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Tiralta wrote:

Also 50.7% of Tiraltans go off to live in the forest and evade tax :D

tax evasion is legal now!!!

Typica, Tiralta, Jazur, Sempera, The Blue Fire, Silliy, Pantumaca

Post self-deleted by Izordinia.

Ban Oldern wrote:we should make a map treaty for nations who have quite significant amounts of their population die because of "lost in the wilderness" according to NS data (with "quite significant" being like 25% and up)

I agree!!!👍

The Blue Fire

Siheom wrote:Sup everybody!

yo!

Tay-Mania wrote:tax evasion is legal now!!!

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Tiralta wrote:That last poll was extremely divided! Here's the latest one!

https://www.nationstates.net/region=refugia#poll

Mother I crave violence.

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire, Siheom

«You were ranked in the Top 1% of the world for Most Primitive.»

Neat.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Detjavikstan, Typica, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Izordinia, The Blue Fire, Silliy

Skull Isle wrote:«You were ranked in the Top 1% of the world for Most Primitive.»

Neat.

Primitive good. Modern bad.

Typica, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Skull Isle, The Blue Fire

Skull Isle wrote:«You were ranked in the Top 1% of the world for Most Primitive.»

Neat.

go monke

Portmanteau, Tiralta, Skull Isle, The Blue Fire, Silliy

Advanced civilization is a mistake!

Typica, Portmanteau, Morrigan, The Blue Fire, Silliy

Skull Isle wrote:Advanced civilization is a mistake!

REJECT MODERNITY.

RETURN TO MONKE.

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Araine, Portmanteau, The Merinos, Skull Isle, The Blue Fire, Elamiria

Skull Isle wrote:«You were ranked in the Top 1% of the world for Most Primitive.»

Neat.

Cool

And then you have my nation with 76% that die of old age, only 19% get lost in the wilderness

Delta Vega Iv, Izordinia, Morrigan

Ban Oldern wrote:What should we call it, though?

Pax Sylvia?

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As an aside, I took a peek at my nation's leading causes of death, and noticed a stat I'd never encountered before. 0.4% of my people die of "Space Shuttle Mishap". Presumably because I have such a high Primitiveness stat, combined with the incongruous Space Program policy. Made me chuckle.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Araine, Tiralta, The Blue Fire, Silliy, Pantumaca, Agudo Island

Portmanteau wrote:Pax Sylvia?

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As an aside, I took a peek at my nation's leading causes of death, and noticed a stat I'd never encountered before. 0.4% of my people die of "Space Shuttle Mishap". Presumably because I have such a high Primitiveness stat, combined with the incongruous Space Program policy. Made me chuckle.

it also made me chuckle, thats really silly

Delta Vega Iv, Portmanteau, Tiralta

Portmanteau wrote:Pax Sylvia?

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As an aside, I took a peek at my nation's leading causes of death, and noticed a stat I'd never encountered before. 0.4% of my people die of "Space Shuttle Mishap". Presumably because I have such a high Primitiveness stat, combined with the incongruous Space Program policy. Made me chuckle.

lol about the space shuttle mishap, hope it gets better

Portmanteau, Tiralta, The Blue Fire

Portmanteau wrote:Pax Sylvia?

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As an aside, I took a peek at my nation's leading causes of death, and noticed a stat I'd never encountered before. 0.4% of my people die of "Space Shuttle Mishap". Presumably because I have such a high Primitiveness stat, combined with the incongruous Space Program policy. Made me chuckle.

So, basically a big space cargo cult. That would explain it alright.

Delta Vega Iv, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Izordinia, The Blue Fire, Silliy, Elamiria

69.1% of my people die of heart disease, is that statistically significant?

Izordinia, Jazur, The Blue Fire, Silliy, Friedens Reich

Pantumaca wrote:69.1% of my people die of heart disease, is that statistically significant?

82.1% of my people die peacefully from old age

AND MORE PEOPLE DIE FROM AXOLOTL ATTACKS THAN NUCLEAR SPILLS

(1.4% of people die from axolotl attacks, 0.7% of people die from nuclear spills)

Izordinia, Jazur, The Blue Fire, Pantumaca

Also apologies, in trying to get the template for my new Mattachine Press Article while on my phone and not paying enough attention, I deleted one of the older ones, itÂ’ll be back up in about an hour and IÂ’ll put a tag so yall know itÂ’s a repost and not the holiday special post

Typica, Tiralta, Izordinia, Jazur, Boxiia, Silliy

Tay-Mania wrote:tax evasion is legal now!!!

Well no, but as long as the forest people are living in harmony with the attack beavers and aren't disturbing the ecosystem, I won't go after them. They are just living in peace, after all.

They are the reason everyone else is paying 88.7% of their income in taxes though. Maybe, just maybe, if there were more people paying taxes, everyone would need to pay less? That's probably a lie but still.

