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Ban Oldern wrote:Wait, what if when they fall to Earth it just makes Earth an animal and we're just all eternally screwed over.

We probably need to stop giving her Erminess ideas, I think she's been listening this whole time by how the voices keep getting louder...

What kind of animal do you think the earth would be? Would it be a land creature or a sea creature?

DonÂ’t worry, if her Erminess actually tries to carry out these ideas, we here in the Triquetra should be able to shoot them downÂ

Hopefully.

Portmanteau, The Blue Fire

Delta Vega Iv wrote:2) While this region is indeed currently being raided, this is more because they're allowing it versus it being anything beyond their control. If you need proof of this, look no further than the fact that the founder account is still active daily...and if there's anything that's guaranteed, it's that the founder has essentially infinite banning power regardless of influence, which is why you'll always hear that raids are impossible when a region has an active founder.

This is factually incorrect, for what it's worth. The founder doesn't have any powers when the region is a frontier, as you can see for yourself and compare with our own. That is the trade-off for frontiers giving a region free nation spawns; the region itself is at a greater risk for losing control.

That said, the invasion is indeed somewhat being allowed to happen. When the region was raided, about half of us in defender leadership were pretty indifferent because Alger is a conservative ass. The other half were interested in liberating it anyway, but on contacting Alger he declined intervention out of some kind of "commitment to the bit" or something. So that left the debate moot, and defenders haven't and likely won't intervene, regardless of what happens.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Liphia, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, Morrigan, The Blue Fire, Pantumaca

Estebere wrote:What kind of animal do you think the earth would be? Would it be a land creature or a sea creature?

I'd put my bets on some sort of boreal woodland predator. A bear or a wolf, for example. Needs to be strong enough to keep the Moon in check and not be too hostile to the sun.

If it's not that then I won't have any bets to pay anyway because if it's not one of those there's a high probability everyone dies.

Estebere wrote:DonÂ’t worry, if her Erminess actually tries to carry out these ideas, we here in the Triquetra should be able to shoot them downÂ

Hopefully.

I admire your confidence to shoot down the moon, but unfortunately to do any damage to a lunar ferret, I'd assume you would need to have the same impact force of a crater, which 100 quadrillion tons of TNT (.1 EXAtons of TNT). So, as long as you don't plan to shoot something smaller in mass than an average house, it's literally impossible to do anything. No, seriously, anything below 20,526,482,112 pounds would need to go over the speed of light to even cause a crater and thus a little bit of damage. A house is about a 60,000th of that.

I admire your dedication but it just ain't gonna happen.

Edit: did the math wrong because I thought a factoid on a NASA website for the energy of a crater was for the average crater when it was in fact from Chicxulub, which is WAYY too big. Still, though, point stands.

Average (complex) crater size is 35.897 km, which means the energy required to make an average crater is 46 billion tons of TNT, or 46 Gigatons. Not as terrifying as 100 petatons, but still massive. The amount of joules of energy you'd need in that case is approximately 193 quintillion joules.

To get something to do that much damage at the speed of light, you'd need around 10,000 pounds. However, even at the barely achievable speed of Mach 10, you would need 72 trillion pounds.

Also, keep in mind that the moon is way, way bigger than any of this stuff. You're throwing pebbles at a skyscraper here, it's not going to do anything. To do a decent amount of deterrent damage to her Erminess you'd need to launch [I]a lot[/I] at it [I]really fast[/I].

You ain't gonna do crap.

Portmanteau, The Blue Fire

Ban Oldern wrote:

I admire your confidence to shoot down the moon, but unfortunately to do any damage to a lunar ferret, I'd assume you would need to have the same impact force of a crater, which 100 quadrillion tons of TNT (.1 EXAtons of TNT). So, as long as you don't plan to shoot something smaller in mass than an average house, it's literally impossible to do anything. No, seriously, anything below 20,526,482,112 pounds would need to go over the speed of light to even cause a crater and thus a little bit of damage. A house is about a 60,000th of that.

Edit: did the math wrong because I thought a factoid on a NASA website for the energy of a crater was for the average crater when it was in fact from Chicxulub, which is WAYY too big. Still, though, point stands.

Average (complex) crater size is 35.897 km, which means the energy required to make an average crater is 46 billion tons of TNT, or 46 Gigatons. Not as terrifying as 100 petatons, but still massive. The amount of joules of energy you'd need in that case is approximately 193 quintillion joules.

To get something to do that much damage at the speed of light, you'd need around 10,000 pounds. However, even at the barely achievable speed of Mach 10, you would need 72 trillion pounds.

