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Sylh Alanor wrote:Welcome Shagstanbull, Eldri, Uwuvania, Freeweland, Calimero, Shigannur_Hyejin, Democratic_Republic_Of_Kwangya, and Avantiana to Refugia!

It's so nice to have you all here! There’s a lot of great information in the welcome telegram you’ve already received, but I have a few things that might help settling into the region easier. Refugia is part of a larger community named Calamity Refuge, or CalRef. We have a discord here: https://calref.network/chat/ and a forum here: https://calref.cc/index.php. Links for both are in the region description box at the top of this page. We host game nights and movie nights from the discord server from time to time. On the forum we have RPs and spam games (not really related to NS). If you want a place to just chill and talk to friendly people, those are great spaces for that.

If you haven't already done so, please consider joining the World Assembly and endorsing the delegate (that's me!). Click the link to learn more information on what that means and how to do it. If you join the World Assembly, you can endorse as many other nations in the region as you want, and get endorsed in return. You'll also become a Refugia Member State, which means you can vote in our elections and get a spot on our map of Refugia!

If you have any questions, please let us know. Everyone here is really friendly- I think we’ve only ever had one fatality from an introduction. If you prefer to read something pre-written over asking, however, check out this dispatch: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1449847

Finally, if you are an alt nation (which just means if the nation tagged in this welcome message is not your main nation on NationStates), it is required by regional law for you to report your main nation and intentions in Refugia to the Operations Councillor (that's A Million Dreams!) Thanks so much.

Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Ullrani, Eldri, Fadnesia, Greaterburg

pls help me. over 150 new mesagges

Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Eldri

Ullrani wrote:pls help me. over 150 new mesagges

Very well, here's another!

Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Ullrani

Ullrani wrote:pls help me. over 150 new mesagges

and don´t forget to sign up on snake rights ;D

Cheesy Tots, Typica, Tiralta

Post self-deleted by Eldri.

I'm creating the story for the Duchy of Eldri, I gave up the Theocracy of Eldri

Cheesy Tots, Typica, Tiralta

Hello

Typica, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Ullrani

Tidelia wrote:Hello

Hello

Tiralta

Cheesy Tots wrote:WA snip

Reading through it this morning, I'm most concerned by 2.b.iii:

Ensure that all artworks being loaned to the gallery are of a reasonable size, moral decency, and have not been illegally or immorally sourced.

Firstly because there is plenty of art that is tiny, and in my opinion, more impressive for being tiny, but secondly because moral decency is too much of a gray area for me as it can vary between nations. For a bland example, one nation may have art that glorifies war, which I would find immoral, so how is it decided whose morality is correct? Even though it would ban plenty of things I think we can all agree on, there are too many things which nations could disagree over.

While I agree broadly with the intention to support the arts, I think I'll have to vote against on this one.

Delta Vega Iv, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Ullrani

Cheesy Tots wrote:I like art and there's a resolution on art called International Art Gallery so let's talk about art.

[--SNIP--]

So - what do y’all think on this?

I'm concerned about 2.b.iv:

"If a piece becomes impossible..."

"A piece" is not defined anywhere in the resolution and it is unclear a piece of what is being discussed here. Especially since the PIECE is defined elsewhere as something else.

Sorry, all these catchy acronyms are a cause for more confusion than clarification In My Humble Opinion.

Cheesy Tots, Refuge Isle, Tiralta

And regarding the issue of Snakes and Spiders:

Snakes are sneaky and should be banned. Spiders, on the other hand, are responsible for the World Wide Web!

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, St Leone, Tiralta, Prodigal

Delta Vega Iv wrote:And regarding the issue of Snakes and Spiders:

Snakes are sneaky and should be banned. Spiders, on the other hand, are responsible for the World Wide Web!

i think snakes should be respected for what they are. and they help getting rid of rodents.

Delta Vega Iv

Commutia wrote:i think snakes should be respected for what they are. and they help getting rid of rodents.

but rodents are chill

Waywards Edge wrote:but rodents are chill

not if they ruin your crop

Delta Vega Iv

Commutia wrote:not if they ruin your crop

better than the locusts eating all your crops

Waywards Edge wrote:better than the locusts eating all your crops

id still love my snakes around

Delta Vega Iv

Commutia wrote:id still love my snakes around

id rather have a couple of species of rodents, as they could live here

Animals should have the ability to apply for citizenship in general, methinks... That's the policy in Amiyoka.

Of course, their criminal record would need to be examined before getting accepted.

