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Albenia wrote:EU is a bureaucratic nightmare. Not EU4.

Regardless of participation in the EU, Ukraine would have much more to gain by strengthening ties with the US and with EU member-nations.

Albenia wrote:EU4 is a bureaucratic nightmare I wish would burn

Oh gays can't marry. Such oppression.

In all honesty it's more of a free country then western media makes it out to be. My friend on this game lived in Russia and it's not sounding to restricting.

Gays not be able to marry is a sign of too much government control. Deciding one's personal life is not the responsibility of the government, that's too much control.

The New United States wrote:Regardless of participation in the EU, Ukraine would have much more to gain by strengthening ties with the US and with EU member-nations.
Not with an 18 trillion dollar debt lingering over America's head

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Not with an 18 trillion dollar debt lingering over America's head

Still a better option than russia though

As much as I hate to admit it, Crimea is better off Russian. Crimea was always a part of Russia until Stalin "gave" it to Ukraine in 1954. Crimeans were pretty pissed to become a part of Ukraine following the break-up of the USSR, as they'd always felt that they were Russian. There have been ethnic tensions for years, but these hit a breaking point in the crisis. The post-coup Ukraine government's first act was to downgrade Russian from a main to a minority language, so this sparked fears of ethnic cleansing. This, on top of fascist killings of ethnic Russians, made them fear for their safety. Putin's an asshole, but he's completely justified in taking Crimea. It's just downright silly for people to be comparing this to the Cold War, or drumming up fears of 'East vs. West'.

Pevvania wrote:As much as I hate to admit it, Crimea is better off Russian. Crimea was always a part of Russia until Stalin "gave" it to Ukraine in 1954. Crimeans were pretty pissed to become a part of Ukraine following the break-up of the USSR, as they'd always felt that they were Russian. There have been ethnic tensions for years, but these hit a breaking point in the crisis. The post-coup Ukraine government's first act was to downgrade Russian from a main to a minority language, so this sparked fears of ethnic cleansing. This, on top of fascist killings of ethnic Russians, made them fear for their safety. Putin's an asshole, but he's completely justified in taking Crimea. It's just downright silly for people to be comparing this to the Cold War, or drumming up fears of 'East vs. West'.

In that case, you are probably right, but to suggest that all of eastern europe be taken over by russia is something I don't stand for

Right-Winged Nation wrote:In that case, you are probably right, but to suggest that all of eastern europe be taken over by russia is something I don't stand for

Of course, that would be a disaster. But I don't think that's Putin's goal, at least not militarily. If he wanted Ukraine, he would've taken it already. And if the West were serious about containing Russia, they'd go full speed ahead with exploring domestic energy reserves and deregulating the energy industry. Europe and many other parts of the world rely on Russian gas and oil. The best way to weaken Putin would be to build the Keystone XL.

In fact, the West's response to the Ukraine Crisis has been extremely foolish whichever way you look at it. In response to Obama's rhetoric and sanctions (America cancelled Putin's Netflix account!!!! OBAMA WANTS WAR!!!) Russia and China have moved away from the US Dollar as their reserve currency. And this is a big f**king deal.

Pevvania wrote:Of course, that would be a disaster. But I don't think that's Putin's goal, at least not militarily. If he wanted Ukraine, he would've taken it already. And if the West were serious about containing Russia, they'd go full speed ahead with exploring domestic energy reserves and deregulating the energy industry. Europe and many other parts of the world rely on Russian gas and oil. The best way to weaken Putin would be to build the Keystone XL.

We had the opportunity, but somehow it didn't fall through(our wonderful president handled it beautifully). I say this with extreme sarcasm, the keystone pipeline should have built it

Give Crimea independence! lol

Pevvania wrote:In fact, the West's response to the Ukraine Crisis has been extremely foolish whichever way you look at it. In response to Obama's rhetoric and sanctions (America cancelled Putin's Netflix account!!!! OBAMA WANTS WAR!!!) Russia and China have moved away from the US Dollar as their reserve currency. And this is a big f**king deal.

Amen to that

Muh Roads wrote:Give Crimea independence! lol

As much as I don't like russia, pev has a point

Like I said. East Ukraine should go to Russia.

Where's communal, he should have something to say about this

Ankha wrote:Lol yes ^

I mean, he should be telling us how wonderful russia is right about now

Albenia wrote:Like I said. East Ukraine should go to Russia.

