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Miri Islands wrote:It seems like no matter what I do my economic freedom keeps going down

Perhaps this will help, although some may consider it cheating:

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Postby Trotterdam » Sun Apr 08, 2018 6:33 am

Want to know what an option will do before you choose it? Well, now you can.

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=440593

NSIndex used to contain issue outcomes but they purged the data some time ago.

I think it's best to answer the issues to the best of your ability in the way your personal belief system would dictate, then let the chips fall where they may. The only time I set out with a specific goal was my unreasonably long campaign to abolish taxation. It took almost a whole year, because things that shouldn't increase taxes did, I even remember a few issues where, IN THE SOLUTION ITSELF, it specifically called to lower taxes, but my tax rate increased. Every time I lowered it, it would only lower it by less than a penny. Thankfully I got that god-send issue to abolish all subsidies, and that put me in the negative, so I could then spend money to buff up my police and military until I got just under zero. Fortunately I've been able to maintain close to that ever since.

Republic Of Minerva

New poll in Zentari. Come and vote!

What's your opinion on Stem Cells?

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

I managed to abolish taxes without abolishing the government.

It is possible, folks!

Islands, The New United States, Rateria

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I managed to abolish taxes without abolishing the government.

It is possible, folks!

I manage to be an anarchy with a preposterously large military, this game never ceases to amaze

Islands, The New United States, Rateria

Skaveria wrote:I manage to be an anarchy with a preposterously large military, this game never ceases to amaze

I have a secret police force that can detain people without due process but I have superb civil rights

The New United States, Rateria

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:2 hours ago: [nation=long]Deacarsia[/nation] of the region Albosiac proposed constructing embassies.

Sorry, no embassies with statists, Fascists, religious intolerants, and racists—Denied.

Go deal with you issues 😉 elsewhere. Leave the rest of us in peace.

>Dunkin on a region with 2 people

The New United States, Rateria, Skaveria

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:2 hours ago: [nation=long]Deacarsia[/nation] of the region Albosiac proposed constructing embassies.

Sorry, no embassies with statists, Fascists, religious intolerants, and racists—Denied.

Go deal with you issues 😉 elsewhere. Leave the rest of us in peace.

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:😏😉

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=deacarsia/detail=factbook/id=1217440

Is it really necessary to alienate potential allies just because you have a bone to pick with anti-Masonic Catholics?

Pevvania, Miri Islands, Kongeriget Island

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:Why, no. I would point out though that I have no bone to pick with anti-masonic Catholics, nor did I alienate a potential ally because of such a fiction. I think that anyone here who could take a look at the region and say that it is a potential ally is... either completely blind... or... worse...

I don't see anything objectionable about accepting an embassy from a region that is officially capitalistic, anti-communist, and traditionalist Catholic.

It seems like a more natural ally than plenty of the embassies we currently host (not to say we shouldn't have those embassies).

And I figured you were justifying your decision off of the founder's anti-Masonic factbook, since you re-posted the factbook immediately after posting about cancelling the embassy request.

Pevvania, Narland, The United States Of Patriots, Skaveria, Miri Islands, Kongeriget Island

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:2 hours ago: [nation=long]Deacarsia[/nation] of the region Albosiac proposed constructing embassies.

Sorry, no embassies with statists, Fascists, religious intolerants, and racists—Denied.

Go deal with you issues 😉 elsewhere. Leave the rest of us in peace.

We literally have embassies with ALL statists. Also, after a quick look on their page, I saw no evidence of Fascism, just anti-communist, right-wing rhetoric.

The New United States, Miri Islands, Kongeriget Island

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:1. We do not.

2. They are part of an alliance that almost exclusively includes fascists.

Statists are anyone who isn't an Anarchist. We have embassies with conservative, liberal, and libertarian regions. Calling them statists isn't a good enough excuse when we have a long history of partnerships with statists.

We also, if you remember, have a history of partnerships with Fascists against Communists. That's even considering that they ARE Fascists. Were we Fascists when we partnered with them during the war on Communism?

Kongeriget Island

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:Our region has fascists among our "founding fathers" so... Maybe.

Irrational

Kongeriget Island, Luxemborglo

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:If you have a decent percentage of fascists among your members, I don't think it's unreasonable to conclude that you're at least a little fascist.

