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I dont know, maybe...^
On a different note, I turned to the wrong channel accidentally, and was pleased to see that the Wizard of Oz had just started.
It's amazing, going back to these old movies and seeing stuff that they wouldn't allow anywhere near a modern one. And it's also amazing that I can never really see all the hidden messages about Capitalism that were apparently in the movie. Far as I know, there's some guy in some city made of emeralds and also shoes made of rubies and there's magic and bricks.
While I disagree with your views, I admire you for standing on your principles in the face of almost certain defeat.
There are a lot of hidden political messages in films. The LEGO Movie, for example, is probably the most libertarian mainstream film ever created.
Oh.. i teresting.
But, no. Seriously guys, why all the Nay votes? I would like to know what you don't like about it.
I was wondering the same thing.
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I worked hard on this amendment. If you're going to vote Nay, at least tell me why so I can fix it next time around. Rather than giving me a wall of wretched silence.
Its fattening the regional government
No, I thought we established this. He does not have any executive power. He is there only as an adviser and a contingency. It doesn't expand it because it does not add any power. I am a huge proponent of stopping the expand of the regional government, why would I expand it?
Not necessarily. Hopefully I'll set a precedent, if it passes, so that political allies in the Board are selected as the VP/running mate rather than nongovernment officials.
That's why he can hold any other position, he doesn't have any power.
So in other context you would not mind the us president having another VP of same pay, but just for advisory only.
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That's mostly what the actual vice-president is. Advice. Constitution doesn't really outline much for the VP, just that he works with the President and does things.
It is not the same thing as the RL vp. He is solely for the benefit of the President and the good of the region in an emergency. It also lays out a full Line of Succession in case we have like a mass-mod delete or the Pres leaves and followers follow. It's a good contingency. And I have no idea why your example would be relevant. No one's getting paid and the RL VP is already an advisory position.
Libertatem government officials aren't paid at all.
What's important about this proposed legislation is that it gives us a line of contingency. If we were to lose the President around the same time as a regional crisis, under current circumstances there would no doubt be some form of power struggle. But with this proposition, we actually have a clear line of contingency. It's a failsafe, a safety net. It isn't even a real government position, but more of a fancy title for the second in line.
And ours really wouldn't do much. Probably the most he'll do is travel on the President's behalf on foreign diplomacy trips. That's it. It also makes the President more flexible.
I implore the seven of you to reconsider your position on this important piece of legislation. In uncertain times, how could an non-expansionist safety net be a bad thing? You can all see the kind of things that are happening these days. I was a Boy Scout. My life motto is to "Be Prepared". Please, be prepared.
Gee thanks for the lesson guys I already knew what the Vice president does. I'm saying if there were a second VP for advisory. Which is essentialy what you guys are looking at.
But... the existing US VP is already advisory, so that's redundant and completely irrelevant.
How? We don't have a VP. As Chairman, the closest thing, I can attest that I really don't do much Veeping.
Considering you know exactly what Humpheria is proposing and know that it isn't an expansionist policy, why are you really against it?
I'm speaking using his example of the United States. If America were to have a second VP specifically for advice, as N. Prussia's example provides, said second VP would be redundant since the existing VP is already an advisor. Thus, the entire example is irrelevant.
There isn't an abstention option.
Just don't vote if you want to abstain. Rather than pulling it down.
Right now, the amendment is on track to passing. It has the approval of the President (me) and 3/5 Representatives of the House that are voting; a two thirds majority.
For those unacquainted with amendment procedure, see Article IV of the Constitution: http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_law_of_libertatem/detail=factbook/id=75156
Humpy is more of a Speaker of the House.
Pretty much. In executive forms of speaking, of course.
Hey!
I know you can't vote, but do you support the amendment?
I would like to take over the Imperial Libertarian party once lead by Ipian
Das cool bruh
Were you here during the Libertatem Empire?
I do, yes.
Kind of. I thought it was stupid.
That was before my time. Why was it stupid?
It was Libertatem, two small raider regions creating a bunch of communist regions then claiming they had defeated them.
Not true, Mister Chairman. All nations are apart of the House; you only need citizenship to stand in elections/other public office.
