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Region: The Mystical Council
What makes The Wolf Clan different from other regions of the past? When we opened the doors of TWC, core members who have been with me for a good while and myself agreed that we can't be moving again. We have tried many things as far as regions go and this is our final place. Mistakes are okay to make as long as you learn from them. I am not perfect, I don't claim to be, but I can ensure you that TWC will be open for a long time. TWC is my final region, not just a region but a community that will have influence that will spread.
Lalucia, Eastern Forestavia
Hmm. Ok. I suppose we will have to take a leap of faith on that one.
Now, concerning the Long Table terms. If I understand correctly the following would be true:
1. The Mystical Council would be considered an autonomous state under The Wolf Clan monarchy.
2. King Lemon (or whoever our Delegate happens to be) would be recognized with nobility status by the monarchy and would have a seat representing TMC at the Long Table.
3. We could opt out of flying the flag but we would have to state on the WFE that The Mystical Council is a state - self-governing but subordinate to - The Wolf Clan.
Are there any other terms I didn't include?
Lalucia, Alpha Wolf
Those are the terms of the Long Table but your region is currently founderless, it's a wonder it has gotten hit. Actually the way it set right now, it's possible for a raider army to come in and refound it and you have seen that before just like I have seen it. Since your founderless, that's why I'm proposing a merge.
Lalucia, Eastern Forestavia
I know that being founderless by choice is unorthodox and sounds completely crazy to most people (and maybe it is!), but I can assure you that there is no danger as our influence levels are high and we have several active WA member nations here. In the event of an occupation I would intervene. It would take them so long to put a password up that I would log on in time to prevent a refound. There's no way they'd ever be able to get away with it. I have extrasensory perception! When something is going down in the TMC my fingers start tingling. And then I know it's time to check in on the region.
Other reasons we haven't gotten hit... We're strong and we're not afraid of anyone. Other raiders know they can't take us down. The Order Of The Grey Wardens is on top of it. Lily is cool with us and we're cool with them. I love raids and fully embrace them when they happen, therefore raids have no power over us. We ride the waves. That's what keeps us afloat. That's what makes us so mystical. We have true liberation here. Absolute freedom. We don't run on the false security that comes with having a founder. Founders die off all the time and then most regions freak out or die off. We run on something a little more important - something that provides more security than one nation or one person. Maybe it's faith. Maybe it's TMC loyalty. Maybe it's a culture. Maybe it's a knowing that we have each other. Who knows?
Maybe we SHOULD merge with TWC. And in merging with TWC, perhaps TWC could learn something from us, too. And our two regions would both benefit.
Gyuamno, Lalucia, Malcholm, Alpha Wolf
True. Networking is very important. If you choose to come, you would be greeted with open arms and a region with an active founder. A sense of security of having an active founder and walls that stand strong. A stable monarchy but with three Parliament terms that last 2 months at a time and are elected by poll. We are here and provide a stable home for everyone.
Are you saying we would have to move? I was under the impression that TMC would be considered a state and that we wouldn't have to move.
I have a counter proposal:
How about you guys merge with us?
Lalucia, Wolflandil, Exotic Lemon, The Newsstand
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Exotic Lemon, Alley Cats
I had a conversation with Alpha earlier today about the proposed merge as you can see. I'm not all that active anymore so I'm not going to tell you what to do. I'm just going to offer some advice. Alpha has approached me about a merge many times in the past and has been very interested in TMC for a long time. Also, our region is nearly 4 years old. And our King has been in office for nearly 70 days (His Majesty is doing a great job by the way). So that means we have leverage. This Long Table situation may actually be tempting enough for TMC to bite.
It appears to be a soft merge, more like an alliance kind of thing. But we have to clarify some things first though. The last post by Alpha was very ambiguous and it wasn't clear whether or not we were actually invited to the Long Table or whether he was looking for us to physically move.
My opinion is that our region is old enough and stable enough to where we shouldn't have to physically relocate because then we would lose all of the influence we've stored up and TMC would become weaker. So if we decide to do this merge with Alpha my advice is to make sure the terms are spelled out clearly. We need to make sure that we get something out of this deal, too. We should use our leverage because we want to be sitting at the Long Table and not at the Wrong Table.
