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Probably a raid gone bad or something that he was really into but nobody else cared about. That's the only thing that I can think of him getting angry for. I did think that it was funny that he was ordering us around in the military like he was in charge. He has no command for another week. But, I feel bad that he forgot that and didn't get a response.

Humpheria wrote:Probably a raid gone bad or something that he was really into but nobody else cared about. That's the only thing that I can think of him getting angry for. I did think that it was funny that he was ordering us around in the military like he was in charge. He has no command for another week. But, I feel bad that he forgot that and didn't get a response.

Oi! Good luck on taking back your former stronghold in AAA.

Bleeker Ridge wrote:Oi! Good luck on taking back your former stronghold in AAA.

Not what I was talking about, but ok.

Humpheria wrote:Not what I was talking about, but ok.

Well, it's kinda related.

Does anyone else here not really feel all that bad at AAA being occupied. I was not really fond of them in the first place.

But as long as the Commies have their moment in the sun thinking that they've struck deep into the heart of Libertatem, more power to them.

Bleeker Ridge wrote:Well, it's kinda related.

I suppose you could correlate, but that was more of a shot at him then you guys. I've had too long of a day and it is too late to get into with you guys.

Humpheria wrote:Does anyone else here not really feel all that bad at AAA being occupied. I was not really fond of them in the first place.

But as long as the Commies have their moment in the sun thinking that they've struck deep into the heart of Libertatem, more power to them.

It wasn't anything. Just anarchists.

Bleeker Ridge wrote:Oi! Good luck on taking back your former stronghold in AAA.

You're kidding, right? You've been in the region for a day and can't even tell, can you?

The residents don't answer to us. They're a melting pot of former regions with one thing in common - your friends in Das Kommune pissed them off. The only reason we're so chummy with one another is because we have a common foe (that being you). Their proclamations of liberty are their own - until recently, I haven't even found much use for my puppet there. They have their own founder, one who evidently unlocked the Delegacy only a few days ago. I'm sure they can take care of themselves, and in the meantime, it's keeping your WA forces away from other regions, which suits us just fine.

In fact, I'm not even sure what you're doing there. They only chose to be a REATO observer, and the majority of them opposed full membership for political reasons. None of them were present in the Das Kommune tag raid, and the only reason they sent anyone to CAPS was because we convinced them that was their opportunity to get even - and they sent a whopping, what, three people? But hey, if you want to hype up an irrelevant target and insult their populace for "crimes" they didn't even commit so that you can finally feel important, that's your call. Have fun with that.

Good night Libertatem.

Goodnight Communist oppressive blahblah blahanblahkalhlbjakjbslakdjfh;kjhfaoubaef[ou[ofuhf[dsuhfd[uhsdaf[u. Whatever, I'm going to bed.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:You guys are useless...

Anyway, what are you on about?

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Anyway, what are you on about?

What do you think?

This whole war on tyranny is becoming quite old when barely any of it's members are enthusiastic or competent enough to respond. Perhap I'm just jaded, but we should rethink everything and focus on only a defensive stance? It's been the same for months.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:What do you think?

This whole war on tyranny is becoming quite old when barely any of it's members are enthusiastic or competent enough to respond. Perhap I'm just jaded, but we should rethink everything and focus on only a defensive stance? It's been the same for months.

Dude, it's not even New Years yet. You're expecting military action at what may very well be the slowest time of the year - just be patient.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:What do you think?

This whole war on tyranny is becoming quite old when barely any of it's members are enthusiastic or competent enough to respond. Perhap I'm just jaded, but we should rethink everything and focus on only a defensive stance? It's been the same for months.

Gonna go with Minerva on this one

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Dude, it's not even New Years yet. You're expecting military action at what may very well be the slowest time of the year - just be patient.

Maybe, but then why is it always the same slow response year along hmm?

Gah, frustrated, telegram me.

Humpheria wrote:Does anyone else here not really feel all that bad at AAA being occupied. I was not really fond of them in the first place.

But as long as the Commies have their moment in the sun thinking that they've struck deep into the heart of Libertatem, more power to them.

You hurt my feelings! :(

Eh, it's alright, we kind of are an odd mix of folks.

Kincoboh wrote:You hurt my feelings! :(

Eh, it's alright, we kind of are an odd mix of folks.

He might not like you guys, but I do. Of course, I am annoyed that we left such an egregious gap in security, but it's nothing that can't be solved upon Tsar's or NST's return.

