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Region: The Mystical Council
I feel that you may be correct in this case. Perhaps I am overstepping my authority. These actions are not specifically listed in the constitution. I am essentially passing legislation with the wave of one hand. Good job, Bacon. :)
Very well, then. I will keep the program voluntary for now and we will vote on it in the future.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Frankiestine, Plugo
And [nation=short+noflag]forestavia[/nation] I mean that would be good is random inspection but, the only other restriction is quorum.
What do you mean specifically by quorum? Separation of branches of government (that no nation may vote in more than one branch)?
Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Either that or use the poll restrictions that are already there.
Frankiestine
Yet another puppet of [nation=short]Pyrosky[/nation] / [nation=short]malcholm[/nation], will confirm momentarily.
New Bacon, Frankiestine, Plugo
Confirming, and I should mention that my current WA nation is [nation=short]Pyrosky[/nation].
New Bacon, Frankiestine, Plugo
Thanks Malcholm!
Malcholm, Frankiestine
This is a very good idea.
Malcholm
It all checks out. Oak, there's part of me that admires your push for a transparent government, but the other part of me is screaming that this policy--in a mandatory state--just wouldn't be right for this region. I'd like to think that every member of The Mystical Council is an intelligent and capable human being. I know that there's players in this game who can and will take our trust for granted, but I don't think that we should need to resort to such rigorous tactics for maintaining authenticity. While it's a great idea, I feel that keeping a regional database should be a last resort.
New Bacon
I'm struggling with it too. I want to find a way to balance nations' privacy as well as voter accountability. My policy also puts our region at an R/D disadvantage because now our enemies will now where we are all located. This in turn could directly effect the success of ANTICOM and ORCA operations.
New Bacon, Malcholm
I'd also like to include [region=Disboard] in the list of regions to be removed from the EPA. The region is permanently closing until further notice.
New Bacon, Frankiestine
Ok, cool.
New Bacon
I love that description! It's perfect! :)
"If you're interested in hectic political role play, regional governments, and truly insane shenanigans, head over to The Mystical Council!"
New Bacon, Malcholm
I'm heading to bed for the night. I'm going to sleep on all of these ideas. I appreciate all of the input from everyone.
New Bacon, Malcholm
Well Malcholm this would be a major struggle for the region. My brain is split with contradicting arguments on whether I should veto this action or approve if voted on.
Malcholm
Personally I don't there is an east way of dealing with voter fraud. I know the system we have imposed in Solar Alliance isn't ideal by any means but at the time it was better than saying only WA members can vote. Personally as I'm / my region isnt part of ANTICOM and ORCA I don't mind being on the data base but if I were I would share concerns about possible opponents knowing where I were
New Bacon, Malcholm, Frankiestine, Rondaland
We will find a compromise that probably will not be perfect but will be workable. I am back on board with the security act. One of the primary functions of the Director of Defense will be to assist and oversee along with the founder the database I came out with yesterday. Due to military issues the Database, it may not be public to everyone at all times for very much longer. I think we will need to find a way to have elected government officers have access to the content on request. The Presidents, Founder, and Director of Defense should have access at all times. The Delegate and other members of the Lunar Council may have access with the appropriate clearances. The Security act isn't doing so well right now just glancing at it. Be sure to vote for or against it here >>> Sentagon
Let's see what happens with this current vote first and take it from there. If it passes we will incorporate this voluntary program into the Intelligence Division's assignments. If the Security Act fails to pass, I'm not going to know what to do.
RP Headlines:
Region flirts with big government
Constitutional Convention slows to crawl
Forestavia abuses "emergency powers" - appoints 'Judge of Elections'
Founder gives nod - Everloyal poised for promotion one way or another!
New Bacon, Malcholm, Frankiestine
What if one of our nations was a regularly checked puppet of Misley, but he was not using it to spread communism and was a real nice member of our community.
He shouldn't be forced to reveal his identity which may ruin is reputation.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
The WA has bans on genocide and torture, so all my nations are unable to join.
New Bacon, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Frankiestine, Plugo
So what should we do [nation=short+noflag]forestavia[/nation] should we put it to vote or not? This is referring to the voter authentication thing.
Plugo
Hm.. Even if we accept him, his fleeter comrades might not accept his "uncommunist behavior". :\
Maybe create a nation whose politics are more in line with the WA? Personally I pretty much assume for roleplay that the locals in AU912 are doing everything they can get away with to find workarounds.
