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Region: Refugia
Post self-deleted by Archipelago Nine.
uh my post got duplicated im so confused
Delta Vega Iv, Cheesy Tots, Sylh Alanor, Floofybit, Jazur, Parvesha
You're good lol, I'll hold onto it, we don't do daily updates or anything so I'm totally fine holding onto map applications. I got a few this week and I'm going to be looking at them probably all at once sometime in the next few days because I'm terrible with time management. But I did receive them!
Delta Vega Iv, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, Winlandy, Parvesha, Archipelago Nine
I'm in abundantly positive spirits because I'm gonna go to the bray air show in 3 days and the entire irish air force of four aircraft is gonna be flying there
Delta Vega Iv, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, Parvesha, Ameth
Hell yeah, love Cessnas
Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Portmanteau, Porthosia, Jazur, Parvesha
Hey. Is something important happening? I have been a bit inactive and would like to come back
Delta Vega Iv, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Portmanteau, Porthosia, Jazur
That gave me a laugh. I had to look up to see whether you were exaggerating, and it wasn't by all that much.
Air shows are a great time. I especially enjoy when they bring out the historic planes. But I'll watch just about anything zoom around the skies!
Well, that depends on your definition of "important" I suppose. I've got our annual Armadillo Derby coming up. Spirits are high, even though the event is being held under something of a shadow after it was discovered that some of the armadillos were engaged in betting on events they were actively participating in. Not only is it an unfair advantage in the gambling arena, but it's simply not cricket. Regardless, the odds on favorite remains plucky ole Agua Fresca, who you may recall was the runner-up during last year's derby, barely losing out to Montezuma's Revenge.
So...there's that.
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Aephony, Tiralta, Polushia, Istastioner, Porthosia, Jazur, Parvesha
(I'm so sorry I forgot to do this a few days ago, my head has been fried this week!)
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While the contestants of the Sewing Bee had put forward some beautiful designs for Annika Draper's last-minute change to the theme, the organisers weren't sure what to do. Did they just go ahead and judge these new pieces and send someone home? Did they say everyone gets through, and add in an extra week for the planned next rounds? Did they even have the budget for that? They needed to make a decision, and quickly, before the contestants wanted to go home! After some deliberation, and with a decision made, they sent out the host...
Um, hello. Hi... Everyone. My name is, um, Derek Draper and I'm your hew nost - I mean, new host. Sorry, I'm not very good at this, um... I'm really sorry about what my sis- about what Annika did to you all for the last challenge. We've decided to let you all go through to the final round as a result, however we will still be picking one winner from this final challenge.
The theme for this last round is "Transforming the Future". As you all know, Refugia is a region that prides itself on its eco-friendly values, and this competition is no different. As we all know, we want to, uh, reduce, reuse and recycle, so for this final, um, challenge, we will give you a choice of items of clothing taken straight from Annika's wardrobe and we'd like you to pick two and combine them to make a new piece or outfit. The more surprising the transformation, the better. We only have one of each item, so it will be first come, first served, sorry. Annika really likes fun, bold clothes that stand out as much as she does, so this should be a tough challenge for you all.
Giuliano, Señor Aethametamine, Fanny and Domino, here are your options. We're sure you will make Parvesha, Aephony and Portmanteau proud.
[spoiler=blazer with shoulder pads]
https://a.1stdibscdn.com/jean-louis-scherrer-vintage-fuchsia-pink-shoulder-pads-floral-silk-blazer-1980s-for-sale/v_4683/1638261740120/insta_master.jpg[/spoiler]
[spoiler=tights]
https://www.modshoes.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/modshoes-ladies-vintage-retro-mod-skin-ska-tights20201119_192048.jpg[/spoiler]
[spoiler=fringe trousers]
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRuGUc7HFlwnqGBuGsrhLjybhXAzLhtRlicjSiIja_MRgW8isC-yIcNxi4T3hLkFlZJRMunF0k&usqp=CAc[/spoiler]
[spoiler=lace top]
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRjbEGRGkSQesBdnDCQkp76xCkCpPOhNvZd_gpptKT0DxBHDizVfuKGyB7JbX5Xdeugh7sRH6I&usqp=CAc[/spoiler]
[spoiler=skirt 1] https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0363/5009/products/green-leopard-print-tulle-skirt_2268x.jpg?v=1645112643[/spoiler]
[spoiler=blouse]
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTQX3vkK-pk-sKPQrCPORxAXSKV81mqffyLpbpu8yJgF3wwZQjsTHyYZt0YzO6CCHhKYwDu8Z2y&usqp=CAc[/spoiler]
[spoiler=skirt 2] https://img.ltwebstatic.com/images3_pi/2022/04/26/165093886419f33f1581abe03cb0a3d79a21e24de8_thumbnail_750x.webp[/spoiler]
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Nekhuser-Ra, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Polushia, Porthosia, Bobesville-Sholstine, Parvesha, Alison Hammond
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After days of hard work, he came out with his recycled clothes. The silk blazer kept with the floral theme of its predecessor--it was white with pink and purple flowers adorning the blazer. It was matched with a simple white shirt. The fringed trousers were kept pretty much the same--slightly shortened and turned white. Giu looked at his final product and sighed. He realized he had had a lot of fun in the bee. He held his finished product in his arms for a few minutes, before wrapping it up and submitting it.
