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Hey, everyone, how are y'all doing? Hope you have a great weekend!

Nationific, Ayeinc, Zentata, Portugal And Great Britannia, Maxilains

Post self-deleted by Arenado.

Arenado wrote:Hey, everyone, how are y'all doing? Hope you have a great weekend!

I'm doing quite well, thanks!

Maxilains

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Zentata, Maxilains

Zentata wrote:World Assembly-General Assembly-On Marijuana

Vote: Against

While I believe that legalization is potentially a good thing, I have a serious issue with this proposal that I think makes my vote firmly against.

"MANDATES a full pardon shall be issued to individuals incriminated or incarcerated for marijuana and marijuana related paraphernalia;"

This is something I strongly disagree with. The individuals who are in jails for whatever marijuana crime they had, did something that was wrong. Even if it is no longer wrong, it was wrong when they did it, and so they had criminal intent, when they did it. Just because law abiding people can now take cannabis, does not mean that people who did so illegally can. This is a much-debated topic, so I encourage disscussion on the discord and RMB

Even if the law is a joke? I mean yeah, the perception of whether marijuana should be legal is always up to discussion, but I believe that it should be legalized after the age of 21. Lots of studies show that it is not as dangerous as alcohol or cigarettes to individuals health after the brain is fully developed, which is after 21 years. In my eyes, this makes the law 'stupid' for a lack of a better word. Laws are not meant to be broken, but some are outdated, based on flimsy research or prejudice. This means that sometimes we have to look at the bigger picture and forgive and forget.

Also, sometimes we have to compromise. Maybe this isn't the ideal proposal, but how long do we have to wait for it to get better? If ever?

My thoughts, cheers :)

Ayeinc, Zentata, Quark A, Maxilains

Narvara wrote:

snipped good argument

So, I can easily see where you're coming from. You're implying that if a law existed that said that no one can eat dried dates, even though dried dates are alright. So, when dried dates get legalized, all the people that ate them before should get out of prison, because all they did was eat dates.

(As a side note, this cannot be extrapolated to discriminatory laws that would discriminate agaisnt religions. Not being able to eat "dates" is not going to discriminate against a certain type of people. (unless you need to eat "dates" for your religion, but I find that unlikely) Not being able to eat dates is not going to hurt you, unlike laws that promote racism or religious discrimination.)

But. If you are a law abiding citizen, why didn't you fight to get "dates" legalized? Why didn't you follow the law? You knew that what you were doing was illegal, so why did you knowingly commit what was a crime at that time? If people cannot follow laws because they know that they might be repealed in the future and they can get a bargain, then democracy starts to crumble down.

Nationific, Narvara

This is just a question should I make zoos legal or not

Zentata

The Nordic Democracy wrote:This is just a question should I make zoos legal or not

It kind of messed me up when I illegalized them, so I'd keep em legal.

Zentata wrote:snipped, right back at ya

That's my exact point. To answer your counter-argument. The law - as stated before - could have been based on flimsy research amongst a lot of other things. In the case of marijuana, it comes from the lack of extensive research. Fighting to get it legalized would therefore at the time seem stupid and even if you believed that it was good, you still would have been in a democracy where the entire population or elected politicians decide the outcome. A general bad look on marijuana would sway most politicians if they had no research to back anything else up and a population is often swayed by media.

I do agree that people shouldn't break the law because they might think it could be repealed later on. I personally believe though, that most reasonable people would not jeopardize their freedom on the account that laws might change in the future. That is one hell of a risky bet if you ask me. Furthermore, pardoning people does not seem like regular practice and marijuana incarceration would not result in much more than a few years at best.

But you are making a super valid point. If it wasn't marijuana I might have voted 'Against' based on that argument. Definitely will next time. You've earned my respect Zentata :)

Ayeinc, Zentata

What are the best ways to grow my population

Zentata

The Nordic Democracy wrote:What are the best ways to grow my population

Wait. It grows over time at a steady rate.

Another Note for the WA Proposal

I'm going to quote from Morover here, because this is something I hadn't noticed at first " ...the phrasing of the clause makes it so that people who were picked up for charges relating to marijuana possession, but also had a more significant crime (such as unlawful homicide) would need to be pardoned as well, due to the terminology saying "a full pardon shall be issued" (emphasis mine) to people who have been charged with these marijuana-related charges."

Just something I thought was interesting. Also, some of the phrasing in the proposal is a little ambiguous, but that isn't really a large reason for why I'm voting against. Not to mention that you can have legal drugs and/or cannabis in your nation with or without this resolution.

And just to respond to Narvara. I can completely understand legalization at 21 and up (for cannabis). It's your choice, your problem. Of course, this resolution doesn't say anything about legal age, so I have to assume that babies could smoke weed.

Nationific, Ayeinc, The Lustrous Ones, Narvara

Which one should I prioritize the environment or my economy

Zentata

The Nordic Democracy wrote:Which one should I prioritize the environment or my economy

You can prioritize both

Zentata wrote:Snippity snip

Although I disagree with your conclusion that democracy will start to "crumble down" (sounds like a slippery slope argument here), there's not much I have to refute most of your questions... well except for one.

There seems to be a mismatch with the premise that people will break laws and the conclusion that they're expecting to be pardoned later on when the laws get repealed.

