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Region: Refugia
Me waiting for the Refugia Sci Fi map
Typica
I'll make your nations first, starting with Tobiastan since they replied first. If I feel like it and because I can't imagine my fellow Refugi minding even if they didn't reply, I might make jerseys for the rest of the nations on the regional map.
Thank you. :)
Typica, Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Tobiastan
Melenavenia thanks a lot mate, those jerseys look awesome
Melenavenia
any time cx
Melenavenia
Refugi Sci Fi map when
Typica, St Leone, Tiralta
just open the map up in fantasy map generator and change it to Sci Fi then BOOM! Ya got your Sci Fi map cx
Tiralta, Amiyoka
I have created a poll regarding the map
https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=193475
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Tiralta, Waywards Edge, Amiyoka
Lol
Typica, Melenavenia, Tiralta
@estebere sorry, i think i'm already in that spot! whoopies ig
Sorry, at the time I hadnt seen the present map because my computer didnt show it.
Uwuguaya
top ten defense forces
Uwuguaya
TATATATAAATATA (I always imagine someone singing it like this https://youtu.be/iAI8YMOPZws)
Delta Vega Iv, Tidelia
I went earlier this evening to the gym, just to discover they changed their hours.
They are now open (for the plan I have, which is subsidized) on Tuesday & Thursday between 22:00-24:00, and on Sunday between 19:00-20:30. So I'll have to switch to going there on Sunday. Oh well.
Typica, Tiralta
Those times are terrible, I'm so sorry
Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Tiralta, Quelidriquaqnas, Uwuguaya
If I wanted a real gym I'd have to go elsewhere and it'd be much more expensive. But it's a possible option.
Tiralta, Quelidriquaqnas, Uwuguaya
Anyway, I just raised DV-IV's Eco-Friendliness by a whole 0.75%! This is most definitely worth being called a "brancalandian puppet." I love this game.
Typica, Tiralta, Lycanjeskai, Quelidriquaqnas
Yes, as I said, use taxation correctly. Thats what we could have if our politicians used taxation that way.
Also the argument that disabled people need plastic straws either seems flimsy at best or I am oblivious to something thats a real thing thats going on.
However I see little point in keeping plastic straws alive, as whether or not they are recycle-able, is really kind of irrelevant to my point, since I dont think we should invest more in finite resources, like fossil fuels, at all.
Instead we should invest more heavily in wind power, solar power, geothermal power, and the like. Resources that regrow and regenerate.
Delta Vega Iv, Quelidriquaqnas
I outlawed gambling and introduced hieroglyphs to Uwuguaya, or in other words, yet another successful day for Uwuguayas matriarch.
Typica, Quelidriquaqnas
The hieroglyphs are extremely cool but I personally believe it is better to limit gaming as opposed to straight up banning it
Delta Vega Iv, Quelidriquaqnas, Uwuguaya
Good evening all
I can't seem to connect to the Refugia Discord Server
Is the invite in the WFE still valid?
Junitaki-Cho, Quelidriquaqnas, Uwuguaya
I agree, and I'd love to see an eco-friendly plastic, but the three things you've named here are types of power and not materials, we unfortunately can't replace the function of plastic straws with solar power. We need to investigate both power sources and materials that exist beyond being single-use.
Regarding the necessity of plastic straws, my dad had oesophageal cancer which heavily affected his ability to swallow and eat, and he relied very heavily on straws for the last 6 months of his life. Due to the sheer number of straws he needed because he could only take small amounts of meal replacement drinks at a time, as well as how thoroughly they needed cleaned and how little time any of us looking after him had to spend washing them out, plastic straws were a lifesaver, and they were something we needed for him.
I'm genuinely glad you haven't personally had the experiences that lead to the discussion over plastic straws. However, just because you don't understand from your own experience does not mean that it's a flimsy point; there are tons of articles and videos from others who are affected by this issue explaining exactly why straws are needed and those made of alternative materials don't work if you look online.
