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Who kills an animal just to kill an animal? Lots. Not in the sense your thinking. Fur and food? Okay. Ivory and blubber which people obtain by hurting animals is wrong. And both trades should be banned. Same goes for any hunting if animal not resulting in a basic need such as food or a preferable need such as clothing.

Tellus Risus wrote:Who kills an animal just to kill an animal? Lots. Not in the sense your thinking. Fur and food? Okay. Ivory and blubber which people obtain by hurting animals is wrong. And both trades should be banned. Same goes for any hunting if animal not resulting in a basic need such as food or a preferable need such as clothing.

How is it wrong? If we go off your stance on economics, it's good since it would stimulate the economy and private businesses would thrive off these industries. And there's Jo difference between killing only for fur and killing only for ivory. And, they are already banned. Your just kicking an issue which is already being addressed. But no, you'd like to add a repressive totalitarian government which takes three completely different and contradictory ideologies together to create an 'economy', and repress those for petty issues such as killing animals for reasons the government doesn't want.

The General Of The American Empire wrote:Now more complex topics like religion and politics I believe should not be told as if they are fact. On those types of issues I believe the parent should give the many types of beliefs and explain them. Then let the child choose what he/she believes.

I agree, yet morals are the same.

Zeouria wrote:How is it wrong? If we go off your stance on economics, it's good since it would stimulate the economy and private businesses would thrive off these industries. And there's Jo difference between killing only for fur and killing only for ivory. And, they are already banned. Your just kicking an issue which is already being addressed. But no, you'd like to add a repressive totalitarian government which takes three completely different and contradictory ideologies together to create an 'economy', and repress those for petty issues such as killing animals for reasons the government doesn't want.

My stance on economics is a free market to an extent of government minimul regulations for workers and maximum regulations for the environment. State Capitalism and Economic Intervention.

And my prefered government is Democracy with aspects of left economics. Authoritarian environmental and criminal watch and Libertarian social and informational views.

Everybody, we have an announcement. December 14th will be recognized as a regional holiday in honoring our former leader Pevvania, for all he has done for the region in his presidency. This has been voted on and implemented.

Tellus Risus wrote:My stance on economics is a free market to an extent of government minimul regulations for workers and maximum regulations for the environment. State Capitalism and Economic Intervention.

State capitalism and free market capitalism? Maximum regulations and free market? Public land but free market? Private bussiness yet 'communism'?

All... contradictory terms which you're just throwing around.

Tellus Risus wrote:And my prefered government is Democracy with aspects of left economics. Authoritarian environmental and criminal watch and Libertarian social and informational views.

Libertarian socialist views with authoritarian environmental and criminal views?! Democracy, yet totalitarian disc st state, as said before? Left wing economics, free market and state capitalism.

My head hurts...

I miss president pev. It's hhard to find something constructive to fight humpy on.

*libertarian not libertarian socialist

Zeouria wrote:State capitalism and free market capitalism? Maximum regulations and free market? Public land but free market? Private bussiness yet 'communism'?

All... contradictory terms which you're just throwing around.

Libertarian socialist views with authoritarian environmental and criminal views?! Democracy, yet totalitarian disc st state, as said before? Left wing economics, free market and state capitalism.

My head hurts...

Gosh.

State Capitalism and Interventionist. Government should have restrictions over certain aspects and support those who follow them, other then that let the markets be free to run how they wish.

Public land? I did say I like private business but preferred public housing.

Again. I said I didn't consider myself communist. If anything I'm a Social Democrat.

Yes. Libertarian views in one area can mix with authoritarian views in a seperate area.

Democracy that allows government regulations yes.

State Capitalism is basically leftist economics.

My stance on an issue usually depends on what the exact situation of the issue is. So I'll support some issues and not support others when the two could be very similar.

Tellus Risus wrote:Gosh.

State Capitalism and Interventionist. Government should have restrictions over certain aspects and support those who follow them, other then that let the markets be free to run how they wish.

Public land? I did say I like private business but preferred public housing.

Again. I said I didn't consider myself communist. If anything I'm a Social Democrat.

Yes. Libertarian views in one area can mix with authoritarian views in a seperate area.

Democracy that allows government regulations yes.

State Capitalism is basically leftist economics.

I'm done... go read a book.

Zeouria wrote:I'm done... go read a book.

Yes! I am not the only one tsar has given up on!

I'm just hearing constant contradictions that are quite deafening.

~rubs hands together~ secret plan time.......

Right-Winged Nation wrote:Everybody, we have an announcement. December 14th will be recognized as a regional holiday in honoring our former leader Pevvania, for all he has done for the region in his presidency. This has been voted on and implemented.

Pevvania Day is the Board's way of saying Pev's our Eternal Le...er, rather, our way of saying we'd like to thank our former President for his service.

Tellus Risus wrote:Gosh.

