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Estebere wrote:I just read the Liberate Canada thing and it's hilarious

Didn't get how this Lil thing ended up here XD

Falafelandia, Jazur, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire

Estebere wrote:I just read the Liberate Canada thing and it's hilarious

For me it's just the author arguing in the forum that they know what's best for Canada with two active and long-established natives. Strange approach.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Araine, Falafelandia, Jazur, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire

how did it even get a vote

Falafelandia, Jazur, Uwuguaya, Thingessness

New Atlantic wrote:how did it even get a vote

Someone was sleeping on the job for that to get through

Falafelandia, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire, Thingessness

It would likely be worthwhile to liberate Refugia's historical embassy, Canada, at some point, since it has been under occupation for the last two months. With raiders banning WA natives that have resided there for over three years at this point, Canada's decision to not want aid expelling them truly is "one of the decisions of all time". But if Canada does not want a liberation, they won't get it, and First Nightmare is a fool for trying to push it through without their blessing.

If only the SC adopted the same stance for injunctions.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Catiania, Cheesy Tots, Narwhal, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Jazur, Waywards Edge, Estebere, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire

Refuge Isle wrote:If only the SC adopted the same stance for injunctions.

That would be lovely.

Chacapoya, Araine, Falafelandia, Uwuguaya

Refuge Isle wrote:-snip-

Was thinking about making a Liberate Canada, decided not to because I've never done anything in the WA before. Though I'm not sure why Canada wouldn't want a liberation, which kinda confuses me, unless it's one of the raiders trying to push it through to poke fun at the WA.

Chacapoya, Portmanteau, Nollyland, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Jazur, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire, Thingessness

Waywards Edge wrote:Was thinking about making a Liberate Canada, decided not to because I've never done anything in the WA before. Though I'm not sure why Canada wouldn't want a liberation, which kinda confuses me, unless it's one of the raiders trying to push it through to poke fun at the WA.

The natives of Canada have done the maths, and even if none of them gained any influence from this moment on, it would currently take 7 years to eject them all, I think. The way either Al or Shay (I can't remember who rn) put it on the SC forum was that they don't want Canada to become a battleground for R/D folks. They're pretty neutral and not really reactive, and my own stance is that while I might not understand, it's their region and they've been resident in Canada longer than a fair few of those occupying them have been alive.

Unfortunately my nation there got banjected so I can no longer tell if they're still having a tea party with the raiders like they were a couple of weeks ago.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Araine, Liphia, Portmanteau, Falafelandia, Jazur, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire, The Ledona

Tiralta wrote:-snip-

Seven years? Jeez. That makes more sense, so is canada just.. going to disappear?

Chacapoya, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Jazur, The Blue Fire, Thingessness

Tiralta wrote:The natives of Canada have done the maths, and even if none of them gained any influence from this moment on, it would currently take 7 years to eject them all.

More or less.

It would take (at the occupation's current endorsement rates) twenty three and a half years to banject the top ten natives by influence. So Canada believes that the occupation will end on its own, as raiders grow tired of sitting in a place that they cannot destroy but must dedicate resources to controlling. Unfortunately for the rest of the natives, they are not so safe and were likely overlooked or considered a non-concern when devising their strategy, for little protects them from being banned.

After the top ten nations, the influence rates in Canada drop sharply. #10 has 138k, #20 has 31k. There aren't many WA nations past 20 and Non-WA nations are only protected by their residency influence (+2 per day), which is almost no protection at all. Consequently, the number of native nations in Canada has dropped from 200 before the occupation to what I would assess is 70 now.

This is why I have stressed the importance of endorsing each other in Refugia for years. Like tart.calref.ca explains, an influence fortress is one of the most effective ways of protecting a region and the nations in it. It is not only important to me that the region itself cannot be destroyed, but that all the nations in it remain safe as well. That is a power created by endorsing your region-mates.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Catiania, Poquaoi, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Narwhal, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Liphia, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Jazur, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire, Thingessness

Any Refugia states that I haven't endorsed by all means telegram me to exchange.

The Blue Fire gains from communication. Endorsed.

Falafelandia, Jazur, Uwuguaya

Refuge Isle wrote:More or less.

It would take (at the occupation's current endorsement rates) twenty-three and a half years to banject the top ten natives by influence. So Canada believes that the occupation will end on its own, as raiders grow tired of sitting in a place that they cannot destroy but must dedicate resources to control. Unfortunately for the rest of the natives, they are not so safe and were likely overlooked or considered a non-concern when devising their strategy, for little protects them from being banned.

After the top ten nations, the influence rates in Canada drop sharply. #10 has 138k, #20 has 31k. There aren't many WA nations past 20 and Non-WA nations are only protected by their residency influence (+2 per day), which is almost no protection at all. Consequently, the number of native countries in Canada has dropped from 200 before the occupation to what I would assess is 70 now.

I have stressed the importance of endorsing each other in Refugia for years. As tart.calref.ca explains, an influence fortress is one of the most effective ways of protecting a region and its nations. It is not only important to me that the region itself cannot be destroyed, but that all the nations in it remain safe as well. That is a power created by endorsing your region-mates.

I think Canada and this resolution trying to liberate them will serve as a good example to the international community to both endorse other regionmates and not try to pass things w/o talking to the natives first

Falafelandia, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire

Tiralta wrote:I can no longer tell if they're still having a tea party with the raiders like they were a couple of weeks ago.

I went ahead and checked their RMB out of boredom, and I discovered that the tea party is over.

But also, what?

Falafelandia, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire, Thingessness

Just wanted to say I'm still around! Took a break from Ns but I'll be Endorsing when I get home. It's too much of a pain in the butt on mobile.

Narwhal, Falafelandia, The Blue Fire, The Ledona

Estebere wrote:I went ahead and checked their RMB out of boredom, and I discovered that the tea party is over.

