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Region: The Mystical Council
If its a native delegate, I couldn't care less, however if they came in as they did, it would be oddly suspicious
Wow guys things seem to be going to pot here. Where's the founder?
The founder is elsewhere.
Jinrun
Why?
Wow an edit button :) Also a founder doesn't abandon their region for no reason
Alistia, Parakka Northland
Correct! A founder doesn't abandon their region unless there is a really good reason. I thought that the region was strong enough and didn't need me anymore. But I'm starting to reconsider. Seems like there are still a lot of problems over here.
Should the founder return? Yes or No. Completely anonymous. Telegram me. Must have a WA AND must be located in The Mystical Council, Mystical Council, Warzone Tmc, Solar Alliance, Followers Of The Ferret, The Greater Holy Isles or Thanksgiving for your vote to count.
This anonymous telegram vote will go on for about a week.
Alistia, Malcholm, Terran Flux, Parakka Northland, Jinrun
I gather you are the puppet nation of the founder?
Im not a native here but I saw you should do what makes you happy. However, if you did comeback what would you do to help address the regions problems?
Alistia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland
Something I should have done a long time ago.
Parakka Northland, Jinrun
You're banned because of this post.
Parakka Northland, Jinrun
What the hell is going on?!
Jinrun
I'm back. We're gonna chill and prepare for Thanksgiving. We're on vacation! :)
No regional politics for awhile. We're going to spend some time working on our regional culture.
Parakka Northland, Jinrun
Did I make you proud in my time as delegate @daddy forest?
Also, uhm. I'm just gonna chill and not argue or anything
Oakplumington, Parakka Northland
Announcement:
Over the next few weeks we're going to take it easy and figure out where to go from here. A new democratic government will be instated soon. If you care about the region, then stay. If you don't, then leave.
You may safely return home if you wish.
Gyuamno, Parakka Northland
You were a good delegate. Sorry I took away your powers. Since there's so much instability in the region I think it's best for the moment.
Terran Flux, Parakka Northland
Fria Smrada, you may return if you wish.
Lame that you banned civ.
Lame that you refuse to let us self govern.
Lame that you force us to wait weeks to get things that need to be done, done.
Lame that wr cannot build new foreign relationships till the new year.
New Bacon, Exotic Lemon
Yes, I know how lame I am. But I'm really worried about our region. At least now we won't have to worry about power struggles until we get back up and running.
Is discord better described as a forum or a chat site?
Parakka Northland
Chat site.
Oakplumington, Parakka Northland
Thanks. I added the offsite chat tag since most of us use discord. I'll add a link into the WFE shortly.
Parakka Northland
Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Ok.
Terran Flux
Sorry.
ATTENTION!!! THE NEW BACON SUPREME COURT HAS DECLARED THAT THE GOVERNMENT PAGE BE BLOCKED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE!!! SORRY FOR THE INCONVIENCE!!!
Alistia
80% of my influence was burned on that password. I guess I'm glad it was me and not one of the actual influence tanks.
Alistia, Terran Flux, Parakka Northland
I am going to find a way to make that up to you. 80% of influence is no joke. We'll talk. I am really sorry about that.
Malcholm, Parakka Northland
What elections do you even have planned for a month away?
Malcholm, Terran Flux, Parakka Northland
I'm going to instate an emergency government which we will operate under temporarily until Bacon's or someone else's constitution is approved.
care to go into detail about what kind of government this will be? Positions, powers, etc?
This is ridiculous you got us under persecution!!!
Alistia
Basically we're going to go back to the original system for awhile. I haven't finished the emergency constitution yet. I'm tweaking it to conform to two branches of government. I'll come out with the system in about a week. For now we're going to chill for awhile.
I'm not persecuting anyone. I know it seems like such a foreign concept, but I've got the best interests of the region in mind. Stability is here.
I'm trying to clean out some of the dead embassies. Since you are the former foreign affairs minister let me know if you disagree with any of my decisions.
Malcholm
Exotic Lemon, Alistia, Can I get rid of Skybernet?
Post self-deleted by Alistia.
I have a half finished list
Red = close embassy
Black = keep
yellow = maybe
Forestavia
Here it is
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=911971
Forestavia
He is the current foreign affairs minister.
Yes.
And make sure none of the removed embassys are on the act!
We need bear country, red harbor, and libertarian capitalist freedom.
Forestavia, Terran Flux
TBG is and I ordered closure. Not really functioning.
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*changes mind* I would suggest that TBG gets removed from the embassy protection act however.
Forestavia, Alistia
Why Bear Country?
https://www.nationstates.net/region=bear_country
Wouldn't we keep "the" bear country?
https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_bear_country
Alistia, Terran Flux
Also, why the other two regions? I checked the list, any particular reason why'd we keep them?
