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Midland County wrote:It looks like Minerva literally did nothing for his office of Manager of State. I'll have a factbook up today.

Once again,

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=hallo_island/detail=factbook/id=446314

Conform.

Jesus Christ. Does the Department of State even exist? Are there any diplomats? If so, who? Does anybody want to be a diplomat?

Midland County wrote:Jesus Christ. Does the Department of State even exist? Are there any diplomats? If so, who? Does anybody want to be a diplomat?

Sounds like we got a good choice.

Once again, to be that guy that knows the laws. If you officially appoint Midland, and not keep him on an interim basis, there needs to be a by-election for his Board Seat. So I would recommend keeping him on an interim basis.

Humpheria wrote:Sounds like we got a good choice.

Once again, to be that guy that knows the laws. If you officially appoint Midland, and not keep him on an interim basis, there needs to be a by-election for his Board Seat. So I would recommend keeping him on an interim basis.

I'd actually like to stay here and actually make a Department of State that functions. I mean, it's like my 7th board term. I wouldn't miss it too much.

So what's this diplomat lark all about then? You just take your puppet over and be like, 'yo, we're Libertatem let's create embassies," and then you return to the HQ like your James Bond as a 70 year old man or something.

Midland County

Midland County wrote:Jesus Christ. Does the Department of State even exist? Are there any diplomats? If so, who? Does anybody want to be a diplomat?

I'd like to be a diplomat.

Midland County wrote:I'd actually like to stay here and actually make a Department of State that functions. I mean, it's like my 7th board term. I wouldn't miss it too much.

The presidents term isn't very long, so I personally think you could stay on for the rest of the time as an interim, but that would be up to the President.

Also I've been wandering for a really long time, is it Lib-er-tay-tum (as in Channing Tatum) or Lib-er-tar-tum (as in tarmac and how I've always said it it in my head)?

Wovenland wrote:Also I've been wandering for a really long time, is it Lib-er-tay-tum (as in Channing Tatum) or Lib-er-tar-tum (as in tarmac and how I've always said it it in my head)?

The former. Lib er tay tum.

Humpheria wrote:The former. Lib er tay tum.

Huh. I always thought it was pronounced Lib er tat em.

I'm going to get to work on a factbook and if anybody wants to be a diplomat I'll add them.

Midland County wrote:I'm going to get to work on a factbook and if anybody wants to be a diplomat I'll add them.

Go on then, count me in.

How was Reagan a good president?

Libr wrote:How was Reagan a good president?

He was very much not Libertarian.

He was closest to Libertarian US leader since the founders.

The RLP would answer this question better

Libr wrote:He was very much not Libertarian.

But, among the modern Presidents, he was the closest we've had. Not to mention that he promoted deregulation of the economy.

The American Empire In Libertatem wrote:He was closest to Libertarian US leader since the founders.

To be fair, Alexander Hamilton advocated the very things that we fight, and he is considered a founding father.

Pevvania

Albuli Capitalist Sector wrote:But, among the modern Presidents, he was the closest we've had. Not to mention that he promoted deregulation of the economy.

To be fair, Alexander Hamilton advocated the very things that we fight, and he is considered a founding father.

Actually, Hamilton was a douchebag, but okay.

Pevvania, Albuli Capitalist Sector

Condealism wrote:...Albul?

He renounced communism, apparently.

Condealism wrote:...Albul?

The one and only!

Albuli Capitalist Sector wrote:The one and only!

Welcome back to NationStates. I thought I'd seen the last of you during that, eh, that incident in Das Kommune.

Libr wrote:How was Reagan a good president?

Libr wrote:He was very much not Libertarian.

Make no mistake, he was a conservative, but one who cared little for the socially conservative agenda of many in the Republican Party. He did little to advance abortion restrictions while president, nor did he deliberately block the march of gay rights. His goals were restoring the free-market economy and winning the Cold War without going to war, which I think are two goals he succeeded at very well. The number of Federal Register pages was cut in half during his presidency as growth in regulation was reduced. Effective and marginal tax rates were slashed across the board. Welfare and domestic spending programs either were reduced or did not increase in size. Spending went up, unfortunately, but shifting spending from welfare programs to military programs in order to confront communism led to a 'peace dividend' in the 90s that allowed for the balanced budgets of the late Clinton Administration. Important spending caps were also put into law during the Reagan Administration. Reagan himself despised the neo-cons in his administration, calling them "bastards". He refused to go to war with Lebanon and pulled troops out after marines were killed, and refused to go to war in Latin America, preferring to arm anti-communist guerrillas. Reagan used US military power sparingly and with restraint, engaging enemies in special circumstances. I'd argue that he was more non-interventionist than any president since. And even if you disagree with the Reagan Doctrine from a libertarian standpoint, the effects of this policy were libertarian, in that it led to the creation of numerous liberal democracies, which are very good alternatives to communist regimes. This policy differs significantly with neo-conservatism, because its goals were to overthrow communism rather than nation-building, which was done by the inhabitants of the former regimes themselves.