If something is still illegal during the time a person commits the illegal act and they get charged or arrested, it's unrealistic to expect them to be motivated solely by legalization for the following reasons.

1. It wouldn't be obvious or guaranteed to them WHEN it will be legal (or if it will ever be in their lifetimes), and I'm sure those who are desperate enough to smoke during illegal times aren't going to keep a long-term view. If the dates are close, most people would just wait (and if they don't, just hold them off until the day). If it's far away, it goes to point 2...

2. Even if you're absolutely sure it gets legalized later on, and say you get criminally charged with possession or usage or whatever, and it gets repealed after legalization, well you still lost a not-insignificant chunk of your time/life having to deal with legal consequences before getting released. As far as I see it, that's a net negative for you. If you waited, you wouldn't had to deal with legal consequences for 6 months-a year or however long before it was legal. How do you overall benefit from that decision? Getting a criminal record for a few months? Getting a temporary residency at your local prison? That's not going to motivate people to break en masse laws on the way out for its own sake.

It is kind of a bargain, yes. but the bargain goes from "lose 100 units of your life to this illegal action" to "lose ~10-40 units of your life to this illegal action". In exchange, you got to smoke some weed. Was it worth it? Not many would answer yes.

Personally I don't think I can change anyone's minds on anything, but I highly doubt anyone who ignores these points to "expect" some law to get repealed to actually have an effect on democracy breaking down at all.

Edit: by all means I'm not against people advocating against pardoning people for past offenses, (even though I support that clause), but I just don't think this is the right argument to make for it

Alaniztan, Ayeinc, Zentata

The Lustrous Ones wrote:snippety snipperoo the snip has struck you (snip)

Perhaps I exaggerated a little with that, and you're points do make sense. It must be said that people do use cannabis even though it's illegal and knowing that they will go to jail if caught, although they don't expect to be caught. Nevertheless, better to make it legal then smoke it when not, and make it legal properly. (aka not the current proposal)

The Lustrous Ones

The world assemblies just the UN but

actually does Things

Zentata, Renascia

My environment is basically nonexistent I don’t know what to do

Zentata, Renascia

Zentata wrote:You can prioritize both

How?

Zentata, Renascia

I changed my flag

Zentata, Renascia

Hello. ^^"

Zentata, Renascia

Antaria Of Craftland wrote:Hello. ^^"

Welcome to Thalassia! I'm Ayeinc, Vice-Delegate at your service.

Zentata, Antaria Of Craftland

When is the next election

Zentata, Renascia

Hy! How is everyone doing? I have contacted multiple flag designers in the past weeks, but none of them responded to me. Does anyone in this region design flags by any chance? I would like to have a custom flag for my nation.

Zentata

Renascia wrote:Hy! How is everyone doing? I have contacted multiple flag designers in the past weeks, but none of them responded to me. Does anyone in this region design flags by any chance? I would like to have a custom flag for my nation.

Just google what your looking for. There is billions of random cool flags all over the internet. There is also plenty of online sites that make it easy to design a flag.

Also would just like to give my opinion on the marijuana laws being voted on in the WA. I voted against because I think it is ridiculous for the WA to even attempt to infringe on the freedom of nations to decide for themselves wether or not certain drugs are illegal or legal. Member nations should be allowed to decide drug laws for themselves without intervention from the WA.

Zentata, Renascia

Zentata wrote:snip

That is true. I'm going to go ahead and change my stance, this proposal is not fleshed out enough. Thank you.

Zentata, Renascia

Renascia wrote:Hy! How is everyone doing? I have contacted multiple flag designers in the past weeks, but none of them responded to me. Does anyone in this region design flags by any chance? I would like to have a custom flag for my nation.

i do enjoy making flags for people, so if your intrested i could help

RP

Włodzisław Warcisław will be officially announced president tomorrow, while he prepares a speech, and the government shifts things over.

They current president will fill his position as lead of the Ground forces of yaldia

Zentata, Renascia

Yaldian Territories wrote:i do enjoy making flags for people, so if your intrested i could help

RP

Włodzisław Warcisław will be officially announced president tomorrow, while he prepares a speech, and the government shifts things over.

They current president will fill his position as lead of the Ground forces of yaldia

Tank you so much for the offer!! Can I telegram you what Im looking for in my flag?

Can You also send one or two flags that you have made ,so I can have examples of what you usually do?

Zentata

Renascia wrote:Tank you so much for the offer!! Can I telegram you what Im looking for in my flag?

yeah sure

Zentata, Renascia

Long live Freedom!

Long live the 25th of April!

Long live Portugal!

Tugaliza, Zentata, Renascia

Gentlemen, as you all know, there are different types of state. The socialist states, the capitalist states and the state we have reached. Now, on this solemn night, we are going to end the state we reached.

- Captain Salgueiro Maia (1944-1992), in the dawn of April 25th, 1974

Tugaliza, Zentata, Renascia

do we do role-plays on the discord or in Nation states

Zentata

The Nordic Democracy wrote:do we do role-plays on the discord or in Nation states

RP is in the RMB.

The Nordic Democracy wrote:do we do role-plays on the discord or in Nation states

We keep roleplaying on the Regional Message Board.

