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Region: Libertatem
FAREWELL ADDRESS
My fellow Libertatemites,
It has been the honour of my NationStates career to serve as your president. While this period of time has been relatively sleepy compared to other times in our long and great history, I'm proud to say we've left the region safer, stronger and freer than when I was elected.
Four months ago, I came into office in a time of distress. Terrorist attacks destroyed confidence in our politics and election system, our region's reputation was in tatters and our population was in freefall. I promised regional revival. And while the work to Make Libertatem Great Again must certainly continue, it is certainly morning in Libertatem again. We passed the REAGAN Act, reformed immigration and established a historic refugee program, increasing our population from 67 to at least 80, not including the election day influx of nations. We sent a message to the world that we will NOT tolerate terrorism by terminating relations with the CFN, and as a result we are more respected by friend and foe. We secured essential reforms of the military and decisive victories against communist targets far and wide. We've spiked our activity and built an enviable roleplay community. We've laid the groundwork for a historic alliance of liberty-loving regions. And best of all, we've kept Libertatem safe from terror and free from scandal.
Of course, there is much I wish I could have done in my second term. However, we've left our incoming president in a good place. We must reach the promise of 200 nations. We must invest in our military and expand our reach and our power to confront the threat of communism and it's agents. My final request is this: never give up the noble crusade against the red hordes. I'm confident that these goals and more can be accomplished if we have faith in ourselves, faith in each other and faith in God.
I expect I'll retire from elected office, at least for a while, but will always be here to help our government and our people if they ever need it. I will act as an adviser to the president and his administration if necessary.
As I told you yesterday, I have never loved Libertatem more than I do now. It's been a long ride from my beginnings as a Board member in 2013, followed by Military Manager then President, then Military Manager again, followed by Senator and then President once more. I have always been here for you, Libertatem, and I always will be. Our greatest days are ahead of us.
And now, I bid you farewell. God bless you and God bless the Republic of Libertatem.
Republic Of Minerva, Rateria, The Aradites, Venomringo, Jadentopian Order, Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth, Highway Eight, The First Islands
Happy new year, Libertatem.
Rateria, Venomringo, Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth, Highway Eight
Many of the perceived problems with capitalism come from underestimating the power of the consumer
Miencraft, Rateria, Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth, Highway Eight
But you can never underestimate the consumer's intelligence! Ba-dum-tish!
Now that Lod Gord Venomringo the Scorpion is in president, you know, we will at last have the divine Alw of Gord to follow! All hail Gord! Almighty Gord!
And in the name of Gord, I sing the Hymn of Nuclear Obliteration!
(to the tune of Gloria in Excelsis)
"All hail the bomb!
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb.
Booooooooooooomb
And all glory to the holy fallout."
Purge the unbelievers and the Pev-supporters in holy fire!
OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT
President Venom
Executive Order
By the power vested in me by the Constitution of the Second Republic of Libertatem, I do herbeby declare the International Republican Union an official annexed state of Libertatem. Over the course of the past administration, there had been repeated attempts to erase its history from the face of NationStates, so with this executive order I seek to place the IRU under Libertatem jurisdiction. Henceforth, it will be illegal to suppress its history via refound unless its RMB is entirely archived by Libertatem.
VenomRingo
President VI of the Second Republic
Libertatem
Rateria, Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth
OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT
President Venom
Executive Order
By the power vested in me by the Constitution of the Second Republic of Libertaem , I do hereby declare the Chief of Staff position abolished. The Chief of Staff was a useless and pathetic attempt at expanding the bureaucracy whilst legitimizing the influence of bureaucrats over the President. Henceforth, I declare the position terminated from government of Libertatem.
VenomRingo
President VI of the Second Republic
Libertatem
Rateria, Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth
OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT
President Venom
Executive Order
By the power vested in me by the Constitution of the Second Republic of Libertatem, I do herbeby declare this office to be open to Snany to say "good morning" in. This phrase shall only be uttered once a day to preserve its novelty.
VenomRingo
President VI of the Second Republic
Libertatem
Rateria, Jadentopian Order, Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth
It's raining tyranny.
Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth, The First Islands
So speaketh Lod Gord!
Praise him!
I agree with the Executive Orders. However, i dont support executive orders
Executive orders are necessary for the protection of republicanism. If we didn't have Executive orders in the US for example, every law would need to state every single piece of information related to it's purpose (like number of employees, salaries, etc.) And that is not sustainable.
Strangle the exec's ability to do anything? Sounds good to me.
Miencraft, Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth
OFFICE OF BOES OTHAN
I hereby announce my run for president in 2020.
It's about time we kicked the men out of office! No Y chromosomes! Yeah!
Republic Of Minerva, The Aradites, Acelandinisia
unfortunately the only person that was willing to do that before just so happened to be Hillary Clinton
Acelandinisia, Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth
So basically mob rule?
Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth
Democracy vs. Republicanism? Mob rule vs dictatorship by the few?
I prefer Liberty.
Miencraft, Acelandinisia
A pure democracy is just a dictatorship, except there are a lot of dictators instead of just one.
Jadentopian Order, Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth, Highway Eight
Athens was a tyranny of the majority, Sparta was tyranny by a minority, and Mytilene was a tyranny of a man.
Come on, those are executive orders are nothing...I used one to dissolve an old one and the others are meant to protect and preserve tradition and history.
Highway Eight
Have you been possessed by a Lib?
Uhhhhhhhhh don't tell anyone!
Highway Eight
I expect 10000000000000% tyranny from the Gord administration, and it's a good thing too!
I expect all to be governed according to the Alw of Gord, and the dissenters like the unbelievers should be purged in holy nuclear fire!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth
MUH CULTURE, MUH WHITE IDENTITY, MUH TRADITION
Except you can't feasibly restrict a democracy. The government of a republic can be choked by its own people until it can hardly do anything.
Why are you always making fun of me? ;(
Do you have no fear of the majority oppressing the minority, as what happened when the French tried democracy and began lopping the minority's head off?
Miencraft
That's the best kind of government.
Because the purpose of government is to protect the rights of its people - it only needs exactly as much power as it takes to do that, and no more.
Because then you have a government that has no boundaries. If all it takes is 51% of the population supporting something to make it happen, then all you've accomplished is tyranny by majority. What protections do the other 49% have to make sure that the 51% won't just vote to take away all their freedoms?
Post self-deleted by Libertariania.
Hi everybody! I'm Dillon from the US and I'm a free market anarchist. I'm new to nationstates and I'm very glad to be in this region that correctly represents my thought
Rateria, Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth, Highway Eight
Welcome to the club.
Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth
Welcome, Dillon! Make sure to join our Discord!
Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth
This is the most sensible and well-formulated response.
Anarchism can't work. In the absence of the state, there will be no organized institution to maintain authority and order. In the absence of one, an order will develop from people banding together to create an order-maintaining institution among and for themselves. And then you have the beginnings of law enforcement, from which must come the beginnings of a state as order takes on more complex meaning than just establishing and enforcing law.
Libertarianism is less idealistic, naive, and utopian than anarcho-capitalism. It understands that power is abused by evil men and that the main institution of power is the state, but it approaches the solution with respect to the subtleties of social and political dynamics so as to make it feasible.
Acelandinisia, Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth
My stance on how to defend private property from unlawful attacks is private security. Basically, if you have no money to protect yourself, why would you even claim to own a property of yours? Imo, might makes right. And if you have the money to build your own security force, who is the state to stop you?
And I support anarchy because I am looking for a more organic and definitive idea. I was a libertarian before turning anarchist but now see libertarianism as a watered-down ideology
It protects the rights of the people by keeping its grubby fingers out of our homes and finances
Irvino
The state needs to exist in some small capacity to enforce law and establish minor regulations to sustain competition (i.e. anti-trust laws).
Moreover, the state, or a form of rule and authority resembling a state, like a tribe, must always come into existence in the absence of one to exert authority and maintain order.
I agree with you perfectly about the usefulness of property and money in defending the individual against the intrusiveness of the state, however.
