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Region: Libertatem

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Miencraft wrote:Fire escapes were a thing, they just weren't a common thing because neither were fires.

But still. Safety regulations like that simply providing safety aren't bad. I mean ideally in your view people could not eat at or work at places without safety, but this viewdoesn't always work as some people have no choice in jobs, no matter what the situation, ehich is why I support those minimal regulations.

Given the title, though, you're clearly Communal.

Miencraft wrote:You're just a dumb troll.

In fact, looking at your history, I think you're Dred.

It's Communal Earth ya twit.

Gangimicklands wrote:My proof that Reagan doomed us all

http://somethgblue.hubpages.com/hub/Nibiru-Planet-X-April-22-2013-Aliens-and-Polar-Shift-are-Linked-by-Cover-Up

http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/01ju2013.htm

http://ultimatesurvival.net/february-26-update-the-latest-news-on-planet-x-and-nibiru/

http://pesn.com/2014/10/14/9602547_Incoming-Nibiru_is_why_Goverments_are_covertly-building_Underground-Cities/

I love the smell of pseudoscience in the morning.

But Pev, it's late at night.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:But still. Safety regulations like that simply providing safety aren't bad. I mean ideally in your view people could not eat at or work at places without safety, but this viewdoesn't always work as some people have no choice in jobs, no matter what the situation, ehich is why I support those minimal regulations.

How would one not have a choice?

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:It's Communal Earth ya twit.

I know.

They're both equal on the whole "knowing things" scale, though, so I don't see the difference.

Post self-deleted by Miencraft.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:But Pev, it's late at night.

From my perspective, it's early evening.

Oh, communal is back... grrrrrrrrr

Miencraft wrote:How would one not have a choice?

I know.

They're both equal on the whole "knowing things" scale, though, so I don't see the difference.

Coercion by bussiness, Family, Education, ect.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:Coercion by bussiness, Family, Education, ect.

That doesn't imply they have no options.

There are always options, and personally to remove those options is immoral. But as we all know, morality is subjective so that's not important.

Point is, there are no real situations where there are no choices.

Hello y'all I'm new to Nationstates.

Miencraft wrote:Fire escapes were a thing, they just weren't a common thing because neither were fires.

what he said

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:Is flat tax fair? Or is Progressive actually more fair?

Sorry I'm late, but...Flat tax is more fair.

Let's say there's a 10% tax rate, no ifs, ands, or buts. A man who makes a thousand a year is taxed a hundred, and a man who makes a hundred million a year has to pay ten million to his government.

Now, now, I know what you're going to say - "That's not hurting the millionaire enough. He's got enough money to get whatever he wants." Well, to that I say, what's the point in hurting him? He just gave the government ten million dollars, after all. It beats scaring him into hiding his money in offshore bank accounts, doesn't it?

Miencraft wrote:That doesn't imply they have no options.

There are always options, and personally to remove those options is immoral. But as we all know, morality is subjective so that's not important.

Point is, there are no real situations where there are no choices.

But still they still should have those safety options...I mean... we all should. Participating in a dangerous job when companies don't give proper safety regulations is very bad.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Sorry I'm late, but...Flat tax is more fair.

Let's say there's a 10% tax rate, no ifs, ands, or buts. A man who makes a thousand a year is taxed a hundred, and a man who makes a hundred million a year has to pay ten million to his government.

Now, now, I know what you're going to say - "That's not hurting the millionaire enough. He's got enough money to get whatever he wants." Well, to that I say, what's the point in hurting him? He just gave the government ten million dollars, after all. It beats scaring him into hiding his money in offshore bank accounts, doesn't it?

Also fair...point. I'm not gonna argue hurting the rich. I like the rich. Theu provide jobs... I'm simply worried about not wrecking the poor.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:But still they still should have those safety options...I mean... we all should. Participating in a dangerous job when companies don't give proper safety regulations is very bad.

So don't participate, protest the business, and force them to adopt them by ensuring they can't make any money.

It's sort of like how Jefferson (confirm please) said that we should have a rebellion every twenty years or so to make sure the government is working properly (by the way, we've got a dozen or so of those rebellions to get around to doing, if anyone wants to get those over with). Don't like how something's working? Change it yourself, or by your own will force it to change.

It's basically the entire premise to our country.

