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Map Of Civil War:

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=ozovia/detail=factbook/id=1306370

Clarkstan, Alaniztan

RP - Avalonia Offers Support to Khora and Malbat

The Avalonian Government has announced that should the Native nations of Khora and Malbat declare themselves independent and petition the international community for recognition as sovereign states, the Avalonian Government will recognize their sovereignty and will guarantee foreign aid to them for development.

The Avalonian Government requests that involved parties in the Ozovia conflict not include these two states in the conflict, as they are not responsible for the breakdown of Ozovian order, or the arrest of the Yaldian spies.

Ozovia

Clarkstan wrote:RP

Please, this does not work out when you do not have the instruments to condition it.Our proposal is far fairer than this one of yours, which only predicts one side winnings.

Cabinet of President

RP

If your proposal does not account for preventing Yaldia from bombing Ozovia it is not fair at all to the Ozovians being bombed. The first step towards any fair solution is preventing needless bloodshed. Alaniztan invites Clarkstan to help contribute to the no-fly zone if it truly wants a fair and peaceful resolution to the Ozovian crisis.

Rodrigo Varela - Chairman of the People's Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Ozovia

Alaniztan wrote:RP

If your proposal does not account for preventing Yaldia from bombing Ozovia it is not fair at all to the Ozovians being bombed. The first step towards any fair solution is preventing needless bloodshed. Alaniztan invites Clarkstan to help contribute to the no-fly zone if it truly wants a fair and peaceful resolution to the Ozovian crisis.

Rodrigo Varela - Chairman of the People's Ministry of Foreign Affairs

RP

Our agreement provides:

1. Ozovia lets the Yaldians go home

2. Then Yaldia has to withdraw the army from Ozovia.

With that, Ozovia gets our government's recognition.

If Yaldia breaks the agreement, then we will condemn them.

-Alisa Baikina,Press Secretary and Representative of President

Ozovia

Clarkstan wrote:RP

Our agreement provides:

1. Ozovia lets the Yaldians go home

2. Then Yaldia has to withdraw the army from Ozovia.

With that, Ozovia gets our government's recognition.

If Yaldia breaks the agreement, then we will condemn them.

-Alisa Baikina,Press Secretary and Representative of President

RP

The legitimate government of Ozovia had already agreed to both of these terms provided that Yaldia take the initiative of withdrawing it's troops first which we view as perfectly reasonable considering that this entire crisis was set off by the arrogance of Yaldian imperialism. Had Yaldia withdrawn earlier and agreed to fair elections monitored by the international community, Ozovia wouldn't have had any spies to capture even if it wanted to.

Rodrigo Varela - Chairman of the People's Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Alaniztan wrote:RP

The legitimate government of Ozovia had already agreed to both of these terms provided that Yaldia take the initiative of withdrawing it's troops first which we view as perfectly reasonable considering that this entire crisis was set off by the arrogance of Yaldian imperialism. Had Yaldia withdrawn earlier and agreed to fair elections monitored by the international community, Ozovia wouldn't have had any spies to capture even if it wanted to.

Rodrigo Varela - Chairman of the People's Ministry of Foreign Affairs

RP

I would not say much about the election in your place, but if Ozovia steps forward, the first gain will be recognition from us.Because by doing so, they will show that they are ready for peace. Because war is meaningless and arresting Yaldians citizens was an adventure.Both sides have a responsibility, but it has started with that arrest.I do not speak the past, to that. We are talking about the current situation, and Ozovia would have to release the citizens of Yaldia and the foreign army would withdraw.

Alisa Baikina,Press Secretary and Representative of President

RPYaldians drop on ratai

today of the course of 7 hours, ratai was bombed to the extreme, before having 10,000 troops dropped to secure the area.

Other attacks:

further bombing of military areas.

Bombing of government facilities

Bombing of NA airports

troops are also delivered to the provisional state

also ozovia ur map is goods

Ozovia

RP - Avalonia Supports Plan from Alaniztan, Ozovia

[spoiler]The Avalonian Government has announced that the terms from [nation=long]Ozovia[/nation] are the most in line with international norms due to the implications of sovereignty. The issue of the Yaldian conflict was that Yaldia leveraged war against a country in which Yaldian spies were arrested for activity that would be reasonably considered illegal. By any standards, this war and occupation is unjustified.

Although the status of Ozovian sovereignty within the pre-civil-war boundaries is not yet confirmed, the status of sovereignty outside of Ozovia is clear: If not the central government, Ozovian sovereignty is vested in the various Ozovian factions of the country. This is based on the principle that forms the foundation of international law: That within a sovereign state, sovereignty is absolute , does not expire, and can be passed down to different entities. Coupled with the Right to Self-Determination, the right of the different factions within Ozovia to administer their own justice undoubtedly trumps a right of an outside nation to invalidate or attempt to override the administration of that justice by those sovereign entities within Ozovian borders. In short, an outside nation cannot apply their own jurisdiction to or override the jurisdiction of the factions in the Ozovian civil war, based on international law and norms. Thus, in this instance, regardless of the question of Ozovian unity and legitimate governance, the actions that the Ozovian factions took to detain Yaldian spies is within their right to do so as inheritors of Ozovian sovereignty, and those actions do not warrant international consequence from an outside nation - in this case, Yaldian Territories.

If Thalassiia, and especially the United Organization of Thalassian Safety is truly dedicated to international norms and law, and the peace and stability that depend on their maintenance, it will support the Ozovian terms of a Yaldian withdrawal, as it is respectful of the question of sovereignty, and it does not disrupt international norms.

The Clarkstanian and Yaldian proposal of a return of the spies and a subsequent withdrawal is against international norms because it begins with a sovereign entity being coerced into an action by an illegal occupier, and therefore is an affront to the norms of sovereignty.

Instead, the Ozovian terms of a withdrawal of an occupation and the subsequent return of the spies is in line with international norms, and actively seeks to redress the violation of the norms of sovereignty and Ozovian absolute sovereignty by Yaldia. The subsequent return of the spies is therefore a relatively free action made by an entity with the power to do so, and administer its justice in the way it sees fit. These terms, from the Avalonian perspective, and through the lens of international norms and stability, are the best answer for this situation, which is already a regrettable course of action. In short, Ozovian terms restore the respect of sovereignty through ending the illegal occupation and return administration of justice back to Ozovian factions, which is a necessary step for international norms, and gives legitimacy to a subsequent Ozovian interpretation of justice through returning the spies.

If [nation=long]Yaldian Territories[/nation], and its supporters, truly believe in international peace and stability, the Ozovian terms must be agreed to, as they are in line with the rectification of the violations that Yaldia committed when it occupied another country in order to apply its own jurisdiction and interpretation of justice.[/spoiler]

Alaniztan, Ozovia

Clarkstan wrote:RP

I would not say much about the election in your place, but if Ozovia steps forward, the first gain will be recognition from us.Because by doing so, they will show that they are ready for peace. Because war is meaningless and arresting Yaldians citizens was an adventure.Both sides have a responsibility, but it has started with that arrest.I do not speak the past, to that. We are talking about the current situation, and Ozovia would have to release the citizens of Yaldia and the foreign army would withdraw.

Alisa Baikina,Press Secretary and Representative of President

We are not sure what you are implying but Alaniztan's institutions are democratic and fully supported by the Alaniztani people. The Yaldians arrested in Ozovia were not mere citizens they were spies. I imagine if Alaniztan were to send spies into Clarkstan and they were captured by Clarkstani security forces they would be arrested and tried for espionage. Would Alaniztan be justified in bombing Clarkstan to "secure the release of it's citizens"? Ozovia has been more than generous in accepting the proposition that the Yaldian intelligence operatives be allowed to return home on the more than fair condition that Yaldia end it's unwanted occupation, so it is Yaldia's turn to return the favor and withdraw its forces immediately. Ozovia by no means sparked the crisis as Ozovia never sent troops to occupy Yaldia and enforce it's own system of government on to the Yaldian people.

