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Region: Libertatem
This is not a lie. We plan on getting you scumbags out of power.
Now it's personal.
I mean, I don't care if you campaign, that is how you win. But, did you really have to straight call Pev a dictator. I thought that we could maintain a level of respect, but I suppose not. How are we not fair? How is this not fun? You start to lose so you shoot this kind of rhetoric every which way. I jut thought that we could prevent stooping to this level. Why do we have to insult each other. Why can we not just have a civilized election just once! All I ask is to just remain civil, respectful, maybe even friendly for once in the place. I mean come on! Scumbags? Was this entirely necessary? Have we resorted to petty name-calling to degrade opponents? It is no secret that you two hate Pev, but do you have to so blatantly insult people? Why can't we all just take this for what it is? A GAME!!! WHY CAN'T WE JST PLAY A GAME?
And you are apart of the RLP! If we wanted to create some political super-dynasty, why would we vote for a minority candidate?
Wow Hallo. We may be opponents but your use of ad hominems is totally inappropriate.
"Monopolize"?
How does like-minded fiscally responsible Libertarians running for office monopolization. This "Reaganist Dynasty" is jut a rhetorical device thought up By Hallo to win an election. RRRG has now taken up the fight to win his own election.
Your apart of the RLP RRRG, but you want to take it out of power? I just don't understand.
Withdrawn my vote from RRRG and put it in for Amarican.
No, he is convinced that the only way he can win is negative ads and character attacks. I am so mad right now. I get that you want to win, I do. But, this is supposed to be a game, fun, a place to make friends. Not lash out and insult everyone that disagrees with you and stands in your way to a place of power on your conquest of Libertatem. I am even more appalled that he tricked RRRG into jumping on the bandwagon.
If any don't believe me:
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=ok8psi&s=8#.U1nGplVdXU8
I am literally fuming in anger at this. Goodnight Libertatens. Hallo. RRRG.
The Majority of the people,Socialism was not favored by the majority
TTA was not banned because The Majority of the Board did not like him. He was banned for his Crimes against the region, Would you Pardon TTA and let him back in if you could. Who says he would not betray this region again. I am Guessing that the majority of the Board are Mature and would put their personal feelings aside when making that Choice.
Remember how Humpy for example went at TTA for not doing his job for his beliefs. now why would he turn around and Ban TTA for Personal Opinions on TTA. I think you are Underestimating how Humpy thinks.
And that's why I'm voting RRRG this cycle
Alrighty time for a little address.
I independently, without Hallo, have realized these things. It is what I believe, and I only have stayed in the RLP because I like the platform of it. I'm not saying every member of the RLP is scheming, but I honestly have a feeling that some of us are. This isn't about hating on the RLP. That TG, simple political tactics. I have no attacks on Amarican. He's a good guy and I like him. Most of my minor attacks I've had to invent I'll admit. I'm not seeing how this should make you mad. I can't speak my mind in telegram format? What is this? All of you who have said anything about the TG are hypocrites. Saying I can't have free speech and what not. Wow.
Hallo puts it a bit harsh.
Hypocrisy at it's finest like I said above.
Neither of you like me. Most of you don't like me. It's been that way for a while now. What do I have to loose now?
dandy
"fuming". Glad I'm officially disowned now how awesome.
More hypocrisy. I can recall at least 2 instances within the last month you've done the same to me completely uncalled for.
Well great. I'm super excited to see all the butthurt on here tomorrow after this post and believe me I'm super eager to read the butthurt. Yay. Perhaps I should just leave after this since my political rep here has basically been reduced to 0. It's not something I'm too keen on but it may have to come to that. Ugh.
I'm just going to applaud you for simply organizing this post...lol
Thanks.
And good night all.
What BS, frankly, your putting words in my mouth. I supported you every election cycle up until this one. Had you been running against someone else, who do you think i would have voted for?
Your TG with MY edits. You want to talk about hypocrisy?
Hello there!
You are not usually active nor do I know you well so let me cut to the chase: I need your help.
