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Miencraft wrote:Hillary Clinton must be stopped at all costs.

I am not giving up the fight by any lawful means necessary, but I am under no illusion that we are living in a good (as in not morally stupid) and virtuous (as in not morally corrupt/criminally insane) country. I once thought that there was some justice and promotion of liberty somewhere in the government, but since 9/11 and the passage of the so-called Patriot Act and the Homeland Security Act what little assurance of freedom we had left was made that much more precarious. The good and virtuous principles for which America once stood that make any nation free and prosperous will endure even as America abandons them. My hope is that the up-coming generation fights tooth and claw for their birthright. What good did it do to fight for the fail of national socialism (nazism) in WWII and international socialism (communism) in the Cold War only to see a more insidious form of socialism (progressivism) take root? I am voting 3rd Party--my state is solid red and will to to Trump--the lesser of two evils imo. If Hilary is elected, I fear our liberty will be irrevocably lost, and the bright side to Trump is he understands that the establishment must be uprooted.

Well, I voted early and noticed something interesting. They had a straight-ticket Libertarian option. I don't recall that being a thing where I live during the 2012 election.

An interesting change, I think. Good perhaps?

Republic Of Minerva, Teuberland

I want to believe the campaign isn't all that bad, but then I saw the trending list show a letter H-Dubya gave to Clinton after the election. Basically, he said the presidency gave him a great sense of wonder, and he felt the same for Bill when he won, and wished him the best. The humility makes me sad, because we don't have it in this election.

Miencraft, New Jaslandia, Molynovia

Narland wrote:My hope is that the up-coming generation fights tooth and claw for their birthright.

We're screwed.

I can only hope that people realize, if things get bad enough, it's our right and our duty to destroy the government and establish the original one in its place.

We're getting closer to that being the only option.

Hi I am kaxukame representing the foreign minister of The Mystical Council kazukame. I have come here to see the partnership we have with your region. I want to know what you feel about our region.

I think the United States has already passed the tipping point.

Miencraft wrote:We're screwed.

I can only hope that people realize, if things get bad enough, it's our right and our duty to destroy the government and establish the original one in its place.

We're getting closer to that being the only option.

Narland wrote:I am not giving up the fight by any lawful means necessary, but I am under no illusion that we are living in a good (as in not morally stupid) and virtuous (as in not morally corrupt/criminally insane) country. I once thought that there was some justice and promotion of liberty somewhere in the government, but since 9/11 and the passage of the so-called Patriot Act and the Homeland Security Act what little assurance of freedom we had left was made that much more precarious. The good and virtuous principles for which America once stood that make any nation free and prosperous will endure even as America abandons them. My hope is that the up-coming generation fights tooth and claw for their birthright. What good did it do to fight for the fail of national socialism (nazism) in WWII and international socialism (communism) in the Cold War only to see a more insidious form of socialism (progressivism) take root? I am voting 3rd Party--my state is solid red and will to to Trump--the lesser of two evils imo. If Hilary is elected, I fear our liberty will be irrevocably lost, and the bright side to Trump is he understands that the establishment must be uprooted.

The Ambassador To The Clfr wrote:I think the United States has already passed the tipping point.

If seems that I'm not the only one who is certain that America is in decline. I personally believe that this country and world will continue to go on that path.

I had a great time in your region. I hope to see you soon.

Narland, New Jaslandia, Kumquat Cove, Rateria

There are times my government really pisses me off. This latest event has set a new high on that scale.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-national-guard-bonus-20161020-snap-story.html

Teuberland

I think that history going to end up how Atlas Shrugged's word ended up. Basically, the world went super progressive and the world nations turned into "People's States" besides the U.S. which is the last somewhat free (more like a left leaning mixed economy, but quickly leaning farther). As the story went on, the economy degrades more and more primarily from further regulation until finally even the U.S. collapses economically (along with the entire globe) due to the world's last functioning company disappearing. The last refuge is a place known as Galt's Gulch, a flourishing capitalist valley.