Delta Vega Iv

Commutia wrote:i think snakes should be respected for what they are. and they help getting rid of rodents.

Snakes are admirable for their intelligence, but the metaphorical and spiritual context behind them is what makes me iffy to go near them. I'm not saying I hate them, all I'm saying is that I'd prefer to admire them from a distance.

Delta Vega Iv, Typica

Delta Vega Iv wrote:And regarding the issue of Snakes and Spiders:

Snakes are sneaky and should be banned. Spiders, on the other hand, are responsible for the World Wide Web!

Spiders are pretty chill, they're just trying to survive like everyone else

Delta Vega Iv, Typica

Amiyoka wrote:Animals should have the ability to apply for citizenship in general, methinks... That's the policy in Amiyoka.

Of course, their criminal record would need to be examined before getting accepted.

Prodigal doesn't necessarily have those types of animal rights, but all animals can be service workers for certain people if trained properly.

Amiyoka

Prodigal wrote:Spiders are pretty chill, they're just trying to survive like everyone else

spider give me the creeps.

(thanks to my Arachnophobia)

Delta Vega Iv, Prodigal

Commutia wrote:spider give me the creeps.

(thanks to my Arachnophobia)

I used to have the absolute WORST arachnophobia, I would fall out of my chair if a saw a picture of one pop up. But in time, I learned to just observe them and I realized that they're really cool animals, their webs, behaviors, and routines. They may seem small and creepy, but most fish in the ocean look like aliens. If I can get over the weirdness of some aquatic life, I could become comfortable co-existing with our eight legged friends.

All you gotta worry about is not scaring the spider itself :D

Delta Vega Iv, Tiralta

Prodigal wrote:I used to have the absolute WORST arachnophobia, I would fall out of my chair if a saw a picture of one pop up. But in time, I learned to just observe them and I realized that they're really cool animals, their webs, behaviors, and routines. They may seem small and creepy, but most fish in the ocean look like aliens. If I can get over the weirdness of some aquatic life, I could become comfortable co-existing with our eight legged friends.

i don´t get scared when i see a picture of them but i do get scared when it is not a picture

Tiralta, Prodigal

Commutia wrote:i don´t get scared when i see a picture of them but i do get scared when it is not a picture

I get that friend :D Especially when it disappears lol I still get mini heart attacks sometimes lol. Brown Recluses are no joke when it comes to venom.

Typica, Tiralta

question is Sealand a country? (it is)

Waywards Edge, Amiyoka

Remnants Of The Pacific wrote:question is Sealand a country? (it is)

Can a country exist on a rusty British anti-aircraft platform? (it has more stability that the British government)

Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, St Leone, Remnants Of The Pacific, Tiralta, The Pacific Northwest, Waywards Edge, Prodigal

Refuge Isle wrote:Can a country exist on a rusty British anti-aircraft platform? (it has more stability that the British government)

lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

if I could t!rep you here, I would xD

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Junitaki-Cho, Remnants Of The Pacific, Tiralta

Wow I leave for a few months and I can now endorse 345 nations... or I somehow left the world assembly

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Liphia, Tiralta, Prodigal

Remnants Of The Pacific wrote:Wow I leave for a few months and I can now endorse 345 nations... or I somehow left the world assembly

I think inactivity can get you booted, but i'm not sure about that, I do know that Refugia has been growing by the day.

Remnants Of The Pacific wrote:or I somehow left the world assembly

Nope, a big surge of people joined from TikTok, so there was quite a boom in Refugi.

Remnants Of The Pacific wrote:Wow I leave for a few months and I can now endorse 345 nations... or I somehow left the world assembly

time flies by when you forget to answer your NS issues

Typica

Amiyoka wrote:Nope, a big surge of people joined from TikTok. So there was quite a boom in Refugi.

from tiktok? what do you mean?

Prodigal

Remnants Of The Pacific wrote:from tiktok? what do you mean?

A TikTok video about NS went viral, so that made a lot of people get the game

Prodigal

Remnants Of The Pacific wrote:from tiktok? what do you mean?

I would also like to inquire

Amiyoka wrote:A TikTok video about NS went viral, so that made a lot of people get the game

Wow. A platform that has so much influence it can make a text based role playing game popular

What did I miss? I’m asking because there is a lot of notifications.

Anatopen wrote:What did I miss? I’m asking because there is a lot of notifications.

sealand

Waywards Edge wrote:sealand

What the hell does that mean?

