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Venomringo wrote:the relevancy of NATO

Never heard of it.

Post by Highway Eighty-Eight suppressed by a moderator.

Venomringo wrote:Let me hear your opinions on the relevancy of NATO in today's geopolitical landscape

What opinions are there to hear? The United States presently encourages dubiety to diplomacy; treaties and organizations of any kind struggle to maintain any sort of relevancy on even an objective level in the face of the unreliability of this world power's current administration.

All international organizations should be abolished. NATO, the UN, the EU, ect.

Skaveria wrote:All international organizations should be abolished. NATO, the UN, the EU, ect.

What about the WTO?

Happy Presidents’ Day to Pevvania, Miencraft, Venom, myself, and Aradites.

Pevvania, Narland, Rateria, Venomringo, Highway Eighty-Eight

Humpheria wrote:Happy Presidents’ Day to Pevvania, Miencraft, Venom, myself, and Aradites.

Big F for Condealism.

Rateria, Jadentopian Order, Highway Eighty-Eight

The United States Of Patriots wrote:What about the WTO?

That two, trade partners don't need a third party regulating them.

Narland

Humpheria wrote:Happy Presidents’ Day to Pevvania, Miencraft, Venom, myself, and Aradites.

Miencraft wrote:Big F for Condealism.

+ Muh Roads (PBUH), Minerva, and Highway Eight

Miencraft, Narland, Republic Of Minerva, Muh Roads, Rateria

The New Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:"Danish is more original than Icelandic"

íslendsku er gej

Eg elski føroyskt (færoyska? føroyskur? idk how to adjective) málurin <3

The New United States wrote:+ Muh Roads (PBUH), Minerva, and Highway Eight

My presidency was admittedly quiet, but that is how it should be in a truly libertarian regime.

Miencraft, The New United States, Rateria, Jadentopian Order

"Encourages member nations to prohibit the sale of tobacco products and electronic cigarettes to minors;"

They want to take away our kids' smokes! I encourage everyone to vote against this abominable legislation.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=ga

Republic Of Minerva

Republic Of Minerva wrote:My presidency was admittedly quiet, but that is how it should be in a truly libertarian regime.

Silent Cal was the best President of the 20th century for that exact reason.

Republic Of Minerva, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

The New United States wrote:Silent Cal was the best President of the 20th century for that exact reason.

Certainly the most underrated president.

Miencraft, Narland, The New United States, Rateria

Post by Highway Eighty-Eight suppressed by a moderator.

This new security council proposal is obviously written by a leftie to make right-wingers look bad.

It's almost comically poorly written... Almost like it's written poorly on purpose...

The nation that proposed it has 8 million citizens so it's VERY NEW...

and they're in an ACTUAL NAZI region...

Come on Jussie, get off NS...

Pevvania

Skaveria wrote:This new security council proposal is obviously written by a leftie to make right-wingers look bad.

It's almost comically poorly written... Almost like it's written poorly on purpose...

The nation that proposed it has 8 million citizens so it's VERY NEW...

and they're in an ACTUAL NAZI region...

Come on Jussie, get off NS...

Eww World Assembly

"But, Drumpf is a backwards homophobe!"

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-administration-pushes-end-to-worldwide-criminalization-of-homosexuality

The New Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:"Danish is more original than Icelandic"

Danish is how bvikin sound it most tru

Suedsprechline wrote:Danish is how bvikin sound it most tru

It's French lite

So apparently many of the members of my College Republican chapter are anti-free trade. I'm presenting an argument as to why free trade is a great thing for all.

Give me some studies/reasons/evidence I can use for my argument if anyone has anything!

Rateria

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Pevvania wrote:So apparently many of the members of my College Republican chapter are anti-free trade. I'm presenting an argument as to why free trade is a great thing for all.

Give me some studies/reasons/evidence I can use for my argument if anyone has anything!

Tell them that protectionism undermines the benefits of deregulation. It doesn't matter if your workforce is competitive if they're not competing.

Pevvania, Rateria

Pevvania wrote:So apparently many of the members of my College Republican chapter are anti-free trade. I'm presenting an argument as to why free trade is a great thing for all.

