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Penocamptt wrote:There should be a treaty for nations with multiple T's in their name!

I call it The Treaty of T's or something like that.

Member States can set up treaties for whatever they like. We also have TATATATAAATATA for member states whose name starts with T and ends with A.

Typica, Araine, Jazur, Morrigan, The Blue Fire, Ansgar, Penocamptt

[spoiler=Re: The Rabbit thing]

OOC: Sorry if this is a bit late, I was getting my vaccinations done

Melenavenia wrote:We could definitely discuss such a thing. In private. We don't want anyone to hear our defense plans that shouldn't hear them. Maybe starting an impossible meat industry could work to lower rabbit fatalities. And yes, I have small ears.

What if we brought together all the rabbits together to discuss defense plans, but not allow any rabbits larger than you? Or... actually, how large are you exactly? Bigger or smaller than a wolf? Also, couldn't you have you predator friends protect us from the polar bears? Or at least help with the impossible meat thing.

Melenavenia wrote:We could certainly measure that. Otters don't [I]commonly[/I] kill rabbits. I would know because I've had my fair share of run ins with them. But if given the chance they would certainly chow down on one.

Ha, the otters certainly wouldn't kill you; surely you're bigger than them. I've seen that some otters do attack rabbits, search it up. Anyways, who should make the machine thing?

Melenavenia wrote:As a very large rabbit a lot of predators are too afraid to mess with me. And sometimes I talk to them and we share our stories.

...You have made sure that your predator friends won't attack us, right?[/spoiler]

Typica, Melenavenia, Tiralta, The Blue Fire, Ban Oldern

[spoiler=Rabbit stuff]

The Pacific Northwest wrote:And you’ve never been curious about anything else? Like meat?

Come to think of it, wouldn’t a rabbit that comes from an incredibly inhospitable environment be more likely to have resorted to eating anything to survive out of necessity than one from a more temperate climate, especially since large animals require more food to sustain themselves? Did you just get very lucky year after year until heading down here?

I'm curious about all the new flora I've been missing out on down south. As a very large fluffy rabbit I can access resources that others are unable to, so while I have to eat a lot I can also eat a lot more things more easily.

The Pacific Northwest wrote:If I’m going to be cooked and eaten, I think I’d prefer to be dead beforehand instead of being cooked alive or eaten alive.

Predators don't care about what their prey feels, so I understand the fear.

The Pacific Northwest wrote:But shouldn’t all Refugi be aware of the defense plan so we can protect ourselves and our glorious region from the imminent polar bear incursion?

Well, if there is a possibility of there being infiltrators in our ranks it should remain behind closed doors amongst trusted individuals. Though even those we trust could spill the beans if they were caught by a smart predator willing to let them live for information in the expectation that a larger meal awaits them in the future.

The Pacific Northwest wrote:You’ve been befriending animals that enjoy eating other members of your alleged species?

I'm not befriending them. It's like chatting with a stranger. They can't hurt me easily and even though they're technically my enemy I [I]could[/I] get hurt if I try to attack them instead. So we talk. It is a strange dynamic, admittedly.

Estebere wrote:What if we brought together all the rabbits together to discuss defense plans, but not allow any rabbits larger than you? Or... actually, how large are you exactly? Bigger or smaller than a wolf? Also, couldn't you have you predator friends protect us from the polar bears? Or at least help with the impossible meat thing.

I may be large but I'm not invincible so I think I should be involved. After all, I'm pretty sure I would be a valuable asset in the case of a polar bear attack. I'm about 4 feet (1.2 meters) at the shoulders. And like I said to TPN, it's more of a weird casual stranger thing. Also, I think most predators would still prefer real meat even if it'd be better to go with impossible meat, I mean take a look at humans. I can't control their actions any more than they can control mine.

Estebere wrote:Ha, the otters certainly wouldn't kill you; surely you're bigger than them. I've seen that some otters do attack rabbits, search it up. Anyways, who should make the machine thing?