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Humpheria wrote:Does anyone else here not really feel all that bad at AAA being occupied. I was not really fond of them in the first place.

But as long as the Commies have their moment in the sun thinking that they've struck deep into the heart of Libertatem, more power to them.

Shermaniya wrote:It wasn't anything. Just anarchists.

How heartless. You bastards are in an alliance with them. Show some god damn respect.

The Neo-Confederate States Of America wrote:What exactly happened to FFS since I was gone? I left that region a long time ago, (back when I was at the time a nation called Blahbania).

You were Blahbania? Interesting. I bet you can never guess who I was.

Jimblesland wrote:How heartless. You bastards are in an alliance with them. Show some god damn respect.

Please don't take the words of a few individuals as the official policy of the region. We regard the AAA as a very strong ally of ours and will do whatever it takes to keep it safe in the future.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Dude, it's not even New Years yet. You're expecting military action at what may very well be the slowest time of the year - just be patient.

I think you're right that things are quite slow right now - I mean, I just got back from Amsterdam. But it still pisses me off that much of the time it's a hassle to get anyone to join an op in a military region. The severe lack of professionalism is something that really bugs me about our region.

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Our population is going way down now that Roads isn't around.

I hope he's not dead or anything.

At least the AAA let everyone know they fought all forms of tyranny and then put it into practice.

Pevvania wrote:We regard the AAA as a very strong ally of ours

Then why don't you help them?

The Libertarian Paradise Of Somalia wrote:Then why don't you help them?

Pevvania wrote:Look - this is not Civilization V. We can't just magically send an army to liberate the AAA. The Delegate always has an advantage. The one in AAA is active around both update times, meaning that an invasion force - even one two or three times the size of his - would likely be vanquished with ease. There's nothing we can do about that. We've had a great many successes recently and we're doing what we can to sort things out, but we can't wave a wand and side-step the game mechanics. Our best bet is to just wait for Tsardom or NST to return.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:What do you think?

This whole war on tyranny is becoming quite old when barely any of it's members are enthusiastic or competent enough to respond. Perhap I'm just jaded, but we should rethink everything and focus on only a defensive stance? It's been the same for months.

I personally would be more prone to pick up that rugged old cross, had Pev told me to do it. It also doesn't help when I get 30 telegrams a week telling me to go here and go there and endorse this person and do this thing from someone who doesn't even have the authority to do so.

Jimblesland wrote:How heartless. You bastards are in an alliance with them. Show some god damn respect.

I enjoy the right to voice my PERSONAL opinion about anyone that I please. I did show respect? Did I insult anyone? Did I call anyone a name? I simply said that I didn't like them, which I will continue to do, and you won't stop me.

The Board Elections begin, #RLPISREADYTOSTRIKE

Is the government back online? Who can I send my citizenship application to?

Coumba wrote:Is the government back online? Who can I send my citizenship application to?

Yes.

I don't know.

Coumba wrote:Is the government back online? Who can I send my citizenship application to?

I'll take it.

The Libertarian Paradise Of Somalia wrote:Then why don't you help them?

And I see that you could not reply to my response. But that's okay - statism isn't very easy to defend anyway.

Pevvania wrote:And I see that you could not reply to my response. But that's okay - statism isn't very easy to defend anyway.

Or I have a life? I don't have time to sit and reply to butthurt Libertarians all day.

Pevvania wrote:And I see that you could not reply to my response. But that's okay - statism isn't very easy to defend anyway.

Like I said, Corporate Dictatorship vs Statist Dictatorship.

ATTENTION!!

Spies are attempting to impersonate nations here by sending them fraudulent telegrams. Yesterday, I was asked for intel by "Conservative idaelism" (Not [nation=Conservative Idealism]). Please double check whenever you receive a telegram from someone to make sure it is really from the nation you think it's from. Remain alert, be aware of your surroundings, watch for commie spies.

Decided to settle here since my vacation in AAA is over.

Humpheria wrote:Does anyone else here not really feel all that bad at AAA being occupied. I was not really fond of them in the first place.

But as long as the Commies have their moment in the sun thinking that they've struck deep into the heart of Libertatem, more power to them.

Outstanding. You're too kind. Remove us as observers of the REATO treaty, please.

The United Slavic Tsardom wrote:Outstanding. You're too kind. Remove us as observers of the REATO treaty, please.

Humpheria is just the Attorney-General; he has no authority over foreign policy. I think we know our respect for your region and how much we value our partnership. Your region should not give in to the forces of Stalinism now! This is just what they want.

