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Related: I don't think Right-Winged Nation is a citizen, either.

Miencraft wrote:Wat.

*82%

Also on the Immigration thing. I am not the best at economics however. You made the argument Illegals you don't have to pay minimum wage thus allowing for there to be more jobs available for Americans because they wouldn't have to pay the illegals as much.

Doesn't this go two ways. They'd give the Illegals more jobs since they paid them below Minimum wage and while the wages of the people working their might be raised who would these illegals end up taking the jobs from? People that want them. Raising the wages and Hiring Illegals cancels out to the Bussinesses getting more illegals and paying their current employees more thus negating the pros. Correct?

Miencraft wrote:Related: I don't think Right-Winged Nation is a citizen, either.

He's eligible for it, but I don't think he is.

Looks at Poll.

Sees Liberosi supporting Hallo.....

Wha?

[B]Hello Comrades :)[/B]

I am [nation=short]Zenya[/nation], Minister of Foreign Affairs for The Communist Bloc. And I'd like to be the first member of our government to introduce us and reach a hand of friendship out to Libertatem. The reason I am here is because our President, [nation=short]Skydiveria[/nation], has come to the conclusion that Libertatem would make for a really great region to establish relations with to build a diplomatic relationship. Like Libertatem, The Communist Bloc is a democracy with a President, Cabinet, and a legislative branch open to all. I think the more open dialogue there is, the more we would see similarities between our regions and peoples.

I certainly hope this message is well-received and garners a positive response from government officials and citizens alike. Thank you.

[B]Signed,

Zenny Ariel Anumia ~ Minister of Foreign Affairs for The Communist Bloc.[/B]

Manager CI? That's your department.

I would support an embassy with the Communist Bloc.

I'd support an embassy, as well.

Welcome!

Zenny Ambassador wrote:[B]Hello Comrades :)[/B]

I am [nation=short]Zenya[/nation], Minister of Foreign Affairs for The Communist Bloc. And I'd like to be the first member of our government to introduce us and reach a hand of friendship out to Libertatem. The reason I am here is because our President, [nation=short]Skydiveria[/nation], has come to the conclusion that Libertatem would make for a really great region to establish relations with to build a diplomatic relationship. Like Libertatem, The Communist Bloc is a democracy with a President, Cabinet, and a legislative branch open to all. I think the more open dialogue there is, the more we would see similarities between our regions and peoples.

I certainly hope this message is well-received and garners a positive response from government officials and citizens alike. Thank you.

[B]Signed,

Zenny Ariel Anumia ~ Minister of Foreign Affairs for The Communist Bloc.[/B]

Thank you for the message, Minister Anumia. To say the least I'm surprised by your offer, seeing that we are a region that frequently engages other Communist regions militarily. I will discuss this matter privately with my cabinet and let you know of our decision. In the meantime, you're welcome to stay in this region for as long as you wish.

Zenny Ambassador wrote:[B]Hello Comrades :)[/B]

I am [nation=short]Zenya[/nation], Minister of Foreign Affairs for The Communist Bloc. And I'd like to be the first member of our government to introduce us and reach a hand of friendship out to Libertatem. The reason I am here is because our President, [nation=short]Skydiveria[/nation], has come to the conclusion that Libertatem would make for a really great region to establish relations with to build a diplomatic relationship. Like Libertatem, The Communist Bloc is a democracy with a President, Cabinet, and a legislative branch open to all. I think the more open dialogue there is, the more we would see similarities between our regions and peoples.

I certainly hope this message is well-received and garners a positive response from government officials and citizens alike. Thank you.

[B]Signed,

Zenny Ariel Anumia ~ Minister of Foreign Affairs for The Communist Bloc.[/B]

Well thats...Interesting.

We maintain positive relations with some Communist regions, believe it or not.

Zenny Ambassador wrote:[B]Hello Comrades :)[/B]

I am [nation=short]Zenya[/nation], Minister of Foreign Affairs for The Communist Bloc. And I'd like to be the first member of our government to introduce us and reach a hand of friendship out to Libertatem. The reason I am here is because our President, [nation=short]Skydiveria[/nation], has come to the conclusion that Libertatem would make for a really great region to establish relations with to build a diplomatic relationship. Like Libertatem, The Communist Bloc is a democracy with a President, Cabinet, and a legislative branch open to all. I think the more open dialogue there is, the more we would see similarities between our regions and peoples.