Zentata

I recommend voting against the marijuana act what I think it is doing is forcing Nations to do something that they could easily pick themselves and the people that are affected by this the people jailed for marijuana offensive know that they were breaking the law the all at the time and that should be punished correctly This is why I think you should vote against

The United Nations Of Kvenland, Zentata

Also even though I have marijuana legal in My nation does it mean observation should have it legalized I An pay people who commit crimes

Zentata

Greater Valaveria urges other nations to vote for the legalisation of marijuana, as a nation committed to allowing its citizens vast freedoms and civil liberties. Whereas I have gathered many nations take issue with the resolution mandating "a full pardon [to] be issued to individuals incriminated or incarcerated for marijuana and marijuana related paraphernalia," I believe that these people have served their time and their marijuana-related offences should be expunged.

The people who this would mainly impact are those who committed non-violent crimes and generally those from lower-socioeconomic backgrounds who would subsequently be disadvantaged with criminal records, thus inhibiting their ability to be effectively reintegrated back into society, such as in the workforce. Yes, these people did commit a crime at the time, but if this resolution passes, then it would then be found that nations would essentially no longer deem the actions they undertook as crimes - if I did a non-violent crime x then later x was legalised, should I continue to face repercussions for doing x? I would argue no.

Therefore the nation of Valaveria has voted for this resolution and would urge other nations to vote the same.

Alaniztan, Ayeinc, Veaetmar, Zentata

Greater Valaveria wrote:Greater Valaveria urges other nations to vote for the legalisation of marijuana, as a nation committed to allowing its citizens vast freedoms and civil liberties. Whereas I have gathered many nations take issue with the resolution mandating "a full pardon [to] be issued to individuals incriminated or incarcerated for marijuana and marijuana related paraphernalia," I believe that these people have served their time and their marijuana-related offences should be expunged.

The people who this would mainly impact are those who committed non-violent crimes and generally those from lower-socioeconomic backgrounds who would subsequently be disadvantaged with criminal records, thus inhibiting their ability to be effectively reintegrated back into society, such as in the workforce. Yes, these people did commit a crime at the time, but if this resolution passes, then it would then be found that nations would essentially no longer deem the actions they undertook as crimes - if I did a non-violent crime x then later x was legalised, should I continue to face repercussions for doing x? I would argue no.

Therefore the nation of Valaveria has voted for this resolution and would urge other nations to vote the same.

By voting for this you will set a precedent that the WA can decide laws for member nations. Do not give the WA so much power, stop this entire idea of the WA deciding such personal laws before things get worse. I myself plan on allowing marijuana in my nation once I am given the option but I do not believe other nations should be forced by the WA to do so.

The Lustrous Ones, Antaria Of Craftland

The Nordic Democracy wrote:snipperino

The United Nations Of Kvenland wrote:...Kripperino

Actually seeing more of these posts, you guys are right. I already made it legal, it doesn't really change things for me anyway but I certainly don't want to be outnumbered when an unfavourable resolution wants to screw up my country. Changing vote......

Edit: on another note, do you guys sometimes see issues where all the choices suck? Are there some issues that screw up your country no matter how you choose, and what happens when you ignore them?

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1 '5', 6 apostrophes, 2 commas, 1 period, 1 'u', 2 '1's, 5 spaces, 1 'a', 1'n', 1'd' 1 'h', 1 'w', and 1 's'.

The Lustrous Ones wrote:Actually seeing more of these posts, you guys are right. I already made it legal, it doesn't really change things for me anyway but I certainly don't want to be outnumbered when an unfavourable resolution wants to screw up my country. Changing vote......

Edit: on another note, do you guys sometimes see issues where all the choices suck? Are there some issues that screw up your country no matter how you choose, and what happens when you ignore them?

Firstly, glad to see that you changed your vote.

Secondly, yeah there is a lot of times where there is no good option. A lot of the time all options are to extreme or all the options are just different wordings on the same terrible solution. If there is no good option then just click ignore. Ignore doesn’t harm you in any way it just deletes the issue and keeps your nation exactly how it already was.

The Lustrous Ones

I go away for 12 and a half hours, and the RMB's turned into a political battlefield!! Makes me feel so under-informed and under-educated, seeing the quality of arguments that have come up. May I propose something? Our region has quite enough influence. Why don't we discuss a proposal, a better one for the marijuana one and then put it up for the whole wide world to view? I'm sure we could get it pushed through. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Narvara

The United Nations Of Kvenland wrote:Snip.

Greater Valaveria is committed to improving the rights of citizens worldwide and will fight for the universal working class!

Nationific wrote:Snip.

Interesting idea, what changes do you propose?

Nationific

Nationific wrote:I go away for 12 and a half hours, and the RMB's turned into a political battlefield!! Makes me feel so under-informed and under-educated, seeing the quality of arguments that have come up. May I propose something? Our region has quite enough influence. Why don't we discuss a proposal, a better one for the marijuana one and then put it up for the whole wide world to view? I'm sure we could get it pushed through. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I don’t see a need to propose anything new relating to marijuana. Nations should decide laws on marijuana for themselves and should not have the WA interfering with them. The WA should not decide such specific laws for independent nations.

