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This is not satire
In a Past post i thought i told you guys its not he paul party anymore. Its the Republican Tea Party.
Radical Centrist...okay, you've got a hold on your politics.
History would disagree with you (also, like, logic). I am showing you the political principle of each system: property rights or State control. That's it; economics is a study of human actions. Economic systems are about political economy and political principles. Yes, there are many different "forms" of statism but they're all ultimately operating under the same political principle (as opposed to capitalism.) Again, only two FUNDAMENTAL alternatives.
*bows to a fellow comrade*
*Cringe*
Thank you.
Look It isn't Just This or This. There are Degrees. Just as it isn't Capitalism or Communism.
Are you familiar with how living organisms are classified in biology?
6 Ways. Kingdoms.
Inside each Kingdom is a Phylum, Class, Order, Family, Genus, Species....
The bible: 25 million deaths.
Good. Now imagine Philosophy as the Kingdom
Politics/the Government (or as I like to refer to it, the "State") vs. Anarchism as the Phylums
and under the Phylum "Politics" there is a property rights based government (minarchism/free markets/laissez faire/capitalism) vs. Statism
Under Statism, however far down you go, there will be different types of government (fascist, communist, mixed economy, etc.) but they are fundamentally different from laissez faire, and are all ultimately of the same Class.
Do you follow?
.....
Crusades were an Insult to religion. Obviously the Muslims were in the right in that war.
Ohh I don't know about that. I'm not defending either, but the Muslims aren't good and did A LOT of expansion and slaughter.
Crusades where both sides fault with the Muslims invading Spain with caused the Catholics to kick them out of Spain. Then for some reason they thought that they could get them out of Israel but that was a miserable failure.
Okay.
Kingdom: Philosophy
Phylum: Government and Anarchy
Class: Property rights v. Statism
Order: Minarchy, Free Markets, Leave Alone, *Capitalism is truly LF* They ain't separate entities vs. Fascist ,Communist, Mixed Economics (Though this is more middle than statism)
Family: National Socialism, Socialism, Ect...
Genus: Maoism, Stalinism, Marxism....Ect...
Species: Every Specific Ideology?
Muslims saved Europe from intellectual Depression.
Fine
Roughly, yes
They sure did.
No these were people who god murdered.
Okay thought so.
God did not come down from the heavens and stab them...
Were do you get the number 25 Million from?
Crusades.
Not from the Bible for sure. Of all the times I have read it never have I seen a body count of the dead in the Bible.
The crusades are not in the Bible.
Why did he say Bible then?
The Bible started a Religion that Started the Crusades...
Nor did the Bible support them.
Yes the book of the religion started the religion. Just like there were no communists before the communist manifesto. so by ttas "logic" a book starts an idea.
What about the towns god destroyed because they didn't believe in god?
It's not that they didn't believe. It's that they were too wicked.
Yes.
Saddam and Gemore, He destroyed them because they where very wicked people no because they didn't believe in him. If he only destroyed towns that didn't believe in him the at that time 99.9% of all populated towns would have been decimated.
Tta a book is a record of data, early christians wrote down the bible. So they had to believe it. Therefore the religion started before the bible. So the book did not make the religion that made the crusades. Also the war that took place in the crusades would of happened anyway. Religion was just an excuse.
I know. My logic was for once very very very very flawed.
It's not the first time
Yes. It us.
Anyone here in the NS Senate?
It's not that they didn't believe, it's that they were full of wickedness and sin. (i.e. Sodom & Gommorah)
I am. Libertarian Party.
If today was like the old testament which us cities woulf be struck down?
Have you heard about the change to the New country?
Maybe. Definitely San Fransico, and Vegas
Actually it wasn't even written until about 300 years after Jesus actually supposedly was alive.
No that's the KJV version (when it got translated into English)
What is the NS Senate?
It's some RP thing. I think TTA could explain it better.
Anyway, how do you guys like the quote on my flag.
An RP that is in a transitional phase. Telegram my real nation
It's definitely a quote.
Well that could be a possible solution, I would not oppose letting the free market take its course. However, the government has determined what minimum wage is, that is why we are having this conversation. I would have no problem if. Companies would be able to choose what pay was
Play Jimi Hendrix.