Also, keep in mind that the moon is way, way bigger than any of this stuff. You're throwing pebbles at a skyscraper here, it's not going to do anything. To do a decent amount of deterrent damage to her Erminess you'd need to launch [I]a lot[/I] at it [I]really fast[/I].

so what you're saying is that we have to build extremely powerful railguns that deliver car-sized packets of antimatter

...

you aren't gonna believe what i started building yesterday

Portmanteau

Ban Oldern wrote:snip

Look: I had a bunch of really, really good stuff written about how I could kill it. I accidentally cut it all because IÂ’m on an iPad. Essentially, we could, theoretically, launch a bunch of explosives into the stoatÂ’s mouth while it is open(likely to bite the bird) in order to damage it that way without having to contend with itÂ’s hide, because unlike the moon it is alive. Or, I think it would be possible to drop a lot of stuff on it using our glyph things. So what do you think?

Portmanteau, The Blue Fire

Hi Refuge Isle and indeed everyone else, I would like to be Councillor of Culture next term again and here is what I plan to do if I am:

Refugia's 5th birthday is coming up at the end of January and I plan to work with the FA Councillor to have a week long celebration with events for both Refugi and our embassy friends on Discord and the RMB.

I plan to run another Refugi Awards, giving folks the opportunity to nominate and recognise each other for a variety of qualities.

Finally, I plan to write a sort of How Does? Refugia, explaining all the ways that Member States can get involved in the region, drawing on experiences and anecdotes from current and former folks who have contributed to the way that things are today, and encouraging and empowering those who are newer to get involved in any way they would like!

I am happy to talk about these in more detail if anyone is interested!

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Liphia, Portmanteau, Jazur, Morrigan, The Blue Fire, Daymo, Ban Oldern

Refuge Isle wrote:When the region was raided, about half of us in defender leadership were pretty indifferent because Alger is a conservative ass. The other half were interested in liberating it anyway, but on contacting Alger he declined intervention out of some kind of "commitment to the bit" or something. So that left the debate moot, and defenders haven't and likely won't intervene, regardless of what happens.
ItÂ’s gotten to the point where half the time I can no longer tell whoÂ’s serious and who isnÂ’t on the internet anymore.

Is Alger actually super conservative, or is it totally a bit? I assumed it was all a joke but I also havenÂ’t interacted with them at all, just seen a lot of forum posts obviously meant to be written in the same style as TrumpÂ’s tweets.

But now that I think about it, from all the crazy positions IÂ’ve seen people legitimately hold (especially in the past few years), it is entirely possible that Alger actually holds those beliefs, and now I legitimately donÂ’t know if Alger is even slightly serious.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Portmanteau, Jazur, The Blue Fire

The Pacific Northwest wrote:ItÂ’s gotten to the point where half the time I can no longer tell whoÂ’s serious and who isnÂ’t on the internet anymore.

Is Alger actually super conservative, or is it totally a bit? I assumed it was all a joke but I also havenÂ’t interacted with them at all, just seen a lot of forum posts obviously meant to be written in the same style as TrumpÂ’s tweets.

But now that I think about it, from all the crazy positions IÂ’ve seen people legitimately hold (especially in the past few years), it is entirely possible that Alger actually holds those beliefs, and now I legitimately donÂ’t know if Alger is even slightly serious.

There comes a point when, if someone is never seen "out of character", you have to start assuming it might not be a character. Alger joined our chat several times knowing we don't do NSGP or NS-related IC stuff, and acted no differently to how he does anywhere else, even when confronted.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire, Daymo

Read this funny little dispatch pinned to the region (The Grand Patriot Empire Of Algerheaven) that the founder of Algerheaven is holed up in right now: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1864919

There are some other "funny" dispatches too.

Typica, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire, Pantumaca

The Blue Fire wrote:so what you're saying is that we have to build extremely powerful railguns that deliver car-sized packets of antimatter

...

you aren't gonna believe what i started building yesterday

antimatter car vs. the unmatched power of telepathic moon stoat

Estebere wrote:Look: I had a bunch of really, really good stuff written about how I could kill it. I accidentally cut it all because IÂ’m on an iPad. Essentially, we could, theoretically, launch a bunch of explosives into the stoatÂ’s mouth while it is open(likely to bite the bird) in order to damage it that way without having to contend with itÂ’s hide, because unlike the moon it is alive. Or, I think it would be possible to drop a lot of stuff on it using our glyph things. So what do you think?

rip all the stuff :(

I think launching explosives at its mouth would probably be the best option. The whole face area is a weak spot so if we throw explosives at it we might have a better chance.

We might have to worry about Her Erminess turning our bombs into woodpeckers tho, cuz if she can turn asteroids into mountain goats she can most definitely turn our bombs into whatever she wants to and I think she's planning on making them woodpeckers.

Delta Vega Iv, Portmanteau, The Blue Fire, Foreigna

Ban Oldern wrote:me

Araine wrote:Me!

ayyyy!

Bibliotheca wrote:Not quite, but I am a term I invented called a fuzzy. Fuzzies are people who enjoy wearing animal pajamas.

I like that lmao

Talvezout wrote:me

(there are many of us)

i even got a furry version of my nation Anthrovezia

oooh OwO

Jazur wrote:mee! i just think anthropomorphic animals (especia'y rabbits) are neat

same m8, I especially like the tech-y species (protogens, synths, mantled beasts, stuff like that)

Estebere wrote:Wait... what if we've been transformed into an animal? Does that make us furries?

are you anthropomorphic is the question.

