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Region: Refugia
Agree with Refuge. Also, given your nation's name, it's only fitting to fly the Cascadian flag proudly. The united hipsters would have it no other way :P
Cheesy Tots, Typica
Well, after running this country for over a year (longest consecutive run, I think) I've managed to get my first easter egg, ever. I've played this game on and off for near a decade, and just got my first easter egg.
AND THEN I GET A SECOND ONE IN THE SAME DAY. What is my luck?
Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Araine, Wolfielandia, Neurodiversity
Hello once again, Refugi! If you want to read about TEP, or maybe you're like me and you'll read a cereal packet if someone puts it in front of you, I am providing that ability.
The 21st Edition of the Eastern Pacific News Service has been published! Do give it a read - this month has topics including our new Delegate, their cabinet, ongoing flag contests, legal happenings with the region, N-and-Z-Day in review, and NS Trading Cards Season 3.
Check it out within:
Dispatch: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1795226
TEP Forum: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/the_east_pacific/epns-edition-21-lite-t19637.html
NS Forum: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=40116621#p40116621
Cheesy Tots, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Amiyoka, Antimai
I'm gonna go Sprigatito I think!
How are ye doing this fine Day my fellow Lads and Lassies?
Tiralta, Uwuguaya
Absolutely fuecoco! Not only did his final evo leak and it looks amazing, i also had an amazing name idea for it: zodiac!
Tiralta
Also on the topic of things Im obsessed about:
Does anyone here play mtg I need cheap commander recommendations if possible
Great thanks hbu
Fadnesia, Uwuguaya
You did the math wrong.
Hello there :)
You Scottish by any chance?
Fadnesia
Hi everyone! Today, I would like to tell you all about some envoy openings that we have. Initially, I was only going to advertise these spots in the discord, because I'm more active on discord, but when my announcement returned fruitless, I decided to resort here!
The FA dispatch glosses over what exactly an envoy is, but simply put, an envoy will maintain a diplomatic presence in the communities of our friends outside of Refugia- otherwise known as embassies! You will report back to the foreign affairs councillor (That's me!) with any big news or changes in said reason.
Now that we've cleared up the basics, the embassies that we need envoys for at the moment are Forest, 10,000 Islands, and Caer Sidi. If you are interested in this, it is greatly preferred that you have Discord. If you do, please join the Discord server linked on the Refugia home page, I'm Marianne in there! If you don't have Discord, then please telegram me, and we'll see if we can work out something solely using gameside communication. Again, it is very preferred that you do have Discord!
Thank you everyone! Have a nice day!
Typica, Melenavenia, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Ullrani, Mirandika
I'm allright thank you <3
Heh, no sadly not. I am though UK born, though I only lived there for under a year.
Uwuguaya
I hope this is satire, because it actually says in the edit that I acknowledge that I was doing
"1000 calculations in my head and they're all wrong."
Please tell me you're being satire with me
Uwuguaya
Correction to my math statement.
1 account per second every minute is 60.
60 x 12 = 720 accounts per minute
Every hour
720 x 60 = 43,200 accounts per minute
720 x 7 = 5,040 accounts per minute. This is our max
The least amount of time stated was around 15 seconds
15 x 12 = 180
720 x .15 = 108 accounts per minute. This is our minimum.
to find median
108 + 5,400 = 5508 (our min and max respectively)
Divided by 2, (2 numbers, our min and max)
5508 / 2 = 2754
the average is around 2754~
last time I have a test
i want to write some factbooks but i'm having trouble coming up with ideas. any advice?
Sylh Alanor
Think of what it means for you to be a nation of Allied Watermelons. Think of how such a nation would be organised, what would be its history and origins, how it would be ruled, etc. Start writing, then revise. I strongly recommend doing this in your favourite word processor or even in some basic Text editor (on a computer, not phone). Once you come up with something that seems to you coherent enough to present to the world, there you go! Time to Upload to NS. You can always add to it later.
On other News:
20 years. I can't believe it. But I don't think the NS Easter Egg issue would lie.
DV-IV (with its Improbability Drive and Space Fairy Cult) celebrates 20 years. Cheers!
Typica, Refuge Isle, Araine, Portmanteau, St Leone, Tiralta, Antimai, Neurodiversity
Hey yall.looking for a spot to place my other account. Are yall really active and how often are elections.
agreed.
