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Region: The Mystical Council
Post self-deleted by Lampar.
From my point of view:
Democracy is horrible, except when it isn't, but the periods of non-horribleness rarely last.
Republicanism is awesome until people decide they can interpret the constitution any way they like. Then it is horrible.
Libertarianism is awesome, except when the people are horrible, or when it is too weak to fight evil, or when people forget what libertarianism ought to be.
Socialism is awesome until you run out of other people's money. Then it is horrible.
Fascism is horrible.
State Communism is horrible.
Anarco-Communism might be awesome, but I can't figure out how it would be stable on a large scale.
State Capitalism seems a little too much like soft fascism to me.
Forestavia, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Northwest Germania
Same. Agora isn't even talking about it. I kinda feel down now, he was a good ns freind.
Lampar
Post self-deleted by Lampar.
They are losers. Even though he ended up ignoring me, I still upheld my respect and liked him, those d*cks dont have any respect and never really liked the guy.
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Lampar
Beam me up, Scotty.
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Civilisunio, Northwest Germania
Post self-deleted by Lampar.
You still can.....
All you need is WA in the region and more endorsements than everybody else. And it's yours! :)
Lampar
Eh.
My wa is mostly used for raids.
Likewise, I'm in Space at the moment.
Civilisunio
Thank you for stepping up to the plate. I'm also doing ambassador work in The Commonwealth Of Crowns.
Kazukame, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Northwest Germania
Post self-deleted by Northwest Germania.
I agree with most of that, but that "run out of other peoples money" quote is over used and not necessarily true :P (i am against big state socialism, big state anything but...)
I agree anarcho communism could be good, but i feel a totalitarian state would be necessary with any form of communism to equally distribute the resources.
Its also funny that you mentioned the constitution thing about republics, since i said something like that yesterday
Forestavia, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Civilisunio
Although that's more of a defense situation than a raid.
Alistia, Northwest Germania
You know, this could really help with cyber security.
Alistia, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Northwest Germania
It's tea time for me. I'll be back in a few.
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Civilisunio, Northwest Germania
Ima go shower.
If you want good cyber security, contact me in 16 years
Barishmacht, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Civilisunio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk3hnuL-rE0
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Northwest Germania
Good cyber security revolves around the number 216.
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Northwest Germania
"When being beaten by a stick, calling it 'the peoples stick' does not lessen the beating."
Goodnight.
Forestavia, Barishmacht, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Civilisunio, Exotic Lemon
Well said
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Northwest Germania
Very cold war like
Barishmacht, Civilisunio, Northwest Germania
A couple of things:
1. Someone update the WFE to link to the correct "Our Government Frameworks" dispatch.
2. Have there been defined term limits established on each government postion that requires one? If not, Oak, Exotic, or the new Prime Minister should do so A.S.A.P.
Forestavia
Thanks for your suggestion
I am embarking on my first trip as the foreign minister to [nation=short]The[/nation] Commonwealth of Crowns
Kazukame, Exotic Lemon
Concerning #2
Civilisunio is drafting something with a little more detail. It will be based on Plugo's current dispatch. And yes (I know what you're thinking), I'll see to it that the region gets a chance to vote for or against the more detailed draft. For each subsequent draft of the framework/constitution we will have an opportunity as a region to vote for or against it.
Can someone help me with this audit?
Key:
Everyone that has "WA" or "WA elsewhere" is good. Their vote will count.
"?" means that your vote is being researched.
"Invalid" indicates an illegal vote which will be thrown out in accordance with the Fraud Act.
[spoiler=Routine Poll Audit]
(Please Note - Not Official)
New Bacon: Dosh Semiw (WA), Mugwop (WA), Republic of Greater Cuba (WA), Anahuac Empire (WA), Frankiestine (?), Lampar (WA elsewhere), VIVA ITALIA (invalid), Parakka Northland (WA), and New Bacon Special Operations Command (WA).
Plugo / Northwest Germania: Moltavo (Invalid), Emforia (WA), Dublihn (?), Rondaland (?), Northwest Germania (?), Exotic Lemon (WA), Kazukame (WA), Tumetu-iin Noyan (?), Barishmacht (WA), Alistia (?), and Forestavia (WA elsewhere).
[/spoiler]
House of Lords >> http://www.nationstates.net/nation=plugo/detail=factbook/id=689116
House of Commons >> http://www.nationstates.net/nation=plugo/detail=factbook/id=683084
Northwest Germania
I'm happy to announce that we hopefully will soon begin having diplomatic ties with the USSR!
Forestavia
I added some tags that I think describe our region. If anyone disagrees with any of the tags feel free to remove them.
Keep up the good work, Lampar.
