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I'll take a break of campaigning to ask y'all a question.

My brother often turns to me for help with his English homework. I've helped (see: done entirely) to construct some brilliant pieces of writing, most notably one concerning a task in which he had to create a product or service and pitch it to the class. We came up with the CatKit, body armour made for cats, and I wrote a speech filled with enough falsified statistics, puns and funny quips ("The CatKit: because you might die, but your cat won't!") to leave his class in stitches. He got an A on that assignment.

Now, my task is to write him a speech about anything at all that he'll present over the course of three minutes. He's a real gun nut, so he wanted to base his speech on the case for bringing legalised weapons back to England. I appropriately jumped on the prospect of this, and outlined plans in my head to craft a powerful presentation suffused with statistics, indicting arguments against gun control and a philosophical case for the right to self defense.

But my brother now has some reservations. He said to me that he wants his speech to be funny; he wants "the whole class laughing", and doesn't want a 'super-serious' speech like the one I've proposed.

I still really want to do it on guns. I want the malleable minds in his class to be convinced of gun freedom. How do you guys think I can fuse humour with an intellectually weighted argument for guns?

Have you seen the video "Chuck Woolery on Assault Weapons" on Youtube. Its a humorous yet reasonable argument of the second amendment.

Humor and guns in wirting.. thats hard...

The only funny thing I can think of concerning guns I guess would be the lone ranger..

I suppose you could maybe twist the "If guns kill people, than spoons make people fat" arguement into something funny.

Take jabs at leftists who support gun control. Ridicule them and make them the butt of some jokes to show how irrational their position is. Use satire.

Liberosia wrote:Take jabs at leftists who support gun control. Ridicule them and make them the butt of some jokes to show how irrational their position is. Use satire.

I considered this, but according to my brother his classmates are not very intelligent and "wouldn't get" high-brow jokes like that. I think he wants constant zingers, which would be hard to do while making a convincing speech.

Funny story: I participated in a debate on Thursday in my American History class. We were partitioned into five groups, each of which had the task of defending a US President involved in the Vietnam War and try to paint other Presidents as the ones whose fault it was for America's entry into Vietnam.

I had to defend Truman, and I whipped out so many zingers I won. One in particular: I repeated the Ron Paul quip of "Oh, I've gotta respond to that!", leaving the class in laughter.

Just created a board game.

Brits get an American history class?

I never even heard of a British history class in my old high school...

I think everything we needed to know about British history was covered in early American history, lol.

Budget cuts.

Hallo has no votes? What the hell...

Ipian wrote:Hallo has no votes? What the hell...

conspiracy

Pev has the popularity of FDR and Reagan combined.

Pevvania wrote:conspiracy

:0 OMG PEVV IS BUYING VOTES! Lol...

If Mr. Hallo is around, I'd like to ask him precisely what he's campaigning on and what plans he has for the region.

Better late than never, am I right?

Miencraft wrote:If Mr. Hallo is around, I'd like to ask him precisely what he's campaigning on and what plans he has for the region.

Aye, I'm actually quite disappointed how thin and vague his campaign has been. I don't think he's come up with any new ideas.

Pevvania wrote:Aye, I'm actually quite disappointed how thin and vague his campaign has been. I don't think he's come up with any new ideas.

He is not on right now.

Ipian wrote:He is not on right now.

Thus, "If Mr. Hallo is around..."

He'll more than likely scroll through the RMB to see what's happened when he does get on. Hopefully we'll get an answer.

I'd like to see a debate between Pev and Lack on internal and foreign policy. Although Lack's not running this time, I think he would do the best job of representing the non-interventionist position. Thoughts?

The Lone Star wrote:I'd like to see a debate between Pev and Lack on internal and foreign policy. Although Lack's not running this time, I think he would do the best job of representing the non-interventionist position. Thoughts?

I like that idea. Perhaps we could do that some time next month.

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The Amarican Empire wrote:Exactly he is not on, Pev is on twise as long as Hallo. Another reason why he is winning.

Inactivity really does kill your career.

I CTE'd last time I was a resident of Libertatem. I was Board Chairman at the time. Had the same people been around when I returned, I'd not be in the position I am today.

Exactly he is not on, Pev is on twice as long as Hallo. Another reason why he is winning.

To Hallo Supporters.

Why vote for Hallo? What Political Experience does he have to be able to become the Executive? Why vote for someone that is not really active? What can he offer to Libertatem and is that better then what Pev can offer?