Terran Flux
Ah yes! The pesky Embassy Protection Act. Hm...
Terran Flux, Parakka Northland
Drain the swamp baby!
Oakplumington, Parakka Northland
Welcome back! Right now I'm draining off the dead embassies.
Parakka Northland
https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=104702
Alistia - November 2017
https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=93278
New Bacon - May 2017
Malcholm, when is the last time you were elected to the Lunar Council?
https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=102871
The Immortal Elysium
Former Minister of Foreign/External Affairs - October 2017
https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=100553
Terran Flux - Former Minister of Defense
TMC has become a disaster of the highest order. I think the people here are trying to fix it, but you keep interfering and establishing whatever system YOU want, regardless of whatever everyone else wants. As such so long as you interfer, this region has zero hope. It will go the way that my old region The Union went with its terrible founder, who did exactly what you're doing, despite everyone else wanted.
So no thanks. I got something new in Followers of the Ferret, something fresh, something better.
Exotic Lemon
I wish you luck in your new region. But don't think for one second that TMC is over because it's not. It's not fixing itself. I stepped out of the way and things got worse. So I'm back. We will start with my system and the region can slowly evolve beyond it. They just need a stable foundation to start with. Then they can have whatever they want.
Alright, I guess the future will tell. Though I am not optimistic about your situation in the slightest.
It's definitely tricky. To be honest I'm not even sure I'm handling it right. I'm probably making all kinds of mistakes right now but that's ok, I guess. Life is about learning. I'm still hopeful and optimistic. This region is too much fun to let die! ;)
Parakka Northland
Announcement:
Ok everyone, I have a very rough sketch of government laid out. Very rough. I'm not sure what the powers are going to look like and I'm not sure how large the Lunar Council will be, but all of the people on the Lunar Council have been elected by the region at some point in time throughout the year. Most of them were elected to serve you within the past few months. Bacon and Malcholm were elected months ago but were still serving on the Judicial Council up until tonight so I gave them both a spot. See? I am still trying to uphold the spirit of democracy in these very challenging times.
Parakka Northland
We will be holding an election for a additional ("sixth?") spot on the Lunar Council on December 3rd. Only WA residents will be able to vote. Only candidates with a verifiable WA can run. The Delegate will still be elected by WA nations at any time via a free and open endorsement policy.
Parakka Northland
https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=100055
Parakka
Former Prime Minister - September 2017
Parakka Northland
bb you're back!
Gyuamno, Oakplumington, Exotic Lemon
*Sips tea*
Ah, that's good. I'm going to call it a night.
March, I believe.
This is what I'm thinking right now. Nothing's set in stone though. It could change.
Timeline:
December 3rd - First election under emergency government
January - New embassy construction resumes, additional powers granted
February - Various polls held, future of region discussed, Delegacy granted executive powers
March 1 - State of Emergency formally lifted
April 30- Forestavia is dismissed as Puppet with Emergency Powers
Yeesh, what happened?
Malcholm
Post self-deleted by Jinrun.
These are very easy times.
Oakplumington, Parakka Northland
i came bak 4 u bb
(and 4est and lemon man)
although thanksgiving was very relaxing. thanksgiving should be the TMC vacation retreat!
Malcholm, Oakplumington, Terran Flux, Parakka Northland
I'm working on stuff. This poor region's been through the works the past few weeks. My precious baby is sick and I'm worried!
Parakka Northland, Jorvas
That is a good question. Especially Red Harbor. I can't figure out why in the world we would have embassies with a passcoded enemy puppet region. Hopefully Alistia can enlighten us.
Alistia, Parakka Northland, Jorvas
I'm sure the system I've designed isn't perfect, but this is where we are going to start. If you don't like the system, then you're going to have to do the work to change it. Article 2 Section 2 gives you the ability to alter the system and to amend the constitution. You have the power.
Jorvas
Enemy?
Is stronk communist region
Oakplumington, Jorvas
Regional Supreme Court of Oakplumington. Lies all lies. Under the current government. Malcholm Alistia and myself are the regional Supreme Court, de jure!!!
Things are different now. I'm the judicial branch and all of you elected ones are part of the legislative branch.
Your a Justice, illegally. Hence why I said de jure, which means legal.
Alistia
Well, it's perfectly legal if you consider the fact that we are now operating under an emergency constitution. Everything is laid out here:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=683532
An emergency constitution at YOUR will, not anyone else's.
Do you really want to do this?
I could have just let TMC crumble to pieces but I chose to come back. We got a region to save. Are you going to help me or are you going to obstruct any attempt anyone makes at trying to fix things?
