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The Time Alliance wrote:Morning y'all.

G'morning.

Morning everyone.

I'm tempted to make a puppet each month that follows a different political ideology so I can try my hand at arguing from all ideological standpoints.

The Time Alliance wrote:I'm tempted to make a puppet each month that follows a different political ideology so I can try my hand at arguing from all ideological standpoints.

Without looking like a flip flop.

The Time Alliance wrote:I'm tempted to make a puppet each month that follows a different political ideology so I can try my hand at arguing from all ideological standpoints.

Just use TTA.

Miencraft wrote:Just use TTA.

The Time Alliance wrote:Without looking like a flip flop.

The Time Alliance wrote:

Do it anyways, because you're already known for being one.

The Time Alliance wrote:

Which I already look like to an extent because of my last joke (INGSOC follower)

Miencraft wrote:Do it anyways, because you're already known for being one.

Hahaha...

I guess maybe.

Muh Roads wrote:So... your against juries?

I'm pretty sure the juries have to be unanimous or the convicted citizen goes free.

Looks like our operation in TCU is moving along nicely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i96VS_z8y7g

Greatest movie of all time

Right-Winged Nation wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i96VS_z8y7g

Greatest movie of all time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c

You guys ever have that moment when you know there is something off about a guy, but you cant put your finger on it and then he tells you he is an anarcho-com and youre all like that was it, youre mentally challenged

Lack There Of wrote:You guys ever have that moment when you know there is something off about a guy, but you cant put your finger on it and then he tells you he is an anarcho-com and youre all like that was it, youre mentally challenged

*crickets chirp*

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:*crickets chirp*

*birds sing*

Free market bro. :)

Muh Roads wrote:*birds sing*

Free market bro. :)

Free market is the way to go

Lack There Of wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c

Also a great cinematic work.

Sorry Tsardom, but I laughed hard at this: https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10689568_10204597814563208_4221729565266206080_n.jpg?oh=5b674c11db8b690a32d873a9df3b3bb2&oe=54CD9538&__gda__=1422331950_886b97bf8359bac5f8975b5a5c471140

#ThrowbackWednesday: North Korea questions how a gay man could write a legitimate human rights report on the totalitarian state: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/04/22/north-korean-state-media-slams-u-n-human-rights-report-because-it-was-led-by-a-gay-man/

Dem Scottish cvnts better not leave.

Hermesgrad wrote:Dem Scottish cvnts better not leave.

I think we should look towards the Great Emancipator for wisdom.

"Peeps wanna succeed? I'll kill em" - Abraham Lincoln

Pevvania wrote:I think we should look towards the Great Emancipator for wisdom.

"Peeps wanna succeed? I'll kill em" - Abraham Lincoln

im liking where this is going....

which uninformed "freedom seekers" disliked that?

Hermesgrad wrote:im liking where this is going....

which uninformed "freedom seekers" disliked that?

Ikr! People who want self-determination are stupid, naïve idealists. Government should be spread as far as possible; because they have more power, they have more reason to be benevolent and good to the people. One nation, one Britain.

Pevvania wrote:Ikr! People who want self-determination are stupid, naïve idealists. Government should be spread as far as possible; because they have more power, they have more reason to be benevolent and good to the people. One nation, one Britain.

I thought you were being serious for a second but then I was like "Oh, it's Pev".

Pevvania wrote:Ikr! People who want self-determination are stupid, naïve idealists. Government should be spread as far as possible; because they have more power, they have more reason to be benevolent and good to the people. One nation, one Britain.

they have their own parliament they can decide literally everything but weather to go to war. they can make decisions in the English parliament and the English cant make decisions in theirs, they get free Uni tuition and free proscriptions which the rest of the uk doesn't. plus we give them £1bln every year. they get more benefits than anyone else in the UK including England. its ungrateful and they will fail and ol' muggings over here will have to pay to bale them out. they are the only "oppressed" people that get treated better than the "oppressors".

scotland isnt some dumb "freedom" thing like the US was, the reason they are in the uk is because we bailed them out, we didn't even invade them we saved them from bankruptcy then they have the nerve to call us oppressors, Pricks!(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3HnMLq8m9U&index=69&list=UU2C_jShtL725hvbm1arSV9w) they need us and we need them.

