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Region: Libertatem
Looking at the choices present, I'm guessing either anti-abortion or pro-gun.
Greater Columbion
The latter.
Rateria, Austex
Sanders, so I can watch everything fall apart and anarchy blossom. :)
Pevvania, Rateria
Hillary, but only because she is the smallest of three evils.
Greater Columbion
Height supremacist!
The Dark Lieutenant
Hilary is not the smallest of three evils. If anything, she's made it clear that she's not as wishy-washy as her husband - if elected, we'd be seeing a third consecutive term of destructive liberal policies.
Trump is similarly a joke; he'd probably put us into debt and in bad standing with our neighbors just as Hilary would, albeit for the opposite reasons.
Both "The Donald" and Clinton are bombastic and immature, not to mention that their policies - while different on a fundamental level - would promote businesses at the expense of the consumer.
Quite ironic, then, that the socialist taking office would be better for capitalism than the current fan favorites of the two major parties.
I'd pick Sanders over the other two for the following reasons:
1. Realistically speaking, Bernie doesn't stand a chance of winning.
2. He's a democratic socialist who advocates a smaller government, as opposed to a straw socialist who demands an all-encompassing nanny state.
3. He's neither a super-rich manchild nor a former first spouse; he lives not on an isolated ivory tower but as the majority of Americans do, and his moral principles at least bear some modicum of resemblance to the interests of the middle class.
Don't get me wrong - I don't much care for any of the three of them. I think they're total jokes.
It's just that the punchline to one of those jokes is that some of you can't help but recoil in mock horror when you hear one of them described as "socialist".
Miencraft, Rateria, Greater Columbion, Austex
Is it possible to obtain foreign citizenship here?
It would definitely be interesting to see how a self described democratic socialist would do with the reigns of the most power country in the world. Would he erode states rights? Fight the Patriot Act? Eliminate the death penalty? Implement a higher minimum wage? Regardless, if for some freak reason he does get elected, I might as well store up on gold before the eventual crash.
Rateria, Condealism, Greater Columbion
Apparently Sanders balanced the budget of Burlington, Vermont.
I think Hillary would be better because she would maintain the status quo, and is therefore the least of the 3 evils.
Anyways, #Rubio2016 lol
I hate them all but bernie is a socialist and clinton is a liberal and lying sack of sh*t, and i hate trump but at least he isn't anti-capatilsm(even though he practices crony-capatilism)
Greater Columbion
Cronyism is anti-capitalism.
I wouldn't vote.
Condealism, Austex
I had a terrible dream last night where mhomen launched a coup and took over Libertatem
Is this a sign?
Tyrinth, Kings Island, The New United States, Humpheria, Rateria, Condealism
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=354375
Muh Roads
Hi guys lol
Kings Island
True, if it is a Trump or Clinton ticket or a Trump or Sanders ticket I believe I will stay away from the voting polls
The New United States, Rateria, Condealism
I think what we don't need right now is more crony capitalism to cause problems to be blamed on actual capitalism.
Miencraft, The New United States, Rateria, Condealism, Greater Columbion
Ill support whichever candidate allows me to smoke weed and shoot my AR-10 in the privacy of my own home while talking on an unrecorded cell phone line and collecting rainwater.
Tyrinth, Rateria, Condealism, Austex, Awesomeface1122 Embassy
Post self-deleted by The Aradites.
Ah. A true Botulist.
Though you should absolutely be free to do so, I recommend not shooting an AR-10 inside your home.
Miencraft, Tyrinth, Humpheria, Rateria, Condealism
Lawd have mercy.
Rateria, Greater Columbion
I'm assuming most of y'all are Americans here, yea? So if the dollar was not the reserve currency, how would that change your fiscal policy if you were a statesmen?
That's a very offensive term, you know. We don't want to offend and otherize any of our non-United-Statesian Americans.
#PrivilegeChecked
Miencraft, Rateria, Greater Columbion
The problem being that the status quo sucks.
This, really. Cronyism may be pro-business, but capitalism is pro-consumer.
I agree wholeheartedly. The amount of economic illiteracy within the masses is too damn high!
Miencraft, The New United States, Rateria
The entire republican field keeps getting worse and worse, Ben Carson recently put his foot in his mouth about the whole muslim issue, and I can feel Fiorina will say something stupid now that she has the limelight.
