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Region: Libertatem
*waves* Hello everybody, I am Fejanstein! Nice to meet you, can you tell me some more about Libertarianism?
Pevvania
Hi Fejanstein! Libertarianism is fundamentally based on:
-The belief that the individual, rather than government or any other group, is the ultimate arbiter of his own destiny
-The belief that central planning is inherently immoral and inefficient, and is vastly inferior to the forces of free market competition
-The belief that government intervention in the economy usually leads to disaster, except in a few cases like protection of property rights
-The belief that attempting to regulate human behaviour by force through gun control, drug wars, prostitution bans and so forth usually accomplish the opposite of what they intend to and are immoral
-The belief that the use of force is destructive and immoral unless waged in self-defense
-The belief that human freedom is natural, desirable and the ultimate political goal
Well, just the last two semesters. My home university is in the United States.
Oh, my nation has a government... should I leave?
I think you missed the entire point.
I think I have misunderstood...
Nah, I am a minarchist and they haven't kicked me out.
This is because none of them have read Nozick and think minarchism can't be defended. :)
Anyone of any stripe can live here. But you can still be a libertarian and believe in government.
Broadly speaking, there are two main types of libertarian: anarcho-capitalists, who want to abolish the government and rely on the free market enforced by the nonaggression principle to provide goods and services, and minarchists, who believe in reducing the state to the roles of defense, justice and contract enforcement. There are also Nozickians, who are somewhere in the middle, and a few more moderate libertarians who believe in leaving a few more functions of government like disability benefits.
On your recommendation, I bought Anarchy, State and Utopia last year, but I haven't gotten around to reading it.
We will fight
Hallo Island
I hate Martin Van Buren's hair.
Pevvania, Hallo Island
Ladies and gentlemen, but mostly ladies, tomorrow starts a huge recruitment drive. I will be personally sending out 20000 recruitment TGs myself, anyone else who wants to contribute please TG me. Thank you!
Board, what is the status on REDS?
Also forgive me for the multiple RMB messages, I try to keep 95% of my communication with the board open. The other 5% is mostly love mails between me and Humpy.
That is debatable. I think its perfect.
Come at me little boy. You can run, but you'll get tired eventually.
It passed. Like I told you last night before that other thing.
Native Americans: proving that anarcho-capitalism can't work amongst tribes of peaceful hunter-gatherers.
I don't mean to be 'that guy', but you realise that it needs 100% support from the Board, President and Managers, right?
Then it didn't pass.
I see. I'll send out a big TG to all relevant officials a bit later. And of course, it has my support.
I just realised - Prussia's quit the Board! We need to host a by-election.
No one takes the bait?
Humpy you want to do this again. You will lose
So my computer has been refusing to work for the past few days.
I was going to respond, but then I kind of laughed it off.
Excuses, excuses. :P
Their whole system kinda got tampered with by the U.S. Government. Plus, by the time Jackson's Indian removal act passed, most tribes were actually representative democracies.
A recruitment drive, huh?
Gone are the days that I've managed Libertatem's NS++ recruitment tool, and I won't be unveiling my own personal diplomacy program quite yet, but I'll tell you what I can do: I can write up, or help write up, a mutual citizenship treaty between our two regions. That way you guys will at least get a few more like-minded participants in your political process, and maybe the IRU's government will see a bit more activity.
What do you guys think?
Sounds cool.
Most tribes weren't anything near anarcho-capitalism anyhow.
It sounds cool Libretatem , libre = freedom
"Libertatem" is the Latin word for freedom, in case you can't tell by the libert- prefix.
United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen
Boy, I've beaten you onece, I will do it again you filthy statist loving scumsack. I don't give a half baked diddly doodly frickfrack about what your half baked brainwashed opinions entail
They entail whooping on your debate you ninny.
What about all the frontiersmen that were operating outside of the US government in homesteading Indian lands?
I just spent the last three hours beating the hell out of this computer to get it to start.
It's only going to stay on for another five minutes before crashing again, I can feel it.
Three hours, close enough, right?
Pevvania
Fun fact: when I had my American history exam a year ago, a question came up on how much responsibility the Republican administrations of the 1920s had in causing the 1929 Wall Street Crash. My answer evoked the Austrian Business Cycle Theory to explain the crash, which ran contrary to the Kenyesian-inspired syllabus.
I was afraid that I would be punished for defying the orthodox, but instead I actually got an A+ for that question and an A for the exam overall.
Most impressive.
...Perhaps more impressive is that you had an American history class, come to think of it.
Why don't we talk anymore?
Lol.
Well, I have officially set up the channel. If you want to make a request for your national anthem, just telegram me a picture of your flag and the name of your music, unless you would like me to write you original music, in that case, please specify in the telegram. (That would cost you money xD)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsBNJwvtVhNbh3PlkuwekBg
United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen
Hey, thanks for reminding me, I need to go chant Miencraftic words over the Age of Empires III theme.
I'll get around to that someday...
United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen
Wow. Most pacifistic in Libertatem. When did that happen?
Irony! Lol
I seriously has a dream the I got banjected and no one would talk to me. I have to stop eating before bed.
Hi! :D
Welcome to Libertatem!
Thanks!
Are you new to nationstates? Or have you played before?
I have played before. I currently have a few other accounts. Do you guys have off-site forums?