Give me some studies/reasons/evidence I can use for my argument if anyone has anything!

https://www.nber.org/papers/w6707

http://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/tpa-036.pdf

https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/free-trade-nationalism

https://smallbusiness.chron.com/pros-trade-3827.html

http://www.uschamber.com/sites/default/files/reports/100514_ftajobs_full_0.pdf

http://www.capitalisminstitute.org/does-free-trade-hurt-developing-economies/

Pevvania, Narland, Rateria

Pevvania wrote:So apparently many of the members of my College Republican chapter are anti-free trade. I'm presenting an argument as to why free trade is a great thing for all.

Give me some studies/reasons/evidence I can use for my argument if anyone has anything!

Also, if they're only promoting protectionism because they're on the Trump train, remind them that Trump is way more free trade than people give him credit for. All his tariffs have been in retaliation to other tariffs.

Narland

Dem field looking like it could be Kamala Harris vs Bernie.

So just younger Hillary vs Bernie again

The New United States, Rateria

Jadentopian Order wrote:Dem field looking like it could be Kamala Harris vs Bernie.

So just younger Hillary vs Bernie again

I predict Bernie will take the nomination. Trump vs Bernie will be great and I'm going to thoroughly enjoy it. I hope we'll get a libertarian in the debates as well. Missed the boat last time, but maybe this time.

Rateria

The 2020 Election is honestly going to be so interesting with who decides to run against Trump on the Republican side and who gets the Democratic nomination

Rateria

Venomringo wrote:The 2020 Election is honestly going to be so interesting with who decides to run against Trump on the Republican side and who gets the Democratic nomination

I don't think he's gonna be primaried

Pevvania, The New United States, Rateria, Venomringo

Skaveria wrote:I don't think he's gonna be primaried

He's definitely going to run...He is Donald Trump after all

Pevvania, Rateria

Jadentopian Order wrote:I can agree to some point, the system truly is horrible in the US. Doctors will literally run random tests on you that do absolutely nothing besides drive up your cost. Healthcare is probably the only issue where I lean decently left, but I still don't really have a solid opinion.

Read this, Jaden - https://mises.org/wire/fix-healthcare-we-need-repeal-lot-more-obamacare

Rateria

Humpheria wrote:Happy Presidents’ Day to Pevvania, Miencraft, Venom, myself, and Aradites.

WTF man.

The New United States wrote:+ Muh Roads (PBUH), Minerva, and Highway Eight

My man.

Pevvania, The New United States, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Highway Eighty-Eight

New poll in Zentari! Come and vote!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=138022

The New United States, Rateria

Been pretty quiet these last few days

The New United States, Rateria

Pevvania wrote:Read this, Jaden - https://mises.org/wire/fix-healthcare-we-need-repeal-lot-more-obamacare

Cheeky Nandos?

Pevvania

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:I should point out that the oldest law codes had a big focus on the medical profession.

"If a physician removes operates to remove a tumor, and the patient dies, the physician should be put to death." Or something like that.

Yes, I do not dispute that. The prohibition of malpractice is the jurisdiction of government. Doctors who poison/kill their patients (as a practice) need to be stopped.

Western Civ. grew to recognize that someone with a Doctorate in the physical sciences in the practice of medicine (hence Physician) somehow knew more about that practice of medicine than the potentates and their lawyers (lawmakers) who didn't. Only the most power-happy despots of Western Civ even dared to mete heavily upon Physicians without their consent, and that they, Doctors if found such statecraft stifling were best able to leave that jurisdiction than others and to better places, some even to the enemies court. Since the rise modern era (15th Century) it was generally recognized that bad statecraft drove away good doctors. Statists of the 20th and 21st Centuries are loathe to recognize this.

Historically, the more capably aware and better educated generally escaped the following calamity of bad governance first, a mild example of late, the failure of British experiments in Socialism that caused the "Great Brain Drain" in GB from the 50s through today where the best doctors who would rather practice freely away from bureaucratic tyranny, monstrous paperwork, and mandated outcomes had the better chance of escaping than a mediocre physician who is stuck jumping through the hoops of the dog and pony show that is the NHS.

