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Skaveria wrote:Why are we refusing to construct embassies with them again?

Have a look at their flag and banner.

Narland

Skaveria wrote:Why are we refusing to construct embassies with them again?

I dunno, but they have something retarded as their flag and banner.

Oh, yeah that's pretty dumb

Skaveria wrote:Why are we refusing to construct embassies with them again?

Tags: Casual, Democratic, Eco-Friendly, Egalitarian, Feminist, LGBT, Liberal, Minuscule, Regional Government, and Socialist.

New Tampa wrote:Tags: Casual, Democratic, Eco-Friendly, Egalitarian, Feminist, LGBT, Liberal, Minuscule, Regional Government, and Socialist.
The tags Communist, Parody, Surreal, and Totalitarian must have been overlooked. With NS I never know if I am dealing with a high-schooler that just needs some more info, or a disaffected nonagenarian former Cobol engineer living in a camper-trailer in the badlands of North Dakota with 20+ cats.

Auxorii, New Tampa

If you can't see the trees for the forest in the way, it makes you a worse than useless ranger. If you cannot see people for the human beings that they are, it makes you a worse off individual. There is nothing wrong with a Socialist that:

1. joining the human race,

2. deciding to care about people as the individuals they are, and

3. getting a real job in an actual work sector

wouldn't fix.

“How do you tell a Communist? Well, it’s someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It’s someone who understands Marx and Lenin.” -- Ronald Reagan

Miencraft, Auxorii

"i shidd my pant" -- Richard "Dicks on" Nixon

The States Of Balloon wrote:"i shidd my pant" -- Richard "Dicks on" Nixon

He wasn't a crook

Suzi Island wrote:He wasn't a crook

What timeline did you come in from?

Yay! Narland made top 10% in the NS World for greatest Wealth Gaps.

This is one of my pet peeves. Does one want to live in a free-market, free-enterprise economy where the poor are richer than everyone equally destitute by comparison in an authoritarian / totalitarian country, even though their rich in a free country has more; or do you want to pull everyone down to being impoverished wage slaves for the Marxist political machine? I Usually I only get a scowl back from them.

One of my more vocally Socialist school teachers (was crowing about how the USSR had one of the least economic gaps in the world. This was during the height of the Cold war -- the same year Soviet Russia gave Soviet Ukraine the Crimean Peninsula "forever as a shining token of social peace and cooperation bahaha) -- 74 iirc. I said that it was for show and one day Russia would take it back. And they did.

One classmate pointed out that this is a non-sequitur. Somalia had so little wealth and everyone was so equally poor that their government controlled economy couldn't get them off the ground. With all the free monies from the UN and Western Nations pouring in (npi) there was no incentive to work their way out of destitution. What good was being equally poor, when no one can afford their own subsistence? The Czechs who had escaped and were living on our ranch (as did the Hungarians a decade before) told us the horror stories of how everyone was equally oppressed. Someone had to stand in line for hours to get food and toilet paper while the other spouse had to work a government mandated job of which they had little choice in choosing themselves. Some workers paradise. Absolute despotism covering up its theft and lies with more lies, and its failures on scapegoats that are gulagged with impunity.

I like what India's minister of Housing said when visiting the poverty stricken areas of the United States -- " I want to live in a country where the poor are fat!"

Miri Islands

Auxorii wrote:What timeline did you come in from?

I think that is the timeline where a confirmed bachelor RM Nixon (an Eagle Scout and Peace Corp volunteer) and participatory member of the Wilsonite sect of the Society (of Friends) became a political activist. He worked with one Senator Billy Graham to bring constitutional reform to the corrupt political establishment of the Allied States of America (AAS). Unfortunately Nixon was assassinated by a crazed Anarcho-Syndicalist named John Edgar Hoover (aka Johnny Drag). Broadway producer Robert McNamara popularized the tragedy in his hit rock-opera "The Nix."

Suzi Island wrote:He wasn't a crook

He presided over the ending of a forever-war. He presided over a balancing of the budget. Compared to what we have today in the White House, Congressional Chambers, and current Administrative State, Nixon was an angel, albeit one with dented rusty halo, and little nubbins where actual horns should be. :) But he was shrewd and unnervingly successful at gathering loyal power-brokers into his cadre that were not necessarily conservative or liberal. The forming behind-the-scenes coalition drawn from disparate sources threatened both the Kennedy-Rockefeller duopoly and the Rational Administrative State that was the Establishment of that era.

I think that Nixon was unaware that G Gordon Liddy had taken the initiative to steal back the files and re-bug the Democrat offices. GOP had already found the bugging equipment put by the Dems in the GOP HQ. It seems assumed that it was another SOP tit-for-tat. I do not think Nixon could have done anything to assuage the vandetta against him. Even if he had not recorded his phone conversation with others so their was no missing 18 minutes, the Administrative State loyal to the current Establishment would have found something else for the willing accomplices in the Press Corp to hit him with.

What I hated was the Establismentarians (in the GOP -- the Progressive, Moderately Socialist Corporatist GOP --anti-republicans (little r) were relatively unscathed by Watergate). The Goldwater conservatives (the Liberty-loving Republicans) got further purged in their guilty-by-association insinuations, by labeling Nixon (who was to the left of JFK) a Conservative. From the Goldwater revolt, Regan Revolution, Conservative resurgence, Ron Paul Revolution/Tea Party, Trump Train are all facets of radical republicans (little r) and other who love Liberty trying to take back the GOP from the RINOs that have dressed and gutted from it the eternal principles of Liberty, and the concerted abolition of all forms of slavery and tyranny.

