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My sockpuppet has completed research of this region. So that I do not unfairly sway Libertatem's politics, I'm moving it to my new dummy region.

IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

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The 56 signatures on the Declaration appear in the positions indicated:

Column 1

Georgia:

Button Gwinnett

Lyman Hall

George Walton

Column 2

North Carolina:

William Hooper

Joseph Hewes

John Penn

South Carolina:

Edward Rutledge

Thomas Heyward, Jr.

Thomas Lynch, Jr.

Arthur Middleton

Column 3

Massachusetts:

John Hancock

Maryland:

Samuel Chase

William Paca

Thomas Stone

Charles Carroll of Carrollton

Virginia:

George Wythe

Richard Henry Lee

Thomas Jefferson

Benjamin Harrison

Thomas Nelson, Jr.

Francis Lightfoot Lee

Carter Braxton

Column 4

Pennsylvania:

Robert Morris

Benjamin Rush

Benjamin Franklin

John Morton

George Clymer

James Smith

George Taylor

James Wilson

George Ross

Delaware:

Caesar Rodney

George Read

Thomas McKean

Column 5

New York:

William Floyd

Philip Livingston

Francis Lewis

Lewis Morris

New Jersey:

Richard Stockton

John Witherspoon

Francis Hopkinson

John Hart

Abraham Clark

Column 6

New Hampshire:

Josiah Bartlett

William Whipple

Massachusetts:

Samuel Adams

John Adams

Robert Treat Paine

Elbridge Gerry

Rhode Island:

Stephen Hopkins

William Ellery

Connecticut:

Roger Sherman

Samuel Huntington

William Williams

Oliver Wolcott

New Hampshire:

Matthew Thornton

The declaration of independence truly takes one's breath away.

Oh hey, welcome Texacoe!

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"Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence." - Richard Dawkins

Snabagag, Nobody told you to say anything!

3 In the day when the keepers of the house shall tremble, and the strong men shall bow themselves, and the grinders cease because they are few, and those that look out of the windows be darkened,

PRAISE THE LORD!

HE WILL COME!

i just had a heck of a religious moment.

You are right, no one told me to do so. I did however. Does that surprise you?

Alright I might not be the boss or anything but you all seriously need to cut it out with this religious prosecution on Snabagag. I don't support atheists I'm actually a devout Baptist but I wont standby and let someone be insulted based on his beliefs. How would you all like it if you were attacked for believing in God? Theres a little something called common-sense and respect that some of us have forgotten.

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Abatael you need to have enough maturity to end it! Nowhere does it justify to attack your fellow region members for this long!

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Im Christian and not afraid to scream it.

No you and Einsiev get on here constantly and attack ( and by attack I basically mean insult ) him for being an atheist. I believe if you were truely knowledgable on religion and faith you would understand that God is the ultimate judge not us, and that it's not our place to judge others.

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I am Knowledgeable. Ill show you knowledgable Dumba**

Every day! You post these long paragraphs on religion, which has sparked ever since you found out Snabagag is an atheist, and then Einsiev takes that and attacks Snabagag and it's rude and needs to stop!

Also Einsiev, cussing only proves your inability to cary on a logical conversation and it proves your miniscule amount of respect.

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ya answer us that question

''Yeah, Snabagag, you Godless liberal! Everyone should withdraw their WA endorsements from him. Because do you want this Godless, heretical, despotic liberal (perhaps even Communist) in charge?''

Phew. I'm always learning about myself. Now I'm apparently a godless, heretical and despotic liberal (AND EVEN COMMUNIST GUYS! YOU HEAR THAT!). Liberosia better banject me immediately.

i have respect. just dont insult christians.

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See, that's a problem. You take it as a personal insult when I state facts. That's a problem that lies with you, because I will most certainly not censor myself to comfort your ignorance of facts. I don't care what you think about them, they are facts.

See, now you insulted me again, Abatael. Amazing.

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Well Abatael clearly doesn't have an ounce of respect. How is Snabagag a despot? How is he heretical? Like I said it's not out place to judge him that is God's place. Go read the Bible and figure that out.

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We never mentioned those two theories Abatael, quit pulling crap out of the blue.

I'm not offended, Snabagag might be but I'm not. I have respect for my fellow region members unlike you. Regardless of their beliefs I will not judge them.

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1. "A scientific theory is "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment."[1][2] Scientists create scientific theories from hypotheses that have been corroborated through the scientific method, then gather evidence to test their accuracy. As with all forms of scientific knowledge, scientific theories are inductive in nature and do not make apodictic propositions; instead, they aim for predictive and explanatory force.[3][4]"

See? A hypothesis is an idea, a theory is a confirmed hypothesis.

