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The Amarican Empire wrote:I hate the word feminist. It just sounds like it leans toward women. Equalitist would be better.

I concur on that measure and I'd probably be the first one to jump on that train.

Men's rights may be the most ignorant concept I've ever heard, along with straight pride.

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Kraannei wrote:Exactly. Along with white pride.

I hate straight white males.

"I don't need luck, because I'm a straight white male in America." -Sean Bonette.

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Kraannei wrote:I guess I agree, but I don't think that is a reason to not be a feminist.

Except for the radicals who think all men are rapists. I can't bear sharing an ideology with them given their opinion of me being male. I believe the radicals aren't really feminists and the wolves in sheep's clothing.

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Kraannei wrote:Ya.. but most feminist movements don't support those discriminatory people.

The problem is the mainstream feminists can't stop the radicals from calling themselves feminists.

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The Serbian Empire wrote:The problem is the mainstream feminists can't stop the radicals from calling themselves feminists.

*applause*

Kraannei wrote:Exactly.

YES! I GOT TWO WARNINGS.

That's because the mods side with the leftists on every single argument. Hell, I still don't know what I did to get an RMB ban.

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Kraannei wrote:I wanna hack the region and change the regional flag to my flag. It is so free.

I'm amazed lib hasn't banned you yet.

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Baphometus wrote:I'm amazed lib hasn't banned you yet.

I'll talk with lib don't worry.

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Kran instead of a burning glad just have a burning church or something. Please don't trash America like that.

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Eheh I wanna play burn things

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Baphometus wrote:Eheh I wanna play burn things

Don't go to Norway.

The Serbian Empire wrote:Don't go to Norway.

Haha I get the reference.

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Ooh I got a better one.

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I wish I killed Jesus Christ myself.

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Alright, guys. I realize you probably think that you are funny, but some of the people in the region are getting pretty heated about what you guys are saying. Remember, Libertatem isn't your place to come and just let all of your vulgarities and insults out. I'm not going to write a law banning hate like they have asked me too, but I am going to ask nicely to scale down on the aggressive anti-Christianity comments, pro-Christianity comments, the graphic homosexual jokes, and the continued condescending accented sarcasm, you know who you are. I have had multiple people approach me about this, so let's try together to make this a better environment for everyone.

So guys new non offensive topic. My dig is being adorable and I love her so much

I freaking love dogs. They awe adowable.

Baphometus wrote:I hate straight white males.

"I don't need luck, because I'm a straight white male in America." -Sean Bonette.

This is like really, really bad paraphrasing. The actual quote:

"So if I see a penny on the ground

I leave it alone or f*cking flip it

I'm a straight white male in America

I've got all the luck I need."

- Sean Bonnette/Andrew Jackson Jihad

Godisdead wrote:This is like really, really bad paraphrasing. The actual quote:

"So if I see a penny on the ground

I leave it alone or f*cking flip it

I'm a straight white male in America

I've got all the luck I need."

- Sean Bonnette/Andrew Jackson Jihad

Ah, I got the point across.

Look at my pwetty puppy

http://imgur.com/tXvB7f0

Baphometus wrote:Ah, I got the point across.

You know, it was like 1am. Your lucky I got any point across at all.

Thoughts?

Deportation Constitutional Amendment

The Founder, President or other designated official may eject and ban any nation, that is not a citizen or former citizen, deemed an enemy combatant. An enemy combatant may be classified as any nation or player that seeks to intentionally harm the region through military actions, espionage or any other activity that is deliberately destructive against the region.

Changes

Article VII

Subsection IV

Every nation has a right to represent him or herself in a trial or case when banjection is considered. If the case is made to the founder and on the Regional Message Board using legal authority, suppression will not follow.

to

Subsection IV

Every [B]citizen nation or former citizen nation[/B] has a right to represent him or herself in a trial or case when banjection is considered. If the case is made to the founder and on the Regional Message Board using legal authority, suppression will not follow.

Pevvania wrote:Thoughts?