For now, I'm going to side with Alistia and vote against this thing until we get more clarity.
Gyuamno, Lalucia
For those who are adamantly opposed to this whole thing I'm going to throw another wrench into the works - another proposal, regional legislation (not sure what the policy is for passing legislation these days but here you go):
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The Mystical Council shall never enter into a merge agreement with any other region that has not attained the age of two years when such a merge agreement requires physical relocation of TMC's residents. This law shall go into effect immediately after being passed in accordance with established regional law, procedure, or precedent.
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Maybe Alistia and I might team up to get this passed. *Pokes Alistia*
Alistia
Another dispatch. The Wolf Clan has acquired two monarchy lands. Will The Mystical Council follow?
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1044648
[I]Tfw everyone keeps forgetting the mighty invasion and conquering of TMC by TGHI, technically we're their colony :'(
Alistia, Wolflandil, Malcholm, Alley Cats
Could be worse
Wolflandil, Malcholm, Terran Flux, Exotic Lemon
True
Malcholm, Exotic Lemon
If we are going to talk about merging with other regions then why not with Malcholm’s or my own? As we both would have worthy prospects on the merger front.
Alistia
As a traveling nation.. my advice is to maintain your region and don't merge. Especially as it's been around for 4 years!
Wolflandil, Terran Flux
New Poll up! Voting is mandatory, punishments will be handed out to non voters!
I love democracy
Gyuamno, Malcholm
Do you have punishments in store for those who dont have a favorite memory?
Lalucia, Terran Flux
I like the way you're thinking! So explosive and fun, it'll be a blast!
Wolflandil
What is this "memory" you speak of, and how do I find it?
Lalucia
I'd say several months back of our rmb could help, like at least half a year, maybe more
Ek ken nie!
Wasn't here (sad)
Malcholm
IC: With one of the largest military acquisitions within the region, The Kingdom of Lalucia has just signed a deal to acquire 4 brand new, state of the art Aircraft Carriers. Each will be nuclear powered and cost 12 billion Lents each.
OOC: Do we have a regional currency?
Malcholm, Terran Flux, Alley Cats
So you want me...to read...words...
You seem to when you are on the RMB :P
Malcholm
me too :( lest you all forget the great fortunes brought to us by our mighty potato overlords!
I'll pass.
At the very least, we need something like this. I don't think our Lemon-y King should show such interest in throwing away our independence >:(
Alistia, Wolflandil, Terran Flux
Er...what did you say?
Just making a point
Malcholm
You know what's good? Regional nationalism. You wanna know how we should achieve that?
A regional military doing cool stuff, amirite?
Malcholm, Exotic Lemon
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Malcholm
lol We don't even have a functioning government!
Malcholm, Parakka Northland
I won't have time for another military.
But hey, y'all do what y'all want.
Malcholm
Shhh I have a plan for that, I just need a bit of time tis all.
Lalucia, Malcholm, Alley Cats
Terran is playing the long con, before you know it he'll swoop in and reinstate himself as our one true Overlord 😈
Lalucia, Alistia, Terran Flux, Parakka Northland, Alley Cats
Cough cough
I need endorsements
Cough
Lalucia, Malcholm, Alley Cats
Psst. Ya'll got those endorsements?
Malcholm, Terran Flux
Oi. How are ya t'day Mates?
Malcholm
Welcome back Civ
Malcholm, Zuthra, Alley Cats
Thank you. Is it just me or is Nationstates on a sharp decline inactivity wise?
Malcholm
i love you oaky oakmeowster
Terran Flux, Alley Cats
civ showed up that means something is happening in tmc!
Terran Flux, Zuthra, Alley Cats
i gracefully apologize for the atrocious governing i have been doing while in my post of chancellor. give me a few more weeks :$
Malcholm, Terran Flux
Is there no more TMC discord open to join? :(
Alpha Wolf what is your proposal of this "merge" comrade!?
