Post Archive

Region: Libertatem

History

For a long time there has been a binding force in Libertatem, from 1st to 2nd republic.

That force is of course, mhomen.

With that I announce my candidacy for President of Libertatem under the mhomen Party. With mhomen as our guiding light we will stronger than ever.

- Establishing a regional religion: mhomenism

- Spreading the word of mhomen to regions beyond

- Abolishing evil commies

- and more!!!!!!!

mhomen bless Libertatem!

A vote for Aradites is a vote for mhomen!

Pevvania, Rateria

The Aradites wrote:For a long time there has been a binding force in Libertatem, from 1st to 2nd republic.

That force is of course, mhomen.

With that I announce my candidacy for President of Libertatem under the mhomen Party. With mhomen as our guiding light we will stronger than ever.

- Establishing a regional religion: mhomenism

- Spreading the word of mhomen to regions beyond

- Abolishing evil commies

- and more!!!!!!!

mhomen bless Libertatem!

A vote for Aradites is a vote for mhomen!

GET AWAY FROM ME SATAN!

Rateria

Humpheria wrote:What is everyone's opinion on giving Libertatem Polling Services communications role so he can conduct polls more easily? As a private entity his usage would be limited but if this polling stuff is something everyone likes then I don't see why not.

Thoughts?

You've defeated my purpose, I don't want anyone to see anyone else's votes.

It's all private.

Libiceland

Libertatem Polling Service wrote:You've defeated my purpose, I don't want anyone to see anyone else's votes.

It's all private.

What? I meant region wide telegram capabilities without having to do it 8 at a time or spend money on stamps.

The Aradites wrote:For a long time there has been a binding force in Libertatem, from 1st to 2nd republic.

That force is of course, mhomen.

With that I announce my candidacy for President of Libertatem under the mhomen Party. With mhomen as our guiding light we will stronger than ever.

- Establishing a regional religion: mhomenism

- Spreading the word of mhomen to regions beyond

- Abolishing evil commies

- and more!!!!!!!

mhomen bless Libertatem!

A vote for Aradites is a vote for mhomen!

oh ffs why did i even bother running??

Humpheria wrote:What? I meant region wide telegram capabilities without having to do it 8 at a time or spend money on stamps.

Oh sorry, pretty new to the games, please give me that.

Libertatem Polling Service wrote:Oh sorry, pretty new to the games, please give me that.

Asking the opinion of the region. I don't want to unilaterally create a regional officer position.

I don't believe in connotations

I am appalled by the lack of Roads sycophancy in this election

Humpheria, Rateria

The United States Of Patriots wrote:I am appalled by the lack of Roads sycophancy in this election

<3 roads

Muh Roads, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

It's not a mature Pokémon story unless there are people breeding and selling rare Pokémon illegally

Preview of next weeks movie playing on the discord bar! 🎥

https://youtu.be/kAoOOqOKLW8

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Miencraft wrote:Maybe the "CITIZENSHIP" link in the WFE will have some information.

How do I become a citizen?

Czekania wrote:How do I become a citizen?

Maybe the "CITIZENSHIP" link will have some information.

Libiceland

My eyes shine with white power

For this upcoming Presidential election, I will support Pevvania, as he has certainly proved his worth and ability to lead with his wit and motivation to truly make Libertatem great again. Pev has led numerous military operations successfully and has passed/voted for legislation that actively reduced the size of our government here in Libertatem. The opposition says that our military should be reduced to keep the size of government small, but they neglect to see that we need to increase the amount of soldiers in our military because we barely have enough able and ready nations to roll out when a new mission arises or in the scenario of a possible attack on Libertatem. As a Senator, Pev has stayed true to his values and principles by voting against legislation like the TEACH Act and the EPIC Act that would have grew the size of government, but then he also voted in favor of legislation that would protect the citizens and integrity of Libertatem like the Law Code and the Liberty Amendment. Pev is truly the best candidate for Libertatem and he is a man of his word and he is a man of action, and I promise you all that Pev will do his absolute to stay true to his campaign promises if he is elected to the office of President. Believe me folks, Pev will truly make Libertatem great again!

Pevvania, Humpheria, Fascist Dred, Jadentopian Order

Venomringo wrote:For this upcoming Presidential election, I will support Pevvania, as he has certainly proved his worth and ability to lead with his wit and motivation to truly make Libertatem great again. Pev has led numerous military operations successfully and has passed/voted for legislation that actively reduced the size of our government here in Libertatem. The opposition says that our military should be reduced to keep the size of government small, but they neglect to see that we need to increase the amount of soldiers in our military because we barely have enough able and ready nations to roll out when a new mission arises or in the scenario of a possible attack on Libertatem. As a Senator, Pev has stayed true to his values and principles by voting against legislation like the TEACH Act and the EPIC Act that would have grew the size of government, but then he also voted in favor of legislation that would protect the citizens and integrity of Libertatem like the Law Code and the Liberty Amendment. Pev is truly the best candidate for Libertatem and he is a man of his word and he is a man of action, and I promise you all that Pev will do his absolute to stay true to his campaign promises if he is elected to the office of President. Believe me folks, Pev will truly make Libertatem great again!

