Post Archive
Region: Libertatem
NO.
CONTEST.
Miencraft, Pulceria
Believe what you want.
You ever heard of Poe's Law?
I just looked it up. It sounds interesting.
Pulceria
Frustrated? I'm sorry that you feel like everyone's ganging up on you. We will see you at the special election where your candidate is running unopposed. It will be a truly epic battle!
There are three special election candidates, by the way.
You've got Vista, and then you've got Supting, and Boes Ethan is also running.
Oh. I get it :)
Rateria
Correction: Othan. I just default to Ethan because that's actually a name.
Meant from the RLP but thanks for the clarification Mien!
[B]Announcement[/B]
Regarding the recent RMB posts, I would like to say that that is not what the Reform Party is about. The Reform Party is concerned about productive changes to this region. What has happened, is not that. The Reform Party wants to stay away from ad hominem, but faced with so many insults, some of us broke. From the RLP's candidate calling me a dog to Hyder being accused of planting someone to make the RLP look bad, these attacks have gone too far. I hope we can put all this behind us, and focus on fixing this region. Venom was asked if he could unite the party and vote for our presidential candidate, instead, he gave away our platform and ruined the whole point this movement is trying to make. We have taken the warnings seriously, and we will follow them. If anyone has any questions regarding the Reform Party or it's stances, please don't hesitate to telegram me.
Hyderbourg, Pulceria
I guess I got an F on that one :) :) :) :):) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
P.S. is that enough Similes to make my point clear :)
Miencraft, Rateria, Fascist Dred
Sorry your narrative didn't work out.
Libiceland
Just like rape - no is no! Constant harassment is not the way of earning someone's support, as it really says volumes about the integrity and character of the party.
http://imgur.com/a/YyFNf
Pevvania, The United States Of Patriots
Post self-deleted by Hyderbourg.
I myself from the beginning tried to be very careful to not coerce anyone into voting for me, I think Venom himself can vouch for that.
At the same time I acknowledge that Venom was in fact pressured, I will take responsibility for the actions of my party, all I can say is sorry.
That's not something I can or am going to defend, that was truly wrong and all I can do is apologize.
Rateria
Isn't pushing him to vote for your nominee qualify as party pressure? I believe the terminology he used was "it is a cult".
I am more sympathetic to you Lib because I think that you do have a genuine concern for what the Reform Party says its about but isn't a bit ironic that the person railing against "ad hominem" is the person that at every opportunity would call anyone they disagreed with him an expletive? Including your nominee...
Miencraft, Venomringo, Jadentopian Order
It wasn't just you! It was the party and the leader of it - Auxorii!
Humpheria, Jadentopian Order
I remember that I once apologized to someone for him being pressured... Then he made a party to oppose me and those I agree with. If it wasn't let go when the RLP did it, why should it be let go when the RP does it? I think both of us can see that that is a blatant double standard.
Miencraft, Venomringo
I'm not asking for you to let go of it, hold it over my head, that's fine.
I apologized because it was wrong, not because I expected forgiveness.
I'm not going to hold it over your head, but your party did to me. I know what its like. I have an acute familiarity with the sensation of having individuals pledged and united towards the goal of your ultimate downfall. Making comments about every decision you've ever made. Being insulted, harassed, and stressed out to the point of exhaustion. I hope no one ever does that to you. So no, I won't hold it over your head but you can bet I'll point out the double standard when I see it.
