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Silliy wrote:just got to name my capitol city, feeling good :D

That's a fine name for a capitol. I hope to visit "feeling good" some day. Sadly I'm not inclined to live there.

How are people doing in the Challenge a nation thing? I just discovered it. You really get a sense of the relative strengths and weaknesses of your state.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=challenge

Araine, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Jazur, Uwuguaya, Boxiia, Silliy, Pterosaur Supremacy

Bohemia-Utopia wrote:That's a fine name for a capitol. I hope to visit "feeling good" some day. Sadly I'm not inclined to live there.

How are people doing in the Challenge a nation thing? I just discovered it. You really get a sense of the relative strengths and weaknesses of your state.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=challenge

thanks man :D

Tiralta, Falafelandia, Jazur, Bohemia-Utopia, Pterosaur Supremacy

Bohemia-Utopia wrote:

How are people doing in the Challenge a nation thing? I just discovered it. You really get a sense of the relative strengths and weaknesses of your state.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=challenge

I don't like the leveling feature because you can't actually compare nation strength unless you happen to be similar levels

Chacapoya, Typica, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Tiralta, Jazur, Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

Slaggstone Bruntt wrote:If your flag doesn't have at least ten different colored stripes this month, your flag doesn't have enough stripes.

I have added more stripes, but I'm unsure if it's at least ten.

Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, Uwuguaya, The Ledona, Pterosaur Supremacy

Boxiia wrote:I have added more stripes, but I'm unsure if it's at least ten.

I count it as like 14 so you're good :p

Chacapoya, Araine, Jazur, Uwuguaya, Boxiia, Pterosaur Supremacy

Tiralta wrote:I count it as like 14 so you're good :p

Nice

Pterosaur Supremacy

Happy Pride Month everyone! I had way too many ideas for flags that represent me, but I ended up with this design as it's a lot simpler.

Typica, Araine, Szalyland, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Jazur, Uwuguaya, The Ledona, Pterosaur Supremacy

Hello everyone, I will be role-playing a 1984like Dictatorship, don't mind me if I look like a terrible state :3

Delta Vega Iv, Araine, Falafelandia, Jazur, Uwuguaya, Irimara, Pterosaur Supremacy

Lanassia wrote:Happy Pride Month everyone! I had way too many ideas for flags that represent me, but I ended up with this design as it's a lot simpler.

Cool one! Like the tree (which flag is that? Im not too familiar with the flag)

Foreigna wrote:Hello everyone, I will be role-playing a 1984like Dictatorship, don't mind me if I look like a terrible state :3

As they say, ignorance is bliss... What terrible state?, what dictarorship? Oh hi nice flag =))

Araine, Falafelandia, Jazur, Uwuguaya, Lanassia, Pterosaur Supremacy, Foreigna

Foreigna wrote:Hello everyone, I will be role-playing a 1984like Dictatorship, don't mind me if I look like a terrible state :3

Don't worry, you're among friends in that aspect

Delta Vega Iv, Szalyland, Falafelandia, Jazur, Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy, Foreigna

Szalyland wrote:Cool one! Like the tree (which flag is that? Im not too familiar with the flag)

As they say, ignorance is bliss... What terrible state?, what dictarorship? Oh hi nice flag =))

Big Sister appreciate your enthusiast for our national flag. You have been excluded from our list of top priority menace for the State =D

Szalyland, Falafelandia, Jazur, Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

Szalyland wrote:Cool one! Like the tree (which flag is that? Im not too familiar with the flag)

The pansexual flag. It's definitely not the most commonly seen flag. Given that pansexuality belongs under the umbrella term of bisexuality, I could have used the bisexual flag, but it's easier to work with the colors of the pan flag.

Delta Vega Iv, Araine, Szalyland, Falafelandia, Jazur, Uwuguaya, Ethierys, The Ledona, Pterosaur Supremacy, Foreigna

Apparently, some obsolete texts marked for deletion have been released outside of our Juridiction in a so called "factbook of Foreigna". Big Sister ask all member of Refugia to return these texts to the nearest Office of the Foreignan Ministy of Hate and to ignore any content present on these documents.

Big Sister,

Sovereign State of Foreigna

Jazur, Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

*also if you want to do rp with Foreigna and Big Sister telegram me ;D *

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Tidelia wrote:

Hear ye, hear ye! It's day 3 of marine animal shoutouts, and today's goes to the Snailfish! Snailfish are a very broad family of fishes, with incredible diversity in looks, location, and depth. This year, a snailfish broke the record for the deepest fish ever recorded, at a depth of 8,336 meters in the Izu-Ogasawara Trench! Thanks fellas

And a happy pride month to everyone! <3

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I have dishonored Refugia by MISSING YESTERDAY'S MARINE ANIMAL SHOUTOUT! I am ashamed, embarrassed, and even SAD. Maybe I can make it up to you guys with MARINE ANIMAL SHOUTOUT DAY 4!