Acelandinisia
An ineffective government is one that doesn't have the capacity to infringe upon people's rights. All a government has to do is provide, say, a police force, perhaps some infrastructure and maybe even a little welfare, but even then it doesn't really have to do that stuff well. You don't really need police to come protect you, after all, if you have a gun and know how to use it.
Human rights are fundamental. Life, self-determination, and property are the big ones. They're rights because they're what make us human. Without life, we're dead. Without self-determination, we're plants. Without security of property, we can hardly be called sapient. You don't need a government to legislate them - and, indeed, as soon as you have a government legislating rights, they cease to be rights and become privileges. If a government can determine what your rights are, it stands to reason that they can take them away whenever they want. And, obviously, that's bad, so we absolutely can't have the government deciding what is and isn't a right.
Take a good look at Europe and tell me this is true.
Absolutely. That's essentially the entire point of the United States as a concept. A weak central government holding a bunch of otherwise-independent countries together, with sparse regulations to make sure they get along.
Of course, that's not what it is anymore but, still, that's the way it should be.
Honestly, this goes for just about anything.
Communism, for example, works. On a small scale. A village can function perfectly well as a commune. But then you try to implement it on a larger scale and it falls apart catastrophically.
Acelandinisia
I understand the importance of Human rights, but some people don't. Thats why the people like you and i and everyone else should decide what is right and isn't wrong. And then we enshrine it in law.
Take a good look at Germany, The Netherlands, Ireland, France, England, Belgium, Luxembourg, Poland, Norway, Denmark, Italy, Switzerland, Austria, And Finland and tell me that they still kill "Infidels" and enslave people of color. We aren't the same as we used to be. Eastern Europe will always be monkeys throeing crap at eachother, but even then, they aren't rules by Feudal kings and Monarchs (Ths British Crown is Bull and we all know it. I can say that Romania is kinda crap with it's leadership)
Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth
Hey, I really like that your region has a party system. I'm interested in a party that advocates for Libertarian leaning Centrism, along side militarism (maybe even expansionism?) I've read the descriptions and I'm interested in the Friends General Party and the Night Watchman parties. Any suggestions?
Sulania In Libertatem Runs the FGP and its got a nice foundation. I would recommend reaching out to him!
Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth
I wouldn't describe the NWP as a centerist party. Pretty similar to the MC minus foreign policy, NWP being a minarchist party that advocates an active military front against authoritarianism.
Post self-deleted by Jadentopian Order.
Reposted from the IRU and from my nation here.
As the highest ranking regional officer of the IRU and the last sitting President of the IRU, I hereby approve of and agree to President VenomRingo of Libertatem's order to legally annex The International Republican Union.
This region is now under the jurisdiction of Libertatem. The IRU will henceforth be bound to the constitution and law code of Libertatem. Any attempt to attack or bring harm to this great region (Raiding, post suppression, and attempted refoundings through military activity) shall be considered a crime and will be prosecuted to the fullest extent.
Thank you to every resident of the region, past and present, for being a part of our history. We can now rest easy knowing that our history is under the protection of The Second Republic of Libertatem.
I thank long-time IRU President and dedicated public servant VenomRingo for his executive action to preserve and protect the IRU's regional security. Amen, hallelujah, allah be with you, may the force be with you, praise jesus.
Rateria, Venomringo, Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth, Highway Eight
Anyways, the IRU will be staying password protected, and I'll be leaving this nation in it. If any higher ups need the password, ask me for it.
Rateria, Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth, Highway Eight
For the record (before anyone flips out), this doesn't need a treaty or anything because Libertatem citizens are acting as custodians of the IRU, so the IRU isn't foreign. It's like the Vodka Distillery. I own it, and I'm a citizen here, so the Vodka Distillery isn't a foreign region and is just kinda floating around being a Libertatem satellite.
Related: let's celebrate the annexation of the IRU with a round of vodka.
Rateria, Acelandinisia, Highway Eight
Yup, just wanted to make sure it was clear that I agreed to it and that it wasn't some coup. Technically I think Sean could have but I wanted to be safe.
Miencraft, Rateria, Highway Eight
Yep.
All hail being extra careful.
