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Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:That's a pleasant way to voice yourself, and I tell you the same thing I told Plugo. I don't see a reason not to have the poll I proposed to New Bacon.

If truly I am the only one with such opinion, my side of the argument will be crushed and you win. [B]You have nothing to lose, if your opinion is truly that of the majority.[/B]

What poll?

their is a poll in Mystical Council to see if people will approve the constitution with the new ammendment 6

New Bacon, Kladsko

Rondaland wrote:What poll?

their is a poll in Mystical Council to see if people will approve the constitution with the new ammendment 6

I think Rrepaimziaraseh wants to do a separate poll on just Amendment 6.

@Rrepaimziaraseh: would you be willing to do a nonbinding poll? And, if the Sentagon supports Amendment 6, will you drop this?

New Bacon, Malcholm

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate wrote:I think Rrepaimziaraseh wants to do a separate poll on just Amendment 6.

@Rrepaimziaraseh: would you be willing to do a nonbinding poll? And, if the Sentagon supports Amendment 6, will you drop this?

Almost all of sentagon is inactive though!!!

New Bacon, Malcholm, Kladsko

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:The issue at hand is that should elected officers, the face of our region, spend their time in other regions when they are serving or not. Right now you just adopted a solution to appease Plugo and his friends, and you refuse to listen to the region as a whole. The fact of the matter is that the collective voice of the region should be regarded much more importantly, than my voice, or Plugo and his friends' voice.

The voice of the region collectively on that issue should be above all, and must be the law, and if Plugo likes that voice, good for him, but if he doesn't, too bad, he can go ahead and resign and we can choose a much better council, [B]whose voice represents the region[/B].

That is all I want to offer, a chance for the whole region here to speak on this issue. And the result of that voice should be the law.

1. I am listening to the entire region. Everyone has a chance and a duty to themselves and their region to express their voice on this poll >> Mystical Council

If the constitution is good enough for them, they will vote in favor.

If the constitution is not good enough for them, they will vote against it.

If they are on the fence, they will abstain from voting.

2. Should elected officers be allowed to spend their time in other regions? Yes they can, according to our working constitution in Amendment 6.

If they fail to meet their duties then they can be impeached, Amendment 6 also.

3. True, the collective voice of the region IS regarded much more importantly than any one nation here. The working constitution accomplishes that task rather well, I believe. No nation and no single branch of government holds all the power in this region. If anything, they are forced to find ways to work together in order to accomplish anything.

4. You have the right as an elected representative of the people to propose a regional law on this issue. But please keep in mind that whatever it is, it shouldn't contradict the constitution. Otherwise the Lunar Council will be within their rights to declare the law unconstitutional. Write up a dispatch and I'll add it to the list of proposed regional laws in the Information Center. If you can get two branches behind you, then your proposal will pass and become regional law.

Malcholm, Order Of Hospitallers

Rondaland wrote:Almost all of sentagon is inactive though!!!

This was the poll suggestion I had with New Bacon.

New Bacon wrote:[nation=rrepaimziaraseh] said this,

On the matter of you, Plugo, easily being pushed hard, again I say this page=rmb/postid=19953045 and say that you take things too personally. Please don't. You are not the issue to me. Know that I don't want impeachment polls. That further makes it look that the issue is personal. The issue is the issue itself; what are we gonna do? Go trying to impeach each other whenever there's a disagreement? That's not the way to go. That will destroy us whenever there's a disagreement.

You are not my enemy, and I am not your enemy, I am your fellow region mate who has a different opinion than you. That is all.

So my proposal is that if you truly care about the region, again, a simple matter of effortlessly creating a dedicated puppet for the region, that you say you care so much about, should not be an issue at all.

And again "WE HAVE STATED SO MANY TIMES ON THE RMB THAT WE ARE DOING OUR DUTIES" I know this, I swear to you I know this, but it's not just the matter of responsibilities, it is also a matter of the image you send to the rest of the region and others, when they see the people they elected aren't even home.

And if you are still adamant on puppets, I think there should be a region wide vote, here in TMC, on this issue. Not impeachment and want not. I might be wrong, maybe the majority of people here don't care if their representatives are elsewhere. I recommend that New Bacon creates such poll, and request that he puts his effort into making it unbiased.

So you don't look like you want impeachment polls, I don't want impeachment polls, but I do want to know what the region truly thinks.

So what do you think? If you still don't want puppets, can we please stop treating this issue as something personal and agree to have a poll so that all our people can democratically voice themselves? I think that's a much better way to resolve an issue than nonsensical impeachments.

