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Region: Libertatem
ISA for Board Chairman. Rally behind the cause of common-sense conservatism!
I would like to take on the responsibilities of Internal Affairs Manager, but I'm pre-occupied with my military duties.
I know Pevvania, you would do well. I however believe you are in the right place for the moment.
Indeed. My key problem is a lack of manpower.
Speaking of raiding, how did the one you mentioned a month or so back go?
Eh, we didn't bring it all the way down (I think) but it collapsed.
Speaking of raids: Operation: Purple Hammer has begun. I've sent all troopers who've volunteered details because the location has changed.
Someone go on Chatzy :<
And for anyone who doesn't know the password, send me a telegram.
Those interested in the vacant managerial position - please contact me through telegram!
Sorry I did not drop in earlier went hunting for doves. So is this vote for Chairman of the Board?
Messing with someone with my puppet look
I AM DERP
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The Grand Duchy of Federal Compassion
3 days ago
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The Republic of Derpderpderphehe
1 minute ago
It is for whatever I want to put here Mr. Government.
I plan to mess with him some more.
Anyone got opinions on the PUPPET Act?
I like it.
I have to leave now, I have some business to take care of.
Thanks for having me!
Question to region: Is there a regularly scheduled meeting time on the chatzy forum?
There is not, my friend.
I see
Anyone know any good easy-to-read, right-leaning political books? I want to get my 13-year-old brother into politics. Right now he's just repeating the things I say. :P He often mindlessly spouts phrases like "Small government is good government!" and "Mitt Romney was a bad candidate." But I want him to actually know what these words mean.
Give him Mitt Romney's book " No Apology " maybe that will change everyones opinion on my political hero.
Errr... no. Neither of us like Mitt Romney at all, to be frank.
Maybe something by Ron Paul would be good?
Get him something mind-blowing like Newt Gingrich's " Winning the Future" but don't be afraid to open the doors to the moderates or libertarians. It's always good to have an open mind and hear the other side.
I don't like Ron Paul either, surprisingly. I'd like him if not for his vicious derision of Reagan, courting of neo-Nazis and moronic foreign policy.
I'm just looking for an introduction to politics, not a long auto-biography.
Well Ron stays away from those neo-cons, you see he is a non-interventionalist. Another good idea is to show him a couple of the early 2011-2012 debates like this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0X6RQ2zNEE
this one is good http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQAhzU9Y4Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDSs_XFmacc
finally this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6D7VO2eEJc
Folks there's a good political survey here at http://www.politicaltest.net/ and I encourage you to look at my results in my political positions factbook.
If Ron was elected for one term I believe he could do more for this country than Reagan could do in four.
I just took the test it is very good and does not just apply to the US nice find.
"Get him something mind-blowing like Newt Gingrich's " Winning the Future" but don't be afraid to open the doors to the moderates or libertarians. It's always good to have an open mind and hear the other side."
So you know they are wrong.
While I'm not the biggest fan of everything he says, Glenn Beck is a very good author and backs most of his nofiction work up with facts and stats. Some of his earlier stuff, while mildly out dated, is highly informational. I would recommend "Arguing With Idiots", or "Broke"
This is Confederate's Puppet like a mirror, background info on Confederate's factbook. Won't post much but I will keep it here or the Pub. Just to let you know.
If you want a good laugh but some real logic go get any book by Greg Gutfeld
He is mine.
STOP, this is the book:
No, They Can't: why government fails but individuals succeed
by John Stossel
Seconded, Liberosia.
Give the young chap " The Road to Serfdom" but I beg that you all open up your hearts and your minds to the other side. Ignorance is bliss but knowledge is power and I'd rather live in a world full.of rational minds rather than ignorant ones.
Only the political, economic, and social system of Capitalism can produce rational minds.
No there you go again Liberosia. It's either your way or the highway and yes socialism and the left's ways are not the right ones to us but to often people on both sides just incinuate the same political minucha of each side without opening their minds and educating on why people believe the way that we do. We on the right want to help people by getting the government out of the way but the left wants to help too just with a way that we disagree. So I beg to you all go read some leftist books and right-wing books. Watch the republican and democratic debates. Listen to each side and just try not to be ignorant.
There are two schools of thought/ideology: individualism or collectivism. The former is the only moral system that can exist because it allows each man (or woman) to control his or her own life by his or her own standards within the respective sphere of influence. It is the only system that advocates fundamental rights; rights that do not depend on looting the neighbors of other men, rather, rights that are based on the underlying truth of self ownership, private property, and free consciousness. Any other system tears down the ideal of the individual man, and thus is immoral and should be rejected outright.
