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Can somebody explain to me what is going on?

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:True on both counts, Oudestesos, but the majority of our elected legislative body does not see it that way.

Works for me - I'm sure Muh Roads will be pleased to hear the Mien/Humph platform is now divided ;)

It really isn't divided because we are both running on two tickets.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:This is WAR. There is no fairness here. Anything goes.

You should of done more research into the target you attacked. Or else you wouldn't have to suffer the consequences.

Now leave this region before I find away to attack and seize yours.

War?

wow, you guys are honestly paranoid. We did this with no hostility towards you or your inactive allies. we left when you asked. tell me, what did we do to begin a war?

Shermaniya wrote:Can somebody explain to me what is going on?

we raided an inactive allied region of these guys to see what we could do. we were asked to leave, and we did. Now your board has made a declaration of hostility towards us.

Shermaniya wrote:Can somebody explain to me what is going on?

No.

Oudestesos wrote:War?

wow, you guys are honestly paranoid. We did this with no hostility towards you or your inactive allies. we left when you asked. tell me, what did we do to begin a war?

Minerva has always been rather blood thirsty, he may not be the best one to listen to. But, in essence, what he is saying is that you attacked a region, you invaded, so you should not be so heated when you must face the consequences.

Now, what's done is done. If you do not continue raiding, like you have claimed we will have no further contact and no quarrels at all. Meaning, that you, as an outsider, trashing our region in our region is absolutely unnecessary and pointless.

Oudestesos wrote:we raided an inactive allied region of these guys to see what we could do. we were asked to leave, and we did. Now your board has made a declaration of hostility towards us.

So what, settle it like human beings.

LIBERTATEM: agree not to invade again

YOUR REGION: agree to not discuss this topic again

Shermaniya wrote:So what, settle it like human beings.

LIBERTATEM: agree not to invade again

YOUR REGION: agree to not discuss this topic again

We didn't invade, they invaded an ally.

Oudestesos wrote:War?

wow, you guys are honestly paranoid. We did this with no hostility towards you or your inactive allies. we left when you asked. tell me, what did we do to begin a war?

Yes, war.

An attack on an ally is a declaration of war. Just ask Nazi Germany and the US after the US declared war on Japan.

You obviously did have hostility, since you openly attacked an allied region and refounded it, prompting the appropriate reaction.

Humpheria wrote:We didn't invade, they invaded an ally.

Which ally? Are they a REATO member?

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This is going to be a difficult race. I'm on one of my opponent's tickets and I absolutely adore both of my opponents. If only I didn't have to leave in October, this never would have happened.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Yes, war.

An attack on an ally is a declaration of war. Just ask Nazi Germany and the US after the US declared war on Japan.

You obviously did have hostility, since you openly attacked an allied region and refounded it, prompting the appropriate reaction.

They didn't refound anything. Humpheria listed the wrong name in his report - no such region existed - and they founded a region by that name as a joke.

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Sounds like we have it under control.

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Kanatistan wrote:About how many members does the libertarian party have?

Two I think. Neither of them are in the gov.

ACOP and RLP are about as libertarian as you can get (but I'd like to think the former is more so than the latter). If memory serves, I founded the original Libertarian Party before disbanding it not long after.

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Nope, my mistake, it was the Minarchist Party. Stood for about the same thing, really.

9-15 regularly. about 5 more not regularly.

All I know is that there are more active nations than there are government officials, which is always a good thing.

We have at most times around 20 people that log on daily. And about that many who do so periodically.

This is the Humpheria/Miencraft 2014 Part 2 campaign page. We will need volunteers for the campaign soon, so drop us a line.

Also, if you are interested in sitting on the Cabinet should I win, please let me know. Currently the only position I have filled is VP and War, which will be Mien and Pev.

Kanatistan wrote:About how many members does the libertarian party have?

Join the Reaganist Libertarian Party. It's the best party.

Shermaniya wrote:Join the Reaganist Libertarian Party. It's the best party.

It is, the RLP is strong

Right-Winged Nation wrote:It is, the RLP is strong

*gasps* (PSA: Im independent)

Ankha wrote:*gasps* (PSA: Im independent)

*Writes down Ankha on hit list*

Join ACOP - same values, less groupthink.

We broke our record guys

(A record of 131 nations occurred on May 4, 2014)

Republic Of Minerva wrote:We broke our record guys

OMFG, it was 106 the other day.

There are 118,844 nations in the Nationstates world.

I think the reason Libertatem does so well compared to most other regions is that because it fills a niche. There are no other ideological raiders in this game besides the occasional imperialist, the communists and antifa, and the fascists. Libertatem is one of the few democratic liberal capitalist focused raider/defender regions in the game that will fight communists (without being nazis or roleplayers) and fascists (without being communist). It is this, plus it's well grounded active base, is why we continue to thrive.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:

Works for me - I'm sure Muh Roads will be pleased to hear the Mien/Humph platform is now divided ;)

My evil plan is working... mwhahaha.

