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Region: The Mystical Council
I approve it.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Tumetu-Iin Noyan
[nation=short]bunicken[/nation]
http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=630729
Here's the document I've been promising.
New Bacon, Tumetu-Iin Noyan
I will dispatching Selven to collect this article and seal hour secession from the NSCNR
*your, not hour. Sorry, on my mobile.
New Bacon
That idea of when you suppress someone's post and they CTE.
Tumetu-Iin Noyan, Order Of Hospitallers
the idea o revenge ii?
what did they say?
New Bacon, Tumetu-Iin Noyan
Oak / Malcholm you can dismiss me as the NSNCR Rep now.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Tumetu-Iin Noyan
How are yall doin?
New Bacon, Malcholm
Wow! The Idea of Revenge/Lord Valkorion is still around. Craziness! For those who don't know they are a delete on sight player that visits our region once in a while.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Rondaland
They threatened to raid is and talked about not breaking away from the NSNCR alliance
((I'm going to do a Drudge Report mimic))
BREAKING REGIONAL NEWS HEADLINES!
PROPOSAL 1-C
Lunar Council approves closure of embassies with Bunicken!
Delegate Malcholm vetoes action!
The future of Bunicken's embassy hangs in the balance in Sentagon!
Embassy closure wars predicted.....
Bunicken not protected by Embassy Protection Act...
Legal experts whisper Hospitallers within rights.....could go it alone
New Bacon, Malcholm
Peachy! :) And you?
Malcholm
Post self-deleted by New Bacon.
Hopefully Malcholm's veto doesn't get overridden.
Malcholm
We shall see, anything is possible now!
New Bacon, Malcholm
Done.
How are you, Hospitallers?
Malcholm, Rondaland
Pretty good we have finally rid all the slander and salt that was recently dumped on us :p
Malcholm
Whatever happened to me running for president?
Forestavia, New Bacon, Order Of Hospitallers, Plugo
Post self-deleted by Plugo.
THE OLD PRIME MINISTER OF NORDRLOND RETURNS TO GAIN HIS OLD SEAT OF WA DELEGATE BACK!
(http://www.nationstates.net/nation=plugo/detail=factbook/id=607113)
Order Of Hospitallers
I don't know. [nation=short]forestavia[/nation]?
Plugo
I'm also running again too. But Forestavia has to answer your question.
Forestavia, Plugo
You will have my support old friend (;
New Bacon
#MakeTheCouncilGreatAgain
Plugo
It was probably just forgotten about due to this bunicken event
New Bacon, Malcholm
Yeah probably
They all wanted to put the Bunicken thing to vote.
Forestavia should answer your question on when the Sentagon presidential elections are. I can't say for sure when they are though.
Post by Republic Of Greater Cuba suppressed by Malcholm.
Thank you for telling NCO this, they broke our (by our I mean Bunicken's and NCO's) peace treaty. Never trust self-proclaimed revolutionaries
Selven
Post self-deleted by Republic Of Greater Cuba.
What?!
Is THIS what the Mystical Council stands for? Lies and deceit?
Malcholm
Post self-deleted by Republic Of Greater Cuba.
Well...
Ok this isn't my fault that our region wants to close embassies with y'all. Honestly I think you all are good people but majority rules and I can't change that. They wanted to put it to vote. Forestavia said that the lunar council passed it so I can't do anything for y'all honestly.
Forestavia
Post by Republic Of Greater Cuba suppressed by Malcholm.
Violating a pact is almost like declaring war
Selven, New Bacon
Oh well they are in a totally different region. They are in Sentagon of the Mystical Council.
We agreed to stay out of each other's business.
Can't you see that they are voting out of vendetta?
RP:
"We are back on the Anti-Spin Factor with our guest Franko Troublesome. We are discussing the political turmoil happening in The Mystical Council. So, if I understand you correctly, your saying that Hospitallers could use the power of Lunar Council membership to just go it alone and close embassies. But the minute Bacon's 1-C Proposal passes and becomes law (if it passes) then that basically becomes a miniature embassy protection act for Bunicken?"
"That's absolutely correct, Bill. But let's be honest, 1-C is not going to pass. Plugo and Lazarus are both WA members of Sentagon, and so they each get two votes. Forestavia and Selvin have been outmanned in this Sentagon vote. The law will not pass and that opens the door for Hospitallers or any nation with embassy authority for that matter to close the embassy."
"What's to stop say, the Lunar Council President, from cancelling closure of embassies?"
"Absolutely nothing. In fact, nations with embassies authority could go at it ad infinitum cancelling Bunicken's embassy and saving it over and over again."
"There's another thorny issue that is coming up in The Mystical Council today and that is this issue of other nations coming into the region to vote in Sentagon's voting sessions. Is this something that you see being changed in the future?"
"No, every nation residing in the region who is not elected to some office is automatically part of Sentagon. There is no time limit. They can be residents of The Mystical Council for 30 seconds and they are still able to vote."
"But what do you say to those people who say these people are crashing or manipulating the region's political process? This is very controversial in Forestavia, especially among advocates of regional sovereignty."