Although honestly if my nation's tax system is anything like the US I can't say I blame them. Filing my own taxes is a nightmare because of an obscure tax law that applies to me. I haven't thought about my nation's tax system but I would hope it's been drastically simplified by now instead of keeping it as complicated as possible because tax software companies keep lobbying to practically force people to use them.

Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Izordinia, Jazur, The Blue Fire, Tay-Mania

I just feel bad for the 2.6% of my population who die from being attacked by woodpeckers

Portmanteau, Tiralta, Izordinia, The Blue Fire, Elamiria, Coludistan

Araine wrote:I just feel bad for the 2.6% of my population who die from being attacked by woodpeckers

at least yours kinda makes sense, 1.4% of my people die via AXOLOTLS.

Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Izordinia, The Blue Fire, Elamiria

What do you think of my W.A Account's (New Milford City Embassy Complex A-5) Flag

[url]https://i.imgur.com/UicEci7.png[/url]

Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Izordinia, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Istastioner wrote:What do you think of my W.A Account's (New Milford City Embassy Complex A-5) Flag

[url]https://i.imgur.com/UicEci7.png[/url]

I like how you've combined them!

Araine, Istastioner, The Blue Fire

Istastioner wrote:What do you think of my W.A Account's (New Milford City Embassy Complex A-5) Flag

[url]https://i.imgur.com/UicEci7.png[/url]

It looks cool

Araine, Tiralta, Istastioner, Jazur

Tiralta wrote:I like how you've combined them!

Izordinia wrote:It looks cool

Thanks it was really hard to make but it was totally worth it

Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Izordinia

Istastioner wrote:What do you think of my W.A Account's (New Milford City Embassy Complex A-5) Flag

I dig what you did with the WA symbol. Did you come up with the symbol within the wreath itself? Sort of a visualization of a radio broadcast or sonar or something like that. They look good together. And overall, it looks like a passport cover, which is neat.

Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Istastioner, Izordinia, Morrigan

Portmanteau wrote:I dig what you did with the WA symbol. Did you come up with the symbol within the wreath itself? Sort of a visualization of a radio broadcast or sonar or something like that. They look good together. And overall, it looks like a passport cover, which is neat.

Yes, I did

The Design is based off of a circular legislator layout with 1/4 taken out in the top

[spoiler=Legislator layouts]https://i.imgur.com/0hIlYof.jpg[/spoiler]

Typica, Tiralta, Izordinia, The Blue Fire

Trying to get into the discord server that stuff ain't working

Coludistan wrote:Trying to get into the discord server that stuff ain't working

That means you're banned

Tiralta, The Blue Fire

The Magna Sylvae Societas is up, register now! (it's the thing for countries with quite significant return to monke rates)

Chacapoya, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Ban Oldern wrote:The Magna Sylvae Societas is up, register now! (it's the thing for countries with quite significant return to monke rates)

Alright, I'm willing to join. Where do I apply? I'm pretty sure I have enough people lost in the wilderness.

Ban Oldern wrote:It's in #map-treaties in discord

Got it. I'll join it sometime, once I actually start using the discord

Tiralta, The Blue Fire

Estebere wrote:Alright, I'm willing to join. Where do I apply? I'm pretty sure I have enough people lost in the wilderness.

It's in #map-treaties in discord

Tiralta

Ban Oldern wrote:It's in #map-treaties in discord

How much should be lost in the wilderness (#%)

Tiralta, Tageszentia

Ban Oldern wrote:It's in #map-treaties in discord

It's probably helpful to make a dispatch about it as not everyone uses discord!

Araine, Izordinia, Jazur, The Blue Fire, Tageszentia, Pompier-Pyromane

I finally did it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This took so much https://www.nationstates.net/nation=aephony/detail=factbook/id=1964329

The Star Enpire, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Izordinia, Jazur, Estebere, The Blue Fire, Tageszentia, Experimental Simulation 01

Aephony wrote:I finally did it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This took so much https://www.nationstates.net/nation=aephony/detail=factbook/id=1964329

Ae!!! This is so cool.

Typica, Aephony

Izordinia wrote:How much should be lost in the wilderness (#%)

25%

Tiralta wrote:It's probably helpful to make a dispatch about it as not everyone uses discord!

alr I'll make a dispatch rq

Tiralta, Izordinia, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Hey everyone, just wanted to bring your attention to and get your thoughts on an upcoming GA proposal, Repeal: Star Gazing Day. This aims to repeal GAR 687, Star Gazing Day, which established an internationally-recognised holiday during which WA nations extinguished all non-essential lights so that their citizens could spend the evening looking at the stars. According to the repeal, this aim is short-sighted in that crime is elevated when the lights are off, non-WA countries bordering WA countries will cause light pollution over border areas, and expouses the idea that this whole thing is a bit silly when we should be looking at the ground.

