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Tupolite wrote:I assume that you're the owner of Libritalia

That's me actually.......

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:The fasces are not an exclusively Fascist symbol.

They are a symbol used frequently in American and French republican art and architecture. I've seen them within French masonic temples (and I believe in certain seals and coat of arms).

I am aware of the usage of the fasces in a non-fascist context (just look at the national emblem of France), but the particular image that Libritalia is using is lifted from the war flag of the Italian Social Republic.

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Libritalia wrote:That's me actually.......

I find it difficult to believe that you aren't the owner of "Koba the Dread" over here.

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:I was actually aware of that.

Then why make that comment? I was expressing my bafflement that there are two nations here that combined ancap colors with "authoritarian" themes and moreso that they appear to be separate people.

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Miri Islands wrote:Any particular reason for getting rid of it

It fell into disuse and I stopped maintaining it.

Auxorii wrote:Oh are we starting political parties again?

Reform 2: Electric Boogaloo

Auxorii, Rateria

Miencraft wrote:It fell into disuse and I stopped maintaining it.

Do you have a copy? I can edit it to put myself and any new entries into it

Terrible news in Argentina: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-50203727

Argentinians have voted to return the corrupt De Kirchner to power. Yes, she's technically vice president this time, but the power behind the throne is clear. How ironic the main concern is the economy, when the De Kirchners have strangled the economy in red tape, graft and corruption for almost two decades.

It is a shame that a reformer like Macri had to lose. I suppose either he was not implementing reforms fast enough, or the people lacked patience. Either way, a bad turn for Latin America.

Miencraft, The New United States, Miri Islands

Miri Islands wrote:Do you have a copy? I can edit it to put myself and any new entries into it

The map still exists in my factbooks.

The New United States, Rateria

Pevvania wrote:Either way, a bad turn for Latin America.

Not to mention the apparently anti-capitalist riots and protests in Chile, the most successful and free nation in South America.

Pevvania

The New United States wrote:Not to mention the apparently anti-capitalist riots and protests in Chile, the most successful and free nation in South America.

They are not “anti-capitalist”.

The New United States wrote:Not to mention the apparently anti-capitalist riots and protests in Chile, the most successful and free nation in South America.

Free and successful for the elite.

Miencraft wrote:The map still exists in my factbooks.

Ah, I was going to do a world map. If anyone would like to be on the map make a request and I will place you. Citizens have priority over non citizens

The New United States wrote:Not to mention the apparently anti-capitalist riots and protests in Chile, the most successful and free nation in South America.

I hear helicopters in the distance, and it's not fortunate son playing

Skaveria

I'm holding a vote to either reinstate the old map or do Miri's new map

Miri Islands wrote:Welcome meme ideology nation. You put me 3rd for lowest political freedom.

Thank you!

Tupolite wrote:I assume that you're the owner of Libritalia

I am not, actually.

Tupolite wrote:I find it difficult to believe that you aren't the owner of "Koba the Dread" over here.

Nope, hes not me. I am my own nation, thank you very much.

Jadentopian Order wrote:Free and successful for the elite.

you gay?

Pevvania

Jadentopian Order wrote:Free and successful for the elite.

Nope. http://freedomandsafety.com/en/content/blog/5-ways-capitalist-chile-much-better-socialist-venezuela

Rateria, Miri Islands

Every now and again, I will concede that the progressive, sjw types, do have a point. I just realised that for the entirety of my time here, I've just assumed that you're all men. Who here is a female, trans or cis? Just out of curiosity.

Rateria

Auxorii wrote:They are not “anti-capitalist”.

Yes, they are. They're trying to overturn the great reforms that have created the only developed, OECD country in Latin America. It always starts with "why can't we have free healthcare?" and always ends with "why can't we hunt rabbits for food?"

Narland, Miri Islands

Skaveria wrote:Every now and again, I will concede that the progressive, sjw types, do have a point. I just realised that for the entirety of my time here, I've just assumed that you're all men. Who here is a female, trans or cis? Just out of curiosity.

