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Miencraft wrote:But you're not on the first page of the Census Report.

Ik.

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Is the game "Superpower 2" good?

I don't know about you guys, but I strongly dislike Allen West.

Pevvania wrote:I don't know about you guys, but I strongly dislike Allen West.

Can't say I'm a fan.. but why?

Muh Roads wrote:Can't say I'm a fan.. but why?

He's become a national leader of the Tea Party, despite being an obnoxious neo-con that voted for the NDAA, PATRIOT Act and to stay in Afghanistan longer. He frequently attacks "radical Islam" and has made some downright stupid comments about the President and the Democratic Party (he once called them "closet communists"). He's just an asshole, really.

http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2011/03/24/allen-west-tea-party-statist/

Speaking of statist....

Pev, what is your opinion on Margaret Thatcher, the so called Reagan of Britain?

What do ya'll think bout' Hearts of Iron III?

I have only seen it in YouTube it's awesome. I would play as an axis allied usa.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Speaking of statist....

Pev, what is your opinion on Margaret Thatcher, the so called Reagan of Britain?

I think she was a great, great woman. Like Reagan, she too had some statist tendencies - centralising government power in London, for example, and banning semi-automatic weapons. Her ideology has been called by some political commentators "libertarianism by force". But like Reagan, her great accomplishments in office outweigh her failures - smashing the socialist state, cutting spending and taxes, deregulating industry, and so on.

Watch this stomach-quenching video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oczj6thd4CY&list=PL-DfNcB3lim9IZmUXEjE1Ov0Ir1NDa3Yr&index=11

BNP is an abhorrent party of racists.

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Pevvania wrote:Watch this stomach-quenching video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oczj6thd4CY&list=PL-DfNcB3lim9IZmUXEjE1Ov0Ir1NDa3Yr&index=11

BNP is an abhorrent party of racists.

They are idiots. Plain and simple.

Minerva, what is your opinion on Thatcher?

Ipian wrote:They are idiots. Plain and simple.

And some people call Libertarians Fascist..

Pevvania wrote:Watch this stomach-quenching video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oczj6thd4CY&list=PL-DfNcB3lim9IZmUXEjE1Ov0Ir1NDa3Yr&index=11

BNP is an abhorrent party of racists.

It's almost scary.

The Amarican Empire wrote:I have only seen it in YouTube it's awesome. I would play as an axis allied usa.

I'll definitely get it then.

What do you all think of World of Tanks? Do any of you play it?

this is awesome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZfRaWAtBVg&hd=1

Pevvania wrote:Minerva, what is your opinion on Thatcher?

I am already skeptical of Reagan, as I prefer the Old Right in America. Thatcher, for all her merits, I cannot chalk up to be libertarian in the slightest. Economically? Perhaps. But socially she could just be another neo-con. The poll tax, endorsement of Pinochet, and causing two recessions by bad monetary policy despite her efforts to reduce inflation aren't libertarian actions.

Everybody needs to take a stand against this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x2ZyXWHeMw

The Amarican Empire wrote:this is awesome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZfRaWAtBVg&hd=1

Lol

Rotgeheim wrote:What do you all think of World of Tanks? Do any of you play it?

Yes, I have played it. I never was really good at it and never liked it. Just my opinion.

The Amarican Empire wrote:this is awesome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZfRaWAtBVg&hd=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYQhRCs9IHM

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I am already skeptical of Reagan, as I prefer the Old Right in America. Thatcher, for all her merits, I cannot chalk up to be libertarian in the slightest. Economically? Perhaps. But socially she could just be another neo-con. The poll tax, endorsement of Pinochet, and causing two recessions by bad monetary policy despite her efforts to reduce inflation aren't libertarian actions.

I love the Old Right, their noninterventionism aside. I never said that she was a libertarian, but some have portrayed her as such. I don't agree with the more authoritarian points in conservative philosophy, but nevertheless I like a lot of conservatives like Reagan and Thatcher for the progress they achieved. The poll tax was a terrible policy, I agree with that, Pinochet was an asshole but had the right idea economically and I'm no monetary expert so I can't really comment on that. Hayek and the Iron Lady exchanged letters on government policy for a time, and he actually recommended that her monetary contraction was not going far enough - he wanted to raise interest rates so high that inflation was whipped immediately.

Also, I greatly admire Robert Taft. He's an American hero who not only led the New Deal's dismantling but also prevented it from expanding any further. He's the number one reason America did not become a socialist state.

