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Humpheria wrote:While I disagree that Pev would do this. I do wish to point one thing out. You don't have the freedom to act upon your beliefs. You actually can't have beliefs when making official decisions. Your position requires an objective viewpoint.

That aside, I plan to talk to Pev about this to get his side and give him a chance to defend his actions before I jump to condemn him. But, at face value, it doesn't look good.

Then no one can fight for anything.

I said I balanced my beliefs and region. I said I'd put the region first but I still have the right to act on my beliefs.

Humpheria wrote:While I disagree that Pev would do this. I do wish to point one thing out. You don't have the freedom to act upon your beliefs. You actually can't have beliefs when making official decisions. Your position requires an objective viewpoint.

That aside, I plan to talk to Pev about this to get his side and give him a chance to defend his actions before I jump to condemn him. But, at face value, it doesn't look good.

^

But, his job does not allow personal beliefs to cloud one's judgement. He is a leftist in a right region, it wouldn't be fair to the region to let his personal beliefs influence his decision.

Your job is to enforce the law. If you want to change the law then Put up a vote. You do not have the power to enforce what you want. You duty is to the Law not yourself.

Humpheria wrote:But, his job does not allow personal beliefs to cloud one's judgement. He is a leftist in a right region, it wouldn't be fair to the region to let his personal beliefs influence his decision.

.....

my quote:

"I'm here to work for the Region."

-I said numerous times I would leave the position if my views got in the way. My views got in the way. I offered a resignation.

The Time Alliance wrote:Then no one can fight for anything.

I said I balanced my beliefs and region. I said I'd put the region first but I still have the right to act on my beliefs.

Your beliefs can influence a piece of legislation that the region supports but you don't, so you won't approve it. Because that's fair. Your job does not allow subjective thinking. I would say the same to someone of my beliefs. The Attorney General cannot make official decisions on his own personal preference. It gives one man to much power to influence the region.

Humpheria wrote:But, his job does not allow personal beliefs to cloud one's judgement. He is a leftist in a right region, it wouldn't be fair to the region to let his personal beliefs influence his decision.

This.

The Time Alliance wrote:.....

my quote:

"I'm here to work for the Region."

-I said numerous times I would leave the position if my views got in the way. My views got in the way. I offered a resignation.

Then why would you point out that you have the right to exercise your power based on your personal beliefs?

The Amarican Empire wrote:Your job is to enforce the law. If you want to change the law then Put up a vote. You do not have the power to enforce what you want. You duty is to the Law not yourself.

I never.... okay.

Re-read the thing and tell me does it say.

1. I will not acknowledge any laws I disagree with.

2. I will not enforce unlawful things

or does it say

3. I will leave if my personal beliefs affect my job.

The Time Alliance wrote:- Freedom to act upon my beliefs.

Humpheria wrote:Then why would you point out that you have the right to exercise your power based on your personal beliefs?

3. Act on those beliefs doesn't involve my position it involves my beliefs. My Acting on them was two things.

- Supporting whom I want

or

-Oppose a government position and not take it if I must drop those beliefs.

I Propose that we have a Supreme Court. This will Be a Court of 3 Ministers that enforce the law and deem a law Unconstitutional if it is. This will limit the power that is held in one person. The people can come up with the details on how he/she is elected and for how long.

I understand how it can be mistaken but I never stated anywhere I would not acknowledge laws against me. I simply said I wouldn't support it and due to that I would step down as I couldn't perform my job to mu best ability

The Time Alliance wrote:3. Act on those beliefs doesn't involve my position it involves my beliefs. My Acting on them was two things.

- Supporting whom I want

or

-Oppose a government position and not take it if I must drop those beliefs.

The discussion is about official acts from the Office of the Attorney General. Not your own little quirks. You cannot make official decisions based on your personal opinions.

The Time Alliance wrote:I understand how it can be mistaken but I never stated anywhere I would not acknowledge laws against me. I simply said I wouldn't support it and due to that I would step down as I couldn't perform my job to mu best ability

No one said anything about your ability. We're talking about the fact that you said that you had the right to influence legislation for the entire region based on your own viewpoint. Which you often hold in solitude.

The Amarican Empire wrote:I Propose that we have a Supreme Court. This will Be a Court of 3 Ministers that enforce the law and deem a law Unconstitutional if it is. This will limit the power that is held in one person. The people can come up with the details on how he/she is elected and for how long.

You'll have to write a bill. But to be honest I'm not liking the sounds of that, but do apppreciate that your thinking outside the box.

Muh Roads wrote:You'll have to write a bill. But to be honest I'm not liking the sounds of that, but do apppreciate that your thinking outside the box.

