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Pevvania wrote:It was a silly name for an atheist to choose, because asserting that God is dead is conceding that He was ever alive in the first place. Derp.

That is actually a really good observation

Jambion wrote:God isn't dead.

that's debatable

Congratulations to President [nation=short]Miencraft[/nation] for having the smallest welfare state in Libertatem!

Jambion wrote:Can I have Canada and America?

Jambion wrote:No.

ohh.. you are a third of my population.. small helpless nation!

North Korea-Chan wrote:ohh.. you are a third of my population.. small helpless nation!

My last nation haf almost 10 times your nations population.

I have 4 million over you currently.

Freudteilung wrote:Hey guys It's Hallo/Baph.

HALLO!

North Korea-Chan wrote:Can I have everyone? I promise I will be very nice and keep you all safe in a basket! I am not scary dictator!

*Shrugs*

I'm fine with it.

I can't wait to someday get citizenship back...

Just finished compiling data for US gross private product (GDP - government spending) from 1900 to 2014. http://www.nationstates.net/nation=pevvania/detail=factbook/id=312038

North Korea-Chan wrote:Can I have everyone? I promise I will be very nice and keep you all safe in a basket! I am not scary dictator!

The position of benevolent dictator has already been filled by Liberosia.

The Human-Equine Alliance wrote:#BeuguosiesDictatorships

You should move a puppet here.

By the way, was Funky elected?

Muh Roads wrote:The position of benevolent dictator has already been filled by Liberosia.

This is true

This might seem silly, but I was thinking maybe in our Wiki pages/factbooks/whatever on previous presidencies we could have a Wikipedia-style portrait of the President at the top of the article. Instead of using real pictures of the presidents, we could make our own.

Here's what I've got for my article so far: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6c/Matthew_Perry_as_Chandler_Bing.jpg

Pevvania wrote:You should move a puppet here.

It's hard to deal with two accounts for me..

A matter of Forgetfulness and complication of simple tasks.

I moved one here but it got CTE'd because I neglected it. I'll resurrect it tonight I guess.

Pevvania wrote:By the way, was Funky elected?

He got the seat by default.

North Korea-Chan wrote:Empty spot on a map? *winders if can have it*

Jambion wrote:Can I have Canada and America?

You two, read the map factbook and it'll tell you all about it.

Pevvania wrote:Congratulations to President [nation=short]Miencraft[/nation] for having the smallest welfare state in Libertatem!

Hooray!

Also, here's a WA proposal to "Repeal "Condemn North Korea"":

"North Korea is a dictatorship with very little rights for its citizens."

seeking any questions or debate regarding BRA.

The Human-Equine Alliance wrote:My last nation haf almost 10 times your nations population.

I have 4 million over you currently.

CUTE! *clings to*

For the first time since its formation, the RLP has been reduced to a single seat on the Board. However, it maintains a majority as ACOP Boardsmen Conservative Idealism and Funkytopia are caucusing with the RLP.

Lack There Of wrote:seeking any questions or debate regarding BRA.

If there are honestly no issues, and I know someone has one somewhere, then this ought to be voted on. But again, I'm going to stress that a hearty debate would be ideal before voting procedures. Sorry if i missed one this weekend, but currently i am here to explain, compromise on, or stubbornly defend any point of this amendment at this time.

Lack There Of wrote:If there are honestly no issues, and I know someone has one somewhere, then this ought to be voted on. But again, I'm going to stress that a hearty debate would be ideal before voting procedures. Sorry if i missed one this weekend, but currently i am here to explain, compromise on, or stubbornly defend any point of this amendment at this time.

Cut out Section II. I think that you should also affirm that deputies are still members of the House. Apart from that, it has my approval.

Pevvania wrote:By the way, was Funky elected?

It was a Stalinist election due to the fact that there were no challengers.

Lack There Of wrote:If there are honestly no issues, and I know someone has one somewhere, then this ought to be voted on. But again, I'm going to stress that a hearty debate would be ideal before voting procedures. Sorry if i missed one this weekend, but currently i am here to explain, compromise on, or stubbornly defend any point of this amendment at this time.

Pevvania wrote:Cut out Section II. I think that you should also affirm that deputies are still members of the House. Apart from that, it has my approval.

I'll also approve the amendment with Pev's changes in place.

Pevvania wrote:Cut out Section II. I think that you should also affirm that deputies are still members of the House. Apart from that, it has my approval.

