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Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:Amendment 6 right now is not a compromise at all, it is basically the No position. That's what the amendment as of now.

A compromise is if Amendment 6 made some sort of limit, as Rondaland suggested (X number of days per month) which is one possibility that can be explored as a solution.

By the way, is Amendment 6 the sole reason for your vote against the constitution in the tracker poll?

New Bacon

Ok, I've sent out some telegrams trying to get more specifics on the status of the constitution. This is quite a process. The math is looking pretty scary at this point. Like I said, if we don't have a constitution by October I will horde your nations with zombies. That is not just a threat but a promise....

New Bacon, Malcholm

Forestavia wrote:By the way, is Amendment 6 the sole reason for your vote against the constitution in the tracker poll?

Oh yeah that thing, I will vote yes, even though the current writing of Amendment 6 is basically the no position. But as stated before, considering that there are more people supporting that officers should stay, after the vote on the constitution as a whole, Amendment 6 will be examined by itself and we will see what we can do with it.

New Bacon, Malcholm

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:Oh yeah that thing, I will vote yes, even though the current writing of Amendment 6 is basically the no position. But as stated before, considering that there are more people supporting that officers should stay, after the vote on the constitution as a whole, Amendment 6 will be examined by itself and we will see what we can do with it.

Ok, cool.

New Bacon

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:Oh yeah that thing, I will vote yes, even though the current writing of Amendment 6 is basically the no position. But as stated before, considering that there are more people supporting that officers should stay, [B]after the vote on the constitution[/B] as a whole, Amendment 6 will be examined by itself and we will see what we can do with it.

Forestavia wrote:Ok, cool.

In unrelated news, Oak has decided to stretch out voting on the constitution until September 31st.

New Bacon

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:In unrelated news, Oak has decided to stretch out voting on the constitution until September 31st.

ew no f*ck that.

no point in extending it 2 months for no reason, we really need to get it over with.

New Bacon

Rondaland wrote:ew no f*ck that.

no point in extending it 2 months for no reason, we really need to get it over with.

No worries, September 31st will come sooner or later.

Rondaland wrote:ew no f*ck that.

no point in extending it 2 months for no reason, we really need to get it over with.

This constitution really needs to pass. We've already wasted more than a year on it.

Forestavia, Malcholm, Rondaland

Rondaland wrote:*Shoots the deathstar at [nation=short]Parakka_Northland[/nation] *

*Declares it a new colony*

Role Play

Northland State News

This morning a number of top officials have been found dead in their homes or places of work, this includes our new President. No one knows what happened but it is suspected that the Parakka are responsible for these deaths. In addition their 3rd Fleet has arrived of our shore and is receiving no resistance from Colony Forces. However, this morning the nation Rondaland have declared war on Northland. As such they are now under suspicion of being the ones behind the murders of a number of top officials. It is thought that the 5th in line to be Northland President has requested an audience with Admiral of the 3rd Fleet.

It is unknown if Mark Williams, will sign a surrender to the Admiral or if he will try to negotiate for more autonomy for Northland. All that is certain is the Empire could invade at any moment.

Rondaland

Rondaland wrote:We need to plan for the parilimentary session.

4/5 of the council agreed to implement it, haven't asked AU912 yet.

The first week of every month is when all decisions and concerns will be addressed from council members.

lets start it on monday since that is the first business day and i prob wont be supreme emperor anymore

I'll be AFK on monday for family obligations. But if the rest of the LC is unanimous, I won't oppose it.

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:In unrelated news, Oak has decided to stretch out voting on the constitution until September 31st.

Rondaland wrote:ew no f*ck that.

no point in extending it 2 months for no reason, we really need to get it over with.

What???? Shhhhhh. Don't confuse everyone. Get back to the kitchen!

Forestavia wrote:.....We [I]ARE[/I] going to have this vote on July 22nd no matter what.....

I'm going to be sending out telegrams directly to the nations who haven't voted in our constitution tracker poll yet>>> Mystical Council. We are halfway done with the poll and no closer to a constitution by the looks of things. Why? I need specifics, people. If there is a reasonable revision or fix that can be made we can do that - problem solved. So keep a look out for all you nations who haven't participated at all. I'm going to nag a little. Even if you have to pick abstain, that shows that you are at least minimally participating. I really do think that this region will be ready for this constitution. Whether we adopt it or not will be up to you.

Calendar:

July 2-3: Sentagon Meeting

July 4-31: Sentagon Policies Meeting/Summit/Vote

July 15: Lunar Council Elections (Hospitallers's Seat)

July 22: Constitutional Vote

August 1: Sentagon Presidential Election

August 14: Lunar Council Elections (Noyan's Seat)

September 12: Lunar Council Elections

September 16: Last Chance for Proposed Constitution to pass regional government. If fails....start from scratch?

This is the support the constitution has so far. It's meager. I have taken out the votes from puppets and nations not in the region.

