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Miencraft wrote:I just need the last quest they ever release to be called "One Last Favour" as a reference to everyone's favorite quest.

Oh, for the love of Saradomin, no :P

I'm personally surprised that Runescape is still around. I haven't played it since mining was done with just a bubble over your head rather than an animation. Once they began introducing paywalls I was certain it was the beginning of the end.

Greater Columbion

Lain Iwakura wrote:I'm personally surprised that Runescape is still around. I haven't played it since mining was done with just a bubble over your head rather than an animation. Once they began introducing paywalls I was certain it was the beginning of the end.

It's still there because it's profitable, and probably won't cease being profitable for some time.

Membership is money well spent, I think. Equal opportunity and all that.

The other microtransactions... not so much.

Miencraft

Was Providence, Rhode Island in the mid 1600s an example of a minarchist state? I certainly think so. According to some sources, the local government only concerned itself with violations of "personne or propertie." The church managed most of community affairs and welfare/healthcare, yet was completely voluntary due to separation of church and state in Providence.

Miencraft, Kings Island, Pevvania, Condealism, Greater Columbion, Austex, Teuberland

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Was Providence, Rhode Island in the mid 1600s an example of a minarchist state? I certainly think so. According to some sources, the local government only concerned itself with violations of "personne or propertie." The church managed most of community affairs and welfare/healthcare, yet was completely voluntary due to separation of church and state in Providence.

What exactly is Minarchism? Is it like a branch of Libertarianism? Forgive me for my ignorance.

Hello.. I've finally found an active region..

Austex

Greater Columbion wrote:What exactly is Minarchism? Is it like a branch of Libertarianism? Forgive me for my ignorance.

Minarchism is basically having a state and it's limited to only the police, courts and military that protect only individual rights, but sometimes other services are included as legitimate to be controlled by the state. In Libertarianism, it's in debate with anarchism whether or not any form of government existing is moral.

More info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minarchism

Greater Columbion, Austex

I would like to announce that The Dark Lieutenant is now a citizen! Congradulations!

Humpheria, Austex, The Dark Lieutenant

Can somebody explain to me why or why not debt financing is favorable to equity financing?

Greater Columbion

The Aradites wrote:Minarchism is basically having a state and it's limited to only the police, courts and military that protect only individual rights, but sometimes other services are included as legitimate to be controlled by the state. In Libertarianism, it's in debate with anarchism whether or not any form of government existing is moral.

More info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minarchism

So basically it promotes the government to have minimal functions, yea?

Austex

Greater Columbion wrote:So basically it promotes the government to have minimal functions, yea?

Exactly

Teuberland

So, after many tedious hours of Microsoft Paint, I present to you all the Supermap:

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=baxten/detail=factbook/id=488171

The New United States, Austex

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Can somebody explain to me why or why not debt financing is favorable to equity financing?

Advantages and disadvantages of both

http://www.nfib.com/article/ital-50036/

Debt financing is generally better because the bank does not need to own a part of your company to loan to you. However, if you're company isn't exactly a growth idea and will take some time, a lack of profits will lead to a lot of interest and possibly huge debts, which is where Equity financing is more favorable. It all depends if you think you can pay the bank back and not have huge interest to pay back vs someone owning part of your company and doing nothing for you in return, other than provide capital.

Republic Of Minerva, Austex, Lain Iwakura

Baxten wrote:So, after many tedious hours of Microsoft Paint, I present to you all the Supermap:

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=baxten/detail=factbook/id=488171

Might I recommend Paint.NET?

Baxten wrote:So, after many tedious hours of Microsoft Paint, I present to you all the Supermap:

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=baxten/detail=factbook/id=488171

Oh and also it should be bigger. Like, a lot bigger.

Like, so big that you need to link to the image directly rather than embedding it.

The New United States

Is there any location for light RPing in the region, such as regional newspapers? I was wanting to take advantage of such a thing to write articles about my country--the first being an international row over my nation's flag after joining Libertatem, as the flag feels a bit to Warsaw bloc for the region. (In other words, the flag makes me think of the GDR's flag to a slight degree, with the large shield in the center.)

Miencraft wrote:Oh and also it should be bigger. Like, a lot bigger.