Rodrigo Varela - Chairman of the People's Ministry of Foreign Affairs

New Camelot Of Avalonia wrote:RP - Avalonia Supports Plan from Alaniztan, Ozovia

[spoiler]The Avalonian Government has announced that the terms from [nation=long]Ozovia[/nation] are the most in line with international norms due to the implications of sovereignty. The issue of the Yaldian conflict was that Yaldia leveraged war against a country in which Yaldian spies were arrested for activity that would be reasonably considered illegal. By any standards, this war and occupation is unjustified.

Although the status of Ozovian sovereignty within the pre-civil-war boundaries is not yet confirmed, the status of sovereignty outside of Ozovia is clear: If not the central government, Ozovian sovereignty is vested in the various Ozovian factions of the country. This is based on the principle that forms the foundation of international law: That within a sovereign state, sovereignty is absolute , does not expire, and can be passed down to different entities. Coupled with the Right to Self-Determination, the right of the different factions within Ozovia to administer their own justice undoubtedly trumps a right of an outside nation to invalidate or attempt to override the administration of that justice by those sovereign entities within Ozovian borders. In short, an outside nation cannot apply their own jurisdiction to or override the jurisdiction of the factions in the Ozovian civil war, based on international law and norms. Thus, in this instance, regardless of the question of Ozovian unity and legitimate governance, the actions that the Ozovian factions took to detain Yaldian spies is within their right to do so as inheritors of Ozovian sovereignty, and those actions do not warrant international consequence from an outside nation - in this case, Yaldian Territories.

If Thalassiia, and especially the United Organization of Thalassian Safety is truly dedicated to international norms and law, and the peace and stability that depend on their maintenance, it will support the Ozovian terms of a Yaldian withdrawal, as it is respectful of the question of sovereignty, and it does not disrupt international norms.

The Clarkstanian and Yaldian proposal of a return of the spies and a subsequent withdrawal is against international norms because it begins with a sovereign entity being coerced into an action by an illegal occupier, and therefore is an affront to the norms of sovereignty.

Instead, the Ozovian terms of a withdrawal of an occupation and the subsequent return of the spies is in line with international norms, and actively seeks to redress the violation of the norms of sovereignty and Ozovian absolute sovereignty by Yaldia. The subsequent return of the spies is therefore a relatively free action made by an entity with the power to do so, and administer its justice in the way it sees fit. These terms, from the Avalonian perspective, and through the lens of international norms and stability, are the best answer for this situation, which is already a regrettable course of action. In short, Ozovian terms restore the respect of sovereignty through ending the illegal occupation and return administration of justice back to Ozovian factions, which is a necessary step for international norms, and gives legitimacy to a subsequent Ozovian interpretation of justice through returning the spies.

If [nation=long]Yaldian Territories[/nation], and its supporters, truly believe in international peace and stability, the Ozovian terms must be agreed to, as they are in line with the rectification of the violations that Yaldia committed when it occupied another country in order to apply its own jurisdiction and interpretation of justice.[/spoiler]

RP

Mrs. Petterson or whoever. That's not how international norms are interpreted like you want, that's what I'm talking about as a PhD of Law.What you said is not true, Ozovia agreed to those terms.You have one thing to know, all people like you, leftists. They were against it not the whole country. The way you interpret international law is wrong. The war was stopped, but escalated by unlawful arrest by rebels.It is also illegal and believe me i know it better than you.When the provincial government came into force, peace came and when the red gang took over, a new war began.Thats a fact.

Luka Gavric,President of FR Clarkstan

Alaniztan

Autocracy is a democracy for you?You are a very strange nation.How will you stop the war when you do not have the power of Yaldia to stop it?You offer a peace plan when only one party recognizes it. This is not a contract, a contract is signed between the two parties.

-Alisa Baikina

Clarkstan wrote:RP

Mrs. Petterson or whoever. That's not how international norms are interpreted like you want, that's what I'm talking about as a PhD of Law.What you said is not true, Ozovia agreed to those terms.You have one thing to know, all people like you, leftists. They were against it not the whole country. The way you interpret international law is wrong. The war was stopped, but escalated by unlawful arrest by rebels.It is also illegal and believe me i know it better than you.When the provincial government came into force, peace came and when the red gang took over, a new war began.Thats a fact.

Luka Gavric,President of FR Clarkstan

RP

Mr. Gavric, PhD of Law,

Please elaborate. I hope you can rise to the occasion and string together sentences that make some sense in relation to each other. You stated, in multiple ways, that the way in which I "interpret international law is wrong", so pleas explain how exactly my interpretation was wrong, which was based on Westphalian sovereignty principles.

Additionally, for future communications with my office, please consider reading your statements before sending them to me, as I do not have time to piece together any kind of logical argument from that with which you (seemingly struggle to) provide me. And regarding the "unlawful arrest by rebels", consider the unlawful espionage committed by Yaldian spies. Such espionage adds to the escalation of foreign intervention made by Yaldia into a country in which a large amount of people clearly do not recognize the legitimacy of the illegal, non-consensual occupation.

Good Day.

Angela Renzi-Petersson,

Prime Minister of the Imperial Welfare Union of New Camelot of Avalonia

Currently questioning Clarkstanian membership in the UOTS, considering the obvious disdain for international norms and stability

Ozovia, Zentata

[spoiler=The Evacuation Of Ratai] With the seemingly unceasing barrage of the Yaldian bombings, the city of Ratai has been ordered to evacuate south, with the remaining citizens and government officials told to head for Byarobirsk in the southern hills.

In the meantime, the military would begin an organized retreat from the city, helping civilians on their path south.[/spoiler]

[spoiler=The Push East]Although the north has the Yaldians superior military sending back the Ozovian militias, in the far east, a military leader by the name of Vasily Kyrinsky has made a name for himself as a skilled commander. Organizing the easternmost pro-assembly forces, Kyrinsky delved deep into Provisional territory, sinking his talons into the Provisional army and driving them back across the Vasa river, only miles away from the Provincial heart of Kastov. Although his efforts to cross the river were slowed by the arrival of Yaldian troops, his control of nearly 60% of the east's industrial sectors has left the Provisional government weak and unable to produce enough supplies to continue supplying both the mountain and eastern fronts.[/spoiler]

[spoiler=The Native Republics]For over 200 years have the natives struggled against Ozovian occupation, the Khora even more so. Although many have aligned themselves with the assembly, the Khora and Malbat sought a more nationalistic pursuit and a neutral stance toward the war. However, this has not stopped them from reclaiming old territories. THe Khora, shortly after achieving some semblance of a state, launched an invasion of the far south, annexing the mostly Ozovian parts of the Bazin forests.

Far to the north, the Malpat have similarly used this opportunity to take large quantities of territory. And although it is historically Malbati, it is culturally Ozovian. However, since the initial annexation of these regions relations have been tense...but peaceful...until the southern Malbati declared independence, and were crushed by Provisional forces. In response, the Malbati government has begun a series of border skirmishes with Provisional forces, and have begun to claim land further south as rightful Malbati holdings. Although not escalating to full out war, the situation is precarious and the last thing the Provisional government needs is another enemy.

On the topic of recognition, although received with enthusiasm by the native populations, the governments remain too unstable to properly accept notions of recognition.[/spoiler]

Hello, how is everyone doing today?