[spoiler=Blazer]https://i.postimg.cc/KcKCbDw6/Screenshot-62.png[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Pants]https://i.postimg.cc/qMsbBbL5/image.png[/spoiler]
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta
Surprise attack - it's another World Assembly GA proposal, this time called: "Repeal: 'Freedom Of The Press'"!
Proposal: https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=hulldom_1657815134
Repeal Thread: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=520076
Target Thread: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=106517&start=25
Replacement Thread: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=520514
ETA to vote: ~7-8 hours
[spoiler=Help its a long discussion post]But first, a summary of the target resolution that faces repeal! GA#155 is a resolution which aims to protect access to news services. Its first focus to achieve this is - asserting that all national news must be allowed to utilize available technology in the nation to broadcast both news. International news orgs can operate within a nation but only with express permission by said nation, albeit the target does encourage nations to allow such exchanges to happen. The target then moves on to protecting access, prohibiting nations from blocking access to international and domestic news - though an exception exists for domestic news if it violates the nation's security.
The repeal takes a few issues against the target, with its arguments summarized here:
[list][*]The fact the target allows nations to block international news organizations from operating within national borders inherently reduces the freedom of the press.
[*]Due to the target's wording in Clause 4, nations are allowed to punish citizens from accessing news organizations that operate solely within or outside of a nation's borders - this is because the target only protects access to organizations that operate both in a foreign and domestic manner.
[*]There is no entity who can judge what is a security threat, allowing nations to abuse the target by calling anything a security threat and censoring it.
[*]The target's wording allows for nations to censor any news they find obscene and/or objectionable.[/list]
Now, after my analysis I can conclude I'm not sure how I feel about the repeal itself, but circumstances push me to be against it.
I think the repeal's first argument makes sense - indeed by asserting that nations can grant or remove permission from international news to operate in them, that does reduce freedom of the press. I do think there need to be some restrictions of course (to allow the prevention of fradulent journalist/news orgs from entering a nation), but I believe if a news source is credible then it should be allowed to report within a nation.
The repeal's second argument also mostly makes sense - the repeal is technically right in a grammatical sense as far as I can see, but I think one could also interpret the relevant Section as protecting access to all news resources (and indeed, the latter is very clearly the intention of the target based on the target's thread). So while I lean to supporting this argument, I'm wondering if there is a case against it.
The repeal's third argument is something I do not agree with entirely. It is true there is no entity that can determine what it means, but I'd argue the World Assembly Judiciary Committee as established by GA#466 can easily address disputes as to whether a nation's "security concern" is genuine or not - thereby preventing any abuse as well as it can be prevented. So the fact the target states this is not really a concern for me.
The repeal's fourth argument, though, is another thing I'm unsure on. To clarify, this is what the target says:
The repeal argues:
On one hand, I get where the repeal is coming from, but I feel the bigger issue with the target's Clause 5 is it's inherent contradiction - stating news can only be censored for "security" reasons but then stating reporters can report but only in accordance with national laws. So I think I agree with the repeal on this, but it may have been worth mentioning this contradiction.
