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Pet's Stormtroopers would be a great military name.

The Amarican Empire wrote:He isn't on atm.

I think he's trying to say "hello" in German or Dutch.

@Tsar: Also, if human nature doesn't exist, explain why humans would immediately remove their hand off of a hot stove if they put it on accidentally, without any conscious thought to it?

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We fall in love without thinking about it. It's not like we just say I am going to fall in love with tsar and it immediately comes true. We can't control the nature of how we fall in love.

The Amarican Empire wrote:We fall in love without thinking about it. It's not like we just say I am going to fall in love with tsar and it immediately comes true. We can't control the nature of how we fall in love.

There for love is apart of common human nature.

Zeouria wrote:We, naturally, avoid harm.

Congratulations on contradicting your argument that human nature doesn't exist.

Miencraft wrote:Congratulations on contradicting your argument that human nature doesn't exist.

Hahahahahahahaha

Humpheria wrote:Hahahahahahahaha

I DO SO HEARTILY LAUGH, GOOD SIR.

ALSO HUMPY CHANGE THE WFE INAUGURATION DAY WAS LIKE FOREVER AGO

Don't tell hump what to do.

Miencraft wrote:ALSO HUMPY I SUGGEST THAT YOU CHANGE THE WFE INAUGURATION DAY WAS LIKE FOREVER AGO

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Miencraft wrote:ALSO HUMPY CHANGE THE WFE INAUGURATION DAY WAS LIKE FOREVER AGO

GET OFF MY BACK! I GOT IMPORTANT GOAT THINGS TO DO!

The Amarican Empire wrote:Don't tell hump what to do.

Naw, man, you don't tell me what not to do, man. It's, like, my job to tell Humpy what to do.

Zeouria wrote:Again, and again, I guess I must state, having a set nature, then being able to control ourselves through choices -- completly defeats a set nature. Because a set nature states how we will act always in a certain circumstance. Again, it's all a matter of consciousness.

This implies that having natural tendencies automatically makes every instance of a species act the same because they share the same basic urges.

Human nature is literally just our instinct, as is any other nature.

We, like any other animal, have built into our genetic coding the desire to eat, reproduce, and not die.

That is human nature. Every primal reaction that results from those three desires is human nature.

How people go about fulfilling those basic desires will differ, of course, but that doesn't mean that every person does not, somewhere deep inside, have these same urges.

Zeouria wrote:Wow... that isn't human nature! A 'nature' would declare how we act in all circumstances. It's apart of phycology. For example, like I said before, can we declare how the man will act if you shove him? No. Our life is dependent on our choices, not a set nature which dictates how we act. That's stupid and foolish. I don't see his you guys can contradict yourselves by realizing a simple fact (that we control our selves), then state there's a human nature. Then, when I say people naturally tend to avoid harm, you yell "contradiction!" Even though, right afterwards I stated everything that would contradict that statement. *applauds*

Again, and again, I guess I must state, having a set nature, then being able to control ourselves through choices -- completly defeats a set nature. Because a set nature states how we will act always in a certain circumstance. Again, it's all a matter of consciousness.

No! We don't fall in love without thinking about it. We love someone for certain reasons, all f which depend from person to person! You used the example of falling in love with me. You would have reasons for falling in love, one does not blindly fall in love for no reason.

Actually, people do blindly fall in love. Love at first sight is real

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Finally, my factbook is done. Adding political parties soon.

Zeouria wrote:Prodhoun goes into detail on social contracts. Instead of them being, well, not there, and you must obey the state by birth; Proudhon said social contracts in an anarchist society should show a persons promise not to coerce others or disobey the law of the community. And they should, of course, be voluntary (like I said).

I concede that i am ignorant of the writings and of production and have only a rudimentary understanding of his works and ideas. That being said, what i am presented with here is a perversion of the term social contract. What Rousseau, among others of his era, used the term to describe was for the justification for governing the masses. One does not consent THE social contract as its terms are subjected on to you from birth. What you are presenting would amount to an actual contractual agreement, and perhaps even that of a social context, but it is not a social contract in the established sense. The scenario is reminiscent of TTA throwing a bunch of words together and calling it "subjectivsm" with out recognizing that it is already a thing.

It's ok Mien. You're right. You keep me on my feet.

Humpheria wrote:It's ok Mien. You're right. You keep me on my feet.