Zentata

New Camelot Of Avalonia wrote:RP

Mr. Gavric, PhD of Law,

Please elaborate. I hope you can rise to the occasion and string together sentences that make some sense in relation to each other. You stated, in multiple ways, that the way in which I "interpret international law is wrong", so pleas explain how exactly my interpretation was wrong, which was based on Westphalian sovereignty principles.

Additionally, for future communications with my office, please consider reading your statements before sending them to me, as I do not have time to piece together any kind of logical argument from that with which you (seemingly struggle to) provide me. And regarding the "unlawful arrest by rebels", consider the unlawful espionage committed by Yaldian spies. Such espionage adds to the escalation of foreign intervention made by Yaldia into a country in which a large amount of people clearly do not recognize the legitimacy of the illegal, non-consensual occupation.

Good Day.

Angela Renzi-Petersson,

Prime Minister of the Imperial Welfare Union of New Camelot of Avalonia

Currently questioning Clarkstanian membership in the UOTS, considering the obvious disdain for international norms and stability

RP

Mrs. Peterson, you have no right to speak about sovereignty.Thats a statement of your foreign commission:

The Avalonian High Commission for Foreign Affairs encourages nations to recognize both the sovereign right to control internal affairs, and the right to comment on the affairs of other nations. The right to comment on another nation's internal affairs is a peaceful way to share how another nation's internal affairs are received internationally. We encourage all nations to exercise restraint when responding to international feedback when it takes the form of criticism. Another nation criticizing your country should initiate dialogue, not retaliation that interferes with the critical nation's internal affairs. In the interest of global peace and stability, we encourage all nations to let words be words, and respond to statements by foreign governments with a response in the form of a statement. Criticism is not an attack on your country, only a sample of how your country is received abroad.

By this you justify interfering in the internal affairs of another state.You interpreted Westphalian sovereignty as the greatest layman.

.And you have no power or legitimacy to consider our membership of UOTS.The provincial government was legal and when it existed there was peace. When the red came, the war began. You can dispute that as much as you want,but that's a fact.Thats it

All best.

Luka Gavric,President of FR Clarkstan

Clarkstan wrote:RP

Alaniztan

Autocracy is a democracy for you?You are a very strange nation.How will you stop the war when you do not have the power of Yaldia to stop it?You offer a peace plan when only one party recognizes it. This is not a contract, a contract is signed between the two parties.

-Alisa Baikina

RP

The people of Alaniztan know much more about their own political system than a foreigner. Alaniztan will do what it can to stop Yaldia from committing war crimes regardless and if Clarkstan can find the spine to stand for peace they are welcome to join us. Only one party recognizes the peace plan because Yaldia does not appear interested in peace at all. In that case it is up to the international community to insure that the sovereignty of Ozovia remains respected.

Rodrigo Varela - Chairman of the People's Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Don't know who to support this election, someone help me!!

Hello, my name is Arenado, I am one of the candidates for Prime Minister. I would be happy to answer any questions you might have, Sail Nation. Thank you for your time and have a nice day! :]

Toerana Iii

Greetings to all of you!

I'm endorsing Wiskawga to be our next Prime Minister, as I believe their experience(s) as Minister of Information and Minister of Security (even up to now!) as well as their ongoing participation and interest in Thalassian concerns make them more than qualified for the position. Moreover, their campaign focuses on transparency, diplomatic relations and the strengthening of every Thalassian's voice.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1305900

Ayeinc, Wiskawga, Monkelandd

Sail Nation wrote:Don't know who to support this election, someone help me!!

Well, you should look at the candidates' campaign dispatches. Also, a two-day campaigning period will commence today and it will include a debate, so maybe that will help you decide ;)

Toerana Iii, Ayeinc, Arenado, Monkelandd

Alaniztan wrote:RP

The people of Alaniztan know much more about their own political system than a foreigner. Alaniztan will do what it can to stop Yaldia from committing war crimes regardless and if Clarkstan can find the spine to stand for peace they are welcome to join us. Only one party recognizes the peace plan because Yaldia does not appear interested in peace at all. In that case it is up to the international community to insure that the sovereignty of Ozovia remains respected.

Rodrigo Varela - Chairman of the People's Ministry of Foreign Affairs

RP

Let's try to find a compromise solution, that is, one that will satisfy all three parties, the president is ready to participate in the conversation, but provided that these negotiations take place in your territory.Fair ?

Alisa Baikina,Press Secretary and Representative of President

RP

Cabinet Meeting Regarding Ozovia

[spoiler]

"Mister president, it would appear that that the Yaldian Territories has declared war on Ozovia." Says Secretary of Foreign Relations, Barbara Harrison, in a worried tone.

"What? But why would would Yaldia do something as drastic as declaring war like that." Asks Secretary of State, Austin Kingsley.

"From what I could understand it would appear that Ozovia captured Yaldian citizens and has, so far, refused to release them."

Answers Harrison in a heated tone.

"Now, now lets not just jump to conclusions." Says the Secretary of War, Ashton Lush, trying to calm the Cabinet members down. "It also says in that report Yaldia has also refused to remove their troops from Ozovian soil, which I see as an obstruction to Ozovia's freedom and democracy, so, as I see it, both sides are responsible."

"Enough, now is not the time for arguing, it is the time to make a decision." Says the President. "I believe that Yaldia should have removed their soldiers from Ozovia and let them decide what government they want, but I also believe that Ozovia should have released those prisoners to avoid this destruction."

"So, what shall we do sir?" Asks Lush in a calm tone.

"I believe we should aid Ozovia in this mater since from what I have seen and heard it would appear that Yaldia is trying to make Ozovia capitalistic when it would appear that they want a socialist economy, and in doing so, blocks Ozovia's right to representative democracy." Answers the President in an even tone. "I shall contact Ozovia's assembly to see what aid they would require from us, then I shall inform the people with a speech in a couple of days, meeting adjourned."

[/spoiler]

Clarkstan, Ozovia, Yaldian Territories

Post self-deleted by Zentata.

ELECTION - STAGE 2

Heyo, I just wanted to announce that the nomination/declaration stage of this PM election is over. We have four candidates - Arenado, Ashurg, Toerana Iii, and Wiskawga.

We're moving into the second stage of the PM election - the campaign stage. It will last two days, after which voting will commence.

Clarkstan, Toerana Iii, Ayeinc, Wiskawga, Sho, Arenado, Monkelandd, The Ausdonian Republic

Speaking of which! NSToday will be conducting polls! This is a pre-debate/interview poll, so there'll be one after that. Here's the poll

https://forms.gle/ybgHyRnTyPoUnffdA

Clarkstan, Wiskawga, Sho, Zentata, Arenado

I don't want to insult anyone.But i think Areando wil win ,because he have a simple  program for develop a region.But good luck to you all.

Liruslau, Toerana Iii, Wiskawga, Zentata, Arenado, The Ausdonian Republic

Thank you for the kind words, Clarkstan, I really appreciate it. :]

Clarkstan, Zentata

TO New Camelot Of Avalonia

From the Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Encryption Level 1

[spoiler=confidential]

We are overjoyed to hear that New Camelot Of Avalonia would like to increase relation with The Most Serene Republic, and will gladly share information about our country. We are a leftist, capitalist country that believes in progressive values with a 4 branch government. Our goals are to increase international relations, to develop trade, and to continue to foster peace and growth. We would be happy to allow visa-free entry to avalonian citizens and asylum, and to establish consulates and embassies.A annual summit, especially trade related, would be acceptable.

[/spoiler]

On a side note, how do debates work?

As we enter the third day of the Prime Ministerial election, I would just like to take a moment to express how immensely proud I am of those who have had the courage to stand and share their ideas on how to continue to foster the growth of our region. As someone who has stood in your shoes before, I know such a position is not easy and I hope to see your efforts bear the fruit you so desire.

