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Pevvania wrote:Ok, gotcha.

GID is in the ACPL also.

Pev.

Not rushing but. Appeals court status?

Albenia wrote:Pev.

Not rushing but. Appeals court status?

I'll start drafting the bill now. It's been a busy, hectic week for me.

Pevvania wrote:I'll start drafting the bill now. It's been a busy, hectic week for me.

Ah. Okay no problem.

What you have going on?

Albenia wrote:Ah. Okay no problem.

What you have going on?

Exams.

Pevvania wrote:Exams.

Ah man. I feel ya.

What grade are you in 12th?

Albenia wrote:Ah man. I feel ya.

What grade are you in 12th?

I'm in college.

Pevvania wrote:I'm in college.

Okay then.

What degree are you going for?

The Amarican Empire wrote:Yes i did, remember it was a threesome........

if you know what I mean...

The Orvelecan Diplomat wrote:So, how y'all doing?

Swell, thanks. And you?

I'm doing alright. What's been happening in the region?

Crass jokes. Basically just crass jokes.

Albenia wrote:Okay then.

What degree are you going for?

It's a different system in the UK. We do A-levels in college and then degrees at university, but I am not very interested in going there.

The Orvelecan Diplomat wrote:I'm doing alright. What's been happening in the region?

Hello there. Nothing much, actually. I won re-election by a landslide, we played an RP that was surprisingly well-constructed and Board Elections are ongoing.

I have decided to Re-found the DRP after it merged with the Democratic-Socialist Party in the CFN. I decided the DSP didn't suit the Centrist needs of the old Party so I am going to bring it back under a new modern policy.

Here it is: http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_time_alliance/detail=factbook/id=260651

Albenia wrote:I have decided to Re-found the DRP after it merged with the Democratic-Socialist Party in the CFN. I decided the DSP didn't suit the Centrist needs of the old Party so I am going to bring it back under a new modern policy.

Here it is: http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_time_alliance/detail=factbook/id=260651

Do the people here really care?

Pevvania wrote:Hello there. Nothing much, actually. I won re-election by a landslide, we played an RP that was surprisingly well-constructed and Board Elections are ongoing.

1. Congratulations in your victory.

2. A well-made RP? What is this blasphemy?

The Orvelecan Diplomat wrote:Do the people here really care?

1. Congratulations in your victory.

2. A well-made RP? What is this blasphemy?

I'd hope so.

I was the leader of The DRP when it was a thing in this region.

The DRP was in fact one of the Major Opposition parties despite it's small size of four members at one point.

Albenia wrote:I'd hope so.

I was the leader of The DRP when it was a thing in this region.

The DRP was in fact one of the Major Opposition parties despite it's small size of four members at one point.

Emphasis on "was". CFN political parties really have no bearing on people here.

How is it Centrist, The Democratic Republican Party seems pretty leftist to me.

The Amarican Empire wrote:How is it Centrist, The Democratic Republican Party seems pretty leftist to me.

That too.

The Orvelecan Diplomat wrote:Emphasis on "was". CFN political parties really have no bearing on people here.

Well remember I might be coming back here soon....sooooo Yeah.

The Amarican Empire wrote:How is it Centrist, The Democratic Republican Party seems pretty leftist to me.

Left-Centre is still Centrist. I'm trying to keep it Left-Centre Libertarian, but with some more Right wing economic policies.

Albenia wrote:Left-Centre is still Centrist.

No it's not. It's left. You're saying the Democratic Party and the Labour Party are both centrist.

The Orvelecan Diplomat wrote:No it's not. It's left. You're saying the Democratic Party and the Labour Party are both centrist.

It is a form of Centrism.

Centrism

Third Way

Left-Centre

Right-Center

it's Centrist.

Albenia wrote:It is a form of Centrism.

Centrism

Third Way

Left-Centre

Right-Center

it's Centrist.

It is right- or left-wing but close to the centre. Big difference.

The Orvelecan Diplomat wrote:It is right- or left-wing but close to the centre. Big difference.

No.

In politics, centrism or the centre describes a political outlook or specific position that involves acceptance or support of a balance of a degree of social equality and a degree of social hierarchy or social inequality; whilst opposing political changes which would result in a significant shift of society either strongly to the left or the right. Centre left and centre right politics both involve a general association with centrism combined while leaning somewhat to their respective sides of the spectrum

Albenia wrote:No.

