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Hell yeah, Beijing is mine! Shanghai, you're next! THE WRATH OF THE MONGOLS WILL NEVER CEASE

Pevvania wrote:There can never be peace under socialism, as one of its core dogmas advocates a permanent state of aggression.

Yes, but a true state of Communism would be a great one. (Not like the screw-ups of China and Russia)

Pevvania wrote:Hell yeah, Beijing is mine! Shanghai, you're next! THE WRATH OF THE MONGOLS WILL NEVER CEASE

I call dibs on Hong Kong.

Pevvania wrote:Hell yeah, Beijing is mine! Shanghai, you're next! THE WRATH OF THE MONGOLS WILL NEVER CEASE

Playing Civ 5, Pev?

Ipian wrote:Yes, but a true state of Communism would be a great one. (Not like the screw-ups of China and Russia)

NOTE: I am Libertarian

Ipian wrote:Yes, but a true state of Communism would be a great one. (Not like the screw-ups of China and Russia)

Ipian wrote:NOTE: I am Libertarian

You mean like Anarcho-Communism? Nooooo thank yoouuu.

Muh Roads wrote:You mean like Anarcho-Communism? Nooooo thank yoouuu.

No.. I was just saying I wasn't a traitor

Muh Roads wrote:Playing Civ 5, Pev?

Indeed I am ^_^ There's something infinitely refreshing about playing on Archipelago maps.

Muh Roads wrote:Playing Civ 5, Pev?

Should I get that?

Ipian wrote:Yes, but a true state of Communism would be a great one. (Not like the screw-ups of China and Russia)

No, it wouldn't. F**k collectivism.

Ipian wrote:Should I get that?

Yes, you should. Brilliant game.

Pevvania wrote:No, it wouldn't. F**k collectivism.

But think about it, a state with no money where all are equal. Sounds good?

Pevvania wrote:Indeed I am ^_^ There's something infinitely refreshing about playing on Archipelago maps.

DA BOATS

Pevvania wrote:Indeed I am ^_^ There's something infinitely refreshing about playing on Archipelago maps.

From experience with Age of Empires, I can say that archipelago maps are indeed very wonderful.

Ipian wrote:But think about it, a state with no money where all are equal. Sounds good?

No, it doesn't. Markets are the foundation of civilization. Anything less would be pure barbarism.

Pevvania wrote:Yes, you should. Brilliant game.

Will do. Brave New World and Gods And Kings also?

Pevvania wrote:Markets are the foundation of civilization.

Yes, I agree.

Pevvania wrote:Anything less would be pure barbarism.

Thats a bit extreme..

Ipian wrote:Will do. Brave New World and Gods And Kings also?

Also, Age of Empires.

It's Real-Time as opposed to Civ's Turn-Based, but it's not all that different.

Miencraft wrote:Also, Age of Empires

1,2 or 3?

Ipian wrote:1,2 or 3?

2 & 3 both.. oh yea.

Muh Roads wrote:2 & 3 both.. oh yea.

Haha… Im not made of money.

Ipian wrote:Will do. Brave New World and Gods And Kings also?

The expansions are both worth it, but Gods and Kings is great.. It introduces a religion factor.. you can spread the good word of the state.. i mean lord/god/whatever.. across the lands!

Muh Roads wrote:you can spread the good word of the state across the lands!

yay

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Ipian wrote:Yes, I agree.

Thats a bit extreme..

All libertarians should be opposed to systems of totalitarianism. Communism cannot be achieved in any other way than via the use of force. Anarcho-communism is an especially naive ideology, as it assumes that were there not a state everyone would magically come together singing Kumbaya and create a communist civilization. I don't think any society, free or not, would voluntarily regress into primitivism after all the advances that have come from the market.

My Population Stimulus Plan is working! Our population recession has ended, and we're now creeping back into the 100s!

Thank you, Telegram-Keynesianism!

Pevvania wrote:All libertarians should be opposed to systems of totalitarianism.

I am. I was just bring up a point.

Pevvania wrote:Yes, you should. Brilliant game.

Try out Democracy 3

Ipian wrote:Try out Democracy 3

I've heard it's a little too easy.

Pevvania wrote:I've heard it's a little too easy.

It's very fun.

Ipian wrote:Yes, I agree.

Thats a bit extreme..

Communism is a savage's ideology. Communism - is an ideology that appeals to the primitive sense of man's nature to cooperate for the good of the tribe, but does not work in a globalized world where the whole world is reduced to a village.

"In Italy, for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love, they had 500 years of democracy and peace and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock." - Orson Welles

YEEEES YEEES! China has fallen under the might of the Mongols!

http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=244284

Ipian wrote:Try out Democracy 3

I have so much mods on that game.

[Nation]pradyumna[/nation] welcome to Libertatem!!

The Amarican Empire wrote:I have so much mods on that game.

Me to.

Pevvania wrote:YEEEES YEEES! China has fallen under the might of the Mongols!

Now the world is mad at you except for your one ally and one nation that tolerates warmongers.

Anyone on here part of the Constitutional Party?

How can i become part of a party in Libertatem?