State Capitalism and Interventionist. Government should have restrictions over certain aspects and support those who follow them, other then that let the markets be free to run how they wish.

Public land? I did say I like private business but preferred public housing.

Again. I said I didn't consider myself communist. If anything I'm a Social Democrat.

Yes. Libertarian views in one area can mix with authoritarian views in a seperate area.

Democracy that allows government regulations yes.

State Capitalism is basically leftist economics.

I understand all of this. It's not that complex. She believes in different levels of government when it comes to different issues.

The Time Alliance wrote:I understand all of this. It's not that complex. She believes in different levels of government when it comes to different issues.

That sounds like it'd just get really out of hand.

Why not just have that one federal government that does basically nothing while all the localities and whatnot do whatever the hell it is they do when they're left alone?

Miencraft wrote:That sounds like it'd just get really out of hand.

Why not just have that one federal government that does basically nothing while all the localities and whatnot do whatever the hell it is they do when they're left alone?

I don't agree with her but I'll try to give an argument out from her perspective.

She says she wants basic freedoms in all sectors except the sectors of business and the environment. She seems to support from what I've understood from her on CFN a Spcial Democratic system where the Government helps those companies that protect the environment. I don't fully understand her argument but that's her basis. She seems to like capitalism over communism but supports it on a small scale (less than I used to though)

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Sounds like the typical Green party member to me. Green Party of USA especially.

Basically small gov, libertarian, community oriented and self managed economies by localities with minor distributism influence.

Minerva's hierarchy of government:

Total government: gov controls everything. Sorry

Big government: gov controls a large aspect of your life. Usually business, military, and morality are regulated.

Medium gov: gov controls a moderate amount of your life. If its a left wing government than it'll focus on regulating business, while a right wing government will regulate social norms and clamor for a large military.

Small government: Gov is shifted to the local scale, where the federal government regulates only what is absolutely necessary, generally the defense, environment, or other stuff that is better tackled by the fed. Morality and business is regulated solely by the states/localities

Minimal government: The fed and states sole responsibility is to regulate the basic functions of the state.

No government: Anarchy

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Sounds like the typical Green party member to me. Green Party of USA especially.

She's a member ya

A Pevvania Day? Wow. Thanks guys. I'm truly honoured by this.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:Sounds like the typical Green party member to me. Green Party of USA especially.

Yeah. I'm a member of the Green Party. I'm Social Democratic like Time said and an as you call it "Medium Leftist Government"

Pevvania wrote:A Pevvania Day? Wow. Thanks guys. I'm truly honoured by this.

Once I get a redress from the Chairman, I will sign it into law.

Does this region have any active Leftist or Environmental parties? I saw a Green Democratic Peace Party but it's defunct I believe.

Tellus Risus wrote:Does this region have any active Leftist or Environmental parties? I saw a Green Democratic Peace Party but it's defunct I believe.

You should make a new one if you can ;)

Tellus Risus wrote:Does this region have any active Leftist or Environmental parties? I saw a Green Democratic Peace Party but it's defunct I believe.

The Silver Bloods wrote:You should make a new one if you can ;)

The party system is privatized. The Green Peace Party was used as a political weapon, not an actual party.

Humpheria wrote:The party system is privatized. The Green Peace Party was used as a political weapon, not an actual party.

Jasmines party was hardly a weapon.. or a party.. lol

Humpheria wrote:The party system is privatized. The Green Peace Party was used as a political weapon, not an actual party.

What do you mean?

Press Report for Immediate Release to the Press

Office of the President

A PROCLAMATION

Whereas, the former President of Libertatem, Pevvania, is worthy of praise

Whereas, the preponderance of the population of the Region of Libertatem approve of the state of the Region and the job performance of Pevvania

Whereas, President Pevvania's term accomplished more than any other existing term

Now, Therefore, I, Humpheria, President of Libertatem, by the virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and further legislation thereof of the Region of Libertatem, do so order the following

1. The fourteenth day of December shall be regionally observed at all regional offices, embassies, and properties as Pevvania Day

2. This Order shall take effect immediately

Given, under my hand and seal this sixteenth day of September, Two Thousand Fourteen, and of the Founding of Libertatem, the Second.

Signed, Attest, Counsel,

[nation=short+noflag]Humpheria[/nation]

VI

President of Libertatem

Tellus Risus wrote:What do you mean?

Its founder used it to persuade people to endorse her so that she could usurp the Delegacy.

Humpheria wrote:Its founder used it to persuade people to endorse her so that she could usurp the Delegacy.

Wha-wha-wha-whaaaaat? How did I not know this?

Pevvania wrote:Wha-wha-wha-whaaaaat? How did I not know this?

She did it during the Constitution thing. I thought that was common knowledge.

Humpheria wrote:Its founder used it to persuade people to endorse her so that she could usurp the Delegacy.