I concur that an article reaffirming deputies' position in the house would be beneficial, and will work that in.

Regarding section II, It is my firm belief that this would be a needed and acceptable check on executive authority. The president still retains the authority to make the choice, his decision must simply be reaffirmed by consent of the board.

I will concede this point if enough voters view this as an overreach of the legislator then it will be removed in order to address the deputy issue. I would warn that a failure to check this now could lead to a more proactive use of the impeachment power and ultimately greater regional instability. The precedent has already been set by the impeachment of GID and such actions will only become more prevalent with out more safe checks in the system.

North Korea-Chan wrote:CUTE! *clings to*

Oh boy. Let's not NKC...

The Human-Equine Alliance wrote:Oh boy. Let's not NKC...

You two do color-coordinate well!

Funkytopia wrote:You two do color-coordinate well!

...Indeed.

The Human-Equine Alliance wrote:...Indeed.

ooohh.. *tries not to cling to* We can't risk baby nations happening..

North Korea-Chan wrote:ooohh.. *tries not to cling to* We can't risk baby nations happening..

Yes that is true. We can't let that happen can we, bae?

Lack There Of wrote:I concur that an article reaffirming deputies' position in the house would be beneficial, and will work that in.

Regarding section II, It is my firm belief that this would be a needed and acceptable check on executive authority. The president still retains the authority to make the choice, his decision must simply be reaffirmed by consent of the board.

I will concede this point if enough voters view this as an overreach of the legislator then it will be removed in order to address the deputy issue. I would warn that a failure to check this now could lead to a more proactive use of the impeachment power and ultimately greater regional instability. The precedent has already been set by the impeachment of GID and such actions will only become more prevalent with out more safe checks in the system.

Going to throw this out there. How many feel that section two would be better off trashed?

Lack There Of wrote:Going to throw this out there. How many feel that section two would be better off trashed?

I do. I don't know much about the customs of the law in this region, but I agree with the Libertatem General Pevvania.

I am hungry..

Jambion wrote:blahblah

*Grabs and stares at*

North Korea-Chan wrote:I am hungry..

*Grabs and stares at*

Whatever would you like to eat Madame?

The Human-Equine Alliance wrote:Whatever would you like to eat Madame?

*Blinks at and stares at Jambion again*

North Korea-Chan wrote:*Blinks at and stares at Jambion again*

...Okay then.

I can't wait for October 27th/28th

Zombies! Zombies! Zombies!

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I can't wait for October 27th/28th

Zombies! Zombies! Zombies!

Is that when it happens? * Will need to know so vacation time can be planned*

The Human-Equine Alliance wrote:...Okay then.

You won't be too sad if that nation suddenly vanishes and cutest Korea grows slightly larger right?

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I can't wait for October 27th/28th

Zombies! Zombies! Zombies!

I'll get my specifically anti-Zombie guns out of my gun room.

North Korea-Chan wrote:Is that when it happens? * Will need to know so vacation time can be planned*

You won't be too sad if that nation suddenly vanishes and cutest Korea grows slightly larger right?

Not at all.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/Total_health_expenditure_per_capita%2C_US_Dollars_PPP.png

Whatever happened to the Libertatem wikia idea?

Isn't Obamacare great?

Really, America will always be spending more for healthcare, simply because it's a large country and you can't account for everyone.

Jambion wrote:Whatever happened to the Libertatem wikia idea?

The lack of interest in the idea is reflective of how many people would actually use a Libertatem wiki.

I sleepy now!

Jambion wrote:I am small helpless nation!

*Grabs and runs away with*

Miencraft wrote:The lack of interest in the idea is reflective of how many people would actually use a Libertatem wiki.

Truth.

Apparently there is a similar lack of interest in Board transparency and Lack's amendment. Grrreat.

Lack There Of wrote:Going to throw this out there. How many feel that section two would be better off trashed?

I understand that the legislature can often serve the executive branch better when allow advice and consent over appointees. However, for the particular case of Libertatem, I get the sense that it would just result in delaying confirmation of managers at a time when we need all the help we can get.

Section 2 should be scrapped from the current BRA draft.

Miencraft wrote:The lack of interest in the idea is reflective of how many people would actually use a Libertatem wiki.

Can I do one anyway?

It's always laws and politics with you people. Zzzz...