Hallo i suggest you build up to the Presidency by getting experience in lower offices.

The Amarican Empire wrote:To Hallo Supporters.

Why vote for Hallo? What Political Experience does he have to be able to become the Executive? Why vote for someone that is not really active? What can he offer to Libertatem and is that better then what Pev can offer?

He is active. You are just using right now as a lousy example. He may have a emergency or something of the sort.

He can offer the destroying of bigger not smaller Statist regions, and many other things.

funny,the Bigger regions have active founders. how would hallo destroy these larger regions if their founder can just ban our Armed Forces?

The Amarican Empire wrote:funny,the Bigger regions have active founders. how would hallo destroy these larger regions if their founder can just ban our Armed Forces?

I'm not Hallo, so when he comes on ask him.

Ipian wrote:He is active. You are just using right now as a lousy example. He may have a emergency or something of the sort.

He can offer the destroying of bigger not smaller Statist regions, and many other things.

We've destroyed plenty of large commie regions, and are in the process of destroying many more.

Hallo is running a single-issue campaign of "We'll destroy the big commie regions!" Maybe this would hold weight if he had a) served any significant military service, b) understood current war policy or c) had any tangible plan to destroy said regions.

But as it stands he has none of these under his belt, so his campaign has little to no credibility.

Back to politics: anarchists, what's your game plan? Would you favour an unconditional, immediate abolition of the state, or do you prefer a more gradualist approach?

If the government is to be abolished, in my opinion, it should only be done once all other tyrannies on Earth are eradicated.

I am not an anarchist, but I would prefer a gradualist approach. Unless you are an Agorist, there really is no game plan to establish AnCapism except distributing libertarian ideas and hoping people agree (hint: they won't)

funny,the Bigger regions have active founders. how would hallo destroy these larger regions if their founder can just ban our Armed Forces?

Sgorgania wrote:funny,the Bigger regions have active founders. how would hallo destroy these larger regions if their founder can just ban our Armed Forces?

As legitimate as a question as that is, I must comment that it's wonderful to know that your CTRL+C and CTRL+V both work.

Muh Roads wrote:Good luck to both candidates.

Mr. President and Hallo,

What are your plans concerning your cabinet? Will you retain the current cabinet or make alterations? This includes the attorney general.

Alterations will be made, not only to reduce RLP power, but to mold the cabinet to be more diverse in opinions.

Hallo Island wrote:Alterations will be made, not only to reduce RLP power, but to mold the cabinet to be more diverse in opinions.

Sounds like affirmative action for extremists.

Today, on the 150th day of Pevvania's reign, ask yourselves. Has it been as glorious and exciting as he has made it out to be? I have been here since the beginning of his presidency, and I have seen every single aspect of the way he rules. He maintains one set of opinions in Libertatem, and whenever anyone goes against these opinions, he has his people ridicule and slander them until they can no longer reside here. The RLP has gained a large amount of power, creating a sort of dictatorship which will not allow any other party to get in positions of power. If I am elected, Libertatem will again become a multi party state with each party having a fair chance. There will be no more suppression of opinions. On the topic of the war, I will not reduce our military affairs, but I will refocus them. We will focus on espionage and information and target larger regions and their satellites.

in the forthcoming elections, I shall be a candidate as President!

Sgorgania wrote:in the forthcoming elections, I shall be a candidate as President!

Please leave us alone.

Miencraft wrote:Inactivity really does kill your career.

I CTE'd last time I was a resident of Libertatem. I was Board Chairman at the time. Had the same people been around when I returned, I'd not be in the position I am today.

I was out with my grandparents. They are going to die soon, so best get as much time with them as possible.

Pevvania wrote:[B]PEVVANIA/HUMPHERIA 2014[/B]

On September 14th, 2013, the Founder issued a dire warning.

"A gap has appeared. A gap that threatens to push Libertatem off the edge and into the pit; the point of no return. The region's long time leaders are leaving (or resigning), the people are quitting, and the resources for our force are shrinking. A stagnation has gripped the region."

And he was right. Libertatem was very rapidly disintegrating. Our Founding Fathers had all but left us. In October, our population hit a low point of 48 nations. Today that would have placed us as the 252nd-largest region in the world, or as large as the Federation Of Free States. Our RMB was as dead as a Mid-Western ghost town, our spirits were eroded. The Army was not just dormant, but completely inoperative - its structure had collapsed, all operations were permanently suspended, and it was completely starved of active volunteers. Our alliances fell apart. We were all alone. And meanwhile, the regional government was completely dormant, and its few operational elements were actively resisting constitutional reform to fix our broken region.

