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Muh Roads wrote:Statist, did you just assume my gender?

I thought you identified as an Unquestionable God of All That Exists.

The Ambassador To The Clfr, Kumquat Cove, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Hey guys

remember when I got North Korea condemned?

Those were the days

Humpheria

Miencraft wrote:I thought you identified as an Unquestionable God of All That Exists.

Yes. This is true.

Clinton's an absolute joke.

Pevvania, Republic Of Minerva, The Ambassador To The Clfr, Kumquat Cove, The United States Of Patriots

I do not drink, but this debate has me wanting to chug a quart of chocolate milk with a coffee chaser. I hope the next debate has a moderator that knows how to moderate or better knows how to treat both candidates as hostile witnesses in order to force them both to answer questions directly, succinctly without allowing speculation and stalling. I hope the next debate includes Johnson.

Miencraft, Teuberland

I'm actually surprised Trump would bring up the FED. Everything he said there was true, we are in a bubble and the FED does need to be accountable to the people.

I am actually hopeful that he might work with Sen Paul in reining them in.

I skipped the debate, and it sounds like that was in good judgment. I really don't need any more excuses to get drunk...

Kind of listened to it while driving. My impression is propping two drunks up against each other in hopes that each will hold the other up.

Kumquat Cove

The Ambassador To The Clfr wrote:Kind of listened to it while driving. My impression is propping two drunks up against each other in hopes that each will hold the other up.

I bet there is a lot of bodily contact between those two. I bet Killary is into hair pulling.

Bill is too busy being a mack daddy keepin it 100 OG stait up gangsta

Kumquat Cove

***Listens to the Sound of Silence...***

Rateria, Teuberland

The regional community news issue #45: Friday+1 is out!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=635408

Narland wrote:***Listens to the Sound of Silence...***

♫"Hello darkness my old friend..." ♫

Rateria

The United States Of Patriots wrote:♫"Hello darkness my old friend..." ♫

♫"I've come to talk with you again..."♫

Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

Seems I caused a fun little hullabaloo in the old USSR.

Narland wrote:***Listens to the Sound of Silence...***

Which one?

This one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9Dg-g7t2l4

Or this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fWyzwo1xg0

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I was part of a high school band (we only had two gigs and they were disasters). We did a punked thrash metal polka version of Sound of Silence. It was raucous. That is until one of our friends lawyer uncle informed us that we needed a freaking licences to play the song in public. ***one of these days I will learn to type Englitch well enough to not need to post three or four times, i hope***

Teuberland

My roommate i watching the new tv show Designated Survivor and I want to pull my hair out. It is like watching a supposedly serious science fiction show where astronauts stranded on the moon use a rowboat to oar safely back to earth. Politically ignorant scriptwriters shouldn't be let near shows like this.

I just spent three hours watching a guys live stream while he was driving around in Hurricane Mathew. H-O-L-Y C-R-A-P

The United States Of Patriots wrote:I just spent three hours watching a guys live stream while he was driving around in Hurricane Mathew. H-O-L-Y C-R-A-P

Why would anyone do this.

New Jaslandia

The United States Of Patriots wrote:I just spent three hours watching a guys live stream while he was driving around in Hurricane Mathew. H-O-L-Y C-R-A-P

My family actually lives on Florida's east coast, so we went to the state's Gulf Coast to possibly avoid the storm. For some reason, the storm didn't hit as badly as we thought.

New Jaslandia, Kumquat Cove

Miencraft wrote:Why would anyone do this.

I know it's crazy! But he is a storm chaser and sells the footage he gets to make bank.

Rateria wrote:My family actually lives on Florida's east coast, so we went to the state's Gulf Coast to possibly avoid the storm. For some reason, the storm didn't hit as badly as we thought.

Yeah, it looks like the eye stayed a few miles of the shore.

I hope you and your family are all okay. And I hope that you home/and belongings are all where they're suppose to be, in the shape they're supposed to be.

New Jaslandia, Rateria

Miencraft wrote:Why would anyone do this.

I used to do it for money. Over a period of roughly 12 years only one hurricane came ashore in the United States without my smiling face waiting on the beach to greet it

Katrina was about the time I started looking for a way out of it.