A few have tried to mess with me. They have learned their lesson. What machine are you talking about?[/spoiler]

Typica, Tiralta, The Blue Fire, Ban Oldern

Just gonna let y'all know Her Erminess knows exactly what type of animals y'all are and she's telling me all of them so

look just both of you cut it out or you guys might end up not being rabbits anymore cuz she's about done with y'all's stuff

Delta Vega Iv, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Hi CalRef! Working on some Christmas presents today :3 How's everyone doing?

Chacapoya, Typica, Melenavenia, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Morrigan wrote:Hi CalRef! Working on some Christmas presents today :3 How's everyone doing?

Good. We're currently arguing about the identity of some self-proclaimed rabbits.

Since you are a rabbit (I hope), would you maybe be able to weigh in?

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Melenavenia, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Ban Oldern wrote:Good. We're currently arguing about the identity of some self-proclaimed rabbits.

Since you are a rabbit (I hope), would you maybe be able to weigh in?

Morrigan is a guinea pig and incredibly offended by this. :P

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Morrigan wrote:Morrigan is a guinea pig and incredibly offended by this. :P

oh

alr then

sorry

Typica, Jazur, Morrigan, The Blue Fire

Morrigan wrote:Morrigan is a guinea pig and incredibly offended by this. :P

misgendered but it's species instead

call that mistaxonomised

Chacapoya, Typica, Melenavenia, Araine, Tiralta, Morrigan, The Blue Fire, Pantumaca

Jazur wrote:misgendered but it's species instead

call that mistaxonomised

I committed the first mistaxonomy and am incredibly regretful

Typica, Melenavenia, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, Morrigan, The Blue Fire, Pantumaca

Penocamptt wrote:There should be a treaty for nations with multiple T's in their name!

I call it The Treaty of T's or something like that.

The Tttttttreattttty

Typica, Tiralta, The Blue Fire

The Pacific Northwest wrote:The Tttttttreattttty

Notttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt enough Ttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt's. Itttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt should be called Tttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttthe Ttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttreatttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttty

darn that was hard to say

my tounge is numb now :(

Typica, The Pacific Northwest, The Blue Fire, Penocamptt

Tiralta wrote:Big news coming out of Dalta Vaga Far today!

Dalta Vaga Far, ruled by Tiny Niece, the evil twin of Tiny Nephew (ruler of Delta Vega IV)!

Typica, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Delta Vega Iv wrote:Dalta Vaga Far, ruled by Timy Niece, the evil twin of Tiny Nephew (ruler of Delta Vega IV)!

Well, if we do end up having to fight our alt-right opposites, at least you know who you're fighting.

Delta Vega Iv, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Ban Oldern wrote:I committed the first mistaxonomy and am incredibly regretful

this whole exchange made me audibly laugh. thank you guys people living beings for that. having a rough day and this made it better :)

Typica, Tiralta, Morrigan

The Blue Fire wrote:this whole exchange made me audibly laugh. thank you guys people living beings for that. having a rough day and this made it better :)

sorry for the rough day, hope tomorrow's better for you

Typica, The Blue Fire

Morrigan wrote:Hi CalRef! Working on some Christmas presents today :3 How's everyone doing?

I went to Manchester to see some comedy and had a nice time!

Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Jazur, Morrigan, The Blue Fire

Tiralta wrote:Ban Oldern St Leone New Atlantic

I've got two election questions for you all!

What would you say is your favourite thing about our map? And if elected, is there anything you would seek to change?

1) I love how people have taken our map and made their own maps with it.

2) If I am to be elected I vow to update the map at least once a month, update the treaties map, and I may also have some plans on unifying the two maps into one, but I want to know how people feel about that first.

Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire, Pantumaca

Morrigan wrote:Hi CalRef! Working on some Christmas presents today :3 How's everyone doing?

I’m good! Currently taking my lunch break at work (even though it’s 5pm.) How are you?

Chacapoya, Typica, Tiralta, Morrigan

The Blue Fire wrote:this whole exchange made me audibly laugh. thank you guys people living beings for that. having a rough day and this made it better :)

I hope things ease for you soon!!

