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Region: Refugia

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Boxiia wrote:"Hey, you. You're finally awake." [sup]-Hadvar[/sup]

That was Ralof, not Hadvar.

Chacapoya, Typica, Sempera, The Blue Fire, Boxiia

I GOT RECLASSIFIED INTO A INOFFENSIVE CENTRIST DEMOCRACY AGAIN. WHAT AM I DOING WRONG

Delta Vega Iv, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire, Boxiia, Pantumaca

Youth Rebelliousness is annoying stat to try to maintain 😵

Portmanteau, Tiralta, Daymo

Agudo Island wrote:That was Ralof, not Hadvar.

oh right i forgot

yo uh serious question

do condemnations even do anything

Delta Vega Iv, The Blue Fire

Ban Oldern wrote:yo uh serious question

do condemnations even do anything

Just gives you a pretty badge on your nation page. Lets folks know that you wore the black hat well. But they can't be used to actually impose penalties on a nation or region, or anything like that.

Chacapoya, Typica, Tiralta, Jazur, Morrigan, The Blue Fire

yo is the fruit war still on or what

Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Finally got my old nation back. Moved it here with the new one. Hello everynyan.

Typica, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Morrigan

Tay-Mania wrote:I GOT RECLASSIFIED INTO A INOFFENSIVE CENTRIST DEMOCRACY AGAIN. WHAT AM I DOING WRONG

There is nothing more offending than being called inoffensive

Right?

The Blue Fire

Ban Oldern wrote:yo uh serious question

do condemnations even do anything

No

In fact, it used to be that raiders used to get condemned, and wear their condemnations as a shiny medal

Until many or maybe all (I didn't keep track) of these condemnations got repealed, and the SC stopped being fun

I don't support raiding per se, but it's an important part of the game

Tiralta, The Blue Fire

Delta Vega Iv wrote:There is nothing more offending than being called inoffensive

Right?

actually I'm more offended when I remember I live in a small area of progressiveness inside one of the largest conservative backwaters in the world

Delta Vega Iv, The Blue Fire

Hello, my fellow Refugi! (especially Refuge Isle)

You probably have seen quite a few of these over the past week, so I'll just cut to the chase: I'm here to announce my bid for Councillor of Cartography.

With this, it'll be a 3-way race, so here's why you should choose me:

1) I will try to do my part in making signing up for a spot on the map smoother and quicker for anyone hoping to get a spot. I'll also set out a simple way for changing borders.

2) If elected, I'll make a "roleplay" map that includes CTE'd and NPC nations in the lore of other players, and allows for a more integrated roleplay and lore experience for the whole of Refugia.

3) I am pretty good at designing maps, whether on paper or digitally, so if you care about stuff like that (even though it probably doesn't matter all that much since Refugia currently uses Azgaar's for its maps), I'd be a good choice for councillor.

oh, and also:

4) I am not under the influence of the telepathic moon stoat. Definitely not. Yup.

[I]starts eating vole[/I]

Anyway, thank you for your consideration as a candidate. To show you I'm serious about my campaign promises, if I don't accomplish any particular one of them during my term, I will eat... [I]checks notes, gulps in worry[/I] watermelon in barbecue beans...

[/I]

shoulda never allowed Atten to be my campaign manager... I think I'm gonna be sick...

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, The Merinos, Morrigan, The Blue Fire, Boxiia, Edmaraver

Thanks for the candidacies. I have updated the ballot appropriately. Another day remains to declare for any Councillor seat, should anyone wish to do so.

Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, Morrigan, The Blue Fire, Ban Oldern

Refuge Isle, I would like to declare my candidacy for Councillor of World Assembly Affairs.

This past week, I've been thinking of how to approach this position. Since its inception, the World Assembly Affairs position hasn't been met with much success, at least in the ways we were hoping. We've had a lot of Information & Recommendation dispatches published, and some sporadic discussion of WA proposals in the RMB, but I think we could do more. The solution I've come to (acknowledging this might not be a correct solution) is to foster more discussion on why things are being written, while still maintaining at our core a priority on quality and intent.

When we had peak discussion of proposals in 2020 and 2021, I think it was because we had a singular, regional focus on what those were about. Proposals were more likely to be written based on authorial interest and worthiness of topic. I don't really think that's the approach anymore, and maybe collectively discussing purpose at this point, as well as hopefully strategising how we might be able to work within and against the new WA framework, could help spark more interest. Who knows, maybe we'll start getting more Refugi-initiated proposals as well!

Also I hope someone will run against me for this position, so we can put different approaches or ideologies to a vote and get started on the new method even faster >:D

Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Melenavenia, Araine, Portmanteau, Aephony, Tiralta, Duneraven, Jazur, Morrigan, The Blue Fire, Ban Oldern, Aseanindia

I would like to declare my candidacy for fluffiest rabbit in the region.

Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Ban Oldern wrote:actually I'm more offended when I remember I live in a small area of progressiveness inside one of the largest conservative backwaters in the world

Man I felt that. Except the living in a progressive area part. This post brought to you by Kansas Gang.

Tiralta

Melenavenia wrote:I would like to declare my candidacy for fluffiest rabbit in the region.

Before making a decision, I'd like to hear your fluffy rabbit platform. For instance, how do you feel about gardens and the integrity of their vegetables?

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Melenavenia, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Portmanteau wrote:Before making a decision, I'd like to hear your fluffy rabbit platform. For instance, how do you feel about gardens and the integrity of their vegetables?

Gardens need to be given the upmost care. While it may be tempting to voraciously consume all of its contents as quickly as possible that only leads to short-term pleasure.

Gardening a variety of vegetables, preserving them, and combining them to create lovely veggie dishes is the way to go. Also I heard sun hats are still fashionable.

Typica, Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Melenavenia wrote:I would like to declare my candidacy for fluffiest rabbit in the region.

I’m a little suspicious. While you do appear to be fluffy, you seem quite large for a rabbit, with much smaller ears than one would expect, and I don’t think I’ve seen you eat a single vegetable.

If I didn’t know better, I would say you more closely resemble one of those large, white bears that are typically found in certain polar climates. Polar bears, if you will.

A carnivorous animal that is able to successfully convince everyone around it that it is just an incredibly fluffy bunny could, in theory, catch us off guard and eat us. But you wouldn’t do that, right?

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Melenavenia, Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Melenavenia wrote:I would like to declare my candidacy for fluffiest rabbit in the region.

The Pacific Northwest wrote:snip

Due to the revelations on the part of the Pacific Northwest, I too would like to announce my candidacy for fluffiest rabbit. Unlike Melenavenia, there is no possibility on my part of being anything more or less than a truly fluffy rabbit. I also have an understanding of how to utilize Google to learn how to construct irrigation systems and breed vegetables to their absolute best. And how to stay a very fluffy rabbit too.

Chacapoya, Typica, Melenavenia, Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

I have finally removed my military and i need opinions if this was a good move

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Portmanteau, Tiralta, The Blue Fire

The Pacific Northwest wrote:I’m a little suspicious. While you do appear to be fluffy, you seem quite large for a rabbit, with much smaller ears than one would expect, and I don’t think I’ve seen you eat a single vegetable.

