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Region: Refugia
You should have gotten a telegram with some instructions
Jazur
The large, socially-minded government juggles the competing demands of Education, Defense, and Welfare. The average income tax rate is 69.0%, and even higher for the wealthy.
heh
Werstonal, Floofybit, Jazur, Southern Skane, Rejakhta
Think of all the mutations we could create with nuclear power, mmm! You gotta love radiation flowing through your blood.
I do not condone creating deformities out of harmable species, that was merely a joke.
Cheesy Tots, Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur, Powesaria
fair enough, i worded my phrasing there a bit weirdly
Nice
Floofybit, Jazur
Aa
Nukesscawy
Floofybit
is the growth rate of population fixed?
Cheesy Tots, Yuelii
in this site, i mean.
Cheesy Tots, Yuelii
I believe your population growth rate grows up until you reach about 60 million, then you get anywhere from 5-7 million randomly per day afterwards.
Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur, Yuelii
Hey all, how rude is it to not endorse back?
I always do, but sometimes even the description of a state that had endorsed me sounds bad enough.
Yuelii, Powesaria
it's really rude to not endorse someone back and by the way this isn't my first or second account.
Jazur, Yuelii, Dimm-A-Land
It's not rude at all to not endorse somebody back.
The main reason you might want to have as many mutual endorsements as possible is because endorsements raise your influence stat. If something ever happens and our founder CTEs (ceases to exist) then having a ton of influence in the region protects us and makes it harder for someone else to take over Refugia - so endorsing someone back is helping to protect the region overall.
However if you really don't want to endorse someone back for whatever reason, that's entirely up to you and nobody can make you! It's cool to endorse our delegate Sylh Alanor of course, all the most epic people do!
I don't know about anywhere else, but in Refugia, who you endorse is up to you even if we encourage endotarting (mass endorsing).
Also, if this isn't your main account please remember that as per regional law you must report your main account and your intentions here to our Ops Councillor, Sylh Alanor ^.^
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Floofybit, Letargia, Jazur, Yuelii, Powesaria
Um.. what?
Jazur, Yuelii
Thanks, that's what I was asking.
Also, I don't get how this second-third account thing relates to me.
Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur, Powesaria
It doesn't, which is why it was below a quote from someone else, responding to them.
Sylh Alanor, Jazur, Yuelii, Powesaria
Not to quibble, but the original quote was responding Letargia
Yuelii
The top quote was, the bottom quote wasn't. The message was edited six minutes before Letargia responded.
The beauty of public timestamps.
Yuelii
Hey yall, just arrived from Balder
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Huliunov, Rejakhta, Dimm-A-Land
Welcome!!
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Tiralta, Huliunov, Dimm-A-Land, Absols
Hello! Here from Divine Mandate of Sanctum
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur, Huliunov, Dimm-A-Land
Ah, I read it as Letargia asking me about why PIIF would bring it up randomly to them.
Hey, welcome new folks!!
Cheesy Tots, Araine, Floofybit, Maunaina, Jazur, Powesaria
Araine, Floofybit, Maunaina, Portmanteau, Jazur
Thanks, yours is great as well :)
Araine, Floofybit, Portmanteau, Jazur, Huliunov, Powesaria
That's actually really cool. Probably the best colour combo 😏
Araine, Maunaina, Portmanteau, Jazur, Powesaria
The white/grey triangle thing signifies mountains (Maunaina means mountain land), and the orange, blue and purple signifies a sunset
Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Portmanteau, Aephony, Tiralta, Jazur
Welcome, new people!
Cheesy Tots, Floofybit
that looks like a recolor of that new Zeeland flag that almsot got through that poll of what flag should be the new flag but got destroyed by a generic flag, but cool
What does the New Zealand flag look like?
