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Muh Roads wrote:Lib is reachable by TG for those of you that don't know... He's a good guy!

It's just weird to see him post

135 unread posts. What have I missed?

did something happen to styling of nationstates website? half of it became unreadable. :9

[B]The Government's War on Freedom of the Press[/B]

http://reason.com/archives/2015/02/21/the-governments-war-on-freedom-of-the-pr

The U.S. plummeted to a dismal 49th place on the Reporters Without Borders annual Press Freedom Index, marking the country’s second lowest ranking since the list was created in 2002 and its lowest since 2006. Other countries ranked in the 40s and 50s include Haiti, Mongolia, and Chile.

The index cited “judicial harassment” of New York Times reporter James Risen, the arbitrary arrest of at least 15 journalists during the Ferguson, Missouri clashes, and the fact that U.S. journalists are still not legally entitled to protect sources who reveal confidential information about their work.

The U.S.’s slip in press freedom rankings mirrors its seven-place drop in Freedom House’s Global Press Freedom Index from 2013-2014, though the country still ranks among the 14 percent of countries whose press is classified as “free” in the latter scale.

Reality may be even worse than the rankings suggest. Legal protections for the press have only eroded since the 2006 trough year when the Bush Administration threatened to prosecute Risen for publishing stories chronicling warrantless wiretapping of citizens’ phone calls.

Since the Obama Administration took power, it has used the Espionage Act to prosecute data leakers a record seven times—more than every other president combined in the law’s nearly 100-year history—a Fox News journalist has been spied on by the Justice Department under the justification that he’s a criminal conspirator, Wikileaks creator Julian Assange has been declared “a hi-tech terrorist,” and the Supreme Court refused to overturn a lower court ruling against Risen stating that the First Amendment doesn’t protect him from refusing to testify about a whistleblower that allegedly leaked classified information about the CIA’s efforts to disrupt Iran’s nuclear program.

Reports from Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Glenn Greenwald even suggest that media outlets routinely vet their articles with government officials before publishing them.

“This consultative process with the government, The Guardian lawyers explained, is what enables newspapers to demonstrate they have no intent to harm national security by publishing top secret documents, and thus lack the requisite criminal intent to be prosecuted,” Greenwald wrote in his 2014 book No Place to Hide: Edward Snowden, the NSA, and the U.S. Surveillance State, explaining that papers such as The New York Times and Washington Post often spend weeks having controversial stories reviewed by the feds.

Greenwald scoffs at what he regards as a subservient process, and even wrote that he threatened his editors at The Guardian that he would publish the stories about the National Security Administration’s massive surveillance system on his own website if they kowtowed to the government.

What’s scary, however, is the fact that no one knows what would have happened to Greenwald had he had made good on his threats, because there are no court precedents on the issue of publishing information sensitive to national security. A provision of the Espionage Act outlaws “unauthorized communication” of national defense information, and some have argued that it could indeed be used to punish the media for publishing classified information, regardless of what the First Amendment says.

So far, none of the law’s targets have been journalists. Since the “unauthorized communication” provision has never been tested against the media, watchdogs have no idea where they stand with respect to the law. Who knows what the courts might rule if such an issue is brought before them now?

Many people mistakenly think that the American press is protected by the 1971 decision in the famous Pentagon Papers case, where the Supreme Court ruled that the U.S. government did not have the authority to prevent The New York Times from printing classified documents revealing that the military had secretly bombed Cambodia and Laos in the Vietnam War, among other transgressions. However, the Pentagon Papers case only raised the issue of whether the U.S. had the power to issue an injunction against publication, not whether it could criminally prosecute someone after the fact. We still don’t know whether such a charge would withstand court scrutiny.

The inconclusive ruling even prompted legal scholars Harold Edgar and Benno Schmidt Jr. to declare that the Espionage Act remained a “loaded gun pointed at newspapers and reporters who publish foreign policy and defense secrets” in their 1973 analysis of the case in Columbia Law Review. Fast-forward four decades, and the government seems to have taken the safety off.

Granted, there have been a few victories for the press this century. In 2001 the Supreme Court ruled that a reporter wouldn’t be held liable for broadcasting a conversation that had been illegally taped, and in 2009 the government dropped its case against two lobbyists charged under the Espionage Act for essentially doing what (good) journalists do: Trying to get government officials to reveal secret information.

