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Region: Libertatem
The United States Of Patriots, Fascist Dred
Reminder to vote for me if you want absolutely nothing to get done.
https://www.nationstates.net/region=libertatem/page=display_region_rmb?postid=26093437#p26093437
I am proud to to support the JURIES Act and look forward to signing it into law!
Miencraft, Pevvania, Libiceland
Oh, I wasn't there for that
Someday we will all be islammunists, whether we're islammunist or not
If you liked the Miencraftic presidencies, you're going to love Shira.
Toxic masculinity is just a way for feminism to take issues that harm men and turn them into a reason to support a movement that harms men.
Libiceland
Don't provide any service to communists, they won't pay you
I think there are a lot of instances where 'toxic masculinity' does indeed exist and should be confronted, but yeah, they're exploiting this issue just to score points. Sick!
At least it isn't as abhorrent a concept as non-contact rape.
Looking forward to hearing from the Reform Party on the RLP's invitation to join our coalition. JOBS, JOBS, JOBS!
People who pretend this is a real thing demean actual rape survivors and their experiences. It's as sickening as their obsession with self diagnoses.
Miencraft, Rateria, Libiceland, Jadentopian Order
but muh photorape
Wowzers my brand new racist sitcom character who is depicted as the villainous next-door neighbor to a gender-nonconforming homosexual woman of color. He says things like:
"Ugh, more black crime? Just shows how violent they are."
"Islam is a violent religion and they should stay far away from this country."
"Looking back, the KKK hasn't really done anything wrong recently. I'd rather have them then whatever the hell you're a part of." (Said to main character)
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The "JURIES" bill is nothing but an attempt by Pevvania to secure more votes for the presidential elections. Let's just take a look at Section III. "In extraordinary cases, such as lack of available jurors or an extremely sensitive matter of regional security, the Regional Justice may waive the defendant's right to trial by jury." And remember, Pev and his mates in the RLP think that taking a screenshot of a 10 day old operation with codenames on a minor region is a matter of regional security. It was such a big matter that they suspended Auxorii's citizenship for it. They abused that section of the FRAUD act and they are going to abuse this one. I urge the senators to vote nay so that we can write a new bill, a bill that is real. We in the Reform Party are happy to cooperate, but this bill is fake. If you are interested in getting something done in this region join the Reform Party
Pulceria
Office of the Sitting Chair
Chancellor of State Hyderbourg
I, Hyderbourg, sitting Chair of the Reformation Party, after discussing with various members of our party as well as our true Chair, Auxorii, have a request to make of the Honorable Senator Pevvania. You have stated the importance of nonpartisanship, and we echo this sentiment. Before we can begin discussions of a coalition, you must prove that you and your party are willing to work with us to truly fix the problems evident in this region. I, with this sentiment, have a request to make of you, Speaker. The Reform Party formally asks that the Speaker delay all senate activity until the 4th Senatorial Seat is filled. As a party that embodies the ideal of true representation, we cannot acknowledge senate activity that occurs while only four-fifths of the region has a say. Although a fifth senator may not change the outcome of any vote, he is important in the fact that he is another voice of the people of Libertatem and the senate should not be able to proceed without him.
Libiceland
The Senate stands on precedence and rules and while I appreciate and acknowledge the sentiment of Hyderbourg the procedure of the body allows for continuity so long as a quorum of sitting Senators is present. Precedent holds that the Senate does not cease operation because of the absence of one Senator. There are several examples of this. Again, I'm happy to work with the Reform Party and I came to you about a coalition. The Senate has business to attend to so it's quite obvious you're playing politics attempting to put Senate business on hold.
"I love the JURIES act by the way" - LibIceland, this morning before his overlords told him to oppose it.
Miencraft, Fascist Dred, Jadentopian Order, Pulceria
Love love love the flag. Thank you President [nation=short]Humpheria[/nation]!
