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How long does it take to get 250 million citizens?

Matrixulated

Cetaceon wrote:How long does it take to get 250 million citizens?

A while.You can always check how long it took for other nations to get that amount of people, it should take the same amount of time for your nation. Just look at the population history.

Matrixulated, Cetaceon

Cetaceon wrote:How long does it take to get 250 million citizens?

Around a month and a half. You get about 2.3 billion per year.

Matrixulated, Alekseandrea, Cetaceon

Thanks!

Matrixulated, Alekseandrea

Aaraksburg wrote:Says the one who types in ALL CAPS.

BIG WORDS ARE NOT WORDS IN ALL CAPS, BUT SOPHISTICATED WORDS THAT ARE HARD TO COMPREHEND FOR THE UNEDUCATED, SUCH AS SYCOPHANT, HYPOGEAL, AND COLEOPTERON.

Matrixulated, Alekseandrea, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud

Parrona wrote:I finally fixed that "No Computers" policy!

Huzzah!

Yes, I thought it strange that a nation such as yours would ban computers and the internet - I thought you were more technologically advanced than that! - However, it would fit in with your feudalistic society...

Matrixulated, Great British Federation, Eurasian Alliance, Eastazia, Animal Farmerica, Greater Brazilistan, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud, Parrona, Auztraalia

The Grumpy Grandpa wrote:BIG WORDS ARE NOT WORDS IN ALL CAPS, BUT SOPHISTICATED WORDS THAT ARE HARD TO COMPREHEND FOR THE UNEDUCATED, SUCH AS SYCOPHANT, HYPOGEAL, AND COLEOPTERON.

A brown-nosed, crawling, flattering, truckler and groveller, that dwelleth low down under the earth (subterraneously), like a wingéd beetle?!?!

Also: it's spelt coleopteran

Matrixulated, Great British Federation, Eurasian Alliance, Alekseandrea, Eastazia, Animal Farmerica, Greater Brazilistan, Auztraalia

Parrona wrote:I finally fixed that "No Computers" policy!

Huzzah!

The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud

Matrixulated, Alekseandrea, Parrona

The Jedi-Zombi Jezus wrote:A brown-nosed, crawling, flattering, truckler and groveller, that dwelleth low down under the earth (subterraneously), like a wingéd beetle?!?!

Also: it's spelt coleopteran

COLEOPTERON SEEMS TO BE A SPELLING THAT EXISTS AS WELL.

I DON'T KNOW, I LOST MY READING GLASSES ROUGHLY TWENTY YEARS AGO.

Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, Alekseandrea

Post self-deleted by Lemongrab.

Lemongrab wrote:There's a new poll in Warzone Airspace! https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=105398

Which video game would you rather be trapped in? You only have one life, and you're freed from the video game once you win.

Who the hell wants to get locked up on Star Fox Adventures?

...Furries notwithstanding.

Matrixulated, Alekseandrea, Statens, The Parron Republic, Lemongrab

Texas Department of State Dispatch To Our Friends and Allies

It is our great pleasure to announce that Texas has entered into an Official Embassy with The Great Region of International Democratic Union. This alliance comes after years of friendship between The Great Nation of The Free Bears of Bears Armed and the citizens of Texas. There have been numerous acts of kindness that many never even knew that happened such as the time when an Issue caused us to lose our WA membership and Mr. Bear greatly assisted in our getting our endorsements back so that we did not lose the Delegacy. The IDU is a firm believer in the World Assembly as are we. Like our friends in Antarctic Oasis, they have made many contributions to the mold The World into the place it is today, mostly for the better (joke, IDU, just a joke). Through things like this, we discovered that both regions had much in common such as anti-invader policies, respect for nations and their sovereignty and other fine sentiments. This Alliance would not be possible without the hard work put forth by Mr. Bear, the Chairbear of Bears Armed, and the Texas Representative Council.

This alliance not only enhances our chances of mutual survival but to also affirms to our regions that every effort is being made to ensure that the peace and stability our nations enjoy is maintained. We also are making it known that our regions are not alone should anything threaten the tenants our regions hold dear or its citizens.

Cheers to the International Democratic Union! Cheers to Texas!

Big Tex

CEO/Leader, The Incorporated NationStates of Newtexas

WA Delegate and Founder, Texas

Tim-Opolis, Matrixulated, Alekseandrea, Statens

Post self-deleted by Lemongrab.

Lemongrab wrote:There's a new poll in Warzone Airspace! https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=105398

Which video game would you rather be trapped in? You only have one life, and you're freed from the video game once you win.

Ummm where are Super Smash Bros and Mario Kart at?

Matrixulated, Alekseandrea

Post self-deleted by Lemongrab.

The Jedi-Zombi Jezus wrote:Yes, I thought it strange that a nation such as yours would ban computers and the internet - I thought you were more technologically advanced than that! - However, it would fit in with your feudalistic society...

Feudalisti... I thought we abolished that before planetary unification!

Matrixulated, Alekseandrea

Lemongrab wrote:There's a new poll in Warzone Airspace! https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=105398

Which video game would you rather be trapped in? You only have one life, and you're freed from the video game once you win.

... do I have to come out after?

Matrixulated, Statens, Lemongrab, Aaraksburg

Parrona wrote:Feudalisti... I thought we abolished that before planetary unification!

Hey! Mister colonial overlord! Your petty fights crashed my economy! Stop it, you idiot!

