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Region: Thalassia
RP
The delegates from grey County landed in avalonia
RP
the leader of the communist party Alexander starts a flight to Avalon.
RP tags!!
RP
To Prime Minister Manion,
I wish to address the concerns you raised about Kalderisaran elections. Our nation's government is based on the principle of meritocracy. Our leaders are not selected based on the whims of the common man, nor on blood, nor on wealth, but through rigorous testing of moral character and ability in policy-making. The men and women of the Serene Council are not charismatic demagogues, but experienced ambassadors, civil servants, legal experts, economists, and others. They are assisted by the best and brightest experts on whatever fields that are relevant to current events- scientists, generals, doctors. Our government has a culture of intellectual humility, open-mindedness, and above all, service to the people.
Without elections, we have the freedom to make long-term plans and to make difficult, unpopular decisions. The Council's ability to shepherd the people to productive goals has brought us to the forefront of development. We are leaders in industry, in science, in the environment, in human health and development. We have eliminated crime from vandalism to government corruption. And all the while, we have not merely maintained but expanded civil rights. Rest assured that our citizens are free to live their private lives as they see fit. No secret police will come to drag them away in the night at the order of an unknown official.
I do hope that you will overlook the differences in how our leaders are selected, and instead support our continued efforts to serve the public.
Sincerely,
Alimon Aeperios, Prince of Kalderisara
Nationific, Ayeinc, Tirr Savattstra
RP
Nation Guy, along with Defense Minister Robert Stryder and Minister of Foreign Affairs, Albert Meyer, has taken off in the NationJet, scheduled to arrive at Avalonia in 3 hours.
Ayeinc, Monkelandd, Amboron
RP
We disagree with your selection process
RP
The leader of Amboron Aiden Wilson takes off from Amboron and is estimated to arrive in Avalonia in three hours.
Nationific
RP
Recently elected President of Tirr Savattstra, Dr. Rhadei Orra, sinks into her airplane seat with a sigh of relief. "Missing the last flight would have made a terrible first impression," she says quietly to Admiral Mingham Trakai, "We really need to address the urban infrastructure sooner than later." The admiral shrugs, "Tirr Savattstra to Avalonia is a hop, skip and a jump. We're going to be early if anything."
The delegation from Tirr Savattstra, Dr. Orra and Minister of Defense Admiral Trakai, will land in something less than an hour.
(OOC, I thought my laptop was dead for most of the day and was trying to do whatever to fix it. turned out the last Windows update was eating it. I'll be present and accounted for!)
Nationific, Monkelandd, Amboron
RIP Windows.
Tirr Savattstra, Amboron, Brinckerhoff
RP
Leader of The Democratic Republic of Amboron, Aiden Wilson has succesfully landed in Avalonia.
Nationific
RP
The Conklandi aerospace minister has landed in New Camelot Of Avalonia for the space summit.
RIP
The PM wakes up at his hotel and goes downstairs to a private breakfast before the summit
The Windows is dead. Long live the Windows!
RP
Prime Minister Jerry Manion held a press conference before the summit today outlining his priorities going into the summit, saying: "There must be an agreement that at the very least deters the alarming militarization of space" and "There must be consequences for those who don't follow this agreement" and "I will very disappointed if nothing comes out of this agreement."
He also addressed the issue of Kalderisara, saying:
"We must understand that no system is perfect, no system will find the perfect leader 100% of the time, no system will perfectly represent the people, no system will do anything perfectly, and we must understand that. There we always ways to cheat and there will always be people who wish to cheat the system, who want to undermine the merit of seemingly every single tiny detail. But there will always be people who genuinely want to do good for the world, and whether or not they achieve that we must not understate their will, their motivation. My good friend, Hopal's good friend Prince Alimon Aeperios of Kalderisara, I think has always wanted to give back wanted to do good for his people and the world, and there are some bad decisions that I bet he and the world regret, but we all make mistakes, that is part of being human. I know Prince Alimon grew up in a family of farmers, well there are hundred of thousands, millions of farmers in his simply want to speak to the government, to have a say even if advisatory, want a say in how their country, their country is run. I think I've sent a clear message to the Prince. I hope there are democratic reforms, I will not undermine Prince Alimon's credibility I know that deep down he is a good person, I've read his books, and I know he was a commoner but I also know that are many commoners in his country who also want a say in government. But I wish to work with him at this summit, and I think our two nations have a bright future ahead of us."