Happy Veterans Day. Thank you for your service. You are appreciated.

man this rittenhouse trial sure is something

Auxorii, Rateria, Miri Islands

The States Of Balloon wrote:man this rittenhouse trial sure is something

My favorite part is when the prosecution tried to use the fact that Kyle exercised his right to remain silent to imply guilt, then promptly got shut down HARD by the judge.

Miencraft, Narland, Rateria, Miri Islands

Skaveria wrote:My favorite part is when the prosecution tried to use the fact that Kyle exercised his right to remain silent to imply guilt, then promptly got shut down HARD by the judge.

That was great. The judge is one of the few left who stands by the law

Narland, Miri Islands

Skaveria wrote:My favorite part is when the prosecution tried to use the fact that Kyle exercised his right to remain silent to imply guilt, then promptly got shut down HARD by the judge.

Plus that time where their argument was "Don't you think you with your AR-15 were more of a threat to Grosskreutz's life than he was to yours with his handgun?"

Because, you know, having a bigger weapon than someone else makes their weapon being aimed directly at your head no longer dangerous. On top of the fact that there are plenty of handgun cartridges that are bigger than .223, but that doesn't matter because AR-15 black and scary and therefore bad.

Narland

Miencraft wrote:Plus that time where their argument was "Don't you think you with your AR-15 were more of a threat to Grosskreutz's life than he was to yours with his handgun?"

Because, you know, having a bigger weapon than someone else makes their weapon being aimed directly at your head no longer dangerous. On top of the fact that there are plenty of handgun cartridges that are bigger than .223, but that doesn't matter because AR-15 black and scary and therefore bad.

To be fair, .223/5.56 is a more powerful round than 9mm. However, a handgun is still deadly force, which justifies deadly force in return.

Miencraft

Rateria wrote:a handgun is still deadly force

As is getting kicked in the head, which the prosecution also tried to argue wasn't grounds for self-defense because someone armed with a rifle is, in their view, not in any danger when attacked by someone armed with a smaller weapon or no weapon at all.

Narland, Kumquat Cove, Auxorii, Rateria

TL;DR the Rittenhouse prosecution is incompetent at best and actively malicious at worst and deserves disbarment.

Narland, Rateria, Miri Islands

Miencraft wrote:Plus that time where their argument was "Don't you think you with your AR-15 were more of a threat to Grosskreutz's life than he was to yours with his handgun?"

Because, you know, having a bigger weapon than someone else makes their weapon being aimed directly at your head no longer dangerous. On top of the fact that there are plenty of handgun cartridges that are bigger than .223, but that doesn't matter because AR-15 black and scary and therefore bad.

Clearly black = scary

Narland, Auxorii, Rateria

Miencraft wrote:As is getting kicked in the head, which the prosecution also tried to argue wasn't grounds for self-defense because someone armed with a rifle is, in their view, not in any danger when attacked by someone armed with a smaller weapon or no weapon at all.

You werenÂ’t in danger because you had a bigger weapon, so how dare you use that bigger weapon? The bigger weapon makes you safer, so it was wrong of you use it. Why would you need one?

Miencraft, Narland, Rateria

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:Clearly black = scary

das rayciss

Suzi Island wrote:Love this region. I came after the IRU collapsed

I was part of the IRU. I made their constitution. I then moved to the FFS before it collapsed, which was sort of my fault---I was the 2nd president (out of the 3 we had) and had access to the founding nation. I got IP banned and then the founding nation ceased to exist. The FFS got pretty big, I believe over 40 nations

Narland, Suzi Island

I also love how the prosecution went "He only had a skateboard." as if blunt force trauma to the head has never killed anyone. Not to mention if he'd been knocked unconscious and smacked his head on the pavement, or even if he hadn't, and he was just laying there unconscious in front of the mob of people chasing him. I don't know that they would've intentionally killed him had that happened, but they probably would've kicked him and broken some ribs, not to mention strip that gun off him and use it for their own nefarious purposes.

Miencraft, Narland, Kumquat Cove, Rateria

ItÂ’s been a while, so hereÂ’s a public service announcement:

It has come to the attention of our dear leaders that women around the world are forced, by MEN (and women) to wear shirts, and this isnÂ’t cool. We here in Libertatem are firm believers in the right of women to go topless in all public spaces, in the name of feminism and stuff. The perverse misogynistic leadership of the world ((((them)))) needs to get woke and take in a deep breath of real Amurican weed. Only a complete pervert would expect women to wear clothes, and we here in Libertatem are 1000% against the sexualization of the human body. Legalize marijuana and everything will be Zen or something gay like that, we need it. TrumpÂ’s son-in-law is Jewish and Hillary Clinton is a man. Happy Thanksgiving, donÂ’t vote next election.

#FreeTheNipple #BewbsRKewl #ClothesAreSatan #Feminism #FreePot #VotingIs4Scabs #AlbanianMonarchy

Auxorii, Rateria

I wonder if it is just a coincidence that someone arrived and then left for the "Federation of Free States" (the name of the region I was apart of) or am I paranoid. Obviously, it is refounded.

