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Eliminating the bullshit we still have from two years ago when Libertatem was allied with *CENSORED*

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Eliminating the bullshit we still have from two years ago when Libertatem was allied with *CENSORED*

care to expand on that thought, and for those who are ill informed reveal what this censored entity is and why they caused us issues

Republic Of Minerva wrote:VOTE FOR ME AND I PROMISE PIZZA FRIDAYS

LIKE PEV PROMISED BUT NEVER DELIVERED

*silently tears up* Don't be like Pev. Don't make promises you can't keep.

I didn't know I had a Secret Service. Cool.

Lack There Of wrote:care to expand on that thought, and for those who are ill informed reveal what this censored entity is and why they caused us issues

I need to keep the promise, Lack.

I shall not mention of it! None shall. Rather, the cobwebs shall be swept and we will press on.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I need to keep the promise, Lack.

I shall not mention of it! None shall. Rather, the cobwebs shall be swept and we will press on.

What, GGR?

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I need to keep the promise, Lack.

I shall not mention of it! None shall. Rather, the cobwebs shall be swept and we will press on.

wat

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Friends, I read a stunning, inspiring article today on the Rebooting Capitalism blog. I highly recommend it.

http://rebootingcapitalism.com/2014/09/18/we-are-living-in-a-state-of-keynesian-bliss/#more-1317

still trying to decipher it hold on

Ha! Right winged! I have the fastest growing economy!

Also I am voting Ci because I feel that min is more of a war hungry candidate. Sorry min.

If elected to seat two I would both tighten and ease immigration. Tighten it by having stricter background checks, but ease it by reducing it to 14 days.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:If elected to seat two I would both tighten and ease immigration. Tighten it by having stricter background checks, but ease it by reducing it to 14 days.

care to expand on "background checks"

also, what are we reducing to 14 days? isnt citizenship granted after ten already?

Lack There Of wrote:care to expand on "background checks"

also, what are we reducing to 14 days? isnt citizenship granted after ten already?

I thought it was a month. Or was that for the military?

Or that was three months? Wtf

*reads handbook*

Yeah. Anyway, I want all these Das Kommune sleepers in this region gone, and I'll see a way to eliminate them without having to become a totalitarian dickhead.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Yeah. Anyway, I want all these Das Kommune sleepers in this region gone, and I'll see a way to eliminate them without having to become a totalitarian dickhead.

We already have liberosia why would you need to become one:) love you lib.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:If elected to seat two I would both tighten and ease immigration. Tighten it by having stricter background checks, but ease it by reducing it to 14 days.

Sounnds like more government

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:

Consequently, the vote, debate, and impeachment did mark a turning point in the improvement of our Board; making the vote public out of conscious choice kept the public in the loop and could certainly be done without mandate, the open debate was a unique way to get the non-Board citizens of Libertatem involved in the Board process, and the impeachment set the standard that inactivity among the Board is intolerable. All of this was accomplished, and can be accomplished again, without need of restrictive legislation - our elected legislators can improve themselves and adapt to changing responsibilities on their own, and I would additionally argue that we just did so.

I brought the issue up on the RMB because actions were not being taken through telegram, my aim was to get the house involved. A portion of government hardly given enough thought in Libertatem.

Obviously, I'm not countering your point, rather, reiterating that if our future board is too be more transparent then it doesn't hurt to encourage the transparency.

So as a brief message to all Libertatens.. keep in mind who keeps their actions out in the open and who hides behind doors.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I thought it was a month. Or was that for the military?

Or that was three months? Wtf

*reads handbook*

A month for foreign dignitaries

Northern Prussia wrote:Sounnds like more government

Let's just dissolve the government and have everyone live equally not as citizens but as people. Right Tsar! Joking.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Let's just dissolve the government!

Oh Humpy... as your "recruitment specialist" or whatever I'll send out another 5000 sometime this week.

Also, I just bought 2k stamps for my campaign, so if I have any left over I'll use them on this region to help us get back up to 130 nations again.

Also Muh, I love you avatar.

I can tell you that Hurricane Sandy really stimulated New Jersey. B) Should of been here

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Yeah. Anyway, I want all these Das Kommune sleepers in this region gone, and I'll see a way to eliminate them without having to become a totalitarian dickhead.

I don't see a feasible option to do so and really we've got ours in their region so who are we to complain that they're here

Lack There Of wrote:Question to the candidates: What will be your primary policy objective during your term?