Essentially, I think history will end up from Corporatist (what Marx calls Capitalism, as we have now), to Socialist and then libertarianism (to what scale, who knows).

P.S. My theory on history is basically Marx's six stages except Communism never follows

Socialism, instead a libertarian society follows.

The Ambassador To The Clfr, Teuberland

The national hero and leader of the Republican movement has been elected.

The UN is really quite awful. They spend more time promoting anti-semitism in the Middle East, globalism and the white gurl feminist agenda than they do actually preventing war, what it was freaking created for. I don't know the exact number, but there have been dozens and dozens of wars that have occurred under the UN's watch since its inception. It either just sits by and pretend it's not happening or it slaps whatever country is allegedly at fault on the wrist. If we're to have a UN at all, then more time should be prevented on spurring free markets and democracy in the Third World and combating radical Islam than churning out another round of counterproductive sanctions on Country A or Country B.

As it stands, the US and UK should withdraw from this corrupt organisation unless it can get it's sh-t together.

Miencraft, Narland, Kumquat Cove, The United States Of Patriots, Shirayuki Mizore

The way things are going right now, I'm convinced the world is being sucked into a chasm of instability and crisis. The 2010s will go down in history as the 1970s 2.0. We've got weak economic recoveries in the west, continued failure of soft-Keynesianism, the collapse of the European Union due to the overwhelming weight of its statism, the rise of ISIS and the emboldenment of Russia, open and abetted corruption in the US government, the office of the presidency and in the State Department that goes ignored, and the repeated failure of our leaders to deal with any of this at any substantial level. Meanwhile, as America clamours for a saviour, we have a false prophet that would reverse what progress has been made in making the world freer and more open, and an openly corrupt and duplicitous career politician whose main argument for being is elected is that "the other one is worse".

Brexit gives me some hope for the future, but in the United States it really is shameful just how much of a failure this President has been. 1.4% GDP growth, a doubled national debt, millions more Americans in poverty and on food stamps, record-low labour participation, a ballooning regulatory state, slick and loose monetary policies that benefit the rich at the expense of everyone else, time-bomb entitlement programs and a disastrous attempt at health care reform that is, as everyone except for its architects predicted, is now collapsing under its own weight. And while countries around the world touched by this administration - Libya, Lebanon, Syria - teeter on the brink, President Obama proclaims victory and reasons that he's made the world a better place. For diplomacy with Iran and Cuba, and maybe even trade, perhaps this is the case. But what we have here is not a resurgent America, but an America in retreat as problems that were previously small and afar from our worries now loom on our doorstep and threaten to drag us into another decade of turmoil.

America needs a revival in the way that it was brought out of the darkness in the 1980s; it needs a leader who will foster and develop free markets, and confront foreign policy issues from a position of strength while ending the dangerous strain of interventionism that has opened the can of worms we are facing now.

Miencraft, Narland, Kumquat Cove, The United States Of Patriots, Shirayuki Mizore

Also, good article on Reagan's free-market environmentalism: http://www.weeklystandard.com/reagan-the-environmentalist/article/733961

Miencraft, Narland, Rateria

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Pevvania wrote:The UN is really quite awful. ...snip... As it stands, the US and UK should withdraw from this corrupt organisation unless it can get it's sh-t together.

It cannot because it was organized to be a bureaucratic morass from the very beginning (another unintentional consequence of statist thinking). My Uncle used to have a bumper sticker on his 64 Rambler station wagon that read "UN = United Nothing" right across from "Get US Out of the UN Now!" The words "UN administration" are synonymous with maladministration, indelible corruption, and tyranny.

Pevvania wrote:The way things are going right now, I'm convinced the world is being sucked into a chasm of instability and crisis. ...snip... America needs a revival in the way that it was brought out of the darkness in the 1980s; it needs a leader who will foster and develop free markets, and confront foreign policy issues from a position of strength while ending the dangerous strain of interventionism that has opened the can of worms we are facing now.

It seems we need more than just a leader--we need to be the leaders that we seek. Insistent self-governance (with non-aggression) makes the external government redundant and unnecessary.

