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Region: The Mystical Council
you should go too
Forestavia
Am I attending?
I'll swing by in about an hour. I've got to grab a shower and take the trash out.
I told you to wait and find out. Please be patient
Lampar
why does him informing USSD that [nation=short]stalini[/nation] had a puppet their warrant a case?
and if you are bringing up a case [nation=short]gagala[/nation], i know your secret, and i will bring it to the lc.
Alistia, Exotic Lemon
He threatened he would release info he had on us in exchange for protection.And everyone knows my secret at this stage
Alistia
can you give the link to this post?
Alistia, Exotic Lemon
I am in the middle of negotiations.Later on.
[nation=short]lampar[/nation] I may need you for the meeting
Lampar
Glad to help.
Do you need me now?
I need you as soon as forest gives me embassy abilities in mc
Lampar
You could ask him here
Anyone want to try playing a game I programmed?
It's called Cards Against History!
You can play it over IRC by going here and entering a username:
https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.esper.net#RomanCards
Anyone's welcome to join!
(Currently in Beta... It needs more cards still, but it's playable, at least. :P)
Forestavia, Alistia, Malcholm
He's also in the shower.
this region doesnt need to be spammed with the trial. If people care they will look on that region for info.
I can send my puppet into MC.
if gagala is fine then sure
We could get Lampar to move here
If you're okay with that.
I am
you can comment on there from here
Got rid of embassy posting.
I cant. I dont have embassies
what secret?
gagala is viva italia
Forestavia
The meeting is over. LC, I have proposed punishments I wish you to vote on.
Forestavia
Bunicken, gagala, and their region thanks us for hosting the meeting
Forestavia
If this is true and you can confirm it, Viva, then you will finally be able to vote. :)
Malcholm, Civilisunio
I just finished catching up on the RMBs. Sorry I came back so late. I got kind of busy with other stuff.
Lol.
Forestavia
The whole purpose of me getting rid of embassies authority was to prevent unwanted chatter from creeping over there from this region. I wanted to make sure that the important meeting wasn't needlessly interrupted.
Malcholm
I also read Ussd's RMB. That was pretty hard to follow to be honest but interesting nonetheless.
Malcholm, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Asturias And Leon, Exotic Lemon
im gonna run for minister of CULTure
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Asturias And Leon, Chutland
Post self-deleted by Republic Of Greater Cuba.
Happy Thanksgiving! :)
Happily inviting all Canadians to join us over here and to partake some delicious food this week. :)
Malcholm, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Parakka Northland
I forgot to link the region! Thanksgiving.
Malcholm, Asturias And Leon
Made up this alternate history idea for a story I may make about with Ireland dealing with a small Irish Empire
The place that would seperate this world from our own takes place during the Battle of Clontarf in April 1014 where Brian Boru (High King of Ireland who actually conquered most of the island) against Sigtrygg Silkbeard, Máel Mórda, who was the King of Leinster, and the Vikings of Orkney and Mann.
The divergence that does occur is when Brian Boru is praying in his tent when Brodir, a Viking warrior from the Isle of Mann, attacks him. Historically Brian was killed in his tent, but instead Boru has time to fight back and kill him. After the battle with his victory secured Brian Boru determins that he can continue to rule only through his son and grandson. He spent his final years tutoring them and establishing centralized training grounds for national armies. As Donnchad mac Briain and Toirdelbach Ua Briain come to the Irish kingship, they are able to solidify there control over the many petty kingdoms of Ireland and allow a centralised government to form conqueror most of Scotland by 1030 and they find allies against the common enemy, the Vikings, with the Normans, who recently conquered England fifty two years after the Battle of Clontarf. Soon after 1100, Irish princess Blathmin marries Stephen to become the queen consort of England, the first of many Irish rulers over the neighboring English. Ireland naturally becomes the center for Norse activity in the British Isles until the early 1300s.
The unified Irish then soon become among the first to follow Norman knights to the Crusades. Over the next decades, the campaigns would ultimately fail despite the combined forces of Christendom, but the returning crusaders bring back spices and technology that caused a hunger for more trade. The Kingdom of Ireland in response builds a sophisticated system of investment and shipwrights to transport their warriors to the Middle East and parts of the coast of Northern Africa, and these are turned to an sort of small Irish merchant navy. This also begins the slow creation of what would be called the Seaman's Court (Mairnéalaigh Cúirte). The merchants who make up this small assembly also provide a little more than half of the kingdom's tax revenues.
