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Region: Libertatem
Around $545-$756 at a breeder in Northern Indiana.
Ah, that ain't too bad.
Thank you [nation=short]Republic of Minerva[/nation], for crafting our new-ish flag! I believe this is the first time we've ever changed flags.
The Anti-Communist banner works so well, though.
So you guys left the IRU?
Here is an idea. A flag that with blue background and in the center is Libertatem in yellow. Then have the names of several companies on the flag showing the pride of free market
Ages ago yes. But we would like to make this our new home. The other place was a bit chaotic.
We're capitalist, not corporatist.
Well, there was the IRU first. It was founded in September 2012. Then it collapsed (due in part to me, honestly, which I never meant to actually happen) in January 2013 and was re-founded as the Federation Of Free States. Everything was going great until February 2014, when the government slowly started getting stagnant. Now the citizens are talking about re-founding again. So Northern Prussia and I just skedaddled, and here we are!
Oh sorry.
Agreed. Join the Anti-Corporatist Party today, and just say no to big business!
Well, welcome to Libertatem.
Is ACOP heading up the MPA now that TTA betrayed the region?
Conservative Idealism, I feel like you're inescapable.
You know, I was going to offer to make us a new flag back when I announced my flag commissions, but I was like "Meh, it's fine as it is".
It's pretty good now though.
Am I the only who is confused. That's the same flag we had before.
Good news, everyone! (pauses for everyone to absorb Futurama reference)
This is Alchandria and this is my new main nation. I'll be moving Alchandria to ILA because this nation is really freaking cool.
Also, I am founding the Conservative liberal party to compete with the National Liberal party.
Will your primary membership remain in the RLP, or will you join the Minority Caucus?
No harm in making a suggestion! :)
I don't necessarily have a problem with big business, but big anything is open to corruption.
Just a reminder to TTA: you did not create the Democratic-Republican Party. It is one of this region's original parties, and a lot of great nations like ISA have put a lot of work into it.
That's an odd name isn't it?
The motto also isn't what he claims. Parties don't have mottos.
Haven't decided yet.
Alchandria, I'll find it quite uncomfortable addressing you by that name...
You can still call me Alchandria.
OK. Why'd you pick that name?
It's a Nietzsche reference. I also happen to be a staunch atheist.
It's new. It's shiny. Shiny new flag.
*slips invitation to atheist club into Alchandria's office*
You need to stay out of other people's office. Don't think I didn't find that dead bird in my desk.
Are you trying to be a troll?
That wasn't the plan, no. Never have I been a troll.
Is this a thing here, because if it isn't, it needs to be.
That was me, sorry. I must have gotten my lunch switched with yours.
I too would like an atheists club
*slinks into office and locks door minutes later shocked sounds of disgust are heard
You can do that
I think RRRG is the most atheist person on the face of the planet.
Who do you guys think said this?
"I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of
the Almighty Creator."
This human world of ours would be inconceivable without the
practical existence of a religious belief.
"I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so.
Anyone who dares to lay hands on the highest image of the Lord
commits sacrilege against the benevolent creator of this miracle and
contributes to the expulsion from paradise.
Was it Hitler?
I put my puppets to good use.
That you do.
I don't know, but this is a load of horse kaka.
That it was. Some people think he was an Atheist, but it was actually the opposite. He was a staunch Catholic.
Curious, has Federation Of Free States ever expressed interest in joining REATO? They seem to have similar goals...
Religion is just Something He used to try to some how Justify his evil deeds.
I'd advise against letting them. The Federation of Free States is a madhouse right now. Check out their RMB. I'm glad I left when I did.
Close, but not exactly. He was a nut. He just used religion along with other reasons to commit the atrocities he did.
Post self-deleted by The Amarican Empire.
It is sad when a Person uses a Religion that preaches peace for war and other evil deeds.
The region is an uproar. I wouldnt give an ounce of energy nor time to that place. It seems they have lost their way.
Yeah, it is a bit.
1933 to 1946 is my favorite period in history. I could talk about it all day.
"...lost their way." Let's redirect them onto the right path with a nuclear warhead.
Huh? Wasn't he pagan?
I'm glad I left a loooooong time ago.
Nope he sang in the halls of the almighty Christ himself.
I disagree.
Many of Hitler's closest friends identified him as having hated religion.
Goebbels wrote in 1941 that Hitler "hates Christianity, because it has crippled all that is noble in humanity."
