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Region: Libertatem
No, not at all, that was intended wholly as a complement. You did a great job. I only consider 'activist' an insult when applied to judges rewriting the law.
Rateria, Condealism
I know I'm just jerking your chain. The Speakership has the potential to be a very powerful position.
Pevvania, Rateria, Condealism
Changed my flag. Found this classic in one of my picture folders. Those were the days.
Rateria, Condealism
I've been thinking about it and the Attorney-General should be taken off the cabinet.
Put it in a Justice Dept. dispatch or something...
Condealism
As in get rid of the position completely or just take it off the cabinet?
Humpheria
I like the latter
Narland, Condealism
Hard to believe that campaign was 3 years ago
Condealism
[quote]I think if we had slightly shorter senate terms that would be great. Perhaps every 2-3 months? But sure, I support the general idea of having midterms of some kind to act as a semi-referendum on the president.[/quote]
My idea was that it stimulates more activity and that the senate and Presidency wouldn't be tied together by a current opinion. Personally, i think the current term limits are sufficient for our population size.
President and anyone else with WFE perms are more than welcome to just go change the flag whenever the hell they want.
I like it, but there are some edits I'd like to make before it goes to vote, just to see how people like those. I'll get to that, eh, eventually.
Senate is actually two weeks-ish before the Presidency already.
I'd be down for 2-month senate terms.
We could even keep them around the same time, just make them more frequent.
What kind of language would you and [nation=short]Hyderbourg[/nation] like to see edited?
I am frustrated at whoever the host for NS is. There a blocked IP from my VPN that randomly changes. When I spend 40 minutes writing posts and responses and it gets rejected, disconnected and bamf its all gone. ***grrrrrrrr****
Whomever posted about my Goyim level being over 9000. lol--l'chaim! Sage advice: Never be the one to learn the hard way not to put lobster bisque in a Purim basket--it spills too easily. ;) I went through with Bar Mitzvah as a young man up until the final recital, and stopped short. It was a crisis of conscience--G-d made me a gentile for a reason--I am still discovering what that reason is. :) The synagogue declared me ger toshav and chassid umot ha'olam. I remained a participant until leaving the military. They were later chastised for it but I haven't left the PacNorWest since. Also, I almost married an Israeli woman (half-Nordic, half Persian, all Sabra) --nothing sexier than an intelligent woman in uniform holding a Galil that knows how to use it. :D
As a symbol I have always like the liberty torch (not to be confused with the torch of the Statue of Liberty (uglier inmnsho). I used to have a coin or token with the Torch and 12 or 13 radiating lines behind it taking up the entire obverse/reverse. If I find it I try to will make a minimalist flag based on it.
Pevvania, Rateria
I should have wrote considered instead of declared.
Oh, cool, I had no idea you were Jewish Narland.
And yes, I can also confirm that Israeli chicks are hot af.
Eh, it'd be easier to just make the edits myself, honestly. And obviously we wouldn't need to use my edits, just, y'know, something to consider.
SECTION I: The Vice Presidency
Presidential candidates may choose to run alone or with a running mate.
Upon the election of the President, he shall appoint a vice president amongst the official cabinet, with the cabinet including the Chancellors of War, State and Interior, and the Attorney-General.
[B]Move attorney general to a dispatch somewhere, doesn't need to be in the cabinet and also should not have power over communcations[/B]
The Vice President shall fully execute the duties of their cabinet position and as the first-in-line for the presidency and second-in-command of the government.
In the event of removal or resignation, the incumbent President may or may not appoint a new Vice President before the next election.
SECTION II: The Senate
The Senate shall be comprised of five seats.
If the Senate is undersized, special elections shall be held to fill the vacant seats.
If a regional map is created that effectively represents the composition of the active citizenry, each Senate seat may correspond to a geographic area of the region.
[B]This doesn't make a lot of sense, everyone should be assigned to a district, but it shouldn't correspond to a map, it should just be randomized.[/B]
The Senate shall be led by the Speaker of the Senate, who may be selected of and by a simple majority of senators.
Legislation, rules, or decrees shall be voted on in a specific room or channel at the discretion of the Senate, provided that final votes do not occur on the Regional Message Board, and that votes are accessible by the public.
Votes may or may not be accessible to the public in matters of national or regional security.
SECTION III: Order of Succession
Should the President be incapable of fulfilling his office, the Vice President, then the Speaker of the Senate, then the Chancellor of State, then of War, then of the Interior, shall take the office.
SECTION IV: Removal of Cabinet Officials
Members of the Cabinet may be removed from office by a 4/5ths or supermajority vote in the Senate, with or without a recommendation by the President.
SECTION V: Amendments to the Constitution
Contradictions in the text of the Constitution created by further amendments may be deleted, edited or revised by the keepers of the laws without further legislation.
