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Right-Winged Nation wrote:I will go first. Personally, if a woman virtually had no breasts I couldn't do it. If a woman did not necessarily have a backside but good breasts, I could do it.

I like breasts aswell. But strong emotional connection and a beautiful personality is much more attractive than physical features.

Ah, I just love the smell of chicken mixed with ketchup.

Milteria wrote:I like breasts aswell. But strong emotional connection and a beautiful personality is much more attractive than physical features.

Well obviously, but we are talking in theory.

Baphometus wrote:Ooh, feminist rant?

Plenty of women are superficial too.

So the mods just telegrammed me to knock it off, so I have to take down my comment about my running story

Zeouria wrote:Human sexuality is extremely important. Without it, we wouldn't be here today. Human sexuality shapes us in many ways. It shouldn't be locked up, but instead, open. We've been locking it up thousands of years and it's led to hatred of polygamists and homosexuality.

There's a difference between "keeping it open" and "airing your dirty laundry".

Durnit, I love a good feminist rant.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Ah, I just love the smell of chicken mixed with ketchup.

Chicken is always good.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:There's a difference between "keeping it open" and "airing your dirty laundry".

Come on, sometimes it's good to talk about these things.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:So the mods just telegrammed me to knock it off, so I have to take down my comment about my running story

Big Brother's watching us...

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Come on, sometimes it's good to talk about these things.

While no one should have to be ashamed of their sexuality, throwing the entire concept of shame out the window when talking about it is highly inadvisable. I'd prefer things not get unbearably lewd here.

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Republic Of Minerva wrote:Big Brother's watching us...

Exactly, makes me upset. Censorship because political correctness.

Censorship. Conformity. [B]Humpheria 2014*[/B].

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Humpheria wrote:Durnit, I love a good feminist rant.

Haha!

I can go on a good rant, that's for sure. But so called "guy talk" is not going to fuel my fire, if you will.

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Zeouria wrote:Humpheria. Sexiest campaigner alive. Oh... wait a second, that title belongs to NST. Sorry, humphy.

If that's how you feel, I'm not entirely certain I want your vote.

Zeouria wrote:As long as you're an actual feminist, and not one of those hypocrites who hate men, but call themselves feminists, then I'm fine.

I prefer the term 'gender egalitarian.'

Those are my favorite.

Humpheria wrote:Censorship. Conformity. [B]Humpheria 2014*[/B].

You would not force censorship and conformity on the people, would you?

I am bringing sexy back.

Humpheria wrote:If that's how you feel, I'm not entirely certain I want your vote.

It's not like you need it. No one is running against you.

The Amarican Empire wrote:It's not like you need it. No one is running against you.

NP is.

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Right-Winged Nation wrote:I am bringing sexy back.

It's already here. *drops mic*

Zeouria wrote:We're all consentually talking here. People consemtually read the posts, also. If for some reason it bothers them, that doesn't give you the right to suppress.

You're right, except for the fact that it isn't true.

Taken directly from the Etiquette section of the FAQ:

[B]Q: It's free speech, so I can post whatever I like here, right?

A:[/B] Ahahahaha! Hahaha! Free speech! No, it's not. I run this web site, see, so you have to play by my rules. It's like my own Father Knows Best state.

[B]Q: What can't I post?

A:[/B] Any content that is:

obscene

illegal

threatening

malicious

defamatory

spam

This applies to your nation's name, motto, and other customizable fields, any messages you write, images you post, or any other content you upload or link to NationStates. If you do, your nation will be deleted. See the site's Terms & Conditions and One Stop Rules Shop for details.

...So, yes, I have a vague idea as to why the moderators have gotten involved here, and I would personally prefer that this conversation end just in case their telegram to RWN isn't the last of it.

The Amarican Empire wrote:It's not like you need it. No one is running against you.

I don't know about that - his opponent, Northern Prussia, is a somewhat decent contender, and there are likely to be more nations to come out of the woodwork seeking the Presidency for themselves.

Zeouria wrote:As long as you're an actual feminist, and not one of those hypocrites who hate men, but call themselves feminists, then I'm fine.

I prefer the term 'gender egalitarian.'

Man hate is just that, feminism is for the advancement of all sexes. Sexual identity is not black and white.

