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Region: The Mystical Council
It is called dramatization, and telling me I am crying over something isn't helping
I vote for who I want to first of all. Secondly if there is an important law being passed I will come back. I'm watching this region like a hawk. Even though I'm a part of the battle guards military.
Republic Of Greater Cuba
i didn't say you couldn't vote for who you want, don't get offended.
New Bacon, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Frankiestine, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
To be honest I started to.
New Bacon, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Tumetu-Iin Noyan, Exotic Lemon
I would just stay here unless TBG had a mission, but that's just me.
New Bacon, Frankiestine, Exotic Lemon
They just like our policies. There is no law against voting for who you support.
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Civilisunio
Did you get my tg?
Exotic Lemon
Yeah I am flooded right now though, haven't really read it yet
Civilisunio
Oh. Has [nation=short]the_christonian_imperium[/nation] tg'd you?
Exotic Lemon
No. Got a telegram from everyone else except him
Civilisunio
Ya. He's quiet.
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Exotic Lemon
Post self-deleted by Tumetu-Iin Noyan.
who you gonna vote for?
New Bacon, Exotic Lemon
I posted before I saw it. I should have deleted it. My bad.
Tumetu-Iin Noyan
Not sure yet. I am waiting for one of the candidates to really draw in my vote. Both are really good so I am not sure who to pick
New Bacon, Tumetu-Iin Noyan, Naumadal
No my bad, something bad always happens to me before i come on NS making me salty.
New Bacon, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Exotic Lemon, Naumadal
Indeed, they both agree on a lot of things and are both good, but because germania has made a lot of regional law and stuff that has been passed, they will get my vote because i know they will utilize the office.
New Bacon, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Exotic Lemon
I am leaning towards plugo right now but my vote can be changed
New Bacon, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Naumadal
I'm guessing that the Districts are still in place, since we haven't voted to get rid of them.
They have not been approved yet and right now they are looking like they are more trouble than they are worth, at least at the moment
New Bacon, Republic Of Greater Cuba
I have to go eat dinner, brb
New Bacon, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Civilisunio
I'm guessing that you still don't have a factbook actually explaining their use, function and why we need them, and that this is the 13th time i have asked.
Tumetu-Iin Noyan, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=lampar/detail=factbook/id=692635 he posted this, very vague though.
Republic Of Greater Cuba
Was my idea any better? Constructive criticism is welcome
Rondaland
At this point it feels like we are adding more and more to the government just for the sake of it. The Districts idea seems pointless. Might be of some use when we're a +200 region, but now it just seems like another annoying thing to worry about organizing.
Forestavia, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Tumetu-Iin Noyan, Civilisunio, Rondaland
Agreed. My project is going to blow you away now that you said that.;)
Rondaland
I agree, and considering that (although it is a lil exaggerated) plugo has asked for something explaining it 7+ times, and mentioned that their are no elections for the reps and other things, i think this is a push through proposal that needs to be rejected.
(if you cant make time to explain it, dont propose it)
Forestavia, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Exotic Lemon
the federal democratic council II?
Civilisunio
Sort of, ill hint
[Spoiler]Forged Democratic Republic (Name to be changed soon reason)[/spoiler]
Sorry, I've been pretty busy.
But, I don't see you helping as much. Also that you've left the region.
Republic Of Greater Cuba
He still lives here. And you still haven't answered his question
Civilisunio
Guess who's top of today's pooooooooooooooooooooll?
[B]BOW BEFORE LORD MUGWOP!
BOW BEFORE LORD MUGWOP OR SUFFER![/B]
Well maybe I haven't thought out all way.
If you would stop pressuring me, then that'd be better.
Civilisunio
I am not pressuring you. It's just you have been very vague
Civilisunio
Well it doesn't matter if he doesn't explain it now. So far it seems like a horrible idea, and unless he comes up with a brilliant case for it, this will be the opinion of it. And when the district idea is voted on to make it official, most of us will just vote down this useless thing and move on.