Rateria, Jadentopian Order
It was in my collection! It's technically my flag!
But I still don't remember where I got it from. But I guess that means it's free game by now since wherever I got it however long ago isn't going to care.
Pevvania
When saying that, it was before the bill had been fully discussed and the Speaker is taking it out of context. I loved the idea of cooperation between the Reform Party and the RLP, as well as judicial reform. I am not going to resort to ad hominem like Pev, however, the Reform Party is very active in practicing what they preach, and we have had many hearings on the bill and talked about if it is something that we want to support. What we have found is the same as the system already is, and it doesn't change a lot. The JURIES bill would give the regional justice the right to bypass the jury and make their own punishment, making the jury pointless. Senators, please vote NO on JURIES. It will not do judicial reform, it is simply a bill the establishment has drew up in order appease, but it doesn't change anything and is filled with loopholes in order to keep their power on the judicial system.
Letter from the Chairman of the Reform Party concerning the new judicial reform bill proposed to the Senate
"The JURIES bill is more of the same- the establishment has wrote it in order to appease our movement, but it won't work. The JURIES bill keeps the regional justice the only one who has power in the judicial system. We must fight for REAL change. Oppose the JURIES bill!
Chairman,
Aux"
I'm going to talk directly to Aux since I know he's reading this RMB:
You are banished, Auxorii. That means you can't do anything in this region at all. Don't send people to speak on your behalf. Wait out your banishment or go talk to the Senate to get it appealed. You are not above the law.
Fascist Dred, Jadentopian Order
"Good lapdog, good boy"
Fascist Dred, Jadentopian Order
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That seems unnecessary.
We in the Reform Party want to change things in the region, and we don't engage in ad hominem attacks, that's counterproductive. One of the reasons why the Reform Party isn't interested in a coalition (which we originally were, we created a whole channel for it) is because the RLP will resort to attacks on our bills, ideas and candidates. And I don't know how this works in the RLP, but here in the Reform Party everyone is active and bringing something to the table
Reaganist Libertarian Party
I am joining the RLP.
I am also running as their candidate for this upcoming special election since nobody else will.
Down with Vista and the CoFN, all they do is suck us dry.
Vote Reaganist!
Libiceland
Office of the Sitting Chair of the Reform Party
Chancellor of State Hyderbourg
The Confederacy is our sister region and must be treated as such, there is a mutual respect between our regions that cannot be breached by you, nor the Reaganist Libertarian Party.
A vote for [nation=short]Supting[/nation] is a vote for somebody who insulted the leaders of the Confederacy during negotiations whereas a vote for the Reformist, [nation=short]Sidon and Bosanova[/nation], is a vote for one of their most respected leaders and highlights the truly special relationship that our regions share.
We need to show respect for our allies, we need to show respect for our peers, we need to show respect for Reform.
Libiceland
Of course you are attracted to the RLP. There you will be able to engage in personal attacks because, you know, that's what the RLP does when it doesn't have any good arguments
So yeah. Uh a few things.
1. No you're not
2. No you're not
Have a nice day!
Pevvania, Rateria, Libiceland
I mean, he's right in that he's running, but definitely not for the RLP since you have to actually go sign up for it first.
Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Libiceland, Jadentopian Order
If Supting wants to run for the Senate, he can do so as a private citizen.
Great statement. Unfortunately, I'm sure to your frustration, Supting is not welcome in the RLP, is not our candidate, and your attempt to use your real life friend to discredit the opposing party isn't fooling anyone. Thanks though!
Miencraft, Pevvania, Rateria
No you don't?
It's an open party, when I first joined the region I asked Pevv how to join and he responded, "just say you're in the RLP and you are."
Yes he can! Though him running as an independent kind of defeats the purpose doesn't it?
Well, you can still get kicked out, and since you did get kicked out you specifically would need to get permission to get back in.
Pulceria
There 12,000 students at my school, but that's cool, they're all my friends.
