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I prefer my southern flag idea more anyway.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:How about a Floyd flag?

I don't like physics that much, lul

Right-Winged Nation wrote:I miss Humpy

Er.. RWN you still get to see Humpy, right?

>.>

Muh Roads wrote:Er.. RWN you still get to see Humpy, right?

>.>

Yeah, why?

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Yeah, why?

I mean, I don't see how you can miss him all that much.. lol

Muh Roads wrote:I mean, I don't see how you can miss him all that much.. lol

I mean for this game, just quite not the same without him.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:I mean for this game, just quite not the same without him.

Yeah, he was here with me since the beginning and then went away in a flash. Very sad :(

So, I have recently gotten into the show Gotham, and it's quite good. So two chicks are making out for whatever reason, and my brother and dad complain about how Hollywood is shoving immoral values down our throats. I'm over here thinking, wow these are really attractive women, what's the problem here?

Right-Winged Nation wrote:So, I have recently gotten into the show Gotham, and it's quite good. So two chicks are making out for whatever reason, and my brother and dad complain about how Hollywood is shoving immoral values down our throats. I'm over here thinking, wow these are really attractive women, what's the problem here?

No problem at all, if you don't like to see homosexuals making out don't watch.

Muh Roads wrote:No problem at all, if you don't like to see homosexuals making out don't watch.

Exactly, and they were chicks. Which society allows to be okay anyways.

Two girls making out..... Please I'm tring to go to bed. Don't get me excited.

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The Amarican Empire wrote:Two girls making out..... Please I'm tring to go to bed. Don't get me excited.

not dykes either, the elegant ones.

I'll work on my flag idea tomorrow.

We dont need more flag Ideas, perfection is starring us in the face.

Lack There Of wrote:We dont need more flag Ideas, perfection is starring us in the face.

Can you please respond to my telegram?

Nothing is true, everything is permitted.

The current flag represents war and an old era. It's time for Liberratem to be reborn into a peaceful Libertarian Republic!

The Amarican Empire wrote:The current flag represents war and an old era. It's time for Liberratem to be reborn into a peaceful Libertarian Republic!

Is it ok with you if I quote your public posts as well?

O and by the Confederate flag I mean the blood stained confederate flag.

Jambion wrote:Is it ok with you if I quote your public posts as well?

The Amarican Empire wrote:Nothing is true, everything is permitted.

Lack There Of wrote:We dont need more flag Ideas, perfection is starring us in the face.

Do you know how my mom insulted me today? She called me a Yankee.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Do you know how my mom insulted me today? She called me a Yankee.

Hahaha

The Amarican Empire wrote:Do you know how my mom insulted me today? She called me a Yankee.

Well are you?

The Amarican Empire wrote:Do you know how my mom insulted me today? She called me a Yankee.

Aren't you from the mitten?

Jambion wrote:Well are you?

Or are you a Yank that fancies himself a Southern gentleman?

I cannot and will not recant any flag, for to go against the flag is neither right nor safe. Here I stand, I can do no other, so help me God. Amen

Jambion wrote:Or are you a Yank that fancies himself a Southern gentleman?

I am technically a yank yes. Michigan born. But my heart and mind are in the south.

The Amarican Empire wrote:I am technically a yank yes. Michigan born. But my heart and mind are in the south.

Mhmmm.

Even tho my southern accent is obviously fake.....

Puts up the stars and bars.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Puts up the stars and bars.

the irony here is tremendous

Lots of that "want-to-be" southern feel in Michigan. Very outdoorsy state with plenty of activities and influences that could be considered "southern" to the unenlightened I guess. It's all too sad how many people don't even know what it means to be "southern". Here's a hint, it has nothing to do with tractors, trucks, drinking, bonfires, camping, hunting, fishing, etc. Southern does not equal country nor redneck.

What? I wore a stars and bars at school today also.

Muh Roads wrote:Lots of that "want-to-be" southern feel in Michigan. Very outdoorsy state with plenty of activities and influences that could be considered "southern" to the unenlightened I guess. It's all too sad how many people don't even know what it means to be "southern". Here's a hint, it has nothing to do with tractors, trucks, drinking, bonfires, camping, hunting, fishing, etc. Southern does not equal country nor redneck.

