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Region: The Mystical Council
I'm cleaning out some of my old dispatches. Do we need this?
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=oakplumington/detail=factbook/id=565851
This was from when The Red Fleet raided us.
Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Going to be sad to see everyone go :(
Forestavia, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Civilisunio, Rondaland
I think that one's OK to clean out as far as I'm concerned.
I might become less active depending on how things go but I plan to leave this consulate here until it CTEs.
Forestavia, Rondaland
I do not see it coming to do that.When are elections?
I think that happened last night sometime, as most who left have all gone to the same region
Civilisunio
Who has departed?
Be easier to check the regional happenings below the factbook than me tell who's left
Civilisunio
[spoiler]
3 hours ago: Alexderske relocated from The Mystical Council to The Geneva Treaty Organization.
•3 hours ago: New Mallow relocated from The Mystical Council to The Geneva Treaty Organization.
•4 hours ago: Captealia relocated from The Mystical Council to The Geneva Treaty Organization.
•4 hours ago: Emforia relocated from The Mystical Council to The Geneva Treaty Organization.
•16 hours ago: Alistia relocated from The Mystical Council to The Geneva Treaty Organization.
•1 day 1 hour ago: Amacha relocated from The Mystical Council to The Rejected Realms.
•1 day 2 hours ago: Captealia relocated from The East Pacific to The Mystical Council.
•1 day 2 hours ago: VirginIslands relocated from The Mystical Council to The Geneva Treaty Organization.
•1 day 2 hours ago: Teurs relocated from The Mystical Council to The Geneva Treaty Organization.
•1 day 3 hours ago: Northwest Germania relocated from The Battle Guard to The Mystical Council.
•1 day 3 hours ago: Plugo relocated from The Mystical Council to The Geneva Treaty Organization.
•1 day 12 hours ago: Amacha relocated from The Rejected Realms to The Mystical Council.
•2 days ago: Reinhard Von Mussel relocated from The Mystical Council to The Geneva Treaty Organization.
•2 days 1 hour ago: Reinhard Von Mussel relocated from Federation of Greater German Republics to The Mystical Council.
•2 days 3 hours ago: Civilisunioan Colonys relocated from The East Pacific to The Mystical Council.
•2 days 13 hours ago: Frankiestine relocated from The Mystical Council to The Battle Guard.
•2 days 13 hours ago: Vaspassia relocated from The Mystical Council to The Battle Guard.
•4 days ago: Emforia relocated from The East Pacific to The Mystical Council.
•5 days ago: Everloyal relocated from The Rejected Realms to The Mystical Council.
•5 days ago: Altmoras V relocated from The Mystical Council to Illuminati.
•5 days ago: Altmoras V relocated from Spear Danes to The Mystical Council.
•5 days ago: Order of Hospitallers relocated from The Mystical Council to Knights Hospitallers.
•5 days ago: Borbun relocated from The Mystical Council to Mystical Council.
•6 days ago: Borduria22 relocated from The Mystical Council to Elite Region Of Global Command.
•6 days ago: Zeareetoaseema relocated from Osiris to The Mystical Council.
•6 days ago: Alawite State relocated from Elite Region Of Global Command to The Mystical Council.
•6 days ago: Everloyal relocated from The Mystical Council to The Rejected Realms.
[/spoiler]
Parakka Northland
As soon as we decide on a dispatch.
Civilisunio
I did the poll wrong give me a sec.
Civilisunio, Parakka Northland
"I will fix this region, right now this region is running on one leg, i will fix that leg and make this region good again"- Civ, 2016, May Campaign for Delegate of Westphalia.
New Bacon
you forgot to add the part where the leg is being beat by multiple baseball bats.
Plugo didn't mean for his proposal to overtake au912's, but au912's is incomplete, so why would we vote for an incomplete proposal?
most of them left this morning.
keep it.
i just noticed something scary, the mystical council has basicly become rondaland.
almost no civil rights, the right to speak out against the government but take no political action, and a monarchy with 'elections'.
