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Region: Libertatem
Thank you. I really appreciate being praised by the region's oldest living nation.
I wish the best of luck to the new cabinet.
I also have faith that Condealism will do a great job as my successor, because he has done the job before.
Miencraft, Narland, Condealism, Hyderbourg, The United States Of Patriots, Fairbankska
Interesting......................
Then that just means we need Supting or The Aradites to see this, and so long as Hyderbourg likes its current form and nobody has any further suggestions...
Condealism
I still have a problem with the council of three random citizens. If they are active that means that they must have already voted, meaning that the Justice knows in exactly which manner they'll vote.
There has to be another way, I'm sorry, I can't get behind the amendment in its current form solely due to that reason.
Condealism, Fairbankska
Do you have any suggestions? This is the best I can think of. The only alternative I can come up with would be having someone with a regional office cast the tiebreaking vote personally, or else have the Senate decide. Having the Senate decide is obviously not any good at all in a Senatorial election, so...
Condealism
What about this. The Chancellor of the Interior randomly numbers every citizen nation and sends the list with the numbers to The Archives nation.
Then three numbers are picked at random by the Justice and those are the voters.
The United States Of Patriots, Fairbankska
Obamacare repeal passes the house, 217-213. 20 Reps and will Dems voted against it.
I know my opinion isn't popular here but I think it's a good bill. The only major flaws for libertarians are tax credits (which are much much lower than the Obamacare subsidies, and offset the effects of government theft), alleged bailout provisions for insurance companies and coverage for pre-existing conditions and under-25s.
But in my opinion, these are far outweighed by the benefits of the bill.
-Gets rid of the employer and individual mandates
-Gets rid of the hundreds of billions in increased taxes spending
-Stops Medicaid expansion AND block-grants the program for the states, a goal of libertarians for 36 years!
-Doubles value of health savings accounts
-Stabilises the insurance market
-Allows states to opt out of the few remaining mandates
-Reduces premiums by 20% in 10 years
Libertarians, too often, allow perfect to be the enemy of the good. This bill narrowly passed the House by 4 votes because several CENTRIST Republicans opposed it. We do not live in a perfect world folks. Politics are a reality and this isn't just the best we can get, but it's great even for that. The fact that this guts so much of the ACA is why it's going to have a tough time getting through the Senate.
I bet some libertarians complaining about this bill will oppose the upcoming tax cuts because they don't get rid of the entire tax code.
Miencraft, Narland, Condealism
That's pretty much exactly the same concept. The Second Republic nation is shared between government officials, so I don't really see how sending anything to it accomplishes anything.
But yeah my idea was the Chancellor of the Interior would start numbering the register, and then the RJ would just pull three random numbers.
Condealism, The United States Of Patriots
I think that having the legislative body make the tie breaker is sufficient. It's technically the most representative of the voices of citizens in this case.
Miencraft, Humpheria, Rateria, Condealism, The United States Of Patriots
Also, the AHCA defunds Planned Parenthood (a corporate whore suckling on the taxpayer's teat) for a year. I doubt this will pass the Senate where RINOs hold the balance of power, but it's a good gesture.
Miencraft, Humpheria, The United States Of Patriots
Then I'll change it so the Senate is the deciding vote for both kinds of election.
Yeah, we were just talking about this over in Gay. My response was basically "he offends practically everybody else, this is nothing new."
[triggered]
That makes one of us - I'm not the legendary diplomat I used to be - but I'll do my best.
Yeah, my only thoughts on the issue thus far are "good enough."
More like "Not Planning to be a Parent in the Hood," am I right? Eh? Eh?
I am the Senate.
"Stop saying that, you loser"
It's teasin', then
Miencraft, Pevvania, Rateria
But if an incumbent is involved in the tie, wouldn't that kind of skew it?
Even if the incumbent had to abstain, there could be a tie between the other two senators. Or even worse, they could agree to kick him off solely because he does not vote with them or keep him solely because he does. That is not a democracy.
I'd honestly prefer the random citizens, not ideal, but better.
Miencraft, Narland, Rateria, Condealism
*slow clap*
Rateria, Condealism
Yeah, that's why I went with that instead. There really is no ideal way to resolve Senatorial election ties, unless there's some singular position we can all agree should have tiebreaking power.
Condealism
[triggering intensifies]
Rateria, Condealism
Would it be terrible to maybe have two senators share a seat in case of a tie?
