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The State Of Deseret wrote:...well...okay that's not completely.

You know what hush your mouth. I refuse to go to that website you named as I'm not desperate to see a human girl do stuff. I can get that myself.

A non-existent character? Not so much.

You can get that yourself? Not anyone from those sites....you have too settle for less.

Jordsindia wrote:You can get that yourself? Not anyone from those sites....you have too settle for less.

Not really. We don't know the personality of those people. That's why you always get more in real life.

But like I said. A non-existent character you'll never get in real life.

The State Of Deseret wrote:Not really. We don't know the personality of those people. That's why you always get more in real life.

But like I said. A non-existent character you'll never get in real life.

But you are a real person. It is not. And the fact you have to visualize...an interaction...with a carto....ya know this is freaking me out.

Jordsindia wrote:But you are a real person. It is not. And the fact you have to visualize...an interaction...with a carto....ya know this is freaking me out.

1. Completely true. i am real shes not.

2. Blame my dreams. I ahve had 3 interesting dreams involving her. That's all I'm saying.

3. Hey you asked..

Jordsindia wrote:How can one be attracted to cartoons that are not even human? HOW???

http://www.isidewith.com/results/570805239

Jordsindia wrote:How can one be attracted to cartoons that are not even human? HOW???

Because he is a creep. Thats why his nickname is "Chester the Pony Molester" and he is considered to be the devil to the Holy Church of Roads.

The Neo-Confederate States Of America wrote:Because he is a creep. Thats why his nickname is "Chester the Pony Molester" and he is considered to be the devil to the Holy Church of Roads.

I'm the devil to the church of Libertarianism?

Beat that Stalin!

And believe it or not. I don't molest animals.

West crush the infidels who don't follow roads. Jk the holy church of roads is a almpst pacifist religion.

I don't know what the Lord thy roads says about non belivers. Let us pray to the Lord and hope he responds to our question.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:http://www.isidewith.com/results/570805239

You: No, "workfare" is a form of slave labor

Explain.

Muh Roads wrote:Those who don't obey Muh Roads doctrine get the hose.

Today I discovered that I had noble blood from my great great irish grandmother.

So I've decided to become a royalist.

Long live the king !

Should have said irish great great grandmother, even if my grandmother was also great.

Pevvania wrote:You: No, "workfare" is a form of slave labor

Explain.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/dr-simon-duffy/workfare-is-modernised-slavery_b_2773051.html

Republic Of Minerva wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/dr-simon-duffy/workfare-is-modernised-slavery_b_2773051.html

It makes a compelling argument. What would be your solution to welfare, then?

Pevvania wrote:It makes a compelling argument. What would be your solution to welfare, then?

Guaranteed income, bottom up. Much cheaper alternative than foodstamps and etc. Trust people to spend their own money.

http://www.cato-unbound.org/2014/08/04/matt-zwolinski/pragmatic-libertarian-case-basic-income-guarantee

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Guaranteed income, bottom up. Much cheaper alternative than foodstamps and etc. Trust people to spend their own money.

http://www.cato-unbound.org/2014/08/04/matt-zwolinski/pragmatic-libertarian-case-basic-income-guarantee

The guaranteed income - as in, give a fixed amount of money to every American a year - is an atrocious idea that would cost needless trillions to people who don't need it. But the negative income tax is something that would cost much less and do a better job at relieving poverty, while it'd be targeted only at those under the poverty line.

Pevvania wrote:The guaranteed income - as in, give a fixed amount of money to every American a year - is an atrocious idea that would cost needless trillions to people who don't need it. But the negative income tax is something that would cost much less and do a better job at relieving poverty, while it'd be targeted only at those under the poverty line.

Nah, I don't believe so.

http://reason.com/archives/2013/11/26/scrap-the-welfare-state-give-people-free

I might ask Ark or someone to see if we could calculate how much money it would take exactly (on average) with a flat tax and then a Fairtax. But that's math for later.

The biggest argument against it is obviously would the artificiality of the money affect the cost of living for those who are given it...so there would probably have to be some economic conditions for it. Obviously if you already are making money and can get by, you don't deserve it, and I'd see it structured more a-priority.

