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Region: Libertatem

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The States Of Balloon wrote:You're not even a citizen yet so you really shouldn't tell the government how to run its own region, at least not with that condescending tone. And after your complete disregard for the existing government of Libertatem without a good reason, I would be quite wary of making you a citizen as I predict a pattern of general "thorn-in-side" annoyance from you.

#Balloon4BorderControl

Unfortunately, just because I have a critical perspective of the current administration you end up provoking on my citizenship status. You should be more wary about the legitimacy of the government that is before us. Isn't it also interesting that the posts that defend critical posts are liked by the cabinet members?

Pax Enigmata wrote:Unfortunately, just because I have a critical perspective of the current administration you end up provoking on my citizenship status. You should be more wary about the legitimacy of the government that is before us. Isn't it also interesting that the posts that defend critical posts are liked by the cabinet members?

Gtfo please

The United States Of Patriots, Libiceland

Republic Of Minerva wrote:btw i am not sexist or transphobic in any way...i'm just describing an...interesting encounter

No way did that really happen

Pax Enigmata wrote:Unfortunately, just because I have a critical perspective of the current administration you end up provoking on my citizenship status. You should be more wary about the legitimacy of the government that is before us. Isn't it also interesting that the posts that defend critical posts are liked by the cabinet members?

No, I'm provoking on your citizenship status because you're coming off as a condescending little sh*t despite the fact that you haven't even been here a week.

Miencraft, Pevvania, The United States Of Patriots, Libiceland

Pevvania wrote:Gtfo please

Why? So the current establishment like you can stay in office?

Pevvania wrote:No way did that really happen

no, lmao

Rateria

The States Of Balloon wrote:No, I'm provoking on your citizenship status because you're coming off as a condescending little sh*t despite the fact that you haven't even been here a week.

So am I not entitled to a critical opinion? Seems a bit hypocritical when reading over the telegram message I received in recruiting new members...

Pulceria

Pax Enigmata wrote:Why? So the current establishment like you can stay in office?

Dude nobody knows who you are, you're not even a citizen and you're stirring the pot. Not a great way to get your voice heard.

Miencraft, Rateria, The States Of Balloon, The United States Of Patriots, Libiceland

Pax Enigmata wrote:So am I not entitled to a critical opinion? Seems a bit hypocritical when reading over the telegram message I received in recruiting new members...

I never said you weren't allowed to have a critical opinion. But maybe you should stop getting salty when the possibility arises that you may be wrong.

Miencraft, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

[B]OFFICE OF THE ACTING PRESIDENT

[I]Acting President Humpheria

The Libertatem-CoFN Treaty is in the process if being ratified by the Confederacy. We are so proud to see this important partnership moving forward. Once the Senate reconvenes, I sincerely hope that the ratification of this treaty will be one of their top priorities.

Though we had a few hours of tumult here at home today and this lengthy process of investigation and proceedings against the President will unfortunately take a significant amount of time and regional focus, let us not forget that we are still a strong region of friendly nations. Let us not forget to do the people's work in this time, for I believe it is more important now than ever. Scandals and Presidents come and go, but we are proving still that nothing can shake the very foundation of our region -- the People.

Pevvania, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Venomringo, Jadentopian Order

Humph4Prez

Humpheria, Auxorii, Rateria, Pulceria

This is why regions should have forums at least to check IPs and stop puppets from flooding the voting process.

Or alternatively require WA membership.

Auxorii

Pax Enigmata wrote:Unfortunately, just because I have a critical perspective of the current administration you end up provoking on my citizenship status. You should be more wary about the legitimacy of the government that is before us. Isn't it also interesting that the posts that defend critical posts are liked by the cabinet members?

You can't have citizenship at the moment. There's a suspension on it for security reasons. As much as I agree with you, you need to calm down and realize that created a mob mentality is bad.

You actually remind of me of myself, and I'm sure others, especially Humph can atest to that. I was arguing and all that against the government, but you need to realize that this region has rules, and we have to follow them. It's for the best.

What is right is right, and I really do believe justice will prevail.

