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Region: Libertatem
Housing prices always increase. Inflation is bad, unless it's for homeowners, or something.
Republic Of Minerva, Rateria
No one wants that. There isn't anything worth a war in this situation.
I wanna be nudest in Libertatem... :(
Teuberland
Christopher Cantwell is an insane, violent, right-wing xenophobe who does not belong in the liberty movement. He makes Adam Kokesh look like Ghandi.
Wtf I hate this suppression power. I meant to press quote :(
Anyways...
I thought you liked Kokesh?
I do. I'm a fan of Kokesh. Kokesh is someone who puts his libertarian beliefs into action in ways that many regard as 'extreme', i.e. by leading open carry marches, smoke-ins and so forth. He is a strong activist but also a peaceful one. Cantwell frequently wishes death upon left-wing activists, has said that he "wouldn't care" if a fascist dictatorship came to power in the US and has demanded that those who criticise him kill themselves.
Republic Of Minerva
"Smoke-ins?"
As in, smoking marijuana to protest drug laws.
You would need to mandate nudity for that to work. That or encourage your hippies.
Hello. My name is Empress Clair. A pleasure to meet you.
Read my Factbook. What do you think of our history?
Happy Liberturkey Day guys
Rateria, Condealism, Teuberland
Happy Thanksgiving, Libertatem!
Rateria, Condealism
It's called Black Friday and Cyber Monday you Commie.
Rateria, Condealism, The Aradites
I think that it's way too short.
Teuberland
Indeed. We must appease our corporate masters by celebrating Black Friday and Cyber Monday, followed by Capitalistmas all throughout the next month, in order to atone for our socialist practice of gift-giving. Happy Mallidays!
Miencraft, Rateria, Teuberland
Happy thanksgiving guys!!!!
Rateria, Teuberland
Boycott Black Friday and to hack with Cyber Monday! Down with Fascisto-Corporatism and their socially engineered societal comumeristic bread and circuses. Insist on good quality and well made products at a good and honest price all year round. Insist on a return to Free Markets for a Free People... ***done ranting***
Thank you, Dark Side. May you and yours be well. Happy Thanksgiving everyone. :)
Right-Winged Nation
Not sure if sarcasm or double sarcasm...
It's triple
Satire done well is indistinguishable.
Lain Iwakura
Happy Danksgiving. Please use your memes responsibly.
Rateria, Alpaki
For Thanksgiving, I thank my glorious European government for giving me free healthcare and no guns. We are safe, we are free, and America can burn in hell for being different. [Secular] Amen.
Parvimperia
sarcasm alert btw
Republic Of Minerva, Right-Winged Nation, Rateria, Parvimperia
I was definitely hovering my finger over the suppress button.
:] Happy Thanksgiving my Aussie friend, 'Merica.
...'Merica.
Pevvania, Rateria, Parvimperia
As a representative of Common Sense News, I'd like to invite Libertatem to view this weeks article, Why I Hate the NRA (And Why You Should Too). And no, it's not as liberally biased as the title makes it sound. Hopefully, at least. Anyways, if you like it, please construct an embassy with us to receive our articles weekly. Thank you, and Happy Thanksgiving!
http://tinyurl.com/cs112015
Calling it free really irks me more than it should.
Pevvania
Happy belated Thanksgiving, everyone.
Yay! My nation has more than 2 billion people!
Also, IT'S BLACK FRIDAY! STAY INDOORS IF YOU WANT TO LIVE!!!!!!!!!
Republic Of Minerva, Teuberland, Parvimperia, Temporary Nation I Am Region Searching
So I forgot to hold Miencraftic Presidential elections on Election Day and make a newspost about it then.
So now Miencraftic Election Day is on the same day as Thanksgiving. Because why not?
Rateria, Teuberland
At this rate, I'm mulling the idea of founding a campaign for the next election of a new party, the Mutualista Party which is effectively a branch for Mutuaiists an left libertarians who still believe in free market economies instead of the foot of the government tyrants.