Rondaland wrote:Almost all of sentagon is inactive though!!!

Yes, in Sentagon, that is why a poll like this should be here. People here are active, and can see the poll right away, just look at how many people have voted on the current poll.

Forestavia wrote:1. I am listening to the entire region. Everyone has a chance and a duty to themselves and their region to express their voice on this poll >> Mystical Council

If the constitution is good enough for them, they will vote in favor.

If the constitution is not good enough for them, they will vote against it.

If they are on the fence, they will abstain from voting.

Not specifically on this issue, but just in general, why put the abstain on vote? I mean if people don't want to vote, they just don't vote. What do you think is the purpose of the abstain selection?

Forestavia

New Bacon wrote:can yall get along!!!

I think we're getting along just fine, personally. We're just having another lively debate about Amendment 6. We're behaving...aren't we guys? ;)

New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Kladsko

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:This was the poll suggestion I had with New Bacon.

Yes, in Sentagon, that is why a poll like this should be here. People here are active, and can see the poll right away, just look at how many people have voted on the current poll.

Am i not speaking english?

My god.

I am saying that sentagon, as a regional government branch, is inactive.

Look at the members of sentagon, most rarely come on.

Kladsko

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:Not specifically on this issue, but just in general, why put the abstain on vote? I mean if people don't want to vote, they just don't vote. What do you think is the purpose of the abstain selection?

Several reasons:

It accounts for gray area.

The abstain option allows nations who are neither for or against it to participate in government.

Abstain indicates that they don't care or that they have an opinion posted on the RMB somewhere.

Using all three options is inclusive and helps us to gauge who's active in the polls.

It could also indicate filibuster or neutrality.

For a WA member in Sentagon, it could indicate 1 vote for and 1 vote against.

Malcholm

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:Not specifically on this issue, but just in general, why put the abstain on vote? I mean if people don't want to vote, they just don't vote. What do you think is the purpose of the abstain selection?

Because we don't want to be forced to vote for a certain side, and we may not have a view or opinion.

Forestavia wrote:Several reasons:

It accounts for gray area.

The abstain option allows nations who are neither for or against it to participate in government.

Abstain indicates that they don't care or that they have an opinion posted on the RMB somewhere.

Using all three options is inclusive and helps us to gauge who's active in the polls.

It could also indicate filibuster or neutrality.

For a WA member in Sentagon, it could indicate 1 vote for and 1 vote against.

Fair enough.

Rondaland wrote:Am i not speaking english?

My god.

I am saying that sentagon, as a regional government branch, is inactive.

Look at the members of sentagon, most rarely come on.

And that is a reason to not have a poll for them to voice themselves?

i think we need a list of sentagon members so rrepaimziaraseh doesn't get confused

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:Fair enough.

And that is a reason to not have a poll for them to voice themselves?

WE HAVE A POLL TO VOICE OURSELFS!

THE POLL IS UP IN MYSTICAL COUNCIL!

Kladsko wrote:i think we need a list of sentagon members so rrepaimziaraseh doesn't get confused

Actually we do have a list. I know it's out of date but at the Info Center under Regional Government there is a list.

Malcholm

Forestavia wrote:Actually we do have a list. I know it's out of date but at the Info Center under Regional Government there is a list.

Get it up too date :p

Forestavia

Sentagon Votes:

For: - Kladsko, Rondaland

No: -

Abstain: - Fiordlandia, Fezchia

Kladsko wrote:WE HAVE A POLL TO VOICE OURSELFS!

THE POLL IS UP IN MYSTICAL COUNCIL!

The poll does not address the issue specifically, and there is no good reason to have a poll in there. Polls in that region should only be when we have polls only for MC members. Polls that are meant for everyone, should be held here, so that everyone can clearly and directly see them.

New Bacon, Parakka Northland

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:The poll does not address the issue specifically, and there is no good reason to have a poll in there. Polls in that region should only be when we have polls only for MC members. Polls that are meant for everyone, should be held here, so that everyone can clearly and directly see them.

Are you seriously confused?

This poll isn't meant for everyone, just for members of TMC.

The waffle pancake poll is here, so we often use MC for other polls, and sentagon JUST for sentagon things.

I am in sentagon and i am fine with ammendment 6.

You are trying to delay the constitution and trying to force sentagon to vote in your stupid ammendment 6 poll.

So far the majority of sentagon approves it.

You are not a member of sentagon.