Lol to be fair the demographics of this game overwhelmingly lean towards young men in the Anglosphere.

Skaveria wrote:Every now and again, I will concede that the progressive, sjw types, do have a point. I just realised that for the entirety of my time here, I've just assumed that you're all men. Who here is a female, trans or cis? Just out of curiosity.

Politics and games like this appeal to men. Equality of outcome is not our concern. My brother got two girls to play but their nations CTE. Nothing is stopping them but they don't want to play as much as men. Another thing I would like to mention is I've seen MTF trans on this game but never a FTM yet again the biological brain sex differences are quite distinct and biological men prefer this game over biological females

Miri Islands wrote:I hear helicopters in the distance, and it's not fortunate son playing

Not to brag about your nation's obesity problem, but mine has the 3rd healthiest citizens in the region, surpassed only by TNUS and some puppet.

Skaveria wrote:Every now and again, I will concede that the progressive, sjw types, do have a point. I just realised that for the entirety of my time here, I've just assumed that you're all men. Who here is a female, trans or cis? Just out of curiosity.

Goldi is female, but she's hardly around.

Pevvania wrote:Yes, they are. They're trying to overturn the great reforms that have created the only developed, OECD country in Latin America. It always starts with "why can't we have free healthcare?" and always ends with "why can't we hunt rabbits for food?"

Don't be stupid. It's not a binary decision between capitalism and international socialism. Any who claim that capitalism delivers positive outcomes, much less fair ones, is just a liberal cretin.

Pevvania wrote:Nope. http://freedomandsafety.com/en/content/blog/5-ways-capitalist-chile-much-better-socialist-venezuela

https://i.imgur.com/0MXJZWn.png

Skaveria wrote:Every now and again, I will concede that the progressive, sjw types, do have a point. I just realised that for the entirety of my time here, I've just assumed that you're all men. Who here is a female, trans or cis? Just out of curiosity.

I mean I'm cis but I get called ma'am all the time and go with it. I'm not straight so there's some oppression points.

The States Of Balloon wrote:you gay?

https://i.imgur.com/wOSpJX0.png

Rateria

Tupolite wrote:

Don't be stupid. It's not a binary decision between capitalism and international socialism. Any who claim that capitalism delivers positive outcomes, much less fair ones, is just a liberal cretin.

There are quite a few different unnatural economic systems that sit between capitalism and socialism, no argument there. However there is no doubt that capitalism is simply the best system we have for providing abundance for all members of society

Jadentopian Order wrote:https://i.imgur.com/0MXJZWn.png

I mean I'm cis but I get called ma'am all the time and go with it. I'm not straight so there's some oppression points.

https://i.imgur.com/wOSpJX0.png

I'm gay too, I think Libertatem is probably 50% gay

Rateria, Skaveria

Miri Islands wrote:

I'm gay too, I think Libertatem is probably 50% gay

It aint called libergaytem for nothing.

On a serious note though, I’ve found myself calling myself gay or queer rather than bi a lot more recently. Idk how the rest of the region feels but I’ve never been one for the strict labels.

Rateria

Jadentopian Order wrote:It aint called libergaytem for nothing.

On a serious note though, I’ve found myself calling myself gay or queer rather than bi a lot more recently. Idk how the rest of the region feels but I’ve never been one for the strict labels.

I strictly have no attraction to women (even though I heavily denied it to the point I dated women) so I call myself strictly gay. If someone calls me a queer trying to be politically correct or some crap like that and i will have a problem.

Rateria

Unfortunately bisexual, working class, atheist doesn't put me very far up the victim hierarchy. White, male, cis privlege steamroles those in comparison. It doesn't matter anyways, my politics would put me on the side of the "privileged" even if I was a black, trans, muslim woman.

Rateria

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Jadentopian Order wrote:I mean I'm cis but I get called ma'am all the time and go with it. I'm not straight so there's some oppression points.

