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Yrellian Confederacy wrote:Well, I sent you a message some days ago about the NLP disappearing to become the UMR.

My bad. Will update it in the morning.

Pevvania wrote:What will the structure of this debate be? Can we submit questions to the candidates?

You can telegram me or ask questions yourself

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I thought that the debate would be hold on the 16th of december ?

I have been trying to find an anthem for the nation but it has been hard... I have all the provincial anthems (changed some words for obvious reasons). Thinking about taking a melody like the one for Allahu Akbar and adding new lyrics. What do you think?

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=kanatistan/detail=factbook/id=340912

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:I thought that the debate would be hold on the 16th of december ?

It got moved, so come on guys start asking

Okay, I'll start. To candidates running, what are you looking to accomplish with your presidency of Libertatem?

I'll just ask one question, because it's already 1:30 AM in my country and I need to sleep.

What is the real difference between those both candidates ?

Kanatistan wrote:I have been trying to find an anthem for the nation but it has been hard... I have all the provincial anthems (changed some words for obvious reasons). Thinking about taking a melody like the one for Allahu Akbar and adding new lyrics. What do you think?

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=kanatistan/detail=factbook/id=340912

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv5jLsLoYcE

You can just take this wonderful anthem and replace "Kazakstan" with "Kanatistan" :D

I believe they use the same melody as the Kazakh Province of my nation.

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv5jLsLoYcE

You can just take this wonderful anthem and replace "Kazakstan" with "Kanatistan" :D

Ok my link doesn't work, fine...

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Okay, I'll start. To candidates running, what are you looking to accomplish with your presidency of Libertatem?

I am looking not to use the clout of the position to accomplish something with the Presidency for my own benefit - instead, my primary goal is to use the powers entrusted to me to help Libertatem's Board members, Managers, other government officials, and citizens accomplish feats. I aim to promote activity and public involvement within our legislature, delegate privileges and responsibilities to my Cabinet so that they can continue to gain experience, and demand transparency within our government so that credit is always given to whom credit is due. I understand that many nations here are already doing great things to boost this region's population, activity, and reputation abroad - what I want to do is help them continue to do so, while also doing all I can to do the same as they.

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:What is the real difference between those both candidates ?

*deadpan* I'm fabulous.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Okay, I'll start. To candidates running, what are you looking to accomplish with your presidency of Libertatem?

Basically, you see what's happening around here now?

I want to make sure that stays happening.

I don't really have other specific plans since the Managers generally go off and do whatever they want, and really the Presidency doesn't have much to it on its own.

Rofl at Pevv's new national title or whatever.

Actum wrote:Rofl at Pevv's new national title or whatever.

The Eternal Leader is eternal, even when he's not currently the President. :P

Which one of you is going to make Humpheria Day a thing?

To candidates, what makes you the best choice for the voters?

Right-Winged Nation wrote:To candidates, what makes you the best choice for the voters?

Essentially:

Humpheria wrote:Which one of you is going to make Humpheria Day a thing?

Humpheria wrote:Which one of you is going to make Humpheria Day a thing?

I'll run it by the Board in January.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:To candidates, what makes you the best choice for the voters?

I'm not the incumbent - indeed, I haven't been President yet - yet just as many people here have heard of me, and my track record is just as (if not more) impressive. Do the math.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:I'll run it by the Board in January.

I'm not the incumbent - indeed, I haven't been President yet - yet just as many people here have heard of me, and my track record is just as (if not more) impressive. Do the math.

Do you think you can do a better job than the current president?

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Do you think you can do a better job than the current president?

Actually, I'll probably do just about as good a job - both of us take a rather laissez-faire approach to leadership; however, my point is more that he'd be better in a different job.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:I'll run it by the Board in January.

I'm not the incumbent - indeed, I haven't been President yet - yet just as many people here have heard of me, and my track record is just as (if not more) impressive. Do the math.

That's a boring, indecisive answer. Immediately referring all questions to the Board before you even get elected. Great.

A little ego-rubbing, eh? We'll make a politician out of you yet.

Humpheria wrote:That's a boring, indecisive answer. Immediately referring all questions to the Board before you even get elected. Great.

