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Yelsim wrote:jokes about despicable people who slaughtered millions of animals, intentionally starving their neighbors: unforgivable

jokes about the deadliest terrorist attack on American soil which served as the impetus for new imperialist wars: barrels of laughs

You misunderstand what that joke is mocking.

Miencraft, Muh Roads, Condealism

To the Office of Internal Affairs. Miencraft

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vjv-LjrcVlgSfjuPAt2DpYXau8uLY9cpS4mQDXrXhxw/edit?usp=sharing

Miencraft

Yelsim wrote:jokes about despicable people who slaughtered millions of animals, intentionally starving their neighbors: unforgivable

jokes about the deadliest terrorist attack on American soil which served as the impetus for new imperialist wars: barrels of laughs

The jokes are mocking people who say that 9/11 was an inside job, not 9/11 itself. We're making fun of 9/11 deniers.

Muh Roads

http://orig05.deviantart.net/eea7/f/2012/191/1/b/che_meme_by_bluephoenixx-d56rmfh.jpg

http://m.quickmeme.com/img/9e/9e5cce88f8ff2c316081027d61026e08a013b4f3f48a6ce7c5f686107fca2a9a.jpg

Humpheria

Humpheria wrote:To the Office of Internal Affairs. Miencraft

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vjv-LjrcVlgSfjuPAt2DpYXau8uLY9cpS4mQDXrXhxw/edit?usp=sharing

I also point out that while the test is not mandatory for those who already hold citizenship, it's totally possible to do so.

So, if anyone feels like doing it, you should.

Pevvania wrote:Thanks, I gotta admit that I'm excited. I have to primarily interact with constituents, and I'm not looking forward to verbally defending the government's £9 "living wage".

Remember, pick your battles.

The DRP and the POG are in a coalition, and I will be running as Kings Island's running mate.

Kings Island, The American Empire In Libertatem

Also, leaving for vacation tomorrow morning, but I should still be able to do everything since I'll have a computer and my external drive.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:The DRP and the POG are in a coalition, and I will be running as Kings Island's running mate.

Great! Best of luck Mr. Manager.

Miencraft wrote:I also point out that while the test is not mandatory for those who already hold citizenship, it's totally possible to do so.

So, if anyone feels like doing it, you should.

Interesting. As leader of POG, I fully support these measures. For the Legislative Assembly I propose to be successfull, all citizens must understand the laws of this region; and I am no exception.

It is my belief that all men ought to be equal under the law. I wish to take this exam, and I encourage all citizens to do the same. Further, it is my belief that current citizens should not be grandfathered in at all; we all ought to be knowledgeable of this region's laws.

Miencraft

My endorsement does not mean anything but; I endorse the Kings Island/Minerva ticket!

Republic Of Minerva, Humpheria

Let it be known that the Conservative Mormon endorses the Catholic and the Anti-Theistic Homosexual.

Muh Roads, Condealism, Midland County

The New United States wrote:Let it be known that the Conservative Mormon endorses the Catholic and the Anti-Theistic Homosexual.

I literally have not laughed out loud so loudly in a long time.

Miencraft, Kings Island, Muh Roads, Condealism, Midland County

The New United States wrote:Let it be known that the Conservative Mormon endorses the Catholic and the Anti-Theistic Homosexual.

To be clear, if elected, Libertatem will not be run by the Vatican. I can't speak for my running mate, but I'm sure he doesn't have Satan on speed dial.

Miencraft, The New United States, Midland County

TNUS has really been growing on me lately

Midland County wrote:TNUS has really been growing on me lately

Same.

Still don't understand why my sexuality is politically relevant, alright.

Humpheria wrote:To be clear, if elected, Libertatem will not be run by the Vatican. I can't speak for my running mate, but I'm sure he doesn't have Satan on speed dial.

Ehh... Don't be so sure.

Humpheria proposed Cabinet.