Those victories are small ones, though, when one considers the overall decline in press freedom since the RWB first created its rankings. In another 10 years, a journalist like Greenwald could be collecting his or her Pulitzer from behind bars if the downward trend continues.

Chairman's Statement

I am putting forward my proposed amendment to Articles VII and VIII of the Constitution to revise elements that threaten the self-ownership and free speech rights of every nation in the region. I am not putting this forward for vote yet as I would like to hear the thoughts of the President, the RLP, and the region before I do so. I think the revisions authorised in this proposal are sufficient to secure our integrity as a region of liberty and vanquish any references to communism's younger brother fascism.

Article VII

Rights

Section I

Subsection VII

Nations have a right to form and keep any form of government they so choose, as long as said government does not infringe upon the rights of other Libertatem nations [STRIKE]AND IS IN NO WAY ALLIED WITH THE FORCES OF COMMUNISM AND SOCIALISM[/STRIKE]. The founder retains the power to make exceptions for this rule.

Article VIII

Anti-Communism

Subsection III

Citizens of Liberosia,

All forms of totalitarianism in our country have been abolished. The private sector makes a massive majority of our economy and we are thriving as a nation. However, there still exists nations dedicated to government power, and although the game of NationStates does not allow them to progress to their natural state of totalitarianism, we know from history that this ideology is the cause of much suffering and death. In this light, The Confederacy of Liberosia hereby declares war on communism. We will help any nation/region who wishes to pursue this war on communism by means of puppets, traditional warfare, and deception. This all in the name of a free people trying to pursue a free market. In case of invasion of our region, all radically leftist nations [STRIKE]WHO ARE WA DELEGATES[/STRIKE] be ejected and banned to [STRIKE]INSURE[/STRIKE]>ensure the security and stability of the region. [STRIKE]Nations only moderately leftist will be permitted to enter the region without fear of banishment. Because we wish to further this cause effectively, the capitalist nations will be forced to ally with the fascist nations. In this light, fascist nations will not be ejected from the region, but we maintain this region is inherently capitalist, not fascist. If a fascist nation comes to power, spams, or otherwise disrupts the stability of our region, he or she will be ejected and banned.[STRIKE] The Confederacy of Liberosia notes that it will be shunned by even capitalist regions/nations. It could encounter hostility from a variety of different regions. It is doubtful that our region will grow at the same rate as other more neutral regions. We will most probably remain stagnate. We will encounter ridicule, and mockery. However, we will shoulder all of these. To any nation reading this, if you are anti-communist, if you believe in free people and free markets, if you don't want to see the communists take power now or ever, you have a home in Libertatem.

Thank you

Pevvania wrote:Chairman's Statement

I am putting forward my proposed amendment to Articles VII and VIII of the Constitution to revise elements that threaten the self-ownership and free speech rights of every nation in the region. I am not putting this forward for vote yet as I would like to hear the thoughts of the President, the RLP, and the region before I do so. I think the revisions authorised in this proposal are sufficient to secure our integrity as a region of liberty and vanquish any references to communism's younger brother fascism.

Article VII

Rights

Section I

Subsection VII

Nations have a right to form and keep any form of government they so choose, as long as said government does not infringe upon the rights of other Libertatem nations [STRIKE]AND IS IN NO WAY ALLIED WITH THE FORCES OF COMMUNISM AND SOCIALISM[/STRIKE]. The founder retains the power to make exceptions for this rule.