You're population is irrelevant, the question is if the Fascists are in power? If the said Fascists ARE in power, are they implementing that Fascism currently? Are the people you're calling Fascists even proper Fascists or just Nationalists and you haven't made a qualitative distinction?

Miri Islands, Kongeriget Island

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:You are trying to argue something that you are ignorant of.

No I'm not, you claimed that as a region contains more and more fascists, the region itself becomes more and more fascist. That's simply not the case. What makes a region a particular ideology is the structure of the government and who's in charge.

Miri Islands, Kongeriget Island

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:If you were not arguing something you were ignorant of, you would, I suspect, not have included so many questions—the answers being obvious to anyone who did a little investigation—and would, I suspect, not have disagreed with, at the very least my statement that some of our "founding fathers" were fascists. One os currently a government official and WA delegate for a fairly well sized Fascist region.

I'm not sure who you're referring to, but YOU made the claim, it's up to you to provide evidence and actually name who you're talking about. Also, even if they're Fascist now, doesn't prove that they were Fascist while here.

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:I did back up my claim. I think it's funny that you're continuing to be defensive about something that you clearly know nothing about. I could understand if it were simple scepticism, but you appear to have an outright defensive tone.

You never said who it was you were reffering to. You said some of our founders were fascists. I asked "which ones and were they fascist at the time?" You just keep repeating "you don't kniw what you're talking about." And "They were fascists."

Like yeah, I got that part. Show me some evidence. And forgive my defensive tone, usually when somebody accuses someone of Fascism, it's baseless, so I've become automatically skeptical of such claims, little boy who cried wolf esque.

Miri Islands, Kongeriget Island

Happy Thanksgiving in the USA. Here are some things for which I am thankful --

I am grateful to Almighty God for giving me the very breath I breathe.

I am thankful for Grandparents who stepped in to raise me when my parents didn't have their act together.

I am appreciative for those family, friends, neighbors, and various church members who have stuck with me through debilitating tragedy despite myself.

I am happy to have privilege to live in one of the greatest countries from amongst the many that belong to the greatest and most beneficent civilization to have arisen in the known history of mankind.

and, I will be pleased to partake of the steer named "Fake Turkey" that provided the hamburgers for Thanksgiving dinner even though someone brought a real turkey anyway.

Pevvania, The New United States, Kumquat Cove, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Luxemborglo

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:Our region has fascists among our "founding fathers" so... Maybe.

Surely you don't mean one of the founders of the region? The only Liberosia/Snabagag-era fascists that weren't exiled or banned were Einsiev and The New Sea Territory, neither of whom was a 'founder' of the region and both of which eventually converted from fascism.

Skaveria wrote:We also, if you remember, have a history of partnerships with Fascists against Communists. That's even considering that they ARE Fascists. Were we Fascists when we partnered with them during the war on Communism?

Open cooperation with fascists ended when I became President in 2013.

Islands, The New United States, Rateria, Kongeriget Island

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:I suppose we have a different definition of founding father. But Einsiev never "converted" from Fascism, I can tell you that much is complete hogwash, as hes currently hanging out in Tupolite's region, and just within the last month or two of the Second Republic founded a fascist party, and then a party which was basically a fascost party except Lib technically isn't a Fascist (he just thinks every fascist ever was great and all that annoying garbage that we are all familiar with).

Alright, but none of those people are or were the 'founding fathers' of the region. No disrespect to Einsiev, but he did not have a big enough impact on early Libertatem (or current) politics to be imbued with that title. What was your point again?

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:*"The Constitution was ratified on January 18th 2013 by Liberosia, Snabagag, Conservative Idealism, Coolidgestein, Independent States of America, RedBadge, Einsiev and Rotgeheim. "*

This is generally considered a fairly important enough contribution.

Oh, I missed that. Ok alright then, let's call him a founding father. But still, fascism has never been in the character of this region, except in the use of realpolitik in the first year and a half of Libertatem's existence to prosecute the War on Communism.

Islands, The New United States, Rateria, Kongeriget Island

Greetings from Union Of Allied States! We look forward to cooperating together in the future!

