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Region: The Mystical Council
yes
Oakplumington
Indeed it is. But I just took time off during thanksgiving.
*Rolls up sleeves*
Terran Flux, Parakka Northland
Yes
RIP illfated
Alistia, Terran Flux
Hm. Looks like I messed up the timing of the poll. I wanted it to end today. No matter. The election starts tomorrow.
well I'm here....
Oakplumington, Exotic Lemon
Welcome back! It's good to see you again. :)
Terran Flux
One more vote in favor of the repeal will send the current legislation to the Emperor.
Terran Flux
i vote in favor!
Oakplumington
*Starts non-stop howling*
Oakplumington
After the election, I'll be posting a series of polls (open to all residents and lasting 2 days each) measuring favorability vs. unfavorability under the new government. You'll have a chance to rate me, the delegate, the Lunar Council, and even the nobility.
Gyuamno, Alistia, Alpha Wolf
I'll make a note of this. Once the election results are official then I'll add you to the list.
Alistia, Alpha Wolf
Thanks Alpha!
*Listens to the beautiful sound of wolves howling*
Alpha Wolf
I write in myself
Alpha Wolf, Exotic Lemon
But you're already on the Lunar Council. Do you really want to waste the vote?
Gyuamno, Alistia, Alpha Wolf
Alpha Wolf
I sure hope I'm on the nobility list! :-)
Oakplumington, Terran Flux
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Yep! Everyone with a WA is part of the nobility. Time to get noble!
Gyuamno
With Gyuamno's election, his vote in favor of the repeal of The Battle Guard counts and the repeal passes the Lunar Council 4-0 with 3 not voting.
Now it goes to the desk of Emperor Terran Flux for a signature or veto.
Gyuamno
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=912672
The Immortal Elysium, did you pick Terran Flux for this BOW program thingy. I forgot if anything definite was decided or not.
Wheres the poll about our review of you and the government?
Oakplumington
Yep, it was Terran
Uh guys kazukame is back
Oakplumington
I'll sign it
Oakplumington
Ah, I just ooze nobility! It's good to finally be recognized as such... Thanks, Oakmeister!
Oakplumington
Alpha Wolf, Terran Flux
*Giggles*
I've been slacking! HAHAHA!
Go get him, Lemon! We need Kazukame! The future depends on Kazukame, the return of Mugwop, and the resurrection of Illfated.
We're going to be a happy family again! ;)
Alpha Wolf
Are you in favor of repealing Greater Cuba's regional Anthem?
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=republic_of_greater_cuba/detail=factbook/id=698486
(A yes vote indicates being in favor of the repeal. A no vote indicates being against the repeal.)
Lunar Council Members:
Malcholm (Yes)
New Bacon ()
Terran Flux (Nay)
Alistia (Yes)
Parakka Northland (Yes)
The Immortal Elysium (Yes)
Gyuamno (Yes)
Currently: 5 - 1 with 1 not voting.
Status: PASSED by the Lunar Council
Delegate Emperor Terran Flux: VETOED
Does the Lunar Council wish to attempt to override the Delegate's veto by sending the repeal to the Nobility?
Yes indicates in favor of sending the repeal to the Nobility (stands ground against the delegate).
No indicates against sending the repeal to the Nobility (acquiesces to the veto of the Delegate Emperor).
Lunar Council Members:
Currently: 0 - 0 with 7 not voting.
(This post will be updated as the Lunar Council members cast their votes.)
Yes
Aye
Ay
I vote nay
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Aye
The Regional Anthem Repeal has been passed by the Lunar Council. Now it is up to our Emperor to figure out what to do with it.
I have a 22.9% approval rating! Wahoo! I think I might be doing better than the United States Congress. ;)
We will do our Delegate Emperor next.
I want to veto it
Parakka Northland
@Oakplumington what's the process for the LC to overturn the Delegate's veto?
Alistia, Oakplumington, Parakka Northland
I vote yes
Sorry I have been inactive after being elected!
Bad Gyuamno :-(
Alistia, Oakplumington
I totally missed this post! Haha!
To get the 4th F you gotta get lucky! ;) Hehe
Alistia
Let me sleep on this. I'll come up with something very soon.