*puts Humpy on hands instead of feet*

Heh.

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Lack There Of wrote:I concede that i am ignorant of the writings and of production and have only a rudimentary understanding of his works and ideas. That being said, what i am presented with here is a perversion of the term social contract. What Rousseau, among others of his era, used the term to describe was for the justification for governing the masses. One does not consent THE social contract as its terms are subjected on to you from birth. What you are presenting would amount to an actual contractual agreement, and perhaps even that of a social context, but it is not a social contract in the established sense. The scenario is reminiscent of TTA throwing a bunch of words together and calling it "subjectivsm" with out recognizing that it is already a thing.

I was on fact preaching what is known as Rejectivism thus my nations name. Subjectivism is the opposite if Objectivism. Nothing except thoughts exist.

The Time Alliance wrote:I was on fact preaching what is known as Rejectivism thus my nations name. Subjectivism is the opposite if Objectivism. Nothing except thoughts exist.

you are rejectivism

I said "rejectivism" as a joke and that turns out it was also a thing...but one very similar to what TTA described.

Anyway, Reagan Riders. Reagan's Riders? Libertatem Loves Reagan Riders - LLRR. Or Up Down Up Down Left Reagan Libertatem Riders B A Start.

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Zeouria wrote:Human nature states how we, again, act in under circumstances. If we are greedy or selfless. Violent or loving. Now, we control ourselves, again. There for, our actions cannot be dictated by a 'nature'.

Human nature defines how we are likely to act under certain circumstances.

We know how humans are going to be inclined to act in certain scenarios, the actions there being governed by a primal nature.

It takes a lot of effort to not do what our brain is literally coded to tell us to do at that instant.

See, the flaw with your argument is that you assume that a nature is "under this circumstance, the body will react like this every single time." That's false. A nature is how the body is inclined to act under a given circumstance as a result of centuries of learning and evolution.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:I said "rejectivism" as a joke and that turns out it was also a thing...but one very similar to what TTA described.

Anyway, Reagan Riders. Reagan's Riders? Libertatem Loves Reagan Riders - LLRR. Or Up Down Up Down Left Reagan Libertatem Riders B A Start.

That's what was hilarious about it. You made it up and it happened to be right.

Lack There Of wrote:you are rejectivism

Hahaha

Anyways. To get in on the conversation. Is this the same one me and Z had last night when I said me liking horses was evil?

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Actually, people do blindly fall in love. Love at first sight is real

Causeless Love is not love but an abstraction of pity.

Zeouria wrote:Indeed. You are presented with a pervertion of the term social contract (in its traditional senses). Law, though, (in an anarchist society) would rely on these pervertions of social contracts.

I fail to see why there need to the word "social" inserted into such a document. If i were going to start a commune I would just have a contractual agreement for new entrees to sign, no need for the dramatic wordplay. There really isnt anything special about it

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Lack There Of wrote:I fail to see why there need to the word "social" inserted into such a document. If i were going to start a commune I would just have a contractual agreement for new entrees to sign, no need for the dramatic wordplay. There really isnt anything special about it

I really love you.

Go build a Presidential Office factbook, Humpy.

:P

Miencraft wrote:Go build a Presidential Office factbook, Humpy.

:P

But I wanna play Hot Wheels!

Humpheria wrote:I really love you.

...Humph and Lack is the only legitimate Humph relationship.

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Humpheria wrote:I really love you.

http://searchingforsuperwomen.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/WW-Goddamn-Right.gif

Zeouria wrote:What happened to humphy after dark?

Humpy After Dark died a silent death alongside the joke bill.

Zeouria wrote:What happened to humphy after dark?

Oh, you know, I just became President.

Hey. You can have Time after dark then.

The Time Alliance wrote:Hey. You can have Time after dark then.

Oh, god...

Miencraft wrote:Oh, god...

You'll like what you get.

The Time Alliance wrote:Hey. You can have Time after dark then.

That guy freaks me out. Is he a homosexuality?

Alak-Kazanistahn wrote:a homosexuality?

This just in: it's possible to be an idea.

Iz he no may be homosexualitied in le past?

Miencraft wrote:This just in: it's possible to be an idea.

I am the night, I am Justice, I am the batman

Alak-Kazanistahn wrote:That guy freaks me out. Is he a homosexuality?

Nope just a weirdo trying to re-create a sexy phenomenon, which he will not succeed.

