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Region: Thalassia
Im staying but Im keeping contact with Germania.
Monkelandd, Hopal Ii
By definition, it was not doxxing. This information came from the use of an email to help create documents for a group, which included a name and birth year (among other things). None of this information was published. It is not doxxing to contact moderation privately with this information, especially when it was put out freely as it was (Accident or not, it is your responsibility to protect yourself online. Please dont make it easy for people with actual malicious intent to have your information). It is doxxing go out of ones way to gather this information or to publicly post this information, neither of which has occurred.
The United Nations Of Kvenland, Czech Germania, Ayeinc, Veaetmar, Zentata, Arenado, Monkelandd, Kalderisara, Hopal Ii
Im staying because I have made a lot of Progress progress in Thalassia And Im not throwing it away.
The United Nations Of Kvenland, Nationific, Zentata, Banq, Hopal Ii
So now I'm lost, a third party source referred this information to you or did you have access to the information when it was accidentally shared, instead of someone else telling/giving you access to it?
Zentata, Hopal Ii
It was reported to me.
Ayeinc, Zentata
..............
I do not like the voting format presented in the poll at all.
My current position is anything but kingdom/queen, but its rigged in such a manner that if I vote my own option, it makes it harder to get another preferable option to win.
I actually like some of the other choices, so I request/demand the voting format to be changed into one that allows you to vote multiple options.
The United Nations Of Kvenland, Ayeinc, Zentata, Monkelandd
Sadly not possible with the ns polling system.
Czech Germania
Then can we instead do an elimination system where you vote out the ones that you dont want until one is left?
The United Nations Of Kvenland, Toerana Vii, Zentata, Monkelandd
I'm afraid that is simply not possible using NationStates polls, it only allows one vote per person and you can only have one poll going on at a time. The way that this poll is currently formatted is the best way to format the poll on NationStates using NationStates polling.
Czech Germania, Ayeinc, Zentata
And did the report just contain his age?
No, but if we had a better voting system it could be done through multiple polls
Ayeinc, Zentata, Monkelandd, The Lustrous Ones
Will everyone just forget about this.
May I suggest that we use a bracket system? It's not perfect, but it's an improvement.
The Lustrous Ones
One day . . . one day you'll appreciate my polls!
https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=158182
Nationific, Toerana Vii, The Lustrous Ones, Kalderisara
Darn, I can never escape TSP polls!
I'm asking a question as to how to Sho obtained the information and how detailed it was, I'm not attempting to attack yourself or dispute your discord ban.
Czech Germania, Ayeinc, Zentata, Monkelandd, The Lustrous Ones
I really like at least 2 other options on the poll and probably some other voters have multiple preferences as well. Personally I think polls of this format for something important like this should be reserved to only 2 options, but besides that I think most of us would rather have our 2nd preferred option win rather than our least favorite option win, or something.
Oh also, I prefer we separate region classification voting from user-title voting. My suggestion for principality and... the glorious founder title wasnt supposed to be combined. Sorry Arenado i shouldve specified when I sent it in.
Toerana Vii, Zentata, Monkelandd
Post self-deleted by Wymondham.
Heya Toerana Iii, I'm on the discord moderation team and I've decided to personally explain what occurred as I feel it ought to be explained. Firstly this is a dictionary definition of doxxing: "to search for and publish private or identifying information about (a particular individual) on the Internet, typically with malicious intent.". Germania, made available to an individual their Google account information which contained both their date of birth and their G-suite school year information. Said information was not published but was instead immediately passed to discord administration, by said individual, who is being kept anonymous for obvious reasons and may step forward if they so choose but who's identity will not be revealed by server administration. Said date of birth and G-suite school grade information put them at an age below that required by the discord terms of service and thus the discord server administration is required to ban them from the server to remain in compliance with discord ToS.
