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Albenia wrote:Also. I thank you. Using stuff you have taught me I have just won an argument on Minimum wage.

This idiot thought raising MW would help the workers. Too bad he was focused on the individual only and not the over-all system.

Nice job! *offers high five*

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Nice job! *offers high five*

*High fives*

I'm being coming Fiscally Conservative....YA-

OH GOD NO!

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:There you have it. The very nation who indicated that the two nations are valid citizens agrees with me. Pev, I believe this means both Ankha and Godisdead must be allowed to run.

Except that Anhka shouldn't be able to qualify on a moral and intelligent level. His sole allegiance isn't to this region, so he should prove his worth.

Albenia wrote:*High fives*

I'm being coming Fiscally Conservative....YA-

OH GOD NO!

Not as bad as you think, trust me.

Humpheria wrote:Except that Anhka shouldn't be able to qualify on a moral and intelligent level. His sole allegiance isn't to this region, so he should prove his worth.

I would imagine you wish I could have done the same.

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Humpheria wrote:Except that Anhka shouldn't be able to qualify on a moral and intelligent level. His sole allegiance isn't to this region, so he should prove his worth.

I move for a trial by combat.

[/joke]

Humpheria wrote:I'm very good at checking executive power.

Then Humpy, offer to me your fun way of twisting this into a presidential power check, consult the board, and I'll do what needs to be done. Nothings stopping you, but I'm not going to stand here and have you say my decisions were unjust without putting up a fight.

However, Ankha does need to resubmit an app SIMPLY because the app had "no interest in office" checked.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Not as bad as you think, trust me.

I would imagine you wish I could have done the same.

CI.

When you are called "The Hero of the Proletariat" in your region. Becoming right-wing begins to look bad......of course I link myself to Third way policies economically.

Humpheria wrote:Except that Anhka shouldn't be able to qualify on a moral and intelligent level. His sole allegiance isn't to this region, so he should prove his worth.

The CI should be treated the same way. As should I.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Not as bad as you think, trust me.

I would imagine you wish I could have done the same.

I'm not against Anhka getting citizenship. I'm against a puppet getting it after just waltzing in.

And to think this started because Pev suggested Ankha run for office. *facepalm*

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:And to think this started because Pev suggested that a communist should run for office. *facepalm*

Ficks'd

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:And to think this started because Pev suggested Ankha run for office. *facepalm*

They raised Cain over Alchandria too, but of course it was very downplayed because you know, Alchandria is not extremely different than the rest of us.

Albenia wrote:Ficks'd

It does sound a lot funnier that way. Doesn't sound at all like the Pev we know, haha

Muh Roads wrote:there is no law stating that my decisions were unjust.

The argument I am making is based upon The FRAUD Act's Section II:

"Section II

Clarify specific laws on puppet use

Subsection I

Any nation classified as a Citizen is entitled to the use of puppets

Subsection II

Said puppets ARE NOT Citizens, and do not have voting rights nor the right to stand for public office"

Therefore, any nation, [B]besides[/B] one that is on the registry of citizens, can not legally run for public office, regardless of who controls it.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:It does sound a lot funnier that way. Doesn't sound at all like the Pev we know, haha

Pev was abducted by aliens and replaced....

*Nods*

I want to talk to Mr. T again somewhat...

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:And to think this started because Pev suggested Ankha run for office. *facepalm*

Grounds for impeachment all hail president hump! Jk

Muh Roads wrote:Then Humpy, offer to me your fun way of twisting this into a presidential power check, consult the board, and I'll do what needs to be done. Nothings stopping you, but I'm not going to stand here and have you say my decisions were unjust without putting up a fight.

However, Ankha does need to resubmit an app SIMPLY because the app had "no interest in office" checked.

It was a joke referencing my power check in September. I'm not trying to detract from your excellent service as our Manager. You only followed what the law stated. I am saying I don't think he should be allowed.

The New United States wrote:The argument I am making is based upon The FRAUD Act's Section II:

"Section II

Clarify specific laws on puppet use

Subsection I

Any nation classified as a Citizen is entitled to the use of puppets

Subsection II

Said puppets ARE NOT Citizens, and do not have voting rights nor the right to stand for public office"

Therefore, any nation, [B]besides[/B] one that is on the registry of citizens, can not legally run for public office, regardless of who controls it.

But Muh Roads has changed the registry before to indicate a puppet switch. Section II only clarifies that a nation with multiple puppets cannot be multiple citizens.

The New United States wrote:The argument I am making is based upon The FRAUD Act's Section II:

"Section II

Clarify specific laws on puppet use

Subsection I

Any nation classified as a Citizen is entitled to the use of puppets

Subsection II

Said puppets ARE NOT Citizens, and do not have voting rights nor the right to stand for public office"

Therefore, any nation, [B]besides[/B] one that is on the registry of citizens, can not legally run for public office, regardless of who controls it.

