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Lain Iwakura wrote:So... "Obama for supreme court."

Anyone else as disgusted that there are actually people who think that that's a good idea as I am?

I won't happen anyways since he hasn't studied law at all, but what's the huge racket about? He's just a politician, nothing more.

The two party system sucks. What if you hate both choices. What if you don't like the democrats or the republicans. Why not have a three party system? Of three major political parties??? Each having equal influence.

San Andrias, Mentula Magna

Sorry I have been gone so long it's finals week. I am done with finals and I think I can be on my phone. I'm not entirely sure, but finals are done for today.

I have two finals tomorrow. Wish me luck...

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen wrote:The two party system sucks. What if you hate both choices. What if you don't like the democrats or the republicans. Why not have a three party system? Of three major political parties??? Each having equal influence.

Well, you can vote libertarian for example. But sadly the fact that most Americans will only vote for the two parties indicates that they don't want it any other way. That doesn't mean you can't do anything about that, though. Vote third-party, advertise you favourite candidate for mayor/governor/senator etc.

Don't be afraid that your vote will be lost if you vote third-party. Vote according to Kant's categorical imperative: "Act only according to that maxim whereby you can, at the same time, will that it should become a universal law."

Whle voting you should only be bound by your conscience, not by some tactical cnosiderations.

San Andrias, Rateria, Mentula Magna

Plusiocratic Federation Of Monetia wrote:I won't happen anyways since he hasn't studied law at all, but what's the huge racket about? He's just a politician, nothing more.

He graduated from Harvard Law and taught at the University of Chicago Law School, actually.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen wrote:I have two finals tomorrow. Wish me luck...

Studying beats luck my friend :)

Rateria

Ransomed Individuals wrote:He graduated from Harvard Law and taught at the University of Chicago Law School, actually.

Oh really, you're right, I checked it.

Huh. Didn't know that. TIL

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen wrote:The two party system sucks. What if you hate both choices. What if you don't like the democrats or the republicans. Why not have a three party system? Of three major political parties??? Each having equal influence.

Preach!

Rateria, Mentula Magna

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Technically we have a No Party system, but people are conditioned to the fallacy of limited choices very well (facilitated by a first past post election system). Teach everyone to vote their conscience with prejudice, and the two party chimera as is will fail. Parties will realign along more natural divisions such as statist vs libertarian. **corrected typo**

Miencraft

Senator Paul did well tonight.

San Andrias, Right-Winged Nation, Parvimperia, The New Republic Of The Galaxy

I hope everyone here in Libertatem is doing well, if you guys every want your more than welcome to come and talk on the Right to Life RMB.

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Ransomed Individuals wrote:Indubitably.

Without question.

The New United States

I'm drunk and high, hi.

Yay saturday nights.

Conversation starter?

Muh Roads wrote:Conversation starter?

I like pie.

Miencraft wrote:I like pie.

I too like pie.

Ankha wrote:I too like pie.

I don't like pie.

I will be voting for Gary Johnson in vain because we are going to have either Trump or Clinton or Sanders as the next president of the United States :(

Right-Winged Nation wrote:I will be voting for Gary Johnson in vain because we are going to have either Trump or Clinton or Sanders as the next president of the United States :(

Saying trump, clinton, and sanders in the same sentence is like saying communism, fascism and authoritarianism in the sentence as if they're different.

P.S. Hey you're alive!

San Andrias, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Mentula Magna

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Right-Winged Nation wrote:I will be voting for Gary Johnson in vain because we are going to have either Communism, Fascism or Authoritarianism as the next president of the United States :(

Gary Johnson, Johj Kasich or Rand Paul would all make good Presidents.

Plusiocratic Federation Of Monetia

Now I'm hungover, I need that pie mien.

Miencraft, San Andrias, Rateria

San Andrias wrote:Gary Johnson, Johj Kasich or Rand Paul would all make good Presidents.

I don't think Kasich would be good, although he was be known to balance budgets, he's very protectionist and agreed to expand medicaid and not repeal the ACA.

Parvimperia, The United States Of Patriots

The Aradites wrote:I don't think Kasich would be good, although he was be known to balance budgets, he's very protectionist and agreed to expand medicaid and not repeal the ACA.

The Debt is the number one issue. I'm against the ACA and Medicare, but at least he would be able to negotiate with the Democrats, kind of like how Cuomo in New York negotiates with the Republicans.

Miencraft

Right-Winged Nation wrote:I will be voting for Gary Johnson in vain because we are going to have either Trump or Clinton or Sanders as the next president of the United States :(

Kill me now.

Miencraft, The New United States, San Andrias, New Jaslandia, Right-Winged Nation, Rateria, Plusiocratic Federation Of Monetia

What does everyone think of Justin Amash?

