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Region: Libertatem
Will post flag constitution amendment thingy later.
mmmm, enjoying the pleasure of staying deep in a warm bed when it's snowing outside.
Yep
Indeed.
President Pev explains why Pevvania is in the Top Ten for Most Scientifically Advanced:
"We cut back wasteful spending and left R&D to the private sector - the opposite of what America does."
I've been hiding here in the shadows the whole time..
Be nice if it would snow here.. Been quite mild this Winter.. feels more like early Spring..
Can somebody tell me about the updated Board?
1. Pevv
2. Humph
3. Ankha
4. Right winged nation
5. Northern Prussia
The RLP dominates the upper house.
Every member is RLP?
Ankha is not part of the RLP.
Nevermind, RLP holds majority.
After playing with NationStates++, I don't think I could go back to the way it was before.
Compared to how it was here last year, I'm not complaining... as long as it doesn't get up above again this summer like it did in 2012.
Yes he is. He filed with us and ran under our party.
Board is updated. First meeting to begin shortly.
He told me that he didn't join the RLP :I
By the way, he'll probably join the ACOP in the next few days.
Board 14 Meeting 1
Greetings, fellow Boardsmen. A new month, a new term - and the first ever Board to be composed entirely of RLP members. This will be an exciting month for progress at home and victory abroad. Let's start it by electing a Chairman. Naturally, I put myself forward for re-election. Deregulation, constitutional reform, judicial streamlining and strengthening the War on Communism are my priorities.
Ya got muh vote.
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The Half time show was terrible.
Preach
I think that the only thing that could have made it good was a wardrobe malfunction, sadly that did not happen.
Well, the Cheatriots "win" again. Still a great game though. Malcolm Butler made some incredible plays.
Pev, I'm impressed. You have picked up so much in so little time.
God you bug me. The pats won fair and square. If you think they cheated you are ignorant and/or salty.
Plot twist: Maybe the ball was deflated again during the Super Bowl.
Maybe that's your fault for rooting for the Deflatriots.
I'm still steaming about that last intercepted pass.
Why the hell didn't the 'Hawks run the ball? They would have had, like, three attempts to get a touchdown that way, without fear of turning possession over to the Pats.
No I just asked you about the board races because you were kinda running it.
Better team won. Scandalous
I thought I was gonna hear about tht crazy bobble catch 4 years..
And to answer any questions, I am independent because RLP and ACOP are too similar. (And both good options)
Joke of the day: This isn't the first time the Patriots have deflated someone's hopes.
At least you're not in the ACOP.
Just remember, I only run the RLP side of it.
Hallo, who will be unbanned in June, says hi.
Okay, now I'm confused.
He's been a member of the RLP for awhile now...and he joined ACOP a few days ago...and now he identifies as neither party? *scratches head*
He's more than entitled to change parties at will. He's said that both parties are too similar, he's allowed to think so.
What I meant was that it came out of left field, that's all. A heads-up would have been nice.
Speaking of heads, I still haven't been able to choose between Yrellian and Samarian for People's Attorney - and I've been informed that only one of them can have the position - so I left it to a coin toss.
Yr won the toss; please congratulate our region's new People's Attorney.
What is your opinion of Communism?
Good question.
Your answer depends on which one of us you're asking, and what you mean by communism.
I don't know about all of the complicated definitions. I'm just talking about Russian political structures.
I'm good with that.
We have two political sides, one pro-Communism, the other anti-Communism. As a general region, our official policy is anti-Communism.
There's Marxism, Leninism, Bolshevism, State Socialism, etc.
Fine, Marxism.
I disagree with Marxism but I have absolutely nothing against people practicing communism on the base of voluntarism, like in the Israeli Kibbutz. In fact I encourage people to do anything to live according to their own political ideology.
But if you want to impose it to the whole society, you'll find me on your way.
Austex
Well, yeah. This region is tagged 'Libertarian', isn't everyone here like that?
Thanks Mr President. I deplore that we had to use such means to nominate the people attorney, but it had to be done.
In my case, neutral.
On the one hand, Marx made a lot of good points about the exploitation and unethical promotion of labor in a day and age where his concerns were justified. Back in the days of the Industrial Revolution and the Gilded Age to follow, there were countless unfair business practices to protest against, and the plight of the lower class during that time served as an ideal breeding ground for leftist ideologies. At the very least, it's understandable.
However, he also jumped to a lot of conclusions about capitalist economies and the market that, quite simply, weren't true; a notable example of this were his sophomoric theories on the value of labor. These inconsistent variables led him to make assertions that simply didn't hold water - for instance, the bold claim that capitalism's end was imminent (despite the fact that it is still the prevailing economic system, more than 100 years later).
There have been many changes to the philosophy of communism since the beginning of Marxism, some of which address the flaws within the ideology as it was first established. What matters more to me than whether communism is correct, however, is how it is practiced.