Chacapoya, Junitaki-Cho, Antimai, Quelidriquaqnas
Why don't we just use cheap metal straws made of gallium or something?
Araine
I had to google gallium and I am now cackling, thank you XD
Quelidriquaqnas
It seems to be working for me. Maybe there was a momentary service interruption or something.
Vylixan Gaea
Regarding alternatives, what are your opinions on bamboo/compost based biodegradable straws?(like the phade straws, for example)
I've personally encountered them quite a couple times in California, but not much where I live (Nevada), and I've always wondered why they're not as popular. Just curious what your opinions on them are, if any
If bamboo straws were as cheap and common as plastic straws, then possibly, yeah. But I've never seen them, although I have seen bamboo fabric and toothbrushes.
Junitaki-Cho, Tidelia, Uwuguaya
I think a large part of it is how little recognition they get. They might've ended up being more popular if brought up when the initial debates about plastic straws began a couple years ago
Junitaki-Cho
No idea, I tried different devices, no dice.
Anyway, I sent my card out to the people in this region that I know are collecting Refugia cards.
If there are more people that are looking for Refugia cards please let me know, I'm happy to help out.
I wanted to ask who is looking for Refugia cards on Discord, but sadly that is not possible at the moment.
So I'll just post it here.
Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Tiralta, Uwuguaya
I am collecting cards!
Junitaki-Cho, Vylixan Gaea, Tiralta
Great, next card will be coming your way as soon as I get another one :).
Chacapoya, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Lycanjeskai
Thank you!
Chacapoya, Junitaki-Cho
I appreciate the thought! I've got a collection going too, I'm all the way up to two cards so far. Definitely interested in getting more, I just haven't taken the time to go through and place bids on everything.
Chacapoya, Araine, Tiralta, Lycanjeskai, Uwuguaya
Hello all,
I am pleased to announce the 2022 Refugia Factbook Writing Competition
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1799745
The Star Enpire, Chacapoya, Catiania, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Antimai, West Islate, Quelidriquaqnas
Reclaimed much lost pizza progress thanks to a good issue.
Chacapoya, Araine, Portmanteau, Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats, Tiralta, Lycanjeskai, Uwuguaya
Hey folkens! I'm hoping to do a Refugia movie night in the next week and I was hoping to take suggestions for what people would want to watch! It'd be streamed in the discord, so if you're not there already, feel free to join! Dates are flexible at the moment as well!
Typica, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Antimai
I see... a world of wonder. I see... a brightening path. The Force beckons me, yet I know not which paths to take...
Delta Vega Iv, Tiralta, Uwuguaya
Dungeons & Dragons (2000)
Chacapoya, Typica, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Antimai
I think that my purchasing of The Pacific Northwest S3 from The Pacific Northwest is surprisingly my first instance of buying a card from the nation the card is based on.
Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Liphia, Tiralta
Typica, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Araine, Liphia, Tiralta, Antimai
Oh, sorry, but why do i.e. metal straws dont work?
Which is outright weird. Bamboo should be cheap since it regrows in no time. Its just insane how fast it can grow.
We have several bamboo plants planted in our garden and theyre growth is just insane. The one species gets up to 5 metres while the smaller one still grows wild and can get tall, too. So not as tall.
Im not sure if this is what they meant but Ive heard metal straws are a pain to clean. Ive cleaned test tubes before and those require a special brush to clean properly. I cant imagine trying to properly clean out something even smaller, and I dont know how well a dishwasher can really get into something that narrow, Id always be wondering if it missed something.
Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Antimai, Uwuguaya
Again, there are lots of more knowledgeable people than me on this who I highly recommend you find, but the main problem I've seen with metal straws are that if you have a disability that affects jaw control or seizures, you're at risk of breaking your teeth or cutting your mouth if you suddenly bite down hard on a metal straw, whereas if you bite on a plastic straw it breaks for you and is less likely to give you a major cut. They also often can't be used with hot food and drinks since metal conducts heat.
