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Lol, UCR's founder is an "anarchist communist". First of all, not a real thing, and second, he's bad at it. READ SOME EMMA GOLDMAN IF YOU WANT TO BE AN ANARCHO COMMUNIST, DAMN.

Pevvania, United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen, Midland County

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Voted? For what?

Voting is useless silly goose.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Voted? For what?

Voting is useless silly goose.

In most places it's primary day for municipal elections.

As to the useless part, I don't even know exactly what you're getting at, but I have Bern campaigning endlessly. Time for sleep.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Eh? Not 'ere. Thought this was the British national election.

In America at least, you have a higher chance of getting in a car accident than having your vote affect the outcome of an election

(http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/12/voting-kills.html)

Even with much less people, it's not too far apart.

So do us a favor and don't vote: save your life and some time. That two hours could be put into good use.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

There are two tied municipal races in my county tonight, last year we had a race that came down to ten votes. The majority of your taxes come from local offices and that generalization is not true in that case.

Please do not discourage people from voting. I can't even think of a logical argument against voting. If you do not vote you surrender your voice, in thus system your voice is all you have.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:There are two tied municipal races in my county tonight, last year we had a race that came down to ten votes. The majority of your taxes come from local offices and that generalization is not true in that case.

Please do not discourage people from voting. I can't even think of a logical argument against voting. If you do not vote you surrender your voice, in thus system your voice is all you have.

Libertarianism will never gain a political foothold. Average nannystatists cannot comprehend a world without regulations on stupid stuff. "But human bullets" they cry as we vouch to remove seatbelt laws. In addition, institutional barriers exist to make sure that "lolbertarians" do not receive more than a small amount of support - the Republicans let Ron Paul in the party because they'd rather have them voting for him than voting Dems or Independents or other impediments. As for the Libertarian Party - the 5% barrier speaks for itself.

Simply put - libertarianism is too "extreme" for politics. The best bet is to ignore the arsehole that is the government - local and federal. Grassroots movements like the Free State movement have been much more successful at achieving our aims. Counter economics is another good method.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/08/why-your-mayor-has-never-been-a-libertarian/244166/#disqus_thread

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Republic Of Minerva wrote:Libertarianism will never gain a political foothold. Average nannystatists cannot comprehend a world without regulations on stupid stuff. "But human bullets" they cry as we vouch to remove seatbelt laws. In addition, institutional barriers exist to make sure that "lolbertarians" do not receive more than a small amount of support - the Republicans let Ron Paul in the party because they'd rather have them voting for him than voting Dems or Independents or other impediments. As for the Libertarian Party - the 5% barrier speaks for itself.

Simply put - libertarianism is too "extreme" for politics. The best bet is to ignore the arsehole that is the government - local and federal. Grassroots movements like the Free State movement have been much more successful at achieving our aims. Counter economics is another good method.

So you would prefer letting a Socialist leaning Democrap win then letting go of your pride and voting Republican?

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

The American Empire In Libertatem wrote:So you would prefer letting a Socialist leaning Democrap win then letting go of your pride and voting Republican?

I would prefer not to support the state-establishment with votes and money, yes. It is really irrelevant, since both parties are the same.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

TotD

The Zeitgeist movement is insane.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Good Morning, Libertatem!

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Good morning.

It's not even 7 AM yet where I am. Well, lucky for me I went to bed 4 hours earlier than I usually do.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

The American Empire In Libertatem wrote:So you would prefer letting a Socialist leaning Democrap win then letting go of your pride and voting Republican?

Fun fact, I'm one of the local city council races, voter turn out was so low that a socialist actually one. Like he owns an annotated copy of the Communist Manifesto.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Protecting the environment and freedom.

Freedom is what it means to be a libretateman

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen wrote:libretateman

Yes. From now on we are to be known as libretatemans.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen wrote:Protecting the environment and freedom.

What the hell is the environment? What the hell is freedom?

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Pevvania wrote:What the hell is the environment? What the hell is freedom?

Where the hell are muh roads?

Hallo Island, United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Muh Roads wrote:Where the hell are muh roads?

Right here, oh wait.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

When socialist Bolivia has more income inequality than the United States: http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2010/04/free-tolerant-and-happy/39127/

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

[B]Economic Freedom: Conducive to prosperity, happiness, tolerance and equality[/B]

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2010/04/free-tolerant-and-happy/39127/

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Freedom is the ability to make a choice as long as it doesn't break any laws of the country .