In terms of policy, a clear answer to the transparency debate is my top priority. We of the Board must decide how we will fulfill our responsibilities to this region's people; there has been a major public outcry for transparency, and we must determine whether the answer is one of mandate, principle, or something in between. I hope to lead the Board into further discussion on this topic and reach a consensus acceptable to ourselves and the House as well before the October term ends.

Lack There Of wrote:A question to the candidates; What are your positions on the proposed BR Amendment (found here https://www.nationstates.net/nation=lack_there_of/detail=factbook/id=305782) ?

Another priority of great importance is Lack's proposed amendment; collaborating for the sake of making any revisions, if necessary, and bringing BRA to a vote is a concern I hope to address in the very near future. Our system of checks and balances must be extended to ensure our appointed officials answer primarily to the people, and this amendment will accomplish that. I eagerly await going through the legislative process and helping this bill be signed into law.

Muh Roads wrote:I brought the issue up on the RMB because actions were not being taken through telegram, my aim was to get the house involved. A portion of government hardly given enough thought in Libertatem.

Obviously, I'm not countering your point, rather, reiterating that if our future board is too be more transparent then it doesn't hurt to encourage the transparency.

So as a brief message to all Libertatens.. keep in mind who keeps their actions out in the open and who hides behind doors.

I agree. The people of Libertatem are the regional cornerstone, and the body they form - the House - deserves more thought. These are the people that our officials, particularly our Board members, answer to, after all.

I would disagree with any attempt to increase their influence on the affairs of elected officials; it is already significant, though seemingly invisible. I have made my stance on coercive restrictions and absolute transparency quite clear, after all. Instead, just as it is our responsibility to represent them, it is also our responsibility to encourage their involvement in regional politics. Each of our citizens have a voice, and we should make it more clear just what effect these voices have.

Take this election, for instance. This is quite a tight race, and just one vote could turn the tide. Citizens of Libertatem, I urge you to cast that vote - it means more than you may realize.

Also, a few of the things my opponent has to say are quite perplexing. Minerva, I'm not trying to cast aspersions at your character - of all of the opponents I've had, you are one of the few I deeply respect. I merely ask you to explain this:

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Anyway vote for me for free* ice cream and more victories for Libertatem.

*ice cream might not actually be free

Republic Of Minerva wrote:And I seek to reenergize Libertatem - and REATO as a whole - with this idea in mind.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Reenergization of the spirit that exists in us all, realization of the ubermensch, cleaning out all cobwebs with a golden broom, and serving the people with the idea of greatness that exists.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:VOTE FOR ME AND I PROMISE PIZZA FRIDAYS

LIKE PEV PROMISED BUT NEVER DELIVERED

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I agree with Con. We had have people here who haven't been citizens for weeks when they could be. Also, our military could use some restructing.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Eliminating the bullshit we still have from two years ago when Libertatem was allied with *CENSORED*

Republic Of Minerva wrote:If elected to seat two I would both tighten and ease immigration. Tighten it by having stricter background checks, but ease it by reducing it to 14 days.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Yeah. Anyway, I want all these Das Kommune sleepers in this region gone, and I'll see a way to eliminate them without having to become a totalitarian dickhead.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Also, I just bought 2k stamps for my campaign, so if I have any left over I'll use them on this region to help us get back up to 130 nations again.

How do you plan to do all of that from a Board position?

Ice cream and pizza proposals notwithstanding, many of these promises sound as though you're campaigning for the wrong office.

What does being a Board member have to do with more military victories, re-energizing, citizenship, military restructuring, anti-fascism, immigration, enemy saboteurs, and recruitment? You're running for a legislative position; of all of the things you can't do as an ordinary citizen, the best you'd be able to do as a Board member is to debate about and vote for them! You can serve ice cream, deliver pizza, and use telegram stamps without being an elected official - those things don't require a license. If you're so concerned about military affairs and enemy spies, just give Pev a hand with our Military department - if all goes well, the deputy positions will be legitimate in less than a couple of weeks.

I don't know about you, but I am fully aware that I am running for a Board position, and thus find Board business to be a high priority. By all means, bring proposals of immigration reform and whatnot to the Board's attention - any citizen can write a bill, after all, and we value outside input. (Plus, that would be the best way to ensure your proposals get signed into law.) Just don't expect to wield any form of executive power from a seat within a legislative body, that's all.

