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Ipian wrote:Yes it is.

No it's not.

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=pevvania/detail=factbook/id=176348

Ipian wrote:Yes it is.

No it isn't the CP is but not the ACP

(I want to see a CP vs. ACP race)

Miencraft wrote:No it's not.

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=pevvania/detail=factbook/id=176348

I thought you meant on the CFN list. sorry.

You mean the ACLP?

Hey why coes the hump calendar put me on Friday, I want monday

Humpheria wrote:You mean the ACLP?

Yeah, whatever party GID is in.

I mean, I'm used to the ACP being the Ancaps, but apparently they don't exist anymore.

Ugh.

Confuse.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Hey why coes the hump calendar put me on Friday, I want monday

I took exactly whatever Humpy said when he laid out the calendar of Humpy Sex. You were on Friday there, so I copied it over to Friday.

But I only get CIs sloppy seconds........

....My GOD you guys are strange. (Says the guy who wants to do it with a pony and has done it once before with on in a dream)

Humpheria wrote:He apparently left because he was being oppressed by people trying to have a conversation with him. According to his activity, he's been here for 29 days.

That really is a shame. He didn't know what he was talking about, but he had the potential to become a leading opposition candidate and spice up this region's political affairs.

The Amarican Empire wrote:But I only get CIs sloppy seconds........

Look at it this way:

Don't think about it.

Albenia wrote:(Says the guy who wants to do it with a pony and has done it once before with on in a dream)

I. Uh. Do I want to know?

Albenia wrote:....My GOD you guys are strange. (Says the guy who wants to do it with a pony and has done it once before with on in a dream)

Don't hate cause you can't get it

Pevvania wrote:That really is a shame. He didn't know what he was talking about, but he had the potential to become a leading opposition candidate and spice up this region's political affairs.

Ah, good riddance. We need intelligent opposition. Not whatever that guy was.

Pevvania wrote:That really is a shame. He didn't know what he was talking about, but he had the potential to become a leading opposition candidate and spice up this region's political affairs.

A leading Opposition? Pev this is an Insult to real Opposition leaders and people who have led a real Opposition (ME)!

Miencraft wrote:I. Uh. Do I want to know?

Do you?

Humpheria wrote:Don't hate cause you can't get it

Well that's why the one person I love is a Pony.....

Post self-deleted by The Amarican Empire.

Albenia wrote:(Says the guy who wants to do it with a pony and has done it once before with on in a dream)

I don't think that is even legal.

The Neo-Confederate States Of America wrote:I don't think that is even legal.

...What's worse is it's a cartoon pony...

No it's not legal...

Albenia wrote:...What's worse is it's a cartoon pony...

No it's not legal...

Or possible for that matter. You can do a real horse/Pony though.

It's illegal, but the chances you get caught are less than 1%

The Amarican Empire wrote:Pony is my codenam

I feel like it isn't

Humpheria wrote:I feel like it isn't

It isn't....

Sorry tta I forgot we had to keep it a secret.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Sorry tta I forgot we had to keep it a secret.

Shh...It's okay.

Also, TTA was not banned for his disrespect for Libertatem, her laws and her citizens. He was banned because of treasonous actions abroad and repeated attempts to sabotage our military. His bizarre resignation and rant against the region merely convinced the Board to put charging him back on the table.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:The Second REAGAN Treaty has been written, and awaits the ratification of this region's legislature.

Lack There Of wrote:Question to the canidates, how would you vote on the new REGAN treaty as now proposed if it came to a vote at the board?

I think that I would support the new treaty, though I think there should be a clause the forces signatories to pledge a certain amount of military to the collective REATO forces, even for smaller signatories so that way we know everyone is committed to the cause.

Terentuem wrote:All that I can say is that I am disappointed in Hallo. I will abstain in the race for the Board because there are too many minority candidates. Also, by the by, I wuold support anyone that would promise to vote to destroy the FRAUD Act.

Terentuem wrote:I disagree. I see it as an imposition on the rights of the nations here.

It's not imposing on anyone's rights. The purpose is to protect against voting FRAUD so people can't create or move puppets around to vote for candidates. It's also a test of dedication to newcomers to show they are committed to Libertatem. Are you committed? If so, then you should stop whining about the bill.