Republic Of Minerva
I'm not a mutualist per say, but I have geolibertarian and some left-libertarian sympathies, so consider me a member.
The Serbian Empire
Greetings. Me again. I have one last question for y'all.
What is your opinion on David Cameron?
He's a statist.
Pevvania, Republic Of Minerva
I know what you mean. You actually pay the government for giving you healthcare. Btw i have never even heard the term "free healthcare" here in the commie wasteland (Europe). It seems to be an American thing.
So I take it you're not fond of him?
It's a common thing in America (and Canada) for words pertaining to freedom or liberty to be hijacked by the left. As seen with the word Liberalism, that completely changed meanings with Roosevelt.
Cameron? You mean that shrimp I got at a Mexican restaurant?
Pevvania, Republic Of Minerva, Rateria
So you're not fans of Cameron, I guess that's all I needed to know, I'll probably have a permanent nation in this region in the next day or two!
Oh come on, guys. Finding something and taking it has absolutely no foundation in libertarian ethics, and not to mention would immediately create a violence-based economy and a culture of fear. People would be afraid to leave their homes in permanent fear of home invasion, bringing world production to a halt.
I'd dare say that in the short term a mutualist society would be even more unsustainable and prone to cataclysm than a state socialist society. At least under state socialism the rules of ownership are clearly laid out. Such clarity does not exist under mutualism, where the market is governed by unorganised, irrational violence.
Some would say anything anarcho- would be unsustainable. Thus the best one can really do is a nightwatchman state.
What I'm saying is that even in theory mutualism is terrible. Let's assume that every ideology works out the way it is supposed to. Disregard any economic results of these systems. Under anarcho-capitalism, the NAP is the governing ethical code of society and private property is traded and acquired free from coercion. Under "anarcho"-communism, there are thousands of individual collectives and communes that communally own and distribute property and the means of production. Under anarcho-mutualism, property is based on use and if a factory is not frequently 'used' by its investors or managers, then whoever is in or near that building when it's unoccupied can take it for themselves.
Unlike "anarcho"-communism, which is far more grotesque and vile than mutualism, mutualism fails in theory because it literally allows people to use force and violence to take things purely because nobody is using them at the time. How could this not lead to endless violence even in the very beginning?
Joe Average: *calls free market defense agency*
Hello can you help me? I've gone out to loot some groceries from the store and my house has been invaded by bandits. My gun has already been stolen so I need help to evict them.
Defense Agency: That's A-OK, we're sending out a squad car now- oh, wait a minute, the socialists have taken over our offices. And since we were the only agency in the area I'm afraid you're pretty much f--ked. Sorry.
Free marketeer when convenient, statist when not.
Just another vote whore.
Scumbag Pevvania: https://i.imgflip.com/uvs89.jpg
Temporary Nation I Am Region Searching
only try it once, it won't hurt
What, mutualism or voting?
try communism just once, it won't hurt
So Pevvania, on a more serious note, how goes your foray into the Conservative Party? Regret it yet instead of a grassroots movement?
It seems at least, if LH is anything to go by, activity in the libertarian-o-sphere in the UK has piped up a bit, although it's probably nothing.
try cyanide once, it won't hurt
Miencraft, Rateria, Lain Iwakura, Parvimperia, Temporary Nation I Am Region Searching
Greetings, [nation=short]Temporary Nation I am region Searching[/nation] here. Can I please apply for citizenship?
Apologies, I just noticed the five day waiting time.
Haven't heard much for a while. I see my MP occasionally, but they're waiting for more people to express interest in the idea of a youth organisation before it's put into practice.
What grassroots movement? There is no unified liberty movement in the UK. Go to a pro-austerity rally - which I have been to - and you get jeers from passers-by about being a "right-wing idiot". Go to an anti-war rally, and you get people coming up to you saying "So how long have you been a member of the Socialist Party of Great Britain?"