Yea: Forestavia (1), Dosh Semiw (2), Rrepaimziaraseh (LC), Malcholm (1), AU912 Mystical Council Consulate (LC), Tumetu-iin Noyan (LC), Order of Hospitallers (LC), Plugo (LC), Rondaland (1)

5 votes from Sentagon so far. (will be 6 votes when I return my WA to the region)

Nay:

Abstain: New Bacon (D), Parakka Northland (1), Fezchia (2/ vote split?), Fiordlandia II (1), and Goldsteinland (1)

These votes do not count as they are not located in region/puppets: Kladsko, The Silent Knowledge, St Saratoga, Lambdaland, Sheogoraths Offspring, Roosevetania, Kaikaya, Fiordlandia

Malcholm

Forestavia wrote:Ok, I've sent out some telegrams trying to get more specifics on the status of the constitution. This is quite a process. The math is looking pretty scary at this point. Like I said, if we don't have a constitution by October I will horde your nations with zombies. That is not just a threat but a promise....

Sounds like we might need to initiate a "quarantine" on Oak if it ever comes to this. The Mystical Council will never succumb to the zombie plague!

Forestavia, New Bacon, Parakka Northland, Rondaland

I hit the jackpot! Thanksgiving

New Bacon, Malcholm

Malcholm wrote:Sounds like we might need to initiate a "quarantine" on Oak if it ever comes to this. The Mystical Council will never succumb to the zombie plague!

I have a cunning plan.... Potatoes! Thats right, one free potato for everyone who takes one of my zombies :)

New Bacon, Malcholm

Hey guys its me if your wondering why I have been inactive it is because I don't have wifi for a bit. After this message I won't get wifi back until Tuesday but I wont be able to talk until evening so I'll be back Tuesday

Forestavia wrote:What???? Shhhhhh. Don't confuse everyone. Get back to the kitchen!

I am disappointed that no one pointed out that September 31st will never come

Forestavia, Dosh Semiw, Malcholm, Rondaland

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:I am disappointed that no one pointed out that September 31st will never come

*Kicks self for being slow*

That was slick, Chef! I didn't catch on to that. Good one! :)

Dosh Semiw, Malcholm, Rondaland

Forestavia wrote:I hit the jackpot! Thanksgiving

Hey! Nice snag!

New Bacon

Forestavia wrote:RP:

The Forestavian High Councillor paced back and fourth in his office. After reading about The Sacred Order's attempt to have The Mystical Council merge with them, an idea began forming in his mind that he could not get rid of. He was Forestavia's current representative in Sentagon. He stood at the office window overlooking Circle Drive at the region's capitol. After drinking a glass of beer he sat down behind the typewriter.

"To Rondaland, President of Sentagon:

(CC: To Pyrosky)

After seeing The Sacred Order's failure to create any kind of enthusiasm regarding the recent merge proposal, I write with a hesitant hand about a similar topic. I believe that The Greater Holy Isles would be a prime candidate for colony status and that we could make their region our colony using Amendment 2 of our working constitution.

The way I see it, however, one thing needs to happen first. We need to make our working constitution official in the coming days. Without an official constitution, we will have no hope of ever acquiring any colonies.

We also need to have a discussion with the regional leadership of The Greater Holy Isles to see if colonization is something that they desire. There must be something in it for them, too.

It would be preferable for our region to establish a military of some sort so that we could offer future colonies protection.

Furthermore, you may have heard, the potatoes from the Isles are something special. They grow them large there - Bigly! And their harvest is great. Making The Greater Holy Isles a colony of The Mystical Council would allow our own region to prosper economically.

Please consider that the Isles have seen a shrinking population. The only way to save them now is to turn them into our colony. If we do nothing the Isles could cease to exist. And then where will we be? Those fleeters will take over and refound the place and the citizens will lose their motivation to grow potatoes under the communist system. And we cannot let this happen.

For the Glory of Sentagon,

James Chippy

High Councillor of The Theocratic Republic of Forestavia

Sentagon Representative (WA)"

He read the document over and faxed it to Rondalandian and Pyroskian leadership.

RP:

News of the fax hit the government in a flash, and scores of angry politicians quickly lined the halls of nearly every facility. Arguments, fights, and protests broke out so quickly that the government was forced to shut down for a week before the heat of the people's lamp became too much to bear. The dust settled in the bowels of the government, and two clearly divided and opposing forces took the seats of officials who had, just weeks earlier, been lackadaisical in their work ethics. James Harlock, President of [nation=noflag]Pyrosky[/nation], was even called upon to speak before the Pyroskian Senate, House of Representatives, and hold numerous speeches reassuring the people that their home region wasn't about to become a "colony" of some foreign entity.

OOC RP: The Regional Government of The Greater Holy Isles has yet to formalize and official stance on this matter, however international news corporations have already begun reporting that [nation=short]Forestavia[/nation], [nation=short]Rondaland[/nation], and anyone else involved can expect a unified resilience to their boisterous claims.