British flag with a star formation and blue backround , some time ago some dude wanted to like change the lfag so he did a vote, and a bunch of peopel voted and a bunch of people putted there flags out, and that persons flag looks liek a recolor of that flag
Ah, I see what you mean there
Rupika
I remember when The Merinos was still on of our last freshwater lakes. Yes we must grow but we must protect our fresh water as a region as well.
No more additions to central Refugia, please.
Floofybit, Aephony, Jazur, Powesaria
Nuclear war begins in less than two days. Refugia has long served the role of shielding our friends, and so we shall again.
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Jazur, Waywards Edge
How about desalination plants? With the correct funding, you could get a couple of plants up and you could get water to your people, government sponsored. Waywards Edge would love to help with anybody in the region who needs water, as our government believes it to be a human right.
-Kirsti Alanor, Secretary of External Affairs
Jazur
Ahem...
I'd like to present the Waywards Edge Military Force that will be participating in the Potato Alliance!
Consisting of:
Waywards Edge Shield Defence Command & Military HQ, Serenina (Strategic Specialist)
Archipelago Nine Forward Launch Complex, Archipelago Nine Launch Complex (Military Specialist)
Arcward Economic Shield Defense Base, Arcward City Air Force Base (Economic Specialist)
Waywards Edge Nuclear CommandEconomic Nuclear Shield Base, Ardendal Air Force Base (Economic Specialist)
Waywards Edge Nuclear Command Force A CSG-40, NVWE Captain Torres (Economic Specialist)
A couple more will show up for moral assistance, cause managing 5 will already give me a headache.
-Cassy Singe, Serenina, Lead Chairperson of Waywards Edge
Typica, Sylh Alanor, Jazur, Archipelago Nine, Arcward, Waywards Edge Nuclear Command, Waywards Edge Nuclear Command Force A
We are back in business baby!
-CoS of FLC Archipelago Nine
Jazur, Waywards Edge
Woohoo! My blood's boiling!
-Arcward Airforce Base Chief Master Sergeant Paul Orion
Jazur, Waywards Edge
Happy to help!
-Ardendal Air Force Base Commanding General Ashley Krx'an
Jazur, Waywards Edge
One Million Lives! Don't you see! One Million Lives!
-Captain Torres, before being martyred by "Trigger" of the LRSSG
(Fight me, Captain Torres did nothing wrong Rejakhta)
Jazur, Waywards Edge
Can confirm, this is an effect of triggering.
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Jazur, Waywards Edge
Captain Torres got triggered by those god danged Imperialist Oseans. Dang Trigger and his Imperialist LRSSG.
Free Erusea!
Jazur
Best fruits by colour:
Red: Strawberry
While watermelon is delicious, we can't get to hasty because it can also be green, and raspberries can get sour so I'm giving this one to the sweet, tastes-great-in-chocolate fruit of strawberries!
Orange: Tangerine
The most known orange fruits are usually, well, orange! But since tangerine is probably the best fruit, even better than kumquats and such, I am giving this is the heavenly tangerine!
Yellow: Kiwi
There aren't many yellow fruits, so this can be hard. Bananas aren't really a sweet fruit and lemons are great, just not on their own. However, while usually thought of green, I am giving this to the sweet and juicy golden kiwi!
Green: Watermelon
I would have to go with watermelon, ten out of ten times! It's nice and delicious and really sets you in a summer mood. Plus, the juice is snazzy
Blue: Blueberry
I mean, what else?
Purple: Blackberry
Purple is usually signifies by grapes, but they can be a risky fruit sometimes. While it's called blackberry, this purple fruit is like a less sour, but sweet in many cases, sort of raspberry. It really takes the cake, but it would be wierd in cake, however.
Pink: Grapefruit
Many people think this is too sour or bitter, but the segments can be extremely delightful. They are nice to eat segment by segment, and have a unique flavour burst into your mouth.
Special Recognition: Mango
While this can be classified as many colours, the tropical fruit can be a really special treat to give you a slice of the beach, and goes good in any food. Sometime. So not any food. But it's still wonderous!
Winner?
