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*begins necromancy spell to summon Pev from the dead*

Rateria, Nova Condealism

Muh Roads wrote:*begins necromancy spell to summon Pev from the dead*

Please

Rateria, Nova Condealism

Humpheria wrote:Please

I have him added on steam.. hmm,

Humpheria wrote:Only AG and SG can argue in court. Do you wanna be SG?

Crickets?

Muh Roads wrote:I have him added on steam.. hmm,

Tell him Humph said he better get his British ass back here.

Rateria

Humpheria wrote:Only AG and SG can argue in court. Do you wanna be SG?

Sounds like work, and I'm already a Senator.

Humpheria wrote:Tell him Humph said he better get his British ass back here.

*Australian

Rateria

Nova Condealism wrote:Sounds like work, and I'm already a Senator.

How often do we have trials m8? Come on it'll be dope I promise.

Muh Roads wrote:*Australian

Whatever nationality he identified with today*

Rateria

Humpheria wrote:How often do we have trials m8? Come on it'll be dope I promise.

Fine, but only if I get to wear bunny ears in the courtroom

Rateria

Nova Condealism wrote:Fine, but only if I get to wear bunny ears in the courtroom

Sure.

Get read up on the case so far on the forums and talk to Muh to formulate a defense strategy. If you have any questions you can ask me.

Nova Condealism wrote:Fine, but only if I get to wear bunny ears in the courtroom

You should, and I'll bring my pet weasel.

Rateria, Nova Condealism

Humpheria wrote:Sure.

Get read up on the case so far on the forums and talk to Muh to formulate a defense strategy. If you have any questions you can ask me.

Our only defense should be Hillary Clinton tbh.

Miencraft, Rateria, Nova Condealism

Muh Roads wrote:Our only defense should be Hillary Clinton tbh.

Also none of the charges are persecutable under current libertatem law. Case should be dismissed. ;)

Miencraft, Rateria, Nova Condealism

Muh Roads wrote:Also none of the charges are persecutable under current libertatem law. Case should be dismissed. ;)

Both the plaintiff and defendant shall have a proper and just chance to make their claims and defenses.

Rateria

Humpheria wrote:Both the plaintiff and defendant shall have a proper and just chance to make their claims and defenses.
Hey bruh, you approved it, wanna go? No seriously, wanna go?

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:Very Muh

So Roads

Much Internal

Such Affairs

Many Manager

So amaze

All solid review of my time as manager

Rateria

Muh Roads wrote:Hey bruh, you approved it, wanna go? No seriously, wanna go?

I'll hold you in contempt matey, don't try me.

Muh Roads wrote:All solid review of my time as manager

Wow you really sifted through the ol' RMB to find that didn't you?

Muh Roads, Rateria

Ronald Reagan And Rick Grimes wrote:Wow you really sifted through the ol' RMB to find that didn't you?

Kinda, I was looking for things pertaining to internal affairs and came across that lol

Humpheria wrote:I'll hold you in contempt matey, don't try me.

Hold me close, real close.

wow theres been a lot of CTE's recently

The United States Of Patriots wrote:wow theres been a lot of CTE's recently

Indeed. I find it quite concerning.

Humpheria wrote:Only AG and SG can argue in court. Do you wanna be SG?

I still disagree with this rule. Can you not hire a lawyer or represent yourself? That's not very.... libertarian.

Muh Roads, Rateria, Nova Condealism

Libertitad wrote:I still disagree with this rule. Can you not hire a lawyer or represent yourself? That's not very.... libertarian.

I totally agree but the judicial processes aren't subject to political ideology.

Libertitad wrote:I still disagree with this rule. Can you not hire a lawyer or represent yourself? That's not very.... libertarian.

You and I will be the best of friends.

Humpheria wrote:I totally agree but the judicial processes aren't subject to political ideology.

....HAHAHA! Please stop man, I can't control my laughter!

Nova Condealism

Muh Roads wrote:You and I will be the best of friends.

....HAHAHA! Please stop man, I can't control my laughter!

I live to entertain, Muh

Humpheria wrote:I totally agree but the judicial processes aren't subject to political ideology.

This doesn't explain the rule. I question the validity of the judicial process as well as the equality of any trial. What if the AG is an awesome lawyer and the SG is terrible?

