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Alright, the proposal Repeal "Freedom of Religion" is up for debate, and the first of my problems with this is that is it very poorly written. The author of this proposal probably did a cursory glance through the resolution it's trying to repeal, and then wrote this up. In the 4th paragraph of the repeal proposal, the author seems to dislike the fact that cannibalism is prohibited for being a health risk, yet calls out licensing and disease testing mandates as being less restrictive, but also less effective. A statement that has nothing to do with practicing religion.

There's also the fact that the author also calls out the World Assembly for restricting religious practices to those that "will advance environmental protection" and "advance interests in health, safety, and good order", which makes me believe that they are reaching for reasons to decry the resolution.

In my opinion, this is getting an AGAINST vote from me, but the floor is open to those who want it.

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Tiralta, Waywards Edge, Amiyoka, Funf, Antimai

Landwallis wrote:Is my flag good? Just seeing what people's opinions are.

I like the flag! Could I ask what the colors/shapes represent?

Tiralta, Amiyoka

Wacky question for the older nations out there, but does anyone know how the game distinguishes land from marine state animals? I thought that was weird when I made mine, and it gave me the banner

Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Amiyoka

Rejakhta wrote:Alright, the proposal Repeal "Freedom of Religion" is up for debate, and the first of my problems with this is that is it very poorly written. The author of this proposal probably did a cursory glance through the resolution it's trying to repeal, and then wrote this up. In the 4th paragraph of the repeal proposal, the author seems to dislike the fact that cannibalism is prohibited for being a health risk, yet calls out licensing and disease testing mandates as being less restrictive, but also less effective. A statement that has nothing to do with practicing religion.

There's also the fact that the author also calls out the World Assembly for restricting religious practices to those that "will advance environmental protection" and "advance interests in health, safety, and good order", which makes me believe that they are reaching for reasons to decry the resolution.

In my opinion, this is getting an AGAINST vote from me, but the floor is open to those who want it.

Gonna be honest, I opened the proposal and thought "oh, this author again?" cause I'm sure I've voted against 2 or 3 of their recent proposals based on writing quality.

But yeah, I agree that this one in particular makes very little sense. I can't tell what point they're trying to make in half the paragraphs.

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Rejakhta, Amiyoka, Antimai

Avfallheim wrote:Wacky question for the older nations out there, but does anyone know how the game distinguishes land from marine state animals? I thought that was weird when I made mine, and it gave me the banner

As far as I'm aware, there are land, air, and sea animals. The latter two are hard-coded lists and if something is unknown, it's assumed to be a land animal.

There's a animal relocation thread for admin to update those lists, if there's something relatively non-niche that's been overlooked.

Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Avfallheim, Amiyoka, Antimai, Duerrenberg

Disappointed, X-02 Wyvern does not count as an air based animal

Amiyoka, Duerrenberg

Rejakhta wrote:In the 4th paragraph of the repeal proposal, the author seems to dislike the fact that cannibalism is prohibited for being a health risk, yet calls out licensing and disease testing mandates as being less restrictive, but also less effective. A statement that has nothing to do with practicing religion.

I don’t think cannibalism is prohibited by the WA at all, there’s a proposal being drafted by a secretariat to regulate, but not ban it. The proposal asserts that due to the resolution mandating any regulation of religion be done through the least restrictive means, it is keeping nations from banning cannibalism outright, instead requiring licensing and testing of that meat because it is less restrictive than a ban.

Some cultures throughout human history have practiced cannibalism as a normal cultural/religious practice. I think that’s why it’s being used as an example, it’s something that could be a religious practice that nations may want to ban due to health reasons, but can’t because of a ban is more restrictive than testing.

The Proposal wrote:Saddened that the resolution's mandate that restrictions on religious practices only be "the least restrictive means" to advance certain interests prevents member nations from advancing "safety, health, or good order" through more restrictive, albeit also more effective, means, including prohibiting cannibalism wholesale to address the practice's inherent health risks as opposed to eg licensing and disease testing mandates which are less restrictive but also far less effective

Rejakhta wrote:There's also the fact that the author also calls out the World Assembly for restricting religious practices to those that "will advance environmental protection" and "advance interests in health, safety, and good order", which makes me believe that they are reaching for reasons to decry the resolution.

The author makes the argument that the resolution’s requirement for restrictions on religious practices is too narrow, as it doesn’t include environmental protection as a permissible reason for restriction, only that of “health, safety, and good order”.