Pevvania, The New United States

The Aradites wrote:I don't think Kasich would be good, although he was be known to balance budgets, he's very protectionist and agreed to expand medicaid and not repeal the ACA.

↑ This ↑

The United States Of Patriots wrote:↑ This ↑

It's not all about what the perfect candidate would be like, we need a candidate who can appeal to all Americans, not just one that can appeal to the Libertarians and Liberty Conservatives.

New Jaslandia, Rateria

Any Iowans here should stand with Rand

and please

Don't be a Bern victim

San Andrias, Teuberland

Paul comes in fifth and Huckabee suspends his campaign. A bittersweet day it is.

New Jaslandia, Teuberland, Parvimperia

Rand won One delegate. The real victory is that Donald trump did not win.

Miencraft, The New United States, San Andrias, Humpheria, Rateria, Plusiocratic Federation Of Monetia, Teuberland, Parvimperia

I'm pretty excited that Cruz and Trump received 52% of the vote between them. They represent at their core the truest spirit of America.

If Sanders wins, I honestly think I'm going to start looking into moving elsewhere on a more permanent basis.

Man, this election cycle bugs the hell out of me.

Miencraft, San Andrias, Kumquat Cove, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

So Cruz wins and Clinton wins by a coin toss. A little surprised, to be honest.

San Andrias, Muh Roads, Rateria, Parvimperia

Centinel wrote:I'm pretty excited that Cruz and Trump received 52% of the vote between them. They represent at their core the truest spirit of America.

Must not press suppress button... not resisting well.

Miencraft, San Andrias, New Jaslandia, Rateria, Plusiocratic Federation Of Monetia

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I guess you could say when Trump was in Iowa he was...

Cruzin' for a bruisin'

Pevvania, New Jaslandia, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Muh Roads wrote:Must not press suppress button... not resisting well.

You can't suppress my freedoms!

> Senator Cruz wins

> The Cult of Trump is confounded

God bless Iowa.

New Jaslandia

Centinel wrote:I'm pretty excited that Cruz and Trump received 52% of the vote between them. They represent at their core the truest spirit of America.

There is not a single Republican candidate further from the "spirit of America" than Donald.

New Jaslandia, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

The New United States wrote:There is not a single Republican candidate further from the "spirit of America" than Donald.

Sad that you have to qualify that with 'republican.'

The United States Of Patriots

Muh Roads wrote:Must not press suppress button... not resisting well.

*Also feeling strong urge to suppress due to Donald Trump being associated with the spirit of America*

Right-Winged Nation wrote:*Also feeling strong urge to suppress due to Donald Trump being associated with the spirit of America*

In a sad sense it's true. Americans have become so disgusted with Washington politics that extremists were bound to rise up in one way or another. The system had to break, and Trump and Sanders are what Americans sadly, but truly want to a large extent.

Rand Paul is out.

Well damn.

New Jaslandia, Right-Winged Nation, Muh Roads, Teuberland, Parvimperia

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Pevvania wrote:Rand Paul is out.

Well damn.

I think many Republicans (especially the younger ones) would instead vote Libertarian if only they knew the Libertarian Party well enough and if they didn't fear they votes will be "lost" due to the two-party system. Many young people want a free market economy and gun rights but not huge military spending, deficit spending and meddlings in private things between consenting adults.

I'm starting to doubt if Rand Paul actually did a good thing for his campaign by pandering to non-Libertarian conservatives and adopting more authoritarian social views non-Libertarian conservatives like. He has disappointed a lot of his older followers by trying to attract new ones.

Teuberland

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So who do we vote for now? Johnson?

Parvimperia

Pevvania wrote:Rand Paul is out.

Well damn.

:(

San Andrias wrote:So who do we vote for now? Johnson?

Vermin supreme

San Andrias, New Jaslandia

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The Aradites wrote:Any Iowans here should stand with Rand

and please

Don't be a Bern victim

That's very cleaver

Plusiocratic Federation Of Monetia wrote:I think many Republicans (especially the younger ones) would instead vote Libertarian if only they knew the Libertarian Party well enough and if they didn't fear they votes will be "lost" due to the two-party system. Many young people want a free market economy and gun rights but not huge military spending, deficit spending and meddlings in private things between consenting adults.

I'm starting to doubt if Rand Paul actually did a good thing for his campaign by pandering to non-Libertarian conservatives and adopting more authoritarian social views non-Libertarian conservatives like. He has disappointed a lot of his older followers by trying to attract new ones.

He was still better than nothing. Diluted libertarianism seems bad, but it's the first step to making full-fledged libertarianism visible in the public sphere.

San Andrias

Did you know that in America it will cost $2.2 trillion now to fix our infrastructure like power plants, bridges, dams ,highways etc...??? Yet we still don't fix it, even though it will create jobs and economic activity. Is that just me or is that stupid ???

