Post Archive

Region: Thalassia

History

As for racism, I am absolutely against it.As for the police brutality in this case, which in your case in the US, a purge in the system or a rebellion should be made in order to expel white extremists from the institutions.It is not an easy job, it requires time and it requires laws.I mostly see racism at football games, it's horrible.

Police brutality in Ex Yugoslavia gave results (regardless of the fact that I am against one party system).Football hooligans appeared in our country in the early 80's,at first they made chaos on streets.The then police or militia in Yugoslavia began to act, before each football derby a group of plainclothes policemen would preventively beat one or more hooligans on the street.They sat at a football game like in a theater or cinema, calmly.There was no more chaos on the streets. Today, it is inconceivable for one policeman to disperse 40 of them, then it was possible.But at that time, no one was killed by the police, regardless of the fact that there were people among those hooligans who showed extremist tendencies.

What I want to say is that the apparatus of state power should exist within the limits of permissible behavior and not in the form of the master of life and death.

New Camelot Of Avalonia, The United Nations Of Kvenland, Nationific, Maxilains

killing someone and destroying private property aren't really comparable

Nationific, Monkelandd, Aulivuel, Maxilains

Yes they are: both are crimes.

Nationific, Maxilains, El Hierro, New Khalifa

This is my Election dispatch detailing the parties:

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1378448

Hope you like it!

Clarkstan, Laeden, The United Nations Of Kvenland, Ayeinc, Carlia

Monkelandd wrote:Snip

Good,shortly and precisely.

Monkelandd

Baltic Nrc wrote:burning building wont bring that man back

just like bombing Afghanistan didn't bring back twin towers.

And the more they destroy, the more likely it is that the army will be called. And Trump is not gonna negotiate with people that burn down buildings. And he already is ignorant.

They should have kept it peaceful because you don’t gain anything with ‘war’. You can only lose.

Laeden, Nationific, Monkelandd, Hopal Ii, New Khalifa

El Hierro wrote:And the more they destroy, the more likely it is that the army will be called. And Trump is not gonna negotiate with people that burn down buildings. And he already is ignorant.

They should have kept it peaceful because you don’t gain anything with ‘war’. You can only lose.

yeah everyone loses in war just someone loses the least

Mornicoder, Nationific, New Khalifa

Monkelandd wrote:This is my Election dispatch detailing the parties:

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1378448

Hope you like it!

Great job, buddy! Keep us informed about the elections in your country!

Nationific, Monkelandd

Laeden wrote:Great job, buddy! Keep us informed about the elections in your country!

Thanks new neighbour!

Laeden, Nationific

Post self-deleted by Conklandi.

Laeden wrote:Yes they are: both are crimes.

they're both crimes but they aren't very comparable...

Monkelandd, Oh My God It Is So Hard To Find A Name

Conklandi wrote:snip

50 Dollars per passenger?!I'm sorry, but this is extremely unrealistic. It can cost up to 43,180 dollars to send a bottle of water into space. Also, what is this space port? Also, it costs billions of dollars to make moon bases. If you've only got 20 million dollars, you're not going anywhere.

Nationific, Ayeinc, Monkelandd, Hopal Ii

Conklandi wrote:spacesnip

RP

Monkelandd sees the appeal of a passenger space program, but, unfortunately Conklandi's project is too ambitious. Monkelandd would, however, like to partner with Conklandi on manned research and lunar colonisation missions. Monkelandd is also interested in the formation of a joint space initiative with other nations in the region.

Nationific

RP

Regrets about the Conklandi Space Program

After Monkelandd's and Zentata's governments warned about the inability for Conklandi to achieve this project on the timescale, the government announces the postponement of the first manned flight to the original estimate of the next decade.

The Conklandi government, however, would announce the interest to collaborate with Monkelandd on scientific missions in space and would join the initiative.

Nationific, Monkelandd

RP

Nationific would like to assist Conklandi in all such missions, and would provide financial aid if required.

Ooc: Don't expect billions of dollars from me, lol

Monkelandd

Conklandi wrote:snip

RP

Monkelandd would love to welcome Conklandi and Nationific to the initiative

Ooc: someone make a name for it, quick!

Nationific

TSA (Thalassian Space Association)

Nationific, Monkelandd

About the pride trend, did you know that Taiwan is the first Asian country to legalize homosexual marrage?

The Judicial Yuan ruled that barring people of the same sex marrying each other was unconstitutional last May.

Nationific, Ayeinc, Sho, Monkelandd, Federated Commonwealth Of Selstville

Conklandi wrote:TSA (Thalassian Space Association)

If we ever get the TAN charter finished, would you join? There's a name for space exploration: Thalassian Space Exploration Program.

