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When you tag people, you ping them with a notification. You should probably not do that, especially since they can't post here.

Most of the delegates voting for are treaty-bound to do so, or are of the brand of defender that enjoys this kind of political pursuit. They have no desire or capacity to change their vote anyway.

Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Antimai, Uwuguaya, Southern Monimbawk Viche

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Refuge Isle wrote:When you tag people, you ping them with a notification. You should probably not do that, especially since they can't post here.

Most of the delegates voting for are treaty-bound to do so, or are of the brand of defender that enjoys this kind of political pursuit. They have no desire or capacity to change their vote anyway.

Oh ok, thank you for clarifying this. Can Souls be condemned again though?

Antimai

Uwuguaya wrote:Oh ok, thank you for clarifying this. Can Souls be condemned again though?

Mechanically? Yes, but it would be politically unfeasible and, if my resolution wasn't good enough, I don't think any draft will be. So it would be functionally repealed for the foreseeable future if successful.

Antimai

I think your resolution was good enough; it was apparently even mentioned on the forum in an otherwise very condescending and overall badly mannered response.

I believe we can at least try to come up with something of the like.

Refuge Isle wrote:Mechanically? Yes, but it would be politically unfeasible and, if my resolution wasn't good enough, I don't think any draft will be. So it would be functionally repealed for the foreseeable future if successful.

Antimai

Uwuguaya wrote:You almost, just almost, convinced me there to vote for it. Also it’s only in the mild category when such a resolution really shouldn’t be. It should be more harsh, not mild. At least, as I understood it the category might make a change regarding enactment, right?

honestly? I'm not sure. iirc it affects how much it shifts WA nations stats when it comes into effect, though...

Uwuguaya wrote:I just found a mistake in the proposed SC resolution so I am strongly suggesting to repeal it entirely.

Maybe the author can withdraw it, too, or we have to start to write a repeal for the proposed resolution.

...in other news, in my brief foray to check the SC thread for this mistake that was made in the repeal... yikes 😬 good catch on that however. really not sure how it wasn't highlighted before being submitted to the SC with how much people were scrutinizing.

sorta looks like it's dissolving into petty bickering unfortunately (even if it's ic...?)

edit: awesome the petty talk has moved to the moderation board report as well 💀💀💀

Uwuguaya

Neurodiversity wrote:If in doubt, scream and shout. Tell everyone, be an activist. If you were fine with it, deep in your subconscious, you wouldn’t be having this dilemma. If you had no problem with it, you’d have no problem with the decision of what to do with it. If- hmm. You see- no. …I’m running out of ways to phrase it. Just speak up, you’d be helping yourself and probably others less brave than you.

Thank you. I've had the weekend to think this over and I feel better about my decision. All's well.

Tiralta, Antimai, Uwuguaya

Sylh Alanor wrote:See the thing you gotta know about me is, since I don't tie my vote to inter-regional pressure or requests, other delegates really wouldn't care what I have to say lol. They'll put on tiny glasses and pull out a ledger so they can point to me voting against their GA resolution on the relative sizes of salad spoons in 2020 and tell me that was the moment I was dead to them.

Wait, you voted against the Cutlery Standardisation Act? Which would had established a committee and all sorts of yummy micromanagement? My precious democracy is ruined!

You're dead to me, Sylh Alanor. From now on, we will be nemesisters until the end of time.

Cheesy Tots, Typica, Narwhal, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Liphia, Emodea, Tiralta, Antimai, Dyrand, Uwuguaya, The Tornspan

Uwuguaya wrote:I think your resolution was good enough; it was apparently even mentioned on the forum in an otherwise very condescending and overall badly mannered response.

I believe we can at least try to come up with something of the like.

I appreciate your enthusiasm about the WA - if you stick around and keep participating and learning about it, you should consider running for our WAA council position sometime - but you're fighting a losing battle here. The original condemnation is an excellent piece of writing, and the repeal at vote even acknowledges that. It's not about the quality, it's not about the target nation, it's arguable whether it's even about r/d. There are political forces that dictate how the SC works and they're aligned in such a way to ensure this repeal will pass, despite its low quality. Those same forces will likely make a replacement impossible for the time being, and submitting one would probably be an exercise in masochism.

Cheesy Tots, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Liphia, Tiralta, Antimai, Uwuguaya

Apologies for my inconsistency with being endorsable/endorsing others. That should be quite settled.

Feu De Glace, Cheesy Tots, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Tiralta, Antimai, Uwuguaya, The Tornspan

out of curiosity, i would assume blocs have been mobilized like this before for other c/c squabbles? (and most likely WA affairs in general.) or is this specific repeal notable for one reason or another in that respect?