The Proposal wrote:Emphasising that the requirement that restrictions on religious practices only be to advance interests in "health, safety, or good order" is also too narrow, as there are many other reasons that a member nation might want to restrict a religious practice, such as preventing sacrifice of endangered animals to advance environmental protection

The author has drafted a replacement, the main difference between it and the resolution up for repeal being that it mandates governments not aim solely to suppress, promote, or discourage religion, and does not specify that nations regulate religious practices in the least restrictive way possible.

I voted for the repeal earlier today because I was aware there was a replacement well in the works and didn’t see anything really wrong with it when I read it. The first two paragraphs are just saying the author believes religious freedoms should be protected and that a replacement has been drafted. The only actual arguments for the repeal are that the resolution gets in the way of banning certain practices and doesn’t specifically consider environmental protection a valid reason for restriction.

Deciding what does or does not constitute a compelling practical interest, and determining whether a restriction on a religious practice could be considered to be mainly for the purpose of suppressing or discouraging religion could get tricky. At least the current resolutions requirement that restrictions be the least restrictive means necessary gives something to go on. The replacement has a few more days for feedback and improvements. If nothing changes I’ll probably change my vote to no on the repeal.

Are there any opinions on the replacement?

Typica, Tiralta, Amiyoka, Antimai

Lycanjeskai wrote:Did any one else just lose access to the server for about an hour and a half?

Yes good thing it was midnight

Amiyoka

Quelidriquaqnas wrote:Yes good thing it was midnight

It wasn’t for me ;-;

Amiyoka, Quelidriquaqnas

Quelidriquaqnas wrote:Yes good thing it was midnight

Not in my part of the world lol

Amiyoka, Quelidriquaqnas

Landwallis wrote:Is my flag good? Just seeing what people's opinions are.

Pretty good

Amiyoka, Quelidriquaqnas

I’m going to write a Factbook about the founding of my nation, is there any specific stuff about Refugia as a whole I should keep in mind?

Araine, Tiralta, Amiyoka, Quelidriquaqnas

Lycanjeskai wrote:I’m going to write a Factbook about the founding of my nation, is there any specific stuff about Refugia as a whole I should keep in mind?

Not really, go nuts! For the most part, we endorse creativity!

Araine, Tiralta, Amiyoka, Quelidriquaqnas

Rejakhta wrote:Not really, go nuts! For the most part, we endorse creativity!

Ok then, thanks! Btw in the welcome telegram it said something about a robotic cube so I’m wondering how high tech refugia is in-lore

Amiyoka, Quelidriquaqnas

Rejakhta wrote:Not really, go nuts! For the most part, we endorse creativity!

Ok then, thanks! Btw in the welcome telegram it said something about a robotic cube so I’m wondering how high tech refugia is in-lore

St Leone, Tiralta, Rejakhta, Amiyoka, Duerrenberg, Quelidriquaqnas

Lycanjeskai wrote:Ok then, thanks! Btw in the welcome telegram it said something about a robotic cube so I’m wondering how high tech refugia is in-lore

That's actually a good question. I think either Sylh or Refuge would have a better answer on that

St Leone, Tiralta, Amiyoka, Duerrenberg, Lycanjeskai, Quelidriquaqnas

Rejakhta wrote:That's actually a good question. I think either Sylh or Refuge would have a better answer on that

Ive asked this multiple times and from what what ive heard there isnt really an answer to this question :P

So in my mind its like . . idk maybe 2050-2100 ish, but some nations seem to have it way into the future and some are like medieval so idk lol

Tiralta, Rejakhta, Amiyoka, Duerrenberg

St Leone wrote:Ive asked this multiple times and from what what ive heard there isnt really an answer to this question :P

So in my mind its like . . idk maybe 2050-2100 ish, but some nations seem to have it way into the future and some are like medieval so idk lol

fair point there. I'll take a wild guess and say 2050, since future tech is one of the tags

Tiralta, Amiyoka

Rejakhta wrote:fair point there. I'll take a wild guess and say 2050, since future tech is one of the tags

ye, i have it like a little bit in the future so I can use like futuristic-ish weapons and that kind, but still be pretty close to real time so that you could still use real life as refference and it still making some sense.

Tiralta, Amiyoka

The slope is for our mountainous terrain, and the dash is for equality.

