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Region: Libertatem
Post self-deleted by Auxorii.
From the ‘Tatemite Defense Alliance
The Alliance congratulates one of its strongest members and the first to join the alliance after the founding states, Suzi Island for topping the list and having the largest arms manufacturing industry in all of Libertatem.
We also see numerous other member-states of the Alliance in the top 10; including the most recently admitted nation-state (as well as their sister nation), Miencraft.
Loyalists to the pretender-state of the so-called Minovdi Government-In-Exile, which falsely claims true legitimacy to the Miencraftic Empire of Minovdigon, and associated allies are declared as enemies of the Alliance; member-states should immediately arrest such persons found if such associations come to light and arrange for their transfer to a legitimate Miencraftic juristiction.
Any nation-states found to be aiding enemies to the Alliance are subject to the might deemÂ’d necessary by its member-states.
The Alliance is quickly becoming the fastest growing and strongest independent military pact in the history of the region. We consider the topping of such world rankings as victories in themselves - and we know there are more victories to come.
Per industriam prosperamus,
Joseph Rú
Premier of Auxorii
Chairman of the Â’Tatemite Defense Alliance
Miencraft, Rateria
Re Understanding why. (Real life application, not gameplay)
It has to do with the reality of what is going on in the world around us. We align ourselves with the forces that guide human nature by our minds. The sides of these various forces have their own vocabulary to control the concepts and precepts by which people are expected to behave. Those words mean specific things to which their ideologies belong and inform what manner, nature, and amount of force may be used against those who forget their place, or fail in their perceived duties.
Words of and regarding despots (especially when targeting playthings (other people, not just their subjects, serfs and slaves)) are different than words that define those who by nature ought to be free and equal, seek to be, or expect others to be free and equal (historically and logistically). The classical liberal world (Modernity) had to reclaim the ancient concepts, coin whole cloth or repurpose words to distinguish them from the typical tyrannies of the mind that have been oppressing humanity during and since ancient times. Where the Left, Right, Libertarian, and Authoritarian happen use the same words it is always with different intent.
This is one of the reasons why the Left tries so hard to destroy the meanings of our words. Our vocabulary and syntax given to us by Western Civ are inherently liberal (conducive to liberty in opposition to everything else). The Marxists and Socialists despise human self-governance (upon which Liberty thrives), and must put them away or redefine them out of their liberal utility -- make them illiberal.
The first order in the mind games is to convince people that words don't really have any meaning (viz., they aren't that important). If they have meaning they cannot have purpose. If a word somehow has purpose, it must be divorced of meaning. The illiberal Leftists have been doing a good job of it, as they have controlled academia in America for decades now. (It goes without saying that this is an affront to human dignity).
Re: True Allegiance
I have never had to swear "true allegiance" while fulfilling any service to the Federal or State government, military or civilian; nor would I have ever done so. Just like I will never say, "Heil Great Leader." I spent 8 years as an indentured servant to protect and defend the Constitution in affirmation, but I have always done so (and continue to do so) as a free man and Citizen anyway. With the military I affirmed to defend and protect the Constitution (a duly constituted document of Liberty), against all enemies foreign and domestic and to obey all Lawful orders. Lawful has a specific and very defined legal meaning. With another department it was additionally to "faithfully bear my duties."
As a Christian my true allegiance is to God Almighty and his only begotten Son Jesus Christ alone, and to the principles of Liberty which Christians are commanded to shout from the rooftops, not to the machinations of narcissist goons who think they are gods of this world. As an American, my duty is to secure truth, justice, and liberty. As a Republican, I will die on my feet before swearing with the words of potentates enslaved by the vanities of their own minds which see humans as resources to be enslaved -- not what they are, fellow beings, all of one race of equal station made in the image and likeness of God to be treated with respect and dignity, liberally (with liberty -- not illiberally). No one of my generation taught in our language, heritage, and culture as Americans would have been so brazen to defy principles of respecting other people's life, liberty and property as a free people in a free society by demanding "true allegiance."
Agencies are public servants of the People, not the other way around. If any Federal agency is now doing so (requiring true allegiance) they are in violation of the Constitution and the principles upon which we are founded as a nation. They are using the doctrine of tyrants and traitors, whether they know it or not. It needs to stop now.
Re: Legal Terminologies (Reasonable Manner)
I was going to fully go into why apparently redundant words like true allegiance and reasonable obligation (both) are used, but the post is already too long. Suffice it to say reasonable obligation is a specific legal term even though it is an apparent redundancy as well. Reasonable obligation speaks as to how one's obligations are acted upon when discharging that obligation. Some obligations (simple) are to do or do not. Other obligations are to be acted upon in certain (reasonable) manner.
