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Au912 Mystical Council Consulate wrote:So I had a couple thoughts on this. One thought is to just use the positions we've got, which I think makes the most sense at least during a transition period.

Another thought is we could vote on people's ideas for what the positions would be.

Well people of tmc? What do you think?

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate wrote:So I had a couple thoughts on this. One thought is to just use the positions we've got, which I think makes the most sense at least during a transition period.

Another thought is we could vote on people's ideas for what the positions would be.

For now, we need a better government than what we currently have. How is this for a compromise? We keep the current positions and such, but once the new government is implemented we vote on title changes and power redistribution, I.E. officer A needs border control and officer B does not need embassies.

Republic Of Greater Cuba, Civilisunio

[nation=short]forestavia[/nation] TG me the last known LC members so i can include them in the LC/Judicial Branch factbook.

Republic Of Greater Cuba

Whoever loses the race for prime minister will become the minister of war. (the canidates for prime minister are me and new bacon)

Powers: no official powers, coordinates raid / defense activities outside TMC involving TMC in some way.

Republic Of Greater Cuba, Exotic Lemon

Plugo wrote:Whoever loses the race for prime minister will become the minister of war. (the canidates for prime minister are me and new bacon)

Powers: no official powers, coordinates raid / defense activities outside TMC involving TMC in some way.

you two are the cofounders of the battle guard along with me.

Republic Of Greater Cuba

Plugo wrote:Whoever loses the race for prime minister will become the minister of war. (the canidates for prime minister are me and new bacon)

Powers: no official powers, coordinates raid / defense activities outside TMC involving TMC in some way.

Can I please run?

Republic Of Greater Cuba wrote:Can I please run?

for what?

Republic Of Greater Cuba

Republic Of Greater Cuba wrote:PM

we already had a poll for it, and you haven't held a past office.

didn't you already want to run for something?

Republic Of Greater Cuba

Plugo wrote:we already had a poll for it, and you haven't held a past office.

didn't you already want to run for something?

Yeah, but it was rudely taken away from me by this stupid revolution

Parakka Northland

Republic Of Greater Cuba wrote:Yeah, but it was rudely taken away from me by this stupid revolution

I would not call it stupid. It was necessary.

Republic Of Greater Cuba

Exotic Lemon wrote:I would not call it stupid. It was necessary.

Thats a opinioned statement, and not a fact, different views mean different things

Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon

Republic Of Greater Cuba wrote:Yeah, but it was rudely taken away from me by this stupid revolution

i didn't mean that..

we had a poll after the revolution for offices.

Republic Of Greater Cuba

Republic Of Greater Cuba wrote:Yeah, but it was rudely taken away from me by this stupid revolution

You are one of our newest members, I would not run for PM. Run for something else.

Republic Of Greater Cuba

Republic Of Greater Cuba wrote:Thats a opinioned statement, and not a fact, different views mean different things

Perhaps, I feared a split into two regions, so I resigned and let [nation=short]naumadal[/nation] do his revolution. I felt if I didn't resign the region would fragment into two. I don't regret it.

Plugo

Exotic Lemon wrote:You are one of our newest members, I would not run for PM. Run for something else.

He can't run for it anyway.

He was running for WAD: https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=67808

but you took it. He can change what he is running for if he tg's me.

start the poll for pm lemon, 2days, me and bacon, WA members only.

Republic Of Greater Cuba

Exotic Lemon wrote:You are one of our newest members, I would not run for PM. Run for something else.

Like? Apart from that all I do is write big factbooks or write alternate history storys, nothing really action packed

Plugo

Republic Of Greater Cuba wrote:Like? Apart from that all I do is write big factbooks or write alternate history storys, nothing really action packed

also note in a year or a year and a half I might publish something

Republic Of Greater Cuba wrote:Like? Apart from that all I do is write big factbooks or write alternate history storys, nothing really action packed

If you don't do anything why run for the most important position. It is not up to me to decide what you should or shouldn't run for.

Republic Of Greater Cuba, Plugo

Republic Of Greater Cuba wrote:Like? Apart from that all I do is write big factbooks or write alternate history storys, nothing really action packed

factbooks would be culture.

Republic Of Greater Cuba, Exotic Lemon

Plugo wrote:factbooks would be culture.

NS culture?

Exotic Lemon

Exotic Lemon wrote:If you don't do anything why run for the most important position. It is not up to me to decide what you should or shouldn't run for.

start the poll boiiiiiiiiii

Republic Of Greater Cuba

Republic Of Greater Cuba wrote:NS culture?

minister of culture.

