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Miri Islands wrote:How long till cure

You know, I hate this event. It was entertaining the first time, but now?

In other news, my nation's economy, civil rights, and political freedoms are perfect for what I want them to be.

Me during this whole event:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=82VznLgRdAE

0:58

Jadentopian Order

Miencraft wrote:I've always just used "Gay", because half of LGBT literally means gay, another quarter is basically just half-gay, and then the last quarter isn't a sexuality so it doesn't belong in the alphabet soup anyways.

'course, this is compounded by the fact that, I, being a normal person could not possibly care less about who people want to screw, so I don't bother with labelling stuff for no reason.

Are women privileged for having their own gender-specific term for "gay"??

The tax and regulation cuts are great, but the US will not consistently hit 3% annual growth again until a) Congress fundamentally restructures the regulatory system, b) several federal departments are abolished, c) spending is under control and d) the immigration system is fixed.

Miencraft, Narland, The New United States, Miri Islands

also we should annex Greenland by force

The New United States

Pevvania wrote:Are women privileged for having their own gender-specific term for "gay"??

And theirs comes first!

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:Also Panama

And Alberta

The New United States

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:Also Panama

Why not?

The United States Of Patriots wrote:And Alberta

Maybe we can trade Alberta for New England? Actually no what am I saying I love Boston

Pevvania wrote:Why not?

Maybe we can trade Alberta for New England? Actually no what am I saying I love Boston

No, that's a good idea. Shouldn't be too hard to visit Canadian New England, and we won't have to live with their horrible electoral decisions.

pfft zombies aren’t real

Rateria

I’m going to need help. Now I’m in a struggle against Balloon.

Whenever I talk to a conspiracy theorist, I like to confront them with an even crazier conspiracy.

"Bro, the moon landing was faked."

"Pfft, you believe in the moon?"

My favorite conspiracy I ever heard was that you can actually breath in space, they just don't want us to leave. Just the image of some dude in a cropduster flying vertically, into the upper atmosphere screaming "I'm going to Mars y'all, YEEYEE!"

Rateria

Conspiracy theorists could use more positive representation in media.

The States Of Balloon wrote:Conspiracy theorists could use more positive representation in media.

I've found that Alex Jones reliably gets about 30% of the story correct, like the whole gay frogs meme.

The claim was: "The damn globalists are turning the freakin frogs gay!"

There WAS a corporation, who was putting some chemicals into the frog's habitat, that caused them to change genders, but it wasn't intentional. It can also be reasonably assumed they were globalist types, considering most corporatists are.

So rather than: "The globalist are turning the frogs gay!" SOME globalists, were ACCIDENTALLY turning SOME frogs trans.

Pevvania, Rateria

Skaveria wrote:I've found that Alex Jones reliably gets about 30% of the story correct, like the whole gay frogs meme.

The claim was: "The damn globalists are turning the freakin frogs gay!"

There WAS a corporation, who was putting some chemicals into the frog's habitat, that caused them to change genders, but it wasn't intentional. It can also be reasonably assumed they were globalist types, considering most corporatists are.

So rather than: "The globalist are turning the frogs gay!" SOME globalists, were ACCIDENTALLY turning SOME frogs trans.

this has absolutely nothing to do with my post

The States Of Balloon wrote:this has absolutely nothing to do with my post

It's tied in with conspiracy theorists considering Alex Jones is the most noteable one. You said that conspiracy theorists could use more positive media coverage. Me saying that Alex Jones is partially correct implies that I agree with you. It was kinda disjointed I suppose, but you could've figured it out if you weren't such a memist.

Skaveria wrote:I've found that Alex Jones reliably gets about 30% of the story correct, like the whole gay frogs meme.

The claim was: "The damn globalists are turning the freakin frogs gay!"

There WAS a corporation, who was putting some chemicals into the frog's habitat, that caused them to change genders, but it wasn't intentional. It can also be reasonably assumed they were globalist types, considering most corporatists are.

