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Albenia wrote:-_-

I'm trembling.

Call the mobs? What?

Don't kill me man.

I just got the ok to open embassies with Gay Equality.

Remember. You can privately do things. But a private citizen does not speak officially for the region. You have to go through the State Department. CI and Pev decides which embassies we have.

Also, for clarification, the Board does not have the Constitutional power to accept or deny embassies. That's the State and President's job.

Humpheria wrote:Remember. You can privately do things. But a private citizen does not speak officially for the region. You have to go through the State Department. CI and Pev decides which embassies we have.

I have permissions from CI and I already know that Pevvania supports this. I know the rules, Humpheria.

But, specifically, I do not like the idea of making an embassy with a region just because of something. Like the Gay Equality region, the only thing they do is gay. For example, their delegate is a self-proclaimed communist and they have a military called the "Red Empire Army". Really? I implore the executives to reconsider an embassy.

Hallo Island wrote:I have permissions from CI and I already know that Pevvania supports this. I know the rules, Humpheria.

I'm just saying that you can't declare we have an embassy without CI or Pev publicly approving it. Your knowledge is irrelevant if you do not adhere, Hallo Island.

They are a Neutral, anti fascist region. The aren't all communist. I did not declare that we had an embassy. I was just making Pev and the people whom actually are relevant to this operation aware.

Why did you seek an embassy with them?

Aren't we all relevant to an operation of the State that will affect the region? Or just you and Pev?

We need more support for our LGBT citizens here. This will not be much of a change. It isn't like they will come over and start throwing rainbows everywhere whilst riding majestic unicorns.

No one here should question Pevvania. Is this clear?

Doesn't matter you don't have the authority to make that choice.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Doesn't matter you don't have the authority to make that choice.

I didn't make that choice, the manager of state and the damned president did. Do they have the authority?

All that I'm saying is that you went to that region because they support gay rights. I do too, but I don't think we should base our government decisions off of something like that. Also, for the record, I may be wrong but I think that you are the only LGBTTQQIIAA here.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:No one here should question Pevvania. Is this clear?

*Cough Freedom of speech Cough*

Humpheria wrote:All that I'm saying is that you went to that region because they support gay rights. I do too, but I don't think we should base our government decisions off of something like that. Also, for the record, I may be wrong but I think that you are the only LGBTTQQIIAA here.

TTA, My ex, Terentuem, probably others.

Hallo Island wrote:I didn't make that choice, the manager of state and the damned president did. Do they have the authority?

I don't know why you're cursing. Can't we discuss regional affairs together without spouting off at each other?

Hallo Island wrote:TTA, My ex, Terentuem, probably others.

TTA is, Who is that?, Terentuem isn't here anymore, probably isn't solid.

Humpheria wrote:TTA is, Who is that?, Terentuem isn't here anymore, probably isn't solid.

Dintinia. He probably cted...

Two isn't a major demographic

Humpheria wrote:Two isn't a major demographic

Statistically 1 out of ten people are gay. That gives us about 12 people, give or take.

I doubt there are 12 gay people here. Anyway, let's stop dodging the subject, back to the embassy question.

Hallo Island wrote:Statistically 1 out of ten people are gay. That gives us about 12 people, give or take.

While that may be true in an large, diverse population, although I truly doubt it, what we have in this region is a very concentrated population whose diversity I seriously question.

Does anyone wan't to come out right now right here?

Go ahead Ipian we wont judge.

Furthermore, the vast majority of us here are in support of the natural rights of individuals. Applying the term "gay rights" only limits our perspectives

Ipian wrote:Does anyone wan't to come out right now right here?

That isn't really how that works, Ipian.

Ipian wrote:Does anyone wan't to come out right now right here?

no

Hallo Island wrote:That isn't really how that works, Ipian.

Prove it

Lack There Of wrote:Furthermore, the vast majority of us here are in support of the natural rights of individuals. Applying the term "gay rights" only limits our perspectives

I do not support gay equality

Humpheria wrote:I do not support gay equality

Grrrrrr

Hallo Island wrote:Grrrrrr

I support gay ignorance

Humpheria wrote:I support gay ignorance

I support not giving a damn about how other people go about their lives.