San Andrias, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Unfortunately Americans won't vote for a third party because they can't win

But they don't win because people don't vote for them. Doesn't it just seem like a loop??? California exists, because it exists. Because it exists that's how I know it exists. Self serving feed loop.

San Andrias

Right-Winged Nation wrote:*Also feeling strong urge to suppress due to Donald Trump being associated with the spirit of America*

Unfortunately trump might be elected. Also unfortunately Hilliary might be elected. So I don't see any real choice. Unfortunately he might represent the Republican Party.

The Libertarian Party of Australia has rebooted up. However this is a bad idea, a split Libertarian base is an ineffective one, and we can't trust either the party or voters to preference either/or efficiently. (Australia is IRV). Unless they focus only in the areas that the Libdems can't reach (such as Queensland), I don't think this is a good idea.

http://libertarian.net.au/

Pevvania wrote:Rand Paul is out.

Well damn.

This is going to be a bad year for libertarians. I think our popularity topped in 2012, with all honesty.

Also congratulations to the Free State Project, which had recently gained it's 20,000 member signature.

Teuberland, Parvimperia

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen wrote:Did you know that in America it will cost $2.2 trillion now to fix our infrastructure like power plants, bridges, dams ,highways etc...??? Yet we still don't fix it, even though it will create jobs and economic activity. Is that just me or is that stupid ???

Do you mean have the government pay for it to be fixed using money that would've been spent somewhere else, or let private companies fix it?

San Andrias

Parvimperia wrote:Do you mean have the government pay for it to be fixed using money that would've been spent somewhere else, or let private companies fix it?

The government fixing it. Because people expect that the federal government will make sure the pot holes are not on interstates. The government would have to pay for it, as people die when 50-70 year old infrastructure fails. So the federal government will have to fix it using money that would have been spent elsewhere.

Hi guys. Are you excited for the weekend??? It's coming the day when you mostly sit at home and watch TV or YouTube or Netflix.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen wrote:Hi guys. Are you excited for the weekend??? It's coming the day when you mostly sit at home and watch TV or YouTube or Netflix.

Super Bowl Sunday!!!

San Andrias

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen wrote:The government fixing it. Because people expect that the federal government will make sure the pot holes are not on interstates. The government would have to pay for it, as people die when 50-70 year old infrastructure fails. So the federal government will have to fix it using money that would have been spent elsewhere.

If we defund the military budget by 43%, we can devote a few billion extra to infrastructure improvement. Just start a federal works agency again to make more infrastructure for the economy, while driving the unemployment rate down.

New Jaslandia

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen wrote:Hi guys. Are you excited for the weekend??? It's coming the day when you mostly sit at home and watch TV or YouTube or Netflix.

Not really looking forward to Saturday. I've got two papers due Monday, another due Tuesday, and another due Friday.

New Jaslandia

The New United States wrote:Not really looking forward to Saturday. I've got two papers due Monday, another due Tuesday, and another due Friday.

You could just devote your life to the Holy Church of Roads and spread the pavement evenly.

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

San Andrias wrote:If we defund the military budget by 43%, we can devote a few billion extra to infrastructure improvement. Just start a federal works agency again to make more infrastructure for the economy, while driving the unemployment rate down.

Would you agree with that policy ???

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen wrote:Would you agree with that policy ???

Not at the moment, but as we fix the debt problem I think it would be ideal.

San Andrias wrote:If we defund the military budget by 43%, we can devote a few billion extra to infrastructure improvement. Just start a federal works agency again to make more infrastructure for the economy, while driving the unemployment rate down.

So, a second New Deal? I would approve of that.

The New United States wrote:Not really looking forward to Saturday. I've got two papers due Monday, another due Tuesday, and another due Friday.

#StoryOfMyLife

San Andrias

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San Andrias wrote:If we defund the military budget by 43%, we can devote a few billion extra to infrastructure improvement. Just start a federal works agency again to make more infrastructure for the economy, while driving the unemployment rate down.

How simplistic. Government spending does not reduce unemployment. In fact, it increases it in the long run by diverting resources from the more efficient private sector to the less efficient public sector, which is not guided by price signals. Every dollar spent on infrastructure or public works programs is a dollar taken away from a private steel factory, or a bakery, or an accounting firm, or whatever.

Cut military spending back to 1998 levels, abolish most federal programs, transfer others to the states and privatise the rest.

Miencraft, Parvimperia

Pevvania wrote:How simplistic. Government spending does not reduce unemployment.

Obviously not, but like I mentioned a public works agency does.

Pevvania wrote:In fact, it increases it in the long run by diverting resources from the more efficient private sector to the less efficient public sector, which is not guided by price signals.

