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Region: Libertatem
This was my fault. This was all my fault.
I'm not referring only to the communications breakdown between Libertatem and the Bloc - I mean nearly every obstacle on the road to progress, diversity, and political centrism. Many have praised me for whatever role I played in our current prosperity, but it's time you all realize that I was the one standing in the way. And some stood with me - those who valued our region's storied traditions over more practical concerns. No longer.
There's a reason our traditions are only meant to be stories - it's time that I reveal to you all that our history is not worth repeating.
Our enemies have never needed to sully our reputation beyond reminding the world of our former identity, which we have done nothing to cast aside. One such enemy, Das Kommune, traces its roots to an alliance of leftist nations, many of whom evacuated in the months following The Communist Region's evacuation. I would know, considering I ordered that evacuation in a failed attempt to claim it for the glory of an imperialistic, xenophobic region of social conservatives - our region. In those days, I was the mastermind behind the Anticomintern, a former 'organization' that does not deserve to be called REATO's predecessor due to GGR's membership therein. I was the supporter who made The Libertatem Empire a reality, and I only demanded its dissolution to save face. Though most of our enemies are not directly born from my conquests as DK was, they became our enemies in the first place because of them.
Add to that my constant refusal to support a referendum changing our Constitutional directive or even the flag, citing "the will of the region" as the hindrance when only I (and a few others, sometimes) stood in the way, and you can see why tradition isn't what I had originally boasted it to be.
I'm sorry for the trouble I've caused and the progress I've hindered, and I don't deserve near as much of the credit for our successes as some here think I do. Frankly, I'm surprised I even got any citizens to vote for me at all, considering I was merely resorting to over-the-top theatrics to hype up Miencraft's imminent re-election (and would have conceded had I acquired too many votes).
But now an important issue has come to my attention, and through an epiphany I have realized we've been turning back for far too long, when our focus should instead be the future. What I want to know is what my opponent plans to do about this.
As for what I plan to do...I'm still trying to think of how I can make amends for setting back our foreign policy to so great a degree. I'll need a couple hours to think.
Spy for Libertatem if anything
In other news, I became an Eagle Scout tonight.
Turning back? This War is our forwards now. It was always meant to be, and now we're winning. Our future, as far as this War is concerned, is victory. We will lose allies and make many enemies along the way, but we can attain victory as completely as is possible (which is not 100%, of course, but we can get rid of some of the larger threats). Regardless of the history of this War, we're committed to it now and we've come too far to turn around. This region has changed significantly since its creation, as have we all. The errors of the past do not matter; what matters is that we learn from them, and use them to strengthen ourselves in commitment to this War. I will not give up the War. I will not rename the War. We are the War now. We need to do what we can to finish it. Our purpose is to fight this War, and that's what we're going to do.
Good job.
I'm glad to hear this. It's time for Libertatem to undergo some serious reform.
The most extremist aspects, and I don't use the word extremist lightly, of our anticommunist platform is our region's biggest hurdle to winning the fight against our totalitarian enemies. While the current government deserves credit for some of the gains we have made, they have also been some of the biggest obstructionists to any sort of positive change and fresh ideas. And, as a result, we have now lost a powerful ally. Where was the government over the past few weeks as the extremist-left put pressure on TCB to drop relations with us?? What has the current government done to grant some, any concessions and show some respect for our ally after they endangered their reputation to help us win our biggest military victory in years?? Where was the government when I served as Manager of State and begged them to enact reforms so that I could secure the support of other moderate-left regions??
Every time I have proposed changes that would help us to gain allies and enhance the moral standing of Libertatem in the eyes of the world, the current government has done everything in it's power to oppose such changes, while still asking for my support. From now on, my support will not come so cheaply.
As a result, I'm withdrawing my vote for Mein/Humph until those candidates can put forward some substantive proposals for reform. I ask that my fellow reform-minded citizens do the same.
Conservative Idealism In Libertatem
I believe you, or one of your supporters, once asked me how the RLP and ACOP differ. Now I know.
We have evolved beyond the need for the War on Communism - that is a chapter in Libertatem history that has gone on for too long. We won't find victory in the eradication of an ideology from the game because it simply isn't possible - in this instance, there is only victory in wisdom, and it would be wise for us to call an end to that archaic war. Whether our focus changes to the deliverance of non-combatants from totalitarians and raiders, the acceptance of our place as a NationStates power without reliance on our military, or even a generic new War on Authoritarianism, each option is still better than keeping it fixed to the past.
