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Humpheria wrote:http://libertatem.freeforums.net/thread/34/clerks-office?page=1&scrollTo=68

Well, looks like I need to appoint an Interior manager, at the very least.

Who wants that? You kinda have to be active, and since the guy who requested it last time I asked hasn't even been on since he said that he wanted it, I doubt he'll be active enough. Plus I'm not even sure if he's a citizen.

I apologize for the delay I forgot to do this but here goes:

Pursuant to the first article of amendment of the Constitution, it is the responsibility of the Regional Justice to "oversee, execute, and officiate the elections of all offices elected by the population". In this capacity, I hereby certify and announce the results of the first Presidential election as follows:

Miencraft (Not Affiliated)- 9 votes (75%)

Nova Condealism (Not Affiliated)- 1 vote (.08%)

Republic of Minerva (Not Affiliated)- 2 votes (17%)

[nation=short]Miencraft[/nation] has officially been elected President of the Second Republic of Libertatem. His term will (did) start on July 16, 2016. His term shall expire on November 16, 2016. Congratulations, Mr. President.

Humpheria

Regional Justice

Regional Court

Libertatem

New Jaslandia, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Humpheria wrote:November 16, 2016

Technically, the next Presidentials as defined in the Constitution would start on the 23rd.

Miencraft wrote:Well, looks like I need to appoint an Interior manager, at the very least.

Who wants that? You kinda have to be active, and since the guy who requested it last time I asked hasn't even been on since he said that he wanted it, I doubt he'll be active enough. Plus I'm not even sure if he's a citizen.

Im game

Post self-deleted by Miencraft.

I Ipian'd because I thought Patriots was someone else. Heh. No, sure, you'll be Interior.

Also, Humpy, I love your format for court orders. Just needs some nice stationery.

Humpheria

Humpheria wrote:

Nova Condealism (Not Affiliated)- 1 vote (.08%)

You would expect that to be Nova Condealism(the one vote)... but nooooope.

The United States Of Patriots wrote:You would expect that to be Nova Condealism(the one vote)... but nooooope.

Why would you expect the guy that outright said "vote for someone else" to vote for himself?

Nova Condealism

Miencraft wrote:I Ipian'd because I thought Patriots was someone else. Heh. No, sure, you'll be Interior.

Uh oh who did you think I was?

Also thank you

The United States Of Patriots wrote:Uh oh who did you think I was?

Also thank you

I mean, "someone else" as in I thought you were a Senator when you're not.

The United States Of Patriots

Miencraft wrote:Why would you expect the guy that outright said "vote for someone else" to vote for himself?

Thats the point. In an ordinary situation you wouldn't expect that.

Thanks, Mr. President.

You better like it or I'll make one for the citizens to bring me your head. On stationery. /kidding

Miencraft, The United States Of Patriots

Humpheria wrote:Thanks, Mr. President.

You better like it or I'll make one for the citizens to bring me your head. On stationery. /kidding

Kidding about the head part or the stationery part?

The most recent map update included claiming the remainder of Australia on behalf of Libertatem. This is intended to memorialize the service of President Pevvania, who owned that territory before the map was wiped when we introduced the Second Republic.

The United States Of Patriots

Has anyone been at war before on this? This is my first time being at war. Brasilistan is about to be destroyed.

Libertitad wrote:Has anyone been at war before on this? This is my first time being at war. Brasilistan is about to be destroyed.

I haven't I'm not even sure quite what it entails

It's labeled [A Series of International Evens]. It started with them taking my citizens who were tourists as hostages and putting them to work in diamond mines. I'm on Issue #3 now.

Libertitad wrote:It's labeled [A Series of International Evens]. It started with them taking my citizens who were tourists as hostages and putting them to work in diamond mines. I'm on Issue #3 now.

So it is RP'd completely in the forums or is there an in-game mechanic? Curious how it balances out.

Glad to announce that the new official census reports the following:

The population of Libertatem is currently eighty.

The citizenry is numbered at thirty-three. Thirty-one of which being active!

Disregarding the Founder there is only one inactive nation.

New Jaslandia, Rateria, Teuberland

Tobellya wrote:So it is RP'd completely in the forums or is there an in-game mechanic? Curious how it balances out.

All Issue based in game mechanic. I searched for an actual nation in the game called Brasilistan and it didn't find any. Its been a fun changeup from the other basic issues.

Rateria, Tobellya

The United States Of Patriots wrote:Glad to announce that the new official census reports the following:

The population of Libertatem is currently eighty.

The citizenry is numbered at thirty-three. Thirty-one of which being active!

Disregarding the Founder there is only one inactive nation.

If you don't mind me asking, how did you define 'inactive nation'?

The United States Of Patriots wrote:Glad to announce that the new official census reports the following:

The population of Libertatem is currently eighty.

The citizenry is numbered at thirty-three. Thirty-one of which being active!

Disregarding the Founder there is only one inactive nation.

What does the last question in your citizenship application even mean?