Islands, Rateria, Venomringo, Luxemborglo

The ideas of the Enlightenment are so f*cking attractive, especially Rousseau, in theory, and Robespierre, in praxis. At times, I'm not sure if Rousseau is just a rhetorician disguising himself as a philosopher because, man, this guy can write! Then reading Robespierre's speech really comes alive. You just have to respect the man's hustle in trying to conform society to a general will expressed with the guillotine. Like, you could so fit Rousseau's ideas in a socialist state which would be pretty dope. Man is not the typical classical liberal, very revolutionary, no pun intended. Big fan, great guy, tremendous individual - yee!

Venomringo wrote:The ideas of the Enlightenment are so f*cking attractive, especially Rousseau, in theory, and Robespierre, in praxis. At times, I'm not sure if Rousseau is just a rhetorician disguising himself as a philosopher because, man, this guy can write! Then reading Robespierre's speech really comes alive. You just have to respect the man's hustle in trying to conform society to a general will expressed with the guillotine. Like, you could so fit Rousseau's ideas in a socialist state which would be pretty dope. Man is not the typical classical liberal, very revolutionary, no pun intended. Big fan, great guy, tremendous individual - yee!

Well you can chase modern socialist thought back to the french revolution.

Kongeriget Island

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Skaveria wrote:Well you can chase modern socialist thought back to the french revolution.

I think I drunk bantered by accident

Luxemborglo

Someone has summoned me from the darkness

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:except Lib technically isn't a Fascist (he just thinks every fascist ever was great and all that annoying garbage that we are all familiar with).

Lib disagreed with me about war and colonialism, so I think it's hardly fair to call him fascist. Beyond his support for absolute monarchy and theocratic views, most of Lib's beliefs are not so much reflections of a systematic ideology as a reaction to his country being flooded with unwashed Muslim "refugees," something which is entirely understandable in his case. Also, I wasn't fascist either at the time, but I have Einsiev in part to thank for my gradual conversion (emphasis on "in part").

Kongeriget Island

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I think I know what I want from my State's Representatives and Senators this election season. I want comprehensive legislation instructing the Federal Marshal's Service to root out and criminally charge all Federal public servants, their aides, agents and operatives of but not limited to any and all misfeasance, malfeasance, misprisions of felony, deprivation of rights of under colour of authority to the fullest extent of the law as an emergency action utilizing any and all safety officers that may be lawfully commandeered. I tried to think of a more deprecating term for the Beltway power-mad subversive public servants who deigned to pervert the Constitution and deprive the People of their rights, the Office of the President itself, the President himself, and those of his election campaign team as if the US were a corrupt third world failed state by their incontinent abuse of the American System other than "typical bureaucrat" but that should be a stinging enough reproach in light of our constitutional Republic.

For those who are running for election I will pose these questions:

*.....Has anyone involved in the "administrative" coup to overthrow the duly elected President of the US been indicted for their malfeasance yet?

*.....What will you do to insure that this never happens again?

*.....When will those depriving others of their rights under color of authority be held accountable? Will you continue to support their questionable activities or do you have a plan to insure that this behaviour is stopped?

*.....When will anyone committing misprision of felonies in the Federal government be charged for their crimes or do you plan to continue to allow them to be rewarded with a monthly paycheck and inevitable promotion?

*.....What will you do to protect your Constituents from this corruption and what is your plan to systematically root out the corruption around you?

*.....If you do not plan to root out the corruption (waste, fraud, abuse, ad naseum) around you, why do you deserve any votes?

Please consider asking similar questions this election.

Miri Islands

Narland wrote:I think I know what I want from my State's Representatives and Senators this election season. I want comprehensive legislation instructing the Federal Marshal's Service to root out and criminally charge all Federal public servants, their aides, agents and operatives of but not limited to any and all misfeasance, malfeasance, misprisions of felony, deprivation of rights of under colour of authority to the fullest extent of the law as an emergency action utilizing any and all safety officers that may be lawfully commandeered. I tried to think of a more deprecating term for the Beltway power-mad subversive public servants who deigned to pervert the Constitution and deprive the People of their rights, the Office of the President itself, the President himself, and those of his election campaign team as if the US were a corrupt third world failed state by their incontinent abuse of the American System other than "typical bureaucrat" but that should be a stinging enough reproach in light of our constitutional Republic.

