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Hyderbourg wrote:I mean we were almost 60 under Bush.

Source? Not automatically doubting your claim but I was under the impression we dropped from something around 10th to 40th.

Muh Roads wrote:Bernie Sanders is the Supreme Cuck.

He is the greatest cuck of all. If he can't even stop BLM thugs from taking his podium, he certainly can't run the biggest economy in the world!

The Ambassador To The Clfr

In fact the major negative of the 2016 election cycle is that it's given Colonel Sanders a platform he didn't previously have. The Bushes are gone, the Clintons are gone, but for some reason a literal Communist sympathizer is now a respected politician at best and a household name at worst. I loathe that man and everything he stands for.

Hi, good point about Sanders the socialist. Also, the link to Hayek's book is wrong, it links to a book by Dr. Seuss.

Pevvania, Narland, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Vissers wrote:Hi, good point about Sanders the socialist. Also, the link to Hayek's book is wrong, it links to a book by Dr. Seuss.

Looks like someone forgot to change the URL part of the link!

MIINERRRRVAAAAAAAAAAAA.

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Vissers

Pevvania wrote:If anybody needs to contact Liberosia, whose real name is Connor, let me know. He hasn't been active on NationStates in a couple of years but we're Facebook friends and talk occasionally.

I have the keys to the car, ya dig?

Pevvania, Rateria

Remember folks - it's not a war if they can't bomb you back!

Rateria

If taxation if theft, then is theft taxation?

Pevvania wrote:Source? Not automatically doubting your claim but I was under the impression we dropped from something around 10th to 40th.

Click the little button that says, "rankings since 2002"

https://rsf.org/en/united-states

taxation is not theft, it is actually more like extortion. One pays it under the threat of violence, whereas theft involves using violence. Of course both are an initation of force, but I am not convinced extortion is a form of theft.

Republic Of Minerva

Vissers wrote:taxation is not theft, it is actually more like extortion. One pays it under the threat of violence, whereas theft involves using violence. Of course both are an initation of force, but I am not convinced extortion is a form of theft.

Extortion is the practice of obtaining something with the threat of force, while theft is the act of stealing. I'm sure you kept that in mind.

Narland, Condealism

Wow. I've never seen a Security-Council-resolution-in-voting make an invading force surrender before.

Feel free to vote against now, guys.

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Condealism wrote:Wow. I've never seen a Security-Council-resolution-in-voting make an invading force surrender before.

Feel free to vote against now, guys.

I noticed that too. I honestly thought that an incoming liberation would make the invaders try to hurry up the takeover.

Rateria wrote:Extortion is the practice of obtaining something with the threat of force, while theft is the act of stealing. I'm sure you kept that in mind.

Yes, but they are different things right? Only if you refuse the extortion does the government commit theft (and more probably..). So in convincing people it might be better to say that it is extortion, since for most people that is what their situation is like (although most of course also vote for everyone to be extorted...).

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Vissers wrote:Yes, but they are different things right? Only if you refuse the extortion does the government commit theft (and more probably..). So in convincing people it might be better to say that it is extortion, since for most people that is what their situation is like (although most of course also vote for everyone to be extorted...).

Ahhhhh... I get your point. Well said.

The United States Of Patriots, Vissers

The NAACP, Anti-Defamation League and Southern Poverty Law Centre are perhaps the most thoroughly discredited political organisations in the country. They began as civil rights groups that were instrumental in the fight against segregation, but sadly have evolved into little more than left-wing attack dogs and virtue signallers that yell 'RACIST!' whenever their Democratic overlords command them to. NAACP has been a wing of the DNC for years, and the SPLC and ADL expose their stupidity on a daily basis by doing things like declaring Pepe the Frog a hate symbol and referring to Ayaan Hirsi Ali as an 'anti-Muslim extremist', despite the fact that she is a Somali ex-Muslim who escaped forced marriage.

These vile race-baiters deserve no media coverage or mainstream attention. Bring back the real civil rights groups, please.

Miencraft, Narland, The United States Of Patriots, Vissers

Very easy to spot conservative double standards in the Fox News Facebook comment sections. Rubio asks Rex Tillerson if Putin is a war criminal, to which he replies "I would not use that term", and the Trumpists fire off about how it would be silly to label a world leader he's going to deal with as a war criminal. Guarantee you that if Obama or Kerry had been asked the same question and responded the same way 3 or 4 years ago the Republicans would have attacked them as 'weak' and 'pandering to dictators'. Sorry but you have to point out bias where you see it.

