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I know! Hope I didn't sound hostile lol I miss being out on the farm. Was a pretty good way to earn some cash back in the day.. Driving the farmers combines was the best lol.

I never owned a hog, I'd probably be liable to turn him into bacon and chops though lol.. And I can make some Damn good pigs feet and beans xD

'f I may distract for a moment, look over there, it's an airplane!

Now look over here.

Now that I've got your attention...

NS++ needs national newspapers. Factbook formatting is a pain. Sometimes.

Miencraft wrote:'f I may distract for a moment, look over there, it's an airplane!

Now look over here.

Now that I've got your attention...

NS++ needs national newspapers. Factbook formatting is a pain. Sometimes.

First world nation problems

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:First world nation problems

Hahahahaha

Humpheria wrote:Gettin' real tired of you, boy.

Classic

Humpheria wrote:Gettin' real tired of you, boy.

:D

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Blahbania wrote:Attention!

I have created the "Anti-Black Riders Taskforce" of Libertatem.

It's job: To free Black Rider occupied regions.

If you are interested in joining, please TG Blahbania.

This looks like we are looking for trouble

I very strongly disapprove of this. Our quell is with the communists, not the Riders.

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Dangheckin nation states not respecting my punctuation.

Pevvania wrote:I very strongly disapprove of this. Our quell is with the communists, not the Riders.

*State Socialists.

Communism, as said by Karl Marx, is the most advanced form of Socialism... There is no state, no social classes, and no currency (unless community chooses to keep a currency). Replacing government is a Direct Deomocracy. Communism follows the guiding principle: "From each according to their ability, to each according to need." The workers control the means of production in joint ownership. If one chooses to work alone, then that's fine. They can live as Individualists or Collectivists.

State Socialism* is where the state controls the means of production. The USSR was State Socialist, not Communist. There are a number of reasons why the west called them Communist, and why they called themselves Communist.

The point of this is: There is a huge difference between Communism and what happened the Soviet Union, State Socialism. You shouldn't interchange them... They are different. How do guys like it when I interchange Fascism, Capitalism, and Coporatism? (which I don't, because I respect the differences). Communists feel the same way when Capitalists interchange Communism, Totalitarianism, and State Socialism.

This's Tsar, by the way.

*meaning 'Authoritarian Socialism'

This has been: long rants with Tsar. :D

I've never been one for political correctness, it just ruins everything.

For all intents and purposes, I think we can go ahead and just toss it under Communism because it's nice and convenient for us.

Miencraft wrote:I've never been one for political correctness, it just ruins everything.

For all intents and purposes, I think we can go ahead and just toss it under Communism because it's nice and convenient for us.

Have I told you how much I love you?

Miencraft wrote:I've never been one for political correctness, it just ruins everything.

For all intents and purposes, I think we can go ahead and just toss it under Communism because it's nice and convenient for us.

Seconded.

[B]Statement from the Office of he Chairman[/B]

Citizens! The Board has deliberated and the following is the official elected Board is he following:

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[B]Seat 2:[/B] Humpheria (RLP)

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[B]Seat 4:[/B] Miencraft (ACP)

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Their term will begin January First 12:00AM, EST. Thank You.

Yours in Liberty,

Humpheria

[B]Chairman of the Board[/B]

Congratulations, Liberty Front.

And also everyone else who won, but LF was the most recent so that's who I'm congratulating.

Well, looks like Vardakia doesn't have anything to say about that one thing I said.

Anywhat, looking forward to working with this Board.

Miencraft wrote:I've never been one for political correctness, it just ruins everything.

For all intents and purposes, I think we can go ahead and just toss it under Communism because it's nice and convenient for us.

Really?! OK! I'll just call toss Capitalism under Corporatism and greed!

I'll just toss Vardakia under the asshole and dickface categories!

Well put Mr. Tsar, however, I fail to see the difference between a tyranny by majority (direct democracy) and a collectivist oligarchy (soviet style). It appears that both lead down a "road to serfdom" (pardon the pun) and end in the same result of a defunct, agrarian society.

While I appreciate your respect of "our side's" names there are several distinguishable differences that demand differentiating. While it could be argued that fascism and corporatism are largely similar, neither truly represent a capitalist system.