And of course, the problem with all reusable straws: if you have a disability that greatly drains your energy as well as meaning you need straws to eat or drink, who is washing all of your straws for you? Most people don't have full time carers even when they need them, but even if you do, what happens if your carer has gone out for a few hours and you've run out of straws but you need to eat or take medication on a schedule?
And I know washing a straw is a super quick and simple task for most people, but I had chronic fatigue for 2½ years (and although much better now I am still not fully recovered 5 years later) and for most of those 2½ years I needed help putting socks on or brushing my teeth because they took too much energy. Washing straws every day, multiple times a day, if I'd needed them would have been impossible.
Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Cadenzana, Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats, Jagtopia, Antimai, Wolfielandia, Uwuguaya
I really like your flag Rasshald! :D
I've done that a handful of times at this point and each time I am confused as to how I did it without realizing.
Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Uwuguaya
I did a round of card farming, I send all of Refugia cards I found to Tiralta, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Melenavenia, and Liphia, I tried to balance out to whom I gave cards but I think I did a piss poor job of it. I need to find a better way of not trying to favour anyone.
Now I'm going to take a break and massage my poor wrists :D
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Melenavenia, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats, Tiralta, Uwuguaya
Thank you!
Typica, Melenavenia, Araine, Vylixan Gaea, Uwuguaya
hmm. well. i typed this up last night but fell asleep before i could post it. same sentiment as the others who have responded to this, but i'll still throw my hat in the ring.
as others have said, the main issue comes down to cleaning. reuse of the same thing that comes into contact with someone's mouth over and over, other dirty dishes, and food/drink particulate increases the risk of improperly cleaning the straw and having bacteria propagate in it, potentially making the user ill. many disabled people have greatly weakened immune systems due to medications they may take + their conditions themselves, so even a minor infection can be very serious and even deadly. the cost of the use of many plastic straws to greatly lessen the chances of someone becoming deathly ill is more than worth it. this is the same situation with insulin pens, needles, and alcohol swabs used by diabetics. these things need to be sterile and single use/easily disposable due to the most essential part, the needle, being inserted into the person and coming into contact with blood. it's impossible to replace these with reusable/refillable products at the risk of people's health.
metal straws work for some people, but they're not a one size fits all solution, the same goes for other forms of reusable straws. my mother is disabled and has difficulty swallowing- she uses plastic straws. she wouldn't be able to use metal straws due to the less grippable material and the inflexible nature of them. she had her teeth removed, so she has to rely on using her gums to grip straws, as she can't suck hard enough to keep the straw in place with just her lips.
but, even with that, the use of plastic straws by the general population is nothing compared to the pollutants released by factories, oil rigs, and mine sites/mineral plants. blame and responsibility is shifted to comsumers to keep companies profitable, give them a positive appearance, and have taxpayers handle most of the labor when it comes to the handling of recycling. fun fact: the "introduction" of recycling in the US in the 50s was brought on by coalitions made up of public and private corporations/manufacturers. the waste produced by them with the increase of disposable packing was instead framed to be the consumer's problem rather than the producer's. with this, recycling plants and collection services are most often operated by the city/municipality, so the costs of these public services also fall on the consumer. recycling is beneficial, yes, but again is hardly a drop in the bucket against pollution from producers.
Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Uwuguaya
Are there any temp'ates for info factbooks? I feel the compulsion to type up my ideas of what is Jazur-
Tiralta
I believe most/all of these can be used as templates with credits to the creator as well as links to the original template - they should say somewhere within the text or template itself.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1548746
Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Jazur, Antimai, Uwuguaya
I have a lot of cards and very little interest in them. Anyone want them? First come-first served basis, because I dont want to organise all of this.
Typica, Araine, Uwuguaya
It seems you don't have enough bank to gift all of those cards to anyone who may want them (the epics and URs will cost 1.6 to gift), so it might be better to try to either sell some of the higher value ones or junk the lower value ones to build up more bank before gifting the rest!