Republic Of Greater Cuba

Plugo wrote:start the poll boiiiiiiiiii

starting now.

Plugo wrote:minister of culture.

I see

Plugo wrote:start the poll boiiiiiiiiii

done.

Lampar

Post self-deleted by Lampar.

Plugo why spam me with getting the poll up and then just delete it?

Republic Of Greater Cuba

Lampar wrote:I vote New Bacon.

keep it in the telegrams for now. telegram [nation=short]Plugo[/nation]

Republic Of Greater Cuba, Lampar, Plugo

Exotic Lemon wrote:Plugo why spam me with getting the poll up and then just delete it?

i didnt delete it. i created one because you where taking too long and it deleted yours.

Republic Of Greater Cuba

I need candidates for Grand Duke. Telegram me if you are interested, and what you plan on doing if appointed.

Republic Of Greater Cuba, Plugo

Plugo wrote:i didnt delete it. i created one because you where taking too long and it deleted yours.

I just posted it.

Lampar wrote:I vote New Bacon.

Guess ill be supporting someone else for minister of defense ;)

Exotic Lemon wrote:I need candidates for Grand Duke. Telegram me if you are interested, and what you plan on doing if appointed.

Just to clarify, thats basically the delegates assistant.

Lampar

Exotic Lemon wrote:I need candidates for Grand Duke. Telegram me if you are interested, and what you plan on doing if appointed.

Do you have to be a former government member for that as well?

Republic Of Greater Cuba wrote:Do you have to be a former government member for that as well?

Don't get smart./

Republic Of Greater Cuba

Plugo wrote:Guess ill be supporting someone else for minister of defense ;)

Just to clarify, thats basically the delegates assistant.

I know. I actually read the government structure.

Plugo

Plugo wrote:Don't get smart./

Trust me, I am stupid enough

Plugo

Republic Of Greater Cuba wrote:Do you have to be a former government member for that as well?

no.

Republic Of Greater Cuba, Plugo

Post by Exotic Lemon suppressed by Plugo.

Exotic Lemon

[nation=short]plugo[/nation] you would suppress a post about kittens. You really need to chill. :)

Republic Of Greater Cuba, Plugo

Ima go shower, no kitten talking!

Republic Of Greater Cuba, Exotic Lemon

Exotic Lemon wrote:[nation=short]plugo[/nation] you would suppress a post about kittens. You really need to chill. :)

I spoke too soon.

Republic Of Greater Cuba

[nation=short]Plugo[/nation], [nation=short]new bacon[/nation] has the ability to vote for himself but you do not. How shall we keep it fair?

Republic Of Greater Cuba

Exotic Lemon wrote:[nation=short]Plugo[/nation], [nation=short]new bacon[/nation] has the ability to vote for himself but you do not. How shall we keep it fair?

I do, the non wa branch is still alive.

(commons is non wa, lords is wa)

Republic Of Greater Cuba

i encourage everyone who is eligible to vote in the poll to do so.

Republic Of Greater Cuba, Exotic Lemon

Plugo wrote:i encourage everyone who is eligible to vote in the poll to do so.

non wa that includes you.

Republic Of Greater Cuba

Exotic Lemon wrote:non wa that includes you.

yup

Republic Of Greater Cuba, Exotic Lemon

Plugo wrote:yup

like my new leader?

Republic Of Greater Cuba, Plugo

I know who I'm voting for....

[spoiler]

TAPE FACE! :)

[/spoiler]

New Bacon, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Exotic Lemon

Everyone please vote here regarding embassies with bunicken

https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=68120

Forestavia

Forestavia wrote:I know who I'm voting for....

[spoiler]

TAPE FACE! :)

[/spoiler]

-_-

Gimmie the last known LC list.

And since oakplumington is empire of TMC you should give it a redo.

Forestavia, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Exotic Lemon

Exotic Lemon wrote:Everyone please vote here regarding embassies with bunicken

https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=68120

Lampar's arguments from a couple days ago concerning an embassy with Bunicken are very convincing. I was tempted to change my mind. However, I am voting yes because Bunicken is a friendly region despite our political differences.

Republic Of Greater Cuba

Plugo wrote:-_-

Gimmie the last known LC list.

And since oakplumington is empire of TMC you should give it a redo.

Dosh Semiw, Kazukame, Plugo, Mugwop, Parakka Northland, Forestavia, Republic of Greater Cuba, AU912 Mystical Council Consulate, Teurs

As for Oakplumington, I am working on my RP. My RP's take a little time to implement. For now, you can list my main (Forestavia) as the region's Monarch for RP purposes. Things will be a little less forced that way.

