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Joincoo wrote:Yo. So, quick question... Mind if I do some advertising here?

We are not tagged recruiter friendly, so please don't.

New Bacon, Malcholm, Joincoo

Terran Flux wrote:We are not tagged recruiter friendly, so please don't.

Alright, since you don't allow. If anyone's just curious, I'll be working on something similar on my Factbook.

Alright, factbook entry's been made, if anyone's interested. If not, crying shame... Oh well.

New Bacon

Oakplumington wrote:There was a girl I liked this one time. And I casually brought up the subject of coffee shops. Once I figured out what she liked, I wrote it down. She said she liked white mochas. A few days later I bought her a cup. It was a nice moment.

That's actually pretty sweet. Coffee might be the way to my heart 💖☕

I see you served your's with a side of banjection, though. Were there later actions taken by Civ that warranted you banning him from the region?

Oakplumington, Parakka Northland

Joincoo wrote:Alright, factbook entry's been made, if anyone's interested. If not, crying shame... Oh well.

You should join us instead. We could use the help.

Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Malcholm wrote:That's actually pretty sweet. Coffee might be the way to my heart 💖☕

I see you served your's with a side of banjection, though. Were there later actions taken by Civ that warranted you banning him from the region?

Yep. He started throwing darts and I'm not going to put up with it. Suppression on the first offense. Banishment on the second. To be fair it wasn't the rudest comment in the world but still unappreciated. If Parakka, Lemon, and you think he's worthy of another chance, you can take Civ off the ban list. Be my guest.

Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Treating the coffee shop like a bar will get you tossed out faster than your darts fly.

I finally got around to sitting around. This covfefe coffee is sooooo good 👌🏽

New Bacon, Oakplumington

I have an announcement. Not sure if you guys remember Followers Of The Ferret which TMC, ORCA, and TUDB defended awhile back. That region has been successfully transferred to Mugwop. I know that Mugwop and I are in a pretty heavy fight right now but I don't want the rest of you to feel weird about participating or joining in on the fun in that region. I'm really happy to see it coming to life again. It was under the protection of TMC for a really long time. It would be good to develop positive relations with that region as it is in good hands. I see our Minister of Foreign Affairs is already on the scene. Awesome.

Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Since Lemon hasn't gotten on yet I'm going to reappoint Terran and Elysium.

Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Oakplumington wrote:I have an announcement. Not sure if you guys remember Followers Of The Ferret which TMC, ORCA, and TUDB defended awhile back. That region has been successfully transferred to Mugwop. I know that Mugwop and I are in a pretty heavy fight right now but I don't want the rest of you to feel weird about participating or joining in on the fun in that region. I'm really happy to see it coming to life again. It was under the protection of TMC for a really long time. It would be good to develop positive relations with that region as it is in good hands. I see our Minister of Foreign Affairs is already on the scene. Awesome.

You kicked him out, there is simply no excuse for your actions.

Alistia

New Bacon wrote:You kicked him out, there is simply no excuse for your actions.

We got it. We're fixing it.

Alistia, New Bacon, Parakka Northland

Post by Oakplumington suppressed by Malcholm.

Oakplumington

I'm going to log off before I kick bacon out, too.

Gyuamno

Malcholm wrote:We got it. We're fixing it.

IT BETTER BE FIXED!!! IM NOT PLAYING ABOUT THIS FOOLISHNESS BETWEEN OAK!

Alistia, Malcholm, Joincoo

Oakplumington shhh, sleep.

Parakka Northland

A NOTE TO EVERYONE!!!

I don't give a crap if you all that are elected with border control kick me out. I'm also elected with no RO powers. I will not tolerate this kicking foolishness or post suppression without due process. I don't budge with A GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL or the FOUNDER ESPECIALLY. If you are wrong you are wrong!!! I am going to say what I have to say without government officials and the founder telling me what I should and should not say!!! THIS SITUATION BETTER BE RECTIFIED IMMEDIATELY OR I WILL LEAVE!!! IM GETTING IMPATIENT WITH THIS INSANITY!!! THIS IS AN OFFICIAL WARNING COMING FROM ME!!!

And I don't care if you all suppress this particular post....

Alistia, Joincoo

Currently fixing all the sh1t working to debug the government. Please bear with me.

Parakka Northland

Oakplumington wrote:Since Lemon hasn't gotten on yet I'm going to reappoint Terran and Elysium.

What about me?

I am a democratically elected official.

New Bacon wrote:A NOTE TO EVERYONE!!!

