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Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Perhaps, but for what purpose would you have done so? I trust you and your fellow Board members not to halt the legislative process to promote your party just as you trust me not to wield the clout of my position to promote mine - to sacrifice the prosperity of the region for petty party politics would be divisive and unfair, and we all know that very well.

I am honored to work with you to make achievements like this possible, but please do note that I don't work for you - every voter shares the credit for the success of this law, not just those who caucus with the majority. My point is, the capacity to benefit ourselves and this region does not lie solely within the establishment, but within each one of us.

I'm just messing with you

Pevvania wrote:I'm thinking of hosting a Superbowl party and inviting some friends around. One problem: I know nothing about the Superbowl, let alone American football. Anyone know where I can educate myself about these things?

Okay, know these terms: Touchdown, field goal, fumble, interception, penalties, and keep getting first downs

No, I don't just want to know how to play, I want to know the teams, the politics, the famous players, etc.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Neutral Good here. I suppose I can live with that.

Same here.

Chaotic Good. Works for me

Right-Winged Nation wrote:I'm just messing with you

Oh, okay. I'll admit, you had me worried :P

Pevvania wrote:No, I don't just want to know how to play, I want to know the teams, the politics, the famous players, etc.

I'm not a big sports guy, but I know a little bit about football. Four teams are in the running for the Super Bowl right now.

First, let's talk AFC (one of the two conferences).

The New England Patriots are a well-established team with quite a few Super Bowl wins already. In my hometown, they're known as filthy cheaters who reviewed illicitly-acquired Rams training footage and used that information to beat St Louis in the Super Bowl a little over a decade ago - their opponents never made it that far in the playoffs since. For that reason, I will never root for them.

Competing for their spot in the Super Bowl are the Indianapolis Colts, a similarly seasoned team. I used to root for them because they had a good quarterback by the name of Peyton Manning, but Manning's older now (close to retirement) and playing for a different team, I believe.

Whichever one of those teams wins the next game, their opponent will be one of these two NFC teams:

The Seattle Seahawks - notably, part of the same division as my hometown's team. I'm surprised they made it this far, but one of my real-life friends is a big fan of theirs. If they make it, I'll be cheering them on too.

Finally, there's the Green Bay Packers, arguably the most iconic football team in America. Though they may be from a small town in Michigan (or something like that), their team has done fairly well throughout the years, and their fans are notorious for wearing hats that look like cheese.

Pevvania wrote:Chaotic Good. Works for me

Lucky...

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:I'm not a big sports guy, but I know a little bit about football. Four teams are in the running for the Super Bowl right now.

First, let's talk AFC (one of the two conferences).

The New England Patriots are a well-established team with quite a few Super Bowl wins already. In my hometown, they're known as filthy cheaters who reviewed illicitly-acquired Rams training footage and used that information to beat St Louis in the Super Bowl a little over a decade ago - their opponents never made it that far in the playoffs since. For that reason, I will never root for them.

**** the Patriots.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Competing for their spot in the Super Bowl are the Indianapolis Colts, a similarly seasoned team. I used to root for them because they had a good quarterback by the name of Peyton Manning, but Manning's older now (close to retirement) and playing for a different team, I believe.

You should still root for the Colts! Andrew Luck is a phenomenal quarterback and a lot of fun to watch. I was hoping I would be able to do so in person, but I didn't win the drawing our NBC station did for tickets and a flight out to Foxborough.

Peyton Manning went to the Denver Broncos, but their fans don't appreciate him and booed him when they were losing to the Colts. Lots of Colts fans, myself included, are hoping he comes back to Indy when he retires.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:The Seattle Seahawks - notably, part of the same division as my hometown's team. I'm surprised they made it this far, but one of my real-life friends is a big fan of theirs. If they make it, I'll be cheering them on too.

Finally, there's the Green Bay Packers, arguably the most iconic football team in America. Though they may be from a small town in Michigan (or something like that), their team has done fairly well throughout the years, and their fans are notorious for wearing hats that look like cheese.

Green Bay is in Wisconsin. Michigan doesn't have a professional football team.

