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Region: The Mystical Council
You are not vetoed or interrogated buddy. I recognize you as an equal. I only wanted you to explain your actions before acting on them. This is a common courtesy that is upon you, [B]and me[/B], and every member of the region's government to uphold. It is the only way for us all to understand each other. And if you ever see me doing something without explaining it, feel free to undo it until I give satisfactory reasons
New Bacon, Parakka Northland
I would send you all to the Gulag, then send myself to the Gulag for sending you all to the Gulag.
New Bacon, Malcholm
Ive always thought that calling someone "buddy" like that was disrespectful. But maybe its just me.
New Bacon, Plugo
Mugwop there is nothing wrong with what you are saying but the way you are saying it makes it sound very aggressive and it really does sound like an interrogation. Whether you mean it or not it is true.
New Bacon, Plugo
We really need to speed this process up.
Everything just turns into chaos.
We get a good legislation, and then vote on the members of said legislation.
Boom! fixed.
Barishmacht
Some of us want embassies and some of us don't. It doesn't help that your official is spamming and bothering us
New Bacon, Barishmacht, Lampar, Plugo
Please don't send me to any concentration camp. I need to live oh mighty Mugwop. ALL HAIL MUGWOP *heehe snickers* that's the quote of the day [nation=short]Republic of Greater Cuba[/nation].
Barishmacht, Plugo, Mugwop
Oh, well I personally use it to call to all my friends IRL.
Please do send me a telegram about how you see my attitude as very aggressive. It might actually be as you say, so I would need your help to point it out for me so that I might better communicate myself in the future. I appreciate if you can point out a specific sentence that I said. Thanks.
Malcholm
Those two things I said were connected. Saying "buddy" like that is considered disrespectful to a lot of people.
New Bacon
Guys, please stop arguing.
It's not even about something relevant, it's just two calling each other names.
Our region is in a state of emergency, and we need to figure out how to get out of this situation, and into an age of prosperity.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Barishmacht, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Exotic Lemon
I didn't know that. In fact it's the first time I've heard of it.
Context of the word aside, does anyone else feel disrespected if they are called "[B]buddy[/B]"? Hell if a bunch of you think that, I will probably even stop using the word IRL.
New Bacon, Civilisunio
Me I don't have a problem but some people may take it in a wrong way;sometimes it can be due to culture as well. So we have to be careful at that too. Not everyone from nationstates may be from the same country.
Barishmacht, Plugo
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=687586
Government reform proposal, take a look.
New Bacon
Cuba is not a member of our military, why should he be head of it? If anyone it should be plugo, bacon or another member of the military
New Bacon, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Hmmm, Well I'm from 'Murica, never heard of someone from my country taking offense to the word itself. I have also come across many Canadians now, and they use it even more than us, exibit A: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuQK6t2Esng
[nation=short]Barishmacht[/nation], what part of the world are you from?
New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Civilisunio
I'm an American citizen as well. That's why I don't take offense to it.
Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Civilisunio
I don't think Oak has particularly defined himself as the head of the state. He's more of the watcher of the state.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Plugo, Civilisunio
I consider founder as head of state.
New Bacon, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Republic Of Greater Cuba
Hmmm, I suppose it is right technically, but Oak has historically established himself here as not the head of the region. We in fact don't really have a head, but I think in our system of government the delegate is the closest thing you have to a head of state. Which is kind of troublesome when we get raided and Oak sits back and watches https://i.imgur.com/NnoGhN1.gif?noredirect
Malcholm
Wait I am head of state?
Lampar, Plugo
On a technicality, yes.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Plugo, Exotic Lemon
[nation=short]Plugo[/nation] are you [nation=short]The_Mystical_Council_News_Agency[/nation]?
Exotic Lemon
Christ, you're all missing the point. I thought we got this embassy debacle sorted out months ago.