Matrixulated

The Grumpy Grandpa wrote:COLEOPTERON SEEMS TO BE A SPELLING THAT EXISTS AS WELL.

I DON'T KNOW, I LOST MY READING GLASSES ROUGHLY TWENTY YEARS AGO.

Are you sure that disyllabic words aren't too big?

Monosyllabic words are 50% shorter.

How can the average overachieving ignoramus understand your witty rebuttal if you use words that are twice as long as would suffice?

Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, The Grumpy Grandpa, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud, The Parron Republic

Alekseandrea wrote:Are you sure that disyllabic words aren't too big?

Monosyllabic words are 50% shorter.

How can the average overachieving ignoramus understand your witty rebuttal if you use words that are twice as long as would suffice?

GET OFF LAWN.

THAT WORK?

Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, Alekseandrea, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud, Gaelic Waffle, Parrona, The Parron Republic, Aaraksburg

[spoiler= Updates (shameless fillers) ]

Snakkra bans all flights from outside Snakkra to enter.

(that's weird)

Salmonan faces internal crisis over the status of Lord Steward.

(held by a Palivo, due to a military alliance and the UNE's massacre of Ocean's Deep, yes, feel bad, humans)

The United Empire of Snakkra declares war on the United Prefectures of Snakkra.

(The UPS is still the de jure and de facto government)

The Socialist Republic of Parrona declares war on United Parronia.

(*string of insults*)

Vultur goes silent on all channels.

(hmm, that's, unsettling)

[/spoiler]

Also, because of the SRP, you guys get to look at leftist propaganda.

(right wing propaganda to come when the Confederate States of...um, s**t.) ;)

[spoiler= (leftist) Propaganda ]

Do you that, fellow comrades?

It is the whispering of the Ministers of Warfare, it is the plots of the upper classes, with their conspiracy to put down the masses, the conspiracy spreads across Parronia!

Right now, they are mobilising, against our glorious Socialist Republic!

So, fellow comrades, citizens, workers, unite!, arm yourselves! And fight against the oppressors! For our existence is threatened! Charge, and banish the fascists from the people's lands!

After the end of the old regime, our glorious socialist Republic can rise up, along with a new order! The people's order!

Rise up! Workers of Parronia, and claim your rights!

[/spoiler]

Meta response: Bunch of idealists...they never stop dreaming, do they?

Shameless edit(s):

I. I just realised, shameless fillers, it actually rhymes.

Also, this took me long enough to finish, to be exact, an entire f**king weekend, it's like as if I had nothing better to do.

The Grumpy Grandpa wrote:GET OFF LAWN.

THAT WORK?

It would not, as my friend once said (to me).

No, I do not understand what "ni hao" that means.

Could you speak in English?

FAQ:

Of course I said yes.

Matrixulated, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud

Alekseandrea wrote:Are you sure that disyllabic words aren't too big?

Monosyllabic words are 50% shorter.

How can the average overachieving ignoramus understand your witty rebuttal if you use words that are twice as long as would suffice?

[I]Answer: Half as efficiently and in twice the time.

M.

Legendus, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, Alekseandrea, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud, Parrona, The Parron Republic, Aaraksburg

The Parron Republic wrote:Parrona still owes us our jobs! --Arackian citizen

OOC: Damn my keyboard, it's like as if my nemesis from a past life reincarnated into this keyboard.

Matrixulated, Alekseandrea

Aaraksburg wrote:OOC: Damn my keyboard, it's like as if my nemesis from a past life reincarnated into this keyboard.

It's rebelling against it's master.

Do the right thing.

Make the world a place where a keyboard keys are being stamped on by a boot. Forever.

Make it's resistance meaningless by buying a new, obedient keyboard.

Show those keyboards that there is no escaping the system.

Resistance is futile.

Obey your fickle master or be crushed.

Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud, Parrona, The Parron Republic, Aaraksburg

Lemongrab wrote:There's a new poll in Warzone Airspace! https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=105398

Which video game would you rather be trapped in? You only have one life, and you're freed from the video game once you win.

If the game rules applied, I would easily do Mario sunshine, as you can just lie down and sleep forever on a tropical beach.

Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, Parrona, Statens, The Parron Republic, Lemongrab

Itrosomia wrote:If the game rules applied, I would easily do Mario sunshine, as you can just lie down and sleep forever on a tropical beach.

Truth.

Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, Parrona

Lemongrab wrote:Do a barrel roll.

You're thinking 64 or Zero then. Adventures is the one Nintendo hijacked.

Matrixulated

Parrona wrote:I finally fixed that "No Computers" policy!

Huzzah!

The House of Parrona is now using the rallying cry of the noble House of Spud!

Either that, or it's intellectual theft and heresy!

Huzzah!

Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, Alekseandrea, Parrona, The Parron Republic, Aaraksburg

The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud wrote:The House of Parrona is now using the rallying cry of the noble House of Spud!

Either that, or it's intellectual theft and heresy!

Huzzah!

I would have like to say that we are taking it for ourselves and that we are glassing Spiritus, but, we Parronans aren't that bad.

Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, Alekseandrea, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud, The Parron Republic

Parrona wrote:I would have like to say that we are taking it for ourselves and that we are glassing Spiritus, but, we Parronans aren't that bad.
Glass Spiritus?

This isn't a bar fight and you're not Scottish!

I would expect more from House Parrona!

Huzzah!

Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, Alekseandrea, Parrona, The Parron Republic, Aaraksburg

Alright everyone, today is a crucial day in Arackian history... Or, I got the Got Democracy issue...

The only difference is that, we already have protests.

[spoiler]

As waves of pro-democracy protests continue in Spiritus, with several actually toppling long-standing regimes, your advisers fear the protests could soon hit Aaraksburg. An emergency conference has been called to discuss the looming crisis.

The Debate

“We must crack down hard on all rebels who dare to betray our beloved nation!” roars Ronald Gaudí, head of the Aaraksburg State Police. “We must use whatever force is necessary to prevent these protests from happening here. Specifically that means roving death squads and informants monitoring all anti-government activity to shut them down before they revolt. So long as Leader is our ruler, treason shall never go unpunished!”

Accept

“Atrocities would only give these protesters more motivation to rebel,” quickly counters Adama Mendeleev, your Propaganda Minister, while reading through socioeconomic figures. “Some of their complaints are worth looking into, if you don’t want the wolves at the gates. Establish large-scale public works projects to lower unemployment and things will be back to normal in no time. We could hire people to build schools and health clinics and repair utilities. These protesters say they want a revolution, but I think you’ll find they’ll settle for a lot less.”

Accept

“The people are angry and fed up with the system. If you want to stop the protests, you must give them exactly what they want!” dramatically declares a protester who somehow smuggled herself in through a food cart. “The time for real democracy is now!” Between screams of pain, as your bodyguards tackle her to the floor, she finishes, “By any means necessary!”

Accept

After disposing of the trespasser, the meeting resumes. “We can’t allow TRUE democracy. Do you really think that the people would pick a suitable replacement for you?” says Dixie Stewart, your most loyal bodyguard, while sharpening a halberd. “For all we know they’ll elect some anarchist with an ax to grind! How about we let them vote, but we only permit reputable Party members to run? That gives the people the right to decide small matters, while making sure that critical issues are left to our Party veterans.”

Accept

“I have an unorthodox way to solve this once and for all,” suggests your questionably sane Interior Minister, playing with a chemistry set despite the gravity of the meeting. “Instead of all that ‘populism,’ why don’t we infuse the water supply with, I dunno, sedatives or something?” He grins maniacally. “Imagine how easy it would be to control the citizenry! Put the right drugs in the water, and I’m sure you’d have zero dissidents. Think about it: you could abolish all those superfluous legislatures and make yourself Aaraksburg’s absolute ruler.”

Accept”

Dismiss This Issue

[/spoiler]

Default option is 2.

Before I'll pick the other options, I'll need official support sent by TG.

Option 1 needs 10 supporting nations. (because Parrona)

Option 3 needs 3 supporting nations.

Option 4 needs 4 supporting nations.

(I hope I could keep the tally)

(screw Aracksburg up, then we could break from Parronia)

Matrixulated

Parrona wrote:I finally fixed that "No Computers" policy!

Huzzah!

"No Computers" policy?

What backwater, stunted, hillbilly crack in the cosmos harbors a rube with such a rule?

Emperor Snakkra would roll in his grave if he knew how far his progeny have fallen.

M.

The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, Alekseandrea, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud, The Parron Republic, Aaraksburg

Matrixulated wrote:"No Computers" policy?

What backwater, stunted, hillbilly crack in the cosmos harbors a rube with such a rule?

Emperor Snakkra would roll in his grave if he knew how far his progeny have fallen.

M.

Progeny? That reptile? Not a chance!

These archives are flawed!

The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud wrote:Glass Spiritus?

This isn't a bar fight and you're not Scottish!

I would expect more from House Parrona!

Huzzah!

Oh, you will be surprised at how low Houses Palivo and Parravon could go, despite being the "High Parronan houses."

Fun fact: House Carrion is atheist.

[spoiler= Ramble ramble ]

There was once, when Parrona had the biggest military over here, when the UNE was relatively small, House Palivo had several MPs assassinated and then claim that the newly formed Eakiran Federation intends to wipe us off from the maps... [/spoiler]

Matrixulated, Alekseandrea, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud

174 posts, this puppet is dusty.

3 refugee fleets arrive from Vultur, but, just what are they fleeing from?

Matrixulated, Aaraksburg

I'm baaaaack! I was gone for a few days. Anyone miss me? :P

Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, Alekseandrea, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud, Parrona, Statens, Itrosomia

[spoiler= AAR on the Assault on New Dusailis ]

Belligerents:

Kingdom of Parrona

-------------------------------------

Eakiran Federation.

Armies:

Royal Fleet of Dusailis:

1 Dreadnought (craft world)

100 Battleships

100 Cruisers

300 Destroyers

1,200 Frigates

6,000 Corvettes

36,000 smaller crafts

Total: 7,651 ships + 36,000 smaller crafts

-------------------------------------

New Dusailis Fleet:

1 dreadnoughts

100 battleships

100 cruisers

100 destroyers

100,000 frigates

100,000 corvettes

500,000 smaller crafts

Total: 200,301 ships + 500,000 smaller crafts

Result:

Although the Parronan fleet was outnumbered, they had the advantage of superior discipline and weapons, by outgunning and maneuvering ships to make full use of its strengths and minimise the exploitation of its weaknesses, the Parronans have turned the tide of battle to ensure a decisive victory at New Dusailis, this victory will follow with the heavy bombing of New Dusailis, and the Parronan push into the breadbasket of Eakira.