Ipian wrote:Yes, I have played it. I never was really good at it and never liked it. Just my opinion.

You obviously have never driven any German vehicles, then.

POLAND IS MIIIIIIINNNEEE! Take that Russia...

Hello. I am the new Official Ambassador of The Commonwealth of Free Nations to the region of Libertatem.

Commonwealth Of Free Nations Ambassador1 wrote:Hello. I am the new Official Ambassador of The Commonwealth of Free Nations to the region of Libertatem.

Welcome, friend. I hope you enjoy your stay!

On the topic of American leadership, I personally admire Calvin Coolidge and his Secretary of the Treasury Andrew Mellon.

Commonwealth Of Free Nations Ambassador1 wrote:Hello. I am the new Official Ambassador of The Commonwealth of Free Nations to the region of Libertatem.

Hi. Get a complementary Libertatem cookie while you're here.

السلام عليكم يا أصدقائي، قد نور الله تألق في الفكر هنا لي.

!السلام عليكم أخي

I'd say more, but I'm only one semester into العربية. :(

Commonwealth Of Free Nations Ambassador1 wrote:Hello. I am the new Official Ambassador of The Commonwealth of Free Nations to the region of Libertatem.

Greetings, esteemed ambassador. I, in turn, will send an ambassador to the Commonwealth, seeing as I do not believe there is one there already. Enjoy your stay in Libertatem.

The New United States wrote:!السلام عليكم أخي

I'd say more, but I'm only one semester into العربية. :(

آه ..... يا للعار يا صديقي ولكن يجب مساعدة الله لك فهم اللغة الرئيسية.

Xurinimo wrote:لعربية?

Hey, do you like liberty and freedom?

Commonwealth Of Free Nations Ambassador1 wrote:Hello. I am the new Official Ambassador of The Commonwealth of Free Nations to the region of Libertatem.

Hiya.

Just thought I'd drop in and say hello peeps.

Einsiev wrote:Just thought I'd drop in and say hello peeps.

Instead of dropping in, how about sticking around?

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Hey, do you like liberty and freedom?

بالطبع يا صديقي، أعبد الله إله الحرية. هذا هو السبب في أن أقدم له

Miencraft wrote:Instead of dropping in, how about sticking around?

Einsiev wrote:Good point.

I can't believe that worked. Anyway, hi, Einsiev.

I just conquered Ireland as the UK in HOI 3.

Ipian wrote:I just conquered Ireland as the UK in HOI 3.

Ipian, I feel you have shown your dedication to the region and see no reason to withhold your citizenship any longer. I will restore it today if you send me another app.

Xurinimo wrote:بالطبع يا صديقي، أعبد الله إله الحرية. هذا هو السبب في أن أقدم له

So you are polytheistic? (probably not, damn translator)

Newport Plantation wrote:On the topic of American leadership, I personally admire Calvin Coolidge and his Secretary of the Treasury Andrew Mellon.

Are you serious? I don't know whether to laugh at this or to hit you?

Pevvania wrote:Also, I greatly admire Robert Taft. He's an American hero who not only led the New Deal's dismantling but also prevented it from expanding any further. He's the number one reason America did not become a socialist state.

Anyone who helped to halt that work of spoon-fed socialism deserves to be called a hero in my book.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:Are you serious? I don't know whether to laugh at this or to hit you?

hahaha

Get out.

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Pevvania wrote:Also, I greatly admire Robert Taft. He's an American hero who not only led the New Deal's dismantling but also prevented it from expanding any further. He's the number one reason America did not become a socialist state.

Are you some kind of stupid?

I saw that message Grimes. You cannot hide from me.

First of all, trickle down economics didn't really "exist" back then. Also, Coolidge was before the GD, that was Hoover who are you thinking about.

I guess the president who decided the depression would fix itself and was extremely racist and sexist, and his treasurer that actually reduced taxes on the rich several times during his tenure, should be considered admirable leaders? They sucked. You get out, sir.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I saw that message Grimes. You cannot hide from me.

First of all, trickle down economics didn't really "exist" back then. Also, Coolidge was before the GD, that was Hoover who are you thinking about.

yeah I realized I made a mistake, check that new one boss

and he saw it coming. He knew that everything was going up and up and it would all come tumbling down eventually, but he didn't really do anything about it. And sorry I confused him and Hoover, they both sucked after all and ruined the beautiful dynasty of Republican presidents.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:I guess the president who decided the depression would fix itself and was extremely racist and sexist, and his treasurer that actually reduced taxes on the rich several times during his tenure, should be considered admirable leaders? They sucked. You get out, sir.