Terra Bestiarum wrote:I wonder if it is just a coincidence that someone arrived and then left for the "Federation of Free States" (the name of the region I was apart of) or am I paranoid. Obviously, it is refounded.

That region sent us an embassy request and Balloon went to say hello.

Narland

The media is a parasite.

Miencraft, Narland, Auxorii, Miri Islands

The prosecutor's lack of self-awareness, lack of moral scruples, and lack of elementary reasoning capacity demonstrated not just by him, but by so many in media, politics, and academia is alarming. He acted as though he expected everyone to be as inept, incompetent and vacuous as he. I hope he is reprimanded and severely punished for prosecutorial misconduct, but I will not hold my breath.

Miencraft, Auxorii, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Miri Islands, Terra Bestiarum

IMAGINE if there was no video evidence. Video evidence is supposed to be a slam dunk, it can't lie and it's not really up for interpretation. This trial isn't about Kyle. This trial is a statement; they're trying to tell you that you cannot legally defend yourself if your attackers have the right politics.

Miencraft, Narland, Auxorii, Rateria, Miri Islands

Skaveria wrote:IMAGINE if there was no video evidence. Video evidence is supposed to be a slam dunk, it can't lie and it's not really up for interpretation. This trial isn't about Kyle. This trial is a statement; they're trying to tell you that you cannot legally defend yourself if your attackers have the right politics.

Of course, today, video evidence can lie, and, as this trial has shown, you can lie about video evidence.

Narland, Auxorii, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Miri Islands

Notice how the rights of the ballot box, jury box, and cartridge box are being taken away. Corrupt elections with stolen results, the mob rule intimidating our juries, and activist politicians and their cronies taking away our 2nd amendment rights one regulation at a time.

Miencraft, Narland

Four Stages of Marxism:

I. Degenerate society

II. Destroy societal cohesion

III. Invoke chaos and revolution

IV. Execute a totalitarian takeover with a swift coup

The guardians of our rights and liberties (institutionally) are asleep, awol, or non-existent. To quote Reagan, "Government is the problem not the solution."

The enemies of America are the architects of totalitarianism, not necessarily their useful stooges. It is better to stop the gameplan of arsonists before they use their myriad stooges to set multiple fires than to only focus on continuously putting out the fires after they are lit. But it is late in the game and the champions of liberty are not focused on the big picture to stop the criminal elements in government who are subverting law and liberty to execute Marxist takeover.

Miri Islands

So do these vaccines prevent people from getting the virus or not?

I remember (iirc) when the vaxes were unveiled one of the doctors said that it would at least keep one from being hospitalized if not prevent it, but I cannot remember which news source. So much has been censored from the internet that I cannot find the quote. I can find Gosar's "Attack on Brandon" meme, but probably not for long.

Narland wrote:I remember (iirc) when the vaxes were unveiled one of the doctors said that it would at least keep one from being hospitalized if not prevent it, but I cannot remember which news source. So much has been censored from the internet that I cannot find the quote. I can find Gosar's "Attack on Brandon" meme, but probably not for long.

WhatÂ’s the point of a mandate if it doesnÂ’t prevent contraction?

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:WhatÂ’s the point of a mandate if it doesnÂ’t prevent contraction?

Control

Narland

To play devil's advocate, I believe they said the vaccine helps to manage symptoms, and some of those symptoms, like coughing, spread it. So from my understanding the logic is "Lessen symptoms, thus lessen transmission."

Narland, Auxorii, Rateria

Skaveria wrote:To play devil's advocate, I believe they said the vaccine helps to manage symptoms, and some of those symptoms, like coughing, spread it. So from my understanding the logic is "Lessen symptoms, thus lessen transmission."

Wouldn't it be more effective to just say, “if you have these symptoms, stay home.”???

Narland

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:Wouldn't it be more effective to just say, “if you have these symptoms, stay home.”???

The problem is that unvaccinated people donÂ’t stay home. The same people who doubt the effectiveness of masks/vaccines are the same ones who are constantly pushing for full re-opening. Since the vaccine has been introduced, deaths have gone way down and transmission/death rates are highest in unvaccinated communities (shocker).

If you are symptomatic, obviously stay home - plenty of people are not symptomatic and can still transmit the virus. If they are vaccinated, the odds of this happening drop dramatically.

ItÂ’s really quite simple and vaccines are nothing new.

Narland, Rateria

Also, it’s hilarious that you think “just saying” would be anywhere near as effective as a mandate or policy.

Auxorii wrote:The problem is that unvaccinated people donÂ’t stay home. The same people who doubt the effectiveness of masks/vaccines are the same ones who are constantly pushing for full re-opening. Since the vaccine has been introduced, deaths have gone way down and transmission/death rates are highest in unvaccinated communities (shocker).

If you are symptomatic, obviously stay home - plenty of people are not symptomatic and can still transmit the virus. If they are vaccinated, the odds of this happening drop dramatically.

ItÂ’s really quite simple and vaccines are nothing new.

WhatÂ’s the difference between an asymptomatic person and and somebody with the vaccine?

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:WhatÂ’s the difference between an asymptomatic person and and somebody with the vaccine?

