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The Ambassador To The Clfr wrote:**Raises a toast**

To the constitution!

*raises glass* To the Constitution! Cheers!

Now that we have a Constitution we should consider Amendments... ;)

Narland wrote:Now that we have a Constitution we should consider Amendments... ;)

Well, actually, the first thing to decide is if people like the flag I just put in.

Otherwise, we get to have people suggest and make their own flags, which will be awesome.

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Miencraft wrote:Well, actually, the first thing to decide is if people like the flag I just put in.

Otherwise, we get to have people suggest and make their own flags, which will be awesome.

I was going to make a flag with a liberty torch as the blazon but Google, Bing, and Yahoo are to stupid to separate the emblematic Liberty Torch used historically from the torch of the Statue of Liberty.

Shirayuki Mizore wrote:RIP old flag.

RIP old 'Tatem.

Congratulations on the new Constitution, Libertatem!

I am not overly active but I am willing to jump in wherever I am needed.

New Jaslandia, Libertitad

Humpheria wrote:Congratulations on the new Constitution, Libertatem!

I am not overly active but I am willing to jump in wherever I am needed.

Did you get the new flag I sent you?

Humpheria

Miencraft wrote:Well, actually, the first thing to decide is if people like the flag I just put in.

Otherwise, we get to have people suggest and make their own flags, which will be awesome.

Ah flags, the one thing Libertatem could never make up it's damn mind about.

The Aradites wrote:Ah flags, the one thing Libertatem could never make up it is damn mind about.

Just so you're aware of what you said!

The Aradites

Miencraft wrote:RIP old 'Tatem.

Old 'Tatem died long ago

The United States Of Patriots wrote:Old 'Tatem died long ago

True enough, I suppose.

Shirayuki Mizore wrote:RIP old flag.

The flag is dead, long live the flag!

ALL RISE FOR THE KAISER!

Northern Prussia wrote:ALL RISE FOR THE KAISER!

Are you the one that went off to the military? If so welcome back. (I might be thinking of RWN)

Northern Prussia wrote:ALL RISE FOR THE KAISER!

Oh, hey, you're back.

Guys. Im falling in love with an anarcha-feminist... and then she pulled the "not true communism" card. How do i tell her politely to go bungee jump off a bridge without the cord?

Muh Roads wrote:Guys. Im falling in love with an anarcha-feminist... and then she pulled the "not true communism" card. How do i tell her politely to go bungee jump off a bridge without the cord?

"It's not that you're wrong, it's just that your opinions are terrible."

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Libertitad, Wyattish

The 2010 Grammy Album of the year should've gone to Queen Beyonce, I am Sasha Fierce snatches a wig from all the other albums nominated tbh

So I just hit 10 billion population.

Crazy.

New Jaslandia, Rateria, Salton Juncture

Does this region have a regional army fighting against the communists?

Capitopia World wrote:Does this region have a regional army fighting against the communists?

Not anymore. The First Republic was dedicated to fighting a War on Communism, but we crushed our enemy and secured a victorious end to the War.

If militant Communists return in force, perhaps we will return to fighting them, but there is no need for our War any longer.

Libertitad

Unrelated, the first Senatorial elections ever will be at the start of July, so sign up now.

Greetings!

Newfound America here. Thought I should introduce myself. I am the soon-to-be president of the Conservative League, and I hope to increase relations with one of our biggest allies!

Y'all got a flag change?! I thought that'd never happen.

Baxten wrote:Y'all got a flag change?! I thought that'd never happen.

I mean, we also got a new Constitution, so that's kind of major.

Newfound America wrote:Greetings!

Newfound America here. Thought I should introduce myself. I am the soon-to-be president of the Conservative League, and I hope to increase relations with one of our biggest allies!

Also, hullo.

Miencraft wrote:I mean, we also got a new Constitution, so that's kind of major.

Oh, really? That's cool

Dear friends,

Ireland has found itself under attack again and we would all greatly appreciate any help you might send. If you have the mind do, head on over to Ireland and endorse The Fenian Republic of Cu Mara.

Slainte.

Miencraft wrote:"It's not that you're wrong, it's just that your opinions are terrible."

"It's that you're wrong, and your opinions are terrible."

Rateria, Bastians

The United States Of Patriots wrote:"It's that you're wrong, and your opinions are terrible."

"Hell, you're just a terrible person."

