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So who wants to help me plan RLP tyranny and get the majority back

Miencraft wrote:But also Shallowell kinda needs citizenship...

I suppose I do... I had citizenship as Silver Chair and forgot that when I switched out that might change.

Shallowell wrote:I suppose I do... I had citizenship as Silver Chair and forgot that when I switched out that might change.

Now I see looking at the Fraud Act Section 2 Subsection 4 that I should be able to transfer my citizenship to this nation. Apologies for double post

Shallowell wrote:Now I see looking at the Fraud Act Section 2 Subsection 4 that I should be able to transfer my citizenship to this nation. Apologies for double post

Yeah, in six days, but elections will be over by then.

Miencraft wrote:Yeah, in six days, but elections will be over by then.

That's unfortunate. I wonder how cheesy it would be to run as Silver Chair...

Nah, other people are running for seat four so I'll back out.

If a party gets Four seats in two-3 elections straight the MPA will be reformed anf contact every party not in the majority or caucusing with them.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:If a party gets Four seats in two-3 elections straight the MPA will be reformed anf contact every party not in the majority or caucusing with them.

Ahh... just like old times.

Muh Roads wrote:Ahh... just like old times.

I will keep that thing just in case. My contribution to democracy to make sure this region doesn't become a screwed up America.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:I will keep that thing just in case. My contribution to democracy to incite morons and divide on partisan lines.

The New United States wrote:

NO!

The point is simply to make sure even if there is a major party that the Minor Parties have proper Representation even if not on the board

Unlike America

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:NO!

The point is simply to make sure even if there is a major party that the Minor Parties have proper Representation even if not on the board

Unlike America

That may be the point of it, but that's not what it did last time.

Miencraft wrote:That may be the point of it, but that's not what it did last time.

Not until I left and handed down the leadership. After I left it became a cult for Hallo.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:Not until I left and handed down the leadership. After I left it became a cult for Hallo.

It never really did what you wanted it to.

Miencraft wrote:It never really did what you wanted it to.

I left too early for it too..

Hallo had a cult? I want a cult.

Muh Roads wrote:Hallo had a cult? I want a cult.

Those who live by the cult, die by the cult.

Liberosia wrote:Those who live by the cult, die by the cult.

Those who don't obey Muh Roads doctrine get the hose.

Muh Roads wrote:Those who don't obey Muh Roads doctrine get the hose.

They also get sentenced to manual labor in some of my diamond mines.

Muh Roads wrote:Hallo had a cult? I want a cult.

MPA became a cult of personality for Hallo once I left...then he passed it to MR.T

Now it's under rightful management. I'll reactivate it if needed.

The Amarican Empire wrote:All hail the roads!

Your a good noodle. You don't get the hose today.

Muh Roads wrote:Your a good noodle. You don't get the hose today.

I am greatful dear roads.

black and yellow black and yellow

liberswag yolo

Some info about this Country

Government: Dictatorship Totalitarian Authoritarian

Leader: Al C.P Bodduh

Social Democratic Party of the DWMS [ Banned ]

Ideology: Social Democracy, Social Liberalism

Labor party [ Banned ]

Ideology: Democratic Socialism and Workers Rights

Communist party of the WMS [ Banned ]

Ideology: Marxist-Leninism

Militarized Nationalist Party [ All Government Positions]

Ideology: Social Conservatism, Nationalism, Fascism, State Capitalism, Juche and State Religion.

Islamist Party [ Banned ]

Ideology: Islam, Pan-Islam, Caliphate State

Underground Movements

Freedom Unity -Weak-

The Islamic Free Committee -High Risk-

I know you guys would live to live in it.

It sounds wonderful; just remove the government, the restrictions, the bans, the militarization, the nationalization, the indoctrination, the establishment of a state religion, and the cultural values of social conservatism for good measure, and I'd live there.

First Board election is up. Next is Seat 2 and then we're done.

Needless to say, no more candidates can announce at this point.

Miencraft wrote:First Board election is up. Next is Seat 2 and then we're done.

Needless to say, no more candidates can announce at this point.

Well, that's nice.

I know this defeats the point of having a political party, but I'm voting against party - partially because I don't want that many ACOP members on the Board (I don't like being accused of tyranny :P), and partially because Yr is a war hero who inspired me to name our tag raid "Operation: Banana Peel".

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Well, that's nice.

I know this defeats the point of having a political party, but I'm voting against party - partially because I don't want that many ACOP members on the Board (I don't like being accused of tyranny :P), and partially because Yr is a war hero who inspired me to name our tag raid "Operation: Banana Peel".

I tend to vote for the individual myself. Also, I'm not entirely sure I'd stay in ACOP indefinitely... I may start my own if I choose to reenter electoral politics again.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:It sounds wonderful; just remove the government, the restrictions, the bans, the militarization, the nationalization, the indoctrination, the establishment of a state religion, and the cultural values of social conservatism for good measure, and I'd live there.

I know you love it.

In economics we have a cute circular flow map and tomarrow we have to ruin it by adding government:(

And they ask what role the government has in a market economy. They list some things like redistribution and regulations and I am thinking none, the government should have no power in the market! Otherwise it's not a market economy it's mixed. #Ampericanpublicschooleducationproblems.

