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Gyuamno wrote:Malcholm

Alistia

Any legislation you two!?

New Bacon

Where are the roleplay and map!?

The Immortal Elysium

How are foreign relations!?

Parakka Northland

What is the state of our culture!?

Terran Flux

How are the BOW relations!?

Let me know what you people are up to, you were elected for a reason!! Otherwise, BIG DADDY will drain the swamp and you can find yourself a new job (picking up trash!)! I'll get more interested Lunar Councilmembers to help this place!

Your enthusiasm is refreshing! I grant you full powers. Not quite the 1st of January but it's close enough. Merry Christmas!

Gyuamno

This is where we stand. Hope everyone had a good Christmas. Now it's time to get to work again.

[spoiler]

Are you in favor of repealing Greater Cuba's regional Anthem?

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=republic_of_greater_cuba/detail=factbook/id=698486

(A yes vote indicates being in favor of the repeal. A no vote indicates being against the repeal.)

Lunar Council Members:

Malcholm (Yes)

New Bacon ()

Terran Flux (Nay)

Alistia (Yes)

Parakka Northland (Yes)

The Immortal Elysium (Yes)

Gyuamno (Yes)

Currently: 5 - 1 with 1 not voting.

[/spoiler]

Status: PASSED by the Lunar Council

Delegate Emperor Terran Flux: VETOED

Does the Lunar Council wish to attempt to override the Delegate's veto by sending the repeal to the Nobility?

Yes indicates in favor of sending the repeal to the Nobility (stands ground against the delegate).

No indicates against sending the repeal to the Nobility (acquiesces to the veto of the Delegate Emperor).

Lunar Council Members:

Malcholm Resigned

New Bacon Resigned

Terran Flux No

Alistia Yes

Parakka Northland Yes

The Immortal Elysium

Gyuamno Yes

Currently: 3 - 1 with 1 not voting.

The Repeal Attempt has Passed the Lunar Council!

Now the Nobility will have the final say.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=109365

No votes recorded. Means a default tie.

(This post will be updated as the Lunar Council members cast their votes.)

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QUICK SUMMARY IN CASE YOU'RE WONDERING WHAT'S GOING ON

The Lunar Council is trying to repeal the regional anthem.

Former Emperor Delegate Terran Flux took a stand against the Council and vetoed the repeal attempt.

Now the bill to repeal the regional anthem is back on the desks of the Lunar Council members who are deciding whether to fight the former Emperor Delegate's veto by sending it to the Nobility (WA nations) or whether to allow the regional anthem to continue to exist.

Gyuamno wrote:Oakmeister and I will be meeting this week to figure how best to move forward!

We have so much to talk about.

Edit: I'm thinking about adding two justices to sit on the bench with me if we can get the region's population above 50 but by the looks of things I don't think that is going to happen.

Gyuamno, Alpha Wolf

Oakplumington wrote:QUICK SUMMARY IN CASE YOU'RE WONDERING WHAT'S GOING ON

The Lunar Council is trying to repeal the regional anthem.

Former Emperor Delegate Terran Flux took a stand against the Council and vetoed the repeal attempt.

Now the bill to repeal the regional anthem is back on the desks of the Lunar Council members who are deciding whether to fight the former Emperor Delegate's veto by sending it to the Nobility (WA nations) or whether to allow the regional anthem to continue to exist.

Yes

Malcholm wrote:I think writing and passing legislation lost priority when the Lunar Council lost direct authority over the region. Sure, we could be, but I'd rather be devoting my time and effort to places where I know it'll directly have a positive effect--i.e., being part of and participating in warden command and rebuilding my own region. I'll be honest, I'm more or less importing a lot of what TMC was before the 'State of Emergency.' I still believe there was hope for that system to pull through and mature to the point where it was functional.

Fixed for clarity and engaging in regional discussion.

Post self-deleted by Malcholm.

Oakplumington wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=region_control/region=the_mystical_council

The Administration page begs to differ. The fact that you are both members of the Lunar Council grants you the right to legislate which by definition is governing.

But if you guys are unhappy here then leave. Contact Alpha Wolf. Alpha has a pretty solid plan for a merge. TMC isn't merging but if enough of us leave for Alpha's region then perhaps TMC can become an autonomous colony of The Wolf Clan.

*Grumbles* Something something Merry Christmas ththejha;ltkjatijhjant;akghjjs;kalasmfv;ek;jkant;klj....

I'll be straight. AW isn't my favorite due to his history alone. I don't think a merge with the Wolf Clan is a direction TMC should be headed, or even consider for that matter. That'd just be giving up, and it's not something I'd like us to be known for. Saying that feels redundant, maybe even hypocritical based on how little I've participated since the Emergency was reinstated. It's what I feel though. I suppose that matters. Malcholm's permanent home is TMC. I'm planted here no matter the situation.

Edit: *grumbles* Murry Chrysler, old fart.

Alistia, Oakplumington, Parakka Northland

Malcholm wrote:I'll be straight. AW isn't my favorite due to his history alone. I don't think a merge with the Wolf Clan is a direction TMC should be headed, or even consider for that matter. That'd just be giving up, and it's not something I'd like us to be known for. Saying that feels redundant, maybe even hypocritical based on how little I've partipated since

Understand your concern about some of my past history but I can asure you that we arent moving again. The Wolf Clan is my final home region, I promised several that this is it and this is it.

TENDIES OR NUGS? VOTE HERE : https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=109185

Gyuamno, Oakplumington

Oakplumington wrote:This is where we stand. Hope everyone had a good Christmas. Now it's time to get to work again.

[spoiler]

Are you in favor of repealing Greater Cuba's regional Anthem?

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=republic_of_greater_cuba/detail=factbook/id=698486

(A yes vote indicates being in favor of the repeal. A no vote indicates being against the repeal.)

Lunar Council Members:

Malcholm (Yes)

New Bacon ()

Terran Flux (Nay)

Alistia (Yes)

Parakka Northland (Yes)

The Immortal Elysium (Yes)

Gyuamno (Yes)

Currently: 5 - 1 with 1 not voting.