Can you read? IÂ’ll make it easy for you:

Auxorii wrote:If you are symptomatic, obviously stay home - plenty of people are not symptomatic and can still transmit the virus. If they are vaccinated, the odds of this happening drop dramatically.

”The results showed that vaccines had an efficacy in preventing infection of 90% 14 days after the second dose and 80% 14 days after the first dose.”

“The conclusion of the study showed that in vaccinated and COVID-19-positive persons, the viral load was 2–4 times lower than in unvaccinated persons.”

“One study shows that a single dose of vaccine from AstraZeneca or Pfizer reduced a person’s risk of developing COVID-19 symptoms caused by the Delta variant by 33%, compared with 50% for the Alpha variant. A second dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine increased protection against Delta to 60% (compared with 66% against Alpha), while two doses of the Pfizer vaccine were 88% effective (compared with 93% effective against Alpha).”

Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8287551/

Rateria

Auxorii wrote:Also, it’s hilarious that you think “just saying” would be anywhere near as effective as a mandate or policy.

it wouldn't be a tremendous overstep of government boundaries and a violation of basic human rights, that's for sure.

LetÂ’s not forget the the primary cause of the economic, social, and cultural problems facing humanity these last few years as a result of this virus, were actually caused by reactions to the virus, rather than by the virus itself. Poverty and prices increased not because of the virus, but because governments forced people into poverty and forced prices to rise, for instance.

The damage caused by the reaction was greater than the thing they were reacting to. IÂ’m pretty sure thereÂ’s some old proverb or something about this...

Narland, Suzi Island

The States Of Balloon wrote:it wouldn't be a tremendous overstep of government boundaries and a violation of basic human rights, that's for sure.

SureÂ

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:LetÂ’s not forget the the primary cause of the economic, social, and cultural problems facing humanity these last few years as a result of this virus, were actually caused by reactions to the virus, rather than by the virus itself. Poverty and prices increased not because of the virus, but because governments forced people into poverty and forced prices to rise, for instance.

The damage caused by the reaction was greater than the thing they were reacting to. IÂ’m pretty sure thereÂ’s some old proverb or something about this...

I think there are many factors, those included for sure; the blatant misdirection of people away from scientific data towards political ferver as you just did yourself sure doesnÂ’t help though - you have nothing to say about your original points about the necessity and effectiveness of vaccines so you instead try to make it about politics.

(Me saying this doesnÂ’t mean I approve the governments handling of coronavirus, IÂ’m simply calling out the moving of goalposts in an argument)

Rateria

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVhdJQP2GmI

Rateria

The States Of Balloon wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVhdJQP2GmI

Dungeon masters when the party decides to fight something way out of their league.

Narland

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:WhatÂ’s the point of a mandate if it doesnÂ’t prevent contraction?

That is the question, isn't it?

The US is one of the precious few countries where bodily sovereignty of person (one's personhood) is not only well established common law, but constitutionally enshrined by limited (external) government (viz., governance), and violation thereof legitimate reason for lawful insurrection and revolution against such malfeasance as necessary. Since the abolition amendments (1865 de jure) one can only be pressed into involuntary servitude by due process after conviction in the commission of felony, outlawry, brigandry, piracy (the watery variety), or unlawful insurrection against the state. (Side note: The draft is considered voluntary contract for the privilege of enfranchisement (e.g., voting).

During plague or disease, temporary measures may be authorized (by authorized i mean by legitimate due process -- legislative at municipal, county and State level) directing the executive with jurisprudence the check and balance) to protect each other's rights to life, liberty, and property in such a manner as to ameliorate the condition, but only for limited duration, and only such that it helps hasten the due course with minimal loss of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness) with quarantine being an extreme measure when all other means have failed. If it does non of those things it is abuse of authority. In Idaho extreme measure varies up to 90 days. Historically, outbreaks of bubonic plague, the Spanish Flu requiring quarantine temporary and designated to the parts of local jurisdictions needed. Homesteads and affected areas were required to fly or post the yellow jack or place a red Q sign.

Three Reasons

1. Leftism in general and Socialism in particular does not believe that people own the right to their own property, including the property of their own person/personhood. Socialsts need a plan, and they need to be in charge. Mandates are a natural response to their limited outlook on life and liberty.

2. It is quite obvious that the Marxists among us are interested in instigating authoritarianism/totalitarian (i.e., despotism and tyranny) precedent to destroy what social and economic fabric that remains of the US that is conducive to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness (the concept of which property is a subset) in the continuation of their revolution so as to assert their mastery over us and thus relegate us to being the property of their stateless state for all practical purposes. Mandates (and getting the people conditioned for their enslavement) is the next logical step.

And

3. our "educational systems" (for lack of a better term) have cultivated (deliberately) going on at least two generations of narcissistic learned ignorami who are so full of themselves that they are too intellectually bereft and morally insane to realize how effete and vapid they are, and who care little about the rights, privileges, and immunities of others except when it affects their highly esteemed opinion of themselves in the puruit of their own self-gratification (in the bad sense and in the bad way). They by and large make up our contemporary political class of the Political Ruling Elite and much of our recidivist criminal underclass. I would argue that the two are virtually indistinguishable except for what side of the law they fell on. These useful stooges are then the perfect foil for an even more assiduously ingrate proletariat so full of hate that they willingly burn everything to the ground. One only has to look at the folly that is the former New York Governor Mario Cuomo for a textbook example.