We have indeed come too far to turn around; our identity is not solely the War anymore. Our population has boomed, we've made incredible allies, and we have learned that not all communist nations in the game are expies of the Soviet Union - Libertatem was never the birthplace of liberty, but it has grown to resemble that name with the progression of time. I once stood for the War on Communism, you know - to me, it was a paragon of conservative idealism. The circumstances behind that have changed, however, and we must adapt to achieve conservative (and libertarian) idealism of a new kind: the negotiation of peace, not the wanton destruction of war, from our position of strength.
Though I withheld a vote from you for the sake of drama, that is no longer the case - I legitimately do not support your Presidency anymore, and believe we are in dire need of a more progressive approach.
Then you've lost my support. If I didn't know any better, I'd mistake that sort of fanaticism and stubbornness for one of Ming's rants...
I would like to issue a formal apology to Muh Roads for breaking my promise to him. I suppose that means I'm damned.
So hang on, we have a candidate running for President on the ticket of "Hey, let's do exactly everything that a foreign Communist emissary from a region that has disavowed us told us to do because it will help an Anti-Communist region get more Communist allies! Yay! Vote for me!"
You never told me what I had done to offend you.
Also, Zenya never told us to do anything. Had she not revealed this bad news to us, however, I might not have realized my mistake until later on.
Fixed it for you...
Why would you have to offend me? You, a person that I have trusted and worked with for months on end, are running on an anti-Imperialist ticket with an Imperialist running mate.
You, a political ally, are running on a ticket against a proven leader that we both know cares so deeply about this region it hurts.
You, a friend, are running on a ticket to bastardize the region I love and destroy the reason that I love said region.
You, a brother, have disappointed and saddened me beyond words. There is no offense, only emptiness.
I agree with your sentiment, but it is not the eradication of the ideology that will result in our victory; our most threatening enemies, the ones with whom we can no longer negotiate, must be subdued in order to have peace. The War is old and, frankly, I do grow tired of it, but I'm not going to give it up. We cannot have peace until the War is wholly concluded; if we discard it, our enemies will not stop. We must complete our mission, then we can have peace. Our foreign policy, I believe, should reflect this; in order to have peace, we must have war. Those who do not accept this will not be our allies. My whole focus is not this War, and I acknowledge that without focusing on it we can progress greatly at home; I have seen this happen before my eyes. But once we look outwards, our near future is only War. This War is our purpose, and I don't care who is offended by it. At home, we are free, prosperous, and generally happy. At large, we are War. This is who we are, and for now this is what we must be. Perhaps soon we can end the War, but it must be ended by seeing it through to the end, not by dropping it.
That one flew right by you, huh?
The point is that you don't see someone running for POTUS flaunting the views of Iran as a means of completely changing the dynamic of the national society. We do have a domestic candidate running on a foreign ticket.
I would like to hit on that as well. A President must having undying, undeniable allegiance to Libertatem. Yet the Honorable Gentleman from the Great State of Betrayal has a hand in the government of countless regions, some that are not even our ally. When I became President, all of my foreign puppets ceased to exist, yet he still exerts power in regions other than this one. I'm not interested in electing David Cameron President of the United States.
Er...I'm not sure how to reply to that. You're definitely taking this pretty hard.
It is in our interest to subdue those enemies, but it would be wise to do so in a manner that doesn't make more. In other words, we need to adapt our strategy, or at least scale down the conflict to just those few enemies.
I believe in a future beyond that War, and achieving that future is in our best interests - our bottom line should be the big picture, not that muddied corner.
I would love to find the person who adores getting stabbed in the back by an ally at the flip of a coin throws away everything that they had worked for for two years at the will of a foreign nation that has forcibly disavowed any contact with us. Yeah, I'm a little miffed, to say the least.
Then this is what we shall do. I do believe, however, that we will always make more enemies, but perhaps we can try to mitigate that.
It will take a long time, but one day we will see a Libertatem without War. I will not be the President then. Perhaps I will even be gone from this game by then. But I am willing to work towards it, and to do that we must deal with our two major enemies.
Also, this.
We can agree on many things, CI, I'm even in the ACOP, but if we're losing allies because of what their potential allies think of us, then they're likely trying to ally with our enemies, and we don't need that happening.