Hey new arrivals. To fully be part of Libertatem activities, join our Discord server. 95% of activity and official government stuff happens there! The link is in the World Factbook Entry below "RP News".
Rateria, Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth, Highway Eight
I'm important, apparently.
That's important to know, new people.
Rateria, Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth
I would go even further about the U.S. Even the individual states should be night-watchman states. But about the human rights things, there must be some great taxonomical confusion here. No loss of a property thought integral to "humanity" can relocate a human being from kingdom Animalia to kingdom Plantae.
"Haha the white working class are so stupid, voting in Trump who's ended up conning them and fighting against their interests"
Incorrect, retards. Tax cuts are across the board, deregulation benefits all and is bringing the economy back, the war on fossil fuels is ending, welfare reform will get many people out of the gutter and the pro-America culture change is making people feel not so demonized in their own country any more. I think they made a good decision.
Miencraft, Rateria, Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth, Highway Eight, The First Islands
Don't you just love it when snooty frappé-drinking coastal cosmopolitans who've never had a hard day in their life try to lecture working people on what their real interests are, while at the same time actively fighting to destroy the culture and economic livelihood of said people? Me too.
Miencraft, Rateria, Acelandinisia, Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth, Highway Eight, The First Islands, Libertarian New Hampshire
It's the best decision the American middle-class has made in a long time, but if you ask me, the tax code needs to be reworked way more radically before I'm happy with it. Also, committing to further Middle Eastern military intervention ain't helping the taxpayer any.
Miencraft, Pevvania, Rateria, Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth
I agree with all of that. But remember, Reagan had to start off with the 81 tax cuts before totally remaking the code in 86, so we may see more to come. And yes, the biggest disappointment of the Trump Presidency, arguably, has been renewing the war in Afghanistan. It was against his own instincts, which means he needs a smarter national security team.
Miencraft, Rateria, Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth
wrong
Acelandinisia
Hello! I'm new to Nationstates and I think I found the right region
Rateria, Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth
Well, if you can't even be sure that you get to keep the stuff you have, what free will do you ultimately have?
It's kinda connected to self-determination. If people can just show up and take everything you own whenever they like, do you really have any influence over your own life?
Rateria
Wow great to see so many new nations. Welcome! If you wanna join the Mentorship Program you can send me telegram or a message on Discord
Rateria
Welcome [nation=short]Libertarian New Hampshire[/nation], [nation=short]Midorus[/nation], [nation=short]Libertariania[/nation]! Remember to apply for citizenship and join our Discord...Please, please, please join our Discord, as that is where the best parts of Libertatem are found! It's free and a really lightweight program, so it shouldn't be too big of a hassle for anybody. Again, welcome to Libertatem and if you have any questions please let me know. I'm the newly elected President by the way, since I forgot to introduce myself!
Rateria, Acelandinisia, Jadentopian Order, Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth, Midorus, Libertarian New Hampshire
You can also run it in your browser if you don't want to download it.
Venomringo, Acelandinisia
hello, I am new to nationstates. I have just read the invitation telegram and decided to join Libertatem!
Rateria, Venomringo, Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth, Libertariania
Don't forget to vote during Day 1 of the FCN's Voting Through The Ages polls.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=109366
Rateria, Jadentopian Order, Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth
Somebody actually was convinced by an invitation telegram? Amazing..
Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth
Wow lol, NS++ has been down for ages, glad recruitment is still working I guess. Come to think of it, I can't even remember if I was targeting new nations.
Logan Paul: wow get nae-nae'd *dabs* also don't commit suicide
Acelandinisia
Law School now open.
Never trust an edited message.
Miencraft, Highway Eight, Libertarian New Hampshire
I AM GOING TO FIGHT THEM OFF
'Ello! I'm Sulania, the founder of the FGP! I'm really glad to hear that you're interested in the party, though I would like to note to you that the party is likely the most anti-militant party in the region, so I'm not sure how far that goes with you.
If you have any questions in particular about the party, just TG me or DM me on Discord, I'd be more than happy to hear from you!
Midorus
Fun fact: With the annexation of the IRU, the President is President of the IRU and Libertatem, so it's like a Scotland-England sorta deal.
