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Region: Libertatem
Silence is golden.
Sorry i have been sleeping all day.
Ive been outside all day
Hello, everyone! I came here to debate and discuss, but looks like I've been banned from my previous region, so this might become a long-term stay.
Oh noes!
Well, welcome to Libertatem. Debating is good. I like debating.
Yeah.
You stay long time. Ugh.
Not very welcoming of others' oppinions and ideas...
Why were you banned? (If you don't mind me asking)
*Shines flashlight*
Are you a communist?
*gasp*
Are you or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party? - Joesph McCarthy
No. I once thought I was a Democrat through.
An easy mistake, one that so many Americans make.
Democrats are just Closet Socialists/Communists.
Wow guys that's a stretch. I mean, I'm a Republican and all but you could also argue Republicans are closet Fascists and Totalitarians.
I have also been very busy today so that's why I have been inactive. It was just so nice out today.
No. Democrats are Left-Centre.
I am not apart of any "Communist" Party. But to answer the question of many, I am indeed a Communist.
I'd say quite the opposite. American Democrats are no where close to Socialists and definetly not anywhere close whatsoever to the educated and intellegent Communist. On the broader view of political theory that is, not what is seen by the run-of-the-mill typical patriot to the point of stupid 'Murican "conservative."
I find it more of a mistake for the future of Americans to go with a party has completly contradicted itself from the ideas of its original creator, someone who I look fondly to, Thomas Jefferson.
You came here to debate, First question is Why do you think Communism will last when Their has been no True Communist Nation in Modern History and no self claimed Communist nation has lasted for at least 100 years?
Ok first of all just to let you know you will have a very hard time in this region if you're a commie, just saying.
Second, Democrats have lots of socialist values built into theirs so that's dumb to deny that.
And Thomas Jefferson founded the Democratic-Republican Party which was a lot different than the Republican Party which didn't emerge as an actual party until 1854 which was founded on anti-slavery. And ideas change get over it.
To be fair China will probably last 100+ years at the rate it's going. Laos and Vietnam probably will too. NK will probably be completely flattened by nukes here pretty soon and Cuba will probably convert to capitalism soon.
GOP:
Ideology Conservatism (American)
Internal factions:
Fiscal conservatism
Social conservatism
Neoconservatism
Conservative populism
Libertarianism
Paleoconservatism
Democrats:
American liberalism[2][3]
Internal factions:
Progressivism
Centrism
Conservatism
Civil libertarianism
Liberal populism
The Democratic-Republican Party
Republicanism
Jeffersonian democracy
States' rights
Internal factions:
· Agrarianism
· Isolationism
· Nationalism
· Tertium quids
The Republican party was aactually formed from The American Whig Party and the Free Soil Party.
Whigs were better.
Out of those above Democratic - Republican Party was the best.
Indeed; modern Democrats hardly, if at all, reflect Jeffersonian ideals. Classical liberalism wasn't that bad, really.
2nd question to the red, do you support a total ban on guns why or why not?
I hate this question. It can easily be turned around, "well if the free market is so great why has it never been done successfully" While the historical aspects of practical application of ideology shouldn't be ignored, it would be much more beneficial if the ups and downs of an ideology were discussed in a purely hypothetical setting in which the society in question acts accordingly to the philosophy in question.
I was ok with the leftist garbage. I tolerated the nitpicking of detailed definitions. I could sympathize when you voiced an unpopular opinion. I was even lenient to call your actions treasonous, but this flag crosses the line. I'll be damned if we let pony filth infiltrate this prestigious region.
..... Okay then. Well ermm..... It's good to know this is the flag that makes me public enemy No. 1.
It's a TV Show. I'm entitled to like what I like.
You get out, and you get out now
Your a socialist. Don't you already think you are entitled to everything?
The thing that pushed lack over the edge. Ponies.
Go to ucr just get out.
Then again the pony is better then the sickle and star.
Haha....
How dare you insult the Soviet Union
...Lack I think you've lost it....
TTA, now what would your mother think if she saw you with that flag?
YOU AND YOUR PONY FILTH DID THIS TO ME!! WHY DONT YOU TAKE A MAGIC TRIP SOMEWHERE FAR AWAY WHERE YOU CAN FIND FRIENDSHIP BECAUSE YOU WON'T FIND IT HERE!
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Like in ucr
Minerva. I don't know. My parents don't know I like the TV Show. I don't know how to tell them.
Lack. Calm down Deep breaths.
I think it's time for you to come out. You just can't keep hiding it anymore.
tell them they failed
How would guys like it if I called you "capie", "pig", etc?
Lol
Idk, sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me. Ok red.
Weapons must be totally legalized except for those that are to destructive. A Frag Grenade shouldn't be legal. What are you going to use it for? Hunting? :D
Minerva I know but I don't know how they'd react.
Lack. Shush now, you need rep.
French. I'm Social Democrat.
I actually enjoy that, but hey Im sick in the head
*vomits from utter stupidity*
Yeah, hunting bronies
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Ouch. That stung.
I'm glad to see someone here who has any sanity.
No, revolution. Once the ppl are defenseless their is nothing they can do about their rights being taken away.
I personally have no problems with bronies. They're very nice people.