Wonderful! Wonderful! by Johnny Mathis
Fav 5 Jimi songs:
1. Watchtower
2. Wind Cries Mary
3. Little Wing
4. Crosstown Traffic
5. Hey Joe
I'm not a huge fan of Purple Haze tbh although it's regarded as his best song I think there are better songs than it
Scumbag Anonymous wants you to go out and take your freedom as they sit behind their computers
I like purple haze, but it isn't his best song. Did you know that all along the watch tower was originally bob dylan's song?
Yeah I knew that and I think Jimi's version is the superior one and probably his best song in general
I would agree, Jimi was probably the greatest guitar player who ever lived.
I am mental....
HPD
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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wu5TrctGWo
Here ya go
I agree that in practicality Nazism was a form of socialism. Ideologically, there is no question that Nazism is a socialist doctrine. As you may recall reading in The Road to Serfdom, it was formes in Germany in the early 20th Century as a fusion between nationalistic strands of thought and traditional socialism.
But practically, Nazi Germany was an autarkal corporatist state, which I'd put on the centre-left to left. TTA, the German economy was indeed planned. The state exercised de facto control of all property and all enterprises, of which only corporations connected to the state prospered. To the lazy onlooker, this might seem like some form of capitalism. But the two are very different beasts. Capitalism requires some degree of property rights protection, relatively free competition, some degree of voluntary exchange and mostly unsocialised profits and losses. Corporatism is neo-feudalistic in nature, and can only be built on state control and coercion. It's the planner's more politically viable alternative to full state socialism.
However, Hitler still wished to create a Soviet-style economy, presumably after the war. Mussolini actually succeeded at nationalising 75% of the Italian economy.
It's stimulus time! 300 recruitment TGs have been sent out.
You agree they were socialist. Let me help you out Pev. Nationalist Socialist Workers Party.
Jessie Ventura and Howard Stern all the way, Yay!
I saw that a while ago. While he may have convinced himself that the government caused 9/11, he is yet to educate himself about the state's market manipulations that led to the Great Recession.
The thing with Ventura, he did pretty decent with Minnesota. The problem is, he's a bit nuts. I'm sorry, but if you believe that 9/11 was an inside job, then there is just something wrong but I won't get into. Now Ventura does say some things that make sense, but overall he just doesn't seem like a logical person. I will probably not vote for him in the 2016 election, unless it's him and Hillary. I will take Ventura on that one
9/11 was caused by neglectence of information.
Yes I do believe I said they were socialist in the argument and switched over to Fascist Controlled Capitalism. Yes NAZI's were Socialists. A very fvcked up breed of Socialists but socialists. as id did some reading up on this after leaving y'all I did read about the Fascist Left and Fascist Right ideals. It was actually founded during World War I by Italian national syndicalists who combined left-wing and right-wing political views. Thus meaning it could a Facist Nation be elft or Right. However I did research on exactly how to look at a Political Spectrum and Found this:
Roderick Stackelberg places fascism—including Nazism, which he says is "a radical variant of fascism"—on the right, explaining that "the more a person deems absolute equality among all people to be a desirable condition, the further left he or she will be on the ideological spectrum. The more a person considers inequality to be unavoidable or even desirable, the further to the right he or she will be." This is actually how I look at the Spectrum which is why in my arguments Fascism is on the Far-Right. However looking at it from a view of Planned-Controlled-Mixed-Leave Alone It would be under controlled most fascist types which is why people might put it on the left side of the Spectrum given it isn't a completely planned economy but instead controlled Capitalism.
There was previous attack prior to 9/11, in which a securtity guard had warned that there were attacks being planned, but no one took notice. Precautions were not taken, though I don't see how you could have prepared for a planes crashing into buildings.
Woo!
Move the buildings Somewhere Else.
He had a mixed record as Governor. He cut taxes, but left some massive deficits behind due to his poor spending record. He also had an obsession with high-speed rail and other costly public projects. But honestly I don't think he had the intelligence, or the strength, to govern the state effectively. He changed his positions constantly, and didn't even have a position on many issues. He had a poor relationship with the legislature, and his agenda was very much piecemeal. I don't know why he gets so much attention, because he never knows what he's talking about. Here's a good article on why libertarians/paleoconservatives shouldn't support Ventura: http://www.christophercantwell.com/2013/10/27/please-im-begging-you-forget-jesse-ventura/
Yep. Ignorance in all branches of government allowed the attacks to happen.