Alak-Kazanistahn, are you eligible for citizenship yet, and if so, have you applied? I see your vote, but I don't see your nation's name on the register.

Wait, you mean I won't be in an executive position?

Screw this then.

Please cut the prose, Con.

I am not cut out for law. I just want to create and destroy.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I am not cut out for law. I just want to create and destroy.

Then this really isn't the position for you. I'm sorry.

I know you want a government position of some importance so that you can do that. To sum up that big wall of text I posted, though, you already have that position - you are a House member, and quite a famous one at that. You have the power to create all the proposals you want, and to destroy the arguments of people you don't like - you are the potential catalyst that can cause great change for the good of Libertatem. You have far more power than you know, and I encourage you to wield it.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Then this really isn't the position for you. I'm sorry.

I know you want a government position of some importance so that you can do that. To sum up that big wall of text I posted, though, you already have that position - you are a House member, and quite a famous one at that. You have the power to create all the proposals you want, and to destroy the arguments of people you don't like - you are the potential catalyst that can cause great change for the good of Libertatem. You have far more power than you know, and I encourage you to wield it.

*is still uncertain*

Think I'd have a shot at being president in the future, or am I too impatient? Mind you, I did write bills in the NSGS and now the SC, so I have some experience.

Regardless, I've endorsed you.

LIRI: Central Pacific Empire goes gay

The Central Pacific Empire prides itself as a modern, forward thinking and progressive region. Despite the few vocal voices going against the tide, it’s great to see our first Pride Festival kicking off in a couple of days time, thanks to joint efforts of our Prime Minister Lentheric and Capital City Governor, Burgundaholmr. It’s also great to see other Ministers and the Emperor getting behind this exciting initiative.

Love Island is a Muslim majority nation, however the disgusting comments made by the ‘Pacific Islamic Movement’, who is supposed to represent all Muslim views in the region, and the more radical Shem, have shown that there are members in our region still going against the general progressive tide.

Such nations and attitudes are an embarrassment to our region, our faith and our community. I have the right for my nation’s peoples to live how they wish, so we should celebrate this freedom. What makes a Pride Festival any less or more significant to the region to an Islamic holiday? Nothing.

The fact that we have an official Islamic public holiday shows our Emperor’s commitment to diversity and all peoples. The fact that we can also have a Pride Festival exacerbates this great achievement. Gays, Muslims, Christians, Tansexuals, overweight, beer drinkers, singers and accountants all have the right to live in our great region. We need to protect, not rubbish this.

Anyone here a fan of libertarian science fiction?

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Anyone here a fan of libertarian science fiction?

No, but that sounds awesome.

Pevvania wrote:No, but that sounds awesome.

Buy "A Moon is a Harsh Mistress" and come back to me enlightened.

Congratulations on your re-election Conservative Idealism.

Any other Board challengers?

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Anyone here a fan of libertarian science fiction?

Something that has always taken me a bit back is the placement of the atlas shrugged movie under sci-fi on netflicks.

Humpheria wrote:Congratulations on your re-election Conservative Idealism.

Thank you.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Think I'd have a shot at being president in the future, or am I too impatient? Mind you, I did write bills in the NSGS and now the SC, so I have some experience.

I was about to suggest that very thing - a person in the President position should be a man not only of principle but also of action, like Humpheria, and Pevvania before him. I think that you would make a great President in the future, if that's what you're interested in.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Thank you.

I was about to suggest that very thing - a person in the President position should be a man not only of principle but also of action, like Humpheria, and Pevvania before him. I think that you would make a great President in the future, if that's what you're interested in.

*blushes* Schucks

Lack There Of wrote:Something that has always taken me a bit back is the placement of the atlas shrugged movie under sci-fi on netflicks.

Lack There Of wrote:Something that has always taken me a bit back is the placement of the atlas shrugged movie under sci-fi on netflicks.

They have Sci-Fi elements.

1984 is Sci-Fi. It's simply named that because it's not completely realistic at this time but possibly in the future.

Thus Science Fiction.

