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Region: Libertatem
Without the people, there would be no government.
Hallo Island
Without the government, there would be happy people.
Miencraft, Pevvania, Conservative Idealism In Libertatem, Alderney And Liberty City, The United Libertarian American Republic
ORDO SEPTUM LIBERTATEM
Don't like drugs causing murder and gang violence?
Become a drug dealer and change it from the inside!
Everyone google "Thunder Over Louisville".
It is the only good thing about living here, except Rand Paul.
Neat. I see it's sponsored by Meijer I miss meijer.
From the Broke Libertarian blog:
[B]Why I will not be supporting Rand Paul for US President[/B]
Even if Rand Paul is a libertarian, the Republican Party isn't. Even if Murray Rothbard himself rose from the dead and ran for President with the Republican Party, I could not support him. This has nothing to do with how "pure" I feel he is. It has nothing to do with his chances of winning the nomination.
Without libertarians representing every single Republican seat in congress, conservatives and establishment Republicans will still hold the control. The United States' separated executive and legislative branch gives very little power to the President to legislate (if the Constitution is followed).
Liberty incarnate would need the support of an entire Party network of voters, supporters, and representatives. The Republican Party will need to be united to beat the Democrats, and Paul will not be a unifying presence. Why?
Well, take a look at how many people within the Republican Party itself speak about Rand, his father, and libertarians in general. To say that the Republican Party, despite the handful of self-identified libertarian representatives, will embrace and fully support Rand Paul and as their nominee unquestionably, and put their full effort into him and the change of policy and direction that such a nomination will require, is quite improbable, if not impossible.
It would be like our own Tim Moen running, and by some miracle, winning the leadership of the NDP. Would we all suddenly purchase NDP memberships, vote NDP, and go door knocking? Obviously not.
What made his father's Presidential run so compelling was not how remarkably and unexpectedly well he did, nor how much money he raised, nor even how many millions of young people he inspired. What made Ron Paul 2012 so remarkable was that he was not trying to win, as Rand is. He did not soften his speech or sugar coat it. He heavily criticized the Republican Party, its establishment, and its policies using plain honest speech, not campaign rhetoric or attack ads.
Ron Paul's campaign was a success because he wasn't trying to actually win the nomination, or rather, it wasn't his first goal. Ron Paul was trying to spread the message of liberty to a party and nation that desperately needs it, and managed to plant the seeds within young people everywhere. That helped the cause of liberty tremendously.
Rand, however, seems less interested in promoting liberty as he does in getting elected and winning the nomination. When he's around Republicans, he sounds like a Republican. He softens his rhetoric. My first impression of Ron Paul was of a man who looked like a neocon, who was just going to repeat the same old Bush era rhetoric. Until his mouth opened and the blunt simplicity of his message captivated me. "When I say I want to lower taxes, I don't mean fiddle with the code. I want to eliminate the IRS and replace it with nothing."
If Rand Paul said that tomorrow, his campaign would be over as fast as you could say the word "conservatarian".
Thus, we have to ask ourselves, regardless of how terrible a Hillary Clinton Presidency would be, which would be more beneficial to liberty in the long run: Helping the Libertarian Party achieve 5% of the popular vote to obtain full ballot access and inclusion in debates, or supporting a sort-of libertarian for President of a Party that mistreats libertarians, thinks of them as useful idiots, and heavily criticizes their ideas.
YOU SHUT YOOUR MOUTH!
I HATE MEIJER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why?
I work for their archnemesis.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kroger
#meijermasterrace!
#stfu #dumb #iwillmurderyouinyoursleep #kroger
This is the deciding issue of the election. Meijer vs Kroger.
Meijer for the win. Higher standards lower prices is my battlecry!
Muh Roads
Huh, never heard of Meijer in my life.
So, Kroger wins.
Hi.
Don't have Kroger out here either.
There is Cashwise or Wally world (wal-mart).
Ride Sandy into battle!
Paul Krugman is a fool, but he actually won the Nobel Prize in 2008 for good reason - his contributions to free trade advocacy. He actually does very good work on international economics.
Even Keynesian economists are sane compared to Marxshits.
Pevvania, Hallo Island, Reagan The Great
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Alderney And Liberty City
Hi, ya'll. this is Godisdead/Alchandria/about 4324 other puppets I've used. My last few attempts to return to this game were pretty unsuccessful, but I'm going to try again. I see a few people I know pretty well, and a lot of new faces/flags, so that's pretty neat. if someone could fill me in on what's been going on since I left (I know it's been a while), that'd be pretty nifty. For starters, I see that CI is president; I'm curious as to how that came about.
Pevvania, Hallo Island, Alderney And Liberty City
Well,
I left the game entirely then came back, then CI ran for President on an anti-War ticket and won by two votes, I got kicked out of the RLP and briefly left, the regional flag got changed by the same people that elected CI, CI isn't running again, Muh is almost guaranteed to win.
