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Rondaland wrote:Lol nah :p

Ive just been using borbun

He has arisen from the ground.... didn't think it was zombie day yet haha

Alright then with only [nation=short]Malcholm[/nation] running for the JB seat, he wins by default. [B]As such, effective April 1st, this is the regional goverment:[/B]

Prime Minister: [nation=short]VIVA ITALIA[/nation]

Minister of Foreign Affairs: [nation=short]New Bacon[/nation]

Minister of Defense: [nation=short]Alistia[/nation]

Minister of Culture: [nation=short]Barishmacht[/nation]

Minister of Domestic Affairs: [nation=short]Mugwop[/nation]

JB Seat #1 [nation=short]Malcholm[/nation] (Term: April 1st - June 30th)

JB Seat #2 [nation=short]Chingis[/nation] (Term: February 1st - April 30th) (Judicial President)

JB Seat #3 Vacant (Term: March 1st - May 31st)

Now if you all choose we can have 1 more set of election to full Seat 3 because we have some time left, but this election does not reset the term, i.e: within 2 months Seat #3 will go on reelection regardless.

Forestavia, Alistia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Post self-deleted by Viva Italia.

Mugwop wrote:Alright then with only [nation=short]Malcholm[/nation] running for the JB seat, he wins by default. [B]As such, effective April 1st, this is the regional goverment:[/B]

Prime Minister: [nation=short]VIVA ITALIA[/nation]

Minister of Foreign Affairs: [nation=short]New Bacon[/nation]

Minister of Defense: [nation=short]Alistia[/nation]

Minister of Culture: [nation=short]Barishmacht[/nation]

Minister of Domestic Affairs: [nation=short]Mugwop[/nation]

JB Seat #1 [nation=short]Malcholm[/nation] (Term: April 1st - June 30th)

JB Seat #2 [nation=short]Chingis[/nation] (Term: February 1st - April 30th) (Judicial President)

JB Seat #3 Vacant (Term: March 1st - May 31st)

Now if you all choose we can have 1 more set of election to full Seat 3 because we have some time left, but this election does not reset the term, i.e: within 2 months Seat #3 will go on reelection regardless.

The foreign minister is The Immortal Elysium

Parakka Northland

Viva Italia wrote:The foreign minister is The Immortal Elysium

Oh yes now I remember. There was some confusion about it back then 2 weeks ago:

Mugwop wrote:Alright well that makes the current poll invalidated. [nation=short]The_Immortal_Elysium[/nation] is the minister of foreign affairs

Sorry about that. I blame the anarchist [nation=short]Alistia[/nation] for all of this.

Malcholm, Truxol, Parakka Northland

I blame joe for the mixup.

Parakka Northland

Mugwop wrote:Alright then with only [nation=short]Malcholm[/nation] running for the JB seat, he wins by default. [B]As such, effective April 1st, this is the regional goverment:[/B]

Prime Minister: [nation=short]VIVA ITALIA[/nation]

Minister of Foreign Affairs: [nation=short]New Bacon[/nation]

Minister of Defense: [nation=short]Alistia[/nation]

Minister of Culture: [nation=short]Barishmacht[/nation]

Minister of Domestic Affairs: [nation=short]Mugwop[/nation]

JB Seat #1 [nation=short]Malcholm[/nation] (Term: April 1st - June 30th)

JB Seat #2 [nation=short]Chingis[/nation] (Term: February 1st - April 30th) (Judicial President)

JB Seat #3 Vacant (Term: March 1st - May 31st)

Now if you all choose we can have 1 more set of election to full Seat 3 because we have some time left, but this election does not reset the term, i.e: within 2 months Seat #3 will go on reelection regardless.

Viva Italia wrote:The foreign minister is The Immortal Elysium

May i suggest that you send a copy of the new government officials to both the delegate and founder (I'm not going to assume ill still be in the position by then lol) that way they can be installed on time hopefully

Forestavia

Parakka Northland wrote:May i suggest that you send a copy of the new government officials to both the delegate and founder (I'm not going to assume ill still be in the position by then lol) that way they can be installed on time hopefully

okay

Parakka Northland

Mugwop wrote:JB Seat #3 Vacant (Term: March 1st - May 31st)

Now if you all choose we can have 1 more set of election to full Seat 3 because we have some time left, but this election does not reset the term, i.e: within 2 months Seat #3 will go on reelection regardless.

