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Anyways, guys, Presidential Elections are next month.

Dunno why I'm bringing it up at the start of November, but I just figured I should let everyone know because the recent Board turnout was horrible and I want to see more people get involved.

The following is a poorly written work of satire, and does not reflect the views of Libertatem.

You see, children, that's why libertarianism is inferior to authoritarianism - without a government, who will build and maintain muh roads? In an anarchist society, all we'll have are dirt roads, because private contractors aren't very good at blah blah blah this and that...*drones on about the benefits of socialism and the evils of rational self-interest*

Miencraft wrote:"Please delete" =/= "you should delete this stuff or else"

After all, I could very well have just suppressed it, but decided not to.

Miencraft wrote: (if anyone does want that stuff to stay here, though, of course say something).

You kind of asked.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:The following is a poorly written work of satire, and does not reflect the views of Libertatem.

You see, children, that's why libertarianism is inferior to authoritarianism - without a government, who will build and maintain muh roads? In an anarchist society, all we'll have are dirt roads, because private contractors aren't very good at blah blah blah this and that...*drones on about the benefits of socialism and the evils of rational self-interest*

Who will build the roads for the people who can't pay for them, yet need them?

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:You kind of asked.

Well, yeah.

I took your response to be more of a "are you really telling him to take that stuff down that should be up to him".

After all, "please" kind of means "I want you to do this but you don't have to".

Also our forum is really old and dead.

Too bad. We could have used it.

Miencraft wrote:Well, yeah.

I took your response to be more of a "are you really telling him to take that stuff down that should be up to him".

After all, "please" kind of means "I want you to do this but you don't have to".

My responses always come off wrong...I've noticed that everywhere...hmmm...

Miencraft wrote:Also our forum is really old and dead.

Too bad. We could have used it.

TIme for a new better one??

Ankha wrote:TIme for a new better one??

Could just let it die off, like the newspaper.

Or yeah, we could get a bunch of active people together to make a big forum that we as a region highly encourage the use of.

That might just turn into what we already have, though, so I think we should focus on other, more important things.

Miencraft wrote:Could just let it die off, like the newspaper.

Or yeah, we could get a bunch of active people together to make a big forum that we as a region highly encourage the use of.

That might just turn into what we already have, though, so I think we should focus on other, more important things.

Ok.....if you change your mind, Id be happy to host a flashy new one.

Ankha wrote:Ok.....if you change your mind, Id be happy to host a flashy new one.

I mean, if you want to host a flashy new one, go ahead, I'm just saying it's likely going to die off and I won't highly encourage the use of it since we've come so far without them.

Just make sure it's always up-to-date and I'll shove it into the WFE.

Miencraft wrote:I mean, if you want to host a flashy new one, go ahead, I'm just saying it's likely going to die off and I won't highly encourage the use of it since we've come so far without them.

Just make sure it's always up-to-date and I'll shove it into the WFE.

First Id just need to know if people would use it. Poll??

Does anyone here support The Privatization of the Military?

The State Of Deseret wrote:Does anyone here support The Privatization of the Military?

Probably someone does.

" Democracy? Democracy is not what these people need, hell it's not even what these people want. America's been trying to install democracy in nation's for a century and it hasn't worked one time. These countries don't have the most basic blocks to support Democracy. Little things like we must be tolerant of those who disagree with us, worship differently, or that a journalist can question the president. And you think you can march into these countries based on some fundamentalist religious principle, drop a few bombs, topple a dictator and start a democracy? Give me a break. People don't want freedom, they want boundaries, rules and protection. From invaders and themselves. People need a leader who can give them both the support and constraints to keep chaos at bay. You give them that and they'll follow. "

Ankha wrote:First Id just need to know if people would use it. Poll??

Sure.

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The Supreme Council of the Dirt Roads *is* a private military. We just own the country.

I dont think a private millitary would be a good thing. Defense is the job of a minarchist Government.

I personally believe PMC's are simply mercenaries for hire who will do a job for you then stab you from behind to get paid again.

A private military is unaccountable, even in a completely free market, as they can simply use the monopoly of force to bypass the free market's financial backlash and extort people using the same means that a state can.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:A private military is unaccountable, even in a completely free market, as they can simply use the monopoly of force to bypass the free market's financial backlash and extort people using the same means that a state can.