New Bacon, Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Parakka Northland wrote:Role Play

Northland State News

This morning a number of top officials have been found dead in their homes or places of work, this includes our new President. No one knows what happened but it is suspected that the Parakka are responsible for these deaths. In addition their 3rd Fleet has arrived of our shore and is receiving no resistance from Colony Forces. However, this morning the nation Rondaland have declared war on Northland. As such they are now under suspicion of being the ones behind the murders of a number of top officials. It is thought that the 5th in line to be Northland President has requested an audience with Admiral of the 3rd Fleet.

It is unknown if Mark Williams, will sign a surrender to the Admiral or if he will try to negotiate for more autonomy for Northland. All that is certain is the Empire could invade at any moment.

Role Play

Today is an historic day as the empire has restored order in our colony. We have also left a capable Govenor to oversee the day to day affairs of our territory. In addition we will be stationing the 4th fleet to defend the colony along with the 6th Airforce.

Rondaland

Oak, send me the election schedule.

Remove TSO from protected embassies too.

Plugo wrote:Oak, send me the election schedule.

Remove TSO from protected embassies too.

Some of the members of the order may be moving here

Malcholm

For all members of TSO who will becoming here, the region is currently in a roleplay event, that is why the WFE is that way and the regional tags are different.

Rondaland

*The rebels who have called themselfs the mystical council ambush the emperor and cut off his head*

That is the story of how the mystical council was formed.

Welcome to the region all those from tso.

We have an elected regional government, and an active founder (he wont abandon us).

New Bacon, Malcholm

Rondaland wrote:Welcome to the region all those from tso.

We have an elected regional government, and an active founder (he wont abandon us).

Good. I look forward to having someone who wont abandon something over a little bit of criticism and diversity on issues.

Malcholm, Rondaland

[nation=short]oakplumington[/nation] [nation=short]forestavia[/nation] please update http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=497421 in 5 - 6 hours

Malcholm

Roleplay

Violets start to wind down in Washington and SWAT and New Bacon G'ovt police agencies start to disappear the downtown area is starting to reopen after a long riot with the violets. There were several injuries from police with tear gas. The New Bacon Capitol, White House, and Supreme Court was unharmed as there was heavily armed law enforcement guarding the buildings. However there was damage other areas. In Sentagon, the Capitol building's floors had collapsed. President Taharqa flew to Prosperity, [nation=short+noflag]Forestavia[/nation] until the riots calmed down. Taharqa actually drunk him a bottle of moonshine along with Plum Oakton while he is there. Taharqa should expect to arrive safely back to Washington when all is completely over.

Next on headlines traffic:

Traffic is a mess around the Washington DC area as all exits to downtown on the freeways are closed.

I'm Jeff Wayne Reporting from Bacon Central News.

*police flies by almost striking the reporter*

Rondaland

New Bacon wrote:Roleplay

Violets start to wind down in Washington and SWAT and New Bacon G'ovt police agencies start to disappear the downtown area is starting to reopen after a long riot with the violets. There were several injuries from police with tear gas. The New Bacon Capitol, White House, and Supreme Court was unharmed as there was heavily armed law enforcement guarding the buildings. However there was damage other areas. In Sentagon, the Capitol building's floors had collapsed. President Taharqa flew to Prosperity, [nation=short+noflag]Forestavia[/nation] until the riots calmed down. Taharqa actually drunk him a bottle of moonshine along with Plum Oakton while he is there. Taharqa should expect to arrive safely back to Washington when all is completely over.

Next on headlines traffic:

Traffic is a mess around the Washington DC area as all exits to downtown on the freeways are closed.

I'm Jeff Wayne Reporting from Bacon Central News.

*police flies by almost striking the reporter*

We need to find an architect to build a new capitol building.

New Bacon, Malcholm

Rondaland wrote:We need to find an architect to build a new capitol building.

*new bacon government searches for an architect*

[nation=short]moltavo[/nation] leave a puppet in TSO

RP

*the Captain contemplates life as a storm of "purple aliens" storms the colony*

New Bacon, Plugo

New Bacon wrote:*new bacon government searches for an architect*

Actually it would be cool if we had a dispatch giving pics and such of all government building etc.

New Bacon, Malcholm, Illfated

Plugo wrote:Actually it would be cool if we had a dispatch giving pics and such of all government building etc.

I tell you what you're right!!!!!! :D

Malcholm

[nation=short]republic of greater cuba[/nation]

looks like TRF finally got you :O

The Celtic Union

RP

I for one welcome our new alien overlords, I have always said that no mater what, doing the best thing is always good. So as my new campaign I promise more betterness and less worseness. *the Captain is trembling and looks scared s@!tless*

New Bacon

RP

With the wormhole under control, the guard has been quadrupled in case of further violetst assault.

President Beldan announces, "As a fellow spacefaring society, we are prepared to send humanitarian aid as well as opening diplomatic communications to Asteroid Colony GJ-042 should they request help."

New Bacon, Malcholm

RP

Are you from Earth, have you come to take us back? I... *audio cuts and you hear another voice* Hello, I am one of the Captain's advisors, please hear me out.