Rateria wrote:Dungeon masters when the party decides to fight something way out of their league.

The goal of every good GM is TPK. The trick is to make it so enjoyable they willingly create new characters to start the process all over again. I find the most entertaining rpgs to be the ones where you know the universe is out to get you -- Cyberpunk v.X, Call of Cthulhu, Over the Edge, Paranoia, Nightbane/Beyond the Supernatural, Deadlands, My Little Pony.

Rateria

Narland wrote:The goal of every good GM is TPK. The trick is to make it so enjoyable they willingly create new characters to start the process all over again. I find the most entertaining rpgs to be the ones where you know the universe is out to get you -- Cyberpunk v.X, Call of Cthulhu, Over the Edge, Paranoia, Nightbane/Beyond the Supernatural, Deadlands, My Little Pony.

I disagree with the TPK part, at least in D&D. Then again, I think you played AD&D 1st or 2nd edition, where the dungeon crawls regularly led to player character deaths. Our difference may be an edition/generational thing.

I want to try Cyberpunk and Call of Cthulhu, but I havenÂ’t heard of most of the other ones.

Also, MLP being a fight for survival against magical ponies sounds hilarious.

Narland

Rateria wrote:I disagree with the TPK part, at least in D&D. Then again, I think you played AD&D 1st or 2nd edition, where the dungeon crawls regularly led to player character deaths. Our difference may be an edition/generational thing.

I want to try Cyberpunk and Call of Cthulhu, but I havenÂ’t heard of most of the other ones.

Also, MLP being a fight for survival against magical ponies sounds hilarious.

I was being tongue in cheek, but halfway serious. :) I think there comes a time with every DM/GM where he wishes that particular session would all just end in a TPK. (Coinciding with the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVhdJQP2GmI laugh).

I was in grade school when D&D first came out. We were fast and loose with the rules. Characters were retired by top level so if they died near the end that was okay too.

When Star Wars came out we converted the monks to jedi and played a weird mashup of Star Wars and Star Trek. The Evil Empire was sandwiched between the Romulan and Klingon Empires. We were the Federation with Jedi! (And no silly Prime Directive). Phasers could only do arrow damage iirc, so we all had light sabers that could only to longsword damage. And for some reason all the places we explored were medieval in tech with names like Planet Blackmoor. :) But we were gradeschoolers.

Our church had a biweekly game night where we were allowed to play D&D until Gygax went on the Merv Griffon Show. (When hearing that Gygax was going to be on the Merv Griffon Show I called my relatives to tune in so they could understand my hobby better). Unfortunately, Gygax when interviewed said that he deliberately made D&D to be offensive to Christians so they wouldn't play his game. And that he did not want Christian playing it. I nearly dropped out of my chair. :( It started a fecal-matter atmospheric disturbance that hasn't ceased. Fundamentalists were already suspicious of this new activity their Evangelical cousins were playing, and that just confirmed their biases -- "See I told you that wargaming habit of yours would devolve into Satanic ritual!" ARRRRRRGGGGGG! Gygax even managed to offend Merv Griffon who was going to underwrite TSR with his business empire. Gygax was his own worst enemy that day. He rolled a one and failed his saving throw. Except for some 3.5, I haven't really gotten into D&D since.

Rateria

Cybperpunk 2020 is my favorite of the cyberpunk games. The cyber has not aged well, but the punk has. Cyberpunk Red is an updated version. Back in the day (I sound like my grandfather), we used the ruleset, scenarios and corporations from R Talisorian, but put the setting in the 2070s with some Bubblegum Crisis/Tank Police thrown in. We changed the target numbers to match a 2d10 system, and added fake game money. Every session a player had to fork over $5000 in play money for his character to enter the game. You could use it to bribe the GM. If the player needed a "favor" from the GM (add a few points to the dice roll) , he had to fork over even more cash. A character that couldn't pay his "protection" for the session had solos (enforcers) show up to try and harvest a kidney or two). Every game session the team had to find a way to make more creds while completing a mission. It was brutal, but everyone enjoyed it.

Call of Cthulhu when done well, everything is suspicious, but normal is the most suspicious thing of all.;) Silent Hill video game imo did a good job of encapsulating the feel of a Lovecraftian setting. Its you against the cosmos and your mind just may betray you. Your character's investigative acumen and a healthy sense of self-preservation are more helpful than anything else. Call of Cthulhu has a well tested ruleset that is good for beginners as well as long-time gamers. Over the Edge has a more lightweight ruleset (incomplete imo) and a excellent Mediterranean setting with even more bizarre happenings, but not a lot in supplemental material. Nightbane/Beyond the Supernatural are rules heavy (Megaversal System from Palladium Games), but once you get the hang of it, everything flows well. For psychological/suspense/thriller/horror rpging we ended up using the BRP from Chaosium (the underlying rules for Call of Cthulhu) and merging the setting with the other supernatural horror rpgs mentioned, added of some of Steven King stories, a bit of the X-files and the Poltergeist TV series to the setting. It was one of the games played on occasion, but not regularly.

Rateria

In Paranoia the fun is that the the system is out to get you. You play a low information "citizen" of low rank and inadequate system authorization in a walled dystopia run by an insane AI. The players are placed in one unwinnable scenario after another. When your character dies (and it will), it gets replaced by a clone with memory up to the last mind-save. Its a great game to play for a break or between sessions of more serious rpging but not meant for long term.

