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Region: Libertatem
Wait a minute? There was a wedding? and I wasn't invited?
Ya, I personally sold your invite on stub hub.
But, I had a speech and everything. I was going to say how wonderful their marriage was and how it was a very historic and momentous occasion. Almost as important as Michael Sam getting drafted
And then being released...
They are just discriminatory against homosexsuals(talking in lispe and exaggerated hand motions.)
This region needs a torture chamber.
I'll test it out to see uf it works.
Ewewewewewwwwww
What is it Hallo?
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Exactly.
You must not know TTA.
He knows me.
He knows somewhat of what I meant.
And not everything I say is bad.
But most of it is kinda gross.
Well. Okay point of fairness there. Wait gross?
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Kinda gross? Hell, he's addicted to horse hooves.
Ya that.
Shaddup already and go back to CFN Mr. I lead guys on for my enjoyment.
I'm not addicted to them. I just like them somewhat.
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There is something better than horses... Scarlett Johansson.
In my mind at least. Then again. I find a lot to be okay and i understand a lot of stuff I like is gross.
Most girls are better than horses....duh.
You can date a human and marry them.
You can't do that with a horse.
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I can indeed say it is. It's called reasoning. I can like something bad or gross. It's objective but can be interpreted subjectively within an individual.
A is A
Wait. Why am I arguing on the standpoint I'm gross and weird?
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But reasoning and....God dang it Rand. You aren't making since. Why is the philosophy of Objectivism friggon Subjective
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What are you again?
This is for the most part true, but I think somethings are found to be naturally and universally recognized as repulsive and gross. Such as skunk spray. Could be wrong though.
Cause I swear. I'm hearing the 70 page John Halt speech again.
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Then even I'm calling them gross. Which is hard.
You no stop. Be Objectivist now.
It's not. Gross, as objectively defined, comes from a reference point (we have these things called error and lying you know). Often times objects defined as gross are not actually so; yet certain aspects of a single object can be simultaneously gross and not gross. The reference point would be the effects a certain object has on the mind and/or concepts that pervert (make gross) certain moral values. So, whilst I hold life as the objective standard of value, I could not say life is gross and have it be so since it would be a contradiction.
I'm not denying the potential existence of someone who might like the smell. But being that the smell/spray is the skunks defense, a skunk kind of relies on its predators to be repulsed, right?
I hate philosophy and Metaphysics and Objectivism and Ayn Rand and Aristotle and Plato and Socrates (what did he do?)
It's important to draw the distinction between subject as individual and subject as process of biology/thought. Nihilism confuses the difference quite often.
There's that one guy with that one fetish.
Okay. Philosophy time. I'm lost. Can someone translate into non-philosophy talk please.
Basically, contradictions do not, cannot, and will never exist.
So A is A?
Can it be anything else?
Well yes.
A when flipped upside down and it's line removed is V
So by manipulation A can be V
It could be, but then your statement would be
V=V
Well then A+[Manipulation] =V=V
Yes, that would be valid, except the final V is redundant
Hahaha
Thus A doesn't only equal A. Forget you Ayn Rand and Aristotle.
I added the V in to show the V then stayed V unless manipulated again.
eheh
Shush. John Galts got nothing on you with what you've said to mem
....
No, TTA, you're not getting it.
The above statement, illustrated, would be the following:
A single Apple is that Apple and can be nothing else. When I take a bite out of the Apple, the Apple becomes the single apple with a bite out of it. It cannot be anything else.
An Apple logo.
By manipulation of man or something else I'll say science instead of religion though it works both ways.
Lets say man invented a machine to turn lets say water into food.
Id that not manipulation?
A thus is V
What would you call a cat stored in a box that has a fifty-fifty chance of being alive or dead with no way to determine its life status without first opening the box and observing it, before observing it to determine whether it is alive or dead?
well what ever do you mean?
A cat.
You must've pulled Objectivism out on me at least 50 times.
Schrodinger's cat.
Damn, I'm starting to like this philosophy.
I was not.
Screw Objectivism.
Ayn Rand. Meet your Match. Subjectivism! (Or is that invented already?)
