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Region: Refugia
Hello! Hows your day been?
Typica, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Survivors Win, Tiralta, Jazur, Chong Qing, Uwuguaya
Super cool! Thanks for including me :) if it would help to have lore about my nation for any future issues, I'll try to finish up my Wikipedia-style factbook. Thank you again! Super sick
Tiralta, Talmon, Jazur, Chong Qing, Uwuguaya
Thanks for including me!
Uwuguaya
Hi all!
As noted in the eco report here, we're currently meeting the numbers for our regional eco friendliness and environmental beauty goals, although we didn't hit them at the time we were hoping for.
The goals are part of the Refugia Revised Statutes which anyone can submit an amendment for.
If anyone would like to get into writing amendments for the RRS that can then be voted into regional law, all you need is to be a Member State! If you have an idea for loftier eco goals or any other change you think would be cool you can submit a proposed amendment by:
1. Posting a draft in a dispatch (you can optionally ask for edit suggestions here)
2. Finding another Member State to second your proposal
3. Once you're happy with your proposal and you have a second, ping Refuge Isle to set up a vote!
If you'd like to write any amendments and you'd like a little support in doing so, telegram me or send me a message on discord, I would absolutely love to see more people involved in this area of our region!
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Portmanteau, Aephony, Talmon, Jazur, Tidelia, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire, Thingessness, Daymo
One thing that always confused me about NS is that the rudeness and niceness stat don't intervene with eachother at all
Araine, Everetunga-Hari, Tiralta, Jazur, Tidelia, Uwuguaya
I always think of it the same way Aussies, Scottish and Irish folks are: friendly, but you will be called a $!@&}%ing ™πÂ¥%[#
Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Liphia, St Leone, Aephony, Jazur, Tidelia, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire, Thingessness, Silliy
Sir! Why would you say that out loud, especially in public!
Delta Vega Iv, Tiralta, Jazur, Tidelia, Uwuguaya, Thingessness
But you see it's a term of endearment, especially in scotirealialand.
Tiralta, Jazur, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire, Thingessness, Silliy, Pantumaca
Speaking of that, it's funny to me that they, the Aussies use a word that is considered bad in any other English as something like "bro" or "mate"
Yea I'm talking about the c word
Edit, and something like typica said, endearment
I now wonder why that word though
Delta Vega Iv, Tiralta, Jazur, Uwuguaya
ThIs Is AmErIcA!!1!11!!1!
Typica, St Leone, Tiralta, Jazur, Tidelia, Thingessness, B F B
These are the sort of play-by-play live updates I crave.
Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Tiralta, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire, Silliy
What should Refugian look like? I want to have both a romanized version of writing and a purely Refugian one.
Delta Vega Iv, Szalyland, Tidelia, Uwuguaya, Silliy
It should probably look like Accadian hieroglyphs
Jazur, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire
HELLO FRIENDOS NEW COUNCILLOR TERM, NEW POLL
ARGUE PASSIONATELY FOR YOUR CHOICE IN THE RMB
https://www.nationstates.net/region=refugia#poll
Araine, St Leone, Jazur, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire
where's blackare
Tiralta, Duneraven, Jazur, Uwuguaya
Forever in our hearts <3
Chacapoya, Araine, Everetunga-Hari, Duneraven, Jazur, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire, Penocampt, Theadstheadia
i appreciate your suggestion, and accadian hieroglyphs look really cool. however, cuniform script, with all the sharp corners and straight lines, doesn't really fit into how i perceive Refugia. once again, good suggestion, but i will probably not be using it unless there's a specific reason to that i am unaware of.
Szalyland, Tiralta, Jazur, Uwuguaya
Maybe you could use symbols similar to the travel runes we use?