Tupolite wrote:Needless to say, I think we finally have a winner for "most annoying type of libertarian."

The States Of Balloon, Tupolite

Miri Islands wrote:There are quite a few different unnatural economic systems that sit between capitalism and socialism, no argument there. However there is no doubt that capitalism is simply the best system we have for providing abundance for all members of society

*undignified grumbling*

Jadentopian Order wrote:It aint called libergaytem for nothing.

I thought "Libergaytem" was just some callow joke at your own collective expense.

Jadentopian Order wrote:On a serious note though, I’ve found myself calling myself gay or queer rather than bi a lot more recently. Idk how the rest of the region feels but I’ve never been one for the strict labels.

Miri Islands wrote:I'm gay too, I think Libertatem is probably 50% gay

Skaveria wrote:Unfortunately bisexual, working class, atheist doesn't put me very far up the victim hierarchy. White, male, cis privlege steamroles those in comparison. It doesn't matter anyways, my politics would put me on the side of the "privileged" even if I was a black, trans, muslim woman.

You all disappoint me immensely.

Miri Islands wrote:I strictly have no attraction to women (even though I heavily denied it to the point I dated women) so I call myself strictly gay. If someone calls me a queer trying to be politically correct or some crap like that and i will have a problem.

I hadn’t considered queer being used in the context of being strictly gay. I think though, it’s generally used by the lgbt+ community to just mean “I’m not straight”. I’m not advocating for people to give up whatever they call themselves and just go by queer. Ultimately, it’s a matter of personal preference. I don’t mind it personally because being bi isn’t really 50/50 so I just go by whatever.

Skaveria wrote:Unfortunately bisexual, working class, atheist

Always wondered what the ratio of religious to atheists in the region was.

Rateria

Jadentopian Order wrote:Always wondered what the ratio of religious to atheists in the region was.

The New United States and Auxorii:everyone else

There's your ratio.

Tupolite wrote:

I thought "Libergaytem" was just some callow joke at your own collective expense.

You all disappoint me.

You’re the gayest one here bro

Rateria

Jadentopian Order wrote:You’re the gayest one here bro

I keep on itching for that suppress button only to despair upon the realization: It isn't there.

Tupolite wrote:I keep on itching for that suppress button only to despair upon the realization: It isn't there.

You remind me of one of those super conservative redneck southern gentleman types that makes their living off of hating gays, but really you’re smashing dudes on the side.

Rateria, Miri Islands

Jadentopian Order wrote:You remind me of one of those super conservative redneck southern gentleman types that makes their living off of hating gays, but really you’re smashing dudes on the side.

And you remind me of a fruit vendor explaining the jargon of his profession.

Look, even if you're a homosexual, why can't you at least try to embrace the vigorous masculinity which your very manhood behooves you to? Radical social change is not affected by the pitiable mewling of limp-wristed pantywaists, but by men who are manfully aware of the world around them and engage the spontaneous impulse to action to bend it to their will.

Tupolite wrote:And you remind me of a fruit vendor explaining the jargon of his profession.

One of us is happily gay, fruity, and making cash while having a nice discussion about my fruits with my fellow vendors. The other is a self-hating closeted gay fascist sitting outside the fruit vendors meeting yelling about nothing.

Rateria, Highway Eighty-Eight

Jadentopian Order wrote:One of us is happily gay, fruity, and making cash while having a nice discussion about my fruits with my fellow vendors. The other is a self-hating closeted gay fascist sitting outside the fruit vendors meeting yelling about nothing.

I hate you and good night

Tupolite wrote:I hate you and good night

Fascist owned yet again

gn😘

Rateria

Tupolite wrote:The New United States and Auxorii:everyone else

There's your ratio.

There are a few others. I think Narland said he's Protestant of some sort, Patriots is a Latter-day Saint (like me), and I believe Humph and Pev have said that they're Catholic at some point.

