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I've begun to read Atlas Shrugged. Has somebody already read it ?
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Ya
Ya
Is it worth it ?
Worth it? That's the question...Final: Watch the movies save yourself a month
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Yuck... The movies are drek.
The book is one of my favorites, especially since all of the main characters look at the world from an engineer's point of view. Rand really captures the emotions of working on a project or inventing something, with all the ups and downs that comes with the job. By the time you finish reading it, you should understand that work isn't simply the price of living another day on Earth, but our main reason for living. So, yeah I think it's worth it!
The hardest part to get through are the last 50 pages or so, during the famous speech... I recommend skimming through that part the first time you read the book.
What are your thoughts on Tony Abbott?
I think he's done some good things, such as cutting the deficit a teency bit, but overall he's just another gutless conservative who's perfectly okay with banning gay marriage and nationalising childcare to pander to the feminist vote, but is too cowardly to do anything about our atrocious gun laws or balance the budget.
#DavidLeyonhjelm2017
Ashamedly, it's very difficult for me to read. I've got through about 200 pages. There's a huge amount of build-up, and it apparently was never edited.
^this. The movies are terrible. I thoroughly enjoyed Atlas Shrugged[/I], but I liked [I]The Fountainhead[/I] much more.
Just watched American Sniper. What an incredible film. I don't see it as either a pro- or anti-war film, but rather a neutral and sobering look at war, and more importantly the life of Chris Kyle and those of thousands of vets like him.
Alderney And Liberty City
The vet who killed him pleaded insanity this morning in trial
I don't like him much but my sympathy for the man has risen after all the public pressure on him. I believe we need to balance the budget but he has made many heartless cuts which have enraged the national electorate.
Heartless? I don't think any cut can ever truly be heartless, since it's giving back stolen money. But there are certainly unfair cuts, like targeting welfare for the poor and not welfare for corporations.
I don't think that's what's enraged them; I think they're enraged because he lied and said he wouldn't cut things that he ended up cutting anyway.
https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=330783
Ladies and gentlemen, introducing to you another heartless, cold decision by our PM.
G'day. mates.
I approve.
Gradea
This has me a wee bit upset ---> https://www.nraila.org/articles/20150213/batfe-to-ban-common-ar-15-ammo
Speaking as someone who hasn't read it, no. When all critics of the book have to do is point out that the main character rambles on about the evils of collectivism for forty pages, that's enough to tell me it might be a waste of time.
What?!?
That is outrageous. What are they going to do next, ban the most common ammunition types for larger handguns? Dear Lord...
Sarcasm? This will greatly increase the safety of innocent people.
You can ban cars too, this way you'll increase innocent walkers' safety.
Gradea, Austex
No, it won't.
When that ammunition fails to become legally available, the black market can and will adapt. Law-abiding citizens will essentially lose the ability to use an AR-15 for sport (which is damn fun, from what I've heard), while it will be slightly easier for criminals to obtain them. As you can probably tell by now, that is a very bad thing.
Austex
Just as prohibiting drugs has eliminated them from society. Think I'll be going on an ammo search tomorrow, better stock up.
[nation=short]yrellian confederacy[/nation]: Yeah, that speech is pretty brutal. Ayn Rand's style is essentially this: Imagine her main point being a nail, she will then hammer it over and over again to make damn sure you got it. Aside from that, it's a good book. If you want to get the same idea in a much shorter read, pick up Anthem. It's only 90 pages or so.
Ayn Rand should of been Abe Lincoln's speech writer.
It would of been perfect!
Gradea
I try to be politically neutral. -What am I kidding?-
Can I do some recruiting for Libertatem and set up an official news thread in Gameplay?
He should honestly just privatise it if the government can't afford it.
You could go do recruitment, but what exactly do you mean by an official news thread?
Anyways, if you want to go recruit, I've got a generic telegram for that stashed somewhere, and if your news thread means what I think it does, we do have a newspaper that people with NS++ can contribute to. It's a bit dead at the moment because nobody bloody remembers it exists, but it's there.
