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The American Empire In Libertatem wrote:Even if the Communists started it, raiding regions is not the answer. We are just consolidating them,making them stronger and more united. If we want to defend democratic capitalist regions, then let's only use our military to defend our capitalist allies while keeping the commies in their smaller regions.

That's poor strategy. The best defense is a good offence, which is demonstrated by the fact that there are far fewer leftist regions involved in military operations now than there were when Libertatem was founded.

The American Empire In Libertatem wrote: If we want to defend democratic capitalist regions, then let's only use our military to defend our capitalist allies while keeping the commies in their smaller regions.

I suppose preemptive war isn't on your list of Facebook interests? :P

Communists tend to to destroy each other through civil strife. Seeing each other as the enemy as we have seen in UCR. The leninists,stalinists,maoists,troskyists,and anarchists all end up destroying each other over which rules a region. My theory is that our war is only uniting them,and turning their focus to fighting us instead of each other.

Kings Island

Pevvania wrote:That's poor strategy. The best defense is a good offence, which is demonstrated by the fact that there are far fewer leftist regions involved in military operations now than there were when Libertatem was founded.

Yes, we have reduced the quantity of regions but as a result we have probably increased the amount of Citizens in other regions which improves the quality of those regions.

*creates a nation that is named Debating Emissary*

*does not debate at all*

*Pev is a bad military leader*

Miencraft, Kings Island, Pevvania, The New United States, Hallo Island, The American Empire In Libertatem, Reaganomic Nws

The socialists self destruct easily. I prefer the Churchill strategy of letting both the fascists and socialists destroy each other and then mopping up the remnants.

The American Empire In Libertatem

Pevvania wrote:Even to this day, we only target regions that direct or sponsor wars against other regions.

That's not true at all, though. You sure do have a penchant for lying!!!

Remember [region=Communist China] and [region=The International Communist Union]? Two regions that were never involved in the Left/REATO fight that you tried (and failed) to attack. [region=International Socialists] was a region that you attacked simply for being included in TRF's historical allies - they were never involved in the Left/REATO fight. CAPS never engaged in any military operations, and no military operations were ever approved by its delegates, but that didn't stop you, either.

The Misleyan Diplomatic Mission wrote:That's not true at all, though. You sure do have a penchant for lying!!!

Remember [region=Communist China] and [region=The International Communist Union]? Two regions that were never involved in the Left/REATO fight that you tried (and failed) to attack. [region=International Socialists] was a region that you attacked simply for being included in TRF's historical allies - they were never involved in the Left/REATO fight. CAPS never engaged in any military operations, and no military operations were ever approved by its delegates, but that didn't stop you, either.

CAPS; Congress of armed proletarian states.

Kings Island wrote:CAPS; Congress of armed proletarian states.

YOU CAUGHT US!

REAGAN Treaty Organization doesn't mean you actually literally parade the rotting carcass of a terrible president around.

The actual military leaders of the Left were against CAPS being a military alliance, as you would remember if you had read anything other than cherry-picking (a favorite pastime here) a couple of RMB posts and one word in the organization's name.

The Misleyan Diplomatic Mission wrote:That's not true at all, though. You sure do have a penchant for lying!!!

Pot, meet kettle.

The Misleyan Diplomatic Mission wrote:Remember [region=Communist China] and [region=The International Communist Union]? Two regions that were never involved in the Left/REATO fight that you tried (and failed) to attack.

Communist China was run by that 'Comrade Mark' guy, a Kim Jong-un apologist who was a member of North Korea and participated in many military activities with them. CC had blood on its hands. TICU actively supported and encouraged your endless wars and terrorist attacks.

And for the record, I was not the Military Manager when those raids were organised or executed, nor did I participate in them.

The Misleyan Diplomatic Mission wrote:[region=International Socialists] was a region that you attacked simply for being included in TRF's historical allies - they were never involved in the Left/REATO fight.

Doesn't matter. IS was still a part of The Red Fleet, a terrorist organisation dedicated to the destruction of liberty-supporting regions, so it was a target.

The Misleyan Diplomatic Mission wrote:CAPS never engaged in any military operations, and no military operations were ever approved by its delegates, but that didn't stop you, either.

CAPS was a threat to Libertatem. Its RMB history shows frequent diatribes and threats against REATO by its members. Even added to this, it was clear that a gathering of far-left regions that all, or most, supported the destruction of REATO was a dangerous prospect.

I don't know how you can say any of this, however, considering your tendency to assault and harass innocent, inactive and non-combative regions.

The Misleyan Diplomatic Mission wrote:REAGAN Treaty Organization doesn't mean you actually literally parade the rotting carcass of a terrible president around.