In politics, centrism or the centre describes a political outlook or specific position that involves acceptance or support of a balance of a degree of social equality and a degree of social hierarchy or social inequality; whilst opposing political changes which would result in a significant shift of society either strongly to the left or the right. Centre left and centre right politics both involve a general association with centrism combined while leaning somewhat to their respective sides of the spectrum

I don't even care any more. You keep your opinion, I keep mine. I need to focus on this bar up top.

Post self-deleted by The Amarican Empire.

Its fine, TDRP is a puppet party, TTA has not voting rights and is not able to run in elections Atm because of his ban warrant. idk i might vote yea on him returning if he is good.

I've long lost any reason to hate TTA - and, even when in the face of these reasons, I did not hate him - but I still believe he is not to return. He lost his rights to citizenship, and has not done anything to reclaim them other than saying, (paraphrased), "Hi, I'm back, will you let me back in now?"

I have no opinion on whether he would be a worthwhile citizen again, but what I do have an opinion on is the concept of punishment. It was a stringent measure for a stringent time, but that does not change that he was guilty and still has a sentence to serve.

I would reconsider if he had something to offer us, but somehow I doubt that.

The Amarican Empire wrote:i might vote yea on him returning if he is good.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:I've long lost any reason to hate TTA - and, even when in the face of these reasons, I did not hate him - but I still believe he is not to return. He lost his rights to citizenship, and has not done anything to reclaim them other than saying, (paraphrased), "Hi, I'm back, will you let me back in now?"

I have no opinion on whether he would be a worthwhile citizen again, but what I do have an opinion on is the concept of punishment. It was a stringent measure for a stringent time, but that does not change that he was guilty and still has a sentence to serve.

I would reconsider if he had something to offer us, but somehow I doubt that.

Something to offer?

.....*Goes to look for Password Protected Commie Regions*

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:I've long lost any reason to hate TTA - and, even when in the face of these reasons, I did not hate him - but I still believe he is not to return. He lost his rights to citizenship, and has not done anything to reclaim them other than saying, (paraphrased), "Hi, I'm back, will you let me back in now?"

I have no opinion on whether he would be a worthwhile citizen again, but what I do have an opinion on is the concept of punishment. It was a stringent measure for a stringent time, but that does not change that he was guilty and still has a sentence to serve.

I would reconsider if he had something to offer us, but somehow I doubt that.

How long is this sentence?

Post self-deleted by Albenia.

The Orvelecan Diplomat wrote:How long is this sentence?

Forever. Though, considering this is NationStates, it's not so much of a punishment when the guilty party eventually quits the game entirely.

Albenia wrote:Something to offer?

.....*Goes to look for Password Protected Commie Regions*

And no result....

The Orvelecan Diplomat wrote:How long is this sentence?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs6FgBec-nk

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Forever. Though, considering this is NationStates, it's not so much of a punishment when the guilty party eventually quits the game entirely.

And I was banned this way after responding poorly when I was Politically threatened by Pev to re-elect him.

I think I would vote yea on him returning, on the condition that he is barred from entry into offensive military operations.

The New United States wrote: I think I would vote yea on him returning, on the condition that he is barred from entry into offensive military operations.

...

Fine by me....I've become Anti-Military Intervention as of late anyways so yay!

And by the looks of it I wasted my time: http://www.nationstates.net/region=communist_beach

All I got out of it was Respect from UCR...

Barred from entry? I'd vote yea if he were conscripted - that way he'd have something to offer us - but that would be unethical.

Albenia wrote:And by the looks of it I wasted my time: http://www.nationstates.net/region=communist_beach

All I got out of it was Respect from UCR...

Sounds like you've got a region you have a history with that would still accept you. Of course, if you're like me, you wouldn't accept that.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Sounds like you've got a region you have a history with that would still accept you. Of course, if you're like me, you wouldn't accept that.

Hey now...Let's not do that hitting below the belt.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Sounds like you've got a region you have a history with that would still accept you.