Well this can be a hard one but if we just-
ALL HAIL THE TANGERINE
Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, Funf
It's so nice to have you all here! Theres a lot of great information in the welcome telegram youve already received, but I have a few things that might help settling into the region easier. Refugia is part of a larger community named Calamity Refuge, or CalRef. We have a discord here: https://calref.network/chat/ and a forum here: https://calref.cc/index.php. Links for both are in the region description box at the top of this page. We host game nights and movie nights from the discord server from time to time. On the forum we have RPs and spam games (not really related to NS). If you want a place to just chill and talk to friendly people, those are great spaces for that.
If you haven't already done so, please consider joining the World Assembly and endorsing the delegate (that's me!). Click the link to learn more information on what that means and how to do it. If you join the World Assembly, you can endorse as many other nations in the region as you want, and get endorsed in return. You'll also become a Refugia Member State, which means you can vote in our elections and get a spot on our map of Refugia!
If you have any questions, please let us know. Everyone here is really friendly- I think weve only ever had one fatality from an introduction. If you prefer to read something pre-written over asking, however, check out this dispatch: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1449847
Finally, if you are an alt nation (which just means if the nation tagged in this welcome message is not your main nation on NationStates), it is required by regional law for you to report your main nation and intentions in Refugia to the Operations Councillor (that's also me!). Thanks so much.
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Jazur, Zhensheng Xue, Xianland
(We here in Rejakhta condemn the actions of Trigger and his allies.)
Jazur, Waywards Edge
(We in Waywards Edge would like to formally request you extradite "Trigger" to Waywards Edge for the murder of our beloved Captain Torres.)
Jazur
(We will not do so, and will instead keep "Trigger" here in Rejakhta.)
Jazur, Waywards Edge
(POV: Trigger is zone of endless and its actually a military secret so you can't extradite him)
Jazur
*genuflects instinctively*
I appreciated the 'special recognition' for the mango, which is among my favorite fruits. I once read that the mango is the fruit which is most widely consumed across the world.
Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur
Ive only ever seen green kiwis so that really threw me for a loop. I had no idea they could even be yellow and I was so confused I forgot to read the rest of the paragraph for a good five seconds.
Pineapple is one of my favorite fruits so Im going to have to disagree regardless. I like fruit that attacks me for eating it.
Also is it just me or does kumquat sound like an insult?
Typica, Sylh Alanor, Werstonal, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur, Xianland
Pineapple is my favourite fruit :D I love that sour tang of a good pineapple.
Typica, Araine, Floofybit, St Leone, Tiralta, Jazur
You're my favourite fruit
Chacapoya, Journia, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, St Leone, Tiralta, Jazur
Aww, thank you pineapple!
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Araine, Floofybit, St Leone, Jazur
Mine are:
Red: Tomatoes - they spark debate over their name pronunciation, and they are the main ingredient in my favourite type of smoothie: ketchup
Orange: Pumpkin - which other fruit has a spice season named after it?
Yellow: Corn - it's corn.
Green: Cucumber - it's light and refreshing and goes well with so many other fruits.
Blue: Yeah you're right, it's blueberries.
Purple: Aubergine, the best of all the berry family.
Pink: Rhubarb
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Portmanteau, St Leone, Jazur
well look who it is back from the dead and still on the map
Cheesy Tots, Floofybit, Aephony, Tiralta, Jazur, Waywards Edge
Mine (100% not based) are:
Red: Apple - Yummy, I like the red ones so it goes here. we don't talk about Red Delicious.
Orange: Orange - Orange? Orange
Yellow: Potato - Fight me potatoes are yellow
Green: Pear - Like apple, but not an apple. Little more sour
Blue: Blueberry - Is blue? yes
Purple: Grapes - Fight me grapes are purple and you aint changing my mind.