Humpheria, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Libiceland, Pulceria

Auxorii wrote:You can't have citizenship at the moment. There's a suspension on it for security reasons. As much as I agree with you, you need to calm down and realize that created a mob mentality is bad.

You actually remind of me of myself, and I'm sure others, especially Humph can atest to that. I was arguing and all that against the government, but you need to realize that this region has rules, and we have to follow them. It's for the best.

What is right is right, and I really do believe justice will prevail.

Quite

Rateria

Free States Of Cuba wrote:This is why regions should have forums at least to check IPs and stop puppets from flooding the voting process.

Or alternatively require WA membership.

The thing with being a libertarian region is that the WA is inherently antithetical to libertarian ideology - as is forcing citizens to be a part of a group they might not want to be in any way related to.

It's also a hard ban on having citizens whose main nations are in other regions.

And anything where IPs are potentially visible is... problematic, to say the least, and opens up an avenue of catastrophic abuse at worst.

Rateria, Libiceland

A military that considers invasion as a defense is also antithetical to libertarianism.

Auxorii wrote:A military that considers invasion as a defense is also antithetical to libertarianism.

Retaliation to aggression is defensive.

Rateria

Miencraft wrote:Retaliation to aggression is defensive.

What do you define as aggression?

Auxorii wrote:What do you define as aggression?

Unprovoked attack or violation of the rights of another.

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Miencraft wrote:The thing with being a libertarian region is that the WA is inherently antithetical to libertarian ideology - as is forcing citizens to be a part of a group they might not want to be in any way related to.

It's also a hard ban on having citizens whose main nations are in other regions.

And anything where IPs are potentially visible is... problematic, to say the least, and opens up an avenue of catastrophic abuse at worst.

You can't really pinpoint a person's location with just the IP. Almost every serious NS region has a forum.

Could use just for voting if people don't want to use for anything else.

Miencraft wrote:Unprovoked attack or violation of the rights of another.

What so you consider a violation of rights?

Free States Of Cuba wrote:You can't really pinpoint a person's location with just the IP.

The problem with knowing the IP is, that's all you need for DDoS. The wrong people get access to that - or even worse, the guys in charge decide to start taking down political opponents - and things get really bad.

Auxorii wrote:What so you consider a violation of rights?

Anything infringing upon one's right to:

1) Life

2) Property

3) Self-determination and expression, etc.

Therefore:

1) Assault, murder, etc. are acts of aggression

2) Theft is an act of aggression

3) Coercion is an act of aggression

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Republic Of Minerva wrote:*Walks up to a very attractive looking woman from behind*

"Hey, how is it going beautiful?"

*said woman turns around, revealing a square jaw and five o clock shadow*

"Oh, nevermind."

"wait come back!"

*Minerva turns around in curiousity*

"my name is Studlee Hungwell"

*makes out*

*cringes*

Republic Of Minerva, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

[quote=miencraft;25799009]The problem with knowing the IP is, that's all you need for DDoS. The wrong people get access to that - or even worse, the guys in charge decide to start taking down political opponents - and things get really bad.

Can you give an actual example of that happening in the many regions using forums?

The price of inaction is having elections filled with puppets. There is no way you can control them right now.

I pass legislation to use antibiotics on chickens, and my Weather gets worse? come on how does that happen.

Rateria

Pulceria wrote:I pass legislation to use antibiotics on chickens, and my Weather gets worse? come on how does that happen.

A while ago someone legalized gay marriage and their pizza industry tanked.

Auxorii, Rateria, Pulceria

My tax rate used to be 3%, I answered a single issue on decreasing government involvement in the weavebasket industry or something and now it's 50%

Rateria

Pulceria wrote:I pass legislation to use antibiotics on chickens, and my Weather gets worse? come on how does that happen.

Proof of climate change :) Hahahaha.

Auxorii

I was just reading the history of Libertatem. and I found...

...."founded by Liberosia (real name Connor)"....

Wait "Connor" as in "Connor Boyack!?" founder of Libertas Institute!, libertarian extraordinaire!, author!, and Ron Paul enthusiast!?.....

Am I seeing things.

Or is this Just a coincidence?