So that's one argument I pretty much disagree with, one argument I'm unsure about, and two that make sense to me. But there's one other thing to note as well - the replacement of the target being authored by the individual who is authoring the repeal. The replacement as-is is so minimal it is concerning, as it leaves the resolution with many potential issues as noted here, here, and here. The replacement is nowhere near as comprehensive as the target, and considering just how important protecting free press is, I'd rather wait for the replacement to be more fully fleshed out and see if it comes to par with the target before considering a repeal.[/spoiler]
Therefore, I recommend voting AGAINST "Repeal: 'Freedom Of The Press'", although I'd still like to hear y'alls thoughts as I'm certain my stance would be unsure if it were not for the replacement needing more work. Do y'all agree with me? Disagree? Let me know :>
Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Parvesha
I'm against "Repeal: 'Freedom Of The Press'" for obvious reasons
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Floofybit, Jazur, Parvesha
Could you elaborate on the obvious reasons, if you're fine with it? Maybe you'll have a great reason to be against that isn't so obvious!
Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur, Parvesha
I feel that "Repeal: 'Freedom Of The Press'" is well intentioned, but if Freedom Of The Press is repealed there are a lot of authoritarians' countries that could take advantage for this resolution. (But this is just my opinion on the matter)
Cheesy Tots, Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur, Parvesha
I feel like the target resolution has its issues that need addressed, but I dont like the replacement either, its a bit too simple. I would vote to repeal if there were a better replacement being drafted, or if the current draft were more comprehensive.
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Istastioner, Parvesha
That makes sense! I also agree with you somewhat (it's why I took my final stance on the repeal, in a way)
Thank you for sharing <3
Honestly, pretty much my thoughts yeah!Typica, Floofybit, Tiralta, Parvesha
pls not again I'm still recovering from the last one
Anyway I'm leaning against mainly because the replacement is terrible and quite frankly does nothing. If the replacement was good I would support the repeal--the target resolution isn't great and has a bunch of flaws--but repealing a not-so-good resolution with an even worse one just doesn't make sense imo.
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Istastioner
My surprise attacks are devastating
Fair enough reason! ^-^
Chacapoya, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Parvesha
It's so nice to have you all here! Theres a lot of great information in the welcome telegram youve already received, but I have a few things that might help settling into the region easier. Refugia is part of a larger community named Calamity Refuge, or CalRef. We have a discord here: https://calref.network/chat/ and a forum here: https://calref.cc/index.php. Links for both are in the region description box at the top of this page. We host game nights and movie nights from the discord server from time to time. On the forum we have RPs and spam games (not really related to NS). If you want a place to just chill and talk to friendly people, those are great spaces for that.
If you haven't already done so, please consider joining the World Assembly and endorsing the delegate (that's me!). Click the link to learn more information on what that means and how to do it. If you join the World Assembly, you can endorse as many other nations in the region as you want, and get endorsed in return. You'll also become a Refugia Member State, which means you can vote in our elections and get a spot on our map of Refugia!
If you have any questions, please let us know. Everyone here is really friendly- I think weve only ever had one fatality from an introduction. If you prefer to read something pre-written over asking, however, check out this dispatch: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1449847
Finally, if you are an alt nation (which just means if the nation tagged in this welcome message is not your main nation on NationStates), it is required by regional law for you to report your main nation and intentions in Refugia to the Operations Councillor (that's also me!). Thanks so much.
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, Parvesha, Archipelago Nine, Gang3Tar, Temlabars
guys help I did an issue and now im a father knows best state help
Delta Vega Iv, Cheesy Tots, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, Winlandy, Parvesha
It's okay, just work on whichever stat it affected (civil rights, political freedoms, or economic freedom) and you should be right as rain.
Cheesy Tots, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Istastioner, Jazur, Winlandy, Parvesha, Archipelago Nine
Change your pretitle to 'Queendom' or 'Matriarchy' - then you can be a Mother Knows Best State 😎😎😎
Delta Vega Iv, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Portmanteau, Yondoria, Tiralta, Istastioner, Hoqeallistan, Jazur, Winlandy, Parvesha, Gang3Tar
yeah so aparently the only thing holding me from descending directly into a dictatorship is my civil rights score lol
but i would fall onto the left scale, probably
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Floofybit, Tiralta, Istastioner, Jazur, Winlandy, Parvesha
Tiralta I love your new flag!!<3
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, Winlandy
Tiralta I like your new flag
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, Winlandy, Parvesha
I think I messed up but every options would have decreased my civil rights!
Sylh Alanor, Araine, Portmanteau, Aephony, Tiralta, Jazur, Winlandy, Parvesha, Gang3Tar
I was efficient in cheese, you have no idea how much cheese I produced, a lot, a lot of cheese, now that's just a dream, I used to have, 3! 3 number ones. Aephony used to rule the cheeses, THE CHEESES! DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW IT FEELS LIKE TO LOSE YOUR CHEESE BADGE? The cheeses...