Jazur, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire
If we want it to be a [I]purely[/I] Refugian script, it should probably have something to do with something natural. Ideas:
Curves instead of straight lines (there are way more curves than straight lines in nature, plus curves are more elegant)
Writable on a leaf (or a piece of bark if straight lines are acceptable)
Top-to-Bottom script orientation
Preferably made with something natural or easy to mass-produce without factories
Logographic/pictographic for universal-ish understanding
Also, if we're doing a language and the phonology isn't already done, may I do the phonology? I've made a few languages before and I could at least lay some groundwork for any changes anyone wants to make.
Jazur, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire, Theadstheadia
Um, actually, we are in Refugia🤓
Araine, St Leone, Tiralta, Jazur, Silliy, Pantumaca
Thanks!
Tiralta, Jazur, Tidelia, Uwuguaya
that is more in line with how i perceive Refugia.
as for the phonology, would you like to work together on it? i have a consonant and vowel chart already, but since this is my first conlang i don't have much confidence that they're good ones. i could either post them here or telegram them to you tomorrow
Tiralta, Talmon, Jazur, Uwuguaya
Can't go wrong with Maxtopia >:)
Chacapoya, Typica, Tiralta, Uwuguaya, Silliy
Ou I like that idea, I think the script should looks something like sigils or magical symbols that has intricate designs, with curves and such idk
How about cursive version of it?
I'm not sure, too harsh I feel like for refugia that has nature theme
Or it could be a sister language's script? What do you think
Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire
oh yeah also i just looked at your suggestion again and i actually saw the last one this time
i think pictographic would be awesome but i'm not ready to put that amount of effort into a language. having fancy logographic characters would be cool (like japanese) but i'm not ready to make different symbols for every word.
however, while i was writing this a new idea came to me. what if each word was a small "unit" that was technically its own character, but had clues on how to pronounce it inside the character? i'm not good at describing things, so here is my poor example:
fo
od
it would be two rows for each character, and the next could be seperated by a line or curve or just space, like this
fo
od
ve
ry
ex
ell
ent
more sounds would just expand the word downward
of course, in the actual script, it wouldn't use latin letters and would look a lot more elegant, but i think i got the general idea across.
(i am very proud of this idea, i'm not normally very creative)
could you elaborate? i'm not sure i understand
Jazur, Uwuguaya
The cursive version of the script..?
Uh I don't know how to elaborate though
Jazur
so like another version of the script
i think we could fit that in
we could have one version for leaf-writing (curvy and fancy) and one version for bark/maybe stone (more straight and hard)
(also sorry for the third quote Oldern you made very good suggestions)
Uwuguaya
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mC34NZLFkjljL7ZfEGmgJ3Lf4miHNOVzttvx3SAPHtw/edit?usp=drivesdk
this is the phonology so far (i had to romanize everything cause the IPA symbols aren't on my keyboard, basically everything sounds exactly how it looks) (also yes, nya is a real consonant and i am just putting it in there because it's funny)
also to do "oue", say "ue" (as in blue) and open your mouth a little wider while relaxing your lips
Jazur, Uwuguaya
ItÂ’s my friends birthday yayyy but I am trapped in the capital noooo
Typica, Araine, Szalyland, Aephony, Tiralta, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire, Theadstheadia, Silliy
Hoorayn't
Araine, Tiralta, The Blue Fire
Yeah something like that, a cursive script that would be oftenly written with ink and quil
Still a birthday, so happy birthday Kingdom of B F B lol, hope you are having a good one
Araine, Tiralta, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire
Jazur, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire
i guess it would be, yeah
sucks that i didn't come up with something unique
still want to use it though
Uwuguaya
could you provide me with a link/example? i'm having a hard time trying to find one.
Uwuguaya
Hello people!
I'll be doing some regular games and film nights in the Discord server (https://discord.gg/Rt6uGMsNpr) again, starting with a games night sometime next week - drop into the server for more info and to hang out!
Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Liphia, Jazur, Tidelia, Uwuguaya, Sempera, The Blue Fire, Thingessness, Silliy
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1887384
This should work, just scroll down to the bottom.
