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Region: The Mystical Council
Regardless, Plugo exhibited the exact behavior, and I doubt he too has uncle and cat problems. And if he has other problems, well we all did.
The point is, I am happy talking through telegrams, but you guys seem to ignore me, I kept trying to tell you that we should behave as if the issue is the issue itself, but you kept acting like I was attacking you. My offer of us being pals is still open, but I think you will always treat me as your enemy, so I am hopeless for you or Plugo to have equal respect for me.
Well I don't think there's anything left to say here or there. We will just carry on with the temporary solution.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Post self-deleted by New Bacon.
Alright cool. I'm going to sign off for the day, everyone. Try... not to...blow up the region too badly. Be nice to each other, love each other, be sincere... you know.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
If you would go to us with telegrams in the first place their wouldn't be any problem.
If you had just telegrammed us about red harbor insted of constantly closing the embassy's and causing a big rmb fuss..
We rarely communicate, and if i was busy irl the only time you tried to communicate well boo hoo.
You are a political enemy, but i do have a tiny bit of hope that will change, all you have to do is tg us instead of ranting on the rmb to everyone else who isn't involved.
I'm gonna go get some G's be back in 5 hours if anyone will be on.
Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
So yea.
Rrep just tg us if you have a problem insted of ranting on the rmb, thats my main problem with you.
Tbh i don't think plugo has any beef with you at all but ok.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Post self-deleted by New Bacon.
Yeah i dont, have no clue where that assumption is coming from, i anwsered his only telegram in a timely fashion
I will send you the same telegram I sent him.
to all of you:
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/glee/images/4/4b/Santanaget.gif/revision/latest?cb=20150214141158
FYI, all: Au912 is not me.
Malcholm
Alright, I have officially exercised my right now that the earlier poll is done. I have done my best to ensure the poll is unbiased; however, I also would like the input of New Bacon to ensure he approves of it.
That qualifies as impersonation, which is very much against NS laws, and you very much have the right to report this person.
Malcholm
I was getting ready for bed but saw this at the last minute.
Chef is correct. It's your call AU912. Whatever decision you make has my support.
Malcholm
Im not impersonating him.
I never said i was him.
add the ability to abstain in this vote
Rondaland
I will telegram you and AU912. We can have a three-way conversation about this.
Malcholm, Au912
This poll is open to everybody?
Didn't you just want the poll to be for sentagon?
No let's have everyone vote on it. If I'm making such a poll, I want it to be inclusive of all our people, including Plugo and Hospitallers who disagree with me.
Malcholm, Rondaland
i feel like the poll is worded so it favors your side but whatever.
true
While your here, I'm wondering if I can informally nickname you "A new 12" as a quick way to differentiate you from the real AU912?
I'm off for the night. I should be back on tomorrow evening.
Malcholm
I don't know, that's why I want New Bacon to take a look at it, and he can have me reword however he wants.
While now I respect the reason behind why some people might choose to have that, I personally don't want to have it. It's either this or that, and while I encourage everyone to participate in the vote, if people want to abstain, then just don't vote.
But again, I very much recommend people to pick a decision and help us understand the true perspective of the region. So don't be apathetic folks. Voice yourselves.
I've said this at least three times!!
I WANT THE POLL. I AM ALSO A PART OF SENTAGON!!
It's like people just skip my posts.
Forestavia
It's okay friend, the poll has now arrived and we will settle this now in a civil manner.
Malcholm
[nation=short]forestavia[/nation], your motto: "Potato Power!" Explain it. What is Potato Power all about?
Malcholm, Oakplumington
Maybe I can provide a little context?
Oakplumington
So many nations coming in and going out today.. it's crazy!
75 posts! umm i think ill pass on reading everyone haha
Forestavia i have created a draft of Regional Etiquette Act (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=parakka_northland/detail=factbook/id=653997) please take a look and let me know what you think.
Forestavia, Malcholm
Yes: Regional officers should not be able to leave the region because they have an obligation to their duties.
No: Regional officers should have the ability to exit the region temporarily anytime they wish.