In your mind, who was a 'good' President?

Plus we later realized we had a snitch, as those failed invasions were meant to be subtle and not precise.

On a different subject, on behalf of the Roads Administration, I've begun drafting the Free Movement Treaty.* 'FRAUD II', which I authored, contains provisions in Section IX that allows the region to negotiate "shared citizenship treaties". The purpose of this treaty is to open the borders between Libertatem and several allied and like-minded regions so that a citizen of one region is a citizen of all. Under the FMT, a citizen of the FFS, if they signed the treaty, could move to Libertatem to start a new career, or a former Libertatem Board Member could retire to a life in The Hyatt Islands. The barriers and the walls that divide the like-minded regions of the game would be broken down, but each region party to the treaty would retain full power to ban or turn away security threats, saboteurs and criminals.

Just as with the negotiation of the IDA Treaty, [nation=short]Aidanton[/nation] is allowing the negotiation of this treaty to take place in Cashnatchee. If an when an agreement is reached, the final document will need to be confirmed by a 4/5ths majority vote in the Board to become effective.

Do the people of Libertatem support this idea?

*Other potential names could include Interregional Migration Treaty, Open Borders Treaty or Freedom of Movement Treaty.

The Free Movement Treaty (work in progress): http://www.nationstates.net/nation=pevvania/detail=factbook/id=447621

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Republic Of Minerva wrote:Plus we later realized we had a snitch, as those failed invasions were meant to be subtle and not precise.

Come on, now. Those invasions were absolutely meant to be precise - you just don't know how to pull that off.

Pevvania wrote:In your mind, who was a 'good' President?

Your question implies that there was one.

Pevvania wrote:Communist China was run by that 'Comrade Mark' guy, a Kim Jong-un apologist who was a member of North Korea and participated in many military activities with them. CC had blood on its hands. TICU actively supported and encouraged your endless wars and terrorist attacks.

TICU actually doesn't actively support our wars, as their WAs remain in TICU. Which you would know if you had a cursory understanding of the Left and not a knee-jerk "Yellow flags good, red flags baaaad!" approach.

Pevvania wrote:Doesn't matter. IS was still a part of The Red Fleet, a terrorist organisation dedicated to the destruction of liberty-supporting regions, so it was a target.

That's not how The Red Fleet works, but whatever makes you feel better about yourself.

Pevvania wrote:CAPS was a threat to Libertatem. Its RMB history shows frequent diatribes and threats against REATO by its members. Even added to this, it was clear that a gathering of far-left regions that all, or most, supported the destruction of REATO was a dangerous prospect.

"Frequent diatribes and threats"? Hardly. One delegate was actively proposing attacks on REATO, and the active military leaders were against that.

Pevvania wrote:I don't know how you can say any of this, however, considering your tendency to assault and harass innocent, inactive and non-combative regions.

Likewise.

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:*Pev is a bad military leader*

Hey!

I didn't say that!

The Misleyan Diplomatic Mission wrote:Come on, now. Those invasions were absolutely meant to be precise - you just don't know how to pull that off.

Lulz. This coming from the guy who launched an attack on The Hyatt Islands too late then blamed the resulting humiliation on a glitch. Okay m8.

The Misleyan Diplomatic Mission wrote:TICU actually doesn't actively support our wars, as their WAs remain in TICU. Which you would know if you had a cursory understanding of the Left and not a knee-jerk "Yellow flags good, red flags baaaad!" approach.

TICU may not lend troops to your operations, but they clearly support what you're doing, and if they were in a stronger position they'd certainly help you in your crusade.

The Misleyan Diplomatic Mission wrote:That's not how The Red Fleet works, but whatever makes you feel better about yourself.

Your hypocrisy still manages to surprise me. You frequently target REATO members and regions that have embassies with Libertatem on a 'guilt by association' basis, but call International Socialists innocent, despite their membership in The Red Fleet? Please stop wasting my time. If you have something relevant to say then say it. Coming here and talking BS on our RMB accomplishes nothing.

Pevvania wrote:On a different subject, on behalf of the Roads Administration, I've begun drafting the Free Movement Treaty.* 'FRAUD II', which I authored, contains provisions in Section IX that allows the region to negotiate "shared citizenship treaties". The purpose of this treaty is to open the borders between Libertatem and several allied and like-minded regions so that a citizen of one region is a citizen of all. Under the FMT, a citizen of the FFS, if they signed the treaty, could move to Libertatem to start a new career, or a former Libertatem Board Member could retire to a life in The Hyatt Islands. The barriers and the walls that divide the like-minded regions of the game would be broken down, but each region party to the treaty would retain full power to ban or turn away security threats, saboteurs and criminals.

