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Region: Libertatem
A reverse Confederate flag. Not bad.
Yay, it's not a pro-Confederate flag. XD Good thing, too.
You people make my head hurt. We have declared war on the disgusting disease that is Communism. We need not to worry ourselves with inter-Regional bickering, for that is what will bring this Great Region down around our ears. We must band together. We are not separate nations, we are a united Region; united to bring down Communism. It is only through us working together that we will destroy Communism once and for all. I call upon the Board and the WAD to immediately begin work on forming alliances with other Anti-Communist Regions and get involved in raiding.
We. Must. Work. Together. No more flooding each other with telegrams, demanding you endorse him or her or whoever.
God Bless The Right
Cool story bro
That just made me want to relax even more.
AmericanRight makes an excellent point.
Brb, trying to end a conflict
Back. All hail copying and pasting from a Word document.
GAHOE
Hmm.
So many Idealism and CI.
What can I say? I'm omnipresent.
Yep.
1:Knock, knock.
2: Who"s there?
1: John Smith
2: John Smith who?
1: I already told you my last name.
1:Do you want to hear the lamest joke in the world?
2:Yes.
1:Do you want to hear it again?
I promise it has nothing to do with Bomonia's joke. You'll figure out the joke eventually if you just look at this post for a while.
Two guys walk into a bar. The third one ducks.
Oh, CI, I had to read that twice. Haha, wow.
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A guy walks into a bar and orders an ice pack.
A priest, a rabbi, and a minister walks into a bar...
A man walks into a bar and notices a donkey standing in the corner..
A blind lawyer walks into a bar.
A Mexican Rabbi walks into a Nightclub.........
Tommorow in my nation, it is the day to remember all who fought in Hanseldorf at the beginning of the Einsievian War. 1935-1940
It's official, Here in the ISA we've elected Barry Goldwater!!
I liked Barry, pretty cool guy. Great conservative. Although, he was more like a modern libertarian.
I liked him too and, even though I wasn't alive then, I was sad when he only won 4 states against that snake LBJ.
LBJ was America's second socialist president...not only that, he was a hypocrite as well.
Who was the first? Hoover? FDR?
Not Hoover, my friend, it was Franklin Roosevelt, although there have been some near-socialist idealogues as president before him (for example, Teddy Roosevelt).
Hoover was a republican, lol.
Assuming both Wilson and FDR were socialists (which they practically were), that would make LBJ third.
I don't know if Wilson was really a socialist, he seemed more of a fascist/socialist mix to me. I think both Roosevelts were, though. So yeah, LBJ might be the third. He was, however, the worst one we've had until Barrack got into office.
Obama is the WORST President we've ever had!
It's definitely safe to say that, Einsiev. I fear for the future of the nation.
Anyway, Teddy Roosevelt wasn't all bad (he was a Republican after all, and allegedly coined one of my favorite political expressions).
Yes, he is pretty bad, but I think FDR and LBJ were also pretty bad as well.
If Al Gore was elected, think of the crap he would of pulled.
I'm glad fearmonger John Kerry wasn't elected in '04, on top of that.
No way, we had a full Republican Congress from 2002-2006...it would have been a Clinton situation instead where the Republicans were good and Gore took all the credit.
I just wanna make one point, just because you were/are a republican doesn't mean you are a conservative. Lincoln definantly was not a conservative in my view the same as Hoover and Boehner. I believe though, in my own point of view, that such democrats as JFK were some of the early conservatives but Goldwater definantly sparked conservatism in the republican party and Reagan carried out the conservative message.
JFK was not a bad president, but he wasn't a legit conservative (expansion of Social Security). Hoover messed with the economy and caused the Depression, Lincoln was a fail (yeah he saved the "Union", hooray, states' rights deaths), and Boehner is, well, an "establishment conservative".
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No problem...everyone idolizes Lincoln, but if you can guess it from my name and my flag, I don't. He was one of the first real big government guys around.
Thank you for agreeing, and expanding, upon my message.
Had to delete my previous message do to poor sentence structure.
The way I see it, Hoover just happened to be in office when the depression struck. The most likely cause: An incredibly large amount of public debt and overspending, not to mention mass paranoia during a routine market drop.
Well I wasn't alive back then but from what I, and Mark Levin, have learned is that hoover laid the foundation for FDR to expand government.
Yeah; by being the scapegoat for a lack of intelligence among the populace...not that there was anything he could have done.