Casualties:

[sub]To the nearest hundred[/sub]

Royal Fleet of Dusailis: (exact)

0 Dreadnought (craft world)

0 Battleships

0 Cruisers

0 Destroyers

5 Frigates

26 Corvettes

~15,000 smaller crafts

Total: 31 ships + ~15,000 smaller crafts

-------------------------------------

New Dusailis Fleet:

(all remaining ships routed)

0 dreadnoughts

67 battleships

96 cruisers

40 destroyers

56,394 frigates

100,000 corvettes

~499,000 smaller crafts

Total: <data corrupted>

Leaders

Kingdom of Parrona:

Jason of House Palivo

Leoun of House Parravon

Bran of House Skyre

Javert of House Pyre

Magnus "the Midnight Sun" of House Carrion

Eakiran Federation:

New Dusailis Fleet AI core (routed)

[/spoiler]

Matrixulated, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud

The Salaxalans wrote:I'm baaaaack! I was gone for a few days. Anyone miss me? :P

Who're you again?

:P

Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, Alekseandrea, Statens, The Parron Republic

Dusk Station wrote:Who're you again?

:P

D:

Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, Alekseandrea, Dusk Station, The Parron Republic

Dusk Station wrote:Who're you again?

:P

You should ask the delegate.

Maybe he knows.

The Salaxalans, Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, Dusk Station, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud, Aaraksburg

The Salaxalans wrote:I'm baaaaack! I was gone for a few days. Anyone miss me? :P

You were gone?

The Salaxalans, Matrixulated, Great British Federation, Eurasian Alliance, Alekseandrea, Eastazia, Animal Farmerica, Greater Brazilistan, Auztraalia, Aaraksburg

Regional Happenings:-

4 days ago: Macaroni ceased to exist in Spiritus.

- I guess it had pasta it's sell by date!

...and I guess we'll just have more pasta🍅🍆🍄🌶 sauce, minced meat, and cheese🧀 to put on our potatoes🥔!!

Also: The poll has been running for 4 days, and has a little over 2 days to go, I would like to ask, if you haven't already partaken in your hard-won civil liberty of universal suffrage, to use that liberty now or in the near future...

The Salaxalans, Matrixulated, Great British Federation, Eurasian Alliance, Alekseandrea, Eastazia, Animal Farmerica, Greater Brazilistan, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud, Auztraalia, Cetaceon, Aaraksburg

I'd like to make the case why bioweaponry is worse than nuclear weaponry/power (I am taking the poll a bit too seriously, sorry about that...)

First of all, I'd like to insist that nuclear weaponry is awful, however we are talking about nuclear weaponry and nuclear power in this poll. Nuclear power is extremely useful at the moment, as it is a non carbon emitting power source, and thus acts as a stepping stone between fossil fuels and the adoption of renewables. Additionally, nuclear weaponry is mutually assured destruction, and thus in a way the fact that the superpowers have extensive nuclear arsenals means that none dare to go to war against each other, and thus we live in an age of relative peace.

Meanwhile, though nuclear and bioweaponry both cause extensive damage to civilians (for example the increased risk of miscarriages) as well as to the surrounding ecosystems, nuclear weaponry largely involves instantaneous death, whereas bioweaponry involves delayed death, and thus victims of bioweaponry attacks feel physical pain for a considerable amount of time before their deaths.

Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, Alekseandrea, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud, The Parron Republic

Both are horrific. The only reason I picked bioweaponry is that nuclear power at least can be used for power generation and, if I'm not mistaken, there's a variation of nuclear power that can work fairly well without massive risks. Bioweaponry is just... bioweaponry. It's made to kill.

Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus

Quaterna wrote:I'd like to make the case why bioweaponry is worse than nuclear weaponry/power (I am taking the poll a bit too seriously, sorry about that...)

First of all, I'd like to insist that nuclear weaponry is awful, however we are talking about nuclear weaponry and nuclear power in this poll. Nuclear power is extremely useful at the moment, as it is a non carbon emitting power source, and thus acts as a stepping stone between fossil fuels and the adoption of renewables. Additionally, nuclear weaponry is mutually assured destruction, and thus in a way the fact that the superpowers have extensive nuclear arsenals means that none dare to go to war against each other, and thus we live in an age of relative peace.

Meanwhile, though nuclear and bioweaponry both cause extensive damage to civilians (for example the increased risk of miscarriages) as well as to the surrounding ecosystems, nuclear weaponry largely involves instantaneous death, whereas bioweaponry involves delayed death, and thus victims of bioweaponry attacks feel physical pain for a considerable amount of time before their deaths.

Bioweaponry is not that dangerous.

Firstly, nobody uses it because it becauses diseases are contagious, allowing for more friendly fire and collateral damage than with the classical options.

Secondly, bioweapons weapons have to balance several conflicting needs.

[list]

[*]propagation speed of the infection.(Too much and you'll have trouble containing it.)

[*]lethality of the disease.(Too lethal and no one will get infected.)

[*]mutating speed of the disease (rendering it (most likely)harmless)

[*]Time spend on the development of the disease

[*]resistance against cures (Will probably hinder the diseases propagation speed)

[/list]

Some of those needs are mutually exclusive. There is no super-disease. It will always have several tradeoffs. It will be rather underwhelming in the end.

Honestly, they're dangerous in the way that nukes are dangerous. Only a lot less dangerous.

What is the point of fearing something that nobody will ever use?