Any part of Ukraine (or any person in it, for that matter) has the right/power to secede for any reason. But I don't think this would be a good idea.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Where's communal, he should have something to say about this

I feel as if I'm missing out on debating him, unfortunately, as we seem to live in the opposite time zones.

Yep, and how Putin was the embodiment of Libertarianism and let people unlock their true potential.

This time, I am convinced he has Brain Damage...

Is it a coincidence that China and Russia's economies are growing stronger by the year as they become more economically free, while the US is declining under the weight of heavy taxes, spending and regulations? If the corporate oligarchs of the United States want to keep their global hegemony, they'll have to seriously reevaluate American foreign and economic policy.

Ankha wrote:Yep, and how Putin was the embodiment of Libertarianism and let people unlock their true potential.

This time, I am convinced he has Brain Damage...

He's the lunatic on the grass

Pevvania wrote:Is it a coincidence that China and Russia's economies are growing stronger by the year as they become more economically free, while the US is declining under the weight of heavy taxes, spending and regulations? If the corporate oligarchs of the United States want to keep their global hegemony, they'll have to seriously reevaluate American foreign and economic policy.

Communal would argue that and tell me why communism is a wonderful. By the way not a coincidence, although Chinese and Russian government control what there citizens see and hear

Right-Winged Nation wrote:He's the lunatic on the grass

Yup. But he's still OnThe Run from the truth. He has High Hopes for his delusional ideological plan, which fails, but all he does is Keep Talking

SCORE

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Communal would argue that and tell me why communism is a wonderful. By the way not a coincidence, although Chinese and Russian government control what there citizens see and hear

Wow the errors in that statement

Ankha wrote:Yup. But he's still OnThe Run from the truth. He has High Hopes for his delusional ideological plan, which fails, but all he does is Keep Talking

SCORE

He thinks we need education on communism and forced control, but all in all it's just another brick in the wall

But One of these days He might realize all the Sorrow Communism inflicts. And perhaps even the Sheep in UCR will also realize, at least One of a Few of them. And at the end, it will just be Us and Them and when their eyes are opened all the commies will be Running like Hell

Wow, Im working for these...

Ankha wrote:But One of these days He might realize all the Sorrow Communism inflicts. And perhaps even the Sheep in UCR will also realize, at least One of a Few of them. And at the end, it will just be Us and Them and when their eyes are opened all the commies will be Running like Hell

Wow, Im working for these...

Impressive. Let's see here, ah I have it now. He is under the impression that capitalism is on the turning away, but he is blind. For capitalism symbolizes competition and true fairness. I know he wishes he could be in the USSR to have a cigar, but capitalism continues to shine. Shine on you crazy diamond.

Allocating Precise Powers Enabling Appeals to Litigation Act

Section I

Subsection I

Outlining the purpose of this Act

Subsection II

To create an avenue of appeal for convicted felons

Section II

Defining conviction

Subsection I

A convicted felon is hereby defined as an individual nation that has lost a court case, without mistrial, according to the COURT act

Subsection II

A convicted felon may also be defined by an individual who has lost a case prior to the COURT act

Section III

Creating an appeal process for a criminal pardon

Subsection I

The incumbent Attorney General is to create an application for appeal

Subsection II

The convicted felon is to fill out the application for appeal and send a copy to the incumbent Attorney General and the President

Subsection III

The Attorney General will then review the application and arrange a trial within 7 days proceeding the date of the application recieved

Section IV

Approving or denying appeals

Subsection I

After the trial has been arranged by the attorney general, the court case will proceed according to the COURT act sections II, III, and IV

Subsection II

If the convicted criminal is deemed not guilty all charges pending and settled are to be dropped

Section V

Presidential Pardon

Subsection I

Providing that the President finds the convicted felon innocent, the incumbent president may give a presidential pardon to the convicted felon

Subsection II

The Presidential Pardon will deem the convicted felon not guilty and all charges pending and settled are to be dropped

Subsection III

If the board or the house deems the presidential pardon unsatisfactory they may vote to lift the pardon

Subsection IV

The board or the house can only lift a presidential pardon within 3 days proceeding the pardon

Section VI

Removing Conviction

Subsection

The Manager of Internal Affairs is to make a note of pardon on the public record of all trials, crimes and convicted offenders that the convicted felon was

deemed not guilty or pardoned, but not remove any information pertaining to the trials, crimes, or the convicted offenders.

Authored by Pevvania & Muh Roads

Thoughts? Suggestions?