If I didn’t know better, I would say you more closely resemble one of those large, white bears that are typically found in certain polar climates. Polar bears, if you will.

A carnivorous animal that is able to successfully convince everyone around it that it is just an incredibly fluffy bunny could, in theory, catch us off guard and eat us. But you wouldn’t do that, right?

Y'know dogs right? Those yappy things always causing a ruckus. They come in all shapes and sizes. From the bite-sized--er lap-sized to the size of a nice and plump Northern Fur Seal. Most people don't know this but rabbits are the same way. Except a lot more extreme because there's a lot of little ones and then there is me. Also the ears are a... specific evolution because of my love of the Arctic Circle. Bigger ears means more heat lost and I need that heat to stay alive.

As for polar bears... yeah those poor things... a changing climate is making them do extreme things just to survive. Like go south. And hunt new things.

And why would I eat any of you little guys? I'm just a rabbit. I eat from my garden and that's that. The reason why I'm only growing herbs and spices is because I'm on a special diet. The garnishing diet.

Estebere wrote:Due to the revelations on the part of the Pacific Northwest, I too would like to announce my candidacy for fluffiest rabbit. Unlike Melenavenia, there is no possibility on my part of being anything more or less than a truly fluffy rabbit. I also have an understanding of how to utilize Google to learn how to construct irrigation systems and breed vegetables to their absolute best. And how to stay a very fluffy rabbit too.

I think you're mistaken to doubt my rabbit-ness. It is a shame you would run against me based on an unfounded conspiracy. I'm just a very large and very fluffy rabbit.

Though I would [I]love[/I] to hear more about your irrigation and vegetable breeding knowledge. Would you mind meeting in private to discuss that? Besides you look a lot more like a whiskered Mustelidae that I'm very familiar with.

Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Melenavenia wrote:I would like to declare my candidacy for fluffiest rabbit in the region.

Mister Rabbit, sir! Should rabbits be allowed to have a carrot once in a while?

Typica, Melenavenia, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur

Ban Oldern wrote:Mister Rabbit, sir! Should rabbits be allowed to have a carrot once in a while?

If a rabbit wants a carrot a rabbit should get a carrot. Too many rabbits go without their wanted carrots. And if you're a rabbit that just likes celery or something, then that's perfectly fine too!

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire, Tay-Mania

https://www.nationstates.net/region=refugia#poll

Fluffy bunnies, let us go onward in our journey around the region!

Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Portmanteau, Jazur, The Blue Fire

love how Refugia is calm and peaceful except for the violent escalation happening over sproks

Delta Vega Iv, Portmanteau, The Blue Fire, Ansgar

I support the candidacy of the fluffy rabbit to the post of Fluffy Rabbit of the Region.

Typica, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur

Melenavenia wrote:Y'know dogs right? Those yappy things always causing a ruckus. They come in all shapes and sizes. From the bite-sized--er lap-sized to the size of a nice and plump Northern Fur Seal. Most people don't know this but rabbits are the same way. Except a lot more extreme because there's a lot of little ones and then there is me. Also the ears are a... specific evolution because of my love of the Arctic Circle. Bigger ears means more heat lost and I need that heat to stay alive.

Hm, this makes sense to me. I once knew a 6-foot, 3-and-a-half-inch tall rabbit, named Harvey. I was walking down the street, one day, when I heard a voice saying: "Good evening, Mr. Port". I turned, and there was this big white rabbit leaning against a lamp-post. Naturally, I went over to chat with him.

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Melenavenia, Araine, Tiralta, The Blue Fire

Seconds ago: Delta Vega IV was reclassified from "Scandinavian Liberal Paradise" to "Left-Leaning College State".

Is there any way to become a "Dinosaur-riding State"? Kids in Delta Vega IV demand to know!

Typica, Tiralta, Jazur

Melenavenia wrote:snip

Hunt new things... such as rabbits? Shouldn't you be using your obviously superior size to attack the polar bears and protect us smaller rabbits, not having the physical prowess to defend ourselves from the approaching polar bears, unless you in fact are in league with them? Also, what do you mean "Bigger ears means more heat lost and I need that heat to survive"(1)? Wouldn't evolution has automatically removed that feature, or even better, done away with it entirely? Unless... you are merely using your ears as a diversion to distract us from the fact that you are in fact a polar bear disguised as a rabbit!

I must admit, however, that I too have some sympathy for the polar bears, as us rabbits also face the same dilemma. However! That will not excuse the fact that innocent rabbits are being eaten daily by them!

Ah yes, the varnishing diet. Perhaps I should try it some day. Have you ever tried cooking your vegetables, such as steaming carrots? Those are truly delectable.

Melenavenia wrote:snip

Ah yes, you'd say that you are a rabbit; exactly what a polar bear that is masquerading as a fluffy rabbit would say! And of course, I am not merely running because of a founded conspiracy; I too am a fluffy rabbit; and willing to campaign to be the fluffiest!

I do admit however, it would be nice to discuss my farming knowledge with someone. Perhaps we can discuss it over telegram? However, you are quite mistaken about me being a mustelidae I am, in fact, a rabbit through and through. Of the Angora breed, to be specific. However, there was one time where I was transformed into a cat...

Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Tiralta, The Blue Fire

Agudo Island wrote:Psst... I know who you are. Hail Sithis!

never should’ve come here

The Blue Fire, Agudo Island

Election Notice:

The candidacy period has closed for the November-February Regional Council term. With volunteers having been located, elections will be foregone for the following positions:

[list]

Chacapoya will be the incoming Councillor of Foreign Affairs.

Tiralta will be reinstated as Councillor of Culture for an additional term.

Morrigan will be the incoming Councillor of Operations.

Sylh Alanor will be the incoming Councillor of World Assembly Affairs.

[/list]

An election poll is necessary to determine the next Councillor of Cartography, between St Leone, New Atlantic, and Ban Oldern. Now through November 26[sup]th[/sup], at 9am Pacific, Refugia Member States can visit Vote.Calref to cast their ballot in the election.

Vote today! https://vote.calref.ca/vote/58

Chacapoya, Typica, Melenavenia, Araine, Liphia, St Leone, Tiralta, Jazur, Morrigan, The Blue Fire, Foreigna

Melenavenia wrote:I would like to declare my candidacy for fluffiest rabbit in the region.

[I]whispers discreetly[/I] there are... others, saying you are not what you say. If it is true, I know how to make it not so. Only if you choose may it happen, but if you wish, the rabbit of pure fluff you shall be.

[I]begins choking on vole for like the third time today. good lord how hard is it to spit out the bones, or, hell, digest them? you'd think as a griffin...-thingy I'd know but apparently not[/I]

Melenavenia, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Estebere wrote:Unlike Melenavenia, there is no possibility on my part of being anything more or less than a truly fluffy rabbit.

But didn’t you get turned into a warrior cat during the attempted Z-day prevention magic stuff?

