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Region: Refugia
It's so nice to have you all here! Theres a lot of great information in the welcome telegram youve already received, but I have a few things that might help settling into the region easier. Refugia is part of a larger community named Calamity Refuge, or CalRef. We have a discord here: https://calref.network/chat/ and a forum here: https://calref.cc/index.php. Links for both are in the region description box at the top of this page. We host game nights and movie nights from the discord server from time to time. On the forum we have RPs and spam games (not really related to NS). If you want a place to just chill and talk to friendly people, those are great spaces for that.
If you haven't already done so, please consider joining the World Assembly and endorsing the delegate (that's me!). Click the link to learn more information on what that means and how to do it. If you join the World Assembly, you can endorse as many other nations in the region as you want, and get endorsed in return. You'll also become a Refugia Member State, which means you can vote in our elections and get a spot on our map of Refugia!
If you have any questions, please let us know. Everyone here is really friendly- I think weve only ever had one fatality from an introduction. If you prefer to read something pre-written over asking, however, check out this dispatch: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1449847
Finally, if you are an alt nation (which just means if the nation tagged in this welcome message is not your main nation on NationStates), it is required by regional law for you to report your main nation and intentions in Refugia to the Operations Councillor (that's A Million Dreams!) Thanks so much.
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Ullrani, Eldri, Fadnesia, Greaterburg
pls help me. over 150 new mesagges
Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Eldri
Very well, here's another!
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Ullrani
and don´t forget to sign up on snake rights ;D
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Tiralta
Post self-deleted by Eldri.
I'm creating the story for the Duchy of Eldri, I gave up the Theocracy of Eldri
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Tiralta
Hello
Typica, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Ullrani
Hello
Tiralta
Reading through it this morning, I'm most concerned by 2.b.iii:
Ensure that all artworks being loaned to the gallery are of a reasonable size, moral decency, and have not been illegally or immorally sourced.
Firstly because there is plenty of art that is tiny, and in my opinion, more impressive for being tiny, but secondly because moral decency is too much of a gray area for me as it can vary between nations. For a bland example, one nation may have art that glorifies war, which I would find immoral, so how is it decided whose morality is correct? Even though it would ban plenty of things I think we can all agree on, there are too many things which nations could disagree over.
While I agree broadly with the intention to support the arts, I think I'll have to vote against on this one.
Delta Vega Iv, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Ullrani
I'm concerned about 2.b.iv:
"If a piece becomes impossible..."
"A piece" is not defined anywhere in the resolution and it is unclear a piece of what is being discussed here. Especially since the PIECE is defined elsewhere as something else.
Sorry, all these catchy acronyms are a cause for more confusion than clarification In My Humble Opinion.
Cheesy Tots, Refuge Isle, Tiralta
And regarding the issue of Snakes and Spiders:
Snakes are sneaky and should be banned. Spiders, on the other hand, are responsible for the World Wide Web!
Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, St Leone, Tiralta, Prodigal
i think snakes should be respected for what they are. and they help getting rid of rodents.
Delta Vega Iv
but rodents are chill
not if they ruin your crop
Delta Vega Iv
better than the locusts eating all your crops
id still love my snakes around
Delta Vega Iv
id rather have a couple of species of rodents, as they could live here
Animals should have the ability to apply for citizenship in general, methinks... That's the policy in Amiyoka.
Of course, their criminal record would need to be examined before getting accepted.
Delta Vega Iv
Snakes are admirable for their intelligence, but the metaphorical and spiritual context behind them is what makes me iffy to go near them. I'm not saying I hate them, all I'm saying is that I'd prefer to admire them from a distance.
Delta Vega Iv, Typica
Spiders are pretty chill, they're just trying to survive like everyone else
Delta Vega Iv, Typica
Prodigal doesn't necessarily have those types of animal rights, but all animals can be service workers for certain people if trained properly.
Amiyoka
spider give me the creeps.