Humpheria wrote:Is it impossible to just efficiently conduct the business of the day without going into some tangent about oppression and closeted statists? Frankly, I'm a little surprised.

You shouldn't be. The court, the Constitution, everything about this is statist and oppressive.

Anyways, imma just keep on keepin on.

You guys should know all too well i bring ridiculousness to politics. Cept when i was president. Then i was pretty chill. *cough* over 200 nations strong *cough*

Muh Roads wrote:You guys should know all too well i bring ridiculousness to politics. Cept when i was president. Then i was pretty chill. *cough* over 200 nations strong *cough*

And as the great CI said "Roadsplaining".

Nova Condealism

Hey guys, just wanted everyone interested to know that the defense counsel alongside Muh Roads has made it's official statement and it is viewable. [url]http://libertatem.freeforums.net/thread/36/bad-libertopia-muh-roads?page=1&scrollTo=76[/url]

By the way guys, anyone who feels wronged and wants to litigate the hell out of Libertatem, and wants to petition, should visit my office on the forums, http://libertatem.freeforums.net/thread/41/office-solicitor-general-hyderbourg. Inspired by the office of New Jaslandia

The United States Of Patriots wrote:Glad to announce that the new official census reports the following:

The population of Libertatem is currently eighty.

The citizenry is numbered at thirty-three. Thirty-one of which being active!

Disregarding the Founder there is only one inactive nation.

Hey, how do we sign up for citizenship. I feel like I did that a long ways back, but I'm not on the list.

Thank you for your posting, Hyderbourg but is your office truly open to anyone or just to citizens?

We do not wish to become a citizen. We do not even want to be a nation. Nations have issues. Today our Council decided that our people should continue to hunt and fish as forage as we always have but then they were declared a "Corrupt Dictatorship" and it was reported we had a famine in our land. The newspapers lie.

We only wish to live on the plains as we always have, but much of our land has been painted yellow or purple and we fear that what remains will be painted by someone else.

Hi!

I'm not really sure what to do. What is the point of this game supposed to be?

Teuberland, Libertitad

Indigenous Libertatem wrote:Thank you for your posting, Hyderbourg but is your office truly open to anyone or just to citizens?

We do not wish to become a citizen. We do not even want to be a nation. Nations have issues. Today our Council decided that our people should continue to hunt and fish as forage as we always have but then they were declared a "Corrupt Dictatorship" and it was reported we had a famine in our land. The newspapers lie.

We only wish to live on the plains as we always have, but much of our land has been painted yellow or purple and we fear that what remains will be painted by someone else.

Well I can provide legal counsel to anybody, and I would be glad to consult with you, but by the regulations of Amendment I, I can only actually petition for and defend citizens of Libertatem.

Prideful Rainbow wrote:Hi!

I'm not really sure what to do. What is the point of this game supposed to be?

The core part of the game is running a country and answering issues to see how well or poorly your nation is ruled. Many issues are often satirical or have unusual outcomes. If you feel neither or none of the two, three, five choices work for you, you can dismiss them and come back later. The amount of issues you receive in a day can be adjusted by settings, or turned off altogether.

The second part of the game is regional politics and the World Assembly. The WA passes/repeals laws that "apply" to all members (really they don't). This part is fun for debate and gives you the opportunity to pass your own legislation. Meanwhile in regions, you receive the chance to participate as a comrade in your region by chatting with members over just about anything. Many regions have their own governments, such as this one. Others, like this one, have their own forums. WA members in a region elect a WA delegate that can endorse legislation to bring it to a vote in the WA.

Another aspect of regions is raiding/defending, where raiders endorse a WA nation to gain power over the region, having the opportunity to trash an unfortunate region's World Factbook Entry (the info box at the top), flag, suppress posts, and sometimes boot players from their own region. Defenders do the opposite, booting raiders. Additionally, some regions simply go to war in this manner (I believe Libertatem has/had a war on communism. It's been a while since I've checked.) This part of the gameplay can be very disrespectful to players and is akin to trolling and griefing.

FINALLY (I'm sure your eyes are sore), the game has a forum for chatting (such as TET), debating (tons of abortion debates, but also everything else under the sun), and especially role playing, from casual character rpgs, Fallout rpgs, colonization, wars, and much much more.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand on Halloween we've had a zombie apocalypse event where nations work to spread/kill of/cure a plague of zombies.

Aaaaaaaaaalssssso on April Fools the game has been known to have random incidents. One year there was a conservative/liberal flavor to the game where players could update the game view to have satirical conservative and liberal points of view; another we had bitcoins. So on.

Hope I helped.

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Tobellya

Prideful Rainbow wrote:Hi!

I'm not really sure what to do. What is the point of this game supposed to be?

https://www.nationstates.net/page=faq

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewforum.php?f=12

These may help. If you have any further questions please ask.

Thank you Hyderbourg for your generosity and your candor. We will not seek justice through your courts as the Bad Libertopia is doing, as the road to citizenship looks to us longer than the trail of tears through the lands of yellow and purple paint.

