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Pax Osca wrote:They promote productivity and obedience, allowing for rapid militarization of a nation in the case of war :3

In an authoritarian communist society, they dissuade slackers, enforce the demands to work with community and allow you to reduce quality of life for the general person without much retribution.

In most countries the education system is a form of 2+2=5. I've seen more than my fair share of crazy patriotic people, and they all have unwavering beliefs in things that 9/10 just aren't true...

Are you a Libertarian? Because for one you just gave me an awesome argument for Orwellian Politics.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:This isn't Quebec or France, this is 'Tatem.

http://searchingforsuperwomen.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/WW-Goddamn-Right.gif

Translation of Conversation:

H: Do you insult my family?

P: No your family, just you.

H: How dare you, you communist pig w***e

P: I am not a communist, capitalist piece of s***

H: You are more of a communist than Stalin himself. I suggest you maintain sexual relations with yourself, sir.

H: No response, imbecile?

Albenia wrote:Are you a Libertarian? Because for one you just gave me an awesome argument for Orwellian Politics.

what does someone have to be a libertarian to understand the state's prerogative

I can source the rest of my claims at will, by the way.

Speaking of Quebec, I shall be going to Montreal to see the formula one races. Hope to have a great time. :D

Lack There Of wrote:what does someone have to be a libertarian to understand the state's prerogative

You don't. A fascist understands it better.

I am not a big fan of Quebec. Dirty and mean people. Southern France was much better.

Humpheria wrote:I am not a big fan of Quebec. Dirty and mean people. Southern France was much better.

I like their steaks.

So I am making a new Party in CFN based of one of my favorite political parties from one of my favorite books..

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_time_alliance/detail=factbook/id=262206

Albenia wrote:So I am making a new Party in CFN based of one of my favorite political parties from one of my favorite books..

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_time_alliance/detail=factbook/id=262206

Why do I care?

Humpheria wrote:Why do I care?

you took the words right out of my mouth

Albenia wrote:Are you a Libertarian? Because for one you just gave me an awesome argument for Orwellian Politics.

Would you really want to make such an argument? I feel like it is probably opposite the teachings of Mormonism.

For all who are vaguely familiar with British politics, what are your thoughts on UKIP?

The New United States wrote:Would you really want to make such an argument? I feel like it is probably opposite the teachings of Mormonism.

I actually am making the argument via TG with someone.

Pevvania wrote:For all who are vaguely familiar with British politics, what are your thoughts on UKIP?

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha MURICA!

Albenia wrote:Are you a Libertarian? Because for one you just gave me an awesome argument for Orwellian Politics.

Haha, Libertarian. Ha. Ha ha.

No.

IRL a Liberal Socialist, as defined by Wikipedia, not as defined by Pev :P

This nation is a puppet of a nation that is a socialist Brave New World-esque utopia-come-dystopia/parody on Hedonism/commentary on what I used to perceive as an increasing apathy towards politics and the world by young people.

Pevvania wrote:I read the article. I agree that raising workers' wages would combat poverty, and that something needs to be done. This is why I believe America/Britain/wherever should a) abolish fiat money and return to the gold standard, b) abolish corporation taxes (which would raise wages by 12-13%), c) abolish the minimum wage and d) end the subsidisation of single parenting. The American welfare state discourages marriage through a very poor system of means testing. You're extremely unlikely to fall below the poverty line if you have any kind of job, a spouse and a high school diploma.

Welfare systems should support a person's right to be single while taking care of a child if they so wish, independent of gender. The de-incentive to be married may be a side effect of subsidizing single parents, but it would be utterly unfair to force people to live together - especially in the case of abusive spouses. Not to mention it's a restriction of a person's right to be with who they want to be. Trapping people in marriages through financial limitations is wrong and unlibertarian, not to mention unfair.

Ending corporation tax will not automatically make more jobs. Companies are often limited by demand, and if nobody has any cash to make demand, no more jobs will be created even if the corporation has more cash in their pocket.