The Wabash wrote:Green Bay is in Wisconsin. Michigan doesn't have a professional football team.

I knew it was either Wisconsin or Michigan - somewhere around the Great Lakes.

Temporarily trading in my blue and gold for blue and white, at least for as long as the Colts remain in contention. Hopefully I get to fly this flag until February!

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:

The New England Patriots are a well-established team with quite a few Super Bowl wins already. In my hometown, they're known as filthy cheaters who reviewed illicitly-acquired Rams training footage and used that information to beat St Louis in the Super Bowl a little over a decade ago - their opponents never made it that far in the playoffs since. For that reason, I will never root for them.

You seem to have some misinformation. The accusation that the Patriots acquired Rams training footage is actually false. Matt Walsh, who was a video assistant for the Patriots in 2001 claimed that he was present at a Ram's practice facility during a practice. However, he said that no video was recorded. The reason why many people believe that that the Patriots filmed practice before the Super Bowl is because the Boston Herald cited an unnamed source saying that they did. However, the unnamed source retracted his claims after further investigation proved he was lying. The only time that the Patriots have ever been proven guilty of cheating was in 2007, however not for filming practices, but instead the Jets' sideline for play calls (a practice admittedly done by plenty of organizations). No valid evidence has been brought to the table regarding any sort of accusation besides the 2007 incident. I am a die-hard Pats fan and it really does annoy me that, because the Pats were caught doing something that plenty of organizations do and of crappy journalism by the Boston Herald, all of their superbowl wins and just wins in general are just met by unoriginal and simply false "Cheatriots" comments.

Capitalanada wrote:You seem to have some misinformation. The accusation that the Patriots acquired Rams training footage is actually false. Matt Walsh, who was a video assistant for the Patriots in 2001 claimed that he was present at a Ram's practice facility during a practice. However, he said that no video was recorded. The reason why many people believe that that the Patriots filmed practice before the Super Bowl is because the Boston Herald cited an unnamed source saying that they did. However, the unnamed source retracted his claims after further investigation proved he was lying. The only time that the Patriots have ever been proven guilty of cheating was in 2007, however not for filming practices, but instead the Jets' sideline for play calls (a practice admittedly done by plenty of organizations). No valid evidence has been brought to the table regarding any sort of accusation besides the 2007 incident. I am a die-hard Pats fan and it really does annoy me that, because the Pats were caught doing something that plenty of organizations do and of crappy journalism by the Boston Herald, all of their superbowl wins and just wins in general are just met by unoriginal and simply false "Cheatriots" comments.

You didn't have to tell me you were a Pats fan - I already would have guessed.

Whether it happened or not, I'm surrounded by (and in agreement with) Rams fans who insist that it did and are still quite bitter about having lost that Super Bowl; the fact that the organization was caught cheating in another instance only solidifies the resentment and heightens the suspicion we have against the Patriots.

I may be obligated to vote against every non-repeal WA proposal, but I still like where the current proposal is coming from. A ban on double taxation would be a step in the right direction.

The Wabash wrote:Temporarily trading in my blue and gold for blue and white, at least for as long as the Colts remain in contention. Hopefully I get to fly this flag until February!

Try until Sunday night. #PatsNation

Green Bay Is In Wisconsin. Michigan Doesn'T Have A Professional Football Team.[/Quote]

[I]Detroit Lions[/I] wrote:

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Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Detroit Lions

You mean to tell us that the Lions play like professionals? Blasphemy ;)

This. I didn't forget about the Lions. All I said was that Michigan doesn't have a professional football team. I'm not wrong!

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:You didn't have to tell me you were a Pats fan - I already would have guessed.

Whether it happened or not, I'm surrounded by (and in agreement with) Rams fans who insist that it did and are still quite bitter about having lost that Super Bowl; the fact that the organization was caught cheating in another instance only solidifies the resentment and heightens the suspicion we have against the Patriots.

Last time I checked it was innocent until proven guilty not the other way around. You can have you're "suspicions" all you want but that doesn't mean it happened. The only reason Rams fans are still suspicious is because they are still holding on to the "greatest show on turf" from 12 years ago plus the Patriots are successful. If the Patriots only won in 2002 and they sucked from there onwards, nobody would be complaining.