Deportation Constitutional Amendment

The Founder, President or other designated official may eject and ban any nation, that is not a citizen or former citizen, deemed an enemy combatant. An enemy combatant may be classified as any nation or player that seeks to intentionally harm the region through military actions, espionage or any other activity that is deliberately destructive against the region.

Changes

Article VII

Subsection IV

Every nation has a right to represent him or herself in a trial or case when banjection is considered. If the case is made to the founder and on the Regional Message Board using legal authority, suppression will not follow.

to

Subsection IV

Every [B]citizen nation or former citizen nation[/B] has a right to represent him or herself in a trial or case when banjection is considered. If the case is made to the founder and on the Regional Message Board using legal authority, suppression will not follow.

I support this. Additionally, since you are amending the Constitution, we should redefine the House, as we previously talked about, from:

The House of Representatives shall consist of all nations in Libertatem not vested with a legislatoral position.

to

The House of Representatives shall consist of all [B]citizens[/B] in Libertatem not vested with a legislatoral position.

The New United States wrote:I support this. Additionally, since you are amending the Constitution, we should redefine the House, as we previously talked about, from:

The House of Representatives shall consist of all nations in Libertatem not vested with a legislatoral position.

to

The House of Representatives shall consist of all [B]citizens[/B] in Libertatem not vested with a legislatoral position.

Alright, I'll talk to Liber about it and see what he thinks.

Also, we need to amend the President's Amendment, as you have previously brought up, due to the fact that it makes an impeachment just about impossible.

The New United States wrote:I would change that particular segment in the Presidents' Amendment to:

an impeachment vote may be called by the approval of [B]one-third[/B] of the House, needing a [B]two-thirds majority[/B] vote to secure an impeachment

Do those numbers sound good, assuming that the House is redefined beforehand?

And, finally, the House still needs to vote on The WAR Act: http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_new_united_states/detail=factbook/id=284852

Trf Submarine Group X wrote:How are we bullies? Because we're competent?

Hah! You wish it was that low. :)

Obviously TRF isn't a major force in the overall R/D game. We don't pretend to be. But if we're a speck, I don't know what that makes Libertatem. What are quarks made of?

TBR is a very different kind of organization from either of us. We operate on ideological lines, they operate out of pure gameplay mechanics.

Not really? The last time you mobilized against us was in Benevolent Capitalism, and we all know how well that worked out. Your failed raid on Das Kommune was also pretty funny.

Friend, it will be a while before you are a major concern in my eyes

3 more days before I can be a citizen of Libertatem

Best satire I've read in a while,

http://tippens.liberty.me/2014/07/30/harvard-study-concludes-jimmy-johns-superior-to-every-government-in-history/

For instance, Jimmie John’s bread is baked in the store every morning to give it a fresh and unique taste, whereas Chairman Mao Zedong of China exterminated over 45 million people.

Godisdead wrote:This is like really, really bad paraphrasing. The actual quote:

"So if I see a penny on the ground

I leave it alone or f*cking flip it

I'm a straight white male in America

I've got all the luck I need."

- Sean Bonnette/Andrew Jackson Jihad

Lol

Cowboy Libertarian wrote:3 more days before I can be a citizen of Libertatem

Actually, you've been eligible since the moment you came into the region. You have lived here before.

The New United States wrote:Also, we need to amend the President's Amendment, as you have previously brought up, due to the fact that it makes an impeachment just about impossible.

Do those numbers sound good, assuming that the House is redefined beforehand?

And, finally, the House still needs to vote on The WAR Act: http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_new_united_states/detail=factbook/id=284852

A two-thirds majority is still too steep. An impeachment vote should be secured by members present.

Lack There Of wrote:Best satire I've read in a while,

http://tippens.liberty.me/2014/07/30/harvard-study-concludes-jimmy-johns-superior-to-every-government-in-history/

For instance, Jimmie John’s bread is baked in the store every morning to give it a fresh and unique taste, whereas Chairman Mao Zedong of China exterminated over 45 million people.

Lol

Pevvania wrote:Actually, you've been eligible since the moment you came into the region. You have lived here before.

A two-thirds majority is still too steep. An impeachment vote should be secured by members present.