Yeah kinda.
Humpheria, Rateria, Condealism
What if we took a page from OG Libertatem's book and made the hierarchy more business-like?
Ha, GAAAAAAY (apologies for the old meme fellow memelords)
Lol. I think there's some merit to the idea that PP helps lower income mothers get medical care, but by golly it's a private corporation and no private entity deserves government funding, period! This is also a company that funds Democrats. Why is that allowed? Why are we paying a company to fundraise for leftist politicians? Shouldn't that be illegal?
Yeah, 'good enough' is the perfect way to describe it. I give the bill a 7-8/10. And Papa Trump has promised this is just phase 1, with more reforms to come including further deregulation and removal of state lines.
Miencraft, Condealism
One of these days we need to have the whole team of legends come back together.
Only problem is that some people like Pev are equally legendary Presidents as they are cabinet members.
Pevvania, Condealism
Ok here's my idea, this is the best i could think of
Presidential election -> Senate tie-break -> Judiciary tie-break if incumbent is running
Senate election -> Judiciary breaks tie
Miencraft, Narland, Humpheria, Rateria, Condealism, Fairbankska
Despite the obvious presence of new blood in the system (which is far from a bad thing), we've got some known power players in the Senate and Cabinet. If only Minerva and I had the resources we once did, a State/War Department collaboration effort - for any purpose - would be nigh unstoppable.
So just give the RJ the tiebreaking vote or have him, the SG, and the AG all vote to break the tie?
Condealism
regional justice
Condealism
Good enough for me.
So, opinions on the proposal in its current form?
Hyderbourg
*checks factbook*
The words "good enough" are good enough. I don't know why we keep using them, but they're good enough words.
Miencraft, Rateria
I support it
Miencraft, Condealism
I like it a lot.
I think it fixes the problem in a proper way.
Miencraft, Condealism
Just one more senator then!
Pevvvvvvvvvvvvvv? Suuuuuuuuuuuuuupt?
Rateria, Condealism
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I'm in.
Miencraft, Rateria, Condealism
Aaaaaaaand it passes. Yay. Now Pev can do his thing.
Rateria, Condealism
I'm both pleased and slightly worried by this casual means of voting.
Miencraft, Rateria
I mean it works, doesn't it?
Rateria, Condealism
This vote does need to be written down somewhere though, you know, record keeping.
Condealism
"It just works" - Todd Howard, on Fallout 4, which doesn't just work
Miencraft, Pevvania, The United States Of Patriots
I don't think the other amendment has any record of a vote.
Condealism
"Working as intended" ~The balancing team for Elder Scrolls Online, who don't know how to do game balancing.
Rateria, Condealism, The United States Of Patriots
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Anyways I did toss a little record of the vote into the amendment when I added it to the Constitution. From now on I think it'll be good practice to list the people who voted in favor if it wasn't passed by 2/3 citizen vote.
Rateria, Condealism
The first and only thing I would like to see are the words:
The AFA is hereby revoked in full.
Then we can talk about the replacing.
The AFA is a work of fraud and larceny unparalleled since the FRA of 1913. I want to see people thrown in jail for their willful sedition, criminal misfeasance and felonious malfeasance. The monstrosity did not even start out in the House as required for Lawful legislation (the irony of having to modify legislation with lawful is not lost on me) for appropriations. To continue the AHCA without revocation/repudiation/recantation of the AFA is to perpetuate that fraud and foster acceptance of deleterious legal fiction to the harm of what representative government ought of of right need be, not to mention the affront to Rule of Law. Congress does not have chattel rights to the medical profession or the People regarding THEIR own health and livelihood.
The GOP had the perfect opportunity to show the American People how Rule of Law through parliamentarian governance of the deliberation process for legislation can be done rightly and openly. Open deliberation so they could see every step of the way how our Republic works in regards to legislation, but no--Ryan had to use the same underhanded tactics used by the purveyors of the AFA to conceal what was in the damned thing. The graft, corruption and back room dealings must be investigated by an independent grand jury and we must rid ourselves of the criminal Establishment by all lawful means necessary.
Miencraft, Pevvania, Republic Of Minerva, Rateria, Condealism
I hope I don't sound angry. I am very concerned. We are loosing what little liberty and freedom we have left before our very eyes.
Miencraft, Pevvania, Rateria, Condealism
Just because Trump is president doesn't make the term 'RINO' okay. Welcome to the Republican Party, Pev. Just remember the 11th commandment.