Muh Roads wrote:Now the world is mad at you except for your one ally and one nation that tolerates warmongers.

I think it's a little too late to make an ally! There were three other nations in the game (now two), one of which I haven't met. I've conquered three city-states, so I'm pretty much an eternal asshole to the rest of the world.

Ipian wrote:How can i become part of a party in Libertatem?

You can either create one or join one. To do the first is easy, for the second just TG a party leader.

Can I ask, do any of you guys have kids?

Pevvania wrote:Can I ask, do any of you guys have kids?

Nope. To young.

Pevvania wrote:You can either create one or join one. To do the first is easy, for the second just TG a party leader.

How can I create one, if you don't mind me asking?

Pevvania wrote:Can I ask, do any of you guys have kids?

Not yet. Thankfully... lol

Pevvania wrote:Can I ask, do any of you guys have kids?

No. Plus, I'm only 14.

Ipian wrote:How can I create one, if you don't mind me asking?

Tg Pev the name of the party and its platform.

Muh Roads wrote:Tg Pev the name of the party and its platform.

Ok

Pevvania wrote:Can I ask, do any of you guys have kids?

None (aside from myself, depending on what "self-made man" and "child at heart" means).

Pevvania wrote:Can I ask, do any of you guys have kids?

My girlfriend and I are raising her five year old brother for the next two years if that counts.

Although he has gone to his other sisters' house while she is still going to rehab. Got the hospital bills today. NEVER get in a car accident.

Humpheria wrote:Although he has gone to his other sisters' house while she is still going to rehab. Got the hospital bills today. NEVER get in a car accident.

Aren't you supposed to be covered by TriCare until 21?

Rotgeheim wrote:Aren't you supposed to be covered by TriCare until 21?

No, my father was a reservist during his last tour. I didn't qualify.

The Libertatem President of Pevvania I sent you a telegram.

Remember guys: the party system is privatised (done by the PACT Act, I think). You don't need to ask me if you want to make a party, I just happen to be the one with the keys to the parties factbook.

Humpheria wrote:Although he has gone to his other sisters' house while she is still going to rehab. Got the hospital bills today. NEVER get in a car accident.

You should be able to make a medical claim with your car insurance.

Muh Roads wrote:You should be able to make a medical claim with your car insurance.

Yeah, I'm 19. I have no idea what you are even talking about. Or how to do it, at least.

Muh Roads wrote:You should be able to make a medical claim with your car insurance.

At least that's how it works here. I had my hospital bills taken care of when I got whiplash from being rear ended last year.

Humpheria wrote:Yeah, I'm 19. I have no idea what you are even talking about. Or how to do it, at least.

Just call your insurance company, along with your collision claim tell them you and your passenger had to be hospitalized. They should take it from there.

Welcome to our newest party, the Keaton Libertarians!

Pevvania wrote:Welcome to our newest party, the Keaton Libertarians!

AYE!

Pevvania wrote:Welcome to our newest party, the Keaton Libertarians!

Like Michael Keaton?

Where can I find the Court act?

Just a little pet project I've been working on. I'm bringing it up so I can take suggestions now while the COURT Act is still going. This bill establishes an office of the Vice President.

VEEP Act

French Communists wrote:Where can I find the Court act?

Here

Humpheria wrote:Just a little pet project I've been working on. I'm bringing it up so I can take suggestions now while the COURT Act is still going. This bill establishes an office of the Vice President.

VEEP Act

Veep veep ima jeep

Humpheria wrote:Here

Thank you. I'll look over it in a moment.

Rotgeheim wrote:Like Michael Keaton?

No, Like Alex P. Keaton.

Ipian wrote:No, Like Alex P. Keaton.

:)

Have you guys heard of the Battle for Castle Itter? It's pretty amazing. I hope it gets made into a movie.

The basic gist of the battle is that American tankers (only three tanks) liberated a German-held castle in Austria and freed its French and Yugoslavian prisoners. A German Army unit nearby joined the Americans in defending the castle from attack from a Waffen-SS Panzergrenadier (mechanized infantry) Regiment, and is the only battle in which German and American soldiers joined forces in combat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_for_Castle_Itter

Ipian wrote:No, Like Alex P. Keaton.

I think I'm the only one who got that ;) Family Ties is a great show.

Humpheria wrote:Just a little pet project I've been working on. I'm bringing it up so I can take suggestions now while the COURT Act is still going. This bill establishes an office of the Vice President.

VEEP Act

I'm surprised to say that I actually like this. But it needs work. It needs to be a constitutional amendment, for obvious reasons, and would have to amend the clause in one of our laws that says a nation may only occupy one position at a time. And be a bit more clear on succession.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Veep veep ima jeep

Choppa-choppa-choppa

I'm a helicopter

Pevvania wrote:I'm surprised to say that I actually like this. But it needs work. It needs to be a constitutional amendment, for obvious reasons, and would have to amend the clause in one of our laws that says a nation may only occupy one position at a time. And be a bit more clear on succession.

Thank you. Will do.

Humpheria wrote:New one.

VEEP Amendment

I don't see any holes. It's great.

What does everyone else thing?