Miencraft, Rateria
I know and I apologize for everything that I have said, including you Humph. I am trying to improve and the last 2 days have been much better I think. Here is a direct quote from Auxorii; the things he said to Venom: (I hope I am not going to be banned for this) "Sean, you voting for Pev will make us look bad. Our party is getting stronger, we need to unite under our candidate, you voting for Pev makes us, the party, and the whole movement look bad. You're concerned about getting Pev to change his platform instead of supporting our own guy. Pev is gonna put Humph, and all them back in government. Again, it's the same guys again and again and you're contributing to that by voting for him. We need reform. And we need to stick together. I really need you to post on the RMB saying that you need to back our own nominee." We are a brand new party, fighting for reforms and fairness. That is why it it very important that we stick together, but unfortunately Venom wasn't ready to do that and left. And this "cult" he is talking about, is a cult that lets everyone help create the policy, and vote for it
This quote is from Venom's post by the way
I appreciate that apology and I do have to commend you for doing a better job!
Honestly that is a lot more pressure than anyone in the RLP ever had. I just asked Hyder to consider voting for me after he voted for Aux to make him feel better. I am sorry to Venom that he had to go through that. Neither party should have to stoop to that level over one election.
Miencraft, Rateria, Venomringo
They're in government becuse they're the most qualified. Call me back when you have as much experience and skill leading a region as large as they do.
Miencraft, Humpheria, Rateria, Venomringo
To be fair...He doesn't know your phone number
Humpheria, Rateria
1-800-RLPTYRANNY
Miencraft, Rateria, Venomringo
Everytime that you and I spoke of the election, I respected your support for Pevvania and never once asked you to switch that.
It seems as if Aux was pressuring you over private chat, I was not aware of that, I wish you would have told me so I could have spoken with him.
Again, I'm sorry that you were pressured and apologize on behalf of the entire party.
This is not right by any standard and we deserve to be reprimanded for this.
https://imgur.com/gallery/jgtEm
Rateria, Libiceland
Jadentopia, they're in government because of nepotism, simple as that
Everyone who is currently in government started out new; we all started out not knowing anything about this region. We worked our way up through the ranks and became trusted.
The people who consistently end up in power do so because the majority of voters trust them to do a good job.
Rateria, The United States Of Patriots
Prove it. Show me evidence of Humph saying "vote for me because I am your friend!1!!111!!"
Humpheria, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots
You're right, none of these establishment commies have any right to hold office. They've NEVER proven themselves.
Miencraft, Humpheria, Rateria, Fascist Dred
That's simply not true. Elections exist. Its a common tactic by opposition parties around the world to claim that individuals in power got there by corruption but the fact of the matter is that the only people in government that didn't get elected are the Cabinet and they all got confirmed by the Senate. If that's "nepotism" (not even the correct usage of that word) than Auxorii was just as guilty because I asked him to switch seats to run for mine unopposed and he had an endorsement from the RLP.
Miencraft, Rateria
Stop drinking the Kool-Aid that Auxorii has been giving you, LibIceLand. He's a very convincing man, but so was Jim Jones!
Humpheria
I thought all this drama with Auxorii was over?
Drama is never over in this region. You will find that out soon enough if you haven't already. I think we thrive on it.
Miencraft, Rateria
I know that but usually when one drama is over it's over and we move on to the next drama.
Let's just take the justice system as an example. Mien is very active in politics despite his job being justice. It is very possible that he could rule in favor of his political allies because he has the power to do so- that's the kind of nepotism we're fighting
Hello, I'm Tomaina I am hoping to get involved in regional politics. But I am new and need some direction.
Narland, Humpheria, Rateria, Libiceland
Everybody stop talking
Libiceland, Pulceria
Welcome!
Hey look. If Lib's anything like me he saw that we needed a reform and the only guy who offered it was Aux. I don't see how that could be because he is convincing.
But you ate right Aux is convincing, if by convincing you mean the only person who realizes thing for what they are. :)
Hyderbourg, Libiceland
Post self-deleted by Venomringo.
Hey what a coincedance. we were just talking about our regional politics. So go ahead jump right in.
As far as direction, let me sum it up.
their are two basic sides, reform and not reform. telegram Pevvania for Not reform Questions. telegram Hyderbourg for reform Questions. Or start your own Side and Add to the confusion. :)
P.S. things move fast so run to keep up.
