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Pevvania wrote:Good for Prussia. As I said above, soldiers are heroes. We're not debating about whether the country is worth fighting for, but whether the government has reached a point where it'll throw away thousands of lives just to achieve its own political goals.

Unfortunately, this is indeed the case. The US government has unapologetically murdered hundreds of civilian men, women and children in the Middle East, and continues to do so without caring. Even if they're going after high-profile militants, they are still targeting children, by proxy, as they have not bothered to alter their policy to avoid all these unnecessary deaths, and will openly bomb civilians in order to kill one terrorist. A wedding was bombed a few weeks ago in Yemen, killing fifty people. An American-born Yemeni teenager was murdered while having lunch in a diner, without charges and without trial, because his father was a member of Al-Qaeda who had died two weeks before.

These drone strikes do indeed target kids. http://drones.pitchinteractive.com

I disagree. Carter wasn't too bad on spending, but in all other areas he was a terrible President. He created the Department of Energy to appease his union pals, which today soaks up $70 billion in tax dollars, and the Department of Energy, a corporate welfare boat that wastes $30 billion a year. Carter was a weak President that weakened America, he continued the failed experiment that was détente and sat by while the Soviets expanded their empire. Reagan was direly needed in 1980. He tried to cut spending numerous times, even bringing a balanced budget constitutional amendment to Congress in 1982 (it passed the Senate but fell ten votes short of a supermajority in the House). It was economic growth that sparked a two-decade expansion, creating 50 million jobs and adding the equivalent of the Chinese economy x 2 to the US one.

Quite the opposite. He wanted to get involved in the war from the start, but the public was firmly against it. So he slowly bumped PO in favour of the war.

He created the Federal Reserve AND the income tax. He passed the Sedition Act (which is still in effect), segregated the federal government and publicly legitimised the KKK. He was nearly as bad as FDR.

Amen

Just for you Pev

http://rare.us/story/8-ways-ronald-reagan-was-a-libertarian/

Lack There Of wrote:Just for you Pev

http://rare.us/story/8-ways-ronald-reagan-was-a-libertarian/

Reagan was probably one of our greatest president

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Reagan was probably one of our greatest president

He was the best, in my opinion. His achievements on economic policy were not as good as those of Coolidge or Harding, but they were longer-lasting. He also had tremendous foreign policy success.

Fun fact: in 1982, President Reagan proposed the following legislation:

-A bill that would abolish the Department of Education.

-A bill that would abolish the Department of Energy.

-A bill that would privatise vast swathes of federal land in the West.

-Converting Medicare into a block grant program.

-A balanced budget Constitutional amendment.

The first three made no headway in Congress, but the Medicare proposal actually passed the Senate, but was rejected by the House. The balanced budget amendment actually passed both chambers of Congress - but fell ten shorts of the needed 2/3 majority in the House.

I just freaking love government intrusion on private contracts by means of artificial wage inflation,

http://www.washingtonpolicy.org/blog/post/seatac-everyone-pays-15-minimum-wage

Miencraft wrote:RIP The Magic Conch.

No.

Regan Red Nation?

If this is a joke, you misspelled Reagan* :P

Ever watch spongebob in Gaeilge? It's funnier.

So random political question we discussed yesterday in my region.

Which if any Political Parties do you support in Canada?

I for one support the Liberal Party and as a second choice The New Democratic Party

Albenia wrote:So random political question we discussed yesterday in my region.

Which if any Political Parties do you support in Canada?

I for one support the Liberal Party and as a second choice The New Democratic Party

The Libertarian Party, of course.

Pevvania wrote:The Libertarian Party, of course.

Canada has a Libertarian Party?

Well I guess that rakes spot three for my favorite Canadian Parties.

Albenia wrote:Canada has a Libertarian Party?

Well I guess that rakes spot three for my favorite Canadian Parties.

Indeed it does. It's arguably one of the world's better libertarian parties.

Here's another question for y'all: would the ancaps in the house support the formation of a state in a land like Somalia in order to create conditions like the rule of law and a stable economy so that a transition to anarchy in the future would be peaceful and beneficial?

I have had the song Bicycle Race by Queen stuck in my head for 2 days now and I ended up going on a bike ride today

Why where so many nation deleted?

Pevvania wrote:Here's another question for y'all: would the ancaps in the house support the formation of a state in a land like Somalia in order to create conditions like the rule of law and a stable economy so that a transition to anarchy in the future would be peaceful and beneficial?

Hell no. However I would support industrialization there with factories being protected by defense corporations (like right now!). We'd build in that, and purge the region of it's savagery via industrial might.