Even today should I in the unlikely event of being back in England would rather be flown to a Bavarian physician in free (free as in freedom not as in unfree Socialist "healthcare") private practice, a Military Base to be treated by an American doctor, or Haifa to the next physician available than have to suffer from bureaucracy pretending to be medical care -- no offense to the few good doctors in NHS whose talents are diminished by the tyranny they must endure. Many of the best doctors do tend to find their way to private practice away from burdensome paperwork of Statism within or without their country.

The atrocity of Statists is that they dare to tyrannize a class of people to enslavement in the name of "universal healthcare" as if a commodity (professionally provided service and care) could ever be anything other in any possible world. The hubris that their good intentions can but only have excellent outcomes is delusional in the least. That states (both in US sense and British sense) would even mandate set prescription for X prognoses regardless is madness. That they would interfere in the sacred obligation of the doctor-patient relationship is lawless and criminal mal en se. That people in power cannot see how ineptly evil their ideas are (evil is that which causes harm) is sobering.

But my basic point is throughout history good doctors have had the best means of finding a patron or a practice away from the worst governance. They have had the benefits of being wanted by the highest bidder regardless of country. They historically have been left to be (relatively) free govern themselves in distinction to the remainder of the hoi polloi who (relatively) have not.

The New United States

The United States Of Patriots wrote:What about the WTO?

especially the WTO.

Skaveria wrote:I don't think he's gonna be primaried

Trump currently has a 93% approval rating among self-identified GOP Republicans according to CPAC. He could shoot somebody and probably still have a 93%. It might even go up a point or two for exercising the 2nd Amendment.

Pevvania, The New United States

Trump's escalating attacks on socialism and the increasingly radical leftism of the Democratic Party is a winning message for his 2020 reelection campaign. The Dems' shift to the left is playing right into his hands; hopefully they'll nominate a candidate that espouses all of those crazy positions (Medicare-for-All, Green New Deal, abolish ICE, etc). Demonizing the opponent as a radical leftist worked wonders for Nixon and Reagan in their '72 and '84 re-election victories, and in many other election cycles too. Of course, this will be much more difficult if the Democrats nominate an establishment centrist, but I'm confident there are enough millennial and SJW loonies to tilt the party to the far left.

Mondale 2020!

Miencraft, Narland, The New United States

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:I don't pray for more stupidity. Radicalism is bad for everyone, and so no, I have no desire for the Democrats to nominate a someone form their further left-wing, just as I would rather not have someone like the current president in office.

A short term lurch to the left for the Democratic Party will probably be good for America in the long run. If that happens and history follows past patterns, they'll lose disastrously, do some soul-searching and hopefully come back to the center to be more appealing to the electorate. We saw this in 72 with Nixon, 80-88 with Reagan-Bush, and with Thatcher in the UK.

Remember that many of the suburban voters turned off by Trump that flipped the House in the midterms voted for self-proclaimed moderates and centrists, many of whom do not endorse the 'progressive' ideas of others in the party. I personally think the constituency for late term abortion, socialized healthcare and a 10-year dismantling of the US economy is very limited in national general elections.

The New United States

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:I would rather not have someone like the current president in office.

Sorry, but he's the best you're going to get until at least 2024. I know you're not very fond of conservatism or the GOP in general, but I think if we're getting net gains for liberty - which I believe we are - voting for Trump is the rational choice. Voting for the inevitable Libertarian candidate in the coming election would be a waste of time (though it would've been totally reasonable in any other presidential election 92-2012).

The New United States

Just strolled past an office on campus that had a yellow-black flag with the caption "Good ideas don't require force." Not all humanities professors are NPCs!

Pevvania, Republic Of Minerva, Muh Roads, Rateria, Skaveria

Pevvania wrote:Trump's escalating attacks on socialism and the increasingly radical leftism of the Democratic Party is a winning message for his 2020 reelection campaign. The Dems' shift to the left is playing right into his hands; hopefully they'll nominate a candidate that espouses all of those crazy positions (Medicare-for-All, Green New Deal, abolish ICE, etc). Demonizing the opponent as a radical leftist worked wonders for Nixon and Reagan in their '72 and '84 re-election victories, and in many other election cycles too. Of course, this will be much more difficult if the Democrats nominate an establishment centrist, but I'm confident there are enough millennial and SJW loonies to tilt the party to the far left.

Mondale 2020!