Toleration of these systems is toleration of the collective dictatorships that are members of them. There are only two systems that can possibly be morally advocated for: anarcho-capitalism or minarcho-capitalism. Without capitalism (i.e. private property), society is surrendered to collectivists like Hitler and Stalin.
I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me Liberty or give me death!
I would acknowledge that it is important to understand why someone would support socialism or similar leftist policies, but under no circumstances would I deem them logical in a real world setting.
The truth regarding these disgusting ideologies can be found just as well in the writings of Austrian/free market authors. It gives the rational logic of these repugnant "principles" without all the BS surrounding them like one can find in Marx's writings. Btw, I don't recommend reading him.
Liberosia, That is possibly the most eloquent and concise stating of a logical belief system that I haver ever read
Why thank you
*Begins clapping slowly, then builds up to a thunderous applause*
You forgot statism, Liberosia. That's okay, because no one likes that except for fascists.
If there's an "Ideology Downfall" here on NS, which ideology will be the first one to fall, and which one will be the last man standing?
Statism is collectivism. The State always represents a collective group, big or small, that uses violence against other members in a society.
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Reading these people does not give one an understanding of them. I don't recommend reading Marxbecause he is an awful writer.
Dargaard Keep, there was no need for that exaggerated and overly hostile message. Simply saying 'I don't recommend you read that book' could mean anything. For example, I read 'An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations', and while I agreed with it, it was a poorly written book that I wouldn't like to read again. You have no idea about who we are, what goes through our minds, and how we think, so you have no right to come here and insult us for such baseless reasons. To put it frankly, you can fūck off.
CLOF and Condealism, go on Chatzy.
You read W of N, Pevvania? So did I. Nice.
Liberosia! What pleasure I had from reading these words come from you!
Snabagag, I'm an anarcho-capitalist in principle, now. We have to do some theorizing together some time.
There goes the neighborhood
We DO, my dear fellow.
I've been active on this game a while, but I never got involved in the world assembly. Is it a worthwhile enadvor?
Invasion of The New German Reich
My fellow Libertans, I address you 2 days after the successful invasion of The New German Reich. I know the risks of sharing details of ongoing raids on the regional message board, but the opportunities presented by Operation: Purple Hammer are too exciting not to disclose.
Operation: Purple Hammer is being conducted not by ourselves alone, but with Ucr. To some, this may seem like a betrayal of our principles, a butchering of our ideals, a concession to the Communists. But I assure you, UCR is not the average red flag-waving haven of imperialism and tyranny that punctuate statist regions across NationStates. I am here to tell you that UCR has moved on from its darker past. It has moved on from the days of political persecution, imperialism and wanton aggression. In the past few months, it has undergone great change. This region has absorbed the truths of brotherhood, cast the chains of oppression to the side and undertaken the great path towards liberalisation.
The diplomatic venture undertaken by myself and Condealism was eye-opening. We learn that not all communist regions are cookie-cutter client states of The Internationale and others. This region is no longer communist in the wider sense. Of course, the majority of its members are Marxists, but the difference between UCR is that it's free. Elections are free, open, and not restricted to socialists. Debate is welcomed. Nations of any ideology may reside there without fear of ejection. Conservative Idealism even earned a government position there. For these reasons, UCR has been blacklisted by The Internationale and various other leftist regions, because to them liberalisation is the path to capitalism. And for these reasons, myself and Con have been cultivating a timid friendship with their great leaders, [nation]The united slavic tsardom[/nation] and [nation]Aeragolem[/nation]. This has resulted in the successful Operation: Purple Hammer.
But we must not stop here. The opportunity is fruitful and enticing to establish a permanent alliance with this democratic and liberal region. Gone are the days where they targeted weakened capitalist regions and suppressed minorities. Now is the time for cooperation. Cooperation in fighting the true forces of totalitarianism, not wasting our time attacking voluntarist communes like their own.
I urge you, [nation=short]Liberosia[/nation] and [nation=short]Snabagag[/nation], to propose constructing embassies with Ucr. This burgeoning alliance not only represents a change in the dynamics of communist regions, but in the way we view communism as a whole. We're all anti-communist. We'll all remain anti-communist. But when we see an opportunity like this to promote peace and liberalisation, doesn't it make sense to seize it?
We shouldn't be waging a War on Communism. We should be waging a War on Tyranny. And tyranny is nowhere to be found in the heart of Ucr, an honourable, virtuous and free region.
Thank you.
Wow. I couldn't have said that any better myself.
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And a big thank you to Fireteam Eisenhower for carrying Libertatem's part in the raid!
