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Region: Libertatem
On a mini vacation, please refer to humpy-bear for presidential manners.
Do we get to call him that?
There is nothing stopping you. It's not like humpy bear can punish you.
Morning all.
So, the Obama Administration has begun winding down the NSA's bulk data collection programs: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/243022-administration-moves-to-end-bulk-data-collection
All I can say is: thank you Rand Paul.
*chuckles*
Hey newcomers, we'd love to see some new faces on here, say hello!
Or don"t, we're a free region you know.
*grumbles*
Miencraft must have a fun job right now.
I've been pushing for special dispensation with regards to the quarantine period...no luck yet.
What
How do I increase population and economy.
I didn't want to wait 10 days
We generally won't waive the waiting period unless we need you for a military operation or you have resided here before.
You just have to wait for population, and your economy will increase based on how you respond to issues.
You mean I get to be President again? Yes, erm, I mean, ok.
Hallo Island
Yee Haw, Pardner.
Muh Roads
Post self-deleted by South Empire.
Hi. I've been playing this game for a few days. I came from The Pacific and after reading up on their documentation, I speedily joined the region whose recruitment telegram impressed me most; so here I am.
Pevvania, Muh Roads
Hello I'm new to this whole thing
Muh Roads
Hey, I'm new too. I created this first nation a few days ago and joined Libertatem because my nation is, well, liberal.
Muh Roads
Welcome all! If you have any queries or questions, ask me or Miencraft or any other senior member of the region and we'll do our best to answer.
Top tip: if you want to join, start or refound a party, just do so! There are next to no rules on the establishment of political parties, so go nuts!
Surprised to find that Obama is doing some relatively sensible things this year. Relations with Cuba, free trade and closing down bulk collection. Hopefully he and Congress can cut the corporate tax rate in this session too.
Thankyou
Obama cutting taxes? Hahahahaha
What's really going to happen:
https://www.facebook.com/Anarchyball/photos/a.638165932877746.1073741826.628208987206774/1022207391140263/?type=1&theater
It's his last full year before elections, gotta leave an impression so people vote for his party.
Or something like that.
At least he's not doing ridiculously stupid things.
So, how did you get the region to gain 80 members in five days?
I'm a recruiting wizard :p
Someone please resurrect my baby...
Hey, I'm new here too.
Welcome to Libertatem!
Question: I don't know how to do anything region wise, who would I be able to ask questions about this stuff?
You can ask away here if you like, most of us are pretty helpful :p
Roads is really a kickass president so far. Called it.
Right-Winged Nation, Muh Roads
Please, share your wizardry secrets with me, [nation=short]Vichtander[/nation], and The Confederation.
Muh Roads, Midland County
I think it's mostly stamps and a well-written recruitment telegram.
This really probably is it :P My reason for being here.
Thank ya!
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Also you'll need a lucky strike cigarette, a banana, blood of a first born lamb.... er wait that's for Tuesdays party. Just buy stamps and have a well thought out recruitment message.
Enjoy your Memorial day everyone. Thank you to the all the veterans, past and present.
Pevvania
Congrats to Pevvania for highest drug use!
Pevvania, Muh Roads
Isn't it funny that the nations with the best overall stats are called "anarchy"?
Muh Roads, Lionstar Saor
He really is
Muh Roads
Because it's true.
Muh Roads
*redirects attention to the moralistic democracy that is [nation=short]The New United States[/nation]*
Said the homophobe.
I'm not a homophobe.
What makes TNUS a homophobe?
You are joking?
Half.
You know what my response is, too?
Meh.
I don't care about what Ireland does, I don't live there.
It's still a large win for human rights.
And based just on how inflammatory half of the things you say are, I would wager that I'm much more tolerant than you, and I'm sure that I love homosexuals like you infinitely more than you'd ever love an evil, conservative Christian like me.
Pevvania
Gay leprechauns.
Someone had to say it.
Miencraft, Pevvania, Right-Winged Nation, Vichtander In Liberatem, Midland County
Gay marriage legalisation is a win for equality under the law more than anything else. Marriage is a very personal matter, and 'legalising' it for LGBTs wouldn't really change the institution very much, or society as a whole. It's progress for sure, but it's hardly a very big issue in the grander scheme of things. I resent that people feel they have to look to the state for permission to live their own lives.
Miencraft, Muh Roads, Vie To Vanquish
woo...190 damn.
Look at all the fresh newbloods, ready to fight in the field for capitalism. The socialists better watch out!
How do you figure?
Post self-deleted by Hallo Island.
Is this about to be one of those holier than thou "Jesus taught love" speeches?
I thought it was for freedom, not capitalism..
Synonyms...unless you want to be obstinate like A3, then yes we are fighting for "freedom" as in freedom from socialism of all forms.
What's the difference?
Miencraft, Vichtander In Liberatem
What's A3?
