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Region: The Mystical Council
He has arisen from the ground.... didn't think it was zombie day yet haha
Alright then with only [nation=short]Malcholm[/nation] running for the JB seat, he wins by default. [B]As such, effective April 1st, this is the regional goverment:[/B]
Prime Minister: [nation=short]VIVA ITALIA[/nation]
Minister of Foreign Affairs: [nation=short]New Bacon[/nation]
Minister of Defense: [nation=short]Alistia[/nation]
Minister of Culture: [nation=short]Barishmacht[/nation]
Minister of Domestic Affairs: [nation=short]Mugwop[/nation]
JB Seat #1 [nation=short]Malcholm[/nation] (Term: April 1st - June 30th)
JB Seat #2 [nation=short]Chingis[/nation] (Term: February 1st - April 30th) (Judicial President)
JB Seat #3 Vacant (Term: March 1st - May 31st)
Now if you all choose we can have 1 more set of election to full Seat 3 because we have some time left, but this election does not reset the term, i.e: within 2 months Seat #3 will go on reelection regardless.
Forestavia, Alistia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland
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The foreign minister is The Immortal Elysium
Parakka Northland
Oh yes now I remember. There was some confusion about it back then 2 weeks ago:
Sorry about that. I blame the anarchist [nation=short]Alistia[/nation] for all of this.
Malcholm, Truxol, Parakka Northland
I blame joe for the mixup.
Parakka Northland
May i suggest that you send a copy of the new government officials to both the delegate and founder (I'm not going to assume ill still be in the position by then lol) that way they can be installed on time hopefully
Forestavia
okay
Parakka Northland
It'd be good to go ahead and fill it, imo.
Forestavia, Parakka Northland
[nation=short]New Bacon[/nation], thoughts? Full the spot now or keep it empty?
If it involves me in filling the seat no, keep it empty. If someone else wants to participate that's fine we can fill it. Also I'm not the minister of foreign affairs Immortal is.
dont forget about the trf flag in the capital :P
Truxol
also im against the delegate having 2 positions
New Bacon, Parakka Northland
I think one position per player.
New Bacon, Parakka Northland
I remember that too. The weird thing was, I was actually awake that night and logged in and saw the craziness happening. At first I thought it was a prank, but then the truth came out several hours later.
Parakka Northland
But what if they are really, really, really, really, really spectacular at multitasking and accumulating power and dominating with an iron fist? They should be given a chance, right? I would trust them. For a little while anyway. Then we could launch a revolution against them if they were too iron fisted! Show them the way we are down here in the TMC.
Gyuamno, Malcholm
You guys want me to appoint someone until we can have an election for the #3 spot?
Malcholm, Parakka Northland
i used to be the iron fist dominator, that's why i'm against it for others, no one else is ready for the sith powers that comes with being a strong delegate.
Forestavia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland
i say civ
You read my mind.
Alistia
[nation=short]Civilisunio[/nation],
I'm going to appoint you *temporarily* to the third judicial spot until we have an election for that spot. This is a temporary appointment that will cease when a new justice is elected.
Alistia, Malcholm, Civilisunio, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
Also,
I temporarily grant sith powers to Alistia, the Great and Glorious Multitasker who will once again resurrect the Lunar Cou-
*interference*
*transmission ends suddenly*
Alistia, Parakka Northland
Just do a poll for candidates and see what we get. I don't like the idea of it being left empty if at all possible
Malcholm
Scratch that I noticed Forest sorted it :)
Alrighty.
Parakka Northland
I agree with both of you!
NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO to the infinity! Unless there is little competition.
Alistia, Malcholm
I'm just joking. lol! I think we have a pretty good system to deal with vacancies. Mugwop, Civ, Alistia, Parakka, and I were talking about it the other day and found a pretty good solution.
Alistia, New Bacon, Parakka Northland
All I saw was Mugwop bum, bum, parakka
Alistia, Civilisunio, Parakka Northland
Haha
Alistia, Truxol
Bum say what? :p
Alistia, Truxol
Do you have a dispatch on the party? I'm updating the regional info center.
Truxol
I completely understand, thanks.
Sorry I've been as inactive as ever.
Forestavia, Parakka Northland
Hello.
Malcholm, Civilisunio
Inactivity happens to us all at one time or another. Real life is tough.
Malcholm, Parakka Northland, Aratain
Welcome! :)
Malcholm
Hi and welcome :)
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Exotic Lemon
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Malcholm, Truxol, Parakka Northland
Everyone my WA is leaving again. If the delegacy is unstable I'm sorry. The Battle Guard is on a mission and I have to pursue it.
Alistia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland
Mine will be leaving shortly as well.
Malcholm
[nation=short]Forestavia[/nation] stopping pining the Regional Information Center, it's all available inside the The Mystical Council Government Page.
Malcholm, Viva Italia
You might as well ask the sun to disappear. You know he is never going to stop.