Zuthra, Alley Cats
It's inactive
Zuthra
Shooo inactivity has got me by the B@LL$
How's every one doing?
Wolflandil, Zuthra
It’s that time of year. It always seems to go dead during the summer months (June - September)
Malcholm, Zuthra
We will have to call in the protoss or zerg to stop him!
Malcholm, Terran Flux, Parakka Northland, Zuthra
More of a Protoss fan than Zerg :)
Alistia, Malcholm, Terran Flux, Zuthra
I'm doing fairly well. How are you doing?
Lalucia, Malcholm, Zuthra
Well thanks...
Wolflandil, Malcholm
I'll check my other nations to see if I got any telegrams from him, my dear Chancellor.
Edit: Just checked my other nations. No telegrams from Alpha. Has anyone else been in touch with him?
Wow! An RP post! :) We haven't had one of those for a while! Nice. To answer your question regarding the regional currency, I refer you to this post:
And so, my brave knight, the question then becomes what is the regional currency of The Greater Holy Isles. Last I checked it was still the Bap - or some variant of. The Bap Zone is so large that my main is still using it (and Forestavia is located all the way over in Solar Alliance. The Bap is a powerful interregional force to be reckoned with. Whenever I start RPing again I'm going to try to have my nation leave the Bap Zone but I'm afraid of the economic consequences. And potato tariffs.....
Lalucia, Malcholm, Terran Flux, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
We will supply your potatoes if you leave the bap zone at below cost price until your economic situation becomes better
Lalucia, Forestavia
Good to know. The Pyroskian powers that be will not stop us!
Lalucia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland
You'd be wise to not discuss potato dealings in the presence of a ruling house of the Pyroskian Empire. Their influence stetches beyond the reaches of their names; know that there will be consequences for crossing the honest men and women that work day in and out to feed your peoples.
Lalucia, Terran Flux, Parakka Northland
lol This was a good read!
You guys are funny and very active which is cool!
Malcholm, Terran Flux
Me too, but the enemy of my enemy is an ally for a time right?
Malcholm, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
Very true... until they have outlived their usefulness 😉
Mind you could always go back to worshipping celery instead?
*whispers to Forest*
We have sweet potatoes, normal potatoes and various others? How many do you want and of what? I can flood your streets in potatoes within days!
*ribs hands together*
Malcholm, Exotic Lemon
Shall I float the Northern Oceanic Charter Alliance?
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=851637
Open to select nations!
Lalucia
Hello everyone,
I have returned and see the region is (mostly) intact. How is everyone, and are their any issues that need to be addressed?
Lalucia, Malcholm, Terran Flux
Hi.
(Just so you guys know, I haven't been posting much, but I am reading all of the rmb.)
Lalucia, Malcholm, Terran Flux
What shall we do!?
Terran Flux
WAR!
Cough How are things? How was your trip Lemon?
Terran Flux, Exotic Lemon
Is it a RP thing? If so I might join.
Terran Flux
It was fun. I was out of service for most of it.
Anyone interested in starting up a new rp? Or reviving the old one from Trebisond (my rp account) and warzone tmc
Gyuamno, Lalucia, Terran Flux
Daddy Lemon is back! Rejoice!
*Hurriedly deactivates all my WMDS*
Lalucia, Malcholm
If elected to Lunar Council, what does one do?
Lalucia, Malcholm
They are our judicial system. If a government member is accused of corruption or a trial is brought out, they are the judges. We haven't needed to use them yet, but they are there as a safeguard against corruption
Wolflandil
hmmm... I would say, have the Monarch play Judge and Jury for now... Focus on forming an active Government first with strong recruitment and establishing and Identity (Constitution). I can work on one as I have some free time if the region so wishes.
Malcholm
👀
Exotic Lemon
Thanks for the vote of confidence those who voted for me has shown... Question... If I or anyone else gets elected, what laws are in place to keep the Judge in check?
Malcholm
huhhh... um... well, there used to be checks and balances, but I'm not sure if any of them carried over from previous iterations of the Council. looking at the gov't dispatch, it seems there's currently nothing stopping you guys from establishing a tyrannical reign over the region. Quick, while no-one's looking, impose term limits!