For those who are running for election I will pose these questions:

*.....Has anyone involved in the "administrative" coup to overthrow the duly elected President of the US been indicted for their malfeasance yet?

*.....What will you do to insure that this never happens again?

*.....When will those depriving others of their rights under color of authority be held accountable? Will you continue to support their questionable activities or do you have a plan to insure that this behaviour is stopped?

*.....When will anyone committing misprision of felonies in the Federal government be charged for their crimes or do you plan to continue to allow them to be rewarded with a monthly paycheck and inevitable promotion?

*.....What will you do to protect your Constituents from this corruption and what is your plan to systematically root out the corruption around you?

*.....If you do not plan to root out the corruption (waste, fraud, abuse, ad naseum) around you, why do you deserve any votes?

Please consider asking similar questions this election.

I know my state representatives are head first into the impeachment nonsense

https://www.dailywire.com/news/historians-shred-nyt-1619-project-claiming-slavery-defines-america?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro

This what happens when the MSM goes on an ahistorical campaign to smear America, which had far less to do with slavery than many other major countries (such as Brazil, which imported more slaves and didn't abolish slavery until the 1880s).

Rateria, Miri Islands, Luxemborglo

Pevvania wrote:https://www.dailywire.com/news/historians-shred-nyt-1619-project-claiming-slavery-defines-america?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro

This what happens when the MSM goes on an ahistorical campaign to smear America, which had far less to do with slavery than many other major countries (such as Brazil, which imported more slaves and didn't abolish slavery until the 1880s).

Thank you for the article. When one of the interviewed people said that no leading expert on this subject was consulted, it cemented my opinion of the 1619 Project being poorly informed. It may not be too much of a stretch to call it deceptive if what the article says is true.

Pevvania, Miri Islands

Pevvania wrote:https://www.dailywire.com/news/historians-shred-nyt-1619-project-claiming-slavery-defines-america?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro

This what happens when the MSM goes on an ahistorical campaign to smear America, which had far less to do with slavery than many other major countries (such as Brazil, which imported more slaves and didn't abolish slavery until the 1880s).

Truth is the first casualty in war.

Rateria, Miri Islands

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Lol why is Karl Rove held up as some kind of brilliant political strategist? He took Bush Jr. to two very meagre victories, the second of which was the worst margin for a re-election victory in history (35 electoral votes), despite the fact Bush was a wartime president with a decent economy that had 90% approval ratings after 9/11. Wow, 286 electoral votes, great job. He has also had an abysmal record of predicting election results.

The New United States, Luxemborglo

Free Roger Stone!

Luxemborglo

Why Tulsi Gabbard isn't dominating the Democratic field right now, I don't know. She's way more electable than every other candidate, she's a native Hawaiian, a veteran, a woman, and the first Hindu elected to congress. They should hypothetically love her.

Pevvania, Miri Islands

Skaveria wrote:Why Tulsi Gabbard isn't dominating the Democratic field right now, I don't know. She's way more electable than every other candidate, she's a native Hawaiian, a veteran, a woman, and the first Hindu elected to congress. They should hypothetically love her.

For progressive dems: She once boasted working for a group that promoted conversion therapy and there are other options out there that are more progressive.

For establishment dems: She attacked queen Hillary and Copmala Harris.

Pevvania

Jadentopian Order wrote:For progressive dems: She once boasted working for a group that promoted conversion therapy and there are other options out there that are more progressive.

For establishment dems: She attacked queen Hillary and Copmala Harris.

Kamala should stay in Cali embrace that record. We need a tough on crime DA like her. Also best moment in all the debates was when Tulsi just verbally murdered KH

Miri Islands wrote:Kamala should stay in Cali embrace that record. We need a tough on crime DA like her. Also best moment in all the debates was when Tulsi just verbally murdered KH

That really was the turning point for her campaign too. Don't know any Kamala type people, but it must have been really hard to justify her after that one

Miri Islands wrote:Kamala should stay in Cali embrace that record. We need a tough on crime DA like her. Also best moment in all the debates was when Tulsi just verbally murdered KH

“Tough on crime” is a nice euphemism for “over policing black neighborhoods.”