I absolutely agree, that's why I believe Trump will Crush any of the Democratic Candidates in a general election, except for two. the First is obviously Biden. Biden is a blue collar democrat and not a progressive. That will hamper Trump's ability to bash him as a socialist and bring the blue collar vote into play, which Trump used to win the rustbelt and ultimately the election. The second candidate is Bernie Sanders, and hear me out. Now, Bernie is much more radical than anyone else running, but Bernie's appeal is as a populist. Trump isn't really a conservative, he's also a populist. The republicans controlled the white house, senate, and the house and the only thing they did was cut taxes and remove the individual mandate. Also, Brett Kavanaugh was criticized by people on the right for not having a strong enough Pro-life stance. And in the last State of the Union address Trump said he wanted paid family leave. Trump is clearly a populist, and that's what helped him win the 2016 primary. We must also note that a number of Bernie Sanders Supporters voted for Trump over Hillary because they wanted an outsider. Now, I don't mention that to suggest that these voters switching back to Bernie will switch the election, but rather to illustrate the populist, outsider appeal that both Bernie and Trump have. Now, of course with Bernie Trump will be able to fight socialism as part of his campaign (Which is a winning subject), however Bernie still has an advantage over all the other democrats (Besides Biden) because Bernie portrays his message better than the rest. Look throughout history and You'll see a common theme in election: The candidate with the message wins. Everyone knows Trump's message, how many people knew Hillary's? McCain's? Now Apply this to the Primary, What is Kamala Harris' message? Racism is still rampant? Bernie has this advantage, and it doesn't guarantee Bernie the election, but everyone else's lack of it that Guarantees Trump Wins.

Pevvania, The New United States

Nice stealth edit on the flag to who ever did it

The New United States, Rateria, Highway Eighty-Eight

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:I was beginning to think nobody would say anything.

I complained about this a long time ago

The United States Of Patriots wrote:Nice stealth edit on the flag to who ever did it

didnt notice it until it was mentioned. While I like the Liberty Bell flag, I would like to see an interdictory circle (red circled backslash on white) with a black fasces, swastika, and black Hammer und Sichel aligned behind the slash on a black and yellow Libertarian banner sometimes flown and rotated with other flags.

The New United States

Read the LCRUA's newspaper, the fifth edition of the Regional Community News. The largest version yet.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1176320

The New Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:I complained about this a long time ago

I don't see why you would. It's genius

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:It's been like that for at least a month. Can't remember when. Maybe January.

I wonder what else could be stealth edited?

The New United States, Rateria

Joseph Stalin: Bloodthirsty dictator or misunderstood and marginalized woman of color?

https://babylonbee.com/news/joseph-stalin-posthumously-identifies-as-strong-woman-of-color-to-deflect-criticism-of-socialist-policies?fbclid=IwAR1ETDULSNZvFxlLyE_0zihjjZHCBXkk4Uo3yGs767Y8wgxAlaIcTeVjHfQ

Rateria

In other news, the ex-Prime Minister of Sweden hilariously blasted Bernie Sanders recently for his socialist views. Maybe Sanders will quit citing some of the most economically free countries in the world (Scandinavia) as the models of "democratic socialism"? Probably not.

https://mobile.twitter.com/carlbildt/status/1100039769810235393

https://mises.org/power-market/swedish-ex-prime-minister-rebukes-bernie-socialism-only-destroys?fbclid=IwAR3vnD89Y50I_6yyHA7hIk9mHGwJu7geocyPi2Db9GTlSMFbUF8Q_nD_nUU

Pevvania, Kumquat Cove, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

Socialist blonde bimbo in my poli sci class: "Ben Shapiro is, like, not smart at all"

ok hun

The New United States, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Skaveria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

The New United States wrote:In other news, the ex-Prime Minister of Sweden hilariously blasted Bernie Sanders recently for his socialist views. Maybe Sanders will quit citing some of the most economically free countries in the world (Scandinavia) as the models of "democratic socialism"? Probably not.

https://mobile.twitter.com/carlbildt/status/1100039769810235393

https://mises.org/power-market/swedish-ex-prime-minister-rebukes-bernie-socialism-only-destroys?fbclid=IwAR3vnD89Y50I_6yyHA7hIk9mHGwJu7geocyPi2Db9GTlSMFbUF8Q_nD_nUU

They really don't get it. And they also don't know how the economies of Scandinavia crashed in the early 90s because of their profligate spending. They were forced to reform, with Sweden cutting its government spending as a percentage of GDP from 70% to 50%.