I will have you know I have had history with 2 other regions

Islam (Rather Inactive)

And CFN which accept me perfectly fine

Hmm, true. Regardless, here's some friendly advice: they look like they're the most active of the three, and they'd give you a hero's welcome for sticking it to we "capitalist pigs". Just something to consider.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Hmm, true. Regardless, here's some friendly advice: they look like they're the most active of the three, and they'd give you a hero's welcome for sticking it to we "capitalist pigs". Just something to consider.

I beg your pardon? The CFN is plenty active.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Hmm, true. Regardless, here's some friendly advice: they look like they're the most active of the three, and they'd give you a hero's welcome for sticking it to we "capitalist pigs". Just something to consider.

CFN is plenty act---

And ninja'd

The Orvelecan Diplomat wrote:I beg your pardon? The CFN is plenty active.

Y'all made UCR News By the Way.

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The Communist Bloc: We had a diplomat from that region come a few weeks ago, and after researching their history. I've deemed them unfit for relations. They have sent a mission to Libertatem, which means we aren't going to have anything to do with them. They also shouldn't have the right to have a Communist or even a Socialist tag because they are a complete mockery of Marxist and leftist ideal mainly because they do not represent the ideology they claim to be. They should have a tag titled, "We're really Capitalists role playing and mocking all leftist ideals". That region is a joke.

Juche Union: I've sent a few letters to their delegate with little feedback highlighting a great concern of many- their standing relations with a Capitalist, anti-communist region (Libertatem). They have embassies and a Libertatem mission set up there with the populace supporting Libertatem through several polls. I feel disgusted and betrayed that our longest standing ally has treaded down the wrong path of Capitalist control. This standing embassy will be decided upon, as I have not finished talks with their delegate yet. It would be a shame to close them down but this is a major issue.

Also maybe even banned form running from office and from voting rights.

UCR is hitting a major Anti-Libertatem high apparently.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Also maybe even banned form running from office and from voting rights.

So a slave of the government?

Okay CFN...You win!

I noticed; I'm a resident of one of the regions they (rightfully) refused an embassy with.

Albenia wrote:UCR is hitting a major Anti-Libertatem high apparently.

Das Kommune too, if you couldn't tell by their attempt to undermine our diplomatic relations in The Communist Bloc. What kind of diplomat would try to handicap another's relations, especially in such a rude and obvious manner?

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Das Kommune too, if you couldn't tell by their attempt to undermine our diplomatic relations in The Communist Bloc. What kind of diplomat would try to handicap another's relations, especially in such a rude and obvious manner?

A bad one....

The Amarican Empire wrote:Also maybe even banned form running from office and from voting rights.

But see this ain't happening. I don't care how much I love this region. This is slavery.....

Well maybe just until August, to see of you don't act like you did before you were banned.

If you love this region so much, why won't you take responsibility for it?

We are all aware that our involvement in Communist Beach was a mistake - our armed forces should never have set foot there. But we took responsibility for that mistake, and did all we could to make up for it.

TTA, we gave you time to do the same when you attacked our armed forces. You denied the charges, demanded that your objection to our methods warranted an exception from the truth, and never once took responsibility for your actions. We gave you time, but you were adamant that you did the right thing, so adamant that you would not even notice the means by which you achieved that end.

Now you are serving your punishment, and I really hope you understand why. I can't say it'll help your case, but if you truly love this region, now would be the time to show it.

The means do not matter. All that matters is the end result.

I released my Apologies long ago.

You don't seem to understand. I did the right thing. I refuse to apologise or revoke what I did when it was the right thing. I have a completely pure conscience.

Albenia wrote:The means do not matter. All that matters is the end result.

The ends justify the means, eh? I thought the same until a raid of my own went awry. But that is a story for another day.

Albenia wrote:The means do not matter. All that matters is the end result.

I released my Apologies long ago.

The means absolutely do matter.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:The ends justify the means, eh? I thought the same until a raid of my own went awry. But that is a story for another day.

That was the worst possible way I could've said that.

Let me think of a better way to say that.

The way I did it didn't have matter when discussing it.

I attempted to talk Minerva out of the raid and he refused.

I broke my Endorsement ofhim. He still had enough.

I returned to this region to discover that no one was helping CB at the time.

