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Region: Libertatem
I know. Go probation.
Since it's impossible to overthrow a founder, overthrowing the President is basically what we consider treason.
No one.
...Damn it.
*ONLY revolutions against Tyrants can be good.
Not every Revolution is though.
Its like saying an overthrowing the Feds would be treason!
Semantics.
Go check out the Constitution and the Presidents' Amendment. Unless Liberosia says Pev isn't executive, Pev is the executive. So, by your logic, Pev is the sovereign.
...So by those terms....
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SEE Not treason.
Plus, y'know, it's impossible to overthrow Liberosia anyways...
That's a crap argument because
Now I'm referring to another case.
Thats Glorious eternal leader to you, buddy. :D
"against one's... nation"
So, uh, yeah, it was.
It is. Overthrowing any form of the federal government is considered treason by the United States. He openly called for an enemy region to attack us, why are you using semantics and wordplay to let someone who attempted to overthrow the government become a citizen?
No TTA you turned on your fellow comrades in combat. that is an act of trason because you directly harmed the region.
Liberosia is Kim Jong?
Kill me now.
LOL.
It was not an of-
You knoq what. We'll handle this in court
He was ruled as such. He was found guilty of treasin and banned from the region. He is back on probation in an attempt to appeal.
Overthrowing the feds would not be treason, it would be an act of Patriotism. We the People are the Sovereign of the United States.
*cough*criminal dodge*cough* JK
We need a living wage, more regulations, and a greater centralized government.
According to the law of the United States, yes, it would be treason.
That is literally the farthest thing from relevance I could possibly fathom.
Blame your grandparents.
...therefore Terentuem should not be tried???
Exactly
(I think? )
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness- The Declaration of Independence.
Now that that is over i will continue to be the yes man of the RLP.
Then take him to trial on terrorism charges. Boom.
Being a Yes man is bad.
This isnt the US. This is Libertatem, We run off of Libertatems laws, not those of the United States of America. [nation=the law of libertatem] acquaint yourself with it people. *drops law book in front of Amarican*
You are correct and there are proper ways to do that. Asking our enemies to smite us is not one.
The Board has collected 3 votes in favor of a trial.
The government wouldn't even allow you to make your own unofficial businesses, houses, and transactions. If you buy the land you have to pay property tax.
The only way a group of "patriots" could successfully secede from the US is if they bought up a bunch of land, weapons, and then entered a Waco like scenario, except for the sole reason of sovereignty, eventually resulting in two scenarios: a.) the government kills everyone there or b.) the government allows these patriots to live uninterrupted.
*Reads laws*
OOOH we did pass the Appeals act.
Secession would be more viable than revolution, imo, and affect less people negatively.
All 50 States souls gather into groups and Secede.
That is also true. We just need to remember to conduct this matter fairly, and do everything as the law says. We arent doing "Im mad" Hes guilty. We need to use the law for this, for all legal matters. WE DONT USE THE US's laws. Remember that. We use the Laws of Libertatem.
Why triple quote?
Or Separate all 50 states each with their own government.
fine, i announce that i voted Yea for a trial. most of the people seem to be in favor of it.
"It is the People's Duty to Disobey Unjust laws."
As it is past Pev's bedtime in a different time zone. I, as Vice President and acting exceutive under the VEEP Act, authorize the defense and the prosecution (whoever would want to be prosecutor) to begin preparing arguments. The initiation of the trial will be up to the new Attorney General. Mr. Chairman, please organize the jury of six due to our recent low activity numbers.
Your say all that? And then vote yea?
*facepalm*
Triple emphasis.
Easy there Thoreau. Don't wanna find your freedom in a prison cell ;)
I believe you were looking for this:
"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." - Thomas Jefferson.
One of my good political quotes...
Its true. We need to look at this through a level-headed, just, unbiased standpoint. Thats what Im doing.
I don't think that was Thoreau
And so everyone knows, also under VEEP, when Pev wakes up if he decides to rescind this, anything the VP does, the President may change. But we have to wait for the new AG before we have a trial.
There you go
I dont think thats a real quote.
My opinion remains the same, but as i said in the campaign that got be elected in the first place, I will act with the people. the Majority want a trial.