Republic Of Greater Cuba, Plugo, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon

Forestavia wrote:Dosh Semiw, Kazukame, Plugo, Mugwop, Parakka Northland, Forestavia, Republic of Greater Cuba, AU912 Mystical Council Consulate, Teurs

As for Oakplumington, I am working on my RP. My RP's take a little time to implement. For now, you can list my main (Forestavia) as the region's Monarch for RP purposes. Things will be a little less forced that way.

Does that make me heir? And also can I change my title to jarl or something better than viceroy

Plugo

[nation=short]Plugo[/nation], [nation=short]Exotic Lemon[/nation]

You can place my vote for Plugo for Prime Minister.

Plugo, Exotic Lemon

Exotic Lemon wrote:Does that make me heir? And also can I change my title to jarl or something better than viceroy

Heir to the throne? Maybe. I'm not sure. As for titles, I'd go over those details with AU912 since he designed the system.

Plugo, Civilisunio, Exotic Lemon

Hmm I'll cast my vote in later for this vote.

Plugo, Civilisunio, Exotic Lemon

Forestavia wrote:Dosh Semiw, Kazukame, Plugo, Mugwop, Parakka Northland, Forestavia, Republic of Greater Cuba, AU912 Mystical Council Consulate, Teurs

I made a mistake. I'm only serving as acting Lunar Councillor right now. You can remove me from the Lunar Council list if we need to cut down on the size. Also be sure to ask Mugwop if he still plans to resign. You can easily reduce the size of the council by two seats that way.

Republic Of Greater Cuba, Plugo, Civilisunio

Forestavia wrote:I made a mistake. I'm only serving as acting Lunar Councillor right now. You can remove me from the Lunar Council list if we need to cut down on the size. Also be sure to ask Mugwop if he still plans to resign. You can easily reduce the size of the council by two seats that way.

I do. But how many total seats are gonna be there now?

Republic Of Greater Cuba

[nation=short]Plugo[/nation] and [nation=short]Exotic Lemon[/nation]

I believe I said in our last poll that I would be running for WA delegate, is their a reason why I have not been put down in the poll?

Also why is the poll only running for 2 days? Surly it should be running for a minimum of 3?

Forestavia, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Exotic Lemon, Mugwop

Parakka Northland wrote:[nation=short]Plugo[/nation] and [nation=short]Exotic Lemon[/nation]

I believe I said in our last poll that I would be running for WA delegate, is their a reason why I have not been put down in the poll?

Also why is the poll only running for 2 days? Surly it should be running for a minimum of 3?

Yeah I feel that not only is the poll too short, there was little to no time for people to announce candidacy.

I propose this poll to be deleted, and a new poll is created:

Do you wish to run and handle the responsibilities of being Prime Minister (delegate) of The Mystacial Council

YES

NO

People with the YES vote after 2 days are put on a new poll which should last 5 days.

Forestavia, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Parakka Northland

Bacon's candidacy should be deemed invalid as it is not a WA nation

New Bacon

Even plugo is not. Then i think nations should be allowed to vote that are not in the WA.

New Bacon

Hidimba wrote:Even plugo is not. Then i think nations should be allowed to vote that are not in the WA.

They can. They just have to telegram plugo

Kazukame, Republic Of Greater Cuba

Mugwop wrote:Yeah I feel that not only is the poll too short, there was little to no time for people to announce candidacy.

I propose this poll to be deleted, and a new poll is created:

Do you wish to run and handle the responsibilities of being Prime Minister (delegate) of The Mystacial Council

YES

NO

People with the YES vote after 2 days are put on a new poll which should last 5 days.

I didn't think we had a democratically elected delegate. I thought people just endorsed whoever they want

Republic Of Greater Cuba, Civilisunio

Parakka Northland wrote:[nation=short]Plugo[/nation] and [nation=short]Exotic Lemon[/nation]

I believe I said in our last poll that I would be running for WA delegate, is their a reason why I have not been put down in the poll?

Also why is the poll only running for 2 days? Surly it should be running for a minimum of 3?

You have polls, fix it if you want. I didn't even call the poll it was plugo. You guys don't need my approval for every tiny request

Kazukame, Republic Of Greater Cuba

Exotic Lemon wrote:I didn't think we had a democratically elected delegate. I thought people just endorsed whoever they want

Under the new government structure isn't the prime minister suppose to be the delegate?