Well, one month to go, folks.

It may be pretty much certain Hillary is coming, but hey, at least we won't have to deal with Trump.

New Jaslandia, Republic Of Minerva

Newfound America wrote:Well, one month to go, folks.

It may be pretty much certain Hillary is coming, but hey, at least we won't have to deal with Trump.

Yeah, but then we'll be stuck with Hillary for eight years (because we all know nothing she does is making her lose re-election), and she just really, really needs to be spending life in prison right now.

There is no way she should ever be allowed to be president of anything.

Kumquat Cove, The United States Of Patriots, Shirayuki Mizore

Newfound America wrote:Well, one month to go, folks.

It may be pretty much certain Hillary is coming, but hey, at least we won't have to deal with Trump.

That's no solace to me. I dislike her just as much as Trump.

The United States Of Patriots

The United States Of Patriots wrote:Yeah, it looks like the eye stayed a few miles of the shore.

I hope you and your family are all okay. And I hope that you home/and belongings are all where they're suppose to be, in the shape they're supposed to be.

Thank you. We actually went home yesterday, with no power outage or damage to our house.

Kumquat Cove, The United States Of Patriots

Rateria wrote:My family actually lives on Florida's east coast, so we went to the state's Gulf Coast to possibly avoid the storm. For some reason, the storm didn't hit as badly as we thought.

Yeah, I heard the storm turned a little away from Florida at the last second, so it could have been worse. Still, I live on Florida's west coast, and my area cancelled school on Friday just in case.

I hope you and your family are okay, and weren't impacted too much by the storm.

Kumquat Cove, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots

New Jaslandia wrote:Yeah, I heard the storm turned a little away from Florida at the last second, so it could have been worse. Still, I live on Florida's west coast, and my area cancelled school on Friday just in case.

I hope you and your family are okay, and weren't impacted too much by the storm.

Thank you for your concern. I know that northern Florida, especially Daytona and Cocoa Beach took a massive hit.

New Jaslandia

Rateria wrote:Thank you. We actually went home yesterday, with no power outage or damage to our house.

I live in eastern Florida. We had a power outage. But the outages overall were scattered throughout the area. A few branches and trees down in the town but that was it.

New Jaslandia, Rateria

Rateria wrote:Thank you for your concern. I know that northern Florida, especially Daytona and Cocoa Beach took a massive hit.

Yes, I've heard. Some classmates of mine went on a field trip to the Jacksonville area around Thursday and Friday, so I'm wondering what they did when the storm hit.

Kumquat Cove wrote:I live in eastern Florida. We had a power outage. But the outages overall were scattered throughout the area. A few branches and trees down in the town but that was it.

At least the damage wasn't so bad. If the storm had stayed it's original track or moved further west, it could have been much worse.

Kumquat Cove, Rateria

New Jaslandia wrote:Yes, I've heard. Some classmates of mine went on a field trip to the Jacksonville area around Thursday and Friday, so I'm wondering what they did when the storm hit.

At least the damage wasn't so bad. If the storm had stayed it's original track or moved further west, it could have been much worse.

Hopefully someone had the brains to look at the weather and they either didn't leave, or turned around and went home.

New Jaslandia

The Ambassador To The Clfr wrote:Hopefully someone had the brains to look at the weather and they either didn't leave, or turned around and went home.

Perhaps. If that wasn't possible, I hope they were at the very least able to find safe shelter in or around Jacksonville.

This campaign makes me wish Jeb Bush had won the primaries. He has the class of his father and is more free-market than anyone in the Trump camp.

Miencraft, New Jaslandia, Republic Of Minerva, The Ambassador To The Clfr, The United States Of Patriots

Pevvania wrote:This campaign makes me wish Jeb Bush had won the primaries. He has the class of his father and is more free-market than anyone in the Trump camp.

I agree, and I hate Jeb Bush

Pevvania, The Ambassador To The Clfr

jeb bush is L O W E N E R G Y

Pevvania, Rateria, Hyderbourg

Seriously though Clinton got skewered in that debate. She stayed relatively on message but just could not defend herself from Trump's attacks. Her attempts at turning the tables on Trump seemed ineffective and repetitive.