Narland, The United States Of Patriots, Vissers

Yes, I like neither Bush's nor Obama's policies, I like neither Barosso's, Schultz', Verhofstadt's and their ilk (EU federalists), and still I also don't like Poetin. Some like him because he is allegedly stronger on Islam, but why then does he work closely with the worst Islamic regime in terms of rethoric and terrorism - Iran, and their Shi'ite vassal Assad and terror proxy Hezbollah? Also there is a large muslim population in Russia which he want's please, just like the large muslim populations in former Soviet republics in central Asia, which he is trying to pull into his influence (Eurasian Union). Then of course there are certain conservatives who hate modernism and secularism (and confuse it deliberatly with post-modernism and 'progressive' leftism), these are essentially anti-western, and like Putin's (alleged) devout orthodox life. But most importantly it's people who have given up - or never believed in - small government, the rule of law etc., and just want to get back on these other statists that have ruled their lives for the last decades. Sad state of affairs.

Miencraft, Pevvania

Vissers wrote:Yes, I like neither Bush's nor Obama's policies, I like neither Barosso's, Schultz', Verhofstadt's and their ilk (EU federalists), and still I also don't like Poetin. Some like him because he is allegedly stronger on Islam, but why then does he work closely with the worst Islamic regime in terms of rethoric and terrorism - Iran, and their Shi'ite vassal Assad and terror proxy Hezbollah? Also there is a large muslim population in Russia which he want's please, just like the large muslim populations in former Soviet republics in central Asia, which he is trying to pull into his influence (Eurasian Union). Then of course there are certain conservatives who hate modernism and secularism (and confuse it deliberatly with post-modernism and 'progressive' leftism), these are essentially anti-western, and like Putin's (alleged) devout orthodox life. But most importantly it's people who have given up - or never believed in - small government, the rule of law etc., and just want to get back on these other statists that have ruled their lives for the last decades. Sad state of affairs.

I agree with everything you wrote. Indeed, Putin is perfectly ok with radical Islam fomenting within Russia as long as it's self-contained. For evidence please see the Islamic warlord that rules Chechnya with an iron fist, permitting underage marriages and all the other sorts of things you'd expect. Putin cares about one thing, which is power, and is responsible for turning a budding democracy into a corporatist, militaristic dictatorship. There is nothing to love about Putin.

At the same time, I think China is worse, both for it's status as the largest harbinger of Communism in the world and for it's aggressive projections of power. The US can gain more geopolitically by working with the Russians, which may even have the effect of sapping their momentum and weakening their global influence in the long run, while pivoting against the Chinese.

Miencraft, Narland, Vissers

Yes it is a big shame, a waste opportunity.

If Putin needs an adversary, let it be China, not the West. If Russia does not align itself with the US/Europe it will become a puppet/vassal of China at some point, if China doesn't meltdown like it has before in history. Although I am only mildly optimistic Trump will be better than Bush, on this topic he might achieve something, but only if he is tough with Putin instead of meakly 'willing to make a deal'.

Narland, The Ambassador To The Clfr

Pevvania wrote:Very easy to spot conservative double standards in the Fox News Facebook comment sections. Rubio asks Rex Tillerson if Putin is a war criminal, to which he replies "I would not use that term", and the Trumpists fire off about how it would be silly to label a world leader he's going to deal with as a war criminal. Guarantee you that if Obama or Kerry had been asked the same question and responded the same way 3 or 4 years ago the Republicans would have attacked them as 'weak' and 'pandering to dictators'. Sorry but you have to point out bias where you see it.

Another good example is Trump shutting down CNN at the press conference today. I'm old enough to remember when Obama did that to Fox it was an outrage

Vissers wrote:Yes it is a big shame, a waste opportunity.

If Putin needs an adversary, let it be China, not the West. If Russia does not align itself with the US/Europe it will become a puppet/vassal of China at some point, if China doesn't meltdown like it has before in history. Although I am only mildly optimistic Trump will be better than Bush, on this topic he might achieve something, but only if he is tough with Putin instead of meakly 'willing to make a deal'.

You need to consider the Middle East. What has Obama achieved by being tough on Putin? America has been snubbed by Russia, Turkey and Iran.

If you want the USA to lose more of its influence in the Middle East, be hard on Russia. I'm apathetic about Geopolitics so I don't really care if the US loses all of its influence.

But I do care about the cancer that is Islamic extremism that is threatening us in the west.

Pevvania wrote:The NAACP, Anti-Defamation League and Southern Poverty Law Centre are perhaps the most thoroughly discredited political organisations in the country. They began as civil rights groups that were instrumental in the fight against segregation, but sadly have evolved into little more than left-wing attack dogs and virtue signallers that yell 'RACIST!' whenever their Democratic overlords command them to. NAACP has been a wing of the DNC for years, and the SPLC and ADL expose their stupidity on a daily basis by doing things like declaring Pepe the Frog a hate symbol and referring to Ayaan Hirsi Ali as an 'anti-Muslim extremist', despite the fact that she is a Somali ex-Muslim who escaped forced marriage.

These vile race-baiters deserve no media coverage or mainstream attention. Bring back the real civil rights groups, please.