So rather than: "The globalist are turning the frogs gay!" SOME globalists, were ACCIDENTALLY turning SOME frogs trans.

I heard that the chemicals made male frogs associate more with male frogs, but I’d have to look. As for Alex Jones being somewhat accurate, this is the only instance I can think of regarding this. I don’t view him favorably though.

somebody cure missile spam me pls

Rateria

Jadentopian Order wrote:somebody cure missile spam me pls

Same here

Rateria

I especially need help. I have over nine billion zombies and under 400 million survivors.

Skaveria wrote:It's tied in with conspiracy theorists considering Alex Jones is the most noteable one. You said that conspiracy theorists could use more positive media coverage. Me saying that Alex Jones is partially correct implies that I agree with you. It was kinda disjointed I suppose, but you could've figured it out if you weren't such a memist.

My original post was more about fiction. I think it’s time to phase out the crazy tinfoil hat wearing schizo and instead have rounded characters who happen to be into conspiracies. I think there’s a lot of untapped potential for examining how they think. How do they choose who to trust? Is there a threshold for what they’ll believe? What effects do their views have on relationships with others? There’s a lot of room for nuance there.

Rateria

This event was almost interesting the first time it happened, but it and the nukes being annual things is just kinda annoying at this point. They never actually do anything or give any rewards so, like, yep.

I have 0 million survivors, send help

Wyattish wrote:I have 0 million survivors, send help

I tried, but the other nations used extermination squads, leaving no one left.

Wyattish wrote:I have 0 million survivors, send help

I just had a potentially controversial yet effective idea. If someone sends you zombies and then cures them, it might work. I’ve never heard of this being tried before.

Rateria wrote:I just had a potentially controversial yet effective idea. If someone sends you zombies and then cures them, it might work. I’ve never heard of this being tried before.

Can zombies bring back dead?

Jadentopian Order wrote:Can zombies bring back dead?

Not to my knowledge. My thinking was that an influx of new zombies would add to population, but I could be wrong.

On second thought, I don’t think that my idea would work. I read the description, which stated that zombies convert survivors.

Rateria wrote:On second thought, I don’t think that my idea would work. I read the description, which stated that zombies convert survivors.

Already tried

Miri Islands wrote:Already tried

Thanks for the effort.

Pevvania wrote:also we should annex Greenland by force

Devon Island would be better for purchase. There is nobody there to object. It's not as big, but it is strategic for a Globular Warming tropical island paradise.

***Narland embraced the Zombies like in the stupidity in the Marvel Comic books***

I turned on C-SPAN just in time to watch the clown show vote on the sham impeachment. Why do we even have a Congress? (Rhetorical question). Delusional Democrats and Cowardly Republicans. Democrats openly declaring fealty to the unelected administrative state that have dug in their heels against Liberty and Justice over and above their oath office and serving the interests of the People of the United States. Republicans speaking mealy-mouthed words of yellow bellied pre-emptive surrender.

The turpitude of a statist Democrat saying, "... a republic, if you can keep it...." from the House floor is such mind-boggling shamelessness. It is they who tried to destroy the Republic in a bloody Civil War. It is they who fought against every damned republican (little r) Civil Rights Act except for the last one because it finally had an unprecedented statist plank that gave DC control over my domicile and everyone's rents. It is they who passed the Jim Crow laws denying republican self-governance to the largest minority in the US. It they who passed the unconstitutional (anti-republic) Progressivist Acts that have hindered and hurt the republican standards of Separation of Powers, limited government, and checks and balances. And then they turn around and accuse the entire Nation (half of which have always found their goals reprehensible) of being the very thing their forebears represented. And now they shred what semblance of a republic we have left by voting for an impeachment inquiry with no proof of high crimes and misdemeanors. The hypocrisy is sickening.

Miencraft, Pevvania, Auxorii, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Miri Islands, Wyattish

Republic Of Minerva needs alot of cure missiles

Republic Of Minerva

Miri Islands wrote:Republic Of Minerva needs alot of cure missiles

Hey, we could use some too over here in Beance!