See French gets it.
do you even know what that word means? Look at a dictionary, then look at TTA's flag, then look back to the dictionary, then look back to TTA's flag, then look in the mirror, then look at the cyanide pills in your hand, then look at the flag one more time
No, communist hunting
.... Someone is in denial. Lack you like the show don't you?
you can leave too. First business of tomorrow, drafting an amendment to outlaw pony worship and the appreciation or tolerance of pony worship
I am indifferent. I know nice people who are fans of that show, and I've had the misfortune of meeting several as...er, jerks, who were also fans.
Regardless, there does seem to be a negative stigma against being a "brony", and proudly identifying oneself as one seems akin to painting a target on one's head. But hey, if the show's really as good as they say, more power to them.
Anyway, TTA, I think we've made it rather clear you've worn out your welcome here, and for more valid reasons than what shows you watch.
Sorry for the fowl language but: You are f*cking retarded. At least spell the word "people" instead of writing "ppl." I mean, for the love non-existant god!
"Oh noes! They took frags away! I'm defensless now."
I'm changing my vote youre done kid
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Ponies= A libertarians nightmare.
CI. We know. This isn't being discussed though.
I mean look at the sh*t you pack into Libertatems tight RMB post box holes.
Thats laziness not stupidity.
Laziness breeds stupidity.
Saved Fusionism from hell. Although since Maldo was DEATed I don't see the point anymore besides not letting these regions get into the hands of our enemies.
With due respect to both sides, resorting to ad hominem is not in the best interests of debate.
Partially right; we want you to leave, no discussion about it. You've given our region enough trouble.
It's well deserved trouble.
So people should be able to Frag Grenades? RPG's? Miniguns?
Hm... I wonder what would resort from that.
*own frag grenades
Deserved? Maybe. If anything, that's a matter of debate.
But we do not warrant it, nor are you entitled to the right to cause trouble, nor do we have to put up with it. We have presented you many opportunities to leave of your own accord whilst preserving your pride, and you were unwise not to accept them.
Me senses I'm about to be kicked out.
I can tell you exactly what the result would be (and, in many cases, is): Private militias.
Many say the United States is special, and one such reason is its (in recent times, rather dubious) protection of the right for citizens to form militias. These paramilitary units, in order to ensure the best protection of their members, would no doubt require access to at least a handful of these weapons you describe. Proposed US laws (and some passed legislature) are getting in the way of that.
While the concerns of the right wing may seem like a slippery slope fallacy, they are not entirely unfounded: governments that begin limiting access to commodities (particularly dangerous ones) tend to find it difficult to stop.
What do you think could of happened if the jews were armed just as well as the National Socialists?
What do you think would happen if a mass-murderer had Frag Grenades, an RPG, and a fully automatic M60?
If a criminal wanted those weapons badly enough to obtain them, legal or not, he would find a way of doing so. There does exist a black market, and weapons don't just go away if you criminalize them.
He would attempt to mass murder. I prefer freedom over security.
Freedom over security? A billionaire has the right to own a Missle I guess.
It's all a matter of accesibility.
Exactly, keeping them legal allows the law abiding people to defend themselves from murderers and tyrannical governments.
That last part is particularly important.
Yes, it is highly unlikely that the US Government would turn fascistic overnight. But if it did, the existence of well-armed militias would be the best means of keeping that threat at bay; heck, that's what the Founding Fathers intended them to be used for. (They didn't exactly trust governments, Britain being the case in point.)
Also, How would you have a Communist Revolution if the Workers were not as well armed as the capitalist pigs in the government and The Military?
Politically.
You can achieve a communist revolution via politics as well.
Did you care to read my point on the gun issue? NO you did not, did you? Because you act like I said "guns must be banned, all of them."
And the revolution would end as quickly as it started when the bourgeoisie pulls a gun. And, to protect their position, they totally would.
Yes you would.
Understand that there is very little discernible difference in the conservative school of thought between "ban some guns" and "ban all guns"; a government that does the first will most likely be just as quick to do the second.
Not at all true. For a society that is radically different from the existing one to come into existance you'd have to radically destroy the old to form the new.
I see..it is indeed true in fact if I remember there is a Communist ideology centered around just that.
The Government has alot of Destructive weapons. A frag granade will beat a bunch of guns any day.
So you are a firm believer Grenades should be carried around in pockets with an M60 strapped around everyones sholder?
How cute.
I know she is cute. That's why I like the show.
And you accuse us of going to extremes?
Concealed carry is another matter entirely; brandishing certain weapons could be perceived as a threat; the current system America has for concealed carry is quite decent, so remaining as is would be preferable.
As for the ownership of grenades and M60's...everyone who wants one and can afford one can have one, but those two categories are smaller than some may believe.
This is what constantly goes through your head: "TYRANNY! IT SURRONDS ME! GOVERNMENT BAD, BUT ANARCHISM BAD TOO!" *spits dip from mouth*
We're talking about the possibilities of a gunman killing much more people than he can with a hunting rifle with grenades and M60's, not what would people do to defend themselves in a Fascistic and tyrranical state led by f*cking hitler and mussolini's genettically engineered son.
Grenades and M60's aren't exactly any easier to use, more convenient to acquire, or more lethal (considering dead is dead) than a hunting rifle. Plus, the rifle would probably have more ammo.
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