Just as with the negotiation of the IDA Treaty, [nation=short]Aidanton[/nation] is allowing the negotiation of this treaty to take place in Cashnatchee. If an when an agreement is reached, the final document will need to be confirmed by a 4/5ths majority vote in the Board to become effective.

Do the people of Libertatem support this idea?

*Other potential names could include Interregional Migration Treaty, Open Borders Treaty or Freedom of Movement Treaty.

The Free Movement Treaty (work in progress): http://www.nationstates.net/nation=pevvania/detail=factbook/id=447621

As he whom is probably going to end up processing citizenship forever, I like this idea.

Midland County

The American Empire In Libertatem wrote:Communists tend to to destroy each other through civil strife. Seeing each other as the enemy as we have seen in UCR. The leninists,stalinists,maoists,troskyists,and anarchists all end up destroying each other over which rules a region. My theory is that our war is only uniting them,and turning their focus to fighting us instead of each other.

Indeed, there is nothing that unites people like a common enemy.

TICU wasn't meant to be precise, as it had a password and I thought the defenders weren't working with the Red Fleet. But now we know that the Red Fleet is in cohoots with the fendies, which is telling that you won't fight your own wars.

False. CC was a stealth raid that was activated by our sleepers. It doesn't matter now, but it was also through CC that we got the original password to CAPS.

Pevvania wrote:On a different subject, on behalf of the Roads Administration, I've begun drafting the Free Movement Treaty.* 'FRAUD II', which I authored, contains provisions in Section IX that allows the region to negotiate "shared citizenship treaties". The purpose of this treaty is to open the borders between Libertatem and several allied and like-minded regions so that a citizen of one region is a citizen of all. Under the FMT, a citizen of the FFS, if they signed the treaty, could move to Libertatem to start a new career, or a former Libertatem Board Member could retire to a life in The Hyatt Islands. The barriers and the walls that divide the like-minded regions of the game would be broken down, but each region party to the treaty would retain full power to ban or turn away security threats, saboteurs and criminals.

Just as with the negotiation of the IDA Treaty, [nation=short]Aidanton[/nation] is allowing the negotiation of this treaty to take place in Cashnatchee. If an when an agreement is reached, the final document will need to be confirmed by a 4/5ths majority vote in the Board to become effective.

Do the people of Libertatem support this idea?

*Other potential names could include Interregional Migration Treaty, Open Borders Treaty or Freedom of Movement Treaty.

The Free Movement Treaty (work in progress): http://www.nationstates.net/nation=pevvania/detail=factbook/id=447621

In interesting idea. I'm all for it.

Pevvania wrote:On a different subject, on behalf of the Roads Administration, I've begun drafting the Free Movement Treaty.* 'FRAUD II', which I authored, contains provisions in Section IX that allows the region to negotiate "shared citizenship treaties". The purpose of this treaty is to open the borders between Libertatem and several allied and like-minded regions so that a citizen of one region is a citizen of all. Under the FMT, a citizen of the FFS, if they signed the treaty, could move to Libertatem to start a new career, or a former Libertatem Board Member could retire to a life in The Hyatt Islands. The barriers and the walls that divide the like-minded regions of the game would be broken down, but each region party to the treaty would retain full power to ban or turn away security threats, saboteurs and criminals.

Just as with the negotiation of the IDA Treaty, [nation=short]Aidanton[/nation] is allowing the negotiation of this treaty to take place in Cashnatchee. If an when an agreement is reached, the final document will need to be confirmed by a 4/5ths majority vote in the Board to become effective.

Do the people of Libertatem support this idea?

*Other potential names could include Interregional Migration Treaty, Open Borders Treaty or Freedom of Movement Treaty.

The Free Movement Treaty (work in progress): http://www.nationstates.net/nation=pevvania/detail=factbook/id=447621

This has my full support. I've been taking steps to make my region's citizenship roster compatible with yours in the event a treaty were ever to be created... and I was about to write one myself before I noticed you were already hard at work on it.

The American Empire In Libertatem wrote:What happens when the Imperialist Army of REATO conquers a region? All the puppets/region sitters may end up cteing but any active communist will either form a new region or join a larger communist region. What harm can a communist do in an online game? How would a communist oppress you? You are free to leave any region you wish and participate in any ideology you wish. The people in communist regions are only following their ideology,their opinion,and free will. We don't like it when the fascists or communists attack a capitalistic region yet we choose to play the same game of raiding and forcing each other to consolidate. There is no last battle on nationstates. A war on Communism will never end. So why don't we instead learn,debate,and understand one another?

