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Region: The Mystical Council
Also if you see and sponges wearing pants, shoot on site! I hear they are looking for Forestavia potatoes
Forestavia, Malcholm
[nation=short]New Bacon[/nation], you should talk to Orca Hq regarding this: http://www.nationstates.net/region=orca_hq/page=display_region_rmb?postid=19791865#p19791865
They want to know who the ORCA representative is for Star Wars Battlefront.
New Bacon
A new, far more important poll is up!
http://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=62019
Don't mind me just here to worship spongegard
I can't vote. The poll isn't open to all nations.
I really want to go with waffles but I'm going to vote pancakes only because the mess is easier to clean up.
Malcholm
I guess it's time to play my clarinet.....
Malcholm
Oh oops XD
Fixed
CoC, make an embassy with them? What y'all think?
Mesa supports
Malcholm
Well I will accept, and if someone doesn't please provide reasons.
Malcholm
Jeez they were right when they said you were an instagator...
This was my region after cuba betrayed us to the communists, then i went to bunicken, now i am here again.
Malcholm
Post self-deleted by Rrepaimziaraseh.
Well buddy I didn't know who you are. You looked like a raider who somehow sneaked in. How else did you expect someone who doesn't know you, and seeing you having a raider group in your name, to react?
Malcholm
Post self-deleted by Rrepaimziaraseh.
So what happened to the region United Erin? https://goo.gl/DeHbmH
They were active few days ago, had some thirty nations, and now they are gone? Did the mods wipe them out?
Very mysterious.
This is a long overdue addition to our regional information center: http://www.nationstates.net/nation=forestavia/detail=factbook/id=649808
I used to have the proposals mixed in with the regional laws and treaties. Now Proposals and stuff we haven't voted on will have its own dispatch.
If you have a proposal or a draft of one feel free to let me know so that I can add it to this new dispatch.
Malcholm, Parakka Northland
Founder said he got bored and just wanted to destroy his own region :|
Wow. Ok. Man, there are some crazy founders out in this section of the world....
Malcholm, Parakka Northland
Wow that's kinda a big FU to the regions members :|
Malcholm
How come not many people are on your map?
Also interesting map choice
Crazy Founders : | He destroyed the region because he got bored?! Hmm...
Nobody has said anything to me about a spot on the map. What spot would you like that's not already claimed by national governments?
Malcholm
Doesn't overly bother me really and besides it looks like New Bacon controls the world mostly haha
Malcholm
I am [nation=short]New Bacon[/nation] ;)
Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Haha lol
Who is [nation=short]Girlswithconfidence[/nation]?
Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
AU912 Has my endorsement for his office campaign!
Malcholm, Oakplumington, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Post by I Hate Rrepaimziaraseh suppressed by a moderator.
WOW, someone is some next level butthurt at me. Our region is locked and it is locked for a good reason. I wouldn't bother asking if our region wasn't locked. So if someone is moving in, that means they are either sneaking in their own puppets for some reason, or someone in here is leaking the password to outsiders when they shouldn't. We are currently at a critical time, Our constitution is being voted on and elections are going on as well, random puppets that no one know who they are can potentially risk manipulating our region's democracy by outside forces.
That is why, so long the region is locked, we must know exactly who is walking into our region.
Malcholm, Oakplumington, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Parakka Northland
What did miss here?
New Bacon, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Someone was angry that I was asking questions about people coming in, when our region is locked. Damn shame.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Fezchia
This reminds me of this https://imgur.com/gallery/etRru
New Bacon
That's it. I had enough shenanigans. We're going to have a hidden password until July 4th. There will be rule of law in this silly region - for a little while anyway. :P
New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Parakka Northland
She's clear.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
I recommend you don't use or give anyone the password until then. Even yourself. If we need to talk to someone we can open embassies and use the message boards.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Oakplumington, Parakka Northland
Girlswithconfidence has a WA AND is clear. ;)
Rrepaimziaraseh, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
And we definitely don't need the moderators to come to this region anymore. So whoever created the I hate rrepaimziaraseh nation should be ashamed of themselves.
Forestavia, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Parakka Northland, Fezchia
All new immigrant nations must report to Mystical Council.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
I agree. Furthermore, I would like to say that Chef is a great Councillor and has been very active particularly with the embassy situation. It's good to see.
New Bacon, Rrepaimziaraseh, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Parakka Northland
See everyone, that's perfect. There's nothing wrong with asking.
Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Thanks, speaking of which, Red Harbor.
It's the last dead region on the list. [nation=short]Order of Hospitallers[/nation] said not to close it, but he hasn't given any reasons. Does anyone know what connection the region has with us, or should we go ahead and close it?
Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
You have the power to close it as much as Hospitallers has the power to save it.
I have no clue what's going on with that situation honestly. You two should telegram each other.
