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One can argue it began with the left; but that's irrelevant.

Zeouria wrote:Hello.

The word belongs to no one.

These days Libertarian means Minarchist Capitalists

Today I corrected my teacher. On the study guide she said that Karl Marx introduced communism to the Soviet Union. But the Soviet Union never achieved communism.

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The Amarican Empire wrote:These days Libertarian means Minarchist Capitalists

Today I corrected my teacher. On the study guide she said that Karl Marx introduced communism to the Soviet Union. But the Soviet Union never achieved communism.

And Karl Marx died before the soviet union existed.

Zeouria wrote:How so?

There is so many things wrong with what you just said...

What are you accusing me of being wrong on? Correcting my teacher or saying that most people these days think of a Minarchist Capitalist when thinking of a Libertarian?

Does anyone else want to punch Al Sharpton through the screen every time his face appears there?

I love this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcOgOWLCWxw

Homo Sapien Sapiens wrote:Why does thou closeth thine Embassy?

You're a one-nation region. We can't conduct diplomacy with a one-nation region.

Perhaps when you grow more we can re-establish embassies.

You know. N.K is actually rather Democratic.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:You know. N.K is actually rather Democratic.

What, because they have the word "Democratic" in their title?

Miencraft wrote:What, because they have the word "Democratic" in their title?

No they are having elections...The N.S one which you despise so much.

I have actually been talking to their founder and once I finish getting all the information I need I am going to post it in parts to the regional news, so everyone can have kind of an insight into the mind of a supporter of North Korea.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:No they are having elections...The N.S one which you despise so much.

I have actually been talking to their founder and once I finish getting all the information I need I am going to post it in parts to the regional news, so everyone can have kind of an insight into the mind of a supporter of North Korea.

Oh. That North Korea.

I mean, it is kind of hard to run a region without elections. Indeed it is.

And it's pretty much one of the goals of our existence at this point: to hate NK.

Miencraft wrote:Oh. That North Korea.

I mean, it is kind of hard to run a region without elections. Indeed it is.

And it's pretty much one of the goals of our existence at this point: to hate NK.

well I wish to stop hate and I believe it can only be achieved if we actually try to understand each other. This is how I am going to help.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:You know. N.K is actually rather Democratic.

Yep! You can vote however you like, so long as it's the party line.

Why don't you go visit over there and see how long before you're banjected? :)

It you probably be boring to be in a region without elections.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:well I wish to stop hate and I believe it can only be achieved if we actually try to understand each other. This is how I am going to help.

Don't try to understand socialists, you would lose your mind and even your soul.

Confederacy wrote:Don't try to understand socialists, you would lose your mind and even your soul.

It's making making some sense.

If I have permission I'll post in the...ummm...news.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:It's making making some sense.

If I have permission I'll post in the...ummm...news.

News is privatized. Do whatever the hell you want.

Miencraft wrote:News is privatized. Do whatever the hell you want.

Not from y'all. From the N.K Founder

"If socialists understood economics, they wouldn't be socialists." - FA Hayek

How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.

Ronald Reagan

Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/r/ronaldreag183967.html#YoG3W3t6VPoB0G0E.99

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:Not from y'all. From the N.K Founder

Oh. Well don't even bother if you have to get permission.

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:Don't try to understand socialists, you would lose your mind and even your soul.

Its like trying to understand women. Its futile trying to stop our hate against NK.

Lol, a Commie tried to liberate CAPS, and promptly got booted by the WA.

Fail.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Lol, a Commie tried to liberate CAPS, and promptly got booted by the WA.

Fail.

:p

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Lol, a Commie tried to liberate CAPS, and promptly got booted by the WA.

Fail.

Herp derp derp.

Miencraft wrote:You're a one-nation region. We can't conduct diplomacy with a one-nation region.

Perhaps when you grow more we can re-establish embassies.

But my neighboring civilizations haveth gone into oblivion. Now the forces doth liberty turneth agaist me.

Homo Sapien Sapiens wrote:But my neighboring civilizations haveth gone into oblivion. Now the forces doth liberty turneth agaist me.

Liberty has a way if screwing things.

Homo Sapien Sapiens wrote:But my neighboring civilizations haveth gone into oblivion. Now the forces doth liberty turneth agaist me.

1) "Doth" means "does"

2) That's honestly your own problem to deal with; we cannot conduct diplomacy with a dead region, which yours is, and that's that.