If my tone hasn't given it away, I think this repeal is absolutely moronic and I can't really figure out why it's getting to vote. The original resolution is entirely harmless- in fact, it forces nations to do exactly nothing. There are no mandates in Star Gazing Day, so the thought that it's going to create some great danger or open up legal precedent based on wording is baseless. In fact, if I didn't know better, I'd think there was something going on behind the scenes based on the first several delegates who approved it.

But it's possible I'm missing something. What are your thoughts?

The Star Enpire, Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Portmanteau, Aephony, Tiralta, Jazur, Estebere, The Blue Fire, Ethierys, Ban Oldern, Tageszentia

I find it offensive that everyone has time to spare to look at the stars and not to look at PANTUMACA

Typica, Jazur, The Blue Fire, Tageszentia, Friedens Reich

Sylh Alanor wrote:Hey everyone, just wanted to bring your attention to and get your thoughts on an upcoming GA proposal, Repeal: Star Gazing Day. This aims to repeal GAR 687, Star Gazing Day, which established an internationally-recognised holiday during which WA nations extinguished all non-essential lights so that their citizens could spend the evening looking at the stars. According to the repeal, this aim is short-sighted in that crime is elevated when the lights are off, non-WA countries bordering WA countries will cause light pollution over border areas, and expouses the idea that this whole thing is a bit silly when we should be looking at the ground.

If my tone hasn't given it away, I think this repeal is absolutely moronic and I can't really figure out why it's getting to vote. The original resolution is entirely harmless- in fact, it forces nations to do exactly nothing. There are no mandates in Star Gazing Day, so the thought that it's going to create some great danger or open up legal precedent based on wording is baseless. In fact, if I didn't know better, I'd think there was something going on behind the scenes based on the first several delegates who approved it.

But it's possible I'm missing something. What are your thoughts?

I love how the repeal says that participation in International Stargazing Day would endanger pedestrians on streets...

... even though cars have headlights

oh, also, WA delegates are typically pretty powerful and would be able to make their regions abide by International Stargazing Day if they so chose

Delta Vega Iv, The Blue Fire, The Styrian Empire

Ban Oldern wrote:I love how the repeal says that participation in International Stargazing Day would endanger pedestrians on streets...

... even though cars have headlights

oh, also, WA delegates are typically pretty powerful and would be able to make their regions abide by International Stargazing Day if they so chose

Delegates aren't in charge of individual nations.

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Sylh Alanor wrote:Delegates aren't in charge of individual nations.

Yes, but one of the big things of the repeal is "well, if people like it so much why don't they make it a regional law"

Delta Vega Iv, The Blue Fire

Ban Oldern wrote:Yes, but one of the big things of the repeal is "well, if people like it so much why don't they make it a regional law"

Regions aren't canonical to the World Assembly; IC there are only nations (national law) and the World Assembly (international law). There may be bilateral or multilateral treaties, but mostly those can only be observed hypothetically. While they are the executive leader for some regions, delegates are only given power to vote with a bonus equal to their endorsements and don't receive any powers from the WA itself. Since they are a gameplay mechanic, like the General Secretariat, they are not acknowledged or acknowledgable in the General Assembly.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Though beware, I may entrance thee with intense astronomical fascination if given the chance.

Jazur, The Blue Fire

Hello Refugian friends!

Forest's ninth annual Photo Contest is beginning, and as has been the case in past years, submissions are open to anyone from our embassy regions. It's one of our oldest traditions and the stakes are low, so we'd love to see some submissions from y'all! :)

You can find the details here:

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1964641

Happy photographing!

Chacapoya, Typica, Narwhal, Melenavenia, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Whatermelons Second Country, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Morrigan, Ullrani, Sempera, The Blue Fire, Pantumaca, Tageszentia

Mount Seymour wrote:Hello Refugian friends!

Forest's ninth annual Photo Contest is beginning, and as has been the case in past years, submissions are open to anyone from our embassy regions. It's one of our oldest traditions and the stakes are low, so we'd love to see some submissions from y'all! :)

You can find the details here:

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1964641

Happy photographing!

Oooh this is so cool, thanks! I finally have a better phone camera and some photos I can submit this year :D

Mount Seymour, Typica, Morrigan, The Blue Fire

Hey people ! I'm bad at social cues and don't know how things work around here yet, so if you received a telegram with me asking about your country flag it's just me being a flag nerd alright? I ask those weird questions because i love custom flags and the way people adapt narratives and complex ideas into an effective abstract design.

Also if you want to infodumb about your OC flag (original country do not steal), my telegrams are the gapping maw you can feed your nerdy micro-knowledge to o7

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Jazur, Morrigan, The Blue Fire, The Styrian Empire

Pompier-Pyromane wrote:snip

If you have discord, I'd suggest joining the regional server as it's great for chatting about that stuff

Chacapoya, Typica, Aephony, The Blue Fire, Pompier-Pyromane

Sylh Alanor wrote:In fact, if I didn't know better, I'd think there was something going on behind the scenes based on the first several delegates who approved it.

