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Pevvania wrote:... I believe that President Trump is going to be a net positive for liberty.

Teuberland wrote:1. I question whether Trump is really all that anti-establishment... Overall, I don't believe Trump would be a net positive... ...the lining is an incoming lightning strike.

We shall see. Disestablishment is good, but those in power who got that power by their craft and guile are going to be notoriously difficult to root out both by their desire to stay in power and by aligning with the outsider in pretending to change their stripes (Just like what killed the Reagan Revolution by 1987). If we want to return to liberty and limited government under Trump we are going to have to fight for it on a daily basis. Few (benefiting form the Beltway Establishment) are going to voluntarily diminish their livelihood or existential justification without a fight. Draining a swamp will have to be a persistent rallying cry.

Rateria, Teuberland

I pushed Johnson heavily in the general election, but ended up rooting for Trump on election night. Not that I wanted him to win, but because I wanted Shillary Killary Crooked Clinton to lose. To address [nation=short]The[/nation] Fifth Libertatem President of Pevvania's post:

1. What is the definition of establishment? Just gonna copy paste stuff off of Wikipedia here: "The Establishment generally denotes a dominant group or elite that holds power or authority in a nation or organization." So it's usually rich white people who have played a hand in pushing legislation and certain candidates. While Trump hasn't fully dived into politics until 2015, he has been to numerous fundraisers, has supported his share of candidates, and have bribed politicians to do what he wants. He's a member of the elite who has power and a hand in government. Does this not mean that Donald Trump is a member of the establishment? I think the thing that retracts that label from him is his ego and his instability. He does not want his administration to be labelled as average or anything lackluster, for that will tarnish the Trump name. He likes to be the wildcard, you never know what Trump's going to do next. His cabinet considerations are heavily concerning to me, except for Rhee. Also, Trump is no supporter of the Constitution.

2. Donald Trump is the antithesis of the current leftist SJW, that is true. Voting him into office was the biggest middle finger America could do to combat that ideology. But if we truly dissect Trump, we will find he has certain SJW-like qualities about him. He hates it when people make fun of him, and constantly tries to sue people who do. He opposes and wants to add punishment for American flag desecration, and said today that he wants the theater to be a harmless and special environment. Sounds to me like being a huge, sensitive crybaby, who wants to ban the things he doesn't like and create safe spaces.

3. Trump also wants to: Expand NSA overreach, increase the use of the death penalty, raise the minimum wage (?), increase military spending, increase surveillance on mosques, open up libel laws to sue news sources that say "false and just horrible" things about him, use federal watch lists, increase the amount of torture, supports eminent domain for private use and public use, etc. While he is more on the side of freedom than Hillary Clinton, he is still a tyrant in his own right. With a smart Congress and a self controlled cabinet, I hope we can use Trump's positives to create a net benefit for America.

4. Trump has said that he wants to keep the main cornerstones of Obamacare. The most I think he wants to do is open up state lines to allow for more competition. Hell, he might even advocate for a public option like he has in the past. We just don't know anymore. I if think Congress with pass a repeal on Obamacare, Trump will sign it. I do think he is going to slash taxes and allow for more economic freedom, with his decrease in regulations and all. The protectionism is still concerning, with his Smoot-Hawley Act reenactment. Hopefully Congress will prevent that.

5. Trump has praised executive orders, opposed freedom of religion, opposed criticism of himself, opposed gun rights to those on the watchlist, opposed due process, supported torture, supported the death penalty, supported eminent domain, and has supposedly said he would give the Vice President all the power (that is, if we are to believe John Kasich). Sure, he might be relatively pro-gun and may support federalism to a degree, but he has A LOT of problems constitutionally. I haven't examined his list of Supreme Court judges, but I fear the eventual appointment. His appointment of Rhee makes me comfortable. Trump and I agree a lot on education, so I'm sure he'll try his best in that department.

6. Sure, he's voiced some non-interventionalist foreign policy positions. But he has also said he wants to bomb the s... out of people, bring back torture even if it doesn't work, and "go after the families" of terrorist suspects. I don't know what he supports, because he seems to only apply the NAP on occasion. I do support his anti-NATO stance.

