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Kraannei wrote:More specifically...

I am almost 16, libertarian marxist, bisexual, male, atheist, pro-Palestine, anti-capitalism, anti-fascism, anti-monarchism, anti-authority, anti-religion, anti-America, anti-North Korea, anti-China, anti-Russia, anti-Israel, anti-Zionism, pro-communism, anti-Stalin, anti-Leninism, pro-maoism, pro-Cuba, pro-revolution, pro-anarchy, pro-marxism, anti-wealth, anti-hatespeech, pro-proletariat, pro-working class, anti-ruling class, pro-democracy, pro-freedom fighting (some may call it terrorism), pro-socialism, pro-gun, pro-feminism, pro-LGBTQ rights, pro-choice, anti-death sentence, pro-developing world rebellion, anti-imperialism, anti-colonialism, blah blah blah blah, you get the picture.

Me: http://i.imgur.com/soSir9L.jpg?1

so edgy. So predictable.

Kraannei wrote:More specifically...

I am almost 16, libertarian marxist, bisexual, male, atheist, pro-Palestine, anti-capitalism, anti-fascism, anti-monarchism, anti-authority, anti-religion, anti-America, anti-North Korea, anti-China, anti-Russia, anti-Israel, anti-Zionism, pro-communism, anti-Stalin, anti-Leninism, pro-maoism, pro-Cuba, pro-revolution, pro-anarchy, pro-marxism, anti-wealth, anti-hatespeech, pro-proletariat, pro-working class, anti-ruling class, pro-democracy, pro-freedom fighting (some may call it terrorism), pro-socialism, pro-gun, pro-feminism, pro-LGBTQ rights, pro-choice, anti-death sentence, pro-developing world rebellion, anti-imperialism, anti-colonialism, blah blah blah blah, you get the picture.

Me: http://i.imgur.com/soSir9L.jpg?1

Guys I forgot to mention that he is really pretty

Hands off.

I got dibs on him like two months ago.

Post by Kraannei suppressed by a moderator.

Kraannei wrote:Violence of the oppressed is always justified.

That's funny, because I don't see the Israelis trying to oppress anyone.

They're defending their home from terrorists, and they're doing a damn fine job at it.

Unrelated fun fact: Shadow Afforess, the creator of NS++, is now an ex-nation.

Miencraft wrote:Unrelated fun fact: Shadow Afforess, the creator of NS++, is now an ex-nation.

old news is old

Miencraft wrote:Unrelated fun fact: Shadow Afforess, the creator of NS++, is now an ex-nation.

For quite a while.

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Republic Of Minerva wrote:old news is old

Humpheria wrote:For quite a while.

I never said it was news guise

Just fun fact.

Kraannei wrote:Oh wait.... it isnt their home. Their justification for land is religious scripture and the British Empire.... not two trustworthy things.

Because the Palestinians really have more than scripture as their justification.

middle east...don't care, get America to withdraw completely and leave the place to rot. Offer trade, economic liberalism always helps as ideas encourage the youth to rebel as in Ukraine.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:middle east...don't care, get America to withdraw completely and leave the place to rot. Offer trade, economic liberalism always helps as ideas encourage the youth to rebel as in Ukraine.

Yeah, basically.

Kraannei wrote:More specifically...

I am almost 16, libertarian marxist, bisexual, male, atheist, pro-Palestine, anti-capitalism, anti-fascism, anti-monarchism, anti-authority, anti-religion, anti-America, anti-North Korea, anti-China, anti-Russia, anti-Israel, anti-Zionism, pro-communism, anti-Stalin, anti-Leninism, pro-maoism, pro-Cuba, pro-revolution, pro-anarchy, pro-marxism, anti-wealth, anti-hatespeech, pro-proletariat, pro-working class, anti-ruling class, pro-democracy, pro-freedom fighting (some may call it terrorism), pro-socialism, pro-gun, pro-feminism, pro-LGBTQ rights, pro-choice, anti-death sentence, pro-developing world rebellion, anti-imperialism, anti-colonialism, blah blah blah blah, you get the picture.

Me: http://i.imgur.com/soSir9L.jpg?1

Hi, Kraannei. I think there's no harm in a li'l freedom fighting - provided that it's for the right cause.

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Pevvania wrote:Hi, Kraannei. I think there's no harm in a li'l freedom fighting - provided that it's for the right cause.

Or the right price.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:middle east...don't care, get America to withdraw completely and leave the place to rot. Offer trade, economic liberalism always helps as ideas encourage the youth to rebel as in Ukraine.

Hell yeah! We could also topple more than a few dictators if we made more oil.