Ayeinc, Monkelandd

RP

The Conklandi government accepts the invitation to TAN.

Nationific

Conklandi wrote:TSA (Thalassian Space Association)

Maybe TANSA (Thalassian Assembly of Nations Space Association), since the TSA is already a thing

Monkelandd wrote:Maybe TANSA (Thalassian Assembly of Nations Space Association), since the TSA is already a thing

What about TSU (Thalassian Space Union)?

Nationific, Monkelandd

How about TSO (Thalassian Space Organization) or TNSA (Thalassian Nations Space Association)

Nationific, Monkelandd

TSU is shorter, hence easier to write. TANSA is TSEP, coz that sounds much more complicated and,well...

TSO is also fine by me

Monkelandd

Esslea wrote:Snip

Technically speaking, Israel is the first Asian country to recognize same-sex marriages. The catch is that they must be performed abroad. Taiwan is, however, the first Asian country to fully legalize same-sex marriage.

Nationific, Ayeinc, Monkelandd, Esslea

does anyone know why Epsilon was ejected?

Monkelandd wrote:does anyone know why Epsilon was ejected?

Looks like they were in breach of WA rules by having more then one WA Nation. You'd need to ask Sho for the exact reason though.

Nationific, Toerana Vii, Monkelandd, Portugal And Great Britannia

Esslea wrote:About the pride trend, did you know that Taiwan is the first Asian country to legalize homosexual marrage?

The Judicial Yuan ruled that barring people of the same sex marrying each other was unconstitutional last May.

Yes! If only more governments were open minded and not bound for conservatism.

Nationific, Ayeinc, Zentata, Monkelandd

El Hierro wrote:And the more they destroy, the more likely it is that the army will be called. And Trump is not gonna negotiate with people that burn down buildings. And he already is ignorant.

They should have kept it peaceful because you don’t gain anything with ‘war’. You can only lose.

In Boston, it was peaceful until the police began violence and white people (who were obviously not there to take part in the peaceful protests) began instigating more violence.

It is the same in many other cities, as protests are made violent by the police and by white supremacist instigators who know that it won’t be white people who suffer from the effect of violence in the protests.

Kelazi, Nationific, Monkelandd

Toerana Vii wrote:S2:

"(3) Both parties agree that the deployment of military forces on opposing sides, in a region that is not the home region nor possession of the other is not a violation of this treaty."

So we don't fight eachother except when we are allowed to fight eachother outside of each others controlled regions?

EDIT: - Before Wym gives me a text wall about how common this clause is in other agreements, I am aware of this, but it would take a drastic change of both Thalassian and Lazerene Military policy to make this a useful clause, although multiple parties have already explained the purpose of the clause.

S2"

"(2) Both parties pledge to not knowingly conspire to or raid or otherwise attack....."

If I am not mistaken, this is not correct English. I would have expected Legislation to be proof read before a discussion period is opened.

S5:

"(1) Both parties recognize the close relationship and friendship between them."

Surely this should be the preamble, I don't see how an entire clause is necessary when he Preamble states, "Desiring friendship between Lazarus and Thalassia, both parties hereby ratify this treaty."

Instead of the preamble stating that we "desire" friendship, it should clearly state that the purpose of this treaty is friendship.

S3:

If we are going to number the sub sections of section 5, it should at least be consistent and have done within Section 3 as well.

Sections 3 and 4 could be merged into "Cooperation", have seperate sections which only contain 1 clause each doesn't make a massive amount of sense to me when they could be relatively easily located in the same section.

Overall, I think it could be written much better, and I believe there has been a lack of care that went into the drafting process, leading to the multiple simple errors in the treaty itself.

Bump

The discussion period is coming to a close and this is yet to be answered

The United Nations Of Kvenland, Nationific, Monkelandd, New Khalifa

dear lord downtown houston is a god awful mess. and i live 30 minutes away.

Nationific

New Camelot Of Avalonia wrote:In Boston, it was peaceful until the police began violence and white people (who were obviously not there to take part in the peaceful protests) began instigating more violence.

It is the same in many other cities, as protests are made violent by the police and by white supremacist instigators who know that it won’t be white people who suffer from the effect of violence in the protests.