The government of this region is primarily led by the Reagonist Libertarian Party. They will never admit it, but they seek to monopolize the region and keep a tight hold on it forever. I and fellow nations that stand against this really want to get them out of power and make it actually fair and fun to be in Libertatem. [B]"Except what i haven't told you is that I am an active member of the RLP. Since i am accusing people of being "butthurt", i got really butthurt when my RLP running mates didn't vote for me, so i made this little telegram so i can attempt to sabotage the presidential election. If i cant win RLP can't win![/B]
There is two things you can do right now to advance this plan:
1. Vote for The Objectivist Empire of Ronald Reagan and Rick Grimes on the regional poll right now for Board Seat 3.
2. Vote for The Political Joke of Hallo Island for president on Saturday, Sunday, or Monday.
It truly is a crime that they are basically holding this region at a dictatorship. You may not care too much. That is fine. All I ask for is your vote. What do you have to loose? Thanks for reading. Vote now!" [B]Basically holding a "dictatorship" that i helped establish, every law that was passed and every board decision i've helped participate in. I'm a real proponent for change.
Im going to say this now too,
If any of you think I'm trying to start an RLP dictatorship then tell me. Tell me now. If that happens to be a majority of you then I'll leave office. I mean it. I've done everything in my power here to expand freedom, create security, maintain stability, and create government transparency. I've never oppressed a single member nation here, I've followed all the laws. In the cases of TTA and Ipian I did what I felt was just and required of me by regional law. NOT ONE OF YOU SPOKE UP ABOUT DISAPPROVING OF MY ACTIONS. If it wasn't evident in my actions than I'll say it now, I've always been willing to compromise for the betterment of the region. I've never changed my stances of views here, I've always been this way. I appreciate the great responsibility i was given to help serve Libertatem. I love this region, I love the people in it. I will be, and always have been friendly and welcoming to EVERY ONE OF YOU that walks through the fantastical doors Libertatem, sans the trolls. I am vehemently against dictatorship, so I reiterate, if I'm being dictatorial tell me. I'll pack my things.
*claps*
My thoughts exactly, thank you for putting them into words that I could not.
1. I never tried to oppress your freedom of speech. But if you insult and plot against me, I'm gonna get mad.
2. Hallo did put it harsh, that's who you have become a slave to.
3. How was I a hypocrite? You know with all of your quirks you are absolutely the King of Rhetoric. Hallo isn't too bad either.
4. While I admit, especially now, I don't like you, that doesn't influence my vote. I agree more with Amarican. This is happening because of your actions.
5. You get what you give.
6. Please tell me those two instances when I resorted to character attacks. Besides Ipian, he was a criminal. Same with TTA.
The vote is currently 7-8 Amarican.
There have been more than a few character attacks against me.
Disagreement isn't character attacks.
If I win this seat I am going to do things differently. Every 2 weeks I will send a letter to every citizen asking what they want to happen in the region. I will find a way to address every issue that is concerned about.
Second I will organize my fellow board members to do one question the board day. On that day I will encourage the people to as questions about policy's and what the board is thinking about future policy. I will try to do this so the people are a little bit more connected with their board.
But, if I vote for your ideas, then I am perpetuating and RLP dictatorship and I hate the region. If I vote for you, I get attacked by your opponent for not voting for him.
All is fair in love and politics. I still like all if you on a personal level, for the record.
On a different note:http://www.nationstates.net/nation=muh_roads/detail=factbook/id=247170
Comments, critiques? Still very much in development.
That's a pretty good idea, Amarican. I'd also like to note that I am always up for criticism.
I like the page, and I very much like the office of Internal Affairs.
Me too. May not be happy with some certain people.
<3
Both Amarican and RRRG intend to promote progress and ideals in different ways. As I've said, both would be very suited for a Board position.
Also, I must warn members of minority parties, such as mine, not flame members of the RLP or insinuate that they are evil. The Reaganist Libertarian Party stands for everything they claim to stand for; they're not corrupt, at least not yet. I am only a part of the Minority Party Alliance because I believe healthy competition is in order. Let's keep it healthy, shall we?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You are officially one of my favorite people. But remember, this wasn't a Minority, this was a Reaganist who threw a tantrum because people were voting for the Minority.