The way I see it, it would be simpler, more efficient, more humane and safer to use chemical weaponry.

Chemical weaponry simply does the same job, but better.

Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud, Quaterna

Kita-Hinode wrote:Both are horrific. The only reason I picked bioweaponry is that nuclear power at least can be used for power generation and, if I'm not mistaken, there's a variation of nuclear power that can work fairly well without massive risks. Bioweaponry is just... bioweaponry. It's made to kill.

What it's made for doesn't really matter.

Bads and toasters are made for bathing and toasting respectively.

Combine the 2 with each other...

Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud

Why do so little people fear the consequences of pseudoscience?

When it's "fake news" they all lose their ****, but when people die because of misinformation nobody cares.

Why are people more concerned with problems that will solve themselves than a real persistent issue that directly causes people to die?

Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, Parrona, The Parron Republic, Quaterna, Aaraksburg

Alekseandrea wrote:Why do so little people fear the consequences of pseudoscience?

When it's "fake news" they all lose their ****, but when people die because of misinformation nobody cares.

Why are people more concerned with problems that will solve themselves than a real persistent issue that directly causes people to die?

You know what’s even sadder? The only way for pseudoscience to be exposed is by conducting the same experiment again, to see if the results are reproducible but, the community doesn’t really care about these, so the scientists are payed less when they do these vital studies. The government needs to provide equal pay for scientists, no matter the test.

Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, Alekseandrea, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud, The Parron Republic, Quaterna

Alekseandrea wrote:What it's made for doesn't really matter.

Bads and toasters are made for bathing and toasting respectively.

Combine the 2 with each other...

While that's true, the option for Nuclear Weaponry also has Nuclear Power so... yeah, have to take that under consideration.

Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, Alekseandrea, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud, Quaterna

Alekseandrea wrote:Bioweaponry is not that dangerous.

Firstly, nobody uses it because it becauses diseases are contagious, allowing for more friendly fire and collateral damage than with the classical options.

Secondly, bioweapons weapons have to balance several conflicting needs.

[list]

[*]propagation speed of the infection.(Too much and you'll have trouble containing it.)

[*]lethality of the disease.(Too lethal and no one will get infected.)

[*]mutating speed of the disease (rendering it (most likely)harmless)

[*]Time spend on the development of the disease

[*]resistance against cures (Will probably hinder the diseases propagation speed)

[/list]

Some of those needs are mutually exclusive. There is no super-disease. It will always have several tradeoffs. It will be rather underwhelming in the end.

Honestly, they're dangerous in the way that nukes are dangerous. Only a lot less dangerous.

What is the point of fearing something that nobody will ever use?

The way I see it, it would be simpler, more efficient, more humane and safer to use chemical weaponry.

Chemical weaponry simply does the same job, but better.

I see what you mean (I think I have confused bioweaponry with chemical weaponry).

However on the subject of how easily controllable bioweaponry is, I agree with you. However, it is still being heavily developed by many nations, and thus the chance of an accident regarding bioweaponry is uncomfortably high. No way near as likely as an accident with a nuclear facility, though.

Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, Alekseandrea, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud, The Parron Republic

If it makes you guys feel better my biological weapons are GM bees

Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, Alekseandrea, Quaterna, Kita-Hinode

Rhinononon wrote:If it makes you guys feel better my biological weapons are GM bees

That's dangerous stuff, man.

Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, Alekseandrea, Quaterna

Alekseandrea wrote:What it's made for doesn't really matter.

Bads and toasters are made for bathing and toasting respectively.

Combine the 2 with each other...

🍞 I just got so excited about toast 🍞

The Salaxalans, Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, Alekseandrea, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud, Itrosomia, The Parron Republic, Quaterna

Many nukes have been lost over the decades, with 6 still not yet accounted for to the present day.

32 nuclear weapons accidents have occurred to date (involving loss/theft/accidental launch etc)

Nuclear weapons have also almost wiped out humanity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Soviet_nuclear_false_alarm_incident

Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud

No tgs?

I'm quite surprised.

Also, Parrona invaded Eakira! Warmonger!

(to avoid double posting)

[spoiler= Shameless fillers ]

Parrona and Eakira agrees on a "uti possidetis" peace, Parrona keeps New Dusailis and the surrounding planets.

The Horsean invasion of Eakira grinds to a stalemate.

More Vulturian refugees arrive in UNE, Salmonan.

The privileges of the nobility in Parronia will be stripped.

Socialists and Nationalists alike celebrate the official end of feudalism in Parronia.

Parronia to use party lists in its next election.

[/spoiler]

Matrixulated, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud

I only chose the nuclear option because "nuclear weapons" was tied to to "nuclear power." If "nuclear power" was stand-alone, I wouldn't have selected it, because I don't believe it's inherently evil. Nukes, on the other hand... yikes. Those are no bueno.

Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud, Cetaceon, Aaraksburg

Quaterna wrote:I'd like to make the case why bioweaponry is worse than nuclear weaponry/power (I am taking the poll a bit too seriously, sorry about that...)

First of all, I'd like to insist that nuclear weaponry is awful, however we are talking about nuclear weaponry and nuclear power in this poll. Nuclear power is extremely useful at the moment, as it is a non carbon emitting power source, and thus acts as a stepping stone between fossil fuels and the adoption of renewables. Additionally, nuclear weaponry is mutually assured destruction, and thus in a way the fact that the superpowers have extensive nuclear arsenals means that none dare to go to war against each other, and thus we live in an age of relative peace.