Edit: Ok. That's enough sleep. There are a few different ways we can handle this. We have to figure out which method we like. I might set up a poll with these three options depending on how the discussion goes.:
The First Way: The veto cannot be overridden. The Delegate is the last say on legislation. The people may put pressure on the Nobility to change their endorsements so that the Lunar Council could try passing it with another Delegate.
The Second Way: The Lunar Council passes a Veto Override with a simple majority - essentially a vote to send the legislation to the Nobility. A four-day poll should be made accessible to WA nations only. It should be scheduled to close between the minor and major updates so that R/D players can also participate in the poll by moving their WA over right before the poll closes.
The Third Way: The Lunar Council can vote to send it to the Founder. The Founder will either sign or veto.
Gyuamno, Malcholm, Parakka Northland
How dare you miss a vote!
*Pulls out paddle*
Come here. *Says in authoritative tone*
Gyuamno, Terran Flux
Sorry Daddy Oak!
I like the third way, it's a lot simpler and avoids stupid polls!
Second way
We'll be ice fishing this weekend. Drop by The Bear Country RMB, grab an ice cold Mommabeer, and see if you can snatch yourself a salmon. The perfect starter for Christmas. See you there!
Alistia, Pyrosky
The region is at the lowest activity point its ever had due to your stupid emergency.
Lift the emergency and restore the executive delegacy or I and others resign, and the region will officially be dead.
Pyrosky, Exotic Lemon
ultim8um bby
Alistia
^
What he said.
This cannot stand.
Alistia
You claim there is no activity, but you have not once posted on the regional message board!
-> claims no activity
--> is someone who isn't active
---> Good work!
and speak for yourself, BIG DADDY GYUAMNO IS NOT RESIGNING BABY.
oh and I'm the big bad delegate again... sweeping reforms stay tuned, I'll be working close with Oak to restore the region!
Oakplumington, Terran Flux
Great let's increase our activity! Where's that updated copy of the EPA?
I can't help but notice that the second you take charge of the Delegacy, Alistia and company are up in arms. I have no idea why this always happens.
Give Big Daddy Gyuamno a chance people!
Gyuamno
The only problem I have with the third way is that I already have too much power. I control the entire judicial branch plus I already have executive power that automatically comes from the founder office, and I also have the power to break a tie on the Lunar Council. I don't think it would be a very good balance of power to give me a role in overriding a veto. That should be left up to the Nobility as stated in the option 1 (via endorsements) or as stated in option 2 (through the power of the vote). I like options 1 and 2 equally.
Gyuamno
The emergency will not be lifted until the end of April.
The delegacy will be granted executive power on January 1st.
Embassies authority will be granted January 1st.
Parakka Northland
Gyuamno, I just realized I never appointed you to the Lunar Council! I've been slacking. Sorry. My turn to get paddled next, eh?
Gyuamno, Parakka Northland
Would you like a Secretary Delegate? It is optional. You do not need one if you don't want one.
If you do, do you want to keep Malcholm as your Secretary Delegate or would you like to appoint someone else?
You are allowed to change Secretary Delegates as frequently as you wish and grant them whatever powers you choose (including embassies authority starting on January 1st.)
Gyuamno
Announcement:
The next favorability poll will be for the Lunar Council overall. I'm not sure whether it's necessary to do one for each individual Lunar Council member. It's up for discussion. There hasn't been much discussion about anything, though. Kind of like talking to a wall. But if you listen closely, some walls have very interesting opinions about things! ;)
When the state of emergency does expire, non-WA nations may have a chance to participate in the polls again (if it's something we want). There is so much to discuss right now but I want to know if it is the desire of the region to readopt these policies. I'm looking way ahead to May.:
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=parakka_northland/detail=factbook/id=762848
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=880470
If it is, then we should consider voting on them. I'm not going to end the state of emergency until we have a well-oiled fully functioning TMC again. To be clear, these laws will not go into effect again until May. I want to make sure we're able to function and not limp along like we did for the past year.
Its an honor to have u be my successor big daddy G. Make Communist Council gr8 again
Malcholm, Oakplumington, Exotic Lemon
Huh...well...saying we resign brings activity :P
Alistia, Malcholm, Terran Flux, Exotic Lemon
Unrelated but I like the flag
Malcholm, Terran Flux
That's how it works, generally.