Statists gonna state

Muh Roads wrote:Statists gonna state

You must hate children

Pevvania wrote:You must hate children

Sure, but that's liberty for you. All about hate.

In all seriousness, it is a Scottish issue and therefore up to the Scots. But I strongly believe that a federal model of governance would serve everyone. Powers would be devolved to every locality, so there'd be little to complain about in being in a Union. Having a senate would also help things a lot, because then every region would send the same amount of representatives to the national legislature. The current parliamentary system is deeply slanted towards England. Of Britain's 650 MPs, something like 60 are Scottish, Welsh and North Irish.

Pevvania wrote:In all seriousness, it is a Scottish issue and therefore up to the Scots. But I strongly believe that a federal model of governance would serve everyone. Powers would be devolved to every locality, so there'd be little to complain about in being in a Union. Having a senate would also help things a lot, because then every region would send the same amount of representatives to the national legislature. The current parliamentary system is deeply slanted towards England. Of Britain's 650 MPs, something like 60 are Scottish, Welsh and North Irish.

but Scotland have their own parliament which we cannot interfere, but they can in ours

Hermesgrad wrote:but Scotland have their own parliament which we cannot interfere, but they can in ours

You should never fight the will of the people. If they wish to be a separate state from the bloody queen, let it be. Britain just loves having colonies in the 21st century. Not to mention the economic interests.

No, there should be independence for Scotland.

Pevvania wrote:Sorry Tsardom, but I laughed hard at this: https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10689568_10204597814563208_4221729565266206080_n.jpg?oh=5b674c11db8b690a32d873a9df3b3bb2&oe=54CD9538&__gda__=1422331950_886b97bf8359bac5f8975b5a5c471140

I nearly pissed myself on this one

Pevvania wrote:I think we should look towards the Great Emancipator for wisdom.

"Peeps wanna succeed? I'll kill em" - Abraham Lincoln

You're damn right. Aint no state, but the state im running

Humpheria wrote:You should never fight the will of the people. If they wish to be a separate state from the bloody queen, let it be. Britain just loves having colonies in the 21st century. Not to mention the economic interests.

No, there should be independence for Scotland.

oh here we go, the yanks and their FREEDOM AND INDEPENDENCE. you guys weren't saying that when the south wanted to leave.

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Hermesgrad wrote:oh here we go, the yanks and their FREEDOM AND INDEPENDENCE. you guys weren't saying that when the south wanted to leave.

Bunch of traitorous rat b******s! They were the most ungrateful little pukes. If i was still in charge theyd still be occupied

Hermesgrad wrote:oh here we go, the yanks and their FREEDOM AND INDEPENDENCE. you guys weren't saying that when the south wanted to leave.

Speaking as a Confederate sympathizer, yes, I would have been.

Pevvania wrote:In all seriousness, it is a Scottish issue and therefore up to the Scots. But I strongly believe that a federal model of governance would serve everyone. Powers would be devolved to every locality, so there'd be little to complain about in being in a Union. Having a senate would also help things a lot, because then every region would send the same amount of representatives to the national legislature. The current parliamentary system is deeply slanted towards England. Of Britain's 650 MPs, something like 60 are Scottish, Welsh and North Irish.

There's two problems with that:

1. Since this is a such a huge change, it's ridiculous that 50%+1 can drag the other 50%-1 along with them. The fact that the "Yes" vote is going to be, at most, 53% shows that the people deserve a hell of a lot more convincing before they're willing to leave the Union.

2. A whole bunch of Scots were disenfranchised simply because they took advantage of union and happen to live outside of Scotland in other parts of the UK. Legally, they are still living in their own country and yet they are punished for that. Even if you're living in a foreign country, there's no reason that you should lose the right to vote.