-Lemon Party Candidate Bob Kerman, "Wants to abolish Serenina." "Repeal the laws of gravity." "Merge the Great lakes of W.E"
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur
Bouta get an easter egg for that
Cheesy Tots, Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur
well i havent got one yet, but ill hope for one
Cheesy Tots, Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur
Welcome back to real life, how was your stay in heaven?
Cheesy Tots, Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur
Good luck
Jazur
1. Peaches
2. Raspberries
3. Granny Smith Apples
4. Red dragon fruit
5. Plums
Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Portmanteau, Aephony, Tiralta, Jazur
well I was in america and then I rose to heaven now im in the freezing wastes of canada so...
Typica, Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur, Waywards Edge, Amiyoka
Living the dream, to be sure
Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Tiralta, Jazur
I was in the US a while back.
I did not rise to heaven cx
Typica, Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur, Waywards Edge
America! We have non nuclear power! We need to get dat nuclear power. gib fusion power. Thanks. Fusion power is a meme, we need it though.
Although if anybody would like to explain how this doesn't violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics, please do explain
Remnants Of The Pacific, Jazur, West Remeshile
Red: I like strawberries! They're very classic and I like to put them in my water.
Orange: Tangerine! Easy to peel, and I grew up on them. Also very classic.
Yellow: Lemons, but I don't like them alone. I do like them if I put some sugar on them though! They're also charming, love them forever.
Green: GREEN GRAPES FTW!!!!! They're so yummy, I don't know why, and this might be hyperspecific, but they almost taste brisk. And I like poking the skin of it.
Blue: I feel like blueberry is the only viable option for this one, but I like them alright.
Violet: I like blackberries .. . .. . . ....
Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur
May I interest you in the Lemon Party?
Jazur, Amiyoka
I'm listening...
Jazur, Waywards Edge
May I interest you in the Tangerine Party?
Delta Vega Iv, Jazur
The lemon party wishes to abolish Toronto!
Jazur
questions: would you rather drink suspicious swamp water or over expired milk
Floofybit, Jazur
Expired milk, at least I know what's in it 😅
Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Jazur, Zabruhmoment Of Vehemesht
Tell me your incentive, and I may consider >:3
Floofybit, Jazur, Zabruhmoment Of Vehemesht
The place in Canada? But the architecture is so pretty D:
Delta Vega Iv, Floofybit, Jazur, Zabruhmoment Of Vehemesht, Waywards Edge
Post by Ghidorah suppressed by Sylh Alanor.
Well guys The world is ending. I have no idea why its called N-day because it sounds like Ni-
*Gets cut off*
St Leone
Implying slurs is going to carry the same penalty as saying them plainly
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Refuge Isle, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Inaros Opa, Tiralta, The Pacific Northwest, Jazur, Rejakhta, West Remeshile, Funf, Xianland, Socalist Nation Of Pasta
Afternoon.
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Jazur
Afternoon
Sylh Alanor, Felzus, Jazur
Rightbeforenoon
Sylh Alanor, Floofybit, Felzus, Jazur
Rightafternoon
Floofybit, Felzus, Jazur
A list of favorite fruits designed as an affront to God and Floofybit. I approve.
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Floofybit, Everetunga-Hari, Tiralta, Jazur
Evening.
Floofybit, Felzus
Tangerines, representative of the most luscious and delicious fruit, and in companionship with the other best citrus fruits, such as grapefruit and kumquats (not lemons or oranges), we make the juiciest, pro-fruit, anti-meat food group in Refugia.
ALL HAIL THE TANGERINE
Portmanteau, Aephony, Tiralta
Tangerines are genuinely hella juicy and sweet though, valid opinion 👌
Floofybit, Portmanteau, Aephony, Tiralta
*genuflects*
Are clementines the same as tangerines? Because I think I have a preference for clementines, unless I'm simply mistaken about there being a difference.
Floofybit, Tiralta
I only like tangerines when they're raw, green, and look more like a limey drink, just carve a hole and consume the juice until it's just peel. It's good, you should try it
Cheesy Tots, Floofybit, Tiralta
yo wut is this whole 'nuclear' thing thats going on. I joined the potato alliance but what is actually happening with all of this?