I had never planned on running for the Presidency, but I knew that I was the only one who could lead this great region back to greatness. So I did with a five-point plan to restore our region. I planned to [B]RECRUIT[/B] more nations, [B]RESHUFFLE[/B] our dead government, [B]RESTORE[/B] our military, [B]REPAIR[/B] our foreign affairs and [B]REFORM[/B] the Constitution. My plan, I said, would lead to a sixth R: recovery.

And it did. The Great Depression of late-2013 ended in a matter of weeks as heavy recruiting efforts brought a new generation of Libertatemites, and our population doubled to 100 nations. I replaced the dormant Board and Managers - some of whom had actually left the region - with a staff of committed public servants ready to pave the way for a new era. The Military came back with a vengeance, going on to roll back Communism in over 113 regions. My diplomatic team repaired our foreign relations, opening up exciting new relationships and rekindling some old ones. Long-sought reform to the Constitution finally came, weakening the power of the executive and creating an elected Board.

Note how Pevvania attributes all accomplishments to himself, bloating his already inflated ego.

On into my second term, the beginning of the first continue to this day. We rode out the March Recession like a vociferous horse, bringing our population from 73 nations to an all-time high of 116 in less than one month. For the first time ever we're in the top 100 largest regions, at 92nd place. We are the largest libertarian region on NationStates, and the fifth-largest anti-communist region. Domestic politics are creating new opportunities for the less active in our region to participate. I and the Reaganist Libertarian Party have continued the reforms of my first term, going on to restructuring immigration and codifying the judiciary. We have become a strong force in interregional politics, with many independent regions being taken under our wing. We have established a reputation of loyalty to our allies, and are a credible threat to our enemies. And needless to say, the military is doing the best it has ever been in all our history.

And this paragraph supports my above musings...

With all these successes, you may ask, why would I run for a third term? And the answer to that is: you ain't seen nothing yet. My work is not done; there is more to accomplish before my Presidency ends. Specifically, the War on Communism. We have reached a point when victory against the Empire we've struggled so hard to fight is not a distant dream, but a reachable reality viewable in the distance. Due to the actions of Libertatem, important hubs of foreign military power have been destroyed. Due to our actions, the NS Left is on its knees, leaderless and stagnant. Their ten-year reign of terror is finally coming to an end. But I must finish this job. I will continue to fight on long after the end of my Presidency, but today I see my goal as creating an army that is equipped to sustain itself years into the future.

Note how he steals the phrase "the NS Left on their knees" from my campaign ad, low move, Pev.

Today, it's morning again in Libertatem, as more nations will participate, post and vote than ever before. Under my leadership, our region is prouder, stronger and better.

Better only for the RLP.

[B]Vote Pevvania/Humpheria today at the polls - for liberty, strength and republicanism![/B]

Because apparently I am not republican enough.

Hallo Island wrote:Because apparently I am not republican enough.

If you wouldn't mind answering my question,

Miencraft wrote:If Mr. Hallo is around, I'd like to ask him precisely what he's campaigning on and what plans he has for the region.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Exactly he is not on, Pev is on twice as long as Hallo. Another reason why he is winning.

I've been on nonstop for about a week.

Miencraft wrote:If you wouldn't mind answering my question,

Hallo Island wrote:Today, on the 150th day of Pevvania's reign, ask yourselves. Has it been as glorious and exciting as he has made it out to be? I have been here since the beginning of his presidency, and I have seen every single aspect of the way he rules. He maintains one set of opinions in Libertatem, and whenever anyone goes against these opinions, he has his people ridicule and slander them until they can no longer reside here. The RLP has gained a large amount of power, creating a sort of dictatorship which will not allow any other party to get in positions of power. If I am elected, Libertatem will again become a multi party state with each party having a fair chance. There will be no more suppression of opinions. On the topic of the war, I will not reduce our military affairs, but I will refocus them. We will focus on espionage and information and target larger regions and their satellites.

Hallo Island wrote:

But... we're already a multi-party region. All the parties already have a fair chance. We already have a lack of opinion suppression.

Your campaign thus far seems to be based on strawmen and mudslinging, not actual goals for the region.

Miencraft wrote:But... we're already a multi-party region. All the parties already have a fair chance. We already have a lack of opinion suppression.