Humpheria wrote:Speaking as a Confederate sympathizer, yes, I would have been.

racist, Watch yourself, there aint no habeas corpus when old Abe is around

Humpheria wrote:Speaking as a Confederate sympathizer, yes, I would have been.

i dont think its possible for yanks to understand the situation, its not about "English oppression", they are apart of the UK they are as much apart of the UK as everyone else, we share colonies.

if you had read my other post, you'd see that we didnt even invade them, it was a mutually beneficial relationship that they agreed to.

Humpheria wrote:Speaking as a Confederate sympathizer, yes, I would have been.

wut

Funkytopia wrote:There's two problems with that:

1. Since this is a such a huge change, it's ridiculous that 50%+1 can drag the other 50%-1 along with them. The fact that the "Yes" vote is going to be, at most, 53% shows that the people deserve a hell of a lot more convincing before they're willing to leave the Union.

2. A whole bunch of Scots were disenfranchised simply because they took advantage of union and happen to live outside of Scotland in other parts of the UK. Legally, they are still living in their own country and yet they are punished for that. Even if you're living in a foreign country, there's no reason that you should lose the right to vote.

Maybe Scotland could be divided into a pro-UK nation and an independent one. Or maybe we could just use a little good ol'-fashioned panarchist, and let individuals choose their own government.

Hermesgrad wrote:i dont think its possible for yanks to understand the situation, its not about "English oppression", they are apart of the UK they are as much apart of the UK as everyone else, we share colonies.

if you had read my other post, you'd see that we didnt even invade them, it was a mutually beneficial relationship that they agreed to.

They agreed to when, exactly?

I agree with Gordon Brown on this issue. The UK should go to a more American model. Giving Scotland rights to handle everything but foreign policy under a federal system. I wish that the house of Lords would be scraped and each nation in the uk would get 1 to 2 seats. It would make Great Britain more unified and more modern.

Gordon brown is a cvnt and everyone know it, E V E R Y O N E.

The Amarican Empire wrote:I agree with Gordon Brown on this issue. The UK should go to a more American model. Giving Scotland rights to handle everything but foreign policy under a federal system.

This is literally what they have now.

The house of Lords is outdated. I think that most brits might agree. A bunch of rich guys have some power over everyone

And the British people have no say over that house.

Humpheria wrote:They agreed to when, exactly?

1707

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3HnMLq8m9U&index=69&list=UU2C_jShtL725hvbm1arSV9w

Hermesgrad wrote:Gordon brown is a cvnt and everyone know it, E V E R Y O N E. This is literally what they have now.

Please stop using such inflammatory language, your ignorance is showing.

The Amarican Empire wrote:The house of Lords is outdated. I think that most brits might agree. A bunch of rich guys have some power over everyone

And the British people have no say over that house.

there is also the hose of commons....

Hermesgrad wrote:Gordon brown is a cvnt and everyone know it, E V E R Y O N E. This is literally what they have now.

If that's what Scotland has then what is the problem? Don't they see Scotland is stronger and more wealthy in its union?

Hermesgrad wrote:1707

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3HnMLq8m9U&index=69&list=UU2C_jShtL725hvbm1arSV9w

So, no one that is still alive? Okay.

Hermesgrad,

you need

Minarchy in the UK

hurhurhurhur

Humpheria wrote:Please stop using such inflammatory language, your ignorance is showing.

My ignorance!? your the yank that didn't even know Scotland willingly entered the Union. im using perfectly acceptable language.

Hermesgrad wrote:there is also the hose of commons....

Yes 2 houses. But the house of Lords is rich men inheriting positions to their sons.

The Amarican Empire wrote:If that's what Scotland has then what is the problem? Don't they see Scotland is stronger and more wealthy in its union?

that's exactly what we are saying to them, but y'know salmond has ulterior motives. he is extremely right wing, and one of the most racist people with power, I mean c'mon, the Scottish National Party.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Yes 2 houses. But the house of Lords is rich men inheriting positions to their sons.

