Post Archive
Region: The Mystical Council
Rad. I will donate 300 crates of lemons and $2 million to the bear commie
Gyuamno, Truxol
Great, all of this will be sent to [nation=short]Forestavia[/nation]. I added you as a Foreign Sponsor. We do not use any of your contributions without your explicit consent, as a majority of GAED is covered by the Gyuamnan government so you do not have to worry. Any donation is appreciated!
Forestavia, New Bacon, Exotic Lemon
I'll sponsor!
Gyuamno
Awesome! :-D
What do you want your fund name to be?
Does anyone want to form a defense alliance?
Preferably close to me on the map, https://www.scribblemaps.com/maps/view/Mystical_Council_Map/D1IEa47hpw
However, I'm willing to waive the proximity preference if I feel it would be beneficial for us.
(this is for roleplay/nation history purposes, I'm not waging war lols)
New Bacon
As moltavo is no longer playing and Norway/Sweden used to be mine, can I have Norway and Sweden back [nation=short]new bacon[/nation]
Gyuamno, New Bacon
I'm over near Russia so it's easy to find, the map can get crazy.
[nation=short]parakka_northland[/nation] and [nation=short]viva_italia[/nation]
https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=96454 has ended in a tie. whoever has the tie-breaking vote needs to use it.
Viva Italia
Tomorrow is the Buck Moon. I will put a poll up in Mystical Council for Lunar Council candidates. If you're interested or would like to nominate someone, take an opportunity to vote over in the poll.
Gyuamno, Malcholm
Ok but did you legally fill out the map form? I have to send the claim to the GSB.
Exotic Lemon
Very nice. I will be buying stock in the Bickford Group. They are a solid company!
Gyuamno
Much better. Less work I have to do. As long as the trains run on time I'll be happy.
Truxol
Excellent choice! Would this be preferred or common stock?
Forestavia
What's the difference? Tell me the pros and cons.
Common stock you receive voting rights, and your cash flow will be fluctuating dividends or by selling shares. Uncertain.
Preferred stock you have no voting rights, but you receive your cash flow in the form of a fixed dividend payment or by selling. Certain.
Preferred stock dividends are paid out before common stock and since preferred stock is paid out in determined intervals at a fixed price it is more predictable.
Common stock you are at the whim of the board of directors ;)
There's a lot more to it but those are the general themes. Preferred stock is almost but not quite a bond.
Truxolian Anti Normie Brigade
Gyuamno
we need some new members to join the region, we are just recycling the same xx amount of people in the government. they just get a new title every few months.
Truxol
might i even say the government is too large to function appropriately!?!? there is nearly one or two vacancies every term.
Truxol
Did someone define what a Fire Chief is? Does it have office powers or is it ceremonial?
Also I am clearly the Fire Chief. In my previous incarnation I deal with fire as Chef, and in my current incarnation I sacrifice heretics to burn in the fires of Mount [nation=short]Mugwop[/nation].
Forestavia says we can define it once its voted to exist.
I vote against the poll.
We dont need to go off half cocked.
For one we dont need a larger government, for two making a position without clear powers is very stupid, if you want to propose a new position you need to have a dispatch on its power and function.
I agree with this and will vote no as well, unless I am declared the Fire Chief as I should be.
#BurnTheHeretics #BurnTheCeleryPervert
New Bacon, Exotic Lemon
Fire chief is the highest government position to have, it's truly an honor. Fire chief has authority over everything
Ur welcome.
But seriously. Why does everything need to have power? Why can't it just be a fun little thing to get engagement and do minor role play with? If I was the fire chief I wouldn't need no fancy office title with powers like you big wigs. I'd create my own factbook talking about history of the position, fire prevention, fire operations... Etc.
And then you'll say what's the point if it has no power?
IT'S FOR FUN.
Forestavia, Malcholm
[nation=short]New_Bacon[/nation] you slimy bacon man you dont accept telegrams from me. Here's a copy pasta:
Bacon Boy did you ever do anything with the Police Chief and EMS service?
Maybe if not region wide we can have some bilateral agreement on the service to begin? If popular enough maybe other people will opt into the service.
New Bacon
No I was lazy and hoping you would keep my old map request from a long time ago.
Gyuamno, New Bacon
Be on the safe side it's quick!
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSea48E2FQEu-UTuTHERXPVVlPnwwTNA8_FGs-OPYXSy-9YibQ/viewform
Oh I'm sorry kek. I didn't remove you. I didn't send a regionwide telegram yet however about police/EMS. I came up with several names for the service however.