Another piece of legislation we should introduce is more structure around election dates
The presidential election should be last Friday of April, August, and December and last until Monday.
The president should also have check-points the last Friday of February, June, and October. In these check-points there is a simple vote to keep or remove the president, it is not an election. If the vote decides to remove the president, there will be an emergency election the following week.
Senate elections should be last Friday of January, March, May, July, September, November, elections for speaker of the senate are also held at every one of these intervals.
Should we make French the regional language of Libertatem?
Hey guys! I am new to this region and I was wondering when and how I can become a citizen and join the military?
Narland, Rateria
Almost Jewish Narland ;) Some consider me acceptable and for that I am grateful. Narland's pioneer ways make it hard to have two sets of dishes on the Prairie. I greatly respect the burden of Judaism and the plight of her people with all charity and forbearance.
Yes, finding such a concentration of polymath multilingual multiple winsome, witty, intelligent, capable, expressive women with initiative and wisdom beyond their years was wonderful. I consider women who do not hide their intelligence and resolve very alluring. Israel has many.
Rateria
This is incredibly weird and strikes me as entirely useless, since there's already a recall function.
Condealism
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Assaulting the wrong person over minecraft
Welcome to Libertatem!
Check out the lInks at the top of the Regional "World Factbook Entry" when entering Libertatem.
Citizenship link: nation=the_united_states_of_patriots/detail=factbook/id=664588
For Military: Telegram The Commie Crusher of Republic of Minerva.
We hope you enjoy it here!
Rateria, Libiceland
Well I certainly botched that post several times. :(
Rateria, Libiceland
Am I supposed to telegram the United States of Patriots for citizenship?
Rateria
Yes.
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_united_states_of_patriots/detail=factbook/id=664588
narland stop ipianing
Miencraft, Rateria, Condealism
NS does not play well with my proxy service and browser's crippled java script.
****Checks the Laws to make sure ipianing is still not illegal***
Rateria
:(
dadddddd
The United States Of Patriots
Oui
Post by Yakian suppressed by a moderator.
Okay.
First, let's go find Hyderberg.
Second, what crimes do you want to charge him with?
Rateria, Condealism
Post by Yakian suppressed by a moderator.
I insist we have this as an election schedule. I do not believe we have the active population yet for a bi-monthly schedule for senate elections
Senate: 1st day of March, July, November
Miencraft, Rateria, Condealism
Post by Yakian suppressed by a moderator.
Agreed; a simple expansion of the Senate will suffice for now, and we can determine whether more frequent elections are needed later on.
Miencraft, Rateria, The Aradites
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No he's not. Hyderbourg is the President, Hyderberg isn't even in Libertatem at all.
That's not a crime. Goodbye.
Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Gaelic Eire Nua
No, no, you're looking at it all wrong. Hyderberg is a bad president, because not only is he not in Libertatem, but he's not even a president at all!
Miencraft, Rateria, Gaelic Eire Nua
You can't 👏 call yourself 👏 a real Reagan fan 👏 if you can't 👏 name three 👏 of his albums 👏👏
Pevvania, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Jadentopian Order, South Mang, Gaelic Eire Nua
Oy vey,redn in Eydish :p
Oy vey,redn in Eydish :p
Oy vey,redn in Eydish :p
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Mother of spam
Miencraft, Rateria, Nay Hofn
Get the fock out of my room i am playing minecraft(autistic screeching) :3
Rateria, Libiceland
Nope reeee
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Reaganomic$
Landslide
420 Hate it
Pevvania, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Nay Hofn
Anyways, [nation=short]Pevvania[/nation], here are the changes I wanted to make:
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=miencraft/detail=factbook/id=821891
Condealism
Trickle Down
Reaganomics
Maggy T
Rateria, Nay Hofn
AIDS is for gays
Trickle me down
No More Rece$$ion
Rateria, Nay Hofn
Tricke down economics is a myth purported by leftists. Reagan cut taxes across the board and there is no economic source for "trickle down" economics.
Rateria, Libiceland
wait what am I being impeached
youre being charge for being
B A D
Rateria, Condealism
Well
I guess now is as good a time as any to start suppressing posts and kicking people out of the region.
Rateria, Condealism, The United States Of Patriots, Uadilifu
Might as well go all the way, right?
Rateria, Condealism, Hyderbourg, The United States Of Patriots
#HYDERBOURGTYRANNY
Rateria, Condealism, Hyderbourg, Jadentopian Order, Uadilifu, Gaelic Eire Nua
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No but seriously I hit a kid because of Minecraft today
Nay Hofn
Hyderbourg suppresses post.
Rateria, Condealism, Gaelic Eire Nua
#NotMyHyderbourg #ResistHyde #FreeLewd
You have oppressed the Lewdish minority of this region, prepare for rebellion.