Stay out of sentagons business.

New Bacon

I just sent a telegram to everyone. There shouldn't be any confusion about that poll now.

New Bacon

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:The poll does not address the issue specifically, and there is no good reason to have a poll in there. Polls in that region should only be when we have polls only for MC members. Polls that are meant for everyone, should be held here, so that everyone can clearly and directly see them.

Sentagon is autonomous.

You have no right to interfere with anything in sentagon.

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:Fair enough.

And that is a reason to not have a poll for them to voice themselves?

You are the only one who wants the poll, and you are not in sentagon.

If sentagon wants a poll i will make one.

No one in sentagon has said they wanted a poll, so i will not make one.

Order Of Hospitallers

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:The poll does not address the issue specifically...

After Malcholm's poll is finished, you are within your rights to post a public opinion poll dealing with Amendment 6. But I want to be clear that we are not passing the constitution in pieces. That is too messy. Nor do I advise passing laws that contradict the constitution.

If public opinion is largely against Amendment 6 (your poll) but for the constitution (my poll). Then I would wait to fight this battle after the constitution has been formally adopted. Then you can make a constitutional proposal to repeal Amendment 6. But for now, the composition of our government is such that Amendment 6 must remain. The constitution will not pass without it.

Malcholm

Forestavia wrote:After Malcholm's poll is finished, you are within your rights to post a public opinion poll dealing with Amendment 6. But I want to be clear that we are not passing the constitution in pieces. That is too messy. Nor do I advise passing laws that contradict the constitution.

If public opinion is largely against Amendment 6 (your poll) but for the constitution (my poll). Then I would wait to fight this battle after the constitution has been formally adopted. Then you can make a constitutional proposal to repeal Amendment 6. But for now, the composition of our government is such that Amendment 6 must remain. The constitution will not pass without it.

I approve of this temporary solution for the benefit of the region, but I must stress that it is temporary.

Forestavia, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:I approve of this temporary solution for the benefit of the region, but I must stress that it is temporary.

*breaks into dance*

New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Order Of Hospitallers

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:I approve of this temporary solution for the benefit of the region, but I must stress that it is temporary.

I thought all this was solved after the lunar council vote ;/

New Bacon

Order Of Hospitallers wrote:I thought all this was solved after the lunar council vote ;/

That was the Red Harbor thing, and I fully respect that decision, but considering that this is going to be a law in our constitution, I don't think we should limit the decision process to only the government.

And I hold this to be true to all laws. If I suggest a law in the future, and everyone in the council agrees to it, I still think the region as a whole should have a say on it as well.

The region of Mos Eisley Cantina has extended the hand of friendship in hopes of creating new connection. They are new, so I accepted their request, I hope they grow and become a valuable ally and friend.

Malcholm

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:That was the Red Harbor thing, and I fully respect that decision, but considering that this is going to be a law in our constitution, I don't think we should limit the decision process to only the government.

And I hold this to be true to all laws. If I suggest a law in the future, and everyone in the council agrees to it, I still think the region as a whole should have a say on it as well.

No, we had a vote for the leave time too.

Order Of Hospitallers wrote:No, we had a vote for the leave time too.

Regardless, laws are bigger than just us, this issue is not just some embassy or some edit to the WFE or something minor like that. Everyone should have a say on such important matter.

Please! Do not abort construction of embassies of [region=The Star League] it is [nation=short]fezchia[/nation]'s region

Malcholm, Tumetu-Iin Noyan

Rondaland wrote:MY GOD MY GOD.

PLEASE GOD, BLESS RREPAIMZIARASEH!

HE NEEDS IT SO MUCH!

I never said sentagon is me ya wank...

Again an insult I've noticed - no I haven't read all 65 messages but only the last 20 or so - Can we do something about this as I'm sick of reading this rubbish. I'm all for debating things but actually insulting someone is going to fair and something has got to be done, and seen to be done as this is what the 6th time.

Personally I'm past the point of caring over people being in the region if they are officers/council members. My stance is they should be but I'm not going to push it. Hence, why i am now abstaining the constitution tracker vote as this issue has made the entire thing so toxic that until the leadership actually inserts some authority I will not be voting.

New Bacon, Malcholm, Tumetu-Iin Noyan

New Bacon wrote:Please! Do not abort construction of embassies of [region=The Star League] it is [nation=short]fezchia[/nation]'s region

I am sorry but Order of Hospitallers will shut it and Mos Eisley Cantina down again.

