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Region: Libertatem
http://www.salamandersociety.com/foyer/salary/
Well maybe they should have waited
Caveman: I totally want more food than I need
Who Catholics or Mormons.
Mormons.
Mormons, Catholic Priests get payed what they need for life.
It's rational to want more food then you need. But moral? That depends on your faith.
The point is humans are naturally greedy, wether that's right or wrong is beside the point
I see greed as a survivalist's instinct. People are greedy because it secures their livelyhood and the future, giving them an advantage.
Translated in real life, greed can cause both good and terrible things to happen.
The best part of Catholic charity's is that the money is given willingly. Its not forced through the Government.
And it tends to be community based, resulting in less potential for fraud.
...No "Charity" is forced. It's simply the way they abuse the Charity that the Government must intervene.
The Government forces you to pay for Entitlement programs. Catholic Charity's are donations. Now tell me would Jesus take money by force?
In a way Entitlement programs are a forced Charity.
Not sure if joke.... Or just not a joke...
If I said yes would you hate me?
I'm saying the Government protects from fake charities.
"poly means many,tics means blood sucking Demons!" - Ted Cruz
I would not trust Demons with all that money.
Tics are actually Blood sucking insects.
The Government is corrupt. You would trust Government who attacked Mormons who then had to travel to Utah?
Government that attacked them isn't the one we have today....
1840s government doesn't equal 2000s
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.
Thomas Paine
Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomaspain100996.html#9f3JQf3pgoRWXHdQ.99
Exactly. Thanks T.P.
A moderator just called me...gay according to The other regions RMB.
Yes Government is necessary but do we really want the power of Government to grow?
lol
Amen.
Government is in a bad state. Today i say it is intolerable. We need to shrink the Government so the power of the people can grow!
Or reform it.....
Government isn't the problem, the system is great when it works properly. The problem is that we have some fairly terrible [I]people[/I] in government at the moment.
power is like Cigarettes. Its addicting and makes you want more while at the same time harming you and the people around you.
Not necessarily, not everyone who has power has to be a Macbeth or a Walter White.
I've been thinking to myself about how the government could limit itself without growing beyond what it should be.
Armed militias sounds good to me.
Belliger, government really is the problem. It corrupts and engulfs nearly all that attempt to change it. It has a naturally unlawful monopoly on force and all the means to enforce its control over individuals.
Yay, Militia!
I see a pro of this. However. How should these militias be based on?
States? Individuals? No organization?
Yeah just like the national guard.... Oh wait
How does one reform a government so tightly held onto by the corrupt and those only interested in their party's control on the country? It's almost impossible for any average citizen anywhere to do anything via reform or referendum. True change by the people nowadays is only truly achieved by violence. It is wasteful of your time to petition or protest because most government officials don't give a damn and you know it.
I want militias too
It doesn't have to be. It's the people in Government not the Government itself.
Hallo just got banned from the RMB for two weeks because apparently he was being homophobic.
That's actually pretty funny. Sucks for Hallo, though :(
I find it hard to see where you are coming from when so much as changed because of government (going to sound kind of cliché right now) just take a look at slavery or women's suffrage. Where would we be without the changes the government has made regarding these issues.
lol
Just how? That doesn't even make any sense!
Ok people, those are hours I will never get back.
Let me make this crystal clear:
Harassing anyone for their religion, their race, their gender, their preferences, or any other identifying divider people choose to group themselves in, or are grouped in by others, is not something we want to encourage on our site.
Recently, you were rudely harassed by another player with a rather militant attitude about certain agendas; more to point, being against what he saw as inflammatory remarks on your RMB against gays.
The irony that these comments were made by self-admitted gay members of your region, is not lost on us. However, in review, Hallo Island - who was rather central in several of those comments - was found to be in violation of harassing other region members for various points. Up to stating that if they didn't want to be made fun of, they shouldn't talk about it etc.
Only to then trot out that he can't be himself, and be seen as gay, due to his local issues.
This is an unacceptable double standard. Hallo Island has been given a 2wk RMB ban.
To everyone else, we strongly encourage better behavior when utilizing site resources. Take care in what you write. Everyone who looks can see it. Anyone can make a report. And what was stated, was found as offensive to several.