Why the f*ck would someone attack Libertatem? We have a founder AND the WA delegate doesn't have any power

Pulceria

The United States Of Patriots wrote:I am appalled by the lack of Roads sycophancy in this election

u n me guna fite

sorry for the inactivity. I had to write a 120 question test on 4 different vehicle safety devices.

Venomringo wrote:For this upcoming Presidential election, I will support Pevvania, as he has certainly proved his worth and ability to lead with his wit and motivation to truly make Libertatem great again. Pev has led numerous military operations successfully and has passed/voted for legislation that actively reduced the size of our government here in Libertatem. The opposition says that our military should be reduced to keep the size of government small, but they neglect to see that we need to increase the amount of soldiers in our military because we barely have enough able and ready nations to roll out when a new mission arises or in the scenario of a possible attack on Libertatem. As a Senator, Pev has stayed true to his values and principles by voting against legislation like the TEACH Act and the EPIC Act that would have grew the size of government, but then he also voted in favor of legislation that would protect the citizens and integrity of Libertatem like the Law Code and the Liberty Amendment. Pev is truly the best candidate for Libertatem and he is a man of his word and he is a man of action, and I promise you all that Pev will do his absolute to stay true to his campaign promises if he is elected to the office of President. Believe me folks, Pev will truly make Libertatem great again!

Thank you so much for the kind words, Senator Venom.

Humpheria, Venomringo

Post self-deleted by Pulceria.

Venomringo wrote:For this upcoming Presidential election, I will support Pevvania, as he has certainly proved his worth and ability to lead with his wit and motivation to truly make Libertatem great again. Pev has led numerous military operations successfully and has passed/voted for legislation that actively reduced the size of our government here in Libertatem. The opposition says that our military should be reduced to keep the size of government small, but they neglect to see that we need to increase the amount of soldiers in our military because we barely have enough able and ready nations to roll out when a new mission arises or in the scenario of a possible attack on Libertatem. As a Senator, Pev has stayed true to his values and principles by voting against legislation like the TEACH Act and the EPIC Act that would have grew the size of government, but then he also voted in favor of legislation that would protect the citizens and integrity of Libertatem like the Law Code and the Liberty Amendment. Pev is truly the best candidate for Libertatem and he is a man of his word and he is a man of action, and I promise you all that Pev will do his absolute to stay true to his campaign promises if he is elected to the office of President. Believe me folks, Pev will truly make Libertatem great again!

Hey I can do it to :)

For this upcoming election I Pulceria will support Auxorii, as he has certainly proved his worth and ability to lead with his wit and motivation to truly make Libertatem great again. Auxorii has NOT led numerous military operations successfully (which is part of why I like him) because he knows that non intervention is the best foreign policy, and will actively reduced the size of our government here in Libertatem. The opposition says that our military should be increased to keep Libertatem safe, but they neglect to see that we do not need to increase the amount of soldiers in our military because it is near impossible for a successful attack to be made on Libertatem. As a Senator, Auxorii has stayed true to his values and principles by voting in favor of legislation that would protect the citizens and integrity of Libertatem. Auxorii is truly the best candidate for Libertatem and he is a man of his word and he is a man of action, and I promise you all that Auxorii will do his absolute best to stay true to his campaign promises if he is elected to the office of President. Believe me folks, Auxorii will truly make Libertatem great again!

Auxorii, Libiceland

Libiceland wrote:Why the f*ck would someone attack Libertatem? We have a founder AND the WA delegate doesn't have any power

Meant to say our allies****

Venomringo wrote:Meant to say our allies****

Why the hell should we protect other regions?

Auxorii, Pulceria

Libiceland wrote:Why the hell should we protect other regions?

I prefer "heck". But I still agree :)

Libiceland

Libiceland wrote:Why the hell should we protect other regions?

It's what allies do from time to time. You know like we help them and they help us.

Miencraft, Rateria

[B]Office of the Speaker[/B]

Following negotiations led by myself and the Chancellor of State, the governments of both Libertatem and the CPE have agreed to an amended version of the treaty the Chancellor wrote some time ago. The Senate passed this last night by a vote of 4 to 1, and is currently on the floor awaiting a vote in the Central Pacific Empire.

Rateria, Venomringo, Fascist Dred, Jadentopian Order, Libertatem Polling Service

Honestly why do white people still exist they should just kill themselves

Libiceland wrote:Why the hell should we protect other regions?

As a large region with a functioning military there is an obligation on our behalf to protect our weaker allies who are trying to live as Libertarians but are unable to due to constant threats.