I don't give a crap if you all that are elected with border control kick me out. I'm also elected with no RO powers. I will not tolerate this kicking foolishness or post suppression without due process. I don't budge with A GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL or the FOUNDER ESPECIALLY. If you are wrong you are wrong!!! I am going to say what I have to say without government officials and the founder telling me what I should and should not say!!! THIS SITUATION BETTER BE RECTIFIED IMMEDIATELY OR I WILL LEAVE!!! IM GETTING IMPATIENT WITH THIS INSANITY!!! THIS IS AN OFFICIAL WARNING COMING FROM ME!!!

And I don't care if you all suppress this particular post....

Amen

Malcholm, Joincoo

Alistia wrote:What about me?

I am a democratically elected official.

Oakplumington, Exotic Lemon fix this.

New Bacon wrote:A NOTE TO EVERYONE!!!

I don't give a crap if you all that are elected with border control kick me out. I'm also elected with no RO powers. I will not tolerate this kicking foolishness or post suppression without due process. I don't budge with A GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL or the FOUNDER ESPECIALLY. If you are wrong you are wrong!!! I am going to say what I have to say without government officials and the founder telling me what I should and should not say!!! THIS SITUATION BETTER BE RECTIFIED IMMEDIATELY OR I WILL LEAVE!!! IM GETTING IMPATIENT WITH THIS INSANITY!!! THIS IS AN OFFICIAL WARNING COMING FROM ME!!!

And I don't care if you all suppress this particular post....

Let’s keep cool heads yeah. Constant threats from any side isn’t going to fix things but only make it worse

Malcholm

Yeesh, that some chaos...

Malcholm

Fix #1: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=901664

Flash poll goes up in TGHI in t-minus 10 minutes. Discuss.

@everyone

https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=103311

Go vote. Poll closes in 2 days. People want fast fixes, so I'm fixing things fast.

Oakplumington, you made an edit to The Basic Rights of Nations 23 days ago without documenting any changes. Please divulge. Currently updating it to reflect present day terms used by the region, "Lunar Council" is dated.

New Bacon

Do we have an official embassy policy?

Updated to BRoN to reflect the current gov't: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=901683

Needs to go to vote somewhere, I'll have to find another region to host.

EDIT: It's being hosted in IHOHP: https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=103315

Alistia

The Immortal Elysium wrote:Do we have an official embassy policy?

None other than the Embassy Protection Act--nothing in terms of standards for Embassies. Was going to propose something once we sorted out our relations to all of our embassies, feel free to beat me to it.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=alistia/detail=factbook/id=899974

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=899982

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=899799

BREAKING NEWS!!!

CURFEW/STATE OF EMERGENCY STILL IN EFFECT FOR ALL OF NEW BACON!!!

The New Baconian Curfew is from 12AM to 12PM (12 hrs maximum per New Bacon Law). New Bacon Citizens please don't get apprehended by the Police!!!

Also Executive Climaco issues this statement regarding the situation in The Mystical Council

President Climaco Says,

"This is a sad time to do this everyone, but there is a curfew in effect. No one needs to be out during this curfew because of the elevated risk for New Bacon and other nations being kicked from the region. The Official Region for New Bacon is the Mystical Council per New Bacon law. If this nation is in any circumstance is removed it will be a violation of the Official Region Act. The nation is at an elevated risk for the continuing threats from the regional founder which is the purpose of the curfew. If the curfew needs to be updated, it will be updated. The Bacon Emergency Management Agency and other emergency officials are monitoring the actions of the region and this country closely."

Malcholm

Malcholm wrote:None other than the Embassy Protection Act--nothing in terms of standards for Embassies. Was going to propose something once we sorted out our relations to all of our embassies, feel free to beat me to it.

[spoiler]https://www.nationstates.net/nation=alistia/detail=factbook/id=899974

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=899982

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=899799[/spoiler]

I try to stat working on something in a bit, then.

Malcholm

MORE NEWS POSTED!!!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=901693

Malcholm wrote:Updated to BRoN to reflect the current gov't: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=901683

Needs to go to vote somewhere, I'll have to find another region to host.

EDIT: It's being hosted in IHOHP: https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=103315

What constitutes as a disqualifying crime?

The Immortal Elysium wrote:What constitutes as a disqualifying crime?

A crime worthy of the receiving "you can no longer register as a citizen and/or run for public office" as part of a nation's sentencing post-trial. Need to draft a proper list of crimes that can punished with such rather than continuing to go by word of mouth.

