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Hmph. No State Department page.

Humpheria wrote:Hmph. No State Department page.

The Attorney Generals never made Justice Department pages, and you don't see anyone complaining about that.

Miencraft wrote:The Attorney Generals never made Justice Department pages, and you don't see anyone complaining about that.

Hmph. No Justice Department page.

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_state_of_deseret/detail=factbook/id=main

Yeah, Humpy is back with the RLP. More Tyranny #ALLSTARTEAM

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:Well then. It's back to old times.

You know it, gurl.

I have applied for deputy positions. Humph is back!

The top personal income tax rate in 1941 was 13.7% in Germany as opposed to 23.7% in Great Britain.

Yes but when we're probably low as every German was to put the state first.

Not to mention that my he naxis undesirables were striped of all wealth and turned into slaves.

That the* stupid autocorrect

Well I'm a cruel person.

At least my income taxes would be lower.

Pevvania wrote:Disgusting. The RLP establishment wins again. WHERE WAS THE SPECIAL TREATMENT FOR BROTHER TIME?!!

You'd be best off not questioning muh authoritah.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:Well then. It's back to old times.
Why yes it is you socialist ;P

Muh Roads wrote:You'd be best off not questioning muh authoritah.

Respect the authoritah of the great Roads!

Muh Roads wrote:You'd be best off not questioning muh authoritah.

Oi, easy there, you don't get into the real power unless I'm dead, mate.

That said, stop questioning Muh's authority.

Miencraft wrote:Oi, easy there, you don't get into the real power unless I'm dead, mate.

That said, stop questioning Muh's authority.

He's right. I'm an expert.

I'M NOT A SOCIALIST.

I'M A MODERATE LIBERTARIAN

The State Of Deseret wrote:I'M NOT A SOCIALIST.

I'M A MODERATE LIBERTARIAN

For this week.

Miencraft wrote:For this week.

This guy.

Miencraft wrote:For this week.

He will be an anarchist next week.

I have been a social Liberitarian since early January.

I dropped my socialist policies for more right wing ones in may. Given I'm still rather centrist economically that has not changed.

I have barely changed my ideologies since may...maybe one policy issue or two I've change opinions on, but I have never said anything about me changing beliefs since I stopped being an idiotic Social Democrat

The totalitarian thing was a joke I dropped after a week.

Besides that there has been no major change in my beliefs.

There may be hope for you yet tta!

Miencraft wrote:Oi, easy there, you don't get into the real power unless I'm dead, mate.

That said, stop questioning Muh's authority.

I'll lock you in the office closet, I zwear. #RLPonRLPtyranny

Muh Roads wrote:I'll lock you in the office closet, I zwear. #RLPonRLPtyranny

Swear even.

Muh Roads wrote:I'll lock you in the office closet, I zwear. #RLPonRLPtyranny

There isn't a closet closet-y enough to hold me!

Miencraft wrote:There isn't a closet closet-y enough to hold me!

http://stoutshutter.com/images/SHUTTER%20PICS%20005-EDIT.jpg

Muh Roads wrote:http://stoutshutter.com/images/SHUTTER%20PICS%20005-EDIT.jpg

You think you can out-closet me?

Well, get into the closet.

Miencraft wrote:You think you can out-closet me?

Well, get into the closet.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/72/Trapped_In_The_Closet_Chapters_1-22.jpg

The State Of Deseret wrote:I have been a social Liberitarian since early January.

I dropped my socialist policies for more right wing ones in may. Given I'm still rather centrist economically that has not changed.

I have barely changed my ideologies since may...maybe one policy issue or two I've change opinions on, but I have never said anything about me changing beliefs since I stopped being an idiotic Social Democrat

Yes, we need moar libertarians.

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:Yes, we need moar libertarians.

Especially Moderate Libertarians

The State Of Deseret wrote:Especially Moderate Libertarians

>calls labels arbitrary

>invents new arbitrary labels

Miencraft wrote:>calls labels arbitrary

>invents new arbitrary labels

I invented an Ideology...somewhat.

Tta you have invented dozens of ideologies.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Tta you have invented dozens of ideologies.

Founderism

Deseretism

Free Agency Deseretism

Ponyism

Revised Ponyism

and now Moderate Libertarianism

I should get paid for this.