Like, so big that you need to link to the image directly rather than embedding it.

Also the numbers labeling each territory need to be bigger, and probably black

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:Also the numbers labeling each territory need to be bigger, and probably black

Depending on what they're against; They just need to contrast.

Teuberland wrote:Is there any location for light RPing in the region, such as regional newspapers? I was wanting to take advantage of such a thing to write articles about my country--the first being an international row over my nation's flag after joining Libertatem, as the flag feels a bit to Warsaw bloc for the region. (In other words, the flag makes me think of the GDR's flag to a slight degree, with the large shield in the center.)

We do actually have a paper, if you've got NS++.

Anyone can contribute to it, and even if you don't have NS++ just write up the news in a factbook or something and it'll be added.

Teuberland

Miencraft wrote:We do actually have a paper, if you've got NS++.

Anyone can contribute to it, and even if you don't have NS++ just write up the news in a factbook or something and it'll be added.

NS++ wouldn't work the last time I tried downloading it. I think I'll make a second attempt.

Teuberland wrote:NS++ wouldn't work the last time I tried downloading it. I think I'll make a second attempt.

Whoever's in charge of development nowadays does like to leave it to die...

It's working fine for me now, so now's probably a good time.

Teuberland, Lain Iwakura

Miencraft wrote:Whoever's in charge of development nowadays does like to leave it to die...

It's working fine for me now, so now's probably a good time.

I'm a Firefox user. Are you as well?

Miencraft wrote:Depending on what they're against; They just need to contrast.

Well yeah, right. Of course. I didn't mean for black colored regions to have black numbers... but you get the idea hehe

Miencraft wrote:Oh and also it should be bigger. Like, a lot bigger.

Like, so big that you need to link to the image directly rather than embedding it.

Don't worry, I'm ahead of you

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:Well yeah, right. Of course. I didn't mean for black colored regions to have black numbers... but you get the idea hehe

Black is pretty ugly on the map, but I'll use it for the ones where it is on the sea

Lol the reds grabbed my so called "empire" that Amarican. It's nice to know they still care :) <3

ILY Teksi!

Lain Iwakura

Muh Roads wrote:Lol the reds grabbed my so called "empire" that Amarican created. It's nice to know they still care :) <3

ILY Teksi!

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:Advantages and disadvantages of both

http://www.nfib.com/article/ital-50036/

Debt financing is generally better because the bank does not need to own a part of your company to loan to you. However, if you're company isn't exactly a growth idea and will take some time, a lack of profits will lead to a lot of interest and possibly huge debts, which is where Equity financing is more favorable. It all depends if you think you can pay the bank back and not have huge interest to pay back vs someone owning part of your company and doing nothing for you in return, other than provide capital.

Thank you for this, RRRG.

I am continually surprised by the Moderate Party of Sweden. One article in loosely translated Swedish I read stated their support for literally privatizing all of education, a policy that I would not find pushed by any other sensible conservative party in Europe.

Teuberland wrote:I'm a Firefox user. Are you as well?

Chrome, but I see that article did end up showing up, so it should be published now.

Teuberland

Muh Roads wrote:Lol the reds grabbed my so called "empire" that Amarican. It's nice to know they still care :) <3

ILY Teksi!

That Amarican what? What did Amarican do? Your so called "Empire" that he what? What's going on? Wh-wh... WHAHAPPEN?!?

Miencraft, Austex

Libertatem State Visit Agenda (Two Weeks From Now)

Day One:

Welcoming of Chancellor Markotovia...... Address by President Humpheria

Chancellor Markotovia's Remarks...... Address by Chancellor Markotovia

State of Sisterhood...... Update on Sister Regions' Relations by Commonwealth Ambassador to Libertatem

Mingling...... Citizens of Libertatem and Chancellor Markotovia

Day Two:

Manager of State Address on Diplomatic Endeavors...... Manager Condealism

Manager of War Address on Defender Status of Our Alliance...... General Pevvania

Manager of Internal Affairs Address on Visa Program...... (Quick Address by)Manager Kings Island

Lecture on Regional Laws and Structure for Chancellor Markotovia and Others...... General Pevvania

Day Three:

Reaffirmation of Sister Region Charter...... President Humpheria and Chancellor Markotovia

Farewell Address...... Chancellor Markotovia

Adieu...... President Humpheria and Citizens of Libertatem

Miencraft, The New United States, Rateria, Condealism, Austex

Libertatemist bureaucracy

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Libertatemist bureaucracy

Many yes.

