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Boes Othan wrote:All my politicians compete in beauty pageants in order to get nominated for office.

My meteorologists wear jewelry; how should I feel about this?

Rateria

Czekania wrote:My meteorologists wear jewelry; how should I feel about this?

Depends on what kind. Is it rose gold? Silver? Are they earrings? Necklaces?

The real question is, why isn't it raining diamonds?

Boes Othan wrote:Depends on what kind. Is it rose gold? Silver? Are they earrings? Necklaces?

The real question is, why isn't it raining diamonds?

But that's the thing, those are part of the jewelry

The Senate session is commencing

Rateria, Libiceland, Jadentopian Order

Nothing is convincing me to trim my pubic hair more than having to pull it all out of my dick after swimming

Rateria, Libiceland

[B]BREAKING: Senate votes unanimously to reelect Pevvania as Speaker, confirms CFN sister region charter 4-1[/B]

Rateria, Libiceland, Jadentopian Order

[B]BREAKING: SENATE CONFIRMS HYDERBOURG AS CHANCELLOR OF STATE, 4-1; AGREES TO LEAVE THE ISSUE OF THE MAP TO THE WIDER REGION[/B]

Rateria, Jadentopian Order

As I told the Senate today, I am honoured to serve as your Speaker. I will do my best to carry the torch of liberty and always vote for what is right. Growth, limited government and peace through strength!

Rateria, Libiceland

Also we need to do some recruiting

Rateria, Libiceland

On that note, I'd like to quote the late, great Colonel Sanders:

"I'm to drunk, to taste this chicken"

Pevvania, Republic Of Minerva, Rateria, Fascist Dred

Pevvania wrote:Also we need to do some recruiting

is NS+ working?

The Aradites wrote:is NS+ working?

Not sure.

I'll be chilling while you guys go recruit more people

NS++ is working fine, I just need officers for the recruitment thingy

Can countries go to war

Czekania wrote:Can countries go to war

That's what RP is for. The game mechanics don't include war.

The Aradites wrote:is NS+ working?

It was updated a little bit ago but I have a feeling it'll just fall into disrepair again.

Pokémon Breeder Galen, I hate you more than Styrofoam.

The United States Of Patriots, Czekania

And f*ck Heracross too.

Czekania

BLOODY HELL SINCE WHEN HAVE I BEEN THE WA DELEGATE?

Auxorii, Libiceland

Inissbeln wrote:BLOODY HELL SINCE WHEN HAVE I BEEN THE WA DELEGATE?

Since 5 days ago

Lord Jesus it's a fire

Auxorii

Superman is an illegal immigrant and should be deported.

Rateria, Fascist Dred

Ok chill out bud, Injustice League is 4 months from now

Pevvania, Republic Of Minerva, Rateria

As a member of the LGBTQA* community, I think the issues surrounding it are entirely overblown. Members of this community account for 4.1% of the population, yet so many people treat gay rights as if it's bigger than the civil rights movement. They've got marriage rights, they've got equal protection under the law - let's move on!

*A for Australian

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Libiceland, Jadentopian Order

Pevvania wrote:*A for Australian

We need to legalize kangaroo-human marriage so that Pevv can marry the hot kangaroo girl of his dreams.

Miencraft, Pevvania, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Venomringo, Libiceland

Pevvania wrote:As a member of the LGBTQA* community, I think the issues surrounding it are entirely overblown. Members of this community account for 4.1% of the population, yet so many people treat gay rights as if it's bigger than the civil rights movement. They've got marriage rights, they've got equal protection under the law - let's move on!

*A for Australian

But nonbinary rights tho

Oh wait, nonbinary genders don't exist.

Pevvania, The United States Of Patriots, Venomringo, Libiceland

Jadentopian Order wrote:We need to legalize kangaroo-human marriage so that Pevv can marry the hot kangaroo girl of his dreams.

Furry f#cker

Rateria, Libiceland

Jadentopian Order wrote:We need to legalize kangaroo-human marriage so that Pevv can marry the hot kangaroo girl of his dreams.

Finally, someone who understands my plight.

Miencraft, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Libiceland, Jadentopian Order

Narland wrote:

In the 4th grade my teacher confiscated a FEE (Foundation for Economic Education) book from me. From the after school conversation, I realized that the sole aim of my teacher was to turn me into a good little mind-numbed socialist. Upon returning home I begged to be home-schooled, but that was back when only Hippies, Beatniks, Communists, Atheists, missionaries or military personell in foreign countries home-schooled. I lived with my parents at the time and they thought I was crazy.