Fred Taylor Translation; The Goebbels Diaries 1939-41; Hamish Hamilton Ltd; London; 1982; ISBN 0-241-10893-4; pp.304-305
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's long term aim was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
Sharkey, Word for Word/The Case Against the Nazis; How Hitler's Forces Planned To Destroy German Christianity, New York Times, 13 January 2002
The Nazi Master Plan: The Persecution of the Christian Churches, Rutgers Journal of Law and Religion, Winter 2001, publishing evidence compiled by the O.S.S. for the Nuremberg war-crimes trials of 1945 and 1946
Fischel, Jack R., Historical Dictionary of the Holocaust , p. 123, Scarecrow Press, 2010: The objective was to either destroy Christianity and restore the German gods of antiquity or to turn Jesus into an Aryan.
Dill, Marshall, Germany: a modern history , p. 365, University of Michigan Press, 1970: It seems no exaggeration to insist that the greatest challenge the Nazis had to face was their effort to eradicate Christianity in Germany or at least to subjugate it to their general world outlook.
Wheaton, Eliot Barculo The Nazi revolution, 19331935: prelude to calamity:with a background survey of the Weimar era, p. 290, 363, Doubleday 1968: The Nazis sought to "to eradicate Christianity in Germany root and branch."
Those are all of the sources stating hitler wanted to eradicate christianity. So you couldn't be more wrong.
No. He wasn't Pagan. He was Catholic. He had a sort of fascination with the Norse idea of Valhalla, but he wasn't Pagan.
Those are other opinions from other people that said Hitler hated Christianity. Besides hindering Germany's progress, Hitler claimed the reason to eradicate the Jews was because it was required to do so by the Almighty. This is what Mein Kampf states. Read his book, then maybe you'll know what you're talking about.
The anti-Semitism of the new movement (Christian Social movement)
was based on religious ideas instead of racial knowledge.
["Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]
My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, Gods truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian
and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord
at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the
Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight
against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with
deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact
that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As
a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have
the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice And if there is
anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is
the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty
to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and
work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only
for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning
and see these men standing in their queues and look into their
pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very
devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two
thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people
are plundered and exposed.
[Adolf Hitler, speech in Munich on April 12, 1922, countering a
political opponent, Count Lerchenfeld, who opposed antisemitism on
his personal Christian feelings. Published in "My New Order", quoted
in Freethought Today April 1990]
I am reading it and I am like 0.o
Still, think of the power....
Even when in power he removed the old testament since it was Jewish and inpure to his eyes for christianity
What do you all think about renouncing relations with FFS? They are rupturing at the seams and the mods have been called. They are dragging the IRU in, I think it would be wise to cut the cancer off before it spreads. Perhaps we can hold a House vote?
That's interesting. Even though SS head Heinrich Himmler was probably a pagan (not to mention the "Grail room" and the Wewelsburg castle basement, / pagan shrines he built in SS Headquaters, in Wewlesburg Castle.)
I second that (or however you blokes do this political thing)!
Maybe Hitler Said that he was Catholic to Please Southern Germany. Just like Napoleon told the Muslims he was Muslims and the Catholics that he was Catholic.
Hitler told people throughout his life that he was a Catholic. Even to his staff he told them he was a Catholic. When one of his Generals, Gerhard Engel, accused Hitler of being a Pagan, Hitler corrected him and stated that all his life he had been a Catholic.
What about some of you Citizens? What say you?
I think it is a good idea. This would show a loss in faith in their government. Which could lead to change of government for them.
If Hitler were pagan, it would explain pagan symbols being used in nazism such as:
Black Sun:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sun_(occult_symbol)
Odal rune:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odal_(rune)
As well as many Nordic runes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runic_insignia_of_the_Schutzstaffel
Those are traditional German symbols, some even in use today in various locations.
I am not sure. From my limited information, flipping the bird to such a large region could negatively damage relations in the long run. Who knows if former "allies" (I call them that because relations seem to have been both hot and cold in the past, to my knowledge) would turn against us, brother against brother? Still, cutting ties might be a good wake up call.
Or a condemnation?
I'm for cutting ties. The region is going to fragment in a matter of days (maybe even in a matter of hours). The next week will see droves of former FFS members flocking to various regions. It's happened before, it will happen again.
No. It's obvious that they're hurting, but as their allies, we should provide moral support. They can bounce back.
Quotes Establishing Hitler's Non-Christianity
Hitler may in public have claimed to be doing the will of God, but records of his private conversations show otherwise. Many of these were recorded by his secretary and published in a book called Hitler's Table Talk (Adolf Hitler, London, Weidenfeld & Nicholson, 1953). I have lifted the text of these from the soc.religion.christian newsgroup's Hitler FAQ.
