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This year's NS Forum Contest is quite amusing.

Humpheria wrote:This year's NS Forum Contest is quite amusing.

How so?

It is a contest for the Sexiest NS'er of 2014.

Humpheria wrote:It is a contest for the Sexiest NS'er of 2014.

Ooh, I should compete

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Ooh, I should compete

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=304570&p=20934303&hilit=Sexiest+NS%27er+2014#p20934303

You have to post a picture. Isn't that one of your 'ew' things?

Everyone should invite at least one NSer to Libertatem. Or at least try. I looked around and found someone I've never even heard of before and invited him, but I don't know if he is coming yet. Together, we can add a lot of people.

Albenia wrote:NIckleback is awesome....

They have two good songs...

Burn it down

And Far Away

2 songs that are good does not make them a good band my friend. Plus their lead singer looks like a rapist.

Humpheria wrote:It is a contest for the Sexiest NS'er of 2014.

How would they even go about that?

OMG police brutality is really getting out of hand. This guy died after cops put him in a headlock simply for breaking up a fight.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8ae_1405660548

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:OMG police brutality is really getting out of hand. This guy died after cops put him in a headlock simply for breaking up a fight.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8ae_1405660548

But if the state didn't have a monopoly on retaliatory force then we would all be killing each other like animals because everyone knows officers of the state influence and enact moral policy. This is the price we pay for true freedom.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:2 songs that are good does not make them a good band my friend. Plus their lead singer looks like a rapist.

How would they even go about that?

1......I'm sorry. I am partial to it because it was a band my love liked before I lost...him...

2. By putting me on it.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:2 songs that are good does not make them a good band my friend. Plus their lead singer looks like a rapist.

How would they even go about that?

You post a picture of yourself and people vote on it.

Albenia wrote:1......I'm sorry. I am partial to it because it was a band my love liked before I lost...him...

2. By putting me on it.

Yeah, if he liked nickel back, he probably wasn't worth it.

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=liberosia/detail=factbook/id=281169

To be clear, I did not ask Liberosia to endorse me, he asked me questions. Anyone can ask me questions. I archive any telegram involving my campaign. I believe that anyone running for office should be an open book. But, I do thank Liberosia for his endorsement.

I for one hope Humph wins.....(If I'm not running against him)

Albenia wrote:I for one hope Humph wins.....(If I'm not running against him)

Surprising, but appreciated. Thanks TTA.

Pevvania wrote:If you were a leftist I'd seriously be laying the wood into you right now.

This is inaccurate. Anarcho-capitalism is the exact opposite of feudalism, which invests property rights in warlords and barbarians over the land that they conquer. So it's effectively very localised government. Anarcho-capitalism postulates that any unowned land that has been mixed with by an individual is automatically his, and that stolen property should immediately be returned to its rightful owners.

I'm actually using a particular argument...

Regardless, how could you entrust a corporation with respecting property rights? If we assume that corporations (and the individuals who control them) are motivated by their own self interests, wouldn't capitalism collapse on itself because of a select few firm's monopolization of the courts and police to only serve their interests (thereby recreating a precapitalist state in which serfs sell themselves out to a select few property owners)?

This is the Objectivist argument against anarchism, btw.

Humpheria wrote:Surprising, but appreciated. Thanks TTA.

No problem. We might Philosophically be atb odds but you are the best person for the job.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:I simply do not understand you. No matter what I do, whenever I run for anything or say anything you seem to appose it just to spite me. What do you hold against me? Why do you do this ALL THE TIME? THis coupled with the fact that I literally have the same traits you just described makes it clear to me that you just don't like me. And you'll post something explaining why I'm wrong in like 3 paragraphs of material when all it takes is a few sentences because that is what you do. So go ahead champ.

Thanks brah. For the record, though I philosophically disagree with you and most MPA members(the communist and socialist ones) I don't necessarily hate you guys. I feel like that's how it's come off in the past, just putting that out there.

Nickleback is so bad, just sayin

I will be out for a few hours just as an FYI, so I will respond to the certain slue of paragraphs Pev and others write back.

You've got it wrong, Grimes. I have nothing against you at all, and you're not a bad candidate. But I do want to swing this election because I think RWN is a very exciting candidate, while you are a familiar face who contests every one. And I only make big posts like that to address an ideological question, or when I'm arguing against a certain idea. Why would you take any of this personally?

Liberosia wrote:http://www.nationstates.net/nation=liberosia/detail=factbook/id=281169

"What is your position on the existence of the State? What should its primary functions be and what should its relationship to the individual and the population as a whole look like?

'Ideologically, I would love to see the State dissolved.'"

The truth comes out. Humps just another one of those damn anarchists. You think you know a guy...