Fortunately there were 5 of us (six if you included the girl who was smarter and more intimidating) in Mr. Keynes class who had already completed the grade school curricula. We got taken to the high school for math and chemistry classes but during rest of Mr. Keynes class we mostly read or went to the library to play RPGs. We were prolific readers and there was an excellent bookstore nearby that would "loan" books to "evaluate" or recommend books from the library to read like Road to Serfdom, Socialism by MIses, The God That Failed, Masters of Deceit, None Dare Call It Treason, None Dare Call It Conspiracy, The Naked Communist, The Naked Capitalist, and their own -- Tragedy and Hope, Mein Kampf, Das Capital, the Communist Manifesto, Mao's Silly Book, all the atrocious works of John Dewey to deconstruct. At the end of the school year he tallied the class to see how many believed in which principles, and none of us favored Socialism. For some reason the teacher was glad to see us go. :)

When I think of how public school have robbed my generation and later of the necessary tools to think, do, and be self-fulfilling and self-governing free individuals in a free society I try to do a bit more to turn the tide of despotism by encouraging good education over bad schooling. Home-schooling with the right curricula is priceless. Homeschooling with comprable textbooks to the public schools and parental input is still superior and to be encouraged.

Man!!! thats an awesome story. It basically proves everything home-schooler's think about public school. I'm glad their are people like you that take the time to find out what really is happening.

Go Narland!!!

Narland wrote:

Road to Serfdom, Socialism by MIses, The God That Failed, Masters of Deceit, None Dare Call It Treason, None Dare Call It Conspiracy, The Naked Communist, The Naked Capitalist, and their own -- Tragedy and Hope, Mein Kampf, Das Capital, the Communist Manifesto, Mao's Silly Book, all the atrocious works of John Dewey to deconstruct. :).

And Wow! I thought I read a lot.

P.S. have you ever read whatever happened to justice By Richard Maybury. it's One of my favorite books. after what you said I think you would enjoy it.

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Libiceland

Reagan choosing to nominate George Bush as his VP nominee has had huge consequences. He should have gone with Jack Kemp, who he was considering anyway. Bush would've likely retired, and retired the Bush Dynasty with him, Republicans would've still won in an enormous landslide (Kemp polled very well in the Northeast), Kemp would've gone on to be elected to one or even two terms as Pres, better economic policy and balanced budgets, no Iraq War and neo-conservatism, and, who knows, maybe no Great Recession.

Miencraft, Narland, Rateria, Libiceland

Another reason Trump is the God Emperor: he's open to a return to the gold standard.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/ralphbenko/2017/02/25/president-trump-replace-the-dollar-with-gold-as-the-global-currency-to-make-america-great-again/amp/

Narland

Pevvania wrote:Another reason Trump is the God Emperor: he's open to a return to the gold standard.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/ralphbenko/2017/02/25/president-trump-replace-the-dollar-with-gold-as-the-global-currency-to-make-america-great-again/amp/

Calm down, big fella. Trump ain't all that

Narland, Rateria

Czekania wrote:Calm down, big fella. Trump ain't all that

You cant argue with Dear Leader.

Pevvania, The United States Of Patriots

Republic Of Minerva wrote:You cant argue with Dear Leader.

Your dear leader, not mine

If we're talking about Public schooling vs Home, I'd like to put my two cents in.

Not once in my entire life have I had a teacher that tried to censor political/personal views. In fact, many of them actually encouraged me to develop then. For example, when I was reading Orwell's works back in 7th/8th grade, good portion of my teachers reccomended me other books like Brave New World that were similar.

In addition, a very good portion of my teachers have been some of the most important people in my life. My freshmen and sophomore history teachers were not just amazing people who encouraged me to take AP History courses and learn more, but also managed to make the material that we were being taught interesting.

Obviously, the school curriculum is bad. I'm not even trying to argue that its not, but that's why AP classes exist. AP classes are based on a national college level curriculum, so you get a pretty advanced level of learning. And if you want to know about how great AP teachers can be, ask Venom about who Mr. Abbott is.

You guys are seriously giving public schooling more sh*t than you need to. I'm not even a good student and I'm sitting here defending it.

Narland, Rateria, Venomringo, Libiceland

Jadentopian Order wrote:If we're talking about Public schooling vs Home, I'd like to put my two cents in.

Not once in my entire life have I had a teacher that tried to censor political/personal views. In fact, many of them actually encouraged me to develop then. For example, when I was reading Orwell's works back in 7th/8th grade, good portion of my teachers reccomended me other books like Brave New World that were similar.

In addition, a very good portion of my teachers have been some of the most important people in my life. My freshmen and sophomore history teachers were not just amazing people who encouraged me to take AP History courses and learn more, but also managed to make the material that we were being taught interesting.

Obviously, the school curriculum is bad. I'm not even trying to argue that its not, but that's why AP classes exist. AP classes are based on a national college level curriculum, so you get a pretty advanced level of learning. And if you want to know about how great AP teachers can be, ask Venom about who Mr. Abbott is.