Republic Of Greater Cuba, Civilisunio

Parakka Northland wrote:Under the new government structure isn't the prime minister suppose to be the delegate?

No I am viceroy. We changed it up a little

Plugo

[nation=short]mugwop[/nation] [nation=short]parakka_northland[/nation]

this poll isn't for delegate so why would i put you in the poll?

we had a poll over a week ago for people to announce their campaigns so they had plenty of time.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=67808

Civilisunio

Plugo wrote:[nation=short]mugwop[/nation] [nation=short]parakka_northland[/nation]

this poll isn't for delegate so why would i put you in the poll?

we had a poll over a week ago for people to announce their campaigns so they had plenty of time.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=67808

Very true. Mugwop didnt specify, but parakka did, he wanted to be delegate, but Thats invalid since Exotic Lemon holds the position. [nation=short]parakka_northland[/nation] you can message Exotic Lemon to change your candidacy.

Plugo, Exotic Lemon

Plugo wrote:[nation=short]mugwop[/nation] [nation=short]parakka_northland[/nation]

this poll isn't for delegate so why would i put you in the poll?

we had a poll over a week ago for people to announce their campaigns so they had plenty of time.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=67808

Also, [nation=short]plugo[/nation]

You know that if you want to save sometime when you want to mention someone just do @ then their name, if its 2 words put a underscore after the 1st word then put the 2nd word.

Republic Of Greater Cuba

Civilisunio wrote:Very true. Mugwop didnt specify, but parakka did, he wanted to be delegate, but Thats invalid since Exotic Lemon holds the position. [nation=short]parakka_northland[/nation] you can message Exotic Lemon to change your candidacy.

Yeah, and the delegacy could change at any time so their isn't really a point of an official election

Republic Of Greater Cuba, Exotic Lemon

Plugo wrote:Yeah, and the delegacy could change at any time so their isn't really a point of an official election

And in my opinion we have a good delegate, now people just want the power

Exotic Lemon, Civilisunioan Colonys

Republic Of Greater Cuba wrote:And in my opinion we have a good delegate, now people just want the power

How kind. But my reign is not unchallenged. I have heard rumors of a plot to remove me. If you want me gone, state it openly, I have little patience for backstabbing, intriguing movements.

Kazukame, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Civilisunio, Civilisunioan Colonys

Exotic Lemon wrote:How kind. But my reign is not unchallenged. I have heard rumors of a plot to remove me. If you want me gone, state it openly, I have little patience for backstabbing, intriguing movements.

Hello

Civilisunio

Civilisunioan Colonys wrote:Hello

Oh, you made it, hello.

Civilisunioan Colonys

Civilisunioan Colonys wrote:Hello

Hello. I wonder who your main is

Civilisunio, Civilisunioan Colonys

Exotic Lemon wrote:Hello. I wonder who your main is

Me too.

Exotic Lemon, Civilisunioan Colonys

Mugwop wrote:I do. But how many total seats are gonna be there now?

The new plan calls for an odd number. Without you and me, there will be seven - and possibly less if others resign after getting elected to new government positions.

Forestavia wrote:The new plan calls for an odd number. Without you and me, there will be seven - and possibly less if others resign after getting elected to new government positions.

We do not need 7. The reason there was a whole revolution was a massive government.

Rondaland

Republic Of Greater Cuba wrote:And in my opinion we have a good delegate, now people just want the power

Not trying to be funny here but it is ironic since you applied to become wa delegate

Republic Of Greater Cuba, Plugo, Rondaland

Parakka Northland wrote:Also why is the poll only running for 2 days? Surly it should be running for a minimum of 3?

Mugwop wrote:

People with the YES vote after 2 days are put on a new poll which should last 5 days.

I agree with these sentiments. Any election poll should be long enough for everyone to have a chance to participate. They should have a minimum stretch of three days. I recommend four. And if it's a particularly important election we could always err on the side of caution and extend the election to five days. I wouldn't go any shorter than 3 days or any longer than 5 days.

Parakka Northland

Republic Of Greater Cuba wrote:And in my opinion we have a good delegate, now people just want the power

*A counter-revolutionary stands up*

In the previous government, officers all had enough power and shared the power as equals. Now that the size of government is being reduced, the people's representation in government has also been reduced. It is still to early to judge our new government as it hasn't been even a week yet, but we counter-revolutionaries are still out here; and we are watching...

Republic Of Greater Cuba, Plugo, Parakka Northland

Hidimba wrote:Bacon's candidacy should be deemed invalid as it is not a WA nation

I am in the WA; refer to [nation=short]new bacon special operations command[/nation]. Just my main isn't.

