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Region: The Mystical Council
I have seen this region have three different wa delegates in 2 days
Malcholm, Oakplumington
What he said is true though.
He took the right course of action
Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
They forgot to add the option of when anticom crushes them!
Malcholm
Their cockiness is their fatal flaw :)
Malcholm
The Twentieth Delegate of The Mystical Council
20. The Snake Treaders: 2/4/2016 - 2/4/2016
The Snake Treaders ascended to the Delegacy. The Snake Treaders election was a means to invade The Mystical Council. The attack came by sea and many buildings were destroyed. The Lunar Council and President of Sentagon had their authority usurped by the 20th Delegate. The attack came in the wake of an alliance forged by The Mystical Council and Anticom several days earlier.
The Twenty-First Delegate of The Mystical Council
21. Everloyal: 2/4/2016 - 2/5/2016
After launching a campaign, Everloyal was elected and ascended to the Delegacy.
The Twenty-Second Delegate of The Mystical Council
22. The Lunar High Admiral: 2/5/2016 - 2/5/2016
This Delegate was the first to push the envelope far enough to have executive authority revoked by the Founder via emergency powers. After banning several allies from Conservative League and Anticom as well as the founder's puppet Forestavia and a resident/ally New England Bastards, the 22nd Delegate of The Mystical Council was met with the same fate. It was during this time that Sentagon Representative and Former Delegate Everloyal began working on an alliance between The Mystical Council and The Communist Bloc. A counterfeit government was also forced upon the region by The Lunar High Admiral. The Lunar Soviet idea was universally rejected by the region's older residents and allies. The Delegate also illegally dismissed the members of the Lunar Council and Sentagon's President New Bacon.
The Twenty-Third Delegate of The Mystical Council
23. Netherfar: 2/5/2016 - Present
Netherfar ascended to the Delegacy.
Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Nordrlond Armada 2Nd Division
I think this is up-to-date now: http://www.nationstates.net/page=create_dispatch/edit=497274
Let me know if there are any mistakes. Please consider voting in favor of closing the poll if you have not done so already. Send me a telegram or post your vote right here on the RMB.
Any resident in this region who wants to help with our defense should do the following:
1. Vote in favor of The Embassy Protection Act.
2. Vote in favor of the motion to close the poll early (right here on the RMB)
3. Apply for WA status and endorse Netherfar, AU 912, Everloyal, and Russian North America!
Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
We're going through the delegates like water.
Malcholm
Was this vote in regard to the EPA, the motion to close the poll early, or both?
I would like to add Global United Nations to the list of protected embassies. I know the founder there from ORCA missions.
Malcholm
I think I'm almost all caught up with the important stuff.
jeez i keep slipping in and out of delegacy.
We have to vote to close the poll? Wow this region is weird (I mean that in a nice way). Definitely the truest democracy of any region I have seen yet.
Well I vote to close it lol. And to add another poll that makes fun of TRF ;)
And I vote in favour of the Embassy Protection Act.
But I'm not a permanent resident of the region by any means, I am merely a soldier of ANTICOM. Actually, a puppet of the second-in-charge of ANTICOM.
[nation=short]New England Bastards[/nation] is the Navy Admiral of ANTICOM, I don't know why he's still here though... but he's with ANTICOM.
Malcholm, Oakplumington
Just make a newspaper
Malcholm, Anticom Naval Destroyer Squadron 2
Why don't you guys do it like we do in the CL?
Have the founder put into action the wants of the WA delegate.
Oakplumington
Are you guys okay over here?
Malcholm, Oakplumington
It makes your resume more impressive.
Everloyal
WA Member of Sentagon
Former Delegate of The Mystical Council, Delegacies 19 and 21
I try to stir clear of the Founder/Delegate monopoly on power. The Founder and Delegate already hold a lot of power due to the mechanics of the game. In order for them to use certain powers, they need approval from at least three members of the Lunar Council and/or a simple majority of Sentagon. This protects the region from falling into tyranny. Unfortunately, these vast freedoms and limited governmental powers can also be used against us by more sinister nations. It's also a slower process since it can take a long time to pass legislation and vote on things.
