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Ankhora wrote:http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=259916

faaaaaaaaaaake

Ankhora wrote:???

Looks like a zany conspiracy theory that makes the Birthers look credible.

Ha. It seems all true.

The RLP and the ACPL have informally joined a political alliance!

Hooray for Anti-Communism!

Ankhora wrote:Ha. It seems all true.

There were a few things that were either false or poorly worded, like saying that "The United States of America has been at war with Iraq for years," when, in fact, the United States finished the troop withdrawal in December 2011. The closest thing to US involvement in Iraq, currently, is the supplying of weapons to the Iraqi government, so that they can continue their war on the Islamic State, who occupies much of Anbar, last time I checked.

The New United States wrote:There were a few things that were either false or poorly worded, like saying that "The United States of America has been at war with Iraq for years," when, in fact, the United States finished the troop withdrawal in December 2011. The closest thing to US involvement in Iraq, currently, is the supplying of weapons to the Iraqi government, so that they can continue their war on the Islamic State, who occupies much of Anbar, last time I checked.

Ok, that is not true. The US still has troops in Iraq. Mercenary and otherwise.

No hablo liberal bs

Uh, his article wasn't great but Blackwater is a very real thing.. and yes they do get hired by the military. http://academi.com/

Humpheria wrote:At the time I thought I was doing what the people wanted me to do as Chairman. I mistook the loudest voices for the majority. If you notice, when people showed their displeasure and the people spoke, I dropped it. And to be fair, you weren't active in the region at the time.

Point taken. Although the government now is radically different. It's good it was done legitimately though.

We never declared war on Iraq. The US hasn't declared war since Japan on December 8th.

Muh Roads wrote:Uh, his article wasn't great but Blackwater is a very real thing.. and yes they do get hired by the military. http://academi.com/

I know, and he's a reporter. But hes an investigative reporter, they arent usually writers, they compile the facts and then have someone else write it. Anyway, Blackwater is painfully real. The Government does alot of crap.

Northern Prussia wrote:We never declared war on Iraq. The US hasn't declared war since Japan on December 8th.

Then why can they go kill?

Muh Roads wrote:Uh, his article wasn't great but Blackwater is a very real thing.. and yes they do get hired by the military. http://academi.com/

Still less perverted than Obamacare.

"Elite training, Trusted protection."

This would be a military force in AnCapistan, except it wouldn't serve the gov but really rich guys.

Liberosia wrote:Point taken. Although the government now is radically different. It's good it was done legitimately though.

I tried to get it done legitimately, but someone still claimed a redress voted for by the Board was illegal. *glares at Muh*

"We have the ability to quickly and efficiently deploy anywhere in the world to create a more secure environment for our customers. "

Cool. I'd never work for them though, I am not suicidal. And I am a coward. Lol :$

Humpheria wrote:The RLP and the ACPL have informally joined a political alliance!

argh

Hallo Island wrote:argh

I genuinely feel sorry for your dynasty.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:"We have the ability to quickly and efficiently deploy anywhere in the world to create a more secure environment for our customers. "

Cool. I'd never work for them though, I am not suicidal. And I am a coward. Lol :$

Cool?? They call people contractors and security solution..LOL..worst cover ever.

Have you seen triple canopy?

An alliance was logical considering the coinciding views. However, there are some discrepancies that differentiate us.

Liberosia wrote:An alliance was logical considering the coinciding views. However, there are some discrepancies that differentiate us.

informal

Humpheria wrote:informal

Hence the mention of discrepancies

Ankhora wrote:Cool?? They call people contractors and security solution..LOL..worst cover ever.

Have you seen triple canopy?

It's the novelty of seeing things like "security solution," "customers," that gets to me. Pretty neat, if I say.

Still, I am against paying excessive tax money for the military, but it doesn't really matter if it's public or private to me. Killing innocents is killing innocents, regardless if you serve the almighty dollar or the "greater good."

I know, and killing innocents is still wrong.

Ankhora wrote:I know, and killing innocents is still wrong.

No one is arguing against that Ankha.

Private > Public military operations. The latter has a blank check and (false) justification while the former does not.

Good. So, do you people support mercenaries??

Ankhora wrote:I know, and killing innocents is still wrong.

I can't win an argument so I will use a broad statement to appear like I won the argument. A common argumentative tactic.

Ankhora wrote:Good. So, do you people support mercenaries??

It depends

What I mean by that is do you support Order 17.

Ankhora wrote:What I mean by that is do you support Order 17.

Order what?

Order 17 states that any mercenaries can go kill whoever however and are immune to iraqi and american courts.

