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Apparently Frankiestine thinks I'm corrupt and trying to benefit myself when that is really not the case. Geez

Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron

Frankiestine wrote:

Take it easy on the personal jabs, buddy. We've got free speech and all but think before you write. We're here to have fun.

Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron

Hospitallers, you outdid yourself with the Anarcho Capitalism dispatch. Great work!

So far it looks like the AAA is going to pass with approval from the Lunar Council and the Delegate

Order of Hospitallers has approved

Malcholm, AU912, and Tumetu have approved (3/5)

Sentagon has 5 votes in favor so far.

Not one nation has voted against the law. This is a very good sign. If you have not voted yet I encourage you to participate.

Malcholm

Post self-deleted by Frankiestine.

Post self-deleted by Oakplumington.

Post self-deleted by Frankiestine.

Hey, you can even launch your own political party that believes in taking power away from government. Maybe it isn't New Bacon who has too little power. Maybe the Lunar Council have too much. It's all perspective. RP.

Post self-deleted by Frankiestine.

Frankiestine wrote:I pick neither

So what's your plan and motive?

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Post self-deleted by Oakplumington.

Post self-deleted by Frankiestine.

Frankiestine wrote:And how about not suppressing anymore posts curly. People can still view them

That post suppression was a warning not to harass my trusted government officials. I thought it was tactless and written to hurt our President's feelings. That's why I suppressed it. Perhaps you would be so kind as to delete your posts and rewrite them in a more respectful manner.

Order Of Hospitallers

Post self-deleted by Frankiestine.

FYI - There is no law restricting the use of polls as tools for filibuster. I personally think it was a brilliant political move. But that's just my opinion.

Malcholm

Post self-deleted by Frankiestine.

Oh my god [nation=frankiestine] you are rude. New Bacon is not that bad. [nation=Oakplumington] is he alright? And by the way don't talk to my best friend like that.

Order Of Hospitallers

I saw that he left the region

Order Of Hospitallers

Vaspassia wrote:I saw that he left the region

Yea i saw too but he went to some bootleg inactive one

Vaspassia

Vaspassia wrote:Oh my god [nation=frankiestine] you are rude. New Bacon is not that bad. [nation=Oakplumington] is he alright? And by the way don't talk to my best friend like that.

I think every will be ok in time. Frankiestine did the right thing by deleting his posts. Everything is over now.

Vaspassia, Order Of Hospitallers

Damn I missed the arguing on the bright side it was not caused by me... for once.

Vaspassia, Order Of Hospitallers

Now what was this all about?

Everloyal wrote:Now what was this all about?

A player just crossed a line but everything seems to be fixed now. We all have a bad day once in awhile.

Oakplumington wrote:A player just crossed a line but everything seems to be fixed now. We all have a bad day once in awhile.

I hope this does not continue. Anyways what is new today?

Oakplumington wrote:A player just crossed a line but everything seems to be fixed now. We all have a bad day once in awhile.

I'm in a bad mood right now and stressed out.

I would like to note that my vote against the Full Authority Act is due to the fact that it is regional law and not constitutional. I believe that the President of Sentagon needs rock solid authority written not in regional law format which can easily be repealed by two branches of government.

Our President in Sentagon deserves something stronger. I vote against this FAA with the intention and hope and desire of passing an amended version of section 13 in the constitution. Sentagon is autonomous and may set many of its own rules and policies within it. We cannot afford to have our Sentagon President's authority revoked by Sentagon itself or by two arbitrary branches of government. If we truly want both of our Presidents to have "equivalent" powers then both must be equally granted those powers by the constitution.

For this reason, I encourage a No vote.

Malcholm, Vaspassia, Order Of Hospitallers

The section that should have been added to the amendment was Border Control and Embassies

Vaspassia

Oakplumington wrote:I would like to note that my vote against the Full Authority Act is due to the fact that it is regional law and not constitutional. I believe that the President of Sentagon needs rock solid authority written not in regional law format which can easily be repealed by two branches of government.

Our President in Sentagon deserves something stronger. I vote against this FAA with the intention and hope and desire of passing an amended version of section 13 in the constitution. Sentagon is autonomous and may set many of its own rules and policies within it. We cannot afford to have our Sentagon President's authority revoked by Sentagon itself or by two arbitrary branches of government. If we truly want both of our Presidents to have "equivalent" powers then both must be equally granted those powers by the constitution.

For this reason, I encourage a No vote.

I will revise it then

Vaspassia

New Bacon wrote:I'm in a bad mood right now and stressed out.