You guys are seriously giving public schooling more sh*t than you need to. I'm not even a good student and I'm sitting here defending it.

Sorry if it looked like we thought public schools were all evil.

Let me explain. public schools are often very good and many people become very successful because of them. and the teachers are not always bad in fact some of the best teachers I know teach at public schools.

But what I'm saying is that public schools (because they are funded by government) are more prone to Statist views. We were only saying that we think private schooling is more efficient.

But I will argue that public schools, no matter how much good they do, are a form of legal plunder. And I personally believe they shouldn't exist.

Narland, Rateria, Libiceland

Hey we should do a poll,

Public School vs. Home School/Private Schooling

Jadentopian Order wrote:If we're talking about Public schooling vs Home, I'd like to put my two cents in.

Not once in my entire life have I had a teacher that tried to censor political/personal views. In fact, many of them actually encouraged me to develop then. For example, when I was reading Orwell's works back in 7th/8th grade, good portion of my teachers recommended me other books like Brave New World that were similar.

In addition, a very good portion of my teachers have been some of the most important people in my life. My freshmen and sophomore history teachers were not just amazing people who encouraged me to take AP History courses and learn more, but also managed to make the material that we were being taught interesting.

Obviously, the school curriculum is bad. I'm not even trying to argue that its not, but that's why AP classes exist. AP classes are based on a national college level curriculum, so you get a pretty advanced level of learning. And if you want to know about how great AP teachers can be, ask Venom about who Mr. Abbott is.

You guys are seriously giving public schooling more sh*t than you need to. I'm not even a good student and I'm sitting here defending it.

You guys are really giving public school a lot more crap than it deserves...Public schooling, or at least the one I am offered in Virginia, I think, is fantastic. I have had fantastic teachers that encourage independent and critical thinking to develop argumentation skills among other methods of analytical thinking, so, for example, the AP World History course I took this year was absolutely phenomenal. My teacher, Mr. Abbott, was a liberal, but not once did he shove his opinion down your throat or include it in his lectures, instead, he discusses political opinions with you if you want to outside of class or during some other downtime and they are amazing discussions. AP classes are a godsend because they allow for more independent learning with the teacher only being there to teach how to source information and documents from history or even from the news. However, I believe that public schooling should be handed back to the states, so schools and counties can decide who gets hired and payed based on skill, rather than a minimum standard. Not once have I ever encountered a curriculum or teacher who displayed these "statist" views and tried to censor information, and I think cases of that happening is in the loud minority, not majority.

Narland, Auxorii, Rateria, Libiceland, Pulceria

Here's the things, the teachers in public school want to teach. They want to make that difference in a kid's life. That's why they do it. They don't take it to deal with bratty kids, take sh*t pay, and low health benefits. They like teaching. God bless them. The only thing that should be changed is getting rid of common core so teachers can actually teach their potential. They're restricted a lot of the times.

Miencraft, Narland, Rateria, Venomringo, Libiceland, Jadentopian Order

Auxorii wrote:Here's the things, the teachers in public school want to teach. They want to make that difference in a kid's life. That's why they do it. They don't take it to deal with bratty kids, take sh*t pay, and low health benefits. They like teaching. God bless them. The only thing that should be changed is getting rid of common core so teachers can actually teach their potential. They're restricted a lot of the times.

Yes, that's why I love AP classes once again! They only follow a curriculum based on what the Collegeboard sets, not the national government.

Narland, Auxorii, Rateria, Sidon And Bosanova

Venomringo wrote:Yes, that's why I love AP classes once again! They only follow a curriculum based on what the Collegeboard sets, not the national government.

The only problem is that the College Board has a monopoly on 'em. They're not as bad as regular high school courses, assuming the teacher is good - and I've had some really crappy teachers even in AP - but, still, it'd be nice to see some private educational companies providing their own alternatives.

Narland, Auxorii, Rateria, Venomringo

Auxorii wrote:Here's the things, the teachers in public school want to teach. They want to make that difference in a kid's life. That's why they do it. They don't take it to deal with bratty kids, take sh*t pay, and low health benefits. They like teaching. God bless them. The only thing that should be changed is getting rid of common core so teachers can actually teach their potential. They're restricted a lot of the times.

I have nothing against the teachers. its the curriculum and the government funding that makes me against public schools.

In fact my favorite teacher was going to be a public school teacher until he found out about the home schooling community in Utah.

Narland, The United States Of Patriots

Post self-deleted by Hyderbourg.

Golmaal is back again!

If Condy was still here he'd be excoriating you all for your public school propaganda.

Jadentopian Order

Pevvania wrote:If Condy was still here he'd be excoriating you all for your public school propaganda.

https://web.archive.org/web/20150128015249/http://vsconformity.blogspot.com:80/2015/01/public-schools-reflect-soviet-era.html

never forget

Pevvania, Narland, Jadentopian Order

Banned teenage girls from going to schhool on a whim. Also, an issue over how commas are used. Very important decisions in Boes Othan.

