Post Archive
Region: Libertatem
I'm trembling.
Call the mobs? What?
Don't kill me man.
I just got the ok to open embassies with Gay Equality.
Remember. You can privately do things. But a private citizen does not speak officially for the region. You have to go through the State Department. CI and Pev decides which embassies we have.
Also, for clarification, the Board does not have the Constitutional power to accept or deny embassies. That's the State and President's job.
I have permissions from CI and I already know that Pevvania supports this. I know the rules, Humpheria.
But, specifically, I do not like the idea of making an embassy with a region just because of something. Like the Gay Equality region, the only thing they do is gay. For example, their delegate is a self-proclaimed communist and they have a military called the "Red Empire Army". Really? I implore the executives to reconsider an embassy.
I'm just saying that you can't declare we have an embassy without CI or Pev publicly approving it. Your knowledge is irrelevant if you do not adhere, Hallo Island.
They are a Neutral, anti fascist region. The aren't all communist. I did not declare that we had an embassy. I was just making Pev and the people whom actually are relevant to this operation aware.
Why did you seek an embassy with them?
Aren't we all relevant to an operation of the State that will affect the region? Or just you and Pev?
We need more support for our LGBT citizens here. This will not be much of a change. It isn't like they will come over and start throwing rainbows everywhere whilst riding majestic unicorns.
No one here should question Pevvania. Is this clear?
Doesn't matter you don't have the authority to make that choice.
I didn't make that choice, the manager of state and the damned president did. Do they have the authority?
All that I'm saying is that you went to that region because they support gay rights. I do too, but I don't think we should base our government decisions off of something like that. Also, for the record, I may be wrong but I think that you are the only LGBTTQQIIAA here.
*Cough Freedom of speech Cough*
TTA, My ex, Terentuem, probably others.
I don't know why you're cursing. Can't we discuss regional affairs together without spouting off at each other?
TTA is, Who is that?, Terentuem isn't here anymore, probably isn't solid.
Dintinia. He probably cted...
Two isn't a major demographic
Statistically 1 out of ten people are gay. That gives us about 12 people, give or take.
I doubt there are 12 gay people here. Anyway, let's stop dodging the subject, back to the embassy question.
While that may be true in an large, diverse population, although I truly doubt it, what we have in this region is a very concentrated population whose diversity I seriously question.
Does anyone wan't to come out right now right here?
Go ahead Ipian we wont judge.
Furthermore, the vast majority of us here are in support of the natural rights of individuals. Applying the term "gay rights" only limits our perspectives
That isn't really how that works, Ipian.
no
Prove it
I do not support gay equality
wat
Grrrrrr
I support gay ignorance
I support not giving a damn about how other people go about their lives.
All people should be equal.
Look everybody, humpy isn't in the majority
If you really want to get into it, I can go on for hours about how that's completely impossible.
Of course, they should all be treated as people, but for all intents and purposes they're not all equal, because nature.
All people should be treated equally.
That's better.
I do not support a government or society trying to force obviously different people into "equality". I support a society being ignorant to the differences of other that are not themselves. I would much rather be ignorant to Hallo's differences and look at him like anyone else, than try to cram him into a category.
This works too.
how about we cram him into the prep category.
Look everybody, humpy is real clever like
How about we cram you in a trash can, ya nerd
Grrrr
*clicks tongue*
Ipian is actually only gay for me.
Or naw
Grrrr
But, anyway. I express my concern with accepting embassy requests from Gay Equality to the President.
Also, I would like to bring up the Libertatem-FFS Cooperation Treaty, which has already been ratified by FFS, to everyone's minds. I am not a representative, so I cannot bring it to a vote. Can I get a non-government official to motion and second?
You're behaving like children.
For one, I'm not sure why a debate on homosexuality started, considering most of us here don't really care about others' personal lives and are full proponents of civil freedoms. And for another, I can't believe members of my department are being accused of doing, well, their jobs; they by all means have the capacity to represent Libertatem abroad, and we all know that Pevvania will make the final decisions anyway.
Yes, this is important; we've neglected this for too long.
Furthermore, we need a renewal of concordance in REATO; the Second REGAN Treaty, currently at a vote in half of the signatory regions, awaits our legislature's approval and President's signature as well.
*REAGAN Treaty
I can't believe I misspelled that
Mine has waited longer. You have to wait your turn. neener neener
Everyone's gay for you...
Anyways. How do I make a Radical Centrist, Totalitarian, Orwellian Party sound attractive?
Lie.