Malcholm wrote:A crime worthy of the receiving "you can no longer register as a citizen and/or run for public office" as part of a nation's sentencing post-trial. Need to draft a proper list of crimes than can punished with such rather than continuing to go by word of mouth.

Alright then.

New Bacon, are you interested in levying formal charges against Forestavia/Oakplumington as a result of his rampant post suppression and unjustified banishment of both Civilisunio and Mugwop? Neither of them have appealed to the Judicial Council, so there's not much I can do yet aside from proposing edits and passing new laws to prevent this sort of caboose in the future.

Alistia, New Bacon

Post self-deleted by New Bacon.

New Bacon wrote:Yes, drop the charges!!! This is out of control. I'll nullify the docket that was issued September 1st.

No need, this is a separate incident with different charges. The former docket still stands.

Malcholm wrote:No need, this is a separate incident with different charges. The former docket still stands.

Oh I thought you were talking about the other docket with the 59 days, ok yes drop those charges.

New Bacon wrote:Oh I thought you were talking about the other docket with the 59 days, ok yes drop those charges.

The 59 day docket still stands

Malcholm

New Bacon wrote:The 59 day docket still stands

Right, anything new would instead be appended to and overwrite the old stuff.

New Bacon

New Bacon wrote:The 59 day docket still stands

Malcholm wrote:Right, anything new would instead be appended to and overwrite the old stuff.

You do realise you said in the docket that he had to sign in at minimum once every 59 days right? In his defence he did comply with that order of the court or should I say found a loop hole with your sentencing.

Parakka Northland wrote:You do realise you said in the docket that he had to sign in at minimum once every 59 days right? In his defence he did comply with that order of the court or should I say found a loop hole with your sentencing.

Yes. Someone would need to appeal to have it revised, or get in on Bacon's levy for formal charges against Oak. I can't do that myself because I would see it as overstepping my bounds.

New Bacon, Parakka Northland

Parakka Northland wrote:You do realise you said in the docket that he had to sign in at minimum once every 59 days right? In his defence he did comply with that order of the court or should I say found a loop hole with your sentencing.

Oak has found a loophole. He turned off his vacation mode. Which would allow his nation to cte after 28 days.

Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Malcholm wrote:New Bacon, are you interested in levying formal charges against Forestavia/Oakplumington as a result of his rampant post suppression and unjustified banishment of both Civilisunio and Mugwop? Neither of them have appealed to the Judicial Council, so there's not much I can do yet aside from proposing edits and passing new laws to prevent this sort of caboose in the future.

Id like to file charges against him for violating the rights of nations, dismissing the government, raiding the region, and everything/anything else that counts as a legal crime

New Bacon, Malcholm

Malcholm wrote:Yes. Someone would need to appeal to have it revised, or get in on Bacon's levy for formal charges against Oak. I can't do that myself because I would see it as overstepping my bounds.

New Bacon wrote:Oak has found a loophole. He turned off his vacation mode. Which would allow his nation to cte after 28 days.

I’m aware he found a loophole, but unfortunately you can’t punish him for breaking the courts verdict as he would argue that the court was short sighted in their ruling.

I’m not trying to start anything here just pointing out an obvious flaw and would rather try and get things back to normal in some fashion rather than see more fuel added to the flames.

Post self-deleted by New Bacon.

Parakka Northland wrote:I’m aware he found a loophole, but unfortunately you can’t punish him for breaking the courts verdict as he would argue that the court was short sighted in their ruling.

I’m not trying to start anything here just pointing out an obvious flaw and would rather try and get things back to normal in some fashion rather than see more fuel added to the flames.

We know about the flaw. Yes forest can circumvent the court when he wants even though people disapprove of it. There is nothing much more myself Malcholm and Barishmacht can do.

Alistia

Alistia wrote:Id like to file charges against him for violating the rights of nations, dismissing the government, raiding the region, and everything/anything else that counts as a legal crime

Another strain on my life...ugh...

We got you.

Alistia

Parakka Northland wrote:rather than see more fuel added to the flames.

Why not both? Most of the region isn't going to look past the fact that Oak violated the very laws he helped author and instate for us.

Worth noting: Oak/Gyu alleges that the court violated the BRoN in it's verdict on TMC v. Forestavia, citing "10. Nations shall retain the right to run their own governments as they see fit without hindrance from the regional government."