I don't like this event but I hate whoever sent an elimination squad even more, because up until just now I had a perfect no-death run going.

Beance

Miencraft wrote:I don't like this event but I hate whoever sent an elimination squad even more, because up until just now I had a perfect no-death run going.

This, as a dictator I should be the only one killing my citizens

Aw, zombies are over. Libertatem was almost completely purified

Miri Islands wrote:Aw, zombies are over. Libertatem was almost completely purified

mmmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarghlge

Narland wrote:mmmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarghlge

Hat is the meaning of this

Can someone explain to me how allowing freedom of the press made my civil rights go down?

Narland, The New United States, Rateria

Miri Islands wrote:Can someone explain to me how allowing freedom of the press made my civil rights go down?

Because Max Barry.

Islands, Narland, The New United States, Auxorii, Rateria

Miri Islands wrote:Can someone explain to me how allowing freedom of the press made my civil rights go down?

Probably because the civilians aren't safe from the press anymore because the press has 'unlimited freedom'

Narland, The New United States

Islands wrote:Probably because the civilians aren't safe from the press anymore because the press has 'unlimited freedom'

Welcome, new resident! I am just an average citizen of this lovely region of Libertatem, entirely characteristic of the general political sentiment around these parts.

Islands, The New United States, Rateria, Miri Islands

Tupolite wrote:Welcome, new resident! I am just an average citizen of this lovely region of Libertatem, entirely characteristic of the general political sentiment around these parts.

Thanks! Great to be back in this great region. It has been too long.

The New United States, Rateria

Islands wrote:Thanks! Great to be back in this great region. It has been too long.

I think I vaguely remember you. Now if only Lib and that Japanese would come back.

Post by Highway Eighty-Eight suppressed by a moderator.

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:Who's "that Japanese"?

Who dat boy, who him is?

Miencraft, Islands, Jadentopian Order

Welcome back Islands!

He is one of our oldest residents, before even Miencraft and myself. If I recall correctly he first resided in Libertatem in 2012 and served in President Snabagag's administration. Great to have you back chief!

Miencraft, Islands, Narland, The New United States, Rateria

Pevvania wrote:Welcome back Islands!

He is one of our oldest residents, before even Miencraft and myself. If I recall correctly he first resided in Libertatem in 2012 and served in President Snabagag's administration. Great to have you back chief!

Wow, that long ago. I'm amazed he returned

Islands, The New United States, Rateria, Skaveria

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:Who's "that Japanese"?

Didn't there used to be someone named Yamashiro or something?

Skaveria wrote:Who dat boy, who him is?

Stop speaking in black vernacular.

Pevvania wrote:Welcome back Islands!

He is one of our oldest residents, before even Miencraft and myself. If I recall correctly he first resided in Libertatem in 2012 and served in President Snabagag's administration. Great to have you back chief!

Miri Islands wrote:Wow, that long ago. I'm amazed he returned

Maybe this does herald exciting times.

The New United States

Post by Highway Eighty-Eight suppressed by a moderator.

Whatever happened to Lib? Last I remember he had his permanent banishment pardoned for some reason.

Tupolite

Also, just curious, have there been any plans or ideas about establishing a new government?

Tupolite wrote:Didn't there used to be someone named Yamashiro or something?

I think I know who you’re talking about. It’s Shirayuki Mizore, or something like that.

Auxorii wrote:Whatever happened to Lib? Last I remember he had his permanent banishment pardoned for some reason.

If nothing else, his banishment got automatically removed when the previous government was dismantled.

Auxorii wrote:Also, just curious, have there been any plans or ideas about establishing a new government?

There currently is a government led by the Consulate.

The New United States, Rateria

Pevvania wrote:Welcome back Islands!

He is one of our oldest residents, before even Miencraft and myself. If I recall correctly he first resided in Libertatem in 2012 and served in President Snabagag's administration. Great to have you back chief!

