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Technocratic Founder wrote:Man... a world without religion. It'd be paradise...

Ehh, no thanks.

Its not religion, its how people abuse it.

Ritanstan, Hetiono Kanerryis

Technocratic Founder wrote:Man... a world without religion. It'd be paradise...

That would be great, without religions, we can use their money in scientific research, space exploration, or use it to help the poor people around the world.

Technocratic Founder, Zukunftwelt

instead of removing religion, since many people have a religion or a belief, religion leaders should use their platform and influence to like promote science and scientific research to their followers right?

Stratoss wrote:That would be great, without religions, we can use their money in scientific research, space exploration, or use it to help the poor people around the world.

Ritanstan wrote:instead of removing religion, since many people have a religion or a belief, religion leaders should use their platform and influence to like promote science and scientific research to their followers right?

I 100% agree. The banning of religion would anger lots of religious people, but if their leaders just supported medicine and science the world could be a lot better.

Ritanstan

Adontia wrote:I 100% agree. The banning of religion would anger lots of religious people, but if their leaders just supported medicine and science the world could be a lot better.

yup... imagine how much more people could be informed of more simple scientific things instead of useless things that some religions teach... pfft

Technocratic Founder, Microsa

Ritanstan wrote:yup... imagine how much more people could be informed of more simple scientific things instead of useless things that some religions teach... pfft

I feel like that's the job of the government, not the religious leaders.

North Vlanderberg wrote:I feel like that's the job of the government, not the religious leaders.

well i agree that it's partly the government's job, but imagine if religious leaders used their influence to their followers to inform about scientific practices and research, then more people will get informed right?

Ritanstan wrote:well i agree that it's partly the government's job, but imagine if religious leaders used their influence to their followers to inform about scientific practices and research, then more people will get informed right?

Instead they spend their time doing quite the opposite, and actively harming the consciousness of the population.

Ritanstan

Hello I am new i just started, Im looking for some help anytips. PS My name is Jzr On the discord

Technocratic Founder, Uncuteatoo

Yakkos Empire wrote:Hello I am new i just started, Im looking for some help anytips. PS My name is Jzr On the discord

Ah I see you. Let me get you masked over there :)

I never thought a place like this existed , this is great !

Technocratic Founder, Uncuteatoo

Yakkos Empire wrote:Hello I am new i just started, Im looking for some help anytips. PS My name is Jzr On the discord

I joined today too so you are not the only one

Technocratic Founder, Uncuteatoo

Ritanstan wrote:well i agree that it's partly the government's job, but imagine if religious leaders used their influence to their followers to inform about scientific practices and research, then more people will get informed right?

Yes I agree that religious leaders should be progressive, and encourage their followers to stay informed, I'm just saying that the point of most religions isn't only to inform their followers on something that they can learn somewhere else.

Mouhland wrote:I never thought a place like this existed , this is great !

I tried to carve out a little slice of heaven, lel

Tzanania wrote:I joined today too so you are not the only one

Indeed! We have had a hell of a lot of people joining over the past 24 hours. Drew Durnil has really done a number on the game.

Technocratic Founder wrote:I tried to carve out a little slice of heaven, lel

Indeed! We have had a hell of a lot of people joining over the past 24 hours. Drew Durnil has really done a number on the game.

i am actually here because of him

Uncuteatoo, Stratoss

Ritanstan wrote:instead of removing religion, since many people have a religion or a belief, religion leaders should use their platform and influence to like promote science and scientific research to their followers right?

the problem is that some religious people and their leaders, specifically the fanatic ones, reject some scientific investigations and try stop them.

Ritanstan

Technocratic Founder wrote:I tried to carve out a little slice of heaven, lel

Indeed! We have had a hell of a lot of people joining over the past 24 hours. Drew Durnil has really done a number on the game.

I started playing because i saw his videos.

Mouhland wrote:i am actually here because of him
me too

Anyone here because of Drew

Ritanstan, Stratoss, Tzanania

Technocratic Founder wrote:I tried to carve out a little slice of heaven, lel

Indeed! We have had a hell of a lot of people joining over the past 24 hours. Drew Durnil has really done a number on the game.

what do you think about us (newcomers)?

Technocratic Founder wrote:Instead they spend their time doing quite the opposite, and actively harming the consciousness of the population.

Not really. Religions tend to get bad stereotypes from the few churches and stuff that are actually super conservative, but many religious centers aren't adversed to change and certainly don't "harm the consciousness of the population"

Is there a way to change flag ?

