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Region: Libertatem
There was literally like 15+ things to comment on. You would not have done it either. [that'sretarded]I'm not sure how that makes me any less qualified for government either.[/that'sretarded]
Don't know why you're so mad either? It's simple tactics good god. Either of you would have done the same you're getting mad over nothing.
[sacrcasm]Vote for RRRG! A vote for corruption and hypocrisy![/sarcasm]
1. Actually it does. It shows your less qualified because you are unwilling to go over the finer details. I would have done it, have you seen how much I actually put into this region?
2. Yes, a shameful tactic employed by those like Chris Christie, Barack Obama, Rob Portman.. etc. Say one thing, do the other. Dont you dare accuse me of doing the same thing. I stay true to my word, I hold to my beliefs. Just as I stated earlier.
I like how you're just saying what I said before and acting like you invented a new attack on me.
1. No, it really doesn't. Being on the Board is about making and voting on legislation and other things of that nature. I read over those things with great care. I do not want to type fifty five million paragraphs to respond to the last 8 hours worth of posts. You are ludicrous. Good job you're active every day, that's so hard to do!
2.What's that? Governors, Senators, and the President? They aren't very successful at all huh? Parties in the region don't even really mean a damn thing in terms of values. Most of the parties are basically the same thing in terms of values. You also don't even like me anyways so I don't really care what you have to say. You want beef or what?
1. Yes, but your expected to look at others opinion and read through them, hopefully make decisions based on what they say and yes, offer your input.
2. There you go putting words in my mouth again. You didn't even read a bit of what i wrote earlier did you?
And believe me I look at all of them if I can, but it's a total pain in the ass to sift through 50+ posts, read them all some of which are several paragraphs long, and then respond to each one. Nobody does that and don't act like you do either.
None of that even put words in your mouth...
Enough flaming and arguing, all of you. Multiple wrongs don't make a right.
In recent events, RRRG has proven his loyalty does not lie with the RLP, and is running as an Independent. Those who do not support the RLP would probably like his campaign. Those who do, for the most part, probably wouldn't.
I don't know what you read, but I think he and Muh are arguing because he turned his back on his values, tricked people, and then accused others of doing the same thing. I don;t think it is about who supports his policies.
He never said he didn't like you. Stop using that as a way to get out of facing the flame that you started.
I'm not certain those were his values to begin with; he seemed to have a rather independent mindset when he first arrived, and most likely decided to do the practical thing and join the majority party.
Yes, he hasn't handled it very well, but I've seen him in action before. While his integrity may be in question now, in the long run he does what he feels is right. Hopefully he'll have better luck with that in the future.
I predict Amarican will be the winner of this election with nothing short of a miracle keeping from making it official right now, and he's equally deserving of the Board seat - if not, more. Regardless, Grimes won't come out of this election without a supporter.
He doesn't have to say it
What are you even saying? When did I say anyone else did what I have and switched parties around elections? I never said anything like that idiot. The values of every party in this region are basically the same, expect the communist ones obviously. I haven't turned my back on any values. Duh.
And Honestly, who didn't see me leaving the RLP? It's been coming for a while now let's not act like this sprang out of nowhere.
I like Amarican too. It was tough finding attacks and arguments against him admittedly. He did the smart thing and ran against someone who just got into a fight with a few people so that was pretty good tactics right there. But Humpheria the Hypocrite isn't going to dog on him for his tactics, guaranteed. Nor will anyone else including myself. I wish he would have ran for your seat Humpheria.
Actual question:
Since Humpheria is going to be the Vice President shouldn't his seat have been up for grabs anyways? Let's be honest, the election is just a formality at this point. How can someone be on the board and be VP too that doesn't seem fair? Please explain?
You don't have to attack anyone, you know.
Stop fighting. I swear we spend more time fighting with each other then we do with the Reds.
WHen your views are basically the same, there is no other way to try and convince someone your better than another except by attacks.
Stop trying to turn this around on someone else to exact your revenge. Preferably, the VP will stay in the Board. That way a trusted experienced person stays in the office. I don't know if your remember, but the VP is a ceremonious title unless if something comes up. The amendment expressly states that the VP can hold any other office in the government. He doesn't do anything. And should the VP have to step up, his position on the Board will be subject to special election or appointment.