That's not really the issue 😒 it's more of a self-determined declaration of a separation of interests. TMC feels like two communities mashed into one. There's the on-site bunch and the off-site bunch; ones who
dedicated themselves to the Council, and the ones who built the Monarchy from the ashes and rubble of nations past. And as much as we try, there's no real in-between.
Exotic Lemon
I don't want to talk to much about it right now, BUT I've been preparing for a possible region split for awhile now. Of course it would be preferable to keep everyone united but times do change sometimes - I can't deny it. If the secessionists could hang with us for another two months, I'll hopefully have some good news for you. If anyone feels they can't stay any longer, though, then you are free to leave. You always have been. These are tough times for the region. There's no doubt about it. It's never been this bad before.
To be fair to myself though, I also have to say that there has been very little discussion about things I've asked the region to discuss. It almost seems like many have already given up. But maybe I'm misinterpreting. Could be a hibernation of sorts. But still I deserve some credit. I ended the power struggles. I brought the chaos under control. Many of our traditions are still being honored. We have a working constitution again, for the first time since 2015, I'll add. So we've made enormous progress in a short amount of time.
Malcholm, Alpha Wolf
By the way, congratulations to Terran Flux! He scored 31/56 securing a 55.4% approval rating from the region (That's double what I got! hehe).
Let's wish our Former Delegate the best of luck in all future political endeavors. With an approval rating that high, I wouldn't be surprised to see Terran back in the Delegate's seat in the future.
Terran Flux
i think the poll ends too close to update.
Malcholm, Oakplumington
Yeah, I noticed that. That was my mistake. Here's what will do - just this once because I messed up.
1. The R/D people still have to bring their WA here to the region so that it shows up on the activity page.
2. Then send me a telegram explaining that you're on a mission.
I'm going to send a mass telegram out about this, too. Sorry everyone. I was up late last night and didn't even realize the time. I won't schedule the poll like that again.
Edit: If anyone's confused about the telegram I sent out send me a telegram to Oak or Forest. I'm going to probably chill for the rest of the night and do some RP in Solar Alliance. New Wondour's probably wondering what happened to me.
How are you qualifying #2? Are we expected to divulge the details of the mission we're on, or send you a TG that says "out tagging/chasing/piling"? Feels like there should be a better way of doing this.
And speaking of piling, are we expected to have out WA make an appearance even if we're piling for the duration of a poll?
The 'chaos'was literally just activity and debate about policies and such, but you damn are right when you say you ended that.
No, No, no, no classified stuff is needed I don't need that. I just.
Let me give an example. It might be easier to explain.
Player 1 is scheduled to do military stuff the night the poll closes but Player 1 can't vote because your crazy founder scheduled the poll wrong. This is how we can handle this:
Player 1 is required to bring WA status to TMC for a few seconds so that the activity page records that Player 1 actually has a WA. (That is to say that Player 1 must resign or join the WA at some point that evening.) Player 1 is also required to send me a telegram saying something like, "Hey, my WA has been recorded on the activity page. I'm doing military stuff tonight. I want to vote for option X. Have a nice evening, Oak."
Then I will put your vote on the RMB. "Player 1 has informed me that they are involved in military duties tonight. They have voted for option X. [Copy and past activity page proof here]." Boom. All done. Your votes will be counted and you'll be free to do military stuff.
And we will never have to do it this way again because I'll be much more careful about when I post polls.
Does that make sense?
I'm really trying to avoid cancelling the poll and creating a new poll but I guess that's an option too. Last I checked no one voted. I could just pick up where we left off with a 3 day poll.
Malcholm
The region was spiraling out of control. In part, because we were operating on a framework instead of something a little more solid. I was hoping that the framework would have developed into something with complete sentences but it never did. The region never wanted to adopt Bacon's constitution. But I do have to give you credit, Alistia. I expected us to be in this situation six months ago. So you and AU912's framework was pretty good. Not just the framework but the fine nations that make up this region. We lasted a year without a constitution. It's kind of impressive if you think about it.