Pevvania wrote:Very easy to spot conservative double standards in the Fox News Facebook comment sections. Rubio asks Rex Tillerson if Putin is a war criminal, to which he replies "I would not use that term", and the Trumpists fire off about how it would be silly to label a world leader he's going to deal with as a war criminal. Guarantee you that if Obama or Kerry had been asked the same question and responded the same way 3 or 4 years ago the Republicans would have attacked them as 'weak' and 'pandering to dictators'. Sorry but you have to point out bias where you see it.

Major organizations being biased? That's impossible! We all know that the news is totally impartial!

Pevvania, Narland, The United States Of Patriots

Pevvania wrote:In fact the major negative of the 2016 election cycle is that it's given Colonel Sanders a platform he didn't previously have. The Bushes are gone, the Clintons are gone, but for some reason a literal Communist sympathizer is now a respected politician at best and a household name at worst. I loathe that man and everything he stands for.

My neighbor's bumper sticker from 2016 "No More Clintons, No More Bushes - Vote 'em all out" partially came true. :) Disestablish them all--national, state, and local. The only people in public office should be temporarily indentured exemplary citizens answering the call from their neighbors for a short time.

Call out all who in their delusions make external government a permanent fixture to shackle the hopes, aspirations and dreams of otherwise peaceable people from living their lives unhindered more loudly and persistently then they. Routinely point out Socialism/Marxism is perniciously inimical to life (ya wanna live dontcha?) liberty (you wanna do stuff doncha?), and prosperity (you wanna be able to eat, doncha?), and has failed everywhere it has been tried. This is the ground to stand on for 2020.

Pevvania wrote:The NAACP, Anti-Defamation League and Southern Poverty Law Centre are perhaps the most thoroughly discredited political organisations in the country. They began as civil rights groups that were instrumental in the fight against segregation, but sadly have evolved into little more than left-wing attack dogs and virtue signallers that yell 'RACIST!' whenever their Democratic overlords command them to. NAACP has been a wing of the DNC for years, and the SPLC and ADL expose their stupidity on a daily basis by doing things like declaring Pepe the Frog a hate symbol and referring to Ayaan Hirsi Ali as an 'anti-Muslim extremist', despite the fact that she is a Somali ex-Muslim who escaped forced marriage.

These vile race-baiters deserve no media coverage or mainstream attention. Bring back the real civil rights groups, please.

Follow the money... KGB documents (from after the fall of the USSR) show that many of them were front organizations--go figure. The left is desperately trying to hide the paper trail, and return to the false narrative of broadbushing any discourse as unbridled McCarthyism. Not only was McCarthy correct in all of his allegations, and following establish protocols, but it was much worse than he knew.

SPLC has its ties w/ CPUSA spinter group and care only about promoting cultural Marxism as prescribed norm for legal behaviour. Don't know much about the ADL, but even the ACLU was started as a CFO (Communist Front Organization) and Planned Parenthood is a holdover from the eugenicists in league with the American National Socialists.

The oldest civil rights group iirc is still the NRA (although I prefer GOA). The GOP Radicals (and their offshoots with the likes of the Freedman Movement) and Libertarians today, were/are mercilessly attacked by those whose means is to create a false Hegelian dialectic and ends are to advance their statism. True civil rights organizations are voluntary associations of individuals who live free and extend the courtesy to others, not the statists who are sadly enslaved by their own ideologies.

Vissers wrote:Yes, I like neither Bush's nor Obama's policies, I like neither Barosso's, Schultz', Verhofstadt's and their ilk (EU federalists), and still I also don't like Poetin. ... But most importantly it's people who have given up - or never believed in - small government, the rule of law etc., and just want to get back on these other statists that have ruled their lives for the last decades. Sad state of affairs.

Pevvania wrote:I agree with everything you wrote. Indeed, Putin is perfectly ok with radical Islam ... Putin cares about one thing, which is power, and is responsible for turning a budding democracy into a corporatist, militaristic dictatorship. There is nothing to love about Putin.

At the same time, I think China is worse, ... The US can gain more geopolitically by working with the Russians, which may even have the effect of sapping their momentum and weakening their global influence in the long run, while pivoting against the Chinese.

Vissers wrote:Yes it is a big shame, a waste opportunity.

If Putin needs an adversary, let it be China, ... only mildly optimistic Trump will be better than Bush, on this topic he might achieve something, but only if he is tough with Putin instead of meakly 'willing to make a deal'.

Exellent dialogue Vissers and Pevvania. I think George Washington said it best in his Farewell Address, "Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations-entangling alliances with none."

Pevvania, Vissers

Narland wrote:My neighbor's bumper sticker from 2016 "No More Clintons, No More Bushes - Vote 'em all out" partially came true. :) Disestablish them all--national, state, and local. The only people in public office should be temporarily indentured exemplary citizens answering the call from their neighbors for a short time.

