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Skaveria wrote:So a mod can just delete a nation without any warning or expressed reason? Also, this happening during the red fleet invasion is the kind of stuff thatcould start conspiracy theories... Not saying it is... But... It's a pretty big coincidence.

It's well known that the Red Fleet has a lot of sympathizers in the WA. This is why they've so far avoided any condemnations and instead were commended.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_past_resolution/id=184/council=2

Miencraft, Rateria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

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So, what is the plan for the new government?

Rateria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

Guys how do you take "Socialism" out of your state policy thing, I don't want to be socialist and I don't recall making my nation socialist to begin with?

The New Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:Guys how do you take "Socialism" out of your state policy thing, I don't want to be socialist and I don't recall making my nation socialist to begin with?

shut up commie

The States Of Balloon wrote:shut up commie

Don't you remember I am a dogmatic anarcho-capitalist through and through :þ

Republic Of Minerva wrote:It's well known that the Red Fleet has a lot of sympathizers in the WA. This is why they've so far avoided any condemnations and instead were commended.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_past_resolution/id=184/council=2

After a quick look at that resolution, a part of it is that they didn't raid capitalist regions that weren't alligned with raiders. Well... They just did. That should be grounds for repealing that resolution. Let's try to repeal it.

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:It wasn't that I didn't get a warning. It's that I got a warning, complied, went back to using the original flag of my nation, and then they deleted me.

Can't you appeal it? Or is it just gone forever now?

The New Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:Don't you remember I am a dogmatic anarcho-capitalist through and through :þ

Yes but you change ideologies just as much as TTA did.

The New Icelandic Commonwealth

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Yes but you change ideologies just as much as TTA did.

TTA?

The New Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:Guys how do you take "Socialism" out of your state policy thing, I don't want to be socialist and I don't recall making my nation socialist to begin with?

Answer issues that will just run your nation even further into the ground.

Miencraft wrote:Answer issues that will just run your nation even further into the ground.

No it's supposed to become a paradise

The New Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:No it's supposed to become a paradise

Sorry to inform you but there is no way to replicate the United States in this game.

Narland, The United States Of Patriots

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1150345

Our government plan

Wait so you want Icelandoc to be the regional language but you don't need even have this in Icelandic?

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:Almighty Lib, I don't speak the caveman talk. Please translate.

Icelandic is much more sophisticated than English. It should be the upper class language in America. Alright, I will translate this

The New Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:TTA?

The Time Alliance, a brony mormon from utah

Skaveria wrote:After a quick look at that resolution, a part of it is that they didn't raid capitalist regions that weren't alligned with raiders. Well... They just did. That should be grounds for repealing that resolution. Let's try to repeal it.

Yeah but that would mean I'd have to join the WA again

If you are gonna write something up, mention how TRF bans anyone with a dissenting opinion. I don't even need to verify that because they're a communist region and that's what communists do whenever they're given an iota of power.

Pevvania

Republic Of Minerva wrote:The Time Alliance, a brony mormon from utah

Oh I don't really know who that is. I have mostly stopped thinking about politics anyway since it's such a huge waste of energy

Jadentopian Order

The New Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:Oh I don't really know who that is. I have mostly stopped thinking about politics anyway since it's such a huge waste of energy

Yes

TTA. What a guy

Pevvania

The States Of Balloon wrote:If you are gonna write something up, mention how TRF bans anyone with a dissenting opinion. I don't even need to verify that because they're a communist region and that's what communists do whenever they're given an iota of power.

I've never written anything like that so I was hoping someone with more experience could run with the idea. I think we could actually get it passed. they got a commandment in 2015. In 2015 people outside of conservative circles didn't really know antifa were the bad guys yet. There was still hysteria about Nazis taking over the country. The red fleet sells itself as protecting leftist regions, but they attacked us, and we haven't been involved in heavy raiding for quite a long time if I'm not mistaken. If we have, and this was retaliatory, tell me now. I don't really pay attention to region politics. Another reason is that in that commendment, it expressly says that they don't raid capitalist regions, just fascists and raiders. We were literally debating on forming a government right before this happened so it should be obvious we're not fascists. I think stripping them of a commendment would hurt them way more than a raid would. The suppression of different opinions only helps our case.

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:But you still stand guard against the Jewish capitalist foreigners who want to rob us is ATM fees, right?

What?

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:But you still stand guard against the Jewish capitalist foreigners who want to rob us with ATM fees, right?