Malcholm, Civilisunio
I'd actually like the sun to dissappear.
Apparantly, according to those who have never seen me without my jacket on, I am as white as printer paper.
I believe I have what is Celtic Skin. (Means I get burned soon as I step foot outside.)
But I did manage to shoot off my rocket 5 times.
Alistia, Truxol, Civilisunio, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
I can kinda relate, I'm half mexican, and a quarter german and irish, yet I'm incredibly pale skinned.
In full Irish and I can certainly relate.I can't get tans I can only get burnt
Truxol, Civilisunio
I can't relate, i am mostly italian and i also have alot of Irish but i seem not to burn and i get really good tans except for my face.
Exotic Lemon, Viva Italia
I got burnt.
It is going to suck at work tomorrow. I literally cannot go to the beach or anything without wearing a shirt or something, because the highest level of sunscreen we get, applied hourly, doesn't work.
I hope I am not on the oven tomorrow....
I am half italian, but I inherited my mother's vampire-pale skin while my twin inherited my father's darker Italian tan. I also sizzle and bake in the sun after only an hour or two.
Truxol
https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_holy_reich_of_bunicken still has a copy of our flag as their flag :P
Malcholm
You realise both regions flags are the flag of the Teutonic order right?
Truxol
Yes i know i am the one who originally put up the flag here about a year ago :P
Malcholm
plugo can you help me make some medals for the battle guard?
Truxol
maybe
Truxol
Guys have we finished the voting for office positions? As if so and if no one objects i would like to put to the table the vote on whether we should consider becoming members of The Regional Alliance. Yes im aware that the treaty isnt perfect or 100% complete. However, i think ive done as much as i can with it on my own before any member regions can start to contribute. So fair the member regions that have had a stake in The Regional Alliance create are listed there. In addition i have spoken about [nation=short]New Bacon[/nation] about The Battle Guard joining also.
So if no major objections ill either post the poll tomorrow night or ask [nation=short]Forestavia[/nation] to do it if he is online
Malcholm
have we done a poll for foriegn affairs yet?
Truxol, Parakka Northland
what should my next article be on? and can someone update the wfe to remove the polls that expired.
Malcholm
long ago, thats immortal elysium.
maybe goals the new govt members have?
and happy new year should also be removed, replaced with happy spring maybe.
Parakka Northland
wheres a list of our spring govt officers?
Parakka Northland
Prime Minister: [nation=short]VIVA ITALIA[/nation]
Minister of Foreign Affairs: [nation=short]The_Immortal_Elysium[/nation]
Minister of Defense: [nation=short]Alistia[/nation]
Minister of Culture: [nation=short]Barishmacht[/nation]
Minister of Domestic Affairs: [nation=short]Mugwop[/nation]
JB Seat #1 [nation=short]Malcholm[/nation] (Term: April 1st - June 30th) (No office)
JB Seat #2 [nation=short]Chingis[/nation] (Term: February 1st - April 30th) (Judicial President)
JB Seat #3 [nation=short]Civilisunio[/nation] (Term: March 1st - May 31st) (No office)
Can you make some sort of dispatch about it first? There's a lot of details that I think should be clarified about the alliance before joining it.
Alistia, Malcholm
One more thing, after rounds of discussion, it seems that the most popular solution for officers being delegates, is that the two people just switch office positions. S o that's going to be the main solution in the proposal when it goes on for polling.
Here is a link to the draft treaty so far https://www.nationstates.net/nation=malazan_imperium/detail=factbook/id=main
Anything else your welcome to ask
So how does the The Alliance Senate goverment works? How does someone from TMC or SA become a goverment official in that regional system?
Malcholm, Parakka Northland
So how is the first goverment going to be formed? Say the "Alliance Prime Minister", what is the procedure for the first PM to come into office.
Malcholm
First and foremost we would need to get the signatorys sorted. Once that's happened then I envision that people will be able to put their names forward for various positions and then either the regions will be able to vote or the senate. If you have any suggestions on how to do it differently or to make the process more effective then I would greatly appreciate your input
Malcholm
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Yeah it's just there's a lot involved in sorting these kinds of thing. I guess you can setup the same election method we got here, with anyone who's a citizen of a signatory region, can vote and run for office over there. You gotta have some sort of limit on how many officers can be from one region though; you don't want for example that everyone in the alliance goverment to be from TMC, so you need to figure out some balance rule.
Malcholm, Parakka Northland
I'll look at adding something like that into the treaty. Maybe create an election document that coincides with the treaty?
Happy Birthday to me.
New Bacon, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon, Trudeau Eulogies
Happy birthday friend! Go eat cake n stuff :D
Parakka Northland, Viva Italia, Trudeau Eulogies
Civilisunio, Parakka Northland
[nation=short]the_immortal_elysium[/nation] ;)
Trudeau Eulogies
Civilisunio
@ and then their name. All one word. If there is spaces use underscores in place of those spaces.