The embassy with Celtia is now officially set to close.

Cheesy Tots, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Tidelia, Antimai

Cat, cat, cat, cat, cat! OH NO A FLEUR!

Sylh Alanor, Liphia, Tiralta, Amiyoka, Antimai, Neurodiversity

Hi again! unfortunately i ceased to exist and my endorsement of every single refugi is gone :)

Feu De Glace, Typica, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tovenia, Tiralta, Amiyoka, Antimai, Quelidriquaqnas

Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats wrote:Hi again! unfortunately i ceased to exist and my endorsement of every single refugi is gone :)

Welcome back! :D

Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats

Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats wrote:Hi again! unfortunately i ceased to exist and my endorsement of every single refugi is gone :)

Welcome back Erie!

Cheesy Tots, Junitaki-Cho, Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats

Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats wrote:Hi again! unfortunately i ceased to exist and my endorsement of every single refugi is gone :)

We shall rebuild

Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats, Tiralta, Antimai

*Throws streamers* Season 3 is officially out!

Feu De Glace, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tovenia, Tiralta, Antimai

I would once again like to ask that if you have not already voted against the Security Council resolution at vote, please consider doing so.

Also, two years ago I said that whoever was the first to complete a Season 3 Refugia collection would receive a free Season 3 Testlandia from me. That offer, though very old now, is still valid.

Feu De Glace, Cheesy Tots, Narwhal, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Tiralta, Xianland, Antimai, Wolfielandia, The Tornspan

regrettably for my nation's attempt to lower taxes and maintain social order, I may have gotten just a wee bit excited, and splurged a third of government spending into space exploration....oopsie, but at least we have star trek, right?

Typica, Tiralta, Antimai

Refuge Isle wrote:Also, two years ago I said that whoever was the first to complete a Season 3 Refugia collection would receive a free Season 3 Testlandia from me. That offer, though very old now, is still valid.

Interesting...

*Distant voice* Good Luck Liphia!

Cheesy Tots, Sylh Alanor, Liphia, Tiralta, Antimai, Wolfielandia

Estebere wrote:Interesting...

*Distant voice* Good Luck Liphia!

Liphia put so much effort into going through all Refugi to get all of the bids in a full week ago and bidding well above MV, they have an amazing well-deserved head start anyone will need a lot of bank and a lot of luck to catch up with!

Melenavenia (or indeed, anyone else!) I'll challenge you to second place though ;) No prize, just sweet, sweet bragging rights.

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Araine, Liphia, Antimai

Tiralta wrote:anyone will need a lot of bank and a lot of luck to catch up with!

Or a year

*Laughs in 0.72 Bank*

Typica, Antimai, The Tornspan

Estebere wrote:Or a year

*Laughs in 0.72 Bank*

You never know, you might get lucky and draw a card that you can sell on for a lot of bank. The debate of "measurably valuable deck" vs "personally valuable deck" is a fun one, although it's nice when those align too, of course.

Uwuguaya wrote:That’s very weak willed.

Yes, Qatar is a bad place for hosting it due to enforced slavery of guest labour (many guest labourers, mainly Indians, go their for better payment and die due to the climate and harsh conditions on the construction sites); neither FIFA nor UEFA nor any of the main football leagues do really care for the aforementioned nor LGBT+ rights, despite advertising for it. The footballers who participate are-in large parts-not in favour of LGBT+ rights either; then there’s the issue regarding sponsors like Emirates and Etihad airlines, oil companies, etc. It just goes on and on and on and is basically a long and never ending list of reasons of why not to watch the men’s World Cup 2022. To me, at least, that is.

Though I’d also be concerned from an ethical pov; meanwhile with women’s World Cup(s) it’s so far not as commercialised and bad as the men’s one. Plus all female teams do seem to be rather supportive of LGBT+ rights and people, unlike the men. Thus my stance is clear.

You are right. Still I am going to support my country. It doesn't matter to me if they are men or women. For me this is about the game, and representing the country.

But you are complitly correct. There are lots of problems with futeboll right now, and I must admit that right now, most of the womens teams are more appealing in term of game style than the mens teams, I also agree with you futeboll should be commercialized the same betwen men and women.

But I want to see my country win. And (at least for me) when the ball is on the field, all the problems are forgotten, we just have 22 players on the field doing its best. And I will support my country (and team) no matter if they are men, women, or wherever place they play in.

But yes you are complitly correct in all you said.

