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Everloyal wrote:Still waiting.

sorry i was off for a second i have a life besides being a government official.

Inca Tribals

Everloyal wrote:If you can not point it out I am logging of in about 10 min.

as you said

" A question from such a person as yourself does not deserve an answer. "

Order Of Hospitallers wrote:as you said

" A question from such a person as yourself does not deserve an answer. "

Fair enough.

Order Of Hospitallers

Everloyal wrote:Yes I have killed free speech some what I do not want touchy subjects spread.

The people will not stand for this!

Forestavia, Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron, Tumetu-Iin Noyan, Order Of Hospitallers

Inca Tribals wrote:The people will not stand for this!

Shall I rephrase that I will not tolerate Classified things to be spread.

Inca Tribals wrote:The people will not stand for this!

Thank you for coming in to support the party.

Everloyal wrote:Shall I rephrase that I will not tolerate Classified things to be spread.

Your not in a governmental position to decide that

Inca Tribals wrote:Your not in a governmental position to decide that

Yes but I am in that position when it comes to the newspaper.

Tumetu-Iin Noyan wrote:Thank you for coming in to support the party.

I will join the anarcho capitalist party

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Tumetu-Iin Noyan, Order Of Hospitallers

Inca Tribals wrote:I will join the anarcho capitalist party

Me too!

Inca Tribals wrote:I will join the anarcho capitalist party

As will I.

Inca Tribals

Seems you are all in a political conflict.

We keep an eye on all embassy regions, a close eye on those in ANTICOM and this situation seems troublesome.

I dont know your regions policy on immigration but many zealots from the viking raiders and steppe tribes nearby are horrified by the conflict and are currently on their way for a temporary migration showing their support.

Greetings to all.

Forestavia, New Bacon, Malcholm, Order Of Hospitallers

Order Of Hospitallers wrote:you will only approve articles that spread your propaganda, and no you removed me completely from the press.

WE NEED FREEDOM OF THE PRESS!

WE NEED FREEDOM OF SPEECH!

OUR FREEDOMS MUST BE PROTECTED!

OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENT!

New Bacon, Oakplumington, Inca Tribals, Order Of Hospitallers

Inca Tribals wrote:I will join the anarcho capitalist party

Me too, that sounds like an awesome party

New Bacon, Inca Tribals, Order Of Hospitallers

Alpha Force wrote:Greetings to all.

greetings

New Bacon

Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron wrote:OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENT!

*realises he is a guest in the region and probably shouldn't be saying these things because he represents ANTICOM and wants to keep popular support in the region*

*realises he doesn't care because coup d'états are fun*

Malcholm, Oakplumington, Order Of Hospitallers

So much over so little hmm well hate to say it but I am part of it. Jeez this anarcho capitalist party sure is getting support.

Tumetu-Iin Noyan

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Well good luck with that I will not join because I do not support that kinda stuff but I do wish you all luck.

Tumetu-Iin Noyan wrote:glad to have you here!

:D

we will vote for positions in the party soon, probably just 1 or 2 chairmen positions.

So far members are:

Tumetu-iin Noyan

Castlemaine 1st Air Squadron

Inca Tribals

Everloyal

Order of Hospitallers

AU912

Sorry but I did not mean I would join sorry about the confusion.

Excuse me Hospitallers what is your reason for suppressing my posts?

New Bacon, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Order Of Hospitallers

Everloyal wrote:Excuse me Hospitallers what is your reason for suppressing my posts?

What is your reason for suppressing the newspaper?

New Bacon

Just so you know, ANTICOM is neutral is the current election, we do not intervene in regions internal affairs and elections. My vote for Malcholm does not represent ANTICOM's stance (which is neutral), but mine as a resident of the region.

Malcholm has worked very hard and done a lot for this region, and his presence is highly beneficial. He singlehandedly cleaned up the mess left behind by TRF after the raid (which, believe me, takes forever 'cos you have to do a tonne of stuff manually). To keep it short: Malcholm is a vital member of this region, and he does a lot.