New Bacon, Malcholm
This proposed WA thing is worse then the patriot act
Forestavia, New Bacon, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
RIP Communism.
The only true communist nation is now converting to capitalism.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/cuba-moves-to-legalize-small-and-medium-size-businesses-1464132702
Forestavia, New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Parakka Northland
Oh, no! I've been found out! But this region is on the brink of crisis! We've got to do something about it! We are the government! We've got to take action and we've got to do it now! ;)
*Whispers*
Misley, if you're out there we need a fleeter invasion. Only the threat of fleeter communism will unite our region enough so that I can force the Patriot Act down everyone's throat.
Yeah, let's vote on it. I'm just curious to see how unpopular this is.
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RP:
Kyle Potatolover in Sentagon
"I fear this region is on the brink of insanity! We must do something scandalous and justify it with beautiful rhetoric! Hear me, oh great nations. Do you feel that? Very recently, nearly every proposal that has been brought to the floor has failed to pass. We need reasons! I want to know what the deal breaker language is in these proposals from all you nations on the other side of the isle! The deal-breaker reasons for voting against the Security Act are important to know. We must construct a new proposal that compromises and adequately addresses all our regional concerns. The toads are coming!"
New Bacon, Malcholm, Frankiestine, Plugo, Parakka Northland
Music to my ears. I guess they discovered that business is good for the economy. ^_^
New Bacon, Plugo
RP:
Kyle Potatolover stood up once more.
"In a feeble attempt to have my proposals gain popularity I am going to stage myself as standing for the rights of all nations. This is what we must do. We must repeal the New Bacon Appearance Act so that any nation can create a map anytime they want to. I stand for the people! Is it not the inherent right of every nation here to create their own map? And likewise for any other nation to partake in such maps? I view it as a simple right to do business between the buyer and seller. Hear the toads. Our Delegate cannot, must not, should not have a monopoly on the maps. Oh, say the toads. And furthermore! We shall liberate ourselves once and for all from the office of map ministry. This much is certain: We will open up reality in such a way so that we can jump from land to land - planet to planet - reality to reality. Map minister shall be replaced with Star Gate Minister who will be in charge of keeping a database of every map created by every nation in this region. Hahahaha! Let the toads sing."
Suddenly the Forestavian representative fell over and entered into a trance. "The spirits are whispering to me....."
New Bacon, Malcholm
Seems like i need to take over the delegacy to force things to happen again :p
I wish he would lol
New Bacon
Bunicken everytime i see your flag, i imagine this: https://ranibakr.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/gadsden2.jpg?w=490&h=306
Rrepaimziaraseh, Malcholm, Frankiestine, Tumetu-Iin Noyan, Rondaland
Maybe we could get some fascists to invade (;
Forestavia, New Bacon, Frankiestine
I didn't even realize how long it'd been since I proposed some kind of legislation.
I guess I'll fix that.
New Bacon
Voice of Taharqa
Of course everybody can make maps and draw their own boundaries. That's exactly why I ask someone on what territory they want. If you must repeal the Appearance act do so.
Unfortunately I've been pretty busy with life. Fezchia(formerly firstguy1) is going to make some kind of mod map for everyone. And I'll continue to produce maps.
Malcholm
http://i.imgur.com/FyreMkK.png
New Bacon
Creepy guy from the shadows.
"Hey, Taharqa.
You want some potatoes? I found a big stash over in the Isles."
New Bacon, Malcholm
[/region]
No! We need the fascists on our side for Operation Potato Plunder. We also need the commies on our side to - they will help redistribute the potatoes. Together we can guarantee a lifetime of potatoes for our region's citizens as well as any region who chooses to help us in this quest.
We Forestavians hereby declare every potato in The Greater Holy Isles from henceforth and forever from now on the property of The Mystical Council. We lay claim to every potato!
[nation=short]Plugo[/nation] you will be the point! Everyone will endorse you. Gather the Celts. Irish potato famine? Never again! Pyrosky's goin' down!
I will gather more troops from Bunicken and Sacred Order Of Fire. We need every Bunickist, every Wolf, every Mystic. Those potatoes are ours!
