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Region: Libertatem
yes i sent a TG to the delegate
I'm pretty much the de facto Manager of Military Affairs (though the founder might have me beat) considering the strides I've recently taken against communist regions.
O well whatever i wont mind. Im just a newcomer =)
I'm new to. I left with Dom. The UNA was ridiculously corrupt.
Anyway, you two had best leave all of the petty power struggles and stuff in the UNA (or wherever it is you are from), because we don't run that kind of ship here. Enjoy your stay, though.
Thanks Idealism!
Welcome, both of you!
Also, for those of you who are new, I wish to have your support for the position of WA delegate. I have been the WA delegate for 180 days and been with this region since it was Liberosia's infant. We, along with other great nations, nurtured it to be the giant it is today. My heart is devoted to Libertatem. My whole being is devoted to this job.
You are, of course, the indisputable Delegate, Snabagag. As long as you and Liberosia are active this region has nothing to fear.
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Yes?
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I'll try to shake this off but I don't know why. Something kept telling me not to be an ally of Libertatem. I just don't know.
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You aren't held here prisoner, and, frankly, I'm somewhat confused by your intentions of above messages.
Something kept telling me to destroy Libertatem. I just......I don't know why!
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Generally I'd ask you to stay, but if that is really how you feel.....*shrugs*
My new motto is In vita, rex et regis pessimus omnis est. and I'm quite proud to have been able of putting that together myself without a dictionary. I have only studied latin since fall. Venio, video, vinco linguam Latinam!
Nice job! I shall be the first to ask - what does it mean? :)
Hello =)
Welcome1
It means, "In life, kings and queens are always the worst."
It doesn't sound like much in english, but is so beautiful in Latin.
I have to change rex et regis to plural, though.
Everything sounds beautiful in Latin, it's a beautiful, old language.
Oh, I couldn't agree more with you, Miencraft.
Isn't it funny how a language like Latin almost has tangible power? Especially when spoken. It's a source of interest to me. Words, I think we can all agree, have power, but when spoken through a language like Latin they take on an almost magical quality... Curiouser and curiouser... :)
Einseiv, that's called demon possession or Progressivism as its more popularly known today. When you want to destroy something good, honest and pure for no apparent reason, then control everything about it, it's Progressivism. When all you think about is how much better you could manage other people's lives for them, and how they are so foolish for not letting you, and thanking you; it's Progressivism. When the fire thought that leaps into your head upon hearing a societal or social issue is "The Government should handle that..." or you are surprised when the Government is t already handling said issue. At the risk of a personal attack, if you want to destroy Libertatem, Liberterianism, or an individual's Right to self Govern. Talk to God, He made us this way, and we'll die before we let you take that away.
Insightful, Telz. I'd like to start a new discussion. Is capitalism better with religion or can the economic system of capitalism function purely without? In other words, what happens to the poor under capitalism if there is no charity?
I get the strangest feeling that that implies that religion is required for charity, but I might be overthinking.
Not saying that. However, charity is, usually, altruism (irrational by Miss Rand's standards). Religion calls for altruism, and capitalism does not...
Telz, again, I couldn't agree more. Latin does have that distinctive trait to it.
Regarding the discussion about capitalism and religion, I have my ten cents as always.
Religion encourages altruism and is based on it and really is the foundation of altruism. No sane and clear-thinking man would sacrifice himself except under the spell of a divine entity. But then again, what Liberosia is referring to isn't really altruism, because altruism is a much more serious thing than charity. Charity is objectivist, since the giver does it for his own pleasure or by his own wishes, making it objectivist.
Religion also tends to encourage morality and ethics to a certain degree, the degree which, if exceeded, makes the believer go against the rules of the religion. Regardless of that, religion is not the foundation for morality or ethics. Morality and ethics is something which is firmly rooted in society and therefore we learn it. I believe that we as human beings have a basic sense of morality by genetics.
Capitalism as we know it is of no problem to the poor, as people tend to make capitalism the slave of the welfare system. If we are speaking on the natural terms of capitalism which are: free society, highly limited government and an autonomous economy, then the question of who takes care of the poor under capitalism is fair.
The answer is simple. In a free society which is ethical and moral and not distorted and tarnished by, for example, taxation, the poor get taken care of. I'll take an example. Iceland had one government official in its whole commonwealth period (330 years) and welfare was voluntary. Ethically, welfare was a requirement. 25-30 farmers formed each district in the counties, and they shared the duty of taking care of the poor and unable. I stress, this was voluntary.
Welfare is perfectly fine, even to be encouraged, as long as it is not exploited by either the person giving it or receiving. On those grounds, no government should ever touch it.
Exactly. Individual and voluntary welfare is oh so strikingly different from forced government "welfare".
If any one wants to come or send puppets to my region the Imperial Democratic States, feel free to come.
Snabagag, perhaps...but I disagree wholeheartedly with your Randian perspective. I have my reasons, of course, but I do not intend to display them on the RMB.
Happy Easter to all those who call themselves Christians!
Happy April Fools!
My population went from 568 million to 504 million in an hour!