As a Senatory, a very powerful senator I would like to initiate a vote that changes this law. Do I have another senator that also believes that defendants should have the right to hire their own lawyer or defend themselves?

Nova Condealism

Libertitad wrote:This doesn't explain the rule. I question the validity of the judicial process as well as the equality of any trial. What if the AG is an awesome lawyer and the SG is terrible?

As a Senatory, a very powerful senator I would like to initiate a vote that changes this law. Do I have another senator that also believes that defendants should have the right to hire their own lawyer or defend themselves?

Not constitutional.

It was procedural policy before the amendment and it was made a part of the constitution with the Judicial Amendment. The abilities of the attorneys should be a part of their appointment. Example: Hyderbourg was interested in SG but I don't know how good he would be with the law. Condealism is a very skilled lawyer, so I appointed him. It is meant to preserve the integrity and uniformity of the court. Any citizen that feels that they're counsel is not properly presenting them has the ability to seek recourse through my chambers.

Libertitad

Trump picked my governor for his VP...

Libertitad

Humpheria wrote:Trump picked my governor for his VP...

He's my governor too. I love his fiscal policies but socially he is so ridiculously right it sucks.

Humpheria, Rateria, Salton Juncture

Too bad he antagonized New Mexico's governor--picking a hispanic woman as his running mate would have caused a lot of Dem heads to explode.

Libertitad wrote:He's my governor too. I love his fiscal policies but socially he is so ridiculously right it sucks.

I agree. The rfra was a travesty.

New Jaslandia

Castaway Island Of Wilson wrote:Too bad he antagonized New Mexico's governor--picking a hispanic woman as his running mate would have caused a lot of Dem heads to explode.

He didn't want it to look like he was pandering to voters with a minority veep.

My sincerest gratitude for your vote, Macona!

Hello every one!

Castaway Island Of Wilson

Sweet Meteor Of Death wrote:Hello every one!

Hello.

Sweet Meteor Of Death

WHAT!?!?!?! http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36809083

Best wishes to the people of Turkey as well as the armed forces we have over there.

The United States Of Patriots

I love me a revolution in the morning,

smells like GUILLOTINE

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I love me a revolution in the morning,

smells like GUILLOTINE

More like a risk of US intervention...

*shudders*

Salton Juncture

*yawn* holes in the plot, yo.

Teuberland wrote:More like a risk of US intervention...

*shudders*

What's wrong with that? We have some heavy duty interests there.

The Ambassador To The Clfr wrote:What's wrong with that? We have some heavy duty interests there.

We do, but the idea that we would be getting into yet another conflict is very unsettling.

That being said, the attacks have been limited to Istanbul and Ankara as far as I know. I don't think the coup will favor the military, but rather the government.

Republic Of Minerva wrote:I love me a revolution in the morning,

smells like GUILLOTINE

Right after Bastille day as well...

Coincidence!?

Yeah

Teuberland

Nova Condealism wrote:Condealism (Futilely Running) for President 2016...

That is all. Vote for (someone other than) Condealism!

Ha who's laughing now?!

wait...

Congratulations Miencraft on your win!

Miencraft, Muh Roads, Rateria

#AuditLibertatem

Teuberland

The United States Of Patriots wrote:Ha who's laughing now?!

wait...

Congratulations Miencraft on your win!

Voting for Condealism? It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him.

Miencraft

So that happened.

Anywhatsit, who all wants in on the cabinet? No Senators, but everyone else who wants a job can come get one. Just don't suck at it.

I would be willing to be Minister of the Interior and create a citizenship approval process to promote more active participation while safeguarding security.

It would be a welcome break from volleyball.

Libertitad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SKaGRC6xgE&feature=youtu.be

Miencraft wrote:[nation=short]Hyderbourg[/nation] TG'd me about the SG position, but because I have no control over that I directed him to you.

I guess he either hasn't been on or just totally ignored my response.

Sorry guys I have been out of town, not able to really check as often as I would like to. I would still love to be the solicitor general.

Greetings again, friendly nations of Libertatem. Our people, the people of the plains, are in crisis. When the Coumba came and painted our ancestral lands purple, we tried using milk, bleach, white-out, but nothing would restore the plains to us.