Kalderisara
Happy Canada Day everyone
Nationific, Ayeinc, Monkelandd, The Grey County Space Agency
Happy Canada Day, 153 years since the beginning of confederation.
Nationific, Ayeinc, Monkelandd, The Grey County Space Agency
RRP
Nation Guy has landed in Avalonia.
Ayeinc
RP
The Pm walks out of his car and walks over to nation Guy. "Hello he says"
Nationific
RP
The Prime Minister and the delegation have left the hotel and boarded a car for the short journey to the International Conference Center at the Royal Amaliansrens-Grande in Kanalgården, a District of Köbarnhavn.
Nationific
RP
Nation Guy replies with a 'hi'. He then asks the PM about his views on the demilitarisation of space.
Monkelandd
RP
The Leader of Amboron, Aiden Wilson has departed for the International Conference Center at the Royal Amaliansrens-Grande in Kanalgården, a District of Köbarnhavn.
Nationific
RP
President Stephen Adoric-Marrick made his way to the International Conference Center with his Cabinet this morning. He spots Prime Minister Jerry Manion of Hopal and congratulates him on his inauguration. President Adoric-Marrick also voices his concern with the ongoing dispute between Hopal and Kalderisara, and hopes the two countries can come to terms.
While in the conference center, he walks over President Nation Guy and Prime Minister James Garfunkel. The Ayeincian President talks to the President and Prime Minister wishing for a productive summit. Stephen Adoric-Marrick then walks around, admiring the building and surrounding area.
Nationific, Monkelandd
RP
The Clarkstanian delegation headed to the International Conference Center,with the hope that any agreement will be reached that will be acceptable to all parties.
Nationific
RP
Terms of the Space Summit
The Aerospace Minister had come up with a potential treaty:
1. All militaries agree to have no infrastructure or personnel that could be used to interfere with any nation's infrastructure or prevent them from reaching space (E.g. Anti-satellite lasers)
2. The TPKO shall have the ability to punish all transgressors with fines ($1 million minimum) and potential confiscation of space property for use in the Thalassian Space Agency (or whatever you call it).
3. Finally, in the event of any space programs running out of money, the Conklandi Fund (worth over $120 billion) will be the lender of last resort for any national governments up to $1 billion.
The lender of last resort clause is not just for space programs.
Note that the contract was drawn up with the Finance minister.
Nationific
RP
Prime Minister Manion talks to President Adoric-Marrick of Ayeinc saying "We are not in a dispute with Kalderisara but rather a disagreement of principle, we hope that it does not become a dispute I respect Prince Alimon and will be speaking with him later today. I hope that our two nations will have a long and prosperous relationship and I hope we have the time to talk about border policy in the near future."
He then walks over to Prince Alimon of Kalderisara.
Ayeinc, Monkelandd
RP
Nationific partly agrees with Conklandi, but proposes a poll, in which all nations, regardless of attendance in the summit, may cast their vote. The vote would be, either to have orbital WMD's, but launch them only with permission from all original voting members, or to completely ban orbital WMD's. Nationific believes that a free-for-all launch and destroy scenario would be detrimental, to say the least, to peace in Thalassia.
OOC: All nations means all RP nations.
Ayeinc, Monkelandd, Amboron
RP
The leader of Amboron reaches the International Conference Center at the Royal Amaliansrens-Grande in Kanalgården, a District of Köbarnhavn and greets all other leaders present at the venue.
Nationific
RP
On behalf of Hopal Prime Minister Manion votes to ban all orbital WMBs saying "We cannot destroy our next frontier. If we allow weapons into space it is a recipe for disaster."