CI thank you for defending him, regardless of what he has done, I do feel kind of bad that everyone is ganging up on him.
And regarding the party-switch. You never said that someone was switching parties but you did say that we were scumbags. Pot calling the kettle black. And yes, we all knew that you were going to switch out eventually.
At least try to make it civil, I mean that will tear us apart faster than a TTA comeback.
You are incorrect. It is not domination, nor the implication of superiority, but integrity that makes one stand apart.
Not trying to turn it around. And ok I forgot about that clause.
any 1 of those 3 things done correctly work, actually.
If you haven't noticed, you're losing. One of those three things does work, and its the one you aren't trying for.
*it's
Integrity is to have strong values and high principles that people can like. "Do what is right." That's my principles. That's an easy sum up of them at least. Not many seem to like that some how. It eludes me why they don't, why they just can't.
Congratulations to whom ever wins this race in advance. I am going to be camping all weekend. Good luck to the President and his challenger in your races. I'm sorry I won't be here for most of your race, try not to kill each other. Ret assured I will vote for my choice when I get back Sunday if the poll isn't up before I leave.
*installs self as interim chairman*
Oh, and have fun.
And is it right to cast aspersions at other people's character? Is it right to insult people who see things differently? (This is a question for all of us.)
Aspersions upon one's asparagus have always seemed to me to be a sign of weakness.
Actually, you are. If anything serious should arise, please be responsible.
No, it's not. I'm sorry RRRG and Hallo.
Of course, wouldn't want to leave you with tons of problems that would only potentially get worse as time goes on.
._.
Also, you're on fire.
While we're all upsetting the RLP, I thought I would just leave this here
http://reason.com/archives/2014/04/24/rand-paul-is-right-jimmy-carter-was-thri
Pretty neat read
I leave now.
I leave you with this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZfRaWAtBVg
What would be an adjective integrity?
Integretous?
Integreful?
Integrigable?
Integritive?
I have no interest in a frivolous expansion of government. It'll be more efficient to put the Vice Presidency in the hands of a Board ally - a precedent I hope sticks.
That's a fair point.
I think the adjective of "integrity" is "integral" Alchandria
I will leave with something that is painfully true https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwA1VeYpvaM
Childhood Ruined.
I've always used integral, but technically that's not how that works.
It makes some fair points, but some things in there are unsourced and completely untrue. He tried hard to abolish several of the departments that were expanded, but all spending bills originated in the House, which was controlled by Democrats his entire Presidency. Spending-wise, Reagan gave America long-term reforms that eventually led to the balanced budgets of the 1990s through automatic spending cuts that began in the mid-80s. Jimmy Carter created two budget behemoths that have done huge amounts of damage - the Departments of Education and Energy. Screw Carter.
I'd like to congratulate The Amarican Empire on his upset victory 11-6 in the Seat 3 Board Race. I look forward to working with him come May.
Congratulations to Lack and Amarican. Looking forward to working with both of you.
And, y'know, the other two Board members.
I'm back after lord knows how long.
:)
Welcome back!
Thanks.
Welcome back.
12-8 I thought?
And congrats to Amarican. I know he'll do a good job.
I'd like to thank Reagan for his service. It is an honor to succeed him in service to the glorious region.
3 voters were not citizens.
Power went out. And I shattered my basketball hoop.
It's been a good facking day.
I'm just glad to have that all done with. Congrats Amarican.
RRRG, We had an intense argument yes, but that does not reflect that i do not like you personally. Your a good guy, i don't have to agree with your political tactics nor views to make that decision. I know in the end that we share some values, and that you go about things with the same passion i do. So please stop thinking i dislike you, it's simply untrue.
Sorry sir =(
I don't understand all the hyperbole about an "RLP dictatorship". We're an efficient political machine that can win elections. That's it.
:) Payed 400 bucks for that basketball hoop. :-(
This is ridiculous. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w63LGx3kN7s
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Actually, not really. I don't agree with Libertarianism really either.
1. "Libertarians are arrogant."
Yeah, we are. Because we're right, and we know it.
