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Region: Libertatem
Poll is really coming along. Just so everyone is aware, the actual total is at: Pev- 9 Hallo- 1 NV- 2. Citizens and all.
So is everyone happy with the COURT Act? I'd like to put it to vote.
Looks like Cuba finally got their region locked up.
I VOTE YEA!!!!!!!
I really do like Andrew Jackson, but not for his systematic expulsion of the Native Americans (which is an incredible feat in its own right), but for his dissolution of the Second National Bank of the United States. He had a mission and he accomplished it.
Two others I really like are Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Delano Roosevelt, for a long list of reasons, and although Hoover has been credited with being the orchestrator of the Depression, I like a few of his policies. I also like Hoover's support for WWI veterans.
The COURT Act
Codifying Overt Utilities of Regional Tribunals Act
Section I
Purpose of the act
To clearly define the powers of the Attorney-General and the region's court system.
Section II
The High Court
The Libertatem judicial system is to be composed of a single court: the High Court.
The High Court shall address criminal matters as defined by legislation.
Court cases shall be addressed by a judge, a citizen who shall be appointed by the Chairman of the Board, and a jury of 6 citizens that is to be randomly selected via number assignment.
The list of jurors, once selected, will be shown to each legal team. If either legal team feels that the jury is misrepresentative or otherwise inappropriate, they have the right to exercise veto power, in which a new bar of jurors may be called to service, also by random number assignment.
Veto power may be exercised by either team a maximum of once.
Jury service is completely non-compulsory.
The jury and judge shall preside over the arguments of both legal teams, and when these are concluded, the former shall decide whether the defendant is guilty or not guilty, and the latter shall decide what sentence the defendant shall receive if they are guilty.
Section III
Stucture of court cases
In each criminal court case, which will be openly presented on the RMB, there will be two legal teams: the defense and the prosecution.
The defendant shall be represented by a legal defense of his or her choice, which includes whether they wish to defend themselves.
The defendant has the right not to attend their trial, in which case they would be tried in absentia.
The prosecution will be composed of the nation pressing charges against the defendant, or anyone else they delegate this authority to.
The prosecution may drop their charges against the defendant at any time, at which point the court case will end.
A court case begins with each legal team presenting their opening statement, after which each will take turns to demonstrate their arguments, which will end with a closing statement.
The jury must remain silent concerning the case in its duration, and no juror shall offer no opinions in relation to it while they are serving.
Once the closing statements have been presented, the jury shall then deliberate in private and consider the arguments in deciding whether the defendant is guilty or not guilty.
A unanimous result must be achieved, but the judge may accept a 5-1 ruling otherwise.
If the defendant is guilty, the judge may choose the sentence, which is to be enforced by the President.
Section IV
In the event of a mistrial
If it is found at any point that the jury, judge or any other party involved has acted fraudulently or in an otherwise grossly inappropriate manner detrimental to the fair execution of the trial, the Board may declare it a mistrial by a simple majority vote.
In the event of a mistrial, the original verdict is to be reversed and a new trial will be held, with a new jury and a new judge.
The verdict in the newest trial will be binding.
A mistrial may be called a maximum of twice, meaning that no more than three trials may take place before an ultimate binding verdict is reached.
Section V
In occasions when regional security is threatened
In the case of invasion or other instance when regional security is under imminent threat, the President may be granted executive power to defend against attack, and may use any tools at his or her disposal to do so.
Non-imminent security threats can be ejected via majority Board vote and Presidential approval.
Section VI
Other powers
The President may be granted the power by this Act to create a civil court for the region, should the need arise.
The President may be granted the power to compile a list of criminal offences. The Board may challenge any one of these offences with a super-majority vote.
The President may be granted the power to pardon any convicted offenders, and the power to rescind a pardon.
The Manager of Internal Affairs must keep a public record of all trials, crimes and convicted offenders.
Authored by Pevvania.
I'm going to sign a YEA vote with really BIG LETTERS. YEA YEA YEA!
Can't tell if this is a joke, or fundamentally different from accepted world view
Kennedy, FDR, and James Monroe
His concern for economic liberty and the poor is admirable, and dismantling the National Bank was a great accomplishment. But his support for slavery and the way he treated Native Americans were morally reprehensible.
I think they're the two worst Presidents in US history, along with Andrew Johnson. And Hoover basically started the New Deal.