Melenavenia wrote:Oui... I have a bunny fursona.

lemme try and guess the color, blue?

Melenavenia wrote:We are neat. 😎

indeed we are ⍢

Bejeweled Potatoes wrote:kinda irrelevant but i got second place in an art competition to someone who created a fursuit and walked around in it on the night

wooow, what was the fursuit?

Tay-Mania wrote:THERE ARE FURRIES IN REFUGIA???

YOU CANNOT ESCAPES OUR UWUS AND OWOS HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEEEE

Typica, Melenavenia, Jazur, Morrigan, The Blue Fire, Boxiia

Silliy wrote:YOU CANNOT ESCAPES OUR UWUS AND OWOS HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEEEE

This is an uwu and owo free message board. Violators will be prosecuted for crimes against humanity.

Jazur, Morrigan, The Blue Fire

I'm making a W.A Account, and am leaving the W.A on my Main account

Delta Vega Iv

Typica wrote:This is an uwu and owo free message board. Violators will be prosecuted for crimes against humanity.

THEY CAN'T GET US ALL, BOYS! RUSH THE GATES!!!!

Silliy wrote:YOU CANNOT ESCAPES OUR UWUS AND OWOS HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEEEE

yes

Typica, The Blue Fire

Silliy wrote:lemme try and guess the color, blue?

White with orange ears and "hair" and pink pawpads and nose with blue eyes.

Typica, Araine, Tiralta, The Blue Fire

Estebere wrote:a whole clan of them hiding close to the town, having arrived at the town after their migration due to the fact that the town where they had roosted for generations had been occupied

...

P.S. Now that I think about it, would it be fine with ya'll if I recommended something like we're discussing to my DnD group for a future campaign?

Love the migration idea. That's very good. The more bird-like behaviors they display, the better.

And as far as I'm concerned, literally everything in the world is fair game for a DnD campaign :P

P.S. I believe the earth would be a whale. Given the planet is primarily water. And it balances well with the moon being associated with a land animal, and the sun being associated with a flying animal. I'm open to other sea creatures, though...just my own mammalian-bias made me favor the whale. Plus their associations with nurturing and community.

Tiralta, The Blue Fire

Congratulations to the winners of this year's Green Week - Toothbrush and South Frankston! Please telegram me with your choice of card from this collection for your prize: https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/collection=69297

You can see all of the top 20 results in the dispatch below!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1951978

The Star Enpire, Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Liphia, Jazur, The Blue Fire, Toothbrush

Typica wrote:This is an uwu and owo free message board. Violators will be prosecuted for crimes against humanity.

2 bad so sad

UwU

Chacapoya, Araine, Tiralta, The Blue Fire

:3

Chacapoya, Typica, Tiralta, The Blue Fire, Silliy

Portmanteau wrote:P.S. I believe the earth would be a whale. Given the planet is primarily water. And it balances well with the moon being associated with a land animal, and the sun being associated with a flying animal. I'm open to other sea creatures, though...just my own mammalian-bias made me favor the whale. Plus their associations with nurturing and community.

If we're going for nurturing and community, we can go for a pelican, especially for their bestiary depictions of self-wounding to feed children, because it sure as hell is doing that atm

The Blue Fire

Refuge Isle wrote:This is factually incorrect, for what it's worth. The founder doesn't have any powers when the region is a frontier, as you can see for yourself and compare with our own. That is the trade-off for frontiers giving a region free nation spawns; the region itself is at a greater risk for losing control.

That said, the invasion is indeed somewhat being allowed to happen. When the region was raided, about half of us in defender leadership were pretty indifferent because Alger is a conservative ass. The other half were interested in liberating it anyway, but on contacting Alger he declined intervention out of some kind of "commitment to the bit" or something. So that left the debate moot, and defenders haven't and likely won't intervene, regardless of what happens.

Thank you for the correction and added information.

Chacapoya, Typica, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Bibliotheca wrote::3

:3

Chacapoya, Typica, Tiralta, The Blue Fire

Somebody quote The Grand Duchy of Ban Oldern and keep this chain going!

I just unlocked a capital city, and I named it Simulta after the Latin Simultas, which means togetherness. I hope my capital will bring Bibliotheca (and some tourists, to help my struggling economy) together for many years to come!

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Araine, Tiralta, The Blue Fire

I have a small strip of land on my southern edge that's unclaimed, it's kinda rubble but it could be turned into an massive trading centre * even though with all the mines and bombs...* at least you'll have some of the leftover missiles!

Crienia wrote:I have a small strip of land on my southern edge that's unclaimed, it's kinda rubble but it could be turned into an massive trading centre * even though with all the mines and bombs...* at least you'll have some of the leftover missiles!