Terentuem wrote:You. They made Hallo give up. And they are attacking my intelligence.

Hey Terentuem, do you run the Hallo Fan Club or something? Or are you just in love with him? You have a strange obsession with one man.

Pevvania wrote:Also, TTA was not banned for his disrespect for Libertatem, her laws and her citizens. He was banned because of treasonous actions abroad and repeated attempts to sabotage our military. His bizarre resignation and rant against the region merely convinced the Board to put charging him back on the table.

By official Definition of Treason. I shouldn't have been banned for it. However we will discuss this later after the Appeals court is set up and I use it.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:

Hey Terentuem, do you run the Hallo Fan Club or something? Or are you just in love with him? You have a strange obsession with one man.

HalloxTerentuem

What do you call that... The Shipping name of : Terlo

I have had enough fighting. Just stop. Fighting will accomplish NOTHING. STOP with the character attacks. That includes RRRG and Humpy and Mr. T.

Terentuem just sent me this TG: You are just as bad as Pevvania and Humpheria. Fascist pig.

Ipian wrote:I have had enough fighting. Just stop. Fighting will accomplish NOTHING. STOP with the character attacks. That includes RRRG and Humpy and Mr. T.

It's a debate *Nods*

I have gone *glances at calendar* six days without a character attack, sir.

Albenia wrote:It's a debate

Thats funny.

Ipian wrote:Terentuem just sent me this TG: You are just as bad as Pevvania and Humpheria. Fascist pig.

lol..... again.... again

Ipian wrote:Terentuem just sent me this TG: You are just as bad as Pevvania and Humpheria. Fascist pig.

HE sent it to me as well.......

For shame. "The Hero of the Proletariat" being called a Fascist pig....

Ipian wrote:I have had enough fighting. Just stop. Fighting will accomplish NOTHING. STOP with the character attacks. That includes RRRG and Humpy and Mr. T.

Everyone so loosely uses the term "character attack" now it's really weird.

None of what I just said was a character attack, I was expressing facts in the first one and an opinion which seems very plausible at this point in the second

And all I did was tell him I was patriotic to this region and would never leave and just give up everything I did to to be here right now.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:Everyone so loosely uses the term "character attack" now it's really weird.

Hey Terentuem, do you run the Hallo Fan Club or something? Or are you just in love with him? You have a strange obsession with one man.

Ipian wrote:And all I did was tell him I was patriotic to this region and would never leave and just give up everything I did to to be here right now.

All I told him were his attacks were unneeded and his attacks were just unwarranted hate and slander.

Albenia wrote:All I told him were his attacks were unneeded and his attacks were just unwarranted hate and slander.

I agree.

Ipian wrote:I agree.

Sadly he went into the region my main nation is located at.

Albenia wrote:Sadly he went into the region my main nation is located at.

lol

Albenia wrote:HE sent it to me as well.......

For shame. "The Hero of the Proletariat" being called a Fascist pig....

No I didn't. Don't lie about me. I only told Ipian.

Terentuem wrote:No I didn't. Don't lie about me. I only told Ipian.

I'm not....

Anyways...Yay...Your back here now...

I'd go back to CFN if I were you.....It's more Democratic and not as Oppressive of other ideals as this region.

Calling RLP fascists I wonder where Mr t got that from.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Calling RLP fascists I wonder where Mr t got that from.

Hallo.

I was thinking about someone by the name of tta.

Post self-deleted by Ipian.

Post self-deleted by Ipian.

I always though the RLP were secretly distributist monarchists.

God save the queen, b*ch

Here's a cool video.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=890_1367106116

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I always though the RLP were secretly distributist monarchists.

God save the queen, b*ch

I thought we were the Republic of Llamas and Potatoes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI8vjoFjmdY This is ridiculous. Just accept the law. So disrespectful.

Don't we have a potato farm?

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Don't we have a potato farm?

We do, but it's been neglected.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:I think that I would support the new treaty, though I think there should be a clause the forces signatories to pledge a certain amount of military to the collective REATO forces, even for smaller signatories so that way we know everyone is committed to the cause.

That would dissuade other regions from joining. The first order of business is to be more inclusive; perhaps after that we can decide how to get regions to pull their weight.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I always though the RLP were secretly distributist monarchists.

