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Region: Libertatem

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Hallo Island wrote:Yes, I can keep composure. My departure was a event which was a result of some personal circumstances that I would not like to disclose. Also, I would like to begin to recruit more nations and encourage them to create their own parties and run for government.

So you would use your office to work against a political party. What legal basis do you have to use public office for partisan party politics? There aren't democratic Senators that campaign on using their office to bring in people to fight the Republican party. I, for one, don't think that partisanship should be the motive of one to run for office.

The Amarican Empire wrote:The Minority could also merge into one party to put all those separate Daggers into one large sword.

MPA.

Humpheria wrote:So you would use your office to work against a political party. What legal basis do you have to use public office for partisan party politics? There aren't democratic Senators that campaign on using their office to bring in people to fight the Republican party. I, for one, don't think that partisanship should be the motive of one to run for office.

The goal is not to take down a party, but to run the region to the best of your abilities.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:The goal is not to take down a party, but to run the region to the best of your abilities.

Yeah, that's the point of my rant. Thanks for telling me.

Is that what you are trying to do Hallo?

Right-Winged Nation wrote:What do you have against the RLP?

I have nothing against it. I just feel like it has a little more power than it needs, and it is difficult for other parties to thrive. RWN, what experience do you have in government?

My idea was that if the minority merged then they could boost their popularity. We have tons of one man parties. If a merge were to happen it would attract more people. If 2 people are throwing a party which would you go to, the one with tons of people, or one with a single person sitting at home and eating potato chips.

The difficult task would be getting everyone to assemble as one party with no problems. Humpheria, my motive is not taking down the RLP. Read some of my posts and try to form a competent rebuttal, ok?

Right-Winged Nation wrote:The goal is not to take down a party, but to run the region to the best of your abilities.

While he may have the interests in mind, running for public office on the premise of using your power to bring in immigrants to vote against the majority isn't stellar in my opinion.

Hallo Island wrote:I have nothing against it. I just feel like it has a little more power than it needs, and it is difficult for other parties to thrive. RWN, what experience do you have in government?

The RLP is not some sort of self-serving foreign entity, out to grab as much power as possible. Do not base your campaign on that false assumption.

The people in the RLP are working for Libertatem, not for their party. If the RLP and all parties disappeared, nothing in this region would change, I am sure.

The New United States wrote:The RLP is not some sort of self-serving foreign entity, out to grab as much power as possible. Do not base your campaign on that false assumption.

The people in the RLP are working for Libertatem, not for their party. If the RLP and all parties disappeared, nothing in this region would change, I am sure.

Well, I'm an idealist, a new face. I have not yet had the pleasure to serve in office. Unless I'm mistaken, neither have you, regardless of your tries.

Humpheria wrote:While he may have the interests in mind, running for public office on the premise of using your power to bring in immigrants to vote against the majority isn't stellar in my opinion.

I agree

Hallo Island wrote:The difficult task would be getting everyone to assemble as one party with no problems. Humpheria, my motive is not taking down the RLP. Read some of my posts and try to form a competent rebuttal, ok?

How, may I ask, would you "give the minorities a chance" without first depleting the influence of the majority. I'm just failing to see how you can force the minority parties more power without doing something like restricting the RLP or forcing the minorities to run? Read some of my posts and try not to be a condescending "clever" heckler, ok? You're the one running, not me.

Well, at least I am active and have a grasp of the laws and politics of the region.

Hallo Island wrote:Well, at least I am active and have a grasp of the laws and politics of the region.

This is true.

Hallo Island wrote:Well, at least I am active and have a grasp of the laws and politics of the region.

Hallo, why do you think that minority parties don't have a chance?

Have you seen any of them in a major office? No, you haven't.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Hallo, why do you think that minority parties don't have a chance?

If there was a large majority that supported another party that wasn't the RLP, then it would be the minority. The RLP is just what the majority supports

Hallo Island wrote:Have you seen any of them in a major office? No, you haven't.

We have fair elections that are based on what principles of the nation is, not the nation's political affiliation in Libertatem

RWN, how often are you online? How knowledgeable are you on our laws?

Hallo Island wrote:RWN, how often are you online? How knowledgeable are you on our laws?

I am online pretty often, I find myself pretty knowledgeable on laws of Libertatem.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Hallo, why do you think that minority parties don't have a chance?

I am not hallo but I will answer this. The minority parties can only win if the RLP chooses to not support its candidate.

The Amarican Empire wrote:I am not hallo but I will answer this. The minority parties can only win if the RLP chooses to not support its candidate.