Uwuguaya

Tiralta wrote:You never know, you might get lucky and draw a card that you can sell on for a lot of bank. The debate of "measurably valuable deck" vs "personally valuable deck" is a fun one, although it's nice when those align too, of course.

Refugia S3 is a good example of when those align. I shouldn't need to note that, according to Refuge Isle, there are at least three Refugian Legendaries. And then just the fact that there are just so, so, so many cards, it's just...

What were we talking about again?

Chacapoya, Typica, Tiralta, Antimai

The demonym of our people is Refugi

But yes, there are three legendaries in Refugia. Myself, Sylh Alanor, and Honeydewistania

Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats, Tiralta, Tidelia, Ullrani, Antimai, Chong Qing, Uwuguaya

Tiralta wrote:Melenavenia (or indeed, anyone else!) I'll challenge you to second place though ;) No prize, just sweet, sweet bragging rights.

I literally have only 4 at this point because I only got like 200 bids in at market value. I didn't even get all the bids in cuz I am lazy.

Typica, Araine, Liphia, Tiralta, Antimai, Uwuguaya

Melenavenia wrote:I literally have only 4 at this point because I only got like 200 bids in at market value. I didn't even get all the bids in cuz I am lazy.

I went through and bid this afternoon on the ones I was missing, and it felt like you'd beaten me to a good half of them so I figured we're probably well matched for second to finish one!

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Araine, Liphia, Uwuguaya

Oh, season 3 of the cards is out, now my nation got its own card!

Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Liphia, Tiralta, Uwuguaya

Refuge Isle wrote:The demonym of our people is Refugi

But yes, there are three legendaries in Refugia. Myself, Sylh Alanor, and Honeydewistania

Can I start a petition for the new demonym to be Refuginainiteinates?

Antimai, Uwuguaya

I am preparing a new RRS draft and if there are no comments or concerns, intend to submit this in the coming days: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1798670

Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Tiralta, Antimai, West Islate

"... Crow is one of the most popular forenames in Estebere."

Huh. I suppose a lot of Esteberian parents like The Unwanteds(By Lisa McMann). Good series by the way, you should read it.

Tiralta

Hello, signing on as a Erie-Arcadia alt!

Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Tiralta, Antimai

Time to begin the pizza crusade again! Top 50 is next.

Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Survivors Win, Tiralta, Fadnesia, West Islate, Neurodiversity, Uwuguaya

I just noticed that when you buy your own card instead of saying the name of the nation like usual the notification just says “You trading card bought for x amount”. I don’t know why but that scared me. In like an “oh no, what about me” sort of way.

Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Antimai, Uwuguaya

I am broken. My path has been so long and so dark. What have I become? Who will help me? Where to now?

Cheesy Tots, Tiralta, Uwuguaya

The poll because there is no poll

What is your nation's delicacy?

Cheesy Tots, Tiralta, Uwuguaya

Alright, a new proposal is up for your voting pleasure: the "World Assembly Paper Reduction Act". I'm split on this one, personally. On one hand, going paperless does sound like a good deal, and would definitely help with being more eco-friendly. On the other hand, there are two issues. For one thing, data security. And on the opposite side of the spectrum, you also have nations which are still in the stone ages, using smoke signals and telegrams. Also, this is a complete sidebar, but the author wrote this as a complete and total joke that ended up taking on a life of its own, so there may be some levity in there. Honestly, if I just take this as a fun joke, I'll throw the author a FOR vote. But that's just me.

Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Antimai, Tavinstadt

Rejakhta wrote:Alright, a new proposal is up for your voting pleasure: the "World Assembly Paper Reduction Act". I'm split on this one, personally. On one hand, going paperless does sound like a good deal, and would definitely help with being more eco-friendly. On the other hand, there are two issues. For one thing, data security. And on the opposite side of the spectrum, you also have nations which are still in the stone ages, using smoke signals and telegrams. Also, this is a complete sidebar, but the author wrote this as a complete and total joke that ended up taking on a life of its own, so there may be some levity in there. Honestly, if I just take this as a fun joke, I'll throw the author a FOR vote. But that's just me.

I'm gonna go against this one. I don't like that it immediately undermines itself with I(A)(i)'s unclear exceptions. I don't like that it mandates digital/telephonic communications for all WA business, whether it's writing down lunch orders or issuing official statements which may benefit from notarization, signature confirmation, or other such assurances. And I don't like that it not only makes no plans to provide nations with the necessary technology for correspondence and recordkeeping, but also only allows them to be exempt if such technology "cannot be provided," failing to account for nations which may be literally capable of accepting these technologies but lack the infrastructure or expertise to use them. On top of the writing being messy and repetitive, it's an easy vote against for me.

Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Antimai, Wolfielandia, Lycanjeskai, Tavinstadt

While I for one am a big fan of going paper-less I also voted against this one cos it's like calling for an immediate stop of all use of paper products? Which, I get where they're coming from, but it feels like calling for a full stop on paper products reminds me of the move to ban plastic straws - it isn't addressing the root of the problem, just one symptom of it. Not to mention things like, record keeping. Despite what folks seem to think, digital archives alone won't be enough for record keeping purposes. You absolutely should have physical copies of something as important as your laws.

Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Antimai, Lycanjeskai, Tavinstadt

Artemis is now on the far side of the moon guys

The first human rated spacecraft to enter another sphere of influence since 1972!

Edit: it's orbiting the moon now

Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Felzus, Tiralta, Tidelia, Wolfielandia, Neurodiversity

Waywards Edge wrote:Artemis is now on the far side of the moon guys

The first human rated spacecraft to enter another sphere of influence since 1972!

Edit: it's orbiting the moon now

I just watched the NASA livestream (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvWtNx3VOUA) showing the images. Amazing as always.

Orion will remain in orbit around the Moon till 4th December.

By the way, a rocket launch will take place in Alaska in a few hours from a company called "ABL Space Systems". It's their first spaceflight. I'm not sure if there will be a webcast from them or another channel (such as NASASpaceflight livestreams Astra's launches).

Typica, Waywards Edge

Felzus wrote:I just watched the NASA livestream (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvWtNx3VOUA) showing the images. Amazing as always.

Orion will remain in orbit around the Moon till 4th December.

By the way, a rocket launch will take place in Alaska in a few hours from a company called "ABL Space Systems". It's their first spaceflight. I'm not sure if there will be a webcast from them or another channel (such as NASASpaceflight livestreams Astra's launches).

Why... Why would you launch from alaska?

Don't you want to launch from the closest location to the equator?

*visible confusion*

Edit: Typo

Felzus, Duerrenberg, Uwuguaya

Waywards Edge wrote:Why... Why would you launch from alaska?

Don't you want to launch from the closest location to the equator?

*visible confusion*

Edit: Typo

Some companies use Alaska as a launch location mainly for polar launches, but yep, it is not the best location for launching satellites to equatorial low geocentric orbits.

Typica, Waywards Edge, Uwuguaya

Felzus wrote:Some companies use Alaska as a launch location mainly for polar launches, but yep, it is not the best location for launching satellites to equatorial low geocentric orbits.

my dumb self forgot that polar orbits exists

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Time to plug PAR

Project Aces of Refugia presents:

Aces of Refugia: The Corporate War

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1793601

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1799016

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1766072

Felzus, Amiyoka

HI y'all

Tiralta, Uwuguaya

Hello everyone, just wanted to announce that Erebeste(Which is a nation that, at the time of writing this edit, has joined Refugia a few minutes ago) is an alt of mine.

Chacapoya, Typica, Tiralta, Neurodiversity, Tavinstadt, Uwuguaya

Estebere wrote:Hello everyone, just wanted to announce that Erebeste is an alt of mine.

This statement is true.

Tavinstadt, Uwuguaya

Rejakhta wrote:Alright, a new proposal is up for your voting pleasure: the "World Assembly Paper Reduction Act". I'm split on this one, personally. On one hand, going paperless does sound like a good deal, and would definitely help with being more eco-friendly. On the other hand, there are two issues. For one thing, data security. And on the opposite side of the spectrum, you also have nations which are still in the stone ages, using smoke signals and telegrams. Also, this is a complete sidebar, but the author wrote this as a complete and total joke that ended up taking on a life of its own, so there may be some levity in there. Honestly, if I just take this as a fun joke, I'll throw the author a FOR vote. But that's just me.

IC:

It’s great; Uwuguaya doesn’t have a timber-wood chipping industry anyways.

OOC:

The amount of rare earth metals needed to produce electronic devices, and parts thereof, used for digital communication is huge and on the increase still, despite those metals being finite resources. The mining of those resources is done in countries like the Democratic Republic of the Congo (a.k.a. D.R.C., formerly known as Zaire) where child labour and unsafe working conditions are an essential part of the process. The labour itself is dangerous and hard and the owners don’t seem to care about work place safety.