Environment to me means the natural world

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen wrote:Freedom is the ability to make a choice as long as it doesn't break any laws of the country .

So, basically, you'd be fine with everything being prohibited by law, as long as you can choose something.

No , you should have as many choices as possible.

No , everything shouldn't be prohibited by law. You should be able to make as many choices as possible, as long as they don't harm.

You have much to learn.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Miencraft wrote:You have much to learn.

I am confused by his tatics

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Miencraft wrote:You have much to learn.

Okay maybe I do

Okay Ipian stop pulling this facade.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

How is it Ipian? I have not seen moment delete a single post.

Miencraft, Hallo Island, Midland County

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Okay Ipian stop pulling this facade.

Who's Ipian?

The New Western States wrote:Who's Ipian?

A young hallo supporter who deleted many of his posts. He ceased to exist for some time now.

Hey Mhomen, with your what's up with your flag? I can't make heads or tails of it, obviously a drawing, but of what?

Hallo Island, United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

The American Empire In Libertatem wrote:A young hallo supporter who deleted many of his posts. He ceased to exist for some time now.

Oh, Ipian. What a sheep.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

The New Western States wrote:Who's Ipian?

The American Empire In Libertatem wrote:A young hallo supporter who deleted many of his posts. He ceased to exist for some time now.

Additionally, whenever someone deletes a post without replacing it, we call it Ipianning.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

So just had a debate on that company who was closed down for refusing to serve gays a cake for the wedding with my family. What does everyone here think about that?

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Right-Winged Nation wrote:So just had a debate on that company who was closed down for refusing to serve gays a cake for the wedding with my family. What does everyone here think about that?

Every business has the right to serve whomever they want, and there is nothing that permits anyone to close them down for exercising that right.

I, personally, would not use the services of a business that discriminates against anyone, but they're allowed to do that if they really want to. They'll drive away loads of business and be forced to close due to lack of income, but if they really want to risk that then they can go right ahead.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Miencraft wrote:Every business has the right to serve whomever they want, and there is nothing that permits anyone to close them down for exercising that right.

I, personally, would not use the services of a business that discriminates against anyone, but they're allowed to do that if they really want to. They'll drive away loads of business and be forced to close due to lack of income, but if they really want to risk that then they can go right ahead.

Did the couple have the right to sue in your opinion?

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Did the couple have the right to sue in your opinion?

I'm not aware of any law that was broken.

And, really, suing isn't a right; you don't have the right to sue, you just have the ability to, and whether or not a judge will take it is a different matter entirely.

I wouldn't have sued, since it really makes absolutely no sense, but if they want to waste time doing that that's their own problem.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Miencraft wrote:I'm not aware of any law that was broken.

And, really, suing isn't a right; you don't have the right to sue, you just have the ability to, and whether or not a judge will take it is a different matter entirely.

I wouldn't have sued, since it really makes absolutely no sense, but if they want to waste time doing that that's their own problem.

Uh they won. The fine was 100,000 dollars which shut the business down

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Don't like bakeries that don't cater to gays? Become a baker and change it from the inside.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Muh Roads wrote:Don't like bakeries that don't cater to gays? Become a baker and change it from the inside.

Or teach people not to be bigots.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Hallo Island wrote:Or teach people not to be bigots.

Or let free market capitalism take its course and let those businesses die rather than trying to change people for your benefit.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

They sued on racism and won. Part of me sees both sides. You do have the right to refuse service, however this happends when you choose to be discramatory

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:Or let free market capitalism take its course and let those businesses die rather than trying to change people for your benefit.

I mean educate people so they aren't ignorant, not force ideals on people.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Hey look at my motto and my currency and my animal LOL!!!!!

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Right-Winged Nation wrote:They sued on racism and won.

Gays confirmed as a Race?

Better call the Black Panthers 👍

Right-Winged Nation, United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

lolololololololollololololololololololololololololololool loook at my country

The Aradites wrote:Gays confirmed as a Race?

Better call the Black Panthers 👍

Read my profile !!!!!!

Naturalists Nation wrote:Read my profile !!!!!!

MOOOOOOODDDDDSSSSS!!!!! Clean up.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Uh they won. The fine was 100,000 dollars which shut the business down

I'm aware of this.

What I'm not aware of is how they were able to do that, as no law that I know of was broken.

Nobody had any right to shut that business down. As much as it sucks to hear, we do have an inherent right to discriminate however we please. As long as, y'know, it's not the specific kind of discrimination that was specifically outlawed by the Constitution, which even then really only applies to everyone eligible to vote is allowed to vote regardless of sex and race.

