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Region: Libertatem

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Supting wrote:Yakian is a true voice of the people, I commend him for his candor.

Oh wow

Post self-deleted by Pulceria.

Because Yakian has been deleted by the mods, Aradites wins Seat 1 by default. This poll will be allowed to run its course and Seat 3 will begin tomorrow.

Republic Of Minerva, Rateria, Pulceria, Girina

RIP Yakain

You will not be missed.

Humpheria, Rateria, Hyderbourg, The United States Of Patriots, Venomringo, Girina

Miencraft wrote:Because Yakian has been deleted by the mods, Aradites wins Seat 1 by default. This poll will be allowed to run its course and Seat 3 will begin tomorrow.

Why not just scrap it and move on to Seat 3 since its uncontested. We aren't voting on Seat 2, after all.

Auxorii, Pulceria

Agreed, let's vote for Seat 3 today!

Republic Of Minerva, Auxorii, Hyderbourg, Pulceria

Post self-deleted by Miencraft.

Alright boys, remember that a vote for me is a vote for security and justice.

Auxorii, Rateria, Venomringo, Pulceria

Yakian - I guess it was just a bad joke 😂😂😂

Good bye Yakian, good bye offensive authoritarian 👎

Republic Of Minerva, Auxorii, Rateria

Jadentopian Order wrote:Alright boys, remember that a vote for me is a vote for security and justice.

Wow. you are already winning by a landslide.

Auxorii, Rateria, Hyderbourg, Jadentopian Order, Pax Enigmata

[B]OFFICE OF THE VICE PRESIDENT

[I]Vice President Humpheria

The office of the Vice President condemns the recent behavior of certain citizens and thanks the moderators for enforcing game rules. Citizens should feel safe here and we must get back to thoughtful and friendly discussion. I implore those that found it somehow appropriate to support Yakian's statements to reflect on the implications of their actions and consider apologizing.

As always, our citizens handled the situation with grace and honor. Thank you.

Humph

Miencraft, Republic Of Minerva, Auxorii, Rateria, Hyderbourg, Jadentopian Order, Pulceria

Very many thanks to Hyderbourg for the endorsement!!!

Rateria, Hyderbourg

Pulceria wrote:Wow. you are already winning by a landslide.

I am very grateful for the support, I hope that I can represent the people as well as I can.

Rateria, Pax Enigmata

Just so you know, Yakain and at least one of his supporters are puppets of your current Delegate, who is now taking a mod-enforced one week ban from RMBs and Telegrams.

We thought you should know.

Nationstates Moderators wrote:Just so you know, Yakain and at least one of his supporters are puppets of your current Delegate, who is now taking a mod-enforced one week ban from RMBs and Telegrams.

We thought you should know.

WHAT???

Rateria

Nationstates Moderators wrote:Just so you know, Yakain and at least one of his supporters are puppets of your current Delegate, who is now taking a mod-enforced one week ban from RMBs and Telegrams.

We thought you should know.

Huh?

Rateria

Current Delegate... meaning Hyderbourg?

Pax Enigmata wrote:Current Delegate... meaning Hyderbourg?

Yes...

I am no official citizen of this region but I am obligated to guarantee and promote the principles of liberty and virtue. I, therefore, would like to start a poll for the impeachment process and removal of Hyderbourg immediately. Democracy is to fail if corruption like this lurks among us.

Auxorii, Libiceland

Pax Enigmata wrote:I am no official citizen of this region but I am obligated to guarantee and promote the principles of liberty and virtue. I, therefore, would like to start a poll for the impeachment process and removal of Hyderbourg immediately. Democracy is to fail if corruption like this lurks among us.

The Senate is the body responsible for impeachment.

Pax Enigmata wrote:I am no official citizen of this region but I am obligated to guarantee and promote the principles of liberty and virtue. I, therefore, would like to start a poll for the impeachment process and removal of Hyderbourg immediately. Democracy is to fail if corruption like this lurks among us.