Oakplumington
[nation=short]Rrepaimziaraseh[/nation] my input is that I support the poll, but I also want to let you know that maybe we can create some law that will allow any regional officers to create a puppet so that way they can do outside operations.
Malcholm
[nation=short]AU912[/nation] you're vote is discarded!
Au912
Post by New Bacon suppressed by Rondaland.
[nation=short]AU912[/nation] I need the following to happen, this is the only way to prove that you are genuine.
*What is your main nation?
*Is your main nation in the World Assembly?
*If none of your nations are in the World Assembly, then I need you to temporarily join the World Assembly for at least the next 36 hours. Primarily the AU912 nation needs to join.
Failure to give this info could lead to an executive-action ban/ejection from founder or delegate and prior to NS law, this is impersonating a current nation!
I am 100% for the puppet solution.
That is why I worded the poll to say "Should the members of our regional government, keep their appointed nations" (i.e: the nation that has been given office powers) [B]Other nations belonging to that individual[/B], should not be restricted in moving according to the yes vote.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Parakka Northland
Post by Au912 suppressed by Oakplumington.
No its not, im am not impersonating anyone you idiot.
definition of impersonating - an act of pretending to be another person for the purpose of entertainment or fraud.
Post self-deleted by New Bacon.
You are. Don't pretend otherwise.
BUT
We are willing to work with you because we are a nice region. So you will not insult anyone for the rest of your time in this region. Is that clear? You are on thin ice. We are willing to work with you but if you want to start trouble, New Bacon, AU912, and Rondaland will not hesitate to ban you from the region for good. This argument is over.
New Bacon, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Post by New Bacon suppressed by Rondaland.
You actually have until regional update time(Next 12hrs) to let me know by telegram. How do I suppose to know if you're genuine or not. I understand that nobody's going to give you any information on military operations. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS JOIN THE WA FOR 36 HRS AND YOU'RE CLEAR! OOOR, LET US KNOW OF YOUR MAIN NATION! You have not done so. You do not realize that there's already another AU912 in the region which is the lunar council president. I am granting [nation=short]malcholm[/nation] border control temporarily. If you are creating puppets just to insult someone, that's not going to hunt.
Malcholm, Parakka Northland
I am adding the ability to eject or ban nations to the Founder section of the proposed constitution under emergency powers.
New Bacon, Parakka Northland
Section 30g has been added. The job of writing a constitution is never done.
*sighs*
New Bacon, Malcholm, Parakka Northland
He's speaking his mind. Quick! Grab the duct tape! We have ways to keep you from talking..... :P
Malcholm, Parakka Northland, Au912
I am willing to work with Au912 for the moment because Au912 has admitted to not being me and therefore is not challenging my identity directly.
However, you are still creating some confusion in the region, and so I feel you owe us some sort of explanation or evidence of good faith. I can't help feeling that you may be doing it for entertainment - your own.
I've worked hard to create the identity and backstory of my nation and its role in The Mystical Council.
New Bacon, Oakplumington, Parakka Northland, Rondaland
Post self-deleted by New Bacon.
This can be used for embassies as well as other types of Executive actions. I really hope that Amendment 8 brings clarity to the escalation process. Let me know if you have questions.
[spoiler=Amendment 8]Amendment 8. Executive actions taken by the Lunar Council may be vetoed by the Delegate. Executive actions taken by the Delegate may be nullified with at least three votes from the Lunar Council. If an executive action is either vetoed or nullified, Sentagon may choose to back one branch or the other - either upholding the executive action or reaffirming that the executive action was an abuse of power.
8a. Judicial rulings made by the Lunar Council are not Executive actions and can only be overturned by the Lunar Council itself at some future point in time.
[/spoiler]
Malcholm, Parakka Northland
Well they must reveal who their main is. Joining the WA doesn't tell us whom they are. They need to reveal their main, replace their nation here with their main or another nation that doesn't create confusion; otherwise we should boot this person.
New Bacon
What if it's the President of Sentagon that's issuing the executive order?
Oakplumington
That would be epic.