Oh that's God awful

I know. This guy, Jeremy Scahill, who wrote a book on them, was going to testify against Blackwater, but Blackwater, Triple Canopy, Armor Group, Haliburton, Executive Outcomes, and DynCorp all threatened to go against the us if they even let him talk. Some blackwater guy killed 4 american rangers, and the guys families tried to sue, and Blackwater did the same thing, but this time they also tried to take 10 Million from each guys estate because of "breach of contract". These are not good people.

Post self-deleted by Pevvania.

It seems that it's harder to avoid this game than I thought.

I consider defeating the new constitutional movement one of my proudest early achievements in office. At the time, it was quite scary and to me seemed like a threat to the stability of the region. The document itself, no offense to those who drafted it, was a very poorly written morass of obscure old ideas and bad new ones. I'm so glad we pursued reform rather than replacement.

Secondly, while I would have agreed to an alliance with the ACPL anyway, remember that I founded and control the RLP, Humpheria. I like the new ACP platform, it's fresh and exciting, despite it's rebranding as a conservative party. But I still strongly oppose any attempt to bring us back to imperialism.

I agree, Liber. Public military services are professional boondogglers that manufacture false threats and crises in order to avoid budget cuts. Private (non-cronyist) military companies would have the incentive both to do its best to defeat foes and protect the innocent and to economise.

Pevvania wrote:It seems that it's harder to avoid this game than I thought.

I consider defeating the new constitutional movement one of my proudest early achievements in office. At the time, it was quite scary and to me seemed like a threat to the stability of the region. The document itself, no offense to those who drafted it, was a very poorly written morass of obscure old ideas and bad new ones. I'm so glad we pursued reform rather than replacement.

Secondly, while I would have agreed to an alliance with the ACPL anyway, remember that I founded and control the RLP, Humpheria. I like the new ACP platform, it's fresh and exciting, despite it's rebranding as a conservative party. But I still strongly oppose any attempt to bring us back to imperialism.

1. Thanks for the love, bro.

2. informal

Hey y'all, consider joining the ACPL. TG me to join

Attention!

The Libertatem - Federation of Free States Cooperation Treaty has passed the FFS legislature! It's halfway ratified!

Liberosia wrote:Hey y'all, consider joining the ACPL. TG me to join

NEVER!! Give me anything that opposes the RLP and ACOP, or give me death!

Ankhora wrote:NEVER!! Give me anything that opposes the RLP and ACOP, or give me death!

ACOP is in the MPA.... (or at least was)

As much as I disagreed with TTA, the current "MPA" is nothing cloe to what it used to be. TTA may have been a communist, but he was a good leader.

Humpheria wrote:As much as I disagreed with TTA, the current "MPA" is nothing cloe to what it used to be. TTA may have been a communist, but he was a good leader.

Really

Liberosia wrote:Really

Really what?

Humpheria wrote:Really what?

A good leader?

The MPA was at least semi-successful. They didn't win any elections but they were stronger than it's current embodiment.

Ankhora wrote:NEVER!! [B]Give me anything that opposes[/B] the RLP and [B]ACOP[/B], or give me death!

Don't tell me you're a corporatist?

CI, to be clear, you're not against all companies, just those with a relationship with the government?

Liberosia wrote:CI, to be clear, you're not against all companies, just those with a relationship with the government?

Quite so - I'm not a fan of big business, and I'm really not a fan of big government, but the two problems are exponentially worse when you combine them. I despise corporatism in this regard.

Still, not all corporations are bad - I prefer small businesses, though.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Don't tell me you're a corporatist?

I just dont like RLP, and ACOP has a title that made me overlook anything in it.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Quite so - I'm not a fan of big business, and I'm really not a fan of big government, but the two problems are exponentially worse when you combine them. I despise corporatism in this regard.

Still, not all corporations are bad - I prefer small businesses, though.

Im a small business :)

Ankhora wrote:I just dont like RLP, and ACOP has a title that made me overlook anything in it.

What's wrong with anti-corporatism?

Oh sorry, I dont like RLP and The Paul Party. ACOp is fine...

This argument reminds me of the new Call of Duty

CI, why don't you like large companies?

I like large companies but I do not like when they heavily influence the government with lobbyists and such like they do today in the US.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:I like large companies but I do not like when they heavily influence the government with lobbyists and such like they do today in the US.

Never thought Id agree with him...

Ankhora wrote:Never thought Id agree with him...

You like large companies?

No, I never thought Id agree with him, and still think that.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:I like large companies but I do not like when they heavily influence the government with lobbyists and such like they do today in the US.

They're good for profit and revenue, not government.

Ankhora wrote:No, I never thought Id agree with him, and still think that.