Fontes Iuris Germanici Antiqu wrote:Why where so many nation deleted?

I don't know but Muh happiness and Muh Income are gone now....

Pevvania wrote:Here's another question for y'all: would the ancaps in the house support the formation of a state in a land like Somalia in order to create conditions like the rule of law and a stable economy so that a transition to anarchy in the future would be peaceful and beneficial?

I'm not an Ancap so I'm not sure. However I am one who dislikes most anarchy. I will give it this. I support a few types such as Anarcho- Socialism.

However. I don't trust humanity enough to have no government. Not at this time at least. As currently humanity is a tad too corrupt. People only look after themselves and this anarchy would be detrimental to our society.

If humanity cleaned up it's act and grew less corrupt and more peaceful I guess an Anarchic state would work. However like my views on Original Communism. It will not work in this day and age so I will not support it.

Pevvania wrote:Here's another question for y'all: would the ancaps in the house support the formation of a state in a land like Somalia in order to create conditions like the rule of law and a stable economy so that a transition to anarchy in the future would be peaceful and beneficial?

I gor one support an establishment of a state in Somalia if not for only economic and stability purposes. If they want anarchy they should at least have a small government to fulfill basic tasks such as keeping the peace an such.

Pevvania wrote:Here's another question for y'all: would the ancaps in the house support the formation of a state in a land like Somalia in order to create conditions like the rule of law and a stable economy so that a transition to anarchy in the future would be peaceful and beneficial?

Liberosia wrote:Hell no. However I would support industrialization there with factories being protected by defense corporations (like right now!). We'd build in that, and purge the region of it's savagery via industrial might.

^

Albenia wrote:

However. I don't trust humanity enough to have no government. Not at this time at least. As currently humanity is a tad too corrupt. People only look after themselves and this anarchy would be detrimental to our society.

If humanity cleaned up it's act and grew less corrupt and more peaceful I guess an Anarchic state would work. However like my views on Original Communism. It will not work in this day and age so I will not support it.

If you can't trust individuals to act "ideally" how can you trust them collectively to make authoritative decisions for each other?

Albenia wrote:However. I don't trust humanity enough to have no government. Not at this time at least. As currently humanity is a tad too corrupt. People only look after themselves and this anarchy would be detrimental to our society.

"1) Humans are very corrupt,

therefore,

2) I must be governed by other humans."

The New United States wrote:"1) Humans are very corrupt,

therefore,

2) I must be governed by other humans."

Statists gonna state, yo

Lack There Of wrote:If you can't trust individuals to act "ideally" how can you trust them collectively to make authoritative decisions for each other?

Eh. My logic has flaws.

The New United States wrote:"1) Humans are very corrupt,

therefore,

2) I must be governed by other humans."

1) Yes Humans are corrupt

2) .........Well you see......

Look here is my logic

Corrupt Humans+ No laws= BAD

Corrupt Humans+ Good Laws that help= GOOD

Corrupt Humans+ Laws that are both good and Bad= NORMAL

Corrupt Humans+ Bad laws that restrict= BAD

How about

Humans=nothing

Because human action is spontaneous and cannot be measured nor accurately predicted.

Albenia wrote:I don't know but Muh happiness and Muh Income are gone now....I'm not an Ancap so I'm not sure. However I am one who dislikes most anarchy. I will give it this. I support a few types such as Anarcho- Socialism.

However. I don't trust humanity enough to have no government. Not at this time at least. As currently humanity is a tad too corrupt. People only look after themselves and this anarchy would be detrimental to our society.

If humanity cleaned up it's act and grew less corrupt and more peaceful I guess an Anarchic state would work. However like my views on Original Communism. It will not work in this day and age so I will not support it.

"If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action." - Ludwig von Mises

Government is essentially a big corporation that forces consumers to buy its products. Expensive, poorly-made, wasteful products.

What do you guys think of de-denuclearization?

So apparently Chrome is able to permanently disable extensions that it deems unsafe, forcing the use of the Chrome Store for any and all addons.

Pevvania wrote:Government is essentially a big corporation that forces consumers to buy its products. Expensive, poorly-made, wasteful products.

I think that's more accurate than it looks. However there's one essential difference.

Pevvania wrote:"If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action." - Ludwig von Mises

....So if One Rejects a "Leave Alone" Economy (Also Thank god I found the English term because I can't say/spell that economic type to save my life.) They should be an anarchist by nature?

Northern Prussia wrote:What do you guys think of de-denuclearization?