Gyuamno
So as we have two polls that resulted in a tie I believe [nation=short]Parakka_Northland[/nation] is the tiebreaker.
Gyuamno, New Bacon, Exotic Lemon
In regards to the constitution poll I have decided that we should go with the no vote. The reason being that author has decided on that choice and if he doesn't feel it's ready for a test drive then I don't either.
In regards to the Defence poll, I have considered both sides rather carefully and have come to a conclusion that despite my vote that we should appoint two people with specific powers of border control. My recommendation for the post should be either two of the following [nation=short]New_bacon[/nation], [nation=short]Malcholm[/nation], [nation=short]Forestavia[/nation] (if he is found innocent), [nation=short]Exotic_Lemon[/nation] and [nation=short]mugwop[/nation]. Each person has a strong history with the region and I think would serve the region well as security officers and can be trusted in the position.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Exotic Lemon, Viva Italia
[nation=short]Forestavia[/nation] I don't know how useful that Fire Chief thing, but your next order of business should be gathering regional opinion and idea about the house of lords matter in the constitution.
Forestavia, Parakka Northland
Kind of you to nominate me, but I must decline. I already have border control, and this was designed to allow other people to serve the region, not give me more power and keep me in the government should my term end and oak isn't revived.
New Bacon, Parakka Northland
It has almost been a month since i was banned from Solar Alliance.
I was never given a trial or way to defend myself and i have been removed from the map, only contacted once, on the original ban day, informing me i was banned.
I've logged in every day checking tg's and have recived nothing.
#GetRidOfDelegate[nation=short]parakka_northland[/nation]
#StopTheSolarAllianceHate
#BurnTheSolarEmbassy
Gyuamno
How rude can you possibly be?
Take your Solar Alliance mess somewhere else. That's a matter of Solar Alliance and you. You're in The Mystical Council [nation=short]Borbun[/nation] (aka Rondaland)
We have an embassy with Solar Alliance so it should concern us. They appear to wrongly ban nations with no reason and leave them in the dark. Should note many of the nations banned from Solar Alliance are citizens of The Mystical Council. Maybe we should reconsider our relationship with Solar Alliance!
Exotic Lemon
[nation=short]Truxol[/nation] you should investigate this!
Truxol, Exotic Lemon
He's not even a member of our region anymore.
Malcholm, Parakka Northland
I have said this before and I will say it again, it's down to the security council of the solar alliance to sort out. I have already passed my opinion onto them about this matter. If you haven't been contacted since the date of the ban I would recommend that you contact them and ask what's going on.
To my knowledge only two nations have been banned that have contentions with TMC. If there are more then I am all ears as to who they are.
Forestavia
I know, as I said merely a recommendation. So how are we going to decide who becomes the regions border guards?
I figured we could eventually have an election, but for now just appoint 2 temporary guards
Parakka Northland
I'm open to recommendations for the choices
Exotic Lemon
I think [nation=short]new bacon[/nation], [nation=short]barishmacht[/nation], [nation=short]mugwop[/nation], or any of your other choices would all be fine. This is just temporary.
Parakka Northland
That is a matter of SA on the ban, Not TMC.
Parakka Northland
It involves TMC citizens!
It is what it is, it's just like going to another country and violating their laws. For example, your not protected by the US constitution in other countries. So whatever happened in Solar Alliance is their matter. Our region working out a deal does not help and may create a bigger problem later on. If I was a founder I would not overstep my bounds either. [nation=short]borbun[/nation] and [nation=short]alistia[/nation] need to work it out themselves with the security council. I'm not trying to be rude but it is what it is. Our laws don't extend to Solar Alliance nor does Solar Alliance laws extend to us.
Parakka Northland
[nation=short]Forestavia[/nation] is our ambassador there. He was asked to investigate the matter, and reported that the way the nations were treated had nothing to do that they originated from TMC. As such they weren't mistreated based on their connection to our region, which means we have no jurisdiction over the matter.
Case closed. Beyond that Rondaland and Alistia can ask Forest to look again in the matter, but until there's something solid, there's nothing we can our should do from our end.
Forestavia, New Bacon, Parakka Northland
It is odd why those nations were banned
Gyuamno
If a U.S. citizen was wrongly detained ie by the North Koreans and sentenced to years of hard labor, the United States opens diplomatic talks to try to negotiate the safe return.
In the case where our citizens were wrongly banned from a region that we have an embassy with maybe we should look into this. Seems like the Solar Alliance Security Council is a ring of unchecked power ruffians! At least give the people of TMC a definitive answer on why they were banned, because honestly if it's a good reason then I support their decision. The only thing I saw from Solar Alliance was them citing "a threat" which doesn't seem like a good reason without elaboration. Then they start posting here arguing with Alistia about whatever. Not a good look if you ask me!