Forestavia, New Bacon, Malcholm, Order Of Hospitallers

Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron wrote:Just so you know, ANTICOM is neutral is the current election, we do not intervene in regions internal affairs and elections. My vote for Malcholm does not represent ANTICOM's stance (which is neutral), but mine as a resident of the region.

Malcholm has worked very hard and done a lot for this region, and his presence is highly beneficial. He singlehandedly cleaned up the mess left behind by TRF after the raid (which, believe me, takes forever 'cos you have to do a tonne of stuff manually). To keep it short: Malcholm is a vital member of this region, and he does a lot.

Indeed.

And he is president so he still has a powerful say in the region

Malcholm

Order Of Hospitallers wrote:What is your reason for suppressing the newspaper?

Suppressing? it is called editing I would gladly post your article when you fix it now I would like to ask you to stop acting this way and do try not suppress my post or you will be sorry.

Everloyal wrote:Excuse me Hospitallers what is your reason for suppressing my posts?

Order Of Hospitallers wrote:What is your reason for suppressing the newspaper?

I believe it makes sense to make sure the articles in the regional newspaper are quality, factual, and not trolling or spamming. Personally, I don't think one person should have total control of the media in the region and can choose what is reported and what is not. However, I also think that as an advocate of free speech and freedom of the press, suppressing posts on the RMB is a tad hypocritical ;)

Malcholm, Order Of Hospitallers

Order Of Hospitallers wrote:Indeed.

And he is president so he still has a powerful say in the region

He is the Lunar Council President and I'm the President in Sentagon still without border control or embassies authority.

Order Of Hospitallers

Order Of Hospitallers wrote:Indeed.

And he is president so he still has a powerful say in the region

He's president? Oh lol, I didn't know that. What I just said was kinda pointless then. So what is the position he is running for?

Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron wrote:I believe it makes sense to make sure the articles in the regional newspaper are quality, factual, and not trolling or spamming. Personally, I don't think one person should have total control of the media in the region and can choose what is reported and what is not. However, I also think that as an advocate of free speech and freedom of the press, suppressing posts on the RMB is a tad hypocritical ;)

Yes well I would gladly give him his position when he ends this feud of his.

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I proposed to regional legislation to get border control and embassies authority but that didn't work out.

Malcholm, Order Of Hospitallers

Everloyal wrote:Yes well I would gladly give him his position when he ends this feud of his.

I dont understand what the feud is.

I said you should get a flag then things just got hostile from there.

New Bacon wrote:I proposed to regional legislation to get border control and embassies authority but that didn't work out.

I agree that you should.

Order Of Hospitallers wrote:I agree that you should.

Yeah because I'm a president but don't have full authority I think it's weird.

Alpha Force, Order Of Hospitallers

New Bacon wrote:Yeah because I'm a president but don't have full authority I think it's weird.

Now that the region is stable and has no real invasion threat (at the moment) i think you are both trusted and should get it.

Propose another legislation after elections are over!

Malcholm

Everloyal wrote:Yes well I would gladly give him his position when he ends this feud of his.

I do not believe you should control the media, but I respect your position and it is your job to be in charge of it. Personally, I would allow anyone to submit any news they wanted without having it go by me first, but if an article was bad quality, in-factual, or spam, I would delete it or ask them to re-write it.

It's tough to be in charge of the media and virtually impossible keep the newspaper good and factual without giving up freedom of the press, even if you only give up a little bit.

As long as you only don't allow articles that are spam or in-factual, I don't think you can be blamed for tyrannically limited freedom of speech.

Malcholm, Alpha Force, Order Of Hospitallers

Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron wrote:I do not believe you should control the media, but I respect your position and it is your job to be in charge of it. Personally, I would allow anyone to submit any news they wanted without having it go by me first, but if an article was bad quality, in-factual, or spam, I would delete it or ask them to re-write it.