The party doesn't have that much sway. I have voted outside of the RLP before. If the people agreed with the minority candidate, they would vote for them.

The Amarican Empire wrote:I am not hallo but I will answer this. The minority parties can only win if the RLP chooses to not support its candidate.

You can't blame the party, you have to take a candidate and look at what platform he runs on and what he stands for. People of all parties must be knowledgeable, and you can't blame the RLP for "minority parties" for not having power.

Yup, the party with 7 out of the 10 major government seat doesn't have that much sway.

Hallo Island wrote:Yup, the party with 7 out of the 10 major government seat doesn't have that much sway.

No one is arguing that the RLP doesn't have power. I'm simply pointing out the RLP has said power because the people voted for them. The people gave them that power. I don't see why it is such a difficult concept. The RLP didn't just show up and take over, all of the "evil" things you claim they do, the people did. The people gave them those seven seats, the people made them a majority, and if the people want them to die, the people will kill them. Now, can we make this race one of substance or would you like to continue babbling about something this office has no control over?

On an unrelated note, I have another part to my campaign, the Libertatem Radio.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:On an unrelated note, I have another part to my campaign, the Libertatem Radio.

What about it?

Humpheria wrote:What about it?

I would like to make it to where what plays on the radio changes more often and that the people of Libertatem could select songs of their choice to put on it.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:I would like to make it to where what plays on the radio changes more often and that the people of Libertatem could select songs of their choice to put on it.

Interesting idea. Anyway, good night Libertatem.

I will retire as well, good night

Right-Winged Nation wrote:On an unrelated note, I have another part to my campaign, the Libertatem Radio.

Well, you will have to base your campaign off of more than changing the radio more often. Maybe you should talk about political policies here, because you have done none of that.

Hallo Island wrote:Well, you will have to base your campaign off of more than changing the radio more often. Maybe you should talk about political policies here, because you have done none of that.

I believe I have, I have stated my goal would be to protect the region from raiding and to ensure that Libertatem still stays the powerful and great region it still is today.

Speaking of radio, we could use some different music.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:I believe I have, I have stated my goal would be to protect the region from raiding and to ensure that Libertatem still stays the powerful and great region it still is today.

Ok, protecting the region and keeping Libertatem are things everyone here wants. Now you have to be more specific, and tell us original ideas about how to do these things.

Hallo Island wrote:Well, you will have to base your campaign off of more than changing the radio more often. Maybe you should talk about political policies here, because you have done none of that.

I believe he has Radio Free Libertatem as a side project, I don't think he is running his campaign on just a radio.

Well, he needs an actual platform.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Speaking of radio, we could use some different music.

I do agree. Pev's 80s pop is groovy and all, but we need a tad more variety.

Also, RWN, a raid on us is nearly impossible since we are rather large and have an active founder. You would know that if you had any knowledge of the R and D gameplay of NS.

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Hallo Island wrote:Also, RWN, a raid on us is nearly impossible since we are rather large and have an active founder. You would know that if you had any knowledge of the R and D gameplay of NS.

Remember that nation that tried to use his puppet nation and have other nations come here and begin war? That is what I want to prevent

Right-Winged Nation wrote:I want to review all legislation and repeal laws that you find unfair or oppressive and you have an idea about reforming the APPEAL Act making it more sensible. Hallo, can you name me three points of your campaign that don't involve taking down the RLP?

that

Hallo Island wrote:Well, he needs an actual platform.

I do, and you're platform is trying to take down the RLP.

There was a typo in my comment above, I do apologize.

None of them involve taking down the RLP. I want to strengthen REATO, Unify minor parties, not as one, but just more tightly knit, and Defend our allies that are being invaded, seemingly more and more frequently.

Hallo Island wrote:None of them involve taking down the RLP. I want to strengthen REATO, [B]Unify minor parties, not as one, but just more tightly knit[/B], and Defend our allies that are being invaded, seemingly more and more frequently.

The bolded really has nothing to do with being a Board-member, so it appears that you both have a military-centric platform.

Hallo Island wrote:None of them involve taking down the RLP. I want to strengthen REATO, Unify minor parties, not as one, but just more tightly knit, and Defend our allies that are being invaded, seemingly more and more frequently.

1 and 3 are the same as REATO is a defensive org. But the Board has no power over it, it is not a Libertatem organization.

How would a Board member be able to do that? That isn't in the job outline in the Laws.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:There was a typo in my comment above, I do apologize.

