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Roads,

1. What I'd your view on strengthening the power of referendums?

2. Would you agree to Immigration reform?

3. What reforms,laws,or amendments would you be in favor of making?

1. What I'd your view on strengthening the power of referendums?

Referendums can be a useful tool, that said, the way Libertatem is currently set up; every member nation who is not a part of higher government resides in the house. Therefor, I do not see referendums specifically as a necessary expansion of power. However, I am in favor of house reform and expanding the capabilities of the house as a whole. I'm not going to claim to be as populist as you are, but I do feel that the house is a valuable resource that is often neglected. My theory is that is due to the large amount of inactive members in Libertatem. My recruiting strategy will definitely change that.

2. Would you agree to Immigration reform?

I would like to see it be easier for individuals from well established allied regions be able to move into Libertatem with greater ease. If elected, I will work with IA manager Miencraft to see if we can create or amend any acts that involve citizenship. My cabinet will be expected to work as a team, something I feel has not been done enough in the past.

3. What reforms,laws,or amendments would you be in favor of making?

If it wasn't obvious enough before, every single act involving the military will come under review. Including my written act, ARMA. I will also be pushing for acts involving recruitment quotas.

Thank you for responding to my questions. I would say good luck in the elections but I see that you do not need it.

The United Libertarian American Republic wrote:Thank you for responding to my questions. I would say good luck in the elections but I see that you do not need it.

Things can change in a heartbeat my friend, I wish you luck as well. Know that if I'm elected I will always have open ears, I plead with any of you that if you see I problem that I can directly deal with please bring it to my attention. I will do my best to resolve all discrepancies.

I support both candidates - either one would be an excellent successor for the Presidency, and they share many things in common - including impressive track records, albeit of different sorts, and strong conservative/libertarian values.

I think what the citizens of Libertatem are deciding in this election is what they want their future leader to promote: tradition, and the unease that comes with it, or the uncertainty of progress. Public opinion over these two ideals has long been divided, and this vote might gauge which matters most to us at this point in time.

Post self-deleted by Yrellian Confederacy.

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:Hmm, the minority that is willing to attack a candidate that obviously transcends petty party politics and accusing the Manager of Internal Affairs for voter fraud is really out in droves tonight.

I have never accused Mien of anything, but if you really think that you can discover if a nation is a puppet or not by asking them 4 questions, then keep dreaming.

This is how the game is made, puppets are a common thing, and most of the time undistinguishable from real nations.

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:I have never accused Mien of anything, but if you really think that you can discover if a nation is a puppet or not by asking them 4 questions, then keep dreaming.

This is how the game is made, puppets are a common thing, and most of the time undistinguishable from real nations.

I have my ways. The process involves much more scrutiny than you think.

Yeah, sometimes they slip through, but for the most part I can get rid of puppets and enemies when they apply.

Fellow Libertarians or Conservative Leaning Libertarians,

By now you have seen the organization and strength of the RLP. I believe that we do not have the numbers or organization to win this battle. Because of that I formally announce a suspension of my campaign. Just because we have lost this fight does not mean we have lost the war of ideas. We must organize,grow,and Unite our movement. We must capture the Board first and then move to take the Presidency.I know this may look like we are retreating like the French but we are not surrendering to the RLP.

We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender,(Winston Churchill) we will be back. We will fight for the Presidency again. But we must conserve our gunpowerder. We outgun in ideas but they serverly outnumber us. Let our movement grow and prosper and we will take this government. We will win the war of ideas in the long run.

Thank you,

May fate forever be in Libertatems favor.

Congratulations, President-Elect Muh Roads!

Amarican, I'm a bit shocked to see you resign so early in the race. But let this not be a victory for the RLP, rather, a victory for Libertatem. I aim to see this region more unified than ever before, working as a well oiled machine to take down our enemies.

Miencraft, Pevvania

*coughthenparticipateplscough*

Republic Of Minerva wrote:*coughthenparticipateplscough*

Tell me where to go! :l

Republic Of Minerva wrote:*coughthenparticipateplscough*

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:Sir, under my Presidency he was a sergeant in the Active Corps. He served honorably on multiple missions including the TFI liberation, of which he was the commanding officer. He was honorably discharged when he CTE'd.