7. Let's dissect his spending plans:

-Increase the military budget, especially when it comes to the border-currently 16% of the budget

-Keep the welfare programs the same or expand them (Social Security and whatnot)-currently 33% of budget

-Eliminate foreign aid-currently 0.01% of budget

-Eliminate the environment budget-currently 1%

-Cut the science budget-currently 1%

-Increase the infrastructure and transportation budget by 500 billion dollars-currently 3% of our budget

-Oppose cuts to healthcare budget, create more competition- currently 27% of our budget

Trump is planning on blowing up or maintaining our biggest expenditures and lowering taxes at the same time. That means greater deficits. More debt. I agree, that is concerning.

Overall, I don't know what to think of a Trump administration. I'm anxious for it though.

Rateria

Pevvania: http://www.everyjoe.com/2015/12/03/politics/anti-establishment-doesnt-mean-pro-liberty/#1

Narland, Rateria

I'll keep this short and sweet. Unlike Condealism I have no love for long windy speeches, and I know that most people's attention spans aren't great either. So my presidency will hopefully see the continued transparency of the government and non-intervention in foreign affairs, while at the same time increasing the population of the region to hopefully break its previous record.

I will:

-Vote down every WA proposal as part as a regional campaign to slow down the WA's power, unless said proposal is a repeal of a former one

-Vote for liberations or condemnations/commendations as necessary

-Continue our non-interventionist foreign policy. We should not intervene in the affairs of others, lest we get another Slavia on our hands.

-Keep the borders open, bar an imminent invasion, to allow for the free flow of ideas and new immigrants.

-Buy some telegram stickers and increase our numbers to 200, or enough to become the biggest libertarian region in Nationstates. I will hope to increase activity back to 2014 levels.

-Reconfigure our embassy system, get rid of old or unnecessary embassies and establish new ties to regions. I will also want to establish a sort of an ambassadorial system where we will send people as ambassadors to various regions in order to improve relations.

-Finally, in accordance with our non-interventionist foreign policy, reestablish REATO as a broad defensive alliance between like minded regions to coordinate liberations should one of us fall to raiders. This will not be an aggressive military alliance. We will not raid people. We will only help each other.

Pevvania, The Ambassador To The Clfr, Rateria, Hyderbourg

If you vote for me, I will legalize marinara.

No, I will not just legalize marinara, but all of the other sauces as well. And gravy; I love gravy.

Pevvania, Kumquat Cove, Rateria

If you vote for me, I dunno what'll happen.

I should probably just drop out of the race, I don't really want to be President. Vote for one of those other guys.

Pevvania, Humpheria, Rateria, Condealism

Hola, all~!

Narland, Kumquat Cove, Rateria

Velina And Malve wrote:Hola, all~!

Welcome to Libertatem!

Narland, Kumquat Cove, Velina And Malve

Condealism wrote:I also have a confession to make, fellow libertarians: Tl;dr

But seriously, if this election has taught me anything, it's that there does not exist, and never will exist, a single politician worth siding with - at least, as far as I'm concerned. I shall henceforth adopt a 'wait and see' approach and start raising awareness for the issues I care about at a local level.

It's only encouraged me to run. I once got to ask Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL)a question on gun control:

Me: "With all due respect--"

Durbin: "Oh here we go *laughs*

Me: "*also laughs* With all due respect, isn't banning people on terrorist watch lists from purchasing weapons unconstitutional?"

Durbin: "Would you fly on a plane with someone on a no-fly list?"

Me: "....Idk"

Durbin: *goes on to make a point about gun control that I have since forgotten*

This was a couple of days after the Orlando Shooting. Unfortunately, the group tour of Congress came just before the House sit-in and the Senate filibuster (or was it the reverse?). Anyways I should have retorted by arguing the fact that neither lists have legal due process, but I failed in arguing that.

Anyways my point is that no candidate is perfect to the majority of individuals, so we should run to give everyone the most options and to give our own values a fighting chance.

Condealism

The things that makes me think we elected the right man with Trump are as follows:

—The news media is melting down, especially MSNBC.

—The college kids are rioting in the streets.

—The politically correct crowd are acting as if this is an extinction level event.

Those are pretty high recommendations.

Condealism

Miencraft wrote:If you vote for me, I dunno what'll happen.

Ooh, chaos! I'm down for that ;)

The Ambassador To The Clfr wrote:The things that makes me think we elected the right man with Trump are as follows:

—The news media is melting down, especially MSNBC.

—The college kids are rioting in the streets.

—The politically correct crowd are acting as if this is an extinction level event.

Those are pretty high recommendations.

