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Region: The Mystical Council
Welcome to The Mystical Council, Chef!
Malcholm
Alright, quick flash poll up. Be honest. Am I being unreasonable? NC wants to turn The Union into "a protectorate of The Mystical Council". Would your nation's government be for such an idea given everything that has transpired?
My opinion is that this is akin to a world superpower propping up a dictatorship in a third-world nation; but that's just my biased take on the proposal.
Malcholm
Ah ! Who do we have here? The Chef ! Where are your 50 other puppets? And I pity Forestavia's sorry state of affairs in running from region to region and appeal to close embassies......Now seriously,
My proposal will have much for The Mystical Council. It will be the first time that this region will get to forward it's rules and regulations in a totally different region. The Lunar Council will be able to do everything related to the region and appoint their governing official , accord dominion status to the region, which can then form their own laws which must , albeit, be vetted by the Lunar Council.
Dont get swayed by Forestavia, Mystics !! He never envisaged that I would prop up this proposition and bring it in his backyard.
If The Lunar Council accepts this, it will get credit for giving direction to a region ravaged by war and internal strife. It can bring order and hence set an example.
Post self-deleted by Rrepaimziaraseh.
Actually my earlier proposition given to Forestavia , which he denied, rejected and behaved irresponsibly, was also to get The Mystical Council involved in the scheme of things in The Union so that the chaos can be managed. Now I request that the Lunar Council step in and take the region in their control. I will extend my wholehearted cooperation in this noble endeavour to save the region and inject the seeds of democracy into it.
The Union needs the Mystical Council's involvement. It is the solemn duty of your region to extend a helping hand to a helpless and weak region.
Delete the poll, and create one with only yes or no answers. Options like "Hahaha! I can't stop laughing long enough to vote!" serve nothing but confuse people.
And make sure to post an RMB post describing the situation, and linking it the post link in the poll description; you can't expect people to vote on a foreign issue that they might be ignorant about. Your people must know the kind of person Numerous is and be familiar with his track record of lies before they can properly decide
It is not the question of my track record. It is an opportunity which if not taken now, will nit appear later. It is a golden chance to act as a true leader region in the comity of regions. I wished that Forestavia take total control. I even gave him full authority, but he was hell bent on the founder's seat. which of course I cant give. Will Forestavia give me the keys of Oakplumington, if I demand? No.
So this is an opportunity which MUST be grabbed by the Lunar Council. Let the Mystical Council be the guiding light for The Union. If the Mystical Council rejects this, I would have to knock on other regional doors. I feel that your region deserves this role, more than others.
May the Almighty bestow The Lunar Council with sagacity and farsightedness to rise above the pettiness of the issue and take the decision to drag the Union out of a bottomless pit that it has sunk into. The Union needs the Mystical Council's help more than ever now.
This is the last chance for your region to come to the aid of an ailing region.
I hereby sign off for today.
Difference here is that I see no one in The Mystical Council protesting him being the founder.
In The Union however, everyone who weighed in on the issue agrees you are a horrible choice.
It's not about you and him, it's about what the people think, and the people think you are an awful corrupt liar.
Forestavia, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
I urge everyone in the region to stay informed of the facts before acting. Look at how his speech is filled with propaganda and deception. [B]Do not allow Numerous Currencies to spread propaganda and lies that would destroy your region and its government, as he has done so in The Union[/B].
Lies or truth... I see opurtunity.
Forestavia, Malcholm
Give it a shot, Everloyal. Because you might be right. The funny thing about The Union is that its story never ends. There is always the next twist in the plot. I like how you look at things from a different perspective.
I can't take NC seriously after going through all that. The problem I see with the protectorate thing is it runs counter to my political philosophy. I don't really want The Union to become a protectorate or a colony of The Mystical Council or any region for that matter. I just want The Union to be its own free entity.
But hey, if our region can get two out of three branches to back some sort of colony legislation then I won't have a choice but to go along with it. I don't think the Lunar Council will back the idea. Hospitallers might. Sentagon might.
Malcholm
Post self-deleted by Everloyal.