Anyone like my flag? I made it myself. :P
I understand your principle, Pevv, and immediate legislation needs to be drafted defining our purpose and strengthening our civil liberties.
I am beginning voting on this Act immediately. We have discussed it and the principle has existed. Now is the time for a resurgence of Liberty in the region.
POLICY Act
Preparing Orderly Legislation In Considering You Act
Section I
Believing that all nations are created equal and entitled to their natural rights, this Act of the House affirms the distinction between libertarian nations and authoritarian nations.
Libertatem is officially opposed to all forms of heavy authoritarianism (economic or social violence/violations of individual rights by other individuals or the government). And in accordance with these free and libertarian principles, we, holding these truths to be self evident, differentiate the political and economic beliefs of nations or regions.
Regardless of names of so called affiliations, hence forth, all nations and regions professing a societal or game-oriented authoritarian ideology (i.e. an ideology that in any way uses the State for purposes other than the defense of individual rights and the most basic functions of government).
This legislation applies to some, but not all, forms of communism, most forms of socialism, and all forms of fascism when these things are applied to politics or the macro economy.
This is the definition of Libertatem's War. A War against totalitarianism, and, therefore, a War for Freedom, Liberty, and real Equality.
Therefore, the Regional Factbook will now read "War on Totalitarianism".
Section II
This Act authorizes the immediate repeal of the PATRIOT Act for the purpose of revision/re-authorization and examination of the questionable explicit constitutionality of this Act, as well as its conducivness to Freedom.
Section III
Re-affirming Article VII, Section I of the Constitution of Libertatem. Believing that these rights are unalienable, self-evident, sacred, undeniable, and absolute: that no longer may they be infringed for any purpose.
Re-affirming especially the Right to Freedom of Speech, hereby banning the practice of suppression (but not ejection/banjection) by any nation for any reason in the region Libertatem.
Section IV
Clearing the Regional Ban list for the purpose of creating a fresh, free, and cleansed region.
Authored by: Liberosia
I vote yea for this Act, as does my puppet in the region.
YEA - 2
NAY - 0
Yea
YEA - 3
NAY - 0
I vote yea, as do my other two puppets here.
YEA - 6
NAY - 0
YEA
It's Tsardom.
YEA - 7
NAY - 0
Nay and don't argue with me about it
Opinion: respected
YEA - 7
NAY - 1
Nay
To compromise even the slightest is to acknowledge their false claims of legitimacy as accurate and logical. When black and white mix to form gray both lose their distinct traits, but white loses the most owing to the fact that it was spotless before the compromise.
I do, however, support sections three and four and, if this bill fails, would like to see speperate legislation dealing with said topic
YEA - 7
NAY - 2
At last, the once powerful nation of Actum awakes from its long slumber.
ACTUM HAS RETURNED!!!
Que trumpet fanfare!
Yea, even though it repeals the PATRIOT Act, which I my self had the idea for. I believe this will be a similar yet better and more efficient system.
YEA - 8
NAY - 2
The repeal of the PATRIOT Act (I believe I helped you author it) is meant to force us to re-affirm it in a later vote after reviewing what its effects are and have been.
After a sufficient period of time, the Board has determined that their new leader, the Chairman, will be ISA.
Congratulations, ISA.
In my experience with the Communists/Socialists of NationStates I find it funny that they are for some reason incapable of finishing a sentence with out the words "solidarity" "glorious" or (especially) "comrade".
Indeed, I actually got called a comrade...
Ya, of course! War on Totalitarianism makes more sense than War on Communism!
Speaking of which, i seriously need reforms in my country. Not very active here.
In glorious solidarity, comrades...oh, I'll just cut to the chase. Einsiev is harassing the FFS by requesting citizenship there.
Lol! Well, that's what happens.
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Liber, I'm back on.
Where does the word "comrades" came from?
It just means friends.
Does nobody say bromade anymore...? :P
I vote YEA on POLICY.
Also, I recommend that we close embassies with ACA. The fumes of poor judgement and bad decision-making have intoxicated TitanShen, who has basically thrown out several old members of the region to let a socialist agitator back in, outside of the rule of law. As a result, its activity is declining and it has dropped to 19 nations. It is no longer in line with our beliefs of rule of law and freedom, so I think we should cut them loose.
Who's ACA?
Your vote and ideas will noted, Pevv.
YEA - 9
NAY - 2
Aca. A capitalist ally of ours.
Personally, I will NOT close an embassy with a capitalist region and simultaneously open one with a communist region.
Yes, we should give advices to ACA, and open an embassy with UCR.
Assembled with Dot's Region Saver.
Written by Refuge Isle.