Article VIII

Anti-Communism

Subsection III

Citizens of Liberosia,

All forms of totalitarianism in our country have been abolished. The private sector makes a massive majority of our economy and we are thriving as a nation. However, there still exists nations dedicated to government power, and although the game of NationStates does not allow them to progress to their natural state of totalitarianism, we know from history that this ideology is the cause of much suffering and death. In this light, The Confederacy of Liberosia hereby declares war on communism. We will help any nation/region who wishes to pursue this war on communism by means of puppets, traditional warfare, and deception. This all in the name of a free people trying to pursue a free market. In case of invasion of our region, all radically leftist nations [STRIKE]WHO ARE WA DELEGATES[/STRIKE] be ejected and banned to [STRIKE]INSURE[/STRIKE]>ensure the security and stability of the region. [STRIKE]Nations only moderately leftist will be permitted to enter the region without fear of banishment. Because we wish to further this cause effectively, the capitalist nations will be forced to ally with the fascist nations. In this light, fascist nations will not be ejected from the region, but we maintain this region is inherently capitalist, not fascist. If a fascist nation comes to power, spams, or otherwise disrupts the stability of our region, he or she will be ejected and banned.[STRIKE] The Confederacy of Liberosia notes that it will be shunned by even capitalist regions/nations. It could encounter hostility from a variety of different regions. It is doubtful that our region will grow at the same rate as other more neutral regions. We will most probably remain stagnate. We will encounter ridicule, and mockery. However, we will shoulder all of these. To any nation reading this, if you are anti-communist, if you believe in free people and free markets, if you don't want to see the communists take power now or ever, you have a home in Libertatem.

Thank you

We understand that you want all communists to die, but not everyone here does. I see this law as being unnecessary.

Alderney And Liberty City wrote:We understand that you want all communists to die, but not everyone here does. I see this law as being unnecessary.

Did you even read the amendment? was to indicate passages to be removed.

And no, I'd much rather have all communists to recognise their economic illiteracy and accept freedom over slavery. Killing an ideologue is a futile and counter-productive exercise that simply creates more of them. An idea can never be killed, but it can be stripped bare and laid down for its asininity.

Pevvania wrote:Did you even read the amendment? was to indicate passages to be removed.

And no, I'd much rather have all communists to recognise their economic illiteracy and accept freedom over slavery. Killing an ideologue is a futile and counter-productive exercise that simply creates more of them. An idea can never be killed, but it can be stripped bare and laid down for its asininity.

So you want to edit out what's in bold?

Alderney And Liberty City wrote:So you want to edit out what's in bold?

Uggh, yes. Please read our Constitution.

Annoys me when I hear people say "tax and regulate marijuana like alcohol". The alcohol regulatory regime, in Britain and America, is horribly wasteful, inefficient and corrupt, and leads to higher prices and worse-tasting beer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH2gJX_zZJk

Alderney And Liberty City wrote:We understand that you want all communists to die, but not everyone here does. I see this law as being unnecessary.

It seems that the text he advocates removing would make Libertatem more open to Nations of all ideologies. It would allow for any Nation deemed radically leftist to be ejected in times of invasion, however. Am I getting that right Mr. Chairman [nation=short]pevvania[/nation]?

Alderney And Liberty City

Austex wrote:It seems that the text he advocates removing would make Libertatem more open to Nations of all ideologies. It would allow for any Nation deemed radically leftist to be ejected in times of invasion, however. Am I getting that right Mr. Chairman [nation=short]pevvania[/nation]?

Yes. The radically leftist clause is one that has been in Article VIII from the very beginning, and serves a legitimate purpose in case we are invaded or attacked. There have been infiltration attempts before, and in case of attack it would be wise to eject those who are either suspected or obvious spies.

A guaranteed minimum income is very different from an NIT, and a very, very stupid idea. Ungodly inflation and money randomly going to rich people is not a good solution to the problems of the welfare state.

I like it Pev, good solution. I will try to come up with more solutions myself.

Pevvania wrote:There have been infiltration attempts before, and in case of attack it would be wise to eject those who are either suspected or obvious spies.
I would imagine any effective spy would tailor their puppet so as not to appear as a radical leftist.

Pevvania wrote:Uggh, yes. Please read our Constitution.

It's Sherm, I have read your constitution over and over.

Lost a good friend today. Treasure the people around you and never forget to tell them how much they mean to you. You may never be able to tell them again.

Miencraft, Yrellian Confederacy, Alderney And Liberty City

"The important thing to keep in mind is that the people who have created their government can give to that government only such powers as they, themselves, have in the first place. Obviously, they cannot give that which they do not possess. So, the question boils down to this. What powers properly belong to each and every person in the absence of and prior to the establishment of any organized governmental form? A hypothetical question? Yes, indeed! But, it is a question which is vital to an understanding of the principles which underlie the proper function of government.

