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Region: Libertatem
[B]ARMA[/B]
Advocating Responsible Military Act
[B]Section I[/B]
Purpose
Subsection I
To create a more responsible military in Libertatem
Subsection II
To create a more organized military in Libertatem
Subsection III
To be better prepared against coercion, spying, and extortion
[B]Section II[/B]
Creating a probationary period for new recruits
Subsection I
New arrivals to Libertatem must be deemed active for a term of 3 weeks before joining the Libertatem military.
Subsection II
Missions deemed high profile I.E. "Top Secret" will only be released to 3 month veterans
Subsection III
Missions can be deemed high profile by the incumbent President and/or Manager of Military affairs only
[B]Section III[/B]
Probationary period exclusions
Subsection I
A new arrival to Libertatem may join the military early (before the probationary period) under one of the conditions in the following subsections
Subsection II
A vote of 3 or more members of the incumbent board
Subsection III
A recommendation from the incumbent President and/or the Manager of Military Affairs
[B]Section IV[/B]
Military organization
Subsection I
It will now be a responsibility of the Manager of Military Affairs to keep record of all nations participating in the Libertatem military.
Subsection II
Raids can only be conducted with approval from the incumbent Manager of Military Affairs and/or the President
Subsection III
This does not take away the boards power to declare war or declare peace as defined in the constitution (Article I, Section I, Subsection III)
Subsection IV
This does not take away the constitutional right of nations to bear arms in Libertatem as defined in Article VIII, Section I, Subsection II
[B]Section V[/B]
New responsibilities for the Manager of Military Affairs
Subsection I
The Manager of Military Affairs will be required to follow Section IV, Subsection I of ARMA along with the following responsibilities in the following subsections
Subsection II
The Manager of Military Affairs is required to submit a State of the Military report at each board election interval as defined in the TERM act (Section II, Subsection II) to both the board and the President
Subsection III
The State of the Military report will consist of, but not limited to; List of active duty personnel, list of regions raided between the previous election interval and the current, list of regions defended between the previous election interval and the current, and future plans for military action
Subsection IV
The State of the Military report will not be posted publicly unless a majority vote by the house is conducted for each individual report
Subsection V
The State of the Military report is to be archived by the Manager of Military Affairs or a designated person appointed by the Manager of Military Affairs who meets the following conditions: A resident of Libertatem, Qualifies for military duty, participant in Libertatem's regional government.
Subsection VI
The State of the Military report will only be archived for two election cycles after which it must be disregarded
-Authored by Muh Roads
Better? Any more concerns?
I like it a lot. Don't think I have any more gripes.
I like it however there is a qualm.
Section II: I could see the High Class secret Missions becoming an Issue since it could be used without the members of the Region knowing about attacks so we will not be able to tell exactly HOW Often this happens. (However since I am in a Region of Minarchists...)
Excellent. :) If no one else has any objections, I'm ready to move this thing into the voting phase.
I see your point. I'll have to ponder a work around.. any suggestions on your behalf?
Okay lets see. A way to keep Top Secret Missions available for an option whilst not letting it get out of hand? Honestly I don't see how. Without setting up a bunch of Pointless Organizations.
That was exactly the kind of answer I was looking for ;) lol
I think I've found the political label that ultimately suits me: neolibertarian. I believe that human rights are universal, so should be guarded abroad as well as domestically with a foreign policy that embraces the liberty of others. Here's a good article on the subject: http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/confessions-libertarian-neocon/#axzz2t2r3uD1z
The Anti-Corporatist Party continues to support Miencraft and hopes that he shall retain Seat Four.
Miencraft throws their support to Miencraft.
Oh wait.
No support for me? Im technically a member too arent I.. heheheh. I am joking of course lol
The Democratic-Republican Party supports Miencraft to retain seat four.
JordinWland's back.
Will you run, Time Alliance?
More than Likely no.
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I may not agree with you, but I commend your concern and sincerely hope that you run again. You know, I have created an analogy for our vast and illustrious region. We are a family. We are a family. We all struggle through hardship and rivalry, but in the end we all come together. No matter where you stand on the spectrum, you can find a loving family here. We got libertarians, centrists, marxists, and anarchists. But in the end we are all Libertatens. All a family. If you have a sibling, you know that siblings fight, but in the end, they still love each other. We are all brothers, and even though I might not agree with you all 100% of the time, I still love you all in the end. We are all Libertatens, and I wouldn't have it any other way. God Bless You All, and God Bless Libertatem!