It sounds like those college kids need more government, if you know what I mean. ;)

Narland, Rateria, Condealism

Post self-deleted by Narland.

If you vote me for me, you wasted your vote because I'm not running.

Miencraft, Pevvania, Rateria, Condealism, Teuberland

Post self-deleted by Narland.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:It sounds like those college kids need more government, if you know what I mean. ;)

More self-government that should have been taught at home before grade school like:

1. tempertantrums are ulimately self-defeating--a lesson that if parents fail to teach the police and prison system eventually will.

2. any grup (grown-up) that is powerful enough to wipe your nose for you is powerful enough to rip that nose of your face.

3. Only a very bad man would say, "If you want your cookie you can keep your cookie..." and then make you to play Simon-Says to get it back.

Miencraft, Republic Of Minerva, The Ambassador To The Clfr, Rateria, Condealism

Narland wrote:More self-government that should have been taught at home before grade school like:

1. tempertantrums are ulimately self-defeating--a lesson that if parents fail to teach the police and prison system eventually will.

2. any grup (grown-up) that is powerful enough to wipe your nose for you is powerful enough to rip that nose of your face.

3. Only a very bad man would say, "If you want your cookie you can keep your cookie..." and then make you to play Simon-Says to get it back.

*applauds*

The Ambassador To The Clfr

So... who's the idiot trying to log into my account?

"You don't own me" continues to be one of the most libertarian songs ever made

even if it just describes a relationship

Well I just came back from residential treatment. I am not even going to try to read all of these posts

Republic Of Minerva

The United States Of Patriots wrote:Well I just came back from residential treatment. I am not even going to try to read all of these posts

Welcome back. I hope you are doing well.

Kumquat Cove, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Voting for the President of Libertatem happens tomorrow. Will there be debates?

Rateria wrote:Voting for the President of Libertatem happens tomorrow. Will there be debates?

Dunno.

Just remember that I'm not running, so all you kids can have fun replacing the longest-lasting Libertatem resident who isn't Liberosia.

Miencraft wrote:Dunno.

Just remember that I'm not running, so all you kids can have fun replacing the longest-lasting Libertatem resident who isn't Liberosia.

And so Rome falls.

Oh, by the way, Jack Kennedy died on this day in 1963.

Muh Roads wrote:And so Rome falls.

So I guess Camelot's not the only thing that falls on the 22nd of November.

Rateria wrote:Voting for the President of Libertatem happens tomorrow. Will there be debates?

I look forward to literally demolishing my opponents.

"Ha ha, you mean figuratively, right?"

...

"..."

...

"..."

...yes. Figuratively.

Rateria

Condealism wrote:I look forward to literally demolishing my opponents.

"Ha ha, you mean figuratively, right?"

...

"..."

...

"..."

...yes. Figuratively.

"They're taking the point. Time to blow it- THEM up.

I meant them."

Rateria

Humpheria wrote:Who running?

I'm jogging

Rateria

Minerva for President!

Republic Of Minerva, Rateria

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZnlz-b2NnY

Rateria

As of now, the two presidential candidates are:

Minerva

Condealism

Condealism

When does the voting process begin?

Hyderbourg wrote:When does the voting process begin?

Whenever the hell Humpheria starts the polls, but he's Constitutionally bound to do it today.

Condealism

Nice to see the RMB is active again.

Temedme and Teuberland: I completely accept all your criticisms of Trump, as I was opposed to his candidacy for quite a while, but a few points.

He cannot reopen libel laws, since current libel law was decided by the Supreme Court in the 70s, and he does not have the authority to act on that.

He does not want to keep the "cornerstones" of Obamacare. The cornerstones of Obamacare are indisputably the individual mandate and the employer mandate, which everyone, including him, wants to get rid of. All he said was that he would look into keeping the coverage for under-25s rule, and the rule that forbids discrimination against pre-existing conditions. These are relatively insignificant regulations, as far as most libertarians would be concerned. What matters is that Trump has opposed the ACA since the beginning and the Republican Congress is very anti-Obamacare as well. It will fall. What matters is to what extent it falls - whether we'll have a 'hard repeal' or a 'soft repeal'. His ideas for health savings accounts and opening up state lines were actually on the Libertarian Party website when I first checked it out last election cycle, so 'Trumpcare' would be a step in the right direction.