Exotic Lemon, Northwest Germania, Rondaland
My dispatch just got passed as law, and i manage and update almost every factbook, so i pull my weight.
Yes i moved [nation=short]plugo[/nation] out of here, but plugo isn't my main nation anymore so it doesn't matter.
Damn, me and mugwop agree on something..
Tumetu-Iin Noyan, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon, Rondaland
Both plugo and mugwop contribute, Lampar. No need to attack them
Tumetu-Iin Noyan, Rondaland
if you don't want pressure then don't enter politics.
you have promised this district thing for at least 5 days, but laid down no doctrine or plan for it, you shouldn't have mentioned it if you weren't ready.
I agree that our government progression shouldn't be held back due to "proposed" ideas.
Tumetu-Iin Noyan, Exotic Lemon
Hm...now, I can't argue with that.
Tumetu-Iin Noyan, Exotic Lemon
Tomorrow I will un-veil my project that will replace the current government (if passed) and is more efficent than this government (I had to do actual math).
Tumetu-Iin Noyan, Exotic Lemon
No, just no. I don't care if it's the best idea in the universe. NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNo, NO NO NO NO NO. Why didn't you put it ahead when this poll https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=67882 was made? Why didn't you put it ahead when this OTHER poll https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=68318 was made?
[B]STOP![/B]
We can't have someone come up every minute with some proposal that undoes the government and rebuilds everything.
[B]STOP IT! PLS.[/B] I understand you might have good intentions, hell your idea might be even better than the current system, but this is just too much mess. This is now the official government system https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=683620 The only tweaking that we might do to it in the soon future is limit the number of LC seats from 7 to 5.
[B]BUT THAT'S IT! NO MORE SCRAPPING AND REBUILDING THE WHOLE DAMN GOVERNMENT FOR AT LEAST FEW MONTHS![/B]
[nation=short]Oakplumington[/nation], [nation=short]Exotic Lemon[/nation] one of you please use your emergency powers to decree a limit on how often we get to vote on whether or not to reconstruct the whole stupid goverment.
[B]STOPPPPPPPPPPPP! WE CAN'T DO THIS EVERYDAY! IT'S TOO MUCH! TOO MUCH!!! *JUMPS OUT OF THE WINDOW* [/B]
Civilisunio, Exotic Lemon, Northwest Germania
Northwest Germania
We are in one giant clusterf*ck
Please continue with your rant. I am sure it will solve all our problems
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Tumetu-Iin Noyan, Parakka Northland, Northwest Germania
Buddy, sarcasm ain't helping this current predicament
You got my tg correct?
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Northwest Germania
Yes, check my factbook
New Bacon
True. But you complaining about it doesn't help either
Parakka Northland, Northwest Germania
Ok great! :)
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Northwest Germania
and with that reasoning, telling them they are sarcastic and complaining ain't helping either
Parakka Northland
FYI [nation=short]Forestavia[/nation]
This needs looking at as effectively it's election tampering
No law against people voting for whoever they want. Though people turning up from other regions and then voting for the same person before leaving again does raise a VERY BIG QUESTION MARK over election validity. As delegate of the region I challenge you to address this. We can not have people who primarily reside in other region just turning up to vote in our polls and then leave. Former residences or not, if they want to vote in our regions affairs then they should have a nation here
Forestavia, Tumetu-Iin Noyan, Northwest Germania
Doesn't matter. I was in the Battle Guard. The Battle Guard is a part of TMC. If I come back and vote for exotic or bacon or anybody of that matter it's my vote. [nation=short]forestavia[/nation] knows that i am a resident of this region. Do not play with me. I don't have to move another nation in here if I don't want to.
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Civilisunio, Northwest Germania
Parakka he has lived here a long time definitely longer than me and possibly longer than you. Just because he left for a couple hours up to a couple days does not exclude his vote.
