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Azelandia wrote:Doesnt anyone else feel like having alternate accounts is... disingenuous to the game.

True

Kaelim, Zabruhmoment Of Vehemesht, Dimm-A-Land, West Boad Osbaaketh

Delta Vega Iv wrote:NationStates is a role-playing game. Just like I can play many different games and play a different nation in each one, no reason not to do that in NS

Yeah, it just adds more to the experience to RP two different nations

Sylh Alanor, Floofybit, Portmanteau, Tiralta, New Ras

Zabruhmoment Of Vehemesht wrote:well because Nationstates is like a real world...

having ALTERNATE accounts is like also addding that weird country to the world

If that doesn't make sense, then let me show you that 1 person can't rule 2 countries (unless united countries of course)

The way I see it only WA nations count. Those are the “real” countries. The side nations don’t really interact with anything.

Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Portmanteau, New Ras

Yo, just joined lel

Cheesy Tots, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Huliunov, Zabruhmoment Of Vehemesht, Dimm-A-Land, Ochio

Azelandia wrote:Doesnt anyone else feel like having alternate accounts is... disingenuous to the game.

The Pacific Northwest wrote:The way I see it only WA nations count. Those are the “real” countries. The side nations don’t really interact with anything.

Friendly disagree! Like yeah, Tiralta is in the WA but I pretty much only interact with that to vote and 99% of the time it's along Refugi lines cause I don't particularly put a lot of effort into thinking about or understanding WA stuff.

In terms of gameplay, I'm primarily an issues player so the way I see it, all those non-WA nations are really important to my experience cause they affect my badges. A bunch of retired alt accounts or even just non-WA single account players CTEing can push a "just barely 1%" ranking that I have back down to 2 or 3%, so it's motivation to really keep trying to get into the top 1500 or so and not just settle for just about getting the badge on my profile.

On a much smaller level I collect cards, and there are definitely some cool collections of people's alt series but also multiple alts dedicated to themed collections that have massive values combined. Cards are a huge part of NationStates for a lot of people!

And of course, I'm a big fan of our community here so I can't forget the people who are heavily involved in R/D in other regions but create alts just to hang out here in Refugia and be really cool people - it means so much to me that they choose us even if it's not for gameplay reasons and I've made some lovely friends through that <3

WA can be so important for roleplaying, for core NS lore and for R/D, but alt nations bring so much to the game for other play styles and make this game so varied and fun! So while I understand your point, I have to respectfully disagree with it :)

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Portmanteau, Aephony, Jazur, Parvesha, New Ras

National Commonwealth Of Korea wrote:Yo, just joined lel

hello

welcome to nationstates and refugia!

The Pacific Northwest wrote:The way I see it only WA nations count. Those are the “real” countries. The side nations don’t really interact with anything.

You have a point. Although like @Tiralta, I'm not much of a WA guy

Floofybit

How do I join the map

Floofybit, Istastioner, Zabruhmoment Of Vehemesht, Dimm-A-Land

Shearwater Island wrote:How do I join the map

be a member state - world assembly and be in refugia 7+ days

then send application form to sylh alanor

it is in refugia map desc

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Polushia, Jazur, Dimm-A-Land

Shearwater Island wrote:How do I join the map

Read the pinned map dispatch, it has all the information you need! Vehemesht nailed the information, but there might always be more in there.

Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Polushia, Istastioner, Jazur, Parvesha, Zabruhmoment Of Vehemesht

Delta Vega Iv wrote:I do not underestand why.

More-so what is the fun of the map and having land, or making alliances with other nations if you could just make three more nations. Or having throw away nations just to see what the answers say for different things. It skews stats as well for both the region and the world.

Floofybit, Polushia, Dimm-A-Land

Azelandia wrote:More-so what is the fun of the map and having land, or making alliances with other nations if you could just make three more nations. Or having throw away nations just to see what the answers say for different things. It skews stats as well for both the region and the world.

To get on our map, sign treaties, take part in regional votes, or run in council elections, your nation has to either be in the World Assembly or has to be voted as an exemption by the Councillors. You can only have one nation as a member state too. So alt nations don't typically influence these things, the main exception to this is people who have alt nations but are heavily involved in the Refugi community. It's worth noting that many councillors (past and present), as well as other active Refugi, have been alts of people whose WA nation is in a different region for various reasons. "Alt nation" doesn't immediately equal "not contributing" or "negative contribution".

We have a bot that Refuge Isle created, Dot, who keeps track of the member state lists and if someone stops being a member (e.g. they leave the region, CTE or resign from the WA) on our Discord, so the only non-WA member states on the map now are either nations which currently contribute to our community, or who were vital in founding and building it but have since ceased to exist.

In terms of clicking random things just to see what happens, that can also be helpful for everyone else! The website that you'll see posted on this message board sometimes that helps people answer issues and have a rough idea of how it could affect their own stats is pulled from data from previous answers, including by these alt nations. If there were none of them, then some of the more rarely chosen answers would be harder to have an idea of their effect before picking them.