We as a region acknowledged this obligation and passed the PROTECT Act with no opposition, even Auxorii the apparent savior against interventionism supported this bill in the Regional Messaging Board.

This Act turned the moral burden into a legal burden and all military operations are more or less based upon the mandate created by this act.

Hope this answered your question.

Rateria, Venomringo

For this election, I am endorsing Hyderbourg. His success during his administration is overshadowed by controversy, which harmed Hyderbourg's reputation as a wise and caring president. Hyderbourg increased Libertatem's population significantly, and during his term, the IRU merged with us. He authored PROTECT, and established the current military ranking system. He works hard at making sure the merger with CPE goes smoothly. He goes out of his way to help other government officials, such as me. He could have increased the population much more than he did if he was still in office. I underestimated him at first, and I was certainly wrong. He did an excellent job as president. I'm an RLP member, but I'm not afraid to vote for someone I believe in, even if said person isn't a member of the party. If you vote for Hyderbourg, you are giving him a chance to leave a positive mark on this region once again.

#ReturnofHyder

Hyderbourg

Rateria wrote:For this election, I am endorsing Hyderbourg. His success during his administration is overshadowed by controversy, which harmed Hyderbourg's reputation as a wise and caring president. Hyderbourg increased Libertatem's population significantly, and during his term, the IRU merged with us. He authored PROTECT, and established the current military ranking system. He works hard at making sure the merger with CPE goes smoothly. He goes out of his way to help other government officials, such as me. He could have increased the population much more than he did if he was still in office. I underestimated him at first, and I was certainly wrong. He did an excellent job as president. I'm an RLP member, but I'm not afraid to vote for someone I believe in, even if said person isn't a member of the party. If you vote for Hyderbourg, you are giving him a chance to leave a positive mark on this region once again.

#ReturnofHyder

Thank you thoroughly for the kind words Chancellor, they will not be forgotten.

Rateria

Hyderbourg wrote:As a large region with a functioning military there is an obligation on our behalf to protect our weaker allies who are trying to live as Libertarians but are unable to due to constant threats.

We as a region acknowledged this obligation and passed the PROTECT Act with no opposition, even Auxorii the apparent savior against interventionism supported this bill in the Regional Messaging Board.

This Act turned the moral burden into a legal burden and all military operations are more or less based upon the mandate created by this act.

Hope this answered your question.

If they want to live as libertarians just join Libertatem

Auxorii

[

Fascist Dred wrote:It's what allies do from time to time. You know like we help them and they help us.

We don't get sh*t in return

Pulceria

Libiceland wrote:[We don't get sh*t in return

Which I am glad. I would rather not receive human waste deposits as a thank you gift.

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Can somebody give me the communication permissions please, Humph, I know you can do it.

You have executive power.

It is not our responsibility to defend regions and use our military to defend them when they haven't taken their own security measures themselves.

Libiceland

Libiceland wrote:Why the hell should we protect other regions?

Because that's called being allies.

Libiceland wrote:If they want to live as libertarians just join Libertatem

If only there were some way to convince them to move to our region...

Rateria, Fascist Dred

Fascist Dred wrote:It's what allies do from time to time. You know like we help them and they help us.

The day our government forces all of Libertatem into war to help our useless allies with their own problems, is the day I leave. if an another region is in trouble its their fault. And I won't risk my peace for their sake.

I will only support alliances that only provide commerce (access to other RMB's).

If they wan't protection Join us, if not GO AWAY!.

#determiNATION

Pulceria wrote:I won't risk my peace for their sake.

You won't have to do anything- you're not in the military.

Hyderbourg, The United States Of Patriots, Fascist Dred

Pulceria wrote:The day our government forces all of Libertatem into war to help our useless allies with their own problems, is the day I leave.

This is why our military is strictly voluntary. No one is forced to join, but anyone is welcome to.

Miencraft, Rateria, Fascist Dred

Libiceland wrote:If they want to live as libertarians just join Libertatem

This sounds an awful lot like the "well if you don't like paying taxes just leave" argument.

If they want to live as libertarians, part of that is being able to live where they want. If they don't want to move here, they don't have to. But, because they're our allies, we can work together for mutual benefit - one of those benefits is protection.

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Jadentopian Order wrote:You won't have to do anything- you're not in the military.

Jadentopian Order wrote:This is why our military is strictly voluntary. No one is forced to join, but anyone is welcome to.

I am still effected. and it creates enemies for libertatem.

Miencraft wrote:This sounds an awful lot like the "well if you don't like paying taxes just leave" argument.

That argument is logically sound.

Miencraft wrote:

If they want to live as libertarians, part of that is being able to live where they want. If they don't want to move here, they don't have to.

Yep. But they don't get our benefits if they move elsewhere.

Miencraft wrote: because they're our allies, we can work together for mutual benefit - one of those benefits is protection.