I like Kennedy, because he was a very conservative Democrat.
Reagan and Coolidge
I've detected a noticeable split in the libertarian community concerning Ronald Reagan. Some see him as a great man who made some remarkable reforms during his Presidency, others view him as some kind of neo-con. The latter assertion is absurd, and I will debunk it tomorrow in an extension I'll add to my essay-ish piece "Myths, Lies and Fallacies about the Legacy of Ronald Reagan"
Reagan Coolidge Kennedy (in that order)
Welcome back, Ronacria! Please, grab a drink, soak in the hot tub, or grab a delicious appetiser from the snack bar!
COURT Act
M 2/3
B 2/5
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But what about Grover Cleveland, or as I like to call him, Doctor Veto?
I'll vote YEA for the COURT act.
Is that a Pev original? I'm totally going to steal that by the way
That title is reserved for Gary Johnson.
Care to cast a poll vote, for the sake of future records?
Indeed it is ^_^ And go right ahead
Not a president...
*sobs at what could have been
"THOSE FOOLS"
I was going to any way, intellectual property is no property at all,lol
No, he's Governor Veto.
Gary Johnson was an extremely good Governor, and a damn fine Presidential candidate. But a couple of things about him stick out for me - he had a habit of handing out no-bid contracts, and, bizarrely, suggested that if he were President he'd send US troops to go after Kony.
Just some things to keep in mind, before sitting as governor he ran his own handy man business and was vastly familiar with the construction/contractor sector of New Mexico. Not that his knowledge justified no bid contracts, but it gives context to his cost analysis ability in that field. Secondly, we all made mistakes after kony 2012.... It was for the children!
It seems not many have voted on the COURT Act yet.
I don't like Andrew Jackson's destruction of the Native Americans, and his support for slavery was to be condemned. I only like him because of his support for the common man and defending the United States as a whole.
Wilson and Roosevelt navigated us successfully through two of the largest conflicts history has known, and they deserve credit for such, no matter what political affiliation you have.
Like my post if you want Gary Johnson to go after King Kony.
And the worst President in the history of the United States is Buchanan. He did almost nothing to let the country plummet into civil war. I would disagree with anyone that says he deserves anywhere but last place.
He should certainly be in the bottom five, but what you're saying is that the White House's biggest racist (Wilson) doesn't deserve last place, nor does the man who expanded the federal bureaucracy, increased government spending to the point of no return, and held hundreds of thousands of innocent Japanese Americans in concentration camps (FDR).
They weren't our wars (debatable for ww2), they both baited the country into reelecting them on a peace platform, and they both drew the nation into the conflict.
I suppose that's true about Wilson, but Roosevelt's wartime 'achievements' are greatly exaggerated. Before the war even began he gut the military, and as late as 1938 the nation was totally unprepared for war. He was completely blindsided by the Pearl Harbour Attack, despite many indicators suggesting that it would likely happen. As for leading the war, he actually had much less to do with it than many think. He largely delegated military strategy to George Marshall, Dwight Eisenhower and other generals. In fact in 1944 - the year of the Normandy Invasion - he only worked 180 4-hour days, taking frequent vacations. His diplomatic efforts were also disastrous. In fact, his giveaway of Eastern Europe to the Soviet Union probably created the Cold War.
Repatriating 2 million Soviet refugees and interning 112,000 Japanese Americans weren't exactly good things, either.
I feel quite sorry for Buchanan. He was a kind man who wanted to be great, but in the end was overwhelmed by the job. He was also probably the only homosexual US President.
What was Teddy Roosevelt's problem? Goes from Republican into Progressive? Makes no sense at all.
He was Gay?
Not to the point of no return. Thankfully, the Conservative Coalition reversed the majority of his "reforms" during and after the war. But several of his more parasitic creations still linger - the minimum wage, Social Security...
At the time the GOP was split between the conservative faction and the progressive faction. He fell into the latter.
It's likely. Wiki him.
It is widely accepted by historians that he was. Though never confirmed.
No, he was fabulous.
Commodus (the villain in 'Gladiator') was also supposedly a homosexual emperor.
I don't beleive Ronald Reagan is as great as he is made out. He lowered taxes and increased government spending, putting our nation in debt, allowed the sell of weapons both Iraq and Iran, and had a nut job wife.
On greater importance. My dog ate my bow tie!
