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Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:You saw that too?

And then they said that it was hypocritical that we were restricting free speech - and it would be if it were true, yet we were opening it up so that their allies could actually talk.

Indeed, but the motivation of that tag raid wasn't our disapproval of their beliefs, or even because they're enemies of ours. The motivation was their aggression and imperialism towards weaker, non-combative regions that happen to have a different ideology. Namely, their savagery towards Benevolent Capitalism was particularly vile.

Jambion wrote:Thank you! I think I might want to stay here. I see that you don't like communists. I'm a moderate democrat, but the USSR was messed up.

Democrats are cool as long as they don't touch my wallet. :p

Indeed.

Pevvania wrote:Indeed, but the motivation of that tag raid wasn't our disapproval of their beliefs, or even because they're enemies of ours. The motivation was their aggression and imperialism towards weaker, non-combative regions that happen to have a different ideology. Namely, their savagery towards Benevolent Capitalism was particularly vile.

Well, I think they know how it feels to lose control of a region now. They cannot seem to hide their embarrassment.

Pevvania wrote:Indeed, but the motivation of that tag raid wasn't our disapproval of their beliefs, or even because they're enemies of ours. The motivation was their aggression and imperialism towards weaker, non-combative regions that happen to have a different ideology. Namely, their savagery towards Benevolent Capitalism was particularly vile.

Not to mention their aggression towards other leftist regions that deviate even the slightest from their narrow view of the world.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Democrats are cool as long as they don't touch my wallet. :p

But... isn't that pretty much all they do?

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Democrats are cool as long as they don't touch my wallet. :p

Indeed.

Also since you are in the WA I encourage you to endorse our new president, Miencraft.

Randompuppet wrote:Not to mention their aggression towards other leftist regions that deviate even the slightest from their narrow view of the world.

Yeah, that too. In their circles I hear talk of "leftist unity", yet not one of their allies raised even a finger in their defense in the 90 minutes we held Das Kommune. Perhaps those regions feel the same way about them.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Democrats are cool as long as they don't touch my wallet. :p

Indeed.

I'm not a scholar or anything, but I see taxes as a non-optional social convention that has been created by this society and government. It is essential. If we would have started a little differently, it would be different, but it's not.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Also since you are in the WA I encourage you to endorse our new president, Miencraft.

How do I do that?

Pevvania wrote:But... isn't that pretty much all they do?

Depends. Like Republicans, Democrats are a pretty big base that may encompass everything from moderate Labour-esque socialists to blue dog conservatives, and of course the "Liberty" Democrats which are like classical liberals.

Look up Mike Gravel, who was a former Democrat turned Libertarian.

Jambion wrote:How do I do that?

Click on the link of our president on the top of the page (next to the delegate tag), and then scroll to the bottom where it says "endorse" and click that.

Jambion wrote:I'm not a scholar or anything, but I see taxes as a non-optional social convention that has been created by this society and government. It is essential. If we would have started a little differently, it would be different, but it's not.

A lot of what we spend our money on is waste. The Libertarian idealizes a society that isn't built on government coercion, and idealizes the self regulating mechanic found in capitalism as a better alternative to government intervention. The government's job is therefore to make sure the three basics of society function: the police, military, and courts.

The secret service has transferred it's service to Miencraft?

Forget the question mark.

I didn't know we even had a secret service captain, much less one who doesn't want to see North Korea condemned.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:I didn't know we even had a secret service captain, much less one who doesn't want to see North Korea condemned.

Whatever. He's in the WA and endorsing Mien, so I don't really care if he's either one of ours or controlled by an enemy as a puppet. What we should really be looking at are those who just hang around in the region, don't say anything, and just gather influence.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Whatever. He's in the WA and endorsing Mien, so I don't really care if he's either one of ours or controlled by an enemy as a puppet. What we should really be looking at are those who just hang around in the region, don't say anything, and just gather influence.

That would be half our region, then.

I thought I had a longer time to be with hump. Goes to cry in the corner being humps former office.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Whatever. He's in the WA and endorsing Mien, so I don't really care if he's either one of ours or controlled by an enemy as a puppet. What we should really be looking at are those who just hang around in the region, don't say anything, and just gather influence.

I run the private presidential secret service.

The Amarican Empire wrote:I thought I had a longer time to be with hump. Goes to cry in the corner being humps former office.

Hump?

Jambion wrote:Hump?

Our Martyred President

Jambion wrote:Hump?