Muh Roads wrote:Allocating Precise Powers Enabling Appeals to Litigation Act

Section I

Subsection I

Outlining the purpose of this Act

Subsection II

To create an avenue of appeal for convicted felons

Section II

Defining conviction

Subsection I

A convicted felon is hereby defined as an individual nation that has lost a court case, without mistrial, according to the COURT act

Subsection II

A convicted felon may also be defined by an individual who has lost a case prior to the COURT act

Section III

Creating an appeal process for a criminal pardon

Subsection I

The incumbent Attorney General is to create an application for appeal

Subsection II

The convicted felon is to fill out the application for appeal and send a copy to the incumbent Attorney General and the President

Subsection III

The Attorney General will then review the application and arrange a trial within 7 days proceeding the date of the application recieved

Section IV

Approving or denying appeals

Subsection I

After the trial has been arranged by the attorney general, the court case will proceed according to the COURT act sections II, III, and IV

Subsection II

If the convicted criminal is deemed not guilty all charges pending and settled are to be dropped

Section V

Presidential Pardon

Subsection I

Providing that the President finds the convicted felon innocent, the incumbent president may give a presidential pardon to the convicted felon

Subsection II

The Presidential Pardon will deem the convicted felon not guilty and all charges pending and settled are to be dropped

Subsection III

If the board or the house deems the presidential pardon unsatisfactory they may vote to lift the pardon

Subsection IV

The board or the house can only lift a presidential pardon within 3 days proceeding the pardon

Section VI

Removing Conviction

Subsection

The Manager of Internal Affairs is to make a note of pardon on the public record of all trials, crimes and convicted offenders that the convicted felon was

deemed not guilty or pardoned, but not remove any information pertaining to the trials, crimes, or the convicted offenders.

Authored by Pevvania & Muh Roads

Thoughts? Suggestions?

Seems fair and balanced

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Impressive. Let's see here, ah I have it now. He is under the impression that capitalism is on the turning away, but he is blind. For capitalism symbolizes competition and true fairness. I know he wishes he could be in the USSR to have a cigar, but capitalism continues to shine. Shine on you crazy diamond.

He will just Keep Talking and then when he's Lost For Words He'll wish he could Take it back....But, it really is A Great Day For Freedom.

It's wonderful and completely fair.

Just like Communism ^ LOL

Ankha wrote:He will just Keep Talking and then when he's Lost For Words He'll wish he could Take it back....But, it really is A Great Day For Freedom.

He was brainwashed perhaps by his mother. He helped them bury the lies, but he will end up betrayed, naked and afraid (hey you lyrics)

Ankha wrote:Just like Communism ^ LOL

ha

Ankha wrote:Just like Communism ^ LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc

Right-Winged Nation wrote:He was brainwashed perhaps by his mother. He helped them bury the lies, but he will end up betrayed, naked and afraid (hey you lyrics)

I caught that. You can paint the truth Any Colour You Like but it will keep turning up, Round and Around. He's just On The Run from it. It's time he learns.

Ankha wrote:Just like Communism ^ LOL

.... It's completely equal.

Not wonderful or fair.

Ankha wrote:I caught that. You can paint the truth Any Colour You Like but it will keep turning up, Round and Around. He's just On The Run from it. It's time he learns.

Once he learns, he can then learn to be comfortably numb. It will take time to fix his brain damage

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Once he learns, he can then learn to be comfortably numb. It will take time to fix his brain damage

You used that whole string this morning.

Looks good to me, Roads, but don't forget to mention the creation of the Court of Appeal.

Pevvania wrote:Looks good to me, Roads, but don't forget to mention the creation of the Court of Appeal.

This is what you want?

Allocating Precise Powers Enabling Appeals to Litigation Act

Section I

Subsection I

Outlining the purpose of this Act

Subsection II

To create an avenue of appeal for convicted felons

Subsection III

Creates the court of appeals

Section II

Defining conviction

Subsection I

A convicted felon is hereby defined as an individual nation that has lost a court case, without mistrial, according to the COURT act

Subsection II

A convicted felon may also be defined by an individual nation who has lost a case prior to the COURT act

Section III

Creating an appeal process for a criminal pardon

Subsection I

The incumbent Attorney General is to create an application for appeal

Subsection II

The convicted felon is to fill out the application for appeal and send a copy to the incumbent Attorney General and the President

Subsection III

The Attorney General will then review the application and arrange a trial within 7 days proceeding the date of the application recieved

Section IV

Approving or denying appeals

Subsection I

After the trial has been arranged by the attorney general, the court case will proceed according to the COURT act sections II, III, and IV

Subsection II

If the convicted criminal is deemed not guilty all charges pending and settled are to be dropped

