved with the World Space Administration?

International Union For Peace

International Union For Peace wrote:I would like to correct myself, I have met people who say that men can resist sex, but they were all conservative. I thought this was a liberal region but all of you are behaving like my dad( a hardcore conservative).

We're bloody libertarians. Conservatives are not Libertarian, and we aren't conservatives. The word for people who acknowledge statistics collected by research institutions, including the CDC, is rational.

We advocate marriage equality, legalizing all drugs, separation of church and state, and military non intervention. Not very conservative

Miencraft

International Union For Peace wrote:Liberals don't run away from sex.

This isn't running away from sex. For all I care people can have sex with whoever they like, whenever they like. It's none of my business, however there's a difference between accepting it and forcing men to participate in it because we know better than them.

Miencraft, International Union For Peace

Kings Island wrote:Offfff course you are. Who else would vehemently state that men always want sex, even if the woman is 300 lbs or a horrible individual. If he orgasms, it's consensual!

Imagine the outrage if I said the same about women.

Typical conservative response, expected better from a libertarian, why don't you libertarians just throw away your mask and stand with the conservatives, don't walk on double standards.

International Union For Peace wrote:Typical conservative response, expected better from a libertarian, why don't you libertarians just throw away your mask and stand with the conservatives, don't walk on double standards.

And yet you're the one proudly perpetuating double standards. Oh, the irony.

Miencraft

Wovenland wrote:This isn't running away from sex. For all I care people can have sex with whoever they like, whenever they like. It's none of my business, however there's a difference between accepting it and forcing men to participate in it because we know better than them.

Okay, i never thought men can be forced, if men can be forced then that is also rape and wrong, and I support you. But deep inside I don't believe men can be raped.

International Union For Peace wrote:Liberals don't run away from sex.

Running away from sex? Really? It's not sex. It's rape.

Miencraft, International Union For Peace

International Union For Peace wrote:Okay, i never thought men can be forced, if men can be forced then that is also rape and wrong, and I support you. But deep inside I don't believe men can be raped.

Roofies and viagra, you ass.

Miencraft

International Union For Peace wrote:Okay, i never thought men can be forced, if men can be forced then that is also rape and wrong, and I support you. But deep inside I don't believe men can be raped.

It doesn't matter what you believe. Wanting to have sex or not is an individual's choice.

Miencraft, International Union For Peace

International Union For Peace wrote:Okay, i never thought men can be forced, if men can be forced then that is also rape and wrong, and I support you. But deep inside I don't believe men can be raped.

Ignorance is bliss, eh?

Miencraft

Kings Island wrote:We're bloody libertarians. Conservatives are not Libertarian, and we aren't conservatives. The word for people who acknowledge statistics collected by research institutions, including the CDC, is rational.

We advocate marriage equality, legalizing all drugs, separation of church and state, and military non intervention. Not very conservative

The republicans would be happy to know that liberals like you support legalizing drugs. You people are like in between, better you chose a side, or else you would lose support of both liberals and conservatives.

International Union For Peace wrote:Typical conservative response, expected better from a libertarian, why don't you libertarians just throw away your mask and stand with the conservatives, don't walk on double standards.

It's called "logic". I find that although conservatives posess a great deal less of it than us, they possess a great deal more than liberals.

International Union For Peace wrote:The republicans would be happy to know that liberals like you support legalizing drugs. You people are like in between, better you chose a side, or else you would lose support of both liberals and conservatives.

I vote for the Libertarian Party, actually.

Republic Of Minerva, International Union For Peace

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikd0ZYQoDko&ab_channel=VenerableB

Kings Island wrote:It doesn't matter what you believe. Wanting to have sex or not is an individual's choice.

It is hard to beleive that a man would chose not to have sex, but if that is the case, then I support the personal liberties of men.

Kings Island wrote:It's called "logic". I find that although conservatives posess a great deal less of it than us, they possess a great deal more than liberals.