I mean, I will never support people who discriminate against others, but they do have a right to do that if they want to.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Also, I didn't notice that they added an average income to nation pages.

Funny thing is, mine is calculated as being ~191k Denarias. A while back, when I redid my factbook, I had figured the average income to be ~197k.

Barry did something right.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Good morning, Libertatem.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Hallo Island wrote:Good morning, Libertatem.

Go back to bed.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

You go back to bed. I got my full nine hours of sleep... still, I haven't been up this early since about a year ago.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Finals are hitting me hard, man....

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:Go back to bed.

School, bro.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

BEWARE

the prophet dred has returned in this unholy time to be the bearer of bad news. a great omen is coming. one that will start a war between all regions. i have seen the end time. libertatem will fall unless you prepare.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

hail dred

hail dred

hail dred

hail dred

hail dred

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Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:Go back to bed.

School, bro.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Dred Returns wrote:hail dred

hail dred

hail dred

hail dred

hail dred

Lol again?

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Destroy it before it breeds!

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Keynesball: Central planning is everywhere

but that's not CENTRAL planning though. The employer/boss reacts to changes in supply and demand in the market, something which central planners do not do, or they overdo it or underdo it because of human error.

In fact, it's like how socialism can work on a small scale - any "central" planning can only work efficiently on a small scale. Large scale central planning doesn't. And neither does socialism.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

I designed it myself , it represents my country. Purple = freedom and liberty , green= environmentaism ( which is in the name )

The stars represent the states with in my country.

Muh Roads

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:Finals are hitting me hard, man....

You have finals ??

Irony: having no government and a high crime rate.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

That would be ironic !!

Muh Roads wrote:Irony: having no government and a high crime rate.

That would be ironic

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen wrote:I designed it myself , it represents my country. Purple = freedom and liberty , green= environmentaism ( which is in the name )

The stars represent the states with in my country.

You should really learn how to use some real softwares, like Paint.NET.

Yrellian Confederacy

Just voted Tory. #LesserOfFiveEvils

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Conservatives far ahead in the exit polls according to the BBC. The Labor should even lose some seats.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:Conservatives far ahead in the exit polls according to the BBC. The Labor should even lose some seats.

Aye, Cons are at 316 and Labour are at 239, apparently.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Britain - Vote for nobody.

Nobody will stop the war in the middle east

Nobody will fix the debt

Nobody will legalize marijuana

Nobody cares!

Politics only serves to strengthen the state. Your vote is worthless when everything is predetermined. Civil disobedience is the only rational way to oppose the state while getting the liberty YOU deserve.

Hallo Island, United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Britain - Vote for nobody.

Nobody will stop the war in the middle east

Nobody will fix the debt

Nobody will legalize marijuana

Nobody cares!

Politics only serves to strengthen the state. Your vote is worthless when everything is predetermined. Civil disobedience is the only rational way to oppose the state while getting the liberty YOU deserve.

Starting to get real tired of this. A vote is the only thing you have in this world. To surrender it it's to surrender yourself to the State.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Muh Roads wrote:I hereby codemn the [REGION=UCR] and officially declare war. Their actions shall not go unpunished, we cannot sit idly by letting them get away with their aggressive motives. Libertatem remain on high alert.

Thank you,

President Muh Roads

This has been approved by the Board and is now law.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:Starting to get real tired of this. A vote is the only thing you have in this world. To surrender it it's to surrender yourself to the State.

The state gives you the vote in the first place. Yet you trust this gift - unlike welfare or any other state granted benefit?

No...

Fvck them. Why should I pretend to participate in their little democracy game when I have statistically no power to alter it?

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Hallo, are your recruitment TGs spent yet?

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Although it's hypocritical of me because I do in fact vote, I am with Minerva on this one. I'm not fully convinced my vote matters.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Republic Of Minerva wrote:The state gives you the vote in the first place. Yet you trust this gift - unlike welfare or any other state granted benefit?

No...

Fvck them. Why should I pretend to participate in their little democracy game when I have statistically no power to alter it?

You have no power over one race. There are 59,000 elected offices in the country.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Muh Roads wrote:Hallo, are your recruitment TGs spent yet?

Yes.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:You have no power over one race. There are 59,000 elected offices in the country.

I have no power in any races, except in maybe small local ones.

And all of them are hostile to liberty. I am forced to be apart of the system, unless I pack my bags and move to the highly unstable Liberland.