It's not a puppet if they are switching their main nation.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Grounds for impeachment all hail president hump! Jk

Which one of us would be the First Spouse, me or you?

You, you and hump act more like an old married couple.

The Amarican Empire wrote:You, you and hump act more like an old married couple.

Lmao spilled my drink

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Which one of us would be the First Spouse, me or you?

All of us.....

A first, Second, Third, Fourth, Fifth, Six....

Holy crap. Humph, are you Mitt Romney?

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Lmao spilled my drink

...you gonna drink that?

Albenia wrote:All of us.....

A first, Second, Third, Fourth, Fifth, Six....

Holy crap. Humph, are you Mitt Romney?

Well, there's a reason they call him Humpy...hehehe...

Muh Roads wrote:...you gonna drink that?

drunk my spill

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I swear to drunk I'm not Godisdead

Muh Roads wrote:Spill my drunk

My drunk spill

I love you all equally.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:I swear to drunk I'm not Godisdead

I officer, swear drunk not I'm!

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:I swear to drunk I'm not Godisdead

I have a hat that is very similar to that joke you just made.

Miencraft wrote:I officer, swear drunk not I'm!

What seems to be the officer, problem?

Humpheria wrote:I love you all [B]equally[/B].

Communism detected

Humpheria wrote:I love you all equally.

That's not what you told me last night;)

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Communism detected

Defense systems. Engaged.

Muh Roads wrote:Defense systems. Engaged.

Withholding cuddles. Engaged.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Withholding cuddles. Engaged.

But I love CI cuddles. ♡ Engaged.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Sentinels attack!

That's right, the previous hour of RMB posts was actually the set-up to the most recent X-Men movie, now in theaters!

Muh Roads wrote:But I love CI cuddles. ♡ Engaged.

I meant from Humph. Not engaged, still single

So new fun topic. I had (and didn't finish) a sandwich with 1 pound of bacon. It's from a restaurant in mid state michigan called tonys diner. If your ever around Birch Run, MI GO THERE.

I see we are having a grand of gay time.

In 2 hours History Channel's World War's will air! First movie on history I'm excited for.

The Amarican Empire wrote:I see we are having a grand of gay time.

Now just to figure out which definition of gay I'm using.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Now just to figure out which definition of gay I'm using.

The gay one.

This guy and I broke Portal 2.

Fontes Iuris Germanici Antiqu wrote:In 2 hours History Channel's World War's will air! First movie on history I'm excited for.

I'm really excited for the mini series too. It looks really interesting!

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:I'm really excited for the mini series too. It looks really interesting!

For me the Stalin and Churchill story look good.

Fun fact: In Portal 2, at the bottom of the co-op hub world, there's a lamp post with a street sign on it.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/eisotopius/screenshot/576771735280583211

Hey y'all, question. Is FRAUD just an act of the House or has there been anything resembling it passed as an amendment? If so, could you direct me to that piece of legislation?

Humpheria wrote:FRAUD ACT

Interesting....most interesting....

What does everyone think of my new flag?

Fontes Iuris Germanici Antiqu wrote:What does everyone think of my new flag?

lol

Fontes Iuris Germanici Antiqu wrote:For me the Stalin and Churchill story look good.

They all look good, except Patton. I don't understand why we even need him. It's the four leaders, and an ok general. If they had to add a fifth story they should have used Eisenhower or MacArthur at least. Or why not have Keitel? They should have just done Churchill, Stalin, Roosevelt, and Hitler and that be it. I still have high hopes though.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:They all look good, except Patton. I don't understand why we even need him. It's the four leaders, and an ok general. If they had to add a fifth story they should have used Eisenhower or MacArthur at least. Or why not have Keitel? They should have just done Churchill, Stalin, Roosevelt, and Hitler and that be it. I still have high hopes though.

I think for a fifth story they should have do Emperor Heraheyto of Japan or Mussolini.

Fontes Iuris Germanici Antiqu wrote:I think for a fifth story they should have do Emperor Heraheyto of Japan or Mussolini.

I'd rather see Charles de Gaulle. Another good one might be Kai-Shek.

I actually like this Obama intro, even though the teleprompter was obvious

Sh*t sh*t sh*t, the poll is already closed and I wanted to change my vote. Who has won ?

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:Sh*t sh*t sh*t, the poll is already closed and I wanted to change my vote. Who has won ?

The poll is going to be remade after President Pevvania's decision on the fate of Anhka's campaign.

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:Sh*t sh*t sh*t, the poll is already closed and I wanted to change my vote. Who has won ?

There was a slight problem concerning the citizenship status of Ankha and possibly Godisdead. Therefore, no one won and the poll was taken down until the matter is resolved and a new poll can be put up.

Why leave this choice in the hands of one person? I think that 5 people(The Board) would be a better and more fair way to decide this.