Vote Time Alliance for Seat 5
"Not right, not left, but forward"
Hello, Ladies and Gentlemen. Democrats, Republicans, libertarians, Fascists, Communists and whatever other government you may support. My name is The Red Star Nations of The Time Alliance. I am the current head of the The Democratic-Republican Party and I am here to tell why exactly you should vote for me.
-I represent the Centrists. I support good policies from both wings and I believe that both wings have some good in them.
-I believe in Direct Democracy and that the Government should stay out of issues that do not affect the Economy, Law or Foreign Policy.
-I believe in Social equality of all humans, regardless of Sex, Religion, Race, Social standings, monetary means and sexual orientation.
-I believe that the Government should be held responsible for anything that may occur.
In addition to these beliefs I would like to describe myself with three-terms.
-Tolerant
-Open-Minded
and of course
-Hard-Working
I already can tell this is an Up-hill battle and frankly I don't even expect to win. This is just me speaking my mind and wanting to make a change. To get our current Government out of the Right-Wing repitition it has placed itself into and giving it a touch of something new.
Something called: Centrism.
I hope you can see the light in the center and just remember. We don't need to go Right or Left. We just need to go Forward.
This version is fixed.
This will be interesting. Board races updates:
Board elections begin next Tuesday the 25th and end on Thursday the 27th. The Board races will look like this, with the incumbents put first:
Seat 1: [nation=short]Muh Roads[/nation] (RLP)
Seat 2: [nation=short]Humpheria[/nation] (RLP)
Seat 3: [nation=short]Ronald Reagan and Rick Grimes[/nation] (RLP)
Seat 4: [nation=short]Miencraft[/nation] (ACOP)
Seat 5: [nation=short]Alchandria[/nation] (LOP) v. [nation=short]The Time Alliance[/nation] (DRP)
If you have any questions to ask me about my campaign feel free to Telegram me or ask on the RMB.
Allright folks! Lets start voting on ARMA. I will be counting the votes and please use the RMB.
I vote YEA.. clearly. Lol
What are your thoughts on the REAGAN Treaty Organisation? Would you amend our membership in it or organise a complete withdrawal?
I will sign the bill.
YEA
As much as I would like a withdraw I can tell at this time a withdraw would neither benifet or hurt us. If anything I'd like us to be a little less involved in that alliance without total removal from the alliance. All I believe that alliance to be is a group of raiders just as bad as The Black Riders. We shouldn't be Warriors of democracy but instead the shield of democracy. We should defend from tyranny instead of attempting to purge it.
You see no matter what there will always be tyranny. Regions will be refounded and joined again. The most we can do whilst being effective in the "War on Tyranny" is through defense and not through offense.
Interesting answers.
I'll be back in a second, guys.
That, however, is one of our founding principles. The War on Tyranny, the War on Communism, is one of our most ancient and sacred traditions. Libertatem has long been a stronghold against oppresion and wrong doing. I would remind the population that our name 'Libertatem' is Liberty in Latin. Our Esteemed President pointed out that I have worked to preserve our traditions. And in my opinion is the Board must work toward this as well, do you deny these claims?
YEA
ARMA
B- 2/5
M- 0/3
P- 1/1
H- 1/76
I vote YEA on ARMA.
I'm not saying to end the war. I'm saying we take a new stance. Instead of pointlessly attacking regions whose founders will just remake we should focus on defending those regions that are already democratic.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=5418977
HYPOCRISY
How?
"North Korea is always in a state of war with anti-democratic, oppressor regions, imperialist satellites, fascist and reactionary hellholes."
North Korea is anti-democratic, oppressor region, imperialist satellites, fascist and reactionary hellholes.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=5425506 HAHAHAHAHA
"I vote for myself in the regional election for WA"
"Democratic Dictator". Eternal WA Delegate.
ARMA
B- 3/5
M- 0/3
P- 1/1
H- 1/76
I feel kind of bad considering not much has really happened during this term as a board member. Like, literal board activity.
I also vote YEA for ARMA it sounds good.
With short terms it's bound to happen unfortunately..
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From NK
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Regional elections for WAD end in 12 hours.
The current delegate (myself/Marxist-Feminists) runs unopposed so far, with the unanimous approval of 9 votes 'for' (unofficial count, recount required)."