Hoover was not as socialist/Keynesian as FDR, but he did indeed lay the foundation with various stimulus projects and protectionist trade laws.
I'm off to clean Bomonia's mess.
What did he do?
He conducted illegal recruitment maneuvers without my consent.
Hopefully, I managed to remedy the problem.
Anyway, I've got to get off now. Inform me via telegram if anyone else attempts to devalue our region's name.
I always loved Reagan, like, adored him because Reagan was just such a huge character, but then I read about what a messy presidency he had and it was a bit like losing a brother.
I don't understand why in national polls lincoln,FDR, and Washington tend to lead in the polls but real heros like Goldwater,Perot, and Reagan are never acknowledged. Just because you aren't president doesn't mean you can't have a big effect on the world thats why I mentioned Goldwater and Perot.
If there's a US president I would have wanted to meet, it would have been either Washington, John Adams or Reagan.
Thomas Jefferson and Ronald Reagan would be two U.S. presidents I'd like to time travel in order to meet.
Reagan was an amazing President. I actually wrote a paper on his policies and it's what made me a libertarian. Snabagag, what you call messy, I call a miracle. The man got inflation down, cut the taxes, and deregulated. The only road block was the Democratic House that blocked the spending cuts Reagan proposed through the Grace Commission.
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Welcome back Righteous America.
( my idea we have a an rp war loserz has to publicly apologize on the winners RMB and feeder regions and must state it's defeat on its Fact book and that they were wrong and there sorry) only 4 nations only from each side. This will gain my peace.
No offense, but an RP war is a terrible idea. (Plus, we already apologized. That was the whole point of the super-long RMB post Righteous America left.)
UFA, I am failing to see how starting a new and different war can end the current war and make it so that there is no more war? RP wars are, also, aggravating...come on people (from the Federal Islands), do I need to throw olive branches at you?
I will only condone an RP war if there are 72 nations on each side.
...Problem?
CI, let's not give up hope...there may be some rationality left in the Fed Islands.
Hey, they're a loudly-proclaimed anti-communist region. I'm certain there is.
I'm not sure they all think that way...the weird thing is, the conservatives in that region are gunning for war and the liberals are sort of promoting peace (all though not all of them, of course). Just look at Texacoe (93% tax rate...practically theft): he's pushing for peace. I don't know if they're all anti-communist....
Hey, if it says in their World Factbook Entry that they kick all communists out,
then it stands to reason that we all give them the benefit of the doubt.
You know the U.S. Government can actually tax you 100% as long as they provide the taxed benefits in return. Source: John Stossel.
If they were to introduce an 100% tax rate, I'd declare myself a sovereign citizen despite the legal instability of being such.
Yes, ISA, that is a fact. We're not all really free because the Congress and the Federal government control the cheque book.
I have a crazy idea. What if we, the people, actually stood up for our rights rather than letting the government encroach upon each and every single one, day by day?
Because the American people are now addicted to socialism, much like everyone else on the earth. The Welfare, Nanny, and Regulatory state does that to a people. We were all good until FDR had to come and screw us all over...
Wait, if the federal government can practically manipulate human nature to make people crave subjugation, then why is it that I desire absolute freedoms and rights?
Because there are two kinds of people: subjects and citizens. Many different factors can contribute to subjugation, but the Federal government only needs to subjugate enough people. After that, they are either elected or supported and can "rob Peter to pay Paul" and as it goes "they can always count on Paul's support". You may want libertarianism, but you are drowned among the many socialist people residing in this glorious nation.
If that many people are that well ingrained into socialism, maybe I should focus less on freeing them and focus more on getting people who do care about liberty as far away from the government's reach as possible. After all, why save someone who doesn't want to be saved? Perhaps they should have the freedom FROM freedom, if they want it so badly.
Perhaps...this is why I'm an advocate of secession rights and the rights of the citizen to throw off such destructive government.
So, we need to secede where others have failed? *ba dum tsk*
We still have a chance to save the nation democratically. The danger will be when 51% of the population is, more or less, on the Welfare State. After that, we will become Greece.
...I'm not entirely sure the pendulum is going to swing back to the political right this time around.
Anything's possible.
Yep, that's why electing Obama may prove to be a blessing. He'll put the nation on a ride straight to hell, and then maybe they'll choose a real liberal (the old meaning of it, you americanos) like Ron Paul. A statist establishment conservative like Romney wouldn't fix anything, maybe save the US enough for them to have the confidence to elect another socialist next.