P.P.S. welcome.
Hyderbourg, Libiceland
I know right. I blink and I miss a big discussion.
Good thing my allies are the ones who don't commit crimes so we don't need to worry about bias.
Welcome! I'm Humph and I'm the President of Libertatem. We have a very active and engaged group of citizens. Telegram me if you have any questions. And please join our discord as well! Link is in the WFE!
Miencraft, Rateria, Hyderbourg, Libiceland
You just admitted they were your allies
Pulceria
"You are not allowed to be friends with people that you work with"
Miencraft
Friends =|= allies
Libiceland
Sometimes allies are friends. It's not an either or situation.
Rateria
I mean, if you want to use the term "allies", sure, I'll use it too.
Rule 63 is the pinnacle of human achievement
Miencraft, Rateria
I prefer rule 34
Rateria, Hyderbourg
Rule 63 rule 34.
Rateria, Pulceria
I do not know much about the two sides reform or not reform could you please explain the basics in layman's terms.
We have political parties. One of them is called the Reform Party. You can get more information in the "Political Parties" list up top.
Rateria, Libiceland
Thank you for telling me I will soon look at them.
tresh
TRESH
I am also a supporter of the 34!
Top 10 anime battles:
[B]Number One:[/B]Libertatem Polling Corporation vs Libertatem Polling Service
Miencraft, Rateria, Fascist Dred, Libiceland
Me too
Rateria
The battle grows...
Rateria
Good god, people and FDR man
[B]STATEMENT FROM THE OFFICE OF THE SPEAKER[/B]
The things we've seen and heard over the past several hours from the so-called opposition party have shocked many of us. Voter intimidation, cults of personality, artificially inflated poll numbers, illegal party leadership, illicit backroom deals. These accusations and more are floating around about the Reform Party. People are calling this reprehensible, and many are expecting me to jump on the bandwagon in condemning the outrages.
I will not.
We need to move past the political divisions of the region and come together to embrace the successes we're all rooting for. Everyone has been in favour of judicial reform, everyone has supported the CPE merger. And today, the Senate delivered on both of those crucial policies.
By two unanimous votes, the RLP/ACA - the Free Libertatem Coalition - passed the JURIES Act, based on opposition suggestions, which reforms the judicial system and introduces juries for a fairer, more republican system of justice.
Additionally, my negotiations with the Central Pacific Empire have reached an agreement that both delegations seem to be happy with.
By coming together as a region, we can accomplish so much more than through partisanship.
I'm disappointed that [nation=short]Hyderbourg[/nation] rejected my offer for a coalition, but in the spirit of civility and bipartisanship I would like to extend that offer once again.
~Pevvania
Miencraft, Humpheria, Rateria, Jadentopian Order
Post self-deleted by Hyderbourg.
When I'm confident that you'll stop referring to my constituents as dogs, perhaps I'll reconsider.
I do commend you on taking our recommendation though.
Libiceland
Lads, I messed up. I unfairly attacked the Reform Party yesterday with slanderous words and screenshots without context to ruin the image of Hyder and Auxorii. I was impulsive in my decision to leave the party and call it a "cult", and I truly regret using those words when I was so confused about the polarization in our region. For this reason, I will be supporting Hyderbourg this election season rather than Pev because Hyder truly understands the will of Libertatem. We need to make Libertatem transparent and fair again, so I beg for you all to vote Hyder, please!
Libiceland
I'm sad to see you leave the ACA for the very hypocritical Reform Party, but if that's what you truly believe then so be it. I know that I can rest easy knowing that I don't worship a proud traitor.
Who owns Libertatem Polling Corporation? Very well designed logo! I would like to contact them for a logo for my law firm's logo.
I'll have you know I love dogs, particularly German Shepherds and Huskies, so my remark was meant as nothing more than an idle complement.
Excellent.
