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Region: Libertatem

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Individual anarchist Lysander Spooner's letter to Bourbon Democrat Grover Cleveland: http://lysanderspooner.org/LetterToGroverCleveland.htm

Liberosia

Godless Monkey Ii wrote:ps. Good job Condealism on getting the flag changed (however long that lasts :P).

Good news, everybody! This guy - a vocal member of The Internationale and North Korea - approves of our flag change! We did it!

Pevvania wrote:Good news, everybody! This guy - a vocal member of The Internationale and North Korea - approves of our flag change! We did it!

Victory!!!

Can we change the flag again, please? Hammer and sickle or no, the current flag is pretty bland.

Pevvania wrote:Can we change the flag again, please? Hammer and sickle or no, the current flag is pretty bland.

A majority vote decided it wasn't. Plus, the old one was the blandest of the bland, and I always thought it was pretty obnoxious.

The old flag greatly limits our diplomacy, not just with strictly leftist regions, but with any region with a leftist community.

Hallo Island wrote:The old flag greatly limits our diplomacy, not just with strictly leftist regions, but with any region with a leftist community.

I wasn't aware of such limitations.

Miencraft wrote:I wasn't aware of such limitations.

Would you want your region to construct embassies with an anti capitalist symbol as a flag?

Hallo Island wrote:Would you want your region to construct embassies with an anti capitalist symbol as a flag?

Who cares about a flag?

What even is an anti-capitalist symbol anyways?

Why can't you give an example of a region that refused to ally with us solely because of the flag?

Miencraft wrote:Who cares about a flag?

What even is an anti-capitalist symbol anyways?

Why can't you give an example of a region that refused to ally with us solely because of the flag?

The Communist Bloc. Just ask Zenny

Republic Of Minerva wrote:The Communist Bloc. Just ask Zenny

Wasn't their problem the fact that they wanted to ally with the insane people from the really violent regions, and those same insane people wouldn't let them do that because they were allied with us?

Republic Of Minerva wrote:The Communist Bloc. Just ask Zenny

Why would they have partnered with us in the first place?

Pevvania wrote:Good news, everybody! This guy - a vocal member of The Internationale and North Korea - approves of our flag change! We did it!

Ugh. I foresaw this..

No matter, they'll be whining about something else we do soon enough.

Pevvania, The New United States, Republic Of Minerva, Humpheria In Libertatem

Holy shi-

http://www.nationstates.net/region=the_black_riders

I am officially announcing that I will be running for the RLP's Seat 2 nomination, against Hallo Island.

The United Libertarian American Republic

I will be running for seat 5 under the PRR.

I would like to run but since I'm still a manager I guess that is impossible. Meaning that I'll be unemployed for the next two months :(

Who will drive me wherever I want in my Rolls ?

Could I at least take with me some bottles from the Ministry's official wine cellar ?

You can always resign from manager now and then run.

What will the cabinet look like under President Roads, again?

Alright guys, FRAUD II is wrapped up and ready to go! http://www.nationstates.net/nation=pevvania/detail=factbook/id=405266

I amended it to include greater flexibility on the revocation of citizenship process while also giving the Board greater accountability to check the Department's power.

I will be presenting this to the Board today. Speak now if you are dissatisfied with it or forever hold your peace.

Muh Roads wrote:VP: Humpheria

IA: Miencraft

MA: Pevvania

FA: Northern Prussia

AG: Right-Winged Nation

The United Libertarian American Republic wrote:

Thank you.

Amarican, what is your position on the immigration reform bill currently in its first reading in the Board?

I support it. It makes the Real life Libertarian a citizen of the region instead of the current model where the individual nation account is the citizen. This is a great bill that expands the mobility of the individual. I encourage every Board member to vote Yea.

Pevvania, United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

The New United States wrote:I am officially announcing that I will be running for the RLP's Seat 2 nomination, against Hallo Island.

Oh, you must think I am weak. Hahaha. Taking a stand against me because I'm a "commie lover"? Hahahahaha.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Hallo Island wrote:Oh, you must think I am weak. Hahaha. Taking a stand against me because I'm a "commie lover"? Hahahahaha.

No, I do not think that you are "weak," nor do I think of anyone in such terms as "commie lover." It's simply that your views, in all probability, diverge the most from my own.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Hallo Island wrote:Oh, you must think I am weak. Hahaha. Taking a stand against me because I'm a "commie lover"? Hahahahaha.

IT SPRECHEN

Hallo Island, United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Topic of Discussion

Which Person in this region would you trust with Absolute power over the earth?(can't be yourself) Who would you trust the least and why?