Don’t cats sometimes eat rabbits?

Melenavenia wrote:Y'know dogs right? Those yappy things always causing a ruckus. They come in all shapes and sizes. From the bite-sized--er lap-sized to the size of a nice and plump Northern Fur Seal. Most people don't know this but rabbits are the same way. Except a lot more extreme because there's a lot of little ones and then there is me.

So you’re saying you’re the only rabbit of your size in existence? How large and fluffy are your parents?

Melenavenia wrote:Also the ears are a... specific evolution because of my love of the Arctic Circle. Bigger ears means more heat lost and I need that heat to stay alive.

If small ears are required to live in the arctic, then why do arctic hares still have longer ears characteristic of rabbits and hares? Surely they would have evolved ears much closer to yours if they were truly essential to cold weather survival.

You also conveniently dodged the question as to why no one has ever seen you ingest a vegetable. I dare you to eat an entire head of lettuce and look like you enjoy it.

Melenavenia wrote:As for polar bears... yeah those poor things... a changing climate is making them do extreme things just to survive. Like go south. And hunt new things.

New things like… Peaceful Refugi hobbits, warrior cats, and innocent bunnies?

Melenavenia wrote:And why would I eat any of you little guys? I'm just a rabbit. I eat from my garden and that's that. The reason why I'm only growing herbs and spices is because I'm on a special diet. The garnishing diet.

And what might you be garnishing with those garnishes? Are you planning to just stumble across wild lettuce so you can sprinkle your herbs and spices on it? Or do you expect us to believe you’re living entirely on those garnishes? But if you are, why call it the garnishing diet? That implies you’re using them to garnish something.

Melenavenia wrote: Would you mind meeting in private to discuss that?

Why so insistent on a private meeting? Is it so you can eat them?

I think I’m going to need a tinfoil hat after this, I don’t think I can trust anything anymore.

Chacapoya, Typica, Melenavenia, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Tiralta wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/region=refugia#poll

Fluffy bunnies, let us go onward in our journey around the region!

y e s

idk what to respond with ok?

Tiralta

The Pacific Northwest wrote:I think I’m going to need a tinfoil hat after this, I don’t think I can trust anything anymore.

[I]angrily[/I] I WILL HAVE YOU KNOW that tinfoil is EXTREMELY toxic to griffins like me for no apparent reason and I will NOT tolerate this sort of blatant griffin-phobia.

also thallium blocks more radio waves than aluminum

Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

The Pacific Northwest wrote:But didn’t you get turned into a warrior cat during the attempted Z-day prevention magic stuff?

Don’t cats sometimes eat rabbits?

I did get turned into a cat once, yes, but after the Lunar Stoat did their thing I suddenly found myself in the body of a fluffy angora rabbit, seemingly permanently now that it's gone. And while yes, cats do sometimes eat rabbits, I did keep my mind while I was a cat, and so did not eat any rabbits.

Chacapoya, Typica, Melenavenia, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Estebere wrote:Hunt new things... such as rabbits? Shouldn't you be using your obviously superior size to attack the polar bears and protect us smaller rabbits, not having the physical prowess to defend ourselves from the approaching polar bears, unless you in fact are in league with them? Also, what do you mean "Bigger ears means more heat lost and I need that heat to survive"(1)? Wouldn't evolution has automatically removed that feature, or even better, done away with it entirely? Unless... you are merely using your ears as a diversion to distract us from the fact that you are in fact a polar bear disguised as a rabbit!

I'm one rabbit and there are thousands of bears. And besides, I'm a bit smaller than most of those polar bears so it wouldn't work out well. And I come from up north and evolution doesn't work like that. As for the ears, compare the ear size of snow and desert hares. The desert hares have much bigger ears.

Estebere wrote:I must admit, however, that I too have some sympathy for the polar bears, as us rabbits also face the same dilemma. However! That will not excuse the fact that innocent rabbits are being eaten daily by them!

Even rabbits and other herbivores resort to eating whatever they can to survive. There are few pure carnivores and herbivores, and most animals including rabbits will typically lean in one direction but when it comes down to it, staying alive is priority. And I understand our enemy. They want to live just as much as we do. It isn't their fault that they happened to be born as a polar bear and for polar bears, a rabbit would be a great snack just like how a carrot would be a great snack for us.

Estebere wrote:Ah yes, the varnishing diet. Perhaps I should try it some day. Have you ever tried cooking your vegetables, such as steaming carrots? Those are truly delectable.

Ah yes, you'd say that you are a rabbit; exactly what a polar bear that is masquerading as a fluffy rabbit would say! And of course, I am not merely running because of a founded conspiracy; I too am a fluffy rabbit; and willing to campaign to be the fluffiest!

I love steaming my food. Baking it. Grilling it. Slow-cooking it. Oh so delicious. But how do you measure "fluff"? I believe myself to be a very fluffy rabbit and worthy of the title of the fluffiest rabbit. But I could say the same for you. You seem to me to resemble a certain mustelidae called an otter. And to my knowledge otters are primarily carnivores who would be more than happy to have a bunch of trusting rabbits nearby to snack on...

Estebere wrote:I do admit however, it would be nice to discuss my farming knowledge with someone. Perhaps we can discuss it over telegram?

I think it would be more efficient to discuss it in a more [I]direct[/I] manner.

Ban Oldern wrote:[I]whispers discreetly[/I] there are... others, saying you are not what you say. If it is true, I know how to make it not so. Only if you choose may it happen, but if you wish, the rabbit of pure fluff you shall be.

[I]begins choking on vole for like the third time today. good lord how hard is it to spit out the bones, or, hell, digest them? you'd think as a griffin...-thingy I'd know but apparently not[/I]

I'm a bit confused as to what you're proposing but I have no issues with my rabbit identity, because I am simply just a very large and fluffy rabbit. I've [I]heard[/I]... >.> its a good idea to thoroughly crush them before swallowing.

The Pacific Northwest wrote:So you’re saying you’re the only rabbit of your size in existence? How large and fluffy are your parents?

Oh I know my mother was very large and fluffy too. I don't know about my father. He kinda dipped out long before I was born, but I can only assume that he was also very large and fluffy. I think its more accurate for me to say that I'm just the only very large and very fluffy rabbit here.

The Pacific Northwest wrote:If small ears are required to live in the arctic, then why do arctic hares still have longer ears characteristic of rabbits and hares? Surely they would have evolved ears much closer to yours if they were truly essential to cold weather survival.

They do have smaller ears than their cousins from warmer climates! I just come from [I]very far north[/I]. I mastered sliding along icebergs and swimming to get from place to place, and you can imagine that I'd need very small ears even in comparison to snow hares to hold onto all the warmth that I could.

The Pacific Northwest wrote:You also conveniently dodged the question as to why no one has ever seen you ingest a vegetable. I dare you to eat an entire head of lettuce and look like you enjoy it.

To be fair I haven't seen anyone else eat anything either. And this is a faulty question because rabbits will eat what they have to in order to survive like most animals, though personally I have [I]never[/I] done anything like that. It's unimaginable. And I just don't personally like lettuce. I prefer other things. Like basil.