New Bacon, Malcholm
*Erases chalkboard*
New Bacon, Malcholm
*brains short circuits*
I'm going to think about that one for a few days. Be prepared for another revision of Amendment 8 accounting for Executive actions taken by Sentagon.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Rondaland
It looks like Amendment 6 might be a good candidate for repeal down the road.
New Bacon, Malcholm
This person is not per say impersonating au912 mystical, but it is confusing.
I say we all but out of this as it has nothing to do with us, let au912 mystical handle it with his own digression.
If someone named Rondoland came into the region, and they never said they were me or anything, i wouldn't care at all.
Forestavia, Malcholm
Post by Forestavia suppressed by Rondaland.
I really want to sign off but let's take this to telegram.
Post by Forestavia suppressed by Rondaland.
Stop. Let me start a telegram chain. I'm not putting up with this kind of arguing.
Malcholm, Au912
Post by Forestavia suppressed by Rondaland.
Because you keep bringing it up on the RMB. Last warning. Telegram.
Malcholm
As long as this person does not pretend or say he is anyway affiliated with au912 mystical, and au912 mystical doesn't mind, he is free to stay in sentagon.
I am issuing a Presidental Pardon to AU912 so that only Me and Au912 mystical council consultate can eject or ban him.
Forestavia, Malcholm
Ok. Cool. That sounds fair.
New Bacon, Au912
I think we need to have a parilamentary session for the first week of every month so that we can address all issues and concerns in an organized fashion.
Malcholm
Presidential Pardon!?
Is that even a thing?
Is it like where the sentagon president can give amnesty to any sentagon member?
Forestavia, Malcholm, Rondaland
I have no idea if it's a thing or not. But I have recorded it in the Executive Action dispatch at the Info Center. We are in uncharted territory here. I'm just going to go along with it for now. But it looks like Bacon's background check order has been nullified. For now. At least. Let's just roll with it. If we end up somewhere dangerous we'll backtrack and find another way to deal with similar situations in the future. But other912 is a member of Sentagon or will be within 30 or so hours now.
Malcholm
Thank you! :)
I will add it to the proposal dispatch.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Parakka Northland
I am signing off, now. Finally. If there is anything you need to get in touch with me about telegram me here at Forestavia.
Any military stuff should be sent to Western Forestavia.
Malcholm
I think that is a good idea.
I think that is not a good idea.
Sentagon memberships should be awarded to individuals who, as far as we know, are honest about who they are. In this case, it is obvious that this person is the hidden puppet of another individual, who for some reason decided to mimic one of our own. By granting them a Sentagon membership, we are awarding them rights that are reserved to honest members of our region. That is why this individual should not be part of the Sentagon, until he reveal who his main nation, and why he named his puppet nation after one of our own and moved her. Now considering their flag, it is safe to assume this person somehow relates to Anticom activities, but I cannot speculate further.
Parakka Northland
You know what! I'm not accepting any telegrams from anybody until Friday. If you try to send me a telegram it will be blocked. I'm not going to be stressed out over this nonsense.
Malcholm
I might need to send you stuff about Battle Star. Should I contact you from your other nation?
New Bacon
Yes
I won't put you on my ignore list how about that
If you have any concerns please address [nation=short]malcholm[/nation] no telegrams will be accepted from anyone until Friday.
Malcholm, Order Of Hospitallers
Hope you manage to cool off bud, and i can see why this situation has stressed you out.
There is a mystery here guys and i think its one that needs to be addressed
Malcholm
I will accepting the embassy from [B]Drakeforde[/B]. It is small and now inactive, but it is very new. The founder did reach out to me and asked to "establish the beginning of a beneficial inter-regional alliance". We will give them a month I propose, and if they remain inactive, we can remove them, but let's remain hopeful. Please contact me if any of you has concerns about this.
The poll is currently in favor of NO. The vote of AU912 currently does not count (who now has changed his flag to further mimic our own AU912 after I made this post https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=20004937) but one must also account for Plugo's vote as well, which brings us back to a vote of 7 - 5.
Further noting, we have recruited the following nations. I welcome you among us.