Full text: "10. Nations shall retain the right to run their own governments as they see fit without hindrance from the regional government. Everything from anarchies to psychotic dictatorships and everything in between will be safe within the region."

This implies that the government will not impose on how a nation chooses to answer issues and will not enforce any certain ideology or nation classification. It's not interpreted as a protection from the regional government dictating how a player (OOC) should use a nation (IC);more specifically, it does not block the court from conscripting Oak to compulsory activity every 59/ however many days so that the founding nation, hopefully, will not CTE.

I don't believe that levying more formal charges against Oak is adding more kerosene to the flame, it's just a part of the process of restoring the region to it's former sanity. More laws, stricter penalties, and clear-cut policies on the founder's conduct and role in a democratically elected government.

Alistia, New Bacon, Parakka Northland

*A strange fellow reeking of marijuana strolls in*

yooo maannnnn how about we get rid of all government to begin with? let's just be free souls man far outtttt.

*lights a joint*

Terran Flux, Exotic Lemon

Gyuamno wrote:*A strange fellow reeking of marijuana strolls in*

yooo maannnnn how about we get rid of all government to begin with? let's just be free souls man far outtttt.

*lights a joint*

*hoarse cough*

that shizz was el cronico homies

Terran Flux

Malcholm wrote:Why not both? Most of the region isn't going to look past the fact that Oak violated the very laws he helped author and instate for us.

Worth noting: Oak/Gyu alleges that the court violated the BRoN in it's verdict on TMC v. Forestavia, citing "10. Nations shall retain the right to run their own governments as they see fit without hindrance from the regional government."

Full text: "10. Nations shall retain the right to run their own governments as they see fit without hindrance from the regional government. Everything from anarchies to psychotic dictatorships and everything in between will be safe within the region."

This implies that the government will not impose on how a nation chooses to answer issues and will not enforce any certain ideology or nation classification. It's not interpreted as a protection from the regional government dictating how a player (OOC) should use a nation (IC);more specifically, it does not block the court from conscripting Oak to compulsory activity every 59/ however many days so that the founding nation, hopefully, will not CTE.

I don't believe that levying more formal charges against Oak is adding more kerosene to the flame, it's just a part of the process of restoring the region to it's former sanity. More laws, stricter penalties, and clear-cut policies on the founder's conduct and role in a democratically elected government.

Dude I don't disagree with what your saying generally speaking. However, having anouther trial at this moment in time isn't going to calm things down it's just going to keep tensions high. I'm not day thing that a trial shouldn't take place, but it should be scheduled for a later date. Instead of it being continuously brought up on the RMB.

Hopefully that makes sense

Malcholm

Mugwop wrote:No you don't. You really don't. The only occasion that the court has permitted you to use your powers, is if and only if the delegate postion is usurped by someone.

You don't have any legitimate powers anymore, as you have lost the postion of Emperor. The position of emperor has went to the native delegate, ever since your trial concluded.

And now you're trying to make it look that this is all a conspiracy to prevent a poll about the Fire Chief position (even though I was the first to raise it and promised to deal with it later). But the fact is that you are using the poll thing to divert attention from the mess you're trying to make.

Sounds familiar?

Trump: Forestavia

NFL Players: Alistia

Malcholm, Exotic Lemon One of you has got to deal with him. He's out of his bounds.

I am legit getting spammed with telegrams, notices, mentions, and whatnot.

Regional Announcement

As the unofficial emperour, it is my duty to defend the region and its people. I have thought about it, and the needs of the people must come first over the regions. I am sorry forest, but you overstepped your bounds. I was fine with, even happy, that you brought oak back and started declaring an emergency. But I think you took it too far:

-You suppressed multiple posts

-You dismissed democratically elected officials for "conspiracy", when they were just stating their opinion.

-You handed malchom, parakka and myself basically unlimited power, but we didn't ask for it and I certaintly don't want it.

-Your emergency powers are to be honest not very legal, and I wasn't ever consulted about your

To the people:

I am issuing a lemon state of emergency to revise the state:

- Democratically elected officials are to be returned to office

- Posts are to be unsurpressed and bans lifted if needed

- Forest is removed from emergency powers temporarily

- Complaints, concerns, and comments will be taken up by myself and the other democratic government. I will not, however, make any action against forest other than removing his temporary power.

Alistia, New Bacon, Malcholm, Parakka Northland, Joincoo

Parakka Northland wrote:Dude I don't disagree with what your saying generally speaking. However, having anouther trial at this moment in time isn't going to calm things down it's just going to keep tensions high. I'm not saying that a trial shouldn't take place, but it should be scheduled for a later date. Instead of it being continuously brought up on the RMB.