Nationific, Monkelandd
RP
Amboron agrees to the proposal by Nationific regarding the implimentation of a voting process, since any nation using WMD's could begin a full scale war scenario which would be catastrophic for all the nations present in the region and that is most certainly not preferred.
Nationific
RP
Nationific votes for Thalassia controlled orbital WMD deployment.
OOC: We need to keep track of votes. So, if you're on discord, just write in the roleplayers guild channel about your vote.
If not, please send a telegram to any rp mod.
RP
Dana Hearts plane lands in New Camelot Of Avalonia.
Nationific, Monkelandd
RP
Leader of Amboron Aiden Wilson votes for Thalassia controlled orbital WMD deployment saying "Satellites have been used for various military activities which are essentially of a passive nature. In recent years, the superpowers have introduced "killer weapons" into space. As per my thoughts it is important to keep outer space a zone which is friendly and can be a passive zone for all nations but can also be used for military strengthening overlooked by the region of Thalassia since it may be extremely useful in times when the security, and peace of one or more countries has been threatened."
Nationific
OOC: Hopal Ii, do u want me to vote on your behalf? I know you don't have discord
Nationific
RP
After some time, delegations from the Federal Republic of Clarkstan slistened to the parties who commented on summit topic.President Gavric stated:
,,WMD has enough on earth and it should only be there. But not all nations are in TPKO, so in our opinion they do not have the legitimacy to confiscate space property from countries that are not their members.It is not the topic of the summit why we are not a member of the TPKO, but I will be willing to explain why.We are also against the Thalassian Space Agency, there should simply be a commission composed of ministers of science and technology for example, which will oversee states that have interests in space.For now, that's it.,,
Nationific
No vote, then, Clarkstan?
Monkelandd
RP
Alexandero Nassino made a speech:
"We have already seen the consequences of WMDs on Earth, and the effect they threaten to have on our people. They are mutual, so if one nation has them, all feel required to possess them. The only way forward for Thalassia is an ultimate ban that stops an arms race between nations, and brings the focus to real people, and their lives, not just to the egocentric squabbling of leaders. We must continue to be the peaceful region we are, whether on our soil or in our skies. Space must be for science, and for collaboration, not regional infighting. We must unite, in our common goals for peace, democracy and advancement."
Tirr Savattstra
Agencies have an affinity for upgrading which is not in Clarkstan's interest. A commission composed of ministers is enough. For now, no.
Nationific
Monkelandd
RP
We vote NO
Nationific
Post self-deleted by Monkelandd.
What do you vote?
Put that in on owl's post on discord
Can we call another vote, on the purpose of space exploration?
Nationific
Nationific, Monkelandd
OOC:How can we enforce the rules as not all nations are in TAN
TAN has it, I guess, TSEP
Like, if rules get broken, all nations, at least in this summit collectively do something bout that...
Monkelandd
What do you mean? I'm talking about space forces and colonisation of the moon and mars, should it be for science or for colonialism?
Nationific
TSEP is science, and if there's colonisation, the while if Thalassia does it, no in-between. But non TAN nations, for that, we have to figure something out. The new RP plans are exciting in this regard, wait till it gets implemented.
Monkelandd
Colonization and militarization of the space should not be placed in the same context.
Nationific, Monkelandd
Nationific, Monkelandd
OOC:
Huh, 303 million citizens.
Well that means-
Error found
Putting backup system...
Error 303: The Outer Union can't be found, Please try spain
Nationific, Monkelandd
Wasn't it 404?
