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Everloyal wrote:Does anyone know why oak is inactive or when he will be back?

He's not inactive just taking some time out this week to deal with some real life stuff, but he should be back soon

Mugwop wrote:Make sure to remove me as well.

I wasn't sure if it had been said whether or not you would be keeping your position simply to organise polls

Mugwop wrote:He's not inactive. What makes you say that?

And now you have to worry about how to elect even more representatives.

Truth be told I'm not a fan of the House of Lords and House of Commons and I think the idea should be scrapped all together. The mechanism you describe of representatives from the region in fact already exists. It is the Judicial Council. I think the Judicial Council with votes of a majority should enact common minor laws and amendments; meanwhile major law changes would be voted on by the entire region, keeping the FRAUD act in mind.

Speaking of the FRAUD act. I have republished it here https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=748390 with full credit to the original author.

Reason for republication is to reflect the changes in the regional government (old copy mentions [nation=short]exotic lemon[/nation] and [nation=short]Plugo[/nation] as nations to contact)

That's not a bad idea and I think would give the judicial council the power needed to influence the laws as and when needed (if that makes sense)

Alistia

Parakka Northland wrote:He's not inactive just taking some time out this week to deal with some real life stuff, but he should be back soon

I wasn't sure if it had been said whether or not you would be keeping your position simply to organise polls

That's not a bad idea and I think would give the judicial council the power needed to influence the laws as and when needed (if that makes sense)

It would mean the Judiciary would be like US Supreme Court in a way.

Parakka Northland

Parakka Northland wrote:

I wasn't sure if it had been said whether or not you would be keeping your position simply to organise polls

Ohohohohoh you all would love it if I would just take the polls responsibility from now on forever. No but seriously there is no need for my unelected position. I think with the templates I made in the elections dispatch, I made it very easy in the future and it's literally just a matter of copy/pasting from the templates I made. So anyone can do it.

Parakka Northland wrote:That's not a bad idea and I think would give the judicial council the power needed to influence the laws as and when needed (if that makes sense)

I know right? Currently the council is function-less unless there is a trial of some sort that they need to oversee. With this, the council will be tasked with voting on and enacting minor laws and amendments to our legislation, and give council members a more active and meaningful role in the goverment. (Note that the source of the proposed minor laws or amendments can come from anyone in the region, including the council itself)

Gyuamno, Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Hello there! Good looking region, I recently revived my nation after 6 years inactivity so was looking to get back into this. Seemed like a good place to settle down!

Gyuamno, Nucerea, Alistia, New Bacon, Malcholm, Civilisunio, Mugwop

Mugwop wrote:He's not inactive. What makes you say that?

And now you have to worry about how to elect even more representatives.

Truth be told I'm not a fan of the House of Lords and House of Commons and I think the idea should be scrapped all together. The mechanism you describe of representatives from the region in fact already exists. It is the Judicial Council. I think the Judicial Council with votes of a majority should enact common minor laws and amendments; meanwhile major law changes would be voted on by the entire region, keeping the FRAUD act in mind.

Speaking of the FRAUD act. I have republished it here https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=748390 with full credit to the original author.

Reason for republication is to reflect the changes in the regional government (old copy mentions [nation=short]exotic lemon[/nation] and [nation=short]Plugo[/nation] as nations to contact)

No the judicial branch deals with criminal cases and such. I am suggesting each house votes for a representative or 2 that will serve for 3 months and vote on candidates for their house. Simple nothing like your trying to make it seem like. The judicial branch shouldn't be overloaded with stuff like that and we (Commons and Lords) need that power to write the amendements and bills and such.

Civilisunio wrote:The judicial branch shouldn't be overloaded with stuff like that and we (Commons and Lords) need that power to write the amendements and bills and such.

I know i just got here, but exactly this. Judicial branches shouldn't do any of the legislating of laws.

Regions should have great separation of power, YUGE, everyone knows it!

Alistia, Malcholm

Civilisunio wrote:No the judicial branch deals with criminal cases and such. I am suggesting each house votes for a representative or 2 that will serve for 3 months and vote on candidates for their house. Simple nothing like your trying to make it seem like. The judicial branch shouldn't be overloaded with stuff like that and we (Commons and Lords) need that power to write the amendements and bills and such.

Well the Judical Branch doesn't do anything other than criminal cases, and they only deal with criminal cases that the Minister of Domestic Affairs can't do. So on average they review a case, maybe two, every election term. That's just completely useless.