Thus, it is unfair to broadly label these "right wing" systems that differ so greatly in both operation and theory, but "communism" can cover a great deal of the "left wing" system due to the real world examples showing the end result is largely the same.

Alchandaria, that was completely uncalled for. It is people like you that give the rest of us a bad name. There is problem with civilly discussing an issue, but blatantly name calling due to a difference in opinion is both childish and idiotic.

Lack There Of wrote:Alchandaria, that was completely uncalled for. It is people like you that give the rest of us a bad name. There is problem with civilly discussing an issue, but blatantly name calling due to a difference in opinion is both childish and idiotic.

Agreed.

Lack There Of wrote:Well put Mr. Tsar, however, I fail to see the difference between a tyranny by majority (direct democracy) and a collectivist oligarchy (soviet style). It appears that both lead down a "road to serfdom" (pardon the pun) and end in the same result of a defunct, agrarian society.

While I appreciate your respect of "our side's" names there are several distinguishable differences that demand differentiating. While it could be argued that fascism and corporatism are largely similar, neither truly represent a capitalist system.

Thus, it is unfair to broadly label these "right wing" systems that differ so greatly in both operation and theory, but "communism" can cover a great deal of the "left wing" system due to the real world examples showing the end result is largely the same.

The only examples of Communism are the early Christians, revolutionary Spain, and the free territory of Ukraine. Again the Soviet Union, China, Cambodia, etc, were not Communist. They had a state, a currency, social classes (resulting from a state), and government control over industry. You cannot "toss" two different ideologies together to make the utopian one (Communism) look evil. Just like how I can't just "toss" Capitalism into Corporatism. Just because they are leftist doesn't mean you can throw them together as one. State Socialism is on the Authoritarian end, while Communism is on the Libertarian end.

Thank you Lack there of.

Here is a very basic comparison of Communism and Socialism.

Mind you, there are still more types of both communism and socialism

http://www.diffen.com/difference/Communism_vs_Socialism

Alchandria wrote:I'll just toss Vardakia under the asshole and dickface categories!

Extremly immature of you.

I must agree with my comrade Vardakia. I find it extremely interesting that Socialist Vietnam was the one to take down the Sino-US backed regime of Pol Pot.

Vardakia wrote:Extremly immature of you.

I find his flag to be amusing. Even proponents of capitalism such as John Maynard Keynes reiterate that poverty is [I]not[/I] a choice.

Soviet Nippon wrote:Thank you Lack there of.

Here is a very basic comparison of Communism and Socialism.

Mind you, there are still more types of both communism and socialism

http://www.diffen.com/difference/Communism_vs_Socialism

Thank you very much, comrade.

Soviet Nippon wrote:I must agree with my comrade Vardakia. I find it extremely interesting that Socialist Vietnam was the one to take down the Sino-US backed regime of Pol Pot.

It's interesting for me too. I like how they beat the US and Cambodia.

I like to think that I have been here long enough for you to have noticed that half of the things I do are for the sake of argument, because I am kind of an asshole.

Speaking of which, Just for the sake of argument, does anyone else see the blatant contradiction in these communist nations residing in a aggressively anti-communist region. I don't really care that they are here, but I would like someone to fill me in on why, exactly they are here.

I believe Tsardom can best explain that.

Alchandria wrote:I like to think that I have been here long enough for you to have noticed that half of the things I do are for the sake of argument, because I am kind of an asshole.

Speaking of which, Just for the sake of argument, does anyone else see the blatant contradiction in these communist nations residing in a aggressively anti-communist region. I don't really care that they are here, but I would like someone to fill me in on why, exactly they are here.

We are here to defend Communism. We are here to teach you people that Socialism is not Communism.

What are the views of the tea party in the region? I come from outside the US, and am interested to know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77rtyQf6Hwk

Oh, so you are here to barge in and challenge one of the defining ideas that brings this region together.

And to defend communism against 100 odd radical anti communist people.

Good plan.

I would say more reactionary than radical. Radical is a term usually reserved for the extreme left.

Alchandria wrote:Oh, so you are here to barge in and challenge one of the defining ideas that brings this region together.

And to defend communism against 100 odd radical anti communist people.

Good plan.

Nippon isn't here to stay... At least I don't think. I'm here for reasons of diplomacy.