Nationific, Yaldian Territories, The Lustrous Ones, Maxilains, Antaria Of Craftland

[spoiler=Greater Valaveria]

Greater Valaveria wrote:Greater Valaveria is committed to improving the rights of citizens worldwide and will fight for the universal working class!

Interesting idea, what changes do you propose?

First of all, legalise marijuana

An unambiguous statement which asks for review of all marijuana related cases. A full pardon is filled with loopholes, as pointed out earlier and letting people stay in prison after the law has been passed is downright unlawful. I'd propose reviewing all judgement related to marijuana related crimes and pardoning those who did not commit any crime while under it's influence. But I'd prefer drug dealers to remain locked up, because I guess it's illegal to sell illegal things. That is criminal intent. I also should not demand full reparation for people incarcerated for marijuana related 'crimes' because an individual surely knows the law and hence, has broken the law in doing so. While they shall be put out of prison, they shouldn't be 'compensated'. And... The rest of the current resolution is all right. [/spoiler]

[spoiler=The United Nations Of Kvenland]

The United Nations Of Kvenland wrote:I don’t see a need to propose anything new relating to marijuana. Nations should decide laws on marijuana for themselves and should not have the WA interfering with them. The WA should not decide such specific laws for independent nations.

While I agree it doesn't have any specific reason to interfere with independent countries, I'd point out that the current resolution DID get through. Another thing, the resolution aims to improve civil rights worldwide. That surely is a necessary thing, so as to even undermine the autonomy of some States. The WA exists to pass laws which are not popular. But these laws have long term benefits. I know that's a very flimsy argument, but I haven't done much research. This is just a draft of a draft proposal. [/spoiler]

Maxilains, Greater Valaveria

Nationific wrote:

[spoiler=The United Nations Of Kvenland]While I agree it doesn't have any specific reason to interfere with independent countries, I'd point out that the current resolution DID get through. Another thing, the resolution aims to improve civil rights worldwide. That surely is a necessary thing, so as to even undermine the autonomy of some States. The WA exists to pass laws which are not popular. But these laws have long term benefits. I know that's a very flimsy argument, but I haven't done much research. This is just a draft of a draft proposal. [/spoiler]

Actually I can't believe I missed this. What was Thalassia's stance on the last resolution on forced sterilization? Are there some laws that can only be introduced and implemented through the WA? And what are many supporters' reasoning for supporting that resolution and rejecting this one?

Maxilains

Nationific wrote:snip

Sounds like a good idea. Would love to flesh out this proposal a little more and make it airtight.

Nationific, Maxilains

The Lustrous Ones wrote:Actually I can't believe I missed this. What was Thalassia's stance on the last resolution on forced sterilization? Are there some laws that can only be introduced and implemented through the WA? And what are many supporters' reasoning for supporting that resolution and rejecting this one?

1. Officially, Zentata voted For. And we all agree.

2. Nah. There are a ton of issues and almost every law can be passed by answering them. These are all known NS policies:

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=920115

3. One of the supporters said that Sterilisation is barbaric, hence, for that resolution . Another reason was that nobody wants to be sterilized by force. There are a plenty of reasons against the current resolution. It's all in the RMB. If I'm not wrong, there are 38 messages debating this resolution in the board. I can't copy all of 'em here, lol. I'd suggest you look at the GA and SC forum threads. You'd find whatever you need there. All resolutions, and debates on them are recorded there.

GA

SC

The WA archives of notable debates.

Llorens, The Lustrous Ones, Narvara, Maxilains

I have an idea let’s send a proposal that limits what countries can do with their environment and try and protect it

Nationific, Veaetmar, Zentata, Banq, Narvara

The Nordic Democracy wrote:I have an idea let’s send a proposal that limits what countries can do with their environment and try and protect it

Uh, I guess something to that effect has already been passed. It's hard keeping track of resolutions.

Zentata

Nationific wrote:Uh, I guess something to that effect has already been passed. It's hard keeping track of resolutions.

Yeah there’s like 428

Nationific, Zentata

The Nordic Democracy wrote:Yeah there’s like 428

I shared this on the Discord discussion but there seems to be an thematic index for passed resolutions - https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=29129941#p29129941

Nationific, Ayeinc, Zentata, Maxilains

Hi there

Ayeinc, Zentata, Portugal And Great Britannia, Narvara, Maxilains

RP

[spoiler=Wrong time and wrong place]

Planton City and the south of the District were hit by a Richter earthquake of 7.5 ant 06:00.Most affected by the earthquake were the bridges that connect the main part of Planton City to the eastern part, namely the Paradise Island.The southern part of the island was mostly damaged and lost power. As the bridges suffered major damage, the Planton City District government closed all bridges and communication will be established by sea via cargo ships.150 people were injured, while 2 were in critical condition.The second ground tremors were recorded at 08:30 with a Richter 5.6 magnitude, while low intensity earthquakes were recorded.Most citizens of all Clarkstan expressed their solidarity with Planton City residents.[/spoiler]

[spoiler=The B-20 is localized]

B-20 is localized, government officials said, the new number is 100, 80 in Planton City, 17 in Seva and 3 in Layton.The infection is localized in the south of the country and is under control, President Gavric said.Total number is 321 infected[/spoiler]

Maxilains

Leonile wrote:Hi there

Welcome to Thalassia!