Republic Of Minerva, Rateria, Jadentopian Order, Articles Of Confederation Usa

Venomringo wrote:“Tough on crime” is a nice euphemism for “over policing black neighborhoods.”

It's a very unfortunate feedback loop. Past institutional racism lead to black people being disproportionately poor, which lead to crime and a criminal culture. The criminal culture lead to the perception and stereotype of black people as criminals, which lead to overpolicing, which lead to more encounters with police, which then, in turn, reaffirmed the existing stereotype.

It'd be a mistake, however, to just unilaterally remove vast quantities of police from black neighborhoods. We tried that in the 1980s. There were certain areas police literally wouldn't go to because they were warzones and too dangerous. The only thing we could really do is end the war on drugs, beyond that, the solution to the relationship between black people and police has to come from within the black community, that criminal culture needs to be broken.

Pevvania, Rateria, Miri Islands

What we really need is an independent african-american state in the black belt of the American south

Republic Of Minerva wrote:What we really need is an independent african-american state in the black belt of the American south

Malcolm X gang

Orange Man Bad, Act I. was like a poorly scripted middle school thespian flash mob. Schiff & Co. need to be replaced this election.

Orange Man Bad Act II by Judicial Troupe was like watching a poorly executed boring Greek Tragedy in sloooooooow motion written by Sophmorecles the lesser known idiot brother of Sophocles. Alas, there was no bleating of the goats for a more pleasing chorus. There was only the droning on and on of "Orange Man Bad! Defy the Electoral Fates and impeach! Bad Orange Man... Impeach"

Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad. And after watching the travesty in the Judiciary Committee today, I was mad. Mad angry at the mad crazy in the House. As one of the witnesses testified, "We are all mad."

Rateria, Miri Islands

Orange-man-ian Rhapsody

This is Trump life, this electability,

Not a landslide but still the presidency,

Open your eyes look on the Fox news to see

I'm just a Queens' boy I get no sympathy

Because I'm "here they come build a wall really high make it tall"

Any way a thing polls really doesn't matter to me, to me, to me.

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Miri Islands

This is what I get for wasting time watching Congress and then eating a slice of meaty pizza before bedtime. I wake up in the middle of the night with heartburn and brain weird dreams of Trump and Congress singing Bohemian Rhapsody, and allusions to Congress as teenagers trying to perform as actors.

Goodnight all, pleasant dreams.

Rateria, Miri Islands

Skaveria wrote:It's a very unfortunate feedback loop. Past institutional racism lead to black people being disproportionately poor, which lead to crime and a criminal culture. The criminal culture lead to the perception and stereotype of black people as criminals, which lead to overpolicing, which lead to more encounters with police, which then, in turn, reaffirmed the existing stereotype.

It'd be a mistake, however, to just unilaterally remove vast quantities of police from black neighborhoods. We tried that in the 1980s. There were certain areas police literally wouldn't go to because they were warzones and too dangerous. The only thing we could really do is end the war on drugs, beyond that, the solution to the relationship between black people and police has to come from within the black community, that criminal culture needs to be broken.

Reforming/abolishing welfare would help a lot, too.

Miencraft

Pevvania wrote:Reforming/abolishing welfare would help a lot, too.

I agree, ideally welfare needs to be abolished, but I could also settle for replacing EBT with food crates and making recipients pass a drug test to get benefits.

If you can afford bomb ass weed, then it's not really about you not having money to survive, is it? It's about you having piss-poor priorities.

Skaveria wrote:I agree, ideally welfare needs to be abolished, but I could also settle for replacing EBT with food crates and making recipients pass a drug test to get benefits.

If you can afford bomb ass weed, then it's not really about you not having money to survive, is it? It's about you having piss-poor priorities.

Or just abolish all Federal programs and return to county/municipal indigence boards. The plus was they were generally from the same communities and able to evaluate on character and merit of the people in which they were serving. They were better able to weed out those who were gaming the system. Many could issue scrips from donation dollars for purchase at participating businesses for basic goods and services. They would also refer people to the food banks, charitable commissaries and contributing individuals, families, churches, and businesses that gave charity and help programs to get people back on their feet through job training and academic studies. Some were partially subsidized by their respective States/counties/municipalities and some were fully sufficient on charity alone.