Oh now you openly support conservatives over liberals, the mask is out ladies and gentlemen.

International Union For Peace wrote:Oh now you openly support conservatives over liberals, the mask is out ladies and gentlemen.

This isn't a secret, we do tend to support conservatives over neo-liberals on many issues. However, they are also stupid in most other regards.

Miencraft

Kings Island wrote:Running away from sex? Really? It's not sex. It's rape.

Okay, I got your point, but mine is also valid, since women are more vulnerable than men, male rape laws can be blatantly misused, you should atleast accept that.

Wovenland wrote:This isn't a secret, we do tend to support conservatives over neo-liberals on many issues. However, they are also stupid in most other regards.

Where did you get your political knowledge from, neo-liberals = libertarians= classic liberals

Midland County wrote:How would you guys feel about getting involved with the World Space Administration?

I would love that.

International Union For Peace wrote:Where did you get your political knowledge from, neo-liberals = libertarians= classic liberals

Neo-liberals=modern liberals

Classical liberals=Libertarians

Miencraft, Kings Island

Wovenland wrote:Neo-liberals=modern liberals

Classical liberals=Libertarians

Then where do the left socialists come into the equation?

Wovenland wrote:Neo-liberals=modern liberals

Classical liberals=Libertarians

Then where do the left socialists come into the equation?

International Union For Peace wrote:Then where do the left socialists come into the equation?

I'm fairly sure you answered this for yourself in the 'socialist' part of your question.

Kings Island, International Union For Peace

After due consideration, I would like to announce a change of my political affiliation from socialist to a libertarian.

Midland County

This is an interesting debate.

International Union For Peace wrote:Okay, I got your point, but mine is also valid, since women are more vulnerable than men, male rape laws can be blatantly misused, you should atleast accept that.

So we should just let people who rape men escape with no punishment.

And what man would pretend to be raped? It's incredibly socially harmful for a man to admit he was sexually assaulted.

Miencraft, International Union For Peace

International Union For Peace wrote:What has marriage got to do with se*?? And what has attractiveness got to do with se*, you just need a vag*na for se*. As I say cover the face fu*k the base.

Is no one else going to talk about this? This is disgusting and disrespectful. He has gone too far.

Miencraft, Kings Island

Humpheria wrote:Is no one else going to talk about this? This is disgusting and disrespectful. He has gone too far.

I already addressed it, I think.

International Union For Peace

Humpheria wrote:Is no one else going to talk about this? This is disgusting and disrespectful. He has gone too far.

SORRY if that offended you, but this is called freedom of speech, you may not agree, but that's the point.

International Union For Peace wrote:SORRY if that offended you, but this is called freedom of speech, you may not agree, but that's the point.

Just like how you have a fundamental misunderstanding of capitalism, sociology, psychology, gender equality, and debate, you seem to also suffer from a misunderstanding of the term freedom of speech.

I mean come on, really? "Cover the face, **** the base"? And we "conservatives" are disrespectful to women, huh?

Miencraft, Kings Island

Humpheria wrote:Is no one else going to talk about this? This is disgusting and disrespectful. He has gone too far.

Agreed.

International Union For Peace wrote:SORRY if that offended you, but this is called freedom of speech, you may not agree, but that's the point.

There's something called public-decency, and we would appreciate it if you respected that; that people don't want you posting your derogatory, dehumanizing smut on our Board. Thanks.

Miencraft, Kings Island

Humpheria wrote:Just like how you have a fundamental misunderstanding of capitalism, sociology, psychology, gender equality, and debate, you seem to also suffer from a misunderstanding of the term freedom of speech.

I mean come on, really? "Cover the face, **** the base"? And we "conservatives" are disrespectful to women, huh?

That was meant as a sign of rebellion against established social norms, I thought you got that. And this is not even disrespectful to women, girls can use the same attitude to fu*k boys, it is called being cool, and not giving a fu*k. This was not directed against women but against established intitutions of decency and social norms, it's a very popular phrase.