Pray to the Great Spirit for us that we may one day reach the only plains that are still left and find peace there.

Miencraft wrote:What does the last question in your citizenship application even mean?

I was planing on having the "abbreviation" colored to indicate active/inactive status. I opted instead for a vertical bar instead, as it is much simpler. I can remove the last question as it is irrelevant now.

New Jaslandia wrote:If you don't mind me asking, how did you define 'inactive nation'?

I don't mind :)

I used the deffinition found in A7§2 of our Constitution which reads:

For the purposes of ratification of this document and for all purposes thereafter until altered by Amendment, a Citizen is deemed active if their nation has been inactive for fewer than five consecutive days and their nation is located within Libertatem.

If anyone else has any questions Im happy to answer them

Teuberland wrote:Hey, how do we sign up for citizenship. I feel like I did that a long ways back, but I'm not on the list.

Well lets get it all sorted out now then.

All you need to do is copy the template found here(https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_united_states_of_patriots/detail=factbook/id=664588) in to a telegram, answer it, and send it my way

Teuberland

Who is an "active citizen" is critically important given that abstentions are counted as No's here.

Say you're in a club of 12 people and 6 show up and 4 want tacos and 2 want pizza. The group gets tacos, don't they? Here they would say, "Well, the 6 people who didn't show up, well, the majority didn't vote for us to get any kind of food."

Good luck with your job, USP! Hope you can sort out who's active and who's not and all that.

The United States Of Patriots, Tobellya

Castaway Island Of Wilson wrote:Who is an "active citizen" is critically important given that abstentions are counted as No's here.

Say you're in a club of 12 people and 6 show up and 4 want tacos and 2 want pizza. The group gets tacos, don't they? Here they would say, "Well, the 6 people who didn't show up, well, the majority didn't vote for us to get any kind of food."

Good luck with your job, USP! Hope you can sort out who's active and who's not and all that.

Thank you! Right now I'm just using the definition found in the Constitution namely A7§2. If that doesn't seem to be working we can see if a senator will sponsor a bill to adjust that

Prideful Rainbow wrote:Hi!

I'm not really sure what to do. What is the point of this game supposed to be?

To question who will build the roads

Rateria, Teuberland

Muh Roads wrote:To question who will build the roads

And who will supply the solar panels for our fancy clean green solarRoadways!

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Cross examination for Bad Libertopia v. Muh Roads is next in the trial.

Tobellya

Post self-deleted by Miencraft.

The United States Of Patriots wrote:Thank you! Right now I'm just using the definition found in the Constitution namely A7§2. If that doesn't seem to be working we can see if a senator will sponsor a bill to adjust that

"until altered by amendment".

A plain ol' bill won't cut it.

Humpheria wrote:Cross examination for Bad Libertopia v. Muh Roads is next in the trial.

It's like really slow daytime TV drama.

New Jaslandia, Humpheria, Rateria

Humpheria wrote:Cross examination for Bad Libertopia v. Muh Roads is next in the trial.

Really? How does one watch the proceedings?

The Ambassador To The Clfr wrote:Really? How does one watch the proceedings?

http://libertatem.freeforums.net/thread/36/bad-libertopia-muh-roads

Tobellya wrote:It's like really slow daytime TV drama.

I am the Judge Judy of Libertatem.

New Jaslandia, Rateria

The Ambassador To The Clfr wrote:Really? How does one http://www.nationstates.net/page=blank?puppet_managerwatch the proceedings?

The proceedings are viewable upon http://libertatem.freeforums.net/thread/36/bad-libertopia-muh-roads?page=1&scrollTo=76, right now the Defense Counsel is waiting upon cross examination questions from the Plaintiff's Counsel before we can publish our predetermined questions. Oh a quick request to New Jaslandia, please submit your questions in list format and bullet them alphabetically so they are easy to pinpoint and answer.

Muh Roads wrote:I'll show you some spine.... and gender.

Humpheria wrote:*schoolgirl giggle* Mr. Vice President!

What does everyone think about Gary Johnson? I really like Austin Petersen but I'm not a big fan of Johnson this year.

Muh Roads wrote:

How do you have the time to find this stuff? That was like a year and a half ago. (And totally out of context if any lawyers ask)

For those interested in the war going on. The Republic of Libertitad has won the war and now claim Brasilistan as their own.. ...

"Issue Series

“An International Incident”

The Story So Far

The problems in Brasilistan were mounting daily. So, when push came to shove, an advisor told you to just take it over. And you did.

The Issue

The dust has settled and, somehow, Libertitad is now the proud owner of a new colony! There are still some teething issues, however, and there are some cultural and societal conflicts between settlers and native peoples. It's up to you on how best to resolve these issues"

A great victory. We made the survivors of Brasilistan citizens of Libertitad and welcome them to our democracy.

Miencraft wrote:"until altered by amendment".

A plain ol' bill won't cut it.

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-32930-tobias-well-excuse-me-gif-Imgu-Lvqd.gif

p.s. all In good fun

Miencraft

Humpheria wrote:What does everyone think about Gary Johnson? I really like Austin Petersen but I'm not a big fan of Johnson this year.

