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Region: Refugia
Well then
It seems like a lot has happened
Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur, Waywards Edge
We were talking about how the grape is superior, so yeah.
Tiralta, Jazur
Does grape juice have multiple textures of pulp free, high pulp, etc? Does grape juice work in nearly any fruit smoothie?
Also, is grape a perfect pocket snack? What is more awkward? Holding a couple grapes in your hand, or holding one tangerine with many grape-sized segments inside?
Finally, why do you see citrus flavoured chocolate more often than grapes? Why do I see orange sorbet more than grape sorbet? Why do I see tangerine as a staple of the healthy food plate, but not wine? Even mangoes have a prop up too! They also have their own ice cream. Chocolate covered mangoes are heaven too!
ALL HAIL THE TANGERINE
PRAISE THE MANGO
Tiralta, Jazur
You don't need to deflect harder than a B52 BUFF's Radar cross section.
(For those who don't know: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_B-52_Stratofortress#:~:text=The%20B%2D52's%20official%20name,with%20the%20USAF%20since%201955. BUFF stands for Big Ugly Fat Foxtrot. Decipher that one at will.)
I'll grant you that first one, but only because we don't sell grape juice at our supermarket.
Why are you taking away from Portmanteau's argument? I thought we were done with Nutrition? Does your fruit have an alcohol that can lower (I stress this, IN MODERATION) reduce the risk of heart attacks?
Does your fruit mold so you can poison your enemies?
I didn't think so.
And when did mangoes get pulled into this?
Floofybit, Portmanteau, Jazur
Oh and check your radars on Friday. There will be surprise gift in your airspace ;)
Courtesy of our good friends Rejakhta, who are supplying us with some railguns that can fire grapes.
Oh and be wary of those B-52s, I don't know who put good Waywardian grapes in them... Who knows where those will end up, certainly not over your capital, perhaps?
As my good friends over at Extra Credits (The source of my history videos on YT) said, "The only way to stop a plane is to shoot at it. Which would be an act of war."
(OOC: Friendly terms: Grape bombing raid with Railgun fired grapes for anti air fire.)
Tiralta, Jazur
So the fruit war begins...
Tiralta, Jazur
We don't have alcohol. But we do have this!
"Researchers from Western University say that a molecule called nobiletin that is found in oranges and tangerines can help reverse negative symptoms linked to obesity, heart disease, and diabetes."
Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, Waywards Edge
*Insert the typical redditor response about being pissed off because no source*
actually here let me do my best impression
WhErE Is ThE SouRcE?
Tiralta, Jazur
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/eating-oranges-and-tangerines-can-help-reduce-risk-of-obesity-heart-disease-and-diabetes-030620.html
Here you go!
Tiralta, Jazur, Waywards Edge
Time to do the typical redditor AcYtuaLLy
Tiralta
It's not war, its a bombardment... Of fruit.
Floofybit, Tiralta
Your source is disqualified.
"ConsumerAffairs is not a government agency and may be compensated by companies displayed."
*Puts on tinfoil hat*
How do we know that this survey isn't being compensated by the companies displayed?
Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur
Im just imagining a literal fruit war with people doing things like unleashing the apparently horrid smell of durians on their enemies.
I think Id surrender if someone threw a red delicious apple at me. Those things are terrible and whoever named them lied.
Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur, Waywards Edge
Heh... Heh...
We totally didn't develop durian weapons. Would you like to gain some insight into our durian weapon development?
Come to Area 53 for insight into our "Air launched Durian Canister" (ALDC)
Floofybit, Jazur
Thank god I cannot smell durian, it would be excrutiating to be the average Joe
Floofybit, Jazur, Waywards Edge
When push comes to shove, landing a 95% Durian, 5% Hydrogen, canister in a city center is a tough task. It comes down to the 95th CBRNFW Flight to hand deliver these fine ordinances.
Is this technically a war crime? Yeah. Do we care? Absolutely not.
