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Region: Libertatem
Post self-deleted by Miksii.
Please gaysplain this to an Icelander who lived in Denmark aka me
I have my problems with social democracy or democratic socialism (its not socialism) that I could air out in a long winded essay, but you know, Im not going to pick a fight with one of the only other people in this region with enough guts to even say that Marx had some good ideas.
Miksii
Post by Highway Eighty-Eight suppressed by a moderator.
Post self-deleted by Miksii.
I got a semester, but I've also had political theory, American Politics, Comparative Politics, Intro to Philosophy, and Intro to Ethics, FAR from an expert on any of those topics, but it's fair enough to say the only reason one would come out of those with a positive view of Marx is because of ideologue professors.
The standard view in those classes in terms of economics is "Marx was basically right, but people were too mean about it, oh and also, that, plus colonialism." College manufactures SocDems. Even a Liberal will find themselves on defense, let alone a Libertarian or a Conservative.
In fact, I think the ONLY economically right-wing professor I've had, was in my Economics class.
Narland, Vichtander, The New Icelandic Commonwealth
Post self-deleted by Miksii.
Haven't taken it, will probably end up being an elective in one of my last 2 years at college.
Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I'm almost inclined to agree.
I also had a right-wing Econ professor, but it was right wing in the sense that he was just a free-market liberal type. I've had maybe one professor who I would say is left leaning, but honestly I'm not sure it really affected his teaching. Most of the bias in college is just boring slight center-left stuff that most people just look through. My first semester, my history professor was this pretty old guy who was an expert on the Nazis. Someone in my class tried to accuse him of being a "radical leftist paid off by Soros" because he said Hitler deserved a worse death lol.
It's a false coorilation. If the education system itself has a left-wing bias, then obviously when folks go through it, there will be a preponderance of left-wingers. You can't just tweak the education system to the left, then when college graduates turn out left, claim it's because they're educated. It's circular reasoning to the upmost.
"Educated folks are left-wing, they're left-wing because they're educated, education is left-wing, because educated folks run it."
Narland, The New Icelandic Commonwealth
Post self-deleted by Miksii.
Honestly how can people claim that the upper education system is not biased it's so painfully obvious to people with one critically thinking brain cell
Narland, Skaveria
Whoever got the mods involved is one awesome person. I love you.
Vichtander, The New Icelandic Commonwealth
Post self-deleted by Miksii.
I wasnt aware that satirizing outside views of this region was against the rules, but Ill accept the label of trolling, for no other reason than that Im an ugly boy.
Also, a mod has told me that I have an extensive history of rule breaking across accounts, but I am not aware of any serious rule breaking Ive done in the last two years. Actually, tbh, Im pretty sure that I have repeatedly been assaulted by moderation over the last two years, and each and every time, they ended up reversing their actions when it was shown that I had previously been given the go-ahead to do something by other mods, high-profile cases of uneven enforcement of rules, or, in two cases, when they couldnt recall any reason why they deleted my nation. (Yes, they deleted my nation without giving reason, and after inquiring about the matter, was told they didnt know why it happened and restored it). Given these facts, I think I have genuine reason to distrust moderation.
Narland, Auxorii, Rateria, Skaveria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth
I also like how the mods just suppressed all my posts over the last few weeks instead of honestly reviewing whether they were trolling or not. Clearly it was about trolling, or they wouldnt have suppressed completely relevant and innocuous quotes from two weeks ago
Narland, Auxorii, Rateria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth
I dont see how libertarians uniting with authoritarians is at all beneficial to libertarianism, especially in a time when libertarians should be presenting themselves as a serious option and not just another unprincipled gang of corrupt bastards.
Totally trolling.
Narland, Auxorii, Rateria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth
I havent looked back far enough, but I wouldnt doubt it if this particular mod had suppressed all of my posts.
Narland, Auxorii, Rateria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth
Libertatem supports Highway Eighty-Eight.
Just as we did Tupolite.
Narland, Rateria, Skaveria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth
The proletariat (/ˌproʊlɪˈtɛəriət/ from Latin proletarius 'producing offspring') is the social class of wage-earners, those members of a society whose only possession of significant economic value is their labour power (their capacity to work).
Post self-deleted by Miksii.
FREE WIL
Auxorii, Vichtander, Rateria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth, Highway Eighty-Eight
What worker in the United States, Oceania or western Europe exclusively owns their labour?
I would point you to the socialist countries of China, Cuba and the like in order to find those exploited workers. They dont exist here.
Post self-deleted by Miksii.
Thrice-Deleted and Thrice-Restored Wilhelm
Narland, Auxorii, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Jadentopian Order
Post self-deleted by Miksii.
