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i know the feeling lads

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Alekseandrea wrote:I respectfully disagree.

The whole question depends on the definition of noise.

If it is a vibration in the air, there will be a sound.

If it is the perception of said vibration, your definition of perception also has an influence.

What is capable of perceiving said vibration?

Does one need self-awareness to actually perceive something?

Alekseandrea, you are an expert on G*d, or G*ds. I know my trees. Trees do perceive, they respond to stimuli, and as Heisenberg insists, the act of observing an action changes the action. Talk to your trees, they'll tell you what's what...

Matrixulated wrote:Suddenly I feel very exposed and inadequate.

Mind . . . Blown . . . Aaaarghhhh!

M.

Now you know the purpose of theology, Matrixulated. It's entire purpose is to blow other people's minds...

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Rogue Lumberjacks wrote:Alekseandrea, you are an expert on G*d, or G*ds. I know my trees. Trees do perceive, they respond to stimuli, and as Heisenberg insists, the act of observing an action changes the action. Talk to your trees, they'll tell you what's what...

Talking to trees...

I drew the line at talking to cats.

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Alekseandrea wrote:Talking to trees...

I drew the line at talking to cats.

Talk to your trees, give them a hug from time to time, you'll both be the better for it, man...

And what do you have against cats, mine talk to me all the time. Usually they ask when dinner is, but they have been known to say other things...

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Alekseandrea wrote:Talking to trees... I drew the line at talking to cats.

Rogue Lumberjacks wrote:[...] cats, mine talk to me all the time. Usually they ask when dinner is, but they have been known to say other things...

But cats sometimes talk to trees too (well mostly because there are birds on it). And also invisible beings. Catgirls do the same, it's considered normal (usually) :3

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Rogue Lumberjacks wrote:Alekseandrea, you are an expert on G*d, or G*ds. I know my trees. Trees do perceive, they respond to stimuli, and as Heisenberg insists, the act of observing an action changes the action. Talk to your trees, they'll tell you what's what...

Some trees are severely damaged, injured, burnt, nigh on destroyed and dead, then from out of the tumbled, twisted, splintered, and spoilt pile of twigs, branches, rough cut logs or "timber-in-waiting", and exposed roots, something finds a way back to the land of the Living; out from dead and decaying matter, sprouting back into Life - Are these Trees not Zombie Trees?!

Rogue Lumberjacks wrote:Now you know the purpose of theology, Matrixulated. It's entire purpose is to blow other people's minds...
All the better to get at those delicious delectable brains!! Haha-hahahahaha!!!😅

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The Jedi-Zombi Jezus wrote:Some trees are severely damaged, injured, burnt, nigh on destroyed and dead, then from out of the tumbled, twisted, splintered, and spoilt pile of twigs, branches, rough cut logs or "timber-in-waiting", and exposed roots, something finds a way back to the land of the Living; out from dead and decaying matter, sprouting back into Life - Are these Trees not Zombie Trees?

Where to start with this? Zombie trees...Shudder...Furniture and houses are not Zombie trees. For one thing, my chair has never tried to eat my brain, even when watching TV, G*d forbid...

The Jedi-Zombi Jezus wrote:!All the better to get at those delicious delectable brains!! Haha-hahahahaha!!!😅

Blown minds and Zombie eating habits, this thread has taken a certain disgusting turn, has it not?

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idk of the zombies

i just want them to burn

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The Holy Empire Of Central Europe wrote:idk of the zombies

i just want them to burn

And now the arson begins, costing us trees, furniture and houses. Were will it stop?

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BRING THE FLAMETROWER GUYS

WE HAVE SOME ZOMBIES TO BURN

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Rogue Lumberjacks wrote:

. . . Blown minds and Zombie eating habits, this thread has taken a certain disgusting turn, has it not?

Meh!

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Changing the subject slightly...

● Nearly half (Approximately 47%) of Donald Trump supporters want undocumented immigrants to be deported immediately.

● 74% of Donald Trump supporters favour temporarily barring Muslims who are not citizens from entering the United States.

● 1/3 of of Donald Trump supporters support barring gays and lesbians from entering the country.

● 1/3 of of Donald Trump supporters believe that Japanese internment during World War II was a good idea.

● Mr. TrumpÂ’s coalition is more likely to disagree with the desegregation of the military (which was ordered in 1948 by Harry Truman) than other candidatesÂ’ supporters are.

● 31% of of Donald Trump supporters think whites are a superior race.

● 70% of Donald Trump supporters wish the Confederate battle flag were still flying on statehouse grounds.

● 38% of Donald Trump supporters wish the South had won the Civil War.

● 20% of Donald Trump supporters think "the freeing of slaves was a mistake"! - 20% OF TRUMP SUPPORTERS THINK SLAVERY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABOLISHED!!