The New United States, Rateria

I haven't read any Mises, Hayek, Rothbard or Hazlitt in a long time, but seeing that 'socialist' ideas are becoming popular again I want to get back into it and brush up on my free market economics. The amount of economically illiterate people I go to school with is staggering.

Narland, The New United States, Rateria, Skaveria

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:The United States Of Patriots or anyone else, have your constitution proposals done?

Nope, I've been pretty busy recently

The New United States

Pevvania wrote:Socialist blonde bimbo in my poli sci class: "Ben Shapiro is, like, not smart at all"

ok hun

Sounds hot.

Miencraft, Pevvania, The New United States, Rateria, Skaveria, Jadentopian Order

Muh Roads wrote:Sounds hot.

She is. There isn't much going on upstairs, though.

The New United States, Muh Roads, Rateria

Pevvania wrote:She is. There isn't much going on upstairs, though.

Maybe if you read her a random page of Human Action, she'll be impressed by all the big words and become a libertarian.

I mean, giving big, hard words to dimwits is how the radical, socialist, SJW academy has converted so many college students to their nonsensical crap.

Miencraft, Pevvania, Narland, Muh Roads, Rateria, Skaveria

The New United States wrote:....

I mean, giving big, hard words to dimwits ....

*Slow jazz starts playing*

The New United States, Muh Roads

The United States Of Patriots wrote:*Slow jazz starts playing*

Duke Silver? Is that you?

Muh Roads, The United States Of Patriots, Jadentopian Order

Pevvania wrote:She is. There isn't much going on upstairs, though.

It's college, you should only be worried about what's in the basement

The New United States, Highway Eighty-Eight

Muh Roads wrote:It's college, you should only be worried about what's in the basement

So saith the Book of Roads. He that thinketh not of the basement but of the upstairs, let him be anathema unto the Glorious Church of Roads. Amen.

Muh Roads

New poll in Zentari! Come and vote!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=138803

Rateria

I think we should add an "anti-Fascist" tag. It'll be right beside the anti-Communist tag and I think it'll send a strong message. You don't have to be a Communist to be anti-Fascist.

Narland, Rateria, Jadentopian Order

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:But TRF told me otherwise.

So do the opposite of what they said, even just for the troll foctor.

Rateria

Skaveria wrote:I think we should add an "anti-Fascist" tag. It'll be right beside the anti-Communist tag and I think it'll send a strong message. You don't have to be a Communist to be anti-Fascist.

As a teen I belonged to America's premier anti-fascist organization, the JBS. The kids on the college campus hate it when I mention it for some reason. It didn't win me any friends in the Debate Club, but the pre-Internet Era mentoring perks from industry, academic, and political leaders was outstanding. My only complaint was that not everything is a cabalistic conspiracy. Sometimes people are just being what they are--mean, selfish, power-mongering creepsters who don't care whom they run over on their way to the top of their imaginary heap.

Antifascist, Anticommunist, Antinazi, Antimarxist, Antilenninst, Antitrotskyite, Antisoviet, Anti-starvation, the tags could be endless. :) But, yes, please add Antifascist to the list.

The New United States, Rateria

Narland wrote:As a teen I belonged to America's premier anti-fascist organization, the JBS. The kids on the college campus hate it when I mention it for some reason. It didn't win me any friends in the Debate Club, but the pre-Internet Era mentoring perks from industry, academic, and political leaders was outstanding. My only complaint was that not everything is a cabalistic conspiracy. Sometimes people are just being what they are--mean, selfish, power-mongering creepsters who don't care whom they run over on their way to the top of their imaginary heap.

I would join an anti-fascist club in college but 1.) Probably doesn't exist

2.) If it does it's probably run by leftists who are just gonna call me a fascist

Same goes for any type of anti-commie club except its probably run by alt-right type dudes who would call me a libtard.

Rateria

Jadentopian Order wrote:I would join an anti-fascist club in college but 1.) Probably doesn't exist

2.) If it does it's probably run by leftists who are just gonna call me a fascist

Same goes for any type of anti-commie club except its probably run by alt-right type dudes who would call me a libtard.