Vice President: Hallo Island

Interior: Open

State: Muh Roads

War: Pevvania

Attorney General: Right-winged nation

Chief of Staff (unofficial): Open

Humpheria For Libertatem wrote:Humpheria proposed Cabinet.

Vice President: Hallo Island

Interior: Open

State: Muh Roads

War: Pevvania

Attorney General: Right-winged nation

Chief of Staff (unofficial): Open

Heyheyhey It's Midland County

Hallo Island wrote:Still don't understand why my sexuality is politically relevant, alright.Ehh... Don't be so sure.

*facepalm*

Humpheria wrote:*facepalm*

You do you, but keep those phone calls off the office phones. They do have recorders.

Vote for me and I'll give you free sh!t

^most effective campaign ever. We got this in the bag, KI

Tyrinth, The American Empire In Libertatem

Humpheria wrote:You do you, but keep those phone calls off the office phones. They do have recorders.

Things I should have known months ago...

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Vote for me and I'll give you free sh!t

^most effective campaign ever. We got this in the bag, KI

Communist!!

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Vote for me and I'll give you free sh!t

^most effective campaign ever. We got this in the bag, KI

If you look to the left, you will see my opponent, who happens to champion professionalism.

Humpheria wrote:If you look to the left, you will see my opponent, who happens to champion professionalism.

And communism. Vote Humph/Hallo 2015!

Humpheria wrote:You do you, but keep those phone calls off the office phones. They do have recorders.

The gay calls or the Satanic ones? What about the gay Satanic ones? Speaking of, I'm going on a brunch date with good ole Luci on Tuesday. Somebody have my secretary reschedule my appointments from 11am-1pm on Tuesday.

A vote for KI/Minerva is a vote for:

-Fairness

-Democracy

-Self Government

-The People

We will reform and restore the values of liberty and democracy, and we will challenge the cult of the RLP thru our coalition of third parties and independents.

The American Empire In Libertatem

Republic Of Minerva wrote:A vote for KI/Minerva is a vote for:

-Fairness

-Democracy

-Self Government

-The People

We will reform and restore the values of liberty and democracy, and we will challenge the cult of the RLP thru our coalition of third parties and independents.

Fact: Calling your opponents a cult makes you look like a fearmongering wang.

Hallo Island

Midland County wrote:Fact: Calling your opponents a cult makes you look like a fearmongering wang.

"We, the Libertarian Party, challenge the cult of the omnipotent state...,"

oops

Republic Of Minerva wrote:A vote for KI/Minerva is a vote for:

-Fairness

-Democracy

-Self Government

-The People

We will reform and restore the values of liberty and democracy, and we will challenge the cult of the RLP thru our coalition of third parties and independents.

Good sir, we are not a cult, more like a vicious mob that seeks murders and destroys

Humpheria wrote:Great! Best of luck Mr. Manager.

Well, "manager." We just say "manager." And you can hire an employee if you need one.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:A vote for KI/Minerva is a vote for:

-Fairness

-Democracy

-Self Government

-The People

We will reform and restore the values of liberty and democracy, and we will challenge the cult of the RLP thru our coalition of third parties and independents.

There is no "cult of the RLP". There is only a well-meaning party whose policies need improvement.

Yelsim wrote:Well, "manager." We just say "manager." And you can hire an employee if you need one.

His title is Manager of State, sir.

Added Subsection IV to The TABLOID Act. Thoughts, y'all?

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_new_united_states/detail=factbook/id=452941

The New United States wrote:Added Subsection IV to The TABLOID Act. Thoughts, y'all?

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_new_united_states/detail=factbook/id=452941

The New United States wrote:Added Subsection IV to The TABLOID Act. Thoughts, y'all?

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_new_united_states/detail=factbook/id=452941

Yay

The only cult in this region is The Holy Church of Roads.

Muh Roads

Humpheria wrote:His title is Manager of State, sir.

It's from Arrested Development.

The New United States wrote:Added Subsection IV to The TABLOID Act. Thoughts, y'all?