The State Of Deseret wrote:Especially Moderate Libertarians

There are already moderate libertarians. They are called classical liberals. And classical liberals are against the idea of a dictator. In fact, that's the primary thing they fought against in the 1880s.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:There are already moderate libertarians. They are called classical liberals. And classical liberals are against the idea of a dictator. In fact, that's the primary thing they fought against in the 1880s.

Mmk...no.

Moderate Libertarian=\=Classical Liberals.

Name of Nation: State of Deseret

Name of Ideology: Moderate Libertarianism

Date when founded 2014

Founder: Carlos West

Place on the Political Compass or Spectrum: Center

Short opening description: A Libertarian Ideology that take neither extreme of Left or Right libertarianism.

Ideologies view of Government: The view towards government is that it is a necessary evil that should be kept small and out of the hair of the citizens.

Ideologies view on economics: The ideological view of Moderate Libertarians is that neither fully Capitalistic or fully Socialistic Economics are effective in the real world and that you need some but not a lot of government intervention.

Ideologies view on social issues: Socially all people should have their personal freedoms and they should not be infringed on unless it takes the rights of another.

Ideologies view on Religion: Religion should be completely free.

Ideologies view on Foreign Affairs: A government was chosen to fix problems in the country they were elected in. Not another person.

Other notes on the Ideology: None

*ineffective in the real world.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Tta you have invented dozens of ideologies.

It makes me want to cry actually. (And I have had some pretty significant ideological changes before...)

There is no such thing as mixed market or centrist libertarianism. The closest you could get is geolibertarianism, which is structured on community levels and regulated by a sole tax.

But enlighten me, how do you think a government will be kept small when it's mixed market?

If you nationalize schools for example, then you need to set down a whole bunch of other sh!t, such as Accreditation/Registration/Licensing/Approval, Teacher Certification, Length of School Year/Days, Curriculum, Recordkeeping/Reports, Health and Safety Requirements, Transportation, Textbooks, Testing, Special Education, etc. (taken from the gov site). All of this requires more state.

Schools=\=Economy.

The sole difference is...hold on.

Ankha wrote:It makes me want to cry actually. (And I have had some pretty significant ideological changes before...)

I actually don't follow any but one of those ideologies I invented.

Anyways. The Bussiness are not bad, but for protection there must be minimal government intervention.

In fact I do not endorse any of those ideologies I invented.

2 are theocracies

1 is Niccola and The Prince's love

and 2 are Equine Supremacist ideologies.

The State Of Deseret wrote:In fact I do not endorse any of those ideologies I invented.

2 are theocracies

1 is Niccola and The Prince's love

and 2 are Equine Supremacist ideologies.

Hence I am weeping out of pity for you.

Ankha wrote:Hence I am weeping out of pity for you.

The Equine Supremacist ones are rather interesting.

I must say. I am the Lenin of Ponyism.

The State Of Deseret wrote:The Equine Supremacist ones are rather interesting.

I must say. I am the Lenin of Ponyism.

Ponies should be exterminated.

The State Of Deseret wrote:

I must say. I am the Lenin of Ponyism.

You must never say that again

Jordsindia wrote:Ponies should be exterminated.

Where do I donate to the cause...

Jordsindia wrote:Ponies should be exterminated.

...

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...I will respond in one second.

The State Of Deseret wrote:Schools=\=Economy.

The sole difference is...hold on.I actually don't follow any but one of those ideologies I invented.

Anyways. The Bussiness are not bad, but for protection there must be minimal government intervention.

Any public service can be private (and vice versa). Every service can affect the economy. That was just an example.

You can't have a mixed or socialist system without a state. End of discussion.

But first.

I am The Lenin of Ponyism

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Any public service can be private (and vice versa). Every service can affect the economy. That was just an example.

You can't have a mixed or socialist system without a state. End of discussion.

The state is necessary. A necessary evil yes. But necessary.

Jordsindia wrote:Ponies should be exterminated.

Okay.

HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT ABOUT THE MOST MAGNIFICENT CREATURES ON GODS GREEN EARTH! IF I WAS A FOLLOWER OF THAT IDEOLOGY YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN RAN THREW BY A SPEAR!

Now. Just retract that statement and all is forgiven.

The State Of Deseret wrote:Okay.

HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT ABOUT THE MOST MAGNIFICENT CREATURES ON GODS GREEN EARTH! IF I WAS A FOLLOWER OF THAT IDEOLOGY YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN RAN THREW BY A SPEAR!

Now. Just retract that statement and all is forgiven.

Until you back up that threat, I will stand by my statement.