So tell me what is this region all about.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:Also fair...point. I'm not gonna argue hurting the rich. I like the rich. Theu provide jobs... I'm simply worried about not wrecking the poor.

If you only pay 3% of your income, then even if you make a dollar a year you're only paying three cents to the government. It's not really going to hurt anyone.

Nie Jestemtrollem wrote:So tell me what is this region all about.

FREEEEDOMMMMMMMM.

And fighting totalitarian, imperialistic communist regions.

Can the book, music and video sections please be updated? It's painful seeing them so untouched.

Nie Jestemtrollem wrote:So tell me what is this region all about.

Also, we love and support one another. And make fun of TTA

Nice you hold the same beliefs that religon holds.

Nie Jestemtrollem wrote:So tell me what is this region all about.

Freedom to everyone except fascists and communists.

Hahaha...

^Joking

Pevvania wrote:Can the book, music and video sections please be updated? It's painful seeing them so untouched.

Can you recommend a book, song, and video?

I've been looking but am unable to find suitable choices from my own collection.

And the only reason I can't find a book is because I have so many fantastic books in my library, but I don't know if they're available online for free or partially for free.

Nie Jestemtrollem wrote:Nice you hold the same beliefs that religon holds.

No. Religion says "here are some instructions. Follow them and you'll be rewarded by X when you die."

This region says "here you go. Here's a place to live." Then you ask, "what do I do?" The region responds, "I don't care."

Book: In Defense of Classical Liberalism, by Corey Iacono and Matt Palumbo. It's an empirical demolishment of statism, and it's done by the folks from the Facebook page Being Classically Liberal.

Music: The Riddle by Nick Kershaw.

For the song, do Roxanne by the Police

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Can confirm that if Anarcho-communism were next to this picture, I'd be able to correctly identify the nature of this picture sooner.

Anarco-Communism is completely viable but it requires complete volunteering.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:Anarco-Communism is completely viable

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:it requires complete volunteering.

Yeah, okay then.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:Anarco-Communism is completely viable but it requires complete volunteering.

I don't want to volunteer.

We now have a campaign banner! Show your support for Roads/CI! Factbooks and a surprise will be here soon! Bear with us!

Right-Winged Nation wrote:I don't want to volunteer.

I volunteer to support the anti-volunteer movement.

The Muh Roads Campaign wrote:We now have a campaign banner! Show your support for Roads/CI! Factbooks and a surprise will be here soon! Bear with us!

OK

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Ankha wrote:I volunteer to support the anti-volunteer movement.OK

Ankha. Long time no see.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:The Muh Roads Campaign is brought to you by this image:

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LOL!

My telegram box is being quite overloaded ATM. Sorry for the lack of responses on the RMB.

Ankha wrote:I volunteer to support the anti-volunteer movement.OK

YOU!

Vote Muh Roads for muh President.

Northern Prussia wrote:Vote Muh Roads for muh President.

Thank you for the support! Check out our propaganda page on the fact book!

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Vote Calvin Coolidge 2014.

Or Miencraft, that would work too.

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Wait a minute, we didn't build those roads.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Wait a minute, we didn't build those roads.

Have you checked your privilege lately?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQFxbo2PH8k

LOL, You didn't build that

The Muh Roads Campaign wrote:Have you checked your privilege lately?

What?

...Did you guys hear my littlw speech I gave on my Flip-Flopping?

The State Of Deseret wrote:...Did you guys hear my littlw speech I gave on my Flip-Flopping?

No, I was busy focusing on writing song parodies. I am the very model of a Libertatem Running Mate...

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:No, I was busy focusing on writing song parodies. I am the very model of a Libertatem Running Mate...

He has hobbies! Maybe he will make a fun Roads/CI song parody.. *wink wink*

One, two

A one, two, three, four

It's Muh Roads again

Just can't wait to work with Muh Roads again

The life I love is raiding statists with my friends

And I can't wait to vote for Muh Roads, again

Vote Muh Roads, again

To go places that we've never been

A population that we'll never see again

All only if you all vote Muh Roads, again

Yeah, Muh Roads, my friend

He'll make foreign affairs all work out the right way

Don't need to pretend

Our military will keep winning our way and our way

You'll vote Muh Roads? Again

I really hope you'll vote for Muh Roads, again

Don't know how many times I'll repeat this, my friends

Just make sure that you all vote Muh Roads again

Yeah, Muh Roads, my friend

State transparency is to work out the right way

It's statism's end

We'll show the Fleet it's our way or the highway

So vote Muh Roads, again

For it's this region here that he will defend

I don't think I've got the rhythm quite right, my friends

What's important is that you vote Muh Roads, again

It's starting to not sound like a word, "again"