At the end of the day Libertatem, vote for who you wish. But, I am interested in the candidate who is willing to discuss and compromise. I can only see one candidate who does this.
Miencraft is open to discuss this, while Conservative Idealism (In Libertatem) seems to have made up his mind. He will fight for the complete eradication of all of Libertatem's history, ideology, and culture at the will of foreign powers. He does not appear to be interested in the opposing sides. It is his way or the highway.
Take The Highway, Libertatem!
First of all, I'm not flattered by your interpretation of me. I've been a part of Libertatem since the inception of my main nation, and left only to forge it a companion state born from what was once its closest ally. My allegiance to this region has not wavered - I have, however, occasionally disrupted the bottom line to our War.
Second of all, I'm not trying to stab you in the back. I had assumed your interest in this region well transcended a blind fixation on endless combat with a vague opponent, but I suppose I was wrong about that, wasn't I?
I will act to achieve this end sooner - and I think I'm developing an idea as to how to do that.
I disagree on that point - if we're losing allies, it's as an indirect (or direct) result of enemy action...and could result in us having more enemies in the long run. In this instance, it's important that we mitigate this problem, and quickly.
That reminds me of poor ol' Roads just sitting there at the bottom of the polls here.
Anyone know what happened to that guy?
You really don't get it, do you? I mean, I always assumed that you had known what it was to stand up for your beliefs, I had always admired your ability to do that. I always watched you rush to the aid of Libertatem because it was right, but that flame is gone.
The War may no longer be cool. It may not please foreign Communists to support it. But, that is what I believe separates you and Miencraft. He has always, and will always be, and solid leader to follow. You were at one time as well, but now I simply see an opportunist candidacy riding on a few buzz words and an unpopular issue straight to the Delegacy. I see a person that has always put Libertatem first putting Libertatem aside.
I believe in Miencraft because I believe in Libertatem.
I believe in Miencraft because I believe in prosperity at home and prestige abroad.
I believe in Miencraft because I believe in every single person here that I am honored to call my brother.
I believe in what we stand for.
I believe in sleep because of finals, so goodnight guys.
Why does everyone call them finals if they're in the middle of the year?
*facepalm*
Is that what you think of me?
Let's get one thing clear - I'm not doing this on anyone's orders. This is something I've thought about (though not to this degree), and should have done long ago, before more enemies rose to face us. While it is important to preserve our history and tradition, we should have made sure it stayed in the past. I know it's not easy to shake off the influence of social conservatism within our region - is it so easy to trade security, or the perception of it, for freedom? - but the continued progress of our region's identity beyond the scope of an unending season of war depends on it. I trust you to trust me.
Like I said, no clue. I hope he's doing alright.
I may not be as solid as Miencraft, and I've said before that I'm no leader - in truth, I never was. I only entered this race on a whim, to hype up the election, and by all rights I shouldn't even be here, doing this now.
But, you know what? I'm standing up for what's right when it counts, even though that's hard to do now that people expected me to stand for what's worked. I may not have the political prowess of, hell, any of the other nations here, but I will overcome any obstacle to do just that.
That said, I require sleep in order to retain some semblance of sanity, so off I go.
*yawns* Yeah, me too, I guess
It's late at night. That's my "let's think of the weirdest s*** ever and say it on the RMB" time.
You have that too? From all the reactions I've gotten from people, I used to think that was just something I did.
Yeah, it's also the time where I shouldn't be sleeping, because I'm currently working on a super-secret super-project, and right before going to sleep, without any notes in reach, my mind decides "HERE'S THE BEST IDEA EVER WRITE IT DOWN NOW BECAUSE I JUST FIGURED OUT HOW TO DO EVERYTHING" but the rest of me just tells it to shut up and sleep.
Strange things happen after sunset, I tell ya hwat.
Yeah, what's annoying is that my musings on the other corners of the Internet get increasingly bizarre as the night goes on, yet the ideas I really want to jot down come to me as soon as I get into bed.
Also, I am not a morning person.
Seriously though bye now.
G'night.
You've lost the flame, man. I don't hold it against you, and after the election, regardless of the outcome, I don't plan on holding it against you. But, I honestly feel like you are not the "change" that Libertatem needs. You just admitted to entering the race on a whim. You're entire platform was established in one post from a former ally less than 12 hours ago and your entire fan base has drifted between 30 different leaders in the past 12 months. Hallo and TTA each more promising than the last.