And for the record I am the B in LGBT
TTA go back to Democratic Socialism.
It's pretty simple, if you want equal rights for gays, you treat them like normal couples. Marriage should be allowed between those of the opposite sex and should be recognized, no form of any government should be able to tell you how to live your personal life, that includes national, state, and local.
......
Liberal Socialist. Gosh.... But this political belief brings more unity to a region. Unity brings strength.
You sound like a Fascist i used to talk to.
Orwellian politics FTW!
You make me want to go full on McCarthyist. Unfortunately my libertarianism holds me in restraint.
Can one of you Reps motion and second the vote?
Yeah. Due to an emotionally disturbing experience. I ended up going from Left-Libertarian to Radical Centrist Totalitarian.
I made this cute little party in my region that describes my views perfectly.
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_time_alliance/detail=factbook/id=262206
1984 maybe?
Yesh. That's where I got my new ideology from.
Orwellian Politics.
Thought crimes, anyone who seems strange? What a load of tripe.
Indeed. I still have a part of me wishing it wasn't so. However to keep the state unified and organized some liberties must be given up.
I got approved for Citizenship, so I was told I'm in the House of Representatives. If it's ok, I would like to motion to bring the Treaty Humpy is talking about to a vote.
Sween would like to request foundation of an embassy in Pevvania.
Juche Union is cutting off ties for inter-regional diplomatic reasons concerning other left regions. Sween would like to create embassies in Non-hostile regions with different politics from our own.
POSTAL INFORMATION
-Address: Sweenian diplomatic offices, 287 Emerald st, Oured Osea.
-Message Sent Via: Direct orders from Sweenian Hall of Diplomacy, 9 December Square, Pyongjing, Beijyang.
So a nation is trying to start an embassy with another nation? Unheard of.
THANK JESUS! Will someone second it?
Sorry I have been active the past 2 days everyone. I have had a literal ton of projects and paper to wrap up and I'm still not done. I'v also just been busy in general. I'm taking a break for a little bit though to converse.
I thought we were fighting the totalitarians not becoming them? All authority should be questioned.
I mostly agree. I don't like when the government wants everyone to be treated the same, even though it is the right thing to do. People should be aloud to think the way they want, ignorant or rational. They are different, I agree. I get upset when say, a mentally retarded person walks by and nobody looks at them or says anything while they are around in fear of offending them or feeling bad or something. They are obviously different, there is no use in treating them like everyone else. Are they given the same tests in school? No. I wish I had their classes sometimes, all they do at my school from what I can tell is read, color, and dust the tops of lockers while everyone else is in class. It's so easy, and they get to graduate too! How is that fair?
Is this based on the ideals of crappy allegorical author George Orwell?
Does this conform with the teachings of the LDS?
I agree, that's a bit stange
No it isn't.
Look in the Factbook&Information forum
Let me ask you. Have my politics ever fallen in line? I'm bisexual after all.....
Maybe I should fix that.
Can I second it, my Board term technically hasn't started yet.
If I can, I second the notion to bring the FFS Treaty to vote.
Seconded!
TWO SECONDS!!! Either Pev or Liberosia now needs to start a poll. The People hath spoken!
I FULLY SUPPORT the treaty between Libertatem and the Federation Of Free States!
Changed my flag.
Good work to Hallo for securing an embassy between Gay Equality and Libertatem!
This is something I've been wanting to do for months in order to diversify our foreign relations. We've got embassies with regions representing our Catholic and pro-life nations here, so I think it's fair that we have an embassy for our small but growing LGBT population.
And I'll leave it at that.
I read your concerns. I always read the RMB.
Thank you, sir.
On the authorization of President Pevvania, I have sent an official diplomat to our new friends.
Where may I read this treaty?
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=humpheria/detail=factbook/id=259382
Essentially, it creates a diplomatic and military alliance with FFS.
Would it be possible to have me as the diplomat for Gay Equality?
You can have a diplomat, but Communist Victoria asked me to be the diplomat, and Pev approved me. You can send a puppet there, but I'm the word of the region there.
Well you straight up said you didn't want to have our regions tied, so I don't really understand why you would want to be the diplomat.
I've published a new factbook - "The Pev Administration". It's quite interesting if you have a bad medium-term memory.
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=pevvania/detail=factbook/id=263074
Anyone else remember when I dismissed ISA, and then all the Board Members who supported the new constitution were afraid they'd get fired too? Good times.
I didn't support the embassy because they were solely about gay equality. But now they are expanding and becoming a growing region. I can dig that.
Grrrrrr
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