Jambion wrote:Can I do one anyway?

Nobody's going to stop you, but personally I wouldn't put it into the WFE unless it gets a lot of usage.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:It's always laws and politics with you people. Zzzz...

Well, we've kinda gone over these two issues several times.

Mr. Chair, can't we just call a vote on the Board voting log? If you like, I can telegram Amarican, RWN, and Ankha... Hopefully, I can pester them into voting on the issue.

Very well.

There is a request to establish Board precedent such that each Chairman is expected to keep a public log of votes (for example, a factbook) made by all Board members during their term so that people know how their elected officials voted (you know, for posterity). Shall we make it so?

Voting starts now. I say AYE.

Does anyone have a list of Presidents?

I did some digging through the history link for the region and got all but the first and third presidents

Jambion wrote:I did some digging through the history link for the region and got all but the first and third presidents

Well, who've you got so far?

I think I might remember the ones you seek, but I'm not quite sure.

Is there any reason why The Black Riders use our region as a puppet storage?

Whazz That Puppet

Bobmoran17

Uehenneunejrehn

Miencraft wrote:Well, who've you got so far?

I think I might remember the ones you seek, but I'm not quite sure.

All but the first and third.

1 ?

2 Lone Star

3 ?

4 Snabagag

5 Pevvania

6 Humpheria

7 Miencraft

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:There is a request to establish Board precedent such that each Chairman is expected to keep a public log of votes (for example, a factbook) made by all Board members during their term so that people know how their elected officials voted (you know, for posterity). Shall we make it so?

Voting starts now.

AYE

Funkytopia wrote:AYE

Aye. tho i'm not technically a citizen until the 10th.

Renegalis wrote:Aye. tho i'm not technically a citizen until the 10th.

Technically, you're not technically a citizen until you apply after becoming eligible.

Jambion wrote:All but the first and third.

1 ?

2 Lone Star

3 ?

4 Snabagag

5 Pevvania

6 Humpheria

7 Miencraft

Ah, not who I was remembering then.

No matter. A quick trip to the internet archives reveals...

absolutely nothing.

I remember we used to have a list of all the presidents off-site somewhere, but I do believe that list has been lost long ago. I think you could ask Pev about it.

I already applied I will activate the 10th according to Muh Roads telegram

Jambion wrote:I did some digging through the history link for the region and got all but the first and third presidents

Jambion wrote:All but the first and third.

1 ?

2 Lone Star

3 ?

4 Snabagag

5 Pevvania

6 Humpheria

7 Miencraft

You forgot the great Barack Hussein Obama!

Barry Obama wrote:You forgot the great Barack Hussein Obama!

Oy vey....

Renegalis wrote:I already applied I will activate the 10th according to Muh Roads telegram

Then take this as an early welcome to the halls of citizenship.

Thank you Mr. President

Renegalis wrote:I already applied I will activate the 10th according to Muh Roads telegram

Yep.

Barry Obama wrote:You forgot the great Barack Hussein Obama!

Oh...oh..oh... Obama??

The mods killed my puppet storage region... Oh well, at least now I don't have to keep a puppet there each update.

Muh Roads wrote:Oh...oh..oh... Obama??

Sounds like you had an orgasm while reciting the name of a god, I'm used to it.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Is there any reason why The Black Riders use our region as a puppet storage?

Whazz That Puppet

Bobmoran17

Uehenneunejrehn

We made a secret imperialistic pact with them against the commies.

Barry Obama wrote:Sounds like you had an orgasm while reciting the name of a god, I'm used to it.

I suspect Michelle is a very UN happy woman.

Muh Roads wrote:I suspect Michelle is a very UN happy woman.

She is very unhappy... the whole deal with the U.S. involvement with ISIL was over a dispute of her not giving me a funky munch.

libertatem.wikia.com

All government officials have been added. I will make more on requests.

[Quote=barry_obama;8063443]She is very unhappy... the whole deal with the U.S. involvement with ISIL was over a dispute of her not giving me a funky munch.[/quote]

http://m.thenewamerican.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thenewamerican.com%2Fusnews%2Fitem%2F19192-michelle-obama-criticizes-america-at-un-for-treatment-of-women&utm_referrer=#2714

Was the background behind the "UN" part. Terrible joke I know.

*lattesalute* my friend.

Jambion wrote:libertatem.wikia.com

All government officials have been added. I will make more on requests.