(just kidding I think Hyde is great)
Rateria, Condealism
That is good thinking, you are very smart
Please don't kick me out
[nation=short]Hyderbourg[/nation] and [nation=short]Miencraft[/nation], I have implemented almost all of your requested changes. However, there are two that I oppose.
Miencraft, I have intentionally written in the amendment that the VP should be drawn from the cabinet. I am adamant that we do not need to create an entirely new position for Vice President, since they don't have many duties. Frankly, even at 120 nations we should not be needlessly expanding the size of government. The RLP feels a VP would be good to have an official second-in-command that can mediate between the executive and the cabinet. If it means having no VP or having a VP independent of the cabinet, I choose no VP.
Mien and Hyder, the map clause is purely optional. Read closely:
[B]If[/B] a regional map is created that effectively represents the composition of the active citizenry, each Senate seat [B]may[/B] correspond to a geographic area of the region.
What I mean is that if we can get a properly functioning map with enough nations to fill the globe, it would be fantastic for role play, activity and the general congruence of government for each Senator to represent a specific part of the region. But it also means that if we cannot get this system to work effectively, then we can just easily stick with the current system. Does that make sense?
Condealism
Also folks, I don't want to change around election schedules or terms in my amendment. I'm not against it, and would probably be for it if it made sense, but my amendment has too many new features as is to be putting in more.
Condealism
I'm fine with the first change.
This, though, I think shouldn't be part of a law just yet; we don't have a map nor do we even know how one would work. We'd have to come back later to figure out exactly how the map is supposed to work, so I think it's best that we leave it to be figured out when we actually need to figure it out. Especially with a statement as generic and vague as that, it's going to need a lot more work down the road to get the map to work well with the Senate, so I don't see the point doing anything with it now when we're gonna need to go back to square one when the map does finally come out.
Condealism
Oh, and if the VP is a cabinet member anyways, doesn't really make a whole lot of sense to even have runningmates.
The intention of the map bit is to leave the door open to future changes so we don't have to go back and amend the constitution. If you like, I could clarify the language a bit so it's clear that this is a purely conditional clause?
Having a running mate would just be for style
Condealism
Well done "clap" "clap"
If we want constituencies, we should have citizens randomly assigned to each senate district by the CoI. Equally divide citizens among them ya know. Who needs a map?
Miencraft, Condealism
F--k the Commies (coming straight from the underground)
Pour Some Tax Cuts on Me (in the name of love)
The Real Ron Reagan (please stand up)
Rateria, Venomringo
Also yeah this is kinda what I had in mind for that. Map was always supposed to just be a neat RP feature, would be kind of hard to integrate it into regional politics like that without requiring all citizens to be mapped.
Cos maps are cool and it'd make roleplay so much better. We could have RP wars between senate constituencies, trade federations between them, loads of stuff.
Rateria, Condealism
Hey, speaking of the map, any general ideas for what it should look like? Number of landmasses, general shape of things, etc.
Cool idea so here's what we do:
Create lists in the CoI to legally form constituencies and then we can create an RP map based off of the lists that aren't written into law.
Miencraft, Pevvania, Rateria, Condealism
I'm down with that.
Condealism
I agree, nothing about the map should be written into legislation, but we can still model the map based on the legislation.
Miencraft, Condealism, Jadentopian Order
I think it should be real world based.
It's not going to be Earth; we already did that with the old map, we're doing something new this time.
Rateria, Condealism
Oo, I'd be interested in a map
Rateria
Would help if I had input on what it should look like.
Also, would help if citizens who don't already have an executive position would apply for Solicitor General. That office is still open, come on guys.
I like how active you guys are! I am really excited to be a part of this region!
Rateria
What would I be doing in that job? I'd be glad to apply, not sure how to though.
Awesome!
There are so many ways to get involved, they all start with citizenship.
Libiceland
Solicitor General represents the defendant in civil and criminal trials.
As per the base constitution, the Solicitor General is also the legal representative of the people at large in general.
For anyone interested in creating a map, I should make it clear that my nation is an archipelago.
My nation would also have to be the island of Ireland haha
I demand islands. Or underwater. Actually being on the map doesn't make sense because this nation is alt history
Funny, I got the issue "taxpayers on strike" when I have already eliminated taxation.
Miencraft, Narland, The United States Of Patriots, Nay Hofn
My nation is the Northeastern United States
Nay Hofn
My nation is in Australia but I don't mind if we put us on another planet.
I'll edit the map bit in the amendment tomorrow.
I feel like a lot of our countries are based off the real world. Perhaps we have a vote on it?
Man dieting really does kill when you're lying in bed dying for a chicken burger.
Any other gym bros out there?
Rateria
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