I would trust Ci with the world because he is a true anti war libertarian. I would trust Hallo the least because he is the most hot headed and he would probably send me to the Gallows.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

I thought Northern Prussia decided against bring FA...

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

I wouldn't know what to do with the world if I had it. I'd trust myself least.

At least people like Pev or Humph would have some sort of vague, but constructive vision for the Earth.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen wrote:Hi guys

Who the hell are you?

Also, vote for Jill Stein and do us a favor. Break the duopoly

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:I wouldn't know what to do with the world if I had it. I'd trust myself least.

At least people like Pev or Humph would have some sort of vague, but constructive vision for the Earth.

That is right .

My thoughts exactly

Definitely Pev. He is one of the most intelligent and honorable libertarians I've ever had the pleasure of taking to.

Miencraft, Pevvania, United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Pevvania wrote:Alright guys, FRAUD II is wrapped up and ready to go! http://www.nationstates.net/nation=pevvania/detail=factbook/id=405266

I amended it to include greater flexibility on the revocation of citizenship process while also giving the Board greater accountability to check the Department's power.

I will be presenting this to the Board today. Speak now if you are dissatisfied with it or forever hold your peace.

I don't see any changes, but that's probably just because my computer is being dumb and caching something it shouldn't be, but I'll trust you and say I've finally got nothing to say about it :P.

Miencraft wrote:I don't see any changes, but that's probably just because my computer is being dumb and caching something it shouldn't be, but I'll trust you and say I've finally got nothing to say about it :P.

That said, immediately after posting that I found something different. I'm just blind.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

The New United States wrote:No, I do not think that you are "weak," nor do I think of anyone in such terms as "commie lover." It's simply that your views, in all probability, diverge the most from my own.

Yeah, I know, that was a joke.

The United Libertarian American Republic wrote:Topic of Discussion

Which Person in this region would you trust with Absolute power over the earth?(can't be yourself) Who would you trust the least and why?

I would trust Ci with the world because he is a true anti war libertarian. I would trust Hallo the least because he is the most hot headed and he would probably send me to the Gallows.

Okay I'm not hotheaded.

I'm just

passionate

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

The United Libertarian American Republic wrote:Topic of Discussion

Which Person in this region would you trust with Absolute power over the earth?(can't be yourself) Who would you trust the least and why?

I would trust Ci with the world because he is a true anti war libertarian. I would trust Hallo the least because he is the most hot headed and he would probably send me to the Gallows.

But yeah Pev. He's a babe. I would trust Neo Confed the least. Wait, is he still here? I'M SO OLD.

I would use the guillotine, duh. You don't know me at all, girl.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Hallo Island wrote:Wait, is he still here? I'M SO OLD.

You know who else is still here?

I am.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Miencraft wrote:You know who else is still here?

I am.

Yeah but you're boring.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

The United Libertarian American Republic wrote:Topic of Discussion

Which Person in this region would you trust with Absolute power over the earth?(can't be yourself) Who would you trust the least and why?

I would trust Ci with the world because he is a true anti war libertarian. I would trust Hallo the least because he is the most hot headed and he would probably send me to the Gallows.

I would trust myself, because I know myself better than everybody else * rub his nipples *

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Mein is far from boring.😇

Yrellian Confederacy, United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:I would trust myself, because I know myself better than everybody else * rub his nipples *

Ew

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

Hallo Island wrote:Ew

Your too sensitive hallo.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

The United Libertarian American Republic wrote:Your too sensitive hallo.

What about his too sensitive hallo?

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

The United Libertarian American Republic wrote:Your too sensitive hallo.

No, I just don't want to hear about you or your nipples.

United Environmentalist States Of Mhomen

* rubbing nipples intensifies *

Hallo Island wrote:No, I just don't want to hear about you or your nipples.

You would not mind if it was a RLP member talking about those instead of Yrellian.

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:* rubbing nipples intensifies *

JESUS GOD

The United Libertarian American Republic wrote:You would not mind if it was a RLP member talking about those instead of Yrellian.

Shots fired.

Wait, that doesn't make any sense. Shots ingested.

The United Libertarian American Republic wrote:You would not mind if it was a RLP member talking about those instead of Yrellian.

[sarcasm]Yeah obviously[/sarcasm]

Didn't you have a crush on me?

Jesus who didn't?

Hallo Island wrote:[sarcasm]Yeah obviously[/sarcasm]

Didn't you have a crush on me?

Jesus who didn't?