I see you took my advice and threw it strait in the f***ing bin. Stop pissing about and if you seriously want democracy in The Union then set about electing a bloody president and a council and let them get on with running the region. Stop with the protectorate thing it's a hollow title at best that will be superseded by an elected president in the end anyway. Because one thing all of us who you came to have said is we want democracy in The Union and for the The Union to be free.
Hope you don't mind if i park my puppet nation here for a little bit Forestavia Uno?
Not at all! :)
Welcome to The Mystical Council! I'll add you to the Sentagon list when I update it tomorrow.
Parakka Northland
Cool silly question what's the Sentagon list?
What is NC and NFE?
Well to be honest, we don't need any protection.
Sentagon is our third branch of government. The list can be found at our info center under "regional government".
NC is short-hand for Numerous Currencies.
I don't know about NFE, but "Not freaking ever" sort of comes to mind.
NC wants us to partner with him to make The Union our colony. He has specifically reached out to the Lunar Council. My advice is don't do it. I just wasted two weeks on this guy.
Parakka Northland
I would also interject and say that he has approached at least 3 other regions about this colony idea...
Forestavia
Sorry, Hospitallers. I don't think I ever answered your question. The Religious Affairs act is here:
http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=454436
Since it was never passed, you can find it under Proposed Laws.
Malcholm
6 regions I heard.
He was throwing his bait around like crazy. He wasn't content with screwing up The Union, he wanted to drag other regions down with him.
And that opportunity is... what? You given the worthless office of "leader" in The Union by NC, as he tries to brainwash you into thinking he's on your side, in some sort of attempt to use you to secure his position in The Mystical Council? Is that the opportunity? Brother don't fool yourself.
Regnum will just waste your time and lie to you as he has done to Forestavia and Glorious Days.
The Union is simply a lost cause with Regnum being the founder, there's no way around it. And that falls back to the fact that any government in The Union is meaningless, because this kid will just banish anyone who wants things done different from what he says.
Now I believe Ecuadorian did that once when he kicked out Glorious from The Union, but at least we all in there seemed to be behind his decision and were rooting for the plan of emptying the region to refound. Regnum however will kick out people willy nilly, even if everyone in the region is against it.
And that's why The Union is a hopeless failure, its founder is a liar, who will not have the people of the region doing what he disapproves of.
And now he's trying to use some of you here to spread his disease to The Mystical Council. You must not allow that, you must not allow him to manipulate you as he manipulated the people of The Union; let him die in his rotting region.
Parakka Northland
Ok I have some clerical announcements.
1. I just wanted to remind everyone, in case you forgot with all of the recent excitement, that the Lunar Council is going to begin trying the Red Fleet invaders tomorrow.
2. Also, keep in mind that elections are coming up for the Lunar Council at the end of the month. I'll be sending a telegram out soon. I forgot who's up next I think it's AU912 and Vaspassia but I'm not sure. I'll double check. This is an especially good position for nations who are active. It's a demanding job I think. So if you run for office and win. Please be active.
3. Also....*hesitates* I know we've been working on this constitution since last summer. We have been editing things as we've gone along to deal with changes. First NationStates came out with officers (there were big changes there), then we had to get rid of the Interregional Council and replace it with Sentagon, more recently our region has grown and we had to adjust the way Sentagon passes legislation. We've come a really long way with the constitution, but it is taking FOREVER. It will pay off because, this region is going to end up with one of the freest systems of government on NationStates. I am torn between dealing with the constitution section by section like we've been doing or completely revising the whole thing in one sweep. While we continue voting in the polls section by section in our back-up region (Mystical Council), I'm going to revise everything that I think needs to be revised in a DIFFERENT dispatch (I'm not going to alter the original unless I get a proper ok). Then I'm going to send a telegram to everyone for their input. I'll take that input and create a THIRD version of the constitution (again a separate dispatch). We will then have three maybe eventually even four different documents to look at. I don't know about the rest of you, but I would really like to have a constitution by June. I hope this is helpful. I will start working on it "soonish" (this weekend or next weekend).
Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Parakka Northland
I'm not 100% against having anything to do with The Union. I'm just tired of the whole mess. After all the trouble, are they really worth effort? I just don't know.
Forestavia, Parakka Northland
It's like the case of helping out a man in distress, if you are capable. It's a call. A moral duty. And it is upto you to heed your heart or listen to some vested interests, like Parakkaor Rrepaimziaraseh .