It'd be good to go ahead and fill it, imo.

Forestavia, Parakka Northland

Malcholm wrote:It'd be good to go ahead and fill it, imo.

[nation=short]New Bacon[/nation], thoughts? Full the spot now or keep it empty?

Mugwop wrote:[nation=short]New Bacon[/nation], thoughts? Full the spot now or keep it empty?

If it involves me in filling the seat no, keep it empty. If someone else wants to participate that's fine we can fill it. Also I'm not the minister of foreign affairs Immortal is.

Forestavia wrote:It was quite brilliant actually but THOSE REVOLUTIONARIES didn't give it a chance to work. Naumadal's ghost still haunts our region to this day.

dont forget about the trf flag in the capital :P

Truxol

also im against the delegate having 2 positions

New Bacon, Parakka Northland

I think one position per player.

New Bacon, Parakka Northland

Alistia wrote:dont forget about the trf flag in the capital :P

I remember that too. The weird thing was, I was actually awake that night and logged in and saw the craziness happening. At first I thought it was a prank, but then the truth came out several hours later.

Parakka Northland

Alistia wrote:also im against the delegate having 2 positions

The Immortal Elysium wrote:I think one position per player.

But what if they are really, really, really, really, really spectacular at multitasking and accumulating power and dominating with an iron fist? They should be given a chance, right? I would trust them. For a little while anyway. Then we could launch a revolution against them if they were too iron fisted! Show them the way we are down here in the TMC.

Gyuamno, Malcholm

Malcholm wrote:It'd be good to go ahead and fill it, imo.

You guys want me to appoint someone until we can have an election for the #3 spot?

Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Forestavia wrote:But what if they are really, really, really, really, really spectacular at multitasking and accumulating power and dominating with an iron fist? They should be given a chance, right? I would trust them. For a little while anyway. Then we could launch a revolution against them if they were too iron fisted! Show them the way we are down here in the TMC.

i used to be the iron fist dominator, that's why i'm against it for others, no one else is ready for the sith powers that comes with being a strong delegate.

Forestavia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Forestavia wrote:You guys want me to appoint someone until we can have an election for the #3 spot?

i say civ

Alistia wrote:i say civ

You read my mind.

Alistia

[nation=short]Civilisunio[/nation],

I'm going to appoint you *temporarily* to the third judicial spot until we have an election for that spot. This is a temporary appointment that will cease when a new justice is elected.

Alistia, Malcholm, Civilisunio, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon

Also,

I temporarily grant sith powers to Alistia, the Great and Glorious Multitasker who will once again resurrect the Lunar Cou-

*interference*

*transmission ends suddenly*

Alistia, Parakka Northland

Mugwop wrote:[nation=short]New Bacon[/nation], thoughts? Full the spot now or keep it empty?

Just do a poll for candidates and see what we get. I don't like the idea of it being left empty if at all possible

Malcholm

Parakka Northland wrote:Just do a poll for candidates and see what we get. I don't like the idea of it being left empty if at all possible

Scratch that I noticed Forest sorted it :)

Forestavia wrote:[nation=short]Civilisunio[/nation],

I'm going to appoint you *temporarily* to the third judicial spot until we have an election for that spot. This is a temporary appointment that will cease when a new justice is elected.

Alrighty.

Parakka Northland

Alistia wrote:also im against the delegate having 2 positions

The Immortal Elysium wrote:I think one position per player.

I agree with both of you!

Forestavia wrote:But what if they are really, really, really, really, really spectacular at multitasking and accumulating power and dominating with an iron fist? They should be given a chance, right? I would trust them. For a little while anyway. Then we could launch a revolution against them if they were too iron fisted! Show them the way we are down here in the TMC.

NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO to the infinity! Unless there is little competition.