After the recent administration, this region's neglected military needs a soldier in command like Muh. This region as a whole needs a patriot like Muh.

I respect everyone's assistance there, despite my occasional frustrations. And I appreciate Muh's contributions as well.

The United Libertarian American Republic wrote:Man am i being raped by muh roads in this election or what. Congratulations to the Roads campaign.

Didn't want a president who jokes about rape anyways.

Hallo Island

Congratulations to President-Elect Muh Roads! I look forward to once again taking on the role of Military Manager.

Between October 2013 and August 2014, the RLP won four straight Presidential Elections. Let's see how man we can win this time! :)

The Reaganist Libertarian Party - Liberty, Strength, Republic

Hallo Island

The United Libertarian American Republic wrote:My dear Hump,

You would not listen to my policies even if I had written that in proper grammar. You are loyal to the RLP,and the RLP is committed to an endless war to destroy the rights of Communists to follow any government they choose. At least I am presenting my policies. My opponent has not been active all day let alone spread his message.

Amarican, since I (and Minerva) am responsible for shaping the War into what it is today, I can say with a lot of confidence that this is a massive oversimplification. We don't destroy the rights of anyone. In fact, we defend the rights of those abroad from the Communists that seek to crush them. If we destroyed the rights of Communists then they wouldn't be allowed in the region.

I guess you could say that makes me a combo-breaker.

Speaking of combos, have any of you got Mortal Kombat X?

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It seems the region is divided. The new issue is ending vs continuing the controversial War on State Socialism. Sad how ignorance always prevails in this region when we discuss "statist" ideologies.

Alderney And Liberty City wrote:It seems the region is divided. The new issue is ending vs continuing the controversial War on State Socialism. Sad how ignorance always prevails in this region when we discuss "statist" ideologies.

What are you on about? Those who oppose the war are nothing but a vocal minority. This election proves it. And why is it "ignorant" to oppose moral and economic illiteracy?

Miencraft, Muh Roads

Pevvania wrote:Speaking of combos, have any of you got Mortal Kombat X?

I want it..

Pevvania

Muh Roads wrote:I want it..

Same here. MK 9 was an excellent game. Fantastic mechanics, endless hours of gameplay and crisp graphics to boot.

Pevvania wrote:And why is it "ignorant" to oppose moral and economic illiteracy?

Because obviously it's state socialism and not Communism, duh.

Alderney And Liberty City

Pevvania wrote:What are you on about? Those who oppose the war are nothing but a vocal minority. This election proves it. And why is it "ignorant" to oppose moral and economic illiteracy?

Because you have a war on something that is extremely small on Nationstates. Marxist-Leninism is NOT communism, and neither is socialism. Communism is something that doesn't exist on this game. It's ignorant to call a region like the Communist Bloc communist when it is Marxist. The region's "communist" name is purely cosmetic. Why do you think so many regions hate Libertatem? Because they can't comprehend the difference and display apathy when people like me try to explain it.

Hallo Island

They hate us cause they ain't us.

...sorry I had too.

Pevvania, Alderney And Liberty City

Jakob Mauvillon, early German liberal, born in 1743 in Leipzig, theorized that the functions of the state could be supplanted by the free market. He was, in his letters, also a fervent advocate of the freedom of press, association, and religion.

This means that the earliest advocate of what would be called right-libertarianism or classical liberalism, predated the entire socialist movement by half a century, if more.

Eat it ancoms.

Hallo Island

Muh Roads wrote:They hate us cause they ain't us.

...sorry I had too.

Lol, is that a quote from The Interview that I hear? (Rhetorical question)

Muh Roads

Alderney And Liberty City wrote:Because you have a war on something that is extremely small on Nationstates. Marxist-Leninism is NOT communism, and neither is socialism. Communism is something that doesn't exist on this game. It's ignorant to call a region like the Communist Bloc communist when it is Marxist. The region's "communist" name is purely cosmetic. Why do you think so many regions hate Libertatem? Because they can't comprehend the difference and display apathy when people like me try to explain it.

Just so you know, my last post was sarcasm.

I kind of thought it'd be obvious by now that half of what I post is, in fact, sarcastic.