HEAR HEAR!

Auxorii

If I am voted in as Senator for Seat 4 I will immediately begin an impeachment process.

Libiceland, Pax Enigmata

Miencraft wrote:The Senate is the body responsible for impeachment.

Well it is immediately urged that the Senate takes this route of action and arrive to a decision quickly. I and along with many other honourable members are not going to stand for this level of corruption that exists. If the appropriate course of action is not met, that is just one of many administration failures that is of Libertatem.

Auxorii, Libiceland

Post self-deleted by Venomringo.

Venomringo wrote:If and when elected I will lead the charge in the Senate to impeach President Hyderbourg. This level of corruption and defamation enacted by our "honorable" President has crossed a red line that will be dealt with accordingly...

Hopefully we can work together on it?

Venomringo, Libiceland

Let's get evidence and a trial running before pointing fingers

Miencraft, Rateria

Venomringo wrote:If and when elected I will lead the charge in the Senate to impeach President Hyderbourg. This level of corruption and defamation enacted by our "honorable" President has crossed a red line that will be dealt with accordingly...

I am more than glad to join you and Auxorii in this coalition to ensure that this region is transparent and free of demoralizing corruption that exists in this administration.

Auxorii

Post self-deleted by Venomringo.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Let's get evidence and a trial running before pointing fingers

The evidence is there

Pax Enigmata

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Let's get evidence and a trial running before pointing fingers

The evidence from the moderator itself was sufficient to be able to prosecute Hyderbourg for corruption. It is extremely crucial the Senate goes straight into impeachment and voting.

Auxorii

Pax Enigmata wrote:The evidence from the moderator itself was sufficient to be able to prosecute Hyderbourg for corruption. It is extremely crucial the Senate goes straight into impeachment and voting.

Eh, no it isn't.

All we know is that someone using the same IP is connected to Hyderbourg. Although this is heavy weight against him, if it is true he is using a public or shared facility and can prove it then the charges may not apply.

Miencraft, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Eh, no it isn't.

All we know is that someone using the same IP is connected to Hyderbourg. Although this is heavy weight against him, if it is true he is using a public or shared facility and can prove it then the charges may not apply.

Is it not ironic that the Chancellor of War, a cabinet member of Hyderbourg's administration, is attempting to assert the notion that the statement from the moderator was not enough to prove Hyderbourg's corruption? Why should we waste time and effort? Why did Hyderbourg face a one week ban from the moderators themselves without a "trial"? I would like the honorable member states to take note of this madness...

Auxorii, Libiceland

Right now, lets all calm down for a sec. We have a system in place for these sorts of things. But no one benefits from people getting worked up and being reactionary. Lets all summer for a moment.

Auxorii, Rateria, Jadentopian Order

Pax Enigmata wrote:Is it not ironic that the Chancellor of War, a cabinet member of Hyderbourg's administration, is attempting to assert the notion that the statement from the moderator was not enough to prove Hyderbourg's corruption? Why should we waste time and effort? Why did Hyderbourg face a one week ban from the moderators themselves without a "trial"? I would like the honorable member states to take note of this madness...

We do not have access to the evidence moderators use. A statement from the moderators is a statement made without us knowing anything behind it.

As we have regional procedure, we will follow this procedure.

Republic Of Minerva, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Pax Enigmata wrote:The evidence from the moderator itself was sufficient to be able to prosecute Hyderbourg for corruption. It is extremely crucial the Senate goes straight into impeachment and voting.

I agree that it should be looked into but as far as voting immediately. lets not let anger rob justice. he deserves a fair trial.

remember innocent till proven guilty.

Rateria

Humpheria wrote:Right now, lets all calm down for a sec. We have a system in place for these sorts of things. But no one benefits from people getting worked up and being reactionary. Lets all summer for a moment.

Simmer*

Pulceria wrote:remember innocent till proven guilty.