We are a small desert colony located on Earth, our leader has gone insane for unknown reasons. He believes he runs an asteroid colony. Our only request is that you try and convince him that he's back on earth. We need to somehow get him into orbit and convince him that he's going back to Earth. We've tried psychotherapy, water tank simulated microgravity, even reduced gravity aircraft; but nothing seems to work. I know it doesn't seem like it, but he's far too paranoid and clever to believe our attempts. Don't worry though, I have a plan. If we can actually get him into orbit and convince him he's going to earth, i'm sure his condition would improve. i only ask that you let him fly a few revolutions up in orbit and then come back. Don't worry, he'll be acompaneied by a team of professionals that have been trained to deal with his... condition. If you for any reason cannot do this, we understand...

Malcholm

RP

We could ship parts and plans to build a rocket from the wormhole. It will take several weeks, but we could help you build a small spaceport in your, uh, colony, and then perform the mission. It might be faster to bring your leader here and fly him on one of our spacecraft to our "homeworld" then back to Earth. We'd need to convince him that the space station has been lost in space and damaged beyond repair, and the only hope is to return to Earth, where a copy of everything they had on the station will be rebuilt.

RP

That's more than we could ever have hoped for, thank you. We accept your offer.

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

Plugo wrote:For all members of TSO who will becoming here, the region is currently in a roleplay event, that is why the WFE is that way and the regional tags are different.

What happened to TSO? Why did Wolf do all of this?

Illfated

[B]MEMBERS OF THE GOVERMENT[/B]

Soon I will be closing embassies with the following region due to them being shut down, please notify me if you wish to keep them

Sacred Order Of Fire

Who

The Alliance Of Independent States

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:[B]MEMBERS OF THE GOVERMENT[/B]

Soon I will be closing embassies with the following region due to them being shut down, please notify me if you wish to keep them

Sacred Order Of Fire

Who

The Alliance Of Independent States

I'm OK with it, but best to check with Plugo & Order Of Hospitallers!

Asteroid Colony Gj-042 wrote:RP

That's more than we could ever have hoped for, thank you. We accept your offer.

A sky taxi takes off for Asteroid Colony Gj-042.

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:[B]MEMBERS OF THE GOVERMENT[/B]

Soon I will be closing embassies with the following region due to them being shut down, please notify me if you wish to keep them

Sacred Order Of Fire

Who

The Alliance Of Independent States

I request that we keep embassies with The Alliance Of Independent States since they are part of our role playing community. AIS used to be UTNA (United Territories of North America). It's near to my heart since it was my first RP region.

New Bacon, Malcholm

Wow....I'm glad we didn't merge with The Sacred Order. Anyone want to fill me in?

New Bacon, Malcholm, Illfated

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:[B]MEMBERS OF THE GOVERMENT[/B]

Soon I will be closing embassies with the following region due to them being shut down, please notify me if you wish to keep them

Sacred Order Of Fire

Who

The Alliance Of Independent States

don't close embassies with WHO, that is a organization that will come into effect in October to protect people from the zombies.

New Bacon, Malcholm, Plugo

Forestavia wrote:Wow....I'm glad we didn't merge with The Sacred Order. Anyone want to fill me in?

Alpha wolf went crazy because some of us didn't want embassies with everyone he did, and said the regional officers didn't do squat.

New Bacon

Illfated wrote:Alpha wolf went crazy because some of us didn't want embassies with everyone he did, and said the regional officers didn't do squat.

I can testify that Plugo is doing a lot for Anticom as well as for this region. Additionally, Exotic Lemon had big plans for the military over there. That's all I know.

New Bacon, Malcholm, Plugo, Exotic Lemon

Forestavia wrote:I can testify that Plugo is doing a lot for Anticom as well as for this region. Additionally, Exotic Lemon had big plans for the military over there. That's all I know.

I do. I have several Factbooks if you guys would allow me.

Malcholm, Plugo

Exotic Lemon wrote:I do. I have several Factbooks if you guys would allow me.

Let me know if you are interested in joining. I have a lot of big ideas, and I believe this can be a great military

Malcholm

Exotic Lemon wrote:I do. I have several Factbooks if you guys would allow me.

Well, you can try. This region probably won't approve any kind of military (in the official sense). You know how long Everloyal worked over here trying to establish a military and then an intelligence agency. Months of effort did not yield any results. Even with me backing him and I'm the founder. So, I'm not trying to discourage you. Go for it. Campaign. Propose legislation. But I've pretty much accepted the fact that this region will never have an "Official" military organization sanctioned by the regional government.

You will be far more successful, in my opinion, if you make it a private, underground operation. Just skip the red tape.

Plugo

Forestavia wrote:Well, you can try. This region probably won't approve any kind of military (in the official sense). You know how long Everloyal worked over here trying to establish a military and then an intelligence agency. Months of effort did not yield any results. Even with me backing him and I'm the founder. So, I'm not trying to discourage you. Go for it. Campaign. Propose legislation. But I've pretty much accepted the fact that this region will never have an "Official" military organization sanctioned by the regional government.

You will be far more successful, in my opinion, if you make it a private, underground operation. Just skip the red tape.