50/50 blame for this situation, everyone who has taken part each should share a portion of the blame. Shame we can't turn the clock back and go back to when the region was stable and had a fully democratic government in the form of the Lunar Council and Sentagon president and delegate. With the founder only intervening when nesisary. Seems this mess started when a small number of people wanted change in the form of removing the elected government and creating a new one.
Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Civilisunio, Viva Italia
Its mine. Everything was good till I came and entered my proposal. Pluto would have won if i wasn t here and it would have worked out, man, why does every region I go to end up crumbling in my hands? In sI sorry.:,(
It's not your fault.
Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Parakka Northland, Rondaland
No one is innocent in this mess. We could turn back the clock if the people wished it? New elections for the lunar council and Sentagon president etc. What do people think?
Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Civilisunio
No, because the problems with sentagon and the lc sparked the revolution in the first place.
Exotic Lemon
Things arnt any better now tbh. Actually thinking on it what were the problems, I know it's been said somewhere between 300 - 600 RMB posts ago but a refresher might be useful
I would support going back to the old constitution with voting rights, etc., cleared up. But I think after the crisis, there may not be enough public confidence to support attempting that.
Forestavia, Parakka Northland
Could there not be a comprise in the form of altering the current poll to include the option of returning to the old way with voting rights now cleared up etc
Just tagging you here [nation=short]forestavia[/nation] as this might require your attention at some point today (as I'll be off to bed soon)
If your doing that then it should also be added to stop the constituional monarchy. Seeing was the monarch has already done right after it was passed im sure that stopping the monarchy from being implemented could easily win.
I dont know how much longer I may stay in this region, people are leaving left and right. I wanted [nation=short]plugo[/nation] to create a new region but no one seems interested.
Lampar, Civilisunio
I am...
Civilisunio, Exotic Lemon
I must leave unfortunately. Feel free to join me in my search for regions.
do not leave yet. I want everyone to leave for a new region, one with plugo as founder.
Civilisunio, Naumadal, Civilisunioan Colonys
Post self-deleted by Northwest Germania.
No, come to this region my main is in. I am running it for Greater Cuba, please endorse me once you come, proof he asked me
http://www.nationstates.net/page=tg/tgid=17002148
1. Actually post what the tg says on the rmb?
2. Cuba said he is going to be inactive, so why would he be the regional founder?
Parakka Northland, Naumadal
Starting a region off with an already inactive founder is a very bad idea.
Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon, Naumadal
I nominate you plugo, to found our new region.
I cant view that telegram.
Civilisunioan Colonys
[nation=short]Civilisunio[/nation] seems like it could have been discussed first?
Exotic Lemon
No one can, thats why [nation=short]northwest_germania[/nation] asked for the contents to be posted.
Exotic Lemon
Nevermind. I have created a region, please come it would mean alot, I want you guys to help me rebuild a [I]Better[/I] tmc!:)
I would prefer plugo found it but I might join. I will probably be among the last to leave, as I am delegate right now.
Northwest Germania
no discussion on the name or anything.. :/
Exotic Lemon, Northwest Germania, Civilisunioan Colonys
Yeah can we vote on a name and founder before we start moving anywhere?
Northwest Germania, Naumadal
S!&;# I forgot. Alright [nation=short]exotic_lemon[/nation] [nation=short]northwest_germania[/nation]. What do you think we shall name it and such?
I think "the magical council" could be good, but it also could be kinda sad considering how we got there.
Civilisunioan Colonys
too much of a rip off
Parakka Northland
Yeah I thought so. But I am not good at naming things.
I understand. Please everyone, don't leave un till I come back, gotta go.
New Bacon, Naumadal
I have hockey tonight so I will not be on for a meeting unless it is really early or late.
New Bacon, Civilisunioan Colonys
How about the Remnants of Sol?
Civilisunioan Colonys
Or Remnants of Democracy.
So is the tmc over ot what???
Civilisunioan Colonys
Ummmmm...
[spoiler=HAha Uggh][nation=short]Plugo[/nation] I see what you meant when you said that the map was already posted, touché. But all the links are in green up there.[/spoiler]
Civilisunioan Colonys
Plugo left......
New Bacon, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
I think ,is, the people that are left should hold a meeting tomorrow morning.
Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Exotic Lemon
I am back from hockey
New Bacon, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Civilisunioan Colonys
I know! I know! I know! But he has a puppet still here called [nation=short]northwest germania[/nation] which will see this post still. I wanted to let plugo know he was right.
Barishmacht, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Exotic Lemon, Civilisunioan Colonys
We still have 65 nations left, but I wonder: how many are puppets, how many are inactive, how many are thinking about leaving?
Civilisunioan Colonys
Add another to thinking about leaving...
Kazukame, Civilisunioan Colonys
What I don't get is people are thinking of leaving which is fine I can understand that to a point, but at the same time none of you are actually trying to fix the problems here. From what I understand most founders would have ejected nations if they were talking about leaving on their region message board. Yet [nation=short]Forestavia[/nation] hasnt made any attempt to stop you despite him being accused of being a tyrant apparently, that should say there is hope that things can be fixed, if people want to try!
Forestavia
Ding ding ding ding ding
Correct! The irony is that the revolutionaries got the government they wanted and now they want to give up on it already. Craziness.
Parakka Northland
They got the government they wanted, not the founder. I will be leaving shortly, maybe retire from NS.
Barishmacht, Civilisunioan Colonys
Let's try this constitutional monarchy thing first since that's the thing that won. We should try to give it three months. If we don't like it we can always go back to the old system with some fixes. I'd really like to see this new system given a fair chance.
Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Parakka Northland
RIP
Exotic Lemon
If they don't like me as founder why in heaven's name are they here in TMC????? They should leave if they feel that strongly about me.
Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Parakka Northland
I probably won't retire but my activity will probably drop, just to clarify. If I cte many secrets are lost
Barishmacht
K
Exotic Lemon
They liked you until you started deleting polls and using your royal decrees way to frequently
Barishmacht
Are you seriously bringing this up again? Look, those decrees are not up for debate. The poll was deleted because we had two contradicting dispatches. Once we figure out which one we're going with, we can hold elections. Make sense? Something is getting lost in translation here. We're all speaking English but no one seems to understand why your government practically forced me into the position of making those decrees in the first place.
Tell me something. If you have two different definitions for the role and office of Prime Minister, just how are you supposed to even begin holding elections for said office? Don't you see how ridiculous it is to vote for a government when no one even knows what the jobs and positions in said government are? Logically, we need to narrow down which dispatch we're going with before we proceed in the elections process.
What don't you understand about this?
Barishmacht, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
Over? No way! We're just getting started! :)
Barishmacht, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Parakka Northland
I'm not leaving but we need to reform
Parakka Northland
Only You would say they are not up for debate. Not everyone else.
this post should have been suppressed
Just for claudication are people upset about him issuing the decrees in general? Or are people upset about particular ones?
Civilisunioan Colonys
Forest I don't want to get in an argument with you. I just voiced why people left. Explain it to me all you war but the fact is everyone left
Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Civilisunioan Colonys
The poll shows we want embassies with bunicken. I will accept their embassy now
Civilisunioan Colonys
Unfortunately. Look, its really hard for all of us to help when all we can do is [I]Speak[/I], arguments start to arise and their cause is [I]Speach[/I] we never had Represenitives that stood for the people on either council so when the people [I]Spoke[/I], everyone was in a
[Spoiler]ClusterF*ck[/Spoiler]
Civilisunio, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
So I think that overall the monarchy wasn't the problem, the people just couldn't get their opinions out without an argument which leads to more mixed opinions and an overall bad experience.
Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
This region's falling fast.
I would advice evacuation.
I'm staying until the major government nations have decided on a certain plan for a new region.
Exotic Lemon
I would like a new region too. But if we can't arrange it I will stay here
Post by Exotic Lemon suppressed by Domos Pinca.
Parakka do you ever sleep? You are on all hours even with the time difference
Civilisunio
Post by Civilisunio suppressed by Domos Pinca.
Remember, he has to wake up sometimes because of his daughter.
Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Parakka Northland
Post by Lampar suppressed by Domos Pinca.
I'll help arrange it.