I believe that that is the role of libertatem's citizens. Not the role of libertatem and its Allies

Auxorii

Pulceria wrote:That argument is logically sound.

"I don't like paying taxes"

"Well you agreed to pay taxes because you agreed to the social contract when you were born here/moved here"

"No I didn't"

"Why don't you just move somewhere else then"

It's not logically sound because it's based on the premise that, first of all, it's on the individual to remove themselves from a situation where they're the victim of theft (which income taxation 100% is); and, second of all, that it's possible to automatically consent to taxation by existing in a certain place. Neither of these are true. The government, which is stealing from people, is initiating force and therefore violating the NAP. It is not on their victim to end this violation. You cannot consent to something just because you're in a certain place. That's like saying "well she was in my bedroom so that means she consented to sex".

Pulceria wrote:Yep. But they don't get our benefits if they move elsewhere.

Well, if they're not here, they don't want our specific intraregional benefits, now do they?

Pulceria wrote:I believe that that is the role of libertatem's citizens. Not the role of libertatem and its Allies

We have a representative government - we elect representatives to serve on our behalf. Our representative government creates alliances. It's then the job of our government to maintain those alliances, and to ensure that we're getting something good out of it for what we're putting in.

Rateria, Fascist Dred

Miencraft wrote:Maybe the "CITIZENSHIP" link will have some information.

I'm kiddin

Miencraft wrote:"I don't like paying taxes"

"Well you agreed to pay taxes because you agreed to the social contract when you were born here/moved here"

"No I didn't"

"Why don't you just move somewhere else then"

It's not logically sound because it's based on the premise that, first of all, it's on the individual to remove themselves from a situation where they're the victim of theft (which income taxation 100% is); and, second of all, that it's possible to automatically consent to taxation by existing in a certain place. Neither of these are true. The government, which is stealing from people, is initiating force and therefore violating the NAP. It is not on their victim to end this violation. You cannot consent to something just because you're in a certain place. That's like saying "well she was in my bedroom so that means she consented to sex".

Actually if it is stated before-hand then you did consent. if I pass a "no tress-passing violators will be prosecuted" sign then I am consenting to being prosecuted. if I passed a " those who enter must consent to sex" sign then I am consenting. if I enter a country that has specific laws that I have access to then I am consenting to their rules and regulations.

Miencraft wrote:

Well, if they're not here, they don't want our specific intraregional benefits, now do they?

Precisely what I was saying, If they don't like it here Go Away.

Miencraft wrote:

We have a representative government - we elect representatives to serve on our behalf. Our representative government creates alliances. It's then the job of our government to maintain those alliances, and to ensure that we're getting something good out of it for what we're putting in.

Yes and as a voting citizen I can make my contribution to government. by voting for a person that upholds my beliefs and that is. Alliances are not worth it.

Vote Auxorii !!!!!

Pulceria wrote:if I enter a country that has specific laws that I have access to then I am consenting to their rules and regulations.

What of being born there?

Libertatem Polling Service wrote:Can somebody give me the communication permissions please, Humph, I know you can do it.

You have executive power.

No. You are acting as a private citizen and some citizens have already expressed concerns about your bias. No need to create more government if we don't have to!

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Libiceland

Pulceria wrote:Hey I can do it to :)

For this upcoming election I Pulceria will support Auxorii, as he has certainly proved his worth and ability to lead with his wit and motivation to truly make Libertatem great again. Auxorii has NOT led numerous military operations successfully (which is part of why I like him) because he knows that non intervention is the best foreign policy, and will actively reduced the size of our government here in Libertatem. The opposition says that our military should be increased to keep Libertatem safe, but they neglect to see that we do not need to increase the amount of soldiers in our military because it is near impossible for a successful attack to be made on Libertatem. As a Senator, Auxorii has stayed true to his values and principles by voting in favor of legislation that would protect the citizens and integrity of Libertatem. Auxorii is truly the best candidate for Libertatem and he is a man of his word and he is a man of action, and I promise you all that Auxorii will do his absolute best to stay true to his campaign promises if he is elected to the office of President. Believe me folks, Auxorii will truly make Libertatem great again!

Oh boy

I'm sending out a presidential poll.

Here are the candidates I will include.

Pennavia

Hyderbourg

Shirayuki Mizore

Aradites

I will not include Auxorii considering you must be a citizen to run.

Libertatem Polling Service wrote:I'm sending out a presidential poll.

Here are the candidates I will include.

Pennavia

Hyderbourg

Shirayuki Mizore

Aradites

I will not include Auxorii considering you must be a citizen to run.

I'm still a citizen

Libertatem Polling Service wrote:I'm sending out a presidential poll.

Here are the candidates I will include.

Pennavia

Hyderbourg

Shirayuki Mizore

Aradites

I will not include Auxorii considering you must be a citizen to run.

Auxorii is a citizen

Czekania wrote:I'm kiddin

http://i.giphy.com/6JYKtv6BkBHAA.gif

Auxorii wrote:I'm still a citizen

See #Office-of-the-president channel on Discord.