The Pacific Northwest wrote:New things like… Peaceful Refugi hobbits, warrior cats, and innocent bunnies?

Well I suppose it's [I]possible[/I] but I don't think it is likely[/I] that one would come here specifically to eat all of those things. That's craaaazy.

The Pacific Northwest wrote:And what might you be garnishing with those garnishes? Are you planning to just stumble across wild lettuce so you can sprinkle your herbs and spices on it? Or do you expect us to believe you’re living entirely on those garnishes? But if you are, why call it the garnishing diet? That implies you’re using them to garnish something.

I just eat all the herbs and spices. I'm just trying out this diet. I don't know if I'll stick to it. I much prefer the meat of a carrot. And as for the name? I think you're just reading a little too much into it.

The Pacific Northwest wrote:Why so insistent on a private meeting? Is it so you can eat them?

Well I wouldn't want to bore everyone with a long discussion about irrigation and vegetable breeding. It seems only appropriate to discuss it privately. I'd like to share more information about the garnishing diet with you as well in private. I think you'd benefit from it. Also I'm not going to address that absurd[/I] last comment.

The Pacific Northwest wrote:I think I’m going to need a tinfoil hat after this, I don’t think I can trust anything anymore.

You can trust me to be your fluffiest Refugi rabbit. :)

Chacapoya, Tiralta, The Blue Fire

Ban Oldern wrote:[I]angrily[/I] I WILL HAVE YOU KNOW that tinfoil is EXTREMELY toxic to griffins like me for no apparent reason and I will NOT tolerate this sort of blatant griffin-phobia.

also thallium blocks more radio waves than aluminum

Couldn’t you just not touch or eat my hat, or is it a magic thing? And is it all griffins or do you specifically have a tinfoil allergy?

I suppose I could make a thallium hat instead but I’m not sure where to find some.

Melenavenia, Tiralta, The Blue Fire

For those who have card collections I challenge you to make a collection of all the cards you own that have actual country flags as their flag. Personally I don't include the countries of the United Kingdom, other territories or constituent countries of nations such as the Faroe Islands, or alterations of real national flags in my own collection. However, despite those limitations I have a collection that currently sits at 389 cards, which is ~19.2% of my total collection of 2,029 cards.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/collection=59495

Chacapoya, Typica, Tiralta

Refuge Isle wrote:Election Notice:

The candidacy period has closed for the November-February Regional Council term. With volunteers having been located, elections will be foregone for the following positions:

[list]

Chacapoya will be the incoming Councillor of Foreign Affairs.

Tiralta will be reinstated as Councillor of Culture for an additional term.

Morrigan will be the incoming Councillor of Operations.

Sylh Alanor will be the incoming Councillor of World Assembly Affairs.

[/list]

An election poll is necessary to determine the next Councillor of Cartography, between St Leone, New Atlantic, and Ban Oldern. Now through November 26[sup]th[/sup], at 9am Pacific, Refugia Member States can visit Vote.Calref to cast their ballot in the election.

Vote today! https://vote.calref.ca/vote/58

Hello! I'm a new nation and am new to the region as well. I was wondering if there is a location where I could easily find all the candidacies declarations to review before casting my vote in future elections? I believe I am unable to vote in this election because I am so new but please correct me if I'm wrong.

Chacapoya, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Jazur

Pantumaca wrote:I started with one of the worst economies possible and now it's accidentally shot up above my civil rights, even though they were excessive at one point. I haven't done a whole lot on purpose to increase my economy but it's happened anyway, and meanwhile my civil rights keep on dropping...

"What are Civil Rights?"

Average Comrade of Foreigna

Chacapoya, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Good day friends and members of the NationStates community! We are proud to present the October version of our foreign affairs update, which can be read in full here.

www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1958866

Chacapoya, Araine, Tiralta, The Blue Fire

Edmaraver wrote:I was wondering if there is a location where I could easily find all the candidacies declarations to review before casting my vote in future elections?

You can use the same cheat method I use to make the ballot, which is to check my RMB mentions in Refugia: https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb_search?rmbsearch-text=refuge+isle&rmbsearch-author=&rmbsearch-region=Refugia&rmbsearch-sort=new

Edmaraver wrote:I believe I am unable to vote in this election because I am so new but please correct me if I'm wrong.

This is correct. You need to be a Member State in order to vote. Member State status is automatically achieved when you have seven consecutive days of World Assembly membership in Refugia. This policy makes it impossible for a player to rig an election, since one WA membership per player is enforced by NationStates mod, and makes it unlikely that someone who is not dedicated to the region would run for any office. You will be tagged in this dispatch by my script when the requirements are met.

Chacapoya, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire, Edmaraver

Melenavenia wrote:I've [I]heard[/I]... >.> its a good idea to thoroughly crush them before swallowing.

That’s a very suspicious thing to have heard

Melenavenia wrote:Oh I know my mother was very large and fluffy too. I don't know about my father. He kinda dipped out long before I was born, but I can only assume that he was also very large and fluffy. I think its more accurate for me to say that I'm just the only very large and very fluffy rabbit here.

Fair enough. I will assume other rabbits of unusual size exist elsewhere in the universe.

Melenavenia wrote:I just come from [I]very far north[/I].

With those ears your family must be from right at the north pole then.

Melenavenia wrote:To be fair I haven't seen anyone else eat anything either.

You mean to tell me we’ve had multiple fruit wars and no one ate anything during them?

Melenavenia wrote:Well I suppose it's [I]possible[/I] but I don't think it is likely[/I] that one would come here specifically to eat all of those things. That's craaaazy.

But you just said rabbits will eat anything to survive, so what’s stopping you from eating anything for fun?

Melenavenia wrote:And as for the name? I think you're just reading a little too much into it.

Veeeery convenient

Melenavenia wrote:Well I wouldn't want to bore everyone with a long discussions about irrigation and vegetable breeding. It seems only appropriate to discuss it privately. I'd like to share more information about the garnishing diet with you as well in private.

Oh no you don’t. You’ll never take me alive! Any discussion of herbs, spices, and/or gardening will take place in brightly lit public spaces, preferably with CCTV cameras watching every angle and ample witnesses. Surely if you don’t have anything nefarious planned that wouldn’t be a problem?

Melenavenia wrote:Also I'm not going to address that absurd last comment.
But you didn’t deny it

Melenavenia wrote:For those who have card collections I challenge you to make a collection of all the cards you own that have actual country flags as their flag. Personally I don't include the countries of the United Kingdom, other territories or constituent countries of nations such as the Faroe Islands, or alterations of real national flags in my own collection. However, despite those limitations I have a collection that currently sits at 389 cards, which is ~19.2% of my total collection of 2,029 cards.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/collection=59495

I think I got them all?

https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/collection=71242

I have a lot fewer cards but it still ended up being 153/875, or 17.4% of my total number.

Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Tiralta

Melenavenia wrote: And to my knowledge otters are primarily carnivores who would be more than happy to have a bunch of trusting rabbits nearby to snack on...