From my knowledge of the early Christian community and leftist Spain (which admittedly is limited) I can find little difference in the state of the people with that of those under state leftists. The early chiristian community, like any budding religious community, was held together by a cult like system of values and produced little, if any, excess goods and can hardly be looked at as an example for an economic system for a broad society. "Anarchy" in Spain was enforced at the end of a gun and the people were left with little food, let alone production goods. This forced economic collectivism is what weakened the republican side of the war and ulitimelty let Franco (with whom I strongly disagree) win the war. This same type of impoverished agrarian society can be seen in the state socialist countries as well; China, USSR, Southeast Asia. I realize the means are different and the theory is different, but I can see little difference in the end result.

Alchandria wrote:From where?

Canada, where the first socialist government in North America was formed (Saskatchewan)

I actually have a joke about that province. Two Americans approach a Canuck and ask, "where you from son" and the Canadian replies, "Saskatoon Saskatchewan.'' The Americans look at each other and say, "I don't think he speaks English"

I meant which region.

Also, this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0HyebF6O0w

Thank you, Comrade.

Lack There Of wrote:From my knowledge of the early Christian community and leftist Spain (which admittedly is limited) I can find little difference in the state of the people with that of those under state leftists. The early chiristian community, like any budding religious community, was held together by a cult like system of values and produced little, if any, excess goods and can hardly be looked at as an example for an economic system for a broad society. "Anarchy" in Spain was enforced at the end of a gun and the people were left with little food, let alone production goods. This forced economic collectivism is what weakened the republican side of the war and ulitimelty let Franco (with whom I strongly disagree) win the war. This same type of impoverished agrarian society can be seen in the state socialist countries as well; China, USSR, Southeast Asia. I realize the means are different and the theory is different, but I can see little difference in the end result.

The collectives in Aragon and Catolonia were huge succesess! There are innumerable statistics that were compiled to show the success in increasing production. Do you even have ANY evidence to support this? Besides the classic:

"They took my land! The people are takeing my land!

- landowner

Life expectency rose 50%. They weren't "starving" at all. It failed because the west stopped sending supplies to them, and the new Socialist government betwayed them. It was truely a social revolution.

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=vardakia/detail=factbook/id=190708

How about a BBC documentary too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN5TbqzxQBg

You cannot dismiss fact.

"They took my land! The people are takeing my land!

- landowner

That's the best quote ever

As I said, my knowledge of the Spanish collectives is limited. My main source of knowledge on the subject is Eric Blair's (G. Orwell) a homage to catalonia and the related essays in which he described the complete mess of the republican government and the tragedies of the people.

I am uncertain of the legitimacy of these "statistics" seeing as how there could have been no true unbiased observers present during this time of transition. In addition, how could life expectancy have had such a huge extension over such a relatively short period of time?

I think all of us true Libertatemians (did we establish a term for us? Libertatemites? Libertatemers? Libertaters? I like that last one) can agree that Communism, which, for the pleasure of the folks in red, encompasses all of the far-left, is a failure. Plain and simple.

Doesn't work.

See: Soviet Union 1980s-1990s.

The end.

Unless, of course, someone else has an opinion, because I absolutely can't speak for everyone. And I don't intend to. So please, someone else speak. I don't like having the last word unless it's something spectacularly brilliant.

Miencraft wrote:I think all of us true Libertatemians (did we establish a term for us? Libertatemites? Libertatemers? Libertaters? I like that last one) can agree that Communism, which, for the pleasure of the folks in red, encompasses all of the far-left, is a failure. Plain and simple.

Doesn't work.

See: Soviet Union 1980s-1990s.

The end.

Unless, of course, someone else has an opinion, because I absolutely can't speak for everyone. And I don't intend to. So please, someone else speak. I don't like having the last word unless it's something spectacularly brilliant.

It also didn't work in The Paris Commune either.

I've always liked "Libertatens".

Humpheria wrote:I've always liked "Libertatens".

Ooh, that's a good one.

"Channing Libertatem"

Tsardom/Vardakia: while I don't particularly enjoy the idea of any form of socialism, I can certainly tell the difference between the different forms of it. When I said that our enemy was the communists I meant the authoritarian communists of The Internationale and the like. They very much are communists.

