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Region: The Mystical Council
Normally my ears would be bleeding by now. But I'm so used to listening to pointless whining in this region that air horns don't phase me anymore.
Gyuamno
Someone call the People's Mystical Communist Fire Brigade! There was a roast!
Good thing we still have a FIRE CHIEF, eh?
Alistia
The Supreme Soviet abolishes such a position! Terran is to head the Fire Brigade!
We'll give Alistia a nice retirement package after he teaches Terran everything he knows about the wrath of volcanoes.
Alistia
Excellent, your 401k has been maxed so you have a fat stack to retire on!
I'm going to sleep and think of new reforms for us! Farewell Comrades, until tomorrow!
Me too. I'm sure the next 24 hours will be quite interesting. I'm particularly interested to see Parakka's, Lemon's, and Malcholm's reaction.
[nation=short]Parakka[/nation], [nation=short]Malcholm[/nation], and [nation=short]Exotic Lemon[/nation] when you log on just ignore everything Gyuamno and I did after this post:
I kinda lost it. If you just want to give up on the reforms I wouldn't blame you guys. However you want to handle this is fine with me. You're the President, Prime Minister, and Chief Justice, the top three leaders in our region. I could pull the all-powerful founder card and strongarm the region if necessary. It's times like this when we need leadership. And sometimes it needs to be the stronk kind.
Alistia, Parakka Northland
The poll said Border, Domestic, and Foreign Affairs
Border is the Defense ministry.
Domestic is the Domestic Affairs ministry.
Foreign Affairs is the Foreign Affairs ministry.
How exactly did you from this that we are merging foreign and defense?
Alistia, Parakka Northland
I tried to buy the note 7 but because if that same reason, I bought an iPhone instead.
I'm just going to ignore all of that....
Gyuamno, Alistia
I reread Parakka's most last post on the subject. Somehow I missed it, but defense is given its own office. I could've sworn that Border Control was to be granted to the Court as they would also serve in the capacity of border guards. But apparently this other interpretation seems just as valid given what I've found on the RMB.
[nation=short]Exotic Lemon[/nation], [nation=short]Parakka[/nation], and [nation=short]Malcholm[/nation], how to you feel about Mugwop's interpretation. It is reasonable. My interpretation was that regional security was something of an international concern so I lumped Foreign Affairs together with Defense as they are basically performing two jobs that could be done by a single office. Mugwop is saying the Border Security should have it's own officer. I need an executive decision from you three on this matter. Preferably 2 votes out of three, but unanimous would look even better.
I'm also taking polls off of Alistia after last night's stunt. This will be temporary. If two of you don't sign off on it within 48 hours, I will grant Alistia his powers back. The polls are going to be busy over the next few weeks, my goal is to have the region vote for or against a variety of reforms with minimal interruption.
Gyuamno
Sorry Comrade! Maybe I'll appoint you again someday soon as Supreme Soviet.
Gyuamno
Alistia has a place at the government, you DO NOT.
Exotic Lemon, Alistia, Parakka Northland, Illfated, New Bacon, Malcholm, Terran Flux
We should probably resume out the talks of relocating to a new region. I knew this was too good to be true. Yeah Forest brought Oak back, but it looks like he brought Oak to screw sh!t up again.
Alistia
Go ahead! Start a new region! I'll just reappoint Comrade Gyuamno in the face of this protest. I can protest too you know! Supreme Soviet Gyuamno will straighten this region out. Maybe I dismissed him too soon. I thought maybe we could have a reasonable discussion. I'm know I'm not crazy. There was a post somewhere on this RMB that suggested giving border control to the court which is an elected position and remove border control from the appointed non-elected border officers. I'm just trying to keep our region democratic.
Gyuamno, Alistia
Oh, and by the way. I was just helping out our Prime Minister because Parakka and I both know how hard it is to accomplish stuff in this region. So I figured "What's the point of having Oak back if I can't help the Prime Minister out." Our region is in crisis and I have emergency powers to assist in situations like this. We need to vote on these reforms.
May the Red light guide you in all your decisions Mighty Oak!
Terran Flux
Attention Please!