Why are you a social democrat? Have you ever lived in a social democracy? Do you know how they function for the average citizen? Or are you just talking out of your ass about things about which you know nothing because you just hate people that are more successful than you and don't want to admit it?
Lib being a Libertarian
The New Icelandic Commonwealth
Every time with this mf💀💀💀
Auxorii
Yes because the problem is you look at these systems with rose-coloured glasses when really you don't know anything about it
Auxorii
Well this pandemic and the government's actions have changed my opinions a lot
Narland, The United States Of Patriots
And again, workers in the United States and the western world make money, own property, etcetera. If you are poor for your entire life in the western world, then you are bad with money.
Social democracy, communism - there is no difference. First of all these Nordic countries are not socialist in any way, but are pretty free market capitalist. Secondly, the only difference between social democracy and communism is the extent. Social democracy will allow for the wearing away of decent values as well as chip away at free enterprise
Narland, Vichtander, The New Icelandic Commonwealth
Its just funny that you say that every time
Doesn't mean it isn't true
Narland
I know you never said the education system was in itself biased; I said that, because it is. Of course it depends on WHICH education system we're talking about.
Public high schools push kids towards the center because their trying to thwart radicalism. Most kids will be Neo-Liberal or Neo-Conservative after high school.
College however, is a different ballgame. In college there are classes that are inherently political. Critical theory in regards to race and gender is a class one can take as if it's just a neutral philosophy. Critical theory is an argument, one that has counter-arguments, but those aren't taught as classes.
Leaving that aside, you're right that a professor being left-wing isn't inherently some sort of crazy Soros conspiracy theory, but, as I mentioned before, these classes aren't just general education. I don't care about a Communist math teacher. I care about a Communist political theory teacher. College students develop their political identity in these classes, and are at the age where they'remost susceptible to propaganda, 18-20.
Biases come out in numerous ways. Professors, especially tenured professors, are given flexibility in how they teach the curriculum. If there are two lessons that teach the same basic concept, but one happens to shine a bright light on that professors ideological proclivity, they may choose that lesson without even thinking about it.
It's harder to articulate without it happening right in front of me, but it's subtle at times. The stress on certain syllables, the nodding of the head and smiling at certain times. How a certain idea is being presented. These things tend to encourage left-leaning students to speak more, while right-leaning students stay silent to avoid judgement from their peers.
So I suppose there's two pieces of evidence for you, one strong and one weak. The teaching of Critical Theory as if there's no counter-argument, and the overall dimming of Right-leaning students engagement, although there's no way to prove nor quantify that, it being a "lived experience" (which is just a fancy way of saying annecdote by the way.)
Narland, Vichtander, The New Icelandic Commonwealth
FROM THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY:
Happy Thanksgiving all, be safe and healthy and give lots of thanks.
🙏🏼🇺🇸🦃
Narland, Kumquat Cove, Vichtander, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, The Lamia
Post by The States Of Balloon suppressed by a moderator.
Happy US Thanksgiving everybody!
It is good to give thanks and to be grateful for the good things we have in life. Good family, a few close friends, and some gratitude is what helps make life matter.
A nephew's family in the Neo-Marxist Utopia of Oregon has a sign up in front of their house: Mostly Peaceful Protest in Session. Personally, I don't think they are fooling anyone, unless they accidentally burn down the house trying to cook the turkey.
"Fiery, but mostly peaceful Thanksgiving"
Miencraft, Narland
Board is so quiet... Everyone banned?
Auxorii
No...
Auxorii
I've been occupied with Christmas shopping and finals
Auxorii
Wow, a mod seems to be taking an unusual interest in our little isolated corner of nationstates.
It would be such a shame if they realized that the entire region is just a troll and they suppressed it...
*Spam, more spam, and some trolling on an RMB of a region that really doesnt care and would love it if the mods left them alone*
Miencraft, Narland, Auxorii, Rateria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth, Miri Islands
Why is it that libertarians tend to hate mods?
Narland, Rateria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth
Because mods seem to hate us.
Miencraft, Narland, Auxorii, Rateria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth, Highway Eighty-Eight, Nosam Republic, Miri Islands
Mods are little Hitlers, especially Miencraft.
Its probably because this is a Jewish region... they might not like its Jewish-ness. Antisemites everywhere.
Of course, maybe Im wrong and they just send bogus lies and threats to every region and suppress random posts on all regional message boards...