I agree. I wish Austin got the nomination instead

Teuberland

Humpheria wrote:How do you have the time to find this stuff? That was like a year and a half ago. (And totally out of context if any lawyers ask)

I have an extremely vivid memory of oddly specific things. Search bar, it works.

Hey, does anyone around here have a nation set in the medieval/pre-industrial revolution era?

Considering Gary Johnson has the most fiscally conservative record of most governors, I think that's enough for me to vote for him. It's not like any other person is forwarding the FairTax.

Humpheria, Rateria, Teuberland, Salton Juncture, Nova Condealism

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Considering Gary Johnson has the most fiscally conservative record of most governors, I think that's enough for me to vote for him. It's not like any other person is forwarding the FairTax.

Tru

Teuberland wrote:Hey, does anyone around here have a nation set in the medieval/pre-industrial revolution era?

Wait, how does that even happen? Doesn't everyone start post-information age? Is it through RP on forums or an actual event chain? A-la accidental nuke.

Teuberland

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Considering Gary Johnson has the most fiscally conservative record of most governors, I think that's enough for me to vote for him. It's not like any other person is forwarding the FairTax.

I'm pro life and I justify voting for him because of Trump's anti-life stances with death penalty for cop killers and calling to take out the families of terrorists. Additionally, I don't expected the Gov to win, but to be an important tool in strengthening Libertarianism.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/12/10/donald-trump-wants-the-death-penalty-for-those-who-kill-police-officers/

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/02/politics/donald-trump-terrorists-families/

It's a dilemma. I certainly want to protect the lives of the unborn, but Trump calls for downfalls against the "culture of life" (did Petersen coin that?) that would lead to numerous deaths, and furthermore as president he would not have long to assert power, and Trump can unite democrats against him.

Kumquat Cove, Nova Condealism, Tobellya

Tobellya wrote:Wait, how does that even happen? Doesn't everyone start post-information age? Is it through RP on forums or an actual event chain? A-la accidental nuke.

Every nation is set in the present as per the core game, but a player could avert this by ignoring such modern issues exist, or work around them. One could allow public nudity with the backstory that it was an appeasement to pagans, or encouraged by a major faith/culture in the country (eg. Finns and their saunas). Another example would be a bow and arrow in place of gun for the assassination issue.

I'm thinking about creating two Teuberlands in a factbook entry. One in a medieval era (or at least post 1444 like EUIV) and another in the present. That would allow me to normally play in the present but also have an RP nation.

Miencraft, Rateria, Tobellya

Humpheria wrote:What does everyone think about Gary Johnson? I really like Austin Petersen but I'm not a big fan of Johnson this year.

I like them about the same except AP memes wayyy too hard. GJ is still the best choice I think just because he has less of hill to climb for relevance in the election.

Hey guys (especially New Jaslandia,Humpheria, and Muh Roads), the Defense Counsel has answered all questions provided by the Plaintiff and has presented it's own questions. The developments in the case can be found at libertatem.freeforums.net/thread/36/bad-libertopia-muh-roads.

Everyone sad about the imminent passing of the Humanitarian Aid Expansion Act shouldn't worry, we'll repeal the hell out of it. Good voter turnout though guys, we got Libertatem voting (0-9) Against. I also encourage anybody not in the World Assembly to join because then you'll be able to have the joy of constantly being ordered around by an international organization that does not understand that you have national rights or specific needs that differ from the other thousands of nations within it.

Hyderbourg wrote:Everyone sad about the imminent passing of the Humanitarian Aid Expansion Act shouldn't worry, we'll repeal the hell out of it. Good voter turnout though guys, we got Libertatem voting (0-9) Against. I also encourage anybody not in the World Assembly to join because then you'll be able to have the joy of constantly being ordered around by an international organization that does not understand that you have national rights or specific needs that differ from the other thousands of nations within it.

One of the most realistic things about this game, eh.

Miencraft, Rateria, Hyderbourg, The United States Of Patriots, Tobellya

Libertitad wrote:For those interested in the war going on. The Republic of Libertitad has won the war and now claim Brasilistan as their own.. ...

"Issue Series

“An International Incident”

The Story So Far

The problems in Brasilistan were mounting daily. So, when push came to shove, an advisor told you to just take it over. And you did.

The Issue

The dust has settled and, somehow, Libertitad is now the proud owner of a new colony! There are still some teething issues, however, and there are some cultural and societal conflicts between settlers and native peoples. It's up to you on how best to resolve these issues"

A great victory. We made the survivors of Brasilistan citizens of Libertitad and welcome them to our democracy.

Had this same issue series, the Brasilistani people were capturing my homies from Hyderbourg so we bombed military bases, assasinated leaders, and eventually insurgents. They finally surrendered and we just left them alone rather than "finishing them off" or "nuking them". I don't know, I just wanted the international community to know that no one gets away with killing Hyderbourgians.