Where can we find the official newspaper by the way ?
If you have NS++, you can find it on the left-hand side where it says 'regional news'. But I suppose a nation should be set up for those who don't have NS++.
Good day to you all, ladies and gentlemen.
I've been looking through old messages, and I found this:
Lol
Better Call ACOP!
PRESIDENT TO CLOSE 15 EMBASSIES
cites "negligible foreign affairs benefits"
President Condealism, before taking a leave of absence, authorised the closure of 15 embassies - 30% of Libertatem's 50 embassies.
A source claimed that the President cited the "negligible foreign affairs benefits" that many of the regions gave to the Republic of Libertatem, and expressed that the region has not "trimmed our embassies in a while".
These are the first closures authorised by President Condealism. Five embassies have been closed during his tenure, one of which was done through a region ceasing to exist, and four others which were authorised by President Miencraft, who closed a total of 36 embassies during his tenure. President Humph oversaw 10 closures, Pevvania 112, Snabagag 48, Lone Star 1, and Tundrania 5.
Notable closures include The Commonwealth States, a former REATO member that was rescued in a successful Libertatem-led operation after they were left founderless, and the UCR, a region with which Libertatem has held a tumultuous and at some times adversarial relationship with.
Since its merger with Communist Republic, the embassy of which is also being closed, into the Anti Authoritarian Alliance, the embassy with UCR was deemed unnecessary by the administration. A State Department official who spoke on condition of anonymity told the Gazette: "UCR and Libertatem have enjoyed a strong and prosperous relationship, but since its operations have moved to the AAA, holding embassies with an inactive is just a waste of government resources."
It also seems like a gesture towards the RLP-dominated Board that the President is open to cutting waste in government, a priority of the sitting Board. The administration's relations with the Board have been tense since the Chairman was informed of the ceasefire agreement negotiated with The Internationale.
Brought to you by The Liberty Gazette: integrity in news reporting.
All newspapers are actually visible on the NS++ website.
Here's ours: https://nationstatesplusplus.net/newspaper?id=582
But I do see that a nation has already been made, but if we could slap that link in somewhere that'd be nice.
I won't put it into IA since the newspaper isn't affiliated with the government at all.
10/10, A++++ would read again.
Sure, where do you want me to put the link?
Guys, our new-found friends over in Capitalist Paradise want our input into their discussions and want to forge new bonds with us. They've deregulated their communications, so you can post on their RMB from here!
Just shove it into a factbook somewhere on that nation, or else just leave it in every RMB post.
Anyone else watching SNL40 right now?
Yes, I have just tuned in has Eddie Murphy showed up yet?
Not in person, but there were a couple of clips with him in them.
Poor Paul, he is recording with the likes of Kanye and he has lost his voice, being a beatle fan watching this brakes my heart.
breaks, LOL!!!!!!!
I wouldn't say he's lost his voice, but it sounds very different indeed.
What do you think of him making music with Kanye?
This skit they're doing is horrible
It's unfunny because it's true.
*cue an angry mob of liberals from the West Coast*
I think my dad is the only person I know who is from California who is a Libertarian
Why is SNL doing this musical routine?
Just watch.
WTF!?!?!?!?! Miley Cyrus singing Paul Simon
I'm happy for you, Kanye, but even Miley's singing was better.
What is going on?
I have no idea what this performance is supposed to be.
You know, so far this SNL 40 thing has been a let down
You missed the Jeopardy skit they did - that had me in stitches.
I'll see if I can find it.
Greetings! I bring you an unquenchable appetite and thorny tendrils!
Yay, they brought back Wayne's World
Literally the only time it has ever been in high definition. :P
I know
Go eat some reds.
I'm working on an essay about the Trans Alantic Slave Trade.
Some guy's just told me that erasing graffitis creates jobs #dumbkeynesians
We should hire half of the population to write graffitis on the walls and the other half to clean their mess = infinite jobs and wealth creation #dealwithit
Now please vote for me #Yrel2016
Everyone having a good day/night?