Jazur, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire
i really like those
they'll make incredible inspiration, thank you
Typica, Jazur, Uwuguaya
sure, I'd love to work with you on the phonology. I hope you don't mind me trying to apply "universals" created by some college guys back in... 2007? 2008?
(link: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/240751420_Universals_in_phonology (THIRD link I found, the first took forever to load and the second is locked behind a paywall. Commercialization of academia is a corruption of the field.))
I believe what you're describing is a [I]syllabary[/I]. Cherokee is a good example, as are the Kana scripts from Japanese.
We could do one that's both a logography and a syllabary. Chinese has one, for instance. And we don't need a lot of symbols for it either. There are a lot of conlangs (constructed languages) that do a lot with only a few basic pieces that mean very basic things (an example would be aUI or one I made, Nukun Ma'im (working on re-updating the conlang wiki page for it rn))
Jazur, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire
you ever just forget you exist?
Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire, Theadstheadia
in a good way or a bad way?
Uwuguaya, Theadstheadia
Sometimes I remember I exist TOO much
Cheesy Tots, Liphia, Aephony, Tiralta, Jazur, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire, Theadstheadia, Pantumaca, Ban Oldern
Like sleeping? Or unconscious sort of way?
Anyway, about the trading cards collection, I have now just realized that I don't even have the deck capacity to complete my Refugians cards collection, I'm going to have to expand it
Tiralta, Uwuguaya
Baguo definitely
Tiralta
Not familiar, give info
are you on the refugia discord? i think it'd be a little bit easier and faster to communicate through that
(also i can actually post images there)
Typica, Uwuguaya
helo!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!!1!1!1!1!!1!1!1!1!11!1!!1 🥶🥶🥶🥶🤑🤑🤑
Typica, Silliy
If you open the link I posted you can join our Discord server where I'll be hosting film and game nights :D
At the moment I'm just running a whenisgood in there to find out when works for people next week!
Typica, Jazur, Uwuguaya
Just so you all know, it's Refugi, not Refugians :P
Typica, Araine, Liphia, Aephony, Tiralta, Duneraven, Jazur, New Atlantic, Tidelia, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire, Theadstheadia, Pantumaca
Tiralta
Can you share the IPA for "oue"? I'm not sure I get it
I am now.
I believe it's /ɨ/
Typica, Jazur, Uwuguaya, Pantumaca
PERUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Tiralta, Jazur
Have you ever asked yourself the question "I wonder what will be happening in Refugia in September 2023?"
Have I got the answer for you!
plus free horse!
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1926897
The Star Enpire, Typica, Araine, Liphia, Jazur, The Merinos, Ullrani, Uwuguaya, Almander, The Blue Fire, Ansgar, Silliy, Daymo
I kind of wish NS issues were as frequent as or moreso than the (often considerably worse) issues that come up in the US. Having to wait 2.5 real-life scandal-making sessions to vote on whether or not a snowball counts as a cluster bomb is [I]outrageous[/I].
Typica, Aephony, Tiralta, Silliy, Daymo
I had the weirdest dream tonight
On that note, what was your weirdest dream experience?
Tiralta, Uwuguaya
the one dream I remember is that I lived in Tennessee except it replaced England geographically and we sailed over to Germany (the Netherlands apparently got annexed at some point) to blow up some stuff, then had some books we had to give to them and one of them was a kid's book with SpongeBob except like the sonic.exe thing
also Germany looked like Minecraft for some reason
if anyone knows how to get even a semblance of logic out of this lmk it's bothered me on-and-off for a year
EDIT: in case anyone is wondering, I have never lived in Tennessee.
Aephony, Tiralta, Estebere, Uwuguaya, Daymo
forgetting my dreams.
