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Region: Libertatem

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Godisdead wrote:Wait, what are you in?

Well today I believe he is in Muh Roads.

Whoop there it is.

Baphometus wrote:Watch your step, sweetie.

Sweetie?

Baphometus wrote:Well today I believe Muh Roads is in him*

Whoop there it is.

I've been slaving all day so I could buy all this whipped cream.

Muh Roads wrote:

This looks like a good reason to start a CFN style rmb hall of fame.

Godisdead wrote:This looks like a good reason to start a CFN style rmb hall of fame.

...Hang on now.

I'm all for change but not stealing traditional stuff from my other region.

Godisdead wrote:This looks like a good reason to start a CFN style rmb hall of fame.

Free region, start it. :p

Godisdead wrote:This looks like a good reason to start a CFN style rmb hall of fame.

The reason to start an RMB Hall of Fame was some post 1 year 280-some days ago.

Specifically,

"A guy walks into a bar and orders an ice pack." ~Mien 2012

...Okay. Changing gears to stop change now.

Albenia wrote:...Okay. Changing gears to stop change now.

It's Lunchtime in Libertatem!

Choices: CAPITALIST GRUEL

TOPIC: MUH ROADS AND HUMPHERIA LOVE SESSIONS

Godisdead wrote:This looks like a good reason to start a CFN style rmb hall of fame.

Don't forget the first documented use of the term "RLP tyranny"

I like to observe my younger political years here with a pitiful eye, on occasion. I do like to give my self a certain amount if credit for radically changing modern politics here.

I like to look back at the fact that I never actually introduced myself.

I just came in and jumped into whatever discussion was going on at the time, which apparently was about Israel.

Muh Roads wrote:It's Lunchtime in Libertatem!

Choices: CAPITALIST GRUEL

TOPIC: MUH ROADS AND HUMPHERIA LOVE SESSIONS

"Wait, What are you in?"

"Well, I believe today he is in Muh roads/ Muh Roads is in him"

Still takes the cake.

Godisdead wrote:"Wait, What are you in?"

"Well, I believe today he is in Muh roads/ Muh Roads is in him"

Still takes the cake.

Region wide arguments about who is on top ensue.

Muh Roads wrote:It's Lunchtime in Libertatem!

Choices: CAPITALIST GRUEL

TOPIC: MUH ROADS AND HUMPHERIA LOVE SESSIONS

What happens behind closed doors stay there.

Baphometus wrote:Don't forget the first documented use of the term "RLP tyranny"

I like to observe my younger political years here with a pitiful eye, on occasion. I do like to give my self a certain amount if credit for radically changing modern politics here.

I changed it more. Ha.

Miencraft wrote:I like to look back at the fact that I never actually introduced myself.

I just came in and jumped into whatever discussion was going on at the time, which apparently was about Israel.

You introduced yourself like three months ago.

Humpheria wrote:You introduced yourself like three months ago.

Well, yeah, but that was a joke about how I hadn't done so before then.

Muh Roads wrote:It's Lunchtime in Libertatem!

Choices: CAPITALIST GRUEL

TOPIC: MUH ROADS AND HUMPHERIA LOVE SESSIONS

Okay Tradition Time time.

Nope sorry. Not Traditional of this region.

My First Post Here: You guys are my favorite people ever. I have not found such a loving place anywhere.

Muh's (came here two days after me): I suppose i should have posted the other day. Thank you for inviting me to this region, i think i'll like it here.

Hey Mien, remember when you were in the Anarcho-Capitalist party?

Oh, Jesus. Here's Pev's:

Reagan was a god. And despite the lies spread by liberals, the military build-up did not cause the tripling of the national debt. It was the Democrats' refusal to pass the balanced budget constitutional amendment and ridiculous overspending.

This is how Libertatem used to be. How far we've come. No offense, Liberosia.

The Liberosolini of Liberosia

1 year 68 days ago

The region is structured like a corporation. We have one election: the WA Delegate, which has no protection and can be changed at any time. The rest of the members are appointed by either myself or the Delegate on a merit based system of government. This tradition is explained at greater length here.