That escalated quickly but I don't care.

Rateria, Bastians

I lay tribute to his Holiness, Emperor Muh Roads! Titular Emperor of Libertatem and God of Liberty. May all mighty Roads bless Libertatem and the new government.

Falcarragh wrote:Ireland has found itself under attack again and we would all greatly appreciate any help you might send. If you have the mind do, head on over to Ireland and endorse The Fenian Republic of Cu Mara.

I moved there, endorsed Cu Mara, but got banjected. Anyone else want to try, or do we just let those we have an embassy with get conquered?

Castaway Island Of Wilson wrote:I moved there, endorsed Cu Mara, but got banjected. Anyone else want to try, or do we just let those we have an embassy with get conquered?

Well, no military anymore, so...

Shirayuki Mizore wrote:Well, no military anymore, so...

Plus, we're kind of all out of active people with WA nations anyways.

Speaking of active people, I'd hate to bring this up in the same post as this, but:

We need volunteers to run for Senate. Elections start July 1, so if you're a citizen, put your name in the hat. If you're lucky, only three people will volunteer and we won't need elections.

And it goes without saying that I'll be running for President at the end of July. Anyone that wants to try that is welcome to, once we get the three Senate seats done.

Libertitad

Miencraft wrote:Plus, we're kind of all out of active people with WA nations anyways.

Speaking of active people, I'd hate to bring this up in the same post as this, but:

We need volunteers to run for Senate. Elections start July 1, so if you're a citizen, put your name in the hat. If you're lucky, only three people will volunteer and we won't need elections.

And it goes without saying that I'll be running for President at the end of July. Anyone that wants to try that is welcome to, once we get the three Senate seats done.

Well, I can't do so for reasons of which I've made you aware, so... Good luck, all who volunteer! ;)

I'll run for senate

If we run for senate, what responsibilities do we have?

The Aradites wrote:I'll run for senate

Cool.

Bastians wrote:If we run for senate, what responsibilities do we have?

It's in the Constitution, brah. Just click Laws and read up.

Bastians

I have managed to find the most retarded meme: http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/4e/4e9c74ccd70825628364a95bd8c7165f3d6c2ebb99a7bc045eafba636933b0ce.jpg

Pevvania

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I have managed to find the most retarded meme: http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/4e/4e9c74ccd70825628364a95bd8c7165f3d6c2ebb99a7bc045eafba636933b0ce.jpg

That actually hurt to read. Good job!

Rateria, Bastians

Miencraft wrote:Cool.

It's in the Constitution, brah. Just click Laws and read up.

Right. I knew that. I was testing you.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I have managed to find the most retarded meme: http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/4e/4e9c74ccd70825628364a95bd8c7165f3d6c2ebb99a7bc045eafba636933b0ce.jpg

In general, I find short political memes like that to be annoying, and that goes for both sides. I doubt anyone is gonna completely change their political philosophy based on a picture and a few lines of text.

Bastians

Bastians wrote:Right. I knew that. I was testing you.

Protip: Don't do that.

So are you gonna be going for the Senate or not?

Bastians

Miencraft wrote:Protip: Don't do that.

So are you gonna be going for the Senate or not?

Haha, right, sorry.

Not sure, let me see how many other people are going to run, and if there are enough, I won't.

Also, Libertarians: what are your opinions on Britain leaving/staying in the EU?

Bastians wrote:Also, Libertarians: what are your opinions on Britain leaving/staying in the EU?

Britain should leave; free trade unions are great, but when it comes to fiscal/regulatory unions with minimal checks and balances... no.

Republic Of Minerva, Bastians, Libertitad

Bastians wrote:Also, Libertarians: what are your opinions on Britain leaving/staying in the EU?

Get the hell outta there, I say.

Related: US should leave the UN.

The United States Of Patriots, Bastians, Libertitad

Miencraft wrote:Get the hell outta there, I say.

Related: US should leave the UN.

The EU and all related organizations should disband, US should leave the UN, and both the US and former EU nations should devote their international attention to helping NATO.

Miencraft, Republic Of Minerva, Kumquat Cove, Bastians, Libertitad, Federal-Conservative Leer

Modern democracy is a scam. The only legitimate form of democracy in my eyes is market democracy - the market is the most democratic institution that exists.