Today's shoutout goes to the pistol shrimp! The pistol shrimp is an absolute marvel of evolutionary traits, known for its one very large claw that functions as a tool for hunting. This claw is where the colloquial name of "pistol shrimp" comes from- the claw uses a locking mechanism that, when triggered, slams down a hammer shaped knob into a cavity within the claw which expels a bubble that then very rapidly collapses in on itself. This bubble is not only strong enough to stun and KILL small fish, but for a brief moment also reaches a temperature comparable to that of the Sun. (Bubble reaches ~4,700 °C, Sun is estimated to be ~5,500 °C.) The sound of these bubbles is also a well known interferer with underwater communication. Thanks fellas

The Star Enpire, Chacapoya, Poquaoi, Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Uwuguaya, Ethierys, The Ledona, Bohemia-Utopia, Pterosaur Supremacy

Tidelia wrote:snip

You could never dishonor Refugia! Thank you for telling us about the extremely warm bubble shooting pistol shrimp!!!

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

I was reading York and I'm suddenly wondering if the Morningstarr Twins had any idea about the fact that the Morningstar is a title for the one and only Lucifer. Honestly? It seems to fit them perfectly. Secretly comedic even, in how evil the cipher is. I love it.

Chacapoya, Jazur, Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

I really hope 4 stripes will be enough in this case 👀

I'm inclined to just leave the flag like this for the foreseeable future. I like it way more than the original one.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, Uwuguaya, The Ledona, Pterosaur Supremacy

[spoiler= not to be seen or clicked]Just changed my 3 stripes behind, thought it was good.

I'm not a good flag designer, so check what I could.[/spoiler]

Delta Vega Iv, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

Foreigna wrote:Big Sister appreciate your enthusiast for our national flag. You have been excluded from our list of top priority menace for the State =D

Aeyaey, everyone has their own unique flag(what do u think of mine flag btw?)

Yours is menacing, like your list lol

Lanassia wrote:The pansexual flag. It's definitely not the most commonly seen flag. Given that pansexuality belongs under the umbrella term of bisexuality, I could have used the bisexual flag, but it's easier to work with the colors of the pan flag.

Aa, alr the pan one, got it

Strong colours combination though

Delta Vega Iv, Araine, Tiralta, Chong Qing, Uwuguaya, The Ledona, Pterosaur Supremacy

Bohemia-Utopia just legislated to allow asylum in all cases of persecution based on sexuality. I am amazed that wasn't on the books already.

Delta Vega Iv, Araine, Uwuguaya, The Ledona, Foreigna

Bohemia-Utopia wrote:Bohemia-Utopia just legislated to allow asylum in all cases of persecution based on sexuality. I am amazed that wasn't on the books already.

Hopefully, we haven't discrimination based on sexuality or other things here in Foreigna. All are equal below our beloved Big Sister. Nevertheless,if Foreignan are found in your frontier, we hope the Bohemia-Utopia will escort them back to our Country or the Sovereign State of Foreigna will have to free them with shock and awe.

Ministry of Hate,

Foreigrad

Glory to Big Sister

Szalyland wrote:Aeyaey, everyone has their own unique flag(what do u think of mine flag btw?)

Yours is menacing, like your list lol

(of character btw) I really like yours, it reminds me of austrian-hungary style. Was it your inspiration? OwO

Uwuguaya

Apologies for the lack of alacrity regarding the upcoming WA votes, I have been busy and then sleeping.

I'd like to get some thoughts for the upcoming General Assembly proposal Securities Issuers Governance and Disclosures, by Simone Republic.

My thoughts are that there are some resolutions that specifically spell out exactly what the WA requires and what it will do, directly creating rules for member nations. Sometimes this is inappropriate because the needs and citizenry of World Assembly nations are vast, from cave-dwelling sapient ostriches, to a multi-world Imperium where there is only war. Better resolutions instruct World Assembly nations to create rules that are appropriate and tailored to their nation, within the framework that accomplishes the rules the General Assembly wishes to impose. This one goes a little bit beyond that, because while it aims for the latter, it come with any guidance at all.

The meat of the proposal is in these sections:

0 wrote:Hereby requires all WA states that permit the operation of an exchange to designate a competent regulator ("regulator") to regulate the following:

1. Minimum levels of participation in the management of the issuer including:

...

2. Minimum levels of disclosure on the governance of the issuer including:

...