The other plus is that in many cases they were not a part of the state or a government agency but a public utility/civic organization. A Statists flaw is they (Statists, and most forms of Socialism) cannot distinguish between the utility of the state, the government, and the public. In a Constitutional Republic, the People are the government and govern themselves apart from the state (little s) whereof the state has government services for its maintenance and upkeep apart from and not over the general population. The public utility (generic concept) is owned by the People directly, and never the state (little s) and is beholden through franchise to the constituency of smallest jurisdiction. Only the Legislative function, the Executive function, and the Judicial function are a part of the state. Police, Education, and everything else belong to the People and their States (big S) which are to follow the same pattern.

Before LBJ's Great Society farce to get the Black vote and move people onto their Welfare and Housing Project Plantations, the (demographic category back then) of "Negro" had better statistics of societal cohesion and were no more or less nominally worse off than the general population of like demographic (especially when one removes the demographics the Democrat and Progressivist elite strongholds, the well-to-do Progressivist academicians, and their political institute lackeys -- Boston, Cambridge, Baltimore, et al). Before the Statist had their way, there were no Federal/State Departments of Welfare (a misnomer for the state providing specific charity to its chosen few under the guise and lie of general welfare). There was only the assurance that in liberty, hard work and perseverance, one would thrive. Nobody starved to death in the US since the Civil war, nor during the great depression. There was only the goodwill of other families, communities, churches/charities, and businesses to succeed, not the servile dependence upon a state paycheck to remain in the underclass.

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Sometimes I understand the perception that Libertarians are disconnected from the working class. The LP in my state doesn't hold a vote for the primary; they caucus. I understand that a party has the right to primary however they want, but it makes me completely uninterested. No, I'm not showing up to your stupid caucus on the other side of the state and paying a fee just to have my voice heard; I gotta go to work.

What makes it worse is that my state has closed primaries. I'm a member of the LP rather than an independent because I want to represent the cause and I think adding my name to the number of registered LP is a good way to do it, but it leaves me perpetually not voting in any primary judt because they wanna choose their candidate in this dumb, antiquated, way. I'd happily vote for Gabbard or Yang, just because I want the best possible choices to lead the country next November, but I can't even do that.

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:
Skaveria wrote:

The cheesy bois do primaries right

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Venomringo wrote:“Tough on crime” is a nice euphemism for “over policing black neighborhoods.”

Maybe if your blacks would stop committing so many crimes they wouldn't have to be policed so much ;)

Luxemborglo

Kongeriget Island wrote:Maybe if your blacks would stop committing so many crimes they wouldn't have to be policed so much ;)

Why are you so smug about being so stupid

Miencraft, Rateria, Venomringo, Articles Of Confederation Usa

Kongeriget Island wrote:Maybe if your blacks would stop committing so many crimes they wouldn't have to be policed so much ;)

Jadentopian Order wrote:Why are you so smug about being so stupid

Am I missing something here?

Luxemborglo

Narland wrote:Am I missing something here?

Nah he's just overreacting to a completely logical conclusion of mine

Narland wrote:Am I missing something here?

Lib is just stupid.

Kongeriget Island wrote:Nah he's just overreacting to a completely logical conclusion of mine

That's like if I got the flu and you said "Well maybe if you just stopped having a fever..."

Rateria, Articles Of Confederation Usa

Lol. I think I got it. One asserts that society is the underlying problem the other that individual criminal behaviour is the underlying problem.

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Jadentopian Order wrote:Lib is just stupid.

That's like if I got the flu and you said "Well maybe if you just stopped having a fever..."

Well, strictly speaking, the only way to break the cycle is for the black crime rate to drop in a significant enough way that it renders the stereotype completly devoid of any resemblance to reality. The reason stereotypes persist is when they have a grain of truth in them.

Me saying that, however, is NOT me saying that black people by nature have a proclivity towards criminality. Various historical and social misfortunes are responsible for that.

It's simply a truism that, in the United States, black people are responsible for a disproportionate amount of violent crime, but it's also important to recognize that it's not entirely, or perhaps mostly, their own fault. In this way we can understand every day prejudices, like moving to the other side of the street when approaching several black youths, as being not wholly malicious.

