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Region: Libertatem
I appreciate it, but the system I have is a little smaller. More like CFN's system. But aspects of JUDICIAL will definitely be used.
Looks like Pop beat me to the punch - it is indeed worth checking out the IRU's JUDICIAL Act if you are in need of inspiration, whether in whole or in part.
As for what CINDEI is... well, you've seen the "Envoy Unit One" that I placed here before replacing it with this puppet, right? It's those things - the aim of it is for me to move these puppets to various regions in order to fulfill an objective: Phase I was checking up on the IRU's allies, and Phase II... finding new signatories for REATO and potential participants in a brand new defense pact (which would make REATO's job easier).
Sister Region Program:
A special program created by the Humph/RWN administration to increase international activity and strengthen the bonds of friendship with a region that can really have our back.
What it includes?
- Automatic free borders and certain tourist visas
- Physical embassies with ambassadors
- Bi-monthly state visits. The two heads of state will travel to the sister region so that they can address the population and the host region can display itself, its culture and government, and celebrate the relationship
Current applicants: (five minutes after a telegram was sent to all of our serious embassies)
Commonwealth Of Free Nation (HoS: [nation=short]Markotovia[/nation])
If you are from another region and you are interested, contact me or [nation=short]Condealism[/nation]
Austex
I'm really looking forward to it :)
Also, I am technically the Head of Government, not Head of State.
My mistake. I assumed that you took on that role with Silver's inactivity.
Interesting idea - I'll update the State Department factbook with this new program soon. Question: What do the free borders and visas entail?
Free borders: free movement between the two regions as long as one of them isn't on lock down.
Visas: sort of like a temporary citizenship if you will be travelling to the sister region for more than 12 hours, for vacation or just going somewhere to unwind or work on a specific something, or whatever.
This might require our citizenship laws to be slightly amended, but I don't anticipate that being a problem... though I'm not sure what benefit temporary sort-of-citizenship would provide.
Not exactly citizenship, not voting or anything, or just basic rights and protections, rather.
Erm... okay.
It sounds kind of gimmicky to me, but I guess it could serve as a form of appreciation for regions with such strong ties to us. I'll see if I can spruce it up.
Not necessarily. I would like to go to a different region sometime just to take a break from it all, but most regions have pretty strict citizenship (which grants legal protections and rights), including CFN. Having a visa of sorts (not a set-in-stone entirely thought out idea) would provide this temporary protection and whatnot. That is also not the only aspect of the program.
Alright, I've updated the factbook - I'm just waiting to receive more information before I complete it.
By the way, citizens of Libertatem, please apply via telegram (to me) if you wish to become a diplomat.
Ah. I'll wait for the formal proposal. It could be a great thing.
Hey all
Humpheria
Is this correct?
Seat One: TNUS (RLP)
Seat Two: Vacant
Seat Three: Minecraft (RLP)
Seat Four: Right-winged nation (RLP)
Seat Five: The Aradites (RLP)
Not with that spelling. :P
Rateria
Jesus H. Christ. That is the first time I have misspelled it in two years. Give me a break.
Miencraft
Change is a coming
Whatchu mean? If its any change other than Humph/RWN, you can keep the change. But take Humph/RWN change. Its good change.
Right-Winged Nation
It is only when the people become ignorant and corrupt, when they degenerate into a populace, that they are incapable of exercising their sovereignty. -James Monroe
Thoughts?
Pevvania
All Interior Ministry factbooks have been posted except the main factbook, which should be up shortly.
Factbook is up; https://www.nationstates.net/nation=kings_island/detail=factbook/id=476616
Who the hell is downvoting all of these?
Pevvania
Protip: url syntax is {url=http://whatever.whatever}text{/url}. I've noticed you did it wrong in the factbook.
Obviously use square brackets instead of the squiggly ones.
Archmont would be very interested in either of these programs.
I am very interested and I just let the IRU know about it.
Thank you, it's been fixed.
On an unrelated note, I've posted a brief introduction for POG. Pevvania, could you please add it to the party page and add that the party controls the Interior Department? Thanks.
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=kings_island/detail=factbook/id=476623
Pevvania
Hello all!
I am the puppet of the NationRuclax
It's an honor to draft such a Bill and help this region expand it's legal and judicial horizons!
I promise to give you all my best work!
If you have any questions, comments and or concerns feel free to contact me anytime on this account!
Miencraft, Humpheria, Rateria
A friendly hello from Gay Equality. That's it, just hello!
Miencraft, Tyrinth, Pevvania
Hello to you too!
Happy September! For many this is back to work/university/school time. All the best.
Pevvania, The New United States, Rateria
Good afternoon, Libertatem. I apologize for my recent inactivity. I will be posting more on the RMB in the future.
Done.
Howdy, friend!