-Sam Alexi, 95th Chemical Biological Radiation Nuclear Food Weaponry (CBRNFW) Technician, Chief Master Sergeant, MOS 74 Delta
Floofybit, Jazur
Hey wait a minute, isnt the use of biological and chemical weapons a war crime?
Could weaponized stinky fruits be considered a chemical weapon? Are you violating the Geneva Conventions over there or is there some loophole where fruits cant be considered weapons in any sense?
Floofybit, Jazur
What do you think apple pears could be used as? Clubs? Bombs? Shields?
Floofybit, Jazur
I had to look up this fruit, as I'd not heard of it before. Looking through the other names for it, I'm pretty sure I've encountered it by the name of 'asian pear', though I've never had the opportunity to try it. Does it taste more like an apple or a pear? Or something different entirely?
Also, wikipedia lists 'papple' as an alternate name for this fruit, and I think it may be the worst word I've ever heard...
Floofybit, Jazur
Official Hottake of Jazur:
B'ood oranges taste better than tangerines, and grapes are best juiced
-From the Office of East Asumeli
Tiralta, Polushia
I finally finished the flags for my provinces
Typica, Floofybit, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur
Well, then why do you look up "researchers from western university say that a molecule called nobiletin that is found in oranges and tangerines can help reverse negative symptoms linked to obesity, heart disease, and diabetes." you find many other sources that back this up?
Jazur
I like South Mitald the best!
Jazur, Ullrani
You do realize that those researchers could be paid too, right? The reason raisins were promoted as healthy was because of big raisin.
(Food theory did something on this, IIRC)
Tiralta, Jazur
And what if the wine companies were paid to make grapes look better?
Jazur
Whataboutism drinking game, anybody?
Floofybit, Jazur
Also, another point. Underage people or non-alcoholics can't or won't drink wine. Nearly anyone can have tangerine juice!
Jazur, Powesaria
Jazur
Alcohol, even in moderation, can harm underage bodies. Plus, I've never seen wine at any religious ceremony I've been to. It is always water. Also, you'd be surprised how much tangerine juice is sold around
Jazur
Go to a catholic church, you'll see some wine.
Is tangerine juice just orange juice?
Edit: Completely agree with your first point, forgot about it sorry lol
Jazur
Orange juice is more common, but I actually see tangerine juice more often than grape juice.
Plus, I and many other people still don't drink wine. I feel like we should be giving foods that most people can enjoy, to truly know the best
Jazur
Well, that is your choice, and I will respect that. I don't respect your citric friends, however.
Expect a package of grapes over your capital on friday.
Delta Vega Iv, Jazur, Powesaria
I wish to send peace until the situation becomes dire. There is still plenty to peacefully talk over. If you send a package of grapes over the capital, expect a couple of tangerines, in your capital. And no, not your average tangerines. Just the peels with a hidden surprise underneath.
I would like to go back to one of my points. Which is more awkward? Walking around with 8 grapes in your hand, or walking around with a tangerine, containing 8 grape size segments?
Jazur
We were planning on sending a batch of our grapes. Flash frozen. If you seriously want to consider WMDs, may I interest you ALCM: Durian? 75% pure Durian, and 25% [redacted]
That is an opinionated question, to which there can be no real answer.
(OOC: Redacted is the element bromine, which if exposed to human lungs can kill someone fairly quickly, should it fall from the sky, as bromine is a liquidly-gas. The durian is just a smokescreen for the bromine. We have Chemical WMDs)
Jazur, Powesaria
This is completely over the top. What is the reason of harming a friendly neighbour in your same region, just because I don't like grapes? Fruit wars is awesome, but fruit WMD's?! Now that's too far.
And I'm serious, I want to know your opinion on the question.
Edit: this is also fruit wars. We fight and discuss and ban fruits with fruit. We do not play irl chemicals into this.
