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Region: Libertatem
Communists are very ignorant about the real world and a few things in it, including, but not limited to: 1) logic, 2) reason, 3) history, 4) morality, and 5) economics. The Socialist economy is a joke; the closest anyone has ever had success with it is the "Third Way" and the Communist society cannot exist for this key reason...
...people like their stuff.
Don't forget reality in general.
Communism doesn't work because we all have differing points of view. Communism wishes to make everyone "equal" but that is impossible because we are creatures controlled by things like greed, jealousy, and overall competitiveness. Communism wishes to put an end to things like that, but we're always going to end up coming to blows when an individual or group of individuals seek for more, whether freedoms or material processions.
The dream of a "utopia" where everyone is the same is just plain impossible.
In the words of Gordon gecko, "Greed, for lack of a better word, is good."
On a personal level I tend not to be greedy. I usually try to lead a humble life, respect others opinions for being different, and try not to judge others. I like to let others be, whether they want to be greedy, that's up to them, I just hope those people give back in other areas.
Choosing to live which ever way you see fit, as long as it isn't causing undue harm to others out of pure malevolence, is ones right. That's why I hate communism, or most other left-wing ideologies since they seem to believe that they know better, and they tend to tell others how to live their lives, taking away an individuals rights.
So starving to death because you lost a job is good because hey, your an individual..
That's why you need Government helping so that the people can live a better life...
Just because you "need" something doesn't mean the government has the moral authority to point a gun at me and take my stuff. Your argument sounds sensible and well intentioned but it's actually quite evil.
Post self-deleted by Meridiani Planum.
You are being overly dramatic, since it is unlikely that anyone is going to starve to death merely because they've lost a job in any reasonably prosperous and charitable society.
But even if one might accept that as a remote risk, yes, it is worth the risk to be an individual. The good life, one of personal flourishing, is essentially a rationally self-directed life. It is one where one can make one's own decisions regarding issues that pertain to one's life. Getting the government involved in taking away the freedom to be an individual, no matter for how benevolent a purpose, chips away at the good life. It is counter-productive, and even evil.
It truly is better to die as an individual than to live as a tool of the State. But, fortunately, what really happens is that a free people learn how to live prudently, responsibly, and respectfully.
Go here: History of "Libertatem repository"
See: 12 hours ago: Region founded by The United Socialist States of Common Prosperity.
Also, learn grammar, commie.
The region history page doesn't give the complete history of a region, such as when it ceases to exist and when it is refounded.
Also, don't trust Common Prosperity. He is The Communist Region's uncle they wish they never had.
Thanks for the information, known communist affiliate.
So the guy who wrote that above is a known commie?
Post by El Golpista suppressed by Liberosia.
So retarded capitalists are! If by showing the history of your Libertatem repository, you think you proved anything, them why dont you watch at this: History of The Real Communist Region
and don't tell me you think you really created this region?
So now we are at this: one region of yours is under communist hands, and one region of us is under your hands. This stalemate happens because of your dumb irresponsibility.
Go ahead like that, but stop with false claims.
Just accept the rightful retaliation we imposed on you, unless you decide to accept negotiations.
We already know that Libertatem repository is not now nor ever has been ours, and I honestly don't see why we're continuing to feed the trolls.
Got the picture. I'll ban the commie.
In response to Laxara...
No I don't believe in letting people just "die" if they fall on hard times, but I do believe in giving people aid just as long as they do something with it to help themselves.
I disagree with cradle to the grave welfare policies, but I'm not against a sort of safety net.
I believe in limited government assistance, and as long as they use that "hand up" to get themselves in better financial situations, then that's good. I don't believe in "hand outs" with nothing required in return like we are doing now. People that are able but not willing to work, should be kicked off government assistance. I'm sorry, if you refuse to work, then no money should be taken away from others to pay for your laziness. Taking money away forcefully from honest, hard working people to pay for that, in order to garner votes (I'm talking about you Democrats) is an evil thing to do.
Its such a shame that the Physical Sites Protection Act is going to pass, but what do you expect from the liberal majority of Nation States?
Aid people who refuse to be a part of the working world? Fine, just fine, as long as it's not the government doing it. That isn't their job.
Its no ones job to aid lazy people. Lazy people deserve nothing, not even charitable donations.
Aid should be given to ones in actual need.
hehehe
In other news, I finally abolished income tax and got public sector down to 1%.
That means more MONEEHHHH for your citizens.
Get back in the box, puppet.
The only way to be successful and bring prosperity to your region, is to unleash the market forces of CAPITALISM!
Post self-deleted by Ambro.
You are right, the only way for a nation/region to be successful and prosperous is through Capitalism.
Completely random news, but I have a horse. :3
Post self-deleted by Miencraft.
Also, my puppets are 2nd, 3rd, and 4th most politically free in the region.
Didn't see that one coming.
My puppets are WAY more politically free than my people are. Darn Republican Party and their underhanded pro-government tactics...good thing the Libertarians are getting things sorted.