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:One, two

A one, two, three, four

It's Muh Roads again

Just can't wait to work with Muh Roads again

The life I love is raiding statists with my friends

And I can't wait to vote for Muh Roads, again

Vote Muh Roads, again

To go places that we've never been

A population that we'll never see again

All only if you all vote Muh Roads, again

Yeah, Muh Roads, my friend

He'll make foreign affairs all work out the right way

Don't need to pretend

Our military will keep winning our way and our way

You'll vote Muh Roads? Again

I really hope you'll vote for Muh Roads, again

Don't know how many times I'll repeat this, my friends

Just make sure that you all vote Muh Roads again

Yeah, Muh Roads, my friend

State transparency is to work out the right way

It's statism's end

We'll show the Fleet it's our way or the highway

So vote Muh Roads, again

For it's this region here that he will defend

I don't think I've got the rhythm quite right, my friends

What's important is that you vote Muh Roads, again

It's starting to not sound like a word, "again"

Just look at this guy! He said a couple hours and did this in 20 minutes! #ACOP

Muh Roads wrote:Just look at this guy! He said a couple hours and did this in 20 minutes! #ACOP

Admittedly, I kind of rushed it. :P

[B]PROSPERITY AT HOME, PRESTIGE ABROAD, VOTE MIENCRAFT 2014[/B]

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Declaration of Hostilities

The Constitution of Libertatem grants the Board the power to create war and make peace. Following this principle, the Board has taken action on a recent attack on a small ally. Civogi a fledgling group of thugs used our friends in the United International Nations as a practice raid, meaning they plan to continue offensive operations. As a means of lawfully containing and neutralizing this threat, the Board voted in favor of open hostilities.

Hostilities Entail:

- Intervening in any active Civogi operation

- Liberating any Civogi occupied region

- Collecting intelligence on Civogi operations

Board Members that voted in favor:

[nation]Humpheria[/nation]

[nation]Right-winged nation[/nation]

[nation]Yrellian Confederacy[/nation]

Board Members that abstained or did not vote:

[nation]Rotgeheim[/nation]

[nation]The Neo-Confederate States of America[/nation]

Signed, Effective,

Humpheria

[nation=short]Humpheria[/nation]

Chairman of the Board

President VI

Attorney General

Libertatem

Just finished an actual debate in my class regarding Laissez Faire economics vs. Government intervention.

I was the only one for Minimal Government Intervention almost everyone wanted Heavier Intervention and one person in which I murdered practically was fighting for Laissez Faire. To be honest though it was easy as his only argument was freedom. He used no actual principles of anything in his argument.

Also the guys in the region are only doing defensive stuff they said...and attacked our allies only because they seemed inactive...this is a pointless war deceleration.

The State Of Deseret wrote:Also the guys in the region are only doing defensive stuff they said...and attacked our allies only because they seemed inactive...this is a pointless war deceleration.

It's not a war declaration, it's hostilities. We are hostile to them.

Humpheria wrote:It's not a war declaration, it's hostilities. We are hostile to them.

Ah...Okau

The State Of Deseret wrote:Also the guys in the region are only doing defensive stuff they said...and attacked our allies only because they seemed inactive...this is a pointless war deceleration.

THANK YOU!!!

The State Of Deseret wrote:Also the guys in the region are only doing defensive stuff they said...and attacked our allies only because they seemed inactive...this is a pointless war deceleration.

Regardless, we are simply covering the bases for someone that attacked our allies. We had no way of knowing that they would claim to be defensive. Especially when the only thing we have to go on is an unwarranted attack.

It may have been practice, but it was still an attack, I hope that they got it down with that one because we will be watching them from now on.

Humpheria Cant Even Link Correctly Bro wrote:THANK YOU!!!

Aww, is somebody angwy? Im sowwy.

It should be noted, to the Minority groups that we have here, that this is not an arm of the War on Communism, just a response to the attack.

Humpheria wrote:It should be noted, to the Minority groups that we have here, that this is not an arm of the War on Communism, just a response to the attack.

