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Region: The Mystical Council

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Alistia wrote:What happened?

Nothing, just some personal stuff that came up suddenly.

It's dealt with now

Untoreragarekinae wrote:Nothing, just some personal stuff that came up suddenly.

It's dealt with now

Oh cool glad youe back

Do we have a faction for the nuclear thing?

Untoreragarekinae wrote:Do we have a faction for the nuclear thing?

We do. But how do I find it?

Illfated wrote:We do. But how do I find it?

https://www.nationstates.net/page=faction/fid=96

Untoreragarekinae wrote:Do we have a faction for the nuclear thing?

https://www.nationstates.net/page=faction/fid=96

Untoreragarekinae wrote:Do we have a faction for the nuclear thing?

We are joining The Liberty Coalition .

Northern Forestavia

Alistia wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=faction/fid=96https://www.nationstates.net/page=faction/fid=96

I thought we are joining the one [nation=short]new bacon[/nation] made called mystical powers

Exotic Lemon wrote:I thought we are joining the one [nation=short]new bacon[/nation] made called mystical powers

I literally sent out a region wide tg 23 hours ago about what we were gonna be doing so.

Terran Flux

Alistia wrote:I literally sent out a region wide tg 23 hours ago about what we were gonna be doing so.

Oh I ignored that.

Exotic Lemon wrote:Oh I ignored that.

Haha

Classic lemon

Gyuamno, Alistia, Exotic Lemon

I nominate [nation=short]barishmacht[/nation]

Illfated wrote:We are joining The Liberty Coalition .

Good luck with that. Two of my nations were completely nuked within two hours. It's like a suicide mission over there. You gotta go in guns blazing knowing you're not coming out alive.

Northern Forestavia wrote:Good luck with that. Two of my nations were completely nuked within two hours. It's like a suicide mission over there. You gotta go in guns blazing knowing you're not coming out alive.

We did decent. We destroyed the internationale, but the black hawka destroyed us after

Forestavia

Alistia wrote:We did decent. We destroyed the internationale, but the black hawka destroyed us after

I'm still fighting! Fire! 129 Launches at Union of Soviet Republics Protector.

Alistia

He he.. he never had a chance.. took him from 0% to destroyed. I figured they would shoot down a few but nope...

Alistia

The Immortal Elysium wrote:Are y'all dead?

im dead inside

I shall rain hellfire onto those who challenge me and my truxolian cheesy nips!

Gyuamno

I landed 247 nukes destroying 2 people.. But i'll be dead soon.. my radar shows incoming nukes and I seem to have drawn the ire of Uppercut... ;-(

Alistia, Terran Flux

Illfated wrote:I landed 247 nukes destroying 2 people.. But i'll be dead soon.. my radar shows incoming nukes and I seem to have drawn the ire of Uppercut... ;-(

I don't like Uppercut

We had a non-aggression pact with them and still got attacked.

Alistia, Terran Flux, Parakka Northland

Alistia wrote:I nominate [nation=short]barishmacht[/nation]

wait wut for

Gyuamno, Terran Flux

Alistia wrote:I nominate [nation=short]barishmacht[/nation]

He literally just got elected for domestic affairs soooo unless you want to redo that whole poll... 🙄

Terran Flux, Exotic Lemon

Barishmacht wrote:wait wut for

prime minister. Dude you just got elected to domestic

Gyuamno, Terran Flux

Gyuamno wrote:He literally just got elected for domestic affairs soooo unless you want to redo that whole poll... 🙄

That's irrelevant. This is election month. So there will be election for all the ministries anyway.

[nation=short]barishmacht[/nation], [nation=short]Parakka_Northland[/nation].

You've been nominated to run for PM. Please state if you accept your nominations.

[nation=short]Terran Flux[/nation] is also confirmed running.

Terran Flux

Mugwop wrote:[nation=short]barishmacht[/nation], [nation=short]Parakka_Northland[/nation].

You've been nominated to run for PM. Please state if you accept your nominations.