Liberosia wrote:There was a slight problem concerning the citizenship status of Ankha and possibly Godisdead. Therefore, no one won and the poll was taken down until the matter is resolved and a new poll can be put up.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Why leave this choice in the hands of one person? I think that 5 people(The Board) would be a better and more fair way to decide this.

The Board is good to an extent but they are not the sole power in the region. I would love for the Board to be the sole administration, but we don't have the constitutional authority to do something like that. That lies in the President.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Why leave this choice in the hands of one person? I think that 5 people(The Board) would be a better and more fair way to decide this.

It sounds like a legal dispute, so this is a good suggestion. The courts should decide this matter.

Really Pev left it up to Rotgeheim. So if he ever gets on the dispute would go to his desk.

Humpheria wrote:Really Pev left it up to Rotgeheim. So if he ever gets on the dispute would go to his desk.

Or stay with Pev.

Humpheria wrote:The Board is good to an extent but they are not the sole power in the region. I would love for the Board to be the sole administration, but we don't have the constitutional authority to do something like that. That lies in the President.

Perhaps we can change that in June

Humpheria wrote:Except that Anhka shouldn't be able to qualify on a moral and intelligent level. His sole allegiance isn't to this region, so he should prove his worth.

In democracy, the people decide where to place their faith. Thanks.

Albenia wrote:The CI should be treated the same way. As should I.

Albenia wrote:The CI should be treated the same way. As should I.

Inconsistency is an invasion of my liberties and the freedoms of others. Laws and rules must be consistent, and shouldnt vary. HAd I been told before elections, that would be the only acceptable way.

Humpheria wrote:I'm not against Anhka getting citizenship. I'm against a puppet getting it after just waltzing in.

This is my main nation I assure you, but anyway, my other nation was a citizen. I just changed my name basically.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:But Muh Roads has changed the registry before to indicate a puppet switch. Section II only clarifies that a nation with multiple puppets cannot be multiple citizens.

Which makes sense. This is absurd, and must be resolved carefully. This decision is a matter of rights, and will put us down the slippery slope of if we are truly democratic.

Muh Roads wrote:It's not a puppet if they are switching their main nation.

^

Liberosia wrote:There was a slight problem concerning the citizenship status of Ankha and possibly Godisdead. Therefore, no one won and the poll was taken down until the matter is resolved and a new poll can be put up.

There shouldnt of been. If I am in fact elected, first thing I do is clean up that messy FRAUD act!

So, a valid explanation, please... Preferably from Humpy who is the devils advocate here...

June is going to be one busy month indeed.

Well guess what. I just said the most Right-Wing thing that "That's not because of Minimum wage that is because of other poor Government regulations on Business. Like I pointed out using both websites we posted. The Cons outweigh the pros..." I am becoming a Right-Wing Fiscal Conservative.

Why you do this to me Nationstates. The game that made me Liberal Fiscally is about to make me Conservative Fiscally.

I believe you should have been akin to the 30 day clause. So, I will not be able to argue anything predicated on the notion that you have already attained citizenship.

What, besides a one word error and your desire to be allowed a run which will drive your opposition to the law that could impede your rise to power in a region you once disavowed and called your enemy, do you find messy about the FRAUD Act?

Is anyone else watching World Wars on History?

The Amarican Empire wrote:Perhaps we can change that in June

As a member of the Board, I would not support such a vast expansion of the Board's power. Checks and balances is important and giving the Board supreme power would not be beneficial at all.

Humpheria wrote:I believe you should have been akin to the 30 day clause. So, I will not be able to argue anything predicated on the notion that you have already attained citizenship.

What, besides a one word error and your desire to be allowed a run which will drive your opposition to the law that could impede your rise to power in a region you once disavowed and called your enemy, do you find messy about the FRAUD Act?

I find inconsistency and over all fogginess. When you write something, it must be written right. AND, if you send one guy to jail. (no priors, no history) and then in the exact same place for the exact same crime the other guy goes free, HOW is that FAIR?

Albenia wrote:Well guess what. I just said the most Right-Wing thing that "That's not because of Minimum wage that is because of other poor Government regulations on Business. Like I pointed out using both websites we posted. The Cons outweigh the pros..." I am becoming a Right-Wing Fiscal Conservative.

Why you do this to me Nationstates. The game that made me Liberal Fiscally is about to make me Conservative Fiscally.

When one surrenders their mental processes to reason, only a libertarian/rightist bent on economics will follow. Praxeology is a valueless science, but philosophy isn't. It seems you are incorporating logic into your philosophy more and more; we did nothing but ask you to think, once you thought, the CORRECT conclusions followed.

Humpheria wrote:As a member of the Board, I would not support such a vast expansion of the Board's power. Checks and balances is important and giving the Board supreme power would not be beneficial at all.

Agreed, but anyway...