I agree, Capitalist Minarchy. It's not even conservatism or liberalism that's the threat today, it's statism, which is currently three miles up the intestine of most every politician in the US.
Also, I have the lowest police ratio in the region. Nice.
I have too many police.
Oh well.
Theres nothing wrong with having police.
I am the ambassador of the Region of industrious nations.
Welcome to Libertatem then Mr.Ambassador.
Thank you , We are here to support you in your peace treaty.
I'm second, fourth, and fifth in least number of police. :)
I am here as the ambassador (singular for the time being) of The Federal Islands. I also represent, in part, the interests of Brauistan, of whom this nation is a protectorate. Vicicorpus represents the ground-up creation of a Vicicorporate state, as Brauistan is by loose definitions. I hope it represents the peaceful intentions of this endevour.
Welcome (back-ish). What terms of the peace deal would you first like to discuss?
I made the following statement on the RMB of Fed. Is, and, having been approved, I make it here.:::
In reply, and seeking agreement from all Federal Islands nations, I would like to say this-
I refuse to accept this treaty, whoever it is backed by, because, while it may have been offered with the consultation of all members of the Libertatem government, it was not agreed by the people of TFI. It is therefore an ultimatum, and frankly, is worded as a veiled threat. The sense of superiority in Libertatum is truly staggering, given that you seem to think you are in the position of victor, either prior to, or as a result of offering this treaty. No nation has won or lost this cold war, so you should not open negotiations with a finalised peace treaty like you have.
I am, however, absolutely willing to open NEGOTIATIONS with Libertatem, and come to a MUTUALLY AGREED peace and co-operation deal.
:::::: I therefore, on behalf of The Federal Islands, refuse you treaty, but open up the possibility instead for a mutually agreed pact.
Consider our deal thrown away. We were ready to offer you a mercy with terms predecided, but now you will have to negotiate if you are to receive the same benefits. On which aspect of a proposed peace deal would you like to begin?
Let's start with embassy requests. If a peace deal is to succeed, will an embassy be re-established between our two regions? If so, will each region send an ambassador?
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Clearly, as we are both anti-communist regions, we do not merely wish to remain tolerated by one another, but strong allies, as many nations on both sides have mentioned. Therefore, while we accept the embassy request, all other matters must be extensively considered, if not completely amended. With regards to spies, and to military affairs, I suggest the following- that we conduct, as has been suggested internally in the F.I, military maneuvers, wargames. This includes the maintenance of spies within one anothers region to test counter intelligence, alongside the testing of willing militaries either on Nationstates forums or offside. Any spies that do not wish to remain so would remain within their host region, declared openly as ambassadors to their home region.
Of course, we would also ask that we be confirmed as the allies of your nation, providing we do likewise, and that a Mutual Protection pact be declared. This could, potentially, be expanded into an official Anti-Comintern (use a different name if you want) Pact, among many nations. With regards recruitment too, combined advertisement for the anti-communist regions would be more than welcome.
Finally, we come to the rather unfortunate matter of the ideological differences between the two regions, particularly the acceptance of Statism in The Federal Islands. This is where we must accept our diversity, and I ask that any nation that may be removed from the region of Libertatem be first directed to TFI, and my party. I am also entirely prepared to have Vicicorpus, a nation that I hope will be the finest example of 'Minarchist Statism', remain within Libertatem as ambassador, and a token of peace.
Brauistan
Alright, so embassy? Check.
Ambassadors? Check.
Issues to be determined:
Espionage
Military affairs
Official alliance
Mutual protection
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...Anything else?
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Also, I may as well represent Libertatem in any peace discussions (although any nation can drop in if they'd like). Any objections?
You forgot ideological differences. While I do not wish to make to much of it, I would like it made clear that as allies, TFI are open to all statists that Libertatem does not accept.
The anti-statist/fascist/other thing is out of date - the executive decision was overturned. We currently have a loudly-proclaimed fascist as our Manager of Military Affairs, and do not reject the presence of any such nations as long as they're against communism.
What about the Federal Islands? Are any types of nations banned from there other than communists?
No nations are banned, other than the Communists. If the anti-statist policy has been overturned, then I see no reason why we should not be allies, barring of course the general agreement of the above mentioned areas of discussion. I would however point out discussion earlier today on your RMB, with you founder Liberosia stating the following: "It's not even conservatism or liberalism that's the threat today, it's statism, which is currently three miles up the intestine of most every politician in the US." With this statement in mind, I will amend the earlier request- TFI are open to all statist the do not feel accepted in Libertatem.
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