I for example have started making a factbook about my nation with alot of general info, feel free to check it out for some inspiration Impreve ^^
Delta Vega Iv, Tiralta
I can assure you that we are not only very active on the RMB but in other spaces, most notably Discord. There are three elections a year, and currently those are held in February, June, and October. Now, if you're talking about placing a sleeper in the region, you have to declare the nation which is a sleeper.
Chacapoya, Typica, Tiralta, Jazur
For the first time in forever, I was the first person to endorse a new WA member. 🎉
Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Portmanteau, St Leone, Tiralta, Jazur, Antimai, Neurodiversity, Tavinstadt
I don't know exactly why, but thank you!
Hello, everyone.
Typica, Melenavenia, Jazur
Are you confused about the purpose of endorsements?
Sylh Alanor, Jazur, Tavinstadt
I was gonna move 1 account here and have one in a separate region which is what I meant. Thank you for the welcome. What positions are available in each month of the elections.
thanks! i'll think about that.
Sylh Alanor, Tiralta, Jazur
Why don't you do the literal minimum amount of effort necessary to learn about our region by reading our regional law. It contains all the answers about the Regional Council mechanics and more.
That said, our region and its government doesn't exist for your personal gain. We're not here for a job interview where you ask what we can give you. This region elects players who care about the community and wants to help build and improve it. If you just want to compare how our shinies look compared to other regions, definitely do not live here.
Thanks.
Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Tiralta, Jazur, Amiyoka, Ullrani, Antimai
Amazing! Thanks for filling me in! I will try to buy the card now! (when it's avaible)
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Tiralta, Jazur
Hello Refugi! Wow, two FA-esque posts in one day! I guess there really is a first time for everything. Anyhow, I will be invoking RRS 6B and holding a referendum for four days so you all can vote on the closure of our embassy with Celtia. You may vote here -> https://vote.calref.network/vote/42 and my statement is here! -> https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1796149
As always, I'm available to telegram if you have any concerns.
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Jazur, Antimai
One of my biggest regrets on the internet is making a Wikipedia account with a furry name as you cannot change your Wikipedia username. Now I can't even take my own edits seriously now that I've become an active Wikipedian.
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Portmanteau, Imperve, Tiralta, Polushia, Jazur, Amiyoka
Yeah, I'm still trying to wrap my head around things, haha
Junitaki-Cho, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur
If I remember correctly, endorsements have more of a subjective purpose. Some people use them as a way to give a nod to a nation, or a way to say "I love what you're doing here". But I know a lot of people in Refugia just endorse for the sake of endorsing! I personally endorse everyone because I simply like endorsing. It can be whatever you want to be! Don't forget to endorse the delegate though ;)
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, Antimai, Tavinstadt
Endorsements are nice because they can give you 1% gold badges in endorsements and influence, so endorsing everyone and getting endorsed back makes you immediately cooler. Endorsing the World Assembly Delegate - the person with the most endorsements in the nation - increases how much their vote counts for, which makes our region have more of a say in WA legislation passing or failing. And it also acts as a type of security: in the unlikely event that someone tried to take over our nation, everybody having high influence is good for us because it makes it harder for invaders to kick people. There's no reason not to spread the endorsement love around, and if it seems like a hassle, you can try Tart Dot CalRef to streamline the process.
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Araine, Portmanteau, Jazur, Amiyoka, Antimai, Tavinstadt
Cheap *commanders,* or cheap commander *decks?*
Because there's a big difference and I can give you a different answer for each one.
Chacapoya, Tiralta, Jazur
It is fitting, I just wish it wasnt so pixelated, but Im not sure thats possible with the new card design. The tree is looking a bit rough. I think it would look better if it were on a previous seasons design, where the image compression wouldnt be quite as front and center, but theres not much I can do about it.
Ive noticed some of the cards others here have inscribed, those fantastical landscapes look gorgeous. If you zoom in theres some pixelation, I dont think that can be avoided. Because no particular object in them is really the focus (unlike the tree in mine), its not noticeable unless youre really looking for it. I wager most people arent going to go looking for it.
Although Im also likely just being hard on it because its my flag. I know we tend to be a lot more critical of ourselves than is sometimes warranted. I dont know how noticeable it is to other people, but its the first thing I noticed. I heard we could go look at our cards, went to look at mine, and just immediately thought oh wow a pixelated tree.