Hereby clarifies that:

...

b. the regulator is responsible for the implementation and interpretation of this resolution.

This text requires that the member nation to appoint a regulator (which appears to be anyone, including someone with a vested interest), which then must "regulate" the two areas of focus. In this regulation, they are responsible for interpreting the resolution, which can be read presumably as easy-going as I am doing, and that interpretation says they can establish no regulation at all, or codify whatever has already been taking place.

The goal of making rules in the World Assembly is to bring those rules to the nations that would not do so on their own. If they were already interested in making rules in favour of consumer protection, they'd be doing it. Since this text requires them to regulate, but not to any notable effect, why would they? So, without any other thought or care about whether the goal of the resolution is good, I'm sort of forced to say it doesn't matter because it does, literally, nothing at all.

The Star Enpire, Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Tiralta, Jazur, The Hefel, Thingessness, The Ledona, Pterosaur Supremacy

Refuge Isle wrote:Apologies for the lack of alacrity regarding the upcoming WA votes, I have been busy and then sleeping.

I'd like to get some thoughts for the upcoming General Assembly proposal Securities Issuers Governance and Disclosures, by Simone Republic.

My thoughts are that there are some resolutions that specifically spell out exactly what the WA requires and what it will do, directly creating rules for member nations. Sometimes this is inappropriate because the needs and citizenry of World Assembly nations are vast, from cave-dwelling sapient ostriches, to a multi-world Imperium where there is only war. Better resolutions instruct World Assembly nations to create rules that are appropriate and tailored to their nation, within the framework that accomplishes the rules the General Assembly wishes to impose. This one goes a little bit beyond that, because while it aims for the latter, it come with any guidance at all.

The meat of the proposal is in these sections:

This text requires that the member nation to appoint a regulator (which appears to be anyone, including someone with a vested interest), which then must "regulate" the two areas of focus. In this regulation, they are responsible for interpreting the resolution, which can be read presumably as easy-going as I am doing, and that interpretation says they can establish no regulation at all, or codify whatever has already been taking place.

The goal of making rules in the World Assembly is to bring those rules to the nations that would not do so on their own. If they were already interested in making rules in favour of consumer protection, they'd be doing it. Since this text requires them to regulate, but not to any notable effect, why would they? So, without any other thought or care about whether the goal of the resolution is good, I'm sort of forced to say it doesn't matter because it does, literally, nothing at all.

The Hefel believes it to be a foolish proposal.

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Refuge Isle

good news everybody I'm still alive

Typica, Refuge Isle, Araine, Tovenia, Szalyland, Jazur, Estebere, Uwuguaya, Thingessness, Pterosaur Supremacy, Doge Flower

Okidoke, slow Sunday little notice, but I'll go ahead and park a vOtInG rEcoMmEnDaTiOn here to formalise the above, and if anyone has any additional thoughts or interpretation, I can revise later.

But as of now, I am recommending voting Against the GA resolution at-vote: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1891061

It's unlikely that I'll have a recommendation up for the SC by the time it goes to vote, but I will likely be recommending voting for, as Gio is commendable and by commendable i mean condemnable and it's not another MilGP defender commend.

The Star Enpire, Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Jazur, Slaggstone Bruntt, Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

Foreigna wrote:(of character btw) I really like yours, it reminds me of austrian-hungary style. Was it your inspiration? OwO

Yos it is, They have one of the great flags of all, pretty epic

Also flag colour schemes and symbols were taken from 2 pacific island colonies

Its embarrassing to me but I regret nothing about it 😂

Glengallia wrote:good news everybody I'm still alive

We're epic-ly alive fr(i have no idea what that supposed to mean)

Falafelandia, Jazur, Uwuguaya, Thingessness, Pterosaur Supremacy

That Securities Issuers word soup is one ugly bill. I can't look at it long enough to read it.

Falafelandia, New Cinder, Pterosaur Supremacy

Glengallia wrote:good news everybody I'm still alive

I can confirm that. Endorsing is possible.

Typica, Falafelandia, Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

Question for you all: What is your favorite marine animal?

Mine is the Otter.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Jazur, Tidelia, Uwuguaya, Voinarx, Pterosaur Supremacy

Estebere wrote:Question for you all: What is your favorite marine animal?

Mine is the Otter.

Oooh mine has to either be Saltwater Crocodiles or Groupers.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Araine, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Jazur

Estebere wrote:Question for you all: What is your favorite marine animal?

Mine is the Otter.

Oooh great choice!!

I’m a big fan of Greenland Sharks or Coelacanths!

Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Jazur, Pterosaur Supremacy

Hello, better late than never: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1891434

The Star Enpire, Chacapoya, Poquaoi, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Jazur, Ethierys, Bohemia-Utopia, Pterosaur Supremacy

Can we have a world assembly change from the word agriculture to the word horticulture? Because all the issues seem to be more about livestock than crops.

Delta Vega Iv, Talvezout, Typica, Jazur, Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

SURPRISE!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1891472

The Star Enpire, Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Poquaoi, Typica, Narwhal, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tovenia, Minskievian Refugees, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Jazur, The Merinos, New Atlantic, Tidelia, Weirtopia, Uwuguaya, Almander, Thingessness, The Ledona, Noweyr, Bohemia-Utopia, Pterosaur Supremacy

Sylh Alanor wrote:snip

Well, I do suppose that’s true. In any case, I should wish Typica a good delegateship, and then go to sleep.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, Uwuguaya, Thingessness, Pterosaur Supremacy

Estebere wrote:Question for you all: What is your favorite marine animal?

Mine is the Otter.

Orcas. Octopi are also very cool.

Delta Vega Iv, Falafelandia, Jazur, Noweyr, Pterosaur Supremacy

Estebere wrote:Question for you all: What is your favorite marine animal?

Mine is the Otter.

Axolotl. They're adorable

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Araine, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Jazur, Voinarx, Noweyr, Pterosaur Supremacy

Estebere wrote:Question for you all: What is your favorite marine animal?

Mine is the Otter.

Irimara wrote:Axolotl. They're adorable

I AGREE-

Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, Pterosaur Supremacy

Are we counting seals as marine animals or are they too land-dwelling for that?

Delta Vega Iv, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, Pterosaur Supremacy

Jempuz wrote:Are we counting seals as marine animals or are they too land-dwelling for that?

I think they’re classified as semiaquatic marine mammals!

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Tiralta, Jazur, Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

Sylh Alanor wrote:SURPRISE!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1891472

Congrats on your "retirement" Em, you've done a great job!

And congrats Typica you're gonna be a wonderful delegate!

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Letargia, Jazur, Uwuguaya, Thingessness, The Ledona, Pterosaur Supremacy

so like, IC is the WA a thing here in refugia (if that's the proper name for the world)

Pterosaur Supremacy

Sylh Alanor wrote:SURPRISE!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1891472

Woah, this is like an end of an era. Enjoy your retirement!

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Tovenia, Letargia, Tiralta, Jazur, Uwuguaya, Thingessness, The Ledona, Pterosaur Supremacy

Talvezout wrote:so like, IC is the WA a thing here in refugia (if that's the proper name for the world)

Hmm I think, in lore, the WA is something we would recognise exists and that certain territories in Refugia are a member of.

The Star Enpire, Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Talvezout, Typica, Tiralta, Jazur, Pterosaur Supremacy

Refuge Isle wrote:Hmm I think, in lore, the WA is something we would recognise exists and that certain territories in Refugia are a member of.

Alright cool

Yeah I'm currently lore-updated so I wanted to have a good handle on what is IC and what isn't lol

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Tiralta, Jazur, Pterosaur Supremacy

Talvezout wrote:so like, IC is the WA a thing here in refugia (if that's the proper name for the world)

The world assembly is gesture politics, but as a member, I get to endorse fellow members from Refugia and they I. This makes our collective stronger against reactionary entryists and outside agitators.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Talvezout, Typica, Jazur, Uwuguaya, The Ledona, Pterosaur Supremacy

Bohemia-Utopia wrote:The world assembly is gesture politics, but as a member, I get to endorse fellow members from Refugia and they I. This makes our collective stronger against reactionary entryists and outside agitators.

Same, its just fun lore politics/set dressing lol

Delta Vega Iv, Jazur, Uwuguaya, The Ledona, Pterosaur Supremacy

IC to let countries be and tolerate no matter how badly they are acting up? I don't know, that seems a little patronising. How about we ignore the policies of out neighbours in the hope that it'll work out in the end? This is a refuge, you can be as IC as you like?

The wooly question marks are key to me point...maybe?

Refuge Isle, Tiralta, Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

Bohemia-Utopia wrote:This is a refuge, you can be as IC as you like?

Extremely based

Chacapoya, Typica, Narwhal, Sylh Alanor, Tiralta, Jazur, Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

Jempuz wrote:Are we counting seals as marine animals or are they too land-dwelling for that?

Yep, they count.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Tidelia, Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

Hiii Sylh Alanor I saw you're stepping stepping down as Delegate? You should do it in style, use ctrl+w!

Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Narwhal, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Liphia, Minskievian Refugees, Tiralta, Jazur, Estebere, Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

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The Barneylands

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Refuge Isle

Sylh Alanor wrote:SURPRISE!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1891472

bye emilyfremily :c

Chacapoya, Typica, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Liphia, Minskievian Refugees, Tiralta, Nahelia, Uwuguaya, Thingessness, The Ledona, Pterosaur Supremacy

Honeydewistania wrote:bye emilyfremily :c

I'm not going anywhere Emilyfremily! I'm still here :)

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Refuge Isle, Araine, Liphia, Minskievian Refugees, Tiralta, The Merinos, Nahelia, Uwuguaya, The Ledona, Pterosaur Supremacy

The Barneylands wrote:Thanks for letting me join.

hi there! please don't clog up our message board with spam, it makes it harder for other people to communicate with each other. but welcome!

Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Araine, Liphia, Tiralta, Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

Friends! Neighbors! Refugi everywhere!

Lend me your endorsement!

I shall vote our region's values to the World Assembly to the best of my ability!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1891896

Chacapoya, Catiania, Cheesy Tots, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Minskievian Refugees, Tiralta, Duneraven, Jazur, New Atlantic, Uwuguaya, Almander, The Ledona, Noweyr, Pterosaur Supremacy

Estebere wrote:Question for you all: What is your favorite marine animal?

Mine is the Otter.

You're asking the right guy. And you are right. Sea otters win every day

Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Estebere, Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

Just finished Story Thieves and now I, as a bookworm, am starting to feel a bit guilty.

Edit: And as someone who wants to become an author.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, Pterosaur Supremacy

Estebere wrote:Just finished Story Thieves and now I, as a bookworm, am starting to feel a bit guilty.

Edit: And as someone who wants to become an author.

What is Story Thieves?

Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

Delta Vega Iv wrote:What is Story Thieves?

Fantasy book series that plays with the idea of fiction.

Delta Vega Iv, Jazur, Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

Estebere wrote:Question for you all: What is your favorite marine animal?

Mine is the Otter.

Late but better late than never.

I like the glowey squids, idk what their name is but they are cute.

Sylh Alanor wrote:SURPRISE!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1891472

We may not have known each other for long but it seems you have done a great job in leading this region and handling the foreign affairs.

I presume you still will want to participate in the government though, right?

The Star Enpire, Chacapoya, Araine, Liphia, Falafelandia, Jazur, Thingessness, Pterosaur Supremacy

Uwuguaya wrote:I presume you still will want to participate in the government though, right?

Emily didn't run for anything this term so won't be in the regional government unless she does again in future.

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Falafelandia, Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

Refuge Isle wrote:Edit: Slightly unrelated, but whoever is the first Refugi to make a complete Season 3 Refugia Nations collection will get a free Season 3 Testlandia from me. That's a standing offer, as I will not be making that collection in the coming season.

I wrote this over two and a half years ago, but it remains valid. When I wrote it I didn't anticipate that Season 3 would take three total years to come out, nor did I imagine that the snapshot would be during a population boom, nor did I imagine that it would take so much effort to track down cards which only have one copy in existence. So, maybe it's just a minor prize at this point, but I have randomly chosen that today is the day I stop putting off its reward.

The reason for this is because Liphia and The Pacific Northwest have gone through monumental efforts in gathering up all the cards of the Refugia regional collection, including some who CTE'd immediately which reduced their spawn rate to something like one in a million, or whatever the [violet] quote was. Between the two of them, they both have all the cards except for one, and each has the one that the other is missing. Asking either of them to give up a card to complete the collection officially seems unfair to me, so I've decided to modify my original statement and give a Season 3 Testlandia to them both.

Please congratulate both of them and appreciate the collections they've made: Refugia S3 and A Casual Collection of Refugia. And don't let this dissuade anyone from working on or starting their own Refugia collections. Tiralta, Minskiev, Melenavenia, Araine, Istastioner, Tuluni and more have fine Refugia collections at various stages of completion. But I wanted to give special recognition to the two nations in particular who have moved mountains for their own regional collection.

The Star Enpire, Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Poquaoi, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Narwhal, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Portmanteau, Minskievian Refugees, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Jazur, Tidelia, Slaggstone Bruntt, Uwuguaya, Thingessness, The Ledona, Noweyr, Pterosaur Supremacy

Refuge Isle wrote:Snip!

I am also doing a Refugia collection! Still just starting out but it's on its way!

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Araine, Liphia, Tiralta, Falafelandia, The Ledona, Pterosaur Supremacy

Estebere wrote:Question for you all: What is your favorite marine animal?