Hi everyone. I believe that the new administration will do great things.
Miencraft, Pevvania, Humpheria
Hillary Clinton compares pro-life Republicans to "terrorist groups":
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/27/politics/hillary-clinton-republicans-terrorist-groups/
Well, this is a good way to win independent voters.
Miencraft, Tyrinth, The New United States, Rateria
Looks like I'm the last LP member, whoop whoop!
Miencraft, Pevvania
I always felt like defending the lives of the unborn was just a stone's throw away from throwing homosexuals from rooftops and executing infidels for not paying jizya. ;)
Miencraft, Pevvania, Rateria
Good for you. It's an historic party that sadly died with the CTE of Lack There Of.
Congrats to the new administration! Our people gladly await your achievements.
Pevvania, The New United States
That is disgusting. I'm a pro-life liberal who supports John Kasich. Why are the pro-lifers the terrorists? Over 50 million unborn US children have been slaughtered due to Roe v. Wade
The Law that will create our Judicial Branch is finished!
http://cfnforums.freeforums.net/thread/216/chambers-honourable-justice-alexander-ruclax?page=1&scrollTo=1824
Yours in the Law,
Alexander J. Ruclax
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=humpheria/detail=factbook/id=476966
I support the Third Branch Amendment and thank Ruclax for being so kind as to write it based on the courts that he created in the CFN.
I urge the Board to take it up.
Thoughts?
Hi all
It's certainly very offensive to 2/5ths of the US population. Can I ask why you support Kasich, of all people?
Well, John Kasich balanced Ohio's budget, expanded Medicaid, is not opposed to fighting poverty, and believes that we should reach out to the marginalized.
Grievous grammatical errors aside, it seems quite rambly and doesn't really get to the point very quickly nor illustrate that point very well.
As for that point, I personally don't think such a revision is necessary; some minor changes could be made to the justice department, sure, but it really doesn't see much action and when it does it does what it needs to do.
Something this major just seems to be a completely pointless addition to something that already does what it should do well enough. Like I said, it doesn't really do its job very often (because of course it doesn't need to very often), but when it does it works out fine with what we've already got. No need to fix what isn't broken.
When it does happen, it is slow, cumbersome and difficult to administer.
I don't see how the proposed change would help; if anything, I imagine it would either do nothing or slow it further.
There is no current efficient outline. Making specific people in charge of it rather than a series of long special appointment and what not is not beneficial.
Even still, there isn't much way with the proposed system to ensure, among other things, objectivity. It would help if the bill were written better, but from what I'm gathering the Chief Justice is elected... Sure, that's accountable, but then how do you make sure that they're going to objectively do their job without needing to boot them out and replace them with someone else?
Yeah, there's really no guarantee of that now, but it's better than what seems (if I'm reading this right) to just be a mess of elected people and people appointed by the elected people to try to fix the justice system but will only really end up confounding it even more because of how much nonsense you have to go through just to get everything set up. And then you still need to get juries for every trial on top of all that.
I agree with you, but Miencraft is right that it's too "rambly." It should be concise, to the point, like all of our other laws.
Miencraft
That's because the only Peron with experience in creating legal systems and real life legal experience is from a region where legislation is written like that.
Perhaps you, an experienced legislator, could re-write it to fit in with our precedents?
Its Ruclax's intellectual property, so if he were to give me permission to use the concepts, I could translate it out.
Miencraft
That's no issue with me, Humpheria, you may translate it out if the style doesn't fit the situation here.
Transcribed amendment is now up. Check it out. There are a few changes.
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=humpheria/detail=factbook/id=476966
What is the reasoning for there being no apparent avenue for removal of a justice between votes of retention?
So that the employment of the Justices are not influenced by political opinions. If a major vote is quickly approaching and a political bloc does not like how a Justice will vote, they would attempt to remove him and thus influence the law towards a populist direction. The law must be concrete and free from politics.
(This is also how lower justices are employed in most western nations)
How are we to then ensure that no unqualified or unprepared justices are ever appointed?
The Chief Justice is elected by the House, so he must prove himself/herself to the people first.
The two other Justices must be approved by the Board, so they must prove themselves to the Board, presumably by hearing.
No system is perfect, but this is great for that concern. Our current system is a judge appointed randomly, not exactly an extensive process.
Anybody online TG me please.
Guys, since my RP map failed considerably, I'm going to make animations with the map then. (TG me if you want to choose a place. Who don't choose I choose)
Today, I went to war.
What do you guys think of this? 'Jimmy Carter was a Better President Than You Think'
http://fee.org/anythingpeaceful/jimmy-carter-was-a-better-president-than-you-think/
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/11986370_1519109595046261_896841675729279800_n.jpg?oh=31f6962c82ee2300130534962166bb65&oe=56A9F18F
The New United States
It seems like every election recently there's a candidate with a strangely cult-like following on the democrats' side. It's kind of strange. I really don't see the appeal in Sanders.