I share your scepticism of his spending plans. His and the GOP's eagerness to adopt his extremely expensive agenda items is very concerning. Most of his spending cut plans fall on some Medicare reforms and the 'penny plan', i.e. cutting each non-discretionary, non-military item of the budget by 1% each year. As you guys correctly pointed out, even this would not be able to balance the massive tax cuts, $500 billion worth of infrastructure tax credits and increased military spending. Which leads me to believe that out of realism Congress just cannot enact his agenda without cutting some spending.

Ok ok, we know the GOP's poor track record for doing this, but Paul Ryan is a known fiscal hawk and has ambitious welfare reform ideas that he's wanted to act on for his entire career.

My point is that I think there's cause for optimism.

Miencraft

I love and respect my two friends Condealism and Minerva. They both have great track records and have served this region individually and to previous administrations for years. But since Minerva is the only candidate with a platform, I cast my vote for him. I think it's a great platform, by the way. Libertatem has clearly changed but it needn't be for the worse. We all lead busy lives and I see no issue with maintaining a relatively non-interventionist foreign policy in this phase.

Also, who here remembers when I was President? Good times.

Miencraft, Republic Of Minerva, Rateria, Condealism

You were president for a damn long time, Pev. An emperor, almost. ;)

Thank you for your vote!

Miencraft, Pevvania, Rateria, Condealism

Pevvania wrote:Nice to see the RMB is active again.

Temedme and Teuberland: I completely accept all your criticisms of Trump, as I was opposed to his candidacy for quite a while, but a few points.

He cannot reopen libel laws, since current libel law was decided by the Supreme Court in the 70s, and he does not have the authority to act on that.

He does not want to keep the "cornerstones" of Obamacare. The cornerstones of Obamacare are indisputably the individual mandate and the employer mandate, which everyone, including him, wants to get rid of. All he said was that he would look into keeping the coverage for under-25s rule, and the rule that forbids discrimination against pre-existing conditions. These are relatively insignificant regulations, as far as most libertarians would be concerned. What matters is that Trump has opposed the ACA since the beginning and the Republican Congress is very anti-Obamacare as well. It will fall. What matters is to what extent it falls - whether we'll have a 'hard repeal' or a 'soft repeal'. His ideas for health savings accounts and opening up state lines were actually on the Libertarian Party website when I first checked it out last election cycle, so 'Trumpcare' would be a step in the right direction.

I share your scepticism of his spending plans. His and the GOP's eagerness to adopt his extremely expensive agenda items is very concerning. Most of his spending cut plans fall on some Medicare reforms and the 'penny plan', i.e. cutting each non-discretionary, non-military item of the budget by 1% each year. As you guys correctly pointed out, even this would not be able to balance the massive tax cuts, $500 billion worth of infrastructure tax credits and increased military spending. Which leads me to believe that out of realism Congress just cannot enact his agenda without cutting some spending.

Ok ok, we know the GOP's poor track record for doing this, but Paul Ryan is a known fiscal hawk and has ambitious welfare reform ideas that he's wanted to act on for his entire career.

My point is that I think there's cause for optimism.

You should be aware that what Trump says and what he does are entirely two different things.

He said throughout his campaign that he would indite Hillary Clinton, now he seems to have changed his mind. He has also removed a number of contentious points from his platform on his website, including references to banning muslims from entering the United States. It seems that Trump is the perfect dark horse establishment candidate.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:You should be aware that what Trump says and what he does are entirely two different things.

He said throughout his campaign that he would indite Hillary Clinton, now he seems to have changed his mind. He has also removed a number of contentious points from his platform on his website, including references to banning muslims from entering the United States. It seems that Trump is the perfect dark horse establishment candidate.

Possibly. The guy is certainly a loose cannon. My opinion of him is and will remain flexible, unlike the SJWs who will permanently despise him and the conservatives who will blindly follow him off a cliff.

That's a real shame about Clinton. Crooked Hillary belongs in a prison cell, and it would be a real blow to the establishment if one of their own goes to jail for their crimes.

Condealism

Miencraft wrote:Whenever the hell Humpheria starts the polls, but he's Constitutionally bound to do it today.

I think he constitutionally doesn't give a.... damn.

Humpheria, Rateria, Condealism, Hyderbourg

Muh Roads wrote:I think he constitutionally doesn't give a.... damn.

Off with his head.

Rateria

Im willing to offer again my services as chancellor of the interior to whom ever is elected

Rateria

The election has begin and will last three days.

