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Humpheria wrote:I, like, really like you, monsieur.

Je viens juste de vous rencontrer, mais vous semblez comme un homme bon.

Cite De Saint Michele wrote:Je viens juste de vous rencontrer, mais vous semblez comme un homme bon.

Je m'appelle Humpy, au Jake. Et toi?

Well I hope we've all learned a valuable lesson. Learn other languages. Anyone want to learn Russian with me?

I'll learn russian! Russia is awesome!

Humpheria wrote:Je m'appelle Humpy, au Jake. Et toi?

Mon nom est (My name is) Gilles (English phonics: geel-ay).

Liberosia wrote:Well I hope we've all learned a valuable lesson. Learn other languages. Anyone want to learn Russian with me?

Being bi-lingual is great!

Cite De Saint Michele wrote:Mon nom est (My name is) Gilles (English phonics: geel-ay).

When I studied in Bordeaux, my exchange brother's little brother was named Gilles. I love that name. Much better than Gaston, his name.

Humpheria wrote:When I studied in Bordeaux, my exchange brother's little brother was named Gilles. I love that name. Much better than Gaston, his name.

It's a popular Aquitanian name. I think it is a great name, sounds exotic. American girls love it.

The Amarican Empire wrote:I'll learn russian! Russia is awesome!

It's a major world power

Cite De Saint Michele wrote:It's a popular Aquitanian name. I think it is a great name, sounds exotic. American girls love it.

That is true with every foreign name. La filles de la francais j'adore Jake.

Liberosia wrote:It's a major world power

That it is.

Humpheria wrote:That is true with every foreign name. La filles de la francais j'adore Jake.

Oui, moi j'adore Jake, aussi!

Cite De Saint Michele wrote:Oui, moi j'adore Jake, aussi!

Merci!

Guys, pardon the intrusion, but I must ask the region, and I hope this spurs a debate, a question. Between China, Russia, and Arabic nations, each with their respective languages, of those three which is the better language to learn? I'd like to hear all of your comments on those countries, and the advantages and disadvantages of learning the languages of those countries.

Liberosia wrote:Guys, pardon the intrusion, but I must ask the region, and I hope this spurs a debate, a question. Between China, Russia, and Arabic nations, each with their respective languages, of those three which is the better language to learn? I'd like to hear all of your comments on those countries, and the advantages and disadvantages of learning the languages of those countries.

There are a lot of Arabic immigrants in France. I don't like the language. To be frank, I don't like any of those languages.

Liberosia wrote:Guys, pardon the intrusion, but I must ask the region, and I hope this spurs a debate, a question. Between China, Russia, and Arabic nations, each with their respective languages, of those three which is the better language to learn? I'd like to hear all of your comments on those countries, and the advantages and disadvantages of learning the languages of those countries.

Chinese would be most beneficial, for business purposes and the such.

Well I am assuming China will collapse soon. The Arabic world will end up killing itself so I would say russian.

What do you think of my new flag?

The Serbian Empire wrote:What do you think of my new flag?

I love it

Liberosia wrote:I love it

And best yet, it's true that Communists died from starvation in the USSR.

Liberosia wrote:Guys, pardon the intrusion, but I must ask the region, and I hope this spurs a debate, a question. Between China, Russia, and Arabic nations, each with their respective languages, of those three which is the better language to learn? I'd like to hear all of your comments on those countries, and the advantages and disadvantages of learning the languages of those countries.

I suppose it would depend on what career field you intend to go into

The Serbian Empire wrote:And best yet, it's true that Communists died from starvation in the USSR.

Yeah, but sadly it wasn't just the communists, but the enslaved Kulaks that took a lot of the heat.

Lack There Of wrote:I suppose it would depend on what career field you intend to go into

True

Liberosia wrote:Yeah, but sadly it wasn't just the communists, but the enslaved Kulaks that took a lot of the heat.

True

Damn those Soviets with the poor food distribution.

The Serbian Empire wrote:Damn those Soviets with the poor food distribution.

I mean, a lot of it was intentional.

Liberosia wrote:I mean, a lot of it was intentional.