Tiralta, Amiyoka, Antimai

St Leone wrote:Some nations seem to have it way into the future and some are like medieval so idk lol

I like to imagine Refugia as a region wherein every country is their own pocket dimension thing... So they can pick whatever they want for their nation! That's a half joke of course, but if in-lore Refugia is very advanced technologically, wouldn't it be hypothetically possible? It's cool hearing everyone's takes.

Portmanteau, Tiralta, Rejakhta, Antimai, Lycanjeskai

Amiyoka wrote:I like to imagine Refugia as a region wherein every country is their own pocket dimension thing... So they can pick whatever they want for their nation! That's a half joke of course, but if in-lore Refugia is very advanced technologically, wouldn't it be hypothetically possible? It's cool hearing everyone's takes.

Oh and maybe they all gather in one larger area for votes that being the official map

Amiyoka

Amiyoka wrote:I like to imagine Refugia as a region wherein every country is their own pocket dimension thing... So they can pick whatever they want for their nation! That's a half joke of course, but if in-lore Refugia is very advanced technologically, wouldn't it be hypothetically possible? It's cool hearing everyone's takes.

Lycanjeskai wrote:Oh and maybe they all gather in one larger area for votes that being the official map

I mean, I'd believe it

Tiralta, Amiyoka, Lycanjeskai

My economy is effed on so many levels.

St Leone, Amiyoka

Fadnesia wrote:My economy is effed on so many levels.

yeah i accidentally the organ harvesting

Amiyoka, Fadnesia

Fadnesia wrote:My economy is effed on so many levels.

The good thing about NationStates is that you can always rebound from a bad economy. I had a drop at first, but I pulled myself up! You can do it!

Araine, Portmanteau, Imperve, Tiralta, Antimai, Fadnesia

Fadnesia wrote:My economy is effed on so many levels.

lmao my economy went from being my worst stat by far to now being my best lol, and all it costed me was. . . my civil rights for a short while lmao, who needs those anyways amiright cxxxxxxxxxxxx

Araine, Imperve, Tiralta, Amiyoka, Antimai, Fadnesia

St Leone wrote:Ive asked this multiple times and from what what ive heard there isnt really an answer to this question :P

So in my mind its like . . idk maybe 2050-2100 ish, but some nations seem to have it way into the future and some are like medieval so idk lol

I like to imagine mine is current day, but a much better alternate reality version with better equality and stuff :D

Typica, Araine, Imperve, Tiralta, Amiyoka, Lycanjeskai

Neurodiversity wrote:I like to imagine mine is current day, but a much better alternate reality version with better equality and stuff :D

Tiralta is in 2050 but on an alternate timeline where we didn't mess up the planet.

Typica, Araine, St Leone, Imperve, Amiyoka

Tiralta wrote:Tiralta is in 2050 but on an alternate timeline where we didn't mess up the planet.

Estebere, for whatever reason, is in 2050 but with tech that would be for 2025.

Typica, Araine, Imperve, Tiralta, Amiyoka, Prodigal

Estebere wrote:Yes! Artichokes!

🕺🎉

Tiralta, Amiyoka

Neurodiversity wrote:I just allowed pigeon feeding and lifespan went down… a lot.

I just got that same result not even two weeks ago lol

Imperve, Tiralta, Amiyoka

Estebere wrote:Estebere, for whatever reason, is in 2050 but with tech that would be for 2025.

Amiyoka is present, but it retains and constructs mostly 1400s era architecture to preserve tradition, and because it looks nice. I like to imagine it's described as a time capsule due to the preservation of culture ^__^

Typica, Araine, Imperve, Tiralta

Tiralta wrote:Tiralta is in 2050 but on an alternate timeline where we didn't mess up the planet.

same basically the same as St. Leone then xD

just that im not exactly set, just somewhere in the near future, up to like 2100ish max lol

Tiralta, Amiyoka

St Leone wrote:Ive asked this multiple times and

Neither of us are aware of previous times that you asked. Feel free to ping us next time if we don't see it.

Lycanjeskai wrote:Ok then, thanks! Btw in the welcome telegram it said something about a robotic cube so I’m wondering how high tech refugia is in-lore

Refugia is based off of CalRef's RP of about 480,000 words, Fanciful Tales and Wild Stories of the Refuge. The RP took inspiration from real events that happened in the community and made them into a fantasy-tech world. Forum boards were D&D style buildings. It's not so much that Refugia is technologically *advanced*, but the tech was a fundimental component of the magic system, and Refuge Isle (Where Calamity Refuge was located) even existing.