I'd recommend our Councillor of Operations' dispatch:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1762982
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Junitaki-Cho, Aephony, Tiralta
Ayeee - another discussion post! This time for Sex Worker Protections Act - thread here!
For a short summary of the resolution, it essentially does five things:
[list=1][*]Legalize the sex industry across all member-nations.
[*]Give free, safe, and effective preventive medical products to sex-workers to minimize their risk whilst preforming their job.
[*]Illegalize coerced sex work or forced participation thereof.
[*]Mandate that sex workers be informed of their rights and duties within their work.
[*]Allow sex workers to report violations of the proposal without fear of retaliation and/or obstruction.[/list]
While I think the purpose of the resolution is solid, there are some weird bits that need to be fixed before I can personally support it.
First,
This doesnt really seem like a good idea to me. I understand the idea behind it is to ensure member-nations dont just end up creating regulations that effectively destroy the industry despite it being legal. But there may be theoretical instances wherein more restrictive action can ensure better safety for everyone involved - putting such measures to their minimum may just result in less effectiveness.Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but this sentence could probably be written a bit better.
Theres also this clause:
I dont really think this is written particularly well, as there is a vast multitude of preventive medical products that arent related to sex-work. One I can think of is cancer screenings, but theres probably others. Point is, this is effectively giving sex workers some kinds of free healthcare items that almost no one else gets - items not necessarily related to their jobs. If there is an aim to give such a large scope of preventive medical care, then it should be done in a resolution for all WA member-state residents - not just sex-workers.The resolution also doesnt really address some key factors like how member-nations should register/identify self-employed sex workers (considering member-states have to disseminate information and medical products to them) or what member-states are expected to do after investigating a reported violation of this resolution. Arguably, this leaves these issues to member-state discretion - which raises problems as nations who oppose sex-work may define self-employed sex-worker in an unreasonable way so as to not provide the mandated things to such workers and/or decide to do nothing after concluding an investigation.
On a smaller note section 4 is almost wholly redundant due to GA#23, which bans sex-trafficking amongst other forms of trafficking. The bits saying people involved with sex-work shouldnt be discriminated against are also probably a bit redundant due to GA#35. While redundancy isnt inherently bad, these characters may have been better used to address the issues I raised in the last paragraph.
For these reasons, I recommend voting AGAINST Sex Worker Protections Act - I do think its a good idea, but it should probably get a few more tweaks.
What do yall think?
Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Maunaina, Aephony, Tiralta
Ooh, I got a variety of roles. I'm a military specialist and my alts are strategic and economic specialists!
Cheesy Tots, Tiralta
:hyper:
Floofybit, Tiralta
Evening
Floofybit, Jazur
If that doesn't sell you, we would like to repeal the laws of gravity!
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Tiralta, Jazur
Mine too, especially on pizzas 😈
Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur, Rejakhta
😤
Sylh Alanor, Werstonal, Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur
Strong support.
Typica, Floofybit, Jazur
Pineapple Pizza is honestly delicious
Floofybit, Jazur
I dont like meat on my pizzas, fight me
Typica, Araine, Floofybit, St Leone, Tiralta, Jazur
I'm not a fan of olives but pineapple and mushroom is my favourite combo. I agree with your opinion that meat doesn't belong on pizza, all the best ones are vegetarian.
Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Portmanteau, St Leone, Jazur
I can agree on the best pizza is veggie pizza, but I have to say that regardless of how basic it might seem, if you manage to get a good quality Pizza Margherita, then that's the best pizza you can get cx
Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Portmanteau, Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats, Tiralta, Jazur
That sussy swamp water I know I would die with the milk :/
Also Wavattiy is now ZaBruhMoments capital. Informally Zeusar Wavtus.
Jazur
Hey guys!
Tiralta, Prodigal
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