Humpheria wrote:It's already here. *drops mic*

DAMNNNNNNNNNNNN

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Zeouria wrote:I've broken all of those besides threatening and spam, then.

I don't want to know what illegal stuff you've posted.

Zeouria wrote:There are male and female. If a person is female, but is transgender and is actually a man, than he is a male. Same thing the other way around. Gender fluency is fine, but they shouldn't get their own gender title.

And why not? Do you think oppressing someone from being who they want to be is an okay thing to do? If someone identifies as neither male or female that is their personal choice, and as such, does not affect you.

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Zeouria wrote:Just about minor drugs, that's all. It all matter what state you're in too, or what nation.

I don't think there's anywhere where talking about drugs is illegal.

Except maybe North Korea, but then you really don't have anything at all there anyways.

Moving from obscenity to illegality...will we ever have a normal conversation?

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Moving from obscenity to illegality...will we ever have a normal conversation?

You just described a normal conversation.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Moving from obscenity to illegality...will we ever have a normal conversation?

What is a normal conversation?

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Moving from obscenity to illegality...will we ever have a normal conversation?

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Humpheria wrote:haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

OHHOHHOH THAT SLAPS ME ON THE KNEE

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Zeouria wrote:How is not having "Male; Female; Gender Fluent" on job applications oppressing people who are gender fluent. You've created a straw man argument, my friend. You've taken my post and made into something it is not. I am not attempting to oppress anyone. I even said "gender fluent is fine..."

Fluid...the word you're looking for is fluid.

Take it from someone who has a number of acquaintances with gender dysphoria - attempting to assign pronouns to other people on an arbitrary basis isn't going to work. They have to choose those for themselves.

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Zeouria wrote:How is not having "Male; Female; Gender Fluent" on job applications oppressing people who are gender fluent. You've created a straw man argument, my friend. You've taken my post and made into something it is not. I am not attempting to oppress anyone. I even said "gender fluent is fine..."

No, labeling someone as "gender fluent" is the problem. You stated: There are male and female. If a person is female, but is transgender and is actually a man, than he is a male. Same thing the other way around.[/I] Gender fluency is fine, but they shouldn't get their own gender title[/I]. My response is geared towards the fact that you said they shouldn't not get their own gender title.

Zeouria wrote:'Normal conversation' is completely subjective.

By "normal" I mean whatever other regions do that passes for conversation without raising the moderators' eyebrows.

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Zeouria wrote:

Then, let them choose for themselves, I don't care.

Exactly!

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There is a difference between gender and sex. Gender is what you feel that you are. Sex is what you are biologically.

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Zeouria wrote:I honestly don't care, really. It's just my opinion on gender fluidity, or whatever.

Gender fluidity isn't a gender. One day, one week, or one month, you want to be a women. The other day, well or month, you choose to be a man. You are still a gender. There are no other genders, unless cut your sexual organs out of your body and don't culturally accept a male or female look.

Don't hate tsar

Baphometus wrote:There is a difference between gender and sex. Gender is what you feel that you are. Sex is what you are biologically.

Intriguing concept that I'm surprised I have not yet heard yet.

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Zeouria wrote:Don't hate? Gender Fluidity isn't it's own gender. It's no different really than being transgender, you're born a man but you're actually a woman. Then, you're a women.

But what if you decide your born both or identify as neither?

Milteria wrote:But what if you decide your born both or identify as neither?

You do not decide that you're born with both.

You're either born with a Y chromosome or you're not.

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I have friends that are gender fluid....

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Well, I generally identifiy as a male, but on occasion, I do not.

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Zeouria wrote:What about it? Did you tell them they're not a gender on there own? Because they choose either male or female?

Tsar you are not a Libertarian just because I say so.

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This is one of my pet peeves. One can be an effeminate man, a masculine woman, or one that feels like a human rather than a gender. But you cannot have male reproductive organs and make the conscious decision to be a female. I don't play "Against God's will" crap. It is just not natural.

See. You can't tell someone that they are not who they are. Of course you are a Libertarian tsar.

That was my bit of stuff to make pretty much every teenager on earth angry, so good night.

Zeouria wrote:I'm extremely libertarian, much more than you. :p

You should add yourself to the political crowd chart.

Tsar that's debatable. We are both Libertarian but we can't say who is more Libertarian. We view libertarianism threw different lights. I view it threw a yellow light. You view it in a red light.