Anyway, my problem with capitalism vs. socialism as a measurement of freedom is that it is only one-dimensional. NationStates, in contrast, uses three dimensions as shown here: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/Updated_NS_Graph.png
The capitalism vs socialism spectrum is only the economic spectrum on here. And while economic freedom is important to me, I take a more moderate stance on it. The only spectrum I'm completely libertarian on is Personal Freedom. To use my personal nation as an example (It fairly well projects my political views), I have a "Left-leaning college state" and will probably in the future lie between it and "Civil-rights lovefest," but I highly doubt I'll ever be "Capitalizt" or "Anarchist."
You're going to fit in well here
Vie To Vanquish
To be fair, Barry isn't that bright, so I wouldn't trust a scale he came up with.
Pevvania
Also, can we recruit people who know how to read, please? I'm tired of people asking me for citizenship/a spot on the map without having actually read anything that any of that involves.
Seems like kind of a small pool at times.
He is a poor writer and understands very little about economics and public choice theory. Jennifer Government is just one big, messy straw man.
I think so :) I'm actually quite impressed with this region. I just need to set aside time for research in it; I've only yet read the constitution down to the amendments.
I thought so, but regardless, the concept of splitting political philosophies into a multi-dimensional scale is wide-spread. I only chose his because it's directly linked to the game :)
It's trashy Salon type fanfic for progressives.
Pevvania
You can't only judge him on one of his works. He's done some books that are actually very intriguing, and accurate.
Lionstar Saor
This region's population is almost 200?!?
President Roads confirmed for wizard
Miencraft, Vichtander In Liberatem
http://static2.hypable.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/dancing.gif
Miencraft, Vichtander In Liberatem
hai gaiz
honduras proves that libertarianism doesnt work
TAKE THAT ronpaulicans
http://www.salon.com/2015/03/02/my_libertarian_vacation_nightmare_how_ayn_rand_ron_paul_their_groupies_were_all_debunked/
Has anyone read machine man? Out of all his books I think that is the only one I really want to read.
Vichtander In Liberatem
What did I just read?
Pevvania, Vichtander In Liberatem
Seriously, why did I even go there... why? I should have stopped at salon.com.... but I didn't. I copied and pasted that link and now I feel nothing but anger & sadness inside. =P
Pevvania, Vichtander In Liberatem
Did Muh sign MEDAL?
Reason should start it's own news channel called RTV.
News with a libertarian lens 24/7, except when there is no news, then South Park episodes.
So like a classically liberal Fox News?
Yes!
Except we'll actually be enlightened unlike those slug brained religious neocons.
Pevvania
If I didn't I hereby do now.
For the Manager of Internal Affairs, the following nations have been retroactively awarded the Medal of Honor under MEDAL,
Snabagag,
Pevvania,
Humpheria,
Miencraft.
I'm confused, did you just give yourself a medal?
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/f/fc/Soldier_mvm_loot_common02.wav?t=20131122055148
Pevvania
That said, who the hell controls the Law nation?
There are still laws that need to be added to that list.
I can now, will have to gather the list of laws to be added... some help would be appreciated.
What kinds of libertarians are you guys?
Bleeding Heart/minarchist
We're all different here of course, but I identify as an anarcho-capitalist.
Read the bill, Hallo, you voted fo it.
All nations given holidays will retroactively receive the Medal because they now go hand in hand. I was given a holiday under President Miencraft. Pevvania was given a holiday under my administration. Miencraft was given a holiday under President Condealism (if I'm not mistaken).
While not complete, the presidential office is now open for business. Sorry about the delay.
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=muh_roads/detail=factbook/id=413425
I'm a voluntarist
Good man.
I'd call myself an an-cap, personally.
There are also some conservatives. We accept everybody.
I don't know what holiday I got or when it is, but I'll believe you. :P
What Kind of Libertarian Are You?
Your Result: Classical Liberal
89%
Classical liberals agree with the words of the Declaration of Independence: That all people have basic human rights, and that the sole legitimate function of government is to protect those rights. Most of the Founding Fathers, and most of the European philosophers who influenced them, were classical liberals.
84%
Geolibertarian
63%
Libertarian Partisan
62%
Paleolibertarian
34%
Objectivist
23%
Neolibertarian
0%
Anarchist
0%
Anarcho-Capitalist
http://www.gotoquiz.com/results/what_kind_of_libertarian_are_you
Oh? I know what kind of Libertarian I am...I mean it's in my name, but I'll take this quiz.
Your Result: Geolibertarian -84%
83%Paleolibertarian
61%Classical Liberal
44%Libertarian Partisan
30%Objectivist
10%Neolibertarian
0%Anarchist
0%Anarcho-Capitalist
Bad test. I am a Philosophical anarchist (AND NO THAT ISN'T A CHANGE IN IDEOLOGY).
It is a belief in
1. Decentralization of the State until you can't reduce it without harming society.
2. Legalization and Decriminalization of actions until legalizing something breaks society.
3. No moral obligation to obey an unjust law.
So Technically this is just Centrist Libertarianism taken to a more anarchic Social form since the economics will fall on the people to decide based on decentralization.
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