Ipian wrote:No, Like Alex P. Keaton.

Lol, Family Ties. Back when we had Netflix, my family watched it.

Pevvania wrote:I think I'm the only one who got that ;) Family Ties is a great show.

Yeah it's awesome

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Lol, Family Ties. Back when we had Netflix, my family watched it.

Yeah, it's very well done.

Humpheria wrote:New one.

VEEP Amendment

I'm going to feel a bit bad about this.. but... I think a vice president is pointless. Per the constitution we have 5 executive positions as it stands. (Article I, Section I, Subsection II AND Article II, Section I). Now i do not see in the act where a possible VP receives any power at all, but the name is a bit misleading in that sense. Very Executive Extension of President Act. So if this possible VP is to not hold any executive power and just serve as a successor to the president that needs to be more evident in the bill.

Otherwise, i would think that an emergency election lead by a succession of power would be more beneficial.

4 executives and 1 superpower*

Humpheria wrote:New one.

VEEP Amendment

Section I

Purpose of the law

Subsection I

To more clearly define the line of succession (of what or of whom)

Subsection II

To create an executive adviser (titled as Vice President...?) to the President

Subsection III

Outline selection process (of what or of whom)

Section II

Creation of the Office of the Vice President

Subsection I

Henceforth the second-most Libertatem official shall be known as Vice President (define second-most)

Subsection II

The Vice President can serve any other government position

Subsection III

In the event that the President is not available, the Vice President shall act as Executive (define "not available")

Subsection IV

In the event that the President is incapacitated or leaves office, the Vice President shall become President

Subsection V

The President may authorize the Vice-President to serve as his representative in any foreign meetings or ceremonies.

Section III

Line of Presidential Succession

Subsection I

The Vice President shall become the President in the event of his abdication of office. Following the Vice President, the Chairman second, Manager of Internal Affairs, Manager of Military Affairs, Manager of State, and Members of the Board descending from Seat One.

Subsection II

In the event that the Vice President becomes temporary President, all executive decisions are subject to change at the return of normalcy (define normalcy)

Section IV

Selection of Vice President

Subsection I

The Vice President shall be selected by each respective candidate prior to the election

Subsection II

Upon the President taking office, the Vice President must be approved by the Board and the People (Wouldn't the people approve of the Vice-President in the first place if they elected him the winner?)

Subsection III

The Vice President shall be approved by a simple majority vote (of whom?)

Just my two bits :P

Muh Roads wrote:I'm going to feel a bit bad about this.. but... I think a vice president is pointless. Per the constitution we have 5 executive positions as it stands. (Article I, Section I, Subsection II AND Article II, Section I). Now i do not see in the act where a possible VP receives any power at all, but the name is a bit misleading in that sense. Very Executive Extension of President Act. So if this possible VP is to not hold any executive power and just serve as a successor to the president that needs to be more evident in the bill.

Otherwise, i would think that an emergency election lead by a succession of power would be more beneficial.

No, the title is just because I wanted to make VEEP work. The Vice President serves as a personal adviser to the president and the successor. While he may not have any executive power himself, I think that is a good thing. That is why he can hold another office, his job isn't very important. But, I would rather have one and not need him, then need one and not have one.

Ostenburg wrote:Just my two bits :P

1. Definitions are for the final copy, this just an overview

2. I am okay with the foreign bit

3. They would approve the President's pick of Vice President when the President is elected. Let's say Hallo wins and CI is his VP. The Board would vote on whether or not to approve CI.

Humpheria wrote:Just a little pet project I've been working on. I'm bringing it up so I can take suggestions now while the COURT Act is still going. This bill establishes an office of the Vice President.

VEEP Act

I like it

It's some neat legislation, and it actually gives us a contingency plan. It works.

I don't like the ammendment. The Vp is unneeded. It is just adding to a expanding government. Besides if the President needs advise, there are the managers.

Northern Prussia wrote:I don't like the ammendment. The Vp is unneeded. It is just adding to a expanding government. Besides if the President needs advise, there are the managers.

Hey, it always gives another person a job.

Humpheria wrote:No, the title is just because I wanted to make VEEP work. The Vice President serves as a personal adviser to the president and the successor. While he may not have any executive power himself, I think that is a good thing. That is why he can hold another office, his job isn't very important. But, I would rather have one and not need him, then need one and not have one.

Ok. You might want to make it clearly defined that he is meant to hold no power other than being a successor in your final draft. Saying he is the second highest official is misleading, and I could see things going awry very quickly if a hot-head gets the position.

You also need to consider adding information about impeachment and what percentage or majority of votes is needed from the board/house to approve the presidents choice for VP.

Also Humpheria, is the board ever going to respond to my telegram? ;)

Muh Roads wrote:Also Humpheria, is the board ever going to respond to muh telegram? ;)

That's better.

Rotgeheim wrote:That's better.

We're friends now. You can't refuse.

Muh Roads wrote:We're friends now. You can't refuse.

Accepted.

Rotgeheim wrote:Accepted.

It's still a better love story than Twilight.

Ipian wrote:It's still a better love story than Twilight.

The Spider and the Fly was a better love story than Twilight.

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