Monkelandd
RP
After voting for the ban, President Gavric wants to make it clear:,,We voted for the ban, but you should keep in mind that if a country that did not attend the summit and starts the militarization of space, Clarkstan will do the same.This is nothing new, I have been saying this in public in the previous days.That is why we are against confiscation by TPKO and the Tahalassian Space Agency.We have a plan here regarding this scenario, that all countries that fear have a guarantee that Clarkstan will not use this type of weapon against them.And if anyone in Clarkstan dares to do that and I hope no one will do it. Clarkstan will have to pay him compensation or some other form of punishment that the injured party decides.It will be an international agreement that will have to be found in Clarkstan's national legislation, which means that it must be ratified by Federal House.This means that if future President Clarkstan orders an attack from that type of weapon, if he does not pay compensation, the Federal Council will replace him if the Federal Parliament fails to do so (because there are no people from politics in the council but only people from all fields of science).That would be an international obligation of the Federal Republic of Clarkstan,if Clarkstan is forced to possess that weapon.This only applies to states that do not have weapons in space, for those who have , only if Clarkstan uses it first.That's it.,,
Nationific, Monkelandd
RP
The Avalonian Government proposes a full ban on the militarization of space, and calls upon other nations to follow suit, especially the many other countries that have also committed to supporting this.
Laeden, Nationific, Ayeinc, Monkelandd, Tirr Savattstra
Yeah no, 303 is when you are redirected to another URL instead of the one you choose, whoops
Nationific
RP
President Rhadei Orra arrives and takes her place among the other delegates. When recognized, she makes the following statement.
"The contested notion of militarization of space is alarming, particularly in light of how eager some nations in our part of the world are to shoot first and ask questions later. There's been a regrettable lack of diplomacy lately, and a massive build up of WMDs in space would be a disaster sooner than later as long as these leaders of men and women are so trigger-happy.
"Beyond that, militarizing space is morally reprehensible. There are enough WMDs on the actual planet to kill every living thing several times over without expanding the capability beyond the earthly plane. The money that would be spent on such a build-up could be used to fund education, healthcare, agriculture, the arts and sciences of our nations--life instead of death.
Tirr Savattstra votes no. Thank you."
New Camelot Of Avalonia, Monkelandd, The Outer Union
RP
Clarkstanian delegation talking between each other
We said all what we had,said Arseniy Startsev
Clear and loud,replied John Lindmar
To be honest, I expected more, what do you think, Mr. President?ask Arseniy Startsev
You said all at the beginning, I have no other solution,President Gavric answered
Are you sure, Mr. President, if the worse case happens, the parliament will ratify the agreement?ask John Lindmar
Yeah,100%.I want to see how this all ends?President Gavric replied
RP
The laedenian Consul, mr. d'Albignac, enthusiastically supports the Avalonian government. All weapons, be WMDs or not, must be banned from being installed in space, based in space, transported in space or otherwise travelling to space until reaching its targets. Laeden firmly believes in international fraternity and peace, and expect nations to join in a quest to overcome petty rivalries and reach for the final frontier as brothers, not adversaries.
New Camelot Of Avalonia, Nationific, Monkelandd
RP
Nation Guy, after extensive conversation with Mr. Stryder and Mr. Meyer, has decided to change his vote to a complete ban. Details will be forthcoming.
Laeden
When will the vote end?
Nationific
Idk
RP
Alexandero Nassino is grateful for his allies votes for complete demilitarisation. He thanked Nation Guy for changing his vote. Anna Orana, opposition leader made it clear in Parliament that she did not think this was the right move and felt that it undermined the security of our nation. Ezra Esercito called for the deregulation and privatisation of space.
Clarkstan, Laeden
RP
[I]In our country, private companies do space exploration, but with the mediation of the government. In any case, we think the votes will be collected.
President Gavric
RP
The German government is concerned about the ban on weapons in space and worried that its defenses in space cant happen and asks if it can have weapons in space but only above the The 3rd German Republic and not above any other nation or that defense forces can be at German space bases.
I'm not someone who can say yes or no, but if we concede that to you, we have to allow the same for anyone who wants it, and military buildup can escalate pretty rapidly. Where does it stop once permitted?
RP tag
I wasn't asking in RP. That was an actual question.
Clarkstan, Monkelandd
RP
No, if we vote no, you must comply.