That was like a long time ago.

Appreciate the love guys, but I'd still go with the classic option. Liberosia knows the region best, despite being in the 'retirement' stage of his nation.

Liberosia, Humpheria In Libertatem

Pevvania wrote:Appreciate the love guys, but I'd still go with the classic option. Liberosia knows the region best, despite being in the 'retirement' stage of his nation.

Plus he basically already has absolute power.

But yeah your presidency was so stable.

Pevvania wrote:Appreciate the love guys, but I'd still go with the classic option. Liberosia knows the region best, despite being in the 'retirement' stage of his nation.

Nah

[Puts on Hallo hat]Don't you know he's a fascist?[/Hallo]

Pevvania

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:Nah

[Puts on Hallo hat]Don't you know he's a fascist?[/Hallo]

I don't need this.

Pevvania

Hallo Island wrote:Plus he basically already has absolute power.

But yeah your presidency was so stable.

It had its ups and downs, but I think a lot of the reason why it was great was because of the people of the region. I could have gotten nowhere without the tireless work of you guys.

Pevvania wrote:It had its ups and downs, but I think a lot of the reason why it was great was because of the people of the region. I could have gotten nowhere without the tireless work of you guys.

*applause*

I thought that the RLP was Fascist or did Hallo say Neo con? Sorry hallo. I better shut up before you put a shock collar on me.

The United Libertarian American Republic wrote:I thought that the RLP was Fascist or did Hallo say Neo con? Sorry hallo. I better shut up before you put a shock collar on me.

Ew

O come on hallo. I did not even mean anything. Man I might have been right when I said that you were sensitive.

Hallo Island

Speak when spoken to. *places shock collar on Amar, zaps him on "low" setting*

Fun fact: defensive war is compliant with the NAP.

Guys, you have a shot at convincing me about something: should I vote for Conservatives or UKIP in the coming election? I want to advance liberty in the UK and shrink government. Who do you think will do this best?

aren't we fighting a war against communism?

Pevvania wrote:Guys, you have a shot at convincing me about something: should I vote for Conservatives or UKIP in the coming election? I want to advance liberty in the UK and shrink government. Who do you think will do this best?

I am about as knowledgeable in UK politics as Obama it's in American politics.

Pevvania

Take a third option: Don't vote. Voting legitimizes the system.

You can't trust the system. Man.

Pevvania, Republic Of Minerva

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Take a third option: Don't vote. Voting legitimizes the system.

You can't trust the system. Man.

Murray Rothbard has a good quote on non-voting:

"Let's put it this way: Suppose we were slaves in the Old South, and that for some reason, each plantation had a system where the slaves were allowed to choose every four years between two alternative masters. Would it be evil, and sanctioning slavery, to participate in such a choice? Suppose one master was a monster who systematically tortured all the slaves, while the other one was kindly, enforced almost no work rules, freed one slave a year, or whatever. It would seem to me not only not aggression to vote for the kinder master but idiotic if we failed to do so. Of course, there might well be circumstances—say when both masters are similar—where the slaves would be better off not voting in order to make a visible protest—but this is a tactical not a moral consideration. Voting would not be evil but, in such a case, less effective than the protest.

But if it is morally licit and nonaggressive for slaves to vote for a choice of masters, in the same way it is licit for us to vote for what we believe the lesser of two or more evils, and still more beneficial to vote for an avowedly libertarian candidates."

Even if I have to vote for a bastardo, I want to shrink the state, even if it means in baby steps. I won't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. My constituency is a swing seat where voters have 1.6 times the average power of voters in other seats.

Agorism, though, is a fascinating ideology that I'd like to learn more about.

Pevvania wrote:Murray Rothbard has a good quote on non-voting:

"Let's put it this way: Suppose we were slaves in the Old South, and that for some reason, each plantation had a system where the slaves were allowed to choose every four years between two alternative masters. Would it be evil, and sanctioning slavery, to participate in such a choice? Suppose one master was a monster who systematically tortured all the slaves, while the other one was kindly, enforced almost no work rules, freed one slave a year, or whatever. It would seem to me not only not aggression to vote for the kinder master but idiotic if we failed to do so. Of course, there might well be circumstances—say when both masters are similar—where the slaves would be better off not voting in order to make a visible protest—but this is a tactical not a moral consideration. Voting would not be evil but, in such a case, less effective than the protest.

But if it is morally licit and nonaggressive for slaves to vote for a choice of masters, in the same way it is licit for us to vote for what we believe the lesser of two or more evils, and still more beneficial to vote for an avowedly libertarian candidates."