This is why they raided us

Skaveria wrote:I've never written anything like that so I was hoping someone with more experience could run with the idea. I think we could actually get it passed. they got a commandment in 2015. In 2015 people outside of conservative circles didn't really know antifa were the bad guys yet. There was still hysteria about Nazis taking over the country. The red fleet sells itself as protecting leftist regions, but they attacked us, and we haven't been involved in heavy raiding for quite a long time if I'm not mistaken. If we have, and this was retaliatory, tell me now. I don't really pay attention to region politics. Another reason is that in that commendment, it expressly says that they don't raid capitalist regions, just fascists and raiders. We were literally debating on forming a government right before this happened so it should be obvious we're not fascists. I think stripping them of a commendment would hurt them way more than a raid would. The suppression of different opinions only helps our case.

They have held a long-simmering grudge against us, largely because of our successes in the War on Communism. Perhaps most importantly, myself and [nation=short]Republic of Minerva[/nation] led the successful attack on the Congress Of Armed Proletarian States, which was an attempt at creating a 'pan-leftist' version to Reato. Just as it started to gather steam, we led a huge coalition that destroyed it (after I used one of my puppet communist regions to acquire the password). They never forgot about it. We had many other successes, but this was probably the most impactful. Ever since they've been trying to get us back. The most they've been able to do is refound dead regions, which of course they've been parading as great successes comparable to our own.

Nevertheless, I think this serves as a reminder that we need a new government and a strong regional defense to counter this Communist aggression, which has been active on the game for over a decade.

Narland, Rateria, Skaveria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth, West Smolcasm

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:Or. Or. Just hear me out: we could become communists.

Yeah! We're going to sell so many Che t-shirts!

Rateria, Jadentopian Order, Highway Eighty-Eight

The New Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:Looks as if America is all asleep...

*insert some joke about waking the giant*

Rateria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth, Highway Eighty-Eight

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The New Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:Are you guys gonna watch the World's Handball Championship?

the real question is who tf is gonna watch that

Pevvania, Skaveria, Highway Eighty-Eight

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:Christians are cannibals.

Transubstantiation

The New Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:Oh you don't have it in America and have no idea what it is, do you?

I know what handball is it just sounds like something a girl does to you

Highway Eighty-Eight

Jadentopian Order wrote:I know what handball is it just sounds like something a girl does to you

Also no one in a developed nation plays it

Skaveria, Highway Eighty-Eight

I've played Racket ball,or if you're pretentious "Racquetball", which is sorta similar

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:Christians are cannibals.

But only 4% are pedophiles

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Pevvania

To be honest, we did refound a lot of regions too. Blahbania and I collectively held like 200. I generally let the useless ones go except for CAPS and a few others for a long time.

I have no idea how the Norks hold on to what is probably several thousand regions without any of them slipping through. I suspect there is some sort of script involved.

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Republic Of Minerva wrote:Blahbania

Oh gee that sure is a name. Good old days.

Muh Roads

Jadentopian Order wrote:I know what handball is it just sounds like something a girl does to you

I don't understand...

The New Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:I don't understand...

Of course you don't

Highway Eighty-Eight

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:What is succ?

Ohh I get it

Highway Eighty-Eight

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:Christians are cannibals.

I can't help the Lord being so delicious

Highway Eighty-Eight

Yo pass the jesus

West Smolcasm, Highway Eighty-Eight

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Republic Of Minerva wrote:Pevvania

To be honest, we did refound a lot of regions too. Blahbania and I collectively held like 200. I generally let the useless ones go except for CAPS and a few others for a long time.

I have no idea how the Norks hold on to what is probably several thousand regions without any of them slipping through. I suspect there is some sort of script involved.

Yes, we did, but the difference is that we didn't refound regions like 'the Church of Muh Roads' and then claim it as some huge propaganda victory.

Pevvania wrote:Yes, we did, but the difference is that we didn't refound regions like 'the Church of Muh Roads' and then claim it as some huge propaganda victory.

Hot take: Anyone in control of The Church of Muh Roads ought to feel very proud for the achievement.

I support no one for president in 2020, abolish the government. I refuse to ever join a party that is how you catch retard.

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:I'm sorry to say this, but handball is probably better than football.

Shut up liberal

The New Icelandic Commonwealth

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The New Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:Guys how do you take "Socialism" out of your state policy thing, I don't want to be socialist and I don't recall making my nation socialist to begin with?

I drove Narland into the ground by cutting taxes and axing everything (the environment suffers) and then focused on scientific advancement. I would jump from left leaning college state to new york times democracy for over a year, and was a psychotic dictatorship for a short time iirc. The NSIndex Wiki has an issues section that might help. [url]https://nsindex.net/wiki/List_of_NationStates_issues:_0–999[/url]

Rateria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:Fascist.

No joke what some leftists would say lol

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:Last summer, in my previous job, I worked about 50 hours a week on average.

Did the same thing and I hated it, made $7.50.