Yet another producer would be China, a.k.a. the P.R.C., which doesn’t have the best work place safety regulations either; also as for mining you need to dig, eventually you’ll hit the ground water and as water is being used a lot in mining, and the used or dirty water gets reintroduced into the environment, it leads to water contamination as well, amongst other environmental hazards.

So calling electronic devices used for digital communication purposes eco-friendly is a contradiction in terms (/an oxymoron).

Typica, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Tavinstadt

Uwuguaya wrote:IC:

The amount of rare earth metals needed to produce electronic devices, and parts thereof, used for digital communication is huge and on the increase still, despite those metals being finite resources. The mining of those resources is done in countries like the Democratic Republic of the Congo (a.k.a. D.R.C., formerly known as Zaire) where child labour and unsafe working conditions are an essential part of the process. The labour itself is dangerous and hard and the owners don’t seem to care about work place safety.

Yet another producer would be China, a.k.a. the P.R.C., which doesn’t have the best work place safety regulations either; also as for mining you need to dig, eventually you’ll hit the ground water and as water is being used a lot in mining, and the used or dirty water gets reintroduced into the environment, it leads to water contamination as well, amongst other environmental hazards.

So calling electronic devices used for digital communication purposes eco-friendly is a contradiction in terms (/an oxymoron).

Me omw to go mine asteroids

Typica, Tiralta

Wolfielandia wrote:While I for one am a big fan of going paper-less I also voted against this one cos it's like calling for an immediate stop of all use of paper products? Which, I get where they're coming from, but it feels like calling for a full stop on paper products reminds me of the move to ban plastic straws - it isn't addressing the root of the problem, just one symptom of it. Not to mention things like, record keeping. Despite what folks seem to think, digital archives alone won't be enough for record keeping purposes. You absolutely should have physical copies of something as important as your laws.

You shouldn’t ban plastic straws, you should tax them. Eventually making it inefficient and too tedious to produce them, alongside with less sales will make it unprofitable for businesses to produce them in the first place. Just use taxation like it ought to be used.

hello everyone! apologies for not posting since joining i got caught in playing magic the gathering and dnd stuff lol

Chacapoya, Typica, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Liphia, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Antimai, Lycanjeskai, Tavinstadt

Uwuguaya wrote:You shouldn’t ban plastic straws, you should tax them. Eventually making it inefficient and too tedious to produce them, alongside with less sales will make it unprofitable for businesses to produce them in the first place. Just use taxation like it ought to be used.

If some disabled people require plastic straws though, isn't that just (another) disability tax if we place the tax on the straws at the point of sale?

The tax burden shouldn't lie on the individual, because the individual isn't creating the problem. It should lie on those who make huge amounts of plastics that can't be recycled. If you gave incentives for businesses to make recyclable plastics, as well as incentives for those businesses to ensure the plastic was recycled e.g. by having regular recycling points that pay small amounts of money in exchange for returning plastic items, which are common in some countries, then overall, you reduce the harmful plastic use while making sure that the individuals win at the expense of the system that creates the problem, not the other way round.

Magmixia wrote:hello everyone! apologies for not posting since joining i got caught in playing magic the gathering and dnd stuff lol

Hello!

Chacapoya, Typica, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Antimai, Wolfielandia, Uwuguaya

Wait, the third season of trading cards has been released? Yes! I finally got my very own trading card!

Chacapoya, Typica, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Liphia, Tovenia, Portmanteau, Tiralta

Plastic straws are probably not as big of a factor in global warming as the pollution produced by personal cars, pointless air travel, and global shipping habits where vaporising fuel is still seen as viable if it costs $0.001 less to do that than produce or process something locally. It would be a better investment of time to tax the rich than tax plastic straw use.

Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Liphia, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Antimai, Wolfielandia, West Islate, Magmixia

Magmixia wrote:hello everyone! apologies for not posting since joining i got caught in playing magic the gathering and dnd stuff lol

No worries! We're glad you're here and having fun :)

The Star Enpire wrote:Wait, the third season of trading cards has been released? Yes! I finally got my very own trading card!

Congrats!