I don't know about this. A voluntaryist society would be very heavily armed, and armed individuals would most certainly outnumber a private military organisation. They would not be able to create a new state. It would be logistically near-impossible.

Today one year ago was when I became President. Good times.

Pevvania wrote:I don't know about this. A voluntaryist society would be very heavily armed, and armed individuals would most certainly outnumber a private military organisation. They would not be able to create a new state. It would be logistically near-impossible.

How do you know that a voluntaryist society would be heavily armed? I don't expect the granny/mentally unstable guy who lives near me to have an automatic rifle, and it definitely makes me feel better if they don't.

A group of individuals who pool their resources together in obtaining arms and researching new ones to overcome these defenses. Nobody will be organized, and if they do become organized, then you are back to the state again with warring armies to boot.

Pevvania wrote:I don't know about this. A voluntaryist society would be very heavily armed, and armed individuals would most certainly outnumber a private military organisation. They would not be able to create a new state. It would be logistically near-impossible.

Why would everyone be armed heavily? If that is the case then where does the PMC even come in. It wouldn't protect the poor. It'd protect the rich people who can buy it. And these rich people can use it to thus exhort the poor, making a basic aristocracy until eh PMC is gone.

Since Blackwater, Im a no on PMCs.

Our mission in Congress Of Armed Proletarian States is nearing completion. All operatives within the region please withdraw.

Also, I'm going to start clearing out dead embassies this month. Going to do a couple per day, should be done with that by the end of the month.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:Why would everyone be armed heavily? If that is the case then where does the PMC even come in. It wouldn't protect the poor. It'd protect the rich people who can buy it. And these rich people can use it to thus exhort the poor, making a basic aristocracy until eh PMC is gone.

I resent the entire "only rich people would get it" argument. It's entirely irrelevant in nearly every case of market action. People once cried for the nationalisation of the light bulb, car, food and just about every other industry, reasoning that if they were left under unchecked private control, only the rich would be able to access them. This is stupid, because it's in the interest of every company to maximise its profits, which in most cases cannot happen if the product is restricted to a small consumer base. Creating more customers through lowering prices leads to higher long-term revenues, and infinite possibilities of repeat and enhanced purchases. The only industries run "4 teh benefit of teh rich" are either state-owned industries or government-sponsored cartels.

Pevvania wrote:I resent the entire "only rich people would get it" argument. It's entirely irrelevant in nearly every case of market action. People once cried for the nationalisation of the light bulb, car, food and just about every other industry, reasoning that if they were left under unchecked private control, only the rich would be able to access them. This is stupid, because it's in the interest of every company to maximise its profits, which in most cases cannot happen if the product is restricted to a small consumer base. Creating more customers through lowering prices leads to higher long-term revenues, and infinite possibilities of repeat and enhanced purchases. The only industries run "4 teh benefit of teh rich" are either state-owned industries or government-sponsored cartels.

Yes but PMC's are different. They will stand with the guys who pay them the most. Say the rich pay them so the rich can get something from the poor. The poor can't pay higher than the rich. Say the poor pay the PMV to get something from the rich. The rich simply outpay the poor.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:Yes but PMC's are different. They will stand with the guys who pay them the most. Say the rich pay them so the rich can get something from the poor. The poor can't pay higher than the rich. Say the poor pay the PMV to get something from the rich. The rich simply outpay the poor.

Hiring a third party to infringe upon the rights of others isn't something most people (even sociopaths) would be willing to do, even in an anarchic society.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Hiring a third party to infringe upon the rights of others isn't something most people (even sociopaths) would be willing to do, even in an anarchic society.

Most Muslims don't blow things up. But who are the vocal ones?

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:You kind of asked.Who will build the roads for the people who can't pay for them, yet need them?

They could you know, take personal responsibility and build them, themselves.

Congrats to CI for retaining chairmanship!

Muh Roads wrote:They could you know, take personal responsibility and build them, themselves.

But what if they had no access to education?

Muh Roads wrote:Congrats to CI for retaining chairmanship!

Good job, CI.

I have a plan I'll bring to you guys soon. First, I need to go come up with a plan.

