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Region: Libertatem
Congrats on the Judicial Reforms that have been made, guys. I just saw the TG poll about the courts and was like "whoa".
Also, what ever happened to the LOP? Or even the ACOP? Don't mean to feed the RLP h8rs, but it seems there isn't even any other parties with actual holdings in the government right now, unless I am mistaken. It seems there hasn't been a non RLP Board Member since January... weird. But not really I suppose. Whatever, just throwing that out there.
Humpheria
All dissidents have been assimilated or discarded.
Miencraft, Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes
I disbanded ACOP because it wasn't different enough from the RLP.
When nations can vote with their feet, opposition voices tend to wander off.
Miencraft
Hi! I'm here! In the cabinet! Go POG!
Humpheria
And today on weird things you see following legislation!
7 hours ago: Following new legislation in [nation=short]Right-winged nation[/nation], immigrant herding has become a national pastime.
Rateria, Teuberland, Awesomeface1122 Embassy
Oh, whoops guess i should have read the options
Teuberland
I got that long time ago.
Ladadada It's the one and only POG ladadada official opposition to the RLP.
Kings Island, The New United States, Humpheria
You make me whole.
Wovenland
[Quote=humpheria;14226742]And today on weird things you see following legislation!
7 hours ago: Following new legislation in [nation=short]Right-winged nation[/nation], immigrant herding has become a national pastime.[/quote]
1 day 2 hours ago: Following new legislation in Muh Roads, the nation's Medal of Honour can be found as a free toy in breakfast cereal.
It's true, Muh Roads brand breakfast cereal has that crispity crunchety taste you expect from public sourced cereal but with the ever lurking private industry danger of cutting your gums on war hero medallionsg.
#statistwin #bernie2016 #Nometalinmyoats
The New United States, Humpheria, Rateria, Teuberland
You need to follow my feed. Having almost no government gives fun effects.
[sarcasm]Wow what a prime example of RLP tyranny OMG[/sarcasm]
The New United States
Btw, is there actually still a Board or naw? I see the Board factbook hasn't been updated in a while if so...
They are extremely inactive. There are only four members and no one is even trying to fill the vacancy.
Teuberland, Lain Iwakura
I may start the Supermap RP soon. No one is making any new claims, and I came here as a reminder. Humpheria, do you want a claim?
Jason Unruhe - don't watch this guy's video's if you wish to keep your sanity.
I'm glad 'the no.1 Marxist on YouTube' still has less than 20000 subscribers and averages about 1000 views per video.
I tells a lot about Marxism, really.
Stephen Molyneux is smoking that biatch.
I would like to run to fill the vacancy, that is really sad actually, let's restore some dignity to the Board
Condealism, Austex, Lain Iwakura
What do y'all think about the electoral college also electing the Secretariat for 6 year terms and Supreme Court Justices, as long as they are confirmed by the Senate? I kind of like the idea! I also think that Senators should be appointed by the State government rather tben elected directly by the people like the House is. But then you'd have to make the House more democratic to balance it out. Do y'all think these are some good ideas?
Well, we're past running. It's been vacant for almost a month give me one sec.
Office of the President
Citizens of Libertatem,
By virtue of the power vested in me by the Citizenry as President of Libertatem and Commander in Chief of the Libertatem Armed Forces, and pursuant to the BOARD Amendment, ELECT Amendment, and other legislation; I hereby appoint the Honorable [nation=short]Ronald Reagan and Rick Grimes[/nation] to fill the current vacancy on the Board of Libertatem. This order shall be effective the Third day of October in the Year of Our Lord Two-Thousand and Fifteen.
WITNESS, my HAND and SEAL on this ORDER, Signed,
Humpheria
Dr. Humpheria, Jc.D
President of Libertatem VI X
Miencraft, Pevvania, Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes, Rateria, Condealism
Well, Greater Columbion, before I continue you should know that American government trivia, history, and functions is kind of my thing. ([nation=short]Right-winged nation[/nation] and many others here can attest.)
1. I assume you mean the Cabinet when saying the Secretariat. Here's the issue with that. I know two members of the Electoral College, they go to the state capitol in December and just vote how they're told. Having their power increased wouldn't be plausible. Additionally, the Cabinet are meant to be the Presidents' advisors. Election of Supreme Court Justices would be counter to the concept of balance of powers. The President appointing and the legislature confirming is their branches' check on the Judiciary.
2. I strongly favor a repeal of the 17th amendment. The Senate has become a House of Representatives' Part 2, and that wasn't the intent. The House is the peoples' representative and the Senate is the states' representative in the Federal government. This understanding is fundamentally in conflict with the 17th amendment.
Miencraft, Pevvania, Greater Columbion, Austex, Lain Iwakura
Excellent - we have a full Board.
