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Region: The Mystical Council
I'll just go to Solar Alliance and RP a bit until the ban is lifted.
The same. As you can see, not much has changed here. The turmoil is as hot as ever.
That's not freedom! That's simply allowing the masses to dictate demands to the individual (specifically me in this instance). This region is pro-individual!
lul when the "border guards" who are not even formally established by a constitution or have any authority from any law can eject everyone from the region and make a new region.
Forestavia, Malcholm, Truxol
Ah, in that case I guess I'll have to pull some endorsements as there is a threat to the region.
Since when!?
Malcholm
Endorsements don't matter, what i meant is all the high influence nations are pretty much in support of doing anything to get you to refound.
The only thing they can do is kick raiders.
Gyuamno, Malcholm, Truxol
then how do they "close the region"?
I'm staying here, they'll have to evict me!
Truxol
Defense Minister [nation=short]Exotic Lemon[/nation],
As Domestic Minister I am informing you to a potential situation involving domestic security in our region. I am fearful that Alistia and New Bacon may make an attempt to refound the region. I have done what I can as an individual nation. I have pulled my endorsements from them both. I am hopeful that we can resolve this situation peacefully without fragmenting the region.
(Instead of telegram I am using the RMB for transparency sake.)
Truxol
Border guards cant close the region.
When it was said that the region could be 'closed' it was meant that it would be done by the people to get forestavia to refound oak.
New Bacon, Truxol, Untoreragarekinae
Then tell that to the judicial branch Alistia, they're going rouge!
Word for word: FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE COURT ORDER OR TO TAKE
HEED OF THE OPTIONS CAN RESULT IN THE FOUNDING OF A NEW REGION
[B]WITH CURRENT BORDER OFFICERS CLOSING THE REGION.[/B]
Forestavia, Alistia, Truxol
Post by Gyuamno suppressed by Domos Pinca.
yes rouge! not rogue!
Alistia, Truxol
Our security was compromised the moment you destroyed our regional founder.
Truxol
Huh. Interesting.
Well i guess its legal then.
Gyuamno, Truxol
legal says who? i want the LAW that says the can!
Truxol
Well its only legal if [nation=short]forestavia[/nation] goes against the ruling of the judiciary branch telling him to restore oak and log in every 59 days.
If [nation=short]forestavia[/nation] refuses to comply with that, then it is legal to close the region.
New Bacon, Terran Flux, Untoreragarekinae
The good thing about this everyone is the Lunar Council apparently has the ability to legislate again (including changing our government structure). Just like under the old system! :)
You got what you wanted, now give us what we want.
RESTORE, THE, FOUNDER!
Forestavia, New Bacon, Terran Flux, Illfated, Untoreragarekinae
I'm gonna sleep on it.
[nation=short]forestavia[/nation], you and your other goon [nation=short]gyuamno[/nation] don't understand the docket. Border guards PROTECT THE REGION. The docket said border officers not guards that's the catch. That includes all elected officials with border control. Not the guards.
Alistia, Untoreragarekinae
*retreats into hidden bunker*
Gyuamno, Forestavia
Isn't it also true that the Border Guards lose their political authority when the founder is restored?
Oops I got it now. Sorry. I misunderstood. Ok well that's almost legal then. Very well. At least that side debate is out of the way.
[nation=short]exotic_lemon[/nation] note that forest is making threats to a court judge to overpower the court. Do not override the court lemon. Forest the docket is clear.
Post self-deleted by Alistia.
*Searches frantically for password*
Good thing we have a back up region, eh?
im here with you bb ;*
Forestavia, Alistia, Terran Flux
Won't matter, were not gonna move there.
You would just let that founder cte and we'd have to suffer under the same shananigans x2.
Forestavia, Terran Flux, Untoreragarekinae
Act all you want. The court will tell the officers to close the region if non compliant. I serve under [nation=short]alistia[/nation] and [nation=short]exotic_lemon[/nation] as far as regional security. If they order me to close the region then that's legal too.
Alistia
Hello! Some of us like the shananigans. ;)
u just said the border guards can't boi, u cant do nothing b
not the guards
am i reading this correctly
2 people out of 38
I have never threatened to over power the court. I have promised the region protection and if there is an attempt to refound I will step in, whether it's from raiders, defenders, a domestic threat, or from our very own government itself.
Unless ordered by the defense minister or delegate boy. I can also refuse the order if applicable. It wouldn't be legal to close the region on my own without permission of the elected officials.