They do nothing else, that's why they are the ones best fit for the position. Adding more and more goverment positions will cause more and more waste of time and bureaucracy. Before we know it half of the region is in the goverment and the none of the positions hold any strength or meaning.

As to your point: "we (Commons and Lords) need that power to write the amendements and bills and such"

As I said here https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=23184854 anyone in the region can write any form of bill or proposal, big or small. No exception or restrictions here. What I am suggesting however is the JB will be tasked on VOTING whether or not to pass such bills or amendments.

Note that the bills or amendments the JB would vote on should be ones with minor effects on the region. Any legislation that have major effects on the nature of our region (say like the introduction of a whole official contusion) should be voted on by a region wide vote. Same goes with legislation with intermediate effects (such as abolishing or adding a goverment postion) those should be voted on by the region as well, but if the region is dealing with another issue at the time, then the JB would handle it.

Formidable Opponent wrote:I know i just got here, but exactly this. Judicial branches shouldn't do any of the legislating of laws.

Regions should have great separation of power, YUGE, everyone knows it!

As I mentioned above, the suggestion is not to limit who can WRITE and propose legislation. Everyone can do that, including a newcomer like you, no exception. What I propose however, is the JB gets to VOTE on passing these legislation, and even then, only ones with minor, or possibly intermediate effects on the region.

Gyuamno, Alistia, Malcholm, Civilisunio

I think it's important to allow the judicial branch the power to amend laws that are already in effect. For example, if someone tried breaking a law but they didn't succeed, and the laws in question only dealt with people who actually broke a law, then because they didn't succeed they would be let off. My point is by allowing the judicial branch the power to amend laws they could fix any loop holes that might exist when needed

Malcholm, Mugwop

Parakka Northland wrote:I think it's important to allow the judicial branch the power to amend laws that are already in effect. For example, if someone tried breaking a law but they didn't succeed, and the laws in question only dealt with people who actually broke a law, then because they didn't succeed they would be let off. My point is by allowing the judicial branch the power to amend laws they could fix any loop holes that might exist when needed

Yeah and it's important to clarify that ANYONE can PROPOSE such amendment to the JB; it doesn't have to come from the JB itself.

Gyuamno, Alistia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Post by The Irish Catholic State suppressed by a moderator.

[nation=short]The_Immortal_Elysium[/nation] why don't you have the largest pizza sector?

Mugwop wrote:Well the Judical Branch doesn't do anything other than criminal cases, and they only deal with criminal cases that the Minister of Domestic Affairs can't do. So on average they review a case, maybe two, every election term. That's just completely useless.

They do nothing else, that's why they are the ones best fit for the position. Adding more and more goverment positions will cause more and more waste of time and bureaucracy. Before we know it half of the region is in the goverment and the none of the positions hold any strength or meaning.

As to your point: "we (Commons and Lords) need that power to write the amendements and bills and such"

As I said here https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=23184854 anyone in the region can write any form of bill or proposal, big or small. No exception or restrictions here. What I am suggesting however is the JB will be tasked on VOTING whether or not to pass such bills or amendments.

Note that the bills or amendments the JB would vote on should be ones with minor effects on the region. Any legislation that have major effects on the nature of our region (say like the introduction of a whole official contusion) should be voted on by a region wide vote. Same goes with legislation with intermediate effects (such as abolishing or adding a goverment postion) those should be voted on by the region as well, but if the region is dealing with another issue at the time, then the JB would handle it.

As I mentioned above, the suggestion is not to limit who can WRITE and propose legislation. Everyone can do that, including a newcomer like you, no exception. What I propose however, is the JB gets to VOTE on passing these legislation, and even then, only ones with minor, or possibly intermediate effects on the region.

Absolutely not! Ok, maybe my idea was bad, just brainstorming, but the judicial branch should only work with deciding unconstitutionally passed laws and that's it and criminal cases. All power of legislation is to the people not the JB, am I understood? We are now trying to make a Sentagon again. Keep the JB as it is and everything else.

Formidable Opponent, Alistia

Gyuamno wrote:[nation=short]The Immortal Elysium[/nation] why don't you have the largest pizza sector?

Shh....don't go tellin' everyone.

Gyuamno, Malcholm

Mugwop wrote:Yeah and it's important to clarify that ANYONE can PROPOSE such amendment to the JB; it doesn't have to come from the JB itself.

