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Region: The Mystical Council
Someone should consider updating the Current Government factbook... as it's nearly 70 days outdated...
Alistia, Malcholm, Truxol, Exotic Lemon
But why have members in government if they never do anything. I can change it if you feel its necessary i agree the time is a little bit short. I could do 2 weeks but i feel a month is stretching it.:)
Gyuamno, Alistia, Truxol
Sunday issue of The Mystical Times is released: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=810471
Featured Headline: Judicial Seat Up for Grabs!
Truxol
Gonna be doing najor stuff later today.
Civilisunio
Najor stuff eh. Oi mate.
Gyuamno
I agree.A weekly report would be almost impossible to mantain
I will edit that now.
Also congrats to [nation=short]Malcholm[/nation] who will become the Judicial President assuming [nation=short]Chingis[/nation] doesn't change his mind.
Gyuamno, Malcholm, Parakka Northland
Much thanks!
Exotic Lemon, Chingis
Everyone please remember to consider nominating someone for "nation of the week"
Malcholm
I love it! Clean = mean bean dream machine.
I nominate myself for nation of the week because I accurately predicted before that I would take the delegacy before.
One other thing, I am putting a temporary flag that is somewhat original and not the Teutons until we get a proper flag.
Malcholm
Its temporary meaning is world unity.
Malcholm
Alright so Apparent and Comms are top priority to Minister of Culture of culture, with poll being secondary.
[nation=short]The_Immortal_Elysium[/nation] and [nation=short]Alistia[/nation], what about you guys. What office powers are relevant to you and why.
Alistia, Exotic Lemon
I nominate Ififififif because sometimes you just wanna know about hypotheticals.
On second thought, those horoscopes in the paper are pretty good so far. So we might not need to know about hypotheticals for much longer.
Gyuamno, Malcholm, Civilisunio
Today's paper is out! https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=810872
Featured Headline: Barishmacht: Self-Proclaimed Prophet
Breaking: One step closer to finding the missing travelers in Forestavia
Hehe, thanks for liking the horoscopes! I knew I should have got into the horoscope business long, long ago.
Malcholm
Wait, why aren't i next in line for judicial president?
You are a temporary appointment I thought
VIVA is correct!
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That conversation is from RMB page 865.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=display_region_rmb/region=the_mystical_council?start=21600
Gyuamno, Malcholm
Post self-deleted by Mugwop.
Following Chingis, Civ is next in line, not Mal. His appointment is temporary in the sense that he has been given a less than full term, until his seat goes on election next month. But by all means, he is the next Judicial President, unless [nation=short]Forestavia[/nation] revokes his appointment and removes him from the council. I will leave you to deal with that decision.
Malcholm
Seat numbers, their occupants, and their terms can all be found here BTW https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=743586
Forestavia
I'm not exactly sure on how the Judicial President position works. Is it seniority?
Malcholm
Yes.
Malcholm
Is this based on just seniority or do other factors contribute?
Forestavia
No, just whomever is the current oldest councilor is the president.
Forestavia
5. The Judicial President is always the most senior member of the Judicial Council.
Malcholm is President.
Just out of curiosity, why haven't we had an election for that #3 spot yet? Are we just waiting for the next scheduled election day?
No, Mal began his term in April 1st for seat #1, for the term April 1st - June 30th. Civ began his term a weak or so before Mal, right after you appointed him, for seat #3, for the term March 1st - May 31st.
According to the chart, he's been serving since January 1st making him the most senior member of the Lunar Council/Judicial Body. Chingis started in February and Civ was only appointed thirty some days ago. Mal's got months on Civ.
No no. Sorry if this has caused a confusion. The term dates you see are only indicative of the length of a term. It does not pertain to when a particular councilor actually did start serving in the council. I will work on adding this information. In this case, Mal started only on April first. Before him, for seat #1 and the term January 1st - March 31st, the seat was awarded to [nation=short]Gyuamno[/nation]. Here is the election poll for that seat, which was held in the end of December. https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=78094
I see. We should probably drop the term "seniority" from section 5 then and replace with maybe something based on rotation of the election cycles. I'm not sure how to put it into words but I understand what you're trying to say. "Seniority" doesn't quite pin it down precisely. Maybe "Rotational Seniority"?