[/spoiler]

Status: PASSED by the Lunar Council

Delegate Emperor Terran Flux: VETOED

Does the Lunar Council wish to attempt to override the Delegate's veto by sending the repeal to the Nobility?

Yes indicates in favor of sending the repeal to the Nobility (stands ground against the delegate).

No indicates against sending the repeal to the Nobility (acquiesces to the veto of the Delegate Emperor).

Lunar Council Members:

Malcholm

New Bacon

Terran Flux

Alistia

Parakka Northland

The Immortal Elysium

Gyuamno

Currently: 0 - 0 with 7 not voting.

(This post will be updated as the Lunar Council members cast their votes.)

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QUICK SUMMARY IN CASE YOU'RE WONDERING WHAT'S GOING ON

The Lunar Council is trying to repeal the regional anthem.

Former Emperor Delegate Terran Flux took a stand against the Council and vetoed the repeal attempt.

Now the bill to repeal the regional anthem is back on the desks of the Lunar Council members who are deciding whether to fight the former Emperor Delegate's veto by sending it to the Nobility (WA nations) or whether to allow the regional anthem to continue to exist.

Yes

Oakplumington wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=region_control/region=the_mystical_council

The Administration page begs to differ. The fact that you are both members of the Lunar Council grants you the right to legislate which by definition is governing.

But if you guys are unhappy here then leave. Contact Alpha Wolf. Alpha has a pretty solid plan for a merge. TMC isn't merging but if enough of us leave for Alpha's region then perhaps TMC can become an autonomous colony of The Wolf Clan.

*Grumbles* Something something Merry Christmas ththejha;ltkjatijhjant;akghjjs;kalasmfv;ek;jkant;klj....

Merging with alpha? Ha! Have fun.

When me an lemons region merged with alpha, he banned everyone and closed it down a couple months in, which was why i made this my main region, and why lemon, barishmacht and more came here.

New Bacon, Oakplumington, Alpha Wolf, Exotic Lemon

Oakplumington wrote:This is where we stand. Hope everyone had a good Christmas. Now it's time to get to work again.

[spoiler]

Are you in favor of repealing Greater Cuba's regional Anthem?

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=republic_of_greater_cuba/detail=factbook/id=698486

(A yes vote indicates being in favor of the repeal. A no vote indicates being against the repeal.)

Lunar Council Members:

Malcholm (Yes)

New Bacon ()

Terran Flux (Nay)

Alistia (Yes)

Parakka Northland (Yes)

The Immortal Elysium (Yes)

Gyuamno (Yes)

Currently: 5 - 1 with 1 not voting.

[/spoiler]

Status: PASSED by the Lunar Council

Delegate Emperor Terran Flux: VETOED

Does the Lunar Council wish to attempt to override the Delegate's veto by sending the repeal to the Nobility?

Yes indicates in favor of sending the repeal to the Nobility (stands ground against the delegate).

No indicates against sending the repeal to the Nobility (acquiesces to the veto of the Delegate Emperor).

Lunar Council Members:

Malcholm

New Bacon

Terran Flux

Alistia

Parakka Northland

The Immortal Elysium

Gyuamno

Currently: 0 - 0 with 7 not voting.

(This post will be updated as the Lunar Council members cast their votes.)

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QUICK SUMMARY IN CASE YOU'RE WONDERING WHAT'S GOING ON

The Lunar Council is trying to repeal the regional anthem.

Former Emperor Delegate Terran Flux took a stand against the Council and vetoed the repeal attempt.

Now the bill to repeal the regional anthem is back on the desks of the Lunar Council members who are deciding whether to fight the former Emperor Delegate's veto by sending it to the Nobility (WA nations) or whether to allow the regional anthem to continue to exist.

Yes

Oakplumington wrote:We have so much to talk about.

Edit: I'm thinking about adding two justices to sit on the bench with me if we can get the region's population above 50 but by the looks of things I don't think that is going to happen.

Just a reminder, me malcholm and bacon are the 3 legal justices in the region.

New Bacon, Oakplumington

Alistia wrote:Merging with alpha? Ha! Have fun.

When me an lemons region merged with alpha, he banned everyone and closed it down a couple months in, which was why i made this my main region, and why lemon, barishmacht and more came here.

There was a little bit more to it than that. Such as govt officials running for office then just sitting idle, more or less a popularity contest to see who got office. Nation's doing rogue military assignments and etc. And for the record, I walked away and said the people could have it until several were running off at the mouth. A region of that size should have been active as ever but when a lot of behind the scenes stuff goes on and not in a good way, it takes a toll.

But believe what you want. I'm here and I offered.

Gyuamno

Malcholm wrote:Fixed for clarity and engaging in regional discussion.

Regional discussion, eh? How about we just wing it for awhile? Do we really need a government?

Get your flyswatters ready people cause I'm sure the fleeters will be paying us a visit in no time at all! We're gonna fight the commies right here in our own home turf. And we're gonna win!

Alpha Wolf wrote:There was a little bit more to it than that. Such as govt officials running for office then just sitting idle, more or less a popularity contest to see who got office. Nation's doing rogue military assignments and etc. And for the record, I walked away and said the people could have it until several were running off at the mouth. A region of that size should have been active as ever but when a lot of behind the scenes stuff goes on and not in a good way, it takes a toll.

But believe what you want. I'm here and I offered.

I feel you Alpha. Sometimes I feel like there's a lot of chit chat going on behind my back in places like discord. I'm right there with you.

So um, yeah... once this place is completely obliterated because of our various weaknesses. Youuuuuuu wanna make us your colony? We could be a shared colony. Maybe jointly governed by Mugwop, Pyrosky, Parakka, you, and me? After we successfully defeat the fleeters of course.

I got a whole bunch of ideas for a merge. How about The Mystical Council merges into the multiverse surrounding it? Huh? In case we don't survive the attacks that will inevitably come from the left.

Alpha Wolf

*Rubs hands together*

I think things are really going to turn around for us now. I have a good feeling deep down inside. It just goes to show no matter what happens you just gotta keep trying stuff until things fall into place. :)

Our plummeting regional population? - not a concern.

Increasing apathy? - fixed.

Not happy with my government? - here's a new hat!