Everyone with NS++ Ideological Tolerance's Interview with North Korea's Leader is on the Newspaper.

Also I'm wondering if I should since the Islamic Freedom Force toppled my old Government if I should reinstate an Islamic Democracy instead of just a dictatorship.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:Everyone with NS++ Ideological Tolerance's Interview with North Korea's Leader is on the Newspaper.

*reads TTA's article*

*vomits blood and satanic discharges*

Sounds like a bunch of "Our Dear Leader says Capitalism is bad".

Sorry, no.

Humpheria wrote:*reads TTA's article*

*vomits blood and satanic discharges*

Sounds like a bunch of "Our Dear Leader says Capitalism is bad".

Sorry, no.

Humph I'm sorry, but you guys are some of the most close minded people.

The NK founder understood some of my points and accepted the fact that I had basis behind my views.

The NK founder's views and reasoning are all there as well and the reasoning behind it makes some sense.

Do they honestly think there would be a higher chance that a state run media in say, Communist China, would permit a platform that is completely contrary to it's ideas, if it has a political agenda?

States ALWAYS have political agendas. Independent broadcasting companies such as Al Jazeera do not, and remain fairly unbiased in their views - because their only agenda is to gain more money. As it goes to show, operating in different companies and showing alternative opinions is a good business model. Al Jazeera doesn't want to focus to much on one side, one issue, or one country, because this would make their ratings plummet, cut off investors, and alienate all but one target group.

The first response would obviously be, "but Fox News has a Republican/ideological agenda????" Yes, this is true. But I attribute this more or less to the dual party nature of America, and the corporate subsidization from various Republican based super PACS and political organizations. In other words, "it's the (governing) system, stupid." A Fox without the Republicans would be 150% better imo. A Fox News who's profit incentive is not to appease politicians but to actual viewers would be 300% better. Socialists and social democrats are quick to blame "capitalism" or greed or whatever, and yet forget that by increasing the size of the state to deal with the problem turns out to only worsen the problem. And so it goes.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Do they honestly think there would be a higher chance that a state run media in say, Communist China, would permit a platform that is completely contrary to it's ideas, if it has a political agenda?

States ALWAYS have political agendas. Independent broadcasting companies such as Al Jazeera do not, and remain fairly unbiased in their views - because their only agenda is to gain more money. As it goes to show, operating in different companies and showing alternative opinions is a good business model. Al Jazeera doesn't want to focus to much on one side, one issue, or one country, because this would make their ratings plummet, cut off investors, and alienate all but one target group.

The first response would obviously be, "but Fox News has a Republican/ideological agenda????" Yes, this is true. But I attribute this more or less to the dual party nature of America, and the corporate subsidization from various Republican based super PACS and political organizations. In other words, "it's the (governing) system, stupid." A Fox without the Republicans would be 150% better imo. A Fox News who's profit incentive is not to appease politicians but to actual viewers would be 300% better. Socialists and social democrats are quick to blame "capitalism" or greed or whatever, and yet forget that by increasing the size of the state to deal with the problem turns out to only worsen the problem. And so it goes.

Well look. In America which is more Trustworthy?

PBS, CNN, MSNBC or FOX. They make a good point in that example. They want to sell and they don't want to offend.

I'll be going on later either tonight, tomorrow or Tuesday to begin discussion on how democratic North Korea actually is. I'll Bring this question up.

Are there any other question you'd like me to touch up on while I'm at it?

I'll be going over elections, fairness, fear factor, parties and movements in North Korea in my next talk with the Founder.

Any other ideologies you'd like me to analyze and interview? Remember I'm only asking questions not disputing them.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:Well look. In America which is more Trustworthy?

PBS, CNN, MSNBC or FOX. They make a good point in that example. They want to sell and they don't want to offend.

I'll be going on later either tonight, tomorrow or Tuesday to begin discussion on how democratic North Korea actually is. I'll Bring this question up.

North Korea democratic? What's next, I suppose that Adolf Hitler wasn't actually a bad guy.

