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Region: Libertatem
*nervous chuckles*
Oh, Minerva you merry prankster, you sure know how to get those new guys.
*angry whispers*
You know we don't talk about that on the rmb, you dumb sonofabitch! We can't let them know!
WEEWOO WEEWOO
INCORRECT USAGE OF "WHOM"
KILL THE INFIDEL
How so?
"If you could accurately inform their government of the current talks amongst our currently active and formalized government, specially in regards to regional security, I feel that will help the situation even more."
-Cylthropia
Goodnight.
Night Humpy
Hello Libertatem,
As this nation's name implies, I am the Minister of Security for the Federation of Free States, the Republic of Wreptzle. There has been rumor that some of you here believe that the FFS is rapidly collapsing on itself, I am here to assure you all that such is not the case.
As you all know, mods deleted our founder, leaving us founder-less. We are currently discussing plans in order to resolve this issue. Due to the importance of the issue, there has been much debate as to what is to be done. Unfortunately, many of our elected officials are present very little, prompting criticism and confusion. While these are certainty important issues, they will not cause regional collapse. The Federation is a very tight-knit community and we've always had arguments between each other. It's nothing new to us and is quite common place. I suppose you could say we all have a love-hate relationship. But for certain, it is no "madhouse" as has been stated. This has likely been the most civil major argument in FFS history. I'm actually quite impressed with how nice everyone is becoming and believe that it'll only get better. Any veteran of the Pxoria v. Beastland wars and they'll tell you the same thing.
Claims of "rupturing at the seems" and "[the FFS] will fragment in a matter of days" are grossly exaggerated. With all respect intended, I believe that you greatly underestimate us. The calls to end relations with the FFS because of this is quite insulting. If such minor issues as these could tear the Federation apart, then we would have died long ago. While it is true that our population is slowly declining, such is to be expected when we are forced to lock the region. Reports of members leaving every day clearly use inflated statistics as the regional population count has remained fairly even since we lost our founder with only small declines when stagnant nations were lost or in the few cases like today.
Despite all of our issues from the inquisition of the mods, foreign threats, and domestic disturbances, we remain united and will always be united. We will not falter, we will only grow stronger. We have long stood with Libertatem and ask that you too stand by us.
I apologize fr a mediocre speech on such an important issue, I've been working on Security reforms for the past 6 hours. I will keep this puppet in Libertatem until it is needed elsewhere and will respond to any questions anyone asks.
Thank you, and goodnight.
Goodnight mate.
*black jumpsuit equipped men break through the roof and detain the infidel*
Was this on behalf of your Minster of Foreign Affairs or your own venture? Is this how the diplomacy of the FFS works? I'm confused. .-.
That's adorable.
I will temporarily be leaving this region, please contact me via TG if you have any questions.
Our Minister of Foreign affairs is busy right now. Nonetheless, I believed that a speech about regional security is best given by the Minister of Security himself.
In the FFS they're talking about banning me and N. Prussia from re-gaining membership and whatnot. Do they honestly think it matters to us, gaining membership for a region that we do not want to be in?
They include that in a clause that could be better used for repairing their broken government.
Banning us is just another testament to their oppressive policies.
I find those moments funny.
Busy, busy, busy.
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120724075233/christmasspecials/images/3/33/Professorhinkle.jpg
Banning=Oppression.
Got that everyone?
Tis tis... We were pioneers of the FFS and long standing members of the IRU. They lost their way and we could do nothing to help. Every complaint as a citizen was thrown away and was treated as being a terrorist. I myself condemn the FFS.
They've banned me before. I was actually the first person banned from the FFS. It was ridiculous why I was banned in the first place. They're very petty over there.
Eh, they're quite oppressive at times. Voicing your opinion is a hard thing to do.
That's great and all, but are we about to throw a "hate on FFS" party in the middle of the Libertatem RMB? :P
That's exactly what we're doing. N. Prussia and I didn't do anything wrong. We just left the show at our own will, politely resigning too! We didn't do a single thing to them and they call us "traitors" and are trying to ban us. They deserve my condemnation now.
Na I just wanted that off my chest
Ok then we will oppress TTA.