[nation=short]Terran Flux[/nation] is also confirmed running.

parakka already confirmed I believe

Parakka Northland

Mugwop wrote:That's irrelevant. This is election month. So there will be election for all the ministries anyway.

yeah its election month... barishmacht already won one of the elections... sooo why is he even an option for prime minister

Terran Flux, Parakka Northland

Gyuamno wrote:yeah its election month... barishmacht already won one of the elections... sooo why is he even an option for prime minister

you even vouched on his expertise of all the roleplays he's done that you like so much. alistia broke the tie by picking barishmacht

https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=98697

Alistia, Terran Flux, Parakka Northland

Election month?

Alright, I'm elected God Emperor King and Gyuamno is my running mate.

Terran Flux

Gyuamno wrote:you even vouched on his expertise of all the roleplays he's done that you like so much. alistia broke the tie by picking barishmacht

https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=98697

Yes, but the cycle resets now, and that election was not part of this cycle. That being said, it was a recent election, so we might pass it over this cycle.

I think we should leave that matter for [nation=short]Forestavia[/nation] to decide, since election polls are his responsibility.

This is of course all assuming that Bar decides not to run for PM, or runs for PM and loses. If he does become PM then we must have a culture minister election no matter what.

Alistia, Terran Flux, Parakka Northland

Mugwop wrote:[nation=short]barishmacht[/nation], [nation=short]Parakka_Northland[/nation].

You've been nominated to run for PM. Please state if you accept your nominations.

[nation=short]Terran Flux[/nation] is also confirmed running.

I'll run

Exotic Lemon

The Immortal Elysium wrote:I don't like Uppercut

We had a non-aggression pact with them and still got attacked.

When did we have a pact????

Mugwop wrote:Yes, but the cycle resets now, and that election was not part of this cycle. That being said, it was a recent election, so we might pass it over this cycle.

I think we should leave that matter for [nation=short]Forestavia[/nation] to decide, since election polls are his responsibility.

This is of course all assuming that Bar decides not to run for PM, or runs for PM and loses. If he does become PM then we must have a culture minister election no matter what.

He is nominated so he will be in the election pill

Alistia wrote:When did we have a pact????

Not us we, the faction I was in.

Alistia wrote:He is nominated so he will be in the election pill

Alright, but if he refuses to run before the election (tomorrow) then he can't be forced into it.

[nation=short]barishmacht[/nation] what is your say on this?

Alistia, Terran Flux, Parakka Northland

I'm asking that all delegates vote against "Commend August".. Those jerks upset my delicate sensibilities during N-day.

Forestavia, Alistia, Terran Flux, Exotic Lemon

Here it is everyone!!!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=878345

Forestavia, Malcholm, Terran Flux, Exotic Lemon, Untoreragarekinae

New Bacon wrote:Here it is everyone!!!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=878345

[nation=short]viva_italia[/nation]

New Bacon wrote:Here it is everyone!!!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=878345

A very good decision in my opinion.

Forestavia, New Bacon, Truxol

Viva Italia wrote:A very good decision in my opinion.

There are still a number of unanswered questions regarding the future of the region that the JB needs to be clear about.

Truxol, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon

Mugwop wrote:There are still a number of unanswered questions regarding the future of the region that the JB needs to be clear about.

Anyone know if [nation=short]barishmacht[/nation] is running for prime minister?

Truxol

New Bacon wrote:Here it is everyone!!!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=878345

Mugwop wrote:There are still a number of unanswered questions regarding the future of the region that the JB needs to be clear about.

I find myself in agreement with [nation=short]mugwop[/nation] here in that it's great to say found a new region but who should do that? How would it be decided upon as to who would do it?

It would have been good or still would be if the Lunar Council (judical council) could provide a frame work as to how those questions above should be dealt with.

Truxol

Mugwop wrote:There are still a number of unanswered questions regarding the future of the region that the JB needs to be clear about.

Telegram Myself [nation=short]terran_flux[/nation] and [nation=short]malcholm[/nation] and we will sort this out.