Oh I thought he was referring to this:
If the machine of government is of such a nature that it requires you to be the agent of injustice to another, then, I say, break the law, Thoreau
The Board has voted 4 in favor and one not present to commence a Trial against the nation of Terentuem on the charges of Treason.
The Trial shall commence as soon as an Attorney General has been assigned and declares the trial to have begun.
Please note that the Regional Message Board will be unavailable for public discussion for the duration of the trial.
I will announce the names of the six Jurors shortly. If a name is called who does not wish to participate in the Jury, I will attempt to replace them if we have the appropriate numbers.
Prosecutor?
Oh, I just knew the one I wrote off the top of my head. I didnt know the Thoreau one.
I'm a fan of Thoreau. Even though he was a little wacko.
Yes.
THIS!
THIS is a man of the people.
He is correct. During a trial, the region stops and only Def., Pro., and Officials may post. As precedent-ed by the Alchandria Trial.
Vox populi!
I do it a thousand times and he does it once. Thanks, TTA. I love you too.
....Hehe
Love ya Humph
Ooh, can I be on this trial?
Mien: Anhka, and whoever volunteers to be prosecutor is not eligible for the jury. FYI.
You can be a prosecutor if you know the trial well enough or Mien can assign you to the jury.
Of course.
Yay!
Preferably I would like to be on the jury
The voice of the people indeed.
Aequitas Equitas est in omnes.
I do not wish to take part in the defense, but I can consult on either side, and will offer my opinion if asked or if necessary. If Mr. T does want my defense, I will offer it to him out of his rights to lawyer, and because I plan to use the fact that I am somewhat well versed in the law to help him to the furthest extent possible. Anyway, I will be on neither side currently, but if I am put on the jury, OK. I wish neither to prosecute nor defend without request.
Poof. You are now in the RNG for the jury.
You have been assigned a number to be put into a RNG for the jury. If you change your mind, you can always step down from that, as it's not mandatory to participate in the jury if you're picked.
OK. Thank you. *tips hat, sits down with phenomenal posture*
Yay
I thought you already agreed to be his defense.
If I'm current only citizens are able to be on the jury?
Can.. Can I volunteer for a Juror position?
Every citizen with reasonable activity levels has been added to the RNG for the jury.
I will call 6 numbers and their corresponding nations shortly. Well, after we get
that cleared up.
That is correct.
uhh..... ya.
If he asks. Otherwise, I will offer my opinion, 100% based on facts (laws)
You have been added to the RNG, but if one of the chosen does not wish to be a juror and you are not already on the jury, you can replace them.
You have to be appointed by the Chairman.
Thank God.
There's no possible chance I'm be involved so I can completely ignore this region while that trials going on.
Why is he on trial for treason?
I swear on my honor as Chairman that I had no diabolical influence in the drawing of these numbers, and that these were the results as chosen by random.org from a pool containing 16 of the most active citizens:
10
16
14
12
15
8
The names are:
Pevvania
Seafield Islands
Right-Winged Nation
Amarican Empire
Ankha
The New United States
I'm not exactly sure what the procedure is if the President ends up on the jury, though...
He is under suspicion for trying to start war against Libertatem with another region.
He asked the UCR to attack us.
I've got a feel that seafield might not show.
That is hardly grounds for a trial
Well, I can always generate a new name if he's not here when the new AG shows up.
Unless someone wishes to volunteer.
Have each of these nations confirm on the RMB to ensure activity and understanding. I don't think Pev should be on because the trial directly involves him.
The board has decided by vast majority that we do have grounds for a trial.
We'll see what comes of this after it begins.
Also, if anyone would like to volunteer for prosecution and defense, that'd be nice.
Aye, I was thinking the same. I'll have him re-generated.
Hahaha trial. We're going to tie the accused to a cement block and throw him in the river. If he floats to the surface then he's not a wit...
I mean yea trial.
He asked someone to attack us. Yeah, it is.
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Anyways, Ankha has also come to me about potentially being unable to participate in the jury.
So, I guess I'll generate a new jury just because I can, then whoever gets called will be telegrammed.
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