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Post by Hallo Island suppressed by a moderator.

Congratulations Time Alliance.

I look forward to working with you in the future.

Liberosia wrote:Libertatem,

I would like to announce that, after the resignation of my dear friend The Lone Star from the position of Attorney General, I have selected a member of this region to take his place.

After observations of discussions, assessment of ability, etc., I have chosen The Time Alliance as the region's next Attorney General until further notice.

Thanks,

Liberosia

a.k.a. that founder guy

Congratulations TTA

Also, CONGRATULATIONS TTA!!! YOU ARE ONE OF MY FAVORITE NATIONS!!!!!! YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Post by The Time Alliance suppressed by a moderator.

Oh, hey, looks like the seat one poll ended.

Post by The Time Alliance suppressed by a moderator.

What a Joy!!! Congrats!

Wow, that sounded British.

Einsiev wrote:What a Joy!!! Congrats!

Wow, that sounded British.

That moment when you read "That sounded British" in a generic British accent.

Post by Hallo Island suppressed by a moderator.

Hallo Island wrote:Trust me, I'm being genuine. Our beliefs are rather similar.

Except you're an anarchist and TTA is a statist

Hallo Island wrote:Trust me, I'm being genuine. Our beliefs are rather similar.

No they aren't.

Liberosia wrote:Except you're an anarchist and TTA is a statist

these kids today say the darndest things

I just noticed.

Democratic-Republican Party : DRP

DEmocratic-Republican Party : DERP

That's a thing.

I'm just sitting in my Conservative corner with Humpy.

Miencraft wrote:I just noticed.

Democratic-Republican Party : DRP

DEmocratic-Republican Party : DERP

That's a thing.

Quite sir. I sound bloody authentic now.

But I'm Irish.

Einsiev wrote:Quite sir. I sound bloody authentic now.

But I'm Irish.

Ghfhfhghfhgg

I started reading that in an Irish accent (the accent of a guy I know to be exact).

And then I read the part where it says "But I'm Irish", and then I felt like I was magic.

How do I even do this.

Miencraft wrote:That moment when you read "That sounded British" in a generic British accent.

Indeed.

Hallo Island wrote:Trust me, I'm being genuine. Our beliefs are rather similar.

Okay then.

Liberosia wrote:Except you're an anarchist and TTA is a statist

... I'm not statist. I'm just leftist economically.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Congrats, TTA.

Thank you.

Alchandria wrote:No they aren't.

Marriage Equality.

Miencraft wrote:I just noticed.

Democratic-Republican Party : DRP

DEmocratic-Republican Party : DERP

That's a thing.

.....Dang you.

The Time Alliance wrote:I have a question.

So why do we even have a board or government in this region?

Yeah, finally someone in the government that gets it!

I also have an announcement. After switching parties about 140000 times, I have decided to join the DRP, and yes, this is my final choice.

Congrats TTA you deserve a government position and I'm glad that you're finally getting your chance. Good luck.

Einsiev wrote:Or faggalicious.

I don't support homos but nevertheless, still treat them with respect.

Why their gayness annoys you? Or because god say it's wrong? Nice use of "homo" in the derogatory nature also, I'm sure Hallo and any other gay person in this region really appreciates that.

Okay, TTA, here's the thing. "Leftist economically" requires State action. You're for a lot of State run programs and interventions in the economy. State. Statism. S-t-a-t-ism. State

Anarchist Movement wrote:Yeah, finally someone in the government that gets it!

I swear you come just to annoy Me...

I like the Government. I was trying to point out hypocrisy.

Hallo Island wrote:I also have an announcement. After switching parties about 140000 times, I have decided to join the DRP, and yes, this is my final choice.

.... The First Active DRP member besides me!

Liberosia wrote:Liberosia

a.k.a. that founder guy

Heheheheheh

Hallo Island wrote:I also have an announcement. After switching parties about 140000 times, I have decided to join the DRP, and yes, this is my final choice.

I started a party but I can live with the DRP. It sounds fine.

Post by The Time Alliance suppressed by a moderator.

Einsiev wrote:I started a party but I can live with the DRP. It sounds fine.

You wanna join too?

The Time Alliance wrote:I swear you come just to annoy Me...

I like the Government. I was trying to point out hypocrisy. .... The First Active DRP member besides me!

*pops open champagne* *Cork takes out a window and Einsiev's eye*

Hallo Island wrote:*pops open champagne* *Cork takes out a window and Einsiev's eye*

....Dat my window bro.