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/02/25/upshot/measuring-donald-trumps-supporters-for-intolerance.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1&referer=http://m.facebook.com/

Anybody absolutely terrified yet by the prospect of a President Trump?! - It's like America wants their own Hitler!!

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The Jedi-Zombi Jezus wrote:Anybody absolutely terrified yet by the prospect of a President Trump?!

Viewing those elections from France, I'm amazed anyone can vote for him as President. Sadly we also have our own problematic sub-Trump-like candidate for 2017 and too many people will vote for her, many by lack of any other convincing candidate.

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He's not fun~nya! America needs a Matriarchy! And more cats :3 You can't wish harm for other people while having cats on your lap and theirs~

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Speaking from Holland, I have always thought of Americans as somewhat crazy.

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Daziria wrote:Speaking from Holland, I have always thought of Americans as somewhat crazy.

We're crazy, but we're fun. It's just sad what a laughing stock we've become. There are some really wonderful people here, and it can be a great place. Sadly I government reflects absolutely none of that for the rest of the world to see.

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Daziria wrote:Speaking from Holland, I have always thought of Americans as somewhat crazy.

Lol I'm American and I completely agree with you

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Perhaps Trump is a symptom of America's resistance against the slow, but steady loss of power it experiences.

Economically Asia is the new 'rising' power.

Politically, Russia chooses to ignore America and 'friends'. Without major consequences for Russia.

America isn't the power it used to be.

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Alekseandrea wrote:Perhaps Trump is a symptom of America's resistance against the slow, but steady loss of power it experiences.

Economically Asia is the new 'rising' power.

Politically, Russia chooses to ignore America and 'friends'. Without major consequences for Russia.

America isn't the power it used to be.

All we have left is our outreaching military power. Also my first message on these boards.

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Alekseandrea wrote:Perhaps Trump is a symptom of America's resistance against the slow, but steady loss of power it experiences.

Economically Asia is the new 'rising' power.

Politically, Russia chooses to ignore America and 'friends'. Without major consequences for Russia.

America isn't the power it used to be.

America isn't what it used to be because we're the spoiled, entitled brats of the world. We've forgotten how to work hard, and earn the things we want. Not to mention, being bullies who solve problems with bombs instead of brains doesn't help our international image. I think a lot could be solved by repairing our crumbling education system. Teach people to think, and make informed decisions. We have to many sheeple just following the media and the moron majority.

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America needs a new Henry Clay who work out or issues and get congress to do *something*, a new Teddy to break up Google Monsanto and Comcast, a new FDR to unify and inspire the nation, a Washington to set the precedent, and a Lincoln to tell people to stop being racist, despite being racist himself. That or we can just have another Civil War and hold these issues off for yet another 150 years.

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Our Lord Hutton wrote:America needs a new Henry Clay who work out or issues and get congress to do *something*, a new Teddy to break up Google Monsanto and Comcast, a new FDR to unify and inspire the nation, a Washington to set the precedent, and a Lincoln to tell people to stop being racist, despite being racist himself. That or we can just have another Civil War and hold these issues off for yet another 150 years.

Can such effective leaders as those from the past exist in today's corrupt American political system?

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Civildiscordia wrote:Can such effective leaders as those from the past exist in today's corrupt American political system?

If Herbert Hoover (pre-presidency mind you) can do great things for this nation during the most corrupt administration in American history (The Harding Administration), than yes, we can right now.

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Our Lord Hutton wrote:If Herbert Hoover (pre-presidency mind you) can do great things for this nation during the most corrupt administration in American history (The Harding Administration), than yes, we can right now.

It's refreshing to see someone who maintains optimism through this frustrating period in American history. I hope someday I find reason to share your faith.

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Our Lord Hutton wrote:If Herbert Hoover (pre-presidency mind you) can do great things for this nation during the most corrupt administration in American history (The Harding Administration), than yes, we can right now.

Respectfully disagree about the most corrupt administration in US history. Two other Presidents had far more cabinet level officers indicted and convicted~U. S. Grant and R.M. Nixon. And some of H. Hoover's greatest accomplishments came before he even entered government service as a civil engineer in China during the the Boxer Rebellion...

Civildiscordia wrote:Can such effective leaders as those from the past exist in today's corrupt American political system?

Not likely...

And as an American, The Donald scares and depresses me..

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Rogue Lumberjacks wrote:Respectfully disagree about the most corrupt administration in US history. Two other Presidents had far more cabinet level officers indicted and convicted~U. S. Grant and R.M. Nixon. And some of H. Hoover's greatest accomplishments came before he even entered government service as a civil engineer in China during the the Boxer Rebellion...

Not likely...

And as an American, The Donald scares and depresses me..

Trump reminds me of what I've learned of Hitler. Even the way he gives speeches looks right out of one of Hitlers rallies. Not to mention how much of Trump's agenda rests on blaming minorities for the woes of the nation. It is truly terrifying that so many people support him.

