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The Amarican Empire wrote:Then why does Liberosia still act like he is a Emperor?

Because that's just how Nationstates works.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Then why does Liberosia still act like he is a Emperor?

Valid point. Like the whole rule over COIN thing. Not cool.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Then why does Liberosia still act like he is a Emperor?

Founders have that privilege.

The Serbian Empire wrote:Founders have that privilege.

Somebody tell that to COIN

The Serbian Empire wrote:Founders have that privilege.

NO THEY DON'T!

Albenia wrote:NO THEY DON'T!

Founders have the power to do everything in a region as per the game's code.

So, yeah, they kinda do.

To make the region truly democratic, you can strip the founder of executive powers during regional creation, although it's kind of pointless IMO as it effectively makes the region founderless.

Miencraft wrote:Founders have the power to do everything in a region as per the game's code.

So, yeah, they kinda do.

Founderism as I call it is easily avoided by having a founder who places constitutional checks to his power.

Founderism: Belief that because the game codes it that founders can automatically do anything they want no matter the consequences.

Just because he can use his power that does not mean he has to. I recommend that lib only use his powers in am emergency and be elected in regional politics like everyone else.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Just because he can use his power that does not mean he has to. I recommend that lib only use his powers in am emergency and be elected in regional politics like everyone else.

Exactly.

Screw the MPA

Anti-Founderist Party.

We gonna be Like the Anti-Federalist Party

Albenia wrote:Founderism as I call it is easily avoided by having a founder who places constitutional checks to his power.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Just because he can use his power that does not mean he has to. I recommend that lib only use his powers in am emergency and be elected in regional politics like everyone else.

You think I feel any differently?

I'm just pointing out that Founders don't have to be held to this idea that "Oh, they can't run their region in X manner", because the point of a Founder is being able to run their region however they like.

As it happens, Liberosia allowed his power to be limited to basically a President that only really acts when the President's executive power is stripped due to an emergency situation.

Nah, I like Liberosia. He's a cool guy.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Nah, I like Liberosia. He's a cool guy.

Eh..He isn't evil.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Nah, I like Liberosia. He's a cool guy.

So cool.

Is it possible to kick the founder with enough influence if WAD is executive?

It's possible but the founder can always unban himself

Albenia wrote:Is it possible to kick the founder with enough influence if WAD is executive?

Technically yes, but it won't do anything since the Founder is pretty much able to get back in whenever he wants.

The Amarican Empire wrote:It's possible but the founder can always unban himself

Well that's rather...dumb..but Okay.

Albenia wrote:Well that's rather...dumb..but Okay.

That's actually one of the safeguards they put in place to ensure a region cannot be completely overrun if it has an active founder. If raiders banject a founder and then put a password on the region, the founder can just remove himself from the banlist, lift the password, and then kick the raiders.

That's why it's a horrible idea for a founder to create a region and become non-executive, because then the region can be destroyed easily by a raid. Just overthrow the WAD and kick everyone out. Easy.

TTA if it was possible to remove the founder then tsar would have banned hallo.

The Amarican Empire wrote:TTA if it was possible to remove the founder then tsar would have banned hallo.

True.

The constitution grants power checks to the President and Founder.

That's why I proposed a change. The Constitution can be changed.

Humpheria wrote:The constitution grants power checks to the President and Founder.

The Amarican Empire wrote:That's why I proposed a change. The Constitution can be changed.

WHY CHANGE THAT PART

What we need to change is Article 7 and Article 8

Why don't we just make a new constitution?

The Amarican Empire wrote:Why don't we just make a new constitution?

ha ha ha

The Amarican Empire wrote:Why don't we just make a new constitution?

Do you know what happened last time we tried that?

Didn't end well.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Why don't we just make a new constitution?

Because it's a good constitution until 7 and 8

Change is good. What's the harm in a new constitution?

The Amarican Empire wrote:Why don't we just make a new constitution?

Humpheria wrote:ha ha ha

I will dismantle every effort you make to change the constitution. Just FYI.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Change is good. What's the harm in a new constitution?

Amendments bro.

Muh Roads wrote:I will dismantle every effort you make to change the constitution. Just FYI.

True story.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Change is good. What's the harm in a new constitution?

Look back at the last time we tried.

Humpheria wrote:ha ha ha

Thx for the idea humpy.

Not implying anything here. But if you don't approve of the constitution, the founders actions, or anything else your unwilling to put in the effort and time to try and change.. there is a link that will solve all your problems.