Of course, this is in dealing with politics irl. Were I playing a marxian (socialist, nazi, communist, fascist, fabian or otherwise), authoritarian, or other type of despotic nation this would not be an issue, as my words would be for manipulation, not elucidation.
I hope this helps.
I knew the regional rankings would one day pay off. Thank you for the recognition
Miencraft, Kumquat Cove, Auxorii, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots
I will be accepting proposals for a new recruitment telegram, or parts of one. Any input is encouraged. Who should we be aiming at recruiting, what might they already believe, or be interested in? What kind of community should we present ourselves as? What values should we emphasize?
Additionally, some updates on our progress:
- Highway Eighty-Eight has been unanimously elected Orator of the Senate, and will now serve as its president, with powers similar to the Speaker under the Second Republic. He will continue to lead the region as transitional dictator until a solid foundation for the new Republic is laid.
- A constitutional draft is in its earliest stages of construction. Patience is asked, do to the limited number of current authors, and their limited ability to devote time to writing and reviewing said document. If anyone would like to help, please DM Highway Eighty-Eight either on NS or Discord.
- Even without a written constitution, expect a bill to be proposed to the Senate aimed at requiring said body to make records of its proceedings, and votes, soon. Either way, such record will be made.
The United States Of Patriots
Dude, you say you enjoy reading my posts on the forums, you are going to love this one, LOL: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=40187730#p40187730
Read the link post provided as well.
ThatÂ’s super cringe
EDIT: Their questioning your knowledge about the difference between your opinions and facts is perfectly valid, given that you didnÂ’t seem to post a single actual fact in any of your posts from the one linked, to the end of the thread.
Miencraft, Auxorii
“Secrecy is, indeed, a priceless but rare virtue, so little effort is made to teach and practice it. The world of today is a whispering gallery where everything is heard, a hall of mirrors where nothing is hid. If the ancients worshiped a God of silence, we seem to set up an altar to the god of gossip.”
Rev. Joseph Fort Newton
Narland, Auxorii
They can question anything I say post and link to and they do. They can strongly disagree with anything I say, post and link too and they do. Facts: They claim all their opinions and views are Facts, they are never wrong, so all of my GMS opinions and views are Facts. it works both ways, we are even. The only Persons who strongly disagree with my Facts, are Leftist Liberal Democrat Progressives, Real Leftists as Therm calls them and anti Trump Persons. These rule applies to me, you and all persons on and off NS.
I would vote for President Trump in the 2024 primary if:
1. He made a vow to pardon Julian Assange and Edward Snowden.
2. He would surround himself with true Amera first patriots in his cabinet. No more neocons and establishment types please.
3. He would dismantle corrupt organizations like the FBI which have become political tools for the establishment left.
4. Have his justice department prosecute Dr. Anthony Fauci for his role in creating the coronavirus and releasing harmful vaccines which have caused untold amounts of damage.
Miencraft, Narland, Kumquat Cove, Greater Miami Shores 3
Fauci helped create the coronavirus?
Suzi, I strongly agree with most of your post, but I'm a neo con Lol, Trump supporter. I strongly agree with Politico on this one, Trump is not a Neo Con or Isolationist Paleocon. Trump is Pro America First. MAGA: Make America Great Again.
There is an embarrassment of documentation showing that money directed to the NIH went to Eco-Health Alliance for GOFr (gain of function research) at the Wuhan Lab for that research. The genetic markers indicate that this was engineered. Fauci's semantic defense in front of Congress was that the definition of GOF was “taking a virus that could infect humans and making it either more transmissible and/or pathogenic for humans.” Thus the engineering of a Novel SARS-CoV-2 would not qualify as "Gain of Function," and was not in violation of US law.
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.10.18.512756v1
https://twitter.com/GOPoversight/status/1450934193177903105?s=20
https://journals.plos.org/plospathogens/article?id=10.1371/journal.ppat.1006698
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21055989-understanding-risk-bat-coronavirus-emergence-grant-notice
Miencraft
I am positive that he will.
I have a slight Libertarian economic streak. Yeah on the ruling classes. Ros Perot is cool. Many years ago there was an oil millionaire or billionaire, who once said he might run for President, I think his name is something like whittaker, but I cant remember his name. I used to love Patrick Buchanan when he was an anti communist Neocon during President Ronald Reagans time. I still agree with him on many issues, and President Trump is Awesome. According to my friend and historian Carlos Lumpuy, an American of French Cuban descent, from way back before Fidel Castro's time in Cuba, Ronald Reagan is the greatest President of the USA, he loves Ronald Reagan, and President Trump is the second greatest President of the USA. Carlos Lumpuy once bought me dinner and 2 beers after a Pro Trump Rally, when a group of us went to a nearby restaurant, and I was short on cash on hand $ at the time.