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The Amarican Empire wrote:Tsar that's debatable. We are both Libertarian but we can't say who is more Libertarian. We view libertarianism threw different lights. I view it threw a yellow light. You view it in a red light.

Anarchism without Adjectives. Coexistence. Stop fighting one another, smash the state. Voluntaryism. Agorism. Syndicalism. Direct Action.

Zeouria wrote:And if you're "neither", then you're not a gender at all.

That's me, really. I am pretty genderless. I could be masculine, feminine or neither.

Zeouria wrote:If you're neither, than you're gender neutral. A gender fluid person is a gender neutral person, really. They decide what they are when they want. Gender and sex still fit together, though. If k state "I'm a women", I still have ample reproductive parts. If the other day I state "I'm a man", I'm a man.

It's not a gender, and I believe gender fluidity isn't natural. But, in the end, who cares about what I say? Anyone's aloud to call themselves what they want to be and be who they want to be. But, let's come to facts. Gender fluidity isn't a gender on its own.

You really need to read about the 200+ genders one can be. Gender Fluidity is natural because it occurs, and the world is natural, thus it's natural. Just like homosexuality. Perhaps it's not how the body is designed, but the mind's chemical balances are not entirely manifested by the genitalia.

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The Amarican Empire wrote:Tsar that's debatable. We are both Libertarian but we can't say who is more Libertarian. We view libertarianism threw different lights. I view it threw a yellow light. You view it in a red light.

If you aren't a hardline minarchist, Nozickian minarchist or an anarcho-capitalist, you are not purely a right-libertarian. Objectivism, Paulite Libertarianism, Classical Liberalism and Fiscal Conservatism aren't libertarian. They are conservatism/liberalism with libertarian aspects.

That's probably my biggest issue with that topic. There are are over 200 genders. Why do we have to label everything? Why can't we just live minding our own business? Why does there have to be a name slapped on everything? Why should I care if you're apart of the LGBTQIAA!@#$%^&*(_)ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZQ123456789 Alliance?

Stop labeling everything. I prefer a world where we do not force very different things to be equal, rather we are ignorant to these differences in a societal sense.

Zeouria wrote:There are no other f**king genders! Male and Female. Either way you're one! That's the entire point of gender fluidity!

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2014/02/heres-a-list-of-58-gender-options-for-facebook-users/

This is just for Facebook. There are dozens that aren't on that list.

Humpheria wrote:That's probably my biggest issue with that topic. There are are over 200 genders. Why do we have to label everything? Why can't we just live minding our own business? Why does there have to be a name slapped on everything? Why should I care if you're apart of the LGBTQIAA!@#$%^&*(_)ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZQ123456789 Alliance?

Stop labeling everything. I prefer a world where we do not force very different things to be equal, rather we are ignorant to these differences in a societal sense.

It's too late for ignorance in a societal sense. The word is out.

It should just be called "Gender and Sexuality Equality". From there, any individual can express how they feel and no one gives a sh!t.

Nst Anarchist Interregional 1St Division wrote:It's too late for ignorance in a societal sense. The word is out.

It should just be called "Gender and Sexuality Equality". From there, any individual can express how they feel and no one gives a sh!t.

You were also mixing gender and sexuality, which are different.

http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=7.38&soc=-0.82

My spot

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Nst Anarchist Interregional 1St Division wrote:It's too late for ignorance in a societal sense. The word is out.

It should just be called "Gender and Sexuality Equality". From there, any individual can express how they feel and no one gives a sh!t.

But not everyone is equal. Using the word equality is such a turn-off. I hate to use images to prove points, but I feel that it is necessary.

http://www.bookwormroom.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Equality-and-Justice.jpg

By spouting equality, you are being a detriment to your own movement. Whether one agrees with you or not, you cannot deny. The majority of your movement want equality for the countless sub-gender/groups/everything, and thus superiority over conventional genders simply because they are the majority. A common fallacy.

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It is a computer program. It was made by one person so it's based on his belief on my answers.

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Humpheria wrote:But not everyone is equal. Using the word equality is such a turn-off. I hate to use images to prove points, but I feel that it is necessary.

http://www.bookwormroom.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Equality-and-Justice.jpg

Libertarian solution: remove the fence

Humpheria wrote:This is one of my pet peeves. One can be an effeminate man, a masculine woman, or one that feels like a human rather than a gender. But you cannot have male reproductive organs and make the conscious decision to be a female. I don't play "Against God's will" crap. It is just not natural.