Thanks, Humphy.
If RRRG really doesn't support the RLP, let him prove it. Perhaps now would be a good time for him to join a different party, or perhaps create his own.
Anyone can be in the RLP, including secondary memberships almost everyone is. And you can disapprove of some decisions and platforms. But, to outright call someone a dictator and evil, and then brush it off as "butthurt"? Really?
Acceptable names for our peeps:
Humpheria:
Humpheria
Humph
Hump
Humpy
Humphy
Dealer
Pevvania:
Pevvania
Pev
Pevv
His Majesty the Dictator
Muh Roads:
Muh Roads
Muh
Miencraft:
Miencraft
Mien
Conservative Idealism:
Conservative Idealism
CI
Condealism
Ronald Reagan and Rick Grimes
<Not typing it again>
RRRG
RRG
Hallo Island:
Hallo Island:
Hallo
That's everyone with nicknames, unless I missed something.
Sometimes I get called Roads
I'm gonna call you "of". of Muh Roads.
He's muh hero
Humph, that disrespect is unacceptable. You refer to me as Eternal Leader.
You can just call me babe ;)
Jesus Christ, sometimes I feel I need to hire a secretary on this game.
I've been swamped by telegrams. What do you guys need from me?
Seat gets hot bro.
I am so lonely, I wish I got more than one telegram a day. No one ever wants to talk to me.
You might as well just crawl up and CTE.
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You will never leave us.
Awww :)
Pev has his grumpy shorts on today =P
Yeah well you should just move to Somalia.
I always liked you Muh Roads.
Okay =[
Did i do good?
How? He is high member of the scary RLP dominion that you hate so.
I never said I hated the RLP...
I've enjoyed reading some of [nation=short]Hallo Island[/nation]'s campaign literature. Some of it is filled with utterly unabashed lies. From The Liberty Gazette:
"The RLP may tell you that they have defeated 113 communist regions during Pevvania's administration, but, what they don't tell you, is that many of said regions were just small, harmless, inactive regions. Why do they make these out as such huge victories? In the 140+ days Pevvania has been in power, the RLP has told you that everything is going great and things are just peachy here in Libertatem. Well, this is not true. we need to begin to think larger than these tiny fake victories, and begin to take down the large communist regions. These are the real enemies. If Hallo Island is elected, Libertatem will bring the NS left to their knees."
So, in other words:
"I don't know a thing about current military strategy nor have I familiarised myself with any of our recent victories. It doesn't matter to me that the majority of large Communist regions have non-executive delegacies and active founders that we couldn't get within a mile of, nor do I care of the strategic importance of these minuscule 30-man regions we're targeting. And even though the military has destroyed several of the largest Communist regions on NationStates and are in the process of taking even more down, I'll choose to ignore them for political purposes. Vote for Hallo, vote for a big plan to take down the Commies! What's the plan? That's a secret, but you can be sure that we'll get plenty of large ones, even though I've had nearly no military experience whatsoever!"
[B]Hallo Island 2014[/B]
I don't know what I'm doing, but just trust me on this.
But this is my favourite part: "If Hallo Island is elected, Libertatem will bring the NS left to their knees."
Yeah, not like they're not on their knees right now.
:(
Remember that ya'll can call me Alchandria if you like, as I'm pretty sure saying my name is blasphemy.
Haha
Dang hechimg populist. Does anyone remember the days when the board wasn't even elected? We've really lost something with this whole democracy thing. The board is supposed to act as a filter on the emotions of the people (sort of like the senate). We are supposed to make the right decisions regardless of public opinion. The house is where each nation gets their own voice.
Would it be offensive to just call you god? Cause im probably gonna do that.
Not in a worshipping way of.course. The only thing I.can trust is the conch.
I simply believe that the RLP has too much power. Give the minor parties a chance, guys.
Then why are you voting for Grimes?
What do Libertarians think of Catmunism?
wut?
It's evil.