It is perfectly fine to play with only one nation and enjoy it, but alt nations aren't purposeless server-hogs which contribute nothing by any means.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Portmanteau, Polushia, Jazur, Parvesha, Zabruhmoment Of Vehemesht

There are many reasons to have multiple accounts

1) You are in multiple regions

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For example, I'm also a one of the leaders in The Order Of The Grey Wardens, as Lucabaduka, just as I've helped out in a number of other regions over the years, like The East Pacific and The South Pacific. This is my main nation, and Refugia is my home region, but I can also work and other places when I have time.

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2) You are involved in military gameplay

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When NationStates updates its database, it works like a scanner that sweeps across all the regions of a world in a predetermined order. Raiders will try to seize a region at the exact moment a scanner hits, and defenders try to stop them. Once the scanner hits your nation, it cannot be used again in a military operation for another 12 hours. So having many puppet nations to switch your WA membership between is required to accomplish anything. To that end, I have over 1,500 accounts, some of which are in this dispatch.

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In Refugia, I put a lot of thought into how to balance puppet nations and still grow our region when I made this place. The primary metric that we're interested in is World Assembly nations, because one player can only have one World Assembly nation. So the more World Assembly nations, the more verifiable humans we have, the more votes we have in the World Assembly, the more influence we can generate. To that end, ability to vote, run for office, get on the map, etc, are all tied to WA membership. This is not only to encourage real human players to stay here, but to make sure that one person always equates to one vote and no one can game the system.

But we're still sympathetic to the idea of players from other regions who want to live and work here as well, but cannot commit their WA nation, either because they are a delegate who cannot move, they're active in military gameplay, or they have been banned from the World Assembly. This is why WA exemptions were created, because we value the contributions from those people as well, and support their drive to be here.

Nothing about any of that is disingenuous or bad faith, or what have you. Different people have different preferences on how to play on NationStates, and our role is to come up with a good balance that's fair for everyone. I think we've done alright at it.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Azelandia, Jazur, Parvesha

Melenavenia wrote:Now that I've completed my Meihua trading card collection (with the generous gifts or sales of several nice people) should I start collecting Forest, Yggdrasil, or Canada?

I'm currently still collecting Spiritus cards.

Nice. It's fun to attempt to collect a full series of something, like that, though I've not attempted to collect an entire large region, myself. I vote for Canada.

By the by, I'd not come across Meihua before. Seems like it was a pretty cool place. They've got an impressive theme and aesthetic. And their regional map is simply beautiful.

Typica, Melenavenia, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur, Parvesha, Zabruhmoment Of Vehemesht

Chazrachia wrote:just wanna say sorry, apparently i sell weapons to terrorist groups abroad

The domestic terrorist groups in the Chacapoyan Free State thank you.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Floofybit, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Parvesha, Chazrachia, Zabruhmoment Of Vehemesht

Chazrachia wrote:just wanna say sorry, apparently i sell weapons to terrorist groups abroad

I mean, most of my country's funding goes into technology now, so...

Sylh Alanor, Floofybit, Tiralta, Chazrachia

Refuge Isle wrote:There are many reasons to have multiple accounts

1) You are in multiple regions

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For example, I'm also a one of the leaders in The Order Of The Grey Wardens, as Lucabaduka, just as I've helped out in a number of other regions over the years, like The East Pacific and The South Pacific. This is my main nation, and Refugia is my home region, but I can also work and other places when I have time.

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2) You are involved in military gameplay

[list]

When NationStates updates its database, it works like a scanner that sweeps across all the regions of a world in a predetermined order. Raiders will try to seize a region at the exact moment a scanner hits, and defenders try to stop them. Once the scanner hits your nation, it cannot be used again in a military operation for another 12 hours. So having many puppet nations to switch your WA membership between is required to accomplish anything. To that end, I have over 1,500 accounts, some of which are in this dispatch.

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In Refugia, I put a lot of thought into how to balance puppet nations and still grow our region when I made this place. The primary metric that we're interested in is World Assembly nations, because one player can only have one World Assembly nation. So the more World Assembly nations, the more verifiable humans we have, the more votes we have in the World Assembly, the more influence we can generate. To that end, ability to vote, run for office, get on the map, etc, are all tied to WA membership. This is not only to encourage real human players to stay here, but to make sure that one person always equates to one vote and no one can game the system.

But we're still sympathetic to the idea of players from other regions who want to live and work here as well, but cannot commit their WA nation, either because they are a delegate who cannot move, they're active in military gameplay, or they have been banned from the World Assembly. This is why WA exemptions were created, because we value the contributions from those people as well, and support their drive to be here.

Nothing about any of that is disingenuous or bad faith, or what have you. Different people have different preferences on how to play on NationStates, and our role is to come up with a good balance that's fair for everyone. I think we've done alright at it.

That makes sense but what is the system for monitoring that one person only has one WA vote? The honor system?

Typica

Azelandia wrote:That makes sense but what is the system for monitoring that one person only has one WA vote? The honor system?

