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Jordsindia wrote:For the military only, right?

Lets not forget the politburo as well.

The Neo-Confederate States Of America wrote:Lets not forget the politburo as well.

Oh wait, those are the only people worth anything in North Korea, according to North Korea, I forget.

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:Who is the woman in office ?

...Michelle...?

Question, why do we have the social liberal Beethoven playing, when we could have the quasi libertarian Tchaikovsky?

1812 overture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbxgYlcNxE8

Miencraft wrote:Humpheria has failed

Is that a fat joke?

Humpheria wrote:Is that a fat joke?

Everything is if you want it to be.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Question, why do we have the social liberal Beethoven playing, when we could have the quasi libertarian Tchaikovsky?

1812 overture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbxgYlcNxE8

Because it sounds good?

Because who cares?

Is TTA a traitor? I dunno.

Do his actions look suspicious? Certainly.

Does Libertatem allow people to talk to our enemies without legal consequences? Yes.

Should TTA openly act entirely independent as long as he is submitting to NK? Without a doubt.

Should we stop bickering so that we remain strong and united? Yes.

Any other questions?

Miencraft wrote:Because it sounds good?

Because who cares?

Because you are a COMMUNIST SYMPATHIZER

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Because you are a COMMUNIST SYMPATHIZER

... NO YOU

Miencraft wrote:... NO YOU

No, TTA

Miencraft wrote:...Michelle...?

Who is Michelle ?

Humpheria wrote:Any other questions?

When's Humpy After Dark coming back?

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:Who is Michelle ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:Who is Michelle ?

Michelle Obama

Miencraft wrote:When's Humpy After Dark coming back?

Only by executive order El Presidente.

Humpheria wrote:Only by executive order El Presidente.

And now for a copypasta!

"The HUD Act

Humpheria After Dark

Article 1

Section I

Every day at 9PM Eastern, the After Dark period will begin, and it will end at sunrise over New York City the next morning.

Section II

Should Humpheria be present, this time will be called Humpy After Dark

Section III

Sex with Humpheria will be distributed freely during this time.

Section IV

Humpheria must wear either nothing, or skintight clothing for the duration of After Dark.

Article II

Section I

Humpheria will be jailed for non-compliance."

Boom!

oooooh Ok. I though you were talking about a woman in office in Libertatem.

I knew this was nearly impossible.

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:Who is Michelle ?

Moochelle Obola.

That's one way to beat the Communists.

Whilst Tsarist Russia during 1812 was no libertarian paradise, the Russians saved Europe from the knawing evil of Napolien's French dictatorship

Humpheria wrote:That's one way to beat the Communists.

With sex?

Humpheria wrote:Is TTA a traitor? I dunno.

Do his actions look suspicious? Certainly.

Does Libertatem allow people to talk to our enemies without legal consequences? Yes.

Should TTA openly act entirely independent as long as he is submitting to NK? Without a doubt.

Should we stop bickering so that we remain strong and united? Yes.

Any other questions?

1. Not last time I checked

2. I guess they might.

3. yeah!

4. Of course.

5. Agreed.

Miencraft wrote:With sex?

No with Humpheria's sex.

Go to 13:58 for the fun part. :D

Miencraft wrote:With sex?

As long as it is freely distributed evenly to all revolutionaries.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Go to 13:58 for the fun part. :D

CHAAAARGE

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Whilst Tsarist Russia during 1812 was no libertarian paradise, the Russians saved Europe from the knawing evil of Napolien's French dictatorship

2 bad things the French and a dictaorship. But the French part is the worst part.

The Amarican Empire wrote:2 bad things the French and a dictaorship. But the French part is the worst part.

I like the part where they all died in the Russian winter because they were dumb.

The Amarican Empire wrote:2 bad things the French and a dictaorship. But the French part is the worst part.

Hump's gonna kill you now, you know?

The Amarican Empire wrote:2 bad things the French and a dictaorship. But the French part is the worst part.

*whispering to self* 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. *deep breath*

Humpheria wrote:*whispering to self* 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. *deep breath*

HONHONHON

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Hump's gonna kill you now, you know?

Shrink said I can't do that the francophobes anymore.

Miencraft wrote:HONHONHON

Non.... non..... non.....

This is goddamn Mien after dark.

I'm going to go to bed before I completely destroy all chances of conducting diplomacy from now to the end of time.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:I can give y'all Time After Dark.

Oh god no.

Fun fact : a lot of French people still love Napoleon, even if he led more than one million french soldiers to their death, establish a dictatorship and bankrupted the country.

The only good Frenchman was Bastiat.

Miencraft wrote:Oh god no.

Come on Time after Dark.

I can tell you my most guarded secrets and some very strange relationships o' mien.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:The only good Frenchman was Bastiat.

Come on. a big 0.001% of french people are good.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:Come on Time after Dark.

I can tell you my most guarded secrets and some very strange relationships o' mien.

If you do it, I'll jump. I swear to God, I am not playing games with you.