Portugal And Great Britannia, Maxilains, Leonile

Leonile wrote:Hi there

Heyo! :)

Zentata, Portugal And Great Britannia, Leonile

Leonile wrote:Hi there

Hello!

Zentata, Portugal And Great Britannia, Leonile

Germanias news

The German government has finally defeated the terrorist group aimed at taking down the Commonwealth in the southeastern part after they were encircled in the small town of cornsworth. In other news, The German military is going to test one of its atomic bombs.

Nationific, Renascia, Maxilains

How are other WA members feeling about the "On Marijuana" measure currently in front of the body? While I'm not certain the populace of Libertin would be against legalization, it seems the bill is written to force legalization among nations whose populace believe differently.

Zentata

Personally, I feel that we could use the measure to check the effects of marijuana on the body, which could determine its effectivness.

Zentata

Libertin wrote:How are other WA members feeling about the "On Marijuana" measure currently in front of the body? While I'm not certain the populace of Libertin would be against legalization, it seems the bill is written to force legalization among nations whose populace believe differently.

I'm voting against, for many reasons stated above. It is, quite simply, a badly written bill.

Maxilains

Zentata wrote:I'm voting against, for many reasons stated above. It is, quite simply, a badly written bill.

And a year's experience tells me that we may expect to get a better proposal sometime in the not too near future :D

Zentata, Maxilains

Zentata wrote:I'm voting against, for many reasons stated above. It is, quite simply, a badly written bill.

I apologize for not seeing comments above. I try to scroll through the comments regularly, but when there are a hundred new comments (and most are just people saying "hi"), it becomes very difficult to find the pertinent conversation with a quick skim.

Nationific, Zentata, Portugal And Great Britannia, Holy Land Of Germania

Libertin wrote:I apologize for not seeing comments above. I try to scroll through the comments regularly, but when there are a hundred new comments (and most are just people saying "hi"), it becomes very difficult to find the pertinent conversation with a quick skim.

Yeah, I understand.

Portugal And Great Britannia

Hello, everyone, week 14 of the Sports RP is out! Best of luck to all teams!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1356343

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1356362

Also, I am going to have to collate the data from the season thus far just to double check if the win/loss numbers for all the teams are correct but this coming week I am going to be buried under a deluge of work so I am asking for a volunteer to assist with confirming the win/loss ration for all 21 teams. Fair warning, it is incredibly dull and tedious to check all 14 weeks for all 21 teams but I would be incredible grateful for the assistance and would be sure to show my appreciation! If you're interested feel free to message me here or on the discord. Thank you and I hope you all have a nice day!

Ayeinc, Veaetmar, Zentata

There goes my winning record. Ayeinc sad.

Toerana Iii, Nationific, Zentata, Arenado, Portugal And Great Britannia, Coalandia

RP

The Naturals have won only 1 out of 7 games. The citizens of Nationific are furious, while the team blames the [nation=long]Arenado[/nation] for match fixing.

Ooc: My team's views are definitely not MY views.

I DO NOT intend any offense to any one.

What are your views on the condemn resolution? It looks like a joke, and a good one at that. I'm gonna abstain. Global infrastructure's so broken that I cannot go and vote 😂😂

Ayeinc, Veaetmar, Zentata, Arenado, Coalandia

World Assembly-General Assembly-Condemn Deruuu

Vote: Against

I'm voting against this resolution because I believe that drew has done nothing to merit a condemnation, or a commendation. He accidentally made NS laggy, and accidentally threw off an update/raid. That does not merit, in my eyes, a condemnation. All he did was create a video. This resolution is going to condemn someone for something done accidentally that wasn't even that bad. Drew does not deserve this condemnation. Once he does something that is worthy of a condemnation, he can be condemned. As of this proposal, he has not.

Toerana Iii, Nationific, Yaldian Territories, Ayeinc, Veaetmar, Portugal And Great Britannia, The Lustrous Ones, Greater Valaveria

Zentata wrote:World Assembly-General Assembly-Condemn Deruuu

Vote: Against

I'm voting against this resolution because I believe that drew has done nothing to merit a condemnation, or a commendation. He accidentally made NS laggy, and accidentally threw off an update/raid. That does not merit, in my eyes, a condemnation. All he did was create a video. This resolution is going to condemn someone for something done accidentally that wasn't even that bad. Drew does not deserve this condemnation. Once he does something that is worthy of a condemnation, he can be condemned. As of this proposal, he has not.

Yeah. Would you look at the edited post above? 👆👆

Yaldian Territories, Zentata, Portugal And Great Britannia

I'd say that it's a semi-joke proposal. While we should all laugh once in a while, I'd like to see a joke proposal with some weight behind the words.

Nationific, Yaldian Territories, Portugal And Great Britannia

Ayeinc wrote:There goes my winning record. Ayeinc sad.

Just be like the Arenado Kings and avoid a winning record entirely, can't be sad about losing something you never had hahaha sob

The Taklamakan Desert, Yaldian Territories, Ayeinc, Veaetmar, Zentata

Zentata wrote:World Assembly-General Assembly-Condemn Deruuu

Vote: Against

I'm voting against this resolution because I believe that drew has done nothing to merit a condemnation, or a commendation. He accidentally made NS laggy, and accidentally threw off an update/raid. That does not merit, in my eyes, a condemnation. All he did was create a video. This resolution is going to condemn someone for something done accidentally that wasn't even that bad. Drew does not deserve this condemnation. Once he does something that is worthy of a condemnation, he can be condemned. As of this proposal, he has not.

