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Region: Refugia
this is true! but "black midi" specifically is a british post punk (?) band
Portmanteau, Szalyland, Tiralta, Jazur, Tidelia, Lycanjeskai
someone from an embassy is trying to get archai to invide you guys
just saying
Sylh Alanor, Szalyland, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Jazur, Lycanjeskai
Ban me
Silly pun word for everyone: Messterpiece.
Sylh Alanor, Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur
You're very sweet for letting us know, thank you. Sorry some rando is harassing you.
Typica, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Jazur, Lycanjeskai
When you screw something up, but you do it so spectacularly people are just legitimately impressed?
Araine, Jazur
I aspire to be like Della, adventurous and forward and positive all the time.
Sylh Alanor, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, Lycanjeskai
Hey guys. It's the World Assembly again, and you know what that means: asbestos! The next upcoming GA proposal is a repeal of "Asbestos Consumption, Disposal and Worker Protection"
Proposal: https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=the_wallenburgian_world_assembly_offices_1675205647
Target: https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_past_resolution/id=435/council=1
Forum thread: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=525461
If you're not familiar, asbestos is a type of material that was used a lot in construction back in the day. It's no longer used because it's been found to be quite carcinogenic and has detrimental health effects directly associated with exposure to it. The resolution this is trying to repeal, GAR#435, lays out a series of ground rules for how asbestos should be handed by member states: namely, that mining for asbestos and producing products which contain it must be banned, people who will be exposed to it must be protected via short durations and extensive safety protocols, and that they must not be exposed to more than a certain amount. It goes into some further detail about how to dismantle structures and dispose of asbestos materials, you can click through and read the details yourself if you're interested.
The repeal makes a few arguments against this:
- In clauses 1 and 2, the author argues that banning asbestos will negatively impact construction in nations which are used to using it.
- In clause 3, they point out that the target proposal doesn't detail standards for testing and reporting asbestos contents in structures. Because of this being left up to member state governments, they suggest that property owners, designers, etc. will avoid disclosing the presence of asbestos in their buildings, which generates more risk for workers.
- Clause 4 claims that the target requires "brick-by-brick" deconstruction of asbestos-containing buildings in order to avoid creating dust, and that the stringent worker safety requirements laid out will actually increase public exposure due to increased labour hours required.
- And clause 5 suggests that an exception should exist for buildings which contain asbestos as a reinforcing agent sealed within concrete, where it doesn't pose a public safety risk. It goes on to imagine a nation in which asbestos is a common construction material, all buildings are evacuated, everybody is homeless and jobless, cats and dogs sleeping together, absolute madness!
Are these good arguments? It's true that such a prohibition could have a major economic impact on a nation which relies on this material, but given the known health risks from exposure, this seems like a case in which the economic impact may be a secondary consideration against the well-being of individuals. In the author's proposed replacement legislation [https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=522807], there would be a mandatory inspection every five years for buildings which are likely to contain asbestos - which is good - but member states would be given a (5) five year grace period after exposure before having to condemn the structure. This seems overly lenient, and I'd like to see mandates tightened up on any future replacement drafts. This same proposed repeal also doesn't contain any mandate for property owners, etc. to report asbestos content: the very complaint used in clause 3 of this repeal.
As far as clause 4 goes, the "brick-by-brick" reading of GAR#435 is an exaggeration, if not an outright Honest Mistake rules violation. Again, the author's ideal replacement doesn't even address worker safety in demolishing condemned buildings, which tells us a few things about the ideological thrust behind this repeal. I understand that heavy restrictions do create red tape, but cutting them all away at the expense of construction workers' health doesn't sit right with me. I'm more sympathetic to the point in clause 5 about some applications of asbestos being okay, but the posturing about a potential economic crash is a bit much.
HOWEVER! There's one additional wrinkle. GAR#435 contains several instances of plagiarism from the real-world European Union law on asbestos exposure, linked here: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=LEGISSUM:em0032. Some of the bulleted items in the legislation are modified slightly, while others are word-for-world lifted from this extant EU law.