Rateria

Boes Othan wrote:Banned teenage girls from going to schhool on a whim. Also, an issue over how commas are used. Very important decisions in Boes Othan.

Who are you

Auxorii, Rateria

I support Donald Trump for the same reason I don't support Hillary Clinton: I don't like Hillary Clinton.

The States Of Balloon wrote:Who are you

I am everyone and no one.

Rateria

Boes Othan wrote:I am everyone and no one.

go away

The States Of Balloon wrote:go away

Nah.

Pevvania, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

My friend: Are you up to date on those spicy memes

Me: Yeah fam

My mind: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rjo--NjV3FA

Boes Othan wrote:I am everyone and no one.

I am he as you are he as you are me

And we are all together

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Boes Othan

I was going to do work but then I got addicted to four games.

I will never have to take another Spanish class again

Narland, Libiceland, Czekania

A note to WA members.

There is a resolution to commend Drasnia before the Security Counsel.

Drasnia's support of his regional founder when he dissolved the regional Supreme Court of Capitalist Paradise is extremely distasteful. This took place because a court case was going badly for the founder and regional government. That court still has vacant seats to this day.

That once great region never recovered from the founder's coup. Long time nations contributing to Nation States on a daily basis simply gave up and quit. The damage is done.

I cannot in good conscience support any praise for Drasnia after that nation's support for the founder's stomping of the rightfully elected Supreme Court. I ask those of you voting in the WA to consider this matter when casting your vote.

I'm a libertarian that supports the travel ban because a) Islamists are savages, b) vetting for refugees is not tight enough and c) border control is a crucial function of the minarchist government. Islam apologists BTFO

Libiceland

Pevvania wrote:I'm a libertarian that supports the travel ban because a) Islamists are savages, b) vetting for refugees is not tight enough and c) border control is a crucial function of the minarchist government. Islam apologists BTFO

Also seriously the travel ban was specifically on people coming on from a selection of countries, all of which are or have been state sponsors of terror, and were identified by the goddamn Obama administration as being potentially dangerous.

It's not as if Trump went "well let's just ban all Muslims from the country". More like "hey let's ban everyone coming in from these specific places because they're potentially dangerous and we can't do thorough enough background checks".

Pevvania, Narland, The United States Of Patriots, Libiceland

Miencraft wrote:Also seriously the travel ban was specifically on people coming on from a selection of countries, all of which are or have been state sponsors of terror, and were identified by the goddamn Obama administration as being potentially dangerous.

It's not as if Trump went "well let's just ban all Muslims from the country". More like "hey let's ban everyone coming in from these specific places because they're potentially dangerous and we can't do thorough enough background checks".

Well, he did call for a Muslim ban in 2015, and even if this is a watered down attempt to implement that, it doesn't matter, because the executive has authority to suspend migration from countries for national security purposes (and that's from a Clinton-era law). If this was a Muslim ban it would apply to all 40 Muslim majority countries.

Miencraft, Hyderbourg

Apparently "Racial Discrimination" =/= "Racism"

This is just a way for non-white liberals to avoid being called out for their racism.

I don't have problems, and to think I do invalidates the entire identity of LGBTs and POCs. I am the only person who can be racist, sexist, homophobic or transphobic. I am always the problem, and I am always wrong. I am not allowed to have an opinion, because it will be wrong and offensive. I cannot choose who I date or be friends with. I don't deserve a job or property. I can't argue with marginalized individuals even if they are wrong (but they are never wrong, I am wrong,) because that is oppressive. I will rape every woman I see and lynch every minority I see unless I am kept on a short leash. I am a white cis male, and I do not matter.

Thanks liberals, I feel empowered.

I feel so ashamed and disgusted at the 40% of Britons that voted for Corbyn, an evil, socialist, antisemitic, terrorist sympathiser who condones ideologies that have resulted in the deaths of millions. Bernie Sanders is contemptible as well, but not quite as bad, because he didn't shill as much for terrorist organisations and he doesn't support antisemitism.

Narland, Republic Of Minerva, Rateria, Hyderbourg, Fascist Dred, Libiceland

BEHOLD! YOUR BELOVED GOD HAS RETURNED! BOW TO ME NOW!

Republic Of Minerva, Rateria

The States Of Balloon wrote:I don't have problems, and to think I do invalidates the entire identity of LGBTs and POCs. I am the only person who can be racist, sexist, homophobic or transphobic. I am always the problem, and I am always wrong. I am not allowed to have an opinion, because it will be wrong and offensive. I cannot choose who I date or be friends with. I don't deserve a job or property. I can't argue with marginalized individuals even if they are wrong (but they are never wrong, I am wrong,) because that is oppressive. I will rape every woman I see and lynch every minority I see unless I am kept on a short leash. I am a white cis male, and I do not matter.