My mistake, sir - in my station as an ordinary Libertatem citizen, I hereby declare tomorrow Humpheria Day. Congratulations, it is now a thing.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:My mistake, sir - in my station as an ordinary Libertatem citizen, I hereby declare tomorrow Humpheria Day. Congratulations, it is now a thing.

Nope, sorry that can't be allowed

So I don't get it, CI can't just say that Muh is no longer running, so is are they both still running?

Muh has been inactive. I sent him a citizenship application days ago.

Humpheria wrote:So I don't get it, CI can't just say that Muh is no longer running, so is are they both still running?

We assume he is, but since elections are tomorrow we are trying to get things going

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:My mistake, sir - in my station as an ordinary Libertatem citizen, I hereby declare tomorrow Humpheria Day. Congratulations, it is now a thing.

The answer not the action.

If elected, you would defer the issue to the Board, like a good solid leader, right?

Humpheria wrote:The answer not the action.

If elected, you would defer the issue to the Board, like a good solid leader, right?

Well, yeah. I can't just wave a wand - the Board voted on Pevvania Day, did they not?

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Nope, sorry that can't be allowed

It has occurred to me that I am not good at this *smashes own face against podium*

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Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Well, yeah. I can't just wave a wand - the Board voted on Pevvania Day, did they not?

It has occurred to me that I am not good at this *smashes own face against podium*

You are learning the horrors of politics

Kanatistan wrote:What is your approach towards the war on communism?

It's the war on authoritarianism.

Mien, what will you do to continue to ensure Libertatem's success?

Kanatistan wrote:What is your approach towards the war on communism?

Not the first time I've been asked this, actually.

Needless to say, I support it only so long as it is a war on totalitarian communism. In fact, on totalitarianism in general. And I hope that one day it can finally be won - we'll know when that day has come when our allies, our acquaintances, and all non-combatants throughout NationStates are no longer harassed by ideological purists.

Shermaniya wrote:It's the war on authoritarianism.

Not under this administration.

The Mien Administration still officially recognizes the War on Communism.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Actually, I'll probably do just about as good a job - both of us take a rather laissez-faire approach to leadership; however, my point is more that he'd be better in a different job.

I'd like to point out to my opponent here that I've already held every job in the region, and there's a good reason I'm here today.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Mien, what will you do to continue to ensure Libertatem's success?

I plan to work with the Managers to continue to push what we currently have going on now; The recent boost in population is a great testament to our new strength, and now it's time that we also beef ourselves up abroad. You guys are doing just fine down here.

Kanatistan wrote:What is your approach towards the war on communism?

We should just keep doing what we're doing.

Also, just so I get everything straight:

Tomorrow, the poll will be:

Miencraft (RLP) & Humpheria (I)

Muh Roads (ACOP) & CI (ACOP)

CI (...) & Roads (...)

Miencraft wrote:Not under this administration.

The Mien Administration still officially recognizes the War on Communism.

Then why aren't you attacking me and Kanatistan?

Miencraft wrote:Not under this administration.

We should just keep doing what we're doing.

*Cough* George Bush Answer *Cough*

Just joking.

Shermaniya wrote:Then why aren't you attacking me and Kanatistan?

Go chuck "Libertatem" into Google Translate for me and tell me what comes out.

Actum wrote:*Cough* George Bush Answer *Cough*

Just joking.

Read my lips.

Miencraft wrote:Read my lips.

lol

Sorry to interrupt, where do I apply for citizenship?

Miencraft wrote:Not under this administration.

The Mien Administration still officially recognizes the War on Communism.

My administration will recognize both. Boom.

Miencraft wrote:I'd like to point out to my opponent here that I've already held every job in the region, and there's a good reason I'm here today.

*counts on fingers* So have I, save the position of President.

Miencraft wrote:Also, just so I get everything straight:

Tomorrow, the poll will be:

Miencraft (RLP) & Humpheria (I)

Muh Roads (ACOP) & CI (ACOP)

CI (...) & Roads (...)

I'm running for ACOP. I would like to announce that I have chosen Northern Prussia as my running mate - figured I'd prefer my Vice President not to be a yes man, after all.

Titanshen wrote:Sorry to interrupt, where do I apply for citizenship?

Hey, Titan. Good to see you.

By the time you're eligible for Citizenship, we'll have an active Manager of Internal Affairs you can report to.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Hey, Titan. Good to see you.