Cheesy Tots, Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, Antimai
Anybody else anxiously watching Artemis 1?
OH MY GOD IT'S HAPPENING STAY CALM STAY CALM
Typica, Felzus, Jazur
outstanding launch, and now .. to sleep
Felzus, Jazur, Waywards Edge
Good cheap commanders I can build around
Also thanks for helping either way
s (h) ame
Typica, Jazur
I chose to invest in safely disposing of nuclear waste from nuclear power plants (stuff like synroc), and that gave me the WMD policy which was not what I wanted.
So I just accidentally made nukes, thats scary.
Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur
It's okay!
WESLR will help you dispose of them when you want to get rid of them
Tiralta, Jazur, Amiyoka
Yeah, no, I know. I did read it.
Thank you all for the endorsements. Even though I dont know why I get endorsed, but thank you still.
Typica, Tiralta, Jazur, Amiyoka
raider defense
also we like the funny endorsement badge
Typica, Jazur, Amiyoka, Antimai, Lycanjeskai, Uwuguaya
And for good reason! It's flashy and it has a cool logo. Nice first gold, too!
Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, Uwuguaya
Also thank you, The Pacific Northwest, you have been my first.
Typica, Tiralta, Jazur
So do we endorse each other all for reasons of safety?-And is there a list where I can see who I havent endorsed and who hasnt endorsed me?
Jazur
Here!
https://tart.calref.network/
Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, Uwuguaya
(copy it)
Jazur
You can use our own tool for this actually! Just go to tart.calref.network and fill in the name of your nation and region.
Edit: Waywards Edge beat me to it :o
Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, Waywards Edge, Uwuguaya
I am speed whenever I see a notice appear, mostly because discord taught me to hate pings
Chacapoya, Typica, Narwhal, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, Uwuguaya
Discord teaches internet etiquette well
Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Uwuguaya
Thank you.
Typica, Sylh Alanor, Jazur
Thank you nevertheless.
Sylh Alanor, Jazur
and it makes you mad whenever you get @everyone'd
Jazur
no problem
endorse Sylh Alanor or draw 25
Sylh Alanor, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur
Mhm, I think I already did endorse Sylh?-Also thank you, uwuwu
Typica, Sylh Alanor, Tiralta, Jazur, Waywards Edge
Apparently the cal.ref-site updates at 8-9 am here. Interesting. Anyhow, got the yet-to-be-endorsed nations down to 290.
Chacapoya, Typica, Jazur, Amiyoka
hold shift down on the assisted link opener
Jazur, Uwuguaya
That was weird. Cadenzana endorsed me only to then withdraw the endorsement and endorse me again lol.
Jazur, Waywards Edge
Mhm I dont know if Ill get to do the other 290 all today; thats a bit much plus I still got some puppets in other regions to manage, too. Maybe Ill do it in waves; like another 20 or so, then the next day the same and maybe on the weekends more; until theres none left to endorse.
Typica, Jazur, Waywards Edge
i did 150 in about an hour
Jazur
Just remember you can't have multiple nations in the world assembly at the same time.
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Tiralta, Jazur, Antimai, Uwuguaya
Sometimes people hit the unendorse button by accident.
Tiralta, Jazur, Uwuguaya
I didn't have the opportunity to see it live but I saw it later. It was definitely one of the most exciting and important launches ever.
Note that the mission still continues. The Orion capsule and the European Service Module are on their way to the moon and will arrive in a few days after a flyby.