For a Democratic Peace Party that sounds completely wrong and awful.

I just got an idea.

You know what I should do? I should right up a commendation proposal for Right Wing Uprising for dissolving itself. Rofl

Humpheria wrote:She did it during the Constitution thing. I thought that was common knowledge.

I had no idea either???

Treason! GPP TYRANNY!

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I just got an idea.

You know what I should do? I should right up a commendation proposal for Right Wing Uprising for dissolving itself. Rofl

If you do and it goes through, I'll let you take one of my days with Humpy.

Humpheria wrote:Press Report for Immediate Release to the Press

Office of the President

A PROCLAMATION

Whereas, the former President of Libertatem, Pevvania, is worthy of praise

Whereas, the preponderance of the population of the Region of Libertatem approve of the state of the Region and the job performance of Pevvania

Whereas, President Pevvania's term accomplished more than any other existing term

Now, Therefore, I, Humpheria, President of Libertatem, by the virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and further legislation thereof of the Region of Libertatem, do so order the following

1. The fourteenth day of December shall be regionally observed at all regional offices, embassies, and properties as Pevvania Day

2. This Order shall take effect immediately

Given, under my hand and seal this sixteenth day of September, Two Thousand Fourteen, and of the Founding of Libertatem, the Second.

Signed, Attest, Counsel,

[nation=short+noflag]Humpheria[/nation]

VI

President of Libertatem

Cool

Muh Roads wrote:If you do and it goes through, I'll let you take one of my days with Humpy.

^

Hi there ! Did something important happened during the last few weeks ?

"So what does everyone think about cat abortions? The more the merrier, that's what I say, about cat abortions."

Well that's enough internet for one day

Yrellian Confederacy wrote:Hi there ! Did something important happened during the last few weeks ?

The banishment of Einsiev, which can be read about in Court Room A

Lack There Of wrote:"So what does everyone think about cat abortions? The more the merrier, that's what I say, about cat abortions."

Well that's enough internet for one day

Cat abortions are a thing...?

Muh Roads wrote:Cat abortions are a thing...?

You can abort any baby, if you try hard enough.

What are the views on abortion here?

Rotgeheim wrote:What are the views on abortion here?

I support all rights unless they harm someone else. Same with abortion.

Humpheria wrote:I support all rights unless they harm someone else. Same with abortion.

So you're pro-abortion. Bingo.

You're probably pro-life, actually. What can "harm someone else" is subject to debate.

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Rotgeheim wrote:What are the views on abortion here?

Pro-Life except in cases of Rape or Threatening to mothers life.

If you have the sex. You shouldn't kill a human to escape it's consequence.

The Time Alliance wrote:If you have the sex. You shouldn't kill a human to escape it's consequence.

Are you anti-death penalty then?

The Time Alliance wrote:ePro-Life except in cases of Rape or Threatening to mothers life.

If you have the sex. You shouldn't kill a human to escape it's consequence.

How do I agree with you?! Didnt see that coming.

Rotgeheim wrote:So you're pro-abortion. Bingo.

You're probably pro-life, actually. What can "harm someone else" is subject to debate.

Pro-choice and pro-life are rhetorical terms designed to garner support for one side or the other. I am anti-abortion.

Rotgeheim wrote:Are you anti-death penalty then?

Pro capital punishment.

Rotgeheim wrote:Are you anti-death penalty then?

Yes I am.

Humpheria wrote:Pro-choice and pro-life are rhetorical terms designed to garner support for one side or the other. I am anti-abortion.

Pro capital punishment.

I'm personally pro-choice, or however you put it. I'm also pro-capital punishment.

Abortion is a really tough issue for me. I just go back and forth. I never really have a rock hard stance. My usual cop out when asked is "States Rights".

Death Penalty? Only for the insane sickos like the school shooting guy etc

Atomic Fest wrote:Death Penalty? Only for the insane sickos like the school shooting guy etc

I'd prefer the death penalty to be used for offenses like high treason and murder, actually.

Rotgeheim wrote:I'd prefer the death penalty to be used for offenses like high treason and murder, actually.

Nah not treason. Only like say the guy who is convicted of several counts of murder. Over two, bye bye you

Atomic Fest wrote:Nah not treason. Only like say the guy who is convicted of several counts of murder. Over two, bye bye you

If someone gives away military operations orders that leads to the deaths of several soldiers, I'm sure that I would wish for that man to be dead.

Rotgeheim wrote:If someone gives away military operations orders that leads to the deaths of several soldiers, I'm sure that I would wish for that man to be dead.

If his actions led to the death of multiple people, yes he should be a candidate for the death penalty

I am the most "liberal" person here, granted since I am from New Jersey, and my libertarian politics. I am generally in favor of abortion and strongly against the death penalty. While I am in favor of the second amendment, I'd rather see people voluntarily giving up their guns in urban areas.