The United Nations Of Kvenland, Czech Germania, Nationific, Ayeinc, Zentata, Monkelandd
Not too extend the argument but I telegramed sho what you all misunderstood, please respond to it sho and tell everyone
Zentata
Also I'm going to ask this now. This was an OOC moderation decision. I was extremely uncomfortable bringing it onto an IC forum like the RMB but some sort of statement had to be made, that said I think it's for the best that we all leave this issue here, if people have any questions please contact a discord mod or admin privately
The United Nations Of Kvenland, Ayeinc, Zentata, Monkelandd
1) I have not used the term doxxing after Sho clarified where the information was shared, I am not saying that Germania was doxxed.
2) I am not interested in who shared the information, just how much of the information they had access to they shared to others, discord moderation or otherwise.
3) I understand why they are banned, but if no member of the moderation team had access to the information from the primary source (the account itself) prior to the reporter passing information on, then the reporter likely unconsentually shared personal details of another member of the region, which I don't believe is acceptable in most instances. If just the age of shared, then all I can say is "fair enough," but if more information was shared to the moderation team unconsentually then I have an issue with it. From my understanding, this was an accidental sharing of information, not a deliberate one.
4) C'mon, at least ping the right nation smh
Nationific, Ayeinc, Zentata, Kalderisara
Hey there. I'm new to the region so I'd like to quickly introduce myself. I don't know exactly what to say, but I think it's safe to say that I'm very excited to be here with you all. I hope I can have a lot of fun here with you and I'll try to get as much involved as I can. I think that's it =)
The United Nations Of Kvenland, Czech Germania, Nationific, Ayeinc, Veaetmar, Toerana Vii, Zentata, Monkelandd, Tirr Savattstra, Nitra-Silesia, Kalderisara, The Outer Union
Welcome, I hope you enjoy yourself.
Toerana Vii, Zentata, Monkelandd, Kalderisara
Welcome. I am a observer state-puppet.
Welcome to Thalassia! I'd reccomend joining the regional discord to get involved even more!
The United Nations Of Kvenland
Hello there
[spoiler=Response to Concerns]My apologies for the delay in response- I was handling some matters IRL. Im glad were on the same page regarding the discord ban. Ill try to answer your questions as best I can now that I am available.
All I have now is a birth year from the email with the name blanked out for Germanias security and an age. Backing evidence was provided but was promptly removed for his security and its been made clear since that sensitive information like that neednt be passed along. I think in the moment its understandable to want to back your claims so you dont look malicious.
All of this, by the by, was easily accessible by anyone with access to TANs documents (TAN, Moderation, and Administration), which is why an NS email is imperative. Which is more or less what I was getting at- he accidentally revealed himself and this person mentioned it to A. Protect him and B. Keep us in compliance. And honestly, a public forum is not the best venue to hash out concerns about the sharing of private information or the specifics of how information was/wasnt shared rather than asking in private to alleviate concerns about sharing private information. It kind of undercuts the point we are trying to make and I will be making no further public comments on the matter.[/spoiler]
Welcome to Thalassia! Im looking forward to seeing you get more involved. Let us know if you have any questions. 😄
Nationific, Badivermeraed, Ayeinc, Toerana Vii, Zentata, Arenado, Monkelandd, Zeneslav, Kalderisara
Thank you Sho.
Nationific, Monkelandd
I go to sleep. And the region goes haywire. I smell something here!
Edit: I'm not commenting on anything in particular. Just referring to my awesome keeping-region-together skills
And also, welcome, Laeden!
Ayeinc, Arenado, Monkelandd, Portugal And Great Britannia, Tirr Savattstra
Just updated my stats! Pretty cool stuff that the MoC is doing, I must say.
Nationific, Esperanitia
🤔 Has someone kidnapped Bad and replaced him with a government promotion drone? :O
Thanks for the clarification, and the public forum is the most appropriate place to clarify how much was shared, not what was shared - I was never asking for that, since it's good for everyone who may have concerns to have them answered
Nationific, Ayeinc, Sho, Arenado, Monkelandd, Kalderisara, Esperanitia
404, error, humans have discovered the secret, switching to manual 🤖
Nationific, Ayeinc, Toerana Vii, Monkelandd, Maxilains, Esperanitia
>>Have the bots returned?