Deadlands is a weird west game. There is a Savage Worlds version by Pinnacle Entertainment. We toned down the weird dramatically, merged the setting with Cowboys vs Aliens, Wild Wild West, League of Extraordinary Gentleman, Kung Fu (tv show), and Valley of the Dinosaurs (i think that was the name of the cowboy movie). TBH there are better rpgs out there.

Joking about MLP. :) It does sound hilarious though.

Currently we are (re)playing a little known game, The Morrow Project. Players are part a team who were (voluntarily) put into cryofreeze to help rebuild civilization after a nuclear apocalypse. It is hard sci-fi (except for the cryotech), so no deathclaws. In a GM twist we have to play characters who were cryogenically frozen from the 1950s, and it is a post apocalypse where the ruling warlords are using higher tech than our characters were trained in. Solid state transistors tech and hula-hoops are the latest greatest thing for us. The warlords still have future-tech artifacts. They cannot recreate the tech, and barely understand it themselves, but it makes them a formidable enemy who are rooting the Morrow Project bunkers out where they can find them.

Rateria

Ghilasine Maxwell is the trial we should be paying attention to

Miencraft, Narland, Kumquat Cove, Auxorii, Rateria

Suzi Island wrote:Ghilasine Maxwell is the trial we should be paying attention to

I honestly forgot about that. Thanks for the reminder.

For those in the US, May you have a Happy Thanksgiving!

Be thankful -- it can always get worse. We have only had one year of unrestrained tax, spend, and regulate to death; one year of Saigons, concerted diminishing of civil rights, creeping Socialism, faked energy crises, world stage humiliations, too many dollars chasing too few goods, sovereign territory give-aways, capitulation to enemies, and an array of administrative goons ready to act, who think they know how to live our lives better than we can ourselves. Mid to Late 20th Century Americans had to put up with nearly 15 years of this from LBJ' s and his so-called "Great Society" to Carter's 21% prime lending rates, +27% inflation, and (in southern Idaho) 30% unemployment -- tbh half of those were working in the underground economy but still. :)

Rateria wrote:I honestly forgot about that. Thanks for the reminder.

Trial begins next week

Rateria

Narland wrote:For those in the US, May you have a Happy Thanksgiving!

Be thankful -- it can always get worse. We have only had one year of unrestrained tax, spend, and regulate to death; one year of Saigons, concerted diminishing of civil rights, creeping Socialism, faked energy crises, world stage humiliations, too many dollars chasing too few goods, sovereign territory give-aways, capitulation to enemies, and an array of administrative goons ready to act, who think they know how to live our lives better than we can ourselves. Mid to Late 20th Century Americans had to put up with nearly 15 years of this from LBJ' s and his so-called "Great Society" to Carter's 21% prime lending rates, +27% inflation, and (in southern Idaho) 30% unemployment -- tbh half of those were working in the underground economy but still. :)

Happy Thanksgiving. Even though things aren't great right now I will always he thankful to be an American and a Christian

Narland

I was shocked that nobody not even Fox mentioned that this Thanksgiving was the 400th Anniversary. 401 years since the Pilgrims learned that top-down communinatrianism (Socialism)) leads to starvation. 400 hundred years of being free from famine, relatively free from pestilence and death, and in that 400 years our own wounds as a country have almost always been self-inflicted.

In 400 years Providence has allowed us to fight against tyranny and despotism to the point of establishing the greatest system of prosperity and equality the world has ever known. Allowing families to own their own businesses (and individuals to own the means of their own production --wiz to own their own property without need for consent of a king, boss, party, faction, cause, strong-man, or warlord) has been the biggest engine to end poverty/generate wealth, outmode slavery/advance liberty, and show the calamitous deficiencies of Statist control/the wondrous self-sufficiency of free market forces in a free and open society. That economic system when allowed to flourish brings nations and continents out of poverty within that generation. For these things I am extremely grateful.

Yet Marxists, and their useful idiots revile it, and shout for riots, mayhem, destruction, and death to replace it with a deranged path of broken promises that always brings democide, perpetual servitude to a ruling class called "the party," and perpetual poverty in every "plan." But In the freedom to worship God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and civilly be our own sovereigns shared others in constitution, we have stopped many forms of Socialism -- Foreign Communism, Fascism, Nazism. We still have to fight the Marxists, and Fabian Socialists in our midst who would destroy this rare jewel of Liberty. The nature of Western Civilization in general, (and American especially and in particular) is that each generation has fought an evil and prevailed. From ending despotism, standing against colonial exploitation, ending slavery, ending forced child labor, ending 2nd class citizenship for women and racial minorities, ending Jim Crow, ending unfair housing practices.

We still have a long way to go in ending the Democrats relentless drive to re-enslave (not just Blacks) but to enslave everyone who isn't a part of their ruling class -- and put us all the on their government run plantations through Socialist and Mixed Economy Marxism -- by whatever means. We have a long way to go in ending RINO Republicans incessant pandering to Corporatism, and Law Enforcement Fascism; and both parties interest in keeping an unjustly corrupt deep state to do their bidding against their real political opposition -- the regular People of these United States; perpetuating forever-wars, and syncophantizing commerce through a debauched banking and debased currency system.