New Camelot Of Avalonia, Tirr Savattstra
World Assembly - General Assembly - Repeal: Military Identification Tag Act
Vote: Against
The Military Identification Tag Act needs improvement, but the repeal states that the personal information on the tag may harm that solider. It's far-fetched when you consider that original resolution only mandates "Full Legal Name," "Military identification number," and "Blood type." I'm voting against, but I would vote For if a better written repeal came to vote.
Monkelandd, Brinckerhoff
Guys why aren't we doing any regional voting?
RP
we vote for controlled weaponized space we believe this is the best way to keep peace to allow at least basic weapons into space to defend from things such as asteroids, possible hostile aliens (if aliens at all), and rouge nations that bring WMD's into space no matter what
so we will be voting yes for controlled weaponized space. and i believe that having counter WMD dives should be allowed in space.
The 3Nd German Republic
New flag!
Nationific, Ayeinc, Monkelandd
RP
The RaumKraft (the German space force) has made a statement about the possible ban on weapons in space.
The RaumKarft will not be stopped from putting weapons into space as we must keep our nation safe and we will not attack other nations (unless we have too) and will stay defensive for The 3rd German Republic.
OOC
wow my murder rate is 215 times El Salvador's in RL, but the game says I have a "moderate" crime rate. 8^o
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate#/media/File:Highest_murder_rates_graph.png
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=juvena/detail=people
RP
We will continue to have a space force so that we are not un prepared for rogue nations
RP
The Avalonian Government is offering 1 million Æ and Avalonian citizenship to the person who creates our chosen tourism slogan. Check out our nation, take a look at what distinguishes us, and peek at our factbooks maybe, but please come up with something good! Telegram your entry!
Nationific, Monkelandd, Juvena
RP
Nationific believes that having space weapons would be petty, in the larger scheme of Solar System, or even, outer space. While that doesn't mean that countries should be left defenseless against enemy attacks from space, Nationific also believes that not having space weapons in the first place would be beneficial to all parties, warring, colonising, exploratory, or otherwise.
OOC:
[spoiler=This one is not meant for rp in character. Just saying, to keep things interesting]I'll be keeping some RODS for myself. No other nations. This is not available information in character. No one in character knows it. This is strictly Ooc discussion. Fyi, nations are always involved in this type of double dealing. I promise I won't flatten any of you guys. But, just in case[/spoiler]
Monkelandd, Brinckerhoff
RP
Vote
The Conklandi Aerospace Minister will vote against WMDs due to the potential of increased warfare.
New Camelot Of Avalonia, Nationific, Monkelandd, Tirr Savattstra, Amboron
Nationific, Monkelandd, Amboron, Juvena
What were the results of the vote?
RP
Hopal proposes a joint WMD program in space where controlled by generals from all countries so that we aren't unprepared for rogue nations and so that countries don't need their own WMD program in space.
Nationific, Amboron
RP
Amboron agress with the proposal put forward by Hopal Ii.
Nationific
[spoiler=Final Results]
Should WMD face restrictions in Thalassia (TBD) or face a full ban regionally? - Restrictions 4, Ban 9
Should Thalassia implement a ban on the militarization of space? - Yes 12, No 3, Abstain 0[/spoiler]
Should Thalassian space exploration be limited to scientific exploration, or full colonisation? Science 10, Colonisation 5
Poll closes 03 Jul 2020 15:11:59 ET (1 day from now).
That was quite similar to Nationific's restrictions proposal
Nationific, Ayeinc, Hopal Ii
RP
I agree with Hopal Iis proposal
Nationific
RP
Nationific would rather not have any orbital WMD's launched into space. It would remain neutral in such matters, but will help with weapons if called in to do so.
Ooc: I'm an honest nation trying to earn an honest living, lol
Ayeinc, Monkelandd, Hopal Ii
RP - The Avalonian Broadcasting Community
This year, the Avalonian Broadcasting Community, made up of all the press establishments in the country, partnered with the Avalonian University Community, made up of all the universities in the country, and the Avalonian National Ministry of Culture, to collect information on what the national drink should be. And the results are in!!!!!