Scripts were spells, and programming was the language of magic. Portals and street cars were operated by Google, and mods and admins were powerful wizards and warriors against spam bats and the mindless marauding forces of noobs. The land was the site itself, in the same vein as xkcd's map of the internet (https://xkcd.com/802/), normal ground with grass and trees, but from code. A digital mesh upon wish people could construct anything someone had the capability to make. There were many other types of magic as well, which were non-tech reliant, like BladesCraft, GeneGraft (used by the Shapers to create new life), elemental magic, and much more.

The robot that greets you in the welcome telegram is a simplebot. Simplebots are small, compact robots that service Calamity Refuge. Their shape and function vary depending on what they're programmed to do. This is anything from cleaning things up, relaying messages, or defending the territory from spam bats. It's a bit antiquated, but here's the original RP article:

https://wiki.calref.network/index.php/SimpleBots

In IRL administrative terms, simplebots were (and still are) automated accounts that do things. There is a simplebot account for the forum interfacing with the mysql database. Another for managing the routine tasks of the wiki. Another for handling the mail system for the forum. And, functionally, Nightly updating our databases and dispatches falls under that concept too. As does Dot, really.

The Star Enpire, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Portmanteau, Imperve, Tiralta, Jazur, Rejakhta, Amiyoka, Antimai, Lycanjeskai

Rejakhta is in 2055, but retained a lot of the military and architectural styles from the 1500s

Tiralta, Jazur, Amiyoka, West Islate

Refuge Isle wrote:Neither of us are aware of previous times that you asked. Feel free to ping us next time if we don't see it.

Refugia is based off of CalRef's RP of about 480,000 words, Fanciful Tales and Wild Stories of the Refuge. The RP took inspiration from real events that happened in the community and made them into a fantasy-tech world. Forum boards were D&D style buildings. It's not so much that Refugia is technologically *advanced*, but the tech was a fundimental component of the magic system, and Refuge Isle (Where Calamity Refuge was located) even existing.

Scripts were spells, and programming was the language of magic. Portals and street cars were operated by Google, and mods and admins were powerful wizards and warriors against spam bats and the mindless marauding forces of noobs. The land was the site itself, in the same vein as xkcd's map of the internet (https://xkcd.com/802/), normal ground with grass and trees, but from code. A digital mesh upon wish people could construct anything someone had the capability to make. There were many other types of magic as well, which were non-tech reliant, like BladesCraft, GeneGraft (used by the Shapers to create new life), elemental magic, and much more.

The robot that greets you in the welcome telegram is a simplebot. Simplebots are small, compact robots that service Calamity Refuge. Their shape and function vary depending on what they're programmed to do. This is anything from cleaning things up, relaying messages, or defending the territory from spam bats. It's a bit antiquated, but here's the original RP article:

https://wiki.calref.network/index.php/SimpleBots

In IRL administrative terms, simplebots were (and still are) automated accounts that do things. There is a simplebot account for the forum interfacing with the mysql database. Another for managing the routine tasks of the wiki. Another for handling the mail system for the forum. And, functionally, Nightly updating our databases and dispatches falls under that concept too. As does Dot, really.

That is insanely cool, thanks for the clarification

Cheesy Tots, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Portmanteau, Imperve, Tiralta, Jazur, Rejakhta, Amiyoka

Refuge Isle wrote:Neither of us are aware of previous times that you asked. Feel free to ping us next time if we don't see it.

Refugia is based off of CalRef's RP of about 480,000 words, Fanciful Tales and Wild Stories of the Refuge. The RP took inspiration from real events that happened in the community and made them into a fantasy-tech world. Forum boards were D&D style buildings. It's not so much that Refugia is technologically *advanced*, but the tech was a fundimental component of the magic system, and Refuge Isle (Where Calamity Refuge was located) even existing.

Scripts were spells, and programming was the language of magic. Portals and street cars were operated by Google, and mods and admins were powerful wizards and warriors against spam bats and the mindless marauding forces of noobs. The land was the site itself, in the same vein as xkcd's map of the internet (https://xkcd.com/802/), normal ground with grass and trees, but from code. A digital mesh upon wish people could construct anything someone had the capability to make. There were many other types of magic as well, which were non-tech reliant, like BladesCraft, GeneGraft (used by the Shapers to create new life), elemental magic, and much more.