Alistia, Malcholm

New Bacon wrote:I agree with both of you! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO to the infinity! Unless there is little competition.

I'm just joking. lol! I think we have a pretty good system to deal with vacancies. Mugwop, Civ, Alistia, Parakka, and I were talking about it the other day and found a pretty good solution.

Alistia, New Bacon, Parakka Northland

Forestavia wrote:I'm just joking. lol! I think we have a pretty good system to deal with vacancies. Mugwop, Civ, Alistia, Parakka, and I were talking about it the other day and found a pretty good solution.

All I saw was Mugwop bum, bum, parakka

Alistia, Civilisunio, Parakka Northland

Truxol wrote:All I saw was Mugwop bum, bum, parakka

Haha

Alistia, Truxol

Truxol wrote:All I saw was Mugwop bum, bum, parakka

Bum say what? :p

Alistia, Truxol

Gyuamno wrote:Dear Comrades!

I am pleased to announce the newest regional party!

Today is a glorious day, in conjunction with close allies, we the proletariat, establish the Mystical Communist Party!

Here is to a Brighter and Red-er future.

Do you have a dispatch on the party? I'm updating the regional info center.

Truxol

Parakka Northland wrote:Like I said it's my view, simply because if your an ambassador and that's the reason your in the region (which is different from being in multiple regions for fun) then an ambassador voting is in effect having a foreign religion interfering in internal affairs. Hope that makes my response seem less rude and more thought out

Parakka Northland wrote:Like I said it's my view, simply because if your an ambassador and that's the reason your in the region (which is different from being in multiple regions for fun) then an ambassador voting is in effect having a foreign religion interfering in internal affairs. Hope that makes my response seem less rude and more thought out

I completely understand, thanks.

Sorry I've been as inactive as ever.

Forestavia, Parakka Northland

Hello.

Malcholm, Civilisunio

Aratain wrote:I completely understand, thanks.

Sorry I've been as inactive as ever.

Inactivity happens to us all at one time or another. Real life is tough.

Malcholm, Parakka Northland, Aratain

Trudeau Eulogies wrote:Hello.

Welcome! :)

Malcholm

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Malcholm, Civilisunio, Parakka Northland

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Exotic Lemon

Civilisunio wrote:Spam much?

The only limit is you... at ZomboCom.

Man ZomboCom was one of the first websites I saw when I used the internet for the first time.

Malcholm, Truxol, Parakka Northland

Everyone my WA is leaving again. If the delegacy is unstable I'm sorry. The Battle Guard is on a mission and I have to pursue it.

Alistia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland

New Bacon wrote:Everyone my WA is leaving again. If the delegacy is unstable I'm sorry. The Battle Guard is on a mission and I have to pursue it.

Mine will be leaving shortly as well.

Malcholm

[nation=short]Forestavia[/nation] stopping pining the Regional Information Center, it's all available inside the The Mystical Council Government Page.

Malcholm, Viva Italia

Mugwop wrote:[nation=short]Forestavia[/nation] stopping pining the Regional Information Center, it's all available inside the The Mystical Council Government Page.

You might as well ask the sun to disappear. You know he is never going to stop.

Malcholm, Civilisunio

I'd actually like the sun to dissappear.

Apparantly, according to those who have never seen me without my jacket on, I am as white as printer paper.

I believe I have what is Celtic Skin. (Means I get burned soon as I step foot outside.)

But I did manage to shoot off my rocket 5 times.

Alistia, Truxol, Civilisunio, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon

The Immortal Elysium wrote:I'd actually like the sun to dissappear.

Apparantly, according to those who have never seen me without my jacket on, I am as white as printer paper.

I believe I have what is Celtic Skin. (Means I get burned soon as I step foot outside.)

But I did manage to shoot off my rocket 5 times.

I can kinda relate, I'm half mexican, and a quarter german and irish, yet I'm incredibly pale skinned.

Truxol wrote:I can kinda relate, I'm half mexican, and a quarter german and irish, yet I'm incredibly pale skinned.