Meanwhile, though nuclear and bioweaponry both cause extensive damage to civilians (for example the increased risk of miscarriages) as well as to the surrounding ecosystems, nuclear weaponry largely involves instantaneous death, whereas bioweaponry involves delayed death, and thus victims of bioweaponry attacks feel physical pain for a considerable amount of time before their deaths.

But what about the after effects of nuclear weaponry? The damages caused by radiation are pretty bad...

Legendus, Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, Aaraksburg

Quaterna wrote:Many nukes have been lost over the decades, with 6 still not yet accounted for to the present day.

32 nuclear weapons accidents have occurred to date (involving loss/theft/accidental launch etc)

Nuclear weapons have also almost wiped out humanity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Soviet_nuclear_false_alarm_incident

Well, "almost".

"Mutually assured destruction" and common sense seems to have done their job well enough.

Besides, wait long enough and nukes become a bunch of harmless uranium surrounded by explosives.

That's if the detonating mechanisms survived. If those are malfunctioning there won't be a nuclear explosion at all.

And then those who stole it need to get past the security mechanisms, which propably involve ancient computer technology.

I think those nukes weren't as much lost as that nobody could be bothered to find them.

Cetaceon wrote:But what about the after effects of nuclear weaponry? The damages caused by radiation are pretty bad...

Look at Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

It's always preferable to be exposed to less radiation,

but it isn't like people magically drop dead because of "the radiation".

Besides, nuclear decay roughly behaves like (1-e^t), so most of the radiation will be released "shortly" after the detonation, quickly regressing to more manageable levels.

Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud, Cetaceon, Aaraksburg

Aaraksburg wrote:No tgs?

I'm quite surprised.

Also, Parrona invaded Eakira! Warmonger!

(to avoid double posting)

[spoiler= Shameless fillers ]

Parrona and Eakira agrees on a "uti possidetis" peace, Parrona keeps New Dusailis and the surrounding planets.

The Horsean invasion of Eakira grinds to a stalemate.

More Vulturian refugees arrive in UNE, Salmonan.

The privileges of the nobility in Parronia will be stripped.

Socialists and Nationalists alike celebrate the official end of feudalism in Parronia.

Parronia to use party lists in its next election.

[/spoiler]

Lemme be the first to say, crack down on them hard, consequences be damned.

(option 1)

Matrixulated

Welcoming people whom have recently arrived according to our regional happenings:

Hello to new friends White Lite and Patato King!!

Matrixulated, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud, Parrona

AH YES, NUKES.

I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS STATIONED IN CUBA IN '62. WHAT A GREAT TIME THAT WAS.

The Salaxalans, Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud, Parrona, Statens

The Grumpy Grandpa wrote:AH YES, NUKES.

I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS STATIONED IN CUBA IN '62. WHAT A GREAT TIME THAT WAS.

Um, there weren’t any American soldiers in Cuba in ‘62. They were in a blockade around Cuba.

Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, Parrona

Kita-Hinode wrote:That's dangerous stuff, man.

You mess with me You get the Bees

Matrixulated

Itrosomia wrote:Um, there weren’t any American soldiers in Cuba in ‘62. They were in a blockade around Cuba.

YOU THINK YOUR OLD GRANDPA WAS A SOLDIER IN '62? NO SIREE, I WAS WORKING WITH THE CIA.

OR THE FBI.

WAIT, WAS IT CUBA?

Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, Rhinononon, Alekseandrea, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud, Aaraksburg

The Grumpy Grandpa wrote:YOU THINK YOUR OLD GRANDPA WAS A SOLDIER IN '62? NO SIREE, I WAS WORKING WITH THE CIA.

OR THE FBI.

WAIT, WAS IT CUBA?

Gramps, I think it's time to go back to that nice house with the ladies in white.

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Darkweb wrote:Gramps, I think it's time to go back to that nice house with the ladies in white.

I THINK IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO GET OFF MY LAWN.

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Darkweb wrote:Gramps, I think it's time to go back to that nice house with the ladies in white.

The Grumpy Grandpa wrote:I THINK IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO GET OFF MY LAWN.

WOAH WOAH WOAH.

Who is threatening Gramps with nurses?

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Itrosomia wrote:Um, there weren’t any American soldiers in Cuba in ‘62. They were in a blockade around Cuba.

There weren't soldiers, but there were CIA operatives in Cuba in '62 - I think Gramps just revealed a shady past... #JustSayin

The Grumpy Grandpa wrote:YOU THINK YOUR OLD GRANDPA WAS A SOLDIER IN '62? NO SIREE, I WAS WORKING WITH THE CIA.

OR THE FBI.

WAIT, WAS IT CUBA?

I guess all those Black Ops, Psy-Ops, and the government experimentation with controlling its military with drugs such as LSD💉💊 (amongst others) kinda made the 1960's and 1970's a bit of a haze for you - Hey, perhaps you were a "man in black"🕵 who has had his memory erased for reasons of National Security??? 👀
Darkweb wrote:Gramps, I think it's time to go back to that nice house with the ladies in white.

**Large black sedan car with government plates pulls up outside Gramps house**

The Grumpy Grandpa wrote:I THINK IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO GET OFF MY LAWN.

**The Men in Black are NOT on your lawn**

Statens wrote:WOAH WOAH WOAH.

Who is threatening Gramps with nurses?