I would also like to thank the candidates for keeping this a clean election and for conducting themselves with the class I believe our people deserve. As representatives of Thalassia on the world stage, maintaining the right disposition is important, and I hope you will continue to do us proud.

As a note to our citizens- please take the time to read the materials available to you from these candidates and put your best foot forward when voting opens. Choose the candidate you believe will work for you and will uphold the values you wish to see. Voting opens in two days- be sure to join the WA and vote to make your voice heard.

Clarkstan, Cormactopia Prime, Wymondham, Toerana Iii, Yaldian Territories, Badivermeraed, Ayeinc, Wiskawga, Rockiberg, Zentata, Arenado, United States Of Schiff, Carlia

I am happy to announce my pledges for our government if I am elected. Thank you for your time and I hope you all have a nice day!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1306643

Clarkstan, Wymondham, Toerana Iii, Wiskawga, Zentata, United States Of Schiff

Reminder of my campaign ^-^

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=toerana_iii/detail=factbook/id=1305841

Wymondham, Wiskawga, United States Of Schiff

Clarkstan wrote:RP

Let's try to find a compromise solution, that is, one that will satisfy all three parties, the president is ready to participate in the conversation, but provided that these negotiations take place in your territory.Fair ?

Alisa Baikina,Press Secretary and Representative of President

RP

We are more than willing to hold negotiations in order to find a compromise that will satisfy all parties. Although surprised, we take the offer to hold these negotiation in Alaniztan as a gesture of goodwill and would be honored to host them so long as all other parties consent. To clarify the three parties Clarkstan recognizes as directly involved in the conflict are the National Assembly government, the Senaz government and Yaldia.

Furthermore, we request that for the duration of the negotiations a cease fire be declared in Ozovia to prevent needless bloodshed. We hope that all parties can at least agree that turning Ozovia into a smoldering ruin is by far the worst outcome of the crisis. We propose that an international coalition be assembled to monitor the situation and insure fighting doesn't resume. Alaniztan is willing to contribute military forces to meet this aim, however in order to insure the cease fire is fair and impartial we formally invite Clarkstan to contribute alongside us and other peace seeking nations. As part of the cease fire we feel it would be a fair compromise that Yaldian forces are allowed to remain in Ozovia for now but must withdraw to regions still under the control of the Senaz government.

Rodrigo Varela - Chairman of the People's Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Clarkstan, Zentata

Badivermeraed wrote:Speaking of which! NSToday will be conducting polls! This is a pre-debate/interview poll, so there'll be one after that. Here's the poll

https://forms.gle/ybgHyRnTyPoUnffdA

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Wymondham, Yaldian Territories, Zentata, Arenado

rp

bombing has moved to byarobisk, bombing intensely in the governmnent area.

The yaldians build up there position in ratai, building fences around it and making sure any civilians left behind are given medical care. Heavy weapons are positionad around the city, and more troops and tanks are delivered.

The yaldians announce they will recognize the native areas, so long as they end there skirmishes immediatly and stay nuetral.

Vasily kyrinsky's army is also placed under intense bombing, dropping large explosives directly on the army, especially targeting the commander himself. They are bombed by a very large fleet of several hundredtraditional bombers, with the intention of completely disrupting his army.

while troop activity is low, many targets are constantly sprayed with bombs.

RP

The Government of Zentata harshly condemns the violence perpetrated by Yaldian Territories in Ozovia.

[spoiler=Mechanization]

Primitive and few in number, the Ozovian airforce was considered with the same regard as the navy, too weak to be utilized. However, with the indiscriminate bombings of civilian and industrial areas by the Yaldians, the Provisional Government's recent deployment of aircraft, the National Assembly has dusted off its old fighters and bombers. Numbering about 750 for the Yaldian side, the designs are nearly 35 years old but the General Staff has faith that it will not only decrease civilian deaths but also provide better aerial resistance against the Yaldians.

At the same time, an effort on the construction of new anti-air defenses has begun, arming both cities and remote areas with them to cause as much damage as possible to the Yaldian war effort.[/spoiler]

[spoiler=The Battle Of Ratai]With the Yaldian troops in Ratai being few in number, the National Assembly decided that the city could not fall into Yaldian hands, and an opportunity to take out 10,000 Yaldian troops would help hold off the Yaldian advance. Troops numbering 9,500 professional soldiers and over 10,000 militiamen would be gathered from the Provisional fronts nearby and lay siege to the destroyed city. Surrounded on all sides, outnumbered and cut off, the Yaldians would be hit hard in Ratai. After several days of bombardment and assault, the Assembly would offer the Ratai Yaldians the option to surrender.[/spoiler]

[spoiler=The Barilovich Mountains]With fortifications and tunnels scattered around the Barilovich mountains, the Assembly and Provisional sections would be fighting an intricate bunker to bunker war. With sizable amounts of each side's professional armies stationed in those mountains, a victory for either one would mean the availability of key professional soldiers in the fight. Although the Provisional Government has a far more stable presence there, the National Assembly has begun enlisting the local Otbasi people, promising them autonomy in exchange for helping eliminate the Provisional forces.[/spoiler]

Alaniztan, Zentata, The Ausdonian Republic

RP

To: Ozovia's National Assembly

From: The Ausdonian Republic

Encryption Level: 2

[spoiler]

We, the Ausdonian Republic, is willing to aid you with your war against Yaldia by sending munitions and more modernized military equipment, as well as professional military trainers to get your soldiers into better shape. For the time being we shall not send Ausdonian soldiers to Ozovia because the president has yet received confirmation by Congress to deploy troops, but we hope that it will not be needed. So, please, think of our offer and, if you agree, send an encoded message back.

Thank you,

~Barbara Harrison, Secretary of Foreign Relations

[/spoiler]

Zentata

RP

To: The Ausdonian Republic

From: The Ozovian National Assembly

Encryption Level: 1

[spoiler=Telegram]Your continued support during this struggle for freedom is much appreciated. Any modernized weaponry especially aircraft would be greatly appreciated and military trainers will greatly speed along the creation of militia's around the country.

With Gratitude,

~Anton Yakovich, Assembly Delegate[/spoiler]

The Ausdonian Republic

RP

To: Ozovia's National Assembly

From: The Ausdonian Republic

Encryption Level: 1

[spoiler]

We shall send 30 of our A-29 Super Tucanos, a swift attack plane, and 10 B-52 Stratofortresses, large bombardment planes, as well as professional military trainers immediately.

We thank you for accepting our offer this quickly.

~President Barfield

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Ozovia

RP

To: The Ausdonian Republic

From: The Ozovian National Assembly

Encryption Level: 1

[spoiler=Telegram]Thank you, If we may ask for one more thing. The true destruction from Yaldian bombing raids comes from their use of stealth planes and our airforce and defenses do not have the necessary tools to detect and shoot down these aircraft. However, if the Republic were to grant us access to Meter Wave Radar and meter wave-based firing controls, we would be able to effectively combat these planes...if such technology is available of course.

Sincerely,

~Anton Yakovich, Assembly Delegate[/spoiler]

The Ausdonian Republic

Hey, just wanted to drop this simple banner in support of Arenado's campaign. Feel free to use it as your banner if you also support his candicacy for PM! ;)

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1306873

You should also read his campaign dispatches!

Toerana Iii, Arenado

Thank you very much for the banner, Rocki! I really appreciate it.

RP

To: Ozovia's National Assembly

From: The Ausdonian Republic

Encryption Level: 1

[spoiler]

We shall send the requested equipment within the next shipment of munitions, which shall arrive in the next few days, but this equipment is expensive so we will ask that you use it wisely and sparingly since it is unlikely we'll be able to send more. We also are happy to announce that Congress has given permission to deploy troops, so we shall also be sending a small force of our Army and Air Force to assist you, if you accept the proposal of course.