After polling over 6 billion people, the Avalonian Government is pleased to announce that ICED TEA has been chosen as the national drink. To celelbrate this new addition to the national identity, all tourists in Avalonia will be given a special pass to have FREE iced tea - on the house (of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg- ven-Avalonien)!
Did you know?
Tea is extremely central to the Avalonian identity. The average Avalonian has 4.512 cups of tea every day. When vertical farming was first introduced in Avalonia, it was for tea farming! Devised in 1912 by the University of Mariennesport, it was created out of the need to reduce the footprint of Avalonian tea farms, so that development could happen. Eventually funded by the Avalonian Ministry of the Environment to make a total end to deforestation plausible, between 1912 and 1922, 914 facilities were built for Avalonian tea production, and the facilities proved so lucrative that all farms in Avalonia were made vertical, except in tourist-popular rural areas that are especially scenic with farms. Today, if you know the right doors to go down and corridors to follow, you will find floors upon floors, or, more accurately, floors below floors, of vertical farms, built underneath major cities.
So come! Visit Avalonia, have some free tea, and tag along on a three hour vertical farming walking tour, and discover what Avalonia has for you!
Paid for by the Avalonian Ministry of State
Nationific, Ayeinc, Monkelandd, Tirr Savattstra
Tea? I wouldn't visit Avalonia for that.
Monkelandd, Tirr Savattstra
I would, but I'm much closer geographically.
*Britain and India intensify*
Nationific, Tirr Savattstra, Hopal Ii, Juvena
RP
Sports News,CLTV 1
Tomorrow from July 3 to August 2 will be played the sixth *Clarkstanian Regional Cup in football to be held in Vasilevgrad (second largest city) and defender of title from 2016 is selection of Jackob City.This event is considered to be one of the most popular sporting events that can be compared to world-class competitions in terms of the number of visitors.
*The Regional Cup has been played since 2000 on the initiative of President Luka Gavric, whose cabinet, together with the Ministry of Youth and Sports and Clarkstanian Football Federation.The game is attended by 16 teams every four years.The teams are made up of the best players from clubs in the region. For example: The Layton selection is made up of the best players from FC Layton, FC Wolf and FC Dallas.
RP
A hurricane has been discovered off the coast of Grey County. It is currently a category 5 and looks like it will go through grey County then turn towards Hopal Ii.
RP
As one of the oldest nations to have been in space, Badivermeraed strongly protests space militarization, and will pledge to only use space for scientific and human advancement.
Nationific, Ayeinc, Monkelandd, Tirr Savattstra
Am I the only exception? The tea one, I mean.
Monkelandd
He whats the best choice for the capital city issue?
Monkelandd
I would say the first one, it has pretty much no effect if I remember correctly, other than allowing you to customize your capital city's name.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1397007
The first edition of the Regional newsletter is up!!!
Nationific, Ayeinc
RP
The PM has ordered all people on the coast to evacuate and the capital has temporarily been relocated inland. The hurricane will probably make landfall tomorrow. The wind speed in the hurricane is over 200 mph.
Nationific
RP
Monkelandd will send 50ρ million (NS$75 million) to Grey County to help with aid towards this hurricane.
Nationific
RP
The PM has publicly thanked Monkelandd and will make sure the aid goes directly to the people.
Nationific, Monkelandd
Hey folks, this is just one part and the beginning of the constitution, which I am working on. Next time I will publish it when I finish it
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1399139
Nationific, Ayeinc, Monkelandd
RP
The hurricane has been Named hurricane Amy
Nationific, Monkelandd
RP:
The Lushian Kiki (congress), President Butterfly and a majority of the Lushian public support the use of space exploration specifically and only for peaceful purposes, such as science and tourism. The nation will vote accordingly on Hopal II's proposal.
Nationific, Monkelandd
The URA super elections are taking place throughout July. All members of Thalassia are eligible to run for positions and vote in the elections!
More information here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1395961
The URA is an interregional alliance and World Assembly voting bloc that we are a part of.
Nationific, Ayeinc, Monkelandd
Assembled with Dot's Region Saver.
Written by Refuge Isle.