A war on Communism in the real world may result in the fall of Communism,but in NationStates it is and waste of time. The only way we would have ended the Soviet occupation of Estonia would have been the execution of operation unthinkable. Ending the soviets before they got nuclear weapons. The allies did not have enough troops in Europe and it would have taken time for American reinforcements to arrive. In the meantime the soviets would have crushed the tired and outnumbered allied forces and would have captured most of Europe. I do sympathize with you on Estonia as Lithuania is one of the countries of my ancestors but there is nothing we could do about it.

I may be dreadfully wrong, but I understand NS as a platform where people of various ideologies share their views and fight over them. If we know that our chances of converting the 12-year-old internet commies are slim, why not at least show them how incompetent they are by invading their regions? This is a game and raiding is a fundamental component of it so why not use it to annoy and weaken those who we disagree with? Plus, they want to destroy us, anyway, so it's not like we're the mean bullies picking on kids who want to be left alone jerking over the Kapital. War on NS is also pretty fun and I'm sure both sides enjoy it. We're not actually hunting down red guerrillas although that would arguably be more fun.

Landosenrego

Pevvania wrote:On a different subject, on behalf of the Roads Administration, I've begun drafting the Free Movement Treaty.* 'FRAUD II', which I authored, contains provisions in Section IX that allows the region to negotiate "shared citizenship treaties". The purpose of this treaty is to open the borders between Libertatem and several allied and like-minded regions so that a citizen of one region is a citizen of all. Under the FMT, a citizen of the FFS, if they signed the treaty, could move to Libertatem to start a new career, or a former Libertatem Board Member could retire to a life in The Hyatt Islands. The barriers and the walls that divide the like-minded regions of the game would be broken down, but each region party to the treaty would retain full power to ban or turn away security threats, saboteurs and criminals.

Just as with the negotiation of the IDA Treaty, [nation=short]Aidanton[/nation] is allowing the negotiation of this treaty to take place in Cashnatchee. If an when an agreement is reached, the final document will need to be confirmed by a 4/5ths majority vote in the Board to become effective.

Do the people of Libertatem support this idea?

*Other potential names could include Interregional Migration Treaty, Open Borders Treaty or Freedom of Movement Treaty.

The Free Movement Treaty (work in progress): http://www.nationstates.net/nation=pevvania/detail=factbook/id=447621

Sounds like an excellent proposal. Tear down the barriers between regions! Free the market, free the people!

Pevvania wrote:On a different subject, on behalf of the Roads Administration, I've begun drafting the Free Movement Treaty.* 'FRAUD II', which I authored, contains provisions in Section IX that allows the region to negotiate "shared citizenship treaties". The purpose of this treaty is to open the borders between Libertatem and several allied and like-minded regions so that a citizen of one region is a citizen of all. Under the FMT, a citizen of the FFS, if they signed the treaty, could move to Libertatem to start a new career, or a former Libertatem Board Member could retire to a life in The Hyatt Islands. The barriers and the walls that divide the like-minded regions of the game would be broken down, but each region party to the treaty would retain full power to ban or turn away security threats, saboteurs and criminals.

Just as with the negotiation of the IDA Treaty, [nation=short]Aidanton[/nation] is allowing the negotiation of this treaty to take place in Cashnatchee. If an when an agreement is reached, the final document will need to be confirmed by a 4/5ths majority vote in the Board to become effective.

Do the people of Libertatem support this idea?

*Other potential names could include Interregional Migration Treaty, Open Borders Treaty or Freedom of Movement Treaty.

The Free Movement Treaty (work in progress): http://www.nationstates.net/nation=pevvania/detail=factbook/id=447621

Absolutely, let the market reign without borders!

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Conservative Idealism Diplomacy wrote:Listen, we must end the war on communism now! This useless war is seriously threatening us and our allies. We cannot ensure the security of all of our allies. While we are defending one region, they are attacking the next one. This is senseless. I don't want to break up REATO, but we won't participate in the war on communism any longer. Sorry.

Are you speaking on behalf of the IRU?

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Conservative Idealism Diplomacy wrote:I am speaking on my behalf, but i think that would be the best way for the IRU to follow.

Than on what authority are you claiming the War to be over? Who is "we"?

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Conservative Idealism Diplomacy wrote:I am not claiming the war to be over. I will do my possible, as the founder of the IRU, to make my region stay out of this in the future.

"but we won't participate in the war on communism any longer."

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Conservative Idealism Diplomacy wrote:Why so aggressive with your allies?

Not aggressive, aggression would look much worse. I'm questioning why you would post something so resolute that says "The war is over" not "My goal is for the war to be over".

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Conservative Idealism Diplomacy wrote:For me, the war is over.