It's tough to be in charge of the media and virtually impossible keep the newspaper good and factual without giving up freedom of the press, even if you only give up a little bit.

As long as you only don't allow articles that are spam or in-factual, I don't think you can be blamed for tyrannically limited freedom of speech.

My articles dont fit in those catorgories though https://nationstatesplusplus.net/newspaper?id=4136

Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron wrote:I do not believe you should control the media, but I respect your position and it is your job to be in charge of it. Personally, I would allow anyone to submit any news they wanted without having it go by me first, but if an article was bad quality, in-factual, or spam, I would delete it or ask them to re-write it.

It's tough to be in charge of the media and virtually impossible keep the newspaper good and factual without giving up freedom of the press, even if you only give up a little bit.

As long as you only don't allow articles that are spam or in-factual, I don't think you can be blamed for tyrannically limited freedom of speech.

And IF any of them did, all he would have to do is talk to me.

Not revoking my authority

Order Of Hospitallers wrote:Now that the region is stable and has no real invasion threat (at the moment) i think you are both trusted and should get it.

Propose another legislation after elections are over!

I will but it's a long process. It has to go through Sentagon-The Lunar Council- and get approved by Netherfar before it passes or else I will not get that authority.

Order Of Hospitallers

New Bacon wrote:I will but it's a long process. It has to go through Sentagon-The Lunar Council- and get approved by Netherfar before it passes or else I will not get that authority.

I cant speak for the party, but you have my support and the support of my nation.

New Bacon wrote:I will but it's a long process. It has to go through Sentagon-The Lunar Council- and get approved by Netherfar before it passes or else I will not get that authority.

Sounds like bureaucracy :O Bureaucracy is terrible.

Order Of Hospitallers wrote:And IF any of them did, all he would have to do is talk to me.

Not revoking my authority

Yeah, why was your position revoked in the first place?

Order Of Hospitallers

Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron wrote:I do not believe you should control the media, but I respect your position and it is your job to be in charge of it. Personally, I would allow anyone to submit any news they wanted without having it go by me first, but if an article was bad quality, in-factual, or spam, I would delete it or ask them to re-write it.

It's tough to be in charge of the media and virtually impossible keep the newspaper good and factual without giving up freedom of the press, even if you only give up a little bit.

As long as you only don't allow articles that are spam or in-factual, I don't think you can be blamed for tyrannically limited freedom of speech.

I do limit speech I admit this that I will not let classified things be leaked.

Alpha Force

Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron wrote:Sounds like bureaucracy :O Bureaucracy is terrible.

Yeah, why was your position revoked in the first place?

My authority wasn't revoked its just that I don't have access to everything as Sentagon President which is Border Control and Embassies.

Order Of Hospitallers

Everloyal wrote:I do limit speech I admit this that I will not let classified things be leaked.

i dont see what i posted that was classified...

the article i attempted to publish today was information that you said on the rmb....

But I think it's an imbalance of power.

New Bacon wrote:But I think it's an imbalance of power.

indeed.

imbalance of power leads to corruption

New Bacon

New Bacon wrote:My authority wasn't revoked its just that I don't have access to everything as Sentagon President which is Border Control and Embassies.

That question was directed at Hospitallers, sorry.

Everloyal wrote:I do limit speech I admit this that I will not let classified things be leaked.

Okay, well that makes sense. I guess it then just comes down to a debate of what is classified, which is up to the govt.

Order Of Hospitallers

New Bacon wrote:But I think it's an imbalance of power.

Well are Everloyal and Hospitallers meant to be equal partners in charge of the newspaper, or is one of them in a higher position?

Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron wrote:That question was directed at Hospitallers, sorry.

Okay, well that makes sense. I guess it then just comes down to a debate of what is classified, which is up to the govt.

if something he said on the rmb is classified why did he put it on the rmb?