Call out all who in their delusions make external government a permanent fixture to shackle the hopes, aspirations and dreams of otherwise peaceable people from living their lives unhindered more loudly and persistently then they. Routinely point out Socialism/Marxism is perniciously inimical to life (ya wanna live dontcha?) liberty (you wanna do stuff doncha?), and prosperity (you wanna be able to eat, doncha?), and has failed everywhere it has been tried. This is the ground to stand on for 2020.

Above policy, I think Bernie's image as being an 'honest politician' (lol), a 'straight-talker' and 'principled' matters a lot. The populism effect is being felt across the Atlantic, and a lot of people just care more about a politician's personality rather than, you know, how they would govern the country. This has aided politicians like Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage and Jeremy Corbyn in Britain, and of course Trump and Sanders in the USA. It's a sad fact of our media-obsessed world that people care about style over substance. Great example is the outgoing President. He's at 53% approval right now, going into office with 67%, despite the fact that during his entire tenure in office, a majority polled have said that the country is going in the wrong direction, with a range of 46% to 76%. So essentially, Americans have strongly disapproved of policy under the Obama administration, but on balance mildly approve of the job Obama is doing. This also explains why Democrats have lost 1000 seats in government since 2009 despite the fact that Obama was elected twice.

What are our thoughts on the repeal and replacement of Obamacare?

Condealism

Pevvania wrote:What are our thoughts on the repeal and replacement of Obamacare?

Repeal: yay

Replace: ugh

Vissers

Honestly right now I'm more interested in the reversal of Obamas last minute national monument designations.

I which he signed, from Hawaii on vacation, over one million acres of land into federal government control against the wishes of the state of Utah.

Huge slap in the face. The federal government already owns 65% of Utah.

For no real reason.

*sigh* I may have started ranting...

Pevvania, Vissers

The United States Of Patriots wrote:Repeal: yay

Replace: ugh

ACA must be replaced with something. Let's not forget that the healthcare system still needs reform and did so even before Obamacare. Medicaid, state lines, employer tax exemption, COBRA, new medical schools ban, FDA, etc. There's a lot of horrible horrible stuff that we need to get rid of. Trump's idea, individual tax credits and health savings accounts, were actually Libertarian Party platform ideas long before his campaign. Don't know if they're still part of the platform, but they were back in 2012/13 when I first took an interest in libertarianism.

The United States Of Patriots wrote:Honestly right now I'm more interested in the reversal of Obamas last minute national monument designations.

I which he signed, from Hawaii on vacation, over one million acres of land into federal government control against the wishes of the state of Utah.

Huge slap in the face. The federal government already owns 65% of Utah.

For no real reason.

*sigh* I may have started ranting...

You're completely right, the federal government owns obscene amounts of land out west. Why 'set aside' even more of it? The Reagan Administration floated an idea in the early 80s to privatise millions of acres of federal land, but they quickly pulled it when ranchers started complaining. Why they'd be against such an obviously common sense policy, God knows.

Kumquat Cove, Condealism, The United States Of Patriots

The United States Of Patriots wrote:Honestly right now I'm more interested in the reversal of Obamas last minute national monument designations.

I which he signed, from Hawaii on vacation, over one million acres of land into federal government control against the wishes of the state of Utah.

Huge slap in the face. The federal government already owns 65% of Utah.

For no real reason.

*sigh* I may have started ranting...

Are they at least going to do something useful with that land?

The United States Of Patriots

Pevvania wrote:What are our thoughts on the repeal and replacement of Obamacare?

The United States can't afford to keep half-assing the healthcare issue. As it turns out, "let's force poor people to have insurance" is a non-solution, particularly as implemented under Obamacare.

It's not enough to repeal it; a replacement is sorely needed.

Miencraft, Pevvania, Kumquat Cove, The United States Of Patriots

Condealism wrote:The United States can't afford to keep half-assing the healthcare issue. As it turns out, "let's force poor people to have insurance" is a non-solution, particularly as implemented under Obamacare.

It's not enough to repeal it; a replacement is sorely needed.

I remember talking about this with my contractor, he said that it was a pain in his rear end to deal with this process.

He, this is a pretty cool proposal:

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=verdovia_1484196617

The United States Of Patriots

Rateria wrote:Are they at least going to do something useful with that land?

Nooooope

Pevvania wrote:There's a lot of horrible horrible stuff that we need to get rid of.
...

Exactly, get rid of. I'm just worried what the replacement might be

Pevvania wrote:Trump's idea, individual tax credits and health savings accounts, were actually Libertarian Party platform ideas long before his campaign.