Hallo Island wrote:*pops open champagne* *Cork takes out a window and Einsiev's eye*

*wraps a flag around Einsiev's wound to stop the bleeding*

Oh, don't worry, it's a template, I've got plenty. Also it's not an actual flag yet, just lines on a cloth.

The Time Alliance wrote:We just haven't discussed small businesses. Only overall economics.

Let me clarify my views.

The Government hurts small businesses at the moment by forcing businesses to do things. I understand the Government providing Welfare, Services and other help to people whom need it As well as Some reasonable regulations.

What

On second thought, I probably should have sent someone to get the cork out of there first.

Huh.

Ah, it'll be fine. We'll just use 'Tatem magic to fix everything.

The Time Alliance wrote:I swear you come just to annoy Me...

I like the Government. I was trying to point out hypocrisy. !

but you said you weren't a statist... I thought you were different than the others...

*falls to the ground and draws a 9mm* You dumbass! I told you not to point that at me!

The Time Alliance wrote:You wanna join too?

Nah.

The Time Alliance wrote:We just haven't discussed small businesses. Only overall economics.

Let me clarify my views.

The Government hurts small businesses at the moment by forcing businesses to do things. I understand the Government providing Welfare, Services and other help to people whom need it As well as Some reasonable regulations.

Both?

Nope, no voluntary association here

Liberosia wrote:What

I like: Government helping people who really need help and are actively trying to improve their situation.

I like: Government placing reasonable regulations on products and CO2 emissions

I like: Small businesses

I dislike: Government bailing out companies

I dislike: Companies paying for Presidential Elections

I dislike: Companies and employers being forced to do something against their rights or beliefs.

Anarchist Movement wrote:but you said you weren't a statist... I thought you were different than the others...

I'm NOT EITHER.

I'm..... Moderate.

I understand the pros of government and cons of government.

Lack There Of wrote:Nope, no voluntary association here

Huh?

The Time Alliance wrote:I like: Government helping people who really need help and are actively trying to improve their situation.

I like: Government placing reasonable regulations on products and CO2 emissions

I like: Small businesses

I dislike: Government bailing out companies

I dislike: Companies paying for Presidential Elections

I dislike: Companies and employers being forced to do something against their rights or beliefs.

Believe me, that's a lot more economically conservative than you give yourself credit for. Regardless, it's quite trusting of the state.

The Time Alliance wrote:I like: Government helping people who really need help and are actively trying to improve their situation.

I like: Government placing reasonable regulations on products and CO2 emissions

I like: Small businesses

I dislike: Government bailing out companies

I dislike: Companies paying for Presidential Elections

I dislike: Companies and employers being forced to do something against their rights or beliefs.

Socialistic Statist

Fascist

Yeah that's fine

Great!

Ehhh....

Good for you. Does that apply to having their property expropriated?

Conservatism amen.

I have a question for TTA concerning religion.

The Time Alliance wrote:I'm NOT EITHER.

I understand the pros of government and cons of government. Huh?

You kind of have to be one or the other. There really isn't a middle ground between a statist and an anarchist.

Alchandria wrote:I have a question for TTA concerning religion.

I will not speak.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Believe me, that's a lot more economically conservative than you give yourself credit for. Regardless, it's quite trusting of the state.

Hmm okay.

Liberosia wrote:Socialistic Statist

Fascist

Yeah that's fine

Great!

Ehhh....

Good for you. Does that apply to having their property expropriated?

A centrist. The only political belief where you can be called Fascist and Socialist. Hahaha.

Government repossession is terrible.

Alchandria wrote:I have a question for TTA concerning religion.

Oh yes?

Lack There Of wrote:You kind of have to be one or the other. There really isn't a middle ground between a statist and an anarchist.

There really is. I'm a minarchist.

Lack There Of wrote:You kind of have to be one or the other. There really isn't a middle ground between a statist and an anarchist.

Yes there is.

I dislike HUGE government but I understand the need for a government.

It's about Mormonism, so you don't really need to, Einsiev.

Alchandria wrote:I have a question for TTA concerning religion.

Can we not?

Actually socialism and fascism are born from the same movement and are quite similar when you take out the Marxian definitions of the two (even moreso when you see how they are used in today's context).

Centrists employ both socialism and fascism.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:There really is. I'm a minarchist.