Rateria

Tupolite wrote:Don't be stupid. It's not a binary decision between capitalism and international socialism. Any who claim that capitalism delivers positive outcomes, much less fair ones, is just a liberal cretin.

I suppose I'm a cretin, then. Capitalism is morally and consequentially superior to every other system, and works best when state involvement is minimized. Deontologically, capitalism is the only system predicated on individual rights and voluntary interaction, and therefore will always be preferable to any system of coercion or control. Consequentially, history and economics shows the more planning you introduce in the economy, the more corruption, the more government or market failures, the degradation of living standards and very option the erosion of the political system that leads to a negative feedback loop of more disasters.

You're a fascist, right? Look at the disastrous outcomes fascist/third way economics produced in the 20th Century. Italy speaks for itself. Fascist Latin America, which you previously referenced as a model to emulate, produced nothing but cycles of despair and crisis after the initial Keynesian sugar-highs wore off, and the only country in the region to ever join the OECD (wealthy country status) is Chile, which did the opposite of what you advocate. The one exception, although not really, is Nazi Germany, which simply 'got out' of its depression by employing Germans in the defense industry, military and meaningless jobs to erect the facade of 'full employment'. Even still, Hitler's economic profligacy caused a severe market crash in 1937.

Miencraft, Rateria, Miri Islands

Jadentopian Order wrote:https://i.imgur.com/0MXJZWn.png

I mean I'm cis but I get called ma'am all the time and go with it. I'm not straight so there's some oppression points.

https://i.imgur.com/wOSpJX0.png

Chile leads the rest of the continent on all major developmental indicators.

I will be a capitalist shill to the day I die

Narland, Miri Islands

Has anyone here ever taken DMT?

Rateria

No, I don’t take any drugs

The New United States, Rateria

Suzi Island wrote:Has anyone here ever taken DMT?

"Pull that up real quick young Jamie."

Pevvania, Jadentopian Order

Jadentopian Order wrote:I hadn’t considered queer being used in the context of being strictly gay. I think though, it’s generally used by the lgbt+ community to just mean “I’m not straight”. I’m not advocating for people to give up whatever they call themselves and just go by queer. .

I've seen it used specifically to describe gender non conformists who don't have same sex attraction. I'm a LGB only gay so lumping me in with the gender confused is a problem. I'm not sure if queer isstill used in it's original context outside of California

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Pevvania wrote:I will be a capitalist shill to the day I die

I will be right there too. Like Sheamus in the FEE videos

Pevvania, Skaveria

Suzi Island wrote:Has anyone here ever taken DMT?

Let a friend take it in my room once, but I haven’t

Rateria

Suzi Island wrote:Has anyone here ever taken DMT?

*Joe Rogan noises*

All kidding aside, I have not taken DMT.

The New United States

Tupolite: “Ew, gay people.”

Jadentopia, Skaveria, and Miri Islands talking about being gay:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XUhVCoTsBaM

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:I am not an atheist.

You're a deist, aren't you?

Rateria wrote:Tupolite: “Ew, gay people.”

Jadentopia, Skaveria, and Miri Islands talking about being gay:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XUhVCoTsBaM

Hey, at least Skaveria and Miri Islands aren't completely fruity.

...

The New United States, save me.

The New United States, Rateria, Miri Islands

Tupolite wrote:

Hey, at least Skaveria and Miri Islands aren't completely fruity.

I'll take a compliment where I can get it

Narland, The New United States, Rateria, Tupolite

Miri Islands wrote:I'll take a compliment where I can get it

If you are a fruit, I can tell you're a piece of sharpened mango, whereas Jaden is a fermented peach or a pile of soggy grapes. You've got to draw the distinctions.

I feel obligated now to just indicate that 2/3 of the executive body and the head of the judiciary are homosexual and the 1/3 of the executive body that is not homosexual just so happens to be Wilhelm, who is so cosmopolitan that you can taste the espresso just being in five feet of him.