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_mystical_council_news_agency/detail=factbook/id=794277 I need the new government to share their goals please. - Lemon
Malcholm
I'll get the goals to you tomorrow, if I have time.
It's late right now.
Happy Birthday!
Malcholm
I have been trying to get the ministers to make their addresses for the coming monthly report but I haven't heard back
I thought you wanted it on April 1
Happy birthday
I do however I would like to have it made before hand
Well for me it's not complicated that I need to prepare it. In fact, I can get right to the point with what my immediate step are:
1. Put into vote the proposal I made about delegate switching.
2. Put into vote a poll about whether or not we should keep the Grand Duke position.
3. Look more into previous TMC laws and find any loopholes to fill.
4. Work with our new Minister of Culture [nation=short]Barishmacht[/nation] to explore the possibility of making a new regional flag (I think we need to retire the one we have now)
So yeah those are my immediate plans.
Malcholm, Truxol, Viva Italia
Ideally, we would work off a per-region quota or proportionality system; say, three officials per region (at most), or one official per four or five WA citizens in the region up to X officials.
We would also need to ensure that all the regions involved have a list of nations who have a WA membership and cross-check to make sure that players aren't trying to operate in TRA's government from multiple regions: i.e., I wouldn't be allowed to run for a government position as [nation=short]malcholm[/nation] in TRA if I'm already serving as the TRA Emissary to TGHI, or any other official capacity, as [nation=short]Pyrosky[/nation]. It should be obvious, but I only mention it because I know a few of us have puppets across all three regions and TGHI doesn't have an official citizen registry.
I'd think it'd be pertinent to formalize the position of "TRA Emissary" for myself, Parakka, and Oak in our respective regions, at least initially. I have no problems with handing it off later, I just don't want things to go awry, as they do, when things are left to a democratic system in the early stages of development.
Parakka Northland
Ok just to make sure I get this right, it seems from discussions that there needs to be some sort of quota system for regional officers of TRA. Are we agreed or agreed as much is possible at this stage that the limit should be 3 members from each region? If so do I include this in the main treaty document or a separate one?
I also think the TRA Emissary role is good idea. Also like you said later on it can be more democratically handed over.
Don't put a number on it just yet. You will need to factor in how big is each member region, and how much each member region is involved.
Malcholm, Parakka Northland
Malcholm
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https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_mystical_council_news_agency/detail=factbook/id=794277 updated with malcholm and mugwops plans. Parakka is your previous post
your official plan or not? thanks, Lemon.
You might want to add a little context, i.e., Mugwop and Parakka's discussion up to that point summed up in a concise spoiler tag. Mugwop's plans resolve the more pressing issues facing the region, mine involve ideas slated for the future.
I wouldn't say that we need to factor in regional involvement, only because that would hopefully be a non-issue. Statistically, Parakka and Forestavia have the larger regions, and I wouldn't want my fledgling no-man's land to go underrepresented just because the players are less active. We've seen a lot of growth as of late, so that in itself is (hopefully) soon to be a non-issue.
Yeah now that I think of it, participation is hard to quantify.
How about this:
1. Delegate is not part of the goverment. In fact the delegate is non-exe. The alliance region is not a main region, so most of our WA will be in our home regions, and as a result an exe. delegate over there will put it in unnecessary raid risk.
2. Beyond the delegate whose position is meaningless, there should be 10 goverment positions (not counting the region's founder)
3. Of each member region, they deserve no less than a fifth of the goverment, but no more than half i.e: TMC can have a minimum of 2/10 reps in the alliance goverment and a maximum of 5/10 reps. This way we ensure that people can vote for their home region as they wish, but no member region can hog the whole goverment.
Im interestes in the govt of sa and tmc.. :(
Im interestes in the govt of sa and tmc.. :(
Theres nothing to report yet since the govt isnt appointed yet, do you mean a goal?
Yes
If that is the main consensus then yep.
In terms of [nation=short]mugwop[/nation] point with the delegate of TRA I think it's already set to none executive.
I think and I could be wrong here but [nation=short]Malcholm[/nation] is basically suggesting if you already have one capacity in TRA then you can't have another. So if your acting as TRA emissary to TMC then you can't be TRA Prime Minister. That doesn't mean you can't have a role in TRA and TMC.
Malcholm
That'd be correct, yes.
Parakka Northland
Sounds good to me. 10 seems like a lot at face value, but when put into perspective it makes sense. One theoretical for you though, what if a fourth region were to jump on board with us between now and the ratification (TBG, for example)? Would the proportions change to accommodate them? i.e.: Minimum stays at 1/5, but maximum changes to 2/5?
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Malcholm, Truxol
Trudeau Eulogies I love that name, I had so much fun with that meme after his hilarious Castro Eulogy.
Malcholm
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