If the embassy falls into limbo with you closing and Hospitallers saving it over and over again, my recommendation would be that the Lunar Council vote as a body on the issue and try to find some consensus as to whether to keep it or not.
Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Where there is Fun Time With Fiordlandia™ on 24/7!
That's an old Fleeter cove, what are we doing establishing diplomatic relations with that backwater part of the world?
Forestavia, New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
No no, I don't want to do that. I'm not going to close the embassy before hearing out [nation=short]Order of Hospitallers[/nation]; that might come of as disrespectful. I just want him to tell us what good reason there is to keep it. I telegrammed him about it but he didn't respond, so I was hoping if there's someone else that knows something about the region.
New Bacon, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
I wish I could shine some light on the situation, given that I've been here forever, but I don't remember when the embassy was created, or why. I have a feeling that it might have something to do with the series of fleeter raids we went through around the time ROs came into existence, but I'm not sure.
Forestavia, New Bacon, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Parakka Northland
Lol trying to keep up with puppet nations is a full time job haha
Forestavia, New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Fezchia
Hear, hear!
New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
The Members of Sentagon:
Sentagon may cast a total of 23 votes.
Which means that 16 votes are required from Sentagon in order to ratify the constitution.
[nation=short]Rondaland[/nation], President (1)
[nation=short]Malcholm[/nation], Secretary Delegate, (1)
[nation=short]Fezchia[/nation] (2)
[nation=short]Alex Jones for POTUS[/nation] (1)
[nation=short]Everloyal[/nation] (1)
[nation=short]Netherfar[/nation] (2)
[nation=short]Jegerkompaniet[/nation] (1)
[nation=short]The Eyes of the Wolf Syndicate[/nation] (1)
[nation=short]Girlswithconfidence[/nation] (2) {Must be in region for 48 hours before voting}
[nation=short]Parakka Northland[/nation] (1)
[nation=short]Fascism Vector[/nation] (1)
[nation=short]Dosh Semiw[/nation] (2)
[nation=short]Vaspassia[/nation] (1)
[nation=short]Kladsko[/nation] (1)
[nation=short]Forestavia[/nation] (2)
[nation=short]Caliginous Junk[/nation] (1)
[nation=short]Frankiestine[/nation] (2)
We also need the Delegate's approval as well as the approval of three Lunar Councillors.
Dosh Semiw, New Bacon, Malcholm, Parakka Northland
The Lunar Council under the Strawberry Moon 2016
Lunar Council President: [nation=short]AU912 Mystical Council Consulate[/nation] (Reelected)
Lunar Councillor: [nation=short]Order of Hospitallers[/nation]
Lunar Councillor: [nation=short]Tumetu-iin Noyan[/nation]
Lunar Councillor: [nation=short]Rrepaimziaraseh[/nation]
Lunar Councillor: [nation=short]Plugo[/nation]
Dosh Semiw, New Bacon, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Parakka Northland
Congrats on your reelection AU912! :)
Dosh Semiw, New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Post by Forestavia suppressed by Domos Pinca.
Hospitallers's seat will be up for reelection in July.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Tumetu-Iin Noyan, Parakka Northland
Congrats AU912
Dosh Semiw, New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Thanks!
Thank You. I thought you would have made a fine Lunar Counselor.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Parakka Northland, Fezchia
[nation=fezchia] you can always run again next month. :)
Forestavia, Malcholm, Fezchia
They'll be running against me next month :>
Forestavia, New Bacon, Fezchia
I can feel the tension building already
Forestavia, New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Fezchia
Haven't gotten any telegrams.
Are you sure? Check your telegram settings then.
"Wired To → Order of Hospitallers
1 day 21 hours ago
Hey buddy, would you mind telling us all on the RMB what is the significance of Red Harbor. It seems like just a dead, locked, and inactive region, but of course as you know you have been in TMC much longer than I, so tell us about the importance of Red Harbor to TMC. No one has said anything about the region, except this guy https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=19705568 and he didn't give any explantion. Everyone else is fine with closing it along with the rest of the dead regions.
So please clarify to us about the connection we have with them, otherwise it's best to close it and avoid hoarding dead embassies."
New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Well this should be good then.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Post by The Nationstates Review suppressed by a moderator.
Go away NSA.
Malcholm
Come, come now, Chef. Where are your manners?
*Snatches microphone*
Um, yes. The Mystical Council is currently voting on the most important thing in the history of our region: the constitution. We currently have 8 votes from Sentagon and one from the Lunar Council. I am hoping that we can get at least 8 more from Sentagon, at least 2 more from the Lunar Council, and approval from the Delegate. Then we'll be able to adopt it. ^_^
This is a very historic time for the region.
*Look around*
Anyone else want to get interviewed?
New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Rondaland
Post self-deleted by Rrepaimziaraseh.
They're here! They're watching us!
BTW, sent you some stuff on founder.