But also, what?

It literally never occurred to me that I would still be able to see their RMB. I just went "aw no, guess I'm banned." Woops XD

Chacapoya, Narwhal, Araine, Liphia, Falafelandia, Estebere, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire, Nashfilla

I know there is a very small chance that anyone would have remembered my old flag, but I got a knew one. My old flag was made in MS Paint, and my knew one was made in https://tennessine.co.uk/flags/

Chacapoya, Typica, Tiralta, Uwuguaya, The Ledona

[spoiler=Question on the current GA resolution] 2.b) ESDI access for such research may only be denied to areas within a member nation to which access is restricted for all national residents without specific authorisation for protection of national security or public health or safety, or that area's status as private property, a quarantined area, or a vulnerable culturally or environmentally significant site, by that member nation or an entity therein in charge of preventing unauthorised access to that area, unless the ESDI can clearly demonstrate that such access is to the minimal extent necessary to achieve the aim of that research. If the ESDI does enter such an area, it shall take sufficient precautions to duly minimise or prevent risk to national security, public health or safety, or damage to that private property or culturally or environmentally significant site.

2.c) No member nation or entity therein may wilfully otherwise obstruct the due course of any such research, via action or lack thereof.

Is it just me or do the marked sections sound contradictory?

Like you are allowed to say “No!” to the ESDI wanting to enter certain areas but then immediately afterwards it says that you aren’t allowed to do so. Did I misread that?[/spoiler]

Uwuguaya wrote:snippity

The "otherwise" after "wilfully" in 2c is doing a lot of heavy lifting, but it's there.

Uwuguaya

Penocampt is 9th place in Refugia for most patriotic-

Tbh, I kinda feel like because of the way that I'm trying to make Penocampt be, people are forced to be patriotic to avoid getting the death centence in prison-

(also explains 2nd place in authoritarianism)

Typica, Portmanteau, Voinarx

I'm 19th in refugia for civil rights...with 88

Araine, Portmanteau, Uwuguaya, Ethierys, Nashfilla

Post by Capitalist Empire Of Plushieland suppressed by Tiralta.

Capitalist Empire Of Plushieland

Thingessness wrote:AMAZING HISTORY, full of chaos and m_rder,

worse than the french revolution i can say.

(I laughed a lot)

Azohahae: got a taste of its own medicine again, first mods, now The Brotherhood Of Malice.

Penocampt wrote:Penocampt is 9th place in Refugia for most patriotic

New Atlantic wrote:I'm 19th in refugia for civil rights...with 88

My top statistic in Refugia has been swapping between foreign aid and public transport for a little while now, at like 25th/26th. I'm hoping to be the champion of public transport some day though

Typica, Araine, Portmanteau, Jazur, The Ledona

At Puppet Club today someone ate pencil lead

Tiralta, Jazur, Thingessness

Election Notice:

My apologies for the latency, I was out today. The candidacy period has closed for the May 2023 Regional Council elections:

[list]

[*]Councillor of Foreign Affairs: There was one valid candidate and therefore Minskievian Refugees is elected by default.

[*]Councillor of Operations: There was one valid candidate and therefore Falafelandia is elected by default.

[list]

[*]These offices will forego an election, and they will begin their terms Monday, May 29th.

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[list][*]Councillor of World Assembly Affairs: There were no valid candidates and therefore I will act in the office's capacity via RRS 13(h) after this term's end.

[*]Councillor of Culture: There were two valid candidates, which were New Atlantic, and The Star Enpire.

[list][*]

An election is therefore initiated to determine the next Councillor of Culture, available here for one calendar week: https://vote.calref.ca/vote/53

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Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Liphia, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, Ullrani, Uwuguaya, Thingessness, The Ledona

Refuge Isle wrote:Election Notice:

My apologies for the latency, I was out today. The candidacy period has closed for the May 2023 Regional Council elections:

[list]

[*]Councillor of Foreign Affairs: There was one valid candidate and therefore Minskievian Refugees is elected by default.

[*]Councillor of Operations: There was one valid candidate and therefore Falafelandia is elected by default.

[list]

[*]These offices will forego an election, and they will begin their terms Monday, May 29th.

[/list][/list]

[list][*]Councillor of World Assembly Affairs: There were no valid candidates and therefore I will act in the office's capacity via RRS 13(h) after this term's end.

[*]Councillor of Culture: There were two valid candidates, which were New Atlantic, and The Star Enpire.

[list][*]

An election is therefore initiated to determine the next Councillor of Culture, available here for one calendar week: https://vote.calref.ca/vote/53

[/list][/list]

didn't Uwuguaya say they wanted to run for CoFA?

Uwuguaya

New Atlantic wrote:didn't Uwuguaya say they wanted to run for CoFA?

Nope, they asked a bunch of questions about how it was different from WA delegate but didn't declare an intention to run.

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Jazur, Uwuguaya

New Atlantic The Star Enpire

There was no campaigning this round, and I think that either of you would make a good culture councillor. So, in order to help me vote, I have a question!

Do you have any plans for things you'd like to do this term?

It's okay if you haven't got any detailed ideas and it's all just vibes at the moment ^.^

The Star Enpire, Araine, Jazur, Uwuguaya

Tiralta wrote:New Atlantic The Star Enpire

There was no campaigning this round, and I think that either of you would make a good culture councillor. So, in order to help me vote, I have a question!

Do you have any plans for things you'd like to do this term?

