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Humpheria wrote:Pev tries to start one every other day, but people just don't bite.

I would've jumped into the ones yesterday but I was at church.

I think that the winner should be chosen randomly. If I, the Founder or to a lesser extent the Board picks the winner, there's a clear conflict of interest.

Pevvania wrote:I think that the winner should be chosen randomly. If I, the Founder or to a lesser extent the Board picks the winner, there's a clear conflict of interest.

Chosen Randomly?

The isn't a.....ummm.....What was that government you mentioned yesterday? Where the president was chosen at random?

Hallo 2014! Come on he runs for president in like every election. This will give him some experience.

We could have a second round.....

Pevvania wrote:I think that the winner should be chosen randomly. If I, the Founder or to a lesser extent the Board picks the winner, there's a clear conflict of interest.

If you can find a way to fairly choose at random and announce the winner, it would still be an executive deciding, just at random. I'm game.

Albenia wrote:We could have a second round.....

With the same results?

The Amarican Empire wrote:Hallo 2014! Come on he runs for president in like every election. This will give him some experience.

And he'll get it if he wins. But if Pev is going to choose at random, then he'll choose at random.

Humpheria wrote:With the same results?

Results can change....With time.

I just find it better then choosing at random.

Albenia wrote:Results can change....With time.

I just find it better then choosing at random.

Well technically looking at it, they have both won, this is just deciding who takes the seat. I would vote the same way if there were a redo and I'm sure everyone else would to.

Humpheria wrote:Well technically looking at it, they have both won, this is just deciding who takes the seat. I would vote the same way if there were a redo and I'm sure everyone else would to.

I know they both won. I just prefer. A second round of democracy before we let a machine pick who gets the seat.

Albenia wrote:Results can change....With time.

I just find it better then choosing at random.

AND WE DON"T HAVE TIME! This Board term starts tomorrow and we still have a another seat to vote for, can we get on with this and vote on NP vs. RRRG?

I want Liberosia to do it because he is actually neutral in this situation.

Humpheria wrote:AND WE DON"T HAVE TIME! This Board term starts tomorrow and we still have a another seat to vote for, can we get on with this and vote on NP vs. RRRG?

Well in the case of that.....ermmm You don't really have another choice.

Have Liberosia select the winner. He's fair.

Isn't ankha in that mix.

Hallo Island wrote:I want Liberosia to do it because he is actually neutral in this situation.

Actually, he's not. Just because an inactive nation doesn't vote doesn't mean they don't have an opinion. I like Pev's idea of random, thus no chance of partisanship. AND REQUEST THAT WE GET ON WITH THIS!

The Amarican Empire wrote:Isn't ankha in that mix.

Nah, he's the AG.

Albenia wrote:Well in the case of that.....ermmm You don't really have another choice.

Have Liberosia select the winner. He's fair.

Liberosia isn't active. And usually doesn't get on during the day.

Humpheria wrote:Liberosia isn't active. And usually doesn't get on during the day.

Hmm....Fair point.

Okay roll the die, Use the RNG, whatever just solve this so the other elections can happen.

Albenia wrote:Hmm....Fair point.

Okay roll the die, Use the RNG, whatever just solve this so the other elections can happen.

Thank you.

2 out of 3 random number gen?

Hallo Island wrote:2 out of 3 random number gen?

I don't know what program Pev plans on using.

Maybe pev is using a magic 8 ball.

Well, I woke up too early, so I'm gonna go take a nap. Don't kill each other.

Hallo Island wrote:I want Liberosia to do it because he is actually neutral in this situation.

Not as neutral as you'd think.

Hallo Island wrote:2 out of 3 random number gen?

You sure about 2 out of 3? I will take screenshots of the process and post them here afterwards.

Maybe the magic conch will decide.

All hail the magic couch! Alololoolo

Hallo Island wrote:Maybe the magic conch will decide.

Seriously, this is a big thing. Are you sure you want me to do it 2 out of 3?

Hump is always right so sure.

Hallo Island wrote:Maybe the magic conch will decide.

Maybe someday.

The Amarican Empire wrote:All hail the magic couch! Alololoolo

This will be interesting

I will use the random number generator three times. A number closer to zero is a 'point' for Right-Winged Nation, and a number closer to 100 is a 'point' for Hallo Island.