[nation=short]mugwop[/nation] isn't wrong for trying to cancel the closure of embassies, and [nation=short]naumadal[/nation] isn't wrong for trying to close it in the first place. As equals, you both have the exact same level of authority.Just as it's within your rights to close it, it's within his to keep it open. It is quite literally designed to go back and forth forever until public opinion sways completely in one way or another. That's how your powers work. You all have to get the approval of every other Lunar Council member when closing or opening an embassy, be it spoken or not.
If you don't like it, then change it!
New Bacon, Parakka Northland
All three of you are being used for the sake of example, I'm just tired of reading the same stuff every time I log in.
It makes me miss the good ol' days of being in the government. Communications control is a godsend.
Parakka Northland, Viva Italia
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=viva_italia/detail=factbook/id=686968
Malcholm, Exotic Lemon
I'll announce my candidacy. It's late, but better late than never, right? Here's my first speech:
I'm the candidate that will lead the full reform of our government. I bring with me a small government: a seven member Lunar Council. Oakplumington's deed are indeed noble, but balance and prosperity must be truly restored in order for our region to become strong. I'm the candidate that will straighten out the Lunar Council. Long ago I swore unto the Council a code of Ethics and Etiquette, and I now plan to make good on my threat. Months of senseless bickering and petty quarls will finally come to a close. I'm the candidate that will listen to the people—no longer will your voices speak to deaf ears. Proposing laws to the region will be no more tedious than lacing your shoes. Fellow men and women of The Mystical Council, I ask that when the time comes you'll cast your vote in my favor. I'm your candidate, and I will let nothing stand in the way of my service to the region. I'll be the one to bring about a return to the days of old. I served on the Council before our incumbents, and countless moons have passed since my departure. I was once president, and have served in all three branches of our volitile government. When you demand solidarity, I will be the one who provides.
I've got an old factbook on my views and such already published, so I'll get to updating it later today or tomorrow. If you're interested in aiding my agenda, the Piroshkianist Party is always accepting new members.
Plugo, Parakka Northland
No. I am
New Bacon
Malcholm
Since mugwops seat will be up for election through the 12th - 16th i think we should just merge exotic's and mugwop's seats into the same poll. Top 2 canidates with most votes get a seat.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Civilisunio, Exotic Lemon, Rondaland, Viva Italia
I agree.
New Bacon, Exotic Lemon, Rondaland
Technically. You'll have a different role once a new Gov't has been established for the region.
Exotic Lemon
[nation=short]the mystical council news agency[/nation] and [nation=short]Bacon Central News[/nation] are joint news broadcasting agencies. In control of [nation=short]exotic lemon[/nation] and I.
Exotic Lemon
Bacon central news is geared more towards rp. My news is more political
New Bacon, Malcholm, Viva Italia
but he isn't an official, he is just a noble as of now.
New Bacon
Yes! Debates are healthy, 3 month arguments are not. I'd have suppressed it completely and issued a warning to all nations involved. We've got more pressing matters than opening and closing embassies.
A thought on my Code of Ethics and Etiquette: once upon a time, it was common courtesy for a Councillor to discuss an issue with fellow members before taking action—or at the very least, state their reason publicly. Most actions that were made transparent went unopposed.
Civilisunio, Exotic Lemon, Au912 Anticom Expeditionary Force
Any questions for me?
Exotic Lemon
Yes! What are you plans in regards to our region's military? Your campaign states that you support a strong military, and further autonomy for it. What will privatizing the military do for our region?
Exotic Lemon, Au912 Anticom Expeditionary Force
[nation=short]waza wazu[/nation] will you run?
In the interest of free speech I'll let them talk. Besides they could easily unsuppress me anyway
Malcholm, Plugo, Au912 Anticom Expeditionary Force
Noble is a position of power, and he used to be an officer. He has become a major problem. As for embassies we stand divided and I personally support embassies, but without v Herrn they are kind of useless
Malcholm
[nation=short]kazukame[/nation] who is the nation you support on the poll?
I would only support suppression if the argument had gotten to where mods consider flaming (don't want anyone to get deleted for stupid stuff like i did).