^

Wow didn't expect these results

http://www.isidewith.com/results/615746931

What the. This test says I am a Christian Nationalist. I am not a Christian Nationalist I am an American Nationalist.

If I was a Christian Nationalist I would not pretend to be asleep to skip church.

ditto, 94% Libertarian

http://www.isidewith.com/results/570805239

The Amarican Empire wrote:It is a computer program. It was made by one person so it's based on his belief on my answers.

It's not made by one person. With that score, you are really barely scratching the surface of the ideology of freedom.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:ditto, 94% Libertarian

http://www.isidewith.com/results/570805239

iSideWith is garbage, as are all American Political Party systems. Use Political Compass. The American Libertarian Party is a joke, and Rand Paul is a conservative in sheep's clothing, trying to gain the Young Republican voter group by not being a d!ck about drugs and LGBT+. There is no legit "libertarian" movement in America, outside of the small amounts of fringe groups.

Humpheria wrote:By spouting equality, you are being a detriment to your own movement. Whether one agrees with you or not, you cannot deny. The majority of your movement want equality for the countless sub-gender/groups/everything, and thus superiority over conventional genders simply because they are the majority. A common fallacy.

By equality, it means LGBT+ having the same rights as other people (Some places they do, some they don't). If you don't believe in that, I suggest you find comfort in that Diner down the street that's going out of business.....it's called Social Conservatism. No one wants superiority over conventional genders, just the same rights everyone else have.

Stop calling it "My Movement". It's a socially liberal movement. No libertarian opposes LGBT+ Rights, that is almost a fundamental part of libertarian social practice, along with drug legalization and gun ownership. To oppose those makes you socially authoritarian, thus, not libertarian by definition.

Humpheria wrote:This is one of my pet peeves. One can be an effeminate man, a masculine woman, or one that feels like a human rather than a gender. But you cannot have male reproductive organs and make the conscious decision to be a female. I don't play "Against God's will" crap. It is just not natural.

Perhaps, if you simply deny Gender Dysphoria as a thing. People develop the wrong chemicals during sexual development, and the end up being the wrong sex for the gender their brain is hardwired to feel and function as. They aren't just "deciding" to "become" female. They go through treatment for a disorder, because their brain is built for a girl, but they're a guy, or whatever. If there is a imaginary man in the sky, we shouldn't base anything of him, especially society, because he's a jerk. Ya know isn't natural? Roads. Buildings. Dry Fit shirts. Ya know what is natural? Gender Dysphoria, Homosexuality, etc.

The Amarican Empire wrote:What the. This test says I am a Christian Nationalist. I am not a Christian Nationalist I am an American Nationalist.

Nationalism is pretty authoritarian. Belief that the territory claimed by one regional monopoly on the initiation of force is better than any other territory claimed by rival monopolies of the same nature would just be state-pride. And what exactly does America have to be proud of? #1 in the World in Incarceration Rates?

Zeouria wrote:If you're a transgender man, than you're a man! My god! How many times do I have to state this sh!t?

What if you are Bigender? Pangender? Fluid? What about Neutral? It is all about self-identification. I really feel genderless. I do things that may be socially considered "masculine" or "feminine", but I don't really identify strongly with either, and no other genders describe me. So, I'm, in a sense, agender. Call me what you want, I don't really care. I dress as a guy because I am sexually male and go to an all guys school.

I'm not a social conservative, and I don't oppose your movement, I just don't like the labels.

In other news, there was a wasp in my house and I through a shoe at him. Now I cannot find his body and I hear a faint buzzing everywhere I go. This will be my last post.

So, apparently people have decided to go ahead with Robin William jokes already. This one was on the internet which was horrible: "Hearing about Robin William's suicide was more tragic than one of his movies."

Right-Winged Nation wrote:So, apparently people have decided to go ahead with Robin William jokes already. This one was on the internet which was horrible: "Hearing about Robin William's suicide was more tragic than one of his movies."

...well his movies weren't too good.... but he was a comedian and i dont think he would want everyone to be so miserable, i think he would want jokes (good ones) and laughter.

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