I can agree that it was mostly instigated by young white idiots, though there were some black instigators. However it was not instigated by secret white supremacy members or the police. It was instigated by dumb Antifa members. The police did not directly involve themselves until the protestors started burning business and assaulting police officers. Also white people are definitely suffering because of this. Many whites are having their business burned to the ground and being beaten in the streets. If what you mean is that this protest will give black people a bad name then I’d some what agree with you. Those people who choose not to look into it may have a worse opinion of black people but I’d argue that people who look at pictures of the protestors for more then 5 seconds will realize that a lot of them are white. Also I don’t think anyones dumb enough to blame black people as an entire race for the riots. The riots can not be blamed on an entire race of people.

Nationific, El Hierro, New Khalifa

Toerana Vii wrote:Bump

The discussion period is coming to a close and this is yet to be answered

I agree. Your concerns must be addressed.

The United Nations Of Kvenland, Toerana Vii, New Khalifa

Monkelandd wrote:does anyone know why Epsilon was ejected?

Zentata wrote:Looks like they were in breach of WA rules by having more then one WA Nation. You'd need to ask Sho for the exact reason though.

^ Breaking the site’s WA rules. It’s not an outright ban in this case, since it wasn’t used to double up their vote in Thalassia like in previous cases, but it’s still not tolerable given how many warnings people are given against doing so.

The United Nations Of Kvenland, Nationific, Ayeinc, Zentata, Monkelandd

Sho wrote:^ Breaking the site’s WA rules. It’s not an outright ban in this case, since it wasn’t used to double up their vote in Thalassia like in previous cases, but it’s still not tolerable given how many warnings people are given against doing so.

Alright sho, I have to say this to you.

Don’t suppress this right away, please read.

I noticed you blocked me from sending you Telegrams? Hmm, if your going to ignore me because of my opinion then hear this.

I agree with you on police brutality. We need to stop it, but we also need to stop those pesky white supremacists that cause the riots. They will do anything to a extreme degree and burn cities to rubble.

Hey, I am a Slav and a mix of Asian and these people hate my kind. Can’t you expand your donations to supporting victims of extreme police brutality and help the people that got their hometown burned by these very white supremacists?

Please. Do it for the Slavs. The Gypsies. The African Americans.

You are already doing it for the African Americans, but also why not for the Latinos? The asians? You know, everyone that is not a white person?

Not only police brutality ruined our cities, but that riots are harming our people that have a right to protest.

Laeden, Nationific, Portugal And Great Britannia, Hopal Ii, New Khalifa

Toerana Vii wrote:Bump

The discussion period is coming to a close and this is yet to be answered

Were your questions not answered on the discord? I saw you had a conversation about it there.

Toerana Vii

RP

[spoiler=Emergency state over,border's is open]Today, June 1, the state of emergency in the Federal Republic of Clarkstan was lifted,thus a victory over the B-20 pandemic was achieved. There were a total of 1,270 cases of infection, no new infections for 7 days, 210 active and 445 recovered.Borders have been opened and new tourist routes are being set up.The Ministry of Culture and Tourism is interested in establishing air communication as well as tourism with:

1. Zeneslav

2. Coalandia

3. Federated Commonwealth Of Selstville

4. Ayenic

5. Conklandi

6. Nationific

7. Veaetmar

8. Esslea[/spoiler]

Federated Commonwealth Of Selstville

The Final Sith Order wrote:Alright sho, I have to say this to you.

Don’t suppress this right away, please read.

I noticed you blocked me from sending you Telegrams? Hmm, if your going to ignore me because of my opinion then hear this.

I agree with you on police brutality. We need to stop it, but we also need to stop those pesky white supremacists that cause the riots. They will do anything to a extreme degree and burn cities to rubble.

Hey, I am a Slav and a mix of Asian and these people hate my kind. Can’t you expand your donations to supporting victims of extreme police brutality and help the people that got their hometown burned by these very white supremacists?

Please. Do it for the Slavs. The Gypsies. The African Americans.

You are already doing it for the African Americans, but also why not for the Latinos? The asians? You know, everyone that is not a white person?

Not only police brutality ruined our cities, but that riots are harming our people that have a right to protest.

The riots weren’t started by a secret underground white supremacy group. They were started by dangerous and violent Antifa members. Also I’ve gotta ask why don’t you wanna donate money to the white people who have had their business burned to the ground and have been beaten in the street for trying to defend them?

Nationific, New Khalifa

Post by The Final Sith Order suppressed by Sho.

The Final Sith Order

The United Nations Of Kvenland wrote:The riots weren’t started by a secret underground white supremacy group. They were started by dangerous and violent Antifa members. Also I’ve gotta ask why don’t you wanna donate money to the white people who have had their business burned to the ground and have been beaten in the street for trying to defend them?

Oh. Right. Forgot bout the Antifa.