God save the queen, b*ch

Yes

These elections are neck-and-neck.

GID has no votes :( I feel sorry for him.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:These elections are neck-and-neck.

I meant in REATO. Don't the regions have to okay it rather than you just deciding to get rid of the old one.

It doesn't count at all but I felt Sorry for him.

Humpheria wrote:I meant in REATO. Don't the regions have to okay it rather than you just deciding to get rid of the old one.

Whether it does or not doesn't matter to me, and is irrelevant anyway, especially considering the old one hasn't exactly seen any action recently.

No, the sign of whether or not the second Treaty is supported is, well, dependent on who ratifies it. And so far, ratification is looking pretty good.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Whether it does or not doesn't matter to me, and is irrelevant anyway, especially considering the old one hasn't exactly seen any action recently.

No, the sign of whether or not the second Treaty is supported is, well, dependent on who ratifies it. And so far, ratification is looking pretty good.

But you can't find the old one on REATO and it looks like it has already been signed into law.

Humpheria wrote:But you can't find the old one on REATO and it looks like it has already been signed into law.

Sure you can; it's in REATO Custodian's Factbook.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Sure you can; it's in REATO Custodian's Factbook.

But saying things like enacted. It looks from the outside like you decided that we shouldn't follow the old one anymore and everyone has to go with the second one or leave.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:That would dissuade other regions from joining. The first order of business is to be more inclusive; perhaps after that we can decide how to get regions to pull their weight.

I think they should at least show they are willing to pledge a few nations to the collective military to start out, I think 5 is a good number. But I understand what you mean.

Humpheria wrote:But saying things like enacted. It looks from the outside like you decided that we shouldn't follow the old one anymore and everyone has to go with the second one or leave.

Good, so we're on the same page.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:I think they should at least show they are willing to pledge a few nations to the collective military to start out, I think 5 is a good number. But I understand what you mean.

But five is not a good number for the International Republican Union, for example - we don't have five nations, and as a result TIRUM (The IRU Military) will coordinate small defense missions and try to work with allies whenever possible.

For now, all the Treaty asks is that a region can pledge one representative to REATO itself. That's a start, at least.

And bingo was his name-o

For those of you who care about my personal life. My father was killed eight years ago today in Bakhar, Afghanistan. He was killed by a roadside bomb planted by Afghani terrorists. He is interred in our local cemetery. RIP Dad. Carry on.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Good, so we're on the same page.

But five is not a good number for the International Republican Union, for example - we don't have five nations, and as a result TIRUM (The IRU Military) will coordinate small defense missions and try to work with allies whenever possible.

For now, all the Treaty asks is that a region can pledge one representative to REATO itself. That's a start, at least.

eh it was just an idea, one rep is ok I guess, I think a little more pledge should be required at least

Humpheria wrote:For those of you who care about my personal life. My father was killed eight years ago today in Bakhar, Afghanistan. He was killed by a roadside bomb planted by Afghani terrorists. He is interred in our local cemetery. RIP Dad. Carry on.

That's terrible. What rank was he, just curious?

Humpheria wrote:For those of you who care about my personal life. My father was killed eight years ago today in Bakhar, Afghanistan. He was killed by a roadside bomb planted by Afghani terrorists. He is interred in our local cemetery. RIP Dad. Carry on.

I'm very sorry to hear that Humpy. RIP. I have a lot of respect for those who put their lives on the line, and it is very unfortunate when those things happen. Bless your family.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:That's terrible. What rank was he, just curious?

Corporal US Army

Humpheria wrote:For those of you who care about my personal life. My father was killed eight years ago today in Bakhar, Afghanistan. He was killed by a roadside bomb planted by Afghani terrorists. He is interred in our local cemetery. RIP Dad. Carry on.

Takhar*

Muh Roads wrote:I'm very sorry to hear that Humpy. RIP. I have a lot of respect for those who put their lives on the line, and it is very unfortunate when those things happen. Bless your family.

I respect them. Don't like them. But I respect them.

Has anyone else lost a loved one in the Armed Forces?

Humpheria wrote:Has anyone else lost a loved one in the Armed Forces?

Nope. Whilst we are on the Topic.