*waves hello in the general direction of whomever is here*
Miencraft, Narland, Rateria, Condealism, Fairbankska
The term 'RINO' ought to be replaced with some term for people/politicians whose only reasons for affiliating themselves with the Republican Party are a lust for power, an irrational hatred of poor people, or both.
Miencraft, Rateria
*waves back*
So I heard y'all wanted to do some cross-regional stuff with Sunalaya.
Now I'm not doing this in any official capacity, however, I'd certainly like to work on stuff with you guys. I have a keen interest in PMT and FT if y'all have any ideas regarding either or both.
I can't really say I support this statement because it over-generalizes a lot of Republicans who simply agree with what the party offers on the surface.
But since I've no love for either half of the establishment, I can't argue in good conscience against it either.
The point being that there's more to being a Republican than getting ahead in politics or hating on the working class - and that those who don't see this should be ridiculed.
It was just an idea I had, but provided the right opportunity comes along, I bet our regions could jointly drum up some interested RPers.
[spoiler=💩]A big poopy greeting from the LCN![/spoiler]
Rateria, Condealism
"Who writes this crap"
Greetings :)
Rateria
Well, someone from here posted on our RMB, and I'm returning the favor!
Rateria, Condealism
Oops! That was you! Sorry
Rateria, Condealism
Good to hear from you :)
Looking for a Libertarian-Republican and free market capitalist region. Have I found one at last?
Narland, Republic Of Minerva, Humpheria, Rateria, Condealism, The Aradites, The United States Of Patriots
You have indeed. Welcome.
Miencraft, Auxorii, Rateria
Awesome. Any things I need to know? Does this region have RP or debates? Political parties? Stuff like that
Narland, Rateria, Condealism
Our recently-elected President should be able to answer those first two questions for you; the new administration is settling in at the moment.
As for political parties, we quit using them over the course of the past few months only for the most popular party to experience a sudden resurgence in the past few days. The Reaganist Libertarian Party, or RLP, is currently the prevailing political bloc of the region - though you're welcome to form your own, or revive any old ones you find.
Miencraft, Narland
Reaganist Libertarian Party sounds perfect, how do I join it and apply for regional citizenship ?
Sorry if I'm bombarding you with questions btw
Narland, Rateria, Condealism
That's fine. If I understand the RLP correctly, expressing interest in it is all you really need to do to join. As for citizenship and how to obtain it, [nation=short]The United States of Patriots[/nation] can tell you more.
Miencraft, Narland, Auxorii, Rateria
Alright, I just sent out 1000 recruitment telegrams and got 0 recruits.
Maybe we should start looking into re-wording? It seemed good to me, but I don't know.
Miencraft, Narland, Rateria, Condealism
Half paved roads get tens of upvotes; how many for our Mhomenites in blue?
Rateria, The Aradites
Random opinion: The Incredibles is not only a great animated superhero film, but does an excellent job at broaching libertarian philosophy whilst rebutting authoritarian and straw-Objectivist doctrines.
Miencraft, Pevvania, Narland, Auxorii, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Fairbankska, Jadentopian Order
I support the amendment.
I agree that passing the ACA was one of the biggest acts of fraud in a long time that should have seen the impeachment of numerous government officials. But unfortunately Obamacare is the status quo right now, and whenever you tamper with the status quo you're put under enormous pressure to leave it be. As stated previously the only reason the bill couldn't go further is because of 20-odd Republican statists that voted for full repeal when they were in opposition but now are worried about stripping too much regulation off of the healthcare market.
Also, I just saw that the CBO predicts that the AHCA will cut federal Medicaid funding by 26% by 2027. 26%. That's a beautiful number. When do you EVER hear of an entitlement program being cut by even 1%?
Narland, Condealism
The 11th commandment is dead. The 2016 primary battle finished it off once and for all.
There are loads of RINOs. McCain, Graham, and others are examples of establishment politicians whose own ideas of the Republican Party came about during the Nixon administration. These are not people we should trust.
Condealism
Explain.
Rateria
I don't see the need for impeachment, I just hope that the ACA showed how insanely incompetent the Democratic Party is. It's laughable how well single payer works in other countries and how it's implemented and then that's what the democrats come up with. I really could only see Bernie Sanders being able to implement single payer and universal healthcare successfully in the States, I just want there to be an opt-out for those who can afford higher quality and private insurance. Rand Paul's healthcare bill seemed good. I think it was wrong for the AHCA to allow states to reject the preexisting condition clause, that should've stayed. That being said, the ACA was a complete disaster.