Hello! Being a capitalist, I found it advantageous to move my nation into a region of sensible individuals. I couldn't help but notice the above conversation; Capitalism, as an economic system, functions most efficiently under ethical circumstances. The reason being that it is beneficial for business owners to be viewed in a positive rather than negative public light. The American industrialists were incredibly successful, ruthless, but also incredibly charitable. Why? It gained them public favor, and often contributed to their own nationalist and business objectives (as was the case of JP Morgan's reverse bailout of the U.S.). Rockefeller's Standard Oil was eventually broken up by anti-trust laws due to it's unethical treatment of factory workers and price setting. Henry Ford came along in the early twentieth century, applied the same business strategies as the early industrialists had, but focused more on the well-being of his workers and bringing a product that the average American can benefit from. This increased moral treatment of employees and shift from one consumer base to another is what led to Ford's rise as one of the nation's greatest -and least despised- entrepreneurs. Religion isn't absolutely necessary for charity to succeed; charity and ethical treatment may be seen as a business strategy as much as a religious practice, however, it does depend on the business and their motives.
Happy April Fools!
I would also like to know, have any of you noticed an increase in Marxist teachings in schools? From my own educational experience, I have undoubtedly noticed the proliferation of Marxist propaganda into the minds of younger generations. Children, especially young children, are more easily indoctrinated than their adult counterparts. I would just like to get some other input on this. Thanks!
Yeah, i get the same thing to in my school.
This is a lovely joke Barry had planned out this year.
Wish I could have logged on earlier to better combat the apocalypse.
I sure hope we get our populations restored after today. I really don't want to have to rebuild from >1mil.
We get our previous populations restored. No worries.
Only 100 or so minutes to go...
fricin zombies... they just ruin everything.
I have refounded
I have temporarily made [nation=short]The Grand Macallan[/nation] the region's serving Attorney General. This is due to the fact that Liberosia is very busy and therefore I am the acting superior authority in the region, and I considered it wrong to have the superior authority while also having to examine authority.
A wise decision.
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I would like to indicate that the simple existence of an Attorney General means little in the implication of over-site. I site the current US Attorney General as my source for exemplary corruption in the line of duty. :) Not to say that Macallan is corrupt, but I couldn't resist a barb at AG Douchenozzle.
Agree with you re: Eric Holder. Another nice feature of our constitution is the existence of a people's attorney, who has the power to initiate the process of judicial review. Hats off to Liberosia on effectively delegating power and presiding over the transition to a structure like the one we have (which is a good structure). A lot of founders do not do that. We have a strong region for very good reason.
I have proudly returned!
Welcome back, Einsiev.
I would like to resume my position as Manager of Military Affairs if I may.
You're the only one here with experience and the slot is open. I'm sure Snabagag or Liberosia would be happy to accommodate you.
This is the best region in all of NS. No doubt.
I couldn't agree more.
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PAH! Best region in all of NS???? You guys are ran by some tyrant. I personally like places like ACA, Federation of Free States, Conservative Christians NS, Laissez Faireholm, and stuff like that.
Oh really?!
You guys have to wake up from your sleep! Your founder doesn't care of the wishes of you! He only cares about self benefit. And your founder will most likely banject me for saying this, which proves just how desperet he is not to be figured out. You have to WAKE UP! No matter what you do, there will always be tyranny, because of your founder. Just look at the constitution. Your founder can do whatever he wants. WAKE UP I TELL YOU.
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Move to the above listed regions. GO! GO!
You wake up and go back to your commie home. Ok,good GO!
Precisely.
No, I am a libertarian, just like yourself. I am warning of how UN-libertarian your founder is. Go to the above listed libertarian/conservative reigons instead! I hate communism, and I hate tyranny.
What does libertariatan mean? Is it a kind of imbecile librarian? One is compelled to wonder.
You have to wake up! Let freedom ring!
It is a country ;)
How do I apply for citizenship?
No leave now Communist. We mean business. Nobody speaks out against us.
You know it. We all know it. Your founder is a tyrant. I am telling you. You have to flee. Go to a true libertarian region. Please, for the sake of Nationstates.
Nobody speaks out against you? No one is alowed to? You are sounding a lot like a communist. I want you to flee to te list of conservative regions I gave you. Not to any communist region.
Why don't you follow your own advice then and "flee"? I'm confused.
I am trying to warn others of the tyranny of your founder. Because I am not selfish. I am trying to spread the message of liberty.
Sure. But if we don't particularly want to hear it, you can't force it on us.
You don't want to hear it because the truth hurts you. As a wise man once said: Truth is treason in the empire of lies.
"Libertariatan", you are a hoax. You are a demagogue. But, continue, by all means. We have freedom of speech here.
I am not a hoax. I am trying to warn you.
Suck up.
How do I apply for citizenship?
Warn us of what? An impending apocalypse? You've used a lot of fancy words but you have nothing to them but fanciness.
First you say that you were going to leave. Now you want to join us? Just get OUT.
It goes to show how big of a hoax you are that you demand we leave, and then continue to "apply for citizenship". There is no such thing in Libertatem as applying for citizenship. This is a free region.
In other regions like the GGR, you can apply. So why don't you go back to wherever you came from if you don't like this region. I could care less.
OK, I would like to join the Libertatem Libertarian Party please.
I like this region. And it is actually "I couldn't care less."
I just don't like your founder.
In the future, we should simply not respond to posts that are baseless or have no merit, like those from this new guy libertariantarded or whatever it is. Just a thought.
You know what, I don't care and Liberosia, I suggest you banject him.
They aren't exactly baseless, Your founder does do whatever he wants.
Exactly....Desperate.
I want to become a well functioning citizen.
Because he is the F O U N D E R
Good idea, Macallan. I'm tempted to banject him but I think it's more effective to ignore him. So, ignoral in effect.
A desperate idiot trying to suck up to us now.
I know of many SUCCESFUL regions with founders that don't do whatever they want. And this is especially abnormal with a founder who claims to be libertarian.
IGNORAL IN EFFECT
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