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I'll just list you in the description.

Glad to see a peak in regional politics without a flame war attached. This is truly remarkable for (you may hit me with a rubber chicken if you so wish for my use of the following hackneyed expression) the region's internal affairs.

Also, I have finished modifying Proposed Amendment II, the FREE Act. It is now in process; I await Liberosia's decision as to when to vote on it. Please do read it. (Also, I would advise the three members of the board to elect a chairman at this time.)

Alright. I'd like to have a military. We need someone else besides me and ConIdeal. Please TG me. We will start preparing raids and refounding tomorrow.

If you'd rather take care of the forces back home (or want to do that in conjunction with our military), TG me or my puppet in order to join the Empire's greatest militia, [nation=short+noflag]The Libertatem Guard[/nation].

Ok. We have serious raid plans. I need someone to join. What forces do we need at home? What threats do we really have? And even still, it is easy to withdraw units from foreign combat.

We're staunch anti-communists and are beginning to lean pretty anti-fascist. We have no shortage of enemies (though we could eliminate some with our military). I established the guard to rally Libertatem citizens to defend themselves when the need arises.

So, The Libertatem Armed Forces will be for foreign operations, while the Guard will defend.

Enlist today! Join the Armed Forces and the Guard!

It's a shame the conflict in the South Pacific has dragged on like this with the corrupt chairman still in power.

I think we should adopt the Anti-Fascist tag. Totalitarianism should be despised in all forms, not just communism.

I don't think that a good idea.

I support the anti-fascist tag. Sounds good.

I'd also like to say that I have founded the Objectivist Party of the NSG Senate. We are open to all libertarian capitalists to join, and our founder Liberosia has become a member in Galt's Gulch, the Objectivist HQ.

Galt's Gulch

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=238494&p=14165834#p14165834

NSG Senate

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=235732

No? You don't think taking steps to demonstrate the necessity of freedom is a good idea? You don't think that revealing the evil of fascist dictatorships of history (and the present, in some cases) is a good idea? You don't think that rebuking a restrictive ideology on the scale communism reaches is a good idea?

...I'm just being dramatic. Tell the class why, Oceasia.

Here's what I say:

IRL, they have the right to say it.

But on NS, they can move to a fascist/communist region if they please. This is a place for libertarians.

Dunno. I just don't want fascist and communist somehow teamworking against us.

Fascists and communists hate each other.

Good for us then. Approved.

Well, NS is filled with commies, that's for sure.

Well, generally speaking. Luckily communists and fascists see each other the same way we see them, except that they adore their own kind.

Not just commies, but various members of the political left. No me gusta.

I am centrist here.

Well, to be accurate, very few REAL Commies exist. They are mostly socialists. But those are even worse. I like communism better than socialism. And then, National Socialism! Fascists. Slippery slope there.

I hate it all equally...maybe that makes me an egalitarian ;D

So should we put the anti-Fascist sign?

Yes. And you should join the Objectivist Party...we need some members, and Libertatem is somewhat libertarian.

Did your region lose another board member?

He fall inactive

We need the Anti-Fascist tag.

Let's stick with what we have for now.

As part of the War on Tyranny, there have been some recent start-up regions that have both the anti-fascist and anti-communist tags.

Has anyone looked at the turmoil in The South Pacific . Communists on the march .

Anyone else get threatening German messages. It generally is translated as:

"Libertatem is one zionist and anarchist region that will fall to the German Reich!"

Wow...Put on the Anti-Fascist tag.

Lol anarchist

Anarchy is the perfect means of instituting a totalitarian regime. Minarchy is preferable so that a small government protects the people from criminals and foreign threats.

Milograd may finally be deposed!

The Region of Industrious Nations sides with the communists in the South Pacific. How disgraceful.

This may be a misunderstanding. But if not, then we have a problem.

There's no mistake. They're forming an alliance with the evil dicatorship that has risen there.

HAI GUIZE LETS SLAY SUM EEEBUL DICATORS

But not right now. I have to go.

Congratulations Board Member Rebelland. We haven't had a Democratic-Republican on the Board for a long time.

You should talk, we asked for help and your leaders can't do anything . We recognized a an elected goverement. Too many Capitalist and consertive goverements are too weak. Why don't you get off your butts and send 10 W/a nations to fight .thats right you don't have any. Hileville and several others have wrong a lot of nations and now maybe it's payback.

I've been trying to start a military. I got one volunteer.

The first rule of politics is Know all of the angles. We must change attitudes if freedom is to work. You got in bed with Fascists on the anti communists front that did not work out. What other blunders will happen? We in the Region of Industrious nations consider you a close ally but inaction is a poor response . If you want to build an army than great contact us . But if you what to sit it out than watch us.

Great news. Milograd's oppositions finally out-endorsed him! Hold that until the next update and ta da!

May I have the Chairman of the Board Position?

The first rule of politics is: know all of the angles. We must change attitudes if freedom is to work. You got in bed with communists on the South Pacific front; that did not work out. What other blunders will happen? We in Libertatem consider you a close ally but siding with an evil regime is a poor response. If you want to withdraw your support for Milograd, then great. Contact us. But if you think you can get away with endorsing communism, you have the wrath of Libertatem's new military to worry about.