Even if I have to vote for a bastardo, I want to shrink the state, even if it means in baby steps. I won't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. My constituency is a swing seat where voters have 1.6 times the average power of voters in other seats.

So which candidate do you believe to be the lesser evil?

Humpheria In Libertatem wrote:I am about as knowledgeable in UK politics as Obama it's in American politics.

Hey, I like him.

Pevvania wrote:Guys, you have a shot at convincing me about something: should I vote for Conservatives or UKIP in the coming election? I want to advance liberty in the UK and shrink government. Who do you think will do this best?

Tories. Otherwise you'll have Miliband.

Pevvania wrote:Murray Rothbard has a good quote on non-voting:

"Let's put it this way: Suppose we were slaves in the Old South, and that for some reason, each plantation had a system where the slaves were allowed to choose every four years between two alternative masters. Would it be evil, and sanctioning slavery, to participate in such a choice? Suppose one master was a monster who systematically tortured all the slaves, while the other one was kindly, enforced almost no work rules, freed one slave a year, or whatever. It would seem to me not only not aggression to vote for the kinder master but idiotic if we failed to do so. Of course, there might well be circumstances—say when both masters are similar—where the slaves would be better off not voting in order to make a visible protest—but this is a tactical not a moral consideration. Voting would not be evil but, in such a case, less effective than the protest.

But if it is morally licit and nonaggressive for slaves to vote for a choice of masters, in the same way it is licit for us to vote for what we believe the lesser of two or more evils, and still more beneficial to vote for an avowedly libertarian candidates."

Even if I have to vote for a bastardo, I want to shrink the state, even if it means in baby steps. I won't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. My constituency is a swing seat where voters have 1.6 times the average power of voters in other seats.

So does Konkin.

"Can you imagine slaves on a plantation sitting around voting for masters and spending their energy on campaigning and candidates when they could be heading for the “underground railway?” Surely they would choose the counter-economic alternative; surely Dr. Rothbard would urge them to do so and not be seduced into remaining on the plantation until the Abolitionist Slavemasters’ Party is elected."

Pevvania

Of course, I advocate for both options, depending on the use of my time.

TNUS has stepped up as my new manager of state in lieu of NP.

Muh Roads wrote:TNUS has stepped up as my new manager of state in lieu of NP.

So he can't run against me?

*attempt of Mein style sarcasm*

If only we had a document that answered every base question like that.

The United Libertarian American Republic wrote:*attempt of Mein style sarcasm*

If only we had a document that answered every base question like that.

Okay

BREAK YOURSELF FOOL

Good one hallo. But to answer your question, No as a Manager TNUS can't run against you.

Hallo Island wrote:So he can't run against me?

Nah bruh, you good

I think we should construct embassies with Gay.

Here, I'll say it so nobody else has to. I want this embassy because I am profoundly self-centered.

I'm interested in running for board. The board currently consists of:

2 people I couldn't even come near

1 person who is like never on and enjoys Pink Floyd a little too much for me too think he hasn't touched the drugses

1 person who has never really in my mind been the shiniest spoon in the... spoonholder

1 walking garbage can who everyone else who is running has already pounced on

and a partridge in a pear treeeeeee

Muh Roads

Midland County wrote:I'm interested in running for board. The board currently consists of:

2 people I couldn't even come near

1 person who is like never on and enjoys Pink Floyd a little too much for me too think he hasn't touched the drugses

1 person who has never really in my mind been the shiniest spoon in the... spoonholder

1 walking garbage can who everyone else who is running has already pounced on

and a partridge in a pear treeeeeee

I could literally be any of those. ;)

Ew, I just used a winky face talking to my brother, this is unacceptable.

Post self-deleted by Hallo Island.

Hallo Island wrote:Ew, I just used a winky face talking to my brother, this is unacceptable.

Quick question. Are you using nationstates in the shower rn?

Pevvania

Hallo Island wrote:I think we should construct embassies with Gay.

Here, I'll say it so nobody else has to. I want this embassy because I am profoundly self-centered.

Seriously

Midland County wrote:Quick question. Are you using nationstates in the shower rn?

Are you not?

Midland County wrote:Uh. no.

I plead the fifth.

Midland County wrote:Quick question. Are you using nationstates in the shower rn?

Fun fact: when this was posted, I was in the shower.

Hallo Island, Midland County

Mien After Dark: Now replacing Humpy After Dark. Sometimes.

Hallo Island wrote:I plead the fifth.

"Nolo Contendre"

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