I support international nuclear disarmament and the continuation of the Strategic Defense Initiative. A global system of space-based missile defense systems could prevent the deaths of billions.

Northern Prussia wrote:What do you guys think of de-denuclearization?

The hell is de-denuclearization?

Northern Prussia wrote:What do you guys think of de-denuclearization?

It depends.

I mean I support nuclear weapons as the MAD prevents nuclear war.....I support International Disarment as well but only if EVERY COUNTRY agrees to it.

Northern Prussia wrote:What do you guys think of de-denuclearization?

I want it to happen but I doubt it ever will.

Albenia wrote:....So if One Rejects a "Leave Alone" Economy (Also Thank god I found the English term because I can't say/spell that economic type to save my life.) They should be an anarchist by nature?

What?

Albenia wrote:I mean I support nuclear weapons as the MAD prevents nuclear war.....I support International Disarment as well but only if EVERY COUNTRY agrees to it.

1. MAD is madness, 2. I agree.

Can someone explain to me why there haven't been any treaties to limit Chinese nuclear weapons?

I for one believe such weapons take the honor out of an already brutal war.

Pevvania wrote:Can someone explain to me why there haven't been any treaties to limit Chinese nuclear weapons?

All hail the Chinese overlords.

Pevvania wrote:What?

That quote. So what it's saying is if you don't support 'Leave Alone" economics you shouldn't support a government?

Northern Prussia wrote:I for one believe such weapons take the honor out of an already brutal war.

.......The Honor? Honor in war is a myth. War has no Honor.

Albenia wrote:The Honor? Honor in war is a myth. War has no Honor.

This is just like my stance on morality.

Honor is subjective.

Albenia wrote:That quote. So what it's saying is if you don't support 'Leave Alone" economics you shouldn't support a government?

What the quote means is that many statists assume that the government is a benevolent force that can act as a corrective to man's infallibility. But most often it's the morally scrupulous who rise to the top.

Pevvania wrote:What the quote means is that many statists assume that the government is a benevolent force that can act as a corrective to man's infallibility. But most often it's the morally scrupulous who rise to the top.

It can act as a corrective if the right people get in it....However it can end up worst then anarchy and instead become a detriment to society itself.

And if you haven't guessed my least favorite types of Government are

1) Anarchy

2) Fascism/Totalitarianism/ Authoritarianism and all dat jazz

3) Theocracy (Unless it is Theodemocracy in which it's a little better)

Northern Prussia wrote:I for one believe such weapons take the honor out of an already brutal war.

Ask anybody in Aleppo how honored they are to have their friends and family members killed in barrel bombings, or anyone in Iraq how honored they are to be suicide bombed by Takfiris. War is not honorable.

Afternoon Libertatem.

Ultra Dred wrote:Afternoon Libertatem.

Hello.

I am the Time Alliance. This regions only Centrist!

Albenia wrote:Hello.

I am the Time Alliance. This regions only Centrist!

Thank you.

The New United States wrote:Ask anybody in Aleppo how honored they are to have their friends and family members killed in barrel bombings, or anyone in Iraq how honored they are to be suicide bombed by Takfiris. War is not honorable.

I was talking about the power one man has to kill millions at the press of a button.

I suspect that UCR have copied our kickass RMB.

It's time for war.

Pevvania wrote:I suspect that UCR have copied our kickass RMB.

It's time for war.

YEEEEEEEEEES, finally some action!!!

.........

DAMN IT! Do not go raiding any innocent regions this time.

Frankie say Relax! It was just a joke :)

Now playing - Hall & Oates, Out of Touch.

Pevvania wrote:Frankie say Relax! It was just a joke :)

A joke....but.....but.........I just on all of my raiding gear.

Ultra Dred wrote:Afternoon Libertatem.

Why are you here Dred?

A little quiet today, ain't we?

Who here plays Skyrim?

Let's have another debate. Subject: the Clinton Presidency. Aaaaaand... Go!

Pevvania wrote:Let's have another debate. Subject: the Clinton Presidency. Aaaaaand... Go!

Hope to never have one in office again.

NAFTA, Welfare act of 1996, Peace keeping in Somalia, and the balenced budget with surplus. Those are what I respect from his administration.

The Dred Is Back wrote:Hope to never have one in office again.

Well said.

Pevvania wrote:Let's have another debate. Subject: the Clinton Presidency. Aaaaaand... Go!

Clinton....Bill Clinton....

I'm sure his administration did something right..... The Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act for example. Can't say I liked him much though..

(He's a brony)

Northern Prussia wrote:NAFTA, Welfare act of 1996, Peace keeping in Somalia, and the balenced budget with surplus. Those are what I respect from his administration.