But thatÂ’s not true. Even if they were presenting their opinions as facts, thatÂ’s not a license for anyone else. If people donÂ’t hold themselves to a higher standard, we will continue to see decline. You do nobody a service.
So the only people who donÂ’t agree with the statement that your opinions are facts... is everybody who doesnÂ’t share your opinion? Most people.
ItÂ’s just a cop out. If you donÂ’t want to actually defend your statements, why are you constantly posting (the same thing) all over the forums? Unless you simply want validation and back pats, which would be sad. I donÂ’t want to be an ass, but this kind of stuff has not helped the Right.
Miencraft, Auxorii
I do defend my statements, and they dismiss anything I say, post and link too anyway. Proving My Point. They dismiss anything we Republicans and Trump supporters say, post and link too anyway. Proving My Point. They dismiss anything Ron DeSantis and Ronald Reagan supporters say, post and link too anyway. Proving My Point.
Recently I stated I could post links on a certain topic, but they will dismiss it anyway. Then I Posted I Predict they will dismiss anything Narland says, posts and links too on the same topic, based on this or that, and they did, Proving My Point.
So they don't just dismiss anything I say, post and link too anyway, they dismiss anything we say, post and link too anyway. Proving My Point. By we I mean by all the type of persons I posted above.
I admit I use a more limited vocabulary of words, because there is no better way of saying it. They use a more broad vocabulary of words. But they do it too, every day the same subjects with the same comments, on CRT, Immigration, the economy, Illegal and legal immigration, the elections, Trump and so on, and the substance of their posts is always the same, as I describe above. They don't see they do it too.
Back To First Base: They keep challenging me on the same topics, so they get a very similar answer on the same topics and because there is no better way of saying it, which they strongly disagree with and dismiss anything I and us Republicans and Trump supporters say, post and link too anyway, Proving My Point, Back To First Base. They do it Too.
All their posts are either Trump Bad, Trump No Good and Trump Evil. So my posts cant be Trump Good, Trump Great and Trump Awesome? I say Yes they can be. We are even.
I am always wrong based on my opinions and they are always right based on Facts and the scientific method process, they used to post this term to me in the past. What a coincidence? According to them they are never wrong. Don't criticize me for it, criticize them for it?
The Persons who strongly agree with them share their opinions. The Persons who strongly agree with you share your opinions. The Persons who strongly agree with me share my opinions. Where is the Problem? There is no Problem.
The Persons who strongly agree with me are Conservative Republicans, Economic Libertarians and Pro Trump Persons. I know Hispanics, Cuban Americans, Jewish Americans, Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Filipinos, Cambodians, Indians and Black African American Trump supporters, most of us or all of us are Ron DeSantis and Ronald Reagan supporters. I know Libertarian Trump supporters.
You are an anti Trump Libertarian and you use Leftist, Liberal Democrat Progressives, anti Trump, Democrat Talking Points.
You are an anti Trump, anti Ron DeSantis and anti Ronald Reagan Libertarian and there is nothing wrong with it. I am a Pro Trump, Pro Ron DeSantis and Pro Ronald Reagan, Conservative Republican Nationalist with a slight Economic Libertarian streak and there is nothing wrong with it. Where is the Problem? There is no Problem.
I Rest My Case for now, LOL.
Did anyone hear about the Buddhist monk who refused pain killers during his root canal? He wanted to transcend dental medication. ba da ching
In the forums the haughtiness of the Woke Leftistist is their calling card. If you are ignored or dismissed out of hand by them when speaking an obvious truth they despise, you are probably on target. If they laugh or mock, you are probably on target. When a Liberty-lover with objective or conservative tendencies uses plain English the Statist tries to twist it out of context or pretend to be obtuse. When using specific terminology, or trying to converse at a collegiate level (which most sociopsychological claptrap must be spoken in order to keep meaning sharp and clear), the Leftist will pretentiously accuse the poster of dogwhistles, buzzwords, and wordsalads.
Any which way, they will most often try to turn the tables and accuse the person of the very things which they are scheming, if not mock your person directly for your sincerely held opinions. They know that you know that they are using pretentious mean-spirited buffoonery but they persist anyway. They act and behave as if they want to be self-deceived, and insist that others go down their umbrella road with them upon pain of ostracization and (when seizing enough political power) death.
I disagree that they do not see it. They are volitionally aware of what they are doing and that what they are doing causes harm. They willingly suppress the truth in unrighteousness. This makes them not just evil (causing harm to others), but wicked (approbative if not approving participants themselves of the havoc wreaked). It is okay to burn and pillage others, but don't you dare hurt their feelings by challenging their inability to perceive the self-evident truth -- that's violence.
