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And you lack evidence to prove yourself right.
On the contrary, bats and dragons are the only featherless animals asides from insects that can achieve sustained flight.
But, I repeat myself, dragons are reptiles and bats are mammal. A reptile can not evolve into a mammal, and vice versa.
At some point in history, a fish evolved probably into an amphibian, which probably in turn evolved into a mammal, which at some point will have evolved into us. In the womb, a human fetus has webbed fingers and toes. Disagreeing with this would be ignorant, disproving it would be pretty hard.
"As you look farther back down the evolutionary line to things like bacteria, we share around 40% of their DNA. As you slowly get closer to humans, we begin to share more and more. We share over 60% of our DNA with insects, 75% of our DNA is identical to reptiles, most mammals have 90% of the same DNA as us, and we share 98% of our DNA with chimps, our closest relatives."
Then, I come to my final and most decisive proof of bats not evolving from dragons: they didn't exist
What, they didn't exist because archaeologists have so far failed to find any fossilised proof? Scientists are starting to believe that it's very possible for a dragon to have existed during the times where the dinosaurs roamed the earth.
Following your example of saying 'you lack any evidence to disprove me', I would say the same thing: You lack any evidence to say that dragons existed.
You also lack any evidence to prove god does or doesn't exist, and to this day there has been no conclusion to that argument. I might lack evidence, but you can't deny that there is a probability that dragons might once have existed, and therefore you can't come to an absolute conclusion. So, my friend, it seems that we are at an impasse.
Agreed. It was nice having this chat with you.
Indeed, until next time!
Poka, good bye, sayanora.
It is interesting how a culture about several thousand years ago could believe in a dragon-like creature and on the opposite side of the world another culture would also believe in a dragon-like creature. Several hundred to several thousand years ago cultures all over the world have believed in such a creature.
Although if dragon have or still exist, I'm pretty sure that they aren't as powerful as they are said to be (fire-breathing).
But there is confirmed evidence that dragons exist, the creature is called a... Komodo Dragon
All cultures at one period thought dragons existed because they found dinosaur bones.
or saw something out of the ordinary like an oarfish
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Dragons may have existed, yes, that's relatively possible. I don't see anyone digging up too much from China, Japan, or really any significant parts of Asia, but still there are possibilities. Perhaps they somehow became fossil fuels quicker because of their genetic structure, maybe their bones were broken down and discarded throughout history before archeology. They definitely didn't breathe fire, logically. Maybe inhaling and exhaling a torch onto some fire-sensitive substance was where the tales began, but it's unknown. At any rate, there are no mythical dragons now. They definitely didn't become bats, because there would be no ethical reason for a reptile to evolve into a mammal, especially in that part of the world. A reptile could evolve into a mammal, if it would help the species survive, but there is no chance a giant or even Komodo Dragon sized and shaped reptile evolving into even the largest bat in the world today. There would be no reason for it. And if they were as powerful, big, and flight-able as foretold, everything has a weakness. Dragons were said to have an underbelly that could be pierced with a sword. I personally believe dragons were folklore from children's books, that some parents may have forgotten to tell their children that they were fiction. I also believe in God, so to some I'm positively insane. Regardless, if there were dragons found in mythology here on earth, at any time, there is no physical trace of them now. Just stories. The Komodo Dragon is called a Dragon, because it is the largest living lizard ( up to 10 ft in length and 336 lbs). They are tough and powerful predators, much like the Dragons of old, but have no wings, no long neck that bends upward while a head looks down on its surroundings; the only relation to dragons is the name, claws, teeth, scales, power, and the fear they may strike into people.
I'm trying to write this as an impartial mediator, because impasses are uneventful. I'm simply saying that both sides have their own points, but in the reality of it all, it's unlikely for mythical dragons to exist, and extremely so as they are described in folklore (giant, fire breathing, long necked, flying). Also, I find there to be absolutely no chance of a lizard/reptile with any description as a dragon to evolve into any bat.
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China has many odd ball dinosaurs
I do believe that the mythical dragon description is probably fake, but there is a chance where like some of the animals in the world they are born and die in a specific way so there is a chance where the dragon existed. Look at the amount of influence that the dragon has, although in the medieval ages men were ignorant, other civilizations in the world believed in dragons at times where they were the most advanced civilization in the world. Modern man probably will never know about whether dragons existed except maybe only a select few....
Dinosaurs are alive and well and masquerading as my parents.
-_- oh, so funny
What's up with the zombie thing?
This year's April Fool's event was a zombie invasion of all regions...some regions successfully found the cure and staved off the invasion, and most like Spiritus utterly failed. It was just for fun...everything was reset at the end of the event, and there should be no changes to your nation because of it.
unless your nation is already made up of zombies
What? I missed the zombie apocalypse?
They should do stuff like that more often...
For the record I was just trolling with the whole dragons evolved into bats thing. Of course they didn't, or it is at least extremely unlikely.
However, in response to KaalSchneid, there really is no telling whether or not a dragon would benefit into becoming a bat. As we know, bats are adapted to living in caves and dark areas. If a small community of dragons perhaps survived the meteor blast that killed off the other dinosaurs, then it would have had to adapt under conditions similar to a nuclear winter, in other words darkness. It's size would have had to adapt due to a lack of food, it might even have been too cold for a dragon to survive in an egg and might therefore lead to the dragons evolving to give birth to live young, the same way a whale adapted due to it's size.