Hopefully that makes sense

Well, sure, it doesn't have to happen right this instant. I had thought you meant that it shouldn't happen at all.

Take a look at #government on Discord for my list of things that I'm gonna try to do over the next couple days--the trial itself isn't even a priority right now.

Alistia, Parakka Northland

I can see that I have no place here anymore. The region has made the personal attack of myself its number one priority. The creator has been baffled by its creation. Good luck guys.

Gyuamno, Alistia

I'm should prob. do some foreign affairs thingys.

So I'm going to pretend I know what I'm doing.

Alistia, Malcholm

Oh, how about a small short story contest, Halloween themed? Inter-regional?

I'm trying to think of how to strengthen our ties between our region, and our embassies.

So, by pretending I know what I'm doing, I thought of this.

Is it a good?

(Posting this here, too, because not everyone goes on discord)

Alistia, Malcholm, Exotic Lemon, Joincoo

Malcholm wrote:Oakplumington, you made an edit to The Basic Rights of Nations 23 days ago without documenting any changes. Please divulge. Currently updating it to reflect present day terms used by the region, "Lunar Council" is dated.

Oakplumington wrote:I can see that I have no place here anymore. The region has made the personal attack of myself its number one priority. The creator has been baffled by its creation. Good luck guys.

The creation is running a chkdsk and repairing corrupted files. I do hope you don't consider my egging Bacon to press charges as a personal slant; I assure, you, it's anything but that, and it's certainly not my first priority. See: (copied from discord)

Malch's TODO List:

Create Judicial Code: https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=27661631

Create Embassy Policy: https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=27661367

Update Judiciary Database: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=716146/

Nullify the Regional Laws and Treaties Dispatch: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=oakplumington/detail=factbook/id=454436

Re-draft/update New Bacon's Constitution Proposal and propose it: https://docs.google.com/document/d/15om9RW4XrU3SW3bhBLEMjk_k07gSmYsPKuxlB8bjDVQ/edit

Formally Veto Founder's State of Emergency: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=900320

I'm pushing the region to take a more strict and stringent stance on upholding and updating it's laws. Take a breath and come back when you're ready.

Alistia, New Bacon

Well, I'm heading off for the night.

Feel free to let me know your thoughts for a story contest thingy, interegional thingy, a couple posts ago.

Alistia, Malcholm, Joincoo

Oakplumington wrote:I can see that I have no place here anymore. The region has made the personal attack of myself its number one priority. The creator has been baffled by its creation. Good luck guys.

You will always have a place here. If you need to chat you know where I am

New Bacon, Malcholm, Exotic Lemon

Oakplumington wrote:I can see that I have no place here anymore. The region has made the personal attack of myself its number one priority. The creator has been baffled by its creation. Good luck guys.

Courtesy Mention: Forestavia

I'm not trying to press more charges against you. Me and mal were talking about dropping the earlier dockets of you involved. I really don't want another trial to be honest. You will always have a place in this region, you are the founder. We just need the chaos to tone it down some; please come back. I really want this region to be in unison not apart, and like Parakka Northland said, the threats are getting us NOWHERE! If we could all just work together and not repeat this cycle over and over again I would appreciate it.

Alistia, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon

New Bacon wrote:Courtesy Mention: Forestavia

I'm not trying to press more charges against you. Me and mal were talking about dropping the earlier dockets of you involved. I really don't want another trial to be honest. You will always have a place in this region, you are the founder. We just need the chaos to tone it down some; please come back. I really want this region to be in unison not apart, and like Parakka Northland said, the threats are getting us NOWHERE! If we could all just work together and not repeat this cycle over and over again I would appreciate it.

Well said!

New Bacon, Exotic Lemon

The Immortal Elysium wrote:Oh, how about a small short story contest, Halloween themed? Inter-regional?

I'm trying to think of how to strengthen our ties between our region, and our embassies.

So, by pretending I know what I'm doing, I thought of this.

Is it a good?

(Posting this here, too, because not everyone goes on discord)

This thing. I also need to know if anybody wants to be judge.

Also, maybe a halloweeny flag contest, too?

Alistia, Joincoo

I have officially transferred the back up region into your hands. The password is visible. All powers have been granted. When the founder ceases to exist in the back up region the delegate position will become executive by default. I will be getting on in a few hours to make my final address to the region as founder.