Give the JBS a try. If it isn't a good fit, at least you get a chance to meet some nonsocialist anti-fascists. Not all chapters are alike. The best one to which I belonged was full of laid back Libertarian minded folk.

Another group is Toastmasters International. You would not think of Toastmasters as particularly antifascist, but they teach confidence in self-expression with the art of speaking; something that fascists tend to frown upon.

The New United States

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/08/elizabeth-warren-pushes-to-break-up-companies-like-amazon-and-facebook.html

This might be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

Narland wrote:Give the JBS a try. If it isn't a good fit, at least you get a chance to meet some nonsocialist anti-fascists. Not all chapters are alike. The best one to which I belonged was full of laid back Libertarian minded folk.

Another group is Toastmasters International. You would not think of Toastmasters as particularly antifascist, but they teach confidence in self-expression with the art of speaking; something that fascists tend to frown upon.

A look at the JBS website made me skeptical. A lot of stuff I generally don't agree with, but I will take your word that each chapter is different. I need to see what kind of groups the university I'm attending in the fall has. It's not too big, only like 5k students, so I'm not sure how wide my options are.

Jadentopian Order wrote:https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/08/elizabeth-warren-pushes-to-break-up-companies-like-amazon-and-facebook.html

This might be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

A look at the JBS website made me skeptical. A lot of stuff I generally don't agree with, but I will take your word that each chapter is different. I need to see what kind of groups the university I'm attending in the fall has. It's not too big, only like 5k students, so I'm not sure how wide my options are.

You might want to check with your university's Student Activities, perhaps there are means to start your own chapter of something if you do not find what you are looking for.

The New United States

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:Libertatem Temple of Satan #666

Where do I sign up?

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:Libertatem Temple of Satan #666

I was thinking more along the lines of AntiSe (Anti-Serfdom) Counter-Action (perhaps Antiser or Antiserf), or the Hayek League of Economic Justice, or even more whimsically, The Secret Order of the Acolytes of the Shrine of the Sagacious Oracles of the Venerable Lysander Spooner (red fezzes with a gold Anarchy symbol and color coded tassels ranking ones commitment to a rankless society optional). :)

Seriously though, I am sure you could start a Libertarian club if there is nothing else that fits.

Rateria

Narland wrote:I was thinking more along the lines of AntiSe (Anti-Serfdom) Counter-Action (perhaps Antiser or Antiserf), or the Hayek League of Economic Justice, or even more whimsically, The Secret Order of the Acolytes of the Shrine of the Sagacious Oracles of the Venerable Lysander Spooner (red fezzes with a gold Anarchy symbol and color coded tassels ranking ones commitment to a rankless society optional). :)

Seriously though, I am sure you could start a Libertarian club if there is nothing else that fits.

>anti-serfdom

But Narland, serfdom is the only life worth living

Highway Eighty-Eight

The States Of Balloon wrote:>anti-serfdom

But Narland, serfdom is the only life worth living

In a land of serfs, it's good to be king -- not so much for the serf.

In a land of smurfs , ... ah nevermind

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Considering most economists in 2016 forecasted negative growth in 2017, do you think the economic policies of the Trump administration forestalled a recession?

Pevvania wrote:Considering most economists in 2016 forecasted negative growth in 2017, do you think the economic policies of the Trump administration forestalled a recession?

If so, that might come back to bite the market later.

Pevvania wrote:Considering most economists in 2016 forecasted negative growth in 2017, do you think the economic policies of the Trump administration forestalled a recession?

I think economics is stupid and we should go back to a barter system

Pevvania

The States Of Balloon wrote:I think economics is stupid and we should go back to a barter system

wrong. we need a return to feudalism

The New Icelandic Commonwealth

Pevvania wrote:wrong. we need a return to feudalism

The problem with feudalism is that you eventually run out of other people's fealty.

Pevvania

Pevvania wrote:Considering most economists in 2016 forecasted negative growth in 2017, do you think the economic policies of the Trump administration forestalled a recession?