New Bacon, Malcholm
Taharqa Speaks,
"Sure"
Star Wars Battlefront will also reap a sizable chunk of the plunder.
New Bacon, Malcholm
Standing orders:
Come over here and help me look for the big potato stash.
Cross-Endorse
New Bacon, Malcholm
Sure, but first we need to finish taking the potatoes from Ciss, could you help us get the potatoes from there?
New Bacon
Oh, I guess that is a priority. I'll be right over.
New Bacon, Malcholm
Yea, just one guy stopping us.
Once we kick him our we will have the potato horde all for ourselves!
New Bacon
I got a text from a stranger early this morning:
"ni**er"
one minute later:
"sry wrong number"
So what did you guys wake up to today?
Malcholm, Frankiestine, Tumetu-Iin Noyan
Gunshots, then the sound of a fire truck.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Frankiestine
Sounds like you've both had pleasant days.
New Bacon, Frankiestine, Rondaland
Crying from my 7 month old lol
New Bacon, Malcholm, Frankiestine
Mod map? You mean, he intends to mash them all together?
Frankiestine
a map of the region, every nations included
New Bacon, Malcholm
Yes what plugins said I will edit the nations in the original map to the region ones according to the region map. Nations that aren't affected will stay the way it was
New Bacon, Malcholm
I'll start it tonight
New Bacon, Malcholm, Tumetu-Iin Noyan
Well plugo and Fezchia explained...
Malcholm, Tumetu-Iin Noyan
k.
even though im away atm i would still like to be included.
New Bacon, Tumetu-Iin Noyan
Hey [nation=short]dosh semiw[/nation]! Long time no see. Everyone, this guy came from the region Disboard, one of Malcholm's regions that's now closing.
Dosh Semiw, Malcholm, Oakplumington, Order Of Hospitallers, Parakka Northland
Thanks for the the welcome!
New Bacon, Malcholm, Oakplumington, Order Of Hospitallers, Parakka Northland
*Sizes up newcomer*
"Welcome young grasshopper! There is much work that needs to be done. Follow me..."
*They enter a mysterious room. Walks over to chest.*
"Your mission is to change the world. Here, carry this with you always."
*Hands lava lamp*
"Gaze into it. Let the glow illuminate your soul. Do not deviate from the path."
Anyway, this region's quite a trip sometimes. ^_^
I hope you enjoy your time here. :)
Dosh Semiw, New Bacon, Tumetu-Iin Noyan, Parakka Northland
I decided to make this post our regional welcome telegram until someone else decides to make one. Whatever happened to that discussion? I think Chef brought up the welcome telegram awhile back. Hey Chef, I would like to propose this as our regional welcome telegram. What do you think?
Dosh Semiw, New Bacon, Tumetu-Iin Noyan, Parakka Northland
Gotta be honest my man, the *something something* parts are kinda cringy, and so is that mysterious sex dungeon thing. So yeah, pretty much the whole thing is a bit of a cringe.
In a welcome telegram you wanna give a brief description about what the region is about, and what makes it stand out. I think our region has a great model of democracy, so that's worth mentioning.
If you wanna make it RP themed then that's cool, but still keep it informative, and as short as you can. So no redundant speech, like I am doing here, telling you not to write a whole bunch of unnecessary things. No newcomer is interested in seeing articles in the welcome telegram.
And adding a link to this good dispatch is also a good idea, https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=442427 You don't want people to run around wondering "what the hell is a "Sentagon" and why are all these crazies talking about all the damn time."
Dosh Semiw, New Bacon, Malcholm, Oakplumington, Tumetu-Iin Noyan, Parakka Northland
Lastly, nations like it when you put their own names in the telegram. So add
%NATION%
to the telegram, this will change to the name of the receiver. Note that this does not work in standard telegrams, it works in welcome, and I also think recruitment telegrams.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Oakplumington, Parakka Northland
I'm going to talk your ear off for a sec and everyone else's ears too (metaphorically speaking since I'm typing). And why not? I'm up. it's late. We've gotten some new members lately so it helps to review things.
I can't remember if we decided with the 48-hour rule (but I'll just go with that) 48 hours after you arrive you will automatically become a member of Sentagon. And I see that you are a WA member nation. That means that you have ***2 VOTES*** in Sentagon instead of just one. You are extra powerful. Sentagon is the third branch of government and is sort of a catch-all for all non-elected members of government. It has its own region for it's own polls and proposals.
