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Region: The Mystical Council
He's not spamming. He's just-uh- Advocating for his cause. Yeah, that's it.
Yes, the Lunar Council has been part of our government for a long time, here. That is what I call stability.
Alistia, Malcholm
Back in my day, we would've put these whippersnappers in their place the moment they stopped out of line. Now they get time to "advocate their cause until 10pm?" Bah.
Alistia, Oakplumington, Terran Flux
True that.
That's right! We have more rights now than we had back then.
Then where's our right to protect our region from foreign entities? I want that one!
Alistia, Oakplumington
Uh, *stammers* we have every right to defend ourselves but we should also - take advantage of every opportunity to recruit people to our region. We need people. And - and raids are a great opportunity! -To develop foreign relations! With others.
I've always said raids are a good thing! See? Look how active the region is!
You may ban Gotesbourg. The resolution has, as of this moment, passed the Lunar Council with the Signature of the Delegate. Please have whoever is keeping records copy and paste that somewhere.
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January 21, 2018
Yea: Alistia (LC), Malcholm (Emperor), Terran Flux (LC), and The Immortal Elysium (LC).
Nay: Gyuamno (LC).
This resolution defines an "Associated Nation" as a nation-state that holds a form of common association with another, by means of direct dialogue, foreign affairs, or other means of interaction intended to foster goodwill between two entities. The Lunar Council hereby motions to banish Gotesbourg and all Associated Nations from The Mystical Council on grounds of an attempted coup d'etat of the Lunar Council. In accordance with this motion, the Lunar Council hereby declares Gotesbourg persona-non-grata pending approval of at least 3/5 of the Lunar Council. If all Councillors vote before the resolution of this poll, the poll is thereby to be closed, overruling Oakplumington's decree of immunity.
Result: Founder's Temporary Immunity Overruled. Banishment of Gotesbourg to be reinstated.
Alistia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland
Possibly in February on the full moon if the region wants one. The Lunar Council currently has a policy of no less than three members and no more than seven. So we could since we have five. But the general feeling that I was getting from the region was to shrink the Lunar Council down. I'd say try getting a resolution (to hold a Lunar Council election during the next full moon) through the council with a Delegate signature.
Malcholm
Post self-deleted by Gotesbourg.
Well expect me to run. We don't need to shrink the lc more, its already weak
Alistia, Malcholm
I've altered the Factbook entry where it said we owned by to operated by.
Gyuamno, Forestavia, Alistia, Malcholm
Hey Wolflandil! Welcome to TMC 😊 feel free to check out the factbooks pinned to the WFE at your leisure, all of them contain information pertinent to the region. Any of us in the WA can answer any questions you have about the region if you're not able to find something you're looking for in the factbooks. Also, don't forget to endorse me! 😋
Forestavia
Thank you for the welcoming.
Forestavia, Alistia, Malcholm
TMC had won the war!
Hail to glory!
Forestavia, Malcholm, Terran Flux
¡Viva las Islas Santas! 😉
Forestavia, Alistia, Terran Flux
Aha! So we are still under the dominion of the Holy Isles, eh?
*Sips hot cup of cocoa*
Malcholm, Terran Flux
There's no such thing as weakness, at least as far as The Mystical Council is concerned. Start your campaign from a place of strength. And POWER!
Reassure the people that TMC's greatest days are still ahead. Boost their confidence. Make sure your supporters are vocal about supporting you. Ask them to express it on the RMB. If you start now, then the resolution to expand the Lunar Council by a seat will pass because the regional government will feel the pressure from the people. You should write to the Emperor to see if he supports such a resolution. If not, get your supporters to join the WA. This will give you the means to strong arm the region into passing the resolution and thus you will expand democracy in the process.
That's my advice.
Exotic Lemon
Well in that case I hope to rally some people. I won't try to take the delegacy, but I do hope to expand democracy
Forestavia, Malcholm, Terran Flux
(Hello, everyone. I just joined this region and wanted to introduce myself. My nation has no humans, instead it has faeries, pixies, and sprites. I'm happy to have found this region, but I have to admit that I'm new very new to and inexperienced with RP. I was kind of hoping that any number of you might be able to help me with that in any way possible/at all. I'd fully understand if none of you can/will help, though. I'm glad I'm apart of this.)