"In light of recent events, pursuant to FRAUD and our region's Constitution, the Department of Interior is directed strip Auxorii of his citizenship until further notice. His citizenship will be re-instated should the Court find him innocent of any wrong-doing."

As affirmed by the Regional Justice.

Humpheria wrote:See #Office-of-the-president channel on Discord.

"In light of recent events, pursuant to FRAUD and our region's Constitution, the Department of Interior is directed strip Auxorii of his citizenship until further notice. His citizenship will be re-instated should the Court find him innocent of any wrong-doing."

As affirmed by the Regional Justice.

Guilty until proven innocent?

Muh Roads, Auxorii, Libiceland

The United States Of Patriots wrote:Guilty until proven innocent?

Security precaution. Citizenship can be suspended at the discretion of Executive for providing material support to the enemy (leaking classified information). Banning him without due process would violate 'guilty until proven innocent' (which, unfortunately, is not the doctrine of our legal system explicitly). If the Court finds that he is innocent, it will be re-instated. Until that time, because of his actions, his willful disregard for our laws, and clear apathy to the security of our region, we had to take actions to prevent further actions.

Auxorii wrote:I'm still a citizen

Humpheria wrote:See #Office-of-the-president channel on Discord.

"In light of recent events, pursuant to FRAUD and our region's Constitution, the Department of Interior is directed strip Auxorii of his citizenship until further notice. His citizenship will be re-instated should the Court find him innocent of any wrong-doing."

As affirmed by the Regional Justice.

The United States Of Patriots wrote:Guilty until proven innocent?

What a f*cking sh*tty corrupt government

Humpheria wrote:Security precaution. Citizenship can be suspended at the discretion of Executive for providing material support to the enemy (leaking classified information). Banning him without due process would violate 'guilty until proven innocent' (which, unfortunately, is not the doctrine of our legal system explicitly). If the Court finds that he is innocent, it will be re-instated. Until that time, because of his actions, his willful disregard for our laws, and clear apathy to the security of our region, we had to take actions to prevent further actions.

The judge should be deciding if he willfully disregarded the laws, not you. That's what f*cking trial is for you moron

Libiceland wrote:The judge should be deciding if he willfully disregarded the laws, not you. That's what f*cking trial is for you moron

The judge doesn't enforce regional law. I don't decide whether or not he gets ejected or banned, I do decide the status of his Citizenship if he violates FRAUD. The trial will decide his guilt. Until that point, we're taking precautions to protect the region against further damaging actions because of his dislike of certain individuals.

Miencraft, Rateria, Fascist Dred

Humpheria wrote:The judge doesn't enforce regional law. I don't decide whether or not he gets ejected or banned, I do decide the status of his Citizenship if he violates FRAUD. The trial will decide his guilt. Until that point, we're taking precautions to protect the region against further damaging actions because of his dislike of certain individuals.

The trial determines if he violated fraud

Pulceria

Humpheria wrote:Security precaution. Citizenship can be suspended at the discretion of Executive for providing material support to the enemy (leaking classified information). Banning him without due process would violate 'guilty until proven innocent' (which, unfortunately, is not the doctrine of our legal system explicitly). If the Court finds that he is innocent, it will be re-instated. Until that time, because of his actions, his willful disregard for our laws, and clear apathy to the security of our region, we had to take actions to prevent further actions.

But the fraud act says "Citizenship may be revoked only upon being convicted of Military Crimes, Felony Conspiracy, or Felony Voter Fraud as per the Law Code." Has Auxorii been convicted? If so then there is no issue here but other wise this is an actual violation of law as far as I can tell.

Also " Citizenship can be suspended at the discretion of Executive..." where is this power enumerated? I might have missed it while reading our law code.

Auxorii, Libiceland, Pulceria

Libiceland wrote:The trial determines if he violated fraud

This isn't about voter fraud though. FRAUD is an act to prevent voter fraud. Citizenship suspension is allowed under FRAUD, but it mostly deals with voter fraud.

The violation in this case would be regarding the general law code, not any specific law.

Humpheria wrote:The judge doesn't enforce regional law. I don't decide whether or not he gets ejected or banned, I do decide the status of his Citizenship if he violates FRAUD. The trial will decide his guilt. Until that point, we're taking precautions to protect the region against further damaging actions because of his dislike of certain individuals.

he is being charged with Treason Class A, right?

The United States Of Patriots wrote:But the fraud act says "Citizenship may be revoked only upon being convicted of Military Crimes, Felony Conspiracy, or Felony Voter Fraud as per the Law Code." Has Auxorii been convicted? If so then there is no issue here but other wise this is an actual violation of law as far as I can tell.

Also " Citizenship can be suspended at the discretion of Executive..." where is this power enumerated? I might have missed it while reading our law code.