Miencraft, Narland, Rateria
Blame the JOOOS
Miencraft, Rateria, Highway Eighty-Eight, Miri Islands
Y'all still in a pandemic? I'm in a bandemic fr
Auxorii, Rateria, Highway Eighty-Eight
either way it's a scamdemic
Narland, Miri Islands
We all know it was a plannedemic
Narland, Kumquat Cove, The New Icelandic Commonwealth, Miri Islands
Are moderators really just refreshing our RMB in order to find things they can deem suppressable? Is there really nothing better for NationStates mods to do? Get a life, guys.
Read this again, mods.
Narland, Rateria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth
I'm 90% sure I've posted more edgy things than Wilhelm and I've never been suspended. Idk why mods mess with him so much
Auxorii, Rateria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth
Post by The States Of Balloon suppressed by a moderator.
I got warned once and Venom got banned for posting a Misley x Condealism fanfic.
Auxorii, Vichtander, Rateria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth, Highway Eighty-Eight
Because they are anti-Semitic racists, probably. Pan-flutes are some weird things man, we should go build one with the new nails we bought the other day.
Auxorii, Rateria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth
Because free speech
Miencraft, Narland, Auxorii, Rateria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth, Nosam Republic
My first account ever was banned for saying (quite literally) 'sh1t'.
Thats how it B sometimes.
Rateria
Weird. Ive written stuff like:
Pus$y, c0ck, d!ck, ¢unt, fu¢k, @ss, @$$hole, etc.
Ive never been deleted for that as far as I can remember?
Auxorii, Rateria
The ban hammer knows no mercy
Narland, Auxorii, Rateria, Jadentopian Order, Nosam Republic
Post self-deleted by Miksii.
Wow, Barr found no evidence of voter fraud. I am personally very shocked and dismayed. Who could have seen this coming?
Auxorii, Rateria, Miksii
You were welcome here, but if you are just going to hop around NS only to come back here to spam irrelevant garbage about some celebrity nobody cares about, please leave.
I also cant help but think you thought you were doing something by posting that here - all it did was confirm what we suspected about you. Youre annoying.
Vichtander, The New Icelandic Commonwealth
Who?
Narland, Auxorii
ok
Auxorii, The New Icelandic Commonwealth
Just some broad.
Post self-deleted by Miksii.
Post self-deleted by Miksii.
I am going to be honest, I have never heard of that show. I am assuming show?
After a google search I can confirm it is apparently a show
Auxorii
I dont see why we should care. Shes a celebrity who makes more money than either of us ever will - there is no act of bravery involved in anything she did or said.
Whats ironic is that its opposite - in the Western world its brave to support traditional values. How many people have been cancelled for doing so? Incalculable. Give me a celebrity that has been cancelled for being transgender. They receive applause and awards for going along with mainstream liberal hollywood.
Miencraft, Vichtander, The New Icelandic Commonwealth
After watching the trailer I now seem to recall my mother talking to me about the show.
The premise seems interesting, I don't know if I would like watching the show myself though. I am not big on the whole, dysfunctional quasi-family, edgy counter-culture but not really, schtick.
I don't think I am its target audience anyways though
I would really like to see the hate crime statistics against straight guys. It was what, 4 years ago that Pulse got shot up? Many states still allow the gay and trans panic defenses.
This is just in America, which is considered to be pretty accepting of LGBT+ people in most areas. I dont think I really need to tell you how they are treated in places like the Middle East.
Rateria, Miksii
I didnt vote for Biden, but its been really entertaining to watch Trump meltdown these past weeks. STOP THE COUNT! was one of those moments Ill remember for a long time
Post self-deleted by Miksii.
Post self-deleted by Miksii.
I don't think radical Islamic Terrorism is a good example to give of hate crimes against lgbt people in America. It isn't broadly reflective of American society.
Miencraft, Auxorii
Post self-deleted by Miksii.
Yeah I remember how the Democrats gracefully aceppted the loss in 16
Narland
Post self-deleted by Miksii.
I like how you dont respond to my points and instead just say vague things like 9.9 times out of ten and not actually explaining how traditional values are authoritarian
Miencraft, The New Icelandic Commonwealth
Post self-deleted by Miksii.
"Your son said some pretty nasty stuff...he said 'i dont think Caitlyn Jenner is a hero.'" PC Principal
Miencraft, Narland, Auxorii, Highway Eighty-Eight
Authoritarianism concerns the state. People can have values as traditional as they want without enforcing it on anyone else.
As for gay adoption, have you ever considered that its necessary for a child to grow up with both a mother and father figure? The failed glorification of single parenthood by the left has demonstrated this in the failed communities they run.
