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Region: Libertatem
"We want free speech (when it's convenient for us, and not when it isn't)"
GUYS, WORDS hurt muh feels and are triggering
Words are theft.
Miencraft, The Ambassador To The Clfr, Rateria, Condealism, The United States Of Patriots
I'm looking for a man who used to go by Lawless Idealism.
Ronacria
OoooOOOOOooooooOOOOO!!!
Arostan
I might know 'em. Who's askin'?
Not now, Ron.
I never thought you would all last this long.
Condealism
No one can kill an idea...lism.
Rateria
It's just like THE OLD DAYS.
The atmosphere certainly feels different, though.
Like being a remaining Jew in nazi Germany.
Tsar, Zeouria, whomever I was back then.. *lights cigar* *adjusts shady overcoat*
Kind of the opposite, really. An region I co-founded by accident has somehow managed to rid NationStates of its saltiest factions. We're closer to peace now than ever before, all because I wanted to, in my own words, "close the ideological gap."
In case you couldn't tell by now, it's me.
Hey look Commies...
Rev up those helicopters boys.
Oh wait. We don't do that anymore. We're spineless now I forgot.
I don't ever see you volunteering for military duty.
Miencraft, Rateria, Condealism
Is that something we still have? Because I've more than well served my time in the LAF.
Post self-deleted by Muh Roads.
Infact, I lead the campaign way back on TFI2. Otherwise, I've assisted in most of our major operations. Also assisted in some covert operations under Pev. Not naming them for obvious reasons.
For one bit of evidence.
Pevvania
#triggered
Muh Roads
hi
Hello.
I smell war glorious war prep the fleet we're getting some new territories .......who are we fighting
#TRIGGERED
Muh Roads, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots
Heck, if the military is actually active sign me up. Want my DNA?
Because I'll give it to you 👅💦😎
That's not a telegram, but whatever, I'll take it.
Full public disclosure is my thing... usually
why do we need an army if there's p e a c e ?
What's Nationstates been like for the past 2 years or however many I was gone? Any major victories over those evil red butts?
And Berkeley as well!
My ex-fiancee goes to Berkeley, and I can tell you she and everyone else there are as anti-free speech as you can get.
Sweet lord, where'd you come from?
Yeah, we had a string of grand victories, but due to real life kinda sucking up most of our time a lot of us have pulled back a bit. We're at peace right now.
New Jaslandia, Condealism
http://metro.co.uk/2016/12/17/felicity-jones-was-paid-way-more-than-her-male-co-stars-in-rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-6329703/
Male privilege at it again!
The United States Of Patriots
Why do we need water if we're not thirsty?
Hyderbourg
Why not just put the water in the freezer for safe keeping?
Trump is appointing a Tea Party fiscal hawk as his budget director, a House Rep who has voted against every debt-ridden omnibus spending bill since he got into Congress in 2011.
Miencraft, Narland
Look easy pickings it's conquering time
Ever hear of peace though strength
Easy pickings is all a commie knows 🤗
I'm Not a communist I'm a dictator the is a difference
Hah. "Peace." Right.
What's the difference? 🙎
Pevvania, Rateria
Drug tests for welfare recipients or nah?
Give drugs to welfare recipents
New Jaslandia, Rateria
Test them on how efficiently they can do drugs.
New Jaslandia, Rateria
mate that is CHUNG
I'm tired of the cesspit that is NSG.
old meme
Random opinion: libertarians should drop marijuana as a national political priority. The wave of legalisation and decriminalisation of marijuana is spreading across the US, and as of early 2017 cannabis will be legal to possess in 9 jurisdictions. Since 2012, the number of Americans living in jurisdictions with access to legal recreational marijuana has gone from 0 to 67 million, comprising a fifth of the population and now includes California, which on its own is one of the world's largest economies. Many more states have embraced decriminalisation and legal medical marijuana. As what was once a fringe issue on the left is now being accepted as a commonsense measure to end prohibition, even the President-Elect agrees with leaving the issue to the states and not interfering at the federal level. The battle is being won, and the momentum is already building for further legalisations in 2018 and beyond.