I certainly hope this message is well-received and garners a positive response from government officials and citizens alike. Thank you.

[B]Signed,

Zenny Ariel Anumia ~ Minister of Foreign Affairs for The Communist Bloc.[/B]

YAY!!!!

Seriously though. Let's open an Embassy with them. This will make it sound less like a war on Communism and More like a war on Tyranny which it currently is.

It is a War on Communism. Just authoritarian communists. They're a democracy.

Pevvania wrote:Thank you for the message, Minister Anumia. To say the least I'm surprised by your offer, seeing that we are a region that frequently engages other Communist regions militarily. I will discuss this matter privately with my cabinet and let you know of our decision. In the meantime, you're welcome to stay in this region for as long as you wish.

Thank you very much. And yes, I'm aware of the old "War on Communism". Frankly many communist and socialist regions give a bad name to the entire realm of NS Communism/Socialism.

Freedom of belief and speech are all basic rights to all resident nations and citizens of The Communist Bloc and I strongly believe in tolerance of all political and economic ideologies. Even our commanding officer of the Peoples Revolutionary Armed Forces (our regions military) is a Capitalist and Conservative ^_^

I thank you very much for the warm greeting, and look forward to your message.

Humpheria wrote:It is a War on Communism. Just authoritarian communists. They're a democracy.

We fight all Tyranny. Making this no longer a War on Communism but a War on Tyranny in general. We can call it what we want but that fact stands.

Especially if we decide to Embassy these communists.

Zenny Ambassador wrote:Thank you very much. And yes, I'm aware of the old "War on Communism". Frankly many communist and socialist regions give a bad name to the entire realm of NS Communism/Socialism.

My point.

also can someone please answer this:

Albenia wrote:*82%

Also on the Immigration thing. I am not the best at economics however. You made the argument Illegals you don't have to pay minimum wage thus allowing for there to be more jobs available for Americans because they wouldn't have to pay the illegals as much.

Doesn't this go two ways. They'd give the Illegals more jobs since they paid them below Minimum wage and while the wages of the people working their might be raised who would these illegals end up taking the jobs from? People that want them. Raising the wages and Hiring Illegals cancels out to the Bussinesses getting more illegals and paying their current employees more thus negating the pros. Correct?

I'd really like to understand this situation a bit better.

Albenia wrote:We fight all Tyranny. Making this no longer a War on Communism but a War on Tyranny in general. We can call it what we want but that fact stands.

Especially if we decide to Embassy these communists.

I agree.

TNUS voting for Lack? Inspiring.

Humpheria wrote:TNUS voting for Lack? Inspiring.

Noble.

[joke]At least it's not Hallo[/joke] OHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

Humpheria wrote:[joke]At least it's not Hallo[/joke] OHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

Damn it Humpy

Humpheria wrote:TNUS voting for Lack? Inspiring.

Praiseworthy.

Humpheria wrote:[joke]At least it's not Hallo[/joke] OHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

C'mon now.

Wow. Sky is giving up on the ideology faster than Chermania gets banjected from a region! Whew!

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I should make this clear: the War on Communism is still the War on Communism. Our methods and our strategy have changed, absolutely. Our war is no longer unconditional, and has been retooled to focus on dismantling the militant, totalitarian forces of The Red Fleet, Antifa and other armies who cloak their goals of territorial expansion with a supposed desire to eliminate racism. We have diversified our crusade to target fascist regions, and have forged alliances with left-leaning regions such as Juche Union in order to strengthen mutually shared goals. We are open to constructive partnerships with regions that lean left but practice a non-coercive form of socialism, welcome all forms of ideological diversity and do not cooperate with imperialist forces.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:we know it is you TTA.

Ipian wrote:Haha, no.

Pevvania wrote:So you know who TTA is, huh? Interesting.

Ipian wrote:Oh my god...