As for masculinity, define toxic masculinity. Id probably be considered masculine by most and I like those qualities about myself - its probably how I got a girlfriend. What you consider toxic is attractive to others, or isnt taken as toxic at the least, so get off of your pedestool and quit acting like your opinion is the only valid one.
Misgendering is actually what youre doing. Ellen Page is biologically a woman.
What many legal challenges are there for transgenders? Ill agree with you that transgenders should be able to serve in the military (though we shouldnt pay for their sex reassignment) in full capacity but I dont think the ban stemmed from transphobia.
Almost no representation in media? Transgenders make up less than 1% of the population, so if transgenders make up more than 1% (or even equal to) of a certain media than that would actually be an overrepresentation. Something you identitarians should resent, as it wouldnt be fair to the representation of the other demographics, no? There is also no law anywhere prohibiting transgenders from using the bathroom they choose on public property.
Or maybe we should just qualify people based off of their individuality and not the groups they belong to.
I think most of those disadvantages are rooted in class, rather than exclusively their gender. Also, whatever the hate crime statistics are, in the Western world crime is low and is only lowering further. Of course, I am all against hate crime and treating people differently because of their orientation or claimed gender, but am I going to say a celebrity is brave when transgenders are constantly touted by the Western media? No.
I completely can agree with your point on the Middle East.
Narland, Vichtander, The New Icelandic Commonwealth
I, for one, will note that Ellen/ Elliott Page identifying as a man has had zero impact on my life, doesn't matter to me what other people do as long as it's not negatively affecting others. I assumed that would be universal in a libertarian region
Miencraft, Auxorii, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Jadentopian Order, The New Icelandic Commonwealth
Lol the Democrats economic agenda is more left wing than that of the social democrats here in the Nordic utopia of Iceland.
Narland, Auxorii, The United States Of Patriots, Nosam Republic
*Random celebrity Ive never heard of does something that has literally nothing to do with character and no real negative consequences*
*Instantly gets put on a pedestal by the media*
*Im wrong and a snowflake for not caring whatsoever and not considering them a hero*
Miencraft, Narland, Auxorii, Vichtander, The United States Of Patriots, The New Icelandic Commonwealth
Leftists suck at
The New Icelandic Commonwealth
This just in:
Libertarians are apparently incapable of possessing morals, religion, or opinions because thats authoritarian.
Miencraft, Narland, Auxorii, The United States Of Patriots, The New Icelandic Commonwealth
Yeah, have you lived in America? :/
Auxorii, Rateria
So we had 4 years of muh Russia, piss dossier, impeachment over a phonecall, obstruction on every level and endless KGB style investigation into every aspect of Trumps life to remove him from office but when we want an election with obvious red flags investigated its: "lol, you lost move on, nothing to see here". Right, IM the snowflake
Miencraft, Narland, Auxorii, The New Icelandic Commonwealth
But... orange man bad?
Miencraft, Narland, Vichtander, The United States Of Patriots, The New Icelandic Commonwealth, Miri Islands
I just wanna take the time to say that Trump sucks. Those who agree can jack me off. Those who disagree can go get jacked up with Trump Jr.
Shallowell, Auxorii, Rateria, Jadentopian Order
Every election has irregularities.
What's mad sus about this one is the people insisting that somehow, uniquely, this election is the one that's airtight and has zero flaws whatsoever.
Almost like there is something wrong with it and they're trying as hard as they can to sweep it under the rug...
Narland, Auxorii, Vichtander, The United States Of Patriots, The New Icelandic Commonwealth, Miri Islands
Imagine coming to a region and telling the members what they can, cant, and do believe, declaring that they are authoritarians and fake libertarians, getting mods involved when people say things you dont like, insulting members and calling them snowflakes, spamming their RMB, and then leaving....
God darny, thatter be some big enlightened dude, maybe we shud all change our ways before we got a GCR invasion on our here hands.
Miencraft, Narland, Auxorii, Vichtander, The United States Of Patriots, The New Icelandic Commonwealth, Miri Islands
FROM THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY
A new poll has been posted on whether Libertatem should have another recruiting drive. Do you believe our region is perfect as is, or would you rather more activity on the NS side of things concerning WA involvement, regional politics, etcetera?
Let your thoughts be known. Vote.
Rateria
free my boy
Auxorii
Libertine =/= Libertarian but, admittedly, it should. Please be my boyfriend.
~ Willy, Former President and Autocrat of Libertatem
Have any of you eaten Rottweiler sausages? Hit me up over discord and Ill send you my recipe. If youre within driving distance, Ill deliver you actual sausages made from the meat of local dogs.
Narland, Auxorii, Vichtander
everything
Narland
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