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I've noticed that a lot of my favorite political thinkers with whom I do not agree (including Marx) bring up a lot of salient points about society, the market, and the state, only to propose ideas that seem to be only tangentially related to what they were talking about.

Miencraft, Rateria, Gaelic Eire Nua

I agree with Marx's critiques. Just not how to solve them

Rateria, Condealism

Come on guys, fight for FREEDOM, embrace Libertarianism and vote for Gaelic Erie Nua!

Gaelic Eire Nua

Already hearing about the RLP pressuring people to vote against me.

Don't listen.

Vote for what's right. Vote for peace. Vote Eiré.

Humpheria, Inissbeln

Noam Chomsky is a cuck. A great linguist, but still a cuck.

Reminder: Humpheria is also libertarian

Pevvania, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Condealism wrote:Reminder: Humpheria is also libertarian

Reminder: That's what the L in RLP stands for.

Rateria, Condealism, The United States Of Patriots

Condealism wrote:Reminder: Humpheria is also libertarian

It's not very Libertarian of them to pressure voters to vote for them.

Gaelic Eire Nua

Inissbeln wrote:It's not very Libertarian of them to pressure voters to vote for them.

It's campaigning.

Rateria, Condealism, The United States Of Patriots

Not if they support military intervention. Not if they are the establishment's pet.

I'm an INDEPENDENT libertarian. He's not.

Gaelic Eire Nua wrote:Not if they support military intervention. Not if they are the establishment's pet.

I'm an INDEPENDENT libertarian. He's not.

Can I just say I love how you just got here and you're already anti-establishment.

I love it. Haven't had good 'tatem politics like this in a long time.

Rateria, Condealism

Inissbeln wrote:It's not very Libertarian of them to pressure voters to vote for them.

That's pretty much how we do things here in Libertatem, so I'd argue that it is. Anyway, Eire seems to have gotten the hang of it quite well - good politicking. (I'm still voting for Humphy Bear, though.)

Rateria, Gaelic Eire Nua

Gaelic Eire Nua wrote:Already hearing about the RLP pressuring people to vote against me.

Don't listen.

Vote for what's right. Vote for peace. Vote Eiré.

Inissbeln wrote:It's not very Libertarian of them to pressure voters to vote for them.

Only telegram sent regarding the election recently:

"Hey just checking in because I saw you switched your vote and wanted to see what I can do to win it back.

Humph"

As you can see, the evil RLP is pressuring people into an anti-opposition strategy. Can't believe the corrupt and evil methods used to coerce voters these days. Smh.

We all want what's best for the region. There is no reason to go to such levels as accusing opponents ofmanipulating voters and corruption. There is no reason we can't be civil and try to do what's best for the voters of Libertatem.

Miencraft, Pevvania, Rateria, Condealism, The United States Of Patriots

In terms of Seat 4, I strongly urge you all to vote for my friend and colleague Humpheria.

He has a wealth of experience in government and has been with us for over 3 years. He led a successful and historic presidency from 2014-15 and has come out of retirement specifically to help our region prosper and grow. He's a great guy, an ambitious guy, and one who truly cares about the region.

Peace Through Strength

Condealism, Hyderbourg

Telegram I recieved (just one of them):

"I'm sorry, I really wish you well, I'm getting lots of party pressure though.

I really apologize.

I hope you do well."

Another one:

"I understand what you're saying.

But I'm an RLP Member, if I get kicked out of the party, my career is over.

I'm sorry and I wish you the best."

Pevvania wrote:In terms of Seat 4, I strongly urge you all to vote for my friend and colleague Humpheria.

He has a wealth of experience in government and has been with us for over 3 years. He led a successful and historic presidency from 2014-15 and has come out of retirement specifically to help our region prosper and grow. He's a great guy, an ambitious guy, and one who truly cares about the region.

Peace Through Strength

He has also served as regional justice for years.

Pevvania, Rateria, Condealism

Gaelic Eire Nua wrote:Telegram I recieved (just one of them):

"I'm sorry, I really wish you well, I'm getting lots of party pressure though.

I really apologize.

I hope you do well."

Gaelic Eire Nua wrote:Another one:

"I understand what you're saying.