Thanks Pevv! And correct, I remember Snabagag and I remember you and Miencraft entering the region. I took seat in the first board of Libertatem back in the day. I don't know if that board is still a thing currently?

Miri Islands wrote:Wow, that long ago. I'm amazed he returned

I recently came back to the game and had a lot of fun with a new nation of mine. So I figured, let's see what they're up too in the good old region of Libertatem. That's the great thing about Nationstates, your old nations keep existing on their servers so you can always return, no matter how long ago.

A lot of unfamiliar names around these days btw, hi to you all!

Pevvania, Narland, The New United States, Rateria, Skaveria

Islands wrote:Thanks Pevv! And correct, I remember Snabagag and I remember you and Miencraft entering the region. I took seat in the first board of Libertatem back in the day. I don't know if that board is still a thing currently?

The Board has been dead for at least five years by now.

Islands, Rateria

Miencraft wrote:The Board has been dead for at least five years by now.

That long? With what was it replaced?

The New United States, Rateria

Miencraft wrote:The Board has been dead for at least five years by now.

That's hard to believe, tbh.

Rateria

I feel like a noob in the presence of so many old guard

Rateria, Tupolite

Since the topic came up again: Lib is in my own personal discord server with my irl friends. Aradites (also known as Casino) is also in there. They’re both doing well.

Rateria

Tupolite wrote:I think I vaguely remember you. Now if only Lib and that Japanese would come back.

You mentioned me?

Auxorii, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Tupolite

Kongeriget Island wrote:You mentioned me?

There you are

Rateria

Miri Islands wrote:Hat is the meaning of this

I would say it is Zombiese for indubitably, but zombies (most renditions anyway) don't have cognizance.

Islands wrote:That long? With what was it replaced?

A few variations on a Senate, and now currently nothing, as the entire government is a three-man show that serves both executive and legislative functions.

There's a history factbook pinned to the WFE that explains a lot of stuff up to about late 2017-ish. I suggest you give it a read and possibly even inspire someone to revive it.

Rateria

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Auxorii wrote:Whatever happened to Lib? Last I remember he had his permanent banishment pardoned for some reason.

Same reason your banishment was lifted. The Second Republic is no more.

Kongeriget Island wrote:You mentioned me?

He has returned! Let us give praise!

I'd like to make a great announcement! With the consent and approval of Pevvania, the National Liberty Party has been named the official successor to the Reaganist Libertarian Party. It's quite an honor to uphold such a legacy!

Pevvania, The New United States, Rateria, Tupolite, Miri Islands

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Islands wrote:Thanks Pevv! And correct, I remember Snabagag and I remember you and Miencraft entering the region. I took seat in the first board of Libertatem back in the day. I don't know if that board is still a thing currently?

I recently came back to the game and had a lot of fun with a new nation of mine. So I figured, let's see what they're up too in the good old region of Libertatem. That's the great thing about Nationstates, your old nations keep existing on their servers so you can always return, no matter how long ago.

A lot of unfamiliar names around these days btw, hi to you all!

Yes, there have been a lot of changes since you left. We have a history factbook in the WFE you can read, or you can ask me questions if you want.

The New United States, Rateria

Skaveria wrote:I'd like to make a great announcement! With the consent and approval of Pevvania, the National Liberty Party has been named the official successor to the Reaganist Libertarian Party. It's quite an honor to uphold such a legacy!

Yes, Skaveria's National Liberty Party is the best modern representation of the RLP's values of liberty, small government and a strong national defense and national fervor that has made our region great. I'm very proud to work with and endorse this party!

The New United States, Rateria, Skaveria, Miri Islands

Kongeriget Island wrote:You mentioned me?

Hey Lib.

The New United States

did somebody ask for the old guard to return?

Pevvania, The New United States, Auxorii, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Republic Of Minerva wrote:did somebody ask for the old guard to return?

hol up, where's yo coat at?