I think I went beyond libertarianism on this since now my nation is classified as anarchy. Oh well, my 99 economic rating is pretty nice.
Dinkleberg...
I can say for a fact that we can trust The Holy Empire of Ambro. I know him in real life and he is conservative and trustworthy.
Cool beans
The Socialist Region is now under our control.
Wasn't it founded 14 hours ago by your puppet, CI?
It was. The original region ceased to exist about 15 hours ago.
Hey guys, my political freedoms were suckish earlier, but now they're back to normal. Just thought I'd announce it for no good reason.
That was fast; I'm impressed.
Now to get my civil rights raised...
Apparently telling my people that they could basically stick their middle finger at the government if they so desired did the trick.
Ahh, okay.
If you guys haven't noticed, we are also now in control of what was formerly (and, for a few minutes, ceased to be formerly) Communist Asylum.
Communists belong in an asylum. An insane asylum.
I am still looking for a suitable new manager of Military affairs. Telegram me.
Greetings I am the envoy from the Kingdoms Of Prussia, a state region. We want to expand, but find it rather difficult. We would like to seek diplomatic relations with this region.
I am just putting it out there; your region is tagged as 'capitalist' and 'free trade', yet you are classified as a socialist.
this nation was made carelesly, for that im sorry. I just needed a diplomatic nation to travel abroad.
Lol my issue is called "Law-abiding Citizens Assassinated... Almost" :P
So apparently regions falling is going to be a thing next month.
What is this while region falling thing?
I was hoping someone here knew.
Hi,
Just came over from Israel, looking for a Libertarian region to hang my hat in.
Welcome, Telz!
Welcome Telz.
Telz, I quite agree with the point you posed in your previous region - Obama and his socialist friends have no place in Israel. Their sentiments aren't even pro-Palestinian so much as anti-Israeli. All Obama does is insult the country we should be supporting now more than ever.
Thank you Manager, it was time for me to go. I did what I could and perhaps I helped, I hope I did some good. I attempted to layout that the media here is not showing the truth of the actual situation in the Oligarchy/Empire of America today. The cult of personality that has arisen around Obama is far beyond concerning... I dunno, I'm a person who believes that an individual is able to govern themselves far more effectively than any government regardless of type. I recognize a Government is necessary, and in the best interests of a Nation and the individuals in it, provided that it is of smallest size to do so effectively. I believe that equality is equality, for all not just protected classes. The classification of protected classes indicates that there is exclusion, and admittance of "non-protected" classes. Therefore there is no equality in that... I dunno. I'm me. If I need to find another place to be let me know, I'll happily pull stakes and roll out. :)
Why trust the media to tell the truth in the first place? It leans heavily authoritarian+liberal. (Also, I find your talk of equality...disconcerting...) :P
No, no, not at all - you're welcome here. Enjoy your stay in Libertatem.
Great point on protected classes Telz. And welcome.
I'm going to choose to see sarcasm in your equality response.
Thank you for the welcome! So, what is it we say we do around here anyway? Just sit around and govern ourselves?
I never really realized how boring Libertarian Politics would be if it were actually allowed to function by itself. We would have to almost drag our representatives to their duties once a year... How awesome would that be? To go to a State Capital and have it be almost empty 360 days a year! Just the basic functions open. No legislators trying to keep themselves employed by stacking even more laws on top of unenforced laws, but efficiently working toward the greater liberty of the People... I can dream can't I?
The dangers of electronic communication abound. That last post was more snark and actual optimism than it may suggest. I'm a dreamer, what can I say? :)
Thanks Macallan, nice flag! Got me a few of those... "flags". :)
The Communist region is a communist region, and I think that we need to try to get rid of it somehow because communism disgusts me and it's bad.
The good thing about Communism is it actually burns itself out. The bad thing is it kills millions on the way.
So how do we do that in Nation States? How do we actually crush a disgusting totalitarian regime?
Or do we as Libertarians? If the people are unwilling to rise up and throw off the shackles of tyranny, I hope their slavery rests lightly on their shoulders. The slippery slope of "World Police" is the same path the US went down, and that hasn't done so well. Communism is reprehensible, but our intervention costs our region what exactly?
If in Nation States it costs us nothing and we have adequate defenses, why not? Morally we have an obligation to support those who would abdicate tyranny.
So how does this work?
Welcome to our humble region, Telz. Uncharacteristic of most libertarian regions, we are committed to defeating the communists/socialists of NS through militarism and imperialism. What communists say can, at times, sound rooted in education, but anyone who has read and learned about Marxist theory knows socialism to be incorrect, namely because Marx makes to fundamental assumptions that turn out to be historical and socioeconomic fallacies. I digress, pardon me.
*two
Our region is something of an enigma. It is both understood to be and practiced as a libertarian (and somewhat right-leaning) region that does not infringe upon the rights of the nations of Libertatem, but we do have a few authoritarian practices (not many - we just have an empire separate from the region itself, of course, and we're imperialistic when it comes to invading other regions).