Typica, Araine, Jazur, Antimai
The plan is to gift what I can and sell the rest.
Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Jazur, Antimai
i'd love Better Indonesia and The Alicorns, but like Tiralta said that'll take a lot of bank to gift. i'll happily buy them off of you! just name your price.
Neo Prutenia is 'ooking good - would you 'ike any bank in return?
Chacapoya, Melenavenia
We move forwards
Cheesy Tots, Tiralta, Estebere
Sometimes I like doing a silly crab walk!
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Liphia, Tiralta, Estebere
Thank you, I appreciate it! If there's stuff you're looking for, let me know and I'll keep an eye out.
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Sylh Alanor, Tiralta
You should try playing crab soccer!
Typica, Tiralta
OMG I could be in a crab world cup
Chacapoya, Tiralta
Thanks!!
Chacapoya, Typica, Melenavenia, Liphia, Tiralta
Refuge Isle please accept this as my entry for the 2022 Factbook Writing Contest.
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=tiralta/detail=factbook/id=1800156
Chacapoya, Typica, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Portmanteau, Jazur, Antimai
I believe I've completed jersey designs for everyone who requested one, but if I forgot someone, I am very sorry. If anyone else wants to request jersey designs before I move on to MAYBE making jerseys for everyone on the map anyway, please let me know! :)
I will at some point downsize the images in the factbook, but I have to manually downsize every single image, and I don't want to worry about that yet.
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=melenavenia/detail=factbook/id=1799404
Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Prodigal, Heinfield
Those are super cool! I can only imagine how much work those took
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Portmanteau, Tiralta
It doesn't take much effort, just trial, and error. I'm just using a custom jersey site with a 3D design tool. The address of the site is credited at the bottom of the factbook. If someone wanted to, they could easily make their own, but I'm just enjoying making them on my own.
Typica, Sylh Alanor, Portmanteau, Tiralta
Thanks so much for the Lycanjeskai one its so cool!
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Portmanteau, Tiralta
**beep boop**
Website here! I've got enough population to have a leader ooooo exciting i know i know
Now I need YOUR yes! YOUR suggestions for my leader name! Make it interesting, funny, and make sure it relates to websites or the internet in some way!
Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Tiralta, Antimai
Forgot to mention: I very nearly have a religion available as well! Submit your thoughts for that if you'd like too!
sorry for the double post
Delta Vega Iv, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Antimai
Accepted 👍
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Antimai
I wonder, who would win in a crab soccer duel: You, or Tater Tot?
For context, the entire crab soccer thing is from a series called Origami Yoda, and Tater Tot is a character from it that is pretty good at crab soccer.
Typica, Sylh Alanor, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur
The Carcinisation Cup!
Typica, Sylh Alanor, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Jazur
Given my general skill in all things athletics and sports, I can confidently say I would lose.
Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Lycanjeskai
oml amazing :O
I really like my away jersey cx
Typica, Melenavenia, Portmanteau, Tiralta
My nation's wealth gap went up by 1061% with one decision lol
Delta Vega Iv, Portmanteau, Tiralta
I really LOVE how you designed our national jerseys. The color palette is lovely, the emblem and pattern are spot on, and the font is so fun. Bravo.
Looks like a fun site, too.
Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Melenavenia, Tiralta
I have a card now! :D
Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Feu De Glace, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Tidelia, Heinfield, Uwuguaya
Yay! :DDD
*offers a grape to go with the card*
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Imperve, Tiralta, Uwuguaya, Matopoles
thank you for the grape
I will now eat it
Chacapoya, Typica, Tiralta, Uwuguaya, Matopoles
please make a biome map
Typica
I really should apply my nation to the map at some point!
Typica, Tiralta, Uwuguaya
Agreed. What about a human made of tater tots?
Uwuguaya
Like do I go with pacific islander because it would technically be true given the island nature of the region or become a potato or something? Really important questions.