Or maybe word it like this: "Every election the seniority of the members of the Lunar Council will be reset such that seniority rotates from one member to another every election."
Hello
Forestavia, Exotic Lemon
I will change
5. The Judicial President is always the most senior member of the Judicial Council.
to
5. The Judicial President is always the current longest serving member of the Judicial Council.
I also added in information about when each particular member began their term.
Greetings! Have some tea!
*Hands cup of green tea*
Alex Green
Again this is still a little too ambiguous. It implies seniority. Malcholm is the longest serving member since he's been serving since January.
*takes a sip* Thanks I really needed that ...
Mind if I stay?
Forest no, Mal has only been serving since April. [nation=short]Gyuamno[/nation] had the seat for the January 1st - March 31st term.
Sure! Make yourself at home! :)
Alex Green
I get what you're trying to say. I really do. I'm not opposed to it. Civ is up for President because of the way the election cycles are and the way it resets but we need to find a better way to [I]say[/I] what we're trying to say. Because if I was new to the region and someone told me that Malcholm has been serving since January, Chingis since Feb, and Civ since 33 or so days ago and then I also learned that the current longest serving member is automatically the President of the Lunar Council [I]then[/I] I would be led to believe that Malcholm is the Lunar Council President.
Why? Because currently, according to our own information, Malcholm has been serving longer than the other two members. He IS currently the longest serving member until the day he loses an election.
We need different language to communicate that Civ is the true President of the Lunar Council. I'm not exactly sure how to do it to be honest with you. But we need to definitely include examples so that people are clear on how this process works.
I'm also confused as to why the chart has Malcholm on as a member since January 1st but the link to the poll has Gyuamno winning the election. For all intents and purposes I'm looking at this stuff with fresh eyes as if I was new because I haven't been active very much lately and I'm seeing contradictory information. I just want to bring it to your attention or to whoever's attention so that we can be more precise about things because when things get confusing, no one knows what the rules are and our region begins to fall into chaos. We've been down that road before. You've even witnessed the chaos yourself.
Parakka Northland
Forest, Mal wasn't in council AT ALL, during the January - March term.
I'm NOT saying that he only started in seat #1 on April 1st, but before that he was in a different seat. I am saying that he wasn't in seat #1, #2, or #3 during that period. [B]During that period he was the Minister of Domestic Affairs[/B]. He began his term for Minister of Domestic Affairs on Jan 1st, and ended on March 31st. This was his election results from December: https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=77697 He had nothing to do with the council during that period.
Again I also updated the table now so it is abundantly clear when each person serving has started their term in the council. It now states the following
Malcholm, since April 1st 2017
Chingis, since February 1st 2017
Civilisunio, since March 22nd 2017
I think you're getting too confused by when it says First Term, Second Term, Third Term, Fourth Term. The information in there is not particular to the person. It is particular to the seat, and what is the term cycle for each seat.
Forestavia
AND...Apparently I'm not the only one who thinks that Malcholm is the Judicial President.
But that is wrong. Mal wasn't in the council at all until April 1st. If you want to make him the Judicial President, you must revoke your appointment of Civ and remove him from the council first
I am sincerely sorry if the information I had presented before lead you all to believe that Mal was in the council since January. He wasn't. He was the Minister of Domestic affairs back then.
And for the record everyone Mugwop is doing an excellent job managing this mess of information. I mean you deserve bonus points or something dude. Communicating information like this in a way that keeps everyone on the same page is a tall order for anyone. So don't let anyone give you any trouble about this. ;)
But let me point out two more things here that I noticed.
1. You are right about Malcholm not serving until April. Now take a look a Viva's quote again. The reason why VIVA said "assuming Chingis doesn't change his mind" is because of the fact that Chingis started his term in February and is currently the longest serving member of the council, the one with the most seniority, the one with dibs on the Presidency.
2. Consider also the fact that we've always gone by seniority in the past. I'm not sure when we stopped seniority but I'm ok with the change if everyone else is.
We still are on that system, that's why Civ is next in line.
Chingis has been in the council for 83 days
Civ has been in the council for 34 days
Mal has been in the council for 24 days
So Chingis, who has the most amount of days, is the Judicial President until he resigns, loses his seat, CTE's, doesn't run... In this case, he's not running again.