Question is, what do we do with it?
Rateria, Teuberland
Finally pass the ROADS amendment, obviously.
Miencraft, Kings Island, The New United States, Right-Winged Nation, Muh Roads, Rateria, Condealism
Dear God
The New United States, Muh Roads, Rateria, Condealism, Lain Iwakura
Yes?
...
Condealism, Teuberland
Yes that is what I mean, but they also do many other functions besides advising the President. I'd actually rather vote for the Secretariat and then have them appoint the President as the Head of State and spokeman for the Secretariat, so that way, the Secretariat would act as a collegial Head of Government. I am aware that the Electoral College votes as they are told. They do so by making a pledge to the party, often making a pledge to vote whoever wins in the popular vote (not always the case though), and because they are appointed by the Parties, the parties of each State essentially vote for the candidates. Though the Electoral College is usually for nominating candidates, as the Senate is typically the one who confirms them. So it would just work the same way.
With Supreme Court Justices, because they are such a vital role in our system, they should have to be elected, albeit for life, but still elected. There is still a balance of powers, just because you elect them does not mean that that goes away.
I am fully aware of how the Constitution currently structures things, but just because it says it in the Constitution does not mean it is perfect. There were a lot of compromises and stupid things put in there, and I believe it would be better structured this way. Plus, if you elected the Secretariat and gave them more power, the would act as a better balance of power to counter balance the fact that the Judicial branch is now voted for (still for life though).
I definitely agree though that the 17th Amendment is stupid. The Senate should represent the States and was meant to be a Republican Nobility, that would be used to counteract the impassioned whims of the House.
Kings Island
*Dr. Farnsworth voice*
Good news everyone! My government has ended its subsidization of special interest groups! Here come the tax cuts!
Pevvania, Rateria, Greater Columbion
Hi guys, I'm back from my long vacation
The New United States, Humpheria, Muh Roads, Rateria, Condealism, The Aradites, Teuberland, Lain Iwakura
Well, the DSU just invaded Zentari
Yea, it's nothing big, though. Delivering a little blow to REATO once in awhile for training purposes is pretty fun. Libertatem should be aware of us in the DSU. While TRF targets fash regions, we will make sure that the Reaganites get kicked around occasionally.
Eh, you guys are pulling out anyway.
New Flag,
New Face,
Mhomen Reloaded
Coming Winter 2015
The New United States, Humpheria, Muh Roads, United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen, Rateria, Condealism, Teuberland, Lain Iwakura
Perhaps I was being naive when I assumed you reds weren't going to divert troops from GGR, especially for such an exceptionally petty display.
Don't make this harder than it needs to be. You've seen what we're capable of when we're riled up, yet you continue to provoke us by striking at our less secure associates. We might be willing to cut you some slack if you focus on painting the Nazi regions crimson, but I'd advise you to take your training sessions out of libertarian territory if you'd like to stop losing regions.
Besides, I already know how this is going to turn out. Regardless of whether or not you finish off GGR - and don't get me wrong, I sincerely hope you succeed there - you'll eventually bite off more than you can chew and ask us for support against the fascist war machine. And right now, we don't have a single reason to help you. Not a damn reason.
If you're honest about your goal of antifascism, you'll see it's not so hard to give us one. Might want to plan for the future by getting on that.
I'm gonna leave the rest of the arguing to someone else, but I really don't think the SCOTUS should be a lifetime gig, especially the way it is now, and even moreso if they're elected.
I mean, I get why they didn't bother putting terms on them in the first place; they didn't really think the SCOTUS would be able to actually do anything, because they didn't say it could do anything, but if we're gonna balance out the Court I think we should leave it how it is, just put in a term of 10 years or something then you're out forever.
Greater Columbion
I fully support this concept. I am working on a similar amendment for model legislature.
Miencraft, Greater Columbion
Yesterday, I was doing volunteer work for a food bank and going door to door. One house on my street didn't so I left but then my eyes went down to the plate of the car and around it was a holder that said: WHO IS JOHN GALT? Immediately, I was making a double take but sure enough it was there. Also, there was a car sticker that said Atlas Will Shrug. I was super overjoyed because finally there was most likely another libertarian in my town. I thought that I was the only one, but now I feel less alone.
Miencraft, Republic Of Minerva, Humpheria, Rateria, Teuberland
They weren't there or were they going all out Objectivist and denying assistance?
This is where I realize the irony of it all.
But I do think they were out as later, another car was there that's usually there so they must have two cars.
Teuberland
Well the thing they had in mind about it being for life, was so that they would be as far removed from politics as possible. I just think electing them would be better then appointment, but I don't feel quite as strongly about this then I do the other things.