All we need is to send some puppets and win the election.
Ummm... that'll be pretty obvious! :P I sent a spy puppet over there a few months ago and I got banjected almost immediately.
Must have been some spy.
We act as we are needed. Will you still run?
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Is this your region or are you trying to take it over?
Libertatem is voting YEA on the inclusion of Imperio do Brasil, Tea Party Patriots and Conservative Empire in REATO.
I've found an adequate political label for myself: neo-libertarian. Neo-libertarians believe that human rights are universal and extend beyond domestic borders, so one of the state's few functions should be to encourage the development of liberty abroad. Neo-libs differ from neo-cons in that they support free, rather than corporatist, markets and civil liberties for all individuals, including enemy POWs. Neo-cons believe in the aggressive use of the military to advance its own interests; neo-libs prefer monetary support for foreign resistance groups, with direct military action being a last resort in the case of urgent national emergency or extreme human rights abuses.
I vote YEA on ARMA.
ARMA
B- 4/5
M- 1/3
P- 1/1
H- 1/76
Awesome :) so glad I have had such great support in this thanks Libertatem!
Thank YOU for authoring a bill, I thought it'd be just me drafting legislation for a while! :P
I thought you'd appreciate it! When I get the free time I browse through the laws and try and think of ways to improve our region.
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Remember. I'm open to questions about my campaign for the seat.
Look at this thread:
Behold! RightExpo 2014!
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=284499&p=18948715#p18948715
......heh ehh ehhh
*face meet palm*
Why.......just why.....
Don't Worry, Fascists are NOT invited.
Seriously? ............
That just gets better and better
/sarcasm
In other news, I'm going to purchase one more round of recruitment telegrams. :P
Awesome.
Anyone here watch Stossel?
Inviting fascists to RightExpo would be like inviting communists.
Not really.
Fascists are Right- Wing.
Communists are Left-Wing.
A group named right Expo would be expected or SHOULD include Republicans, Libertarians, Conservatives, Right-Centrists, Fascists, Anarchists and Reactionaries.
No they're not, and I've explained why numerous times.
'Reactionary' is a very vague term that could be applied in a variety of contexts. In American politics, the Democrats are more reactionary than Republicans for wanting to maintain the status quo of the tax, spending and welfare states. Libertarians and Tea Party Republicans are progressive.
Socialism is a fundamentally reactionary ideology because it wants to revert to a tribal culture but on a much larger scale. The way forward is classical liberalism.
No. Reactionary is not what Socialists or the left is. The left is Progressive in sense they want extreme changes in the world (generally speaking.)
Reactionary is to want to keep it the same which is most of the right. The Tea-Party movement is a joke.
Social Democracy and/or a Centrist Moderate view on politics is the way forward. The Right and Left bring us to a halt.
I do.
I too want extreme changes in the world, as did people like Margaret Thatcher and Murray Rothbard. Does that make us leftist too?
The socialist idea of 'great change' is taking humanity back to the stone age. I don't find this very 'progressive'.
The Tea Party may seem a bit abrasive, but they've got some great goals. I do hope they take over the party.
By the way. When will elections begin? If they have begun how many people have voted.
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25th-27th*
I said Generally. Not all Progressives are left. I'm a Centrist and Progressive.
No. It's not. Socialists want equality socially and fiscally for all.
If the Tea Party takes over the Republicans we are screwed. The only good situation then is if ONLY democrats got in as opposed to a Republican party based off the Tea Party.
Oh hey guys. My WA nation is having elections. Come check it out! http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=284520
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Tea Party sound like the stereotypical old-white-racist-millionaire-man party. Call it leftist propaganda, but everything I've heard from this has been negative.
Fascists do not have a unified economic policy. They could fit in with either a "RightExpo" or a "LeftExpo".
No. Your right. Although that's not what it is.... The Tea Party is still a crap choice to vote for anything for.
I'd call you centre-left.
Purebred socialists want communal ownership of the means of production either through grassroots or state planning. The former is what Marx recognised to be practiced as late as the Stone Age - society was comprised of individuals that worked "for the benefit of all" and shared out all revenues fairly equally. That was when income equality was more or less absolute.