A push , a shove is sometimes what somebody requires to start walking. The Union needs that gentle push from The Mystical Council.
Should we open a 'mascot' regional position?
Fascism Vector
Oh and to toss my coin or two into the political omelette while it cooks, I would encourage distance from the union, one only needs a bodyguard when they cannot shield themselves well enough, and if anything it might encourage someone like a certain red coloured group to take action.
Forestavia, Malcholm, Fascism Vector, Parakka Northland
hello, I am the Plane of Balance. I came recently from The Union. I was just looking around the forum and noticed that you guys are talking about my former home. I'll tell this now, as long as the
A-hole named The Empire of Numerous Currencies is the founder nothing peaceful can be done. He is a cold and evil dictator of the The Union, The Union is a hopeless case. Well... I'm sorry for the downer but he really hurts my pride as the former Councillor and I hope that I could fit in here.
Forestavia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland
Welcome to The Mystical Council, Plane of Balance! You are officially part of Sentagon (our third branch of government).
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I agree with Netherfar and AU912. I never meant for the region to fall into the slippery slope of getting involved in foreign affairs. It was something I wanted to do on my own. I've watched The Union crawling and withering for nearly a year and I had had enough. Now, I believe it is time to back away slowly. I urge the region not to get involved in any official capacity. Mainly because our region will get dragged through mud and messy politics that may need to get explained later. If anyone here feels that they absolutely need to try and "help" The Union, then I recommend doing it as individual nations. Just go out and do what you think is right. But as a region we should stop short of any official government-sanctioned involvement.
Netherfar, Malcholm, Fascism Vector, Parakka Northland
Ooooh, this sounds cool! Could you explain a little more about how that would work?
Fascism Vector
Hey, do we have any defenders here? I just want to throw an invitation out there - Orca Hq is always looking for recruits. Should we consider becoming a member of ORCA?
As seen from the poll, the Mystical Council has refused the offer.
Thanks for giving it due consideration. I shall open other options now.
BTW, Forestavia, are you a raider or a fenda? I have raided with you, but defending?
He's probably both, but unlike you, it doesn't look like he raids his own place and betrays his own people.
Malcholm
OK, that's today. How are we doing this?
Your 50 puppets are required once again here, in the Union. Life is where action is . Your mind is in The Union and your body is in TMC. Betray? I am playing this game since 2009 and I have been loyal before. I am now tasting the other side of the fence---that of being a hated guy. And it is fun, you should try it too sometimes, with one of yur 50 puppets.
50 puppets, O my my !!! I still remember those days when you bargained ! taking out one puppet a day for 45 days---remember?
Once again , who are you, Chef?
Fascism Vector
Good question! I never got around to releasing the Court schedule, so I'll do that in a few minutes.
There's a few different ways this can go, but every instance begins with me posting the initiation of the trial on the RMB. Something along the lines of "The Lunar Council Supreme Court hereby convenes to hear the case of The Lunar High Admiral v. The Mystical Council.". Both sides then present their cases. If the Admiral isn't here to present his case, and no one presents in their place, the court will immediately proceed to a verdict. If their case is presented, we'll proceed to the presentation of evidence, cross-examination by the defense, etc., and then proceed to a verdict.
Parakka Northland
http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=588033
The Court Schedule dispatch is now pinned to the WFB.
Raiders of TRF, it's due time that justice prevailed!
Forestavia
How is that going to work?
Hue hue~ :3 Hello.
Malcholm
Forestavia
15 minutes!
Just a heads up I just updated the Vedanian pantheon and how they now view there gods. There's some pretty big changes in there and religon plays a big role in my nation so I'd recommend gieving it a look over if you want to better understand Vedan.
Forestavia, Malcholm
Post self-deleted by Malcholm.
The Mystical Council's Lunar Council Supreme Court hereby convenes to hear the case of [nation=short]The Lunar High Admiral[/nation] v. The Mystical Council. The prosecution [any Lunar Councillor] is hereby called to the RMB to present their case.