Then don't participate.

Kings Island

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Ĉu iu ajn parolas Esperanto ĉi tie?

Kings Island

Favorite "eating out" food?

Mine is chinese.

Reaganomic Nws

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:Favorite "eating out" food?

Mine is chinese.

Mine's Vietnamese, Chinese, and Italian.

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:Favorite "eating out" food?

Mine is chinese.

Laotian, French, and Seafood.

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:Favorite "eating out" food?

Mine is chinese.

Don't really have one, honestly.

If I had to choose one, I'd say... yeah, Chinese as well.

The Aradites wrote:Ĉu iu ajn parolas Esperanto ĉi tie?

No, sadly.

Mais, je parle Français et Anglais.

The Aradites

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:Favorite "eating out" food?

Mine is chinese.

Mexican, closely followed by Arab.

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:Favorite "eating out" food?

Mine is chinese.

American, Italian, Mexican, Chinese, in that order.

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:Favorite "eating out" food?

Mine is chinese.

I live relatively close to a great Chinese place, run by real Chinese people.

Like, they're actually Chinese people making Chinese food. It's what you expect a place like that to be!

Also, Italian food is always great.

Pevvania

I love American, like everything American, love Chinese. I can stand Italian but really nothing else.

Miencraft wrote:I live relatively close to a great Chinese place, run by real Chinese people.

Like, they're actually Chinese people making Chinese food. It's what you expect a place like that to be!

Also, Italian food is always great.

Nearly every Chinese place I've been to, in the US and elsewhere, is run by real Chinese people. To be honest, most ethnic restaurants I've been to are run by corresponding nationalities.

Miencraft

Hey, bozo - before you impersonate me, at least check to make sure I'm not in the region first.

Sheesh, if you're going to engage in subterfuge against my allies, at least do it right.

Miencraft, Tyrinth, Muh Roads, Hallo Island

Pevvania wrote:On a different subject, on behalf of the Roads Administration, I've begun drafting the Free Movement Treaty.* 'FRAUD II', which I authored, contains provisions in Section IX that allows the region to negotiate "shared citizenship treaties". The purpose of this treaty is to open the borders between Libertatem and several allied and like-minded regions so that a citizen of one region is a citizen of all. Under the FMT, a citizen of the FFS, if they signed the treaty, could move to Libertatem to start a new career, or a former Libertatem Board Member could retire to a life in The Hyatt Islands. The barriers and the walls that divide the like-minded regions of the game would be broken down, but each region party to the treaty would retain full power to ban or turn away security threats, saboteurs and criminals.

Just as with the negotiation of the IDA Treaty, [nation=short]Aidanton[/nation] is allowing the negotiation of this treaty to take place in Cashnatchee. If an when an agreement is reached, the final document will need to be confirmed by a 4/5ths majority vote in the Board to become effective.

Do the people of Libertatem support this idea?

*Other potential names could include Interregional Migration Treaty, Open Borders Treaty or Freedom of Movement Treaty.

The Free Movement Treaty (work in progress): http://www.nationstates.net/nation=pevvania/detail=factbook/id=447621

I highly support this, let's just make sure signatories take steps similar to FRAUD to define citizenship.

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:Favorite "eating out" food?

Mine is chinese.

Humpy bear <3

I love simulated communist food too.

Pangaean Debating Emissary wrote:Like the one about changing your flag I sent, or at least making it make sense?

If it's so wrong, why does it bother you so? IS VALUE OF LABOR PROPERTY???

Kings Island, Pevvania

Pevvania wrote:Nearly every Chinese place I've been to, in the US and elsewhere, is run by real Chinese people. To be honest, most ethnic restaurants I've been to are run by corresponding nationalities.

The Chinese places around here hire people of all backgrounds... Michigan not so much from what I've seen.

Not that I'm complaining, there's a few Chinese restaurants in Detroit with a "Chinese" menu. I can't read it, but I point at something randomly and what I get is always delicious.

Pevvania

Muh Roads wrote:Humpy bear <3

I love simulated communist food too.

I'm sorry that I don't ponder the traditional political beliefs of the ancestors of the people that made the deliciously greased chicken that happens to be orange that I am about to destroy.

You can say what you will about Mao's people, but they know ho w to cook some noodles.

A bad night tonight for Union Of Socialist Soviet Republics, as the Summer Surge continues!

In their most devastating chain of losses yet, the LAF managed to capture five of their satellite states and military regions, one of which acted as the headquarters of the Comintern:

Reddyl Alliance

The Nationstates Comintern

Socialist Scandanavian States

Union Of Social Communists

Comintern Socialist Defence Alliance

This one's going in the papers!