Since this is a cause that now seems to be being taken care of by millions of non-libertarians, it's time for the onus to shift. No, not to legalisation of hard drugs (which is definitely a worthy goal, I'll add), but to lowering the drinking age to 18. How can the freest nation on Earth continue to have such an archaic drinking age of 21? If the goal of this law was to curb underage drinking, that's clearly been a failure, as I'm sure all of you could personally confirm. And if it's been to cut drunk driving, that's also been a failure, since the US has over 30,000 car fatalities per year. In fact, if driving fatalities were taken out of the equation, the US would climb from the mid-teens to number one in terms of life expectancy! Maybe I'm being liberal with causation and correlation here, but even so, if an excessively high drinking age is the price to pay for less car fatalities, surely it's still too high a price considering how many more deaths occur in the US than in other countries?
The drinking age should be lowered to 18.
New Jaslandia
"Random opinion: libertarians should drop marijuana as a national political priority."
No fvck that, not when we are so close. The quicker it ends, the more we can build upon the momentum, the less people will be harmed and go to jail for smoking a plant.
"The drinking age should be lowered to 18."
I agree but this is very low priority compared to legalizing marijuana.
Miencraft, New Jaslandia, Condealism
I had to Google your Euro slang.
"A nation which makes greatness its polestar can never be free. Abraham Bishop, founding father and Jeffersonian
This is the salient issue here. The morality of using drugs is irrelevant; it's how the United States defines (and punishes) crime that needs to be dealt with.
New Jaslandia
I'd take that a step further and say the legal age for everything should be lowered to 18 if it's above.
And, technically, there's no federal statute preventing that from happening; it was threats by the federal government to cut off certain fundings to states that didn't raise the drinking age to 21 that stuck is with that.
Pevvania
Guys, what are your thoughts on Wendy's, Carl's Jr and Popeye's Chicken?
Age in general seems an awfully arbitrary factor for deciding a person's rights. Cattle are better-treated than America's minors.
Decent fast food all-around. Good ice cream products. Not a fan of the chili.
Those are called "Hardee's" in my area, I think. Great for breakfast items. Burgers are pretty good too, iirc.
Only had it once. Similar to KFC, although not quite as good - their saving grace is that they put spices on everything.
Pevvania
Lol! Only electoral college defections so far are in states Clinton won. How embarrassing.
Condealism, Teuberland, Shirayuki Mizore
I mean if I had my way, the minimum age for pretty much everything would be 16 if we really need to have one, but it really just doesn't make any sense to restrict someone's ability to do things based on how long they've existed.
Condealism
I'm frustrated yet amused that Ron Paul garnered more electoral votes than Gary Johnson lol.
Pevvania, Republic Of Minerva, Muh Roads, The Ambassador To The Clfr, Rateria, Condealism, The United States Of Patriots
I'm tempted to take off embassies such as Atheist Empire and Christian Republic due to their non-secular stances and lack of ties to those regions, particularly from a libertarian standpoint
Go for it. It doesn't look like we have anything to gain from maintaining ties.
Each county/munincipality or state should be free to decide. Before prohibition the drinking age in Idaho was 14. Afterwards it was reinstated at 14 only if one was in the military or assigned to a military school (dangerous since most children assigned to military schools were delinquents), and it bounced around for everyone else from 17 to 21 down to 19 and strictly enforced at 21 most recently under threat of Federal Government wrath. Whatever is decided the intoxication age, voting age, and draft age should be the same number. Drinking and disruptive behaviour due to public drunkenness should be distinct.
Every state should do like Colorado tried to do in the 80s and demand receipt of every dollar taken and only pay only that which was constitutionally mandated. Since their legislature turned blue, I doubt they will try again.
Wendy's ----> Needs more bourbon in its chili.
Carl's Jr. ---> Needs more bourbon in its $6 Burger.
Popeye's ---> Needs more bourbon in its Spicy Chicken Coating Mix
Last time I ate at a Wendy's (2012) the food was cafeteria quality at best, and I haven't been back.