Fair enough. I figured given the practice raid. I am not against it if thwy attacked an ally.

Anyways,

There's a rumor at my school that a student said he was going to shoot up our school.

I take rumors as a grain of salt usually but thus rumor is much more serious than most.

So guys, last year the gov. shut down for Christmas and it is likely to do that again, since the inauguration will be Jan. 1st, do you guys think that 17th-20th would be a good time for elections?

The Commonwealth of Democratic Nations has been officially declared dead. All current CDN members are being advised to move to Libertatem. Thank you for all your support!

Humpheria wrote:So guys, last year the gov. shut down for Christmas and it is likely to do that again, since the inauguration will be Jan. 1st, do you guys think that 17th-20th would be a good time for elections?

Yeah, that's a pretty good idea.

Humpheria wrote:It's not a war declaration, it's hostilities. We are hostile to them.

Oookay then. I had hoped we could have been a bit more merciful and diplomatic, but, eh, that works too, I guess.

Back from my Vacation to New British Empire.

Cdn Diplomatic Mission wrote:The Commonwealth of Democratic Nations has been officially declared dead. All current CDN members are being advised to move to Libertatem. Thank you for all your support!

You are all welcome here, I am saddened to see the CDN go.

Shermaniya wrote:Back from my Vacation to New British Empire.

I take it you were the one to talk the CDN into a merger? Impressive.

Post self-deleted by Kanatistan.

Assuming that elections are done between the 16th-20th, the Board again invites all campaigns to participate in the traditional Board-sponsored Presidential Debates. Majority Leader Right-winged nation will be this year's moderator.

Citizens: please telegram any questions you have for the candidates, please send it to me or RWN.

The State Of Deseret wrote:Presidential debates?

Yes. We have had them ever since Pev's third run. They are sponsored and conducted by the Board.

Post self-deleted by The State Of Deseret.

#1 in civil rights? /criestearsoffreedom

Muh Roads wrote:#1 in civil rights? /criestearsoffreedom

Will you participate in the debate?

Humpheria wrote:Will you participate in the debate?

Of course. Providing it is in the evening, say 6ish central time.

Muh Roads wrote:Of course. Providing it is in the evening, say 6ish central time.

*past 6ish.

If there are any events for VP candidates, I'll see if I can participate as well.

While I would love to sway more votes in my favor, I'd be very impressed to see more of you step up for the position of President. With so many intelligent minds in Libertatem we surely have more individuals interested in presidency right?

The State Of Deseret wrote:Fair enough. I figured given the practice raid. I am not against it if thwy attacked an ally.

Anyways,

There's a rumor at my school that a student said he was going to shoot up our school.

I take rumors as a grain of salt usually but thus rumor is much more serious than most.

Today, because of this kind of rumor, an entire high school in Zurich has been put under a terrorist attack threat, and thousands of students had to barricade themselves in their classes while dozens of heavily armed policemen were patrolling the halls...

Lol, at least we finally got something interesting in the Swiss press !

And our merge with the CDN members is pretty good news !

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:If there are any events for VP candidates, I'll see if I can participate as well.

Considering that I would also like to do that we can have an unofficial debate. Like the US VP debates, it would have absolutely no impact on the election, but it would be fun.

Hey, everybody! Check out our new official campaign propaganda! Please feel free to make this your flag to show your support for your favorite Presidential Candidate!

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:Today, because of this kind of rumor, an entire high school in Zurich has been put under a terrorist attack threat, and thousands of students had to barricade themselves in their classes while dozens of heavily armed policemen were patrolling the halls...

Lol, at least we finally got something interesting in the Swiss press !

And nothing happened thank god...

If we get past tommrow I'll be completely worry free

Humpheria wrote:Declaration of Hostilities

The Constitution of Libertatem grants the Board the power to create war and make peace. Following this principle, the Board has taken action on a recent attack on a small ally. Civogi a fledgling group of thugs used our friends in the United International Nations as a practice raid, meaning they plan to continue offensive operations. As a means of lawfully containing and neutralizing this threat, the Board voted in favor of open hostilities.