It's okay if you haven't got any detailed ideas and it's all just vibes at the moment ^.^

I want to get to know the refugi community better and run some events

The Star Enpire, Delta Vega Iv, Tiralta, Uwuguaya

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_merinos/detail=factbook/id=1840866

Sorry to barge in, but I want to hear your guy's thoughts on the completed Factbook

:3

Typica, Narwhal, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, The Ledona

New Atlantic wrote:I'm 19th in refugia for civil rights...with 88

Well I don't need to share my highest thing

Refuge Isle wrote:[list][*]Councillor of World Assembly Affairs: There were no valid candidates and therefore I will act in the office's capacity via RRS 13(h) after this term's end.[/list]

As my first unofficial official opinion of my office, jesus mary and joseph what the friar tuck is this general assembly resolution bullshit.

If this were May 29th my recommendation would be against.

Delta Vega Iv, Poquaoi, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Liphia, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, Uwuguaya, The Ledona

I'll likely apply for Councillor of World Assembly Affairs next cycle, just didn't want to try and offer myself for a major role when I've only been here a couple months!

Typica, Tiralta, Uwuguaya

The Merinos wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_merinos/detail=factbook/id=1840866

Sorry to barge in, but I want to hear your guy's thoughts on the completed Factbook

:3

This is really cool, I love the different flags for each state!

Portmanteau

The Merinos wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_merinos/detail=factbook/id=1840866

Sorry to barge in, but I want to hear your guy's thoughts on the completed Factbook

:3

The names and f'ags are very nice. I especia'y 'ike 'acus Caeruleus!

Portmanteau, Tiralta, The Merinos

The Merinos wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_merinos/detail=factbook/id=1840866

Sorry to barge in, but I want to hear your guy's thoughts on the completed Factbook

:3

For what it's meant to do, it works absolutely perfectly, I can seriously see this used for some government museum thing or something, but as a person with a high appreciation of fantasy and word walls I'll give it a 6/10 review because of personal preferences.

Liphia, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, The Merinos

Estebere wrote:but as a person with a high appreciation of fantasy and word walls I'll give it a 6/10 review because of personal preferences.

LOL!

"Unfortunately, not enough ink was spilt on the vagaries of folkloric figures between the various states. Also would have preferred tiered subdivisions of obscure local administrative jurisdictions — not one bailiwick or chapelry to be found. Needs more examples of transcribed folk songs without any hint to the reader how the tune should go."

:P

Typica, Liphia, Tiralta, Jazur

Estebere wrote:For what it's meant to do, it works absolutely perfectly, I can seriously see this used for some government museum thing or something, but as a person with a high appreciation of fantasy and word walls I'll give it a 6/10 review because of personal preferences.

I plan on making separate articles for each of the states once I stop procrastinating.

Uwuguaya

In regards to my current SC vote, I'll point back to my previous reason.

Sylh Alanor wrote:I'm voting against the at-vote Security Council resolution. The reason is that the same voting bloc blocking raiders from being condemned and forcing injunctions of raider-aligned regions have been shotgunning these at us constantly. If we're going to be a proper unaligned region in terms of gameplay, weighing SC takes on the merit of the writing and the good- or bad-faith motives behind them, then I feel it's only right as our regional representative to the World Assembly to vote against r/d related commends until this behaviour targetting r/d related condemns and regional punishments stop.

This will not stop me from voting for liberations when they relate to active or embassy regions (barring my one "against due to author" author) but consider it a new personal stance for the remainder of my tenure as delegate or for the remainder of the GP voting bloc propping up one side and erasing all history of the other.

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Tiralta, Uwuguaya

The Merinos wrote:I plan on making separate articles for each of the states once I stop procrastinating.

Ah, got it. Same here actually, although I do suppose you’ve done a fair bit more than me.

Portmanteau wrote:snip

I think chaplery is my new favorite word. Sounds both like a classic nonsensical word and roof tiles.

Typica, Portmanteau, Tiralta, The Merinos

Tiralta wrote:New Atlantic The Star Enpire

There was no campaigning this round, and I think that either of you would make a good culture councillor. So, in order to help me vote, I have a question!

Do you have any plans for things you'd like to do this term?

It's okay if you haven't got any detailed ideas and it's all just vibes at the moment ^.^

Just vibes sounds about right for what's going on in my head.

But I was thinking about citybuilding. I have acquired the rules for a sort of ttrpg about collaborating on creating a city but nobody to play it with. I would like to sketch out my city, but I'm also fine with making a new one.

Alternately, another idea I had was to investigate and report on other "political simulation games." Nationstates is technicality one after all, even if a bad and boring one.

But yeah, learning how to work as a councilor is never a bad idea.

Delta Vega Iv, Tiralta, Jazur

Hi friends,

With election season in full effect, it's probably become apparent that I'm not seeking reelection. My term as Councillor of World Assembly Affairs will draw to a close at the end of this election cycle. In order to make up for my silence and meet my obligations, I've prepared three things:

1) An official statement on the outgoing position of the office on the state of the World Assembly, with feedback and recommendations on how members of the region can effectively participate going forward. https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1883780

2) A brand new How Does article to guide aspiring authors through the process of both writing and understanding World Assembly legislation. I spent quite a while on this and I really hope it's of use to someone, so please check it out. https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1883773

3) As an incentive for people to read these dispatches and take them to heart, an ongoing open offer to gift the next Refugi who becomes a first-time WA author a Season 2 legendary Tzo trading card. For the terms and details, please check out the office statement dispatch linked above.

I hope these tools can reestablish Refugia's World Assembly engagement under a more energetic councillor in the future.

Cheers,

Junitaki-cho

The Star Enpire, Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Poquaoi, Zukchiva, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Liphia, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, Uwuguaya, Ansgar, The Ledona

Junitaki-Cho wrote:I hope these tools can reestablish Refugia's World Assembly engagement under a more energetic councillor in the future.

We will build statues in your visage.

Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, Uwuguaya

Whoooo new power

Typica

Junitaki-Cho wrote:Snip

Wow, this is definitely one of the best summations of the WA process I've seen! I'm personally of the opinion that our mind-numbing fantasy legislation is narrowly less insane than real life legislation, but that's some thorough work to have done. Major props, I think that's a must read for new or ambitious WA nations from any region.