Truxol, Parakka Northland

Parakka Northland wrote:I find myself in agreement with [nation=short]mugwop[/nation] here in that it's great to say found a new region but who should do that? How would it be decided upon as to who would do it?

It would have been good or still would be if the Lunar Council (judical council) could provide a frame work as to how those questions above should be dealt with.

I can't change the docket until I coordinate with the other judges as to who will find a new region if Forest is non-compliant. The sentence IS official though. Forest must restore oak.

Truxol, Parakka Northland

New Bacon wrote:I can't change the docket until I coordinate with the other judges as to who will find a new region if Forest is non-compliant. The sentence IS official though. Forest must restore oak.

That's fair enough though I suspect Forest won't comply

Forestavia, Truxol

New Bacon wrote:Here it is everyone!!!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=878345

Sounds good!

Truxol

Exotic Lemon wrote:Anyone know if [nation=short]barishmacht[/nation] is running for prime minister?

He didnt go against it so his name will be in the poll

Truxol, Untoreragarekinae

I also disagree with the courts decision, mainly on forestavia logging into oak every 59 days.

Oak should be handed to someone else, like me or bacon

New Bacon, Illfated, Truxol, Untoreragarekinae

Alistia wrote:He didnt go against it so his name will be in the poll

He said yes put it in in the discord.

But we don't need his conformation to put it in, all nominated persons are put in the poll unless they explicitly say no.

New Bacon, Truxol, Parakka Northland, Untoreragarekinae

Alistia wrote:I also disagree with the courts decision, mainly on forestavia logging into oak every 59 days.

Oak should be handed to someone else, like me or bacon

If [nation=short]forestavia[/nation] ever chose to hand over the founding nation im sure he would select someone suitable to carry on the ideals of the region he founded. That being said Forest has said no to this suggestion in the past and I can understand why on some level.

Truxol

Alistia wrote:I also disagree with the courts decision, mainly on forestavia logging into oak every 59 days.

Oak should be handed to someone else, like me or bacon

The judges did not specify a time so that's why it is once every 59 days legally.

Truxol

Parakka Northland wrote:If [nation=short]forestavia[/nation] ever chose to hand over the founding nation im sure he would select someone suitable to carry on the ideals of the region he founded. That being said Forest has said no to this suggestion in the past and I can understand why on some level.

I did not put in the docket to hand over the nation because forest will refuse.

Forestavia, Truxol, Parakka Northland

Alistia wrote:I also disagree with the courts decision, mainly on forestavia logging into oak every 59 days.

Oak should be handed to someone else, like me or bacon

Forest restoring Oak is unlikely. Forest handing over Oak is outright impossible.

New Bacon wrote:Telegram Myself [nation=short]terran_flux[/nation] and [nation=short]malcholm[/nation] and we will sort this out.

All my commentary on that matter can be found here https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=27047809

Forestavia, Malcholm, Truxol

Founding a new seems like a waste though, I mean our region is rich with history, its old, and we have the 'moderate' power rating, which took years to get.

Parakka Northland wrote:If [nation=short]forestavia[/nation] ever chose to hand over the founding nation im sure he would select someone suitable to carry on the ideals of the region he founded. That being said Forest has said no to this suggestion in the past and I can understand why on some level.

I understand why he wouldn't want to either, but having an active member of the community control oak is better then having the original creator sit on his but doing nothing with oakplumington not even currently existing.

Truxol

Helloo this region sounds sufficiently spooki. . .I'm Zefyrion

Forestavia, Malcholm

If you would like to join the 501st legion, please tg me.

Everything you need to know is here: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=alistia/detail=factbook/id=878751

Forestavia, Malcholm, Truxol, Zefyrion

Zefyrion wrote:Helloo this region sounds sufficiently spooki. . .I'm Zefyrion

Hello, welcome to the mystical council!

Truxol

Alistia wrote:If you would like to join the 501st legion, please tg me.

Everything you need to know is here: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=alistia/detail=factbook/id=878751

sounds cool how do I join

Truxol

Zefyrion wrote:Helloo this region sounds sufficiently spooki. . .I'm Zefyrion

Welcome!