Next thing you know they try to teach us that 1+1=4!

Then speak up.

I do it all the time. Sure my Social Studies teachers usually hate or love me afterwards who else will point out the difference of Fascism, Stalinism, Marxism and Nazism in comparison to the others.

It's obvious that this isn't my thing, so I concede the race. Maybe next time.

I love both candidates. ....

The State Of Deseret wrote:Then speak up.

I do it all the time. Sure my Social Studies teachers usually hate or love me afterwards who else will point out the difference of Fascism, Stalinism, Marxism and Nazism in comparison to the others.

I do, sometimes.

They tell us that a free market is a mixed market too.

The Amarican Empire wrote:I love both candidates. ....

Owww

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA5vFkR4tV8

Youtube link doesn't work properly. Never mind, it was just Barack telling you that I love you back.

Jambion wrote:It's obvious that this isn't my thing, so I concede the race. Maybe next time.

I had the benefit of being an old member of Nationstates and Libertatem. But it feels nice to see young blood in our region, so keep your interest in our political life and you'll win the next election :)

Jambion wrote:It's obvious that this isn't my thing, so I concede the race. Maybe next time.

I'll let the poll run out regardless so that it's on record that it happened.

Could y'all support Technosocialism?

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?t=317698&f=20&view=unread#unread

I advise everyone here to vote against the current security council proposal. The "liberators" are led by North Korea, who have no interest in giving the delegacy back to the natives but locking up a region as a colony of Antifa.

Then let them have it. It's Antifa nothing wrong with Antifa

The State Of Deseret wrote:Then let them have it. It's Antifa nothing wrong with Antifa

Antifa in action: http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/anarc.jpg

Nothing hurts the poor more than breaking windows of the jobs they work at.

The State Of Deseret wrote:Could y'all support Technosocialism?

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?t=317698&f=20&view=unread#unread

Having techno before socialism doesn't make it more attractive in the the eyes of a libertarian.

Funkytopia wrote:I tend to vote for the individual myself. Also, I'm not entirely sure I'd stay in ACOP indefinitely... I may start my own if I choose to reenter electoral politics again.

Good to hear - I appreciate people's membership in ACOP, but all the same I can't accept blind devotion to it with a happy conscience.

The State Of Deseret wrote:Then let them have it. It's Antifa nothing wrong with Antifa

You know how we (usually) intervene when one of our allies is being raided, attempt to contact their founder, and expel the raiders in the meantime. And how after we do that, we help them find their old WFE and flag?

Antifa doesn't do that. They wait until a formerly "allied" region nears death, and they either raid it themselves or let it CTE, and refound it as a museum for their own imperialistic gain. They have no love for fellow anti-fascists.

Jambion wrote:It's obvious that this isn't my thing, so I concede the race. Maybe next time.

You're inexperienced and you ran against a more seasoned opponent. These things happen. I'm sure we'll warm up to you eventually.

Libertarian transhumanism>technosocialism

Free Markets, Human Improvement.

How would techno Capitalism work?

The Amarican Empire wrote:How would techno Capitalism work?

Competition would increase as the creation of new technologies would require more workers, more productivity, and be rare enough that it couldn't be distributed to everyone (at least at first). Technosocialism would ironically lead to stagnation.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Libertarian transhumanism>technosocialism

Free Markets, Human Improvement.

Kurzweil's second book on transhumanism is mind-blowing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Age_of_Spiritual_Machines

I feel that in techno Capitalism most jobs would be filled by robots leaving most of the nation unemployed. Sure politicians, nurses, business leaders, and Scientists would have jobs but the rest of society could be replaced by robots. So there would be mass poverty.

The Amarican Empire wrote:I feel that in techno Capitalism most jobs would be filled by robots leaving most of the nation unemployed. Sure politicians, nurses, business leaders, and Scientists would have jobs but the rest of society could be replaced by robots. So there would be mass poverty.

Are you sure about that?

If you watched the Willy Wonka movie, you'd recall what happened at the end, right?

Robots need repairs to. Or at least overseers.

Ya maybe 1 human to oversee and repair 20 robots. Wait; couldn't we have a robot oversee and repair other robots then have robots made by robots.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Ya maybe 1 human to oversee and repair 20 robots. Wait; couldn't we have a robot oversee and repair other robots then have robots made by robots.

That would be kind of a tall order - robots have a pretty high failure rate for most non-basic tasks, such as repair (or surgery, for that matter). I honestly can't see machines doing anything other than manual labor unaided, and even then, they'd need to be supervised.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:That would be kind of a tall order - robots have a pretty high failure rate for most non-basic tasks, such as repair (or surgery, for that matter). I honestly can't see machines doing anything other than manual labor unaided, and even then, they'd need to be supervised.

That maybe so until we discover Artificial intelligence then robots could do what we do to an extent.

The Amarican Empire wrote:That maybe so until we discover Artificial intelligence then robots could do what we do to an extent.