I don't think JB should be able to vote on passing legislation initially, but they COULD be able to suggest an amendment as long as it then goes to the people for a vote, since they would just be acting as sovereign citizens in suggesting it themselves. They could also as a group object to a law that passes both houses if they think it's unconstitutional, and if it is found to be, repeal. But no I don't think they should hold a vote as if they belonged to either house when the bill is going through the congress

By the way, your government is too large, you could abolish at least 2 minister positions. #DrainTheSwamp

Also also, why is the 5th judges seat empty?

I support the dereillegalisation of recreational memes

Nucerea

Civilisunio wrote:Absolutely not! Ok, maybe my idea was bad, just brainstorming, but the judicial branch should only work with deciding unconstitutionally passed laws and that's it and criminal cases. All power of legislation is to the people not the JB, am I understood? We are now trying to make a Sentagon again. Keep the JB as it is and everything else.

My idea suggests that the JB, typically composed of 5 odd numbers, does not require yet another set of goverment members and more elections, and votes on MINOR laws only (major laws and most intermediate ones being voted on by the region collectively; NOT just the JB.)

Your idea suggests that only 2 even members get to decide all of our laws, and require us to create even more goverment postion and more bureaucracy. And yes, your idea holds similar themes to our old Sentagon, which was useless and ineffective, and that's why it failed and we hap to scrap

So now justify to us how your idea is better.

Gyuamno, Parakka Northland

Nysazulu-Batanaland wrote:I support the dereillegalisation of recreational memes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxK_nA2iVXw

Malcholm

Mugwop wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxK_nA2iVXw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk1dd1D2Kts

Malcholm, Mugwop

Formidable Opponent wrote:I don't think JB should be able to vote on passing legislation initially, but they COULD be able to suggest an amendment as long as it then goes to the people for a vote, since they would just be acting as sovereign citizens in suggesting it themselves. They could also as a group object to a law that passes both houses if they think it's unconstitutional, and if it is found to be, repeal. But no I don't think they should hold a vote as if they belonged to either house when the bill is going through the congress

By the way, your government is too large, you could abolish at least 2 minister positions. #DrainTheSwamp

Also also, why is the 5th judges seat empty?

Well what ministries do you think should be cut?Also the fifth seat is empty as the previous justice was elected Domestic Affairs Minister and has left his seat vacant.It will go up for election soon I believe.

Gyuamno, Alistia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Viva Italia wrote:Well what ministries do you think should be cut?Also the fifth seat is empty as the previous justice was elected Domestic Affairs Minister and has left his seat vacant.It will go up for election soon I believe.

I think you could probably collapse the Domestic Affairs and Culture positions into one position, and why is there a grand duke again?

Formidable Opponent wrote:I think you could probably collapse the Domestic Affairs and Culture positions into one position, and why is there a grand duke again?

grand duke is the delegates assistant.

Formidable Opponent wrote:I don't think JB should be able to vote on passing legislation initially, but they COULD be able to suggest an amendment as long as it then goes to the people for a vote, since they would just be acting as sovereign citizens in suggesting it themselves. They could also as a group object to a law that passes both houses if they think it's unconstitutional, and if it is found to be, repeal. But no I don't think they should hold a vote as if they belonged to either house when the bill is going through the congress

By the way, your government is too large, you could abolish at least 2 minister positions. #DrainTheSwamp

Also also, why is the 5th judges seat empty?

this is the drained swamp, it used to be more mukry.

making those 2 positions 1 would add a lot of work for that person too.

Malcholm

Alistia wrote:making those 2 positions 1 would add a lot of work for that person too.

is there a place I can view a full list of duties that certain positions have to gain fuller knowledge?

Alistia

So what happened to The Irish Catholic State? I know they were sending derogatory messages through telegram and posted on the rmb that's all I know.

Alistia

Formidable Opponent wrote:is there a place I can view a full list of duties that certain positions have to gain fuller knowledge?

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=viva_italia/detail=factbook/id=709618

Gyuamno wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/nation=viva_italia/detail=factbook/id=709618

had seen that already, good stuff, how about any laws that have been past, current constitution? couldn't find

Civilisunio

Formidable Opponent wrote:had seen that already, good stuff, how about any laws that have been past, current constitution? couldn't find

Current constitution is being edited by me and [nation=short]new_bacon[/nation]. It's should be released as soon as he is ready.:) Laws that have been passed you have already seen. Not to many as of now that are in action the rest have been sort of repealed but I hope to make a new set of laws in the const. Forestavia has the basic rights of nations (Bill of rights).