That being said I still think that Clinton, unfortunately, will likely win. And if she indeed does, what kind of Hillary Clinton do you think we're going to get? The one that called TPP the "gold standard" and said in her bank speeches that she wants a hemispheric free trade and open border zone (which I think is a great idea), entitlement reform and to cut government spending in the way Slick Willie (mostly) did? Or the Hillary we've seen in her post-Sanders campaign that promises "free" college and childcare along with a raft of new taxes and debt?

Either way, I think her cold ruthlessness and blatant disregard for the law, and people's lives, indicates that a second Clinton Presidency could be the most dangerous to the Constitution and to the principles of transparent and accountable government since the Nixon Administration.

Miencraft, Kumquat Cove, The United States Of Patriots, Shirayuki Mizore

Hey what happened to our anti-commie flag?

Pevvania wrote:Seriously though Clinton got skewered in that debate. She stayed relatively on message but just could not defend herself from Trump's attacks. Her attempts at turning the tables on Trump seemed ineffective and repetitive.

That being said I still think that Clinton, unfortunately, will likely win. And if she indeed does, what kind of Hillary Clinton do you think we're going to get? The one that called TPP the "gold standard" and said in her bank speeches that she wants a hemispheric free trade and open border zone (which I think is a great idea), entitlement reform and to cut government spending in the way Slick Willie (mostly) did? Or the Hillary we've seen in her post-Sanders campaign that promises "free" college and childcare along with a raft of new taxes and debt?

Either way, I think her cold ruthlessness and blatant disregard for the law, and people's lives, indicates that a second Clinton Presidency could be the most dangerous to the Constitution and to the principles of transparent and accountable government since the Nixon Administration.

I won't lie. The thought of what's going to happen in the next four years absolutely terrifies me.

Hillary will likely win, and her record is... just awful. Her support of things like the Communications Decency Act. Her -- let's say "questionable" -- ethics of late. Her essential declaration of war on SCOTUS due to her dislike of their rulings.

My good will toward this country is hanging by a thread. I just don't understand anymore.

Teuberland

Pevvania wrote:Hey what happened to our anti-commie flag?

Bahah...ha...hahahahaha ha

You don't come here often do you?

Pevvania wrote:Hey what happened to our anti-commie flag?

Ok so while you were gone we passed a new Constitution and now we're, like, Libertatem 2.0, and that old flag was the flag of, like, Libertatem 1.0, and stuff, so now we've got a new one because we're all shiny and new, and stuff.

New Jaslandia, Muh Roads, Rateria

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Shirayuki Mizore wrote:I won't lie. The thought of what's going to happen in the next four years absolutely terrifies me.

Hillary will likely win, and her record is... just awful. Her support of things like the Communications Decency Act. Her -- let's say "questionable" -- ethics of late. Her essential declaration of war on SCOTUS due to her dislike of their rulings.

My good will toward this country is hanging by a thread. I just don't understand anymore.

It has yet to be seen. The last time an outsider who was inherently anti-establishment ran since WWII was Goldwater and Reagan. The press didn't give either a chance lying about the strength of their bases, and continuously impugning their character and ignoring the flaws of other contender.

If Goldwater had insisted on a recount he would have taken the Presidency. Reagan won by an electoral landslide, but you would not have known it from reading/watching the press/media; listening to Hollywood, or paying attention to the unionized teachers in the Public School System. The entrenched statists (call them what you want) did everything they could before, during and after the election to make sure that they were lambasted, vilified, excoriated, and rendered impotent.

Trump has more of a chance than is generally recognized. If Hillary is elected we can expect what happened to Greece to happen to us. Johnson may not get the 15%, but we have a chance to insist to the Debates Commission alloy every VIABLE candidate to be in the Presidential Debates. If enough people scream lout enough can happen for the next Presidential Election. A viable candidate is a candidate who is enrolled to run in enough states that has a high enough electoral count to theoretically win the election--GOP, Democratic, Libertarian, Green, Constitution, and whatever else parties.