Forestavia, Malcholm, The Newsstand
Read All About It! This week:
- The Force Flyer - will Force leave SCUT?
- More Euro Gazette
- The FCG Tribune returns
- And the scoop on the coup, from The Elparia Herald
Elsewhere:
- Visit the World Arts Fair
- And play 🔺Higher or Lower?🔻 at The Sands
Malcholm
We currently don't really have an rp, but welcome to the region
Alistia, Malcholm, Terran Flux
Welcome! Good to see another fantasy nation. It warms my heart. Not too much RP happens in TMC these days. I'd like to extend an invitation to Solar Alliance (which is simply the best region in all of NS for RP). Most of the region is modern tech, but Parakka and I have been dabbling in fantasy a little bit. New Wondour's ok with it, too here and there. I haven't been too disciplined with staying focused on my RP though. In fact, I haven't had much focus at all in NS for while now come to think of it.... *rambles some more*
So anyway, Solar Alliance is one of our biggest allies. The biggest ally is obviously The Greater Holy Isles since they apparently have taken over our region plus the natives seem ok with the occupation and all. Plus they control the almighty POTATO, that wonderful starch that holds so much POWER over us. I'm Oakplumington's main by the way.
I just noticed after typing all this that you left. Hopefully you return. Your destiny awaits you here. Outside the walls of our three regions you will find only death and destruction. Gloom and doom. Come back before it's too late, my friend. Would you like some celery?
Gyuamno, Alistia, Malcholm, Terran Flux, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon, Faewood
Hey everyone. The reason behind me leaving is a really long story, but I'm back now.
Malcholm, Oakplumington
Did someone say celery?
Malcholm, Oakplumington
New poll in The International Polling Zone!
Also, why don't the REGION tags show flags like the NATION tags do?
I have frequently said celery.
Welcome back!
Alistia, Malcholm, Oakplumington, Parakka Northland, Faewood
I would like to apologize for embassies closing. As soon as the raiders leave, please TG me, or a government official to make sure we reopen embassies with you. See soon!
Malcholm, Oakplumington, Terran Flux, Parakka Northland
Best of luck with the situation <3
Welcome back!! echoooo
Huh? Did anyone else hear that?
Oakplumington, Terran Flux, Faewood
yawn
Malcholm, Oakplumington, Terran Flux
[spoiler=NEW DEBATE/POLL FROM THE WORLDLY DEBATE REGION.]
This is week one of our three-part debate series on Globalization. There are three kinds of Globalization:
Political Globalization- the heightening of influence nations can have over the domestic policies of other nations, like the UN or NAFTA or NATO.
Social Globalization- the spreading of ideas, through literature and music and culture to other countries.
Economic Globalization- the spreading of goods, services, labor, and capital to other countries.
The line between them can be gray, but we're asking everyone to stay on the topic of specifically POLITICAL Globalization this week, so if you have any questions about distinctions, just let us know in the RMB and we'll answer them.
Don't forget to vote! And don't forget to bicker![/spoiler]
Malcholm, Oakplumington
Looks like somebody needs their rest.
Malcholm
it's a good thing 😉
Alistia
Malcholm
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Malcholm
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Now I'm hungry
stock market amirite
Forestavia, Malcholm
I was just listening to the radio and it sounds like it was a wild ride today. It'll go back up.
Here you go! Have some celery.
Malcholm
Well, my hard drive mucked up :(
On an new old laptop now
That stinks. Good luck with your computer troubles.
Malcholm
Thank you for establishing Embassies with the Fellowship. We are grateful.
Malcholm
I lost about 5% yesterday, let's see what today brings. Doesn't look too promising at the opening.
e: this is what happens when the Eagles win the Super Bowl /s
Malcholm
If you don't need the money for the next 5-10 years, then don't do anything. Just sit on it. If you're less than 50 years old, you're super safe. Don't let these little dips freak you out. That's the mistake people make. Sell high! Buy low! If the market tanks then that's an opportunity to buy stocks on sale! (If your budget allows you to, that is.)
Citizens in living in the [I]Unpredictable Volatility[/I] of Oakplumington never know what to expect in [I]their[/I] markets! ;)
Malcholm
Can you give me a list of embassies that you cover? I'm doing some foreign affairs/PR work. I'll do the ones you don't have time for. Thanks.