Again 7 and 8 are all that needs Change

Muh Roads, do you support the War on Communism?

Albenia wrote:Again 7 and 8 are all that needs Change

So go find the parts that need changing and write up an Amendment.

Just for the record my bringing this up is just me picking on humpy. I like most of the Constitution.

Humpheria wrote:Muh Roads, do you support the War on Communism?

Well, this region was based on it. We often forget that NS Is a game. I do enjoy raiding. I do support the war as a legitimate part of the game. I will fight to continue the war. Will communism ever cease in NS? No, but that doesn't mean we should give up.

However, back in RL I'm in favor of a strong national defense. I don't believe in getting involved in other countries beeswax unless we have a sound legitimate reason. I hardly think that liberating a real country from communist hands is worth a nations time, resources, and effort.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Just for the record my bringing this up is just me picking on humpy. I like most of the Constitution.

I had hoped so. It's hard for me to tell when your serious Amarican :p

I am serious when I am talking about my politics and when b I am caring about someone. Essentially those times.

The Amarican Empire wrote:I am serious when I am talking about my politics and when b I am caring about someone. Essentially those times.

Ah, gotcha. I'll try to catch it better. :)

You can't deny that muh roads is one of the best nations in nationstates.

Miencraft wrote:So go find the parts that need changing and write up an Amendment.

I'm planning on it. I talked with Liberosia about all I wanted to change. He said it was okay (though he personally wouldn't support it)

So I'm focusing on 3 things

1. Appeal

2. Election

3. Amendments

The Amarican Empire wrote:You can't deny that muh roads is one of the best nations in nationstates.

Finally, someone besides Ron Paul is showing Muh a little appreciation. Haha

Albenia wrote:I'm planning on it. I talked with Liberosia about all I wanted to change. He said it was okay (though he personally wouldn't support it)

So I'm focusing on 3 things

1. Appeal

2. Election

3. Amendments

1. Obviously

2. Meh

3. Amending the Constitution to change the way the Constitution is amended, eh?

The Amarican Empire wrote:You can't deny that muh roads is one of the best nations in nationstates, though I must admit that it is incomparable to the utopia known as [nation=short]The New United States[/nation].

Fixed it for you, friend. ;)

The New United States wrote:Fixed it for you, friend. Good thing I was lying about that, since Miencraft is clearly the best nation in the universe.

Miencraft wrote:Just kidding about everything I said ever. Muh Roads is the best nation ever.

I don't have a favorite Libertatem. I do have a least favorite tho but he will not be named.

I don't have a favorite Libertatem member*

The New United States wrote:Fixed it for you, friend. ;)

Ah a vampire!

The Amarican Empire wrote:I freaking love Humpy, man. He's my favorite person on NS.

Miencraft wrote:1. Obviously

2. Meh

3. Amending the Constitution to change the way the Constitution is amended, eh?

No I want to amend the wording based on what Liberosia told me.

The Amarican Empire wrote: hallo is the sexiest nation on NS *

No I don't have a favorite. But your in my top 10. With the number 1 being tied.

I have a favorite and a Least favorite.

The Amarican Empire wrote:No I don't have a favorite. But your in my top 10. With the number 1 being tied.

Am I in your top ten?

Favorite: Me, HAllo and Humph

Least Favorite: Me, Hallo and Humph

So what are you guys doing? I am watching the OReilly Factor and playing Nationstates.

The reason being I have a serious Love-Hate relationship with all three of us.

Humpheria wrote:Am I in your top ten?

Yes

The Amarican Empire wrote:So what are you guys doing? I am watching the OReilly Factor and playing Nationstates.

I've got Morgan Freeman on on the TV in front of me and I'm just sitting here responding to this silly question about what I'm doing.

Humpheria wrote:In an end of humanity situation, I would bear Muh's children.

Miencraft wrote:Me too.

The Amarican Empire wrote:So what are you guys doing? I am watching the OReilly Factor and playing Nationstates.

About to take a shower. Temp is 99.7 and slowly rising (Fever)

Humpheria wrote:My love for TNUS is truly boundless. He is the best individual in Libertatem, and I am truly blessed to be graced by his presence. <3

Albenia wrote:About to take a shower. Temp is 99.7 and slowly rising (Fever)

The cure is more cow bell.

My favorite 10

Humpy

Communal Earth

Tsar

Hallo

Tta

Muh roads

Meincraft

Anakha

Rrrg

Ci

Not in order.