In practice, the government of Libertatem has three major branches: the executives (myself and the Delegate), the government (which act as administrators and verifiers), and the legislature. The legislature consists of everyone in the region and has the powers to make new laws and approve amendments.

There has been some pushing for more direct democracy lately. If you wanted, you could draft a bill making a few of the government positions elected.

Baphometus wrote:Hey Mien, remember when you were in the Anarcho-Capitalist party?

Man, that party was so different before you took over.

Miencraft wrote:Man, that party was so different before you took over.

The founder was my first account, Zarden.

Humpheria wrote:This is how Libertatem used to be. How far we've come. No offense, Liberosia.

The Liberosolini of Liberosia

1 year 68 days ago

The region is structured like a corporation. We have one election: the WA Delegate, which has no protection and can be changed at any time. The rest of the members are appointed by either myself or the Delegate on a merit based system of government. This tradition is explained at greater length here.

In practice, the government of Libertatem has three major branches: the executives (myself and the Delegate), the government (which act as administrators and verifiers), and the legislature. The legislature consists of everyone in the region and has the powers to make new laws and approve amendments.

There has been some pushing for more direct democracy lately. If you wanted, you could draft a bill making a few of the government positions elected.

We need even more DIRECT DEMOCRACY!

Baphometus wrote:The founder was my first account, Zarden.

Oh.

Well, you know what I mean. When you took over with Hallo.

Fun Fact: CI made the DERP Act. When it was repealed, he was a member of the political organization that led to its disgrace.

Libertatem sure is interesting. Eventually, I'm going to sit down with some libertea and read the whole rmb, all 1606 pages of it.

Baphometus wrote:The founder was my first account, Zarden.

You were Zarden?? Why didn't I realize this?

Muh Roads wrote:You were Zarden?? Why didn't I realize this?

It was obvious. He ran against TNUS in the first election. Endralia ran against me. Imagine if he won. Where would the region be without all muh legislation.

I need to find my first post. Any easy ways yo do that?

Albenia wrote:I need to find my first post. Any easy ways yo do that?

Search it on forum view

Albenia wrote:I need to find my first post. Any easy ways yo do that?

Forum view. Dig around till you find it. But be careful, you ould get caught up in some ancient argument and never leave forum view.

Early Libertatem would probably give TTA constipation.

Humpheria wrote:Early Libertatem would probably give TTA constipation.

Eheh

Humpheria wrote:Early Libertatem would probably give TTA constipation.

Why?

Humpheria wrote:It was obvious. He ran against TNUS in the first election. Endralia ran against me. Imagine if he won. Where would the region be without all muh legislation.

Funny that I don't remember if I voted for you or not lol

Humpheria wrote:Early Libertatem would probably give TTA constipation.

Another one for the hall of fame.

Albenia wrote:Why?

Look for yourself if you really wanna know. Lotta Anti-Communism, lotta not democracy, and lotta PATRIOT act.

I'm getting there got to my Seat 5 race.

Islands, I like your new nations flag.

Albenia wrote:I'm getting there got to my Seat 5 race.

Which one was that again. lol

Humpheria wrote:Which one was that again. lol

Alchandria v. Me

Protip: Get NS++, then just "Search Messages" and put yourself under "Search Author"

Unless that's not an NS++ unique feature.

Albenia wrote:Alchandria v. Me

Long time ago.

Libertatem Trivia Question 1:

What party was the President in before starting the RLP?

Lib and Pev and CI cannot answer this.

First Conversation:

Me: Hello everyone. I am The Time Alliance. I'm A person who is classified as a centrist.Â

I have Leftist views on Economy

Right wing views on Social, and Political issues.

I'm a Left Libertarian on the political compass at about -4,-3

Pev: Looks like you represent what I used to be

The Lone Star: Looks like someone who fits the bill for the DRP is here...

5 minutes later: I started glorifying Marxism and Leninism.....I was an Awful Centrist.

