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Region: Libertatem
As a member of the house and the house minority leader (now that I think of it), I vote aye and urge all other members to do the same.
To be honest I completely forgot.
Could you make a poll for the House vote, please?
A House member must motion and one must second for a vote to commence. That's protocol.
Poll is still up, guys. http://www.poll-maker.com/poll365808x515c4Dc6-14
As a House member, I motion it to a vote.
Right. I move the previous question. Is there a second?
(side question; does the house use Robert's Rules of Order)?
Second.
In accordance with House protocols, the TABLOID Act is now being voted on.
Aye.
Aye.
How would you guys feel about embassies with the region Philosophy 115
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Could someone with access to the WFE link the Dep. of State link to my factbook? https://www.nationstates.net/nation=midland_county/detail=factbook/id=main
Aye.
I don't know what to feel about them, other than annoyance at seeing them fail to use commas correctly.
Agreed. But it's the closest thing I could find to an atheist region except the Atheist Empire, which we already have embassies with.
I don't see the benefit.
In the great debate, the atheists beat the Christians by a landslide: don't,put,spaces,between,their,commas to 7.
Hallo Island
But is there really any reason to have an embassy with any region like that?
I don't really care whom we align with as long as they're useful to our cause; making embassies with an atheist region just because they're an atheist region seems very pointless and would just give the Reds something to feel their fake pride over when they conquer it because they're not useful enough to be defended.
Tyrinth, The New United States, Condealism
Of course you don't. Maybe if it were a religious region you would see it better.
So far the poll put the top 3 requested embassies as capitalist regions, atheist regions, and libertarian regions, and we're going to seek embassies with all of them because it seems that so far it's what people want. Fighting communism isn't our only cause, by the way. We can have friendly discussion with them. It will be enlightening. Maybe some of them will become libertarian. It's pretty hard to find a region which we would find no advantage in having embassies with.
International Union For Peace
You'd be surprised.
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Perhaps, but even still we must ensure they are relevant to our major interests before we pursue these minor causes; we do not need embassies to have discussion. Anyone is welcome to come to our territories to discuss things. If discussion is what we're after, I'm sure we'll find we have wasted an embassy.
You say that as if we are all of the sudden going to run out of embassies.
International Union For Peace
Not officially, but I would like it to. That would be a motion on rules and would need to be passed through simple majority to make happen. I would be in favor. I ran my Board that way.
You get the point, do you not?
I understand the point you are making, but I disagree. If a friendly region is willing to have diplomatic relations with us, there's no reason not to reciprocate. It's not like we'll be wasting resources on them.
International Union For Peace
There's plenty of reasons not to reciprocate: Whether there's inactivity, a low population, or a lack of security, some regions just don't have much to bring to the table. And we must bear in mind that those that do should be willing to... and while I'm not against going door-to-door and asking familiar, like-minded regions - those that we know who share a lot of interests in common with us - to establish embassies with us, it doesn't make much sense to do that solely on the basis of an arbitrary category like "capitalist", "libertarian", or "atheist". All we have in common with the first category for certain is an economic outlook, a socio-political outlook for the second, and for the third... well, we have a handful of atheistic residents.
Our diplomatic priorities should be strengthening ties with existing allies and finding new regions to associate with in the hopes of future alliance. We're not trying to Illuminati it up and strike up an embassy request with every region we see (especially in these times), or even every region that fits under a certain category: Instead, every diplomatic endeavor should have its own individual purpose.
You're not going to deliver anything less than that, are you, Mr. Manager?
Miencraft
Philosophy 115 has a few RMB messages per day, so by most standards they aren't inactive. They have a higher population than us, and they are secure with an active founder. This is not a region that doesn't have anything to bring to the table. And it's not just because of atheism, in fact nothing there explicitly states anything about atheism. I just assumed many people there would be atheist, and it seems like a place with many clever individuals, being specifically dedicated to philosophical discussion. I obviously didn't pick out the first region I saw that seemed atheist, and if you had looked any further than the grammatical errors in their WFE, you would see that they could have plenty to offer as potential friends or even allies.
Hallo Island, The American Empire In Libertatem, International Union For Peace
I support Midland County on this issue.
International Union For Peace
My point wasn't that they had nothing to offer us - my point was that, even if they do, we should at least ascertain whether they'd be willing to do so (and whether it would be a good idea for us to return the favor in kind) first.