The New Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:The labour unions want the work week shortened from 40 hours to 35 in Iceland (Iceland works some of the longest hours in the western world, because of the overwork culture in Iceland). They are negotiating with an organization of industries and employers (collective bargaining). What's the libertarian view of the work week and what do you think about shortening it?

I personally don't support a limit on it because I mean, if you want to overwork yourself go ahead. Although if you're gonna have people doing hard work for like 45-50 hrs a week you should at least give overtime for anything over 35-40 hrs.

Miencraft, Narland

Jadentopian Order wrote:Did the same thing and I hated it, made $7.50.

I personally don't support a limit on it because I mean, if you want to overwork yourself go ahead. Although if you're gonna have people doing hard work for like 45-50 hrs a week you should at least give overtime for anything over 35-40 hrs.

What the hell did you make 7.50 an hour? That's robbery

The New Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:What the hell did you make 7.50 an hour? That's robbery

I started at 7.50 doing janitorial work. It wasn't hard work, but tedious and gross at times.

The New Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:What the hell did you make 7.50 an hour? That's robbery

I was a busser at a dine in movie theater. And yeah I sure felt like robbery being that the management was horrible and the work was exhausting. I made like $500 every other week though so I put up with it.

Narland, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:Teenagers in school living with parents aren't supposed to make the same amount as a 40 year old with 20 years of work experience.

No but it's still low. Also, whether they live with their parents is totally irrelevant to how much pay they should get

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The New Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:No but it's still low. Also, whether they live with their parents is totally irrelevant to how much pay they should get

A person is only owed however much someone is willing to pay them. You can think to yourself all day long "I should be paid more." But the right way to get more is to either: ask for a raise, work more hours, or seek new employment, not enlist the help of the government to point a gun at your boss and make him pay you more. THAT'S theft.

Miencraft, Narland, The United States Of Patriots

Skaveria wrote:A person is only owed however much someone is willing to pay them. You can think to yourself all day long "I should be paid more." But the right way to get more is to either: ask for a raise, work more hours, or seek new employment, not enlist the help of the government to point a gun at your boss and make him pay you more. THAT'S theft.

I'm not paying any of you guys anything. Does that mean I think you're worthless?

The way I see it, a person is owed their life and liberty, as well as the means to better secure those things for themselves, in addition to whatever one is willing to pay them.

Narland, Jadentopian Order, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

People can work for as long or as little as they want to, and the trend in capitalist and semi-capitalist nations has overwhelmingly been towards higher wages and shorter hours. Private unions can sometimes negotiate meaningful improvements in working conditions, but generally much of the trend has been due to increases in productivity and competition for labor.

Miencraft, Narland, The United States Of Patriots, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

Trump Admin is planning to block-grant Medicaid without Congress. I'd love to see it happen, but is that even legal?

The New Icelandic Commonwealth

Jadentopian Order wrote:I was a busser at a dine in movie theater. And yeah I sure felt like robbery being that the management was horrible and the work was exhausting. I made like $500 every other week though so I put up with it.

Did you guys have a union?

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The New Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:Did you guys have a union?

No, I actually joked about making one which resulted in a stern talking-to from my manager. I like unions.

Pevvania wrote:Trump Admin is planning to block-grant Medicaid without Congress. I'd love to see it happen, but is that even legal?

I don't think so? I'm not entirely sure but I think grants and the like have to come from Congress. I know that all budget bills have to originate in the House, so I would assume a block grant falls under that. Also executive orders can just not be funded by Congress, so there goes avoiding Congress.

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:IMO, unions for jobs at movie theatres and the like shouldn't be a thing. Go find a different job, it shouldn't be your life plan.

Why not? Here you can be in a union for everything

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West Smolcasm wrote:I'm not paying any of you guys anything. Does that mean I think you're worthless?

The way I see it, a person is owed their life and liberty, as well as the means to better secure those things for themselves, in addition to whatever one is willing to pay them.

West Smolcasm wrote:I'm not paying any of you guys anything. Does that mean I think you're worthless?

The way I see it, a person is owed their life and liberty, as well as the means to better secure those things for themselves, in addition to whatever one is willing to pay them.

mIm

West Smolcasm wrote:I'm not paying any of you guys anything. Does that mean I think you're worthless?

The way I see it, a person is owed their life and liberty, as well as the means to better secure those things for themselves, in addition to whatever one is willing to pay them.

I'm not arguing people's intrinsic worth is based on what they make. I'm referring to one's labor. Your labor is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it, or whatever tou produce if you're working for yourself. I think this minimum-wage debate would go away if people had a little more self-awareness about what labor is worth. When I worked as a janitor, I can honestly say I wasn't worth 15$ an hour. I just wasn't. Fast food workers aren't worth 15$ an hour either. People overestimate the value of their own labor because it's THEIR labor. It's arrogant.