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Rogue Lumberjacks wrote:Respectfully disagree about the most corrupt administration in US history. Two other Presidents had far more cabinet level officers indicted and convicted~U. S. Grant and R.M. Nixon.

Harding definitely had more. Grant was second though. And Grant himself wasn't all that bad

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Our Lord Hutton wrote:Harding definitely had more. Grant was second though. And Grant himself wasn't all that bad

Most of what I've read suggest Grant was a bully, and a drunk, who rode his victory in the war into political success.

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Our Lord Hutton wrote:Harding definitely had more. Grant was second though. And Grant himself wasn't all that bad

Actually R. Regan had the most ever, 138 administration officers indicted and convicted (according to Wikipedia)...

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Rogue Lumberjacks wrote:Actually R. Regan had the most ever, 138 administration officers indicted and convicted (according to Wikipedia)...

I wouldn't trust that source.

Civildiscordia wrote:Most of what I've read suggest Grant was a bully, and a drunk, who rode his victory in the war into political success.

Maybe, but you know, history. He was a brutal as a general, but a good one, and after the war he was actually pretty cool from what I know. At the least, he was never personally found to be involved in any scandals.

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Our Lord Hutton wrote:I wouldn't trust that source.Maybe, but you know, history. He was a brutal as a general, but a good one, and after the war he was actually pretty cool from what I know. At the least, he was never personally found to be involved in any scandals.

Lack of scandal is rare for a president, and he didn't exactly face the easiest situation in office, so I'll give him credit. You must forgive me, in my part of the country, Grant, and Sherman are still swear words to people.

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Civildiscordia wrote:Lack of scandal is rare for a president, and he didn't exactly face the easiest situation in office, so I'll give him credit. You must forgive me, in my part of the country, Grant, and Sherman are still swear words to people.

The south I'm assuming? lol he was by no means the best, but. Pretty much everyone leading up to the war and through reconstruction had a bad side. Even Lincoln. Even Lee, whom I can't help but admire, despite my typical feelings towards confederates, had a bad side.

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Our Lord Hutton wrote:The south I'm assuming? lol he was by no means the best, but. Pretty much everyone leading up to the war and through reconstruction had a bad side. Even Lincoln. Even Lee, whom I can't help but admire, despite my typical feelings towards confederates, had a bad side.

Yes, Arkansas. Please don't mistake my geographical location for stereotypical behavior. I agree that any leader or public figure is going to have their admirable, and regrettable characteristics. In my lifetime unfortunately I don't think we've had a leader I would classify as "good". You read about Presidents who did so much for the country, then you have two variations of Bush who wanted to play soldier in the desert, Clinton who wanted to play peekaboo in the Oval Office, and Obama who was to dead set on railroading his agenda through, to consider trying to broker cooperation in the government.

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Civildiscordia wrote:Yes, Arkansas. Please don't mistake my geographical location for stereotypical behavior. I agree that any leader or public figure is going to have their admirable, and regrettable characteristics. In my lifetime unfortunately I don't think we've had a leader I would classify as "good". You read about Presidents who did so much for the country, then you have two variations of Bush who wanted to play soldier in the desert, Clinton who wanted to play peekaboo in the Oval Office, and Obama who was to dead set on railroading his agenda through, to consider trying to broker cooperation in the government.

Lol don't worry I'm not judging you. And to be fair, most people like Bill, and Obama has grown on me this term.

Matrixulated

Our Lord Hutton wrote:Lol don't worry I'm not judging you. And to be fair, most people like Bill, and Obama has grown on me this term.

I liked Clinton, until I realized that he had in my thoughts stolen from social security, in order to balance the budget and make himself look good. If there's one thing I believe, it's that we owe our elderly for all they've done, so messing with social security ruined my opinion of Mr Clinton. As for President Obama. I'm so torn by him. I don't think he's been bad, though he's wildly unpopular here. I just don't really feel he's been good. He was elected on promises of peace and change, yet he has really gave us neither. By the way, thank you for engaging in this conversation. I love learning the mindset of others.

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Rogue Lumberjacks wrote:Respectfully disagree about the most corrupt administration in US history. Two other Presidents had far more cabinet level officers indicted and convicted~U. S. Grant and R.M. Nixon. And some of H. Hoover's greatest accomplishments came before he even entered government service as a civil engineer in China during the the Boxer Rebellion...

Not likely...

And as an American, The Donald scares and depresses me..

Just call Trump "the big D". A Harry Potter reference along with an innuendo. Although, maybe he should be called "the big E" for Ego.

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Elfshire wrote:Just call Trump "the big D". A Harry Potter reference along with an innuendo. Although, maybe he should be called "the big E" for Ego.

Actually, I was quoting The Donald when I made the reference. He talks about his own self in the third person, 'nuff said.

And somebody earlier in the thread said Americans seemed crazy. Well, as a Californian, the part of America that the rest of the country thinks of as the craziest, I resemble that remark...