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_new_united_states/detail=factbook/id=452941

Excellent.

Humpheria

There will be no more raiding.

I refuse to participate into any gameplay until the following conditions are met:

1.) The war is abandoned

2.) The old flag is restored

3.) There is a reform of the political system

That's too bad, Minerva. We'll miss you.

Yes, let's see if the military can work without me. Let's see where this shall go, hmm?

You'd be doing them a favor.

Look, I admire your idealism, but you're not John Galt - unfortunate as it might be, we can get by just fine without your involvement. And even if that weren't true, what would you expect us to do? Subvert the democratic process so that you'll get your way? Think this through.

Miencraft, Kings Island, Humpheria, Muh Roads

I'm sorry for my harshness, but it needs to be said. You're not scaring anyone.

Though I disagree with a few aspects of what our region is doing, I trust in our republican system - we need people like you to keep the potential for corruption in check the responsible way; threatening to put democracy in a chokehold isn't going to accomplish that.

Humpheria, Muh Roads

Condealism wrote:You'd be doing them a favor.

Look, I admire your idealism, but you're not John Galt - unfortunate as it might be, we can get by just fine without your involvement. And even if that weren't true, what would you expect us to do? Subvert the democratic process so that you'll get your way? Think this through.

Okay then, show me.

You know, it was I who originally had the idea to raid CAPS, even when Pev's mind was on other matters, and it was I who led the month long operation as "Gorilla Warfare." And International Socialists, I invaded that too as a group of "defenders" secretly going in without even a bat of the eye except a bit from North Korea, somehwere. Something which I failed to replicate under the fall of CC.

I had failed to intercept or connect Wabash at first, if that wasn't true, I am certain there would of been more victories under our belt since December - such as CC and TICU. Do you know why I gave the password to the fascists? Tactics my dear Condealism - I hoped the Security Council would liberate the region once again (after the fash reinvaded) so that I could return from it for a third time, but the delegate had seemingly gotten on before the next update, ruining my plan. You know I had a puppet there longer than the fascists had, and CTEd so I could get the password again. It was so stupidly genius if it wasn't for a few unfortunate things.

So, see if you can do better than I had. See if you don't do the same mistakes. I'll be watching.

Waiting for reform is not going to change anything. I left the region for months and nothing changed. Granted you are more important to the region then I am but I doubt that anything will change if we don't stay and fight for what we believe in.

Condealism wrote:I'm sorry for my harshness, but it needs to be said. You're not scaring anyone.

Though I disagree with a few aspects of what our region is doing, I trust in our republican system - we need people like you to keep the potential for corruption in check the responsible way; threatening to put democracy in a chokehold isn't going to accomplish that.

And I am sorry for missing this post.

What democracy? There is no democracy here. There is just a board that does everything in private, reversing things like the flag which won by popular mandate. And you know, before a couple days ago I actually had the idea to telegram the government with a compromise on the flag - a snake wrapped around a torch, customly made to the specfications that Pev and I would agree on. But nah, this thing happened.

The American Empire In Libertatem

Minerva Diplomat wrote:There will be no more raiding.

I refuse to participate into any gameplay until the following conditions are met:

1.) The war is abandoned

2.) The old flag is restored

3.) There is a reform of the political system

The only person you are hurting is yourself. At best your inconveniencing a few others. This overreaction is not how to handle disagreement.

Condealism

Your command of our military was logistically impressive, and your strategies were inventive, but your words betray what we both know to be true: Your devious tactics failed you, and your inability to deal with the spy resulted in our military's ruin. I know you to be a strong team player - you've probably accomplished more for us than I have - but you're just not indispensable.

If you're giving up because you're too tired to carry on the fight, fine. You're not the only one who feels that way. I'll even propose a holiday in your honor, and your actions will be remembered.

But if you're giving up because you don't respect the decisions made by the good people of this republic, and expect us to come crawling back to you after you've left us to our usual business, you can save your breath - go manipulate someone else.