Order Of Hospitallers wrote:i dont see what i posted that was classified...

the article i attempted to publish today was information that you said on the rmb....

No about that I just asked you to reword it because the way it was said did not sound good. It sounded like I was conquering innocent region really I was helping the wolf Syndicate.

Alpha Force

Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron wrote:Well are Everloyal and Hospitallers meant to be equal partners in charge of the newspaper, or is one of them in a higher position?

i was elected to be the journalist but because everloyal was delegate at the time and the founder didnt have ns++ he founded it.

but i have been the only one to make articles or anything involving the news so far

Order Of Hospitallers wrote:if something he said on the rmb is classified why did he put it on the rmb?

If it's purposely posted on the RMB then it is considered public information.

It seems that this may have just been a mistake, Everloyal thought something was classified that wasn't.

What information was it anyway?

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Order Of Hospitallers

Everloyal wrote:No about that I just asked you to reword it because the way it was said did not sound good. It sounded like I was conquering innocent region really I was helping the wolf Syndicate.

i cant change the wording because u revoked my position as i have said...

i understand what you mean but i cant change it because i have no authority in the paper!

Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron wrote:Well are Everloyal and Hospitallers meant to be equal partners in charge of the newspaper, or is one of them in a higher position?

I created it and recommended the position Hospitallers has taken which is fair I did ask who wanted to be a reporter.

Alpha Force

Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron wrote:If it's purposely posted on the RMB then it is considered public information.

It seems that this may have just been a mistake, Everloyal thought something was classified that wasn't.

What information was it anyway?

him resigning on the wa to help in another region.

Alpha Force

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Hospitallers please check your telegrams.

Alpha Force

Everloyal wrote:Hospitallers please check your telegrams.

check them for what?

Order Of Hospitallers wrote:it was actually oaks idea before any of us

No I wanted someone to give a daily report to the delegate to know what was going on he changed it a little.

Alpha Force, Order Of Hospitallers

Everloyal wrote:No about that I just asked you to reword it because the way it was said did not sound good. It sounded like I was conquering innocent region really I was helping the wolf Syndicate.

Well that almost seems like an abuse of power, you didn't want to be viewed in a negative light. You should've just requested he change the wording or announce on the RMB or make an article explaining that you were just helping the Wolf Syndicate.

Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Order Of Hospitallers

The Grandmaster of The Knights Hospitaller apologizes for the foolish behavior of the Grand Commander and hopes peace can be established with everloyal, and that we are willing to co operate if they are.

Alpha Force

Order Of Hospitallers wrote:The Grandmaster of The Knights Hospitaller apologizes for the foolish behavior of the Grand Commander and hopes peace can be established with everloyal, and that we are willing to co operate if they are.

By all means we are.

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Alpha Force

Order Of Hospitallers wrote:The Grandmaster of The Knights Hospitaller apologizes for the foolish behavior of the Grand Commander and hopes peace can be established with everloyal, and that we are willing to co operate if they are.

Everloyal wrote:By all means we are.

Kiss and make up, there you go.

Malcholm

Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron wrote:Kiss and make up, there you go.

I made sure via telegram.

Alpha Force

97 new messages??? Wow, this place has been busy! :)

How is everyone?

Malcholm, Alpha Force

Forestavia wrote:97 new messages??? Wow, this place has been busy! :)

How is everyone?

I am tired. I flew home this morning from holiday, my plane landed at 2am, I got home at 4am (they lost one of our checked bags so we had to fill out a bunch of forms) and I fell asleep at 5am. I woke up at 6:30am for school.

Usually I can survive on little sleep, but... damn I'm exhausted.

Malcholm, Alpha Force

Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron wrote:I am tired. I flew home this morning from holiday, my plane landed at 2am, I got home at 4am (they lost one of our checked bags so we had to fill out a bunch of forms) and I fell asleep at 5am. I woke up at 6:30am for school.

Usually I can survive on little sleep, but... damn I'm exhausted.