[quote=northern_prussia;6015110]I don't beleive Ronald Reagan is as great as he is made out. He lowered taxes and increased government spending, putting our nation in debt, allowed the sell of weapons both Iraq and Iran, and had a nut job wife.
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Except for how he only increased spending because we had the "extra" money to spend. We'd been in debt for decades before Reagan, and it actually slowed down a bit during his time.
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Oh, because Michelle Obama is just the pinnacle of First Ladies. http://goo.gl/VS1xrU
Never said Michelle was anything. Our debt went past 1 trillion under Reagan and continued to grow. Now you may think is a dear leader that has no wrong. Well sorry lad you are wrong
Isn't it so strange how Tom Buchanan looks so much like Adolf Hitler...
http://goo.gl/fJkIOT
"Last year it was reported that Obama added more to National Debt in his first 19 months than all U.S. presidents through Ronald Reagan combined with an increase of $2.5260 trillion. " http://www.wealthwire.com/news/finance/1520
I think Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky is my favorite gay person ever.
What about the rumors that Lincoln was gay?
He was more likely to be bisexuals then gay.
Once again i NEVER said he was the only one.
No, you just used false information that is commonly peddled by bleeding-heart Carter lovers.
Carter, One of the worst Presidents ever.
@ Minerva
can I ask why you abstained from this vote
Need time to read it later, busy atm.
Agreedbon Carter, but my education does not lie, my books do not lie, the millions of dead Iraqis and Iranians at the end of an american M16 due to the Iran-contra affair is a fact not a lie. The massive buildup of our military and the creation of the "star wars" system is a expensive and wasteful fact. The massive ammounts of money to topple governments in Libya, Egypt, Iran, and China is a fact. The continued financial aidto continue the Guatemalan Civil War is a fact.the funding of Afghanistan terrorist organizations that use American weapons today to kill American soldiers is a fact. President Reagan is not all that he seems he is just a dirty politician as many others. All presidents have there ups and downs except for Carter, he sucked. The fact is Reagan is the knight in shining armour. Now lets move on.
Oh, I thought i was missing some line that sold my soul to pev or something
He's the only President to run on both tickets. I call that an accomplishment, if it ever was one.
The First Lady does a lot for the families of military veterans, so I appreciate her efforts. She's the one that pushed for the changing of the diet in American school systems. The school systems under federal control underwent the most change. Our entire cafeteria staff was purged.
http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/27/kentucky-students-to-first-lady-michelle-obama-your-food-tastes-like-vomit/
http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/22/nations-children-push-back-against-michelle-obama-backed-school-lunch-regs/
http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/public-global-health/240641-health-group-pans-lets-move-campaign-as-timid-sputtering
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/03/16/michelle-obamas-childhood-obesity-lets-move-campaign-helps-bullies.html
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/10/04/michelle-obamas-africa-vacation-cost-more-than-432142
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/michelle-obama-china-trip-costs/2014/03/24/id/561408/
On your talk about her "helping" veterans:
http://nation.time.com/2011/09/19/michelle-obamas-veterans-initiative-meat-or-just-sizzle/
Must I go on? All of these sites, if you don't wish to read them, point out why I believe Michelle Obama is the worst First Lady we have ever had.
She has done a lot for the families of military veterans...like when she, a national figurehead, appeared on the Nickelodeon Kid's Choice Awards.
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Diverting more taxes to the American Public Education System...
The whole bloody system is ridiculously bureaucratic. The amount of money wasted on useless programs is sickening.
Believe me, a family member of a multi-tour veteran, she has helped us. Just because it isn't front-page news, doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. She's really supportive of our community.
Besides from an "initiative" created with the sole purpose of distract the American public and dirty politics, she has done nothing of the sort.
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My senior year that was instated, and we would be given a corn dog, "healthy", and like two pieces of broccoli and nothing else. One kid tried to hand out some extra food and got expelled for "undermining national law". Really helpful. Thank you Mrs. Obama.
If she really wanted to help you, she'd speak to her husband about all these missing pensions.
I guess the way you state enforces it is different than the way the federal government does. Each state has control of the enforcement of the policies involving the First Lady and the Education Department. Our school is federally-run, and we aren't that strict. That's just your state. Don't blame the Big Woman Up Top.
My father doesn't get a pension yet (he is still active duty). My grandfathers, on the other hand, get theirs. The pension cuts are not on quite the scale that you would imagine.