I'd recommend you watch yourself with that. Some of us may just decide you are indeed a rabbit, in the worst way possible.

Melenavenia wrote:To be fair I haven't seen anyone else eat anything either. And this is a faulty question because rabbits will eat what they have to in order to survive like most animals, though personally I have [I]never[/I] done anything like that. It's unimaginable. And I just don't personally like lettuce. I prefer other things. Like basil.

Bull. Total bull. You literally [I]just[/I] saw me eat a vole.

Not sure if I can trust you anymore

The Pacific Northwest wrote:Couldn’t you just not touch or eat my hat, or is it a magic thing? And is it all griffins or do you specifically have a tinfoil allergy?

All griffins have a tinfoil (specifically all aluminum) allergy, but like how most werewolves have an allergy to silver.

For me it just happens to be worse than normal.

The Pacific Northwest wrote:I suppose I could make a thallium hat instead but I’m not sure where to find some.

Actually it turns out thallium is [I]extremely[/I] toxic to every living thing and it'd just be safer to lace the walls of your house with it, like putting a few feet of lead in a nuclear bunker.

As for where you can get it, you can probably extract it out of some old rat poison.

Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Tiralta, The Blue Fire

Ban Oldern St Leone New Atlantic

I've got two election questions for you all!

What would you say is your favourite thing about our map? And if elected, is there anything you would seek to change?

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, The Blue Fire

Tiralta wrote:Ban Oldern St Leone New Atlantic

I've got two election questions for you all!

What would you say is your favourite thing about our map? And if elected, is there anything you would seek to change?

1) My favorite thing about the map is probably the amount of roleplay people do just based on where and how their country is on the map. People seem to generally accept the shape of their countries, you've got people using the map for roleplay stuff directly, etc., etc., and it all helps to make Refugia more connected.

2) My biggest thing I'll probably change about the map itself is changing it from a direct product from Azgaar's to a drawn image. In my opinion, Azgaar's is good to start making a map with, but it's not necessarily something I'd say would be a good final product. I'll probably end up making a PNG version of the map, regardless of whether I win or not, and I'll update it for as long as I can, just keeping it around in case I become the Councillor for Cartography, whether after this election cycle or any future one.

Tiralta, The Blue Fire, Ansgar

Post self-deleted by St Leone.

I just realized that Refugia's 5 year anniversary is coming up soon. We got any plans to celebrate?

Chacapoya, Araine, Tiralta, Ansgar

Detjavikstan wrote:I just realized that Refugia's 5 year anniversary is coming up soon. We got any plans to celebrate?

Yeah we could do something wonderful

Tiralta, Jazur

Detjavikstan wrote:I just realized that Refugia's 5 year anniversary is coming up soon. We got any plans to celebrate?

I will be organising a week of Culture events to celebrate, working with Chacapoya to set up things with our embassy friendos too! We've had a couple of ideas, including a film and game nights, planning visits to embassy RMBs, a shared Refugia playlist, an RP, and art/writing competitions but nothing is set in stone yet.

But if anyone would like to see anything else to celebrate please let me know!

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Detjavikstan, Cheesy Tots, Araine, St Leone, Jazur, Morrigan, Ullrani, The Blue Fire, Aseanindia, Shishkabab Western Facility

Tiralta wrote:I will be organising a week of Culture events to celebrate, working with Chacapoya to set up things with our embassy friendos too! We've had a couple of ideas, including a film and game nights, planning visits to embassy RMBs, a shared Refugia playlist, an RP, and art/writing competitions but nothing is set in stone yet.

But if anyone would like to see anything else to celebrate please let me know!

We could somehow (I don't know how you will do it so you all can go into the details yourself) represent the unique cultures of individual nations and honour the values of individuality and inclusiveness which form the foundation of Refugia you can decide what to do and how to do it but I think this should be the theme

Chacapoya, Detjavikstan, Tiralta

The letter E. 😎

Jazur, The Blue Fire, Ban Oldern

Shishkabab Western Facility wrote:The letter E. 😎

hell yeah

The Blue Fire, Boxiia, Shishkabab Western Facility

Ban Oldern wrote:hell yeah

i second this

Jazur, The Blue Fire, Voinarx, Ban Oldern, Penocamptt, Shishkabab Western Facility

Boxiia wrote:i second this

i third this

Jazur, The Blue Fire, Ban Oldern, Penocamptt, Shishkabab Western Facility

Voinarx wrote:i third this

i fourth this

Jazur, The Blue Fire, Ban Oldern, Shishkabab Western Facility

Shishkabab Western Facility wrote:The letter E. 😎

Wdym

What do you mean?

Aseanindia wrote:Wdym

What do you mean?

Just the letter E, nothing more, nothing less.

Delta Vega Iv, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Aseanindia wrote:We could somehow (I don't know how you will do it so you all can go into the details yourself) represent the unique cultures of individual nations and honour the values of individuality and inclusiveness which form the foundation of Refugia you can decide what to do and how to do it but I think this should be the theme

Having a theme is a really cool idea! That's actually given me something to think about, I could definitely incorporate that in!

Chacapoya, Detjavikstan, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Penocamptt wrote:i fourth this

Fifthing this

[spoiler=Huge quote/response box]

Melenavenia wrote:I'm one rabbit and there are thousands of bears. And besides, I'm a bit smaller than most of those polar bears so it wouldn't work out well. And I come from up north and evolution doesn't work like that. As for the ears, compare the ear size of snow and desert hares. The desert hares have much bigger ears.

Ok, maybe I was being a bit harsh on your combat prowess. Perhaps we should meet to discuss ways to deal with the likely crisis to come with a Polar Bear invasion at our farming meeting? Also, I don't thing we're understanding each other on the ears. Smaller ears mean less surface area for heat to escape, allowing you to keep more heat as less escapes. Bigger ears- Wait, did you mean that you don't have big ears and I've been misunderstanding you the entire time????

Melenavenia wrote:Even rabbits and other herbivores resort to eating whatever they can to survive. There are few pure carnivores and herbivores, and most animals including rabbits will typically lean in one direction but when it comes down to it, staying alive is priority. And I understand our enemy. They want to live just as much as we do. It isn't their fault that they happened to be born as a polar bear and for polar bears, a rabbit would be a great snack just like how a carrot would be a great snack for us.

So a rabbit would only work in small portions for polar bears I'll just assume that by carrots you meant something like grass. Jokes aside, as much as I understand why the polar bears would wish to eat us, as a rabbit I will selfishly protect my species and let those polar bears eat something else. Or we could just make and feed them bears a LOT of impossible meat.

Melenavenia wrote:I love steaming my food. Baking it. Grilling it. Slow-cooking it. Oh so delicious. But how do you measure "fluff"? I believe myself to be a very fluffy rabbit and worthy of the title of the fluffiest rabbit. But I could say the same for you. You seem to me to resemble a certain mustelidae called an otter. And to my knowledge otters are primarily carnivores who would be more than happy to have a bunch of trusting rabbits nearby to snack on...