But I'm an RLP Member, if I get kicked out of the party, my career is over.

I'm sorry and I wish you the best."

That's funny. I got a telegram earlier today from the RLP's founder, Pevvania, explicitly stating that RLP members are not required to vote for RLP candidates. But that's none of my business *sips tea*

Miencraft, Pevvania, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Well Gaelic you've been misinformed. We have a loyal base but we most certainly do not compel anyone to cast their votes for certain candidates. You're plucky and you've got spirit, which I like, but this is the wrong race for you. Humph is a true public servant who is known well and beloved by the region.

Miencraft, Rateria, Condealism, The United States Of Patriots

RLP TYRANNY

Rateria, Condealism

Those telegrams to me speak a different story

Mind you- those are just 2 I've received out of many from many people

Inissbeln

tfw Yakian has no votes

Rateria

Condealism wrote:tfw Yakian has no votes

He voted for me

Gaelic Eire Nua wrote:Those telegrams to me speak a different story

You may believe whatever you wish but there is no reason to sink to the level of character attacks. I have not even mentioned you once throughout this entire campaign because I have campaigned on my own merits.

I have served Libertatem for 4 years and to say that I am offended and disappointed in such unfounded accusations would be a lie.

To the people: you may vote however you wish. The region will be served well either way. I am a natural campaigner but in this campaign I have never attempted to pressure or coerce any voter. I have reached out to those that are voting for my opponent to give them a chance to speak their mind and maybe change it. I have spoken to members of the RLP and asked them for their support. Never have I threatened someone's career nor have I pressured them. Merely asked for their support.

If anyone feels pressured or coerced I apologize from the bottom of my heart. It was never my intention. But, I will not apologize for working to improve and build our regional peace. I can only humbly ask for your support.

Humph

Miencraft, Pevvania, Narland, Rateria, Condealism

Condealism wrote:tfw Yakian has no votes

fuk u hump and mine ur gey

Jadentopian Order wrote:fuk u hump and mine ur gey

wow ok

Rateria

Killary has started her own PAC called 'Onward Together' that pledges to 'push progressive values'. Lol. Hillary doesn't give af about progressivism; she's a centrist neocon that moved left to prevent Berniecrats from defecting to Trump. She's just doing this to line her pockets. Please go away, nobody cares about what you have to say.

Miencraft, Narland, Rateria, Condealism

Humpheria wrote:wow ok

(just kidding you guys are great)

Humpheria, Rateria

With the 4th seat election underway and tge 5th close by, I just want you all to consider my position in office. I may not have many principles, but I will stick to my promise, and that is to oppose those who wish harm upon Libertatem. I will not prevent advocation for different beliefs, but I shall oppose those who do. Just remember the motto of my candidacy:

NO HIPPIES

NO COMMIES

NO ANTIFA

Rateria, Hyderbourg

Pevvania wrote:Killary has started her own PAC called 'Onward Together' that pledges to 'push progressive values'. Lol. Hillary doesn't give af about progressivism; she's a centrist neocon that moved left to prevent Berniecrats from defecting to Trump. She's just doing this to line her pockets. Please go away, nobody cares about what you have to say.

She spammed her twitter post about it too. Sad!

http://i.imgur.com/KEXUm5k.png

Pevvania, Rateria, Condealism

Jadentopian Order wrote:fuk u hump and mine ur gey

yes

minecraft is evil and hyderberg is not our president

Rateria

The States Of Balloon wrote:With the 4th seat election underway and tge 5th close by, I just want you all to consider my position in office. I may not have many principles, but I will stick to my promise, and that is to oppose those who wish harm upon Libertatem. I will not prevent advocation for different beliefs, but I shall oppose those who do. Just remember the motto of my candidacy:

NO HIPPIES

NO COMMIES

NO ANTIFA

Round two of the IRU Presidential Election. FIGHT

Condealism wrote:yes

minecraft is evil and hyderberg is not our president

mhomen's back and he's angry !!!

Rateria, Condealism

I am dedicated to this region and it's people. If anyone feels that I have pressured or manipulated them, then for him have I offended.

If he feels offended, then let him speak. If anyone feels that I have done what my opponent accuses me of, tell me or the whole region and I will address their concerns in full to show my true nature and not the perception that my opponent has attempted to create.