I hope you feel better.

Vaspassia

What happened to the poll I could've sworn I just voted

New Bacon wrote:I'm in a bad mood right now and stressed out.

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=oakplumington/detail=factbook/id=546132

The 3 hour one is the best. I love it. I forgot about it until now. Maybe I'll listen to it before bed tonight.

Vaspassia

Or this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGrxHO-B2TY

Vaspassia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK-BSdq7WXo

Vaspassia

Everloyal wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK-BSdq7WXo

Whoops I meant to quote your post not suppress it. What happened to our votes on the poll?

Everloyal, I got your telegram. But I think we should talk about Malcholm's idea first. I like what we have but I really think this is interesting. It's more complex and it seems to give you more power. Instead of being some sort of figurehead General, this appears to be a way to make the military official and yet still preserves your control over it to some degree. Very fascinating.

Malcholm wrote:I think it'd be a good idea to add an opt-out for [nation=short]Everloyal[/nation]. As the leader of the Regional Guard, he should still have the authority to dictate how the guard conducts itself. I'd change the "2/3" part of Section 2 of the RDP to the 'simple majority' concept, and give Everloyal the ability to veto any of the assignments that come down from regional authorities. The members of the Regional Guard, however, should also be able to override Everloyal's veto with a 'simple majority' vote.

Everloyal and the members of the Regional Guard should also be able to propose assignments; something as simple as sending the region's name, update time, and participating members of the RG to the Delegate, Lunar Council President, and Sentagon President and getting 2/3 approval. It's need to be a little sneaky, but it would work. We could just put up a poll in Sentagon or Mystical Council with "Operation _____" as the name/ description and do it that way. It's entirely up in the air at this point.

[spoiler=Something that's probably controvertial]Yeah, it's buerocratic, but what's democracy without buerocracy? There sometimes is a necessity for the inefficiency of government. Things take time, especially when you have to vote. It's unfortunate, but for sure-fire efficiency, you need a benevolent dictatorship with majority support of its populace.[/spoiler]

Malcholm

I'm off for the night. Keep that relaxing music playing!

Malcholm

2weeks is way to long for a poll, even the world assembly could conduct a more efficient census then that!

New Bacon, Malcholm, Frankiestine

New news article tommorow.

New Bacon, Malcholm, Frankiestine

what is the theme of our region too?

New Bacon

[nation=short]Oakplumington[/nation] how many more votes do we need before this passes because I swear this will be up for two weeks or until I cancel the poll.

Malcholm

Order Of Hospitallers wrote:2weeks is way to long for a poll, even the world assembly could conduct a more efficient census then that!

Two weeks is plenty of time I'm giving everyone a chance. It is now or never because after this poll it will not be re-proposed by me again. Because if it were to fail again that means the people do not want the Sentagon president to have full authority. I could have rushed the poll setting it to twelve hours then no one would get a chance to vote. I know it is ridiculous to have it set for two weeks but right now it is. That is one of my political tactics that I pulled. Last time saying this its two weeks or until further notice. Thank everyone for their cooperation. #filibuster

Malcholm

New Bacon wrote:Two weeks is plenty of time I'm giving everyone a chance. It is now or never because after this poll it will not be re-proposed by me again. Because if it were to fail again that means the people do not want the Sentagon president to have full authority. I could have rushed the poll setting it to twelve hours then no one would get a chance to vote. I know it is ridiculous to have it set for two weeks but right now it is. That is one of my political tactics that I pulled. Last time saying this its two weeks or until further notice. Thank everyone for their cooperation. #filibuster

ill try and get everone in the ACP to vote but i still feel 2 weeks is poll hogging.

if it takes someone 2 weeks to get on nationstates then they shouldn't play it. 3 days should be the max.

but considering its 8-1 i dont think you will have to worry about it not passing.

New Bacon

New Bacon wrote:Two weeks is plenty of time I'm giving everyone a chance. It is now or never because after this poll it will not be re-proposed by me again. Because if it were to fail again that means the people do not want the Sentagon president to have full authority. I could have rushed the poll setting it to twelve hours then no one would get a chance to vote. I know it is ridiculous to have it set for two weeks but right now it is. That is one of my political tactics that I pulled. Last time saying this its two weeks or until further notice. Thank everyone for their cooperation. #filibuster

By the way sorry about what happened yesterday Bacon and Oakplumington. Hopefully you guys forgive me.