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5 minutes ago: The Jedi-Zombi Jezus altered its national flag - Jedi-Zombi Hugo Boss was taken out behind the Church and shot - The new flag was pulled out of some abandoned crypt...

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The Jedi-Zombi Jezus wrote:5 minutes ago: The Jedi-Zombi Jezus altered its national flag - Jedi-Zombi Hugo Boss was taken out behind the Church and shot - The new flag was pulled out of some abandoned crypt...

Better, now we're dealing with an undead Czarist Russia. Are we SURE this is an improvement?

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Rogue Lumberjacks wrote:Better, now we're dealing with an undead Czarist Russia. Are we SURE this is an improvement?

Quick someone get zombie Lenin on the phone!

https://youtu.be/uDXtVlG2VW0?t=21s

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Civildiscordia wrote:I liked Clinton, until I realized that he had in my thoughts stolen from social security, in order to balance the budget and make himself look good. If there's one thing I believe, it's that we owe our elderly for all they've done, so messing with social security ruined my opinion of Mr Clinton. As for President Obama. I'm so torn by him. I don't think he's been bad, though he's wildly unpopular here. I just don't really feel he's been good. He was elected on promises of peace and change, yet he has really gave us neither. By the way, thank you for engaging in this conversation. I love learning the mindset of others.

So who did/do you want for this election? Also, top 4 or 5 presidents and why?

Matrixulated

Rogue Lumberjacks wrote:Better, now we're dealing with an undead Czarist Russia. Are we SURE this is an improvement?

Actually, this is based upon the flag of the Greek Orthodox Church...

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Our Lord Hutton wrote:So who did/do you want for this election? Also, top 4 or 5 presidents and why?

This election cycle is tough for me, because I feel there it lacks a "right" answer. I'm very tentatively considering Bernie. His ideas aren't perfect, nor do I 100% agree with him, but he's the one candidate I believe would try to act for the betterment of the little man. Of course that being said, I'm a very fiscally responsible person, so funding his ideas worries me, but I lack a better alternative this cycle, and have decided maybe the state of the nation calls for a drastic change in how we do business.

I would have to do sonext serious fact checking to do a proper list of 5, being half asleep I'll go with the 3 off the top of my head that would make the list.

3- I'll take F.D.R at 3. Wasn't great, totally mishandled the treatment of Japanese Americans, but pulled the nation toget her in a difficult time.

2- George Washington: didn't want the job, which is a quality I wish more people shared, on the fact that his ego wasn't involved. He helped a fledgling nation get on its feet, and set precedent for those who would follow.

1 has to be Lincoln. I think without his leadership, the union as we know it does not exist. Even if it was just a tactical wartime decision, he began the path to freedom for the African American. Was very compassionate towards his fallen foes in the south. I think he has to be 1.

Matrixulated

The Jedi-Zombi Jezus wrote:Actually, this is based upon the flag of the Greek Orthodox Church...

The double headed eagle was originally from Byzantium and went up to the Rus via the Orthodox Church and Bulgaria...

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Rogue Lumberjacks is ranked 574th in Spiritus and 135,847th in the world for Largest Timber Woodchipping Industry, scoring -3 on the Tasmanian Pulp Environmental Export Index.

Any body who'd convert their trees to wood chips should be ashamed of themselves. We ship whole trees, logs and lumber~not particle board. Just say no to plywood!

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Rogue Lumberjacks wrote:Rogue Lumberjacks is ranked 574th in Spiritus and 135,847th in the world for Largest Timber Woodchipping Industry, scoring -3 on the Tasmanian Pulp Environmental Export Index.

Any body who'd convert their trees to wood chips should be ashamed of themselves. We ship whole trees, logs and lumber~not particle board. Just say no to plywood!

Uncivilised boor.

Rejecting the proper methods doesn't make your methods less obsolete.

Alekseandrea is ranked 58th in Spiritus and 24,596th in the world for Largest Timber Woodchipping Industry, scoring 3 on the Tasmanian Pulp Environmental Export Index.

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Alekseandrea wrote:Uncivilised boor.

Rejecting the proper methods doesn't make your methods less obsolete.

Alekseandrea is ranked 58th in Spiritus and 24,596th in the world for Largest Timber Woodchipping Industry, scoring 3 on the Tasmanian Pulp Environmental Export Index.

Keeping up the traditions is not obsolete! Miss-using your resources is far worse of a crime.

Timber!

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Rogue Lumberjacks wrote:Keeping up the traditions is not obsolete! Miss-using your resources is far worse of a crime.

Timber!

Tradition: a word used by people who want to sell inferior goods for a higher price.

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Alekseandrea wrote:Tradition: a word used by people who want to sell inferior goods for a higher price.

Selling pure wood instead of wood-pulp adulterated with chemicals such as formaldehyde, glues made from petroleum and other toxic compounds is inferior? Get your head on straight. Wood can last hundreds of years, can your manufactured tissue paper 'products' say that? I think not...