Lack There Of wrote:I am the night, I am Justice, I am the batman

Photographic evidence

https://fbcdn-photos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-0/1526906_825827797442110_3481521044360782214_n.jpg

Lack There Of wrote:I am the night, I am Justice, I am the batman

No, I am. One might consider me a rich idiot with no day job...but I beat up other people with mental problems at night while dressed as an anthropomorphic bat and put them in a cardboard prison for some unjustifiable reason.

Alak-Kazanistahn wrote:Iz he no may be homosexualitied in le past?

I'm Hetero...who liked two guys.

I like horses and a certain cartoon pony.

The Time Alliance wrote:I'm Hetero...who liked two guys.

I like horses and a certain cartoon pony.

Lack There Of wrote:you are rejectivism

The Time Alliance wrote:I'm Hetero...who liked two guys.

I like horses and a certain cartoon pony.

I won't ask who you liked. It was probably... *looks around* Mr. Humpster the Hamster.

Alak-Kazanistahn wrote:I won't ask who you liked. It was probably... *looks around* Mr. Humpster the Hamster.

No.

Blaph and a guy named New Babylonia....and I hate a 4 day stint with Einsiev.

The Time Alliance wrote:No.

Blaph and a guy named New Babylonia....and I hate a 4 day stint with Einsiev.

*Had a...not hate

Alak-Kazanistahn wrote:Stint?

Relationship.

It turns out while I liked em he was tricking me and leading me on...

Other then those three I'm completely heterosexual.

I heard my name over the Intercom.

why is led zeppelin so good

Einsiev wrote:I heard my name over the Intercom.

The Time Alliance wrote:Relationship.

It turns out while I liked em he was tricking me and leading me on...

Lack There Of wrote:why is led zeppelin so good

Ikr?

The Time Alliance wrote:

I tricked yo ass haha!!!

Einsiev wrote:Ikr?I tricked yo ass haha!!!

It's not funny. I liked you...

The Time Alliance wrote:It's not funny. I liked you...

End of conversation. It's clogging the RMB.

you people dont even live here, go live vicariously through the internet somewhere else

Lack There Of wrote:you people dont even live here, go live vicariously through the internet somewhere else
I live everywhere.

I am the light and the life.

Einsiev wrote:End of conversation. It's clogging the RMB.

Yes Ein.

Honestly, would you two just stop?

Humpheria wrote:Honestly, would you two just stop?

Yes Humph.

The Time Alliance wrote:Other then those three I'm completely heterosexual.

That's like as many women I've liked ever. I'm not seeing the whole "heterosexual" thing for you.

Liberosia wrote:That's like as many women I've liked ever. I'm not seeing the whole "heterosexual" thing for you.

I am not attracted to any other guys besides those three.

I have asked out at least 6 girls been attracted to plenty more and might have a chance to go with a Senior to prom if I play my cards right (I'm Sophomore)

Liberosia wrote:That's like as many women I've liked ever. I'm not seeing the whole "heterosexual" thing for you.

You're from a different time old man, things are changing. Its all about free love and mediocrity are what's hip and happening. You need to get up with the times and accept rejectivism as our salvation

"Isis is a JV team"- Barrack HUSSEIN Obama. As our Americans continue to die, our president does nothing.

Lack There Of wrote:You're from a different time old man, things are changing. Its all about free love and mediocrity are what's hip and happening. You need to get up with the times and accept rejectivism as our salvation

Read about it. Compared to Objectivism and Subjectivism it makes sense.

The Time Alliance wrote:I am not attracted to any other guys besides those three.

I have asked out at least 6 girls been attracted to plenty more and might have a chance to go with a Senior to prom if I play my cards right (I'm Sophomore)

1. You have never met any of those three guys, just saying.

2. Great, here's a prize.

Now can we please stop talking about your adolescent virtual love life?

Right-Winged Nation wrote:"Isis is a JV team"- Barrack HUSSEIN Obama. As our Americans continue to die, our president does nothing.

We're talking about to journalists who knew well and good what they were getting themselves into. of all the thing to be upset about regarding the obama administration, getting involved in another unwinnable war unrelated to the national security of the US is rated least high on that list

Right-Winged Nation wrote:"Isis is a JV team"- Barrack HUSSEIN Obama. As our Americans continue to die, our president does nothing.