I petition the interim government to change the flag back to the old anti-communist sign: the one on the blue field.

For old times sake, eh?

Islands, Pevvania, Narland, The New United States, Skaveria, Miri Islands

Also, we should have a factbook for our trophy conquests of olden days:

https://web.archive.org/web/20150715225849/http://www.nationstates.net:80/region=congress_of_armed_proletarian_states

https://web.archive.org/web/20160324140016/http://www.nationstates.net:80/region=juche_union

Islands, Narland, The New United States

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I petition the interim government to change the flag back to the old anti-communist sign: the one on the blue field.

For old times sake, eh?

Interim? We're the consulate now

The New United States, Skaveria, Tupolite

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I petition the interim government to change the flag back to the old anti-communist sign: the one on the blue field.

For old times sake, eh?

Por favor

Pevvania, Tupolite

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I petition the interim government to change the flag back to the old anti-communist sign: the one on the blue field.

For old times sake, eh?

I agree

Pevvania, The New United States

If you vote no to that you are a bootlicker.

Rateria, Miri Islands

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:New recommended reading:

The New Atlantis.

While much has been said about Bacon's supposed authorship of works attributed to Shakespeare, or his membership in occult and secret socieities, very little actual evidence, if any, has been provided to support the many outlandish claims. This books however, I believe is important for its interesting take on Science and Government.

(BTW, I do believe some of, but not all, of the "wild" claims.)

Shakespeare probably wrote his own stuff, but I definitely fall into the category of not believing Homer did.

Jadentopian Order wrote:Shakespeare probably wrote his own stuff, but I definitely fall into the category of not believing Homer did.

I am sure the History channel will someday have something about Homer and "ancient alien theorists." :)

Ummm why do we have the 'fascist' tag...

The New United States

Pevvania wrote:Ummm why do we have the 'fascist' tag...

Took care of it

Narland, The New United States, Rateria

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:Wouldn't want to secret to slip out. ;)

Yep, the region is now called Tupolites dictatorship and the only tag is fascist

Narland

What are your opinions on AAVE? (African American Vernacular English) Some people on the extreme left are claiming it's an entirely separate language from English, citing that it has it's own words and consistent grammar structure, which it does. Calling it an entirely new language, however, is way too far. If that were the case then almost every American would be bilingual, because most of us have the ability speak that way, or can at least understand it.

On the other hand the least charitable characterization is that it's just "bad English." I don't like that either, because it DOES have consistent grammar, unlike broken English. The mistakes it makes are the same mistakes consistently. They seem intentional, and if that's the case, then they're not really mistakes at all.

I was leaning towards thinking it's an accent, trying to take a middle-route, but there's the problem, it's not region specific, it's population specific, AND the people that speak in that way ALSO retain a regional accent. AAVE is layered on top of it. So the best examples are southern AAVE and New York AAVE. You can hear the southernisms or the New Yorkisms in their speech, but they way AAVE is effecting it remains the same. So I'm thinking perhaps it's a dialect?

I find stuff like this interesting so maybe any of you interested in language can share your thoughts?

Rateria

Skaveria wrote:What are your opinions on AAVE? (African American Vernacular English) Some people on the extreme left are claiming it's an entirely separate language from English, citing that it has it's own words and consistent grammar structure, which it does. Calling it an entirely new language, however, is way too far. If that were the case then almost every American would be bilingual, because most of us have the ability speak that way, or can at least understand it.

On the other hand the least charitable characterization is that it's just "bad English." I don't like that either, because it DOES have consistent grammar, unlike broken English. The mistakes it makes are the same mistakes consistently. They seem intentional, and if that's the case, then they're not really mistakes at all.

I was leaning towards thinking it's an accent, trying to take a middle-route, but there's the problem, it's not region specific, it's population specific, AND the people that speak in that way ALSO retain a regional accent. AAVE is layered on top of it. So the best examples are southern AAVE and New York AAVE. You can hear the southernisms or the New Yorkisms in their speech, but they way AAVE is effecting it remains the same. So I'm thinking perhaps it's a dialect?