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Rogue Lumberjacks wrote:Selling pure wood instead of wood-pulp adulterated with chemicals such as formaldehyde, glues made from petroleum and other toxic compounds is inferior? Get your head on straight. Wood can last hundreds of years, can your manufactured tissue paper 'products' say that? I think not...

Ah yes, but can the common masses afford your pure? quality materials? I see your points, but I think you must also concede that there is a market for chip board. Otherwise you undermine your own argument with misplaced arrogance.

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Rogue Lumberjacks wrote:Actually, I was quoting The Donald when I made the reference. He talks about his own self in the third person, 'nuff said.

And somebody earlier in the thread said Americans seemed crazy. Well, as a Californian, the part of America that the rest of the country thinks of as the craziest, I resemble that remark...

Isn't Florida the most insane part of the US?

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Civildiscordia wrote:Ah yes, but can the common masses afford your pure? quality materials? I see your points, but I think you must also concede that there is a market for chip board. Otherwise you undermine your own argument with misplaced arrogance.

I came by my arrogance honestly. Just because there is a market for garbage does not mean I have to sell it, or tolerate it being sold within my boarders. You can also eat processed, chemical adulterated, processed 'food' or eat real food grown in the ground, your choice. I'll go with the real, thanks...

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Daziria wrote:Isn't Florida the most insane part of the US?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

The title "most insane part of the US" can be claimed by many different places for many different reasons. Florida is many things, insane isn't usually one I hear too often, though I'm sure it has its arguments.

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Daziria wrote:Isn't Florida the most insane part of the US?

We on the Left Coast like to think so, but we are known as California, the Land Of Fruits and Nuts...

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Civildiscordia wrote:-Snip-

Civildiscordia wrote:-snip-

I agree, actually. I was hoping for Jeb, something I never would've thought I'd be saying when he announced his candidacy, but now that he's gone, I'm just gonna hope Bernie works out, and that he has a good VP.

As for my favorite presidents, I would have to say

5- Jefferson. Should've been the disaster between him and Adams, but ended up being pretty great. He started to understand a lot of what Washington said by the time he held office, and also I mean he completely cut taxes and that didn't kill us all. This wasn't during his presidency, but he was a real Bada-- fighting the illegal Alien and Sedition acts.

4- Lincoln. He freed the slaves, let the nation through the civil war, and kept sanity through it all, which is good, but I'm putting him lower because he didn't really do much else, and he actually didn't want to free the slaves in the first place. It was more a military necessity than a moral thing. Also, if he hadn't been killed, while Reconstruction would've gone *better*, it still would've been a mess, and congress wouldn't just take the plans Lincoln had proposed. Andrew Johnson is considered one of the worst presidents so I'm sure a lot of that would've inevitably gone into Lincolns Second term. He was still pretty amazing though.

3- FDR. Saved us from the Great Depression and all. Did some real bad things regarding the Japanese that we all like to overlook, but at least he didn't drop the bombs. A great leader, united the nation, inspired the people.

2- Teddy. Real bog personality. Prolly the biggest in all of human history. really likable, real bold. Also, he did great things with the Nation Parks system, and did some astounding trust busting. Real fun guy.

1- Washington. Had pretty much the easiest job to mess up. Didn't mess up. A good, simple man that was just to casual. Didn't care for the power, resigned after two terms because he was tired, and set the precedent for all presidents.

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Our Lord Hutton wrote:I agree, actually. I was hoping for Jeb, something I never would've thought I'd be saying when he announced his candidacy, but now that he's gone, I'm just gonna hope Bernie works out, and that he has a good VP.

As for my favorite presidents, I would have to say

5- Jefferson. Should've been the disaster between him and Adams, but ended up being pretty great. He started to understand a lot of what Washington said by the time he held office, and also I mean he completely cut taxes and that didn't kill us all. This wasn't during his presidency, but he was a real Bada-- fighting the illegal Alien and Sedition acts.

4- Lincoln. He freed the slaves, let the nation through the civil war, and kept sanity through it all, which is good, but I'm putting him lower because he didn't really do much else, and he actually didn't want to free the slaves in the first place. It was more a military necessity than a moral thing. Also, if he hadn't been killed, while Reconstruction would've gone *better*, it still would've been a mess, and congress wouldn't just take the plans Lincoln had proposed. Andrew Johnson is considered one of the worst presidents so I'm sure a lot of that would've inevitably gone into Lincolns Second term. He was still pretty amazing though.

3- FDR. Saved us from the Great Depression and all. Did some real bad things regarding the Japanese that we all like to overlook, but at least he didn't drop the bombs. A great leader, united the nation, inspired the people.

2- Teddy. Real bog personality. Prolly the biggest in all of human history. really likable, real bold. Also, he did great things with the Nation Parks system, and did some astounding trust busting. Real fun guy.