Reclamation--renew the concepts of Liberty

Revival--return to the precepts of Liberty

Reformation--restore the blessings of Liberty

Pevvania wrote:Also, good article on Reagan's free-market environmentalism: http://www.weeklystandard.com/reagan-the-environmentalist/article/733961

The article is quite sparse concerning the disciplined conservationism that Reagan and many of us rural Americans adhere (generally it is what today would be called "free market environmentalism." but I am happy to see at least an acknowledgement by something like the Standard.

Environmentalism (as redefined in the 70s) rejects that man is a part of nature and denies that part of man which is above nature. The incoherence and fallacious conclusions (like all Statist systems) invariably leads to abuse of power and horrific unintended consequences. Then comes the disingenuous scramble to blame everyone and everything else for the failures of their own stinking thinking.

Its use by Social Darwinist in the early 20th century with another meaning was even worse.

The traditional Conservationism of the classical liberal/paleo-conservtive variety that many responsible rural working Americans (with our family run farms, ranches, mines and mills)--at least to which those little of us who are left in much of the Mountain states still adhere, but because of the dumbing-down (read: indoctrination of cultural Marxism to proletariat levels of incompetence) in our school systems it is rapidly decreasing--is conducive to life, liberty, and propriety/property.

Man has a nature, is part of nature, and can (read: must) responsibly tend nature in whatever environs he finds himself. Moreover, if he is negligent as an individual in his rights, duties and responsibilities to his own nature and that of nature that he is a part, he will be negligent and destructive to the rest of nature thus violating directly and indirectly the rights of others of his generation and against the generations those to come. Conservationism in this sense is a much more sane and coherent (read: beneficent) model for liberty and all of nature.

Pevvania

bush did 9/11

Pevvania, Republic Of Minerva, Muh Roads

mistype it should read:

Revival--renew the concepts of Liberty

Reclamation--return to the precepts of Liberty

Reformation--restore the blessings of Liberty

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Coumba wrote:bush did 9/11

If you're serious, let's not start with this nonsense.

If you're not, please don't joke about the horrific murders of almost 3000 innocents.

Or, you know, do, I don't really care what you do, but let's just not go there.

Narland, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

We don't need leaders.

Muh Roads

Republic Of Minerva wrote:We don't need leaders.

I'm keeping this quote forever.

Narland, Republic Of Minerva

Coumba wrote:bush did 9/11

Slurpees can't melt steal beams

I hate what this election cycle has been doing to me.

It sucks feeling isolated from your own country.

Rateria, Teuberland

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Coumba wrote:bush did 9/11

Oh Good Grief...

Wait, crap, is it already time again for Z-Day? It wasn't the April Fools event this year again, was it? Seems like it hasn't been long enough.

Teuberland

Miencraft wrote:Wait, crap, is it already time again for Z-Day? It wasn't the April Fools event this year again, was it? Seems like it hasn't been long enough.

Remember, it happened around this time last year?

Miencraft wrote:Wait, crap, is it already time again for Z-Day? It wasn't the April Fools event this year again, was it? Seems like it hasn't been long enough.

is anyone planing on researching a cure?

New Jaslandia, Rateria, Teuberland

The United States Of Patriots wrote:is anyone planing on researching a cure?

I remember that curing is the standard policy of Libertatem. We cured last year. Hopefully, we can do it again.

New Jaslandia, Kumquat Cove, Teuberland, The United States Of Patriots

Rateria wrote:I remember that curing is the standard policy of Libertatem. We cured last year. Hopefully, we can do it again.

Yea thats what I recall. There was also one nation that joined the zombies and infected others in the region. That nation got banjected because of it. Whether it was temp or perm, I dont know.

Rateria

Rateria wrote:Remember, it happened around this time last year?

Well, yeah, it happens Halloween every year. But sometimes it's also April Fools, and I can't remember if it was the April Fools event this year, or just for the year it launched.

Rateria

The United States Of Patriots wrote:is anyone planing on researching a cure?

I'm probably going to go with cure.