Tumetu-Iin Noyan

Post self-deleted by New Bacon.

Yeah, I agree with Parakka. Let's ease up on the insults. It's too easy for things to get personal when insults are included in our debates.

New Bacon, Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:I am sorry but Order of Hospitallers will shut it and Mos Eisley Cantina down again.

If they do then I will talk to Oak about my emergency-executive order against them.

New Bacon wrote:If they do then I will talk to Oak about my emergency-executive order against them.

There's always something exciting happening in this region isn't there?

New Bacon, Malcholm

The Star League and Mos Eisley Cantina embassy construction has fallen into limbo.

New Bacon, Malcholm

Forestavia wrote:The Star League and Mos Eisley Cantina embassy construction has fallen into limbo.

Not the Star League

Tumetu-Iin Noyan

Parakka Northland wrote:Again an insult I've noticed - no I haven't read all 65 messages but only the last 20 or so - Can we do something about this as I'm sick of reading this rubbish. I'm all for debating things but actually insulting someone is going to fair and something has got to be done, and seen to be done as this is what the 6th time.

Personally I'm past the point of caring over people being in the region if they are officers/council members. My stance is they should be but I'm not going to push it. Hence, why i am now abstaining the constitution tracker vote as this issue has made the entire thing so toxic that until the leadership actually inserts some authority I will not be voting.

Would you like to draft some sort of regional law proposal that limits the way insults can be used?

We could call it the Regional Etiquette Act or something like that.

For example, insults are ok in IC or RP but not ok in OOC debates.

New Bacon, Malcholm, Parakka Northland

New Bacon wrote:If they do then I will talk to Oak about my emergency-executive order against them.

I have requested from their leader to repropose as I cannot do that. Prior to that they have sent me a telegram telling me that they are intrested to meet us.

Forestavia wrote:Would you like to draft some sort of regional law proposal that limits the way insults can be used?

We could call it the Regional Etiquette Act or something like that.

For example, insults are ok in IC or RP but not ok in OOC debates.

That is a good idea, not sure how to enforce it though. The problem it seems that some members of our regions treat conflict of opinion as personal attacks, they get angry, then they start throwing actual personal insults. That's not a good behavior.

Forestavia wrote:Would you like to draft some sort of regional law proposal that limits the way insults can be used?

We could call it the Regional Etiquette Act or something like that.

For example, insults are ok in IC or RP but not ok in OOC debates.

Sure I'll take a look at it over the next 24 hours as its getting late here and I've been up for 18 hours lol

Malcholm

Parakka Northland wrote:Sure I'll take a look at it over the next 24 hours as its getting late here and I've been up for 18 hours lol

Cool.

Sleep well! :)

Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Please note an addition to the info center Executive Actions by the Founder and Delegate:

http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=653814

Malcholm

I don't blame hospitallers for shutting down the embassy.

It looks like a tiny small useless region.

If you don't want a region aborted state your reason why and tell everyone.

None of us were told anything about that region so...

New Bacon

Forestavia wrote:Would you like to draft some sort of regional law proposal that limits the way insults can be used?

We could call it the Regional Etiquette Act or something like that.

For example, insults are ok in IC or RP but not ok in OOC debates.

Our region isn't ranked in the top 10% of most nicest :P.

Just suppress the post if someone's responce make you cry.

New Bacon

Tumetu-Iin Noyan wrote:I don't blame hospitallers for shutting down the embassy.

It looks like a tiny small useless region.

If you don't want a region aborted state your reason why and tell everyone.

None of us were told anything about that region so...

I mean fez's region.

New Bacon

Tumetu-Iin Noyan wrote:I don't blame hospitallers for shutting down the embassy.

It looks like a tiny small useless region.

If you don't want a region aborted state your reason why and tell everyone.

None of us were told anything about that region so...

I already said earlier the region is [nation=short]fezchia[/nation]'s he wanted to establish embassies with us. There is no regional law that prohibits the style of others' regions. I don't want it aborted. Just like hospitallers don't want red harbor closed. The embassy construction shall proceed by executive order.

Malcholm

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:That is a good idea, not sure how to enforce it though. The problem it seems that some members of our regions treat conflict of opinion as personal attacks, they get angry, then they start throwing actual personal insults. That's not a good behavior.

Maybe Parakka could insert a scale. Something like:

1st offense - warning

2nd offense - warning with post suppression

3rd offense - loss of communications authority if applicable

4th offense - impeachment process initiates, if applicable

5th offense - ejection (may return)

6th offense - trial before the Lunar Council with the punishment of banishment if guilty.