Rateria, Greater Columbion
Except that your name says United States and this region is based off of the US republic. And I asked it in a question by saying "yea?".
But it could also be worse lol
Probably. I still am placing my bet on Rubio, as he is in it for the long haul is being quiet but not too quiet, proving he is a serious candidate.
"Government produces all order.
Under anarchy there is no government.
Therefore anarchy is chaos.
Q.E.D.
In Washington there isn't any plan
With "feeding David" on page sixty-four;
It must be accidental that the milk man
Leaves a bottle at my door.
It must be accidental that the butcher
Has carcasses arriving at his shop
The very place where, when I need some meat,
I accidentally stop.
My life is chaos turned miraculous;
I speak a word and people understand
Although it must be gibberish since words
Are not produced by governmental plan.
Now law and order, on the other hand
The state provides us for the public good;
That's why there's instant justice on demand
And safety in every neighborhood."
-David Friedman, The Machinery of Freedom
Working my way through the book. It's fantastic.
See for yourself:
http://daviddfriedman.com/The_Machinery_of_Freedom_.pdf
Pevvania, Rateria, Condealism, Greater Columbion
Once an honest man could go from sunrise to its set
Without encountering agents of his state or government
But a sorry cloud of tyranny has fallen across the land
Brought on by the hollow men who did not understand
That for centuries our forefathers have fought and often died
To keep themselves onto themselves, to fight the rising tide
That if in the smallest battles we surrender to the state
We enter in a darkness whence we never shall escape
[Chorus]
When they raise their hands up our lives to possess
To know our souls, to drag us down, we'll resist
[Verse 2]
Wat Tyler led the people in 1381
To meet the king at Smithfield to issue this demand
That Winchester's should be the only law across the land
The law of old King Alfred's time of free and honest men
Cause the people then they understood what we have since forgot
That the government will only work for its own benefit
And I'd rather stand up naked against the elements alone
Than give the hollow men the right to enter in my home
[Chorus]
[Bridge (x4)]
Stand up, sons of liberty, and fight for what you own
Stand up, sons of liberty, and fight, fight for your homes
[Outro]
So if ever a man should ask you for your business or your name
Tell him to go and fvck himself, tell his friends to do the same
Cause a man who'd trade his liberty for a safe and dreamless sleep
Doesn't deserve the both of them and neither shall he keep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk_6kwZbNJs
Rateria
Even for home invasion simulation? #readyforanything
Tyrinth, Austex
We like to parody extremism here.
It's a thing we do.
Also, the dollar sucks. Needs to be gold instead. That way you can actually feel what the entire economy of the planet is.
Pevvania, The New United States, Greater Columbion
Level IV plates can stop any type of 7.62x51. I recommend using a Barrett M107 for your home defense needs.
;)
Muh Roads
I agree with Carson, here. Islam is antithetical to our conception of liberty and to the principles upon which our nation was founded.
Greater Columbion, Austex
So is Christianity.
Rateria, Austex
Damn. I better get the popcorn.
Miencraft, Rateria, Greater Columbion, Awesomeface1122 Embassy, The Dark Lieutenant
*Hands popcorn*
Rateria, Greater Columbion
Plates are temporary protection, and they will break with enough hits. Oh and they don't make plates to cover the face, so aim for the melon.
* builds armoured popcorn stands and offers franchise rights for small fee *
Rateria
When does this start? I want to see this really bad
If it is, the nation's principals are wrong.
Pevvania, The New United States
Religious freedom? Or separation of church and state?
Here we go....
Greater Columbion
http://www.nationstates.net/page=show_dilemma/dilemma=446 Before it starts... this may be the greatest testimony for libertarianism
Very. Any nation that allows book burning, creationist fraud, denying woman's rights, etc. should be opposed, and it just so happens that Christianity and Islam at the two biggest culprits.
Rateria, Austex
I have class. I'll respond this evening.
Can't wait.
You realize nobody can see an issue if they aren't being confronted with it, right?
Austex
Ummm.... I'm not sure if you consider Catholic and Christianity the same thing, but of you do, there are major differences. They are the ones who you stereotypically picture as christains. Most protestants are OK with all books, support women's rights, and believe in only one god, no saints, no "holy Mary" etc. etc.