I think that Reagan had plenty of faults, and could have used his veto power much more often, but he was the most libertarian president since Coolidge.

Condealism

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Condealism wrote:Welcome back to NationStates. I thought I'd seen the last of you during that, eh, that incident in Das Kommune.

Kek, nah. I was waiting things out. I've been busy at an internship.

Eh, we can hold a board election. Give the new guys a shot maybe..?

Albuli Capitalist Sector wrote:The one and only!

Yeah...

What made you want to come here?

Our charming personalities, of course ;)

Pevvania wrote:Make no mistake, he was a conservative, but one who cared little for the socially conservative agenda of many in the Republican Party. He did little to advance abortion restrictions while president, nor did he deliberately block the march of gay rights. His goals were restoring the free-market economy and winning the Cold War without going to war, which I think are two goals he succeeded at very well. The number of Federal Register pages was cut in half during his presidency as growth in regulation was reduced. Effective and marginal tax rates were slashed across the board. Welfare and domestic spending programs either were reduced or did not increase in size. Spending went up, unfortunately, but shifting spending from welfare programs to military programs in order to confront communism led to a 'peace dividend' in the 90s that allowed for the balanced budgets of the late Clinton Administration. Important spending caps were also put into law during the Reagan Administration. Reagan himself despised the neo-cons in his administration, calling them "bastards". He refused to go to war with Lebanon and pulled troops out after marines were killed, and refused to go to war in Latin America, preferring to arm anti-communist guerrillas. Reagan used US military power sparingly and with restraint, engaging enemies in special circumstances. I'd argue that he was more non-interventionist than any president since. And even if you disagree with the Reagan Doctrine from a libertarian standpoint, the effects of this policy were libertarian, in that it led to the creation of numerous liberal democracies, which are very good alternatives to communist regimes. This policy differs significantly with neo-conservatism, because its goals were to overthrow communism rather than nation-building, which was done by the inhabitants of the former regimes themselves.

I think that Reagan had plenty of faults, and could have used his veto power much more often, but he was the most libertarian president since Coolidge.

What about his War On Drugs? Or how about His horrible treatment of the environment?

Libr, can you give us an example of a more libertarian president?

Condealism wrote:Libr, can you give us an example of a more libertarian president?

A more economically libertarian president was Andrew Jackson, but I am not sure much about his social policies.

Albuli Capitalist Sector wrote:A more economically libertarian president was Andrew Jackson, but I am not sure much about his social policies.

Such as slaughtering natives

Pevvania

Is TTA still around?

I was looking for some more foreign relations info and I got lost in Pev's Reagan super-factbook.

Pevvania

Board seat 1 is now up for grabs... let's get this going.. candidates?

Somebody say something

I motion that we, the Board, now vote on the amended TABLOID Act.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_new_united_states/detail=factbook/id=452941

Aye

So I'm not included in this vote, correct?

Hallo Island wrote:Somebody say something

I find this recent drama interesting.

Midland County wrote:So I'm not included in this vote, correct?

Correct, your the new manager of state.

Tyrinth wrote:I find this recent drama interesting.

What drama?

The New United States wrote:I motion that we, the Board, now vote on the amended TABLOID Act.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_new_united_states/detail=factbook/id=452941

Aye

Nay

Let's not turn the government into a slow nightmare

Hallo Island wrote:What drama?Nay

Let's not turn the government into a slow nightmare

You seem to want to spout the same line over and over, but fail to ever join in argument when I attempt to initiate. Wonderful.

Hallo Island wrote:What drama?

Whatever it is that Minerva is doing.

I'd rather have a legislature that churns out high-quality, thoroughly discussed legislation at a slightly slower rate, than a legislature that meets only to pass/trash whatever bill hits their desks, the moment that it hits their desks.

Pevvania

The New United States wrote:You seem to want to spout the same line over and over, but fail to ever join in argument when I attempt to initiate. Wonderful.

And you seem to want to take my job, but you don't see me whining about that.