New Bacon, Oakplumington

Frankiestine wrote:By the way sorry about what happened yesterday Bacon and Oakplumington. Hopefully you guys forgive me.

I would like to say a word for them. See that it does not happen again

New Bacon

Frankiestine wrote:Hopefully you guys forgive me.

Never, we will forever hold a grudge against you.

Jk ;D

New Bacon

Frankiestine wrote:By the way sorry about what happened yesterday Bacon and Oakplumington. Hopefully you guys forgive me.

Apology accepted

Oakplumington

New Bacon wrote:[nation=short]Oakplumington[/nation] how many more votes do we need before this passes because I swear this will be up for two weeks or until I cancel the poll.

We could call it now if you want. We have two branches of support. The Delegate and three members of the Lunar Council.

Sentagon has 5 votes in support, 1 vote against, and 17 not voting or absent.

(In the future, once the constitution is actually adopted, the rules will be stricter for amendments. We would need a simple majority of Sentagon, too.)

New Bacon

How are you oak?

Everloyal wrote:How are you oak?

Oh Everloyal! I need to telegram you and Vedan something exciting!

Oakplumington wrote:Oh Everloyal! I need to telegram you and Vedan something exciting!

...when people post how they are going to TG someone about something on a public RMB I am just like whyyyyyyy?!

Order Of Hospitallers

Oakplumington wrote:Oh Everloyal! I need to telegram you and Vedan something exciting!

Ok make it snappy... never mind that I will be waiting for it.

I'm sorry, I got distracted with something else.

Ok I was joking about that snappy thing so take your time.

Oakplumington

Everloyal wrote:Ok I was joking about that snappy thing so take your time.

I'm like seriously trying to catch up with stuff and I keep forgetting to do things! There's always something new cooking. ;)

Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron wrote:...when people post how they are going to TG someone about something on a public RMB I am just like whyyyyyyy?!

That's a really good question. I think it was just that I wanted to get Everloyal's attention in that moment. Because with me. I'll post something, leave, and come back 5, 10, 30, 60 minutes later. But yeah, you have a point there.

Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron

RP:

The Forestavian High Council has declared Oakplumington's (its territory) banishment of the Lunar High Admiral unconstitutional. "It is the duty of the Lunar Council to take such action if it chooses to do so. The Lunar High Admiral shall inevitably face the wrath of the Lunar Council and when they do, the ban will more than likely be reinstated. It is not Forestavia's job to play judge and jury but to patiently await the justice that only the Lunar Council has the authority to exercise. This is why, starting immediately, the ban on the Lunar High Admiral will be no longer. We cannot allow our country to be in violation of regional law."

High Councillor Nobleton read from a parchment with the official seal on it. He hoped deep in his heart that the ban would be reinstated.

Malcholm

Post by Forestavia suppressed by Domos Pinca.

Forestavia

RP:

National Politics:

The Forestavian Socialist Party celebrated the decision. It was a victory for The Red Fleet.

Order Of Hospitallers

My regional government dispatch is way behind the times. I have a ton of Anarcho-Capitalists marked as "No Affiliation". I'll fix that real quick.

Oakplumington wrote:My regional government dispatch is way behind the times. I have a ton of Anarcho-Capitalists marked as "No Affiliation". I'll fix that real quick.

I am no longer Anarcho-Capitalist Party, I am creating my own

Oakplumington

My puppet [nation=short]West Castlemaine[/nation] will be replacing this one as a presence in the region.

Bye all!

Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron wrote:I am no longer Anarcho-Capitalist Party, I am creating my own

Awesome!

Oakplumington wrote:Awesome!

Yah I do not like when one party takes control especially when I do not agree with them.

Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron wrote:My puppet [nation=short]West Castlemaine[/nation] will be replacing this one as a presence in the region.

Bye all!

We'll have to amend the ANTICOM Alliance Act to give your new nation the powers.

What should we do? Should I slip the new nation name in there just before passage? Any objections to replacing the nation Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron with West Castlemaine in our proposed law?

Can I have a second on this motion?

Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

Oakplumington wrote:We'll have to amend the ANTICOM Alliance Act to give your new nation the powers.

What should we do? Should I slip the new nation name in there just before passage? Any objections to replacing the nation Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron with West Castlemaine in our proposed law?

Can I have a second on this motion?

I object.

I had to say I will second it for my own reasons.

Everloyal wrote:I object.

Everloyal wrote:I had to say I will second it for my own reasons.

*Squints*

Oakplumington wrote:*Squints*

I will second it.