Many of us here are indifferent to - or even supportive of - communism when practiced by voluntary means, especially if it is anti-Vanguardist or otherwise libertarian. When other players of NationStates promote totalitarian communism (e.g. Leninism, Maoism, any form of apologia for the existence of a state or central authority, etc.) by use of force, however, we rise in opposition to them.
Austex
Indeed. You now represent your fellow citizens in court-related matters; serve them well.
I will.
The Republic of Minerva WILL rise again. o/ o/ o/ o/
The Tongans will pay...
That's a bit of a silly conclusion to come to.
We're not all libertarians. How can you tell? We're tagged 'libertarian'.
But, you are like supposed to be like 'Do whatever the hell you want, leave me alone.'
The joke is that whoever tagged us as libertarian isn't libertarian because they tagged us.
Silly, economically illiterate and ultimately unnecessary. It believes that destroying wealth can result in abundant resources, when exactly the opposite is true.
I used to hold this view, but I no longer see it as rational. What some see as "exploitation" - which is one of the most ridiculously manipulative words in the English language - led to the greatest upheaval of the living standards of the poor that the world had ever seen, and developing dozens of nations into prosperous, market-based democracies in the process. The only problem I see with the 19th Century is the rampant crony capitalism.
Marxism is silly because it relies on common, uniform fluctuation of wealth with no distribution according to contribution or effort. It's unfair even in theory. I don't despise Marxism, I tend to view it as moronic.
I view it similarly. I used to hate it with a passion, but now it's just too silly for me to take seriously.
If there's some of you that are Libertarian and some that aren't, I'm with the Libertarians. I'm sorry Miencraft, but how could you not be Libertarian in a region that is liberty in Latin?
Building on what Con said, according to Marx and his "labour theory of value", the 'harder' you work, the more valuable the work done. This flawless logic says that a man taking a year to dig a hole with a spoon has done more valuable work than a machine drilling a hole in a few seconds.
Economic schools of thought often modernise themselves by ejecting ridiculous ideas such as this. But the Marxian school of "economics" has not, just one of the many reasons it remains in the intellectual dark ages.
Austex
Board Chairman Vote
Pevvania - [B]Pevvania[/B]
Humpheria - [B]Pevvania[/B]
Northern Prussia - [B]Pevvania[/B]
Right-Winged Nation -[B] Pevvania[/B]
Ankha - abstained
By a vote of 4-0, I have been re-elected Chairman of the Board. Thank you, Libertatem.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-02-02/rand-paul-on-vaccines-most-of-them-ought-to-be-voluntary-
Vaccines - what do you think?
Obviously, vaccines are a good thing that have saved millions of people from diseases. The main anti-vaxxer argument that vaccines cause autism is a typical case of the correlation = causation fallacy. "Autism has grown amongst children. Children are given vaccines. See! PROOF that vaccines are evil!"
The question is whether they should be mandated. I think there's a legitimate libertarian case for vaccine mandates, since willingly allowing yourself to spread diseases to others is a violation of their person and property. But I don't think mandates are really needed.
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I'm so libertarian I'm almost anarchist, man. Just pointing out that the 'libertarian' tag doesn't mean we're all libertarians; it means we're libertarian in the sense that we don't care what your ideology is.
Thoughts on monetary policy?
I voted 4 u
I'm a Keynesian.
I received neither a telegram nor an RMB message.
https://i.imgflip.com/h5274.jpg
The best monetary policy is no monetary policy.
The United Libertarian American Republic
Libertarian capitalism kills people: http://www.alternet.org/environment/libertarian-style-capitalism-killed-my-best-friends
Libertarianism ruined Iceland: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/iris-lee/libertarian-experiment-in_b_172961.html
This proves libertarians are wrong: http://thedailybanter.com/2012/12/how-to-quickly-prove-a-libertarian-wrong/
Libertarians are the most evil people on this planet and need to be locked up and sent to mental health wards for the good of society.
Nah. The veto, if properly used, is crucial. Dozens, even hundreds, of government programs could be ground to a halt by a simple veto. If a President Paul vetoed reauthorisation of the Ex-Im Bank, for example, it would surely be gone for good. Rand Paul would also have, I think, a significant legislative agenda to build a popular legacy on, so it wouldn't all be negative stuff.
I think people over-exaggerate the ideological purity of the Republican Party. While there are frequent battles over its philosophical soul, it flips like the wind under the weight of a commanding president. The same party that backed deregulation in the 80s and 90s voted overwhelmingly for the Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002, which just 3 people in the whole Congress opposed. The party can, and will, be changed again.
You worry that Republicans will reject Rand Paul - but you think they'll be any friendlier towards a Libertarian president? 0_o
I'm starting to believe that Thom Hartmann is a libertarian in disguise trying to make statism look stupid. Too bad nobody ever pays him attention.