Fortunately for me, the responsibility of enforcing that is on NationStates moderators. They have scripts that use a variety of methods to make sure that only one WA account is active per person, including IP addresses, device IDs, activity patterns, and more. Nations that violate the rules are automatically ejected and sometimes WA-banned for breaking those rules when those scripts run.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Parvesha, Geoffistan

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1747915

IFV DROPPED! Like, comment, subscribe, and upvote if you like it! :3

Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Istastioner, Parvesha, Geoffistan, Dimm-A-Land

Cheesy Tots wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1747915

IFV DROPPED! Like, comment, subscribe, and upvote if you like it! :3

Updoot provided :)

Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Jazur, Parvesha, Geoffistan

Moulk2, Winlandy

Potato comrades, what if we formed an interregional pact which established free trade across our borders for any potato-related products? owo

The Salaxalans, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Araine, Floofybit, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, Parvesha, Zabruhmoment Of Vehemesht, Dimm-A-Land, Free South Carolina

Cheesy Tots wrote:Moulk2, Winlandy

Potato comrades, what if we formed an interregional pact which established free trade across our borders for any potato-related products? owo

Of it makes us some Dimm-A-Dollars then sure :) of course our potatoes are 90% rice packed to look like a potato and to increase profits

Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Floofybit, Portmanteau

Portmanteau wrote:By the by, I'd not come across Meihua before. Seems like it was a pretty cool place. They've got an impressive theme and aesthetic. And their regional map is simply beautiful.

I collected cards for their region because at the time I started it they were one of our embassies, but unfortunately, the region died.

Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, Parvesha

Cheesy Tots wrote:Moulk2, Winlandy

Potato comrades, what if we formed an interregional pact which established free trade across our borders for any potato-related products? owo

This is starting to sound like Spiritus... traitors!!!! (jk)

The Salaxalans, Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Portmanteau, Jazur, Parvesha

Melenavenia wrote:This is starting to sound like Spiritus... traitors!!!! (jk)

The Salaxalans would be proud of us :hyper:

The Salaxalans, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Portmanteau, Jazur, Parvesha

I got exactly 50% of the Canada S2 trading cards in my first round of bidding. Only had to out-bid someone on a few cards. I think that is a satisfying start.

Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Portmanteau, Jazur, Parvesha

If you see a card you own on this list and you are willing to sell, please do! I am of course willing to negotiate a price if you're looking for a better deal. https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1748576

Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Portmanteau, Jazur, Parvesha

There is nothing more that I hate than choosing a solution to an issue without fully thinking of the scope of said solution, and then realizing it did something you absolutely didn't want. I am struggling :)

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, Zabruhmoment Of Vehemesht, Dimm-A-Land, American Peoples Democracy, Spoolistan, Faelland

weaponization up by 452% isn't that fantastic? What could possibly go wrong here in Dimm-A-Land

Delta Vega Iv, Floofybit, Portmanteau, Kaelim, Jazur, New Ras

Refuge Isle wrote:Fortunately for me, the responsibility of enforcing that is on NationStates moderators. They have scripts that use a variety of methods to make sure that only one WA account is active per person, including IP addresses, device IDs, activity patterns, and more. Nations that violate the rules are automatically ejected and sometimes WA-banned for breaking those rules when those scripts run.

Thank you for the polite information, for me I think it more fun to have one nation and build alliance's with my fellow Refugi. Thank you for having me in this region.

Long may it reign!

Delta Vega Iv, Floofybit, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, Parvesha, New Ras, Rejakhta, Zabruhmoment Of Vehemesht

Sylh Alanor wrote:Welcome Lukkovschina, Lugaw, Gerberia, Nft_World, Baluthe_Setistan, National_Commonwealth_Of_Korea, Eteid_Baker, Shearwater_Island, Willandia_Ii, The_Former_Leninist_Republic_Of_Turkiye, Syrzenlathe, Bad_Management, Kcanobia, Coolguyia, Pthumeru, Thebectes_Frenis, Lands_Yorp, The_North_Baltic, The_North_Seas_Nation, West_Remeshile, The_Renounced, Articmonkey, Natnuja, Gaimerly, Sovines, West_Boad_Osbaaketh, Barakor, American_Peoples_Democracy, Goofy_Ahhh_Republic, New_Bievian, Cliffs_Donnelly, Byrap, Free_South_Carolina, Based_Socialist_States_Of_America, Jamisia, Beaumonte, Sciu_Ros, Binoor, Xpert_Kingdom, Equity, Chapakistan, Katlandian, Panitalvin, Eringe, Southern_Natioutz, Mintevine, North_Afraland_Clobillishi, Landiaistan, The_Republic_Of_Theloniki, Stephens, Etanistania, United_Ambican, Falben, Pat_Park, Kriesse, Saln_Ster, Bonyolult, Felleus, Amerikie, Rebulic_Of_Salvador, Polish_Federacja, Boccea, Kaz_Lan_Tayosia, Makaena, Urkadolic, Inner_Arand_Larsivex, Blansey, Lover_Central, Portsbugstown, Godiva_Republic, Ewigegemeinschaft, Soly_Booland, Dazedandconfused, Waga, Arrucharn, The_New_New_York_And_Ottawa_United, The_Blue_Marble, Baliast, Southern_Theria, Wes_Isols, Maha_Koskada, Oprella, Monats_Komesic, Tein_Topitlaopia, Kinchted, Titup, Communist_Reborn_3, Scondinia, Swizilia, Skivv, Argicula, United_States_Of_Kildern, New_Comelve_Fard, Spoolistan, and Natone_Therd to Refugia!