Jazur
(OOC: You're not supposed to know what [redacted] is. I'm letting you know via out of character)
Hey, if you would have stood down, we wouldn't be having this problem. We are settling this with fruits, not guns. If you want to drop your "Special" Tangerines, I'll use my "Special" durians.
I find it easier to hold 10 grapes and throw them all in my mouth at once. It isn't possible to do that with a Tangerine, now is it?
Jazur
Why would I stand down when you were threatening to drop grapes with the purpose of being weaponry?
Also, you can do that with a tangerine. Break them into segments and pop them in your mouth like grapes
Jazur
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH-
I meant like drop them from parachutes. I should have clarified.
Yeah, but that takes effort...
Floofybit, Jazur
Ooooh. I see. I'll drop tangerines to so we can both try and see if we truly like each other's. I will also stand down from war unless you attack me.
Do you want to know what else takes effort? Taking off the stems and washing grapes. You don't need to do that for a tangerine that is so easy to peel!
Jazur, Waywards Edge
They're very nice looking, well done. I really dig the uniformity in colors, and the recurring use of the fox. They have a cool look when viewed together like that.
Typica, Sylh Alanor, Floofybit, Jazur, Ullrani
Just to make it clear:
Delta Vega IV stands firm by Tangerenism and will oppose any attempt at deposing it from the Fruity Throne.
Floofybit, Jazur, Amiyoka
Buy the ones you don't need to wash then. I mean, I personally like the taste of vinegar, but hey I am kinda weird.
(OOC: we wash our grapes with water then let them sit in vinegar. tastes really good irl)
Okay, but if anything happens to that plane and it crashes onto our capital building like our previous incident, I will start firing ALCM: Durians like passing out halloween candy.
Jazur
Don't worry. There is no danger! Floofybit stands firmly upon limiting the use of planes. Expect your tangerines by hot air balloon!
Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Jazur
OPERATION SOUR GRAPES
* Activate Shields
Bring on your grapes.
Floofybit, Jazur
*sabotages shield*
Okay sure!
So wait... How the heck are you going to fly a hot air ballon over a couple of nations without getting shot down, or using IFF? You are asking to get shot down. I atleast asked before flying over. (HURRY UP Ameth)
Jazur
Actually, I might have to redeploy my one and only carrier to resupply the Avro Vulcan flying to drop your package of grapes. Gotta love those F/A-18 Buddy refueling systems. Makes life so much easier.
(OOC: Avro Vulcan has one the most sophisticated electronic warfare suites on this planet. They were able to break through the US' Strategic Air defense in the 1960s. So if you couldn't sleep well tonight, at least know this bomber could, and did break through US SAD. Sweet dreams)
Edit: wrong plane, it's the Avro Vulcan, not Lancaster.
Delta Vega Iv, Jazur
I only said I would send tangerines by balloon if you sent grapes as a sort of spite trade. Also, why would someone shoot down a hot air balloon? What if it was a person inside?
Delta Vega Iv, Jazur
Disgusting
Floofybit, Jazur
Ask korean airlines flight 007, enroute from Anchorage to Seoul. It was shot down for violating soviet airspace.
Jazur
Routing down from Foxlington, over the Foxlington Strait, over the island, above the sea below, through the natural canal between Aephony and KuybiFox, through the lake, through the canal between Sylh Alanor, and over the sea towards you, going over international waters only, I feel like no one would feel the need to shoot down a balloon with tangerines and a pilot.
Jazur
Also, I forgot to answer the question, but I wanted to back up mangos because I always liked them, and I want to support Mango and Tangerine supporters.
I was for mango and tangerines since the start 🍊🥭
Portmanteau, Jazur
I feel like Sylh owns that canal but I'm probably wrong. Also, you probably need IFF or an automated SAM will literally nuke you. I'm not even joking. Our military defense ADIZ (Aircraft Defense Identification Zone) will kinda just shoot down whatever the heck enters, except for birds and the wildlife. Don't ask, we just dislike the random nerds in F-104C Starfighters and SR-71s going "Look at me! I'm so smart i rebuilt this entire plane from scratch!"