I think Ill continue to think for a bit. Maybe once (or if) a new map is created there will be more to choose from and Ill have an easier time making up my mind while also trying not to be too difficult for the great maintainer of the map.
Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Tiralta, Weirtopia, Uwuguaya
Thank you both. :) Your nations were fun to do because you both have a plethora of information about your nations to work with and I tried my best to have the jerseys match your national lore.
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Portmanteau, St Leone, Tiralta, Uwuguaya
Happy Thanksgiving day everyone
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Portmanteau, Tiralta, West Remeshile, Prodigal, Antimai, West Islate
Yeah, I'm in the same boat as you.
Cheesy Tots, Typica, West Remeshile
Funny story- was writing my final essay for my Political Science course, and I happened to miss the note about a 3 page maximum. I wrote 8 pages and it was too late for me to change it :] I basically just begged the professor for forgiveness and submitted it anyway
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Tiralta, Istastioner, Jazur, Amiyoka, Ullrani, Antimai, Uwuguaya
Trying to get my own card. No sellers :(
Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Imperve, Tiralta, Uwuguaya
Referendum Notice:
A referendum regarding modification of the Refugia Revised Statutes has been submitted, entitled Referendum XVII: The Refugia Holiday Special, authored by Junitaki-Cho, and seconded by Tiralta. Having met all requirements, a vote is triggered at this time and all Member States are entitled to vote on its integration into Refugia's system of law.
You can view the text of the measure here: https://calref.cc/index.php?topic=222.0
Vote today: https://vote.calref.network/vote/44
Voting concludes in one week, the 1[sup]st[/sup] of December, at 16:00 Pacific Daylight Time
Referendum Notice:
"Proscription Drug Coverage" has passed and become law (17-2-7)
Finally, if you guys missed it, there's a factbook writing competition going on, and I'd love to see your entries. Maybe you're working on some now, but if you're not, consider giving it a try.
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Tiralta, Jazur, Antimai
Hello everybody :) I hope you've had a wonderful Thanksgiving if you're celebrating, and if not, a wonderful Thursday.
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta, Amiyoka, Antimai, Uwuguaya, East Blackacre
I've done this before; max was 8, I submitted 20. It worked out okay.
Delta Vega Iv, Cheesy Tots, Tiralta, Tidelia, Antimai, Uwuguaya, East Blackacre
Hi
Typica, Sylh Alanor, Tiralta, Jagtopia, East Blackacre
Hello?--From a New Nation
Typica, Sylh Alanor, Tiralta, Antimai, Chong Qing
Take the right path (pun intended)
William Walker Webster, Jr
I suggest Tangerinism as your religion (taking shelter amid all the fruit-bombs coming in)
[P. S.: Double post is not considered an issue here, but in future, if you are concerned about it, you can edit your previous post to include whatever you suddenly remember you should have included.]
Typica, Tiralta, -Darth Maul-, Website, Jazur, Antimai, Uwuguaya
I came across this interesting region with as interesting nations. 🤔
Tiralta, Jazur, West Islate
Ill be fine :D
Let the card purge commence! (Im deleting all my cards now - tune in when I bother opening my next wave of cards, Ill be happy to gift)
Jazur
AT 'AST, IT HAS COME TO PASS, Jazur is now officia'y socia'ist
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Liphia, Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats, Tiralta, Amiyoka
Time to throw a party for our newest socialist in the socialist club!
Typica, Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats, Tiralta, Jazur, Chong Qing, Neurodiversity
Omg I just accidentally lost my democracy thing how do I undo it
Chong Qing
welcome, to the good side of life.* :TM:
*St. Leone can not guarantee that it is the good side of life.
Jazur, Chong Qing
You should get an issue that reverses it within the next few days.
Chacapoya, Typica, Chong Qing, Lycanjeskai, Uwuguaya
Assembled with Dot's Region Saver.
Written by Refuge Isle.