2. "Libertarians can't point to any cases of libertarian ideas working in the real world."
There are plenty of examples we've cited to show the success of particular policies from tax cuts to drug decriminalisation, so this is bullshit.
3. "The Founding Fathers weren't libertarian, because Benjamin Franklin once used the Pennsylvania Legislature to fund a hospital."
I'm just gonna let that one sit as it is.
4. "The Bill of Rights was never really applied, it was only until after World War One that the Supreme Court started protecting it."
AHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!
5. "It was liberals who pushed for civil rights, something conservatives and libertarians were completely against."
Historical lies. Republicans authored and pushed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, 80% of which voted for it as opposed to 60% of Democrats. And to say that libertarians were opposed to civil rights is utterly ridiculous - you can't have a society in which property rights are supreme when slavery is allowed.
6. "George Bush's Republican Party has embraced libertarianism."
No.
7. "They're very simpleminded in how they blame everything on the government."
So blaming everything on the rich is any more intelligent?
His final monologue just makes no sense at all. Don't waste your time watching this guy, he doesn't use any sources or evidence to back up his weightless and misrepresented points.
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Libertarians aren't right all the time. I think Liberal policies are utterly ridiculous. Just look at how bad Obama messed up the nation with his ideologies. Harry Reid would absolutely frighten me if he were president.
On a side note, does anybody agree that The Republicans are becoming more progressive? The Constitutional Party is more Republican than Republican.
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Yay!! Conservative power!!!
Libertarians had an alliance with the New Left back in the day before becoming a bit more conservative again.
http://archives.library.wisc.edu/uw-archives/exhibits/protests/draftcardburning.jpg
Hint: Draft protesting is a Libertarian position
Libertarian != liberal
The two are very different. Both conservatives and libertarians have something against the current liberal administration in the US, for example. And while libertarians care about practical solutions for the poverty problem, the liberals are staring down at the lower class like ants from their ivory tower of misplaced idealism (and the conservatives don't pretend to care).
Well, we are a region of libertarians. I'm sure most of us don't trust your everyday "efficient political machine".
Nonetheless, the RLP is virtuous. (Virtuous! There's an adjective that means integrity!)
My thoughts exactly. This guy is a joke I literally LOL'd at him.
The Republican Party has to evolve to survive. It is in a sad state right now. Evolve or die that's how it has to be. Once our more progressive minded generation takes government control I seriously doubt the Republican Party, with it's current values, will be redundant in the future. Times are changing and the Republican Party has to change.
I got lost on the dark side of the internet...
I think I need to go take a really long shower and go to bed now.
Hi.
Welcome to Libertatem, Isdano.
If there's anything you need, don't hesitate to ask anyone. We know things.
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Well, I've had enough internet for one day. Good night.
Ok.
G'night.
This video almost made me pee. It's NSFC(not safe for christians). I wanted to share this video anyways.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nx1y6ACscM
I forgot the link earlier sorry
G'night. Wow 2 hours...
Regardless of what the hyperbole is about, you should all be ashamed that there is even hyperbole in the first place. Be proper politicians and relay your platform for the public to see. Maybe by actually delivering speeches, you can win over votes?
I approve of the bluntness of this message.
The Green Party *shivers*
So quiet today.
Yup.
In fact, there were supposed to be elections today.
Yup.
Yeah. I thought so to...
[B]PEVVANIA/HUMPHERIA 2014[/B]
On September 14th, 2013, the Founder issued a dire warning.
"A gap has appeared. A gap that threatens to push Libertatem off the edge and into the pit; the point of no return. The region's long time leaders are leaving (or resigning), the people are quitting, and the resources for our force are shrinking. A stagnation has gripped the region."
And he was right. Libertatem was very rapidly disintegrating. Our Founding Fathers had all but left us. In October, our population hit a low point of 48 nations. Today that would have placed us as the 252nd-largest region in the world, or as large as the Federation Of Free States. Our RMB was as dead as a Mid-Western ghost town, our spirits were eroded. The Army was not just dormant, but completely inoperative - its structure had collapsed, all operations were permanently suspended, and it was completely starved of active volunteers. Our alliances fell apart. We were all alone. And meanwhile, the regional government was completely dormant, and its few operational elements were actively resisting constitutional reform to fix our broken region.