I mean, good luck Humpy!

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I think the reason Libertatem does so well compared to most other regions is that because it fills a niche. There are no other ideological raiders in this game besides the occasional imperialist, the communists and antifa, and the fascists. Libertatem is one of the few democratic liberal capitalist focused raider/defender regions in the game that will fight communists (without being nazis or roleplayers) and fascists (without being communist). It is this, plus it's well grounded active base, is why we continue to thrive.

*authoritarian communists

Besides that, well said.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:*Writes down Ankha on hit list*

Well then

Guys guess who just joined the World Assembly

Tyrone Land!!!

Tyrone Land wrote:Guys guess who just joined the World Assembly

Tyrone Land!!!

That's nice.

Can you endorse our delegate, then?

Thanks.

Shermaniya wrote:*authoritarian communists

Besides that, well said.

Sure.

Thanks.

http://tinypic.com/r/2jse80/8

These are GOOD results! VOTE MUH ROADS!

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I think the reason Libertatem does so well compared to most other regions is that because it fills a niche. There are no other ideological raiders in this game besides the occasional imperialist, the communists and antifa, and the fascists. Libertatem is one of the few democratic liberal capitalist focused raider/defender regions in the game that will fight communists (without being nazis or roleplayers) and fascists (without being communist). It is this, plus it's well grounded active base, is why we continue to thrive.

This region is the beacon of freedom in nation states.

Arlenton wrote:This region is the beacon of freedom in nation states.

I agree! Let's keep it that way!!!

Ankha wrote:Well then

It's okay, the list for the RLP is long

Republic Of Minerva wrote:We broke our record guys

Vote Mien: the guy who commissioned the writing of the telegram that did that.

Or Roads, since he delivered the damn things.

Or Humpy, because he also did.

Or Mien, because I did as well.

Just vote. I don't care who for.

I hit 2B today...

Ankha wrote:I hit 2B today...

That's a good number.

Miencraft wrote:That's a good number.

I know

So we have 3 presidential candidates, great !

When did you plan to organize the debate ?

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:I would like to make an announcement. Now that the NLP is a kind of stillborn party, as 2 of its 3 originals founders have left Libertatem or its political life, I officially declare it dead.

However, his successor will be the UMR ( Union of moderates and reformists ), which will take back the main ideas of the NLP, such as encourage peace, a new flag, end the war on communism ( meanwhile supporting a strong foreign policy in case of threat for Libertatem ) and promote dialogue between ideologies.

The party will also encourage political diversity in the Libertatem institutions and fight power concentration, and its color will be cornflower blue ( or grey-blue ).

I'm also thinking about promoting the creation of a shadow board with all non-represented parties or opinions.

That's all folks !

Sorry to give you more work to do Pev.

Just a new quick reminder so Pev doesn't forget to update the political parties list when he'll have the time :P

Yeah and forget about that shadow board, this was just bullsh*t.

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:So we have 3 presidential candidates, great !

When did you plan to organize the debate ?

That's up to RWN, so far I think I'm the only who's agreed to it. I was thinking the 16th.

Considering all but one VP candidate (that one being myself) is also a Presidential candidate, am I still needed for that event?

Also, what happens if Humpy gets elected?

He's AG, and I don't think we've ever had an AG become President, so I don't know how that would work.

So For candidates for president, I was planning for the 16th of December for our debate. Humpheria has already agreed, so I need confirmation from the other two candidates

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Kanatistan wrote:I am confused as to my so many new people are coming in. You guys just really good at recruiting?

Good at recruiting, and an entire region kinda collapsed and we are taking them in

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Kanatistan wrote:Mine? Yeah... Thought that one would work... I will get more to come here then.

Sweet

Miencraft wrote:Also, what happens if Humpy gets elected?

He's AG, and I don't think we've ever had an AG become President, so I don't know how that would work.

.... I appoint a new AG.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:So For candidates for president, I was planning for the 16th of December for our debate. Humpheria has already agreed, so I need confirmation from the other two candidates

Works for me!

Muh Roads wrote:Works for me!

Great! I think it is going to be difficult to find issues that we disagree on though.

I still need help on an unrelated thing though, so if anyone has a little time, let me know.

Kanatistan wrote:Mine? Yeah... Thought that one would work... I will get more to come here then.

Good. As Humph said "You are in Libertatem, the best region on nationstates." Bring the masses

Shermaniya wrote:Good. As Humph said "You are in Libertatem, the best region on nationstates." Bring the masses

I did say that, so you should do that.

Make sure you telegram questions you have so I can ask our candidates. Also, Pevv day is coming up pretty soon.