Also, I'm trying to get my proposed amendment processed.

The one thing we can count on is your lack of action!!!! What Military ? Smoke and mirrors .

Just because we did not "act" does not give you license to ally with communists.

You have two choices. You may be FOR us and for capitalism and freedom or you can be FOR Milograd and communism. Choose thoughtfully.

We might ask the same of you ! With the Nazis ! Great choice now they are watching you and waiting . At the least you could enter on the side that is right. My government has recognized the voted in government . The thugs that have run the South Pacific are out and like children they are stamping their feet in protest . The government will change again to a non communist regime or back to thuggery what happen remains to be seen .

I am sorry to see your response. It seems you have chosen communists over us. Not just your allies, but your friends.

Shall we close embassies with them?

Also, I call for the house (read: the people of Libertatem) to vote on the following legislation:

Add the Anti-Fascist tag to the region.

I support adding the anti-fascist tag.

That's a thing we should certainly do.

I certainly do.

That's 6 votes for, 0 against, all in less than two hours.

Fantastic. If you wish to vote on the matter, simply vote Yea or Nay in the RMB.

I have blonde hair and blue eyes. I'm all for anti-fascism. Hitler may have been a fan of me by I'm sure not a fan of his!

Following the departure of the Grand Macallan, I will now return to my duties as Attorney General.

Voting is continuing for the approval of an anti-fascist tag.

GFR, why do you vote against?

Once Snabagag puts up his app in the NSG Senate, we've done it! Galt's Gulch has ten residents. I urge any and all capitalists and libertarians to join us in the senate. TG me for details.

And, come on! Vote for the Anti-Fa Tag!

Anyone got ideas for a new motto for me?

Never mind. Got one.

It's a sad day when capitalists choose to ally with communists instead of longtime (libertarian) friends. Good bye, Mr. Hughes, you have embarked on a downward course; hopefully, you can pull back one day.

If anyone wants to join the Imperial Freedom Party, telegram me.

No. We need to ally under one banner, if it's the NSG Senate.

If it's regional politics, I'm fine. Good exercise of your freedom, though. High five!

No. We need to ally under one banner, if it's the NSG Senate.

If it's regional politics, I'm fine. Good exercise of your freedom, though. High five!

Gonna consider the anti-fascist tag thing

As Liberosia has said before, our "the enemy of our enemy is our friend" approach has gotten us under much scrutiny from the capitalistic community at large, and is essentially hypocritical: How can we fight the crimes of communism while praising the equally horrendous crimes of fascism?

We can't ally with fascists because, like communists, their system doesn't work in the long-term. We cannot stand by totalitarian dictatorships - we represent democracy, liberty, free enterprise, everything fascist and communist dictators are against.

We can ally with Fascists because they are also against Communism.

Still, in the long run, their political system is corrupt like the Communists.

We tried that approach, GFR. We lost tons of capitalist allies because of it. Allying with totalitarians is not the way to go.

Instead we simply have to count on fascists beating up on communists before realizing how similar their two ideologies are...and simply knock one or both out in the finishing blow to secure victory.

CFR, the fascists are not capitalists. The are socialist corporatists. The worst of the worst.

I disagree with corporatism wholeheartedly. It ruins the entire aspect of free-market capitalism (and, honestly, even the commies hate corporatism more than free-market).

Well, it's Neo-Liberal Democratic Economics! Look at the US! We are corporatist.

If I were to make a political triangle incorporating fascism, communism, and capitalism as each of the points, the U.S. would be smack dab in the middle. For shame.

I consider the USA Socially non-existant and economically corporatist.

Here's what is wrong: Dems say "government is run by corporations", then they push for MORE government regulation? Reps support most free-market aspects, but ally with big oil business for captures in the Middle East...

Liberosia, did you put up an app for the actual NSG thread? It won't count you as a member if you don't. I should be able to launch the party soon.

And TSP is Free!

Anyway, voting for adding the anti-fascist tag is 7-1-1 (that means one against and one undecided/abstaining).

Voting ends in...oh, to follow procedure, I'd say about two days.

I can't help but wonder what makes the RIN feel so self-important. They're just sitting over there with about 20 nations or less, telling the big wigs what to do and who to fight. They don't even lift a finger while the actual contenders attempt to assemble an armed forces out of a huge lack of WA nations.

Madness, I say.

They have admittedly allowed hard-core socialists into their region as well. They're so worried about fascism and its atrocities, but neglect communism, instead deciding to ally with commies over us.

We had the opposite problem, if you'd recall. We need to take a firm stance against all totalitarianism - we must do it for the sake of libertarianism.

Good night, nations of Libertatem.

Good night. CI, luckily, we are on that path.

Voting on the anti-fascist tag is still 7-1-1. Voting ends in approximately a day and a half.

I also ask that the legislation at vote on the World Factbook Entry incorporate the current results of the voting in process, and again file my proposed amendment for process.

I vote yes, now.

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