State's Rights!

The Amarican Empire wrote:What? I wore a stars and bars at school today also.

want's to change regional flag that holds historical and traditional significance because it symbolizes something that some people dont like.

flies stars and bars that many people feels represents institutionalized racism if not worse, but justifies it because it holds historical and traditional significance.

I suggest you follow my example, and dismantle your confederate flag.

The Amarican Empire wrote:State's Rights!

That's one very miniscule aspect of it, I suppose. Bless your heart.

I know what some people see it as. I don't see this flag as a sign of racism.

The Amarican Empire wrote:I know what some people see it as. I don't see this flag as a sign of [insert negative stero type about our flag here]

The Amarican Empire wrote:State's Rights!

Oh this boy ain't right. Bless your heart is right.

So I guess I am the new tta of the region?

Jambion wrote:Oh this boy ain't right. Bless your heart is right.

I know I need help. Ankha is my mental health adviser :)

The Amarican Empire wrote:So I guess I am the new tta of the region?

Just when it comes to sheep's clothing, son.

Fine ill take down the flag.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Fine ill take down the flag.

Why did you put the American, Monacon, and German flag together?

The Amarican Empire wrote:Fine ill take down the flag.

and embrace our home colors, atta boy

Lack There Of wrote:want's to change regional flag that holds historical and traditional significance because it symbolizes something that some people dont like.

flies stars and bars that many people feels represents institutionalized racism if not worse, but justifies it because it holds historical and traditional significance.

I was going to say this but Lack beat me to it.

We already have to defend and explain the current flag that already ticks off many potential allies. Now, let's pick one that pisses off everybody who isn't extremely conservative or southern.

Guess what? The flag is supposed to be a symbol that represents the region positively to others. It ought to stand on its own merits and if you have to explain it, by definition the flag isn't doing it's job.

If we have to explain or defend it, we've already lost...

Jambion wrote:Why did you put the American, Monacon, and German flag together?

Its Amarican, German, Polish, greek. Its a flag of my heritage minus Lithuanian.

Funkytopia wrote:I was going to say this but Lack beat me to it.

We already have to defend and explain the current flag that already ticks off many potential allies. Now, let's pick one that pisses off everybody who isn't extremely conservative or southern.

Guess what? The flag is supposed to be a symbol that represents the region positively to others. It ought to stand on its own merits and if you have to explain it, by definition the flag isn't doing it's job.

If we have to explain or defend it, we've already lost...

Certainly interesting rhetoric. Very convincing.

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The Amarican Empire wrote:Its Amarican, German, Polish, greek. Its a flag of my heritage minus Lithuanian.

Mixing flags like that is disrespectful to each of the separate nations. Standards were made to represent pride and independence, not to be poorly edited together.

Um miencraft made this flag for me.....

The Amarican Empire wrote:Um miencraft made this flag for me.....

That has absolutely nothing to do with my previous comment. It is still disrespectful.

From your point of view.

The Amarican Empire wrote:From your point of view.

Once a society loses it's sense of respect in place of petty selfishness, it is lost. Each of those flags symbolizes something greater than your lineage does. To put those flags together is to spit in the faces of your ancestors and their countrymen.

Funkytopia wrote:I was going to say this but Lack beat me to it.

We already have to defend and explain the current flag that already ticks off many potential allies. Now, let's pick one that pisses off everybody who isn't extremely conservative or southern.

Guess what? The flag is supposed to be a symbol that represents the region positively to others. It ought to stand on its own merits and if you have to explain it, by definition the flag isn't doing it's job.

If we have to explain or defend it, we've already lost...

It would appear we have strikingly different desires of a flag. The flag is the standard that the region rallies behind at times of triumph and despair. It is a completely in house special not to be shaped by the desires of out side powers and wishes.