Alchandria, please respect these guests to our region. UCR is an ally, and even if it wasn't we give everyone the same level of respect regardless of ideology. Insults and petty jabs are no ammunition in a real debate.

Communism or Socialism. I don't care which you like, they are both awful concepts and I agree with Alchandria, if we are anti-communist, why are there commies here? That sort of defeats the purpose of fighting communism if we don't even have a region with no communists. Or dirty Socialists.

Side note: I personally prefer the "Czar" spelling over "Tsar."

And I think we should go with Libertatites for the demonym, if any.

Throughout history, many cultures have used corruptions of caesar to preface the names of their rulers. Russia got it from rome, germany got it from russia, hence Kaiser, and we got it from germany. tsar is more used in western europe and czar is more used in america.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote: And I think we should go with Libertatites for the demonym, if any.

There is no good way to say it.

Humpheria wrote:There is no good way to say it.

Ahem, "libertatoe"

I am not a Liberty-loving starchy vegetable, I am a citizen of Libertatem! You are what's wrong with America!

Ah, I remember when I chased dreams of blind McCarthyism.

For those communists seeking to have diplomatic relations here, I strongly recommend having a thick skin. Many Libertatemites don't want to understand the difference between communism and state socialism.

For those state socialists seeking to have diplomatic relations here, you will find none. Luckily I haven't spotted any.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote: Many Libertatemites don't want to understand the difference between communism and state socialism.

So, you not only insult the intelligence of Libertatens, but you also call them Libertatemites? Treason! I kid of course, maybe, probably, kinda.

Our administration refers to us as "Libertans", I believe. I prefer Libertatemites, because it's fun to say.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Our administration refers to us as "Libertans", I believe. I prefer Libertatemites, because it's fun to say.

Aw yeah that's 2 for Libertatemites. It being fun to say is also my reasoning behind it.

And I hate socialism. Like, all socialism. Since Communism is just a more advanced form of socialism in my opinion and as somebody pointed out earlier, I also hate that. I simply suggest that if our region's main goal is to fight communism and totalitarianism then we should probably not have any countries of those types.

Greetings all,

I am Freedomrider

That is all,

Freedomrider

Ps, I also loath collectivism

I remember you. I think. Maybe.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Ah, I remember when I chased dreams of blind McCarthyism.

For those communists seeking to have diplomatic relations here, I strongly recommend having a thick skin. Many Libertatemites don't want to understand the difference between communism and state socialism.

For those state socialists seeking to have diplomatic relations here, you will find none. Luckily I haven't spotted any.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:Aw yeah that's 2 for Libertatemites. It being fun to say is also my reasoning behind it.

And I hate socialism. Like, all socialism. Since Communism is just a more advanced form of socialism in my opinion and as somebody pointed out earlier, I also hate that. I simply suggest that if our region's main goal is to fight communism and totalitarianism then we should probably not have any countries of those types.

I understand why y'all hate Socialism. I myself disagree with it. The point I'm trying to make is that there is a huge difference between Socialism and Communism, and they shouldn't be interchanged.

Lack There Of wrote:As I said, my knowledge of the Spanish collectives is limited. My main source of knowledge on the subject is Eric Blair's (G. Orwell) a homage to catalonia and the related essays in which he described the complete mess of the republican government and the tragedies of the people.

I am uncertain of the legitimacy of these "statistics" seeing as how there could have been no true unbiased observers present during this time of transition. In addition, how could life expectancy have had such a huge extension over such a relatively short period of time?

BBC is unbiased.

Miencraft wrote:I think all of us true Libertatemians (did we establish a term for us? Libertatemites? Libertatemers? Libertaters? I like that last one) can agree that Communism, which, for the pleasure of the folks in red, encompasses all of the far-left, is a failure. Plain and simple.

Doesn't work.

See: Soviet Union 1980s-1990s.

The end.

Unless, of course, someone else has an opinion, because I absolutely can't speak for everyone. And I don't intend to. So please, someone else speak. I don't like having the last word unless it's something spectacularly brilliant.

Again, that IS NOT Communism! It is State Socialism.

Vardakia wrote:

Again, that IS NOT Communism! It is State Socialism.

See the part earlier where I said that political correctness is dumb and that we can use the umbrella term of Communism to cover all far-left ideals.