Forestavia, Plugo

Forestavia wrote:I agree with these sentiments. Any election poll should be long enough for everyone to have a chance to participate. They should have a minimum stretch of three days. I recommend four. And if it's a particularly important election we could always err on the side of caution and extend the election to five days. I wouldn't go any shorter than 3 days or any longer than 5 days.

2-3 days is fine, you guys just want a stagnant poll.

We are doing the FIRST elections for the positions so we need to do elections for every position, not one week just for prime minister.

New Bacon, Plugo

New Bacon wrote:I am in the WA; refer to [nation=short]new bacon special operations command[/nation]. Just my main isn't.

I was on a mission last night which is why my WA wasn't present in my puppet.

Plugo, Rondaland

New Bacon wrote:I was on a mission last night which is why my WA wasn't present in my puppet.

The military was on the move last night, I see.

New Bacon, Plugo, Rondaland

Forestavia wrote:The new plan calls for an odd number. Without you and me, there will be seven - and possibly less if others resign after getting elected to new government positions.

Exotic Lemon wrote:We do not need 7. The reason there was a whole revolution was a massive government.

The LC is just the unappointed judicial branch tho

Plugo

Exotic Lemon wrote:Not trying to be funny here but it is ironic since you applied to become wa delegate

Times change

Plugo, Exotic Lemon

Exotic Lemon wrote:How kind. But my reign is not unchallenged. I have heard rumors of a plot to remove me. If you want me gone, state it openly, I have little patience for backstabbing, intriguing movements.

I have no good reason to have you gone

Plugo, Exotic Lemon

Rondaland wrote:2-3 days is fine, you guys just want a stagnant poll.

We want fair elections with a reasonable time period. I can compromise on 3 days as a bare minimum for elections. Efficiency is wonderful until nations' votes are disenfranchised because they haven't had a chance.

My decree as Monarch are for all citizens of TMC to have a voice in government. I will use my royal authority to delete any election poll OR legislation poll that does not last a minimum of 3 days. This goes along with government transparency.

Republic Of Greater Cuba, Parakka Northland

Forestavia wrote:We want fair elections with a reasonable time period. I can compromise on 3 days as a bare minimum for elections. Efficiency is wonderful until nations' votes are disenfranchised because they haven't had a chance.

My decree as Monarch are for all citizens of TMC to have a voice in government. I will use my royal authority to delete any election poll OR legislation poll that does not last a minimum of 3 days. This goes along with government transparency.

What is your title? Emperor? Monarch is just saying that you rule a imperial government

Republic Of Greater Cuba wrote:What is your title? Emperor? Monarch is just saying that you rule a imperial government

i changed it to emperor yesterday

Republic Of Greater Cuba

Forestavia wrote:We want fair elections with a reasonable time period. I can compromise on 3 days as a bare minimum for elections. Efficiency is wonderful until nations' votes are disenfranchised because they haven't had a chance.

My decree as Monarch are for all citizens of TMC to have a voice in government. I will use my royal authority to delete any election poll OR legislation poll that does not last a minimum of 3 days. This goes along with government transparency.

NO!

If anyone actually has a complaint then whatever, but you just assuming everyone is pissed about the poll time is not a valid reason

Republic Of Greater Cuba

We can do 3 day polls normally, NOT FOR THE STARTING ELECTIONS!

Plugo wrote:NO!

If anyone actually has a complaint then whatever, but you just assuming everyone is pissed about the poll time is not a valid reason

Eh, sometimes those polls are really freaking long, but hey, thats just me

Plugo, Exotic Lemon

Republic Of Greater Cuba wrote:What is your title? Emperor? Monarch is just saying that you rule a imperial government

I think I'll just stick with "Monarch" for now.

Republic Of Greater Cuba

Republic Of Greater Cuba wrote:Eh, sometimes those polls are really freaking long, but hey, thats just me

Everyone knows that

Republic Of Greater Cuba

Plugo wrote:We can do 3 day polls normally, NOT FOR THE STARTING ELECTIONS!

We need to start with a firm foundation. I am not the only one protesting the poll length. This decree will be enforced.

Republic Of Greater Cuba, Parakka Northland

Forestavia wrote:We need to start with a firm foundation. I am not the only one protesting the poll length. This decree will be enforced.

The "monarchs" role is only for emergencies, you can't just pass stuff through without a vote.

Forestavia, Republic Of Greater Cuba

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