In this case, fluff is like how long our fur is, so if we just made a machine that could measure every single lock of fur and averages it out we could see who is fluffiest. As for the otter thing, I'm an Angora Rabbit through and through, I'm just wearing an Otter costume. Otters are very cute okay? Erm, I'll go change that though, looks like they commonly can kill us.

Melenavenia wrote:I think it would be more efficient to discuss it in a more direct manner.

The most direct manner I have is telegram, and if you're asking for my adress, NEVER!

Melenavenia wrote:I've heard... >.> its a good idea to thoroughly crush them before swallowing.

Yeah, I agree with the Pacific Northwest, that is very suspicious. Who did you hear it from?[/spoiler]

Melenavenia, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

If all the best nations have two Ts in their name, is nation bestness proportional to the total number of Ts in its name, or are exactly two required to be the best? Does having more than two make your nation worse?

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

The Pacific Northwest wrote:If all the best nations have two Ts in their name, is nation bestness proportional to the total number of Ts in its name, or are exactly two required to be the best? Does having more than two make your nation worse?

No, having no Ts in your name seems to make your nation worse. Ask me how I know.

Delta Vega Iv, Tiralta, Jazur

Estebere wrote:Fifthing this

i sixth it

The Blue Fire wrote:

unfortunately, japanese doesn't have a character for "wu" (or just "w") so i believe the closest we can get in pure japanese is うう, or uu. fortunately, in japanese, "u" is pronounced in the same way as or at least extremely similarly to the "u" from uwu, so it does sound vaguely recognizable.

(if i'm wrong about any of this, please correct me)

hey, remember this?

i was randomly thinking about it today and realized it would actually be ウウ (basically the same thing but in katakana, the alphabet for loan words)

Delta Vega Iv

Detjavikstan wrote:I just realized that Refugia's 5 year anniversary is coming up soon. We got any plans to celebrate?

Yes :3

Detjavikstan, Tiralta, The Blue Fire

Ban Oldern wrote:In my opinion, Azgaar's is good to start making a map with, but it's not necessarily something I'd say would be a good final product. I'll probably end up making a PNG version of the map, regardless of whether I win or not, and I'll update it for as long as I can, just keeping it around in case I become the Councillor for Cartography, whether after this election cycle or any future one.

Is that going to be something that any future cartographer can do and with ease? It was pretty demanding running Azgaar for four years as it was.

Chacapoya, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

The Pacific Northwest wrote:If all the best nations have two Ts in their name, is nation bestness proportional to the total number of Ts in its name, or are exactly two required to be the best? Does having more than two make your nation worse?

I am honestly surprised people went with that option 😅

Delta Vega Iv, The Blue Fire

Refuge Isle wrote:Is that going to be something that any future cartographer can do and with ease? It was pretty demanding running Azgaar for four years as it was.

I would hope so? All you'd really be doing is taking the previous map into a picture editor, drawing a black line for a border, and filling in the country with a color. It'll certainly be less computationally demanding than running Azgaar is.

The Blue Fire

Ban Oldern wrote:I would hope so? All you'd really be doing is taking the previous map into a picture editor, drawing a black line for a border, and filling in the country with a color. It'll certainly be less computationally demanding than running Azgaar is.

The perk with Azgaar is that I can regenerate the map, add and remove nations, and adjust other map features and markers repeatedly without data or quality loss. Typically with painting systems, you are irreparably painting over old pixels in non-recoverable ways. Though I do not have access to the current map file, I am able to reconstruct it perfectly using my previous file and updating it to the current population. That kind of recovery and repeated revision would not be possible in your system. Moreover, it would not allow members to take the current save file and develop their own high resolution version with infinitely scaling vectors as can happen now with freely available and editable raw data.

Chacapoya, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Shishkabab Western Facility wrote:Just the letter E, nothing more, nothing less.

Quintuple a. Most definitely quintuple a.

The Pacific Northwest wrote:If all the best nations have two Ts in their name, is nation bestness proportional to the total number of Ts in its name, or are exactly two required to be the best? Does having more than two make your nation worse?

I dunno how many T's makes the optimal number, but Quintuple A is the definitive number to make a nation, well, how shall I call it... notable? Notorious, I think it is.

Chacapoya, Tiralta, Morrigan, The Blue Fire, Shishkabab Western Facility

[spoiler=Answering rabbit questions]

The Pacific Northwest wrote:Fair enough. I will assume other rabbits of unusual size exist elsewhere in the universe.

Of course they do! My parents and I could've have been the first!

The Pacific Northwest wrote:With those ears your family must be from right at the north pole then.

I've traveled far! I've lived up in the Arctic most of my life but I decided to come down south where its a bit warmer.

The Pacific Northwest wrote:You mean to tell me we’ve had multiple fruit wars and no one ate anything during them?

I've been somewhat absent for awhile.

The Pacific Northwest wrote:But you just said rabbits will eat anything to survive, so what’s stopping you from eating anything for fun?

The fun things to eat are what we rabbits typically eat!

The Pacific Northwest wrote:Oh no you don’t. You’ll never take me alive! Any discussion of herbs, spices, and/or gardening will take place in brightly lit public spaces, preferably with CCTV cameras watching every angle and ample witnesses. Surely if you don’t have anything nefarious planned that wouldn’t be a problem?

I don't know why you're so paranoid! And wouldn't you want to be taken alive???

The Pacific Northwest wrote:But you didn’t deny it

Because it's an upsetting question! I don't want to think about it!

Ban Oldern wrote:I'd recommend you watch yourself with that. Some of us may just decide you are indeed a rabbit, in the worst way possible.

Well everyone should [I]decide[/I] I am a rabbit because I am a rabbit! What are you implying?

Ban Oldern wrote:Bull. Total bull. You literally [I]just[/I] saw me eat a vole.

Not sure if I can trust you anymore

My bad.

Estebere wrote:Ok, maybe I was being a bit harsh on your combat prowess. Perhaps we should meet to discuss ways to deal with the likely crisis to come with a Polar Bear invasion at our farming meeting? Also, I don't thing we're understanding each other on the ears. Smaller ears mean less surface area for heat to escape, allowing you to keep more heat as less escapes. Bigger ears- Wait, did you mean that you don't have big ears and I've been misunderstanding you the entire time????

So a rabbit would only work in small portions for polar bears I'll just assume that by carrots you meant something like grass. Jokes aside, as much as I understand why the polar bears would wish to eat us, as a rabbit I will selfishly protect my species and let those polar bears eat something else. Or we could just make and feed them bears a LOT of impossible meat.

We could definitely discuss such a thing. In private. We don't want anyone to hear our defense plans that shouldn't hear them. Maybe starting an impossible meat industry could work to lower rabbit fatalities. And yes, I have small ears.

Estebere wrote:In this case, fluff is like how long our fur is, so if we just made a machine that could measure every single lock of fur and averages it out we could see who is fluffiest. As for the otter thing, I'm an Angora Rabbit through and through, I'm just wearing an Otter costume. Otters are very cute okay? Erm, I'll go change that though, looks like they commonly can kill us.