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:IMO, unions for jobs at movie theatres and the like shouldn't be a thing. Go find a different job, it shouldn't be your life plan.

See also: government employee unions, though for different reasons.

Narland, Highway Eighty-Eight

Anyone watching the NFL playoffs?

The New Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:What the hell did you make 7.50 an hour? That's robbery

My first job was technically classified as volunteer work because it only paid ~$2.00 an hour (though by the end I was being paid a bit more than that because I was pretty good at my job). But it was a good experience and helped me learn many important skills. My current job pays me 10.00 an hour for rather irregular work hours. But it works great for me. I would rather make $2 an hour and get work experience than not get 0.00 and no experience.

Narland, Rateria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth, Highway Eighty-Eight

The United States Of Patriots wrote:My first job was technically classified as volunteer work because it only paid ~$2.00 an hour (though by the end I was being paid a bit more than that because I was pretty good at my job). But it was a good experience and helped me learn many important skills. My current job pays me 10.00 an hour for rather irregular work hours. But it works great for me. I would rather make $2 an hour and get work experience than not get 0.00 and no experience.

I guess Iceland is also more expensive so I'm used to hearing higher salary numbers too

Rateria

The New Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:I guess Iceland is also more expensive so I'm used to hearing higher salary numbers too

Plus inflation and currency exchange and such. The US does have a kind of different culture towards work than Europe too. Idk how it is for you guys but here if you're working min wage to live, you're usually expected to work another job.

Rateria

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The New Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:I guess Iceland is also more expensive so I'm used to hearing higher salary numbers too

I also have no idea what the conversion rate currently is for USD to Iceland's currency

Rateria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

whoa, turns out $1 is 120.62 Krona

Rateria, The New Icelandic Commonwealth

There's been a kind of a cultural understanding in the U.S that jobs that pay minimum wage are for college students and high schoolers. Most of them anyway.. It's usually the cultural expectation that you either go to school to learn to do something technical, or you get started in a trade, both of which pay well. The problem is that the trade jobs are disappearing and not everyone is capable of succeeding in college.

Take this for instance: The United States military will not take any applicant with an I.Q lower than 83. That's an organization with a strong motivation to take in as many people as possible and the resources to figure this out. They've come to the conclusion that with an I.Q lower than 83 there's not a single job in the military a person could do and it not be 100% counter-productive. Think about it, That's 10% of the population. There's 10% of the population that literally cannot sustain employment with even the most basic of jobs. The big question now is: What do we do with them? The Left's answer is , "Throw money at them." That won't work. People need a purpose, a calling, an identity. A career is a big part of that. Especially for men.

Miencraft, Rateria, The Reborn States Of America

Skaveria wrote:There's been a kind of a cultural understanding in the U.S that jobs that pay minimum wage are for college students and high schoolers. Most of them anyway.. It's usually the cultural expectation that you either go to school to learn to do something technical, or you get started in a trade, both of which pay well. The problem is that the trade jobs are disappearing and not everyone is capable of succeeding in college.

Take this for instance: The United States military will not take any applicant with an I.Q lower than 83. That's an organization with a strong motivation to take in as many people as possible and the resources to figure this out. They've come to the conclusion that with an I.Q lower than 83 there's not a single job in the military a person could do and it not be 100% counter-productive. Think about it, That's 10% of the population. There's 10% of the population that literally cannot sustain employment with even the most basic of jobs. The big question now is: What do we do with them? The Left's answer is , "Throw money at them." That won't work. People need a purpose, a calling, an identity. A career is a big part of that. Especially for men.

What they must be able to do something, like something robotic and repetitive

The Reborn States Of America

The New Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:What they must be able to do something, like something robotic and repetitive

Those jobs are quickly being eliminated through automation.

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The New Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:What they must be able to do something, like something robotic and repetitive

We have these things called "robots" to take care of stuff like that.

Rateria, Highway Eighty-Eight

Miencraft wrote:We have these things called "robots" to take care of stuff like that.

Then maybe we can eliminate or reduce the number of robots so they can get jobs

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:You gonna go into someone's factory and take away their stuff? In so soing you lower production, raise prices, and more importantly: take away people's stuff.

No you just make a law saying you can only have a certain amount of your production robotic. Unless, of course, you want everything to become automatic and put everyone on UBI

The New Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:No you just make a law saying you can only have a certain amount of your production robotic. Unless, of course, you want everything to become automatic and put everyone on UBI

Still though, why should it be perfectly ok to own 100 robots, but 101 is illegal? It'd violate the rights of the factory owners to own as many robots as they want. We can't just start taking away people's property rights for the greater good. That's a dangerous precedent.

Miencraft, Narland, Rateria, Jadentopian Order, West Smolcasm

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