Rateria
Catholicism is a sect of Christianity though so it's totally legit to lump Catholics in with the other Christians.
Might not make sense since Catholicism has a history of being totally screwed up, but it's a legit comparison.
Rateria, Greater Columbion
Well, it's official, Scott Walker is dropping out.
Humpheria, Greater Columbion
It's not a "legit comparison" to hold all Christians to account for what the Catholics did. Catholics are a subset of Christianity, and not the other way around. I have no ties to the Catholic Church, besides the fact that my Protestant, Salzburger ancestors were expelled from their homes 300 years ago by the Catholic Church.
Rateria
Where in the scriptures are we told to burn books?
Yes, we should outlaw those, comrade.
Kinda like how the Utah territory's legislature unanimously voted to legalize women's suffrage in 1869, decades before it was even a state. Those darned Mormons. Always oppressing women and such.
Or perhaps you're trying to make the case that a woman has the innate right to kill their child, if it makes life convenient.
Elaboration, please?
Humpheria, Rateria, Greater Columbion, No Serfdom
Scott Walkin' away.
Miencraft, The New United States, Republic Of Minerva, Humpheria, Austex, Awesomeface1122 Embassy, The Dark Lieutenant
To better explain my point and ease misunderstandings, Catholics are much older than any other Christian religion; they are only christains because they believe in Christ, and use the bible. All else is different. To lump protestants and Catholics together, well, lets just say it'll get bloody.
Rateria
What
(19:19-20 KJV):
Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men: and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver. So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed.
Teaching it in public school, yes.
http://www.exmormon.org/mormwomn.htm
Your definition of a child does not equal the definition of a lump of skin cells.
Yeah, everyone knows it's not a real human until the self-ownership fairy waves her wand and magically transforms a clump of cells into an actual human being with rights.
The New United States, Humpheria, Condealism
Defending self ownership invokes the is-ought fallacy, and is in all purposes, irrelevant.
Only if you're an atheist.
Atheism is compatible with self ownership. But as an agnostic I find it wanting. Nothing entitles you to life, liberty, or property - these values need to be defended.
Austex
You linked to an issue.
Nobody can see issues they don't have.
Post self-deleted by The New United States.
The problem is, you are taking it out of context and reading into it what you want to hear. This is describing a group of repentant Ephesians, who would rather burn their books of sorcery, than sell them for their value of "fifty thousand pieces of silver."
I think the more important question is whether public education should exist in the first place.
That paper is full of inaccuracies, half-truths, and falsehoods.
Women in the Church are not oppressed. Women are not inferior to their prepubescent boys (seriously, I've never heard anything so absurd in my life). There is no religious community in the world that respects and reveres women and the roles they play as does the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Humpheria, Awesomeface1122 Embassy
But I guess that adhering to gender norms is just the most deadly weapon in male patriarchy's arsenal.
Humpheria, Condealism, No Serfdom
Keep praying to your sky fairy!
http://files.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/bad-job-600x388.jpg
Feeling euphoric today?
Tyrinth, The New United States, Condealism
Advantage: TNUS.
Does the floor recognize a rebuttal from the Honorable Athiest from the Great State of Denial?
The New United States
KJV is false; only hard core old Catholics and JW's use it... Multiple inaccuracies, false translations...etc. etc.
That's not really true.
A lot of protestants use KJV and I'm pretty sure JW uses it's own translation.
Sky fairy.
http://www.rainbow-magic.com.au/images/ruby.jpg
That's true. Witnesses use the New World Translation, if I recall correctly. We Latter-day Saints use the KJV, though, with some translations made by Joseph Smith to complement it.
Anti-theists.
http://adam4d.com/new-atheism/
Why didn't Romney win if he was wearing his magical underwear. ANSWER THAT MORMON!
The New United States, Rateria, Greater Columbion
Is it weird that I switched from the NIV to the New American Standard because I am an American nationalist? Lol
The New United States
Ha, maybe. I don't have much experience with anything but KJV, but I'd say it would perhaps be wiser for you, when choosing your bible, to consider the quality of the translation, rather than whether or not it's 'Murican.