Jordsindia wrote:Until you back up that threat, I will stand by my statement.

...touche

Jordsindia wrote:Until you back up that threat, I will stand by my statement.

Ummm I'll...

*Searches for a threat*

I'll ummm adopt the ideology unless you retract that statment.

The State Of Deseret wrote:The state is necessary. A necessary evil yes. But necessary.

So not libertarian.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:So not libertarian.

Libertarianism is not anarchism

The State Of Deseret wrote:Ummm I'll...

*Searches for a threat*

I'll ummm adopt the ideology unless you retract that statment.

That really isn't a threat. You can do that for all I care, it wouldn't change much, since I will be pointing my scope right between every one of those ponies eyes.

And Libertarianism is such a broad term it depends on what you view as freedom.

Jordsindia wrote:That really isn't a threat. You can do that for all I care, it wouldn't change much, since I will be pointing my scope right between every one of those ponies eyes.

I wouldn't do that anyways since it involves my slavery or death...

Please let's not? I really...uh...like ponies and such...

The State Of Deseret wrote:I wouldn't do that anyways since it involves my slavery or death...

Please let's not? I really...uh...like ponies and such...

Nah. Sorry, I haven't tried pony jerky before.

Jordsindia wrote:Nah. Sorry, I haven't tried pony jerky before.

...You sir. Ponies and horses are not food. They are marvelous and fantastic creatures we should care for

The State Of Deseret wrote:...You sir. Ponies and horses are not food. They are marvelous and fantastic creatures we should care for

BY using only premium oils when we fry them....

Ankha wrote:BY using only premium oils when we fry them....

NO! I mean... it's better, but still NO.

The State Of Deseret wrote:NO! I mean... it's better, but still NO.

and organic crushed red pepper (Is that a thing?) and then serving them on only the best Styrofoam trays to children all around the country in our schools.

[Quote=ankha;8538590]and organic crushed red pepper (Is that a thing?) and then serving them on only the best Styrofoam trays to children all around the country in our schools.[/quote]

Thats a thing yes.

I swear...please don't talk about the eating of horses...

Ankha wrote:and organic crushed red pepper (Is that a thing?) and then serving them on only the best Styrofoam trays to children all around the country in our schools.

I agree with this policy. We must implement this now.

I hate you both. To get to the horses you'll have to go through my nation here in Libertatem.

The State Of Deseret wrote:I hate you both. To get to the horses you'll have to go through my nation here in Libertatem.

Seems easy enough...

I'm serious.

I'm ready to fight an IC war over the protection of these horses.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:Seriously?

I don't know, if enough people would like too.

I'm in. I mean I've already begun to "concentrate" here.

Stupid phone "concentrate" the horses haha.

No...please...

Anything...

Eh it's not freedom unless you have Chicago 1890 style factories churning horse meat out at thousands of pounds an hour.

Renegalis wrote:Eh it's not freedom unless you have Chicago 1890 style factories churning horse meat out at thousands of pounds an hour.

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You are evil. I bet Commies don't hate horses.

But I hate commies and don't care what they would do.

Renegalis wrote:Eh it's not freedom unless you have Chicago 1890 style factories churning horse meat out at thousands of pounds an hour.

EXACTLY!

They'd be to busy in food lines to care about horses anyway

Meh. Fair point...

Can I pay you to stop?

Depends. How large is your military budget cuz I mean i could free the crap out of your nation and add it to my treasury.

Renegalis wrote:Depends. How large is your military budget cuz I mean i could free the crap out of your nation and add it to my treasury.

We will support your efforts...but we want a piece of the pie, ya know?

50 over here and based on nstracker my GDP makes Deserets nation look like a home budget

Renegalis wrote:50 over here and based on nstracker my GDP makes Deserets nation look like a home budget

Wrong nation look at Mediterranean.

But you want to use force to fight this. I'll use force in a more regional oriented way.

Eh this could be a fun little RP lol.

According to NStracker, I have the largest GDP in the region.

Okay you guys win this round. But I'll be back.

The State Of Deseret wrote:Okay you guys win this round. But I'll be back.

We won already? that was easy...

Jordsindia wrote:According to NStracker, I have the largest GDP in the region.

Yeah you also have larger population then me by like 6 bil lol

I don't have time to fight y'all ICly right now, however this region is a democracy where anyone can submit a law.

Oh lol I thought we were just gonna RP it for fun. This doesnt have to be a whole regional thing i just thought itd be fun

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