Muh Roads wrote:

End of humanity? I would do that right now?

Humpheria wrote:End of humanity? I would do that right now?

<3 Don't even have to wait til Tuesday. ;)

The Amarican Empire wrote:My favorite 10

Humpy

Communal Earth

Tsar

Hallo

Tta

Muh roads

Meincraft

Anakha

Rrrg

Ci

Not in order.

I MADE THE LIST! I MADE THE LIST! Lol

The Amarican Empire wrote:My favorite 10

Humpy

Communal Earth

Tsar

Hallo

Tta

Muh roads

Meincraft

Anakha

Rrrg

Ci

Not in order.

I'm on errybody's list so whatever.

Muh Roads wrote:I MADE THE LIST! I MADE THE LIST! Lol

I did not, but then I'm the new guy. My skill is in debating in the forums which means you often see me working the forumside more often.

Miencraft wrote:I'm on errybody's list so whatever.

Somebody's bow tie and Fedora are on a bit too tight.. :p

The Serbian Empire wrote:I did not, but then I'm the new guy. My skill is in debating in the forums which means you often see me working the forumside more often.

I rarely get on the forums... if i do its usually forum 7. The debate in there gets a bit heated and often turns into an argument about who's more of an intellectual than political ideology. Atleast, that's what I have gathered. But that's good! Where do you stand politically?

Um why does humpy not have a day of rest anymore?

Muh Roads wrote:Somebody's bow tie and Fedora are on a bit too tight.. :p

As I said the other day,

"I have a big pe- err, ego."

The Amarican Empire wrote:Um why does humpy not have a day of rest anymore?

He wanted it to be taken away in exchange for a day with Rotgeheim.

Muh Roads wrote:I rarely get on the forums... if i do its usually forum 7. The debate in there gets a bit heated and often turns into an argument about who's more of an intellectual than political ideology. Atleast, that's what I have gathered. But that's good! Where do you stand politically?

You know what you should do on the forums? My RP.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=304475

I also spend a fair amount on the General forum, usually arguing pointless things or making snide remarks.

Miencraft wrote:As I said the other day,

"I have a big pe- err, ego."

I didn't read that as I was supposed to at first. I was thinking you were making a statement about having a large jar of spaghetti sauce. Also, Lol.

The Serbian Empire wrote:The cure is more cow bell.

Of course.

Also I have two questions about how you view me?

Socially and Politically do you view me More Authoritarian or Libertarian

Economically where would y'all place me amd my policies on the spectrum.

I want to know because of my Marxist Supporting "Centrist" stage.

I view you as confused tta.

Muh Roads wrote:I rarely get on the forums... if i do its usually forum 7. The debate in there gets a bit heated and often turns into an argument about who's more of an intellectual than political ideology. Atleast, that's what I have gathered. But that's good! Where do you stand politically?

I think my rhetoric in the forums is more moderate than the positions I hold. My Political compass is (7 something Economic Right and -6 something Socially Liberal)

Albenia wrote:Of course.

Also I have two questions about how you view me?

Socially and Politically do you view me More Authoritarian or Libertarian

Economically where would y'all place me amd my policies on the spectrum.

I want to know because of my Marxist Supporting "Centrist" stage.

When it comes to your politics, I just draw a circle around the political compass.

Albenia wrote:Of course.

Also I have two questions about how you view me?

Socially and Politically do you view me More Authoritarian or Libertarian

Economically where would y'all place me amd my policies on the spectrum.

I want to know because of my Marxist Supporting "Centrist" stage.

I think you're down the center right now.

Muh Roads wrote:When it comes to your politics, I just draw a circle around the political compass.

..Synthetic then? (That's the wrong word for not using the scale innit.)

The Serbian Empire wrote:I think you're down the center right now.

Okay.

My compass was

Left: -0.29

And

Libertarian: -7.95

Albenia wrote:..Synthetic then? (That's the wrong word for not using the scale innit.)

I think the official term is "Drawing a circle around all four quadrants".

Anyways, I said this earlier, but my compass is

Econ 5.12

Social -2.97.

Miencraft wrote:I think the official term is "Drawing a circle around all four quadrants".

Sofab. I was just about to say something similar.

TTA you are ideologically confused.

We should get a thing going where we plot every Tatemite's political compass standings.

Don't remember mine. I was centerish right libertarian.

Albenia wrote:My compass was

Left: -0.29

And

Libertarian: -7.95

Ick

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