Libiceland
> Libertatem does {REDACTED}
> Auxorii thinks {REDACTED} is unjust
> Auxorii tells the population about {REDACTED}
> Auxorii understands what he did is wrong and accepts the punishment, but is proud that libertatem knows the truth about {REDACTED}
> "AUXORII IS A PROUD TRAITOR BECAUSE HE TOLD THE DEMOCRACY OF LIBERTATEM THE GOVERNMENT WAS DOING {REDACTED}!"
Libiceland
Let's not forget that he proudly showed off the information as classified and secret.
FOUR OUT OF SIXTEEN RESULTS IN SO FAR
Did you only telegram sixteen nations...?
While the RLP is making polls attacking us, we're making a platform that is truly one for the people, transparent and open discussion on our Discord, anyone is welcome.
https://discord.gg/k672stb
#NeverStopWinning #TiredOfWinning #BigLeague
Libiceland
Welcome to Libertatem where half of the region is polling the other half of the region!
Rateria
RLP doesn't have any polling nations but that's clever for sure! I'm sure that your guys' pointed questions will work out for ya!
Also big props to Pev for giving the RP the Trump hashtags, that was a good idea!
Watched Top Gun for the first time tonight. Amazing film, Tom Cruise is a great actor and a great guy, I don't like the unnecessary hate he gets.
Humpheria, Rateria, Fascist Dred, Libiceland, Jadentopian Order
I don't love him
Hahah, why would we making a polling nation when we're up in the actual polls?
Good one though pal, saw another five nations CTE yesterday, maybe work on that.
#BIG_LEAGUE!
Libiceland
"Please don't CTE"
Humpheria, Rateria
Henceforth, no nation in Libertatem will be permitted to CTE. CTEing will be punished by deletion!
Haha but no seriously I would love to work on the population size with you guys, that is if you have any suggestions other than just vague criticisms. Perhaps it would be a good way to occupy your time outside of your secret Discord channel ;)
Pulceria
SAD! FAKE NEWS!
Discord is open to all.
Libiceland
#council
That's where EVERY and ALL members can vote, nothing secret happens there and all votes will be made public.
#RLP_FAKE_NEWS!
Hyderbourg, Libiceland
By the way, everyone was making polling nations so we made one too.
Hyderbourg, Libiceland
Be careful, it's going to be hard keeping all of these polling nations straight. Don't get your different polls mixed up, we wouldn't want any #Trumped up poll numbers!
Haha, we all know know that Jaden owns Libertatem Polling Corporation, and who knows which others.
Questions were SAD!
Libiceland
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You can also tell we own "Libertatem Pollsta" cause we don't have hours to go around making polling flags (;
Libiceland
Are you okay, wanna make a poll about it?
Libiceland
This is too funny holy sh*t
Post self-deleted by Lspan.
Breaking News: Term Amendment passes and this nation is once again active.
Rateria, The Aradites
FAKE NEWS ALERT: Low-Energy Reform Cult tries to tell me that I run the Libertatem Polling Corporation! A witch hunt against the RLP/FLC folks.
Pevvania, Muh Roads, Venomringo
I would recommend starting with the links of the Regional Factbook and feel free to ask as many questions as you have.
https://www.nationstates.net/region=libertatem
Rateria, Libiceland
The more clumsy and out of shape a Panda named Po the better it will be at martial arts? :smiley: :wink: :emoji of intent:
Poe's Law...?
Friends do not let friends CTE
This Public Service Announcement has been paid for by private funds and is not intended to represent the views of Libertatem, the Office of Attorney General, Narland or anyone else. Any similarity to CTE'd nations is purely coincidental. No nations were harmed in the making of this message. Ask your doctor if Libertatem is right for you.
Rateria, Libiceland, Pulceria
Post self-deleted by Libiceland.
I'm hereby announcing my candidacy for Senate seat 4 under the RLP.
Pevvania, The United States Of Patriots, Dredism Poling Corp
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