The Lunar Council is another branch of government. We are currently holding one election per full moon. There are five members. If it wasn't for the Executive Delegacy, they would probably be the most powerful branch of government. They are also the region's supreme court as well as legislative body, and they each individually have relatively broad powers.
The Delegate is the executive branch and can be elected or booted out of office at any time. Any WA nation can launch a campaign for the Delegacy at any time.
So, those are the basics. We talk a lot in this region, accomplish very little, and a have a ton of fun doing it. We do defending with Orca Hq unofficially (we haven't voted on it yet), raiding with Anticom, and as of a few days ago silly RP invading of our own embassy regions - well one region in particular (My Potatoes!). Our region is HUGE compared to last year so I think Zombie Apocalypse Day will be something special. I'm looking forward to that. Last year, we were one of the safest regions. This year? It may be a little different. But fear not! AU912 has a zombie survival bunker! (Au912 Zombie Survival Bunker)
And this is very important. We do not yet have an official constitution. After the Lunar Council elections are done this month. With or without input, I'm going to present a constitution for approval. We are having a constitutional convention right now, but there isn't much debate taking place so I assume everyone's happy with Version 2. If it is not ratified successfully, I have no idea what I'm going to do. I think The Mystical Council will explode - I really do. We may have to go constitutionless. Who knows!
New Bacon, Malcholm, Tumetu-Iin Noyan
That's good advice! Haha! I wasn't even thinking anything dirty. It's funny that as you were posting this I was typing up that other long thing that sort of goes over everything. We could adapt that to a welcome telegram.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Tumetu-Iin Noyan
If it's in the dispatch don't mention it in the telegram itself. Too much clutter. Just say something like "if you're interested to learn about our regional government, check out this factbook https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=587227 " Just something along those lines.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Oakplumington, Tumetu-Iin Noyan
Great idea on the 48-hour rule but my idea was also the influence rule. In order for them to become a member of Sentagon they can't have zero influence meaning they just arrived.
Well 48 hrs and no zero influence combined would work
Tumetu-Iin Noyan
You are welcome to join our political party!
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=tumetu-iin_noyan/detail=factbook/id=main
Oakplumington
Oak, Plugo told me about the embassy thing, im about to cleanup.
Can you send me the protected embassy list?
Oakplumington
Let's see where did I put it?
*Trips over pile of papers in office*
Here it is!
Scroll down to number 4: http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=454436
Malcholm
[nation=short]Alpha Wolf[/nation] has approached me about a possible merge with Sacred Order Of Fire and New Celtic Order. My overall feeling is that it is just too soon for our region to merge in the traditional way with any other regions. I like what we have here. However, I think I may have come up with an idea to keep each of our region's sovereignty.
This is an idea I sent to Alpha:
"We could do a Soft Merge where each of our regions can remain open and relatively autonomous with their own functioning governments to some extent but united around a central region. This new region could be a "Colony-Treaty Alliance-Merge Point". This could be an interesting experiment. I feel like I could get behind it."
I think it's a nice way to remain independent but still get the experience of what it would be like to merge with other regions and their cultures to see if it would be a good fit. If we wanted to go in the water a little deeper we could, or we could get out - whatever our regional needs are.
Speak your mind people. What do you think, everyone? If we get enough interest then Alpha and I will continue throwing ideas back and forth. I will include the Lunar Council, Delegate, Sentagon President in future telegrams.
Dosh Semiw, New Bacon, Malcholm, Tumetu-Iin Noyan
[nation=short]oakplumington[/nation] what was your thoughts on my idea that I stated earlier on the RMB?
I think it will be easier to do a 48-hour time limit. Every nation that moves to a new region will start with zero influence but will have some influence after 48 hours. If we base it off of influence, the older our region gets the longer it could take for nations to reach higher influence categories. That could be confusing down the road. We could do something simple like once you reach any category above "zero" or something like that.
Influence and the amount of time you're in a region go hand-in-hand. It would be unnecessary to require both. I would stick with one or the other, preferably a set time period like 2-5 days.
Dosh Semiw, New Bacon, Malcholm
That's the same thing I said. Anything above zero influence. Whereas it will take them x amount of hours to get above zero influence once they arrive.