I believe that Trump actually took the idea from the Carson campaign. I'm not at all opposed to a savings account. I am however opposed to tax credits. while I am pretty much in favor of anything you can do to (legal) pay less in taxes, aren't tax credits "punishing" those who chose not to have health insurance? By relatively raising their tax bracket

Condealism wrote:...

It's not enough to repeal it; a replacement is sorely needed.

Practically speaking: your probably right

The United States Of Patriots wrote:Practically speaking: your probably right

though I would prefer the replacement to be an opt in program.

The United States Of Patriots wrote:Nooooope

Well, that's government for you!

The United States Of Patriots

today i was at my electoral districts youth council and we had taxpayer funded pizza. now imagine if there was no government.

no pizza

Pevvania, Narland, Rateria, Condealism, The United States Of Patriots, Shirayuki Mizore, Vissers

Post self-deleted by Narland.

Post self-deleted by Narland.

The Aradites wrote:today i was at my electoral districts youth council and we had taxpayer funded pizza. now imagine if there was no government.

no pizza

I quit! *walks out*

Pevvania wrote:Above policy, I think Bernie's image as being an 'honest politician' (lol), a 'straight-talker' and 'principled' matters a lot. The populism effect is being felt across the Atlantic, and a lot of people just care more about a politician's personality rather than, you know, how they would govern the country. This has aided politicians like Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage and Jeremy Corbyn in Britain, and of course Trump and Sanders in the USA. It's a sad fact of our media-obsessed world that people care about style over substance. Great example is the outgoing President. He's at 53% approval right now, going into office with 67%, despite the fact that during his entire tenure in office, a majority polled have said that the country is going in the wrong direction, with a range of 46% to 76%. So essentially, Americans have strongly disapproved of policy under the Obama administration, but on balance mildly approve of the job Obama is doing. This also explains why Democrats have lost 1000 seats in government since 2009 despite the fact that Obama was elected twice.

I think that the cult of personality is part of the human condition if history is any indication. Trust no one with your life, liberty or property, and never loan anyone your horse (car in today's parlance), your gun, or your wife.

Pevvania wrote:What are our thoughts on the repeal and replacement of Obamacare?

Repeal Obamacare and replace it with nothing--let the free market force insurance salesmen to prove themselves in open competition so they put up, shut up, or shut down. The last thing I want interfering in the inviolable relationship between my physician and myself are self-interested third party interlopers hamstringing my financial obligations--be it goverment or corporation.

Health insurance is not healthcare, and underwriters are not physicians--this is just a statist redistribution scheme to expand medicare. 1.3 Trillion USD spent for what? Having to get permission from an "insurer" to see a doctor? What a waste! People should be going to jail for this amount of fraud. It is a fool who would think that forcing apartment renters and homeless people to buy homeowners insurance is going to help them to own a home.

Return healthcare back to allowing it to be an independent self-governing professional charity of benevolent trusts and enterprises of self-employed healers in free association as it has been the last 3 thousand years in Western Civ. What hubris to think that a bunch of self-conceited narcissistic statists in the name of the state can do better than the doctors and patients themselves have over the millenia. Get bureaucrats out of the way, and return to it being illegal to make a profit off of the pain and suffering of others and interfering with the personal, private, and confidential doctor-patient privilege. Any insurance company that tries to insure too far outside the range of the -2nd sigma and the +2nd sigma percentile need to be investigated for fraud and abuse.

The Aradites wrote:today i was at my electoral districts youth council and we had taxpayer funded pizza. now imagine if there was no government.

no pizza

And no roads--muh roads. Nevermind that anyone with half a mind can get a d-9 cat and plow one, get a gravel truck or a paver--hire a former Morrison-Knudsen engineer to make it last 50 years without need of major repair.

Miencraft, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

When one cleans up a toxic waste dump, one does not replace it with another toxic waste dump. Obamacare should not be replaced for the same reasons.

Miencraft, Narland, The United States Of Patriots

The United States Of Patriots wrote:...

Exactly, get rid of. I'm just worried what the replacement might be

I believe that Trump actually took the idea from the Carson campaign. I'm not at all opposed to a savings account. I am however opposed to tax credits. while I am pretty much in favor of anything you can do to (legal) pay less in taxes, aren't tax credits "punishing" those who chose not to have health insurance? By relatively raising their tax bracket

Well I think tax credits are more of an incentive to get health insurance rather than compulsion, which we see in the individual mandate. It's a good idea for several reasons. It means that people can cut their tax bills down while perhaps getting healthcare for the first time, and perhaps an even bigger thing here is that it could shift healthcare to individuals and out-of-pocket payments as opposed to the employer-based system that has added so many hidden costs and driven up demand so much.