We're recovering from a series of raids but we'll be ok. We will persevere as always.
Why don't you reform your government into something we (CL) have?
How about you guys reform the government into something like this:
-None executive WA delegate
-Founder will carry out orders of the WA delegate (I.e. Assigning positions in government, laws, etc.)
-Three total branches, Executive, Legislative, Judicial, you can name them how ever you want.
-Two branches can veto a law or an action.
-Raider WA delegates are to be ignored.
-Raider Polls can be deleted at will.
-Raiders are ban on site.
I feel like this will allow you to stand up to raids better and have a more effective government.
- Our Delegate needs to have executive authority so that they can appoint their own cabinet members.
- The Founder already does carry out the orders of the Delegate as specified under section 34.
- Three branches check. The Lunar Council fills the role of judiciary when needed.
- Not only can two branches veto a law, or action, but two branches can also legislate and repeal laws.
- All Delegates are recognized and documented in our regional history/lineage.
- Any poll can be deleted at any time given two of the following conditions:
1. If 3 out of 5 Lunar Council members are in favor.
2. If The Delegate approves.
3. If a simple majority of the votes are in favor in Sentagon.
(If we can't get just two out of three of those, then we deserve to look at the poll for a week. With 1 and 2 we only need four nations to say "Delete that poll!" 3 Lunar Council Members and the Delegate.)
- With very extreme exceptions - and that red fleeter stuff was extreme - no nations are ever banned. The reason is simple we want our region to grow and we want to up hold the rights of even those we disagree with.
Instead of empowering the government over our residents, our system empowers individual nations over our regional government. That's the goal behind our crazy system of governance.
Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
I will put together a list of Red Fleet violations later tonight. It will be a comprehensive list of every nation and every constitutional violation/violation of regional law.
Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
I'm also going to be working on a comprehensive document outlining proposed changes to the constitution.
Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
The WA Delegate does not necessarily need to remain executive. They can appoint positions, and the Founder can do the actual appointing.
Just saying, as an option.
How about this: ANTICOM requests you take down the poll :)
Nordrlond Armada 2Nd Division
Because they are not the CL ;)
Malcholm, Oakplumington, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Hmm. Well, since you are currently a resident of this region, I will note your vote in favor of abolishing the poll.
But as for listening to other regions. Nahhh. We are fiercely independent. Only we decide our fate.
I'm cool with that. Although think of ANTICOM as more of an alliance of regions instead of a separate entity.
Of course, you guys get raided two times everyday, your constitution is hogwash
The Delegate needs the power to banject people from the realm without founder approval
Let's fix that.
But really, you guys have to give power to the government to ban/eject nations during raids I don't want to be here for a week raid after raid.
Oakplumington
I agree, but these guys seem pretty chill, and after all, they are perfectly fine. You should return to the CL now, these guys may have some weird politics, but they're pretty content. So let them do what they want to do.
Although I would recommend y'all take some measures against raids because they could theoretically take over the region. But to each his own, do what you want.
But because you have embassy posting with ANTICOM, we at ANTICOM would like you to ban any TRF members immediately, because apparently they enjoy
posting on the ANTICOM RMB and we don't like that :P Again though, to each his own.
Malcholm, Oakplumington
Post self-deleted by New Bacon.
the raid rate has been updated
Star Wars Battlefront Regional Borders are back open. Lockdown lifted.
Malcholm, Oakplumington
The list is posted with crimes. One thing, I forgot to include that I just thought of now is that when Sentagon President New Bacon was dismissed the red fleeters also violated the Appearance Authority Act. I'll add that later.
Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
We like to avoid banning/ejecting nations as much as possible but I think I might propose giving the Lunar Council President and Delegate the power to ejection for ejection and a ban for a ban. Since I can take away executive authority via emergency powers, I would still be accountable to the current rules and would not be allowed to ban anyone for any reason. But the Delegate and the Lunar Council President would because that's the only way they have to fight back against an attack.
We may set up a punishment system. This is really the Lunar Council's call, though since they are the judiciary. But I'm thinking something along the lines of.
Revoking embassy posting results in an automatic loss of embassy authority.
Abuse of post suppression results in an automatic loss of communications authority.
Dismissal of Lunar Council Members or the Sentagon President will result in automatic loss of executive authority.
Ejecting a nation will result in ejection as well as loss of executive authority (if applicable).
Banning a nation will result in a ban as well as loss of executive authority (if applicable).
I am pleased to announce that Sentagon has successfully passed the motion to end the poll.
Now hopefully we can get an approval from Netherfar before the update or an approval from Everloyal after the update.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
What should we vote on next?
* Section 32 of the Constitution Attempt #1
* A series of minor changes/revisions to the Constitution
* Bring those fleeters to justice!
Sentagon is only one vote shy of passing the Embassy Protection Act. (I've got New Bacon, Everloyal, and me)
The Lunar Council is also only one vote away from passing the EPA. (I've got Malcholm and AU912).
Please take an opportunity to vote in the poll over here if you have not already voted. >> Mystical Council.
Awesome! The RMB is free again! :)
So are y'all gonna make laws for banning raiders or nah? Just curious .
32A1 or the revisions. The fleeters can wait.
V. I. Misley strolls into the Sentagon chambers, wearing a slightly scuffed and dirtied Fleet uniform. "I vote against the EPA!" he bellows.
Forestavia
Please ban Swamp Patrol, he is abusing embassy posting. We will have to change ANTICOM to not allow embassy posting if this kind of stuff continues.
Shuddup Swampy.
IC - Forestavian Ambassador Brick Potato turned and looked, "And just who do you think you are strolling in here and bellowing in that manner? Don't you see the value of preserving embassies." He noticed the uniform. "Oh," he sneered "You must be one of those fleeters. Let me guess! You don't like the inclusion of Anticom on the list, eh?"
Brick Potato's reputation for being pro-ANTICOM Alliance preceded him.
Malcholm, Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron
OOC -
Our region has always been RP friendly.
"'One of those Fleeters'?" Misley spat back to Potato. "I was a member of the Lunar Council before I was illegally removed! My submarine sank due to an act of God and you opportunists used that as your chance to exclude me from the Council! It's outrageous!"
"Of course I am not a fan of ANTICOM. They have declared war on my allies and I will not stand for their attempts at aggression."
Forestavia, Malcholm
What does that have to do with RP? He's using your region to blab away on the ANTICOM RMB.
"Hm." He brought his hand to his chin. "I see. Very well then. We members of Sentagon are prepared to [I]listen[/I] to your convincing argument. You may have the floor. You can even use some of my allotted time if you would like." Potato sat down confidently knowing that the recent invasions and attacks on The Mystical Council would be enough to justify the alliance with Anticom. He smirked and looked at Misley with humor while folding his arms.
Malcholm
Ah- I think you missed it. Anticom doesn't like Swamp Patrol posting accusations on their RMB via embassy posting.
Post self-deleted by Oakplumington.
Misley took to the dais, smoothing his uniform and straightening his medals before speaking.
"I know that many here are angered by recent Fleet operations off your shore. I can say publicly that, as an agent of the Naval Intelligence Directorate, this region only came into the Fleet's sights because of its alliance with Anticom. Think about it! It has been over half a year since The Red Fleet first sailed into the waters under this Council's jurisdiction. What changed in the past week that would invite renewed Fleet operations here? Anticom. Just as we were content to leave well enough alone after you removed your embassy with a fascist region those moons ago, we would be just as content to leave you well enough alone if you rescind embassies with these ideological zealots."