"This means, then, that the proper function of government is limited only to those spheres of activity within which the individual citizen has the right to act. By deriving its just powers from the governed, government becomes primarily a mechanism for defense against bodily harm, theft and involuntary servitude. It cannot claim the power to redistribute the wealth or force reluctant citizens to perform acts of charity against their will. Government is created by man. No man possesses such power to delegate. The creature cannot exceed the creator."

- Ezra Taft Benson, Prophet, Seer and Revelator of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, The Proper Role of Government

http://www.latterdayconservative.com/ezra-taft-benson/the-proper-role-of-government/

Austex

Board Elections are coming up.

The RLP supports the re-election of all its incumbents.

Humpheria wrote:Lost a good friend today. Treasure the people around you and never forget to tell them how much they mean to you. You may never be able to tell them again.

I am very sorry about that, Humph.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-31574557

WTF David ?

How is it possible to think that people or companies who try to pay less taxes should be punished ?

Soon you'll be jailed if you tell a friend how to reduce his tax rate...

Fiscal oppression will be the great deal of the 21th century.

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-31574557

WTF David ?

How is it possible to think that people or companies who try to pay less taxes should be punished ?

British politics is dominated by two kinds of idiot: the kind of idiot that complains about "immigrants takin good Bri'ish jobs" or the kind of idiot that complains about "them corporations dodgin their tax bill". Both are economically illiterate, and both don't seem to realise how similar their ideas are.

It's been a slow weekend. I trust you've all had a good one?

Pevvania wrote:It's been a slow weekend. I trust you've all had a good one?

Yes. Absolutely terrific. [/sarcasm]

So what is the current state of Australian Republicanism?

Northern Prussia wrote:So what is the current state of Australian Republicanism?

It's in an awful state right now. The '99 referendum, deliberately botched by Little Johnny, was a huge blow to the movement. Now, just 39% of Australians support a republic, largely over bullshit emotional reasons such as the youth of Prince William and his wife. We've also got an idiot in charge who enjoys grovelling to his British masters.

To me the idea of British empire was always romantic, but as an American. I would never agree to a British Monarch as my head of state and for the same for any nation that is not the England.

And I wished that Scotland had gained it's independence last year

Humpheria wrote:Lost a good friend today. Treasure the people around you and never forget to tell them how much they mean to you. You may never be able to tell them again.

My sentiments Humpy... it's never easy.

Pevvania wrote:It's been a slow weekend. I trust you've all had a good one?

Not a bad one! Got a lot of cleaning done around the house.

Pevvania wrote:Board Elections are coming up.

The RLP supports the re-election of all its incumbents.

I'd like to announce my candidacy for seat 3 under the RLP....

(Since Pev's rear is currently warming my favorite spot.)

I've just abolished all copyrights. What do you guys think about " intellectual property " ?

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:I've just abolished all copyrights. What do you guys think about " intellectual property " ?

I can never make my mind up on that issue. I'm typically in favor of it, but I do understand the argument that copyrights may in fact inhibit progress.

I will run for Seat 5 as a RLP

I will run for Seat 2.

And I will run for re-election to Seat 1.

I advise the President to reject all embassy requests except those for Zentari and The Great American Union. Most requests are of regions of little value or significance.

I will re-run for seat 4

Liberosia wrote:-snip-

Then I would like the House to discuss the flag proposals we have seen recently, and it shall be brought to vote when there is nothing more to discuss.

Pevvania wrote:Yes. The radically leftist clause is one that has been in Article VIII from the very beginning, and serves a legitimate purpose in case we are invaded or attacked. There have been infiltration attempts before, and in case of attack it would be wise to eject those who are either suspected or obvious spies.

Works for me.

Pevvania wrote:It's been a slow weekend. I trust you've all had a good one?

I've been busy, but on the bright side, I'm now able to afford a good laptop and should purchase one soon.

Pevvania wrote:I advise the President to reject all embassy requests except those for Zentari and The Great American Union. Most requests are of regions of little value or significance.

Very well - I agree.

Current Board election standings:

Pevvania wrote:And I will run for re-election to Seat 1.