The New United States wrote:Agreed.

There's something called public-decency, and we would appreciate it if you respected that; that people don't want you posting your derogatory, dehumanizing smut on our Board. Thanks.

SORRY, again, I respect your sentiments and promise to never do this again. I apologize from the bottom of my heart.

Post self-deleted by The New United States.

International Union For Peace wrote:That was meant as a sign of rebellion against established social norms, I thought you got that. And this is not even disrespectful to women, girls can use the same attitude to fu*k boys, it is called being cool, and not giving a fu*k. This was not directed against women but against established intitutions of decency and social norms, it's a very popular phrase.

What are you even saying? I am having trouble telling what is real and a joke with you.

It was smut. And by the way replacing one letter of that word does not make it better. We have a friendly RMB that everyone should feel comfortable with. Please stop saying it.

Miencraft, Kings Island

Wovenland wrote:This isn't a secret, we do tend to support conservatives over neo-liberals on many issues. However, they are also stupid in most other regards.

Social liberals.

Neoliberals are *okay.*

International Union For Peace

International Union For Peace wrote:That was meant as a sign of rebellion against established social norms, I thought you got that. And this is not even disrespectful to women, girls can use the same attitude to fu*k boys, it is called being cool, and not giving a fu*k. This was not directed against women but against established intitutions of decency and social norms, it's a very popular phrase.

That's not cool. If being cool means using people for sex, I'm pretty lame.

Miencraft, Kings Island, The New United States, Humpheria, Midland County

Humpheria wrote:What are you even saying? I am having trouble telling what is real and a joke with you.

It was smut. And by the way replacing one letter of that word does not make it better. We have a friendly RMB that everyone should feel comfortable with. Please stop saying it.

How is the f-word not friendly? I am not attacking anyone, and if anyone is inconvenienced by my posts then I am sorry. What is so uncomfortable with the f-word? Are we kids? We were born out of the s-word, why this false decency, everyone has s-word. Please don't moral police, this is the internet where people can get almost anything, not Saudi Arabia. Love you all, and SORRY again, my intention was not to cause inconvenience to anyone.

International Union For Peace wrote:That was meant as a sign of rebellion against established social norms, I thought you got that. And this is not even disrespectful to women, girls can use the same attitude to fu*k boys, it is called being cool, and not giving a fu*k. This was not directed against women but against established intitutions of decency and social norms, it's a very popular phrase.

I think you're overstaying your welcome.

Kings Island

Hallo Island wrote:That's not cool. If being cool means using people for sex, I'm pretty lame.

I don't get it, why is everyone supporting you, but I agree to disagree.

I think conservatives and soclibs are equally atrocious. Bush proved that conservatives are every bit of "statist" as soclibs, and I don't support one over another. If a conservative like Rand Paul comes along and i agree with some points, ill vote for him, but this does not mean I am standing with tribe Con. If the Democrats grew a brain and put up a candidate (maybe Jim Webb or something) against a Neocon I similarly make vote Dem but this doesn't mean I endorse"liberals."

Kings Island

International Union For Peace wrote:I don't get it, why is everyone supporting you, but I agree to disagree.

Because he is right. It's bad enough that you thought it was ok to say that, but it was worse to defend it by saying it's cool and trendy to demoralize and subjugate women. It's truly despicable.

Miencraft, Kings Island, The New United States

Miencraft wrote:I think you're overstaying your welcome.

I am new here, but I am not attacking anyone, I was just debating... Hope you people get my point. I didn't came here to pick a fight with anyone. I never knew that putting up a different point would lead to so much ho-ho.

Humpheria wrote:Because he is right. It's bad enough that you thought it was ok to say that, but it was worse to defend it by saying it's cool and trendy to demoralize and subjugate women. It's truly despicable.