Another dumb thing about Obamacare is that it saddles insurers with many more requirements which are helping to make HC so expensive. When the cost of insurance is hidden and provided by employers, frivolous and unneeded items tend to get piled on without the individual's knowledge that have the effect of increasing care prices significantly. The ACA exacerbated the problem. It is just such a truly awful law and I'm very glad that Congress is already moving to gut it. I remember a few years ago a lot of the guys in the region were saying that it'll probably never get repealed because once a government program is in place it's very hard to get rid of. Not this time. We may be seeing the tide turn.

Miencraft, Narland, Condealism, The United States Of Patriots

The Aradites wrote:today i was at my electoral districts youth council and we had taxpayer funded pizza. now imagine if there was no government.

no pizza

You've sold me. More government must mean more pizza, therefore we must have the most government possible. Go fascism?

Miencraft, Narland, Rateria

The Ambassador To The Clfr wrote:When one cleans up a toxic waste dump, one does not replace it with another toxic waste dump.

Okay. Have fun with the backlog of toxic waste.

The Aradites wrote:today i was at my electoral districts youth council and we had taxpayer funded pizza. now imagine if there was no government.

no pizza

muh pizza!

Narland, Rateria, Vissers

Hey, Libertatem. I just proposed a SC resolution I thought you'd be interested in.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=united_massachusetts_1484486792

Narland, Rateria

United Massachusetts wrote:Hey, Libertatem. I just proposed a SC resolution I thought you'd be interested in.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=united_massachusetts_1484486792

Pretty good resolution, but submit it to the forums and proofread it before submitting it to the WA next time. Never go directly to the WA.

Narland, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Miencraft wrote:Pretty good resolution, but submit it to the forums and proofread it before submitting it to the WA next time. Never go directly to the WA.

I agree. I noticed an error or two, but like the resolution overall.

Hi folks. If you're friends with any WA delegates (including the one in your region), could you get them to approve this repeal of the Red Fleets commendation? If they already have, then I express my keen thanks.

page=UN_view_proposal/id=united_massachusetts_1484486792

Narland, Rateria

Partholonia wrote:Hi folks. If you're friends with any WA delegates (including the one in your region), could you get them to approve this repeal of the Red Fleets commendation? If they already have, then I express my keen thanks.

page=UN_view_proposal/id=united_massachusetts_1484486792

10/10 paying-attention skills.

United Massachusetts wrote:Hey, Libertatem. I just proposed a SC resolution I thought you'd be interested in.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=united_massachusetts_1484486792

Narland, Rateria, Condealism, The United States Of Patriots

Miencraft wrote:10/10 paying-attention skills.

I just posted this to a handful of embassy regions half asleep.

Trump's $20 trillion problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgpfswDHA_Y

In order to deliver on his big-ticket promises of tax cuts, a defense buildup and infrastructure tax credits, while keeping the debt under control and reducing the deficit, which he promised to do at the beginning of his campaign, Trump is going to have to make some monumental cuts and reforms. The 'penny plan' and cutting waste is simply not going to do. Block-granting Medicaid and voucherising Medicare, which are already on the Congressional agenda, is going to be a necessity, and most importantly Social Security needs to be friggin' reformed.

If memory serves me correctly Trump wants $800 billion worth of spending increases and revenue cuts, which would balloon the deficit to $1.2 trillion unless equivalent or greater cuts are made.

Thankfully, Mick Mulvaney, co-founder of the House Freedom Caucus and a big deficit hawk, is going to be taking over the Budget Office, which will hopefully bring some much-needed fiscal sanity to Washington. That being said, David Stockman and Mitch Daniels, who both sought to balance the federal budget, served under Reagan and Bush 43, respectively, and we all know how that turned out.

Narland

Open borders for all.

Fvck I just triggered alt right trolls and Bernie Sanders supporters.

Kumquat Cove, Condealism

Partholonia wrote:Hi folks. If you're friends with any WA delegates (including the one in your region), could you get them to approve this repeal of the Red Fleets commendation? If they already have, then I express my keen thanks.

page=UN_view_proposal/id=united_massachusetts_1484486792

Obviously, it has our full support. The Red Fleet deserves a condemnation, not a commendation.

Miencraft, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Vissers

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Open borders for all.

Fvck I just triggered alt right trolls and Bernie Sanders supporters.

Edgy.

The United States Of Patriots

Pevvania wrote:Trump's $20 trillion problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgpfswDHA_Y

In order to deliver on his big-ticket promises of tax cuts, a defense buildup and infrastructure tax credits, while keeping the debt under control and reducing the deficit, which he promised to do at the beginning of his campaign, Trump is going to have to make some monumental cuts and reforms. The 'penny plan' and cutting waste is simply not going to do. Block-granting Medicaid and voucherising Medicare, which are already on the Congressional agenda, is going to be a necessity, and most importantly Social Security needs to be friggin' reformed.

If memory serves me correctly Trump wants $800 billion worth of spending increases and revenue cuts, which would balloon the deficit to $1.2 trillion unless equivalent or greater cuts are made.