I returned to ensure that Minerva didn't lay claim to the region.

UCR joined me and I left back here before the time change.

Albenia wrote:The means do not matter. All that matters is the end result.

I released my Apologies long ago.

No, you didn't. You never regretted what you did.

Pevvania wrote:No, you didn't. You never regretted what you did.

I actually did. You may ask Humph

I did indeed. Although I don't regret what I did. I did regret how I did it.

An Announcement

With no insult here at all, I comment that the political system is a little....old. Old politicians, old policies, and old ideas. Perhaps people have become some what disillusioned by inactive board members. I am not new to politics, but I hope to be new to THE LIBERTATEM BOARD!

I want to be the Fresh piece on the Board, and am more active than, well, Humpy and Chris. (And that's saying alot...)

So, after receiving the Condealism blessing and consulting Pevvania, I would like to announce my campaign.

I WILL BE CHALLENGING [nation=GodisDead] and [nation=Ronald Reagan and Rick Grimes] in the RACE FOR SEAT 5!

THANK YOU: VOTE ANKHORA. We will be answering questions on the RMB and via TG. (We are excited and expecting to clear up ideological questions.)

-------------------------------------------------------- Paid for by Ankhora for Seat 5. ------------------------------------------------------------------

You got the blessing of Pev?

You are like god on earth now!

No, I got the blessing of CI and the approval of Pevv. Btw, Chris, catch the innuendo??

So you figured since Hallo and Ipian, 2 of your buddies, ran for a seat, you should too?

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:So you figured since Hallo and Ipian, 2 of your buddies, ran for a seat, you should too?

No I figured since you and Godisdead are the only people running for a seat, I cant in right mind let that happen......And I am neither a Pevv nor Hallo supporter. I am the fresh piece of Libertatem politics.

Ankhora wrote:No I figured since you and Godisdead are the only people running for a seat, I cant in right mind let that happen......And I am neither a Pevv nor Hallo supporter. I am the fresh piece of Libertatem politics.

Interesting. I look forward to the election.

Great, thanks Ipian. I look forward to the seat 3 results also.

Ankhora wrote:An Announcement

With no insult here at all, I comment that the political system is a little....old. Old politicians, old policies, and old ideas. Perhaps people have become some what disillusioned by inactive board members. I am not new to politics, but I hope to be new to THE LIBERTATEM BOARD!

I want to be the Fresh piece on the Board, and am more active than, well, Humpy and Chris. (And that's saying alot...)

So, after receiving the Condealism blessing and consulting Pevvania, I would like to announce my campaign.

I WILL BE CHALLENGING [nation=GodisDead] and [nation=Ronald Reagan and Rick Grimes] in the RACE FOR SEAT 5!

THANK YOU: VOTE ANKHORA. We will be answering questions on the RMB and via TG. (We are excited and expecting to clear up ideological questions.)

-------------------------------------------------------- Paid for by Ankhora for Seat 5. ------------------------------------------------------------------

Ankhora wrote:Great, thanks Ipian. I look forward to the seat 3 results also.

Having a Communist would be interesting. I think I will vote for you.

Ipian wrote:Having a Communist would be interesting. I think I will vote for you.

I still plan to represent the people in this region, regardless of personal bias, but I will not abandon my own views. But, I am not radical at all, and I am active, very active. Thanks for your vote.

Ankhora wrote:I still plan to represent the people in this region, regardless of personal bias, but I will not abandon my own views. But, I am not radical at all, and I am active, very active. Thanks for your vote.

A fair sentiment. Ankhora has my support for the Seat Five race.

Meanwhile, it appears Amarican is winning Seat Three.

Why don't we have a welcome telegram?

To clarify: I have not endorsed Ankhora as a candidate but I did recommend to him that he run, just to spice things up.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Why don't we have a welcome telegram?

We should do?

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:A fair sentiment. Ankhora has my support for the Seat Five race.

Meanwhile, it appears Amarican is winning Seat Three.

Thank you CI. Also, I see that. Humpy and Chris both on the board??!!

Pevvania wrote:We should do?

Just curious.

Pevvania wrote:To clarify: I have not endorsed Ankhora as a candidate but I did recommend to him that he run, just to spice things up.