I thought this was america

Miencraft wrote:We do not have access to the evidence moderators use. A statement from the moderators is a statement made without us knowing anything behind it.

As we have regional procedure, we will follow this procedure.

This is absolutely preposterous and absolutely ignorant against the members of this region. If the assertion made by the moderators is not enough to impeach Hyderbourg, I will state that the honorable members of Miencraft and Minerva do not accurately represent the interests of the member states.

Libiceland

Pax Enigmata wrote:This is absolutely preposterous and absolutely ignorant against the members of this region. If the assertion made by the moderators is not enough to impeach Hyderbourg, I will state that the honorable members of Miencraft and Minerva do not accurately represent the interests of the member states.

We do not have the evidence that led them to make that statement. We will conduct investigations and, potentially, a trial, in accordance with regional laws.

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Pax Enigmata wrote:The evidence from the moderator itself was sufficient to be able to prosecute Hyderbourg for corruption. It is extremely crucial the Senate goes straight into impeachment and voting.

Hey Pax Enigmata is this your first nation?, because you seem to know a lot (more than I did anyhow) about how Nation States works, and its only been three days.

Pulceria wrote:I agree that it should be looked into but as far as voting immediately. lets not let anger rob justice. he deserves a fair trial.

remember innocent till proven guilty.

I think the honorable member is ignoring the fact that the assertion made by the moderator is enough to prosecute Hyderbourg effectively. I do not know what difference a "free trial" will make in evaluating this corruption case.

Pulceria wrote:Hey Pax Enigmata is this your first nation?, because you seem to know a lot (more than I did anyhow) about how Nation States works, and its only been three days.

Nah lol this is my second nation... Decided to make a new one

Pax Enigmata wrote:I think the honorable member is ignoring the fact that the assertion made by the moderator is enough to prosecute Hyderbourg effectively.

A statement without evidence is not considered sufficient evidence for conviction.

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Jadentopian Order

Miencraft wrote:A statement without evidence is not considered sufficient evidence for conviction.

You are turning a blind eye against the truth and I want honorable members of this region to note that this is how the administration is responding to this conflict. We are wasting effort and time. The level of corruption in this region seems to be surfacing and I am appalled.

Auxorii, Libiceland, Pulceria

Just respond with #RLPtyranny, its easier

Rateria, Pax Enigmata

Pax Enigmata wrote:You are turning a blind eye against the truth and I want honorable members of this region to note that this is how the administration is responding to this conflict. We are wasting effort and time. The level of corruption in this region seems to be surfacing and I am appalled.

We will not act without evidence. We will not ignore procedure. There is a procedure in place for things like this. That procedure will be followed. We will not devolve into mob rule. We will remain civil and go about this according to the procedure we have defined. It will be taken care of, in due time.

Republic Of Minerva, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Pulceria

Pax Enigmata wrote:I think the honorable member is ignoring the fact that the assertion made by the moderator is enough to prosecute Hyderbourg effectively. I do not know what difference a "free trial" will make in evaluating this corruption case.

"Without proper Order, there is no proper Justice"

I was only worried about, us jumping to conclusions.

lets see what President Hyderbourg will say in his defense.

Miencraft, Rateria

Pax Enigmata wrote:You are turning a blind eye against the truth and I want honorable members of this region to note that this is how the administration is responding to this conflict. We are wasting effort and time. The level of corruption in this region seems to be surfacing and I am appalled.

You have no power here

Pulceria

Statement from President Hyderbourg:

"I go to a school with public wifi and public computers, at this school, I know for a fact, many students not only play NationStates, but have nations in Libertatem, Sushi State lives in my dormitory as well as Chacondom, a nation that recently CTE’d. I’ve had problems with the moderators before regarding this as once they thought The Auridon Isles was my puppet, even though it belonged to someone else at my school. I truly believe that there has been some error on the part of the mods and I have reached out to them to inquire upon that. I have worked in this region for years to ensure its improvement. I know right now lots of you do not trust me, but I hope that in the next few days I can regain your trust. I believe in the institutions of this region to find justice and I believe in the people of this region to find justice. Right now lots of you don’t want me to be president, I will act as the people want me to, for that reason I will give Humpheria temporary power until this issue is resolved. Please have faith in me and the institutions of this region."