Finally we found a place we could go, a place that remained plain. But then we woke up and found everything painted yellow. We know who did this: it was the Libertitad:

http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=251537

We do not wish war, especially since our fierce warriors are yellow in the belly, have a yellow stripe down their backs, and are yellow everywhere else for that matter.

But we ask the Libertitad and the Coumba to return our land back to us so we may live on the plains once again.

And please to the other nations, take your paint somewhere away from the Americas since we in Indigenous Libertatem were here long before.

New Jaslandia

Hello, Libertatem!

Greetings from the Central Pacific Empire! I trust you're all well and encourage you to visit whenever you're free!

Best wishes

Conta

Sweet Meteor Of Death wrote:Hello every one!

Welcome and thanks for providing us with an alternative choice in the November election.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/giant-meteor-of-death-hitting-earth-poll-voters-prefer-over-hillary-clinton-donald-trump

Miencraft, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Sweet Meteor Of Death

I don't need a piece of paper for my rights.

chill, my entire country's history was always in that area, the plains is where my capital city is ..

you can have central america if you want or the areas west of us and east of us, not mexico or our part of canada though

So I got rid of yellow in the WFE, at least as far as "Libertatem" and "President" being yellow.

That yellow is waaaay too hard to see on light themes. I'll try to keep adjusting the color scheme to see what else works.

Rateria, Teuberland

Orange works. Orange is yellow-ish. Good enough.

Teuberland

Miencraft wrote:Orange works. Orange is yellow-ish. Good enough.

The pink for Attorney-General is a bit of an odd choice, but I can live with it.

We are delighted to share the plains with you, Coumba but until recently the plains have always been...plain. Not purple.

Can you paint them back to be plain? Then we would have no quarrel with your great Nation and we could live in peace.

The current colors of AG and Interior are both kind of magic eye picture right now.

New Jaslandia, Teuberland

Shirayuki Mizore wrote:The current colors of AG and Interior are both kind of magic eye picture right now.

Yeah, well.

Interior's always been like that. I'll see about making it regular blue. AG, I dunno. There are only so many colors you can use that work on both dark and light.

Miencraft wrote:It works now.

Yeah, much better.

Miencraft wrote:So I got rid of yellow in the WFE, at least as far as "Libertatem" and "President" being yellow.

That yellow is waaaay too hard to see on light themes. I'll try to keep adjusting the color scheme to see what else works.

THANK YOU!

That has been bugging me since I joined

Rateria, Salton Juncture

New Jaslandia wrote:The pink for Attorney-General is a bit of an odd choice, but I can live with it.

What are you kidding its faaaaaaaaaaabulous!

New Jaslandia

Why, hello there.

Because somebody (glares at [nation=short]Nova_Condealism[/nation]) had to be on vacation, we need a lawyer for Muh Roads. There is a pretty good pay. Terrible benefits, but hey, we're capitalists.

New Jaslandia

I enthusiastically volunteer with little to know knowledge of what that even entails.

New Jaslandia, Republic Of Minerva

Tobellya wrote:I enthusiastically volunteer with little to know knowledge of what that even entails.

You. I like you.

New Jaslandia

Humpheria wrote:Because somebody (glares at [nation=short]Nova_Condealism[/nation]) had to be on vacation, we need a lawyer for Muh Roads. There is a pretty good pay. Terrible benefits, but hey, we're capitalists.

Ill pay you in hugs and eggs.

Tobellya wrote:I enthusiastically volunteer with little to know knowledge of what that even entails.

Who are you?

Muh Roads wrote:Who are you?

That is a deep question. I am the completely legitimate democratically elected leader of Tobellya, who rose to power quite suddenly in a flash of national unity earlier today. Pleased to meet you.

Nice to meet you, Tobellya, but be warned they eat new Nations around here for breakfast, and Roads already has the eggs ready.

You can read about the case here...

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=bad_libertopia/detail=factbook/id=659798

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=bad_libertopia/detail=factbook/id=661692

Muh Roads, Rateria

Tobellya wrote:That is a deep question. I am the completely legitimate democratically elected leader of Tobellya, who rose to power quite suddenly in a flash of national unity earlier today. Pleased to meet you.

Good to meet you too. I'm Roads, former president (check the recruiting scores, yo) and present Cult Idol.