I find stuff like this interesting so maybe any of you interested in language can share your thoughts?

Its a dialect of american english. It would be hard to call it a language as it is very mutually intelligible with other dialects of english. I mean other "dialects" such as scots have way less intelligibility and are still up for debate on whether its a dialect of language.

Miencraft, Pevvania, Rateria, Skaveria, Miri Islands

Skaveria wrote:What are your opinions on AAVE? (African American Vernacular English) Some people on the extreme left are claiming it's an entirely separate language from English, citing that it has it's own words and consistent grammar structure, which it does. Calling it an entirely new language, however, is way too far. If that were the case then almost every American would be bilingual, because most of us have the ability speak that way, or can at least understand it.

On the other hand the least charitable characterization is that it's just "bad English." I don't like that either, because it DOES have consistent grammar, unlike broken English. The mistakes it makes are the same mistakes consistently. They seem intentional, and if that's the case, then they're not really mistakes at all.

I was leaning towards thinking it's an accent, trying to take a middle-route, but there's the problem, it's not region specific, it's population specific, AND the people that speak in that way ALSO retain a regional accent. AAVE is layered on top of it. So the best examples are southern AAVE and New York AAVE. You can hear the southernisms or the New Yorkisms in their speech, but they way AAVE is effecting it remains the same. So I'm thinking perhaps it's a dialect?

I find stuff like this interesting so maybe any of you interested in language can share your thoughts?

Like any vernacular it is the speech and literature of a particular class, time, or place is useful for communication of a certain "in" group. That unlike standardized speech (as apposed to a specific jargon of vernacular needed by profession) it is subject to wide variance, ambiguity, and whimsy. Unlike dialects proper it changes drastically from one environment to another and one generation to the next. The AAVE of the 1960s and 1970s is hardly recognizable today as anything but Blacksploitation speech and considered "offensive" by the Academicians whose predecessors once advocated it. The more humorous aspects of it can be found in genre Hollywood movies of the time period and later.

I expect AAVE of the 2000s and 2010s to be viewed somewhat similarly 30 years from now. It will, like its 1970s counterpart be considered a slang and improvisation ridden form of a substandard English used by a particular subset of the English speaking population -- adequate in its day but hopelessly outmoded for the 2050s. I believe this is a part of the continuing attempt at Hegelian dialectics to divide and conquer anything that isn't following the religion of Marx.

Auxorii

[quote=republic_of_minerva;36846847]I petition the interim government to

For old times sake, eh?[/

[quote=skaveria;36857104]What are your opinions on AAVE? (African American Vernacular English) Some people on the extreme left are claiming it's an entirely separate language from English, citing that it has it's own words and consistent grammar structure, which it does. Calling it an entirely new language, however, is way too far. If that were the case then almost every American would be bilingual, because most of us have the ability speak that way, or can at least understand it.

On the other hand the least charitable characterization is that it's just "bad English." I don't like that either, because it DOES have consistent grammar, unlike broken English. The mistakes it makes are the same mistakes consistently. They seem intentional, and if that's the case, then they're not really mistakes at all.

I was leaning towards thinking it's an accent, trying to take a middle-route, but there's the problem, it's not region specific, it's population specific, AND the people that speak in that way ALSO retain a regional accent. AAVE is layered on top of it. So the best examples are southern AAVE and New York AAVE. You can hear the southernisms or the New Yorkisms in their speech, but they way AAVE is effecting it remains the same. So I'm thinking perhaps it's a dialect?

I find stuff like this interesting so maybe any of you interested in language can share your thoughts?[/quote]

In my experience it seems that a lot of AAVE has a lot of similarities in terms of grammar with other Southern U.S dialects; so I’m inclined to say that it’s a dialect of American English as I don’t think it’s just “broken English”, there are rules to AAVE.

They speak like retards

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