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Region: The Mystical Council
IGNORANCE IS VERY BLISS PEOPLE!
Firstguy1, Malcholm, Frankiestine, Parakka Northland
Post by Frankiestine suppressed by New Bacon.
Yeah O_O
Firstguy1, New Bacon
Geez, I get off to take my first final and a troll rolls in with the tide 😂 thanks for handling it [nation=short]new_bacon[/nation]. Any chance we can report them?
Firstguy1, New Bacon, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Parakka Northland
Yeah think I should request mod intervention.
Firstguy1, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Parakka Northland
Firstguy1, stop spamming your own region (or any other for that matter) with puppets. Continue and you will lose your nation. You have been warned.
New Bacon, Everloyal, Parakka Northland
[nation=firstguy1] if you do this again you will be ejected from the region. You got caught. I'm glad the mods said something. Quit playing!
Malcholm
Thanks for all your help
Forestavia, Malcholm
Both consequences can occur either ejection or DOS. [nation=short]firstguy1[/nation] quit while your ahead.
Kek
Talk about starting unnecessary drama lol
Sorry couldn't help it
New Bacon
You know that I like to support freedom of speech, but you and I and everyone else knows that this guy has nothing to contribute in the future but spam, so why allow him and his puppets to stay at all?
Man it was just a prank I won't do it again
Forestavia, New Bacon, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Guys, I have talking with Exotic Lemon a little bit today and I think we all should just go ahead and stay where we are at. I do not to hurt what relations we have and/or cause any rift in your regions. But I do want to say "thank you" for at least considering the offer. May your regions be blessed.
Sincerely
Alpha Wolf
Forestavia, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Welcome back [nation=short]Firstguy1[/nation]. I hope that the warning you received directly from the moderators themselves will be enough to prevent vulgar spamming in the future.
Generally, we're pretty chill in this region. We try to take everything with a grain of salt and even try to find humor in posts like yours above. A little vulgarity here and there is ok if it's PG13. A little spam here and there can be funny, too. But we don't like the drama that ensues when you combine the two together in the way that you have, especially when it effects the NationStates experience of other nations or becomes bothersome for the rest of the region. There are certain lines that shouldn't be crossed.
If this happens again I will take the issue to the Lunar Council since they are responsible for justice in the region.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Thank you for taking time out of your day to deal with this. We appreciate your help. Have a good rest of the day. If you moderators ever need a place to hang out sometime feel free to come here. We're open to all nations even the mods! We've still got a bottle of unopened Alistian rum around here somewhere. :)
New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Parakka Northland
I understand where you're coming from there. Just about all of us have had the experience of pulling a prank (either here or in our real lives) only to find ourselves in the hot seat later. It stinks because in your mind you think it might be the funniest thing in the world but it all depends on your audience, mood, and timing. Sorry you have to be in the hot seat today. I think we've all been there at one time or another in our lives and it stinks.
I say to the region. Firstguy's been warned. Can we all move on from this and give our region mate some good old-fashioned forgiveness? It was a prank gone bad - nothing more.
Firstguy1, New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Thanks for understanding
New Bacon, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
I wouldn't consider banning Firstguy1 from the region. But like Forestavia said he has been warned.
Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Well Firstguy, people learn from their mistakes don't they? *coughs*
New Bacon
Yeah because you totally didn't know that it was me.
New Bacon
O_o
I am assuming that "Mothafackinfagot" and "Firstguy1" and "Frankiestine" are all puppets of the same person. That being said, chatting with your own self from different puppets is considered spam by site rules.
Malcholm, Plugo, Parakka Northland
I declare voter fraud!
Frankistine and Vaspassia only come on when their is a poll, so i assume one of them is a puppet, and firstguy1 is obviously a puppet too.
Order Of Hospitallers
i am also suspicious of x1245, the nation was just refounded and moved without a word said, but still voting in the poll so obviously already knowing the regions politics.
Order Of Hospitallers
rigging the poll BS
"-~- I sure hope not, considering all those votes were placed for me. I will, however, say this: our region works on a honor code; those who violate that sort of mutual trust are--in my personal opinion--the scum of the earth. We can't function when the basic structures of our region are so easily corrupted. If you cast your vote with more than one nation, I ask that you take a brazen effort to make amends to the region, and withdraw your excess. It violates the very nature of the poll to cast more than one vote on your behalf unless specified otherwise.