Carl's Jr has good enough quality burgers that I do not mind eating there (with 50% off coupons).
Popeye's Chicken has been so expensive in Idaho that I last ate there in the 1980s. I prefer to dress and cook my own. Free range bourbon chicken.
Pevvania, The Ambassador To The Clfr, Condealism
Pretty good, never been, damn good.
There you have it. No more needs to be said.
The United States Of Patriots
The entire world ---> Needs more booze
Kumquat Cove, Rateria
In this world, it's drink or be drunk.
Miencraft, Rateria, Hyderbourg
Wendys: I liek their fries and frosty. That's it.
Carl's Jr/Hardees: Decent mushroom and Swiss burger; meh on the rest of the lunch stuff but I love their brekkie (you like that euro slang Pevvie?)
Popeyes: 1.5x better than KFC. I make better fried chicken than both.
Chick-fil-A is where it's at for a chicken sammich and a banana pudding milkshake <3
Pevvania, The Ambassador To The Clfr, Condealism
So in other words when you come to the States Pev, come eat chicken at my house. It's deregulated. Lol
Pevvania, The Ambassador To The Clfr
Popeye's Chicken. They have red beans and rice that is really good. Got to know them in New Orleans after Katrina. A Wendy's and a Popeye's next door to each other teamed up and brought in a huge generator, and trucked in drinking water. They were the first restaurants to open up after the storm. All of us, news media, national guard, first responders, FEMA, and everyone else started eating there two or three times a day. The places were packed.
Yeah, herding those minors into the slaughterhouses is really ugly.
Two vastly different chains. Most Carl's ar drive up/walk up operations with no dining rooms.
Mmmmmm... Frosty...
Roger that on Chic-fil-a and the Hardees Mushroom Swiss Burger.
Cattle just get crammed together into rooms and fed whatever-it-is-they're-fed and then they die.
Children in this country are forced to participate in twelve years of involuntary servitude, during which they are fed what just barely qualifies as a meal and forced to renounce their individuality else they be punished for it, and they receive no compensation for their twelve years of labor.
Pevvania, Narland, Condealism
Finally, someone gets it. If someone had told me beforehand what I'd endure, I'd have begged for death.
Miencraft, Narland
You haven't lived until you've had KFC's Popcorn chicken poutine
The United States Of Patriots
Ok, for the moment we will grant your somewhat dismal view of public education. To tell the truth, I agree with a lot of that. Roughly three decades ago the US public schools stopped teaching how to think and started teaching what to think.
However, the wages you received for that time spent in mandatory education is the ability to read these words and respond in writing, mostly spelled right and with a modicum of socially acceptable grammar. In fact I have yet to see you post anything along the lines of "Yo my cru! watup 2day?" Considering your posts it is reasonable to assume you have a basic working knowledge of government and math.
That is your compensation for 12 years of incarceration.
Rateria
I take it you like bourbon.
Brekkie? 'Euro slang'? Noooooooo that's Aussie talk my friend.
I've only had Chick-fil-A once but I liked it. Good chicken and decent, original fries.
Regarding the talk of lowering the age of legally doing things, I generally agree, except here in the UK I think that the voting age should be raised to 21. Most British people my age (I'm 20 by the way) are f--king morons in almost all aspects of life, including and especially politics. 75% of young people voted to stay in the EU, many of whom I spoke to gave the enlightened reasoning of either "the EU's never done anything wrong by me" or "I don't know enough about it so I'll vote to stay". Also Millenials are garbage generally, so I think it's fair to say they should get some real world experience voting with their wallets in the marketplace before deciding the fate of millions of others.
Condealism
but I am a millennial :s
But yes my fellow millennials are quite stupid
Pevvania, Rateria, Condealism, The United States Of Patriots
And a nice, delicious side of HOMOPHOBIA.