1) This is not revocation. It's suspension of his voting privilege.

2) FRAUD 6:11

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Jadentopian Order

The United States Of Patriots wrote:But the fraud act says "Citizenship may be revoked only upon being convicted of Military Crimes, Felony Conspiracy, or Felony Voter Fraud as per the Law Code." Has Auxorii been convicted? If so then there is no issue here but other wise this is an actual violation of law as far as I can tell.

Also " Citizenship can be suspended at the discretion of Executive..." where is this power enumerated? I might have missed it while reading our law code.

"Citizenship may be temporarily suspended if a nation is suspected of providing material aid to foreign entities that pose a threat to Libertatem"

Revocation =\= Suspension

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

To update everyone, especially those interested in the Reform Party's platform-

I am being charged with treason class A, because I leaked information regarding this region's foreign policy, that this region engages in raids on other regions for having different opinions than that of the current administration.

I plead not guilty. I believe that the true treason is the lies that this administration and my opponent has stated, and I believe that me speaking the truth and telling the citizens what they deserve to know, is far from treason, and is in fact patriotism.

I am being treated as though I am guilty, despite no trial being done as of yet. I am not a security threat in the sense of being a citizen, and I do not know what security threat I pose merely by holding citizenship. I feel as though it is an intimidation tactic.

If my candidacy isn't able to continue, I endorse Hyderbourg for President.

Libiceland, Pulceria

Miencraft wrote:This isn't about voter fraud though. FRAUD is an act to prevent voter fraud. Citizenship suspension is allowed under FRAUD, but it mostly deals with voter fraud.

The violation in this case would be regarding the general law code, not any specific law.

on the grounds of "providing material aid to foreign entities that pose a threat to Libertatem." right?

Miencraft wrote:1) This is not revocation. It's suspension of his voting privilege.

2) FRAUD 6:11

I got it now, I just read up to that point

The United States Of Patriots wrote:on the grounds of "providing material aid to foreign entities that pose a threat to Libertatem." right?

Yes, leaking classified information in a public space easily accessible by any of our enemies.

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Jadentopian Order

The United States Of Patriots wrote:on the grounds of "providing material aid to foreign entities that pose a threat to Libertatem." right?

Correct.

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Citizens of Libertatem,

I come to you today baring a tale of unparalleled injustice regarding the treatment of Senator Auxorii by the government of Libertatem.

Whether or not Senator Auxorii is guilty of treason is irrelevant, what I am asking of today is simple. We must reinstate the citizenship of Auxorii until the date of the trial, only then can a decision regarding his conduct be rendered.

The reason that Auxorii has lost his citizenship is because of clause Section IV Subsection G in the FRAUD Act which states, “Citizenship may be temporarily suspended if a nation is suspected of providing material aid to foreign entities that pose a threat to Libertatem.”

This clause, and thus the usage of it are absolutely absurd.

First let us examine the wording of the clause, it states that if a nation is “suspected” of providing material aid to foreign entities, their citizenship can be temporarily revoked.

This clause does not outline who someone must be suspected of committing crimes by, solely that if somebody is suspected their citizenship is temporarily revoked.

No major entity has come out suspecting Auxorii of “providing material aid to foreign entities that pose a threat to Libertatem” as such a conclusion would be absurd if anyone knew him or the reason he took the action that he took.

Auxorii posted two photos onto a community Discord, that action is wildly different from actively providing information to foreign entities that pose a threat; even the usage of the word “foreign” in the statute is proof that it does not apply to Auxorii as he has not corresponded with anyone outside of the Discord, let alone the region.

in fact, he has even deleted the photos from the Discord and in the duration of time that the photo was on the discord, not a single foreign entity that poses a threat was noted as being online, meaning that he simply could not have violated this clause.

What we have seen is an administration abuse a vague clause and it must be corrected.

As a fellow citizen of Libertatem I demand that the citizenship of Senator Auxorri be reinstated until the trial, I am not asking for him to be dismissed for treason, solely for him to be treated innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around.

If you are a citizen of Libertatem please telegram the Senate and the President as they have the authority to reinstate his citizenship, they are listed below.

Auxorii posted two photos onto a community Discord, that action is wildly different from actively providing information to foreign entities that pose a threat; even the usage of the word “foreign” in the statute is proof that it does not apply to Auxorii as he has not corresponded with anyone outside of the Discord, let alone the region.

in fact, he has even deleted the photos from the Discord and in the duration of time that the photo was on the discord, not a single foreign entity that poses a threat was noted as being online, meaning that he simply could not have violated this clause.

What we have seen is an administration abuse a vague clause and it must be corrected.

As a fellow citizen of Libertatem I demand that the citizenship of Senator Auxorri be reinstated until the trial, I am not asking for him to be dismissed for treason, solely for him to be treated innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around.