Rateria, Hyderbourg, Pulceria

The States Of Balloon wrote:You have no power here

for once I agree with balloon.

I suggest that you (Pax Enigmata) become a citizen. if you wan't us to trust you, and agree with you, that's the best way.

Venomringo wrote:Statement from President Hyderbourg:

"I go to a school with public wifi and public computers, at this school, I know for a fact, many students not only play NationStates, but have nations in Libertatem, Sushi State lives in my dormitory as well as Chacondom, a nation that recently CTE’d. I’ve had problems with the moderators before regarding this as once they thought The Auridon Isles was my puppet, even though it belonged to someone else at my school. I truly believe that there has been some error on the part of the mods and I have reached out to them to inquire upon that. I have worked in this region for years to ensure its improvement. I know right now lots of you do not trust me, but I hope that in the next few days I can regain your trust. I believe in the institutions of this region to find justice and I believe in the people of this region to find justice. Right now lots of you don’t want me to be president, I will act as the people want me to, for that reason I will give Humpheria temporary power until this issue is resolved. Please have faith in me and the institutions of this region."

I can assure the people of the region that everything is under control. This is not my first tumultuous time at the helm. We all are wishing for the best right now, and now is not a time to turn against each other. The government is fully functioning, in Libertatem until the Senate can meet or the Court can rule, its business as usual.

Republic Of Minerva, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Pulceria

Humpheria wrote:I can assure the people of the region that everything is under control. This is not my first tumultuous time at the helm. We all are wishing for the best right now, and now is not a time to turn against each other. The government is fully functioning, in Libertatem until the Senate can meet or the Court can rule, its business as usual.

said like a true leader.

Auxorii, Rateria

Venomringo wrote:I will act as the people want me to, for that reason I will give Humpheria temporary power until this issue is resolved. Please have faith in me and the institutions of this region."

Awesome statement. it shows true patriotism and courage.

If elected I will try to find the truth and if you are honest then I will do all I can to help you.

Sincerely Pulceria

Rateria, Hyderbourg

"Let us search for truth, and not satisfaction for our anger"

Rateria, Hyderbourg

"The more you try to silence hateful views, the more they will think that the world is against them and the more aggressive they will be."

"The more aggressive the Enemy, The more powerful the Pacifist"

"Get off my property you hippie."

Rateria

The States Of Balloon wrote:"Get off my property you hippie."

???????

Impressive showing in the 3rd Senate Seat. Congrats, Jaden!

Rateria, Pulceria

couldn't we do two polls at the same time. I'm mean it would make this a lot faster. :)

Auxorii

Humpheria wrote:Impressive showing in the 3rd Senate Seat. Congrats, Jaden!

Thank you. I hope that I can keep this lead so that I may represent Liberatem in the Senate.

Rateria, Hyderbourg, Pulceria

Pax Enigmata wrote:Well it is immediately urged that the Senate takes this route of action and arrive to a decision quickly. I and along with many other honourable members are not going to stand for this level of corruption that exists. If the appropriate course of action is not met, that is just one of many administration failures that is of Libertatem.

Who the hell are you?

Miencraft, Auxorii, Rateria

Pevvania wrote:Who the hell are you?

mhomen 3.0

Pevvania, Republic Of Minerva, Rateria, Jadentopian Order

[B]STATEMENT[/B]

The Senate will not rush to impeach anybody until this matter is investigated properly. The statement by the moderators does not necessarily imply guilt, since they do not distinguish between nations using the same IP. We will fairly look into this matter and see it resolved so that the region can continue as normal.