Malcholm

New Bacon wrote:I already said earlier the region is [nation=short]fezchia[/nation]'s he wanted to establish embassies with us. There is no regional law that prohibits the style of others' regions. I don't want it aborted. Just like hospitallers don't want red harbor closed. The embassy construction shall proceed by executive order.

???????????

I KNOW

I said none of us were told what the region was.

Forestavia wrote:Maybe Parakka could insert a scale. Something like:

1st offense - warning

2nd offense - warning with post suppression

3rd offense - loss of communications authority if applicable

4th offense - impeachment process initiates, if applicable

5th offense - ejection (may return)

6th offense - trial before the Lunar Council with the punishment of banishment if guilty.

BOOO!

FREEDOM OF SPEECH!

Forestavia

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:I have requested from their leader to repropose as I cannot do that. Prior to that they have sent me a telegram telling me that they are intrested to meet us.That is a good idea, not sure how to enforce it though. The problem it seems that some members of our regions treat conflict of opinion as personal attacks, they get angry, then they start throwing actual personal insults. That's not a good behavior.

When did anyone make a personal attack against you?

New Bacon

I dont think lunar council members can handle having the embassy authority honestly.

New Bacon, Malcholm

Tumetu-Iin Noyan wrote:BOOO!

FREEDOM OF SPEECH!

Oh, here we go again.... :P

New Bacon, Malcholm

Tumetu-Iin Noyan wrote:BOOO!

FREEDOM OF SPEECH!

http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=653814

Tumetu (executive order) you should not be confused.

New Bacon wrote:http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=653814

Tumetu (executive order) you should not be confused.

My god bacon, im not confused.

Im just saying that hospitallers closed the embassy but none of us knew what the embassy was at the time of the closure.

New Bacon

Forestavia wrote:Oh, here we go again.... :P

Rrep is the one who used to always protest about post suppression, even when it wasn't involving him.

Now he wants some people to be suppressed.

If you can't handle the heat get out of The Kitchen. (;

New Bacon, Malcholm

Tumetu-Iin Noyan wrote:My god bacon, im not confused.

Im just saying that hospitallers closed the embassy but none of us knew what the embassy was at the time of the closure.

Lol the way you sound *snickers* sorry I'm in a good mood.

Malcholm

Time to make a new union that gives all nations the freedom of speech (except curse words, thats why nordrlond was deleted [apparently])

New Bacon

hi?

Forestavia, New Bacon, Malcholm

This government is starting to turn into the USA Congeress.

Republicans VS Democrats

Rrep VS The NCA

We can't get junk done just because of peoples feelings

New Bacon

Death By Dogs wrote:hi?

Hello welcome to the mystical council!

Forestavia

Death By Dogs wrote:hi?

Please keep your dog on a leash.

New Bacon, Malcholm

Plugo wrote:This government is starting to turn into the USA Congeress.

Republicans VS Democrats

Rrep VS The NCA

We can't get junk done just because of peoples feelings

Hey chill out ;) I Roleplay the USA

Malcholm

Plugo wrote:Please keep your dog on a leash.

seriously? *rolls eyes*

New Bacon

Tumetu-Iin Noyan wrote:???????????

I KNOW

I said none of us were told what the region was.

Made a public post about Mos Eisley Cantina here, but I don't think Hospitallers cares https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=19988477

Tumetu-Iin Noyan wrote:When did anyone make a personal attack against you?

Oh the so many posts that Plugo and Hospitallers talked to me like I am a "kid" beneath them who doesn't deserve a voice. Anyway, I think it has already proven that those two took regional issues and acted like it was personal.

Tumetu-Iin Noyan wrote:Rrep is the one who used to always protest about post suppression, even when it wasn't involving him.

Now he wants some people to be suppressed.

If you can't handle the heat get out of The Kitchen. (;

1. My name is actually [B]Chef[/B].

2. I think only spam, and insults from outsiders are worthy of suppression. That's why I once suppressed some guy from Bunicken who was insulting us.

3. What is wrong with you? Why would you make an emoji like that (; ? That's perhaps the most offensive thing you have yet to do.

New Bacon, Malcholm

Death By Dogs wrote:seriously? *rolls eyes*

Um plugo meant hi and he welcomes you to the region. PLUGO WHERE ARE YOUR MANNERS SIR?

Death By Dogs wrote:seriously? *rolls eyes*

Lol no, but if it bites any of my citizens it will die.