Anyways, do you really think the NS left hates us because we don't acknowledge what basically amounts to an insignificant difference between any number of equally flawed ideologies? They don't care. They'll call themselves communist all they want, even if they aren't, and we'll call them communist all we want, even if they aren't. Why? Because no matter what we do, no matter how many times we change our flag, no matter how many communist regions we ally with, they're still going to want us dead. Do you really expect anyone to care about some ridiculous title affixed to some equally ridiculous ideology? It all seems to boil down to being politically correct. Well, I've got three words for that: Screw political correctness. It's communism, essentially. Doesn't matter what silly title you put on it, at the end of the day it's communism or socialism. It's easier to generalize all that as communism, so you know what? We do.

Pevvania, The New United States

Miencraft wrote:Just so you know, my last post was sarcasm.

I kind of thought it'd be obvious by now that half of what I post is, in fact, sarcastic.

Anyways, do you really think the NS left hates us because we don't acknowledge what basically amounts to an insignificant difference between any number of equally flawed ideologies? They don't care. They'll call themselves communist all they want, even if they aren't, and we'll call them communist all we want, even if they aren't. Why? Because no matter what we do, no matter how many times we change our flag, no matter how many communist regions we ally with, they're still going to want us dead. Do you really expect anyone to care about some ridiculous title affixed to some equally ridiculous ideology? It all seems to boil down to being politically correct. Well, I've got three words for that: Screw political correctness. It's communism, essentially. Doesn't matter what silly title you put on it, at the end of the day it's communism or socialism. It's easier to generalize all that as communism, so you know what? We do.

The radical right winger finally decides to show himself. *golfclap* Keep ranting, tea-party boy. Keep ranting.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem, Hallo Island, Midland County

Republic Of Minerva wrote:The radical right winger finally decides to show himself. *golfclap* Keep ranting, tea-party boy. Keep ranting.

u wot m8.

You already knew that's how I felt about that. I'd expressed that several times before.

Just, y'know, with different audiences, like Time.

Hallo Island, Humpheria In Libertatem, Midland County

Alderney And Liberty City wrote:Because you have a war on something that is extremely small on Nationstates. Marxist-Leninism is NOT communism, and neither is socialism. Communism is something that doesn't exist on this game. It's ignorant to call a region like the Communist Bloc communist when it is Marxist. The region's "communist" name is purely cosmetic. Why do you think so many regions hate Libertatem? Because they can't comprehend the difference and display apathy when people like me try to explain it.

You do realize that marx is the father of communism

Right-Winged Nation wrote:You do realize that marx is the father of communism

Of course. Marxist practiced on Nationstates however has a mix of Marxism, Leninism, Stalinism, and Nationalism. I call in Marxism because it's more simpler to say.

Miencraft wrote:Just so you know, my last post was sarcasm.

I kind of thought it'd be obvious by now that half of what I post is, in fact, sarcastic.

Anyways, do you really think the NS left hates us because we don't acknowledge what basically amounts to an insignificant difference between any number of equally flawed ideologies? They don't care. They'll call themselves communist all they want, even if they aren't, and we'll call them communist all we want, even if they aren't. Why? Because no matter what we do, no matter how many times we change our flag, no matter how many communist regions we ally with, they're still going to want us dead. Do you really expect anyone to care about some ridiculous title affixed to some equally ridiculous ideology? It all seems to boil down to being politically correct. Well, I've got three words for that: Screw political correctness. It's communism, essentially. Doesn't matter what silly title you put on it, at the end of the day it's communism or socialism. It's easier to generalize all that as communism, so you know what? We do.

Assumptions assumptions assumptions. I've worked with the left community for almost four years now and almost everyone i've talked to has cited the War on Communism as the main reason for hating Libertatem.

Alderney And Liberty City wrote:Of course. Marxist practiced on Nationstates however has a mix of Marxism, Leninism, Stalinism, and Nationalism. I call in Marxism because it's more simpler to say.

Assumptions assumptions assumptions. I've worked with the left community for almost four years now and almost everyone i've talked to has cited the War on Communism as the main reason for hating Libertatem.