So where does this leave us? I'm not 100% clear on where to land here, really. I certainly don't think plagiarized writing should remain on the record, but I also think the protections it's providing are important and currently aren't poised to be re-enacted if this repeal goes through. The "economy first, public health second" approach of the repeal author puts me off significantly, especially given the apparent contradiction between the repeal arguments and the potential replacement. With all that in mind, I'm leaning against because I find the whole thing a bit undesirable, but I'd like to hear your thoughts. I'm hoping to gather some feedback and compile this into the first Information for Voters dispatch of the year, sometime after tonight's The Last of Us episode.
Thanks to Rask for helping out a ton with the initial research on this. Let me know what you all think.
Typica, Melenavenia, Araine, Liphia, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Jazur, New Leoneia, New Cinder
I think I'm inclined to vote against on this one. I'd probably vote for a different repeal with a replace in future. I think that the major health risks of asbestos are absolutely not worth the economic benefits.
Typica, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, St Leone, Falafelandia, Jazur
Both that and anything that can be considered "So bad it's good,"
Melenavenia, Tiralta, Jazur
Post by Bayfront International Territory suppressed by Refuge Isle.
They are trying to convince us that Sylh Alanor "is a suck up" now
Thanks but we don't need play-by-plays for people who have been bothering us.
Sylh Alanor, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Jazur, Basiltown
I created a countryball of my flag: file:///C:/Users/zebra/Downloads/Caidia.png
I don't think the forum supports dragging and dropping files
you're probably going to have to upload the image somewhere else and then send the link
Typica, Tiralta, Jazur
Man I've just been making war animations on CapCut :|
YOO A BLACK MIDI FAN!!!! One of my absolute favorite bands. Saw them with Black Country, New Road(Post isaac leaving) when they came to my city. They are somehow just as good live, everyone in that band is an absolute beast
Typica, Tiralta, Jazur
i'm really hoping black midi new road tour in canada soonish, i'd love to see how absolutely chaotic it gets live!
Sylh Alanor, Tiralta, Jazur, Tidelia
I have voted against the at-vote GA resolution due to the previous discussion on the subject :)
Typica, Melenavenia, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Ullrani
How does it feel to be the cheesiest Refugi, Avlorough?
Typica, St Leone, Tiralta, Jazur, Avlorough
tis' used to be me,
oh how I remember the glory days,
the days where leoneans could frolic in gouda,
oh how I remember the glory days,
tis' used to be me.
anyways how does it feel? xD
Typica, Melenavenia, Tiralta, Jazur, Rejakhta, Ullrani, Nea Ellada
I feel happy to be the fifth cheesy boi of refugia
Melenavenia, St Leone, Szalyland, Jazur, Lycanjeskai
O so a punk band, gooot it
huhm, maybe I'll search some music of theirs, anyway thanks
Jazur, Tidelia
You forgot somethin : "Now come on with the timpanis and take a shot of hennacy! This could just be the death of me, or maybe just a better me!"
Or maybe it wasn't forgotten and was said elsewhere, I'm not entirley sure.
Tiralta, Jazur, Boxiia
hey was asbestos? isn't like some drug or a construction thingy?
badger
Very. Sugar/Tzu was a religious experience live, and they did a really crazy version of Chondromalacia Patella too
Punk in VERY loose terms. Their first album was pretty post-punk, but the most recent two are more akin to like...prog-rock, I guess? Like a really operatic prog-rock? I don't know, they're kinda hard to pin down
Szalyland, Tiralta, Jazur
Hello, Refugia! Just announcing my presence. :)
Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Liphia, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Duneraven, Falafelandia, Jazur, Rejakhta, Tidelia, Boxiia, Theadstheadia
Boxiia
Tiralta, Jazur
Hail and well-met, beetle friend
Tiralta, Jazur
damn i just realize weird al is being CRUSHED
now iÂ’m imagining a polka funeral march lol
Tiralta, Falafelandia, Jazur, Lycanjeskai
I think it was completely forgotten. Oops.
Tiralta, Jazur
A Badger That Can Preform Necromancy
Tiralta, Jazur, Lycanjeskai
I made a new flag:>
Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, Lycanjeskai, Slaggstone Bruntt, Penocampt
It looks good!
Jazur, Koliland
Araine, Tiralta, Jazur
It feels great!