Anybody else starting to get tired of Clickhole? The content quality is simply awful, and it's now rare when something truly funny gets posted by them. I think I'll just stick with The Onion from now on.

Kings Island wrote:No, sadly.

Mais, je parle Français et Anglais.

Hey, moi aussi. Without trying to sound creepy where do you live? I live in Quebec so I grew up with the two, but currently I'm learning Esperanto on my own time though so I can officially be trilingual.

So Obama met with the leader of the Vietnamese Communist Party: http://www.wsj.com/articles/obama-greets-vietnams-communist-party-chief-at-white-house-1436289002?mod=e2fb

I approve. Strengthening ties with Vietnam has been a smart diplomatic move in light of China's growing aggression in the Pacific region. Vietnam has also been a magnet for trade and market liberalisation, and has clearly benefited from it. 95% of the Vietnamese, according to a recent poll, support capitalism: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/03/13/vietnam-capitalism-global-post/70261770/

The Aradites wrote:Hey, moi aussi. Without trying to sound creepy where do you live? I live in Quebec so I grew up with the two, but currently I'm learning Esperanto on my own time though so I can officially be trilingual.

J'habite a Floride à Les États-Unis, et mon Français est couci-couça.

Pevvania wrote:A bad night tonight for Union Of Socialist Soviet Republics, as the Summer Surge continues!

In their most devastating chain of losses yet, the LAF managed to capture five of their satellite states and military regions, one of which acted as the headquarters of the Comintern:

Reddyl Alliance

The Nationstates Comintern

Socialist Scandanavian States

Union Of Social Communists

Comintern Socialist Defence Alliance

This one's going in the papers!

Awesome! Which organization is the LAF again?

In this New York Times, somebody from the 'Progressive Policy Institute' makes a firm case for cutting the US corporate tax rate: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/10/opinion/obamas-corporate-tax-blunder.html?_r=0

"Cutting the federal corporate tax rate, now 35 percent, down to internationally competitive levels is important to dissuading companies from wanting to move in the first place. Equally important is the creation of a patent or innovation box that offers lower taxes for profits from intangible assets like intellectual property. Republicans and Democrats are struggling over tax reform, but the loss of jobs is not a partisan issue. Having corporations pay their fair share by closing tax loopholes is necessary. But in a global economy, the United States can’t keep its corporate rates so much higher than the rest of the world without suffering the consequences."

Kings Island wrote:Awesome! Which organization is the LAF again?

Libertatem Armed Forces

Pevvania wrote:Libertatem Armed Forces

Wow, of course (facepalms). Now that I'm a citizen, how do I join?

Uh, why did we agree to embassies with "Funland"?

Hallo Island wrote:Uh, why did we agree to embassies with "Funland"?

banter

Pevvania wrote:Anybody else starting to get tired of Clickhole? The content quality is simply awful, and it's now rare when something truly funny gets posted by them. I think I'll just stick with The Onion from now on.

Don't read that rip off of Duffel Blog!

http://www.duffelblog.com/2012/05/needs-photo-duffel-blog-writers-launch-surprise-air-assault-on-onion-news-network/

Hallo Island wrote:Uh, why did we agree to embassies with "Funland"?

Pevvania wrote:banter

He's right. Embassies are Board domain.

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:He's right. Embassies are Board domain.

Subsection I

The President may create, approve, disapprove, abolish, etc. embassies with any region.

Pevvania, Condealism

Hallo Island wrote:Uh, why did we agree to embassies with "Funland"?

You have something against fun? =P

Muh Roads wrote:Subsection I

The President may create, approve, disapprove, abolish, etc. embassies with any region.

Subsection V

The Board, its members, and the Managers may not propose taxation or a budget of any kind in the name of the region, nor may they attempt to create legislation outside the realm of embassies, war, peace, and the check of President power.

General [nation=short]Right-winged nation[/nation] can you give a quick ruling on who has primary control of embassies to create legal precedence?

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:Subsection V

The Board, its members, and the Managers may not propose taxation or a budget of any kind in the name of the region, nor may they attempt to create legislation outside the realm of embassies, war, peace, and the check of President power.

General [nation=short]Right-winged nation[/nation] can you give a quick ruling on who has primary control of embassies to create legal precedence?

It would appear as though the president would based on the language of the law

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Muh Roads wrote:

Humpy bear <3

I love simulated communist food too.

Communism=famine, hence: Communist food=no food

Kings Island, Muh Roads, The Aradites

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:He's right. Embassies are Board domain.

No, everything is in a Roads domain. Roads is always right. Long live Lord Roads!