Mormons Beat Democrats: I do support a Kind of Give and Take United Order Welfare program myself.

http://www.philanthropyroundtable.org/topic/excellence_in_philanthropy/a_welfare_system_that_works

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865564678/LDS-welfare-system-is-a-model-that-works.html?pg=all

The State Of Deseret wrote:Mormons Beat Democrats: I do support a Kind of Give and Take United Order Welfare program myself.

http://www.philanthropyroundtable.org/topic/excellence_in_philanthropy/a_welfare_system_that_works

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865564678/LDS-welfare-system-is-a-model-that-works.html?pg=all

Little Explanation.

Have a Group of Voluntary people that give stuff for welfare; Private Property is deeded to government which is then deeded back to the original owner.

Now to break off from United Order, People should receive small safety nets if they are not doing wll, but those who receieve these nets and are out of work should go to a committee which finds them a job and an employer that will take the person voluntarily.

My apologies *Must go to a committee.

That way those receiving Welfare are being permanently helped as well by being found a job. So hopefully in a year they won't be on Welfare again.

Of course there should be an education fund; however said education fund should not go into schools and teacher, but into people who sign up to receive help to go to Private colleges.

Will these "committees" be voluntary, private committees or government ones? If a government one, will they be local or national?

Order of preference private>local>national

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Will these "committees" be voluntary, private committees or government ones? If a government one, will they be local or national?

Order of preference private>local>national

Local Government w/ volunteers.

The best way to find a citizen a job would of course be locally.

The State Of Deseret wrote:Local Government w/ volunteers.

The best way to find a citizen a job would of course be locally.

Hmm, I am not opposed to that.

True. People generally don't like moving far for a job. I am surprised TTA, this is actually a non-insane policy.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Hmm, I am not opposed to that.

True. People generally don't like moving far for a job. I am surprised TTA, this is actually a non-insane policy.

Why thank you. It's taken me at least a month to develop the idea.

The State Of Deseret wrote:Why thank you. It's taken me at least a month to develop the idea.

Started out as a Safety net which then I thought would need extra points to eradicate future problems.

Thus the Committee.

It's somewhat of a communistic idea (local committees and all that) but welfare is also inherently leftist so meh. The problem is incentivizing local governments to do this.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:It's somewhat of a communistic idea (local committees and all that) but welfare is also inherently leftist so meh. The problem is incentivizing local governments to do this.

Hmm I'll have to think about that.

My original idea was Federal Government however they'd split it off into local chapters so instead of it's head being in D.C it would be seperate chapters controlled by the Feds.

So the Feds would run it, but it would be local only. But it sounded a bit...too bureaucratic.

Happy Veterans Day.

Oh yeah.

Happy Rememberance Day to all you Brits and Veterans Day to all you Muricans

And...

Happy Veterans Day to those serving in the United States Army. I'm happy of the service you do to protect our freedom.

Humpheria wrote:Happy Veterans Day.

https://imgflip.com/i/e1h7q

Oh and I guess for Nationstates and for this region.

Thanks to everyone in the Libertatem Military for...defending the freedom of our region and other regions.

The State Of Deseret wrote:Oh and I guess for Nationstates and for this region.

Thanks to everyone in the Libertatem Military for...defending the freedom of our region and other regions.

What a pleasant surprise. Thank you.

Pevvania wrote:What a pleasant surprise. Thank you.

I dislike the system, but it's not the fault of those who serve it. They signed up to defend freedom.

Post self-deleted by Galacticorp.

Galacticorp wrote:looking at their RMB, Das Kommune seems very childish. they squabble over anything.

Oh my God. Really? Using the polls for that?

Galacticorp wrote:looking at their RMB, Das Kommune seems very childish. they squabble over anything.

And this surprises you? Even V Ming admitted that that region is comprised of the youngest age group on NationStates. They're very immature, and for all their meaningless chest-beating rhetoric they can barely organise the proper defense of their own region.

Revolutionary Communist Party(RCP) is Das Kommune's best party. I.E the only democratic Party.

Humpheria wrote:Oh my God. Really? Using the polls for that?

I wanna vote no frankly.

The State Of Deseret wrote:Revolutionary Communist Party(RCP) is Das Kommune's best party. I.E the only democratic Party.

Good to know.

Anyways. Pev/Humph how do y'all feel about the Time Welfare Plan.

No ^ (I need to start screening your mail)

The State Of Deseret wrote:Anyways. Pev/Humph how do y'all feel about the Time Welfare Plan.

Not sure.

Pevvania wrote:Not sure.

Oh. You did see it right?

The State Of Deseret wrote:Oh. You did see it right?

No.

Pevvania wrote:No.

The State Of Deseret wrote:Little Explanation.