Miencraft

Minerva Diplomat wrote:And I am sorry for missing this post.

What democracy? There is no democracy here. There is just a board that does everything in private, reversing things like the flag which won by popular mandate. And you know, before a couple days ago I actually had the idea to telegram the government with a compromise on the flag - a snake wrapped around a torch, customly made to the specfications that Pev and I would agree on. But nah, this thing happened.

Minerva you've done a lot for the region. It's a shame that you are forgetting all of that over a little picture in the corner of a webpage, but you seem to think this is effecting people more than it is.

Miencraft, Condealism

Minerva Diplomat wrote:And I am sorry for missing this post.

What democracy? There is no democracy here. There is just a board that does everything in private, reversing things like the flag which won by popular mandate. And you know, before a couple days ago I actually had the idea to telegram the government with a compromise on the flag - a snake wrapped around a torch, customly made to the specfications that Pev and I would agree on. But nah, this thing happened.

What compromise? I was aware of no such compromise.

As for democracy, you have to remember that you don't outnumber anyone - only Amar and maybe Kings think that such drastic reform is necessary. The rest of us stand with the RLP, and the majority rules... for instance, it even recently ruled in favor of an initiative that would force the Board to make ALL decisions public. It was only vetoed so that it could be rewritten with ARMA in mind. Trust us - we know what we're doing. (Or don't trust us, and see if you can convince others to agree.)

Humpheria wrote:Minerva you've done a lot for the region. It's a shame that you are forgetting all of that over a little picture in the corner of a webpage, but you seem to think this is effecting people more than it is.

The flag is inconsequential compared to the corruption of the government. I would accept it if the terms were popularly negotiated on, and referendum was binding.

Condealism wrote:What compromise? I was aware of no such compromise.

As for democracy, you have to remember that you don't outnumber anyone - only Amar and maybe Kings think that such drastic reform is necessary. The rest of us stand with the RLP, and the majority rules... for instance, it even recently ruled in favor of an initiative that would force the Board to make ALL decisions public. It was only vetoed so that it could be rewritten with ARMA in mind. Trust us - we know what we're doing. (Or don't trust us, and see if you can convince others to agree.)

I do not trust you as much as I want. I am done here.

Again, sorry to see you go. Maybe you'll find a less "corrupt" community to be a part of.

Now, then, members of the Board... if I could turn your attention to October 13. If my calculations are correct, that's the day the occupation of CAPS began - I believe we should consider making it a regional holiday to commemorate Minerva's past achievements, which included the two operations that crippled The Red Fleet.

Oh wait, the Board handles observances, not the actual creation of holidays. (Which might be more fitting anyway.)

President Roads, would you approve the creation of such an event?

Hey why is the flag of our region anti-communist??

Can't we provide a more positive flag, with suggesting something than suggesting not to do something.

Hallo Island, Midland County, The American Empire In Libertatem

Condealism wrote:Oh wait, the Board handles observances, not the actual creation of holidays. (Which might be more fitting anyway.)

President Roads, would you approve the creation of such an event?

Absolutely, I'll get something going later on.

International Union For Peace wrote:Hey why is the flag of our region anti-communist??

Can't we provide a more positive flag, with suggesting something than suggesting not to do something.

That is the original flag of Libertatem, and yes it very well can be changed. A new one has to be presented to the board.

I could change it, but I personally don't see the point.

So I will be on a train for a few hours, check on stuff later. Seems like a lot happened.

Minerva Diplomat wrote:And I am sorry for missing this post.

What democracy? There is no democracy here. There is just a board that does everything in private, reversing things like the flag which won by popular mandate. And you know, before a couple days ago I actually had the idea to telegram the government with a compromise on the flag - a snake wrapped around a torch, customly made to the specfications that Pev and I would agree on. But nah, this thing happened.

To be fair I'm not a fan of the situation with the flag either.