Bleeker Ridge wrote:Decided to settle here since my vacation in AAA is over.

Note, there is a difference between vacation and attacking during the holidays, knowing the founders would be busy.

Pevvania wrote:Humpheria is just the Attorney-General; he has no authority over foreign policy. I think we know our respect for your region and how much we value our partnership. Your region should not give in to the forces of Stalinism now! This is just what they want.

We're not giving into Stalinism, rather, we're essentially shutting down the A3 military apparatus.

The United Slavic Tsardom wrote:We're not giving into Stalinism, rather, we're essentially shutting down the A3 military apparatus.

*Statism? Or did you mean Stalinism?

Jimblesland wrote:How heartless. You bastards are in an alliance with them. Show some god damn respect.

Props to this guy.

Shermaniya wrote:*Statism? Or did you mean Stalinism?

Pev said Stalinism...

The Libertarian Paradise Of Somalia wrote:Or I have a life? I don't have time to sit and reply to butthurt Libertarians all day.

Top lel at the U-turn.

The Libertarian Paradise Of Somalia wrote:I can wait.

But don't fret. Masking an inability to counter superior arguments with a few as hominems and the classic "I have a life" defense is cool with me. And you think Somalia is libertarian? I suppose that Nazi Germany was pure communism, then?

Shermaniya wrote:Like I said, Corporate Dictatorship vs Statist Dictatorship.

Often the two are almost indistinguishable. As long as there is a state there will be special interests that seek to influence it. Without a state - or perhaps with a weak state - firms are totally accountable to the marketplace. If they try to pull any tricks or act coercively, it would collapse, because a company in a free market cannot survive without customers.

Pevvania wrote:Often the two are almost indistinguishable. As long as there is a state there will be special interests that seek to influence it. Without a state - or perhaps with a weak state - firms are totally accountable to the marketplace. If they try to pull any tricks or act coercively, it would collapse, because a company in a free market cannot survive without customers.

Only if the customers have a choice. Think about it, if everyone drove Nissan's and all of the other car companies moved to small-scale production, motorists would be forced to drive Nissan's because the other car companies wouldn't be able to have a fighting chance. Same with almost every sector of the economy. Where I live, the only cable provider is Time Warner Cable. They have established a monopoly and dominance over the market in my area, therefore it is either TWC or no cable.

Bleeker Ridge wrote:Decided to settle here since my vacation in AAA is over.

Meh. I guess I could debate you until you're banjected. But right now, I'm watching Commando. Damn, that's a good movie.

The State Of Deseret wrote:At least the AAA let everyone know they fought all forms of tyranny and then put it into practice.

Thanks.

Shermaniya wrote:It wasn't anything. Just anarchists.

Yeah, just people who believe in freedom.

The United Slavic Tsardom wrote:Yeah, just people who believe in freedom.

All i'm saying is that your region was mostly anarchists. No need to get angry.

Bleeker Ridge wrote:Decided to settle here since my vacation in AAA is over.

*readies banjection catapult*

Shermaniya wrote:All i'm saying is that your region was mostly anarchists. No need to get angry.

Getting angry is the least of my worries when we have allies who, even though they can't really help us out, still say sh1t like this...

Humpheria wrote:Does anyone else here not really feel all that bad at AAA being occupied. I was not really fond of them in the first place.

The United Slavic Tsardom wrote:Getting angry is the least of my worries when we have allies who, even though they can't really help us out, still say sh1t like this...

I speak for myself, not Libertatem. Talk to our State Department if you are worried.

As the future Manager of State (assuming my election bid for the Board does not succeed), the Anti-Authoritarian Alliance is an important strategic partner in securing the world from totalitarianism. I can personally attest to our government's commitment to our mutual defense and several members of Libertatem came to help liberate AAA. Due to the holiday, we simply couldn't muster the troops. (Apparently, marxists would rather play with themselves on an online game than spend holidays with their friends, if they've got any.)

In the future weeks and months, I'm sure our regions can cooperate on our mutual defense and bring justice to our cowardly and pathetic enemies.

Well said. Well said.

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Pevvania wrote:I think you're right that things are quite slow right now - I mean, I just got back from Amsterdam. But it still pisses me off that much of the time it's a hassle to get anyone to join an op in a military region. The severe lack of professionalism is something that really bugs me about our region.

A policy I intend to fix, however possible.

Shermaniya wrote:ATTENTION!!