Of course you are, we all know oak only wants to use his power in emergencies, other then that that is why the delegate is executive
Malcholm, Exotic Lemon
I feel that privatizing Battle Guard will give them more freedom.Instead of infighting over whether to said small regions Battle Guard should be able to make that decision
Malcholm, Exotic Lemon
I support Kakuzames idea for eligible voters
Our military was privatized before, the leaders of the military WANTED it to be the official military/
Malcholm, Plugo
Indeed we did.
We just got the military to be official, i will vote against any and all proposals to change that.
I do too.
I'm working on a dispatch on the topic
Malcholm, Viva Italia
I think he meant removing government restrictions and placing under control of one or two sole leaders, not disbanding it. His proposal says he wants it to be stronger and more independent. That's how I interpreted it
Just thought i would address the regional telegram that was sent by Kazukame, there already is a list that should be being maintained by the former Sentagon president, or thats my understanding of the situation
There is, but because of all the voter fraud that has been going on recently i think people consider that list invalid.
Kazukame, Malcholm, Exotic Lemon
That's what I mean
"they"?
If plugo's proposal had passed the embassy thing wouldn't have even happened, the minister would have made a decision.
I am going to toss my hat in the election race, i wish to increase the legislation voted on in the region and establish more rp.
I also wish to make it so LC members don't have tamper tantrums on the rmb (for example in the embassy situation, naumadal and mugwop would have communicated through tg's, not making a soap o para on the rmb)
Malcholm, Exotic Lemon, Viva Italia
I say call the election now and set up the poll
Civilisunio
So, basically my campaign, but stated a little more bluntly.
I could get behind that.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=687586
Make sure to support my government reform!
New Bacon
I like your proposal but who else will you have other than plugo
New Bacon, Lampar, Plugo
au912, parakka, and maybe mugwop.
New Bacon, Exotic Lemon
Mugwops term ends and he is not running for reelection. Also shouldn't the former sentagon council have at least one representative
Malcholm, Lampar
I had a plan if Mugwop wasn't running again.
For Kazume and Naumadal to have an election for the final seat.
Exotic Lemon
everyone should vote in this poll: https://www.nationstates.net/region=international_republican_union#pollid_67560
Isn't ANTICOM inactive?
Please check out my GOV. Reform proposal, which is updated and changed alot. It decreases beuracracy and changed the number of members in the lc.
Exotic Lemon
What does the minister of Education do?
Civilisunio
yup, i still think its interesting to see what people think
Lampar, Exotic Lemon
I know that you guys have a rich history with them.
Plugo
Polls, and mostly tells the news. So pretty much our news agency's. I just thought it needed a fancy name.XD
Lampar
So more of a...news dispersal seat.
Civilisunio
Yep!:)
How about you just call it the "Director/Minister of Media"?
Tumetu-Iin Noyan, Plugo, Naumadal
Not a bad idea, i added it to my proposal.
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=plugo/detail=factbook/id=683620
(i like the temp situation better then the last one, but i still support my ministers idea)
Barishmacht, Tumetu-Iin Noyan, Exotic Lemon, Naumadal
Your ideas for fixing the voting situation better be done by tomorrow.
Plugo
@ Lampar:
under your proposal:
- How do the minister of defense and the minister of war differ in their roles?
- What does the minister of the people do?
Plugo, Exotic Lemon
(the people councilor is designed to make sure that the voice of the people is heard at meetings. This councilor will only say what the people cannot in Council meetings.)
that's what it says in his FE.
and also [nation=short]lampar[/nation] since one of the positions is sentagon president what are your plans for sentagon?
Lampar
lmao, result o my last issue: The bum of Princess Olga has been voted the most recognisable in Borbun.
Republic Of Greater Cuba
Wow 6 candidates for my old seat on the council.
Malcholm, Republic Of Greater Cuba
very candidate, much election, wow
Civilisunio, Exotic Lemon
Plugo already explained Minister of the People.
The Minister of defense and the Minister of War will be partners, and collaborate together on raids, targets, etc.