Miencraft, New Jaslandia, Rateria, Libertitad

Hyderbourg wrote:Had this same issue series, the Brasilistani people were capturing my homies from Hyderbourg so we bombed military bases, assasinated leaders, and eventually insurgents. They finally surrendered and we just left them alone rather than "finishing them off" or "nuking them". I don't know, I just wanted the international community to know that no one gets away with killing Hyderbourgians.

I went the same route except for I wanted colonization and thought the people there would be ok with is since their old system enslaved them. One of the advisors throughout the series really pushed the nuking them.

I thought it turned out well for the most part but my income tax soared way too high.

New Jaslandia, Rateria, Hyderbourg

Libertitad wrote:I went the same route except for I wanted colonization and thought the people there would be ok with is since their old system enslaved them. One of the advisors throughout the series really pushed the nuking them.

I thought it turned out well for the most part but my income tax soared way too high.

Yeah, I deeply considered colonization but I tried to remind myself that this whole thing was to teach them a lesson, plus it seemed like it might've been kind of a burden. (Plus between you and I, I am working on a really cool factbook entry and it took me forever to calculate my total land mass and density (My country encompasses the original 13 Colonies) and I just felt like a colony would make me change all that ha)

New Jaslandia, Libertitad

Hyderbourg wrote:Hey guys (especially New Jaslandia,Humpheria, and Muh Roads), the Defense Counsel has answered all questions provided by the Plaintiff and has presented it's own questions. The developments in the case can be found at libertatem.freeforums.net/thread/36/bad-libertopia-muh-roads.

And it further unravels

Rateria, Hyderbourg

Hey guys can anyone help me get the shade of red I want in my factbook entry? I did {color=red}{/color} (Imagine they are square), but I dont really like the shade?

Hyderbourg wrote:Hey guys can anyone help me get the shade of red I want in my factbook entry? I did {color=red}{/color} (Imagine they are square), but I dont really like the shade?

Are you wanting text or the background colored?

The United States Of Patriots wrote:Are you wanting text or the background colored?

Text, the shade seems to bright

Hyderbourg wrote:Text, the shade seems to bright

I don't think you can use hexadecimal with text colors. perhaps try darkred or dark_red if that doesn't work I (which I don't think it will but it's worth a shot) I dont know what to tell you

Hyderbourg wrote:Text, the shade seems to bright

Just tested it darkred works

The United States Of Patriots wrote:Just tested it darkred works

woah okay thanks!

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Hyderbourg, after the trial im adding you to my list of spouses. Just fyi.

Muh Roads wrote:Hyderbourg, after the trial im adding you to my list of spouses. Just fyi.

ty, i signed up as solicitor general so that i could get "wifed" as many times as possible tbh

Muh Roads, Rateria

Teuberland was just ranked in the top 5% for nudest nation. Hooray comrades, rid yourself of the polyester oppressors!

New Jaslandia, Rateria, Salton Juncture

Is there any way to get out of the WA applying laws to my country automatically without leaving the assembly?

The Great Democratic Republic wrote:Is there any way to get out of the WA applying laws to my country automatically without leaving the assembly?

No. Either leave the WA or suffer their laws.

Rateria, Salton Juncture, Nova Condealism

The Great Democratic Republic wrote:Is there any way to get out of the WA applying laws to my country automatically without leaving the assembly?

Just don't follow the laws on your game issues. The WA is a form of roleplay, so it's up to you whether you're a WA nation.

Teuberland wrote:Just don't follow the laws on your game issues. The WA is a form of roleplay, so it's up to you whether you're a WA nation.

That wasn't the question though. If you're in the WA, their laws are always forcibly applied to your nation. The only way to stop that from happening is to leave the WA.

Nova Condealism

Well my states (Utah) delegation was just forced to vote for trump despite less than fourteen percent of the state GOP voted for him. They where forced to vote trump through an obscure party rule being interpreted weird. The GOP has gone full blown corrupt.

Republic Of Minerva, Rateria, Salton Juncture

What do you think of the "Protection of Partially Born" resolution that's being voted upon in the World Assembly?

Oh guys, as I think I mentioned before I have been working on this new overview of Hyderbourg and I might add stuff later on but I think I'm done and you guys should all check it out! http://www.nationstates.net/nation=hyderbourg/detail=factbook/id=main

beware of typos

Tobellya

Teuberland wrote:Just don't follow the laws on your game issues. The WA is a form of roleplay, so it's up to you whether you're a WA nation.

They do? Never heard that before.

Any of my boys The Aradites, Libertitad, or Nova Condealism wanna sponsor this?