Thats what I said. Chris said that part. I said you approved my running.

"and consulting Pevvania,"

Ankhora wrote:No I figured since you and Godisdead are the only people running for a seat, I cant in right mind let that happen......And I am neither a Pevv nor Hallo supporter. I am the fresh piece of Libertatem politics.

You're also a communist.

Ipian wrote:Having a Communist would be interesting. I think I will vote for you.

Why?

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:A fair sentiment. Ankhora has my support for the Seat Five race.

Meanwhile, it appears Amarican is winning Seat Three.

Why?

CI pls.

Because.

Variation.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:You're also a communist. And I embrace that and don't discriminate. I also am rather level-headed and would do my best to reflect the views of residents.

Why?

Because there is little to no political diversity here, although you promote it...

Why?

CI pls. Becasue CI likely has the residents best interests in mind.

I can attest to his organizational skills and ability to rationally represent the people; I've seen him in action. Besides, he's a friend of mine.

I don't mind the presence of benign Communists in the region, but I do not think I am open to them gaining political power of any kind.

My vote is still going to RRRG.

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The Minerva group? :P

Albenia wrote:#LibertarianDictatorship....

OXYMORON! Arrest this man!

Yes most people are Libertarian in the region, so by your logic all regions that have a communist majority are Communist Dictatorships?

The Amarican Empire wrote:Yes most people are Libertarian in the region, so by your logic all regions that have a communist majority are Communist Dictatorships?

A dictatorship would imply that there is no democracy.

"'Tyranny' of the majority" is more apt a label. :)

I ask Ankhora of his plans for the region should he win Seat 5 on the Board.

Also, vote Mien for Seat 4. I haven't seen Lone Star do much on the RMB since announcing his candidacy.

Miencraft wrote:I ask Ankhora of his plans for the region should he win Seat 5 on the Board.

Perhaps something more specific? Anyway, in a nutshell, Get other people involved, keep 1 more seat away from the RLP (They have WAY too much power), and try to stabilize the political influence scale as to shift more towards the common nation versus just up with Pevvania and Humpheria. I also would like to contribute a bit of a different opinion into discussion, and to provide a fresh standpoint on issues, as seen from my view. I would also like to see more activity on the board, as Mien just mentioned regarding Lone Star, and I am VERY active... If you wanted a more specific answer, Id love to answer it, but I just need to know your full question. Thanks again.

Also, vote Mien for Seat 4. I haven't seen Lone Star do much on the RMB since announcing his candidacy.

Ankhora wrote:

I you want to do your best to reflect the ideals of the residents, then why be a communist? That just doesn't make any sense. I promote diversity of the libertarian kind. I don't think simply because there is a lack of non libertarians in the government that is a bad thing. It shouldn't be, the region is LIBERTATEM, not some commie equal.

COMMUTATEM

Oh god. I don't think a communist is in the best interest of most residents here, mainly because, most resident are, how do you say, not communists. Duh.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:I can attest to his organizational skills and ability to rationally represent the people; I've seen him in action. Besides, he's a friend of mine.

Favoritism. Nice.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:I you want to do your best to reflect the ideals of the residents, then why be a communist? That just doesn't make any sense. I promote diversity of the libertarian kind. I don't think simply because there is a lack of non libertarians in the government that is a bad thing. It shouldn't be, the region is LIBERTATEM, not some commie equal.

Wow. Hostility here^ :P

Anyway, Don't we encourage political diversity. (However, apparently you aren't part of the we...) You do realize that there are other people here who don't perfectly adhere to your ideology, and that shouldn't make them inferior. I personally believe I am a strong promoter of Libertarianism. Also, I am active, don't spew crap, (insults, lies, NO BASE), when people oppose me, and I, as I said, want to increase the voice of other nations. I am very mild, not in personality, but yes in ideology and am not forcing anything on anyone, nor intend to. I am not gonna be the guy who prevents progress either. I am planning to be a democratic leader who can decisively show that I represent the people of Libertatem. Isnt that the job of the Board?!

RRG, think about your motivation before you talk..Please.

Oh god. I don't think a communist is in the best interest of most residents here, mainly because, most resident are, how do you say, not communists. Duh.

Favoritism. Nice.

No, just no.

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