Miencraft, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Pulceria

Pevvania wrote:[B]STATEMENT[/B]

The Senate will not rush to impeach anybody until this matter is investigated properly. The statement by the moderators does not necessarily imply guilt, since they do not distinguish between nations using the same IP. We will fairly look into this matter and see it resolved so that the region can continue as normal.

Blah blah blah, this is so obvious though

Pevvania wrote:Who the hell are you?

personally, I prefer "Heck".

But I agree. Pax Enigmata should become an official citizen before taking such a bold stand. it would be more "proper".

Auxorii, Rateria

Libiceland wrote:Blah blah blah, this is so obvious though

Its not so obvious to me.

Rateria

Libiceland wrote:Blah blah blah, this is so obvious though

just stop

Libiceland wrote:Blah blah blah, this is so obvious though

We are a libertarian region. We do not punish unless we are certain of guilt.

Auxorii, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Jadentopian Order, Pulceria

I rescind earlier comments regarding a potential impeachment of President Hyderbourg...I merely said those statements in a reactionary fashion due to the shock of such possible corruption. I will work in a Realpolitik approach, if elected, and not rush such a pressing issue.

Pevvania, Humpheria, Rateria, Hyderbourg, The United States Of Patriots, Jadentopian Order

Venomringo wrote:I rescind earlier comments regarding a potential impeachment of President Hyderbourg...I merely said those statements in a reactionary fashion due to the shock of such possible corruption. I will work in a Realpolitik approach, if elected, and not rush such a pressing issue.

You're just trying to save face now that public opinion has shifted. How dishonest.

Auxorii, Libiceland, Pulceria

A suggestion for first-time runners for political office, you should post or even send a platform for voters to see.

Rateria, Hyderbourg

I will still be looking to impeach him, assuming I'm elected, if he is guilty of the charges.

Libiceland

The States Of Balloon wrote:You're just trying to save face now that public opinion has shifted. How dishonest.

No, I made a public statement way too fast due to the suddenness that this situation was bestowed on us. I shouldn't have said anything until I heard the other side, which is crucial to running a fair trial.

Pevvania, Rateria

Auxorii wrote:I will still be looking to impeach him, assuming I'm elected, if he is guilty of the charges.

The impeachment is the trial to find out if he's guilty.

The States Of Balloon wrote:You have no power here

Power? Is this what Libertatem stands for? Just because I hold no official office or position because the administration has not granted me citizenship? I want all member Nations to be aware of the very statement that was made by The States of Balloon. This is the very corrupted and tyrannical administration that's faces before us.

Pax Enigmata wrote:Power? Is this what Libertatem stands for? Just because I hold no official office or position because the administration has not granted me citizenship? I want all member Nations to be aware of the very statement that was made by The States of Balloon. This is the very corrupted and tyrannical administration that's faces before us.

Balloon is not a member of the administration.

Rateria

Miencraft wrote:The impeachment is the trial to find out if he's guilty.

The mods saying that is reason enough for us to have a fair trial where Hyder can defend himself.

Auxorii wrote:The mods saying that is reason enough for us to have a fair trial where Hyder can defend himself.

The mods saying something is not sufficient evidence for a trial.

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Pax Enigmata wrote:Power? Is this what Libertatem stands for? Just because I hold no official office or position because the administration has not granted me citizenship? I want all member Nations to be aware of the very statement that was made by The States of Balloon. This is the very corrupted and tyrannical administration that's faces before us.

There is no "us". If you don't like it here just leave

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Pax Enigmata

Miencraft wrote:The mods saying something is not sufficient evidence for a trial.

Moderators saying that they have the same IP...Hyder says this is because they go to the same school, yet Hyder also said Sushi State goes to that school and uses the same network, but have had no trouble with them being in the WA.

But no, let's not have a trial where we can bring up evidence and debate about it. Total nonsense, right? Fraud and treason aren't a big deal at all.