Humpheria wrote:I will run for Seat 2.

Muh Roads wrote:I'd like to announce my candidacy for seat 3 under the RLP....

Right-Winged Nation wrote:I will re-run for seat 4

Northern Prussia wrote:I will run for Seat 5 as a RLP

No word from Seat 3's incumbent, Ankha.

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Oh, hello. Haven't heard from you in three months.

Ankha doesn't think he has a chance as it is. Especially since someone as great as Muh, but I guess I'll still run as am independent. Vote Ankha...

Seat Three is a contest between Independent (and incumbent) Ankha, and challenger Muh Roads of the RLP.

I encourage every citizen of Libertatem to consider running for a Board seat, regardless of which party (or lack thereof) they represent.

Ankha wrote:Ankha doesn't think he has a chance as it is. Especially since someone as great as Muh, but I guess I'll still run as am independent. Vote Ankha...

Never know! Good luck my friend!

Either way, we get a great member on the board!

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Oh look Misley finally sent his minions to attack us.

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Republic Of Minerva wrote:Oh look Misley finally sent his minions to attack us.

" attack "

Communist aggression at its finest.

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Oh sh!t they mean business don't they.

*starts polishing the Sword of DEAT* Ontenburg, darling, a brief reminder that trying to operate multiple WA nations (especially for a raid) is against the rules... and so is using multiple puppets to spam and harass people. Be a dear and make your exit before I finish sharpening the Sword of DEAT, kay?

Thank you so much, moderators!

Not to mention that his raid is largely ineffective since we have a founder. But I'd give it a 2 for effort.

7 minutes ago: Commuism of soveit afrivca ceased to exist.

7 minutes ago: Take over demcorazy ceased to exist.

7 minutes ago: Charlie world ceased to exist.

7 minutes ago: Weee weee ceased to exist.

Oopsie

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Not to mention that his raid is largely ineffective since we have a founder. But I'd give it a 2 for effort.

And a super-active founder that could pretty much spring into action whenever, at that.

Wasn't Ontenburg one of Neutricland's cronies?

Erm... what happened here?

LOL, communists are so stupid

Pevvania wrote:Wasn't Ontenburg one of Neutricland's cronies?

Neutricland of The Federal Islands 2, that is. Original founder of The Federal Islands before abandoning it, then coming back, rigging elections and then forming a secessionist state after being impeached, only for him and his band of juvenile thugs to be deleted by the mods forever. That Neutricland.

I'm pretty sure that Otenburg was a close associate of his. Can anyone fact-check this?

Oi, Right-winged nation! Knock it off with the trolly talk. Y'don't have to like communism, but that doesn't mean you get to make blanket statements like that.

Nationstates Moderators wrote:Oi, Right-winged nation! Knock it off with the trolly talk. Y'don't have to like communism, but that doesn't mean you get to make blanket statements like that.

Communists are stupid, the system the believe in calls for the murder of millions, not a great plan.

Pevvania wrote:Neutricland of The Federal Islands 2, that is. Original founder of The Federal Islands before abandoning it, then coming back, rigging elections and then forming a secessionist state after being impeached, only for him and his band of juvenile thugs to be deleted by the mods forever. That Neutricland.

I'm pretty sure that Otenburg was a close associate of his. Can anyone fact-check this?

This is unlikely to be a coincidence. Neutric supposedly revived one of his accounts recently, though it was deleted, according to SPQR over in TFI2.

It's possible that he, or someone who shared his IP, is trying to exact revenge on NS (specifically, the regions he/they doesn't/don't like). Not that it did any good.

What was that? Site went down shortly after the last message.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:This is unlikely to be a coincidence. Neutric supposedly revived one of his accounts recently, though it was deleted, according to SPQR over in TFI2.

It's possible that he, or someone who shared his IP, is trying to exact revenge on NS (specifically, the regions he/they doesn't/don't like). Not that it did any good.

Not a great plan, it's why communists are stupid. *Knows the mods are watching*

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Not a great plan, it's why communists are stupid. *Knows the mods are watching*

I predict a vacancy in Board Seat Four. Who will run for the seat?

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:I predict a vacancy in Board Seat Four. Who will run for the seat?