New Bacon
Thing is they should not have been on the TMC RMB arguing in the first place.
And I have evidence that the Solar Alliance Security Council violated their own Constitution.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=25980355
The Temporary State of Emergency was called by the Security Council, but only the Chancellor/World Assembly Delegate has that authority as pursuant to Article 4 §7 https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=698903 as my records show East Teutonia was not the delegate at the time, and he clearly stated this was on behalf of the SASC.
Truxol
That was me and a couple officers of sa, and the tmc embassy was the only way to communicate since i was banned and had sent them tgs before.
He's here and is a past govt officer so obviously he is.
No one cares.
[nation=short]parakka[/nation] just says the sasc made their decision and thats that, so if the person never got a tg its not his concern and he doesnt care. (though it should be since he is the leader there and here but o well)
We can't do anything about it so no point in even talking about it anymore.
I haven't gotten any tg in 10 days and im still banned but too bad we cant do anything about it and parakka cant do anything about it or tell us anything either. Id hope since he is basically the leader of both regions he could do or communicate something but obviously not.
So case closed just put case to rest since nothing will ever happen.
Don't you have some amazing regional defense thing you've been working on for over a month? I'd like to see :-)
Truxol
The thing i made was refused to be put in polls by the people who had the authority to put it in so i can't do anything and its not my concern anymore.
:/
Gyuamno, New Bacon, Truxol
Darn! Another bill that wasn't seen through... :-( i still luv u alistia
Alistia, New Bacon, Truxol
I now sad ;(.
I basically had it done but the domestic affairs minister at the time refused to put it in soo.
New Bacon, Truxol
Maybe pass it on to [nation=short]Exotic_Lemon[/nation] and he can work his lemony magic and try to push it through.
Alistia, Truxol
Me, Ronda, Tumetu and Civ (civs wasn't a perma ban)
Truxol
I have a more stately flag now :-O
Malcholm, Truxol
I see red still there
Iz gud
Red is communism yes
Gyuamno, Forestavia, Viva Italia
This is under your jurisdiction and you can reinvestigate it.
Our ambassador, Forest, to SA had this to say on the matter:
His statement is that this is something between Alistia/Rondaland and SA, and that TMC as a region has no jurisdiction or relation to the issue.
However, [nation=short]Truxol[/nation] you are the minister of Foreign Affairs and as such you're the main foreign representative of our region. So this falls under your reponsbilities and you can take a look at it yourself; talk with SA members, and gather any relevant matter to the issue.
I am sorry, but there were election polls in both MC and TMC at the time and there was nothing I could do but postpone :(
Forestavia, Alistia, Truxol, Parakka Northland
Can those of us who were banned from SA please telegram me at their earliest convience. I will be conducting short interviews with you and then once I have some data I'll talk with the someone in SA about getting a reason why the person was banned and if the ban is able to be lifted.
New Bacon
Keep in mind the comments were made in direct reply go comments made against SA on the TMC RMB. Personally it should have all been kept to telegrams.
It was backed by the Chancellor at the time.
It's not the case that I don't care. Also to my understand you and borbun received a telegram as to why you were banned. Furthermore, if you have not had communication from them you could try sending them a message?
Whilst I won't go into the case. I will say that there are calls from some within the SASC to move this along as it's taking a rather long time to conclude. Also keep in mind we have a new member on SASC who needs to be brought up to speed which again is taking time.
Tumetu was papa karn right? If so yeah he is staying on the ban list for frankly being an idiot/not listening and having his nation image of real world nation's flags burning.
I believe it was skybernet right [nation=short]alistia[/nation]? I would be willing to work on it more, if [nation=short]forestavia[/nation] would allow me to use a poll soon.
Gyuamno
"lemony magic"? That is the greatest thing I have ever read. Thank you [nation=short]gyuamno[/nation]
Gyuamno
mmm yas red is stronk color of gyuamno communist party
y didnt the chancellor issue it then if he is the only one with that power? seems like the sasc is power hungry expanding their power under the guise they are doing it on behalf of the chancellor!
all in a day's work lemon man, you are welcome. your magic sorcery never ceases to amaze me.
Truxol, Exotic Lemon
That's not a question I can answer. I know the chancellor at the time, gave permission as he told me.
Just passing through on my 'tour de embassies'. Wanted to say hi!
Gyuamno, Forestavia, New Bacon, Truxol, Parakka Northland
Hi
New Bacon, Truxol
At the request of [nation=short]exotic_lemon[/nation] I have appointed two temporary Border Guards till something more permanent can be agreed
New Bacon, Truxol, Exotic Lemon
5K influence already!!! Wow.