Forestavia
I'll restate my post from several days ago:
The Lunar High Admiral is accused of violating the constitution of The Mystical Council by abusing its powers as delegates as follows:
Without any deliberation, trial, or support from the Sentagon or Lunar Council, The Lunar High Admiral unconstitutionally banned several nations from The Mystical Council, including two long - term residents, New England Bastards and Forestavia. In addition, The Lunar High Admiral unconstitutionally stripped all powers from the Lunar Council.
The Lunar High Admiral also appointed officers who also abused their powers by unconstitutionally suppressing a large number of RMB posts and attempted to replace the constitution with one that would have given that nation arguably dictatorial powers. While The Lunar High Admiral is not on trial for either of these acts, they may be informative in understanding motive.
Forestavia, Malcholm
The Vedanian Soviet is pleased with the recent rise in leftist politics and pushes for the creation of the Mystical Council Peoples Party which will be dedicated to spreading Communist ideals throughout the Region and beyond and the withdraw of the mystical council from Anticom which it claims is detramintal to it's members best interest.
Forestavia, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Since this is the first time, I'll allow one hour for the prosecution and defense to post their respective case files. If theres no progression by 8pm (EST), I'll act on behalf of the prosecution. I don't have much time to do anything other than mediate at the moment.
Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Nvm the prosecution bit, AU912 handled it. Now we await the defense!
The 8pm deadline still remains.
I have arrived!
Here is the evidence which I collected from that terrible day in regional history which I bring to our glorious Lunar Council!
http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=565851
Malcholm
BTW, Forestavia, are you a raider or a fenda? I have raided with you, but defending?[/quote]
Both. And I love it!
Malcholm
The Lunar Council Supreme Court accepts this as evidence.
**Forestavia's Dispatch was added to your Evidence tab.**
Forestavia
Hmm.....that's actually not a bad idea. I might have to do that one of these days... hehe ;)
Neither a defender nor raider, I am but the leader of a nation that somehow exists outside the material plane.
With a very lovely environment, who needs schools.
Well, as the defense has failed to present a case, it's finally time to reach a verdict. Lunar Councillors, an additional poll will soon be up in Sentagon so we can decide the punishment in the event of a guilty verdict.
I'm sending you the password. I'll grant your puppet polls authority.
Malcholm
We played a great game for the past two weeks with The Union. And man, did it get intense at times. But, since it's Friday and I'm ready to kick back, I just want to put the game in perspective. NC/Regnum XII might be the villain in The Union, but Bordurria is our raiding ally.
http://www.nationstates.net/region=the_wolf_syndicate/page=display_region_rmb?postid=17722058#p17722058
I just want to take an opportunity to say when it comes to politics, we might not always get along but we should never forget to have fun! And it's always good to look at things from a different point of view! :)
Enough mushy stuff!
So... when are we gonna burn The Lunar High Admiral at the stake?
Malcholm
[nation=short]monotheistic_deities[/nation]!
Can't we just have the The Lunar High Admiral Hanged, Drawn, and Quartered
Forestavia, Malcholm
And then, after that, we can ban every last piece of him! Muahahahahaha!
Malcholm
Legally, this time! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Malcholm
I will make the argument that it is even more fun when it is done illegally for excitement purposes.
The Vedanian Soviet pleads for a pardon for the Lunar Kigh admiral on the basis that it's the only other communist nation in the mystical council and Vedan needs friends. :p
Forestavia
http://www.nationstates.net/region=sentagon#poll
Malcholm here; the poll for The Lunar high Admiral's sentencing is finally up. We just need the votes of [nation=short]AU912 Mystical Council Consulate[/nation], [nation=short]Vaspassia[/nation], [nation=short]Tumetu-iin Noyan[/nation], and [nation=short]Jegerkompaniet[/nation].
If all five votes are not lodged by tomorrow's trial, we'll go with the option that gets the most votes.
If all five votes are lodged and there's a tie, we'll narrow it down to just the two.
If all five votes are lodged and there's no clear verdict, the two options voted on by the two most senior members of the Council will be pitted against each other.
Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
There will be no mercy for treacherous fools! The Lunar High Admiral sought to destroy our region from the inside out! The mighty denizens of The Mystical Council will not bend to the whims of the illegitimate 'Lunar Soviet'!
OOC: I digress.
Forestavia
The Lunar High council has come father than any other nation to save the proletariate of the mystical council from the ruinous maw of fascist capitalism!!!! We should reward there endeavors with cake and ice cream.
