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The Time Alliance wrote:Some of these poor people have kids.

Well maybe they should have waited

The Time Alliance wrote:Our religious leaders aren't paid.Greed requires money.

Caveman: I totally want more food than I need

Republic Of Minerva wrote:So they have to take another job to support themselves?

Dedication, then.

Who Catholics or Mormons.

The Time Alliance wrote:Who Catholics or Mormons.

Mormons.

Mormons, Catholic Priests get payed what they need for life.

Lack There Of wrote:Well maybe they should have waited

Caveman: I totally want more food than I need

It's rational to want more food then you need. But moral? That depends on your faith.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:It's rational to want more food then you need. But moral? That depends on your faith.

The point is humans are naturally greedy, wether that's right or wrong is beside the point

Lack There Of wrote:The point is humans are naturally greedy, wether that's right or wrong is beside the point

I see greed as a survivalist's instinct. People are greedy because it secures their livelyhood and the future, giving them an advantage.

Translated in real life, greed can cause both good and terrible things to happen.

The best part of Catholic charity's is that the money is given willingly. Its not forced through the Government.

The Amarican Empire wrote:The best part of Catholic charity's is that the money is given willingly. Its not forced through the Government.

And it tends to be community based, resulting in less potential for fraud.

The Amarican Empire wrote:The best part of Catholic charity's is that the money is given willingly. Its not forced through the Government.

...No "Charity" is forced. It's simply the way they abuse the Charity that the Government must intervene.

The Government forces you to pay for Entitlement programs. Catholic Charity's are donations. Now tell me would Jesus take money by force?

The Time Alliance wrote:...No "Charity" is forced. It's simply the way they abuse the Charity that the Government must intervene.

In a way Entitlement programs are a forced Charity.

The Time Alliance wrote:...No "Charity" is forced. It's simply the way they abuse the Charity that the Government must intervene.

Not sure if joke.... Or just not a joke...

The Amarican Empire wrote:The Government forces you to pay for Entitlement programs. Catholic Charity's are donations. Now tell me would Jesus take money by force?

If I said yes would you hate me?

The Amarican Empire wrote:In a way Entitlement programs are a forced Charity.

I'm saying the Government protects from fake charities.

"poly means many,tics means blood sucking Demons!" - Ted Cruz

I would not trust Demons with all that money.

The Amarican Empire wrote:"poly means many,tics means blood sucking Demons!" - Ted Cruz

I would not trust Demons with all that money.

Tics are actually Blood sucking insects.

The Government is corrupt. You would trust Government who attacked Mormons who then had to travel to Utah?

The Amarican Empire wrote:The Government is corrupt. You would trust Government who attacked Mormons who then had to travel to Utah?

Government that attacked them isn't the one we have today....

1840s government doesn't equal 2000s

Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.

Thomas Paine

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The Amarican Empire wrote:Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.

Thomas Paine

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Exactly. Thanks T.P.

A moderator just called me...gay according to The other regions RMB.

Yes Government is necessary but do we really want the power of Government to grow?

The Amarican Empire wrote:Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.

Thomas Paine

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Amen.

Government is in a bad state. Today i say it is intolerable. We need to shrink the Government so the power of the people can grow!

The Amarican Empire wrote:Government is in a bad state. Today i say it is intolerable. We need to shrink the Government so the power of the people can grow!

Or reform it.....

The Amarican Empire wrote:Government is in a bad state. Today i say it is intolerable. We need to shrink the Government so the power of the people can grow!

Government isn't the problem, the system is great when it works properly. The problem is that we have some fairly terrible [I]people[/I] in government at the moment.

power is like Cigarettes. Its addicting and makes you want more while at the same time harming you and the people around you.

The Amarican Empire wrote:power is like Cigarettes. Its addicting and makes you want more while at the same time harming you and the people around you.

Not necessarily, not everyone who has power has to be a Macbeth or a Walter White.

I've been thinking to myself about how the government could limit itself without growing beyond what it should be.

Armed militias sounds good to me.

Belliger, government really is the problem. It corrupts and engulfs nearly all that attempt to change it. It has a naturally unlawful monopoly on force and all the means to enforce its control over individuals.