I had never planned on running for the Presidency, but I knew that I was the only one who could lead this great region back to greatness. So I did with a five-point plan to restore our region. I planned to [B]RECRUIT[/B] more nations, [B]RESHUFFLE[/B] our dead government, [B]RESTORE[/B] our military, [B]REPAIR[/B] our foreign affairs and [B]REFORM[/B] the Constitution. My plan, I said, would lead to a sixth R: recovery.
And it did. The Great Depression of late-2013 ended in a matter of weeks as heavy recruiting efforts brought a new generation of Libertatemites, and our population doubled to 100 nations. I replaced the dormant Board and Managers - some of whom had actually left the region - with a staff of committed public servants ready to pave the way for a new era. The Military came back with a vengeance, going on to roll back Communism in over 113 regions. My diplomatic team repaired our foreign relations, opening up exciting new relationships and rekindling some old ones. Long-sought reform to the Constitution finally came, weakening the power of the executive and creating an elected Board.
On into my second term, the beginning of the first continue to this day. We rode out the March Recession like a vociferous horse, bringing our population from 73 nations to an all-time high of 116 in less than one month. For the first time ever we're in the top 100 largest regions, at 92nd place. We are the largest libertarian region on NationStates, and the fifth-largest anti-communist region. Domestic politics are creating new opportunities for the less active in our region to participate. I and the Reaganist Libertarian Party have continued the reforms of my first term, going on to restructuring immigration and codifying the judiciary. We have become a strong force in interregional politics, with many independent regions being taken under our wing. We have established a reputation of loyalty to our allies, and are a credible threat to our enemies. And needless to say, the military is doing the best it has ever been in all our history.
With all these successes, you may ask, why would I run for a third term? And the answer to that is: you ain't seen nothing yet. My work is not done; there is more to accomplish before my Presidency ends. Specifically, the War on Communism. We have reached a point when victory against the Empire we've struggled so hard to fight is not a distant dream, but a reachable reality viewable in the distance. Due to the actions of Libertatem, important hubs of foreign military power have been destroyed. Due to our actions, the NS Left is on its knees, leaderless and stagnant. Their ten-year reign of terror is finally coming to an end. But I must finish this job. I will continue to fight on long after the end of my Presidency, but today I see my goal as creating an army that is equipped to sustain itself years into the future.
Today, it's morning again in Libertatem, as more nations will participate, post and vote than ever before. Under my leadership, our region is prouder, stronger and better.
[B]Vote Pevvania/Humpheria today at the polls - for liberty, strength and republicanism![/B]
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Mr.President, Are their any Individual policies that you would like to see happen in your Third Term?
That's a good question, Amarican. In my third term I hope to
-Restructure Reato so that it's equipped as the arsenal of liberty to fight totalitarianism on an interregional scale.
-Strengthen the judiciary.
-Enact map reform.
-Take down at least three medium-sized or small and notable statist regions.
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We should put our time into taking over one big region instead of three small regions.
This statement reeks of ignorance of our foreign policy. We are working to take down several large regions, but it doesn't happen overnight.
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*Shivers*
I officially nominate [nation=short]Humpheria[/nation] as my running mate!
[I]IMPORTANT NOTICE
Remember only citizens qualify to vote in this election. If you want to apply for citizenship, click the link [I]citizenship[/I] in the WFE and follow the directions it gives you. If you have any questions please ask me, the manager of internal affairs, directly.
Argh...
Good luck to both candidates.
Mr. President and Hallo,
What are your plans concerning your cabinet? Will you retain the current cabinet or make alterations? This includes the attorney general.
Three small regions can be worth more than one big region, if they are of strategic importance. Besides, raids against small-to-medium-size regions are more likely to succeed; while larger regions have active founders and delegates, and the accumulated influence among its citizens makes invasion impossible, smaller targets are far easier to seize and less likely to be protected.
I'm very happy with my cabinet, but I will not re-appoint [nation=short]The Neo-Confederate States of America[/nation]. I think he's done a splendid job working for the Administration in other positions, but I'd appoint a new Attorney-General with more experience in my third term.
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