As I said in my previous post, abolishing the minimum wage may rise the average wage, but the lowest wages will not automatically rise. Rising the average wage may be great (and hey, the upper echelons of society will be SO much better off!) but it will not necessarily help the poorest and absolutely cannot guarantee the absence of poverty.

Pevvania wrote:It's a funny article, but there is no link at all between the legality of firearms and high crime rates. Switzerland has the lowest crime and homicide rates in the world, even though it's literally mandatory for every household to own an assault rifle in case of conscription.

And the media massively overstates America's "gun problem". Gun murders have been cut in half in the past two decades and are continuing to fall, despite the widespread liberalisation of firearm laws.

More fun facts: of the 30,000 gun deaths in 2010, 19,392 were suicides. Only 11,100 were murders, of which 80% - 8,900 - are gang-related. I wonder what that number would look like if the War on Drugs ended.

Sauce: http://tinyurl.com/k2sd4d2

The article points out a link between mass murders and gun availability, not gun murder and gun availability in general. These are different (albeit linked) debates.

Also, RE the suicide rates: http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/gun-ownership-and-use/

and http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/magazine/spr08gunprevalence/

and http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/magazine/guns-and-suicide/

NB: The last article; guns suicides often happen in moments of panic and despair, where, with only other, less lethal methods available, the victim would not have killed themselves. For what it's worth (nothing), I can site anecdotes.

Guns don't always kill other people.

Pevvania wrote:For all who are vaguely familiar with British politics, what are your thoughts on UKIP?

Fascism lite.

Humpheria wrote:hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha MURICA!

I 'gree, bubba.

Humpheria wrote:hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha MURICA!

http://searchingforsuperwomen.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/WW-Goddamn-Right.gif

Humpheria wrote:hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha MURICA!

Murica is the onlaay countray that matters, soooonn.

Pevvania wrote:For all who are vaguely familiar with British politics, what are your thoughts on UKIP?

Fascism. I no like.

Pevvania wrote:For all who are vaguely familiar with British politics, what are your thoughts on UKIP?

People are upset with the economy and the government. UKIP speaks their language and has given them a scapegoat (Europe/"filthy immigrants"). Like many right wing parties' success stories they're a product of discontent in the less educated and more economically affected and will eventually disappear once the economy picks up again.

Same for France and a bunch of other European nations who've gone and given massive percentages to right wing d'bag parties in the EU elections.

Albenia wrote:Fascism. I no like.

Nah. To add onto it. The Scapegoat Immigrants. Thus giving the people unity against a common foe. It brings order and Unity (If they had the majority support that is)

Albenia wrote:So I am making a new Party in CFN based of one of my favorite political parties from one of my favorite books..

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_time_alliance/detail=factbook/id=262206

So want to join this for the trolololz.

Lack There Of wrote:http://searchingforsuperwomen.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/WW-Goddamn-Right.gif

I went to searchingforsuperwomen.com.

Nope.

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How is everyone today?

Pevvania wrote:For all who are vaguely familiar with British politics, what are your thoughts on UKIP?

its the best party in the United Kingdom.

Humpheria wrote:Just fine?

yes just fine, but now that you mention it its Hump day so it should be a good day for you.

Humpheria wrote:How is everyone today?

Good. And you?:

The Amarican Empire wrote:fine

Hes likely very tired and extremely hungry. Thats what happens if youre like Chris.

Ankha wrote:Good. And you?:Hes likely very tired and extremely hungry. Thats what happens if youre like Chris.

no just in the middle of it being a good day or a bad one.

Wow. Kill em' ^

Libertatem I just thought of a way to fix all your political problems.

I am not Albul, though I know her. I am my own self.

Albenia wrote:Libertatem I just thought of a way to fix all your political problems.

Make Humpy Dictator for life?

This is ridiculous. You actually think that gun registration and reasonable gun control (no assault rifles except for active military personnel) is a leftist idea? You actually think that cheap (not even free) healthcare is leftist? Just how right-wing are you guys?

The Amarican Empire wrote:Make Humpy Dictator for life?