An absence of absolute knowledge. We can't know what we don't know.
If we must speculate, then we fall back on the odds.
Or you can call it a cat.
Dead or alive it'd still be a cat.
You mean the philosophy of being a pussy.ass bitch, yes.
Also, you were being too Mormon, and I was beginning to dry heave at your vile stupidity.
Good for you. I'll continue to pursue my happiness.
You're an objectivist?
I thought this was clear.
I mean are you a straight up orthodox objectivist?
I am not stupid.
Let me tell you Subjectivism will be the advanced form of Objectivism....once I study metaphysics.
Subjectivism and Objectivism would have lots on common.
I simply don't want to call anything like New Objectivism.
Yep.
So what does that make learning?
You have no grasp of any philosophy whatsoever, Blake.
Exactly.
On time all can be revealed by ways of Human science. We can learn what we don't know.
It's not an absolute that it is hidden knowledge. All knowledge is unlockable.
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Depends on what you're learning. What you perceive. Some knowledge is probabilistic. A lot of it is open to error I'd say (history classes are a good example.)
no no no, no no no no, no no no no.
Liberosia says no knowledge (aside from absolute), you say all knowledge...I don't think either extreme is correct, really.
I have quite a good grasp of Objectivism. It's just I don't agree with your chosen philosophy that you say this.
I can say you don't either. It's a subjective viewpoint based on the minds bias.
Do you know what you're saying?
Do you believe there is stuff humans will never learn?
Humans will one day know a the mysteries of life and the universe.
That Humans can think, learn and evolve.
First, what are you asking?
Second, care to enlighten us?
Yeah...that's what we're saying...
Go back to the dead cat.
Lib. You say you can't say what the cat is because we don't have tje knowledge.
I say. I have the knowledge that either way it will still be a cat. It's easy to open the lid and check instead of sit and wonder on philosophy.
Blake, the ultimate truth if the universe, is that there is no ultimate truth. Once you accept that you are meaninglessly hurdling through space on a giant rock and your life is completely insignificant and there is nothing you can do about that, you can focus on making yourself happy.
Can't know what we don't know?
They're not mutually exclusive. It depends on the question.
Ask another then and see how our answer vary.
There has to be truth in all things.
The truth of the mind is that all minds are subjective.
The trith of a rock is that it's a rock.
Everything has a truth. One day humanity will be able through religion science or whatever to see all the truths of the universe.
Nothing can be hidden from knowledge. If it exists it is understandable somehow.
Maybe not today or in a century but eventually humans will learn.
Sure, I'll grant you that perception functions as an absolute, and that error occurs only in conceptualization (or perhaps there is sensory damage, not sure).
You'd think it'd be the Atheist spouting everything could be understood and not the religious.
You are so immature. There is no meaning of life. You are going to die and we all are going to die and everything we have learned and experienced will be irrelevant, so you may as well sit back and enjoy the ride.
Statistically speaking, wouldn't it be more rational to suggest that there are some things that can be known rather than no/all?
Anyway, while one might have an intimate knowledge of some aspects of a subjective thing, there are other aspects that cannot be qualified. Would this count as something that can and cannot be known?
I enjoy Hallo how Objectivism has done to you what you say religion has done to me.
I have a mind. I think and learn. I adapt. I thrive. I create.
You. Believe humans are nothing. Meaningless. Have no thoughts besides what makes them happy.
...What?
Time for Atheist Camp! Let's sing campfire songs!
No one loves the little children
The little children of the world
No one hears you when you cry
No one hears your lullaby
No one loves the little children of the world
...Damn, that's depressing.
No meaning of life.
I thought the meaning of life was decided by your own goals. If you decide now there is no meaning then what goals do you have. My life's meaning is determined by me. Not the fact I'll die and no one will no me.
Humans by advancement in learning can know all things.
It make take years or 100s of them but humans will know.
I'm sorry if you look at yourself with no Value Hallo.
But hey. Your value is made by you not by me. So to me your worthless. Meanwhile. I view myself as important. Thus value.
The man who thinks of himself more highly IS worth more.
All of our lives are irrelevant. especially yours, if all you do in life is suck your priest's cock.
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