Umm, under Coolidge, rights for blacks and Catholics increased. Despite his inaction, he spoke out in favor of civil rights.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/calvin-coolidge-civil-rights-pioneer-91065.html

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Dictator Earth wrote:YOU FACIST PUNKS WILL NEVER OWN THE UCR NOT AS LONG AS CE IS IN POWER!!!!!!!!

Run along.

Dictator Earth wrote:YOU FACIST PUNKS WILL NEVER OWN THE UCR NOT AS LONG AS CE IS IN POWER!!!!!!!!

HEIL COOLIDGE HEIL REAGAN BOW TO ZE MASTER LIBERTARIAN RAZE!

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Umm, under Coolidge, rights for blacks and Catholics increased. Despite his inaction, he spoke out in favor of civil rights.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/calvin-coolidge-civil-rights-pioneer-91065.html

A petty and ignorant racist at the end of the day, is still a petty and ignorant racist. There is no room in a country promoting freedom and justice for anyone of any ideology that would rather see to it that those things don't happen. And it's not like it really matters? The actual civil rights movement didn't even really start until the 60s, even with blacks like Jackie Robinson and Sammy Davis Jr breaking down the race barrier before things really started rolling.

Dictator Earth wrote:YOU FACIST PUNKS WILL NEVER OWN THE UCR NOT AS LONG AS CE IS IN POWER!!!!!!!!

lol just gtfo haha like just leave haha. ooo we're so scared that you came to our region haha. Nobody is intimedated. Nobody cares. Nobody likes you. BUBYE

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:A petty and ignorant racist at the end of the day, is still a petty and ignorant racist. There is no room in a country promoting freedom and justice for anyone of any ideology that would rather see to it that those things don't happen. And it's not like it really matters? The actual civil rights movement didn't even really start until the 60s, even with blacks like Jackie Robinson and Sammy Davis Jr breaking down the race barrier before things really started rolling.

Show me an example of Coolidge being a "petty and ignorant racist."

Also, the civil rights movement had been going since the first abolitionists came about.

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Dictator Earth wrote:NOW LISTEN HERE YOU @#$%@$%*&% 'S WE WILL STRIKE BACK AT YOU ONE DAY IN THE DISTANT UTURE.

And thankfully whatever puny army UCR will manage (alone probably) will be decimated by the war machine of REATO.

Ta-ta now.

Dictator Earth wrote:NOW LISTEN HERE YOU @#$%@$%*&% 'S WE WILL STRIKE BACK AT YOU ONE DAY IN THE DISTANT UTURE.

OKAY THAT SOUNDS VER NICE THANK YOU GOOD BY

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Republic Of Minerva wrote:Show me an example of Coolidge being a "petty and ignorant racist."

Also, the civil rights movement had been going since the first abolitionists came about.

Well he really enjoyed that KKK march in DC, didn't he?

Dictator Earth wrote:NOW LISTEN HERE YOU @#$%@$%*&% 'S WE WILL STRIKE BACK AT YOU ONE DAY IN THE DISTANT UTURE.

ok bud hahahaha

Dictator Earth wrote:y'all will rue this day. a year from now CE will bring the region to unimaginable levels. Mark my words.

What's this? I… I'm reading a message. It's from everyone ever. It says… wow… it says NOBODY CARES

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Dictator Earth wrote:y'all will rue this day. a year from now CE will bring the region to unimaginable levels. Mark my words.

That is quite unlikely, comrade.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:Well he really enjoyed that KKK march in DC, didn't he?

ok bud hahahaha

CC allowed the march to happen because it was the libertarian thing to do, instead of go and arrest them like more statist presidents might of done. (I know Obama would of.)

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Muh Roads wrote:Ipian, I feel you have shown your dedication to the region and see no reason to withhold your citizenship any longer. I will restore it today if you send me another app.

wooooooooooooooooooooooo

Muh Roads wrote:Ipian, I feel you have shown your dedication to the region and see no reason to withhold your citizenship any longer. I will restore it today if you send me another app.

I will tomorrow.

Ipian wrote:I will tomorrow.

No no, Friday.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:CC allowed the march to happen because it was the libertarian thing to do, instead of go and arrest them like more statist presidents might of done. (I know Obama would of.)

Yeah I would do it too. I think they don't deserve all the rights a good law fairing citizen has. Same with WBC members I would arrest them. You just can't do the things some of these groups do. a system like that invites abuse, but I don't think idiot racists should get to go around and hate on blacks or say "God hates fags" or especially "Thank God for dead soldiers/children!" That shouldn't be allowed.