Have a Group of Voluntary people that give stuff for welfare; Private Property is deeded to government which is then deeded back to the original owner.

Now to break off from United Order, People should receive small safety nets if they are not doing wll, but those who receieve these nets and are out of work should go to a committee which finds them a job and an employer that will take the person voluntarily.

The State Of Deseret wrote:My apologies *Must go to a committee.

That way those receiving Welfare are being permanently helped as well by being found a job. So hopefully in a year they won't be on Welfare again.

Of course there should be an education fund; however said education fund should not go into schools and teacher, but into people who sign up to receive help to go to Private colleges.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Will these "committees" be voluntary, private committees or government ones? If a government one, will they be local or national?

Order of preference private>local>national

The State Of Deseret wrote:Local Government w/ volunteers.

The best way to find a citizen a job would of course be locally.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:It's somewhat of a communistic idea (local committees and all that) but welfare is also inherently leftist so meh. The problem is incentivizing local governments to do this.

The State Of Deseret wrote:Hmm I'll have to think about that.

My original idea was Federal Government however they'd split it off into local chapters so instead of it's head being in D.C it would be seperate chapters controlled by the Feds.

So the Feds would run it, but it would be local only. But it sounded a bit...too bureaucratic.

The State Of Deseret wrote:Oh. You did see it right?

Pevvania wrote:No.

Screening Pevvs mail since day 1

The State Of Deseret wrote:

It's not the best thing in the world, but it's not your worst idea.

Humpheria wrote:It's not the best thing in the world, but it's not your worst idea.

What was the worst?

The State Of Deseret wrote:What was the worst?

Ponyism

Humpheria wrote:Ponyism

To be fair I didn't invent it.

I revised it. That's why there's classical and Revised version.

The original was kill all humans.

I revised it to allow three kinds.

- Hostile ones: Extermination

- Neutral Ones: Slave/Pets

- Ponyists: Pets/Trans-Specie thingee

I don't want credit for the first version...

TTA, this is interesting:

http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines/petition-for-the-excommunication-of-senator-harry-reid

Harry Reid might get excommunicated.

The Church from what I know has no real reason to..

But please do...

Actually. They do have a reason..

He is politically going against church doctrine...Joy.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/27/Anarcho-Gadsden_flag.svg/2000px-Anarcho-Gadsden_flag.svg.png

WOO HOO! I will wave this flag to celebrate the fall of Das Kommune!

We've done it, comrades, hee hee! We've outlasted the communist filth. Now time to target North Korea!

Das Kommune is safe...

http://www.nationstates.net/region=das_kommune

Okay Albul, give it up.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Okay Albul, give it up.

It is creepy, as I use NS++, to read this statement! 0.0

Especially considering how I said that I would review this message board to make sure that you aren't partying. It seems that the opposite is true.

By the way, I dismissed my puppet from here after it was denied citizenship. ;)

Albul wrote:It is creepy, as I use NS++, to read this statement! 0.0

Especially considering how I said that I would review this message board to make sure that you aren't partying. It seems that the opposite is true.

By the way, I dismissed my puppet from here after it was denied citizenship. ;)

Give it up!

80's music for the party!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG3PnQ3tgzY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjPau5QYtYs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbt30UnzRWw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djV11Xbc914

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btPJPFnesV4

Albul wrote:It is creepy, as I use NS++, to read this statement! 0.0

Especially considering how I said that I would review this message board to make sure that you aren't partying. It seems that the opposite is true.

By the way, I dismissed my puppet from here after it was denied citizenship. ;)

False. There was intel of you working with TTA when I was President to get a puppet in here. As I recall, you were bragging to an undercover puppet that you succeeded in slipping in when everyone was focused on your obvious puppet. We got files man.

If there is one thing I do not like about the 80s is the music videos.

Now get lost.

Humpheria wrote:False. There was intel of you working with TTA when I was President to get a puppet in here. As I recall, you were bragging to an undercover puppet that you succeeded in slipping in when everyone was focused on your obvious puppet. We got files man.

heh heh, master puppeteer, eh?

Playing up a dream of a good world and only failing to deliver up to the expectations, classic liberal. heh heh.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:If there is one thing I do not like about the 80s is the music videos.

Now get lost.

Do you prefer the 90's?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK1MwhEDjHg

Humpheria wrote:False. There was intel of you working with TTA when I was President to get a puppet in here. As I recall, you were bragging to an undercover puppet that you succeeded in slipping in when everyone was focused on your obvious puppet. We got files man.