Not that anyone gives a damn lol.

Alpha Force

Forestavia wrote:97 new messages??? Wow, this place has been busy! :)

How is everyone?

sent a telegram to your oak account.

Alpha Force

Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron wrote:Not that anyone gives a damn lol.

The irony is that airports are supposed to be so "secure". How do they still lose baggage?

Malcholm, Alpha Force

Order Of Hospitallers wrote:i cant change the wording because u revoked my position as i have said...

i understand what you mean but i cant change it because i have no authority in the paper!

Oh geez. This newspaper fiasco...

This region is super-doper free so you've got tons of other options my friend.

1. See if Netherfar has NS++ and will give you newspaper authority.

2. If not, endorse a nation who has NS++ and who also wants to be Delegate.

3. As journalist, you have appearance authority so you can publish a dispatch (newspaper) and add it to the WFE any time you please.

4. If all else fails, just throw newspaper articles right up on the RMB.

And that also opens the door for more than one journalist. Our region could have FIVE media outlets if it wanted to!

Happy writing! :)

Malcholm, Alpha Force

Nice dispatch Malcholm!

Malcholm

New Bacon wrote:He is the Lunar Council President and I'm the President in Sentagon still without border control or embassies authority.

I've been thinking about that lately. I opposed it at first because I wanted to keep border control away from as many hands as possible. But now I think that both Presidents should have equal power. After we get done with section 32, we should work on this. Technically, you don't even have appearance authority as President of Sentagon. You only have appearance authority through the Appearance Act/Map Minister thing. This needs to change.

Both of our region's Presidents should be on equal footing.

Malcholm, Alpha Force

Malcholm wrote:Here's the [spoiler=telegram][/spoiler] I just sent [nation=short]everloyal[/nation] in regards to the Regional Guard.

This is precisely the kind of thing that is needed to make the Regional Guard an official military. We just raided an innocent region last night - which was really fun by the way. The Regional Guard will probably have to be held to a higher standard of conduct to be adopted by The Mystical Council, though.

We have a choice, Everloyal. Keep our Regional Guard a completely free mercenary force beholden to no government (which is good for independence sake) or to build an official reputation with our regional government adhering to The Mystical Council's moral compass (this is good for strengthening the region).

There is no right or wrong answer. But Malcholm's got the right idea, if our regional government is going to recognize the Regional Guard as our official military, said military will have to be directly accountable to our region's heads of state (both Presidents and the Delegate). And any raiding/defense mission will have to be justified or approved through the official government channels.

Malcholm

Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron wrote:He's president? Oh lol, I didn't know that. What I just said was kinda pointless then. So what is the position he is running for?

Nah, what you said was right on the nose. I'm working hard for this region, and I'm running to keep my position as President. If I were to lose to two other candidates, I'd lose my seat on the Lunar Council and the authorities granted to me by the position. The next longest serving nation on the Lunar Council would transcende to the Lunar Council President's seat, and who knows what [nation=short]au912_Mystical_Council_consulate[/nation] would do to the region ;D

Forestavia, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Trebisond, Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron

Welcome all new nations to the region!

And also, I tip my hat to the Anarcho Capitalist Party which seems to be a hit!

Great work everyone!

Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Trebisond

All new residents are officially members of Sentagon. I will up date the list hopefully tomorrow. It's already bed time for me. I check the rest of my telegrams tomorrow.

Malcholm

By the way, [nation=short]Toad of the Tree[/nation] = Forestavia FYI.

Alpha Force

Forestavia wrote:This is precisely the kind of thing that is needed to make the Regional Guard an official military. We just raided an innocent region last night - which was really fun by the way. The Regional Guard will probably have to be held to a higher standard of conduct to be adopted by The Mystical Council, though.

We have a choice, Everloyal. Keep our Regional Guard a completely free mercenary force beholden to no government (which is good for independence sake) or to build an official reputation with our regional government adhering to The Mystical Council's moral compass (this is good for strengthening the region).