We've been studying Political Philosophers of the Enlightment and our teacher gave out a report to do on which philosopher we were most like belief wise.

It's got me wondering...which Philosopher of the Enlightment am I most like?

Humpheria wrote:I did say that, so you should do that.

What's your problem?

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Make sure you telegram questions you have so I can ask our candidates. Also, Pevv day is coming up pretty soon.

How nice of you to remember. Yes, 9 days until I can add another year to my age.

Shermaniya wrote:What's your problem?

What?

Pevvania wrote:How nice of you to remember. Yes, 9 days until I can add another year to my age.

Think Pevv, you were the one that took this region to the top

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Think Pevv, you were the one that took this region to the top

Aww, shucks. I couldn't have done it without you guys, though, that's for sure.

Humpheria wrote:In the words of Pevvania's favorite president, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."

Haha, just got this joke!

The State Of Deseret wrote:We've been studying Political Philosophers of the Enlightment and our teacher gave out a report to do on which philosopher we were most like belief wise.

It's got me wondering...which Philosopher of the Enlightment am I most like?

Spinoza.

Pevvania wrote:Haha, just got this joke!

Dang that was a long time ago.

So, Wendy Davis. What a f---ing loser, huh?

Pevvania wrote:So, Wendy Davis. What a f---ing loser, huh?

Riiiight....

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Humpheria wrote:Riiiight....

You like her?

Pevvania wrote:You like her?

Hell no. That was more of an enthusiastic right, not sarcastic.

The State Of Deseret wrote:We've been studying Political Philosophers of the Enlightment and our teacher gave out a report to do on which philosopher we were most like belief wise.

It's got me wondering...which Philosopher of the Enlightment am I most like?

I like the idea of the enlightenment, it was arguably the birth of classic liberalism, but some of the people were just idiots.

Humpheria wrote:Hell no. That was more of an enthusiastic right, not sarcastic.

But seriously though, she's gotta be the biggest political loser of the year next to Obama. Her cheerfully pro-baby killing filibuster fails miserably, then she begins a doomed campaign for governor peppered with desperate attack ads and nasty slurs, while she's exposed as a gold-digging charlatan in the press. She fails miserably in the election, not even being able to win the women vote. And to top it all off, she's lost her State Senate seat. Good riddance.

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Kanatistan wrote:It I is funny, here in Wisconsin we got Scott Walker... He is not popular, honsetly would have lost if Obama didn't suck at doing his job. Mary Burke must really be bad if she lost to him...

I like Scott Walker. He believes in smaller government and has had the courage to fight the unions. His first term was very promising.

Oh I agree. I personally could not live in the world before the Reformation and Enlightment.

The world was too Monarchical and Christian for me. The Enlightenment was possibly the best eta in political philosophy as it brought about the philosophies a Freedom and Choice.

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Kanatistan wrote:I don't like his social policy.

What does that entail, exactly?

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Kanatistan wrote:I personally believe abortion, gay marriage, and so on is not the government job to regulate. Though I don't agree with said issues I am very libertarian... Actually I am an anarchist.

I have very mixed opinions on abortion, although it pisses me off that Republicans are still pushing the gay marriage issue in the way that they are. It's a pointless election loser that's totally inconsistent with conservative principles.

Kanatistan wrote:Have any of you guys read "Liberal Fascism"

I don't think so. Is it any good?

Kanatistan wrote:Have any of you guys read "Liberal Fascism"

No...can I get it for Free Online?

Kanatistan wrote:I personally believe abortion, gay marriage, and so on is not the government job to regulate. Though I don't agree with said issues I am very libertarian... Actually I am an anarchist.

...Economically your a Laissez faire guy then?

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Kanatistan wrote:Yeah, Jonah Goldberg talks about how Fascism is in reality not far right. He give some good points actually.

I used to hold this view, until I stopped caring about the idiotic left-right perception. Left and right are just arbitrary labels. What should be highlighted, whether you call fascism left or right, is that fascism is still a fundamentally socialist-oriented, statist, collectivist ideology.

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Pevvania wrote:So, Wendy Davis. What a f---ing loser, huh?

RIP Battleground Texas & good riddance.

like it had a chance anyway...

Kanatistan wrote:Yes, although I think collectivism is awesome I can't force people to do it.

I don't know if you can get it free or not.

I absolutely hate collectivism...I prefer individualism easily; though I prefer laws to protect workers, inform consumers and keep Employers steady.

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I'm the safest anarchy in Libertatem, wooo.

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:I'm the safest anarchy in Libertatem, wooo.

Safe? Anarchy?

My nation #10 haha....

Kanatistan wrote:Why do you hate collectivism?

Collecivism purposefully puts down individualism and no Collective has power outside of the individuals

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