Ipian wrote:Ahhhhhhhhhhh! I am not TTA.

Pevvania wrote:The Time Alliance

Most Recent Government Activity: 4 minutes ago

Ipian wrote:Ahhhhhhhhhhh! I am not TTA.

Pevvania wrote:Goodbye.

Northern Prussia wrote:Hey hey hey... lets give the guy a fair chance. We speak of liberty and justice, yet all of you are throwing Ipian under the bus. Lets give him a chance without the government being biased as shown by the Chairman. Lets defuse the situation calmly and fairly.

Pevvania wrote:The Board already voted to ban TTA from the region. Ipian is clearly a TTA puppet.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Northern Prussia sympathizes with the traitor! He must also be one!

Northern Prussia wrote:And where is your proof Mr. President. I would like to see a compiled list of official telegrams, ip addresses, and a testimony from both sides of the room.

NP TO DA RESCUE

BWHAHAHA!!!!!!

I forgot about that little incident completely!

Pevvania wrote:I should make this clear: the War on Communism is still the War on Communism. Our methods and our strategy have changed, absolutely. Our war is no longer unconditional, and has been retooled to focus on dismantling the militant, totalitarian forces of The Red Fleet, Antifa and other armies who cloak their goals of territorial expansion with a supposed desire to eliminate racism. We have diversified our crusade to target fascist regions, and have forged alliances with left-leaning regions such as Juche Union in order to strengthen mutually shared goals. We are open to constructive partnerships with regions that lean left but practice a non-coercive form of socialism, welcome all forms of ideological diversity and do not cooperate with imperialist forces.

Name-wise it is "The War on communism" yes. But in Practice it is no longer "A war on Communism."

"The war on people we don't like"

jk kinda

Republic Of Minerva wrote:"The war on people we don't like"

jk kinda

Haha

I'm going to go ahead and publicly announce all of my votes, as many of you have already done.

My votes

Seat One: [nation=short]Lack There Of[/nation]

Seat Two: [nation=short]Humpheria[/nation]

Seat Three: [nation=short]The Amarican Empire[/nation]

Seat Four: [nation=short]Miencraft[/nation]

Seat Five: [nation=short]Ronald Reagan and Rick Grimes[/nation]

Ipian wrote:NP TO DA RESCUE

That is an event I deeply regret, and one that I'd like to publicly apologise once more for. It was a paranoid lapse in judgement that led to the unnecessary banning of an innocent nation.

Apologize? nah jk I luv you m8

Albenia wrote:Haha

we know it is you TTA

Albenia wrote:No.

That's idiotic. Drafts are infringement of Freedom.

Albenia wrote:And again. I don't trust anything Voluntary with America's current new generation.

Am I missing something?

Liberosia wrote:Am I missing something?

I don't like drafts by the military

and don't trust America's new generation.....

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Apologize? nah jk I luv you m8

we know it is you TTA

Yes. It is me.

Hallo and I will be rather inactive from tomorrow to the 27th. We are marching in the National Memorial day parade with our marching band and laying the wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldier. I march Tenor drums and he marches Sousaphone. I would like to point out that they are both really heavy and painful, so I will be doing a lot of sleeping, hence the inactivity.

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Pevvania wrote:That is an event I deeply regret, and one that I'd like to publicly apologise once more for. It was a paranoid lapse in judgement that led to the unnecessary banning of an innocent nation.

Thank you.

Godisdead wrote:Hallo and I will be rather inactive from tomorrow to the 27th. We are marching in the National Memorial day parade with our marching band and laying the wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldier. I march Tenor drums and he marches Sousaphone. I would like to point out that they are both really heavy and painful, so I will be doing a lot of sleeping, hence the inactivity.

Congratulations! Do this country proud and kick Obama in the nuts for me.

Godisdead wrote:Hallo and I will be rather inactive from tomorrow to the 27th. We are marching in the National Memorial day parade with our marching band and laying the wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldier. I march Tenor drums and he marches Sousaphone. I would like to point out that they are both really heavy and painful, so I will be doing a lot of sleeping, hence the inactivity.