I can try to get a little more into some of the mess that is security council politics if anyone is unsure or wants to learn more, since this dispatch mostly revolves around WA proposals. I'm still no expert and honestly, every individual nomination needs different game experience to properly analyse the worth of, but having spent half a decade in Europeia, (which I swear roughly 50% of commendations involve) I've got a fair level of knowledge. I think that dispatch plus our delegate's recent position (vote for things that make a region actually habitable for people who want to be there, screw stuff in favour of defender nations until they stop hogging the table) sums stuff up to the level anyone of sound mind should bother with, though.

Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Uwuguaya, The Ledona

Poquaoi wrote:Wow, this is definitely one of the best summations of the WA process I've seen! I'm personally of the opinion that our mind-numbing fantasy legislation is narrowly less insane than real life legislation, but that's some thorough work to have done. Major props, I think that's a must read for new or ambitious WA nations from any region.

I can try to get a little more into some of the mess that is security council politics if anyone is unsure or wants to learn more, since this dispatch mostly revolves around WA proposals. I'm still no expert and honestly, every individual nomination needs different game experience to properly analyse the worth of, but having spent half a decade in Europeia, (which I swear roughly 50% of commendations involve) I've got a fair level of knowledge. I think that dispatch plus our delegate's recent position (vote for things that make a region actually habitable for people who want to be there, screw stuff in favour of defender nations until they stop hogging the table) sums stuff up to the level anyone of sound mind should bother with, though.

Thank you! I'd definitely be up for expanding it to include more detail and a section on the SC if you and some of the other local experts wanted to work on something. I've never been able to get invested in the narratives of it, myself, and incidentally I think I would have tried harder if there'd been readily available resources to refer to.

Chacapoya, Poquaoi, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Liphia, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Uwuguaya

Attention complacent nations of Refugia! The Feudal Sultanate is no more, long may the slaves be free and the serfs emancipated! We the people of Jazur declare an end to our international correspondence!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1884097

Falafelandia, New Ras, Uwuguaya

Jazur wrote:Attention complacent nations of Refugia! The Feudal Sultanate is no more, long may the slaves be free and the serfs emancipated! We the people of Jazur declare an end to our international correspondence!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1884097

The government of Falafelandia celebrates the rise of democracy, but does not wish for Jazur to leave us.

New flag to celebrate new position!

Typica, Jazur, Uwuguaya, The Ledona

[spoiler=Why Uwuguaya didn’t run for CoFA]

New Atlantic wrote:didn't Uwuguaya say they wanted to run for CoFA?

Tiralta wrote:Nope, they asked a bunch of questions about how it was different from WA delegate but didn't declare an intention to run.

This^

I would be interested but currently I’m in a state of where things in my life are changing soon fast plus I wanted to check in with the former CoFA to gain a better understanding of what the office encompasses first, so I won’t really have time to commit right now to an office this valuable and time-consuming as it does need great effort which I currently can’t come up with. So no, I currently won’t run but I may be open for running for it in the future.[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Uwuguayan reaction to the Jazuri revolt]

Jazur wrote:Attention complacent nations of Refugia! The Feudal Sultanate is no more, long may the slaves be free and the serfs emancipated! We the people of Jazur declare an end to our international correspondence!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1884097

Whilst the glorious matriarchy welcomes the notion of the abolition of slavery within the rebel territory, Uwuguaya, as member of the Triquetra Concordat, will come to its allies aid if requested and also readies its fully undressed military, consisting only of women due to their natural mental strength and battle prowess.

[/spoiler]

Typica, Falafelandia, Jazur, New Ras

Jazur wrote:Attention complacent nations of Refugia! The Feudal Sultanate is no more, long may the slaves be free and the serfs emancipated! We the people of Jazur declare an end to our international correspondence!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1884097

New Ras is unsurprised by this revolt, but urges fellow member states of Refugia to tread cautiously and remain neutral in the Jazuri Revolt.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1884146

Falafelandia, Jazur, Uwuguaya

Junitaki-Cho wrote:1) An official statement on the outgoing position of the office on the state of the World Assembly, with feedback and recommendations on how members of the region can effectively participate going forward. https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1883780

I've only now found the time to read this in full.

I appreciate the takedowns of everything, though mainly the SC. A lot of resolutions these days, especially in the SC are decided before they hit the voting floor due to alliances, DM deals, or The South Pacific extorting regions behind closed doors. Although to some extent that has always been the case, the ballooning of these issues have certainly taken form in the last year and a half. It is true that even for a region of Refugia's size, it can be hard to feel influential, and individual voters are left behind at a greater order of magnitude.

I also understand that it takes a vast amount of work to analyse and decode proposals before they hit the floor, and if you're doing that for both chambers of the WA, it's very draining. I was Deputy Minister of World Assembly Affairs in The East Pacific for eight months, the equivalent of two pre-2023 councillor terms in Refugia, and that seemed to be the absolute limit that I could sustain the time to prep, analyse, and publicly comment on everything coming up.

While we will never stop having massive voting blocs, and while analysing WA legislation will never be faster or easier, my take on it is twofold. One is that frontiers being released will gradually de-power feeders by 50% -- it's doubtful that we will be seeing votes of 1,300 again from the North, no matter how much money they're trying to raise for stamps.

The second is that, although Refugia's WAA councillor may not be able to change a vote's course and direction, it's important that we determine and state what side of an issue WE are on and why, as ours is the only region we are responsible for. There are also many regions out there who have in the past, and will again in the future, read our WA recommendations, appreciated their counsel, and voted similarly due to our arguments.

While we will not always get our way in the WA, these thoughtful and well-reasoned stances serve our region's honour and reputation as reasonable, respectable, and competent. And I think that's the real role of the Councillor of World Assembly Affairs.