By the time you're eligible for Citizenship, we'll have an active Manager of Internal Affairs you can report to.

Ok, thanks. I'm reading up on some of your laws.

I submitted my citizenship application like a week ago.

Mien, I'm running for VP under the RLP.

What's that Ci publicly making jokes about his Presidential nominee as inactive and unfit for his current position. Absolutely no disrespect or divide there. At all.

Humpheria wrote:Mien, I'm running for VP under the RLP.

What's that Ci publicly making jokes about his Presidential nominee as inactive and unfit for his current position. Absolutely no disrespect or divide there. At all.

I think he should post this very minute and tell you how right you are.

...Any minute, Muh.

Joe Biden was the butt of plenty of jokes.

Humpheria wrote:Mien, I'm running for VP under the RLP.

Noted.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:I'm running for ACOP. I would like to announce that I have chosen Northern Prussia as my running mate - figured I'd prefer my Vice President not to be a yes man, after all.

Noted. Just didn't feel the need to mention your party twice.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:I think he should post this very minute and tell you how right you are.

...Any minute, Muh.

And to think that I recommended that he select you as the VP nominee. You're gonna be a really great politician one day, kid. Nice at the betrayal and disrespect stuff. Yeah, you'll be great at it once you have a chance at winning by not running against two very good, qualified, upstanding proven leaders of the region. But hey, you're time will come.

Northern Prussia is in favor of Imperialism correct?

Humpheria wrote:And to think that I recommended that he select you as the VP nominee. You're gonna be a really great politician one day, kid. Nice at the betrayal and disrespect stuff. Yeah, you'll be great at it once you have a chance at winning by not running against two very good, qualified, upstanding proven leaders of the region. But hey, you're time will come.

Thank you. Any other personal attacks you'd like to make before elections start?

Humpheria wrote:And to think that I recommended that he select you as the VP nominee. You're gonna be a really great politician one day, kid. Nice at the betrayal and disrespect stuff. Yeah, you'll be great at it once you have a chance at winning by not running against two very good, qualified, upstanding proven leaders of the region. But hey, you're time will come.

your*

Actum wrote:Northern Prussia is in favor of Imperialism correct?

I believe so, in one form or another.

Aaand I'm getting off for the night.

Remember, a vote for me is a vote for Libertatem. (Probably.)

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Thank you. Any other personal attacks you'd like to make before elections start?

No, I think that about sums it up. Oh there is one thing, not really an attack as much as it is a suggestion, if you can't handle politics, don't run for President.

Miencraft wrote:Go chuck "Libertatem" into Google Translate for me and tell me what comes out.

Liberty (http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/bcaplan/museum/marframe.htm)

Shermaniya wrote:Liberty

There you go then.

Miencraft wrote:There you go then.

Bit irrelevant if you ask me.

Shermaniya wrote:Bit irrelevant if you ask me.

Not at all.

Liberty- the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behavior, or political views.

Actum wrote:Not at all.

Liberty- the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behavior, or political views.

Sounds like communism to me. Are you being ignorant and referring to state socialism?

Shermaniya wrote:Sounds like communism to me. Are you being ignorant and referring to state socialism?

You misunderstand. You are allowed to live within our society even though we disagree with you because our belief is liberty. We are not going to impose restrictions on your political views. As I recall, the original question was why you were allowed to live here with your communist beliefs.

Because if he wasn't. I would have some new political campaign.

I thought Sherm was a social democrat?

Actum wrote:You misunderstand.

Not in the slightest.

Actum wrote:We are not going to impose restrictions on your political views.

*our

Actum wrote:As I recall, the original question was why you were allowed to live here with your communist beliefs.

When did I say I was a communist?

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I thought Sherm was a social democrat?

This

Shermaniya wrote:

When did I say I was a communist?

Shermaniya wrote:Then why aren't you attacking me and Kanatistan?

Shermaniya wrote:Not in the slightest.

Shermaniya wrote:Bit irrelevant if you ask me.

Sounds like a bit of a misunderstanding going on there.

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Kanatistan wrote:... Am I not an Amarcho-Communist (By choice)/Anarchist/Religious Anarchist?

Your a Religious Anarcho-Communist?

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Kanatistan wrote:I am a Muslim Anarchist that wishes people would work together.