Castaway Island Of Wilson, Libertitad

Where's Pev? I think he'd be on, considering it's the EU referendum

Federal-Conservative Leer

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Modern democracy is a scam. The only legitimate form of democracy in my eyes is market democracy - the market is the most democratic institution that exists.

Wall street is to rigged for even that to be legitimate. Conservative Democracy is the way to go. Don't be all legalize everything like some Libertarians...*looks at Rand Paul suspiciously* Seriously, there is no other way for true Democracy to sustain itself without falling to Leftism, Fascism, Ultranationalism, crony Capitalism and the like.

Libertitad

I'd like to run for senate. I think we need to discuss what happened to Ireland and ways to prevent it from happening here.

Libertitad wrote:I'd like to run for senate. I think we need to discuss what happened to Ireland and ways to prevent it from happening here.

Libertatem is currently safe. As long as the "founder" is careful.

I'm ecstatic. Britons have successfully secured their Liberties from the tyranny of the European Union. I was almost going to give up on it from a libertarian standpoint, but there is hope for the UK, especially if mophead (Boris Johnson) becomes Prime Minister. Hopefully he can wrestle out the far-right and bring some needed economic reforms to the UK while fighting against the nanny state.

Libertitad

Brexit is tough--do you love it because the Brits get to vote on their own immigration/trade/etc. or do you hate it because it closes borders and hurts the economy. (Stock markets are going to crash tomorrow.)

Personally, I'm for it, but a better solution would be to shut off all the welfare and now there's no incentive for freeloaders to come over the Channel.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I'm ecstatic. Britons have successfully secured their Liberties from the tyranny of the European Union. I was almost going to give up on it from a libertarian standpoint, but there is hope for the UK, especially if mophead (Boris Johnson) becomes Prime Minister. Hopefully he can wrestle out the far-right and bring some needed economic reforms to the UK while fighting against the nanny state.

I've not been following it particularly closely. Is it final yet, or is it still unofficial?

Libertitad wrote:I'd like to run for senate. I think we need to discuss what happened to Ireland and ways to prevent it from happening here.

Alright then.

There is absolutely no way that we can get invaded in any meaningful way. We have a WA delegate with no power and a Founder that is infinitely active. Not to mention that whoever the President is gets to have the Founder's powers as well.

Sure, someone can come over with a bunch of their friends and install their own delegate, but they can do exactly 0 things, and we'd just kick them out before they can even do that.

We are essentially invincible.

Bastians, Libertitad

Castaway Island Of Wilson wrote:Brexit is tough--do you love it because the Brits get to vote on their own immigration/trade/etc. or do you hate it because it closes borders and hurts the economy. (Stock markets are going to crash tomorrow.)

Personally, I'm for it, but a better solution would be to shut off all the welfare and now there's no incentive for freeloaders to come over the Channel.

The EU is massively broken and the UK's continued membership would only turn out detrimental to them.

Open borders is a nice idea, but it's really not something anyone should be doing, especially not now.

Stock markets going to crash? Oh, wow, people are going to flip out because the Brits did something. Big deal.

Bastians

Miencraft wrote:Alright then.

There is absolutely no way that we can get invaded in any meaningful way. We have a WA delegate with no power and a Founder that is infinitely active. Not to mention that whoever the President is gets to have the Founder's powers as well.

Sure, someone can come over with a bunch of their friends and install their own delegate, but they can do exactly 0 things, and we'd just kick them out before they can even do that.

We are essentially invincible.

Don't be too confident. It makes the few things that could go wrong so much more likely to happen.

Shirayuki Mizore wrote:Don't be too confident. It makes the few things that could go wrong so much more likely to happen.

The one mistake we can make at this point is letting Lib cease to be.

Because pretty much every president has had the power to at least make sure that doesn't happen, and Lib himself isn't exactly inactive, we'll be safe for as long as we have a region.

Miencraft wrote:The one mistake we can make at this point is letting Lib cease to be.

Because pretty much every president has had the power to at least make sure that doesn't happen, and Lib himself isn't exactly inactive, we'll be safe for as long as we have a region.

Just remember that your greatest strength is also your greatest weakness. I've seen many regions fall due to multi-user founders. Just don't be reckless or overconfident, eh?

Shirayuki Mizore wrote:Just remember that your greatest strength is also your greatest weakness. I've seen many regions fall due to multi-user founders. Just don't be reckless or overconfident, eh?