We could always use the URN if needed.
Civilisunio
Post by Exotic Lemon suppressed by Domos Pinca.
And that is why I will never marry.
Civilisunio
Post by Civilisunio suppressed by Domos Pinca.
For me, I would love to have a kid. Especially a girl or a boy.:)
Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Parakka Northland
Post by Exotic Lemon suppressed by Domos Pinca.
you realize when you have a kid it is a girl or boy right?
Civilisunio, Parakka Northland
Post by Civilisunio suppressed by Domos Pinca.
I already did!:) but we will continue tonoperate her for a couple weeks and get this region up again.
Post by Exotic Lemon suppressed by Domos Pinca.
Would it be okay if I dismiss the temporary government or do we still need it?
Post by Civilisunio suppressed by Domos Pinca.
Lol, yes. I meant I would really like a girl, but a boy would definitely make me happy as Well.
Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
Post by Exotic Lemon suppressed by Domos Pinca.
I never want children, unless I adopt them.
Civilisunio
Post by Civilisunio suppressed by Domos Pinca.
Why not?
Post by Exotic Lemon suppressed by Domos Pinca.
I dont like children. Overpopulation is a big deal. If 2 of my distant cousins don't have boys though, my family name dies out.
Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Civilisunio
Post by Civilisunio suppressed by Domos Pinca.
I suppose I understand. But Whats not great about bringing a human being into this life and taking care of it, its hard work and may lead to overpopulation, but i dont care as long as me, and my loved ones and friends are safe and happy.:)
Parakka Northland
Post by Viva Italia suppressed by Domos Pinca.
We need the government especially in times of trouble
Civilisunio, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
Post by Forestavia suppressed by Domos Pinca.
It's just a very rocky period in our history. We'll survive it.
Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Civilisunio, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
Post by Civilisunio suppressed by Domos Pinca.
WE ARE IN DEFCON 1!
Vulnerability level: 1-4 -- 1
Forestavia, Parakka Northland
Post by Forestavia suppressed by Domos Pinca.
I didn't mean to aim that post just at you, Lemon. Sorry about that.
That was more or less for everyone, and particularly for the faction that is seceding from the region. It's heartbreaking to see a faction of revolutionaries give up on the government they fought so hard for. And yet, it would appear that the faction feels the same way about the exercise of my emergency executive powers. We should hold another meeting soon. It should be a very diplomatic meeting no accusations from me and no accusations from the faction.
I think we should call for some sort of truce. As a sign of goodwill, I will not issue any more decrees for the next 48 hours. And I also give you my word that elections will proceed upon the conclusion of the current poll.
New Bacon, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Civilisunio, Parakka Northland
Post by Au912 Mystical Council Consulate suppressed by Domos Pinca.
I used to think that. But it turns out the global population is stabilizing and will likely not exceed 11 billion. (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LyzBoHo5EI for an explanation)
Of course if there is a major event that changes the nature of human civilization (global economic collapse or war, medical discovery that would greatly increase lifespan, etc.) all current trends are out the window.
Forestavia, Parakka Northland
Post by Forestavia suppressed by Domos Pinca.
Ahhh! Oh, no!
*Hides in heavily defended bunker*
Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Civilisunio, Parakka Northland
Post by Civilisunio suppressed by Domos Pinca.
[nation=short]au912_mystical_council_consulate[/nation] [nation=short]exotic_lemon[/nation] [nation=short]parakka_northland[/nation] [nation=short]Lampar[/nation] what time shall we hold a meeting? It has to be around noon as i have to take a drug test in a little bit (football randomly picked me).
Lampar
Post by Lampar suppressed by Domos Pinca.
I don't mind what time, but I may be going out for a few hours.
Civilisunio
Post by Civilisunio suppressed by Domos Pinca.
Will you be able to be on?
Post by Lampar suppressed by Domos Pinca.
I might.
Noon would probably be the best time.
Civilisunio
Post by Exotic Lemon suppressed by Domos Pinca.
randomly? I can get on noon probably noon what time zone though?
Civilisunio, Parakka Northland
Post by Civilisunio suppressed by Domos Pinca.
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