WE ARE CURRENTLY ON LOCKDOWN AS THE CRISIS HAS REACHED EPIC PROPORTIONS. THIS REGION WILL FUNCTION UNDER THE EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP OF [nation=short]Malcholm[/nation] our Chief Justice, [nation=short]Exotic Lemon[/nation] our Delegate, and [nation=short]Parakka[/nation] our Prime Minister UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. The founder retains the ability to issue emergency executive orders during this time.
Do not be alarmed! Everything will be ok. We will be making some reforms over the next few days. We will follow the guidance of our regional leaders. Despite murmurings of a civil war and refounding the region we will remain united! We are in danger of fragmenting. We must remember the divine light within us and remain true to it. There was a reason we were brought together. There is still a reason to remain together. Now it is time to make a great leap of faith and remember that we can overcome anything as a region. We can do it together!
Gyuamno, Parakka Northland
What is going on?
Malcholm
I'm instating order by force until we make the transition.
I'm suppressing any attempt to divide the region during this time as well. This could be construed as a violation of freedom of speech but these are dangerous times. Freedom will be restored shortly.
Gyuamno
I sure have to had to read a lot today
Gyuamno
While I think that it is chaotic right now, I am not ready to jump ship. Mugwop, you are our best domestic affairs person we probably ever had. I trust that you will help save the region, along with everyone else involved mentioned above. I urge us to try again.
I do ask that you refrain from emergency orders unless necessary, so lets not lose our heads.
Here are some things I think we need to get done:
Citizenship should be clearly updated (thanks Malcholm) and I ask no more temporary citizenship will be given out.
The government seems to be in shambles. We need to make a decision in a more concise poll.
Forest, you need to decide if you want to be emperor again: it kind of unofficially passed to me for a while. If so, take action.
I would like opinions on the lc being our border control officers.
We need to decide what officer positions merge with what in a poll.
Forestavia, Alistia, New Bacon, Malcholm
This is somewhat ironic in it is somewhat divisive. But that is okay, I ain't mad. I ask the region stays unified in the face of reforms.
Malcholm
I got a Note 8!
Alistia, New Bacon, Malcholm, Terran Flux, Parakka Northland
I have absolutely no interest in saving anything when there is an active destruction agent on the loose.
And now he has granted himself Emperor powers, even though the Judicial Branch ruled to abolish the position.
Until Forest removes his undemocratic, unelected, and against regional ruling postion from the government, and stop meddling with the region from Oak, I for one am in protest and not an active minister.
Alistia
As you wish. I will have to agree with you, I consider forest's emergency powers to be unconstitutional and unfair. He willingly gave up his powers and now he wants them back.
Alistia
Don’t worry got the note 8 now ;)
I’ll have a think (plus still need to read 70 odd messages) ..... though upon reading more of the RMB it seems that there has been a little confusion that being over the titles regarding which positions would be remaining or going. I did explain at the time I chose three titles that best described what sort of objective they would have but it was something we could negotiate over tbh. Mind the above depends if I have read and understood the issues in 40 of the 75 RMB messages....
I suggested giving the court officials border control. I did post a couple of days ago if my reform ideas took hold and where implemented.
Defence minister will be merged with border minister, under a dedicated role idea.
Gyuamno
At the risk of causing a slight arguement, whilst I see and understand both your points of view, you wanted a Founder back, and now he is and your complaining about him issuing executive orders which can be over ruled by you Lemon as delegate
After reading this I can fully understand forest reaction.
Gyuamno, Forestavia
The old postion of Emperor and issuing executive orders was abolished by court.
The ruling was that Forest is to restore Oak and use if and only if someone usurps the delegate postion and starts attacking the region.
Beyond that, if he wanted to be part of the government, he had to run for an elected office, not just do whatever the hell he wants.
Alistia
No need to worry. I don't plan on starting an argument. I am glad he is back, but his new executive orders are more radical than I have hoped. I have not overturned them yet because I want to give them a chance, but right now I think they are just adding to controversy.
Parakka Northland
I am more concerned with the fact he just gave everyone emergency powers without consent. I also disagree with his suspension of some freedoms.
New Bacon, Parakka Northland
Then remove him from his office. You are fully within your right to stop this blatant abuse of power.
Alistia, New Bacon
I am very tempted to. I would like to hear some opinions before I dismiss him.