5th highest in drug use? Getting Snoop Dogg to write the national anthem paid off.

Rateria, Teuberland

Condealism wrote:That Amarican what? What did Amarican do? Your so called "Empire" that he what? What's going on? Wh-wh... WHAHAPPEN?!?

[Region=The Muh Roadsian empire]

MAP UPDATED. SPOTS ARE GOING FAST

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=baxten/detail=factbook/id=488171

The New United States

The commonwealth of free nations is a terrible region, run by a tyrant and his close friends. It's not free, it's not good. Please fight them.

Mhogsket wrote:The commonwealth of free nations is a terrible region, run by a tyrant and his close friends. It's not free, it's not good. Please fight them.

Thanks for the advice, person literally nobody here knows.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes, The New United States, Condealism, Austex

Miencraft wrote:Thanks for the advice, person literally nobody here knows.

If I could like this, I would.

Mhogsket wrote:The commonwealth of free nations is a terrible region, run by a tyrant and his close friends. It's not free, it's not good. Please fight them.

And who are you, exactly. Are...are you Azoria?

The New United States

Hey, Libertatemites, we should create some sort of defense pact for the supermap's RP, consisting of nations of our political persuasion.

Would anybody be interested?

Miencraft, Austex

The New United States wrote:Hey, Libertatemites, we should create some sort of defense pact for the supermap's RP, consisting of nations of our political persuasion.

Would anybody be interested?

If all Libertatemites on the map were to band together, we'd be the largest single force in North America, completely control Australia, and have very sizable holdings in Eurasia and Africa. I think we'd do really well.

Miencraft

Mhogsket wrote:The commonwealth of free nations is a terrible region, run by a tyrant and his close friends. It's not free, it's not good. Please fight them.

You do realize that Libertatem and the CFN are pretty close allies, right? If you actually want to convince people, the least you could do is preach to people who aren't already favorably disposed toward the CFN. Just sayin'.

Miencraft, Rateria, Condealism, Austex, The Dark Lieutenant

Muh Roads wrote:[Region=The Muh Roadsian empire]

You accidentally to say what Amarican did. Is this dangerous?

The New United States wrote:If all Libertatemites on the map were to band together, we'd be the largest single force in North America, completely control Australia, and have very sizable holdings in Eurasia and Africa. I think we'd do really well.

Maybe some of y'all could join the ITF. So far it's' me and Mark, and I think we could do good. What do y'all say.

Baxten wrote:If I could like this, I would.

And who are you, exactly. Are...are you Azoria?

Who?

Mhogsket wrote:Who?

And what I'm saying is in fact true. Marko, Vista, You, you're all in complete control of the CFN with no opposition.

Mhogsket wrote:Who?

Long time ago, former friend. He stayed the exact same thing, but to the Pacific.

Mhogsket wrote:And what I'm saying is in fact true. Marko, Vista, You, you're all in complete control of the CFN with no opposition.

And what is your proof? Jas was right about Libertatem being our closest allies.

Baxten wrote:Long time ago, former friend. He stayed the exact same thing, but to the Pacific.

And what is your proof? Jas was right about Libertatem being our closest allies.

Sayed*

Mhogsket wrote:And what I'm saying is in fact true. Marko, Vista, You, you're all in complete control of the CFN with no opposition.

If it makes you feel better, I'm not considering another term as MoIA

Yes it's true that almost the entire Cabinet is in the Liberal Party

Which is an issue

Vista Major wrote:If it makes you feel better, I'm not considering another term as MoIA

Yes it's true that almost the entire Cabinet is in the Liberal Party

Which is an issue

We really don't have another party that has different views, but no one wants to make one.

Anyways, to the rest of the region here, can't wait for the state visit!

The New United States, Rateria, Austex

Baxten wrote:We really don't have another party that has different views, but no one wants to make one.