Lol

I believe we went through this before? Meincraft says I cant

Pevvania wrote:Actually, you've been eligible since the moment you came into the region. You have lived here before.

I believe he CTE'd, and I believe there's also Department precedent where nations that CTE have to wait again.

Y'know, because CTE.

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Oh! Im an anarchy now......and my trend (stats) are gorgeous...

Yay!

Out of school!

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Miencraft wrote:I believe he CTE'd, and I believe there's also Department precedent where nations that CTE have to wait again.

Y'know, because CTE.

But I didn't CTE here

Cowboy Libertarian wrote:But I didn't CTE here

But you did CTE.

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Do CTE nations lose citizenship?

Albenia wrote:Do CTE nations lose citizenship?

Yeah, as do nations that go AWOL for too long.

Miencraft wrote:Yeah, as do nations that go AWOL for too long.

I see.

Stacey's Mom is such a weird song.

Humpheria wrote:Stacey's Mom is such a weird song.

I like it.

What happened to Kraanneei...

He left and had his posts deleted and was banned...

Trf Submarine Group X wrote:

What are quarks made of?

In String theory, 10 dimensional string.

Relativistically speaking, pure energy.

Either that or they are fundamental. *smiles*

Albenia wrote:What happened to Kraanneei...

He left and had his posts deleted and was banned...

I don't know. I had nothing to do with it.

Godisdead wrote:In String theory, 10 dimensional string.

Relativistically speaking, pure energy.

Either that or they are fundamental. *smiles*

...Too much knowledge...Just left school.

Speaking of school my history Teacher and me got into a Semi-Argument today.

I love Sweet Caroline by Neil Diamond. If I'm out on the town with muh friends and that comes on, we sing it so loudly, I'm sure Hallo could hear it in whatever Yankee state he's in.

SWEET CAROLINE!

BAH BAH BUH!!!

Starts to while and hide behind the paper*

The Amarican Empire wrote:Starts to while and hide behind the paper*

Hello Amarican Empire.

What happened to Cowboy Libertarian?

Humpheria wrote:What happened to Cowboy Libertarian?

Good question.

Cowboy Libertarian wrote:But I didn't CTE here

Spoke too soon.

So my Honors History Teacher told us 6 things make up Civilization.

1. Writing

2. Art

3. Social Structure

4. Towns/Cities....

AND GET THIS

5. Government

6. Religion.

To which I Replied: "So according to you Anarchists and Atheists aren't civilized and if they had their way civilization would die?"

Cowboy Libertarian wrote:3 more days before I can be a citizen of Libertatem

Or naw.

The Amarican Empire wrote:He's not confused on his sexulality heck I am more confused on my sexulality then tta is.

I absolutely love how you spell sexuality.

Albenia wrote:So my Honors History Teacher told us 6 things make up Civilization.

1. Writing

2. Art

3. Social Structure

4. Towns/Cities....

AND GET THIS

5. Government

6. Religion.

To which I Replied: "So according to you Anarchists and Atheists aren't civilized and if they had their way civilization would die?"

Well actually he is right, so...

Godisdead wrote:Well actually he is right, so...

Look Civilization doesn't require religion....or government.

Albenia wrote:Look Civilization doesn't require religion....or government.

I like having them...but it isn't required for a CIVILIZATION....

Albenia wrote:Look Civilization doesn't require religion....or government.

It is not required to sustain civilization, but it is required to establish one.

Humpheria wrote:It is not required to sustain civilization, but it is required to establish one.

Is it?

Religion is required?

....So I have to worship someone to start a civilization?

Government is required?

....Like I said above...

Religion is used to establish morals into a society. Government puts that nation in a direction.

Albenia wrote:Is it?

Religion is required?

....So I have to worship someone to start a civilization?

Government is required?

....Like I said above...

You're viewing your argument from a flawed view. I never said a civilization required a compulsory religion. Just religion. To estalish.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Religion is used to establish morals into a society. Government puts that nation in a direction.

Religion doesn't establish Morales.....Society does.

Government does not. The people do.

Humpheria wrote:You're viewing your argument from a flawed view. I never said a civilization required a compulsory religion. Just religion. To estalish.