It's amazing how caramelizing a liquor in substandard food can improve it--the alcohol usually evaporates. At Carl's Junior one can order a real 100% beef hamburger made from the meat and marbled fat only of a steer, but some of their patties on some burgers are not. I do not eat store bought chicken, let alone fast food chicken. We had less than 100 years of enforced truth in advertising in the US. I wouldn't feed the low quality of meat found in most fast food franchises to my worst enemy, let alone my dog.
When I was a teenager Congress decided that there didn't need to be hamburger in the hamburger to sell it as a hamburger. Don't even get me started on how the FDA and Dept of Ag lowered the grading standards of what beef is. Redefining terms on the fly seems innocuous at first but indeed most insidiously defrauds the unassuming by those who have vested interest in keeping the rest ignorant. Objective truth and absolute standards are necessary to prosecute those who are ever so ready to defraud others and that is best done with an informed and educated citizenry without the monopolizing of power by the state allowing double-standards.
I cannot drink alcohol, but if I did it would be spiced rum, ginger beer, and cinnamon mead.
Pevvania, Rateria
If the only thing the government can show for 12 years of what I would say is slavery is the ability to do what anyone's parents should be able to do in, at most, a quarter of that time, there's a serious problem.
Narland, Rateria, Condealism
I would also point out that I was perfectly capable of reading as early as three years old. Public education wasn't responsible for that. The government didn't have anything to do with that. If all you can expect out of public school is literacy (and honestly you can't even expect that, apparently) then I am incredibly disappointed. Mandatory public schooling is involuntary servitude, and as such is prohibited as per the thirteenth amendment, unless somehow we're going to convict every single minor in this country of some random crime and tell them the punishment is a so-called education.
Narland, Condealism
Post self-deleted by Narland.
I was fortunate to have Old School schoolteachers in Primary (1-3). Unfortunately, they switched to Elementary Schools in my 4th grade yr and we got the Dewey dumbed-down Progressive Modern Education crap whole-cloth. It has made me acutely aware that my gen and those who follow have been grotesquely defrauded and as Podesta emailed have attempted to be made "unaware and compliant."
The American Classcial Ecclectic approach pioneered by Webster and our Founders is still superior to the Dewey "Progressive Modern Education" gruel or the pablum of Common Core that currently malnourishes our souls. At the time I didn't understand that this dumbing-down was intentional. No more educating each individual to discover and joyfully endeavor to attain to their own capacity for excellence. Just compliant and unaware groups of monkeys smart enough to push buttons but not smart to see past their next indulgence in order to escape their free range slavery.
I digress, back in the 4th grade, I went home from school to my natural parents (whom I was with at the time) crying and begged them to home school me like my cousins back in SE Asia. Back then (pre-cultural revolution 1960s) only military/peacecorp families in foreign countries, missionaries, militant atheists, communists, subversives, and off-the-grid hippies home-schooled. That dad was a former beatnik turned madman so he sympathized at my plight but only as an ironic juxtaposition of fate.
4th to 10th grades were the worst time of my life. All education was attained despite public schooling. When legally allowed (at 16), I got a job and apartment and paid my way to graduate from a private school. It deprived me of the extra-curricular activities that I loved like debate team, football, and drama but it was worth it, and I learned some relevant things to surviving life in this age.
The Ambassador To The Clfr, Rateria, Condealism
Compensation I didn't even receive from those who incarcerated me.
My parents taught me to read and perform basic math. My ability to use computers and type really fast comes from personal experience (and RuneScape). My interest in and knowledge of politics is sustained by the fact that I play this game and interact with other people who are invested in the same.
What school taught me was to keep my head down, recoil in fear of learning opportunities, and apologize profusely the moment something goes wrong.
Miencraft, The Ambassador To The Clfr
*insert "I WUZ BORRN N DUH RONG GENERASHUN" comment here*
As it happens, age doesn't really correlate as well with experience as one might imagine. It's just that you're likely to have more of the latter as the former increases.
Miencraft, Pevvania
Post self-deleted by Narland.
I would not have been prepared to enter the workforce without it.