By far left, of course, I mean reallly far left.

Oh hey fellow sociali...

Nevermind... hardcore communists :P *forced smile accompanied with an unconvincing attempt at a friendly wave*

Stay away from my state! *hisssss*

Miencraft wrote:See the part earlier where I said that political correctness is dumb and that we can use the umbrella term of Communism to cover all far-left ideals.

Thing is... in many ways "Utopian" Communism is closer to Anarchism than Capitalism is. Soviet/"Cold War" Communism is, if anything, closest to fascism.

They're polar opposites when it comes to how equally the power is distributed. It's not fair to ignore the difference between laissez faire capitalism under a monarch and anarchism. Equally, it's not fair to ignore the difference between "Utopian" Communism and "Soviet" Communism.

Pax Osca wrote:

They're polar opposites when it comes to how equally the power is distributed. It's not fair to ignore the difference between laissez faire capitalism under a monarch and anarchism. Equally, it's not fair to ignore the difference between "Utopian" Communism and "Soviet" Communism.

Eh, I'm gonna ignore the difference anyways because, frankly, we're not required to observe the difference, as it's more convenient for us to simply disregard any and all differences.

Miencraft wrote:Eh, I'm gonna ignore the difference anyways because, frankly, we're not required to observe the difference, as it's more convenient for us to simply disregard any and all differences.

Ok fascist-monarchy of Meincraft :3

What? There's no difference, right?

Commie has a point.

Me, I see socialism as akin to fascism. I despise socialists and fascists. I see communism as akin to anarchism. I see anarchists and communists as overidealistic, but generally good-natured.

Question to the heavy leftists;

Do you consider Keynes a capitalist? And if so why?

To put it in a very blunt, and to some highly offensive way;

Communists are naive idealists...

Anarchists are just plain deluded :P

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Commie has a point.

Me, I see socialism as akin to fascism. I despise socialists and fascists. I see communism as akin to anarchism. I see anarchists and communists as overidealistic, but generally good-natured.

How is Socialism akin to fascism? Fascism is a form of government that places you somewhere along the scale of liberal/oppressive. Socialism is an economic concept, and hence on the economic left/right scale...

There is no unified fascist economical system. Equally, there is no unified socialist government type...

I'm confused as to how it's even possible to draw comparisons between the two...(?)

The BBC is far from unbiased. It's frequently abused its privileged position to manipulate information and misinform people.

Isn't socialism just watered-down communism? Workers control of the means of production plus currency and minus utopian delusions.

Fascism is a pretty close cousin of state socialism, if not just a slightly altered carnation. Its goal is state control in every form, but places more emphasis on racial purity rather than economic tyranny, although it accomplishes that to quite a degree as well. Corporatism has been most commonly applied in fascist states, with some undertaking more traditional social democratic/state socialist domestic programs, like Mussolini's Italy.

So Beetlejuice was a good movie...

So I am Zarden's new main account so yeah

Post self-deleted by The Time Alliance.

Hello everyone. I am The Time Alliance. I'm A person who is classified as a centrist.

I have Leftist views on Economy

Right wing views on Social, and Political issues.

I'm a Left Libertarian on the political compass at about -4,-3

And Somehow In one day I was banned from 4 regions.

You represent what I used to be, then ;)

Welcome to Libertatem. I think you'll like it here, and we hope you stay.

It looks like a nation who fits the bill for the DRP has arrived.

There's no getting through to you people... Your all extremly stubborn.

@ Crazy socialist who doesn't respect other peoples beliefes and calls the deluded crazy idealists (Pax Osca)

Why are you here?

Hey, don't pin me with them. My views have changed in the last few months.

Vardakia wrote:There's no getting through to you people... Your all extremly stubborn.

@ Crazy socialist who doesn't respect other peoples beliefes and calls the deluded crazy idealists (Pax Osca)

Why are you here?

Would you like to know why? What do you think Libertatem means?

Pax Osca wrote:To put it in a very blunt, and to some highly offensive way;

Communists are naive idealists...

Anarchists are just plain deluded :P

How is Socialism akin to fascism? Fascism is a form of government that places you somewhere along the scale of liberal/oppressive. Socialism is an economic concept, and hence on the economic left/right scale...