Hallo Island wrote:And you seem to want to take my job, but you don't see me whining about that.

He wouldn't have to do your job for you if you did it.

Hallo Island wrote:And you seem to want to take my job, but you don't see me whining about that.

I'm not whining about anything, nor have I expressed any interest in any job but my own.

I wish that you would show an interest in your own job by earnestly arguing your side, regarding the proposed legislation, instead of deflecting and posting the same one-liner.

The New United States wrote:I'm not whining about anything, nor have I expressed any interest in any job but my own.

I wish that you would show an interest in your own job by earnestly arguing your side, regarding the proposed legislation, instead of deflecting and posting the same one-liner.

Oh, am I not doing my job well enough for you?

Hallo Island wrote:Oh, am I not doing my job well enough for you?

Well, I'd prefer it if you actually argued about the legislation at-hand, rather than attack me and claim that I came to take yer jawb.

The New United States wrote:Well, I'd prefer it if you actually argued about the legislation at-hand, rather than attack me and claim that I came to take yer jawb.

It's useless to say anything about the legislature; it's going to pass.

I'd just rather you leave the leadership of the board to me.

also, who can make a flag?

The HQ is up and running. Wovenland and Kings Island are diplomats.

Kings Island

When are Pres. elections?

Hallo Island wrote:also, who can make a flag?

I can. What is it that you want?

The New United States wrote:I can. What is it that you want?

nevermind, I got someone else

Hallo Island wrote:nevermind, I got someone else

Okeydokey.

Midland County wrote:When are Pres. elections?

Current legal issue. The PA says its this month but because of a mistake when we first began, that would make Muhs term short. Pev and the AG are discussing.

Last night, I was offered the position of Interior Manager by Humpheria. Initially, I planned on declining this offer.

But following negotiation with the RLP, I have received assurances for legislative reform centered on strengthening the house.

After careful consideration, I have decided that progress must be placed before politics. I hereby withdraw my candidacy for president and accept the above offer.

Though I look forward to working with Humpheria, I will continue to lead the Party for Open Governance and to advocate for reform.

Vivat Libertatem!

Pevvania, The New United States, Reaganomic Nws

Humpheria wrote:Current legal issue. The PA says its this month but because of a mistake when we first began, that would make Muhs term short. Pev and the AG are discussing.

Humpy:

The New United States wrote:I motion that we, the Board, now vote on the amended TABLOID Act.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_new_united_states/detail=factbook/id=452941

Aye

Kings Island wrote:Last night, I was offered the position of Interior Manager by Humpheria. Initially, I planned on declining this offer.

But following negotiation with the RLP, I have received assurances for legislative reform centered on strengthening the house.

After careful consideration, I have decided that progress must be placed before politics. I hereby withdraw my candidacy for president and accept the above offer.

Though I look forward to working with Humpheria, I will continue to lead the Party for Open Governance and to advocate for reform.

Vivat Libertatem!

You can still run... Humpheria isn't guaranteed presidency.

Muh Roads wrote:You can still run... Humpheria isn't guaranteed presidency.

The only thing that could even maybe stop Hump from winning would be for you to run for another term.

Muh Roads wrote:Board seat 1 is now up for grabs... let's get this going.. candidates?

I will run under POG.

Kings Island, Pevvania, Humpheria

Kings Island wrote:Last night, I was offered the position of Interior Manager by Humpheria. Initially, I planned on declining this offer.

But following negotiation with the RLP, I have received assurances for legislative reform centered on strengthening the house.

After careful consideration, I have decided that progress must be placed before politics. I hereby withdraw my candidacy for president and accept the above offer.

Though I look forward to working with Humpheria, I will continue to lead the Party for Open Governance and to advocate for reform.

Vivat Libertatem!

I'm glad the POG is putting progress before politics and I look forward to having your wise input on the Cabinet, if elected.

Kings Island, The American Empire In Libertatem

I would like to apologize to the region for my past radical behavior. Our system does need reform but i should not be complaining about how the board is chosen. I,along with the rest of the POG will attempt to compromise and act like any other Libertatem Politician. I am sorry Libertatem;whining solves nothing.

Kings Island

Holy 108 messages. Thanks, vacation.

Landosenrego

Also, I hope my office suits you well, KI.

Take good care of her; I will leave you with a new testing system (soon, by the way, and let me know if that offer to take the test and re-earn citizenship still stands, guys who decided to do that). I ask simply that you will carry that on as my legacy when you take my office, should no challenger rise to defeat Humph.