This would at least break the Republicrat duopoly and allow for a more free exchange of information forcing them to deal with issues that are important to those who love Liberty.

The Regional Community News Issue #46:The sports Issue. Is out!

Shirayuki Mizore wrote:... Her -- let's say "questionable" -- ethics of always... .

FTFY

Our video of the week and book of the month has been the same since last year.

New Jaslandia, Teuberland

Newfound America wrote:Our video of the week and book of the month has been the same since last year.

Yeah, because nobody cares to update them.

If you really want them changed, I'll make the book of the month Cat in the Hat and the video will be someone reading Cat in the Hat.

New Jaslandia, Rateria, Teuberland, The United States Of Patriots, Shirayuki Mizore

Miencraft wrote:Yeah, because nobody cares to update them.

If you really want them changed, I'll make the book of the month Cat in the Hat and the video will be someone reading Cat in the Hat.

Please do.

If Keynesian economics worked, Haiti should be super rich right now.

Pevvania, The Ambassador To The Clfr

Miencraft wrote:Yeah, because nobody cares to update them.

If you really want them changed, I'll make the book of the month Cat in the Hat and the video will be someone reading Cat in the Hat.

If you're looking for a Libertarian theme, could we perhaps go with "The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress" by Robert A. Heinlein.

If you're looking for an entertaining read, I've had some enjoyment from "A Canticle for Leibowitz."

Teuberland wrote:If you're looking for a Libertarian theme, could we perhaps go with "The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress" by Robert A. Heinlein.

If you're looking for an entertaining read, I've had some enjoyment from "A Canticle for Leibowitz."

I mean, it's not that I don't have very many ideas, it's just that I don't really care about that particular section of the WFE.

Teuberland, The United States Of Patriots

Miencraft wrote:I mean, it's not that I don't have very many ideas, it's just that I don't really care about that particular section of the WFE.

Yeah, I get yah. But I suppose it is nice to fiddle with it.

The United States Of Patriots

You....you really changed it to Cat in the Hat....NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Miencraft, New Jaslandia, Rateria

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If she ran the circus, yesiree

there would be one ring not just three.

one ring is all that is needed nowdays

all that is needed for pay to plays.

give her your votes and do it now

and she will send home old Senator Splow.

Home will go congress one two three

home will go justices no more to see

everyone will get green eggs and ham

and hammers and sickles never spam

hope and chains for the petty bourgeois

and the proles will give a final huzzah!

Dr. Seuss isn't my strong suit. I would recommend I Pencil by Leonard Read; Economics in One Lesson by Hazzlitt; or The Road to Serfdom by Hayek

The Ambassador To The Clfr

Narland wrote:Dr. Seuss isn't my strong suit. I would recommend I Pencil by Leonard Read; Economics in One Lesson by Hazzlitt; or The Road to Serfdom by Hayek

Henry Hazlitt's book should be required reading before you can get out of high school.

Republic Of Minerva

Economic s as a course should be required, imo.

New Jaslandia, The United States Of Patriots

Narland wrote:Dr. Seuss isn't my strong suit. I would recommend I Pencil by Leonard Read; Economics in One Lesson by Hazzlitt; or The Road to Serfdom by Hayek

What about "The Gods of the Copybook Headings" phenomenal poem

I am thoroughly enraged that the UN decided it could pull the authority out of its collective ass to decide that Judaism has no claim to Temple Mount.

Pevvania, San Andrias, Kumquat Cove, Rateria

Miencraft wrote:I am thoroughly enraged that the UN decided it could pull the authority out of its collective ass to decide that Judaism has no claim to Temple Mount.

................ WHAT THE ACCUAL F***! when did they decide this!?

San Andrias, Kumquat Cove, Rateria

Teuberland wrote:You....you really changed it to Cat in the Hat....NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

End the fed was the 'book of the month' for almost a whole year :P.

Miencraft wrote:I am thoroughly enraged that the UN decided it could pull the authority out of its collective ass to decide that Judaism has no claim to Temple Mount.

The United States Of Patriots wrote:................ WHAT THE ACCUAL F***! when did they decide this!?