The robot that greets you in the welcome telegram is a simplebot. Simplebots are small, compact robots that service Calamity Refuge. Their shape and function vary depending on what they're programmed to do. This is anything from cleaning things up, relaying messages, or defending the territory from spam bats. It's a bit antiquated, but here's the original RP article:

https://wiki.calref.network/index.php/SimpleBots

In IRL administrative terms, simplebots were (and still are) automated accounts that do things. There is a simplebot account for the forum interfacing with the mysql database. Another for managing the routine tasks of the wiki. Another for handling the mail system for the forum. And, functionally, Nightly updating our databases and dispatches falls under that concept too. As does Dot, really.

oh, pretty sure I got an answer before, but maybe i mistunderstood :P

sorry

Imperve, Jazur, Amiyoka

How do you join the different treaties? I was 'ooking through them, and I noticed that none of seem to outright say how

St Leone, Amiyoka

Jazur wrote:How do you join the different treaties? I was 'ooking through them, and I noticed that none of seem to outright say how

I would assume message the founder (or just a member maybe) from the treaty and ask to join and i guess they will tell it further to the people in charge of the map?

This is just me guessing but i would assume its along those lines. Wouldnt hurt to message the founder of the treaty regardless i guess :P

Sylh Alanor, Imperve, Tiralta, Jazur, Amiyoka

I believe if you have the prerequisites the treaty you're trying to join is looking for, then you should message the founders of the treaty

Sylh Alanor, St Leone, Imperve, Tiralta, Jazur, Amiyoka

Sylh Alanor wrote:Welcome Tenacityam, Lepron, Centre_Korea, Kazivill, Sakutumi, Demorfria_Democratic_Rebuplic, Apeers, The_Hive_Lands, Mountlynd, Landwallis, New_Mountlynd, New_Locus, Conselior, Surulgereath, and The_Cheese_Crusade to Refugia!

It's so nice to have you all here! There’s a lot of great information in the welcome telegram you’ve already received, but I have a few things that might help settling into the region easier. Refugia is part of a larger community named Calamity Refuge, or CalRef. We have a discord here: https://calref.network/chat/ and a forum here: https://calref.cc/index.php. Links for both are in the region description box at the top of this page. We host game nights and movie nights from the discord server from time to time. On the forum we have RPs and spam games (not really related to NS). If you want a place to just chill and talk to friendly people, those are great spaces for that.

If you haven't already done so, please consider joining the World Assembly and endorsing the delegate (that's me!). Click the link to learn more information on what that means and how to do it. If you join the World Assembly, you can endorse as many other nations in the region as you want, and get endorsed in return. You'll also become a Refugia Member State, which means you can vote in our elections and get a spot on our map of Refugia!

If you have any questions, please let us know. Everyone here is really friendly, except for one, because everything in life is a roll of the dice. If you prefer to read something pre-written over asking, however, check out this dispatch: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1449847

Finally, if you are an alt nation (which just means if the nation tagged in this welcome message is not your main nation on NationStates), it is required by regional law for you to report your main nation and intentions in Refugia to the Operations Councillor (that's A Million Dreams!) Thanks so much.

Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Jazur, Amiyoka, Antimai

Tiralta wrote:Tiralta is in 2050 but on an alternate timeline where we didn't mess up the planet.

I like your new flag ^^

Kinda reminds me of the one you had around june-ish with all the blue, for a second I thought you had just switched back xD

Tiralta, Amiyoka

St Leone wrote:I like your new flag ^^

Kinda reminds me of the one you had around june-ish with all the blue, for a second I thought you had just switched back xD

Yeah, it's kinda a combo of my last flag and my June flag! You have a good memory

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=tiralta/detail=factbook/id=1752532

Typica, St Leone, Jazur, Amiyoka

Tiralta wrote:Yeah, it's kinda a combo of my last flag and my June flag! You have a good memory

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=tiralta/detail=factbook/id=1752532

mhm, good memory, sure.

Not like i just thought it looked familiar and so i checked the flag history or anything haha totally not :D

(Btw you have to teach me how to make a St Leone wiki just like you have cause it looks amazing) :O

(Joking obv you dont have to xD But it does look good ^^)

Tiralta, Amiyoka

St Leone wrote:mhm, good memory, sure.

Not like i just thought it looked familiar and so i checked the flag history or anything haha totally not :D

(Btw you have to teach me how to make a St Leone wiki just like you have cause it looks amazing) :O

(Joking obv you dont have to xD But it does look good ^^)

Aw thanks! It's just liberal use of [hr] to be honest, which is my favourite thing in bbcode cause I don't have to remember to close it.