To quote my favorite MI5 operative:
“We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell, Facing Unpleasant Facts: Narrative Essays
As you hone your skills, keep hitting the forums with good references. I enjoy your exuberance and willingness to engage the Left. It is refreshing.
Hiway88 makes a good point about argumentation. I think that fighting fire with fire should be used sparingly. Keep presenting with good form and irrefutable proofs as best you can. My advice is to keep up the exuberance, and keep honing your skills. The future of the republic could depend on it.
Greater Miami Shores 3
LOL, in a good way not a bad way, very deep, eloquently and sophisticatedly written.
I enjoy arguing my Facts and our Facts with the Leftists, and I don't back down, this is why they strongly criticize me, and say I and us are always wrong based on our opinions and they are always right based on Facts and the scientific method process.
Another reason is, I strongly defend President Trump and don't back down, in this way I am like Trump, who tells you what he thinks no matter what, this is one of the things I love about Trump and we love about Trump.
A Spanish saying or expression: No tengo pelos en la lengua - It translates to I don't have hairs on my tongue, it means I speak my mind, like Trump. In this sense I am like Trump, but no one can beat Trump at it.
I account for at least 95 % of the Pro Republicans, Pro Trump, Pro Ron DeSantis, Pro Ronald Reagan, Posts and Posters on NS General, this is another reason they say I am always wrong based on my opinions and they are always right based on Facts, this is the best, worse and only political counter argument they have. This is the best they can do, LOL.
of course they know I know why they say it, as I just described why they say it, I should have posted they pretend I don't know it.
I respect all Persons democratic rights and freedom of speech to strongly disagree with me and us on all issues, with personal respect. In this sense it makes me a social Libertarian, LOL.
To Phrase or Para Phrase our Great Republican Governor of Florida, Ron DeSantis, You take in coming fire, that's just the nature of it.
But I don't give Hiway88 any credit, because he does not criticize them for it, he criticizes me for it, but we will see if I reasoned with him and convinced him since I asked him.
A man once criticized those who would clean the outside of a cup, while leaving the inside dirty. If thatÂ’s a sin, then this is a farce: dirtying the outside of a cup and expecting anybody to believe you when you claim the inside is clean. Conservatives, and the right in general, seem to desire to lower themselves, and to distort sin and mediocrity for virtue, as of late. What business is it of mine to attempt to pull the splinter out of my opponentÂ’s, when my would be companions insist on shoving motes into their own eyes?
Greater Miami Shores 3
lol, while I strongly disagree for obvious reasons, as I expected. very creative, lol again.
As I get older Christmas really seems to sneak up on me.
Call me a Grinch but I hate Christmas time so much. If it was only family time and good will to mankind and such then I wouldn't mind but there's so much crap about what are you gonna get this person and such. I don't like it
Fight communism, steal Christmas
More like fight the popists be a Puritan. "1647, the Puritan-led English Parliament banned the celebration of Christmas, replacing it with a day of fasting and considering it "a popish festival with no biblical justification", and a time of wasteful and immoral behaviour.[40] Protests followed as pro-Christmas rioting broke out in several cities and for weeks Canterbury was controlled by the rioters, who decorated doorways with holly and shouted royalist slogans." The idea of pro Christmas rioting is funny to me
Prods are so strangeÂ
Up the Ra.
Miri Islands
It always sneaks up on me. Thanksgiving and Easter were the two big holidays in our family, followed by Independence Day. One side of the family didn't start celebrating Christmas until the It's A Wonderful Life came out (and only some did, and then only half-heartedly), and the other side until the late 60s when I was old enough to remember the change over. Some years it was an all out decoration with tree and manger, and others it was "Hmm. Tomorrow's Christmas and we would pull up a 6 ft tall sage brush put fake snow and tinsel on it. Good memories. One church that I attended would do the Christmas Play every year and that was a good heads up for advent. The other would hold a watchnight vigil.
People want to have fun, and donÂ’t like it when particular cults use the state to suppress their own.
ItÂ’s important to remember that by the end of it, the Puritans had not only pissed off the Royalists and Catholics, but quite literally every other group of people in the British Isles, including many Puritans, and were no longer welcome.
“The problem with most of us is that we’d rather be ruined by praise than saved by criticism.”
~ Norman Vincent Peale
“Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself.”
~ Tolstoy
“Many of the faults you see in others are your own nature reflected in them.”
~ Rumi
Right now, the conservatives, and right-wingers, and traditionalists, and the religious, and so on, are in decline, because they refuse to really acknowledge their own rot. They move to the tune of Nietzsche as if he were God Himself, and they donÂ’t even realize it. Too busy blaming and fretting over the world around them.
Oh well.