Ok. Good to know. God bless his soul.

Godisdead wrote:Hallo and I will be rather inactive from tomorrow to the 27th. We are marching in the National Memorial day parade with our marching band and laying the wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldier. I march Tenor drums and he marches Sousaphone. I would like to point out that they are both really heavy and painful, so I will be doing a lot of sleeping, hence the inactivity.

Of course Hallo plays Sousaphone! :P

Humpheria wrote:Congratulations! Do this country proud and kick Obama in the nuts for me.

I second this. Humpy speaks the truth.

Humpheria wrote:Congratulations! Do this country proud and kick Obama in the nuts for me.

Oh, and do it multiple times if possible.

Humpheria wrote:Congratulations! Do this country proud and kick Obama in the nuts for me.

*Does something as respectful as this.*

*Humph tells him to kick Obama in the Nuts*

???

*Profit*

Humpheria wrote:Congratulations! Do this country proud and kick Obama in the nuts for me.

Do you really want them to make feet illegal afterwards?

You know, I think it's worth the risk.

Miencraft wrote:Do you really want them to make feet illegal afterwards?

You know, I think it's worth the risk.

500% worth it.

Ankhora wrote:500% worth it.

100,000,000% worth it.

Humpheria wrote:Congratulations! Do this country proud and kick Obama in the nuts for me.

I've been practicing my stank eye.

Ipian wrote:100,000,000% worth it.

999,999,999%

Ankhora wrote:999,999,999%

1(10^e)% worth it.

Infinity, (a concept which can be used as a largest number in some contexts. Googol (10100) and Googolplex ( ) and (Googolplexian) ( ) Graham's number, once claimed as the largest number ever used in a serious mathematical proof.) % worth it!!

Albenia wrote:*Does something as respectful as this.*

*Humph tells him to kick Obama in the Nuts*

???

*Profit*

I said congratulations and do this country proud!

Humpheria wrote:I said congratulations and do this country proud!

I'm actually prepared to give whatever money I happen to have in this room, which includes a rather generously sized box full of dollar coins, to anyone that successfully kicks Obama in the nuts.

The new tenor drums we have weigh 65 lbs. Which is disgusting.

Godisdead wrote:The new tenor drums we have weigh 65 lbs. Which is disgusting.

Sounds painful.

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Dammit Ipian, I keep refreshing after I see the (1) next to "Libertatem" thinking something relevant has happened, only to find a comment you deleted.

Miencraft wrote:Sounds painful.

They make me wish for death.

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So, TTA...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TeV8yp8ALM&feature=kp

I gotcha yet mein?

Godisdead wrote:So, TTA...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TeV8yp8ALM&feature=kp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyVcApr6ufg

Godisdead wrote:So, TTA...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TeV8yp8ALM&feature=kp

I like.

Check out the songs from the Book of Mormon Musical.

Rather Hilarious.

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I will not be able to vote for Seat 3 or 4. I will be busy this weekend.

Miencraft wrote:Dammit Ipian, I keep refreshing after I see the (1) next to "Libertatem" thinking something relevant has happened, only to find a comment you deleted.

I am currently discussing with my advisers about The Communist Bloc's embassy proposal.

I am ordering pizza tonight. <3

Any of you guys ever heard of RationalWiki? - http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page

I somehow stumbled upon it on an internet trawl. It defines its purpose as:

"Analyzing and refuting pseudoscience and the anti-science movement.

Documenting the full range of crank ideas.

Explorations of authoritarianism and fundamentalism.

Analysis and criticism of how these subjects are handled in the media.

We welcome contributors, and encourage those who disagree with us to register and engage in constructive dialogue."

Well, I haven't found much analysis or constructive dialogue. On just about every page I've visited on this site is overwhelming statist dogma* that enjoys utilising often-heard straw man arguments, simplistic one-line answers and memes. This Wiki is anything but rational. Case in point: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/New_Deal

This fascinating article makes a few sarcastic asides to how 'Communist' the New Deal was, before 'confronting' common anti-New Deal arguments with content so fallacious I spat out coffee all over my desk. The writer had the intellectual dishonesty to suggest that the New Deal ended the Depression - an assertion accepted by no reputable modern economist, including the one, the only, Paul Krugman. It fits the Keynesian view that the war ended the Depression, as it caused much more public funds to be expended and resulted in a visible and sharp reduction in unemployment.