After being driven out of the Mediterranean by Iberian and fleets, the Irish turn south toward the African coast, trying to gain the few small islands they could get from the Portugese Empire with what remains of their depleted and undermanned fleet. The few Irish trading posts there are given up after the discovery of a New World across the Atlantic, where the Kingdom of Ireland become's wealthies through small coastal colonies based around small cities in what would be called Newfoundland, Quebec, and Nova Scotia, capitalizing on the fur trade.
Forestavia, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Asturias And Leon, Parakka Northland
Is it good?
Asturias And Leon
Someone please respond
Yes. It's good. I like it. :)
Malcholm, Republic Of Greater Cuba
Okay, because I was about to add a sh*t load of extra info to back me up if there was something I missed, like with England not becoming Protestant and Poland for some reason streatching beyond Moscow
Do it man. The extra info will spice it up.
Asturias And Leon
That would be a better version of prussia
Republic Of Greater Cuba
Really?
Asturias And Leon
Yeah, prussia was just poland and some of germany
Republic Of Greater Cuba
hmm, also now that I think about it, I do have something you may find interesting in the timeline, and that is Europe's religious background
Plugo knows a lot of history from what I know if him
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Asturias And Leon
But was my plot still good?
i learned most of that this year in AP European History.
Right now we are on constitutionalism in england, Mary and her husband William of orange just took the british crown.
We just got over anglicanism, calvinism, and all that
Malcholm, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Parakka Northland
This little timeline I will make, possibly on NS, would make Europe very...weird in a sense. With the Protestant Reformation not being as powerful since the Irish Kings dominate most of England physically, culturally, and militarilly, Catholicism is far more power, so only mainly the Holy Roman Empire and a few other "strongholds" or isolated parts like in Poland and near Dover
Asturias And Leon, Civilisunio, Parakka Northland
Asturias And Leon
Yes.
Anglicanism is when henry decided he wasn't catholic anymore, and made his own branch of protestantism in england.
Anglo Saxons where the original migrants into england in the 5th - 9th century so Anglo basically means english.
Civilisunio
sounds like a good world for RP
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Civilisunio
The Kingdom of Ireland would be mostly either Catholic because of early Papal influence during the "Dark Ages" or follow Celtic Christianity, so many parts of Europe are starting to lag behind due to Papal influence and corruption while Ireland would still be able to advance
If this happens I am Ireland
Asturias And Leon
That sounds like it would be fun to play in CKII
Malcholm, Civilisunio, Exotic Lemon
Civilisunio is based in an alternate history where America loses the civiI war, but instead of fighting for slave the confederacy fought for rights. Europe is also a tad different but I rather not get into that at the moment.
Asturias And Leon
Whats that?
Mostly due to there be a semi centralised "Celtic Church" that is mostly broken off from the Roman Catholic Church, and many ideas from the former Norse and Vikings due to there advanced views on sailing, exploration, trade, and ship consturction
Holy sh*t what if this was a mod, that would make me so happy!!!!
As long as I got credit, I have all these ideas flying through my head never put to use
Malcholm, Asturias And Leon
awesome game.
crusader kings 2
Exotic Lemon
lol, i mean half of us here are into computer stuff.
the only mod i ever made in ck2 though was adding the kingdom of ukraine as a titular title.
Republic Of Greater Cuba
I swear to god if you make a mod for me based on this I would make my day and probably make me happier then I have ever been in my entire life, no joke, I have very few moments where I can truly blossom
Civilisunio
lol you wish
go ahead and copy the ideas in a .txt if you wish :P
I know, but serisouly, if this became a mod could it actually be a pretty succesful one? You and me seem to know a decent amount of history taking place in that time
Not good with actually making it, to me coding is another language
But I am good at making a setting, I am obsessed with alternate history
i meant typing your ideas in a notepad document
Republic Of Greater Cuba
Okay, also I know you like Crusader Kings, but would this mod fit in EU4 better instead?
CKII is a game about playing dynasty and the individual characters within it. If you did make this a mod it would mainly be on the O'Brien dynasty, but since Brian Boru and many of his relatives were killed in 1014 that Dynasty was never able to blossom
vikings, heresy and murder.
sounds like ck to me :P
Exotic Lemon
I have never played it so I don't know anythign about it
You play?
and besides if this did become a mod I could only provide backstory. I am used to EU4, nothing else, so that makes it alot harder for me
No, I did some research on it
I am the reverse. I play ckII, but i did research on EU4
Republic Of Greater Cuba
I play EU4 and HOI4 because I love Paradox <3
Wait, did you read my idea?
Exotic Lemon
I didn't.