[nation=short]plugo[/nation], I'd like to commend you for being on your toes on the matter. What you pointed out had slipped right past me, and I wouldn't have noticed had you not said something about it.
Plugo, Parakka Northland
The best defense in this matter would be for [nation=short]vaspassia[/nation], [nation=short]frankiestine[/nation] and [nation=short]X1245[/nation] to join the World Assembly for 24-48 hours. If any of them actually turn out to be the same player, they'll promptly have their nations kicked or temp-banned from the WA. If none of them turn out to be the same player, then I'd say the matter is resolved.
New Bacon, Plugo, Parakka Northland
Also, [nation=short]new_bacon[/nation], it's an honor to have been made the Secretary Delegate. I'm certain I'll be above and beyond capable of serving the region to the best of my abilities.
New Bacon, Plugo, Parakka Northland
Yeah I can say that those nations are not me they are a different person because me and New Bacon know the person who signed up as Frankstine
Malcholm
And no this is not a puppet as I created this country over 2 years ago.
Malcholm
Can't say I or most will believe that, but know that the next time you have conversations with this "other person" there's a good chance someone will report you again for spam. The mods can tell of course, and if they do come back yet again and it turns out that these puppets you are talking with are yourself, there's a good chance they will just delete you and your pups. So you better watch out and not spam.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Plugo
K but I can assure you that Frankstine is a legit nation
New Bacon, Malcholm
Vaspassia is a different person as well as Frankiestine. Vaspassia currently is on r/ d roleplay and Frankiestine is just here. Not sure about x1245 though.
Malcholm
Im on R/D Roleplay i am a different person.
New Bacon, Malcholm
Me as well! I mean you guys cant just assume that we are puppetts of Firstguy1. Were in the WA. Firstguy1 warned us.
Malcholm
Hey btw I'm Firstguy1 I just wanted to start anew not from the modz warning me but my stats as a nation sucked.
New Bacon, Malcholm
But yeah I did tell them that it was me it was just a prank and nothing more, I wasn't being serious when I was spamming but yeah that was that and it won't happen again I'll be serious from now on
New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
i didnt say YOU were, i just said that firstguy was but their was SOME suspicion you were.
Hey on a serious note I have a strategy game called making history two where it is a simulated map of the world during world war 2 and I was wondering of you guys might be interested if I make a mod where the map is simulated according to the region map and I can make enemies of the mystical council and stuff like that.
Frankiestine
Making History: The Great War? or Making History: The Calm And The Storm?
The second I think it's called war of the worlds
Frankiestine
Since y'all are going to make assumptions I'm leaving the region. My puppet nation is in the WA in another region and I'm not joining the WA over assumptions of me being a puppet of this Firstguy nation that I don't even know.
Malcholm
ALRIGHT ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. CAN WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?! FIRSTGUY1, FRANKIESTINE, AND VASPASSIA THATS ENOUGH.
Malcholm, Frankiestine, Plugo
That's great!!! ;)
Malcholm, Frankiestine
I'd rather take precautions than make vapid assumptions and get in fights over it like I've seen happen before in other regions. IMO, it's easier to get straight to the point. Showing that you've got a WA nation here or somewhere else would prove beyond any doubt that you are who you say you are. I apologise for the immediate suspicion, but we take our elections very seriously, and we need to make certain that we maintain the integrity of our polling system.
Forestavia, New Bacon, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Frankiestine, Plugo
X1245 it's simple all you had to do was bring your WA nation over here. There were suspicions. The other two nations that were mentioned joined the WA so they are good to go.
Hey guys bringing a puppet into the region called fezchio, I won't do anything stupid with this nation just bringing it in nor will it ever participate in polls
Malcholm, Frankiestine
[nation=short]rrepaimziaraseh[/nation] I'm not trying to limit your speech it's just that there is unnecessary content that needs to be censored.
Going to the region of Chaos Brigade for a bit
Malcholm
Needs to be censored according to you, not everyone else. And notice I am not unsuppressing just my posts. There should be no need to censor anything that is not spam.
New Bacon, Malcholm
I just want to see what it is since it raided a few regions.
I'm not up for foolishness however.