I always go terrible in the World Census rankings.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/16/bali-nine-indonesia-has-death-penalty-double-standard-says-brother-of-spared-maid
[joke]That was the best Trans-Atlantic trade, if you ask me.[/joke]
Is that Gough Whitlam in your flag?
https://uk.isidewith.com/results/770497980
Hey Pevvania, I'm a voluntaryist too!
Do lean towards Murray Rothbard's version or David Friedman's?
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/16/opinion/george-washington-slave-catcher.html?_r=0
Good ol' George Washington! Libertarian President extraordinaire. Except for:
-His support for slavery and relentlessly pursuing escapees
-Signing the Fugitive Slave Act, which allowed slaveowners to retrieve their slaves even in free states, effectively federalising the issue
-Creating the National Bank and nationalising the currency
-Establishing a 25% tax on whiskey which led to several civilian deaths
Hi Cyber, that's great! Let me clarify that: I believe in voluntaryism but I'm not necessarily opposed to the existence of a voluntary state, or a membership-based one as conceived by Nozick.
I'd lean strongly towards Rothbard. I haven't read much of David Friedman, and Murray's Ethics of Liberty is pure gold.
Rottthhhhbbbaaarddd
There he is.
Needless to say, some of his views on children's rights (specifically that a parent can let their kid die) are not only abhorrent but inconsistent with his own principles, because when somebody has a child they immediately establish a contract to take care of the child. The only way they can dissolve this contract is by giving the kid to somebody else to look after. I still think, though, that the idea for a free market in children is a great idea. What we have now is basically a nationalised child market that's exorbitantly expensive and needlessly complicated.
I disapprove of his embrace for Buchanan-style paleoconservatism in the 1990s. Rothbard tried to court racist Dixiecrats towards libertarianism with some good ol' states' rights social conservatism, which is blatantly unconstitutional in most cases and antithetical to libertarianism. He also started arguing for immigration restrictions, which is also silly.
@Rothbard, his view is that a free society is possible because everyone ''will'' follow the non-agression pact. David Friedman concedes that it's wishful thinking and admits that there will be violence where there is an incentive to violate; this is where I lean.
I , too, believe that a free market in family dynamics is a good idea. I think children should have the choice to work or stay with family whichever is the better option. I happen to agree with Rothbard though, that parents should also have the choice to kick out their kids if they are scumbags lol
As it is, neither has the choice besides the initial birth. As a result, family dynamics are governed by MAD nowadays.
''Ryan go clean your roooom!" ''Shaattaaaap Mmaaaaaa''
At least he didn't become a king
An all but name, kinda.
So he stopped after two terms. Whoop de doop.
That one good thing obviously means that he is a God amongst men and should praised as only a true God can be.
Give me a break. That kid was a few fries short of a happy meal.
My thoughts on SNL:
1. The Jeopardy sketch was good.
2. The Californians was something I never found very funny and it went on way too long.
3. Eddie Murphy might as well have not come back for as much time as they gave him.
4. Could have gone without Kanye and Miley. They had McCartney and Simon there, give them more time.
5. God, I wish Chris Farley was still around. Melissa McCarthy just does not do him justice.
Also, The Wabash now has a capital city! I've named it Fort Ouiatenon for now, after the first European settlement in Indiana, located near the Wabash River in what is now West Lafayette.
Yeah, it could have been much better.
Always sad to see useless death.
One of the local teenagers was killed in a car accident yesterday and her infant child was injured in the same accident. She was supposed to graduate in May....
I would say that about sums up the entire night, I agree. Also, Miley Cyrus and Kanye West were a waste.
Him stepping away was huge, Washington could have made us the thing he swore to destroy if he had an ego. America could have become a monarchy and God knows monarchies don't work. Now, his political career wasn't necessarily the greatest, he made slavery stronger and taxed whiskey by 25%, but he did set up modern democracy as we know it. Also, if we would have followed everything Washington warned of in his farewell address, we wouldn't be in half the messes we are in today. Also, Washington is the reason America gained independence. I know your sentiments on that matter but Washington did lead us to freedom despite your feelings on him.