New copypasta

islamists are savages =/= everyone coming from an islamic country is a savage

Miencraft, Narland, Hyderbourg

Pevvania wrote:I'm a libertarian that supports the travel ban because a) Islamists are savages....

Despite my good faith in Pevvania. and my support of travel bans. I must ask why do you think "Islamist's are savages"?

Rateria, Hyderbourg

Pulceria wrote:Despite my good faith in Pevvania. and my support of travel bans. I must ask why do you think "Islamist's are savages"?

Islamists is not the same thing as muslims

Miencraft, Pevvania, Rateria, Hyderbourg, The United States Of Patriots, Venomringo, Fascist Dred

Pulceria wrote:Despite my good faith in Pevvania. and my support of travel bans. I must ask why do you think "Islamist's are savages"?

As Libiceland said, Muslims and Islamists are not the same thing. If you're an Islamist, you're necessarily an authoritarian who believes in expanding political Islam by force.

Miencraft, Rateria, Hyderbourg, The United States Of Patriots, Fascist Dred, Libiceland, Jadentopian Order

Pulceria wrote:Despite my good faith in Pevvania. and my support of travel bans. I must ask why do you think "Islamist's are savages"?

Islamists are the Islamic extremists who think Sharia Law is not only acceptable, but should be spread, by force if necessary; that apostasy, homosexuality, heathenry, and anything else they decide is a sin, should be punished by death; that the Israelis should be extincted; that it's okay to force people to convert to your faith; that women should be subjugated; that they should kill as many people as possible, and themselves, to please their god... There's a long list of reasons as to why they're stuck in the Stone Age. The normal, moderate Muslims aren't a threat because they actually accept how modern society works and fit into it, instead of trying to force a perverted view of society that has no place on Earth.

Pevvania, Narland, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Venomringo, Fascist Dred, Jadentopian Order

Pevvania wrote:As Libiceland said, Muslims and Islamists are not the same thing. If you're an Islamist, you're necessarily an authoritarian who believes in expanding political Islam by force.

I don't believe anyone is a savage (except the very extreme few). I beleive "all generalizations are false". That's why I prefer the term confused.

Though I will agree that the Islamist's beliefs, are quite savage. But not the people themselves.

P.S. This is just my personal happy belief.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:islamists are savages =/= everyone coming from an islamic country is a savage

So the virtue-signalling liberals and apologists tell us. Yet according to Pew Research, which regularly conducts polls of Muslims around the world, overwhelming majorities amongst the Muslim populations of most Islamic countries support making sharia the official law of their countries: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/05/26/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/

And the travel ban doesn't imply that everyone from the selected countries are bad people. It just recognises that these countries are especially proficient at producing bad people and need to be properly vetted before allowing more immigration from them.

Miencraft

>when you type up a long ass paragraph to pev and it gets deleted because security check

Miencraft, Narland, Rateria

Teen dramas are just a way of teaching kids that having friends makes you a bad person

Pevvania, Rateria, Libiceland, Jadentopian Order

Republic Of Minerva wrote:>when you type up a long ass paragraph to pev and it gets deleted because security check

Sad!

Rateria

*Drinking with the boys*

"I promise I won't get all political"

*3 drinks later*

"Britain needs a Pinochet"

Rateria

Pulceria wrote:Despite my good faith in Pevvania. and my support of travel bans. I must ask why do you think "Islamist's are savages"?

ISIS is an Islamist extremist(sunni islamic), so that's what makes them savages

Social justice is terrorism

Fascist Dred

Czekania wrote:ISIS is an Islamist extremist(sunni islamic), so that's what makes them savages

Sunni Islam isn't Islamist extremism. It's the biggest sect of Islam.

Auxorii wrote:Sunni Islam isn't Islamist extremism. It's the biggest sect of Islam.

I think he's specifying that they're Sunni extremists specifically, not Shia or Ibadi or anything else.

Post self-deleted by Narland.

Non-binary genders: Do they exist?

No.

Fascist Dred, Libiceland

Pevvania wrote:Reagan choosing to nominate George Bush as his VP nominee has had huge consequences. He should have gone with Jack Kemp, who he was considering anyway. Bush would've likely retired, and retired the Bush Dynasty with him, Republicans would've still won in an enormous landslide (Kemp polled very well in the Northeast), Kemp would've gone on to be elected to one or even two terms as Pres, better economic policy and balanced budgets, no Iraq War and neo-conservatism, and, who knows, maybe no Great Recession.
Kemp was one of Reagan's favorite picks, but Kemp was already sidelined before the GOP Convention by the back-room politics. The controllers of the Convention did not like (West Coast AND disestablishment) Reagan's talk of dismantling the Agencies, closing down unessential government etc. They threatened to use parliamentary procedures to alter the Convention rules for Bush and put us (Reagan supporters) behind the bleachers. Bush had substantial delegates, and had the gambit succeeded would have given the candidacy to Bush. After it was obvious that the RNC et al., would rather destroy the GOP than have Kemp as VP, Reagan offered Jeane Kirkpatrick for VP, but they insisted on Bush. In this regard Atwater did us no favors.