Lack of regional identity? - Let's take confusion to a level never seen before!

You R/D people want to participate in military operations? - Here's a war for you. Might need to create a regional military while we're at it.

Don't like the constitution I wrote? - *throws it in the fire*

Thinking about merging? Giving up? Leaving? Returning? Resigning? Splitting apart? You have questions. I have answers.

The possibilities are infinite. TMC today. TMC tomorrow. TMC Forever!

I want Big Daddy's opinion on all this nonsense.

Gyuamno, Alpha Wolf, Parakka Northland

Worris wrote:TENDIES OR NUGS? VOTE HERE : https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=109185

I need something a little firmer to work with. A little less abstract, if you will. Right now I have a choice between one syllable or two syllables. I don't like those options! Not good odds either. It's like 50-50. The world's most brilliant minds might actually have a tough time with this one. It's deep, man. Real deep.

Alpha Wolf

Alistia wrote:Just a reminder, me malcholm and bacon are the 3 legal justices in the region.

Those days went bye bye. We don't even have a government at this point! Are you still working on that EPA update? It's due by...last week.

*Snaps fingers*

You've got to get this done. You made that law your baby. Don't give it up for adoption! Protect it. Nurture it.

Alpha Wolf

Oakplumington wrote:I feel you Alpha. Sometimes I feel like there's a lot of chit chat going on behind my back in places like discord. I'm right there with you.

So um, yeah... once this place is completely obliterated because of our various weaknesses. Youuuuuuu wanna make us your colony? We could be a shared colony. Maybe jointly governed by Mugwop, Pyrosky, Parakka, you, and me? After we successfully defeat the fleeters of course.

I got a whole bunch of ideas for a merge. How about The Mystical Council merges into the multiverse surrounding it? Huh? In case we don't survive the attacks that will inevitably come from the left.

We do discuss a lot on the discord. You are welcome to join if you aren't there already. But lately some of us have been disgruntled, and with mugwop gone we are getting nervous.

Alistia, New Bacon, Alpha Wolf

Exotic Lemon wrote:We do discuss a lot on the discord. You are welcome to join if you aren't there already. But lately some of us have been disgruntled, and with mugwop gone we are getting nervous.

You guys should join us instead of being someone's secondary colony.

Alistia, New Bacon, Oakplumington, Exotic Lemon

Mugwop wrote:You guys should join us instead of being someone's secondary colony.

Maybe. I am hesitant to leave my home tho

Alistia, New Bacon, Oakplumington

Exotic Lemon wrote:Maybe. I am hesitant to leave my home tho

That's why TF is here and I got puppets everywhere

*does dramatic hand wave into the sky, you see like at most 3 active out of 20 puppets*

I'm everywhere

Alistia, New Bacon, Malcholm, Oakplumington

Ferret Powers Activate!

Terran Flux

Exotic Lemon wrote:Maybe. I am hesitant to leave my home tho

Understandable. It's kind of like Stockholm syndrome or maybe like a labyrinth of mirrors and dead ends.

Terran Flux

*Grabs toolbox, sips tea*

This old wiring is really a fire hazard. These bolts are so old they're corroded into the Lunar Council.

*Pulls out blowtorch*

Big Daddy is HERE !!!!

*puts on spectacles*

Where to begin....

Oakplumington, Terran Flux

Oakplumington wrote:This is where we stand. Hope everyone had a good Christmas. Now it's time to get to work again.

[spoiler]

Are you in favor of repealing Greater Cuba's regional Anthem?

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=republic_of_greater_cuba/detail=factbook/id=698486

(A yes vote indicates being in favor of the repeal. A no vote indicates being against the repeal.)

Lunar Council Members:

Malcholm (Yes)

New Bacon ()

Terran Flux (Nay)

Alistia (Yes)

Parakka Northland (Yes)

The Immortal Elysium (Yes)

Gyuamno (Yes)

Currently: 5 - 1 with 1 not voting.

[/spoiler]

Status: PASSED by the Lunar Council

Delegate Emperor Terran Flux: VETOED

Does the Lunar Council wish to attempt to override the Delegate's veto by sending the repeal to the Nobility?

Yes indicates in favor of sending the repeal to the Nobility (stands ground against the delegate).

No indicates against sending the repeal to the Nobility (acquiesces to the veto of the Delegate Emperor).

Lunar Council Members:

Malcholm Yes

New Bacon

Terran Flux

Alistia Yes

Parakka Northland Yes

The Immortal Elysium

Gyuamno

Currently: 3 - 0 with 4 not voting.

(This post will be updated as the Lunar Council members cast their votes.)

-------------------------------------

QUICK SUMMARY IN CASE YOU'RE WONDERING WHAT'S GOING ON

The Lunar Council is trying to repeal the regional anthem.

Former Emperor Delegate Terran Flux took a stand against the Council and vetoed the repeal attempt.

Now the bill to repeal the regional anthem is back on the desks of the Lunar Council members who are deciding whether to fight the former Emperor Delegate's veto by sending it to the Nobility (WA nations) or whether to allow the regional anthem to continue to exist.

Vote YES!

Oakplumington wrote:*Rubs hands together*

I think things are really going to turn around for us now. I have a good feeling deep down inside. It just goes to show no matter what happens you just gotta keep trying stuff until things fall into place. :)

Our plummeting regional population? - not a concern.

Increasing apathy? - fixed.

Not happy with my government? - here's a new hat!

Lack of regional identity? - Let's take confusion to a level never seen before!

You R/D people want to participate in military operations? - Here's a war for you. Might need to create a regional military while we're at it.

Don't like the constitution I wrote? - *throws it in the fire*

Thinking about merging? Giving up? Leaving? Returning? Resigning? Splitting apart? You have questions. I have answers.

The possibilities are infinite. TMC today. TMC tomorrow. TMC Forever!

I want Big Daddy's opinion on all this nonsense.

I think it is time to drain the swamp Oakmiester! Few of the people here actually want to do their job, they claim they don't have the "power". You don't need border controls to write legislation you lump on a log! Get to writing, chop chop!