Anatopen wrote:What the hell does that mean?

look it up

Anatopen wrote:What the hell does that mean?

Sealand=life

Waywards Edge wrote:sealand

I know about the country it’s off the coast of Britain but what do you mean

Prodigal wrote:I think inactivity can get you booted, but i'm not sure about that, I do know that Refugia has been growing by the day.

Sleeper activity can get you booted, but that requires you never being active in the region. Remnants, who has been active, dropped their WA and rejoined, so they have to re-endorse all the people.

Typica, Tiralta, Prodigal

Sylh Alanor wrote:Sleeper activity can get you booted, but that requires you never being active in the region. Remnants, who has been active, dropped their WA and rejoined, so they have to re-endorse all the people.

well I didnt leave the WA willingly so now I have to pay the price for leaving ns

Typica, Sylh Alanor

Waywards Edge wrote:look it up

I know about the country what the f*ck does it have to do with the over a hundred notifications though

Remnants Of The Pacific wrote:well I didnt leave the WA willingly so now I have to pay the price for leaving ns

It happens. Yeah we had a large spike in new nations and have been doing our best to integrate people and keep activities rolling so they're interested. We also just had an election which is exciting.

Typica, Tiralta, Prodigal

Anatopen wrote:I know about the country what the f*ck does it have to do with the over a hundred notifications though

I'm saying to look at the chat, not look it up... oh god i accidently added it. I meant "look up" as in look up in the chat. I feel so dumb.

Waywards Edge wrote:I'm saying to look at the chat, not look it up... oh god i accidently added it. I meant "look up" as in look up in the chat. I feel so dumb.

Oh and there was a whole think about snakes and rights

Waywards Edge wrote:Oh and there was a whole think about snakes and rights

Let me guess Commutia am I right?

Anatopen wrote:Let me guess Commutia am I right?

communtia

Waywards Edge wrote:communtia

Figured well there my ally so snakes rights i guess does that mean we can no longer use them in our human sacrifices or do they have to be made priests

Typica, Sylh Alanor

King Ian the 13th has officially come of age all ambassadors to the kingdom are invited to the royal palace to take part in the coronation and feast guards will be all through out the palace and the reserve army will be marching through the capital to ensure the former incident does not repeat itself special rights will be given to the Hans corporations ambassador as well as the Commutian ambassador

The Han Corporation Coalition

Anatopen wrote:King Ian the 13th has officially come of age all ambassadors to the kingdom are invited to the royal palace to take part in the coronation and feast guards will be all through out the palace and the reserve army will be marching through the capital to ensure the former incident does not repeat itself special rights will be given to the Hans corporations ambassador as well as the Commutian ambassador

WE has decided to send the highest current rank in the country, and that appears to be the Senior Ambassador.

Waywards Edge wrote:Oh and there was a whole think about snakes and rights

Honestly, Refugia's message board always has something interesting to talk about.

Sylh Alanor, Tiralta, Anatopen

Prodigal wrote:Honestly, Refugia's message board always has something interesting to talk about.

ain't my first rodeo there

first meme conversation I had really was either the railgun or the WESLR thing. Maybe something else, but I'd rather not say, because they got banned shortly after.

Anatopen

Waywards Edge wrote:WE has decided to send the highest current rank in the country, and that appears to be the Senior Ambassador.

The senior ambassador will be greeted at the docks and escorted to the palace by the royal guard they shall wait in the royal courtyard until the other ambassadors have arrived and then the ceremony shall begin

Prodigal wrote:Honestly, Refugia's message board always has something interesting to talk about.

That is the divine truth isn't it well at least that’s a good thing

Prodigal, Wolfielandia

Waywards Edge wrote:ain't my first rodeo there

first meme conversation I had really was either the railgun or the WESLR thing. Maybe something else, but I'd rather not say, because they got banned shortly after.

Aw, we can mention the Fruit War, it's fine and saying that it happened has never been the problem. It's just that immediately after, when we were all pretty heartbroken over banning someone who'd been a friend for a few years, seeing "haha we won the other side got banned" was what we wanted to avoid cause losing a friend wasn't ever something we wanted to see celebrated.