The problem with forums is actually getting people to use the. It only attracts the one's who want to have a role outside of NS, which many people don't want to do.

Jordsindia wrote:The problem with forums is actually getting people to use the. It only attracts the one's who want to have a role outside of NS, which many people don't want to do.

Eh, TCB did a pretty good job at getting their forums active, but that's mostly because pretty much everything goes on there.

Since we've never actually put citizenship/the map/anything else on our forums, they fell pretty quickly into disuse and I suspect they will continue to do so if we attempt to revive them.

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Miencraft wrote:Eh, TCB did a pretty good job at getting their forums active, but that's mostly because pretty much everything goes on there.

Since we've never actually put citizenship/the map/anything else on our forums, they fell pretty quickly into disuse and I suspect they will continue to do so if we attempt to revive them.

Would you ever consider moving those activities to a forum? That would surely help make it active.

Jordsindia wrote:Would you ever consider moving those activities to a forum? That would surely help make it active.

Perhaps, but they're just so much more convenient here so I'm not sure why I would do that.

And, honestly, the only real reason I could see us having some forums would be to RP without filling the RMB. Last RP we tried crashed and burned, so I don't think that'll work out very well.

Miencraft wrote:Perhaps, but they're just so much more convenient here so I'm not sure why I would do that.

And, honestly, the only real reason I could see us having some forums would be to RP without filling the RMB. Last RP we tried crashed and burned, so I don't think that'll work out very well.

Use the forums. It's easier

Miencraft wrote:Perhaps, but they're just so much more convenient here so I'm not sure why I would do that.

And, honestly, the only real reason I could see us having some forums would be to RP without filling the RMB. Last RP we tried crashed and burned, so I don't think that'll work out very well.

True.

But their is an aspect to forums. Too add to the RP-ing, it can be great for social interactions, games, and news/information. We can discuss issues according to the topics, like General, Current Events, History, Spam, Art, Stories, Region RPing, etc. We wouldn't have to discuss these things on the NS forums, and it would be alot more efficient than using the RMB.

I'd think there would be a possible reason to move Libertatem activities to the forum.

So, Bill Clinton is in Louisville campaigning for Allison Grimes. Sad Sad Sad

The State Of Deseret wrote:Use the forums. It's easier

Looking at the results of this poll so far, doesn't look like many people agree with you there.

Miencraft wrote:Looking at the results of this poll so far, doesn't look like many people agree with you there.

Wrong. Regional forums implies offsite forums.

I'm going for Onsite forums.

Cause someone said it was for RP and it was between those two things.

Also. I'll have a New Party up soon. A more Centrist Libertarian Party.

The State Of Deseret wrote:Also. I'll have a New Party up soon. A more Centrist Libertarian Party.

Hope you can persuade me, seeing as I haven't joined one yet ;P

The State Of Deseret wrote:Wrong. Regional forums implies offsite forums.

I'm going for Onsite forums.

Cause someone said it was for RP and it was between those two things.

Wait.

What?

Onsite as in the NS forums? Why the hell would we use those?

Miencraft wrote:Wait.

What?

Onsite as in the NS forums? Why the hell would we use those?

It's onsite. Why would you not?

Jordsindia wrote:Hope you can persuade me, seeing as I haven't joined one yet ;P

Depends what do you like economically and can you live with a Church ran government?

The State Of Deseret wrote:Wrong. Regional forums implies offsite forums.

I'm going for Onsite forums.

Cause someone said it was for RP and it was between those two things.

And what do you mean "Wrong"?

Just about half of everyone who's voted in this poll says "no", so obviously they don't agree with you.

The State Of Deseret wrote:It's onsite. Why would you not?

.... because we have no control over them?

Because we can't conduct any real business there?

List goes on.

Miencraft wrote:And what do you mean "Wrong"?

Just about half of everyone who's voted in this poll says "no", so obviously they don't agree with you.

Regional Forums Implies Offsite forum usage.

I just explained that.

Miencraft wrote:.... because we have no control over them?

Because we can't conduct any real business there?

List goes on.

If you found something in Gameplay. A senate you can ask admins to remove posts that aren't yours. But most people know not to interfere in it.

