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Liberosia wrote:The UCR affair as it stands is one if our greatest diplomatic successes in history.

Humph, what is your position regarding RMB rules and/or customs? We've had some pretty extreme/indecent conversations. What would be your policy on those?

I believe that we cannot suppress members of this region, but they should not be exempt from consequences.

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Humpheria wrote:I believe that we cannot suppress members of this region, but they should not be exempt from consequences.

Would you please specify the consequences?

Liberosia wrote:Would you please specify the consequences?

If someone reports you to me as offensive, the Board votes on your banjection as a troll. If you break site rules, I call the mods.

Humpheria wrote:If someone reports you to me as offensive, the Board votes on your banjection as a troll. If you break site rules, I call the mods.

All right, so does "offensive" include lewd conduct?

Liberosia wrote:All right, so does "offensive" include lewd conduct?

To a point. If it gets too explicit, it is against site rules.

Humpheria wrote:You obviously don't understand, so I'll do all three.

Militarily- Better training, more practice, extensively thought-out tactics

Internationally- We are going to look at gaining love with our allies, and following that, gaining more allies

Domestically- We have already made strides in the Internal Department, and we aren't done yet

I indeed believe the military side might be the most difficult.

Humpy, will you pass legislation regarding the "Humpy After Dark"?

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Humpy, will you pass legislation regarding the "Humpy After Dark"?

No.

How are you going to battle NLP's very strong campaigning?

Fun fact: the Constitution indirectly permits the President power to eject anyone, including annoying people.

Pevvania wrote:Fun fact: the Constitution indirectly permits the President power to eject anyone, including annoying people.

Hmm, that's interesting

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Humpheria wrote:Domestically- We have already made strides in the Internal Department, and we aren't done yet

Semi-related: I'm still looking for people to bury bodies for me and whatnot, so if anyone's interested there's a little link in the IA factbook.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Hmm, that's interesting

Yes. Interesting.

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Anything by Rothbard.

Alternatively, you may want to look into David Friedman and Samuel Konkin's works for a more utilitarian outline.

Meh. I'll stick to my Hayek, Milton, and Nozick thank you. *raspberry's anarchists*

Zeouria wrote:Sorry for being gone for so long, but I'm back.

Currently finishing up a writing entitled "A few Arguments Against Anarchism", but it'll probably be another week before it's released.

Anywho, besides "Economics in one lesson" what are some good books to obtaine a basic understanding of Anarcho-Capitalism (or just the free-market economy)?

One word: Rothbard. He's literally the intellectual inventor of anarcho-capitalism. I'd recommend 3 books:

-For a New Liberty: The Libertarian Manifesto

-The Ethics of Liberty

-Man, Economy and State

I've only read Ethics, but all three are essential reading for those seeking to gain a complete understanding of anarcho-capitalism.

Ethics alone makes my brain hurt.

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Republic Of Minerva wrote:Anything by Rothbard.

Alternatively, you may want to look into David Friedman and Samuel Konkin's works for a more utilitarian outline.

Meh. I'll stick to my Hayek, Milton, and Nozick thank you. *raspberry's anarchists*

Rothbard was an incredible thinker. His economic mind was nothing short of genius. It's his philosophical beliefs that put a lot of people off. Henry Hazlitt once said something similar to this. There's a lot that I disagree with him on. He may have had some racist leanings, and had a tendency to write scathing attacks about other figures in the libertarian movement, such as Milton Friedman and Ronald Reagan, which really did no good for the cause. But nevertheless, everyone should read his works.

Zeouria wrote:Thank you.

I'm going to be purchasing some of Bakunin's works, and'll pick up some of those at the same time.

I prefer Proudhon, but he had some interesting ideas. I'd buy physical copies of those books, but you can still read them for free online at Mises.org.

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So I just read about red & black cafe. I want to open yellow & black cafe, who's in?

My business premise; we ARE NOT vegan. Its time to crush red & black under the weight of the free market xD

So, under the law if no one announces candidacy for the Board, the incumbents stay. So, at least one more person needs to step up and the sitting members need to make a decision.

Dammit, just missed the top ten for lowest tax burden! Congratulations to Miencraft and Lack.

Board Elections

Seat 1: Godisdead

Seat 2: Vacant

Seat 3: Right-Winged Nation

Seat 4: Hallo Island

Seat 5: Muh Roads

Zeouria wrote:Why Proudhon? I respect him as a philosopher, for setting the stage of Anarchism, but I disagree with him on economics on a lot of places. His economic theories are pretty irrelevant to modern production capabilities.

Peter Kropotkin is above all my favorite. Not just as a philosopher, not just as an economist, but as an author.

Well, when it comes to collectivist ideologies, I find mutualism quite fascinating.

Muh Roads wrote:My business premise; we ARE NOT vegan. Its time to crush red & black under the weight of the free market xD

Everybody loves Muh Roads

[quote=pevvania;7424223]Dammit, just missed the top ten for lowest tax burden! Congratulations to Miencraft and Lack.