So you think the Tea Party are worse than the warmongering corporatists that control both parties? o_0
I, too, used to believe this, but then I started reading up into their views and goals. Their core aim is to reduce the size of government through lower spending and taxes. That's it. Every movement has a racist segment, but I haven't actually heard of any racist Tea Partiers nor any credible reason to dub the movement as racist, unless you take Al Sharpton's 'beliefs' as fact.
Fascists adamantly believe in the power of the state, even more so than many left-socialists. Governments that wield such arbitrary power as those suggested in fascist literature and seen in fascist Europe can never protect private property, making them leftist.
The generally left-leaning media sees only the aspects of the Tea Party that would equate them to the more disreputable members of the political right - like, say, Fox News. This is because the Tea Party's loudest supporters are either super-rich, super-racist, or both. While this is indeed undesirable, and practically constitutes the sole reason I'm not on board, they're not getting the entire picture.
Under the grimy, bigoted surface of every influential political movement is something a large group of people can subscribe to. Otherwise it wouldn't be a large movement. In the case of the Tea Party, it is a consolidation of economic conservatism and social liberalism. I think the reason the left hates the Tea Party so much isn't because of what's on the surface (after all, their sub-parties have just as much to be ashamed of), but that a party in which conservatives and libertarians would work together would be a party that could very easily gain more supporters than their own. After all, people generally like capitalism (though most are also vaguely aware of the current system's flaws) and generally like freedom, and the Tea Party caters to both aspects.
Who are these people you speak of? I'm a Tea Party supporter and I literally can't think of anyone matching that description. I've never even heard of any 'super-rich' people supporting the movement.
Two days ago was the 62nd anniversary of Executive Order 9066, signed by FDR. It ordered the forced internment of over 100,000 Japanese Americans based purely on their ethnicity. Hardly the worst thing that he did (he was that disastrous), but still absolutely abhorrent.
I'm sure someone on the left could tell you; I have no clue.
Indeed. An example of the statism he wished to implement, and to a degree, succeeded in.
1. I prefer Moderate Progressive Cosmopolitan Social Democrat. As opposed to Left Leaning Centrist.
2. Yes; but that is socialists. I said that THE LEFT itself is generally more Progressive than the Right. While the Right is more reactionary.
3. The tea party or the corporate parties? I'll vote Fourth party.
4. They reduce the size of the government TOO much. I looked at their spending cuts. They want to cut Education, Social Security, Welfare, but hey. They don't want to cut funding to NASA!
5. They can easily protect it. I think your getting Fascism and Totalitarian mixed up. Fascism is only one sector of totalitarianism.
Seperation makes a people easier to control.
I frankly haven't.....of course I haven't looked. What he just described with the Super-Rich is the two Corporate parties.
It is often not acknowledged how much more damage he could have done to America. God knows what it'd be like today if the Conservative Coalition hadn't repealed most of the Raw Deal in the 40s, one of the greatest accomplishments in US political history. The same coalition of bipartisans also prevented Harry Truman's plan known as the 'Fair Deal' from becoming law, a lame sequel to Roosevelt's agenda that would have massively expanded the size of government.
He is one president I dislike more than Reagan. Very few make that list.
So. Arizona "Religious protection" law? It's crap. It's a way to discriminate against gays. It is not a way to Defend religion.
Fascists aren't either "wing" by their own definition.
2. It varies drastically.
3. I think the best way to make a difference is to change the major parties from the inside by voting for better leaders.
4. Depends on what Tea Partier you're talking about, but most believe in across-the-board cuts. I firmly believe that NASA is the only part of government that deserves more funding, because space colonisation is the future of the human race.
5. If the state has the power to destroy the population a million times over, murder political opponents, segregate the population, purge entire races of people... Then it has the power to do anything. And if the state can legally do anything, then it doesn't matter if its a big cuddly benevolent dictatorship - your property rights do not exist. Property rights can only exist under the rule of law.
I'm going to bed now, but you and I are gonna have a lot to talk about tomorrow! ^_^
A simple majority in support of the ARMA Act seems to have been achieved in the Board and House. End voting when you're ready, Board Member Roads.
You're a social democrat, so why do you hate FDR? And why do you hate Reagan?
Fair enough, ARMA voting will now end and will be passed into law.
How bizarre. Can you state your reasons behind this? I've read multiple claims that Nasa manages to out-compete private companies for launches only through huge subsidies (and therefore huge losses). In many ways it's actively preventing the age of Space Tourism by undercutting these private companies. Once you get the age of space tourism on the roll, it opens up funding for plenty of other things.