Why is it our fault that the minorities don't get elected. Do you just expect us to step down?
Correction: you are my favorite person here.
It's not about the parties. It's about who's fit for the job
Correction: you are my favourite person here.
That motif has come up quite a lot here. Criticizing a political party for having its members participate in most of the government isn't something very...reasonable. What's the goal of a political party? I'm fairly sure, on a basic level, it's the have its members be elected into the government. Degrading them for this is just as logical as denouncing someone for their success.
Post self-deleted by Ipian.
^
Post self-deleted by Muh Roads.
I like you. Why are you not a citizen? =)
I think he's been here long enough.
Post self-deleted by Ipian.
Well, we don't see your kind do terribly often, miss.
Well, she is a citizen now.
Has each candidate clearly laid out their platform or performed any speeches?
oooo
What's going on here, then?
The Chairman of the Board of Humpheria wrote:
Questions for Board Candidates:
1. What are your views on the War on Communism?
2. What will you do in office regarding the War?
3. What party do you affiliate yourself with?
4. Are you, in general, a liberal or a conservative?
5. Do you love me?
6. What do you see as the biggest issue regarding our region, what do you intend to do about this problem?
Ronald Reagan and Rick Grimes:
1. Let's keep it going. Why would we not do what this region is meant to do? The war itself is a waste of time though. But I still just hate how we pretend these regions of 4 countries really matter.
2. ll
3. I'm assuming this is real life yeah? At this point(and it pains me to say so) probably the democratic of the US.
4. liberal
5. No offense to the gays of this region, but this is really gay.
6. The arguably laughable "war" on communism. I can already feel the butthurt coming so allow me to explain. This is the internet folks. And on this site you can't just stop commies from creating more accounts or refunding a region. Nobody cares if the name of their region has been stolen because of a refounding. If anything, it'll only make them more mad. We have 112 nations and are in the top 100 now, which btw is awesome. But that doesn't even matter. Not at all. Some of these alliances are just huge. REATO honestly, is pretty freaking pathetic. Let's be honest with ourselves. If one of those top 50 regions had beef with us, they could wipe out every REATO country without breaking a sweat because we have no possible way of stopping them. Duh. The war is basically just a side activity for those that wish to participate. I am no altruist. I can endorse, but I will no longer openly participate(not as though I did much in the first place) in this war. Just think of how minuscule of a difference taking out one region makes. None. Sorry if this offends you or something, but you know it's true.
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Amarican:
Questions for Board Candidates:
1. What are your views on the War on Communism?
I want to Change the name to The War on Totalitarianism,not all Communists are bad.
2. What will you do in office regarding the War?
In office i hope promote a Liberation more Totalitarian regions.
3. What party do you affiliate yourself with?
I am a Member of the Paul Party
4. Are you, in general, a liberal or a conservative?
I am a Classical Liberal but in the modern day i lean Conservative.
5. Do you love me?
Yes i do love you Humpy.....No Homo
6. What do you see as the biggest issue regarding our region, what do you intend to do about this problem?
I see Inactivity as the biggest problem,we have over 100 members yet only 10-20 of them are active.
That's about all we have, sans the arguing. lol
We're trying to find a way to tie shoes without using your hands. =P
Velcro shoes
All the cool kids wear Velcro.
That is a good metaphor.
You can Velcro shoes without hands?
6-11 Amarican
It's a lot easier than laces.
Finally got the issue involving Roads =)
Post self-deleted by Ipian.
;)
There is just too much for me to respond to I don't even feel like it.
However, let it be known I have wanted to leave the RLP for a few weeks or so now, but why would anyone leave the biggest voting block in the region? Especially with an election coming up? That just doesn't make sense. Not like it has helped much, obviously. So, I officially switch my allegiance to Independent.
Join the LIP!
Tempting but I think Independent is right for me. At least for now.
Ok.
Muh I agree. "I hate the RLP, but they get me votes! SO GO REAGAN!"
On top of that he completely dismissed every one of our counterpoints, because he doesn't feel like it. [Sarcasm]This is the guy we need on the board[/sarcasm].
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