In full Irish and I can certainly relate.I can't get tans I can only get burnt

Truxol, Civilisunio

Viva Italia wrote:In full Irish and I can certainly relate.I can't get tans I can only get burnt

I can't relate, i am mostly italian and i also have alot of Irish but i seem not to burn and i get really good tans except for my face.

Exotic Lemon, Viva Italia

I got burnt.

It is going to suck at work tomorrow. I literally cannot go to the beach or anything without wearing a shirt or something, because the highest level of sunscreen we get, applied hourly, doesn't work.

I hope I am not on the oven tomorrow....

Civilisunio wrote:I can't relate, i am mostly italian and i also have alot of Irish but i seem not to burn and i get really good tans except for my face.

I am half italian, but I inherited my mother's vampire-pale skin while my twin inherited my father's darker Italian tan. I also sizzle and bake in the sun after only an hour or two.

Truxol

https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_holy_reich_of_bunicken still has a copy of our flag as their flag :P

Malcholm

Alistia wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_holy_reich_of_bunicken still has a copy of our flag as their flag :P

You realise both regions flags are the flag of the Teutonic order right?

Truxol

Viva Italia wrote:You realise both regions flags are the flag of the Teutonic order right?

Yes i know i am the one who originally put up the flag here about a year ago :P

Malcholm

Alistia wrote:Yes i know i am the one who originally put up the flag here about a year ago :P

plugo can you help me make some medals for the battle guard?

Truxol

Exotic Lemon wrote:plugo can you help me make some medals for the battle guard?

maybe

Truxol

Guys have we finished the voting for office positions? As if so and if no one objects i would like to put to the table the vote on whether we should consider becoming members of The Regional Alliance. Yes im aware that the treaty isnt perfect or 100% complete. However, i think ive done as much as i can with it on my own before any member regions can start to contribute. So fair the member regions that have had a stake in The Regional Alliance create are listed there. In addition i have spoken about [nation=short]New Bacon[/nation] about The Battle Guard joining also.

So if no major objections ill either post the poll tomorrow night or ask [nation=short]Forestavia[/nation] to do it if he is online

Malcholm

Parakka Northland wrote:Guys have we finished the voting for office positions? As if so and if no one objects i would like to put to the table the vote on whether we should consider becoming members of The Regional Alliance. Yes im aware that the treaty isnt perfect or 100% complete. However, i think ive done as much as i can with it on my own before any member regions can start to contribute. So fair the member regions that have had a stake in The Regional Alliance create are listed there. In addition i have spoken about [nation=short]New Bacon[/nation] about The Battle Guard joining also.

So if no major objections ill either post the poll tomorrow night or ask [nation=short]Forestavia[/nation] to do it if he is online

have we done a poll for foriegn affairs yet?

Truxol, Parakka Northland

what should my next article be on? and can someone update the wfe to remove the polls that expired.

Malcholm

Exotic Lemon wrote:have we done a poll for foriegn affairs yet?

long ago, thats immortal elysium.

The Mystical Council News Agency wrote:what should my next article be on? and can someone update the wfe to remove the polls that expired.

maybe goals the new govt members have?

and happy new year should also be removed, replaced with happy spring maybe.

Parakka Northland

wheres a list of our spring govt officers?

Parakka Northland

Alistia wrote:wheres a list of our spring govt officers?

Prime Minister: [nation=short]VIVA ITALIA[/nation]

Minister of Foreign Affairs: [nation=short]The_Immortal_Elysium[/nation]

Minister of Defense: [nation=short]Alistia[/nation]

Minister of Culture: [nation=short]Barishmacht[/nation]

Minister of Domestic Affairs: [nation=short]Mugwop[/nation]

JB Seat #1 [nation=short]Malcholm[/nation] (Term: April 1st - June 30th) (No office)

JB Seat #2 [nation=short]Chingis[/nation] (Term: February 1st - April 30th) (Judicial President)

JB Seat #3 [nation=short]Civilisunio[/nation] (Term: March 1st - May 31st) (No office)

Parakka Northland wrote:Guys have we finished the voting for office positions? As if so and if no one objects i would like to put to the table the vote on whether we should consider becoming members of The Regional Alliance. Yes im aware that the treaty isnt perfect or 100% complete. However, i think ive done as much as i can with it on my own before any member regions can start to contribute. So fair the member regions that have had a stake in The Regional Alliance create are listed there. In addition i have spoken about [nation=short]New Bacon[/nation] about The Battle Guard joining also.