Humpheria wrote:Long time ago.

Libertatem Trivia Question 1:

What party was the President in before starting the RLP?

Lib and Pev and CI cannot answer this.

Uhm the Christian Libertarian party or something

Humpheria wrote:Long time ago.

Libertatem Trivia Question 1:

What party was the President in before starting the RLP?

Lib and Pev and CI cannot answer this.

An Cap Party?

Humpheria wrote:Long time ago.

Libertatem Trivia Question 1:

What party was the President in before starting the RLP?

Lib and Pev and CI cannot answer this.

It's in the Party Factbook, man.

It was the Christian Libertarians.

Albenia wrote:First Conversation:

Me: Hello everyone. I am The Time Alliance. I'm A person who is classified as a centrist.Â

I have Leftist views on Economy

Right wing views on Social, and Political issues.

I'm a Left Libertarian on the political compass at about -4,-3

Pev: Looks like you represent what I used to be

The Lone Star: Looks like someone who fits the bill for the DRP is here...

5 minutes later: I started glorifying Marxism and Leninism.....I was an Awful Centrist.

Yeah, glorifying Marxism and Leninism won't get you far here.

Miencraft wrote:It's in the Party Factbook, man.

It was the Christian Libertarians.

Starting Easy.

#2:

How long was Snabagag in office?

Baphometus wrote:Yeah, glorifying Marxism and Leninism won't get you far here.

...And Marxism ain't exactly Centrism like I said I believed in...My GOD.

I used to be an Actual Communist!

Time: Communism to Corporatism to True Centrism. The ravishing tail of Time!

Albenia wrote:I was an Awful Centrist.

"Not Right, Not Left, But Forward"

Oh the memories.

Fun fact: this is the first joke I ever told in Libertatem:

"1:Do you want to hear the lamest joke in the world?

2:Yes.

1:Do you want to hear it again?"

Humpheria wrote:Starting Easy.

#2:

How long was Snabagag in office?

This is a hard one. If you gives give up. I can pass it to Liberosia.

Wait I went

Republican/ somewhat Anarchist (Capitalism)

------Joined NSG--------

Marxism/Left Libertarian

Corporatism

Centrism

Looking back, the last thing I said before CTE was

"You got blood on me knife, mate."

And then I came back and apologized,

"Well, sorry for the past inactivity, had forgotten about this with all the other things going on.

I'm back now.

Hi."

Humpheria wrote:"Not Right, Not Left, But Forward"

Oh the memories.

Oh by the way this is led by a Communist so yeah...

Miencraft wrote:Looking back, the last thing I said before CTE was

"You got blood on me knife, mate."

And then I came back and apologized,

"Well, sorry for the past inactivity, had forgotten about this with all the other things going on.

I'm back now.

Hi."

I'm very glad you came back, Mien.

Albenia wrote:Wait I went

Republican/ somewhat Anarchist (Capitalism)

------Joined NSG--------

Marxism/Left Libertarian

Corporatism

Centrism

Look, you weren't a political idiot before you joined.

Wait, who was Humpy's favorite?

Baphometus wrote:Look, you weren't a political idiot before you joined.

teehee

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Wait, who was Humpy's favorite?

Hallo because he isn't an RLP sheep like the rest of you.

Humpheria wrote:I'm very glad you came back, Mien.

I think the reason I came back was I punched "n" into Chrome one time, and it tried to autofill "Nationstates.net", so I was just "Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. How's everyone doing?"

I come back to basically a full TG inbox about how everything had gone to hell.

Like, literally, every TG I saw upon getting back was about how I was needed and where was I.

Humpheria wrote:Hallo because he isn't an RLP sheep like the rest of you.

Eheheh

I'm not actually on the calendar. Hm.

Oh how things have changed.

"Welcome back, Miencraft! :D I never knew you too well, but I hope that we can work together now to help rebuild the region." ~Pev

Humpheria wrote:Hallo because he isn't an RLP sheep like the rest of you.