Truxol

Zefyrion wrote:sounds cool how do I join

Just tell me.

Truxol

Alistia wrote:Just tell me.

sign me up scotty!

Forestavia, Alistia, Truxol

I would like to join!

My divekicks will be an effective help!

Forestavia, Alistia, Truxol, Zefyrion

Mugwop wrote:Forest restoring Oak is unlikely. Forest handing over Oak is outright impossible.

All my commentary on that matter can be found here https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=27047809

Ok thank you

Truxol

Mugwop wrote:Yes, but the cycle resets now, and that election was not part of this cycle. That being said, it was a recent election, so we might pass it over this cycle.

I think we should leave that matter for [nation=short]Forestavia[/nation] to decide, since election polls are his responsibility.

This is of course all assuming that Bar decides not to run for PM, or runs for PM and loses. If he does become PM then we must have a culture minister election no matter what.

Yes. I will be trying to do that soon. I think. Um. Man I have been busy. I have really dropped the ball with this Domestic Minister thing, though. I would like to issue a public apology to our Prime Minister and to the region as a whole. I thought when I ran for the position that I would be more active but apparently not. But nonetheless! I will try to get on soonish. Maybe in a couple days. If not someone feel free to jump in and give me a hand.

Alistia, Truxol, Parakka Northland

New Bacon wrote:Here it is everyone!!!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=878345

It's genius! :)

Truxol, Parakka Northland

New Bacon wrote:I can't change the docket until I coordinate with the other judges as to who will find a new region if Forest is non-compliant. The sentence IS official though. Forest must restore oak.

Oh, I intend on being non-compliant of course. Anyone who doesn't like it can leave for Solar Alliance or The Greater Holy Isles or some other region. I run my own nations the way I wish. Always have always will. But the word "can" in the ruling is very telling. For every "can" there is also a "may not" lurking nearby.

Even if there is an attempt to split from the region, TMC will continue to stand strong(ish).

Gyuamno, Parakka Northland

Zefyrion wrote:Helloo this region sounds sufficiently spooki. . .I'm Zefyrion

Welcome! I am the ever-controversial founder. I hope you enjoy your time here. :)

Malcholm

Forestavia wrote:Oh, I intend on being non-compliant of course. Anyone who doesn't like it can leave for Solar Alliance or The Greater Holy Isles or some other region. I run my own nations the way I wish. Always have always will. But the word "can" in the ruling is very telling. For every "can" there is also a "may not" lurking nearby.

Even if there is an attempt to split from the region, TMC will continue to stand strong(ish).

The docket clearly states that all border officials will close the region.

Truxol

New Bacon wrote:The docket clearly states that all border officials will close the region.

Then you will force me to restore Oak in order to protect the region.

Malcholm, Truxol

Forestavia wrote:Then you will force me to restore Oak in order to protect the region.

Then why not just restore Oak and protect the region from actual attackers? Explain this to us all.

Truxol

Forestavia wrote:Oh, I intend on being non-compliant of course. Anyone who doesn't like it can leave for Solar Alliance or The Greater Holy Isles or some other region. I run my own nations the way I wish. Always have always will. But the word "can" in the ruling is very telling. For every "can" there is also a "may not" lurking nearby.

Even if there is an attempt to split from the region, TMC will continue to stand strong(ish).

And this isn't good practice. If a court ordered you to do something in real life and you didn't do it, you'd go to jail. But of course this is an online political game. Bad practice on your part.

Truxol, Exotic Lemon

Mugwop wrote:Then why not just restore Oak and protect the region from actual attackers? Explain this to us all.

There is no need to act until there is a need to act.

Forestavia wrote:Then you will force me to restore Oak in order to protect the region.

You do that but you'll be in deeper trouble than you think.

New Bacon wrote:And this isn't good practice. If a court ordered you to do something in real life and you didn't do it, you'd go to jail. But of course this is an online political game. Bad practice on your part.