Humpheria, the recently resigned Sixth President of Libertatem.

Pevvania wrote:Humpheria, the recently resigned Sixth President of Libertatem.

Oh, makes sense. He was the one that sent me a message earlier today asking to come here.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:That would be half our region, then.

25% at most.

another 25% are friends that don't speak much or at all on the RMB but we can trust them. Example: Islands, A Voluntary Society, Milteria Pax Osca, Space Pirates, RR&RR now

Another 25% are puppets of everyone else. Ex: Silver Chair, GalactiCorp, Coolidgestein, Abe Licoln, His Honor the Dude,

The last 25% are active people who speak regularly on the boards.

Abe is the puppet tta used to insult Lincoln and the union.

I have just returned from the real world.

As I am now in control, it seems only natural that the Oath should be taken as soon as possible.

Whenever you see fit, Mister Attorney General, make the positions of myself and Roads official.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Abe is the puppet tta used to insult Lincoln and the union.

I know.

I dislike the Confederacy as a Northerner (hypocrites by large) but I have no love for the statist Abe Lincoln.

What do you guys think?

You got it.

I request RMB silence, please.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I dislike the Confederacy as a Northerner (hypocrites by large) but I have no love for the statist Abe Lincoln.

What do you guys think?

Agreed.

Anyway, I'm about to administer the Oath. Hang on a sec...

RMB silence begins now.

Please repeat after me. I, Miencraft, do solemnly swear to protect, defend, and uphold the Constitution of Libertatem. I swear to execute the will of the People of Libertatem within the rightful extents of the law. I affirm that it is my solemn duty to defend Libertatem from all threats, foreign and domestic, to uphold the integrity of the region. I promise to uphold these obligations understanding the sanctity of my office, so help me God.

I, Miencraft, do solemnly swear to protect, defend, and uphold the Constitution of Libertatem. I swear to execute the will of the People of Libertatem within the rightful extents of the law. I affirm that it is my solemn duty to defend Libertatem from all threats, foreign and domestic, to uphold the integrity of the region. I promise to uphold these obligations understanding the sanctity of my office.

I elect to abstain from swearing by God, however.

Miencraft wrote:I, Miencraft, do solemnly swear to protect, defend, and uphold the Constitution of Libertatem. I swear to execute the will of the People of Libertatem within the rightful extents of the law. I affirm that it is my solemn duty to defend Libertatem from all threats, foreign and domestic, to uphold the integrity of the region. I promise to uphold these obligations understanding the sanctity of my office.

I elect to abstain from swearing by God, however.

So, there is a new president now?

Jambion wrote:So, there is a new president now?

Indeed there is.

Now, I do believe I have to make official Roads' position, unless that too was done by the AG last time.

I can't even remember what happened last month...

Your line was "Thank you, Mr. Attorney General", but I'll take it.

This is the part where you swear in your Cabinet.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Your line was "Thank you, Mr. Attorney General", but I'll take it.

This is the part where you swear in your Cabinet.

Right then. I'll get on that soon. Eating food now, so...

Any idea when we will be holding the special election for Board Seat #5?

Funkytopia wrote:Any idea when we will be holding the special election for Board Seat #5?

No one ran against you. Right now, you're in it. Congratulations, and welcome to the Board!

Woot! That's my kind of election! ;-)

Er... Thank you Mr. Attorney General.

I support the confederacy on the grounds the North was going beyond it's constitutional powers by enacting acts such as the Missouri Compromise, Monroe Doctrine, and Kansas-Nebraska Act.

*sigh* Disregard my earlier requests for RMB silence. Just...talk amongst yourselves or something. We'll get the entire Cabinet sworn in later, hopefully within the next few hours.

Funkytopia wrote:Er... Thank you Mr. Attorney General.

I know you were trying to be formal there, but that made me laugh - the Board doesn't need to be sworn in or any of that stuff, so don't worry. :)

The Human-Equine Alliance wrote:I support the confederacy on the grounds the North was going beyond it's constitutional powers by enacting acts such as the Missouri Compromise, Monroe Doctrine, and Kansas-Nebraska Act.

Our founding documents say all men are created equal meaning all people not just white men.

Just to make this quick, since everyone takes the same oath;

Vice President and Manager Roads, General Pevvania, Manager Lack, and Mister Attorney General, please just copy this with your name in the blank as soon as possible.