Programming a machine with great AI is hard enough when it doesn't automate its own operation. Robotics is no easy field.

I don't know anything about robotics so I'll take your word.

I hate Techno everything.

I believe humans should run their lives. Not let machines run our lives for us.

Sure they make everything easier, but in the extreme case of Techno-Socialism it basically replaced humans...

Socialism was based of Marxism. Marx warned against technology replacing workers. Socialist creates an ideology encouraging that.

The State Of Deseret wrote:I hate Techno everything.

I believe humans should run their lives. Not let machines run our lives for us.

Sure they make everything easier, but in the extreme case of Techno-Socialism it basically replaced humans...

Socialism was based of Marxism. Marx warned against technology replacing workers. Socialist creates an ideology encouraging that.

Well, I mean, it's kind of hard to have machines running people's lives if the machines are too stupid to maintain themselves.

<3 technolibertarianism

http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/21/5923015/rand-paul-courts-silicon-valley-with-techno-libertarianism

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I just noticed that Hallo has been in the Graveyard for the past 20 days.

Remember the days when he existed?

Miencraft wrote:Well, I mean, it's kind of hard to have machines running people's lives if the machines are too stupid to maintain themselves.

Then Scientists and Engineers. A technocrat is just an Oligarch whi runs robots.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:<3 technolibertarianism

http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/21/5923015/rand-paul-courts-silicon-valley-with-techno-libertarianism

The verge has no clue what Technocracy is.

The Amarican Empire wrote:I feel that in techno Capitalism most jobs would be filled by robots leaving most of the nation unemployed. Sure politicians, nurses, business leaders, and Scientists would have jobs but the rest of society could be replaced by robots. So there would be mass poverty.

Not necessarily. I think the result would be what's called a "post-scarcity" society, where basic needs such as food, clothing, shelter, medical care, and entertainment become so inexpensive that everyone can afford them or be provided with them at little cost. The debate over free market vs central planning would become less important (at least on a small scale) since nobody would be in want of anything. Large-scale projects would require some system of concentrating capital, but I think a free market could cope with that, similar to the open-source movement.

Inthink its impossible to please every want that the human mind can come up with.

A wise man once said "do or don't;there is no try"

The Amarican Empire wrote:A wise man once said "do or don't;there is no try"

That "wise man" also helped another old dude deceive a kid into believing his father was dead. When the kid found out his father was alive (and very evil), he called the two guys out on their bull. And what did the "wise man" and old dude do? They made up a bunch of mumbo-jumbo about their "certain point of view", that's what.

On an unrelated note, I wrote a long lecture about dealing with others on NationStates.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:On an unrelated note, I wrote a long lecture about dealing with others on NationStates.

That was a good read. Thanks for sharing

Shallowell wrote:That was a good read. Thanks for sharing

Thanks for reading :)

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:That "wise man" also helped another old dude deceive a kid into believing his father was dead. When the kid found out his father was alive (and very evil), he called the two guys out on their bull. And what did the "wise man" and old dude do? They made up a bunch of mumbo-jumbo about their "certain point of view", that's what.

Star wars?

Thats why I side with the sith.

Ah...I'm going back to revise my made up political ideology.

It'll be it'd second revision.

The Amarican Empire wrote: Thats why I side with the sith.

Okay, so where's the other one of you?

Ummm hmm. Muh roads is my master. Glory to the Muh Roads sith cult!

You know that, as per the tradition established by Darth Bane, one of you is going to have to kill the other at some point?

Or if we go into the expanded universe muh roads coukd be the sith emperor;leader of tons of sith.

What a sorry defeat for ACOP

Republic Of Minerva wrote:What a sorry defeat for ACOP

Doesn't matter - we caucus with the RLP anyway.

Jammy will have a better chance next time. He has a month to get to know and form bonds with people.

CUM caucuses with the MPA

The Amarican Empire wrote:CUM caucuses with the MPA

Dude...that typo...

No typo..... Thats the party initials used in the party. Pev just censored it to CHUM.

The Amarican Empire wrote:No typo..... Thats the party initials used in the party. Pev just censored it to CHUM.

I think that's probably a more embarrassing name than ACOP, lol

But hallo told me it was an awesome idea to name it cum. Im joking.

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More info in my factbook.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Ipian?

Is that you?

Haha funny general miv.

The Amarican Empire wrote:CUM caucuses with the MPA

...How?

I didn't activate it. Plan Mark 3 MPA Restoration hasn't yet happened.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:...How?

I didn't activate it. Plan Mark 3 MPA Restoration hasn't yet happened.

I think he means it caucuses with anyone who doesn't caucus with the RLP.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:I think he means it caucuses with anyone who doesn't caucus with the RLP.

So he cacuses with the Minor Party Alliance....against a party that's about to possibly be a minor one?

The Amarican Empire wrote:Or if we go into the expanded universe muh roads coukd be the sith emperor;leader of tons of sith.

Yes. Let the liberty flow through you.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:So he cacuses with the Minor Party Alliance....against a party that's about to possibly be a minor one?

The RLP is filling three seats this term - four, counting ACOP, if I win against Amar.

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