In other news the Vedanian Soviet has announced that it will be opening up the nations top notch university's to forighners free of charge. New students from outside of Vedan will be put through a class on Vedanian Communist ideals as well as Vedanian language history religon and culture to help them fit in with the rest of there classmates and settle into vedanian society before being offers the same classes and ammenitys as Vedanian students all free of charge (As it is for the Vedanians.) The architect of the plan comrade Kragon Khalin expresses hope that the new program will help spread vedanian culture (and communism) far beyond the nations borders and give students from poorer backgrounds a chance to make there way in the world.
OOC I'm going to brainwash your kids.
Forestavia, Malcholm
I just realized, that yesterday I had the largest Furniture Restoration Industry in the region, on the same day I came in. I have never been #1 in any region before.
This award is such a great honor. I would like to thank the academy, Jesus, and my mama for this. I wouldn't be restoring so many furniture if it wasn't for y'all.
Forestavia, Vedan, Malcholm, Parakka Northland
Ah so THERE the ones that's been going around and breaking everyone's furniture!?!?!?! DRAW AND QUARTER!!!!!!
Forestavia
Currently, we cannot vote as the poll is only open to residents of Sentagon.
AGH
Fixed it.
The trial has been pushed back to 9pm EST! I got really busy.
How is everyone? What's new?
What's up people? What's shaking?
I need sleep. See you all tomorrow.
Malcholm
We've finally reached a verdict on [nation=short]the_lunar_high_admiral[/nation]'s case!
I guess I'll postpone the court hearing one more time. the next case will officially begin at 6:00pm EST tomorrow. Hopefully I don't get spontaneously busy again.
[nation=short]The_snake_treaders[/nation], consider this your official court summons for the case of [nation=short]the_snake_treaders[/nation] v. The Mystical Council. You have until tomorrow to ready your defense.
Lunar Council Supreme Court, Room 3. 9:24PM.
"The Lunar Council Supreme Court hereby finds [nation=short]the_lunar_high_admiral[/nation] guilty on charges of violating the constitution of The Mystical Council by abusing its powers as Delegate of the region, unconstitutionally banning several nations from The Mystical Council, and unconstitutionally stripping all powers from the Lunar Council. [nation=short]The_lunar_high_admiral[/nation], you are hereby sentenced to banishment and ejection for three months, and you will be barred from running for or obtaining any government position for three months past the day you return.
Forestavia
Ive been to busy this weekend to be involved :P
Forestavia
Yo guys, please vote [B]against[/B] the current SC Proposal.
Ily o/
Malcholm
How is everyone? It has been quiet today.
Malcholm
Life plagues me.
It has. I spent most of the day working on getting an old Atari 2600 back in working order.
My first gaming platform was an Atari 2600 jr. Wish I still had it though.
Malcholm
What state is it that doesn't do daylight savings time? Is it Arizona? I might have to move there.
Malcholm
Me too. This looks like a busy week for me coming up also.
Fascism Vector
Arizona and Hawaii
The leaders of my nation are back from vacation, we were celebrating a national holiday.
Whats goin on?
Malcholm, Fascism Vector
Nothing Much is going on at this point.
Malcholm, Fascism Vector
I should be on for the trial today
Malcholm, Anarcho Capitalist Party
Happy Pi Day Everyone! 3/14
New Bacon, Malcholm, Everloyal
How are you oak?
Yessssss!
The trial might not start until a few minutes past 9. I get off work at 830, but I have to drop off a friend and pick up my laptop charger. If it doesn't start right at 9, it'll definetly start by 9:15.
Fascism Vector
Good. I'm just trying to catch up on some things. I'm going to update the Regional Government dispatch to include our new members. The Info Center is going to have some renovation done on it. I wanted to bake a pie today but that might not happen until April. How about you? Anything special for Pi Day?
The regional government is up-to-date. It can be found at the info center.
Vaspassia and AU912 seats are up for reelection on 3/23 - The Worm Moon. I'll be sending a telegram out soon. Think about if you would like to run for the Lunar Council (or for reelection). Just think of the power and the prestige.
Malcholm
Hopefully it wont take too long then, i got to go around 9:30, 9:45 max
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