Capitalanada wrote:Last time I checked it was innocent until proven guilty not the other way around.

This ain't politics we're talking about.

This is football.

Capitalanada wrote:The only reason Rams fans are still suspicious is because they are still holding on to the "greatest show on turf" from 12 years ago plus the Patriots are successful. If the Patriots only won in 2002 and they sucked from there onwards, nobody would be complaining.

There's probably some truth to that.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:This ain't politics we're talking about.

This is football.

I'd agree to it being football, not politics, except every Sunda Night during the regular season I get to listen to Bob Costas at halftime rant about whatever is happening at the time. After Sandy Hook it was "I'm Bob Costas, and even though this is football, I'm going to plug my pro-gun control ideals upon you million of viewers" and after Ferguson it was "I'm Bob Costas, and even though this is football, I have officially changed my race to African American and I will be signing off to go join my brethren in Ferguson, Mississipi. F*** the police and goodnight"

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Lol

I messed up...Missouri....man that was bad. My entire argument has become invalid

Capitalanada wrote:I messed up...Missouri....man that was bad. My entire argument has become invalid

Oh - for a minute, I thought that you thought that the guy actually sounded like that. "I don't know where Ferguson is, but my heart is there" or something like that :P

[quote=conservative_idealism_in_libertatem;9456634]Detroit Lions[/quote]

You mean to tell us that the Lions play like professionals? Blasphemy ;)[/quote]

They did make the playoffs.....[quote=the_wabash;9456663]This. I didn't forget about the Lions. All I said was that Michigan doesn't have a professional football team. I'm not wrong![/quote]

You forgot.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Oh - for a minute, I thought that you thought that the guy actually sounded like that. "I don't know where Ferguson is, but my heart is there" or something like that :P

Damn, should have kept with it lol

Ankha wrote:You forgot.

No, I definitely didn't... Any team that allows a player like Ndamukong Suh to play like he does is not a professional team.

I think we may have actually given Pev more information than he needed

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:I think we may have actually given Pev more information than he needed

Ya take one nap....

The Wabash wrote:No, I definitely didn't... Any team that allows a player like Ndamukong Suh to play like he does is not a professional team.

Suhs just a total jerk. And he should've lost tht appeal a couple weeks ago too.

Ankha wrote:Suhs just a total jerk. And he should've lost tht appeal a couple weeks ago too.

I feel like if you have been fined for a whopping total of $420,669 over your career, you need to change something about your style of play.

Capitalanada wrote:I feel like if you have been fined for a whopping total of $420,669 over your career, you need to change something about your style of play.

Ya maybe a little. And he's gotten suspended too

The population of Rotgeheim reached 5 billion last night. There's a lot of us now.

really hopping today.

Humpheria wrote:really hopping today.

Infinite activity going on right now, yo.

I've got an excuse for not being around, though, and that's because I've more or less been sitting around all day watching IRC (if you don't know what it is go look it up) on account of how I recently became a moderator for a great TF2 community.

So, you know, I totally could have said something if I wanted to.

I guess I didn't because the entire RMB up to now has been football, and I have no idea how that works.

I've done my best to model my nation after my personal views (with a few radical "let's see what happens") and I'm not really sure how I feel about my progress.

This is my first opportunity to use the computer today. Can't wait to buy my own again.

Poortasia

Poortasia wrote:I've done my best to model my nation after my personal views (with a few radical "let's see what happens") and I'm not really sure how I feel about my progress.

It'll eventually smooth itself out. In the first year it will be rocky, as your choices greatly sway your country's policies. But over the years it will smooth itself out and your nation should reflect your personal beliefs.

That's how it went for me, anyway.

Rotgeheim wrote:It'll eventually smooth itself out. In the first year it will be rocky, as your choices greatly sway your country's policies. But over the years it will smooth itself out and your nation should reflect your personal beliefs.

That's how it went for me, anyway.

I'll take your word on that, thank you.

Poortasia wrote:I'll take your word on that, thank you.