Rateria

I formely protest the courts for censoring my statements and question Judge Humpheria's legitimacy as a court appointed judge.

Muh Roads wrote:I formely protest the courts for censoring my statements and question Judge Humpheria's legitimacy as a court appointed judge.

No censorship is present. Your remarks were not changed in any way. There is simply a denotation that your remarks are out of order. There is no deletion or censorship. I did not allow Plaintiff to address the court and I will not allow Defendant. It is fairness. Got a complaint? Tell It to the judge.

Humpheria wrote:No censorship is present. Your remarks were not changed in any way. There is simply a denotation that your remarks are out of order. There is no deletion or censorship. I did not allow Plaintiff to address the court and I will not allow Defendant. It is fairness. Got a complaint? Tell It to the judge.

THE RECORD WILL NOT CONTAIN THIS TEXT AS IT IS OUT OF ORDER AND MALICIOUSLY POSTED is censorship and unconstitutional

Article VI

Rights

Section I

All nations will have an indisputable right to self-expression, of privacy, to practice religion, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Bad Libertopia wrote:Nice to meet you, Tobellya, but be warned they eat new Nations around here for breakfast, and Roads already has the eggs ready.

You can read about the case here...

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=bad_libertopia/detail=factbook/id=659798

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=bad_libertopia/detail=factbook/id=661692

If your such a dissident of how we do things here, why do you keep coming back?

Because, like Clucky, I am a free individual. And maybe my reasonings too are classified.

Muh Roads

Muh Roads wrote:THE RECORD WILL NOT CONTAIN THIS TEXT AS IT IS OUT OF ORDER AND MALICIOUSLY POSTED is censorship and unconstitutional

Article VI

Rights

Section I

All nations will have an indisputable right to self-expression, of privacy, to practice religion, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Amendment I, §2, s2

"The Regional Justice shall have complete control of the Judiciary". Courts are part of the Judiciary, and as such the RJ can run the Courts however he wants.

Greetings again to the Great Nations who color our plains with their paint:

http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=251537

After imbibing the ceremonial limoncello and eating the hearty yellow squash the Council has decreed that we should not make war with the yellow [nation]Libertitad[/nation] or the purple [nation]Coumba[/nations].

We will surrender these lands to them with many yellow and purple tears shed along the way.

We will march to the remaining plains: the land on the map shaped like a limp penis that lies westward. We ask please that [nation]Miencraft[/nation] keep this land plain. We are happy to share the plains with any nation, but only ask that it remain plain so we do not wake up one morning to find some strange paint on the ground and on our crops and on the buffalo.

Miencraft wrote:Amendment I, §2, s2

"The Regional Justice shall have complete control of the Judiciary". Courts are part of the Judiciary, and as such the RJ can run the Courts however he wants.

This amendment goes directly against article VI, section I.

Muh Roads wrote:This amendment goes directly against article VI, section I.

Therefor, unconstitutional.

As a gun enthusiast I am so beyond done with the purposeful misinformation in the media.

AR stands for armalite rifle not assault rifle! And you will be hard pressed to find one that uses "clips"

Sorry I had to get this off of my chest somewhere.

Miencraft, Muh Roads, Libertitad, Salton Juncture, Sweet Meteor Of Death

The United States Of Patriots wrote:As a gun enthusiast I am so beyond done with the purposeful misinformation in the media.

AR stands for armalite rifle not assault rifle! And you will be hard pressed to find one that uses "clips"

Sorry I had to get this off of my chest somewhere.

#realfax

The United States Of Patriots wrote:As a gun enthusiast I am so beyond done with the purposeful misinformation in the media.

AR stands for armalite rifle not assault rifle! And you will be hard pressed to find one that uses "clips"

Sorry I had to get this off of my chest somewhere.

I think clip is understandable when explaining things to the public, but making AR's out to be machine guns is a gross misrepresentation of the weapon. But then again, has the media done anything right lately, on either side of the spectrum?

Miencraft, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Salton Juncture, Sweet Meteor Of Death

Muh Roads wrote:Therefor, unconstitutional.