Ann's we should care why? If basing our policies on the wants of our enemies didn't work for President Condealism, what makes you think it would work for you? We should not guide our region based on our enemies. Is the US changing urea flag to the ISIS flag because the Islamic State hates them.

Miencraft

Alderney And Liberty City wrote:Assumptions assumptions assumptions. I've worked with the left community for almost four years now and almost everyone i've talked to has cited the War on Communism as the main reason for hating Libertatem.

Oh, yeah, they'll say so, but really they just want us out of here for one reason or another.

It's easy to lie. Doesn't matter how long you worked with them, they're lying to you. They hate us because they hate the idea of us as a region. Nothing we do to reform the War will stop that. The best we can do is ally with the sensible regions who aren't liable to corruption by those who believe in such a thing as "left unity" that these regions tend to preach so much about.

Miencraft wrote:Oh, yeah, they'll say so, but really they just want us out of here for one reason or another.

It's easy to lie. Doesn't matter how long you worked with them, they're lying to you. They hate us because they hate the idea of us as a region. Nothing we do to reform the War will stop that. The best we can do is ally with the sensible regions who aren't liable to corruption by those who believe in such a thing as "left unity" that these regions tend to preach so much about.

Have we tried to reform the war? They might change if we do.

The United Libertarian American Republic wrote:Have we tried to reform the war? They might change if we do.

We've tried conforming with what they want, and it's proven to not work at all.

There's just no pleasing them, so the only way to end the War permanently is to win.

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:If basing our policies on the wants of our enemies didn't work for President Condealism

I beg your pardon?

O humpy you just woke up a sleeping giant. *hands CI his whip*

The United Libertarian American Republic wrote:O humpy you just woke up a sleeping giant. *hands CI his whip*

*grabs and studies it* What, you didn't polish the spikes?

Chairman's Statement

TNUS has drafted a proposed constitutional amendment extending the Board term from one month to two months. It has support from the Founder and the entirety of the Board, Managers and Presidency - except for Hallo Island. He has not responded to my telegrams asking for his support.

I would like to ask the House of Representatives to vote on this proposal so we can get it passed by the end of the month.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:I beg your pardon?

Don't beg, Mr. President. It displays inferiority.

Hallo Island supports the amendment. It's on track to pass.

Keepin' it old school.

I'm really confused about how we can be in a war on communism and still be worried about whether the NS left likes us or not. It's a game. Part of me wants to crush them because it would be fun, not because of some moral/political crusade.

Pevvania

Midland County wrote:I'm really confused about how we can be in a war on communism and still be worried about whether the NS left likes us or not. It's a game. Part of me wants to crush them because it would be fun, not because of some moral/political crusade.

Isn't it even more fun to combine the two?

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:Ann's we should care why? If basing our policies on the wants of our enemies didn't work for President Condealism, what makes you think it would work for you? We should not guide our region based on our enemies. Is the US changing urea flag to the ISIS flag because the Islamic State hates them.

Your back to square one. I was trying to establish a broad broad different between the "communism" you are fighting for and actual communism. You don't need to care, and if you don't then it just shows how much you really care about the Nationstates community and gaining further allies, but at least show that you understand the difference, rather than acting like a Reaganist Propaganda machine that associates the word "communist" with "the greatest evil of manking."

Miencraft wrote:Oh, yeah, they'll say so, but really they just want us out of here for one reason or another.

It's easy to lie. Doesn't matter how long you worked with them, they're lying to you. They hate us because they hate the idea of us as a region. Nothing we do to reform the War will stop that. The best we can do is ally with the sensible regions who aren't liable to corruption by those who believe in such a thing as "left unity" that these regions tend to preach so much about.

Your wrong Mien. UCR would have allied with Libertatem in a heartbeat if it wasn't for your lack luster "war."

Midland County wrote:I'm really confused about how we can be in a war on communism and still be worried about whether the NS left likes us or not. It's a game. Part of me wants to crush them because it would be fun, not because of some moral/political crusade.

It wouldn't do anything. They could just create more regions.

So given the chance that we did change the name, would you be more inclined to fight in the war? Because we could call it the war on super cute fluffy bunnies but that wouldn't change the overall goal.