The greatest opportunity for the birth of a new liberty movement since the election of Cameron was perhaps the rise of UKIP circa 2013-14, but then Farage's lust for power and desire to appeal to Labour voters meant that any chance of the party holding on to its libertarian-ish views was flushed down the drain. Boris Johnson is a self-proclaimed libertarian, and if I were a betting man I'd say that he'll win the Tory leadership in 2020, and he is a self-proclaimed libertarian. But many Brits are searching for an anti-establishment candidate, and for all his charisma and wit, I don't know if he'll be able to cast himself as a political outsider in the way that Corbyn has.
If, on his last day of office, President Obama pardoned every single non-violent drug offender in America, would this be enough to significantly shift your opinion of his presidency?
what the fvck do you mean there is no grassroots movement. then get out there are fvcking make one. you have the internet. you have connections. your only restriction is your own laziness. Get like minded pool, pool money, and JUST DO IT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXsQAXx_ao0
Pevvania, Rateria
*like minded people
Post self-deleted by Republic Of Minerva.
My only restriction is that I'm an actor and it's a little hard getting a job in the industry when the unions you're expected to grovel to find your rantings online about abolishing the NHS.
Also, where did Boris Johnson say he was a libertarian?
Bill Maher also calls himself libertarian, but it's obvious he's not "libertarian." Although one of the better liberals, I'll give him that.
Which constituency are you from? I wouldn't mind joining such an organisation myself, Labour already have their own youth league, heck, I've been asked to join multiple times (I'd sooner die).
Boris Johnson has been one of the best London Mayors I've lived under, he's offered under-16's free travel, he single handedly organised the back work of the London Olympics, and he's just an all round nice guy. I do hope he wins the conservative leadership race. May I ask, what is your opinion on Zac Goldsmith, the Conservative nominee for the London Mayoral election 2016?
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=361884
get in there and fight for Reagan.
All hope is not lost. A radical libertarian once lived in Britain, one even more so than his mentor Herbert Spencer, upheld the idea of natural rights and individual liberty in a time when there was attack on every aspect of life by the state. His name was Auberon Herbert.
http://fee.org/freeman/a-radical-libertarian-in-the-british-parliament/
No. Even if I agreed with his policies I would not like him or his presidency as I find him as a person rather insulting.
You can only be insulted, lied to, and attacked by someone so many times before you begin to dislike them as a person, not just because of their political stances.
I see your point on the utility aspect of the matter.
Why do people clap when the plane lands? The pilot can't hear you.
No idea. The people must be happy that they didn't crash from 30,000 feet above.
Rateria, Teuberland, Alpaki, Nlbc
I've never done or seen this, and I've been on many planes.
Rateria, Alpaki
Then again, I usually ride with the luggage.
Rateria, Parvimperia, Alpaki, Nlbc
Somehow I get the impression we don't have enough active nations to sustain a government of this size.
Humpheria, Teuberland, Alpaki
*nods head in agreement while chugging another gallon of coffee trying to figure out how to juggle so many things*
This is a good time to make a public directive to two particular individuals that a solid draft of the Free-Movement Treaty must be distributed to our allies in one weeks time.
I will also, coincidentally, be writing a proposed amendment about the current state of government today. It will be very libertarian and small gubment, trust me.
Rateria, Alpaki
Not sure exactly how Pev intended to play it, but I'm pretty sure the idea was to have a meeting in a neutral location like Cashnatchee where we, and those we invite to help us form the treaty, would discuss the terms therein and come up with a solid draft together.
I'm thinking of founding my own capitalist region. Two days time I get my monthly "pocket-money", some of which I could use for TG stamps. I'm not too sure, would you guys back me in my decision?
And you are?
Nah it's totally free...
...until you look at your tax rate
Countries like Denmark have a 60% income tax! How do you live with that?
Then a meeting will be set up a week from now.
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=humpheria/detail=factbook/id=525775
Government Reform and Resizing Amendment
I hate flying, every time I land I feel like I could clap, lol.