Section V

Presidential Pardon

Subsection I

Providing that the President finds the convicted felon innocent, the incumbent president may give a presidential pardon to the convicted felon

Subsection II

The Presidential Pardon will deem the convicted felon not guilty and all charges pending and settled are to be dropped

Subsection III

If the board or the house deems the presidential pardon unsatisfactory they may vote to lift the pardon

Subsection IV

The board or the house can only lift a presidential pardon within 3 days proceeding the pardon

Section VI

Removing Conviction

Subsection

The Manager of Internal Affairs is to make a note of pardon on the public record of all trials, crimes and convicted offenders that the convicted felon was

deemed not guilty or pardoned, but not remove any information pertaining to the trials, crimes, or the convicted offenders

Question for y'all.

If you were President with control of Congress and could pass 3 major policies each for economic, foreign and domestic policies (9 altogether), what would they be?

Post self-deleted by Ankha.

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-Abolish Obamacare

-Abolish The IRS

-Severely cut the military

Pevvania wrote:Question for y'all.

If you were President with control of Congress and could pass 3 major policies each for economic, foreign and domestic policies (9 altogether), what would they be?

- Cut Military

- Abolish IRS

- Abolish Obama Care

- End trade barriers with Cuba

- Leave NATO

- Increase relations with Russia

- Legalize Marijuana

- Initiate the Blakenomics Gun Control Plan

- Legalize Gay Marriage

Or I would fix the 5 percent vote rule made by the Electoral commission

Republic Of Minerva wrote:-Abolish Obamacare

-Abolish The IRS

-Severely cut the military

Yes Yes Yes Yes *chanting*

The IRS is outrageously misused.

Looks good, Roads.

Albenia wrote:- Cut Military

- Abolish IRS

- Abolish Obama Care

- End trade barriers with Cuba

- Leave NATO

- Increase relations with Russia

- Legalize Marijuana

- Initiate the Blakenomics Gun Control Plan

- Legalize Gay Marriage

-Gut spending in all areas

-Abolish the corporate and payroll taxes

-Abolish federal regulation

-End the Drug War

-Police reform, Second Amendment strengthenings

-Healthcare reform

-End the War on Terror and withdraw from a bunch of foreign bases

-Resume the Strategic Defense Initiative

-End foreign aid

Post self-deleted by Ankha.

Mind Strangling Question: Should nudism be legal in all public areas?

Humpheria wrote:Mind Strangling Question: Should nudism be legal in all public areas?

No

Humpheria wrote:Defend

It's retarded. How do I defend? Let me think

It exposes children to things that their parents wouldn't want them exposed to.

But is it not someone's right to live in happiness without the oppression of leg prisons?

Albenia wrote:It exposes children to things that their parents wouldn't want them exposed to.

But if exposed at an early age, it becomes societal norm.

Muh Roads wrote:But if exposed at an early age, it becomes societal norm.

It shouldn't be.

Humpheria wrote:But is it not someone's right to live in happiness without the oppression of leg prisons?

Is it not my right to live in happiness by not seeing some guys dong?

It is common practice to assume that rights are used in form of "right to" not "right from".

Humpheria wrote:Mind Strangling Question: Should nudism be legal in all public areas?

No. It's gross. The last thing I want to see when I walk out of my house is a nude fat guy lumbering around the neighborhood.

By the way Pev, I've got another suggestion for the 'Tatem Radio.

Since the bird is no longer the word: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDrze-T4A1Y

Lul.

The Neo-Confederate States Of America wrote:No. It's gross. The last thing I want to see when I walk out of my house is a nude fat guy lumbering around the neighborhood.

Who are you to say that he can't?

Humpheria wrote:Who are you to say that he can't?

Who is he to force me to watch it so I can walk outside and gey my newspaper?

In a free society we wouldn't have these problems.

Humpheria wrote:Mind Strangling Question: Should nudism be legal in all public areas?

Yeah.

I don't want to see some guy's dick when I go outside, but at the same time I don't care if he's got it showing, since I won't be looking at it anyways.

Unrelated, I made Miencraft a formable nation in EU4.

Next up, Humpy or something.

Albenia wrote:Who is he to force me to watch it so I can walk outside and gey my newspaper?

Miencraft wrote:Yeah.

I don't want to see some guy's dick when I go outside, but at the same time I don't care if he's got it showing, since I won't be looking at it anyways.

And I assume no one would have a problem if it was female nudity, no? Hahaha.