New Bacon
it's adorable all of you like to ask each other for permission to do things :-)
WHERE'S YOUR DAMN BACKBONE!
Forestavia, Terran Flux
APPOINT GYUAMNO TO SUPREME SOVIET, HE ACTS FIRST AND ASKS QUESTIONS LATER!
Terran Flux
Oakplumington we the people had a vote to merge culture and domestic affairs. I voted against it, the majority voted for it.
No where did it say to merge defense and foreign affairs, you have made this up and you are trying to force it on the people, when we did vote for it!
Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
Patience my child. Your loyalty to the soviet tmc will one day be rewarded. Unfortunately, that is not today.
Gyuamno, Forestavia, Alistia, Parakka Northland
So long as he only uses his Forestavia emergency powers in a state of emergency then I don’t see an issue. After all it’s basically like having a secound fire chief. Maybe he should consider renaming his position?
Mind under either of my reform options both positions and emergency power positions will go, so it’s only a tempary thing.
I probably need to reread the out come of the trial again. Though that does beg the question what role the delegate has? As if there is no more Emperor position then the delegate cannot act without approval from the government. As previously he has been able to act as temporary Emperor or acting emperor of the region. Which if it no longer exists then that means he has no purpose other than a care taker.
Again the above will change under both my proposed reforms of the government. Once that is eventually sorted out
Forestavia, New Bacon
Let’s give him till he is next online to rectify the situation or Exotic Lemon can sort it
Alistia
Forestavia's appointment is illegal.
Him and Gyuamno have also begun heretical worship at a sacred volcano and set tmc on fire.
I need to put the fire out.
I will wait for him. I don't want to make any rash decisions.
I do agree it is confusing on the delegate's power. In the past, I was acting emperor of the region. However, forest clearly wants some of his position back, which puts a huge "?" on my responsibilities.
Parakka Northland
*Since the legitimate republican government has been over thrown, Forestavia's regime flag now flies over the capitol building*
Terran Flux
I'm cool with you waiting and yep it's all confusing. Hency why I decided to make some reforms
This is just so everyone knows my plan and what to expect:
I am mostly agreeing with Mugwop and Parakka Northland's points, they are right in that forest's actions are of questionable legality.
I will give forest the chance to explain himself and make corrections if needed. If democracy continues to be repressed, I will take action and remove forest's emergency powers and either appoint a temporary government consisting of the previously elected members or let the others decide. I do not agree with forestavia's most recent actions, but I think we should at least listen to what he has to say. I will try to avoid making any quick decisions or drastic changes, at least for today and probably tomorrow.
Alistia, Parakka Northland
Now I'm being accused of raiding the region...
I am loving this! Democracy and Freedoms will continue to be suspended for a period of time. We have 3 very powerful, capable leaders who are fully capable of bringing this region through. Now let me remind you that in some regions a lockdown would include a hidden password, loss of delegate executive powers, and where the founder takes absolute and total control. Did I do this? No I didn't. I handed the region to the three top dogs here. (Oh, and let me remind you that you as a region democratically elected them.) Now we will be operating solely under their leadership for the next few weeks until we get through some polls. I am prepared to stand my ground this time. I will match action for action so as to empower these three government officials to see us safely to the other shore.
Thank you [nation=short]Terran Flux[/nation]! You're my hero! You unbanned the founder puppet.
Gyuamno, Terran Flux, Parakka Northland
I didn't make it up. I misread one of Parakka's posts. It was an honest mistake.
Terran Flux, Parakka Northland
Legal under the Emergency Powers. You banned Oak, so I had to appoint myself so that I could do certain things here inside the region. All legal under the current Founder's Decree which, let me remind you, is temporary.
Terran Flux
Let us just assume your legality was 100% legitimate. You still are creating a lot of confusion with this action. Are you emperor, or are you not?
Terran Flux, Parakka Northland
Not everyone. Just you, Prime Minister Parakka, and Chief Justice Malcholm, as well as myself since I'm operating under Emergency Founder powers. Emergency powers are temporary. The suspension of freedoms is also temporary until we get through this trying time. Trust me, I have no intention of being a dictator. This region is based on freedom and democracy.
Parakka Northland
No, I am no longer Emperor. I am a founder who is concerned about this region's stability and as such am accessing emergency powers and distributing such powers to those at the top of leadership.