So if I got a group of Atheists together and sent all of us back to the stone age....Civilization is a no?

What are Morals? Why is murder wrong? Religion is used to teach that these things are wrong and that they come from a god.

He who fights monsters must beware, lest he become a monster. And if you gaze long into the abyss, the abyss gazes back into you.

The Amarican Empire wrote:What are Morals? Why is murder wrong? Religion is used to teach that these things are wrong and that they come from a god.

Atheists don't believe in God... So...They Murder? No.

Society sets what is acceptable.

Albenia wrote:Religion doesn't establish Morales.....Society does.

Government does not. The people do.So if I got a group of Atheists together and sent all of us back to the stone age....Civilization is a no?

A group of atheists would act as the pseudo-religious capacity. You would be a united group of people (or church) of homogeneous similarly minded individuals united by belief (or lack there of) of religion.

Albenia wrote:Atheists don't believe in God... So...They Murder? No.

Society sets what is acceptable.

Atheists in a religious-based society. Just sayin.

Modern Atheism is by all intents and purposes a religion. It acts as a religion. It shoves it's beliefs on those who disagree. They sometimes get militant over their beliefs. And they are a large group of similarly-minded people.

Albenia wrote:Atheists don't believe in God... So...They Murder? No.

Society sets what is acceptable.

That's because the society's morals started with religion. After they are established they can be passed down from generation to generation. When civilization started I doubt that there was little to no Atheists.

Humpheria wrote:Atheists in a religious-based society. Just sayin.

Look. They have mostly the same morales. Society sets what is acceptable. if we had no religion we still wouldn't be killing each other.

Humpheria wrote:Modern Atheism is by all intents and purposes a religion. It acts as a religion. It shoves it's beliefs on those who disagree. They sometimes get militant over their beliefs. And they are a large group of similarly-minded people.

No. Sorry, but no. Atheism..is a lack of religion.

Humpheria wrote:A group of atheists would act as the pseudo-religious capacity. You would be a united group of people (or church) of homogeneous similarly minded individuals united by belief (or lack there of) of religion.

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Not really...I said me and them so that's one religious person.

"Religion" is a rather specific label requiring a whole bunch of specific circumstances (belief in the divine or supernatural).

However, many of the accusations toward religion are merely towards "philosophical tribalism" as a whole. At the core of all movements, all drives, anything, is a specific philosophy, of which it's adherents pursue zealously.

I am not saying that religion is needed to sustain morals. I said they are started by religion.

The Amarican Empire wrote:I am not saying that religion is needed to sustain morals. I said they are started by religion.

Thus civilization doesn't require religion....and last I checked I checked Morales started before religion (Unless them cavemen were godly people)

Albenia wrote:Thus civilization doesn't require religion....and last I checked I checked Morales started before religion (Unless them cavemen were godly people)

Religious rituals have been recording for thousands of years pasts. They've also been recorded with Neanderthals, an offshoot of humanity.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Religious rituals have been recording for thousands of years pasts. They've also been recorded with Neanderthals, an offshoot of humanity.

Source?

Albenia wrote:Source?

Common knowledge. Literally, you are taught that in high school.

Humpheria wrote:Common knowledge. Literally, you are taught that in high school.

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Republic Of Minerva wrote:He who fights monsters must beware, lest he become a monster. And if you gaze long into the abyss, the abyss gazes back into you.

Thanks Friedrich Nietzsche

Albenia wrote:Look. They have mostly the same morales. Society sets what is acceptable. if we had no religion we still wouldn't be killing each other.No. Sorry, but no. Atheism..is a lack of religion. ...

Not really...I said me and them so that's one religious person.

And society set these morals off of early religion.

Sorry, but yes. Atheism as a whole functions as every major religion. It may be the lack of religion, but it in itself worships the ideal of no religion, whether you pray or not. And still, atheism is not the same thing as it used to be. It used to mean literally no religion. Now it is a rallying cry of those that object to the modern form of religion as they see it as the embodiment of the ideals of the past, rather than what it is essentially. It has grown into the general, all-purpose word for those who attest it.

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