But you got to know that it’s not groups that started it. Only a couple of extremists started it. They are both ANTIFA and White supremacists.

Now you sounding like one to me.

I will be here to answer to some replies, I am only here because I am correcting or something.

By the way, I don’t have that much freedom with my money.

Yeah, that’s not even remotely close to the energy of your telegrams. Don’t try to circumvent blocks, please.

Kelazi, Zentata

The United Nations Of Kvenland wrote:The riots weren’t started by a secret underground white supremacy group. They were started by dangerous and violent Antifa members.

Disclaimer: I am a Canadian so obviously I am not there and on the front lines and much of what I have heard are from Canadian news sources so you might get your sources elsewhere and also please don't take this personally I just thought I put in my input

Antifa members are very hard to define as it is not a solid organization so you can easily classify any protester as part of antifa so I hope you can see that peaceful protesters who just want justice not anarchy can be labeled as violent antifa members. While many people who classy themselves as part of antifa are often violent the majority of protesters are peaceful and the rioters are in the minority.

Also Kvenland you seem to be very defensive of white supremacists who are the reason things like the killing of George Floyd happens.

Laeden

The Final Sith Order wrote:Oh. Right. Forgot bout the Antifa.

But you got to know that it’s not groups that started it. Only a couple of extremists started it. They are both ANTIFA and White supremacists.

Now you sounding like one to me.

I will be here to answer to some replies, I am only here because I am correcting or something.

By the way, I don’t have that much freedom with my money.

Dude that is just plainly rude. You don’t know anything about me. You don’t know my political beliefs, my social beliefs, or my moral beliefs. Do not go and call me a white f*cking supremacy member. That is extremely rude to simply call someone a white supremacist simply because you disagree with them. Call me a white supremacist one more time and I’ll start calling you a nazi or commie. Do not demonize your opponent for no reason. Also it wasn’t a few extremists, it was started by many violent people who all wanted to riot.

Hopal Ii

When was I defensive of white supremacists? Do not try to claim things that aren’t happening. White supremacists can go burn in hell for all I care. You know who else can go burn in hell? The antifa members who started these riots.

Zentata

Anyone that starts name calling is going to get a time out, period.

We’re not going to start casually throwing around white supremacist, nazi, commie, or anything of that sort in what should be a constructive conversation. Y’all are better than that.

The United Nations Of Kvenland, Nationific, Veaetmar, Monkelandd, The 3Nd German Republic

Post by The Sith Hold suppressed by Sho.

The Sith Hold

What happened here?

My brother is mad because of this region.

What and why did it happen??

The United Nations Of Kvenland wrote:

Hopal Ii

When was I defensive of white supremacists? Do not try to claim things that aren’t happening. White supremacists can go burn in hell for all I care. You know who else can go burn in hell? The antifa members who started these riots.

I do agree that the people who are rioting they need to stop, they need to be arrested. All I am saying is that we can't call these people ANTIFA members as it isn't an organization which is also why we can't call it a terrorist organization. But rather since ANTIFA is a movement we should call them part of the ANTIFA movement. Not all rioters are part of the ANTIFA movement and not all the people part of the ANTIFA movement are rioting. So saying all of the rioters are part of the ANTIFA movement is wrong and this kind of labelling can lead to labelling peaceful protesters. And suddenly we are arresting peaceful protesters because they are suspected of being part of the ANTIFA movement when all they did was peacefully protest the killing of George Floyd.

Again I agree with you that we should denounce the ANTIFA movement for being violent and that we should arrest the rioters. But we really shouldn't be labelling people.

Monkelandd

Post by Yeetus Despacitotooo suppressed by Sho.

Yeetus Despacitotooo

hello fellow members

Who likes great memes???

Like who loves Roblox memes?

Also why is the RMB dark?

Ok dokey

L O C K E Y

Post by Yeetus Despacitotooo suppressed by Sho.

Yeetus Despacitotooo

Hello? Anybody there?

Please don’t double post.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1260641

Monkelandd, Portugal And Great Britannia

Post by Yeetus Despacitotooo suppressed by Sho.

Yeetus Despacitotooo

Sho wrote:Please don’t double post.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1260641

ok dokey.

I got to ask though, there is someone I know and he texted me that he doesn’t like this region. He claimed he got kicked for no reason at all. But I think he is just being an whiny kid. Can you tell me why so I can save my eyes from looking at such whiny comments? He is very annoying.

I think he got kicked for a reason.

Yeetus Despacitotooo wrote:hello fellow members

Who likes great memes???

Like who loves Roblox memes?