(thanks to my Arachnophobia)
Delta Vega Iv, Prodigal
I used to have the absolute WORST arachnophobia, I would fall out of my chair if a saw a picture of one pop up. But in time, I learned to just observe them and I realized that they're really cool animals, their webs, behaviors, and routines. They may seem small and creepy, but most fish in the ocean look like aliens. If I can get over the weirdness of some aquatic life, I could become comfortable co-existing with our eight legged friends.
All you gotta worry about is not scaring the spider itself :D
Delta Vega Iv, Tiralta
i don´t get scared when i see a picture of them but i do get scared when it is not a picture
Tiralta, Prodigal
I get that friend :D Especially when it disappears lol I still get mini heart attacks sometimes lol. Brown Recluses are no joke when it comes to venom.
Typica, Tiralta
question is Sealand a country? (it is)
Waywards Edge, Amiyoka
Can a country exist on a rusty British anti-aircraft platform? (it has more stability that the British government)
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, St Leone, Remnants Of The Pacific, Tiralta, The Pacific Northwest, Waywards Edge, Prodigal
lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
if I could t!rep you here, I would xD
Typica, Sylh Alanor, Junitaki-Cho, Remnants Of The Pacific, Tiralta
Wow I leave for a few months and I can now endorse 345 nations... or I somehow left the world assembly
Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Liphia, Tiralta, Prodigal
I think inactivity can get you booted, but i'm not sure about that, I do know that Refugia has been growing by the day.
Nope, a big surge of people joined from TikTok, so there was quite a boom in Refugi.
time flies by when you forget to answer your NS issues
Typica
from tiktok? what do you mean?
Prodigal
A TikTok video about NS went viral, so that made a lot of people get the game
Prodigal
I would also like to inquire
Wow. A platform that has so much influence it can make a text based role playing game popular
What did I miss? Im asking because there is a lot of notifications.
sealand
What the hell does that mean?
look it up
Sealand=life
I know about the country its off the coast of Britain but what do you mean
Sleeper activity can get you booted, but that requires you never being active in the region. Remnants, who has been active, dropped their WA and rejoined, so they have to re-endorse all the people.
Typica, Tiralta, Prodigal
well I didnt leave the WA willingly so now I have to pay the price for leaving ns
Typica, Sylh Alanor
I know about the country what the f*ck does it have to do with the over a hundred notifications though
It happens. Yeah we had a large spike in new nations and have been doing our best to integrate people and keep activities rolling so they're interested. We also just had an election which is exciting.
Typica, Tiralta, Prodigal
I'm saying to look at the chat, not look it up... oh god i accidently added it. I meant "look up" as in look up in the chat. I feel so dumb.
Oh and there was a whole think about snakes and rights
Let me guess Commutia am I right?
communtia
Figured well there my ally so snakes rights i guess does that mean we can no longer use them in our human sacrifices or do they have to be made priests
Typica, Sylh Alanor
King Ian the 13th has officially come of age all ambassadors to the kingdom are invited to the royal palace to take part in the coronation and feast guards will be all through out the palace and the reserve army will be marching through the capital to ensure the former incident does not repeat itself special rights will be given to the Hans corporations ambassador as well as the Commutian ambassador
The Han Corporation Coalition
WE has decided to send the highest current rank in the country, and that appears to be the Senior Ambassador.
Honestly, Refugia's message board always has something interesting to talk about.
Sylh Alanor, Tiralta, Anatopen
ain't my first rodeo there
first meme conversation I had really was either the railgun or the WESLR thing. Maybe something else, but I'd rather not say, because they got banned shortly after.
Anatopen
The senior ambassador will be greeted at the docks and escorted to the palace by the royal guard they shall wait in the royal courtyard until the other ambassadors have arrived and then the ceremony shall begin
That is the divine truth isn't it well at least thats a good thing
Prodigal, Wolfielandia
Aw, we can mention the Fruit War, it's fine and saying that it happened has never been the problem. It's just that immediately after, when we were all pretty heartbroken over banning someone who'd been a friend for a few years, seeing "haha we won the other side got banned" was what we wanted to avoid cause losing a friend wasn't ever something we wanted to see celebrated.