But it wasn't a solid foundation and now we are at a point where the region is ready to split. Just remember. I didn't cause this. I don't think anyone really did. This is just the cycle of the life of a region. Right now we're dying and we have to either come to terms of splitting up, accept it, and be ok with it, or we have to find the inspiration to unite once more under a new and different (but similar) system of government. I didn't break the region. I'm doing what I can to save whatever parts of the region I can. The day will come when I will loosen my grip on power. But we've got to tackle these repeals first. After we gut the region of everything we don't want then we can begin the arduous task of rebuilding and rediscovering what TMC is all about.
Thanks Oaky Oakmeister! You have always believed in me, I will not let you (all) down! You can count on me, or my name isn't big daddy!
*puts on reading spectacles* yes, yes I will have to review the options and I will give another opinion. I was unaware of your powers (whoops), but polls are the darndest thing, I hate them!!
hehehe i know someone who has a paddle ;)
I want his most excellency Terran Flux as my Secretary Delegate!
Malcholm, Oakplumington, Terran Flux
Hey guys
I will be back in a week
Malcholm, Terran Flux, Parakka Northland
See you soon lemon man!
Malcholm, Terran Flux, Parakka Northland
It was nice serving o7
Terran Flux, Exotic Lemon
0_0
Hai! o/
Malcholm, Terran Flux
Oakmeister and I will be meeting this week to figure how best to move forward!
Oakplumington
With one foot in front of the other, of course.
Malcholm
FOUR SCORE AND SEVEN YEARS AGO
Alpha Wolf
Lincoln Logs are pretty neat
Malcholm, Alpha Wolf
Boo
Merry Christmas Eve, what are you knuckle heads up to?
Oakplumington, Parakka Northland
Getting ready for the big day lol you?
Gyuamno, Oakplumington
Ho ho ho! I hope Chris Cringle was awfully nice to you this year Parakka.
Same here, a lot of snacks have been consumed in the name of Christmas!
Oakplumington, Parakka Northland
Its my birthday
:)
Malcholm, Oakplumington, Alpha Wolf, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
Merry Christmas & Happy birthday! My birthday is in a few days. :)
Oakplumington, Terran Flux, Parakka Northland
In lieu of Oakmeisters absence, we shall progress forward!
Is anyone interested in roleplay? Terran Flux? We can bring the Warzone TMC roleplay here to boost activity!
Or should we work on structuring our new government for the new year after the emergency declaration has ended? So many possibilities, what should we do folks?
Oakplumington, Alpha Wolf, Exotic Lemon
Any legislation you two!?
Where are the roleplay and map!?
How are foreign relations!?
What is the state of our culture!?
How are the BOW relations!?
Let me know what you people are up to, you were elected for a reason!! Otherwise, BIG DADDY will drain the swamp and you can find yourself a new job (picking up trash!)! I'll get more interested Lunar Councilmembers to help this place!
Oakplumington
Happy belated Birthday.
Happy Birthday.
Oakplumington
We have a RP channel on our Discord. Contact [nation=short]The Wolf Federation[/nation] if you like to set one up
Oakplumington
Things with BOW are fine. And I'm open to roleplay
Gyuamno, Oakplumington
In terms of culture well, it’s getting back to the way it used to be in a small way with the election cycle coinciding with the various moons
Gyuamno, Oakplumington
Thanks for sharing the updates! We will work closely to build upon our current state!
As for the other knuckleheads...
>:@
Malcholm, Oakplumington
I think writing and passing legislation lost priority when we lost the power to govern. Sure, we could be, but I'd rather be devoting my time and effort to places where I know it'll have a positive effect--i.e., being part of and participating in warden command and rebuilding my own region.
Alistia, New Bacon
Malcholm
We have no powers to do anything.
New Bacon, Exotic Lemon
https://www.nationstates.net/page=region_control/region=the_mystical_council
The Administration page begs to differ. The fact that you are both members of the Lunar Council grants you the right to legislate which by definition is governing.
But if you guys are unhappy here then leave. Contact Alpha Wolf. Alpha has a pretty solid plan for a merge. TMC isn't merging but if enough of us leave for Alpha's region then perhaps TMC can become an autonomous colony of The Wolf Clan.
*Grumbles* Something something Merry Christmas ththejha;ltkjatijhjant;akghjjs;kalasmfv;ek;jkant;klj....
Gyuamno, Alpha Wolf
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