Libertarianism and science fiction actually have a strong connection. Its to the point where the Libertarian Party actively recruits at science fiction conventions.

http://io9.com/setsession?r=http%3A%2F%2Fio9.com%2F5254742%2F10-greatest-libertarian-science-fiction-stories&sessionId=eb5b6291-6b34-4605-ab2f-865bd6cb958d

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Libertarianism and science fiction actually have a strong connection. Its to the point where the Libertarian Party actively recruits at science fiction conventions.

http://io9.com/setsession?r=http%3A%2F%2Fio9.com%2F5254742%2F10-greatest-libertarian-science-fiction-stories&sessionId=eb5b6291-6b34-4605-ab2f-865bd6cb958d

That's just because libertarianism is just fiction. Checkmate libertards

Might need some help here.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=312459&start=475

It's more or less become an Obamacare debate.

School.... sucks.... why... do I need to take classes where I "learn" things that I'll never use...?

Zeouria wrote:School.... sucks.... why... do I need to take classes where I "learn" things that I'll never use...?

i dont think anyone is going to disagree with you on that one. Personally, I found enjoyment out of demoralizing my government and economics "teachers" on a regular basis. You just have to enjoy the little things

Take underwater basket weaving.

*nods*

School was and is the bane of my existence.

First case of Ebola in america?

Okay. Time to be a horrible person.

1. Block all Planes to Africa and Middle East

2. Close our southern border. Anyone seen crossing illegally will be shot.

I declare neutrality on this issue. But 8 I were president I would agree with tta.

Apologies for being basically inactive all of today. My ISP made a derp and I've been without internet up until now.

But I'm here now. Nothing really important with my Department happened, so that's good.

It's ok mien we love you anyways.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Also Muh, I love you avatar.

I can tell you that Hurricane Sandy really stimulated New Jersey. B) Should of been here

Heheh thank ya :)

Lack There Of wrote:That's just because libertarianism is just fiction. Checkmate libertards

[I]Science-Fiction

The Human-Equine Alliance wrote:First case of Ebola in america?

Okay. Time to be a horrible person.

1. Block all Planes to Africa and Middle East

2. Close our southern border. Anyone seen crossing illegally will be shot.

This is 'Merica sir. We buy colored ribbon magnets to put on our vehicles and hold telethons for horrible incurable diseases.

Muh Roads wrote:This is 'Merica sir. We buy colored ribbon magnets to put on our vehicles and hold telethons for horrible incurable diseases.

Exactly.

The Blakenomics Gun Control Plan and Blakenomics Border/Ebola Plan are both together.

Now we need a Blakenomics IS Plan.

So I am enacting policies based on how I would in real Life and I have finally been reclassified as a Libertarian Police State.

All Policy decisions are based on real life decisions.

God bless Mises, God bless the patriarchy

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Lack There Of wrote:God bless Mises, God bless the patriarchy

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And who can forget Hayek

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dayum lack u sexist pig oink oink oink

Republic Of Minerva wrote:dayum lack u sexist pig oink oink oink

A sexy pig?

Despite what the "compassionate conservatives" of Britain say, the Iron Lady did indeed want to dismantle the welfare state: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2012/dec/28/margaret-thatcher-role-plan-to-dismantle-welfare-state-revealed

Lack There Of wrote:God bless Mises, God bless the patriarchy

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/10380685_341018619379762_4704336972049452176_o.jpg

Lol

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The Human-Equine Alliance wrote:Exactly.

The Blakenomics Gun Control Plan and Blakenomics Border/Ebola Plan are both together.

Now we need a Blakenomics IS Plan.

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

shall not be infringed.

How clear does this have to be for people to stop pissing on the Bill of Rights?

The Human-Equine Alliance wrote:Exactly.

The Blakenomics Gun Control Plan and Blakenomics Border/Ebola Plan are both together.

Now we need a Blakenomics IS Plan.

Creating a political strategy plan and naming it after yourself? Genius.

I propose that the Board convenes publicly on the RMB to elect a Chairman.

The Chairman elections are the responsibility of the Manager of the Internal Affairs under past precedent. The convention shall be done in the timing and manner as the Manager sees fit and executes. Further, it is not the job of the General to propose Board and House affairs.

Pevvania wrote:A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

shall not be infringed.

How clear does this have to be for people to stop pissing on the Bill of Rights?

They only meant for muskets. #liberated

Humpheria wrote:The Chairman elections are the responsibility of the Manager of the Internal Affairs under past precedent. The convention shall be done in the timing and manner as the Manager sees fit and executes. Further, it is not the job of the General to propose Board and House affairs.

I am technically a member of the Board and the House, and have as much say in suggesting how we should run our region as anybody else.