I am not demoralizing or subjagating women. Have you read the novel "Brave New World", I was just suggesting a society like that. That comment applies equally to both boys and girls. That attitude that I am right and the next person is surely wrong is not the best you can do.

I mean, I might not be the most moral person, but at least I know how to be decent.

Miencraft, The New United States, Humpheria

International Union For Peace wrote:I am not demoralizing or subjagating women. Have you read the novel "Brave New World", I was just suggesting a society like that. That comment applies equally to both boys and girls. That attitude that I am right and the next person is surely wrong is not the best you can do.

You realize that dystopian fictions aren't to be read like instruction manuals, right?

Miencraft

International Union For Peace wrote:I am not demoralizing or subjagating women. Have you read the novel "Brave New World", I was just suggesting a society like that. That comment applies equally to both boys and girls. That attitude that I am right and the next person is surely wrong is not the best you can do.

*facepalms* Do you really want us to live in a society divided into classes from birth (the lower classes being engineered to be less intelligent), without families, where the people are brainwashed from a young age and lack meaningful thought, while being appeased with bread and circuses?

Miencraft, Rateria

Hallo Island wrote:I mean, I might not be the most moral person, but at least I know how to be decent.

And who are you brother to decide what is decent or what is not? And please don't take my responses in a negative way, I am not attacking you or anyone, I just am here to debate. You can tell me to stop anytime and I would say no more.

Kings Island wrote:*facepalms* Do you really want us to live in a society divided into classes from birth (the lower classes being engineered to be less intelligent), without families, where the people are brainwashed from a young age and lack meaningful thought, while being appeased with bread and circuses?

No I want us to adapt only the sexual part of that dystopia.

International Union For Peace wrote:And who are you brother to decide what is decent or what is not? And please don't take my responses in a negative way, I am not attacking you or anyone, I just am here to debate. You can tell me to stop anytime and I would say no more.

I mean, society kinda just requests you aren't gross and offensive.

Miencraft, International Union For Peace

Hallo Island wrote:You realize that dystopian fictions aren't to be read like instruction manuals, right?

But I liked how they carry their se*ual business. So I want to implement that in the real world.

How would the TABLOID act effect the board's part in the construction of embassies?

International Union For Peace

International Union For Peace wrote:And who are you brother to decide what is decent or what is not? And please don't take my responses in a negative way, I am not attacking you or anyone, I just am here to debate. You can tell me to stop anytime and I would say no more.

You are not here to debate. This is painfully obvious given the things you have said and the ways you have said them.

If you are here to debate, then debate. I don't even have a word that adequately describes what you're doing, but it's not debating.

The New United States

*looks around, confused* What's with all the posts? Did Misley get bored again or something?

Hallo Island

Midland County wrote:How would the TABLOID act effect the board's part in the construction of embassies?

I intended for it to apply to Embassy votes the same as it would to votes on new legislation.

International Union For Peace

Condealism wrote:*looks around, confused* What's with all the posts? Did Misley get bored again or something?

No, this socialist radfem is essentially saying that men can't be raped.

International Union For Peace wrote:And who are you brother to decide what is decent or what is not? And please don't take my responses in a negative way, I am not attacking you or anyone, I just am here to debate. You can tell me to stop anytime and I would say no more.

I don't get offended easily. In real life, I swear like a drunk sailor all day long. However, I know when it's appropriate. When I'm with friends, I can say what I want. With family and people I don't know, or at school, or [B]in a debate[/B], I will be polite and would never say anything as ridiculous as what you said. You know it wasn't a decent thing to say. You know you wouldn't say this if your boss was here so why say it when we're having a debate? Sometimes how you make your point is just as important as the point you're making.

Miencraft, Rateria, International Union For Peace

The New United States wrote:I intended for it to apply to Embassy votes the same as it would to votes on new legislation.

but is it written in?

International Union For Peace

Hallo Island wrote:but is it written in?

