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Region: Libertatem
I feel like the UN at least has the potential to be beneficial. Of course I have serious problems with the way that it's set up, it impinges on countries' sovereignty and seems most heavily weighted in favor of countries who are powerful enough on their own. But if it were less of a tool used to justify war and more of a platform for negotiation, as you had said, I would support that through and through.
NATO, on the other hand, was a specific response to a specific threat. And once that threat was defeated, it ceased to serve any useful function. In practice it's an increasingliy strained alliance between countries whose interests are not aligned and I frankly don't see it lasting for more than maybe ten more years.
Alpaki
Sanctions need to stop.
The United States Of Patriots, Mentula Magna
Looks like I can apply for citizenship now. Yippee.
The New United States, New Jaslandia, Rateria, Alpaki
Swell, bruv.
Humpheria, Rateria
Personally, I think you're underestimating Sanders. In many places he's in a dead heat in Hillary, and in states like New York he has a strong lead. A Sanders nominee might just be a probability.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clintons-lead-is-evaporating-and-anxious-democrats-see-2008-all-over-again/2016/01/15/ebd8db3c-bacc-11e5-99f3-184bc379b12d_story.html?tid=hybrid_experimentrandom_2_na
https://youtu.be/nP8UXGX4XhE
Who's Misley? Bit out of the loop here.
Teuberland
The leader of The Red Fleet, the agressive communist raider group that we are In conflict with.
I see. So, we had a spy, in a nutshell?
They can fit spies in nutshells now?
NO ONE IS SAFE
Miencraft, New Jaslandia, Humpheria, Rateria, Teuberland, Lain Iwakura, Mentula Magna
https://youtu.be/IixG53KmWBY
This is only the begining! Inside nutshells is the first step, but soon, they can fit inside microscopic cells! They can infiltrate your body from the inside!
Actually, that sounds like a really great move idea. Quick! Someone get Steven Spielberg or Tim Burton on the phone!
Rateria
Bruh
lol hillary says she supports free markets.
Right-Winged Nation, Lain Iwakura, The New Republic Of The Galaxy
Least she has a sense of humor. Rare in a politician.
The Aradites, The New Republic Of The Galaxy, Mentula Magna
I heard that Sanders is catching up to Clinton.
THE SOCIALISTS ARE COMING!!!!!!!!
*jumps into a bunker*
Humpheria, The New Republic Of The Galaxy
Sanders being nominated could actually help the Republican candidate because he would probably scare away Centrist voters.
Rateria, Teuberland, The New Republic Of The Galaxy
Though, Trump could scare away centrist voters too if he gets nominated. If the final contest is between Trump and Sanders, I predict record-low voter turnout as centrists and moderates from both parties just stay home on election day.
Rateria
Or they could vote third-party.
Rateria
You all have very valid points, but most voters don't understand the incredibly efficient logic of Libertarianism (or at least I don't think so).
Mentula Magna
They'll learn.
Rateria, Mentula Magna
Hopefully they will learn. I myself am a Centrist, and I side with the Libertarians on several issues, so I would have no problem with a Libertarian president.
One thing: my dad is a Libertarian, and he agrees with you. To be honest, I think that you guys would like him.
And then we'll get a spoiler effect, which will lead to the opposite side winning (Democrats will win if Republicans split, Republicans win if Democrats split). Another reason why first-past-the-post voting like in the US sucks.
While I'm not a libertarian myself, I think a lot of Americans are libertarian at heart in the sense they are uninterested in the rhetoric of the social conservatives, but approve of the economic policies of the fiscal conservatives. It's that just our voting system discourages the rise of new parties; either we change our (as in, America's) voting system to something that facilitates more than two parties (alternative vote, mixed-member proportional, single transferable vote, etc), or the Libertarians have to displace either the Democrats or Republicans to become one of the two major parties.
What happens when both parties split, as I predict they will by the time of the general election?
Then it will be a clusterf*ck. No one will get a majority, and in the style of the 1824 election, the House of Representatives will choose a winner. It remains to be seen if the currently-Republican House would vote along party lines, or if it would actually vote based on who got the most votes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1824
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If Trump wins the Republican primary, neither party will have a genuine advantage.
Trump's hardline supporters will abandon him after the primary regardless of whether or not he wins, leaving only a faction of politically-clueless individuals of all ideologies and party affiliations. Meanwhile, Clinton is all but guaranteed to win the Democratic nomination; her campaign, however, is so weak that she, too, will fail to gain voters.
Then there's the fact that those not chosen to lead their respective parties will obviously attempt to resurrect their cults of personality under the guise of one of the third parties.
The 2016 election will indeed be a clusterf*ck if all goes as expected. The real question is, who will emerge from it as our next president?
New Jaslandia, Rateria
Does anyone here use Tails OS?
There was just a shooting in my neighborhood less than 3 blocks from my home :/
http://i.imgur.com/X5tD7M5.gif
But seriously, I just hope you and everyone else are okay.
Miencraft, Rateria, Teuberland
Thank you. Me and my family are all fine but one officer was killed and the other is expected to recover. One of the (expletive)bags was killed apparently its gang related. the other is still at large.