Jazur
Ok smartie, but then why wasn't there an IFF? You can buy one at the parts store for a couple hundred planets. Bruh. Not even. We have smarties, but they don't understand how a freaking IFF system works. I swear. Not even real. I'm convinced that our population has no aerospace engineering colleges.
Jazur
Fair enough. We won't send you tangerines. But you can't send us grapes either.
Jazur
* comes out of the shadows of the meeting room * if you wount buy you twos fruit products how about you buy mine?
Jazur
Who said I didn't ask anybody for airspace permissions? I already have FOBs at St Leone.
Jazur
You have their permission. But not permission to enter it my country as of now
St Leone, Jazur
what about immirgants? or forgien workers, or tourists?
St Leone, Jazur
*laughs in Avro Vulcan Electronic Countermeasures*
You can't shoot down a bomber with grapes if you didn't know it was coming. Or, where it is. Your radars are toast until the ECM subsides.
*Pov: Radar operator during an Avro Vulcan raid: where bomber*
St Leone, Jazur
They can come in. But as Waywards Edge is being hostile, anyone coming from there is not allowed in until the hostilities tone down
St Leone, Rupika, Jazur
My friend, I have not complied to war. This is an illegal invasion. Stop, now. We can discuss, but please refrain from war
St Leone, Jazur
honestly i would not pick a side, but if its down to which power i want to win in any war between you to if it happens im picking wayward, you may seem nice but i have biased emotions towards dictatorships
Floofybit, St Leone, Jazur
It's so nice to have you all here! Theres a lot of great information in the welcome telegram youve already received, but I have a few things that might help settling into the region easier. Refugia is part of a larger community named Calamity Refuge, or CalRef. We have a discord here: https://calref.network/chat/ and a forum here: https://calref.cc/index.php. Links for both are in the region description box at the top of this page. We host game nights and movie nights from the discord server from time to time. On the forum we have RPs and spam games (not really related to NS). If you want a place to just chill and talk to friendly people, those are great spaces for that.
If you haven't already done so, please consider joining the World Assembly and endorsing the delegate (that's me!). Click the link to learn more information on what that means and how to do it. If you join the World Assembly, you can endorse as many other nations in the region as you want, and get endorsed in return. You'll also become a Refugia Member State, which means you can vote in our elections and get a spot on our map of Refugia!
If you have any questions, please let us know. Everyone here is really friendly- I think weve only ever had one fatality from an introduction. If you prefer to read something pre-written over asking, however, check out this dispatch: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1449847
Finally, if you are an alt nation (which just means if the nation tagged in this welcome message is not your main nation on NationStates), it is required by regional law for you to report your main nation and intentions in Refugia to the Operations Councillor (that's also me!). Thanks so much.
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Rupika, Jazur
Okay, well it isn't war it's humanitarian aid. You get food, and technically water.
Edit: it isn't an invasion, it's freedom
Jazur
Floofybit, Jazur
you guys are taking this too far you will set fire to refugia with these decisions
Jazur
(OOC: You don't know that the WMDs have bromine in it, as i said it OOC)
I said that in response to a tangerine threat to bomb us with special tangerines which one could reasonably assume to be WMDs.
Jazur
Hold on, weren't you the one who just asked if I wanted to join SEDA for military and economic protection?
St Leone, Jazur
yes, because with that it would make sure to keep YOU in check as were a defensive alliance and we will not join in wars of aggresion
edit: and your war will hinder trade between SEDA members with dimm a land, and i will not stand isolating a SEDA member to there own devises thanks to your war
Jazur
It's not aggression, it's Operation fire grapes randomly at people until they accept grapes as decent
Completely different.
Jazur
you better keep it at that
Jazur
Fineeeeeeeeeeeee
Jazur
good
Jazur
You down to turn cloudberries into actual clouds?
Not like...dangerous gas or anything, just clouds.
Jazur
I only threatened that because I thought you were threatening me!