**The last thing you all remember is seeing a bright flash of red light**

AND...

**This has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the Evil Mind-Controlling Alien Overlord Salaxalans**

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Rhinononon wrote:If it makes you guys feel better my biological weapons are GM bees

Wasn't Genetically-modified bees, in combination with Genetically-modified corn, part of the plot for the X-Files movie? 👀🤔

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The Jedi-Zombi Jezus wrote:AND...

**This has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the Evil Mind-Controlling Alien Overlord Salaxalans**

Yep, nothing at all! *whistles innocently*

Matrixulated, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, Alekseandrea, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud, Statens, Aaraksburg

Alekseandrea wrote:Well, "almost".

"Mutually assured destruction" and common sense seems to have done their job well enough.

Besides, wait long enough and nukes become a bunch of harmless uranium surrounded by explosives.

That's if the detonating mechanisms survived. If those are malfunctioning there won't be a nuclear explosion at all.

And then those who stole it need to get past the security mechanisms, which propably involve ancient computer technology.

I think those nukes weren't as much lost as that nobody could be bothered to find them.

Look at Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

It's always preferable to be exposed to less radiation,

but it isn't like people magically drop dead because of "the radiation".

Besides, nuclear decay roughly behaves like (1-e^t), so most of the radiation will be released "shortly" after the detonation, quickly regressing to more manageable levels.

And what about the cancers and DNA mutations the people developed afterwards?

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Cetaceon wrote:And what about the cancers and DNA mutations the people developed afterwards?

Well, that would explain 'Beliebers.'

And man-buns.

Huzzah!

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Cetaceon wrote:And what about the cancers and DNA mutations the people developed afterwards?

Those probably increased, sure, but it honestly isn't that bad.

You'll have a higher chance to die from the heat and shockwave from the nuke.

DNA mutations sound bad, but happen everywhere all the time and cancer is quite manageable these days.

The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud

*moves troops to every settlement in Aaracksburg*

*declares martial law next morning and implements curfew*

*builds wall along any land border we share with other nations*

*[spoiler= and... ]

Begins infiltrating any democratic lesser nation in Spiritus and installing authoritarian leaders wherever we can, starting revolutions and coups without regard for the consequences.

Denounces the largest democracy in Spiritus for being corrupt, starting a cold war. [/spoiler]*

The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud, Quaterna

Aaraksburg wrote:*moves troops to every settlement in Aaracksburg*

*declares martial law next morning and implements curfew*

*builds wall along any land border we share with other nations*

*[spoiler= and... ]

Begins infiltrating any democratic lesser nation in Spiritus and installing authoritarian leaders wherever we can, starting revolutions and coups without regard for the consequences.

Denounces the largest democracy in Spiritus for being corrupt, starting a cold war. [/spoiler]*

The question now is: who is "the largest democracy in Spiritus" with which you have started a "cold war"? - I mean there are many measures and statistics that could be used to argue who is the largest democracy in Spiritus! - Population, Political Freedom, Civil Rights, Economic Freedom; et cetera, et cetera

Great British Federation, Eurasian Alliance, Eastazia, Animal Farmerica, Greater Brazilistan, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud, Auztraalia, Aaraksburg

The Grumpy Grandpa wrote:I THINK IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO GET OFF MY LAWN.

*parks jetbike on OOG's lawn*

Aaraksburg wrote:<pending review from the Ministry of Internal Affairs>

[spoiler= Official Response ]

The Parronan government on Parron and Pegon is not responsible for the unsettling events that occurred in Aaraksburg.

The bill regarding the immunity of Aarakian authorities has been repealed. According to the code of conduct for autonomous territories, the Steward of Aaraksburg should be dismissed and brought back to Parronia for further investigation, however, due to the fact that our fleets are already overextended, we could not apprehend the Steward at this point in time.

TL; DR: It wasn't us! We swear! Blyat, stop asking!

[/spoiler]

The Jedi-Zombi Jezus wrote:The question now is: who is "the largest democracy in Spiritus" with which you have started a "cold war"? - I mean there are many measures and statistics that could be used to argue who is the largest democracy in Spiritus! - Population, Political Freedom, Civil Rights, Economic Freedom; et cetera, et cetera

I don't know.

Random fact: I have a RISK match in approximately 48 hours.

The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud, Quaterna

Quaterna is now in the top 10% for rudeness :(

However we're in the top 5% for weather!

The Salaxalans

Quaterna wrote:Quaterna is now in the top 10% for rudeness :(

However we're in the top 5% for weather!

Just keep your citizens away from tourists and all will be fine.

Statens, Quaterna

Statens has completely avoided using its military...yikes

Quaterna

Statens wrote:Statens has completely avoided using its military...yikes

*stations missiles in nearest authoritarian country*

(totally not asking for a crisis here)

Alekseandrea, Statens, Quaterna

Aaraksburg wrote:*stations missiles in nearest authoritarian country*

(totally not asking for a crisis here)

It could have been worse.

You could have been exporting SOCIALISM.

That would have been wrong and unforgiveable.

The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud, Parrona, Quaterna, Aaraksburg

Post self-deleted by Aaraksburg.

Alekseandrea wrote:It could have been worse.

You could have been exporting SOCIALISM.

That would have been wrong and unforgiveable.

But we areeeee...wait a minute...

We're exporting, um...let me see...*flips pages*...oh yeah, we're exporting Imperialism!