Oh gosh Darkik just bombed my capital

Silliy wrote:

YOU CANNOT ESCAPES OUR UWUS AND OWOS HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEEEE

the uwu and owo is reserved for hardened criminals who have served years in prison

Delta Vega Iv, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire, Foreigna

Ban Oldern wrote::3

:3

Typica, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire, Silliy

Portmanteau wrote:Love the migration idea. That's very good. The more bird-like behaviors they display, the better.

And as far as I'm concerned, literally everything in the world is fair game for a DnD campaign :P

P.S. I believe the earth would be a whale. Given the planet is primarily water. And it balances well with the moon being associated with a land animal, and the sun being associated with a flying animal. I'm open to other sea creatures, though...just my own mammalian-bias made me favor the whale. Plus their associations with nurturing and community.

HmmÂ… now that I think about it, what if the bird people are actually more akin to something like nomads? For example, they would normally stay in a town for a little while before leaving, exceptions given for special situations such as a werewar.

I totally agree with you on the earth being a whale. First off, not only does it complete the land-sky-sea Triquetra, but it also completes the grass-fire-water Pokèmon starter Triquetra. And, of course, whales are also big, so it can hold us all. Also, whales are cool.

Ban Oldern wrote:antimatter car vs. the unmatched power of telepathic moon stoat

rip all the stuff :(

I think launching explosives at its mouth would probably be the best option. The whole face area is a weak spot so if we throw explosives at it we might have a better chance.

We might have to worry about Her Erminess turning our bombs into woodpeckers tho, cuz if she can turn asteroids into mountain goats she can most definitely turn our bombs into whatever she wants to and I think she's planning on making them woodpeckers.

HmÂ… what if we combined these ideas? We could shoot a few tons of explosives at the stoatÂ’s head to distract it, however we donÂ’t tell the people using the railguns this as to defend against the telepathy. If weÂ’re lucky the stoat might even get tunnel vision and mind control the railgun operators and focus on them. Then we have someone a few miles away to use our travel runes in order to teleport the antimatter car above the stoat to hit it and hopefully create enough energy to kill it sufficiently. And, if weÂ’re careful, we might even not kill the sun bird!

Portmanteau, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Tay-Mania wrote::3

:3

Typica, Tiralta, The Blue Fire, Ban Oldern

Sempera wrote::3

:3

Typica, Tiralta, Sempera, Ban Oldern

I've seen defenders referred to as the "deep state" because of Algerheaven's predicament.

The DEEP STATE is AMONG US 👀👀👀

Delta Vega Iv, Tiralta, Jazur, Daymo, Pantumaca

Melenavenia wrote:I've seen defenders referred to as the "deep state" because of Algerheaven's predicament.

The DEEP STATE is AMONG US 👀👀👀

I'm the DEEP STATE

Big Sister From Foreigna

Delta Vega Iv, Melenavenia, Tiralta, Jazur

Post self-deleted by Istastioner.

The Blue Fire wrote::3

:3

Typica, Tiralta, Sempera, The Blue Fire

Melenavenia wrote:I've seen defenders referred to as the "deep state" because of Algerheaven's predicament.

The DEEP STATE is AMONG US 👀👀👀

nah bro we the shallow state frfr

Szalyland wrote::3

:3

Tay-Mania wrote:the uwu and owo is reserved for hardened criminals who have served years in prison

iwi

[spoiler=meaning of above]:( sad[/spoiler]

Typica, Melenavenia, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Foreigna wrote:I'm the DEEP STATE

Big Sister From Foreigna

I'm the SHALLOW STATE

Tiny Nephew (son of Small Brother)

from Delta Vega IV

Melenavenia, The Blue Fire, Pantumaca

Delta Vega Iv wrote:I'm the SHALLOW STATE

Tiny Nephew (son of Small Brother)

from Delta Vega IV

I'm the SILLY STATE

Stupid Cousin (related to Class Clown)

from Silliy

Delta Vega Iv, Melenavenia, The Blue Fire, Pantumaca

Tay-Mania wrote:the uwu and owo is reserved for hardened criminals who have served years in prison

UwU

[spoiler=this is the moment of all time]

Tay-Mania wrote::3

:3[/spoiler]

Typica, Melenavenia, Portmanteau, Tiralta, The Blue Fire

A reminder that the wikitionary page of "uwu" on'y contains an Eng'ish and a Pol'ish pronunciation. Together, we can c'arify the pronunciation of "uwu" in every 'exicon!

Typica, Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Sempera, The Blue Fire, Silliy, Pantumaca

Jazur wrote:A reminder that the wikitionary page of "uwu" on'y contains an Eng'ish and a Pol'ish pronunciation. Together, we can c'arify the pronunciation of "uwu" in every 'exicon!

Error 404: Too many apostrophes broke brain....

But I will help, starting with the Spanish pronunciation: oo doh-bleh beh oo.

OO - U

doh-bleh beh - w

I don't know how to write in proper Pronunciation format, so correct this to fit whatever standards there are.