This is true.

But, hey, I like saying we're invincible. Sounds nice.

Oh and we need one more person to run for Senate.

The economy reacting is a temporary problem. If anything its a great buying opportunity for longterm investors. The EU is garbage. I will let it bottom out and invest more in the traditional market. It's great publicity for bitcoin too lol

I'm trying to order some books on austrian economics and now I have to wait a few weeks before doing so because CANADA POST MIGHT GO STRIKE and the books could end up in purgatory. I really hate how ironic this situation is.

Republic Of Minerva, Rateria

Libertitad wrote:The economy reacting is a temporary problem. If anything its a great buying opportunity for longterm investors. The EU is garbage. I will let it bottom out and invest more in the traditional market. It's great publicity for bitcoin too lol

Woah! Something's happening! Better panic!

Libertitad

Libertatem: con come over

Me: can't, busy trying to save ireland

Libertatem: we have a new government

Me:

Nova Condealism

So are there any spots open? ;)

Nova Condealism wrote:So are there any spots open? ;)

There's a Senate seat with your name on it if you want your citizenship back.

I don't seem to remember you giving it up but you're not on the list so you must have. If you want both you can take 'em.

Miencraft wrote:I don't seem to remember you giving it up but you're not on the list so you must have.

That I did, though I didn't make a spectacle of it, as I recall.

Miencraft wrote:If you want both you can take 'em.

Sounds like a plan.

Nova Condealism wrote:Sounds like a plan.

Boom. You're now a citizen and you're running for Senate.

Miencraft wrote:Boom. You're now a citizen and you're running for Senate.

Excellent.

Now, to campaign. A vote for me is a vote for me!

So we have 3 people running now?

Post self-deleted by Libertitad.

I'm gonna be the best damm senator this new constitution has ever had.

Yeah? Well, I'm gonna be the best radio host Libertatem has ever had.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=374149

Bastians wrote:So we have 3 people running now?

Yeah, feel free to run anyways so we actually have some kind of election.

Miencraft wrote:Yeah, feel free to run anyways so we actually have some kind of election.

Ok, I'll think about it.

Um... who else feels we should put together a Irish Liberation Coalition? Save Ireland's ass by allying with anti-UK and anti-Monarchists, and all of Ireland's former allies. We would outnumber UK eventually.

Federal-Conservative Leer wrote:-snip-

It's not wise to discuss military plans on the RMB, even if they're purely theoretical.

Also, could I run for Senate or another position to help put this in place? Also, I would be looking out for operatives from Antifa, Nazi Europa, MT Army, North Korea, Fascist Order and such scums. They have eyes everywhere and have trouble differentiating us Conservatives, Libertarians and Classical Liberals from their enemies in the Leftist Civil War (actually it is the Socialist/Anarchist-Fascist/Nationalist Conflict but all of them are Leftist no matter what the latter says as they are big government goons as well), as I had a Conservative region taken down by an NE puppet.

Nova Condealism wrote:It's not wise to discuss military plans on the RMB, even if they're purely theoretical.

I know. The only reason I did was cause my tab crashes every time I Tele. Also I know it prob won't go.

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Federal-Conservative Leer wrote:Also, could I run for Senate or another position to help put this in place? Also, I would be looking out for operatives from Antifa, Nazi Europa, MT Army, North Korea, Fascist Order and such scums. They have eyes everywhere and have trouble differentiating us Conservatives, Libertarians and Classical Liberals from their enemies in the Leftist Civil War (actually it is the Socialist/Anarchist-Fascist/Nationalist Conflict but all of them are Leftist no matter what the latter says as they are big government goons as well), as I had a Conservative region taken down by an NE puppet.

1) I'd still like to have you stick around for a little bit longer before I'm comfortable giving you citizenship.

2) I'm personally not particularly comfortable with targeting people that aren't a direct threat to Libertatem (and I'm sure a lot of other people here would agree with me on that; it's kinda why we don't have the War on Communism anymore), but if you really think you can get somewhere with a platform like that, then go ahead with whatever you want to do once you're a citizen.

Nova Condealism

We do not either have the manpower nor the dedication to do such a war. Libertarianism has always been about self-defense, that is we'll attack if we are attacked, and that's just it.

Bastians, Libertitad, Nova Condealism

Miencraft wrote:1) I'd still like to have you stick around for a little bit longer before I'm comfortable giving you citizenship.