And other than Senate and RPs (Which you can do the same thing for) why do you need forums for anything else?

The State Of Deseret wrote:And other than Senate and RPs (Which you can do the same thing for) why do you need forums for anything else?

Jordsindia wrote:True.

But their is an aspect to forums. Too add to the RP-ing, it can be great for social interactions, games, and news/information. We can discuss issues according to the topics, like General, Current Events, History, Spam, Art, Stories, Region RPing, etc. We wouldn't have to discuss these things on the NS forums, and it would be alot more efficient than using the RMB.

I'd think there would be a possible reason to move Libertatem activities to the forum.

Jordsindia wrote:

Get NS++ and ressurect the News Paper or use the WFE, Current events we can discuss here or in general, Spam is not something to do.

Art and stories. I like them but NS? For what?

The State Of Deseret wrote:Get NS++ and ressurect the News Paper or use the WFE, Current events we can discuss here or in general, Spam is not something to do.

Art and stories. I like them but NS? For what?

Spam, is usually something for forum games.

Like I said, we wouldn't need to use the NS forums.

Jordsindia wrote:Spam, is usually something for forum games.

Like I said, we wouldn't need to use the NS forums.

It's easier though.

The State Of Deseret wrote:It's easier though.

Implying clicking on a 'Forum' link on the WFE is hard.

Jordsindia wrote:Implying clicking on a 'Forum' link on the WFE is hard.

It's harder to set up when NS gives us a forum that's already set up.

The State Of Deseret wrote:It's harder to set up when NS gives us a forum that's already set up.

Well, that is up to whoever is willing to set it up. But once it is created, it isn't any harder than using the NS forums.

Jordsindia wrote:Well, that is up to whoever is willing to set it up. But once it is created, it isn't any harder than using the NS forums.

Well it doesn't matter anyways. We will be using the NS forums due to the vote.

The State Of Deseret wrote:Regional Forums Implies Offsite forum usage.

So? We don't have a reason to use the on-site ones, so it doesn't really matter; there's obviously very little interest in using forums anyways.

The State Of Deseret wrote:Well it doesn't matter anyways. We will be using the NS forums due to the vote.

Implying we do use forums at all.

We already have everything we need right here, so I highly doubt we'll use Barry's forums for anything beyond RP.

Well thwn what does it matter?

I just hate Off-Site forums.

Some interesting characters are poised to win the elections on Tuesday. And it appears that the Libertarian Party will win more votes than ever, if current polling is indicative of anything. Their candidates may act as a 'spoiler' in numerous races from Illinois to the Carolinas.

Fingers crossed that Pelosi or Reid will be thrown out.

Pevvania wrote:Some interesting characters are poised to win the elections on Tuesday. And it appears that the Libertarian Party will win more votes than ever, if current polling is indicative of anything. Their candidates may act as a 'spoiler' in numerous races from Illinois to the Carolinas.

Fingers crossed that Pelosi or Reid will be thrown out.

N Geirgia Libertarians are going to cause a run-off for both Senate and Governor races. With the Party getting 6-8 percent in both from current polls.

Pevvania wrote:Their candidates may act as a 'spoiler' in numerous races from Illinois to the Carolinas.

I'm glad I have a Libertarian candidate to vote for in the IL Senate and AG races... I can't stand Jim Oberweis.

However I can't stand the Liberitarians Candidate for Governor.

He is terrible. Supports subsidies and a State Healthcare plan like NHC but ran by each state separately.

Pevvania wrote:Some interesting characters are poised to win the elections on Tuesday. And it appears that the Libertarian Party will win more votes than ever, if current polling is indicative of anything. Their candidates may act as a 'spoiler' in numerous races from Illinois to the Carolinas.

Fingers crossed that Pelosi or Reid will be thrown out.

Haven't been following. Is there a way I can easily see this?

New Jersey is one of the least libertarian state in the Union, and our party is only 10 years old as opposed to most which were founded in the 70s. But anything to get rid of Christie and his goons.

As of Yesterday the Warring States Government has surrendered to the Free Islam Movement. The FIM is meeting on Whether to have a One-Party or Multi-Party state.

Muh Roads wrote:Congrats to CI for retaining chairmanship!