I think you nailed it. I'm not especially involved in these matters, but even I've picked up on the petty warring going on in raiding/defending these days. Given the regions both authors hail from...well, it seems pretty clear, to me.

Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Tiralta, The Blue Fire, Pantumaca

Referendum Notice:

Thesis 2: Coherency In Our Text was passed 14-0

https://vote.calref.ca/results/60

Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, St Leone, Tiralta, Bejeweled Potatoes, The Pacific Northwest

Jazur wrote:If you have discord, I'd suggest joining the regional server as it's great for chatting about that stuff

Is there any other chatting website???

Tiralta, The Blue Fire

Izordinia wrote:Is there any other chatting website???

We have a Discord server.

Typica, St Leone, Tiralta

I think the dumbest thing I've ever done under Refugia is thinking that when I endorse somebody else, I lose my endorsement to Typica. Good Lord

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Detjavikstan, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Liphia, Tiralta, The Blue Fire, Pantumaca

bored as hell.

every school day is pretty boring.

especially at the start of the school day, when I'm tired. (due to my inability to stop using Character.AI because the chats get too dang interesting!!)

...

what do y'all think of these types of nations? Anti-Furryist Republic

Typica, St Leone, Izordinia, Jazur, Sempera, Tageszentia

Silliy wrote:...

what do y'all think of these types of nations? ...

These nations make me furryis(t) !

Izordinia, Jazur, The Blue Fire, Ethierys, Silliy

Silliy wrote:bored as hell.

every school day is pretty boring.

especially at the start of the school day, when I'm tired. (due to my inability to stop using Character.AI because the chats get too dang interesting!!)

...

what do y'all think of these types of nations? Anti-Furryist Republic

1) I can relate to that. I guess I might be twice your age, but my job is boring, and chatbots are far more interesting than the dumb texts I need to translate. I have next-to-zero self-discipline, so yeah.

2) That nation is described by the game as having a rising anti-lgbt population, which makes me wonder about the game's description of it as "pleasant." Pleasant for whom? The Roman Empire was pretty pleasant, for the ruling classes. For slaves, or for the Poor, it was hell. So, No. I'd rather have no interaction with such nations whatsoever.

On other news, I had today half a red pomela. Its peel is 100% yellow, but its inside is red. And, like all pomelas, it was full of pits. Bah.

I want to be / where the sun warms the sky

When it's time for siesta / you can watch them go by

Beautiful faces / no cares in this world

Where a girl loves a boy / and a boy, loves...

Who cares whom?

(Madonna, La Isla Bonita, last line paraphrased)

Izordinia, The Blue Fire, Ethierys, Silliy, Tageszentia

Silliy wrote:what do y'all think of these types of nations?

In future can we not tag folks who aren't in our region on the RMB? They can't post here so it's just a random ping for them.

Typica, Araine, Izordinia, The Blue Fire, Pantumaca, Tageszentia

Tiralta wrote:In future can we not tag folks who aren't in our region on the RMB? They can't post here so it's just a random ping for them.

It would be nice if we can post in every regionÂ

Izordinia wrote:It would be nice if we can post in every regionÂ…

I'm gonna have to disagree lol. That would mean fascists and transphobic people would have free reign in our rmb.

Chacapoya, Typica, Melenavenia, Araine, Liphia, Tiralta, Izordinia, Jazur, The Blue Fire, Ethierys, Silliy, Pantumaca, Tageszentia, Pompier-Pyromane

Sylh Alanor wrote:I'm gonna have to disagree lol. That would mean fascists and transphobic people would have free reign in our rmb.

TRANSPHOBES?? HOMOPHOBES??? PEOPLE WHO HATE FURRIES??? we cannot let our sacred lgbt paradise fall under the hands of some andrew tate fanboy

Delta Vega Iv, Weirtopia, Sempera, The Blue Fire, Ethierys, Silliy, Pompier-Pyromane, Sinzalia

Sylh Alanor wrote:Hey everyone, just wanted to bring your attention to and get your thoughts on an upcoming GA proposal, Repeal: Star Gazing Day. This aims to repeal GAR 687, Star Gazing Day, which established an internationally-recognised holiday during which WA nations extinguished all non-essential lights so that their citizens could spend the evening looking at the stars. According to the repeal, this aim is short-sighted in that crime is elevated when the lights are off, non-WA countries bordering WA countries will cause light pollution over border areas, and expouses the idea that this whole thing is a bit silly when we should be looking at the ground.

If my tone hasn't given it away, I think this repeal is absolutely moronic and I can't really figure out why it's getting to vote. The original resolution is entirely harmless- in fact, it forces nations to do exactly nothing. There are no mandates in Star Gazing Day, so the thought that it's going to create some great danger or open up legal precedent based on wording is baseless. In fact, if I didn't know better, I'd think there was something going on behind the scenes based on the first several delegates who approved it.