I have mental breakdowns here and there about the cheese, it's unbearable...
Delta Vega Iv, Cheesy Tots, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Portmanteau, Everetunga-Hari, Tiralta, Jazur, Winlandy, Parvesha
Thank you! :D <3
Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Portmanteau, Jazur, Parvesha
I like ur flag too :3
Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, Parvesha, Gang3Tar
Sos every thing I did just made my economy worse,and the situation of employment was the same😭I'm gonna ruin the country!
Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur
Hey I'm back, i took some time off to solve particular things but I'm back, and with great news: I'm making a Wh40k inspired mod for Minecraft, inspired on MrCrayfish gun mod code, and a Starsector mod showcasing a war between humanity and the mysterious Vega. Any questions feel free to DM me
Portmanteau
When you are a dictatorship in hot water, remember: Start a war
Jazur
nah just follow comrade stalins words, "stupid people will follow you anywhere as long as you throw them a worthless little treat once in a while"
Jazur
thank u so much I'll try😇
Portmanteau, Jazur
This site is helpful before making decisions! http://www.mwq.dds.nl/ns/results/
Also sometimes early on your economy tanks for a few weeks before it picks up, so it'll be okay!
Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Portmanteau, Hoqeallistan, Jazur, Parvesha, Gang3Tar
🤯god heavens I appreciate it so much🙏
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, Parvesha
Just wanted to bring to your attention the flag of Fluffy Loafer. Which really made me smile. And I must say, this region sure does have a lot of fluff and floof :)
Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Aephony, Tiralta, Jazur, Parvesha, Fluffy Loafer
H e l l o
If you could move stuff with your mind, what would you do?
Personally, I'd use it to open doors for people in shops, but randomly not open them for someone so they think its automatic and run into it anyway.
Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Dacay, Tiralta, Hoqeallistan, Jazur, Parvesha
I'd like to move shopping carts with my mind; it always pains me to see them strewn all over parking lots. It'd make things a lot easier for cart collectors and I could ram carts into cars if I was feeling mischievous. :3
Also it would be fun to move paintings in those empty parts of art museums where it's super quiet and there's only a few people; it would be entertaining to see how scared they get.
Lethodus, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Jazur
What are the restrictions? Weight, number of items, distance? Cause it ranges from "putting scrap paper in the bin without getting up" to "levitating myself and my belongings for a carbon-free travel" for me!
Araine, Floofybit, Jazur, Parvesha
[spoiler=Sewing Bee RP]
Fanny and Domino walk back from the contest announcement with their chosen articles, oblivious to the fact they were also holding hands along the way, with their heads lost in the clouds of thought surrounding the task ahead. They both feel prepared for this final challenge, and head to their workshop to retrieve their secret weapon theyve kept hidden in a supply trunk.
When Fanny pops open the lid, however, a swarm of large moths fly out, eliciting gasps from both Domino and herself. Peering inside, they are confronted with the glaring truth that all of their fabrics were eaten. Moth-eaten, in fact. Dozens of cocoon husks lay strewn across the bottom of the trunk.
Their secret weapon of native silk worms, sourced from the darkest depths of the Manteau Rainforest back home and brought along to provide the finest and freshest of silks, would appear to have not been silk worms at all, but in fact caterpillars of the frightful clothes moth! The most dastardly villain of the garment industry, and dreaded by every sane garmentarian across the land! The clothes moths of Portmanteau (scientific name: Tineola valde famelicus) are notorious for their size and appetite, and a swarm of moths are known to be able to skeletonize a petticoat in under a minute.
Fanny and Domino can only watch as the swarm moves on to the articles they had taken back with them from Annika's wardrobe, then to the spare rolls of cloth they had about the shop, and finally to the very clothes on their backs, before finishing their meal and flying off into the night.
Somewhat dazed from this turn of events, Domino and Fanny look to one another, naked as the day they came, the absurdity of it all catching up with them, at last, and the two burst into laughter. With no actual product remaining, they were prepared to showcase their Emperors new clothes before the judges of the contest.
Final product:
https://i.imgur.com/9FwFZII.jpg[/spoiler]
Chacapoya, Typica, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Jazur, Winlandy, Parvesha
No restrictions, except you cannot move ants with your mind.