The other region and player have been sorted out. The resulting conversations have been cleared on both sides. And we expect everyone to behave better in the future.
Please reference the One Stop Rule Shop for any questions. Thank you.
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=260044
that is like a white Racist being racist against whites
The hell?
The gay person was being anti-gay? The moderators are becoming dumber and dumber.
I love this guy.
Alright, we won't do it again. Right, guys?
Your always invited! ;)
lolwat
Really mods? Really?
Screw that. I'm filing a report.
Not really a smart thing to say........
All of that was driven by the public. Governments MUST listen to public opinion.
...So what?
When I ask for your agreement, I MEAN IT.
I understand that you guys made those jokes in good fun. I understand that we were unfairly harassed. But the point remains that communication, especially miscommunication, can be extremely harmful. We must use our words constructively, and use it to build others up rather than tearing them down.
I say again, we won't do it again.
RIGHT, GUYS?
Hallo can say what he wants.
Can we just drop this whole thing with gays and the mods? The issue has been resolved. It's a shame Hallo has been RMB-banned, but at least we know we won't be subject to nasty abuse like what we saw before again.
La republica de cuba was banned... that's going to cause quite the stink.
La republica cubana socialista*
Not by anyone but those moderators.
Which they do, people just have to push hard enough for what they believe in. Some of the women involved in the suffrage movement were arrested and were subjected to police brutality, while others starved themselves so people would here them. People can't hold two parades and sign a petition and expect immediate attention or change.
I have started a regional petition to repeal the redress.
You do that, this should be done!
I can say whatever I want, I'm an American. #'Murica
Well, I'm gonna dance for no reason.
*does the Baila Tapatio with CI*
*sigh*
Dance señor!
Rrrrrrratatatata!
USA! USA! USA!
This is a private site with rules, so you really can't. You can pressure them to loosen the rules, but that's it. The majority want restrictions.
Where?
Go get NSG's support.
No, don't.
To those on the 'free speech' bandwagon, allow me to direct your attention to the 'Etiquette' section of the FAQ:
http://www.nationstates.net/page=faq
Thank you!
My point exactly.
But I'm also an american if I didn't make that clear, so yes I can. The majority doesn't matter. This is America! Where more people can vote for Al Gore but Bush wins because of the unfair electoral college. Why? Because screw the rules, because this is America!
The only bandwagon I'm on is the American one! #'Murica
Anything but Al Gore! Noooo!!!!
There are other people from other nations, on this site, as well.
The majority are not always right. Just like it was not right for the majority of the South to protect Slavery.
Manbearpig!!!
What they said.
You banned a gay person for being homophobic from what I'm understanding.
We protected States rights.
I know I have not been here long and you are free to toss what I am saying aside but the moderators are here to help protect this website and keep it as fun as possible. Tough some of the things they do may seem unfair I am sure they would not do anything without justification. We could all see that Hallo was making jokes with the rest of us but the mods did explain their position justifying it, so lets just wait for Hallo to serve his time get back and have a big laugh when he does.
lol of course you did.
Mhmm.
Their explanation begs to differ.
These moderators have been working to resolve this dispute between the two regions, and now have residents from both regions complaining. They're just trying to keep the peace and uphold the rules, and you guys are making hours of work for them.
I'm amazed they have the restraint not to do any more mutes or bans. But I wouldn't test it; quit making fun of them. Sheesh.
I'm sorry what? Non-americans? Well I'm in America sooooooo yeah.
Well the seceded because they couldn't handle #'Murica or not having a Southern Democratic president but more or less the America part.
Y'all, this site is private property. The mods can do whatever they damn well please, so get over it.
Moderators. I can't TG you back ermmmm. Can I have some examples on how he was being flammatory please?
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I am curious as to why your so concerned? I seriously doubt anything will change by you pestering them. Who knows though.
They didn't have to intervene, it was not necessary. They can expect some flak from the people of this site.
Well, this is a nightmare.
Nah, it's just another day in 'Tatem.
*slowly munches popcorn*
mmmmhmmm
'Tatem. *steals some of Minerva's popcorn*
*eats tacos* c]:}
Hail Lord Barry!
Consult the Max Fossil
NS is a great marketing tool. Lol
*gets even bigger box of popcorn, and covers the popcorn in chocolate.*
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