Thank you,

~Secretary of War, Ashton Lush

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Ozovia

RP

[spoiler=Statement about Division of Ozovia and Separatist aspirations]

The Clarkstanian President said that Ozovia must be a united country and that any division was not good.He also stated that Clarkstan would not support the independence of Malbati State as well as Free Khora because that's a immoral

,,Any division in my opinion is dangerous for the region. We will have two countries that will not love each other and we will have many incidents that will turn into a new war.The state of Ozovia should be united, not divided. And this can only be done by strengthening democratic institutions and by equitable division of powers, textually speaking: legislative, executive and judicial.Independence of Free Khora and the Malbati State we wil not support because it is immoral.We are support the territorial integrity and sovereignty of the Ozovia.And it is very indicative that independence is supported by countries that have regions, one of which persistently says that the sovereignty of the country should be upheld.Unbelivable, absolutely states that have regions should to be restrained or against it. The only solution is a decentralized state with its constitutional and political framework which recognizes Khora and Malbati as two entities with large autonomous powers.One who calls for independence opens a pandora's box in Thalassia that can erupt.No foreign government should call for secession, but the same can happen to them, so they will hypocritically invoke the territorial integrity and sovereignty of their country.,,

He also said that he would then discuss the issues with The Ausdonian Republic and Alanzitan, who had come forward on Clarkstan's proposal to negotiate a peaceful settlement.

,,I told the secretary to get in touch with representatives of The Ausdonian Republic and Alanzitan. Let's hear their opinions as well. as they, together with the warring parties, are relevant to such a case.,,[/spoiler]

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[spoiler=The Ausdonian Republic]To:The Ausdonian Republic

Greetings,

I am Alisa Baikina ,press secretary ,assistant and representative of president.We have heard about your involvement in the civil war in Ozovia.We're not interested in whose side you're on, I just want to ask you a few questions:What is your solution to ending the war? Do you think the National Assembly should release the citizens of Yaldia.Do you support the integrity of Ozovia? Because there are states that plan to recognize Khora and Malbati as separate states.Thank's for patience and we are waiting for your respond.

Sincerely,

Alisa Baikina;Press Secretary, Assistant and Representative of President[/spoiler]

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[spoiler=Alaniztan]To:Alaniztan

Greetings,

We would like to know your position on separatist aspirations in Ozovia? The President has already stated his position on this.

Sincerely,

Alisa Baikina;Press Secretary, Assistant and Representative of President[/spoiler]

Alaniztan, Ozovia

RP

Ausdonian Responses To Clarkstan's Questions

[spoiler]

"We believe that to end this war Yaldia must recognize that Ozovia is its own nation and has the right to decide for itself what kind of nation it wants to be. Our solution to ending the war is to show that Ozovia is able to fight and defend itself against a large force such as Yaldia and, thus, showing other nations that they are their own sovereign nation. But, we also believe that after this conflict the Yaldian prisoners should be released. It was a pleasure answering your questions and hopefully put some of your fears at rest, but I must put an ending to this for the time being."

~Secretary of State, Austin Kingsley

[/spoiler]

Clarkstan

I just wanted to bump Wiskawga's campaign dispatch. Also, notice how Wisk's campaign is "Wiskawga for Thalassia" not "Wisk for PM" or "Wisk 2020". His campaign is about you, nothing more, nothing less.

Vote Wiskawga for Thalassia! on January 17th-20th!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1305900

Toerana Iii, Wiskawga, The Ausdonian Republic

Hey I’m happy to be here with all of you and I look forward to working with you

Clarkstan, Ozovia, Wiskawga

Welcome to Thalassia! https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1260744

Toerana Iii

RP

Statement from the Chairman on the situation in Ozovia

Chairman Marcos and his advisors watched the Clarkstanian President's speech attentively. It seemed Clarkstan stood on a very reasonable position regarding the future political organization of Ozovia. They too believed that one unified state which grants cultural, political and economic autonomy to minority nationalities and ethnicities would be best served to represent the wishes of the all Ozovians through democratic institutions created by the people, for the people. Following a communication from Clarkstan, the Chairman and his advisors agreed that Alaniztan must stand unwaveringly for what is right and against what is wrong and this position must be made clear to all. Chairman Marcos, with the President of the People's National Assembly on one side and the General Secretary of the Alaniztani Communist Party on the other, stood to make a televised speech at the Plaza of the Great February Revolution in Alangrad with the red and violet banner of Alaniztan fluttering proudly in the background.

[spoiler=speech]Comrades, friends, and allies, I stand here today to reiterate our support for a united Ozovia led by the National Assembly. To support separatism in the mist of a struggle for national liberation is at best blind idealism and at worst cynical opportunism in service of imperialism. Alaniztan stands in support of the rights of nationalities and ethnicities but we are also firm in our position that the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Ozovia must be respected. In Alaniztan's own revolution, we faced similar dilemmas in regards to questions of nationality and ethnicity but in the end many Isleñan and Tropican comrades fought alongside our cause understanding that if we did not stand together, we wouldn't be able to stand strong against forces of counterrevolution and imperialism and much less advance the construction of socialism. The peoples of Alaniztan stood up and. exposed those who falsely claimed to "fight for freedom" but really only cared for their own selfish interests and the return of the bourgeois tyranny. And today, Isleñans and Tropicans enjoy the same rights as any other Alaniztani citizen, national autonomy, and protection of cultural rights under our socialist constitution. Although we continue to believe that any nation's political system should first and foremost be shaped by it's own unique national conditions and recognize that Alaniztan is not Ozovia, we invite the people of Ozovia to critically examine the example laid out in Alaniztan and draw inspiration from it's success.[/spoiler]

The International Brigades

For some time since the outbreak of the Ozovian Civil War, the Comintern had called on Communist parties across Thalassia to raise funds in support of the Ratai government's struggle against it's reactionary foes. This effort although widespread would only have a minor impact on the overall situation although still providing the Ozovian National Assembly with a limited source of much needed funding to support the war effort. Frustrated with the perceived lack of commitment to proletarian internationalism from Alaniztan's and the communist world's official institutions, volunteers demanded to be allowed to fight in Ozovia for the National Assembly, some had fought in Alaniztan's revolution while others, born after it's triumph, had never lived the struggles of war, all however where driven by their strong ideals and beliefs in freedom, communism, and anti-imperialism. They called themselves the international brigades and in light of news reports on brutal Yaldian bombing campaigns they called on their comrades not just in Alaniztan but across Thalassia to join in the struggle and take a stand alongside the Ozovian worker. The Alaniztani government preferring to maintain stability at home decided to let the volunteers to make their way to war-torn Ozovia. While the Comintern not wanting to lose face, agreed to aid and help organize the volunteers. And so the first of the international brigades would begin to arrive in Ozovia.

Clarkstan, Ozovia

RP

The president has issued a statement to the press concerning the recent conflicts in Ozovia:

"We, the Ausdonian Republic, demand that the Yaldian Territories remove troops from Ozovia immediately or we shall use our military to aid in securing Ozovia's rightful sovereignty, then, and only then, will Ozovia release the Yaldian captives."

Clarkstan, Zentata

Greetings from Greater Mitarthand. Our country is always open to our foreign neighbors

Clarkstan, New Camelot Of Avalonia, Zentata

Greater Mitarthand wrote:Greetings from Greater Mitarthand. Our country is always open to our foreign neighbors

RP

Clarkstanian leadership is open for relations with your country also we are interesting in trade agreement with your nation.