Furthermore, if the flag was truly so offensive I doubt we would be able to work with regions such as AAA and the other devoutly communist regions participating in the raid on CAPS as we speak. It has been proven again and again that our flag does not hinder our chances with the outside world. A nation from this region got a resolution passed condemning a communist nation through the WA. If the flag was truly such a sticking point such a proposal would have never made it out of a draft due to it being viewed as ideologically motivated.

If we change our flag now, after years of fighting under its shadows the left will pounce upon us and claim a victory unlike any other. They will say we were forced into it by the powers at be, that we are simply trying to hide our true colors, and they would be right. We all know why we are here and what principles this region was founded upon.

This flag requires no ones approval other than our own, and it has surpassed even that standard.

Jambion wrote:Once a society loses it's sense of respect in place of petty selfishness, it is lost. Each of those flags symbolizes something greater than your lineage does. To put those flags together is to spit in the faces of your ancestors and their countrymen.

And to put ones ancestors flag up and not ancestors is like ignoring part of your heritage.

The Amarican Empire wrote:And to put ones ancestors flag up and not ancestors is like ignoring part of your heritage.

What?

What do you mean "and not ancestors"

Not another ancestor. Like if I put a german flag up and nor a polish one up.

The Amarican Empire wrote:And to put ones ancestors flag up and not ancestors is like ignoring part of your heritage.

That doesn't make any sense but I still stand by what I said. To put those flags in one undermines the purpose of a national standard. You don't have to disrespect your heritage to remember it. You don't see me flying the Bonnie Blue and Old Glory on the same pole.

If I changed my flag everytime someone disliked it then I would habe to change it every couple hours. I am sticking with this flag for now and I dont care what everyone else thinks.

Jambion wrote:That doesn't make any sense but I still stand by what I said. To put those flags in one undermines the purpose of a national standard. You don't have to disrespect your heritage to remember it. You don't see me flying the Bonnie Blue and Old Glory on the same pole.

Clarification: My heritage stems from both sides. While I come from both, it would be disrespectful to fly both together. I can easily remember both, but I feel that it is a greater testament to my devotion and remembrance to show them both the respect and reverence that they deserve and command.

I am not fighting with you anymore jammy. Its not worth the fight. We are both region members so we should just agree to disagree.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Can we get to the flag vote already? Bra has passed.

That reminds me, did we ever actually do the thing that changes the House to only Citizens?

Because if we didn't, there's a whole bunch of nonsense that would happen. If we did, then yes, it passed already.

But anyways, if I close a poll before it finishes on its own, the records are lost, so we need to see it through to the end, which Constitutionally is five days for amendments.

Looking at the Constitution, we did do that thing.

Good.

If you say so. President Miencraft sir.

The piece on Vice President Roads is up on the paper. The President's will go up today.

Jambion wrote:The piece on Vice President Roads is up on the paper. The President's will go up today.

The President's is now up as well.

Come support me in the CFN Poll, Libertatem!

You'll get some signed albums if you vote!

Lack There Of wrote:It would appear we have strikingly different desires of a flag. The flag is the standard that the region rallies behind at times of triumph and despair. It is a completely in house special not to be shaped by the desires of out side powers and wishes.

Furthermore, if the flag was truly so offensive I doubt we would be able to work with regions such as AAA and the other devoutly communist regions participating in the raid on CAPS as we speak. It has been proven again and again that our flag does not hinder our chances with the outside world. A nation from this region got a resolution passed condemning a communist nation through the WA. If the flag was truly such a sticking point such a proposal would have never made it out of a draft due to it being viewed as ideologically motivated.

If we change our flag now, after years of fighting under its shadows the left will pounce upon us and claim a victory unlike any other. They will say we were forced into it by the powers at be, that we are simply trying to hide our true colors, and they would be right. We all know why we are here and what principles this region was founded upon.

This flag requires no ones approval other than our own, and it has surpassed even that standard.

I agree entirely.

The Amarican Empire wrote:State's Rights!

Huh. I didn't know that governments had more rights than people.

Pevvania wrote:Huh. I didn't know that governments had more rights than people.

States rights is the right of the people in an area (state) to control their local government with less interference from the federal government, this is taking power away from government and giving to people, on a local level.