Melenavenia, Tiralta, Jazur, Koliland
Since I'm a curious idiot, I'd like to know who is #1 in the Sector of Agriculture in our Region?
Tiralta
I appreciate the participation but, to the best of my knowledge, you are not a Member State with a WA exemption from the Regional Council.
Sylh Alanor, Araine, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Jazur, Koliland
As of 3/13/23, it is Tovenia.
Tiralta, Jazur, Koliland
ok so after forgetting about the poll I had about y government, with a 60%+ landslide, I am now, once again, a communist country, next election will be in 30 days
Sylh Alanor, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Jazur
WELCOME BACK COMRADE
Portmanteau, Rupika, Tiralta, Jazur
my flag actually fits with it, I guess I gotta change flags every time a party winds
Tiralta, Jazur
I just got the most fitting issue I’ve ever gotten: #133, “When Beavers Attack”.
Apparently people have been keeping members of the beaver army as pets for some reason. This led to sentences like:
“After several reports of pet beavers violently attacking, injuring, and even killing citizens, there has been growing pressure from public safety activists for the government to take action”
And ‘“Why punish the poor things?” asks animal-lover Sigourney Navarrete, covered in scars from previous encounters with beavers”
My citizens are making very poor pet decisions.
Araine, Portmanteau, St Leone, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Lycanjeskai
Yeah just got the same issue. My people were getting attacked by their vicious pet seahorses. Decided to open training centres that turn seahorses into functioning members of society.
Portmanteau, Tiralta, Lycanjeskai
Now IÂ’m imagining a seahorse with a top hat and monocle
Portmanteau, Tiralta, Floodlantis
My seahorses are now sophisticated gentlefolk.
Portmanteau, Tiralta, Lycanjeskai
Ya know what, I have decided that it is totally fine that 1 out of every 4 of my citizens will die in the wilderness. (No one else has this problem?) Maybe I should start teaching orienteering.
Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Lycanjeskai, Floodlantis
46.5% of deaths in my nation are caused by getting lost in the wilderness, I think itÂ’s just a side effect of having a good environment. It seems to be a common problem in the region to the point where myself and at least a couple other people have decided that theyÂ’re not actually dying, theyÂ’re just choosing to go live in the woods because they like it so much, and theyÂ’re declared dead because from the governmentÂ’s perspective theyÂ’ve vanished and as such donÂ’t need to utilize social services and are no longer available to pay taxes.
So theyÂ’re actually just happily living out their lives with the super secret wilderness people.
Araine, Liphia, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Lycanjeskai
For me itÂ’s 41
IÂ’ve just chosen to use it as the stat of who in the population becomes Arcwolf scientists (in my nationÂ’s lore, Arcwolf fur is used in basically all technology so they need scientists, employed by state, to study new varieties) because they need to be in wilderness to study.
Tiralta
happy pi day!
Melenavenia, Araine, Liphia, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Lycanjeskai, Koliland, Spylinard
As the next round of BOAT looms around the corner--I think I hear the roar of an engine too--I pass on a message from the Aggressive F-250 Driver. https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1850534
Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Portmanteau, Rupika, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Ullrani, Sempera, Basiltown, Spylinard
oh lol i just realised, happy pi day!
Melenavenia, Araine, Liphia, Portmanteau, Aephony, Rupika, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Lycanjeskai, Sempera, Koliland
You've got my vote. I've read too many Draco fanfics.
Melenavenia, Araine, Rupika, Tiralta, Lycanjeskai, Sempera, Basiltown
Imagine if those lost in the wilderness made their own wilderness civilization and forgot about the original country, eventually forming their own silly sci-fi scenario. That should be a book in your nation.
Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, The Pacific Northwest, Lycanjeskai
First 1000 digits:
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Narwhal, St Leone, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Lovoreus Magnus
Huh yea i searched it a bit, listen to 2 songs video
One song was actually more like a jazz, and the other one i have no idea lol
it was "21st century schizoid man" and "Welcome to hell" which has weird animation
Portmanteau, Tiralta, Tidelia, Black Midi Enjoyers
Rad.