Lack There Of wrote:They only meant for muskets. #liberated

And in other news, the First Amendment was only meant for stone-inscribed tablets

Pevvania wrote:I am technically a member of the Board and the House, and have as much say in suggesting how we should run our region as anybody else.

And in other news, the First Amendment was only meant for stone-inscribed tablets

You were the one who issued the legislation that removed members of the Board from the House.

The legislative aspect of the Board is a separate forum of the executive Board.

Pevvania wrote:I propose that the Board convenes publicly on the RMB to elect a Chairman.

Depending on what my fellow Board members and the Manager of Internal Affairs have to say, I would be happy to accommodate your request, esteemed House member.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:esteemed House member.

The General is not a member of the House.

Humpheria wrote:You were the one who issued the legislation that removed members of the Board from the House.

The legislative aspect of the Board is a separate forum of the executive Board.

Regardless, I still have the right to speak about domestic issues.

Pevvania wrote:Regardless, I still have the right to speak about domestic issues.

True. Very true. Simply pointing out that by using the terminology "propose" the Board members could be confused by your influence and such an order. I appear to have offended you, I apologize.

Humpheria wrote:True. Very true. Simply pointing out that by using the terminology "propose" the Board members could be confused by your influence and such an order. I appear to have offended you, I apologize.

Ah, gotcha. No need to apologise. Just a little miscommunication.

Humpheria wrote:The General is not a member of the House.

All nations in Libertatem not vested with a legislatoral position are considered House members; our General, the Manager of Military Affairs, is one such nation.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:All nations in Libertatem not vested with a legislatoral position are considered House members; our General, the Manager of Military Affairs, is one such nation.

Though the Managerial positions are counted as an additional form of legislature in specific circumstances, in accordance with our Constitution, but they are primarily executive.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:All nations in Libertatem not vested with a legislatoral position are considered House members; our General, the Manager of Military Affairs, is one such nation.

All eight members of the Board are included in the precedence of that category.

Humpheria wrote:All eight members of the Board are included in the precedence of that category.

Fair enough, but for traditional legislation only five of the Board members are required.

Thousands of Ebola cases in Africa.

*No one cares*

One Ebola case in America

*Mass hysteria*

New radio selection day! Requests?

My only request is for the artist's name to be properly spelled :P

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:My only request is for the artist's name to be properly spelled :P

I will consult the State Department to consider deportation.

Humpheria wrote:I will consult the State Department to consider deportation.

You spelled "commendation" wrong. :3

I have been assigned as the Prosecutor general for the trial of Kim Jung Un in a International Criminal Court. Can you guys help me find some websites to help prosecute them.

Humpheria wrote:New radio selection day! Requests?

Ode to joy

Humpheria wrote:New radio selection day! Requests?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0Uc3ZrmhDN4

Ride of the Valkyries

o/

Minerva, are you familiar with gross private product, or GPP?

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Depending on what my fellow Board members and the Manager of Internal Affairs have to say, I would be happy to accommodate your request, esteemed House member.

I would not be opposed to conducting Chairman elections on the RMB, provided the RMB is under a silence until the vote is complete.

Humpheria wrote:New radio selection day! Requests?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z66wVo7uNw

Northern Prussia wrote:I have been assigned as the Prosecutor general for the trial of Kim Jung Un in a International Criminal Court. Can you guys help me find some websites to help prosecute them.

He's Kim Jong Un. Do you need any bloody evidence?

Miencraft wrote:I would not be opposed to conducting Chairman elections on the RMB, provided the RMB is under a silence until the vote is complete.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z66wVo7uNw

He's Kim Jong Un. Do you need any bloody evidence?

It needs to happen however you would like it. Just make it happen.

Pevvania wrote:Minerva, are you familiar with gross private product, or GPP?

Literally just did in macro today.

Humpheria wrote:It needs to happen however you would like it. Just make it happen.

Well, alright, then. Everyone shut up for a moment.

Amarican, CI, RWN, Ankha, Muh.

Vote. Do it now. Do it fast. If I don't get any responses in about an hour or something I'll just note the votes down and then quote them all later.

Correction: "any" being more like "barely any".

Muh Roads won the last Chairman election, though I'm not certain how many votes he beat me by. Will he keep his seat, or will I get more votes this time? (Or will someone else come away with the glory?)

Muh was a pretty good Chairman last term, so I'll vote for him again.

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