2) I'm personally not particularly comfortable with targeting people that aren't a direct threat to Libertatem (and I'm sure a lot of other people here would agree with me on that; it's kinda why we don't have the War on Communism anymore), but if you really think you can get somewhere with a platform like that, then go ahead with whatever you want to do once you're a citizen.

Ok. The War on Communism, however, is different. It is a war on a dastardly ideology that is a direct threat to not just us, but everyone. That's just me, though. I don't trust unbiased people. Hehehe...

Miencraft wrote:I'm personally not particularly comfortable with targeting people that aren't a direct threat to Libertatem (and I'm sure a lot of other people here would agree with me on that; it's kinda why we don't have the War on Communism anymore), but if you really think you can get somewhere with a platform like that, then go ahead with whatever you want to do once you're a citizen.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:We do not either have the manpower nor the dedication to do such a war. Libertarianism has always been about self-defense, that is we'll attack if we are attacked, and that's just it.

I agree wholeheartedly. It's good to be back now that opinions like these are prevailing.

Libertitad

Federal-Conservative Leer wrote:Ok. The War on Communism, however, is different. It is a war on a dastardly ideology that is a direct threat to not just us, but everyone. That's just me, though. I don't trust unbiased people. Hehehe...

That "direct threat" has been on our doorstep for more than two years now, and the best they could do was spit in our eye. It's not different in the slightest.

Nova Condealism wrote:That "direct threat" has been on our doorstep for more than two years now, and the best they could do was spit in our eye. It's not different in the slightest.

Its not like we are major enough to be attacked immediately. The threat is always direct, but not in the sense of immediate attack. Espionage, puppet or proxy war, hacking, and unfair treating of our allies in among that. It is unhealthy to stay on the defensive. Letting them come to us is how hundreds of regions and nations have been destroyed. Sometimes it does take years, to gather your puppets and allies to destroy a region from the inside by spamming WA endorsements with said gathered nations to become WA delegate as happened to my region. It is VERY different in that it is frightening and more than possible. The fact is you never know who they are or where they are until its to late or YOU go on the offensive and spy, attack, and prevent like I failed to do.

Federal-Conservative Leer wrote:The fact is you never know who they are or where they are until its to late or YOU go on the offensive and spy, attack, and prevent like I failed to do.

And you are?

Nova Condealism wrote:And you are?

What do you mean "and you are"? I was the leader of a region called the Union of Conservatives in Opposition until a NE puppet came and used his other puppets to spam WA endorsements until he was WA Delegate and he kicked all of the members out. Otherwise, I'm new here if that is what you mean.

Nova Condealism wrote:And you are?

That plus, you've been arguing with me for about 20 minutes now if not much longer.

Federal-Conservative Leer wrote:That plus, you've been arguing with me for about 20 minutes now if not much longer.

I've had longer.

Federal-Conservative Leer wrote:What do you mean "and you are"? I was the leader of a region called the Union of Conservatives in Opposition until a NE puppet came and used his other puppets to spam WA endorsements until he was WA Delegate and he kicked all of the members out. Otherwise, I'm new here if that is what you mean.

I was just wondering whether I've heard of you before. Doesn't seem I have.

Nova Condealism wrote:I've had longer.

I was just wondering whether I've heard of you before. Doesn't seem I have.

Alright. I was assuming you were going by the age-old he who smelt it dealt it thought process. I am sorry for seeming aggressive.

I'd be ok with displaced citizens from Ireland coming here and applying for citizenship. I don't want to risk pissing off a more organized region at this time and send our people there. We need to fully vouch for anything coming from that region at this time if we are going to allow them to be citizens as well. Check their history if it's possible. If we send people there and they find out if was from our region we will be on the list of regions next to invade.

Miencraft, New Jaslandia, Rateria, The Aradites

Libertitad wrote:I'd be ok with displaced citizens from Ireland coming here and applying for citizenship. I don't want to risk pissing off a more organized region at this time and send our people there. We need to fully vouch for anything coming from that region at this time if we are going to allow them to be citizens as well. Check their history if it's possible. If we send people there and they find out if was from our region we will be on the list of regions next to invade.

That sounds reasonable.

The map still a thing around here, or is it inactive like much else?

Hey, do we have a representative to REATO?

I have an idea. I may be back soon...

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