Just a thought! Though the likelihood of a dragon adapting that fast, or even surviving a meteor blast in the first place, is rather slim indeed. And then surviving the ice age, et cetera, very very slim. But there is sadly no telling now, unless they manage to find some kind of ancient bat fossil.
Lipsy, I don't necessarily disagree with you. It's just I also find it unlikely that dragons would go from any size to be considered large to the size of any bat, specifically (as you said) in such a short time. Not impossible, no, but highly unlikely. Dragons were fabled to live in Mountains. My point being that there are actually still dinosaurs that exist today, but they are fish. (Google "Arowana") It's believed the only reason the fish survived was because that the Ice Age earth supposedly encountered after the dinosaurs was due to small ponds found in caves, underground springs, and the like; similar to the reasons early humans lived. I do actually value your input though. I'm glad to find a reasonable, scientific and critically thinking mind, like my own. Kudos.
Dragons are reptiles, bats are mammals. Any similarities are likely due to convergent evolution.
Wow, my nation has a blackmarket in tourism. That's when you know criminal organizations are getting desperate.
XD
how is the wonderful land of Spiritus today
Rome, it should be being brought back for Halloween. Don't you people ever read the news posts?
no
When I have nothing better to do...
Hmmm... maybe I should have not donated too much money to my Navy. Apparently the Navy battleships are being confused for islands. Any country that is not landlocked that declares war with me shall feel the wrath of my city-sized battleships!
I LIKE CHEESE
cream cheese!
Cheese is meh.
cheese is disgusting.
Yeah, cheese is disgusting. Now, eating a nice bloody steak and chasing it down with some milk: that's how you feed a family, right there. Mmm. Now I go make steak.
No milk....milk doesn't go well with meat.
Yes it does
raw fish! sushidesu!
No, it doesn't. It goes well with brownies, doughnuts, chocolate, BUT NOT MEAT.
milk....and meat....ew
EXACTLY. SUSHI!!!!!!!!!!
WOO! I love me some sushi!
meat and milk is just like a cheeseburger, it is dairy with meat.
cheese and milk are not the same
I love it how some nations have an "Imploded" economy, like all the businessmen fail instantly on the same day and the economy that is "Strong" just all of a sudden implodes and the economy just... dies.
yes they are, they are dairy.
Difference, one is liquid and the other is solid.
Cheese is made from milk.
it amuses me as well.
But cheese had different taste from milk, meaning it is eaten with different foods.
true.
But there are different milks and cheeses and they all taste different from each other
My point still stands strong.
You know that two weeks ago on my nations description it said, "...and is well known for the nation's hatred of cheese..." and it was super random, and it was in the first description paragraph not the final paragraph (recent issues paragraph).
My nation's hatred for cheese is considered VERY patriotic!
We were once at war with cheese... it was horrifying, just like the banana-hybrid people that ate the irradiated bananas (an old post discussion).
I see.
An interesting predicament.
My people use cheese as a way of showing their dis-satisfaction with certain governmental leaders.
you mean throwing cheese instead of shoes? interesting...
*Starts chewing on a piece of cheese*
Mmmm... the taste anti-patriotic food.
of* HEIL GRAMMAR
parasitic food :D
not of* but ,*
no, of. The taste but anti-patriotic food, or The taste of anti-patriotic food????
"Mmmm... the taste, anti-patriotic food.
There, much better.
I, see; w`ha'd ya& did ther; 2much g/rammaric stu*ff rit?e.
What happened to your post? Its full of random symbols that make no sense where they are.
They are grammar symbols.
Well a few of them are.
Hello, this is Rutain, the moderators gave me another chance. Just to clear up the confusion.
YAY!
building tanks makes me happy
why tanks?? BUILD GIGANTIC BOATS
I'm pretty sure I already said this but in my nation's description it should say that my people are confusing some of my Navy's Battleships for ISLANDS! It was from a donation to a certain section of the military.
I did that one a while ago. It amused me greatly
Welcome New Nations!
Brissia, Good! Second Chances are good ^.^ Hope you don't screw up!
Quick question, radical does your country tend to get when you make decisions on issues? I'm trying to make sure that I don't send them spiralling into anarchy (cause I don't role that way).
roll*
Sorry autocorrect >.>
HEIL GRAMMAR...kind of ironic of me saying that when I'm a Jew...oh well.
Not kind of ironic, it is ironic ;)
Why thank you, good sir.
Acctually it is good madam to you
Pardon me, it is quite hard to pinpoint one's true gender on the internet.
Gender:
| Male |
|Female|
|Other |
|Cheese|
OH GOD, YOU KNOW ABOUT THE CHEESE GENDER!!!!!!! WOOPIE
Hmm... sure why not? I'll just pretend that I'm a cheese to hide my gender!
Either way can I get my original question answered?
What was it?
How radically does your country react once you made a choice on an issue? As an example my country has two freedom of speech issues up, and while I want to say no to both I don't want to suddenly cripple the nations freedom of speech
Matters from the issue.
One is a nazi parade something or other, another is that people have too much freedom to say hateful things. I'm wanting to strike down both of these (as in provent the nazi parade and state as well that freedom of speech does not mean you can slander someone.)But most of the countries I've seen are in extremes on the FOS issue, and so I'm trying to keep myself from swinging to far one way or the other.
Oh, those two. No, the effect you're gonna choose wont affect your nation drastically. In fact, it will only make your nation better.
Oh okay thanks! *wipes imaginary sweat off her brow*
How do I get my economy going without selling out to the big corporations? A nation cannot live off of woodchip exports alone!
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