Imagine it this way, you have a friend with severe bipolar disorder, he's prone to violence. You understand that he didn't choose this condition, but all the same, you logically decide to exercise some extra caution around him. It's not prejudice, it's just understanding the reality of the situation.

I conduct myself differently in my hometown if I'm on MLK boulevard, Florida Street, or the Danial Brooks projects. A white dude walking in those areas is lible to get messed with. I refuse to pretend I don't know the reality of my situation, that's stupid and would get me stabbed.

Miri Islands

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It used to be that he who defined the terms wins the debate. With the march through the institution nearly complete, defining the terms is the debate.

1. racist according to the right: someone who inexcusably holds that one race is inherently superior to all others, usually the race that person was born into.

2. racist according to the left: anyone who inexcusably points out facts or opinions regarding a certain demographic of people deemed undiscussable for political purposes.

3. racist according to lunatics: anyone who disagrees with you.

1. race according to the right: a closely related group of families having a large enough population to have their own set of customs, mores, and borders, and whose body politic separate them from others of the same. An accepted political fiction encompassing a particular culture or demographic generally determined by anthropologists, but more often than not by politicians.

2. race according to the left: a group of people having genotypical and/or phenotybical attributes that distinguish them from the rest of society. An embraced political fiction encompassing a social demographic of humans determined mostly by politicians for engineering purposes.

3. race according to lunatics: a skin condition from which one cannot escape that determines one's lot in life and one's worth to society by their intersectionality.

1. stereotype according to the right: a set of observations usually used for artistic purposes to quickly identify a certain demographic by fairly accurate generalization (e.g., portraying cowboys wearing cowboy hats).

2. stereotype according to left: a word deliberately conflated with the meaning of caricature to shame others into not using stereotypes as a form of communication. (e.g. portraying cowboys still wearing their cowboy hats and pistols while taking baths in tin tubs)

3. stereotype according to lunatics: any set of observations whether specifically accurate, generally accurate, or exaggerated used by racists (see Racist definition 3.) (e.g. Cowboys are racist, bigoted homophobe Trump supporters whose cattle contribute to climate crises.)

Islands, Miri Islands

Orange Man Bad, Act III (Congressional Impeachment Hearings)

Narland left to the concession stand for an overpriced box of gobsmackers, ended up flirting with the sales clerk and missed the entire third act.

Rateria

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:Nvm, its already been done.

Yeah stop with the silly Star Wars references or whatever

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:"greedy Jew"

You're friend being a manic depressive (a fact) is not the same as (or similar to) the assumption that every black person you come across is a violent criminal.Nah, it's rather revolting actually.

I wasn't reffering to the assumption that every black person is a violent criminal. That's obviously untrue. I'm just pointing out that when a particular population is shown to commit a higher percentage of the violent crime, it's not inherently hateful to avoid that group.

Miri Islands

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:For the record:

Lib is still my favorite Icelander.

Do you even know any others?

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:Some commies and your mom.

That should be the name of a punk band

Miencraft, Narland, Rateria

Kongeriget Island wrote:Do you even know any others?

karl stefansson

Miencraft, Islands, Rateria

The United States Of Patriots wrote:karl stefansson

Magnus Scheving

Rateria

Kongeriget Island wrote:Yeah stop with the silly Star Wars references or whatever

So uncivilized, from my point of view the Star Wars quotes aren't silly.

Miencraft, Rateria, Highway Eighty-Eight

The United States Of Patriots wrote:karl stefansson

He is number one after all

Islands wrote:He is number one after all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9XjT9qApDA

Islands

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Buh-bye Comrade :)

Orange Man Bad, Act IV (Congressional Impeachment Hearings)

Narland is bored to tears. An unimaginative repeat of Acts I & II. Narland heads for the exit, but notices some darned fool has chained the doors shut.

Then he notices that this is a production with as many acts as it takes to get accolades from the audience! Narland groans and returns to his seat.

It is a good thing that Narland brought a copy of the original play (Constitution) and the playwrights' notes (Federalist Papers, Proceedings of the Constitutional Convention, etc.) to read as he ignores the Show Runners, Stage Setters and Actors wasting their captive audience's time with their unconventional re-imaginings.

Rateria

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