Shrink the Lunar council, expand the judicial, have a sole single leader to guide us. One who is dedicated until the end, not these people who get elected and sit idly by! As for a merge, I don't think that is our best course dear Oakmeister! TMC is unique and by merging with another region we may lose our identity that makes us who we are! Also, merging wouldn't solve much, because we will still need to sort out our own government.

These are my current thoughts Oakmiester, I hope we can talk more about this. But I am a little drunk atm. Tomorrow may be even worse HEHEHE

Malcholm, Oakplumington, Alpha Wolf

Creating embassies with fascist, alt-right, and hyper-conservative regions is going to put us on the radars of much more than just TRF 😒

I think it's time I resigned to being a grumpy old native. Suits me better.

Alistia, Oakplumington, Alpha Wolf, Exotic Lemon

Malcholm wrote:Creating embassies with fascist, alt-right, and hyper-conservative regions is going to put us on the radars of much more than just TRF 😒

I think it's time I resigned to being a grumpy old native. Suits me better.

Same

Alpha Wolf

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Malcholm wrote:Creating embassies with fascist, alt-right, and hyper-conservative regions is going to put us on the radars of much more than just TRF 😒

This is the whole point. We need to be on the radar. For over three years we've frittered away our opportunities by being too friendly, too free, too democratic.

We need enemies. Lots of them.

The more enemies we have the better off we'll be because the enemy of our enemy is our ally. So it follows logically that we will then have lots of alliances. The more alliances we have the more powerful we'll be as a region. And with enough power we will finally be able to fulfill our dream of world domination.

Gyuamno

Malcholm wrote:I think it's time I resigned to being a grumpy old native. Suits me better.

Minions,

You see what Malcholm did. He resigned. This is exactly what I'm talking about. When you start on celery you've to work your way up nice and slow. Start by nibbling on a leaf and then work your way to the stalk. If you go too fast, you'll end up losing it and jumping into a volcano.

Respect the celery.

Gyuamno

Gyuamno wrote:I think it is time to drain the swamp Oakmiester! Few of the people here actually want to do their job, they claim they don't have the "power". You don't need border controls to write legislation you lump on a log! Get to writing, chop chop!

Shrink the Lunar council, expand the judicial, have a sole single leader to guide us. One who is dedicated until the end, not these people who get elected and sit idly by! As for a merge, I don't think that is our best course dear Oakmeister! TMC is unique and by merging with another region we may lose our identity that makes us who we are! Also, merging wouldn't solve much, because we will still need to sort out our own government.

These are my current thoughts Oakmiester, I hope we can talk more about this. But I am a little drunk atm. Tomorrow may be even worse HEHEHE

I agree with shrinking the Lunar Council. We're down to six now. One of our minions jumped into a volcano. Maybe we could cancel February's election. We could just disband the Lunar Council altogether and have one all-powerful leader. NationStates operated for years without officers maybe we could go back to just the Founder and Delegate for awhile. You and me Big Daddy. All the power will be ours. We'll have first choice of the celery. It'll be organic.

I agree we shouldn't merge either but we should keep Alpha on board as a very honorary part of our government. The Most Honorable Minion...

Gyuamno

Exotic Lemon wrote:We do discuss a lot on the discord. You are welcome to join if you aren't there already. But lately some of us have been disgruntled, and with mugwop gone we are getting nervous.

Not sure if I have enough time for discord. I'm trying to get rid of puppets. I might let Oak cease to exist in a few months. Haven't made up my mind yet.

New Bacon

Terran Flux

The Immortal Elysium

You guys want to push this over to the nobility for a repeal attempt or not?

Edit:

According to the Emergency Constitution (which may or may not be the law of the land), Article 4, sec 6

"6. A member of the Lunar Council may be impeached by the Founder. A member of the Lunar Council may be impeached by the Delegate with the support of at least two other members of the Lunar Council."

The Big Daddy Emperor Delegate has suggested draining the swamp on multiple occasions and I'm starting to like the idea. I recommend staying active with these legislative votes or I may be so inclined to volcanically sacrifice my minions with this article 4-section 6 business.

Oakplumington wrote:Don't like the constitution I wrote? - *throws it in the fire*

Oakplumington wrote:New Bacon

Terran Flux

The Immortal Elysium

You guys want to push this over to the nobility for a repeal attempt or not?

Edit:

According to the Emergency Constitution (which may or may not be the law of the land), Article 4, sec 6

"6. A member of the Lunar Council may be impeached by the Founder. A member of the Lunar Council may be impeached by the Delegate with the support of at least two other members of the Lunar Council."

The Big Daddy Emperor Delegate has suggested draining the swamp on multiple occasions and I'm starting to like the idea. I recommend staying active with these legislative votes or I may be so inclined to volcanically sacrifice my minions with this article 4-section 6 business.

🤔 I thought we were done with laws?

Alistia, Oakplumington

Oakplumington wrote:This is the whole point. We need to be on the radar. For over three years we've frittered away our opportunities by being too friendly, too free, too democratic.

We need enemies. Lots of them.

The more enemies we have the better off we'll be because the enemy of our enemy is our ally. So it follows logically that we will then have lots of alliances. The more alliances we have the more powerful we'll be as a region. And with enough power we will finally be able to fulfill our dream of world domination.

I like this, we shouldn't be a goody-two-shoe region! We shall become strong and feared, let the enemies come to our gates. Our dedicated soldiers will annihilate them! Remember long ago, I made embassies with the mighty communists, they are good people! But many of you were against it. Time to radicalize TMC!

Oakplumington wrote:Minions,

You see what Malcholm did. He resigned. This is exactly what I'm talking about. When you start on celery you've to work your way up nice and slow. Start by nibbling on a leaf and then work your way to the stalk. If you go too fast, you'll end up losing it and jumping into a volcano.

Respect the celery.

The celery is an object of worship and should be consumed with great respect and integrity. Resigning is a most unspeakable act! I'm here until I go down on the field of battle!

Oakplumington wrote:I agree with shrinking the Lunar Council. We're down to six now. One of our minions jumped into a volcano. Maybe we could cancel February's election. We could just disband the Lunar Council altogether and have one all-powerful leader. NationStates operated for years without officers maybe we could go back to just the Founder and Delegate for awhile. You and me Big Daddy. All the power will be ours. We'll have first choice of the celery. It'll be organic.