Chacapoya, Poquaoi, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Narwhal, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Tiralta, A Million Dreams, Falafelandia, New Ras, Ullrani, Uwuguaya, The Ledona

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Falafelandia, Jazur

Refuge Isle wrote:I've only now found the time to read this in full.

I appreciate the takedowns of everything, though mainly the SC. A lot of resolutions these days, especially in the SC are decided before they hit the voting floor due to alliances, DM deals, or The South Pacific extorting regions behind closed doors. Although to some extent that has always been the case, the ballooning of these issues have certainly taken form in the last year and a half. It is true that even for a region of Refugia's size, it can be hard to feel influential, and individual voters are left behind at a greater order of magnitude.

I also understand that it takes a vast amount of work to analyse and decode proposals before they hit the floor, and if you're doing that for both chambers of the WA, it's very draining. I was Deputy Minister of World Assembly Affairs in The East Pacific for eight months, the equivalent of two pre-2023 councillor terms in Refugia, and that seemed to be the absolute limit that I could sustain the time to prep, analyse, and publicly comment on everything coming up.

While we will never stop having massive voting blocs, and while analysing WA legislation will never be faster or easier, my take on it is twofold. One is that frontiers being released will gradually de-power feeders by 50% -- it's doubtful that we will be seeing votes of 1,300 again from the North, no matter how much money they're trying to raise for stamps.

The second is that, although Refugia's WAA councillor may not be able to change a vote's course and direction, it's important that we determine and state what side of an issue WE are on and why, as ours is the only region we are responsible for. There are also many regions out there who have in the past, and will again in the future, read our WA recommendations, appreciated their counsel, and voted similarly due to our arguments.

While we will not always get our way in the WA, these thoughtful and well-reasoned stances serve our region's honour and reputation as reasonable, respectable, and competent. And I think that's the real role of the Councillor of World Assembly Affairs.

I agree that WAA is important in establishing and affirming our communal stances. I hope that having an established, formatted IFV template and a clearer sense of how to do that work in a timely manner will make the next councillor more able to meet those needs. It is ultimately a position that serves the community here and a good jolt of energy could get us back to prior levels of engagement. It's just a question of whether the traditional IFV route is the best way to accomplish that compared to something like leading group discussions about and in drafting threads.

I'd certainly like to see feeders become less influential, but I wonder who's going to fill that void as it appears. I forgot to come back to it but I was going to include something about the current voting power of delegates and muse on whether the largest regions with the biggest delegates are all that different from one another, whether they're GCRs or UCRs. At the end of the day it's the handful of power users who are enjoying the consolidation of power rather than the entire population of those regions.

Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Narwhal, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Tiralta, A Million Dreams, The Ledona

Well just opened NS for the first time in a while [I am back] and I just got rickrolled via Dispatch on a Telegram. N I C E

Btw, how is everyone?

Delta Vega Iv, Araine, Liphia, Tiralta, A Million Dreams, Jazur, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire, The Ledona

Polushia wrote:Well just opened NS for the first time in a while [I am back] and I just got rickrolled via Dispatch on a Telegram. N I C E

Same here exactly 23 days ago

Jazur wrote:Attention complacent nations of Refugia! The Feudal Sultanate is no more, long may the slaves be free and the serfs emancipated! We the people of Jazur declare an end to our international correspondence!

Wait, am I supposed to help to deal with this under article five of WESLR, since I think you're part of the concordat(If that's just WESLR)

Tiralta, New Ras, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire

Junitaki-Cho wrote:At the end of the day it's the handful of power users who are enjoying the consolidation of power rather than the entire population of those regions.

This is unfortunately the most real-to-life accurate part of NationStates' political simulation.

Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, A Million Dreams, Jazur, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire, The Ledona

[spoiler=Dying Jazuri Sultanate?]As the situation in the Sultanate of Jazur is getting worse and worse by the minute, Uwuguaya’s government released a statement saying Uwuguaya will commit to a TC military operation that will restore peace and order on the main island of the sultanate.

Several uwuguayan newspapers have requested further information on what the goals of this mission are, but so far only got the information that the name of the operation is supposedly Eirene, named after the Greek goddess of peace. Whether this is true or not could not be confirmed by the reporters nor any further details on the operation got revealed.

Though from the harbour of Uwuguaya city several ships could be seen departing, and helicopters and troops seemed to board the various vessels beforehand.

Meanwhile the High Gynode denied all claims of any troop movements and their speaker stated that ”a military training operation is underway soon, but not at the current date.”[/spoiler]

Jazur, New Ras, Irimara

Hello everyone!

The Merinos, Uwuguaya

Flomonga wrote:Hello everyone!

Hello!

Uwuguaya, Flomonga

Do yall have elections going on?

Tidelia wrote:My top statistic in Refugia has been swapping between foreign aid and public transport for a little while now, at like 25th/26th. I'm hoping to be the champion of public transport some day though

Oh, patriotism isn't my top statistic, it's actually athoritarianism at somewhere at a range of 3rd-6th place??? (there was a time where I was first place tho-)

Edit : As of editing this now, I'm at 2nd place-

Tidelia, The Blue Fire

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_merinos/detail=factbook/id=1884521

I created this treaty for anyone to join.

I'm also open to any feedback about my writing.

Tiralta

Post self-deleted by Slaggstone Bruntt.

The Merinos wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_merinos/detail=factbook/id=1884521

I created this treaty for anyone to join.

I'm also open to any feedback about my writing.

How do I sign? Do I just go, “I, Nashfilla, sign the RNA”?

Tiralta

Nashfilla wrote:How do I sign? Do I just go, “I, Nashfilla, sign the RNA”?

You can send me a telegram with the name of your signatory

Tiralta

join TTC

perks of joining TTC

-cookies

-- You get a cookie, that's it

Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Flomonga wrote:Do yall have elections going on?