Kumquat Cove, Rateria

The United States Of Patriots wrote:is anyone planing on researching a cure?

I will be.

New Jaslandia, Kumquat Cove, Rateria

Depending on whether or not my region collaborates on a cure effort again, I might send you some reinforcements either before the event or once the IRU is completely uninfected.

The first time around, zombies were fun.

After the third or fourth time they got kind of stale. Dunno if I'll participate, I guess I'll research a cure to keep you guys happy

IRU isn't researching a cure this year. I came to this region so I could research it here. That okay?

New Jaslandia

The States Of Balloon wrote:IRU isn't researching a cure this year. I came to this region so I could research it here. That okay?

Yeah, cool.

New Jaslandia, Kumquat Cove, The United States Of Patriots

Rateria wrote:I remember that curing is the standard policy of Libertatem. We cured last year. Hopefully, we can do it again.

Nuke 'em all, let God sort 'em out.

The Ambassador To The Clfr wrote:Nuke 'em all, let God sort 'em out.

We are launching cure missiles. That might count as "nuking them".

New Jaslandia

The Ambassador To The Clfr wrote:Nuke 'em all, let God sort 'em out.

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/614/225/273.jpg

Pevvania, New Jaslandia, Rateria

Miencraft wrote:http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/614/225/273.jpg

https://img.ifcdn.com/images/9e866b319d1d21c54eeab7aa4fad88ac34bb6affdf21bea9a949f45588df713b_1.jpg

Miencraft, Republic Of Minerva, Rateria

The zombie apocalypse is almost upon us.

Rateria wrote:The zombie apocalypse is almost upon us.

https://media.giphy.com/media/rl0FOxdz7CcxO/giphy.gif

Rateria, Teuberland

I have my alarm set for 4 minutes prior. I'd do the same. If we move quick, we can eliminate the plague before it even begins!

Rateria

Miencraft wrote:Well, yeah, it happens Halloween every year. But sometimes it's also April Fools, and I can't remember if it was the April Fools event this year, or just for the year it launched.

Nah, last years April fools was the WA Secretary General election.

Teuberland

Teuberland wrote:I have my alarm set for 4 minutes prior. I'd do the same. If we move quick, we can eliminate the plague before it even begins!

Personally, I'm just gonna be on whenever.

http://i1.pixiv.net/c/1200x1200/img-master/img/2016/07/11/14/42/14/57854056_p7_master1200.jpg

He's a spaceman.

The States Of Balloon wrote:http://i1.pixiv.net/c/1200x1200/img-master/img/2016/07/11/14/42/14/57854056_p7_master1200.jpg

He's a spaceman.

He's an error 403.

Rateria, The States Of Balloon, Teuberland

30 SECONDS UNTIL APOCALYPSE!!

Rateria

It begins.

Rateria, Teuberland

Do NOT exterminate your citizens. We should try to get a clean run of this!

Rateria, The States Of Balloon, The United States Of Patriots

Welp three regions are already zombie free...

Hey, somebody close the border!

Teuberland wrote:Hey, somebody close the border!

There you go. Good luck with the cure effort.

Teuberland

Some encouraging news in the event of a Clinton victory: http://www.wsj.com/articles/americas-first-rigged-presidential-election-1477664458

As the days tick on, with polls taken before the FBI's announcement showing a tightening race, it looks very unlikely that the election will result in a landslide Clinton win. The result will be relatively close, whoever the victor. And if it's Clinton, she'll suffer significantly from the Trump campaign's claims that the election is rigged. Overall she's never been well-liked by the public anyway, and if she wins it'll likely be by less than 50% of the vote. Her election would lack any credible mandate.

My point is that she'll have serious trouble governing even if she wins, and since the GOP are likely to hold onto the House (the Senate could go either way, but whoever wins it won't have a strong majority) they would be empowered to block her agenda. And not block in the way they've rightfully done to Obama, which only really occurred after he was swept in with big majorities in Congress and then subsequent defeat in a series of midterm elections, but based on a much stronger position. Clinton's economic policies are patently unworkable and ridiculous. In fact, she's all but admitted as such in relatively recent Wall Street speeches that endorsed entitlement reform and austerity. So they have no chance of passing a Republican House anyway, and a slim victory in the presidential race would crush her hopes of passing anything that Sanders could be proud of. If Congress were open to letting her get anything done at all, working with the GOP would be a necessity.