I needed a laugh thank you.
1. He never swore to destroy it. He hated the British because they rejected him for a higher Officers' Commission.
2. He was ailing and being driven into debt (at that time President's had to pay for State functions and he was fond of parties), he thought the stress would kill him.
3. The Constitution had already been written. We wouldn't have been a monarchy. The Republic had already been established.
4. Oh the guy said some words. Woohoo. If I was President and in my farewell address said "Don't drink bleach", I would be a great leader all around?
5. Washington is nowhere near the reason we gained Independence. He was the first President who was the commander over the final battle, so he is the only one we remember. Despite popular belief, before his defection, Benedict Arnold did more toward military victory than any other general. Battle for battle, George Washington had one of the worst lose-win ratios of any Continental commander. Before his massacre of the Hessian village at Trenton, he had a solid year and a half of NO VICTORIES. He was *this* close to being discharged by the Continental Congress.
You're like one of those people who will think that Truman was a great President because he ended WWII without knowing anything about him.
Don't drink bleach!
Thank you, and God bless.
1. Washington shared the same sentiment of no taxation without representation, he did not want the monarchy.
2. Washington warns of not having political parties because it would cause political and geographical discrimination.
3. With Washington's popularity, he could have easily been in power for as long as he wanted to and increase his power.
4. Everything that Washington warned of has happened, all of our troubles with the middle east, people not being able to see past parties instead of an individual, it all happened.
5. You seem to want disregard the fact the Benedict Arnold left, and that he recruited Fredric Von Stuben to have more disciplined soldiers. You seem to forget how he was able to keep an entire army together at the Hell that was Valley Forge, his Victory at Yorktown. You seem to forget that Horatio Gates was a very weak military mind and without Washington we would all have English accents. You try to argue how Washington was not a good military leader, HE DEFEATED THE BRITISH ARMY, THE GREATEST MILITARY AT THAT TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
America was still fighting Japan after all the conflict in Europe had died down, so he did not end WWII
1. Prove that he thought that. The only thing that I know for sure is that he didn't get a pay raise so he left the British and conveniently joined up with the Continentals.
2. And I warn against drinking bleach because you will die. Worship me.
3. And I just told you that he literally thought that he would die. His popularity had nothing to do with it. He wasn't being noble, he was just stressed and debt-ridden.
4. I love the Washington quote "The Twin Towers will fall on September 11, 2001. Oh yeah, and be careful about ISIS." He was wise beyond is years.
5. I said "until his defection". He didn't do that. His third lieutenant had the idea to hire Von Steuben. He arrived late, to Valley Forge and got had three soldiers whose sole job was to tend his fires to keep him warm. A real man of the people. He was also solely responsible for the victory at Yorktown. Not like the French had anything to do with that at all. Totally. I never mentioned Gates, that's all you. Prove that we would have lost without him. He had countless subordinates that were infinitely better, but never got a chance to shine because he took the credit for their collective achievement.
Saying that he defeated the British is like saying that Obama single-handedly killed Osama. He was one person in a gigantic army that had a general staff of some of the greatest military minds in history. It is one of the greatest travesties that a politician that knew how to spin a few battles is viewed as the father of our country.
*facepalm*
What did Truman do to make him famous? Something that he did to Japan? Do you need some help?
Yes I know what he did, the atomic bombs. I was saying that the conflict in Europe was over and he continued the war on a little more before dropping the atomic bombs
And I was talking about the bombs. Which is widely accepted as the definitive end of the War.
Washington believed that it was very important to set a precedent, he thought that if he died in office and another leader came after him it would simulate a monarchy.
Washington warned of foreign affairs, I didn't know you expected him to look into a looking glass from the 1790s and say: "Oh yeah Isis and 9/11". Well Humpy, try as you might, Washington was a great military mind and you are just trying to attack his character because you have a negative bias towards him. I have stated his faults, but overall without Washington America doesn't form.
Well I was speaking of the major source of the war, Germany vs all of the World. America vs Japan was kinda of separate from the European conflicts.
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