I just looked it up, this is a short article i found.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4866955,00.html

Miencraft wrote:I am thoroughly enraged that the UN decided it could pull the authority out of its collective ass to decide that Judaism has no claim to Temple Mount.

Who do you think should control it?

Economics in One Lesson should be the new book of the month.

The Ambassador To The Clfr

Asturias And Leon wrote:

Who do you think should control it?

Certainly not an uncountable-unelected international governmental body!

Asturias And Leon wrote:Who do you think should control it?

Nobody. Religions can make and protect their own claims.

Narland

Or, basically, in other words, the site is sacred to Jews and Muslims, and should not be taken away from either just because "hurr durr screw da jews".

New Jaslandia, Rateria, Teuberland

Miencraft wrote:Or, basically, in other words, the site is sacred to Jews and Muslims, and should not be taken away from either just because "hurr durr screw da jews".

I think one of the best summations of the history, and the different claims to, the temple mount is this article (http://www.danielpipes.org/84/the-muslim-claim-to-jerusalem)

It essentially says what you said, also adding that the islamic claim is political while the jewish is spiritual.

The United States Of Patriots wrote:I think one of the best summations of the history, and the different claims to, the temple mount is this article (http://www.danielpipes.org/84/the-muslim-claim-to-jerusalem)

It essentially says what you said, also adding that the islamic claim is political while the jewish is spiritual.

how is the islamic claim political?

their prophet 'raised up to heaven' there.

i understand the the jewish claim, i just don't think its necessarily legitimate as its been 2000+ years since they had it.

Asturias And Leon wrote:i understand the the jewish claim, i just don't think its necessarily legitimate as its been 2000+ years since they had it.

It's literally within the borders of a Jewish state.

I don't know how they could possibly not have it.

The United States Of Patriots

Miencraft wrote:It's literally within the borders of a Jewish state.

I don't know how they could possibly not have it.

Oh you mean now a days.

I was talking about their original claim when israel was founded in the mid 1900's.

more iconic era, The Fame Monster (2009) by Lady Gaga, or I am... Sasha Fierce (2008) by Beyonce

Asturias And Leon wrote:how is the islamic claim political?

their prophet 'raised up to heaven' there...

And the Jews have only had THREE temples there.

Jerusalem is the most holy place in Judaism, it being mention 669 times in the Tanakh(Jerusalem shows up in the Qur'an a grand total of zilch).

The temple mount, being the most holy place in Jerusalem, is to this day is the direction Jews pray. Muslims in contrast pray towards Mecca, their most holy site.

This being the case why in the world should the UN tell jews that they don't have a claim to the temple mount. That seems overtly political

Asturias And Leon wrote:how is the islamic claim political?

"the draft resolution it adopted on Thursday denies the deep, historic Jewish connection to the holy sites in Jerusalem. The resolution refers to the holiest site in Judaism—the Temple Mount—only by its Muslim name—Al-Haram Al Sharif."

That sound political to me...

Asturias And Leon wrote:

i understand the the jewish claim, i just don't think its necessarily legitimate as its been 2000+ years since they had it.

2000+?! Jerusalem wasn't islamic controlled until 638 a.d and there still was a large population of Christians and Jews all the way up to the British mandate.

So the most gracious numbers for you would be around 1300 years, a long time but certainly not 2000+

The United States Of Patriots wrote:"the draft resolution it adopted on Thursday denies the deep, historic Jewish connection to the holy sites in Jerusalem. The resolution refers to the holiest site in Judaism—the Temple Mount—only by its Muslim name—Al-Haram Al Sharif."

That sound political to me...

2000+?! Jerusalem wasn't islamic controlled until 638 a.d and there still was a large population of Christians and Jews all the way up to the British mandate.

So the most gracious numbers for you would be around 1300 years, a long time but certainly not 2000+

I didn't say it was islamic controlled, but jews haven't had it for about 2000 years.

Before the arabs got it, it switched hands between rome, babylonia and others.

The United States Of Patriots wrote:And the Jews have only had THREE temples there.