Narland
The Internet can a godsend to those who wish to not let public schooling interfere with their education. With just a little self-discipline and some motivation one can excel far beyond the best of educations of just a generation ago. Book/internet learning doesn't necessarily translate to real life experience, but can greatly improve finding birds of like feather. Learn to love life and live to love learning and life will be that much more tolerable.
Condealism
Reshuffling embassies, stand by
Condealism
Forgot to say: I'd keep embassies with Christian Republic if I were you. They're run by the same guys as Right to Life and are a historic military ally. They helped us out in several raids including CAPS, if I recall correctly.
I'd like to ask, Mr. President, about you plan for your military policy?
I somewhat understand how you feel. I'm not a Millennial (I'm 16 as of now), but I have heard some horrific things about Millenial stupidity. I have also met Millennials who can actually have an intellectual conversation without going all PC SJW on me.
Pevvania, Narland, Republic Of Minerva, Condealism
Runescape is seriously the best thing for learning how to type fast. That chat input doesn't let you say a whole lot in one line, so if you want to carry on a conversation you'd damn well better be fast.
Condealism
Also, today marks 71 years since the death of the great General George Patton. I still think it was some kind of assassination.
The United States Of Patriots
Speaking of other deaths, Zsa Zsa Gabor and Dr. Henry Heimlich died recently.
Ohio flipped from +3% Democratic in the 2012 to +8% Republican in 2016. Minnesota very narrowly went for Clinton, despite voting Democratic every election since 1976, and of course Trump picked up Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. Simply by holding onto all the states he won and winning the 46 electoral votes from states lost by <5%, Trump could rack up at least a score of 352 in 2020. All he'd have to do is flip a few more light blue states like New Mexico and he could hit 370, potentially giving him the biggest electoral college win since Clinton in 1996. Rust Belt aside, there are already signs the Northeast may be shifting red in states like Delaware.
This, of course, is assuming that Trump does a good job.
Narland, Republic Of Minerva, Condealism
I think we can have relations with RtL without having to have relations with all of their allies, even though I have reservations about it. And if I do, id probably become embassies with "Atheist Empire" lest we are seen as biased.
As for the other embassies, ive sent one to Portugal as I've noted a fair amount of liberal/libertarian nations residing there and simply because I like Portugal. Zentari similarly has many allies, and it is the region I keep my puppet in. Mr. Money I have encountered in the forums and he seems like a decent bloke so yeah.
So far I am working with Condealism behind the scenes to create or join a large multiregional defense organization. We will put it to vote as soon as possible.
Pevvania, Rateria, Condealism
I haven't played that game in 10 years. Crazy stuff.
You should be even worse, if you are the spawn of millenial parents. Lulz
Rateria
In the meantime,
JOIN THE MILITARY.
The Ambassador To The Clfr
I would agree the public schools are worse then useless. While they may be a profound waste of time, I really cannot call it slavery. There are other options and the work you do benefits no one but yourself. Centers of indoctrination? That works.
Rateria, Condealism
"Condy, your anti-school rhetoric is making people uncomfortable"
*things I learned in school kick in*
I'M SORRY I'M SORRY OH MY GOD I'M SO SORRY MY SINCEREST APOLOGIES SORRY GIVE ME A CHANCE TO MAKE IT UP TO YOU SORRY mitochondria are known as the powerhouse of the cell SORRY
Miencraft, Narland, The Ambassador To The Clfr, Rateria
Things I didn't learn in school
-How to do taxes
-How to write a resumé
-How to apply for a job
-How to think for myself
-How to stand up for myself
-How to be me
-How to learn
Things I learnt in school
-How to prepare to get a good mark in a standardised test designed to boost the school's image
-How to pump enormous sums of information into my mind before forgetting everything after the test
-How to walk in goose-step and salute my dear leader
-How to follow orders
-How to report someone who wrongs me rather than dealing with it myself
-How to follow the crowd and become a part of group-think
Miencraft, Narland, The Ambassador To The Clfr, Condealism
You'd think this would be the number 1 thing for them to teach in personal finance classes and such, but, no, it's just a whole bunch of "Here's how to apply for X loan".
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