Pevvania, The New United States, Republic Of Minerva
Ok, actually, now that it's been cleaned up and makes more sense, I like it a lot more.
Thus, I'll vote for it.
I'm a Republican :D Very fiercely conservative >:D But very liberal about Businesses and this sht. (Don't look at my nation as an e.g of my political views, k?)
New Shizturdea
Same as my nation. My real ideals are of Libertarian Autocracy. Look at Gharoukannia.
Brasil The Hueland
I urge the Board to carry the Third Branch Amendment to vote. So far, I have heard Right-winged nation's vote for, and Miencraft's vote for. The New United States and The Aradites, your votes are pending.
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=humpheria/detail=factbook/id=476966
I happily vote Aye for this Amendment.
3/4 it will pass the Board now.
Do I hear a motion from the House to bring it to a vote?
Statism is a disease...
Pevvania, The New United States, Rateria, The Victorium Republic, -Kou-
I motion that The Third Branch Amendment be voted on i the house. ;)
It's up.
Pursuant to the Constitution, the House will have five days to vote on this legislation.
And Libertatem is the cure.
Miencraft, The New United States, Humpheria, Rateria, Austex, Brasil The Hueland
I support and will vote for the Third Branch Amendment. It is a creative and well-written bill that addresses the need for judicial reform and improves upon this bill's predecessors, like the COURT and APPEAL Acts.
Humpheria
All hail the state!
It was quiet yesterday.
*glares*
*raises index finger in front of lips*
ssshhh....
Oh so you're capitalist like me :)
C4SS: thoughts?
3left6mebro
https://c4ss.org/content/39598
Are libertarians really left wing, though? If you have a principled opposition to the state - including all of it's forms, are you not similarly against the hierarchies created by the state, and therefore "left wing?" By textbook definition, ofc.
It's worth noting that definitions change, and compared to the modern "left" that mostly consists of edgy marxists and antifascists, these guys are a minority. The modern defined left (not C4SS) assumes that all voluntary exchanges must be a form of exploitation, yet they offer no possibility that these exchanges could exist without intervention by the state, be less exploitative in practice, and allow true "socialism" to be practiced within it.
Brasil The Hueland
Anything by Long is actually good:
https://c4ss.org/content/25648
Actually, let's think about it.
Fascism: Nothing against the state or out of the state.
Socialism: The state literally controlled everything. The economy, the media, your wage, literally everything.
Conclusion: Fascism = Left?
According to C4SS, fascism and state socialism are right wing, while libertarianism of all kinds is left wing. This goes back to the French revolution, where classical liberal Bastiat sat on the left in opposition to the monarchy, and apparently he sat right next to Proudhon.
Unsurprisingly, on this axis, modern progressives would be center-right.
What this demonstrates is that the left/right scale can be a dangerous thing because there is such a huge variety of definitions for it. E.g. in Europe (where I come from) people tend to see the left/right scale not as a scale of progressivism/conservatism but a a scale of economic beliefs. From this point of view "liberals" i.e. people that support liberties and believe that the state should not interfere with the free markets because it is inefficient and slows down the economy are considered "right wing" and "left wings" are the ones that call for statism and redistribution of properties.
I don't gaf about left and right. I put it down to a liberty vs authority scale.
Rateria
I think the United States would have been left a freer country had Al Gore been elected President. Tax cuts, a promise of spending restraint and probably a bit less war are potentially what a Gore presidency would have been like.
Three and a half days left and the TBA is really heating up!
If you don't mind me asking, where exactly are you from?
I'd say monarchists are pretty redistributory - all wealth goes to the king. Yet free marketeer Bastiat was on the left side of the assembly in France.
How come fascists are seen as "extreme right wing" (not sure about Europe, but in the UK definitely) then when in some cases they promote more social welfare than the current center-right? As the C4SS article said, it's impossible to put Hitler (social authoritarian) and Gary Johnson (ultra free marketeer liberal) on one side of the spectrum together.
People,
Pevvania the Democrat.
Pevvania
Alternatively, though, I think a McCain or even a Romney presidency could have been slightly better for liberty than Obama. Same wars, civil liberties violations, bailouts... But a slightly more neoliberal economic policy.
Brasil The Hueland
Romney, maybe. I think McCain would of sucked tho
I wonder how a Gore presidency would've handled 9/11.
"The glaciers are far more important than those towers or whatever. What is everyone freaking out about?"
Miencraft, Tyrinth, Pevvania, Rateria, Austex
So far we have two prospective Sister Regions.
Commonwealth of Free Nations
Gay Equality
Please send me a telegram with which one you would prefer to establish relations with.
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