I agree we shouldn't merge either but we should keep Alpha on board as a very honorary part of our government. The Most Honorable Minion...

My personal opinion is 2 Luncar Councilmembers. They should be our wisest wisest elders, lets built TMC into a utopia run by our wise elders! With permission Oakmiester I can set up a new government immediately!

Oakplumington wrote:New Bacon

Terran Flux

The Immortal Elysium

You guys want to push this over to the nobility for a repeal attempt or not?

Edit:

According to the Emergency Constitution (which may or may not be the law of the land), Article 4, sec 6

"6. A member of the Lunar Council may be impeached by the Founder. A member of the Lunar Council may be impeached by the Delegate with the support of at least two other members of the Lunar Council."

The Big Daddy Emperor Delegate has suggested draining the swamp on multiple occasions and I'm starting to like the idea. I recommend staying active with these legislative votes or I may be so inclined to volcanically sacrifice my minions with this article 4-section 6 business.

Weigh your options Oakyton, may the celery guide your choice. Too much activity is amongst us, maybe CHANGE needs to happen. Otherwise we need to whip them into shape!

Oakplumington

Also, as a notice you should all know.

I am going on vacation starting tomorrow (Today, technically). I will not be back until around Jan. 19th.

and Happy New Year's everyone. Here's to good health, peace, and goals!

Welcome to 2018!

Malcholm, Oakplumington, Terran Flux, Parakka Northland

Oakplumington wrote:New Bacon

Terran Flux

The Immortal Elysium

You guys want to push this over to the nobility for a repeal attempt or not?

Edit:

According to the Emergency Constitution (which may or may not be the law of the land), Article 4, sec 6

"6. A member of the Lunar Council may be impeached by the Founder. A member of the Lunar Council may be impeached by the Delegate with the support of at least two other members of the Lunar Council."

The Big Daddy Emperor Delegate has suggested draining the swamp on multiple occasions and I'm starting to like the idea. I recommend staying active with these legislative votes or I may be so inclined to volcanically sacrifice my minions with this article 4-section 6 business.

Tbh idk which side is which, i just want to keep the regional anthem

Oakplumington

Hey guys would anyone like to raid... can i get some raiders?

Oakplumington

Terran Flux wrote:Tbh idk which side is which, i just want to keep the regional anthem

Ok. Then you would be against the repeal attempt. Your vote would be No.

Terran Flux

Gyuamno wrote:Remember long ago, I made embassies with the mighty communists, they are good people! But many of you were against it. Time to radicalize TMC!

You may build some embassies with the communists. The way I see it, the communists will protect our region from fascist infiltration and the fascists will protect us from commie infiltration.

Terran Flux

Gyuamno wrote:I'm here until I go down on the field of battle!My personal opinion is 2 Luncar Councilmembers. They should be our wisest wisest elders, lets built TMC into a utopia run by our wise elders! With permission Oakmiester I can set up a new government immediately!

Weigh your options Oakyton, may the celery guide your choice. Too much activity is amongst us, maybe CHANGE needs to happen. Otherwise we need to whip them into shape!

You may begin a new government when you return on the 19th. We're getting there, we're down to five minions now! Bacon was the latest to overdose on celery. I'm shocked! I will definitely whip these minions into shape, Big Daddy.

*Lashes whip*

They [I]will learn[/I] to respect the celery.

Malcholm wrote:🤔 I thought we were done with laws?

Oh, um

*Quickly grabs and shoves a bunch of paper in a desk drawer.*

I - didn't burn all the copies.

The Lunar Council composition is completely different now! 5 members means that 3 votes have a majority. The Repeal Attempt has passed the Lunar Council!

This is how your representatives have voted

Gyuamno, Parakka, Alistia voted in favor. Terran Flux voted against. The Immortal Elysium did not cast a vote.

Now the Nobility will have the final say.

Parakka Northland

Forest only 2 people have WAs in the region right now. New Bacon left, and the region is barely 20 people including puppets

Oakplumington, Terran Flux

Exotic Lemon wrote:Forest only 2 people have WAs in the region right now. New Bacon left, and the region is barely 20 people including puppets

Interesting observation. I suppose if they want to participate they will bring their WA's here just long enough to vote before the poll closes. If it's not that important to them, then they won't. You see this is also a great way to gauge how important an issue is to the region. If apathy get's bad enough, people from a bunch of other regions might start bringing their WA's here before the poll closes. It would be quite a thing to behold if people from outside our region started running our government for us. With only two WA's they really could if they wanted too. Maybe that's the rock bottom we need to hit, though.

Parakka Northland

Oakplumington wrote:Interesting observation. I suppose if they want to participate they will bring their WA's here just long enough to vote before the poll closes. If it's not that important to them, then they won't. You see this is also a great way to gauge how important an issue is to the region. If apathy get's bad enough, people from a bunch of other regions might start bringing their WA's here before the poll closes. It would be quite a thing to behold if people from outside our region started running our government for us. With only two WA's they really could if they wanted too. Maybe that's the rock bottom we need to hit, though.

I mean I just don't like the WA though

Exotic Lemon, Raemax, Ancient Whispers

Oakplumington wrote:Interesting observation. I suppose if they want to participate they will bring their WA's here just long enough to vote before the poll closes. If it's not that important to them, then they won't. You see this is also a great way to gauge how important an issue is to the region. If apathy get's bad enough, people from a bunch of other regions might start bringing their WA's here before the poll closes. It would be quite a thing to behold if people from outside our region started running our government for us. With only two WA's they really could if they wanted too. Maybe that's the rock bottom we need to hit, though.

hmm... tempting

Oakplumington, Alpha Wolf

Why is it that every time Everloyal is revived, they're appointed to oversee some sort of military position? Military Adviser? Really? Nearly every other member of the region has more actual NS military/ R&D experience. It's unwarranted. Don't drain the swamp by muddying the water.

Forestavia, Alistia, Terran Flux, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon

Everloyal wrote:hmm... tempting

I remember him being banned once upon a time and under the authority that I have as a member of the Lunar Council I have reissued the ban. Naturally if my colleagues on the council feel that i was wrong to do so, then they can unban him if there is a majority or our delegate I suppose is allowed to also.