Amendment I, §2, S2 is not in violation of Article VI because omitting statements from an official record is not in violation of the self-expression. You were allowed to express yourself, it's simply that the information you provided was deemed inappropriate and unimportant by the Regional Justice, the authority on such issues, and therefore not included in the record. I believe this happens quite often in federal courts of all levels as well.

Miencraft

I'm happy we were able to repeal "Nuclear Arms Protocol" in the World Assembly, especially after all the telegrams I sent to WA Members, but the expected passage of the newly proposed "Humanitarian Aid Expansion Act" is looking hard to prevent at this point. Hoping the World Assembly members in this region can vote against, if not we can work towards repealing.

For someone new to everything, could you explain why you think this act is bad?

Hyderbourg

Tobellya wrote:For someone new to everything, could you explain why you think this act is bad?

Well, I think here in Libertatem we like to pride ourselves upon increased freedoms across the board. The proposed Humanitarian Aid Expansion Act mandates that host nations allow any personnel working with humanitarian organizations that are involved with the relief effort to enter afflicted areas, with all personnel being subject to any extensive security checks imposed by the host nation. If the personnel pass the security checks, the host nation must provide transportation so the personnel can reach the afflicted areas, if deemed necessary. So basically as long as you cannot prove that humanitarian aid workers will threaten your nation bodily, (which is hard to do to begin with, how do prove a murderer will kill someone before they do it?) you must let them enter your country and transport them to the area deemed afflicted. See, Hyderbourg, as much as any other nation, loves to aid fellow countries when they are in peril, and we love to be aided when in peril, yet it is not the place of an international organization to decide this for us or countless countries. This is a choice that local legislators should be able to make, as they more so understand the needs of the citizens in a specific nation. These legislators also more so understand the relationships their country holds with other nations and should be able to deem whether or not someone is permitted to enter, regardless. A country should always have sovereignty over its borders. Further, this proposal clearly indicates that there will be instated “The International Humanitarian Aid Coordination Committee” which will have permission to constantly send “unbiased” inspectors to member nations whenever their definition of a natural disaster is met. Due to the overlooking of the abilities of local legislators to themselves do good deeds without an international organization shoving mandates down its throat, its possibility for abuse with its broad powers, its infringement upon border regulation sovereignty, and everything else mentioned, I cannot stand idly by while this act is passed. (Sorry for possible typos)

Miencraft, Kumquat Cove, Rateria, The United States Of Patriots, Libertitad, Tobellya

Hyderbourg wrote:snip

Thank you for the very thorough explanation.

Hyderbourg

Hyderbourg wrote:Amendment I, §2, S2 is not in violation of Article VI because omitting statements from an official record is not in violation of the self-expression. You were allowed to express yourself, it's simply that the information you provided was deemed inappropriate and unimportant by the Regional Justice, the authority on such issues, and therefore not included in the record. I believe this happens quite often in federal courts of all levels as well.

It is unconstitutional because we're being told the regional justice is above the law when it comes to the Judiciary branch. He should be held to the same oppressive non-sense the rest of us have to deal with. Power mongers.

Muh Roads wrote:It is unconstitutional because we're being told the regional justice is above the law when it comes to the Judiciary branch. He should be held to the same oppressive non-sense the rest of us have to deal with. Power mongers.

No it's saying that the RJ is in charge of the courtroom within the law. The office has autonomy from the government in the court's. Crying censorship and oppression every time someone disagrees with you is not the way. Conduct yourself in at least respectful manner and get your point across. I did not change your words. I did not block your words from being seen. I'm not even going to hold you in contempt simply out of respect to you.

Is it impossible to just efficiently conduct the business of the day without going into some tangent about oppression and closeted statists? Frankly, I'm a little surprised.

Tobellya wrote:I think clip is understandable when explaining things to the public...

Yeah I understand that one. Just a pet peeve.

[nation=short]Hyderbourg[/nation] has officially been appointed Solicitor General. As such, he will act as the representation of [nation=short]Muh_Roads[/nation] in the highly contentious trial of Bad Libertopia v. Muh Roads.

Miencraft, Rateria, Hyderbourg

The petitions of [nation=short]Bad_Libertopia[/nation] have all been processed in the Clerk's Office. [nation=short]Jaslandia[/nation]

http://libertatem.freeforums.net/thread/34/clerks-office?page=1&scrollTo=68

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