It might have passed had it been worded differently. For me the main problem with it was firstly the intelligence agency only reported to two people and not the council when required. Secondly if I recall correctly (which at this time in the morning probably won't happen) the military was under control of one man and who wasn't accountable to anyone but the delegate

Plugo

Forestavia wrote:Well, you can try. This region probably won't approve any kind of military (in the official sense). You know how long Everloyal worked over here trying to establish a military and then an intelligence agency. Months of effort did not yield any results. Even with me backing him and I'm the founder. So, I'm not trying to discourage you. Go for it. Campaign. Propose legislation. But I've pretty much accepted the fact that this region will never have an "Official" military organization sanctioned by the regional government.

You will be far more successful, in my opinion, if you make it a private, underground operation. Just skip the red tape.

Trust me, I think I can make a military work, especially with soldiers from the sacred order coming in. I request to make a new region for the military. Ask plugo if you don't believe me.

Forestavia, Plugo

Parakka Northland wrote:It might have passed had it been worded differently. For me the main problem with it was firstly the intelligence agency only reported to two people and not the council when required. Secondly if I recall correctly (which at this time in the morning probably won't happen) the military was under control of one man and who wasn't accountable to anyone but the delegate

I don't have that proposal anymore because I deleted it a week or so ago. But I seem to remember more checks and balances than just the Delegate and Director of Defense.

But that wasn't the only proposal that Everloyal and I submitted, there were at least two others plus we both formed a party (now defunct). We tried to drum up enthusiasm and it just wasn't there. Perhaps it just wasn't the right time and place for our region to have a military.

*shrugs*

It might seem kind of arrogant to say, but I think we have enough friends and allies now that we really don't need a military anymore.

That's right, fleeters. I said it. What are you gonna do about it?

Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Exotic Lemon wrote:Trust me, I think I can make a military work, especially with soldiers from the sacred order coming in. I request to make a new region for the military. Ask plugo if you don't believe me.

Do it. Make a separate region. I never thought of that before. Maybe something a bit less abstract..... hmmm....

Exotic Lemon

Forestavia wrote:Do it. Make a separate region. I never thought of that before. Maybe something a bit less abstract..... hmmm....

Do you want to have an election first? I feel bad just declaring myself director of defense.

Parakka Northland

By the way everyone. Most regions form militaries for regional security. But uh.....we've had exactly 10 raids (last I checked) in this region and we've survived them all. So maybe - I don't know - a military would be redundant?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-military by any means. You can have a lot of fun with them.

Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Exotic Lemon wrote:Do you want to have an election first? I feel bad just declaring myself director of defense.

You won't be the Director of Defense (unless approved as such by the regional government). You'll just be another member of the region running a private military organization. That's the freedom that exists here in the region. Freedom to do what you want with your military assets.

Just do it. Like I said, start private, underground, unofficial, keepin' it on the DL. After it becomes a successful gig we can make it official via the legislative process......maybe....

*blinks*

Exotic Lemon

Anyone interested in joining the private military, telegram me and/or respond to this post.

Forestavia, Plugo

I would like to encourage our new members to vote in the constitutional poll here >>>> Mystical Council.

But don't vote without reading the proposed constitution first.

================

There is an upcoming election for the Lunar Council July 15th. Hospitallers' seat is up for grabs! These are your candidates.

[nation=short]Order of Hospitallers[/nation]

[nation=short]Parakka Northland[/nation]

[nation=short]Malcholm[/nation]

[nation=short]Fezchia[/nation]

Am I forgetting anyone????

This election is important and they all are great candidates.

Feel free to interview the them. Put them through the ringer! ;)

New Bacon, Malcholm, Parakka Northland, Fezchia

Exotic Lemon wrote:Anyone interested in joining the private military, telegram me and/or respond to this post.

*Jumps around like crazy*

ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME!

Exotic Lemon

No Alex Jones! Don't die on us! Come back! COME BACK! CLEAR!

We're losin' him, doc!

CLEAR!

*ozone fills the air*

New Bacon

RP or no RP, Kekels was banned without due process in violation of Section 5a of the working constitution.

I, Forestavia, Member of Sentagon, am formally requesting that either Delegate New Bacon, President AU912, or President Rondaland lift the ban.

Malcholm

Forestavia wrote:I request that we keep embassies with The Alliance Of Independent States since they are part of our role playing community. AIS used to be UTNA (United Territories of North America). It's near to my heart since it was my first RP region.

Yeah I wasn't sure about that one; glad to know you wanna keep it.

Illfated wrote:don't close embassies with WHO, that is a organization that will come into effect in October to protect people from the zombies.

It doesn't seem to be active, now or in the future. But if they pickup, we can reapply for embassy. For now I will close it and keep a watch on it in my dossier.

RP

@ The Constitutional Republic Of Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

*as you approach the landing site, you see a man being led by 4 people; grinning wide, right eye twitches and head bobing back and forth. As the group approaches the landing site, the man jolts and then stops. He appears to be calm and collected* Thank you for comming for us. I would kindly ask that you describe your flight plan to us. *one of the people in his company whispers something in his ear* Ah, alright then. *with your permission the group boards*

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

Exotic Lemon wrote:Trust me, I think I can make a military work, especially with soldiers from the sacred order coming in. I request to make a new region for the military. Ask plugo if you don't believe me.