Like Trump, Reagan was the outsider and the GOP part of the Establishment was going for Bush. Like Trump after elected, the GOP part of the Establishment surrounded him to keep him at bay, and the News Media started their character assassination campaign against all of Reagan's disestablishment appointees --none of them survived to the mid-term elections. Bush in the Executive and Gingrich in the Legislative would ensure that the Reagan Revolution was stillborn.

The media was so successful with the character serial killing that it continued unabated. Conservatives have thick skin and tend to be slow to organize. Bork was the last straw for some and there was finally enough momentum from Conservatives to stop the railroading of Clarance Thomas.

By that time too many good men and women had lost their honor and good name to the vicious libel and slander. Even so, the media has continued their supercilious attacks against all things Republican calling them far right even though only 1/3 of the GOP are Conservatives (Classical Liberals) and less than 3% like myself are Radical Republicans. I supported Harry Browne and as much as I disliked Bush W's policies the cruel and unfounded attacks against his person was reprehensible enough for me to at least defend him as a human being.

Kemp would have been an outstanding President if he could have survived two terms against the long knives of the pre-Internet News Media and the Establishment Duopoly

Pevvania, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Fascist Dred

Pulceria wrote:I have nothing against the teachers. its the curriculum and the government funding that makes me against public schools.

In fact my favorite teacher was going to be a public school teacher until he found out about the home schooling community in Utah.

Jadentopian Order wrote:If we're talking about Public schooling vs Home, I'd like to put my two cents in.

Not once in my entire life have I had a teacher that tried to censor political/personal views. In fact, many of them actually encouraged me to develop then. For example, when I was reading Orwell's works back in 7th/8th grade, good portion of my teachers reccomended me other books like Brave New World that were similar.

In addition, a very good portion of my teachers have been some of the most important people in my life. My freshmen and sophomore history teachers were not just amazing people who encouraged me to take AP History courses and learn more, but also managed to make the material that we were being taught interesting.

Obviously, the school curriculum is bad. I'm not even trying to argue that its not, but that's why AP classes exist. AP classes are based on a national college level curriculum, so you get a pretty advanced level of learning. And if you want to know about how great AP teachers can be, ask Venom about who Mr. Abbott is.

You guys are seriously giving public schooling more sh*t than you need to. I'm not even a good student and I'm sitting here defending it.

School teachers are our unsung heroes. The good ones are there in spite of the beleaguering system, not because of it and need our encouragement. Some school districts are better than others, and I am glad your experience are positive. Mine was not, save for those who paid for their own textbooks (they could do that back then) and ignored the Cultural Marxism of the Teachers' Union. We all have to never let schooling interfere with our education.

For every free thinking, self-governing, well educated student that graduates and goes out to make a way for themselves there are those who cannot think through their own situation. They cannot do or be well enough upon adulthood to make a way for themselves -- many cannot read their own diplomas if they even make it to graduate. There are more that are so helpless when they graduate that they must to go out and work for someone else's vision of the American Dream instead of their own. Many are made to feel indispensable and invincible and too late discover they are in truth maladjusted and unprepared for the reality that besets them. This is the fault of the school system.

Since most school systems no longer teach our heritage and culture most graduating today have no knowledge of liberty and republican (civic) virtue; nor have they been taught how a free people in a free society are to act, behave, and prosper without persistent government (state) intervention, an escape from reason, or the pretension of self-victimization. Precious few are given the knowledge of how to go out and make jobs, start businesses, or find out what this man/woman shall do let alone learn the satisfaction of providing a trade or service as an honorable estate. Honest work -- any honest work that provides sustenance is honorable and praiseworthy; but America has more to offer than just going out and "getting a job." We are free to dream, create, and provide for others, but the current public school system discourages this outside of Cultural Marxist expectations.

Mr Middlesex, Mr Korea, and Mrs Waitwell (Middle School/Jr High) made sure students could read, understood the difference between education and indoctrination, understood logic, and directed us those of my classmates that needed tutoring to affordable and excellent educators. Middlesex, Korea and Waitwell used books like Bastiat's The Law; Mainstream of Human Progress, 5,000 Year Leap; the writings of our Founding Fathers; and would show us films like Philosophy of Liberty,[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muHg86Mys7I[/url] and How Then Should We Live?[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0Hr0RLHxnI[/url] The Teacher's Union tried to fire and blackball them, but one was able to stick around a for a few years. For every teacher like them there were 10 others that were more concerned with making children into hard leftists (if intellectually orientated) or self-indulgent progressivist voting stock proles (if emotively orientated).