The whole idea of post-Federal Reserve Act (1913) legerdemain is artfully forestalling the inevitable fiduciary collapse with creative bubbles in selected segments of the economy, the general debasement of currency relative to goods and services at a persistently even rate, and keeping "independent" banks wholly dependent upon them. I don't think the Fed hates Trump enough to ditch the Dollar before we arrive at their final destination of Globalist dystopia. They'll give Trump a relatively free hand and return to business as usual once an Establishmentarian is reëlected.

New poll in Zentari, come and vote!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=139228

Rateria

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Looks like he was trying to mess with us again.

Edit: Thank you, Moderators.

Rateria wrote:Looks like he was trying to mess with us again.

Edit: Thank you, Moderators.

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Jadentopian Order wrote:???

The Completly Oppressive States wrote:?

Walking spamvalanche. Don't worry about it.

West Smolcasm wrote:Walking spamvalanche. Don't worry about it.

Don't yell at it... it'll cause another one...

Jadentopian Order wrote:???

The Completly Oppressive States wrote:?

West Smolcasm wrote:Walking spamvalanche. Don't worry about it.

Smolcasm has it right. This person came in the Discord as “Candelstic” and did nothing but post @everyone and refuse to explain himself. I was able to tolerate him for a bit, but he just didn’t seem to add much to conversations.

West Smolcasm

Woohoo! someone was able to read M Rothbard's transcription for his final volume of the Conceived in Liberty series. Soon to be released Vol. 5: The New Republic, 1784–1791. Hopefully the Mises Institute will make a kick-starter for it. For some reason ;) Hamilton is the bad guy -- not like the musical.

[url]https://mises.org/library/lost-fifth-volume-conceived-liberty[/url]

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Narland wrote:Woohoo! someone was able to read M Rothbard's transcription for his final volume of the Conceived in Liberty series. Soon to be released. Hopefully the Mises Institute will make a kickstarter for it.

[url]https://mises.org/library/lost-fifth-volume-conceived-liberty[/url]

I saw that! Cool news. Not sure about a Kickstarter, but it looks like they accept donations for its publication right through their website:

https://mises.org/giving/campaigns/help-publish-volume-5-conceived-liberty-1

I'm almost tempted to donate enough just to have my name printed in the front, but then I remember that I'm a dirt-poor college student. :P

Rateria

The New United States wrote:I saw that! Cool news. Not sure about a Kickstarter, but it looks like they accept donations for its publication right through their website:

https://mises.org/giving/campaigns/help-publish-volume-5-conceived-liberty-1

I'm almost tempted to donate enough just to have my name printed in the front, but then I remember that I'm a dirt-poor college student. :P

i got to meet him as a young teenager on a family summer vacation through Las Vegas to SoCal. I had a weird bucket list of people I wanted to meet. My dad was going to pay for any (age appropriate) Vegas show that I wanted to see, and the look on his face when I instead wanted to track down a Prof from the University. lol.

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Narland wrote:i got to meet him as a young teenager on a family summer vacation through Las Vegas to SoCal. I had a weird bucket list of people I wanted to meet. My dad was going to pay for any (age appropriate) Vegas show that I wanted to see, and the look on his face when I wanted to track down a Prof from the University. lol.

Ha!

Did y'all just go to his office and knock, or what?

Rateria

The New United States wrote:Ha!

Did y'all just go to his office and knock, or what?

Note: Answer Revised and Updated.

No, I used a pay-phone. Back then they were everywhere. I called the college's main switchboard and someone there they gave me his number.

He met my Dad and I at a Sambos/Dennys style restaurant. I didn't bring a book for him to sign, but he brought a signed copy of Libertarian Manifesto. He encouraged me to become an economist, and we discussed philosophical concepts -- Aristotlean/Platonic philosophy and its affects on Augustine and Aquinas in the transference of the concepts of Liberty, also what should be done about the Federal Reserve Bank. He answered some monetary questions I had about the FRB. I got a list of books to read. Iirc my Dad left after only a few minutes and we talked for about an hour.

He was one of those people who when speaking freely, it became evident that he was one of the great minds of this age. Had he had peers to further sharpen his mind, I think he could have stopped the Keynesian deception in its tracks 40 years ago. It makes me wonder how many of the greatest thinkers have been lost to obscurity because they were deemed irrelevant and ignored/ostracized by spirit of the times.

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