Exotic Lemon wrote:Do you want to have an election first? I feel bad just declaring myself director of defense.

Great idea forming a separate region for any sort of military activity. I also think their should be a vote first, weather that's a region vote or a vote amongst the Lunar Council in order to appoint you to the role

Forestavia wrote:You won't be the Director of Defense (unless approved as such by the regional government). You'll just be another member of the region running a private military organization. That's the freedom that exists here in the region. Freedom to do what you want with your military assets.

Just do it. Like I said, start private, underground, unofficial, keepin' it on the DL. After it becomes a successful gig we can make it official via the legislative process......maybe....

*blinks*

I dont like this idea because effectively your subverting the regions goverment. You should at least ensure the Lunar Council approves of it first.

New Bacon, Malcholm

Parakka Northland wrote:Great idea forming a separate region for any sort of military activity. I also think their should be a vote first, weather that's a region vote or a vote amongst the Lunar Council in order to appoint you to the role

I dont like this idea because effectively your subverting the regions goverment. You should at least ensure the Lunar Council approves of it first.

I thought I told Forestavia to let the region run without undermining regional government.

Post self-deleted by New Bacon.

Forestavia wrote:RP or no RP, Kekels was banned without due process in violation of Section 5a of the working constitution.

I, Forestavia, Member of Sentagon, am formally requesting that either Delegate New Bacon, President AU912, or President Rondaland lift the ban.

First off why was he banned?

You know what I think Rondaland intentionally banned them during roleplay but forgot to lift it. I will go ahead and lift the ban.

Forestavia

Parakka Northland wrote:Great idea forming a separate region for any sort of military activity. I also think their should be a vote first, weather that's a region vote or a vote amongst the Lunar Council in order to appoint you to the role

I dont like this idea because effectively your subverting the regions goverment. You should at least ensure the Lunar Council approves of it first.

So do I have the support of the council or not? Is that a yes, no, or maybe.

Parakka Northland wrote:Great idea forming a separate region for any sort of military activity. I also think their should be a vote first, weather that's a region vote or a vote amongst the Lunar Council in order to appoint you to the role

I dont like this idea because effectively your subverting the regions goverment. You should at least ensure the Lunar Council approves of it first.

Exotic Lemon wrote:So do I have the support of the council or not? Is that a yes, no, or maybe.

There is no law that I'm aware of that requires nations to get the support of the council to form their own organization. That would give the Lunar Council too much power over this region. How long will it be before the Lunar Council then seeks to approve political parties, too?

The Lunar Council may stop us from forming an *official* military all they want. They are within their rights to request approval first before granting an appointment to a government position. But they have no right to interfere in the private affairs of other nations so long as we are following the letter of the law. We should be careful how much power we hand over to the Lunar Council. It depends on what precisely Exotic Lemon wants. If we keep it off the books, there is no need to approve anything. Lemon is free to associate with whoever. However, if Lemon is looking for a regional officer position, then yeah, Parakka's right in that instance and the Lunar Council would be within its rights.

Do you have the support of the Lunar Council? Perhaps a better question, is [I]do you want[/I] the support of the Lunar Council?

See you have a choice:

a. Keep it off the books = You don't have to answer to the regional government.

b. Seeking a regional officer position or making the military official in any capacity would require approval from the government in some way, shape, or form.

You have options, my friend. Freedom = choices.

I'm advocating option a and Parakka is advocating option b.

The only reason why I'm advocating option a is because Everloyal and I tried going through the official channels for months (literally) and got nowhere. I personally think option a is your best bet. Baby steps. Once it's a successful operation you can go to the government and say, "Look at how we helped the region! How about some official recognition?" Your case will be much stronger then.

Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

New Bacon wrote:I thought I told Forestavia to let the region run without undermining regional government.

This is not "undermining", this is an issue of freedom.

Exotic Lemon has the right to form any organization they want. Where is the law that says, "Private security details are banned"? Where in the constitution does the regional government have the right to insert it's nose into the private organizations of its nations? Was this region not founded on the basic premise of choices and freedoms? Have we declared voluntary militias illegal??? Do you remember the Regional Guard, Bacon? You, me, and Everloyal were part of it. We didn't need approval from the Council to do that! We just did it because we could. Because we were free to do it. To Everloyal's disappointment, The Regional Guard was never made official, but we were still free to participate in it whenever we wanted to.

Isn't Star Wars Battlefront a military region? A separate region run by you? Did the Lunar Council approve of this action?

With these rhetorical questions, I am saying that Exotic Lemon has the same rights that we have. Exotic Lemon wants to do what Everloyal once did in this region and I say Exotic Lemon has the right to do so!

*Passionately hits fist off table*

New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

Post self-deleted by New Bacon.

Forestavia wrote:This is not "undermining", this is an issue of freedom.