Miencraft, Rateria, Venomringo, Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth, Highway Eight, Libertarian New Hampshire
ALBA GO BRAGH!
I'm so behind on discord.
Me too
Sigh. I am gone for a couple of days and 170 posts are made. May everyone have a good, safe, and happy 2018.
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Re: Feasibility of Anarcho-Capitalism
For the classically liberal pre-Burkean paleo-conservative basing governance on natural law and contractual obligation as the basis for rule of Law (in the early modern sense), Anarcho-Capitalism being quite feasibly the progressivistic goal (antithesis), and Minarchism the failsafe (thesis) with the People (as individuals) being the party of the 3rd part and principal in which the party of first part (the republican (little r) delegates) sent to secure Liberty and Equality (in the coherent objective realist sense) in the form of a party of the second part (the obliged in the form of a temporary and transient state) is the catalyst for which the People retain the right to alter or abolish as the principal party as is deemed necessary for their freedom and happiness. Just the opposite of and converse to the Progressivist Socialist Statism. Smaller communities, colonies (communes and communities), and farms & ranches can effectively be anarcho-capitalist and their own sovereigns, and people relegated to urbana the minimal amount of external governance necessary to contractually (temporarily and transiently) what services they deem for a short time necessary; retaining their rights, privileges, and immunities intact in a fluid dielectice between a anarcho-capitalist and minarchistic state (based on the predilections of its participants at the most local jurisdictions warranted/feasible).
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Re: Republics
The basic concept of republicanism is that the rule of law is objectively outside of vague and arbitrary rule (or subjective and singularly sovereign authority--despotism whether by rule of one, of the few, or of the many--tyranny, oligarchy, and democracy respectively). It can be found in nature's God and by natural law and reason; and expressed as equal justice under rule of law of constitutionally limited government for the express purpose of liberty. It is designed to reign in the excesses and abuses of tyranny, oligarchy, and democracy; while regulating and stabilizing the strengths and virtues of monarchy, aristocracy, and polity through a series of rigid doctrines such as duly constituted powers of limited jurisdiction, separation of powers; checks and balances; and bills of rights that constrain it.
Some countries such as early modern Switzerland; The Netherlands; and mid modern countries like the ante-bellum United States (all heavily influenced by Reformation Theology) succeeded, whereas most "republics" only purported or (as with the 20th century) made pretense of these things.
Rateria
Remember that one time when being statist was actually a good thing?
Narland, Rateria, Acelandinisia, Jadentopian Order, The First Islands
Free Nozicklandia
Rateria
Hey, I've been in the region for a while, but haven't participated at all in region politics. I'm a fan of free-market capitalism (obviously), expansion of civil liberties (not civil rights), and big stick diplomacy, that is, a good amount of military spending, but no foreign intervention. What party is right for me if I should choose ti participate in region politics?
Pevvania, Free Nozicklandia
What is the difference between civil rights and civil liberties in your mind?
Miencraft
Civil rights are things guaranteed too you by government. Civil liberties are things government allows you to do.
Free healthcare would be classified as a Civil Right while legal marijuana would be a Civil Liberty.
So what would you call a right that doesn't involve the government, or someone else's actions?
Natural Rights or Human Rights
Bye bye NUright.
Miencraft, Republic Of Minerva, Humpheria, Rateria, Jadentopian Order, Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLCEUpIg8rE
Rateria
I seriously don't. States are violent entities that restrict individual freedoms. In all cases.
Also, hello everybody, I am new here :)
Narland, Libertarian New Hampshire
What is NUright?
Free Nozicklandia
I don't think you got the reference.
Miencraft, Free Nozicklandia
I didn't
Free Nozicklandia
During the Dutch Republic period, from the late 1500s to the late 1700s, there were two major factions in the Netherlands.
The Orangist faction backed the stadtholders and their desire to seize additional power in the republic, thereby placing more power and influence in the hands of the nobility.
The Statist faction was basically the opposite of that and was the faction that wanted the republic to actually be a republic.
Rateria, Jadentopian Order, Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth, Highway Eight, The First Islands
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