>>>Initiate Government Bot search. Run anti-bot.exe
Toerana Vii, Monkelandd, Esperanitia
RP
The Act on changes in the Maxilains Senate has just been implemented.
From now on, all 50 senators elected from among the nobles in all of
regions (1 for each of the 50 provinces of Maxilains) and will gather in
Nieuw Rotterdam every month to discuss the matter in the state and
possibly introduce reforms.
(this is non rp: If I were to compare it to something, it
would be something like the Polish-Lithuanian nobility from the 16th to the 18th century)
Nationific, Tirr Savattstra
i havent been on here in a looooooooong time
Mornicoder, Czech Germania, Nationific, Veaetmar, Toerana Vii, Monkelandd, Tirr Savattstra, Maxilains
Oh no not again!
Nationific, Toerana Vii
>>Thalassinator: The Rise of The Bots
Toerana Vii, Monkelandd, The Colony Of The Holy Land Of Germania
The uprising has begun!
Is this rp? You need stats and rp tags if it is.
No, it's just general conversation. But an RP would be good.
Toerana Vii, Zentata
Can I use my old ones
Zentata
No, because the nation is different and the stats are bound to be different.
Zentata, Maxilains
RP
The Conklandi government announces that vaccine production had started after it transpires that there was a document detailing the production of the vaccine.
It also had coordinates listed which led to a stockpile in a previously undiscovered island off the coast, which contained vaccines, guns with ammunition and a document stating that the rebels in Coalandia and other nations were responsible for the creation of this virus.
The Conklandi government had also arrested fifteen persons for spying for the rebel collective under Operation Pinniped, which included the ministers of the border regions for health and security.
In other news, the B-20 epidemic seems to have slowed down as only five deaths out of the hundred infected had come out of the border regions.
Nationific, Ayeinc, Monkelandd, Maxilains, The Colony Of The Holy Land Of Germania
RP
If the Conklandi government approves, Monkelandd would like to assist in the manufacturing and distribution of a vaccine.
Nationific, Conklandi, Maxilains, The Colony Of The Holy Land Of Germania, Hopal Ii
I was gone for 24 hours.
Nationific, Ayeinc, Toerana Vii, Monkelandd, Conklandi, Maxilains
Spooky
Ayeinc, Banq
RP
If the Conkland government sends a copy of the vaccine records
to the B-20, Maxilains will produce them (vaccines) on a massive
scale so that any willing citizen can get vaccinated.
I was really hoping we might choose something less plain and more creative for the new titles but there we go
Nationific, Ayeinc, Toerana Vii, Monkelandd, The Lustrous Ones
I have a question, since Holy Land of Germania has
left Thalassia, who is the leader of I.C.T.N.N now and
does it still exist?
The ICTTN is merging with TAN. I will be releasing a dispatch explaining TAN and the merger.
Monkelandd, Maxilains
Its because the voting format sucks. I still say we do elimination instead of this thing because at this rate, an option which only has like 1/3 of the total votes is going to win.
Monkelandd, Kalderisara
Now TAN's legit. Official. Let's just hope that we have a few writers for the charter.
Ayeinc, Monkelandd, Maxilains, Kalderisara
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1374922
Come and join the Thalassian Assembly of Nations! Read the dispatch for more information!
Czech Germania, Nationific, Toerana Vii, Monkelandd, Maxilains, Kalderisara
Oh Ok
Ayeinc
RP Announcements about the vaccines
The Conklandi government announces that the vaccine instructions will be made public for international use due to requests.
It will be available on the official government website for all nations to access.
