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Region: Libertatem
Hello. Quick question, which I just posted on the CSA board but is probably more appropriate here. What is this region's stance on fascism? Clearly you think communism is worth fighting against (and I partially agree, depending on the definition of communism), but what about fascism?
Post self-deleted by Liberosia.
Posted by The Free Republic of New Sloveniakia: Hello. Quick question, which I just posted on the CSA board but is probably more appropriate here. What is this region's stance on fascism? Clearly you think communism is worth fighting against (and I partially agree, depending on the definition of communism), but what about fascism?
Daveyonya, the stance of Libertatem against fascism is not one of contempt. We believe communism is the greatest evil of all, in this light, we accept fascism and fascist allies because they can help us against the War on Communism. We need as many anti-communist nations as possible on our side if we are to defeat the Reds.
So I see you've been recruiting from my region. Cool, but as I said. You're being watched.
We have a problem on our hands ya'll. I think every commie is about to declare war on Vestsylvania. And soon us. *gulp
Everybody stay calm...don't panic. I am considering entering a password for the region; send your objections to me if you have any.
Everyone please comment on the new forum post The War on Communism. Go to International Incidents and then to The War on Communism.
Thanks
What do you all think about making Vestsylvania the official arms manufacturer of Libertatem?
Once I've made some weapons I will compile the best ones into a factbook article for Vestsylvania.
Hi just moved over from CSA seems everyone left got the boot for some reason logged on in the rejected realms.
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Hey, everyone please be careful what you say on the regional message board...you never know who might be watching. Use telegrams more if you want to communicate.
Please endorse me!
Hey!
What do you all think about this WA issue http://www.nationstates.net/page=ga ? I would like to know because I want to represent as best I can. As for me, I'm against.
Well, it's your vote, but I'm personally for the bill.
Hey, anyone here seen the movie Red Dawn?
Ya the new previews look awesome
Previews? I'm talking about the one made in the 80's.
Wolveriiiiiiiiiines!
That movie is pretty inspirational to me.
Yes I've seen the Original several times just figured since you brought it up you where talking about the new one about to come out.
Wait...there's a new one about to come out?! Really? Yes!!!!!
Yeppers the new Preview ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoqlBHSePw0
And it looks like the Chinese instead lol
Well, that makes alot more sense now.
I've heard about that movie. I think I need to see it.
It's awesome! It's about a bunch of teenagers who get guns and supplies and fight the communist invaders.
WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL OF THE WA MEMBERS!!!!!!! I can't even be delegate!!!
???
Why the '???' RedBadge?
Hey, let's have more recruiting. We recently took a small hit to our numbers here in Libertatem, so we need to add a few nations to our region. If you're going to recruit, be sure to mention that we are anti-communist (the War on Communism). Thanks.
Hello nations of Libertatem!
Hello Sabalta! You are among friends here.
Hello all, so just recently, a resolution has been proposed to condemn our region.
here's the link to the condemnation, just scroll down a bit: http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_proposal/council=2
Friends, the people in The Internationale and other communist regions like to say that we are the ones who are against them, that we will not stop. However, I just found this on The Internationale regional message board: "Greetings! I've left my own region which had atrophied and died for greener pastures. I hope I can help forward the progress of Marxism in Nationstates and the real world."
The communists will not stop, as you can see from above. They will continue to forever spread their ideology of destruction and death across the game of NationStates and the globe. Just remember, that even if we are condemned by the WA, we are in the right and they are in the wrong.
Death to Communism!!!!!
Ok good news, the proposal to break apart this great region will not pass. Voting ends in 90 min. or so and they still need 30 more votes.
YES!!!!!!! Victory! There is still hope for NationStates!
Hello Nations of Libertatem,
We are in need of new recruits, so if you can spare a few moments or so, could you please send a telegram or two to nations without a founder (the Pacifics, Rejected Realms, Osiris, etc.) talking about what we are all about and the details of our region. Please mention the War on Communism and address the nations by their names. No pressure, but it would help juice up our numbers.
Thanks
We shall be the victors in the War on Communism!
A friend in one of our ally regions has told me a way to mess with the Commies. If you distract them with telegrams it takes them away from their work. If you tell them that how they take over nations, password protecting them in the process, and annexing is like the Nazis annexing Austria they become lost for words. In the end communists are just like fascists.
Good suggestion.
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Hey, welcome back RedBadge...apparently Dermt is wanting to stay in Hail the Trinity for a while. Do you know why?
Hey CST, could you please approve "Liberate Tokyo"? Thanks.
Come on people, let's have a discussion. Any one want to make a constitution? Anything?
Hey, we're a featured region!
Post self-deleted by Itsariana.
Congrats on being featured.