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The Ausdonian Republic government is right, we have been proposing this since the beginning of the conflict. Release of prisoners, withdrawal of the military and the beginning of political dialogue.And come the International Brigade itself, Yaldians, be reasonable and accept what you have been offered or a general war will break out.Our interests coincide with the Ausdonian offer, we are committed all the time to let your people go, so do it. The only thing I will do is close the border even more tightly.I told you everything.

Luka Gavric,President of FR Clarkstan

The Ausdonian Republic, Callmedaddystratton

RP

USOS Ambassador to The Ausdonian Republic

[spoiler=Excerpts from the Congressional Hearing on Ambassadorial Nominee Porteous]

SPN

“We are now live from inside the Congressional Building, colloquially known as ‘Blue Hall’. The hearing is set to begin at 10 am, so not all 48 Representatives have arrived yet. Congressional Leader Leos Brown has already taken his seat overseeing the chamber, although he is still avidly conversing with his staff and Representatives Ralph Karl and Nadine Heuss, both from the Liberal Party which entered into a coalition with the Social Democratic Party following the 2017 election.

The government they lead is a four-party-system, with the Liberals and the Social Democrats in the majority and the Rationals and the Schiffs in the minority. Each is lead by a Minister tasked with unifying their party’s agenda and legislative actions. Current Majority Ministers Bushfell and Mortimer have entered the chamber an hour ago and seem to be in deep discussions with several of their colleagues. Minority Minister West is still absent while Minority Minister Martin is convening with his party members in a corner of the chamber.

With only half an hour until the first hearing is set to begin, we cut to a advertisement break.”

[BREAK]

“We are back with live coverage of the first hearing, which is set to start in a few minutes. As such, most members seem to be present and have started taking their seats. The first nominee, Professor Jason Porteous, has also arrived and has been seated facing the legislature. The 63-year-old is fitting right in with the Representatives, wearing a dark suit and tie.

Now, the Leader’s gavel is swinging down, signaling the beginning of the hearing.”

“HEARING:

LEADER BROWN: The Congress is in order, this hearing has now begun. We will hear from Professor Jason Porteous, nominee for the Ambassadorship to the Ausdonian Republic. Each member will be permitted to ask one question, with order being set by the order of the states they represent. After each willing member has asked their question, more opportunities for questions will be given until two hours have elapsed or no more open questions persist. The Leader will swear in the nominee and subsequently recognizes himself for the first question. Will the nominee please stand up and raise his right hand.

PROFESSOR PORTEOUS: (rises)

CL. BROWN: Do you solemnly swear to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth under the eyes of the people and the law?

PORTEOUS: (affirms) I do.

CL. BROWN: Please let the record show that the nominee answered in the affirmative. You may be seated.

PORTEOUS: (sits down)

CL. BROWN: As an Ambassador, you would be tasked with representing the United States of Schiff abroad. What values do you believe we share with the Ausdonian Republic?

PORTEOUS: Thank you Mister Leader and Members of Congress for allowing me to appear before you. To answer your question, I believe that through a strong diplomatic presence in the Ausdonian Republic we will reaffirm our shared commitment to freedom and democracy.

REP. BRYNN STEIN: What are your observations regarding the Ausdonian Republic?

PORTEOUS: Our histories share common threads of war and reform, of self-determination after tragedy. Our values were born from similar struggles and our futures will be intertwined.

REP. ADRIENNE WALLACE: What should the United States of Schiff hope for from a closer relationship to the Ausdonian Republic?

PORTEOUS: Beyond a cultural exchange and living our shared values as Thalassians, there is great potential of economic relations such as trade deals as well as defense alliances.

REP. XAVIER LEOPOLD HALE: How do you see the role of Schiff in the world?

PORTEOUS: I am a strong supporter of more extensive international engagement which is why I served in the Department of International Affairs before starting my tenure teaching young minds to think about international engagement and diplomacy. Schiffians can be a great asset to the world as the world can be to us.”

Congress confirmed Jason Porteous as the new Ambassador to The Ausdonian Republic with 39-9 votes. [/spoiler]

Clarkstan, Ozovia, Zentata, The Ausdonian Republic

Hey ya'll

Ozovia, Ayeinc, Wiskawga, Veaetmar, Zentata

Marthony wrote:Hey ya'll

Hey there :)

Check out this dispatch for new Thalassians:

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1260744

Toerana Iii, Ayeinc, Wiskawga, Zentata, United States Of Schiff

Thanks

Liruslau, Ayeinc, Zentata, Arenado

Marthony wrote:Thanks

Welcome! You've joined right in the middle of our elections, so you're in for a treat :)

Ayeinc, Wiskawga

[spoiler=Malbati Border Tension Escalates!]With the decline of the Provisional Government, the Malbat people saw their chance at independence. And so, as the Yaldians landed and the civil war began, various Malbati independence groups came together to form the "Malbati Freedom Coalition" and began to force the remaining Provisional troops out of the region. However, when the conflict began to wind down after the standstill at the southern border, old political fractures in Malbat's once sturdy independence party began to show. It was not long that the once cooperative "Malbat Agrarianist League" and "Malbati Party Of National Liberation"became bitter rivals with the Agrarianists wishing Malbati to be a semi-autonomous federated territory in an N.A lead Ozovia, and the M.P.N.L seeking an independent Malbati state. With the two groups growing further and further apart, many worried that Malbat would suffer just like the Ozovians...and be embroiled into a civil war. However, that would not be. An event took place...and event that once again sews the ripped fabric of the Freedom parties unity together, and sends nearly 21,000 Malbati militiamen into Provisional territory.

To put it simply, the event began as an accident. A Provisional border guard mistook a Malbati taking out his phone with him drawing a weapon...and shot him, leading to the Ozovian in question being shot by the man's compatriots as retaliation. Soon, a border skirmish would break out that would be won by the Malbati, but due to lack of coordination with the central command...the troops kept going. Now, the Provisional Government faces another problem, an undeclared war in the north.[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Vasily's Army on the Retreat!]With the Yaldians unceasing bombing of the eastern front, General Vasiliy's pro-Assembly army was left completely organized, leading to a decisive Provisional counter-attack that kicked the army from the Kastov river, and away from the capital. Such a victory was needed for the Provisional Government, with morale low and government support abysmal this could keep the Provisional Government standing for now. Although, with the new problems in Malbati...that success may be shortlived.[/spoiler]

[spoiler=The Volunteers]With the arrival of supplies and men from the Assemblies foreign allies, the delegates sighed with relief, and went quickly to work. It was not long after that the troops were equipped with superior rifles, the military trainers assigned war-eager recruits, and the new technology dispatched to necessary places.

As for the volunteers, they would be met with excitement and curiosity from the general populace. With Ozovia being as closed off as it was, most Ozovians had never seen foreigners in person, and to find that they were willing to assist the war effort...happy to even, brought hope to the people of the National Assembly. Anatoliy Sokolov, leader of the Vanguardists, would also have translated pamphlets sent to each volunteer groups leading officers to be translated and read to the volunteers:

[Excerpt From The Pamplet

"It is on behalf of the Ozovian people that the National Assembly welocmes you to our nation! It is clear you are all a special kind of person, ones who view justice and freedom as ideals worth any sacrifice. You have all willingly chosen to fight on foreign soil with a foreign enemy, all for the freedom of a foreign people you have no experience with. All because you all have a quality a lot of people don't, a characteristic that makes you want to stand up against tyranny, against injustice, against oppression. It is a characteristic the bourgeoisie and their political puppets fear, as it is that exact trait that causes the beaten-down masses to exclaim.." no more". It is a trait, of free men. As people with this characteristic, we will help rid one more haven of despotism from our great Thalassia, so that we may lead the way for the rest of the world to bask in the sunlight that is freedom."