I genuinely appreciate what the Anti-War crowd says. You have a lot of great ideas, but this persistence and misplaced enthusiasm has defeated your cause time and time again.
I just can't reconcile getting behind you when there is so many miles ahead we can go with Miencraft. Being in the Miencraft fan club may not be the cool fad right now, but I am proud to say that I am a member.
No, he isn't. And I don't think that accusing loyal citizens who don't support you of working for "foreign interests" is typical of a candidate interested in discussion and compromise. That's a bizarre claim when both the Norks and DK have sent puppets to try and maintain the status quo, your position. They sent puppets to oppose a flag-change because our current flag is a gift to the enemy by turning off potential allies. They send puppets to oppose us reforming the War on Communism, because the War is a propaganda victory for them.
The current government is responsible for a number of serious failures and the government needs to be held responsible for those failures.
I may have to reconsider my entire position now. As in this statement I have connected with you on an emotional level. I do not trust morning people. They can only be described as commie spies.
Indeed. I'm starting to wish I hadn't voted against the flag change.
I wouldn't go that far, but...I don't understand how anyone possibly can be a morning person. It sounds like something defying nature.
I would love to think of a witty response to this, but I lost too many brain cells reading this. I won't be able to understand your banter until after my third cup of coffee tomorrow.
Goodnight, Libertatens, 'Tatemites, NK Spies in Libertatem, and Foreign Communists Watching the Elections to Exert Your Will, and General Populations.
That makes two of us - but I'm also our second-to-last hope of getting beyond the hindrances of the pro-War platform, and I feel it's important. (The last hope being the incumbent, should he change his mind.)
Until the next elections, anyway.
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I will never forget Bloodia's defection from the Chernobyl Union.
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I worry about this as well - and I really hope no destruction is instigated on my account, especially since I'm already to blame for periods of stagnation in our past.
But I will put my trust in the Libertatem people, and hope that we can find a solution that doesn't involve sacrificing our unity. One way or the other, the War on Communism will end - but if we do not come out the winners, it is imperative that we at least do not come out the losers either.
I remember his betrayal in the UCR in addition.
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Nor do I. It's a confusing history.
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I like how this sounds.
I'm not an advocate of trolling.
Anyway, I'm getting off. Night, 'Tatem.
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Hey guys what's up
Welcome to Libertatem.
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Soarose is a new guy. I told him about the website today.
Our flags are for the new political party PRR. (Party for Resistance and Reform)
Ya I only know this website because of the guy in control of Actum
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ohh ok
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Wait you don't think Soarose is my puppet do you? He isn't fwi. I can personally vouch he isn't a spy also. I't talking to him on skype right now.
*fyi
Good morning. So let's make a quick count of the actual votes.
7-2-5
Oh, and we urgently need to replace Muh Roads by an active member, as I received many messages from people who sent him a citizenship application a week ago and still don't have any news from him.
This is a very easy way to discourage new members, so please Mien take on a new manager of internal affairs.
Oh, and we urgently need to replace Muh Roads by an active member, as I received many messages from people who sent him a citizenship application a week ago and still don't have any news from him.
This is a very easy way to discourage new members, so please Mien take on a new manager of internal affairs.
Nice lag.
Hey guys, how do I become a citizen?
Welcome to Libertatem! You become a citizen by following these easy steps:
a) residing here for ten days,
b) filing an application to the Department of Internal Affairs,
c) not being a spy.
I'll do that.
Who wants to be IA?
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I would run for it.
The election reminds me when we merged Communist Republic and the UCR. Lucratoria used five puppets to vote no.
I do not blame CI for this at all, like I seriously doubt that he has anything to do with it at all.
But I very seriously believe that some of our Communist "friends" have sent in puppets to influence our election in order to stop the War on Communism. They obviously don't have enough time to check out our laws.
Okay;-
a) Roger, I'll hang about.
b) can I send that in early?
c) uh oh... got me ;P obviously a commie! FYI No communistness here, not a spy.
Just sayin', that's what a commie would say.
Fair enough. Though I doubt a spy would claim to be one in gest.
Joking, joking, you're fine.
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If nobody else wants to, I'll postulate.