The New United States, Humpheria In Libertatem

Alderney And Liberty City wrote:Your wrong Mien. UCR would have allied with Libertatem in a heartbeat if it wasn't for your lack luster "war."

Who cares? I'm sure the Internationale would want embassies, too, if we bowed down and started licking their boots.

Miencraft, Muh Roads, Humpheria In Libertatem

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Alderney And Liberty City wrote:Your wrong Mien. UCR would have allied with Libertatem in a heartbeat if it wasn't for your lack luster "war."

You're*

And the UCR was on our side for a relatively long time. They collapsed. Our War has nothing to do with that.

Besides the fact that becoming submissive to our enemies isn't going to change the fact that they want to remove us from the game entirely.

It's kind of like the situation with Israel; no matter how much they negotiate, everyone around them still wants them gone, so their only option is to fight back.

Pevvania, Humpheria In Libertatem

Now why can't stuff like this happen more often?

This is the best type of discussion to happen on the RMB, and they're not that common anymore.

Alderney And Liberty City, Humpheria In Libertatem

You understate our position in the NationStates community - we've endured many threats to our existence over the years, but our enemies seem to have realized all at once that we aren't going anywhere. The raids and harassment from the Fleet have stopped. The fascists are hesitant to offend us. And no one dares to wake our military up because they know damn well what will happen when they do. As multiple factions withdraw from the fray, the vast majority of recent skirmishes have instead been instigated by the Black Riders. Ideological raiding has reached a lull.

Are our enemies taking advantage of this cease-fire? Oh, absolutely - this does not change that they aren't a threat to us, and haven't been for some time. They stay their hand merely because they do not want to be on the receiving end of another CAPS or IS. This may be an uneasy peace, but who would dare contest our strong position?

We now face a more nuanced and delicate battle: public perception. This is a war where the doves are the masters of conquest and the hawks are the skittish objectors, and the objective is to expand our influence through tranquility rather than carnage. There is a whole world of potential allies out there, a tangled web of interregional intrigue to traverse, and time has proven that the most effective weapons on this nonviolent battlefield are diplomacy and tact.

I've heard many cries of "political correctness." I've been accused of pandering to our enemies. Our regional message board has often been filled with messages that condescend people of various ideologies, some of whom we've even fought to defend in battle! (For instance, the libertarian left, which many members of the RLP jokingly - or seriously, I find it difficult to tell sometimes - call an oxymoron.) Bear in mind that I don't expect our most brilliant military strategists to understand the more intricate subtleties of foreign affairs, but I am frustrated that they don't seem to comprehend a laughably simple concept:

Our old flag was a crossed-out hammer and sickle. Our Constitution demands that we fight with fascists against all communists. Both of these two things are loudly paraded, even after the former has been replaced - it should go without saying that this is not a very good first impression to leave on any anti-fascist, let alone any non-right libertarian. It's not enough that we are tolerant and accommodating; if we want to win friends and influence regions, we have to appear to be such as well.

Miencraft wrote:You're*

And the UCR was on our side for a relatively long time. They collapsed. Our War has nothing to do with that.

Besides the fact that becoming submissive to our enemies isn't going to change the fact that they want to remove us from the game entirely.

It's kind of like the situation with Israel; no matter how much they negotiate, everyone around them still wants them gone, so their only option is to fight back.

Referring to yesterday, where Pev came over and asked for embassies.

The New United States wrote:Who cares? I'm sure the Internationale would want embassies, too, if we bowed down and started licking their boots.

Most people outside Libertatem care.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:You understate our position in the NationStates community - we've endured many threats to our existence over the years, but our enemies seem to have realized all at once that we aren't going anywhere. The raids and harassment from the Fleet have stopped. The fascists are hesitant to offend us. And no one dares to wake our military up because they know damn well what will happen when they do. As multiple factions withdraw from the fray, the vast majority of recent skirmishes have instead been instigated by the Black Riders. Ideological raiding has reached a lull.

Are our enemies taking advantage of this cease-fire? Oh, absolutely - this does not change that they aren't a threat to us, and haven't been for some time. They stay their hand merely because they do not want to be on the receiving end of another CAPS or IS. This may be an uneasy peace, but who would dare contest our strong position?