Portmanteau, The Blue Fire, Pantumaca

Jazur wrote:A reminder that the wikitionary page of "uwu" on'y contains an Eng'ish and a Pol'ish pronunciation. Together, we can c'arify the pronunciation of "uwu" in every 'exicon!

W doesn't exist in Irish so it would just give way for the English pronunciation of that letter. But 'u' without a fada is pronounced uh. So uhwuh. To make it oowoo it'd have to be 'úwú'

Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Portmanteau, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Jazur wrote:A reminder that the wikitionary page of "uwu" on'y contains an Eng'ish and a Pol'ish pronunciation. Together, we can c'arify the pronunciation of "uwu" in every 'exicon!

i'm not even close to fluent or even sem-fluent in japanese, but i have very basic familiarity so i guess i'll talk about it

unfortunately, japanese doesn't have a character for "wu" (or just "w") so i believe the closest we can get in pure japanese is うう, or uu. fortunately, in japanese, "u" is pronounced in the same way as or at least extremely similarly to the "u" from uwu, so it does sound vaguely recognizable.

(if i'm wrong about any of this, please correct me)

Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur

Silliy wrote:I'm the SILLY STATE

Stupid Cousin (related to Class Clown)

from Silliy

cool

Estebere wrote:HmmÂ… now that I think about it, what if the bird people are actually more akin to something like nomads? For example, they would normally stay in a town for a little while before leaving, exceptions given for special situations such as a werewar.

Definitely trust your instincts. Great improvement. Awhile back, I dove into the specifics of seabird migrations for my nation, and there's a lot of good stuff there to flesh out a culture. You could actually keep both of your ideas, if you wanted. They keep to their seasonal nomadic migrations (transhumance), but also something is wrong and forcing them out of their traditional pattern. A lot of seabirds are currently experiencing these sorts of alterations, due to things like light pollution and urbanization, and of course standard pollution, the loss of habitats along their intricate network of stop-over sites, but also more subtle changes having to do with climate change. You could easily have a fantasy-equivalent to this, whether it's just bog-standard deforestation, or the use of certain types of magic messing with their detection of flight paths or the star patterns or whatnot.

Jazur wrote:A reminder that the wikitionary page of "uwu" on'y contains an Eng'ish and a Pol'ish pronunciation. Together, we can c'arify the pronunciation of "uwu" in every 'exicon!

This is such important work. I commend everyone involved.

Jazur, The Blue Fire

New poll!

https://www.nationstates.net/region=refugia#poll

Chacapoya, Araine, The Pacific Northwest, Jazur

Regarding the current SC vote, I think anyone who has ever worked in retail or another job where they were forced to listen to the same 7 or 8 Christmas songs from Halloween to New YearÂ’s probably knows how I feel about it lol.

Christmas music is my absolute least favorite genre now because of that. So IÂ’m choosing to vote against the intrusion of Christmas music into the month of November.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Hasunosora, Pantumaca

EVERYONE!

uwu and owo have actual meanings in some languages (just in Australian languages, "water" and "arm" respectively)

we must loan these words in so we can say "I spilled uwu on my owo :("

Tiralta, Jazur, Morrigan, The Blue Fire, Pantumaca

Sorry for the original version of my nation disappearing! Didn't intend that.

Tiralta

IÂ’m so against the SC at vote.

A, itÂ’s not even December.

B, I find the increasing push to have Christian holidays be seen as secular and therefore okay to be the only ones publicly celebrated perturbing. It is still a holiday with a significant religious meaning, and to push it as a default ‘Winter Holiday’ choice can be very alienating to those who don’t follow that religion. Why should they have to join in the festivities of a religion they are not a part of, or even one that has actively discriminated against them? My stance is that religion is personal, and should remain as such.

Against.

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, Morrigan, The Blue Fire, Hasunosora, Pantumaca

Chacapoya wrote:IÂ’m so against the SC at vote.

A, itÂ’s not even December.

B, I find the increasing push to have Christian holidays be seen as secular and therefore okay to be the only ones publicly celebrated perturbing. It is still a holiday with a significant religious meaning, and to push it as a default ‘Winter Holiday’ choice can be very alienating to those who don’t follow that religion. Why should they have to join in the festivities of a religion they are not a part of, or even one that has actively discriminated against them? My stance is that religion is personal, and should remain as such.

Against.

Very fair. However, for B, if we were to coalesce all the other holidays that happen around that time into one holiday season I think that would be okay. As it stands right now though, Christmas is the main holiday in the "winter holidays" section in basically every country that has a big "Winter Festivities" season, and so dominates. If people want to celebrate winter holidays, that's fine, but trying to get everyone to celebrate Christmas is extremely discriminatory.

Also, I don't even work in retail and I still feel like the song in parody should never have been written, much less so spread so much as it was, so imagine how somebody who actually hears this song on loop for 2 or 3 months out of the year at a job they probably hate thinks about it.

Chacapoya, Typica, The Blue Fire

Hello Refugia and Refuge Isle! I'm here to run for the position of Councillor of Operations!