The Red Fleet, MT Army, and Legio Pacifica couldn't find more "progressive" demographic representation among their leadership if they tried.

Tupolite wrote:If you are a fruit, I can tell you're a piece of sharpened mango, whereas Jaden is a fermented peach or a pile of soggy grapes. You've got to draw the distinctions.

Woah no homo bro

Tupolite wrote:

I feel obligated now to just indicate that 2/3 of the executive body and the head of the judiciary are homosexual and the 1/3 of the executive body that is not homosexual just so happens to be Wilhelm, who is so cosmopolitan that you can taste the espresso just being in five feet of him.

The Red Fleet, MT Army, and Legio Pacifica couldn't find more "progressive" demographic representation among their leadership if they tried.

because communists like saying they represent people despite nobody supporting them. They do this alot with workers. Communists just care about power. Workers and minorities be damned

Tupolite wrote:If you are a fruit, I can tell you're a piece of sharpened mango, whereas Jaden is a fermented peach or a pile of soggy grapes. You've got to draw the distinctions.

I feel obligated now to just indicate that 2/3 of the executive body and the head of the judiciary are homosexual and the 1/3 of the executive body that is not homosexual just so happens to be Wilhelm, who is so cosmopolitan that you can taste the espresso just being in five feet of him.

The Red Fleet, MT Army, and Legio Pacifica couldn't find more "progressive" demographic representation among their leadership if they tried.

Homosexual deepstate finally being exposed thank you sir.

Rateria, Miri Islands

Tupolite wrote:If you are a fruit, I can tell you're a piece of sharpened mango, whereas Jaden is a fermented peach or a pile of soggy grapes. You've got to draw the distinctions.

I feel obligated now to just indicate that 2/3 of the executive body and the head of the judiciary are homosexual and the 1/3 of the executive body that is not homosexual just so happens to be Wilhelm, who is so cosmopolitan that you can taste the espresso just being in five feet of him.

The Red Fleet, MT Army, and Legio Pacifica couldn't find more "progressive" demographic representation among their leadership if they tried.

I'm not homosexual; I'm bisexual. I'm not secretly gay, a gay in training, or a flaming queer. I love my country, I love my military, I love my police. Besides you and Miri I'm probably the most nationalist person here. I literally made a whole party about it.

I don't bring up my sexuality like it's my entire personality like some flaming mango. I don't believe in any gods and I just so happen to occasionally get intimate with men. That has no bearing on any of my other beliefs, as much as a bisexual, atheistic, nationalist who likes markets might confuse people.

Miri Islands

Skaveria wrote:I'm not homosexual; I'm bisexual. I'm not secretly gay, a gay in training, or a flaming queer. I love my country, I love my military, I love my police. Besides you and Miri I'm probably the most nationalist person here. I literally made a whole party about it.

I don't bring up my sexuality like it's my entire personality like some flaming mango. I don't believe in any gods and I just so happen to occasionally get intimate with men. That has no bearing on any of my other beliefs, as much as a bisexual, atheistic, nationalist who likes markets might confuse people.

I think it's best if we drop this for now. Or take it to private conversation.

The New United States

Tupolite wrote:I think it's best if we drop this for now. Or take it to private conversation.

If you want to my discord is open

Tupolite wrote: take it to private conversation.

oh? ;)

Miencraft, Pevvania

Jadentopian Order wrote:oh? ;)

He's not inviting you out to coffee

Tupolite

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Blueflarst wrote:Tupolite so i am sure i knew you from something i had a half deleted telegram i was to send

We should probably communicate in TG

Tupolite wrote:The New United States, save me.

This conversation really doesn't have any substance; seems like we're just identifying ourselves by our sexual preferences, which in itself is a kind of reflection of the hyper-sexualization of our modern culture.

Not really much to contribute, besides saying that I'm a straight, cis-gendered man that affirms traditional gender norms, marriage as a heterosexual institution, and celibacy outside of marriage.