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There are a couple unfamiliar faces voting for Mien as well, it seems. There are definitely multiple foreign powers trying (in vain) to sway the outcome of the elections - it's a shame polls don't have a "selected people only" option.
Temporary result : 7-1-5
The election ends in 4 hours, cast your votes latecomers !
Why vote for [nation=short]Miencraft[/nation]?
+[B]Prosperity at home.[/B] The largest population expansion in our region's history - outpacing even the one during the Pev Administration. [B]42 new nations in 9 days![/B]
+[B]A stronger, safer region.[/B] [B]The destruction of CAPS[/B], overseen by President Mien, meant the defeat of a major terrorist cell and the cementing of our region as a [B]military power.[/B]
+[B]Restraint and constitutionalism.[/B] The President is a strict constitutionalist: the Mien Administration HAS NOT and NEVER WILL support an unconstitutional piece of law.
+[B]Downsizing the bureaucracy.[/B] For a full second term, the President will assign the Justice Department to a [B]full review of the region's laws[/B] to remove inconsistencies, needless regulations and unconstitutional sections of the law.
+[B]A smaller government, a greater people.[/B] When Miencraft took office, the size of government as a percentage of the population stood at 12%. Today that figure has almost been [B]slashed in half to a shocking 6.9%[/B]. The President has a proven record of cutting down government.
+[B]Reaching across party lines.[/B] Rather than playing politics and staffing his cabinet purely with Reaganites, Mien has judged his cabinet based on individual skills and talent. The ACOP leader [nation=short]Conservative Idealism in Libertatem[/nation] was the Attorney General. President Mien once even considered switching to ACOP at one point. The President doesn't care about party politics - he cares about leading the region.
This is not just another RLP administration. This is an administration that has set itself apart from previous ones for its restraint, intelligence and decisiveness. Why would we not want to elect the President to a full term?
[B]PROSPERITY AT HOME, PRESTIGE ABROAD. I LIKE MIEN![/B]
I LIKE MEIN!
Just realised - the Con/Prussia ticket is a coalition ticket. ACOP/RLP. Interesting.
But you have to remember that Prussia has been in essentially every party in the region at some point.
Truedat.
Why vote for me? (Aside from the fact that I'm copying Pev's campaign message without the gaudy formatting tags.)
- Prosperity at home. I cemented the friendships with nations such as [nation=short]Shermaniya[/nation], who convinced the people of TCDN to merge with us and bolster our population. I believe that we are in a position to continue growing our population.
- A stronger, safer region. I was a participant in the CAPS operation, and inspired our former allies in TCB to act with us. Though the left as a whole may consider that a defeat, those truly responsible for the oppression of non-combatants across NationStates now know what it means to pick a fight with Libertatem.
- Restraint and constitutionalism. Every unconstitutional bill to come to the Board's attention when I was a part of it was struck down by my vote, and it is my understanding that the Constitution is (or at least should be) a living document. Amending it to reflect the region's current values in a restrained manner would be a wise policy indeed.
- Downsizing the bureaucracy. My spiels about the folly of big government have been more than enough to shut down potential referenda for needless expansion here. In the words of Stan Lee, "'Nuff said."
- A smaller government, a greater people. Percentages aren't the only part of the equation here; I encourage the people of Libertatem to embrace their power by getting involved in the political process and standing against any attempt to deprive them of their political freedoms. I am dedicated to the principle of government as a partner, and not as a ruler.
- Reaching across party lines. I may be the founder of ACOP, but my running mate is a current member of the RLP and former member of many minority parties. Furthermore, I've worked with nations of various political parties, and seek to incorporate them into my administration should I somehow win.
But my strengths in these areas would have been nothing without you, the citizens of Libertatem. You have shown me the benefit of a team effort, and I wish to reciprocate that as best I can if I attain the Presidency.
I believe in teamwork. I believe in unity. I believe in freedom. I believe in Libertatem.
Caught this embarrassing gaffe in there! Or perhaps it's not a gaffe - and Condealism should be more accurately known as COMdealism?!
[B]Con/Prussia 2014 - will you risk it?[/B]
Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?
Landslide
No escape from reality
Open your eyes,
Look up to the skies and see,
I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy,
Because I'm easy come, easy go,
Little high, little low,
Anyway the wind blows doesn't really matter to me, to me.
I'm juuuuust a poooooor boy, I neeeed no sympathy
Caught this embarrassing gaffe in there!
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