Well then don't right things in a manner that hints you agree with me commie

Humpheria wrote:They're good for profit and revenue, not government.

agreed 100%

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:Well then don't right things in a manner that hints you agree with me commie

agreed 100%

I really wish we never had a falling out.

Anyone read Plato's Republic?

I am right now...it'd be cool if someone did so we could converse about it.

I agree, I personally prefer small local bushiness like Apple Orchards.

Bloomington has a lovely market, a lot of your cliched family window shops. It is one of the thing I miss most during summer.

Humpheria wrote:I really wish we never had a falling out.

It's regrettable, but who cares? I think we've moved past and we're both reasonable people, so let's just forget.

Humpheria wrote:As much as I disagreed with TTA, the current "MPA" is nothing cloe to what it used to be. TTA may have been a communist, but he was a good leader.

Thanks for the encouragement, Humpheria.

Post self-deleted by Ipian.

I find that speaking truthfully rather than giving one false hopes to be much more beneficial. After you become consumed in your adolescent teen rage at seeing that your organization is a modern shadow will encourage you to work for success.

Silent night....

Humpheria wrote:I find that speaking truthfully rather than giving one false hopes to be much more beneficial. After you become consumed in your adolescent teen rage at seeing that your organization is a modern shadow will encourage you to work for success.

My organization, which has existed for less than two days....

Hallo Island wrote:My organization, which has existed for less than two days....

TTA founded the MPA months ago and it lasted for weeks with four parties and almost as many people as the RLP. You have two parties (with both less than two) and only three people. That is what I meant. And also the denouncement by TTA and pretty much everyone else but you, Ipian, and Anhka.

Pev or Liberosia, one of you needs to fix the DEFCON level system. It increases in severity from DEFCON 5(safest) to DEFCON 1(least safe) you guys have it backwards so we should be DEFCON Level 4 right now.

Humpheria wrote:TTA founded the MPA months ago and it lasted for weeks with four parties and almost as many people as the RLP. You have two parties (with both less than two) and only three people. That is what I meant. And also the denouncement by TTA and pretty much everyone else but you, Ipian, and Anhka.

What he said, Hallo. This is right.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:Pev or Liberosia, one of you needs to fix the DEFCON level system. It increases in severity from DEFCON 5(safest) to DEFCON 1(least safe) you guys have it backwards so we should be DEFCON Level 4 right now.

Liberosia. Pev is taking the next 24 hours off.

Quote of the Day: "Statists gonna state"-Liberosia

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:What he said, Hallo. This is right.

Well, in it's current form.

Hallo Island wrote:Well, in it's current form.

Then I challenge you to grow it, nurture it, and make it in to a force worthy of political battle with the RLP and friends. Only then will you experience the power and influence you crave.

Humpheria wrote:Then I challenge you to grow it, nurture it, and make it in to a force worthy of political battle with the RLP and friends. Only then will you experience the power and influence you crave.

Humpheria is saying, Hallo, that you don't know the power of the Dark Side.

Liberosia wrote:Humpheria is saying, Hallo, that you don't know the power of the Dark Side.

I don't like the implication, but pretty much.

Humpheria wrote:Quote of the Day: "Statists gonna state"-Liberosia

Yeah...where did you dig this up?

Humpheria wrote:I don't like the implication, but pretty much.

The implication that you are basically the Lord Vader of Libertatem?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBk5h9XTozc&hd=1

Liberosia wrote:The implication that you are basically the Lord Vader of Libertatem?

Didn't look at it like that.

We all know Darth Humpy is a loyal servant of Emperor Pev and His master the Dark side aka Liberosia

The Amarican Empire wrote:We all know Darth Humpy is a loyal servant of Emperor Pev and His master the Dark side aka Liberosia

That would make Pev Darth Sidious....what am I?

Humpheria wrote:Didn't look at it like that.

It's logical. How else would you look at it?

The Amarican Empire wrote:The Dark side itself.

Intriguing concept

Goodnight compadres.

I have proof! This is what i got from a Libertatem Military rally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDfJjvice3w&hd=1

I think in this instance it might be

Liberosia: Sidious

Pev: Vader

Humph: Luke that has fallen to the dark side

or

Liberosia: Darth Bane's Ghost

Pev: Sidious

Humph: Vader

and thanks for fixing the DEFCON thing it has actually been bothering me for a few days now and I just now decided to say something.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:I think in this instance it might be

Liberosia: Sidious

Pev: Vader

Humph: Luke that has fallen to the dark side

or

Liberosia: Darth Bane's Ghost

Pev: Sidious

Humph: Vader

and thanks for fixing the DEFCON thing it has actually been bothering me for a few days now and I just now decided to say something.

I like the first the most.

And no problem.

Lone Star: Darth Maul

Snabagag: Dooku

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