Hey that's pretty cool Jambion. Great job.

Muh Roads wrote:Hey that's pretty cool Jambion. Great job.

Thanks!

Jambion wrote:libertatem.wikia.com

All government officials have been added. I will make more on requests.

Nicely done!

Tundrania was our first Delegate

Liberosia wrote:Tundrania was our first Delegate

Who was the third?

Jambion wrote:Who was the third?

Tundrania is counted as the first and third President. His first term lasted 27 days, and then President Lone Star served for 2 days, and then Tundrania became President a second time for 14 days.

Good job, Jambion!

I would advise adding to the page of each president, including mine, that we were not presidents then as the role didn't exist. Everyone knew us simply as "The Delegate" and that is worth noting.

Within 24 hours I will be drafting a voting reform amendment to make voting less of a better then 2 evils system.

Here is a video to explain it better.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3Y3jE3B8HsE

Snabagag wrote:Good job, Jambion!

I would advise adding to the page of each president, including mine, that we were not presidents then as the role didn't exist. Everyone knew us simply as "The Delegate" and that is worth noting.

Good point, but the Fifth Amendment retroactively renamed the delegate the President.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Within 24 hours I will be drafting a voting reform amendment to make voting less of a better then 2 evils system.

Here is a video to explain it better.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3Y3jE3B8HsE

I like your attitude, but such a voting system would be completely unnecessary at this point in time. When I presided over electoral reform, I briefly considered alternatives to first-past-the-post. But adopting anything else would be frivolous right now.

Nearly all elections are two-candidate races because of our small size, and our parties system is not very strong. So I see no need for such a reform.

I see your point pev. I will put this in a file for later then. :)

The Amarican Empire wrote:I see your point pev. I will put this in a file for later then. :)

Cool. I'm not opposed to such a system, and we may need one in the future, but right now I think we're too small for it.

[B]Bonjour, Comrades[/B] ^_^

Zenny Ambassador wrote:[B]Bonjour, Comrades[/B] ^_^

Welcome, Zenny!

Pevvania wrote:Welcome, Zenny!

*waves* Hi Pev :) Lovely to see you again. Been a long time since I've been here!

Zenny Ambassador wrote:*waves* Hi Pev :) Lovely to see you again. Been a long time since I've been here!

Great to have you back.

Zenny Ambassador wrote:[B]Bonjour, Comrades[/B] ^_^

Morning Putin *lattesalute*

Hello all. What's happening?

Renegalis wrote:Hello all. What's happening?

Change... Hope...

Barry Obama wrote:Morning Putin *lattesalute*

I won't even comment on your nation. Not touching that with a 20 foot pole x)

Yeah he promised hope and the change came when it changed from hope to hell.

Zenny Ambassador wrote:I won't even comment on your nation. Not touching that with a 20 foot pole x)

Oh but my administration believes that more people in society should be touching others with their poles, it should be embraced.

Renegalis wrote:Yeah he promised hope and the change came when it changed from hope to hell.

I was speaking of hope for myself, I was elected twice so it went from hope to heaven.

Real-Life politics are too divisive and dull for my taste ^_^ Ruins so many good potential NS relationships.

Zenny Ambassador wrote:Real-Life politics are too divisive and dull for my taste ^_^ Ruins so many good potential NS relationships.

As long as you voted for me, I agree with you. *puts a Obama Bumpersticker on your back*

Barry Obama wrote:As long as you voted for me, I agree with you. *puts a Obama Bumpersticker on your back*

You're far too conservative and capitalist for my RL tastes x)

Zenny Ambassador wrote:You're far too conservative and capitalist for my RL tastes x)

Now look here... I am about as conservative and capitalist as Ellen DeGeneres is straight... We are on the same side here. Have hope.

Question: what are your thoughts on UKIP?

Pevvania wrote:Question: what are your thoughts on UKIP?

If you wanna be my liberal, you gotta get with my friends. The UKIP does not wanna get with my friends, therefor they are not my liberals. And uhhh baby got back... I'm chillin' up in the white hizzy with Biggie and Tupac.

Barry Obama wrote:If you wanna be my liberal, you gotta get with my friends. The UKIP does not wanna get with my friends, therefor they are not my liberals. And uhhh baby got back... I'm chillin' up in the white hizzy with Biggie and Tupac.

That post gave me cancer

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