So if no major objections ill either post the poll tomorrow night or ask [nation=short]Forestavia[/nation] to do it if he is online

Can you make some sort of dispatch about it first? There's a lot of details that I think should be clarified about the alliance before joining it.

Alistia, Malcholm

One more thing, after rounds of discussion, it seems that the most popular solution for officers being delegates, is that the two people just switch office positions. S o that's going to be the main solution in the proposal when it goes on for polling.

Mugwop wrote:Prime Minister: [nation=short]VIVA ITALIA[/nation]

Minister of Foreign Affairs: [nation=short]The_Immortal_Elysium[/nation]

Minister of Defense: [nation=short]Alistia[/nation]

Minister of Culture: [nation=short]Barishmacht[/nation]

Minister of Domestic Affairs: [nation=short]Mugwop[/nation]

JB Seat #1 [nation=short]Malcholm[/nation] (Term: April 1st - June 30th) (No office)

JB Seat #2 [nation=short]Chingis[/nation] (Term: February 1st - April 30th) (Judicial President)

JB Seat #3 [nation=short]Civilisunio[/nation] (Term: March 1st - May 31st) (No office)

Can you make some sort of dispatch about it first? There's a lot of details that I think should be clarified about the alliance before joining it.

Here is a link to the draft treaty so far https://www.nationstates.net/nation=malazan_imperium/detail=factbook/id=main

Anything else your welcome to ask

Parakka Northland wrote:Here is a link to the draft treaty so far https://www.nationstates.net/nation=malazan_imperium/detail=factbook/id=main

Anything else your welcome to ask

So how does the The Alliance Senate goverment works? How does someone from TMC or SA become a goverment official in that regional system?

Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Mugwop wrote:

So how does the The Alliance Senate goverment works? How does someone from TMC or SA become a goverment official in that regional system?

I assumed people would want to elect someone to the the Senate to represent them or have their delegate/founder do that.  In terms of officials.  People would put their names forward and either the Senate or the member regions would vote on them.

Parakka Northland wrote:I assumed people would want to elect someone to the the Senate to represent them or have their delegate/founder do that.  In terms of officials.  People would put their names forward and either the Senate or the member regions would vote on them.

So how is the first goverment going to be formed? Say the "Alliance Prime Minister", what is the procedure for the first PM to come into office.

Malcholm

First and foremost we would need to get the signatorys sorted. Once that's happened then I envision that people will be able to put their names forward for various positions and then either the regions will be able to vote or the senate. If you have any suggestions on how to do it differently or to make the process more effective then I would greatly appreciate your input

Malcholm

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Parakka Northland wrote:First and foremost we would need to get the signatorys sorted. Once that's happened then I envision that people will be able to put their names forward for various positions and then either the regions will be able to vote or the senate. If you have any suggestions on how to do it differently or to make the process more effective then I would greatly appreciate your input

Yeah it's just there's a lot involved in sorting these kinds of thing. I guess you can setup the same election method we got here, with anyone who's a citizen of a signatory region, can vote and run for office over there. You gotta have some sort of limit on how many officers can be from one region though; you don't want for example that everyone in the alliance goverment to be from TMC, so you need to figure out some balance rule.

Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Mugwop wrote:Yeah it's just there's a lot involved in sorting these kinds of thing. I guess you can setup the same election method we got here, with anyone who's a citizen of a signatory region, can vote and run for office over there. You gotta have some sort of limit on how many officers can be from one region though; you don't want for example that everyone in the alliance goverment to be from TMC, so you need to figure out some balance rule.

I'll look at adding something like that into the treaty. Maybe create an election document that coincides with the treaty?

Happy Birthday to me.

New Bacon, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon, Trudeau Eulogies

The Immortal Elysium wrote:Happy Birthday to me.