Strategic practice, Bacon. Strategic practice. I want the region to be strong against attacks. A little exposure to the elements never hurt anyone.

Post self-deleted by New Bacon.

Forestavia wrote:Then you will force me to restore Oak in order to protect the region.

You better think twice before restoring oak to circumvent court orders. I can send a telegram out asking everyone to leave the region without your permission if you choose to override border officials or regional officers.

Forestavia wrote:Strategic practice, Bacon. Strategic practice. I want the region to be strong against attacks. A little exposure to the elements never hurt anyone.

Don't care. I'm telling what will happen in real life. Not what you want to hear. I'm all about telling facts.

Forestavia wrote:There is no need to act until there is a need to act.

You did not nothing when Gyuamno attacked. So far your record on acting when needing to act is untrue, and when we eventually get attacked again, you will probably just sit back and laugh at it once more. So I don't think we're buying what you say.

There's a lot of methods of strengthening the region, this method however does the exact opposite. It is literally leading us to a path of fracturing the region. What exactly is going on in your head?

Alistia, New Bacon, Untoreragarekinae

New Bacon wrote:You better think twice before restoring oak to circumvent court orders. I can send a telegram out asking everyone to leave the region without your permission if you choose to override border officials or regional officers.

This is classic. The court is ordering me to restore Oak against my wishes in violation of the rights of nations. But if I don't, the Lunar Council has threatened to refound the region. If I then restore oak, in order to save the region from refound, I will then be [I]circumventing the court decision[/I]? Even though the court gets what it wanted in the first place???? What? Did I miss something here?

Parakka Northland

Forestavia wrote:Then you will force me to restore Oak in order to protect the region.

And the decision wasn't up to you. It was a court decision. [nation=short]malcholm[/nation], [nation=short]terran_flux[/nation] and I all agreed that if you were non compliant the region will close by border officials. If you want to run a dictatorship, you are on your own.

Alistia, Truxol

Forestavia wrote:This is classic. The court is ordering me to restore Oak against my wishes in violation of the rights of nations. But if I don't, the Lunar Council has threatened to refound the region. If I then restore oak, in order to save the region from refound, I will then be [I]circumventing the court decision[/I]? Even though the court gets what it wanted in the first place???? What? Did I miss something here?

Yes if you override regional officials.

Mugwop wrote:What exactly is going on in your head?

Electric activity amongst the brain cells.

Malcholm, Truxol, Exotic Lemon

New Bacon wrote:Yes if you override regional officials.

Don't abuse your power to keep the region from closing bud or refounded. No joke.

New Bacon wrote:Don't abuse your power to keep the region from closing bud or refounded. No joke.

Keeping the region from being refounded has been my main mission in this region since 2014. I intend to keep that tradition. No joke.

Forestavia wrote:Keeping the region from being refounded has been my main mission in this region since 2014. I intend to keep that tradition. No joke.

Goodnite forest. Restore or refound your choice. Your not dictating a court decision. You can dictate yourself.

Alistia

Forestavia wrote:Keeping the region from being refounded has been my main mission in this region since 2014. I intend to keep that tradition. No joke.

If we choose to establish a new region, I don't think we will literally refound TMC. A new region for our exodus would be best made with a new region and a new name .You can stay here by yourself.

You have lead us to a pointless path of fracture and destruction. I have expected much better things from you.

You disappoint us all.

Alistia, New Bacon

Forestavia wrote:Keeping the region from being refounded has been my main mission in this region since 2014. I intend to keep that tradition. No joke.

Oh yeah it won't be named TMC you can forget that. That's your name and you keep it.

Alistia

Mugwop wrote:If we choose to establish a new region, I don't think we will literally refound TMC. A new region for our exodus would be best made with a new region and a new name .You can stay here by yourself.

You have lead us to a pointless path of fracture and destruction. I have expected much better things from you.

You disappoint us all.

You are free - you have always been free - to establish your own regions and to come and go as you wish. But this place is a sacred space. There will always be freedom here.