Yes, there is currently an election for the Councillor of Culture for the next four and a half days on https://vote.calref.ca/

Chacapoya, Tiralta

so whats happend here? just here for the weekly news update

Delta Vega Iv

Polushia wrote:Well just opened NS for the first time in a while [I am back] and I just got rickrolled via Dispatch on a Telegram. N I C E

Btw, how is everyone?

Busier than ever, I just came back to check on the WA & SC resolutions, and vote Against both (I hope to find time to elaborate on my reasons later, but Refuge Isle pretty much summed up what I think of the WA proposal, lol). I also realize we have elections for Culture and both candidates seem terrifically awesome and it's hard to choose.

How are you?

Chacapoya, Typica, Tiralta, The Blue Fire

Waywards Edge wrote:join TTC

perks of joining TTC

-cookies

-- You get a cookie, that's it

I want a cookie. How do I join the TTC?

Typica, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Estebere wrote:I want a cookie. How do I join the TTC?

Send a telegram to Waywardia!

Jazur

Hello my name is Gladys Testimonial and in my nation everyone, when they reach the age of majority (16), they must sign the constitution. Every three months we must amend the constitution [to have more paper].

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Liphia, Tiralta, A Million Dreams, Falafelandia, Jazur, Nasejo, The Ledona

Refuge Isle wrote:Hello my name is Gladys Testimonial and in my nation everyone, when they reach the age of majority (16), they must sign the constitution. Every three months we must amend the constitution [to have more paper].

That's a lot of paper. Those poor trees!

Delta Vega Iv, Tiralta, The Blue Fire

I just wished to clarify why I voted against the SC proposal. I support Defenderism in general, but not in this case. Though I know nothing about the target of the commendation besides what's written in the proposal, I do not consider deceitfulness a positive trait, let alone one worthy of my commendation. Not even in a game. I believe such a Commendation sets a bad example for people reading it.

Typica, Tiralta

Refuge Isle wrote:Hello my name is Gladys Testimonial and in my nation everyone, when they reach the age of majority (16), they must sign the constitution. Every three months we must amend the constitution [to have more paper].

0.0

What happens when someone is unable or unwilling to sign?

Tiralta, A Million Dreams, Falafelandia

Refuge Isle wrote:Hello my name is Gladys Testimonial and in my nation everyone, when they reach the age of majority (16), they must sign the constitution. Every three months we must amend the constitution [to have more paper].

Huh. That's neat.

Slaggstone Bruntt wrote:That's a lot of paper. Those poor trees!

Oh-

Typica wrote:0.0

What happens when someone is unable or unwilling to sign?

Good point...

Typica, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire, Boxiia, Voinarx

ello

Portmanteau, Falafelandia, Jazur, Boxiia, Voinarx

Crienia wrote:ello

Hello and welcome to Refugia!

Or have you been here before?

Typica, Falafelandia, Jazur, Voinarx

Typica wrote:0.0

What happens when someone is unable or unwilling to sign?

I hear rumors that they're turned into paper for the next person.

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Falafelandia

Huzzahs has been banned due to information received showing homophobic remarks.

Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Jazur, The Merinos, New Atlantic, Tidelia, Slaggstone Bruntt, The Blue Fire, Ethierys, The Ledona

Hello folks and welcome to Map 2 Update 2: 2 Map 2 Update.

Thanks to everyone who waited on me doing this while I slowly had a breakdown, got a new job, and emerged from said breakdown with a to do list as tall as me that included things like "return the library book you borrowed in August 2022" and "map update when?". One of these things has been done now. I'd say the map update was at the expense of the library book, but the truth is I'm writing this at 10.30pm on a Tuesday and the local library is small and the only time it sees 10.30pm is when it's used as a voting centre for elections.

Speaking of elections, we have one going in Refugia right now! Vote on your device and receive a smug sense of contribution to democracy and a brand new Councillor of Culture! https://vote.calref.ca/vote/53

Anyway, on to the updates.

We have had our very first Map 2 victim! Goodbye Nea Ellada, and with them, the Olympian culture. Will that space become the new Cursed Island? Only time will tell.

The members of WESLR have been busy decorating and building extensions to the houses known as their nations. Waywards Edge has had an expansion across the area now named by her as "The Strait of Colours". Estebere has also looked deep within their heart and seen the truth, and in doing so is bringing the Potato culture over from Map 1 to spread to Map 2.

We also have more neighbours now! Exciting times, and the map is looking much fuller than it did before. I think we've roughly doubled the number of nations for this update. Welcome to:

[list][*]Ansgar who has also founded the Ansgarian culture.

[*]Uwuguaya bringing us the Uwuguayan culture.

[*]Slaggstone Bruntt and The Gifted culture.

[*]Falafelandia and the Judeo-Refugi culture.

[*]Ridmona joining the pre-existing Leonean culture.

[*]Paraxium who has started the Paraxian culture.

[*]Nollyland who has taken inspiration from Map 1 to bring the Portuguese culture to Map 2.

[*]Altruismia and the Altruism culture.

[*]New Atlantic and the Atlantean culture.

[*]The Ledona who has founded the Ledonan culture.

[*]Thingessness who is the founder of the mysterious sounding Things.[/list]

You can view the changes here, any strongly worded letters should be sent by carrier pigeon to "Max Barry" (this is definitely my real name and I will 100% receive such messages).

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1853620

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Altruismia, Typica, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Portmanteau, A Million Dreams, Falafelandia, Jazur, New Atlantic, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire, Ansgar, The Ledona

Howdy howdy howdy guys and gals and non binary pals, your favorite councilors of culture have a cute little eco report for yall! We have lots of content in this one, and we hope yall enjoy!!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1885403

The Star Enpire, Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Portmanteau, Tiralta, A Million Dreams, Falafelandia, Jazur, Nahelia, Nasejo, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire, Lanassia, The Ledona

Typica wrote:0.0

What happens when someone is unable or unwilling to sign?