Right now only [nation=short]Truxol[/nation] is in the running for the upcoming council election. Assuming he wins, on May 1st the council will be made of these 3:
Civ who has been in the council for 42 days as of May 1st
Mal who has been in the council for 32 days as of May 1st
Truxol has been in the council for 0 days as of May 1st
Civ has the most amount of days in the council, so he becomes president then.
Forestavia, Malcholm, Truxol
For those following (or just joining) this conversation these dispatches are what Mugwop and I are referencing:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=743586
https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=77697
https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=78094
Malcholm
So I was wrong about number 2 and it looks like Chingis is not even seeking reelection. Your above post is worth it's weight in gold. This is what we need to show people. Now everything makes sense to me. I hope everyone else sees this RMB conversation. Make a mental note that we're currently on RMB page 886 that way if people have questions in the future we can refer to it.
Malcholm
You wouldn't have been this confused had you not been a celery addict.
Forestavia, Malcholm, Chingis
I can't help - hel - help it. Th-the cel-cel-celery is just so. I keep - keep coming back for more! MORE! MORE CELERY! Where's the nearest grocery store???????
Malcholm, Truxol
You know how celery gets all stringy sometimes? Well, if you're very patient and very careful you might be able to make a paint brush out of strands of celery. I like to paint volcanoes with my celery brush!
Malcholm, Barishmacht, Parakka Northland
Quoted just two random posts to Chiming in with:- Do we need a judicial president?
Chiming out with: I'll let you guys debate it
Malcholm
So far for nations of the week I have:
[nation=short]gyuamno[/nation], nominated by [nation=short]civilisunio[/nation]
[nation=short]barishmacht[/nation], nominated by [nation=short]barishmacht[/nation]
[nation=short]Ififififif[/nation], nominated by [nation=short]forestavia[/nation]
[nation=short]mugwop[/nation], nominated by [nation=short]gyuamno[/nation]
If you would like to nominate someone, you have until Friday to nominate them on the RMB. Please mention me so that I will see it. Poll goes up on Friday and will last until Monday every week.
Malcholm, Truxol
Yes. WA Delegate, Prime Minister, and Judicial President. For the sake of decision making, the number of branch heads must be odd, not counting Forest. We cannot have only 1, and 5 is too much, so 3 it is.
Parakka Northland
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=811689
Featured Headline: Battle for Judicial President
Truxol
Swear to God if Penn Station doesn't get its act together by next week...
Truxol
What happened?
Truxol, Civilisunio
For the past month there's been nothing but issues, nearly every week. Derailment, emergency repairs, signal issues, wiring issues, trains stalling and losing power... It's just a mess. This has been causing hours-long delays and cancellations and I'd like to get home at a decent time.
Malcholm, Barishmacht, Truxol, Civilisunio
Tbh I thought you were joking about something and were talking about Penn Station Subs
Truxol
I could use a sub right about now.
Malcholm, Barishmacht, Truxol, Civilisunio
This is right. I hadn't even thought of it because I was elected to the third chair just before Civ's appointment.
ggnore, ive been bamboozled again >:0
Gyuamno, Truxol, Parakka Northland
Yes! It's the same concept as having a chirf justice on the US supreme court. Someone needs to be responsible for documenting cases and leading the court, and that job falls on our JCP!
Parakka Northland
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=812511
Headline: Truxol Wins by Landslide
Malcholm, Truxol, Exotic Lemon
:D
Gyuamno, Malcholm
quiet news day.
Malcholm
Yep! I'm a little jammed this week and next :P
I can put more time in on the weekend so there should be longer articles and more stories (I can make them up). We're still gathering info on the missing travelers in [nation=short]Forestavia[/nation], more is to develop in the coming days, so stay tuned!
Nothing to report when the message board is dead for 24 hours either. Oh well.
Truxol
Omg is this actually our new flag?
Truxol, Order Of Teutons
DO YOU NOT READ THE NEWS
Malcholm, Truxol, Order Of Teutons
I still luv u alistia no worries <4
Malcholm, Truxol, Order Of Teutons
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=810872
Alistia, Truxol
I need border control to protect us from potentially hostile nations attempting to raid us, communications in order to give vital information to the region through tgs, and embassies in order to create or abolish ties with a region for military needs.