Obama kept 10,000 troops in Afghanistan which will cost America $20B.

Why do we have a Government. Society could fair on it's own without any government influence on anything but economy. Kill the government...maybe....I'm not sure...

Albenia wrote:Nope. Whilst we are on the Topic.

Obama kept 10,000 troops in Afghanistan which will cost America $20B.

Why do we have a Government. Society could fair on it's own without any government influence on anything but economy. Kill the government...maybe....I'm not sure...

The economy is society, at least its most important aspect. When you realize this, you'll be a libertarian.

Liberosia wrote:The economy is society, at least its most important aspect. When you realize this, you'll be a libertarian.

I already am Technically a Libertarian. A Left Libertarian.

Also Hawaii raised it's MW up to $10.10 I am rather happy about that. It works for Hawaii because of the high cost of good due to import prices. A jug of milk there costs about $8 so a High MW there is good in my opinion.

Albenia wrote:I already am Technically a Libertarian. A Left Libertarian.

Also Hawaii raised it's MW up to $10.10 I am rather happy about that. It works for Hawaii because of the high cost of good due to import prices. A jug of milk there costs about $8 so a High MW there is good in my opinion.

"left" libertarian is nearly always a contradiction in terms.

You'll still get unnecessary unemployment and/or inflation with a decrease in productivity, it will just be proportional to the price level. The only way to ensure equilibrium is a $0 MW.

Albenia wrote:I already am Technically a Libertarian. A Left Libertarian.

Also Hawaii raised it's MW up to $10.10 I am rather happy about that. It works for Hawaii because of the high cost of good due to import prices. A jug of milk there costs about $8 so a High MW there is good in my opinion.

You had a great streak going where I was agreeing with everything you said. And then this.

Liberosia put it better than I can right now.

Economic socialism and intervention by the State does not a libertarian make.

Liberosia wrote:"left" libertarian is nearly always a contradiction in terms.

You'll still get unnecessary unemployment and/or inflation with a decrease in productivity, it will just be proportional to the price level. The only way to ensure equilibrium is a $0 MW.

No see a $0 MW is completely unreasonable in most places. Which is why I support a low MW of $5-6. However in Hawaii a jug of milk is $8. The MW is $7. So your telling me that a $7 or less MW in Hawaii works? No. Not there. It might be bad....But it brings more good in this situation.

I'll support a Low MW but a No MW is traitorous and theft to the Proletariat

Look:

Except that, everything in Hawaii is imported and everything is expensive. When milk is $8 per gallon, well, I should think there's no opposition to this whatsoever.

"BUT THAT'LL RAISE THE PRICES OF GOODS!"

How does that work again? Everything in Hawaii is expensive because of import costs. Not because of worker wages. Think about it for one second. If consumption is higher, the logistics would be lower because you would have to ship more at a time. Considering the world is growing automated and eliminating unskilled labor, I really don't see any other way of driving consumption up besides nothing short of a minimum basic income. But I'm sure that would be fascist amirite.

Humpheria wrote:Corporal US Army

Nice. I've had a lot of family in the military myself.

(P)Grandpa-Stationed in UK in the 70s

(M)Great Grandpa-Fought for Italy in WWII

[P]Uncle- Airforce

(Step Mom)2 Uncles in Vietnam

(Step Dad)Grandpa(great grandpa to me) in WWII

(M) Cousin-Coast Guard and Navy

I tried to be as accurate as possible. One of the step uncles in Vietnam is one of the coolest guys I've ever met. His entire squad died and he got shot in the leg and while on the ground he killed 2 VietCong with his bare hands and 11 more with his handgun. Then he walked 11 miles back to his base. He has a silver star and a purple heart. The other uncle has a purple heart too, but I forget what for.

Humpheria wrote:I respect them. Don't like them. But I respect them.

Why don't you like them? And I respect them a lot too, but I don't like it sometimes when people say "They Died for Our Freedoms" and stuff like that because some of them really didn't, like in Vietnam, Korea, or the Middle East(sorry if that's offensive, I don't mean it like that). Like, how are those wars really related to defending a US Citizen's freedom? I just don't get it. None of those countries challenged any american freedoms, and the men that died(again, sorry) just died because some men in suits sent them to "fight communism" or find alleged WMDs, which they never did. It's sad for me to think lives were wasted on things like that.