I agree. He actively worked to reduce the size of government. But on the other hand, he expanded the DoE massively, banned assault weapons and married one of the biggest parasites in DC.

Has Anyone Played The Stanley Parable?

Our hiatus on military activities has gone on for too long. Aside from a few re-founds and tags, we haven't had a major success in a while. I'm going to talk to General Minerva about organising an operation in the near-future. Once the details of the plan are sorted out, I will post here again and look for volunteers.

Albenia wrote:Has Anyone Played The Stanley Parable?

Nope.

Pevvania wrote:Our hiatus on military activities has gone on for too long. Aside from a few re-founds and tags, we haven't had a major success in a while. I'm going to talk to General Minerva about organising an operation in the near-future. Once the details of the plan are sorted out, I will post here again and look for volunteers.

Nope.

Go find it and Play it....

It's a Parable you can use as a Parable for Many things. I think of it as a parable of the relationship of The Citizen and The Government. The Social contract if you will....

Albenia wrote:Has Anyone Played The Stanley Parable?

It was great.

Miencraft wrote:It was great.

I like it.

Back from a long day in Montr...

wait

DRED?

FIEND! I THOUGHT I DESTROYED YOU?!

8 hours ago: The Empire of Magic Conch arrived from Balder.

*Thanks the Gods*

Pevvania wrote:Our hiatus on military activities has gone on for too long. Aside from a few re-founds and tags, we haven't had a major success in a while. I'm going to talk to General Minerva about organising an operation in the near-future. Once the details of the plan are sorted out, I will post here again and look for volunteers.

Nope.

Rejoining REATO would be a good start.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Rejoining REATO would be a good start.

Ack

I wonder what would happen if we placed a greater emphasis on defense/liberation missions, just as REATO is doing in general.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0fQd858cRc&hd=1

So many people dont know the 2nd verse of the star spangled banner.

The Amarican Empire wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0fQd858cRc&hd=1

So many people dont know the 2nd verse of the star spangled banner.

Why what ever do you mean

Usual first verse that you hear - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGDH18R7GfA&hd=1

Full anthem-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6_I3f5QaNw&hd=1

So I'm going to be up for a while, anyone want to discuss something incredibly deep and meaningful?

Lack There Of wrote:So I'm going to be up for a while, anyone want to discuss something incredibly deep and meaningful?

I'm going to sleep in a bit, but I'd like to hear your opinion on NAFTA.

I am by no means an expert on NAFTA's inner workings and am obviously against any attempts of the state to intervene in the market, but, from my limited understanding, I see it as a step in the right direction. Tariffs are one of the most disturbing things the state has ever forced on the earth. I once saw a study out of the Adam Smith institute the projected a 60% growth in global GDP if all tariffs were to be abolished. So I definently see the tariff absolvemnet as a positive.

That being said, I despise the idea of "intellectual property" and find it's strengthing of international copy right laws to be distasteful and harmful. Furthermore, the environmental bs they pulled with this stuff really set the stage for a more aggressive and empowered EPA, which I find to be one of the fastest growing dangers to the nation.

NAFTA? I am not too fond of the idea. Although I like most of the things there are too many cons.

Each country boasts unique natural advantages that allows it to produce certain goods or services more cost-efficiently than others. By eliminating tariffs, NAFTA allows all three member countries to focus their productive efforts on their natural advantages. However this shift of industrial focus in each country naturally causes job losses on all sides. As each country shifts its demand for a certain product from domestic purchase to imports, the industry-in-question in the importing country loses business, leaving many people without a job. Entire industries can weaken and possibly disappear over time due to free trade agreements, such as NAFTA.

And While we are slowly becoming interdependent if ties with one country are broken the whole Economics of all three suffer. Also while Tariffs are great for the citizens Tariffs are how the Government makes money. No Tarrifs? No income. No balancing the budget.

But Like I said it isn't all bad and the pros outweigh the cons.

I'm pro-free trade. The death of industries is often natural and occurs when it's time for it to die. Nobody these days thinks that the government should have propped up the fax machine industry. To do so would be a misallocation of resources that the market did not ask for.

Free trade means that consumers get the goods they want at cheaper prices, which in effect increases their income and therefore makes everyone richer.

What the actual fvck GOP:

"Under the new proposed plank, the Texas GOP will recognize the legitimacy and efficacy of counseling, which offers reparative therapy and treatment for those patients seeking healing and wholeness from their homosexual lifestyle.