I shall vote the same only because I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't vote against it. Without Drew's video I would still not know this game existed. And also he's a cool dude.

Yaldian Territories, Ayeinc, Zentata, Mikano, Maxilains, Greater Valaveria, Antaria Of Craftland

RP much stuff

[spoiler=news]

Son of the Constitutional Emperor of Yaldia, Klaudiusz Walerian was in a car crash in northern Astana.

The youngest son of Władek (the emporer) was greatly injured, along with his youngest son, in the crash. The other car involved's driver, a 50 year old man driving alone, was killed in the crash.

The new president has come into office, he immediatly has decided to lift the ban on smoking, and Cannabis. As illegal crime rates were only rising, and the president decided it would be the only option if he wanted to make yaldia more free. Instead discouragement is heavily promoted. As well as extensive research on the effects of Marijuana on mental health and medical practices. [/spoiler]

The president has announced his plans for the government so far, carrying on the previous president's plans to reduce tax rates when optional, due to the ridiculous 60% tax rates yaldians pay. He also plans on switching to a flat tax, with no higher taxation for the rich. Włodzisław Warcisław also plans to form international relations, that it has lacked to achieve recently.

He suggests an embassy with Nationific and Zentata as he feels they would be good first choices.

The Lustrous Ones wrote:I shall vote the same only because I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't vote against it. Without Drew's video I would still not know this game existed. And also he's a cool dude.

I gotta agree totally because I’m in the same boat. Besides, I know it’s meant to be a joke but it’s really not written too well!

The Lustrous Ones

Yaldian Territories wrote:RP much stuff

[spoiler=news]

Son of the Constitutional Emperor of Yaldia, Klaudiusz Walerian was in a car crash in northern Astana.

The youngest son of Władek (the emporer) was greatly injured, along with his youngest son, in the crash. The other car involved's driver, a 50 year old man driving alone, was killed in the crash.

The new president has come into office, he immediatly has decided to lift the ban on smoking, and Cannabis. As illegal crime rates were only rising, and the president decided it would be the only option if he wanted to make yaldia more free. Instead discouragement is heavily promoted. As well as extensive research on the effects of Marijuana on mental health and medical practices. [/spoiler]

The president has announced his plans for the government so far, carrying on the previous president's plans to reduce tax rates when optional, due to the ridiculous 60% tax rates yaldians pay. He also plans on switching to a flat tax, with no higher taxation for the rich. Włodzisław Warcisław also plans to form international relations, that it has lacked to achieve recently.

He suggests an embassy with Nationific and Zentata as he feels they would be good first choices.

RP:

A sunny day in Zylan. The MoFR, John Leyenar, is giving a press briefing outside of the Yarlaw.

"We have been seeking, over the past while, to expand relations with our friends in Thalassia. Without doubt, the cross-ministrial effort to create TAN has helped to achieve that, but even nations that are not part of that are still our friends. Happily, we have in fact recieved a embassy request from Yaldia. We are in progress with setting that up, and hopefully we can soon be building embassies on Yaldian Land. In other news, w--"

A Message to the Government of The Empire of Yentazen and of Yaldian Territories From John Leyenar

We would be happy to construct embassies with Yaldia (etc..). We hope that this can be the start of a good relationship, while putting our former disagreements behind us.

Yaldian Territories, The 3Nd German Republic, Narvara

Zentata wrote:RP:

A sunny day in Zylan. The MoFR, John Leyenar, is giving a press briefing outside of the Yarlaw.

"We have been seeking, over the past while, to expand relations with our friends in Thalassia. Without doubt, the cross-ministrial effort to create TAN has helped to achieve that, but even nations that are not part of that are still our friends. Happily, we have in fact recieved a embassy request from Yaldia. We are in progress with setting that up, and hopefully we can soon be building embassies on Yaldian Land. In other news, w--"

A Message to the Government of The Empire of Yentazen and of Yaldian Territories From John Leyenar

We would be happy to construct embassies with Yaldia (etc..). We hope that this can be the start of a good relationship, while putting our former disagreements behind us.

rp

The construction of an embassy has begun, and the president has said he looks forward to the nations' future.

Yaldian Territories wrote:RP much stuff

[spoiler=news]

Son of the Constitutional Emperor of Yaldia, Klaudiusz Walerian was in a car crash in northern Astana.

The youngest son of Władek (the emporer) was greatly injured, along with his youngest son, in the crash. The other car involved's driver, a 50 year old man driving alone, was killed in the crash.

The new president has come into office, he immediatly has decided to lift the ban on smoking, and Cannabis. As illegal crime rates were only rising, and the president decided it would be the only option if he wanted to make yaldia more free. Instead discouragement is heavily promoted. As well as extensive research on the effects of Marijuana on mental health and medical practices. [/spoiler]

The president has announced his plans for the government so far, carrying on the previous president's plans to reduce tax rates when optional, due to the ridiculous 60% tax rates yaldians pay. He also plans on switching to a flat tax, with no higher taxation for the rich. Włodzisław Warcisław also plans to form international relations, that it has lacked to achieve recently.