I've been vibing in Refugia since the start of the year - you may remember The Badger in BOAT - and it's a Cool and Fun place that I wanna contribute to!

So, Ops has two big areas of responsibility: NS events and the security of Refugia. The next Big NS Event is going to be the next N-Day at the end of next February, which would be right at the end of my term depending on the date. Which is a shame, cause I've had a lot of fun doing events with Refugia and want to do more :P I absolutely love N-Day and was one of the most active members of this year's Starlight Brigade. I'll work this year to get us higher than 5th >:)

Then there's the security aspect. With events, I've got Refugia-based experience - here, not so much, so I'm gonna have to quote outside stuff, sorry :P I've previously been a moderator in TSP and delegate of TRR, which requires the monitoring of the community for threats and people being Generally Obnoxious. It'll be nice being able to actually eject them! I'm also experienced in R/D and keep up with gameplay, which should help in maintaining our security. I'll keep up the list of sleepers and regularly try and sniff out unregistered ones :3

I think that's all - I look forward to getting to work for Refugia if you'll have me!

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Liphia, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire, Pantumaca

the current security council vote is iconic

I personally voted against this Christmas themed policy because people should be allowed to be nice on whatever Winter holiday they celebrate, if any. Due to the varying lengths, countries that celebrate shorter holidays can make up the difference after New Year's, along with those who don't celebrate any Winter holidays. Sure, it's a lot more complex, but I think it's the best way we can spread a little holiday cheer equally among everybody. Who's with me, or has a simpler but similar solution? Also, if anybody is voting for the proposal, you may present your side of the issue as long as you can go about it in a respectful manner. I will try to hold myself to that same standard as well.

Edit: I think we should just be nice to each other year round and that The World Assembly should be focused on policies that make things better all of the hundreds of days in a year instead of just one that's only special to certain people.

Chacapoya, Typica, Jazur, Pantumaca

Tay-Mania wrote:the current security council vote is iconic

it's fire, so we should burn it

Typica, The Blue Fire, Silliy, Pantumaca

Chacapoya wrote:IÂ’m so against the SC at vote.

A, itÂ’s not even December.

B, I find the increasing push to have Christian holidays be seen as secular and therefore okay to be the only ones publicly celebrated perturbing. It is still a holiday with a significant religious meaning, and to push it as a default ‘Winter Holiday’ choice can be very alienating to those who don’t follow that religion. Why should they have to join in the festivities of a religion they are not a part of, or even one that has actively discriminated against them? My stance is that religion is personal, and should remain as such.

Against.

ThatÂ’s another reason. I voted against purely because of my personal dislike for Christmas music at first (I am currently of the opinion that Christmas music should be reserved for the week of Christmas) but having had more time to think about it I completely agree with your second point as well.

My family isnÂ’t religious but we still have holiday get togethers because of tradition, food being on sale, and it being one of the only reliable times most of us have off work. So we have what appears to be a typical holiday celebration except religion plays no part in it.

Probably why I didnÂ’t really think about it, since my non religious family still gets together on Christmas despite not being Christian and it always has. ItÂ’s basically just one of few good opportunities for us to spend time together and have food we only eat once a year, but we still refer to it as Christmas because itÂ’s usually on Christmas, and when I hear the word, I associate it with my familyÂ’s brand of celebration instead of it being a Christian holiday.

Not everyone is going to have that experience though, particularly those who are members of different religions and celebrate their own holiday instead. Christmas really shouldnÂ’t be pushed as the default holiday but people do it anyway and I guess by participating in secular family gatherings and not really thinking about it IÂ’m part of the problem.

Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, Morrigan, The Blue Fire, Pantumaca

If you haven't joined the Discord I hope to convince you to do so with one simple message:

🇦🇱

Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, Morrigan

Dear people of Refugia! (And hello Refuge Isle)

I, Grandee Adeleine av Leone, would like to inform you all about my intention to run for the position of "Councillor of Cartography".

It has been a while since i've been active here on NationStates,

but I have returned to govern my great nation once more, and with that, make even more lore and maps \o/

I know quite a few here who can vouch for my map-making skills ^^

I also have some experience within administrative roles, and so with both of these I do think I would be a great fit for the role and title of Councillor of Cartography.

Thank you

-Grandee Adeleine av Leone

Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Liphia, Aephony, Tiralta, Jazur, Morrigan, The Blue Fire, Pantumaca, Sylvatica

Thanks for the candidacies. I've updated the current ballot to reflect the ones I've received.

Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Tiralta

Melenavenia wrote:🇦🇱

Fun Fact: When A'ah created the world he gave it all to Albania but Albania is nice country so they 'et the other countries exist /j

Typica, Melenavenia, Tiralta, The Blue Fire

what is an inoffensive centrist democracy is it bad

Tay-Mania wrote:what is an inoffensive centrist democracy is it bad

It is bad in that centrists are bad. In classification terms, it is middling in everything. More info here.