Thankfully, Mick Mulvaney, co-founder of the House Freedom Caucus and a big deficit hawk, is going to be taking over the Budget Office, which will hopefully bring some much-needed fiscal sanity to Washington. That being said, David Stockman and Mitch Daniels, who both sought to balance the federal budget, served under Reagan and Bush 43, respectively, and we all know how that turned out.

No problem. Drop all welfare and Obamacare.

Pevvania, Narland, The United States Of Patriots

Hey does anyone have recommended books about Brazilian history? Right now I'm wondering if there is anything particular about their involvement in World War II.

The Ambassador To The Clfr wrote:No problem. Drop all welfare and Obamacare.

Give this man a medal. It's such a simple concept that the out-of-touch Washington establishment fails to grasp.

Narland, The United States Of Patriots

Liberals: Trump is too soft on Putin, Russia is a sworn enemy of the US!

Also liberals: What's Trump doing upsetting the Chinese?! He could be risking war!

Condealism

I like Putin's dogs. They should be Putin charge.

Pevvania, Rateria

Great news for liberty today - Theresa May announces that the UK will leave the entirety of the EU, including the corrupt single market, Trump pledges that the UK will swiftly get a trade deal, and Obama has pardoned Chelsea Manning. Good stuff!

Miencraft, Republic Of Minerva, The United States Of Patriots, Shirayuki Mizore, Vissers

Pevvania wrote:Great news for liberty today - Theresa May announces that the UK will leave the entirety of the EU, including the corrupt single market, Trump pledges that the UK will swiftly get a trade deal, and Obama has pardoned Chelsea Manning. Good stuff!

TBF, anything other than leaving the single-market would lead to electoral slaughtering in 2020 (or earlier).

That said, I can't see any other party coming remotely close to the Tories if we're heading in the same direction as it seems.

Teuberland wrote:Hey does anyone have recommended books about Brazilian history? Right now I'm wondering if there is anything particular about their involvement in World War II.

You might find this immediately helpful:

http://ibiblio.org/hyperwar/UN/Brazil/Participation/index.html

I am dating myself, but:

Books:

Hilton, Stanley E. Brazil and the Great Powers, 1930-1939: The Politics of Trade Rivalry. Austin: University of Texas Press, 1975

Bello, José Maria. A History of Modern Brazil, 1889-1964. Stanford: Stanford University Press, 1966.

Journals:

Carvalho, José Murilo de. "Armed Forces and Politics in Brazil, 1930-1945," Hispanic American Historical Review, 62, No.2, May 1982, 193-223

Conniff, Michael L. "Populism in Brazil, 1925-1945." Pages 67-91 in Michael L. Conniff, ed., Latin American Populism in Comparative Perspective. Albuquerque: University of New Mexico Press, 1982

The films "Boys From Brazil" and "Brazil" are of no help. :)

As Foreign Minister of the Central Pacific Empire, I would like to cheerfully inform all of our friends in Libertatem that the CPE has a new Emperor! Per our Imperial Succession Laws, Latin And Central America is now our Head of State.

Rateria

The book of the month link is triggering.

Republic Of Minerva

Muh Roads wrote:The book of the month link is triggering.

Jus making sure we do not fall back into Mitt Romney style conservativism. E.g. No principles but the reflexive support of the statist quo.

Regardless I will change both shortly. Any suggestions for a song and book?

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Jus making sure we do not fall back into Mitt Romney style conservativism. E.g. No principles but the reflexive support of the statist quo.

Regardless I will change both shortly. Any suggestions for a song and book?

Song: Freedom 90 by George Michael

Book: End the Fed by Ron Paul

Pevvania wrote:

Book: End the Fed by Ron Paul

End the Fed was the Book of the Month for over a year last time.

The United States Of Patriots

Could always make it The Cat in the Hat again.

The United States Of Patriots

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Jus making sure we do not fall back into Mitt Romney style conservativism. E.g. No principles but the reflexive support of the statist quo.

Regardless I will change both shortly. Any suggestions for a song and book?

You do realize that the Book of the Month link still directs to Cat in the Hat, right?

Republic Of Minerva, Rateria, Condealism

The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels, by Alex Epstein, introductory video to the book: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu6637cjk8A

Miencraft wrote:You do realize that the Book of the Month link still directs to Cat in the Hat, right?

Muh Roads wrote:The book of the month link is triggering.

Rateria, Condealism

^ 2017: Dr. Seuss triggers people. What a time to be alive.

Miencraft, Pevvania, Muh Roads, Kumquat Cove, Rateria

Throwback to when we had 200+ people

Rateria, Condealism

If we don't get some George Michael up in here I'm pressing for impeachment

Condealism

Did anybody see George H. W. Bush's open letter to Trump about the inauguration? He's a bit of an average president, but damn, what a classy guy. He's just so kind-hearted and gracious in an almost apolitical sort of way.