Lalucia, Wolflandil, Parakka Northland
Also a two day late warm welcome to Djeusland 😊
Lalucia, Wolflandil
Correction. The current check and balance is the fellow judges. In theory, If two judges are upset at the peoples choice for the third judge, they can just impeach them.
Lalucia, Malcholm
Oof, yeah, that's right. I'm assuming that Lemon probably didn't intend for that to be a possibility, but that is how it's written. The judge's check is "behave, or you're out."
Lalucia, Wolflandil
7 hours ago: Ififififif ceased to exist.
Again.....
Wolflandil, Malcholm
It wouldn't be a bad idea.. I'd suggest further clarifying checks and balances in your goverent outline so that there isn't any confusion later down the line.
Lalucia
Thank you everyone. I promise I will not disappoint...
Where can I find the oath of office?
Also Djeusland is an old friend of mine. We governed a region together a few years back before inactivity kicked in and the region died... He is a great player!
Like everythin g here, the oath is implied because I am lazy. We can draft one up though. Djeusland should apply for citizenship with chancellor Gyuamno. If Gyuamno is unavailable, talk to me or another senior government member (Terran Flux or Malcholm)
Congratulations on the win!
Edit: Temporary Oath of Office: " I hereby declare that I will serve the kingdom to my utmost ability, and will not hesitate to do what is right. I owe loyalty only to justice, and the people whom I represent." I will be the shield against corruption, and I will use my power in a fair and unbiased manner."
Terran Flux
IC: "I Mark Anthony, hereby declare that I will serve the kingdom to my utmost ability and will not hesitate to do what is right. I owe loyalty only to justice, and the people whom I represent. I will be the shield against corruption, and I will use my power in a fair and unbiased manner."
OOC: Have you considered my offer about drawing up a constitution?
So I created a Discord for our region: https://discord.gg/dkhKh8Q
If anyone is interested... Should make it easier to discuss things
Glad to have you on board.
You or anyone else is welcome to draw up a constituition but be warned we have gone a long time without one
We already have a discord but we don't really use it
Lalucia, Alistia
Oh, didn't see a link to it anywhere...
I have a copy of the previous constitution... Don't worry, I'm very objective lol and I kinder have experience with laws and such things game-wise and in real life.
Exotic Lemon
Rarely used anymore but if you want to go in: https://discord.gg/Ndh6eNb
Lalucia, Exotic Lemon
I like the flag ;)
Lalucia, Alistia, Exotic Lemon
Well thanks :)
Binging discovery right now.
Lalucia, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
Yeah, really cool flag!
So which discord are we going to use? The old or the new? Since we don't have a forum, we need to discuss matters that needs urgent attention.
I would host a 3 day poll and see what everyone thinks
Lalucia, Wolflandil, Exotic Lemon
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Gyuamno, Lalucia, Alistia, Eastern Forestavia, Terran Flux, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
Welcome back
Alistia, Barishmacht, Terran Flux, Parakka Northland
What is the point of this news report if it excludes our region yet we allow them to post on our wall... Shouldn't you be covering all regions?
Gyuamno
Been a while zombie!
What newsworthy things have we done?? :P
Lalucia, Wolflandil, Eastern Forestavia, Terran Flux, Parakka Northland
I think if you want to type something up Lalucia regarding our region and what we have done I’m sure The Newsstand will be more than happy to feature it in the next paper. Assuming it works like that mind.
Lalucia, Eastern Forestavia, Terran Flux
lol Come on guys... No interest in anything or is everyone busy?
Hmmm... I think I might have a bit too much time on my hands...
Gyuamno
Great to see you back btw
Terran Flux
Does me actively planning a fascist coup count, cause I'm actively planning on a fascist coup.
Gyuamno, Lalucia, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
That might just be news worthy... do you have a cool name and logo?
Lalucia
No logo yet, I'm thinking about "Mystic Empire" as the name for my reign,
Parakka Northland
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