Tiralta
wait, black midi did a 21st Century Schizoid Man cover??? i really need to listen do this
(for reference, the original was by King Crimson in 1969)
Portmanteau, Tiralta, Tidelia
I got a question, what great ape do oyu think is the greatest? you cant say humans there to OP mines the gorilla
Delta Vega Iv, Portmanteau, St Leone, Tiralta, Koliland
orangutans because . . . ehhh . . . there are a few pictures and videos that explain it well q-q
Portmanteau
i believe bonobos are the pnes with complex, feminist, community-based political factions? or is it chimps? well that one is my favourite.
Portmanteau
yeah there like chimps, but smaller, darker, alot more into the romance life, and a matriarchy society
Delta Vega Iv, Portmanteau
I'm having a rough week, so forgive me for falling a bit behind on World Assembly affairs. I've taken the regional consensus on the asbestos thing and compiled it into an IFV dispatch, linked below. I know the vote is already pretty well decided, but I wanted to have a newer dispatch out there. Check it out below and give it an upvote.
I'd also like to encourage everyone to vote for the current commendation of Nakarisaune. Nakari is a treasured member of our community, known widely for her contributions to regions like The South Pacific and The Gray Wardens, but more significantly, she's the author and artist of the comics celebrating our own necromantic badger in the Battle of All Things II. I regret not getting something out there sooner for this one, but hopefully you can all show some support.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1850699
Delta Vega Iv, Narwhal, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Araine, Liphia, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Morrigan, Lycanjeskai, Floodlantis
ok sounds cool that she did all this stuff but why should we vote for the act to be repealed? like what benefits us from repealing the act?
oh crap this isn't about asbestos
Melenavenia, Tiralta, Lycanjeskai
The recommendation is to vote against the repeal, unless you are looking for arguments in favor of it?
Delta Vega Iv, Tiralta
I was reading the one about condemning some nation thinkings its about the asbestos, so sorry for mis communication <:D
Delta Vega Iv, Melenavenia, Tiralta
I can change the title or formatting to make that clearer. In the past I left the recommendation out of the title, but maybe that's confusing
Delta Vega Iv, Tiralta
Today in science class some classmates of mine had an extremely silly conversation where one tried to trick another into putting stuff in their nose. It was amazing. The first even got the second to stare at the clock for a minute in order to be able to control time. Also, my motto has been applied some posts above.
This just reminded me of a time way back when I was in middle school science. This one girl decided it would be funny to pretend salt was cocaine and snort some.
It wasnÂ’t pretty.
DonÂ’t snort things kids.
Araine, Tiralta, Falafelandia
The Battle of All Things II: Match Update:
It's a brand new round, one where we now know all the candidates of the quarter-finals. Survivors now will be guaranteed to pick up a S1 Sionis Prioratus OR S1 Mindless Contempt in addition to the rewards earned up to this point. As hype and rewards continue to build, this match did not disappoint.
Badger returned with an encore performance to its last match's webcomic. The Badger Part II, with the Badger's very own interpretation of Gangster Paradise. This webcomic featured its familiar unlockable panels. Those panels, however, became semi-rapid-fire as the Badger raced to a record-breaking 39 to 8 votes, crushing Weird Al into dust without mercy.
Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats receives a Season 1 Testlandia. For triumphing in the Round of 16, Erie receives the original legend for an original legend, and we are happy to have had them with us.
The next round begins immediately with Fan-Fiction vs. Aggressive F-250 Driver:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1832205
Dot betting is now closed for round J and open for round K.
Narwhal, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats, Tiralta, Falafelandia
As the last round has come to pass, and the speeding F-250 closes in rapidly on your location. You have a choice: live or die.
For your own sake, the Aggressive F-250 Driver suggests you vote for him, or he might not just stop at you.
Another reminder of the note that he has for you: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1850534
Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Tiralta, A Million Dreams, Falafelandia, Jazur
Is there a train involved in this
Melenavenia, Tiralta, Jazur
Refuge Isle Aggressive F-250 driver
Melenavenia, Araine, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Jazur
The referendum ended earlier today, and with a vote of 18 to 1 with 1 abstention, the voters have decided to close the embassy.