We could certainly measure that. Otters don't [I]commonly[/I] kill rabbits. I would know because I've had my fair share of run ins with them. But if given the chance they would certainly chow down on one.

The Pacific Northwest wrote:That’s a very suspicious thing to have heard

Estebere wrote:Yeah, I agree with the Pacific Northwest, that is very suspicious. Who did you hear it from?

As a very large rabbit a lot of predators are too afraid to mess with me. And sometimes I talk to them and we share our stories.[/spoiler]

Chacapoya, Aephony, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Refuge Isle wrote:The perk with Azgaar is that I can regenerate the map, add and remove nations, and adjust other map features and markers repeatedly without data or quality loss. Typically with painting systems, you are irreparably painting over old pixels in non-recoverable ways. Though I do not have access to the current map file, I am able to reconstruct it perfectly using my previous file and updating it to the current population. That kind of recovery and repeated revision would not be possible in your system. Moreover, it would not allow members to take the current save file and develop their own high resolution version with infinitely scaling vectors as can happen now with freely available and editable raw data.

That is true. I doubt much quality would be lost over time, though, because hopefully with PNG stuff you'd be putting your lines on using a pixel painting system rather than rasterized vector graphics.

I feel like there's not really a way you can have "natural-looking borders" and "infinite recovery" at the same time, though. I suppose we could keep an Azgaar map around for in case someone wants something like it, but then it starts being too much work.

I could maybe try and make an SVG version, but that would probably be a bit more difficult to make changes to. I feel like the right thing to do here is incentivize people to make their own maps of their own countries and have those individual maps reflected on the regional map. It's not perfect, but then again, nothing quite is.

The Blue Fire

Melenavenia wrote:Well everyone should [I]decide[/I] I am a rabbit because I am a rabbit! What are you implying?

I am [I]implying[/I] that I am hungry and griffins have been known to eat rabbits, regardless of size.

Ban Oldern wrote:That is true. I doubt much quality would be lost over time, though, because hopefully with PNG stuff you'd be putting your lines on using a pixel painting system rather than rasterized vector graphics.

I feel like there's not really a way you can have "natural-looking borders" and "infinite recovery" at the same time, though. I suppose we could keep an Azgaar map around for in case someone wants something like it, but then it starts being too much work.

I could maybe try and make an SVG version, but that would probably be a bit more difficult to make changes to. I feel like the right thing to do here is incentivize people to make their own maps of their own countries and have those individual maps reflected on the regional map. It's not perfect, but then again, nothing quite is.

I am personally partial to repealing the Councillor of Cartography position, which I presume was created so that the map would be updated more frequently than when Emily and I ran it, but that hasn't been the case. Its stability, consistency, and continuity was not contingent on who would win the next three month election, and its format was never in question.

Delta Vega Iv, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Refuge Isle wrote:I am personally partial to repealing the Councillor of Cartography position, which I presume was created so that the map would be updated more frequently than when Emily and I ran it, but that hasn't been the case. Its stability, consistency, and continuity was not contingent on who would win the next three month election, and its format was never in question.

I understand. I'll keep the drawn map a personal project.

The Blue Fire

Post self-deleted by Tiralta.

Tiralta wrote:That works for worldbuilders and roleplayers, but there are many nations in Refugia that don't fit that. I'm a pretty active Refugi but I don't have any interest in drawing out a Tiralta map personally, and the map for me is just a nice place to visualise being with my friends. Would that approach not make a stark difference between those who are primarily map-inspired RPers and those who primarily see themselves as stats players, cards players, community players or other types of gameplay within NS?

I suppose it would divide the map-inspired players from the others, even if the effects aren't a lot.

So there goes that idea, too.

Delta Vega Iv, The Blue Fire

Ban Oldern wrote:I suppose it would divide the map-inspired players from the others, even if the effects aren't a lot.

So there goes that idea, too.

It's a fun idea for those who are map builders I'm sure, and it could probably work as a cool side project rather than the main purpose of the map?

Araine, Jazur, The Blue Fire

I am interested in pursuing a new wave of comprehensive legal reform of the RRS. As part of a series of individually contestable and debatable proposals, I offer the first of such in the following document:

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1959666

Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Jazur, Morrigan, The Blue Fire, Ban Oldern, Edmaraver

Hi im new to this website so im not too sure how it works, but how come after a few issues i went from a scandanavian utopia to a corrupt decisions. I'm not corrupt cause my ways are right so it is the better option for everyone?? thanks 🙂

Do I have to have discord?

Izordinia wrote:Do I have to have discord?

You don't have to, but there's a lot of stuff on it that you don't get here.

The Blue Fire

Ban Oldern wrote:You don't have to, but there's a lot of stuff on it that you don't get here.

Like what kind of stuff?

[spoiler=Assorted responses]

Irimara wrote:No, having no Ts in your name seems to make your nation worse. Ask me how I know.
How do you know? Is it because your nation doesn’t have any Ts?

Tiralta wrote:I am honestly surprised people went with that option 😅

Well as a nation with 2+ Ts, I felt obligated to. Now hopefully having three Ts doesn’t make my nation worse.

Delta Vega Iv wrote:Quintuple a. Most definitely quintuple a.I dunno how many T's makes the optimal number, but Quintuple A is the definitive number to make a nation, well, how shall I call it... notable? Notorious, I think it is.

Unfortunately I cannot think of any examples of a quintuple A nation, but a nation called AAAAA does sound like it would be a menace.

Refuge Isle wrote:I am interested in pursuing a new wave of comprehensive legal reform of the RRS. As part of a series of individually contestable and debatable proposals, I offer the first of such in the following document:

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1959666

I’m actually not entirely sure why we declared war on the NS moderators to begin with. Did they ever do anything bad to the region, or did we just disagree with some of their decisions at the time? I was around to vote for it but I legitimately have no recollection of what was going on at this time last year. [/spoiler]

[spoiler=Rabbit stuff]

Melenavenia wrote:The fun things to eat are what we rabbits typically eat!

And you’ve never been curious about anything else? Like meat?

Come to think of it, wouldn’t a rabbit that comes from an incredibly inhospitable environment be more likely to have resorted to eating anything to survive out of necessity than one from a more temperate climate, especially since large animals require more food to sustain themselves? Did you just get very lucky year after year until heading down here?

Melenavenia wrote:I don't know why you're so paranoid! And wouldn't you want to be taken alive???

If I’m going to be cooked and eaten, I think I’d prefer to be dead beforehand instead of being cooked alive or eaten alive.

Melenavenia wrote:We could definitely discuss such a thing. In private. We don't want anyone to hear our defense plans that shouldn't hear them.

But shouldn’t all Refugi be aware of the defense plan so we can protect ourselves and our glorious region from the imminent polar bear incursion?

Melenavenia wrote:As a very large rabbit a lot of predators are too afraid to mess with me. And sometimes I talk to them and we share our stories.

