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So, guys, what are you going to do this weekend?

Personally, I'm going to the countryside to pick up my Mercedes from the winter storage. I also have to study for an exam in the Icelandic sagas.

I'm probably going to play some CoD.

I'm gonna go drive around with my Anarchist group. I have a Honda CRX. Custom!

Damn, I need to establish an anarchist group to ride around with. I'm more for German cars, though.

I like German American and a little Japanese I guess.

My plans for the weekend? Probably just hitting the stables.

My plans include 48 hours of sleep, and then waking up and going to work. That's about it.

Meincraft - What type of a job do you have? Just curious.

You work Minecraft?

Reaffirming: the troll that left had a mistaken view of liberty. Pure Democracy is simply a form of collectivism. Our semi democratic government is the best way to ensure liberty. We guarantee certain rights, which makes us a free region.

Elections give power to the mob, not to the individual. The U.S. is a prime example of too many popular votes and not enough actual representation.

DAMN, MY ECONOMY IS BACK IN THE GAME! (91/100)

Who has Facebook?

I don't have much use for social networks.

I just messed around with my options, viewed my page, and caught this humorous little tidbit out of the corner of my eye:

Conservative Idealism's national animal is the darn paperwork, which teeters on the brink of extinction due to widespread deforestation

Lol it all makes sense now

To get some more activity going through the region, I've drafted another constitutional amendment. If anyone has any suggestions to improve it, I can accommodate them. Otherwise, I'll soon see if I can get this in process.

Also, I think Einsiev wants his position back.

It would be nice to have it back.

Speaking of representation, we don't have any influential WA nations outside our government. At all. No one. That's part of the reason I'm trying to get rid of the Vice WA position in the new amendment I wrote - we need a smaller government that represents the people better.

^ I meant "going back to what I said earlier", not "speaking of representation". :P

Reading the RMB in forum view is simply incredible - very historic. I arrive on the scene in page 8 XD

Wow. The FFS is beyond horrible. I was in the IRU before it collapsed. I see their uprising was a one like Orwell's Napoleon. He became the monster.

FFS is arrogant. They despise our system of government as well.

Fellow nations of Libertatem, hello.

Hello friends I have come here under the invitation of my friend http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_new_sea_territory

Change you flag, Confederate People. The usual Dixie Stars and Bars should be fine.

Nice of you to join us, guys.

I'm placing the proposed FAIR Amendment in process - it will be voted on whenever Liberosia is ready to initiate it.

I meant FREE Act - Proposed Amendment II. It reads as follows:

FREE Act

Fair Removal of Extraneous Expressions Act

Proposed Constitutional Amendment II

Section I

Purpose

Clarification of this proposal's purpose:

Subsection I

To eliminate the position of Vice WA Delegate in order to streamline government efficiency.

Subsection II

To remove overly wordy clauses from the constitution.

Subsection III

To remove potential loopholes from the constitution.

Section II

Modifications to Government Positions

Subsection I

The Vice WA Delegate position will be discontinued.

Subsection II

The sole ability of the position - to break ties - will be reassigned to the WA Delegate.

Section III

Modifications to Constitutional Wording

- Constitution A1S1SS7 will change the wording "Board Member shall be granted" to "Board Member may be granted".

- Constitution A1S2SS3 will remove the wording "or Vice WA Delegate".

- Constitution A2S1SS1 will remove the wording "the Vice WA Delegate,".

- Constitution A2S1SS4 will be removed (and the subsections preceding bumped up by one).

- Constitution A4S1SS2 will change the wording ", the WA Delegate, and the Vice WA Delegate" to ", and the WA Delegate".

- Constitution A7S1SS1 will change the wording "respecting an establishment" to "enforcing an establishment" in order to permit government officials to express their religious views.

- Constitution A7S1SS3 will remove the wording "by Internal Affairs" to avoid exploitation by other government officials.

Welcome, NST, People of the United States and Rebelland.

Liberosia's addition to the constitution was ratified pretty quickly. (Then again, he did run it by the rest of the government, effectively fulfilling the 2 of 3 necessary criteria.)

I'll just wait until voting on the FREE Amendment begins.

Welcome to Libertatem, people who came in just now.

In other news, AoE2 HD is great.

Thanks for the welcoming. Much better than the FFS already.

I will be transferring my conquered regions into the Empire soon. Check my factbook for the list.

I will be transferring nothing seeing as how my old region gave me no chance to do anything as some of my friends are aware of (New Sea).