All people should be equal.

Humpheria wrote:I do not support gay equality

Look everybody, humpy isn't in the majority

Hallo Island wrote:All people should be equal.

If you really want to get into it, I can go on for hours about how that's completely impossible.

Of course, they should all be treated as people, but for all intents and purposes they're not all equal, because nature.

Miencraft wrote:If you really want to get into it, I can go on for hours about how that's completely impossible.

Of course, they should all be treated as people, but for all intents and purposes they're not all equal, because nature.

All people should be treated equally.

Hallo Island wrote:All people should be treated equally.

That's better.

I do not support a government or society trying to force obviously different people into "equality". I support a society being ignorant to the differences of other that are not themselves. I would much rather be ignorant to Hallo's differences and look at him like anyone else, than try to cram him into a category.

Lack There Of wrote:Look everybody, humpy isn't in the majority

Humpheria wrote:I do not support a government or society trying to force obviously different people into "equality". I support a society being ignorant to the differences of other that are not themselves. I would much rather be ignorant to Hallo's differences and look at him like anyone else, than try to cram him into a category.

Hallo Island wrote:All people should be treated equally.

Humpheria wrote:I do not support a government or society trying to force obviously different people into "equality". I support a society being ignorant to the differences of other that are not themselves. I would much rather be ignorant to Hallo's differences and look at him like anyone else, than try to cram him into a category.

Humpheria wrote:I do not support a government or society trying to force obviously different people into "equality". I support a society being ignorant to the differences of other that are not themselves. I would much rather be ignorant to Hallo's differences and look at him like anyone else, than try to cram him into a category.

This works too.

how about we cram him into the prep category.

Humpheria wrote:

Look everybody, humpy is real clever like

The Amarican Empire wrote:how about we cram him into the prep category.

How about we cram you in a trash can, ya nerd

The Amarican Empire wrote:Go ahead Ipian we wont judge.

Grrrr

Lack There Of wrote:Look everybody, humpy is real clever like

*clicks tongue*

Ipian wrote:Grrrr

Ipian is actually only gay for me.

Humpheria wrote:*clicks tongue*

Or naw

Hallo Island wrote:Ipian is actually only gay for me.

Grrrr

But, anyway. I express my concern with accepting embassy requests from Gay Equality to the President.

Also, I would like to bring up the Libertatem-FFS Cooperation Treaty, which has already been ratified by FFS, to everyone's minds. I am not a representative, so I cannot bring it to a vote. Can I get a non-government official to motion and second?

You're behaving like children.

For one, I'm not sure why a debate on homosexuality started, considering most of us here don't really care about others' personal lives and are full proponents of civil freedoms. And for another, I can't believe members of my department are being accused of doing, well, their jobs; they by all means have the capacity to represent Libertatem abroad, and we all know that Pevvania will make the final decisions anyway.

Humpheria wrote:Also, I would like to bring up the Libertatem-FFS Cooperation Treaty, which has already been ratified by FFS, to everyone's minds. I am not a representative, so I cannot bring it to a vote. Can I get a non-government official to motion and second?

Yes, this is important; we've neglected this for too long.

Furthermore, we need a renewal of concordance in REATO; the Second REGAN Treaty, currently at a vote in half of the signatory regions, awaits our legislature's approval and President's signature as well.

*REAGAN Treaty

I can't believe I misspelled that

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Yes, this is important; we've neglected this for too long.

Furthermore, we need a renewal of concordance in REATO; the Second REGAN Treaty, currently at a vote in half of the signatory regions, awaits our legislature's approval and President's signature as well.

Mine has waited longer. You have to wait your turn. neener neener

Hallo Island wrote:Ipian is actually only gay for me.Or naw

Everyone's gay for you...

Anyways. How do I make a Radical Centrist, Totalitarian, Orwellian Party sound attractive?