You’ve been befriending animals that enjoy eating other members of your alleged species?[/spoiler]

Delta Vega Iv, Melenavenia, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

The Pacific Northwest wrote:You’ve been befriending animals that enjoy eating other members of your alleged species?[/spoiler]

[I]raises hand wing[/I]

Melenavenia, The Blue Fire

Ban Oldern wrote:[I]raises hand wing[/I]
Yes but you’re not the one on trial here and I don’t think you’ve eaten any sapient rabbits, nor have you ever attempted to pass yourself off as a non predatory animal in order to eat anyone.

Being friends with bears while claiming to be a harmless rabbit that also just really wants to “talk” to people alone and totally not eat anyone is a little more suspicious than openly being a griffin the entire time.

The maybe polar bear might be engaging in espionage and helping to facilitate a larger invasion!

Melenavenia, Tiralta, The Blue Fire

The Pacific Northwest wrote:Yes but you’re not the one on trial here and I don’t think you’ve eaten any sapient rabbits, nor have you ever attempted to pass yourself off as a non predatory animal in order to eat anyone.

Being friends with bears while claiming to be a harmless rabbit that also just really wants to “talk” to people alone and totally not eat anyone is a little more suspicious than openly being a griffin the entire time.

The maybe polar bear might be engaging in espionage and helping to facilitate a larger invasion!

good point

also like I had the entire thing of post-transformation shame of wearing the red/gold robe and a protogen visor wdym "the entire time"

Melenavenia, The Blue Fire

Ban Oldern wrote:good point

also like I had the entire thing of post-transformation shame of wearing the red/gold robe and a protogen visor wdym "the entire time"

Excuse me, the entire time I remember. Not necessarily the entire time. My mistake.

I believe you also arrived during the month I was gone so if that was during that period I just wasn’t present for it.

Melenavenia, Tiralta, The Blue Fire, Ban Oldern

i keep jumping back and forth from an inoffensive centrist democracy to either a democratic socialist or a liberal paradise how does this even happen

Delta Vega Iv, Pantumaca

Tay-Mania wrote:i keep jumping back and forth from an inoffensive centrist democracy to either a democratic socialist or a liberal paradise how does this even happen

I've noticed you post about this a number of times, but am unsure whether this has already been pointed out to you. At risk of being redundant, this helpful dispatch explains how the nation classifications work. So, in your case, you're moving along the axis of economic freedoms, as well as the axis of civil rights, to attain those classifications you're mentioning.

Delta Vega Iv, Araine, Tiralta, The Pacific Northwest, The Blue Fire, Pantumaca, Tay-Mania

The Pacific Northwest wrote:[spoiler=Assorted responses]How do you know? Is it because your nation doesn’t have any Ts?

Well as a nation with 2+ Ts, I felt obligated to. Now hopefully having three Ts doesn’t make my nation worse.

Unfortunately I cannot think of any examples of a quintuple A nation, but a nation called AAAAA does sound like it would be a menace.

I’m actually not entirely sure why we declared war on the NS moderators to begin with. Did they ever do anything bad to the region, or did we just disagree with some of their decisions at the time? I was around to vote for it but I legitimately have no recollection of what was going on at this time last year. [/spoiler]

[spoiler=Rabbit stuff]

And you’ve never been curious about anything else? Like meat?

Come to think of it, wouldn’t a rabbit that comes from an incredibly inhospitable environment be more likely to have resorted to eating anything to survive out of necessity than one from a more temperate climate, especially since large animals require more food to sustain themselves? Did you just get very lucky year after year until heading down here?

If I’m going to be cooked and eaten, I think I’d prefer to be dead beforehand instead of being cooked alive or eaten alive.

But shouldn’t all Refugi be aware of the defense plan so we can protect ourselves and our glorious region from the imminent polar bear incursion?

You’ve been befriending animals that enjoy eating other members of your alleged species?[/spoiler]

Yep, that's pretty much it

This is The Pacific Northwest dropping in on my very first NS account from years ago. I miraculously regained access to the email that was linked to it and thus have regained access to this account. I thought it was gone for good and I was mostly okay with that, I have absolutely no idea what I was doing back then and my policies are all over the place. I'm mainly interested in all the S1 trading cards I have on here now. I wish I'd been more interested in them back then or I'd probably have a ton more.

I'm going to move this thing to my puppet region but I was so shocked I managed to get this back I wanted to say something somewhere lol.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, St Leone, Tiralta, The Pacific Northwest, Jazur, Morrigan, The Blue Fire, Ban Oldern

The Pacific Northwest wrote:I’m actually not entirely sure why we declared war on the NS moderators to begin with. Did they ever do anything bad to the region, or did we just disagree with some of their decisions at the time? I was around to vote for it but I legitimately have no recollection of what was going on at this time last year.

Primarily because the region had been harassed for several weeks by a series of disposable puppets controlled by one player who kept spamming the RMB. Despite a dozen reports from four different parties, all complaints came back as "not actionable". That player later revealed themselves to be a fascist, broke other NS rules, and lost several thousand puppet nations. We technically did not declare war, we simply observed that one was ongoing at that point.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Araine, St Leone, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Refuge Isle wrote:Primarily because the region had been harassed for several weeks by a series of disposable puppets controlled by one player who kept spamming the RMB. Despite a dozen reports from four different parties, all complaints came back as "not actionable". That player later revealed themselves to be a fascist, broke other NS rules, and lost several thousand puppet nations. We technically did not declare war, we simply observed that one was ongoing at that point.

Oh, I think I do remember that, Azo something or other. I’d forgotten. It was that long ago now? Wow.

I also had no idea all of that wasn’t actionable, that’s insane. I seem to recall some stuff that definitely wasn’t PG13 getting posted at some point, as well as personal attacks in addition to the spam. You’d think if they keep doing it they would ban and puppetsweep them sooner rather than later.

Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Araine, St Leone, Tiralta, Jazur, The Blue Fire

Delta Vega Iv wrote:Quintuple a. Most definitely quintuple a.

You make a good point.

Delta Vega Iv, Aseanindia

There should be a treaty for nations with multiple T's in their name!

I call it The Treaty of T's or something like that.

Delta Vega Iv, Araine, Tiralta, Izordinia, Jazur, Aseanindia, Pompier-Pyromane, Shishkabab Western Facility

Tiralta wrote:Ban Oldern St Leone New Atlantic

I've got two election questions for you all!

What would you say is your favourite thing about our map? And if elected, is there anything you would seek to change?

Thanks JRD for answering this question, I think even if you end up changing ideas due to responses it's still really helpful to get an idea of how you'd want to approach the role when making voting decisions!

Chacapoya, Jazur, The Blue Fire, Aseanindia

Delta Vega Iv wrote:I dunno how many T's makes the optimal number, but Quintuple A is the definitive number to make a nation, well, how shall I call it... notable? Notorious, I think it is.

Big news coming out of Dalta Vaga Far today!

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, The Blue Fire, Aseanindia

Penocamptt wrote:There should be a treaty for nations with multiple T's in their name!

I call it The Treaty of T's or something like that.

yes.

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