It seems odd of you to support something so decidedly monopolistic as Nasa while you deny the poor healthcare precisely because it is monopolistic of the government to do so.
Yet they have universally been deemed to be on the extreme of right wing beliefs. There's no point in trying to re-define right and left simply to distance moderate right wing politics from Fascism.
All theoretical Fascism require huge oppression of civil rights. Not all theoretical leftist theories do.
Oh no...I liked FDR and his Alphabet of Government....I probably should've said whom I was talking about. Harry Truman is whom I was talking about.
2. Progressivism is a broad political philosophy based on the Idea of Progress, which asserts that advances in science, technology, economic development, and social organization can improve the human condition. That is pretty dang Liberal and not very Conservative if you asked me. A reactionary is a person who holds political viewpoints that favor a return to a previous state (the status quo ante) in a society. That is more Conservative than Liberal.
3. Best way to change is to for one. Get rid of that law made where third parties can only get in debates if they got 5% of last elections vote. Then pass a law so Corporations can not donate money to campaigns.
4. No....Just no. Deny Education and Healthcare from the people? For some science that costs a tad too much? Why?
5. Honestly though you can still have Private businesses (Which is what the Left and Right Spectrum covers....It doesn't cover anything else.) Thus placing Fascism over at the right. Now if we want to talk about an Authoritarian government that could be on either side of the Spectrum that is called Totalitarianism.
Actually, you may have a point. It's completely true that NASA crowds out private funding - the recent surge in private space exploration projects since the Obama Space Cuts has been encouraging, and shows that free enterprise has taken us further to reaching the stars in the past five years than government has done in the past twenty. But I still believe in some NASA funding and active projects to help advance exploration.
I believe in universal healthcare. All taxpayers could access private healthcare via private savings accounts and vouchers for lower-income households.
But this categorisation simply isn't true, unless you were to call the Soviet Union and North Korea extreme-right as well. To be truly extreme-right (by a revisionist account), one must believe in completely unconstrained private expression. You cannot simultaneously believe in private property rights and an omnipotent state. The only extreme-rightists are anarcho-capitalists. National Socialism, as an ideology, is deeply rooted in 19th Century socialism. Hitler and Goebbels despised liberalism and hoped to implement a Stalinist economic model in Germany after the war.
I reject the views of orthodox historians, because they're nearly always either leftists seeking to twist history to suit their own beliefs or just amateurs who purport downright falsified claims. (The Untouchables brought down Al Capone, World War II ended the Great Depression, etc...)
2. Then I am a Progressive.
3. Yes, no. Corporations have way too much influence, but this threatens free expression.
4. Earth is in a very vulnerable state. If global warming and nuclear war don't kill us, the sun, an alien race, a meteor strike, a black hole or some other intergalactic event will. We need to colonise other planets for our own survival as a species. As I said to Pax, universal education and healthcare can be provided with vouchers.
5. It doesn't matter, because a fascist state has the power to destroy any and all private businesses with the click of the Fuhrer's fingers, which occurred many times under Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy and Francoist Spain. The houses and businesses of Jews were raided and destroyed because of the state's diabolical hatred of them. As I said also, Hitler planned to nationalise the entire economy post-war once he purged it of the industrialists that helped him gain power.
I'll respond after my show finishes...It starts in a minute.
I like Truman solely because he's from my state. That and he didn't do quite as much damage as other Democrats of his day.
He had a pretty good foreign policy. But if I were in his position I would have kept Stalin out of Eastern Europe.
The ARMA Act is now officially law.
3. Corporations shouldn't have a place in politics. At all.
4. No. Global Warming doesn't exist. We don't need to pay for NASA
5. But he wasn't a true fascist. He was National Socialist.
3. Then neither should unions.
4. Cite me some credible scientific evidence to back up your claim. Regardless, humanity must go on, as we will have many challenges to face in the coming centuries that could threaten our existence.
5. National Socialism is a form of fascism.
[Quote]4. No. Global Warming doesn't exist.[/quote]
You're kidding, right?
[quote]We don't need to pay for NASA[/quote]
I agree. NASA is practically it's own firm. Why then, does it need state funding when it can sell one of the millions of products it claims to have invented from or for astronautics?
Damn quote feature is moronic.
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