I know. Some regions do that frequently
I was about to leave, but then:
This is outright disrespectful and untruthful. Regardless of your opinion of those in the FFS, I take personal offense for your attitude, especially after sticking my neck out for you. I was hoping to remain on good terms with you despite all this, but now I'm not so sure. I'm going to continue trying to keep them from banning you and Prussia, but I will not be successful if you do not at least try to remain civil.
If you excuse me, I am now late for my flight.
What were you banned for.
I once called a region fascist and left. That made them begin discussing banishing me.
What region was that TTA :)
I can't seem to remember. Started with an "L"
Latter Day Saints?
I was banned for no reason, quite frankly. I was the scapegoat for the destruction of the IRU. It was the founder's fault, who abandoned the region and gave it away to another leader, but the masses blamed me for it. Liberosia actually inherited the region. The FFS has had this who "anti-Liberatem" attitude about them ever since then. It's all very obstinate.
.....No.
Ahhh.
Also I dont believe that is the reason that region wants to ban you. Maybe its because they gave you many chances and you constantly betray them.
I never betrayed the region.
Defending a small region was all I ever did against the large region.
If you're referring to me, then no. I've never betrayed the FFS. If their definition of betrayal is legally emigrating from the region, then they need to delete that feature.
http://goo.gl/NkRmv7
No. He's referring to me.
I've been referencing this region and he's been referencing me.
Goodnight
The falcon cannot hear the falconer.
Tta its Sunday your exile is up.
.....Oh yah it is...
Okay peace.
Arsonists are surprisingly nimble.
The ceremony of innocence is drowned.
Beartraps are frequently used in elections.
Is it mean that I remembered when he could go back to his region?
42.
Vierundzwanzig.
[B]***MILITARY NOTICE***[/B]
If you have not signed up for the military, I strongly urge you to do so! Signing up means that you'll be eligible to receive telegrams to participate in private military matters, such as raids and defense based operations. You must be a citizen in order to participate, with a few exceptions.
I shall begin constructing public parts of the Libertatem Military into my factbook.
Is the hivemind in the military?
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/1673981/victory-o.gif
No way. The FFS are one of our oldest allies, and while they haven't always been completely reliable, they share our values. They've stood by us many a time, and now in their darkest hour I don't think it's honourable to abandon them.
You've betrayed the region numerous times. Many of us still are discussing banning you, and I've been your chief defender against certain others who wish to see you banished from this region. They've made arguments against you based on your utter lack of respect for our laws and insufferable arrogance. I have protested that to ban you for this would be to violate the Free Speech Clause of the Bill of Rights.
I no longer have any sympathy for you. I am hereby revoking the Presidential Pardon I issued to [nation=short]The Time Alliance[/nation] in regard to his attack on Libertatem troops in Communist Beach. Should anyone decide to do so, they may now press charges.
Mine continue to stand for the AG to accept.
And I'll add his CB involvement on.
I feel it necessary to apologize for restoring his citizenship after CB. I assure you all that will not happen again.
Don't worry about it. Many of us were in the mood to give everyone a second chance, and this was before TTA showed his true colours.
Here's the first draft of the COURT Act.
Tell me what you think.
The COURT Act
Codifying Overt Utilities of Regional Tribunals Act
Section I
Purpose of the act
To clearly define the powers of the Attorney-General and the region's court system.
Section II
The High Court
The Libertatem judicial system is to be composed of a single court: the High Court.
The High Court shall address criminal matters as defined by legislation.
Court cases shall be addressed by a judge, who shall be appointed by the Chairman of the Board, and a jury of 6 that is to be randomly selected by the President.
The jury and judge shall preside over the arguments of both legal teams, and when these are concluded, the former shall decide whether the defendant is guilty or not guilty, and the latter shall decide what sentence the defendant shall receive if they are guilty.
Section III
Stucture of court cases
In each criminal court case, which will be openly presented on the RMB, there will be two legal teams: the defense and the prosecution.
The defendant shall be represented by a legal defense of his or her choice, which includes whether they wish to defend themselves.
The defendant has the right not to attend their trial, in which case they would be tried in absentia.
The prosecution will be composed of the nation pressing charges against the defendant, or anyone else they delegate this authority to.
The prosecution may drop their charges against the defendant at any time, at which point the court case will end.
A court case begins with each legal team presenting their opening statement, after which each will take turns to demonstrate their arguments, which will end with a closing statement.
