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Region: Libertatem
Well, the Board elections begin next Wednesday and end on Friday. I think I'll host the Pres election from the following Saturday to Sunday. You guys all cool with that.
AAAAAH! Forgot to leave a question mark!
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Sounds good!
I understand that this region has a hostile history with the UCR, care to join us is tearing down that region?
Um,You know that regions founder is active.
I know. I'm not going to invade at all as I had said before my plan is to destroy it , bring it to its knees.
Seems unlikely that region has stood for 1-3 years.
Trust me I have done this before.
Hmmm
I have as well, I have brought UCR down in the past as well, but the thing is it always comes back. For better and for worse.
Not if you literally whip the region of the face of nationstates.
Actually, we have a mixed history with UCR, and if I'm correct still hold a peace treaty with them. I'd advise you to talk with the president, manager of state, and the manager of the military affairs through telegrams. Just a suggestion.
Will do kind sir.
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First of all, we do not discuss any kind of military activity on the RMB. Anyone can see this. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they were planning a pre-emptive strike on us right now after seeing what's been posted.
Secondly, I personally see it as a region full of hypocrites, but they keep to themselves and don't have any imperialistic ambitions, or at least not yet. I don't think it would be worth the trouble raiding them, anyway.
Understood my apologize and thank you for your time and I hope that our two regions can be frends in the future.
Go away. We are busy.
You know what forget about the apology and any diplomatic relationships.
No, I mean. We are actually busy. With other matters.
Rather interesting character. It will be fun to watch this one unfold.
Hello
Greetings.
Anti-communist nice
Hey man whats up?
Not much
Only militarily. We have an open borders immigration policy.
Me either. Thanks for joining!
Saturday we are having a Presidential Debate between Pev and Hallo.
Send your questions to Humpheria.
Understandable, they can be communist but you will support there cause.
IMPORTANT - I've amended the COURT Act to include a clause on executive orders:
"The President may be granted the power to issue executive orders in times when it is deemed necessary beyond due process. An executive order may be repealed by a future President, by unanimous Board vote or by a successful legal challenge."
I don't think I like the expansion of executive orders.
I agree with Humpy
It would be intended to be used only in cases of Board inactivity or when due process is insufficient. And the Board could easily repeal a blatantly unlawful executive order.
Actually if anything this is a reduction of executive powers, as Article II of the Constitution specifically grants the Founder/President executive orders, but no way to rescind them. This amendment to the bill clearly codifies a way to repeal EOs.
Lol I was just literally about to say something similar.
But it's still there. I am a fan of executive fail-safes when necessary. But I don't want one that isn't.
I hadn't thought of that. But does it just limit rescinding them to court circumstances?
"An executive order may be repealed by a future President, by unanimous Board vote or by a successful legal challenge."
What is the Constitutional limit to Executive Orders? What if a President made an Order that Prolonged his Term and Ban Impeachment Illegal?
I think that executive orders should be temporary. Like an order is only valid for 24 hours. Orders should only be issued in emergencies past twenty fours hours isn't an emergency and the Board should vote whether to make an order permanent, or they can just let it expire. Thus preventing orders that shouldn't be made. Do I make sense, or is this just a bad idea.
This is unacceptable. This is legislation that is currently at vote. You can't just change the rules in the middle of the ball game!
As for the clause itself, I would consider voting in favor of it if it were its own legislation. Bear in mind that this gives the executive branch extra power that isn't entirely made up for by the check/balance alongside it; it seems like there is room for corruption with this addendum. This may require some serious debate before we go tacking this onto one of our laws; I'm not saying this to nitpick or criticize, but simply to encourage discussion and ensure we don't, you know, add ghost riders right in the middle of a vote.
I agree with you humpy, I read the Constitution and as i see it their is no Limit to the Powers of EOs.
As for the lack of legislation on the topic being a sign that this is a step in the right direction, I wouldn't necessarily agree; considering the vagueness of what executive orders entail, I'd think it would be easier to challenge an EO in court the way it is now rather than the way you're suggesting if the judge were to rule against it. Again, we need to discuss this topic on its own, not throw it out entirely.