FYI Gyuamno and Oakplumington

Forestavia, Alistia, Malcholm

70 odd messages.

Apologies for being inactive, really busy at work. What'd I miss?

Malcholm, Oakplumington

The Immortal Elysium wrote:70 odd messages.

Apologies for being inactive, really busy at work. What'd I miss?

Not much, tbh. Bacon & I resigned RO, he moved out.

If no one else is going to vote then I will!

Malcholm wrote:Why is it that every time Everloyal is revived, they're appointed to oversee some sort of military position? Military Adviser? Really? Nearly every other member of the region has more actual NS military/ R&D experience. It's unwarranted. Don't drain the swamp by muddying the water.

Good question! Because of the following post:

Everloyal wrote:Hey guys would anyone like to raid... can i get some raiders?

The Battle Guard sat idle for months without any sign of life. Then this guy comes along and says, "Hey, anyone want to do something military-ish?" That post shows initiative. Initiative is exactly what we need right now. You can have the most experienced military people in a region, but if they don't take initiative, then that experience counts for nothing. That's why I appointed Everloyal to the position.

And that leads me to.....

Parakka Northland wrote:I remember him being banned once upon a time and under the authority that I have as a member of the Lunar Council I have reissued the ban. Naturally if my colleagues on the council feel that i was wrong to do so, then they can unban him if there is a majority or our delegate I suppose is allowed to also.

FYI Gyuamno and Oakplumington

While it's true that Everloyal was banned a long time ago, I don't even remember what it was about. Plus when Lemon was Delegate Everloyal was granted permission to have one nation reside here. So the ban was nearly gone anyway. The region is in somewhat of a crisis. Let's see... today we have 23 nations and only two of them have WA status. I think we could use all the help we can get.

I disagree with the action taken by the Lunar Council member, and as Regional Justice I'm going to lift the ban using the authority that I have, however if the Lunar Council passes something in writing banning Everloyal and you can get the Delegate to sign off on it (or the Secretary Delegate actually since Gyuamno is not around), then I will reinstitute the ban myself.

For now, I think Everloyal has fully completed his sentence for whatever crime it was that he committed.

Everloyal, you may return.

Build embassies with whoever you want. Let's try not to tear any down for awhile.

Terran Flux wrote:I mean I just don't like the WA though

The problem is every voter fraud prevention policy we come out with has holes in it. The WA is the only real way to guarantee the security and integrity of our elections.

The Immortal Elysium wrote:70 odd messages.

Apologies for being inactive, really busy at work. What'd I miss?

Welcome back! You missed some Council votes but that's about it. We're about done with the repeals. I'm going to look through my factbooks and see what else we can throw away. The purge is almost done. Gyuamno has a system of government that he wants to try when he returns. We'll try that. We've been having low participation. So we'll see what Big Daddy can do for us. I'm going to keep shaking things up for awhile.

I am pleased to inform everyone that the regional anthem has been repealed!

Edit: Hold up. Something weird is going on here. No votes were recorded and I voted and thought the poll had closed. I'm taking a closer look.

Haha! Looks like I'm an idiot. I moved out too soon. I thought the poll closed. Hm.

So what does this mean? We have a 0-0 tie amongst the Nobility. The repeal failed. The anthem remains.

So TMC so far is keeping the EPA and the regional anthem. Is there anything else we should be thinking about purging?

Terran Flux

I've taken a look at everything. Nothing is standing out. I think the purge is over. We could look at the political parties again.

Malcholm, how many members do you have with your party?

Exotic Lemon, any news with the Solidarity Bloc?

Made another mistake. For the first option in the telegram I didn't finish this sentence.

"EPA, regional anthem, founder's Emergency Constitution".... would become irrelevant.

These three would stay if you select the second option.

Keep in mind that this is an opinion poll open to All residents, but this is an important one.

Terran Flux

Oakplumington wrote:I am pleased to inform everyone that the regional anthem has been repealed!

Edit: Hold up. Something weird is going on here. No votes were recorded and I voted and thought the poll had closed. I'm taking a closer look.

Haha! Looks like I'm an idiot. I moved out too soon. I thought the poll closed. Hm.

So what does this mean? We have a 0-0 tie amongst the Nobility. The repeal failed. The anthem remains.

So TMC so far is keeping the EPA and the regional anthem. Is there anything else we should be thinking about purging?

I'm sure the council voted to get rid of the anthem.

Alistia, Oakplumington

Oakplumington wrote:I've taken a look at everything. Nothing is standing out. I think the purge is over. We could look at the political parties again.

Malcholm, how many members do you have with your party?

Exotic Lemon, any news with the Solidarity Bloc?

None. There is no one left, forest. Everyone is gone or too stubborn to leave.

Malcholm

Parakka Northland wrote:I'm sure the council voted to get rid of the anthem.

Yes, the Council voted to get rid of the anthem, but the government did not. Remember that Terran was the Emperor at the time and has worked tirelessly against all odds to protect it. The Council stood firm, sending a repeal attempt to the Nobility but the nobility did nothing with it. They took neither a stand for nor against the anthem. I moved my WA over to vote to get rid of it but I was an idiot and didn't stay long enough for my vote to get recorded so the final vote from the Nobility was 0-0 with the Delegate being against the repeal and the Council being for it.

We have a divided government. If you want to, you can try to repeal it again but I can tell you exactly what's going to happen.

You, Alistia, and Immortal will probably vote in favor of the repeal with Terran voting against it. Then it will pass the Council 3-1 with 1 not voting and then go to the Delegate. But Gyuamno is gone until the 19th. So acting in lieu of the Emperor would be the Secretary Delegate. The current Secretary Delegate is none other than Terran Flux himself. So Terran Flux will veto it again sending it right back to the Council which will then go back to the drawing board and figure out if at that point in time it is still worth sending over to a disinterested Nobility for a veto override.

I don't know how he did it Parakka, but Terran Flux seems to be a mastermind. He has been in the exact right place at the exact right time necessary to protect the regional anthem all the way through. It's really impressive actually.