No hate here for minarchism, but it still requires the presence of a state regardless of how miniscule and supposedly restrained it might be

Alchandria wrote:It's about Mormonism, so you don't really need to, Einsiev.

Actually you probably should just to stay on the safe side.

what I saw

The Time Alliance wrote:I .. need ... government.

What I read

The Time Alliance wrote:Yes there is.

I dislike HUGE government but I understand the need for a government.

Alchandria wrote:It's about Mormonism, so you don't really need to, Einsiev.

Yes?

Humpheria wrote:Can we not?

It's fine.

Liberosia wrote:Actually socialism and fascism are born from the same movement and are quite similar when you take out the Marxian definitions of the two (even moreso when you see how they are used in today's context).

Centrists employ both socialism and fascism.

Then I'm not a centrist. I hate Fascism.

Hallo Island wrote:Actually you probably should just to stay on the safe side.

It's fine.

Lack There Of wrote:what I saw

What I read

....Wow.

Lack There Of wrote:No hate here for minarchism, but it still requires the presence of a state regardless of how minuscule and supposedly restrained it might be

Right, but under ideal circumstances said state is kept in check by unbelievably strict restrictions, ones that I would imagine are much more impossible to bypass than the absoluteness of the Constitution.

For proper terms I am a

Left Libertarian Leaning Social Democratic Centrist.

Pardon me...when I say fascism, I mean it's economic system: corporatism/corporativism and its various forms. Not racism.

There's still time to move to International Liberty Alliance and get a Cabinet position under President Muh.

The Time Alliance wrote:

Oh yes?

So, about the whole thing where Mormons Baptize historical figures posthumously, Is that something you are all on board with, or is that crazy sounding to you too?

To those of you who don't know, some Mormons like to baptize dead people into Mormonism, such as the Pope, Hitler, Anne Frank and Joan of Ark.

When I see Fascism, I see a non racist Corporatist nationalistic government. I still don't agree with it.

Miencraft wrote:Right, but under ideal circumstances said [B]state[/B] is kept in check by unbelievably strict restrictions, ones that I would imagine are much more impossible to bypass than the absoluteness of the Constitution.

I recognize the ideals of minarchism, and am only trying to point out that there is still a state in the equation

Lack There Of wrote:I recognize the ideals of minarchism, and am only trying to point out that there is still a state in the equation

True, but at least it's infinitesimal. Probably the best we can end up doing, really.

I'm not quite sure on anarchy, really, a bit divided there.

The government is a territorial monopoly on law and the legal use of physical force. What could possibly go wrong.

Liberosia wrote:Pardon me...when I say fascism, I mean it's economic system: corporatism/corporativism and its various forms. Not racism.

...Oh.

I am actually 0 percent fascist.

Alchandria wrote:So, about the whole thing where Mormons Baptize historical figures posthumously, Is that something you are all on board with, or is that crazy sounding to you too?

To those of you who don't know, some Mormons like to baptize dead people into Mormonism, such as the Pope, Hitler, Anne Frank and Joan of Ark.

Before saying anything I am of the LDS sector of Mormonism not the fake "Fundamentalist" side....

We do not personally/purposely seek out famous people to baptize. I actually think baptizing famous people is against doctrine like baptizing a Jew is.

Here are my Economic policy leanings.

100%-Social Democracy

83%- Democratic Socialism

75%-Anarchism

67%-Marxism

42%-American Liberitarianism

33%-Totalitarianism

25%-Republicanism

8%- Neoliberalism

0%- FascismÂ

Miencraft wrote:True, but at least it's infinitesimal. Probably the best we can end up doing, really.

I'm not quite sure on anarchy, really, a bit divided there.

If I were a gambling man I would bet you loath progressivism. Naturally you would like to see the opposite unfold in a society. So if we follow the path directly opposite to progressives you end up in a society based on voluntary exchange.

Lack There Of wrote:If I were a gambling man I would bet you loath progressivism. Naturally you would like to see the opposite unfold in a society. So if we follow the path directly opposite to progressives you end up in a society based on voluntary exchange.

Huh.

You should start gambling.

Lack There Of wrote:If I were a gambling man I would bet you loath progressivism. Naturally you would like to see the opposite unfold in a society. So if we follow the path directly opposite to progressives you end up in a society based on voluntary exchange.

Yay Progressivism!

The Regulatory State was created by a partnership between Big Business and the State in order to squeeze the small businesses. Regulations and corporatist legislation (like Obamacare) create an artificial barrier to entry for entrepreneurs. This gives larger corporations a competitive edge and allows them to increase their relative profits.