With liberty and justice for all,

[nation=short]hyderbourg[/nation]

Fellow Citizen of the Republic

Auxorii, Libiceland

My advice to the left: take it back now y'all

Humpheria, Muh Roads, The United States Of Patriots, Fascist Dred

I like that Trump guy! He has a great trade position!

Miencraft wrote:What of being born there?

I am glad you asked. it makes sense because until you are an adult your parents have legal guardianship over you and make that decision for you. when you become an adult you have the choice to stay or move away.

Pulceria wrote:I am glad you asked. it makes sense because until you are an adult your parents have legal guardianship over you and make that decision for you. when you become an adult you have the choice to stay or move away.

Consider: a United States citizen must pay tax to the United States, no matter where they are. So you can't say "if you don't like paying the taxes just leave" since you still pay taxes, even if you leave.

Also: To renounce United States citizenship, you must pay a fee of $2350. This is the highest renunciation fee in the world.

Miencraft wrote:Consider: a United States citizen must pay tax to the United States, no matter where they are. So you can't say "if you don't like paying the taxes just leave" since you still pay taxes, even if you leave.

Also: To renounce United States citizenship, you must pay a fee of $2350. This is the highest renunciation fee in the world.

I know it is quite unfair. This is a good example of one of the many American laws I disagree with.

Pulceria wrote:I know it is quite unfair. This is a good example of one of the many American laws I disagree with.

But, seriously, you're being stolen from because there's a false assumption made that, because you exist, you have consented to it.

This is not consent. This cannot be consent. There is absolutely no way to give your consent to something that happens just because you exist. Being in an area is not consent. You cannot justify rape by saying "well she was in my bedroom" (because, guess what, those "trespassers will be prosecuted" signs don't have the power - trespassing itself is the crime, so you can't just put up a sign that says "if you enter in here I'm going to have sex with you" because it's not the same thing as saying "hey by the way if you come into this area let me just remind you that that's illegal"). You cannot justify theft by saying "well he exists here". You cannot justify theft by saying "well if you don't like it go away".

It's not on the victim of the theft to leave just because their property rights are being violated. They shouldn't need to go somewhere else to get away from that violation. It's on the government to stop that violation.

Humpheria wrote:I like that Trump guy! He has a great trade position!

His trade positions are the only thing I disagree with.

Auxorii wrote: This region engages in raids on other regions for having different opinions than that of the current administration.

Is that true?

Libiceland

Miencraft wrote:But, seriously, you're being stolen from because there's a false assumption made that, because you exist, you have consented to it.

This is not consent. This cannot be consent. There is absolutely no way to give your consent to something that happens just because you exist. Being in an area is not consent. You cannot justify rape by saying "well she was in my bedroom" (because, guess what, those "trespassers will be prosecuted" signs don't have the power - trespassing itself is the crime, so you can't just put up a sign that says "if you enter in here I'm going to have sex with you" because it's not the same thing as saying "hey by the way if you come into this area let me just remind you that that's illegal"). You cannot justify theft by saying "well he exists here". You cannot justify theft by saying "well if you don't like it go away".

It's not on the victim of the theft to leave just because their property rights are being violated. They shouldn't need to go somewhere else to get away from that violation. It's on the government to stop that violation.

Like I said if you are in a restricted area knowingly. Then you are consenting to the restrictions.

and you are not being forced because you exist, its because you are on their land.

Pulceria wrote:Is that true?

Yes. That's what I leaked and why they're suspending my citizenship and bringing me to court.

Libiceland

In great disgust. I Pulceria will be leaving the filthy region of Libertatem. just as soon as I find another region to join. That is unless it can be proven that such raids as have been suggested as happening, Never will happen again.

And so I ask, if anyone can suggest a decent region for me to relocate to.

And to all you Libertatemites I warn you, your government has gone sour. It upholds evil raids and is willing to execute them behind your backs! that is why I'm leaving. I suggest you do the same.

Libiceland

Pulceria wrote:In great disgust. I Pulceria will be leaving the filthy region of Libertatem. just as soon as I find another region to join. That is unless it can be proven that such raids as have been suggested as happening, Never will happen again.

And so I ask, if anyone can suggest a decent region for me to relocate to.

And to all you Libertatemites I warn you, your government has gone sour. It upholds evil raids and is willing to execute them behind your backs! that is why I'm leaving. I suggest you do the same.

See ya

Pulceria wrote:its because you are on their land.

It's not the government's land.

The United States Of Patriots

Pulceria wrote:In great disgust. I Pulceria will be leaving the filthy region of Libertatem. just as soon as I find another region to join. That is unless it can be proven that such raids as have been suggested as happening, Never will happen again.

And so I ask, if anyone can suggest a decent region for me to relocate to.

And to all you Libertatemites I warn you, your government has gone sour. It upholds evil raids and is willing to execute them behind your backs! that is why I'm leaving. I suggest you do the same.