Alistia

Civilisunio wrote:Current constitution is being edited by me and [nation=short]new_bacon[/nation]. It's should be released as soon as he is ready.:) Laws that have been passed you have already seen. Not to many as of now that are in action the rest have been sort of repealed but I hope to make a new set of laws in the const. Forestavia has the basic rights of nations (Bill of rights).

Any way I could get a look at the Const.?

Formidable Opponent wrote:had seen that already, good stuff, how about any laws that have been past, current constitution? couldn't find

The one stop shop for all our current laws.

New Bacon wrote:So what happened to The Irish Catholic State? I know they were sending derogatory messages through telegram and posted on the rmb that's all I know.

When I was sending out telegrams about the election, he used to reply with his aids comment. Then apparently the mods sent him a warning telegram. He copied it, forwarded the warning to me, and added the footnote "lol get aids"

It was hilarious. It's like the stereotypical insult a 7 year old makes online. Mods didn't appreciate him not taking the warning seriously.

Alistia, New Bacon, Malcholm

Formidable Opponent wrote:Any way I could get a look at the Const.?

Mugwop wrote:The one stop shop for all our current laws.

WOW I am brilliant, forgot to add the link to my comment

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=747154

Gyuamno, Malcholm

Formidable Opponent wrote:Any way I could get a look at the Const.?

It can only be viewed by officers right now.

Civilisunio wrote:Current constitution is being edited by me and [nation=short]new_bacon[/nation]. It's should be released as soon as he is ready.:) Laws that have been passed you have already seen. Not to many as of now that are in action the rest have been sort of repealed but I hope to make a new set of laws in the const. Forestavia has the basic rights of nations (Bill of rights).

Anyway, your idea about the reformed Sentagon. Make sure to write a comprehensive dispatch about it that we all can see. You know, iron out any folds and what not. And who knows it might actually work.

Also any ETA on the constitution?

Alistia, Civilisunio

New Bacon wrote:It can only be viewed by officers right now.

i want to see!

and @parkka_northland give me border now

Alistia wrote:i want to see!

and @parkka_northland give me border now

[nation=short]parakka_northland[/nation]

Mugwop wrote:WOW I am brilliant, forgot to add the link to my comment

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=747154

Thanks for that

New Bacon wrote:It can only be viewed by officers right now.

Ah, okay. Once it's done being edited though it will be voted on and amendments can be suggested?

Alistia

Post self-deleted by Formidable Opponent.

Formidable Opponent wrote:Also, I made this political compass dot map of the whole region if anyone's interested. Read the disclaimers at the top of the image first

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This link is much better, goes right to it https://paganpoliticsblog.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/political-compass-the-mystical-council.png?w=768

Gyuamno, Malcholm

Mugwop wrote:Anyway, your idea about the reformed Sentagon. Make sure to write a comprehensive dispatch about it that we all can see. You know, iron out any folds and what not. And who knows it might actually work.

Also any ETA on the constitution?

2-4 weeks possibly. At the least I believe it really depends on [nation=short]new_bacon[/nation].

Formidable Opponent wrote:Thanks for that

Ah, okay. Once it's done being edited though it will be voted on and amendments can be suggested?

Yes amendments can be suggested once it passes through the officers stage and viewable to the public.

Civilisunio wrote:2-4 weeks possibly. At the least I believe it really depends on [nation=short]new_bacon[/nation].

Yeah it really depends though. I do have time constraints.

Alistia wrote:i want to see!

and @parkka_northland give me border now

I will send you the link.

Mugwop wrote:Anyway, your idea about the reformed Sentagon. Make sure to write a comprehensive dispatch about it that we all can see. You know, iron out any folds and what not. And who knows it might actually work.

Also any ETA on the constitution?

No estimated time of arrival yet. Only officers can make suggestions. Once the constitution passes the officers' phase then we will move to phase 2 which is the public and the officers.