But it's possible I'm missing something. What are your thoughts?

Just a reminder on this. Does anyone else have thoughts on it?

Chacapoya, Typica, Tiralta, Izordinia, The Blue Fire, Tageszentia

Sylh Alanor wrote:Just a reminder on this. Does anyone else have thoughts on it?

I agree as we are supposed to create a well-ordered society.

Delta Vega Iv, Izordinia, Tageszentia

Sylh Alanor wrote:Just a reminder on this. Does anyone else have thoughts on it?

There was a legality challenge, it was deemed legal but I think the challengerÂ’s point still stands in that I definitely wouldnÂ’t have read the target that way and was a little confused as to what the repeal author meant by 4.2 at first as well.

ItÂ’s not illegal, just an unconventional way of labeling clauses. ThatÂ’s just another reason I feel like it shouldnÂ’t be on the books, I think itÂ’s better when resolutions are more clear, as in if the repeal points to a specific location in the target you should be able to find it where you were told to look instead of needing to read the resolution and find it yourself. ItÂ’s not difficult to find by any means but I still donÂ’t like it. I wouldnÂ’t want other authors to also start labeling clauses that way, especially for any future repeals of longer resolutions.

I also think thereÂ’s no point in repealing because the resolution is pretty harmless. I mean there are no requirements to comply with other than observing the day exists, the rest is only encouragement. I was going to vote against regardless but I just wanted to add that little bit.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Izordinia, The Blue Fire, Pantumaca, Tageszentia

Maharajas wrote:I agree as we are supposed to create a well-ordered society.

What part of the original resolution do you think takes away from a well-ordered society?

The Pacific Northwest wrote:-snip-

That's a fair assessment. Most of my dislike of the repeal comes from the obvious bad intentions behind it, but I agree that ultimately, the target causes no harm.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Izordinia, The Blue Fire, Tageszentia

I LOVE reading the region's board!!!!!!

I dunno if it is okay to lurk like this; most of the time I either don't have anything interesting to say or I just give up mid-way of writing a message.

Silliy wrote:bored as hell.

every school day is pretty boring.

especially at the start of the school day, when I'm tired. (due to my inability to stop using Character.AI because the chats get too dang interesting!!)

...

what do y'all think of these types of nations? Anti-Furryist Republic

I'm not sure if I can really relate to this— I don't find school boring at all, but I am pretty tired during most of the day (my sleep schedule is incredibly disfuncional and I completely have ruined it). Now, moving into those types of nations and regions...I really don't know, I guess I don't really mind them; as long as I don't have to interact with them I don't mind them existing.

Delta Vega Iv, Izordinia, Silliy

Sylh Alanor wrote:That's a fair assessment. Most of my dislike of the repeal comes from the obvious bad intentions behind it, but I agree that ultimately, the target causes no harm.

I agree with you on all these points. Genuinely the only thing keeping me in the World Assembly these days is being a Member State here, otherwise I'd resign over the unavoidable pettiness of it all.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Duneraven, Izordinia, The Blue Fire

Tiralta wrote:I agree with you on all these points. Genuinely the only thing keeping me in the World Assembly these days is being a Member State here, otherwise I'd resign over the unavoidable pettiness of it all.

IÂ’ve been trying to get into the WA more but yeah thereÂ’s a ton of pettiness. I can tolerate most of what goes on in the GA because there are people who genuinely seem nice and helpful (Kenmoria for example) but the SC is just so gatekeepy, even more than the GA from what IÂ’ve seen.

I swear if youÂ’re not an already established SC author thereÂ’s basically zero chance of passing anything, and I think a good half or more of threads IÂ’ve looked at where the author wasnÂ’t one of those prolific SC authors there were multiple people being unnecessarily rude and confrontational.

IÂ’ve seen some of that in the GA too but to a lesser extent and it seems new authors at least have some chance of passing something every so often. The target resolution was written by a first time author as far as I can see (first on that nation at least). Then again look at the petty repeal attempt. At least it passed in the first place.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Portmanteau, Tiralta, The Blue Fire, Tageszentia

The Pacific Northwest wrote:There was a legality challenge, it was deemed legal but I think the challengerÂ’s point still stands in that I definitely wouldnÂ’t have read the target that way and was a little confused as to what the repeal author meant by 4.2 at first as well.

ItÂ’s not illegal, just an unconventional way of labeling clauses. ThatÂ’s just another reason I feel like it shouldnÂ’t be on the books, I think itÂ’s better when resolutions are more clear, as in if the repeal points to a specific location in the target you should be able to find it where you were told to look instead of needing to read the resolution and find it yourself. ItÂ’s not difficult to find by any means but I still donÂ’t like it. I wouldnÂ’t want other authors to also start labeling clauses that way, especially for any future repeals of longer resolutions.