Also, attention. My nation has recently hit 100/100 in economic power, so, uh...yeah, I'm done answering issues on this one.
Liberosia and Manager,
Okay, I was just curious. How can I help? Telz is pretty... Well armed :)
I like digression, it's interesting... Unless it's an emergancy, then it's not so much, standing infront of the escape hatch recanting your fondest memories is counter productive; while interesting it doesn't accomplish the goal at hand... But, I digress ;)
Caveat:
We should petition NS to have a Liberterian designation. Anarchy is almost as close as I perceive actual Libertarianism in the game, but Libertarianism isn't Anarchy at all... It might do other Regions and Nations some good. What do you all think?
Hey, if Liberosia did it (or helped do it, not sure which one) to get the Anti-Communist tag, then I suppose anything's possible.
What I mean to say is, petitions work.
Revolutionary Committee Of Slavia, a former communist region, ceased to exist 15 minutes ago and I got it under our control. I'm running out of puppets to throw at these things.
Capitalizt is the closest thing to libertarian, Telz.
Even says "Freedom-Loving Libertarians" if you use the Conservative theme and look at a Capitalizt nation..
I would like that both of our regions would cut out the bullsh*t, and go back to only hating each other on rmb.
Liberosia, That's good to know! But how do you get there. When I select items as the governing authority it ends up being insane. "Would you like to lower taxes?" - check yes, no, or something completely random... I check yes... "Your citizens are all now addicted to meth and can hardly hold still long enough to..." You get the idea. So I said screw it, I'll just be anarchist for a bit. I'll put a "Be back after the Civil War" sign on the door until I get it nailed down. Thanks for the info though!
So how can we help MIACI - Said like Mia-C, or Macy? - Do we just start creating puppets and... Then what?
The United Socialist States of NEW LIBERTARIAN STATES... Seriously? How does that even work? What kind of Progressive insanity is that anyway? Why not just call it 1984 and be done? :)
New "Libertarian" States (lol, ironic), here's the response:
F*ck you and your lying, dishonorable, fake, leftist, moronic, ignorant, uneducated, communist region.
The regions we have conquered were real. We have lost jewels of anti communism like AntiSoc and Anticomintern to your leftist filth.
You're all the same group. All communists, all the enemy.
Pardon my language, Libertatem nations. I simply will not tolerate a communist official initiating conflict on OUR RMB.
Post by New Libertarian States suppressed by Liberosia.
^Wut.
Anywho, one of your members even said on the rmb he created 2 of your conquered regions.
So lets not even start on that.
2nd, lol telz that was a good joke.
The communist has been suppressed, ejected, and banned.
Gotta just keep answering issues, Telz. Some are nuts, but some are sane.
Oh, I did create them. Right after they CTE'd.
I studied The communist region's history very closely and sent puppets to refound the former embassy-holding regions that faded away. It's more like scavenging than invasion, but it is truly a remarkable point that communism only crumbles.
Post self-deleted by Liberosia.
All right everyone, we need recruits for the region. We've encountered a sharp population loss.
You are free to recruit however you like and write your own telegram, but please include links and information to: our region (Libertatem), our Empire (The Libertatem Empire), our constitution, and especially...
...our War on Communism!
Please stress our militarism against leftist forces and their crimes against humanity. Also, talk about how we are a free, center-right region.
Thanks
Hello my friends!
Hi, welcome to Libertatem.
Thank you! Is there political party's in this region?
Yes there are.
We have the Libertarian Party, for advocates of small government, the Democratic-Republican Party, for advocates of democracy and two-party processes, the Right Party, for advocates of large armies, or the Anti-Communist Party of Libertatem, if you can't decide.
Also, there's the Lonestar Party, which I'm a part of. Check The Grand Macallan's factbook for details.
Can I join the libertarian party?
Indeed you can. Good choice - I used to be a member of that party.
The leader of that party is Snabagag, our Delegate.
Which party are you in?
The Lonestar Party.
O cool. I endorsed the delegate =)
Your previous region's RMB is abuzz with commotion, partially over you. What happened there?
Ahh. I was ejected for supposly planing a invasion. they are liberal loons who wanted me gone. Trust me im innocent. I was There former Prez. But the libs voted me out. Then ganged up on me and banned me
Sorry for the late response im still dealing with them.
Can i run for Manager of Military Affairs?
If you can convince either Liberosia or Snabagag to give you the position, it's all yours, but you'll need to have a pretty good reason. After all, you just got here, and your history indicates that you were part of a political power struggle.
im Putting my past behind me ans starting fresh =). I dont mind i can run in a election for the position too
You're running against the vacancy slot - no qualified nations seem to want the position (I'd take it, but it's unconstitutional for me to hold two positions). Again, it's up to the judgement of either the founder or delegate.
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