Behind every State program is usually a large interest or corporation vying for State regulation to preserve its market share. In fact, the free, unregulated market is really all that can reduce a large corporation's power.

Liberosia wrote:Pardon me...when I say fascism, I mean it's economic system: corporatism/corporativism and its various forms. Not racism.

Hah, that's still ironic though. I mean, calling a leftist a fascist; that's something you don't see every day.

My beliefs.

Minarchistic Conservatism: 100%

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Hah, that's still ironic though. I mean, calling a leftist a fascist; that's something you don't see every day.

They aren't ideally, but their system inevitably facilitates it.

The Time Alliance wrote:Yay Progressivism!

I take everything back

Anarchist Movement wrote:I take everything back

Yay! The Anarchists don't like me.

I can check that off my political bucket list.

The Time Alliance wrote:Yay! The Anarchists don't like me.

I can check that off my political bucket list.

I would think that most people could

BREAKING NEWS: A car has exploded in Northern Zuchštejn killing 2 civilians and injuring 21. A man seen running from the scene was apparently carrying what looked to be a detonator for explosives. Police pursued but lost the man in the crowd as they were fleeing. More as this story develops.

Hallo Island wrote:*pops open champagne* *Cork takes out a window and Einsiev's eye*

Keynes would be proud.

Muh Roads wrote:Keynes would be proud.

Its good for the window making sector

Einsiev wrote:BREAKING NEWS: A car has exploded in Northern Zuchštejn killing 2 civilians and injuring 21. A man seen running from the scene was apparently carrying what looked to be a detonator for explosives. Police pursued but lost the man in the crowd as they were fleeing. More as this story develops.

Dat moment you check for real news on this.

The Time Alliance wrote:Dat moment you check for real news on this.

You mean to say that Nationstates has nothing to do with reality?

My entire life is a lie.

Lack There Of wrote:Its good for the window making sector

AND healthcare! Oh.. and the cleaners for all that blood.

What an economic genius.. (sarcasm)

Miencraft wrote:You mean to say that Nationstates has nothing to do with reality?

My entire life is a lie.

*crowd applauds in agreement*

Muh Roads wrote:AND healthcare! Oh.. and the cleaners for all that blood.

What an economic genius.. (sarcasm)

KRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!

Bwaaahahahahahaha n stuff.

Post self-deleted by The Time Alliance.

SO WORLD ELECTION TIME!

March 29th will be the date of TWO elections

The Sarawak (Malaysia), Balingian by-election: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balingian_by-election,_2014

and the The Slovak presidential election: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovak_presidential_election,_2014

Here are The parties I'll be supporting

Slovakia presidential election

(Direction – Social Democracy)

Balingian by-election

(Barisan Nasional)

On the anarchist/minarchist debate:

Anarchists believe that the rational actor will supremely take over - when this is not true. When a mob forms, it's participants are anything but rational. Go to any store on Black Friday and see how rational the actors behave. True, on some level this also happens in a government, but a government entity that is restrained knows what its priorities are and speaks for as many as possible. To that affect, governments are made the most accountable when they cover the most people - you don't want to enact any laws that will destabilize society (as it is a public demand). Whereas a private corporation or whatever, who wants to make as much money as possible, and don't worry if a few people get crushed by the crowd or the competition. After all, doesn't it benefit you when there are darwinistic laws operating to weed out some of the weak, those who are being nuisances (the homeless), and etc?

Another problem I have with anarcho-capitalism is that it cannot deal properly with what is called "the tradegy of the commons" without it devolving into an entity like the government or worse. For example, a law enforcement firm could protect a neighborhood, but even if that neighborhood is closed off, it still has to deal with people on the outside who benefit from their law enforcement. So what does a firm do? It draws up a quasi "social contract" that gives it the right to "tax" people who benefit from their services, regardless if they signed up to benefit from said service or not. Tada, the firm is now a government in all but name. This extends further - to the military and etc.

Ahhhh. Back, sorry I left.

From Einsiev:

"Copy and paste this to the RMB please.

This was a temporary move. I'll be back soon."

Nevermind Humpy.

BWAAAAAHAHAGAFHDGCGFD! We said the same crap.

Lol, why did you temporarily relocated to TFU?

It's classified.

Einsiev wrote:It's classified.

Go do more classified stuff on North Korea's board next. :p

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