Arlenton wrote:States rights is the right of the people in an area (state) to control their local government with less interference from the federal government, this is taking power away from government and giving to people, on a local level.

What you're describing is constitutionally referred to as states' powers, a concept that I strongly support and one that has prevented or stopped hundreds of potential expansions in government. But there's a certain segment of the Tenth Amendment movement that believe that individual states not only have the right not to be pushed around by the federal government, but the right to take away the liberty of individuals within the state. This makes no sense, because the whole justification behind states' powers is that the federal government is a threat to individual liberty, and states must intervene to stop them. The so-called confederacy had no right to secede whatsoever, because the primary reason for doing so was keeping millions of human beings in literal slavery. I love the South, but the CSA was a vile, blood-soaked, authoritarian institution built upon hatred and fear.

Pevvania wrote:What you're describing is constitutionally referred to as states' powers, a concept that I strongly support and one that has prevented or stopped hundreds of potential expansions in government. But there's a certain segment of the Tenth Amendment movement that believe that individual states not only have the right not to be pushed around by the federal government, but the right to take away the liberty of individuals within the state. This makes no sense, because the whole justification behind states' powers is that the federal government is a threat to individual liberty, and states must intervene to stop them. The so-called confederacy had no right to secede whatsoever, because the primary reason for doing so was keeping millions of human beings in literal slavery. I love the South, but the CSA was a vile, blood-soaked, authoritarian institution built upon hatred and fear.

Im not supporting the CSA, im just saying that states' citizens having the right to determin what happens in their state, within constitutional limits, is a good thing.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:I agree entirely.

Viva la Bandera! Viva Libertatem!

Lack There Of wrote:Viva la Bandera! Viva Libertatem!

Ni un paso atras! Mantenga la bandera!

¡frijoles refritos!

Muh Roads wrote:¡frijoles refritos!

Son riquisimos, compadre

Hey all.What's happening?

Hello there Libertatem!

I'm the current Commissioner of The Commonwealth of Democratic Nations. I'd like to personally extend the hand of friendship to Libertatem and its people. I request that your leadership contacts and I hope that you accept my offer to strengthen our two regions relationship.

Signed-

Yitzchak David Winternitz, Commissioner of the CDN

Renegalis wrote:Hey all.What's happening?

Not much, really.

Oh well. Happens I guess.

Miencraft wrote:Not much, really.

you have undersold the issues at hand.

Some of the most striking victories against the left in recent times, major constitutional reforms, an imminent embassy shake up, and a coming civil war that threatens to tear the region apart from the inside all based on the color and style of our flag.

Lack There Of wrote:you have undersold the issues at hand.

Some of the most striking victories against the left in recent times, major constitutional reforms, an imminent embassy shake up, and a coming civil war that threatens to tear the region apart from the inside all based on the color and style of our flag.

Well. Nothing much, besides all the other stuff that's happening.

Y'know.

Nothing really going on here and now, though. Sure, in CAPS 50 of our dudes are beating the crap out of the reds, but that's not exactly here and honestly they basically won forever at this point.

Lack There Of wrote:you have undersold the issues at hand.

and a coming civil war that threatens to tear the region apart from the inside all based on the color and style of our flag.

Lack There Of wrote:

"coming"

As in, soon.

Not now.

I'm on Team Lack in regards to the flag. He summed up the case against flag reform perfectly. Although, I'd be happy with a new flag if it retained some anti-Bolshevik symbolism.

Great newspaper articles, Mr. Pres and Vice Pres. I'm truly touched by the kind words.

Pevvania wrote:I'm on Team Libertatem in regards to the flag.

Fixed it. This is bigger than any of us, this is the past, present, and future of the region we're talking about.

Pevvania wrote:Great newspaper articles, Mr. Pres and Vice Pres. I'm truly touched by the kind words.

Jamby's pretty good at this stuff, I tell ya hh-waht.

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We could have mivs flag idea with the ani communist sign in the left.

The Amarican Empire wrote:We could have mivs flag idea with the ani communist sign in the left.

Why not both the left and the right?

Symmetry, man.

Because it would look better on the left.

No anti-communist signs at all. We must be welcoming to our comrades.

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