But talking about the Fruit War, saying we had fun, or that it was an important event to a lot of us, that's fine, and it's all good to acknowledge the nice stuff. ^^

Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Portmanteau

Within the hour the coronation will began the lack of appearance of multiple nations has been noted not that it is surprising considering the kingdoms isolationist nature

Commutia

Tiralta wrote:Aw, we can mention the Fruit War, it's fine and saying that it happened has never been the problem. It's just that immediately after, when we were all pretty heartbroken over banning someone who'd been a friend for a few years, seeing "haha we won the other side got banned" was what we wanted to avoid cause losing a friend wasn't ever something we wanted to see celebrated.

But talking about the Fruit War, saying we had fun, or that it was an important event to a lot of us, that's fine, and it's all good to acknowledge the nice stuff. ^^

Oh, I just thought I that some people would still be heartbroken, and I didn't want to be rude to those people.

Was pretty fun overall though.

Tiralta

Anatopen wrote:Within the hour the coronation will began the lack of appearance of multiple nations has been noted not that it is surprising considering the kingdoms isolationist nature

Amiyokan journalists have been depressed due to the limited availability of news feed from Anatopen concerning the coronation.

Amiyoka wrote:Amiyokan journalists have been depressed due to the limited availability of news feed from Anatopen concerning the coronation.
the chief diplomat has spoke to the grand marshal about this and we have decided that so long as they agree to under guard journalists will allowed into the coronation ceremony (note this is a very generous thing considering the fact previous rulers would have had anyone besides ambassadors executed for entering the royal court during a coronation a very religiously and culturally important ceremony)

Amiyoka

Anatopen wrote:the chief diplomat has spoke to the grand marshal about this and we have decided that so long as they agree to under guard journalists will allowed into the coronation ceremony (note this is a very generous thing considering the fact previous rulers would have had anyone besides ambassadors executed for entering the royal court during a coronation a very religiously and culturally important ceremony)

Amiyoka will be selecting only our most trusted journalists, who are very experienced at this sort of job!

The coronation is now occurring for the fist time in history foreign journalists are allowed in the royal court during the ceremony many traditionalist are furious and blame the king(I’m considering putting details of the coronation in a factbook if you want to learn what the journalists saw let me know and I will make a factbook on it)

Anatopen wrote:(I’m considering putting details of the coronation in a factbook if you want to learn what the journalists saw let me know and I will make a factbook on it)

Our foreign relations officers can telegram you the details of the news recorded by the journalists, give us a bit to collect the information.

Anatopen wrote:The coronation is now occurring for the fist time in history foreign journalists are allowed in the royal court during the ceremony many traditionalist are furious and blame the king

Many Amiyokans watching the news can see the obvious anger of the Anatopen citizens, and are anxious at the anger of the Anatopians. The journalists have made sure to remove all flash photography, and are attempting to follow the rules as close as possible out of respect for Anatopian culture.

Anatopen

A group of army commanders veterans of the civil war left the ceremony early many could hear them say “we fought to preserve our traditions not to destroy them”

Amiyoka wrote:Our foreign relations officers can telegram you the details of the news recorded by the journalists, give us a bit to collect the information.

Many Amiyokans watching the news can see the obvious anger of the Anatopen citizens, and are anxious at the anger of the Anatopians. The journalists have made sure to remove all flash photography, and are attempting to follow the rules as close as possible out of respect for Anatopian culture.

We will give time for the telegram and we thank you for trying to respect our traditions many hardliners don’t seem to be less angered though

Amiyoka

Anatopen wrote:A group of army commanders veterans of the civil war left the ceremony early many could hear them say “we fought to preserve our traditions not to destroy them”

Amiyokan journalists have left after seeing the draining crowd to avoid any tension between Amiyoka and Anatopen, for the journalism was an attempt to grow closer to the nation's culture and its people. Amiyokan citizens are respectful of the footage, and many news presses are requesting the government to request which footage the officials of Anatopen would like us to display on the news. The news editing has commenced, and the Foreign Managing sector of the Parliament is preparing to send the footage to Anatopenian officials!

Anatopen

Amiyoka wrote:Amiyokan journalists have left after seeing the draining crowd to avoid any tension between Amiyoka and Anatopen, for the journalism was an attempt to grow closer to the nation's culture and its people. Amiyokan citizens are respectful of the footage, and many news presses are requesting the government to request which footage the officials of Anatopen would like us to display on the news. The news editing has commenced, and the Foreign Managing sector of the Parliament is preparing to send the footage to Anatopenian officials!