Miri Islands
Remember, at the time the Puritans were continuing the Reformation to purge the church of all unchristian (romish, popish, and pagan, etc.) influences, including repudiating the corruption of the Episcopacy. As keepers of the colony, they were commissioned to encourage everyone to return back to the plain teachings of Christ in accordance with God's word, and divorce Christianity from the syncretism that had steadily polluted it over the centuries. They were not opposed to Christmas being celebrated (as you quoted) but against celebrating it with popish priestcraft, fleshly irreverence, or Saturnalian revelry. It didn't become a national holiday in the US until the later 1800s in order for greeting card companies and the newly reorganized Post Office to sell cards and stamps. Not the best motivation for celebrating a day supposedly reserved for honoring the incarnation of the Creator of the Universe. And most Americans did not even celebrate it as a civil holiday until the 20th Century as many saw it as robbing God of the worship due him, but gladly took the day off anyway.
And their spiritual successors, we Traditional Americans who are still practicing our heritage and culture in the vein of Evangelical Classical Liberalism (as Conservative Republicans) are still pissing people off locally and all over the world to this day. :)
The Puritans were far from liberal. They did the exact same things the Stuarts did, except against everyone. Their confiscation of public lands exceeded the Stuarts.
Not content with simply being free to live as they wished, they insisted upon dominating and controlling by everybody else. They werenÂ’t hated for being liberal, they were hated for being tyrannical fanatics.
Auxorii
Lol, “Saturnalia” despite fanatic Protestant claims, Christmas has almost nothing at all to do or owe to Paganism.
Protestants are so afraid of “syncretism” that they attack Christianity.
Auxorii
They were indeed Classical Liberal. Just because they were also socially conservative does not detract from their attempt to extend the God given right to life, liberty, and property in the manner they best knew how, the chronological snobbery, and deliberate lies of those born later who think they would have a far better job, notwithstanding.
If Church founders (the Apostles) had though it important to celebrate God's birthday, they would have done so from the beginning. Substituting the Winter Solstice for the teaching the Advent in later centuries was a mistake. Again, it isn't the celebration itself but the manner in which it is celebrated and to what it speaks when doing so. This means different things to different people at different times. To the Puritans it was a well documented concern. Personally, I do not care, but I will defend those who are lied about, even Bush 43 and Biden, as much as I despise their politics. I will speak out against those who lie about the Puritans, the American Founders, the Reconstruction Republican's, Barry Goldwater, Ronald Reagan, Ron Paul, Donald Trump. It tends to be instinctual.
Sounds like Salafism
It is called Puritanism for a reason. Those of us who follow in their footsteps (conservative Presbyterians, Congregationalists, and non-Denominational boogerheads like me), theologically and politically are still in "semper reformata" (always reforming) mode -- Reforming back to the basic simplicity of Christ according to His Word.
those who do are their successors. Puritanism, (and Reformed Christianity (the conservative part of Evangelical Christianity)), seeks to return to the basics of Christ commanding us to
>> "Love God with all our heart, soul, mind, and strength;
>>to love our neighbors as we love ourselves; and
>>treat others they we ourselves want to be treated."
The big difference is that Slasfism wants to return to the basics of Muhammed commanding all Muslims to hate their enemies and putting their feet on the necks of others until they submit.
As you can see, one is based on hatred for one's enemeis and waging physical war against them. The other is based on love; waging spiritual war to refute every high and lofty thing that rails against the knowledge of God; and loving our enemies -- doing good to those hate us, and praying for those who maliciously persecute us.
You donÂ’t understand Salafism, which is primarily quietistic and non-violent.
Then it not at all like Puritanism (seeking to return to the pure teachings of its founder). Puritanism was averse if not hostile to pietism. If it Salafism is non-violent it is an evasion of the pure teachings of Muhammed.
I meant Quietism
No. Muslim leaders of almost every sect reject this claim, coming from Christians.
Puritans where highly analytical, scholastic, and tended toward being both fully secular and fully spiritual in a reasonable (reasons laid out logically) manner. Those who tended toward Quietism became Quakers or Brethren. The Friends side of my family had some bad encounters with firebrand Puritans in the ancestry. The Puritans were not perfect (as any following), but they were on the right track, theologically, philosophically and politically, for the most part. The Baptists that separated from them, the Pilgrims and especially the Friends helped round off their rough edged over the course of a century.
I wasnÂ’t comparing Puritans and Salafis over shared quietism and non-violence.
My response to that is to read the Quran plainly, consult the Hadith (any Hadith) and the look at the resulting sunnas. Anyone who does not find that Muhammed was serious about using the sword to vanquish enemies of Allah, is not serious about Islam, but is shirking.
Lol. The most respected Muslim scholars, theologians, and jurists are just wrong about their religion.