Albenia wrote:No see a $0 MW is completely unreasonable in most places. Which is why I support a low MW of $5-6. However in Hawaii a jug of milk is $8. The MW is $7. So your telling me that a $7 or less MW in Hawaii works? No. Not there. It might be bad....But it brings more good in this situation.

I'll support a Low MW but a No MW is traitorous and theft to the Proletariat

Economics. It's a wonderful thing. Just because you have no MW doesn't mean people won't be paid roughly in proportion to their productivity. A MW will ALWAYS create a surplus of unskilled workers, unemployable at the price ceiling; this is the artificial phenomenon of unemployment. The lower the better: the only people who suffer are those at the bottom who don't have marketable skills. Don't you realize you're using government coercion to interfere in voluntary contracts and steal job opportunities from people?

Theft to the Proletariat....my God, no one is owed a goddam job. Just like no one is entitled to the property of another. That last sentence shows you affirm real theft of private property.

Albenia wrote:Look:

Except that, everything in Hawaii is imported and everything is expensive. When milk is $8 per gallon, well, I should think there's no opposition to this whatsoever.

"BUT THAT'LL RAISE THE PRICES OF GOODS!"

How does that work again? Everything in Hawaii is expensive because of import costs. Not because of worker wages. Think about it for one second. If consumption is higher, the logistics would be lower because you would have to ship more at a time. Considering the world is growing automated and eliminating unskilled labor, I really don't see any other way of driving consumption up besides nothing short of a minimum basic income. But I'm sure that would be fascist amirite.

Yes you are right. But that's an issue with your basic immorality. I REALIZE high prices there are not due to the MW, but adding one won't solve any problems, just create proportional unemployment.

Liberosia wrote:Economics. It's a wonderful thing. Just because you have no MW doesn't mean people won't be paid roughly in proportion to their productivity. A MW will ALWAYS create a surplus of unskilled workers, unemployable at the price ceiling; this is the artificial phenomenon of unemployment. The lower the better: the only people who suffer are those at the bottom who don't have marketable skills. Don't you realize you're using government coercion to interfere in voluntary contracts and steal job opportunities from people?

Theft to the Proletariat....my God, no one is owed a goddam job. Just like no one is entitled to the property of another. That last sentence shows you affirm real theft of private property.

Some people can't help not having Marketable skills. So you want these people to suffer? Because we all know the Corporations don't give a damn about the workers. Only their money. Thus is the issue with $0 MW.

I am protecting people that could be discriminated against with a $0. Don't pretend we don't discriminate in the workforce.

Liberosia wrote:Yes you are right. But that's an issue with your basic immorality. I REALIZE high prices there are not due to the MW, but adding one won't solve any problems, just create proportional unemployment.

Then how do you fix the issue so people can purchase basic products like milk?

Albenia wrote:Some people can't help not having Marketable skills. So you want these people to suffer? Because we all know the Corporations don't give a damn about the workers. Only their money. Thus is the issue with $0 MW.

I am protecting people that could be discriminated against with a $0. Don't pretend we don't discriminate in the workforce.

No, I want them to be employable so they can earn entry level wages and accumulate job experience/skills. Yes we discriminate on the basis of PRODUCTIVITY, that's what capitalism is all about. You're not protecting anyone, you're putting unskilled workers out of a job.

Corporations don't usually give a damn, yeah that's true. They pay the best price for the amount of productivity they can get out of a worker and don't really care what he or she does with the money. It's just like most people. I don't really give a damn about people I don't know.

Albenia wrote:Then how do you fix the issue so people can purchase basic products like milk?

I would eliminate regulation and other government interventions (which would definately decrease prices) and lower taxes/spending so people can live without having their income constantly stolen.

At the end of the day, the selfish Objectivist ancap here cares more about the poor than the socialist altruists. Who woulda thought?

Liberosia wrote: I don't really give a damn about people I don't know.

And there you go! This is all I can say. Honestly? I don't either until it comes to the Economy....

Liberosia wrote:No, I want them to be employable so they can earn entry level wages and accumulate job experience/skills.