Pevvania wrote:I've been thinking to myself about how the government could limit itself without growing beyond what it should be.

Armed militias sounds good to me.

I see a pro of this. However. How should these militias be based on?

States? Individuals? No organization?

Pevvania wrote:I've been thinking to myself about how the government could limit itself without growing beyond what it should be.

Armed militias sounds good to me.

Yeah just like the national guard.... Oh wait

The Time Alliance wrote:Or reform it.....

How does one reform a government so tightly held onto by the corrupt and those only interested in their party's control on the country? It's almost impossible for any average citizen anywhere to do anything via reform or referendum. True change by the people nowadays is only truly achieved by violence. It is wasteful of your time to petition or protest because most government officials don't give a damn and you know it.

Pevvania wrote:I've been thinking to myself about how the government could limit itself without growing beyond what it should be.

Armed militias sounds good to me.

I want militias too

Pevvania wrote:Belliger, government really is the problem. It corrupts and engulfs nearly all that attempt to change it. It has a naturally unlawful monopoly on force and all the means to enforce its control over individuals.

It doesn't have to be. It's the people in Government not the Government itself.

Hallo just got banned from the RMB for two weeks because apparently he was being homophobic.

Alchandria wrote:Hallo just got banned from the RMB for two weeks because apparently he was being homophobic.

That's actually pretty funny. Sucks for Hallo, though :(

Pevvania wrote:Belliger, government really is the problem. It corrupts and engulfs nearly all that attempt to change it. It has a naturally unlawful monopoly on force and all the means to enforce its control over individuals.

I find it hard to see where you are coming from when so much as changed because of government (going to sound kind of cliché right now) just take a look at slavery or women's suffrage. Where would we be without the changes the government has made regarding these issues.

Alchandria wrote:Hallo just got banned from the RMB for two weeks because apparently he was being homophobic.

lol

Alchandria wrote:Hallo just got banned from the RMB for two weeks because apparently he was being homophobic.

Just how? That doesn't even make any sense!

Ok people, those are hours I will never get back.

Let me make this crystal clear:

Harassing anyone for their religion, their race, their gender, their preferences, or any other identifying divider people choose to group themselves in, or are grouped in by others, is not something we want to encourage on our site.

Recently, you were rudely harassed by another player with a rather militant attitude about certain agendas; more to point, being against what he saw as inflammatory remarks on your RMB against gays.

The irony that these comments were made by self-admitted gay members of your region, is not lost on us. However, in review, Hallo Island - who was rather central in several of those comments - was found to be in violation of harassing other region members for various points. Up to stating that if they didn't want to be made fun of, they shouldn't talk about it etc.

Only to then trot out that he can't be himself, and be seen as gay, due to his local issues.

This is an unacceptable double standard. Hallo Island has been given a 2wk RMB ban.

To everyone else, we strongly encourage better behavior when utilizing site resources. Take care in what you write. Everyone who looks can see it. Anyone can make a report. And what was stated, was found as offensive to several.

The other region and player have been sorted out. The resulting conversations have been cleared on both sides. And we expect everyone to behave better in the future.

Please reference the One Stop Rule Shop for any questions. Thank you.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=260044

Alchandria wrote:Hallo just got banned from the RMB for two weeks because apparently he was being homophobic.

that is like a white Racist being racist against whites

Alchandria wrote:Hallo just got banned from the RMB for two weeks because apparently he was being homophobic.

The hell?

Alchandria wrote:Hallo just got banned from the RMB for two weeks because apparently he was being homophobic.

The gay person was being anti-gay? The moderators are becoming dumber and dumber.

Belliger wrote:I find it hard to see where you are coming from when so much as changed because of government (going to sound kind of cliché right now) just take a look at slavery or women's suffrage. Where would we be without the changes the government has made regarding these issues.

I love this guy.

The Amarican Empire wrote:lol

Alright, we won't do it again. Right, guys?