Parakka Northland
Very well. what I don't understand is why you give us three emergency powers but then try to do your own thing without us
Parakka Northland
Sometimes it helps to give things a little "push".
Parakka Northland
Very well. You have spoken. I don't agree with your emergency powers, but I cannot bring myself to remove you from them yet. I ask you hold off on any drastic changes for now
Parakka Northland
Ok. That sounds good.
Parakka Northland
Can someone explain in concise, accurate words, what is going on?
Parakka Northland
I have issued a series of executive orders under emergency powers for the purpose of maintaining order here in this region until we can complete the reforms that are needed to prevent this region from breaking apart at the seams.
In short, I am imposing martial law "lite" on the region. Hopefully we won't have to go any further than "lite".
And all of this is temporary! (Forgot to include that. That's important to include.)
Parakka Northland
Another way to explain it is basically, we're trying to get organized. Things look messy right now but it'll get better.
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Switch my whip, came back in black
I'm startin' sayin', "Rest in peace to Bon Scott"
Close that door, we blowin' smoke
She ask me light a fire like I'm Morrison
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*dab*
👌🔥💯👌
Terran Flux
There is a poll up in the back up region Mystical Council. Please select your political party.
Gyuamno
I'm registering communist this time!
Gyuamno, Terran Flux
Welcome comrade! We meet weekly at the parliament building! Come join us :-)
Forestavia, Terran Flux, Parakka Northland
You keep saying the pm delegate and chief justice are the 3 leaders, yet everything you have done and are doing has been without them asking, and them not agreeing with.
You arent an officer of the region therefore you dont have the authority to declare am emergency.
If you want to be in thr govt, move oak back here.
Stop using forestavia to ruin this region.
Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon, Mugwop
I have stronk coats of communist red paint we can use to vandalize capitalist buildings
Gyuamno, Parakka Northland
Well, now that's quite the assumption. I'm well within my rights. Give them a chance to talk to each other, Alistia! I'm just doing the obvious stuff that needs to be done while we wait for them to take the helm.
In other words, I'm clearing a path for them so that they can go in with confidence and do what needs to be done.
I am an officer since I'm the founder and if this isn't an emergency then I don't know what is.
There are so many ways I could respond to this. Why does it matter what nation I use? And really, ruining the region? Are you serious? This sudden fear of polls that we're experiencing is going to do more to ruin the region than I ever could. I'll be including the poll list in my Executive Decree since it was deleted from the WFE. Democracy depends on the government's ability to go to the people and ask questions. We should not be afraid of questions.
Gyuamno
Down with the power hungry capitalists!
Gyuamno, Terran Flux
Where is this parliament building? I need to pose for pictures! ;)
Gyuamno
Founder or not, you are absolutely not an officer and you have no legitimate powers to make any executive orders anymore. You used to have that privilege through your postion as Emperor, but due to your actions, the court ruled to abolish that. Your actions now are not legitimate in the slightest.
Alistia
I still have powers during the occasional regional emergency.
The 'emergency' you made up in the first place
It's not my fault the elites don't want certain questions to be asked. Parakka asked me to put up some polls to get things moving. I did. You deleted it. I misinterpreted a post about merging two positions. The region lost its mind. So now we will continue under a state of emergency until all suggested poll questions are posted and given a fair chance in the public square. If anyone has a suggestion, telegram me or mention me or get in touch with one of those three leaders. Us four have supreme control of the region right now and all questions regarding these reforms will be answered in due course.
Gyuamno, Parakka Northland
Fireside Chat with the Founder
Ladies and Gentleman,
Our region recently witnessed the beginning of what could have been a complete and total breakdown of social order. Today, the region is under the supreme control of the Founder, the Delegate, the Prime Minister, and the Chief Justice. Together we will prevent chaos from taking root in our homeland. Only through order, patience, and an open-minded willingness to step forward into the future will we survive. I remind my fellow citizens that there is nothing to fear and that democracy and freedom will once more be reinstated at the appropriate time. Thank you for your understanding and for your resolve during these challenging times.
Parakka Northland
No you don't. You really don't. The only occasion that the court has permitted you to use your powers, is if and only if the delegate postion is usurped by someone.