Night of 11th-12th July, 1941
"National Socialism and religion cannot exist together....
"The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity....
"Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things." (p 6 & 7)
10th October, 1941, midday
"Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure." (p 43)
14th October, 1941, midday
"The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity....
"Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will collapse....
"...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little....
"Christianity <is> the liar....
"We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State." (p 49-52)
19th October, 1941, night
"The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity."
21st October, 1941, midday
"Originally, Christianity was merely an incarnation of Bolshevism, the destroyer....
"The decisive falsification of Jesus' <who he asserts many times was never a Jew> doctrine was the work of St.Paul. He gave himself to this work... for the purposes of personal exploitation....
"Didn't the world see, carried on right into the Middle Ages, the same old system of martyrs, tortures, f*ggots? Of old, it was in the name of Christianity. Today, it's in the name of Bolshevism. Yesterday the instigator was Saul: the instigator today, Mardochai. Saul was changed into St.Paul, and Mardochai into Karl Marx. By exterminating this pest, we shall do humanity a service of which our soldiers can have no idea." (p 63-65)
13th December, 1941, midnight
"Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery.... <here insults people who believe transubstantiation>....
"When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let's be the only people who are immunised against the disease." (p 118-119)
14th December, 1941, midday
"Kerrl, with noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Christianity. I don't believe the thing's possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself....
"Pure Christianity-- the Christianity of the catacombs-- is concerned with translating Christian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind. It is merely whole-hearted Bolshevism, under a tinsel of metaphysics." (p 119 & 120)
9th April, 1942, dinner
"There is something very unhealthy about Christianity." (p 339)
27th February, 1942, midday
"It would always be disagreeable for me to go down to posterity as a man who made concessions in this field. I realize that man, in his imperfection, can commit innumerable errors-- but to devote myself deliberately to errors, that is something I cannot do. I shall never come personally to terms with the Christian lie."
"Our epoch in the next 200 years will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity.... My regret will have been that I couldn't... behold <its demise>." (p 278)
I'll just leave this here.
Let us just agree to disagree, my friend. We can both see that Hitler was a nutcase.
Yes.
IMO we should wait before making a decision. See if the FFS gets their act together.
Aye to that
They will. I have faith that they will.
The FFS isn't going to get their act together. They're at a breaking point. Conservative Idealism, as much as I respect you, I think that you're for moral support only because you have a lot to lose in the FFS.
In my opinion Hitler was just a really smart asshole and he used antisemitism to unite germans against someone to make it easier to take over the world.
Antisemitism didn't unite Germans, having a powerful leader that didn't back down to others united them. The Antisemitism thing was just on the side.
My reasoning is that I have observed there for months, and you thought we were dysfunctional. Under their current government, they will be nothing but trouble. Still, I agree that we should not be hasty and something like this needs to be thoroughly thought through.
CI, honestly, after all that you have said on that RMB, I am not even going to humor you. You go over there and push to abandon the region to boost you true allegiance's numbers and then come over here and preach "dat you got da faith"!
Hey, you knew the risks when you let a pigeon breeder carry a copy of your office keys.
Also, why do I have a pigeon breeder in my employ?
And why does he have your office keys?
Also, it's ironic a bit that I looked over to the "latest forum topics" bit on the sidebar.
Top one is "God's Not Dead".
I haven't anything to lose, but they do. And while many of them haven't always trusted me, I still care about what happens to them.
But that motley crew of influential nations has been through worse. I'm certain they'll pull through.
No they won't. They are everyday shrinking, founderless, and further the trust between the government and the nations is dividing. They will fall and it will be a mess.
I like that region, but unlike you and your puppets, I don't pretend that my allegiance lies somewhere that it doesn't. I am concerned with the well-being of my region. I'd like to help them in any way I can, but my chief concern is with this region. And they may hurt my region.
Pev does not even have any real opposition in this Election.
None may challenge the keeper of secrets and live.
A lot of Hallo's supporters deserted him. I don't get it.
That's just creepy
Welcome Wreptzle. Any talk of what we have discussed is on the RMB.
Did anyone do any recruiting today?
Pev's been recruiting like a madman.
Pev has*
Okay, I didn't know about those two nations that were found and came here right away, I was just cur-i-us.
;)
Yea, i wondered the same thing a couple days ago.
Why hello there gentlemen.
You shall submit to the hivemind.
Welcome. FFS puppet, yes? Whom, if I may ask?
I have been delegated to inform everyone that FFS has recovered.
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