Implantation of the ban of Thought Crime!

Think about it. If everyone thinks the same way (Whether by free will or not) the region is strengthen through Unity.

Implement policies to keep the poroles dumbed down as well and not as aware as what happens in the government. Make the elections solely for the board as well.

Pangea Liberalis wrote:This is ridiculous. You actually think that gun registration and reasonable gun control (no assault rifles except for active military personnel) is a leftist idea? You actually think that cheap (not even free) healthcare is leftist? Just how right-wing are you guys?

THANK YOU!

I guess I committed thoughtcrime. I now await a ban.

Pangea Liberalis wrote:I guess I committed thoughtcrime. I now await a ban.

They don't have it yet....but they should have Thought crime.

Also, gun control is not a left-right issue. It's a libertarian-authoritarian issue, since both the Communists (left) and the fascists (center/right) used gun control. At worst, I am a bit more authoritarian when it comes to protecting greater rights, such as the right to life.

I'm just saying that paying $500 each time you get a check up is unreasonable.

Pev, put up the next election?

Albenia wrote:Implantation of the ban of Thought Crime!

Think about it. If everyone thinks the same way (Whether by free will or not) the region is strengthen through Unity.

Implement policies to keep the poroles dumbed down as well and not as aware as what happens in the government. Make the elections solely for the board as well.

The only thing I'm thinking about right now is how utterly insane you sound.

The New United States wrote:The only thing I'm thinking about right now is how utterly insane you sound.

If you implement Thought Crime then you can solve all problems. Regional Unity will thrive! Erase all who go against The Party!

=This is me Becoming someone who apparently supports the RLP=

Hallo Island wrote:Pev, put up the next election?

There are only 5 Board seats. There are no more elections.

Also, Pangea, could you please change your flag? You're causing a bit of confusion, since your current flag looks like Conservative Idealism In Libertatem's.

What about seat 2?

Hallo Island wrote:What about seat 2?

Liberosia dropped out of the race.

Miencraft wrote:Also, Pangea, could you please change your flag? You're causing a bit of confusion, since your current flag looks like Conservative Idealism In Libertatem's.

Yes, please.

Miencraft wrote:Also, Pangea, could you please change your flag? You're causing a bit of confusion, since your current flag looks like Conservative Idealism In Libertatem's.

I see few differences from my old flag and this new flag. I simply changed a white sun into a white star. I do this and all of a sudden you all ask me to change it. I refuse to change it now, since I have barely changed my nation's flag.

Light blue background + dark blue X = me.

Dark blue background + light blue X = Conservative Idealism.

Pangea Liberalis wrote:I see few differences from my old flag and this new flag. I simply changed a white sun into a white star. I do this and all of a sudden you all ask me to change it. I refuse to change it now, since I have barely changed my nation's flag.

Please change it. I thought you were Con.

Pangea Liberalis wrote:I see few differences from my old flag and this new flag. I simply changed a white sun into a white star. I do this and all of a sudden you all ask me to change it. I refuse to change it now, since I have barely changed my nation's flag.

The vastness of the change is not important; since CI is an important member of the Libertatem government and your new flag looks similar to his, it is easy to confuse what you are saying for his own words, which can have major repercussions.

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*Cough* Thought crime *Cough* Ban him

Albenia wrote:*Cough* Thought crime *Cough* Ban him

Thinkin's illegal 'round these parts, yungun.

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We could also ban him if humpy was our all powerful Dictator.

The Amarican Empire wrote:We could also ban him if humpy was our all powerful Dictator.

Also a great idea.

Alright, I will make another minute change to my flag, but no more.

The Amarican Empire wrote:We could also ban him if humpy was our all powerful Dictator.

Yup.

Only a fool would confuse my flag with Conservative Idealism's flag.

Pangea Liberalis wrote:Alright, I will make another minute change to my flag, but no more.

That is exponentially better now. Thanks.

The next vote will be the Libertatem-FFS Treaty which was already ratified by FFS.

The Amarican Empire wrote:We could also ban him if humpy was our all powerful Dictator.