No. She is supportive of her husband and his regime. She looks like she is supportive of your community to get votes. I also don;t think that she cares about individual towns like yours, just spending 42,000 dollars of our money to go to China. That is a big pie. Also, she hasn't helped your family. Her initiative does nothing for families. That's not even what she says it's about. By face value it's about morale and gathering support for the Obamas amongst veterans, a demographic they suffer in.
I didn't mean my literal community. I meant the military community. Since we make up less than 1% of the population, the military considers itself a community of sorts. And for your information, she has helped my family.
There was a cardboard cutout of her. And a framed federal mandate at the entrance. Titled the "Let's Move! Campaign Mandate". It was signed by whom you may ask? Director of the Let's Move Campaign. Michelle Obama. I live in Indiana. It is not state run, our governor refused. We are a conservative state, we would never force our children to undergo that cruelty.
Don't act like the federal government hates you. They're only doing what they believe is for the betterment of the nation.
How? How has she helped your family? Explain to me how, rather than just saying she has and expecting that to be fact. Or, like most who get stuck defending the Obamas, do you not have any evidence? Please don't dodge the question like your compatriots, just tell us if you don't have anything.
The law was made to rid the nation of fat kids. To stop fat kid bullying. All the law does is proliferate bullying. It puts people like that on a pedestal of self-loathing. That is a hella dank way of bettering them, huh? On top of that, why is is their business what I eat? The federal government should defend my borders and keep up my roads. That's it. Not mandate what goes in MY body for our "betterment". The federal government doesn't hate me, but I hate it.
The Obamas are a bunch of Traitors.
What is "it"?
Have you heard of the Wounded Warrior Project before? She's helped with getting the caregivers of wounded veterans the resources they need to perform their job at best, and she has also assisted wounded veterans themselves. Helping out a brother-in-arms is enough for me and my family. She's been there for sufferers of PTSD and receivers of the Purple Heart. It does us good to see a fellow soldier getting the help he needs, rather than being forgotten because of budget cuts that don't allow for a few more wounded warriors. She's ensured that everyone gets the care they deserve.
Ditto
Read the post I just lodged and tell me that they're traitors again.
And if you can think of something other than "I won't tell you how, but she does.", I hope you can see that "initiative" for what it is. A ploy, a trick, something to fool the public. And you happened to be foolish enough to believe it. The program was created to garner support from the Veterans of the nation. I hold no faction in higher regards. Which is why I am outraged at how easily she has taken advantage of them, and you, in the name of her husband. She is an excellent politician. And you drank the kool-aid.
The Let's Move! Campaign.
Are you suggesting that the Wounded Warrior Project is a ploy by the Obama administration? Humpheria, I'll have you know that the program was created in 2003 (which, if you know your history well enough, was during the Bush administration) to assist veterans of the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan in the events following September 11th. The program is apolitical and unbiased. It's only meant to help those who deserve it, for God's sake.
I'm not even arguing politics. I'm not a Democrat, and my family actually votes Republican. I'm just arguing the WWP for moral reasons. Do you all really believe that the WWP is a worthless organization?
You have got to be kidding me! The wounded warrior progect is supported by her to let those not be forgotten. My father suffers from ptsd and has recievd the best care thanks to Michelle. These soldiers give the ultimate sacrisfise, so jerks like you can run your mouth. Here is just a reminder freedom is not free.
My father has PTSD, and honestly the program (which is due in part to both Bush and Obama, contrary to popular belief) helps out thousands with their injuries. If the WWP wasn't around you would hear about a lot more shootings and soldier suicides, I can tell you that. Until you have to see war for what it is, don't insult the military and what it does for you.
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Yes, of course I've heard of the WWP. I'm a community sponsor. It was founded by a group of veterans in Roanoke, Virginia. Why do you insist that it is a project of the Obama administration. Obama went to ONE national conference and the Queen has never been affiliated. You're not talking about the same thing. Please, do your research before you blast propaganda. I was under the assumption that we were talking about Michelle Obama. But now you have used a popular tactic by making my look like I hate wounded veterans because you can't win the argument. I thought we were having an civil debate, I apologize for not understanding that you were one of those people. And, please refrain from assuming that I hate the military because I don't like Obama's program, which is not the WWP, I didn't realize being a volunteer for the WWP, an active member of a local program which ships care packages, and one that can boast perfect attendance to every Bloomington Veterans' Day Parade since 2003 makes me hate the military because you don't know what you're talking about. I apologize.