Jerusalem is the most holy place in Judaism, it being mention 669 times in the Tanakh(Jerusalem shows up in the Qur'an a grand total of zilch).

The temple mount, being the most holy place in Jerusalem, is to this day is the direction Jews pray. Muslims in contrast pray towards Mecca, their most holy site.

This being the case why in the world should the UN tell jews that they don't have a claim to the temple mount. That seems overtly political

Three? Pretty sure it is two.

Seems like i triggered you lol..

Asturias And Leon wrote:Oh you mean now a days.

I was talking about their original claim when israel was founded in the mid 1900's.

Well, yeah, I'll agree with you that, when it was originally founded, Israel was essentially stolen land that they didn't really have any claim to other than the fact that they had a bunch of sacred religious sites there.

When the Arabs invaded to reclaim land that was rightfully theirs, Israel won, defended and legitimized their own claim to the land, and now rightfully controls everything within those borders.

Sure, that only gives them about 70 years of recent control of it, but, still, they won the rights to control politically everything in their borders.

Them not having it in their borders wouldn't change anything, though. The Har HaBayit is the holiest site in all of Judaism, and political control over it means jack. It's a Jewish site and has been since long before the Muslims had it. It's important to them, too, but the Jews had it first, and it's in their land, so it is rightfully theirs.

To rephrase, because I like rephrasing:

Any political claim to a religious site doesn't mean anything; the fact that a location is held sacred to a religion is not something that any government can alter, and having control over the land on which that site is located also does not mean that that religion has any less of a claim over that territory.

The Regional Community News Issue #47 I am ashamed is out!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=635408

Miencraft wrote:Well, yeah, I'll agree with you that, when it was originally founded, Israel was essentially stolen land that they didn't really have any claim to other than the fact that they had a bunch of sacred religious sites there.

When the Arabs invaded to reclaim land that was rightfully theirs, Israel won, defended and legitimized their own claim to the land, and now rightfully controls everything within those borders.

Sure, that only gives them about 70 years of recent control of it, but, still, they won the rights to control politically everything in their borders.

Them not having it in their borders wouldn't change anything, though. The Har HaBayit is the holiest site in all of Judaism, and political control over it means jack. It's a Jewish site and has been since long before the Muslims had it. It's important to them, too, but the Jews had it first, and it's in their land, so it is rightfully theirs.

Yeah.

I'm not pro israel at all, but have gained a right to exist, weather their initial creation was legitimate or not.

Asturias And Leon wrote:

Three? Pretty sure it is two.

Seems like i triggered you lol..

Haha, no it's good. Yeah it was three most people don't realize that though.

Asturias And Leon wrote:I didn't say it was islamic controlled, but jews haven't had it for about 2000 years.

A jewish state? If thats the criteria than you can go all the way back to 600 BC. What I meant was a majority Jewish state. Though I can understand the confusion

Miencraft wrote:...when it was originally founded, Israel was essentially stolen land that they didn't really have any claim to other than the fact that they had a bunch of sacred religious sites there.

.

Well the British "Owned" it but really they just wanted the Suez canal

The United States Of Patriots wrote:Yeah it was three most people don't realize that though.

The "first" was more like the tabernacle moses used during the exodus and was set up while the first temple was being constructed

Sorry I left guys, I accidentally let it deactivate.

I have everything to do with this.

The United States Of Patriots

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Economic s as a course should be required, imo.

Thankfully it is at my school; I'll be taking it next semester.

Narland, Republic Of Minerva, Rateria

Hillary Clinton must be stopped at all costs.

Narland

Miencraft wrote:Hillary Clinton must be stopped at all costs.

What'd she do this time...?

I've kind of stopped paying attention for the sake of my own mental well being.

San Andrias, New Jaslandia, Kumquat Cove, Teuberland

Shirayuki Mizore wrote:What'd she do this time...?

I've kind of stopped paying attention for the sake of my own mental well being.

Nothing specifically.

It's just that every time she opens her mouth I'm reminded how horrible she is.

Miencraft wrote:Nothing specifically.

It's just that every time she opens her mouth I'm reminded how horrible she is.

Out of all honesty, I hate both Trump and Clinton.

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