I'm not going to bother copying it four times with different names, since it's the same oath. Let's just get to this.

I, ____, do solemnly swear to protect, defend, and uphold the Constitution of Libertatem. I swear to execute the will of the People of Libertatem within the rightful extents of the law. I affirm that it is my solemn duty to defend Libertatem from all threats, foreign and domestic, to uphold the integrity of the region. I promise to uphold these obligations understanding the sanctity of my office, so help me God.

I, Conservative Idealism in Libertatem, do solemnly swear to protect, defend, and uphold the Constitution of Libertatem. I swear to execute the will of the People of Libertatem within the rightful extents of the law. I affirm that it is my solemn duty to defend Libertatem from all threats, foreign and domestic, to uphold the integrity of the region. I promise to uphold these obligations understanding the sanctity of my office, so help me God.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Our founding documents say all men are created equal meaning all people not just white men.

Oh well. Which Article in the constitution does it allow the Government to free slaves until the 13th amendment which was not there during that time.

By your logic It is constitutional law almost to have welfare.

Equal under the law not economics.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:I, Conservative Idealism in Libertatem, do solemnly swear to protect, defend, and uphold the Constitution of Libertatem. I swear to execute the will of the People of Libertatem within the rightful extents of the law. I affirm that it is my solemn duty to defend Libertatem from all threats, foreign and domestic, to uphold the integrity of the region. I promise to uphold these obligations understanding the sanctity of my office, so help me God.

Thank you.

I'm sorry guys for breaking the silence but I need to teach this racist a lesson.

The Amarican Empire wrote:I'm sorry guys for breaking the silence but I need to teach this racist a lesson.

Silence is already broken, man.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Our founding documents say all men are created equal meaning all people not just white men.

You can try to make the Civil War all about slavery all you like, considering many "historians" are attempting to do the same. The South would not have had my support, but I would not have stood with the North either. The fact of the matter is that an oppressive federal government took away the southern states' rights to peaceably secede. Lincoln is not a harbinger but a traitor to Republican principles due to his disregard of states' rights.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Equal under the law not economics.

Again last I checked that was not allowed still by way of a constitutional articles until the 14th amendment when it said they had "Equal protection under the law"

I'm sorry but the north violated southern right's and stepped outside those boundaries.

The Amarican Empire wrote:I'm sorry guys for breaking the silence but I need to teach this racist a lesson.

...I'm not a rasicts. I would have supported the freeing of the slaves. ON THE BASIS OF POPULAR SOVEREIGNTY!

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:You can try to make the Civil War all about slavery all you like, considering many "historians" are attempting to do the same. The South would not have had my support, but I would not have stood with the North either. The fact of the matter is that an oppressive federal government took away the southern states' rights to peaceably secede. Lincoln is not a harbinger but a traitor to Republican principles due to his disregard of states' rights.

I support states rights and the Confederacy because of that issue but I don't support slavery like tta.

The Amarican Empire wrote:I support states rights and the Confederacy because of that issue but I don't support slavery like tta.

You're missing something: TTA does not support slavery.

The Amarican Empire wrote:I support states rights and the Confederacy because of that issue but I don't support slavery like tta.

I don't support Slavery. it is slavery though that led to the issue of the State's rights.

The Human-Equine Alliance wrote:...I'm not a rasicts. I would have supported the freeing of the slaves. ON THE BASIS OF POPULAR SOVEREIGNTY!

The south was extremely racist until like the 80 so you support freeing the slaves in 1980?

I believe that when rights are threatened the feds must act. Most issues that the states today and back then whined about were economic like the high import tax.

The Amarican Empire wrote:The south was extremely racist until like the 80 so you support freeing the slaves in 1980?

I honestly have no idea what you are even saying anymore. I have never seen any mass racist activities all of my 17 years down here.

The Amarican Empire wrote:The south was extremely racist until like the 80 so you support freeing the slaves in 1980?

A vocal minority of Southerners were (and are), maybe. I theorize that in an alternate universe, the Confederacy would have ended slavery within twenty years of their formation were they not to lose (or participate in) the Civil War.

The Amarican Empire wrote:The south was extremely racist until like the 80 so you support freeing the slaves in 1980?

They'd be free wouldn't they and the war wouldn't have happened would it?

If the North could have made it a constitutional amendment first and then had the South Seceded I would have supported the North, but they didn't.

1980 was a guess. I guessed that because there was segregation until 1960.

