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Region: Libertatem
I would've jumped into the ones yesterday but I was at church.
I think that the winner should be chosen randomly. If I, the Founder or to a lesser extent the Board picks the winner, there's a clear conflict of interest.
Chosen Randomly?
The isn't a.....ummm.....What was that government you mentioned yesterday? Where the president was chosen at random?
Hallo 2014! Come on he runs for president in like every election. This will give him some experience.
We could have a second round.....
If you can find a way to fairly choose at random and announce the winner, it would still be an executive deciding, just at random. I'm game.
With the same results?
And he'll get it if he wins. But if Pev is going to choose at random, then he'll choose at random.
Results can change....With time.
I just find it better then choosing at random.
Well technically looking at it, they have both won, this is just deciding who takes the seat. I would vote the same way if there were a redo and I'm sure everyone else would to.
I know they both won. I just prefer. A second round of democracy before we let a machine pick who gets the seat.
AND WE DON"T HAVE TIME! This Board term starts tomorrow and we still have a another seat to vote for, can we get on with this and vote on NP vs. RRRG?
I want Liberosia to do it because he is actually neutral in this situation.
Well in the case of that.....ermmm You don't really have another choice.
Have Liberosia select the winner. He's fair.
Isn't ankha in that mix.
Actually, he's not. Just because an inactive nation doesn't vote doesn't mean they don't have an opinion. I like Pev's idea of random, thus no chance of partisanship. AND REQUEST THAT WE GET ON WITH THIS!
Nah, he's the AG.
Liberosia isn't active. And usually doesn't get on during the day.
Hmm....Fair point.
Okay roll the die, Use the RNG, whatever just solve this so the other elections can happen.
Thank you.
2 out of 3 random number gen?
I don't know what program Pev plans on using.
Maybe pev is using a magic 8 ball.
Well, I woke up too early, so I'm gonna go take a nap. Don't kill each other.
No promises. .....
Not as neutral as you'd think.
You sure about 2 out of 3? I will take screenshots of the process and post them here afterwards.
Maybe the magic conch will decide.
All hail the magic couch! Alololoolo
Seriously, this is a big thing. Are you sure you want me to do it 2 out of 3?
Hump is always right so sure.
Maybe someday.
This will be interesting
I will use the random number generator three times. A number closer to zero is a 'point' for Right-Winged Nation, and a number closer to 100 is a 'point' for Hallo Island.
Here we go.
No.
First point goes to Hallo Island.
http://i.imgur.com/hkgDYTa.jpg
How is that fair. it is 66% more likely that you will hit a number over fifty then one under fifty.
Or we could do odds and evens
How so?
Second point goes to Right-Winged Nation. This is one's going to be right down the wire.
http://i.imgur.com/CRloGdJ.jpg
Just watch. Do it three times.
2 will be over fifty 1 will be below fifty.
Simple math.
But how? And what way would be fair?
44
33
28
88
54
21
No.
Because logic.
66 is over fifty and 33 is under fifty. That's why. Obviously.
But it's a random number generator. You could get the number 12 ten times in a row.
Trust me. Just do it again. It will be over 50.
What would be a 'fair' alternative? 1 to 10?
It's chance too, I have 49 to 1, he has 50 to 100
15
No.
See That's why.....
No one To ten would be the same way. Rolling a 6 sided die would be better.
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Can we please run the third number please?
[nation=short]Hallo Island[/nation] has won the third point. Congratulations, you have now won Seat 4 for next month.
http://i.imgur.com/3MTCinr.jpg
I don't think you quite understand true randomness. You can attempt to understand it with mathematical logic, but the outcome as determined by math is almost never going to be the actual outcome.
Same here. I actually want to see if my flawed logic works in this case.
.....My flawed logic worked?
Hahahaha
This was a tight race, and unfortunately luck was not on my side this time, I wish the best for Hallo and hopes he does the job effectively.
Congratulations, Hallo.
And now that that's over, I have some RP news:
Regrettably, President Scriptorium has succumbed to his illness and died.
So hobby Lobby has won it's case and unions can't force membership and now this its going to be a good day.
What have I missed during the course of my hiatus?
Yassssssssssssssssss
It was a tie and Hallo won off a random generator
Yes it is.
Corporations win this time around.
We snagged International Socialists, the FRAUD Act was amended, the trial of TTA failed and now your brother is a Board Member-elect.
Wonderful.
It didn't just fail. Everything about it was illegal.........
And I had no clue I could Appeal on good behavior so....Yay for the fact it was all illegal and we need to do a repeat.
So uh, board seat 5 will be a hard choice.
That's a joke right?
No Religious Freedom won this time around.
It is
There were two cases.
I'm not a fan of Northern Prussia.
Same.
TTA, unions CANNOT force non-members to pay them. It's theft, plain and simple.
Fine Corporations and religious freedom won.
....Umm yeah I know. That wasn't sarcasm.
That's better!
Now let's continue to fight against Obama in his war against Christianity!
*Facepalm*
Fixed it for ya.
Sorry, I misread what you said. It's less a win for corporations than it is a win for the free market.
Maintaining secularism isn't a war on Christianity.
True.
Uh guys, am I a citizen yet? Because if I am, then RWN has won and there was no need for the random number simulation.
This is a fair point. But Secularism applies to government not corporation owners.
Pev. what was that one form of Government you mentioned yesterday? Randomly chosen leaders?
Wait a minute here...
No, you are not.
That sounds... Riggable
.......Hmmm....
I am now suspicious.
Very riggable.
Yes the government should not be able to force citizens to violate their religious freedom.
I question the identity of RRN
I applied last night, and I have met all the requirements, and now there is a delay on my citizenship, sounds like a conspiracy to me.
Bah that's BS. If Anything the leadership would've lined it up against Hallo because of the RLP.
But the point is they didn't so your conspiracy holds NO WEIGHT.
You applied last night. Much roads needs his beauty sleep.
Demarchy.
Wait they ruled Corporations are people......
Hehehe NOPE!
Thank you......I am going to make a movement about Demarchy in my nation.
Next elections issue. Should The Time Alliance adopt Demarchy
Oh, yeah, because people can definitely get to applications while they're asleep.
I just really wanted my vote to count
Also, you are not in WA, you have been inactive until RWN was up for candidacy, your nation is named similarly to RWN, and your flag is similar to his. Sounds like a conspiracy to me.
Ya muh roads needs his beauty sleep. You don't want to ask for citizenship when he doesn't.
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