Okay that was a joke, the actuall one was sledding in a school gym and everyone turning into cardboard! :D
[sub]why do i remember that clearly[/sub]
Typica, Aephony, Tiralta, Zabruhmoment Of Vehemesht, Estebere, Uwuguaya
I had something to say about Frozen and King Midas but I forgot it and I have no idea what it was even gonna be
Honestly I have no idea how you even remember any of that, but that's really interesting. Well, it's weird but same difference when it comes to dreams
Tiralta, Uwuguaya
I had a dream once where cars didnÂ’t come with their mirrors, you had to buy them separately.
I was baffled by this and spent the entire dream desperately trying to convince everyone that they used to just come with the mirrors already attached. No one believed me. The dream people just kept saying itÂ’s always been that way and that having the mirrors come with the car would be stupid.
I got gaslit by a dream.
Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Uwuguaya
Tiralta
IÂ’m back and IÂ’m trying to be more active, so I restarted my elections, so go to me Facebook of which ideology I should be
Uwuguaya
I had a fully lucid dream once, where I was aware I was in a dream (I was having a meeting in my mum's bathroom and suddenly went "wait, this isn't real!). However I used to be a sleep talker and suddenly became really worried that this might also apply to sleep walking, so if I walked downstairs and out the door in my dream, maybe I'd do that in real life and it would be unsafe. So I wasted most of my lucid dream experience yelling at the top of my voice and flinging my arms about so my wife would wake me up if that translated to yelling and thrashing in real life, before deciding that I was too afraid of putting myself in an unsafe situation and waking myself up. Turns out I shouldn't have worried though.
I've had semi lucid dreams since, where I'm aware I'm dreaming but I'm not able to control the dream environment like I was in that dream, so I'm kinda annoyed my cautiousness wasted the opportunity.
Typica, Araine, Liphia, Aephony, New Atlantic, The Blue Fire, Ethierys
Post self-deleted by Aephony.
The problem with great dreams is that I wake up and desperately wish I could go back :c
Typica, Tiralta, Zabruhmoment Of Vehemesht, New Atlantic, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire, Ethierys
Post self-deleted by Zabruhmoment Of Vehemesht.
me too lol
DefinitelyÂ
And aloo gobi is good too!
Tiralta
Inspired by all the dream talk, a weekend poll. Thanks for the inspiration Estebere!
https://www.nationstates.net/region=refugia#poll
Araine
I picked other on the poll because my one dream in recent memory had absolutely zero mention of any characteristics of mine besides my name, and so I have absolutely no clue whether or not my details were correct in the dream. Most of my "dreams" per se are just stories I think about before going to bed. I have 3 big ones at this point. None of those include me. Ever.
Tiralta, Uwuguaya
I often dream without being anyone at all. Just a passive viewer watching some forgettable drama.
Araine, Tiralta, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire
That's cool! Even though I may daydream a little before I sleep in order to switch the old brain off, they don't seem to influence my dreams at all. I love how everyone's mind is so completely different!
That's also so interesting to me. Kinda then like watching a tv show?
Typica, The Blue Fire
That's... actually, that's surprisingly realistic. Like, could be a weird Universe realistic. It would have to be a really weird universe, but still, technically possible.
I... I... I just... How do you even remember that dream? But also, that's kinda interesting. By the way, what's the ring?
Yeah, that's unfortunate. But who knows, maybe you'll have one soon! Although, now that I think about it... do you remember what that meeting was even about?
Oh I've never had gobi, gimme a sec... Ok, searched it up, seems really interesting. Maybe I'll try it someday.
As for my dreams, the dream that inspired me was, as far as I could tell, fully auditiory, with me just squirming around in my bed trying to get comfortable. I think I was a student in a school and I was trying to sort out a grading problem but then it went into a full on conspiracy and... I also have an uncomfortably vivid memory of a naku weed like thing sprouting from the inside of my elbow. Weird. Lastly, I have a minor memory of spending a ton of time in a dream where I think I was in a magic school in a mountain with Ninjago/Monkey Kid esque styling.
Tiralta, The Blue Fire
I never dream.