It's funny because FFS already stands for something. (I won't say what, considering it's not appropriate.)

That's a lot of conquered regions

Thank you. I had a long tour of duty in my Nazi Roleplay days.

So they will be transfered to my private command, but will be considered part of the Libertatem Empire. All my further conquests will be given to Libertatem completely.

I would like to congratulate my friend seeing as how we had 80 some odd number nations in our region at one point and he did 80 percent of the raiding/conquering regions. I did about .5%

Your conquests rival (nay, far surpass) our empire's. We have much to learn.

We have some pending invitations.

Thanks to the addition of new communist territory, but more largely the addition of 27 new conquered regions by [nation=short]The New Sea Territory[/nation], our Empire's population has vaulted to the highest it has ever been.

Population (excluding the representative region): 140

Libertatem

-[nation]Liberosia[/nation] - Emperor

Atlantic Docks

-[nation]Resident Idealist[/nation]

Imperial Democratic States

-[nation]Zakastibad[/nation]

The United Corporate States

-[nation]Braucorp[/nation]

The Alliance Of Central Europe

-[nation]The Alliance of Central Europe[/nation]

The United Confederation Of 9

-[nation]Objective Persons Representative[/nation] - [nation]Objective Persons[/nation]

Mid Pacific

-[nation]Kentuck[/nation]

Kingdoms Of Prussia

-[nation]Envoy of Prussia[/nation]

Territorian Republican Armed Forces

-[nation]The New Sea Territory[/nation]

***Annexed Territory***

Communist Asylum

The Real Communist Region

Revolutionary Committee Of Slavia

The Socialist Region

Communists Against Capitalism

Regions Conquered by our esteemed member [nation]The New Sea Territory[/nation]

I'd just like to say, I am so proud and thankful for all of you. A special thanks to The New Sea Territory, for his generous contribution.

I am not joking or saying BS, I really appreciate everyone in the region. Good work.

Hooray! Long live the Empire!

Let Freedom Ring, and Sic Semper Tyrannis!

I request to be under New Sea Territory's Military command. That is how it used to be.

He was my "Obershutze" for a time, or senior rifleman. I was a Obergefreiter (Corporal).

We've got some experience raiding, and I have a friend or two I can pull into here.

Yes, may we invade commies please please please please!?!?!?!

We're not stopping you, go ahead.

I just arrived here, however, I am seeking the position of Manager of Military affairs.

Send me a telegram, Rebelland, and explain what you have got for the job.

I would also like to apply for Manager of Military Affairs.

I'll TG your my 'resume'...

I will vouch for my friend being the Manager of Military Affairs seeing as how he has captured these many regions for our cause.

With all due respect to United States and the NST: We have to keep in mind he didn't capture them at all for "your cause." He offered them to the FFS before he even arrived here. He captured them because he was role playing as a fascist.......

Well, It's just they were the NSL's and I had the puppet accounts with me, so I stole them from the NSL. I just want to give them to a region. There's no point in me having them myself.

When the Fascist catch up to you they will take their revenge from you or who has them.

Just a thought .

Everyone wants the manager position now lol

I have decided to leave the manager of military affairs position vacant for now. The reason is that the contenders for it are relatively new in this region and have yet to prove them selves.

I think he has proven himself. He is capable of doing this VERY well.

I offered along time ago to be the military affairs manager.

He has proven himself though. There are equal propositions. I am supporting my friend because he is my friend I have nothing against you. I KNOW he is effective in battle and WILL get the job done effectively.

Half the nations I see are socialists. Odd for a region waging war on communism.

Today, we mourn. Margaret Thatcher has passed away. One of the best politicians of the 20th century and a person whom I personally admire, despite all odds. She was true iron.

RIP Iron Lady.

I agree with Towlensk, but the question my friend is: Are their NS nations Socialist because of the stupid decision making tree going insane or are they. That's the question. I've been everything from a Dictatorship to a New York Times democracy, and I still think Anarchy, in the game, is the best representation of true Libertarian beliefs. So, the question is, are they socialists who need to be hung, or is it NS being a douche?

It troubles me that there are a number of nations here with socialist/communist sympathies here. (Luckily some of them ceased to exist, and the rest don't participate much in regional affairs.) I think it would be in the region's best interests to eject them.

I've completed part of a dossier of such suspicious nations. If either Snabagag or Liberosia will act on this I will quickly finish it up and offer it to them.