The World Assembly Delegate Transparency Act (WADT)

Section I

Purpose of the Act

Subsection I

Ensure transparency and efficiency of the World Assembly Delegate to Libertatem

Subsection II

Establish official guidelines for the government of Libertatem, especially the Delegate, when handling World Assembly proposals and votes

Subsection III

Establish official guidelines for the government of Libertatem, especially the Delegate, when handling the sponsoring of proposals and the vote on proposals that have not met the floor of the World Assembly

Subsection IV

Establish conditions in which leave is granted to the World Assembly Delegate and consequences for not properly executing duties

Section II

Ensure Transparency and efficiency of the World Assembly Delegate to Libertatem

Subsection I

The citizen nation holding the most World Assembly Endorsements within Libertatem shall, henceforth, act as Libertatem’s official representative to the World Assembly, entrusted with the responsibility of voting on any and all World Assembly Legislation

Subsection II

The citizen nation acting as the World Assembly Delegate to Libertatem shall have a regional link to a factbook entry titled, “Office of the World Assembly Delegate to Libertatem”. Within this entry the Delegate must post his voting records and optionally the reason for voting a certain way. The Delegate is also obligated to post information in regard to the sponsoring of legislation and premature voting

Subsection III

The Regional Justice of Libertatem shall, henceforth, act as the Delegate’s World Assembly Adviser, helping the Delegate determine how to vote within the guidelines of all the Constitution and all amendments thereto

Section III

Establish official guidelines for the government of Libertatem, especially the Delegate, when handling World Assembly proposals and votes

Subsection I

The World Assembly Delegate shall vote on all World Assembly matters in a manner that is seen fit and extends the freedoms of member nations to the highest extent possible

Subsection II

Unless able to give valid reasoning to do otherwise, the World Assembly Delegate is always expected to vote to repeal previously enacted proposals and legislation

Subsection III

The World Assembly Delegate will have the permission to abstain from votes in which he feels appropriate or in which the Regional Justice feels it is appropriate

Section IV

Establish official guidelines for the government of Libertatem, especially the Delegate, when handling the sponsoring of proposals and the vote on proposals that have not met the floor of the World Assembly

Subsection I

The World Assembly Delegate may author proposals that have not arrived at the General Assembly that intend to increase the freedom of member nations

Subsection II

The World Assembly Delegate may seek proposals that have not arrived at the General Assembly that intend to increase the freedom of member nations

Section V

Establish conditions in which leave is granted to the World Assembly Delegate and consequences for not properly executing duties

Subsection II

If the World Assembly Delegate asks for temporary leave, such may be granted by the Regional Justice if deemed appropriate.

Subsection III

If leave is not granted nor requested and the World Assembly Delegate fails to vote upon legislation three times in a row, the Delegate may be charged criminally with “Negligence to Responsibilities” and “Failure to Represent”

Subsection IV

If leave is not granted nor requested and the World Assembly Delegate fails to post voting records, the Delegate may be charged criminally with “Negligence to Responsibilities”

Subsection V

If convicted by the Regional Justice, the World Assembly Delegate may be asked to step down by leaving and rejoining the World Assembly, leaving the World Assembly permanently, or in extreme cases leaving the region

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Salton Juncture, The Great Democratic Republic

The World Assembly Delegate Transparency Act (WADT)

Section I

Purpose of the Act

Subsection I

Ensure transparency and efficiency of the World Assembly Delegate to Libertatem

Subsection II

Establish official guidelines for the government of Libertatem, especially the Delegate, when handling World Assembly proposals and votes

Subsection III

Establish official guidelines for the government of Libertatem, especially the Delegate, when handling the sponsoring of proposals and the vote on proposals that have not met the floor of the World Assembly

Subsection IV

Establish conditions in which leave is granted to the World Assembly Delegate and consequences for not properly executing duties

Section II

Ensure Transparency and efficiency of the World Assembly Delegate to Libertatem

Subsection I

The citizen nation holding the most World Assembly Endorsements within Libertatem shall, henceforth, act as Libertatem’s official representative to the World Assembly, entrusted with the responsibility of voting on any and all World Assembly Legislation

Subsection II

The citizen nation acting as the World Assembly Delegate to Libertatem shall have a regional link to a factbook entry titled, “Office of the World Assembly Delegate to Libertatem”. Within this entry the Delegate must post his voting records and optionally the reason for voting a certain way. The Delegate is also obligated to post information in regard to the sponsoring of legislation and premature voting

Subsection III

The Regional Justice of Libertatem shall, henceforth, act as the Delegate’s World Assembly Adviser, helping the Delegate determine how to vote within the guidelines of all the Constitution and all amendments thereto

Section III

Establish official guidelines for the government of Libertatem, especially the Delegate, when handling World Assembly proposals and votes

Subsection I

The World Assembly Delegate shall vote on all World Assembly matters in a manner that is seen fit and extends the freedoms of member nations to the highest extent possible

Subsection II

Unless able to give valid reasoning to do otherwise, the World Assembly Delegate is always expected to vote to repeal previously enacted proposals and legislation

Subsection III

The World Assembly Delegate will have the permission to abstain from votes in which he feels appropriate or in which the Regional Justice feels it is appropriate

Section IV

Establish official guidelines for the government of Libertatem, especially the Delegate, when handling the sponsoring of proposals and the vote on proposals that have not met the floor of the World Assembly

Subsection I

The World Assembly Delegate may author proposals that have not arrived at the General Assembly that intend to increase the freedom of member nations

Subsection II

The World Assembly Delegate may seek proposals that have not arrived at the General Assembly that intend to increase the freedom of member nations

Section V

Establish conditions in which leave is granted to the World Assembly Delegate and consequences for not properly executing duties

Subsection II

If the World Assembly Delegate asks for temporary leave, such may be granted by the Regional Justice if deemed appropriate.