Albenia wrote:How do I make a Radical Centrist, Totalitarian, Orwellian Party sound attractive?

Lie.

And for the record I am the B in LGBT

TTA go back to Democratic Socialism.

It's pretty simple, if you want equal rights for gays, you treat them like normal couples. Marriage should be allowed between those of the opposite sex and should be recognized, no form of any government should be able to tell you how to live your personal life, that includes national, state, and local.

The Amarican Empire wrote:TTA go back to Democratic Socialism.

......

Liberal Socialist. Gosh.... But this political belief brings more unity to a region. Unity brings strength.

You sound like a Fascist i used to talk to.

The Amarican Empire wrote:You sound like a Fascist i used to talk to.

Orwellian politics FTW!

Albenia wrote:Everyone's gay for you...

Anyways. How do I make a Radical Centrist, Totalitarian, Orwellian Party sound attractive?

You make me want to go full on McCarthyist. Unfortunately my libertarianism holds me in restraint.

Humpheria wrote:But, anyway. I express my concern with accepting embassy requests from Gay Equality to the President.

Also, I would like to bring up the Libertatem-FFS Cooperation Treaty, which has already been ratified by FFS, to everyone's minds. I am not a representative, so I cannot bring it to a vote. Can I get a non-government official to motion and second?

Can one of you Reps motion and second the vote?

Liberosia wrote:You make me want to go full on McCarthyist. Unfortunately my libertarianism holds me in restraint.

Yeah. Due to an emotionally disturbing experience. I ended up going from Left-Libertarian to Radical Centrist Totalitarian.

Liberosia wrote:You make me want to go full on McCarthyist. Unfortunately my libertarianism holds me in restraint.

I made this cute little party in my region that describes my views perfectly.

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_time_alliance/detail=factbook/id=262206

Albenia wrote:I made this cute little party in my region that describes my views perfectly.

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_time_alliance/detail=factbook/id=262206

1984 maybe?

Northern Prussia wrote:1984 maybe?

Yesh. That's where I got my new ideology from.

Orwellian Politics.

Albenia wrote:I made this cute little party in my region that describes my views perfectly.

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_time_alliance/detail=factbook/id=262206

Thought crimes, anyone who seems strange? What a load of tripe.

Irish Rebels wrote:Thought crimes, anyone who seems strange? What a load of tripe.

Indeed. I still have a part of me wishing it wasn't so. However to keep the state unified and organized some liberties must be given up.

I got approved for Citizenship, so I was told I'm in the House of Representatives. If it's ok, I would like to motion to bring the Treaty Humpy is talking about to a vote.

Sween would like to request foundation of an embassy in Pevvania.

Juche Union is cutting off ties for inter-regional diplomatic reasons concerning other left regions. Sween would like to create embassies in Non-hostile regions with different politics from our own.

POSTAL INFORMATION

-Address: Sweenian diplomatic offices, 287 Emerald st, Oured Osea.

-Message Sent Via: Direct orders from Sweenian Hall of Diplomacy, 9 December Square, Pyongjing, Beijyang.

So a nation is trying to start an embassy with another nation? Unheard of.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:I got approved for Citizenship, so I was told I'm in the House of Representatives. If it's ok, I would like to motion to bring the Treaty Humpy is talking about to a vote.

THANK JESUS! Will someone second it?

Sorry I have been active the past 2 days everyone. I have had a literal ton of projects and paper to wrap up and I'm still not done. I'v also just been busy in general. I'm taking a break for a little bit though to converse.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:No one here should question Pevvania. Is this clear?

I thought we were fighting the totalitarians not becoming them? All authority should be questioned.

Humpheria wrote:I do not support a government or society trying to force obviously different people into "equality". I support a society being ignorant to the differences of other that are not themselves. I would much rather be ignorant to Hallo's differences and look at him like anyone else, than try to cram him into a category.

