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Do you guys think Iceland should grant Edward Snowden citizenry?

Of course. Snowden is a hero.

Snowden is no hero, but no traitor. He took an oath to keep secrets. All people are freaking about is the PATRIOT ACT which EVERYONE SUPPORTED when it was passed due to two towers and 3000 people. And yes the patriot act should be cut back some. But continue the use on non citizens

He's a hero - he held the government to a needed level of transparency without endangering national security. The people have a right to know they're being spied on.

That doesnt justify him being a hero. He didnt save any lives. He excersiced his defined rights and thats it.

Heroes only save lives? Odd definition you have.

Just remember who you call heros. The Germans in the 30's called Hitler a hero. Look at what he did. Now im not saying he is a fadcist, but he will give the info to places like Russia. And we can all agree Russia is communism in disguise

More a better word in his case would be informant or whistle blower

Dutiful whistle blower

Whistle blowers that do things of this magnitude are heroes. He revealed that the NSA had well overstepped their boundary. It is up to we, the people, to use this information to keep big brother in check.

NST, that was on eof your rants that made some damn sense to me. I am not the most politically inclined person in the region by far. But that made some damn sense. And "rebellious" means anything. It is almost like saying anything.

Flenzburg, Hitler was a good politician not a good person. It was his personality that killed the jews. Nobody here can tell me they don't now or have ever not wanted to take over the world and shape it in their own image. I strongly disagree with what he did with the jews and how he fixed the government in Germany. But he did a damn good job of fixing the economy. So don't hate on Hitler. Or my friends.

Jee thanks for the history lesson. Im only a History major.

And the economy didnt realy improve. The National Government just bought more from industries to boost the war machine. In reality the exports declined, many lost their jobs and were forced to work in factories funded by the state or join the armed forces. Hitler had a great idea the third reich and Germania, but it was not manigable

Oh i forgot. My country is one city of about 170 sq. Miles and is divided into 18 districts with each district holding 3 chambermen and they elect the chancellor who can be dismissed at any time. We also have a king but is cerimonial

The only reason that the German economy flourished after hitlers election is that he and his cronies started spending like hell. He had an army to rebuild. One forgotten reason why he began WWII was that Germany was heading for bankruptcy. It couldn't maintain its spending spree.

Very true... and thats why you lost your bikes

And half of our gold reserve

To all the Hitler admirers out there, I present you with this beautiful article.

http://mises.org/daily/5765

In the long run we are still not dead. In the long run our children are not dead. And in the long run, our children's children are not dead.

If you consider forced drafts (to "lower" unemployment), inflation, rationing, shortages, and price controls to be economic success, Hitler is your man.

Hitler now matter what lens is a bad man. Fascism is closer to communism than capitalism. Central planning always leads to oppression, which is clearly articulated in Hayek's "Road to Serfdom." At the end of the day, economic success is not the most important thing but basic human morality. If someone is not a good person, the value of the other remotely redeeming qualities are insignificant.

Hitler didn't really fix the German economy... it's actually debateable if the recovery was even because of his efforts. It can be argued that Weimar policies from the previous year that took effect after Hitler came to power got the economy back on it's feet. He'd even said before that he didn't really care too much about the economy until the issue actually arised; his main priority was militarising the nation. It showed, because his Democrat-esque spending had the nation swimming in debt.

Its quite ironic that we have nations with 100% public sector economies and 99% income tax in Libertatem! lol.

I agree, Devidia. By definition, they are staunch communists.

Again, I am the king of no-tax-burden.

Do, or do not. There is no tax.

Idealism, you are the king of puns :P

and puppets, but I I don't care. Scheinfeld leave me alone and ill leave you alone.

I am becoming more and more busy, and have less time to check Nationstates, so I might not be around. I am hereby stepping down from my position as Military Manager, for obvious reasons.

I did want to post this for everyone to see. Who would have thought Chile would be a good objectivist hotspot:

http://galtsgulchchile.com/

@Bavaria

Fascism is authoritarian/totalitarian socialism-corporatism. Think of China.

"Idealism, you are the king of puns :P"

One might say I'm pun-omenal.

I wordplay this game now, but I'll do it later.

For now I'll quip.

That's a darn shame, NST. Your contributions towards the War will always be remembered.

Who could possibly replace NST as Manager of Military Affairs?

You guys think about it.

I think Pevvania

In all honesty, it's a job that I've wanted to have for ages :P I'd love to help lead the War on Communism. But it's up to Liberosia.

On another note, is anyone here interested in Fallout? Because there's a Fallout RP that's been started by NST, and New Vegas hasn't been claimed by anyone yet. As the new co-op, let me or NST know if you're interested and we'll send you the link. :) It's been going on for a few days, but there's still plenty of opportunities. We haven't started fighting the Legion yet, either. :)

I would also like to join the RLP party

Sure, next time I edit the factbook I'll list you as a member. :)

Pevvania is well-suited for the position, and has helped us reach a definitive stance on our war. I'd nominate myself, of course, but I'm comfortable managing internal affairs.