Terran Flux

Exotic Lemon wrote:None. There is no one left, forest. Everyone is gone or too stubborn to leave.

Hm.

*Takes out measuring tape*

Uh huh, AU912, Bacon, Illfated, Mugwop...... Resignations..... EPA, Anthem, and Emergency Constitution..... 23 nations, 2 WA, inactivity,

*Steps back to take in the big picture*

Uh huh

*Ponders*

Yep, the situation looks pretty grim. The region is still dying. This happens sometimes on NS. Don't be alarmed. I've seen much worse. This region was a dead wasteland with less than five nations (and zero WA most of the time) from late 2014 until late 2015. So this is still a hip happenin' place relative to our humble beginnings. Right now we are on a journey in unchartered territory. This could be the most exciting time for TMC yet! And the good news is we still have a Delegate! So we should count ourselves lucky among the regions. :)

Terran Flux

Let's try something simple: For the officers with appearance authority, throw a flag up there for the region. Get creative.

For officers with embassies authority, find one embassy at some point over the next two weeks and establish relations with another region.

Oakplumington wrote:Yes, the Council voted to get rid of the anthem, but the government did not. Remember that Terran was the Emperor at the time and has worked tirelessly against all odds to protect it. The Council stood firm, sending a repeal attempt to the Nobility but the nobility did nothing with it. They took neither a stand for nor against the anthem. I moved my WA over to vote to get rid of it but I was an idiot and didn't stay long enough for my vote to get recorded so the final vote from the Nobility was 0-0 with the Delegate being against the repeal and the Council being for it.

We have a divided government. If you want to, you can try to repeal it again but I can tell you exactly what's going to happen.

You, Alistia, and Immortal will probably vote in favor of the repeal with Terran voting against it. Then it will pass the Council 3-1 with 1 not voting and then go to the Delegate. But Gyuamno is gone until the 19th. So acting in lieu of the Emperor would be the Secretary Delegate. The current Secretary Delegate is none other than Terran Flux himself. So Terran Flux will veto it again sending it right back to the Council which will then go back to the drawing board and figure out if at that point in time it is still worth sending over to a disinterested Nobility for a veto override.

I don't know how he did it Parakka, but Terran Flux seems to be a mastermind. He has been in the exact right place at the exact right time necessary to protect the regional anthem all the way through. It's really impressive actually.

Ok I would like to impeach Terran Flux on the grounds of having two positions and using said positions to be able to veto council decision. As your the man in charge, i hope you can take charge of the situation and restore some sort of balance.

Parakka Northland wrote:Ok I would like to impeach Terran Flux on the grounds of having two positions and using said positions to be able to veto council decision. As your the man in charge, i hope you can take charge of the situation and restore some sort of balance.

I'm not the emperor anymore though. Just the secretary delegate

Parakka Northland wrote:Ok I would like to impeach Terran Flux on the grounds of having two positions and using said positions to be able to veto council decision. As your the man in charge, i hope you can take charge of the situation and restore some sort of balance.

Flagrant abuse of the word 'impeach;' denied. Besides, your grounds for impeachment are no longer applicable, there's no laws by which he can be impeached. Proper usage would've been "I would like to call for an impeachment vote for Terran Flux.."

Terran Flux wrote:I'm not the emperor anymore though. Just the secretary delegate

I know and I was only calling for it due to forests argument. No other reason.

Malcholm wrote:Flagrant abuse of the word 'impeach;' denied. Besides, your grounds for impeachment are no longer applicable, there's no laws by which he can be impeached. Proper usage would've been "I would like to call for an impeachment vote for Terran Flux.."

Sorry for not using the propped phasing didn't realise it would bother you so much ;) mind you do have a point about there being no real laws by which to impeach someone.

Alistia

Parakka Northland wrote:Sorry for not using the propped phasing didn't realise it would bother you so much ;) mind you do have a point about there being no real laws by which to impeach someone.

I had meant to include a 😛 at the end of it, I guess it didn't paste and I didn't bother checking 😅 Must've had something to do with my disbelief of the fact that I was told that a single RMB post constitutes legitimate initiative.

Pokes Forest

I think I've tried to get this region involved with real NS meta-gaming a number of times. Where's my appointed role?

Alistia, Oakplumington, Parakka Northland

Malcholm wrote:I had meant to include a 😛

A vertical rectangle? Am I seeing this right or is it supposed to be an emoji?

Malcholm wrote:Pokes Forest

I think I've tried to get this region involved with real NS meta-gaming a number of times. Where's my appointed role?

Appointed role? Hmmm. Very well, then. But you and Everloyal need to work together. You've both tried.

LEMON! I want to get you in on this, too. You were a cofounder of The Battle Guard. Prepare to be promoted.

Alistia, Malcholm, Exotic Lemon

Post by Oakplumington suppressed by Malcholm.

Oakplumington

Parakka Northland wrote:Ok I would like to impeach Terran Flux on the grounds of having two positions and using said positions to be able to veto council decision. As your the man in charge, i hope you can take charge of the situation and restore some sort of balance.

You have to get Gyuamno and another Lunar Council member behind you to impeach Terran from the Council. But really, he did nothing illegal. It's totally legit to hold a position on the Council and the Delegacy at the same time. He was elected by the people to represent them on the Council and was also endorsed to be Emperor. Even though it's legal to impeach someone for political reasons, I don't think it's cool to do, even if democracy doesn't go our way. We'd be better off trying to push another repeal through the Council. Eventually it will go back to the WA nations and then the anthem will finally be repealed! We could try really hard. If we wait until Gyuamno get's back we'll have a better chance of passing it straight through without any veto nonsense.

Edit: Well, actually, since Gyuamno is also a member of the Council (in addition to being the Delegate) you would really only need him to back you.

Terran Flux wrote:I'm not the emperor anymore though. Just the secretary delegate

I love the flag. It reminds me of something TMC really needs right now.... A breakthrough!

Terran Flux

Post by Oakplumington suppressed by Malcholm.

Oakplumington

Minions!

I need one of you to draft legislation making Ferretism the region's official religion. We're not messing around anymore!