[nation=short]forestavia[/nation] will be appealing!
as clearly stated, the ruling can be overturned by jury aka the popular vote!1`11312432537
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=709618
Powers: no official powers; votes on constitutional violations, punishments, & rules on disputes over interpretation of the constitution, can call for vote.
rulings may be overturned by jury (popular vote).
and i am filing a request to strip alisita of the fire chief title! i got in trouble for having two positions, so why can he!???
you too new bacon, justice AND border guard???
two positions for one person bad! i got in trouble, so should you!
The main thing I will do is protect the region from harm right now as that is my duty. The docket states all border officers though. Yes I did say that. But it's also legal for a border officer to tell the legion guards.
closing a region seems like a whole lot of harm ;)
going by that outdated factbook, fire chief isn't even there.
and the fire chief position was created by forestavia, also of note is i was against creating it.
don't be salty just because you lost by 1 vote to me.
Terran Flux
Justices don't have RO powers. Legion Guards aren't official. We're just here until oak is restored. It looks like the legion guards won't leave.
Terran Flux
Indeed.
Terran Flux
Closing and relocating to a more stable region is less harmful long term then staying here where the founder operates under a puppet and refuses to reinstate the actual founder nation and we may have to relocate later on anyway.
Terran Flux
[nation=short]gyuamno[/nation] you may kiss your bride [nation=short]forestavia[/nation]! You all are two peas in a pot.
Alistia
Closing the region is the only way they can force me to restore oak. So far the plan is working.
*Searches some more*
Alistia, New Bacon, Terran Flux
pick and choose the laws you want to follow, typical!
you can be fire chief, it doesn't matter. then stop being delegate!
then leave bruh, i dont care there isn't a founder here. go to your own safe space snowflake
Terran Flux
I just don't know if he feels the same way about me...
Gyuamno, Terran Flux
We can force you no problem.
u smell like eggs
Terran Flux
Give me the link to the law about no 2 positions being held.
And as was said, fire chief isn't even a real position.
Our mighty emperor [nation=short]forestavia[/nation] made it, i don't even know if a factbook on it exists.
Terran Flux
Aw, man! I knew I should have taken a shower last week!
Terran Flux
hmmm, [nation=short]Parakka_Northland[/nation] knows very well all about picking one position! When he got delegate he had to resign his other position.
there is no law, but all you sister sally sue's throw a hissy fit
id still mary u anyway
i rate u 10/10
Terran Flux
I didn't make one. It was a campaign promise that I fulfilled as Domestic Minister. Kinda shows how dangerous the Domestic Minister position can be. Good thing I don't abuse my power. Hehe
Gyuamno
If oak is restored I will be courteous and resign something one of my positions.
But why should I be nice and do that when [nation=short]forestavia[/nation] doesn't have the compassion to restore oak?
Answer: I shouldn't and i won't.
Gyuamno
Your trying to
That is so sweet of you. My heart is just filled with so much joy right now.
Gyuamno
Your only obligated to restore oak if the region is closed. In which you are violating the basic rights of nations.
the joy you have brought to me is everlasting my dearest forest, it is the least I can do
*the curtains close*
Forestavia
Yes I am. A dispatch should be out when I get some more free time whenever that will happen.
Details on what we voted for and one more poll to make it official.
7. Ejections, bans, and password actions taken by government officers may be appealed to the Lunar Council.
You would need to appeal the decision as founder of this region if you want it open [nation=short]forestavia[/nation]
Forestavia, Alistia
Nope, don't try to make another poll so you can scheme to vote 'no' and say it means the first vote was invalid.
And its severely doubtful you will be re elected to domestic affairs anyway.
New Bacon
*Cheers from the audience*
Gyuamno
He can't write a poll about the case, just as much as I can't write a poll about the case. Neither defendant nor prosecutor can do that, otherwise they would word things to conform to their biases.
I can request a poll, just as much as Forest can request one. However any poll written or published by the prosecution or the defense about the case, must be stricken down as invalid.
Alistia, New Bacon
Very good. I am really befuddled now. This throws a wrench into everything.
Alistia
ah i love using a new toothbrush.
it makes me feel alive
I found the password to oak. Now I will brush my teeth as well and go to bed
Gyuamno
Restore it for the sake of the years built into the region.
Wow 91 messages!
In [nation=short]forestavia[/nation] defence here guys I spent my time reading 91 messages basically saying Forest was a terrible founder etc yet you want him to restore the founding nation? I certainly wouldn't feel the need to comply after all that.
Gyuamno, Forestavia, Alistia, New Bacon, Malcholm
[B] VOTE FOR TERRAN FLUX FOR PRIME MINISTER [/B]
I am a level headed and experienced individual who will fight for the rights of both the many and the few! We need more strong leadership during these troubling times!