My own personal hero is the Orca. Specifically, the Orca pack that is terrorising the shores of Spain/Portugal lately. May that serve as a lesson to people foolish enough to mess with this species (The Orca vendetta apparently started with some fishermen foolishly harpooning an orca or two).

The Star Enpire, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Jazur, Pterosaur Supremacy

Should I make a Ukrainian Variant of Istastioner's Flag

Tiralta, Falafelandia, Pterosaur Supremacy

Istastioner wrote:Should I make a Ukrainian Variant of Istastioner's Flag

Are you going to make it half gay and half Ukrainian?

Typica, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

Araine wrote:Are you going to make it half gay and half Ukrainian?

I meant that I was going to make separate version of my flag in support to Ukraine

Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

Refuge Isle wrote:But I wanted to give special recognition to the two nations in particular who have moved mountains for their own regional collection.

Ahhh congrats Liphia and The Pacific Northwest! That's such a great achievement!

Typica, Araine, Liphia, Portmanteau, Istastioner, Falafelandia, Jazur, Uwuguaya, The Ledona, Pterosaur Supremacy

Delta Vega Iv wrote:Specifically, the Orca pack that is terrorising the shores of Spain/Portugal lately. May that serve as a lesson to people foolish enough to mess with this species (The Orca vendetta apparently started with some fishermen foolishly harpooning an orca or two).

(To the tune of the creature report song) Go Orca, go Orca, go Orca

(Not that I support orcas sinking boats or anything)

Delta Vega Iv, Portmanteau, Pterosaur Supremacy

Refuge Isle wrote:Between the two of them, they both have all the cards except for one, and each has the one that the other is missing. Asking either of them to give up a card to complete the collection officially seems unfair to me, so I've decided to modify my original statement and give a Season 3 Testlandia to them both.

That's a nice compromise, I like that.

Great job, Liphia and PNW

Estebere wrote:(Not that I support orcas sinking boats or anything)

I, for one, support the Orca Resistance in their guerrilla war against human shipping interests...

Typica, Tiralta, Uwuguaya, The Ledona, Pterosaur Supremacy

The current GA resolution is strangely specific. I wonder why the author decided to classify it as "moral decency"? This seems to be an industry regulation to me...

Typica, Liphia, Tiralta, Jazur, Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

Refuge Isle wrote: -snip-

thank u so much for this lucaaaa!

you're a wonderful person <3

Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Jazur, Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

Tiralta wrote:Emily didn't run for anything this term so won't be in the regional government unless she does again in future.

I see.

Delta Vega Iv wrote:My own personal hero is the Orca. Specifically, the Orca pack that is terrorising the shores of Spain/Portugal lately. May that serve as a lesson to people foolish enough to mess with this species (The Orca vendetta apparently started with some fishermen foolishly harpooning an orca or two).

Btw, did you know that orcas actually are dolphins, not whales as commonly mislabelled?

Delta Vega Iv, Araine, Jazur, Bohemia-Utopia, Pterosaur Supremacy

Uwuguaya wrote:We may not have known each other for long but it seems you have done a great job in leading this region and handling the foreign affairs.

I presume you still will want to participate in the government though, right?

Thanks, that's lovely praise! It ultimately depends, whether or not I continue involvement in government. As long as people keep running for office and doing well, I see no need to. I'm around to help or answer questions, but I think it's good for the region to see new people in positions.

Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Liphia, Letargia, Tiralta, Jazur, Uwuguaya, The Ledona, Pterosaur Supremacy

I wonder if any architects have begun reviewing Mumbattan. I therefore have to wonder if the Alchemax building was a good idea.

Jazur, Pterosaur Supremacy

Uwuguaya wrote:I see.

Btw, did you know that orcas actually are dolphins, not whales as commonly mislabelled?

Orcas are dolphins, yes! Dolphins aren’t usually referred to as whales, but they’re still technically a subtype of whale (cetacean). Dolphins and porpoises are called toothed whales, and the great whales are called baleen whales.

Tiralta, Pterosaur Supremacy

Sweet, Irimara has cracked the top ten for most patriotic

Tiralta, Uwuguaya, Thingessness, Pterosaur Supremacy

Refuge Isle wrote:Liphia and The Pacific Northwest have gone through monumental efforts in gathering up all the cards of the Refugia regional collection, including some who CTE'd immediately which reduced their spawn rate to something like one in a million, or whatever the [violet] quote was. Between the two of them, they both have all the cards except for one, and each has the one that the other is missing. Asking either of them to give up a card to complete the collection officially seems unfair to me, so I've decided to modify my original statement and give a Season 3 Testlandia to them both.