Typica, Tiralta, Jazur

Refuge Isle wrote:It is bad in that centrists are bad. In classification terms, it is middling in everything. More info here.

okay i apparently sacrificed some civil rights for extra economic freedom. don't think it's worth it tbh

Chacapoya, Typica, The Blue Fire

Tay-Mania wrote:okay i apparently sacrificed some civil rights for extra economic freedom. don't think it's worth it tbh

Economic freedom is never worth it!

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Tiralta, Nahelia, The Blue Fire, Sylvatica

Sylh Alanor wrote:Economic freedom is never worth it!

i'm not a refugi now 😢

On that note, it seems like business subsidization has quite a bit of correlation with the Economy stat for left-wing nations. 🧐

Tiralta, The Blue Fire

Tay-Mania wrote:i'm not a refugi now 😢
You still have lower economic freedom than me 👀

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Tiralta, The Blue Fire

The Pacific Northwest wrote:You still have lower economic freedom than me 👀

considering you have at least 1 year of shaping your nation, i wouldn't be surprised tho

Tay-Mania wrote:considering you have at least 1 year of shaping your nation, i wouldn't be surprised tho

I havenÂ’t been trying to raise it though, IÂ’ve been focusing on pretty much everything else and itÂ’s just kind of happened. ItÂ’s all over the place really, the highest it ever got was around 50 in July but in general it seems to always end up back at 30-40 something which isnÂ’t super high in the grand scheme but itÂ’s decently high for the region.

Now my civil rights and political freedoms that IÂ’ve been actively trying to raise take way more effort to keep up.

Delta Vega Iv, Araine, Tiralta, The Blue Fire, Pantumaca

Hey folks, this took a minute but! N-Day awards!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1957616

The Star Enpire, Delta Vega Iv, Catiania, Typica, Melenavenia, Araine, Liphia, Tiralta, Jazur, Morrigan, The Blue Fire, Hasunosora, Pantumaca

Chacapoya wrote:Hey folks, this took a minute but! N-Day awards!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1957616

I'M THE REWARD FOR THE CURSED ISLE'S IRE?! This is amazing

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Sylh Alanor wrote:I'M THE REWARD FOR THE CURSED ISLE'S IRE?! This is amazing

#1Cursed Island fan since day one!!!

Typica, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Glad to see the truth is out that Emily has been giving me therapy for years

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

I just realized that, as of now, I am fourth on the Refugia Averageness Scale-

[sub]s o m e h o w[/sub]

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Tiralta, Jazur, Morrigan, The Blue Fire, Silliy

The Pacific Northwest wrote:Now my civil rights and political freedoms that IÂ’ve been actively trying to raise take way more effort to keep up.

I started with one of the worst economies possible and now it's accidentally shot up above my civil rights, even though they were excessive at one point. I haven't done a whole lot on purpose to increase my economy but it's happened anyway, and meanwhile my civil rights keep on dropping...

Delta Vega Iv, Tiralta, Jazur, Morrigan, The Blue Fire

Boxiia wrote:I just realized that, as of now, I am fourth on the Refugia Averageness Scale-

[sub]s o m e h o w[/sub]

Mr. NPC

Typica, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire, Boxiia

I like Christmas. I celebrate Christmas despite not being Christian. But I do sincerely hope that the current Security Council resolution fails, somehow. Partially because I don't like declarations and this one is of particularly bad quality, but also because I support secularism in government and Christmas is a Christian holiday even if you personally don't treat it as such (like myself).

Also I don't recall what my stance was back when declarations were being introduced, but I am firmly against them now regardless.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Liphia, Tiralta, Jazur, Morrigan, The Blue Fire, Silliy, Pantumaca, Agudo Island

Sorry I haven't been around for a while, I had to relocate for work, and that's been a pain.

Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, Estebere, Sempera, The Blue Fire, Silliy

Irimara wrote:Sorry I haven't been around for a while, I had to relocate for work, and that's been a pain.

I hope you settle into the new place quickly!

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Irimara wrote:Sorry I haven't been around for a while, I had to relocate for work, and that's been a pain.

oof, sorry man, hope you like it! best of luck to you man.

Tiralta

Post self-deleted by Chacapoya.

Howdy folkens and Refuge Isle, Chacapoya here. I will not be running for re-election to Operations Councillor for this upcoming term, as I am instead running for Foreign Affairs!

I have some experience in wrangling events with multiple regions, having set up our alliances during N-Day, and fielding and facilitating our participation in events such a Defendervision! I would love to continue working to strengthen our bonds to our embassy regions, and maybe even expand the embassies we do have, to get even more friends around.

If elected, my primary goals for the upcoming term would be to host events with the majority of our embassy regions, working alongside our Councillor of Culture, and to consider adding one or two new embassies with regions that have compatible culture to ours!

Delta Vega Iv, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Liphia, Tiralta, Jazur, Morrigan, The Blue Fire

Silliy wrote:Mr. NPC

"I was an adventurer like you once. Then I took an arrow in the knee."