A vote for Terran is a vote for your safety!
Gyuamno, Forestavia, Alistia, Parakka Northland
Forest is not a terrible person.
Forest is just someone who has done a terrible mistake, as we all do sometimes
Forest can rectify this mistake, but if he doesn't then he would become a terrible person.
Forestavia, Alistia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland, Untoreragarekinae
replace your toothbursh every 3 months
or mine has some weird color changing thing that lets you know it's time!
Forestavia, Alistia
What motions will you bring forward?
Forestavia, Alistia
toothbursh -.-
toothbrush
Forestavia
I will bring forth motions to increase security of the region primarily until the issue is solved, once that is over, I will seek to calm the flames and begin putting forth motions to ensure this never happens again!
Forest doesn't have to. However, It's disrespectful to violate a court order that was made by a judicial body. That just further escalates the decision. Most are saying for him to restore oak regardless. Same thing I told Forest, if you violate a court order in real life you can go to jail. That's why I told him that's bad business.
Alistia, Parakka Northland
That is - reassuring. Because.... Oak can't wait to come back to life and zombify everyone this Halloween!
Gyuamno
We never said forest was a BAD person though but we have a right to tell forest he needs to do a better job.
I know it's definitely time for me then. I always forget, you know. It's so easy to forget something like that.
Gyuamno, Alistia, Terran Flux
im voting so i receive a custom telegram, unless parakka has a better deal to offer in the meantime!
and access to that hidden bunker wink wink
Alistia, Terran Flux
October 31st: Oakman's Revenge
seems like a knock of Pirates of the Carribean movie.
Forestavia, Alistia, Terran Flux
I know, I know. It's never quite good enough. I tried. I'm all out of steam. The big ideas just aren't there anymore. It's the end for me.
Well I know to get out on Halloween. And take an away from region vacation.
We need more specifics.
Can do!
I'd like there to be more volunteers to be overwatching popular raiding regions for possible attacks on us, and plans to be made on what happens should the region be lost to raiders.
Forestavia
Sounds like we need spies. Hm. You've got some good idea. Parakka might have some competition here.
Terran Flux, Parakka Northland
This is an even bigger slap in the face.
You refuse to bring oak back for the sake of region sanity and security, yet you will temporarily bring it back on Halloween just for the stupid zombie event, just to let it CTE again after...
Forestavia
[B] VOTE FOR TERRAN FLUX TO BE PRIME MINISTER [/B]
My plans for Z-Day 2017 will be a poll on who wants to do what, then if approved, we would all group together to cure and kill, or unleash the horde!
Gyuamno, Forestavia
It's not like that at all. I'll probably, um, delete some old dispatches. Maybe get rid of some stuff from the info center.
Unleash the hoard!
Alistia, Terran Flux
Night everyone!
Terran Flux
[B] REMINDER [/B]
Voting for me to become Prime Minister will include a personalized telegram thanking you for a vote and something unique only to your telegram!
Parakka Northland
Your original reason for letting oak cte was to increase activity.
I would say that goal has been achieved.
The Bears
He just says whatever reason there is so he can do whatever he wants. One day it's about strengthening the region, the next day it's about activity, and today it's about who the hell knows what... but the real reason is just so he can do whatever.
Alistia
I didnt say anyone said forest was a bad person. I'm equally not saying anyone said that either, just trying to point out the undertone of those collective messages
Alistia, New Bacon, Exotic Lemon
[B]Vote for Parakka for Prime Minister
My aim for Prime Minister well be to try and keep the region secure whilst looking at a back up plan should the region ever get raided or the residence are not content with the founding nation remaining dead.
I will also look at steam lining the ministry and merging positions together that are either not in demand or would make sense being combined.
Forestavia, Alistia, New Bacon
I wasn't trying to have a personal dig at you just as stated above, merely point out the undertone of approximately 91 posts
Alistia, New Bacon
If you guys ever need it I have a region you could move to. ;p
Gyuamno
You mean to tell me that every time something happens you come back? Boy, you are in and out and we all know that. Where is your WA? because your vote is invalid.
Forestavia, Alistia, Civilisunio, Parakka Northland
Well to be honest at this point i'm a native. I do hop around but for the most part I still stay up to date with everything. I don't have a WA but that doesn't matter because I'm a native.
New Bacon
It does matter, I'm a native too. If I wasn't in the wa my vote wouldn't be valid either. Regional law hasn't changed. Join the wa or your vote will be invalid.
Forestavia, Civilisunio, Parakka Northland
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