Thank you so much, I legitimately wasn’t expecting to get a prize for my collection. Some of these cards were indeed very hard to come by, I’m not sure how I didn’t get that last card I needed when everyone else who was collecting did.

Speaking of which, I just noticed that Tiralta has gifted me their copy, completing my collection. Thank you so much Tiralta, that means a lot to me. When I get a copy of my own I’ll gift it back so you don’t have to buy it twice.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Liphia, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Jazur, Uwuguaya, New Cinder, Thingessness, The Ledona, Bohemia-Utopia, Pterosaur Supremacy

Just dipping my toe into card trading and the water is murky.

Cards ramp up in value well over the junk (scrap) price. Why?

Monopolistic capitalists buy up all the cards of a type. If the market was perfectly elastic this would cost as much as selling them again would return. The grift is in the margins. Buy cheap? Keep the price low by buying as separate accounts. That way no monopoly seems to be happening. Build up the price? Sell to your other selves in a circle. Sell high? Wait until there are enough buy orders ready to get out quick or create them yourself in the other accounts. Only the monopolist can crash the price. So crash it after you have sold enough to profit. Scrap the rest of the accounts to cut losses and start again.

Buyer beware. Look at how many of a card exist and who owns them. Look at the trading history.

Makes you wonder how accurate this model is compared to stock markets, bit coins, etc. Junk price is a 1x times assets valuation. The wider world calls this junk bond trading. Or churning. Tech shares often trade for 10-15 x assets and earnings. A lot of this is projected growth priced in, but there is always some froth inflating it higher than the real margin of error. Trading/management charges by funds and trading brokers mean that only big players get any kind of return from these fluctuations.

Pushing up price can be as simple as a bid at scrap/junk value. The next bid has to be higher or wait in line behind this bid.

There must be quiet "secret" cards that trade solely to transfer funds between a big trader's accounts. Out of peak hours trades of a low interest card. Usully for silly prices to get the funds moved.

If you found this article useful by all means gift me a card.

Tiralta, Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

It just sank in for me that I'm gonna have to place a bid on 429 common cards for my collection.

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Tiralta, Jazur, Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

what cards do u need?

Tiralta, Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

New Atlantic wrote:what cards do u need?

If you actually collect them or scrap them, they are all good. Something black and red with a yellow dot in season three common is the cheap range. Some cards have managed to get a scrap value of zero.

Tiralta, Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

The Pacific Northwest wrote:When I get a copy of my own I’ll gift it back so you don’t have to buy it twice.

Thank you, that's so nice! My Refugia collection is just for fun at the moment so very happy to help you complete yours. (And indeed everyone else, if I see a Refugi collecting I'm happy to gift things I find!)

Bohemia-Utopia wrote:snip

It depends what kind of cards you're into collecting. Legendaries are rarer and lots of people want them, so they tend to go up pretty fast, especially if people want to complete a collection quicker. For example, I paid well over market value (MV) for my Refuge Isle and Sylh Alanor cards because I really wanted to get my friends' cards and I had the bank. Gif cards tend to end up around twice their junk value, and certain themed cards can do the same.

Some people do buy common or uncommon cards and sell them higher. But if you're patient, often someone will come along who'll sell those to you at the price you offer, as long as it's at least junk value or 0.01 above junk value.

For more common cards, they used to blow up. People would sell commons to themselves for 10k a few times and inflate the price to hundreds or thousands for some card nobody wanted. Then staff fixed it overnight and everyone's card values dropped. You can see this in late 2022 on anyone's International Artwork stat. Even those of us who didn't inflate cards saw our value drop, in many cases cause we'd just happen to come across a card and save it cause it was worth a lot.

I have several puppet nations known as card farmers, whose only purpose is to answer issues so I can open cards. I don't do this with any regularity, but just cause I'm working on a collection that's going to be fairly big and probably quite expensive to complete in the long run.

While I'm going through the cards I find farming, if I see any bids from Refugi for a collection I'm always happy to gift them if it's not one for a collection I'm working on. So if anyone's getting into cards, put bids and talk a little on the RMB so I recognise your name as a fellow Refugi! Or if you're working on a specific and interesting collection sometimes if you telegram or DM me I'll remember to look through things I find on those lines for you too - it's gotta be more fun than just another "legendaries" collection though!

You didn't specify what you're looking for, and your collection isn't themed as far as I can see, so I've sent you a Thicc Horse card. :)

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, The Pacific Northwest, New Atlantic, Uwuguaya, Thingessness, The Ledona, Bohemia-Utopia, Pterosaur Supremacy

Any tips for how to upgrade your deck capacity?

Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

New Atlantic wrote:Any tips for how to upgrade your deck capacity?