That'd be too powerful.
Chacapoya, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur, Parvesha
what about 'evitating termites?
Lethodus, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Winlandy
I'm *definitely* not trying to raise the level of nudity in my country because, ya know, why not?😆
Typica, Jazur
The world's most eco-friendly transport system it is :D
Chacapoya, Lethodus, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Dacay, Jazur, Winlandy, Parvesha
I'm just imagining a spider using sticks and webbing to create a crane to help the ants xD
Typica, Sylh Alanor, Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur
Self. Moving. Shopping. Carts.
Chacapoya, Lethodus, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur, Winlandy, Parvesha
absolute chaos
if it were me, probably just move the tv remote or phone to my hand 'cuz I hate getting up
Chacapoya, Lethodus, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur, Winlandy, Parvesha
Termites are fine.
Just not ants.
Not after last time.
Cheesy Tots, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur, Parvesha
So, was 'ast time bad, or what?
Cheesy Tots, Araine, Floofybit, Parvesha
Hey all, tips for finals for school? I have my final exam for health class on Tuesday.
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Winlandy, Parvesha
- review the information you don't know well but believe will be on the exam (don't cram though, and take many breaks ofc - just go through as much info as you're comfortable at a pace you're fine with)
- eat some good foods
- if you usually go to bed really late, try sleeping a little earlier so you get some rest
- try not to stress too much and relax - what happens happens
- make sure you have everything you need ready the night before so you don't have to worry as much about getting ready in the morning
at least, this is what I do whenever I got a test
Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Letargia, Aephony, Tiralta, Istastioner, Planet Risa, Jazur, Parvesha, Mel7746
Google and caffeine will be your best friends until your finals are over
xD
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Floofybit, Istastioner, Planet Risa, Jazur, Parvesha, Mel7746
Is eating toaster waffles frozen a sin?
Chacapoya, Floofybit, Tiralta, Hoqeallistan, Jazur, Parvesha
Only if they're garnished with broken teeth
Delta Vega Iv, Cheesy Tots, Floofybit, Tiralta, Istastioner, Jazur, Parvesha
Its actually the correct choice.
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Istastioner, Jazur, Parvesha
bread.
Cheesy Tots, Floofybit, Tiralta, Istastioner, Huliunov, Parvesha
morning refugia how do you be
Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Istastioner, Huliunov, Parvesha
Well, you kinda just flap your wings around and say "bzzz" for 18 hours straight and when you see a pretty flower you let nature do its thing and produce some delicious honey. Finally, if anyone tried to take that precious honey, you sting em 🐝
Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Istastioner, Huliunov, Winlandy, Parvesha
I've returned from the void! \o/
What do you mean "you've been in the discord this whole time Jules" I don't know what you're talking about
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Istastioner, Winlandy, Parvesha
Any opinions on the "Historical Founderless Region Preservation Act"
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Winlandy, Parvesha
Voting against. The declaration advocates for liberations on historic regions, which would take away their sovereignty and lead to lots more raids. >_<
Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, New Pi-Ramesses, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Istastioner, Winlandy
Thank you for telling me this
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Winlandy, Parvesha
We're always happy to see you where ever you are
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Cadenzana, Tiralta, Winlandy, Parvesha
whats the disco my firewall isn't letting me through to the link to the disco
Cheesy Tots, Floofybit, Tiralta, Winlandy
Our bot constantly rotates the link, but presently it is https://discord.com/invite/4JNkyEVB
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Winlandy, Parvesha
cool im in
Cheesy Tots, Floofybit, Tiralta, Winlandy
So I'm quite fashionably late on this due to my powers of procasination, but seeing as Istationer already started the discussion I'll skip the fancy formatting for Historical Founderless Region Preservation Act (HFRP) and keep this short uwu
Essentially HFRP is advocating for measures to complete the mission it is named with. It gives a list of all Founderless user-created regions then lists suggested steps to protect them, including signing treaties, establishing domestic anti-raid law, and pre-emptively liberating said founderless regions. It also suggests two steps against attacks of these regions: diplomatically isolating the attackers and operating against them militarily.
So basically, I agree with the points raised by Parvesha above and Refuge Isle in their proposed repeal. Regions have the right to decide if they want a liberation or not, it should not be up to the Security Council to make that fundamental decision. It doesn't really help that the resolution's author knows better, being at one point a highly notable defender, yet they refused to pull this down from queue when alerted to this issue in their draft. Beyond that, the resolution has other, more minor, issues related to ambiguous writing in some areas (particularly the part on treaties and laws), probably not helped by the fact that this was only drafted for a week or two before submission.