Alistia

IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN OUR MILITARY PLEASE SIGN UP. THIS WILL ELIMINATE THE HAVOC OF CREATING A PUPPET WITH A WORLD ASSEMBLY. [nation=short]SANCTINE[/nation], YOU MAY WANT TO REGISTER BEACUSE I KNOW YOU SAID YOU WERE INTERESTED. SO WHEN YOU ALL ARE CALLED ON AN OPERATION YOU CAN JUST GO.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=748902 [/B]

Alistia, Malcholm

New Bacon wrote:Yes amendments can be suggested once it passes through the officers stage and viewable to the public. Yeah it really depends though. I do have time constraints.I will send you the link.No estimated time of arrival yet. Only officers can make suggestions. Once the constitution passes the officers' phase then we will move to phase 2 which is the public and the officers.

Alright, well good job on the dispatches on another matter.

Alistia, New Bacon

Alistia wrote:i want to see!

and @parkka_northland give me border now

Please do try and remember I live in a different time zone to you and if I am up at stupid o'clock in my time zone it generally means I'm getting ready for work lol

Alistia

Everloyal wrote:Does anyone know why oak is inactive or when he will be back?

Hey Everloyal! I'm still around. Not quite as active as I usually am, though. How've you been?

Alistia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Mugwop wrote:Lemon is no longer with us so your statement cannot be verified at all and holds little weight. My own recommendation however is that you should be allowed to stay on parole, but shenanigans will not be tolerated at all.

Shenanigans are of course the root of all evil.

Yeah, he's telling the truth. Lemon granted him an exemption for one nation.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=display_region_rmb/region=mystical_council?start=100

Gyuamno, Alistia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Formidable Opponent wrote:This link is much better, goes right to it https://paganpoliticsblog.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/political-compass-the-mystical-council.png?w=768

thats pretty awesome lol

Parakka Northland

Alistia wrote:thats pretty awesome lol

thanks, it did take about 2 hours, lol

I'd like to do one of these once a month so we can track changes and predict trends in which way people's nations will go.

I'd also like to do a separate one where everyone in the region takes the actual test so we know where the people controlling said nations stand, but that will take longer and isn't as important, since people are mostly playing characters here

Alistia, New Bacon, Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Forestavia wrote:Yeah, he's telling the truth. Lemon granted him an exemption for one nation.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=display_region_rmb/region=mystical_council?start=100

For fkcs sake man. How do you even operate?

So you login and see a mountain of RMB posts and go "alright let me do a complete scan of the week" Then you see something and go "Oh I have the information for this. I remember this random ass RMB posts from 4 months ago. There you go lads. Here's what you need."

How is the fck is that even possible?! You're blowing me away man.

Gyuamno, Forestavia, Alistia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Hey guys, I have an old friend that needs help winning an election in Westphalia. Do you guys having any puppets lying around that has WA and vote on the poll and vote for the Liamese Empire? It sounds crazy, but it would mean alot!:) <3

Civilisunio wrote:Hey guys, I have an old friend that needs help winning an election in Westphalia. Do you guys having any puppets lying around that has WA and vote on the poll and vote for the Liamese Empire? It sounds crazy, but it would mean alot!:) <3

the poll is already closed.

Civilisunio

Post self-deleted by New Bacon.

Mugwop wrote:For fkcs sake man. How do you even operate?

So you login and see a mountain of RMB posts and go "alright let me do a complete scan of the week" Then you see something and go "Oh I have the information for this. I remember this random ass RMB posts from 4 months ago. There you go lads. Here's what you need."

How is the fck is that even possible?! You're blowing me away man.

Yep, pretty much. I mystify myself sometimes, too.

Gyuamno, Alistia, New Bacon, Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Alistia wrote:the poll is already closed.

I know. I sent that out a little late.:p

Alistia, New Bacon

[nation=short]Civilisunio[/nation], you resigned from the WA? I saw your Battle Guard Application.

Alistia, Civilisunio

New Bacon wrote:[nation=short]Civilisunio[/nation], you resigned from the WA? I saw your Battle Guard Application.

Yep. Did you not want me too?

Alistia, New Bacon

Post by Sanctine suppressed by New Bacon.

Sanctine

New Bacon wrote:IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN OUR MILITARY PLEASE SIGN UP. THIS WILL ELIMINATE THE HAVOC OF CREATING A PUPPET WITH A WORLD ASSEMBLY. [nation=short]SANCTINE[/nation], YOU MAY WANT TO REGISTER BEACUSE I KNOW YOU SAID YOU WERE INTERESTED. SO WHEN YOU ALL ARE CALLED ON AN OPERATION YOU CAN JUST GO.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=748902 [/B]

Done.