Subsection III

If leave is not granted nor requested and the World Assembly Delegate fails to vote upon legislation three times in a row, the Delegate may be charged criminally with “Negligence to Responsibilities” and “Failure to Represent”

Subsection IV

If leave is not granted nor requested and the World Assembly Delegate fails to post voting records, the Delegate may be charged criminally with “Negligence to Responsibilities”

Subsection V

If convicted by the Regional Justice, the World Assembly Delegate may be asked to step down by leaving and rejoining the World Assembly, leaving the World Assembly permanently, or in extreme cases leaving the region

I hereby bring forth this bill to vote.

Rateria, Hyderbourg, The United States Of Patriots, Salton Juncture

Hyderbourg wrote:Any of my boys The Aradites, Libertitad, or Nova Condealism wanna sponsor this?

The World Assembly Delegate Transparency Act (WADT)

Section I

Purpose of the Act

Subsection I

Ensure transparency and efficiency of the World Assembly Delegate to Libertatem

Subsection II

Establish official guidelines for the government of Libertatem, especially the Delegate, when handling World Assembly proposals and votes

Subsection III

Establish official guidelines for the government of Libertatem, especially the Delegate, when handling the sponsoring of proposals and the vote on proposals that have not met the floor of the World Assembly

Subsection IV

Establish conditions in which leave is granted to the World Assembly Delegate and consequences for not properly executing duties

Section II

Ensure Transparency and efficiency of the World Assembly Delegate to Libertatem

Subsection I

The citizen nation holding the most World Assembly Endorsements within Libertatem shall, henceforth, act as Libertatem’s official representative to the World Assembly, entrusted with the responsibility of voting on any and all World Assembly Legislation

Subsection II

The citizen nation acting as the World Assembly Delegate to Libertatem shall have a regional link to a factbook entry titled, “Office of the World Assembly Delegate to Libertatem”. Within this entry the Delegate must post his voting records and optionally the reason for voting a certain way. The Delegate is also obligated to post information in regard to the sponsoring of legislation and premature voting

Subsection III

The Regional Justice of Libertatem shall, henceforth, act as the Delegate’s World Assembly Adviser, helping the Delegate determine how to vote within the guidelines of all the Constitution and all amendments thereto

Section III

Establish official guidelines for the government of Libertatem, especially the Delegate, when handling World Assembly proposals and votes

Subsection I

The World Assembly Delegate shall vote on all World Assembly matters in a manner that is seen fit and extends the freedoms of member nations to the highest extent possible

Subsection II

Unless able to give valid reasoning to do otherwise, the World Assembly Delegate is always expected to vote to repeal previously enacted proposals and legislation

Subsection III

The World Assembly Delegate will have the permission to abstain from votes in which he feels appropriate or in which the Regional Justice feels it is appropriate

Section IV

Establish official guidelines for the government of Libertatem, especially the Delegate, when handling the sponsoring of proposals and the vote on proposals that have not met the floor of the World Assembly

Subsection I

The World Assembly Delegate may author proposals that have not arrived at the General Assembly that intend to increase the freedom of member nations

Subsection II

The World Assembly Delegate may seek proposals that have not arrived at the General Assembly that intend to increase the freedom of member nations

Section V

Establish conditions in which leave is granted to the World Assembly Delegate and consequences for not properly executing duties

Subsection II

If the World Assembly Delegate asks for temporary leave, such may be granted by the Regional Justice if deemed appropriate.

Subsection III

If leave is not granted nor requested and the World Assembly Delegate fails to vote upon legislation three times in a row, the Delegate may be charged criminally with “Negligence to Responsibilities” and “Failure to Represent”

Subsection IV

If leave is not granted nor requested and the World Assembly Delegate fails to post voting records, the Delegate may be charged criminally with “Negligence to Responsibilities”

Subsection V

If convicted by the Regional Justice, the World Assembly Delegate may be asked to step down by leaving and rejoining the World Assembly, leaving the World Assembly permanently, or in extreme cases leaving the region

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Rateria, Hyderbourg

Hyderbourg wrote:Any of my boys The Aradites, Libertitad, or Nova Condealism wanna sponsor this?

1) You should post that in a factbook.

2) I don't personally understand why we would ever need something like this. As a region, we're largely anti-WA, and the WAD has 0 official capacity in the government. The World Assembly was completely ignored in our writing of the second Constitution for good reason, and I personally think it should stay that way. The World Assembly has no place in our government and we should not be wasting our time treating it like it belongs here.