Libiceland, Pax Enigmata

Post self-deleted by Miencraft.

Auxorii wrote:Moderators saying that they have the same IP

We don't have access to how they determine such things. Therefore, their statement is not sufficient evidence.

Rateria

Miencraft wrote:We don't have access to how they determine such things. Therefore, their statement is not sufficient evidence.

So after the mods confirm it is the same IP we can move on to a trial?

Auxorii wrote:So after the mods confirm it is the same IP we can move on to a trial?

We need to have access to the evidence that they use.

Miencraft wrote:We need to have access to the evidence that they use.

So I need permission to sue him?

Auxorii wrote:So I need permission to sue him?

You need a case to present to the court. You need evidence to have a case.

Rateria

Pax Enigmata wrote:Power? Is this what Libertatem stands for? Just because I hold no official office or position because the administration has not granted me citizenship? I want all member Nations to be aware of the very statement that was made by The States of Balloon. This is the very corrupted and tyrannical administration that's faces before us.

You're not even a citizen yet so you really shouldn't tell the government how to run its own region, at least not with that condescending tone. And after your complete disregard for the existing government of Libertatem without a good reason, I would be quite wary of making you a citizen as I predict a pattern of general "thorn-in-side" annoyance from you.

#Balloon4BorderControl

Miencraft, Pevvania, Auxorii, Rateria, Hyderbourg, The United States Of Patriots, Venomringo, Libiceland

Venomringo wrote:No, I made a public statement way too fast due to the suddenness that this situation was bestowed on us. I shouldn't have said anything until I heard the other side, which is crucial to running a fair trial.

So don't make hasty decisions then. If you can't take the time to think through your decisions, then I don't feel comfortable putting my faith in your administration.

Friend: so are you up to date on those spicy memes

Me: yeah fam

My mind: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-4jwzan3AyA

Pax Enigmata wrote:Power? Is this what Libertatem stands for? Just because I hold no official office or position because the administration has not granted me citizenship? I want all member Nations to be aware of the very statement that was made by The States of Balloon. This is the very corrupted and tyrannical administration that's faces before us.

A very bold statement. But it makes perfect sense. I don't agree with balloon.

I think people are A little over protective of their elected president, and took your comments as an offence. But you strike good points.

I hope you are granted citizenship.

Welcome to Libertatem, hope the rest of your stay is better then today has been. :)

Auxorii, Pax Enigmata

The States Of Balloon wrote:So don't make hasty decisions then. If you can't take the time to think through your decisions, then I don't feel comfortable putting my faith in your administration.

I appreciate your concerns, citizen. We all make mistakes and I promise I will not continue this impulsive behavior.

Rateria

The States Of Balloon wrote:So don't make hasty decisions then. If you can't take the time to think through your decisions, then I don't feel comfortable putting my faith in your administration.

Does that mean you will vote for me :)

Hahahahahahahaha

Venomringo wrote:I appreciate your concerns, citizen. We all make mistakes and I promise I will not continue this impulsive behavior.

thank you comrade

Pulceria wrote:Does that mean you will vote for me :)

Hahahahahahahaha

Pulceria wrote:I don't agree with balloon.

Nice try

Rateria

gg dred

Republic Of Minerva, Rateria

When a person expects you to know that they're trans based on their clothing but clothing is gender neutral and saying otherwise is sexist

Miencraft, Rateria

The States Of Balloon wrote:When a person expects you to know that they're trans based on their clothing but clothing is gender neutral and saying otherwise is sexist

*Walks up to a very attractive looking woman from behind*

"Hey, how is it going beautiful?"

*said woman turns around, revealing a square jaw and five o clock shadow*

"Oh, nevermind."

Pevvania, Muh Roads, Rateria, Venomringo

btw i am not sexist or transphobic in any way...i'm just describing an...interesting encounter

Pevvania, Muh Roads, Rateria

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