Melenavenia, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Portmanteau, Tiralta, A Million Dreams, Falafelandia, Jazur
Refugee Isle f-250 driver
A Million Dreams
You're not pinging the person you're trying to ping :P
Cheesy Tots, Araine, Tiralta, A Million Dreams, Falafelandia
Banning cars seems to be in order
Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Tiralta, A Million Dreams, Jazur, Ullrani
Okay but that's still not my nation name.
Chacapoya, Tiralta, A Million Dreams, Falafelandia, Jazur
The Train Kid was felled in the previous round.
Araine, Tiralta, A Million Dreams, Lycanjeskai
Yes, to my dismay, he was crushed by the incredibly broad concept of fan fiction that all beings can be controlled by.
Vote for fanfic btw!
Cheesy Tots, Tiralta, A Million Dreams
Howdy
Tiralta, A Million Dreams
sorry refuge isle/luca hope this is spelled properly now, and...you know my vote
Tiralta, A Million Dreams
*swims around the old map, impatiently waiting for the new map to swim*
Araine, Liphia, Portmanteau, St Leone, Tiralta, A Million Dreams, Falafelandia, Jazur, Lycanjeskai, Koliland
wow.
Deep.
Just like the oceans.
on the . . . maps . . .
yeeea
xD
Narwhal, Araine, Tiralta, A Million Dreams, Falafelandia, Jazur, Lycanjeskai, Koliland
Imagine if you were a billionaire
"No"
Imagine if you were a billionaire in 1325
"No"
Imagine if you were a frog
"OOOOH"
IM GONNA JUMP IN A PUDDLE. IM GONNA COVER MYSELF IM WATER. IM GONNA LICK MY OWN EYE. NOTHING TASTES BETTER THAN THE OUTSIDE OF MY EYEBALL.
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Narwhal, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, St Leone, Tiralta, A Million Dreams, Falafelandia, New Ras, Lycanjeskai, Ethierys
frogs>billionaires
Araine, St Leone, Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats, Tiralta, A Million Dreams
i cast my vote for fan-fiction
Chacapoya, Tiralta
Why are you staying in Refugia?
✗ Good endotarting program
✗ Everyone is nice
✗ Free cards
✔ Daily wacky story
Cheesy Tots, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, St Leone, Tiralta, A Million Dreams, Falafelandia, New Ras, Lycanjeskai
aggressive F-250 driver must win, we cant let the shippers win
Cheesy Tots, Melenavenia, Tiralta, A Million Dreams, Falafelandia
I know
Melenavenia, Tiralta, A Million Dreams
We seem to be at a bit of a draw, so if fanfiction wins I will write and publicly post a NationStates fic of the region's choice.
Some of you in the Discord have already read my questionable thrilling previous foray into NationStates romance fanfiction.
(Fanfiction isn't even my character I just bet on it and I wanna win lol)
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Narwhal, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, St Leone, Jazur, New Ras, Morrigan, Lycanjeskai, Almander
If the Aggressive F-250 Driver wins I'll drop a mini-movie about the backstory of the Driver in the lead-up to the battle versus the Salt Flats or the Thicc Horse.
The Star Enpire, Cheesy Tots, Narwhal, Araine, Liphia, St Leone, Tiralta, A Million Dreams, Falafelandia, Morrigan, Koliland
Little did you know...
I ship LawLight
I have already won AND lost
Fanfiction is just 3 parallel universes ahead of you
Tiralta, Jazur
Refuge Isle f-250 driver pls!
Melenavenia, Tiralta, Falafelandia
A most eco-unfriendly vote for the Driver of a Runaway f-250!
Melenavenia, Araine, Tiralta, Falafelandia
Melenavenia, Tiralta
The field trip permission form was in itÂ’s chibi form today
Tiralta, Jazur, Koliland
Fanfiction gives me nothing but joy. The thought of having to share road space with an aggressive F-250 driver and his unnecessarily oversized vehicles does not give me joy.
Narwhal, Sylh Alanor, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, Lycanjeskai
Do you guys think they make jalapeño flavoured paint chips
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, St Leone, Tiralta, Falafelandia, Jazur
I don't, no... sadly. :(
Tiralta
Assembled with Dot's Region Saver.
Written by Refuge Isle.