I hate the guy, but I also hate when people use his middle name to denote that he is unfit for leadership or a terrorist himself. I hate his actions, not his name.

Humpheria wrote:1. You have never met any of those three guys, just saying.

2. Great, here's a prize.

Now can we please stop talking about your adolescent virtual love life?

Its the future hump

Lack There Of wrote:We're talking about to journalists who knew well and good what they were getting themselves into. of all the thing to be upset about regarding the obama administration, getting involved in another unwinnable war unrelated to the national security of the US is rated least high on that list

Really? This one is directly related to US national security. Half of the army, that is what it is at this point, have US passports.

Humpheria wrote:1. You have never met any of those three guys, just saying.

2. Great, here's a prize.

Now can we please stop talking about your adolescent virtual love life?

Hell lib asked.

Now since I'm not talking to you GET OUT OF MY DANG CONVERSATIONS YOU DOUCHE.

GOSH IT IS LEGITIMATELY COMPLETELY ANNOYING WHEN I RESPOND TO SOMEONE AND YOU INSERT YOUR DANG TWO CENTS. JUST STOP!

Lack There Of wrote:We're talking about to journalists who knew well and good what they were getting themselves into. of all the thing to be upset about regarding the obama administration, getting involved in another unwinnable war unrelated to the national security of the US is rated least high on that list

It does not matter, they are sending videos to Obama saying to leave us alone and committing murder while they do it. I am sorry, but bombs need to be dropped.

Humpheria wrote:Really? This one is directly related to US national security. Half of the army, that is what it is at this point, have US passports.

are you telling me ive been getting groped at the airport for all these years in vain? That the terrorist watch list my friend from high school somehow managed to get on dosent even protect us from illiterate cave dwellers trying to get on a plane? Furthermore, if they wanted to get in the US so bad they could come through either board, the passport isnt exactly a scary thought

Humpheria wrote:I hate the guy, but I also hate when people use his middle name to denote that he is unfit for leadership or a terrorist himself. I hate his actions, not his name.

I am not saying his unfit to run or a terrorist, I using his middle name to insuitate that he is a muslim sympathizer and he will not take action against them anytime soon.

The Time Alliance wrote:Hell lib asked.

Now since I'm not talking to you GET OUT OF MY DANG CONVERSATIONS YOU DOUCHE.

GOSH IT IS LEGITIMATELY COMPLETELY ANNOYING WHEN I RESPOND TO SOMEONE AND YOU INSERT YOUR DANG TWO CENTS. JUST STOP!

Watch yoself...must we show you the DOOR: http://www.nationstates.net/nation=pevvania/detail=factbook/id=287093

JK.....

Ankha wrote:Watch yoself...must we show you the DOOR: http://www.nationstates.net/nation=pevvania/detail=factbook/id=287093

JK.....

Read the dang law.

The Time Alliance wrote:Read the dang law.

Oh ya....you were former citizen.....

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I think NATO is one of the most corrupt things ever...so...

The Amarican Empire wrote:Let's just wait for isis to attack europe. Then we can use article 5 of our NATO treaty to annihilate isis. Unless you guys just want us to go in. But I think that going with the NATO treaty is more respectable. Isis is a self declared nation after all.

Action needs to be taken now.

Forget ISIS. Let them have the Middle East. Bring the troopshome and asecure the America's.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:It does not matter, they are sending videos to Obama saying to leave us alone and committing murder while they do it. I am sorry, but bombs need to be dropped.

If you have an opinion you're sorry about then you should probably change it. Are we going to talk about the atrocities being committed in Africa by jihadists, who are much more well organized than ISIS. Or perhaps the Mexican nationals who have killed numerous Americans civilian and other wise and have been brazen enough to make public displays of threats and operate within our own boarders. Where are the bombs for these much more credible threats

The Time Alliance wrote:Forget ISIS. Let them have the Middle East. Bring the troopshome and asecure the America's.

Send the troops to Israel.

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Let's just obliterate the planet.

Problems solved.

Alak-Kazanistahn wrote:Send the troops to Israel.

Send the troops to an early retirement and help find gainful employment

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Action needs to be taken now.

Yep. We need to go now. Theyre killing Americans for no reason.

The Time Alliance wrote:Forget ISIS. Let them have the Middle East. Bring the troopshome and asecure the America's.

Yep. We need to go now. Theyre killing Americans for no reason.

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