We now face a more nuanced and delicate battle: public perception. This is a war where the doves are the masters of conquest and the hawks are the skittish objectors, and the objective is to expand our influence through tranquility rather than carnage. There is a whole world of potential allies out there, a tangled web of interregional intrigue to traverse, and time has proven that the most effective weapons on this nonviolent battlefield are diplomacy and tact.

I've heard many cries of "political correctness." I've been accused of pandering to our enemies. Our regional message board has often been filled with messages that condescend people of various ideologies, some of whom we've even fought to defend in battle! (For instance, the libertarian left, which many members of the RLP jokingly - or seriously, I find it difficult to tell sometimes - call an oxymoron.) Bear in mind that I don't expect our most brilliant military strategists to understand the more intricate subtleties of foreign affairs, but I am frustrated that they don't seem to comprehend a laughably simple concept:

Our old flag was a crossed-out hammer and sickle. Our Constitution demands that we fight with fascists against all communists. Both of these two things are loudly paraded, even after the former has been replaced - it should go without saying that this is not a very good first impression to leave on any anti-fascist, let alone any non-right libertarian. It's not enough that we are tolerant and accommodating; if we want to win friends and influence regions, we have to appear to be such as well.

I respectfully disagree to the utmost extent, Mr. President.

Now is not the time to give up on the War on Communism. You are correct in pointing out that our opponents seem to have, for the time being, slowed down their war of aggression. However, this should not compel us, too, to halt military operations. Indeed, we must renew our War with a newfound and militant ideological zeal. We must take advantage of our opponents' temporary lethargy.

Public perception is irrelevant to the perpetuation of our region and the achieving of its most fundamental goals. We should not care what the overwhelmingly-leftist NationStates community thinks of us. Indeed, I assert that willfully co-opting ourselves into the wider NationStates community would spell doom for our region and its unique identity. The War on Communism is the centerpiece of Libertatem's unique identity. There is not one other Libertarian region so devoted to and so well known for waging war upon the militant-left of NationStates. We, Libertatem, must be in the NationStates world, but we can not, and we must not be, of the NationStates world. Public perception be damned! What will we gain from giving up our War on Communism? What will we gain from relinquishing our most fundamental values? A few leftist friends? Some new friends that will provide us with absolutely nothing? An end to conflict with those who have always sought, and continue to seek, the outright destruction of right-wing regions, and particularly our own?

The key to strengthening our position in this game, indeed the key to a burgeoning community, may be found with 1) a renewed commitment to the War on Communism, 2) an indifference to the wailings and cries of those who sympathize with our statist foes, and 3) a renewed ideological-zeal.

We must rededicate our region to the waging of war upon the militant-left of NationStates, as well as upon all communities that dare to support the actions carried out by our statist opponents. We must unceasingly lay siege to the Communists and to the Fascists, and we must renew our commitment to the defense of liberty-lovers everywhere. We must refuse to give in to the demands of our opponents and those who do not support our War on Communism. We must, indeed, cease to care about what any other region thinks of us. We must become zealous defenders of liberty, right-wing warrior-ideologues. We must, with a newfound confidence, bear the torch of liberty in one hand and a sword in the other. These things, I know, will strengthen our region infinitely more than peace ever could. These things, I know, will result in a regional prosperity that could never come about through peacefully co-opting ourselves into the wider NationStates community. These things, I know, will attract to our region an entirely new generation of radically-liberty-minded warriors. These things, I know, will awaken the sleeping giant that is Libertatem. These things, I know, will result in a regional Renaissance, the likes of which have yet to be seen.

Only when we recommit to the War on Communism, only when we find a renewed and militant ideological zeal, and only when we decide that we will not give into the demands of our opponents will we witness a right-wing renaissance in Libertatem.

I encourage incoming President Muh Roads to consider my words, and I commend and thank him for his dedication to the War on Communism.

God Bless,

[nation=short]The New United States[/nation]

Miencraft, Pevvania, Muh Roads, Alderney And Liberty City

Alderney And Liberty City wrote:Referring to yesterday, where Pev came over and asked for embassies.

In response to the visit in question, I also found this:

"Not now. We are trying to ally ourselves with Leftist regions, and if we accept embassies, many regions could withdraw relations with us."