"I don't see it as that big of an issue. Look Bill, the Lunar Council passed something that the Delegate didn't like now it's up to Sentagon."
[commercial break]
Plugo
@ New Bacon
I would just say, go ahead and do a poll after this Bunicken one is done. Something like:
New Bacon
Rondaland
Write-In
I could set the poll up if you prefer, but it's your call since you're Sentagon's President.
New Bacon, Plugo
Well, I am thoroughly disgusted. I am going off line now. I will come back tomorrow to receive your resignation, if you are ready.
(Not disgusted at this region, yet. Just some other things outside if this region)
That's good. We like to keep things interesting here. :)
Who knows! A month or two could pass and we could have a completely different government composition and reestablish embassies again. With or without embassies, I'll be keeping in touch with you and Bunicken via telegrams and maybe an occasional visit.
Malcholm, Plugo
Sentagon votes update:
Yes: (two nations) 3 votes
No: (five nations) 7 votes
Abstain: (one nation) 2 votes
Status: As of this post, Proposal 1-C is not looking too happy! Defeat looks inevitable.
Voting No means the withdraw right?
We didnt violate, but if you want me and lazarus can both abstain in this poll, not like it will make a difference.
Order Of Hospitallers
I have a feeling The council will get a new delegate in a few hours..
Order Of Hospitallers
Still shows your doing an act of vendetta, and I don't care if it will make a difference, that's not a good excuse
Order Of Hospitallers
Yeah, just like you hope
Order Of Hospitallers
I wouldn't be surprised if he was in favor of it, but he is a past officer of the region, so he has some right to be involved in the politics.
How much is some right?
Order Of Hospitallers
I guess that will be determined by the events soon to come following the result of this.
When should the results hopefully come in?
Around noon on monday.
*spends nearly 20 minutes agonizing over a yes or no question*
*overthinks some more*
Actually, yes, I'm 99.5% sure that it does.
My understanding is that if a simple majority of VOTES CAST out of Sentagon (12 so far) would give us a result one way or another that result would give us a clear answer.
1. The word keep implies that we would "protect" Bunicken's embassy if we get a simple majority (7 right now) voting Yes.
2. But if a simple majority vote no (which is what is happening now), then we would "not keep" embassies which means we would be obligated to demolish them.
3. If no majority is achieved in either case then nothing definite would happen and the nations with embassies authority would be free to do whatever.
@ New Bacon
Please correct me if I made any wrong assumptions about your poll or proposal. If 1-C associated with a dispatch or anything, then let us know.
New Bacon
And Bacon will be replacing malcholm as the delegate later today, so his veto won't matter.
I wonder if bacon will still abstain.
Wow, this is....Oh my.
Malcholm, Order Of Hospitallers
*Correction
In number 1 replace "7 right now" with "7 required for simple majority right now"
Yes, Indeed. O_O
Order Of Hospitallers
Very planned out yes :p
We do not mess around here
Forestavia, Malcholm
I see that......
That reminds me i need to endorse bacon
Grabs beer.
*Observes*
Malcholm, Rondaland
*The Mystical Council ranked in the top ten percent for most corrupt*
Forestavia, Malcholm
Is there a dispatch that gives a comprehensive list of the dutys of the president?
*You didnt giet me a beer? Wow what a rude host you are!*
Order Of Lazarus
lol!
I'm chuckling up a storm right now! ;)
Rondaland, Order Of Lazarus
Now you laugh at us!
This simpily cannot due!
I will make you feel worse then the citizens of my nation!
*endorses bacon*
Rondaland
http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=442427
I, uh... I forgot. There's some in the kitchen.
*points the way absentmindedly while watching TMC history unfold*
Malcholm
*Walks into kitchen and slips on banana!*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p63iM4KdQO4
Malcholm
Post self-deleted by Order Of Lazarus.
*steps over you to grab a..
WTF IS THIS BUD LIGHT!? EWW*
Post by Upplasia suppressed by Malcholm.
I did not make the pact but i am looking in it now and do not see any violation.
The only NCO members here are plugo and lazarus.
Lazarus is a puppet of hospitallers, a government official here, and plugo often comes here and was once in the government.
Pact:
1.No action by any nation associated with the NCO or Bunicken to spam, annoy, anger, or offend any members of the other region.
2.I am not asking you to be friends, just don't go at each others throats. You used to be allies, you used to be friends
3.No military action will be taken against Bunicken or the NCO, as well as any nations associated with them
4. Be civil to each other on the rmb if the embassies are to be kept open, if embassies are closed, then each region must move their separate ways, their paths never to cross.
5. Both regions will apologize for the rmb attacks
6. No recruiting or spying on each other
7. Founder/officers will suppress all remnents of this war and never mention it again
8. Cuba's controversial "treason" is to be never mentioned again
9. All official contact on nationstates between the two regions shall be cut.
10. Trebisond & Irelond apologize to all for acting without government approval and helping to cause this ruckus
11. Gagala apologizes for attacking the region
12. All nations mentioned in negotiations will be removed from the new celtic order ban list
13. Both regions will uphold all things citied in the text above.
After Attacks, Flaming and other Childish and Immature actions, a white peace has been called between Bunicken & New Celtic Order.