Tiralta wrote:I went to Manchester to see some comedy and had a nice time!

That sounds great!! I should go see some comedy, it sounds like a fun time, you have inspired me :P

Araine wrote:I’m good! Currently taking my lunch break at work (even though it’s 5pm.) How are you?

I'm good!! Working on some Christmas presents! And yessss lunch is nebulous and you should eat it at work whenever would be most inconvenient to capitalism.

Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Tiralta, The Blue Fire

Sorry New Atlantic and St Leone, it appears as though I accidentally ended the council seat we're all running for.

Ban Oldern wrote:Sorry New Atlantic and St Leone, it appears as though I accidentally ended the council seat we're all running for.

Your activity or lack thereof is irrelevant to my adversity to the statute. I voted against it at the time, was not consulted, and did not consent to the map management being taken over by another party.

Refuge Isle wrote:Your activity or lack thereof is irrelevant to my adversity to the statute. I voted against it at the time, was not consulted, and did not consent to the map management being taken over by another party.

Yes, but I [I]am[/I] responsible for turning the format of the map into a debatable subject. There's probably a decent chance my election bid is in whole or in majority the reason it recently came to your mind.

Ban Oldern wrote:Yes, but I [I]am[/I] responsible for turning the format of the map into a debatable subject. There's probably a decent chance my election bid is in whole or in majority the reason it recently came to your mind.

My intention was to become more active during the upcoming term when Sylh Alanor said that she would be returning to activity during the upcoming term. I have since and so far created three RRS proposals of which this is the third to address issues that I feel the region has (I suspect that I will yet propose more). I intended to campaign for SR 28's repeal as soon as it was passed, but I thought that a term with zero input on my part would best illustrate that it was a poor idea.

Ban Oldern wrote:I committed the first mistaxonomy and am incredibly regretful

I'm pretty sure I'm being intensively mixtaxonomized by multiple individuals just because of my unusual appearance.

Typica, Araine, Jazur, The Blue Fire, Pantumaca

Melenavenia wrote:I'm pretty sure I'm being intensively mixtaxonomized by multiple individuals just because of my unusual appearance.

only pretty sure?

Melenavenia, Jazur, The Blue Fire, Martial Law Nation

Melenavenia wrote:I'm pretty sure I'm being intensively mixtaxonomized by multiple individuals just because of my unusual appearance.

We can’t be too careful though, not when potentially being eaten is on the table

Typica, Melenavenia, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Ban Oldern wrote:only pretty sure?

Completely sure.

The Pacific Northwest wrote:We can’t be too careful though, not when potentially being eaten is on the table

I'm clearly a rabbit... 🙄

Typica, Jazur, The Blue Fire

TalvezOUT 💜

Tiralta

Refuge Isle wrote:Your activity or lack thereof is irrelevant to my adversity to the statute. I voted against it at the time, was not consulted, and did not consent to the map management being taken over by another party.

Wait did I miss something?

What happened?

St Leone wrote:Wait did I miss something?

What happened?

You can follow the conversation from the original comment here. You can also find the proposed RRS changes eliminating the Councillor of Cartography position on the forum.

Araine, St Leone, Jazur, The Blue Fire, Pantumaca

Sylh Alanor wrote:You can follow the conversation from the original comment here. You can also find the proposed RRS changes eliminating the Councillor of Cartography position on the forum.

ahhh ok, thankuu ^^

Typica

Melenavenia wrote:Completely sure.

I'm clearly a rabbit... 🙄

Well if it were clear I wouldn’t have suspected otherwise. Perhaps if you were smaller and had longer ears and hind feet it would be more obvious?

Chacapoya, Melenavenia, The Blue Fire

The Pacific Northwest wrote:Well if it were clear I wouldn’t have suspected otherwise. Perhaps if you were smaller and had longer ears and hind feet it would be more obvious?

I can't change those things... it is what it is.

Typica, The Blue Fire

Does anyone have a way to see previous iterations of the maps? I'm adding a bunch of since-removed nations to my drawn map and I have no way to see where their borders were as it is.