My scariest experiences have both been at Toronto Airport. The first time, we were going in for a landing, but another plane was still on the runway for some reason, so the plane pulled up so quickly, I thought we were going to crash into the plane on the runway. We pulled up at the last second.
The second time, on my journey back home, flying in to Toronto, the plane randomly dropped, plummeting at least 10,000 feet in a matter of seconds. Everything was weightless.
Needless to say, I'm never flying to Toronto again, lol.
Teuberland
A merger between my department and Internal Affairs, eh?
Sweet - if this passes, I'll be able to retire.
No, it's "who the hell are you'.
Attention: You're all invited to use the Ffs Libertatem Iru Cafe for deliberation on the Free Movement Treaty, a piece of interregional legislation that, once created, will enable citizens of signatory regions to easily obtain citizenship in any other signatory region. The official meeting is expected to occur less than a week from now, but discussion before then is welcomed. If you have any specific questions, either place them on the Cafe's RMB or send them to either discussion organizer [nation=short]Conservative Idealism[/nation] or lead writer [nation=short]Pevvania[/nation].
I've just sent invitations for the Free Movement Treaty deliberation to eight regions, and I'm trying to decide where and how else to spread the word.
Humpheria
Don't everybody chime in at once
Thank you Con, I was just about to ask you to do that. I'll get on top of it this week.
Condealism
I'm uncomfortable with the idea of merging what are essentially Internal and External Affairs. What's your rationale for this, Mr. President?
Rateria
Can I point out that the same thing was presented before and was shot down?
Yeah, I remember that.
Government = Big
Population active in politics = Small
So do I, but it was just a novel idea then and not a necessity.
It's always been my belief as well that the government should be small in comparison to the rest of the region, and I definitely like the rest of the proposal. But I don't see what merging those two cherished, long-standing positions would do for the region.
How many nations hold deputy positions only?
Anybody who wants to see me kicking some socialist ass, or maybe even join in, check out the Reagan thread: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=361884
My forum nation is Lerodan Chinamerica.
As far as I know only Minerva. I don't think he is interested in office.
Republic Of Minerva
Regardless, those don't seem like the best departments to merge. Internal and State take two totally different skillsets.
That's pretty much why I had all my managers do whatever they wanted while I was briefly President. I didn't know how to manage diplomacy; I didn't know how to manage the military; all I've ever known is Internal. Honestly I'm not surprised a diplomat came after me.
If we really need to merge anything, and I don't think we do, State and War would probably be better, but even then there's probably a big skill difference.
Rateria, Condealism
Ideally War would be merged into both Internal and State - Internal would enlist and handle the military's members, State would assess and recruit the military's allies - but that would require the only command-related things this region-renowned-for-war still lacks: Cooperation among the military's officers and strict adherence to a chain of command.
If possible, however, and if we had enough citizens dedicated to the War... it might be the best option in the long run, despite being the most difficult to set up initially.
*If having those were possible
Huh.
That sounds like it could work. Just gotta whip out the ol' paddlin' stick.
(Yes, that's a paddlin')
Well, those on my Cabinet or those who have been on my Cabinet can attest that I always start off by giving them free reign over their respective fields. The difference is accounted for in the special deputy clause. It allows for help in specific areas without mandating that we stretch our population any more.
Alpaki
I'm only interested in crushing my enemies, seeing them driven before me, and hearing the lamentations of their spouses.
Desk work is not for me.
Pevvania, Rateria, Teuberland, Lain Iwakura, Parvimperia, Alpaki
Agreed.
I wonder why the people of the region aren't active in its politics (excluding those who are, of course). Is there anything that I can do to help?
Run for the board, or any other government office during election time.
Maybe some of us have no earthly idea how the political system is organized, and are just along for the ride.
Darn, Minovdigon isn't the most authoritarian.
Gotta work on that.
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Republic Of Minerva, Rateria
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