Hallo Island, Yrellian Confederacy
I hereby announce that I shall challenge Northern Prussia for the Seat 5 RLP nomination, in this coming election.
Humpheria In Libertatem
*applause*
Pev I really support your idea of a board election every 2 months instead of every single month.
I support a 2 month term as well.
I hereby propose Article XIV - Second Amendment to the TERM Amendment.
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_new_united_states/detail=factbook/id=405908
How does citizenship work here again? Like, can I vote?
Love it! We can vote on this immediately.
Does anyone have any objections?
Hi Midland. If you've resided here for 10 days or more, you are a citizen. Read more under the 'citizenship' part of the world factbook entry.
Then what did I just fill out an application for? :/
Oh, never mind actually. As long as you've been here 10 days or more you're eligible to apply.
Now I feel stupid. I've been here about 12 hours and already applied. I guess it doesn't matter that I've been here before?
Oh, I just realised, you're Alchandria. Hi! Glad to have you back!
Unfortunately, current rules mean you must wait ten days before applying. However, the Board can fast-track your application. I'll call a Board vote on the matter now.
Neat!
Anyone want some brain damage? http://www.salon.com/2014/04/19/reaganomics_killed_americas_middle_class_partner/
I see [region=Hallo Island] is trying to destroy the region over a stupid flag. I prefer the new flag, but it's purely a cosmetic part of our region.
He sent the message before I arranged for the flag to be changed.
everybody switch to dark-rift for maximum cosmetic awesomeness
Miencraft, Alderney And Liberty City
It's not the first time people have tried to ignite riots over something trivial (though, honestly, yeah, the flag is pretty important and I think the old one looked better), and it won't be the last.
Alderney And Liberty City
The flag isn't right.
Regional flags always look weird when they get compressed to that small a size.
Scaled the snake up as much as possible. It's fine.
ANYWAY
Which color is your favorite toothpaste?
You did. But it's an easy fix if you want to edit it to add a more detailed snake.
True. I'll try sharpening the snake a bit. I also want to add, in the snake itself, the amagi symbol. "Back to the mother." It's really interesting, as it is said to be the first symbol of liberty ever.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ama-gi
Alderney And Liberty City
I thought I was the only jerk here that thought this flag simply didn't look as cosmetically appealing as the old one. The dull yellow does not blend with the soft blue at all.
Pev said it was too gaudy before.
Can't please anyone I guess.
Really wish the three minor parties (Green, Constitution, Libertarian) were included in the Presidential debates. It would raise awareness for them, as many Americans are unaware of their existence.
Republic Of Minerva, Hallo Island
Why was this Board election two days instead of one?
Miss the old one already
The snake is asymmetrical and also a little off-center and that bothers me deeply as well.
You know what would have worked well as a new flag? That blue version of Lib's flag I tossed up into the last flag nonsense doohickey.
The snake is dead center. Only the tail is offset, as if I shifted the tail over, I'd have to shift the body right
waa waa complain waa. I'll improve it slightly and then shuddup pls
Make us. We don't like it. It looks like sub-par artistic work. Sorry for being honest.
You guys complained when there were no elections and no flag change, and now you guys are complaining because the elections are two days long and the flag doesn't look quite right. Geez, people, come on.
Alderney And Liberty City
I didn't complain about the elections and flag change. You're generalizing.
Okay how's about this:
http://oi61.tinypic.com/2b5wsm.jpg
Doesn't look good up front, but it should be better at a distance. Namely, it should be slightly brighter and a lot sharper.
It's about making a flag that we can use for a very long time and that will pass the test of time. Constructive criticism is vital to achieve this.
Have we lost sight of what this region was built on? I realize that over time things change, but the Libertatem I'm seeing is clearly less interested in combating authoritarianism and more interested in establishing a carbon-copy of every other libertarian government ever. This is not what we were founded on my friends, we need to reestablish that ever burning lust in our hearts, to defeat the tyrannical ones and establish liberty across nationstates.
Since I've arrived on Libertatem, I have had the pleasure to meet many great men and women who shared a single objective, defeating communism. Recently however this has not been the case, we have torn apart, taking sides on the smallest of issues, and creating personal vendettas against one another.
Libertatem, I have a goal. A goal that can only be met with your assistance. I seek to reunify the region in the fight against tyranny. I have a few plans that I will be releasing on my Factbook soon. Here's a sneak peak of the ideas to come.
Muh Roads' *MILITARY FIRST PLAN*
- Recruit, recruit, recruit. This is the only way we are going to get more soliders ready for war.
- Restructure. I feel a few revisions are necessary to the current acts affecting the Libertatem military.
- Communication. I will be working directly with my chosen Manager of Military Affairs and every single individual of the Libertatem military to seek opinions for improvement. On top of this, I will be encouraging synergy between every member of the Libertatem military.
Vote Muh Roads for President of Libertatem.