He suggests an embassy with Nationific and Zentata as he feels they would be good first choices.

RP

Nationific Ministry of External Affairs Dispatch

Nation Guy graciously accepts President Warcislaw's suggestion to form an embassy in Nationific. He looks forward to a fruitful relationship between the two nations.

Signed Nation Guy, President.

Albert Meyer, Minister of external Affairs.

Narvara

Hello, all! I am happy to announce that the Ministry of Culture has officially started a test run of its RP Rewards program. Please check out the RP Guide dispatch and read the newly added Rewards section to learn all about it. In short, the program is going to reward nations for role playing in a way that the Ministry of Culture wants them to. Maps A & B have also been updated, so if you requested a spot on the map, please do check the map section. If you requested very recently, you may have to wait till the next update to appear on the map. Thanks for reading!

Clarkstan, Liruslau, Toerana Iii, Yaldian Territories, Veaetmar, Portugal And Great Britannia, The 3Nd German Republic, The Lustrous Ones, Maxilains

Post by Northportugalinho And Britaninha suppressed by Arenado.

Northportugalinho And Britaninha

Hi,

How is everyone?

Nationific

Northportugalinho And Britaninha wrote:Hi,

How is everyone?

I’m okay, just reading the new RP rewards.

Nationific, Maxilains, Northportugalinho And Britaninha

The 3Nd German Republic wrote:I’m okay, just reading the new RP rewards.

Chap, it is a troll

Maxilains

Post by Northportugalinho And Britaninha suppressed by Arenado.

Northportugalinho And Britaninha

Portugal And Great Britannia wrote:Chap, it is a troll

Sorry mate.

Not this time

Portugal And Great Britannia wrote:Chap, it is a troll

Yeah now that I’m looking at the name I see what you see.

(remembers the onion commission and their onion nukes)

Nationific, Portugal And Great Britannia, Maxilains

The 3Nd German Republic wrote:I’m okay, just reading the new RP rewards.

I kind of like the RP rewards.

Zentata, Portugal And Great Britannia, The 3Nd German Republic, Maxilains

Owing to information I have received I have reason to believe that the nation I just ejected has engaged in trolling and harassing behavior against a citizen of our region and intends to continue such behavior. On my authority I have ejected them.

Czech Germania, Ayeinc, Sho, Zentata, Carlia, Portugal And Great Britannia, The 3Nd German Republic, Banq, Maxilains

Arenado wrote:Owing to information I have received I have reason to believe that the nation I just ejected has engaged in trolling and harassing behavior against a citizen of our region and intends to continue such behavior. On my authority I have ejected them.

He was.

That is the same person that has been trolling me ever since I came to NationStates.

Ayeinc, Zentata, Ofiussia, Maxilains

Post by Northportugalinho And Britaninha suppressed by Arenado.

Northportugalinho And Britaninha

Why i was ban?

I know it’s random but do you guys remember “ Greater Negaversa” it’s been dead for a while, because I wanted to say that was my account.

Nationific, Zentata, Portugal And Great Britannia

The 3Nd German Republic wrote:I know it’s random but do you guys remember “ Greater Negaversa” it’s been dead for a while, because I wanted to say that was my account.

Yeah, I remember them (or I guess you)! I always thought that it was sad that they CTE'ed

Nationific, Portugal And Great Britannia, The 3Nd German Republic

Zentata wrote:Yeah, I remember them (or I guess you)! I always thought that it was sad that they CTE'ed

It’s the great cycle of life, also what ever happened to my old trading partner what I can’t remember the name.

Their name started with A

Zentata

RP - Zentata

[spoiler=RP 1]

Zentata wrote:OOC NOTE: I am not an Autarky in RP. Being an Autarky was an issue answering accident. All other nation policies can be treated as canon, I think.

Letter to Magdalena Andersson From Jerry Strodhelm:

I thank you for your invitation, and I accept it with all due respect. Avalonia and Zentata seem to be two like-minded nations that can trade and collaborate for a fruitful future together. The regulations of TAN will need to be kept in consideration, although we see that there is likely to be no conflict. I will be proud to show you the many things that Zentata can give to Avalonia.

Ministry of the Economy, Amalijeshavn, Köbarnhavn, Avalonian Capital Region

Letter posted 15:18 from the High Ministry Office - International Mail, Direct Expedited

Dear Honorable Mr. Strondheim,

We in Avalonia are quite excited for your arrival and the no-doubt productive meeting we will have. My office has made preparations for your delegation to be accommodated at the Hôtel d'Buërge, in central Amalijesholm District, Köbarnhavn, in walking distance to both the Royal Palace and the Government Isles. We have also given word to our airlines that we are expecting a delegation headed by you, meaning you will be able to board any flight to Köbarnhavn when you are ready on an Avalonian Crown Carrier.

Additionally, my office has received a gift from one of the state industrial companies, Vålvö, so you will have at your disposal one Vålvö Xcs40 for when you are in Köbarnhavn.