V. I. Misley took a long drink of water, then continued. "Consider your reaction to the destruction visited upon your home by The Red Fleet. Consider that Anticom wishes to do the same to our allies! They proudly promote their 'Air Force,' which is tasked with raiding regions that are aligned with my cause! They even have produced a guide to make carrying out such barbarities systematic! Ask yourselves - is this an alliance that you benefit from joining? Has it brought you anything but grief? Will your allies bring anything but grief to the world writ large?"
As Misley descended from the platform, he grabbed Potato by the collar. His spoke in a hushed voice, his lips pressed against Potato's ear. "And one more thing: I want my seat on the Lunar Council back, you sonofabitch." He released Potato, looking the other man deep in the eyes, before turning and walking away.
Forestavia, Malcholm, Oakplumington, Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron
Yes we can, but that's not really the point. And we prefer to have freedom of speech and not suppress half the RMB like the RaB. We don't like commies on our RMB, suppressed or not.
Now we've had to (temporarily) change posting privileges.
Post self-deleted by Oakplumington.
Anyone with Border Control authority can ban me from the region, and then I can't post there no matter what their embassy posting settings are.
Post self-deleted by Oakplumington.
Forgot about that... will do so immediately. But you still have countless puppets who will get your way on our RMB no matter what.
"Oh, yeah?" he called after him. He reached into his pocket and took out a half-piece and threw it towards him. "That's for your campaign fund. Elections are coming up in a couple weeks."
Forestavia had seen a slight increase in the Socialist Party over the past few years. It was estimated in some circles that Forestavia's Senate would be 10% - 15% socialist within five years.
Socialist Party Leader Sandy Bernardo, sent Misley a letter:
"To the Brave and Honorable Captain Misley,
My party is interested in supporting your campaign for the Lunar Council. It is an important election, this year as we have a chance to unseat the sitting President. ChingisLan and Malcholm's terms are quickly nearing their end. Our job is to make sure that the end of their term doesn't turn into the beginning of another.
The Forestavian High Council is staunchly capitalist and will more than likely cast its vote for one of the sitting candidates. They will be strategic. They will cast their ballot in a way that will undermine your chances of getting elected.
Good luck on your campaign.
[Enclosed in the letter was a check for 200,000 Baps.]
Malcholm
"Founder abused emergency authority by unconstitutionally banning The Lunar High Admiral from The Mystical Council."
You would think emergency powers would protect you from banning a fleeter.
Malcholm, Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron
Yeah, I should've just ejected, dismissed, and removed executive authority from them. I have a feeling that it won't matter in the long run though since the Lunar High Admiral banned six other nations.
Malcholm
RP:
The press was in a frenzy as rumors began to circulate regarding Swamp Patrol's intention to run for a seat on the Lunar Council. Many newspapers vowed to vilify Swamp Patrol as part of the problem. One article was titled [I]Do you really want a Lunar Soviet!?[/I]. The Your News Forestavia Broadcasting Company held interviews with prominent Senators inquiring as to their points of view on the matter. Nearly all were suspicious and said that it wouldn't be long before the region would be infiltrated by "fleeters". "Any nation who votes for Swamp Patrol should be marked as a fleeter supporting nation," said Forestavia's Independent Party Leader.
Malcholm
polls been taken down :)
Oakplumington
And it all checks out, too. I'm glad to see the fleeter propaganda taken down.
i was the last one who had to agree whoops.
It's fine. The legislation passed through Sentagon since you ascended to the delegate's seat, and seeing as you're the delegate you were then able to pass it.
"Hypocrites!" The crowed was stunned into silence. The long-haired man had bolted out of his seat and pointed his finger accusingly at the politicians on the daïs. "Hypocrites all! Woe unto you who speak from both sides of your mouths!" The man began walking towards the party leaders, who instinctively took a step back. "You propose to defend democracy by abolishing it! To save your system, you would have it destroyed! To mark anyone a traitor for voting their mind is to invite tyranny in the name of eradicating it!"