I want to review all legislation and repeal laws that you find unfair or oppressive and I have an idea about reforming the APPEAL Act making it more sensible. I also wish to strengthen REATO and defend our allies. Exactly how do you plan to unify minor parties?

Hallo Island wrote:I do agree. Pev's 80s pop is groovy and all, but we need a tad more variety.

I call for some 70s easy listening music, starting with "You Are The Woman" by Firefall.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:I call for some 70s easy listening music, starting with "You Are The Woman" by Firefall.

We could play floyd, the stones, the beatles, cream, hendrix, zeppelin, stuff like that.

The radio is a side project I am working on in my campaign.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:We could play floyd, the stones, the beatles, cream, hendrix, zeppelin, stuff like that.

Gorgeous selections.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:We could play floyd, the stones, the beatles, cream, hendrix, zeppelin, stuff like that.

Or better yet, we could play ear worms and guilty pleasures. Ricky Martin's "Livin' La Vida Loca" would be a good candidate, and don't get me started on Rick Astley...

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Ankha wrote:Gorgeous selections.

Somehow I knew you would approve

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Or better yet, we could play ear worms and guilty pleasures. Ricky Martin's "Livin' La Vida Loca" would be a good candidate, and don't get me started on Rick Astley...

NO. *passive agressive fit*

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Somehow I knew you would approve

Psycic! Hes a witch, throw him in the lake with cement ties to his leg. If he floats, hes innocent.

Ankha wrote:NO. *passive agressive fit*Psycic! Hes a witch, throw him in the lake with cement ties to his leg. If he floats, hes innocent.

No, if I float I am guilty. If I don't, then I am innocent.

I think one of the main problems that opposition parties face right now is that they have no clear legislative agenda. Every bill this administration has introduced to the region has passed with wide cross-partisan support.

I love how the Vice President debates me on my campaign more than the person I am running against.

The first article in the Gazette to ever be unrelated to the workings of the region as a whole has just been published.

I hope this encourages more activity in the realm of newspaper-ness.

I'm on my iPad, can you post it here?

I'm drafting an amendment to Section IV of the APPEAL Act. I'm thinking one of two things: either the Board will act as the Court of Appeal, with a unanimous or 4-1 verdict being required to accept or reject an appeal, OR we could have 3 randomly selected appeal judges for each appeal case, in which case a unanimous verdict would be needed. What do you guys think? I'm leaning towards the Board doubling as the Court of Appeal.

Hallo Island wrote:I'm on my iPad, can you post it here?

Last night, President Scriptorium was rushed to Strikilixov Nostriv Hospital in Ravenshor and admitted immediately to the Intensive Care Unit. The bodyguards who brought him to the hospital told staff that he was experiencing severe flu-like symptoms and intense abdominal pain. Doctors in the ICU started testing the President soon after his arrival, with many suspecting a very deadly poison known as Throminis-3A (T3A), a volatile chemical compound that has all the properties of regular water when kept at room temperature and at a neutral pH balance. When exposed to acidic environments, however, T3A becomes highly toxic. The majority of the danger from this poison comes from its tendency to be treated by the body as water, being absorbed after digestion and distributed throughout the body. Combined with the fact that it becomes irreversibly toxic when exposed to such substances as gastric acid, its water-like properties make it incredibly dangerous when ingested. If T3A reaches the lungs, heart, or brain, it will nearly always lead to eventual death. Doctors have begun procedures to purge President Scriptorium's body of the substance, if it is present, although tests for its presence will not be available to them until later today. Vice-president Ralof Luirmes was initiated as Interim President during a visit to Scriptorium before operations began, and has declined to comment on the situation.

Mere hours later, various high-ranking statesmen of President Scriptorium's political party were also admitted to hospital, experiencing the same symptoms. Officials believe some person or group is attempting to remove the Freedom Party from influence, and are currently undergoing investigations to find any and all potential assassins and methods by which the President and other officials could have received poison, including if these officials had any guards that declined to fulfill their obligations. A spokesperson for President Scriptorium declared that all those responsible for the attempted mass-murder of Freedom Party officials will be persecuted to the fullest extent of the law once they are captured.

If this is indeed an assassination attempt, it will be the first time anyone has ever tried to slay a Miencraftic leader since Alexander Vistrimi's botched 1935 attempt on the life of Emperor Xteris, who died 18 years later anyways and was succeeded by Ariera II.

What if we established a second region that was kept pw protected at all times and used it as a court room. That way the RMB wouldn't have to be closed down and there would be no fear of unwanted intrusions. The AG could act as custodian to it. Give it a catchy name like "Court Room A" and we're in business.