Exotic Lemon has the right to form any organization they want. Where is the law that says, "Private security details are banned"? Where in the constitution does the regional government have the right to insert it's nose into the private organizations of its nations? Was this region not founded on the basic premise of choices and freedoms? Have we declared voluntary militias illegal??? Do you remember the Regional Guard, Bacon? You, me, and Everloyal were part of it. We didn't need approval from the Council to do that! We just did it because we could. Because we were free to do it. To Everloyal's disappointment, The Regional Guard was never made official, but we were still free to participate in it whenever we wanted to.

Isn't Star Wars Battlefront a military region? A separate region run by you? Did the Lunar Council approve of this action?

With these rhetorical questions, I am saying that Exotic Lemon has the same rights that we have. Exotic Lemon wants to do what Everloyal once did in this region and I say Exotic Lemon has the right to do so!

*Passionately hits fist off table*

Touché! [region=Star Wars Battlefront] is a military installation ran by me and was only approved by New Bacon Government and will stay that way.

*Taharqa slaps himself in the face*

Forestavia, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

Forestavia wrote:There is no law that I'm aware of that requires nations to get the support of the council to form their own organization. That would give the Lunar Council too much power over this region. How long will it be before the Lunar Council then seeks to approve political parties, too?

The Lunar Council may stop us from forming an *official* military all they want. They are within their rights to request approval first before granting an appointment to a government position. But they have no right to interfere in the private affairs of other nations so long as we are following the letter of the law. We should be careful how much power we hand over to the Lunar Council. It depends on what precisely Exotic Lemon wants. If we keep it off the books, there is no need to approve anything. Lemon is free to associate with whoever. However, if Lemon is looking for a regional officer position, then yeah, Parakka's right in that instance and the Lunar Council would be within its rights.

Do you have the support of the Lunar Council? Perhaps a better question, is [I]do you want[/I] the support of the Lunar Council?

See you have a choice:

a. Keep it off the books = You don't have to answer to the regional government.

b. Seeking a regional officer position or making the military official in any capacity would require approval from the government in some way, shape, or form.

You have options, my friend. Freedom = choices.

I'm advocating option a and Parakka is advocating option b.

The only reason why I'm advocating option a is because Everloyal and I tried going through the official channels for months (literally) and got nowhere. I personally think option a is your best bet. Baby steps. Once it's a successful operation you can go to the government and say, "Look at how we helped the region! How about some official recognition?" Your case will be much stronger then.

If it's a private matter then it should be handled as such. By that I mean it shouldn't be mentioned on the RMB otherwise effectively your recruiting support from the region and thus it's not off the books but supported by the regional goverment, by default.

Though to answer your comments regarding if it's unofficial and therefore you don't have to answer go anyone. That is correct but it also means that it's loyalties to TMC could be called into question. Just playing devils advocate here

Exotic Lemon wrote:So do I have the support of the council or not? Is that a yes, no, or maybe.

Im not on the council so I'm afraid my personal opinion on the issue isn't important in an offical sense. Personally I don't object to the idea. I just feel if memebers of TMC are going to be making up this army then it should have the support of the Lunar Council.

Forestavia, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

Parakka Northland wrote:If it's a private matter then it should be handled as such. By that I mean it shouldn't be mentioned on the RMB otherwise effectively your recruiting support from the region and thus it's not off the books but supported by the regional goverment, by default.

Though to answer your comments regarding if it's unofficial and therefore you don't have to answer go anyone. That is correct but it also means that it's loyalties to TMC could be called into question. Just playing devils advocate here

Im not on the council so I'm afraid my personal opinion on the issue isn't important in an offical sense. Personally I don't object to the idea. I just feel if memebers of TMC are going to be making up this army then it should have the support of the Lunar Council.

I will see how much support we have, then make a decision, but I'm leaning towards option b

Forestavia, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Plugo, Parakka Northland

Forestavia wrote:How long will it be before the Lunar Council then seeks to approve political parties, too?

Never, if I can do anything about it!

Forestavia wrote:There is no law that I'm aware of that requires nations to get the support of the council to form their own organization.

Agreed, and if we need a constitutional amendment to protect private militias and political parties from the LC I will support it.

Parakka Northland wrote:I just feel if memebers of TMC are going to be making up this army then it should have the support of the Lunar Council.

If the military is going to be an official part of TMC government approved by the LC, we'll need to spell out how that works, e.g., what authority & responsibilities would the officer(s) involved have, would participation be mandatory, etc.

Forestavia, Malcholm

RP

Asteroid Colony Gj-042 wrote:RP

@ The Constitutional Republic Of Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

*as you approach the landing site, you see a man being led by 4 people; grinning wide, right eye twitches and head bobing back and forth. As the group approaches the landing site, the man jolts and then stops. He appears to be calm and collected* Thank you for comming for us. I would kindly ask that you describe your flight plan to us. *one of the people in his company whispers something in his ear* Ah, alright then. *with your permission the group boards*

"Sir, to save time we'll be taking you to the nearest security transit station to travel to our home system to meet with our leaders while we finalize things. We'll then repeat the process to get you and your people back to your home world."

"It's unfortunate the station can't be saved, but your people will have a chance to rebuild their lives back on Earth."