The parties do not have a fair chance.

that its because we have tons of small regions and one big one. the only way to give small partys a "Fair Chance" would be to Unite into a Large party. therefore it would be large party against large party.

Hallo Island wrote:The parties do not have a fair chance.

They do. They just need to prove that they can offer things that are better than what just so happens to be the present majority. As it just so happens, the majority of people in Libertatem agree with the RLP anyways, which is kind of why they're here. They're here because they just so happen to have the same opinions as RLP members. I do vote and have voted for non-RLP candidates, as have other RLP members. But if the non-RLP candidate can't convince me that they're the better choice, then I'll vote for the RLP candidate because I'm more likely to agree with them. That's why the RLP is the majority.

Also, show me the opinion suppression you mentioned.

Hallo Island wrote:Please leave us alone.
You can explain to me why I should not have the right to say my position? After all, are always a member of the Confederation! and it is my right to speak my thoughts!

The Amarican Empire wrote:that its because we have tons of small regions and one big one. the only way to give small partys a "Fair Chance" would be to Unite into a Large party. therefore it would be large party against large party.

I plan on allying the smaller parties, but not completely merging them.

Hallo Island wrote:I plan on allying the smaller parties, but not completely merging them.

How did that work out for TTA?

Hallo Island wrote:I plan on allying the smaller parties, but not completely merging them.

Ah, there's the problem: the party system is privatized. You can't ally the smaller parties. Only they can do that.

Oh, and

Miencraft wrote:

Also, show me the opinion suppression you mentioned.

Miencraft wrote:Ah, there's the problem: the party system is privatized. You can't ally the smaller parties. Only they can do that.

I am already working on that.

Miencraft wrote:Oh, and

Also, whenever anyone talks about the RLP having too much power, or TTA, and basically everything TTA ever said.

Hallo Island wrote:Also, whenever anyone talks about the RLP having too much power, or TTA, and basically everything TTA ever said.

No, I mean specific examples from the RMB.

A Party is a union of people. The reason RLP is more power full then any other party is because it 1 has the same or more people then all the small parties put together and it has a large message for the people. Hallo the only way to make opposition stronger is more members in one Party.Then Spreading you ideas into the Public.

Miencraft wrote:No, I mean specific examples from the RMB.

Sorry, I don't feel like digging through the RMB.

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Hallo Island wrote:Sorry, I don't feel like digging through the RMB.

Fine, then I'll just debunk them without examples.

Hallo Island wrote:Also, whenever anyone talks about the RLP having too much power

If you're going to back this one up, at least, you're going to need to give specific examples as to how exactly we tried to stop people from having this opinion. Every time we've come back at this, we've done so knowing that people are entitled to have this opinion, and as a result have simply explained that the RLP is the majority party and will naturally have the most support, until another party becomes the majority.

Hallo Island wrote:or TTA, and basically everything TTA ever said.

This is beating a dead horse by now. TTA attacked Libertatemites and demonstrated military hostility to Libertatem as a whole. As a result, he was found guilty of treason and removed not for his ideas, but because he attacked Libertatem.

Miencraft wrote:Fine, then I'll just debunk them without examples.

If you're going to back this one up, at least, you're going to need to give specific examples as to how exactly we tried to stop people from having this opinion. Every time we've come back at this, we've done so knowing that people are entitled to have this opinion, and as a result have simply explained that the RLP is the majority party and will naturally have the most support, until another party becomes the majority.

This is beating a dead horse by now. TTA attacked Libertatemites and demonstrated military hostility to Libertatem as a whole. As a result, he was found guilty of treason and removed not for his ideas, but because he attacked Libertatem.

How about me? I was called TTA for no known reason.

TTA was a traitor and you just did something that he would do. I think TTA has become a political insult like Fascist or Socialist also.

Ipian wrote:How about me? I was called TTA for no known reason.

Because you got here during the instability after TTA's banishment when he was still using puppets to try to circumvent his ban.

But please, explain how this is in any way related to oppression.

Miencraft wrote:Because you got here during the instability after TTA's banishment when he was still using puppets to try to circumvent his ban.

But please, explain how this is in any way related to oppression.

UmmmÂ… I was banned...

Ipian wrote:UmmmÂ… I was banned...

Yes, because you acted like TTA in a time when we were scouting for TTA alts.