St Leone, Amiyoka

Just got an issue about humans on the dinner table. I was confused for a good minute there. I need to change my animal to crow.

Edit: Done.

Typica, Imperve, Tiralta, Amiyoka, Antimai, Neurodiversity

You’d think banning political parties would raise political freedom but ig not. Washington is crying rn

Typica, Imperve, Amiyoka, Wolfielandia, West Islate

Tiralta wrote:Tiralta is in 2050 but on an alternate timeline where we didn't mess up the planet.

Tidelia is in 2300, but it's actually in an alternate timeline where 2300 is how 2022 is right now.

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Cadenzana, Imperve, Tiralta, Amiyoka

Tidelia wrote:Tidelia is in 2300, but it's actually in an alternate timeline where 2300 is how 2022 is right now.

You're doing the people of 2300 dirty

Portmanteau, Tiralta, Tidelia

Tidelia wrote:Tidelia is in 2300, but it's actually in an alternate timeline where 2300 is how 2022 is right now.

I'll be sure to pray for them next half-moon.

Melenavenia, Tiralta, Amiyoka, Tidelia

Refuge Isle wrote:In a day or two, I'll have something out to help

As promised, that time has come.

If you guys are looking for help finding out what nations you haven't yet endorsed, I've spun up a new service to help with just that.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1793031

Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Portmanteau, Fel Vudos, Tiralta, Amiyoka, Antimai

Wow my internet and data went down at the same time and they’re through completely different companies. Never had that happen before.

My nation is just an idealized version of modern day Oregon and Washington so it’s just plain old 2022 here with the exception of dinosaurs. I brought those back before I decided what this nation was entirely going to be so I’ve just got dinosaurs wandering around.

Delta Vega Iv, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Dilwyn, Tiralta, Amiyoka, Tidelia

Refuge Isle wrote:As promised, that time has come.

If you guys are looking for help finding out what nations you haven't yet endorsed, I've spun up a new service to help with just that.

Sorry North Pacific, the cool kids are in town.

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Portmanteau, Imperve, Tiralta, Amiyoka

So, this is a random thing, but everyone saw the new recreational drug use change, right. So, more factors go into deciding that, cool. But can someone explain how subsidizing the dino-park breeders lowers recreational drug use?

Imperve, Amiyoka, Neurodiversity

Melenavenia wrote:Sorry North Pacific, the cool kids are in town.

TNP's program is currently down, which is probably not a surprise because r3n isn't an active player anymore. Neither is August. And the rest of the world needs a reliable way to get help endorsing.

Either way, we're definitely more inclined to use our services than rely on third parties.

Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Tiralta, Amiyoka, Antimai, Lycanjeskai

Helluwu :)

Typica, Tiralta, Amiyoka, Fadnesia

How do I become a member?

Tiralta

Uwuguaya wrote:How do I become a member?

hello :D

Amiyoka, Uwuguaya

Uwuguaya wrote:How do I become a member?

To become a member state you just join the world assembly and hang out here in the region for 7 days, then you get added to the list

Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Amiyoka, Uwuguaya

St Leone wrote:hello :D

Hello-owo

Amiyoka

The Pacific Northwest wrote:To become a member state you just join the world assembly and hang out here in the region for 7 days, then you get added to the list

Mhm, kay. When does WA answer usually?

Amiyoka

Uwuguaya wrote:Mhm, kay. When does WA answer usually?

you've got to confirm it by email.

Also welcome!

Typica, Araine, St Leone, Tiralta, Amiyoka, Uwuguaya

I’ve only been playing since 3 hours before the latest z day began but I’m already feeling like a part of Refugia so I just wanted to thank everyone who has helped me through the early stages of the game :)

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Portmanteau, Imperve, Tiralta, Rejakhta, Amiyoka, Wolfielandia, Uwuguaya

i am just new at here, don't know how to vote or do something further, hope i can stay at this religion longer(no means to disoffen anyone, if my language is offensive, sorry!!! and i use translator)

Sylh Alanor, Portmanteau, St Leone, Tiralta, Amiyoka, Antimai, Uwuguaya

Uwuguaya wrote:Helluwu :)

what in this painful hell is this

Amiyoka, Antimai, Uwuguaya

Morning Yall,

Also

I am now classifed as liberal democratic socialist's despite having a very HIGH economy,

I am pretty pro-environment here but my economy is REALLY good soo no idea what happened

Typica, Amiyoka

We have 666 nations in refugia!