The United States Of Patriots, Skaveria, Tupolite

Miri Islands wrote:He's not inviting you out to coffee

Well I don’t want coffee with a fascist anyways

Jadentopian Order wrote:Well I don’t want coffee with a fascist anyways

Not if you're going to keep provocatively coming on to me, you maladjusted Bohemian. Brrrr.

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:For the record, Tupolite, I am a materialist who happens to also not be an atheist.

I don't care.

You seem to forget that my views on organized religion are ambivalent and reflected more by political realities concerning nationalistic movements than actual belief in the scriptures.

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Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:I didn't forget. I was commenting on something you said.

You still never clarified if you were a deist (as I expect, you old dog)

You can make DMT into tea; that’s the best way to do it.

I haven’t done it myself.

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The "Q" in LGBTQ, to me, seems to be meaningless. From what I've seen/heard/read from people in the LGBT community, 'queer' is just a catch-all term. So why not just say either 'queer' or 'LGBT'? Please, there's enough letters as it is. We don't need any more. As Dave Chappelle says, you guys have monopolized a fifth of the alphabet.

Miencraft, Miri Islands

Pevvania wrote:The "Q" in LGBTQ, to me, seems to be meaningless. From what I've seen/heard/read from people in the LGBT community, 'queer' is just a catch-all term. So why not just say either 'queer' or 'LGBT'? Please, there's enough letters as it is. We don't need any more. As Dave Chappelle says, you guys have monopolized a fifth of the alphabet.

I've started supporting LGB A. Everything beyond sexual orientation requires government intervention

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Miri Islands wrote:I've started supporting LGB A. Everything beyond sexual orientation requires government intervention

What is 'A'? Androgynous? Asexual?

Pevvania wrote:What is 'A'? Androgynous? Asexual?

Oh it's the LGB Alliance

Pevvania wrote:The "Q" in LGBTQ, to me, seems to be meaningless. From what I've seen/heard/read from people in the LGBT community, 'queer' is just a catch-all term. So why not just say either 'queer' or 'LGBT'? Please, there's enough letters as it is. We don't need any more. As Dave Chappelle says, you guys have monopolized a fifth of the alphabet.

That’s why I just say either LGBT+ OR Queer lol. Some people have a preference so I just use whichever 🤷‍♂️

Rateria

its funny how dmt is automatically associated with Joe Rogan. Also the A in that queer alphabet soup is asexual which seems to be the least oppressed of all of.them. Its not like anyone can tell if you are and you are competing for mates which along with competing for land is responible for 90% of all conflicts

Suzi Island wrote:its funny how dmt is automatically associated with Joe Rogan.

To be fair, I associate a lot of drugs with him. When you defeat all the other epic weed libertarians, Joe Rogan is the final boss.

Rateria

Jadentopian Order wrote:That’s why I just say either LGBT+ OR Queer lol. Some people have a preference so I just use whichever 🤷‍♂️

I've always just used "Gay", because half of LGBT literally means gay, another quarter is basically just half-gay, and then the last quarter isn't a sexuality so it doesn't belong in the alphabet soup anyways.

'course, this is compounded by the fact that, I, being a normal person could not possibly care less about who people want to screw, so I don't bother with labelling stuff for no reason.

Pevvania, Miri Islands

Jadentopian Order wrote:To be fair, I associate a lot of drugs with him. When you defeat all the other epic weed libertarians, Joe Rogan is the final boss.

"it makes you more aware of things. It makes you conscious. A lot of people assume that weed-smokers are lazy, that's not true. I blaze up every time I go train Jiu-Jitsu. Have you seen that video of me working the bag? Jamie pull that up."

Skaveria wrote:"it makes you more aware of things. It makes you conscious. A lot of people assume that weed-smokers are lazy, that's not true. I blaze up every time I go train Jiu-Jitsu. Have you seen that video of me working the bag? Jamie pull that up."