Also why is the RMB dark?

Ok dokey

L O C K E Y

It's complicated. but i assure you it's not always like this.

Had a feeling it was you again. Goodbye.

Badivermeraed, Monkelandd, Portugal And Great Britannia, Zeneslav, Coalandia

[spoiler]

Hopal Ii wrote:I do agree that the people who are rioting they need to stop, they need to be arrested. All I am saying is that we can't call these people ANTIFA members as it isn't an organization which is also why we can't call it a terrorist organization. But rather since ANTIFA is a movement we should call them part of the ANTIFA movement. Not all rioters are part of the ANTIFA movement and not all the people part of the ANTIFA movement are rioting. So saying all of the rioters are part of the ANTIFA movement is wrong and this kind of labelling can lead to labelling peaceful protesters. And suddenly we are arresting peaceful protesters because they are suspected of being part of the ANTIFA movement when all they did was peacefully protest the killing of George Floyd.

Again I agree with you that we should denounce the ANTIFA movement for being violent and that we should arrest the rioters. But we really shouldn't be labelling people.

I can mostly agree with what your saying here but I have a few things I’d say.

Firstly, I wasn’t trying to label all the rioters or protestors as Antifa members. What I was saying is that the ones who instigated the violence within the riots we’re mostly Antifa members. Now that the violence has started more then just Anita members are taking part and there are still those that are trying to protest peacefully.

Also I’d just like to say that anyone who thinks it’s a good idea to go too one of the cities and try to protest peacefully. Do not try it! Those cities are dangerous places right now, it is not safe to be there. It doesn’t matter if your protesting peacefully you could very well end up getting hurt.

Also even though Antifa doesn’t have any full on leadership there are still many different cells of Antifa that work together and have leadership. They organize violent actions together all the time. I can agree that there is not a actual country wide Antifa group but there are definitely smaller groups that organize together and plan out attacks like terrorists.

Also people part of the “Antifa Movement” are not being peaceful. There are peaceful protestors but there are not peaceful Antifa members. Anyone who claims to be part of Antifa is most definitely one of the people destroying the city. Antifa is a violent and not at all peaceful movement. [/spoiler]

Sho, Monkelandd

The United Nations Of Kvenland wrote:snip

I agree with you on that

The United Nations Of Kvenland, Sho

Zentata wrote:Were your questions not answered on the discord? I saw you had a conversation about it there.

There was a short conversation yes, which touched upon one point. However, the legislation's author hasn't commented and I have already edited my original post to acknowledge that one of my issues has been discussed.

Everything else has gone unanswered

The United Nations Of Kvenland, Zentata, Monkelandd

Maybe we should just stop talking about this topic, I feel like it would be for the better

Laeden, Zentata, Monkelandd, New Khalifa

El Hierro wrote:Maybe we should just stop talking about this topic, I feel like it would be for the better

Why?

It is a subect that is in the order of the day

Zentata

Portugal And Great Britannia wrote:Why?

It is a subect that is in the order of the day

I get you, but it causes quite a lot of rule breaking. But this is just what I think, I'm not telling you to do anything.

Laeden, Zentata, Monkelandd, New Khalifa

Hey, for those who voted against restrictions on blood sports, why?

Zentata, Hopal Ii, New Khalifa

RP

Today the Prince and the Prime Minister toured the university district of Hopton.

[spoiler]

People line the streets as cars with the flags of Hopal and Kalderisara head towards the International Building. A newly built building to house foreign students as part of the student exchange program. A white gilded building 8 storeys high and the Prime Minister tells the Prince "We're going to need another storey." They enters what seems to be an office-room lobby but also a doctors office waiting room. A massive desk near the wall made out of marble in front of a wall that read The International Building. Beside it were two double doors that led to the massive library that contained book of all different sorts of languages. They walked through to the elevators and up onto the second floor. They entered a room that resembled a hotel room. Two twin beds with a table in the middle and two desks. With a window overlooking the campus a big park leading up to the grand library. Built by the Portuguese in 1906 before the abandoned Hopal in 1941 to redirect funds to the war effort. The Italians tried to colonize Hopal in late 1942 but they were chased off by the natives. No foreigners reached Hopal again until 2020.

They then walked over to the Hopal School of Medicine where hundreds waited for them to speak.