(Citizens in the top 0.6% for most weapons)

(52 weapons per person)

Forestavia, New Bacon, Malcholm

Tumetu-Iin Noyan wrote:I dont think lunar council members can handle having the embassy authority honestly.

I knew that there would be embassy conflict with this many nations holding embassy authority. Looks like maybe I was wrong to assume more power was a good thing in this instance.

Maybe we need an embassy amendment. This is a draft outline.

Conflict within one branch:

LC1 makes one decision and LC2 makes another decision >>> Limbo situation >>> Lunar Council holds vote for Lunar Council decision >>> Decision Vetoed by Delegate >> Sentagon >> Regional Law

Conflict amongst two or more branches:

Government member 1 makes one decision >> government member 2 makes different decision >> Limbo situation >> Delegate may resolve with executive action >> Lunar Council may override executive action with 3/5 or better majority >> If Sentagon backs either Delegate or Lunar Council then >>> regional law is formed in regard to embassy.

New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Parakka Northland

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:Made a public post about Mos Eisley Cantina here, but I don't think Hospitallers cares https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=19988477

Oh the so many posts that Plugo and Hospitallers talked to me like I am a "kid" beneath them who doesn't deserve a voice. Anyway, I think it has already proven that those two took regional issues and acted like it was personal.

1. My name is actually [B]Chef[/B].

2. I think only spam, and insults from outsiders are worthy of suppression. That's why I once suppressed some guy from Bunicken who was insulting us.

3. What is wrong with you? Why would you make an emoji like that (; ? That's perhaps the most offensive thing you have yet to do.

You take it as a personal attack when someone doesn't see an rmb post.

Insted of freaking out just send them a tg.

New Bacon, Order Of Hospitallers

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:Made a public post about Mos Eisley Cantina here, but I don't think Hospitallers cares https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=19988477

Oh the so many posts that Plugo and Hospitallers talked to me like I am a "kid" beneath them who doesn't deserve a voice. Anyway, I think it has already proven that those two took regional issues and acted like it was personal.

1. My name is actually [B]Chef[/B].

2. I think only spam, and insults from outsiders are worthy of suppression. That's why I once suppressed some guy from Bunicken who was insulting us.

3. What is wrong with you? Why would you make an emoji like that (; ? That's perhaps the most offensive thing you have yet to do.

I have no problem with kids, not my fault if you took it in negative context.

New Bacon

Forestavia wrote:I knew that there would be embassy conflict with this many nations holding embassy authority. Looks like maybe I was wrong to assume more power was a good thing in this instance.

Maybe we need an embassy amendment. This is a draft outline.

Conflict within one branch:

LC1 makes one decision and LC2 makes another decision >>> Limbo situation >>> Lunar Council holds vote for Lunar Council decision >>> Decision Vetoed by Delegate >> Sentagon >> Regional Law

Conflict amongst two or more branches:

Government member 1 makes one decision >> government member 2 makes different decision >> Limbo situation >> Delegate may resolve with executive action >> Lunar Council may override executive action with 3/5 or better majority >> If Sentagon backs either Delegate or Lunar Council then >>> regional law is formed in regard to embassy.

Wait, the lunar council can override the delegates executive action!? :O

New Bacon, Malcholm

Plugo wrote:I have no problem with kids, not my fault if you took it in negative context.

Whatever you say buddy, I do hope that you learn one day to treat your peers with equal respect.

New Bacon

Death By Dogs is the first recruit of our newest recruitment message.

Welcome friend, I hope you enjoy it here. We talk here, about a lot of stuff.

New Bacon, Malcholm

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:Whatever you say buddy, I do hope that you learn one day to treat your peers with equal respect.

I give respect to those who give it back.

New Bacon

one of my dogs is laying on the couch to old to run away and the other is in heaven! he died when i was at my grandma's house so i never got to say good bye before he was put down. *cries* I still miss Chester! And don't get me started about Troublee, she was put down because she had a really really bad infection over her eye making her partly blind and i didn't find out until about a month after it happened!

*If you do not give respect to not expect it back*

Plugo wrote:I give respect to those who give it back.

Plugo wrote:Wait, the lunar council can override the delegates executive action!? :O

Yes

Death By Dogs wrote: one of my dogs is laying on the couch to old to run away and the other is in heaven! he died when i was at my grandma's house so i never got to say good bye before he was put down. *cries* I still miss Chester! And don't get me started about Troublee, she was put down because she had a really really bad infection over her eye making her partly blind and i didn't find out until about a month after it happened!