Awaiting your arrival, and with hopes for safe travel,

Sincerely,

MmeM. Magdalena Andersson

Minister of the Economy

[nation=long]New Camelot of Avalonia[/nation][/spoiler]

[spoiler=RP 2]Vålvö Factory, Glasgå

Vera Yang walked through automatic glass doors into a fresh smelling assembly line room. With some workers in blue at machinery, she watched as the metal bodies of the ecautos floated down the assembly line, automated arms putting new parts in place. Smiling at the efficiency of the system, she walked further through the factory, until she reached the end of the assembly line. The new cars stood in a line, a quiet purr of a conveyor belt moving them down the room as even more rolled on. Taking an elevator up, Ms. Yang walked through a brightly lit hallway into a fitting inspection room. Two workers were inspecting the finishings on one of the recently finished cars. As Ms. Wang watched, they finished their inspection, and left the room to go onto another inspection. The door closed, and Ms. Wang walked in a circle around the car, admiring its Öresund Blue. The XC90 was the perfect family SUV and one of the safest ecautos out there. Stylish too, it had become a symbol of the 21st Century modern family mobility in Avalonia. The standards sold for 36.560,00 Æ, but the car Vera Yang looked at was the XC90 Excellence, with a upgraded interior making it even more luxurious. A different engine also made it an even more powerful car, and the much of the finishing was handmade. An artificially intelligent interface and concierge, with self-driving and assistive driving features, the 59.660,00Æ XC90E was a masterpiece of Avalonian Ecauto Design and Engineering, something Vera Yang was proud of.

As the President of Vålvö for a decade now, she had helped Vålvö become synonymous with safe, stylish, and premium vehicles. Regarded as a luxury-quality car maker that could cater to all people, Vålvö was a trusted brand in a nation where the people have extremely high expectations for ecauto makers regarding safety, environmental footprint, and design. Now, it was time to take Vålvö international, in the opinion of President Yang. There needed to be a high-quality electric vehicle company on global markets with the capacity to reach more and more consumers, and Yang's Vålvö was that company.

Returning to her office in the Glasgå Vålvö Production Plant, the flagship factory outside of the Suèditje Region, President Yang sent an official request to a potential partner with which Vålvö could create a great economic relationship.

To: The Economic Ministry of Zentata, and Business Communities

From: Vera Yang, President of the Vålvö Groupe

Hello,

My name is Vera Yang, and I am the President of the Vålvö Groupe, an international ecauto producer headquartered in Göteborgstad, Avalonia. When Avalonia outlawed cars using internal combustion engines, due to the environmental recklessness they pose, Vålvö lead the way to sustainable mohility. I believe Vålvö and its high-qaulity electric vehicles it produces are perfect for Zentata. Behind the Avalonian high-design, state of the art technology, cutting edge safety measures, and immaculate finishes of Vålvö cars are happy, healthy, and well-treated unionized workers, and a large environmental protection infrastructure within the company. I invite representatives from your union to come, see our ecautos, our factories, and discuss the future of Zentata-Vålvö relations.

Sincerely,

Vera Yang

President, Vålvö Groupe[/spoiler]

Nationific, Yaldian Territories, Ayeinc, The 3Nd German Republic, Maxilains

Arenado wrote:Owing to information I have received I have reason to believe that the nation I just ejected has engaged in trolling and harassing behavior against a citizen of our region and intends to continue such behavior. On my authority I have ejected them.

Why? You really believe that?

Zentata, Maxilains

Igreja Catolica Portuguesa wrote:Why? You really believe that?

Yes, I do.

Nationific, Yaldian Territories, Ayeinc, Zentata, Portugal And Great Britannia

Apologies for the double post, I have reason to believe that the nation I just banned is a puppet of the nation previously banned for evading moderation. As such, I have banned the puppet for the same reason.

Liruslau, Toerana Iii, Nationific, Yaldian Territories, Ayeinc, Zentata, Portugal And Great Britannia, The 3Nd German Republic, The Lustrous Ones

Seems likely, thank you Aren

Liruslau, Toerana Iii, Ayeinc, Zentata, Portugal And Great Britannia

Ministry of Foreign Affairs

(sorry for the double post)

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs is recruiting!

We are looking for new Junior Ambassadors to represent Thalassia abroad. This is a great way to take your first steps in Government!

If you are interested then read the dispatch below and send me a DM or telegram:

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1309307

Ayeinc, Zentata, Portugal And Great Britannia, Conklandi

The PM and DPM both double post, we've gone mad with power! muahahaha

Czech Germania, Toerana Iii, Ayeinc, Veaetmar, Sho, Zentata, Portugal And Great Britannia

Arenado wrote:The PM and DPM both double post, we've gone mad with power! muahahaha

This seems like we should proposal a referendum to recall you for such heinous crimes!

Czech Germania, Ayeinc, Veaetmar, Zentata, Arenado, Portugal And Great Britannia

Arenado wrote:The PM and DPM both double post, we've gone mad with power! muahahaha

And that was when Thalassia fell apart...

Czech Germania, Ayeinc, Zentata, Portugal And Great Britannia

Veaetmar wrote:And that was when Thalassia fell apart...

*pacifica flashbacks*

Ayeinc, Sauelsuesor, Zentata

Assembled with Dot's Region Saver.
Written by Refuge Isle.