Fascism and National Socialism are two very different beings. Well, ideologically they are quite similar, but they developed independently in two different countries. Here's Hayek's chapter from The Road to Serfdom on 'The Socialist Roots of Nazism': http://lamar.colostate.edu/~grjan/hayeknaziism.html
That interpretation of left-right is incredibly biased towards leftist thought. And it's also very hard to measure different ideologies using it. Anarcho-capitalism and fascism are not similar in any way - they're polar opposites. The statism/freedom scale is much more accurate, if a tad simplistic.
You tell them pev!
I'll read the chapter when I get to a computer..
I try not to use the spectrum itself....Going with the Political Compass or With the Horseshoe Spectrum or the Political Cube. But I think of the Spectrum as
Equal-Unequal Can I see the Freedom/Statist Scale please?
What are political freedoms? Are they anything but having a voice in controlling others' lives?
Yes.
Do explain
Well political freedoms are your freedom to influence the government. The Government in as such will always control at least one aspect of your life. Thus political freedoms are your freedom to influence someone's life.
So it is your "freedom" to infringe on others freedoms?
....No.
^ ...yes
So what your implying is because political freedoms infringe on other freedoms we shouldn't have them?
What are you getting at?
The phrase "political freedoms" is fairly misleading
Remember the Government does not only influence others lives but your own life.
Thus a Political Freedom is your freedom to influence the Government on how you want you and others to be influenced by the Government.
On my way to Montreal. ;-)
So Upon reading up on the Candidates for the Republican Primary I believe Ted Cruz and Rand Paul are the best ones.
Ok, so Rand Paul.
We the people are the sovereign of the us. The government serves us. We give the government it's power. Political freedoms are how much or how little power we allow the government to have. We can always tear it down.
Hulk Hogan 4 pres
Yes.
I'm goin either
Republican - Rand or Ted
Democrat- Bernie
or
Third Party
I see rand as a better choice.
I'm going to be there in two weeks on my way to France.
Ted Cruz? He is Canadian
Political freedom is an oxymoron. Politics is varying degrees of slavery.
Slavery that we must have...
So, guys. I will be pretty inactive on and off for the next two weeks. I'm going to DC to work for my congressman's central office and then I'm driving to Montreal and hopping a plane to Bordeaux and driving around France for a week and a half. I get to meet Sarkozy at an event in Paris. A bit of a neo-con, but still a great guy. So, yeah, don't expect me to be on a lot for awhile.
If that is your belief, then I have to points for you to consider:
1) I have the moral high ground and you believe in slavery
2) economic theory and history show that society can exist without slavery. The socio-political system? Free markets
1) Not non-consensual slavery. However I like consensual slavery and might one day do something like that for a week. And you'll normally have the high morale ground.
2) Wrong. Government is slavery. Without it there is Anarchy. Humanity can survive anarchy.
Can't survive Anarchy. My bad
I do not like Ted Cruz. He's narcissistic and alienating to most Americans. And he's extremely untrustworthy. A so-called "Tea Partier", he was a major Bush campaign aide that enjoys helping his own career by attacking Obama over every 'scandal' that comes his way. Cruz likes to criticise him for not obeying the law, but I haven't heard him speak out against the Bush Presidency like Rand Paul has done many times. He's a partisan, through and through.
I've heard many conservatives say that Paul/Cruz would be a dream ticket. Maybe so. But it's never going to happen. Paul is a careful and strategic politician; putting Cruz on the ticket in 2016 would alienate millions. I'm pretty certain that Marco Rubio will get the VP spot instead.
But wasn't humanity born in a state of anarchy?
No.....
Well unless your atheist.
And besides look at humanity at that time
Then see what happend when we added government. Cooperation came. Anarchic States ended.
1) what the hell? It's not truly slavery if it's consensual? Furthermore I don't consent to the State, and I am compelled by force to do certain things: slavery. Yes I do, thanks.
2) Anarchy is great, and the term does not equate to chaos. It can indeed if we embrace reason, logic, and science over faith, culture, and mysticism.
I don't recall a passage in the Bible reading "And then, on the Last Day, Government created Man."
As an atheist, I've actually read through parts of the Bible and other scriptures (because why not, right), and even according to them, the primal humans were without law.
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