Then again, the Book of Mormon is totally 'Murican, so I'd recommend that. ;)
Greater Columbion
I CAN'T!!!
*overturns desk and begins weeping*
I've already read it in NIV and KJV :p
Anyone play Watchdogs? Because I read an article about the US gov and AT&T teaming up to turn 10 major American cities into "Smart Cities". Is it me or does this just seem like a bad idea? Lol I mean, with all the hacking and cyberattacks, it's not difficult to imagine a terror attack on our vulnerable cyber infrastructure, and connecting that to our material infrastructure just seems like bad planning.
Miencraft, Rateria
Started playing it, didn't really enjoy it, and so I stopped. I see what you are saying though.
Greater Columbion
Really? That's my destress game lol Blow sh!t up, shoot people and get into a police chase....oh yea....destressed lol
Rateria
There are no controversies in the Holy Church of Roads.
Miencraft, Tyrinth, The New United States, Humpheria, Rateria, Condealism, Greater Columbion, The Aradites
That's what GTA is for me.
Greater Columbion, Austex
Well, the graphics on watchdogs are also rly nice :P
It was cool, though now that I finished the storyline I don't really have very much reason to go back and play more.
I'm also one of those people who couldn't care less about what it looks like because graphics are secondary to gameplay (to a point; if the graphics are so bad that the game is unplayably ugly then there's a problem), but it does happen to look good so that's a bonus.
Greater Columbion
True, although with GTA you can do a lot more with what you pay for, so GTA V for me.
Greater Columbion
JW uses KJV... My family is JW (not immediate family but extended family) so I know Anyways, gotta ask you: what's better? Ps4 or Xbox 1?
That's odd. I know for certain that the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society has its own bible, because I've looked at it and I have a very, very dear friend that used to be a Witness. Yeah, New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures: http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/
Sorry, don't really know about the last question. Last time I played a video game of my own was probably a year and a half ago, and it was Metal Gear Solid 3. Not much of a gamer anymore. :/
Oh, the watchtower.... How I hate it...... The JW's I find are very strange.
Anyways, stuck on that one...ps4 or xbox1 hmmmmm
PC
Miencraft, Rateria, Austex
Government opinion polls were sent out to all registered citizens. I hope this shows a great insight into the opinion of our government. We will also be working on some other government reforms today.
I've got to agree with @dark lieutenant here. I've gone from Atari to NES to Sega Genesis to PlayStation to Xbox to Xbox360, and have now vowed to never purchase a console again. PCs can get better graphics, games are moddable, and overall power can be better. I use can instead of are, but building a custom PC is the most affordable way to obtain a truly magnificent gaming machine.
Pursuant to legal precedent established in BOARD, ELECT, and the Constitution, if no one announces a run for the vacant Board seat, I will appoint a member in my capacity as President. You have five hours.
I will be asking Right-winged nation to submit his resignation as the Attorney General as the office has become stagnant and he holds office elsewhere in the Cabinet and the Board. If you are interested in the position, which is now more important with the creation of the Judicial Branch. This will also entail a House vote for the People's Attorney, the only attorney that may defend in Appeals and the Supreme Court.
And what makes you assume I will resign?
http://i.imgur.com/NnoGhN1.gif
The New United States
I can't make you.
If you would prefer to take a stand against "the man" because you misconstrue the purpose of asking you to resign from one of your three offices, that is your prerogative. However, do remember that the Cabinet stands at the pleasure of the President (established under removal of Independent States of America by Pevvania) and asking you to resign is a courtesy to your office, and as a member of the Board and my Vice President. This does not mean that if you refuse I will terminate you, it means that I am not, in fact, "driving you out". I could have done that if that is what I wanted.
Post self-deleted by Right-Winged Nation.
People of Libertatem, I regret to inform you that it is time to effectively resign from the office of AG. I would like to thank the current administration for the opportunities and kindness shown to me in office. Futher, I would like to recommend Yrellian Confederacy for the position, he is a fresh face with good ideals. Thank you and God Bless!!!!
No Serfdom
Yes.
But IIRC the NASB is the most literal translation, so I guess it works out alright.
The New United States, Greater Columbion
Which denominations are you guys a part of?
Greater Columbion
Baptist/Anabaptist.
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