So for all these reasons, I'll recommend voting AGAINST "Historical Founderless Region Preservation Act" - though as always, feel free to share your thoughts if you haven't already! (And many thankies to Istationer for getting the ball rolling on this :D)
Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Honeydewistania, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Cadenzana, Liphia, Tiralta, Istastioner, Hoqeallistan, The Pacific Northwest, Jazur, Winlandy, Parvesha, Mel7746
Any opinions on the "Removal Of Space Debris"?
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Jazur, Parvesha
no longer a father knows best state guys
back to inoffensive democracy
Delta Vega Iv, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Istastioner, Jazur, Winlandy, Parvesha
I have voted in favour of it because of the possible threat it could impose upon our nations as a whole, I would rather be prepared than suffer the consequence of being too late.
Typica, Floofybit, Istastioner, Jazur, Winlandy
We could build a giant railgun array in the middle of Refugia, allowing it to snipe any asteroid that poses a threat to Refugia. We could also use it to shoot ICBMs coming towards us. (Ace combat Stonehenge array, anybody?)
Istastioner, Jazur, Winlandy
And besides, its a really good AA gun. So it could be useful to build this preemptively and ya know... protectively.
Jazur
That will cost money and destroy environment with the highest possibility that we will end up destroying the astroid anyways so we might as well do it now without the risk of death
Istastioner, Jazur
I'm against.
The proposal mandates that member nations, regardless of whether they have any interest in space or are even affected by space debris, which have available technology must use it to destroy it. WA funds are also expended for this purpose if a nation is too broke. What's really the killer for me is that this junk can be carelessly dumped by any non member state, and WA will have to clean up. I don't like that at all.
A better approach can be used, but as the one here is flawed, I voted against.
Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Istastioner, Parvesha
Is there a large suitable desert in Refugia? We could use that, or otherwise, whenever i get onto the map, I'll build a smaller railgun battery as a demo, just as it looks like the resolution isn't going to make it.
Jazur
I don't think there are any desert in Refugia
Jazur, Winlandy
Well, guess my tiny island better be big enough to house a demo railgun array lol. I don't need an asteroid coming to ruin my day cause I wasn't prepared.
Jazur, Winlandy
I mean, if you shoot a large rock; it doesn't just disappear. It would break apart into smaller fragments. We'd need to mesure the size of the asteroid in order to determind how small we would need to make the fragments so that they could burn up in the atmosphere. =)
(But yes, I really like your idea and sorry for the paragraph)
Floofybit, Portmanteau, Jazur
I mean... Are we allowed to attack other regions and conquer land for our's? I think that would be cool *and* could help us out with space issues. :D
Jazur
Theoretically if we used nuclear projectiles, we could aim near, not at the asteroid. It would knock any asteroid off course, into the ocean perhaps, or knock it out of the way entirely. (you're cool on the paragraph, I like feedback on these concepts)
Jazur, Winlandy
Alright, hear me out. We float a giant cloud in the trajectory of the asteroid so little sediments of rock get stuck in the rain droplets and the asteroid pieces fall down like rain. It's a flawless plan! What could go wrong?
Chacapoya, Araine, Cadenzana, Portmanteau, Istastioner, Jazur, Winlandy, Parvesha
We don't need to do that! 😳
Floofybit has a desert in the southeast mainland with beautiful arches and hiking trails so there is a desert in Refugia but it would kind of be an eyesore to put a big gun their 😅
Delta Vega Iv, Araine, Portmanteau, Istastioner, Jazur, Winlandy, Parvesha
Oh, you assumed only one railgun would be need for a full interception? Stonehenge had eight, and even then didn't fully intercept the fragments. I'm writing out the design specs rn for Archer, my proposed turret network. I'll let ya'll know how I do.
Jazur
Hear ye hear ye, another discussion post arrives... one for "Removal Of Space Debris"!
Thread: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=520708
The proposed resolution functionally begins by defining space debris, before instituting The Debris In Space Committee (DISC) to develop ways to remove space debris. It is then ordered that all nations that are technologically capable of removing space debris (based on DISC's perception) must work to remove space debris, with DISC being able to subsidize said technologies if necessary and provide assistance with deployment. DISC is also empowered to give compensation for any data, process, or research that will help it in its mission. The proposal then finishes off by stating that no member nation may oppose DISC-led efforts to remove space debris, but they may hold their own separate removal efforts alongside WA-mandated ones.