Essentially what I'm saying is that Hillary would have an uphill battle as president and would need to either govern from the center or not at all. Either way, a major screw-up in Middle East and the next recession which we're overdue on are likely to occur in the next four years, so she'd probably be a one-term president anyway.

Trump would have an easier job in office, since much of what he's advocating is centred around using executive authority derived from existing laws on immigration, trade and foreign policy. He could make major strides in his agenda without even having Congress in session. Clinton cannot claim the same thing, since the economic plan she borrowed from the Sandernistas cannot even pass into law without near-consensus in Congress.

Miencraft, Kumquat Cove

If Hillary wins, an impeachment may not be out of the question. I suspect that there are more emails and other things to come. In the words of the Trumpies ( trump supporters)

Lock her up, lock her up

Pevvania

God this guy is embarrassing. https://youtu.be/vvULsrjLdI4

Well, I'm done curing for tonight. I'll be continuing tomorrow.

Kumquat Cove wrote:If Hillary wins, an impeachment may not be out of the question. I suspect that there are more emails and other things to come. In the words of the Trumpies ( trump supporters)

Lock her up, lock her up

I believe the proper term is "Trumpets".

Kumquat Cove

I would very much appreciate a cure missile!

Rateria, Teuberland

Zombies... Again... What a pain in the tail.

Kumquat Cove wrote:If Hillary wins, an impeachment may not be out of the question. I suspect that there are more emails and other things to come. In the words of the Trumpies ( trump supporters)

Lock her up, lock her up

Not going to happen. What Justice does at this point is irrelevant. Even if the honorless candidate is indicted, it is too little too late. Shortly after the election, Obama is going to hand her a blanket pardon while using words to the extent of "The leader of the free world needs to be free to lead without the distraction of partisan politics" or some variation of that theme if she loses.

Kumquat Cove

Focus on Meincraft right now. We need to cure one nation at a time to create more secure points in the region. The more secure nations, the more that can hit infected nations.

Teuberland wrote:Focus on Meincraft right now. We need to cure one nation at a time to create more secure points in the region. The more secure nations, the more that can hit infected nations.

has he CTE'd?

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The United States Of Patriots wrote:has he CTE'd?

No wait this one!

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=miencraft

Miencraft, Kumquat Cove

The United States Of Patriots wrote:has he CTE'd?

I did once, but this isn't that time.

I really need help! I have roughly 43 million survivors left. I'll be gone soon if you don't do something!

The United States Of Patriots

Rateria wrote:I really need help! I have roughly 43 million survivors left. I'll be gone soon if you don't do something!

I've never been to your nation page before. Is your flag seriously a screenshot from Roblox?

Miencraft wrote:I've never been to your nation page before. Is your flag seriously a screenshot from Roblox?

That is correct, but I'm changing it soon. I have an idea for a flag, and I will use what you taught me to make it.

I would also like to thank you and everyone else that is helping me.

Kumquat Cove

That said, I'd love it if we can get my infected down to 0 with minimal deaths. I think I managed to get no infected and no deaths last year, but since I've already got a million deaths now I just want to make sure the gray part isn't visible this time.

Teuberland

CURE MISSILES ARE READY

Rateria

who do i need to shoot?

The Aradites wrote:who do i need to shoot?

There are a lot of people to shoot. I suggest aiming at some of the more active nations, then move on to less active ones.

Rateria wrote:There are a lot of people to shoot. I suggest aiming at some of the more active nations, then move on to less active ones.

My bad. That came out weird.

Miencraft wrote:That said, I'd love it if we can get my infected down to 0 with minimal deaths. I think I managed to get no infected and no deaths last year, but since I've already got a million deaths now I just want to make sure the gray part isn't visible this time.