Kraannei wrote:Oh wait.... it isnt their home. Their justification for land is religious scripture and the British Empire.... not two trustworthy things.

I agree with you speaking big picture, but in the current situation, Palestine did invade Israel first.

I know little about the Palestine-Israel situation, but I think that it could all be solved if the fighting stopped, free trade and movement were allowed throughout the land and - most importantly - all lands that were stolen should be returned to their original owners.

There is Libertarian justification for not supporting Israel, however:

http://reason.com/blog/2012/11/21/why-libertarians-might-not-take-israels

Pevvania wrote:I know little about the Palestine-Israel situation, but I think that it could all be solved if the fighting stopped, free trade and movement were allowed throughout the land and - most importantly - [B]all lands that were stolen should be returned to their original owners[/B].

That's the problem.

Pevvania wrote:I know little about the Palestine-Israel situation, but I think that it could all be solved if the fighting stopped, free trade and movement were allowed throughout the land and - most importantly - all lands that were stolen should be returned to their original owners.

I think the problem is neither side is going to be very willing to reach a peaceful resolution like that. Israel would, I think, jump on the opportunity to put an end to the conflict there if they just get to keep their independence and get a guarantee of peace. The Palestinians won't stop until Israel is destroyed because they feel it's their rightful territory.

I think it's best to just sit by and see how it plays out. It's getting pretty interesting.

Miencraft wrote:I think the problem is neither side is going to be very willing to reach a peaceful resolution like that. Israel would, I think, jump on the opportunity to put an end to the conflict there if they just get to keep their independence and get a guarantee of peace. The Palestinians won't stop until Israel is destroyed because they feel it's their rightful territory.

I think it's best to just sit by and see how it plays out. It's getting pretty interesting.

Depending on the tone, that can be construed as very screwed up.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Depending on the tone, that can be construed as very screwed up.

You're forgetting one thing.

You see that name by the flag?

It's my name.

Last day to join the RP for anyone who hasn't already (which is like 3 people actually active on the RMB but whatever):

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=304475

Guise......... 94!

Kraannei wrote:pro-gun

A man after my own heart

Humpheria wrote:Guise......... 94!

I see your 94 and raise you a 69.

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Kraannei wrote:To disarm the working class is a capital offense.

Guns are tools, and extensive training should be given to everyone, so they know how to use them in responsible ways.

See how he turned that into a commie argument, Liberosia? Does that make you angry?

Kraannei wrote:To disarm the working class is a capital offense.

Guns are tools, and extensive training should be given to everyone, so they know how to use them in responsible ways.

Capital offense? You want to kill gun control advocates?

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Kraannei wrote:To disarm the working class is a capital offense.

Guns are tools, and extensive training should be given to everyone, so they know how to use them in responsible ways.

I agree.

Although there should be some Gun Control

Post by Kraannei suppressed by a moderator.

I am generally pro-gun, however I take the Objectivist argument that criminals shouldn't be allowed to obtain guns, even after they served.

Humpheria wrote:See how he turned that into a commie argument, Liberosia? Does that make you angry?

Nah, see, me and the other plutocrats will simply crush his pathetic revolution utilizing our full industrial might and importing cheap wage slave to betray the proletariat. So I'm not too worried about the radical Commies.

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The communists will end up enslaving everyone in the same manner the state does now due to demoktesis.

I wouldn't worry about it.

Liberosia wrote:Nah, see, me and the other plutocrats will simply crush his pathetic revolution utilizing our full industrial might and importing cheap wage slave to betray the proletariat. So I'm not too worried about the radical Commies.

In case it's not clear, this is satire.

Kraannei wrote:We have GUILLOTINES.

You still do kinda have to get people into the guillotines in order for them to be effective.

Kraannei wrote:We have GUILLOTINES.

I honestly don't care. There are too many reactionary forces in the status quo for any revolution on the scale you seek to ever happen. This is why I approve of the neo-communists. Although I still don't like them as human beings.

Kraannei wrote:We have GUILLOTINES.

Oh, how I love the French Revolution.

Liberosia wrote:I honestly don't care. There are too many reactionary forces in the status quo for any revolution on the scale you seek to ever happen. This is why I approve of the neo-communists. Although I still don't like them as human beings.

Wait? Reactionary forces in this region?

I view out region as split between Anarco-Liberalism, Liberalism and Conservatism (Notice I mean in reference to reforming the region )

Baphometus wrote:Oh, how I love the French Revolution.

Moi aussi! J'adore la revolution du francais!

Albenia wrote:Wait? Reactionary forces in this region?