2. I'm not going to answer your ridiculous claims, anyone who wants to know can easily find out just how wrong they are.

EJECT HIM!!!!

Snabagag, you are a hipocrit. You insult everyone. Abatael just wanted to share something he belived in. But its apparantly illegal to now.

I dont belive in that Science BS!!!!!!

her·e·tic/ˈherətik/

Noun:

1.A person believing in or practicing religious heresy.

2.A person holding an opinion at odds with what is generally accepted

Well Abatael this is a free region and even though we lean to the right most of the time we allow people of different beliefs to enjoy their freedom. Remember that before you go around insulting people.

Im done listening to you tear us down. Eject him

I simply uphold equality, liberty, and respect. It is you two who tear us down by insulting our region members and seperating us on issues.

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Rethink that ok. You have no respect.

I'd also like to point out that I banjected Abatael because he's fascist and I considered that not to be in accordance with the principles this region stands for, as I've explained multiple times before.

ISA, you deserve a medal for upholding your principles no matter what. It exhibits great maturity to respect those who you do not agree with in religion.

ISA, you need to.

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Here we go again FASCISIM FASCISIM FASCISIM. You now what. Im proud to be Fascist.

First Christians now Fascists. REALLY????!!!!

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I was reading where people said if you go so far right on the political spectrum then your a fascist; but fascism is a statist government controlled by a dictator so fascism shouldn't even be a variable on the U.S political spectrum because conservatives,moderates, and maybe even a few liberals want to uphold liberty and individuality

Right and left is defined by the size of government. Fascists want a big government and therefore they are not right-wing, saying so is an oxymoron.

Hey guys, im Valecia, a friend of abatael and timmy city. here is a little about myself:

I am a parliamentary democracy and constitutional monarchy

There are three parties in my nation: Progressive(Centre), Social Democratic(Centre Left) and Conservative(Centre right)

Our main manufacturing industry is electronics and heavy industry

We have rich gas and oil reserves

You know what? Im moving.

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Like I've said it's not my place, or anyone elses, to judge someone based on their preferences, and thats because God is the ultimate judge not I.

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But the thing is that you are being rude! Atheism is believing there is no god and the christian dogma does not define anything. I don't know what you are doing in Libertatem if you have no respect for people of another religion than yourself, because if we lack such respect, we will perish in endless religious war. A government has absolutely no right to define right or wrong in religion, there is no right or wrong in religion, it's only simple faith. Being an atheist is not having simple faith. Scientific literacy usually comes before atheism, so let people judge what that means.

You openly call Snabagag a heretic and can you fess up for this quote? ''Yeah, Snabagag, you Godless liberal! Everyone should withdraw their WA endorsements from him. Because do you want this Godless, heretical, despotic liberal (perhaps even Communist) in charge?''

Your ignorance and incompatance to see the reality of the damage you have done is astounding.

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I'm sorry you don't know when you've lost a debate.

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Someone does care, God. I say he is the ultimate judge and yet you say, "There's you spouting your beliefs about how we shouldn't judge others as if somebody cares." is God not someone to a self-proclaimed religious advicate?

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Doing what? Winning this debate?

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He is not trying to win this debate, just to prove Snabagag is wrong about his belifs but not mainly to win

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Yes he can shut up Idiot

His arent. Yours areISA

In this region nobody is wrong considering we're a free region that upholds individual liberty. I don't agree with athiesm but it's not my place to sell someone their beliefs are wrong.

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Alak-Kazanistahn, please show your fellow nations an ounce of respect.

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As I said, childish rudeness will not be tolerated here.

Im sorry i kinda lost it.

I apologize for my rudnesss.

Snabagag, Liberosia. I hereby resign my position as Manager of Military Affairs, to take up a similar position over in the Federal Islands. Cannot stand the lunacy and oppression any longer. Terribly sorry- Brauistan

Thank you, Alak-Kazanistahn. Welcome to Libertatem.

Brauistan, I'm sorry to see you go. Godspeed you.

...I missed something again.

I will leave too. I have caused enough trouble.

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I caused one Nation to leave. I dont want to risk another.

أنني اعتذر بصدق

What? What is this?!?! Why has this happened?

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Why did y'all keep discussing religion on the RMB?!

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I just read back a ways...why did not one of y'all act like a gentleman and concede in the name of regional peace?

I felt it neccisary to demand respect for my fellow region members and uphold individual liberty.

Alright, I've read through the conflict.

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It seems to me that our region is once again divided because of ideological conflict.

This is to be expected; we are a motley crew of nations that seek the end of communist terror, and do not all share the same beliefs aside from a hatred of far leftist philosophy.

We must not embrace our differences, nor attack anyone for seeming too communist. A third Red Scare is not yet necessary; instead, we must respect other nations.

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Written by Refuge Isle.