[spoiler=Info pages][list][*]Live updates:
[list][*]https://www.nasa.gov/content/live-coverage-of-nasas-artemis-i-mission-to-the-moon
[*]https://www.space.com/news/live/nasa-artemis-1-moon-mission-updates[/list]
[*]SLS:
[list][*]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Launch_System
[*]https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_lau/sls.htm or https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_lau_det/sls_bl1_icps.htm (Artemis 1 version)
[*]https://www.boeing.com/space/space-launch-system/[/list]
[*]Orion
[list][*]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_(spacecraft)
[*]https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/orion-mpcv.htm[/list]
[*]Artemis 1
[list][*]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis_1
[*]https://www.nasa.gov/artemis-1
[*]https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/115
[*]https://go4liftoff.com/launch/sls-block-1-artemis-1?returnURL=%2Flaunches%3Fupcoming%3Dfalse
[*]https://www.supercluster.com/launches/artemis-i
[*]Spanish: https://lanzamientosespaciales.com/calendario/mision-artemis-1-sls-nasa/
[/spoiler]
Chacapoya, Tiralta, Jazur, Amiyoka
Yeah, sorry! I got the notif that you endorsed me, so I endorsed back. After that, I went to tart.calref and opened up all the links, one of which was you. I accidentally clicked "withdraw your endorsement" and had to re-endorse. :P
Chacapoya, Jazur, Uwuguaya
I finally got the Public Protest policy back! I swear it's my most flip-floppy policy.
Cheesy Tots, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Cadenzana, Jazur, Antimai, Uwuguaya
Apologies to the four people who I gave 3-4 notifications to. I was testing something out.
Jazur, West Islate
Nah Im always glad when my inbox isn't empty
Polushia, Jazur
Referendum Notice:
A referendum regarding modification of the Refugia Revised Statutes has been submitted, entitled Proscription Drug Coverage, authored by Refuge Isle, and seconded by Sylh Alanor, Tiralta, Amiyoka, and Junitaki-Cho. Having met all requirements, a vote is triggered at this time and all Member States are entitled to vote on its integration into Refugia's system of law.
You can view the text of the measure here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1796707
Vote today: https://vote.calref.network/vote/43
Voting concludes in one week, the 23rd of November, at 15:50 Pacific Daylight Time
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Narwhal, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Tiralta, Jazur, Amiyoka, Antimai
Doesn't this violate RRS 15,
15. The Region defines its military alignment as "Neutral", shunning the agendas and obligations of the world's self-interested regimes, and only acting in the direct defence of the Region's allies when determined to be necessary by the Councillor of Operations.
Also, could I have some context for RRS 16? It doesn't make that much sense.
Banning nations from entering the region does not set a gameplay alignment or compel Refugia to raid or defend random regions.
Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Jazur, Antimai
Post self-deleted by Avfallheim.
oh okay, I didn't understand what it meant
Thanks!
Tiralta, Jazur
Now for the most difficult task my country has faced yet, attempting to lower taxes without ruining my citizens' lives or tanking the economy
Typica, Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur, Waywards Edge
hoo-boy! I wish you the best of luck, as I've never managed such a feat myself. I've pretty much begun viewing NS taxation as the currency with which you get the other stats you want for your nation. The couple nations of mine which have a low, realistic taxation rate are not the nicest of places :P
I see. Well, for what it's worth, it doesn't look blurry to me. But I understand what you mean. You might try to just recreate the same flag, but with crisp and clean vector images and lines? And then, you could substitute the tree for a beaver!
Typica, Araine, Tiralta, New Equanimia, Jazur
Hi guys
Typica, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Aephony, Tiralta, Jazur, Antimai
Hmhmhm. There are a few good options out there. The Scarab God goes for only about $30 a copy right now, and U/B control is so much more fun when your opponent's graveyard is now yours to command. Krenko, Mob Boss is like $6-8 depending on the week and how "in" goblins are these days. Also maybe, Jhoira Weatherlight Captain if you like playing Izzet. She's like $4.
Junitaki-Cho, Jazur
If you build Jhoira, everyone will assume you're going infinite glass cannon Jhoira and hate you out of the game. At least in my experience. I've quite been enjoying my Rielle deck as an off the wall Izzet build, it's a cool take on spellslinging and a lot of cards fit it that wouldn't get played elsewhere.
Jazur
Thanks so much, I love goblin tribal so I might build a krenko deck now
A Million Dreams, Jazur
I want to get rid of them right now but seeing as they were created unintentionally, no one in the nation knows where they are or how they even came to be considering the issue option didnt say anything about nuclear weapons. The game also hasnt given me the option to reverse it so I guess Im stuck with the mystery nukes for a bit.
No problem, I just really like endorsing people.
Meanwhile mine just hit 80% for the first time. Id love to be able to fund all my nice, progressive policies with 50% at most but I dont suppose thats possible, every decision I make just raises them.