This is not because of our stance towards anything; it's because people are too busy trying not to step on the toes of those who have clearly shown that they don't want us to exist.

There's nothing we can do about that but exterminate them.

The New United States, Humpheria In Libertatem

5 Simple Steps to Restore the US Economy

1. Cut entitlements. Privatise Social Security, shift healthcare programs to the states and introduce competition to Medicare, Medicaid and US healthcare overall. This would reduce the federal government's unfunded liabilities, cut the deficit and debt and secure America's economic future.

2. Cut subsidy spending. Hundreds of billions could be saved every year by getting rid of costly, inefficient or harmful subsidies to agriculture, business, education and energy.

3. Freeze regulation. The regulatory burden has grown enormously since 2001, with polls indicating that over a third of small business owners see government as their most important challenge. Putting a freeze on all new regulations, cutting back the bureaucracies and implementing new rules like those requiring the repeal of two regulations for every new one imposed would all help to stimulate investment and increase economic freedom.

4. Cut taxes. After cutting spending, this can be done in numerous areas. The top 20%, for example, pay 84% of the federal income tax burden, meaning that eliminating it for every other American would incur small revenue losses in the short term, and perhaps lead to bigger gains in the long run. The corporation tax, which is the highest in the world, should be abolished, along with the estate tax, which costs as much to collect as it earns for the government.

5. Open borders and free trade. Free immigration would lead to numerous benefits for the US economy. Immigration leads to larger and more diverse labour markets, greater talent pools for employers and higher incomes for native workers as a result of economic expansion. One study found that that world GDP could potentially double as a result of global open borders. Free trade must also be pursued. It benefits all nations involved, meaning lower poverty rates in developing countries, lower prices in developed nations, and stronger economies overall. The Obama Administration should fast-track the TPP and the US-EU free trade agreement, and negotiate open borders across North America.

Miencraft, The New United States

I agree with TNUS's excellent speech on all parts except for the 'right-wing' bit. We are libertarians and conservatives, the former of whom are neither right- nor left-wing.

And Mr. President, after looking into the ideokogie intentions of the so-called "left-libertarians", I've concluded that most are statists who just want government and monopolised force to be executed by violent majorities of people rather than official state agents. I have, however, found a few types who can be described as genuinely libertarian leftists: geo-libertarians, left-wing market anarchists and left-voluntarists. The rest are often just state apologists.

Miencraft, Republic Of Minerva, Muh Roads

Pevvania wrote:ideokogie

Nice word.

Pevvania wrote:I agree with TNUS's excellent speech on all parts except for the 'right-wing' bit. We are libertarians and conservatives, the former of whom are neither right- nor left-wing.

And Mr. President, after looking into the ideokogie intentions of the so-called "left-libertarians", I've concluded that most are statists who just want government and monopolised force to be executed by violent majorities of people rather than official state agents. I have, however, found a few types who can be described as genuinely libertarian leftists: geo-libertarians, left-wing market anarchists and left-voluntarists. The rest are often just state apologists.

Look to the market anarchists. C4SS, Robert Long, Kevin Carson, Alliance of the Libertarian Left, to moderates like Mike Gravel and formerly Russel Means. The Fusionism ideology neglected a whole group of intellectuals just because we can't approach things from different angles. Nobody is against minor details like the philosophical basis of property rights, in fact these differences are arguably less than those between conservatives and libertarians. Nor are all libertarians against some forms of social justice, provided they are limited in scope and "aggression" (I am talking about the NIT). Psychology profiles shown that the attitudes of libertarians are closer to progressives than conservatives anyway.

Miencraft wrote:There's nothing we can do about that but exterminate them.

I'm feeling 1938.

I can't even use Google, yet somehow NationStates is still working. What is even happening right now

...But YouTube still works, because why wouldn't it? *sigh* Well, at least I can still listen to Fortside Rock Radio why I wonder why I can't access most of my other Internet communities.

Hi guys.

Miencraft

Hallo Island wrote:Hi guys.

WOAH.

WHAT.

Hallo Island

Hallo Island wrote:Hi guys.

Can I get a hallelujer!!!

Hallo Island

I guess we can revive my cult now. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hallo Island wrote:Hi guys.