Ban Oldern wrote:Notttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt enough Ttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt's. Itttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt should be called Tttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttthe Ttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttreatttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttty

darn that was hard to say

my tounge is numb now :(

i turned into a machine gun trying to say this

you won

The Blue Fire, Boxiia

....guys why am i in the top five for ideological radicality..?

Penocamptt

Melenavenia wrote:I may be large but I'm not invincible so I think I should be involved. After all, I'm pretty sure I would be a valuable asset in the case of a polar bear attack. I'm about 4 feet (1.2 meters) at the shoulders. And like I said to TPN, it's more of a weird casual stranger thing. Also, I think most predators would still prefer real meat even if it'd be better to go with impossible meat, I mean take a look at humans. I can't control their actions any more than they can control mine.

Got it, slightly shorter than a polar bear, so you should be somewhere at the back after us average sized rabbits set up our traps as a last line of defense, and no counting on the predators or impossible meat. Actually, if they won't intentionally eat impossible meat, maybe we could incorporate it into our traps. Along with that, do you think that predators have preferences when it comes to the taste of the meat, some kind of trait that we could amplify to make them prefer impossible meat?

Melenavenia wrote:A few have tried to mess with me. They have learned their lesson. What machine are you talking about?

Y'know that hair counting machine for the fluffiness thing? That machine.

Melenavenia, The Blue Fire

Ban Oldern wrote:Does anyone have a way to see previous iterations of the maps? I'm adding a bunch of since-removed nations to my drawn map and I have no way to see where their borders were as it is.

Under the previous operation structure, I stored all current and past versions of the map on our server:

https://calref.ca/post/ns/map/

Typica, Junitaki-Cho, The Blue Fire

Refuge Isle wrote:Under the previous operation structure, I stored all current and past versions of the map on our server:

https://calref.ca/post/ns/map/

Awesome! tysm

(if this sounds insincere at all pls dont be mad this took me way too long to write)

Typica, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Referendum Notice:

A referendum regarding modification of the Refugia Revised Statutes has been submitted, entitled Thesis 1: Peace In Our Time, authored by Refuge Isle and seconded by Tiralta. Having met all requirements, a vote is triggered at this time and all Member States are entitled to vote on its integration into Refugia's system of law.

You can view the text of the measure here.

Vote today: https://vote.calref.ca/vote/59

Voting ends in one week, on Wednesday November 29[sup]th[/sup] at 10:30 Pacific Time.

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Estebere wrote:Got it, slightly shorter than a polar bear, so you should be somewhere at the back after us average sized rabbits set up our traps as a last line of defense, and no counting on the predators or impossible meat. Actually, if they won't intentionally eat impossible meat, maybe we could incorporate it into our traps. Along with that, do you think that predators have preferences when it comes to the taste of the meat, some kind of trait that we could amplify to make them prefer impossible meat?

I mean if a predator is hungry enough, of course they'd eat impossible meat. And meat preference usually changes from species to species.

Estebere wrote:Y'know that hair counting machine for the fluffiness thing? That machine.

Oh, why can't we just use a ruler or something?

Typica, Jazur, The Blue Fire, Ban Oldern

Melenavenia wrote:I mean if a predator is hungry enough, of course they'd eat impossible meat. And meat preference usually changes from species to species.

And you know this how, exactly?

Melenavenia

Ban Oldern wrote:And you know this how, exactly?

Experience y'know. Surviving. Get to know your enemy.

Typica, The Blue Fire

Melenavenia wrote:Experience y'know. Surviving. Get to know your enemy.

So about that whole "getting to know you enemy" thing...

Polar bears are [I]rough[/I] with each other as cubs and usually stick it out alone as adults, save for raising cubs. So the fact that you say you are friendly with several tells me you're either lying to our faces or you have infiltrated a family. If you have, well done, because it should be impossible. Plus, even if you did, somehow, you would surely end up being at least injured by a polar bear cub during a playfight.