Like I said, you have to insult me because you don't know what you were talking about and you lost an argument. The people here know me, they know my story. You don't.
Like protect the interests of the federal reserve abroad. How else could we maintain a stable fiat and maintain the world's dominant reserve currency without the guns to back up our claims.
What's Your Story?
If you would read what I posted you would deduce that I did not say that the WWP was a product of the Obama administration. The extensive support it has received from both the Bush and Obama administrations has helped to further increase the influence and abilities of the WWP. I did not once say it was a product of the current President. I did say, however, that the First Lady is an extensive supporter of the program, and that due to her efforts she has secured resources to the organization. I did not once "blast propaganda".
It appeared to me that you hated veterans when you went on that tangent about a "trick" I was trying to pull. Your wording made that apparent to more than one of us.
Like a libertarian
Lack there of, the military does a lot more than protect our foreign interests. Do you know who the world's strongest military currently is?
AYE! Liberosa
"You unlock this door with the key of imagination. Beyond it is another dimension - a dimension of sound, a dimension of sight, a dimension of mind. You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas. You've just crossed over into the Humpheria Zone. "
"There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Humpheria Zone. "
"You are about to enter another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land of imagination. Next stop, the Humpheria Zone! "
"You're traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination. That's the signpost up ahead - your next stop, the Humpheria Zone!"
"You are traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land of imagination. Next stop, the Humpheria Zone!
Good day.
"Help, I'm steppin' into the Humpheria Zone!
This place is a madhouse, feels like being cloned!"
Tag, feiner Knabe.
I am well aware of the US's expenditures on the "defense budget" and the abilities of our armed forces. I hold no disrespect for those who are enlisted, more like a dull pity. Our entire global presence is based dominance and fear. I recognize that those who enlist believe they are doing what is best for their country and i respect that ideal, but I wish they would look into what they are actually signing their life over too.
I'm sorry, Humpheria, for being so jumpy on the WWP thing. That just really hits home, you know? It's hard not to let a bit of passion get into what I type when something that near and dear to me, my friends, and my family is debated.
It's for a greater purpose, really. Those who do it for the honorable reasons enlist to serve a cause greater than themselves. That sounds like a bunch of propaganda, but it really isn't. I think that serving the armed forces is one of the greatest duties a man can do for his people.
But, one part of my story that they don't know is that in 2006, my father was killed in a village in Afghanistan. He served three tours. He was in the reserves. He was a week away from being dismissed homebound. Don't you dare lecture me on the sacrifices of the military. Do you know what it's like? To have an empty chair at your graduation? To see one less face at your weeding? To tell your children that their grandfather was the greatest man you ever knew, he gave his life for their freedom, he gave his life for a corrupt government, one that you defend. Do you know what it's like to never see your father again? Do you know what it's like to be pulled out of school at ten years old and told that your beloved daddy was killed by terrorists in a different country fighting for different children? I will never be able to say goodbye to my father. I was asleep when he left. Don't you dare tell me about those sacrifices, and don't you dare tell me thatr they help. They cut my mother's survivor's fund. They are the reason that she almost went bankrupt when she was to distraught raising four children and just learning that her husband of thirteen years was killed. Now, I'm in tears, I am about to break my computer in rage. Lecture me on sacrifice. You know nothing of sacrifice.
My father knows the sacrifices that you have undergone. I've lost a great uncle due to war. My father lost two friends. My friend lost his father (I'm actually wearing the POW/MIA bracelet with his name on it now). My friend's father lost his friends. We've all been through things. I have not experienced the loss of my father firsthand, no, and I'm sorry that you've gone through that. I'm sorry that you've had to go through those empty times. You're not alone. Humpheria, if I had known you were a part of the military community I would have ceased argument immediately. It is all too often that Northern Prussia and I encounter ignorant buffoons who claim to know so much about the military and the way it is. I'm sorry for this argument. I thought I was defending the ways of people like you, Northern Prussia, and me, when actually it has been more a civil war. Let's move past this.
Though I can't say the same for me, but do you even no what ita like to see your father serve two tours, mother one, step father eight, and your brother who was just eight years old. Fight in this war today in Afghanistan.
Well, that would make sense considering the fact that your pension is supposed to come once you retire.
I believe those affected by the cuts wouldn't say quite the same.
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