HANG ON I DID NO-

Oh wait. I sent you those telegrams...nevermind.

Humpheria wrote:False. There was intel of you working with TTA when I was President to get a puppet in here. As I recall, you were bragging to an undercover puppet that you succeeded in slipping in when everyone was focused on your obvious puppet. We got files man.

Two puppets?

Next time I'm mad at a region there's my plan.

Post self-deleted by Miencraft.

DISTRACTION TIME!

Anyone running next month? Because I am. Should be fun to not try this alone.

Miencraft wrote:DISTRACTION TIME!

Anyone running next month? Because I am. Should be fun to not try this alone.

Me obviously.

The Ilerminaty wrote:Do you prefer the 90's?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK1MwhEDjHg

http://www.nationstates.net/region=brandenburg_gate

eat it

Miencraft wrote:DISTRACTION TIME!

Anyone running next month? Because I am. Should be fun to not try this alone.

Hmmm.....

Joking of course, my time has passed. I can only hope for a VP from somebody.

Miencraft wrote:DISTRACTION TIME!

Anyone running next month? Because I am. Should be fun to not try this alone.

I say VOTE MIEN

For a kinder, gentler farm....

[B] Vote Time

For a more Sensible and Balanced View.

Ankha wrote:I say VOTE MIEN

For a kinder, gentler farm....

I vote MIEN.

Ankha wrote:I say VOTE MIEN

For a kinder, gentler farm....

I vote MIEN.

...I need material uhhh.

It is obvious that Mien's supporters are Animal Farm loving Commies.

The Neo-Confederate States Of America wrote:I vote MIEN.

FOR A KINDER GENTLER FARM.......TTA just wishes he could be part pf the Mien Farm Experiance

Vote me so that I can bring thDeseret cry.e horses to their knees and make

Renegalis wrote:Vote me so that I can bring thDeseret cry.e horses to their knees and make

Da fuq does this say?

Ankha wrote:FOR A KINDER GENTLER FARM.......TTA just wishes he could be part pf the Mien Farm Experiance

I don't even know what that is.

Vote me so i can make deseret cry by bringing horses to their knees wow that message killed itself

Renegalis wrote:Vote me so i can make deseret cry by bringing horses to their knees wow that message killed itself

Vote me so I can put...sapient equines under protection from being hurt.

By violating my economic freedoms? i think not

Renegalis wrote:By violating my economic freedoms? i think not

Sapient Equines are Spaient and thus should be treated as humans.

Haha I got you. I allow cannibalism in Renegalis. Therefore if I can eat a person i can eat a sapient horse CHECK and MATE!

Renegalis wrote:Haha I got you. I allow cannibalism in Renegalis. Therefore if I can eat a person i can eat a sapient horse CHECK and MATE!

Is it voluntary only...

Also. Can I move to your nation now?

Yeah as long as they don't protest its allowed. You tell me how to speak to the horse through a meat churner and if it says no and I'll see about stopping lol.

Renegalis wrote:Yeah as long as they don't protest its allowed. You tell me how to speak to the horse through a meat churner and if it says no and I'll see about stopping lol.

Well a Sapient equine would be able to speak and think like a person.

So it'd be able to say no...if it wished, it could be like me and be fine with that though...

On last note I must rest. Lots of stuff to do tomorrow. Night all

Ankha wrote:FOR A KINDER GENTLER FARM.......TTA just wishes he could be part pf the Mien Farm Experiance

ALL 'TATEMITES ARE EQUAL, BUT SOME ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS.

Miencraft wrote:ALL 'TATEMITES ARE EQUAL, BUT SOME ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS.

...No!

All TATEMITES shall be equal under the law.

Miencraft wrote:ALL 'TATEMITES ARE EQUAL, BUT SOME ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS.

Misquoting Animal Farm.

The Neo-Confederate States Of America wrote:Misquoting Animal Farm.

shots fired

[B] VOTE TIME [/B][/U]

FOR A SENSIBLE AND BALANCED VIEW.

The State Of Deseret wrote:Vote me so I can put...sapient equines under protection from being hurt.

You lost my vote.

The State Of Deseret wrote:[B] VOTE TIME [/B][/U]

FOR A SENSIBLE AND BALANCED VIEW.

Nah. I'll stick with Miencraft. He strikes me as a very Calvin Coolidge-like President. Which is a good thing in my book.

... in seriousness I'm not running for pres.

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