The man whirled around, his hair flying about like a flock of crows. "And you," he exclaimed, pointing at the rapt crowd, "I beseech you to save yourselves! To support this measure is to cast yourself as your own hangman!"
Malcholm, Oakplumington, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Malcholm's Ambassador to Sentagon remains seated in his chair, a truly dark expression written all over his face. '[I]The audacity of these men, strolling in and telling us how our government ought to work.[/I]' He shifts uncomfortably—no, more likely he's got an itch he's restricted from alleaving. '[I]All of this barbed rhetoric, and I can't so much as utter a damned word!' The Ambassador had come to find himself in a truly conflicting situation: speak and be forcibly removed from the chamber's of which Malcholm's had no business, or remain silent and let his fellow men take every blow delt by these 'infallable' sailors. For the time being, he chose to remain silent.
Oakplumington, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Actually, I'm going to put a quick poll up for another day, Everloyal. Time expired on our Embassy Protection Act poll. Then you can do a poll. Then I'll do one on section 32. Unless anyone has any objections.
"Ladies and Gentlemen", said Au912's ambassador in a loud yet surprisingly calm voice, "Let us never brand anyone a traitor for openly expressing an honest onion. Let us instead brand them fools, or even dangerous enemy sympathizers, but not traitors."
He paused for a moment, then continued. "Yes, we have communists in our midst, and some of them are not ashamed to admit it. Personally, I choose to consider them sadly deluded. So ensconced are they in their beliefs that they lecture us on hypocrisy, while simultaneously shaming us for failing to uphold democracy and freedom, and supporting a nation that openly describes itself as a dictatorship. It is the state that only pretends to answer to the people that is the true enemy of the 'working class' they pretend to uphold."
Forestavia, Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron
It was Potato's turn to speak. He pointed towards a broken window high above them. "That window broke because of the explosions that took place all around us. Hundreds of lives were lost. Every one of our embassies suffered some kind of damage. Now," He took a drink of water. "These fleeters and reds want us to remove our embassy alliance with Anticom. To understand why we built embassies with Anticom in the first place, you have to go back to the invasion of our region by The Communist Bloc a few days before." He pounded his fist into the podium. "By golly, this is what gets under my skin! This region is so out of touch. Even my own country - I about had a stroke when I found out that Forestavia was going to cast an endorsement for our current Delegate. And you know what kills me?? Everloyal is from The Communist Bloc. But of course we [I]have to have rights[/I] even if our enemies use our own freedoms against us. To make matters even more confusing, our Delegate wants to create an alliance with The Communist Bloc to help defend us from The Red Fleet."
He took another sip of water and rubbed his bald head in frustration. "I'll believe it when I see it. But until that day I'll remain skeptical. I don't think we should be having a debate with a bunch a' no-good fleeters about an alliance that we [I]need[/I]...for our very survival."
He nodded at the members of Sentagon, "This is why our regional government needs to immediately issue an official declaration of war on The Red Fleet immediately. Let's show our allies at Anticom that we mean business by this alliance. Let's prove to the world that this is not just another embassy that we passively decided to build. [I]And if those fleeters want to attack us in our own region again, then we'll show them a thing or two.[/I] I propose, in addition to declaring war on the flipping fleeters, that we [I]also[/I] contribute forces to the Anticom alliance. Not only is our embassy with Anticom worth protecting, it could very well be the thing that saves our region and our free way of life from inevitable [I]doom[/I]."
Malcholm, Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron
The poll for amending Section 32 will be posted in our backup region shortly.
Howdy y'all. No school today due to blizzard. Yay!
Malcholm
hmm found out i was from the bloc eh?
Post self-deleted by Everloyal.
"Communist!" A crazy-eyed man jumped up from his seat. It was the delegate from Castlemaine, who slept through most meetings. He was now wide awake and buzzed with energy. "He's a Communist! Our Delegate is a bloody Communist! Look— proof!" He held up a piece of paper where it was marked that Everloyal was from the Communist Bloc.