Conservative League

Pulceria wrote:In great disgust. I Pulceria will be leaving the filthy region of Libertatem. just as soon as I find another region to join. That is unless it can be proven that such raids as have been suggested as happening, Never will happen again.

And so I ask, if anyone can suggest a decent region for me to relocate to.

And to all you Libertatemites I warn you, your government has gone sour. It upholds evil raids and is willing to execute them behind your backs! that is why I'm leaving. I suggest you do the same.

Stay and join the Reform Party

Libiceland

Pulceria wrote:In great disgust. I Pulceria will be leaving the filthy region of Libertatem. just as soon as I find another region to join. That is unless it can be proven that such raids as have been suggested as happening, Never will happen again.

And so I ask, if anyone can suggest a decent region for me to relocate to.

And to all you Libertatemites I warn you, your government has gone sour. It upholds evil raids and is willing to execute them behind your backs! that is why I'm leaving. I suggest you do the same.

commie

Pulceria wrote:Like I said if you are in a restricted area knowingly. Then you are consenting to the restrictions.

and you are not being forced because you exist, its because you are on their land.

Actually, I'd say it's because you use the government's money. Roads, education, emergency services, these are all funded by the government.

The States Of Balloon wrote:... these are all funded by the government.

Which are all funded with taxes, and thus the cycle continues

Pulceria wrote:In great disgust. I Pulceria will be leaving the filthy region of Libertatem. just as soon as I find another region to join. That is unless it can be proven that such raids as have been suggested as happening, Never will happen again.

And so I ask, if anyone can suggest a decent region for me to relocate to.

And to all you Libertatemites I warn you, your government has gone sour. It upholds evil raids and is willing to execute them behind your backs! that is why I'm leaving. I suggest you do the same.

North Korea

Top ten songs to masturbate to

10. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4L-XuOMFEUw

9. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt95ZrjKqtk

8. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8FLHD1NtdX8

7. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3KDinwCfvcg

6. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOoqKHz_D0w

5. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YRlIl6K6S88

4. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kpk2tdsPh0A

3. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5XEy-HzIOyI

2. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=00RcsjoRuQ0

1. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j8kgwPtY0yU

Auxorii wrote:Stay and join the Reform Party

I will keep in touch.

Miencraft wrote:It's not the government's land.

In my view it is, in a way. Think of it as a gated community.

Pulceria wrote:In my view it is, in a way. Think of it as a gated community.

Well, that's just not right, because the government isn't the one that allows the citizens to live there. The citizens are the ones that allow the government to watch over them.

Sure, the government does decide who gets to be a citizen, but governments exist to serve people, not the other way around. The government doesn't automatically own all the land of a country - especially considering that just leads down the slope of, if the government owns the land, they can take private real estate without any repercussions, because it's the government's land.

Miencraft wrote:Well, that's just not right, because the government isn't the one that allows the citizens to live there. The citizens are the ones that allow the government to watch over them.

Sure, the government does decide who gets to be a citizen, but governments exist to serve people, not the other way around. The government doesn't automatically own all the land of a country - especially considering that just leads down the slope of, if the government owns the land, they can take private real estate without any repercussions, because it's the government's land.

The government needs resources to help citizens. The people give the government the funding for protection and aid, and the government provides those things.

The States Of Balloon wrote:The government needs resources to help citizens. The people give the government the funding for protection and aid, and the government provides those things.

Does it though? We don't need the government to protect us - that's what guns are for, and they're more effective than the government a lot of the time. We don't need the government to build the roads. We don't need the government to give handouts to the poor. The government's only real use - in the United States - is making sure the states play nice, and dealing with foreign powers.

Miencraft wrote:Does it though? We don't need the government to protect us - that's what guns are for, and they're more effective than the government a lot of the time. We don't need the government to build the roads. We don't need the government to give handouts to the poor. The government's only real use - in the United States - is making sure the states play nice, and dealing with foreign powers.

How tf is any of that against each other?

Czekania wrote:How tf is any of that against each other?

What?

Special Prosecutor VenomRingo and I have been deliberating in depth for a very long time and thinking about what was truly a just treatment in regard to Senator Auxorii. What we have concluded is a one-month banjection with an unrestricted appeal. Although at first, it seemed as though the problem was with the conduct of Auxorii, we ended up finding a much larger problem with the way the regional government was handling classification and the justice system. The classification for the operation was only sent to commanding officers, the shared information was in code, and the information was shared nine days after the mentioned operation. It was very hard for us to know how this would impact the sentencing due to the ambiguity brought on by these complications. The one thing we concluded was the fact that we needed reform. Although there was some malicious intent in Auxorii’s decision for which reason we came to the conclusion that he would receive the aforementioned punishment, this case is not about Auxorii, it is about Libertatem and the steps we can take to fix it; this is what the three of us will be working on in the future.

Libiceland, Pulceria

Assembled with Dot's Region Saver.
Written by Refuge Isle.