Seems like something you would need to know if you were ever even [I]trying[/I] to pretend to be a polar bear, right? So my best guess is that you are neither a rabbit nor a bear but instead a human wearing a polar bear suit with slightly elongated ears.

Estebere wrote:Do you think that predators have preferences when it comes to the taste of the meat, some kind of trait that we could amplify to make them prefer impossible meat?

If I had to guess, probably the smell. Get some bacon grease or something and drizzle it over the top of the meat to give it a meaty smell.

Melenavenia, The Blue Fire

Ban Oldern wrote:So my best guess is that you are neither a rabbit nor a bear but instead a human wearing a polar bear suit with slightly elongated ears.

Gasp

Humans occasionally eat rabbits too! The horror!

But why would a human pretending to be a rabbit to infiltrate society for easy prey wear a polar bear costume instead of a rabbit costume?

Melenavenia, Tiralta, The Blue Fire

"How much rain is rain outside in the rain?" [sup]-Me, but I don't know.[/sup]

Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

The Pacific Northwest wrote:Gasp

Humans occasionally eat rabbits too! The horror!

But why would a human pretending to be a rabbit to infiltrate society for easy prey wear a polar bear costume instead of a rabbit costume?

My guess is probably he's embezzled it from a high school somewhere and most schools tend not to have passive mascots (except the University of Maryland with their turtles.)

Fursuits are expensive so why spend a ton of money on a fursuit when you can get a relatively cheaper mascot costume and just stretch some stuff.

Melenavenia, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Ban Oldern wrote:My guess is probably he's embezzled it from a high school somewhere and most schools tend not to have passive mascots (except the University of Maryland with their turtles.)

Fursuits are expensive so why spend a ton of money on a fursuit when you can get a relatively cheaper mascot costume and just stretch some stuff.

You've partially figured me out. I am just a furry who's initial joke was misinterpreted.

Typica, Araine, Jazur, The Blue Fire, Ban Oldern

Melenavenia wrote:You've partially figured me out. I am just a furry who's initial joke was misinterpreted.

So... do you [I]want[/I] to be a rabbit or not?

[/I]

hey wait a minute

Estebere, are you actually a rabbit?

Typica, Melenavenia, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Ban Oldern wrote:So... do you [I]want[/I] to be a rabbit or not?

[/I]

hey wait a minute

Estebere, are you actually a rabbit?

Yes, of course I am

Just a wererabbit though, blame the stoat

Melenavenia wrote:Oh, why can't we just use a ruler or something?

I'm not sure there is anyone out there who'd be willing to measure that much fur on a rabbit

Typica, Melenavenia, Jazur, Morrigan, The Blue Fire

Ban Oldern wrote:In real life?

No.

But my fursona is so cute uwu owo

Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur

fun fact: polar bear skin is black

Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, Morrigan, Aseanindia

Tuluni wrote:fun fact: polar bear skin is black

Though 'They' look white because of reflection of light

Tiralta, Tuluni, Morrigan

Tuluni wrote:fun fact: polar bear skin is black

Aseanindia wrote:Though 'They' look white because of reflection of light

Yeah their fur is actually transparent! (i think)

Tiralta, Jazur, Tuluni, The Blue Fire, Aseanindia

For those who like Shorts Wars, they're starting Season 2.

The ending is in our hands.

For those with national animals, why did you choose your national animal?

For me, it was a desire to replicate European heraldic charges with an animal that has different members of its species typically represented in heraldry. Since I wanted Melenavenia to be a very cold nation it was only natural that I chose the polar bear. There are plenty of examples of bears on heraldic charges, but those are typically brown bears if they aren't just ambigious or fantastical bear species.

Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Melenavenia wrote:For those with national animals, why did you choose your national animal?

My national animal was the red fox for a couple of years but one day I decided that it would be nice to change things up, so I made it my favorite bird species (the northern flicker).

Chacapoya, Typica, Melenavenia, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire, Boxiia

Melenavenia wrote:For those with national animals, why did you choose your national animal?