IC. I was looking at the form, not the incidental similarities. You are correct at that.
I have found otherwise. The most respected Muslim scholars, theologians, and jurists are quite vocal and consistent that the faithful are to wage war on the enemies of Allah. Those who say otherwise are allowed to practice takiyya in unconverted lands, as they do not stand in the way of those fulfilling a fatwa or when the time comes waging jihad.
Greater Miami Shores 3
Name some.
Anyone from ISIS and ISIL, most immami, and almost every ayatollah of whom I am aware (Shia). I do not have access directly to the names, as I have not had this discussion since the 1990s. I do have a hard time believing that you are not pulling my leg.
I do remember that the Malikis school of jurisprudence is quite clear how to treat people once the lands are conquered by the sword, comes to mind. Of course the Wahhabi stream within the Salafi school (I remember who they are now) advocates calling even lax fellow Muslims apostate so they can wage jihad. If you give me a week, I could probably get the books out of storage from when I was overseas.
Islam is quite proud of their obedience to Allah at taking the lands that they have so far. There are no apologies, serious calls for reparation's, or remorse at following the plain call from historic Islam to subjugate the earth by conquest. There is the satisfaction that the enemies of Allah have gotten what they deserve when they have had to be put to death by the sword.
You are aware that ISIS is an extreme minority, and has been excommunicated or condemned by almost every major Islamic leader in every major islamic sect? Calling any Muslim a takfir is grounds for being labeled a takfir according to the leaders of every major Muslim sect and school of jurisprudence according to a decision of the Ummah. Notably, this is the only recent decision of Ummah (in centuries). The fact is that almost every Muslim population that is not bordering Israel, rejects offensive war.
The Twelver Shia do not reject war, but the Jafari School does not support offensive war. The Twelvers are also not the only Shia sect. The Ismailis are also a large Shia sect, and the largest group hold the Aga Khan to be their Imam, and he also rejects offensive war.
LOL. The Leftist Liberal Democrat Progressive Politicians, VIPs and the Leftist Media are not Political Saints.
Never said they were.
As a conservative Presbyterian (OPC) i tend to think of myself as a successor to the Puritans and especially enjoy the works of Jonathan Edwards (Religous Affections, Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God et al)
Narland
Libertatem has begun a major recruitment drive. Thanks to the generous donations of a number of 'Tatemites, we can expect the population to increase, and to have a steady number of recruitment telegrams sent for a long time.
If anyone else wishes to contribute to our recruitment program, feel free to donate stamps to this nation. The NationStates store allows you to purchase stamps, and other telegram related features on behalf of another nation, by specifying prior to checkout using the gift button.
Narland, Auxorii, Rateria
Welcome to the region Monnaieland
Narland, Suzi Island, Rateria
I took it to mean well respected arbiters of fiqh within the respective communities. It is part of the nature of Islam as a legalistic and authoritarian religion to gather around persuasive imams. That competing schools (regardless of size) have their rivalries and detractors outside are to be expected.
The bottom line is that regardless of the school, Islam as a matter of practice requires the servant Allah to lead, follow, or get out of the way when those who are waging jihad against the infidel are in action. To not do so is to ally with the enemies of Allah. Islam is and always has been a religion of peace by conquest. When in the minority to be peaceable with the infidel, and when gaining the upper hand to enforce the peace of Allah with the sword.
There are peaceable people and pacifists in every belief system. When push comes to shove it is irrelevant. When warmongers of any stripe have power, wars happen. Ask any of the jailed Quakers who refused to fight in the Viet-Nam War, or the descendants of Muslims who were executed for helping their Christian neighbors escape the Armenian genocide.
The folly from the hubris of Western Civ ruling classes especially in Western Departments of State that think Islam can be "tamed" and conformed to the standards of Western Civilization is utterly laughable. They seem oblivious that Islam is not just a religion but a full fledged civilization in its own right, with its own set of standards, moral obligations, and modes of behaviour. By magic of their good intentions, they act as if they really believe that putting pressure on, manipulating, and engineering a more "peaceable" (in Western eyes) Islam, it can be Westernized/Modernized/Christianized and Muslims can be incorporated as servile functionaries within Western Civ itself.
Islam is a revelatory religion of its sacred book. The Q'uran is unchangeable and unchanging. The Hadiths are well established, and the sunnahs must reflect that. The goal of Islam is to create a world order to please Allah by imitating the life, words, and deeds of Muhammed (a brigand, despot, and warlord among many other things) when practicing its pillars. To not do so is to shirk. To change any of this makes it no longer Islam, but apostacy.
Was looking through some of the old magazines in my collection, and found one issue from May 1920. One article devoted a few pages to arguing that people with venereal diseases shouldnÂ’t be allowed to marry or breed, and Americans should get behind, and take a lead in, the New League of Nations so that they might create a new race in the wake of WW1.