Unfortunately I dont have a computer right now so I dont have a good way of making or editing flags other than some free generators, and they dont have beavers or evergreen trees. Everything else doesnt work so well on my phone or requires me to download stuff and Im running out of storage. If it looks fine to everyone but me now then Ill probably just call it good enough.
Tiralta, Jazur, Waywards Edge, Uwuguaya
Did you use nuclear fission rods and enrich the fuel?
Jazur
Mhm, thank you, uwu :3
Jazur
Also if your tax rate is high, once youre an older nation (~3 billion pops) your nation classification wont change as much even if you lower taxes. And if you happen to have good public healthcare and public education policies you can probably cut down on spending by getting rid of your police force entirely. Crime will be low anyways, in combination with high compliance there wont be any huge issues if you do.
Weenus, Jazur, Lycanjeskai
Establishes that there shall be no legally recognized difference in the severity or illegality of a sexual assault charge
What does it mean by the illegality business?-It should be legal to charge for sexual assault; what is the proposal trying to say here?
Jazur
My taxation is honestly a fun game for me now. My goal is to reach 100% by the end of the year now
Sylh Alanor, Tiralta, New Equanimia, Jazur, Amiyoka, Antimai
hai friends
Tiralta, Jazur, Waywards Edge, Amiyoka
hailo friendo
Cheesy Tots, Tiralta, Jazur
I'm currently having a crisis over what to make my nation pretitle... It's gazette now, but that doesn't feel right -_- I never should have access to unlimited possibilities
Weenus, Cheesy Tots, Melenavenia, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur
tabloid?
Ey what is the deadline to apply to have a new treaty added to the . . december map I guess it would be?
Jazur
idk i just tg sylh then they take care of it
It's pretty cool
St Leone, Tiralta, Jazur
I have found a suitable substitute
Jazur, Waywards Edge
Does anyone know if the ridiculously long pre-titles are still a thing? It sounds like the perfect solution...
Delta Vega Iv, Weenus, Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, Amiyoka
well, you've cut off the rest of the clause, for one:
3. Establishes that there shall be no legally recognized difference in the severity or illegality of a sexual assault charge based on the sex, gender identity, sexual orientation, race, religion, status as a prostitute, social standing, or economic or political status of the accused or of the accuser, except where hate crime legislation applies,
(emphasis mine)
essentially, different cases of SA would not be given preferential treatment/be discriminated againt based on the status of the accuser or the accused. for the illegality part: say, for example, a nation would not be able to have SA against sex workers be legal, but otherwise have laws regarding SA that operate equally. (anyone, please correct me if I'm wrong)
Tiralta, Libervillea
I was just about to talk about this, but people beat me to the punch. You're not wrong, but here's the problem with a proposal such as this. There are people who would willingly falsely claim SA had occurred, just to see an innocent person go to prison. Sometimes it would be for their own sick sense of humor, other times, a falsely reported SA would be due to relationship issues. The list of reasons is long. In my view, it should be at least investigated as to whether an SA happened or not before litigation regarding such a matter reaches a court.
Uwuguaya
What is the rate at which that happens, IRL, versus the rate that no one believes the victim?
Sylh Alanor, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Jazur, Antimai, Lycanjeskai, Uwuguaya
....?
im not sure what you're trying to get at here.
as stated by the author within the forum thread for the proposal:
Edit: For the record, I plan on criminalizing perjury in a separate resolution, so that's the main reason it's not included in this resolution.
perjury is simply not within the purview of this proposal, that will come at a later date once (presumably,) this resolution passes. this is setting up a baseline which will then be built off of. previous drafts of the resolution did include excluding those that falsely accused from having the same protections, but it was found to be too complex for a single clause (iirc). from my interpretation, the purpose of this resolution is to specifically protect victims and bring charges against those that would discriminate/harass/obfuscate the case, not altering rulings or charges or evidence gathering procedures in the actual cases once they're brought to court.
Delta Vega Iv, Tiralta, Jazur, Uwuguaya
The rate of which a false SA claim happens changes, but I would hazard a guess to be between 1.5 and 9 percent. Not often, I'll admit. As for the rate nobody believes the victim, 690 of those are never believed or followed up on, while 310 are. But this is a rough estimate.
Oh, that's why that's not in the proposal. Well, that does change my thought process on it a bit.
Jazur, Uwuguaya
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Written by Refuge Isle.