There is no unified fascist economical system. Equally, there is no unified socialist government type...

I'm confused as to how it's even possible to draw comparisons between the two...(?)

1. please respect my views and oppinion, as I respect yours.

2. All political changed must be followed by an economic one. Communism leads to Anarchism, and Anarchism leads to Communism. Both being solutions to economic equality and self managment by the people.

Vardakia wrote:1. please respect my views and oppinion, as I respect yours.

2. All political changed must be followed by an economic one. Communism leads to Anarchism, and Anarchism leads to Communism. Both being solutions to economic equality and self managment by the people.

How does Anarchism and Communism lead to each other..WHEN they are on completely different sides of the Political Spectrum...

Vardakia wrote:1. please respect my views and oppinion, as I respect yours.

Both being solutions to economic equality

Economic equality cannot naturally function.

It just can't.

It's about skill, usually. You're more skilled, naturally you get paid more. You're unskilled, well, tough luck, now I'm paying you next to nothing because you're crap at what you do.

Thus, income equality has no place in the natural order of everything, and cannot function simply because that's just not how it works.

As a result, Communism does not work.

The end.

Libertatem is Latin for Liberty. So, we may not be so open to accept state socialism or communism or whatever, I don't really know anymore, but everyone here should at least keep some decorum and respect the opinions of others.

Miencraft wrote:Economic equality cannot naturally function.

It just can't.

It's about skill, usually. You're more skilled, naturally you get paid more. You're unskilled, well, tough luck, now I'm paying you next to nothing because you're crap at what you do.

Thus, income equality has no place in the natural order of everything, and cannot function simply because that's just not how it works.

As a result, Communism does not work.

The end.

1. It can function correctly if done right and done in the right situation.

2. This part about skill is usually true.

3.Communism can work (When it is Leninism or Marxism.)

4. It doesn't work when it is Stalinism/Maoism/whatever other crazy form of communism is out there

The Time Alliance wrote:1. It can function correctly if done right and done in the right situation.

2. This part about skill is usually true.

3.Communism can work (When it is Leninism or Marxism.)

4. It doesn't work when it is Stalinism/Maoism/whatever other crazy form of communism is out there

Goddammitisaidtheendpleasethanks

1. Thing is though, there really isn't a way to do it right, and there's no right situation for it. There's just no place for it in the way things run.

2. Yep.

3. For a short time, then it just falls apart because it doesn't work. (See: USSR, which, admittedly, was a lot of different things, but it still came apart mostly because someone deleted the country's system32)

4. Aren't they all kind of crazy though

So apparently Kalashnikov is dead.

Miencraft wrote:Goddammitisaidtheendpleasethanks

1. Thing is though, there really isn't a way to do it right, and there's no right situation for it. There's just no place for it in the way things run.

2. Yep.

3. For a short time, then it just falls apart because it doesn't work. (See: USSR, which, admittedly, was a lot of different things, but it still came apart mostly because someone deleted the country's system32)

4. Aren't they all kind of crazy though

1. Once again it can if done right...It won't be totally equal but almost perfect equality can be done right. (Again I'm not against Capitalism. I'm Pro-Capitalist and Pro-Socialist)

3.USSR fell apart under Stalinism. Not Leninism or Marxism

4. Not true communism (Leninism and Marxism)

The Time Alliance wrote:1. Once again it can if done right...It won't be totally equal but almost perfect equality can be done right. (Again I'm not against Capitalism. I'm Pro-Capitalist and Pro-Socialist)

3.USSR fell apart under Stalinism. Not Leninism or Marxism

4. Not true communism (Leninism and Marxism)

Goddamitisaidtheendpleasethanks

I have a feeling this is gonna keep going back and forth like this for a while.

So, let's just grab some AK's and think about 'em for a while.

Official Statement from the Office of the Chairman

The Board has deliberated and the Government of Libertatem will be undergoing a Federal Holiday from December 24 - December 27. Soldiers will monitor the region and there will be a password in place to defend the region. No legislation will be passed and the government will not be active. Nations may still post on the RMB, there will be no restrictions on you, but the government will cease to run for three days in observation of Christmas. On behalf of the Board and the Managers, Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good three day break from NationStates.

Yours in Liberty,

[nation=short]Humpheria[/nation]

Chairman of the Board

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