Good night, everybody!

Now it's time for the Roads after dark.... roadshow? Eh.. it's mostly infomercials and people begging to hear me speak.

http://youtu.be/JIGDL2Wl16w

Muh Roads wrote:Now it's time for the Roads after dark.... roadshow? Eh.. it's mostly infomercials and people begging to hear me speak.

http://youtu.be/JIGDL2Wl16w

I've seen that video before. Its hilarious, just like cs188s other videos.

I'm privatizing my millitary

The Amarican Empire wrote:I'm privatizing my millitary

And then the DWSM paid your armies off and took control.

Just got tricked into joining a workers' union. Ugh.

How did they trick you?

The Amarican Empire wrote:How did they trick you?

There was a paper stashed in a stack of paperwork I had to do. Admittedly, I could have paid more attention, but it was like the twentieth paper.

Been outta town for a day or two. What's going on?

Humpheria wrote:Just got tricked into joining a workers' union. Ugh.

Stay to meet chicks and argue with people. That's what I did when someone pushed me into joining a union one time.

Humpheria wrote:Just got tricked into joining a workers' union. Ugh.

Nice.

Before Rick Snyder, a lot of work places in MI required you to be in the union to work there.. The one I was in wasn't so bad.. paid union meeting time.. lol

Do you guys support Workers Unions?

I do as long as it's voluntarily joined and as long ad said Union actually works to protect the workers logically and rationality.

I support them historically when they where only there to help, but now they have grown corrupt and a killer of our economy.

The State Of Deseret wrote:Do you guys support Workers Unions?

I do as long as it's voluntarily joined and as long ad said Union actually works to protect the workers logically and rationality.

The Super PAC (union) that I joined had a newspaper calling Mitch McConnell "a right-wing economic disaster" and hailing Alison Lundergan Grimes as a hero of the workers. The next section was a story about how the Union saved a worker who skipped 9 days of work to hang out with his girlfriend. They sued the company and made them pay 25,000.

8th most scientifically advanced in the region - and not a single dime of government spending going towards subsidies. Hell yeah.

Pevvania wrote:8th most scientifically advanced in the region - and not a single dime of government spending going towards subsidies. Hell yeah.

I'm 83rd but that's cause we spend on the Military, Laws and Administration.

If you had to support a Party, but the Republican, Demicrats and Libertarian parties all were gone who would it be?

I'm going with the Modern Whigs.

The Constitution Party. I'm the 4th most scientifically advanced.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:I'm 83rd but that's cause we spend on the Military, Laws and Administration.

If you had to support a Party, but the Republican, Demicrats and Libertarian parties all were gone who would it be?

I'm going with the Modern Whigs.

The Reaganist Libertarian Party.

The Amarican Empire wrote:The Constitution Party. I'm the 4th most scientifically advanced.

Ick...

Pevvania wrote:The Reaganist Libertarian Party.

Is that a real party?

I'd support the Objectivist Party.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I'd support the Objectivist Party.

..Oh joy that one.

I do not believe america has a Party restoring the Monarchy to it, in as much I would support your rotten revolutionary constitutional party, because at least it shows true conservatism.

The Constitution Party is a paleoconservative party. Meh, I dislike the racism and populism that paleos seem to peddle.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:Ick...Is that a real party?

Yep.

https://www.reaganistlibertarianparty.us

Pevvania wrote:Yep.

https://www.reaganistlibertarianparty.us

Sir that webpage is not available.

Lord Oaksworth wrote:Sir that webpage is not available.

That's my sarcasm for ya.

I urge all members of the House, and all citizens, to vote [B]against[/B] the Attorney General's Act. The former President Humpheria has made many important legislative contributions to the region, but this is not one of them. It authorises a large expansion of government and is fundamentally unconstitutional. Article III of the Libertatem Constitution says that "The government of Libertatem shall have an Attorney General, appointed by the founder." It cannot become an elected position unless the Constitution is amended.

Pev supporting bureaucracy instead of democracy. That's strange.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Pev supporting bureaucracy instead of democracy. That's strange.

I haven't been allowed to say this in a long time

#RLPTyranny.

It does support the creation of new government people though if I remember correctly. I simply voted Yes because it allowed the AG to be elected.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Pev supporting bureaucracy instead of democracy. That's strange.

Actually, I'm opposing bureaucracy, which the act expands.

[B]Section II

Subsection II

The OAG shall be consist of the Attorney General, Deputy Prosecutor, and Deputy Policy Attorney[/B]

Elections are all well and good, Amarican, but this act is a violation of the Constitution, which explicitly gives the Founder/President power to appoint the Attorney-General.

The act expands the Amount and Power of the government by making an Office of the AG, while it does expand democracy it creates two newly appointed positions...Which really makes it a 1 election 2 new appointment deals instead of one Appointment.

We didn't have the Deputy prosecutor and Police attorney before this bill right Pev?

Then sue the government if it passes.

This is weird, but I find myself agreeing with Time. This is a good bill

The Amarican Empire wrote:Then sue the government if it passes.