I am 16th I guess my Atheism, drug and Tobacco taxes are high since 8 don't have an income tax and their has been no issue on corporate taxes.

Gay Equality has been ravaged by Nazis!

Who will take seat number 2?

Pevvania wrote:Dammit, just missed the top ten for lowest tax burden! Congratulations to Miencraft and Lack.

I hate Gabriel Possenti so much. So many things I could have #1 in but don't anymore.

Pevvania wrote:Gay Equality has been ravaged by Nazis!

Should REATO get involved? It would certainly help us gain allies.

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Right-Winged Nation wrote:Who will take seat number 2?

I shall run for Seat Two.

My revised proposed cabinet:

VP- Miencraft

IA- The New United States

FA- Baphometus

MA- Pevvania

AG- Amarican Empire

Interesting.

Well, I guess I'll just have to run for Chairman of the Board, then.

Humpheria wrote:My revised proposed cabinet:

VP- Miencraft

IA- The New United States

FA- Baphometus

MA- Pevvania

AG- Amarican Empire

TNUS? Good choice.

Liberation of [region=Gay Equality] is complete!

Miencraft wrote:TNUS? Good choice.

I thought so.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Interesting.

Well, I guess I'll just have to run for Chairman of the Board, then.

Every Board member is running for Chairman. All are eligible, you don't have to announce your candidacy.

The difference is that I'm serious about it.

Muh roads is ambitious so we might see a stand off between Ci and muh roads for chairmanship.

I can work with either.

So, Since we have no competition for the Board, do you guys want to get started with the Presidential elections?

Is everyone on the board in a separate party?

Pevvania wrote:Everybody loves Muh Roads

I think this stands true in most cases :p

Muh Roads wrote:Is everyone on the board in a separate party?

Nope.

Seat 1- I

Seat 2- ACOP

Seat 3- RLP

Seat 4- CHUM

Seat 5- RLP

Muh Roads wrote:I think this stands true in most cases :p

You have no idea.

I think godisdead is a member of the RLP.

Unless he switched, I don't know.

That's what I'm going with, if he says otherwise we'll rearrange the caucuses.

Whoever is Chairman next term can do all of that. I ain't got time for it.

We're handling it lol

ACOP will caucus with the majority.

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Zeouria wrote:I'm glad UCR and Libertatem forces were able to work together in liberating the region. We should all thank the mods for deleting Oscar Wilde for his homophobic insults on the WFE and motto, also.

Indeed. I was impressed when I found out about the successful joint defense operation, and I'm pleased that both regions mobilized so quickly.

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Zeouria wrote:Thanks to Funkytopia and his quike action. And Atlantica also helped.

Indeed. Those who participated in the operation should be commended for their heroism, and for once I would like to extend my thanks to the site moderators as well. This was not only a military defeat for the fascists, but a moral defeat as well.

Zeouria wrote:Thanks to Funkytopia and his quike action. And Atlantica also helped.

Yes, there were some minor mistakes in the tactics, but the mission was a success and I am looking into a possible battle decoration for Funkytopia.

Yes, my new flag is similar to one of Pev's campaign flags. And yes, I stole it. Deal with it.

What is everyone's opinion on on Ferguson?

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Humpheria wrote:What is everyone's opinion on on Ferguson?

I think it's just a lot of confused people that are really only still rioting because they know that they're immune to the law because they're black and the police are generally white.

Miencraft wrote:I think it's just a lot of confused people that are really only still rioting because they know that they're immune to the law because they're black and the police are generally white.

I agree.

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Humpheria wrote:Yes, there were some minor mistakes in the tactics, but the mission was a success and I am looking into a possible battle decoration for Funkytopia.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Indeed. Those who participated in the operation should be commended for their heroism, and for once I would like to extend my thanks to the site moderators as well. This was not only a military defeat for the fascists, but a moral defeat as well.

Woot woot!!!

Humpheria wrote:What is everyone's opinion on on Ferguson?

This issue kind of hits close to home, considering, well, it hits close to home. I consider myself a St. Louisan.

Zeouria wrote:Very irrational on the side of the police. It's dissapointing that a march that began for peace and morning has turned into a bunch of rioting and raiding, that just gives the police a justification for being there.

For a man to steal cigars and be shot, is just wrong. There's reports that he had his hands raised when he was shot and others saying he attacked the police officer, when the police officer was driving. But, who would do that? Especially someone who was going to college two days from there.

This.

Miencraft wrote:I think it's just a lot of confused people that are really only still rioting because they know that they're immune to the law because they're black and the police are generally white.

This especially.

This conflict has gotten way out of hand as a result of the publicity it has been given. No one benefits from the rioting except for those with a financial public stake in this. I blame the local media for fueling the fire; they have crossed a number of ethical boundaries in order to get a better story. One local news station covering the incident showed precisely where the policeman's house and neighborhood were, address and everything! This is worse than the time that same station sent undercover reporters to public schools, unidentified, to "test school security" - that fiasco resulted in a lockdown in which children feared for their lives! The local media, and to some extent the media outside the local sphere, has gone too far this time.