Yeah. During the days leading up to the Civil War, the North was largely apathetic to slavery, though they were in the process of slowly phasing it out.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:A vocal minority of Southerners were (and are), maybe. I theorize that in an alternate universe, the Confederacy would have ended slavery within twenty years of their formation were they not to lose (or participate in) the Civil War.

Jefferson Davis wasn't even a Racist. He thought since the slaves he had were treated great like other family members he believed everyone did that.

The Amarican Empire wrote:1980 was a guess. I guessed that because there was segregation until 1960.

My grandfather was born and raised in Mobile and he lived there in the height of the segregation movement. He marched with black leaders. He served in Vietnam with four black men and they stayed in touch until they had all died. Of course all southern people are racist, right?

As soon as Albenia regains citizenship here (When will that be?) I am refounding the DRP Under it's New Face. The Face of Libertarian Reactionary Priciples

No, I didn't say that. But I am thinking that if most were not racist at that time then the people would have striked down segregation threw there state legislature. So it's either 51% and up were racist or most did not vote.

The Human-Equine Alliance wrote:As soon as Albenia regains citizenship here (When will that be?) I am refounding the DRP Under its New Face. The Face of Libertarian Reactionary Priciples

In order for Albenia to gain citizenship, it will need to be here for a month as a diplomat, since it CTE'd last time it was here and had its citizenship revoked as a result.

And also Roads will be in charge of IA by then, so you'll of course go to him for it.

And it's goddamn "its" not "it's".

"It's" is a contraction, man.

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Miencraft wrote:In order for Albenia to gain citizenship, it will need to be here for a month as a diplomat, since it CTE'd last time it was here and had its citizenship revoked as a result.

And also Roads will be in charge of IA by then, so you'll of course go to him for it.

And it's goddamn "its" not "it's".

"It's" is a contraction, man.

It's citizenship shall be restored when its here for a month? Why do you revoke citizenship due to a nation's CTE? Shouldn't there be like a month grace period?

The Human-Equine Alliance wrote:It's citizenship shall be restored when its here for a month? Why do you revoke citizenship due to a nation's CTE? Shouldn't there be like a month grace period?

The month grace period is the month where you don't CTE, man.

I mean, it's really up to Muh when he wants to restore its citzenship, but that's the way I would do it were I IA, and I think Muh might do something similar.

And yes...those grammatical errors are on purpose Mien.

The Human-Equine Alliance wrote:And yes...those grammatical errors are on purpose Mien.

I could tell because they were switched around and not both the same.

Miencraft wrote:The month grace period is the month where you don't CTE, man.

I mean, it's really up to Muh when he wants to restore its citzenship, but that's the way I would do it were I IA, and I think Muh might do something similar.

My God this region so goddamn bureaucratic. What the hell happened to the government 1 month ago when Albenia was able to regain citizenship after the trial...Which I can't even remember us having...Did we ever have that trial

Anyways I'm done talking about America's dark period. I support the south today and nothing else matters. I am neutral on the civil war. Both sides had faults plus my german side of the family were not in america until maybe 10 years after the war ended.

The Human-Equine Alliance wrote:My God this region so goddamn bureaucratic. What the hell happened to the government 1 month ago when Albenia was able to regain citizenship after the trial...Which I can't even remember us having...Did we ever have that trial

Albenia wasn't classed as a diplomat then...

Or maybe it was, but the restoration through the justice system generally bypasses the waiting time.

The Amarican Empire wrote:No, I didn't say that. But I am thinking that if most were not racist at that time then the people would have striked down segregation threw there state legislature. So it's either 51% and up were racist or most did not vote.

But just because of something that happened almost two centuries ago, you find it fitting to insult and defame my society and my culture. What if I just started throwing the true motives of the North at you? How they were too interested in their own monetary benefits. How they masqueraded behind the loving, caring hearts of a population to secure a statist empire? How they used the collective wealth of the people, the poor starving people, to crush the voices of the dissenters because one man with a scraggly beard made a pretty speech. You call my people racist, as if you would know.

I call for a special board vote to give tta citizenship with no waiting period. Tta has waited long enough.

Miencraft wrote:Albenia wasn't classed as a diplomat then...

Or maybe it was, but the restoration through the justice system generally bypasses the waiting time.

Then the hell was he classified as. An official citizen? To be honest I think we were planning on having the retrial then instating citizenship on Albenia.