Or I could just say no...

I shall follow The New Libertatem Party in opposition of this act.

It sets up 1 Elected to 2 appointed ratio.

it doesn't actually increase democracy. It looks like it does, but it doesn't.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:It sets up 1 Elected to 2 appointed ratio.

it doesn't actually increase democracy. It looks like it does, but it doesn't.

So it's just another hump trick to increase the power of the government!

For once, I vehemently disagree with the good President Pevvania!

It goes without saying, as is always true, the constitution can be amended. The Attorney General is the final say on legal affairs and I feel that it is far too important to be employed at the leisure of the President. Not to mention a drastic decrease in executive power, which is always a good thing.

On the bureaucracy issue, the act explicitly states that these positions can be held by anyone else, and they're only purpose is to support the AG in their respective areas and to stand in for him when there is a conflict of interest. Just because two essentially powerless minute positions are created, it would be insufficient to cry bureaucracy and condemn an important innovation in the justice system.

It does not expand government by any means. The Attorney General office exists. I am not adding a whole new office, simply amending how that office is filled.

I urge the people of Libertatem, do not vote no simply because it is suddenly popular. This is an essential piece of legislation. Should the President choose to veto this at Pevvania's discretion, every legal form of recourse will be taken, I assure you.

The Warring States Of The Mediterranean wrote:The act expands the Amount and Power of the government by making an Office of the AG, while it does expand democracy it creates two newly appointed positions...Which really makes it a 1 election 2 new appointment deals instead of one Appointment.

We didn't have the Deputy prosecutor and Police attorney before this bill right Pev?

Really?

The Office of the AG already exists. I'm in it. I said that it would be known as the OAG for the sake of typing OAG instead of Office of the Attorney General.

Yes, an elected official appoints two deputies. But, these deputies can hold any other office, they have no executive power, no legislative power, and very little judicial power. The Deputy Prosecutor would assist the AG in a trial by compiling evidence and standing in his place when he is not available or he is involved in a conflict of interest. The Policy Attorney would assist the AG in legislative constitutionality and defense cases by offering a second opinion on legislation in question. Period. He can stand in if there is a conflict of interest, but that is very rare. But to prove it's worth, in this case. If it passes and it's constitutionality comes into question (which it won't as I intend to amend) I would of course rule in it's favor. I wrote it. This would be an instance in which it is necessary. It does not create two military dictators, it creates two research assistants.

Will we get so caught up in semantics and wordplay that we refuse the region this essential expansion in democracy and decrease in executive discretion?

I apologize i didn't know exactly how much power these two new posistions would have.

So if the US Department of Defense reorganizes and employs more appointed officials. Its an unwarranted expansion of government. But if you expand your office its completly okay. Humpheria, I have agreed with you on many issues, but this looks as if you are trying to increase your influence within our government.

I would like to motion a vote to create the unofficial office of Chairman of the House and place Pevania on the seat.

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Can I just point out that when the elected President appoints five guys without anyone else's say nobody cares, but when someone tries to add another elected official that appoints less than half of that, people go nuts?

Miencraft wrote:Can I just point out that when the elected President appoints five guys without anyone else's say nobody cares, but when someone tries to add another elected official that appoints less than half of that, people go nuts?

I agree, this isn't a expansion of governement

Right-Winged Nation wrote:I agree, this isn't a expansion of governement

I'm with you guys.

Well its adding two new seats to the Office, therefore expanding the government

Northern Prussia wrote:Well its adding two new seats to the Office, therefore expanding the government

Nobody cared when the appointed IA, State, and War managers appointed deputies.

Northern Prussia wrote:Well its adding two new seats to the Office, therefore expanding the government

It is apart of the Attorney general's staff.

I actually did, but should everyone stand for more expansion?

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I say nay to this bill. The bill is unconstitutional in its own right and the mere fact that the Attorney General, who is charged with legal and constitutional matters of this region would even dare propose such a bill.

Northern Prussia wrote:So if the US Department of Defense reorganizes and employs more appointed officials. Its an unwarranted expansion of government. But if you expand your office its completly okay. Humpheria, I have agreed with you on many issues, but this looks as if you are trying to increase your influence within our government.

The meaning of this law went right over your head.

It makes the Attorney General an elected office, which it is currently appointed by the President, who also appoints four other people at his will without any balance. The Attorney General prosecutes crimes and rules on legislation, the President could use that to his advantage to influence legislation. Which is why it should be an elected office.

The two appointed officials have no executive or legislative powers. The most that they can do is rule on a trial or legislation in the absence of the elected Attorney General.

This is not simply because I am Attorney General. By making the Attorney General an elected official, I put myself at risk of getting voted out? If I was worried about myself, I would want it to stay appointed so that I could safely keep it. You can oppose legislation, but please do it for the right reasons.

Right-Winged Nation wrote:It is to help the Attorney General, not to increase the power of government

I oppose this legislation more for its constitionality, rather than its content.

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