Hallo Island, United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Related: if anyone wants to contribute, we can go get a big ol' ship, send it out to international waters, and call it a country.

We'll make Libertatem in real life!

Or, y'know, just move to that other ship that's already a country.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I have no power in any races, except in maybe small local ones.

And all of them are hostile to liberty. I am forced to be apart of the system, unless I pack my bags and move to the highly unstable Liberland.

And if no one that cares votes? Only the sheeple vote. Then where are we at?

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:And if no one that cares votes? Only the sheeple vote. Then where are we at?

The "sheeple" already make a majority of voters.

And if all voters were educated and decided to vote a Ron Paul-Gary Johnson ticket, there's always the fact that the electoral college can declare another winner. Such democracy. Much accountability. Wow.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Miencraft wrote:Related: if anyone wants to contribute, we can go get a big ol' ship, send it out to international waters, and call it a country.

We'll make Libertatem in real life!

Or, y'know, just move to that other ship that's already a country.

Sounds good! Meet in Florida?

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Muh Roads wrote:Sounds good! Meet in Florida?

Sounds like a plan

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Why not go to Liberland? It's already there, no need to pull another Sealand.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Why not go to Liberland? It's already there, no need to pull another Sealand.

Huh. I'd heard of Sealand, but never Liberland. That's kind of interesting.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Why not go to Liberland? It's already there, no need to pull another Sealand.

But I don't want to go all the way to Europe.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Miencraft wrote:But I don't want to go all the way to Europe.

Yet you'd go out on a ship in the middle of the ocean. :p

Miencraft, United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Perfect listverse article on Lincoln:

http://listverse.com/2013/12/05/10-reasons-lincoln-was-secretly-a-terrible-president/

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Britain - Vote for nobody.

Nobody will stop the war in the middle east

Nobody will fix the debt

Nobody will legalize marijuana

Nobody cares!

Politics only serves to strengthen the state. Your vote is worthless when everything is predetermined. Civil disobedience is the only rational way to oppose the state while getting the liberty YOU deserve.

Although voting for a longer leash still legitimises leashes, it nevertheless weakens the power of the leash. I dream of a world where every dog has no leash and can roam free, but that must be accomplished through whatever means at our disposal.

The New United States, United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Pevvania wrote:Although voting for a longer leash still legitimises leashes, it nevertheless weakens the power of the leash. I dream of a world where every dog has no leash and can roam free, but that must be accomplished through whatever means at our disposal.

Except this does nothing to delegitimize the system. You are consenting to allow the "lesser evil" rule you instead of fighting back, and believing that consistently voting for the lesser evil would give you freedom is absurd. Did Obama expand civil rights in 2008 when he was perceived the lesser evil? Did he really get us out of Iraq? No. Do you honestly think your lesser evil - the Tories - would get rid of victimless crimes and cut down on the police state? No.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Except this does nothing to delegitimize the system. You are consenting to allow the "lesser evil" rule you instead of fighting back, and believing that consistently voting for the lesser evil would give you freedom is absurd. Did Obama expand civil rights in 2008 when he was perceived the lesser evil? Did he really get us out of Iraq? No. Do you honestly think your lesser evil - the Tories - would get rid of victimless crimes and cut down on the police state? No.

None of them do. But at least the Tories want to balance the budget, cut taxes, reform welfare, deregulate industry, reform the EU and deliver a referendum on the issue.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

One vote actually matters , it can me the difference , between a politician getting elected and not. If no one voted they wouldn't get elected.

Even if it doesn't seem that your vote matters it does

What a relief to know that Ed " the red " Miliband will never have any official responsibilities ever again.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

I say we should call the Green Party, the watermelon party.

Because its green (environmentalist) on the outside, and its red (communist) on the inside.

Miencraft, Pevvania, Yrellian Confederacy

The Neo-Confederate States Of America wrote:I say we should call the Green Party, the watermelon party.

Because its green (environmentalist) on the outside, and its red (communist) on the inside.

That joke is oooooooooold.

Yrellian Confederacy, United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Yet you'd go out on a ship in the middle of the ocean. :p

Half-way across the Atlantic < all the way across the Atlantic.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27WqccWkygE

Green party supporters, just a bunch of hipsters/hobbos/potheads/tossers/spoiledkids

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27WqccWkygE

Green party supporters, just a bunch of hipsters/hobbos/potheads/tossers/spoiledkids

There are few parties internationally that I despise more than the Greens.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

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