Alistia, New Bacon, Rondaland

Civilisunio wrote:Yep. Did you not want me too?

No its fine I was wondering because I didn't see the tag. When operations come up and you get drafted then you can rejoin.

Alistia, Civilisunio, Parakka Northland, Rondaland, Teurs

I've studied a lot of Sun Tzu, Napoleon and Rommel, so I'm totally prepared to lead an army to battle. I don't know if that transfers over to this game, but I could do it in real life, so

Alistia, Malcholm, Rondaland, Teurs

New Bacon wrote:No its fine I was wondering because I didn't see the tag. When operations come up and you get drafted then you can rejoin.

I will be using a puppet. [nation=short]civilisunioan_colonys[/nation]

Alistia, New Bacon, Rondaland

The link to register for the battle guard will still be up but it will be in the mystical council govt Factbook. I would advise non battle guard members to join before the constitutional vote(which won't be until way later of course). Because once the constitution passes the requirements get harder and you will have more questions to answer.

Ultimatum

The separate Factbook will be up until January 14th. After January 14th you will have to go to the government Factbook to register.

Alistia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland, Rondaland, Teurs

I also suggest that all members of the battle guard use discord ad that is how we will communitate during operations

Parakka Northland, Rondaland, Teurs

Hope everyone had a good new year! Very soon i will be speaking with the governments we have embassies with and do the massive closure, and become strong allies with the embassys we keep

Formidable Opponent, Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Rondaland wrote:Hope everyone had a good new year! Very soon i will be speaking with the governments we have embassies with and do the massive closure, and become strong allies with the embassys we keep

Imperator Cæsar Donaldvs Trvmpvs gives this 1000 thumbs up. Slash the budget to smithereens, form closer relationships with places that deserve it.

Alistia, Rondaland, Teurs

Formidable Opponent wrote:Imperator Cæsar Donaldvs Trvmpvs gives this 1000 thumbs up. Slash the budget to smithereens, form closer relationships with places that deserve it.

Oh hello, havne't seen you before, nice toi meet you, and yes indeed.

Alistia, Teurs

Forestavia wrote:Yep, pretty much. I mystify myself sometimes, too.

Hmmmm, maybe it's that damn celery you worship.

Gyuamno, Forestavia, Alistia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland, Teurs

Wow it's been a while.

Alistia, Teurs

Madiace wrote:Wow it's been a while.

*shady french minister arrives*

Looking for work?

Alistia

Teurs wrote:*shady french minister arrives*

Looking for work?

Depends on the pay.

Gyuamno, Alistia

Mugwop wrote:For fkcs sake man. How do you even operate?

So you login and see a mountain of RMB posts and go "alright let me do a complete scan of the week" Then you see something and go "Oh I have the information for this. I remember this random ass RMB posts from 4 months ago. There you go lads. Here's what you need."

How is the fck is that even possible?! You're blowing me away man.

It's a useful skill tbh. Gotta figure out how he does it :)

Alistia, Malcholm

No I'm no longer delegate I have moved my WA else where to undertake a Kobayashi Maru style mission

Forestavia, Alistia, Malcholm

Parakka Northland wrote:No I'm no longer delegate I have moved my WA else where to undertake a Kobayashi Maru style mission

Gyu dont wanna be delegate though he wants to be judge, so i guess the seat is ripe to be taken!

Gyuamno, New Bacon, Parakka Northland

Alistia wrote:Gyu dont wanna be delegate though he wants to be judge, so i guess the seat is ripe to be taken!

True guess he either stays as Delegate or resigns his WA to become judge. I've been delegate 3 times within the last 3 - 4 months, so I'm happy to let someone else have a shot at it for a bit till my Kobayashi Maru style mission is over with, then I might try and retake it

Alistia

Alistia wrote:Gyu dont wanna be delegate though he wants to be judge, so i guess the seat is ripe to be taken!