As to maximize profits to the buffer states like Poland and etc.

http://mises.org/daily/5590/AnarchoSyndicalism-A-Recipe-for-Ruin

Liberosia wrote:http://mises.org/daily/5590/AnarchoSyndicalism-A-Recipe-for-Ruin

Yeah, they might be the most troubling form of anarchist as it's a free for all.

Liberosia wrote:http://mises.org/daily/5590/AnarchoSyndicalism-A-Recipe-for-Ruin

One of my favorite things to hear from syndicalists is the "victories" of the Spanish anarchists during the civil war. Not that I sympathize with the fascists what so ever, but we will never no what was lost due the efforts of the revolutionaries on the left . Political in-fighting, and international sabotage aside, if the republican forces had allowed production to stay in private hands and not scared off western powers with communist rantings there is a strong possibility they could have won against the fascists. If this had been the case, Spain would be in an entirely different position as then it is today.

Lack There Of wrote:One of my favorite things to hear from syndicalists is the "victories" of the Spanish anarchists during the civil war. Not that I sympathize with the fascists what so ever, but we will never no what was lost due the efforts of the revolutionaries on the left . Political in-fighting, and international sabotage aside, if the republican forces had allowed production to stay in private hands and not scared off western powers with communist rantings there is a strong possibility they could have won against the fascists. If this had been the case, Spain would be in an entirely different position as then it is today.

Spain might not be experiencing that unemployment problem right now.

The Serbian Empire wrote:Spain might not be experiencing that unemployment problem right now.

Spain might not be experiencing this entirely incompetent and outmoded system of government right now. Imagine a Spain that's had a century under a stable republican system as opposed to the turmoil produced by Franco and the incompetence displayed by the reinstated monarchy.

Lack There Of wrote:Spain might not be experiencing this entirely incompetent and outmoded system of government right now. Imagine a Spain that's had a century under a stable republican system as opposed to the turmoil produced by Franco and the incompetence displayed by the reinstated monarchy.

Spain would be rich... very rich.

Think how rich Britain would be if it girl rid of its monarchy.

My point being that the instability caused by Anarcho-syndacism was one of the big reason republican forces lost the war and any claims of increased "productivity" during war time in regions controlled by syndicates should be treated with utmost suspicion.

Lack the savior of the people.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Think how rich Britain would be if it girl rid of its monarchy.

I think the UK would have not been much richer as it wasn't an absolute monarchy after a certain point. Lord North was the problem which made the US rebel and not King George. Spain being ran by Fascists on the other hand wouldn't be good economically.

I think Washington helped create the nation through all the precedents he set (starting with actually not becoming a dictator, but he was also a hypocrite who betrayed his own principles in the interests of "strengthening the nation". The same guy who rebelled against England for enacting a 2% tax on tea ended up murdering four people for not complying with a 25% tax on whiskey. He also dealt a blow to states' rights by signing the Fugitive Slave Act, and sold the country down the river with the First Bank of the United States. And Humph is correct about his military record; it is overrated and in some cases dishonourable. He had as many failures as he had successes, and some historians even think he was responsible for the Great Fire of New York.

So yeah, he was pretty good in some respects, but still not great.

I want some consensus on this. Can I put it to vote?

Deportation Constitutional Amendment

The Founder, President or other designated official may eject and ban any nation, that is not a citizen or former citizen, deemed an enemy combatant. An enemy combatant may be classified as any nation or player that seeks to intentionally harm the region through military actions, espionage or any other activity that is deliberately destructive against the region.

Changes

Article VII

Subsection IV

Every nation has a right to represent him or herself in a trial or case when banjection is considered. If the case is made to the founder and on the Regional Message Board using legal authority, suppression will not follow.

to

Subsection IV

Every citizen nation or former citizen nation has a right to represent him or herself in a trial or case when banjection is considered. If the case is made to the founder and on the Regional Message Board using legal authority, suppression will not follow.

The DC Amendment looks good to me. Perhaps we could call it the Deportation Of Opposing Renegades Amendment? That way we could tell enemy combatants that we're showing them the DOOR.

Pevvania wrote:I want some consensus on this. Can I put it to vote?

Deportation Constitutional Amendment

The Founder, President or other designated official may eject and ban any nation, that is not a citizen or former citizen, deemed an enemy combatant. An enemy combatant may be classified as any nation or player that seeks to intentionally harm the region through military actions, espionage or any other activity that is deliberately destructive against the region.