Every weed smoker I've meet is lazy with no exceptions and likes to blame everyone else for their problems

The New United States

Miencraft wrote:I've always just used "Gay", because half of LGBT literally means gay, another quarter is basically just half-gay, and then the last quarter isn't a sexuality so it doesn't belong in the alphabet soup anyways.

'course, this is compounded by the fact that, I, being a normal person could not possibly care less about who people want to screw, so I don't bother with labelling stuff for no reason.

I've just been using gay a lot too because it's easy and most people will just call themselves gay as a blanket term anyways.

Skaveria wrote:"it makes you more aware of things. It makes you conscious. A lot of people assume that weed-smokers are lazy, that's not true. I blaze up every time I go train Jiu-Jitsu. Have you seen that video of me working the bag? Jamie pull that up."

You know I really do think Joe has a point about that. Smoking and listening to music is really a different experience, you notice a lot more.

There's some measure of BAC that people say will improve your work because you're just drunk enough to suppress your inner doubts, but sober enough to have a grasp on what you're doing. I totally think there's something like this for weed. If you smoke just enough, it really does make you so much more aware.

I assume we’re curing for Z-Day. I just started researching, and I’ll need the help of everyone I can get.

Auxorii wrote:Seems more like a loose social group rather than a political party.

Like militant procrastinators who haven't gotten around to asserting themselves?

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:The fasces are not an exclusively Fascist symbol.

They are a symbol used frequently in American and French republican art and architecture. I've seen them within French masonic temples (and I believe in certain seals and coat of arms).

Yes, fasces are a neoclassical Republican symbol. According to Gen. Moss, (a civics textbook author from the early 20th century) the sticks represent Lawful (emphasis on Law) authority, The axe retributive justice and the tape binding authority (contractual and commercial) on behalf of the Polity -- that is the individual Citizen. It also represents the just power of duly constituted authority (of due process) to render capitol punishment when and where warranted.

For the US it is also the symbol of the Federal Senate. There was an actual physical fasces from 1789 that had to be present when the Senate convened. I am told it was retired to the archives, and the tradition abandoned when Mussolini rose to power. It is emblematic of where our Founding Fathers placed the seat of our compactual federated sovereignty between the States and the Federal government, the Senate.

For the Italian Fascists it was used for its (old) classical representation of executive dictatorial authority of the lictors.

The New United States, Rateria, Tupolite

The New United States wrote:There are a few others. I think Narland said he's Protestant of some sort, Patriots is a Latter-day Saint (like me), and I believe Humph and Pev have said that they're Catholic at some point.

American Non-Denominational booger-head who leans on the New Light Reformed (Jonathan Edwards) side of the Evangelical fence closer to Whitfield than Wesley with a distinct preference for mixed Presbyterian polity and local Congregational governance who grew up with one foot in the Society of Friends and the other in the Assemblies of God and hangs out with anyone from Caged Calvinists to Wesleyan Holiness/Pentecostal phreneticos at an intellectual (as opposed to anti-intellectual) local Community Church.

The New United States

Tupolite wrote:The New United States and Auxorii:everyone else

There's your ratio.

HEY

The New United States wrote:There are a few others. I think Narland said he's Protestant of some sort, Patriots is a Latter-day Saint (like me), and I believe Humph and Pev have said that they're Catholic at some point.

^

The New United States, Rateria, Tupolite

Rateria wrote:I assume we’re curing for Z-Day. I just started researching, and I’ll need the help of everyone I can get.

Oh, I already resorted to the military option. Seems to be working

The New United States, Rateria

Narland wrote:For the Italian Fascists it was used for its (old) classical representation of executive dictatorial authority of the lictors.

Also because the union of the individually fragile rods into a sturdy construct represented the integration of all dimensions of national life into a totalitarian state to stand against destructive influences

Narland, The New United States

How long till cure

The New United States, Rateria

Assembled with Dot's Region Saver.
Written by Refuge Isle.