Hey, i'm not kicked off yet

Aaand "Right-winged nation" gets an official warning on their record for trolling. When you get told "Stop doing that thing, it's a bad idea," it's a REALLY bad idea to double-down on that exact thing. Communism being stupid is one thing; that attacks the argument/ideology. Communists being stupid is another; it's a blanket statement about a group of people that serves no purpose but to antagonize.

Knock it off.

Communism is stupid :D

Muh Roads wrote:Communism is stupid :D

I guess there is a difference between calling communists stupid and calling communism stupid, Boy have I learned my lesson, never again will I call communists stupid ever again, I will just call their ideology stupid :D

Right-Winged Nation wrote:I guess there is a difference between calling communists stupid and calling communism stupid, Boy have I learned my lesson, never again will I call communists stupid ever again, I will just call their ideology stupid :D

Ooh, snarky backtalk. How rebellious.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/508/watch-out-we-got-a-badass-over-here-meme.png

Right-Winged Nation wrote:I guess there is a difference between calling communists stupid and calling communism stupid, Boy have I learned my lesson, never again will I call communists stupid ever again, I will just call their ideology stupid :D

[insert ironic joke here]

Servers keep going down.

So i probably need to stop now, the mods sent me a telegram, I guess they're not kidding

They aren't. Probably farmhamia or Fris. They're really strict

I'll run for Board Seat 4. Libertatem needs cool-headed, responsible representation. Not people who get into it with the mods...

RWN.... stop. You're not helping yourself. Probably getting close to deletion. Pick your battles.

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:I've just abolished all copyrights. What do you guys think about " intellectual property " ?

One of the few times I agree with Ayn Rand. Why should we be entitled to the sweat of our brow, but not to the... sweat of our brains? I'll work on the analogy, but the point is there. One's intellectual property is as much his as something he fashions out of tangible materials.

The Wabash wrote:I'll run for Board Seat 4. Libertatem needs cool-headed, responsible representation. Not people who get into it with the mods...

I am cool headed, I just happened to pick just this once to upset the mods.

I wish Wabash the best, he will be a good opponent to run against.

In non-primary seats, the RLP endorses all RLP candidates. This includes:

Seat One: Pevvania

Seat Two: Humpheria

Seat Three: Muh Roads

Seat Five: Northern Prussia

The RLP will conduct a CLOSED primary for Seat Four. This primary will start now and end, if there is no concession, close this Friday (2/27/25). Any nation may vote by sending their candidates' name to this nation through telegram. However, it is closed so only nations deemed in "good standing" will count. You will be informed about the status of your vote (whether it counted or not).

Seat Four: Right-winged nation vs. The Wabash

So is anyone else bored and watching the Oscars because you don't have anything else better to do? Unfortunately I am

Umm I refuse to stoop that low. No offense

Post self-deleted by Humpheria.

Ankha wrote:Umm I refuse to stoop that low. No offense

What?

Ankha wrote:Umm I refuse to stoop that low. No offense

None taken, some hollywood phony actress just gave a speech on the war against women. Clint Eastwood rolled his eyes and it was pretty funny.

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:I've just abolished all copyrights. What do you guys think about " intellectual property " ?

How did I miss this?

I think I elaborated on this earlier, but all-in-all I like the idea of intellectual property, but the way copyrighting and the like is done is just really dumb and doesn't help much of anything at all.

Fix that process and we're pretty much good.

Miencraft wrote:How did I miss this?

I think I elaborated on this earlier, but all-in-all I like the idea of intellectual property, but the way copyrighting and the like is done is just really dumb and doesn't help much of anything at all.

Fix that process and we're pretty much good.

Simplify beauracracy? NEVER

Ankha wrote:Simplify beauracracy? NEVER

Yeah Mien, that's crazy talk

Ankha wrote:Simplify beauracracy? NEVER

Nah, not simplify.

Fix.

But then again that's just even crazier.

Miencraft wrote:Nah, not simplify.

Fix.

But then again that's just even crazier.

Keep talking like that and a certain group of people watching might get on you

Post self-deleted by Ankha.

Anyone got an idea who this is?

[nation=a s]

gius ive been branwashed by the borgeos pls help

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