I might run for a position on judicial branch to keep me occupied here for awhile though

Alistia

Parakka Northland wrote:True guess he either stays as Delegate or resigns his WA to become judge. I've been delegate 3 times within the last 3 - 4 months, so I'm happy to let someone else have a shot at it for a bit till my Kobayashi Maru style mission is over with, then I might try and retake it

the reason why he became delegate is because i had to resign for a raid XD

New Bacon, Parakka Northland

Alistia wrote:the reason why he became delegate is because i had to resign for a raid XD

its no biggie, i also lost 1 or 2 other people as well. Its all cool

New Bacon

Well in light of the event, I bring this up again https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=743586#proposals

Discuss what should happen in the empty JB seat. Should Parakka take it? Leave it empty? Hold immediate election? Read about it and give your thoughts.

Forestavia, Alistia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Mugwop wrote:Well in light of the event, I bring this up again https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=743586#proposals

Discuss what should happen in the empty JB seat. Should Parakka take it? Leave it empty? Hold immediate election? Read about it and give your thoughts.

I'm about to head to bed so I'll read it in the morning

New Bacon

How come NS++ isn't working properly?

Alistia, New Bacon

Nucerea wrote:How come NS++ isn't working properly?

While having great potential, NS++ more often doesn't work than it does. So it's probably best to ask about the times that it is working.

Alistia, New Bacon, Malcholm

Nucerea wrote:How come NS++ isn't working properly?

What specific feature?

Alistia wrote:What specific feature?

Basically all of it at the moment, for me anyway.

Looks like I'll be delegate by morning. Don't worry everyone, I won't go crazy with power. Since you're all away playing war games I imagine this will only be a care-taker role for me, so I won't do anything too radical.

Malcholm

Mugwop wrote:Well in light of the event, I bring this up again https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=743586#proposals

Discuss what should happen in the empty JB seat. Should Parakka take it? Leave it empty? Hold immediate election? Read about it and give your thoughts.

Interesting idea

Alright muggy and anyone else. Yes, I change my mind a lot. Bare with me.

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It seems of latley the region has fallen into somewhat of an Abyss not necessarily bad but abyss isn't a good word. The delegacy has been thrown around and in my eyes has lost its true meaning. I want to be delegate I will say it right here no hidden messages or anything I believe that I have corrected my wrongs and strengthen my rights and truly believe I can implement my previous campaign plans, better, smoother, and with the help of you guys rather than be obnoxious like I did my last hold of the delegacy. Please. Endorse me if you believe in me.:)

You all have a good night!:)

Alistia

Mugwop wrote:Well in light of the event, I bring this up again https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=743586#proposals

Discuss what should happen in the empty JB seat. Should Parakka take it? Leave it empty? Hold immediate election? Read about it and give your thoughts.

I'd say yes, but he wouldn't be occupying the seat of a nation that became the delegate.

For section A, I feel that 48 hours is an acceptable time-frame for WA resignation; everything else feels too long or too short. For section B, option two seems like the most viable solution, but it would suck for our region to be holding elections all the time, knowing how often the positions switch around.

I don't think I ever mentioned it, but I absolutely love how clean-cut that dispatch is.

Parakka Northland

Malcholm wrote:I'd say yes, but he wouldn't be occupying the seat of a nation that became the delegate.

For section A, I feel that 48 hours is an acceptable time-frame for WA resignation; everything else feels too long or too short. For section B, option two seems like the most viable solution, but it would suck for our region to be holding elections all the time, knowing how often the positions switch around.

I don't think I ever mentioned it, but I absolutely love how clean-cut that dispatch is.

Great, anyone else have thoughts about this?

And thanks about the dispatch.

I believe I could be the best possible choice for the judicial seat, despite being new. I have real world law experience and have studied several nations' constitutions in great detail, as well as having been involved in real politics before and understanding what is important or not and the best way (opinion ) of passing laws which limit government size while simultaneously covering important issues accurately. I can also write pretty well.

Imperator Cæʃar Divi Filivs Donaldvs Trvmpvs

Alistia

No more work?? Shame.

Alistia

Mugwop wrote:Great, anyone else have thoughts about this?

And thanks about the dispatch.

A: I say 3-4 days and choose option 5

B: 2

New Bacon wrote:The link to register for the battle guard will still be up but it will be in the mystical council govt Factbook. I would advise non battle guard members to join before the constitutional vote(which won't be until way later of course). Because once the constitution passes the requirements get harder and you will have more questions to answer.

Ultimatum

The separate Factbook will be up until January 14th. After January 14th you will have to go to the government Factbook to register.