Hostilities Entail:

- Intervening in any active Civogi operation

- Liberating any Civogi occupied region

- Collecting intelligence on Civogi operations

Board Members that voted in favor:

[nation]Humpheria[/nation]

[nation]Right-winged nation[/nation]

[nation]Yrellian Confederacy[/nation]

Board Members that abstained or did not vote:

[nation]Rotgeheim[/nation]

[nation]The Neo-Confederate States of America[/nation]

Signed, Effective,

Humpheria

[nation=short]Humpheria[/nation]

Chairman of the Board

President VI

Attorney General

Libertatem

1. I don't particularly like being called a thug as I am not, and don't try to be.

2.We raided an inactive region thinking that no-one would mind, and when we were asked to leave, we did.

3.It was to see what we could do, not to begin raiding, so saying that we plan to continue offensive operations is wrong

I personally don't see our wrong here. Yes, we raided your allied region, but we had no idea that you would get upset, as you didn't even have embassies with them. If you guys would like to explain what we did to earn this, please do.

Oudestesos wrote:as you didn't even have embassies with them.

Actually,

6 hours ago: The Republic of New Humpheria of the region United Independent Nations cancelled the closure of its embassies in Libertatem.

We did, and we do.

Yeah, we take the defense of our allies pretty seriously here in Libertatem. While I'm willing to call your raid an honest mistake, the fact is that there are three Board members who beg to differ - their decision trumps mine.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Actually,

6 hours ago: The Republic of New Humpheria of the region United Independent Nations cancelled the closure of its embassies in Libertatem.

We did, and we do.

Yeah, we take the defense of our allies pretty seriously here in Libertatem. While I'm willing to call your raid an honest mistake, the fact is that there are three Board members who beg to differ - their decision trumps mine.

Okay, i was wrong on the first thing.

But seriously, The last post was 5 days (If i am correct) before our raid, and before that was 7 days. come on! It was very inactive! we had no reason to believe that you guys would get this mad.

Oudestesos wrote:Okay, i was wrong on the first thing.

But seriously, The last post was 5 days (If i am correct) before our raid, and before that was 7 days. come on! It was very inactive! we had no reason to believe that you guys would get this mad.

No offense, but I can tell you're kind of new to this raiding thing - a diligent, yet somewhat inexperienced raider would find the ideal target to be a region that hasn't stirred for at least a couple of weeks.

In any case, a little research goes a long way. If Libertatem has an embassy with a region, chances are we'll endeavor to defend it if it gets raided.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:No offense, but I can tell you're kind of new to this raiding thing - a diligent, yet somewhat inexperienced raider would find the ideal target to be a region that hasn't stirred for at least a couple of weeks.

Yes i am new. as you remember, this was a practice raid.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:In any case, a little research goes a long way. If Libertatem has an embassy with a region, chances are we'll endeavor to defend it if it gets raided.

Yes, but we were given no chance by "the board" to get out of the region and continue on our way. There is something called benefit of the doubt. maybe you've heard of it?

So. Guys. I have an announcement.

I will be running for President as an Independent. I have been helping both candidates. I have given them advice and resources, now I will leave them to their own devices to work on my own.

I will stay on Miencraft's ticket and he will be on my as the VP candidate. I humbly ask for you vote.

Humpheria wrote:So. Guys. I have an announcement.

I will be running for President as an Independent. I have been helping both candidates. I have given them advice and resources, now I will leave them to their own devices to work on my own.

I will stay on Miencraft's ticket and he will be on my as the VP candidate. I humbly ask for you vote.

Humpheria: Now the Everything Candidate.

Miencraft wrote:Humpheria: Now the Everything Candidate.

Hey, so are you. Mr. Vice Presidential Candidate.

True on both counts, Oudestesos, but the majority of our elected legislative body does not see it that way.

Humpheria wrote:So. Guys. I have an announcement.

I will be running for President as an Independent. I have been helping both candidates. I have given them advice and resources, now I will leave them to their own devices to work on my own.

I will stay on Miencraft's ticket and he will be on my as the VP candidate. I humbly ask for you vote.

Works for me - I'm sure Muh Roads will be pleased to hear the Mien/Humph platform is now divided ;)

Oudestesos wrote:Yes, but we were given no chance by "the board" to get out of the region and continue on our way. There is something called benefit of the doubt. maybe you've heard of it?

This is WAR. There is no fairness here. Anything goes.

You should of done more research into the target you attacked. Or else you wouldn't have to suffer the consequences.

Now leave this region before I find away to attack and seize yours.

Humpheria wrote:Hey, so are you. Mr. Vice Presidential Candidate.

This is also true.

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