Prime Minister Jack Nicholls:"The Hopal School of Medicine has done many things over the past few years, just the latest endeavours being helping find a vaccine for B-20 and mass producing it and finding the cure and vaccine for Rubilon measles. Today I am glad to announce just the latest endeavour. But before that I have some sad news Hopal does not have a space organization and thus cannot directly help in the race to the moon. But we will continue to contribute to the Conklandi Fund and fund this mission too. But this our next great endeavour will be to find a treatment for cancer. It will not be easy but John F. Kennedy once said "We go to the moon not because it is easy but because it is hard" and much the same applies here. To be able to find a treatment for one of the leading causes of death will will be a massive feat. To find a treatment for cancer we have to understand cancer and to lead the charge against cancer will be Dr. Martin Jonson doctor and now former professor and probably future dean at/of the Hopal School of Medicine. Hopal will be investing 1.2 billion Tongs into this endeavour and asks of 500 million Tongs from the Conklandi Fund and 200 million Tongs from TAN. Dr Jonson and the Minister of Foreign Affairs Mr. Francis Irvin will be visiting Conklandi, Ayeinc, and Zentata to secure these funds and encourages all nations to join this endeavour."

[/spoiler]

Ayeinc, Zentata, Monkelandd, Kalderisara

Monkelandd wrote:Hey, for those who voted against restrictions on blood sports, why?

I voted against, and it was before the recommendation of voting for the restrictions... but it mostly was due to my personal opinion about the So-called "BLOOD SPORTS"

New Khalifa wrote:I voted against, and it was before the recommendation of voting for the restrictions... but it mostly was due to my personal opinion about the So-called "BLOOD SPORTS"

My recommendation is only a recommendation, not a requirement, to be clear. And what personal opinion? Do you enjoy seeing animals fight each other to the death?

Monkelandd, New Khalifa

My patience with the region and its government has run out.

It's been a fun ride.

Cya'll

"S2:

"(3) Both parties agree that the deployment of military forces on opposing sides, in a region that is not the home region nor possession of the other is not a violation of this treaty."

So we don't fight eachother except when we are allowed to fight eachother outside of each others controlled regions?

EDIT: - Before Wym gives me a text wall about how common this clause is in other agreements, I am aware of this, but it would take a drastic change of both Thalassian and Lazerene Military policy to make this a useful clause, although multiple parties have already explained the purpose of the clause."

Pretty standard language, we try and prepare for all possibilities, saying that it is not useful now or not probable to be useful later is not a reason not to include it. Better have it and not need it.

"S2"

"(2) Both parties pledge to not knowingly conspire to or raid or otherwise attack....."

If I am not mistaken, this is not correct English. I would have expected Legislation to be proof read before a discussion period is opened."

Seems fine to me, I understand it perfectly.

"S5:

"(1) Both parties recognize the close relationship and friendship between them."

Surely this should be the preamble, I don't see how an entire clause is necessary when he Preamble states, "Desiring friendship between Lazarus and Thalassia, both parties hereby ratify this treaty."

Instead of the preamble stating that we "desire" friendship, it should clearly state that the purpose of this treaty is friendship."

The preamble is simply a statement of that which we would like from this treaty, namely close friendship between our two regions, hence the clause on a declaration of friendship. At best, your argument is a style choice.

"S3:

If we are going to number the sub sections of section 5, it should at least be consistent and have done within Section 3 as well."

Typographical error easily solved.

"Sections 3 and 4 could be merged into "Cooperation", have seperate sections which only contain 1 clause each doesn't make a massive amount of sense to me when they could be relatively easily located in the same section."

Again, that's a choice in styles, if it makes no sense to you, well, ok, but it makes sense to me and it makes sense to Lazarus. Again, this is basically a difference in style, Toerana.

"Overall, I think it could be written much better, and I believe there has been a lack of care that went into the drafting process, leading to the multiple simple errors in the treaty itself."

Other then one typographical error I see no issues beyond the fact that you do not like the format of the treaty.

Veaetmar, Monkelandd

RP

Monkelandd wrote:RP

Monkelandd sees the appeal of a passenger space program, but, unfortunately Conklandi's project is too ambitious. Monkelandd would, however, like to partner with Conklandi on manned research and lunar colonisation missions. Monkelandd is also interested in the formation of a joint space initiative with other nations in the region.

The Consul of Laeden, Gaspard d'Albignac, showed particular interest in Conklandi's iniciative. Keenly interested in outer space, he always resented the underfunded laedenian space project for being unable to do more than sending a few satellites to the planet's orbit. Nonetheless, in social medias, he informally stated that he'd be more than interested in creating a joint iniciative with other countries to create an multinational organization for space travel and exploration. Laeden will be more than pleased to generously contribute to the organization with funds and personnel.

Monkelandd

Zentata wrote:My recommendation is only a recommendation, not a requirement, to be clear. And what personal opinion? Do you enjoy seeing animals fight each other to the death?