In fact, the ones who sabotaged my presidency are especially my friends.
Libiceland
Party rules established at its conception allow for the Chairman to refuse entry to anyone for any reason. If for no other reason, its a private entity and its leadership has the right to discriminate. Sorry bud, it was a lapse of judgement for whoever came up with the idea. But good luck on your independent campaign!
lmao you got flamed Hyderbourg
Humpheria
whatever, I won independently before, I'll do it again.
also some guy just told me I could be in the rlp so idk what's up
You talk to him on Facebook and you had a full statement prepared condemning the entire RLP for Supting's previous actions within a matter of minutes. Surely just a coincidence though, hmm?
You know its interesting that the RLP, the party which has sought to form two coalitions on two separate occasions, is the evil and corrupt party when it seems that every day since its inception, the Reform Party has deployed a different political maneuver presumably conceived in secret channels by a leader that has been banned for high crimes. Hardly acting as the voice of the people, in my private opinion.
Miencraft, Pevvania, Rateria
My vote is for supting
I have him on Facebook, if anything this in itself is a political scheme.
You could have easily said he wasn't in the party and agreed with my statement, but you had to bring up our relationship in real life.
That seems almost as unnesecary as your presidential candidate calling one of our members a dog.
Libiceland
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Was said person the party's Chair?
Hyderbourg dude you're getting roasted hahahaha.
Pevvania
also he's really skinny
who
The leader of the party - in the RLP's case, Humpheria.
Rateria
can we please all just stop replying to Supting, he'll just keep going.
Libiceland, Jadentopian Order
Aux, the chairman of the Reform Party claimed that party pressure is bad and that he wants to remove it, but now Senator Venom almost immediately left the Party due to the extreme amount of pressure placed on him. Even LibIceland was intimidated into opposing the JURIES act! Aux is puppeteering them into following his orders while he's banished. Perhaps one month wasn't enough...
Humpheria, Venomringo
That's actually a really good deflection, I'm honestly impressed with that. However, the truth of the matter is that anyone objectively looking at was just happened makes it pretty clear that that was orchestrated by someone. Who would it be? But if you claim that your party didn't attempt to manipulate the election by asking an absolutely unelectable individual to randomly join your opposing party and in the same breath coincidentally announce he's running for the Seat after days of inactivity than I think thats really up to the citizens to decide.
But it doesn't look good, bud.
Pevvania
That deflection wasn't as good as Hyder's. You guys should do a better job of coordinating messaging. It looks better that way.
That would be convenient wouldn't it? He's prone to talking too much, sure. Wouldn't want him to let something slip now.
I don't know if he's been inactive for days or not, but I do know he's a troll and he joined the RLP the last time he was on the Discord if I recall correctly, so he might just be carrying that out?
I wasn't intimidated at all. I looked at both sides and decided that I opposed the JURIES act
Indeed.
This is a formal warning to Auxorii and the other members of the Reform Party.
Auxorii: If you continue to try to speak through your friends or manipulate anything in this region in any way, your ban will be upgraded to permanent and you will have no chance to appeal.
The rest: If it reaches that point, you will have committed a crime in assisting Auxorii in circumventing his ban.
Jadentopian Order
Interesting point...
You can't do that! You already agreed to the sentence
You should probably stop digging man
Are you familiar with the crime of parole violation?
Attempting to circumvent his ban is a crime. He, and anyone who helps him, will be punished to the full extent of the law if it continues.
Fascist Dred, Jadentopian Order
He has been trolling us repeatedly, stop with these insane conspiracy theories
He's violating parole basically.
Aaaaaand Mein got to it first.
Show us the evidence then
I agree, but his sentence is still correct, if anything, if he continues circumventing the law then he should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.
Miencraft
Although you may not call it a strong deflect, Lib is right in pointing out your party's desperation.
