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Region: The Mystical Council
Um...the Communist is right.
Get rid of the fascist flag, and the communist propaganda for invading a region with an active founder using innate spies.
Malcholm
I'm still thinking about whether I should run or not.
The flag isn't fascist at all lmao.
Its a mix of 'don't tread on me' and 'come and take it'
New Bacon, Exotic Lemon
You're making it worse for yourself right now. I suggest you cooperate.
Civilisunio, Exotic Lemon
It's being investigated.
Plugo, Civilisunio, Exotic Lemon
Exactly what i said.:)
New Bacon, Plugo, Exotic Lemon
Texas Revolution. Digital reproduction of the Come and Take It flag. ... As a symbol of defiance, the Texians had fashioned a flag containing the phrase "come and take it" along with a black star and an image of the cannon that they had received four years earlier from Mexican officials.
https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/Texas_Flag_Come_and_Take_It.svg/2000px-Texas_Flag_Come_and_Take_It.svg.png&imgrefurl=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_and_take_it&h=1333&w=2000&tbnid=0oIzSaQseMI8JM:&tbnh=160&tbnw=240&docid=NTH338L3glyDRM&usg=__XE2v6d1TbM0vSK4MFMBiL8GQ3Eg=&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjHkOLAiqvPAhVDWCYKHTDMBE8Q9QEISjAA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsden_flag
I say this poll is outdated. We need new, individual candidacy announcement polls for each government position.
To streamline the process, we can have the candidacy announcement polls in MC, and the actual election polls in TMC. This way we can run them concurrently (example, having the election poll for defense minister here, and having candidacy announcement poll for foreign minister in MC)
Plugo, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
we still never re did the poll for the k reich embassy
Exotic Lemon
I agree. Telegram me and or forest if you want to add your name. I am thinking we start with foreign affairs, then defense hen the rest in order. We need foriegn affairs for this embassy trouble
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Plugo
I would prefer you guys telegram me, forest has more important things to do and for once my inbox isn't full
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Plugo
The point of candidacy polls is so that we do NOT have to telegram this and that and create a confusion. It's just a poll. Do you want to run for this position? yes/no.
You want to do the foreign minister first? Alright, let's do the candidacy poll for it right now in MC, and then link to it here on our WFE.
If you don't have access to MC polls, someone forgot and kept me as an officer there, so I can make use of that and create that poll if you don't have an officer nation there.
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
Put up a poll if you want, I don't know if I can. I just figured the telegram thing would be fastest for democracies return. If not there is no trouble doing it your way
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Plugo
I suggest we go ahead with the embassy poll. Ministers will come and go. But creation of new embassies cannot not wait for this.
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Exotic Lemon
I think mugwop is right for this one, we need a government before we worry about external problems. Internal problems will crush a region much faster than any external region
Malcholm, Republic Of Greater Cuba
Completely disagree, electing our officials is far more important than one measly embassy.
Malcholm, Exotic Lemon
Post self-deleted by Plugo.
I agree
Malcholm, Plugo
Poll is setup, please link it on our WFE and mass TG it.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=68971
Malcholm, Exotic Lemon
Can you? I am on my phone. If not I can turn on my computer and do that
Plugo
I think it would be easier to send a region wide tg asking who wants to run, then putting up the election poll in 14-24 hours
Exotic Lemon
which position am i asking about?
Also makes sure things stay transparent. That's one thing I don't like about this new voting system.
I think fastest would be telegraming, but more transparent would be a poll for candidates. How desperate are we for elections?
All of them, set up one like the old one it is just updated
Plugo
I think it would need to be 24 hours to ensure that everyone gets a chance to vote. Even then I think it's on the short side
Plugo
I still don't see how its not transparent.
Exotic Lemon
Same here. Normally I would agree with parakka and mugwop but I promised democracy back the 18th and it's the 25 and we still have only one election
Plugo
That's why I am suggesting to link this in the WFE https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=68971 and mass telegram it. This way we can make sure everyone can see it. I set it for 3 days, but I think we should only wait 2 days. This gives ample and fair amount of time for anyone t announce their time.
And [B]NO[/B], that poll was horrible. It did not allow some to try and run for more than one postion, should they fail in their first choice. That is why we need to have a candidacy announcement [B]for each[/B] postion and have it on MC, while the actual election poll for the postion would be in TMC.
Malcholm
Because the none WA votes have to telegram their votes, meaning that everyone can't see who has voted for who. Kinda like half the region have a public vote whilst the rest get to take part in a secret ballot if that makes sense
We make factbooks that show their votes though
Okay then let's not do that poll. I am trying to get democracy back fast but it seems no one is in a hurry.