Reaganomic Nws

The American Empire In Libertatem wrote:No, everything is in a Roads domain. Roads is always right. Long live Lord Roads!

What I believe on this communist issue is that we are a libertarian region, and libertarianism means maximum freedom limited infrengement. I believe that Weather you are communist or not you have the freedom to believe whatever you want because this region is libertarian. so who cares if we have communists in the region, just as long as they dont turn this region from libertarian to communist everything should be fine.

Kings Island

Scaliska wrote:What I believe on this communist issue is that we are a libertarian region, and libertarianism means maximum freedom limited infrengement. I believe that Weather you are communist or not you have the freedom to believe whatever you want because this region is libertarian. so who cares if we have communists in the region, just as long as they dont turn this region from libertarian to communist everything should be fine.

Yea...but the thing with communists is that they, unlike us, are not tolerant of other people and they will, paradoxically, use the freedom we give them to destroy all freedom and democracy.

Reaganomic Nws wrote:Yea...but the thing with communists is that they, unlike us, are not tolerant of other people and they will, paradoxically, use the freedom we give them to destroy all freedom and democracy.

That said, I believe we should allow the commies to visit our region and try defend their flawed and distorted perception of the world, which they call "dialectical materialism", so long as they don't troll, spam or otherwise violatiote the rules of NS and of polite discussion. Thankfully they can't actually screw up our region and turn it into hell on earth the same way they did to numerous real life countries...

The American Empire In Libertatem wrote:No, everything is in a Roads domain. Roads is always right. Long live Lord Roads!

Where are MUH ROADS?!?!'

Reaganomic Nws wrote:Communism=famine, hence: Communist food=no food

I'm sure everyone has heard the Ethiopian cuisine joke.

Reaganomic Nws wrote:I believe we should allow the commies to visit our region and try defend their flawed and distorted perception of the world, which they call "dialectical materialism", so long as they don't troll, spam or otherwise violatiote the rules of NS and of polite discussion.

I'm glad you merely said distorted rather than "objectively wrong" or something intellectually dishonest. I think dialectical materialism does have some truths worth discussing here. I don't think the concept of class is inherently un-libertarian, there is, after all, the "working class" and the "political class". To those living in true poverty, it'd be easy to make the mistake of failing to differentiate between crony capitalists and their congressional conspirators with productive entrepreneurs and well-intentioned lawmakers. Marxist rhetoric is so convincing because of its secular focus on the material, distracting one from the more religious claim that government is even capable of changing what poverty is, much less 'eliminating' it. This is a pretty silly example, but in the "Pawnee Rangers" episode of Parks and Recreation, there was a debate as to whether the male Pawnee Rangers group should be joined with their female counterpart, the Pawnee Goddesses. A forum was held, and the girls, who had much better lodgings, food, and fun, candidly argued in both the language of cultural Marxism (not materialism) and of biological reality. The boys, who had spent the week in the cold cooking baked beans, merely said that "you girls have candy." A poignant observation when you let yourself interpret it as seeking only shelter and food. With much irony in the context, the Pawnee Rangers were miserable not because of their inability or because of 'capitalist exploitation', but because of the program as led by iconic libertarian, Ron Swanson. A 'libertarian regime' led this nation of boys into poverty driving them towards communism.

Republicans once again protecting us from big government: http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/247297-house-votes-to-renew-no-child-left-behind

With August fast approaching, I would like to announce that I will not seek reelection. I feel my presidency has been a success and my goals are being achieved. I will be doing 1 final recruitment drive, and pushing for a few final pieces of legislation. Thank you.

Pevvania, Saint Jonas

Landosenrego wrote:I'm glad you merely said distorted rather than "objectively wrong" or something intellectually dishonest. I think dialectical materialism does have some truths worth discussing here. I don't think the concept of class is inherently un-libertarian, there is, after all, the "working class" and the "political class". To those living in true poverty, it'd be easy to make the mistake of failing to differentiate between crony capitalists and their congressional conspirators with productive entrepreneurs and well-intentioned lawmakers. Marxist rhetoric is so convincing because of its secular focus on the material, distracting one from the more religious claim that government is even capable of changing what poverty is, much less 'eliminating' it. This is a pretty silly example, but in the "Pawnee Rangers" episode of Parks and Recreation, there was a debate as to whether the male Pawnee Rangers group should be joined with their female counterpart, the Pawnee Goddesses. A forum was held, and the girls, who had much better lodgings, food, and fun, candidly argued in both the language of cultural Marxism (not materialism) and of biological reality. The boys, who had spent the week in the cold cooking baked beans, merely said that "you girls have candy." A poignant observation when you let yourself interpret it as seeking only shelter and food. With much irony in the context, the Pawnee Rangers were miserable not because of their inability or because of 'capitalist exploitation', but because of the program as led by iconic libertarian, Ron Swanson. A 'libertarian regime' led this nation of boys into poverty driving them towards communism.