I was curious. A lot of people love Atlas Shrugged but won't take Objectivism to heart. Personally I think Libertarianism works because people do what the government would not do under Libertarian rule. Objectivism would make things harder in terms of social welfare.
Greater Columbion
It's hard to be objective about objectivism huh? ;)
Rateria, Teuberland
I suppose so, I suppose so. I've heard online that Rand used government aid while being treated for lung cancer. Has anyone else heard that, and is it true?
Greater Columbion
It wouldn't surprise me. Everyone is a hypocrite when it comes to their life. Plus, politicians are even more so.
Two good justifications:
1.) Ayn Rand was primarily an egoist - she had little qualms becoming the moocher she despised, as it didn't conflict with her principle of rational egoism.
2.) It's her tax money that was taken from her to fund these services.
Greater Columbion
Good evening, guys.
This is Unfallious everybody.
He will be replacing Condealism (after Condealism's resignation) as the temporary Peoples' Attorney to argue for the respondent in Humpheria v. Libertatem.
Wow, I so thought we were talking about Rand Paul lol
Teuberland
I hereby grant you a visa and permission to temporarily take up my role as People's Attorney, as I will be unable to attend the case's proceedings.
Humpheria, The Aradites
Finally updated the map. Took forever
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=baxten/detail=factbook/id=488171
A non-native, who is unlikely to possess an adequate understanding of our laws, is really going to be the respondent?
Relax. I've briefed him.
He will be bringing you in as the nonspeaking plus one, I assume.
Now that looks reeeaall niiiice
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BahWzyOIQAAExft.jpg
Also, thank you for the appointment, Mr President. Now, would someone happen to know who the other Board members actually are, and whom is its Chairman?
Right - TNUS should be the one to assist the defense, but this is something for the acting PA to decide.
I think I'm one of you...
Unpopular opinions anyone (among people in general, not just leftist and conservative contemporaries)?
Mine would be that sexualizing the human body is unhealthy and senseless, because there is no logical reasoning to support sexual attraction to the various body parts. Not necessarily nudism, though it would be a tool in preventing the idea of sexualizing the body.
Condealism
Seat One: Ronald Reagan and Rick Grimes
Seat Two: The Aradites
Seat Three: Miencraft
Seat Four: Right-winged nation
Seat Five: The New United States
There is currently no Chairman.
Yeah, but then you get them magically living to be 40 billion just to spite everyone so that a terrible Justice brought in by a terrible President is forever being a terrible part of a table with eight other guys in robes.
Point is, if you put in terms for the SCOTUS (the Justices of which, to my knowledge, can't be removed unless they die or retire), then you avoid the problem of having idiots in it for life. At worst, you'll have idiots in it for a few years and then they can never be a Supreme Court Justice again in their life. Should probably also be some process for getting them out early in case they're really exceptionally bad at their job, but I have no idea how that would be implemented. Maybe the Senate could do something, since they're the ones that confirm the nominations in the first place?
Humpheria, Greater Columbion
What?
I mean, biologically, there's plenty of reason to get turned on by seeing sex organs; you're kind of supposed to stick something into them/get them stuck into something in order to perpetuate the human species.
As for the non-sexual organs, there's probably also a very valid scientific reason for that, but that's more into the crazy realms of psychology, which is really interesting, but I don't think I can adequately explain it. But it really just boils down to the way people develop psychologically and what they end up being attracted to as a result.
Teuberland
The House can draw Articles of Impeachment just like with a president. It's tried by the Senate.
Greater Columbion
Oh, cool, didn't know that.
Well, then we just do that and the term thingy and SCOTUS should be all sorted out!
Greater Columbion
SCOTUS term limits is my man crush almost-Monday.
Pevvania please record this in the factbook.
Something like that. However that doesn't explain the very existence of nudism. You could go into talking about asexuality but I know nudists (philosophically but not practically one myself) and they are in no way asexual. My hypothesis for the attraction to what are termed as secondary sex characteristics is what you said. It's conditioning rather than nature, which explains why East Germans go nude to the beach and West Germans don't. One society became highly socially progressive while the other one predominately conservative.
My promo for nudism would be that by conditioning individuals to the sight of the human body, fetishes oriented to those hidden parts of the body (here's looking at you breasts *ba dum tss*) will weaken, because they would no longer be so forbidden (the same idea has been applied in the debate on the legalization of drugs). As you may notice in your stereotypical cheerleader, the perception of the female self is heavily influenced by the interpretation of their body. Thus, by promoting a society where that body is irrelevant, and the inner person relevant, issues like eating disorders will decline. I'd encourage anyone to try practicing nudism, though I can't myself since I'm not one to start drama since I still live at home with a family that is constantly there.
Herr Meincraft, do you have any controversial opinions yourself?
Agreed, though I'll admit that, as an asexual, I'm particularly biased in this regard.