But you have to think about what they would be getting paid. In Hawaii. Think of the costs in Hawaii.

Liberosia wrote: Yes we discriminate on the basis of PRODUCTIVITY, that's what capitalism is all about. You're not protecting anyone, you're putting unskilled workers out of a job.

Total crap. We discriminate due to Rascism, homophobia, and other crap....

Liberosia wrote:

Corporations don't usually give a damn, yeah that's true. They pay the best price for the amount of productivity they can get out of a worker and don't really care what he or she does with the money.

No. They care about their money. They wouldn't blink about giving someone a $1 MW if there was no MW.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:Nice. I've had a lot of family in the military myself.

(P)Grandpa-Stationed in UK in the 70s

(M)Great Grandpa-Fought for Italy in WWII

[P]Uncle- Airforce

(Step Mom)2 Uncles in Vietnam

(Step Dad)Grandpa(great grandpa to me) in WWII

(M) Cousin-Coast Guard and Navy

I tried to be as accurate as possible. One of the step uncles in Vietnam is one of the coolest guys I've ever met. His entire squad died and he got shot in the leg and while on the ground he killed 2 VietCong with his bare hands and 11 more with his handgun. Then he walked 11 miles back to his base. He has a silver star and a purple heart. The other uncle has a purple heart too, but I forget what for.

Why don't you like them? And I respect them a lot too, but I don't like it sometimes when people say "They Died for Our Freedoms" and stuff like that because some of them really didn't, like in Vietnam, Korea, or the Middle East(sorry if that's offensive, I don't mean it like that). Like, how are those wars really related to defending a US Citizen's freedom? I just don't get it. None of those countries challenged any american freedoms, and the men that died(again, sorry) just died because some men in suits sent them to "fight communism" or find alleged WMDs, which they never did. It's sad for me to think lives were wasted on things like that.

Wow... All I have is my father and my two brother's (both Airmen one in Germany, one in Colorado).

I don't like them because they are selfish. I understand the honor and sacrifice and all of that, that's why I respect them. My father loved me, but he loved you all (Americans and America) more. I lost my father when I was eleven. He wasn't at my graduation. He wasn't there for my first heartbreak. He wasn't there to teach me how to play catch. He was too busy serving his nation to be a father. And there are countless others who will say the same. At least they have their honor....

Liberosia wrote:I would eliminate regulation and other government interventions (which would definately decrease prices) and lower taxes/spending so people can live without having their income constantly stolen.

Then how does the Government make money? How do we prevent Environmental Disaster, Discrimination in the Workplace, and other stuff.

Liberosia wrote:At the end of the day, the selfish Objectivist ancap here cares more about the poor than the socialist altruists. Who woulda thought?

I'm not a Socialist. I'm a Liberal Socialist.

Albenia and Right-winged nation are not citizens. Non-citizens, please remove your votes.

Albenia wrote:And there you go! This is all I can say. Honestly? I don't either until it comes to the Economy....

But you have to think about what they would be getting paid. In Hawaii. Think of the costs in Hawaii.

Total crap. We discriminate due to Rascism, homophobia, and other crap....

No. They care about their money. They wouldn't blink about giving someone a $1 MW if there was no MW.

Whatever

They would be able to buy less. Yes. Good job. It's called a market and there's no way to change that fact in the long run. If you're going to use Hawaii, I'm going to use Cuba.

Learn some education. Discrimination is not always a negative thing, it just has negative connotations due to irrational bias we've had in 'Murica. A free market is about discriminating who is the best and brightest, and paying them accordingly.

Before you talk again, at least read some basic economics, and not by a Marxist. Any and all prices are an equilibrium. $1 wages would be extremely rare if existing at all.

Humpheria wrote:Wow... All I have is my father and my two brother's (both Airmen one in Germany, one in Colorado).

I don't like them because they are selfish. I understand the honor and sacrifice and all of that, that's why I respect them. My father loved me, but he loved you all (Americans and America) more. I lost my father when I was eleven. He wasn't at my graduation. He wasn't there for my first heartbreak. He wasn't there to teach me how to play catch. He was too busy serving his nation to be a father. And there are countless others who will say the same. At least they have their honor....

No offense intended to anyone that thinks differently, that's just my experience.

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