Thank you, Mr. Manager. I'll prepare a speech for the November term soon.

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_warring_states_of_the_mediterranean/detail=factbook/id=322602

The factbook is not done, but it's getting there.

Tell me if I should expand on anything.

Pevvania wrote:Some interesting characters are poised to win the elections on Tuesday. And it appears that the Libertarian Party will win more votes than ever, if current polling is indicative of anything. Their candidates may act as a 'spoiler' in numerous races from Illinois to the Carolinas.

Fingers crossed that Pelosi or Reid will be thrown out.

Hopefully

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_warring_states_of_the_mediterranean/detail=factbook/id=322602

The factbook is not done, but it's getting there.

Tell me if I should expand on anything.

The possessive form of "it" is "its", not "it's". "It's" is "it is".

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Miencraft wrote:The possessive form of "it" is "its", not "it's". "It's" is "it is".

Not what I meant. Gosh.

Grammar is sinply a tool of the Bourgeois to exploit the uneducated poor.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:Grammar is sinply a tool of the Bourgeois to exploit the uneducated poor.

u wot m8?

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:u wot m8?

I will not betray the Proletariat by investing my time in perfecting a oppressive tool started by the Beuguosies.

Gee, you know what I'd like for Christmas?

I condemnation from the Left.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:Not what I meant. Gosh.

No, I mean in the factbook itself.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Gee, you know what I'd like for Christmas?

I condemnation from the Left.

I could get TTA to yell at you for something. Does that count?

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:I could get TTA to yell at you for something. Does that count?

no

Hello everyone,

I would like to introduce myself. I am a puppet of Aidanton (formerly I have been known as CSE, Bavaria, Adenauer, and the Swiss Council; those nations have long since CTE'd and/or changed hands). You can call me what ever you would like, whether it is Yankee Freedom Fighters (or some derivative), Aidanton, or my personal favorite, Swissy.

In the past, I was the original founder of the IRU and FFS, and served as Chief Justice in the FFS. Since the creation of the IRU, I was allied with Liberosia. Our regions, FFS/IRU and Libertatem, have had our differences especially at one point they have made things tense. Nowadays, I would not consider myself a nation of FFS, ever since my retirement and consequential seclusion. Since then, I have floated around. Now I am quite busy with university and so have remained inactive. But, I still enjoy to check in every now and then.

I have always admired Libertatem for its political structure (although I have disagreed with Liberosia on some aspects but ultimately like its simplicity and openness) and active community. So, I would like to get back into the swing of things and spend some time in Libertatem. I will give fair warning that though I lean libertarian with my social and economic liberal (as in the classical and non-US definition) beliefs, I identify as a liberal (again in the internationally historical and frankly accurate sense) and a independent/centrist. Part of the reason for some of my conflicting political beliefs is my distrust of orthodoxy and dogma, and cultural and family upbringing in the West Coast (Pacific Northwest). I still think that will jive here in Libertatem.

Not intentionally trying to cause confusion, my nation has added Seinfeld details of like some of Pevvania's nations. We are both big fans of the TV show. To be transparent, here is a list of my personal puppets: http://www.nationstates.net/nation=aidanton/detail=factbook/id=136768.

Anyway, I hope to be welcome to join you all.

Peace.

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Yankee Freedom Fighters wrote:Hello everyone,

I would like to introduce myself. I am a puppet of Aidanton (formerly I have been known as CSE, Bavaria, Adenauer, and the Swiss Council; those nations have long since CTE'd and/or changed hands). You can call me what ever you would like, whether it is Yankee Freedom Fighters (or some derivative), Aidanton, or my personal favorite, Swissy.

In the past, I was the original founder of the IRU and FFS, and served as Chief Justice in the FFS. Since the creation of the IRU, I was allied with Liberosia. Our regions, FFS/IRU and Libertatem, have had our differences especially at one point they have made things tense. Nowadays, I would not consider myself a nation of FFS, ever since my retirement and consequential seclusion. Since then, I have floated around. Now I am quite busy with university and so have remained inactive. But, I still enjoy to check in every now and then.