It's so nice to have you all here! There’s a lot of great information in the welcome telegram you’ve already received, but I have a few things that might help settling into the region easier. Refugia is part of a larger community named Calamity Refuge, or CalRef. We have a discord here: https://calref.network/chat/ and a forum here: https://calref.cc/index.php. Links for both are in the region description box at the top of this page. We host game nights and movie nights from the discord server from time to time. On the forum we have RPs and spam games (not really related to NS). If you want a place to just chill and talk to friendly people, those are great spaces for that.

If you haven't already done so, please consider joining the World Assembly and endorsing the delegate (that's me!). Click the link to learn more information on what that means and how to do it. If you join the World Assembly, you can endorse as many other nations in the region as you want, and get endorsed in return. You'll also become a Refugia Member State, which means you can vote in our elections and get a spot on our map of Refugia!

If you have any questions, please let us know. Everyone here is really friendly- I think we’ve only ever had one fatality from an introduction. If you prefer to read something pre-written over asking, however, check out this dispatch: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1449847

Finally, if you are an alt nation (which just means if the nation tagged in this welcome message is not your main nation on NationStates), it is required by regional law for you to report your main nation and intentions in Refugia to the Operations Councillor (that's also me!). Thanks so much.

Typica, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, Parvesha, Bonyolult

hello

Sylh Alanor, Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur, Parvesha

Icotas wrote:hello

Hello there!

Sylh Alanor, Floofybit, Tiralta, Kaelim, Jazur, Parvesha

Icotas wrote:hello

suh

Floofybit, Jazur, Parvesha

Icotas wrote:hello

hello :D

Sylh Alanor, Floofybit, Jazur, Huliunov, Parvesha

Azelandia wrote:More-so what is the fun of the map and having land, or making alliances with other nations if you could just make three more nations. Or having throw away nations just to see what the answers say for different things. It skews stats as well for both the region and the world.

I never have 2 nations on the same map, and each nation (of my active ones) resides in a different region and makes alliances with nations in its own region.

I don't need throw away nations to see what the answers are. There is a whole webpage full of all answers to all issues, in case I'd like to know in adnace and be "spoilered." Once you play NS long enough (I've been playing it on and off for more than 10 years now), you already know all the issues anyway.

I'm not saying having more than one nation is necessarily a good thing for everyone, but I believe the option should be there.

Floofybit, Tiralta, Huliunov, Parvesha

Icotas wrote:hello

hello

Sylh Alanor, Floofybit, Tiralta

That's a big influx of new nations!

Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta

Rejakhta wrote:Hello there!

General Kenobi. You are a bold one.

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Floofybit, Jazur, Rejakhta

Whats everyone's favorite breakfast food ? :) I'm an oatmeal person

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur, Parvesha, Ochio

Dimm-A-Land wrote:Whats everyone's favorite breakfast food ? :) I'm an oatmeal person

French toast, no question

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur, Parvesha, Zabruhmoment Of Vehemesht, Dimm-A-Land

Dimm-A-Land wrote:Whats everyone's favorite breakfast food ? :) I'm an oatmeal person

Cinnamon rolls are my ride or die

Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Porthosia, Jazur, Parvesha, Zabruhmoment Of Vehemesht, Dimm-A-Land

Now I want cinnamon rolls and French toast.  I make French toast once and in while with brioche bread

Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Porthosia, Jazur, Parvesha, Zabruhmoment Of Vehemesht, Amiyoka, Northern Arcadia

Dimm-A-Land wrote:Whats everyone's favorite breakfast food ? :) I'm an oatmeal person

I like eating veggie sandwiches

they taste pretty good ngl :/

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Porthosia, Jazur, Parvesha, Dimm-A-Land

Dimm-A-Land wrote:Whats everyone's favorite breakfast food ? :) I'm an oatmeal person

Tofu scramble breakfast burrito with potatoes :D

Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Porthosia, Jazur, Parvesha, Dimm-A-Land, Amiyoka

Dimm-A-Land wrote:Now I want cinnamon rolls and French toast.  I make French toast once and in while with brioche bread

Its even better with sourdough

Floofybit, Tiralta, Porthosia, Jazur, Dimm-A-Land

Dimm-A-Land wrote:Whats everyone's favorite breakfast food ? :) I'm an oatmeal person

Yesss oatmeal is the best (or porridge as we call it here!) I have it most mornings, usually with cinnamon and some berries or chopped apple.

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Porthosia, Jazur, Parvesha, Dimm-A-Land

Tiralta wrote:

Yesss oatmeal is the best (or porridge as we call it here!) I have it most mornings, usually with cinnamon and some berries or chopped apple.