You have to sign to get citizenship. If you refuse, to the outer world ye go! Or just the swamp people. The swamp people is better.

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Portmanteau, A Million Dreams, Falafelandia, Jazur, The Blue Fire, The Ledona

Typica wrote:0.0

What happens when someone is unable or unwilling to sign?

Drawn out legal proceedings followed by a dramatic ejection out of the airlock and a disappointing announcement declaring that you were not, in fact, the impostor.

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Portmanteau, A Million Dreams, Falafelandia, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Tiralta wrote:Hello folks and welcome to Map 2 Update 2: 2 Map 2 Update.

Thanks to everyone who waited on me doing this while I slowly had a breakdown, got a new job, and emerged from said breakdown with a to do list as tall as me that included things like "return the library book you borrowed in August 2022" and "map update when?". One of these things has been done now. I'd say the map update was at the expense of the library book, but the truth is I'm writing this at 10.30pm on a Tuesday and the local library is small and the only time it sees 10.30pm is when it's used as a voting centre for elections.

Speaking of elections, we have one going in Refugia right now! Vote on your device and receive a smug sense of contribution to democracy and a brand new Councillor of Culture! https://vote.calref.ca/vote/53

Anyway, on to the updates.

We have had our very first Map 2 victim! Goodbye Nea Ellada, and with them, the Olympian culture. Will that space become the new Cursed Island? Only time will tell.

The members of WESLR have been busy decorating and building extensions to the houses known as their nations. Waywards Edge has had an expansion across the area now named by her as "The Strait of Colours". Estebere has also looked deep within their heart and seen the truth, and in doing so is bringing the Potato culture over from Map 1 to spread to Map 2.

We also have more neighbours now! Exciting times, and the map is looking much fuller than it did before. I think we've roughly doubled the number of nations for this update. Welcome to:

[list][*]Ansgar who has also founded the Ansgarian culture.

[*]Uwuguaya bringing us the Uwuguayan culture.

[*]Slaggstone Bruntt and The Gifted culture.

[*]Falafelandia and the Judeo-Refugi culture.

[*]Ridmona joining the pre-existing Leonean culture.

[*]Paraxium who has started the Paraxian culture.

[*]Nollyland who has taken inspiration from Map 1 to bring the Portuguese culture to Map 2.

[*]Altruismia and the Altruism culture.

[*]New Atlantic and the Atlantean culture.

[*]The Ledona who has founded the Ledonan culture.

[*]Thingessness who is the founder of the mysterious sounding Things.[/list]

You can view the changes here, any strongly worded letters should be sent by carrier pigeon to "Max Barry" (this is definitely my real name and I will 100% receive such messages).

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1853620

i'm on the map

Portmanteau, Tiralta, A Million Dreams, Jazur, The Merinos, Uwuguaya, Boxiia, The Ledona

Falafelandia wrote:i'm on the map

Nice

Tiralta, Falafelandia

Lethodus wrote:Howdy howdy howdy guys and gals and non binary pals, your favorite councilors of culture have a cute little eco report for yall!

Thanks for the cute little eco report :)

I enjoy perusing regional stat trends, so the two environmental stat changes were fun to see. Also, the news about India's tiger population was especially heartening, as that has long been a subject that depressed me.

Lethodus, Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire, The Ledona

Tiralta wrote:

Thingessness who is the founder of the mysterious sounding Things.[/list]

Yeah.... Mysterious.....

(I just spam thing everywhere ngl)

Tiralta, Falafelandia, Uwuguaya

Thingessness wrote:Yeah.... Mysterious.....

(I just spam thing everywhere ngl)

With the black and the things it feels like a mysterious one, I liked it!

Falafelandia, Uwuguaya, Thingessness

Tiralta wrote: -snip-

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1853620

Wayhay!!! Great to see the map get updated, and proud to be included ^^

It also coincided with me unlocking my capital city this morning too, so To'anu is truly official!

Typica, Araine, Liphia, Tiralta, A Million Dreams, Falafelandia, Uwuguaya

The Ledona wrote:Wayhay!!! Great to see the map get updated, and proud to be included ^^

It also coincided with me unlocking my capital city this morning too, so To'anu is truly official!

Ooooh congrats!!

Falafelandia, Uwuguaya, The Ledona

i nearly lost this- AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Falafelandia

Tiralta wrote:Hello folks and welcome to Map 2 Update 2: 2 Map 2 Update.

Thanks to everyone who waited on me doing this while I slowly had a breakdown, got a new job, and emerged from said breakdown with a to do list as tall as me that included things like "return the library book you borrowed in August 2022" and "map update when?". One of these things has been done now. I'd say the map update was at the expense of the library book, but the truth is I'm writing this at 10.30pm on a Tuesday and the local library is small and the only time it sees 10.30pm is when it's used as a voting centre for elections.

Speaking of elections, we have one going in Refugia right now! Vote on your device and receive a smug sense of contribution to democracy and a brand new Councillor of Culture! https://vote.calref.ca/vote/53

Anyway, on to the updates.

We have had our very first Map 2 victim! Goodbye Nea Ellada, and with them, the Olympian culture. Will that space become the new Cursed Island? Only time will tell.

The members of WESLR have been busy decorating and building extensions to the houses known as their nations. Waywards Edge has had an expansion across the area now named by her as "The Strait of Colours". Estebere has also looked deep within their heart and seen the truth, and in doing so is bringing the Potato culture over from Map 1 to spread to Map 2.

We also have more neighbours now! Exciting times, and the map is looking much fuller than it did before. I think we've roughly doubled the number of nations for this update. Welcome to:

[list][*]Ansgar who has also founded the Ansgarian culture.

[*]Uwuguaya bringing us the Uwuguayan culture.