Typica, Portmanteau, Womentopia, Rejakhta, Amiyoka, Neurodiversity

Chr Carlavikay wrote:Morning Yall,

Also

I am now classifed as liberal democratic socialist's despite having a very HIGH economy,

I am pretty pro-environment here but my economy is REALLY good soo no idea what happened

This is something that is a little quirk of NS. The 3 stats at the top of your nation page and when you click on your trend tab are Civil Rights, Political Freedom and Economy. However, your classification is based on your Civil Rights, Political Freedom and Economic Freedom. You have a high economy, but low economic freedom, so you're a Liberal Democratic Socialist nation.

Typica, Araine, Portmanteau, Imperve, Amiyoka

Tiralta wrote:This is something that is a little quirk of NS. The 3 stats at the top of your nation page and when you click on your trend tab are Civil Rights, Political Freedom and Economy. However, your classification is based on your Civil Rights, Political Freedom and Economic Freedom. You have a high economy, but low economic freedom, so you're a Liberal Democratic Socialist nation.

Oh, Fair

Thanks!

Typica, Tiralta, Amiyoka

The Pacific Northwest wrote:Wow my internet and data went down at the same time and they’re through completely different companies. Never had that happen before.

My nation is just an idealized version of modern day Oregon and Washington so it’s just plain old 2022 here with the exception of dinosaurs. I brought those back before I decided what this nation was entirely going to be so I’ve just got dinosaurs wandering around.

I support this. I'm personally pro-dinosaur

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Portmanteau, Imperve, Tiralta, Amiyoka

Womentopia wrote:i am just new at here, don't know how to vote or do something further, hope i can stay at this religion longer(no means to disoffen anyone, if my language is offensive, sorry!!! and i use translator)

Welcome to the region! Your language isn't at all offensive, don't worry.

Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Amiyoka

Dilwyn wrote:But can someone explain how subsidizing the dino-park breeders lowers recreational drug use?

Um… people don’t need to take drugs to see dinosaurs anymore?

In other news, I got duped by confusing wording and now I don’t hold democratic elections anymore.

Typica, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Amiyoka

Refuge Isle wrote:TNP's program is currently down, which is probably not a surprise because r3n isn't an active player anymore. Neither is August. And the rest of the world needs a reliable way to get help endorsing.

Nice to have a more reliable alternative, thanks for putting that together. Next stop - Texas's suite of tools! (actually, as I write that joke, I think it would be pretty great to have more reliable versions of those, too)

Tidelia wrote:I support this. I'm personally pro-dinosaur

I would like to step into the light of the day as also being pro-dinosaur.

Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Amiyoka, Tidelia, Antimai, Quelidriquaqnas

Portmanteau wrote:Nice to have a more reliable alternative, thanks for putting that together. Next stop - Texas's suite of tools! (actually, as I write that joke, I think it would be pretty great to have more reliable versions of those, too)

I would like to step into the light of the day as also being pro-dinosaur.

Same

Sylh Alanor, Portmanteau, Amiyoka, Antimai

very close to 700 pages.. exciting! also love the new tart alternative :)

Sylh Alanor, Araine, Liphia, Tiralta, Huliunov, Amiyoka, Uwuguaya

Lycanjeskai wrote:We have 666 nations in refugia!

That was me!

Tiralta, Huliunov, Amiyoka

Dilwyn wrote:So, this is a random thing, but everyone saw the new recreational drug use change, right. So, more factors go into deciding that, cool. But can someone explain how subsidizing the dino-park breeders lowers recreational drug use?

You ain't seen nothing yet. Me banning circumsision made my arms manufacturing economy jump by 75%!

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Imperve, Huliunov, Amiyoka, Antimai, New Mountlynd, Uwuguaya

Landwallis wrote:You ain't seen nothing yet. Me banning circumsision made my arms manufacturing economy jump by 75%!

lol

Amiyoka, Tropifia, Landwallis, Uwuguaya

Landwallis wrote:You ain't seen nothing yet. Me banning circumsision made my arms manufacturing economy jump by 75%!

it is truly crazy how that can happen

Typica, Amiyoka, Landwallis, Uwuguaya

Tropifia wrote:it is truly crazy how that can happen

Yes it also made recreational drug use go up about 25% and communications economy go down 5%

Huliunov, Amiyoka, Tropifia, Uwuguaya

Landwallis wrote:Yes it also made recreational drug use go up about 25% and communications economy go down 5%

oh wow

Amiyoka, Tropifia, New Mountlynd, Uwuguaya

Hello all nations of Refugia!!