Sounds delicious! Sometimes I put abit of peanut butter in mine just for the protein. Sliced apples with cinnamon oatmeal is the bomb

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Porthosia, Jazur, Parvesha

Dimm-A-Land wrote:Sounds delicious! Sometimes I put abit of peanut butter in mine just for the protein. Sliced apples with cinnamon oatmeal is the bomb

Peanut butter/almond butter and banana is another great porridge combo.

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Jazur, Parvesha, Dimm-A-Land

Cheesy Tots wrote:The Salaxalans would be proud of us :hyper:

Why yes I am! Muahaha

Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Porthosia, Jazur, Parvesha, Dimm-A-Land

Dimm-A-Land wrote:Whats everyone's favorite breakfast food ? :) I'm an oatmeal person

I have an egg sandwich with bread that I toast in the oven that I put olive oil on

EDIT: I should note the egg is a fried egg

Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Cadenzana, Tiralta, Jazur, Parvesha, Zabruhmoment Of Vehemesht

Porthosia wrote:I have an egg sandwich with bread that I toast in the oven that I put olive oil on

EDIT: I should note the egg is a fried egg

that sounds pretty good ngl

Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Porthosia, Jazur

just tryna do wut i can do get religion outta here

Porthosia, Jazur, Peoples Nature State

Chazrachia wrote:just tryna do wut i can do get religion outta here

why though

Sylh Alanor, Floofybit, Porthosia, Jazur, Dimm-A-Land

Inaros Opa wrote:General Kenobi. You are a bold one.

You just earned yourself an endorsement from me

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Floofybit, Inaros Opa, Porthosia, Jazur, Huliunov, Parvesha, Dimm-A-Land

Dimm-A-Land wrote:Whats everyone's favorite breakfast food ? :) I'm an oatmeal person

A fried egg on toast with ham is my go to quick-ish breakfast. I also *love* almond croissants.

Floofybit, Tiralta, Kaelim, Porthosia, Jazur, Dimm-A-Land

Dimm-A-Land wrote:Whats everyone's favorite breakfast food ? :) I'm an oatmeal person

i like pancakes and waffles

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Porthosia, Jazur, Parvesha, Dimm-A-Land

Dimm-A-Land wrote:Whats everyone's favorite breakfast food ? :) I'm an oatmeal person

Breakfast burritos, hands down.

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Porthosia, Jazur, Huliunov, Parvesha, Dimm-A-Land

Dimm-A-Land wrote:Whats everyone's favorite breakfast food ? :) I'm an oatmeal person

Coconut bread will always be my favorite

Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Haibaria, Tiralta, Porthosia, Jazur, Huliunov, Parvesha, Dimm-A-Land

Rejakhta wrote:You just earned yourself an endorsement from me

You are strong and wise, and I am very proud of you.

Dimm-A-Land wrote:Whats everyone's favorite breakfast food ? :) I'm an oatmeal person

probably a sandwich consisting of mayonnaise, coleslaw and tofu.

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Floofybit, Porthosia, Jazur, Dimm-A-Land

Dimm-A-Land wrote:Whats everyone's favorite breakfast food ? :) I'm an oatmeal person

Personally I like when I actually have the time to make it: Full Irish Breakfast

Though most of the time I'll just make a simple Sunny Side up Eggs with fruit and some bacon.

Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Kaelim, Porthosia, Jazur, Parvesha, Dimm-A-Land, Ochio

Zabruhmoment Of Vehemesht wrote:why though

religion corrupts.

Inaros Opa

Chazrachia wrote:religion corrupts.

Ehhhhh, let's not make blanket statements like that.

Chacapoya, Typica, Floofybit, Cadenzana, Tiralta, Porthosia, Jazur, Parvesha, New Ras, Waywards Edge, Ochio

Sylh Alanor wrote:Ehhhhh, let's not make blanket statements like that.

Simply answering a question, it would be rude not to answer honestly.

Ochio

first board post lets go baby

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Hoqeallistan, Porthosia, Jazur, Parvesha, Ochio

Dimm-A-Land wrote:Whats everyone's favorite breakfast food ? :) I'm an oatmeal person

i like bacon and cheese omelettes

Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Porthosia, Jazur, Dimm-A-Land, Ochio

Hello people of Refugia! Im Mars, a 15 year old gay person thing. Im Demiboy, Aceflux, Aromantic and Bisexual. My pronouns are they/them. I'm turkish/italian/greek. I love food.

Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Porthosia, Jazur, Parvesha, Waywards Edge, Ochio, Helecon

The Former Leninist Republic Of Turkiye wrote:Hello people of Refugia! Im Mars, a 15 year old gay person thing. Im Demiboy, Aceflux, Aromantic and Bisexual. My pronouns are they/them. I'm turkish/italian/greek. I love food.

Welcome to Refugia! It’s nice to meet you! I’m Fox, your friendly neighborhood enby :)

Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Porthosia, Jazur, Parvesha, Ochio

Dimm-A-Land wrote:Whats everyone's favorite breakfast food ? :) I'm an oatmeal person

Belgian waffles are the greatest thing in existence

Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Porthosia, Jazur, Parvesha, Dimm-A-Land

Short stuff today cuz I'm not in le best mood

But first here lies a discussion post on Repeal: "Commend Europeia"! Thread here.