Appreciation is good.

Humpheria wrote:No one said anything about your ability. We're talking about the fact that you said that you had the right to influence legislation for the entire region based on your own viewpoint. Which you often hold in solitude.

Quit posting what Ibwanted to post!!! Lol xD

Humpheria wrote:The discussion is about official acts from the Office of the Attorney General. Not your own little quirks. You cannot make official decisions based on your personal opinions.

......

THAT'S WHY I SAID...

"However I'm not going to drop my beliefs because of a job. If my beliefs prevent me from holding government positions than I will leave."

I said multiple times... you know what. No. Just solve the issue at hand. Let me submit law change proposals for the board to vote on then we will see how it works out.

I think your mistaking what I have said. And honestly everyone's beliefs affect their decisions. It's nothing new. You can't deny your beliefs affect your decisions. You see it in games and in real life. I said though I served the region and would step down if my views went against my job.

Humpheria wrote:No one said anything about your ability. We're talking about the fact that you said that you had the right to influence legislation for the entire region based on your own viewpoint. Which you often hold in solitude.

Solitude? My views are pretty open.....and I never said that. I said I would step down.

The Time Alliance wrote:

I think your mistaking what I have said. And honestly everyone's beliefs affect their decisions. It's nothing new. You can't deny your beliefs affect your decisions. You see it in games and in real life. I said though I served the region and would step down if my views went against my job.

That's not necessarily true. I know many cops who believe marijuana should be legal and that people should not be prosecuted for use nor possession. Then they go arrest someone with a joint. When it comes to a job like this, beliefs should not influence your decisions. With this position your expected to uphold that in the best manner possible.

I meant that your views on an issue generally aren't the majority.

The Time Alliance wrote:and I never said that. I said I would step down.

The Time Alliance wrote:My response.

Okay let's try this again.

Hello Pev. I think I need to speak to you about my position.

First you need to understand. I work for the Region and my beliefs before I personally work for you. That being said I am able to exercise three rights I gained by being born.Â

- Freedom of Belief

- Freedom of Speech

andÂ

[B]- Freedom to act upon my beliefs.[/B]

The Time Alliance wrote:Solitude? My views are pretty open.....and I never said that. I said I would step down.

He means you alone hold them here.

Muh Roads wrote:That's not necessarily true. I know many cops who believe marijuana should be legal and that people should not be prosecuted for use nor possession. Then they go arrest someone with a joint. When it comes to a job like this, beliefs should not influence your decisions. With this position your expected to uphold that in the best manner possible.

Personal experience is a bad example.

Think congress. Think Presidents. Think UN. Think real politics.

Humpheria wrote:I meant that your views on an issue generally aren't the majority. And I'm not repeating myself.

I'll repeat myself

Freedom to act could be to step down.

The Time Alliance wrote:Personal experience is a bad example.

Think congress. Think Presidents. Think UN. Think real politics. I'll repeat myself

Freedom to act could be to step down.

Humpheria wrote:I meant that your views on an issue generally aren't the majority.

I actually didn't say that. Don't be fraudulent to win an argument.

Muh Roads wrote:He means you alone hold them here.

Point taken. But thing is what would I have done to infringe or hurt laws.

I asked if I could propose laws in their place. Got the threat. Responded in that way.

My Acting was

1. Proposing new laws

2. Resigning.

I'm not going to not do my job based on a law..... That's why I'd step down.

Humpheria wrote:I actually didn't say that. Don't be fraudulent to win an argument.

I didn't.... that was....not.....

I was regarding your Underlined quote.

Firstly, who threatened you?

Secondly, you haven't yet. But you said that you could.

Thirdly, that's what your job is.

The Time Alliance wrote:I didn't.... that was....not.....

I was regarding your Underlined quote.

I didn't say "I'm not repeating myself" But the quote says I do.

Humpheria wrote:Firstly, who threatened you?

Secondly, you haven't yet. But you said that you could.

Thirdly, that's what your job is.

.....

You really didn't pay attention to anything....

The Time Alliance wrote:I'll highlight the issue still.

Greetings, Time. I'd like to speak to you a bit about your position.

Now, I didn't appoint you. The founder did. But so far I'm not entirely impressed with your performance. You seem to have a limited understanding of the laws, and I need a competent understanding of it in my Attorney-General. So I'd like you to read up on the Constitution again and a few other of the laws. What Ido not want is any more of your judicial activism. The Constitution is a document set in stone. We can amend it, we can change it, but we cannot pick and choose our favourite parts of it to enforce. You in particular need to remember that Article 8 is still in effect, and will continue to be unless it is removed.