Forestavia, New Bacon, Malcholm
Rude, no way to treat a guest...
Forestavia, New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Tumetu-Iin Noyan
c ii. In the event that a hidden password is instituted, the password must then be sent to all members of the Lunar Council and the President of Sentagon.
Isn't this being broken right now?
e. remove the ability of residents to recruit for the region.
That should be removed, only specified people should be able to recruit.
17. A council member may be impeached with the approval of Sentagon and with the approval of the Delegate.
the lunar council president should approve too?
Forestavia, New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
28. The Delegate may create a cabinet of members (or ministers) by appointing nations to various positions. The cabinet may consist of as many nations and positions as the Delegate wishes. The Delegate has the authority to decide which nations to bestow these powers upon and what powers each cabinet official will have. However, any cabinet member or minister circumventing the legislative process may be impeached by three members of the Lunar Council.
28a. If desired, the Delegate may choose to appoint a Secretary Delegate or a Vice Delegate who may assist the Delegate in their executive duties. The Secretary Delegate may act on behalf of the Delegate when the Delegate is not active. The Secretary Delegate may have access to all authorities and powers with the exception of border control. Border control can only be granted to the Secretary Delegate during a regional emergency. The Secretary Delegate must state how they are voting on the regional message board when voting on legislation: They may choose to vote as a member of Sentagon or as Acting Delegate but they cannot vote as a member of Sentagon and also Veto or Approve legislation as Acting Delegate.
i can't wait till some random guy comes in and makes a million officers..
also add that the appointed ministers cant have border control?
Forestavia, New Bacon, Malcholm
I had the same concern about this issue. We need some protection mechanism to prevent this.
Forestavia, New Bacon, Malcholm
I personally only will appoint one other officer and that is the Secretary Delegate. I also agree. There are enough regional officers.
Forestavia, Malcholm, Rondaland
Yes, and if this has not been dealt with within 24 hours of the passage of the Constitution, I intend to bring this up for possible sanctions.
Currently, recruitment is set to "Any Resident". So my interpretation is that to change it to anything else, approval of two branches is required.
No, because then as LC President I could prevent my own impeachment or that of an ally within the council. Allowing the Sentagon to impeach the Lunar Council with Delegate approval keeps us honest.
IIRC, regions are limited to 12 officers, counting the Lunar Council and President of the Sentagon. That's still a lot.
Forestavia, Malcholm
For c ii. Yes, technically I have implemented a lot of constitutional infringements. However, the constitution is still not official yet. So I am going to take some last executive actions as founder to keep this constitutional vote secure. The minute the poll ends (if the constitution passes), I will comply fully with the rules.
Ok. I will delete e. I'll try to come up with something better for addressing recruitment. Give me a day or so on this.
For 17, No, the Lunar Council President should not have any authority in this matter because what if it is the President himself or herself who is being impeached? Also, the Lunar Council should not have the ability to hinder the impeachment of one of it's own members. That's my reasoning behind that.
Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Alright the map is back up with a newer version. [B]Please! When you are requesting for map space go to the map factbook and click on the Geological Survey emblem which will direct you to the Google Fourm. State your NATIONAL NAME not your real name! Fill out the forum so that way I'll have a record of where you want your map space. [/B] Just letting everyone know. [nation=short]Dosh Semiw[/nation] please telegram me back or fill out the Google Forum by going to the map factbook and clicking the New Bacon Geological Survey Emblem.
Forestavia, Dosh Semiw, Malcholm
Should I delete 28 and make 28a the "new 28"?
New Bacon, Rondaland
yeah because i think a delegate should only appoint a secretary delegate.
Forestavia, Malcholm
Also be sure to check out the newer map.
Forestavia, Malcholm
How's this?
Section 28 -
If desired, the Delegate may choose to appoint a Secretary Delegate or a Vice Delegate who may assist the Delegate in their executive duties. The Secretary Delegate may act on behalf of the Delegate when the Delegate is not active. The Secretary Delegate may have access to all authorities and powers with the exception of border control. Border control can only be granted to the Secretary Delegate during a regional emergency. The Secretary Delegate must state how they are voting on the regional message board when voting on legislation: They may choose to vote as a member of Sentagon or as Acting Delegate but they cannot vote as a member of Sentagon and also Veto or Approve legislation as Acting Delegate. The Secretary Delegate may not circumvent the legislative process and may be impeached by three members of the Lunar Council for doing so.
New Bacon, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
fair enough
Amendment 4 - (Adapted from Section 9 from the old draft)
"The Delegate, President of the Lunar Council, President of Sentagon, and Founder shall be the only nations to hold authority over regional border control. The Delegate or Founder may also grant the Secretary Delegate authority over regional borders during an emergency situation."