Miencraft wrote:Also, I hope my office suits you well, KI.

Take good care of her; I will leave you with a new testing system (soon, by the way, and let me know if that offer to take the test and re-earn citizenship still stands, guys who decided to do that). I ask simply that you will carry that on as my legacy when you take my office, should no challenger rise to defeat Humph.

Of course. I'm sorry to knock you out of a job considering your impressive work record, and will of course continue your legacy. I would of course still like to re-take the test.

Miencraft

Miencraft wrote:Also, I hope my office suits you well, KI.

Take good care of her; I will leave you with a new testing system (soon, by the way, and let me know if that offer to take the test and re-earn citizenship still stands, guys who decided to do that). I ask simply that you will carry that on as my legacy when you take my office, should no challenger rise to defeat Humph.

I think I'd like to re-test at some point. Not right now, though.

Miencraft

Kings Island wrote:Of course. I'm sorry to knock you out of a job considering your impressive work record, and will of course continue your legacy. I would of course still like to re-take the test.

I also still intend to take the test.

Miencraft

Kings Island wrote:Of course. I'm sorry to knock you out of a job considering your impressive work record, and will of course continue your legacy. I would of course still like to re-take the test.

It's about time some new meat has found the Internal Affairs Office.

Perhaps it's about time for me to work down towards retirement anyways. We'll see how things go.

Miencraft wrote:Holy 108 messages. Thanks, vacation.

Some +500 messages when I checked in today. Visiting family in California, I would say many of these northern Californians would like to have a government more like Libertatem. I've seen quite a few State of Jefferson flags around here; what does Libertatem think of this particular movement?

Post self-deleted by The New United States.

Tadaaaa: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=midland_county/detail=factbook/id=main

On this day, the 19th of July, in the year of our Lord 2015, I am proud to announce that I am resigning my place in the RLP and am officially opening the offices of the Conservative Party.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_new_united_states/detail=factbook/id=452143

Vivat Libertatem,

[nation=short]The New United States[/nation]

Chairman of the Conservatives

The American Empire In Libertatem

The New United States wrote:On this day, the 19th of July, in the year of our Lord 2015, I am proud to announce that I am resigning my place in the RLP and am officially opening the offices of the Conservative Party.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_new_united_states/detail=factbook/id=452143

Vivat Libertatem,

[nation=short]The New United States[/nation]

Chairman of the Conservatives

That factbook was pretty infuriating.

The New United States wrote:On this day, the 19th of July, in the year of our Lord 2015, I am proud to announce that I am resigning my place in the RLP and am officially opening the offices of the Conservative Party.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_new_united_states/detail=factbook/id=452143

Vivat Libertatem,

[nation=short]The New United States[/nation]

Chairman of the Conservatives

The Factbook is so pretty but oh man that's awful

Let's just all found parties that make Hallo Island furious now. Here are some suggestions for names!

The Kill All Gays Party

The LGBTQDie Party

The Ian Curtis Was Impersonating Jim Morrison Party

The Confederate Party

The Jesus Party (looks like TNUS already got that one)

The Fetus Party

The Ayn Rand Party

The Coldplay Party

Midland County, The American Empire In Libertatem

The New United States wrote:On this day, the 19th of July, in the year of our Lord 2015, I am proud to announce that I am resigning my place in the RLP and am officially opening the offices of the Conservative Party.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_new_united_states/detail=factbook/id=452143

Vivat Libertatem,

[nation=short]The New United States[/nation]

Chairman of the Conservatives

You don't need to resign the party. There is such thing as dual membership.

The New United States wrote:On this day, the 19th of July, in the year of our Lord 2015, I am proud to announce that I am resigning my place in the RLP and am officially opening the offices of the Conservative Party.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_new_united_states/detail=factbook/id=452143

Vivat Libertatem,

[nation=short]The New United States[/nation]

Chairman of the Conservatives

Good luck,the more parties we have the better.

The Factbook basically said that you had to be Christian to be conservative.

Also it low key condemned homosexuals, but that's neither here nor there.

The New United States wrote:On this day, the 19th of July, in the year of our Lord 2015, I am proud to announce that I am resigning my place in the RLP and am officially opening the offices of the Conservative Party.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_new_united_states/detail=factbook/id=452143

Vivat Libertatem,

[nation=short]The New United States[/nation]

Chairman of the Conservatives

Good luck.

The American Empire In Libertatem wrote:Good luck,the more parties we have the better.

Yeah, that's not necessarily true. You should not just start a bunch of garbage parties that won't get any seats or positions and become defunct in a month.