You realize the Ron Swanson's entire character is a parody of libertarianism, not a literal embodiment of the ideology, correct?

Hallo Island wrote:You realize the Ron Swanson's entire character is a parody of libertarianism, not a literal embodiment of the ideology, correct?

Yes. Irony certainly wasn't the right term; inherently contradictory propaganda more like. Again, a silly example, but one that I think well demonstrates the effectiveness of the rhetoric based in dialectical materialism.

20% flat income tax rate and unlimited free trade, or a 20% flat tariff rate and no income tax?

Pevvania wrote:20% flat income tax rate and unlimited free trade, or a 20% flat tariff rate and no income tax?

I choose C; a 23% consumption tax with a rebate set at the poverty line.

Kings Island wrote:I choose C; a 23% consumption tax with a rebate set at the poverty line.

That wasn't the question. The point was to ask whether you'd have free trade but a domestic income tax, or no income tax with tariffs.

There are few things more entertaining than seeing Republicans and Democrats fight it out in the Facebook comments section.

Hallo Island

Pevvania wrote:There are few things more entertaining than seeing Republicans and Democrats fight it out in the Facebook comments section.

D: YOU'RE A BIGOT!

R: YOU MISUSED THE WORD BIGOT, YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT BIGOT MEANS! YOU'RE THE BIGOT!

D:*copy and pasted definition of bigot*

Kings Island, Midland County, Ustenland, Landosenrego

Muh Roads wrote:With August fast approaching, I would like to announce that I will not seek reelection. I feel my presidency has been a success and my goals are being achieved. I will be doing 1 final recruitment drive, and pushing for a few final pieces of legislation. Thank you.

😭😭😭😭😭😭

Muh Roads wrote:With August fast approaching, I would like to announce that I will not seek reelection. I feel my presidency has been a success and my goals are being achieved. I will be doing 1 final recruitment drive, and pushing for a few final pieces of legislation. Thank you.

And we all thank you for your service.

After much planning and thought, I announce my candidacy for the RLP nomination for President of Libertatem.

Vote Humpheria 2015 for a strong military, open foreign policy, and domestic reform!

Pevvania, The New United States, Condealism, Reaganomic Nws

Right-Winged Nation wrote:😭😭😭😭😭😭

Sorry RWN :)

Muh Roads is the best President that the region has ever had. Hump will have a hard time fitting in your shoes.

The American Empire In Libertatem wrote:Muh Roads is the best President that the region has ever had. Hump will have a hard time fitting in your shoes.

I don't disagree. I wish Muh would have run again.

The American Empire In Libertatem wrote:Muh Roads is the best President that the region has ever had. Hump will have a hard time fitting in your shoes.

Shoes, which, funnily enough, Humph has already been in.

Miencraft wrote:Shoes, which, funnily enough, Humph has already been in.

Why? Was Muh president before?

Reaganomic Nws wrote:Why? Was Muh president before?

Humph was, so he's already had some experience.

Call me old-fashioned, but I think Pev was the best President. (Muh's term has been really impressive so far, though.)

Miencraft

Condealism wrote:Call me old-fashioned, but I think Pev was the best President. (Muh's term has been really impressive so far, though.)

Thank you.

I'm inclined to agree, I learned from the best.

The American Empire In Libertatem wrote:Muh Roads is the best President that the region has ever had.

Thank you American. But I wouldn't have appointed Humpy as my VP if I didn't retain full confidence in his abilities.

It seems like Muh Roads has done a lot of good for the region. So, if Humph currently the only canidate? Also, when are the next elections?

Kings Island wrote:It seems like Muh Roads has done a lot of good for the region. So, if Humph currently the only canidate? Also, when are the next elections?

Currently, nobody's running but Humph. Elections are in August, I believe.

Someone do correct me if I'm wrong.

Muh Roads has been the best President in nearly a year, and we're truly getting things done. A recruitment drive meant a strong, meaningful boost to our population, while under his tenure the TOTAL RECALL Amendment was passed, along with FRAUD II. On the table lies the exciting prospect of open borders between this region and several others. And needless to say, Roads has overseen the strongest surge in military strength since the Mien Administration. We've still got a lot more to get done before his term ends!

I fully support Humpheria's bid for the presidency. He has been a focused, energetic and principled Vice President and Chairman of the Board, and for him to serve a full term in office would be great.

The New United States, Condealism, The American Empire In Libertatem

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