The American Empire In Libertatem

We needed a new head of the state department anyways. Can't really said he did anything there.

Also, I'm kinda unhappy about the TABLOID act.

It just buries the board's power in bureaucratic restrictions and slows the legislative branch to a crawl.

Hallo Island wrote:We needed a new head of the state department anyways. Can't really said he did anything there.

Also, I'm kinda unhappy about the TABLOID act.

It just buries the board's power in bureaucratic restrictions and slows the legislative branch to a crawl.

They're only restrictive if you think that the Board should just blindly vote on anything that comes to the table, without even having any proper discussion.

The speed of the legislative branch is pointless if they're not even thoroughly examining what they are voting on.

Condealism wrote:Oh wait, the Board handles observances, not the actual creation of holidays. (Which might be more fitting anyway.)

President Roads, would you approve the creation of such an event?

Do I get a holiday if I throw a hissy fit and leave too?

Many have thrown a fit and have left. Usually those people including myself come back eventually. A great man once telegramed me that Libertatem is like a drug.

The American Empire In Libertatem wrote:Many have thrown a fit and have left. Usually those people including myself come back eventually. A great man once telegramed me that Libertatem is like a drug.

It is pretty great. We have the most active rmb like, ever.

In light of several recent statements which do not reflect the views of the Party for Open Governance, I regretfully terminate the alliance with the Democratic Republican Party, and I name The American Empire as my running mate.

The RLP has transformed this region from an empire to a democracy. It is not a cult; nor is it undemocratic. It simply advocates for some outdated policies. POG represents civility and compromise, qualities which I now realize the Democratic Reform Party does not.

So, now that Minerva's thrown a hissy fit and left, when will the new State Manager be announced?

Kings Island wrote:In light of several recent statements which do not reflect the views of the Party for Open Governance, I regretfully terminate the alliance with the Democratic Republican Party, and I name The American Empire as my running mate.

The RLP has transformed this region from an empire to a democracy. It is not a cult; nor is it undemocratic. It simply advocates for some outdated policies. POG represents civility and compromise, qualities which I now realize the Democratic Reform Party does not.

I will be your running mate, but i will stand aside for Minerva once he cools down,comes back,and realizes that he acted too rashly.

Kings Island wrote:In light of several recent statements which do not reflect the views of the Party for Open Governance, I regretfully terminate the alliance with the Democratic Republican Party, and I name The American Empire as my running mate.

The RLP has transformed this region from an empire to a democracy. It is not a cult; nor is it undemocratic. It simply advocates for some outdated policies. POG represents civility and compromise, qualities which I now realize the Democratic Reform Party does not.

You and your party would be really neat if it weren't for all that funky direct democracy stuff.

The American Empire In Libertatem wrote:I will be your running mate, but i will stand aside for Minerva once he cools down,comes back,and realizes that he acted too rashly.

Regardless of if he comes back, Minerva will not be my running mate.

Midland County wrote:You and your party would be really neat if it weren't for all that funky direct democracy stuff.

Well, that is half of our platform. Regional participation is good. It makes things interesting, and encourages people to move here.

Kings Island wrote:Well, that is half of our platform. Regional participation is good. It makes things interesting, and encourages people to move here.

I get it, and I'd really like to work on some sort of reform for the House, but I don't think complete overhaul is the way to go.

So, the board passed this.

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=hallo_island/detail=factbook/id=446314

Whoever ends up Manager of State should abide by that.

Also someone put that in our laws.

Well, as soon as Roads signs it.

Also we passed an observance on June 26th for marriage equality. Do with that information as you will.

Condealism, The American Empire In Libertatem

Kings Island wrote:Regardless of if he comes back, Minerva will not be my running mate.

*whispers* I always thought he was kind of a lunatic

This is probably for the best... The state department never seemed particularly active under Minerva.

Midland County wrote:*whispers* I always thought he was kind of a lunatic

Regardless, he doesn't share my policies and was isolating voters.

Hallo Island wrote:So, the board passed this.