Rateria

ENDORSEMENT WANTED:

Would appreciate very much.

Pulceria

Libiceland

Pulceria wrote:ENDORSEMENT WANTED:

Would appreciate very much.

Pulceria

I already did ;)

Pulceria

Libiceland wrote:I already did ;)

And I Endorsed you so that makes Us even :)

Libiceland

Remember to vote Auxorii (Terra de Libertatem) for Seat 4! For an Independent and strong voice in the Senate!

Rateria, Libiceland

Post self-deleted by Auxorii.

Dred can still win this

Republic Of Minerva, Auxorii, Rateria

Platform of Dred:

1. Ban memes

2. uphold dredite theocracy

3. party

Rateria

The States Of Balloon wrote:Dred can still win this

Dred can still win: Here's how

Auxorii, Rateria

Jadentopian Order wrote:Dred can still win: Here's how

POLITICIANS HATE HIM: Dred figures out method to win any election

Auxorii, Rateria, Jadentopian Order

Auxorii wrote:Vote Auxorii!

*does finger pistols*

I refuse

Auxorii, Rateria

The States Of Balloon wrote:*does finger pistols*

I refuse

better than real pistols :)

Resignation of President Hyderbourg

OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT

President Hyderbourg

Citizens of Libertatem,

Vice President and Speaker of the Senate,

It is with a great sense of sadness that I am announcing that I shall be resigning from the post of President of the Second Republic.

This is not an admission of guilt. Since my election as president I have solely done what the people of Libertatem have wanted, at this point it seems apparent that a section of the population of Libertatem would like to see a halt to my term as President. This will be true until there is a more clear consensus of my innocence and loyalty to the region, I understand this.

I hope that this question regarding my integrity has not overshadowed the success of my administration and my cabinet. Through my presidency the population of Libertatem has grown almost three hundred percent as we went from a slump to among our most prosperous times. We now have more solidified allies and have successfully proceeded through a merger. We have even revitalized our military to a point unprecedented in recent history. We are in a place now where success is inevitable.

I am proud of the work that we have done together as a region throughout my time in office and I trust every citizen here to stand up and continue this trend.

This by no measure indicates the end of my service in Libertatem, solely a temporary hiatus as President until problems are resolved and the trust of the populace is regained. Until then, I will be among you, the citizens, continually working for this improvement.

I am leaving this administration in among the most capable hands possible, my Vice President and Chancellor of State, Humpheria; but in a more tangible sense I leaving my administration in the hands of all of the citizens of Libertatem, I know you will do her justice.

Thank you all,

Hyderbourg

Citizen of the Republic

So hi Y'all, I'm Kal from the CFN and Hyde made this Factbook, he asked someone to C+V it on the RMB so here I am :D

Rateria, Hyderbourg

Would this mean the Speaker is now Vice President and we need to elect a new Speaker?

Post self-deleted by Miencraft.

Auxorii wrote:Would this mean the Speaker is now Vice President and we need to elect a new Speaker?

The line of succession only goes beyond Vice President in case of temporary inability. If the President is incapable, VP serves, but if he's incapable Speaker serves, etc.

When the President steps down, whoever was serving as President, or the guy highest in the line of succession, instantly becomes President and gets a brand new cabinet and everything. If, of course, they want a new cabinet.

Hey! LibIceland here! I would like to transfer my citizenship to this nation

Libertarian Iceland wrote:And please endorse me

I would like to get to know you, before I Endorsed you.

Libertarian Iceland wrote:Hey! LibIceland here! I would like to transfer my citizenship to this nation

Did you mean Region?

And you will probably need to fill out an application for citizenship.

Welcome anyways though.

I meant to get rid of Capitol punishment, not extreme political groups.

My civil rights, and political rights, just fell to average. Darn that!

Rateria

Pulceria wrote:I would like to get to know you, before I Endorsed you.

Did you mean Region?

And you will probably need to fill out an application for citizenship.

Welcome anyways though.

File out and application?

I am LibIceland! You endorsed my old nation

Is there a border control position because if there is I am running

Rateria, Hyderbourg

Auxorii are you running as independent?