I view out region as split between Anarco-Liberalism, Liberalism and Conservatism (Notice I mean in reference to reforming the region )

I mean IRL

Humpheria wrote:Moi aussi! J'adore la revolution du francais!

I hate the French Revolution(s)

Liberosia wrote:I mean IRL

...Oh.

Liberosia wrote:I hate the French Revolution(s)

Je deteste tu.

Liberosia wrote:I hate the French Revolution(s)

WHAT?

THEY BROUGHT DEMOCRACY, LIBERALISM, THE LEFT-RIGHT SCALE AND THE BEGINS OF SOCIALISM TO EUROPE

[B]Public Statement- Appointment to Office and Objectives as Manager of State[/B]

Good Afternoon, Libertatem,

First off, I would like to thank my predecessor, [nation=short]Conservative Idealism[/nation], for his service to our region and to the NationStates community, as a whole. I am sorry that you lost the Board election, but it is my hope that you will find some way to continue serving us. Additionally, I would like to thank our President, [nation=short]Pevvania[/nation], for allowing me the opportunity to serve as Manager of State, for you all.

I am posting this here, today, because I feel that I must explain my ideas and goals to you all, the folks that I, as Manager of State, am obligated to serve.

Libertatem is an inherently military-oriented region, founded with the goal of fighting against the Fascist hordes and The Red Scourge. That is, undeniably, this region's most basic purpose. With that in mind, we must also accept that this War on Totalitarianism is the guiding force in our foreign policy, which means that, naturally, our military and diplomatic efforts are intertwined. The Department of State's purpose, therefore, should not be to end our War on Totalitarianism, but to supplement it. To use diplomatic means to benefit our military efforts. Taking this into account, my biggest focus, from here on, shall be to utilize all of my power to strengthen REATO's military capabilities.

REATO, simply put, is not fulfilling its one purpose: to unite a handful of Conservative/Libertarian regions into a single, unified military force, capable of harnessing the combined military power of them all, against the totalitarian hordes. Let us be honest: REATO has little to no strategic value in our War on Totalitarianism. From what I can tell, there is no communication or coordination between the military forces belonging to the REATO signatories.

I intend to propose legislation (to REATO) that will create a well-organized, well-structured, unified REATO military force. An Allied Military Command, led by a Supreme Allied Commander (perhaps given to Libertatem's General, or there could be an application process). The active military forces of all regions would be added to a REATO roster and would act as a single, unified military force, split into several Brigades, each representing either a single regional member or a few (depending upon the size of each region's military). This would strengthen our military capabilities, and would create one, united military power to represent the Libertarians/Conservatives of NationStates (similar to how Right Wing Uprising is representative of Fascists, and The Red Scourge is representative of the reds).

As a natural extension of our war against totalitarianism, I am also happy, today, to propose to you all The WAR Act: http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_new_united_states/detail=factbook/id=284852

This Act shall affirm that we, the people of Libertatem, stand against the tyrranical ways of the World Assembly. This will make our President responsible for utilizing all of his endorsements to vote against the supranational, heavy-handed legislation of the corrupt General Assembly. This act was authored by myself, with some help from [nation=short]Pevvania[/nation].

Finally, I wish to affirm that the Department of State shall continue to support and strengthen ties with any and all regions who seek peace, but I, as long as I am in office (which is only going to be a month, for what it's worth), will never mend ties with those who seek to impose their will upon the free regions of NationStates.

Thank you,

[nation=short]The New United States[/nation], Manager of State

Albenia wrote:Wait? Reactionary forces in this region?

I view out region as split between Anarco-Liberalism, Liberalism and Conservatism (Notice I mean in reference to reforming the region )

I am a (classical) liberal.

I am a true liberal, not those faux social liberals who only seek to decrease freedom by making the government bigger.

Humpheria wrote:Je deteste tu.

Isn't it toi?

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I am a (classical) liberal.

I am a true liberal, not those faux social liberals who only seek to decrease freedom by making the government bigger.

If we use Victoria 2 terms I'm Anarco-Liberal

Liberosia wrote:In case it's not clear, this is satire.

No. It's not.

Pevvania wrote:No. It's not.

Whatever

The French Revolution was a liberal revolution.

The creators and builders of French society - the petite bourgeois - rebelled against the aristocracy that wrongfully seized their wealth and put restrictions on the economy of France to merely suit their needs and suspicions.

Liberosia wrote:Isn't it toi?

Ah, shut up, I'm rusty. I haven't been there for four years.

Liberosia wrote:I honestly don't care. There are too many reactionary forces in the status quo for any revolution on the scale you seek to ever happen. This is why I approve of the neo-communists. Although I still don't like them as human beings.