I thought you had to be a citizen to vote on legislation, too. Even better.
Completely untrue; they were refounds. When the founder of a region ceases to exist and all the other nations have left, the region CTEs as well. When this happens anyone can refound it. That is what we did and continue to do.
My appolagies thats what it looked like from the Ffs
You're right though, the Libertatem Empire was dumb and went against nearly all of our principles.
But as an imperialist I support the war on communism.
Ahem, did someone say the Empire was dumb?
The War is not imperialist. If anything it's anti-imperialist, since it's fighting the expansion of an Empire.
I wasn't around then, so I can't comment.
Same. Obviously.
Imperialist don't always mean holding ones land, but the dominace of ideas, culture, and superior economics. Often known as Neo-imperialism.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. It's goals were noble and accomplished a lot in terms of military actions, but at the end of the day it made us look like hypocritical neo-cons.
Ooh, ooh, I was!
From my experiences with it, it wasn't too bad, but looking back it definitely goes against our basic principles, and this current form of the War is much better.
So Bush-Obamanism?
I better go to bed now. 'Night everyone.
I remember the start of the empire. I didn't really agree with it totally but I didn't feel strongly enough either way to speak up.
Never heard of that.
nigh nigh
The Empire began the trend off small time territorial acquisition and added to the publicity efforts of the region. The IMPERIAL Act does not violate our principles; only the name seems to, but we called it empire simply to be provocative.
I have decided I want to be a lawyer in the Libertatem court system. I will argue on behalf of anyone who wishes me to, simply telegram me.
Aah, I'll stay up a bit longer. Hooray, 124 Libertarian Purity Score!
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_law_of_libertatem/detail=factbook/id=90958
And Actum, I believe there is a position called the People's Attorney in the constitution. You should check it out.
How I do so thoroughly enjoy this place. I've been thinking about writing a Regional Anthem
This would be a Good Anthem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu3rsha1ZtI&hd=1
That was a joke, right?
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now if i wanted to joke i would of posted this instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYMxOzxKYYo&hd=1
OOOooh ooOOHhh Battle Hymn Of The Republic
Good song.
Band Geeks say "I".
I vote yea
You're fired.
this is so Humpheria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt84J7U75e0&hd=1
What about this?
CORRUPTION! HYPOCRISY! ALL HAIL KING PEV!
i am going to find a song that reflects what i think of pevv.
Thank you.
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ok here is the song that reminds me of pevv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqd4VXZmxqw&hd=1
It weirds me out that I don't know any of your names.
i know your name
I feel like it is about time I said it anyway. My name if Josh. That is all I will say.
But don't call me that, I prefer my other names.
k American Bad a**
I'm Max.
Hi.
i am Muhammad.
WE SHOULD DO A VIDEO ABOUT THE MEN WHO BUILT LIBERTATEM
i am joking My name is Christopher but i might change it to Vladimir.
I really liked it at first, the first two stanzas are good. But then it got to "the region of care" and obscure references to socialism, and I was like "Whaaa?" I think the lyrical content needs improvement, but the general flow of it is splendid. "The land of fair/the region of care" sounds kinda lefty to me.
Y'all can still call me Pev, as it is a part of my (last) name. And it's what my cohorts call me.
Says the man who writes raps about people
i am scared now......
And show it on the History Channel, right? ;)
Y'all should read this article by The Libertarian Republic (home of "Awesome Petersen") called How Laissez-faire Made Sweden Rich. It's a damn long read, but also very interesting.
All in good taste, Lone Star ;)
Y'all knew Pev is a rapper, right?
I keep getting here late for conversations.
My real name is Zach. I've never liked how it sounds without the last name, which I won't disclose, so.. nope.
No one is asking last names, that is no-no territory.
No comment.
I really should get some rest now. Goodnight guys.
So, when is everyone's birthday?
Of course, but... huh. I don't even know.
Still, I don't like hearing only half of my name. It's just strange to me.
Also, I like the sound of Mien.
Also, super-duper amazing news article tomorrow. Hopefully. Some time this week for sure.
I'm waiting.
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