God doesn't hate gays. He hates their sins. As do I.

Einsiev wrote:God doesn't hate gays. He hates their sins. As do I.

I can't even, Bahhhh. I won't argue with you because I am tired.

Einsiev wrote:God doesn't hate gays. He hates their sins. As do I.

GOD ISN'T REAL

There is so much wrong here but I am getting off, come at me in the morning you fundie.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:GOD ISN'T REAL

There is so much wrong here but I am getting off, come at me in the morning you fundie.

PROVE IT.

We have just as much chance of being in the matrix.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:GOD ISN'T REAL

There is so much wrong here but I am getting off, come at me in the morning you fundie.

I'm tired of you offending me and pushing non religion on me. It's frankly immature and ridiculous.

Hardcore atheism takes just as much faith as religion, methinks. The only difference is that atheism promotes no virtues, only disbelief and false-senses of superiority.

Einsiev wrote:I'm tired of you offending me and pushing non religion on me. It's frankly immature and ridiculous.

I'm tired of you offending me and pushing religion on me by saying, "I hate the sins of gays". It's frankly immature and ridiculous that human beings that love each other are persecuted by people like you.

The New United States wrote:Hardcore atheism takes just as much faith as religion, methinks. The only difference is that atheism promotes no virtues, only disbelief and false-senses of superiority.

No it doesn't. It's literally having no faith in any deity. I have faith in science and humanity. And it doesn't promote virtues because it ISN'T A RELIGION. I disbelieve religion because there is absolutely no evidence to suggest there is any higher power. And don't just say, "I believe in God, therefore he is real." Because that equates God to Santa Clause for adults, which he is. So you're just ripping on yourself if you say that. False sense of superiority? You believe that all thousands of land species animals on Earth were gathered by what, 8 people, in a few weeks? You believe that a man separated an OCEAN? Your God sent bears to kill... children.

But seriously, let's do this in the morning I just got on to check back real quick.

Friendly reminder:

I will be gone from the 16th to the 18th. Please send all inquiries about internal affairs to my deputies, Miencraft and Hallo Island

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:I guess the president who decided the depression would fix itself and was extremely racist and sexist, and his treasurer that actually reduced taxes on the rich several times during his tenure, should be considered admirable leaders? They sucked. You get out, sir.

Grimes, you're completely and utterly wrong on nearly all of your claims.

[B]Coolidge was not a racist[/B]

First of all, Coolidge was a very tolerant man. He was adamantly opposed to segregation, and managed to prevent the segregation of more federal agencies. He frequently pushed anti-lynching laws through Congress - but every attempt was blocked and filibustered by Southern Democrats. Women and minority federal employment grew under Coolidge, who frequently gave addresses to minority communities and attacked racism. He was a very strong believer in natural rights and abhorred racism. During a conversation with his secret service agent Edmund Starling, Starling referred to the White House butler, Arthur Brooks, as a “fine, coloured gentleman.” Coolidge immediately replied: “Brooks is not a coloured gentleman. He is a gentleman.” He gave citizenship rights to Native Americans, supported and expanded suffrage for women and was the second President (after his predecessor Warren Harding) of the 20th Century to speak out publicly about African-American rights. Because of all this, both Presidents commanded large majorities in the women's and minority votes. He appointed no new members of the Ku Klux Klan, whose influence decayed significantly during his term. In fact, immigration legislation that he signed into law was one of the killing blows to the Klan - with the end of mass immigration, the KKK no longer had a cause to fight for, and died.

Calvin Coolidge was not a racist. He destroyed the KKK.

http://www.calvin-coolidge.org/kkk-calvin-coolidge-america.html

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/conncarroll/2014/02/17/the-greatest-conservative-president-in-american-history-n1787876

[B]Hoover was not a laissez-faire President[/B]

Hoover was the one who you're referring to, and even then that statement is absolutely unabashed revisionist bullshit. The so-called laissez-faire, do-nothing President Herbert Hoover actually had a long list of 'achievements' to counteract what you're saying:

-Before becoming President, he had denounced laissez-faire thinking and earned a reputation as a progressive and a reformer.

-As Commerce Secretary under Harding and Coolidge, he pushed energetically for government intervention in the economy. His advice was nearly always rejected. Because of this, Coolidge referred to him mockingly as "the boy wonder". He once remarked, "For six years that man has given me unsolicited advice—all of it bad."