The Star Enpire, Typica, Liphia, Tiralta

Refuge Isle wrote:Plastic straws are probably not as big of a factor in global warming as the pollution produced by personal cars, pointless air travel, and global shipping habits where vaporising fuel is still seen as viable if it costs $0.001 less to do that than produce or process something locally. It would be a better investment of time to tax the rich than tax plastic straw use.

yeah, plastic straw bans or taxing essentially does nothing but further marginalize people w/ disabilities especially those that have difficulties with movement, and a lot of the alternatives to plastic straws are simply unfeasible due to either cost, effort in maintenance or other factors. there's also the issue of the rhetoric with individual responsibility, where corporations keep telling people "well if theres pollution its personally your fault" while dumping a ton of pollutants in the environment

Chacapoya, Typica, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Liphia, Tiralta, Antimai, Wolfielandia

you're all gay hippies

Typica

New Zari Lowtatte wrote:you're all gay hippies

Why thank you, I return the compliment :D

Typica, Liphia, Portmanteau, Antimai

-Darth Maul- wrote:I am broken. My path has been so long and so dark. What have I become? Who will help me? Where to now?

1) if you wish to scream into an abyss, this seems like exactly the kind of things for thiswebsitewillselfdestruct.com

It’s a pretty cool website, the idea is that you write messages then send them into a big void, where you can pull random messages out and read them. Nothing is traced back to you, once you send the messages you’re very unlikely to get them back (unless you keep pressing the random message button and luck is on your side). The twist? If no one sends a message on the website for 24 hours, it will self-destruct, and all the files will be deleted. I use it regularly, I’ve poured my heart out into there, it’s a beautiful creation.

2) if you want actual help, reach out to your friends. Seriously. Trust me. If they’re actual friends, they’ll be more than willing to help you. If not, at least you know now, and there’s a pretty welcoming community right here.

3) apologies for the double post, my phone still hasn’t worked out how to add a quote to an edited post.

The Star Enpire, Typica, Junitaki-Cho, Antimai

Magmixia wrote:hello everyone! apologies for not posting since joining i got caught in playing magic the gathering and dnd stuff lol

Don't worry :) that's literally the most relatable thing I've ever heard I play way too much mtg and I think it and dming are the only social things I do lol

BTW I see you like pokemon and it was my special interest for a whilllle, what's ur favourite

Typica, Tiralta, Antimai

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New Zari Lowtatte wrote:you're all gay hippies

Yes we very much are

Typica, Liphia

Lycanjeskai wrote:Don't worry :) that's literally the most relatable thing I've ever heard I play way too much mtg and I think it and dming are the only social things I do lol

BTW I see you like pokemon and it was my special interest for a whilllle, what's ur favourite

pokemon is still my special interest... which sucks bc of the recent fiasco with scarlet and violet x_x. also pog, a fellow dm *insert handshake emoji*

as for my favorite pokemon, it's hard to really pick! but my top three are wooloo, trapinch, and turtwig

Lycanjeskai

Magmixia wrote:pokemon is still my special interest... which sucks bc of the recent fiasco with scarlet and violet x_x. also pog, a fellow dm *insert handshake emoji*

as for my favorite pokemon, it's hard to really pick! but my top three are wooloo, trapinch, and turtwig

Fiasco?

Magmixia wrote:pokemon is still my special interest... which sucks bc of the recent fiasco with scarlet and violet x_x. also pog, a fellow dm *insert handshake emoji*

as for my favorite pokemon, it's hard to really pick! but my top three are wooloo, trapinch, and turtwig

I actually really enjoy scarlet and violet but that's probably because I care less about graphics and I'm a really big fan of story in video games taking priority (I mean I am a fire emblem fan)

Also yes trapinch is pog turtwig is best sinnoh starter and wooloo is extra cute but my favourite pokemon are lycanroc midday, aegislash and toxapex

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Sylh Alanor wrote:Fiasco?

the game released suuuuper buggy, with some really obvious bugs that shows the game likely wasn't playtested that much considering how overt some of the game's bugs are. it really sucks too bc ive heard the story of the game is real good, but i have a personal policy of not wanting to support the recent trend of AAA games releasing super buggy and the heads basically going "meh its fine, we'll just release a day 1 patch and stuff"

Can I just say how much I hate some issues? I had to choose the following answers:

1. Go more militaristic and threaten more capitalist countries.

2. Focus more on "my own allied bloc" diplomatically and economically

3. Join the non-aligned bloc instead

I'm thinking "Hey, I want a better economy and helping my allies is good too!", so I pick the second option. What happens? Economic output goes down, but black market goes up?!

How do you people manage some of these issues? Are there some kind of hidden messages I don't get?

Typica, Junitaki-Cho

Hello hello Refugia, tis' me.

I promise this shall be the last time I bring it up, but in case someone (somehow) hasnt seen it yet, I would like to invite you all to join RISDU!

I- eh . . I think its a good idea idk ive mentioned it like 4 times already lol, ok bye!