1- Washington. Had pretty much the easiest job to mess up. Didn't mess up. A good, simple man that was just to casual. Didn't care for the power, resigned after two terms because he was tired, and set the precedent for all presidents.

Maybe it's because history and memory only capture the good, and let the bad fade away, but today's leaders just don't seem to amount to some of the great leaders who came before. Well it's not just the leaders. You read about all the struggles and sacrifices people went through to make the country the success it has been, and then you look at our current generation, and it's somewhat disheartening.

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Rogue Lumberjacks wrote:I came by my arrogance honestly. Just because there is a market for garbage does not mean I have to sell it, or tolerate it being sold within my boarders. You can also eat processed, chemical adulterated, processed 'food' or eat real food grown in the ground, your choice. I'll go with the real, thanks...

Such a stubborn lot you lumberjacks seem to be. Heads as hard as those logs you're so fond of! Elitist!

Power to the pulp!!!!!

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A question for all of you, especially those Lincoln supporters: Lincoln almost undeniably violated the Constitution, some historians think that if he hadn't been assassinated he would've been impeached. What do you all think? Would Lincoln's reputation as a President be a lot worse if he wasn't assassinated?

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Asmovia wrote:A question for all of you, especially those Lincoln supporters: Lincoln almost undeniably violated the Constitution, some historians think that if he hadn't been assassinated he would've been impeached. What do you all think? Would Lincoln's reputation as a President be a lot worse if he wasn't assassinated?

Speaking from the perspective of a southerner, the Lincoln assassination was the worst thing to happen to the south. He wanted reconstruction to be more reconciliation based, and didn't believe in the harsh punitive measures his predecessor would enact. That being said, if you look objectively I'm sure I case can be made that he overstepped his bounds. Even so, I believe he acted in the interest of the greater good, and would still be fondly remembered. Interestingly the same question Applies to JFK. With rumors of scandal on the horizon, had he not met an untimely end in Dallas, would we remember him as well?

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Civildiscordia wrote:Such a stubborn lot you lumberjacks seem to be. Heads as hard as those logs you're so fond of! Elitist!

Power to the pulp!!!!!

We're proud of our stubbornness, too. That's what makes NationStates the great game that it is.

Timber!!!

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Rogue Lumberjacks wrote:We're proud of our stubbornness, too. That's what makes NationStates the great game that it is.

Timber!!!

For every piece of timber you sell,

I sell my pulp a 9001 times.

Resistance is futile.

Pulp has already won.

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Rogue Lumberjacks wrote:We're proud of our stubbornness, too. That's what makes NationStates the great game that it is.

Timber!!!

Aye, diversity among our nations, and a liberal dose of good natured smack talk does make for a wonderful gaming experience.

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Rogue Lumberjacks wrote:Rogue Lumberjacks is ranked 574th in Spiritus and 135,847th in the world for Largest Timber Woodchipping Industry, scoring -3 on the Tasmanian Pulp Environmental Export Index.

Any body who'd convert their trees to wood chips should be ashamed of themselves. We ship whole trees, logs and lumber~not particle board. Just say no to plywood!

Hmmm . . . plenty to think about.

Still, next time I get wood I'll be thinking of you.

M.

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trees stay in the ground or are made into paper

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Rogue Lumberjacks wrote:Actually, I was quoting The Donald when I made the reference. He talks about his own self in the third person, 'nuff said.

And somebody earlier in the thread said Americans seemed crazy. Well, as a Californian, the part of America that the rest of the country thinks of as the craziest, I resemble that remark...

Nah, I think Texans are the craziest. I don't know who the Donald is though (unless you mean the Big Trump himself).

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Our Lord Hutton wrote:

3- FDR. Saved us from the Great Depression and all. Did some real bad things regarding the Japanese that we all like to overlook, but at least he didn't drop the bombs.

He didn't drop the bombs only because he died...

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Asmovia wrote:He didn't drop the bombs only because he died...

The bombs were the best option when Operation Downfall was the only other option on the table.

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The Blood Ravens wrote:The bombs were the best option when Operation Downfall was the only other option on the table.

Being somewhat of a fan of Japanese culture, I feel sad that it came to use of nuclear arms. However, they were a hardened and determined foe, who promised to fight to the bitter end. The bombs became the most expedient means of securing peace without loss of American lives. I won't call their use absolutely necessary, but I will say their use was tactically logical.

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I'm a new civilization. I want my nation to consist of a strong military and striving economy. Any tips?

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Elfshire wrote:Nah, I think Texans are the craziest. I don't know who the Donald is though (unless you mean the Big Trump himself).

Lol any state in the bible belt gets at least some consideration for the title of craziest state. Nothing to encourage progress and development like outdated backwards thinking.