More:

States have agendas because they are accountable to the people (hint: the ruling class) to maximize profit and become a political tool in keeping in power. A state run media, if implemented, would at first attempt to control remaining private agencies by buying out the competition (of which they can because unlimited taxpayer money), and their existence would crowd out good broadcasting companies that are unable to "compete" with a freely run service. Over time, the quality of the state run media compared to the PBCs would become so "superior" that PBCs would likely be abolished as the citizens would develop a bias towards the state run media being superior, of which it's relative superiority in comparison to others would actually be dismal if there were competing broadcasting companies who are incentivized to outperform each other, leading to higher quality services and lower costs. Not only that, but without alternative stations there would be less democracy as there would be less selection in choice. There would be no "black" or minority broadcasting companies that are trying to fill a niche (and gain money from it), and there would be no minority views on state run services unless the minority is that majority running it.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:North Korea democratic? What's next, I suppose that Adolf Hitler wasn't actually a bad guy.

well if you read the interview she mentions Elections and Political Parties, so I will be asking her more about these as well as offering views of it being totalitarian to see what they say to respond.

And again. I'm doing this to expand views in this region to maybe make it less...Hostile....

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:well if you read the interview she mentions Elections and Political Parties, so I will be asking her more about these as well as offering views of it being totalitarian to see what they say to respond.

And again. I'm doing this to expand views in this region to maybe make it less...Hostile....

Uh, they are forced to celebrate Kim Jung Il's birthday every year and if they dare speak out against their ruler they are dealt with.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Uh, they are forced to celebrate Kim Jung Il's birthday every year and if they dare speak out against their ruler they are dealt with.

Yes, but I need the other sides opinion. I'll make those claims and she will dispute them, but I won't dispute back, or at least not argument wise, but more of a questioning dispution

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:well if you read the interview she mentions Elections and Political Parties, so I will be asking her more about these as well as offering views of it being totalitarian to see what they say to respond.

And again. I'm doing this to expand views in this region to maybe make it less...Hostile....

We aren't hostile. We will accept anyone.

Libertatem has made allies and friends of US Republicans, British democrats, libertarian socialists, social liberals, Pan-Slavists, Anarchists, Catholics and Pro-Lifers, Zionists, revolutionary Arabian nationalists, Gay equality groups, and various roleplayers.

Libertatem is many times more diverse than any leftist solidarity group. Yet only people who are focussed on a specific set of solidarity while hurting other people earn my wrath and ire.

Question of the Day:

Why are we attempting to forge new relationships with a region that has declared open hostilities on us? I am not interested in enjoying a cup of tea with V. Ming. If TTA is, that is his own prerogative, but I urge our government to maintain official hostilities with North Korea. Do not endorse these feeble attempts to "bring peace, dude" to North Korea. They have shown time and time again ferocity and hostility to our troops, TTA conceding that a state news source is a viable option should not be reason enough to sell our souls to the Red Koreans.

https://imgflip.com/i/dy2sm

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wrong account.

TTA's actions are not endorsed by the government.

The ironic thing is that if we did have a state controlled media in Libertatem, TTA would never be able to put his article up there. It would be "counter-revolutionary."

Humpheria wrote:Question of the Day:

Why are we attempting to forge new relationships with a region that has declared open hostilities on us? I am not interested in enjoying a cup of tea with V. Ming. If TTA is, that is his own prerogative, but I urge our government to maintain official hostilities with North Korea. Do not endorse these feeble attempts to "bring peace, dude" to North Korea. They have shown time and time again ferocity and hostility to our troops, TTA conceding that a state news source is a viable option should not be reason enough to sell our souls to the Red Koreans.

Hang on now. I'm not selling my dang soul to North Korea by stating she has a point. i'm just trying to make you realize that maybe these Commies and Socies have some backing behind them instead of being mindless idiots like you guys generally tell them.

Maybe you guys can learn something.

The Two Rules of Ideologies.

1. Support your Ideology.

2. Expand your Knowledge on others.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:wrong account.

TTA's actions are not endorsed by the government.

The ironic thing is that if we did have a state controlled media in Libertatem, TTA would never be able to put his article up there. It would be "counter-revolutionary."

I know they aren't. I'm never endorsed by the government. It's fun being the lil' revoltuionary guy.

I didn't say I supported...state...media- Is that the only thing y'all got out of that entire interview?

Anyone interested in NK should check out inside North Korea VICE travel. Neat stuff.

Muh Roads wrote:Anyone interested in NK should check out inside North Korea VICE travel. Neat stuff.

I did in fact watch an inside thing in 9th grade world events with two people traveling with an eye doctor to North Korea.

They were in fact able to get lots of interesting information. It seemed as if the people there are genuinely happy with the Kim Jongs. As if brainwashed in a way, but not out of fear, but out of indoctrination. It's quite interesting.

Also...is democracy really any good? Basically tyranny by the majority or Democracy by the few...