Typica, Aephony, Tiralta
I honestly never remember my dreams. I get them for sure, but they slip my mind so easily. ItÂ’s pretty much like this:
Me: *wakes up* damn that dream was crazy
Brain: what dream?
Typica, Tiralta, The Blue Fire, Boxiia
bro gets gaslit by his own brain
skill issue, could definitely[/I] be me frfr
Typica, Tiralta, Sempera, The Blue Fire, Niredom
I generally dream of myself as a different person. It's usually the same one (a made up one), but I'm certain it's not a version of me because she acts nothing like me.
Typica, Aephony, Tiralta
Some sort of famous scary movie. I kept the dream in my head and then told my mom and kept spreading the story from there, therefore memorizing it
Tiralta, Uwuguaya
I have aphantasia and almost never see anything when I dream. Usually my dreams are just thoughts/stories but occasionally I see a series of pictures like a comic strip with only a couple of panels in the whole dream. And IÂ’m always lucid. I dream as myself but I might be me in a different world with a different backstory, name, or species. Usually I just dream about ordinary boring things that might have happened irl, and it can be confusing because my dreams sometimes feel the same as memories. Being able to see when I dream would be so cool!
Typica, Tiralta, Uwuguaya, Pantumaca, Ban Oldern
is there a word for partial aphantasia? I would say I did have aphantasia if it weren't for a singular exception, which is the dream I talked about as like the first response to the poll
Tiralta, Uwuguaya
We don't have an option called "all of the above"
Uwuguaya
Good for you
again, all of the aboveUwuguaya
I guess that falls under "another thing I'll tell you about on the RMB".
I dream a mixture of things but I kinda saw the first few options at least as going up in levels of "self"-ness, so although I don't always swap characters in my dreams I chose that one.
This is so cool, I have aphantasia too but I just can't picture things while I'm awake. When I sleep I have pretty vivid visual dreams that I then remember in descriptive words and space/motion the same way I remember memories the rest of the time.
Typica, Araine, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire, Thingessness
That sounds so wild. Kinda wish I could experience this. I wonder if this might make communicating some things easier. When I imagine something I want, I might struggle a bit to put words to thoughts or risk saying something like "would you hand me a thing with the thing on the side for holding the stuff in it ... you want a coffee mug?.. ya ya gimme please"
I'm speculating, does expressing your thoughts always seem easy or do you sometimes struggle too?
Araine, Tiralta, The Blue Fire
This seems to be what I have except most of the time I don't have visual dreams either.
Until yesterday I'd never heard of it, I just thought that that was how it worked.
Typica, Araine, Tiralta, The Blue Fire
Yeah, I struggle a bit with that, but my main struggle in terms of expressing thoughts is that I can struggle to write down my thoughts in a way I'm happy with (i.e. for assignments and such). I also tend to stammer a lot when I talk about stuff I'm thinking about because I'm trying to convert the words in my head into real words.
On a side note, is this just psychology weekend or something?
Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire, Toothbrush
My apologies, but I may extend my deadline to make the next Mattachine Press by several weeks. It might be good to take a brief hiatus to make sure I have enough inspiration to make a quality paper, to adjust to a recent schedule change, and to experiment with other region worldbuilding projects.
Thanks y'all for your patience and your help, the newspaper will resume shortly, although maybe to be released on a monthly basis,
- Talmon
- Talmon.
Typica, Araine, Liphia, Tiralta, Jazur, The Merinos, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire, Penocampt, Ban Oldern
IÂ’m autistic so I struggle to communicate my thoughts in a way that other people understand. And even though I think in words, I still sometimes forget what things are called and/or switch words or letters in my brain! I do have a large vocabulary and good understanding of language and grammar because of it though. I also learned to read when I was two. I canÂ’t imagine how I thought before then because I genuinely only think in words (although my emotions arenÂ’t words). In addition to having aphantasia, I canÂ’t imagine smell or taste either!