That sucks, my cat died and i didnt see it for 3 weeks :(

New Bacon

New Bacon wrote:Yes

Luckily for you we have no reason to over ride it.

New Bacon

Plugo wrote:You take it as a personal attack when someone doesn't see an rmb post.

Insted of freaking out just send them a tg.

Rrep is too imatture to send me a tg, he has to rant on the rmb about it acting like i did it just to personally upset him.

New Bacon

Plugo wrote:I give respect to those who give it back.

Yet despite the fact that I have reiterated a thousand times that, and I quote myself, "You are not my enemy, and I am not your enemy, I am your fellow region mate who has a different opinion than you. That is all", you keep acting like I have insulted your mother.

Forestavia wrote:I knew that there would be embassy conflict with this many nations holding embassy authority. Looks like maybe I was wrong to assume more power was a good thing in this instance.

Maybe we need an embassy amendment. This is a draft outline.

Conflict within one branch:

LC1 makes one decision and LC2 makes another decision >>> Limbo situation >>> Lunar Council holds vote for Lunar Council decision >>> Decision Vetoed by Delegate >> Sentagon >> Regional Law

Conflict amongst two or more branches:

Government member 1 makes one decision >> government member 2 makes different decision >> Limbo situation >> Delegate may resolve with executive action >> Lunar Council may override executive action with 3/5 or better majority >> If Sentagon backs either Delegate or Lunar Council then >>> regional law is formed in regard to embassy.

I actually don't mind much if only the heads of branches had embassy powers.

New Bacon, Malcholm

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:Yet despite the fact that I have reiterated a thousand times that, and I quote myself, "You are not my enemy, and I am not your enemy, I am your fellow region mate who has a different opinion than you. That is all", you keep acting like I have insulted your mother.I actually don't mind much if only the heads of branches had embassy powers.

Too bad, embassy powers were NEVER a problem before, i wonder why its such an issue now.. (;

New Bacon, Malcholm

Death By Dogs wrote: one of my dogs is laying on the couch to old to run away and the other is in heaven! he died when i was at my grandma's house so i never got to say good bye before he was put down. *cries* I still miss Chester! And don't get me started about Troublee, she was put down because she had a really really bad infection over her eye making her partly blind and i didn't find out until about a month after it happened!

Oh, man. That's terrible. I'm sorry to hear that.

New Bacon

Plugo wrote:Lol no, but if it bites any of my citizens it will die.

(Citizens in the top 0.6% for most weapons)

(52 weapons per person)

If you kill my dog i swear i will hunt you down and rip you apart with my bare hands!!!!!!!!!!!!

Forestavia wrote:I knew that there would be embassy conflict with this many nations holding embassy authority. Looks like maybe I was wrong to assume more power was a good thing in this instance.

Maybe we need an embassy amendment. This is a draft outline.

Conflict within one branch:

LC1 makes one decision and LC2 makes another decision >>> Limbo situation >>> Lunar Council holds vote for Lunar Council decision >>> Decision Vetoed by Delegate >> Sentagon >> Regional Law

Conflict amongst two or more branches:

Government member 1 makes one decision >> government member 2 makes different decision >> Limbo situation >> Delegate may resolve with executive action >> Lunar Council may override executive action with 3/5 or better majority >> If Sentagon backs either Delegate or Lunar Council then >>> regional law is formed in regard to embassy.

That's pretty much what we did when I was on TV Tropes - OK to edit someone else's decision, but to change it back you need to escalate so we don't get an edit war.

New Bacon, Malcholm

Death By Dogs wrote:If you kill my dog i swear i will hunt you down and rip you apart with my bare hands!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fine i wont.

*Sticks hand out and opens palm*

*Coughs*

New Bacon

Death By Dogs wrote:If you kill my dog i swear i will hunt you down and rip you apart with my bare hands!!!!!!!!!!!!

Woah easy on the violence. Your dogs are welcome in New Bacon as that is illegal.

Order Of Hospitallers

Order Of Hospitallers wrote:Rrep is too imatture to send me a tg, he has to rant on the rmb about it acting like i did it just to personally upset him.

When I send you telegrams, you ignore me. That's what I did about Red Harbor. You acted selfishly, as if you are better than me, and did not respond to any of my questions. Plugo did the exact thing. And when he did reply, he told me to shut up and stop talking because these are "top secret" stuff that don't concern me.