Muh Roads

Also, this proposed bill has all the same problems the WAR act had. It removed all personal choice from the Delegate and basically made him nothing more than a figurehead and a way to push the agenda of the government. No matter how much I agree with Libertatem's fundamentals, that is absolutely unacceptable.

Rateria, Nova Condealism

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Miencraft wrote:1) You should post that in a factbook.

2) I don't personally understand why we would ever need something like this. As a region, we're largely anti-WA, and the WAD has 0 official capacity in the government. The World Assembly was completely ignored in our writing of the second Constitution for good reason, and I personally think it should stay that way. The World Assembly has no place in our government and we should not be wasting our time treating it like it belongs here.

1)sorry?

2) The World Assembly Delegate has no capacity? They vote on resolutions that affect ALL member nations, which is almost half of our citizen count if I remember correctly. They can author and push legislation that can completely change the dynamic of a member nation. Like the current legislation that just passed that allowed all kinds of intrusive behavior upon half of the citizens of Libertatem, the delegate can actually do something to change that. Is that not capacity?

Miencraft wrote:It removed all personal choice from the Delegate and basically made him nothing more than a figurehead

"Unless able to give valid reasoning to do otherwise, the World Assembly Delegate is always expected to vote to repeal previously enacted proposals and legislation"

If the delegate sees a good reason not to repeal, he can provide that reason and vote any way he wishes. If he cannot provide a good reason then obviously we are better off repealing.

"The World Assembly Delegate may author proposals that have not arrived at the General Assembly that intend to increase the freedom of member nations"

That moment when you apparently have no personal choice but you can literally [B]author[/B] (yes author, meaning write!) legislation.

I understand where edits can be made, but there is merit to legislation like this.

The Great Democratic Republic

Hyderbourg wrote:1)sorry?

That bill you posted here. It should be put in a factbook.

Hyderbourg wrote:2) The World Assembly Delegate has no capacity? They vote on resolutions that affect ALL member nations, which is almost half of our citizen count if I remember correctly. They can author and push legislation that can completely change the dynamic of a member nation. Like the current legislation that just passed that allowed all kinds of intrusive behavior upon half of the citizens of Libertatem, the delegate can actually do something to change that. Is that not capacity?

No, it isn't. The Constitution was not written to care about the WAD. He has no power in our government, nor should he. Like I said, there is a reason we didn't write the WAD into the Constitution this time. The World Assembly is inherently oppressive and giving the WAD official, government recognition goes against the core values of Libertatme.

Hyderbourg wrote:That moment when you apparently have no personal choice but you can literally [B]author[/B] (yes author, meaning write!) legislation.

What? I think you missed my point.

Hyderbourg wrote:"Unless able to give valid reasoning to do otherwise, the World Assembly Delegate is always expected to vote to repeal previously enacted proposals and legislation"

If the delegate sees a good reason not to repeal, he can provide that reason and vote any way he wishes. If he cannot provide a good reason then obviously we are better off repealing.

That's pretty much what WAR did. Repeal everything unless there's some strategic interest in not doing so.

Hyderbourg wrote:I understand where edits can be made, but there is merit to legislation like this.

There really isn't. The World Assembly has no place in Libertatem. If people want to be members, that's fine. If they want to install a Delegate, that's fine. But the Delegate has no Constitutional authority and is a member of an organization inherently opposite to the ideology of this region. And we really shouldn't be dragging the RJ into it. We separated the Presidency and Delegacy for a reason, and there is no reason to legitimize the WA in the Second Republic. We made that mistake before.

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Miencraft wrote:

There really isn't. The World Assembly has no place in Libertatem. If people want to be members, that's fine. If they want to install a Delegate, that's fine. But the Delegate has no Constitutional authority and is a member of an organization inherently opposite to the ideology of this region.

The ideology of this region is small government, large personal freedom. How does making the WAD report his representation of the region and requiring him to vote to repeal legislation in most cases make his position contrary to that ideology? It seems to me like that would help out those in our region who are part of the world stage of policy and politics. I don't understand how that gives him dangerous power.

Libertitad

The Great Democratic Republic wrote:The ideology of this region is small government, large personal freedom. How does making the WAD report his representation of the region and requiring him to vote to repeal legislation in most cases make his position contrary to that ideology? It seems to me like that would help out those in our region who are part of the world stage of policy and politics. I don't understand how that gives him dangerous power.

Because we dont recognize the WAD as anything but a citizen.

Miencraft, Humpheria, The Ambassador To The Clfr, Rateria, Salton Juncture, Nova Condealism

The Great Democratic Republic wrote:The ideology of this region is small government, large personal freedom. How does making the WAD report his representation of the region and requiring him to vote to repeal legislation in most cases make his position contrary to that ideology? It seems to me like that would help out those in our region who are part of the world stage of policy and politics. I don't understand how that gives him dangerous power.

The World Assembly as a whole is contrary to our fundamental ideologies, and legitimizing it is dangerous in the long run. What we should be encouraging instead of this is that our nations do not participate in the WA, but if they really want to, they're free to do so without any government regulation on our part. They get enough of that from the WA.

Nova Condealism

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