I suggest you all read it. I'll edit the article to add a new section - "New Deal Realism" tomorrow. Tell me what you think about it.

*I dislike using the words "liberal" or "progressive" in the context of American social democrats, because they believe neither in liberalism nor in true social progress.

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lol I Ipian'd.

Anyways, totally unrelated, but I get the feeling that Ringo is going to be the last surviving Beatle, and pretty soon.

Miencraft wrote:lol I Ipian'd.

Anyways, totally unrelated, but I get the feeling that Ringo is going to be the last surviving Beatle, and pretty soon.

Awww, I really like Paul :(

Pevvania wrote:Awww, I really like Paul :(

Yup, I'm just assuming the worst from "unknown virus", because, odds are, if it's unknown, it's probably deadly. Or poison, which is pretty deadly anyways.

It's important to note that an important part of Keynesian doctrine is counter-cyclical policy. It's not all tax and spend. Tax cuts, spending increases and monetary expansion are supposed to stimulate consumption during recessions in order to get spending flowing again, which according to that school produces economic growth. Spending cuts, tax increases and monetary contraction are promoted by Keynesians to curb excessive expansion and prevent the bubbles they create from popping. In Keynes's words, "The remedy for the boom is not a higher rate of interest, but a lower rate of interest! For that may enable the boom to last. The right remedy for the trade cycle is not to be found in abolishing booms and thus keeping us permanently in a semi-slump; but in abolishing slumps and thus keeping us permanently in a quasi-boom"

I think it's incredibly arrogant to name an economic school after yourself.

Miencraft wrote:lol I Ipian'd.

lol

Miencraft wrote:lol I Ipian'd.

Anyways, totally unrelated, but I get the feeling that Ringo is going to be the last surviving Beatle, and pretty soon.

Uh, no. Paul just got sick that's all. He will live forever. Paul is the best obviously. Ringo is garbage, even during the time of the Beatles he wasn't even a good drummer they sorta just had him just cuz.

And can we NOT open an embassy with commies? Why do we keep insisting on allowing communism in any form around here? Most of us are in agreal that communism is awful. Seriously. So why we allow communist parties and communist embassies to be a party of an anti-communist region is beyond me. Our flag is a crossed out hammer and sickle for Pete's sake?! This is getting ridiculous. I will have serious concerns for this region if we open this embassy. If they are tyrannical or not it's the principle of the matter that counts.

I have switched my vote since manny of you are right, Lack hasn't really been active this week and TNUS is a good guy and I support him.

I agree with the honorable Reagan, communism should not be allowed into one of the last refuges of freedom.

The Amarican Empire wrote:I agree with the honorable Reagan, communism should not be allowed into one of the last refuges of freedom.

amen

Pevvania wrote:I am currently discussing with my advisers about The Communist Bloc's embassy proposal.

I would advise you not to make any final decisions until I've established a two-way line of communication. This is a most unusual, but perhaps momentous, occasion.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:I have switched my vote since manny of you are right, Lack hasn't really been active this week and TNUS is a good guy and I support him.

Indeed. I wonder what became of Lack.

Perhaps I should have stuck around for earlier discussions. I, myself, was at a movie.

That was a very succinct and accurate analysis of Keynesianism, Pevv.

The Amarican Empire wrote:I agree with the honorable Reagan, communism should not be allowed into one of the last refuges of freedom.

Infringement of Freedomof Speech.

To deny Communists freedom is to deny a basic freedom.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I think it's incredibly arrogant to name an economic school after yourself.

Blakenomics

That's my philosophy.

Instead of telling us about freedom of speech, why don't you go and tell the communists and the fascists about it.