Here we go.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:This will be interesting

No.

First point goes to Hallo Island.

http://i.imgur.com/hkgDYTa.jpg

Pevvania wrote:I will use the random number generator three times. A number closer to zero is a 'point' for Right-Winged Nation, and a number closer to 100 is a 'point' for Hallo Island.

Here we go.

How is that fair. it is 66% more likely that you will hit a number over fifty then one under fifty.

Or we could do odds and evens

Albenia wrote:How is that fair. it is 66% more likely that you will hit a number over fifty then one under fifty.

How so?

Second point goes to Right-Winged Nation. This is one's going to be right down the wire.

http://i.imgur.com/CRloGdJ.jpg

Pevvania wrote:How so?

Just watch. Do it three times.

2 will be over fifty 1 will be below fifty.

Simple math.

Albenia wrote:Just watch. Do it three times.

2 will be over fifty 1 will be below fifty.

Simple math.

But how? And what way would be fair?

Albenia wrote:Just watch. Do it three times.

2 will be over fifty 1 will be below fifty.

Simple math.

44

33

28

88

54

21

No.

Pevvania wrote:But how? And what way would be fair?

Because logic.

66 is over fifty and 33 is under fifty. That's why. Obviously.

Albenia wrote:Because logic.

66 is over fifty and 33 is under fifty. That's why. Obviously.

But it's a random number generator. You could get the number 12 ten times in a row.

Pevvania wrote:But it's a random number generator. You could get the number 12 ten times in a row.

Trust me. Just do it again. It will be over 50.

Albenia wrote:Trust me. Just do it again. It will be over 50.

What would be a 'fair' alternative? 1 to 10?

Pevvania wrote:But it's a random number generator. You could get the number 12 ten times in a row.

It's chance too, I have 49 to 1, he has 50 to 100

Magic Conch wrote:44

33

28

88

54

21

No.

Albenia wrote:Trust me. Just do it again. It will be over 50.

15

No.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:It's chance too, I have 49 to 1, he has 50 to 100

See That's why.....

Pevvania wrote:What would be a 'fair' alternative? 1 to 10?

No one To ten would be the same way. Rolling a 6 sided die would be better.

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Can we please run the third number please?

[nation=short]Hallo Island[/nation] has won the third point. Congratulations, you have now won Seat 4 for next month.

http://i.imgur.com/3MTCinr.jpg

Albenia wrote:No one To ten would be the same way. Rolling a 6 sided die would be better.

I don't think you quite understand true randomness. You can attempt to understand it with mathematical logic, but the outcome as determined by math is almost never going to be the actual outcome.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Can we please run the third number please?

Same here. I actually want to see if my flawed logic works in this case.

Pevvania wrote:[nation=short]Hallo Island[/nation] has won the third point. Congratulations, you have now won Seat 4 for next month.

http://i.imgur.com/3MTCinr.jpg

.....My flawed logic worked?

Hahahaha

This was a tight race, and unfortunately luck was not on my side this time, I wish the best for Hallo and hopes he does the job effectively.

Congratulations, Hallo.

And now that that's over, I have some RP news:

Regrettably, President Scriptorium has succumbed to his illness and died.

So hobby Lobby has won it's case and unions can't force membership and now this its going to be a good day.

What have I missed during the course of my hiatus?

Pevvania wrote:[nation=short]Hallo Island[/nation] has won the third point. Congratulations, you have now won Seat 4 for next month.

http://i.imgur.com/3MTCinr.jpg

Yassssssssssssssssss

Godisdead wrote:What have I missed during the course of my hiatus?

It was a tie and Hallo won off a random generator

The Amarican Empire wrote:So hobby Lobby has won it's case and unions can't force membership and now this its going to be a good day.

Yes it is.

Corporations win this time around.

Godisdead wrote:What have I missed during the course of my hiatus?

We snagged International Socialists, the FRAUD Act was amended, the trial of TTA failed and now your brother is a Board Member-elect.

Pevvania wrote:We snagged International Socialists, the FRAUD Act was amended, the trial of TTA failed and now your brother is a Board Member-elect.

Wonderful.

Pevvania wrote:We snagged International Socialists, the FRAUD Act was amended, the trial of TTA failed and now your brother is a Board Member-elect.