I've been working on a roster for the Olympiad to represent our region in areas other than just politics. I've never been a good RPer, but still I get to have some fun with this.

Hump is perfect for the Presidency. He is Experienced, Responsible, Respectable, and Honest. He does not attack unless attacked and he gets on everyone's good side making him loved my everyone.

Lack There Of wrote:"What is your position on the existence of the State? What should its primary functions be and what should its relationship to the individual and the population as a whole look like?

'Ideologically, I would love to see the State dissolved.'"

The truth comes out. Humps just another one of those damn anarchists. You think you know a guy...

Hey! I kept it under wraps for almost a whole year. I think that at least deserves a prize.

Everytime RWN gets a vote, RRRG also gets a vote. Ugh.... I hate ties.

Humpheria wrote:Everytime RWN gets a vote, RRRG also gets a vote. Ugh.... I hate ties.

It's 9-7 though.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Hump is perfect for the Presidency. He is Experienced, Responsible, Respectable, and Honest. He does not attack unless attacked and he gets on everyone's good side making him loved my everyone.

This so very much.

Post self-deleted by Albenia.

Humpheria wrote:Hey! I kept it under wraps for almost a whole year. I think that at least deserves a prize.

One doge coin goes to hump for coming out of the anarchist closet. Please, take your prize sir, or don't. The decision is and ought to be completely yours to make.

http://media1.s-nbcnews.com/i/newscms/2014_08/202636/dogecoin_dce1cafbbbc0db017f839f11970703b8.jpg

....Darn Anarchists.....

Albenia wrote:It's 9-7 though.

No it isn't. It's 7-7, discounting non-citizen votes.

I think so, anyways. I'm going to check the register now.

That being said, I think both Serbian Empire and Indepident States have been here long enough to become actual citizens.

I encourage you two to go apply for citizenship so that you can have your votes counted. Not in this election, though. I don't like the idea of approving people in the middle of an election.

Miencraft wrote:No it isn't. It's 7-7, discounting non-citizen votes.

I think so, anyways. I'm going to check the register now.

Oh okay never mind....I've been focused on the constitution more than I have the registry.

Albenia wrote:Oh okay never mind....I've been focused on the constitution more than I have the registry.

That's why I'm IA manager and you aren't. :P

I don't care I frankly want this election over so I can appeal to get this nation legal citizenship so I can get some proposals of mine going.

Miencraft wrote:That's why I'm IA manager and you aren't. :P

Yeah I've been going through the constitution with Liberosia

If this goes to another tie...

Right-Winged Nation wrote:If this goes to another tie...

It won't, hopefully. By the way, your musings on consumption taxes are entirely true. Consumption taxes are known to be the least economically harmful form of taxation, with taxes on corporate income being the most harmful.

What time is Lib usually on EST?

Albenia wrote:What time is Lib usually on EST?

Nope, PST. He lives up in Cali.

Albenia wrote:What time is Lib usually on EST?

Late.

Pevvania wrote:You've got it wrong, Grimes. I have nothing against you at all, and you're not a bad candidate. But I do want to swing this election because I think RWN is a very exciting candidate, while you are a familiar face who contests every one. And I only make big posts like that to address an ideological question, or when I'm arguing against a certain idea. Why would you take any of this personally?

Sorry but I just can't believe you. Your reasoning isn't very good. "Exciting"? How?

Liberosia wrote:http://www.nationstates.net/nation=liberosia/detail=factbook/id=281169

Why are we even having an election? It's just a formality at this point. We all know who's going to win.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:Why are we even having an election? It's just a formality at this point. We all know who's going to win.

Yep, who could possibly beat Mr. T?

Pevvania wrote:It won't, hopefully. By the way, your musings on consumption taxes are entirely true. Consumption taxes are known to be the least economically harmful form of taxation, with taxes on corporate income being the most harmful.

Pevvania wrote:It won't, hopefully. By the way, your musings on consumption taxes are entirely true. Consumption taxes are known to be the least economically harmful form of taxation, with taxes on corporate income being the most harmful.

But alas, something is preventing that(government.)

Humpheria wrote:Yep, who could possibly beat Mr. T?

No! Not that.....Bastardization of Seeking Freedom for the people.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:Sorry but I just can't believe you. Your reasoning isn't very good. "Exciting"? How?

Why are we even having an election? It's just a formality at this point. We all know who's going to win.

The reason is that Pev...(for the most part) votes down Party lines....

2. BECAUSE EVEN IF THERE IS A SURE FIRE WAY HE'D GET ALL THE VOTES IT IS NOT REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE IF WE DON'T HAVE one.

Unrelated, who was it that started the LIC?