Amarican, I appoint you Chief Douchebag of the Libertatem Empire.

Enjoy your position, twat. Here's your monocle.

(hehe)

The Amarican Empire wrote:Yes 2 houses. But the house of Lords is rich men inheriting positions to their sons.

isnt the American system the same, just rich people with power?

Isn't the SNP basically a Scottish Nationalist Labour Party?

Hermesgrad wrote:My ignorance!? your the yank that didn't even know Scotland willingly entered the Union. im using perfectly acceptable language.

I asked you that as a rhetorical device to demonstrate that it was done THREE CENTURIES AGO. Perfectly acceptable must mean something else in the Queen's Empire.

Hermesgrad wrote:isnt the American system the same, just rich people with power?

Yes but they are elected rich men.

Humph, are you really pro-CSA?

Pevvania wrote:Humph, are you really pro-CSA?

PRO-CSA, not pro slavery.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Isn't the SNP basically a Scottish Nationalist Labour Party?

no they are like the BNP-the UK Nazi party.

Humpheria wrote:I asked you that as a rhetorical device to demonstrate that it was done THREE CENTURIES AGO. Perfectly acceptable must mean something else in the Queen's Empire.

so? no one is alive from when texas joined the US but if it wanted to leave it couldn't legally do so.

Humpheria wrote:PRO-CSA, not pro slavery.

same thing really...

Both the north and the south were wrong in their actions, however my loyalty is always to the North and the hills of the mid-atlantic.

Hermesgrad wrote:same thing really...

I reference my early statement. Your ignorance is showing.

Humpheria wrote:PRO-CSA, not pro slavery.

But the CSA's core purpose was to preserve slavery... Its own constitution literally forbids freeing slaves.

Hermesgrad wrote:so? no one is alive from when texas joined the US but if it wanted to leave it couldn't legally do so.

If they did attempt to secede, they would do it, firstly.

Secondly, no one would use the argument that they originally joined. It was a long time ago, different time, different people, different politics. Same with Scotland.

Pevvania wrote:But the CSA's core purpose was to preserve slavery... Its own constitution literally forbids freeing slaves.

Saying core purpose is a stretch. The formation of the Confederate states was a direct result of Northern Oppression, the orginal founding had little to do with slavery. That came later.

But, I have said it here before, I was raised in a semi-Southern educational system. My eighth grade history book called it the "War of Northern Aggression". It's all about how you were raised. People aren't hardwired to be a certain religion, they are taught. Similar situation.

Humpheria wrote:I reference my early statement. Your ignorance is showing.

Oh really? So when your clearly showing off that great US education on something that happening on the other side of the world its ok, but when i say something that has factual foundations and a reasonable argument its "ignorant"? You Sir a CVNT. You are the reason this region has a bad rep and you are the biggest, the most infuriating Cvnt i have ever had the displeasure of communicating with :)

Pevvania wrote:But the CSA's core purpose was to preserve slavery... Its own constitution literally forbids freeing slaves.

OMG PEV YOUR SOOOOO IGNORANT!

Humpheria wrote:Saying core purpose is a stretch. The formation of the Confederate states was a direct result of Northern Oppression, the orginal founding had little to do with slavery. That came later.

But, I have said it here before, I was raised in a semi-Southern educational system. My eighth grade history book called it the "War of Northern Aggression". It's all about how you were raised. People aren't hardwired to be a certain religion, they are taught. Similar situation.

I'm definitely not saying that the North were in the right. War was pretty much Lincoln's first reaction to the secession. He didn't even care about slavery as much as others within the Republican Party; hell, he gave the South an offer to keep their current slaves as long as they stayed within the Union! And I am, for all intents and purposes, pro-secession in the case of separating yourself from a tyrannical government. But the South was not libertarian or constitutionalist in any way whatsoever. The CSA was a violent, backward, autocratic state that literally disallowed slaveowners from letting their slaves go free. No libertarian should sympathise with them.