Pevvania, has done his share. You CI are doing a great job as the IA manniger.

Speaking of internal affairs, what's everyone's thoughts on a possible repeal of the IMPERIAL Act?

"NST, is a lying filthy Nazi in disguis. His presence is sickly and is an obomination to anybody that deserves a peaceful life. He is the definition for a POMPUS ASS" - Scheinfeld

I'm 1.6 billion and what is this?

Yes much needed. The region is dead and it is not serving its purpose for the war.

Im not Scheinfeld , im Flenzburg

I agree. We should devote our military efforts towards 1. Endorsing Snabagag and 2. Following Pevvania's plan.

A deconstruction of the Empire might take some time, and we'll need to weave tighter alliances with its member regions should there be a repeal.

I took that off the FFS RMB.

A repeal would not be in my field of knolledge. Ive just know its quiet and its not doing its job

I will not support a relinquishment of the Empire until Libertatem the region has reached a certain population level.

What population level? And please don't tell me you're pulling this off the top of your head.

100+ nations. This should offset the loose influence we have through more centralized influence in one region. Puppets will not be acceptable.

Why not inform through the Empire to move hear.

They have their own regions. I will not make them do anything.

Making is one thing. Convincing is another.

And would you please remove me from the imperial cabinet

I too am in full support of the disbandment of the Empire. Imperialism is the polar opposite of republicanism, and the notion of an anti-communist coalition led by Libertatem is a pretty good idea, dubbing it an 'empire' is completely counter-productive to our goals. It's also good flak for the communists to throw at us. But in reality, they are the empire, not us. We are the true revolutionaries, and they are the imperialists.

But I do also think that the region needs more nations. Perhaps the Empire can simply be absorbed into this region?

You can try, but I don't think it can be completely successful.

There are some loyal regions out there, and the Impact Federation is quite large. I'll see what I can do.

In the meantime, I will begin drafting a repeal proposal. Shouldn't be too hard considering all I have to say is "Repeal IMPERIAL Act".

I heard about the collapse of the Empire. Guess this region wasn't ready.

No collapse, just a possible repeal of the IMPERIAL Act.

It is of much importance to repeal the IMPERIAL act. The empire will not further our cause, but is rather an obstacle.

Indeed; we've devoting too many resources to it.

I second that, Snabagag. I don't want Libertatem to emanate the image of an imperialistic organisation. More food for the 'capitalists r ebul empire fat cat men' trolls.

Lets move away from this "Empire" and focus on this war.

Speaking of the war on communism,

I have found many regions you guys can raid

The Free Soviet Union

Communist Party Central

Far Left Union

That's nice, but announcing invasion plans on the RMB is inadvisable.

Blanbanian, funny that you've listed the Free Soviet Union there. I actually raided that one myself :P Regarding the others, I don't raid one-man regions. That's just pointless.

The password to Slavia is Slav14 (With the capital s). INVADE[/B]!

I know. In fact, multiple people here know. It's pretty darn obvious to anyone who has ever paid attention.

Fact is, you've overlooked that this seemingly-communist-allied region is itself neutral, does not openly endorse any ideology, and does not seek to be strongly involved in the invasion efforts of this game. We currently have no plans to invade, and will not develop any such plans in the near future, nor will anyone else you ask. It's not going to happen.

Now get lost before we inquire as to your real identity.

Can you show the link?

Here you go: http://www.chatzy.com/84081373772932

Welcome, Anarchosia. Love dat name ^_^

Anyone there? I'm on chat.

I'm President of the IRU, and we need confirmation, will the Libertatem Empire be disbanded? Tell us if it will so that we may withdraw our membership and contemplate moving to the FFS and be a protectorate.

Finally, you all made a smart decision. Disbanding the Empire. I knew it would come. Libertatem would establish the Empire, and then fail, miserably. I have to admit, you tried, but Libertatem is just not ready.

It's not a case of whether it works or not. Because it's worked pretty damn well over the time it's been in place. It's a case of whether or not to continue down the road of imperialism as opposed to republicanism.

Zakastibad, you're twisting reality. Libertatem could continue to rule this empire if we wished, but a majority wishes to dispand it because of ideological reasons.

What is happening?

Nothing, just a bunch of Libertatem-dislikers expressing their appreciation for our staying confined to one region. They're of course mistaken on the how and why.

Conservative, go on chat.

I would like to report that the IRU has decided not to withdraw from the Libertatem Empire but let the Empire leave them.

"We will not withdraw from the Empire quite yet (not that it matters, anyway), but rather give it time to withdraw from us. We're also still Libertatem's allies, just as we've been the FFS's allies this entire time."

Welcome back, Einsiev! :)

Haseland, President of the IRU, here to ask you to send puppets to International Republican Union.

Also here for talks with your founder about the possibility of the Libertatem Empire being disbanded and the IRU becoming a protectorate of the FFS.

I could take it over.

Someone's puppets died.

I need more nations in the Imperial Democratic States.

I'd be willing to assist

-President of the IRU

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