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate wrote:Never, if I can do anything about it!

Agreed, and if we need a constitutional amendment to protect private militias and political parties from the LC I will support it.

If the military is going to be an official part of TMC government approved by the LC, we'll need to spell out how that works, e.g., what authority & responsibilities would the officer(s) involved have, would participation be mandatory, etc.

I'm beginning to see why this constitution never gets passed, seems to me that everyone seem to want to amend this or that using the constitution.

Malcholm

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate wrote:Never, if I can do anything about it!

Agreed, and if we need a constitutional amendment to protect private militias and political parties from the LC I will support it.

If the military is going to be an official part of TMC government approved by the LC, we'll need to spell out how that works, e.g., what authority & responsibilities would the officer(s) involved have, would participation be mandatory, etc.

I already have s factbook with ideas and the structure. All I need is the councils approval

Can I make a suggestion for the factbook, can we please make a link to sentagon and put ian the factbook. Saves people time when wanting to swap between regions for polls etc

Exotic Lemon wrote:I already have s factbook with ideas and the structure. All I need is the councils approval

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=exotic_lemon/detail=factbook/id=647250 link to my campaign for the sacred order defense minister, it has details of my plans for the military in a link.

Forestavia, Malcholm

Exotic Lemon wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/nation=exotic_lemon/detail=factbook/id=647250 link to my campaign for the sacred order defense minister, it has details of my plans for the military in a link.

Your links to the Varangian Guard don't work.

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate wrote:RP

"Sir, to save time we'll be taking you to the nearest security transit station to travel to our home system to meet with our leaders while we finalize things. We'll then repeat the process to get you and your people back to your home world."

"It's unfortunate the station can't be saved, but your people will have a chance to rebuild their lives back on Earth."

RP

I understand. i want to take this opportunity to thank you and your people for what you're doing for us. If it weren't for you, who knows how long we would've been stuck on that god forsaken rock. Do you mind if i take a look around the vessel? *starts looking around not waiting for permission while humming the Ode to joy*

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate wrote:RP

"Sir, to save time we'll be taking you to the nearest security transit station to travel to our home system to meet with our leaders while we finalize things. We'll then repeat the process to get you and your people back to your home world."

"It's unfortunate the station can't be saved, but your people will have a chance to rebuild their lives back on Earth."

RP

I understand. i want to take this opportunity to thank you and your people for what you're doing for us. If it weren't for you, who knows how long we would've been stuck on that god forsaken rock. Do you mind if i take a look around the vessel? *starts looking around not waiting for permission while humming the Ode to joy*

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:Yeah I wasn't sure about that one; glad to know you wanna keep it.It doesn't seem to be active, now or in the future. But if they pickup, we can reapply for embassy. For now I will close it and keep a watch on it in my dossier.

No do not close it.

YES I AM OF HELLO I AM THE NEW MEMBER OF THE NATIONSTATE THE CHEEKI-BREEKISTAN COMMUNIST STATE

Malcholm, Asteroid Colony Gj-042

[nation=short]forestavia[/nation] i would like to institute a law before the next election.

All people who wish to run or vote must be in a political party.

Cheeki-Breekistan wrote:YES I AM OF HELLO I AM THE NEW MEMBER OF THE NATIONSTATE THE CHEEKI-BREEKISTAN COMMUNIST STATE

RP

Are you *ghhk* an alien?

Asteroid Colony Gj-042 wrote:RP

Are you *ghhk* an alien?

I am not of beings alien no I am cheeki-breekistan communist state man

I am using executive powers to veto [nation=short]Rrepaimziaraseh[/nation] 's decision to close the WHO embassy.

If he violates my veto without the approval of the council he will be ejected from the region and i will do everything in my power to get him removed from the council.

Cheeki-Breekistan wrote:I am not of beings alien no I am cheeki-breekistan communist state man

RP

Hrr, just what an alien would say... *his pupils widen and he tilts his head. He meows softly while exiting the room backwards*

Cheeki-Breekistan wrote:I am not of beings alien no I am cheeki-breekistan communist state man

RP

Hrr, just what an alien would say... *his pupils widen and he tilts his head. He meows softly while exiting the room backwards*

Plugo wrote:[nation=short]forestavia[/nation] i would like to institute a law before the next election.

All people who wish to run or vote must be in a political party.

If you were todo that you / others would really have to start advertising your parties etc in order to get people to join. That being said what happened to freedom to choose weather to be in a party or not etc?

Forestavia, New Bacon

Parakka Northland wrote:If you were todo that you / others would really have to start advertising your parties etc in order to get people to join. That being said what happened to freedom to choose weather to be in a party or not etc?

It makes since though.

in real life you have the right to vote, but you have to register, get your voters id card, and join a party.

We need a dispatch that just shows political parties.

Naumadal

Rondaland wrote:We need a dispatch that just shows political parties.

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=naumadal/detail=factbook/id=608752

Forestavia, Malcholm, Exotic Lemon

Hello,i'm just a puppet of a nation that is looking around the world of NS. So,what is this region does?

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