But talking about the Fruit War, saying we had fun, or that it was an important event to a lot of us, that's fine, and it's all good to acknowledge the nice stuff. ^^
Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Portmanteau
Within the hour the coronation will began the lack of appearance of multiple nations has been noted not that it is surprising considering the kingdoms isolationist nature
Commutia
Oh, I just thought I that some people would still be heartbroken, and I didn't want to be rude to those people.
Was pretty fun overall though.
Tiralta
Amiyokan journalists have been depressed due to the limited availability of news feed from Anatopen concerning the coronation.
Amiyoka
Amiyoka will be selecting only our most trusted journalists, who are very experienced at this sort of job!
The coronation is now occurring for the fist time in history foreign journalists are allowed in the royal court during the ceremony many traditionalist are furious and blame the king(Im considering putting details of the coronation in a factbook if you want to learn what the journalists saw let me know and I will make a factbook on it)
Our foreign relations officers can telegram you the details of the news recorded by the journalists, give us a bit to collect the information.
Many Amiyokans watching the news can see the obvious anger of the Anatopen citizens, and are anxious at the anger of the Anatopians. The journalists have made sure to remove all flash photography, and are attempting to follow the rules as close as possible out of respect for Anatopian culture.
Anatopen
A group of army commanders veterans of the civil war left the ceremony early many could hear them say we fought to preserve our traditions not to destroy them
We will give time for the telegram and we thank you for trying to respect our traditions many hardliners dont seem to be less angered though
Amiyoka
Amiyokan journalists have left after seeing the draining crowd to avoid any tension between Amiyoka and Anatopen, for the journalism was an attempt to grow closer to the nation's culture and its people. Amiyokan citizens are respectful of the footage, and many news presses are requesting the government to request which footage the officials of Anatopen would like us to display on the news. The news editing has commenced, and the Foreign Managing sector of the Parliament is preparing to send the footage to Anatopenian officials!
Anatopen
The king will consult the Naltesaz (our parliament) before making a decision on what footage can be released
A group of civil war veterans have surrounded the royal palace in protest many insult the current monarch, advisory council, and government in general one political group the Order of the White Elephant appears to be leading the protest
Dock workers have refused to make the ships ready for the journalists to leave in response the king has his personal ship take them back to their homeland
The Naltesaz has deliberated and declared that all footage can be released to the public upon the condition that the most important artifacts be blurred from the footage and their names be censored
Do you agree to the terms of the Naltesaz
Amiyoka
The Anatopen-Commutian League has been established any nation is allowed to apply for membership however both Anatopen and Commutia must approve of them before they can join the alliance
Commutia
A member of the Order of the White Elephant has committed ritual suicide in protest to the kings actions regarding the coronation (the member was the prime minister)
What is happening right now?
Possibly Anatopen civil war part 2 attack of the nationalists
Alliances are formed
Anatopen
please try holding togther for one second
Anatopen
Thank you for inviting us to the thing
Anatopen
Dont worry it was a joke maybe
Your welcome trade partners are always given special treatment
The prime minister committed ritual suicide in protest of government actions and an ultra nationalist group is criticizing the government so yeah maybe a joke maybe not
Yeah i can see why they might rebel again
Anatopen
Was it the part 2 joke or the whole thing about nationalist protests
I promise my country is usually very stable (fires from the previous civil war are still burning in the background)
do you need some stability pills?
Anatopen
I swear Im stable (riot noises heard in the background)
i swear you are the aquivalent of the "this is fine" meme.
Anatopen
But my country is fine . Wait hold on another public official commuted ritual suicide need to figure out there job
It was a general veteran of the civil war
i know what you must do.
make suicide illigal
Anatopen
But in my culture ritual suicide is not only acceptable but revered as honorable
then why is it making people riot?
Chief diplomat was assassinated by a ultra nationalist in protest of his actions his plea is that he did so for the good of the kingdom as such he has been released from police custody (if you couldnt tell Im a lot like japan in the 1940s)
Oh they riot against government actions in support of the general who commuted suicide
Anatopen politics everyone
you probaply should try reworking them...
Anatopen
My countrys definition of stable is pretty much anything besides armed rebellion
I wouldnt blame them for protesting about your government
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Written by Refuge Isle.