The Purge is stupid and absurdly unrealistic. I find it highly misanthropic to assume everyone would kill each other if the government stopped functioning as the enforcer of justice. You know what I think would happen? Nothing. Maybe much higher crime than normal, but things would not degrade to the point of warfare.

Lack There Of wrote:What if we established a second region that was kept pw protected at all times and used it as a court room. That way the RMB wouldn't have to be closed down and there would be no fear of unwanted intrusions. The AG could act as custodian to it. Give it a catchy name like "Court Room A" and we're in business.

Not a bad idea.

The Liberty Gazette's first article documents the election of Miencraft back in November. Those were the days.

Dark Horse rising?

Galacticorp, 7th January 2014

Originally published the 11th of November, 2013.

On November 9th, the President announced the results of a two-day election for Seat 4 of the Board. In the running was a crowded list of candidates, some experienced and loyal, others fresh and well-meaning. The tight and controversial race resulted in victory for on-again, off-again long-term citizen Miencraft claiming victory.

"Whew, that was close!" the independent remarked afterwards.

"I'd like to thank everyone who voted for anyone at all in this, that's a service right there."

His quirky, laid-back character brought him grass-roots support for his campaign. But despite his charisma, he does have significant policy experience that could help his career. He has served on the Board previously, with a short but consistent voting record - he voted against the 'Puppet Request', calling it "invasive", voted for the FREE Act and voted for the IDA Treaty.

What does this say about his political positions? Well, he's certainly a libertarian. He favours minarchism more than anything, and reportedly called the PATRIOT Act "idiotic." He's pro-internationalist and pro-legislative reform, meaning he'll likely gel with the policies of President Pevvania.

Perhaps we'll get more insight into this dark horse when the President's next reform bill comes around. Until then, he's mysterious as ever.

Pevvania wrote:The Liberty Gazette's first article documents the election of Miencraft back in November. Those were the days.

That was, what, first month or two after I got back from CTE?

Something like that.

Good times.

In completely unrelated news, I managed to 100% deathmod Skyrim.

If a loading screen comes up while in-game, the game crashes.

Fun.

Pevvania wrote:Not a bad idea.

Muh ideas are never bad

So, can I get some opinions on my idea for a Court of Appeal?

Pevvania wrote:So, can I get some opinions on my idea for a Court of Appeal?

I like the random judges option.

But maybe choose 5 instead of 3, since the other option is the Board, which has of course 5 people.

Granted we'd need to have a lot more active citizens to do something like that, but other than that...

Miencraft wrote:I like the random judges option.

I think the Board also being the Court of Appeal would be more convenient and democratic. It would also have some historical precedent. For centuries, Britain's higher legislative chamber the House of Lords also acted as the country's judiciary, up until 2009 when the Supreme Court was created.

I feel like our requirements for citizenship drive immigrants away. Nobody wants to wait 10 days until they can do anything.

Hallo Island wrote:I feel like our requirements for citizenship drive immigrants away. Nobody wants to wait 10 days until they can do anything.

I disagree. Most large and civilised regions have citizenship requirements, and ours are comparatively light. Residents can do plenty here, the only things they need citizenship for is voting in elections and standing in elections, along with joining the army.

Which is the entirety of our regional affairs.

Pevvania wrote:I disagree. Most large and civilised regions have citizenship requirements, and ours are comparatively light. Residents can do plenty here, the only things they need citizenship for is voting in elections and standing in elections, along with joining the army.

Also it's sort of an unofficial requirement for being on the map, but it makes sense when you think about it.

Hallo Island wrote:Which is the entirety of our regional affairs.

Nope, they can still vote on legislation.

Oh, speaking of citizenship, Hallo, since you have yours back, would you like your old spot on the map back?

Yo, I got the United Kingdom on the map

Hallo Island wrote:Yo, I got the United Kingdom on the map

Aye, but as you can see it was revoked when your citizenship was removed.

I'll just go color it back in again.

Also, from now on, if a color is too similar to one that already exists on the map (basically, if it's classified as the same color. I don't care about how much darker it is, it's too similar), I will not attempt to map with that color. The map file needs to be saved as an 8-bit PNG with 0 dithering in order to be small enough to remain PNG when run through imgur. This means that if two colors are too similar to each other, they will both appear to be the same color. So, basically, you can't use blue, teal, yellow, pink, brown, purple, gray, or orange. Everything else is still free game. I'll still use moderate greens, even though we have 3 green countries right about now.