Spies are attempting to impersonate nations here by sending them fraudulent telegrams. Yesterday, I was asked for intel by "Conservative idaelism" (Not [nation=Conservative Idealism]). Please double check whenever you receive a telegram from someone to make sure it is really from the nation you think it's from. Remain alert, be aware of your surroundings, watch for commie spies.

I was wondering what was up with that impersonator. Honestly, I don't know why our enemies (or possibly frenemies) are so intent on winning that they'd cast aside the game rules to get what they want.

Did anyone tell that guy anything before he CTE'd?

The United Slavic Tsardom wrote:Outstanding. You're too kind. Remove us as observers of the REATO treaty, please.

I understand. If no one else has already, I'll see to it.

Kanatistan wrote:... When will my trial be?

That is up to our Attorney General.

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The United Slavic Tsardom wrote:Thanks.

No problem. I appreciate equal fighting against the fascists and state socialists.

Why is Kanatistan on trial?

The State Of Deseret wrote:No problem. I appreciate equal fighting against the fascists and state socialists.

Why is Kanatistan on trial?

He tried guessing my password and tried to illegally enter my account, as well as another Libertatem resident's account.

Kanatistan wrote:...

What?

Might I suggest a referendum to change the flag to something more...Libertarian?

[quote=shermaniya;9194093]Might I suggest a referendum to change the flag to something more...Libertrian/quote]

Give up. The fascists in control of the government will not allow it.

(JOKING)

In all reality the majority likes the current flag...either that or the last Referendum was sort of unfair. Putting 3 New flags and the old flag giving a voting ratio of 3 choices for one side and 1 choice for the other. A better referendum would be a "Yes or No."

[quote=shermaniya;9193947]He tried guessing my password and tried to illegally enter my account, as well as another Libertatem resident's account.

What?[/quote]

Do you have PROOF it was him? If so, what?

The State Of Deseret wrote:Do you have PROOF it was him? If so, what?

Nationstates moderators. I will look for the post in a sec.

Nationstates Moderators wrote:@Belmaria- It was reported, by at least two different players.

Kanatistan has been informed in no uncertain terms that they need to stop that immediately under threat of deletion and possibly delete-on-sight.

Here [nation=The State of Deseret]

Shermaniya wrote:Nationstates moderators. I will look for the post in a sec.

Last I checked they didn't say who tried doing it...but I mean...whatever. If he did it, then he did it.

So the question is. Hoe can we put him on trial....if the region has no law on it?

The State Of Deseret wrote:Last I checked they didn't say who tried doing it...but I mean...whatever. If he did it, then he did it.

So the question is. Hoe can we put him on trial....if the region has no law on it?

He disrupted the sovereignty of multiple citizens of Libertatem, as well as breaking the NS Rules and Code of Conduct. I'm no bureaucrat, but i'm sure there is something in Libertatem's code of law that can relate to this.

The State Of Deseret wrote:Last I checked they didn't say who tried doing it...but I mean...whatever. If he did it, then he did it.

So the question is. Hoe can we put him on trial....if the region has no law on it?

TTA, just what?

You know that we have quite a few laws on trials. The mods said he did it. And we have proof that he came here with the intent of sabotage and espionage. Every time you try to defend an accused person, they end up doing really bad things.

Meh. I have seen no personal evidence. And the regions laws don't cover it... (to the extent I know of).

What proof do you have of him intending to do it?

And the reason I do? Because people described as bad by a group of people are described bad because thwy don't agree with the other person.

Humpheria wrote:TTA, just what?

You know that we have quite a few laws on trials. The mods said he did it. And we have proof that he came here with the intent of sabotage and espionage. Every time you try to defend an accused person, they end up doing really bad things.

He's not wrong.....

Ankha wrote:He's not wrong.....

I am...because the people I'm against don't agree. Thus I'm in the wrong. They have the power, thus if they think I'm wrong, they can affect me like I'm wrong.

The State Of Deseret wrote:Meh. I have seen no personal evidence. And the regions laws don't cover it... (to the extent I know of).

What proof do you have of him intending to do it?

And the reason I do? Because people described as bad by a group of people are described bad because thwy don't agree with the other person.

The mods literally said that he did it, and the prosecution has evidence of higher military crimes.

We have laws defining a court of law, you've been in one before.

He admitted to it..... the mods said he did it....... and he is the only suspect.....

Yet they all have been guilty of said offenses despite ideology.

The State Of Deseret wrote:I am...because the people I'm against don't agree. Thus I'm in the wrong. They have the power, thus if they think I'm wrong, they can affect me like I'm wrong.