I also think thereÂ’s no point in repealing because the resolution is pretty harmless. I mean there are no requirements to comply with other than observing the day exists, the rest is only encouragement. I was going to vote against regardless but I just wanted to add that little bit.

I was against the original on the basis that it was just a harmless, inoffensive thing. The resolution's "mandates" could be just as easily delivered by an international astronomy organisation, who could definitely organise it to better effect than the WA. But now that's in place I don't support going out of the way to repeal it. I am of the strong opinion that a repeal must be absolutely necessary to achieving the WA's goal. Since the target, by virtue of basically not doing anything, doesn't do anything bad I don't see a reason to go after it. Just leave it be. Of course, NSGP political reasons and the repeal-happy GA trend is the perfect storm for this stinker to reach vote.

The Pacific Northwest wrote:IÂ’ve been trying to get into the WA more but yeah thereÂ’s a ton of pettiness. I can tolerate most of what goes on in the GA because there are people who genuinely seem nice and helpful (Kenmoria for example) but the SC is just so gatekeepy, even more than the GA from what IÂ’ve seen.

I swear if youÂ’re not an already established SC author thereÂ’s basically zero chance of passing anything, and I think a good half or more of threads IÂ’ve looked at where the author wasnÂ’t one of those prolific SC authors there were multiple people being unnecessarily rude and confrontational.

IÂ’ve seen some of that in the GA too but to a lesser extent and it seems new authors at least have some chance of passing something every so often. The target resolution was written by a first time author as far as I can see (first on that nation at least). Then again look at the petty repeal attempt. At least it passed in the first place.

Honestly the SC really isn't that bad. I'll go so far as to say that it's way easier to pass something in the SC as a total newbie than the GA. So long as you have a solid, uncontroversial target and have actually read some good SC resolutions/Westinor's amazing guide and applied these standards to your own writing, you've basically gotten the badge. Of course, finding a target that hasn't been commended or condemned before is tricky, but there are many unrecognised players from various spheres in the SC Ideas Thread that could be worthwhile targets if you're desperate to pass something.

And the GA... well, good luck starting out there. My strongest recommendation is to NOT be all about the authorship. Just start of by commenting, debating, being in-character. That will 1) get you a better hold of GA knowledge and history and of proposal standards that will aid your writing 2) be more fun than the endless tiresome legal nitpicking that is ubiquitous.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Portmanteau, The Blue Fire, Pantumaca

Tay-Mania wrote:TRANSPHOBES?? HOMOPHOBES??? PEOPLE WHO HATE FURRIES??? we cannot let our sacred lgbt paradise fall under the hands of some andrew tate fanboy

praise be 🙏

andrew tater tot sucks ngl

Izordinia, The Blue Fire, Tay-Mania, Tayova

https://imgflip.com/m/MS_memer_group/tag/what+vibes+do+i+give+off

what vibe do give off?

Delta Vega Iv

Sylh Alanor wrote:I'm gonna have to disagree lol. That would mean fascists and transphobic people would have free reign in our rmb.

HmmÂ… I guess youare right, how about only letting those from other free regionsÂ

Izordinia wrote:HmmÂ… I guess youare right, how about only letting those from other free regionsÂ…

If only such fine tuning was possible. Even for your own embassy regions, the regional controls don't allow for much flexibility when it comes to access to RMB posting. You can either provide blanket allowance for posting privileges from all embassy regions, or you can not allow it at all. There's a level where you only allow posting privileges from regional officers who have "Communication" authority, though it's not that useful and, again, has only the binary of on/off for everyone. It would be nice for there to be something like a toggle switch next to each embassy to allow regional officers to choose a different policy for each region.

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Tiralta, Izordinia, The Blue Fire

Portmanteau wrote:If only such fine tuning was possible. Even for your own embassy regions, the regional controls don't allow for much flexibility when it comes to access to RMB posting. You can either provide blanket allowance for posting privileges from all embassy regions, or you can not allow it at all. There's a level where you only allow posting privileges from regional officers who have "Communication" authority, though it's not that useful and, again, has only the binary of on/off for everyone. It would be nice for there to be something like a toggle switch next to each embassy to allow regional officers to choose a different policy for each region.

OhÂ… sad :(, yea

Here's a fresh-off-the-presses pocket guide to help you all when you're out there in the WA wilderness. It'll help you identify a particularly nasty little invasive pest out there. Read my analysis of the issue so you'll be prepared to act when it appears approximately three hours from now:

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1965894

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Honeydewistania, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Tiralta, The Pacific Northwest, Ullrani, Nahelia, The Blue Fire, Antrania, Pantumaca

0 wrote:A Bigfoot departed this region for The Pacific Northwest.

The most real thing I've ever seen

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Aephony, Tiralta, Estebere, The Blue Fire, Hasunosora

Refuge Isle wrote:The most real thing I've ever seen

Considering our rule against sleepers, I feel like I should confirm that that is not one of my nations, nor is that my region.