Miencraft, Kings Island, Humpheria

Hallo Island wrote:Yeah, that's not necessarily true. You should not just start a bunch of garbage parties that won't get any seats or positions and become defunct in a month.

You are right Hallo. Some parties would not bring anything to the table.

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Ok, Y'all. I made a poll for you guys to vote on what types of regions you would want us to seek embassies with. Please participate.http://www.poll-maker.com/poll365808x515c4Dc6-14

Humpheria wrote:You don't need to resign the party. There is such thing as dual membership.

Oh, hey, that's an idea. Let's do that!

Midland County wrote:Ok, Y'all. I made a poll for you guys to vote on what types of regions you would want us to seek embassies with. Please participate.http://www.poll-maker.com/poll365808x515c4Dc6-14

Which one of y'all hussies voted for fascist embassies

Midland County wrote:Ok, Y'all. I made a poll for you guys to vote on what types of regions you would want us to seek embassies with. Please participate.http://www.poll-maker.com/poll365808x515c4Dc6-14

Athesits are leading as of now (5 votes till now)

I also voted atheist

I sincerely request anyone with even minimal Photoshop skills to please suggest a better flag, i will back that flag, the current flag makes it feel as if our region exists only to fight communism (which is now non-existent)

Kings Island, Hallo Island, The American Empire In Libertatem, Wovenland

Landosenrego wrote:Some +500 messages when I checked in today. Visiting family in California, I would say many of these northern Californians would like to have a government more like Libertatem. I've seen quite a few State of Jefferson flags around here; what does Libertatem think of this particular movement?

As someone who's quite interested in vexillology, I find the seal is really ugly and ruins the flag. That being said, you Americans aren't renowned in taking much care for your flags, I mean about half of them look the same anyway.

Hallo Island

Wovenland wrote:As someone who's quite interested in vexillology, I find the seal is really ugly and ruins the flag. That being said, you Americans aren't renowned in taking much care for your flags, I mean about half of them look the same anyway.

Watch it Woven. *scowls*

Can somebody give me a brief update of what's happened over the past week? I've tried to keep up with the RMB, but there have been a lot of messages.

Also, I fully support the TABLOIDS Act. It's a fine proposal that would prevent any laws from being hurriedly passed by the Board without the public's knowledge.

Pevvania, could you please add the Party for Open Governance to the political parties list?

Kings Island wrote:Pevvania, could you please add the Party for Open Governance to the political parties list?

Sure thing. Can you send me a little description of your party before I do so? Makes my job easier :) I should hand that factbook over to Internal Affairs, to be honest.

Why is Minerva no longer Manager of State?

Pevvania wrote:Can somebody give me a brief update of what's happened over the past week? I've tried to keep up with the RMB, but there have been a lot of messages.

Also, I fully support the TABLOIDS Act. It's a fine proposal that would prevent any laws from being hurriedly passed by the Board without the public's knowledge.

24 hours have passed since a vote was motioned and, therefore, the vote has ended, pursuant to Article I, Section I:VI.

The vote appears to have failed, at 2-1-2 (TNUS Yea, RWN Yea, Hallo Nay, Humpheria Absent, Midland County Absent).

I strongly encourage the House to vote on the TABLOID Act, so that we may pass this legislation.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_new_united_states/detail=factbook/id=452941

Midland County wrote:That factbook was pretty infuriating.

Hallo Island wrote:The Factbook is so pretty but oh man that's awful

If it ain't your cup of tea, don't drink it. :)

Pevvania wrote:Sure thing. Can you send me a little description of your party before I do so? Makes my job easier :) I should hand that factbook over to Internal Affairs, to be honest.

Why is Minerva no longer Manager of State?

He sort of threw a fit and left.

Description;

The Party for Open Governance, led by Kings Island, advocates the replacement of the current legislature with a single legislative assembly comprised of all citizens.

POG also advocates a separate judiciary and a greater focus on diplomacy, defense, and propoganda in foreign policy. For further advice or to join, contact Kings Island.

Vivat Libertatem!

(side note; party colors are silver and burgundy).

Pevvania wrote:Sure thing. Can you send me a little description of your party before I do so? Makes my job easier :) I should hand that factbook over to Internal Affairs, to be honest.

Why is Minerva no longer Manager of State?

We told you when it happened.

Minerva declared that he was making a fit, he disgraced the military, said he was the only reason it was successful, and left.

Assembled with Dot's Region Saver.
Written by Refuge Isle.