Uncuteatoo

Mouhland wrote:Is there a way to change flag ?

Yes go to settings

Technocratic Founder

Mouhland wrote:Is there a way to change flag ?

Yeah, go to the settings... You will see

Technocratic Founder

Mouhland wrote:i am actually here because of him

Tzanania wrote:I started playing because i saw his videos.

Blockja wrote:Anyone here because of Drew

Stratoss wrote:me too

Lol my point exactly.

Microsa wrote:what do you think about us (newcomers)?

I certainly like having more people in the region! But yeah, you guys have been a lot of work, and you nearly crashed the whole game yesterday with the massive initial influx. Hopefully I'll be able to keep you peeps around, show you what there is to NS beyond the basic surface level, and turn you into pretty great players :)

Ceterra, Ritanstan, Stratoss, Socialist Imperators, Tzanania

Technocratic Founder wrote:Lol my point exactly.

I certainly like having more people in the region! But yeah, you guys have been a lot of work, and you nearly crashed the whole game yesterday with the massive initial influx. Hopefully I'll be able to keep you peeps around, show you what there is to NS beyond the basic surface level, and turn you into pretty great players :)

I’m sorry if we nearly crashed the game :V

Technocratic Founder, Uncuteatoo, Ceterra, Socialist Imperators

The Great Hiatus wrote:I’m sorry if we nearly crashed the game :V

Hehe, don't worry too much about it. The R/D crowd had a fit because update got borked, but in the long run it should all be fine. They'll have a lot of new recruits out of this, just like I do XD

Technocratic Founder wrote:Hehe, don't worry too much about it. The R/D crowd had a fit because update got borked, but in the long run it should all be fine. They'll have a lot of new recruits out of this, just like I do XD

This time is like a second life for this game.

Tzanania wrote:This time is like a second life for this game.

Eh we get large booms from things every now and then. We actually had one a couple of months ago when someone posted about NS on reddit and it saw a lot of traffic. This site has been going since 2002/3, and it'd have kept going with or without the boom. That said, it is certainly nice to have a load of fresh faces around.

That’s good!!! That means this game is becoming more popular each day!!

Technocratic Founder, Uncuteatoo, Stratoss

I think drew durnil did most of the job

I also came here because of ya boy Drew and I hope we can all be great friends

Uncuteatoo

I have a question? Is it good to have 0,1% black market.

Tzanania wrote:I have a question? Is it good to have 0,1% black market.

Yeah, just keep your eye on it.

Tzanania

Microsa wrote:Yeah, just keep your eye on it.

Thanks!

Tzanania wrote:I have a question? Is it good to have 0,1% black market.

Cool!!

I must say I was very surprised when I came in through another way and suddenly saw drew being mentioned all over the place

Post self-deleted by Dijkland.

Yeah, came through due to Durnil as well... but I didn't even watch like a minute of his video on here.

Dijkland wrote:I must say I was very surprised when I came in through another way and suddenly saw drew being mentioned all over the place

Kind off the reason a lot of us started playing the game

Impeerium Of Man wrote:Kind off the reason a lot of us started playing the game

Yeah.

Impeerium Of Man

I mean I would have played this game before but I didn't know it existed

Uncuteatoo

Impeerium Of Man wrote:I mean I would have played this game before but I didn't know it existed

Same

Uncuteatoo, Impeerium Of Man

Impeerium Of Man wrote:I mean I would have played this game before but I didn't know it existed

Same for me as well... If I had known this thing existed before, I would've played it already haha

Impeerium Of Man

Well, tbh I just started cuz of drew but I don't really like him

Inseria wrote:Well, tbh I just started cuz of drew but I don't really like him

Actually me too, I don't like him too.

Microsa wrote:Actually me too, I don't like him too.

He seems falsely oblivious sometimes

Hello. I am new to this. Is there anything I need to know other than what was in the telegraph?

Uncuteatoo

God this move realm messages are hilarious. "This isn't gonna be one of those long drawn out messages". Proceed with a long ass message.

Eunorica, Microsa

Impeerium Of Man wrote:God this move realm messages are hilarious. "This isn't gonna be one of those long drawn out messages". Proceed with a long ass message.

Big facts

Impeerium Of Man

Tzanania wrote:I joined today too so you are not the only one

Same

Impeerium Of Man wrote:God this move realm messages are hilarious. "This isn't gonna be one of those long drawn out messages". Proceed with a long ass message.

Impeerium Of Man wrote:God this move realm messages are hilarious. "This isn't gonna be one of those long drawn out messages". Proceed with a long ass message.