Miencraft, Royal Johnstone, The New United States, Northern Prussia, Midland County
*applause*
"Whatever my equivalent of sploosh is. Which I guess would just be sploosh."-Ray Gillette, Archer
Get out in the field first and then I'll support you.
Your joking right? I've participated in countless operations. Sans the last couple recent ones. I have been training for work.
I thought you were running for presidency Minerva?
Muh Roads! Muh Roads! Muh Roads!
Yeah, we gonna fight dem commies again... yay... Seriously.
I SAID GET BACK OUT IN THE FIELD, SOLDIER. 1234 HUT
Hallo Island
Alchandria/Midland County Citizen Restoration Vote
Pevvania AYE
Hallo Island ABSTAIN
Northern Prussia NAY
Right-Winged Nation AYE
2 ayes, 1 nay and 1 abstention... I'm not sure if this is enough to finalise the vote.
You could hold the vote until the vacant seat is filled, votes aren't supposed to be called with only 4 present anyway.
Sir, under my Presidency he was a sergeant in the Active Corps. He served honorably on multiple missions including the TFI liberation, of which he was the commanding officer. He was honorably discharged when he CTE'd.
After the recent administration, this region's neglected military needs a soldier in command like Muh. This region as a whole needs a patriot like Muh.
Miencraft, Pevvania
The Commonwealth of Free Nations wishes to express that it is in favor of the new regional flag.
It now flies over the Libertatem embassy and our region is pleased.
Republic Of Minerva, Hallo Island
I'm looking into becoming a notary public. I think it would be fun. Thoughts?
Nevermind that, I would like to ask the Commander and Adjutant what positions are filled pursuant to the GMR?
I only ask as that is the law of the region and I have not seen anything on it.
Before the end of my term I will propose an new amendment to the constitution, replacing article VIII, to introduce the non-agression principle.
Hallo Island
Good luck. But I will remind you, that you cannot, as Attorney General, advocate against any part of the Constitution.
It is your job to interpret the Constitution, so on Constitutional matters you must remain neutral. You can personally have an opinion but you cannot officially have a stance. This was set in precedent when TTA was AG and it was decided that the AG must remain neutral so that there is an objective party.
Muh Roads
Finally a true Libertarian. don't hurt me RLP!
Hallo Island
Hi guys !!! How's it going
You will learn of our peaceful ways, by force!
Hallo Island
RLP Tyranny!
Hallo Island
Apparently they haven't read to know that they are these people, so the Commander is CI and the Adjutant is Minerva.
So, I'm still waiting.
You want to ask us about the what?
I don't understand your choice of words.
What positions are currently being filled in the military pursuant to the GMR?
Mr. President, when will the presidential election be held? It has to be by the 28th at the latest.
And the Board elections that have to be done by then.
Classroom Socialism
An economics professor at Texas Tech said he had never failed a single student before but had, once, failed an entire class. The class had insisted that socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer. The professor then said ok, we will have an experiment in this class on socialism. All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade so no one would fail and no one would receive an A.
After the first test the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. But, as the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too; so they studied little ...
The second Test average was a D! No one was happy. When the 3rd test rolled around the average was an F. The scores never increased as bickering, blame, name calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for anyone else. All failed to their great surprise and the professor told them that socialism would ultimately fail because the harder to succeed the greater the reward but when a government takes all the reward away; no one will try or succeed.
Miencraft, Pevvania, Muh Roads, Yrellian Confederacy, The Aradites, The United Libertarian American Republic
An animated version of what hump said
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCg9E0Pxu80
Love it. To bad Reagan left us, he was a wise man.
Reagan was a big government neo-con! Less government is bad unless it's gotten rid of entirely! *nods*
lol, Reagan negotiated with the Soviet Union. He did not just go for constant war like neo-cons.
Pevvania
I know, I was mocking the purists. Reagan avoided war and hated the neo-cons in his party.
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I have questions then. Why does the Reagan Libertarian Party promote endless war with Totalitarians? Why does it not promote avoiding war and negotiation? Shouldn't the RLP promote declaring war against individual Totalitarian regions who refuse to negotiate and not every totalitarian region?
We don't. Our war is purely defensive. If we invaded all communist regions we would have launched attacks on Juche Union, UCR and The Communist Bloc long ago. The RLP war policy is peace through strength, and trust but verify. We confront those who lay waste to other regions, and seek to build friendships with those who do not. There is no point in negotiating with the Stalinists, because doing so would not lead to an end of the war, but merely concessions on our part.
Defensive war is perfectly consistent with libertarianism.
So why not rename the war? The War of Totalitarian aggression? I think that a war under that name would bring more regions to your cause. Peaceful left wing regions along with right wing regions.
Most alternatives to the moniker 'War on Communism' sound either deliberately politically correct or not as cool. War on Totalitarian Aggression is not very cool.
Thank you for answering my questions Mr.Chairman.
I congratulate Humpalitous on his victory in this election.
Thank you, sir.
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