Because we do have an important resource to allocate: time. Manpower, too. We can't just send our diplomats off willy-nilly because you're in the mood to add some manner of token group to our sphere of influence just for the sake of it; if you want to win us some allies through diplomacy, I'd advise starting with the connections and resources we already have and searching from there. Get our existing allies to recommend us some new avenues for diplomacy, or better yet, get to know the friends of our friends a little better. My main concern is that I've never heard of this Philosophy 115 before you mentioned them - nor they of us, it would appear - and we don't exactly seem to have any common ground (ideological, relational, circumstantial, or otherwise) that we could use to negotiate the creation of an embassy.
But if your message on their RMB finally gets an answer, and they're interested in relations with us, by all means, go for it - they seem to have a solid reputation and large population, and those are good qualities to look for in potential allies. It's just that you're asking the wrong questions: It's not what kind of regions we should get to know, it's who we should get to know better.
Miencraft, Tyrinth
I totally agree, and I respect your experience, and I definitely thank you for the advice, but you seemed to have misjudged my intentions. I wasn't saying we should start asking for an embassy right away. I was asking whether you guys thought it would be worth cultivating a friendship with them and possibly an embassy in the future, if they were amenable to that. I actually resided there for a short time. They're friendly people. I will definitely make use of your suggestions in the future, but I will also seek a friendship with this region regardless of your reservations.
International Union For Peace
Perhaps; if it seems like they will be valuable to us then I'm sure we can make them our friends at the very least and potentially work up to an embassy if we find it useful.
I, for one, do not think they will be of use to us, but do feel free to prove me wrong.
Condealism
Ah, makes sense. I see what you're going for now.
Well, like I said, go for it - I'm trust that you have it under control. I just thought I'd take the opportunity to provide some insight - to make sure you have a good picture of how to represent Libertatem abroad in a useful and effective manner - before you get started, and now that that's out of the way, I'll leave you to it. May your diplomatic endeavors be fruitful and many.
*I trust
Well, Thank you for that. I want you to know that I trust and respect your opinions, and I'll gladly accept your input whenever you see fit.
International Union For Peace
Thanks. I probably shouldn't have gotten so worked up about it, but our foreign affairs are kind of a big deal - and I don't do much else here aside from providing advice and whatnot to the next generation of great Libertatemites, so...
Hello everybody! I am new here. I have attached my bid for citizenship below and hope to soon join the map.
1. Are you a foreign dignitary as defined in FRAUD?
[ ] Yes, and I will answer question 1a
[X] No, and I will skip to question 2
1a. What region do you represent?
[ ]
2. On what date did you arrive in Libertatem?
If you are unable to remember exactly, estimate as closely as possible.
[19]/[July]/[2015]
3. Do you plan on holding public office?*
[X] Yes (Answer 4)
[ ] No (Answer 4 or Skip to 5)
4. What nation under your control, if any, currently holds WA status?**
[Holy Serbia and Montenegro]
5. Do you have knowledge of and agree to obey all the Laws of Libertatem, particularly the FRAUD Act?
[X] Yes [ ] No
6. Would you like to join one or more of Libertatem's political parties? If so, which?
[ ]
Check this box if you are creating a new party:
[X]
Welcome!
International Union For Peace, Sweden And Finland
Wow, you really didn't read FRAUD or the application page.
Regardless, applications will be closed for a couple of days while I reorganize the testing procedure. I'll announce it when it is ready.
Tyrinth, Sweden And Finland
I read FRAUD, but it is kind of hard to read. I'm pretty sure I've got what it is pretty much about.
Welcome, fellow male.
Sweden And Finland
Thank you.
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You need to stay in libertatem for atleast 10 days before you can be granted a citizenship according to what I find is a very complex FRAUD act.
Sweden And Finland
I have returned after seeing what cringy things I said, but I am abstaining from politics or the military for a while. I am going on vacation in a couple of days to Canada, and therefore probably won't be the most available person regardless.
Sweden And Finland
Have a good time eh. Stay away from the French hosers. Drink a Keith's and relax know.
Sorry for telling you what to do, friend.
Sweden And Finland
Hello everybody! I am new here. I have attached my bid for citizenship below and hope to soon join the map.
1. Are you a foreign dignitary as defined in FRAUD?
[ ] Yes, and I will answer question 1a
[X] No, and I will skip to question 2
1a. What region do you represent?
[ ]
2. On what date did you arrive in Libertatem?
If you are unable to remember exactly, estimate as closely as possible.