Rateria, Condealism

I never did any personal attacks. Instead, you all mocked what I was saying. Just so that's on the record.

Gael

mhomen would shudder to be associated with lewdians

What perception? I simply released telegrams that a RLP member sent to me.

The Aradites wrote:mhomen would shudder to be associated with lewdians

mhomen would be proud to be allied with the Lewdish People.

Rateria, Condealism

The Aradites wrote:mhomen would shudder to be associated with lewdians

who the hell is mhomen

Rateria, Condealism

The States Of Balloon wrote:who the hell is mhomen

The lord and savior, of course!

Rateria, Condealism

The States Of Balloon wrote:who the hell is mhomen

Funny thing about that...

Rateria, Condealism, The United States Of Patriots

A vote for me is a vote for social equality!

The States Of Balloon wrote:who the hell is mhomen

Yes.

Miencraft, Rateria

The Aradites wrote:mhomen would shudder to be associated with lewdians

I shudder that I live

Among mhomens and lewdians

Rateria

Gaelic Eire Nua wrote:I never did any personal attacks. Instead, you all mocked what I was saying. Just so that's on the record.

Gael

Sir if you must make such accusations and condemnations you cannot then try to step them back once the people that they have no standing. Say what you must, accuse me of whatever you wish, but do not do that and then try to deny it and downplay it. No one has mocked your character assaults, and if they are true than they are grievously so, if they are not, then the people must face that those accusations were erroneously posted.

Nothing more. Nothing less.

Miencraft, Rateria, Condealism, The United States Of Patriots

*sips tea*

Well, I'm looking forward to the next poll. We're got quite a smattering of candidates for that one.

Humpheria, Rateria

https://discordapp.com/channels/313716097914372096/313716097914372096

I made an RLP Discord

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Condealism wrote:*sips tea*

Well, I'm looking forward to the next poll. We're got quite a smattering of candidates for that one.

Ah yes, did everyone get my telegram?

Condealism

Condealism wrote:*sips tea*

Well, I'm looking forward to the next poll. We're got quite a smattering of candidates for that one.

Indeed. Despite the nature and the reason behind such interest in the Senate race I'm glad to see such participation!

Condealism

Condealism wrote:*sips tea*

Well, I'm looking forward to the next poll. We're got quite a smattering of candidates for that one.

When is the next poll?

Fascist Dred wrote:When is the next poll?

Ideally, a bit past 90 minutes from now.

Fascist Dred wrote:I shudder that I live

Among mhomens and lewdians

There's the door.

Rateria, Condealism, Fascist Dred, Jadentopian Order

The States Of Balloon wrote:There's the door.

DON'T SAY THE D WORD! I'M.......well...scared of them. :(

Rateria

Fascist Dred wrote:DON'T SAY THE D WORD! I'M.......well...scared of them. :(

That's adoorable~

Rateria, Uadilifu

Hyderbourg wrote:https://discordapp.com/channels/313716097914372096/313716097914372096

I made an RLP Discord

Why am I not able to get into said Discord? I just attempted it.

Rateria wrote:Why am I not able to get into said Discord? I just attempted it.

The link is invalid or its expired.

We have a channel on the regional discord though so you can join that!

Rateria

Condealism wrote:That's adoorable~

For you maybe. For me its made living in a house very difficult.

Rateria

Humpheria wrote:The link is invalid or its expired.

We have a channel on the regional discord though so you can join that!

I got into the channel. Thanks.

Humpheria wrote:Sir if you must make such accusations and condemnations you cannot then try to step them back once the people that they have no standing. Say what you must, accuse me of whatever you wish, but do not do that and then try to deny it and downplay it. No one has mocked your character assaults, and if they are true than they are grievously so, if they are not, then the people must face that those accusations were erroneously posted.

Nothing more. Nothing less.

I never did such. I released two telegrams. Are you accusing me of faking them?

Gaelic Eire Nua wrote:I never did such. I released two telegrams. Are you accusing me of faking them?

I consider that the only one to be making accusations here is yourself. I, however, believe that it is a possibility that the information contained in the telegrams you've allegedly received is not entirely reliable.