Humpheria wrote:No, you tried to join the Left and they rejected you. Now you're just attempting to get in good with them because you're done playing a conservative. Time for your next role.

I don't think you understand what I mean. I expected Libertatem to close embassies since we are with the Left now. However, no such action was taken, so I took the liberty of doing it. Since we have embassies with the left and are forming relations with them, I don't think they rejected us.

Also, try not to be a jerk. All you've done is criticize me and my region. This isn't diplomacy, it's Humph getting mad because you lost another ally and Libertatem is getting smaller and weaker every day. Pevvania, we need you back.

Have a nice day. Goodbye.

Hermesgrad wrote:Oh really? So when your clearly showing off that great US education on something that happening on the other side of the world its ok, but when i say something that has factual foundations and a reasonable argument its "ignorant"? You Sir a CVNT. You are the reason this region has a bad rep and you are the biggest, the most infuriating Cvnt i have ever had the displeasure of communicating with :)

Oi! There is NO need for that. You've pretty much forfeited all your credibility in this debate by using that word. Please restrain yourself.

Shermaniya wrote:

Also, try not to be a jerk. All you've done is criticize me and my region. This isn't diplomacy, it's Humph getting mad because you lost another ally and Libertatem is getting smaller and weaker every day. Pevvania, we need you back.

Have a nice day. Goodbye.

Amen to that!

Pevvania wrote:Oi! There is NO need for that. You've pretty much forfeited all your credibility in this debate by using that word. Please restrain yourself.

what? Cvnt?

Hermesgrad wrote:Oh really? So when your clearly showing off that great US education on something that happening on the other side of the world its ok, but when i say something that has factual foundations and a reasonable argument its "ignorant"? You Sir a CVNT. You are the reason this region has a bad rep and you are the biggest, the most infuriating Cvnt i have ever had the displeasure of communicating with :)

1. Saying that an entire nation is based on one issue is not "factual and reasonable". If you have such and argument, I would love to see it rather than a three word post which you claim to be factual and reasonable. I sit in wait.

2. Pretty big words from someone who only posts every few days to spout adolescent filthy vocabulary.

3. I believe you meant to put emphasis on "biggest" rather than "the". If you meant to put "the" in italics, I rest my case.

Shermaniya wrote:I don't think you understand what I mean. I expected Libertatem to close embassies since we are with the Left now. However, no such action was taken, so I took the liberty of doing it. Since we have embassies with the left and are forming relations with them, I don't think they rejected us.

Also, try not to be a jerk. All you've done is criticize me and my region. This isn't diplomacy, it's Humph getting mad because you lost another ally and Libertatem is getting smaller and weaker every day. Pevvania, we need you back.

Have a nice day. Goodbye.

I think I'm a little peeved as well that you'd go to the trouble of courting us and flirting with the idea of joining REATO, and even stealing our RMB, but then going ahead and deciding to build bridges with terrorists. You were beginning to blossom into a shining beacon of democracy and centrism, but it seems you have forfeited such hopes now in an attempt to sell your souls to totalitarians. What a shame.

And as a population, we've experienced numerous peaks and troughs. Our recent recession has hardly had any impact on our activity or might. We'll get back up, perhaps back to 130 nations by the end of the year.

Shermaniya wrote:I don't think you understand what I mean. I expected Libertatem to close embassies since we are with the Left now. However, no such action was taken, so I took the liberty of doing it. Since we have embassies with the left and are forming relations with them, I don't think they rejected us.

Also, try not to be a jerk. All you've done is criticize me and my region. This isn't diplomacy, it's Humph getting mad because you lost another ally and Libertatem is getting smaller and weaker every day. Pevvania, we need you back.

Have a nice day. Goodbye.

Haw haw, we touched your heart.

Humpheria wrote:1. Saying that an entire nation is based on one issue is not "factual and reasonable". If you have such and argument, I would love to see it rather than a three word post which you claim to be factual and reasonable. I sit in wait.

2. Pretty big words from someone who only posts every few days to spout adolescent filthy vocabulary.

3. I believe you meant to put emphasis on "biggest" rather than "the". If you meant to put "the" in italics, I rest my case.