Lampar
I am resigning so my term doesn't really matter
I'll be working in some other regions as well.
It's sort of like a campaigning tour of communist regions. But to have peaceful talks instead of trying to get them on our side.
Exotic Lemon
I am also going with him, but more as s backup diplomat. Lampar will be doing most of the talking
Lampar
Thanks.
Civilisunio, Exotic Lemon
Hello every body!:)
Exotic Lemon
I will try to get back on later this evening.
Civilisunio, Exotic Lemon
Alright.:)
I like how I was specifically mentioned and no one else was.... I might have challaneged on you on the RMB but I have never sent you harassing emails! If someone has been doing that then you can name and shame then on the RMB, not simply cast full blame at my door, which is how your above post looks.
Exotic Lemon, Northwest Germania
Post by Exotic Lemon suppressed by Oakplumington.
I am not casting full blame, but you have been harassing me nonstop. You are a main reason why I am resigning
Republic Of Greater Cuba
He say's he likes you as delegate, so don't say your resigning because of him, you have your own reasons.
Exotic Lemon
I have many other reasons. I listed 5 but I have even more. Don't worry about it
as a member of the region its my job to worry about it :P
Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
Perhaps. But don't. I make my own decisions
Then I will remove myself from the region for awhile.
Northwest Germania
No need to do that. I hold no grudge.
Northwest Germania
If I'm your main and presumably your only reason for resigning then ill remove myself from the equation and stay in the back up region. I will not be the main cause of you resigning
Northwest Germania
Post by Exotic Lemon suppressed by Oakplumington.
You are not even the main. You stopped harassing me so don't go. Why is everyone making a big deal out of this
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Civilisunio
Not taking sides, but you did point him out as the only one. Not trying to be a ass to you, but you did kinda start it, he does have a right to make a deal about it
Northwest Germania
Yeah I was wrong to do that
Republic Of Greater Cuba
Why are you being so secretive about this?..
Seems like you would have at least told those you trust why you are resigning.
*makes a conspiracy theory*
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Civilisunio, Exotic Lemon
He has.;)
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Exotic Lemon
Secretive? How am I being secretive? I am happy to answer any questions you want
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Civilisunio
I winked because i was messing around. No harsh feelings!:)
Exotic Lemon
What is your theory?
IDK.
Why are you planing to resign?
Exotic Lemon
I have been in the government a long time, and I want to get back into raiding.
Lampar
Post self-deleted by Lampar.
Bored
Civilisunio
;)
Republic Of Greater Cuba
Just thought of something
Civilisunio
What is it? Is it an evil plan to take over the world
Republic Of Greater Cuba
What?
Republic Of Greater Cuba
No, but it has to do with something. So I am writing a story for a class and I was thinking about doing a mini detective one during Austria in 18890, bit it wouldn't be a ordinary story, it has to do with the death of one year old Adolf Hitler
That a good story idea?
hello?
The results of the poll will be finalized in about 24-48 hours.
I need everyone who doesn't have WA below to telegram me where their WA is located otherwise you risk losing your vote. I repeat: Non-WA nations have 48 hours to respond.
New Bacon: Anahuac Empire, Ilusat, Mugwop, VIVA ITALIA, New Bacon Special Operations Command, Lampar, Egdalia, Koukken, Frankiestine, Erendelia, Jimiba, Pastia, Tomarland, Dhinka, GoldClave, Republic of Greater Cuba, Sirdhir, Lese, Mariborough, Patialand, Havendish, Dosh Semiw, and Pewter.
Plugo / Northwest Germania: Kazukame, Dublihn, Forestavia, Rondaland, Alistia, Northwest Germania, Exotic Lemon, Moltavo, Tumetu-iin Noyan, and
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Lampar, Exotic Lemon
two days to count a ballot! that is insane!
"Plugo / Northwest Germania: Kazukame, Dublihn, Forestavia, Rondaland, Alistia, Northwest Germania, Exotic Lemon, Moltavo, Tumetu-iin Noyan, and
"
whats the and?
Exotic Lemon
I saw a couple hours ago the poll was tied, now I come back and it is 23 to 9? There are puppet votes here, its just not possible for 10+ votes to all show up randomly.
Lampar, Plugo
I agree. Good thing we have a Fraud Act.
Plugo, Civilisunio, Exotic Lemon
The first 24 hours is reasonable. The next 24 hours is for any stragglers. I will have a semi-official count for you tomorrow.
Plugo
What are the results with all the current voters (counting unadit?)
Definitely.
If you look at the results, you can see nations that you don't even know exist.
Plugo, Exotic Lemon
most of the puppets in here are controlled my high ranking fascists so..