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:I did in fact watch an inside thing in 9th grade world events with two people traveling with an eye doctor to North Korea.

They were in fact able to get lots of interesting information. It seemed as if the people there are genuinely happy with the Kim Jongs. As if brainwashed in a way, but not out of fear, but out of indoctrination. It's quite interesting.

I am sure his approval ratings are sky high. After all, if you denied your people the exploitation that capitalism brings, wouldn't you be?

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:Also...is democracy really any good? Basically tyranny by the majority or Democracy by the few...

Pretty much. That's why I support constitutional sortition.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I am sure his approval ratings are sky high. After all, if you denied your people the exploitation that capitalism brings, wouldn't you be?

Well I mean he's like a cult leader; very few people dislike him in true Korea.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Pretty much. That's why I support constitutional sortition.

What's that?

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:Well I mean he's like a cult leader; very few people dislike him in true Korea.What's that?

Obviously. It's like 1984, you love Big Brother until you die.

Sortition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:Also...is democracy really any good? Basically tyranny by the majority or Democracy by the few...

So you are against democracy?

2 Questions that have nothing to do with the current debacle.

1. Who is the Chairman?

2. How long is the wait for returning Citizens? 10 Days?

First of all, NK (the real one) is not even genuinely communist. They simply use their control of the economy to further concentrate wealth in the hands of the ruling class. If anything, their ideology is closer to Japanese fascism of the 1930's, complete with racism and extreme social conservatism.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2010/02/a_nation_of_racist_dwarfs.html

And TTA, they execute citizens by firing squad for simple possession of pornography. Imagine what they would do to you with your... peculiar... tastes?

Funkytopia wrote:And TTA, they execute citizens by firing squad for simple possession of pornography. Imagine what they would do to you with your... peculiar... tastes?

^

Funkytopia wrote:And TTA, they execute citizens by firing squad for simple possession of pornography. Imagine what they would do to you with your... peculiar... tastes?

^

Humpheria wrote:2 Questions that have nothing to do with the current debacle.

1. Who is the Chairman?

2. How long is the wait for returning Citizens? 10 Days?

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Obviously. It's like 1984, you love Big Brother until you die.

Sortition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition

Well it's not Fear then, it's indoctrination and cult like leadership.

Hmm Okay.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:So you are against democracy?

No, but ever since I read Atlas Shrugged, I've been getting wary of it.

Humpheria wrote:2 Questions that have nothing to do with the current debacle.

1. Who is the Chairman?

2. How long is the wait for returning Citizens? 10 Days?

2. yes, unless the board allows you to skip time, like they did with me.

Funkytopia wrote:First of all, NK (the real one) is not even genuinely communist. They simply use their control of the economy to further concentrate wealth in the hands of the ruling class. If anything, their ideology is closer to Japanese fascism of the 1930's, complete with racism and extreme social conservatism.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2010/02/a_nation_of_racist_dwarfs.html

It's Jucheism. State Religious Varient of state Socialism

Funkytopia wrote:And TTA, they execute citizens by firing squad for simple possession of pornography. Imagine what they would do to you with your... peculiar... tastes?

Humpheria wrote:^

Right-Winged Nation wrote:^

...I have no idea what y'all are talking about actually...

Hmm... CI hasn't been on in 5 days

Humpheria wrote:Hmm... CI hasn't been on in 5 days

So?

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:It's Jucheism. State Religious Varient of state Socialism...I have no idea what y'all are talking about actually...

Reference to horses

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:So?

What if the Board was called to action in an emergency in the past 5 days?

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Reference to horses

...I don't like that stuff anymore,well I mean somewhat, but it's way too dangerous to even think of trying.

Much to dangerous for me to even consider it anymore...Plus...I had a personal Revelation, animals...aren't attractive.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:...I don't like that stuff anymore,well I mean somewhat, but it's way too dangerous to even think of trying.

Much to dangerous for me to even consider it anymore...Plus...I had a personal Revelation, animals...aren't attractive.

*looks out window at pancake flapping in the wind with "TTA" written on it*

Humpheria wrote:*looks out window at pancake flapping in the wind with "TTA" written on it*

I have no clue what this means...