(oh yea, also send me a telegram if you're interested I guess) :P

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1793918

Chacapoya

Tavinstadt wrote:Can I just say how much I hate some issues? I had to choose the following answers:

1. Go more militaristic and threaten more capitalist countries.

2. Focus more on "my own allied bloc" diplomatically and economically

3. Join the non-aligned bloc instead

I'm thinking "Hey, I want a better economy and helping my allies is good too!", so I pick the second option. What happens? Economic output goes down, but black market goes up?!

How do you people manage some of these issues? Are there some kind of hidden messages I don't get?

All issues deal in extreme or exaggerated solutions, that's sort of the joke of the issues system, but sometimes they don't give you enough options to pick the angle you really want. Other times the statistical outcomes are only tangentially connected to what you'd think would happen.

Personally, I found it really unfun to answer issues "in character" based on what I thought would be best. Instead I started referring to http://www.mwq.dds.nl/ns/results/ to see what kinds of results each option actually gives and treating it as a long-term minmax thing.

Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Tiralta, Tavinstadt

New Zari Lowtatte wrote:you're all gay hippies

and you're not? lol

Typica, Waywards Edge, Antimai, Lycanjeskai, Tavinstadt

Junitaki-Cho wrote:All issues deal in extreme or exaggerated solutions, that's sort of the joke of the issues system, but sometimes they don't give you enough options to pick the angle you really want. Other times the statistical outcomes are only tangentially connected to what you'd think would happen.

Personally, I found it really unfun to answer issues "in character" based on what I thought would be best. Instead I started referring to http://www.mwq.dds.nl/ns/results/ to see what kinds of results each option actually gives and treating it as a long-term minmax thing.

Honestly, thank you. I feel like picking what I think is right gets me punished so severely most of the time. It's like my deeply conservative grandfather is giving out the results sometimes lol

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Junitaki-Cho

Tavinstadt wrote:Honestly, thank you. I feel like picking what I think is right gets me punished so severely most of the time. It's like my deeply conservative grandfather is giving out the results sometimes lol

Results from choices definitely don't feel appropriate sometimes. I just want what's best for my nation man

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Junitaki-Cho, Tavinstadt

I've been on this site for 8 years now.

What the actual hell

Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Tovenia, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Lycanjeskai, Heinfield, Betellgeuse

Talvezout wrote:I've been on this site for 8 years now.

What the actual hell

Happy hellsite politics game birthday! :P *\o/*

Delta Vega Iv, Talvezout, Typica, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Lycanjeskai

Talvezout wrote:I've been on this site for 8 years now.

What the actual hell

Congrats! I hope I get to use this hellsite political game for even half the time you have!

Talvezout, Lycanjeskai

Talvezout wrote:I've been on this site for 8 years now.

What the actual hell

Tiralta wrote:Happy hellsite politics game birthday! :P *\o/*

Heinfield wrote:Congrats! I hope I get to use this hellsite for even half the time you have!

This is your reminder that actually, it isn’t the reputable Hell, but rather it is the clearly superior Sushi Rice.

Delta Vega Iv, Talvezout, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Tiralta, Heinfield, The Islands Of Seychelles

Despite the despicableness of FIFA to allow Qatar to host the Cup, and my own refusal to watch it because of that, as a soccer (football) fan I felt inspired to design jerseys for a hypothetical Melenavenia national team.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=melenavenia/detail=factbook/id=1799295

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Araine, Tiralta

Map Update:

Greetings all,

Sylh Alanor and I have again gotten together to put out the next map update. Although there are other lands and islands open, for this particular update, I'm given to understand that there were something like six or eight conflicting applicants were trying to claim the same spot. This was the south eastern banana-shaped land, presumably because of its incredibly tall mountains. Since only one applicant can actually have the claimed land (the first one who claims it), I have attempted to make the best of an otherwise impossible situation, and raise the heightmap of the islands in the surrounding areas, and generate mountains there. So, this way many players will be able to have islands and hopefully that's an acceptable compromise.