We do, but they haven't seen much use as of late
http://libertatem.shivtr.com/
Oh ok.
Many of us are fairly active on the RMB. Which i think is the reason why we don't use the forum as much.
From the Fourth Edition introduction of America's Great Depression by Murray Rothbard:
"...the timidity and confusion of Reaganomics make very clear what its choice will be: massive inflation of money and credit, and hence the resumption of double-digit and perhaps higher inflation, which will drive interest rates even higher and prevent recovery... We can look forward, therefore, not precisely to a 1929-type depression, but to an inflationary depression of massive proportions. Until then, the Austrian program of hard money, the gold standard, abolition of the Fed, and laissez-faire, will have been rejected by everyone: economists, politicians, and the public, as too harsh and Draconian. But Austrian policies are comfortable and moderate compared to the economic hell of permanent inflation, stagnation, high unemployment, and inflationary depression that Keynesians and Friedmanite neo-Keynesians have gotten us into. Perhaps, this present and future economic holocaust will cause the American public to turn away from failed nostrums and toward the analysis and policy conclusions of the Austrian School."
Here, Rothbard is predicting the same thing that Keynesians like Paul Krugman were all predicting in the early 80s: that Reaganomics would lead to "double-digit and perhaps higher inflation", "which will drive interest rates higher and prevent recovery". These three predictions were horribly wrong, and the exact opposite happened.
United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen
Libertatem contains 102 nations, the 131st most in the world.
Pevvania
And two more, but the point is we're over 100.
Do you guys believe in capitalism?
Yes
I do.
No
I believe in it because it's the only system where you can keep your own achievements and not have it taken away from you.
Daprington
Behold, the magic of freedom!
You're actually allowed to disagree!
Pevvania, Republic Of Minerva, Muh Roads, Hallo Island, Yrellian Confederacy, Vichtander In Liberatem, Midland County, Daprington
Greetings all new nations to Libertatem! Say hello, don't be shy! :)
Daprington
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Feminism is that you?
Hahahaha
https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11243641_10152770814936791_1556133789185641669_n.jpg?oh=8ff0225b8e86f8237dafad34e50c6230&oe=55C0750C
Pevvania
Heh. The whiteboard made me smile.
Republic Of Minerva
Number of Internet arguments won, that's fantastic. He must not play NS.
LOLOLOLO: http://dailycaller.com/2014/10/20/socialist-party-demanding-20-minimum-wage-insists-it-should-not-be-subject-to-20-minimum-wage/
Seattle is commie confirmed:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Lenin,_Seattle
Seattle is possibly one of the worst places on Earth. Being a Washingtonian myself, I can vouch for that.
Seemed kind of nice compared to most of New Jersey back when I visited.
Heh, it's nice in that there are lots of cool buildings, like Pike's Place Market and the Space Needle, but I don't like the people there.
EDIT: *most of the people
I do have a couple of friends that moved there.
Isn't it privately owned?
I'd like to visit Seattle, only because ive never been, not too far from me.
Im new to the game could someone help me out?
In a month this nation will go inactive. I will be leaving for Marine Bootcamp. The idea of me coming back to nation states is slim. This has been a great high school project since the sophomore year but this will be my nations end.
Miencraft, Pevvania, Muh Roads, Humpheria In Libertatem, Daprington
Good luck
We'll miss you, Prussia.
Hello, welcome to the game.
The way the game works, you answer issues that come up in your issues inbox, and that affects the economy, political freedoms, cheese exports, etc of your nation. after a while, you can get really extreme results, and you start getting near the top of the list of nations in your region, and world wide. You can also collect plaques, which you accumulate for being in the top 10, 5, or 1 percent in your region, or the world.
The region you go to doesn't matter to your nation, it's just the nations you want to hang out with and talk to.
That's a short rundown. Anything I missed?
Oh, I forgot, the WA. The WA (World Assembly) Is sort of like the UN, in fact, it was first called by that name. You can endorse (Vote for) someone, and, with enough endorsements, they become the WA delegate of the region, and sometimes gain executive powers, if there is no founder, or the founder lets them. That basically means they can kick people out of the region, and change the world facbook entry, and suppress posts.
Lol bye
All of what zombie said, however in an active region like ours, we have a few activities of our own. If your interested in learning more I or any of our other fine citizens here would be happy to help!
Good luck sir, and it's been an honor.
The recruitment drive is going splendid :)
What's our recruitment rate?
Well I salute you.
2.12%
Ah, so much fresh meat for the grinder.
Please, if you wish to sign up for Libertatem's military, please telegram me. Due to certain changes I cannot let you in on big invasions, but we can do practice runs.
Muh Roads
Whom holds the law of Libertatem account? There's some updating to be done... :p
The REDS Amendment did not pass the Board, correct?
No, it didn't. Sorry :/
Then I request that the Founder approves or disapproves of the Amendment, and I request that a House vote is put into motion.
Okay...
I thought that was already in motion, but.
I will ask him.
The Founder approves.
Just to clarify, he has to say he approves for it to be legal. Otherwise, there would be no way of knowing for sure.
Pevvania, Muh Roads
I approve of the REDS Amendment.
Miencraft, Pevvania, The New United States, Muh Roads, Humpheria In Libertatem
Hi guys
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