[1]/[June]/[2015]
3. Do you plan on holding public office?*
[X] Yes (Answer 4)
[ ] No (Answer 4 or Skip to 5)
4. What nation under your control, if any, currently holds WA status?**
[WA status]
5. Do you have knowledge of and agree to obey all the Laws of Libertatem, particularly the FRAUD Act?
[X] Yes [ ] No
6. Would you like to join one or more of Libertatem's political parties? If so, which?
[Democratic-Republican party ]
Check this box if you are creating a new party:
[]
Sweden And Finland
As per my knowledge citizenship applications are suspended as of now, until further orders.
Sweden And Finland
KI, I wish you the best of luck in your future as the IA Manager...
Tyrinth, Sweden And Finland
Haha, I can see the difficulty from these applicants. In all seriousness though, thank you.
Miencraft, Sweden And Finland
Who else is hyped for Fallout 4? You can build frickin towns and stores and stuff. Yassss
Kings Island, Pevvania, Muh Roads, International Union For Peace
Hi guys. Sorry I was inactive for 2 days.
OK, thanks.
I believe The Democratic Republican Party isn't active anymore. You could join my party.
._.
I'm planning to pre-order it and get the "Pipboy" that comes with it.
Two days isn't much.
Oh, welcome.
Sweden And Finland
Thank you.
Good morning Libertatem
Humpheria, Sweden And Finland
Evening
International Union For Peace, Sweden And Finland
Uh
Where
Sweden And Finland
Here in India
Sweden And Finland
I'm aware of the FRAUD Act's rules. Hey, did anyone notice that all of the acts are acronyms? I'm pretty sure that everyone knows this.
Sweden And Finland
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jul/20/sepp-blatter-fifa-dollar-bills-press-conference-lee-nelson
ROFL, Lee nelson just won my heart out, although he is not funny this is hilarious
Sepp Blater be like are these real notes, should I grab some
Sweden And Finland
There once was a guy called Blatter
Whose bank balance kept growing fatter
He was showered with cash
By some trailer park trash
But counterfeit don't really matter...
Sweden And Finland
That's the point!
Sweden And Finland
The point is to have awesome acronyms? Nice idea!
Miencraft, International Union For Peace, Sweden And Finland
I love coming up with new acronyms.
Sweden And Finland
I understand your point. Well said.
Sweden And Finland
Somewhere.
Sweden And Finland
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Pevvania
http://i.imgur.com/mvOxUaG.jpg
Sweden And Finland
What's this? Trying to buy voters with dank memes? How dare you sir
Sweden And Finland
Buying votes? Isn't that illegal?
Sweden And Finland
Can somebody put this in the laws?
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=hallo_island/detail=factbook/id=446314
Also, lets update the parties, huh?
Kings Island
I've posted 4 requests with attached summaries.
I don't doubt that we passed it, I just don't remember it.
Pev is in charge of both of those.
I plea the fifth.
Hello
Humpheria
hi there
Zauaria
http://imgur.com/uvh1K1S.png
I support Humpheria
oh honey no
Miencraft, Tyrinth, Pevvania, The New United States
I like it, actually.
Meh. Too immature and cartoony for my taste.
Hallo Island
I am looking to hire a new campaign staffer that will achieve the unofficial Chief of Staff position, if elected. It has no power other than they are great to rely on and I will consult them on almost anything. I will be giving the person the highest possible security clearance the president can give so they can weigh in. If you'd like to be vetted, let me know.
Hi guys. I should be way more active from now on. Cause exams and stuff are over.
Pevvania, Humpheria, International Union For Peace
Welcome back!
Looks like the Chief of Staff vetting is getting heated. Any more applicants?
Fun fact: the Miencraftic GDP is 3 quadrillion dollars.
International Union For Peace
Mine is 421 trillion :b
International Union For Peace
As much as I love the statue of liberty as a symbol, it's a tad too American for this region.
Hallo Island, International Union For Peace
Nothing is "too American".
Pevvania
And this definitely isn't America.
International Union For Peace
You guys can catch me stateside in about a month. Get ready to say 'Welcome to Miami'!*
*Autographs are $99. No refunds.
Just watched Gavin McInnes' #takeusdown video and I'm proud to announce I'm now an out-and-out pure-blooded commie.
International Union For Peace
http://imgur.com/8nAzMMx.png
International Union For Peace
Maybe not, but this organization should be representative of libertarians worldwide.
We have people here from Canada, Britain, Australia, France, Germany, Scandinavia, etc.
Pevvania, The New United States, Humpheria
better, but still not great.
I like it as a personal flag, but no one is going to see the text in the top corner.
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Written by Refuge Isle.