Oh, and http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=304475

Albenia wrote: 2. BECAUSE EVEN IF THERE IS A SURE FIRE WAY HE'D GET ALL THE VOTES IT IS NOT REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE IF WE DON'T HAVE one.

Hey man I'm just sayin

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:Hey man I'm just sayin

I like to imagine I screamed every word then almost whisperer the last one.

I'm bored; Someone go get Terenteum.

Godisdead wrote:I'm bored; Someone go get Terenteum.

He no here

I could cause some trouble if you want.

...sure..

I could too.

Many feminists think the greatest enemies to their cause are men. I'd like to disagree and say that women are their greatest enemy. There is quite the substantial group of women that think their rightful place is beside the man (i.e. conservative Christian women). A house divided cannot stand, or something like that. Nothing is going to get done fast enough if women are hindering the progress of other women.

I'm not taking either side, really. I'm just throwing this out there.

Welp thanks to Hallo's attitude at the moment the COIN (Experiments to fix problems of UCR and Libertatem) is becoming a mini dictatorship.

Hallo does not need power...

Didn't we say that when it first started?

Humpheria wrote:Didn't we say that when it first started?

Yeah.....

Speaking of which when it comes to real life I am an Anarchist in no way, but it seems on Nationstates I am a Pananarchist.

I think CI handled that situation rather well.

Humpheria wrote:I think CI handled that situation rather well.

He did.

Ya he called us terrorists tta. He is no better then harry reid on the ranch protest.

Rotgeheim wrote:Many feminists think the greatest enemies to their cause are men. I'd like to disagree and say that women are their greatest enemy. There is quite the substantial group of women that think their rightful place is beside the man (i.e. conservative Christian women). A house divided cannot stand, or something like that. Nothing is going to get done fast enough if women are hindering the progress of other women.

I'm not taking either side, really. I'm just throwing this out there.

Radical feminists then wonder why there are women opposed to feminism. There is no wonder it's called Social Conservatives.

I meant this single situation, not every single instance ever involving COIN.

TTA the Osama bin Laden of Libertatem :) jk

I was called a terrorist? What?

Sheesh, get with the program.

Rotgeheim wrote:Many feminists think the greatest enemies to their cause are men. I'd like to disagree and say that women are their greatest enemy. There is quite the substantial group of women that think their rightful place is beside the man (i.e. conservative Christian women). A house divided cannot stand, or something like that. Nothing is going to get done fast enough if women are hindering the progress of other women.

I'm not taking either side, really. I'm just throwing this out there.

I would say feminism is the greatest enemy of feminism.

Anakha, you, and I all commented on Libertatems War on communism which he considered it protest.

I was referring to those of us who were taking advantage of our distance from another region to protest behindĀ theirĀ backs, not this region as a whole, and my point stands.

For the record, while I do not agree with how they protested, I do not think any of them are terrorists.

Humpheria wrote:For the record, while I do not agree with how they protested, I do not think any of them are terrorists.

Well for a Non-Citizen I am currently doing all I can..

Which reminds me I hope Liberosia gets on soon so he can check the rewording I sent him....

Can I pretend that I only said that stuff to appease the Lord my hallo?

Okay. I've got a green light to amend. I just need to be a citizen.

Humpheria wrote:I think CI handled that situation rather well.

I could have handled it better.

Humpheria wrote:For the record, while I do not agree with how they protested, I do not think any of them are terrorists.

It's the method of their protest that concerns me. Instead of merely stating their discourse here, in public view, so that it can actually be fixed, Amarican and other residents of COIN decided instead to undermine this region's influence from abroad under the false guise of a moral majority. It was not responsible for them to do that, and I would go so far as to call it unethical.

The Amarican Empire wrote:Can I pretend that I only said that stuff to appease the Lord my hallo?

If you think it'll help your reputation. I'd probably think worse of you for it.

I mean the Lord my humpy of course. .

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:I could have handled it better.

It's the method of their protest that concerns me. Instead of merely stating their discourse here, in public view, so that it can actually be fixed, Amarican and other residents of COIN decided instead to undermine this region's influence from abroad under the false guise of a moral majority. It was not responsible for them to do that, and I would go so far as to call it unethical.

If you think it'll help your reputation. I'd probably think worse of you for it.

I was not involved in doing those methods of protest. I stated my griefs directly on this RMB.

*Whispers* Cause I have the balls to say it on here

Albenia wrote:Okay. I've got a green light to amend. I just need to be a citizen.

I don't think that's going to happen. You're banned, remember?

Give the details of your proposed amendment to a citizen you can trust, instead; we can get it into vote if a Libertatem citizen submits it.

Albenia wrote:I was not involved in doing those methods of protest. I stated my griefs directly on this RMB.