Changes

Article VII

Subsection IV

Every nation has a right to represent him or herself in a trial or case when banjection is considered. If the case is made to the founder and on the Regional Message Board using legal authority, suppression will not follow.

to

Subsection IV

Every citizen nation or former citizen nation has a right to represent him or herself in a trial or case when banjection is considered. If the case is made to the founder and on the Regional Message Board using legal authority, suppression will not follow.

I would like to put this to a vote.

The Board has passed the adoption of Parliamentary Procedure and Board Officers. The officers are as follows:

Sergeant-at-Arms, second in command - Godisdead

Secretary, keeps record of every vote - Baphometus

Press Secretary, briefs the region on results of votes - Amarican Empire

Right-Winged Nation wrote:I would like to put this to a vote.

Seconded

Well I got the short end of that stick.

Baphometus wrote:Well I got the short end of that stick.

Sorry, you're the one that is knowledgeable enough to do that.

Well look at this, the Board is up and moving.

So, Das Kommune is recruiting Kraanei into TRF.

Humpheria wrote:So, Das Kommune is recruiting Kraanei into TRF.

Hmmm

Humpheria wrote:Sorry, you're the one that is knowledgeable enough to do that.

Urgh

Humpheria wrote:So, Das Kommune is recruiting Kraanei into TRF.

...

Not our problem.

Voluntary association is the cornerstone of libertarianism.

So, who is going to put up a poll for Pev's ammendements?

Also, Godisdead has been RMB Blocked, for some non-apparent reason, so, should you need to reach him, tgs.

Humpheria wrote:Also, Godisdead has been RMB Blocked, for some non-apparent reason, so, should you need to reach him, tgs.

Did he say something offensive?

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Did he say something offensive?

No, it is an extension of his brother's ban.

Humpheria wrote:No, it is an extension of his brother's ban.

Oh

Why do the mods hate hallo so much?

The Amarican Empire wrote:Why do the mods hate hallo so much?

[joke]Because I'm gay[/joke]

I think the mods may be from Texas.

Stop with the mod-hating guys. That never ends well.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:The DC Amendment looks good to me. Perhaps we could call it the Deportation Of Opposing Renegades Amendment? That way we could tell enemy combatants that we're showing them the DOOR.

That's a point

Right-Winged Nation wrote:I think the mods may be from Texas.

Or New York. Despite the fact that "progressives" are in control there, anti-gay laws there are some of the strictest in the nation.

Pevvania wrote:I think Washington helped create the nation through all the precedents he set (starting with actually not becoming a dictator, but he was also a hypocrite who betrayed his own principles in the interests of "strengthening the nation". The same guy who rebelled against England for enacting a 2% tax on tea ended up murdering four people for not complying with a 25% tax on whiskey. He also dealt a blow to states' rights by signing the Fugitive Slave Act, and sold the country down the river with the First Bank of the United States. And Humph is correct about his military record; it is overrated and in some cases dishonourable. He had as many failures as he had successes, and some historians even think he was responsible for the Great Fire of New York.

So yeah, he was pretty good in some respects, but still not great.

the difference was the tax on whiskey was by Americans to Americans. The tax on tea was a tax by the British on Americans.

The Amarican Empire wrote:the difference was the tax on whiskey was by Americans to Americans. The tax on tea was a tax by the British on Americans.

It's why the Whiskey Rebellion collapsed on itself as taxation with representation is a lot more effective than taxation without representation.

Pevvania wrote:That's a point

Woohoo, now I have three points

Hm. But if we count "of" as a lowercase word, that would just make it the DOR Amendment. Deportation of Outstandingly Oppositional Renegades Amendment?

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Hm. But if we count "of" as a lowercase word, that would just make it the DOR Amendment. Deportation of Outstandingly Oppositional Renegades Amendment?

Or, you could count "Amendment" and call it "DORA"

Miencraft wrote:Or, you could count "Amendment" and call it "DORA"

Or change Renegades to Militants, and make it DOMA. tee-hee

Hermesgrad wrote:hello

Welcome to Libertatem, Hermesgrad.

Pevvania wrote:Welcome to Libertatem, Hermesgrad.

thanks :)

so what goes on around here?

We talk about stuff. And raid stuff. And do both at the same time.