Parakka Northland, Northwest Germania
I am not trying to "play" with you and I don't overly care who you vote for or not. You voting for someone isn't the issue. It's the fact people are coming here to vote and then leaving again. Now that's the issue that needs looking at because it isn't covered within our voting rules.
New Bacon, Tumetu-Iin Noyan, Northwest Germania
Read my reply below and it kinda does effect things somewhat as effectively your saying that nations who reside in other regions can vote on our affairs when they don't reside here
Tumetu-Iin Noyan, Exotic Lemon, Northwest Germania
A constitutional monarchy isn't a democracy nor does it help. Its just a leader that can issue decrees and a lunar council. Sounds to me like our old system without sentagon. Why did we have that big reLocation movement? This government isn't doing it correctly.
Look, ill redo my entire project so that the monarchy can rule, but it will be a slight reform and it doesnt matter What you, or anybody say this government needs tweaking. I will be going to school and a couple minutes and then fb practice so try not to say [I]Too[/I] much while im gone.
Parakka Northland, Northwest Germania
He left for a couple hours. It is good, healthy even that you are trying to prevent fraud. If be left for a month and came back I would say the same thing. But since it is just for so little time and he has been here so long I find it is just stirring up trouble
Parakka Northland
The problem of this region is that it believes that only some nations will have the final say always the rest should kowtow with what they say. Bye.
Civilisunio, Exotic Lemon
Bye
Tumetu-Iin Noyan, Northwest Germania
Only the "Weatlthy' may vote in this region is what i got from [nation=short]mamaine[/nation]'s speach.
Exotic Lemon, Northwest Germania
Speech
Post self-deleted by Exotic Lemon.
[nation=short]exotic_lemon[/nation] what did you say.
Nothing important.
Civilisunio
Tg me it.
Why? It was literally so irrelevant and worthless that I deleted it to prevent people from getting off topic
Civilisunio, Northwest Germania
Just curious what it was. I'm off now see ya.
considering non government officers have gotten their proposals and ideas into law, i would say your argument is invalid.
Tumetu-Iin Noyan, Civilisunio, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
No no no no no. If you had something to say, you should have said it earlier. Why bring it up only now? This is too much of a mess. And then right after you some other brilliant guy comes up with a project to re do the whole government and wants us all to vote and restructure the whole region based on their "project" and then someone else has yet another brilliant idea, and then another and another and another.
No, stop it! Stop it right now.
Look I am not against these ideas. If anything, I support people coming up with ideas that might improve our government, [B]but we cannot change the government every other second. It's a goddamn mess.[/B]
You have an idea today to rebuild the whole region, after we did so yesterday? Great, well that other guy has another idea and he will post it tomorrow. Your intentions are good, but hold on to your ideas, wait few months for the region to [B]FIND SOME GODDAMN BALANCE AND TEST OUT THE CURRENT NEW SYSTEM[/B]. Then we can discuss again whether or not to destroy the whole government system and make a new one. [B]ALLOW THE CURRENT SYSTEM TO BE TESTED FOR A WHILE.[/B] Remaking the government every day is a bad idea, it's anarchy.
Forestavia, Tumetu-Iin Noyan, Civilisunio, Northwest Germania
I kind of agree, people have had many times to voice their opinions or suggested changes.
We have just voted on what proposal to implement, so we are going with it. All this proposing new stuff in vague ways and taking forever to complete it is WORSE then forestavia's decrees.
Forestavia, Civilisunio, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon, Northwest Germania
I agree. And I cannot stand his decrees, I almost left because of them
Northwest Germania
You do realise the irony in that ^^ people want [nation=short]Forestavia[/nation] to take a more "commanding role" shell we say, but when he does that they complain about it.
No I'm not criticising you personally just merely making an observation because your not the only one who has said that.
[nation=short]Frankiestine[/nation],
Your vote will count but we need to know where your WA is.