Thanks! We seem to be on the map now. :)
So what defines a communist in the game?
Do you mean real communists or roleplaying ones?
Democratic Socialists and Anarchists - are they also lumped into that category?
For example do you have a problem with a region like Democratic Socialist Assembly?
I don't mean to bomb you with questions I'm just curious.
Congrats on being featured, friends.
Thankyou again. What defines a communist? Anyone who would, given the choice, throw in their lot with the Marxists and Leninists. Anyone who believes government is the solution to every single problem, or a solid majority of the problems. We believe government is not the solution to the problem, but that the dictatorial government via the proletariat of the communists is the problem.
This nation is our new law firm...I look forward to his help in furthering the War on Communism.
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Services provided:
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-Private Investigation
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Hey, could we do some recruiting for our region? If you want to, you can use this message, make another one like it, or modify it. Just be sure to include our anti-communism.
Honorable NationState,
I would like to invite you to come and join Libertatem. We were founded for the sole purpose of fighting the War on Communism. We regard ourselves as mostly capitalist, but any right-wing or anti-communist nation is welcome to reside in our region of freedom and liberty.
We are actively fighting the communists, forming strategies with other like-minded regions and we would be honored if you would cast your lot with us.
This is not a standard recruitment message. We want you to join us for a cause, not to boost our region's population. We stand for justice and liberty, neither of which can exist while the communist threat is still alive. We are at a crucial moment now. The Red army consists of hundreds of nations ready to invade regions like Tokyo (please see the Security Council Proposals). We need to strike them and have the power to invade them so they can learn once and for all that we, free individuals, will no longer stand for oppression.
Best Regards
The newly instated Republic of Sabalta wishes to congratulate all nations of Libertatem for challenging the commie menace. Now that we are no longer a dictatorial monarchy, we can establish our own laws and agreements with the rest of Libertatem. We must come together and expand this glorious region!
I'll second that, Sabalta.
Hey guys, I got sent this telegram by Neutricland...has anyone else? He's recruiting in our region and calling Liberosia a dictator. I think Liberosia called for a constitution a while ago, so he's not a dictator.
Hello, Id like to invite you to come to The Federal Islands. We are the largest anti-communist region in the world and communists are forbidden in our region. We are strong supporters of freedom, liberty, democracy, and technology. The Federal Islands is also a region for nations with strong economies and also improving your economies. Your nation will have much more freedom here than in Libertatem since you have the right to vote in elections and can sign up for government positions in our region. In Libertatem you are ruled by the dictator of The Confederacy of Liberosia. We have many organizations in the field of technology. They include FIRP(Federal Islands Railroad Program), FIND(Federal Islands Nuclear Defense), and FITU(Federal Islands Technology Union) which includes cool weapons and other cool technology. FISP(Federal Islands Space Program) may be coming up soon. We also have a government and constitution. If you want to find out about our government, history, and constitution, then go to http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=The_Federal_Islands
To join The Federal Islands, click on one of the Green The Federal Islands links and then click Move Your Nation to The Federal Islands
This was on Federal Islands message board, it's kind of sad that they are attacking us...Everybody please recruit! We need to remain the largest anti-communist region in the world and not lose that title to Libertatem.
Dear Region Members, I am sorry to see the betrayal of Del Mar and his leaving to The Federal Islands. This is a major blow to me and I hope you sympathize. I have put multiple messages on their message board using different puppets telling them to stop recruiting in our region. I sent a telegram to their founder asking him to stop. He has ejected my puppets, suppressed the messages, and refuses to discuss this issue with me. I am sorry to see a former ally like The Federal Islands stoop to such a level as this. It is not just a blow to our region, but to our cause.
...wow, you guys are the first I have seen that are at war with communists but are not nazis, COOL !
Do you have any jobs for me... I'm so tired of just answering issues !
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First of all, it would be best if you became a WA member.
There is now an Anti-Communist tag that we can use!
TAFL is the first region to wear it.
I know it...I was the one who had it created.
Any nation who is interested in invasions somewhere in the future should contact me.
Excellent.
Indeed.
Come on people, can we have a discussion?
Let's discuss:
which candidate for US presidency is better suited for the job ?
Obviously, Obama's got experience handling a country but he murdered the american economy and the fact that Osama Bin Laden was caught and killed during his presidency is just luck.
Yeah, I don't really care about "who's more experienced". Ronald Reagan was down from Carter by four years and he still did a better job with the economy. Obama, as you said, did kinda knife our economy with all his stimulus. Romney will do another across the board tax cut (Supply Side). As it worked with Reagan, so it shall work with Romney.
Ted Nugent 2016 lol
That is funny.