Everloyal wrote:I will second it.

*Holds hand to ear*

What did you say? ;)

Oakplumington wrote:*Holds hand to ear*

What did you say? ;)

I will second it... hopefully to the benefit of the regional guard.

Malcholm, Oakplumington

Alright, I'll go ahead and revise it.

Malcholm

Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron wrote:I am no longer Anarcho-Capitalist Party, I am creating my own

whats it called?

President Beldan held a teleconference press announcement from an undisclosed location.

"I have just signed legislation restoring normal relations with Everloyal and all other nations of The Mystical Council. We will be providing humanitarian and reconstruction assistance to any nation that requests it.

The legislature is currently debating whether to formally request that The Mystical Council reopen the embassy with The Union.

The AU912 legislature also currently has the following legislation pending that will also impact our relations with The Mystical Council:

- Whether to formally request that the Lunar Council try The Lunar High Admiral immediately.

- Whether to start our own political party within The Mystical Council."

Malcholm, Oakplumington

Order Of Hospitallers wrote:whats it called?

The Free Toad Party! :)

Post by Forestavia suppressed by Domos Pinca.

Forestavia

RP:

"I propose we do section 32 after this poll is done. It's been too long!" This was the only thing he said on the floor of Sentagon. Then he went back to his office. Sentagon Representative Brick Potato didn't have his coffee yet and was very cranky. He read the paper and saw that the Consulate was pushing for justice on [nation=short]The Lunar High Admiral[/nation]. "Excellent, bring the darn good-for-nuthin' fleeters to justice," he muttered to himself. He was particularly annoyed that the filibuster was slowing things down but saw the value in it.

He sent a letter to New Bacon. The writing was a bit messy but showed determination. One of Potato's staff personally delivered it. It read:

"Mr. President,

You're really slowing things down, but at least Sentagon will be more powerful at the end of the day. Once we secure your rightful position in this regional government, we should get together sometime and discuss Sentagon procedure for electing a President. No one in Sentagon has yet challenged your position. We need protocols. We need Sentagon rules for how we conduct ourselves. Many different kinds of political parties are forming. Times are changing quickly.

Thank you for your time,

- Brick Potato"

Malcholm

Oakplumington wrote:We'll have to amend the ANTICOM Alliance Act to give your new nation the powers.

What should we do? Should I slip the new nation name in there just before passage? Any objections to replacing the nation Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron with West Castlemaine in our proposed law?

Can I have a second on this motion?

Or you can just recognise that I am the successor of Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron to this position.

West Castlemaine wrote:Or you can just recognise that I am the successor of Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron to this position.

All fixed.

http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=575091

"2. Nations will not be ejected or banned just for being affiliated with The Red Fleet."

What is they are participating in a raid?

Forestavia

West Castlemaine wrote:"2. Nations will not be ejected or banned just for being affiliated with The Red Fleet."

What is they are participating in a raid?

presumably raiders will run afoul of one (or more) of these:

[spoiler]

Forestavia wrote:6. The following tags will be required (no nation can remove them without amending this law): Democratic, Capitalist.
[/spoiler]

[spoiler]

Forestavia wrote:9. The following tags will be illegal (no nation may add these tags so long as this law is in effect): Fascist, Communist, Anti-Capitalist.
[/spoiler]

[spoiler]

Forestavia wrote:11. Any nation who initiates the closure of embassies with ANTICOM shall automatically lose embassy authority for three lunar cycles (unless deemed an accident).
[/spoiler]

[spoiler]

Forestavia wrote:12. The World Factbook Entry cannot celebrate any raid, invasion, or victory by The Red Fleet.
[/spoiler]

Forestavia, Malcholm

West Castlemaine wrote:"2. Nations will not be ejected or banned just for being affiliated with The Red Fleet."

What is they are participating in a raid?

I love this question! I'm looking for the perfect post to quote.

I finally found my old posts.

West Castlemaine wrote:"2. Nations will not be ejected or banned just for being affiliated with The Red Fleet."

What is they are participating in a raid?

1. Generally nations are not ejected or banned unless they themselves have ejected or banned someone else.

2. Or if there is a violation of site rules regarding respect among players or something like that.

Your question gets into the whole philosophy of raiding. Essentially the question that is being asked is: "Is raiding a bad thing?"

Here are some past opinions of mine:

Oakplumington wrote:....That's why I love it when we get raided. A raid symbolizes the ultimate abuse of power and usually wakes everybody up. What is the first thing residents ask when we get raided? "Should we do something about the raids? Should we ban the raiders?" The answer is both yes and no depending on what your beliefs are and where your loyalties lie and ultimately in how the regional government responds.