I strongly recommend bringing WA to Frankiestine that way we can be sure that nothing shady is happening.
Your vote will be invalid if one of these do things don't happen.
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=naumadal/detail=factbook/id=688663
(Issued by Executive Order 39th Delegate, Strengthened by Royal Decree of the Emperor)
Parakka Northland
FYI - Frankiestine is a member of the House of Lords
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=plugo/detail=factbook/id=689116
That is precisely what we are trying to prevent from happening here.
Parakka Northland
Just in case anyone is questioning where my WA is, it's in Space under [nation=short]Forestavia One[/nation].
Strongly disagree. In democracys all 'proposals' are taken into consideration and are voted on by the public and government. If you were to think about it, if Anybody or I Were to submit and release a proposal it it was rejected because people were like 'Its to much proposals we are done' Thats limiting my rights as Well as others. We aren't strongly a rp region We are a political region meaning to keep this region going we must always have some type of political operations going on that everybody can participate in of they wanted to such as proposals, elections, so on and so forth.
As seen by my eyes and although I rather not get into this, we aren't doing ANYTHING right now. Maybe the prime ministers, but we should be writing an entirely new constitution, setting up the government and electiona, then electing the people who will be holding those seats. Not voting for a prime minister when we haven't even setup a government.
Parakka Northland
Take this dispatch and expand on it.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=683620
It could use some editing. Complete sentences, more specifics, details etc.
All this dispatch is right now is a framework. But like you said we need a constitution.
Civilisunio, Parakka Northland
I'm on the job.
Forestavia, Exotic Lemon
Since he isn't WA at the moment, and has no proved WA account, i will move him to commons.
Forestavia, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
[nation=short]forestavia[/nation] anything you need me to do?
Forestavia
You can move me to Commons as well. I should be bringing my WA back here soon but who knows.
Sure, since you are the Viceroy, you can appoint someone to serve as Grand Duke and also follow up with Pyrosky in regard to that military stuff we talked about in telegram a day or so ago.
Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon, Northwest Germania
I am still interviewing candidates via telegram fit grand duke. As for the military bacon and I are in agreement
Forestavia, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Northwest Germania
Excellent. I can't wait to see who it is.
If you and Bacon are in agreement then send a telegram to Pyrosky and plan out the next moves.
Exotic Lemon
I will not appoint a grand duke for at least a couple days. Gives everyone time to send me a telegram.
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Civilisunio, Parakka Northland, Northwest Germania
You had gotten my submission and i assume you already understand my beliefs?
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Exotic Lemon
yes. I have. You send me a telegram every 30 seconds.
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Parakka Northland, Northwest Germania
Lol. I sent you a telegram 4 days ago!XD
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Exotic Lemon
Is a nation allowed to switch political parties?
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Exotic Lemon, Northwest Germania
yes.
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Northwest Germania
It doesn't happen often but it is possible
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Northwest Germania
Made some really weird story ideas...
Cool! Tap into the creativity while it's flowing.
Republic Of Greater Cuba
Here are some weird ideas
God takes "Thou shalt not kill" very seriously and banishes any and all soldiers down to Hell, regardless of intention, reason or sins. The soldiers fed up with this and with nothing to lose, decide to storm Hell and take over
A Steve Irwin-style TV show about beasts in the Star Wars universe.
Elon Musk is convinced that we live in a simulation, so he constructs the largest cluster bomb in history and sets it off in space. For the first time, MilkyWay.exe lags.
Wow, that's a lot to think about. I like the first one the best. Maybe the soldiers can become angels of darkness or some such thing.
Republic Of Greater Cuba
I had an image of SS soldiers and Israeli troops together...weird
Also found out something really interesting from Nasa, and it's that most Earth-like Worlds have yet to be born
Really? I didn't know that.
Republic Of Greater Cuba
http://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/most-earth-like-worlds-have-yet-to-be-born-according-to-theoretical-study
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