Hermesgrad wrote:so what goes on around here?

We discuss real world politics, debate in-game politics, and raid commies and fascists.

Hermesgrad wrote:so what goes on around here?

It's a Centrist and Right-Libertarian region that discusses politics, vote on legislation, and occasionally raid commies. This region is just as much anti-Communist as Libertarian.

We also like to pass legislation

Right-Winged Nation wrote:We also like to pass legislation

i gathered haha

sounds good. do you have to be a citizen before you join a party?

Hermesgrad wrote:i gathered haha

sounds good. do you have to be a citizen before you join a party?

No, but you have to be a citizen to vote for and hold public office.

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Communazis.

Communazis everywhere.

Hermesgrad wrote:i gathered haha

sounds good. do you have to be a citizen before you join a party?

Hermesgrad wrote:i gathered haha

sounds good. do you have to be a citizen before you join a party?

No, I joined the RLP and I wasn't a citizen.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Communazis.

Communazis everywhere.

What region is full of Stalins/Communazis?

The Serbian Empire wrote:What region is full of Stalins/Communazis?

North Korea.

Granted, they are more like Kimjongunazis.

if you guys dont like commies why do you have a political party?

Hermesgrad wrote:if you guys dont like commies why do you have a political party?

Because it's good to have an opposing view.

Hermesgrad wrote:if you guys dont like commies why do you have a political party?

To prove that Libertatem will accept everyone regardless of ideology, unlike The Internationale.

Hermesgrad wrote:if you guys dont like commies why do you have a political party?

Freedom of assembly, and the parties are privatized. Anyone can start one.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:North Korea.

Granted, they are more like Kimjongunazis.

I think they Noppa Gangnam Style

cool, seems like a decent region.

The Serbian Empire wrote:I think they Noppa Gangnam Style

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll268/phoenixbacklash/2nd%20Album/ROFLMAO.jpg

everything is so organised, i love it.

Hermesgrad wrote:everything is so organised, i love it.

The private sector is efficient shyt.

Fun fact: it appears that the Libertarian Party actually holds some solid achievements. According to Wikipedia, Dick Randolph, Alaska State Representative and the first Libertarian to be elected to partisan office, championed the elimination of the Alaska state income tax, "who persuaded his fellow legislators to pass the bill after mounting an initiative to force a public vote should the legislature not act." He also helped to create the Alaska Permanent Fund.

i like Alaska, id like to visit the tundra sum day.

Naturally.

My friend, Belmaria, the leader of The Hyatt Islands, actually works for the Libertarian Party on some stuff in Virginia (I recall).

Pevvania wrote:Fun fact: it appears that the Libertarian Party actually holds some solid achievements. According to Wikipedia, Dick Randolph, Alaska State Representative and the first Libertarian to be elected to partisan office, championed the elimination of the Alaska state income tax, "who persuaded his fellow legislators to pass the bill after mounting an initiative to force a public vote should the legislature not act." He also helped to create the Alaska Permanent Fund.

Impressive.

Here's an interesting history of state-local tax burdens over time here: http://taxfoundation.org/article/annual-state-local-tax-burden-ranking-fy-2011

The real thorn in the LP's side is *dundun* the Republicans, who try to "legally" subvert the Libertarian Party because of the party "siphoning" votes off the Republicans and potentially costing them elections.

However, some Republicans have allied with the Libertarian Party, most notably Joe Miller of Alaska, a Tea Party rep.

http://www.adn.com/article/20130316/miller-warns-alaska-libertarians-civil-war-still-deciding-senate-run

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I wish that the Republican, Libertarian, and Constitution Party's formed a Coalition.

Libertarians are arguably one of the Republicans dependent voter blocks, and alongside the Christian Right, Rockefeller Republicans, the Tea Party, and other factions, and arguably make up about 15-20% of the Republic Party, or one fifth.

sooo the labour party, whats up with that eh?

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Libertarians are arguably one of the Republicans dependent voter blocks, and alongside the Christian Right, Rockefeller Republicans, the Tea Party, and other factions, and arguably make up about 15-20% of the Republic Party, or one fifth.

In some places like Indiana, the libertarians may be as much as 25% of the Republican Party with the Christian Right being the main wheel. Michigan has a lot of those Rockefeller kind.

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