The repeal starts off by asserting that Europeia should be considered commendable, but its current commendation has serious flaws. It then lists its arguments against the target resolution as follows:

[list][*]The "Status of Forces Agreements" the target proposal praising Europeia for helping to formulate with multiple regions did not lead to anything substantial.

[*]The target fails to elaborate properly on the Europeia's recruitment technologies that Europeia was commended for, alongside Europeia's political system.

[*]The target's focus on Europeia's media wrongly hones in on Europeia's impact on the interregional media scene, when Europeia’s media scene is only commendable in a different light.

[*]Europeia's World Assembly contributions as described by the target should also list specific individuals who helped generate Europeia's World-Assembly relevance via their individual authorships.

[*]Europeian archives, while notable, are not accessible to an average non-citizen.[/list]

Overall, I'm in support of the resolution. There is one inaccuracy as noted by TCB in that their current military is distinct and separate from whatever they had as part of the Agreements. However, this is a slight inaccuracy and not one I'm super holed up on, especially as this is a repeal in order to replace Commend Europeia with a newer, more well-written resolution (so I'm personally more lenient with the repeal in this case). The rest of the points are decent, in my opinion, which further dilutes the issue of the slight inaccuracy.

Therefore, I recommend voting FOR "Repeal: 'Commend Europeia'". But does anyone else have an opinion on this! If so, let us know - we wanna hear it ^-^

ALSO!

Mid-term Statement here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1749453

if u leik pls upvote, and if u have feedback on anything on the mid-term statement, feel free to comment!

Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Istastioner, Porthosia, Jazur, Parvesha

Do we have any forms of specialized transportation? Planes, Spacecraft, or other kinds of modes of Transit? I was thinking maybe a beacon system, "Ley Lines". Essentially, any nation that has a Ley Line Beacon has access to a hub, (Mass Effect, anyone?) perhaps in a Demilitarized Zone so armies can't attack through them. Ley Lines would serve a diplomatic purpose, as well as allowing freedom of travel to those involved in the project. If a crisis between nations would develop, Diplomats could easily travel through to attend diplomatic press conferences, in a neutral zone that is the equivalent to NYC or Geneva.

What are your thoughts? What is your favorite mode of transportation? Mine is trains.

Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Porthosia, Jazur, Parvesha, Zabruhmoment Of Vehemesht, Ochio, The Combined

FINALLY!! I BANNED NO EMMIGRATION!! NEXT ON THE LIST IS IMMIGRATION!!!

Porthosia

basically i dont know why i made my citizens prisoners but slowly they are becoming more free

Typica, Floofybit, Porthosia, Jazur

Sylh Alanor wrote:Welcome Werstoneland, Yuuzfric, Luonan, The_Genosis, Sadies, Timothus, Northern_Arcadia, The_New_England_Federation, Quinto, New_Odessey, Spudslyvania, Wighterle, Northern_Mars_Tribe, Helecon, Baka_Boys, North_Alexandria, Gilmorthy, Maradoniana, Faelland, Iraqistan, Universal_Advancement, Aako, Scandia_Nova, Pisuania, Walkawic, Comorkdo, Terrabat, Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa_Aaaaaaaaaaaa, Libidon, Panindiana, Thicc_Jeff, The_Isomarderes, Davidum, Ben_Largo, Atrellia, Peoples_Nature_State, Zanaza, The_Central_America_Republic, Aleja, Kubaskiandion, Idmonius, Allon_Tea_Erace, South_Spavinjic_Rifing, Nuthind, Cobranica, Arimesh, The_Combined, and Miaka to Refugia!

It's so nice to have you all here! There’s a lot of great information in the welcome telegram you’ve already received, but I have a few things that might help settling into the region easier. Refugia is part of a larger community named Calamity Refuge, or CalRef. We have a discord here: https://calref.network/chat/ and a forum here: https://calref.cc/index.php. Links for both are in the region description box at the top of this page. We host game nights and movie nights from the discord server from time to time. On the forum we have RPs and spam games (not really related to NS). If you want a place to just chill and talk to friendly people, those are great spaces for that.

If you haven't already done so, please consider joining the World Assembly and endorsing the delegate (that's me!). Click the link to learn more information on what that means and how to do it. If you join the World Assembly, you can endorse as many other nations in the region as you want, and get endorsed in return. You'll also become a Refugia Member State, which means you can vote in our elections and get a spot on our map of Refugia!

If you have any questions, please let us know. Everyone here is really friendly- I think we’ve only ever had one fatality from an introduction. If you prefer to read something pre-written over asking, however, check out this dispatch: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1449847

Finally, if you are an alt nation (which just means if the nation tagged in this welcome message is not your main nation on NationStates), it is required by regional law for you to report your main nation and intentions in Refugia to the Operations Councillor (that's also me!). Thanks so much.

Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Porthosia, Jazur, Parvesha

Waywards Edge wrote:"Ley Lines"

This nation has ley lines. But we call them flyways. And only the spirits can really access them safely. And certain animals, of course.

Waywards Edge wrote:What are your thoughts? What is your favorite mode of transportation? Mine is trains.

Trolley

Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Porthosia, Jazur

Hello

Sylh Alanor, Floofybit, Porthosia, Jazur

Waywards Edge wrote:Do we have any forms of specialized transportation? Planes, Spacecraft, or other kinds of modes of Transit? I was thinking maybe a beacon system, "Ley Lines". Essentially, any nation that has a Ley Line Beacon has access to a hub, (Mass Effect, anyone?) perhaps in a Demilitarized Zone so armies can't attack through them. Ley Lines would serve a diplomatic purpose, as well as allowing freedom of travel to those involved in the project. If a crisis between nations would develop, Diplomats could easily travel through to attend diplomatic press conferences, in a neutral zone that is the equivalent to NYC or Geneva.

What are your thoughts? What is your favorite mode of transportation? Mine is trains.

Planes and the vast majority of cars are banned in Tiralta. We have bicycles, and our favourite mass transport: trains. There are annual games to see how many train stations can be visited in 24 hours. For travelling to other places in Refugia we have boats that are powered by hydroelectricity.

To visit other regions we use the travel runes for the Refugi embassy there.

Ley lines could be a fun eco-friendly way to travel quickly within the region though!

Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Porthosia, Jazur, Parvesha

how do we get to the refugia map? like on it, if that makes sense

Jazur

Waywards Edge wrote:Do we have any forms of specialized transportation? Planes, Spacecraft, or other kinds of modes of Transit? I was thinking maybe a beacon system, "Ley Lines". Essentially, any nation that has a Ley Line Beacon has access to a hub, (Mass Effect, anyone?) perhaps in a Demilitarized Zone so armies can't attack through them. Ley Lines would serve a diplomatic purpose, as well as allowing freedom of travel to those involved in the project. If a crisis between nations would develop, Diplomats could easily travel through to attend diplomatic press conferences, in a neutral zone that is the equivalent to NYC or Geneva.

What are your thoughts? What is your favorite mode of transportation? Mine is trains.

Everyone in Rejakhta travels by bicycle, except for delegates. But we're thinking of starting talks with Sylh Alanor for better transportation methods.

Floofybit, Porthosia, Jazur

Rejakhta wrote:Everyone in Rejakhta travels by bicycle, except for delegates. But we're thinking of starting talks with Sylh Alanor for better transportation methods.

Do the delegates walk?

Floofybit, Kaelim, Porthosia, Jazur

Waywards Edge wrote:Do the delegates walk?

No, they have electric vehicles. We didn't develop them ourselves, they were imports.

Floofybit, Porthosia, Jazur

Rejakhta wrote:Everyone in Rejakhta travels by bicycle, except for delegates. But we're thinking of starting talks with Sylh Alanor for better transportation methods.

I can confirm that Sylh Alanor goes on walks every day

Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Porthosia, Jazur, Parvesha, Amiyoka

Waywards Edge wrote:Do we have any forms of specialized transportation? Planes, Spacecraft, or other kinds of modes of Transit? I was thinking maybe a beacon system, "Ley Lines". Essentially, any nation that has a Ley Line Beacon has access to a hub, (Mass Effect, anyone?) perhaps in a Demilitarized Zone so armies can't attack through them. Ley Lines would serve a diplomatic purpose, as well as allowing freedom of travel to those involved in the project. If a crisis between nations would develop, Diplomats could easily travel through to attend diplomatic press conferences, in a neutral zone that is the equivalent to NYC or Geneva.

What are your thoughts? What is your favorite mode of transportation? Mine is trains.

My favorite is bus

Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Porthosia, Jazur, Huliunov

Waywards Edge wrote:What are your thoughts? What is your favorite mode of transportation? Mine is trains.
I prefer walking places if I can, but unfortunately I moved right next to a major highway about a year ago and a freeway separates my neighborhood from all the stores. There are no train or bus stations on this side of the freeway so I have to drive. You couldn’t pay me to walk across the interstate.

Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Porthosia, Jazur

Waywards Edge wrote:Do we have any forms of specialized transportation? Planes, Spacecraft, or other kinds of modes of Transit? I was thinking maybe a beacon system, "Ley Lines". Essentially, any nation that has a Ley Line Beacon has access to a hub, (Mass Effect, anyone?) perhaps in a Demilitarized Zone so armies can't attack through them. Ley Lines would serve a diplomatic purpose, as well as allowing freedom of travel to those involved in the project. If a crisis between nations would develop, Diplomats could easily travel through to attend diplomatic press conferences, in a neutral zone that is the equivalent to NYC or Geneva.

What are your thoughts? What is your favorite mode of transportation? Mine is trains.

Mine is bus, nice just to chill on the bus especially on long rides. Other then that walking or bike riding to stay fit

Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Porthosia, Jazur

Waywards Edge wrote:What are your thoughts? What is your favorite mode of transportation? Mine is trains.