Hey, it is our duty as RLP members to continue to spread the tyranny. By the way, I don't vote with the party, I vote on my standpoints.

Apparently this was a thing

"And i hereby declare the Libertatem-UCR embassy open!"

It was during my CTE so I have no idea if it was actually a thing.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Hey, it is our duty as RLP members to continue to spread the tyranny. By the way, I don't vote with the party, I vote on my standpoints.

All I hear is "baaaa baaa baaaa"

I'm just gonna keep dropping random regional history bombs every now and then.

Baphometus wrote:All I hear is "baaaa baaa baaaa"

Oh come on now, I vote on what I believe in

Post self-deleted by Miencraft.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Oh come on now, I vote on what I believe in

Baa, said the sheep

Baphometus wrote:Look, you weren't a political idiot before you joined.

No when I joined this region I was some Anarchic...Commie...Centrist...Who liked the Libertarian Party and Socialist Action Party...

The RLP does not influence my decision

Albenia wrote:No when I joined this region I was some Anarchic...Commie...Centrist...Who liked the Libertarian Party and Socialist Action Party...

Hey, you should stop being a centrist.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:The RLP does not influence my decision

BAAAAA

Baphometus wrote:Hey, you should stop being a centrist.

Nah...See not how it works.

To get here alone I had to discover all the fallacies of my old beliefs.

Fun fact:

"I will support this bill if it also merges the position of Internal Affairs Manager with Chairman of the Board. We don't need an expansion of government if there's already a part of it that serves no real purpose." ~Pev

Well, looks like we almost didn't have IA.

I'm voting...for no one because Lack isn't messaging me back about my Appeal.

The Libertatem President of Pevvania

1 year 38 days ago

Quote

Valued Oppurtunities To Equal Representation Reform Act

This piece of legislation essentially acts as a major amendment to Article I of the Constitution of Libertatem, although Articles II to V are altered mostly in reference to the titles held by governmental positions and bodies.

Section I

Clarification of the purpose of this amendment.

Subsection I

To streamline the governmental process of the region of Libertatem.

Subsection II

To shrink the size of government as opposed to enlarging it.

Subsection III

To give more opportunity for democratic participation within the region to the people;

Subsection IV

To rebrand the Libertatem political system to fit the image of a libertarian government as opposed to a large corporation.

Subsection V

To amend the constitution to reflect the governmental changes enforced upon the passing of the VOTER Amendment.

Section II

Replacement of the Board.

Subsection I

The Board, constitutionally defined as the upper chamber of the regional legislature, reflects the image of a large corporation. But Libertatem is not a corporation; it is a region of nations believing in the principles of liberty and small government. In this light, the Board is to be renamed the Senate.

Subsection II

The Senate is to be composed of five seats occupied by Senators.

Subsection III

The Senators shall convene to elect a Speaker of the Senate upon their election.

Section III

Replacement of the Managers.

Subsection I

‘Managers’ also sounds far too corporate for the term to be used to describe a member of government. This is why the terms must be renamed to better suit the respective duties of each position.

Subsection II

The powers and duties allocated to each position shall be scaled back to prevent the legislature from being ‘overcrowded’ with lawmakers and to limit the powers of the legislature. Being a public servant is a privilege, not an expectation. Powerful legislators should be in the minority when compared to the rest of the populace. This is why the Chairmen (or ‘Managers’ as they are currently known as) must be removed from the Senate upon the passing of this bill and must operate within the powers and limitations of their respective positions as defined in the Constitution of Libertatem in Subsections IV-VI, Section I, Article III.

Subsection III

The Manager of Internal Affairs is to be redesignated the Chairman of Internal Affairs.

Subsection IV

The Manager of Military Affairs is to be redesignated the Commander of Military Operations.

Subsection V

The Manager of State is to be redesignated the Secretary of Foreign Affairs.

Section IV

Dissolution of the House of Representatives.