[B]OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT

[I]President Humpheria

Hyderbourg is a true and faithful public servant. The unfortunate events that have lead to the recent changes in the administration have left our region severely scarred and divided. It is times like these that try our faith in government. I am here to tell you all that our regional crisis is over. With respect to the former President, Libertatem moves forward.

This is a time for healing and unity. The evidence against Hyderbourg is flawed at best and unfortunate at worst. It is with unity and regional healing that I issue a full and unconditional pardon of any crimes that the President may have committed. He has willfully sacrificed his position as our leader to show respect to his detractors. If nothing else, Hyderbourg's long career in service to the region has earned him a reprieve.

Today we join each other once again as peers and friends. Thank you all for your continued support and faith in this region. We are stronger than any scandal. We are all dedicated to this region and in that we have the knowledge that what unites us is much stronger than what divides us.

In Service,

Humpheria

Miencraft, Republic Of Minerva, Rateria, The States Of Balloon, Hyderbourg, The United States Of Patriots

Post self-deleted by Pulceria.

Libertarian Iceland wrote:File out and application?

I am LibIceland! You endorsed my old nation

Hahaha. didn't recognize you. my bad :)

P.S. Endorsement on the way.

Rateria

Help wanted:

Now hiring Chancellor of State and Vice President.

Video of the "week"

Rateria

What do all these government positions do again

The States Of Balloon wrote:Video of the "week"

Video of the week, every week.

The States Of Balloon wrote:What do all these government positions do again

It's in the Constitution, you can go read and find out for yourself.

Auxorii, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Post self-deleted by Libertarian Iceland.

Miencraft wrote:It's in the Constitution, you can go read and find out for yourself.

Cool. When are elections for Chancellor of the Interior?

Condy had a government activity 20 hours ago.

Rateria, Libertarian Iceland

The States Of Balloon wrote:Cool. When are elections for Chancellor of the Interior?

Uh. Read closer. It's not an elected position.

Rateria, Libertarian Iceland

Miencraft wrote:Uh. Read closer. It's not an elected position.

Noted.

when you're white

Pevvania, Rateria

The States Of Balloon wrote:when you're white

LMAO so relatable haha!!

Rateria

Islamist antisemite Sadiq Khan says he doesn't care about Trump's tweets, yet has called for the UK to rescind its invitation to Trump. Sad loser!

Miencraft, Auxorii

Econ question: Trump wants to cut taxes, launch an infrastructure buildup, privatise and cut several government agencies and is in the process of deregulating the US economy. So on net, in conventional economic terms he's pushing for a stimulus, or expansionary rather than contractionary fiscal and supply-side policies. My question - and the big question in the markets right now - is will this have as significant of an effect on the US economy as we hope, with unemployment downwards of 4% and growth stable?

I believe the answer is, if we avoid a cyclical recession, yes. The unemployment statistic is wildly misleading since labour force participation, while perking up again, is at a historic low, black and youth employment is at rock bottom, growth is at the lowest level it's been in US history, median and family incomes have barely recovered from the recession (and are still below their levels from 2000) and government dependency is at an all-time high. The Obama Administration failed disastrously at producing the kind of strong recovery we needed from a recession so deep, and American families have paid for it. I believe that Trumponomics, if fully enacted, will be able to move the US economy closer to the edge of its productive potential.

Miencraft, Narland

The privatization of Air Control isn't particularly impressive. Instead of a full privatization, it's a sort of crony privatization overseen by the FFA. At the very least it is a switch from a model from taxation to user-fees, which you could argue is a bit better from a libertarian standpoint, but does not particularly solve the existing problem with overregulation and lack of actual competition.

https://fee.org/articles/this-privatization-is-fine-but-uneventful/

Narland

I look forward to working with the new Senate on very important matters such as ratifying the Sister Region Treaty and accomplishing much more. I'm sure Speaker Pevvania will hit the ground running as soon as the Senate is convened.

Pevvania, Rateria, Hyderbourg, Jadentopian Order

Is no throttle easier to get issues

Czekania wrote:Is no throttle easier to get issues

Yeah, it removes the throttle on getting issues.