I really want people to make more parties

Even if not, some more independents running will be great

Teuberland

Vista Major wrote:If it makes you feel better, I'm not considering another term as MoIA

Yes it's true that almost the entire Cabinet is in the Liberal Party

Which is an issue

It is an issue, yes.

Au Minbo wrote:It is an issue, yes.

Political apathy is gripping us

We must start an initiative to combat it

Rateria

*Cough* Sorry about taking over your RMB Libertatem. :)

Lain Iwakura

Au Minbo wrote:*Cough* Sorry about taking over your RMB Libertatem. :)

I stand by this

Now, what I came here for:

Y'all should make a poll to ask the people to make the supermap official. If y'all want to.

Baxten wrote:Sayed*

*said

Speak 'Murican, people!

Rateria

Condealism wrote:*said

Speak 'Murican, people!

Lol, you're right. I'm burnt out right now.

Baxten wrote:Lol, you're right. I'm burnt out right now.

Happens to the best of us :P

Condealism wrote:Happens to the best of us :P

Did you claim a spot on the Supermap?

Hello Friends,

Looking forward to the state visit!

I would like to extend a personal invitation to the Chief Justice of this fine region to visit the Commonwealth Courts and "dinner" in my chambers.

All the Best,

Chief Justice Alexander J. Ruclax

I would like to ask a question:

For what reasons does the government of Libertatem support a war on communism in NationStates, and in what ways does it support action against communist states and regions?

Vista Major wrote:I really want people to make more parties

Even if not, some more independents running will be great

Once I get citizenship I could run on life, liberty, and property as the sole duties of the state. I don't think promoting any form of war, RP or raiding, will combat communism--certainly not on a community of gamers.

Baxten wrote:Now, what I came here for:

Y'all should make a poll to ask the people to make the supermap official. If y'all want to.

Personally, since my map was itself a private endeavor that serves as the successor to a a private endeavor that served as the successor to a private endeavor, I'd say an "official" map would be... strange, to say the least.

That's just my opinion on it.

If there will be an official map, it should include more planets than Earth. Teuberland was supposed to be based on the Settlers of Catan, and despite no longer being based on the game, it still doesn't fit anywhere on this planet.

Baxten wrote:Did you claim a spot on the Supermap?

I'm on my phone, so I'm not even sure I can see the map.

Is Botswana taken?

Condealism wrote:I'm on my phone, so I'm not even sure I can see the map.

Is Botswana taken?

No

Teuberland wrote:If there will be an official map, it should include more planets than Earth. Teuberland was supposed to be based on the Settlers of Catan, and despite no longer being based on the game, it still doesn't fit anywhere on this planet.

Well then these next few RPs will not be for you.

Teuberland

Miencraft wrote:Personally, since my map was itself a private endeavor that serves as the successor to a a private endeavor that served as the successor to a private endeavor, I'd say an "official" map would be... strange, to say the least.

That's just my opinion on it.

It doesn't have to be official. It just means the one under the "Map" link.

Baxten wrote:Well then these next few RPs will not be for you.

That's fine by me. I really should be devoting more time to bassoon than NationStates--or anything else than NationStates! Lol.

Teuberland wrote:That's fine by me. I really should be devoting more time to bassoon than NationStates--or anything else than NationStates! Lol.

Heh. Easier said than done.

Rateria, Teuberland

Lain Iwakura wrote:Heh. Easier said than done.

For both cases.

Baxten wrote:No

I'll take Botswana, then.

Condealism wrote:I'll take Botswana, then.

OK

Just putting it out there, I really like the embassy posting now. I think we should just take a chance to appreciate it. Remember the time before embassy posting when embassies were pretty much useless? So much nicer now. Okay carry on.

Miencraft, Pevvania, The New United States, Rateria, Condealism, Austex

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:Just putting it out there, I really like the embassy posting now. I think we should just take a chance to appreciate it. Remember the time before embassy posting when embassies were pretty much useless? So much nicer now. Okay carry on.

Hell yeah. This would have come in handy during the TFI days.

Speaking of embassy posting privileges Mr. Condealism, what do you think about Genuan Rebirth? They are a part of this supermap that many of our nations are a part of, might we consider opening an embassy with them?