[B] This is the problem part [/B]

And don't forget that you work for me now, and my administration. [B]If you oppose my re-election, then you oppose your continued employment as Attorney-General. If I am not re-elected, do you think any of the other candidates will just stick with the current cabinet, and move on with advisers they campaigned against? No, they won't. I hope to see you more faithful to your job and more faithful to the Constitution.

You hold a very powerful position. Use it wisely.

I'll post my response following him. He is aware it was the founder whom appointed me...

I actually can propose laws and step down...

I just said I would do my job based on the law unless I believed it morally wrong in which I'd resign.

The Time Alliance wrote:Personal experience is a bad example.

Think congress. Think Presidents. Think UN. Think real politics.

Oh brother. Their decisions are swayed by their beliefs because that's how politics work. I was talking about law enforcement. Which, as the attorney-general.. guess.what your job is? To uphold the law, make sure new laws are constitutional, etc.

Muh Roads wrote:Oh brother. Their decisions are swayed by their beliefs because that's how politics work. I was talking about law enforcement. Which, as the attorney-general.. guess.what your job is? To uphold the law, make sure new laws are constitutional, etc.

You aren't in a political position. You are non-partisan.

Humpheria wrote:I didn't say "I'm not repeating myself" But the quote says I do.

..... I'm on my phone. At times my phone doesn't cooperate and puts something I type in the quote. I typed "I'm not repeating myself" but had to type it again because it didn't show up.

Humpheria wrote:You aren't in a political position. You are non-partisan.

Thank you for summing that up =P

Muh Roads wrote:Oh brother. Their decisions are swayed by their beliefs because that's how politics work. I was talking about law enforcement. Which, as the attorney-general.. guess.what your job is? To uphold the law, make sure new laws are constitutional, etc.

Humpheria wrote:You aren't in a political position. You are non-partisan.

.... I'm.....not.... screw it.... okay look. We need to stop this. UCR is watching our board. I don't know who else is but I just got a telegram from a communist region whom saw our argument.

Look first things first.

1. War Hiatus

2. The telegram

3. The DERP act someone mentioned as well as other acts and the Attorney General thing.

Okay? Kay.

The Time Alliance wrote:.... I'm.....not.... screw it... okay look. We need to stop this. UCR is watching our board. I don't know who else is but I just got a telegram from a communist region whom saw our argument.

Look first things first.

1. War Hiatus

2. The telegram

3. The DERP act someone mentioned as well as other acts and the Attorney General thing.

Okay? Kay.

Who cares? Let them watch. They [I]like to watch... *waves at commies*

On issue 3 I telegramed pev about putting up a poll tomorrow. Your welcome.

Muh Roads wrote:Who cares? Let them watch. They [I]like to watch... *waves at commies*

On issue 3 I telegramed pev about putting up a poll tomorrow. Your welcome.

I like it when they watch. ;)

Muh Roads wrote:Who cares? Let them watch. They [I]like to watch... *waves at commies*

On issue 3 I telegramed pev about putting up a poll tomorrow. Your welcome.

...... I'd rather they not see a false point of weakness. Attack. Lose and the War on Communism get full support to continue.

funny because i am watching them too.......

The Amarican Empire wrote:funny because i am watching them too.......

As am I.

UCR and Libertatem have been having internal issues frequently as of late.

The Time Alliance wrote:...... I'd rather they not see a false point of weakness. Attack. Lose and the War on Communism get full support to continue.

Meh. They can assume all day long.

Humpheria wrote:I like it when they watch. ;)

*puts hand on humpys thigh*

Lool

Muh Roads wrote:Meh. They can assume all day long.

*puts hand on humpys thigh*

Lool

.....So I have to go to ummm....sleep I ummm think. See ya tomorrow.

*Leaves room before y'all go at it*

Muh Roads wrote:Meh. They can assume all day long.

*puts hand on humpys thigh*

Lool

Why is Humpy always put in that kind of Message.

I check UCR's board on a daily basis. I find it amusing at times. While we can argue, it doesn't weaken us. Can't say the say for the commies.

Muh Roads wrote:*puts hand on humpys thigh*

Lool

*giggles like a school girl

Oh stop it, you.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Why is Humpy always put in that kind of Message.

Cause I'm da best ;)

Humpheria wrote:I check UCR's board on a daily basis. I find it amusing at times. While we can argue, it doesn't weaken us. Can't say the say for the commies.

*giggles like a school girl

Oh stop it, you.

........... My god. Let's not...

TTA is kind of like our Softer version of Communal Earth. Only a few Differences.

Anyways getting away from stuff.

Ib recommend y'all check out the band Sabaton. Great metal songs about the cruelty of war.