I enjoy ANY kind of fight

New Khalifa wrote:I enjoy ANY kind of fight

i agree

New Khalifa

Been fighting again, fellow nations?

Portugal And Great Britannia, Maxilains

RP

BAM News

Yesterday, the Monkeish Parliament and Senate were dissolved for the next 2 weeks, due to the Parliament and Senate election on 12 June. All parties went into a major campaign mode for the election, with the SDM leading in the polls. 'Alexandero Nassino is a popular figure in a crisis, as he was in the recession' said Helena Ganardi, chief political editor of the Moncecreta Prime.

OOC: Yay! I abolished my nation's curfew!

Laeden, Mornicoder, Nationific, Ayeinc, Zentata, Esslea, Maxilains

I am considering bringing my main Hopal back to Thalassia but I need some convincing firsts.

PS Did anyone notice I was gone.

Nationific, Zentata, Monkelandd, Portugal And Great Britannia, Maxilains, Kalderisara

Hopal Ii wrote:I am considering bringing my main Hopal back to Thalassia but I need some convincing firsts.

PS Did anyone notice I was gone.

Yes, we noticed that you left. And now you're back, using a puppet. Nothing wrong with that!

Nationific, Ayeinc, Monkelandd, Portugal And Great Britannia, Maxilains, Kalderisara

Zentata wrote:Yes, we noticed that you left. And now you're back, using a puppet. Nothing wrong with that!

Same goes for me, Charvilleii. I was an member from about a month ago, so hello everyone! Unfortunately, I will not be bringing my main back because I actually have a good thing going on in Charville's region.

Nationific, Zentata

RP

Progress in the Space Industry

The spaceport will be used to conduct the trial missions to space for Thalassian nations.

The Conklandi Fund has forecasted to increase to $1 million per month, which will increase the total to $26 million by the end of the year.

The Conklandi prime minister announces that they will visit the nations of Zentata, Esslea and Nationific to discuss investments in the respective nations.

Nationific, Esslea

It's really very simple, my dear. Don't be a fool.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=158774

Nationific, Maxilains

Auphelia wrote:It's really very simple, my dear. Don't be a fool.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=158774

Very simply speaking, no means yes when you know that no means no but you can persuade them to turn it to yes and it will be yes even if you don't think it will be since yes means no.

New Khalifa

Auphelia wrote:It's really very simple, my dear. Don't be a fool.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=158774

Grammar lesson ?

Nationific, New Khalifa

I am starting a petition to close the embassy with The South Pacific and to ban the condemned Auphelia.

Nationific, Yaldian Territories

Don't get worked up over harmless fun

Zentata

I don't get what's the point of this poll.

Nationific, Zentata

I have not yet spoke on the RMB in regards to the riots and racism. For perspective, I am a white male in a very rich part of the United States. However, I do not see a single white person defending the murderer. I absolutely hate racists, so neither do I. The death was absolutely the fault of the cop. He had already been handcuffed, but the cop still put his knee on his neck. I do truly believe that he did not try to kill Floyd. The cop already had 18 complaints filed against him, and should have been fired or possibly prosecuted long before. He may have not acted out of racism, and we will find out about this during his trial. I was in DC the other day, and there were looted stores everywhere. My friends’ pharmacy had even been raided. Was my friend a murderer? No. He was completely innocent, but he was still raided. At the Lincoln Memorial, there were many people protesting peacefully with signs, and I respected this. These are the people who actually care about George Floyd. I saw graffiti on a public bathroom saying “no more black bodies” and “stop f*****g killing us!” Whoever wrote this did have their voice heard, but now they are a criminal, just like the ex-cop. Just put down a sign. The looters are complete clowns. They are drawing out more cops, and just want free stuff. They do not care about George Floyd, only themselves. The riots are in no way justified. Today, I will be going to a civil war battlefield near my home to better understand the roots of modern day racism. One of my cousins is a prison guard in Oklahoma, and has not broke the cycle, as most of the black people he has ever seen are incarcerated. His brother is in the military, and knows the best and worst of everybody, and has broken the cycle. The riots are not going to help break the cycle. Only a mass effort and peaceful protests will do this. I hope sincerely that racists can disappear off this Earth. And sorry for the long post

Laeden, Nationific, Zentata, Monkelandd, Maxilains, Kalderisara, Hopal Ii

Banq wrote:snip

I agree, the peaceful protests are justified, and what happened in the DC church was horrific (tear gas for a photo op?). A lot of the looting feels like the 2011 London riots. sparked by police brutality, turned into a mass looting, involving innocent people having their property damaged. But the racism must stop, and violence, on either side is wrong.