[spoiler= Wait a minute... ]

There isn't a coalition yet? This is further proof that Aggressive Expansion is just a number.

[/spoiler]

The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, Alekseandrea, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud, Quaterna

Aaraksburg wrote:But we areeeee...wait a minute...

We're exporting, um...let me see...*flips pages*...oh yeah, we're exporting Imperialism!

[spoiler= Wait a minute... ]

There isn't a coalition yet? This is further proof that Aggressive Expansion is just a number.

[/spoiler]

[spoiler= Oh please, we're not going to attack our allies ]

We're an autocracy. We are compatible with Imperialism. Aggressive expansion with Aaraksburg: 0

[/spoiler]

The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud, Aaraksburg

[spoiler= Aarakian Early Warning System (in orbit) ]

1 FTL capable transport entering system.

Checking signature...

Alert. Parronan transport inbound.

Status with Parronia: Hostile

Alerting high command...

Orders: Attack upon entry

5 FTL capable frigates entering system.

Checking signature...

5 Snakkran Skink-class frigate inbound.

Status with Snakkra: neutral

Alerting high command...

Orders: Ignore, power up deflectors

[/spoiler]

[spoiler= FAQ: ]

Q. But mister bureaucratic mess that spans multiple galaxies, didn't you always brag about having the shiniest and best quality navy? So why didn't you bring it here?

A. Um, first, did I? I couldn't recall. Alright, back to the point, although I have an intergalactic navy, I also have multiple galaxies to defend, now with Magnus' expedition into Vultur, our occupation of New Dusailis and unrest in Salmonan, to call our logistics overstretched is generous, calling it completely screwed over (or just broken) is more accurate. [/spoiler]

The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud

The Jedi-Zombi Jezus wrote:Wasn't Genetically-modified bees, in combination with Genetically-modified corn, part of the plot for the X-Files movie? 👀🤔

Yes, Yes it was

The Salaxalans, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud

Statens wrote:Statens has completely avoided using its military...yikes

Who needs a military, when everyone is your friend? :)

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Statens wrote:WOAH WOAH WOAH.

Who is threatening Gramps with nurses?

IT'S THE DAMN ZOMBIE MORMON JEDIS.

The Jedi-Zombi Jezus wrote:snip

YOU'RE TOTALLY RIGHT. I'VE LOST MY MIND.

*TAKES OUT WALKIE TALKIE*

CIA OPERATIVE GRAMPS HERE. ELIMINATE GRUMPY CUBA FILES. I REPEAT, ELIMINATE GRUMPY CUBA FILES. OVER.

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Statens wrote:Statens has completely avoided using its military...yikes

Welcome to the no military club Statens!

Statens

Gaelic Waffle wrote:Welcome to the no military club Statens!

Woot woot!

Gaelic Waffle

Well, clearly, we got the strongest bioweapon ever. Niceness.

Cetaceon

The new poll is now live!

The Jedi-Zombi Jezus

Itrosomia wrote:The new poll is now live!

No AI based and socialism option?

Heresy.

(and you replaced Social Democracy with something else, THIS CALLS FOR EXTERMINATUS , also there is no, Spiritual economy, THIS CALLS FOR ANOTHER EXTERMINATUS AFTER THE FIRST!)

P. S. : Do your research

The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud

Itrosomia wrote:The new poll is now live!

**The Jedi-Zombi NKVD approves**

Great British Federation, Eurasian Alliance, Eastazia, The Parron Republic

The Jedi-Zombi Jezus wrote:**The Jedi-Zombi NKVD approves**
Also:

**Джедай-Зомби Сталин говорит; "Привет, товарищ!"**

Great British Federation, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, Eastazia, The Parron Republic

The Jedi-Zombi Jezus wrote:**The Jedi-Zombi NKVD approves**

Eurasian Alliance wrote:Also:

**Джедай-Зомби Сталин говорит; "Привет, товарищ!"**

Also:

**Jedi-Zombi Chairman Miaow🐱 purrs contentedly**

Great British Federation, The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, Eurasian Alliance

The Grumpy Grandpa wrote:IT'S THE DAMN ZOMBIE MORMON JEDIS.

YOU'RE TOTALLY RIGHT. I'VE LOST MY MIND.

*TAKES OUT WALKIE TALKIE*

CIA OPERATIVE GRAMPS HERE. ELIMINATE GRUMPY CUBA FILES. I REPEAT, ELIMINATE GRUMPY CUBA FILES. OVER.

What? CIA???

Alekseandrea, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud

The Salaxalans wrote:What? CIA???
[sub]For more information refer to the post of mine referenced in his.[/sub]

The Salaxalans, Great British Federation, Eurasian Alliance, Alekseandrea, Eastazia, Animal Farmerica, Greater Brazilistan, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud

The Jedi-Zombi Jezus wrote:[sub]For more information refer to the post of mine referenced in his.[/sub]

Hmmm... *increases strength of mind-control rays*

The Jedi-Zombi Jezus, Alekseandrea, The Botched Pejazzle Of The Studly Spud

The Salaxalans wrote:Hmmm... *increases strength of mind-control rays*

A wise move!

**Spontaneous applause erupts**

[sub]n.b. Jedi-Zombi mind tricks and Alien mind-control techniques have absolutely no causal link to this display of affection for our dear leader[/sub]

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The Salaxalans wrote:What? CIA???

YOU DIDN'T SEE SHT.

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