IN EFFECT
IN FACT you all violated the pact, we even asked bunicken to make sure you withdrew all spys / puppets from our region, you all said you did.
But Free Iraq is a puppet of yours..
And when you blamed us for Borduiaa's trial of cuba we did not have a fit, we didnt get mad and rmb spam / call you out for it.
And in clause 8 it says cubas treason will not be mentioned, but you mentioned and involved us in the "trial".
New Bacon
Oh...snap!
BUSTED!
Will Hospitallers become the first Lunar Councillor to vote as a Lunar Councillor and as a member of Sentagon?????
New Bacon, Malcholm, Plugo
Let's see.....
Lazarus = 2
12 - 2 = 10
7 - 2 = 5
5/10 is not a simple majority. This means that Bunicken's embassy could be safe!
This is unbelievable! I'm on the edge of my seat!
Plugo
Timeline (Bunicken's Embassy)
1. New Bacon initiates proposal 1-C via poll.
2. The Lunar Council passes 1-C by voting against keeping embassies.
3. Delegate Malcholm vetoes the Lunar Council's action.
4. Sentagon becomes largely supportive of the measure.
5. New Bacon, President of Sentagon and original author of poll abstains from voting.
6. An allegation is circulated that Hospitallers has puppet voted potentially knocking a 7/12 simple majority vote in Sentagon to a 5/10 vote in Sentagon.
7. New Bacon takes the Delegacy.
8. Malcholm becomes a member of Sentagon resulting in this: Keep the embassy > 5 and Don't keep the embassy >> 5 (maybe 7 if Hospitallers can prove he is not Lazarus). Malcholm's veto nullified.
9. As of taking the Delegate position, New Bacon had neither approved nor vetoed proposal 1-C.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Plugo
Post self-deleted by Kill All Nazis.
Didnt realize it was a secret lol, lazarus is my WA account.
Add the wa bonus vote to my vote if you want :^)
But the poll has changed i think, 5 members of sentagon voting to withdraw, not including lazarus one of them is wa (plugo) so +2
2 voting to keep the embassy
So not including me it is 7 No 2 Yes (for sentagon)
New Bacon
What i'm WA delegate again?
Malcholm, Plugo
Order of Lazarus is a puppet of Order of Hospitallers and check the motto, it has his name and plugo's on it.
Malcholm, Plugo
Or at least he changed the motto to something else but it was spotted that both nations started with Order Of ---. XD XD XD XD XD XD.
O_O
Plugo, I demand you abstain or withdraw your vote. I see you have offered to do so already.
I actually agree with Selven on this one, this is not our business Plugo, just abstain.
Malcholm
Hey [nation=short]new_Bacon[/nation], could you appoint me to something with communications authority till I'm back in the delegates seat? I'm seeing some nonsense I'd like suppressed.
New Bacon, Order Of Hospitallers, Plugo, Exotic Lemon
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Forestavia, New Bacon, Order Of Hospitallers
My reason for mass suppression is that Bunicken and the NCO need to settle their differences somewhere that isn't our RMB. Fair enough?
New Bacon, Plugo
I don't suppose anyone is willing to give me a quick summary of the situation?
Plugo
Insanity....
*Forestavia makes a case in Sentagon against Hospitallers*
RP:
Forestavia's representative addressed the body.
"Hospitallers has violated and abused his governmental authority according to [spoiler=Section 11]11. Every resident nation not serving on the Lunar Council or in the Delegacy shall automatically be considered a member of Sentagon.[/spoiler] of the working constitution. Hospitallers is an elected Lunar Council Member. However, Hospitallers has voted in both the Council and in Sentagon violating a basic principle that the three branches of government remain separate.
Furthermore, [spoiler=Section 20]20. A council member may be impeached with a sixty percent vote of Sentagon and with the approval of the Delegate.[/spoiler] grants Sentagon the authority to impeach a member of the Lunar Council with sixty percent of the votes cast. We should hold this over Hospitallers head as a perpetual threat. Sentagon is strong and the will of this body will not be manipulated by our elected government. Although, I am personally against impeachment at this time, I do not think we should rule it out in the future. Our wonderful and glorious region's democratic process is being threatened before our very eyes...."
Malcholm
10. Malcholm retakes the Delegacy! Veto reaffirmed.
11. Sentagon has trouble reaching a simple majority of votes cast in any category. Abstain - 3/ Yes - 3/ No - 6 (Lazarus not included)/ No - 8 (Lazarus included)
Malcholm, Parakka Northland
Yea?
I made that puppet to raid once, now its hospitallers.
(not inducing his puppet)
Yes - 2
No - 6
Abstain - 2
A member of the fleet has not held the delegacy here for a long while.
I think its time again.
Assembled with Dot's Region Saver.
Written by Refuge Isle.