Konkreeden, according to >>this<< you have the strongest furniture restoration industry in the region. Could you hook Malcholm up with lower seating or some higher desks? Our Emperor is going to develop back problems. Haha!
Welcome to TMC! Good to have you. :)
Malcholm
[spoiler= Globalization Part 2:SOCIAL Globalization]This is week two of our three-part debate series on Globalization. this week we're debating Social Globalization. Social Globalization is the spreading of ideas, through literature,music, culture, etc to other countries.
Some view it positively, looking at the ever expanding array of books, music, and art as a good thing. Others view it negatively, viewing it a loss to one's national culture.
What do you think? Come to the Worldly Debate Region to vote and post to your heart's content. Good luck!
https://www.nationstates.net/region=worldly_debate_region[/spoiler]
Malcholm
Oh my. Not too much activity these days.... I might have to do something crazy.
Gyuamno, Parakka Northland
Hello
Malcholm
We come from the DAOSS and are undergoing are first steps of regional transportation!!!!
Forestavia, Malcholm
Welcome! I'm glad to see that at least you made it over 😁
Terran Flux
The world is never exciting enough for ol' Oaky.
Forestavia, Alistia, Terran Flux
[spoiler=After having been "at work" for the past 20 days,
Malch finally finds the time to sit down and contemplate the semantics and future of TMC's endorsement policy.]
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I agree. If our region's past doesn't do enough to prove that, then we could easily pick and choose other examples from around NS. The purpose of an endorsement cap is to offer protection to a delegate when they hold an unfavorable opinion or a member or members of the region feel driven to usurp the power and authority granted to that position, often with the intent to lay claim to it themselves. Take into account our region's history on that front; nearly every delegate we've had was at one point or another tossed aside when members of the region decided it was time for them to go--often not by fault of the delegate, but by a desire to stir the pot. While that can be an effective measure to push the delegate to remain as active, relate-able, relevant, and like-able as possible, it forces those traits as an undue burden on the delegate. No sane person is able to balance all those while maintaining a life outside of the game--though if they are, kudos to them. They're born for the position and should seriously consider applying that in other fields than an online politics sim. The point being here, an endorsement cap is like a security blanket. They're not necessary in regions where the delegate is able to remain perpetually active, and are often used by smaller regions as a means to offer a layer of job security to the position. Imagine if you were promoted to CEO of a large corporation due the merit you've displayed for the duration of your tenure at the company, only to be ousted a month later because that corporation's Board of Trustees decided you have a weird laugh. The next day, you see your placement on TV and notice they have a funny-looking nose. That's the sort of situations we run into with our current endorsement policy. The region has it's "Board of Trustees," and the minute you're out of line with their inflated expectations you've immediately lost any chance at redeeming yourself. Sure, you could argue that having an endorsement cap is "un-democratic" and it encourages "ostracization" by the greater regional community, but there's a plethora of examples wherein that's not the case. Even then, I'm not sure how enforcing the authority of the delegate is inherently un-democratic. Under our current laws, if you can call them that, yes, I can see it, but if we turn the delegate into an elected position then it only acts as that essential layer of job security. Take a look at [region=Spiritus]. I'm a part of that community, and I've never seen anything like that happening because the people at the top recognize that behavior like that is inherently bad for the community.
Let's also take a direct look at that text you sprawled out in bold:
I'd like to take up a a few issues with you and pose some questions:
1. The people have the right to decide whether to have a WA here in the region or not. How do you plan to justify instances in the last few months where you blatantly abused this policy and forced Lunar Councillors to have their World Assembly memberships in-region in order to vote? In addition to being busy with R/D, my moral objection to this was, in part, cause for my resignation from the council after serving it for so long.
2. The people have the right to decide who to endorse at any given moment.
And the people collectively have the right to decide who represents them in the capacity of the delegate position.
I don't fundamentally disagree with this. My argument is that there are better, more effective methods of handling representation to the World Assembly, and by association, the greater NS World. Endorsement caps don't stop people from throwing around their endorsements all willy-nilly. What it does is require a nation to monitor how many endorsements they have so they don't accidentally usurp the authority an elected delegate. All it takes for a nation to keep that in check is telegram nations endorsing them to make sure they aren't going to push the envelope or momentarily resigning their WA to clear them. The way that mechanic works is it clears the people endorsing you, but you continue to hold your endorsements of other people.