That's the most logical think i've read all day.

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The State Of Deseret wrote:I am...because the people I'm against don't agree. Thus I'm in the wrong. They have the power, thus if they think I'm wrong, they can affect me like I'm wrong.

I don't know who you think is in power, but I sure ain't.

The State Of Deseret wrote:I broke no regional laws, I was ban me because yoi disliked me.Not sure if true or not...I re-read it and my head started hurting...

And why do you think that is?

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The State Of Deseret wrote:It confused me...affect...I think effect should be there.

No, I meant why you think "we" dislike you.

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The State Of Deseret wrote:I am...because the people I'm against don't agree. Thus I'm in the wrong. They have the power, thus if they think I'm wrong, they can affect me like I'm wrong.

I was saying humps not wrong. (And you are..)

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The State Of Deseret wrote:The reason doesn't matter. All I know there is no law banning due to dislike.

I think it does matter, considering this kind of thing keeps happening. The massive controversy over trials with cut-and-dried evidence, I mean.

What's going on? The RMB just sort of exploded and I'm confused. Could somebody fill me in?

Yeah you are going to play battlefield 3 with me.

http://www.nationstates.net/region=antista#pollid_18902

Shermaniya wrote:Might I suggest a referendum to change the flag to something more...Libertarian?

Eleutheria

My region's flag is a proposed example.

http://i61.tinypic.com/2870ids.png

Republic Of Minerva wrote:http://i61.tinypic.com/2870ids.png

Much better

I kept the background to "Libertatem Blue" (a color I made up).

Mostly for traditionalistic purposes. :D

Can somebody clear this up for me: isn't Kanatistan TTA/Deseret?

One of the more pretentious political self-descriptions is "Libertarian." People think it puts them above the fray. It sounds fashionable, and to the uninitiated, faintly dangerous. Actually, it's just one more bullshit political philosophy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QDv4sYwjO0

Pevvania wrote:Can somebody clear this up for me: isn't Kanatistan TTA/Deseret?

No. TTA has a similar-sounding puppet that was located here for a bit.

Kanatistan is Einsev and should be summarily banned due to his previous guilty verdict.

Funkytopia wrote:No. TTA has a similar-sounding puppet that was located here for a bit.

Kanatistan is Einsev and should be summarily banned due to his previous guilty verdict.

I thought Einsiev was Alak?

Pevvania wrote:I thought Einsiev was Alak?

I wouldn't be surprised if he has multiple puppets here... I don't know about Alak, but it was made clear that Kanatistan is a puppet and the current government should enforce Ein's sentence and eject him.

Funkytopia wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if he has multiple puppets here... I don't know about Alak, but it was made clear that Kanatistan is a puppet and the current government should enforce Ein's sentence and eject him.

I'll log onto Lib's account and banject Alak, whom was a resident of IDS and has been confirmed as Einsiev's puppet.

How do we know that Kanatistan is Einsiev?

Kanat and Einsiev each have WAs...

Pevvania wrote:I'll log onto Lib's account and banject Alak, whom was a resident of IDS and has been confirmed as Einsiev's puppet.

How do we know that Kanatistan is Einsiev?

They are different

The Libertarian Paradise Of Somalia wrote:One of the more pretentious political self-descriptions is "Libertarian." People think it puts them above the fray. It sounds fashionable, and to the uninitiated, faintly dangerous. Actually, it's just one more bullshit political philosophy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QDv4sYwjO0

Your arguments are getting more and more pathetic by the day. But I'm being very liberal with the word argument. Calling it "bullshit" is not an argument against libertarianism. And neither is "MUH SOMALIA!!!" Somalia is not libertarian at all. For a long time it has been what perhaps can possibly be described as anarcho-fascism - an anarchic nation of ultra-religious tribes and violent terrorist groups struggling for control. Concepts such as freedom, self-ownership and private property are alien to many Somalians.

However, embarrassingly enough for your argument, a study found that between 1990 and 2005, out of 18 indicators of human development, Somalia had improved in 14 of them, gotten worse in two of them, and had not changed in one. Lack of reliable data means that progress on the 18th indicator (GDP per capita) cannot be known. But nevertheless, anarchy has allowed for vast improvements in the quality of life for the average Somalian, in everything from life expectancy to infant mortality to extreme poverty to its telecommunications network, which is one of the finest in Africa. Somalia is not proof of the success of libertarianism, but rather proof of the failure of socialism.

http://www.peterleeson.com/better_off_stateless.pdf

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