Communists are the true reactionaries on the political spectrum, as they seek to take humanity back to the stone age.

Beautiful TNUS. I wholeheartedly support your endeavors.

Liberosia wrote:Whatever

It doesn't go right to the top, it goes UP to the top.

Liberosia wrote:I hate the French Revolution(s)

Wasn't it a classical liberal one in design?

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Beautiful TNUS. I wholeheartedly support your endeavors.

^

Pevvania wrote:Wasn't it a classical liberal one in design?

For the most part the revolution had many interests in mind. Some revolutionaries were classical liberals, others were more akin to early socialists. All of them opposed the current monarchy for some reason or another, but a few sought to establish a new French monarchy.

Jacobin France shortly after the revolution was very similar to libertarianism actually, as well as adherents to the Cult of Reason were almost like early Objectivists.

When does the next board term start?

Pev where's your voice.

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Why is pevs voice that important? No offense mr. Pevident.

Fun Fact: I joined Nationstates on the first day of the Pevvania administration.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Why is pevs voice that important? No offense mr. Pevident.

British/Aussie/American accent, why would it not be important?

Republic Of Minerva wrote:For the most part the revolution had many interests in mind. Some revolutionaries were classical liberals, others were more akin to early socialists. All of them opposed the current monarchy for some reason or another, but a few sought to establish a new French monarchy.

Jacobin France shortly after the revolution was very similar to libertarianism actually, as well as adherents to the Cult of Reason were almost like early Objectivists.

Wasn't Jacobin France radically leftist in practice?

Pevvania wrote:Wasn't Jacobin France radically leftist in practice?

No. The Jacobians were Anarco-Liberal

Pevvania wrote:Wasn't Jacobin France radically leftist in practice?

http://napoleonstark.wordpress.com/political-parties-of-the-french-revolution/

Miencraft wrote:Pev where's your voice.

It currently occupies my larynx. But you'll hear it soon enough.

Pevvania wrote:It currently occupies my larynx. But you'll hear it soon enough.

I don't know why I expected that answer.

I personally supported the Enragres/Hébertists

By the way, Humph, Mike Pence doesn't sound too great. I'm no Hoosier, but from what I've read it seems that he's expanded Medicaid, virtually kept Common Core in place and, bizarrely, created a government preschool program. Governor Daniels, however, sounds like one heck of a governor.

Pevvania wrote:By the way, Humph, Mike Pence doesn't sound too great. I'm no Hoosier, but from what I've read it seems that he's expanded Medicaid, virtually kept Common Core in place and, bizarrely, created a government preschool program. Governor Daniels, however, sounds like one heck of a governor.

Mitch is a great governor.

The New United States wrote:The WAR Act: http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_new_united_states/detail=factbook/id=284852

If there are no more Board elections, I request that this be put to a House vote.

Pevvania wrote:Wasn't it a classical liberal one in design?

Eh, sure, in design. Not really in practice, and definately not after.

I support Manager NUS's WAR Act.

Mike is great, but Mitch is the greatest. Mike has introduced innovative right to work laws, expanded political freedoms, and increased our surplus significantly. Not to mention, he's a nice guy.

I support WAR, though I do note that it seems a little dictatorial towards the President.

Liberosia wrote:Whatever

You know what Pev, fine. This Is Not Satire.

Now, I'm gonna be partially gone for about two hours. If I don't come back to a Pev voice, I'm gonna slice.

Humpheria wrote:Now, I'm gonna be partially gone for about two hours. If I don't come back to a Pev voice, I'm gonna slice.

What does that mean? "Slice"

Liberosia wrote:What does that mean? "Slice"

I'm gonna slice a fool.

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Humpheria wrote:Now, I'm gonna be partially gone for about two hours. If I don't come back to a Pev voice, I'm gonna slice.

Unfortunately for you, I'm going to bed now.

OH HELL NO YOU DON'T

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Pevvania wrote:Unfortunately for you, I'm going to bed now.

But it's only, like, 11PM. I think.

I try to math sometimes.

Pev's a liar, I vote for Impeachment.

So I'm playing Pokemon right now.

Goddamn putting Fairy type on pre-existing Pokemon is so confusing.

Miencraft wrote:So I'm playing Pokemon right now.

Goddamn putting Fairy type on pre-existing Pokemon is so confusing.

I'm playing pokemon Diamond at the moment.

Looks like UCR's under new management. I'd say we leave them alone now.

At least Sherm is delegate. He is a level headed, bright fellow. Always liked him.

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