Miencraft wrote:WOAH.

WHAT.

Hallo Island

Alright, everyone. As the incoming Reserve Forces commander, I'm going to start coordinating with Pev on the transfer of power.

All citizens not vested in regional military operations will need to endorse Muh starting on the 30th. RWN is going to be sworn in as AG by Yrellian earlier that day so he can then swear in Muh. Muh well then swear in his Cabinet and the transfer will be complete.

Hallo Island wrote:I guess i can revive my cult now. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

So I can quit the Holy Church of Roads?

Hallo Island

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HkAK9QRe4ds

I love Obama idgaf

The United Libertarian American Republic wrote:So I can quit the Holy Church of Roads?

Only if you want to get the hose

Hallo Island, Midland County

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:Alright, everyone. As the incoming Reserve Forces commander, I'm going to start coordinating with Pev on the transfer of power.

All citizens not vested in regional military operations will need to endorse Muh starting on the 30th. RWN is going to be sworn in as AG by Yrellian earlier that day so he can then swear in Muh. Muh well then swear in his Cabinet and the transfer will be complete.

We still got 73 minutes until the election ends. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

Muh Roads wrote:Only if you want to get the hose

#phrasing

Alderney And Liberty City wrote:We still got 73 minutes until the election ends. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

The transfer of power is serious business. It needs to be done as cleanly as possible. Of course, Roads doesn't need to be Delegate until May, but we still need to prepare.

Alderney And Liberty City wrote:We still got 73 minutes until the election ends. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

You know that Amarican already conceded right?

If you did, this is not a laughing matter.

I hope you left the presidential office just how Miencraft left it CI, with unrecognizable stains under the desk. I like those stains.

Alderney And Liberty City, Humpheria In Libertatem

Muh Roads wrote:I hope you left the presidential office just how Miencraft left it CI, with unrecognizable stains under the desk. I like those stains.

Eeeeeeeeeek

Humpheria In Libertatem

Post self-deleted by Miencraft.

Don't Ipian.

Miencraft, Republic Of Minerva, Muh Roads, Humpheria In Libertatem

Wait is he even still here? God, I'm so old.

Humpheria In Libertatem

Muh Roads wrote:I hope you left the presidential office just how Miencraft left it CI, with unrecognizable stains under the desk. I like those stains.

Muh, I've been in the office for four months. You can't expect me not to have made some changes.

...There are even more stains now.

Muh Roads

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:If you did, this is not a laughing matter.

?

It looks like Derp Kommune has fallen to almost 30 nations. That's half the size as they once were. Maybe in a couple of months they'll fall to the same inactivity that caused International Socialists to fall under.

Hallo Island

Congrats to Muh for his election as president of 'Tatem.

Muh Roads, Hallo Island, Humpheria In Libertatem

Republic Of Minerva wrote:It looks like Derp Kommune has fallen to almost 30 nations. That's half the size as they once were. Maybe in a couple of months they'll fall to the same inactivity that caused International Socialists to fall under.

Our tag raid had a lasting impact, it seems. I've barely heard a peep out of them since our bombing run in October.

Republic Of Minerva

Pevvania wrote:Our tag raid had a lasting impact, it seems. I've barely heard a peep out of them since our bombing run in October.

Bombing run? What'd we do, click the endorsement button and then run around with outstretched arms making airplane noises?

Midland County wrote:Bombing run? What'd we do, click the endorsement button and then run around with outstretched arms making airplane noises?

Pretty much. These things mean a lot to the commies, though.

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:Congrats to Muh for his election as president of 'Tatem.

Thank you!

The holy church of roads will be moved yo under the Presidential desk. ;)

The United Libertarian American Republic wrote:The holy church of roads will be moved yo under the Presidential desk. ;)

Ehhhhhh

The United Libertarian American Republic wrote:We also have a new way of praying. The old hands together way is gone. Now you will have to come to church

,Prey then when you are done there will be a donation that you will leave on the carpet next to the other donations from other Church goers.

Maybe that's getting a little to explicit for innuendo stays.

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:Maybe that's getting a little to explicit for innuendo stays.

Yeah, let's have a petition to not be gross and creepy.

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