Rateria

Humpheria wrote:The election has begin and will last three days.

Begun*

Humpheria wrote:Begun*

The spellcheck has end.

Miencraft wrote:The spellcheck has end.

is minerva you?

When I voted it counted me as one of "high influence"

I've never been flattered like this in my life

Rateria

Alistia wrote:is minerva you?

This is a silly question.

Hyderbourg wrote:When I voted it counted me as one of "high influence"

I've never been flattered like this in my life

You're, like, a Delegate. And you've been here for a while.

Rateria, Condealism

Miencraft wrote:This is a silly question.

well their is no nation called 'minerva'

Alistia wrote:well their is no nation called 'minerva'

Doesn't take two seconds to scroll up and find the guy to whom that refers.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:You should be aware that what Trump says and what he does are entirely two different things.

He said throughout his campaign that he would indite Hillary Clinton, now he seems to have changed his mind. He has also removed a number of contentious points from his platform on his website, including references to banning muslims from entering the United States. It seems that Trump is the perfect dark horse establishment candidate.

Temedme wrote:I pushed Johnson heavily in the general election, but ended up rooting for Trump on election night. Not that I wanted him to win, but because I wanted Shillary Killary Crooked Clinton to lose.

You and almost everyone else.

Pevvania, The United States Of Patriots

Post self-deleted by Muh Roads.

RLP TYRANNY (someone had to call it)

Miencraft, Pevvania, Republic Of Minerva, Humpheria, Rateria, Condealism

Alistia wrote:well their is no nation called 'minerva'

hi

Here is my new campaign slogan: MAKE LIBERTATEM GREAT AGAIN

Pevvania, Humpheria, Kumquat Cove, Rateria, Condealism, Velina And Malve

> Condealism

> thrower... uh, I mean, founder of the Block Party

> "unaffiliated"

Humphy pls

Rateria, Hyderbourg

Muh Roads wrote:RLP TYRANNY (someone had to call it)

More like RIP Tyranny.

Pevvania, Republic Of Minerva, Muh Roads, Rateria, Condealism

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Here is my new campaign slogan: MAKE LIBERTATEM GREAT AGAIN

> Saying that libertatem currently isn't great :P

Rateria

Alistia wrote:> Saying that libertatem currently isn't great :P

bah, it could be better. Much better. It could have flashing neon lights and rockets coming out of it.

Miencraft, Rateria

Republic Of Minerva wrote:bah, it could be better. Much better. It could have flashing neon lights and rockets coming out of it.

> saying that it doesn't already have those things.

*conceals trade deal that would export rockerts from libertatem into tmc*

Miencraft, Rateria

Hmm... right now, the only person who is voting for me is Muh Roads... and according to my platform, "Lord Roads is bae"...

...therefore, in order to win the next election, I need to call everyone bae. It's the perfect stragedy!

Miencraft, Humpheria, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Fun fact: my original campaign slogan was Make Libertatem Great Again, based on the line first used by Ronald Reagan in 1980.

Miencraft, Muh Roads, Rateria, Condealism, Hyderbourg

Pevvania wrote:Fun fact: my original campaign slogan was Make Libertatem Great Again, based on the line first used by Ronald Reagan in 1980.

MAGA before it was cool

Pevvania, Rateria, Condealism

Pevvania wrote:Fun fact: my original campaign slogan was Make Libertatem Great Again, based on the line first used by Ronald Reagan in 1980.

Remember that time we had everyone flying edited Reagan/Bush flags?

Fun times.

Pevvania, Condealism

Pevvania wrote:Fun fact: my original campaign slogan was Make Libertatem Great Again, based on the line first used by Ronald Reagan in 1980.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:MAGA before it was cool

I did a double take when I unearthed a speech I wrote more than three years ago, in which I said "make the IRU great again."

Go to hell, Fidel.

Pevvania, Republic Of Minerva, Humpheria, Kumquat Cove, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Velina And Malve

too bad he's an atheist tho ;0;

The Ambassador To The Clfr, Rateria

Republic Of Minerva wrote:too bad he's an atheist tho ;0;

Also too bad he already lived there.

Rateria

Miencraft wrote:Also too bad he already lived there.

What? Cuba is a magical land of tobacco and drugs on the cheap.

My agorism is showing I think.