I chose the komodo dragon simply because it's my favorite animal.

Typica, Melenavenia, Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, The Blue Fire

Melenavenia wrote:For those with national animals, why did you choose your national animal?

For me, it was a desire to replicate European heraldic charges with an animal that has different members of its species typically represented in heraldry. Since I wanted Melenavenia to be a very cold nation it was only natural that I chose the polar bear. There are plenty of examples of bears on heraldic charges, but those are typically brown bears if they aren't just ambigious or fantastical bear species.

Hallas are beautiful, majestic creatures that the Elvhen have cared for for millennia. It was a natural choice :itisso:

Chacapoya, Typica, Melenavenia, Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Melenavenia wrote:For those with national animals, why did you choose your national animal?

For me, it was a desire to replicate European heraldic charges with an animal that has different members of its species typically represented in heraldry. Since I wanted Melenavenia to be a very cold nation it was only natural that I chose the polar bear. There are plenty of examples of bears on heraldic charges, but those are typically brown bears if they aren't just ambigious or fantastical bear species.

I originally had Phoenix Park Bears, based off a joke on Irish twitter. Then I realised my bears were flying through my lush skies cause NS caught on to "Phoenix" first, and I decided flying cats would be cool. The "greater" is just cause I thought it sounded better.

Chacapoya, Typica, Melenavenia, Araine, Portmanteau, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Melenavenia wrote:For those with national animals, why did you choose your national animal?

For me, it was a desire to replicate European heraldic charges with an animal that has different members of its species typically represented in heraldry. Since I wanted Melenavenia to be a very cold nation it was only natural that I chose the polar bear. There are plenty of examples of bears on heraldic charges, but those are typically brown bears if they aren't just ambigious or fantastical bear species.

When you have beings of destruction that already despise the entire country because it can trace its lineage directly back to the people who burned them in their original, human forms at the stake and can burn down entire countries with a flick of their tails, you kinda need to appease them.

Chacapoya, Typica, Melenavenia, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Izordinia, The Blue Fire

Melenavenia wrote:For those with national animals, why did you choose your national animal?

For me, it was a desire to replicate European heraldic charges with an animal that has different members of its species typically represented in heraldry. Since I wanted Melenavenia to be a very cold nation it was only natural that I chose the polar bear. There are plenty of examples of bears on heraldic charges, but those are typically brown bears if they aren't just ambigious or fantastical bear species.

fire (obviously)

and fishing is an important part of culture

Typica, Melenavenia, Portmanteau, Tiralta

Can I Transfer my Member-State Status to my Main Account: [Nation]Istastioner[/Nation] ?

Jazur

New Milford City Embassy Complex A-5 wrote:Can I Transfer my Member-State Status to my Main Account: [Nation]Istastioner[/Nation] ?

If you resign on this account and join WA on Istastioner, you'll become a Member State on Istastioner in seven days

Typica, The Blue Fire, Pantumaca

Melenavenia wrote:For those with national animals, why did you choose your national animal?

For me, it was a desire to replicate European heraldic charges with an animal that has different members of its species typically represented in heraldry. Since I wanted Melenavenia to be a very cold nation it was only natural that I chose the polar bear. There are plenty of examples of bears on heraldic charges, but those are typically brown bears if they aren't just ambigious or fantastical bear species.

IGUANAS ARE REALLY COOL AND ALSO DUMB so yeah i liek them

Typica, Melenavenia, Portmanteau, Tiralta, The Blue Fire

oh well it’s been long since I typed here..

noticed we passed 1000 pages :)

Typica, Araine, Tiralta, The Blue Fire, Ban Oldern, Pompier-Pyromane, Sinzalia

Melenavenia wrote:For those with national animals, why did you choose your national animal?

For me, it was a desire to replicate European heraldic charges with an animal that has different members of its species typically represented in heraldry. Since I wanted Melenavenia to be a very cold nation it was only natural that I chose the polar bear. There are plenty of examples of bears on heraldic charges, but those are typically brown bears if they aren't just ambigious or fantastical bear species.