Condealism, The United States Of Patriots, Vissers

Condealism wrote:^ 2017: Dr. Seuss triggers people. What a time to be alive.

Muh Roads wrote:When you finally realize the book of the month is the cat in the hat.

It could be argued that it is a book about anarchy, but more so, it's a book about two kids with schizophrenia.

Muh mental illness!

Rateria

Pevvania wrote:If we don't get some George Michael up in here I'm pressing for impeachment

Stay classy, Libertatem - you're listening to Fortside Rock Radio!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnVI0zwIXRw&index=112&list=PLv0N7xpaTOmRvJsHYf2WNpGUy25daqjKC

I'm not crazy about George Michael, but updated nonetheless. I also added Frederic Bastiat's The Law to the book of the month, I think he is a definitely underrated philosopher and economist amongst libertarain circles.

I think we need new citizens...

Today it's time to Make America Great Again!

Miencraft, Condealism

Hyderbourg wrote:I think we need new citizens...

Do not worry good Hyderbourg for I am coming up with a solution that will make us grow 200%

Pevvania wrote:Today it's time to Make America Great Again!

Meh. We'll see. If Trumps first actions are to rename Obamacare and enact Chinese tariffs then I will be sorely disappointed.

Rateria, Condealism

And with that Obama and Biden are out of a job. We can call this the end of an error.

Now that Trump and Republicans have the conn, let us hope they don't screw it up.

Condealism, The United States Of Patriots

The Ambassador To The Clfr wrote:And with that Obama and Biden are out of a job. We can call this the end of an error.

Now that Trump and Republicans have the conn, let us hope they don't screw it up.

Today is a great day.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Meh. We'll see. If Trumps first actions are to rename Obamacare and enact Chinese tariffs then I will be sorely disappointed.

Not rename. We are going to rip obamacare to shreds and replace it with a system that actually WORKS.

Pevvania wrote:Today it's time to Make America Great Again!

Yes. Today is the start of a new great future for America.

Pevvania

I like his references to individual rights, freedom and the constitition in his speech.

The Ambassador To The Clfr wrote:We can call this the end of an error.

A+

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Meh. We'll see. If Trumps first actions are to rename Obamacare and enact Chinese tariffs then I will be sorely disappointed.

The tariff threat is likely just a bargaining chip, as Taiwan is likely to be. As I've noted previously the ideas Trump himself has about healthcare are in line with the 2012 Libertarian Party platform. True, the GOP could mess it up, so we'll have to wait and see. Apparently he's just sent out an order to all federal departments to freeze the creation of all new regulations. I'm very excited for the future of the United States.

Pevvania wrote:Today it's time to Make America Great Again!

Why don't you just move to Somalia?

Pevvania, Rateria

I like Ivanka Trump ❤

Muh Roads wrote:I like Ivanka Trump ❤

She's a very intelligent woman. Also, can we all agree that Melania Trump is the hottest First Lady since Jackie Kennedy?

Lefties giving Trump flak for removing references to LGBT rights on the White House website. News flash: nobody cares. I'm all for gay rights, but please, the issue is settled. Gays can marry and are protected under hate crime laws. What more needs to be done? It seems to me that the constant emphasis on LGBT rights is just a convenient way for political candidates to say 'hey, I'm tolerant!'. The LGBT community comprises about 3.4% of the population. Dropping the emphasis on it is not homophobia.

Miencraft, Condealism, Vissers

More fantastic news everyone! http://thehill.com/policy/finance/314991-trump-team-prepares-dramatic-cuts

"Donald Trump is ready to take an ax to government spending.

Staffers for the Trump transition team have been meeting with career staff at the White House ahead of Friday’s presidential inauguration to outline their plans for shrinking the federal bureaucracy, The Hill has learned.

The changes they propose are dramatic.

The departments of Commerce and Energy would see major reductions in funding, with programs under their jurisdiction either being eliminated or transferred to other agencies. The departments of Transportation, Justice and State would see significant cuts and program eliminations.

The Corporation for Public Broadcasting would be privatized, while the National Endowment for the Arts and National Endowment for the Humanities would be eliminated entirely.

Overall, the blueprint being used by Trump’s team would reduce federal spending by $10.5 trillion over 10 years."

Condealism, Shirayuki Mizore

And according to Think Progress - "Trump’s team is crafting a budget that would double the spending cuts put forward by House Republicans."

Condealism, Shirayuki Mizore

Well, that sounds very good. What I like as well is Mad Dog Harris and the focus on a rational energy policy instead of the whining about some CO2 and all this subsidized unreliable energy from solar panels, windmills etc.

I do have grave concerns about what exactly his replacement for Obamacare will be (socialism or something like Singapore?) and what this whole infrastucture spending is about, and the inane tariffs of course.

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