Normally [nation=short]oakplumington[/nation] the nations will gain influence after the major/minor updates. Which will take X amount of hours depending on when the nation arrives.
Oh yeah, I guess we are just saying the same thing in different way. :)
Is everyone ok with the length of time? Is two days appropriate?
New Bacon, Malcholm
Does anyone know what's so "essential" about essential oils? Sounds to me like a waste of time. What am I missing here? Someone explain to me the madness behind essential oils.
Forestavia, Malcholm
Well, they're essentially useless.
A little fore-note, my mom doesn't take essential oils seriously, she just got them to concoct her own shampoos and such.
My mother bought a fumigator type device that would dispense essential oil into the air in sickeningly potent quantities. After a while, we all start to get headaches and sore throat, so she asked her EO guru why that happened. The guru said the oil was "detoxing" our systems.
She was told that she had 127 unresolved "life-points." Using the oils in various different ways can be one way to resolve them, but the other involves buying more oil.
She bought oils from two different companies, but she only takes each respective kit to their individual EO gatherings. The atmosphere is so toxic, she's afraid that they'll shove her face down in one of the detoxing devices for some "spiritual cleansing" if she shows up with the wrong oils.
Honestly.
Forestavia, Rrepaimziaraseh
Also, 48 hour buffer is still fine by me!
New Bacon
I tell ya, this essential oils scam is a plight, and it goes up to the top.
Forestavia
Nations of The Mystical Council! I am Lucy Cavendish, founder of the region Queens Coming Into Our Own. We are pleased that your region has opened an embassy with ours.
Dosh Semiw, New Bacon, Malcholm
You guys sure love everything bold.
Malcholm
Post self-deleted by New Bacon.
Ok I guess we'll do the 48 hr buffer. OTHER NATIONS IF YOU ARE AGAINST OR HAVE ANY OTHER IDEAS, SPEAK NOW OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE!!!
Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Thank you! We look forward to working with you all.
With best regards,
[nation=short]new bacon[/nation]
Executive-Delegate of the Mystical Council
Malcholm
[B]Meh[/B]
Forestavia, Malcholm
Come play Cards Against NationStates! ^_^
http://www.nationstates.net/page=cardgame/gameid=6771
Forestavia, Tumetu-Iin Noyan
Has anyone one else bought Hearts of Iron IV. If so maybe we play a game after release to bond. (Disclaimer: I can't guarantee more than an hour of gameplay since i don't actually have a schedule to follow.) My Steam Profile name is JosephSemiw.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Tumetu-Iin Noyan
Also I apologize if this is inappropriate.
New Bacon
I haven't been on steam in a while you may want to ask [nation=short]fezchia[/nation](Firstguy1 Formerly) you should know him.
Dosh Semiw, Malcholm, Tumetu-Iin Noyan
I really just stick to ck2, though i am gonna get stellaris soon.
Dosh Semiw, New Bacon, Malcholm
So how is [nation=short]Plugo[/nation] a Lunar Council Member and not residing anymore in our region?
Forestavia, Malcholm
I am not required to be in the region.
Vacations are not allowed?
I helped you to get elected, but all you do is try to cause trouble..
New Bacon, Malcholm
No I am legitimately asking questions, it's nothing personal friend. I just didn't know that you can hold office even if you're not in the region.
New Bacon, Malcholm
What magic have I invoked once more.
Forestavia, New Bacon, Malcholm
Hey Netherfar lol!
For the life of me, and oh have I tried I just can't raise the economy, my care for the demonic fauna is much to great, and the star spawn are simply a must, we are a happy people, even if the trees have more civil rights.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Tumetu-Iin Noyan
Yeah except for the delegacy Because if one leaves the delegacy he/she won't hold office.
Rrepaimziaraseh, Tumetu-Iin Noyan
Please vote on the poll above which is the voluntary voter Act! Also our Secretary Delegate [nation=short]malcholm[/nation] may create another poll in Sentagon for any other proposed legislation. The poll above is one of the proposed legislations.
Malcholm
Thanks for the note.
New Bacon
You should be lucky this isn't the mafia.
New Bacon, Malcholm
Voting restrictions like natives and/or you must have a WA of some sort in the puppet registry to vote.
Oakplumington was the main person of the idea.
Assembled with Dot's Region Saver.
Written by Refuge Isle.