Miencraft, The New United States, New Jaslandia
Where do you live?
Utah
The New United States
People live there? Well best of luck to ya and bless the cop's family.
New Jaslandia, The United States Of Patriots
Read about that on Deseret News. Sad. :(
Well, of course. It is the best state in the union.
Found the Mormon, guys.
(Disclaimer: I make unoriginal and potentially offensive jokes. What else is new?)
The New United States, New Jaslandia, Rateria, Teuberland
"He used to be a caveman... ...but now he's a lawyer! Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer!"
This has been a public service announcement from your temporary, not-actually-chosen-from-the-people People's Attorney, made possible by imaginary donations from nations like you. Thank you.
New Jaslandia
How does a nation submit an issue?
Alderney and Liberty City
Majority Opinion
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=humpheria/detail=factbook/id=554248
New Jaslandia
My man
The New United States
Narland is ranked 57th in Libertatem and 128,137th in the world for Smartest Citizens, scoring 22 on the Average Edu-tellignce® Test Score.
Something is wrong with the way NS does stats. Narland is top 5 or 10% in the world for most scientifically advanced, most armed, least corrupt, lowest overall tax burden, most politically free, most pro-market, largest IT sector, and yet is top 10% in the world for stupidest citizens and most avoided.
The New United States, Rateria, Teuberland
If you meet certain requirements, there's a button at the bottom of the Issues page that reads "Want to contribute an issue to NationStates?"
You just click that.
So, does this mean I won my first case in Libertatem? Granted, I imagine the decision had more to do with the laws rather than my own persuasiveness, but still. Considering I didn't feel too sure of my performance in the trial, I'm kinda surprised, but in a good way.
Regardless, I'm quite impressed with the performance of People's Attorney Condealism during the trial, and I hope there are no hard feelings; I was merely doing my duty.
Yep. Congrats!
Heh, thanks - I was the AG myself for awhile, but that was probably the first time I did anything remotely lawyer-y; I'm surprised it went as well as it did, even though I'm disappointed by the verdict. No hard feelings :)
New Jaslandia
On the bright side, it seems it was a first time for both of us, and we were both surprised by our performances, which is certainly good. We both gave it our all, and perhaps another day we might be able to work together on a case!
These were extraordinary circumstances; I was just helping out a friend. Because that was the case, though, I really played hardball - needless to say, I'm extremely impressed that you stood your ground so well.
I don't intend to ever return to Libertatem, but I'm always available for consultations and whatnot, if you need me. (And occasional jokes on the RMB, though I wouldn't exactly call those needed.)
New Jaslandia, Rateria
Honestly, I'm surprised at how I did too. I had some info on the case, but not actually being there during the original incident obviously put me at an advantage. Still, I did my best to rely on the spirit and letter of the law, and I think we both did well at the end of the day. You were a worthy adversary. *insert smiley face with tongue sticking out emoticon here*
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Archive: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=505134
Are we not going to talk about the Delegate dilemma?
What's to talk about? Seeing as the only use for the Delegacy is to be the sole privilege of the President (who now can't use it), it should either remain empty or be filled simply by whomever has the most WA endorsements. It's not as though it's of any importance now that regional officer positions exist.
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Hell, the WAD literally does nothing. Their only privilege is being WAD.
Couldn't the WAD remove officers? Because if raiders come, seize the delegacy, and remove the power of the officers, we could have a problem.
The delegate has to have executive power to appoint officers.
No our Delegate is non executive and our founded account is shared by a few former presidents In case of emergencies. There is nothing wrong, RWN is a regional officer so he still can do everything he could do as WAD.
New Jaslandia
Sorry for the short delay in processing citizenship applications. The IA office is all caught up now. <3 Roads.
New Jaslandia, Rateria
Dammit, Roads, and you're the IA legend.
New Jaslandia, Muh Roads, Rateria
I'm a man of many titles.
Rateria
Regional Community News: Issue #14 On the Map!
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=514052
Archive: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=505134
That reminds me that our map here is in need of some updating... I need to do that.
Get out of Misley's swamp!
The above nation is not a citizen of LCRUA and has subsequently been banned.
Miencraft, Rateria, The Dark Lieutenant
George W. Bush: a man, faced with a Democratic Congress, who threatened to veto a bill that would have expanded hate crimes to include sexual orientation... but signed one of the biggest minimum wage increases in history.
It's tempting to call Obama the worst modern President. But then again, his predecessor was just as bad, if not worse.
And that's not even getting into NCLB.
Pevvania
Well, Obama vetoed the repeal ObamaCare thing. At least Bush was even somewhat on the right wing.
He also expanded a lot of the bad legislation that was pushed through under Bush.
I'm sticking with Obama as worst in recent times.
Miencraft, Parvimperia, The United States Of Patriots
You spin me right round baby right round
Pevvania, Rateria
Hail Roads. He died for our spins.