I would not mind dealing our business privately, but you seem to ignore it, call me a kid and a prick, and not give a serious response until everyone sees it here on the RMB. You left me empty handed.

And not only that, you even lied at one point and claimed that didn't get any telegrams, when that was clearly not the case https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=19874574

So after all of your behavior, are you sure I am the one who's immature? Perhaps you are looking at the liar in the mirror.

New Bacon

Plugo wrote:Wait, the lunar council can override the delegates executive action!? :O

Yep. It's called a Lunar Council Ruling or Decision. And likewise, New Bacon could technically veto your Lunar Council Decision about Red Harbor.

I realized I made a serious mistake the other day when I said that two branches would be needed to override the Lunar Council Decision. From a regional law perspective the Delegate would be within rights to use the power of the veto which would force Sentagon to be the final decision maker.

New Bacon, Malcholm

New Bacon wrote:Woah easy on the violence. Your dogs are welcome in New Bacon as that is illegal.

i'm sorry but i have had enough of all these bullies on nation states. First Domini est terra, then Artic States, and now him.

New Bacon

Death By Dogs wrote:i'm sorry but i have had enough of all these bullies on nation states. First Domini est terra, then Artic States, and now him.

I was just kidding calm down.

New Bacon, Order Of Hospitallers

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:When I send you telegrams, you ignore me. That's what I did about Red Harbor. You acted selfishly, as if you are better than me, and did not respond to any of my questions. Plugo did the exact thing. And when he did reply, he told me to shut up and stop talking because these are "top secret" stuff that don't concern me.

I would not mind dealing our business privately, but you seem to ignore it, call me a kid and a prick, and not give a serious response until everyone sees it here on the RMB. You left me empty handed.

And not only that, you even lied at one point and claimed that didn't get any telegrams, when that was clearly not the case https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=19874574

So after all of your behavior, are you sure I am the one who's immature? Perhaps you are looking at the liar in the mirror.

i already told you i didn't ignore you, my uncle was in the hospital and my cat just died.

Uncle died yesterday if that will make you feel better.

i didn't "lie".

i said i didn't get any telegram.

You then posted it on the rmb.

You can only hold 20 telegrams by the way, and i am an important man with many things to discuss with many people.

Death By Dogs wrote:i'm sorry but i have had enough of all these bullies on nation states. First Domini est terra, then Artic States, and now him.

We're not a serious region by any means. Let me back that up. We take our laws and government very seriously but everything else is just silliness. We're here to have fun. :)

New Bacon, Malcholm, Order Of Hospitallers

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:When I send you telegrams, you ignore me. That's what I did about Red Harbor. You acted selfishly, as if you are better than me, and did not respond to any of my questions. Plugo did the exact thing. And when he did reply, he told me to shut up and stop talking because these are "top secret" stuff that don't concern me.

I would not mind dealing our business privately, but you seem to ignore it, call me a kid and a prick, and not give a serious response until everyone sees it here on the RMB. You left me empty handed.

And not only that, you even lied at one point and claimed that didn't get any telegrams, when that was clearly not the case https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=19874574

So after all of your behavior, are you sure I am the one who's immature? Perhaps you are looking at the liar in the mirror.

You really need to take a literacy class.

We tell you the same stuff multiple times but in your posts you always mention the stuff back even though it was anwsered.

New Bacon

i am so very sorry i'm very touchy on the subject of death, as i have come close to dying many times

Alright guys. Now's your chance prove me right. Hospitallers and Chef, would you both like to take the conversation to telegram please.

Malcholm

rather when you live with my older sister who is 12 years old and almost 6 feet tall you know what pain is

Forestavia, New Bacon, Order Of Hospitallers

Death By Dogs wrote:rather when you live with my older sister who is 12 years old and almost 6 feet tall you know what pain is

Oh my goodness! Wow! You've got your work cut out for you there. Good luck, you'll need it.

New Bacon, Malcholm

Forestavia wrote:We're not a serious region by any means. Let me back that up. We take our laws and government very seriously but everything else is just silliness. We're here to have fun. :)

Death By Dogs wrote:i'm sorry but i have had enough of all these bullies on nation states. First Domini est terra, then Artic States, and now him.

Yeah and we like to do Roleplay too. It's fun when we Roleplay.

Malcholm

Forestavia wrote:Alright guys. Now's your chance prove me right. Hospitallers and Chef, would you both like to take the conversation to telegram please.

Chef got out of the kitchen.

What do we have to discuss?

This all just turned to banter i don't even remeber what the topic was.

New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

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