You even suppressed Plugo's post in which he brings a serious issue of voter fraud. How nonsensical of you.
Frankiestine
The one that's should be suppressed is the ones with the fa**ot names in it
Even at that the one that I suppress this time should not be unsuppressed
Post self-deleted by Rrepaimziaraseh.
Look New Bacon, know that you might have some sort of funny suppression game with Hospitallers, but not with me and the rest of the region. I don't think the rest of the region is up to, in your own words, such "foolishness however." So you can't just go around suppressing people left and right just because you don't want to see their posts. If it's blatant spam, then of course, otherwise give us all the courtesy of first discussing it.
Arguing on the RMB can cause that stress mark to hit an all time high. That's why it needs to stop on the RMB. If y'all are mad about something please feel free to telegram that person or telegram me. I'm trying to solve everyone's problem the best I can. Yes there have been some past altercations in this region before. Even myself I have to do better in some of the things that I do. Arguing doesn't get anybody anywhere in life and it makes things very difficult. How does one expect to get something done if one is ranting about the same thing over and over again? It is not worth it and some things you just have to let go. The reason for this mass suppression is that I don't want anybody reminded of what happened earlier. All of us just needs to start fresh and breath in and breath out and ask God for forgiveness and hope for the best and that none of this mess ever happens again. The problem has been solved and it's ok. You can't be mad at other players for their mistakes. Everybody makes mistakes and even myself. Some things you just have to let go. I don't lash out on people for their mistakes. If there is a problem I would telegram that specific nation. So all of us just need to start fresh and shake everything off and forget about what has happened in the past.
Post self-deleted by New Bacon.
Post self-deleted by New Bacon.
Um I'm just as serious I'm not laughing nor is it a game with you. I don't play games with others unless they desire to. Telegram me if you need to discuss something with me. Thank you and I ask for your cooperation.
All is fine mate, just stop suppressing posts. And suppressing something doesn't just erase it, in fact it makes it more obvious, and people who didn't know about what happened, will look into this and say "oh, why was this suppressed? Let me take a look" and pay it EXTRA attention. Do you see how that's counter-productive? Best way to move is actually to just leave the posts be.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Frankiestine
You know I guess I see your point I suppose
Malcholm, Frankiestine
And now we have effectively covered up all that had happened with our own conversation. Good job 👍👍👍
Malcholm, Frankiestine
I wasn't really being hostile at all, just investigating.
i don't care about suppression if it is related an argument, but.
Malcholm, Frankiestine
So who likes the idea of me creating a mystical council mod for making history war of the world's where each country on the council Map is in the mod map.
Forestavia, Malcholm, Frankiestine
I think it's an awesome idea! I'd probably get the game just to play the mod. A year or so ago I started making a Civ V mod for the nations in The Greater Holy Isles so we could play as ourselves, but it unfortunately never came to fruition because I didn't devote enough time to it—its currently just sitting there, conceptualized but very incomplete.
Forestavia, Frankiestine, Fezchia
I don't like what I've just read on the RMB. I'm going to take some time to think about how to prevent suspicions and wild accusations in the future.
For the time being I'm using my executive emergency authority to suspend the Intelligence Agency. We will have a military (if it passes) but no intelligence division.
I will be also incorporating a Voter Authenticity Amendment to the constitution. You will be allowed to have as many puppets here as you wish. But every puppet will have to be registered with the Judge of Elections. Every nation who votes in the polls will have to share their WA nation with the Judge of Elections. Give me a couple weeks to implement these changes.
For now, we will continue with the honor code for the rest of this election.
Malcholm, Order Of Hospitallers, Parakka Northland
[nation=short]Everloyal[/nation],
I'm putting you in charge for Judge of Elections for the time being.
I'll help you put together a list that looks something like this.
Player 1. [nation=short]Forestavia[/nation] = [nation=short]Oakplumington[/nation]
Player 2. [nation=short]Malcholm[/nation] = [nation=short]Knoblauch[/nation]
Player 3. [nation=short]New Bacon[/nation]
Player 4. [nation=short]Everloyal[/nation]
Player 5. [nation=short]Plugo[/nation]
What we're going to do is create a database for this region's nations. The object of this exercise is to just figure out who's who. This is database is just the first step. The amendment that I mentioned in my previous post will outline a procedure for verifying WA status for a "group" of nations, where a "group of nations" is equal to one player. It will be tedious. Do you think you're up to the task?