Yeah. I think it should be a developing topic, that we should develop.
Last-minute amendments to a bill are a very real thing. It's how the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 - a gun deregulation bill - had a machine gun ban chucked in.
But you're right, this needs further discussion. I'll take out the amendment and then propose it in/as a separate bill.
The last minute would be one thing, but that's generally the minute before a vote starts, not ends.
I look forward to debating its contents. We certainly need a definitive policy on this, and one that will best serve the region.
On the charges of The Time Alliance, the Board has voted in favor of his ban from the region of Libertatem.
Seat One: Lack there of - Nay
Seat Three: Ronald Reagan and Rick Grimes - Nay
Seat Four: Miencraft - Yea
Seat Five: Godisdead - Yea
That tied the vote, so the Chairman voted in favor. The Time Alliance is henceforth banned from the region of Libertatem.
I will comply with the Board's wishes, although I recommend that the Board present the strong legal case against TTA here, for the sake of legitimacy.
I cannot ban him now as he's been away for too long, but if and when he returns I will ban him.
In the morning I will write a full deposition/inquiry/release. For now, I need to sleep.
Purge ads? Yes please. They are annoying
Please send no further messages to The Time Alliance concerning his ban. I do not know the other official who had sent him a telegram notifying him of such, but internal affairs are in my jurisdiction.
I like this amendment considering the vagueness of the original topic in the constitution, but is it legal to add stuff after people have already voted?
I would like to appolagize for my pointless arguements. Busy for the past few weeks, but now I am finaly liberated from my stress.
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In 7 hours. I motion to bring the VEEP Amendment to vote among the House.
Is the one in your factbook the final draft?
What do you want added?
I dislike the idea of the VP being re-approved after election. The people of the region would ideally elect a ticket. I see no point in having the VP elected again.
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oops. edited.
I only say that because if that law passed, the AG could come down on the law with an angry iron fist.
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HAHAHA
Ok, someone explain to me why we are banning TTA. All he did was voice an opinion that differed from yours. Yes, it was a particularly unsavory opinion, but shouldn't we all have free speech and the right to speak out against the government?
The Board was presented a case that had nothing to do with what he said, but rather the actions that he committed against the region. Mainly militarily, such as using a puppet to inform our enemies of our military actions. Whether you agree or not, he still committed a war crime. As a candidate for president, you should have a better ability to know what the subject is rather than assuming on matters of regional importance.
There is no law. He was saying that now that can happen.
Alright so I remained acquainted with TTA after everything happened. Are you going to ban me?
TTA was banned on two counts of treason.
And these treason charges were based on his actions at Communist Beach and on his leaks of sensitive military information to enemies.
I remember you pardoning him because you believed he wasn't guilty, sir.
I pardoned him because I wanted to put the matter behind us and a significant number of people did not want him charged. But in light of his recent actions, vagrant disrespect of the law and the military leaks, I decided to rescind the pardon.
Well, he wasn't guilty. He was fighting for what he believed.
So he's not guilty of attacking Libertatem troops because he attacked Libertatem troops for a good reason?
He fought against the region. He committed crimes against the good of the people. He compromised the integrity of this region because he didn't agree with the war. Rather than trying to change it. He committed treason and espionage. Do you support this kind of action? Can we expect you to pardon every war criminal because you feel for them. There is saying what you believe, and there is committing crimes against the region. Would you let these criminal continue to inhabit the region if your are elected?
He can do whatever he wants if it is what he believes, but there are consequences for attacking the region you want to live in. If he wanted to live here, he shouldn't have attacked the region. But he did, so he can't.
Why would you get banned for being acquaintances? Your not responsible for treason.
Having opinions that differ from yours doesn't make someone a war criminal, sir.
No, attacking Libertatem troops and divulging sensitive information to enemies in protest makes him a war criminal.
TTA was fighting for what was right. We can no longer attack innocent peaceful regions for no reason whatsoever, and if you don't understand this, then I must have overestimated your morals and ethics.