Sylh Alanor, St Leone, Jazur
can we all just take a breather for a second?
St Leone, Polushia, Jazur
Yeah but you escalated to WMDs!
St Leone, Jazur
Yeah. Actually that sounds smart. Lets get to work on it!
St Leone, Jazur
Utilising the strategically-located travel runes located along some of the more heated areas, teams of Alanori dressed in white with cherry tomato iconography set up small bases. Leaders of different regional countries and factions receive a video message from the Rajelan, freshly-reelected Tarasyldhe of Var Bellanaris.
"An'eth'ara, friends. Under the pacifistic neutrality of the great cherry tomato, Alanori peacekeepers have arrived in strategic locations around the archipelago. Elves have long memories, and we remember well the events of the last fruit war. Our farseers have studied possible futures and determined potential warzones, where we have established amnesty stations. For any citizen or government that might have need, we are willing to provide assistance with disarmament, disposal of hazardous material, and whatever aid missions might be required. In the event that war does break out between the grape and tangerine forces, we ask merely for mutual respect of our aid stations. Dar'eth shi'ral, na lethallan."
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Floofybit, Liphia, Portmanteau, St Leone, Rupika, Tiralta, Jazur, Waywards Edge
as of today, as a safety precaution of war, ill be moving from DEFCON 5 to DEFCON 4, a series of small forts will be built on the borders of wayward edge and the coast lines around the capital and major ports starting enhanced military spending for better equipment such as long-range missiles and more armored vehicles, we will intervene if we must to keep peace in the southwest along with the peacekeepers here, as for now, we will do anything in our power to help calm down the little crisis as war brings nothing but death, hope we all come out of this unharmed
Cheesy Tots, Floofybit, St Leone, Tiralta, Jazur
The official Tiraltan response is to order more popcorn and ask "what dried fruit would go best with this delicious snack?"
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Floofybit, St Leone, Jazur
corn?
Floofybit, St Leone, Tiralta, Jazur
A truly chaotic suggestion, Rupika is a nation unmatched. But it is an excellent suggestion indeed.
Chacapoya, Floofybit, St Leone, Rupika, Jazur
In response to Rupika's decision to move to Defcon 4, we are moving to Strategic Readiness 4, this includes the call up reservist units, the reactivation of the 10th Naval Fleet, and the construction of several forts along our shared border. The WENV Light Carrier Keystone and her escorts will be deployed offshore should a preemptive strike occur. Strategic Air Defense is currently operating under wartime conditions.
-Kirsti Alanor, Secretary of External Affairs
Floofybit, St Leone, Tiralta, Jazur
Screw dried fruit, the greatest combo is popcorn, crisps and cashews. (all salted ofc because obv)
And if you're feeling frisky, since all this would be very salty I would recommend either something sweet or something citrusy.
THIS IS THE GREATEST SNACK COMBO KNOW TO MANKIND. Ive never tried it tho but lets just ignore that for now ^_-
Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur
Something citrus? Like say... A tangerine 😏
St Leone, Tiralta, Jazur
Yea!
Tangerine if you want to go the citrusy route and grapes if you want to go the sweet route.
This is the perfect diet for a neutral nation like Tiralta :D
Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur
ngl i never tried a tangerine, but i like oranges, but only in small amounts becuse is so hard ot clean my hands after eating them
Floofybit, Tiralta
Certain traditional Esteberian customs involving sleep prevents us from taking much of a part in this fruit war, and the civil war brewing within our capital, Adrad(Over whether Tangerines or Grapes are better), prevents it even more. However, that does not mean we will not take part in it at all.
Expect a little piece of the best of what the Department of Military Affairs's new Branch of Fruit Warfare has to offer over the capitals of Floofybit and Waywards Edge this Sunday.