Lol nice try. At least it's over...mostly...

Teuberland wrote:Lol nice try. At least it's over...mostly...

Hey, my own infected are at 0 with only a million deaths. That's pretty good.

Miencraft wrote:Hey, my own infected are at 0 with only a million deaths. That's pretty good.

Well done.

I also managed to cure more zombies than I can count. Thanks everyone, for helping in this cure effort.

Kumquat Cove, The United States Of Patriots

Didn't go that poorly, all things considered.

Kumquat Cove, Rateria, Teuberland

Shirayuki Mizore wrote:Didn't go that poorly, all things considered.

I agree. I really thought that those who participated did really well.

The Ambassador To The Clfr, Kumquat Cove, The United States Of Patriots

How dare my people let my people die :p

Miencraft, Narland, The Ambassador To The Clfr, Rateria

Muh Roads wrote:How dare my people let my people die :p

those monsters

Kumquat Cove, Rateria

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Kumquat Cove, Rateria, Teuberland, The United States Of Patriots

News: (1)

Unsurprisingly, Max Barry is attempting to rally his huge website of American progressive shills in order to influence the election towards Hillary.

Miencraft

Republic Of Minerva wrote:News: (1)

Unsurprisingly, Max Barry is attempting to rally his huge website of American progressive shills in order to influence the election towards Hillary.

I'd say this site is mainly liberal, but there are pleeeenty of conservatives to offset that. The only thing that particularly comes across as biased is the single-issue crazy voter claim. Yeah they exist, but I don't think they were that big in the first place.

Republic Of Minerva

My best advice for anyone who who is skeptical of Gary enough to vote for either Trump or Clinton is just don't. Don't regret your vote 4 years later, come out of this election with your dignity intact instead. That is way more important than "stopping" Clinton or Trump.

Rateria

Vote Gary, Hail Roads!

Muh Roads, Rateria

Republic Of Minerva wrote:News: (1)

Unsurprisingly, Max Barry is attempting to rally his huge website of American progressive shills in order to influence the election towards Hillary.

That explains a lot of the effects of issues on our nations.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Vote Gary, Hail Roads!

Hillary appreciates your support.

Please vote your conscience always, but consider that Trump's list for Supreme court is approved by the Cato Institute save one. This is a strong reason if you cannot vote for Johnson and are thinking of not voting.

Narland wrote:Please vote your conscience always, but consider that Trump's list for Supreme court is approved by the Cato Institute save one. This is a strong reason if you cannot vote for Johnson and are thinking of not voting.

Gary Johnson's Scotus picks wipe the floor compared to Trumps.

I guess the only reason to elect Trump is to give the establishment a big F-U and make sure the government is entirely cock-blocked for the next four years. Personally I am more interested in trying to at least help the LP get the magical 5% and not to have any blood on my hands if Trump does anything stupid, but that is a convincing argument. On the other hand I would very much not want, when whittled down, a very protectionist president as that seems to be the primary outcome.

The Ambassador To The Clfr wrote:That explains a lot of the effects of issues on our nations.

Hillary appreciates your support.

Hillary is going to win Michigan anyway. I might as well vote my conscience ,unless it somehow the polls seem to suggest Trump winning or almost winning Michigan.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Gary Johnson's Scotus picks wipe the floor compared to Trumps.

Too bad he stands zero chance of winning.

If Trump gets anywhere close to winning Michigan then i will vote for Clinton

The Ambassador To The Clfr wrote:Too bad he stands zero chance of winning.

It's almost as if the system was designed that way...

But of course you don't get to complain when Trump or Clinton start doing the exact opposite of what you'd wish them to do in office. Only the people who voted third party get to complain.

The Ambassador To The Clfr wrote:Hillary appreciates your support.

That really doesn't apply all that well if you were never going to vote major-party to begin with.

No matter what, this race is going to be super-close anyways. Trump just needs to pull through to seem tolerable enough for the five seconds he needs to win.

Gary just needs that 5% and we're all set.

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