Sure, if the President okays it.

Post self-deleted by Humpheria.

Attention Everyone

I would like to thank our friends in the Commonwealth for joining us briefly last night, it was good to see you.

I would also like to formalize the official government position on the recent "Anti-Commonwealth Movement". I did not sign that Charter for nothing, I believe in our friendship. We, as a government, will stand in solidarity with our allies. I wish to remind the dissenters that are attempting to gain favor here that you are not in the majority. In Libertatem, we have a similar issue as the Commonwealth, 7/9 of all of our government officials belong to the RLP.

That being said, if a private citizen has a dissenting opinion, it is his right to exercise his discretion on the matter.

Thank you.

Miencraft, Kings Island, Rateria, Condealism, Greater Columbion, Lain Iwakura

Condealism wrote:Sure, if the President okays it.

Yeah do whatever

Miencraft

Humpheria wrote:Yeah do whatever

Alright, someone with Liberosia access, send an embassy request to Genuan Rebirth.

Can't remember whether I do or not and at this point I'm too afraid to check. Lol

Wait, why are you voting against a repeal? Isn't that a violation of the WAR Act?

Condealism wrote:Wait, why are you voting against a repeal? Isn't that a violation of the WAR Act?

Indeed, it is a violation of the WAR Act.

Mr. President, I request that you vote for this repeal, in accordance with the laws that require that of you.

Hi everyone. I'm sorry for being inactive a lot.

Condealism wrote:Wait, why are you voting against a repeal? Isn't that a violation of the WAR Act?

The New United States wrote:Indeed, it is a violation of the WAR Act.

Mr. President, I request that you vote for this repeal, in accordance with the laws that require that of you.

Thank you for the reminder, as I had forgotten about the WAR Act. I voted against the repeal because it is a repeal of an act that is counter-authoritarian, and thus voting for the repeal is in terms, a vote for authoritarianism.

Humpheria wrote:Thank you for the reminder, as I had forgotten about the WAR Act. I voted against the repeal because it is a repeal of an act that is counter-authoritarian, and thus voting for the repeal is in terms, a vote for authoritarianism.

On the contrary - the act up for repeal mandates specific action from WA members - reading the proposals - and is thus an infringement of their rights.

The New United States

Condealism wrote:On the contrary - the act up for repeal mandates specific action from WA members - reading the proposals - and is thus an infringement of their rights.

You're right, I misunderstood. But the following is still an issue...

Office of the Honorable Chief Justice of Libertatem

Chief Justice [nation=short]The Aradites[/nation]

Supreme Court, Libertatem City

Honorable Chief Justice,

I respectfully request that you convene the Supreme Court, which entails Justice [nation=short]Miencraft[/nation] and Justice [nation=short]The New United States[/nation], to rule on the constitutionality of the World Assembly Representation Act on the grounds of a violation Article VII of the Constitution of the United States. I propose the following violations:

I. Violation of Art. VII, Section I, Subsection I, the freedom of speech and expression of whomever holds the office of World Assembly Delegate

II. Violation of Art. VII, Section I, Subsection V, the right of holding personal liberty whilst simultaneously holding WAD office in infringed by this law

III. The legislation can be seen to counter the basic ideological construction of our region

I remind the Court that I will be consulting the Attorney General, if the Chief Justice adds Humpheria v. Libertatem to the official docket, to argue for the plaintiff, myself, pursuant to the Third Branch Amendment. I implore the Attorney General to appoint an interim People's Attorney to argue for the respondent, the Libertatem Law code.

Should the Chief Justice take up the case in the docket, then I would like to petition the Court for the Chief Justice to compel Justice TNUS to recuse himself from the case as he was the author of the legislation. Should he take this action and recuse himself, I will allow my Vice President ([nation=short]Right-winged nation[/nation]) to appoint the temporary Justice to sit in his place as I myself, would suffer from a conflict of interest in the appointment. Should this occur, it will be understood that the temporary appointment is not a permanent member of the Bench, and that Justice TNUS will still retain his seat.