That's great. The Pentagon says there's at least 20% of waste in every government expenditure, so that number fits well. I just wish we would cut down on the military spending way more and bring our troops home.
First of all, welcome to the region Auxorii. I think you're going to really like it here.
Secondly, I'll give a more fleshed out response when I'm back from the gym, but just to clarify, you support either full government healthcare or full free market healthcare? As someone born and raised under single-payer systems... I can tell you they are not 'well implemented', not by a long shot.
Auxorii
The energy that was used to lampoon elected republicans (who vote with the Party on most issues and are in good standing with the caucus) just now could have easily been spent on Elizabeth Warren, Sanders, or Pelosi. The problem with the conservative right labeling every republican that slightly disagrees as a RINO is that it hurts those Republicans opening the door for a liberal Democrat. I'm sure none of us want that.
If you're using the same telegram I did, I mentioned earlier that part of it is actually completely broken; %nation% doesn't change to the name of the nation receiving the telegram.
So it does need a change.
Today marks my 364th day as World Assembly Delegate.
My first year!
Miencraft, Pevvania, Narland, Humpheria, Rateria
Last I checked a full year is 365. Close, though.
Narland, Rateria
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Petition to rename Ipianning to Narlanding.
Also, Ipianning is, like, a vintage meme around here; only the hardcore veterans will remember it... Even better. We need to rename it to Narlanding because of that.
Humpheria, Muh Roads
Why thank you!
Hahaha
(Not an actual quote)
The United States Of Patriots
The Law Frédéric Bastiat, the book of the week, is actually absurdly good.
Anyone who hasn't had a chance to read it, should.
Pevvania, The United States Of Patriots
Unless you consider that 2016 was a leap year. Then we're talking 366. Hyderbourg may have to wait [I]48 hours[/I]. Not sure how the game does leap years.
Rateria, Hyderbourg
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The game either doesn't care at all and just goes 365 days = 1 year, or it actually tracks the exact date something happened, and changes to "1 year" when it's that same date one year later.
It's most likely the second option, but probably with some built-in protection against breaking everything if it has to track something that happened on February 29.
Alternatively it just goes by Unix time and counts like that. That's the most likely out of all the options.
Fine, fine, we'll wait forty-eight hours until I've been the delegate for a year and get crowned king of Libertatem.
Miencraft, Rateria, Condealism, The United States Of Patriots
Not renouncing the violent assault that the AFA was on the liberties, health, and safety of the American people is criminal. I do not want to have to explain to my grandchildren why it is okay to allow a bit of tyranny established by graft and corruption if it lead to promises of less government down the road. History provides once in a lifetime opportunities to be the exemplar very rarely.
Once in a lifetime opportunities must be seized and the GOP--the supposed anti-involuntary servitude party "leaders" (public servants really) passed Obamacare-lite that still lays claim to chattel rights on the health industry and the life health and liberty of the People. They had the opportunity to rise to the occasion casts but their moral stupidity instead casts a sickly shadow on who we are as an American People.
You still wouldn't be the longest-serving delegate. I wonder what happened to our old records? Pevvania, you got that list lying around somewhere?
Hmm, but I would be the longest serving delegate of the Second Republic of Libertatem, I hope...
I mean, technically the WAD position transcends the government of the Republic, because it hasn't been a recognized position since the Presidency was unofficially split off from it in the First Republic.
Fun fact: I don't think there was ever any official split of the Presidency and the Delegacy until the new Constitution, but they've been treated as separate offices pretty much ever since my tenure. Or, one of my tenures. Or the tenure of someone else somewhere near one of my tenures. I'm not sure exactly. I know I was there somewhere.
Humpheria, Condealism
Do you guys know the Confederation of the Auridon Isles?
Was he ever active on the RMB?
What is this Ipianning you speak of, and should I be worried? :)
I remember the name. Don't recall him being very active, but I remember him existing. Why?
It's when you post something, delete it, post it again, delete it, and so on.
Condealism
We went to the same college for a while, about three years ago.
He introduced me to the game and convinced me to move to Libertatem.
I moved to Connecticut shortly after and haven't heard from him in years.
His nation is on today's World Census Report, so I remembered it. Kinda off topic.
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