[nation=short]Monkeyshair[/nation]
[nation=short]Minol[/nation]
[nation=short]Homeless Power Ranger[/nation]
[nation=short]Magadonia[/nation]
Malcholm, Order Of Hospitallers, Parakka Northland
Could you please make a list of all the regions your accepting that have a month too grow?
so far its drakeforde and the cantia one.
Malcholm
AU912's vote doesn't count yet because of the 2 day sentagon rule.
1 more day.
Malcholm
*Sends in sentagon law enforcement to "keep the peace"*
Malcholm
no his vote doesnt count at all
mean bully :(
why does everyone here bully me :(
first plug with my dog now you :(
you are all so mean
what in the name of are you [nation=death by dogs]?
Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Rondaland
Sentagon law enforcement is now active.
*Releases gas into all of the mystical council to make everyone forget about all this stupidness and fall asleep*
Parakka Northland
i withdraw my presidental pardon.
Parakka Northland
Sure, I will keep a record of it.
Malcholm, Rondaland
*Sends law enforcement to chase [nation=short]rrepaimziaraseh[/nation]*
[nation=short]rondaland[/nation] i done figured out who it was it is Death By Dogs and please stop suppressing my posts. That was a serious question.
Rondaland
OOC -
just did an issue, this was an opyion.
look at the guys name
"What a load of sh-" starts Josh Sentagon, a controversial heavy metal singer, before being interrupted by the concert-goer elbowing her way past him with a desperate look on her face. "Look, if they don't like having to wait for the loo they can always bring their 'business' elsewhere. It's a free market. Nobody is forcing them folks to go there. One washroom for each gender. Fair is fair if fair is fair, am I right?"
i think we should have a concert!
New Bacon
I mean if he is, he is welcomed back as [nation=short]Death by dogs[/nation]. I think either Rondaland or Plugo said something that the dog guy thought was serious, but it was a joke. Also the dog guy did receive a recruitment telegram, so he isn't a puppet that was created with the intent of infiltrating us.
New Bacon, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Rondaland
[nation=short]AU912[/nation] all you had to really say was that you are [nation=short]death by dogs[/nation] no one knew it was you! I apologize for the actions taken place by me. Now that I Know it is you I guess I can lift my telegram ban on everyone. ;)
Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Anyone catch the England v. Iceland game? I want to see Iceland go on to win the entire thing. Just imagine if that happened XD
New Bacon, Rondaland
[nation=short]plugo[/nation] was only joking about the dog. He did not mean it like that.
Hey guys, just giving you a warning.
Tommorow in TMC their will be an epic fight for the holy land with midevil knight fights, pillaging and inquisitions.
You have been warned.
New Bacon, Malcholm
What does that mean? :[
BURN, HERETIC!
Malcholm
I have altered Amendment 8 (I had a flash of inspiration):
Amendment 8. Executive actions are a tool for the region's leadership to use when a fast decision is necessary. It would not be a good use of the region's time to require every single decision to go through two branches of government all the time. Executive actions are not regional law. To prevent abuse of power the following system will prevent undue or abusive executive actions from being made in the region.
a. The Lunar Council may take an executive action with at least three votes. The action may be nullified by the Delegate or by the President of Sentagon.
b. The Delegate may take an executive action. This action may be nullified by the President of Sentagon or by a simple majority of the Lunar Council.
c. The President of Sentagon may take an executive action. This action may be nullified by the Delegate or by a simple majority of the Lunar Council.
d. If there is ongoing conflict between the two or more branches in regard to a particular executive action, then the Delegate, the President of the Lunar Council, and the President of Sentagon will each vote. Two votes will yield a decision. If one of these three nations are inactive, then the second most senior member of the Lunar Council shall break the tie.
e. Judicial rulings made by the Lunar Council are not executive actions and can only be overturned by the Lunar Council itself at some future point in time.
I need some one to check this for flaws. I think it's pretty good.
New Bacon, Parakka Northland
i likely came up with that idea of executive orders :)
Malcholm, Parakka Northland
Night everyone! :)
New Bacon, Parakka Northland
ill continue to hold down the fort
Forestavia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland
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