I propose that if no challengers step up for the Board by tomorrow morning, we start Presidential Elections tomorrow.

Humpheria wrote:I propose that if no challengers step up for the Board by tomorrow morning, we start Presidential Elections tomorrow.

Sounds reasonable to me.

Great job to everybody involved in the GE mission, props especially to Funkytopia and the Vice President for reacting so quickly.

Don't forget our friends in UCR. They deserve props for getting their military together to help despite having just reorganized it.

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Zeouria wrote:That's only a few people who are taking advantage of the chaotic situation. The majority are peace protestors.

And I have no problem with the peaceful protesters.

My problem is with the few who think that their being black somehow grants them immunity to the law when the law is being enforced by whites. These few contaminate the entire purpose of the protest and make everyone involved look bad.

If they want to protest, they can go ahead and protest. I don't care (and nobody else should, honestly, except the people they're protesting against). If they start getting violent, then I start to care because that's kind of illegal and if they're not going to take responsibility for violating the law, and instead go "Oh, this white cop shot this black kid for no reason", then they get no sympathy from me.

Miencraft wrote:And I have no problem with the peaceful protesters.

My problem is with the few who think that their being black somehow grants them immunity to the law when the law is being enforced by whites. These few contaminate the entire purpose of the protest and make everyone involved look bad.

If they want to protest, they can go ahead and protest. I don't care (and nobody else should, honestly, except the people they're protesting against). If they start getting violent, then I start to care because that's kind of illegal and if they're not going to take responsibility for violating the law, and instead go "Oh, this white cop shot this black kid for no reason", then they get no sympathy from me.

Indeed. Some rioters aren't playing the race card, though; it's enough that these allegations of police brutality in general are intended to dissuade police from acting against them. Either way, it's a severe problem, and I have no sympathy for those who resort to violence, vandalism, and violations of the rights of their fellow man.

I am more angry about Eric Holder's involvement. The AG, who is the top law enforcement officer, is sent to investigate law enforcement officers and encourage criminals to bastardize the Justice System and demonize the police. Shameful.

Miencraft wrote:I think it's just a lot of confused people that are really only still rioting because they know that they're immune to the law because they're black and the police are generally white.

I think this is a racist generalization.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I think this is a racist generalization.

Ugh.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I think this is a racist generalization.

It is. Unfortunately, it seems to work both ways; many of the rioters are sort of...exploiting that.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I think this is a racist generalization.

It's true, African Americans generally have more problems with whites the Mexicans or asians. Right now people are complaining that the police are not diverse. Why does it matter the police are a public force meant to serve you why does it matter if they are white?

The Amarican Empire wrote:It's true, African Americans generally have more problems with whites the Mexicans or asians. Right now people are complaining that the police are not diverse. Why does it matter the police are a public force meant to serve you why does it matter if they are white?

They have had more problems in the past. Is that an excuse for rioting, looting, and instilling violence? The police are not without fault, but the criminals of Ferguson do not care about the kid that got shot. They are using an opportunity to break the law and cause violence through looting and such. Anyone that speaks against them is a racist, any cop that tries to stop them is an oppressive monster that is committing a hate crime. They are sworn to protect the law and those who are on top demonize and reprimand them.

Humpheria wrote:They have had more problems in the past. Is that an excuse for rioting, looting, and instilling violence? The police are not without fault, but the criminals of Ferguson do not care about the kid that got shot. They are using an opportunity to break the law and cause violence through looting and such. Anyone that speaks against them is a racist, any cop that tries to stop them is an oppressive monster that is committing a hate crime. They are sworn to protect the law and those who are on top demonize and reprimand them.

Indeed. These riots in Ferguson are, unfortunately, multi-faceted. No one's exactly sure what it's all about, but each person will probably give you a different clue.

Greetings friends! Have people of any nation claimed Finland and Sweden yet?

Keisarii wrote:Greetings friends! Have people of any nation claimed Finland and Sweden yet?

I haven't even come close. They're too badass, especially Sweden.

well, if not, may we?

Be wary. I think they may still have manly vikings in the Libertatemverse.

We are descendants of Vikings. How would we fear our own kind? Make it so!

Cops are racist by definition, and if you disagree your a racist. Also, your a racist.

If you point out that I should have used you're in place of your, you're a racist aswell.

Keisarii wrote:Greetings friends! Have people of any nation claimed Finland and Sweden yet?

are you Nordic guy?

Keisarii wrote:Greetings friends! Have people of any nation claimed Finland and Sweden yet?

I have

Hi all. Sorry for the recent inactivity, I have been at band camp.

Alright, no one has stepped up. Pev or Liberosia, can you please start the poll?

Humpheria (Independent) versus Northern Prussia (Libertarian Imperialist Party)

Never though Id see that poll without TTA...and since he left, we have been less active.

Hopefully, he'll be back soon.

Ankha wrote:Never though Id see that poll without TTA...and since he left, we have been less active.

The board has been moving.

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