You need to make the prime minister one, just look at forestavia's data.
Everyone is complainging about not having elections
Exotic Lemon
I find that non wa should be able to vote in polls. Now that we have solved our mystery puppet votes it is no longer necessary
No one said they wanted to run for more then one position, and putting your name in for every position isn't fair.
You should dedicate your campaign for one position, not just run for every position just hoping you will win one of them.
Not really.
I still say that the non wa voters like the system, so why should you guys interfere in how they vote.
Ahhhhh!*slams head on keyboard* can we make a compromise?
Plugo
No, because mugwop wants to take 12 days just to see who is running (3days for each poll, 4 more positions up for election)
There's getting democracy back fast and then theirs doing it properly. We can't afford to cut corners here like was done with the removal of the former government.
Personally I don't think that's sufficient, in terms of keeping things transparent. However, if I'm the only one that feels that way I'll hold my peace.
They should never have not been allowed to vote in polls, in my view because there was a list of voters.
Malcholm
You forget the fact that when the ACTUAL ELECTION happen for any said position, it would be one postion at a time. So having one candidacy announcement poll for all positions at the same time, when elections for positions are held one at a time, is completely nonsensical.
A bunch of people have qualifications for more than one position. If we have only 1 candidate poll, we will actually get less qualified people running. I am not sure how you can't see this.
And for the billionth time, noooooooo, candidacy polls will NOT be held here and block time, only election polls are held in TMC. [B]Candacy polls are ONLY held in MC, and a link to the poll is Mass TG'd to everyone, just like this one https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=68971[/B]
And I quote myself:
[B]"This way we can run them concurrently (example, having the election poll for defense minister here, and having candidacy announcement poll for foreign minister in MC)"[/B]
Malcholm, Parakka Northland
It appears to be the Gasden flag wrapped around a fascio. The namesake and well known symbol of fascism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascio
That's still 6 days but whatever.
"A bunch of people have qualifications for more than one position. If we have only 1 candidate poll, we will actually get less qualified people running. I am not sure how you can't see this." you have given no explanation.
No.
Look at the "come and take it" link i posted.
Its a cannon that was used in the texas revolution. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_and_take_it#/media/File:Texas_Flag_Come_and_Take_It.svg
Malcholm
Uh guys orca just fell
New Bacon, Malcholm
Oh no! ORCA is dying!
RIP.
Malcholm
I just sent a nation there to sort out solar alliance membership..... talk about timing
Plugo, Exotic Lemon
I am officially withdrawing and deleting this proposal:
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=forestavia/detail=factbook/id=649812
Malcholm, Plugo, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
How is it 6 days?
I said "This way we can run them [B]concurrently [/B](example, having the election poll for defense minister here, and having candidacy announcement poll for foreign minister in MC)"
3 days election poll for position A in TMC, concurrently 2 day candidacy announcement poll for position B in MC. (This process takes 3 days max because it's [B]concurrent[/B])
followed by:
3 days election poll for position B in TMC, concurrently 2 day candidacy announcement poll for position C in MC. (This process takes 3 days max because it's [B]concurrent[/B])
As to why it's a bad idea to make a candicey poll for everything at 1 single time, let me break it down in simple terms as to why it's a bad idea:
In a singular candacey poll. Consider yourself as an example. Let say that [nation=short]Plugo[/nation] is someone with expertise to be either minister of defense, or minister of interior affairs. However, you decide to run as minister of defense. Alongside you, someone else, who is slightly more qualified than you (Let's call him WopMug) runs for minister of defense. Meanwhile, 2 nations (Bings and Dingus) announce that they are running as ministers of interior affairs.
Bingus and Dingus are both extremely less qualified than [nation=short]Plugo[/nation] to be ministers of interior affairs. Meanwhile, [nation=short]Plugo[/nation] looses his election for the postion of minister of defense against WopMug, and moreover, [nation=short]Plugo[/nation] can't run for interior affairs either, and one of Bingus or Dingus (who again, are much less qualified than [nation=short]Plugo[/nation]) will become the minister of interior affairs.
However, should we have a candacey poll for each position, when [nation=short]Plugo[/nation] sees that he's not gonna be the minister of defense, [nation=short]Plugo[/nation] can run as minister of interior affairs and save us from the stupidity of Bingus and Dingus.
Do you see the picture now?