New Mountlynd is the worst.

(This is a joke, New Mountlynd is my alt that i created for history :) )

Tiralta, Amiyoka, Neurodiversity, Uwuguaya

Mountlynd wrote:Hello all nations of Refugia!!

New Mountlynd is the worst.

(This is a joke, New Mountlynd is my alt that i created for history :) )

whatever you want do do champ

Amiyoka

Tidelia wrote:I support this. I'm personally pro-dinosaur

DUDE i want dinosaurs! Was it an event or something, or can I still get them???

Tiralta, Amiyoka, Mountlynd

New Mountlynd wrote:DUDE i want dinosaurs! Was it an event or something, or can I still get them???

It's an issue that will just pop up...who knows when

Delta Vega Iv, Tiralta, Amiyoka, Mountlynd, New Mountlynd, Uwuguaya

Jurassic park looks over all our shoulders

Typica, Tiralta, Amiyoka, Uwuguaya

Landwallis wrote:what in this painful hell is this

It's not Hell, it's Sushi Rice.

This joke was brought to you by the Ministry of Obscure References' Extremely Obscure References Branch.

The Star Enpire, Tiralta, Amiyoka, Neurodiversity, Uwuguaya

Estebere wrote:It's not Hell, it's Sushi Rice.

This joke was brought to you by the Ministry of Obscure References' Extremely Obscure References Branch.

MORE ORB

The Star Enpire, Amiyoka, Estebere, Antimai

Tiralta wrote:MORE ORB

OH SUSHI RICE NO I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT

That is pretty funny that it has a good acronym though.

Better than the MMAFWB or the MFARB.

Edit: On the topic of MOREORB, did anyone else get feel as if the color scheming of the half of the video dedicated to the new 'Everyday Clutter' kit that just came out for the Sims 4 might have reminded them of Kazuha, a character from Genshin Impact, or is that too specific?

Brought to you by the Ministry of Obscure Referenses' Extremely Obscure References Branch.

Tiralta, Amiyoka, Neurodiversity

May I present to you all!

Inspired by the corporate war (and project wingman, and Rejakhta's own corpo war 15 years ago*)

Aces Of Refugia: The Corporate War: Prologue

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1793601

Options:

WSO (extra side character)

no WSO (no extra side character)

[sub]*The war 15 years ago[/sub]

Tovenia, Portmanteau, St Leone, Jazur, Rejakhta, Amiyoka, Antimai, Uwuguaya

Landwallis wrote:what in this painful hell is this

Uwu-What do you mean?-uwu

Typica, Amiyoka

Mountlynd wrote:Hello all nations of Refugia!!

New Mountlynd is the worst.

(This is a joke, New Mountlynd is my alt that i created for history :) )

Hello :3

Amiyoka, Mountlynd

HOLY (f triple dash word) MY RETAIL JUST JUMPED $14,390% FROM EXPEDITING A DRUGxz

Amiyoka, Uwuguaya

Waywards Edge wrote:May I present to you all!

Inspired by the corporate war (and project wingman, and Rejakhta's own corpo war 15 years ago*)

Aces Of Refugia: The Corporate War: Prologue

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1793601

Options:

WSO (extra side character)

no WSO (no extra side character)

[sub]*The war 15 years ago[/sub]

if you understood the joke i'm very happy

[sub]*The war 15 years ago[/sub]

Amiyoka

I'll make a flag for you guys for free just telegram me! I'm pretty good at making them.

Typica, Portmanteau, Amiyoka, Uwuguaya

Landwallis wrote:I'll make a flag for you guys for free just telegram me! I'm pretty good at making them.

honestly same id love to make some flags too :D

(Also im sorry Waywards Edge, i might have gotten a little busy with school so i havent made any more flags for you yet sorry) :/

Portmanteau, Tiralta, Waywards Edge, Amiyoka, Uwuguaya

St Leone wrote:honestly same id love to make some flags too :D

(Also im sorry Waywards Edge, i might have gotten a little busy with school so i havent made any more flags for you yet sorry) :/

nah is chill i also have school so i completely understand

St Leone, Tiralta, Amiyoka

Landwallis wrote:I'll make a flag for you guys for free just telegram me! I'm pretty good at making them.

I’ll take you by your word then :3

Amiyoka

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Written by Refuge Isle.