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=hallo_island/detail=factbook/id=248443

Huehuehuehue

Miencraft wrote:Yes, because you acted like TTA in a time when we were scouting for TTA alts.

Yes, but it was wrong. I was banned for being a person I was not.

To be fair you guys were kinda a dick about it.

Ipian wrote:Yes, but it was wrong. I was banned for being a person I was not.

But you acted like him, so naturally we thought you were him. You're here now, aren't you, though?

Hallo Island wrote:To be fair you guys were kinda a dick about it.

Because TTA was banned for treason, and ban evasion is a serious problem.

Miencraft wrote:But you acted like him, so naturally we thought you were him. You're here now, aren't you, though?

Yes I am, thank god.

Hallo Island wrote:To be fair you guys were kinda a dick about it.

Very true.

The Libertarian Imperialist party at the moment is divided on who should be President, but Pevvania is the best choice. Hallo Island, your fight for tta is grand, but all you have done is harm your campaign. I urge you to drop the agenda on TTA, and focus on your election

Northern Prussia wrote:The Libertarian Imperialist party at the moment is divided on who should be President, but Pevvania is the best choice. Hallo Island, your fight for tta is grand, but all you have done is harm your campaign. I urge you to drop the agenda on TTA, and focus on your election

I disagree, Prussia.

Northern Prussia wrote:I urge you to drop the agenda on TTA, and focus on your election

I agree with this, though.

4 days ago, by Hallo Island:

[quote]Hire based on ability, not diversity.[/quote]

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Republic Of Minerva wrote:4 days ago, by Hallo Island:

[quote]Hire based on ability, not diversity.

And Hallo has ability.

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Ipian wrote:And Hallo has ability.

Does he really? If he does, he has a really bad way of proving it. Going around throwing slander and propping up strawmen is not a very good indicator of ability.

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Miencraft wrote:Does he really? If he does, he has a really bad way of proving it. Going around throwing slander and propping up strawmen is not a very good indicator of ability.

*sigh* *groan*

Ipian wrote:*sigh* *groan*

See?

The incumbent has the clear lead.

I guess you could... *puts on shades*

...say Hallo to another Pevvania term.

YEAAAAAAAAAAH

Hallo Island wrote:I was out with my grandparents. They are going to die soon, so best get as much time with them as possible.

Shut the f*ck up before I break my foot off in your ass.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:The incumbent has the clear lead.

I guess you could... *puts on shades*

...say Hallo to another Pevvania term.

YEAAAAAAAAAAH

F***ing aye

Hallo Island wrote:F***ing aye

I will kill you. Have some god damned respect.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:The incumbent has the clear lead.

I guess you could... *puts on shades*

...say Hallo to another Pevvania term.

YEAAAAAAAAAAH

Wow

Hallo Island wrote:http://www.nationstates.net/nation=hallo_island/detail=factbook/id=248443

Huehuehuehue

Yeah, uh, we're with the Anti-Corporatist Party down the street, and I understand you have a dying campaign on the premises...*SLAM*

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Yeah, uh, we're with the Anti-Corporatist Party down the street, and I understand you have a dying campaign on the premises...*SLAM*

Haha oh

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Yeah, uh, we're with the Anti-Corporatist Party down the street, and I understand you have a dying campaign on the premises...*SLAM*

That was beautiful.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Yeah, uh, we're with the Anti-Corporatist Party down the street, and I understand you have a dying campaign on the premises...*SLAM*

I actually didn't get that joke until my twelfth time through the episode.

Hey what happened to VOTERR?

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Yeah, uh, we're with the Anti-Corporatist Party down the street, and I understand you have a dying campaign on the premises...*SLAM*

I laughed so hard at this my girlfriend was questioning whether to call the mental institution or not.

Hallo Island wrote:Hey what happened to VOTERR?

Pev: I think I'll scrap the VOTERR Amendment for now. But I'd like to see the DEMOCRATIC Amendment passed.

313 days ago..

I'm guessing something to do with that.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:The incumbent has the clear lead.

I guess you could... *puts on shades*

...say Hallo to another Pevvania term.

YEAAAAAAAAAAH

*sigh*

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Yeah, uh, we're with the Anti-Corporatist Party down the street, and I understand you have a dying campaign on the premises...*SLAM*

*longer sigh*

Godisdead wrote:Shut the f*ck up before I break my foot off in your ass.

Godisdead wrote:I will kill you. Have some god damned respect.

Such hostilitiesÂ

G'night everybody.

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