I wish people would work together too...sadly that ain't happening soon.

Anarchist? Hahaha

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Vote Mienhumph because we're not inactive or CI!

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Would an Anarchic system be voluntary in any form?

Unless Anarchist societies are formed around certain ideologies based on people in the society then there will always be the fact Anachy is forced unto people thay dont want it. Anarcho-Capitalism is not voluntary as not everyone wants it anf if they attempted to form communities could be put down by the major population

Now if people had a big Government that offered no laws except protection to keep groups from oppressing others.

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Kanatistan wrote:I think I am suffering from depression.

Why do you say that?

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Kanatistan wrote:I remember you saying that... I remember everything that happens in my life, I hate it, I hate it, I hate it. I remember typing this, I don't want to do this.

...What?

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Kanatistan wrote:I can't do this. Sorry for bothering you guys. Every time I try to escape it, when I think it is gone, it is around the corner a second later... I have to take it but I don't want to deal with it.

I think I am going to talk with my doctor about it as soon as I can.

Watch King of the Hill or Beavis and Butthead it works for me.

Im not even kidding.

Kanatistan wrote:I can't do this. Sorry for bothering you guys. Every time I try to escape it, when I think it is gone, it is around the corner a second later... I have to take it but I don't want to deal with it.

I think I am going to talk with my doctor about it as soon as I can.

Talk to your Imam also. We don't want to loose you Kanatistan.

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Kanatistan wrote:I can't do this. Sorry for bothering you guys. Every time I try to escape it, when I think it is gone, it is around the corner a second later... I have to take it but I don't want to deal with it.

I think I am going to talk with my doctor about it as soon as I can.

Don't feel sorry - I know what it's like, having dealt with it for the past seven years, and I want to help. If you ever need anyone to talk to, TG me - and it's good that you're seeking treatment, because that's more than I ever attempted to do.

Humpheria wrote:Vote Mienhumph because we're not inactive or CI!

Either you're really gung-ho about this politics thing, or you don't like me for some reason. Or both. Did I do something to offend you?

Saw this on the WFE of Tel Aviv, an anti-Zionist region: "A country that occupies the land of another people for more than 40 years and denies them the most elementary civic and human rights cannot be a democracy."

Wrong. This fits perfectly into the definition of democracy: majority oppression of the minority. If 51 people in a room vote to kill the other 49, that's democracy! Majority ethnic groups enslaving smaller races? Democracy! Two men assaulting a woman? Democracy!

Kanatistan wrote:It is scaring the crap out of me. The only reason I am still doing what I am doing is because it would negatively effect everyone I know. I have come up with plans to leave, stopped myself because it would harm others. I don't want to do this anymore.

I can't really say much in the way of advice, but stay strong and avoid getting hooked on meds. Buddha's coin would be useful in this situation: "This shall pass./This too shall pass."

Pevvania wrote:Saw this on the WFE of Tel Aviv, an anti-Zionist region: "A country that occupies the land of another people for more than 40 years and denies them the most elementary civic and human rights cannot be a democracy."

Wrong. This fits perfectly into the definition of democracy: majority oppression of the minority. If 51 people in a room vote to kill the other 49, that's democracy! Majority ethnic groups enslaving smaller races? Democracy! Two men assaulting a woman? Democracy!

I'm starting to think you don't like democracy - at least, in its pure form :P

Pevvania wrote:I can't really say much in the way of advice, but stay strong and avoid getting hooked on meds. Buddha's coin would be useful in this situation: "This shall pass./This too shall pass."

Yeah, I can attest to that. Since I've never been treated, I've never been medicated either, but I thought for some time that I needed to be - years later, I realized that was actually a good thing, because I had quite a few friends who simply couldn't stand the way they felt taking it. (Some experienced night terrors, some seemed gloomier than usual, and some said they felt "like a zombie" under the effects of medication.) Therapy is probably your best bet.

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The State Of Deseret wrote:Would an Anarchic system be voluntary in any form?

Unless Anarchist societies are formed around certain ideologies based on people in the society then there will always be the fact Anachy is forced unto people thay dont want it. Anarcho-Capitalism is not voluntary as not everyone wants it anf if they attempted to form communities could be put down by the major population

Now if people had a big Government that offered no laws except protection to keep groups from oppressing others.

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