[*]Slaggstone Bruntt and The Gifted culture.

[*]Falafelandia and the Judeo-Refugi culture.

[*]Ridmona joining the pre-existing Leonean culture.

[*]Paraxium who has started the Paraxian culture.

[*]Nollyland who has taken inspiration from Map 1 to bring the Portuguese culture to Map 2.

[*]Altruismia and the Altruism culture.

[*]New Atlantic and the Atlantean culture.

[*]The Ledona who has founded the Ledonan culture.

[*]Thingessness who is the founder of the mysterious sounding Things.[/list]

You can view the changes here, any strongly worded letters should be sent by carrier pigeon to "Max Barry" (this is definitely my real name and I will 100% receive such messages).

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1853620

Where can I buy a carrier pigeon?

Also, Was the previous WA proposal ruled Illegal? I see it has been replaced by a new one, a repeal, in which I have found no blatant faults and was happy to vote "For."

Tiralta, Falafelandia, Jazur, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire

Delta Vega Iv wrote:Where can I buy a carrier pigeon?

Also, Was the previous WA proposal ruled Illegal? I see it has been replaced by a new one, a repeal, in which I have found no blatant faults and was happy to vote "For."

Looks like World Assembly Merch passed with 55.6% in favour.

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Portmanteau, Falafelandia, Jazur, Uwuguaya, Thingessness

Tiralta wrote:[spoiler=Ah, finally, hooray!]Hello folks and welcome to Map 2 Update 2: 2 Map 2 Update.

Thanks to everyone who waited on me doing this while I slowly had a breakdown, got a new job, and emerged from said breakdown with a to do list as tall as me that included things like "return the library book you borrowed in August 2022" and "map update when?". One of these things has been done now. I'd say the map update was at the expense of the library book, but the truth is I'm writing this at 10.30pm on a Tuesday and the local library is small and the only time it sees 10.30pm is when it's used as a voting centre for elections.

Speaking of elections, we have one going in Refugia right now! Vote on your device and receive a smug sense of contribution to democracy and a brand new Councillor of Culture! https://vote.calref.ca/vote/53

Anyway, on to the updates.

We have had our very first Map 2 victim! Goodbye Nea Ellada, and with them, the Olympian culture. Will that space become the new Cursed Island? Only time will tell.

The members of WESLR have been busy decorating and building extensions to the houses known as their nations. Waywards Edge has had an expansion across the area now named by her as "The Strait of Colours". Estebere has also looked deep within their heart and seen the truth, and in doing so is bringing the Potato culture over from Map 1 to spread to Map 2.

We also have more neighbours now! Exciting times, and the map is looking much fuller than it did before. I think we've roughly doubled the number of nations for this update. Welcome to:

[list][*]Ansgar who has also founded the Ansgarian culture.

[*]Uwuguaya bringing us the Uwuguayan culture.

[*]Slaggstone Bruntt and The Gifted culture.

[*]Falafelandia and the Judeo-Refugi culture.

[*]Ridmona joining the pre-existing Leonean culture.

[*]Paraxium who has started the Paraxian culture.

[*]Nollyland who has taken inspiration from Map 1 to bring the Portuguese culture to Map 2.

[*]Altruismia and the Altruism culture.

[*]New Atlantic and the Atlantean culture.

[*]The Ledona who has founded the Ledonan culture.

[*]Thingessness who is the founder of the mysterious sounding Things.[/list]

You can view the changes here, any strongly worded letters should be sent by carrier pigeon to "Max Barry" (this is definitely my real name and I will 100% receive such messages).

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1853620[/spoiler]

Thank you <3

Tiralta, Falafelandia, Jazur

What do you call the leader of the New Atlantic? (Example: King, Emperor, President, Lord, Prime Minister Ect.)

Falafelandia, Jazur, Uwuguaya

There was probably a better way to do this, but this is a cool guide I made! (Note, this does not break the RNA, as I am staying totally neutral!)

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1885741

The Star Enpire, Jazur, Uwuguaya

Nashfilla wrote:There was probably a better way to do this, but this is a cool guide I made! (Note, this does not break the RNA, as I am staying totally neutral!)

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1885741

Oh wow, my political freedom is much worse than I realized, looks like there are some dark days ahead for the Starnian people...

Typica, Jazur, Tidelia, Uwuguaya, Nashfilla

Greetings fellow Refugi nations :)

This is Noweyr's first official board communication - Written by the current country leader, Nowanin Particulah.

In light of the economic challenges we have grappled with as a relatively new nation, our capacity for communication has been somewhat limited. Nonetheless, we do feel welcome and happy to take part in this most leftful and warm region.

It is regretful that this first foray into public relationships concerns a matter in which we are insofar ignorant, and a plea for assistance, as opposed to a more merry introduction of sorts - We hope this esteemed council can overlook our silence thus far.

Without more preamble, I shall refer to the aforementioned plea.

After resolving the Issue #1556: "Gimme Shelter", which delves into how women's shelters should operate in regards to trans women, the talking point in the nation is stated as follows: "Arguments about toilet seats being left up or down get surprisingly heated."

Frankly, we find such declarations appalling, and regressive - Almost opposing the sentiment held by the issue resolution.

How would one go about changing, or influencing such talking points? Has such a discussion taken place before?

And lastly, are these the adequate forums to conduct such discussions?

Many thanks and warm regards,

Nowanin Particulah, Noweyrian representative.

A Million Dreams, Falafelandia, Jazur, The Merinos, Estebere, Uwuguaya, Ansgar, Boxiia, Penocampt, The Ledona

Time to speedrun reading 130 pages

Edit: I did it

Chacapoya, Typica, Tiralta, A Million Dreams, Falafelandia, Jazur, Uwuguaya, Penocampt

Assembled with Dot's Region Saver.
Written by Refuge Isle.