Oakplumington wrote:1. We don't have any established precedent or rules guiding R/D in this region [I]yet[/I] so ultimately every nation retains the right to invade or defend whoever they want without any consequences from the regional government here at this present time.

2. Now...hehehe, what I recommend is this:

Having embassies with another region usually indicates a formal relationship of some kind. I'm of the mindset that while individual nations hold the freedom to invade or defend any region they wish, it's preferable and more honorable to defend embassy regions and/or to invade regions who do not have embassies with The Mystical Council. But this is just my opinion and is not regional policy. Again no law has been passed really addressing R/D.

3. There will always be people in any region who are completely against raiding, then there will be those completely against defending, then there will be the people who just want to live in peace and not have to worry about any R/D activity at all.

This will be an ongoing discussion that this region will continue to have from time to time. I think it's also important to point out that raids generate activity and can be helpful in preventing regions from becoming stagnant. This is really the realm of political parties. I think that the political parties that are developing should have this discussion within their leadership, too. Pro/Anti-Raiding, Pro/Anti-Defending, Pro/anti either/Neither etc.

I like to play both sides of the fence. While I'm pro-raiding OOC, the RP character Brick Potato would probably have a heart attack if another raid ever happened. And in the RP he's very anti-Red Fleet. That's another angle. So in-character I'm anti-raiding.

Malcholm

West Castlemaine wrote:"2. Nations will not be ejected or banned just for being affiliated with The Red Fleet."

What is they are participating in a raid?

Also, there is the judicial valve of the Lunar Council which is preparing to act in the case of The Lunar High Admiral from the last raid.

We have an interesting approach to the issue in this region. And maybe we are getting to that point where we need a law at the regional level just laying out OOC and IC scenarios that can happen and what the consequences should generally be for certain infractions against regional laws.

Post by Au912 Mystical Council Consulate suppressed by Domos Pinca.

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

Welcome to the AU912 Capital City News Hour. I'm Fleia Mausolos.

Today, the AU912 legislature tabled the debate over The Union after failing to come to a consensus. Discussion is expected to continue tomorrow.

The legislature also overwhelmingly passed proposals to formally support replacing the nation Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron with West Castlemaine in the Anticom Alliance Act wording, as well as a request an expedited trial for The Lunar High Admiral. Both proposals had been supported by President Beldan, who is expected to sign them into law before noon local time tomorrow.

A bill to create a new political party was also debated. According to Senator Edward Uranus III, the proposed party would be a breakaway faction of the Anarco-Capitalist party tentatively to be called the "Minarchist Party" and would oppose "both fascism and state socialism" and favor "most smallish to almost nonexistant government systems, and legalization of almost all forms of private ownership, consensual relationships, and private organizations."

Forestavia, Malcholm

Fascism Vector wrote:boom

Sounds like they broke the sound barrier again.

RP:

"Oh my! The Lunar High Admiral has daringly reentered regional territory!" Potato went into cardiac arrest and was taken to the nearest hospital.

A new Forestavian representative was appointed by the High Council to serve in Sentagon. He wrote a letter to The Lunar High Admiral:

"I admire your courage to stand and face the Lunar Council. They may take your nation's cooperation into consideration at the trial. My country's official position is that they 'hope no mercy is shown'."

The letter was short and to the point. With a signature -

"Mr. Lenin Sandgars"

But there was something written really small at the bottom. "P.S. Just between us, we in the Forestavian socialist party do not agree with your crimes. But the vision of a Lunar Soviet inspires many of us."

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When Potato learned that Lenin was serving in his place, he had another heart attack. "He'll sell us down the river! Forestavia will be made to look sympathetic to flippin' fleeter -"

Doctors surrounded the bed and revived him once more.

Malcholm, Trebisond

If anyone is in need of farming supplys we have a open market

Lets just hold a trial for their crimes regarding punishment, i think all officers should act as the judges

http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=our_governator_1456594017

The world needs this.

Forestavia

President Beldan took the stand.

"I have asked my nation's Attorney General to study the case against The Lunar High Admiral as summarized by The Outpost Of Oakplumington.

It is our understanding that The Lunar High Admiral stands trial for the following alleged unconstitutional offenses:

- The ejection and banning of two native nations, New England Bastards and Forestavia.

- The banning of five nations native to embassy regions of The Mystical Council.