But the only difference is, that the minister of war will lead raids, and the minister of defense will be second to him.
Exotic Lemon
I plan to continue to use Sentagon, but as a meeting area for regions to discuss matters with our government.
Plugo
Lampar 4 here, and awaiting assignment!
Plugo, Civilisunio
I recommend joining the battle guard
Lampar 4
Then I'll do that.
Plugo, Exotic Lemon
Just head on over. We are still in leave so enjoy
Lampar, Plugo
Anymore questions from the press on campaign or government reform?
Exotic Lemon
New flag is interesting, i like that it has the cresent/moon, we do have a lunar council
Malcholm, Lampar, Exotic Lemon
Well, if my new reform gets initiated, then we'll have a wizard on the flag.
Plugo
Any questions about my campaign? I haven't had much questions so i just want to keep checking in!:)
Malcholm
[nation=short]exotic lemon[/nation] probably I will vote for [nation=short]malcholm[/nation] but I am keeping my fingers crossed. Regarding [nation=short]waza wazu[/nation] yes I want [nation=short]waza wazu[/nation] to run. Let's hear what he has to say.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Plugo, Exotic Lemon, Viva Italia
Just beats me, why is a proven commie spy a regional officer of this committed Anti-Communist region?
Plugo
Who
Exotic Lemon
Who are you you referring too?
Exotic Lemon
he means me, he thinks im a commie
Exotic Lemon
Post self-deleted by Republic Of Greater Cuba.
Please do not yell at former ANTICOM leaders. As for border, I do not believe Cuba was a spy, I believe he was framed. He has done nothing to show even the slightest amount of disloyalty
New Bacon, Republic Of Greater Cuba
Look @cuba is my fellow lunar councillor. If you think you will be let go with whatever you say then you are wrong. He has worked hard to earn the position he is in now.
Dosh Semiw, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Exotic Lemon
Cuba do not waste your hard work by getting mad. I would hate for you to lose your position or get punished because you couldn't hold your temper. As for border, Cuba has been loyal. Until we find any proof otherwise he will remain in office
Malcholm, Republic Of Greater Cuba
Hello!
Malcholm
Please Vote Civilisunio when the poll goes up so you aren't invisible and so that all problems will be brought apon the council!
[B]PAID BY CIVILISUNIO POLITICS COMMISION
Kazukame, Malcholm
All people can change, we shouldn't hold a grudge forever over one action
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Exotic Lemon
Dammit that's enough. Stop arguing. [nation=short]Borduria22[/nation] stop causing trouble. [nation=short]Republic of Greater Cuba[/nation] calm the hell down like chill out. We have been trough enough arguments already.
Dosh Semiw, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Plugo, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
Thats not enough. I have new evidence of Greater Cuba cohorting with the TRF kind of guys. Beware of hydra headed monsters, friends. You wont recognize their true faces.
Greater Cuba has a long history of region destruction and he does it by infiltrating . Perhaps Forestavia would say, that I do it too. Yes, I do it too, but to topple communism.
If The Mystical Council does not want to collapse the same way as Cuba's Celtic region, you should be alert and take not of what I say. As Anticom, I am worried about Cuba's involvement in The Mystical Council. People should know Cuba's past. Plugo knows everything, but prefers to look the other way.
I would only say, in respect of Greater Cuba's unflinching communist affiliation,a curved dog's tail always remains curved. Someday TMC will be betrayed by GC.
I got evidence borrowed from one of my top NE commanders ( who has infiltrated a commie region).
Since a lot many of TMC's members do not know the truth about GC, I wish to show them the true face of one of the most slippery and cunning Commie who has destroyed one of an upcoming anti-communist region. Borduriaa will expose GC , even if they have to go to the mouths of hell.
I ask for the arrest of GC and handing over to the Rejected Realms--the dumping ground of NS. I have the highest regards for TMC because we are fellow Anti-Communists and Borduriaa does not wish to see regions with this tag being taken for a rough ride by closet commies.
Farewell and take care, friends.
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