1. Thats not what i said, i said that the Confederacy and slave ownership came hand in hand.

2.what does the frequency of my posts have to do with anything?

3. i did mean to put the emphasis on "the".

Pevvania wrote:But the CSA's core purpose was to preserve slavery... Its own constitution literally forbids freeing slaves.

It's a tuff issue. Yes, they contradicted themselves with slavery and thought it was alright. But, at the same time they desired states rights. Idealy, they would come to compromise, ban slavery, but have states rights with a founding principle of non-coercion.

Shermaniya wrote:I don't think you understand what I mean. I expected Libertatem to close embassies since we are with the Left now. However, no such action was taken, so I took the liberty of doing it. Since we have embassies with the left and are forming relations with them, I don't think they rejected us.

Also, try not to be a jerk. All you've done is criticize me and my region. This isn't diplomacy, it's Humph getting mad because you lost another ally and Libertatem is getting smaller and weaker every day. Pevvania, we need you back.

Have a nice day. Goodbye.

That's rich. You've made it abundantly clear that you do not wish to have any diplomacy. If you will remember, you're the one that broke the alliance, not I.

Same to you, good luck convincing Das Kommune!

Hermesgrad wrote:1. Thats not what i said, i said that the Confederacy and slave ownership came hand in hand.

2.what does the frequency of my posts have to do with anything?

3. i did mean to put the emphasis on "the".

Hermesgrad wrote:same thing really...

Let us all take a moment and enjoy this extremely thorough factual and reasonable argument.

Hermesgrad wrote:1. Thats not what i said, i said that the Confederacy and slave ownership came hand in hand.

2.what does the frequency of my posts have to do with anything?

3. i did mean to put the emphasis on "the".

No. A principle of non-coercion could be set in stone. That's the basis of a free society.

Shermaniya wrote:I don't think you understand what I mean. I expected Libertatem to close embassies since we are with the Left now. However, no such action was taken, so I took the liberty of doing it. Since we have embassies with the left and are forming relations with them, I don't think they rejected us.

Also, try not to be a jerk. All you've done is criticize me and my region. This isn't diplomacy, it's Humph getting mad because you lost another ally and Libertatem is getting smaller and weaker every day. Pevvania, we need you back.

Have a nice day. Goodbye.

Sherm, you're being ridiculous; to my knowledge, we had no intention whatsoever to close embassies with your region, regardless of which alliances you sought to make. You run a sovereign region; we're not going to be your babysitter, even if you do change your mind.

The only "criticisms" I have seen from Libertatem officials against your region is that you attempted to open embassies with Das Kommune (and even then, that wasn't really a dealbreaker for us) and that you copied our regional message board. Nothing else!

It sounds to me like you've taken offense to Humpheria for some reason, and expect Pevvania to say something that will make this better. As you've just seen from his comment, you will receive no such affirmation. If you're willing to think critically, we'll consider an apology and I'll consider moving my puppet back to your region. Otherwise, good day.

Pevvania wrote:I think I'm a little peeved as well that you'd go to the trouble of courting us and flirting with the idea of joining REATO, and even stealing our RMB, but then going ahead and deciding to build bridges with terrorists. You were beginning to blossom into a shining beacon of democracy and centrism, but it seems you have forfeited such hopes now in an attempt to sell your souls to totalitarians. What a shame.

And as a population, we've experienced numerous peaks and troughs. Our recent recession has hardly had any impact on our activity or might. We'll get back up, perhaps back to 130 nations by the end of the year.

Can't argue with that. Das Kommune is full of terrorists (Though Communal Earth would just call me a hypocrite for this).

Humpheria wrote:That's rich. You've made it abundantly clear that you do not wish to have any diplomacy. If you will remember, you're the one that broke the alliance, not I.

Same to you, good luck convincing Das Kommune!

We don't need to convince Das Kommune. There are other more significant regions we have established relations with and continue to do so.