As President, he

-expanded the Department of the Interior massively.

-proposed a federal Department of Education

-created the Department of Veterans' Affairs

-proposed what became Social Security.

And you know how he reacted to the Depression? Exactly the way someone like you would've wanted to. He initiated a high-wage policy, and "persuaded" businesses across the country to keep wages high and not to lay off workers, so in a depression of falling prices, wages rose 12% between 1929 and 1933. This had the destructive effect of causing huge amounts of unemployment. Economists Richard Vedder and Lowell Gallaway found that Hoover's high wage policy and unwillingness to allow the price of labor adjust in accordance with all other falling prices (deflation was widespread after the Wall Street Crash) caused huge amounts of unemployment due to businesses refusing to hire more workers (they couldn't afford additional inflated salaries).

He began several public works projects, such as the Hoover Dam, that he tried to finance by enacting the largest peacetime tax increase in history. The top rate was raised from 24% to freakin' 63%. The Norris-La Guardia Act, which he pushed for and signed, was a pro-labour law that banned yellow-dog contracts and protected the "right" of employees to join a union. He ignited a trade war that cut American exports by over 70% with the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act. He started the Reconstruction Finance Corporation, which gave loans to failing businesses. He pushed states to give relief payments to the unemployed, and began allocating the first agricultural subsidies since the First World War.

This was all paid for by unprecedented deficit spending. He squandered the $700 million surplus left by the Coolidge Administration and grew the federal government enormously, hextupling the deficit from 0.8% to 6% of GDP. In 1932, the federal government took $2.0 billion in receipts and spent $4.6 billion in outlays, meaning it ran a deficit of $2.6 billion. This would be the equivalent if in 2007, instead of running the $162 billion deficit, the government ran a $3.3 TRILLION deficit. Hoover did exactly what the Keynesians would have wanted him to do - culminating in a delicious doubling of the debt to GNP from 20% to 40%. Rexord Tugwell, one of the architects of Roosevelt's New Deal, remarked that although no one would say so at the time, "practically the whole New Deal was extrapolated from programs that Hoover started".

Grimes, if you hate Harding and Coolidge, then I have no idea why you'd dislike Herbert Hoover.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/being-classically-liberal/was-herbert-hoover-a-laissez-faire-president/676111479089944

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Hoover#Presidency_1929.E2.80.931933

"Tax cuts for the rich" is an erroneous term that I detest very much. In nearly all the contexts it's used in, it is intellectually dishonest. In the case of Harding-Coolidge, you may demonise Mellon "cutting taxes for the rich" - which is true - but what you've omitted is that he cut taxes for everyone. In 1929, only the top 2% of Americans were paying income tax - all because those dastardly Republicans decided to lessen the burden on working families.

Einsiev wrote:God doesn't hate gays. He hates their sins. As do I.

Einsiev wrote:I'm tired of you offending me and pushing non religion on me. It's frankly immature and ridiculous.

You can't just start whining about your bigoted stances on controversial issues and not expect rebuttal. It isn't your religious right to say whatever you want without being challenged, and you sure have no right to hate anything about another human being because of your religion. And no one here is pushing anything on you. If anything, you are pushing your bigotry on us.

And remember, I don't hate you, I hate your religion. :-)

Pevvania wrote:

Calvin Coolidge was not a racist. He destroyed the KKK.

http://www.calvin-coolidge.org/kkk-calvin-coolidge-america.html

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/conncarroll/2014/02/17/the-greatest-conservative-president-in-american-history-n1787876

Fun fact: The KKK is still active in the town next to mine

Einsiev wrote:God doesn't hate gays. He hates their sins. As do I.

I don't hate your religion, I hate it's prejudice.

Your the one who started the fight, talking smack about my religion. You'll see one day. Then you'll wish you were right with God.

Einsiev, do you believe in equal rights for everyone?

Einsiev wrote:Your the one who started the fight, talking smack about my religion. You'll see one day. Then you'll wish you were right with God.

Neither of us started the fight, and I'm willing to take the chance that God exists and do nothing about it. And how can you be religious just to save yourself? You miss the whole point of religion. So, as for now, God can go eat a bag of d*cks.

Einsiev wrote:To an extent.

Define the extent.

For all fellow religious people here, Jesus said love you neighbor as you love yourself. How is telling non - straights that they can't love who they want loving them?

What if it was the other way around and it was said that liking the opposite gender was wrong, how would you feel?

Saying "I hate the sin, not the sinner" is like saying "I don't hate black people, but I hate that they are black."

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