-Maia Dempsey, Head of the Department of Foreign Affairs
(OOC: By 'Best of our Fruit Warfare Branch has to offer' we mean in collaboration with our Branch of Tactical Warfare. Essentially, they made it so that our missiles filled with apple/asian pears are 'undetectable'. They forgot a few things)
Floofybit, Tiralta
As a lover of the cherry tomatoes, we support your efforts, and will protect you from attackers. We are rather peaceful, but if hostilities come upon us, we may have to retaliate
Sylh Alanor, Tiralta
I too feel I should support the tomato of neutrality. Tomatoes are great as well. They dont have a particularly strong flavor like some other fruits, but they do taste good and have much more versatility in that they are used in many foods and can be eaten as snacks. Other fruits are typically eaten as snacks or used in desserts, and I dont have dessert too often, so tomato is the fruit I likely consume the most.
Sylh Alanor, Floofybit, Tiralta
feels good that the heat has died down
Dimm-A-Land
Aephony relocates local weaponry in the capital, such as gun turrets and missile launchers to the heated area, the rocky shore is now filled with weaponry.
Aelemsact, the region in which the coast of Aephony is in danger, hired a new defendant, The "External Ae Defense Bureau" known for B̶e̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶c̶o̶r̶r̶u̶p̶t̶ ̶ ̶ ̶ Defending many threats. Which is prepared to shoot all source of war. They will unofficially close the canal until further agreements or ̶ ̶O̶r̶ ̶b̶r̶i̶b̶i̶n̶g̶. They announced.
"Aephony is against the fruit war and neutral to the belligerents that do not cause a threat.
We will close the borders if things escalate, Refugees will not be welcomed."
-Aestinista', newly elected leader of Aephony.
Cheesy Tots, Sylh Alanor, Floofybit, Tiralta, Dimm-A-Land
Dimm-A-Land has issued an official statement regarding the fruit war:
"The current crisis erupting around fruit have has us deeply concerned over the past few moments, we would like to declare neutrality at this moment. We will not be taking any military measures at this moment regarding the defense of our island"
"We cannot urge enough that out neutrality shall not be mistaken for inaction or complacency. Should the the war erupt into a large scale conflict, we will not hesitate to secure our national interests to maintain a free fruit market, via political or military means"
Floofybit, Aephony, Tiralta, Waywards Edge
Pro grape subverters have recently attempted to storm the house of one of our Pro Tangerine delegates. They have been detained as they protested in a hostile manner. The majority of Floofybit still stand for tangerine and mango, and will attempt to protect any nations in alliance with the tangerine, mango, or nations that declare peace with tangerines and do not wish to side against tangerines, from any pro-grape invaders.
Stricter regulations have been placed on tourism in Floofybit.
ALL HAIL THE TANGERINE!
Sylh Alanor, Rupika, Tiralta, Waywards Edge
during times of anti grape movements in the north, wineries in floofybit and other northern countries have been doubled with security and given more weaponry to protect farmers and the rupikan forgien workers in the area, as of now both wayward and floofybit peoples must have entry permits given out by the embassies for approval of entering rupika, foreign workers are allowed in but must need their workers permit with them that have ben stamped with the rupikan seal, the papers are now made out of cotton to keep out forged permits
Rupika strong
Floofybit, Tiralta, Waywards Edge
during times of anti grape movements in the north, wineries in floofybit and other northern countries have been doubled with security and given more weaponry to protect farmers and the rupikan forgien workers in the area, as of now both wayward and floofybit peoples must have entry permits given out by the embassies for approval of entering rupika, foreign workers are allowed in but must need their workers permit with them that have ben stamped with the rupikan seal, the papers are now made out of cotton to keep out forged permits
Rupika strong
Why when I just joined there is just nations fighting over grapes whats happening pls help
Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, St Leone, Tiralta
Tidelia has issued a statement regarding the currently escalating fruit war:
"I'm still confused. Grapes?"
Typica, Floofybit, Tiralta
Tell me about this mythical "shromp" creature which graces your flag and has been designated your national animal.
Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Tidelia
Assembled with Dot's Region Saver.
Written by Refuge Isle.