Zentata, Hopal Ii
RP
[spoiler=News, CLTV 1]
-Today, 50 new B-20 cases were registered in Clarkstan, while 200 of them were recovered.General number of cases 1,165
Active:865
Recovered:500
-Clarkstan will create a vaccine against B-20 by mid-June, said Healthcare Minister Irina Shestova.[/spoiler]
Ayeinc
RP
As Hopal has no active B-20 cases Hopal will be exporting materials to make the vaccine to other countries as Hopal does not need it.
Ayeinc, Zentata
Hello ayenic I thought I was a tan observer
Ayeinc
No, you were a member of TAN.
Zentata
World Assembly - Security Council - Commend Candensia
Vote: For
Candensia has been a long-time and prolific issues writer, writing more then even some editors! They're also a helpful nation in the Got Issues forum, and someone that deserves to be recognized in ns, not just in the issues community. I'd encourage a vote for.
Ayeinc, Veaetmar, Monkelandd, Zeneslav, Banq, Hopal Ii
Well, one idea that was suggested was that we adopt Kingdom/Queen, for ease of use both in the region and out, but come up with a name for internal use, like how in Japan the Emperor is called Tennō but is called Emperor internationally (this is just for illustration, I'm not making a point about Empire or anything else, it's just to illustrate what I mean). We could adopt Caspian as the internal title but use Queen for ease of understanding both inside and outside the region. It's why I am in favour of Kingdom/Queen, it is simple and not ostentatious, has no specific historical connotation that is worrying and allows us the opportunity for internal customization.
I apologize for taking time to address this concern, I've been battling food poisoning.
Ultimately speaking, after a long period considering and discussing the matter, it was felt that this was the best and fairest way to conduct this poll while a)working in the confines of NationStates, b)working within our Constitutional guidelines and c)keeping in mind that we already have a legislative backlog, including 2 matters that do not involve us alone. Other options were discussed, from telegram voting (which was discarded because it would disenfranchise a large number of our citizens, potentially lead to a number of votes being lost because of limited inbox space for NationStates and because there was no Constitutional framework for such a method) to discord voting (which was discarded because it would disenfranchise our voters who are not present on the Discord and because there was no Constitutional framework for it) to a tiered voting system or elimination voting system (which was discarded because it would take a large amount of time for a limited benefit, considering our legislative backlog, and because there was a question to the Constitutional legality we did not want to consider at this time).
I understand your feelings but given the full context we truly felt that this was the fairest and best way to conduct the poll legally speaking. If you would like to raise this issue at a later date to come to a legal solution that would not cause more issues than it fixes, I would be more then open to that. I hope you understand where I'm coming from and I hope you have a good day.
The United Nations Of Kvenland, Czech Germania, Nationific, Ayeinc, Zentata, Monkelandd, Kalderisara
oog. That's not good. I hope you feel better soon, I know that food poisoning is horrible.
Czech Germania, Nationific, Ayeinc, Toerana Vii, Monkelandd, El Hierro, Hopal Ii
Um... you forgot about me
Nationific, Ayeinc, Zentata
I am still but I am not listed
I thought you said that you were leaving this region though? I'm just trying to clarify, but if you still want to rp, why did you leave this region?
Ayeinc
You were a member of TAN. Talk with Culture if you still want to role play.
Sorry about that!
Zentata
I don't understand how the voting goes or is it that my nation is not qualified to vote
Yaldian Territories, Zentata, Portugal And Great Britannia
Only WA members may vote. To join the WA, attach an email to your account, go to the World Assembly page, and click the button to join. Check your email, click the link, and then you can fully participate.
Yaldian Territories, Ayeinc, Zentata, Portugal And Great Britannia
Zentata, Monkelandd, Portugal And Great Britannia
Zentata
What do you mean?
Zentata
You need a email hooked up to your ns account, which can be done in settings.
Yaldian Territories, Ayeinc
Hi
Good night
I'm new um the region
My name is Rosa Maria, from Portugal
Thanks
Ayeinc, Toerana Vii, Zentata, Monkelandd, Portugal And Great Britannia, Kalderisara, The Colony Of The Holy Land Of Germania
Yeah I get it. Im not a fan of the current system but its not such a huge transgression that itd break the game or something for not having be available.