I am grateful that America has done well. She still has a long way yet to go. Reinvigorating the Spirit of Liberty by chastising the liars, thieves, destroyers, and murders in our midst is a challenge that I think the next generation is up for the task to accomplish. We are one of the few nations in the history of the planet that has enshrined Liberty into our Law. Returning to the Law of Liberty and the God of that Liberty so that we have the ear of Divine Providence, that our sins can be forgiven us, and our land can be healed is, I think the next vital step.

“Socialism itself can hope to exist only for brief periods here and there, and then only through the exercise of the extremest terrorism. For this reason it is secretly preparing itself for rule through fear and is driving the word 'justice' into the heads of the half-educated masses like a nail so as to rob them of their reason... and to create in them a good conscience for the evil game they are to play.”

Narland

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:“Socialism itself can hope to exist only for brief periods here and there, and then only through the exercise of the extremest terrorism. For this reason it is secretly preparing itself for rule through fear and is driving the word 'justice' into the heads of the half-educated masses like a nail so as to rob them of their reason... and to create in them a good conscience for the evil game they are to play.”

Socialism is insanity as they say being insane is doing the same thing and expecting different results

Narland

The seemingly never ending pandemic

Narland

As far as the justification for slipping into totalitarianism goes, I never expected it to be disease. If you'd have asked me even just five years ago, I would've said terrorism, maybe resource over-consumption, but disease, really?

Narland

Skaveria wrote:As far as the justification for slipping into totalitarianism goes, I never expected it to be disease. If you'd have asked me even just five years ago, I would've said terrorism, maybe resource over-consumption, but disease, really?

A disease that has only effected society in a minuscule way compared to the totalitarian reaction to the disease...

Narland

Anyone else getting weird lines whenever they try to type on here? I have to go over three lines before it starts.

Skaveria wrote:Anyone else getting weird lines whenever they try to type on here? I have to go over three lines before it starts.

What do you mean by lines?

Skaveria wrote:Anyone else getting weird lines whenever they try to type on here? I have to go over three lines before it starts.

Could it be your device? I connect to NS on 3 different devices, and haven't had any input problems.

Remember the 70s. If you do not remember or were not around for the seventies, ask someone with a sharp mind who does. By sharp mind I mean someone who understands nature, human nature and social contract well, not those schooled in pubic/higher education to the learned ignorance of witless disregard for the fundamental concepts of natural and civil rights, the dignity of personhood, and the inherent respect for liberty that comes with being a decent human being.

Better yet ask a a person with wisdom and a sharp mind what they did to hedge against the economic, social, and political lunacy foisted by the Socialists in our midst back then. The profligate "tax-and-spend-ourselves-into-prosperity -- the only ways and means to progress" (who are always lurking in the background of Beltway politics) have re-ascended. They think the worse the problem, the more righteous it is to throw someone else' money at it. When they say someone else's they of course mean yours.

It is going to be a bad ride. Invest and hedge yourselves against a failing the dollar by all lawful means necessary. Readjust your work/labor contract or professional services to divorce yourself from any ensnaring government programs, worse than useless insurance schemes (not mutually beneficial insurance for your person and household), and as many banking services as legally possible.

Calculate your expenditures accordingly. Get out of debt as quickly and in a reasonably sane manner as possible. Buy or upgrade useful tools and durable devices as quickly as possible before the inflation gets even worse. Prepare to live frugally now, so that you won't loose what you are currently trying to maintain. Coordinate with a good group that does mutual aide like a church or beneficence society.

Re: Previous Post. If you cannot find an old square, Dave Ramsey's Financial Peace University, and Larry Burkett's Crown Financial Ministries are good things to look into for old school personal economics.

Can anyone recommend some good resources for those more interconnected in the social networks and such like world-wide-webbery?

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It could be my device, but it's not happening on any other site, well actually, maybe it's resolved now. I've gone over three lines in this post and it didn't happen.

Narland, Auxorii, Rateria

Sometimes the simplest of critiques are the ones I struggle with the most, not arguing against them, but afterwards when reflecting.

When someone says "How can you justify someone having billions of dollars when people are starving?"

I can go through in my head like "those assets aren't all liquid." and "Nothing justifies theft." but at the same time I have an acute sense that I have to justify being a greedy bastard.

Also the lines are back, I've decided to just ignore them because I don't think they'll show up on the actual post.

Skaveria wrote:Sometimes the simplest of critiques are the ones I struggle with the most, not arguing against them, but afterwards when reflecting.

When someone says "How can you justify someone having billions of dollars when people are starving?"

I can go through in my head like "those assets aren't all liquid." and "Nothing justifies theft." but at the same time I have an acute sense that I have to justify being a greedy bastard.

Also the lines are back, I've decided to just ignore them because I don't think they'll show up on the actual post.

people don't say that stuff to convince you, they say it to make you feel bad for not agreeing with them. you're better off ignoring it, because ultimately there is no answer. because when you do find an answer, you'll find that their questions have changed, though it is still the same tactic at its core. communists do not "argue" as much as they construct a rhetorical rube-goldberg of moralizing and semantics to destabilize their opponents.