*Whispers* Cause I have the balls to say it on here

Understood. I'm pleased that you have the initiative to submit a detailed request for reform.

What is COIN an acronym for?

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:I don't think that's going to happen. You're banned, remember?

Give the details of your proposed amendment to a citizen you can trust, instead; we can get it into vote if a Libertatem citizen submits it.

I am just waiting for an appeal, but your right. I don't know how long till my appeal takes place (ASAP hopefully) so I need to have someone propose it for me.

Coalition of Independent Nations

Liberosia wrote:What is COIN an acronym for?

Confederation (Coalition/Commonwealth?) of Independent Nations

Albenia wrote:I was not involved in doing those methods of protest. I stated my griefs directly on this RMB.

*Whispers* Cause I have the balls to say it on here

you mean things i told you in private, then you told me to post it on this RMB and i decided not too so you wanted to post it.

The Amarican Empire wrote: Coalition of Independent Nations

AKA "I just slapped a bunch of fancy words together to make my region sound important!"

The Amarican Empire wrote:you mean things i told you in private, then you told me to post it on this RMB and i decided not too so you wanted to post it.
...Yep

Godisdead wrote:AKA "I just slapped a bunch of fancy words together to make my region sound important!"

Godisdead wrote:AKA "I just slapped a bunch of fancy words together to make my region sound important!"

Godisdead wrote:AKA "I just slapped a bunch of fancy words together to make my region sound important!"

Godisdead wrote:AKA "I just slapped a bunch of fancy words together to make my region sound important!"

Godisdead wrote:AKA "I just slapped a bunch of fancy words together to make my region sound important!"

Godisdead wrote:AKA "I just slapped a bunch of fancy words together to make my region sound important!"

no thats just the name of the region.

Godisdead wrote:AKA "I just slapped a bunch of fancy words together to make my region sound important!"

Yes hahaha

The Amarican Empire wrote:no thats just the name of the region.

Exactly.

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:I could have handled it better.

It's the method of their protest that concerns me. Instead of merely stating their discourse here, in public view, so that it can actually be fixed, Amarican and other residents of COIN decided instead to undermine this region's influence from abroad under the false guise of a moral majority. It was not responsible for them to do that, and I would go so far as to call it unethical.

If you think it'll help your reputation. I'd probably think worse of you for it.

its my damaged reputation and the time i will need to rebuild it that i retired from regional politics.

Dude. If your reputation is damaged and people dislike you. Who cares? That never stopped me.

The Workers dislike Amarican!

Albenia wrote:Dude. If your reputation is damaged and people dislike you. Who cares? That never stopped me.

And now you're waiting for an appeal, hoping that by some miracle we'll let you back in. That approach has gotten you nowhere. Amarican is wise to seek to rebuild his reputation first; it's what I would do if I committed as grave an error.

The Hero Of The Proletariat wrote:The Workers dislike Amarican!

Beat it, buddy. We'll handle the discipline on our own, thank you.

The Hero Of The Proletariat wrote:The Workers dislike Amarican!

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HANG ON A SECOND!

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:And now you're waiting for an appeal, hoping that by some miracle we'll let you back in. That approach has gotten you nowhere. Amarican is wise to seek to rebuild his reputation first; it's what I would do if I committed as grave an error.

If you commit an error. Don't wait to rebuild your reputation. Fix the error.

I left. Hurt my reputation. Realized what happened. So what am I doing now? Fixing the error.

Albenia wrote:If you commit an error. Don't wait to rebuild your reputation. Fix the error.

I left. Hurt my reputation. Realized what happened. So what am I doing now? Fixing the error.

Indeed, but the fact that you left wasn't the error. You were banned from Libertatem for a reason.

Anyway, that's a whole different discussion, and one I'm pretty sure we've already had.

The Hero Of The Proletariat wrote:The Workers dislike Amarican!

I thought this was TTA's alter ego

Conservative Idealism In Libertatem wrote:Indeed, but the fact that you left wasn't the error. You were banned from Libertatem for a reason.

Anyway, that's a whole different discussion, and one I'm pretty sure we've already had.

If I hadn't left I doubt I would've been banned.

Lack There Of wrote:I thought this was TTA's alter ego

...It is. That is an Impersonator.

Albenia wrote:If you commit an error. Don't wait to rebuild your reputation. Fix the error.

I left. Hurt my reputation. Realized what happened. So what am I doing now? Fixing the error.

You dont stay in government after you do what i did. Government is sopposed to represent the people and what i did was not representing the people. therefore at that moment i was in violation of my job.

Post self-deleted by Albenia.

Albenia wrote:The people don't know what they want. That's why YOU have to represent their best interests.

yes and i did not do that with that act on foreign soil.

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