I mostly agree. I don't like when the government wants everyone to be treated the same, even though it is the right thing to do. People should be aloud to think the way they want, ignorant or rational. They are different, I agree. I get upset when say, a mentally retarded person walks by and nobody looks at them or says anything while they are around in fear of offending them or feeling bad or something. They are obviously different, there is no use in treating them like everyone else. Are they given the same tests in school? No. I wish I had their classes sometimes, all they do at my school from what I can tell is read, color, and dust the tops of lockers while everyone else is in class. It's so easy, and they get to graduate too! How is that fair?

Albenia wrote:Orwellian politics FTW!

Is this based on the ideals of crappy allegorical author George Orwell?

Albenia wrote:Indeed. I still have a part of me wishing it wasn't so. However to keep the state unified and organized some liberties must be given up.

Does this conform with the teachings of the LDS?

Humpheria wrote:So a nation is trying to start an embassy with another nation? Unheard of.

I agree, that's a bit stange

Humpheria wrote:So a nation is trying to start an embassy with another nation? Unheard of.

No it isn't.

Look in the Factbook&Information forum

The New United States wrote:Does this conform with the teachings of the LDS?

Let me ask you. Have my politics ever fallen in line? I'm bisexual after all.....

Maybe I should fix that.

Humpheria wrote:THANK JESUS! Will someone second it?

Can I second it, my Board term technically hasn't started yet.

If I can, I second the notion to bring the FFS Treaty to vote.

Humpheria wrote:THANK JESUS! Will someone second it?

Seconded!

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:Can I second it, my Board term technically hasn't started yet.

If I can, I second the notion to bring the FFS Treaty to vote.

TWO SECONDS!!! Either Pev or Liberosia now needs to start a poll. The People hath spoken!

Changed my flag.

Good work to Hallo for securing an embassy between Gay Equality and Libertatem!

This is something I've been wanting to do for months in order to diversify our foreign relations. We've got embassies with regions representing our Catholic and pro-life nations here, so I think it's fair that we have an embassy for our small but growing LGBT population.

Pevvania wrote:Good work to Hallo for securing an embassy between Gay Equality and Libertatem!

This is something I've been wanting to do for months in order to diversify our foreign relations. We've got embassies with regions representing our Catholic and pro-life nations here, so I think it's fair that we have an embassy for our small but growing LGBT population.

Humpheria wrote:But, anyway. I express my concern with accepting embassy requests from Gay Equality to the President.

And I'll leave it at that.

Humpheria wrote:And I'll leave it at that.

I read your concerns. I always read the RMB.

Pevvania wrote:Good work to Hallo for securing an embassy between Gay Equality and Libertatem!

This is something I've been wanting to do for months in order to diversify our foreign relations. We've got embassies with regions representing our Catholic and pro-life nations here, so I think it's fair that we have an embassy for our small but growing LGBT population.

Thank you, sir.

On the authorization of President Pevvania, I have sent an official diplomat to our new friends.

Where may I read this treaty?

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=humpheria/detail=factbook/id=259382

Essentially, it creates a diplomatic and military alliance with FFS.

Would it be possible to have me as the diplomat for Gay Equality?

You can have a diplomat, but Communist Victoria asked me to be the diplomat, and Pev approved me. You can send a puppet there, but I'm the word of the region there.

Humpheria wrote:You can have a diplomat, but Communist Victoria asked me to be the diplomat, and Pev approved me. You can send a puppet there, but I'm the word of the region there.

Well you straight up said you didn't want to have our regions tied, so I don't really understand why you would want to be the diplomat.

I've published a new factbook - "The Pev Administration". It's quite interesting if you have a bad medium-term memory.

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=pevvania/detail=factbook/id=263074

Anyone else remember when I dismissed ISA, and then all the Board Members who supported the new constitution were afraid they'd get fired too? Good times.

I didn't support the embassy because they were solely about gay equality. But now they are expanding and becoming a growing region. I can dig that.

Humpheria wrote:I didn't support the embassy because they were solely about gay equality. But now they are expanding and becoming a growing region. I can dig that.

Grrrrrr

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