No cussing. Not inappropriate.

I recommend their songs:

A lifetime of war

The final Solution: About the Holocaust

Price of a mile: WW1

and Midway: Midway.

The Amarican Empire wrote:TTA is kind of like our Softer version of Communal Earth. Only a few Differences.

............

The Time Alliance wrote:............

Stupid hippie.

At least he does not touch people thigh in public........

Humpheria wrote:Stupid hippie.

.......... I'm not a hippie.....

The Amarican Empire wrote:At least he does not touch people thigh in public........

*Touches American's thigh*

Or do I? *SeductIve eyes*

We had to do a Personality Test in School i got hippie.

The Time Alliance wrote:*Touches American's thigh*

Or do I? *SeductIve eyes*

I know I surely spelt your name wing.

It's getting wierd in here.... I like it.

The Amarican Empire wrote:We had to do a Personality Test in School i got hippie.

What test? Where?

My test gave me INTJ or the Mastermind of the personality types.

Well the History of my name is the Name The American Empire was taken. so i changed the e to a A

o in the test you are talking about TTA i Got the Idealist.

The Amarican Empire wrote:o in the test you are talking about TTA i Got the Idealist.

Which is that?

Also who does conservative idealism serve?

In UCR they asked the question: "Maybe Lawless is trying to tear the region apart as Pev said UCR was a Libertatem experiment."

I'm wondering whom Mr. Idealism is actually loyal to.

The Time Alliance wrote:Also who does conservative idealism serve?

In UCR they asked the question: "Maybe Lawless is trying to tear the region apart as Pev said UCR was a Libertatem experiment."

I'm wondering whom Mr. Idealism is actually loyal to.

I wonder that too, as I see him in even Juche Union, who was "friendly" to us only out of association.

I have often wondered. He has like eight nations. I would say the IRU, but it isn't exactly a vast empire.

I think we should get to the bottom of this.

The Time Alliance wrote:Which is that?

o in yours i would be the teacher

http://www.truity.com/view/types

And he seems loyal to all his regions but... we've come into conflict so much. I'm wondering exactly what he is doing in all these regions.

Humpheria wrote:I think we should get to the bottom of this.

Agreed

The Time Alliance wrote:And he seems loyal to all his regions but... we've come into conflict so much. I'm wondering exactly what he is doing in all these regions.

The regions. Not in conflict with conservatism

The Time Alliance wrote:AgreedThe regions. Not in conflict with conservatism

Conservative anarcho-communism?

*mind implodes*

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Conservative anarcho-communism?

*mind implodes*

......Yes. Just yes...

The Time Alliance wrote:What test? Where?

My test gave me INTJ or the Mastermind of the personality types.

Im an ENTJ, The "Executive" or Fieldmarshal.

Humpheria wrote:It's getting wierd in here.... I like it.

Yea.. yea.. thats right. Weird.

INTP. Somehow I am the Libertatem manager of military affairs when my personality isn't that of a general at all. :p

Republic Of Minerva wrote:INTP. Somehow I am the Libertatem manager of military affairs when my personality isn't that of a general at all. :p

Hey, im not disappointed! Your doing a great job!

Famous people with the same personality as me:

- Isaac Newton

- Karl Marx (haha)

- Vladimir Lenin (Haha)

-Mark Zukemburg

-Nikola Tesla

- Stephen Hawking

- John Adams

- Martin Luther (Religious)

Yay! I'm a commander!

Muh Roads wrote:Hey, im not disappointed! Your doing a great job!

Heheh. I guess I am more extroverted online, actually.

And impatient. :p

Mastermind is still the coolest.

Haha. I think it said only two percent of the world was INTJ

Margaret Thatcher

Oskar Schindler -woo!

Vladimir Putin -I am not disappoint.

Simon Cowell -dont like

Napoleon Bonaparte -able was I ere I saw Elba

Hannibal

Gaius Julius Caesar

Winston Churchill

Adolf Hitler -wonderful...

Franklin D. Roosevelt

Dave Letterman

Jerry Seinfeld

Edward Teller

Warren Buffett

Donald Trump

Hillary Clinton -not proud of this

Tell me does this sound like me?

Tenacious visionaries, oriented towards action

Amongst the types with the highest average IQ

Strongly linked to the Narcissistic personality

Somewhat linked to the Schizotypal personality

Repress their Extroverted Sensing function, which means they may lose touch with factual realities and fail to adapt their opinions accordingly

Socrates

Rene Descartes

Blaise Pascal

Sir Isaac Newton

U.S. Presidents:

James Madison

John Quincy Adams

John Tyler

Dwight D. Eisenhower

Gerald Ford

William Harvey (pioneer in human physiology)

C. G. Jung, author of Psychological Types, etc.)

William James

Albert Einstein

Charles Darwin

Tom Foley (1989-1995: Speaker of the House--U.S. House of Representatives)

Henri Mancini

Bob Newhart

Jeff Bingaman, U.S. Senator (D.--NM)

Rick Moranis (Honey, I Shrunk The Kids)

Midori Ito (ice skater, Olympic silver medalist)

Tiger Woods

Einstein. I win.