Because as the report that i posted a few weeks ago said, Fiscal Conservatives aka Capitalists and Social Liberals have a higher Iq then Social Conservatives and Economic Stateists.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Because as the report that i posted a few weeks ago said, Fiscal Conservatives aka Capitalists and Social Liberals have a higher Iq then Social Conservatives and Economic Stateists.

Oh really? That's Interesting......

Liberosia wrote:When one surrenders their mental processes to reason, only a libertarian/rightist bent on economics will follow. Praxeology is a valueless science, but philosophy isn't. It seems you are incorporating logic into your philosophy more and more; we did nothing but ask you to think, once you thought, the CORRECT conclusions followed.

Or is this the truth. I still support mixed economics and no full on for either side.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:Is anyone else watching World Wars on History?

U mean besides me?

Ankha wrote:I find inconsistency and over all fogginess. When you write something, it must be written right. AND, if you send one guy to jail. (no priors, no history) and then in the exact same place for the exact same crime the other guy goes free, HOW is that FAIR?

What specifically? What of this law, passed by the entirety of the region of Libertatem, born out of two separate attempts of voter fraud, and the establishment of a finite citizenship registrar, would you change.

Humpheria wrote:What specifically? What of this law, passed by the entirety of the region of Libertatem, born out of two separate attempts of voter fraud, and the establishment of a finite citizenship registrar, would you change.

Not change, dear sir, ADD.

Speaking of laws, has anyone really seen anything of Rotgeheim? As qualified as I'm sure he is for the job, he really hasn't done much other than solve issues.

Ankha wrote:Not change, dear sir, ADD.

Then what would you add?

In June, however, I will seek a very small amendment to change the line in which it states that all nations in the region have a vote in the House, as it is inconsistent with the FRAUD Act.

Ankha wrote:Not change, dear sir, ADD.

Miencraft wrote:Speaking of laws, has anyone really seen anything of Rotgeheim? As qualified as I'm sure he is for the job, he really hasn't done much other than solve issues.

Then what would you add?

Albenia wrote:Or is this the truth. I still support mixed economics and no full on for either side.

I'm not particularly concerned about your intellectual development. The mere exposure to new ideas and different conclusions about economics has created what I see as a massive shift for you. Provided your current moral premise, I can see you becoming a bleeding heart libertarian. There really is no justification for statism, my friend (I mean...uh...courts and stuff for all the minarchists out there.)

The Amarican Empire wrote:Perhaps we can change that in June

Even if I don't keep the Chair come June, believe me there are going to be lots of amendments from the Desk of Miencraft in the coming months.

Miencraft wrote:Speaking of laws, has anyone really seen anything of Rotgeheim? As qualified as I'm sure he is for the job, he really hasn't done much other than solve issues.

Then what would you add?

Rotgehiem seems rather inactive.

I would add something about swiching nations, though it tseemed fine for Godisdead and for myself. Pevv said ok, Muh Roads said fine, and I just find it rather annoying that it gets questioned after being used and is questioned right as the elections are happening. From what others had said, it seemed to be unspoken rule, but apparently not.SO, I would add a piece about this very circumstance.

Miencraft wrote:Even if I don't keep the Chair come June, believe me there are going to be lots of amendments from the Desk of Miencraft in the coming months.

Hopefully not calling for such large expansions in the Board's Power. I don't think I could support your bid for Chairman if you should seek the decimation of checks and balances.

Humpheria wrote:Hopefully not calling for such large expansions in the Board's Power. I don't think I could support your bid for Chairman if you should seek the decimation of checks and balances.

No, nothing of the sort. I like checks and balances.

Humpheria wrote:Hopefully not calling for such large expansions in the Board's Power. I don't think I could support your bid for Chairman if you should seek the decimation of checks and balances.

You can still support him. The executive branch will just use the veto power if his proposals are too outrageous.

Well, maybe a little, but nothing excessive.

Ankha wrote:Rotgehiem seems rather inactive.

I would add something about swiching nations, though it tseemed fine for Godisdead and for myself. Pevv said ok, Muh Roads said fine, and I just find it rather annoying that it gets questioned after being used and is questioned right as the elections are happening. From what others had said, it seemed to be unspoken rule, but apparently not.SO, I would add a piece about this very circumstance.

So you would add one thing? Mere posts ago you made it appear as I had written the whole damn thing in red crayon misspelling things and using cherub-esque mistakes.

Ankha wrote: If I am in fact elected, first thing I do is clean up that messy FRAUD act!

So, a valid explanation, please... Preferably from Humpy who is the devils advocate here...

One thing?

Liberosia wrote:You can still support him. The executive branch will just use the veto power if his proposals are too outrageous.

I just don't like the idea of one branch being too powerful. You wrote the constitution, you can clearly see that the Board was not intended to be the supreme council of Libertatem.

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