I chose the Phantom Jellyfish, I wanted my nation to hold it's Waters in reverence so I thought it only natural to make it's animal a sea creature. The Phantom jellyfish was a unique and beautiful choice in my opinion.

Typica, Melenavenia, Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, The Blue Fire, Sinzalia

Melenavenia wrote:For those with national animals, why did you choose your national animal?

For me, it was a desire to replicate European heraldic charges with an animal that has different members of its species typically represented in heraldry. Since I wanted Melenavenia to be a very cold nation it was only natural that I chose the polar bear. There are plenty of examples of bears on heraldic charges, but those are typically brown bears if they aren't just ambigious or fantastical bear species.

(OOC) I wanted to use flits! Critters I came up with and loved the idea of working into my lore and also my economy!

(IC) They were here first!

Typica, Melenavenia, Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, The Blue Fire

Penocamptt wrote:There should be a treaty for nations with multiple T's in their name!

I call it The Treaty of T's or something like that.

Yea

THEDAY

🤩🎸💖🎻🧞🪈🍁🦚🎷🎷🎷🎷🎷🛸🪩🪇📟🎺🩻🧿🪘🗯️🥁🎼🎹🏳️‍🌈🇰🇿

Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Araine, Survivors Win, Portmanteau, Izordinia, Jazur, Morrigan, The Blue Fire, Ansgar, Hasunosora

Regional Anthem suggestion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulkOmhLP7xo

Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Tiralta, Izordinia, Jazur, Ban Oldern, Pompier-Pyromane

#THEDAY

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Araine, Survivors Win, Tiralta, Izordinia, Tuluni, The Blue Fire

May THEDAY be a grand day to all of you!

Also happy Thanksgivings if you celebrate that.

Chacapoya, Typica, Melenavenia, Araine, Survivors Win, Tiralta, Istastioner, Izordinia, Tuluni, The Blue Fire

Happy Thanksgiving

Typica, Melenavenia, Survivors Win, Tiralta, Izordinia, Tuluni

Refuge Isle wrote:Regional Anthem suggestion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulkOmhLP7xo

Sounds good to me.

If this is going to be in a new thesis, may I suggest "The Song of our Birds" (or "The Symbols of our Lands" if multiple new Refugi symbols go in the same thesis)

Melenavenia, Izordinia

Melenavenia wrote:For those with national animals, why did you choose your national animal?

For me, it was a desire to replicate European heraldic charges with an animal that has different members of its species typically represented in heraldry. Since I wanted Melenavenia to be a very cold nation it was only natural that I chose the polar bear. There are plenty of examples of bears on heraldic charges, but those are typically brown bears if they aren't just ambigious or fantastical bear species.

I pictured a beefy jock with a fade haircut and grey pants gamboling in a plump meadow and the whole scene just felt lovely~

Melenavenia, Tiralta, The Blue Fire

Fun fact: statistically, according to Survivors Win, on average, 2.3% of people win; that's about 2 people out of 87 people win.

On the other side of things, 30 out of every 87 are disqualified, 35.5 out of every 87 lose due to outside forces, and 19.5 are kicked out by another player

Survivors Win, Tiralta, Izordinia, The Blue Fire

Happy thanksgiving

Typica, Survivors Win, Tiralta, The Blue Fire

Melenavenia wrote:For those with national animals, why did you choose your national animal?

For me, it was a desire to replicate European heraldic charges with an animal that has different members of its species typically represented in heraldry. Since I wanted Melenavenia to be a very cold nation it was only natural that I chose the polar bear. There are plenty of examples of bears on heraldic charges, but those are typically brown bears if they aren't just ambigious or fantastical bear species.

Ah, another reason for you to be dressed as a polar bear instead of a rabbit. You could’ve pilfered a costume from some patriotic display in your nation.

To answer the question, the region used to have a lot of beavers before the fur traders got here and one is featured on Oregon’s (one of the states I combined) flag, and is its state animal.

I also considered a more fantastical route instead, with Bigfoot as my national animal, but decided to go with the more realistic version.