Happy birthday friend! Go eat cake n stuff :D

Parakka Northland, Viva Italia, Trudeau Eulogies

The Immortal Elysium wrote:Happy Birthday to me.
Happy birthday, https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_immortal_elysium

Civilisunio, Parakka Northland

Trudeau Eulogies wrote:Happy birthday, https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_immortal_elysium

[nation=short]the_immortal_elysium[/nation] ;)

Trudeau Eulogies

Civilisunio wrote:[nation=short]the_immortal_elysium[/nation] ;)
Call me stupid, but how do you make a link to a nation without the link address?

Civilisunio

Trudeau Eulogies wrote:Call me stupid, but how do you make a link to a nation without the link address?

@ and then their name. All one word. If there is spaces use underscores in place of those spaces.

Alistia wrote:long ago, thats immortal elysium.

maybe goals the new govt members have?

and happy new year should also be removed, replaced with happy spring maybe.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_mystical_council_news_agency/detail=factbook/id=794277 I need the new government to share their goals please. - Lemon

Malcholm

I'll get the goals to you tomorrow, if I have time.

It's late right now.

The Immortal Elysium wrote:Happy Birthday to me.

Happy Birthday!

Malcholm

The Mystical Council News Agency wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_mystical_council_news_agency/detail=factbook/id=794277 I need the new government to share their goals please. - Lemon

I have been trying to get the ministers to make their addresses for the coming monthly report but I haven't heard back

Viva Italia wrote:I have been trying to get the ministers to make their addresses for the coming monthly report but I haven't heard back

I thought you wanted it on April 1

The Immortal Elysium wrote:Happy Birthday to me.

Happy birthday

Mugwop wrote:I thought you wanted it on April 1

I do however I would like to have it made before hand

Viva Italia wrote:I do however I would like to have it made before hand

Well for me it's not complicated that I need to prepare it. In fact, I can get right to the point with what my immediate step are:

1. Put into vote the proposal I made about delegate switching.

2. Put into vote a poll about whether or not we should keep the Grand Duke position.

3. Look more into previous TMC laws and find any loopholes to fill.

4. Work with our new Minister of Culture [nation=short]Barishmacht[/nation] to explore the possibility of making a new regional flag (I think we need to retire the one we have now)

So yeah those are my immediate plans.

Malcholm, Truxol, Viva Italia

Mugwop wrote:Yeah it's just there's a lot involved in sorting these kinds of thing. I guess you can setup the same election method we got here, with anyone who's a citizen of a signatory region, can vote and run for office over there. You gotta have some sort of limit on how many officers can be from one region though; you don't want for example that everyone in the alliance government to be from TMC, so you need to figure out some balance rule.

Ideally, we would work off a per-region quota or proportionality system; say, three officials per region (at most), or one official per four or five WA citizens in the region up to X officials.

We would also need to ensure that all the regions involved have a list of nations who have a WA membership and cross-check to make sure that players aren't trying to operate in TRA's government from multiple regions: i.e., I wouldn't be allowed to run for a government position as [nation=short]malcholm[/nation] in TRA if I'm already serving as the TRA Emissary to TGHI, or any other official capacity, as [nation=short]Pyrosky[/nation]. It should be obvious, but I only mention it because I know a few of us have puppets across all three regions and TGHI doesn't have an official citizen registry.

I'd think it'd be pertinent to formalize the position of "TRA Emissary" for myself, Parakka, and Oak in our respective regions, at least initially. I have no problems with handing it off later, I just don't want things to go awry, as they do, when things are left to a democratic system in the early stages of development.

Parakka Northland

Malcholm wrote:Ideally, we would work off a per-region quota or proportionality system; say, three officials per region (at most), or one official per four or five WA citizens in the region up to X officials.

We would also need to ensure that all the regions involved have a list of nations who have a WA membership and cross-check to make sure that players aren't trying to operate in TRA's government from multiple regions: i.e., I wouldn't be allowed to run for a government position as [nation=short]malcholm[/nation] in TRA if I'm already serving as the TRA Emissary to TGHI, or any other official capacity, as [nation=short]Pyrosky[/nation]. It should be obvious, but I only mention it because I know a few of us have puppets across all three regions and TGHI doesn't have an official citizen registry.

I'd think it'd be pertinent to formalize the position of "TRA Emissary" for myself, Parakka, and Oak in our respective regions, at least initially. I have no problems with handing it off later, I just don't want things to go awry, as they do, when things are left to a democratic system in the early stages of development.

Ok just to make sure I get this right, it seems from discussions that there needs to be some sort of quota system for regional officers of TRA. Are we agreed or agreed as much is possible at this stage that the limit should be 3 members from each region? If so do I include this in the main treaty document or a separate one?

I also think the TRA Emissary role is good idea. Also like you said later on it can be more democratically handed over.

Parakka Northland wrote:Ok just to make sure I get this right, it seems from discussions that there needs to be some sort of quota system for regional officers of TRA. Are we agreed or agreed as much is possible at this stage that the limit should be 3 members from each region? If so do I include this in the main treaty document or a separate one?

I also think the TRA Emissary role is good idea. Also like you said later on it can be more democratically handed over.

Don't put a number on it just yet. You will need to factor in how big is each member region, and how much each member region is involved.

Malcholm, Parakka Northland

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Parakka Northland wrote:Ok just to make sure I get this right, it seems from discussions that there needs to be some sort of quota system for regional officers of TRA. Are we agreed or agreed as much is possible at this stage that the limit should be 3 members from each region? If so do I include this in the main treaty document or a separate one?

I also think the TRA Emissary role is good idea. Also like you said later on it can be more democratically handed over.

your official plan or not? thanks, Lemon.

The Mystical Council News Agency wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_mystical_council_news_agency/detail=factbook/id=794277 updated with malcholm and mugwops plans. Parakka is your previous postyour official plan or not? thanks, Lemon.

You might want to add a little context, i.e., Mugwop and Parakka's discussion up to that point summed up in a concise spoiler tag. Mugwop's plans resolve the more pressing issues facing the region, mine involve ideas slated for the future.

Mugwop wrote:Don't put a number on it just yet. You will need to factor in how big is each member region, and how much each member region is involved.

I wouldn't say that we need to factor in regional involvement, only because that would hopefully be a non-issue. Statistically, Parakka and Forestavia have the larger regions, and I wouldn't want my fledgling no-man's land to go underrepresented just because the players are less active. We've seen a lot of growth as of late, so that in itself is (hopefully) soon to be a non-issue.

Malcholm wrote:You might want to add a little context, i.e., Mugwop and Parakka's discussion up to that point summed up in a concise spoiler tag. Mugwop's plans resolve the more pressing issues facing the region, mine involve ideas slated for the future. I wouldn't say that we need to factor in regional involvement, only because that would hopefully be a non-issue. Statistically, Parakka and Forestavia have the larger regions, and I wouldn't want my fledgling no-man's land to go underrepresented just because the players are less active. We've seen a lot of growth as of late, so that in itself is (hopefully) soon to be a non-issue.

Yeah now that I think of it, participation is hard to quantify.

How about this:

1. Delegate is not part of the goverment. In fact the delegate is non-exe. The alliance region is not a main region, so most of our WA will be in our home regions, and as a result an exe. delegate over there will put it in unnecessary raid risk.

2. Beyond the delegate whose position is meaningless, there should be 10 goverment positions (not counting the region's founder)

3. Of each member region, they deserve no less than a fifth of the goverment, but no more than half i.e: TMC can have a minimum of 2/10 reps in the alliance goverment and a maximum of 5/10 reps. This way we ensure that people can vote for their home region as they wish, but no member region can hog the whole goverment.

Malcholm wrote:Ideally, we would work off a per-region quota or proportionality system; say, three officials per region (at most), or one official per four or five WA citizens in the region up to X officials.