Miencraft, Narland, Auxorii, Highway Eighty-Eight

Skaveria wrote:Sometimes the simplest of critiques are the ones I struggle with the most, not arguing against them, but afterwards when reflecting.

When someone says "How can you justify someone having billions of dollars when people are starving?"

I can go through in my head like "those assets aren't all liquid." and "Nothing justifies theft." but at the same time I have an acute sense that I have to justify being a greedy bastard.

Also the lines are back, I've decided to just ignore them because I don't think they'll show up on the actual post.

The States Of Balloon wrote:people don't say that stuff to convince you, they say it to make you feel bad for not agreeing with them. you're better off ignoring it, because ultimately there is no answer. because when you do find an answer, you'll find that their questions have changed, though it is still the same tactic at its core. communists do not "argue" as much as they construct a rhetorical rube-goldberg of moralizing and semantics to destabilize their opponents.

Balloon has an keen point. My usual retort (if I know they are indeed Communists) is something akin to, "Like where, the DPRK?" And then immediately return to the relevant topic at hand.

The people I know who have lived through communism really hate it. Those who want it are usually either young and inexperienced or older and more malevolent

Narland

My response is always:

“Yes, poor people should die.”

Narland, The States Of Balloon

We live in an underwhelming time, but then, maybe my standards are unreasonably high.

I predict that taxes will be higher next year, more children will be born without families, and the legacy of yet another one of our ancestors will be pulled down and replaced with... nothing.

Narland, Auxorii, The United States Of Patriots

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:We live in an underwhelming time, but then, maybe my standards are unreasonably high.

I predict that taxes will be higher next year, more children will be born without families, and the legacy of yet another one of our ancestors will be pulled down and replaced with... nothing.

Once great cities are now high tax high crime high cost places with no room for the middle classes. Small town America has been replaced seemingly with soulless suburban sprawl. Culture has been replaced by garbage

Narland

Media: Blizzard in Hawaii!

Reality: snow on a 14er that gets snow every year according to local meteorologists

Narland

Matt Gaetz suggested that when the GOP takes the house in 2022 that they (the GOP Congress) elect Trump as Speaker of the House. He is obviously trolling. But one of the leftists who meets with us for morning coffee gave us an earful. Trump hasn't been president for over a year, yet the TDS continues. One of the morning crew mumbled, "The Trump is strong in this one." lol.

Narland wrote:Matt Gaetz suggested that when the GOP takes the house in 2022 that they (the GOP Congress) elect Trump as Speaker of the House. He is obviously trolling. But one of the leftists who meets with us for morning coffee gave us an earful. Trump hasn't been president for over a year, yet the TDS continues. One of the morning crew mumbled, "The Trump is strong in this one." lol.

CNN still complains about Trump most of the day so

Miencraft, Narland

Suzi Island wrote:CNN still complains about Trump most of the day so

IC. I put CNN, MSNBC various national news networks (ABC, CBS, NBC PBS/NPR) out to pasture. I stopped listening to BBC News when they stopped shortwave broadcasts (many moons ago) and apparently they have gone downhill badly. Australia News has gotten so bad I cannot listen/watch it anymore either.

I can listen to Fox News (not the talking heads) for a few minutes at a time as well. It has gotten pretty nebulous in its specific generalities. Instead of reporting the who what where when why how and which; it is similar to how awful CNN was 25 years ago). The talking heads (Hannity, Tucker, et al) I can listen to one or two at least twice a week, if/when I have the time.

I stick mainly to Reason, Cato, Mises, Heavy (although it has gotten worse), Western Journal, and then compare it cursorily with Brietbart, WND, OANN, SRN and Epoch. I stopped supporting Heritage when the Neocon influence became too much. Most of the time when I can listen to podcasts it is from sound theologians of the evangelical/Reformed/non-denominational variety.

Unnews: reading, listening, or watching people (usually claiming to be journalists or affiliated with journalism) spouting things of which they know not what to people for whom they care not as long as it garners ratings And the veiwer/reader then gets inundated with adverts/commercials that insults the intelligence of any thinkworthy human being.

The Smollett case is a prime example of why actors don't write scripts

Narland

Miri Islands wrote:The Smollett case is a prime example of why actors don't write scripts

I always wondered why most good script/screenwriters cant act... I suppose all that pent up bitterness detracts from being charismatically convincing on camera. Not that I am bitter, just not convincing on camera. My scripts are too good for them anyway. Yeah. That's it...

The Smollett trial is giving that Dave Chappelle special a second wind in the algorithm, so that's a good thing for him.

My dad asked "Have you heard of that French act-" "JUICY SMOlIET?" I said, having watched that special two years ago.

Who ate my sandwhich left in the company fridge?

Rateria

Muh Roads wrote:Who ate my sandwhich left in the company fridge?

ItÂ’s communal, and you didnÂ’t eat it.

Auxorii

Muh Roads wrote:Who ate my sandwhich left in the company fridge?

Ith the sammach beanub bubber?

Miencraft

Narland wrote:Ith the sammach beanub bubber?

I think it was that hoagie

Narland

Welcome all new people to our region

Narland, Rateria

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:ItÂ’s communal, and you didnÂ’t eat it.

Commies....

Narland

Narland wrote:Ith the sammach beanub bubber?

Suzi Island wrote:I think it was that hoagie

Peanut butter and tuna hoagie. With mayo.

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