[URL=https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=109652]In about two short hours[/URL], Mark's fate will be determined. He will fight an enemy in the [URL=https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=109652]HOMELESS DOMESTIC FIGHTING RING[/URL]. And, it seems that the majority of voters are wanting him to pick a fight with a follower of the almighty goddess Violet.

BUT YOU CAN DECIDE TOO

VOTE WHILE [URL=https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=109652]SUPPLIES[/URL] LAST: https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=109652[/B]

Anything can happen now! We have an available EXECUTIVE Delegate position open to anyone who can secure at least one WA endorsement from another player. Prepare yourselves for a wild ride.

Terran Flux will serve as Acting Delegate until someone gets the support needed. Lunar Council members should send any legislation they pass to the Secretary Delegate for now.

Malcholm

Post by Oakplumington suppressed by Malcholm.

Oakplumington

We're going to be recruiter friendly for awhile. So if you see a lot of ads for other regions don't be alarmed. We need more exposure to the world.

#MakeTmcGreatAgain

#Malcholm2017

Malcholm, Oakplumington, Exotic Lemon

Alistia wrote:#MakeTmcGreatAgain

#Malcholm2017

Things are on the up-and-up, everything around here is looking a little more lively and festive 😉

Alistia, Oakplumington, Exotic Lemon

Hello hello! I see many things have been discussed. I'm back sort of for now!

Malcholm, Oakplumington, Terran Flux

Well that was short lived

The Kuomintang, Alistia, Oakplumington, Terran Flux

Selven wrote:Well that was short lived

I have R/D stuff to do 😛 i can't be wasting my time as a UCR delegate.

Oakplumington

Selven wrote:Well that was short lived

I'd like to keep our embassies actually

Selven, Oakplumington

Hope everyone's having a great day today ;)

Terran Flux wrote:I'd like to keep our embassies actually

oooooooo

I guess they're Holy.

Selven, Oakplumington

*Walks in drunk*

Uh, so. Hehehehehehe. I see everything is under control,. Couple embassies though. Something

Malcholm, Terran Flux

UCA is a role play region. I keep. Couple others too,..,.,.,, uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

All hail the Holy Knights of the Holy Order!

Malcholm, Terran Flux

Terran Flux wrote:I'd like to keep our embassies actually

Good call. This is why tonight yyou are mry hero Actually everyday.

Terran Flux

Post by Oakplumington suppressed by Alistia.

Oakplumington

Hispanyo says that TIO will support us in the event that the fleeters come flocking to destroy us. I keep! TMC will never forget the Lunar Admiral's attack of February 2016!

The first telegram I ever sent on this nation, was to Exotic Lemon, and it said:

"yeeeep"

No context is available for this message.

Malcholm, Oakplumington, Terran Flux, Exotic Lemon

Mugwop wrote:The first telegram I ever sent on this nation, was to Exotic Lemon, and it said:

"yeeeep"

No context is available for this message.

Great message indeed

Malcholm, Terran Flux

Oakplumington wrote:Hispanyo says that TIO will support us in the event that the fleeters come flocking to destroy us. I keep! TMC will never forget the Lunar Admiral's attack of February 2016!

That's entirely unnecessary. I wouldn't rely on Hispanyo for help, especially since it's nearly been two years since the incident with the Fleet. Your best bet is to suck up to the R/D community (The Grey Wardens, TITO, etc.) because they're the ones who will be able to step in and help the moment were in danger. As nice as it seems, your former Military Advisor advises that you just don't touch fascist/nationalist regions. That's the easiest way to get yourself targeted.

TMC is decently well networked in that community thanks to yours truly. A lot of those people also know how volatile you are as a founder, a facet of your persona that draws their ire >.> If you want a region to back you on regional defense, TIO is not the way you want to go here. We already hold embassies with TGW.

Oakplumington, Terran Flux

Forest why did you appoint two random and inactive nations to random ministries?

Oakplumington, Terran Flux

Post by Malcholm suppressed by Morrainea.

Malcholm

Exotic Lemon wrote:Forest why did you appoint two random and inactive nations to random ministries?

Oakplumington wrote:*Walks in drunk*

Though those actions were an hour after so.. ?

Seems like they need purged.

Oakplumington, Terran Flux, Exotic Lemon

We are the Holy Knights who say "Yeeeep!"

It's going to be a cold one tonight. Stay warm people.

Exotic Lemon wrote:Forest why did you appoint two random and inactive nations to random ministries?

I don't have a good reason honestly. Maybe I'm just trying to pump some fresh blood into the system? I don't know. I - Actually, just go with Malcholm's answer.

Malcholm wrote:That's entirely unnecessary. I wouldn't rely on Hispanyo for help, especially since it's nearly been two years since the incident with the Fleet. Your best bet is to suck up to the R/D community (The Grey Wardens, TITO, etc.) because they're the ones who will be able to step in and help the moment were in danger. As nice as it seems, your former Military Advisor advises that you just don't touch fascist/nationalist regions. That's the easiest way to get yourself targeted.

TMC is decently well networked in that community thanks to yours truly. A lot of those people also know how volatile you are as a founder, a facet of your persona that draws their ire >.> If you want a region to back you on regional defense, TIO is not the way you want to go here. We already hold embassies with TGW.

I know it's not necessary. But wouldn't it be fun? I have to admit TIO is a little on the extreme side. I guess I could compromise on that one. But Union Of Nationalists and Kaiserreich will be kept. We once had embassies with them both a long time ago and I caved to the fleeters on the first one and for some reason TMC decided that Kaiserreich had to go too. I am restoring the relations we once had with these regions before the fleeters started telling us which regions were "bad". We have a "National Sovereigntist" tag for a reason. No region will dictate to us what relations we can have with another region. That means, if we wish, TMC can have good relations with TIO, The Communist Bloc, and TGW all at the same time if we want to.

Speaking of TGW, I'd like to go on record to thank you for your hard work with TGW. You guys are awesome! Let's keep our relations strong with them. Be sure to give them my sincere gratitude. I know my - ahem - methods are not the norm for NS. I just don't do normal. I have a hard time with it. I can't pull it off. I don't even know what normal looks like anymore.

*Starts having a conversation with a can of peas*

Malcholm, Apostate

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