Pursuant to the Third Branch Amendment, the deliberations and hearings must be private, but the Court is required to submit a Majority Opinion to explain their ruling and any member of the Bench is entitled to write a Dissenting Opinion disagreeing with the ruling (a ruling would require 2/3 to be handed down). I will consult my Attorney General and hope to hear expediently from the Court on the state of this Case, as well as Justice TNUS's recusation.

Yours, Ever Respectfully,

Humpheria

Dr. Humpheria, Jc.D

President of Libertatem VI X

Former Vice President of Libertatem

Former Chairman of the Board of Libertatem

Former Attorney General of Libertatem

Associate Justice, Commonwealth Supreme Court

Professor of Law Emeritus, Commonwealth Regional University

Miencraft, Rateria, The Aradites, Libertatem Gentem

This is what you missed Conservative_Idealism

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=488187

So what do y'all think about compulsory military service/national guardsmenship?

Teuberland

Greater Columbion wrote:So what do y'all think about compulsory military service/national guardsmenship?

The job of the state is to protect its citizens, not to force them to protect it. Ideally, it shouldn't be done at all. Realistically, it shouldn't be done unless the nation faces a military invasion. One large concern about drafting in general is that it can force citizens to compromise their beliefs in the name of the state's interests, even thought it is the state's job to protect their freedom of association. A horrid example is the Vietnam War. 50000 American troops laid down there lives, and you can bet that a number of them didn't choose to go. Opposition ranged from left-ideologies to simple pacifism, yet the state said "Hey, muh freedoms." and they lost theirs.

While we're discussing this, have you read "On the Rainy River?" It's a short story in the book "The Things They Carried," and it is a great example of peer pressure centered on an individual debating over whether to draft dodge.

Miencraft, Rateria, Condealism, Greater Columbion, Austex

To be brutally honest, I'm for it because liberals hate it and I'm against it because I don't like being told what to do.

I'm not qualified to have a legitimate opinion on that issue, you see.

Greater Columbion, Teuberland

Read that during my senior year of high school, btw. The whole book was thought-provoking, but as with everything in high school, the contents are kind of a blur due to the fact they only wanted me to regurgitate the material.

Greater Columbion, Teuberland

I can get why you would be uncomfortable with agreeing with progressives Condealism, but you just gotta go with what you think is right.

Perhaps it's the way many leftists promote their issues. It's hard to have a civil discussion on abortion with one without being called a Bible-thumper (called so ironically, given I'm for allowing nudist married homosexual couples to defend their marijuana farm and meth lab with AR15s), ignorant (by the people who called a near-minarchist a Bible-thumper), and to be told to shove said ignorant opinions up my pooper.

Greater Columbion

Greater Columbion wrote:So what do y'all think about compulsory military service/national guardsmenship?

If you make anything compulsory, your gonna have a bad time.

Miencraft, Humpheria, Rateria, Condealism, Greater Columbion, Austex, Teuberland

I can't understand what's so progressive about them. I don't remember the Democrats being the ones to support the abolition of slavery, women's suffrage, and the Civil Rights movement like the Republicans did, but it's not like I accuse them of sexism or racism. Yet they assume the worst from GOP silence regarding LGBT things and whatnot.

It's baffling.

Greater Columbion

Condealism wrote:I can't understand what's so progressive about them. I don't remember the Democrats being the ones to support the abolition of slavery, women's suffrage, and the Civil Rights movement like the Republicans did, but it's not like I accuse them of sexism or racism. Yet they assume the worst from GOP silence regarding LGBT things and whatnot.

It's baffling.

Granted the republicans ushered in the civil rights we know today, but I'd be willing to wager that Lincoln wouldn't be a republican today.

Rateria, Teuberland

Eh. Stuff like that was in the past. This is a different age of Democrats (except Sanders, since he was around for Civil Rights).

But as for their opposition they do have an interest in straw men. It's because they think they're apart of a movement. It's the same attitude any rebellious teenager has (which makes a lot of sense given that they're younger folks more often than not). Generally, they act like it's a black and white-good versus evil situation. I can admit thinking that way as a conservative, and if I had become a lefty I would have thought that way as well.

We all need to remind ourselves that we are individuals, who have good and bad traits.

Rateria, Condealism, Austex

Post self-deleted by Teuberland.

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