Tumetu-Iin Noyan, Exotic Lemon
Post by Lampar suppressed by Tumetu-Iin Noyan.
Then we need to get rid of them ASAP, we don't want fascist filth in our region.
Tumetu-Iin Noyan, Plugo
How do you know?..
Plugo
I have no problem with fascists but they have an agenda against plugo so I say we investigate. Them voting in our poll ruins democracy.
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Lampar, Tumetu-Iin Noyan, Plugo
Their past voting records in here, and information from an informant.
6
Barishmacht. I messed up the past two posts. Give me a few minutes guys.
Republic Of Greater Cuba
Unofficial Results of the Prime Minister Elections
New Bacon: Anahuac Empire (WA), Ilusat (void), Mugwop (WA), VIVA ITALIA (void), New Bacon Special Operations Command (WA), Lampar (Commons), Egdalia (void), Koukken (void), Frankiestine (????), Erendelia (void), Jimiba (void), Pastia (void), Tomarland (void), Dhinka (void), GoldClave (void), Republic of Greater Cuba (WA), Sirdhir (void), Lese (void), Mariborough (void), Patialand (void), Havendish (void), Dosh Semiw (WA), and Pewter (void).
6
Plugo / Northwest Germania: Kazukame (WA), Dublihn (commons), Forestavia (commons), Rondaland (????) , Alistia (void), Northwest Germania (commons), Exotic Lemon (WA), Moltavo (void), Tumetu-iin Noyan (being researched), and Barishmacht (WA).
6
Make that 7 - 6 unofficially.
I am including Parakka's vote for Bacon.
Plugo
Add one more to mine.
[nation=short]emforia[/nation] voted for me but he has been switching between here and geneva.
He has a puppet in here currently though.
cap somthing
I'm granting a one time exception to Parakka only due to the exceptional events that occurred earlier today. Emforia's vote doesn't count since they weren't here at the close of the poll.
An apocalyptic invasion can not be suppressed. Resistance is futile.
CEO of Total Advanced Research Projects
Forestavia
they voted in the poll before though, it just got removed because they left, but they still have a nation here.
also what "exceptional events" are they?
if you are going to make an exception, don't do it to favor one side. all or none.
Exotic Lemon
don't forget about my vote.
it got deleted from the poll cus i came to help out in the isles.
I'm not going into it. Parakka is still within the boundaries of TMC as they are located in the back-up region. Emforia is not within our boundaries and the poll is closed. This is not favoritism. Trust me on this one. Let this one go, Plugo.
Ok, you must be in the region for your vote to count. It's simple. Can't we just agree to keep the voting simple?
Oak no you gotta explain why Paeakka's vote counts. I didn't even vote for Plugo, but he deserves to know that. If you can't make the reason public, you gotta at least telegram it to him.
Plugo, Exotic Lemon
Let me sleep on this one. I'll make a final decision tomorrow morning in regard to this "exception". I want to play this out in my head and right now it isn't clear to me what the right thing to do is. Give me about 12 hours.
Fair enough
Exotic Lemon
when is parakka coming back?
New Bacon, Plugo
"That's it! Everyone in this region with WA needs to endorse The United States of Bcrulez immediately. By Royal Decree of Forestavia, Solar Councillor aka Solar Heart Attack. We need to take back this region. This is the Red Fleet we're dealing with. This is not a TMC-sanctioned potato plunder. We cannot let the reds redistribute our potatoes. These are OUR potatoes - not theirs."
New Bacon, Plugo, Exotic Lemon
By the way, what's up with the surge that voted for Bacon? Whose pups are these?
New Bacon, Plugo, Naumadal
Post by Forestavia suppressed by Naumadal.
Don't get too carried away now. That was just a joke. ;)
you put in a royal decree asking for us to help in the holy isles, now you say because i followed your decree my vote doesn't count.
I also feel both emforia's and parakka's votes should be counted, because they both did vote in the poll, and where in embassy regions when the poll closed.
Probably controlled by others outside the region.
Of note is that they all voted for borudiaa's acct within an hour when he was running for defense minister.
New Bacon, Plugo, Exotic Lemon
Good point. Right now I'm leaning toward no exceptions for anybody mainly for the sake of us keeping our sanity.
Exotic Lemon
Great.. the one time i agree with one of your decrees the end result is my vote isn't counted in a election..
Seems like I can't win.
When i disagree with them they get passed, the one time i agree and follow it, my voting rights are revoked.
Exotic Lemon
Excuse me you all but, HOW'D THE HELL I GET TO 23 VOTES AT THE DEAD END OF THE POLL? THIS HAS TO BE PUPPET VOTING.
Exotic Lemon
Forest you did ask naumadal to help, and he donated more than most of us, he should not lose voting rights. