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Forestavia wrote:So in exchange for them invading us we have them positions in government! ;)

Sweet Jesus have mercy on us all.

Malcholm, Oakplumington, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

Everloyal and I are going to work on a military proposal over the next few weeks. I hope we can come up with something that is satisfactory to the government.

Malcholm, Everloyal

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:Sweet Jesus have mercy on us all.

We were miniscule back then. I don't think our region would go for that these days.

Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

Forestavia wrote:Well, our region has a history of embracing invaders. And we also have a high rate of forgiveness. Raiders have actually done a lot for our region. Without all of those invasions we would have become stagnant. At the time we had like five nations here. So in exchange for them invading us we have them positions in government! ;)

Do you remember that when Chingislan and Jegerkompaniet was in the region and there was a need to fill the lunar council seats. And they weren't elected. They were appointed by me to fill the positions. That was after the invasion they did. Of course that was in the old days Forestavia.

Of course that was rare for me to do. Now there is a high interest in the lunar council. :)

Malcholm

New Bacon wrote:Do you remember that when Chingislan and Jegerkompaniet was in the region and there was a need to fill the lunar council seats. And they weren't elected. They were appointed by me to fill the positions. That was after the invasion they did. Of course that was in the old days Forestavia.

Yep. That's right. We had a major shortage of seats back then. We were operating with half a government. It's amazing how far we've come.

New Bacon, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

I just read through it. I believe it is ready. http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=587227

Oakplumington wrote:I just read through it. I believe it is ready. http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=587227

I amended section 18 a little bit. I specified that three Lunar Councillors have to be in agreement in order to issue a ruling.

Malcholm

*Everloyal appears from the shadows*

How is everyone?

New Bacon, Oakplumington, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

Everloyal wrote:*Everloyal appears from the shadows*

How is everyone?

Good. We're cleaning up the region a little bit. Spring cleaning day.

New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

I will be giving my last State of the Region Address in July. After that, it will be up to the Delegate, and the Presidents to give those types of speeches.

New Bacon, Malcholm

Oakplumington wrote:I will be giving my last State of the Region Address in July. After that, it will be up to the Delegate, and the Presidents to give those types of speeches.

Dropping the ball I see oak. :)

New Bacon, Oakplumington

Everloyal wrote:Dropping the ball I see oak. :)

I'm just slowly easing the regional government into more responsibilities. I'm delegating tasks. My goal is to have the region function without so much input from the founder position.

New Bacon, Malcholm

Oakplumington wrote:I'm just slowly easing the regional government into more responsibilities. I'm delegating tasks. My goal is to have the region function without so much input from the founder position.

Just messing with you. well I hope next time we put the defence act up on a poll it gets voted in.

New Bacon, Malcholm

Everloyal wrote:Just messing with you. well I hope next time we put the defence act up on a poll it gets voted in.

Me too. I'm going to look at it again soon and think about how to reword it. If we pass it in pieces we might be better off.

New Bacon, Malcholm

Oakplumington wrote:Me too. I'm going to look at it again soon and think about how to reword it. If we pass it in pieces we might be better off.

At least enough so we can get a primitive military running.

New Bacon

I had a funny thought. What if we were invaded tonight and the invaders saved the embassies that we just decided to close? And then they left without changing anything else. That would be hilarious to me.

New Bacon

Everloyal wrote:At least enough so we can get a primitive military running.

We still have this: http://www.nationstates.net/nation=oakplumington/detail=factbook/id=571927

It's not official and it's completely voluntary.

And it hasn't been updated since February....

New Bacon

Oakplumington wrote:We still have this: http://www.nationstates.net/nation=oakplumington/detail=factbook/id=571927

It's not official and it's completely voluntary.

And it hasn't been updated since February....

Scrap it... it never happened we are starting out brand new.

New Bacon

Advertisement:

Volunteer for your region today. The Mystical Council needs your help in the Regional Guard!

New Bacon

Everloyal wrote:Scrap it... it never happened we are starting out brand new.

ok.

*Finds delete button*

New Bacon

That's a creepy flag.

New Bacon

It's late. I've got to go to bed. I have no idea when I'm going to log back in. I think I might have another inactive spell. Your homework is to read the constitution, find problems with it, ask questions about it, clarify stuff, etc.

Night!

New Bacon, Malcholm

Oakplumington wrote:That's a creepy flag.

Canada man.

New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

Everloyal wrote:Canada man.

I think I like Florida Man better. (see http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/florida-man )

New Bacon, Rrepaimziaraseh, Malcholm

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate wrote:I think I like Florida Man better. (see http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/florida-man )

... *returns to silence*

New Bacon

Good luck with the embassy cleaning !

New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate wrote:I think I like Florida Man better. (see http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/florida-man )

God bless Florida Man.

New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

Just one more thing...

[nation=short]everloyal[/nation] you have the creepiest flag in the entire region. O_o

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Tumetu-Iin Noyan

Oakplumington wrote:That's a creepy flag.

It really is... O_o

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Tumetu-Iin Noyan

New Bacon wrote:It really is... O_o

nah fam it is fine

Dosh Semiw, New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

Everloyal wrote:nah fam it is fine

make it this crap http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/018/259/55181940.jpg just do it and don't ask question.

Malcholm

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:make it this crap http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/018/259/55181940.jpg just do it and don't ask question.

You have weird fetishes...

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

RP:

[Forestavia's Representative on the floor of Sentagon.]

"It has been a struggle to develop an official military here in this region. I would like to point out to the region that Everloyal is launching a campaign for Defense Minister in The Sacred Order. This is his campaign dispatch: http://www.nationstates.net/nation=everloyal3/detail=factbook/id=646490

*waves paper*

If any here are unsure or unconvinced of Everloyal's qualifications pay close attention to the office of Defense Minister in The Sacred Order. I hope that after you see how he runs things in another region, Everloyal's military ambitions in our own region will be given the green light by our government. His campaign incorporates both strength and transparency.

Let's cheer on our region mate! Good luck on the campaign trail, Everloyal!"

Dosh Semiw, New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Everloyal

Forestavia wrote:RP:

[Forestavia's Representative on the floor of Sentagon.]

"It has been a struggle to develop an official military here in this region. I would like to point out to the region that Everloyal is launching a campaign for Defense Minister in The Sacred Order. This is his campaign dispatch: http://www.nationstates.net/nation=everloyal3/detail=factbook/id=646490

*waves paper*

If any here are unsure or unconvinced of Everloyal's qualifications pay close attention to the office of Defense Minister in The Sacred Order. I hope that after you see how he runs things in another region, Everloyal's military ambitions in our own region will be given the green light by our government. His campaign incorporates both strength and transparency.

Let's cheer on our region mate! Good luck on the campaign trail, Everloyal!"

I was not thinking about that I was doing because prospects here are going nowhere. as forest said I hope you will take it as an example of what I could do here. (If I am elected)

New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

Anyway I can be in the election?

Dosh Semiw, New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

Fezchia wrote:Anyway I can be in the election?

Yes I will put you on the poll.

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Fezchia

So tempting to change this flag... to anything.

Forestavia, New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Fezchia

P.S. IF YOUR LUNAR COUNCIL SEAT IS SAFE DONT WORRY ABOUT THE POLL.

Malcholm, Fezchia

Everloyal wrote:So tempting to change this flag... to anything.

My boy, your flag is the definition of perfection. You have the blessings of Spongebob's earliest known ancestor. There can be no greater honor.

Forestavia, New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Fezchia

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:My boy, your flag is the definition of perfection. You have the blessings of Spongebob's earliest known ancestor. There can be no greater honor.

I feel so privleged.

Forestavia, New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Fezchia

As you should; I too have now changed my flags. May the blessings of the Cave Spongebob be upon us all.

New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Fezchia

Considering the seat on the ballot, I won't be participating in this election cycle. [nation=short]au912_mystical_council_consulate[/nation], you have my nation's blessings and endorsement. Your participation among the ranks of the Lunar Council has provided nothing short of benevolent insight and prosperity to the region.

Forestavia, New Bacon, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Fezchia

Hey guys I'm traveling for the next few days so if I don't respond to anyone right away please be aware that I'm traveling starting tommorow

Dosh Semiw, New Bacon, Malcholm

Fezchia wrote:Hey guys I'm traveling for the next few days so if I don't respond to anyone right away please be aware that I'm traveling starting tommorow

Ok. Safe travels!

Dosh Semiw, New Bacon, Malcholm

Please note the addition of Amendment 3 to the constitution. This thought just occurred to me. Amendment 3 is one more safeguard created to prevent our regional government from becoming too authoritarian - another check on government power.

"3. If the Lunar Council and the Delegacy ever become overly tyrannical with their power, Sentagon may choose to separate from the main region with the approval of least two-thirds of its members. It will be the responsibility of the President of Sentagon to hand the password to the other members of Sentagon and to create an interim government in the Sentagon region."

Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

[B]Attention all TMC residents,[/B] I invite you all to change your flags to this http://i.imgur.com/JB7HrLG.jpg

May you all have blessings of the Cave Spongebob.

Malcholm, Oakplumington, Fezchia

I updated the historical record.

The Thirty-Fifth Delegate of The Mystical Council

35. Malcholm: 5/15/2016 - 5/15?/2016, 12 hours

The Fourth President of Sentagon

4. New Bacon: 5/15/2016 - May 2016

New Bacon was the first Sentagon President to initiate a Presidential election.

The Thirty-Sixth Delegate of The Mystical Council

36. Plugo: Mid May 2016, served for 8 days.

The Fifth President of Sentagon

5. Rondaland: May 2016 - Present

The Thirty-Seventh Delegate of The Mystical Council

37. New Bacon: May 2016 - Present

New Bacon, Malcholm

I have also added the Lunar Council President Position to the historical record.

The First President of the Lunar Council

1. Malcholm: 2015 - Spring 2016

The Second President of the Lunar Council

2. Au912 Mystical Council Consulate: Spring 2016 - Present

New Bacon, Malcholm

RP:

The Forestavian High Councillor paced back and fourth in his office. After reading about The Sacred Order's attempt to have The Mystical Council merge with them, an idea began forming in his mind that he could not get rid of. He was Forestavia's current representative in Sentagon. He stood at the office window overlooking Circle Drive at the region's capitol. After drinking a glass of beer he sat down behind the typewriter.

"To Rondaland, President of Sentagon:

(CC: To Pyrosky)

After seeing The Sacred Order's failure to create any kind of enthusiasm regarding the recent merge proposal, I write with a hesitant hand about a similar topic. I believe that The Greater Holy Isles would be a prime candidate for colony status and that we could make their region our colony using Amendment 2 of our working constitution.

The way I see it, however, one thing needs to happen first. We need to make our working constitution official in the coming days. Without an official constitution, we will have no hope of ever acquiring any colonies.

We also need to have a discussion with the regional leadership of The Greater Holy Isles to see if colonization is something that they desire. There must be something in it for them, too.

It would be preferable for our region to establish a military of some sort so that we could offer future colonies protection.

Furthermore, you may have heard, the potatoes from the Isles are something special. They grow them large there - Bigly! And their harvest is great. Making The Greater Holy Isles a colony of The Mystical Council would allow our own region to prosper economically.

Please consider that the Isles have seen a shrinking population. The only way to save them now is to turn them into our colony. If we do nothing the Isles could cease to exist. And then where will we be? Those fleeters will take over and refound the place and the citizens will lose their motivation to grow potatoes under the communist system. And we cannot let this happen.

For the Glory of Sentagon,

James Chippy

High Councillor of The Theocratic Republic of Forestavia

Sentagon Representative (WA)"

He read the document over and faxed it to Rondalandian and Pyroskian leadership.

New Bacon, Malcholm

"8 hours ago: The Socialist Amazing Blue Cake of Prumerica of the region The Great Conservative Alliance proposed constructing embassies."

You guys think we should accept? They seem like an active good region.

New Bacon

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:"8 hours ago: The Socialist Amazing Blue Cake of Prumerica of the region The Great Conservative Alliance proposed constructing embassies."

You guys think we should accept? They seem like an active good region.

Their constitution is dazzlingly detailed.

I also like that they have an executive delegate over there.

We have a long list of candidates this time. So far our Lunar Council ballot looks like:

AU912 Mystical Council Consulate

Everloyal

Fezchia

Parakka Northland

Netherfar

New Bacon, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Parakka Northland

I have issued the second and last round of embassy closures, until The Union Depository is removed from the Embassy Protection Act.

Forestavia, New Bacon, Malcholm

Inquiry: Why are you closing the Unmoderated embassy?

Forestavia, New Bacon, Malcholm

Anarchistic Idealism wrote:Inquiry: Why are you closing the Unmoderated embassy?

I think we thought you were an inactive region. Also there were concerns about taking an antimoderation stand.

Forestavia, New Bacon, Malcholm

Question, is it true that a new delegate must wait 2 days after being elected, before they can remove/add officers?

New Bacon

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:Question, is it true that a new delegate must wait 2 days after being elected, before they can remove/add officers?

I'm not sure actually. I know that Border control has limits on it. One officer may be granted border control per 26 hours serving as Delegate. I don't know about the officer thing though.

New Bacon

FYI - Bunicken was recently invaded by the fleeters.

New Bacon

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate wrote:I think we thought you were an inactive region. Also there were concerns about taking an antimoderation stand.

Elaboration: Unmoderated, though founded to protest the deletions of upstanding members of the NationStates community, is currently neutral to the influence of moderators. The regions that have embassies with us are presumed to follow a policy of personal accountability, preferring to arbitrate disputes without staff oversight rather than sending a report at the first sign of trouble.

Forestavia, New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

Kladsko wrote:Not red harbor.

Oakplumington wrote:I'm surprised we have an embassy with the fleeters....hm.

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:Why not? I don't really know anything about the region. It just seems to me like a dead region with some puppets. Please tell me how its connection to TMC came to be.

Theory: [nation=short]Kladsko[/nation] is secretly the puppet of one of the fleeters in charge of Red Harbor.

[spoiler]Of course, I jest.[/spoiler]

New Bacon

Oakplumington wrote:I'm not sure actually. I know that Border control has limits on it. One officer may be granted border control per 26 hours serving as Delegate. I don't know about the officer thing though.

Considering what happened in Bunicken, a new delegate can change officers immediately. I hoped not; I was thinking about the possibility of implementing a plan to have our own officers eject an invader as soon as possible, but if they can do what they want as soon as they become delegate, the issue can't be solved without founder intervention.

New Bacon

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:Question, is it true that a new delegate must wait 2 days after being elected, before they can remove/add officers?

No bro only border control.

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:Considering what happened in Bunicken, a new delegate can change officers immediately. I hoped not; I was thinking about the possibility of implementing a plan to have our own officers eject an invader as soon as possible, but if they can do what they want as soon as they become delegate, the issue can't be solved without founder intervention.

Last time I was Delegate was for a defense op for ORCA in Followers of the Ferret and that was awhile ago. I'm glad they didn't change it personally. I feel that such a change would give too much of an advantage to the defender side of the R/D game.

The trick is to catch invaders before they become Delegate (that's really hard to do). Alternatively, we could just focus on fast reaction time. I'm honestly not too worried about invasions because we have enough deterrents here: active founder, WA nations, cross-endorsing, and (my personal favorite) influence. Influence is our last line of defense as well as our primary. It prevents the raiders from banning everyone all at once and gives us enough time to react. Plus, you've got to admit that the occasional raid is pretty fun. It's a thrill to lose control of the region every now and then. If it's just a tag raid, then it's harmless.

New Bacon, Malcholm

Anarchistic Idealism wrote:Elaboration: Unmoderated, though founded to protest the deletions of upstanding members of the NationStates community, is currently neutral to the influence of moderators. The regions that have embassies with us are presumed to follow a policy of personal accountability, preferring to arbitrate disputes without staff oversight rather than sending a report at the first sign of trouble.

Your best chance of saving your embassy is to make an appeal to the Lunar Council, Bacon, or Sentagon President Rondaland. If you send a telegram request you will want to include the Delegate, the President of Sentagon, and all five Lunar Council members on the telegram. Any of these seven nations have complete authority to unilaterally act to save or close your embassy.

You could draft a proposal to save your embassy and request that the three branches vote on it. The only challenge with that is that our polls are going to be tied up for awhile.

For example, you can use the starting point below.

~ Proposal to Immediately Add Unmoderated to the Protected Embassy List~

(optional) Intro: [Explain everything good about Unmoderated and its vision here] (optional)

1. This proposal amends the Embassy Protection Act hereby adding Unmoderated to the protected embassy list.

******

One of several things will happen:

- The government could remain firm in its decision to close your embassy.

- The government could change its mind and keep embassies.

- Your embassy could fall into limbo with one government officer closing and one cancelling closure of embassies.

- If your embassy falls into controversial limbo, that could prompt the government to put your proposal or someone else's proposal to vote. (You're at a disadvantage here because our polls will be busy until July. So you're going to want to become buddies with either the President of Sentagon or one of the officers in our back up region - Mystical Council)

Malcholm

http://i.imgur.com/58PaBR7.png

So I told [nation=short]New Bacon[/nation] to change his flag to The Primitive Spongebob.. he actually did it the absolute madman

Everyone should follow into the great steps of New Bacon. Glory awaits you all.

Forestavia, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Fezchia

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:http://i.imgur.com/58PaBR7.png

So I told [nation=short]New Bacon[/nation] to change his flag to The Primitive Spongebob.. he actually did it the absolute madman

Everyone should follow into the great steps of New Bacon. Glory awaits you all.

Sorry I can't do that as I hate spongebob as i have to watch it nearly everyday due to my 3 year old :'(

Oakplumington, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

Parakka Northland wrote:Sorry I can't do that as I hate spongebob as i have to watch it nearly everyday due to my 3 year old :'(

Just do it, and you well learn to love it.

New Bacon, Oakplumington, Parakka Northland

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:Just do it, and you well learn to love it.

Never! Not for all the crabby patties in the seven seas

New Bacon, Malcholm, Oakplumington, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

Hey everyone!

Dosh Semiw, Malcholm

Fiordlandia Ii wrote:Hey everyone!

Greetings!

Dosh Semiw, Malcholm

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate wrote:Greetings!

I'm returning to NS after a long hiatus, and decided to check out some of the smaller regions. Before, I was just one of hundreds in those large, spammish regions. I find the smaller ones much better. Anyways, I'll just be chillin' over here in 'Mystical Council until the region opens back up.

Dosh Semiw, Malcholm, Oakplumington, Parakka Northland

Bunicken proposes an embassy again, following the closure a month ago. What is the opinion in the streets of The Mystical Council?

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:Bunicken proposes an embassy again, following the closure a month ago. What is the opinion in the streets of The Mystical Council?

This ought to be interesting.

Malcholm

Fiordlandia Ii wrote:I'm returning to NS after a long hiatus, and decided to check out some of the smaller regions. Before, I was just one of hundreds in those large, spammish regions. I find the smaller ones much better. Anyways, I'll just be chillin' over here in 'Mystical Council until the region opens back up.

Welcome friend! :)

Yes, hang out there for awhile. You are very lucky to be on the other side of the fence! We are all locked in this tiny room together. It will be amazing, if we emerge with our sanity after half a month. I am anticipating much negotiating in regard to the constitution.

Although new immigrants won't be able to vote, don't be shy about sharing your own opinions about our proposed constitution. This region has been working on this constitution for over a year. We were originally going to vote on it during Christmas and were nearly done with it last fall. But then things got complicated.....they came out with regional officers. Alas! The great blessing was also a curse! And I extended the deadline by six months. Oh the horror! The agony. But finally, our time has come: We have arrived at our long-awaited, ever-anticipated, much talked about, Glorious, Stupendous, Fabulous, Awesome, FANTASTIC, WONDERFUL, BEAUTIFUL, AND, [I]SPARKLY[/I] Constitution.

*pauses*

I got a little carried away....

Dosh Semiw, Malcholm, Parakka Northland

RP: The Horrible Awful Thing has invaded our flag. Spontaneous street parties have broken out, while protesters block traffic. Florida Man vows to "fight this outrage to the end." /RP

Dosh Semiw, Malcholm, Oakplumington

Announcement:

The entire Lunar Council and Secretary Delegate have been granted border control.

Polls authority has been removed from everyone.

Our Delegate is now non-executive.

Borders are closed.

All of these changes are temporary for the security of the region during our important constitutional vote. Everything will return back to the way it was after the constitutional convention comes to an end in early July. The projected end date is July 4th.

Malcholm, Parakka Northland

I have changed two things. These are not major changes, just technicalities.

"Ratification is tentatively scheduled for the 14 days after the Lunar Council elections in June. This document shall be ratified by, at least two-thirds of Sentagon, at least three-fifths of the Lunar Council, and approval of the Delegate. This constitution will go through another revision process if it fails to get ratified."

Is being changed to:

"Ratification is tentatively scheduled for the 14 days after the Lunar Council elections in June. This document shall be ratified by, at least two-thirds of the votes cast by Sentagon, at least three-fifths of the Lunar Council, and approval of the Delegate. This constitution will go through another revision process if it fails to get ratified."

(Believe it or not those four little words make a big difference. This is to accommodate how Sentagon votes, WA nations get 2 votes and non-WA nations get 1. This has slipped past me for months. I'm surprised I didn't catch it until now.)

-----------

Change #2:

For the same reasons as the above change, Amendment 3 is being changed from this:

"3. If the Lunar Council and the Delegacy ever become overly tyrannical with their power, Sentagon may choose to separate from the main region with the approval of least two-thirds of its members. It will be the responsibility of the President of Sentagon to hand the password to the other members of Sentagon and to create an interim government in the Sentagon region."

to this:

"3. If the Lunar Council and the Delegacy ever become overly tyrannical with their power, Sentagon may choose to separate from the main region with the approval of least two-thirds of the votes cast by its members. It will be the responsibility of the President of Sentagon to hand the password to the other members of Sentagon and to create an interim government in the Sentagon region."

Dosh Semiw, Malcholm

Oakplumington wrote:Welcome friend! :)

Yes, hang out there for awhile. You are very lucky to be on the other side of the fence! We are all locked in this tiny room together. It will be amazing, if we emerge with our sanity after half a month. I am anticipating much negotiating in regard to the constitution.

Although new immigrants won't be able to vote, don't be shy about sharing your own opinions about our proposed constitution. This region has been working on this constitution for over a year. We were originally going to vote on it during Christmas and were nearly done with it last fall. But then things got complicated.....they came out with regional officers. Alas! The great blessing was also a curse! And I extended the deadline by six months. Oh the horror! The agony. But finally, our time has come: We have arrived at our long-awaited, ever-anticipated, much talked about, Glorious, Stupendous, Fabulous, Awesome, FANTASTIC, WONDERFUL, BEAUTIFUL, AND, [I]SPARKLY[/I] Constitution.

*pauses*

I got a little carried away....

Haha, I'd much rather be in the room where all the action is, even if I can't vote.

Oooh spaaarklyyy. I love sparkles!!! Just put glitter glue all over the Constitution, that should work... right??

Oakplumington

As the regional Fun Officer, I made a super cliché poll, feel free to vote in it: http://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=61955

Oakplumington

Fiordlandia Ii wrote:Haha, I'd much rather be in the room where all the action is, even if I can't vote.

Oooh spaaarklyyy. I love sparkles!!! Just put glitter glue all over the Constitution, that should work... right??

*Stops breathing*

*Remembers how to breathe*

(*...and everything about fine dining*)

How could you!? It's ruined! I'm going to rub off as much as I can.

Oh no! It looks worse!

Fiordlandia Ii wrote:As the regional Fun Officer, I made a super cliché poll, feel free to vote in it: http://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=61955

I'm a huge fan of Gary Johnson, I voted for him in 2012. I'm not usually a big fan of the Republicans who seem to spend just as much as the Democrats, but there is something about the Donald that I like. He tells it like it is and it looks like he is going to take on both the Democrats and the Republicans. He is largely self-funded and he is an outsider to politics. That's what I like about him. I'll vote for him once. If the budget isn't balanced in four years, then I'll go back to third party voting. I just hope crooked Hillary loses.

Oakplumington wrote:I'm a huge fan of Gary Johnson, I voted for him in 2012. I'm not usually a big fan of the Republicans who seem to spend just as much as the Democrats, but there is something about the Donald that I like. He tells it like it is and it looks like he is going to take on both the Democrats and the Republicans. He is largely self-funded and he is an outsider to politics. That's what I like about him. I'll vote for him once. If the budget isn't balanced in four years, then I'll go back to third party voting. I just hope crooked Hillary loses.

I agree mostly, however I've lost a lot of faith in The Donald recently. He's simply gone too far, he doesn't know when he needs to close his mouth. I can't vote, but if I would I would probably vote for him to try and keep Hillary from winning. However although I'd vote for him, I support Gary more (if that makes any sense at all).

But I definitely love Trump for challenging (and beating) the party. After watching too much House of Cards, I hate both parties because of how powerful the establishment is.

Another politician I actually like is Rand Paul. He works with both Democrats and Republicans. Unlike most politicians he is actually driven by beliefs, not by greed. He doesn't always do what the party wants him too.

Also, everyone keep an eye out for polls in the Mystical Council. I'll try to have a new one up every day or so. Tomorrow: Waffles vs. Pancakes

I would like to announce that the government of Rrepaimziaraseh will be voting in less than two days for a candidates in the current election, form the selection of candidates who have embraced and honored the great and mighty Primitive Spongebob.

As it stands, the following candidates have honored the all powerful bringer of truth:

Everloyal

Au912_Mystical_Council_Consulate

Fezchia

May the blessings of SpongBob be onto you all.

FYI, after reviewing this version of the proposed constitution: http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=587227 , I have found it acceptable and plan to support it. Whether I will do so as a member of The Lunar Council or Sentagon will be up to the voters.

Parakka Northland

I have a few questions about the Constitution.

1. "When voting on legislation, a constitutional amendment, a treaty, or impeachment of a member of the Lunar Council, the nations of Sentagon carrying World Assembly status shall have two votes. Nations not carrying World Assembly status shall have one vote.

Why do WA-members get higher status than non-WA members? I don't exactly find that fair. Is it just to encourage people to join the WA?

2. Just to clarify: the Sentagon is just all members of TMC who aren't in the Lunar Council and not the Delegate? So I'll be a member of the Sentagon once the region opens up? And does the Sentagon include the Delegate's cabinet or not?

3. Why all the restrictions against the founder? As long as he doesn't abuse his position as founder shouldn't he also be able to partake in regional government?

Forestavia

Fiordlandia Ii wrote:I have a few questions about the Constitution.

1. "When voting on legislation, a constitutional amendment, a treaty, or impeachment of a member of the Lunar Council, the nations of Sentagon carrying World Assembly status shall have two votes. Nations not carrying World Assembly status shall have one vote.”

Why do WA-members get higher status than non-WA members? I don't exactly find that fair. Is it just to encourage people to join the WA?

It's to encourage people to join the WA as proof that they aren't puppets. If you don't like the WA you can create a nation purely for the purpose of voting.

Fiordlandia Ii wrote:2. Just to clarify: the Sentagon is just all members of TMC who aren’t in the Lunar Council and not the Delegate? So I'll be a member of the Sentagon once the region opens up?

Yes, after a 48-hour waiting period.

Fiordlandia Ii wrote:And does the Sentagon include the Delegate's cabinet or not?

Yes, except for the delegate.

Fiordlandia Ii wrote:3. Why all the restrictions against the founder? As long as he doesn’t abuse his position as founder shouldn’t he also be able to partake in regional government?

The founder's vision is that this region would be unique in that it would have an active founder, but the residents, not the founder, would be the primary authority.

Forestavia

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate wrote:It's to encourage people to join the WA as proof that they aren't puppets. If you don't like the WA you can create a nation purely for the purpose of voting.

Ah okay it's a verification thing.

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate wrote:The founder's vision is that this region would be unique in that it would have an active founder, but the residents, not the founder, would be the primary authority.

Yes but that doesn't mean he can't have some say, right?

Forestavia

Fiordlandia Ii wrote:Yes but that doesn't mean he can't have some say, right?

He does have some say. The Founder is nominally a member of the Sentagon, and has emergency powers as specified in the constitution. In addition, I think you will find Oakplumington is highly respected here and his guidance carries significant weight.

Forestavia

BORDER CONTROL!?

:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Forestavia

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate wrote:He does have some say. The Founder is nominally a member of the Sentagon, and has emergency powers as specified in the constitution. In addition, I think you will find Oakplumington is highly respected here and his guidance carries significant weight.

Ah okay.

we said not to close the embassy with red harbor god damnit why cant you all listen...

Order Of Hospitallers wrote:we said not to close the embassy with red harbor god damnit why cant you all listen...

Only one person said not to close it, and he gave no reason. So what is the reason? What is the nature of connection that TMC has with Red Harbor? It just seems like yet another dead region to me, but then again there can something about I don't know of. So do tell us what good reason there is to keep the embassy with them.

Malcholm

That Hydra guy, anyone know him and should we kick him out?

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate wrote:RP: The Horrible Awful Thing has invaded our flag. Spontaneous street parties have broken out, while protesters block traffic. Florida Man vows to "fight this outrage to the end." /RP

[B]RP

We have closed our boarders, we will not be invaded by the sponge and have requested reinforcements fron our main territory located in the Solar Alliance Parakka.

The sun is eternal, so is Parakka

Forestavia

To add on to what AU912 said, I have this.

Fiordlandia Ii wrote:I have a few questions about the Constitution.

1. "When voting on legislation, a constitutional amendment, a treaty, or impeachment of a member of the Lunar Council, the nations of Sentagon carrying World Assembly status shall have two votes. Nations not carrying World Assembly status shall have one vote.”

Why do WA-members get higher status than non-WA members? I don't exactly find that fair. Is it just to encourage people to join the WA?

2. Just to clarify: the Sentagon is just all members of TMC who aren’t in the Lunar Council and not the Delegate? So I'll be a member of the Sentagon once the region opens up? And does the Sentagon include the Delegate's cabinet or not?

3. Why all the restrictions against the founder? As long as he doesn’t abuse his position as founder shouldn’t he also be able to partake in regional government?

3. I hold the most power here as founder therefore I should get the most restrictions. An example, I recently tried to sweep in a vast voter fraud policy with the wave of one hand. This region was very lucky that Delegate New Bacon noticed and drew attention to the my blatant trampling of our working constitution. I should not have the power to legislate single-handedly no matter how much I believe in something.

What power to I hold? I am a WA member of Sentagon and hold emergency powers to help the region fight back raids.

2. Sentagon is just all members of TMC who aren’t in the Lunar Council and not the Delegate? Yes

So I'll be a member of the Sentagon once the region opens up? Yes

And does the Sentagon include the Delegate's cabinet or not? Yes and no. The Delegate is allowed to appoint both Sentagon members and Lunar Council members to their cabinet.

1. Why do WA-members get higher status than non-WA members? I don't exactly find that fair. Is it just to encourage people to join the WA?

I actually wrote about this a few weeks ago and luckily I found the post.

Forestavia wrote:The theory behind giving WA members in Sentagon two votes, as opposed to one vote for non-members, is that it does three things:

* It provides incentive for more nations to keep their WA status here which keeps the region active.

* It keeps the executive powers of the Delegate in check. An Executive Delegacy is far less likely to abuse their power when that power depends on the endorsements of WA nations. Because of the 2-vote incentive, there will always be WA nations here.

* It also prevents the development of hierarchy where Sentagon is viewed as lower than the other two branches. Instead, the Delegate is forced to work directly with Sentagon, which most of the WA nations are members of.

Is this system fair to non-WA nations?

Yes. This system honors freedom of choice and a nation's self-determination. If ever there is a vote that a non-WA member feels passionately about, they are free to transfer WA status temporarily to their resident nation and cast two votes. They are also free to not join the WA at all. It is fair because each individual has control over how they represent themselves, so long as the separation of the three branches is honored.

Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:That Hydra guy, anyone know him and should we kick him out?

He's good. I recognize him. He's been a member of Sentagon in the past.

The border control is just a deterrent. If someone gets their hands on the password and a bunch of random nations we don't know start coming in and voting on the constitution, we will eject them and change the password.

Malcholm

Plugo wrote:BORDER CONTROL!?

:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Yes. :)

*Suddenly gets serious look*

But this is serious border control. It isn't like April fools day when everyone had border control and we banned people just for fun. This is for regional security during the vote.

Malcholm, Fascism Vector

Okay I get it now, thanks for the clarification :)

Forestavia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland

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