I created my nation back in 2012 when I was a sophomore in high school, and I still use it. I only address the issues that I want to address, which I think has a great impact on the shaping of my country.

I think I'm a Seahawks fan.

Hey guys, I'm kinda new around here so I thought I'd do my greetings

The Broncos freaking suck, dude. With a quarterback like Wilson and the recent shake-up in tactics, the Seahawks should crush the Packers. We've got the momentum we need.

Board Meeting 5

Chairman calls a vote: pursuant to Fraud Act- Section VI:III, I motion the reinstatement of the citizenship of The New United States.

Chairman votes AYE.

Note - please record your responses on the RMB.

[nation=short]Right-Winged Nation[/nation] votes AYE

Pevvania wrote:The Broncos freaking suck, dude. With a quarterback like Wilson and the recent shake-up in tactics, the Seahawks should crush the Packers. We've got the momentum we need.

Talk less scripty. But yes, the broncos suck, they should roll the packers, then get wrecked by the Patriots in the Super Bowl.

Pevvania wrote:The Broncos freaking suck, dude. With a quarterback like Wilson and the recent shake-up in tactics, the Seahawks should crush the Packers. We've got the momentum we need.

Get out of here. You learned about football like two days ago. Broncos were great before Manning, great with Manning, and will be great after Manning.

Humpheria wrote:Get out of here. You learned about football like two days ago. Broncos were great before Manning, great with Manning, and will be great after Manning.

That's true. I am still open to convincing. The Broncos haven't won any Superbowls since the late 90s, and their passes during last year's were so slow and predictable. Manning has a lot of work to do with them.

Pevvania wrote:That's true. I am still open to convincing. The Broncos haven't won any Superbowls since the late 90s, and their passes during last year's were so slow and predictable. Manning has a lot of work to do with them.

The point is you shouldn't like the Broncos.

Pevvania wrote:That's true. I am still open to convincing. The Broncos haven't won any Superbowls since the late 90s, and their passes during last year's were so slow and predictable. Manning has a lot of work to do with them.

Woah, Pevv I am impressed. By the way, I think that the Seahawks will lose to the packers

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Woah, Pevv I am impressed. By the way, I think that the Seahawks will lose to the packers

I'm starting to think so too. Rodgers might be injured, but he still managed to pull some great yards against the Cowboys. He might do it.

Pevvania wrote:I'm starting to think so too. Rodgers might be injured, but he still managed to pull some great yards against the Cowboys. He might do it.

Besides, Seattle struggled vs Carolina

Pevvania wrote:I'm starting to think so too. Rodgers might be injured, but he still managed to pull some great yards against the Cowboys. He might do it.

No, the refs gave him the win.....(but I want GB)

Ankha wrote:No, the refs gave him the win.....(but I want GB)

Dez Bryant didn't make the catch, the refs did not give him the win

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Dez Bryant didn't make the catch, the refs did not give him the win

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Dez Bryant didn't make the catch, the refs did not give him the win

He made the catch. Then he lunged to try and get a touchdown.

Ankha wrote:He made the catch. Then he lunged to try and get a touchdown.

Nah, he didn't complete the process.

Pevvania wrote:I think I'm a Seahawks fan.

Green Bay's winning, but I'm still rooting for the Seahawks as well.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Green Bay's winning, but I'm still rooting for the Seahawks as well.

Go Colts...

Pevv, don't be a seahawks fan

Senecah wrote:Hey guys, I'm kinda new around here so I thought I'd do my greetings

Welcome, Kumpel.

I don't like football. I'm more of a hockey fan myself. Go Blues!

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Pevv, don't be a seahawks fan

Yeah, I'm thinking of supporting the Packers.

Pevvania wrote:Yeah, I'm thinking of supporting the Packers.

That is a good pick. I unfortunately became a charger fan, and I have experienced a lot of heart break because of it, but I can't leave now.

Humpheria wrote:Go Colts...

I thought I liked u...demon spawn.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Pevv, don't be a seahawks fan

Pevvania wrote:Yeah, I'm thinking of supporting the Packers.