Policy aside, in this election we are choosing between candidate A who has been largely inactive sense the last regional controversy he was involved in and candidate B who renounced his citizenship less than a week ago. This is a tough one

Pevvania wrote:I'm drafting an amendment to Section IV of the APPEAL Act. I'm thinking one of two things: either the Board will act as the Court of Appeal, with a unanimous or 4-1 verdict being required to accept or reject an appeal, OR we could have 3 randomly selected appeal judges for each appeal case, in which case a unanimous verdict would be needed. What do you guys think? I'm leaning towards the Board doubling as the Court of Appeal.

As much as I hate the idea of elected judiciaries, the board would be the most reasonable and pragmatic choice for our purposes.

What do you guys think of the concept of demarchy? As in, randomly selected leaders?

Since the goals of both candidates are the same and I see hallo as the more active one he will receive my vote.

Pevvania wrote:What do you guys think of the concept of demarchy? As in, randomly selected leaders?

GK Chesterton wrote a great book on the subject. "The Napoleon on Knotting hill" I believe

Manager Roads, could you put my citizenship up?

Pevvania wrote:The Purge is stupid and absurdly unrealistic. I find it highly misanthropic to assume everyone would kill each other if the government stopped functioning as the enforcer of justice. You know what I think would happen? Nothing. Maybe much higher crime than normal, but things would not degrade to the point of warfare.

Personally, I wouldn't kill anyone. Honestly, I would probably use the purge for a free meal, but the purge happening in actual society can never happen.

Quick question before I go.

To rephrase a question I've asked on Somalia: an-caps, how would you turn Somalia into a prosperous free market country? Anarcho-capitalists usually believe in the "controlled demolition" of the state, a gradual disestablishment to allow for voluntary institutions to take its place. Somalia has been an "uncontrolled demolition", so the Communist government has been replaced by smaller tyrannical regimes, warlords and pirates. What would the anarchist solution be to helping Somalia? Would it be to form a state in order to create the necessary conditions for anarcho-capitalism (i.e. so that central government policy can be directed in a pro-free market, anti-crime direction as a transitionary model) or would it be to organise for several voluntary groups and companies to improve the country and its economy?

Liberosia should totally get himself a spot on the map.

Also, I'm off to do stuff, back later.

Pevvania wrote:Quick question before I go.

To rephrase a question I've asked on Somalia: an-caps, how would you turn Somalia into a prosperous free market country? Anarcho-capitalists usually believe in the "controlled demolition" of the state, a gradual disestablishment to allow for voluntary institutions to take its place. Somalia has been an "uncontrolled demolition", so the Communist government has been replaced by smaller tyrannical regimes, warlords and pirates. What would the anarchist solution be to helping Somalia? Would it be to form a state in order to create the necessary conditions for anarcho-capitalism (i.e. so that central government policy can be directed in a pro-free market, anti-crime direction as a transitionary model) or would it be to organise for several voluntary groups and companies to improve the country and its economy?

First you would have to attack crime in Somalia, it is basically anarchy ran by pirates and warlords. Assistance from another country would be needed to get rid of it. Once this happens, the long process of creating a new government would begin. We do have volunteer groups who go on missions to try to better the conditions of Somalia, I do think that you could introduce companies into Somalia and begin economic growth. Somailia could take great advantage of shipping goods out of Somalia and put tariffs on them and take in exports from other countries if they get rid of pirates and warlords since they have the Cape Horn of Africa. I am not sure if creating another state of Somalia is an answer, simply due to the fact the colonizers in the past have done it and it resulted in violence in murder. In conclusion, it will take awhile for Somalia to reach this goal of becoming a stable free market country.

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This was a hard decision, but with my knowing RWN in real life, and Hallo's outburst and renouncement last week, my vote will go to RWN.

And this isn't campaigning for a friend, this is something that a lot of people have said that irks me.:

JUST BECAUSE A NATION DOESN'T COMMENT ON EVERY CONVERSATION DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE INACTIVE!! Rant completed.

I'd have to say I like both candidates in this race.

But to stay true to my baby. I'll be hoping Hallo wins.

I thought I had already addressed my outburst from last week, but alright, here it goes. That day, my father had been telling me how he doesn't go around yelling straight pride and waving a straight pride flag. I posted a little passive aggressive remark about it on Facebook, and TTA then posted straight pride here, which irked me even more. Also, just because you know RWN irl doesn't mean you should vote for him. Hell, sometime Godisdead and I didn't even vote for each other and we shared a womb for 9 months.

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