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I support Mitt Romney. But only bexuase he is the lesser of two evils. America needs someone "good" to run for president. I'd rather see his VP pick Paul Ryan run.
lol, did you guys hear how Romney trolled Obama about the destruction of the American embassy in Libya
Haven't heard it yet...it's good to see Romney talking about this. Obama was a nut for helping the rebels in Libya. Sure Ghadafi was horrible, but at least he didn't have a fever to kill Americans whenever they came in sight.
well, the american embassy in Cairo that apologized for a low-budget anti-prophet Muhammad film that was recently released in the US that sparked outrage in the middle east
Romney said: "Why should we apologize for American values ?"
Good man.
All the middle eastern and north arfican dictators were horrible, but they kept stability. It's sick, but true.
For instance, if Saddam Hussein was still in power, I don't think you'd see Iran rising up the way they are.
Was he a bad man? Absolutely. But he kept stability, in a way.
The problem is democracy. When the gives too much significance to the individual, the individual becomes more important than the state and the state loses control over him.
Dictatorships are so stable because dictators have the power to throw anyone opposed to their rule in a cell and forget about them. While in democracy, they have to consider each person's view. The variety of opinions creates many groups with different opinions and they reduce the power of the state, leading to instability.
Also, a dictator has the power to do what is right not what the people want. For example, the Canadian air force is already small and the planes have gotten very old. No one wants to spend 80 billion on fighter jets but, hey, it's a necessary decision. What if China invades tomorrow ? What if the conflict in Syria spills into a middle-eastern international war ??? (the Shias and Sunnis hate each other too much already)
Where will we get our oil then ???
China is already capturing our territory by non-violent means. Just last week, a chinese oil giant announced a plan to buy a CANADIAN company that is operating on CANADIAN land !!!
If this bid goes through then the chinese would be free to exploit land that they do not own !!!
They would gain more money to boost their business while we would fall deeper and deeper into debt !
We got our feet in to many places we need to back out of the rest of the world unless the acting government request our presence. Not saying to high tale it out like chickens but we are not the world police and everyone hates that feeling when a cop is around. We need to back off take care of our self's so when something happens we can better address the issue. We are giving to many hand outs to the world and its killing us as a nation and there's a lot of places we been just giving gobs of cash to that just straight up hate us. You wouldn't keep feeding a dog if it bit you every time it got a chance.
I'm all for helping people when they need it and want it and respect it. But if it don't fall in line with that its a waste like we are giving foreign aid to China!!! ya that's right we are borrowing from them just to donate to them how messed up does that sound right now there are only 8 country's in in the world that do not receive foreign aid from the US and that is messed up.
I second RedBadge's comment.
Hey Hipparch, I can see where you are coming from...your ideals lean towards the philosophy of Hobbes. Fascism, at its absolute core, is much better than communism, but is still a form of totalitarianism. I believe the military should be the number one priority of the state, but I do not believe we should restrict freedom for the individual. Is democracy the solution? No, my solution is a Republic. In a republican form of government, the state would be obliged to follow laws and rights (created in a constitution when the people would still have the mind to create a strong military) and could not violate them like in a democracy (theoretically). So, in a Republic, the military would, in ideal conditions, be the first priority. This can be done by making it hard to pass legislation which distracts the people from the intended purpose of government (like the amendments); make it mandatory to have 75% of the vote for every new piece of legislation. Thus, the revolutionary capitalists who created the constitution, would see it live for centuries into the future, free of totalitarianism and the corruption of direct democracy.
Speaking of a Republic, does anyone want to form a Congress for our region?
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yes, and you would need a system where you would vote for elections
basically, if more than 50% of the people voted to have an election, then one would be held
holding elections automatically every 4 years is quite wasteful and it creates voter apathy, which, in turn, undermines the whole purpose of the democratic system
I prefer to refer to our nation's politics as a republican system more than a democratic one. I like the idea of every four years forcing and election, because without that, bureaucrats could gain power (through one way or another) and block elections. On the flip side, an election could be held whenever, and that would unravel the Republic. I think the best way is for there to be a four year term with no limits, that way the leader could stay in office if the people liked him enough, but he would always have to worry about being reelected-> that way he'd be checked against seizing the rights of the people.
Greetings those of liberty and anti-Communism!
-President Nixon
Greetings esteemed President.
So we gonna kill the Communists?
-Nixon
Yes, through invasion. Right now, we need everyone who possibly can to join the WA so we can add numbers to our invasions.
What about just sending some nukes over to those communists and starting a Cold War.
Well, that's RP'ing (role playing). We want to conduct actual raids and invasions in the real game so we can literally hurt the forces of communism.
Who wants puppets? I know a guy that has some he would like to get off his hands.
How old are they?
I am interested in all or a lot of them.
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