We would also need to ensure that all the regions involved have a list of nations who have a WA membership and cross-check to make sure that players aren't trying to operate in TRA's government from multiple regions: i.e., I wouldn't be allowed to run for a government position as [nation=short]malcholm[/nation] in TRA if I'm already serving as the TRA Emissary to TGHI, or any other official capacity, as [nation=short]Pyrosky[/nation]. It should be obvious, but I only mention it because I know a few of us have puppets across all three regions and TGHI doesn't have an official citizen registry.

I'd think it'd be pertinent to formalize the position of "TRA Emissary" for myself, Parakka, and Oak in our respective regions, at least initially. I have no problems with handing it off later, I just don't want things to go awry, as they do, when things are left to a democratic system in the early stages of development.

Im interestes in the govt of sa and tmc.. :(

Malcholm wrote:Ideally, we would work off a per-region quota or proportionality system; say, three officials per region (at most), or one official per four or five WA citizens in the region up to X officials.

We would also need to ensure that all the regions involved have a list of nations who have a WA membership and cross-check to make sure that players aren't trying to operate in TRA's government from multiple regions: i.e., I wouldn't be allowed to run for a government position as [nation=short]malcholm[/nation] in TRA if I'm already serving as the TRA Emissary to TGHI, or any other official capacity, as [nation=short]Pyrosky[/nation]. It should be obvious, but I only mention it because I know a few of us have puppets across all three regions and TGHI doesn't have an official citizen registry.

I'd think it'd be pertinent to formalize the position of "TRA Emissary" for myself, Parakka, and Oak in our respective regions, at least initially. I have no problems with handing it off later, I just don't want things to go awry, as they do, when things are left to a democratic system in the early stages of development.

Im interestes in the govt of sa and tmc.. :(

Viva Italia wrote:I have been trying to get the ministers to make their addresses for the coming monthly report but I haven't heard back

Theres nothing to report yet since the govt isnt appointed yet, do you mean a goal?

Alistia wrote:Im interestes in the govt of sa and tmc.. :(Theres nothing to report yet since the govt isnt appointed yet, do you mean a goal?

Yes

The Mystical Council News Agency wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_mystical_council_news_agency/detail=factbook/id=794277 updated with malcholm and mugwops plans. Parakka is your previous postyour official plan or not? thanks, Lemon.

If that is the main consensus then yep.

In terms of [nation=short]mugwop[/nation] point with the delegate of TRA I think it's already set to none executive.

Alistia wrote:Im interestes in the govt of sa and tmc.. :(

I think and I could be wrong here but [nation=short]Malcholm[/nation] is basically suggesting if you already have one capacity in TRA then you can't have another. So if your acting as TRA emissary to TMC then you can't be TRA Prime Minister. That doesn't mean you can't have a role in TRA and TMC.

Malcholm

Parakka Northland wrote:If that is the main consensus then yep.

In terms of [nation=short]mugwop[/nation] point with the delegate of TRA I think it's already set to none executive.

I think and I could be wrong here but [nation=short]Malcholm[/nation] is basically suggesting if you already have one capacity in TRA then you can't have another. So if your acting as TRA emissary to TMC then you can't be TRA Prime Minister. That doesn't mean you can't have a role in TRA and TMC.

That'd be correct, yes.

Parakka Northland

Mugwop wrote:Yeah now that I think of it, participation is hard to quantify.

How about this:

1. Delegate is not part of the goverment. In fact the delegate is non-exe. The alliance region is not a main region, so most of our WA will be in our home regions, and as a result an exe. delegate over there will put it in unnecessary raid risk.

2. Beyond the delegate whose position is meaningless, there should be 10 goverment positions (not counting the region's founder)

3. Of each member region, they deserve no less than a fifth of the government, but no more than half i.e: TMC can have a minimum of 2/10 reps in the alliance government and a maximum of 5/10 reps. This way we ensure that people can vote for their home region as they wish, but no member region can hog the whole government.

Sounds good to me. 10 seems like a lot at face value, but when put into perspective it makes sense. One theoretical for you though, what if a fourth region were to jump on board with us between now and the ratification (TBG, for example)? Would the proportions change to accommodate them? i.e.: Minimum stays at 1/5, but maximum changes to 2/5?

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