The beavers only became sapient and violent after the nation was inexplicably teleported to Refugia. The appearance of vampires and werewolves and other supernatural beings also happened around this time. I’m beginning to think Refugia is just such a magical place that it caused my nation to spontaneously develop supernatural stuff. Hollywood deciding it was already present was just foreshadowing.

Typica, Melenavenia, Araine, Tiralta, The Blue Fire, Aseanindia

omg we're gay

Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Sempera, The Blue Fire, Dutchformosa, Pantumaca, Sinzalia

if leading a nation wasn't hard enough then joining a school competition is. it's tomorrow i actually am so scared

Typica

Melenavenia wrote:omg we're gay

THEGAY

Typica, Melenavenia, Araine

Tiralta wrote:THEGAY

celebrate THEDAY THEGAY[/I]

Typica, Melenavenia, Araine

Melenavenia wrote:For those with national animals, why did you choose your national animal?

For me, it was a desire to replicate European heraldic charges with an animal that has different members of its species typically represented in heraldry. Since I wanted Melenavenia to be a very cold nation it was only natural that I chose the polar bear. There are plenty of examples of bears on heraldic charges, but those are typically brown bears if they aren't just ambigious or fantastical bear species.

Melenavenia wrote:For those with national animals, why did you choose your national animal?

For me, it was a desire to replicate European heraldic charges with an animal that has different members of its species typically represented in heraldry. Since I wanted Melenavenia to be a very cold nation it was only natural that I chose the polar bear. There are plenty of examples of bears on heraldic charges, but those are typically brown bears if they aren't just ambigious or fantastical bear species.

Well mine is tiger cuz its the national animal of India and my nation is India inspired and also I like tigers a bit

Melenavenia, Araine, Tiralta

Melenavenia wrote:omg we're gay

Are you a furry, by any chance

Typica, Melenavenia, Tiralta, Weirtopia

Melenavenia wrote:omg we're gay

Tiralta wrote:THEGAY

Ban Oldern wrote:celebrate THEDAY THEGAY[/I]

we be gay!!!!!!

Typica, Melenavenia, Araine, Tiralta

Shall we don our gay apparel ?

Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Araine, Tiralta, Tuluni, Pompier-Pyromane

Typica wrote:Shall we don our gay apparel ?

Rainbows line not only what I own, but what I do, who I am, and we will take over!!!!!

Typica, Melenavenia, Tiralta, Sinzalia

Typica wrote:Shall we don our gay apparel ?

Indeed, we shall! And for the halls, shall we deck them with rainbows as well?

Typica, Melenavenia, Tiralta

Refuge Isle wrote:Regional Anthem suggestion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulkOmhLP7xo

maybe unrelated but it was such a nice game :^)

I love the new flag! Whoever made that has talent

Typica, Tiralta, The Blue Fire, Pompier-Pyromane

hi i'm new what's the trans agenda here ?

The Blue Fire

Tay-Mania wrote:Are you a furry, by any chance

-w-

Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Weirtopia, The Blue Fire

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You've already received an automated telegram from me, but let me in my human person form welcome you to our region~

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Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, The Blue Fire, Pompier-Pyromane, Sinzalia, Icelets, The Constitutional Monarchy Of Indoletho

Pompier-Pyromane wrote:hi i'm new what's the trans agenda here ?

You know those nights where you fall asleep and you're happily unconscious for a full 7-9 hours and then when you wake up you feel well rested? That's what I'm aiming for.

Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, St Leone, Morrigan, Sempera, The Blue Fire, Pantumaca, Pompier-Pyromane, Sinzalia

When will there be an another Entorting event?

Chacapoya, Tiralta

Sterludi ejected for an RRS 2(d) violation.

Melenavenia, Araine, Tiralta, Morrigan, The Blue Fire

Istastioner wrote:When will there be an another Entorting event?

We’re having talks about it!

Tiralta, Istastioner

Tay-Mania wrote:Are you a furry, by any chance

Furry? What's a that?

Tiralta

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