Rateria

Muh Roads wrote:What? Cuba is a magical land of tobacco and drugs on the cheap.

My agorism is showing I think.

We can't have that, can we? Agorism is a subversive ideology that flirts with dangerous leftist ideals. True libertarians read the works of Lew Rockwell and the Ron Paul papers on why blacks are inferior.

Muh Roads

Once again, Trump is the only leader with any balls.

Obama: "history will judge Fidel's enormous impact"

Trudeau: "he was a remarkable leader who will be missed"

Juncker: "Castro was a hero to many"

Corbyn: "Fidel Castro was a champion of social justice"

Trump: "Fidel Castro’s legacy is one of firing squads, theft, unimaginable suffering, poverty and the denial of fundamental human rights."

The sitting leaders of the west have no conviction, no class, and no clue.

Miencraft, Kumquat Cove, Condealism, Hyderbourg

If Little Barry wants a chance at being remembered for anything more than a total failure, he should pardon every nonviolent drug offender on his final day in office.

Condealism

There still exists a cultural distaste for speaking ill of the dead - one, oddly, that I share. Though I'm loath to do it, I'll say this much: Grieving a single dictator's death over the countless their regime has slaughtered and starved not only pardons decades of despotism, but invites their repetition. If the civilized world wishes to remain so, it should stop making heroes of tyrants.

Miencraft, Kumquat Cove, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Guess I'm not pulling a Grover Cleveland.

Serves me right for offering everyone free beer if I had won... I should have offered hard lemonade instead!

New Jaslandia, Republic Of Minerva, The Ambassador To The Clfr, Rateria

All hail President Minerva.

I'm going to sit back and enjoy being a private citizen who neglects his map project for four months with nobody questioning him about it.

New Jaslandia, Republic Of Minerva, Rateria, Condealism, The United States Of Patriots

Republic Of Minerva wrote:We can't have that, can we? Agorism is a subversive ideology that flirts with dangerous leftist ideals. True libertarians read the works of Lew Rockwell and the Ron Paul papers on why blacks are inferior.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:***sarcasm

I love you

Alright, let's get to work. First day on the job.

I have still 849 telegram stamps that I am probably going to put to use in recruiting. I assume we still have a template we use for recruitment? If someone can send it to me via telegram, I'd appreciate it.

Also, don't I have to take an oath or something?

Rateria, Condealism

There is something incredibly appealing about agorism, I'll admit, even though I disagree with Konkin's unabashedly anarchist stance. It essentially gives a middle finger to the state and its hordes of loyal supporters by subverting it and outdoing its basic functions – it does not attempt to prove the market's superiority through philosophy or a priori reasoning, but through practical application with results that benefit the practitioner... instead of waiting around, voting for libertarian candidates, and hope they actually give you your freedom, it aligns more with the anarcho-individualist ideal of simply reaching out and taking what is rightfully yours, without having to ask permission.

Rateria, Condealism

While I've celebrated the election of Trump, this does not in any way mean I wish for the election of his supposed European counterparts that have also applauded his victory. Farage, Le Pen, the AfD and the others are quasi-fascists, many of whom have a heavily socialist bent and reject neoliberalism. The populist uprising across Europe is the wrong reaction to the awful, corrupt bureaucratic establishment of the EU. How I wish a genuine and popular liberty movement could arise on this continent.

Miencraft, Condealism

Pevvania wrote:While I've celebrated the election of Trump, this does not in any way mean I wish for the election of his supposed European counterparts that have also applauded his victory. Farage, Le Pen, the AfD and the others are quasi-fascists, many of whom have a heavily socialist bent and reject neoliberalism. The populist uprising across Europe is the wrong reaction to the awful, corrupt bureaucratic establishment of the EU. How I wish a genuine and popular liberty movement could arise on this continent.

Unfortunately, it's Europe - the continent that takes the piss out of Americans for owning guns whilst they whitewash their long, storied history of waging war for funsies.

Miencraft, Pevvania

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Also, don't I have to take an oath or something?

By tradition? Sure.

By law? No. Your term starts immediately upon being elected.

Condealism

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Also, don't I have to take an oath or something?