You don't have any legitimate powers anymore, as you have lost the postion of Emperor. The position of emperor has went to the native delegate, ever since your trial concluded.
And now you're trying to make it look that this is all a conspiracy to prevent a poll about the Fire Chief position (even though I was the first to raise it and promised to deal with it later). But the fact is that you are using the poll thing to divert attention from the mess you're trying to make.
Sounds familiar?
Trump: Forestavia
NFL Players: Alistia
Malcholm, Exotic Lemon One of you has got to deal with him. He's out of his bounds.
Alistia
So then.... Can you explain to me why it is so important to keep Oak active?
(Come on! I'm ready to hear some crickets!)
1. To ward off any potential raiders.
2. To take action in the event that someone does raid us and get the delegate postion, or a domestic delegate goes berserk and starts ejecting or banning residents without valid cause (as was the case with Gyuamno)
That's it, that is only it, there are absolutely no other reasons. And so you are not permitted to use Oak for any other purpose, as (due to your actions) your position of Emperor is gone, and you can't make anymore executive orderers. That power is currently with Lemon.
So if you want legitimate powers, you are more than welcome to run for an election.
Alistia
You don't think I could - I don't know - simply bring Oak back to life if we would get raided?
Alistia
"To ward off any potential raiders."
And as I said before, there are plans going on to raid us the moment you CTE
So why attract raiders to attack us by being founderless, and then after we get sacked, you refound Oak? That's ridiculous. That's why the court ruled to keep Oak active, instead of you maybe just gracing us and refounding after we get attacked.
Damn it Forest. You should be better than this.
Alistia, Exotic Lemon
I guess that makes sense. I see where you're coming from. I'm thinking in terms of recruitment. Founder CTE. Our population goes up. And maybe TMC Refounder is one of us. Might be a friend, not a foe.
But getting back to the point. We're under a state of emergency right now regardless of what the law says.
No we are not. You have 0 authority to declare any state of anything.
The State of Emergency Continues
So....you're saying...we're in a state of emergency...because of a poll...and one post about merging positions?
Really?
Alistia
Yep!
Unfortunately it was the region's reaction that really forced my hand on this matter. You've got elected leaders that really want to serve this region and do their jobs and they can't seem to do even the simplest things without boat loads of controversy. Even I, the founder, can't seem to help them out on occasion without everyone getting feisty.
He's claiming we're in state of emergency, because he doesn't want people to question his illegitimate position.
Alistia
Not True!
Gyuamno
I just don't understand the reason for the emergency.
You misinterpreted a post, and made a poll, the citizens, the people of the region reacted, so you declared a state of emergency.....because of the regions reaction.....
And that was supposed to make things better?
Edit: Correct me if I'm wrong, but if they reacted for what I stated above, wouldn't the reaction be worse if you're doing all this?
Alistia
I'm afraid of what would have happened had I not declared a state of emergency.
Correction, we do have a state of emergency: We have a lunatic founder who will charge you with treason, if you choose to challenge the illegal acts he's doing. Yep, that is a state of emergency.
Alistia
The moon's phase this week may be having an effect on me.
Let me suggest instead of spending your time and energy fighting me, why don't you put that time and effort into brainstorming reforms that will fix the problems we're experiencing with our current system of government. I've declared this state of emergency to help us focus on the task at hand. I'm standing my ground on this. Let's spend the better part of the next month voting on polls, debating where we stand on the issues. This state of emergency is not up for discussion.
Oh let's see, here's me brainstorming about stopping corruption in the region:
1. Remove all office powers from Forestavia that you illegally gave yourself.
2. Stop using founder powers when you have no privileges to do so.
Alistia, Malcholm
quietly spray paints the capital building a communist red
Gyuamno, Forestavia, Malcholm
What the hell is going on....
Terran Flux
Jesus Christ forest.....
Forestavia
From what I can tell, Forest used founder actions to make a state of emergency because of how the region reacted to a poll, or something, and Mugwop opposes that because Forest went against the laws, according to him, prohibiting him from using founder abilities in this case.
Alistia, Viva Italia
Well he has no power to declare a state of emergency so mugwops reaction is justified
Fireside!?!? There's a fire!?! Firechief where are you!?
Forestavia
I have the power and I have declared our region's second official State of Emergency as of yesterday.
Terran Flux
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