I have my own puppet region now and thatÂ’s not what I called it lol.

It is funny though.

Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Aephony, Tiralta, Estebere, The Blue Fire, Cryster

The Pacific Northwest wrote:Considering our rule against sleepers, I feel like I should confirm that that is not one of my nations, nor is that my region.

I have my own puppet region now and thatÂ’s not what I called it lol.

It is funny though.

How many bigfoots do you have?

Chacapoya, Typica, The Blue Fire

Tiralta wrote:How many bigfoots do you have?

I have 31 puppets currently, 11 are just for answering issues in different ways to see what different nations I can get, and 20 are pure card farms. None are called bigfoot anything, although they probably do have bigfeet (bigfoots?) living in them.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Morrigan, The Blue Fire, Aseanindia

I have about two bigfoots. One's my right foots and the other's my left foots.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Portmanteau, St Leone, Tiralta, The Pacific Northwest, Estebere, The Blue Fire

Silliy wrote:https://imgflip.com/m/MS_memer_group/tag/what+vibes+do+i+give+off

what vibe do give off?

You give off silly vibes (or, should I say... silliy vibes?) but in a good way. Sort of goofy & generally good vibes.

Aephony, Izordinia, Silliy

Refuge Isle wrote:I have about two bigfoots. One's my right foots and the other's my left foots.

i have three; my two right foots and my left foots

(ban oldern please help something went wrong with the prismagylph)

Izordinia, Estebere

Hey everyone, i just joined. Thanks for having me!

Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Portmanteau, Aephony, Tiralta, Istastioner, Izordinia, Morrigan, The Blue Fire, Toothbrush, Tageszentia

Valtena wrote:Hey everyone, i just joined. Thanks for having me!

Welcome to Refugia

Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Izordinia, The Blue Fire, Valtena

Istastioner wrote:Welcome to Refugia

Thank you!

Typica, Istastioner, Izordinia

Hello there! Also fairly new here, haven't been too talkative so far. I've been enjoying the Refugian vibes!

Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Istastioner, Izordinia, Sempera, The Blue Fire, Aseanindia, Tageszentia, Valtena

Greetings all, we're a few days into the December 2023 Endotarting Drive and I've just notice that we've been able to cobble together 19 new golden 1% badges in endorsements since the event began. We've also added around 1,700 new endorsements, and our region is close to getting 4,000 more influence every day because of them. If we can get a few more, we'll be at the first reward benchmark. The people who love giving out endorsements are really good at it, but the only way we'll hit more benchmarks and get more rewards is if everyone helps out.

The region could really use the help of the following people who have endorsed twenty or fewer nations:

[spoiler][table][tr][td]Nation[/td][td]Endorsements Given[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Altruismia[/td][td]19[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Crownedland[/td][td]19[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Bibliotheca[/td][td]18[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Hoqeallistan[/td][td]17[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Detjavikstan[/td][td]17[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Silliy[/td][td]17[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Onnett[/td][td]15[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Trattativa[/td][td]15[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Keskea[/td][td]14[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Edmaraver[/td][td]13[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Tay-Mania[/td][td]13[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Jayche[/td][td]13[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Equity[/td][td]11[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Big Small[/td][td]10[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Aseanindia[/td][td]9[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Theolica[/td][td]9[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Targis[/td][td]8[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Socialist Czechoslovak[/td][td]8[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Holmis[/td][td]8[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Heinfield[/td][td]8[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]No God[/td][td]7[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Zabruhmoment Of Vehemesht[/td][td]7[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Anarchyarctic[/td][td]6[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Kodian Republic[/td][td]6[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Hanopia[/td][td]5[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Stagorod[/td][td]5[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Elamiria[/td][td]4[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Trubania[/td][td]4[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Neo Daria[/td][td]4[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Adawu[/td][td]3[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Adorus[/td][td]3[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Outremer Arabia[/td][td]3[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Sinzalia[/td][td]3[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]New Cinder[/td][td]2[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Talvezout[/td][td]2[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Argicula[/td][td]1[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Riverfoot[/td][td]1[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Slaytastica[/td][td]1[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Frankias[/td][td]1[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Telorina[/td][td]1[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]The New Dominion[/td][td]1[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Zahmoonduh[/td][td]1[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Bulligta[/td][td]1[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Fourcats[/td][td]1[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Cartistonia[/td][td]1[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Tayova[/td][td]1[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Allenya[/td][td]1[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Himmel Ende[/td][td]1[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]The Blood Wolf[/td][td]1[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Discoland[/td][td]1[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Borderless Region[/td][td]1[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Aquae Argenteae[/td][td]1[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Krattler[/td][td]1[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Winlandy[/td][td]1[/td][/tr]

[/table][/spoiler]

Please endorse as many people as you can so we can increase our regional security and hand out some card prizes and more to every WA member of the region.