It's been a while since I've had to, but when you get close to the limit you'll be able to buy an expansion. This expansion costs bank and although there used to be a very handy chart showing the different levels of deck limits and how much they cost, that doesn't seem to have been created yet for the newly expanded deck capacities that came about in late 2022. From the forums, it seems like the first 3 expansions cost 40 bank, the next 3 cost 60 bank, then 3 at 80 bank and everything after the 10th is capped at 100 bank.

If that's true, that seems very expensive to me, but it's worth bearing in mind then that you'll need to be willing to sell and junk cards to build up that much bank.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Jazur, Uwuguaya, The Ledona, Pterosaur Supremacy

Tiralta wrote:It's been a while since I've had to, but when you get close to the limit you'll be able to buy an expansion. This expansion costs bank and although there used to be a very handy chart showing the different levels of deck limits and how much they cost, that doesn't seem to have been created yet for the newly expanded deck capacities that came about in late 2022. From the forums, it looks like the first 3 expansions cost 40 bank, the following 3 cost 60 bank, then 3 at 80 bank and everything after the 10th is capped at 100 bank.

If that's true, that seems very expensive to me, but it's worth bearing in mind that you'll need to be willing to sell and junk cards to build up that much bank.

Is there any strategy for getting bank or do you just sell and junk cards?

Delta Vega Iv, Tiralta, Jazur, Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

New Atlantic wrote:Is there any strategy for getting bank or do you just sell and junk cards?

A primary method for card farming is to answer issues on puppet accounts, junk the cards those issues spawn, and then sell cards from your main account to transfer the bank, gifting the cards back to your main afterwards. A strategy I popularised a long time ago was to use high volumes of a single designated common-rarity transfer card at a low transfer rates (in my case 2.00 bank) so that if someone else intervenes with a copy of their own, your bank loss will be minimal and you will have an additional copy to transfer bank with in the future.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, New Atlantic, Pterosaur Supremacy

Some cards players have an extreme amount of puppets. While I was on my zero-to-hero run, I had 1500.

Typica, Tiralta, Estebere, Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

Slaggstone Bruntt wrote:I had 1500.

Pure dedication right here

Tiralta, Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

Tiralta wrote:Thank you, that's so nice! My Refugia collection is just for fun at the moment so very happy to help you complete yours. (And indeed everyone else, if I see a Refugi collecting I'm happy to gift things I find!)

Snip

You didn't specify what you're looking for, and your collection isn't themed as far as I can see, so I've sent you a Thicc Horse card. :)

You are a pathalogically beautiful human being. Nice doesn't cover it. Radiently kind.

Typica, Narwhal, Tiralta, Uwuguaya, The Ledona, Pterosaur Supremacy

Estebere wrote:And then maybe we could try for 1000

Yo, remember this telegram from page 800?

Refugia is actually incredibly close to that once theoretical goal of page 1000.

Chacapoya, Narwhal, Liphia, Estebere, Uwuguaya, Boxiia, Voinarx, The Ledona, Pterosaur Supremacy

*swims around*

*waves*

*plunges back into the ocean*

The Star Enpire, Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Liphia, Tovenia, Szalyland, Tiralta, New Atlantic, Estebere, Uwuguaya, Boxiia, Penocampt, Irimara, Thingessness, The Ledona, Pterosaur Supremacy

Can I has endorsement

Cheesy Tots, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Tiralta, Uwuguaya, Thingessness, Pterosaur Supremacy

sure

Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

Doge Flower wrote:Can I has endorsement

A great way to get endorsements is to endorse others! If you endorse everyone, you're sure to get a whole lot of them back.

Delta Vega Iv, Araine, Tiralta, Tidelia, Uwuguaya, Pterosaur Supremacy

Sylh Alanor wrote:A great way to get endorsements is to endorse others! If you endorse everyone, you're sure to get a whole lot of them back.

Someone created a hater account in my old region and the hater account got me kicked

Pterosaur Supremacy

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You've already received an automated telegram from me, but let me in my human person form welcome you to our region~

Refugia is part of a larger community, Calamity Refuge. If you want to hang out with us, check out our Discord server: https://discord.gg/Rt6uGMsNpr. In the meantime, feel free to hang out with us in Refugia, there's lots to do on NationStates. Become a Member State by joining the World Assembly and hanging around for a week. You’ll be able to get a spot on one of the fine maps of Refugia at the top of the page, as well as vote on regional matters and run for Council positions.

Once you've signed up for the World Assembly, you can endorse other nations and build your regional influence. This is easy with our custom tool, Tart.Calref: https://tart.calref.ca/

If there’s anything else you’re interested in learning about our region or NationStates, feel free to ask!

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