Pevvania wrote:I wonder what goes on in that closet... o_0

Your always invited! ;)

Alchandria wrote:Hallo just got banned from the RMB for two weeks because apparently he was being homophobic.

lolwat

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Alright, we won't do it again. Right, guys?

Screw that. I'm filing a report.

The Time Alliance wrote:The moderators are becoming dumber and dumber

Not really a smart thing to say........

Belliger wrote:I find it hard to see where you are coming from when so much as changed because of government (going to sound kind of cliché right now) just take a look at slavery or women's suffrage. Where would we be without the changes the government has made regarding these issues.

All of that was driven by the public. Governments MUST listen to public opinion.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Not really a smart thing to say........

...So what?

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Alright, we won't do it again. Right, guys?

When I ask for your agreement, I MEAN IT.

I understand that you guys made those jokes in good fun. I understand that we were unfairly harassed. But the point remains that communication, especially miscommunication, can be extremely harmful. We must use our words constructively, and use it to build others up rather than tearing them down.

I say again, we won't do it again.

RIGHT, GUYS?

Hallo can say what he wants.

Can we just drop this whole thing with gays and the mods? The issue has been resolved. It's a shame Hallo has been RMB-banned, but at least we know we won't be subject to nasty abuse like what we saw before again.

La republica de cuba was banned... that's going to cause quite the stink.

Muh Roads wrote:La republica de cuba was banned... that's going to cause quite the stink.

La republica cubana socialista*

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:When I ask for your agreement, I MEAN IT.

I understand that you guys made those jokes in good fun. I understand that we were unfairly harassed. But the point remains that communication, especially miscommunication, can be extremely harmful. We must use our words constructively, and use it to build others up rather than tearing them down.

I say again, we won't do it again.

RIGHT, GUYS?

Einsiev wrote:Hallo can say what he wants.

Pevvania wrote:Can we just drop this whole thing with gays and the mods? The issue has been resolved. It's a shame Hallo has been RMB-banned, but at least we know we won't be subject to nasty abuse like what we saw before again.

Not by anyone but those moderators.

Pevvania wrote:All of that was driven by the public. Governments MUST listen to public opinion.

Which they do, people just have to push hard enough for what they believe in. Some of the women involved in the suffrage movement were arrested and were subjected to police brutality, while others starved themselves so people would here them. People can't hold two parades and sign a petition and expect immediate attention or change.

I have started a regional petition to repeal the redress.

The Time Alliance wrote:Screw that. I'm filing a report.

You do that, this should be done!

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:When I ask for your agreement, I MEAN IT.

I understand that you guys made those jokes in good fun. I understand that we were unfairly harassed. But the point remains that communication, especially miscommunication, can be extremely harmful. We must use our words constructively, and use it to build others up rather than tearing them down.

I say again, we won't do it again.

RIGHT, GUYS?

I can say whatever I want, I'm an American. #'Murica

Well, I'm gonna dance for no reason.

*does the Baila Tapatio with CI*

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:*sigh*

Dance señor!

Rrrrrrratatatata!

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:You do that, this should be done!

I can say whatever I want, I'm an American. #'Murica

USA! USA! USA!

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:You do that, this should be done!

I can say whatever I want, I'm an American. #'Murica

This is a private site with rules, so you really can't. You can pressure them to loosen the rules, but that's it. The majority want restrictions.

The Neo-Confederate States Of America wrote:I have started a regional petition to repeal the redress.

Where?

Go get NSG's support.

The Time Alliance wrote:Where?

Go get NSG's support.

No, don't.

To those on the 'free speech' bandwagon, allow me to direct your attention to the 'Etiquette' section of the FAQ:

http://www.nationstates.net/page=faq

Thank you!

Nationstates Moderators wrote:To those on the 'free speech' bandwagon, allow me to direct your attention to the 'Etiquette' section of the FAQ:

http://www.nationstates.net/page=faq

Thank you!

My point exactly.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:This is a private site with rules, so you really can't. You can pressure them to loosen the rules, but that's it. The majority want restrictions.

But I'm also an american if I didn't make that clear, so yes I can. The majority doesn't matter. This is America! Where more people can vote for Al Gore but Bush wins because of the unfair electoral college. Why? Because screw the rules, because this is America!