Ditto

Pevvania wrote:Yeah, I'm thinking of supporting the Packers.

PATS

Ankha wrote:I thought I liked u...demon spawn.DittoPATS

He was born in Indiana, I mean it makes sense

Humpheria wrote:Go Colts...

Yeah, go Colts. Or at the very least, any team that isn't the Pats.

Rotgeheim wrote:I created my nation back in 2012 when I was a sophomore in high school, and I still use it. I only address the issues that I want to address, which I think has a great impact on the shaping of my country.

I feel as if every issue I run across has enough merit to answer, but I'm going to have to start dismissing the really insane ones. Seriously though, thanks for the heads up. I'm still learning about this game and in turn actually having to learn about governmental agencies and politics.

Time/Deseret/whatever else he was called said I should leave a message with y'all.

Firstly, he's still an economic centrist and social libertarian.

He won't be on again for possibly ever.

He's having issues in his religion. Last I checked, he was question his Mormonism and is currently looking into what he truly believes in.

He also wanted me to inform you guys that he was my pet. Not to be confused with puppet, he was my human pet. Let that mean to you what it will.

Simply put, his parents found out about it and do not approve. So he's no longer allowed on NS.

Sulania wrote:Time/Deseret/whatever else he was called said I should leave a message with y'all.

Firstly, he's still an economic centrist and social libertarian.

He won't be on again for possibly ever.

He's having issues in his religion. Last I checked, he was question his Mormonism and is currently looking into what he truly believes in.

He also wanted me to inform you guys that he was my pet. Not to be confused with puppet, he was my human pet. Let that mean to you what it will.

Simply put, his parents found out about it and do not approve. So he's no longer allowed on NS.

You guys are so weird over there.

Sulania wrote:Time/Deseret/whatever else he was called said I should leave a message with y'all.

Firstly, he's still an economic centrist and social libertarian.

He won't be on again for possibly ever.

He's having issues in his religion. Last I checked, he was question his Mormonism and is currently looking into what he truly believes in.

He also wanted me to inform you guys that he was my pet. Not to be confused with puppet, he was my human pet. Let that mean to you what it will.

Simply put, his parents found out about it and do not approve. So he's no longer allowed on NS.

If the second-to-last line were non-existent, I would have had a much better reading experience.

The Packer Seattle game has been entertaining, and they are still going.

The packers just blew it.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Alright, Seahawks!

I am in disbelief, I am not a Packer fan but if I was I would be furious. All the packers had to do was recover an onside kick and the game was over, I mean it looked like something the San Diego Chargers would have done.

Looks like I'm still a Seahawks fan. The Packers really blew it. I gotta say, though, that Rodgers played pretty well tonight.

Sulania wrote:Time/Deseret/whatever else he was called said I should leave a message with y'all.

Firstly, he's still an economic centrist and social libertarian.

He won't be on again for possibly ever.

He's having issues in his religion. Last I checked, he was question his Mormonism and is currently looking into what he truly believes in.

He also wanted me to inform you guys that he was my pet. Not to be confused with puppet, he was my human pet. Let that mean to you what it will.

Simply put, his parents found out about it and do not approve. So he's no longer allowed on NS.

Looking forward to TTA Comeback 12: The Movie. Should remember to bring popcorn next time.

Pevvania wrote:Looks like I'm still a Seahawks fan. The Packers really blew it. I gotta say, though, that Rodgers played pretty well tonight.

Looking forward to TTA Comeback 12: The Movie. Should remember to bring popcorn next time.

Yeah, can't blame Rodgers for the loss. Oooh, Can I direct that movie? And third, wait so TTA........................ uh if that is what I think that means, then that would make him a homosexual?

I like Rare Magazine. Aside from the pro-GOP stuff, it provides a lot of introductory, digestible articles designed to draw conservatives towards libertarianism. It doesn't contain much that libertarians don't already know, but it's still a useful ideological tool.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Yeah, can't blame Rodgers for the loss. Oooh, Can I direct that movie? And third, wait so TTA........................ uh if that is what I think that means, then that would make him a homosexual?

Is TTA a homosexual? This is news to me.