Republic Of Greater Cuba
you might want to vote in the election.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=21783683
Exotic Lemon
Oh I saw, i just didn't feel the urge to read a textbook on alternate Irish history
Republic Of Greater Cuba
-_-, and you read through a textbook of tmc proposals, read it, it is actually interesting
I read through several textbooks worth of tmc proposals, posts, and history. I find the information is fascinating. Ireland alternate history doesn't intrigue me as much. I will read it or you will probably attack me. I will be back in like 5-10 mins
Republic Of Greater Cuba
"I will read it or you will probably attack me"
Seems we are picking up on something
And gonna be honest it was way better than the one I made about on the Jewish People and a different Jewish State
Lunar Councillor Parakka has requested that everyone involved in the diplomatic meeting with Bunicken yesterday put up a summary of their side of the story. I will restore embassy posting so that you don't have to worry about moving back over there just to post.
Malcholm, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Asturias And Leon, Parakka Northland
Honestly I have no idea what is going on because I have been sick for the past couple of days and have not been reading much.
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Asturias And Leon
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=21783683
here it is
Barishmacht, Asturias And Leon
Republic Of Greater Cuba wrote (see page=rmb/postid=21783683 )
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Interesting! Unfortunately I am not that familiar with the history of Ireland in the 11th century CE, but I think this idea is worth pursuing. If the Irish Empire continues to survive into the colonial era and perhaps beyond into the industrial age and beyond, the world today might be quite different, given the large role in our timeline of the British Empire in world affairs over the past several centuries.
Another difference would be in languages. Modern English, which I've heard described as "Ancient Germanic with most of the words replaced by French", has borrowed many thousands of words from countless languages which were then spread to other cultures around the world. The Irish Empire would have spread different languages and words. As a result many English - speaking peoples around the world today might speak Gaelic instead, or even a language that does not exist at all in our timeline.
Forestavia, Malcholm, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Asturias And Leon, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
That's the problem. I wanted to write a story out of it, but what language do I write it in? Ireland itself in this timeline would probably have "pulled a Belgium", in which a small country gets a small but decent sized empire. After the deaths of Brian Boru's son and grandson who knows what could have happened, it's simpily not in our control to even have a partial speculation upon due to the lack of information I can find and how would have what children. I could write a timeline just for TMC on this, starting at 1014 and ending in 1800
Asturias And Leon, Parakka Northland
To be honest if Ireland does remain in existance in that universe up to 2016 as one country they probably could be speaking possibly a weird mix of French or German. To be honest I am really pushing how realistic this Empire gets without getting screwed over a hundred or so years later, but the British Isles would be a interesting subject of debate, including what the New World would look like. I would not mind if this became a regional alternate history timelapse, as it could be fun to do, invent new types of religious denominations, or even languages.
Asturias And Leon
Also now that I think about it I am pretty sure that no matter what condition Ireland and the lands of the "British Isles" would be probably Scandanavian ish. The Normans transformed English into what it is today, but since somehow in the timeline I made Ireland (or whatever country rules it would be called) made allies with them to stop Norse raids. English would probably in a way "exist" as something, but probably almost non recogonizable. I can't answer what the world language would be, but I can assume if Irish Kings controlled England, Wales, etc, then it would be a battleground for Norman French, Scandanavian languages, Gaelic, different types of German probably, and dialects would still play something as well
Asturias And Leon
well yeah, english comes from anglo saxon and norman.
and anglo saxon comes from saxon, which is germanic, and norman was a form of french, and so both norman and french come from latin.
Republic Of Greater Cuba
it would be cool though if scotand and britain and wales where all taken over by the vikings, and where norse pagan and such, leaving ireland the only christian kingdom in the north.
Forestavia, Republic Of Greater Cuba
I do have a idea popping up. There is a book I have read called The Years of Rice and Salt, it is divided into ten parts, the story spans hundreds of years, from the army of the Muslim conqueror Timur to the 21st century, with Europe being re-populated by Muslim pioneers, the indigenous peoples of the Americas forming a league to resist Chinese and Muslim invaders, and a 67-year-long world war being fought primarily between Muslim states and the Chinese and their allies. While the ten parts take place in different times and places, they are all somehow connected. Could we do something like this on the Irish Empire?
Forestavia
Each of us could write some mini story where we can basically do anything we want, want to look at how Germany is through the eyes of some alternate Pope? That's fine. Want to see how London is doing through the eyes of a merchent, that's perfectely fine. Want to talk about the ruler of so and so through they eyes of a peasant? That's alright
Forestavia
Good Idea
Asturias And Leon
Basically a story taking place about something, it can even be some guy describing himself travelling Munich to get food because it will always be different from our own. I am also interested to see how the areas around Greece, Turkey, Egypt, Syria, Arabia, and Palestine/Israel would be like
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