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Region: The Mystical Council
Salve! Loquerisne linguam latinam?
Sic, paululum linguae Latinae dico, but not as much as Norwegian, which I am fluent in, or Russian and German, which I am passable in
Malcholm
Congratulations Teurs on winning WA Delegate! I was more than happy to overlook your Socialist views to endorse you, knowing you'd do the job well!
Alistia
so now teurs is Delegate...So that means another judicial seat is up for election.
Parakka Northland
Was he talking to gyuamno or teurs? Because he was talking to a lunar councillor.
Alistia, Parakka Northland
Well if this is true they should be banjected.
Alistia, Parakka Northland
I'm sure [nation=short]Alistia[/nation] will now upload the evidence I have submitted to him which shows that [nation=short]Gyuamno[/nation] was asking for advice on how to stage a coup. I have always been fairly neutral here, and therefore have no strong views on who ought to govern the region, but this was clearly either an attempt to organise a coup against the government, which was then abandoned in return for favour with Alistia, or an elaborate lie to entrap me, which is a crime in itself.
I would support bringing a case against both of you to the Lunar Council once we have all the evidence
Parakka Northland
The message was sent, I don't deny that, but at [nation=short]Gyuamno[/nation]'s request, and there was a coup attempt, lead by [nation=short]Gyuamno[/nation], in which case there's a list of people you'll have to banject, which I can provide.
Well you'll need to appoint two new members of the Lunar Council, because one is accused, and the other is the WA delegate.
Post by Nucerea suppressed by New Bacon.
Here's the evidence of me trying to convince [nation=short]Gyuamno[/nation] not to overthrow the government, and to do what he wanted to do via legal and constitutional means. If he was set up to this by [nation=short]Alistia[/nation] I'd like them both to be tried, one for conspiracy, the other for entrapment and misconduct in office.
http://i.imgur.com/uwVvd1c.png
Let's hold elections then for LC. I'd like to get to the bottom of this asap.
Hang on....what's happening with Gyuamno and whatnot?
Post self-deleted by Sharisaki.
Interesting. These are some serious accusations to both [nation=short]Gyuamno[/nation] and [nation=short]Alistia[/nation]. If convicted they will definitely lose their position in the goverment, maybe even be banned for conspiracy against the region. And you say they are not the only two involved? Who else?
Viva Italia
So it looks like Parakka was right.I call for a complete investigation of Sanctine,Immortal Elysium and Sadaria as these nations arrived around the same time as the two coup-plotters
Parakka Northland
If this is true we are looking at the conviction of two of the highest ranking officers in the region and another citizen.
Barishmacht, Parakka Northland
Viva Italia wants to investigate me? Man...do I at least get a cookie?
Malcholm
Anyone found innocent will be given a plate of fresh cookies, made by me.
But they'll be Oatmeal Raisin, so you won't eat them anyway!
Sanctine
Jokes on you! I like oatmeal raisin!
Malcholm
Will I have immunity from prosecution?
Well if what you are saying is true then it looks like [nation=short]Gyuamno[/nation] was trying to instigate you into his coup. A manipulated victim cannot be prosecuted.
Nucerea
That would be likely.
Nucerea
Yes as you came around the same time as the nations in question.I am not accusing you but we must investigate all nations that could be involved
Parakka Northland
Post self-deleted by Barishmacht.
We really can't move forward without Gyuamno
Barishmacht
Post self-deleted by Gyuamno.
If there is so much conspiracy surrounding this whole delegacy then we might as well have someone we can trust at the moment 100% than someone who we cant. (No offense Gyuamno)
Parakka Northland, Viva Italia
Post self-deleted by Gyuamno.
Viva I would like it to be put in your newspaper as well as a special report.
Indeed.I believe Teurs is someone we can trust
Barishmacht
Okay.I will make a special report today and on Sunday when the weekly news comes out I will include whatever info we have.
These are some good observations, also by all means I do not think either [nation=short]Gyuamno[/nation] or [nation=short]Alistia[/nation] should be prosecuted before we have solid evidence of wrong doing. I for one hope they will be in the clear, but we must consider the alternative as well and be prepared.
So if [nation=short]Nucerea[/nation] has information on the subject I hope he can shed light on the matter about who else was conspiring.
Parakka Northland
Intermission!
I would like to say that Viva did say if I will actually get a cookie.
Also, I would like to say I did not endorse Gyuamno.
Alright, carry on.
Malcholm, Barishmacht
Optime! Also what the hell is going on...
I know however it makes sense to investigate the nations that came when the nations involved came
But do I get a cookie!?!?!?
Barishmacht
Yes, and I've provided you with the evidence of that. I gave him advice initially, and then said he didn't have to upset the constitutional order of the region to gain a leadership position.
Post self-deleted by Barishmacht.
Post self-deleted by Barishmacht.
Yeah, I want one too!
Who was helping in the coup?
That is true. There is more to this
[nation=short]Nucerea[/nation] you stated that [nation=short]Alistia[/nation] is implicated in this, and that there are others. Who are they and why would they do this?
Malcholm, Parakka Northland
Post self-deleted by Gyuamno.
Post self-deleted by Barishmacht.