A Board vote shall not commence until twenty-four hours after such a vote has been called into motion

Not specifically, but an embassy vote is just as much a "Board vote" as any other.

Miencraft wrote:You are not here to debate. This is painfully obvious given the things you have said and the ways you have said them.

If you are here to debate, then debate. I don't even have a word that adequately describes what you're doing, but it's not debating.

Point out what is wrong, and i will correct it.

Kings Island wrote:No, this socialist radfem is essentially saying that men can't be raped.

What?

IU, if I knew you, I'd be surprised at you. Regardless of your thoughts on 'rape culture', making light of what victims go through (yes, even if they're male - I'd go so far as to say especially) is way out of line.

Miencraft

Wovenland wrote:I don't get offended easily. In real life, I swear like a drunk sailor all day long. However, I know when it's appropriate. When I'm with friends, I can say what I want. With family and people I don't know, or at school, or [B]in a debate[/B], I will be polite and would never say anything as ridiculous as what you said. You know it wasn't a decent thing to say. You know you wouldn't say this if your boss was here so why say it when we're having a debate? Sometimes how you make your point is just as important as the point you're making.

Why this double standards between friends and strangers, keep life simple, life is to short to worry about not offending someone. I consider everyone here as my friend. That is what socialism is everyone is a comrade no discrimination. I consider all of you as my good friends.

Moreover you are not a stranger to me, I know your political affiliations and what you think about society, that is more than enough.

Condealism wrote:What?

IU, if I knew you, I'd be surprised at you. Regardless of your thoughts on 'rape culture', making light of what victims go through (yes, even if they're male - I'd go so far as to say especially) is way out of line.

Is giving a different viewpoint called going out of line?

Okay, bye everyone, will meet you in the morning. Take care.

114 new messages? I must have been at the gym for a long time.

I haven't read every single message and I'm not singling anyone out, but let's try to keep things civil please. I may vehemently disagree with International Union for Peace, but I'm glad that he has come here and ignited our debating skills. An exchange of political views and ideas, when civil and respectful, is always a good thing. Even if no-one is convinced of anything, understanding the motivations of someone else's viewpoint can help us learn how to confront biases and misconceptions in the future.

Miencraft, International Union For Peace

Pevvania wrote:114 new messages? I must have been at the gym for a long time.

I haven't read every single message and I'm not singling anyone out, but let's try to keep things civil please. I may vehemently disagree with International Union for Peace, but I'm glad that he has come here and ignited our debating skills. An exchange of political views and ideas, when civil and respectful, is always a good thing. Even if no-one is convinced of anything, understanding the motivations of someone else's viewpoint can help us learn how to confront biases and misconceptions in the future.

Pev, I know of at least two people in the conversation that participate or have participated in structured debate leagues in real life. That was not a debate.

Miencraft, Pevvania

International Union For Peace wrote:Why this double standards between friends and strangers, keep life simple, life is to short to worry about not offending someone. I consider everyone here as my friend. That is what socialism is everyone is a comrade no discrimination. I consider all of you as my good friends.

Moreover you are not a stranger to me, I know your political affiliations and what you think about society, that is more than enough.

Firstly, I know my friends, I have had the time to assess them and work out for myself that I would like to spend more time with them. Strangers are all potential friends, if the above condition is met they become friends.

Secondly, note how in bold I mentioned that I don't speak this way "in a debate" you were clearly attempting to debate. You were doing a poor job of it but you've said yourself you're here to debate so therefore my point is valid.

Finally, to me, you are still a stranger. I may know your political leanings, I may know the country you live in but I don't know you. You are someone I've conversed with over political issues, at best you're an acquaintance which I would put into the second category where I censor my speech, to an extent. It's fine that you don't mind me speaking without care but that is not who I am in my opinion you cannot say I'm not a stranger to you if you don't even know basic facts about myself such as this.

Miencraft

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