You can't find a body that will even run for this senatorial election and you're dying in the polls, I'm sorry that you guys are resorting to the attacks that you are.
Also a majority of your cabinet belongs to the Reform Party even though it was so recently formulated, so I don't think we have a coordination problem.
Libiceland
Conveniently, I have this quote where you spoke for him.
Jadentopian Order
One of you guys literally posted his message to us.
That was before the warning
Once again, I got to it first!
I guess it being before the warning means it's not as illegal? Please. Auxorii is banned. Even before the warning, speaking for him is a crime. If it happens again, I will make good on my promise.
Jadentopian Order
And who said anyone was speaking for Aux. everything I say is for myself. Plus since when was it illegal to consult friends.
Libiceland
I see you didn't notice that quote from Lib where he was literally speaking for Aux.
Jadentopian Order
He posted Aux's direct words to us. That is not consulting.
Miencraft
GOD DAMN IT
That's, what, the fifth time in the past five minutes or so?
Rateria, Jadentopian Order
Uhhhhh I'm running under FLC/ACA and so is Vemom, who, may I remind you, left your party because of the pressure.
I meant the special election buddy, calm down.
Of course you guys are running for your normal seats, but your membership isn't growing, that's why you can't produce a candidate.
The Reform Party is full of hypocrites. Just during the Senate elections, Auxorii screamed "RLP party pressure" and that is exactly what I have found in the Reform Party - pressure. I was almost harassed into voting for Hyderbourg because I wanted to vote for Pevvania, but I refused to succumb to voting for a candidate that supported the harassment of our current President Humpheria. Character is what matters when we vote for who we want to represent our region and Pev has that character. In light of Auxorii circumventing his punishment, I fully support another investigation and indictment into Auxorii and his party.
Pevvania, Humpheria, The United States Of Patriots
"WE HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR BUT FEAR ITSELF"[/I] Oh, Wait! I just spoke for someone else who isn't part of Our region currently. I guess you'll have to banish him and me. :)
See how wrong that sounds.
Why can't we quote other people?
Libiceland
Wanna tell the crowd why we're having this special election?
Humpheria, Venomringo
FDR wasn't legally punished in our region.
The United States Of Patriots
There's a difference between speaking on someone's behalf and quoting them.
The difference is especially apparent when the person on whose behalf you're speaking is banned from the region and not allowed to take part in it.
When Auxorii sends people to the RMB to say something, he's circumventing his ban. The people who speak on his behalf are helping him do so. He has this one chance to stop doing that. Everyone helping him has one chance to stop helping.
1.) FDR isn't banned
2.) Aux sent us a direct message through someone else. FDR isn't talking to us.
Miencraft
I don't see how that changes things. After all Aux hasn't been proven guilty yet.
Libiceland
I'm done with this conversation.
You guys have the rhetoric, but look at the polls, we have the votes.
See you at the special elections.
Humpheria, Libiceland
Uh, he took a plea deal and accepted a punishment of one month banishment. Banishment means you're not allowed to participate in the region at all.
That includes telling other people to say things on your behalf.
He took the punishment by pleading no contest. He has to follow that punishment.
Venomringo
P.S. I was just joking
Hey I got a secret for you man: we didn't ask for people to run because you're party is already so disadvantaged legislatively. My cabinet is bipartisan because the RLP cares about its promise to promote bipartisanship and cooperation.
Sorry if I'm not helping your narrative 😞
Just accept that I'm Sonic the Hedgehog but wearing judge's robes.
Rateria, Jadentopian Order
>say something dumb
>get called out on it
>just a prank bro
Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Venomringo, Fascist Dred, Jadentopian Order
Sure.
Wait a second he took punishment because he pleaded Not Guilty? That's just messed up.
"No contest" is not "not guilty". "No contest" isn't "Guilty" either. It's "I don't want to deal with taking this to court so let's just take the punishment and get it over with."
Libiceland
Hahah welcome!
Pulceria
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