Although remaining mostly the same...the phrase "bourgeoise and their political puppets" was replaced with "kings, dictators, and demagogues of the world" in the The Ausdonian Republic version of the pamphlet.

Alaniztan[/spoiler]

Marthony wrote:Hey ya'll

Hello! Welcome to Thallasia. I am rather new here myself.

Alaniztan, Ayeinc, The Ausdonian Republic

I am happy to announce I have released my latest campaign dispatch sharing a little about myself and my in-game past! Thank you and I hope you all have a nice day.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1307142

Toerana Iii, Zentata, United States Of Schiff

Callmedaddystratton wrote:hello

Hey there and welcome to Thalassia!

Monkelandd

Ozovia rp

In response to the attack on ratai, the soldiers bunker down for a few more hours, until 15,000 paratroopers arrive, dropping into the center of the city. Bombing starts to deter the enemies, and more troops are on there way. The yaldians do not surrender and keep fighting as the paratroopers drop on buildings, they then unfold lightweight belt fed machine guns, which they use to spray large rounds onto the enemies below.

vasiliy's army will be bombed hard still, hoping to kill the commander.

also you repeatadly said i was bombing civilians, i am not as that is immoral and unnescesarry.

The yaldians reveal technology for planes to the pg they give them designs for basic modern fighters and bombers.

The yaldians demand the pg try to stop conflict on the border, and to recognise the natives, otherwise there will be another front that the pg cant afford to have.

Ayeinc wrote:I just wanted to bump Wiskawga's campaign dispatch. Also, notice how Wisk's campaign is "Wiskawga for Thalassia" not "Wisk for PM" or "Wisk 2020". His campaign is about you, nothing more, nothing less.

Vote Wiskawga for Thalassia! on January 17th-20th!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1305900

bumpy bumpy

Wiskawga, Monkelandd

Ayeinc wrote:<snip>

Can't speak for anyone else but I'm personally not sure it's strictly necessary to bump campaign dispatches more than once a day, especially when we're getting the post preview and it isn't contained in a spoiler. It's pretty spammy.

Also, did you use Regional Officer powers to send that campaign telegram for Wiskawga I just received?

Czech Germania, Toerana Iii, Arenado, Monkelandd

Cormactopia Prime wrote:Also, did you use Regional Officer powers to send that campaign telegram for Wiskawga I just received?

He said he used stamps.

Ayeinc

Hello

Ozovia, Wiskawga, Zentata, Zuzzubaria

The NewsWire has been updated! Please be sure to check the section including election materials. Best of luck to our candidates!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1260743

Czech Germania, Ayeinc, Wiskawga, United States Of Schiff, Monkelandd

Yaldian Territories wrote:Ozovia rp

snip

I have planes, as well as advanced radar on my anti-air defenses there too now. they may be outdated but there's no way in hell your safely landing another 15K men without massive casualties

Ayeinc, I categorically want you to refrain from using telegrams to send campaign dispatches.

It's unfair and scummy. It puts people without stamps at an obvious disadvantage.

There is only one time a TG with the dispatches is sent and it's by me when voting starts. I'd want to remind the candidates that none of them have sent the campaign dispatches they want included in the TG.

Arenado, Ashurg, Toerana Iii, Wiskawga.

Cormactopia Prime, Wymondham, Liruslau, Czech Germania, Toerana Iii, Badivermeraed, Ayeinc, Sho, Thalassia Founder, Arenado

Ozovia wrote:I have planes, as well as advanced radar on my anti-air defenses there too now. they may be outdated but there's no way in hell your safely landing another 15K men without massive casualties

RP

Actually there is a way to land them without masisve casualities, there would obviously be many, but not a massive amount. I would deploy them using stealth bombers, makingit very unlikely you would even know of there presence until they went to a lower altitude, and once they drop they would be dropping onto the areas controlled by yaldian troops, meaning that it would be decently hard to shoot them in air, as the distance would be pretty long. (also considering you penetrated my very bult up defenses so easily, and without rping a battle i might recommend you dont start a problem)

RP

Ausdonian General Robert Peterson, a renowned four star general and high level strategist, will be heading to Ozovia to assist in leading the combined forces of Ausdonia and the Ozovian National Assembly.

Ausdonia will also be sending Abram tanks to assist land forces and APCs to increase troop movement speed.

Ozovia, Zentata

https://nationstates.news/thalassia-election-january-2020-arenado-leads-candidates-answer-questions/2147/

Following NSToday polling for the pre-interview poll, results are out!

Wymondham, Toerana Iii, Ayeinc, Zentata, Arenado

I just want to take a moment to thank my supporters, it really means a lot to me and I truly appreciate all of you who are backing me in this election! I also want to thank Rocki and Cormac for their kind endorsements and NSToday for the interview, it was great fun and I thank them for hosting it with their usual journalistic excellence. I am humbled and honoured by this show of support and I promise I will do everything in my power to earn your vote and your support in this election. If anyone has any questions feel free to reach out to me and I will do my best to answer any questions anyone may have. Thank you and I hope you all have a nice day!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1305794

Clarkstan, Cormactopia Prime, Wymondham, Toerana Iii, Ayeinc, Rockiberg, United States Of Schiff

The Ausdonian Republic wrote:RP

Ausdonian General Robert Peterson, a renowned four star general and high level strategist, will be heading to Ozovia to assist in leading the combined forces of Ausdonia and the Ozovian National Assembly.

Ausdonia will also be sending Abram tanks to assist land forces and APCs to increase troop movement speed.

RP

A journalist stops the president during his visit to the Clarkstanian film library and asks a question:

,,Mr. President, have you heard about the departure of troops from Ausdonia to Gozvia ?,,

President immediately said

,,So it begins,,

,,So, what will be our reaction ?,,ask journalist

,,I said everything yesterday, what can you do? When they don’t listen to you.Once again, our interests coincide with what Ausdonia said yesterday. Everything is right, the withdrawal of troops and then the return of prisoners to Yaldia.Some may say: you said the first to free the prisoners and then the withdrawal of the troops. Yes, we said so, but again the prisoners will return home.There will be no intervention from our country, we will only strengthen our border with the police, the National Guard and everyone who wants to protect the entrance to their homeland. This is all, you can continue your work.,,

(ООС: It's best time to start with Lord of Rings quote.)

The Ausdonian Republic

Yaldian Territories wrote:snip

OOC: Kind of agree with Ozovia on this. Your war strategy reminds me a lot of the US plans in Korea and Vietnam but it seems like you just magically writing off all the problems the US faced in those both of those conflict. Like bombing the enemy into submission was a major part of the US strategy yet according to your own posts you seem to have bomber planes that are simultaneously capable of flying at very high altitudes to high to avoid being shot down and so accurate that they can avoid bombing civilians and only hit their intended military targets. Even at low altitudes bombing campaigns are not this accurate because bombs are messy and very destructive and at high altitudes this becomes more of a problem making carpet bombing the only viable strategy if you want to hit your target at all and this is ignoring the inevitable human error where some pilot confuses a school for a military base. The other big problem I've noticed is supply lines. Like you've paradropped a ton of troops into Ratai which is surrounded by NA territory which by itself is okay but how are you feeding your very far from home troops stuck in a city which you also "bombed extremely"? More supply drops? For 25,000 physically active men? Which all arrive perfectly intact leading to no shortages and therefore no drop in moral? There is a reason why the US didn't just paradrop into Pyongyang and Hanoi at the first outbreak of conflict

Ozovia, Zentata

Arenado wrote:snip

As Arenado said, I'd like to thank all the people who have supported me so far during this election, I knew it was going to be a tough campaign trail as I am up against two fabulous candidates. I'd like to especially thank Liruslau for endorsing me. I'd also very much like to thank both Wiskawga and Arenado for being amazing opponents, and keeping the election pleasant, and I am very pleased that whoever wins this election, Thalassia will continue to grow and prosper into a fabulous region for all.