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Civildiscordia wrote:Being somewhat of a fan of Japanese culture, I feel sad that it came to use of nuclear arms. However, they were a hardened and determined foe, who promised to fight to the bitter end. The bombs became the most expedient means of securing peace without loss of American lives. I won't call their use absolutely necessary, but I will say their use was tactically logical.

Operation downfall had projected casualties in the millions, and involved 6,000,000 allied troops engaging in an amphibious landing that would make the D-Day landings look like a walk in the park. In fact one provision of it involved using Atomic bombs to soften up the beaches prior to the landing of allied troops.

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Gleipnir Kingdom wrote:I'm a new civilization. I want my nation to consist of a strong military and striving economy. Any tips?

I'm here only since last month but I'd say : more taxes! And refuse anything that seem to ask for money.

And I think military issues are random as all others ? (are they all random?)

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Catgirls wrote:I'm here only since last month but I'd say : more taxes! And refuse anything that seem to ask for money.

And I think military issues are random as all others ? (are they all random?)

How do I increase taxes?

Gleipnir Kingdom wrote:How do I increase taxes?

Its all done through issues.

The Blood Ravens wrote:Its all done through issues.

Thanks.

I also have a question with the issues? Will some issues brush upon military topics, which will allow you to increase your military power?

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Gleipnir Kingdom wrote:Thanks.

I also have a question with the issues? Will some issues brush upon military topics, which will allow you to increase your military power?

Yes.

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Elfshire wrote:Nah, I think Texans are the craziest. I don't know who the Donald is though (unless you mean the Big Trump himself).

That's the bunnie. Steven Colbert said it earlier this week: The Donald is like Godzilla, but with less foreign policy experience...

Gleipnir Kingdom wrote:How do I increase taxes?

Some the options in each issue will say "It'll cost us a little more in taxes...", if you want your people to pay more taxes, that will raise them the most...

Gleipnir Kingdom wrote:Thanks.

I also have a question with the issues? Will some issues brush upon military topics, which will allow you to increase your military power?

Each military issue will effect your military power, avoid the options which say, in effect "Who needs more weapons/soldiers..."

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Alekseandrea wrote:For every piece of timber you sell,

I sell my pulp a 9001 times.

Resistance is futile.

Pulp has already won.

Ah, yes, until all your pulp reverts to it's natural state~sawdust. In five years, everything you build with that junk will fail, and my wood will still be there, serene and intact. We'll just outlive you...

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Civildiscordia wrote:Lol any state in the bible belt gets at least some consideration for the title of craziest state. Nothing to encourage progress and development like outdated backwards thinking.

Rather true. Although, as I'm both Jewish and a liberal, I guess I don't have much say on Bible-thumping conservative Republicans.

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Elfshire wrote:Rather true. Although, as I'm both Jewish and a liberal, I guess I don't have much say on Bible-thumping conservative Republicans.

I'm a cynical moderate, who has to live surrounded by their bible thumping idiocy. I whole heartedly believe we should each be free to carve our own path through life, and believe as we will. Unfortunately many here believe that if your views aren't like theirs, you're inferior.

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Rogue Lumberjacks wrote:Ah, yes, until all your pulp reverts to it's natural state~sawdust. In five years, everything you build with that junk will fail, and my wood will still be there, serene and intact. We'll just outlive you...

Said the lumberjack to the guy with a nuclear arsenal.

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Alekseandrea wrote:Said the lumberjack to the guy with a nuclear arsenal.

Lust because we're lumberjacks doesn't mean we don't have nukes. [U]M[/U]utally Assured Destruction my friend...

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Rogue Lumberjacks wrote:Lust because we're lumberjacks doesn't mean we don't have nukes. [U]M[/U]utally Assured Destruction my friend...

My capital is underground.

Just saying.

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Alekseandrea wrote:My capital is underground. Just saying.

Oh cool ! That must be hard though, I hope your people like Light Therapy :3

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Bo-go! Bo-go! Bo-go!

*realizes chant isnt being picked up*

*dismayed look*

Thats MY shopping cart! Get away from it!

Ebenezer! Ebenezer!

Get me my robe, Im going to relax with the immediacy of an expiration date in the back of a refridgerator. All that, plus much much more. And finally, oh look! A can. DIBS!

*singing*

5 cents, youre looking an me-ha

5 cents youre so love-ly-ha

*drinks dregs of can*

*dust falls into mouth*

Not bad but ive had better. Beware the angry penguins! Theyll swindle you all with their fancy usury! Save the children, I mean the trees, oh shooey I forgot what to save.. The date? Yes, I think I was supposed to save the date. Now then, on to more serious ramblings.. You, what are you looking at? Am I a beautiful man? Do you study me like a rhinocerous or something? Who sent you??! Who!!?

5 cents, youre all mine yeah

5 cents is almost a dime yeah

5 cents, plus interest, no

5 cents, 5 cents fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiivvvvvvvvvvvvvve

That is all.

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How do I get a capital city? Is it eventually an issue or is it elsewhere?