The Time Alliance wrote:Mastermind is still the coolest.

Haha. I think it said only two percent of the world was INTJ

Same with mine. Our only difference is introverted vs extraverted thinking

The Time Alliance wrote:Tell me does this sound like me?

Tenacious visionaries, oriented towards action

Amongst the types with the highest average IQ

[B]Strongly linked to the Narcissistic personality

Somewhat linked to the Schizotypal personality

Repress their Extroverted Sensing function, which means they may lose touch with factual realities and fail to adapt their opinions accordingly[/B]

Yes.

naw I kid. :p

The Time Alliance wrote:Tell me does this sound like me?

Tenacious visionaries, oriented towards action

Amongst the types with the highest average IQ

Strongly linked to the Narcissistic personality

Somewhat linked to the Schizotypal personality

Repress their Extroverted Sensing function, which means they may lose touch with factual realities and fail to adapt their opinions accordingly

Where did you get these results?

Famous ENFJs include Oprah Winfrey, Pope John Paul II, Margaret Mead, Ralph Nader, Abraham Maslow, Dr. Phil McGraw, and Martin Luther King, Jr.

Muh Roads wrote:Where did you get these results?

http://www.celebritytypes.com/intj.php

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Yes.

naw I kid. :p

I don't know. I'm very egotistical.

Karl Marx and Lenin are right for TTA

The Amarican Empire wrote:Karl Marx and Lenin are right for TTA

I got a bunch of philosophers. And a death metal guy.

Best quote of the day which describes me

Marx: "[I do not] care one straw for popularity."

About ENTJs

No-nonsense, efficient organizers with a flair for strategic optimization

Strongly linked to the Compulsive personality

Somewhat linked to the Sadistic personality

More common in men than in women

Repress their Introverted Feeling function, meaning they sometimes forget what is important to them

Lul, but I like a little non-sense now and then... =p

Harry S. Truman - eeww a Democrat

Gerald Ford - yay are Republican

Colin Powell

Desmond Tutu

Andrew Carnegie - Industrial titan Great

Sam Walton

Andy Rooney

Francis - yes my spiritual Leader

Sarah Palin - she is ok

Rick Santorum

John Boehner - A great Speaker of the house

Joachim von Ribbentrop - o great a Nazi Foreign Minister

Muh Roads wrote:About ENTJs

No-nonsense, efficient organizers with a flair for strategic optimization

Strongly linked to the Compulsive personality

Somewhat linked to the Sadistic personality

More common in men than in women

Repress their Introverted Feeling function, meaning they sometimes forget what is important to them

Lul, but I like a little non-sense now and then... =p

These may vary based on how much percentage you got in a certain area. This is just the norm.

But I would say that is true for the most part.

The Time Alliance wrote:These may vary based on how much percentage you got in a certain area. This is just the norm.

Ah gotcha.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Harry S. Truman - eeww a Democrat

Gerald Ford - yay are Republican

Colin Powell

Desmond Tutu

Andrew Carnegie - Industrial titan Great

Sam Walton

Andy Rooney

Francis - yes my spiritual Leader

Sarah Palin - she is ok

Rick Santorum

John Boehner - A great Speaker of the house

Joachim von Ribbentrop - o great a Nazi Foreign Minister

Boehner? No.

The Amarican Empire wrote:

Joachim von Ribbentrop - o great a Nazi Foreign Minister

Psh. I got Hitler.

wrong one here is mine

http://www.celebritytypes.com/enfj.php

I still have a Nazi in their.

Muh Roads wrote:Psh. I got Hitler.

....My laughter.

Anyways from UCR: "It was BS. I think Lawless had been playing us this whole time for PEV, whom I despise."

I think CI has played everyone.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

Nelson Mandela

John Paul II

Johann von Goethe

Sheryl Sandberg

Pericles

Cicero

Erasmus of Rotterdam

Mikhail Gorbachev

Vaclav Havel

Joe Biden

Tony Blair

Matthieu Ricard

Daniel Goleman

Alfred Adler

Erich Fromm

Neil deGrasse Tyson

Michael Moore

Yasser Arafat

Joseph Goebbels

F*ck a lot of Socialists like TTA

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