"Get him out! The Communists are a virus that plan this council's downfall! OUT WITH THE COMMUNIST!"
Forestavia, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Post self-deleted by Everloyal.
I'm sitting in the part of the Midwest that got a measly inch of snow t-t
Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron
"That's what they all say! I can see right through you! Don't try to fool me! Down with the Com-"
The ambassador was restrained by guards and carried out of the room while still yelling and cursing Everloyal and Communists.
Forestavia, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
This region doesn't even have a flag lmao.
The WA Delegate should be able to have what ever political party they want, unless this region becomes a 1 party state
Malcholm
And considering that
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=transemilian_5th_fleet
&
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=swamp_patrol
are in the region, it might not be wise to talk trash about the red fleet
So? We can talk trash all we want, we're not scared of them invading us because we don't like them. They've already invaded us multiple times. Don't tell us what to do, son.
As long as i'm still delegate stay respectful,
Malcholm
Why, will you kick me out? :)
Kidding, sure :)
Thank you.
Ok what would everyone like to see happen with this region?
Oakplumington
In honor of the snow day, I will change my flag. I love snow days!
Malcholm
Welcome to the region!
The flag...um, we go through flags like tissues. Someone probably used the last one and didn't replace the empty box.
Any nation with appearance authority can create/alter/abolish the flag anytime they please. We've had some good ones recently. The Red Fleet put up one of their flags with little moons in it and Malcholm designed one that played off of The Communist Bloc flag. We are low on political parties, though.
I'm thinking about starting a Regional Defense Party
The RDP would be Pro-ANTICOM, Recruit soldiers for ANTICOM, would be capitalist, would be Anti-Red Fleet.
For balance, we could also use a Comrade Alliance (composed of socialists and communists)
The CA would be Anti-ANTICOM, Recruit soldiers for The Red Fleet, would be socialist/communist, would be Pro-Red Fleet.
Malcholm started a party called the Left Conglomerate. @ [nation=short]Malcholm[/nation] do you think the L.C. would be a good fit for our comrades?
Malcholm
If you form an alliance with the Red Fleet you cannot stay in ANTICOM, just to let you know. You gotta choose, mate :)
Malcholm is currently this region's ambassador to ANTICOM...
Still, sounds like a cool idea. I can be a regional recruiter for ANTICOM ;)
I'm thinking that we could use both political parties for RP or IC only. As far as OOC is concerned, we would not have an alliance with The Red Fleet but we would have an OOC alliance with ANTICOM. Wait a minute! This a democracy isn't it? Maybe we could vote on this.
I have an idea! We should have a poll for legislation - OOC legislation so that member nations of ANTICOM and The Mystical Council are clear on what's happening in our region.
We should affirm our alliance with ANTICOM.
We should affirm that The Mystical Council does not have an OOC alliance with The Red Fleet.
We should state that for RP purposes, In character political parties may be formed for both ANTICOM and The Red Fleet.
Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Castlemaine 1St Air Squadron
And we should go into detail. What does the ANTICOM alliance specifically mean for us and what does it specifically mean for them?
Yes please do go into detail.
Closing embassies with TCB? Cool, another step forward in Anti-Communist Action. ANTICOM supports the closure of embassies.
This appears to have been a unilateral action from Zenny, who is admin for The Communist Bloc, not anything anyone here did.
Malcholm
:)
Malcholm
Oh lol. Well thanks [nation=short]Zenny[/nation]!
Post by Order Of Hospitallers suppressed by Malcholm.
its kind of dumb to make scripted partys but it already seems there are 4 main ones.
The Red fleet and the internationale f*ggots, anticom supporters, bloc supporters(yeet) and the reg lunar guys
No, the lunar guys are the people who run the region, the rest of us are merely guests.
She probably had a reason.
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Written by Refuge Isle.