It didn't just fail. Everything about it was illegal.........

And I had no clue I could Appeal on good behavior so....Yay for the fact it was all illegal and we need to do a repeat.

So uh, board seat 5 will be a hard choice.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:So uh, board seat 5 will be a hard choice.

That's a joke right?

Albenia wrote:Yes it is.

Corporations win this time around.

No Religious Freedom won this time around.

Albenia wrote:That's a joke right?

It is

The Amarican Empire wrote:No Religious Freedom won this time around.

There were two cases.

I'm not a fan of Northern Prussia.

Godisdead wrote:I'm not a fan of Northern Prussia.

Same.

TTA, unions CANNOT force non-members to pay them. It's theft, plain and simple.

Albenia wrote:There were two cases.

Fine Corporations and religious freedom won.

Pevvania wrote:TTA, unions CANNOT force non-members to pay them. It's theft, plain and simple.

....Umm yeah I know. That wasn't sarcasm.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Fine Corporations and religious freedom won.

That's better!

Now let's continue to fight against Obama in his war against Christianity!

The Amarican Empire wrote:Now let's continue to fight against Obama in his war against Christianity!

*Facepalm*

Fixed it for ya.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Now let's continue to fight against the Democrat's war against Christianity!

Albenia wrote:....Umm yeah I know. That wasn't sarcasm.

Sorry, I misread what you said. It's less a win for corporations than it is a win for the free market.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Now let's continue to fight against Obama in his war against Christianity!

Maintaining secularism isn't a war on Christianity.

Pevvania wrote:Sorry, I misread what you said. It's less a win for corporations than it is a win for the free market.

True.

Uh guys, am I a citizen yet? Because if I am, then RWN has won and there was no need for the random number simulation.

Godisdead wrote:Maintaining secularism isn't a war on Christianity.

This is a fair point. But Secularism applies to government not corporation owners.

Pev. what was that one form of Government you mentioned yesterday? Randomly chosen leaders?

Regan Red Nation wrote:Uh guys, am I a citizen yet? Because if I am, then RWN has won and there was no need for the random number simulation.

Wait a minute here...

Regan Red Nation wrote:Uh guys, am I a citizen yet? Because if I am, then RWN has won and there was no need for the random number simulation.

No, you are not.

Albenia wrote:Pev. what was that one form of Government you mentioned yesterday? Randomly chosen leaders?

That sounds... Riggable

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Wait a minute here...

Hallo Island wrote:No, you are not.

.......Hmmm....

I am now suspicious.

Godisdead wrote:That sounds... Riggable

Very riggable.

Albenia wrote:This is a fair point. But Secularism applies to government not corporation owners.

Yes the government should not be able to force citizens to violate their religious freedom.

I question the identity of RRN

Hallo Island wrote:No, you are not.

I applied last night, and I have met all the requirements, and now there is a delay on my citizenship, sounds like a conspiracy to me.

Regan Red Nation wrote:I applied last night, and I have met all the requirements, and now there is a delay on my citizenship, sounds like a conspiracy to me.

Bah that's BS. If Anything the leadership would've lined it up against Hallo because of the RLP.

But the point is they didn't so your conspiracy holds NO WEIGHT.

You applied last night. Much roads needs his beauty sleep.

Albenia wrote:Pev. what was that one form of Government you mentioned yesterday? Randomly chosen leaders?

Demarchy.

Wait they ruled Corporations are people......

Hehehe NOPE!

The New United States wrote:Demarchy.

Thank you......I am going to make a movement about Demarchy in my nation.

Next elections issue. Should The Time Alliance adopt Demarchy

Regan Red Nation wrote:I applied last night, and I have met all the requirements, and now there is a delay on my citizenship, sounds like a conspiracy to me.

Oh, yeah, because people can definitely get to applications while they're asleep.

Miencraft wrote:Oh, yeah, because people can definitely get to applications while they're asleep.

I just really wanted my vote to count

Also, you are not in WA, you have been inactive until RWN was up for candidacy, your nation is named similarly to RWN, and your flag is similar to his. Sounds like a conspiracy to me.

Ya muh roads needs his beauty sleep. You don't want to ask for citizenship when he doesn't.

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