We should just get this out of the way:

Secession to create a freer nation (USA>Britain) = good

Secession to create a slave state (CSA<USA) = bad

Hermesgrad wrote:1. Thats not what i said, i said that the Confederacy and slave ownership came hand in hand.

You know the great thing about confederations? They allow states to make the rules, more or less. I'm rather certain that many of the state's would have dropped slavery, it wasn't the core issue.

Even after slavery was abolished, segregation was obviously a huge problem. Sadly, you can still see the effects of it today.. even in the North.

Shermaniya wrote:We don't need to convince Das Kommune. There are other more significant regions we have established relations with and continue to do so.

Then I wish you luck in those fields.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Sherm, you're being ridiculous; to my knowledge, we had no intention whatsoever to close embassies with your region, regardless of which alliances you sought to make. You run a sovereign region; we're not going to be your babysitter, even if you do change your mind.

The only "criticisms" I have seen from Libertatem officials against your region is that you attempted to open embassies with Das Kommune (and even then, that wasn't really a dealbreaker for us) and that you copied our regional message board. Nothing else!

It sounds to me like you've taken offense to Humpheria for some reason, and expect Pevvania to say something that will make this better. As you've just seen from his comment, you will receive no such affirmation. If you're willing to think critically, we'll consider an apology and I'll consider moving my puppet back to your region. Otherwise, good day.

Appreciate the response, but from what I have done in the past, it appears that Libertatem isn't accepting of communists.

Humpheria wrote:Then I wish you luck in those fields.

Thank you. I see this region as much more civilized than the more extremist regions of stalinists and such.

Shermaniya wrote:Appreciate the response, but from what I have done in the past, it appears that Libertatem isn't accepting of communists.

Must not be us you're looking at if that's the appearance - we've been nothing but accommodating, particularly in your case.

Shermaniya wrote:Appreciate the response, but from what I have done in the past, it appears that Libertatem isn't accepting of communists.

I dunno, if true stateless communism was possible I'd rather live with it than a fascist state. Just saying. That's as good as a compliment towards communism that you'll ever get out of me.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Must not be us you're looking at if that's the appearance - we've been nothing but accommodating, particularly in your case.

If Pev can back you up on this, than I am completely wrong. All I have heard in the past year is that Libertatem is staunchly anti-communist (Which is different from REATO's Anti-authoritrianism).

Muh Roads wrote:I dunno, if true stateless communism was possible I'd rather live with it than a fascist state. Just saying. That's as good as a compliment towards communism that you'll ever get out of me.

Wow, thanks!! :|

It would be great to keep embassies, but I don't think the Left would agree.

It's worth a try. My reputation is pretty destroyed with a lot of people on NS, and for good reasons, but it can be improved over time.

Shermaniya wrote:Appreciate the response, but from what I have done in the past, it appears that Libertatem isn't accepting of communists.

We aren't accepting of Totalitarian communists. We are fine with passive communists. I actually campaigned on making other alliances with passive and moderate communists.

Shermaniya wrote:It would be great to keep embassies, but I don't think the Left would agree.

The way I see it, it's always better to pick the allies you would strongly favor and that can be very helpful in a conflict and just stop caring about how other people will view them.

Shermaniya wrote:Appreciate the response, but from what I have done in the past, it appears that Libertatem isn't accepting of communists.

Well, I have to dispute this. It's a big misconception. Clearly, we permit total, unrestricted freedom of speech and association in this region (it's in our Constitution), which applies to communists. Tsardom from UCR is a communist, and has made a few half-hearted attempts to create a communist party here. Ankha was a communist, and apparently he's not anymore, but still the first to be elected to a Board seat. We'll always be libertarian in nature, because that's just who we attract.

But what we have a problem with is the bullies and invaders of the game, fascists and communists alike, riding under the banner of socialism. That's where we draw the line. We've had many opportunities to annihilate several notable communist regions that are peaceful and democratic, but have chosen not to. We are enemies of socialist imperialism, but not necessarily enemies of socialism.

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