Southern Forestavia wrote:I have officially transferred the back up region into your hands. The password is visible. All powers have been granted. When the founder ceases to exist in the back up region the delegate position will become executive by default. I will be getting on in a few hours to make my final address to the region as founder.

Forest I don't know what's going on but if you want to chat you know where I am.

Alistia, New Bacon, Joincoo

Southern Forestavia wrote:I have officially transferred the back up region into your hands. The password is visible. All powers have been granted. When the founder ceases to exist in the back up region the delegate position will become executive by default. I will be getting on in a few hours to make my final address to the region as founder.

😢

Alistia, New Bacon, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon

Southern Forestavia wrote:I have officially transferred the back up region into your hands. The password is visible. All powers have been granted. When the founder ceases to exist in the back up region the delegate position will become executive by default. I will be getting on in a few hours to make my final address to the region as founder.

😮 Are you okay?

Forestavia/Oakplumington

Alistia, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon

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I did not realize it at first but Mugwop was right about something. There is a connection between the Lunar Council’s verdict and the state of emergency that I recently declared. Instead of doubling down on my decision to enforce a state of emergency, I should have doubled down on my decision to allow the founder puppet to cease to exist.

I have spent the better part of this year attempting to convince the region that a founder is no longer needed. With the court’s verdict, the government reforms that are so badly needed, and the chaos, I thought maybe the court was right. Maybe I let the region convince me I was still needed. Maybe out of a sense of selfishness, I wanted to convince myself that I was still needed. I misplayed my hand so badly this week. I hope that the region can find it in their hearts to accept my sincere apologies. I will not stand in your way again.

I knew that this day would eventually come. I endeavored to create a truly free, genuinely democratic, and fiercely independent region. The region is stronger, more vibrant, and more successful than I could ever have imagined it would become. We have a bulwark of influential power here that many regions will never have a chance to see. We have active world assembly nations here, again, something that many regions never develop. I am truly honored to have been part of this region. You all helped to make it a wonderful experience. But now, the time has come for us to part ways. My life has become busier over the past year and leaving the region will allow me to focus on other things. I’m sure most of you have noticed the lengthy spans of time when I’m not active.

I will not be logging onto the founder account for a long time. The day will come when the founder will cease to exist again. And when it does, I will not bring it back. This region is powerful enough, old enough, and stubborn enough to operate without the constant presence of a founder. I will only log back onto the founder account for two reasons:

- If the region would succumb to an occupation by a hostile force which lasts more than five days.

Or

- If the region would suffer from a severe collapse in population.

If this new policy worries you, if you think that this is too dangerous or too risky, then I would point no further than to the long trail of activity pages behind us. Look at what you just did as a region. You fought me off. After three days of what - I hear in some circles - could be considered a raid, an attack on the region. Congratulations! If I was a raider, I wouldn’t come anywhere near this place. It is too strong and too powerful. This region is ready to take on an attack from any direction at any time. So long as it is in your hands, this region and the values that we believe in will be safe from harm.

As the mother bird sometimes must force her young from the nest so that they may learn to fly, so I must do to The Mystical Council. I do not do this to spite the Lunar Council’s ruling or the desires of the regional government. I do this because I know that this region is ready to take it to the next level and the next level is something that no founder can do for you. It is something that you must do for yourselves. It must be this way so that you can fulfill your destiny as a truly free region.

Now go forth! Spread those wings and continue your noble work here in The Mystical Council, in this wonderful game, and make a difference in this unique world that we live in called NationStates!

*Waves goodbye*

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Gyuamno, Alistia, Malcholm, Terran Flux, Exotic Lemon, Joincoo

Forestavia wrote:~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

I did not realize it at first but Mugwop was right about something. There is a connection between the Lunar Council’s verdict and the state of emergency that I recently declared. Instead of doubling down on my decision to enforce a state of emergency, I should have doubled down on my decision to allow the founder puppet to cease to exist.

I have spent the better part of this year attempting to convince the region that a founder is no longer needed. With the court’s verdict, the government reforms that are so badly needed, and the chaos, I thought maybe the court was right. Maybe I let the region convince me I was still needed. Maybe out of a sense of selfishness, I wanted to convince myself that I was still needed. I misplayed my hand so badly this week. I hope that the region can find it in their hearts to accept my sincere apologies. I will not stand in your way again.