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Mind Playing Tricks wrote:How do I get a capital city? Is it eventually an issue or is it elsewhere?

You'll receive an issue once you reach a certain population. (I believe it's 500 million)

Matrixulated

It's 250 million for a capital city; 500 is a custom title, 750 is a leader, and 1 billion is a religion.

Also, welcome to Spiritus, [nation=short]Gleipnir Kingdom[/nation]! :D

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Alekseandrea wrote:My capital is underground.

Just saying.

You've never heard of burrowing warheads? Surprise, surprise, surprise...

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Rogue Lumberjacks wrote:You've never heard of burrowing warheads? Surprise, surprise, surprise...

I have forgotten to mention my doomsday device.

Some Cobalt bombs linked to some sensors.

If anyone dares to nuke my glorious nation, they will be blown away. Methaphorically speaking, of course.

Radiation poisoning doesn't blow people away.

If you do attempt a nuclear assault,

I suggest you play "We'll Meet Again" by Vera Lynn on whatever you primitives use to enjoy music while the detonations happen.

In my opinion this song would be an appropriate ending of the civilised ages.

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Alekseandrea wrote:I have forgotten to mention my doomsday device.

Some Cobalt bombs linked to some sensors.

If anyone dares to nuke my glorious nation, they will be blown away. Methaphorically speaking, of course.

Radiation poisoning doesn't blow people away.

If you do attempt a nuclear assault,

I suggest you play "We'll Meet Again" by Vera Lynn on whatever you primitives use to enjoy music while the detonations happen.

In my opinion this song would be an appropriate ending of the civilised ages.

Doomsday this, nuclear that.....sheesh! You glories leaders need to lighten up a little. I'm all for a little blood sport from time to time, but the only apocalypse I want any part of, includes zombies or death by snu snu. I'm sure the rest of the world would thank you for not giving us an atomic tan...

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Civildiscordia wrote:Doomsday this, nuclear that.....sheesh! You glories leaders need to lighten up a little. I'm all for a little blood sport from time to time, but the only apocalypse I want any part of, includes zombies or death by snu snu. I'm sure the rest of the world would thank you for not giving us an atomic tan...

Weren't me what started with the nukes, twas the man sitting at the particle-board table in his underground bunker. Even termites wouldn't touch that stuff...

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Rogue Lumberjacks wrote:Weren't me what started with the nukes, twas the man sitting at the particle-board table in his underground bunker. Even termites wouldn't touch that stuff...

Bah, never put stock in the ramblings of a theocracy. Like arguing with a special needs child really. Any idiot can threaten to start a conflict. Rare is the man big enough to disarm the situation. Be that man Mr Bunyan!

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Civildiscordia wrote:I'm a cynical moderate, who has to live surrounded by their bible thumping idiocy. I whole heartedly believe we should each be free to carve our own path through life, and believe as we will. Unfortunately many here believe that if your views aren't like theirs, you're inferior.

Agreed, good sir. If they want their campaigns to be better, they should replace Jehovah's Witnesses with God's Girl Scouts. Their tagline could be "He died for our sins--and we baked with cinnamon!"

I'm a terrible person.

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Civildiscordia wrote:Bah, never put stock in the ramblings of a theocracy. Like arguing with a special needs child really. Any idiot can threaten to start a conflict. Rare is the man big enough to disarm the situation. Be that man Mr Bunyan!

Seconds ago: Alekseandrea changed its national nation type to "Dominion".

Now they're the ramblings of a dominion!

Grovel in front of my feet to placate my vast ego,

or be crushed by my glorious might!

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Civildiscordia wrote:Bah, never put stock in the ramblings of a theocracy. Like arguing with a special needs child really. Any idiot can threaten to start a conflict. Rare is the man big enough to disarm the situation. Be that man Mr Bunyan!

With any other type of threat, we would have ignored it, but those fall in the 'special' category. After all, close only counts in horseshoes, hand-grenades and thermonuclear devices...

Alekseandrea wrote:Seconds ago: Alekseandrea changed its national nation type to "Dominion".

Now they're the ramblings of a dominion!

Grovel in front of my feet to placate my vast ego,

or be crushed by my glorious might!

He thinks he is The Donald, by gum...

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Alekseandrea wrote:Seconds ago: Alekseandrea changed its national nation type to "Dominion".

Now they're the ramblings of a dominion!

Grovel in front of my feet to placate my vast ego,

or be crushed by my glorious might!

Pfft. You Dominion's always think you're all that. I, the Grand Dominion, will crush you! :D :P

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Red Dusk wrote:Pfft. You Dominion's always think you're all that. I, the Grand Dominion, will crush you! :D :P

Clearly the Dominion from Starcraft is superior.

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Red Dusk wrote:Pfft. You Dominion's always think you're all that. I, the Grand Dominion, will crush you! :D :P

Another ego war? Hot d*mn, let me get the popcorn popping...

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