Appearence would be nice to put important info in the wfe or to pin a dispatch, but i wont request it.
Also big news is that skynet has been created, the defense ministry will unveil part of this to the public during the weekend, but it will have us prepared to defend ourselfs for decades to come.
Also i hope this new flag isnt our perma one srsly its like a un rip off with two bright colors, super tacky.
Gyuamno, Malcholm, Barishmacht, Illfated, Truxol, Parakka Northland, Order Of Teutons
'To establish an original flag'
*steals logo*
Ill submit some stuff, when is the due date [nation=short]mugwop[/nation]
Gyuamno, Illfated, Truxol
Of Border control, comms, and embassies, which is the two most important?
Also flag poll will be up by the end of Friday.
Illfated, Truxol, Parakka Northland
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=812952
Headline: Robot Overlord Coming to TMC
[nation=short]The_Immortal_Elysium[/nation], you seem to be more intrested in the matters of The Bar On The Corner Of Every Region than you are of our region. You have yet to give your take on my request about your office, through RMB of telegram
In fact, you have had no interaction with our region or done any foreign affairs matters with any of our neighboring regions, except RP with the bar region. What do you have to say about that?
Viva Italia
I have been watching his case recently.An impeachment vote may be in order
Today (4/27/17) and early 4/28/17 are the last days I am taking nominations for nation of the week. The poll will go up in the afternoon tomorrow.
bring back the teutonic flag!!! Now!
Well I mean, if you would have read what I said and not the media (which people happen to believe 100% of the time, kinda stupid imo) I said "somewhat". Its temporary.
I'm not 100% sure it's what he wanted me to do, but I think Barismacht asked me to tell you guys that for RL reasons, he'll be taking a break for a bit, and that he loves you all.
ur such a joke m8
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=813416
Featured Headline: Fake News Rampant in TMC
[B]Deadline for flag submissions is less than 12 hours.[/B] Once the poll goes up, I can't accept any new submissions.
Other than my flag, I have had 1 submission so far from [nation=short]Pepoana[/nation]
"Plans to step down"
Goy I just had to stay up until 3 AM today trying to tell someone that they shouldn't kill themselves
That sort of thing is never a good experience to go through. Hope you are ok and so is the person you were chatting too
[nation=short]mugwop[/nation] I am letting you use the poll power in this region so I will put the nation of the week poll on the back-up region. After that we can have a poll to see if I deserve/need polls.
First nation of the week poll is up!!! Be sure to vote https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=90724
I would like to personally thank: [nation=short]barishmacht[/nation], [nation=short]civilisunio[/nation], [nation=short]forestavia[/nation], and [nation=short]gyuamno[/nation] for selflessly nominating people who truly deserve it.
Gyuamno, Barishmacht
Thanks.
[B]THIS IS THE LAST NOTIFICATION FOR FLAG SUBMISSION.[/B]
I will give you guys a couple more hours.
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/greatmultiverse/images/2/21/Confederacy_of_Independent_Systems.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120225173651
http://imgur.com/uXqXRyk
http://i.imgur.com/PgbPwYr.jpg
http://orig15.deviantart.net/d310/f/2013/213/0/b/flag_of_the_british_chancellorate_by_generalhelghast-d6g7k87.png
http://fractalsoftworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/pirate.png
http://brony4.deviantart.com/art/Flag-of-the-Department-of-State-Security-639529341
I submit all those as proposals
Not sure what to say about the flag chooses, but im abstaining from the vote.
Malcholm, Exotic Lemon, Viva Italia
Well those were all the options that I got until today.
I gave you a whole bunch of options earlier today
Civilisunio
Why the sudden activity burst?
Sorry. I understand that you were gone, but as it has been stated for over a week that the deadline is Friday night and that there won't be anymore submissions once the poll goes up.
Viva Italia
I know
this poll is bad, we need a third option that says 'neither', or includes all of ills proposals
If people feel it is necessary then we will have another vote.
Don't 4get to vote FOR the condemnation
I'm sure Forest always said there should be an abstain option in polls but I can't remember
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