That Icelandic article is pretty hilarious. I've seen commies - one of whom is the current puppet ruler of Das Kommune - point to this as "proof" of capitalism failing. Laughably, it does the exact opposite. Most of the article it talks about the economic boom in Iceland that resulted from free market reforms, then tries to blame the collapse of their economy on these reforms. Apparently the author has never heard of the world financial crisis before.
A bunch of isolated economic boogie-man stories framed to make capitalism look bad? Oh boy, they sure got us there! Time to call it quits, boys. Libertarianism has been debunked by a trendy clickbait hipster. They got us.
Milton Friedman demolishes the welfare state: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_q_Y0U1QcI
Our Green Party leader, Natalie Bennett, is a compelling reason to restrict Australian immigration to the UK.
But, beyond a caucus and a few talking heads, libertarians are very disorganized, and cannot organize in an effect manner. The Repubs want to keep libertarians from voting Libertarian inside the party, because they know they'll continue their own political monopoly. The Repubs are only fractured due to their success, not in spite of it. I assure you the GOP is not dying or fractured at all because when push comes to shove they can always organize enough of their base to counter any tea party person, libertarian, or Sarah Palin that tries to deseat the neocon hegemony and power structure. Just look at the midterm congressional elections for example.
I very much believe that the Republicans would be friendlier to a Libertarian president. In a multi-party system, creating a coalition with the libertarians would be mandatory to get Republican views - no, not economic but foreign, domestic, and social, to have a chance against the Democrats (or perhaps similar liberal alliances). No, libertarians would be able to bargain with the Republicans - for power, positions, and to push an agenda, perhaps not dissimilar to the liberal democrats of the UK (although hopefully with better leaders). I can tell you this much: If every libertarian Libertarian voter, Rand/Ron Paul Republican voter, and non-voter had voted for Gary Johnson in the 2012 elections, the Libertarian Party would of either got over the 5% vote required for federal funding and equal ballot access, or pretty damn close. If that 5% mark is passed, it would cause shockwaves and likely attention would be turned to the political system itself - maybe amidst calls for reform, and hopefully put us on track to defeating the two party behemoth. But what about Rand Paul? Do you think - for what we've seen from Obama do a 180 on his political positions - that Rand Paul would be similarly immune unless he replaced every cabinet member with a similar libertarian? What is he going to do, appoint his dad as Federal Bank leader? No. (oh if only Friedman were alive again!)
Personally, i think it's morally repugnant to vote for a party that wishes for endless war to fund their Keynesian style stimuluses, restrict gay marriage and drugs, support the Patriot Act, etc. It is almost as if all the worst positions took form.
It's almost like the article makes the perfect case against itself...
Wow, some people really hate us.
Woops, wrong account :)
True. But these kind of people will say that the financial crisis was caused by a non-regulated finance system.
Too bad the medias and the Keynesians put that in most of the people's mind.
Usually, a good thing to do when somebody says that is to quote Krugman : http://static.safehaven.com/authors/berwick/22363_b.jpg
There will be a long silent and then you'll see if they are ready to hear some truth about Clinton's cheap housing program, Fannie Mae and the GSE system.
But most of the time, don't waste your time, they'll say this is bullshit because of their intellectual sloth, and they will tell you again that this is a non regulated finance that created this bubble, even if they don't know what regulations should have been implemented.
It appears our old buddy Kanatistan has gone to North Korea.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=9731882
Yep.
They'll probably grow so tired of him that they'll throw him out by the end of the week.
Just wait.
I look at all the lonely people
A German libertarian posted this on facebook. I'll let you decide if it's funny or in good taste:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10940434_909967399037866_8766980936600935805_n.jpg?oh=01c415503582ea981b958aa529f50e09&oe=556F1958&__gda__=1431934176_6ef6185571ca0d3dc7237cb786bf7e86
Damn
Errrrr... I'm not comfortable with that. I'm not gonna make a fuss though.
It's not funny, but it's true.
Lol
I have a bleak and depressing sense of humor, so don't mind me.
I can't see the link so I'm really sad because I don't know what everyone is talking about.
A meme:
But without government
Who will build the death camps?
Now I kind of wish that I didn't know what everyone was talking about.
I know that feel
Random and inappropriate. Here's a better one:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10940407_957475297613473_248669724585958234_n.jpg?oh=4ba44252ad5c44bbdb21ae56a41226a9&oe=555F73CC&__gda__=1431107717_844d03d82d92548267f7d63c1126ba4a
*applause*
Yay!
Dark humor>all
I don't want to wait ten days to become a damn citizen :/
Then try convincing the Honorable Chairman of the board that the time for someone to become a citizen should be reduced. Pev could start a bill that would go threw the regional government to change that.
With the way you're showing contempt for our laws, I don't want to make you a damn citizen.
And I thought this was an anti-state, anti-bureaucracy region O_O
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