NO, never eject people unless they are a threat! That was the downfall of my old region so it is a BIG no-no. Those people tell their friend with the right ideologies to join and that furthers the region not ban-jecting the random by-passer.

I'm not saying we should ban ANY of them or even eject a nation that merely appears socialist. It is, however, a bad idea to provide for those who expect equal provisions for everyone, and we must take some action somehow.

Ok... see! We find compromises while the commies use their .0000003% each of a brain to find the WRONG solution.

True enough.

As such, it's vitally important that there are no commies in this region, which is why I have to compile information on potential threats.

Yes.. as such is your job. Well carry on I do not want to keep you from your work. I would like to give you some experience from my old region is that do not kick anyone out unless they are

1. A direct threat (if not a real threat keep them so we can make fun of them)

2. Extremely inactive to the point of no return

3. Openly against the ideals of the nation or are plotting a rebellion openly (ties with no. 1)

Those are good rules to follow if the WA is able to ban-ject regions... this will allow people to not be frightened to enter and will make people want to stay.

GLAD TO HELP

In truth, the nations we need to eject break all three of those rules. It would simply be best to eject them...and if it's a misunderstanding, they can always return.

I have always admired Margaret Thatcher. I am sad to hear she passed away.

It is sad news indeed. My sincerest condolences go out to her family, friends, and colleagues.

Here's my problem with bans: How can we fight big government abroad while promoting it at home? Liberty is available to all people, even communists. It's just our responsibility to make sure communists never seize power. They have the right to be here.

Rest in peace, Margaret Thatcher. A great person. Fought the Soviets; just like Reagan.

Always let Freedom Ring.

We should only ban militaristic threats. If we have info that suggests they are spies/agents, ban immediately. But these are just simple inactives.

We're not banning anyone. Hopefully.

We should however, eject inactive nations, nations with heavy socialist sympathies, and potential spies. Especially if the nations on question are all three.

Yes, if small threats we do need some sport so we can argue (and win) with them.

Forget it, we're probably not getting an argument out of any of them. They're not very active, remember?

Ok. I just got on the "Capitalists, your opinion of socialism" thread. I'd like to send this out as justification of my ideals and anti-leftism.

http://cyber.eserver.org/unabom.txt

Skip to the "Modern Leftism" section for the point.

I think these socialist nations bring about their own demise anyway. Socialism/communism is not sustainable.

Well, duh. How can institutionalized, over-socialized theft sustain? It will run out of other people's money!

Margaret Thatcher, my prayers go out to her and her family.

Did anyone else see the movie made about her? The Iron Lady?

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So how are we going to decide who gets the honorable position of Manager of Military Affairs?

I propose a challenge. The one who has newly conquered the most number of regions in a 7-14 day period wins, with runners up receiving powerful military ranks under the winning nation. Of course, this is not prescribed in the constitution but it may allow for vetting of capabilities. Thoughts?

Um I think we need to get a second opinion on that. Not a BAD idea but not the best. There are too many variable's so it would not work efficiently.

Yes - we *definitely* need a second opinion on the proposal. Any critiques/suggestions/improvements are not only welcome, but requested. If it is a good idea it will stand, and if it lacks merit (which is always a possibility), then we will find a better solution. Again, open and constructive discussion is requested here. Much of the discussion around this will be educational for me, and possibly others here.

I have an idea. Give the Military Affairs position to Einsiev (trust me on this) and give NST the Vice Delegate position (someone needs to endorse him). That way, all government vacancies will be filled with people well-suited for the positions and everyone wins.

NO! I think the WA nations should vote here seeing as how the WA members are the most active. The non-WA members who want to vote this would be a good opportunity to become WA. This is the best way to do it voting off of who thinks it should go to.

The WA nations aren't going to do squat. No one but Snabagag has been endorsed in over two weeks.

Anyway, a vote is unconstitutional (especially if it is a WA vote - all non-government votes that take place must not exclude any resident of Libertatem from the process). The founder and delegate must pick appointments.

Ok, see someone must tell the new people these things. I think that we have no say in the matter then.

Ah, but here's where your say does come in - you can persuade either Liberosia or Snabagag to choose one way or another. After all, they're keen on keeping their power in check.

Well then all should vote who wants to on a certain date (yet to be determined) then. The WA and Founder also tally the votes then they vote and theirs account for 5 votes. We send in our ballots thru TG.

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