The jury shall then deliberate in private and consider the arguments in deciding whether the defendant is guilty or not guilty.
A unanimous result must be achieved, but the judge may accept a 5-1 ruling otherwise.
If the defendant is guilty, the judge may choose the sentence, which is to be enforced by the President.
Section IV
In occasions when regional security is threatened
In the case of invasion or other instance when regional security is under imminent threat, the President may be granted executive power to defend against attack, and may use any tools at his or her disposal to do so.
Non-imminent security threats can be ejected via majority Board vote and Presidential approval.
Section V
Other powers
The President may be granted the power by this Act to create a civil court for the region, should the need arise.
The President may be granted the power to compile a list of criminal offences. The Board may challenge any one of these offences with a super-majority vote.
Authored by Pevvania.
As an undergraduate law student, I can attest that were this real life, that would be known as a sound case. I vote Yea on the COURT Act. Thank you, Mr. President.
I'm not putting this to vote yet, it's just in 'committee' stage right now. I want to make sure everyone is happy with the bill before I put it to vote.
I am studying law at college. I thought it would be something I'd enjoy. I was wrong.
I vote yea.
Then I retract. I like it.
Two suggestions to be discussed:
Make a notice to appear (subpoena?) Mandatory for all parties involved. This way, you can't be tried in secrecy.
Let the manager of internal affairs handle criminal records (section v). It goes along with the citizens register. Crimes should be held in public record.
Otherwise, solid bill.
Oh, and maybe we need definitions for crime and consequences, or maybe I'm thinking to deep into this.
There we go, NS is back up!
It mandates that all trials are done openly on the RMB, but I'm opposed to making it compulsory for the defendant to represent themselves. However, they'd be notified at all major points in the trial and would be allowed to represent themselves at any time.
Ok, I'll add that bit.
I thought something was wrong with my server.
I have returned to feast on your souls.
Nope, it was down for everyone for over 5 hours. http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/nationstates.net.html
I thought something was wrong with my connection. I guess even NationStates has to update every now and then.
I support Muh's ideas
Post self-deleted by Rotgeheim.
Well, friends, I've applied to become a citizen of Libertatem.
See The FRAUD Act. To be a citizen you need to have resided in Libertatem for at least ten days. You don't have to supply the location of your WA account, but you do if you are in a government position.
You've resided for well over ten days in total, so you're eligible.
I didn't know if it was ten consecutive days or not, so that's why I was asking for help. But I've got it all sorted out now. Thanks much.
Cool. What are your thoughts on the COURT Act?
Now I am a full-fledged member of Libertatem! Hooray!
Everyone receives a pint of the finest beer from the Mohnke Brewery!
I like every bit of it except the clause under Section II that grants a random panel of 6 to be selected. The only worry I have is that these random 6 could be chosen purposely to ensure a particular sentence is carried out. However unlikely it may be, it's still a worry. Maybe a way to double-check those selected few could be implemented.
Other than that tiny bit, it's great. I'd vote for it.
I looked at the map. How does one claim land on it?
If I'd be allowed to, I'd like to lay claim to all of Scandinavia and the Faroe Islands.
Now that President Pev has revoked the pardon of TTA, I hereby press charges against TTA.
Under our current laws, the Board shall wait for evidence, if any, from either side before voting.
Oceania is mine!
We're still awaiting map reform. Nobody has stepped forward to create a new, updated map.
I second this concern. What if citizens were assigned a number when they received their citizenship and the choice was made through an online numbers generator? That might be a bit awkward to word in, but in practice it could erase the possibility of a (purposefully) biased jury
I like that idea. That's great! It'd eliminate the possibility of corruption at the judicial level.
Woooooooooo
I like it! Citizens already have a number too! (2-20)
I have an idea for map reform:
I will take requests for what you want your nation to look like. Here is the form:
1. What do you want your nation on the map to look like?
2. Where on the map do you want your nation? (North, Southwest, Center, etc.)
And that is my proposal for map reform.
A large peninsula southwest .
Covered in roads. xD
A nation far north, covered by ice and snow, preferably in the shape of Scandinavia.
A large atoll, slightly south of the equator.
I am everywhere
Central area, such as Europe. Large france-looking region
Yay 3rd
I would like Northern Germany, Denmark, and parts of Netherlands and poland.
God forbid Prussia be in Prussia.
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