Public schools when they were controlled by the public--the families of the community in which the school buildings are, are themselves good things. Schools when commandeered by sycophants of the state and turned into government schools while masquerading as if they were still public schools are dangerous things. But as long as there is Liberty there is hope to change and overcome.

Pulceria wrote:I thought I read a lot.

P.S. have you ever read whatever happened to justice By Richard Maybury. it's One of my favorite books. after what you said I think you would enjoy it.

Sorry, did not mean to give the impression that we all read them all at once within the 4th grade year. I read them all eventually, but didn't get to Skousen (The Nakeds) until Middle School/Jr. High. I tackled Tragedy and Hope and the works of John Dewey primarily, (a huge undertaking) and the None Dare Call Its while the other kids tackled the others. We would have round table discussions and the librarians and other teachers escaping their classes come over sometimes and chime in as well. I didn't get to Mein Kampf and Das Capital till the 5th grade, but already had formed a pretty persistent opinion that Socialists with the truculence to follow through on their schemes are morally/criminally insane.

Re: Whatever Happened to Justice. Yes, I have it on my shelf in arms reach. You got me rereading it. When I was better off I would hand out the "Uncle Eric Series" like candy, along with The Law, Road to Serfdom, 5,000 Year Leap, and a Pamphlet size work of Socialism (von Mises) with info on how to get the entire works. Another that I would use to explain how Legal Fiction works (when grown-ups play pretend and mean it--like our Constitutional Republic) was the Land of Fair Play. The original work is geared to teaching submission to Progressivism, but latest editions are revised to an understanding of Law and Equity. But mostly I would try to turn people on to Hayek, and von Mises. Although if someone is a speed-reader also the writings of the Founding Fathers, the books they themselves recommended, the works of CS Lewis, Francis Schaeffer, Malcom Muggeridge, and the great works of Western Civ including the Bible, Socrates/Plato/Aristotle, Cicero, Augustine, Aquinas, the Reformers, Blackstone, Hooker, Grotius, Edwards Locke, Rousseau, Montesquieu, Rutherford, Webster, Spooner, etc or whatever got them interested in becoming better at being a thoughtful/thinking person.

If I may ask, what curriculum/curricula are you using?

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Jadentopian Order

Pulceria wrote:I don't believe anyone is a savage (except the very extreme few). I beleive "all generalizations are false". That's why I prefer the term confused.

Though I will agree that the Islamist's beliefs, are quite savage. But not the people themselves.

P.S. This is just my personal happy belief.

The problem is what or who is being emulated. Jews worship YHWH the giver of the Law which teaches not to lie, covet, steal, or murder but love God, extol liberty and to love one's neighbor. Christianity seeks to follow and emulate the Christ who taught the same and to treat others as well as you yourself want to be treated. Buddhists seek wisdom from the way of the Buddha who sought no harm upon others. Hinduism has dharma as its ethical understanding that despises trickery and bloodshed.

Islam seeks to follow Allah by emulating his last and greatest Prophet, the sole Emissary, Muhammad. It is like the placard with pictures of apples, oranges, bananas, and puppies asking which ones do not belong. Muhammad taught that it was okay to lie, cheat, steal, and murder to please this Allah. Muhammad himself lied, cheated, stole, murdered, and did many reprehensible acts. Without Muhammad there is no Islam. As long as Islam has the Shahada, the Qur'an, the Hadith and the Sunna to remind us that Muhammad is the prototype who perfectly pleases Allah, I cannot see how Islam can ever escape the seeds of its own barbarism.

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Republic Of Minerva wrote:>when you type up a long ass paragraph to pev and it gets deleted because security check
Too many times... >:(

Republic Of Minerva, Rateria

prototype ==> archetype

Don't we need a bit more activity??? Like events or something???

Libiceland wrote:Don't we need a bit more activity??? Like events or something???

New event: Everyone with an anime flag gets permabanned

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Auxorii wrote:Sunni Islam isn't Islamist extremism. It's the biggest sect of Islam.

ISIS is extremist, I didn't mean sunni

Rateria

Narland wrote:Kemp was one of Reagan's favorite picks, but Kemp was already sidelined before the GOP Convention by the back-room politics. The controllers of the Convention did not like (West Coast AND disestablishment) Reagan's talk of dismantling the Agencies, closing down unessential government etc. They threatened to use parliamentary procedures to alter the Convention rules for Bush and put us (Reagan supporters) behind the bleachers. Bush had substantial delegates, and had the gambit succeeded would have given the candidacy to Bush. After it was obvious that the RNC et al., would rather destroy the GOP than have Kemp as VP, Reagan offered Jeane Kirkpatrick for VP, but they insisted on Bush. In this regard Atwater did us no favors.