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:I have no clue what this means...

https://imgflip.com/i/dy439

Humpheria wrote:Question of the Day:

Why are we attempting to forge new relationships with a region that has declared open hostilities on us? I am not interested in enjoying a cup of tea with V. Ming. If TTA is, that is his own prerogative, but I urge our government to maintain official hostilities with North Korea. Do not endorse these feeble attempts to "bring peace, dude" to North Korea. They have shown time and time again ferocity and hostility to our troops, TTA conceding that a state news source is a viable option should not be reason enough to sell our souls to the Red Koreans.

Seconded

Humpheria wrote:*looks out window at pancake flapping in the wind with "TTA" written on it*

...People change...I realized I was never attracted to said animal itself, but individual...parts of it...which I'd never go at, so...

Humph shut up and go back on Hiatus.

I'm still a Libertarian Economic Interventionist Non-Interventionist just like I was when you left.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:Humph shut up and go back on Hiatus.

If you say so, honey. [/sarcasm]

Humpheria wrote:If you say so, honey. [/sarcasm]

...

Lack There Of wrote:Seconded

shh...I know you hate change.

Why is Mien non exec?

I'm reconstructing the Democratic-Republican Party.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:I'm reconstructing the Democratic-Republican Party.

DERP

Democratic Equinian Republican Party

Humpheria wrote:DERP

Democratic Equinian Republican Party

...

No...

I tried that with the Equine Supremacy Party in CFN.

I used my made up ideology of Ponyism...didn't work well.

Humpheria wrote:Why is Mien non exec?

Because I thought it would be a good idea for now.

We just had a spy leave, and there's always Lib for when I need to do things.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:...shh...I know you hate change.

"Selectively conservative"

I was the freaking anti-warmovent here, then I opened my eyes. The end

Lack There Of wrote:"Selectively conservative"

I was the freaking anti-warmovent here, then I opened my eyes. The end

Eyes to what? The fact others disagreed and thus you had to wipe them off the map?

Lack There Of wrote:"Selectively conservative"

I was the freaking anti-warmovent here, then I opened my eyes. The end

Lack: Anti-war before it was cool. Pro-war when it was cool. I'm glad you woke up.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:Eyes to what? The fact others disagreed and thus you had to wipe them off the map?

The defense of Libertatem values against invasive Communist military forces.

Humpheria wrote:The defense of Libertatem values against Communist military forces.

Because we don't attack Communist Regional values for Libertarian Military Forces.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:Eyes to what? The fact others disagreed and thus you had to wipe them off the map?

That we are playing a game, and I love pissing off ignant shepples

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:Because we don't attack Communist Regional values for Libertarian Military Forces.

Who is the aggressor?

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:Both sides.

Then maybe you should consider mulling over the Libertatem, you know the place that you swore fealty to when you became a citizen, side of the argument rather than just the commie side.

Humpheria wrote:Then maybe you should consider mulling over the Libertatem, you know the place that you swore fealty to when you became a citizen, side of the argument rather than just the commie side.

I'm on niether side, bith are wring and both need to stop; however I can only change the Libertatem side and hope the Commies then follow suit.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:I'm on niether side, bith are wring and both need to stop; however I can only change the Libertatem side and hope the Commies then follow suit.

Lol

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:I'm on niether side, bith are wring and both need to stop; however I can only change the Libertatem side and hope the Commies then follow suit.

You don't get it do you? The Libertatem side is perfectly content and we don't want or need to change. You are making us weak. You are only hurting us more trying to get us to change. The commies won't.

Humpheria wrote:You don't get it do you? The Libertatem side is perfectly content and we don't want or need to change. You are making us weak. You are only hurting us more trying to get us to change. The commies won't.

The Communist Side is just as content. Peace isn't weakness.

Its an easy treaty.

Who are our main Communist Enemies?

We don't attack their allies or interfere in their raids.

They don't attack our allies or interfere in our raids.

I, again, urge our government to affirm its dedication to our founding principle, anti-Communism and anti-Communist evils and war crimes!

Humpheria wrote:I, again, urge our government to affirm its dedication to our founding principle, anti-Communism and anti-Communist evils and war crimes!

Dedication to Anti-Communist Evils and War crimes?

Reword that.

Humpheria wrote:I, again, urge our government to affirm its dedication to our founding principle, anti-Communism and anti-Communist evils and war crimes!

Hump for prez

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:Dedication to Anti-Communist Evils and War crimes?

Reword that.

"You made a grammatical error, therefore your entire argument is invalid. You're*

Humpheria wrote:"You made a grammatical error, therefore your entire argument is invalid. You're*

The way you said it sounded like you were dedicated to the evil side of Anti-Communism and war crimes.

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