3. If they are unhappy with the leadership all they have to do is change their endorsements and boom! New executive leadership!
Here's where the problem lies. This sort of attitude is a catalyst in regional discourse. It reinforces the idea that "you can't have too many cooks in the kitchen" and encourages people to oust a leader when they disagree instead of seeking to resolve the situation by communicating with each other. It's the exact mentality by which some third-world countries operate: if you disagree with the leader, just put your guy in charge and it'll fix everything. Another way of wording it: having such a lax endorsement policy encourages players to resolve to flipping the delegate in situations where enough players disagree to make a substantial and immediate difference, and stifles political discourse in favor of immediate gratification.
An endorsement cap doesn't stop people from revolting and usurping the delegate in instances where it actually needs to happen, it just pushes the line for making it happen. It's the exact same idea as a well-coordinated raid: an order is given in a chat interface where people are able to communicate directly and instantaneously, such as Discord, Skype, IRC, etc. and everyone has enough time to go and cross-endorse on a designated nation immediately before the region updates, often with no more than a 5-10s margin of error.
[I've got more to write, so give me a couple days to finish this before you fire back. I have to leave for work and have a slightly sporadic schedule this weekend 😛]
Alistia, Terran Flux, Lombardea
- Updates from The LCRUA Times
- Happy Birthday SCUT...
- ...as Force leaves
- Three Bears find a den that's just right
Play the 🍒🍓🍋🍍SLOTS🍈🍐 🍇🍑! It's a week of fruity fun at the Sands.
Malcholm
*Loads cannon.*
FIRE IN THE HOLE!
(It'll take me a few days to digest everything you said. There are a lot of good points there.)
Gyuamno, Malcholm
Valentine's Day is coming!
Forestavia, Malcholm
Valentine's day? The day after is the best day. Cheaper candy.
Forestavia, Malcholm, Exotic Lemon
Smart man
Wolflandil, Malcholm, Exotic Lemon
Post by Legandi Phicko suppressed by a moderator.
Wow, it's quiet. I wonder if some of us are trying to give up NationStates for Lent. Anyone observing Lent this year? I'm not doing anything specific yet.
Alistia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland
[spoiler= Globalization Part 3:ECONOMIC Globalization]This is the last week of our three-part debate series on Globalization. This week we're debating Economic Globalization. Economic Globalization is the spreading of goods/services, labour, and capital to other countries.
Some view it positively, seeing it as a war deterent. a way to lower prices, among other things. Others view it negatively, seeing it as becoming economically dependent on other countries, a detriment to the health of workers, among other things.
What do you think? Come to the Worldly Debate Region to vote and post to your heart's content. Good luck!
https://www.nationstates.net/region=worldly_debate_region[/spoiler]
Forestavia, Malcholm
Post by Legandi Phicko suppressed by a moderator.
Post by Legandi Phicko suppressed by a moderator.
Post self-deleted by Legandi Phicko.
You ok over there? Need a doctor? Why don't you tell The Mystical Council a little about yourself?
Gyuamno, Alistia, Malcholm, Terran Flux
Also please don't just quote stuff without saying anything
Alistia, Malcholm
Yeaaaah. We're kind, but don't take kindly to RMB spam 😛
Speaking of RMB, Oak is right. We've been pretty mute. I've been going in and out of work/school/ gaming for the last week. How's everyone else been?
I'd give up NS for less than Lent, so it's a good thing I don't observe it.
Edit: This weekend isn't any less busy for me, so whether I finish that post is still a toss-up.
Alistia, Terran Flux
Busy but good thanks. How’s everyone?
Legandi Phicko whatever you reply to this ^^ please make sure you don’t get yourself in trouble with the mods
Alistia, Malcholm, Terran Flux
Post by Legandi Phicko suppressed by a moderator.
I will be pursuing new interests elsewhere! I hope to remain close in contact and continue to foster great relations for the future!
Forestavia, Malcholm, Terran Flux
Post by Legandi Phicko suppressed by a moderator.
Yeah, hormones have that effect sometimes. It's normal. Just spend some time alone and come back to NS when you're ready.
So, why don't you tell us a little about yourself, hm? You haven't posted anything substantive yet! You're not making a good first impression.