I have always admired Libertatem for its political structure (although I have disagreed with Liberosia on some aspects but ultimately like its simplicity and openness) and active community. So, I would like to get back into the swing of things and spend some time in Libertatem. I will give fair warning that though I lean libertarian with my social and economic liberal (as in the classical and non-US definition) beliefs, I identify as a liberal (again in the internationally historical and frankly accurate sense) and a independent/centrist. Part of the reason for some of my conflicting political beliefs is my distrust of orthodoxy and dogma, and cultural and family upbringing in the West Coast (Pacific Northwest). I still think that will jive here in Libertatem.

Not intentionally trying to cause confusion, my nation has added Seinfeld details of like some of Pevvania's nations. We are both big fans of the TV show. To be transparent, here is a list of my personal puppets: http://www.nationstates.net/nation=aidanton/detail=factbook/id=136768.

Anyway, I hope to be welcome to join you all.

Peace.

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Hello!

I thought you were familiar somehow. I am Minerva, better known as The Liberated Territories (on the forums).

Libertatem has an interesting political structure, despite myself not being too big into law as much as I am into pure political theory.

I too, hail from the bluest parts of the East Coast and I am more or less more liberal with social issues than many people (although I am not an anarchist) to the point where I identify more of a classical liberal than the modern interpretation of a libertarian as either a Paulite or hardcore Rothbardian. That being said, I equally dislike the label of liberal being equated with "left wing" and social liberalism and will identify libertarian in the Anglosphere since it's easier. I prefer economists like Hayek and politicians like Mike Gravel (look him up, I'd think you'd like him).

Otherwise, I'd hope you find a good home here.

Glad to hear from you again, Aidan.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Hello!

I thought you were familiar somehow. I am Minerva, better known as The Liberated Territories (on the forums).

Libertatem has an interesting political structure, despite myself not being too big into law as much as I am into pure political theory.

I too, hail from the bluest parts of the East Coast and I am more or less more liberal with social issues than many people (although I am not an anarchist) to the point where I identify more of a classical liberal than the modern interpretation of a libertarian as either a Paulite or hardcore Rothbardian. That being said, I equally dislike the label of liberal being equated with "left wing" and social liberalism and will identify libertarian in the Anglosphere since it's easier. I prefer economists like Hayek and politicians like Mike Gravel (look him up, I'd think you'd like him).

Otherwise, I'd hope you find a good home here.

After reading Gravel's political position page on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Mike_Gravel), I would say his positions fall pretty much in line with my own. I think I've read about him before, but forgot his name. Thanks for pointing him out. It is great to find a like-minded individual like your self.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Glad to hear from you again, Aidan.

Good to hear from you, too. Anyways, thanks for your welcome, Minerva and CI.

Apologies in advance if I not very active. The pile of schoolwork and homework never ends...ugh...

Np.

Speaking of which, I have two essays to complete in one day. Think I can do it?

You probably could. It would depend on how long they need to be (factoring in spacing), whether or not you have a potential idea of what to write about, your understanding of the subject matter, and the amount of your other assignments

I hate the assignment so much. Ewg, poetry.

I probably will make the point size 12.05. Muahahahahahahaha teacher will never tell

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I hate the assignment so much. Ewg, poetry.

I probably will make the point size 12.05. Muahahahahahahaha teacher will never tell

I tried that. I failed the course.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Np.

Speaking of which, I have two essays to complete in one day. Think I can do it?

I've done it. So can you. Just forget about sleeping.

On a side note, what do y'all think about land tax? [B]Hell Yeah![/B] or [B]Heck Nah![/B]?

I like it a little. Evens out the playing field for us non-landowning folks and makes sure those landowning folks don't do crazy things.

*whistles innocently*

North Korea-Chan wrote:*whistles innocently*

Welcome back. What were you doing in Nugut, hmm? Planning a TBR raid against us? :p

The Ilerminaty wrote:I tried that. I failed the course.

I've done it. So can you. Just forget about sleeping.

12.01?

The Ilerminaty wrote:On a side note, what do y'all think about land tax? [B]Hell Yeah![/B] or [B]Heck Nah![/B]?

I like it a little. Evens out the playing field for us non-landowning folks and makes sure those landowning folks don't do crazy things.

I think it's a little more justified than most taxes, but I'd still prefer no taxes as idealistic as I am.

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