Welcome to the region, Vortlands and Greente Rea. Please feel to introduce yourselves here on the RMB, or join our Discord server.
Narland, Auxorii, Suzi Island, Rateria
Executive elections will also take place soon, so if you wish to run, speak up.
WeÂ’ve decided to retain an executive branch led by consuls, as was the case during the time of the Consulate, but instead of a college of three consuls, we will have a dual-leadership of two equal consuls with veto power over each other. The terms of the Consuls will be six months. The terms will be staggered so that a consular election will take place every three months. As such, one of the first two consuls will only serve for three months.
Rateria
It's almost as though eugenics, globalism and authoritarianism goes hand-in-hand with its subsequent malice, impoverishment, death, destruction...
At the time advanced therapeutics and sulfa regimens were putting putting a dent in ameliorating the incurable (at the time) social diseases. Back then those Socialist goons were pretty open about their hatred for American medicine with its free enterprise doctoral profession refuting their goals for planned medicine (government run healthcare). One of the reasons Statists backed the creation of the current AMA.
One treatment supposedly put syphilize into remission, but it was lambasted by the people who created the current AMA. If those globalists had had their way, the subsequent changes in scientific methodologies would have made penicillin ever being discovered a remotely implausible.
Glad to see the region expanding so rapidly. Viva Libertatem!
Narland, Auxorii
Recruitment and Citizenship Update
We have removed the seven day residence requirement from the citizenship application because we believe that it acts as too strong of a deterrent for immigration and counters our plan to expand the population.
Narland, Suzi Island
I wish Libertatem a happy Winter Solstice.
Mankind has marked the solstices since time immemorial, due to their utility and their symbolism. As the old year, with its highs and lows, dies, the new year is born.
To the ancient Norse, it represented the death of the old gods, and the birth of something new, and greater.
The Early Christians used the solstices to illustrate the birth of Christ, his rise, and death.
In Libertatem, we two mark this day for its symbolism, and hope that Libertatem too will be reborn greater, this coming year.
Narland, Rateria, Brewsterdam
Days only get longer from here
Auxorii
Greetings, IÂ’m The Jamesian Republic and I recently established an embassy with your region. IÂ’m glad to be here and I hope to get to know you all.
Narland, Auxorii, Rateria, Brewsterdam
Hi everyone, IÂ’m new to this game. Just wanted to say hello and thank you for the invite 👍
Narland, Auxorii, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots
Glad to have you.
Welcome to the region. I hope you enjoy your time here.
Narland, Auxorii, Rateria
Just a reminder that this is still a thing. We may have two candidates so far, which is the bare minimum needed for the positions to be filled. Both would win automatically due to no contest. If anyone wishes to server as Consuls, and help the transition towards a more functional and constitutional republic, please say so.
Auxorii, Rateria
Thanks.
Narland
So, we (the region) received the following telegram from Staile. I myself do not have the time to give a good response, but if any of you would like to have a go at it, please feel free:
EDIT: the original message was in French.
Communism sucks and France sucks
Highway Eighty-Eight, Brewsterdam
Now that I have time, here's a lazy response that can't beat Suzi's:
"The only way to achieve freedom and equality is through the elimination of class divisions and oppression inherent in class societies and states."
If taken from the perspective of a Marxist, or similar left-wing materialist, this statement is true. However, the Marxist has a completely different understanding of the terms "Liberty" and "Equality" than that of most of our members here. Most of us employ the terms in a way that much more similar (though obviously not identical) to what was originally meant when those Frenchmen first declared "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity". I can tell you right now that most of them were not socialists. To most of us here in Libertatem, however, Liberty can generally be translated to the lack of coercive force. This is antithetical to the conception of Marx, who embraced coercion as necessary for the Proletariat to achieve dominance over the other classes.
"Do you realize the extent of human suffering and death that capitalism has caused?"
Yeah, in way. But overall, I think we can attribute much of that to coercion, not the system of capitalism. Have people died due to lack of charity (and I don't reduce that word to base and petty donation of wealth) in largely capitalist systems, yes. Many. I will not deny that, I won't even try to justify it. I'll leave the justification or ignoring of wrongs to other people. But I don't think the flaw is in the voluntary buying and selling of goods and services, but in the lack of that fraternal love between men that is required for any system to benefit the greatest number of people, and the necessary spirit for "Liberty and Equality" to exist. Since men today mostly lack a sense of brotherly love, a socialist system, especially one of a Marxist character, cannot possibly fulfill such an aim, due to the necessity of coercive power to be much more centralized than in other system. I won't repeat Acton's axiom.
"We need a better system, we need to find the system with the fewest flaws and fix them."