Malcholm
Good luck, man! Make sure you come back for April Fools Day. I have a feeling something crazy is going to happen that day. ;)
Malcholm
Post by Legandi Phicko suppressed by a moderator.
I'm suspecting your just a troll, which isn't good. Care to say something describing your nation?
Malcholm
"
"Calling the answer now.
Post by Legandi Phicko suppressed by a moderator.
And your gone.
Forestavia, Malcholm, Terran Flux
Hasta luigi
Forestavia, Terran Flux
[B]Read All About It![/B] This Week:
- Updates from The Union Times
- Breakfast Courier with a second helping
- The first Driselbian Post
Read the Interregional Writing Contest entries
And play [URL=https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_sands#poll]Roulette [/URL] at The Sands
Malcholm
[spoiler]This week in Worldly Debate Region, we're debating foreign aid. This is a topic typically steeped in heavy support and mild dissent. Foreign aid will be broken into two parts: humanitarian aid (food, water, shelter, etc) and financial aid (funding to be used at the receiving governments discretion or for specific projects).
Should YOUR country help impoverished countries? Do these forms of aid BENEFIT the countries that receive them anyway? In the RMB, feel free to specify the conditions you would impose on countries receiving aid, different ways to help other countries, etc.
Let the bickering begin!
region=worldly_debate_region#poll[/spoiler]
Malcholm
I've been thinking about a really sweet deal I'd like to offer to you, Malcholm. I've been thinking about what you said.
MY OFFER:
I will hand over the judicial branch to the region as well as the entire constitution for reform and editing as the region would see fit.
IN EXCHANGE:
Three simple rules.
1. No endorsement caps.
2. No regional passwords.
And...
3. The government body known as the Lunar Council must continue to exist in some way, shape, or form and the members thereof must be appointed as regional officers.
So, what do you think about that basket of apples?
Alistia, Parakka Northland
Sorry I haven't been active lately.
Parakka Northland
[B]Read All About It![/B] This Week, get with the Times:
- The Rejected Times
- The Commonwealth Times
- The Union Times
This week’s [url=https://www.nationstates.net/region=worldly_debate_region#poll]Worldly Debate[/URL] is Foreign Aid.
And place your bets for [URL=https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_sands#poll]♠♥Sands Hold'em ♦♣[/URL]
Id support this, but i don't really trust your word, or that you wont make another false flag emergency when things don't go the way you like.
But, I like the sound of that.
Forestavia, Exotic Lemon
Don't worry about that. My state-of-emergency days are over. I'm too inactive for that anymore.
I still reserve the right to pardon anyone from the ban list I want at anytime if I feel they deserve another chance. And similarly I reserve the right to ban someone who's up to no good. But yeah, I'm so busy with my real life now I just can't do regional government anymore. That big old speech I gave saying goodbye to the region a few months ago is really where my heart's at. If I have time for NS at all I'd like to try to put it into RP.
How about this? I'll even go this far. I reserve the right to revoke a password or an endorsement cap but I may or may not let an endorsement cap be. I may or may not let a password stand. It depends. Just know that I'm the founder and as founder I don't like passwords or endorsement caps. So if the region institutes them it does so at its own risk and I may or may not revive Oak to rectify the situation. It all depends on the context and what kind of feels I'm havin' that day.
I did what I did back then to try to save the region. We were at each other's throats several months ago so I took control as the founder should in a time like that. Things have been pretty quiet lately. My system hasn't really taken off so. It's someone else's turn.
Don't worry, Alistia! No more "false flag emergencies" out of me!
Evening.
Forestavia, Malcholm
Not alot of messages....
Forestavia, Wolflandil
No, not really. I find myself not really having too much time for NS these days sadly
Forestavia, Malcholm
Same.
What with my 9 hour work shifts, and my "not getting many days off".
Malcholm
I don't have a consistent work schedule but I work 4.5 hours when I work during the week and I work 8 hour shifts on the weekends
Malcholm
My schedule right now has me working 9 days in a row.
Customers get unbearable on day 6.
ARRGH! Good to be back on the high seas me lads!
Good evening! Welcome to TMC!
Hm. Looks like they're asleep.
Welcome back!
Makes sense, makes sense.
tumbleweed rolls by
Exotic Lemon
I love (tumble)weed
Terran Flux
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