Yes. Repeat after me:

In blackest day or brightest night

Watermelon, cantaloupe, yadda yadda

Superstitious and cowardly lot

With liberty and justice for all

New Jaslandia, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Pevvania wrote:While I've celebrated the election of Trump, this does not in any way mean I wish for the election of his supposed European counterparts that have also applauded his victory. Farage, Le Pen, the AfD and the others are quasi-fascists, many of whom have a heavily socialist bent and reject neoliberalism. The populist uprising across Europe is the wrong reaction to the awful, corrupt bureaucratic establishment of the EU. How I wish a genuine and popular liberty movement could arise on this continent.

Farage has a heavily socialist bent?

... what? I mean... what? I can't stand the guy but... what? Even traditional British conservatives like Peter Hitchens think he's far-right....... what?

Condealism wrote:Yes. Repeat after me:

In blackest day or brightest night

Watermelon, cantaloupe, yadda yadda

Superstitious and cowardly lot

With liberty and justice for all

The proper oath is actually:

I, [name], do solemnly swear to protect and uphold the values of the Church of Roads, for the duration of my term and forevermore, and know that should I fail, the Great Lord Roads shall smite me with pavement.

New Jaslandia, Rateria, Condealism

By the power vested in me, by the constitution of the Second Republic of Libertatem, as executor of the proceedings to elect and appoint the President of Libertatem, I declare that the [nation=short]Republic of Minerva[/nation] has garnered the requisite support to fill that office.

President-elect Minerva, please repeat the Oath and take office as Our President.

I, , Do Solemnly Swear To Protect, Defend, And Uphold The Constitution Of Libertatem. I Swear To Execute The Will Of The People Of Libertatem Within The Rightful Extents Of The Law. I Affirm That It Is My Solemn Duty To Defend Libertatem From All Threats, Foreign And Domestic, To Uphold The Integrity Of The Region. I Promise To Uphold These Obligations Understanding The Sanctity Of My Office, So Help Me God.

New Jaslandia, Kumquat Cove, Rateria, Condealism

I, Minerva], do solemnly swear to protect, defend, and uphold the Constitution of Libertatem. I swear to execute the will of the People of Libertatem within the rightful extents of the law. I affirm that it is my solemn duty to defend Libertatem from all threats, foreign and domestic, to uphold the integrity of the region. I promise to uphold these obligations understanding the sanctity of my office, so help me Doge.

New Jaslandia, Kumquat Cove, Rateria, Condealism, The United States Of Patriots

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I, Minerva], do solemnly swear to protect, defend, and uphold the Constitution of Libertatem. I swear to execute the will of the People of Libertatem within the rightful extents of the law. I affirm that it is my solemn duty to defend Libertatem from all threats, foreign and domestic, to uphold the integrity of the region. I promise to uphold these obligations understanding the sanctity of my office, so help me Doge.

Congratulations, Mr. President.

Republic Of Minerva, Kumquat Cove, Rateria, Condealism

"Then tell me, future boy, who's President of the United States in 2017?"

"Donald Trump."

"Donald Trump? The businessman? Then who's Vice President? Warren Buffett? I suppose Oprah Winfrey is the First Lady!"

"Whoa, wait, Doc!"

"And Robert Zemeckis is Secretary of the Treasury!"

Pevvania, New Jaslandia

Hi people i just came to this region three days ago

what am i supposed to do here?

Humpheria

When will the ambassador program begin?

Rateria wrote:When will the ambassador program begin?

Patience grasshopper.

Im not taking nominations for anything just yet, but if you want an ambassadorial position shoot me a tg. Otherwise I am still busy atm due to holidays

Rateria

Ah, that's right. Don't we have, like, positions that need filling, or something?

Republic Of Minerva wrote:

Patience grasshopper.

Im not taking nominations for anything just yet, but if you want an ambassadorial position shoot me a tg. Otherwise I am still busy atm due to holidays

Thank you. I will telegram you if I have any concerns.

Condealism wrote:Ah, that's right. Don't we have, like, positions that need filling, or something?

Right. A few people have already telegrammed me about it. I have to appoint a Chancellor of War, Chancellor of State, Chancellor of the Interior, and an Attorney General. I already have some ideas, but I need to mull over it a bit first.

Rateria

Republic Of Minerva wrote:have to

I mean technically you could be all "nope these positions are empty forever" but, yeah, good idea.

Rateria

Hmm, what is the deal with the senate?

Hyderbourg wrote:Hmm, what is the deal with the senate?

Nobody knows.

Also, I'm not used to using the quote feature without the "Suppress" button there. I might accidentally start hitting "like" on everything that I try to quote.

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