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Tiralta, Sempera, The Blue Fire, Silliy, Pantumaca, Agudo Island

Irimara wrote:Sorry I haven't been around for a while, I had to relocate for work, and that's been a pain.

Ah, doesn't sound too fun. Hope you're settling in well!

Tiralta, Sempera, The Blue Fire, Ban Oldern

today I watched a p'ay for school stuff, and twas rather nice.

Any of y'all recent'y seen media, theatrical productions or otherwise, that particular'y engaged you as an observer?

Tiralta, Morrigan, The Blue Fire

Jazur wrote:today I watched a p'ay for school stuff, and twas rather nice.

Any of y'all recent'y seen media, theatrical productions or otherwise, that particular'y engaged you as an observer?

The last play I saw was King Lear at a Shakespeare festival in Canada. It was extremely cool set design although it was strange to hear Shakespeare with a Canadian accent.

Typica, Jazur, Morrigan, The Blue Fire

Tiralta wrote:The last play I saw was King Lear at a Shakespeare festival in Canada. It was extremely cool set design although it was strange to hear Shakespeare with a Canadian accent.

Ah yeah bud, how sharper than a serpent's tooth it is to have a thankless child. Hoo boy.

Jazur wrote:Any of y'all recent'y seen media, theatrical productions or otherwise, that particular'y engaged you as an observer?

There's a 2016 RSC production of The Tempest that really stuck with me. Also, if you haven't seen it, The Hollow Crown was an excellent adaptation of Shakespeare's Richard II, Henry IV, Henry V, Henry VI pts 1 and 2, and Richard III. Trailer here: https://youtu.be/ngNXFbTwZZ4?si=hPc6rnqOFXMAsW_u

As far as full on adaptations, I can't recommend Romeo + Juliet highly enough as an encapsulation of 90s culture lol. It's surprisingly good.

Chacapoya, Typica, Aephony, Tiralta, Jazur, Morrigan, The Blue Fire

IÂ’ve finally obtained a 1% badge for environmental beauty.

A little late for green week, but oh well

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Aephony, Tiralta, Morrigan, Nahelia, The Blue Fire, Daymo, Pantumaca

Tay-Mania wrote:okay i apparently sacrificed some civil rights for extra economic freedom. don't think it's worth it tbh

UPDATE: I JUST GOT RECLASSIFIED TO A DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST. ONE MORE STEP TOWARDS THE FUTURE OF THE GAYS

Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire, Ethierys, Boxiia

Tay-Mania wrote:UPDATE: I JUST GOT RECLASSIFIED TO A DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST. ONE MORE STEP TOWARDS THE FUTURE OF THE GAYS

can you imagine being pretty much having a stable income, with ethereal views and being GAY without prejudice! Come on down to Tay-mania, where you can listen to select tunes from popular artists, and a select set of jazz!

Typica, Tiralta, The Blue Fire, Pantumaca

Tay-Mania wrote:can you imagine being pretty much having a stable income, with ethereal views and being GAY without prejudice! Come on down to Tay-mania, where you can listen to select tunes from popular artists, and a select set of jazz!

i should make this into a dispatch of some sort

Boxiia

Tay-Mania wrote:i should make this into a dispatch of some sort

y e s

[sub]p l z[/sub]

The Blue Fire

Boxiia wrote:y e s

[sub]p l z[/sub]

It's up!

Typica, The Blue Fire, Boxiia

Boxiia wrote:"I was an adventurer like you once. Then I took an arrow in the knee."

my skyrim addiction is through the roof right now i love you for this

Chacapoya, Typica, Tiralta, The Blue Fire, Boxiia, Agudo Island

Tiralta wrote:Congratulations to the winners of this year's Green Week - Toothbrush and South Frankston! Please telegram me with your choice of card from this collection for your prize: https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/collection=69297

You can see all of the top 20 results in the dispatch below!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1951978

Hein? Quoi? Oh! Génial! :)

Typica, Tiralta

Toothbrush wrote:Hein? Quoi? Oh! Génial! :)

Félicitations! Vous pouvez choisir la carte que vous préférez dans cette collection pour votre prix: https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/collection=69297

(aussi, excusez mon français, je suis irlandais!)

Chacapoya, The Blue Fire, Toothbrush

Sempera wrote:my skyrim addiction is through the roof right now i love you for this

Psst... I know who you are. Hail Sithis!

Chacapoya, Typica, Tiralta, Sempera, The Blue Fire

fun fact: camels can't swim, but they can float

Delta Vega Iv, Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Istastioner, The Blue Fire, Pantumaca

Refuge Isle I would like to run for Councillor of Cartography

Chacapoya, Typica, Portmanteau, Tiralta, The Blue Fire

Sempera wrote:my skyrim addiction is through the roof right now i love you for this

Agudo Island wrote:Psst... I know who you are. Hail Sithis!

"Hey, you. You're finally awake." [sup]-Hadvar[/sup]

Chacapoya, Typica, Sempera

Assembled with Dot's Region Saver.
Written by Refuge Isle.