The king will consult the Naltesaz (our parliament) before making a decision on what footage can be released

A group of civil war veterans have surrounded the royal palace in protest many insult the current monarch, advisory council, and government in general one political group the Order of the White Elephant appears to be leading the protest

Dock workers have refused to make the ships ready for the journalists to leave in response the king has his personal ship take them back to their homeland

Anatopen wrote:The king will consult the Naltesaz (our parliament) before making a decision on what footage can be released

The Naltesaz has deliberated and declared that all footage can be released to the public upon the condition that the most important artifacts be blurred from the footage and their names be censored

Amiyoka wrote:Amiyokan journalists have left after seeing the draining crowd to avoid any tension between Amiyoka and Anatopen, for the journalism was an attempt to grow closer to the nation's culture and its people. Amiyokan citizens are respectful of the footage, and many news presses are requesting the government to request which footage the officials of Anatopen would like us to display on the news. The news editing has commenced, and the Foreign Managing sector of the Parliament is preparing to send the footage to Anatopenian officials!

Do you agree to the terms of the Naltesaz

Amiyoka

The Anatopen-Commutian League has been established any nation is allowed to apply for membership however both Anatopen and Commutia must approve of them before they can join the alliance

Commutia

A member of the Order of the White Elephant has committed ritual suicide in protest to the kings actions regarding the coronation (the member was the prime minister)

What is happening right now?

Rupika wrote:What is happening right now?

Possibly Anatopen civil war part 2 attack of the nationalists

Rupika wrote:What is happening right now?

Alliances are formed

Anatopen

Anatopen wrote:Possibly Anatopen civil war part 2 attack of the nationalists

please try holding togther for one second

Anatopen

Anatopen wrote:King Ian the 13th has officially come of age all ambassadors to the kingdom are invited to the royal palace to take part in the coronation and feast guards will be all through out the palace and the reserve army will be marching through the capital to ensure the former incident does not repeat itself special rights will be given to the Hans corporations ambassador as well as the Commutian ambassador

Thank you for inviting us to the thing

Anatopen

Commutia wrote:please try holding togther for one second

Don’t worry it was a joke maybe

The Han Corporation Coalition wrote:Thank you for inviting us to the thing

Your welcome trade partners are always given special treatment

Commutia wrote:please try holding togther for one second

The prime minister committed ritual suicide in protest of government actions and an ultra nationalist group is criticizing the government so yeah maybe a joke maybe not

Anatopen wrote:Possibly Anatopen civil war part 2 attack of the nationalists

Yeah i can see why they might rebel again

Anatopen

Rupika wrote:Yeah i can see why they might rebel again

Was it the part 2 joke or the whole thing about nationalist protests

I promise my country is usually very stable (fires from the previous civil war are still burning in the background)

Anatopen wrote:The prime minister committed ritual suicide in protest of government actions and an ultra nationalist group is criticizing the government so yeah maybe a joke maybe not

do you need some stability pills?

Anatopen

Commutia wrote:do you need some stability pills?

I swear I’m stable (riot noises heard in the background)

Anatopen wrote:I swear I’m stable (riot noises heard in the background)

i swear you are the aquivalent of the "this is fine" meme.

Anatopen

Commutia wrote:i swear you are the aquivalent of the "this is fine" meme.

But my country is fine…. Wait hold on another public official commuted ritual suicide need to figure out there job

Commutia wrote:i swear you are the aquivalent of the "this is fine" meme.

It was a general veteran of the civil war

Anatopen wrote:It was a general veteran of the civil war

i know what you must do.

make suicide illigal

Anatopen

Commutia wrote:i know what you must do.

make suicide illigal

But in my culture ritual suicide is not only acceptable but revered as honorable

Anatopen wrote:But in my culture ritual suicide is not only acceptable but revered as honorable

then why is it making people riot?

Chief diplomat was assassinated by a ultra nationalist in protest of his actions his plea is that he did so for the good of the kingdom as such he has been released from police custody (if you couldn’t tell I’m a lot like japan in the 1940s)

Commutia wrote:then why is it making people riot?

Oh they riot against government actions in support of the general who commuted suicide

Anatopen wrote:Chief diplomat was assassinated by a ultra nationalist in protest of his actions his plea is that he did so for the good of the kingdom as such he has been released from police custody (if you couldn’t tell I’m a lot like japan in the 1940s)

Anatopen politics everyone

Anatopen wrote:Anatopen politics everyone

you probaply should try reworking them...

Anatopen

My country’s definition of stable is pretty much anything besides armed rebellion

Anatopen wrote:Oh they riot against government actions in support of the general who commuted suicide

I wouldn’t blame them for protesting about your government

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