Laeden, Nationific, Zentata, Banq, Kalderisara, Hopal Ii

It's a long time since i last update my foreign policy priorities.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=clarkstan/detail=factbook/id=1202293

Nationific, Ayeinc, Zentata, Monkelandd, Esslea

RP

Monkelandd accepts Clarkstan's foreign policy beliefs and wishes to create a path towards good relations.

Clarkstan, Nationific, Zentata

Monkelandd wrote:RP

Monkelandd accepts Clarkstan's foreign policy beliefs and wishes to create a path towards good relations.

RP

We gladly accept your offer to establish good relations with your country. We also hope that these relations will be beneficial for both countries.

Nationific, Monkelandd

RP

Prime Minister would like to visit Conklandi to formalize the student exchange program and Hopalian participation in the Conklandi Fund. He would also like to visit Monkelandd to formalize the student exchange program there. He would also like to visit Ayeinc to continue talks regarding Hopal joining TAN.

Nationific, Ayeinc, Zentata, Monkelandd

Post by Beautiful Ladies suppressed by a moderator.

RP

the nation of Baltic NRC wishes to ask if any other nations would like to join our technology sharing program.

The 3Nd German Republic

Hopal Ii wrote:visit snip

RP

Monkelandd would like to invite all nations mentioned in the dispatch below to Moncecreta on 6 June for an official signing ceremony for the university exchange program.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1379227

The 3Nd German Republic

Baltic Nrc wrote:RP

the nation of Baltic NRC wishes to ask if any other nations would like to join our technology sharing program.

RP

The 3rd German Republic would love to do technology sharing with the Baltic Nrc saying that it would help both nations.

Welp, I will update if anyone joins or anyone wants to send military student cadets

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_outer_union/detail=factbook/id=1382835

Veaetmar, Maxilains

Baltic Nrc wrote:RP



the nation of Baltic NRC wishes to ask if any other nations would like to join our technology sharing program.

RP

We would love to share our technology and invites Baltic NRC to join us in the fight against cancer.

The 3Nd German Republic wrote:RP

The 3rd German Republic would love to do technology sharing with the Baltic Nrc saying that it would help both nations.

RP

In the name of The Nomadic Peoples of

New Khalifa and Thinkinng on the country best interest we would feel honored to join this program in order to exchange advances on different technology researches if it's ok with every other other nation participating

The 3Nd German Republic

The Outer Union wrote:Welp, I will update if anyone joins or anyone wants to send military student cadets

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_outer_union/detail=factbook/id=1382835

RP

Baltic NRC would love to join your exchange

Maxilains

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1382944

here’s a log of some nuclear tests that my nation did.

Enjoy

Baltic Nrc wrote:Snip

RP

Kalderisara wishes to join the program.

RP

The Commonwealth of Selstville will initiate a mental health programme for its citizens. The nation also plans to export our psychiatrists to other nations to transfer expertise. If any nation is interested, do quote this message and your interest in this RMB. The Department of Health looks forward to expanding multilateral ties in the medical field.

-

Senator Kale Gleeson

Minister for Health, Selstville

The 3Nd German Republic

Baltic Nrc wrote:RP

Baltic NRC would love to join your exchange

The Outer Union will gladly exchange 10,000 students for the same amount

Anyone else is welcome to exchange students

Federated Commonwealth Of Selstville wrote:RP

The Commonwealth of Selstville will initiate a mental health programme for its citizens. The nation also plans to export our psychiatrists to other nations to transfer expertise. If any nation is interested, do quote this message and your interest in this RMB. The Department of Health looks forward to expanding multilateral ties in the medical field.

-

Senator Kale Gleeson

Minister for Health, Selstville

RP

The 3rd German Republic would love to join!

RP

The 3rd German Republic would love to join in the The Outer Union in it’s student exchange program.

Nationific

The 3Nd German Republic wrote:

RP

The 3rd German Republic would love to join in the The Outer Union in it’s student exchange program.

The Outer Union will gladly send 10,000 students to The 3Nd German Republic

Any other nations?

Clarkstan, Nationific, The 3Nd German Republic

The Outer Union wrote:The Outer Union will gladly send 10,000 students to The 3Nd German Republic

Any other nations?

rp

me please

RP

Monkelandd would love to join Baltic Nrc's technology-sharing program and a joint mental health program with Federated Commonwealth Of Selstville.

Nationific

Assembled with Dot's Region Saver.
Written by Refuge Isle.