As for a legal solution, the best way to fix it is for NS to implement multiple options voting but such a matter is out of our hands.
There are some gameplay aspects of NS that I simply cant (and dont) participate in (yet), so its not like Im speaking as a fully integrated member anyway.
Seeing kingdom and queen from now on is gonna look incredibly lame (for many people including me) every time I visit the homepage, but its not like anything really changed.
Mornicoder, Ayeinc, Zentata, Monkelandd, Tirr Savattstra
Hey I am new here
Ayeinc, Zentata, Monkelandd, Tirr Savattstra, Kalderisara
Welcome.
What brings you to Thalassia?
Ayeinc, Zentata, The Colony Of The Holy Land Of Germania, Vay Leir Nor Bearkinga
Welcome to Thalassia!
Ayeinc, Maxilains, Vay Leir Nor Bearkinga
Thank you. My son plays and wanted me to join as an activity we can do together. Happy to be here
The United Nations Of Kvenland, Ayeinc, Portugal And Great Britannia, Zeneslav, Banq, Tirr Savattstra, Maxilains, Kalderisara, The Colony Of The Holy Land Of Germania
Welcome then.
I hope you enjoy the game
Ayeinc, Zentata, Maxilains, The Colony Of The Holy Land Of Germania
Welcome, I hope you enjoy yourself.
Ayeinc, Zentata, Portugal And Great Britannia, Maxilains
Welcome!
Ayeinc, Zentata, Portugal And Great Britannia, Maxilains, Vay Leir Nor Bearkinga
In case you didn't notice, we now have the vote recommendations on the WFE, with the full rmb posts linked!
Liruslau, Ayeinc, Maxilains, Vay Leir Nor Bearkinga
I am partly in the region. I will be less active but I still want to participate! Also the region I am in seems like a better fit for me, les people and a cool role play system!
Nationific, Toerana Vii, Zentata, Maxilains
RP
The German government does a nuclear test in the Zentatan sea to see what a nuke does underwater the only casualties are the sea life in the area that was vaporized instantly upon detonation.
Mornicoder, Nationific, Zentata, Maxilains, Esperanitia
Given the lack of true majority for any of the vote options, the vote should move into a second round, seeing the two top choices face off. Given that we aren't technically voting on a constitutional amendment, this is nothing more than an opinion poll, which means it isn't tied to the rules of a referendum. Seeing the two most popular choices compete would potentially allow for one to hit the 75% threshold for a constitutional amendment, and ensure that a majority of Thalassians are comfortable with the name chosen, within reason.
Would the "Constitutional Monarch" or Prime Minister be able to tell us whether they will be going with the most voted for answer, despite a lack of a majority, or do something else to try and obtain a majority for a choice.
The United Nations Of Kvenland, Nationific, Ayeinc, Zentata, Maxilains
RP
An Air Hopal flight leaving from Hopton has been bombed from the inside it is still unclear who the bombers were and what their intentions were. It seems no one has survived and an investigation has been launched to answer these questions.
Ayeinc, Zentata, The 3Nd German Republic, Maxilains
RP
Ayeinc is willing to send over investigators from the Ayeincian Transportation Safety Administration. Malin Dofei, former President of Ayeinc, has commented on the accident: "Attacks like these pierce the Thalassian soul, but the soul is strong and the soul will recover. I hope for a speedy investigation to find these despicable perpetrators. Godspeed Hopal II."
Zentata, Maxilains, Hopal Ii
I was tired of the region where I was,
So I preferred to try something new.
I'm a girl who likes to try new things
Nationific, Arenado, Portugal And Great Britannia, Maxilains, Hopal Ii
RP
Nationific strongly condemns the incident in Hopal II.
"Such attacks on civilians amount to nothing less than terrorism. As a nation which stands for the values of peace and justice, we cannot let such cowardly acts daunt us," said Nation Guy, President of Nationific.