Forestavia, Malcholm, Civilisunio, Parakka Northland
Another poll option that has something to the affect of 'run for multiple positions' could be added.
I can agree with your poll thing if each poll is two (2) days.
Yeah I made the current candidacy announcement poll 3 days but that was a mistake. The ones afterward would be 2 days, meanwhile the actual election over here would be 3 days, or whenever all registered voters have casted their vote, whichever is first.
Forestavia, Malcholm
why not just re make it to be 2 days?
Thanks for setting the poll up over there. That was a good call.
Malcholm
Thats a whole lot of Plugo
Malcholm, Plugo, Civilisunio, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon, New Bacon Special Operations Command
Alright, well since there's only no votes, here it is https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=68978
Forestavia, Barishmacht
Well...ORCA's closing.
Malcholm, Barishmacht, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Plugo
I think I like the blue background better than the green background in the regional flag.
Plugo
I'm looking at this as an opportunity to unload some NS responsibility.
Malcholm, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Plugo, Parakka Northland
Can be remove the newspaper already?
you mean the picture on i?
I created a new political party to spice things up. Please welcome the Communist Fascist Party! Wahoo! This is mainly for RP purposes as our region is very freedom oriented. I was looking through the political parties and I realized it was all good guys, good guys, good guys. It's great to have a lot of good guys but sometimes we just need some bad guys to make things interesting. Just to be clear, I am not leaving the Minarchist Party or Spectrum.
Malcholm, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Lampar, Parakka Northland
0-0
Forestavia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland
Scary, huh?
Malcholm, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Plugo, Parakka Northland
I really hope bad people don't move in
Plugo, Parakka Northland
Does that mean that I can create another bad guy party?
Malcholm, Civilisunio
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Forestavia, Malcholm
Of course! Why not? We've got to stop these libertarians before people become free, happy, and prosperous. :P
Malcholm, Lampar, Plugo, Parakka Northland
I'm going to put in creation the National Communist Party of the Mystical Council.
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Parakka Northland
Excellent.
*rubs hands together*
Malcholm, Lampar, Parakka Northland
Gonna be honest I have no idea if you are actually still rping out something or your actually going to move socialists in here
Lampar
Democracy is dead, lol.
Malcholm, Parakka Northland
Most of this is severe RP.
I promise that I'm no commie.
Malcholm, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Parakka Northland
I would not really care if you were a communist
Lampar, Parakka Northland
Once we get a minister of defense we won't have to worry as much about people entering and causing trouble
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Plugo
hi guys
Civilisunio, Exotic Lemon
Hello
Good.
Maybe I am?!
O-o
Republic Of Greater Cuba
Hello how are you?
Malcholm, Lampar
Quite well. There hasn't been a crisis for 30 minutes
Forestavia, Malcholm, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Plugo
Check out the very first post made on the RMB. I'm sure you'll get a kick out it.
Malcholm, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Lampar, Exotic Lemon
Literally everyone in the region quotes that
Malcholm, Republic Of Greater Cuba
I'm glad that we agree on that, lol.
Malcholm
Not me
Yay! New nation! Welcome to our crazy home. :)
Would you like some tea?
Malcholm, Parakka Northland
awesome.Does this region have a high chance of being raided at the moment, because i checked and there was a high risk of terrorist attack
Forestavia, Malcholm, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Plugo, Exotic Lemon
Cuba's different.
Republic Of Greater Cuba
sure
Malcholm
We should drop the rating a little. [nation=short]plugo[/nation] has always been paranoid. Most of the raids are just rp though
Malcholm, Lampar, Plugo
Making a user manual for life
Forestavia
well thats good I hate getting raided
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Lampar, Plugo, Civilisunio
just like one of bricks
I'm still not sure that Naumadal was kidding about that.
He hasn't been the most active after the "raid".
But that could just be me.
Malcholm, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Plugo
Yeah I am not fond of it either, especially considering I would be the person overthrown in the raid
Forestavia, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Lampar, Plugo
Even if he was lying I dont really care. He has no where near enough endorsements and we have an active founder
Lampar, Plugo
It wasn't a raid.
The correct term is "uprising".
Malcholm, Plugo, Exotic Lemon
Somewhat...*coughs and looks at forestavia*
Forestavia, Malcholm
Judging by the fact that we have tons of influence, our Delegate and everyone else in the region have tons of endorsements, and the fact that I'm an active founder. I would say we're pretty safe. We could get tag raided, but it wouldn't be like a full occupation or anything like that.
Malcholm, Parakka Northland
It was an uprising for you but an overthrow for me
Lampar
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