Gaelic Eire Nua wrote:I never did such. I released two telegrams. Are you accusing me of faking them?

I would never presume to do that because I value the integrity of our electoral process far too much to sink to such accusations.

If those that felt pressured by me enough to speak to you wishes to show those feelings publicly I'd love to hear their concerns. If not, then the voters must decide for themselves if they believe your accusations.

Rateria, Condealism

Gave the WFE a slight touch-up.

Condealism wrote:Gave the WFE a slight touch-up.

Bruh you got rid of the President tab.

Miencraft wrote:Bruh you got rid of the President tab.

That is correct. Speaking of which, that reminds me - our President should be at/near the top of the government official listings.

Condealism wrote:That is correct. Speaking of which, that reminds me - our President should be at/near the top of the government official listings.

Also I fixed you changing "Laws" to "Constitution" when we already have the Constitution pinned you weirdo.

Rateria, Condealism

*checks most recent edit* Yeah, that probably works better

Rateria

Miencraft wrote:we already have the Constitution pinned you weirdo.

It's doubly important? :P

Miencraft, Rateria

Wait, should I switch War and Interior...?

Condealism wrote:Wait, should I switch War and Interior...?

I think we should change the colors so they graduate better but whatever.

Miencraft wrote:I think we should change the colors so they graduate better but whatever.

Good idea, gimme a min

Rateria, Fascist Dred

When you're trying to vent about antifa but the people you're talking to confuse antifa with anti-fascism in general

Miencraft, Rateria, Condealism

I kinda like that olive color. :)

The States Of Balloon wrote:When you're trying to vent about antifa but the people you're talking to confuse antifa with anti-fascism in general

When you're trying to explain why taxation is theft but they don't understand that the government doesn't own your property

Rateria, Condealism

Miencraft wrote:When you're trying to explain why taxation is theft but they don't understand that the government doesn't own your property

When you're trying to explain why the existence of life is inherently authoritarian but they think you're being suicidal

Rateria

Miencraft wrote:When you're trying to explain why taxation is theft but they don't understand that the government doesn't own your property

The government does own your property though?

The States Of Balloon wrote:The government does own your property though?

Except they don't because security of property is a basic human right.

Rateria, Condealism

The States Of Balloon wrote:The government does own your property though?

Miencraft wrote:but they don't understand that the government doesn't own your property

Miencraft, Rateria, Jadentopian Order

Condealism wrote:When you're trying to explain why the existence of life is inherently authoritarian but they think you're being suicidal

When you're trying to explain why it's not paedophilia but that think that you're a paedophile.

Miencraft wrote:Except they don't because security of property is a basic human right.

I don't think you understand what taxation is.

Taxation is redistribution of wealth from the private sector to the public sector.

Jadentopian Order wrote:When you're trying to explain why it's not paedophilia but that think that you're a paedophile.

It's not pedophilia, I'm also underage

The States Of Balloon wrote:I don't think you understand what taxation is.

Taxation is redistribution of wealth from the private sector to the public sector.

And a redistribution of wealth is called...

The States Of Balloon wrote:I don't think you understand what taxation is.

Taxation is redistribution of wealth from the private sector to the public sector.

Which is inherently theft, because you're violating the right to security of property by seizing property - in this case money - under threat of incarceration if you fail to comply.

Condealism

Damn Cody with dat insta-like. Auto-updating RMB master race.

Condealism

Miencraft wrote:Which is inherently theft, because you're violating the right to security of property by seizing property - in this case money - under threat of incarceration if you fail to comply.

Yeah, they should make taxation voluntary. It worked out so well for the Articles of Confederation.

The States Of Balloon wrote:Yeah, they should make taxation voluntary. It worked out so well for the Articles of Confederation.

No, they should abolish income tax, which is theft because it involves the government taking at gunpoint money that you worked to earn.

Also: the estate tax needs to be abolished (and made unconstitutional in the same amendment that repeals 16) for the same reason, except worse because it's the government taking stuff you worked literally your entire life to be able to have.

Condealism

Condealism wrote:When you're trying to explain why the existence of life is inherently authoritarian but they think you're being suicidal

When you tryna be an RLP tyrant but you're a judge so you gotta be impartial

Rateria, Condealism

http://imgur.com/a/5V7Bl

^ evidence I didn't make it up. Check the time on the top to see I didn't just make them.