Pulceria

Almost a guaranteed win for Auxorii. congrats.

Don't forget in the fifth seat election. Vote for Pulceria. a voice of justice, order, safety, and peace. in Libertatems honorable senate.

Sincerely Your Faithful Servant Pulceria

Miencraft wrote:Yeah, it removes the throttle on getting issues.

I've been putting it on 12 hours, and I feel so dumb

Czekania wrote:I've been putting it on 12 hours, and I feel so dumb

I think even with "no throttle" there's still a bit of a wait, because you can only get new issues at certain times, but the throttle being on just increases that wait.

Miencraft wrote:I think even with "no throttle" there's still a bit of a wait, because you can only get new issues at certain times, but the throttle being on just increases that wait.

Ok, so no throttle is better?

Czekania wrote:Ok, so no throttle is better?

If you want to answer issues quicker; no throttle

If you want to wait some time before new issues appear, use a throttle

Rateria

Republic Of Minerva wrote:If you want to answer issues quicker; no throttle

If you want to wait some time before new issues appear, use a throttle

Oh, ok thanks

Searching for bishops for the Church of mhomen. Please contact if interested.

Mhomenism wrote:Searching for bishops for the Church of mhomen. Please contact if interested.

nope.avi

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Can I have some endorsements?

Auxorii wrote:Can I have some endorsements?

no

you have to upload a youtube video of you doing 5,000 push-ups before I'll give you one

Pevvania, Auxorii, Rateria

Mhomenism wrote:Searching for bishops for the Church of mhomen. Please contact if interested.

Mhomenism? Is that anything like the Lewdonism everybody is practicing around these parts?

*spins wheel of mental disorders*

Come on, gender dysphoria, gender dysphoria, gender dysphoria...Munchausen syndrome? God dammit.

Australia's Malcolm Turncoat makes me wish we had Abbott back. He was hopelessly incompetent and backed away from policies at the first sign of resistance, but if he was a bit tougher he would've been able to cut back government significantly. The best PM would still be Leyonhjelm though.

Republic Of Minerva

The best way to convince someone else of your point of view is to insult them and call their ideas racist and stupid.

Rateria

Seriously though, while it is fun to crush leftists in debates (which, by the way, I always win, online and in person), we should also try to convince them that liberty is way to go. Most liberals are normal people, so if we can use the common ground we have with 'classic' leftists (non SJWs) on foreign policy, drugs and military spending, we can establish our own credibility and be listened to when we talk about economic policy and the role of government.

Miencraft, Narland, Republic Of Minerva, Rateria

Nikki Haley: "It is essential that the Human Rights Council address its chronic anti-Israel bias, if it is to have any credibility."

UN antisemites BTFO

Miencraft

Jeez, this election is going to be a close one

Pulceria

The States Of Balloon wrote:Cool. When are elections for Chancellor of the Interior?

*staring intensifies*

Auxorii, Rateria

Post self-deleted by The States Of Balloon.

Libertatem history updated again. Lil' bits at a time.

Miencraft, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Venomringo

I guess I'm on discord now

Damn window washers

Republic Of Minerva, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

> when they criticize you for never leaving the circlejerk but the circlejerk is the only place where you're allowed to speak

> be a person

> out to stab someone

> find a good target, alone at computer

> no video or voice chat

> do the deed

> see he's on discord with his friends

> nowIvedoneit.pdf

> type a message into chat

> "I'm leaving nationstates"

> log off and get out of there

> nobody suspects a thing

> you just stabbed Condealism

Miencraft, Republic Of Minerva, Rateria, Libiceland, Pulceria

Pevvania wrote:The best way to convince someone else of your point of view is to insult them and call their ideas racist and stupid.

That sounds fairly ignorant to me and it is flagrantly racist!

Pevvania, Rateria

You guys wanna create a world organization like how the US and the allies made the United Nations?

I'm not saying I'm racist, but there were two fights at my school today and the fact that the participants were black doesn't surprise me.

Libiceland

Czekania wrote:You guys wanna create a world organization like how the US and the allies made the United Nations?

There's already the WA and regional government

Miencraft, Pulceria

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