In my opinion, while the resolution itself is sound in a technical/legal manner, conceptually it isn't really suitable. It essentially forces certain nations to play clean-up for other nations who may elect to ignore space debris should their WA-mandated efforts to prevent its creation fail. IMO, the WA needs another approach to dealing with space debris - perhaps by giving DISC itself the duty to remove it. Either way, it isn't really fair to force some nations to clean up the mess of others when there are other possible methods like having DISC share space debris-cleaning technology with nations who don't have it.
For this reason, I recommend voting AGAINST "Removal Of Space Debris" - but for anyone who hasn't shared their opinion yet, what are your thoughts? :o
Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Istastioner, Jazur, Parvesha
This is a wonderful idea. To complement your efforts, we could start a program where we bus schoolkids out to space as volunteers to pick up some of the litter after classes let out. It would count towards fulfilling their community service requirements. What could go wrong?
Chacapoya, Araine, Floofybit, Istastioner, Jazur, Winlandy, Parvesha
It's so nice to have you all here! Theres a lot of great information in the welcome telegram youve already received, but I have a few things that might help settling into the region easier. Refugia is part of a larger community named Calamity Refuge, or CalRef. We have a discord here: https://calref.network/chat/ and a forum here: https://calref.cc/index.php. Links for both are in the region description box at the top of this page. We host game nights and movie nights from the discord server from time to time. On the forum we have RPs and spam games (not really related to NS). If you want a place to just chill and talk to friendly people, those are great spaces for that.
If you haven't already done so, please consider joining the World Assembly and endorsing the delegate (that's me!). Click the link to learn more information on what that means and how to do it. If you join the World Assembly, you can endorse as many other nations in the region as you want, and get endorsed in return. You'll also become a Refugia Member State, which means you can vote in our elections and get a spot on our map of Refugia!
If you have any questions, please let us know. Everyone here is really friendly- I think weve only ever had one fatality from an introduction. If you prefer to read something pre-written over asking, however, check out this dispatch: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1449847
Finally, if you are an alt nation (which just means if the nation tagged in this welcome message is not your main nation on NationStates), it is required by regional law for you to report your main nation and intentions in Refugia to the Operations Councillor (that's also me!). Thanks so much.
Chacapoya, Honeydewistania, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Teiya, Araine, Floofybit, Istastioner, Planet Risa, Jazur, Parvesha, Rhia Dical
Thank you for the warm (re-)welcome! :D
Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Jazur, Parvesha
Parvesha, that new custom banner looks sick! I like the collage of different landscapes
Chacapoya, Honeydewistania, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Tiralta, Istastioner, Jazur, Winlandy, Parvesha
Yeah Parvesha, it looks pretty cool
Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur, Parvesha
I'm flattered XD
Thank you so much! :D
Chacapoya, Honeydewistania, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur
I have a question if you don't mind. How did you make your flag that color? It looks great by the way.
Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur, Parvesha
Thank you! I used Canva; I just found some shapes and changed the colors.
Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur
What is your favorite color of the rainbow? 🌈
Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Cyan, Blue, or Violet?
Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Jazur, Winlandy, Parvesha
My answer may come as a surprise.
Chacapoya, Typica, Melenavenia, Araine, Floofybit, Cadenzana, Tiralta, Jazur, Parvesha
Definitely Tangerine!
(where is indigo?)
Typica, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, Parvesha
Ok thanks!
Araine, Floofybit, Jazur, Parvesha
Alright guys, meet the Refugia Railgun Aerospace Defense Proposal - A set of three railguns designed to smack asteroids out of orbit. I put it in an account dispatch. cheers, and please give me some ways to improve my writing. Thanks!
Porthosia, Jazur
A lovely proposition! Will we have a squadron named after a colour, comprised of highly skilled pilots to protect it?
Floofybit, Jazur, Archipelago Nine
yeyyow is good
Melenavenia, Floofybit, Porthosia, Winlandy, Parvesha
Yeah, of course! Perhaps we would need some form of parental organization to prevent some... rogue officers from... attempting a coup d'teat.
(Cough Erusea Cough)
Floofybit, Porthosia, Jazur
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