I don't mind the fixing, but dismissing the LEGAL government is not the answer in fixing things. This region has long not come to an agreement on most things. And the fact that the region is split, which means I can't control others opinions or votes. The fact that you have not supported me in over a year drives me to the point to say what is wrong and right. Dismissing the government is not changing people's votes/opinions on anything but to further split the region. Malcholm had decided to password the region for OUR safety at the request of Terran Flux. Your destroying what we as citizens did.
Alistia
I don't know what the right thing to do is for the region right now, but this is my last attempt to try to help. I supported your constitution. I tried pushing for it a few months ago. Don't tell me that I haven't supported you. I name drop your constitution all the time hoping someone will finally say, "Hey that's right! Maybe we should work on this." Writing a constitution is a lot of work and I appreciate your efforts.
Edit: Besides, it's really hard to support someone who doesn't turn on their telegrams. This is a political game and communication is important in politics. I can't tell you the number of telegrams I tried to send you over the past year but didn't because of your mailbox preferences.
I have an idea for a cultural tradition. During our elections, I'm going to see if I can get some volunteers from The Wolf Clan to come over here and howl at the moon.
Gyuamno
I want to explain more about the WA-voting only policy. I was thinking about how we have a lot of R/D people here so I'm going to share a technique with you to help you guys out. All you need to do is vote in time to have your vote recorded by the poll. The best thing for some of you might be to vote five minutes before the poll ends and then move your WA back where it normally is.
I'll work with you guys on this. What I'll do is police the polls so that they are scheduled no closer than two hours away from the major and minor update times. This way poll closures don't coincide with R/D obligations.
I meant as for running for office. Not the constitution in this context. You havent. It's been well over a year since you voted for me. You are open for Forestavia and your other puppets. I blocked you because I'm tired of the regional mass telegrams from you. Forestavia is open. You can send me a telegram from that nation. Oak remains blocked from sending telegrams due to your instability.
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Also you've only been blocked for 8 months. Chill out.
You can justify it however you want. I'm totally chill. I'm chillin' like a villain. :P
Terran Flux
Yeah youre right about bear country
Terran Flux
What's the situation with Red Harbor?
Making us the legaslative branch and removing or judicial powers is a horrible thing to do, having the judiciary under the cobtrol of you and you alone is horrible.
And your time line needs to be cut down a lot.
You were the one who said we shoulsnt be forced to join the wa.
Also, a wa based citizenship system is garbage.
Malcholm
It is essential to our regions survival.
Terran Flux
I think we're going to need as much time to adjust as possible considering all the chaos. I like a little chaos sometimes. It's good with a dash of salt. But there's been so much lately that we need some time to freshen up the palate.
Parakka Northland
Would you care to be more specific?
You're not forced. You are free to choose to be part of it or not. But every decision that you freely choose to make has consequences. If you can't bring your WA here for 5 minutes to vote before a poll closes then that's too bad.
Parakka Northland
Your emergency constitution is lawful, so you take over the branch governing laws.
You then make us a 'legaslative' branch yet we have no power to legislate, if we did your changes would be un done.
Shouldnt have to.
We'll get into legislating laws later on. I don't want to do too much at once.
I really can't justify keeping Red Harbor unless I have a reason.
Parakka Northland
It's an enemy puppet region with a password for crying out loud! How does it play into our survival? If it's classified send me a telegram.
It is not going to be a stronk embassy for long...
Parakka Northland
Forest what have you done???
You just overthrew the government when we were trying to fix it.
"trying to fix it"?
Let's face it. Things were getting worse not better. So I'm back. I'm going to provide a firm, solid, stable, stronk foundation for us to get started with. We really need some sort of reset. The power struggles were tearing the region apart.
Gyuamno, Parakka Northland
I agree the power struggles were a problem but terran has had less than 3 days to even try reform.
Terran Flux
Im fine with it
Oakplumington
I've noticed that anytime someone tries reform there's always obstruction and push back. My fear is that if I don't step in now, the Mystical Council will cease to exist as a unified region.
Gyuamno, Parakka Northland
Its already fairly dis-unified, but at this point Im desperate. I will go along with your reform, and I have no problem with you but you did take my boi Terran Flux out so I am mildly annoyed at you for the moment
Terran Flux
We're going to get through this. Terran's still up there holding the power of the Delegacy. Keep endorsing him. I'm going to go through some of my old factbooks over the next few days and get things in position for us to govern.
Terran Flux
But Terran has lost almost all his power, he only has coms and has no say in the interim government. But that is in the past I guess, lets try it your way and see what happens
Terran Flux
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