The following nations have been added to the map:

[list]

[*]Alakatus [Refugi]

[*]Dyrand [Refugi]

[*]Estebere [Potato]

[*]Fadnesia [Refugi]

[*]Gulp-Gulp [Refugi]

[*]Jaimebaguette [Mediterranean]

[*]Lehonna [Refugi]

[*]Lycanjeskai [Robot Assassin]

[*]Mountlynd [Refugi]

[*]Prodigal [Irish]

[*]Quelidriquaqnas [Axolotl]

[*]West Islate [Vikolandic]

[/list]

Other changes:

[list]

[*]Melenavenia was expanded after nearly three years of residency

[*]A new treaty was added, called TATATATAAATATA, currently composed of Tiralta and Tidelia

[/list]

Some areas of the map may be slightly congested, and so while I'm usually pretty happy to let people remain on the map for quite a while whilst CTE'd, I'm planning to do a removal-only update in about two weeks, and all the nations that are still CTE'd by then will be taken off so that making an application will be easier. Until then, I hope you guys enjoy the November update:

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1287372

There will be a new dispatch sometime soon that will separate the treaties, to make them look a little nicer and give them more space.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Zukchiva, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Tidelia, Antimai, West Islate, Mountlynd

Refuge Isle wrote:

Other changes:

[list]

[*]Melenavenia was expanded after nearly three years of residency[/list]

I AM BIG

Delta Vega Iv, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Tiralta, Antimai, Lycanjeskai, Quelidriquaqnas

Refuge Isle wrote:Map Update:

.

moar potatoes gud

Sylh Alanor, Tiralta, Antimai, Lycanjeskai

Refuge Isle wrote:I'm given to understand that there were something like six or eight conflicting applicants were trying to claim the same spot. This was the south eastern banana-shaped land

Ah, in this case, I would be willing to remove my claim from said island and move to the island directly south of the westernmost point of Cheesy Tots, should it be presently unclaimed.

Typica

Refuge Isle wrote:A new treaty was added, called TATATATAAATATA, currently composed of Tiralta and Tidelia

Long live TATATATAAATATA

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Antimai

Estebere wrote:Ah, in this case, I would be willing to remove my claim from said island and move to the island directly south of the westernmost point of Cheesy Tots, should it be presently unclaimed.

Do you not like the area you currently inhabit?

Sylh Alanor wrote:Do you not like the area you currently inhabit?

It was in consideration of the fact that-

Oh.

Sorry, when I posted the message I hadn’t seen the current map. The current area is perfect.

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine

Estebere wrote:It was in consideration of the fact that-

Oh.

Sorry, when I posted the message I hadn’t seen the current map. The current area is perfect.

Totally understandable, I'm glad you like the area you're in <3

Typica

Pretty map needs to get even bigger soon

Araine

Nangka wrote:Pretty map needs to get even bigger soon

Perhaps the solution is a second map :pikathink:

Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Antimai

Refuge Isle wrote:Perhaps the solution is a second map :pikathink:

A new continent! Refugia's domination over the entire world is now at hand.

Typica, Antimai

DV-IV's Bunsetaag has just voted to abolish all WMD's in our glorious nation. We choose to live in Uninteresting times.

Typica, Portmanteau

Hey guys. I enjoyed designing my own fantasy national football (soccer) jerseys for my own nation so much that I was wondering if I could design jerseys for some of your nations for fun and stick it in a big factbook. :)

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Portmanteau, St Leone

Melenavenia wrote:Hey guys. I enjoyed designing my own fantasy national football (soccer) jerseys for my own nation so much that I was wondering if I could design jerseys for some of your nations for fun and stick it in a big factbook. :)

Oh that sounds fun.

Btw is it normal to get issues in a row that now i am not only developing weapons of mass destruction but also s*xbots at the same time?

Delta Vega Iv, Melenavenia

Tobiastan wrote:Oh that sounds fun.

Btw is it normal to get issues in a row that now i am not only developing weapons of mass destruction but also s*xbots at the same time?

It definitely sounds abnormal, but remember that the abnormal is the norm, as far as NS issues are concerned =)

Typica

Delta Vega Iv wrote:It definitely sounds abnormal, but remember that the abnormal is the norm, as far as NS issues are concerned =)

True =) and i guess there are worse things one can develop

Delta Vega Iv

Melenavenia wrote:Hey guys. I enjoyed designing my own fantasy national football (soccer) jerseys for my own nation so much that I was wondering if I could design jerseys for some of your nations for fun and stick it in a big factbook. :)

That would be great!

Melenavenia

Tidelia wrote:Long live TATATATAAATATA

This is actually quite funny. Well done with this new treaty, all involved. It was quite some time before I could tell the three of your nations apart :P

Melenavenia wrote:Hey guys. I enjoyed designing my own fantasy national football (soccer) jerseys for my own nation so much that I was wondering if I could design jerseys for some of your nations for fun and stick it in a big factbook. :)

Sounds fun, I'd love to have you design us a jersey. I checked out your factbook, and they look really good!

Chacapoya, Typica, Melenavenia, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Tidelia

Assembled with Dot's Region Saver.
Written by Refuge Isle.