Mine is also trains, specially the ones that reach 300km/h (In Felzus there are trains that reach that speed)

Refuge Isle, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Porthosia, Jazur

Trains are great!

Araine, Floofybit, Felzus, Tiralta, Porthosia, Jazur, Parvesha

Ochio wrote:Trains are great!

Yeah.

Floofybit, Porthosia, Jazur, Huliunov

Felzus wrote:Yeah.

same here

Floofybit, Felzus, Porthosia, Jazur

"Hypothetical dilemma polls" won by a decent margin, so I've started with that one. Let me know why you went with your choice!

https://www.nationstates.net/region=refugia#poll

Personally I'm going with no, cause while my autistic self would love to know what other people are thinking, and while it would be lovely to think about how much I love my friends and have them know immediately, if I'm in a bad mood I'm not the most forgiving with my thoughts. I'd hate for someone to bear the brunt of that and take my grumblings personally just cause I slept through my alarm or whatever.

Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Porthosia, Parvesha, Amiyoka, Funf

Dimm-A-Land wrote:Whats everyone's favorite breakfast food ? :) I'm an oatmeal person

ORANGE

JUICE

Chacapoya, Araine, Tiralta, Porthosia, Jazur, Parvesha, Dimm-A-Land, Amiyoka, Ochio

Guys, hear me out: what if we powered the world on Nutella?

Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Porthosia, Jazur, Dimm-A-Land, Amiyoka

Dimm-A-Land wrote:Whats everyone's favorite breakfast food ? :) I'm an oatmeal person

porridge. I used to 'ive off of the stuff, and I enjoyed it

Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Dimm-A-Land

Waywards Edge wrote:What are your thoughts? What is your favorite mode of transportation? Mine is trains.

Mine is firm'y trams, as they're rel'ative'y fine for the environment

Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta

Hey folks! I'm afraid my time as emissary from XKI has come to an end here, so this is the conclusion of my formal duties. It's been a pleasure working with y'all! See y'all around. :)

Chacapoya, Typica, Refuge Isle, Araine, Floofybit, Cadenzana, Tiralta, Jazur, Parvesha, Dimm-A-Land, Amiyoka

Tiralta wrote:"Hypothetical dilemma polls" won by a decent margin, so I've started with that one. Let me know why you went with your choice!

https://www.nationstates.net/region=refugia#poll

Personally I'm going with no, cause while my autistic self would love to know what other people are thinking, and while it would be lovely to think about how much I love my friends and have them know immediately, if I'm in a bad mood I'm not the most forgiving with my thoughts. I'd hate for someone to bear the brunt of that and take my grumblings personally just cause I slept through my alarm or whatever.

Yeah agree with you. For me it's no

But why I say no is because people need their privacy :/

Also if people had a bad day I could see their thoughts and feel bad for them. It's ok! Your tae-kwon-do teacher will forgive you for punching him in the belly so hard that he will probably die! AAAAH *the person runs away*

Typica, Floofybit, Tiralta

Tiralta wrote:"Hypothetical dilemma polls" won by a decent margin, so I've started with that one. Let me know why you went with your choice!

https://www.nationstates.net/region=refugia#poll

Personally I'm going with no, cause while my autistic self would love to know what other people are thinking, and while it would be lovely to think about how much I love my friends and have them know immediately, if I'm in a bad mood I'm not the most forgiving with my thoughts. I'd hate for someone to bear the brunt of that and take my grumblings personally just cause I slept through my alarm or whatever.

I agree with you. I wouldn't want to read minds, because people can be rude, and I do have a fragile ego. I would get insecure

and I am a private person, I treasure my secrets.

Chacapoya, Typica, Refuge Isle, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Parvesha, Funf

Waywards Edge wrote:What is your favourite mode of transportation? Mine is trains.

I saw on NatGeo that clouds are basically sky rivers... So put on a life jacket, wait for it to rain, let the life jacket float you up, and fly with the current among the clouds.

Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Funf

Wisch From Xki wrote:Hey folks! I'm afraid my time as emissary from XKI has come to an end here, so this is the conclusion of my formal duties. It's been a pleasure working with y'all! See y'all around. :)

Aww, farewell Wisch!

Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Parvesha

Waywards Edge wrote:Do we have any forms of specialized transportation? Planes, Spacecraft, or other kinds of modes of Transit? I was thinking maybe a beacon system, "Ley Lines". Essentially, any nation that has a Ley Line Beacon has access to a hub, (Mass Effect, anyone?) perhaps in a Demilitarized Zone so armies can't attack through them. Ley Lines would serve a diplomatic purpose, as well as allowing freedom of travel to those involved in the project. If a crisis between nations would develop, Diplomats could easily travel through to attend diplomatic press conferences, in a neutral zone that is the equivalent to NYC or Geneva.

What are your thoughts? What is your favorite mode of transportation? Mine is trains.

I love trains, though most in Funf travel by public transport - electric street cars and the underground Metro.

Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Parvesha, Zabruhmoment Of Vehemesht

It seems like the only economy in Talvezout is book publishing

Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta

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