I knew that this day would eventually come. I endeavored to create a truly free, genuinely democratic, and fiercely independent region. The region is stronger, more vibrant, and more successful than I could ever have imagined it would become. We have a bulwark of influential power here that many regions will never have a chance to see. We have active world assembly nations here, again, something that many regions never develop. I am truly honored to have been part of this region. You all helped to make it a wonderful experience. But now, the time has come for us to part ways. My life has become busier over the past year and leaving the region will allow me to focus on other things. I’m sure most of you have noticed the lengthy spans of time when I’m not active.

I will not be logging onto the founder account for a long time. The day will come when the founder will cease to exist again. And when it does, I will not bring it back. This region is powerful enough, old enough, and stubborn enough to operate without the constant presence of a founder. I will only log back onto the founder account for two reasons:

- If the region would succumb to an occupation by a hostile force which lasts more than five days.

Or

- If the region would suffer from a severe collapse in population.

If this new policy worries you, if you think that this is too dangerous or too risky, then I would point no further than to the long trail of activity pages behind us. Look at what you just did as a region. You fought me off. After three days of what - I hear in some circles - could be considered a raid, an attack on the region. Congratulations! If I was a raider, I wouldn’t come anywhere near this place. It is too strong and too powerful. This region is ready to take on an attack from any direction at any time. So long as it is in your hands, this region and the values that we believe in will be safe from harm.

As the mother bird sometimes must force her young from the nest so that they may learn to fly, so I must do to The Mystical Council. I do not do this to spite the Lunar Council’s ruling or the desires of the regional government. I do this because I know that this region is ready to take it to the next level and the next level is something that no founder can do for you. It is something that you must do for yourselves. It must be this way so that you can fulfill your destiny as a truly free region.

Now go forth! Spread those wings and continue your noble work here in The Mystical Council, in this wonderful game, and make a difference in this unique world that we live in called NationStates!

*Waves goodbye*

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I’ve sent you a message from Parakka, but I am truly sorry it’s come to this for what it’s worth.

Alistia, New Bacon, Exotic Lemon

Malcholm I think it's best to go ahead and nullify the docket that I composed also that was issued September 1st. With Forestavia's speech, it's not really worth issuing the docket anymore. The docket is no good and very hard to enforce. THIS IS MY OFFICIAL OFFER FOR NOW. Given that there is nothing much more that the court can do. At Forestavia's ultimate discretion, the founder puppet will be either inactive or active. The docket is not really enforceable. I'm just telling the truth Malcholm. Maybe the court should have had some deeper thought before actually initiating the sentence on Forestavia. We as a judicial team should have thought deeply about this sentence. This sentence was also a part of the chaos as well.

Forestavia, Alistia, Terran Flux, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon

Forestavia,

It saddens me to see you go, but tmc will never forget you. You mean far more than just owning the founder nation You are the heart and soul of tmc, and you will always have a place among us should you decide to return.

Forestavia, Alistia, New Bacon, Malcholm, Terran Flux, Viva Italia

Parakka Northland wrote:I’ve sent you a message from Parakka, but I am truly sorry it’s come to this for what it’s worth.

I am sorry too. But tmc will survive without a founder.

ARRGH! Lost me ship in th' waves o' time.

Malcholm

Exotic Lemon wrote:I am sorry too. But tmc will survive without a founder.

That's what the raiders want us to think! We need a founder, STAT!

Alistia

Went ahead 'in walked th' plank all by 'imself. Too much rum I be guessin'.

Forestavia, Alistia, New Bacon, Malcholm, Civilisunio

Zaraheemia wrote:ARRGH! Lost me ship in th' waves o' time.

yeah good thing you came back as soon as the founder left.

funny how things work out like that

Malcholm, Terran Flux, Parakka Northland

With Forestavia gone, I will most likely not be very active here anymore.

So long folks!

Terran Flux, Parakka Northland

Not so fast! My new region has embassies with you guys. You're not rid of me yet! ;)

Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Gyuamno wrote:yeah good thing you came back as soon as the founder left.

funny how things work out like that

Yeah timing is everything isn't it.

Malcholm

Zaraheemia wrote:Went ahead 'in walked th' plank all by 'imself. Too much rum I be guessin'.

Yer best guessin' shant be takein' ye anwheres. Ahoy! Welcome back, me hearty!

Malcholm wrote:Yer best guessin' shant be takein' ye anwheres. Ahoy! Welcome back, me hearty!

Malcholm did you get the memo?