Miencraft, Pevvania, New Jaslandia, Muh Roads, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots
Vice President The Dark Lieutenant,
Just letting you know that even though you have the embassy power, as with all of your powers, you are only meant to use them in case the President can't. Only the Board and President have the authority to approve and create embassies.
Humph
Appellate Justice
Whoops, my apologies. I was working under the assumption that I had that power because it was assigned to me through regional officers.
What are embassies for? Is it just a way to post in someone else's region without moving?
Yes and no. It originally served little purpose beyond regions aligning with each other. For example, a Christian region would create embassies with other Christians. They served a role that extended from game alliances to a search map for nations moving around. It wasn't long ago that embassy posting became a thing. It is an option for embassy holders to open chat, as well as to vote in poles. So, there are several functions.
Mentula Magna
We just have the VP with powers in case of presidential incapacitation. Constitutionally, the Vice President has no power until the President is out of the picture.
"Elevator music has been replaced by thrash metal played at maximum volume" Yeah!
Rateria, Teuberland, Mentula Magna
>see economics video
>yaygoingtobefun.png
>starts spouting keynesian trash
>says how free markets sometimes fail bc of externalities that aren't accounted for by the market.
>"for example"
>ohno.ca
>"in a free market, a private business can count its costs, but not the costs of polluting the river"
>"that's how free markets can fail!"
>wtf.gif
>
>free market
>
>public river
>
>fkn choose one
Miencraft, Pevvania, Rateria
Indeed. As a current student of economics, I find it very difficult to wrap my head around 'market failure' in most contexts it's accused of being responsible for. Take healthcare, perhaps the most cited example. Keynesian economics contends that universal access to it - as in, state-distributed access - is beneficial and even necessary because everyone being healthy is better for the economy and society in general, (positive externalities) and that markets will usually under provide healthcare because many people will not be able to afford it. The simplicity of such thinking is due to the fact that these conclusions were drawn in the early 20th Century, when capitalism had not yet lifted all of society out of abject poverty, and when decent healthcare was expensive for ordinary people. But now, we live in an age where incomes have increased exponentially and technology has improved at a similar rate. We are perhaps at a point where healthcare in a free market could potentially be portable and low-cost for all. But unfortunately, in some countries state intervention has scrambled price signals and incentives so that the illusion of healthcare being always under provided by the market remains - despite the fact that the supply of healthcare has been limited by the government.
So what had in fact happened in America, for example, is that government has allowed demand to rise through population growth, but has restricted corresponding increases in supply through a multitude of means, such as heavily limiting the number of medical schools to keep doctors' wages high, for example, or outlawing interstate competition between health insurance providers. And because demand has risen without supply rising with it, there has been, as basic economics would tell us, a steady rise in the price level for healthcare in the last 50 years and thus problems with access and distribution. Prices can only come down if demand falls more than supply or supply rises more than demand.
The market can indeed provide healthcare to the poor - if the government will let it.
Miencraft, Rateria, The Aradites, Lain Iwakura, The United States Of Patriots, Mentula Magna
Like that whole thing with a bunch of people having control of Lib. Its a safety measure. A precaution if you will.
Yes... safety... *presses hands together and laughs maniacally*
Rateria
😉 Classic CI...
Rateria
Your alive!!
Fun Aradites fact:
One of the first posts on the RMB I ever made was asking if everyone here was a guy. Answer: yes.
Is it still the same now?
NationStates in general is kind of a sausage fest, though there are a few notable exceptions.
Ya, had to go through academic hell. But Ive returned...and I plan to stay a while. *High fives all around*
Muh Roads, Rateria
Ya probably, but its entirely possible more than half of all the girl nations are just one of [nation=vandoosa]'s many disguises haha.
(Check it Vanny. Shoot me a message sometime)
Teuberland
No, actually.
I'm a genderqueer mineral-kin.
The Aradites, Lain Iwakura, The United States Of Patriots
Hey guys, I used to be a resident of this region a looooong time ago (2013 I think), but got caught up with work and personal life. Anyways, i'm glad to be back, and I can already see this place has changed a lot.
Welcome back.
Last time I was here Pevvania was President.
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I have been on NS since 2013 but mainly just play the issues and post in the forum. I hang out, RL constraints keep me from being active w/ Libertatem. I hope you enjoy it here.
Is consensus still adamantly anti-world assembly?
Most of them are morons who just vote 'yes' on whatever shows up for vote. I don't know why anyone would be pro-WA personally.
Ankha, The United States Of Patriots
I guess things are pretty quiet around here lately.
Indeed.
Michalland, The United States Of Patriots
until the fat lady sings....
Things have really gone quiet. Where is everyone?
*cricket noise*
San Andrias, Rateria
Rateria, The United States Of Patriots
Teuberland
!!!!!!!
So... "Obama for supreme court."
Anyone else as disgusted that there are actually people who think that that's a good idea as I am?
Pevvania, The New United States, San Andrias, Right-Winged Nation, Kumquat Cove, Rateria, Parvimperia, The New Republic Of The Galaxy, The United States Of Patriots
Its so very, very, very Disturbing
The New United States, Ankha, Rateria
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