Admittedly it is quite hard to strike a balance between information delivery and being concise in recruitment TGs, all while trying to be attracting to potential recruits...

Impeerium Of Man

they are VERY anoying

Does anyone need an endorsement

Technocratic Founder wrote:Admittedly it is quite hard to strike a balance between information delivery and being concise in recruitment TGs, all while trying to be attracting to potential recruits...

You did a pretty good job cause I actually bothered reading it to the end.

Technocratic Founder

Out of curiosity, how many people actually answer those compared to how many just join right away?

Technocratic Founder wrote:Admittedly it is quite hard to strike a balance between information delivery and being concise in recruitment TGs, all while trying to be attracting to potential recruits...

Technocratic Founder

Kiranistania wrote:Does anyone need an endorsement

I do :) I've endorsed u again too haha

Uncuteatoo

Mouhland wrote:what is that ?

if u've got two you could start a WA

Technocratic Founder wrote:Admittedly it is quite hard to strike a balance between information delivery and being concise in recruitment TGs, all while trying to be attracting to potential recruits...

ngl i saw "social" and then "union" and i joined right away

I understand but you also can't say that quote and actually send the longest message out of all the others like some did to me

Technocratic Founder wrote:Admittedly it is quite hard to strike a balance between information delivery and being concise in recruitment TGs, all while trying to be attracting to potential recruits...

Technocratic Founder

Ritanstan wrote:I do :) I've endorsed u again too haha

aw what a legend

Ritanstan

who else needs endorsements? i'm kinda on an endorsing spree haha just make sure to endorse me as well hehe

Technocratic Founder

Ritanstan wrote:who else needs endorsements? i'm kinda on an endorsing spree haha just make sure to endorse me as well hehe

I got u

Ritanstan

Zestria wrote:Out of curiosity, how many people actually answer those compared to how many just join right away?

I don't get too many actual responses to it, though I try to quickly answer any that I do get. Most people will just not read it, while those who do mostly don't reply, even if they join. This surge has artificially boosted numbers, but in the run currently going about 18% of delivered telegrams have been read, while about 1.5% of delivered TGs have resulted in a recruit. Normally those would be sitting at 10% and about 0.5% respectively.

Quick question, how would one go about getting on the map?

Uncuteatoo

Apellidor wrote:Quick question, how would one go about getting on the map?

You ask josh in #ooc on the discord

Technocratic Founder

Technocratic Founder wrote:I don't get too many actual responses to it, though I try to quickly answer any that I do get. Most people will just not read it, while those who do mostly don't reply, even if they join. This surge has artificially boosted numbers, but in the run currently going about 18% of delivered telegrams have been read, while about 1.5% of delivered TGs have resulted in a recruit. Normally those would be sitting at 10% and about 0.5% respectively.

I´m honestly surprised that so many people just join, especially with how these messages are set-up. I can definitely see why one would go for a generic general letter, putting a lot of effort into every single recruit would be madness, but they are basically ads. Most people wouldn´t just trust an ad, so why do they do it here? I think one should at least check if they care enough to answer to a reply. Although, this is admitedly non-permanent and not linked to your actual life in any way, but still.

Zestria wrote:I´m honestly surprised that so many people just join, especially with how these messages are set-up. I can definitely see why one would go for a generic general letter, putting a lot of effort into every single recruit would be madness, but they are basically ads. Most people wouldn´t just trust an ad, so why do they do it here? I think one should at least check if they care enough to answer to a reply. Although, this is admitedly non-permanent and not linked to your actual life in any way, but still.

I think you answered your own question here, lol.

Random question. Just how a technocratic country gives people government positions based on their skills and governance, can a free democracy also be a technocratic country as well?

Technocratic Founder, Uncuteatoo

Technocratic Founder wrote:I think you answered your own question here, lol.

Yeah. Odds are, I´m getting into this a bit too much. Oh well, no harm done.

Technocratic Founder

Awessla wrote:You ask josh in #ooc on the discord

United South Africa wrote:Random question. Just how a technocratic country gives people government positions based on their skills and governance, can a free democracy also be a technocratic country as well?

hey are you from SA?

Technocratic Founder

Kiranistania wrote:hey are you from SA?

Yep. You?

Technocratic Founder

Also quick question, how would one become a citizen on the discord?

Uncuteatoo

United South Africa wrote:Random question. Just how a technocratic country gives people government positions based on their skills and governance, can a free democracy also be a technocratic country as well?