Also here's my campaign dispatch again ;)

[spoiler]https://www.nationstates.net/nation=toerana_iii/detail=factbook/id=1305841[/spoiler]

Cormactopia Prime, Wymondham, Liruslau, Ayeinc, Wiskawga, Zentata, Arenado, United States Of Schiff, Monkelandd

OOC:No seriously Yaldia, in the real war there are also problems for the most capable army.Here is an example: in 1999 during the NATO aggression against Yugoslavia, they did not dare to launch a land attack.Because they knew that the troops of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia were well acquainted with the landscape and therefore used the Albanian terrorists.Godmoding is here, and that's for sure.

Ozovia

I'm going to say that the high altitude bombing precision is Godmodding, but I'm going to research the paratrooper drop a bit. Oh yeah, er, RP mod post

Zentata

The bombers obviously have to go to lower altitudes to drop anything lmao. i never said they arrived perfectly intact, infacti said they were many casualties.

i only said that the planes traveled at high altitudes and i specifically said they dropped altitude before dropping troops.

and for the intense bombing i letirally said i used many less advanced bombers because i simply couldnt do that with my stealth ones, and obviously those werent at high altitudes.

Alright. Obviously some planes wouldn't make it, but there's still the issue of paratroopers...

Woulda look at the time??? It's nearly voting time y'all! Make sure you make a good, educated decision for PM!

Hello all. Back on the site after many things happening. So how is the region fairing?

Ayeinc, Zentata

I have two good choices, looking at the polls and interviews helped!

Read the interview and dispatches, inform yourself! Every vote counts, trust me it's true

Badivermeraed, Ayeinc, Wiskawga, Arenado

We're about to vote for our second PM! So things are going pretty well

Arenado

PM ELECTION

Hey, the voting on the PM election is open! The candidates are: Arenado, Ashurg, Toerana Iii, and Wiskawga.

You can vote here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=152198

Good luck to the candidates!

Cormactopia Prime, Toerana Iii, Badivermeraed, Ayeinc, Wiskawga, Arenado, United States Of Schiff, Carlia

Whatever happens next I just want to express my gratitude to everyone who supported me through this and everyone who endorsed me in this election. Thank you to everyone, I cannot overstate how grateful I am to all of you, thank you so much! And to the other candidates I wish you the best of luck. Whoever wins in this election I am sure Thalassia will be in good hands. Thank you all again and I hope you all have a nice day!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1305794

Toerana Iii, Wiskawga, Antellopia, United States Of Schiff, Carlia

This has been a very clean and orderly election. Whoever wins will do a great job, and I've left notes for each new minister and the new PM. Good luck!

Czech Germania, Toerana Iii, Ayeinc, Wiskawga, Antellopia, Arenado, United States Of Schiff, Carlia

Badivermeraed wrote:This has been a very clean and orderly election. Whoever wins will do a great job, and I've left notes for each new minister and the new PM. Good luck!
Thank for serving as the Prime Minister, thanks for setting the foundation of our Democracy. Thank you for your service. Preserving our Democracy is dear to all of us.

Toerana Iii, Badivermeraed, Ayeinc, Wiskawga, Arenado, United States Of Schiff

It's only been four days since this all started and it's been a ride. Big thanks to my supporters. Regardless of who gets elected, I believe that the next Prime Minister will carry the region far. Good luck y'all!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1305900

Toerana Iii, Ayeinc, Arenado, United States Of Schiff

Antellopia wrote:Thank for serving as the Prime Minister, thanks for setting the foundation of our Democracy. Thank you for your service. Preserving our Democracy is dear to all of us.

Indeed. I made mistakes, but I tried hard to represent y'all on the world stage and at home. Thank you for letting me serve, and I'll say my full goodbye in March :'¢)

(Also I'm paranoid that looks like a nose so I'm going to put one on it)

United States Of Schiff, Monkelandd

Badivermeraed wrote:

Indeed. I made mistakes, but I tried hard to represent y'all on the world stage and at home. Thank you for letting me serve, and I'll say my full goodbye in March :')

You're leaving the region?

Monkelandd

Antellopia wrote:You're leaving the region?

I'm retiring from NS for an indefinite time, as I'm getting my life together hahaha. That'll be in March, so I'll still be here for a bit.

Toerana Iii, Ayeinc, Wiskawga, Antellopia, Zentata, United States Of Schiff, Monkelandd

Oswald State Correctional Facility wrote:Hello all. Back on the site after many things happening. So how is the region fairing?

Well, I think we're doing quite well, and make sure to vote!

Monkelandd

I think when this election is over we might want to consider legislation to regulate campaigning, such as prohibiting mass campaign telegrams -- just mass telegrams, letting people send manual telegrams is okay I think because everyone can do that, but maybe not everyone can afford stamps -- and restricting how many times per day campaign dispatches can be linked on the RMB. There's a fine line between getting the word out and spam, and I think we've gone over that line at times this campaign.

The latter could actually already be included in the RMB Rules, but I think legislation would make sense.

I nominate someone else to write the legislation. I'm just the armchair guy making annoying suggestions now. :P

Wymondham, Czech Germania, Toerana Iii, Badivermeraed, Ayeinc, Veaetmar, Antellopia, Zentata, Arenado

I agree with Cormac and might draft something that people can input into once the election is over, just a document that clearly sets out what the expectations are from candidates and ensures fairness.

I am not sure it needs to be legislation, but something we can all agree on about how the whole thing is conducted, and therefore there is a reasonable understanding for everyone - rather than unwritten rules.

Czech Germania, Ayeinc, Wiskawga, Arenado

RP

News,CLTV 1

President of the Federal Republic of Clarkstan, Luka Gavric said that all migrants who illegally try to cross the border with Clarkstan will be deported to an island in the far west away from this region.

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Far-right groups today organized a protest rally in Layton which they demand the exit of Clarkstan from D.A.C.G.S.More than 300,000 people participate in the protest.Also called on the government would not allow Malbati to become an independent state.They called Malbati a potential terrorist state that could become a threat to the security of our southern fellow citizens.As an argument for exiting D.A.C.G.S, they emphasize that some ,,allies"insist on the recognition of the independence of Malbati and Khora.

As NSToday's election coverage is now over. I would like to announce that I am endorsing Arenado to be our next PM. I believe Aren has the strength of character and conviction to deliver upon his promises as well as the fact that his policies represent the best course forward for Thalassia

Arenado

Post self-deleted by Badivermeraed.

Ahemememem.

I'm not one for speeches, so I'll keep this short. Arenado will be the best fit for PM, and I'm happy to endorse him. I believe he will be best fit for revitalization of the regional RP, as well as recruitment. I wouldn't really trust anyone else to be my successor.

You can uh, drink the champagne now.

Toerana Iii, Arenado

Post by Badivermeraed suppressed by Ayeinc.

Badivermeraed

Ahemememem.

I'm not one for speeches, so I'll keep this short. Arenado will be the best fit for PM, and I'm happy to endorse him. I believe he will be best fit for revitalization of the regional RP, as well as recruitment. I wouldn't really trust anyone else to be my successor.

You can uh, drink the champagne now.

Thanks for getting the double post Ayeinc, Bad's phone was being a bit glitchy and I shan't be surprised if his phone did an accidental double post on him

Toerana Iii, Ayeinc, Arenado, Monkelandd

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