Abortion- Conflicting for a Libertarian.

What do you guys think of dc becoming a state? I oppose it. I think dc residents should be given voting rights in the states that surround the Capital.

News update:

"The Right Wing Uprising may have been dissolved, but a new alliance is in the works and the destruction of communist and antifa regions will continue as usual."

From the Fascist Union's rmb. So, looks like the nutzis aren't waving white flags after all. As suspected, a change in colors means nothing. We will continue to fight them in the beaches, and on the hills, and in the streets, and whatever.

Libertarian Hero wrote:What do you guys think of dc becoming a state? I oppose it. I think dc residents should be given voting rights in the states that surround the Capital.

There are multiple things wrong with that.

DC does not meet the constitutional requirements to qualify for statehood.

Residents do not receive state voting rights because DC was designed to be exempt from any one state for a reason.

On a related note, I am in favor of the capital of the United States to be moved to Denver. It is a highly defend-able area and it is more central, not the most central, but better than DC.

Does anyone know the difference between capital and capitol?

Capital is like the town and a capital letter.

Capitol is the Congress building.

Libertarian Hero wrote:Capital is like the town and a capital letter.

Capitol is the Congress building.

Close, it is more inclusive than that.

Capital is a municipal or provincial seat of government

Capitol is a physical building or complex in which a government is housed

I'm Anti-Abortion. I support the protection of all baby animals by law, last I checked humans were animals too.

Humpheria wrote:There are multiple things wrong with that.

DC does not meet the constitutional requirements to qualify for statehood.

Residents do not receive state voting rights because DC was designed to be exempt from any one state for a reason.

On a related note, I am in favor of the capital of the United States to be moved to Denver. It is a highly defend-able area and it is more central, not the most central, but better than DC.

The Capitol was considered being out in Kansas because no matter where you came in it would take a while before you could reach it to attack

Atomic Fest wrote:The Capitol was considered being out in Kansas because no matter where you came in it would take a while before you could reach it to attack

capital*

Humpheria wrote:Close, it is more inclusive than that.

Capital is a municipal or provincial seat of government

Capitol is a physical building or complex in which a government is housed

Don't forget "Capital" also means money or financial assets as well.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:Don't forget "Capital" also means money or financial assets as well.

But, of course.

Bonne nuit, mes amis.

Hump why don't you just surrender already!

The Amarican Empire wrote:Hump why don't you just surrender already!

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Miencraft wrote:Ohohohohoh baguette ohohohoh

I believe you are looking for hon hon hon baguette hon hon hon

Humpheria wrote:I believe you are looking for hon hon hon baguette hon hon hon

That would work too, I guess.

I just write it out as "Ohohohoh" because it's easier to do really quickly than "honhonhonhon" and it kinda sounds the same if you slap a French accent on it.

I don't support the death penalty... at least, as far as the government's ability to decide who dies.

Baguettes , tour eifel et les ont cédées . Ce sont des choses auxquelles je pense quand j'entends France. Rappelez- Canada parle français aussi!

Viva La Google!

Muh Roads wrote:Baguettes , tour eifel et les ont cédées . Ce sont des choses auxquelles je pense quand j'entends France. Rappelez- Canada parle français aussi!

Viva La Google!

Canada ne parle pas français, Québec parle français. Il y a beaucoup plus à la France.

Muh Roads wrote:

Viva La Google!

You and me both

I'm closing the embassy. I figured Humph or Liberosia would since we are with the left, but it never happened.

Muh Roads wrote:I don't support the death penalty... at least, as far as the government's ability to decide who dies.

Agreed. Perhaps it could be put to a vote in the state a criminal is imprisoned? Everyone votes and decides if someone is to die, not just a handful of people. I really think a lot more things should be put to a national or state wide vote considering how it's not that hard to count votes anymore, it wouldn't be much of an issue.

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:Agreed. Perhaps it could be put to a vote in the state a criminal is imprisoned? Everyone votes and decides if someone is to die, not just a handful of people. I really think a lot more things should be put to a national or state wide vote considering how it's not that hard to count votes anymore, it wouldn't be much of an issue.

Not a bad idea.

Muh Roads wrote:Not a bad idea.

It obviously has a few problems, but overall I think the benefits of more national and state wide votes on more social issues far outweigh the negatives.

So I guess I'm back now after like 2 months

No! Sentencing must not be Democratic!

The Amarican Empire wrote:No! Sentencing must not be Democratic!

So... your against juries?

Muh Roads wrote:So... your against juries?

If im not mistaken we have judges to sentence

Shermaniya wrote:I'm closing the embassy. I figured Humph or Liberosia would since we are with the left, but it never happened.

No, you tried to join the Left and they rejected you. Now you're just attempting to get in good with them because you're done playing a conservative. Time for your next role.

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