Regardless of your opinion, that wasn't a regional raid, He fought people that live in this region, and told our enemies of our plans. That, as it is, is treason. And stockless character attacks will not help you in any way. If anything, I overestimated, you. Insulting me because I disagree with you. Some president you'd make.
There is no need to bring up my campaign. I could pick out everything Pev does that isn't very President like, but I don't.
We're winning the war. In the past few months the NS Left has lost every one of its majors leaders - La Pas, Vippertooth, Proletaurus and V Ming are all gone in some way or another. We have to keep up the pressure. I will not bend to phoney standards of political correctness or ethics. This region was created to fight Communism, and that's what we're gonna do.
This is rather absurd . Campaigns should be based off records and statements so this is a perfect time to bring up your campaign. Likewise you should be presenting whatever flaws you believe to see in Pev's administration to bring it to the electorate's attention. That's kind of how elections work .
Why don't we fight regions that are actually oppressing people instead of just raiding tiny peaceful regions?
But, you do. You want to insult my character, I'll point out your campaign. Welcome to politics. You want to kick up nonexistent dirt. I'll argue politics.
We do both. There's a lot you don't know about many of the successes we've had in recent months. A lot.
And please name some of these tiny peaceful regions.
Communist Beach, Communist China, to name a few.
And why don't I know about these? Because they aren't at all publicized.
Communist Beach is a dictatorship that prohibits free speech, and Communist China is a member state of the so-called Regional Defence Committee, a Communist organisation that aided in the unjustified assault of Libertarians. They were hardly peaceful, and I stand by the attacks on them.
We have a coordinated military strategy. We don't yet have the strength and manpower to launch all-out assaults on 80-man Communist regions, so we attack smaller, but just as dangerous, regions for strategical benefit in the war. We have also mounted a series of successful infiltrations of very large Communist regions. The Communist Region, The True Communist Region and New Communist Region were all destroyed by the Libertatem Army.
I don't think you know enough about our war policies to justifiably comment.
That's Regional Defense* Committee.
[B]RE-ELECT 2014[/B]
Peace through Strength
Over the course of [nation=short]Pevvania[/nation]'s Presidency, we have seen turbulent times for the military. It has taken a long time, but our armed forces are finally strong and proud, as they should be, and ready to confront the threats we face abroad.
The War on Communism has seen a stunning chain of successes - first, we recruited a bar of fresh-faced recruits, willing and eager to take on totalitarianism. Then we got to work in cleaning up the bastions of tyranny and vassals of hate that serve the larger Communist regions of the world.
Next, La Pasionara's empire fell. We broke the back of The Internationale's anti-cap operations with the Invasion of Grenada, liberating many imprisoned under tyranny and keeping dozens of conservative regions safe for the future.
Our military strength was tested in February and March when we faced opposition to our tag raids on Communist Beach and Communist China. But both were successful, and proved to the NS Left that Reato is a force to be reckoned with.
Since my Presidency began, Libertatem and Reato have successfully conquered, invaded or destroyed more than [B]113[/B] totalitarian regions, and have saved and liberated dozens.
Meanwhile, the ACP/LOP/Anarcho-Queer/RLP/? candidate for President [nation=short]Hallo Island[/nation] has mounted increasingly critical attacks on our armed forces. Hallo Island's plan is to gut the military, gut the War on Communism and abandon a military strategy that has served us extremely well in the past six months.
Yet Representative Hallo has not served one single day in the armed forces.
[B]Is this the kind of person you want to serve as our Commander-in-Chief?[/B]
[B]RE-ELECT PEVVANIA - FOR LIBERTY, STRENGTH AND REPUBLICANISM.[/B]
We magically got above 100 nations again.
I'll go get the Wine of Hard Working Grape Farmers.
Oh, and some of that 'Tatem vodka.
The only plans I have for the military is to target larger regions. And if you actually knew what you were talking about, you would know that I am registered in the military and helped in the whole Federal Islands 2 schmagadoo.
We're already working to mount some infiltrations as it is, but it's a naive idea to assume that we could compete with some of the larger armies in direct combat.
OK, fair enough.
Hello all! I think this may be a good place but its so bloody unstable!
Welcome to Libertatem, Darpi! :) And what do you mean?
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