Not that it matters since we never did fricken do the darn trial. For all I'm concerned I'm still here illegally and only turuly allowed here under a puppet because of Humph's little orders, which I'd assume go null and void when he leave, which he has.

The Human-Equine Alliance wrote:Then the hell was he classified as. An official citizen? To be honest I think we were planning on having the retrial then instating citizenship on Albenia.

Not that it matters since we never did fricken do the darn trial. For all I'm concerned I'm still here illegally and only turuly allowed here under a puppet because of Humph's little orders, which I'd assume go null and void when he leave, which he has.

We did have the trial, though, it's in the Criminal Records.

And, hey, that TG is long gone, so I have no idea if you checked the box or not. All I know is you got citizenship on it because you won it in an appeal, and then you managed to give it up again.

Also. some Political History of My Family.

1600s-1800s [Conservative Monarchist Supporters (Merchants)]

1800s-1940s [Lost data]

1940s-2008 [Republicans]

2008-Present [Mostly Republicans with a mix of Libertarianism (Me and my dad)]

Jambion wrote:But just because of something that happened almost two centuries ago, you find it fitting to insult and defame my society and my culture. What if I just started throwing the true motives of the North at you? How they were too interested in their own monetary benefits. How they masqueraded behind the loving, caring hearts of a population to secure a statist empire? How they used the collective wealth of the people, the poor starving people, to crush the voices of the dissenters because one man with a scraggly beard made a pretty speech. You call my people racist, as if you would know.

Northern faults ^. the south was racist not any more

The Amarican Empire wrote:I call for a special board vote to give tta citizenship with no waiting period. Tta has waited long enough.

I don't think the Board can give someone citizenship.

Then again, at the current time we have no IA manager, so...

Wow, Mike Gravel is one liberal I can get behind. If only the Democrats were as principled as this guy.

Oh wow this RMB moves fast..

Miencraft wrote:We did have the trial, though, it's in the Criminal Records.

And, hey, that TG is long gone, so I have no idea if you checked the box or not. All I know is you got citizenship on it because you won it in an appeal, and then you managed to give it up again.

...lemme look/

North Korea-Chan wrote:Oh wow this RMB moves fast..

Only because there's

1) New President

2) Something to discuss

Usually just sits for a couple of minutes, but sometimes it'll do this.

Really did this a lot back when the RLP Tyranny was a thing.

North Korea-Chan wrote:Oh wow this RMB moves fast..

We've got an active membership!

Oh! Iwaku RMB almost always moves fast.. I collect all the cute spammy nations!

Miencraft wrote:Only because there's

1) New President

2) Something to discuss

Usually just sits for a couple of minutes, but sometimes it'll do this.

Really did this a lot back when the RLP Tyranny was a thing.

MPA vs. RLP ah one of my most joyous times on thsi game.

2 hours ago: The Democratic Peoples Republic of Vandoosa of the region Glorious Nations of Iwaku proposed constructing embassies.

I wonder if this will be possible by the way..

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O and by the way I hate the north it is full of Socialist Millitant Atheists. That's why I plan on moving to the south one day. I am not against either region both he their faults. I prefer the south because of its economic beliefs and I can be Christian without hate.

Move to New Hampshire with me Amarican. It's full of Libertarians. And beer.

The Amarican Empire wrote:O and by the way I hate the north it is full of Socialist Millitant Atheists. That's why I plan on moving to the south one day. I am not against either region both he their faults. I prefer the south because of its economic beliefs and I can be Christian without hate.

Weird.. I am from the South and would like to move to the North to escape from religion.. We should trade places! Also I want more Winter.. South too hot..

The Amarican Empire wrote:O and by the way I hate the north it is full of Socialist Millitant Atheists. That's why I plan on moving to the south one day. I am not against either region both he their faults. I prefer the south because of its economic beliefs and I can be Christian without hate.

As a Libertarian Noninterventionist Agnostic, I feel offended...

that this is such an accurate depiction of the north.

North Korea-Chan wrote:Weird.. I am from the South and would like to move to the North to escape from religion.. We should trade places! Also I want more Winter.. South too hot..

Hello! Would you please spare me a moment to talk about our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Move to New Hampshire with me Amarican. It's full of Libertarians. And beer.

Can you call a helicopter down to JFK so they can pick me up and move me to NH?

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Move to New Hampshire with me Amarican. It's full of Libertarians. And beer.

But the north is cold. Can't libertarians move to Virginia or something so I have the best of both worlds?

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