Forestavia, Parakka Northland
Speaking of that how do you guys want guard nominations to run? I was thinking just people volunteer, and if we have more than 2 then have an election.
Truxol
I just got a 3D printer. What do you guys think I should print?
Malcholm, Parakka Northland
An octopus.
New Bacon, Parakka Northland
A statue to your crazy cult
Forestavia, New Bacon
[nation=short]Malcholm[/nation], [nation=short]Viva italia[/nation], and [nation=short]Parakka Northland[/nation],
I'm turning over the polls in both regions over to you guys for the next few days. I'm going to be a little too busy to run them for the next few days. I think I saw a request from Mugwop somewhere on the RMB but I can't find it. Feel free to take poll requests.
Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
I'd like a poll on everyone's favorite communist. And the only choices are karl marx, trosky, lenin, stalin, mao, kim il sung, and bernie sanders
Gyuamno, Exotic Lemon, Viva Italia, Zaraheemia
A-ha!
I have finally found the elusive Google Maps car driving around. See you on Google Maps, suckers!
New Bacon, Truxol, Parakka Northland, Viva Italia
Yeah I found you
New Bacon, Truxol
If the poll does not include Rosa Luxemburg
Riot
[B]Read all about it!. New editions of The Geotopia Times, The Northern Lights, The People's Tribune, The Rocklands Gazzete and Wild Things!
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=818815
Exotic Lemon
Fish!
It's fishing weekend again in The Bear Country. Love to see you guys there
Gyuamno, New Bacon, Truxol, Exotic Lemon
Let me get out my tackle box and rod, I'll be over in a jiff!
New Bacon, Truxol
Fishing poles are for weaklings. The cult of [nation=short]mugwop[/nation] catches fish with their hands or sharpened sticks. They then cover the fish with celery and grill them over a volcano
Forestavia, New Bacon, Truxol
*enthusiastic sigh*
I've been sick for three weeks, hurray!
Truxol
Not sure why "hurray", but I do hope you feel better. Who else will spread communism?
Gyuamno, Truxol
Quick Announcement
Starting later today, I will be gone from Nationstates for a whole week (7 days, maybe 8). I will not be able to work as defense minister, so I ask somebody (I would like to recommend [nation=short]new bacon[/nation]) fill my place. Also, you may want to appoint a third guard, as I cannot use my border control.
Truxol, Parakka Northland, Viva Italia
Iz ok, already have set plan for communist revolution in region.
I have left 10 copies of communist manifesto under parakka's doorstep every day. I think it might be working, as yesterday he only yelled "stupid commie" once instead of the usual 3 times.
Gyuamno, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon, Viva Italia
then you must continue to give him pamphlets
Truxol
That's the best way to cook fish!
Truxol, Exotic Lemon
We must be proud of this stronk movement for equality.
Truxol
*Begins twitching*
Gotta try to keep my cool. The courtroom is...much pressure.
*Eyes up the Delegacy*
Now that I've got a taste of power in the ministry... maybe - maybe all this power is going my head. Maybe I could be - Stronk Leader.
Gyuamno, Malcholm, Truxol, Parakka Northland
Hey maybe you will run against me when I eventually run for delegate. But why you eyeing it when you can literally become the emperor again by typing in a password
Truxol, Parakka Northland
Because I must have the blessing of our region's Guardians. Just typing in a password to overrule their authority isn't very democratic.
Truxol, Parakka Northland
Yum!
I heard from a capitalist that communism is a disease. It's spreading?
Gyuamno, Truxol
Unfortunately... But if I am able to take the delegacy I will squash the communist movement and then I will abolish fishing licenses.
Truxol
Ah yeah I realised something.... your manifesto was saving me money in terms of wood for my fire ;)
Forestavia, Truxol
QUICK EVERYONE! Close your eyes and endorse me for Viceroy! We've been moving forward under Parakka. Now is your chance to move the region forward some more! Endorse me quick before midnight. It's time for a really powerful. *Ahem* Really great things to happen...
Truxol, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
Should have said it in a wisper haha
Forestavia, Truxol
My first regional law proposal as Domestic Minister:
REGIONAL LAW (Proposed July 15, 2017) -
In the interests of regional security, it is hereby deemed illegal to ban the founder, the founder's main, or any puppets belonging to the founder for any reason. This will keep the regional influence buffer strong as influence is essential for a secure region.
Truxol
I will be putting up the poll in - guess where??? Mystical Council
Truxol
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