This is really interesting! I read a while ago that most people with aphantasia do have vivid dreams and they just canÂ’t consciously access visual imagery. So Ban Oldern if you see when you dream that is still full aphantasia! Nobody knows why some people can see in dreams and others canÂ’t. The thing I really wish I could do is picture things when I read books. I love reading but itÂ’s sad when all of the imagery that authors create stays as just words in my brain.
Typica, Tiralta, Jazur, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire
THATS MEEEEE <33333
Typica, Tiralta, Jazur, B F B, Tay-Mania, Ban Oldern
Cool!
Typica, Tiralta
Like Araine I'm also autistic and I struggle to express my thoughts in ways that make sense to others. Especially if I'm thinking in space/motion rather than a description, it can be hard to put that into words for somebody else.
Sometimes the descriptive memory I have for items doesn't line up with a name, in my house paperclips are now known as "silver things that go round and round" because I completely forgot the name and my wife could not work out what I meant at all by that description.
Typica, Araine, Jazur, The Blue Fire, Ban Oldern
Are any of ya'll good with computers? I plan to upgrade my graphics card to a 3060, but I have a hard time selecting other parts. Namely the CPU, power supply, and RAM.
Uwuguaya
I might be a complete idiot but I would imagine you could theoretically use your current computer as a base, take out the graphics card, and put in a new one so you're not necessarily having to make a whole new computer from scratch. Then again, I might be a complete idiot.
[I](did research to make sure I wasn't some bumbling idiot about to ruin your computer, found a site that talks you through the process and it is indeed possible. Link here: https://www.techsoup.org/support/articles-and-how-tos/upgrading-computer-components[/I]
The Merinos, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire
That's fine, always remember that quality should never be overshadowed by quantity. I would like to know though: What kinds of projects would "Other region worldbuilding projects' entail, if you've decided what those are?
Tiralta, Talmon, Jazur, The Blue Fire, Penocampt
in terms of a power supply, you'll need one that pushes out 550W or more. 12 GB GDDR6 / 8 GB GDDR6 is recommended for RAM. And as for a CPU, Intel core i5 11600k is recommended
Tiralta, Jazur, The Merinos
I almost always dream in third person, so IÂ’m not really anyone, IÂ’m just watching. It doesnÂ’t feel like IÂ’m really making any decisions or anything because it doesnÂ’t feel like the actions are my own, IÂ’m just watching everything happen and canÂ’t influence anything. ItÂ’s like a movie.
IÂ’m usually watching myself do dream stuff, but itÂ’s not uncommon for me to just not be in the dream at all and IÂ’m just watching my friends and/or family or even sometimes just random dream people. When I do dream in first person, which is rare, I think IÂ’ve always been myself.
Curiously, all the lucid dreams IÂ’ve ever had (a grand total of two) were during rare dreams that were in first person. All those third person dreams seem perfectly normal to me when IÂ’m having them and I canÂ’t actually tell that IÂ’m dreaming.
Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, Uwuguaya, The Blue Fire, North Evous Belerle
Changed my flag to the former Sutherland flag as a provisional thing while I search for one, how do y'all like it?
Typica, Tiralta, Uwuguaya, Sempera, Thingessness
IÂ’m not sure yet, I was thinking of trying a fictional broadcasting network again, or something similar
Tiralta, Jazur, Uwuguaya
Civil War has broken out in St.Leone!
The bulletin is not completely done, but I figured I could share it regardless :D
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1928038
The Star Enpire, Typica, Tiralta, Jazur, The Merinos, Ullrani, Uwuguaya, Ethierys, Pantumaca
I may try and get involved for the Socialist People's Union of Leoneia and/or the Monarchist Alliance (mainly just against the Grandee and the Junta)
St Leone, Tiralta, Uwuguaya
I have made an RP board on the Refugia Discord Server, if you wanna engange in RP there ^^
Tiralta, Jazur, Uwuguaya
Quick question for role-play purposes, does Refugia have some general currency? And, if so, how is it in relation to other currencies (such as the USD)
Uwuguaya, North Evous Belerle
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