Like Trump, Reagan was the outsider and the GOP part of the Establishment was going for Bush. Like Trump after elected, the GOP part of the Establishment surrounded him to keep him at bay, and the News Media started their character assassination campaign against all of Reagan's disestablishment appointees --none of them survived to the mid-term elections. Bush in the Executive and Gingrich in the Legislative would ensure that the Reagan Revolution was stillborn.

The media was so successful with the character serial killing that it continued unabated. Conservatives have thick skin and tend to be slow to organize. Bork was the last straw for some and there was finally enough momentum from Conservatives to stop the railroading of Clarance Thomas.

By that time too many good men and women had lost their honor and good name to the vicious libel and slander. Even so, the media has continued their supercilious attacks against all things Republican calling them far right even though only 1/3 of the GOP are Conservatives (Classical Liberals) and less than 3% like myself are Radical Republicans. I supported Harry Browne and as much as I disliked Bush W's policies the cruel and unfounded attacks against his person was reprehensible enough for me to at least defend him as a human being.

Kemp would have been an outstanding President if he could have survived two terms against the long knives of the pre-Internet News Media and the Establishment Duopoly

You were at the 1980 convention?

Who is more evil - Mao, who butchered tens of millions of Chinese, or Pol Pot, who literally took out a quarter of the Cambodian population through his repression?

Rateria

Pevvania wrote:Who is more evil - Mao, who butchered tens of millions of Chinese, or Pol Pot, who literally took out a quarter of the Cambodian population through his repression?

In terms of raw destruction Mao easily takes the cake.

Rateria

If "Racism" now only means systemic racism done by people in power (whites), maybe we should just stop using the term. If the left is going to control our language, we'll say the same things with the new words.

Pevvania wrote:Who is more evil - Mao, who butchered tens of millions of Chinese, or Pol Pot, who literally took out a quarter of the Cambodian population through his repression?

Gonna say Mao here because he's pretty much was Chinese Stalin.

Also he was retarded:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Pests_Campaign

Rateria

Good on Bernie Sanders for condemning the baseball field shooter and acknowledging he was a campaign volunteer. He could condemn Antifa while he's at it, but this is a start.

Narland, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

it's another day in america

liberals are protesting

they're marching to a college to raise awareness of minority issues

suddenly, everything stops

people start getting antsy

they want to know what's happening, they're craning their necks to get a better view

before them, blocking the road

white men wearing trump hats, all lunging in a line

across the crosswalk, all around the city

this continues all day, people get tired and go home

the battle is won

yet another pointless protest stopped by lunging

god bless america

Libiceland

If Trump sweeps all the states he won in 2016 + all the ones he lost by less than 10% of the vote, he can win all of the Midwest and West in 2020, excluding the liberal bastions of Illinois, California and Washington. All it will take is a good record and good campaigning. This includes New Mexico and Oregon, which clearly favoured Hillary but are by no means out of reach. That's 363 electoral votes to 175 for the Democratic candidate (let's hope Pocahontas). New Jersey, Delaware and Connecticut all went to Hillary by a roughly 12% margin so would definitely be tough nuts to crack - but who knows, if Penn, Wisconsin and Michigan can go red based on the promises of a reality TV star, then maybe these can as well after tax cuts and healthcare reform get passed, bringing the electoral vote to 387 - 151.

http://www.270towin.com/

Narland wrote:If I may ask, what curriculum/curricula are you using?

Well that's actually complicated. in my family it's different for each child. but generally its just learn at your own pace.

This last school year. I was part of a debate league (Wasatch Independent Debate League). which is a debate league specifically for Home Schooler's. it basically became my public speaking, political science, and writing class. my teacher was awesome. He never was bias about opinions in fact he never brought his opinions into the discussions. All he would do is debate against us (And usually win even if we switched sides in the middle of the debate) and teach us good caricature and logic.

On top of that I took a WWII class. hosted and taught by Home Schoolers. It was really great. in fact we read from the WWII uncle Eric book.

I also self taught myself Java Script. using Khan Academy and Stack Exchange as resources.

I also took a couple courses on Geometry and engineering. from the Great Courses Library.

We also had a Home School soccer group that was part of PE for me. on top of that I live on a farm of sorts, so I get to work a lot.

I am also a Self taught Artist, and Wood Carver.

The only thing I am really missing is Chemistry, and English. which I will be working on this summer and next semester.

But most importantly Everything I learned, was because I wanted to learn it. And that way I always do good.

P.S. I almost forgot the biggest part. Read Read Read!!!! but you already understand that :)

Narland, Rateria

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