I don't know which is more hurtful. The fact that I am the center of these jokes or the fact people came out in public support of banning me from a region for no apparent reason.

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Humpheria wrote:The next vote will be the Libertatem-FFS Treaty which was already ratified by FFS.

I don't know which is more hurtful. The fact that I am the center of these jokes or the fact people came out in public support of banning me from a region for no apparent reason.

Or our new God.

Humpheria wrote:I don't know which is more hurtful. The fact that I am the center of these jokes or the fact people came out in public support of banning me from a region for no apparent reason.

wut

Ipian wrote:wut

Ankha wrote:Yup.

Ipian wrote:Also a great idea.

Ipian wrote:wut

We are saying if you were our dictator, you could ban PL for thought crimes.

How is my new flag?

Hallo Island wrote:How is my new flag?

Cool.

Humpheria wrote:The next vote will be the Libertatem-FFS Treaty which was already ratified by FFS.

I don't know which is more hurtful. The fact that I am the center of these jokes or the fact people came out in public support of banning me from a region for no apparent reason.

Because Thought Crime prove exponentially better then what I thought.

An Umbrella Corporation from the government in which all smaller companies are encompassed in. The Party has all power and elections should be held in the board. All philosophies against this are contradictory and are considered doublespeak.

Hallo Island wrote:How is my new flag?

I don't like it.

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Ipian wrote:We are saying if you were our dictator, you could ban PL for thought crimes.

OH. Ok, I woke up from one of those mind-altering naps and I was confused. Carry on.

Hallo Island wrote:How is my new flag?

I thought you were Conservative Idealism for a bit.

Humpheria wrote:OH. Ok, I woke up from one of those mind-altering naps and I was confused. Carry on.

Ok.

Albenia wrote:Because Thought Crime prove exponentially better then what I thought.

An Umbrella Corporation from the government in which all smaller companies are encompassed in. The Party has all power and elections should be held in the board. All philosophies against this are contradictory and are considered doublespeak.

My mind is dead right now. I don't even know what you said.

Humpheria wrote:My mind is dead right now. I don't even know what you said.

lol ONLY PARTY HAVE POWER ELECTIONS FOR BOARD ONLY. Basically.

The Amarican Empire wrote:I don't like it.

Why not?

Humpheria wrote:My mind is dead right now. I don't even know what you said.

Give the Party all the power

Elections held within the board

All who do not agree with the party are committing Thought crime and can be banned.

Ipian wrote:lol ONLY PARTY HAVE POWER ELECTIONS FOR BOARD ONLY. Basically.

That doesn't make any sense. Which party and what board? Are you talking about here or real life?

Albenia wrote:Give the Party all the power

Elections held within the board

All who do not agree with the party are committing Thought crime and can be banned.

Oh, yeah, let's do that.

Hallo Island wrote:How is my new flag?

It ain't very Christ like I'll give ya that

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Humpheria wrote:Oh, yeah, let's do that.

Seriously? Really? Your going to listen to me?

Humpheria wrote:That doesn't make any sense. Which party and what board? Are you talking about here or real life?

The RLP and this board.

Reagan and I are not RLP.

Irish Rebels wrote:It ain't very Christ like I'll give ya that

Yay

He's an atheist and ya call me a lefty. Psshh! Are y'all trying to make me laugh?

Pangea Liberalis wrote:He's an atheist and ya call me a lefty. Psshh! Are y'all trying to make me laugh?

You can be a rightist Atheist or Leftist religious.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Reagan and I are not RLP.

So you either join the RLP, accept the RLP as the one true party or get banned for Thought Crime.

Albenia wrote:Seriously? Really? Your going to listen to me?

The RLP and this board.

Why not? Might not agree with you but even you deserve to be listened too.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Reagan and I are not RLP.

No, but one of you caucuses with the Majority.

Also, since I'm listening, may it be known that I do not support implementation of thought crimes.

Humpheria wrote:Also, since I'm listening, may it be known that I do not support implementation of thought crimes.

Darn it......

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