The Ministry of Defense has decided to launch an open 'war' against these terrorists and will send a team of investigators to the site of the incident. It has also agreed to share Nationifician criminal data, a comprehensive list of all criminal activity including, but not limited to, names of international criminals, with the Governement of Hopal II, as per popular demand of the citizens of Nationific.
Ayeinc, Monkelandd, Maxilains, Hopal Ii
RP
In the morning a terrorist attack took place on the beach in
Hatuey-Orontoy. The bomber, Alan Alderweilerd, blew himself up
in a luxury housing estate with detached houses on the beach 2
kilometers away from Hatuey-Orontoy. The government is trying
to show where the bomber took the weapon because no citizen in
Maxilains can legally buy or possess it.
Nationific
RP
If it is OK with the Maxilians government, the Hopalian government would like to help in the investigation and see if there was any connection between that attack and the airplane attack.
Also a memorial for all the victims of the attack will take place tomorrow morning.
Nationific, Ayeinc, Monkelandd, Maxilains
RP
The Maxilains government will gladly accept the offer of help.
We can provide helicopter transport to the scene for 25 specialists etc..
Ayeinc, Hopal Ii
RP
The Hopalian government can now confirm the Air Hopal flight 21 was heading from Hopton to Hatuey-Orontoy in Maxilains all 206 passengers are presumed dead.
Nationific, Ayeinc, Maxilains
RP
The Nationifician MoD is running a scan on the database for Alan Alderweilerd. Preliminary results suggest that he got his weapons from an infamous drug dealer who has numerous bank accounts in Nationific, but his current place of residence is not known.
Ooc: Do you have RP stats for Hopal Ii? If not, just send a tg to Czech Germania asking for them.
Maxilains
Hello, everyone! I know officially declare the poll for the title of our Region and the Founder closed. The official results are as follows:
Results
Kingdom/Queen: 12 votes
Democratic Kingdom/Royal Queen our Protector: 11 votes
Principality/Timeless Guardian: 1 vote
Free Realm/Lord Protector: 1 vote
Free Realm/Caspian: 5 votes
With that I declare Kingdom/Queen as the winner! Thank you all for voting and Semper Thalassia!
Liruslau, Nationific, Ayeinc, Owl Archipelago, Zentata, Portugal And Great Britannia
Semper the Kingdom of Thalassia! Long live Queen Sho!
The United Nations Of Kvenland, Liruslau, Owl Archipelago, Zentata, Arenado, Portugal And Great Britannia, Banq
https://youtu.be/I8KSAtos-dk
Long live the Queen!
Ayeinc, Zentata
I guess that answered that question
Nationific, Veaetmar, Zentata
RP
A major Casino was bombed with the bomber yelling "Death to capitalizm! Long Live Comunnism" After the blast. 56 people were killed including 6 senators.
Zentata, Monkelandd, Maxilains
RP
Ayeinc offers its condolences to the family of the victims in today's bombings in Coalandia and Maxilains. Ayeinc is willing to send more ATSA agents to both countries.
Zentata, Maxilains
RP
We been able to confirm Justice John Miguel has died in the plane attack. He was beginning a diplomatic mission to promote free trade, justice, socialism and more. One of his stops was in Ayeinc to promote Hopal's inclusion in T.A.N. Miguel though was one of the more moderate socialists who strongly supported Jack Nicholls and Harrison Reid and Miguel could have been a target for hardcore communists. Jack Nicholls announced the release of a commemerative 1 tong coin would come out on Monday the day after the funeral in Hopton which everyone is invited. The investigation has revealed 2 possible suspects Kamry Ulok who was reportedly part of the anarcho-communist march to Hopton though this can't be confirmed and also was acting suspiciously at the airport. The other suspect is Alexander Rawabi an outspoken critic of the Hopalian government and T.A.N. who has connections with Hopal's enemies.
Ayeinc, Zentata, Monkelandd, Tirr Savattstra, Maxilains
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