But that’s not all they’re saying. The Texas GOP’s platform will also call for the complete elimination of the Voting Rights Act; policymakers at all levels should deliberately “ignore” climate change; public schools should end sex-ed and start promoting Christianity; abortion should be banned; English should be the official language of Texas and of the United States; open-carry laws should apply to gun owners statewide; and finally, they support the establishment and maintenance of a volunteer Constitutional State Militia with assistance from County Sheriffs.”

Albenia wrote:What the actual fvck GOP:

"Under the new proposed plank, the Texas GOP will recognize the legitimacy and efficacy of counseling, which offers reparative therapy and treatment for those patients seeking healing and wholeness from their homosexual lifestyle.

But that’s not all they’re saying. The Texas GOP’s platform will also call for the complete elimination of the Voting Rights Act; policymakers at all levels should deliberately “ignore” climate change; public schools should end sex-ed and start promoting Christianity; abortion should be banned; English should be the official language of Texas and of the United States; open-carry laws should apply to gun owners statewide; and finally, they support the establishment and maintenance of a volunteer Constitutional State Militia with assistance from County Sheriffs.”

Let's not forget their commitment to criminalising sodomy!

Exciting (real-world) news, guys! Libertarian Party candidate Lucas Overby - who picked up 4.8% of the vote in a Florida election earlier this year - is polling at 31% in a House race with incumbent Republican Dave Jolly, who's polling at 47%. The Democratic Party failed to enter a candidate before the cut-off date, so this has become a two-way race between the GOP and the Libertarian Party.

http://www.lp.org/blogs/staff/libertarian-florida-us-house-candidate-polling-over-30

Lack There Of wrote:Citation needed

Huh?

Pevvania wrote:Exciting (real-world) news, guys! Libertarian Party candidate Lucas Overby - who picked up 4.8% of the vote in a Florida election earlier this year - is polling at 31% in a House race with incumbent Republican Dave Jolly, who's polling at 47%. The Democratic Party failed to enter a candidate before the cut-off date, so this has become a two-way race between the GOP and the Libertarian Party.

http://www.lp.org/blogs/staff/libertarian-florida-us-house-candidate-polling-over-30

....So wait there are only two Parties at this point? And One isn't the Democrat Party....Holy hell I need to wake up.

Albenia wrote:Huh?....So wait there are only two Parties at this point? And One isn't the Democrat Party....Holy hell I need to wake up.

A guy called Ed Jany planned to run as an independent supported by the Democratic Party, but he dropped out of the race.

Pevvania wrote:A guy called Ed Jany planned to run as an independent supported by the Democratic Party, but he dropped out of the race.

Ah....

Well that makes for an interesting Race.

Pevvania wrote:Exciting (real-world) news, guys! Libertarian Party candidate Lucas Overby - who picked up 4.8% of the vote in a Florida election earlier this year - is polling at 31% in a House race with incumbent Republican Dave Jolly, who's polling at 47%. The Democratic Party failed to enter a candidate before the cut-off date, so this has become a two-way race between the GOP and the Libertarian Party.

http://www.lp.org/blogs/staff/libertarian-florida-us-house-candidate-polling-over-30

Out of ten, that's pretty neat

Muh Roads wrote:Regan Red Nation?

If this is a joke, you misspelled Reagan* :P

Wow, I don't think he's joking, I think he just misspelled Reagan.

If more races like this occur, the Libertarians will overtake the Democrats faster than the Democrats can overtake the Republicans.

Reagan steadfast against tbe Red menace...

Can anyone explain to me why the Libertarian Party and Ron Paul oppose NAFTA, CAFTA and the WTO?

Pevvania wrote:Can anyone explain to me why the Libertarian Party and Ron Paul oppose NAFTA, CAFTA and the WTO?

I have no clue. I know they support Non-Interventionism.

However if they do this then I really must say I support it. Mostly because Like I stated in my NAFTA thing.

Albenia wrote:

Each country boasts unique natural advantages that allows it to produce certain goods or services more cost-efficiently than others. By eliminating tariffs, NAFTA allows all three member countries to focus their productive efforts on their natural advantages. However this shift of industrial focus in each country naturally causes job losses on all sides. As each country shifts its demand for a certain product from domestic purchase to imports, the industry-in-question in the importing country loses business, leaving many people without a job. Entire industries can weaken and possibly disappear over time due to free trade agreements, such as NAFTA. And While we are slowly becoming interdependent if ties with one country are broken the whole Economics of all three suffer. Also while Tariffs are great for the citizens Tariffs are how the Government makes money. No Tarrifs? No income. No balancing the budget.

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