Thinking on this, you might want to list the benifits of joining the battle guard are, not just for the member but also the region. In addition you might want to say how the battleguard is structured, how to move up the ranks etc etc. Not to mention who the battle guard is affiliated with. I know if I was thinking of joining something I would want to know more about it

Malcholm, Sanctine

Today I proudly cast my vote FOR the W.A. Resolution "Protection of Nuclear Armaments"

It will be defeated anyway, but my principles are important to me.

Alistia

Mugwop wrote:Well in light of the event, I bring this up again https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=743586#proposals

Discuss what should happen in the empty JB seat. Should Parakka take it? Leave it empty? Hold immediate election? Read about it and give your thoughts.

We should have an election as soon as possible

Alistia

My name is Imperator Cæʃar Divi Filivs Donaldvs Trvmpvs, but you can call me Trump or by my nation's name, and I am officially running for the 2017 election for the 5th Judge's seat in the Judiciary branch.

Alistia, Civilisunio

Formidable Opponent wrote:My name is Imperator Cæʃar Divi Filivs Donaldvs Trvmpvs, but you can call me Trump or by my nation's name, and I am officially running for the 2017 election for the 5th Judge's seat in the Judiciary branch.

Ideals and ideologies?

Formidable Opponent, Alistia

Civilisunio wrote:Ideals and ideologies?

Ahhhh now we're getting somewhere!

I believe in the fundamental rights for nations to govern themselves as they see fit, equal Opportunity for all nations to rise above the pack and become exceptional. I'm also a constitutionalist, meaning I would support a constitution exactly as it's written, and never let my bias get in the way, unless I fundamentally disagree with a part of it, in which case I would abstain and propose an amendment.

In the real world, I have been involved in politics for 10 years, and even proposed a piece of state legislation which eventually got passed (which I won't mention here because you would learn my name). I am well known in my real life circles as a person who has principles and will call out people on whatever side of the political isle when they are - ...well, full of sh*t - regardless of whether that particular lie benefits me or not.

If elected, I plan to uphold these values forever and never let personal vendettas over-ride my principles. I also belong to our military arm and am happy to serve in the name of this region.

Also, I am a rather good writer, and would be an excellent choice, both for Judicial decisions, and for proposing legislation (as a sovereign nation, never letting my position give influence to the vote)

I can promise you this. If you elect a Justice Trump, this region will become one of the most organized, Democratic and fair Monarchies in the history of Nationstates.

We will make TMC Strong again

We will make TMC Proud again

We will make TMC Safe again

We will make TMC GREAT again!

Imperator Cæʃar Divi Filivs Donaldvs Trvmpvs

Your future Justice

Gyuamno, Alistia

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Formidable Opponent wrote:Der Löwe aus mitternacht comes to save the day, bring patriotism to the region, and make it great again for EVERYONE. Not just special people that look like <race>, I mean, EVERYONE

I cannot tell a lie. I desire to become Prime Minister. However, I fully understand that trust must be built with the people and my views must be known before that happens. Have no fear, I will devote myself entirely to the duty of Justice, as I would if Prime Minister eventually. When it comes to politics and the fate of the people, it's a no-holds-barred fight for rights and freedom.

Alistia, New Bacon

I'd like all of the little people, the ordinary people, the people who don't think their voice matters, to remember this quote from Ghandi when considering if you'll vote for me:

"First they ignore you,

then they laugh at you,

then they fight you,

Then YOU WIN"

I will ALWAYS stand side by side with those ordinary people in my role as Justice of the Lunar Council.

Alistia

Nucerea wrote:Looks like I'll be delegate by morning. Don't worry everyone, I won't go crazy with power. Since you're all away playing war games I imagine this will only be a care-taker role for me, so I won't do anything too radical.

Man, we've been going through the delegates like tissues lately.

Alistia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Formidable Opponent wrote:I cannot tell a lie. I desire to become Prime Minister. However, I fully understand that trust must be built with the people and my views must be known before that happens. Have no fear, I will devote myself entirely to the duty of Justice, as I would if Prime Minister eventually. When it comes to politics and the fate of the people, it's a no-holds-barred fight for rights and freedom.

A condition to be prime minister, is that you must have served in another office before. What office do you think you have the best of skills for?

Alistia

Mugwop wrote:A condition to be prime minister, is that you must have served in another office before. What office do you think you have the best of skills for?

certainly, and with no doubts, justice, as my first job, as I have real life experience in it, and my initial post leaves no doubt as to my qualifications I believe

Alistia

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