New Bacon
I have officially changed section 28 to this:
[spoiler]28. If desired, the Delegate may choose to appoint a Secretary Delegate or a Vice Delegate who may assist the Delegate in their executive duties. The Secretary Delegate may act on behalf of the Delegate when the Delegate is not active. The Secretary Delegate may have access to all authorities and powers with the exception of border control. Border control can only be granted to the Secretary Delegate during a regional emergency. The Secretary Delegate must state how they are voting on the regional message board when voting on legislation: They may choose to vote as a member of Sentagon or as Acting Delegate but they cannot vote as a member of Sentagon and also Veto or Approve legislation as Acting Delegate. The Secretary Delegate may not circumvent the legislative process and may be impeached by three members of the Lunar Council for doing so.[/spoiler]
New Bacon
oh yeah the new map also includes a legend. also if anyone wants me to include something in their country that's fine too
things like,
-states/provinces
-national parks
-etc.
Oakplumington
I have replaced amendment 1. The old text is in red the new is in white. Chef gets the credit for this one. Our region will always be independent! Yay!
ROLEPLAY***
Breaking!! The Following New Bacon Provinces will vote to ratify the Mystical Council Constitution Tonight during their legislative sessions
New Forestavia(California)
Washington
North Carolina
Texas
Florida
As the New Bacon citizens know 45% of the Provinces must agree before Delegate Taharqa Signs the constitution. This is going to be very tough for the Provinces. This means 23/51 provinces must ratify it according to the Mystical Council Clause in the New Bacon Constitution.
Reporting from BCN im Forgetsalot
-New Bacon Dept. of Education
Oakplumington, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Does anyone object to the recent changes? Speak now or forever hold your piece!
New Bacon, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
*peace
New Bacon
These both sound good. Were there any other changes?
New Bacon, Oakplumington
Yes, Amendment 1 was altered and Amendment 4 was created. It was actually based off of section 9 from the old draft.
New Bacon, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Chef and I have also been talking about section 15. What if we replace 15 with this?
[spoiler]
A council member may not serve as Delegate. If a nation holding a council seat is elected to the Delegacy, then they must do one of two things:
a. They may resign from the Lunar Council and accept the office of the Delegacy and all responsibilities that come with it.
OR
b. They may refuse the office of Delegate and must immediately resign from the WA for 12 hours.
If the Lunar Councillor chooses option a, then they will switch places with the former Delegate and permanently lose their seat on the council. The only way for them to return to the Lunar Council is to either be elected again during a future full moon or switch places with another Lunar Councillor who is elected to the Delegacy and who also chooses option a.[/spoiler]
New Bacon, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Yea
Forestavia, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
I dont think they should be forced to resign, the people endorsing them should just unendorse them.
Forestavia, Malcholm, Barthonia, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
whats the password? i need to move someone over here 2 vote 4 me.
What is the punishment for someone violating the constiution?
Forestavia, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Yeah and it should not be an automatic process that they resign. They should be given, say, 12-24hrs to settle the matter.
On an unrelated note, considering that [nation=short]Order of Hospitallers[/nation] has ignored my telegram and all my RMB posts :( I will close the Red Harbor embassy.
Barthonia, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
I don't think it works that way, bud :)
YAAAAY!
Malcholm, Barthonia, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
Ignored?
He hasn't on don't take it personally kid.
I think it does, and im not your bud stranger.
You make me regret supporting your run for the council ;(
"The Merchant Federation of Plugo
87 minutes ago
Kid, this embassy is none off your business and is something top secret that happened before you were on the council.
Me Hospitallers and all our party mates voted for you but we did not realize you would be such a nuisance.
This is really my first time communicating with you but i would just like you to stop being such an antagonist, we will all settle it when we can but until then stop provoking it please."
Now this is very rude and disrespectful. [B]I have called time and time for someone to submit a good reason to keep the embassy with Red Harbor, none have[/B]. I grew tired of [nation=short]Plugo[/nation]'s disrespectful treatment, I have done nothing to personally offend him, and all he does is attack me and act disrespectful towards me. [B]What have I done to deserve that?[/B]
Plugo, if you are still harboring a resinetment because of this, https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=19628426 all I did was ask a simple question because I wasn't sure about the rules of the region on it, and yet you chose to be hoestile towards me. And despite that, I sent you a telegram trying to clarify that I got nothing against you:
"Wired To → Plugo
15 days ago
Hey man, I was just asking an honest question. Nothing personal."
You did not bother to reply one way or another, that is really a juvenile way for you to behave that is unbefitting of the region.
And that is why I am requesting a vote among The Lunar Council on the matter of Red Harbor. If there is a "top secret" reason, as you claim, for other councilors to keep the embassy, a reason that they chose to withhold from me, then let it be, regardless, a vote is the only way to deal with your sickening and disrespectful attitude. So try to grow up and get over it, kid.
Dosh Semiw, Malcholm, Barthonia
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