I feel like it's a trade-off. If the democratic culture that has been built values expertise, then sure, but that's not particularly realistic. You'd probably need to have a statutory way to gatekeep who could run in elections to ensure only qualified people could, or something along those lines. Of course, broadly governments run on civil services as much as any elected officials, and the UK's civil service for example is rather technocratic in nature anyway.

Awessla, Ceterra

Mouhland wrote:they are VERY anoying

If you're referring to the recruitment telegrams, you can turn them off in settings>telegrams: preferences

Technocratic Founder

Technocratic Founder wrote:I feel like it's a trade-off. If the democratic culture that has been built values expertise, then sure, but that's not particularly realistic. You'd probably need to have a statutory way to gatekeep who could run in elections to ensure only qualified people could, or something along those lines. Of course, broadly governments run on civil services as much as any elected officials, and the UK's civil service for example is rather technocratic in nature anyway.

Because couldn’t a country pass a law declaring that if someone wants to run for political office they need to have a degree.

Technocratic Founder

Is it still possible to host elections as a technocracy?

United South Africa wrote:Because couldn’t a country pass a law declaring that if someone wants to run for political office they need to have a degree.

Exactly!

Technocratic Founder wrote:Exactly!

Thanks. Has a technocratic democracy ever existed in real life?

I would say that for someone running ofice they must have a master in any career.

Technocratic Founder wrote:I feel like it's a trade-off. If the democratic culture that has been built values expertise, then sure, but that's not particularly realistic. You'd probably need to have a statutory way to gatekeep who could run in elections to ensure only qualified people could, or something along those lines. Of course, broadly governments run on civil services as much as any elected officials, and the UK's civil service for example is rather technocratic in nature anyway.

Basically that. But, in theory, basically (almost) any political system is compatible with technocracy, as "the person best fit to rule" being the ruler would eliminate most issues that authoritarian systems have and in a perfect democracy people would vote for those who are best fit to govern anyway, because that is simply reasonable. Realistically, there is obviously no objective way to quantify that (and people have this habit of making stupid choices), so theres also no way to ensure this. But a liberal democracy is perfectly capable of a technocratic approach by simply having the elected officals delegate task to suitable appointed experts (or even just listening to them).

Technocratic Founder

Do you think in the future that the world will have full blown technocracies?

Eunorica wrote:Do you think in the future that the world will have full blown technocracies?

One can dream

Eunorica, Refugee Empire

Technocratic Founder wrote:One can dream

Maybe you don't need to dream. I for one think Technocracy will grow in popularity in the future. It's certainly not the craziest idea out there.

Impeerium Of Man

Awessla wrote:Maybe you don't need to dream. I for one think Technocracy will grow in popularity in the future. It's certainly not the craziest idea out there.

I don’t think public support is the issue, more so the question of how to realize it and if it’s even feasible in the first place.

Awessla

Zestria wrote:I don’t think public support is the issue, more so the question of how to realize it and if it’s even feasible in the first place.

Yeah, good point.

Zestria wrote:I don’t think public support is the issue, more so the question of how to realize it and if it’s even feasible in the first place.

I agree, I find the basic principles noble, but standardized tests and other means of measuring intelligence only get close at best. Similarly, systems could be rigged incredibly easy. The closest I believe you could get is a republic, which we all know how far off of a technocracy that is.

Awessla

Not that it couldn’t ever work

Awessla, Hetiono Kanerryis

Quick question what are this card's

Impeerium Of Man wrote:Quick question what are this card's

Collectables! Imagine like trading cards

Technocratic Founder wrote:Collectables! Imagine like trading cards

I summon the three gods of extreme politics.

Mouhland wrote:I would say that for someone running ofice they must have a master in any career.

Agreed.

Has a technocratic democracy existed in history or even a technocratic country?

United South Africa wrote:Has a technocratic democracy existed in history or even a technocratic country?

Not really, no. Especially nothing explicit. The US government dabbled with the ideology in the 30s for a while, but eh

Which degrees do you think are most important in a technocracy? I say an Economics and probably Political Science degree.

Not related to United South Africa's question but, who is Drew Durnill?

United South Africa wrote:Which degrees do you think are most important in a technocracy? I say an Economics and probably Political Science degree.

Naturally, that would depend on a great many factors, most of all the section of government you want the person to run. Political "science" degrees really don't have much going for them, imo. Especially american ones. It's a thing focused almost exclusively on studying the existing US system, which is itself entirely incompatible with technocracy, and would need to radically be overhauled.

Vierslan

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