I created https://tart.calref.ca/ for the purpose of making endorsing easier, so if you're overwhelmed by the amount of nations, please give that tool a try to help locate people for you to endorse by just plugging in your nation name.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Liphia, Aephony, Tiralta, Istastioner, Izordinia, Sempera, The Blue Fire, Tay-Mania, Tageszentia, Valtena, Cryster

Sylh Alanor wrote:Hey everyone, just wanted to bring your attention to and get your thoughts on an upcoming GA proposal, Repeal: Star Gazing Day. This aims to repeal GAR 687, Star Gazing Day, which established an internationally-recognised holiday during which WA nations extinguished all non-essential lights so that their citizens could spend the evening looking at the stars. According to the repeal, this aim is short-sighted in that crime is elevated when the lights are off, non-WA countries bordering WA countries will cause light pollution over border areas, and expouses the idea that this whole thing is a bit silly when we should be looking at the ground.

If my tone hasn't given it away, I think this repeal is absolutely moronic and I can't really figure out why it's getting to vote. The original resolution is entirely harmless- in fact, it forces nations to do exactly nothing. There are no mandates in Star Gazing Day, so the thought that it's going to create some great danger or open up legal precedent based on wording is baseless. In fact, if I didn't know better, I'd think there was something going on behind the scenes based on the first several delegates who approved it.

But it's possible I'm missing something. What are your thoughts?

because star gazing is cool as heck boi

Chacapoya, Typica, Tiralta, Izordinia, Morrigan, The Blue Fire, Tageszentia, Valtena, The San Marinese

The Blue Fire wrote:i have three; my two right foots and my left foots

(ban oldern please help something went wrong with the prismagylph)

uhhh

not sure if it's safe to go back into pure human form right away because of the immense physical exertion (which isn't noticeable in most transformations but is dangerous in turning back to a human) so just turn urself into an eagle or smthn for a little bit, eat a ton, and then when you have enough fat stored you can go back

not sure tho I've only tested this on a bunch of lab rats by turning them into humans and they got ravenously hungry for no apparent reason

Izordinia, The Blue Fire

Why is chick fil a anti gay, thatÂ’s weird for such a popular brand

The Blue Fire, Valtena

We here in Estebere have three bigfeet: My right foot, left foot, and the guy living next to the Refugia Embassy.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Tiralta, Izordinia, The Blue Fire, Silliy

Estebere wrote:We here in Estebere have three bigfeet: My right foot, left foot, and the guy living next to the Refugia Embassy.

Lol

I have 0 Bigfeet because the Sasquatch community in Hjuin considers "bigfoot" a derogatory term

Delta Vega Iv, Izordinia, The Blue Fire, Penocamptt

Ban Oldern wrote:uhhh

not sure if it's safe to go back into pure human form right away because of the immense physical exertion (which isn't noticeable in most transformations but is dangerous in turning back to a human) so just turn urself into an eagle or smthn for a little bit, eat a ton, and then when you have enough fat stored you can go back

i am really good at metabolisming so it might be a bit before i get that much energy, but thanks for the help.

maybe i can turn into a space leviathon; a good bite or two of jupiter should be enough energy, right?

Delta Vega Iv, Izordinia, Jazur, Aseanindia

Oh man skibidi you got rizz like Ohio but you got fine gyatt but it got fanum taxed ah you feel me bro?

Tiralta, Bejeweled Potatoes, Izordinia, Tageszentia

Melenavenia wrote:Oh man skibidi you got rizz like Ohio but you got fine gyatt but it got fanum taxed ah you feel me bro?

This feels like some sort of curse

Chacapoya, Typica, Melenavenia, Araine, Tiralta, Izordinia, Sempera, The Blue Fire, Silliy, Valtena

Tuluni wrote:This feels like some sort of curse

👽

Tiralta, Izordinia, Tuluni, The Blue Fire, Silliy, Tageszentia

Melenavenia wrote:👽

boy, why you so gnarp gnarp? like fr, you got me questioning my glorpian ong 👽

Melenavenia, Aephony, Izordinia, The Blue Fire, Tageszentia

Estebere wrote:We here in Estebere have three bigfeet: My right foot, left foot, and the guy living next to the Refugia Embassy.

I'm the guy outside the Refugia embassy.

Tiralta, Izordinia, Jazur, The Blue Fire

If bigfeet have a typical size range of both body and foot, then are they just averagefeet? Are the only true bigfoots ones that are actually above average? Or are there bigfoots and big bigfeets?

Melenavenia wrote:Oh man skibidi you got rizz like Ohio but you got fine gyatt but it got fanum taxed ah you feel me bro?

I understood like 5% of that statement

Oh no, IÂ’m not with it anymore

Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Araine, Tiralta, The Blue Fire

Tuluni wrote:This feels like some sort of curse

How do you do fellow kids (☞▀ ͜ʖ͡▀ )🛹☞

Chacapoya, Araine, Tiralta, Tuluni, The Blue Fire, Silliy

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