I'm not revealing their identity out of their request.

Miencraft wrote:No, they should abolish income tax, which is theft because it involves the government taking at gunpoint money that you worked to earn.

Also: the estate tax needs to be abolished (and made unconstitutional in the same amendment that repeals 16) for the same reason, except worse because it's the government taking stuff you worked literally your entire life to be able to have.

How the hell is the government supposed to earn money then

Gaelic Eire Nua wrote:http://imgur.com/a/5V7Bl

^ evidence I didn't make it up. Check the time on the top to see I didn't just make them.

I'm not revealing their identity out of their request.

Honestly, it's really not very good evidence with the sender name and time censored.

The States Of Balloon wrote:How the hell is the government supposed to earn money then

Fun fact: the government managed to make money from 1783 all the way up until 1913 just fine.

Condealism

The States Of Balloon wrote:How the hell is the government supposed to earn money then

I think the FairTax is a good template. Abolish all federal taces but one, consumption tax. Prices would remain the same, the tax system would be simplified, and we'd actually make more money.

Rateria, Condealism

Miencraft wrote:Fun fact: the government managed to make money from 1783 all the way up until 1913 just fine.

sauce

The States Of Balloon wrote:sauce

16th amendment was passed in 1913.

The States Of Balloon wrote:sauce

http://i.imgur.com/1oxU2FW.jpg

Miencraft, Rateria

Miencraft wrote:Honestly, it's really not very good evidence with the sender name and time censored.

If they want to reveal their identity, they can. But they asked me not to, and I will respect that.

You are all mocking and accusing me, I didn't accuse anyone. I said that people should vote for me because I'm not establishment. That's all I said. And I got support and telegrams from numerous people saying that they feel party pressure from the RLP. So I released the telegrams. I didn't accuse anyone of anything

Gaelic Eire Nua wrote:I think the FairTax is a good template. Abolish all federal taces but one, consumption tax. Prices would remain the same, the tax system would be simplified, and we'd actually make more money.

Cool. Write your congressman about it.

Rateria, Condealism

Gaelic Eire Nua wrote:If they want to reveal their identity, they can. But they asked me not to, and I will respect that.

You could at least reveal the time, then.

Condealism

Gaelic Eire Nua wrote:http://imgur.com/a/5V7Bl

^ evidence I didn't make it up. Check the time on the top to see I didn't just make them.

I'm not revealing their identity out of their request.

As I said, no one is asserting that you "made it up".

I can say with 100% honesty that no one has been threatened to get kicked out of the RLP over a Senate election vote. Our founder sent out a telegram telling people to vote their conscience. Anyone that feels pressured can speak up and I will be happy to address their concerns but to make such accusations and claims solely to increase your chances of winning an election is irresponsible and offensive. The RLP is an open source of support to all members and no such threats were made.

Again, if someone feels pressured or like they are not welcome I sincerely apologize and encourage you to reach out to me if you don't wish to on the RMB.

Miencraft, Rateria, Condealism

Miencraft wrote:You could at least reveal the time, then.

I did, I literally said to look at the top of the picture to see the time.

Gaelic Eire Nua wrote:I did, I literally said to look at the top of the picture to see the time.

Time received, not literal time. You censored the "X minutes/hours/days ago" part which seems incredibly pointless.

Condealism

Humpheria wrote:As I said, no one is asserting that you "made it up".

I can say with 100% honesty that no one has been threatened to get kicked out of the RLP over a Senate election vote. Our founder sent out a telegram telling people to vote their conscience. Anyone that feels pressured can speak up and I will be happy to address their concerns but to make such accusations and claims solely to increase your chances of winning an election is irresponsible and offensive. The RLP is an open source of support to all members and no such threats were made.

Again, if someone feels pressured or like they are not welcome I sincerely apologize and encourage you to reach out to me if you don't wish to on the RMB.

Yes, actually. Someone did say that they don't feel I was "reliable".

If that is true, then why are those telegrams there? I'm sure you said that, the founder said that, but obviously there was pressure at the same time. The telegrams prove that.

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