I have no opinion, really. I was just going to argue whatever the other guy wasn't.

Muh Roads wrote:And I assume no one would have a problem if it was female nudity, no? Hahaha.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmhm

Muh Roads wrote:And I assume no one would have a problem if it was female nudity, no? Hahaha.

True. Unless the female is fat, then I would.

Miencraft wrote:Yeah.

I don't want to see some guy's dick when I go outside, but at the same time I don't care if he's got it showing, since I won't be looking at it anyways.

Unrelated, I made Miencraft a formable nation in EU4.

Next up, Humpy or something.

How do you do that?

My eyes wander when the chance is given. My eyes will go for it against my will.

Muh Roads wrote:And I assume no one would have a problem if it was female nudity, no? Hahaha.

I'd hate it just the same.

I like both men and women parts. BUT NOT IN PUBLIC against my will.

Albenia wrote:How do you do that?

My eyes wander when the chance is given. My eyes will go for it against my will.

Self control

Muh Roads wrote:Self control

...That's a thing I need more of indeed.

Albenia wrote:How do you do that?

It's pretty complicated.

Spent a couple of hours just getting the "Form Miencraftic Empire" decision to show up properly, then another couple of hours making sure it formed correctly.

But at the same time it's pretty simple if you can find a guide for it.

I bet you can do something similar with Victoria 2. Not sure exactly how that game works, but it's Paradox, so it's probably very similar.

Miencraft wrote:It's pretty complicated.

Spent a couple of hours just getting the "Form Miencraftic Empire" decision to show up properly, then another couple of hours making sure it formed correctly.

But at the same time it's pretty simple if you can find a guide for it.

I bet you can do something similar with Victoria 2. Not sure exactly how that game works, but it's Paradox, so it's probably very similar.

I have HoI3

V2 and EU4

I'll try to put Libertatem and Time Alliance in the game.

I've got that Summertime Sadness

Albenia wrote:I have HoI3

V2 and EU4

I'll try to put Libertatem and Time Alliance in the game.

Here's a guide on Steam.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=255079562

Should work.

Muh Roads wrote:And I assume no one would have a problem if it was female nudity, no? Hahaha.

Not really, but Im already taken. :P

Albenia wrote:I'd hate it just the same.

I like both men and women parts. BUT NOT IN PUBLIC against my will.

No offense here, but 3/3 commies I know well + you all do! WOW!

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:I've got that Summertime Sadness

??

Miencraft wrote:Here's a guide on Steam.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=255079562

Should work.

Thanks.

Ankha wrote:Not really, but Im already taken. :PNo offense here, but 3/3 commies I know well + you all do! WOW!??

What?

Albenia wrote:Thanks. What?

The three communists I know well AND possibly you, are all bi. Interesting coincidence, whether you are or not.

Ankha wrote:The three communists I know well AND possibly you, are all bi. Interesting coincidence, whether you are or not.

I'm bi. I am completely bi.

Ok. I just find this interesting......

Ankha wrote:Ok. I just find this interesting......

Why?

I am also of that sexuality. Weird coincidence.

Communal Militia wrote:I am also of that sexuality. Weird coincidence.

So.....

Where do you live? ;)

I live in Communal Earth. Its about 300 billion light years away from this earth. Its like earth but its communal.

Communal Militia wrote:I am also of that sexuality. Weird coincidence.

You were one of the three. No offense. You, TTA, you know one of the others, and then one you dont. So 4/4 communist people I have known well enough to of found out their sexual orientation are bi. Huh.

Ankha wrote:You were one of the three. No offense. You, TTA, you know one of the others, and then one you dont. So 4/4 communist people I have known well enough to of found out their sexual orientation are bi. Huh.

I'm not Communist.

Oh. I thought you were........

Ankha wrote:Oh. I thought you were........

No.

I'm the Centrist Bisexual Transhumanist Mormon. *Nods*

Communal Militia wrote:I live in Communal Earth. Its about 300 billion light years away from this earth. Its like earth but its communal.

So much for my plan.

Albenia wrote:No.

I'm the Centrist Bisexual Transhumanist Mormon. *Nods*

Nice. Oh, by the way,, the sounds?

Albenia wrote:So much for my plan.

Uhoh.

Ankha wrote:Nice. Oh, by the way,, the sounds?Uhoh.

The sounds?

The judgement day coming forth to kil us all.

Ankha wrote:The judgement day coming forth to kil us all.

I don't know.

Ankha wrote:Oh.

Yeah. I don't know so I'm gonna push it to the side.

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