Freedom of speech is a sound bite. It depends on where the offensive speech is given; the property owner may regulate his own square footage however he likes.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Instead of telling us about freedom of speech, why don't you go and tell the communists and the fascists about it.

my thoughts exactly.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:And can we NOT open an embassy with commies? Why do we keep insisting on allowing communism in any form around here? Most of us are in agreal that communism is awful. Seriously. So why we allow communist parties and communist embassies to be a party of an anti-communist region is beyond me. Our flag is a crossed out hammer and sickle for Pete's sake?! This is getting ridiculous. I will have serious concerns for this region if we open this embassy. If they are tyrannical or not it's the principle of the matter that counts.

I must say again, we are a Democracy. We hold regular elections for President, multiple members of the cabinet, and have an open legislature for all citizens in our region.

2a. All people within The Communist Bloc will hold the freedoms of religion, expression, association, as well as belief and speech

^Its in our Constitution. I am not a communist personally, and TCB has welcomed me from Day 1.

I must tell you what I tell all our new citizens: We are not an ideological state. We dont go around and convert people haha. Apart from our name, you wont find much about communism in our government. I would love for Libertatem to be our friend, and I think it would be a wasted opportunity to reject our friendship on the grounds of our name.

O and TTA this region was modeled from a company perspective, companies don't have to allow free speech since its private property.

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Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:And can we NOT open an embassy with commies? Why do we keep insisting on allowing communism in any form around here? Most of us are in agreal that communism is awful. Seriously. So why we allow communist parties and communist embassies to be a party of an anti-communist region is beyond me. Our flag is a crossed out hammer and sickle for Pete's sake?! This is getting ridiculous. I will have serious concerns for this region if we open this embassy. If they are tyrannical or not it's the principle of the matter that counts.

The Amarican Empire wrote:I agree with the honorable Reagan, communism should not be allowed into one of the last refuges of freedom.

There's a distinct difference between libertarian communism and authoritarian communism. Take it from someone who's seen it: a link to the left (and the former) is critical to our region's mission to destroy the latter, regardless of whether or not you agree.

The region in question is a republic that, by all indications, bears more similarities to our region than you may have assumed at first glance. Our defamation of the hammer and sickle has not dissuaded them from opening dialogue - they seek diplomatic relations, and it just so happens our region's leadership seeks much the same thing. I believe Libertatem and The Communist Bloc both have something to offer each other, and reinforces my belief that peace can be attained between the parts of both wings that are dedicated to liberty and justice.

Your "principle" is a flimsy excuse for a McCarthyist attitude. If you want to do something about what you perceive as a menace, go fight the real one rather than complaining about an imagined one. Our armed forces always have room for extra WA nations to fight the scourge of authoritarianism, but many on our RMB have little patience for conspiracy and defamation. Are we clear?

Peace is a lie, there is only passion.

Through passion, I gain strength.

Through strength, I gain power.

Through power, I gain victory.

Through victory, my chains are broken.

Libertatem shall free me.

Zenny Ambassador wrote:I must say again, we are a Democracy. We hold regular elections for President, multiple members of the cabinet, and have an open legislature for all citizens in our region.

2a. All people within The Communist Bloc will hold the freedoms of religion, expression, association, as well as belief and speech

^Its in our Constitution. I am not a communist personally, and TCB has welcomed me from Day 1.

I must tell you what I tell all our new citizens: We are not an ideological state. We dont go around and convert people haha. Apart from our name, you wont find much about communism in our government. I would love for Libertatem to be our friend, and I think it would be a wasted opportunity to reject our friendship on the grounds of our name.

Well then your government structure makes no sense. How can a region of communism have all these democratic government positions? You're region is just a mess of blended ideological nonsense then, ma'am. Why should we do business with a region that doesn't even know it's own political or philosophical identity?

The Amarican Empire wrote:Instead of telling us about freedom of speech, why don't you go and tell the communists and the fascists about it.

Just a tad hypocritical. And most Communist Regions have FoS.

The Amarican Empire wrote:O and TTA this region was modeled from a company perspective, companies don't have to allow free speech since its private property.

Is it still a company?

Why'd the Company have an Empire?

Albenia wrote:Just a tad hypocritical. And most Communist Regions have FoS.Is it still a company?

Why'd the Company have an Empire?

A Corporate Empire

aka a Monopoly.

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