Here are all the messages I have from [nation=short]Gyuamno[/nation] which implicate him in the coup, the rest have unfortunately been deleted automatically as my inbox has exceeded 20.
http://i.imgur.com/k34u8tr.png
I think that's fairly damning, no? I then sent the message explaining how [nation=short]Gyuamno[/nation] could have control of the region using legal and constitutional means. I shall provide the details of everyone else implicated in this attempt once I have a guarantee of immunity.
As I said, either this was a set-up, or an actual attempted coup. If it's the latter, then if you're going to co-opt someone into an illegal attempt against the government, [nation=short]Gyuamno[/nation], at least refrain from informing on them. No honour among thieves I suppose.
Post self-deleted by Gyuamno.
That's how you structure a sentence when asking for advice. What would you suggest *I* do?
Okay, so that's [nation=short]Gyuamno[/nation]. What about the others?
I need a guarantee of immunity,
Post self-deleted by Barishmacht.
Post self-deleted by Barishmacht.
For whom exactly?
Who even are you?
Civilisunio
Myself, otherwise why would I supply the information?
How do we know that you aren't lying?
I was exploring regional RBMs and I saw a post about [nation=short]Alistia[/nation] and overthrowing the govt. I'll try and find it if I can.
The grand duke. Don't dig yourself in it a larger hole. I suggest you compile a response and put it into a dispatch so we have a couple response that the JB can quickly refer to.
About what I've already said? Because I've supplied screenshots. About what I information I could supply? I have evidence for that too.
Okay.If you supply the evidence we will give immunity
Nucerea
Wait, am I involved in this?
Well for now even if they are not hard proven facts, we can still settle with just claims and follow the leads.
Interesting, please do. And do tell us if you know anyone else involved.
Nobody is out so at this point you are but you dont need to worry unless you have something to say.
Currently no,however you may come under investigation because of the timing of your move here
A bigger hole? Are you not the disgraced former delegate?
I've given my evidence. I'm clearly partly at fault, but a pawn in a larger game. My conscience is clear.
Civilisunio
So are you saying that the information you have implicates you?
Not any further than I am already. The point is, I might be prosecuted anyway, so why would my cause be advanced by supplying more information?
Give us the evidence please
Truxol
Are you trying to only help yourself or the region?
Truxol, Sanctine
Ok that's fair...I deleted my inbox because I couldn't receive telegrams and I didn't know there was an archive folder so don't depend on me for information...
It means that we can punish fellow revolutionaries
I'll see what I can dredge up from my search history...
Well the region hasn't treated me that well tbh
I don't think you,elysium or sanctine have anything to do with it however we must investigate
Let's not get mean here...keep it civil dude.
I've been accused of being part of a raiding party from Kaiserreich and elsewhere, I've been asked to participate in a coup, and then informed on
I am not disgraced. I just did something that was for a jb case but nobody likes it. At least I am not attempting a coup'. You have some real nerve to talk to me like that.
Parakka Northland
No problem...I you need to ask me anything, I'll be honest.
Politics and paranoia, nothing more.
Nucerea
Please by all means investigate me.
Just give us info and we will give you immunity
You were kicked out of the region by Alistia, looking at the records. But let's see if your name remains untarnished once I've handed over my evidence.
Civilisunio
Question: do you guys do RP?
Parakka Northland
What evidence? Evidence against me? I have only ever talked to you and that was asking for your endorsement.
Post self-deleted by Barishmacht.
So Civ was involved?Just give the evidence already
Parakka Northland, Sadaria
According to Forest, our neighbours Solar Alliance are all the rage with RP
Parakka Northland
Once I can be sure that I do have immunity, so where most of the leadership agree, I will.
Sorry can I be updated on this trial thing?
I'd be happy to start it up again if you want me to direct RPs. I have some experience with writing...I'm a professsional author, that sort of thing. After this whole thing is resolved of course.
Why else did he agree to go on a raid and then keeping joining the WA here?
Well a lot of us did that because we thought the region was in danger.
And it was, as it turns out.
Hand over the evidence and you will be given immunity
But then of course, if someone comes to you with plans for a coup, and they have some good ideas, and you're new to the region and don't have any affinity with the current government, what would you do? I eventually decided to try and convince him to do it legally, at which point he apparently changed his mind and informed on me to Alistia.
Prosecuted is different from investigated.
You will probably be investigated, and so will [nation=short]Alistia[/nation], [nation=short]Gyuamno[/nation] and few others I believe, but no one will be prosecuted until there is evidence to suggest willful wrongdoings by attempting to instigate a coup.
Now from the information you have given, it looks like [nation=short]Gyuamno[/nation] was the one trying to use you to become the delegate and launch a coup. If that's the case, you are a victim in this situation, not someone to be prosecuted. However, what you have given us does not prove this case, because we lack the full picture. The truth is, the only one that can give you immunity is yourself, by virtue of your honest statement.
That's why, for your sake more than others, you need to help us build the full picture against the conspirators. If we know who else is involved, we can discern who's the criminal, who's the bystander, and who's the victim.
Nucerea, Malcholm, Parakka Northland, Viva Italia, Sanctine
I want to know everyone who is implied and what evidence you have
Gyu didnt do anything, he was approached about doing a coup and has been playing with it so get screens of their senr telegrams
Truxol
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