I can't see the private sector improving bridges and highways. Transportation infrastructure is the government's job.

Pevvania wrote:Every dollar spent on infrastructure or public works programs is a dollar taken away from a private steel factory, or a bakery, or an accounting firm, or whatever.

Not if you replace the corporate tax with the FairTax.

Pevvania wrote:Cut military spending back to 1998 levels, abolish most federal programs, transfer others to the states and privatise the rest.

Agreed

http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2016/02/ron-paul-liberty-minded-republicans-should-forget-about-gop-primaries-support-the-libertarian-party-instead/

You heard it from Ron Paul's mouth himself, unless you the type that says "oh well Bernie Sanders is bad, but Donald Trump is worse, therefore we should vote Donald Trump!"

San Andrias

San Andrias wrote:Obviously not, but like I mentioned a public works agency does.

I can't see the private sector improving bridges and highways. Transportation infrastructure is the government's job.

Not if you replace the corporate tax with the FairTax.

Agreed

Oh, god.

Im driving here i sit, cursing my government for not filling holes with more cement!

New Jaslandia, United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

I'm sorry but 'Vermin Supreme' is not even remotely funny.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2016/02/ron-paul-liberty-minded-republicans-should-forget-about-gop-primaries-support-the-libertarian-party-instead/

You heard it from Ron Paul's mouth himself, unless you the type that says "oh well Bernie Sanders is bad, but Donald Trump is worse, therefore we should vote Donald Trump!"

Meh. Electing Ted Cruz would be a step in the right direction, to varying degrees, on pretty much every issue.

And so I'm happy to support him.

Pevvania wrote:I'm sorry but 'Vermin Supreme' is not even remotely funny.

Your not remotely funny =p

Minarchyball is love, minarchyball is life

Ransomed Individuals wrote:Meh. Electing Ted Cruz would be a step in the right direction, to varying degrees, on pretty much every issue.

And so I'm happy to support him.

But I thought we killed all the non-white straight males long ago.

San Andrias wrote:But I thought we killed all the non-white straight males long ago.

Intelligent.

Ransomed Individuals wrote:Intelligent.

Not surprising, however, from an individual that evidently supports imbecilic New Deal-esque economic programs.

Ransomed Individuals wrote:Not surprising, however, from an individual that evidently supports imbecilic New Deal-esque economic programs.

Rather than call me stupid, what do you suggest?

San Andrias wrote:Rather than call me stupid, what do you suggest?

Rather than offhandedly call Sen. Ted Cruz a racist homophobe, which is laughable, "what do you suggest?"

Cruz is great on most issues - subsidies, trade, the Federal Reserve, federalism, etc - and where he isn't great, he's a whole lot better than most. To just disregard him as an ebil social conservative is ridiculous, I think.

Ted Cruz would be a step in the right direction on most issues but,

Ted Cruz is a racist that wants non-whites dead.

Texasa wrote:Ted Cruz would be a step in the right direction on most issues but,

Ted Cruz is a racist that wants non-whites dead.

I like corporatism but,

I'm a leftist troll who is desperate for attention.

Miencraft, San Andrias, Rateria, Maurician Republics

Ransomed Individuals wrote:Rather than offhandedly call Sen. Ted Cruz a racist homophobe, which is laughable, "what do you suggest?"

Cruz is great on most issues - subsidies, trade, the Federal Reserve, federalism, etc - and where he isn't great, he's a whole lot better than most. To just disregard him as an ebil social conservative is ridiculous, I think.

Jeez I was just making a joke. If it was him vs. Bernie or Hillary I would definitely vote for him. The reason I wouldn't vote for him in a primary is because he is too much of a Neocon, and probably wouldn't win in the general election unless Hillary gets indicted. To be honest, i'm hoping Rubio wins the Republican nomination. As much as I hate him, he has a much better chance of winning the election.

San Andrias wrote:Jeez I was just making a joke. If it was him vs. Bernie or Hillary I would definitely vote for him. The reason I wouldn't vote for him in a primary is because he is too much of a Neocon, and probably wouldn't win in the general election unless Hillary gets indicted. To be honest, i'm hoping Rubio wins the Republican nomination. As much as I hate him, he has a much better chance of winning the election.

Ah. Apologies!

It's hard to tell sometimes.

San Andrias, Rateria

Trump and Sanders in New Hampshire.

Now excuse me, I'm gonna puke.

Rateria, Lain Iwakura, Parvimperia, The United States Of Patriots

Plusiocratic Federation Of Monetia wrote:Trump and Sanders in New Hampshire.

Now excuse me, I'm gonna puke.

Tell me about it.

It's like some kind of dystopian movie only it's real. I'm downright embarrassed to be an American right now.

Also, I'm apparently not allowed to use profanity around here. Go figure.

Rateria

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