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=hallo_island/detail=factbook/id=446314

Whoever ends up Manager of State should abide by that.

Also someone put that in our laws.

Well, as soon as Roads signs it.

Also we passed an observance on June 26th for marriage equality. Do with that information as you will.

Eh, not bad. *draws smiley face on bill*

okay, seriously signed.

Hallo Island wrote:So, the board passed this.

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=hallo_island/detail=factbook/id=446314

Whoever ends up Manager of State should abide by that.

Also someone put that in our laws.

Well, as soon as Roads signs it.

Also we passed an observance on June 26th for marriage equality. Do with that information as you will.

There's a comma splice in that bill, yo. Maybe that's why Roads didn't sign it.

Anyone actually want to be manager of state?

Midland County wrote:There's a comma splice in that bill, yo. Maybe that's why Roads didn't sign it.

Haha, I can fix it under EDIT.

Muh Roads wrote:Eh, not bad. *draws smiley face on bill*

okay, seriously signed.

Midland County wrote:There's a comma splice in that bill, yo. Maybe that's why Roads didn't sign it.

You were saying?

Post self-deleted by Muh Roads.

Muh Roads wrote:Eh, not bad. *draws smiley face on bill*

okay, seriously signed.

THERE IS NOW OFFICIALLY A GRAMMATICAL ERROR IN OUR LAW. I AM LEAVING (MINERVA STYLE) IF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS AREN'T MET.

1. Remove the comma

Tyrinth, Kings Island

Muh Roads wrote:Anyone actually want to be manager of state?

*meekly raises hand while trying not to sound braggarty*

Muh Roads wrote:Anyone actually want to be manager of state?

It would be tempting to be in the Roads cabinet; but fortunately for you i pass.

Muh Roads wrote:Anyone actually want to be manager of state?

Of course. I would love to, but I think there's someone more qualified than myself.

Midland County wrote:There's a comma splice in that bill, yo. Maybe that's why Roads didn't sign it.

Not surprising, I wrote it at like 1am.

Hallo Island wrote:Not surprising, I wrote it at like 1am.

I think I remember yelling at you to go to sleep at 1am

Hey so American Empire wants to submit this as a flag. So, board, thoughts?

http://s284.photobucket.com/user/Bohleycgop/media/libertatem__909713_zpswlvmwgdk.png.html?sort=3&o=2

Hallo Island wrote:Hey so American Empire wants to submit this as a flag. So, board, thoughts?

http://s284.photobucket.com/user/Bohleycgop/media/libertatem__909713_zpswlvmwgdk.png.html?sort=3&o=2

eh

Yeah, it's honestly awful.

Hallo Island wrote:Hey so American Empire wants to submit this as a flag. So, board, thoughts?

http://s284.photobucket.com/user/Bohleycgop/media/libertatem__909713_zpswlvmwgdk.png.html?sort=3&o=2

Definitely not.

Midland County wrote:*meekly raises hand while trying not to sound braggarty*

Jobs yours.

Kings Island wrote:Of course. I would love to, but I think there's someone more qualified than myself.

I did honestly consider it. I think you have a lot of great potential.

Muh Roads wrote:

I did honestly consider it. I think you have a lot of great potential.

Thank you, muh president.

Muh Roads wrote:Jobs yours.

Oh. That was unexpected. I'll try my best.

Midland County wrote:Oh. That was unexpected. I'll try my best.

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=hallo_island/detail=factbook/id=446314

CONFORM!!!

Midland County wrote:Oh. That was unexpected. I'll try my best.

Good luck, Midland!

Hallo Island wrote:http://www.nationstates.net/nation=hallo_island/detail=factbook/id=446314

CONFORM!!!

I bet it will be easier to do so since we live in the same house and you can verbally b!tch at me.

Kings Island wrote:Good luck, Midland!

Thanks

It looks like Minerva literally did nothing for his office of Manager of State. I'll have a factbook up today.

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