Not that I'm advocating people going around nude; there's still aesthetics, social/cultural connotations, and practicality to consider as well. It's just that our society seems fixated on making aspects of a practice generally performed in private so very, very public, even in just the context of body parts: Intentionally invoking a supposed societal philia for, say, breasts in commercials and the like. I fail to comprehend this fixation, or at least some aspects of it.
Teuberland
Somewhere, thousands of years ago, a Greek dude was all like "dat ass."
A fetish was born.
Rateria
Good to know.
Teuberland
A legitimate hypothesis: when clothing came about, it was used practically for a time, and eventually what was practical became cultural and ingrained in the peoples that invented and discovered it. Over time, seeing certain body parts became rarer, and thus a mysticism developed.
Ever heard of the jokes about Middle Eastern men having ankle fetishes? That.
Rateria, Condealism
Nudism isn't the answer, though, for I have a corollary:
Articles of clothing - and by extension exposed body parts - are displayed on a contextual basis, and the most popular context for nudity is sex. The sexualization of certain parts of human anatomy will cease when the societal glorification of sex does.
I suppose the question is how - or whether - such a thing could be possible.
Miencraft, Rateria, Teuberland
Can we stop saying SCOTUS? It really irks me.
Greater Columbion
Why SCOTUS? Is SCOTUS there SCOTUS an SCOTUS issue SCOTUS with SCOTUS the SCOTUS word SCOTUS SCOTUS?
I kid. Why does it irk you President Roads?
Miencraft, Rateria, Greater Columbion, Teuberland
How else do you want us to pronounce The Supreme Court of the United States of America? TSCotUSoA?
Rateria, Greater Columbion, Teuberland
How about the U.S. Supreme Court lol.
Kings Island, Rateria, Greater Columbion
Yeah. But even in times without the loud glorification of it, it existed in the dark. Benjamin Franklin wrote an entire letter about why older women are superior lovers (it in fact helped to repeal the Comstock Act). To end this sexualization, one would have to successfully indicate a majority of individuals to maintain this attitude, and like abstinence programs, there is question whether that can succeed.
The reason why nudism would work is because it uses the same strategy sexualization used to become popular. Condition an individual to care less whether another is clothed or not in a reasonable setting (if they're naked in the winter you should be worried for them), and they won't think anything of mainline fetishes.
I'm not saying nudism is overall practical. If it was legal I wouldn't be naked much in public areas, because the body would be exposed to certain dirty elements, meaning I'd have to carry a towel everywhere. Some people are cool with that, but I don't know about myself. However, if I would be on my own lawn, or sitting on my own couch, I wouldn't be worried.
And then there is the question whether public nudity legalization would threaten nude individuals and whether it could be a channel for pervs to get away with perviness in public. Those two are ponderous issues, but in the case of nudist communities aroused individuals are asked to cover themselves up.
Besides, this conditioning seems to work among Bushmen. I don't know how their sexuality works but they're chill about nudity--most of them walk around near naked and children are often naked.
How about POTUS?
Is the state visit thing tonight? Or... Today, I guess?
I always forget how the time difference works exactly.
You know how some people don't like the word moist? I don't like SCOTUS, Tummy or Prego (when referring to a pregnant woman).
This☝☝👌
Not horrible, but you sound more intelligent just saying president.
Around 5PM EST (New York Time).
That is the same time the trial starts as well.
That's 6am for me, so I will likely be unable to attend. Hope that is okay.
I can do that voice in real life, along with many others.
*snaps picture* Neat!
Rateria
Just to let everyone know about the game plan:
Around 4-5 the Humpheria v. Libertatem trial will begin behind closed doors.
Around 4-5 I will be moving this nation to the Commonwealth and a puppet here for the Commonwealth State Visit. During this time for safety the region will be locked down. It will last until Wednesday.
Greater Columbion
Thank you. I can list them if you want.
Can't do any voices, but I can do an unconvincing southern accent (despite the fact that I've lived 95% of my life in the Deep-South...).
Ok then. Sad yet funny in a weird way.
Teuberland
I can speak Arabic well, so that makes up for it.
Rateria
That's great!
For public knowledge, the court room has been opened and we are waiting for all parties to be present to begin. We are currently waiting on:
Interim Justice Pevvania
Non-speaking member of the respondent (Presumably TNUS).
Post self-deleted by Humpheria.
Alright, we're on.
And I'm still in charge here.
See how I did that?
Who are you?
Your worst nightmare.
The New United States, Rateria
Oh hey, I know you. You're that guy from CFN. What are you doing here?
Miencraft, The New United States, Muh Roads, Rateria, Condealism Envoy Unit One, Humpheria In The Commonwealth, Lain Iwakura
I'm Batman
What? This is CFN, get out.
=P
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