There is no right or wrong answer. But Malcholm's got the right idea, if our regional government is going to recognize the Regional Guard as our official military, said military will have to be directly accountable to our region's heads of state (both Presidents and the Delegate). And any raiding/defense mission will have to be justified or approved through the official government channels.

I don't know if innocent region is the right description for that place. Maybe a region that was abandoned or a region that looks for the most part dead would be a better description. Without intervention it would most likely ended up being a DEN hangout. With the aid of the guard, that region will soon have order and one day will have a live population.

Forestavia wrote:This is precisely the kind of thing that is needed to make the Regional Guard an official military. We just raided an innocent region last night - which was really fun by the way. The Regional Guard will probably have to be held to a higher standard of conduct to be adopted by The Mystical Council, though.

We have a choice, Everloyal. Keep our Regional Guard a completely free mercenary force beholden to no government (which is good for independence sake) or to build an official reputation with our regional government adhering to The Mystical Council's moral compass (this is good for strengthening the region).

There is no right or wrong answer. But Malcholm's got the right idea, if our regional government is going to recognize the Regional Guard as our official military, said military will have to be directly accountable to our region's heads of state (both Presidents and the Delegate). And any raiding/defense mission will have to be justified or approved through the official government channels.

Hard decision it would be nice to be official I hate being called a mercenary but I would have to go through a ton of bullshit to get the regional guard mobile .

Good morning. How is everyone on this fine cool morning?

Malcholm, Trebisond

Everything good here ?

Malcholm, Trebisond

I will join the Anarcho-Capitalist Party

and congrats to the new delegate!

Forestavia

Forestavia wrote:The irony is that airports are supposed to be so "secure". How do they still lose baggage?

Trust me, the TSA does not make me feel safer when flying by any means.

Malcholm

Everloyal wrote:Hard decision it would be nice to be official I hate being called a mercenary but I would have to go through a ton of bullshit to get the regional guard mobile .

Why? Mercenaries are badass :)

Trebisond

Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron wrote:Why? Mercenaries are badass :)

Yes they are. :)

Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron wrote:Why? Mercenaries are badass :)

They are not considered organized they sound barbaric.

Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron wrote:Why? Mercenaries are badass :)

They are not Honorable and usually after a reward.

i think they should be a mercenary band under our control.

like the varangian gaurd and the byzantine empire

Trebisond wrote:i think they should be a mercenary band under our control.

like the varangian gaurd and the byzantine empire

i have no clue what yall are taking about but the mercenarys hoe base can be on the moon

Everloyal wrote:They are not Honorable and usually after a reward.

And how is that not honourable?

Everloyal wrote:They are not Honorable and usually after a reward.

WOW. That's a stereotype if I ever heard one. That could be said about quite a few regions, no matter their region tag.

I can work with any region, I don't care about their tag. But if their is hostility, I guess I will stop the merge of our military and pull out embassies.

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Order Of Hospitallers

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Alpha Wolf wrote:WOW. That's a stereotype if I ever heard one. That could be said about quite a few regions, no matter their region tag.

I can work with any region, I don't care about their tag. But if their is hostility, I guess I will stop the merge of our military and pull out embassies.

interesting i didnt know our militarys are merging.

who set up the deal?

what does being in the world assembly do?

Lunar Apoclypse wrote:what does being in the world assembly do?

Your nation is subjected to countless regulations and laws which affect your stats... don't join it.

Forestavia, Order Of Hospitallers

Who should i endorse?

Lunar Apoclypse wrote:what does being in the world assembly do?

Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron wrote:Your nation is subjected to countless regulations and laws which affect your stats... don't join it.

However, it also allows you to vote for delegate. It's pretty much useless otherwise.

Central Timor wrote:Who should i endorse?

Whoever you wish. The nation with the most endorsements becomes delegate.

Forestavia

The Moon looks beautiful today

Forestavia

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