While I agree that we should seek the system with the fewest "flaws". I think we disagree on what those flaws are. The true flaw is Man. Man is, generally, selfish. Man, generally, lacks a desire to practice the regime of Charity. This is why your system cannot solve the problem. For all their initial good intentions, men like Robespierre and Trotsky couldn't fix the "flaws" because they misidentified what the flaws were. They caused more suffering in their short lives than they hoped to prevent, and their heads rolled just the same.
"Capitalism has inherent systemic flaws and crises like booms and busts."
Despite careful planning, Marxist economies faced these "flaws" too.
"Capitalism resorts to war and imperialism to maintain capital and compensate for these crises."
Captialism does nothing, individuals do everything. The inability of Marxists to see the individual for what he is... a creature with a great capacity for indifference and cruelty... is why Marxism cannot solve the "problem".
Simply put, you don't have the same perspective. You are looking in the wrong place, and it's actually quite accurate to say that you "can't see the forest for the trees".
Narland, Brewsterdam
Well, welcome back, folks. I hope everyone had a good Christmas and wish everyone a happy St. JohnÂ’s Day.
Kumquat Cove, Auxorii, Nova Xander, The Jamesian Republic, Brewsterdam
My Dad was raised Catholic. I was raised Protestant, mainly Baptist.
Good to have NS back
Narland
I hope everyone had a Merry Christmas who celebrated it, and if they didn't (or have yet to celebrate it) that is was or will be a good day for you.
An elder at church who recently moved over from England invited us over for a traditional English Christmas supper. :) I smiled and joyfully responded, "Thank you. So, you found the Spam tm aisle when shopping?" His wife laughed, but he didn't. :( But, overall, it was a very good meal, and a very pleasant evening. I have a strange suspicion that that I am going to get a can of spam put in my church stocking next year.
Kumquat Cove, Nova Xander, Brewsterdam
I was raised Protestant. I am neither.
Consul Elections have begun
Please note that since there are only two candidates, New Tampa and Nosam Republic, we already know who our consuls will be, regardless of the results. This election will decide the length the consulÂ’s term. the winner of the election will serve for six months, and the loser will serve for three months. This is because we would like to stagger the consul elections so that we arenÂ’t completely replacing the executive every election. I personally think that this might help prevent the executive from becoming too inactive. The loser of this election will serve for his three month term, and may run again, for a six month term, if he so chooses.
Kumquat Cove, New Tampa
Because elections have already started, and really, both candidates have already won, I think both can begin to exercise there powers as of now.
Brewsterdam
IÂ’ve always wanted to go to Britain and try the food and other things. ThatÂ’s neat.
Narland
Guess there’s a first for everything. Never heard “I want to go to Britain to try the food.”
Auxorii, Nosam Republic
I also want to see their Parliament building.
Auxorii
I would want to check that out and Lord's as well
Narland
I would strongly encourage everyone to vote against Tampa, because Tampa is a racist who doesnÂ’t like Asians.
Yikes. But who are they?
Are you still mainly Baptist? I grew up with one foot in the Society of Friends and the other in the Assemblies of God (with various Pentecostal affiliates). After leaving the nest, I to various community and independent churches. In middle age I've gravitated toward Edwards and the Westminster Standards.
For some reason the US military wouldn't let us near Parliament. Wander around the military research facility like bored tourists? Debug a live CIWS for fun? Eat fish and chips with French dressing? -- No problem. Visit Parliament -- Nope. It might be too disruptive. :) They didn't let US sailors do much.
Regarding British food, It was a real treat to be invited over this Christmas. When I was in England most Brits tried to accommodate us with American cuisine. Even when on the Irish Sea side and asking a random native about the best place to go out for fish and chips he directed us to a Skippers tm. There was a family run shop nearby that filled the bill.
Yes. IÂ’m still a Baptist.
Also I didnÂ’t know Parliament was so closed off. And I would like to eat real Fish and Chips.
The US naval command of our squadron was overly protective at the time. It was shortly after one of the ships was forever banned from one of the Med islands (Malta iirc). The Royal Navy gave us relative free reign during a temp transfer, but we didn't much shore leave.
What did they do that was so bad that Malta banned them?
I wasn't briefed so I don't know for certain. The most plausible rumor was that a sailor mishandled or took a displayed artifact that broke when he fought off the custodians. The other rumours sounded like typical sea stories.
I agree. ItÂ’s a shame that American sailors are banned from there.
If I had a lot of down time, I tried to get one town over to better know the natives, visit the natural history museums, engage the local culture. It might sound strange, but I would do things like sift and sort at some archeology digs, visit archives and libraries, and such. Some of the other sailors that wanted to visit the local wildlife in the bar districts instead, hated being paired with me. :)
Rateria
For me at least England will have to wait as my next trip is to Spain in March
Narland
The Yurt oh no, the UN
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