Subsection I

The author of this bill sees that the House of Representatives is an unneeded chamber of government. While popular participation is something that is to be encouraged, direct democracy is not the way to achieve this. This is why the House of Representatives, as a legislative body, should be dissolved, with the powers allocated to each representative to vote and veto pieces of legislation to be absorbed by the Senate. So upon the enforcement of this bill, the Senate shall become the sole legislative body in Libertatem, to work in cooperation with the WA Delegate and Founder.

Subsection II

However, Subsections II and III of Section II, Article I of the Constitution of Libertatem are to remain in effect, giving the people power to impeach Senators through a vote of no confidence.

Section V

Elections.

Subsection I

To replace the House of Representatives is an active electorate that chooses members of the Senate, the Chairmen and the WA Delegate.

Subsection II

From the 1st to the 5th of each month, elections are to be held for Senators, Chairmen and the WA Delegate.

Subsection III

Votes are to be submitted to the Founder over the aforementioned period of time.

Subsection IV

Candidates running for Senate shall be chosen based on proportional representation; i.e. the top five candidates who garner the most votes shall be elected to the Senate. All who fail to gain the required number of votes lose the election. There is no limit to the number of terms a Senator may serve.

Subsection V

Candidates running for Chairman must run for a specific position: Chairman of Internal Affairs, Commander of Military Operations or Secretary of Foreign Affairs. They will be elected along the lines of the ‘first past the post’ system, meaning that the candidate to receive the highest number of votes is elected to that position. There is no ‘second place’; if you run for a spot and don’t gain as many votes as another candidate, you lose. There is no limit to the number of terms a Chairman may serve.

Subsection VI

Elected World Assembly Delegates may serve a maximum of two consecutive one-month terms in office at a time. To prevent raiding, all WA endorsements must be allocated to the Delegate and no other nation except the Founder. Any nations found endorsing another nation will be ejected.

Subsection VII

The two-month consecutive term rule is also a preventative strategy in regard to invasion. After serving for two months, a Delegate may not run for re-election for another two months. This is to act as a sort of ‘cool-off’ period so that Delegates do not gain too much power. In practice, a Delegate could serve two months, then remain absent from public office for another two months, before serving two months again.

Subsection VIII

Elected Delegates may only serve a maximum of twelve terms. After that, they may seek public office again, but may not obtain the Delegacy again.

The VOTERR Amendment was authored by Pevvania on the 14th of June, 2013.

Pev, most of your dream came true.

Will TTA's trial ever begin? Find out next week

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Will TTA's trial ever begin? Find out next week

Find out next lack.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Will TTA's trial ever begin? Find out next week

Apparently not.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Will TTA's trial ever begin? Find out next week

Lack needs to get off his ass and do something. Can we impeach a chairman because I am about ready

Hm, I wonder if I can find the Birth of the RLP in all this nonsensical history.

Miencraft wrote:Find out next lack.

*Drum sound after punchline*

Baphometus wrote:Lack needs to get off his ass and do something. Can we impeach a chairman because I am about ready

A vote of no confidence can be motioned by any member of the Board and all four of you have to vote in favor. But a bit extreme isn't it?

Humpheria wrote:A vote of no confidence can be motioned by any member of the Board and all four of you have to vote in favor. But a bit extreme isn't it?

Well he promised the most productive board term ever, and we have done nothing, so no.

Humpheria wrote:A vote of no confidence can be motioned by any member of the Board and all four of you have to vote in favor. But a bit extreme isn't it?

Well, The Board needs to get going and he is lacking in his duty as chairman.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:*Drum sound after punchline*

IT'S CALLED A RIMSHOT, YOU HOLE.

You guys don't have to justify if you want to initiate a vote of no confidence, you just convene, and then go ahead.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Well, The Board needs to get going and he is lacking in his duty as chairman.

Eheheheh I live for Lack puns

Godisdead wrote:IT'S CALLED A RIMSHOT, YOU HOLE.

Well gosh

Lack did what he wanted...as we are currently LACKing an active Board.

But, seriously, if you feel this Board term is LACKing something, just go ahead and take it into your own hands.

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