Nationstates Moderators wrote:To those on the 'free speech' bandwagon, allow me to direct your attention to the 'Etiquette' section of the FAQ:

http://www.nationstates.net/page=faq

Thank you!

The only bandwagon I'm on is the American one! #'Murica

Anything but Al Gore! Noooo!!!!

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:But I'm also an american if I didn't make that clear, so yes I can. The majority doesn't matter. This is America! Where more people can vote for Al Gore but Bush wins because of the unfair electoral college. Why? Because screw the rules, because this is America!

There are other people from other nations, on this site, as well.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:But I'm also an american if I didn't make that clear, so yes I can. The majority doesn't matter. This is America! Where more people can vote for Al Gore but Bush wins because of the unfair electoral college. Why? Because screw the rules, because this is America!

The majority are not always right. Just like it was not right for the majority of the South to protect Slavery.

Nationstates Moderators wrote:To those on the 'free speech' bandwagon, allow me to direct your attention to the 'Etiquette' section of the FAQ:

http://www.nationstates.net/page=faq

Thank you!

Republic Of Minerva wrote:My point exactly.

What they said.

Nationstates Moderators wrote:To those on the 'free speech' bandwagon, allow me to direct your attention to the 'Etiquette' section of the FAQ:

http://www.nationstates.net/page=faq

Thank you!

You banned a gay person for being homophobic from what I'm understanding.

The Amarican Empire wrote:The majority are not always right. Just like it was not right for the majority of the South to protect Slavery.

We protected States rights.

I know I have not been here long and you are free to toss what I am saying aside but the moderators are here to help protect this website and keep it as fun as possible. Tough some of the things they do may seem unfair I am sure they would not do anything without justification. We could all see that Hallo was making jokes with the rest of us but the mods did explain their position justifying it, so lets just wait for Hallo to serve his time get back and have a big laugh when he does.

Muh Roads wrote:Manbearpig!!!

Mhmm.

The Time Alliance wrote:You banned a gay person for being homophobic from what I'm understanding.

Their explanation begs to differ.

These moderators have been working to resolve this dispute between the two regions, and now have residents from both regions complaining. They're just trying to keep the peace and uphold the rules, and you guys are making hours of work for them.

I'm amazed they have the restraint not to do any more mutes or bans. But I wouldn't test it; quit making fun of them. Sheesh.

The Neo-Confederate States Of America wrote:There are other people from other nations, on this site, as well.

I'm sorry what? Non-americans? Well I'm in America sooooooo…… yeah.

The Amarican Empire wrote:The majority are not always right. Just like it was not right for the majority of the South to protect Slavery.

Well the seceded because they couldn't handle #'Murica… or not having a Southern Democratic president but more or less the America part.

Y'all, this site is private property. The mods can do whatever they damn well please, so get over it.

Moderators. I can't TG you back ermmmm. Can I have some examples on how he was being flammatory please?

Post self-deleted by Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes.

Post self-deleted by The Time Alliance.

The Time Alliance wrote:Moderators. I can't TG you back ermmmm. Can I have some examples on how he was being flammatory please?

I am curious as to why your so concerned? I seriously doubt anything will change by you pestering them. Who knows though.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Their explanation begs to differ.

These moderators have been working to resolve this dispute between the two regions, and now have residents from both regions complaining. They're just trying to keep the peace and uphold the rules, and you guys are making hours of work for them.

I'm amazed they have the restraint not to do any more mutes or bans. But I wouldn't test it; quit making fun of them. Sheesh.

They didn't have to intervene, it was not necessary. They can expect some flak from the people of this site.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Well, this is a nightmare.

Nah, it's just another day in 'Tatem.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Well, this is a nightmare.

*slowly munches popcorn*

mmmmhmmm

'Tatem. *steals some of Minerva's popcorn*

*eats tacos* c]:}

NS is a great marketing tool. Lol

Republic Of Minerva wrote:*slowly munches popcorn*

mmmmhmmm

*gets even bigger box of popcorn, and covers the popcorn in chocolate.*

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