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Rotgeheim wrote:Is TTA a homosexual? This is news to me.

He was a dude's pet, so I think so

Right-Winged Nation wrote:He was a dude's pet, so I think so

I have nothing against the gays, but I do find that last bit about him being a pet to put me off. I don't like it.

Rotgeheim wrote:I have nothing against the gays, but I do find that last bit about him being a pet to put me off. I don't like it.

I don't have anything against gays either, but it makes me wonder. I just thought of something else, if he was a "pet", was he a furry?

Right-Winged Nation wrote:I don't have anything against gays either, but it makes me wonder. I just thought of something else, if he was a "pet", was he a furry?

I don't think they have to go hand in hand like that, but maybe there's a correlation somewhere.

Whatever he was, I don't like it.

Rotgeheim wrote:I don't think they have to go hand in hand like that, but maybe there's a correlation somewhere.

Whatever he was, I don't like it.

Yeah, it's weird. Maybe if he ever comes back he'll explain

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Yeah, it's weird. Maybe if he ever comes back he'll explain

I won't stick around to hear that explanation. I don't like the air about him.

Rotgeheim wrote:I won't stick around to hear that explanation. I don't like the air about him.

I would be surprised, but given his horse thing I am not.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:I would be surprised, but given his horse thing I am not.

Horse thing? I haven't heard of that either. Is it worth sharing without triggering my gag reflex?

Rotgeheim wrote:Horse thing? I haven't heard of that either. Is it worth sharing without triggering my gag reflex?

Let's just say he wanted horses, he found them... attractive.

I'm excited to see American Sniper

Right-Winged Nation wrote:I'm excited to see American Sniper

Me too.

Speaking of films, I saw Birdman yesterday. A brilliant film and a fantastic return for Michael Keaton, it's unmissable.

I'm not leaving my house until next season. Ugh. Damn Patriots.

Humpheria wrote:I'm not leaving my house until next season. Ugh. Damn Patriots.

My mom is feeling the exact same way about her packers, she is a Wisconsin native.

Pevvania wrote:Me too.

Speaking of films, I saw Birdman yesterday. A brilliant film and a fantastic return for Michael Keaton, it's unmissable.

What is Birdman even about? I heard it's good, but I don't know what it is.

Told me to post this here...

He's likely to never come back.

He's Straight, but finds comfort in guys moreso than girls. Also submissive.

He's not a furry. "No, not at all... Just no."

He's not attracted to horses, in truth. Only in a few cases.

He can look at the site but can't post.

Sulania wrote:Told me to post this here...

He's likely to never come back.

He's Straight, but finds comfort in guys moreso than girls. Also submissive.

He's not a furry. "No, not at all... Just no."

He's not attracted to horses, in truth. Only in a few cases.

He can look at the site but can't post.

I think it's safe to say that most of us don't want to know Time's intimate details.

Sulania wrote:Told me to post this here...

He's likely to never come back.

He's Straight, but finds comfort in guys moreso than girls. Also submissive.

He's not a furry. "No, not at all... Just no."

He's not attracted to horses, in truth. Only in a few cases.

He can look at the site but can't post.

Uh.....

I'm just following orders.

Sulania wrote:Told me to post this here...

He's likely to never come back.

He's Straight, but finds comfort in guys moreso than girls. Also submissive.

He's not a furry. "No, not at all... Just no."

He's not attracted to horses, in truth. Only in a few cases.

He can look at the site but can't post.

Sulania wrote:I'm just following orders.

Well, don't. I can guarantee to you that nobody here cares about that kid's sick sexual details. You're spamming our RMB with inappropriate material and I respectfully request that you stop.

Humpheria wrote:Well, don't. I can guarantee to you that nobody here cares about that kid's sick sexual details. You're spamming our RMB with inappropriate material and I respectfully request that you stop.

*I say that with full knowledge that TTA will likely see that*

Humpheria wrote:Well, don't. I can guarantee to you that nobody here cares about that kid's sick sexual details. You're spamming our RMB with inappropriate material and I respectfully request that you stop.

LOL, HUMP YOU NAILED IT

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