The Immortal Elysium wrote:I'm not good with words, but I am planning on doing a thing like this.

Boosted for lols. I can't wait to read the spooky tales we get from this :>

New Bacon wrote:Malcholm did you get the memo?

was just getting around to it :P

New Bacon

Poll Up

After the last government poll I have posted the follow up poll.

Malcholm

Malcholm wrote:Boosted for lols. I can't wait to read the spooky tales we get from this :>

Yep. Now to spread this thingy around.

New Bacon, Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Yep. We only have alot of embassies.

New Bacon, Malcholm

Option 2 will bring us full circle. Make it five "council" positions instead of three and we'll have re-instated the old Lunar Council.

Both options look exactly the same on paper though. What makes option 1 different from 2?

Also, what sort of positions are we designating in these new government structures? How are we handling the division of powers and responsibilities? Will these new positions be elected, or appointed? How do we decide proportional representation? etc..

New Bacon, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon

Malcholm wrote:Option 2 will bring us full circle. Make it five "council" positions instead of three and we'll have re-instated the old Lunar Council.

Both options look exactly the same on paper though. What makes option 1 different from 2?

Also, what sort of positions are we designating in these new government structures? How are we handling the division of powers and responsibilities? Will these new positions be elected, or appointed? How do we decide proportional representation? etc..

Option 1 specific duties with specific powers

Option 2 council (abit like the old system)

In both options and per the last poll the judicial branch (lunar council) will still be in place.

I suppose in option 2 case we could have 4 elected seats rather than 3 to make it an odd number. Not worth doing that for option 1

Malcholm, Exotic Lemon

So....many...dead....embassies

New Bacon, Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Do I get a cookie fo actually doing something this term?

New Bacon, Malcholm, Terran Flux, Parakka Northland

What if, I don't like either option....

Malcholm

I'm getting alot of likes from my posts. Oh well.

Let's see how many notifications I have when I get home from work.

New Bacon, Malcholm

The Immortal Elysium wrote:So....many...dead....embassies

this is why i was doing the embassy relations thing :P

The Immortal Elysium wrote:Do I get a cookie fo actually doing something this term?

🍪🍪

Terran Flux wrote:What if, I don't like either option....

ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ

New Bacon, Terran Flux

Parakka Northland wrote:Option 1 specific duties with specific powers

Option 2 council (abit like the old system)

In both options and per the last poll the judicial branch (lunar council) will still be in place.

I suppose in option 2 case we could have 4 elected seats rather than 3 to make it an odd number. Not worth doing that for option 1

Got it, so it's still 1 Exec, 3 Ministry, 3 Judiciary no matter which option.

Feels a bit like what I set up in TGHI after we put in the monarchy here. My region has 1 Exec, 3 Solar Council (Leg.), 3 Lunar Council (Jud.), but all with full powers. Probably a lot closer to what option 2 would look like.

Terran Flux, Parakka Northland

The Immortal Elysium wrote:So....many...dead....embassies

Feel free to close any embassies you'd classify as "dead"--i.e., no one has posted in 3+ weeks & the region doesn't belong to one of us.

Terran Flux

Terran Flux wrote:What if, I don't like either option....

I suppose you don't vote or vote for which option you prefer out of two bad ones?

Malcholm wrote:Got it, so it's still 1 Exec, 3 Ministry, 3 Judiciary no matter which option.

Feels a bit like what I set up in TGHI after we put in the monarchy here. My region has 1 Exec, 3 Solar Council (Leg.), 3 Lunar Council (Jud.), but all with full powers. Probably a lot closer to what option 2 would look like.

Yep pretty much that's how option 2 would look if that's what's chosen

*turns off like notices*

I'll go through the embassies when I get back from work

Malcholm, Terran Flux

We're not still in the State of Emergency, are we?

Malcholm, Terran Flux

The Immortal Elysium wrote:We're not still in the State of Emergency, are we?

Technically no.

No one repealed it yet, no requirement to repeal it though. I'm pretty sure Lemon, Parakka, and myself yelling at Oak to restore the gov't counts as a veto, tho, so it's technically been rescinded.

EDIT: Fixed WFE to reflect this.

Terran Flux

Thought: we're the Mystical Council, but don't have a Council of Mystics 🤔

Volunteers?

Terran Flux, Parakka Northland

I thought we where gonna have more time to discuss/propose ideas for the revised government.

I don't like either option, and I agree with Malcholm in that a revised version of the LC should replace the current system.

(Poll seems rushed)

Terran Flux

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