Malcholm, Parakka Northland
There will be quorum on the runoff election.
Frankiestine
A little unnecessary for the time being but I see your point. There could be 1000 nations in the Mystical Council and still can't figure out who is who. We cannot see the person on the other side. Either way quorum will be held next election. The problem has been solved for God's sake Forestavia! Both Frankiestine and Vaspassia joined the WA that should tell you something.
Frankiestine
And Forestavia, voting restrictions will be enforced.
Forestavia, Frankiestine, Order Of Hospitallers
Like I said enough is enough I'm just gonna impose strict quorum until further notice!
Yes. I think every nation will be required to send the Judge of Elections and both Presidents (as witnesses) the name of their WA nation. Plus we will have an organized database. I'll write something up soon. I need time to consider how things would play out and different scenarios.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Frankiestine
Ok good but the problem has been solved between Vaspassia, Frankiestine, and Firstguy1
Frankiestine
Very good. We will also prevent future problems as well.
Malcholm
Ok, the list is done.
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=forestavia/detail=factbook/id=639879
I am asking for everyone to voluntarily register their puppets. If you have two nations on this list that are not linked together by an equals sign please be honest and let us know. Once Everloyal and I get more organized this will turn into a requirement.
Malcholm
I have a puppet called fezchio but it is currently in another region right but might come back to mystical council later
Malcholm, Frankiestine
Ok. Thanks.
Frankiestine
Not every nation that isn't in the wa or even doesn't have a wa account is a puppet or anything.
Frankiestine
Not like you gotta worry bout it.
Check your phone BTW, i got the date and time for tommorow.
currently my wa is Plugo Anticom Laison
Malcholm
Hey guys do you want me to negotiate with chaos Brigade via my puppet in that region to build embassies with us?
possibly, i would wait a bit because the list is being cleaned soon.
Thanks, Plugo.
Malcholm
Ok I will wait until tommorow then or later if need be
Well goodnight everyone
This is true. Good point. I know this is may be a controversial issue for some of us. I didn't really want to have to start doing this but there are some regions that have similar policies. I believe that our region will benefit in the long run from the transparency that will result from this new policy. It will also make our community a stronger one and we will generate a higher level of trust for one another. This is the third time I've noticed concerns voiced over puppet voting in this region's history so I think it's time to do something about it. Down the road (if there is enough support for such a measure) there will be random audits where a small number of random nations will be chosen to reveal the current location of their WA nation at any given time but most likely just before an election.
For those nations that do not have a WA, well I guess we'll figure that one out as we go. It seems a little totalitarian to "require" these nations to either join the WA temporarily or to create a puppet for the same purpose. I'm not exactly sure what to do about that yet.
The founder (me), both Presidents, and the Judge of Elections will oversee this whole program. It will be my responsibility to keep the dispatch up-to-date and the other three will also keep me honest as well. The Presidents and Judge of Elections will be able to audit the work I'm doing. Bear with me as I work out the kinks in this new policy. I'm open to ideas also.
Malcholm
*Correction - "For those players that do not have a WA....."
New Bacon, Frankiestine
Yeah exactly [nation=short]order of hospitallers[/nation] it is not every nation. I think in my opinion the database is a little unnecessary.
Plugo
This action is very executive at this point. You have to look at others view point. You should probably put it to vote before you lose a whole bunch of nations which is not good. Right now I am against this. Some people will probably ignore the fact that if you ask them they may be bold enough not to tell you.
Forestavia, Frankiestine, Plugo
Emergency executive action at that fact by the founder.
Perhaps.... then again what other ways are there to prevent voter fraud? Do you have any alternatives?
The region is growing and I feel that the database could help all members of our region start from a place of trust instead of a place of suspicion. The last thing we want is for the voting members of our government to feel disenfranchised. Perhaps random audits only?
New Bacon, Malcholm, Frankiestine
This all started when Firstguy1 came back so I mean...
Frankiestine, Plugo
Random would be good. But you still would have no way of telling whether it is a puppet nation or not. I'm not saying not to move foward with it but what I am saying is that it might be a waste of time trying to figure out whether this nation is a puppet or not.
Frankiestine
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