If there is to be a split, then I will reset the region under the 2015/2016 system with the five-member Lunar Council.

Gyuamno, Malcholm

Actually, I might not reset it right away. Might see what fills the power vacuum. Someone else might come along with a better system.

New Bacon wrote:Oh yeah it won't be named TMC you can forget that. That's your name and you keep it.

Maybe you could name it TCM for Turner Classic Movies.

Forestavia wrote:You are free - you have always been free - to establish your own regions and to come and go as you wish. But this place is a sacred space. There will always be freedom here.

If there is to be a split, then I will reset the region under the 2015/2016 system with the five-member Lunar Council.

If you want that system back, then refound oak and try to pass it through.

Forestavia wrote:Strategic practice, Bacon. Strategic practice. I want the region to be strong against attacks. A little exposure to the elements never hurt anyone.

We've been exposed, its time to return to normalcy.

All of your long natives agree you need to restore oak Forest.

Malcholm, Truxol, Exotic Lemon

Alistia wrote:If you want that system back, then refound oak and try to pass it through.

We've been exposed, its time to return to normalcy.

All of your long natives agree you need to restore oak Forest.

The long natives, short natives, and any in between natives will have to get used to the new normal. Look, I don't even use that nation anyway. The last time I logged into it was nearly five months ago. It's useless. Oak's old and tired and needs a long rest. Maybe he'll come back for the zombies...

Forestavia wrote:The long natives, short natives, and any in between natives will have to get used to the new normal. Look, I don't even use that nation anyway. The last time I logged into it was nearly five months ago. It's useless. Oak's old and tired and needs a long rest. Maybe he'll come back for the zombies...

Its not about you though.

Its not useless, it keeps the region secure. From raiders, and internal fret (like what's going on right now)

Its had its rest. You should restore it, or give it to someone else for the betterment of the region.

If you going against the best interests of the region is the new normal, then the region will eventually be passcoded and closed, or refounded, or taken by raiders.

Alistia wrote:Its not about you though.

Its not useless, it keeps the region secure. From raiders, and internal fret (like what's going on right now)

Its had its rest. You should restore it, or give it to someone else for the betterment of the region.

If you going against the best interests of the region is the new normal, then the region will eventually be passcoded and closed, or refounded, or taken by raiders.

If we stand firm with our influence policies, a refound will never happen. But only if we stand firm. Without unity the region will suffer a major loss of influence which is what raiders would need for a refound.

Civilisunio

Forestavia wrote:If we stand firm with our influence policies, a refound will never happen. But only if we stand firm. Without unity the region will suffer a major loss of influence which is what raiders would need for a refound.

Yeet. Guess who has returned for s bit of the tmc action?

Forestavia

Forestavia wrote:If we stand firm with our influence policies, a refound will never happen. But only if we stand firm. Without unity the region will suffer a major loss of influence which is what raiders would need for a refound.

I meant US doing a Refound.

Me, Bacon, etc have more then enough influence to do a refound at update.

All this turmoil just because you refuse to let this region have a founder.

The Judicary wants it.

The citizens of TMC wants it.

Everyone but you wants it.

You say you care about the region and its freedom, yet you deny the region and its people the freedom of having a founder.

Civilisunio wrote:Yeet. Guess who has returned for s bit of the tmc action?

Welcome back. The controversy never stops. How are you?

Forestavia wrote:Welcome back. The controversy never stops. How are you?

What will you if forestavia gets banned?

Truxol

Forestavia wrote:Welcome back. The controversy never stops. How are you?

Same as always lately, Busy and Tired. How about you?

Alistia wrote:I meant US doing a Refound.

Me, Bacon, etc have more then enough influence to do a refound at update.

All this turmoil just because you refuse to let this region have a founder.

The Judicary wants it.

The citizens of TMC wants it.

Everyone but you wants it.

You say you care about the region and its freedom, yet you deny the region and its people the freedom of having a founder.

And yet, we've been invaded zero times since oak ceased to exist. There was one failed attempt by the Black Hawks.

And what about my freedom, huh?

Truxol

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