- The removal of all administrative authority for the entire Lunar Council.

In addition, we note that, immediately following these actions, The Lunar High Admiral also:

- appointed offices who themselves stand accused of unconstitutionally and grossly abusing their authority.

- attempted to replace the entire constitution of The Mystical Council with a new constitution without consent of the founder or natives.

Our understanding is that The Lunar High Admiral is not on trial for these last two actions, only the first three, but it is also our belief that these additional acts provide evidence of intent."

Forestavia

Give your opinion on the situation with the_lunar_high_admiral and it will most likely be put in todays paper!

just telegram us.

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate wrote:President Beldan took the stand.

"I have asked my nation's Attorney General to study the case against The Lunar High Admiral as summarized by The Outpost Of Oakplumington.

It is our understanding that The Lunar High Admiral stands trial for the following alleged unconstitutional offenses:

- The ejection and banning of two native nations, New England Bastards and Forestavia.

- The banning of five nations native to embassy regions of The Mystical Council.

- The removal of all administrative authority for the entire Lunar Council.

In addition, we note that, immediately following these actions, The Lunar High Admiral also:

- appointed offices who themselves stand accused of unconstitutionally and grossly abusing their authority.

- attempted to replace the entire constitution of The Mystical Council with a new constitution without consent of the founder or natives.

Our understanding is that The Lunar High Admiral is not on trial for these last two actions, only the first three, but it is also our belief that these additional acts provide evidence of intent."

He was a raider, banned done.

So much bureaucracy... lol

Forestavia, Malcholm

Order Of Hospitallers wrote:Give your opinion on the situation with the_lunar_high_admiral and it will most likely be put in todays paper!

just telegram us.

He was also just a TRF puppet. Just ban him and get it over with, damn it. (You can quote me on that ;))

West Castlemaine wrote:He was a raider, banned done.

So much bureaucracy... lol

When the government has to jump through hoops, you have liberty.

When individual nations have to jump through hoops, you have tyranny.

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, West Castlemaine

Order Of Hospitallers wrote:http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=our_governator_1456594017

The world needs this.

The author is the delegate of one of our embassy regions.

This poll already has the majority.

Total members = 29

Members supporting bill= 15

Members against bill = 1

Members abstained from bill= 13

even if all the abstainers voted no, yes would still have the majority

Forestavia, Order Of Hospitallers

Btw, I love the name of newspaper and the motto, it's bloody amazing!

Oakplumington, Order Of Hospitallers

I'm just copying the votes here as a public government record. I think New Bacon's going to delete the poll soon. The amendment passed for sure. We will move on to section 32 - attempt #2 (finally) after this. We really need to get section 32 out of the way so our Delegate can have a way to appoint cabinet members. (Please, no new polls people.)

Yes: Netherfar (2), New Bacon (2), Malcholm (LC), Oakplumington (1), AU912 Mystical Council Consulate (LC), Vaspassia (LC), Inca Tribals (1), Trebisond (1), Everloyal (1), Tumetu-iin Noyan (LC), Communista Doctrine (1), Order of Hospitallers (D), Fascism Vector (1), Lunar Apoclypse (1), and Anarcho Capitalist Party (1).

No: Frankiestine (1).

The amendment has passed with approval from two branches of government. This is good enough for a working constitution. (Please note, when the constitution is actually official the rules for passing amendments will be more stringent.)

I will make the appropriate changes in the constitution.

Sentagon (worth 25 votes) [LACKING SUPPORT]: 12 votes in support (48%), 1 vote against (4%), 12 votes absent (48%)

(I think we're going to have to do something about absent voting in Sentagon in the future. Inactivity shouldn't be the thing that kills legislation, in my opinion. We may have to get rid of the simple majority requirement. The larger the region gets, the harder it will be for Sentagon to pass laws. I'm thinking of something along the lines of just majority of voting members. For example, in this case 12-1 would obviously pass Sentagon. This is a another conversation for another time.)

Lunar Council [PASSED]: 4/5 support, 80%

The Delegate [APPROVED]: Approved by Hospitallers

New Bacon, Malcholm

After section 32, we should deal with this:

Section 10

10. Constitutional amendments or alterations must be passed by at least six-tenths of Sentagon, by at least three-fifths of the Lunar Council, and with the approval of the Delegate.

Replace with

10. Constitutional amendments or alterations must be passed by at least six-tenths of active Sentagon members, by at least three-fifths of the Lunar Council, and with the approval of the Delegate.

New Bacon, Malcholm

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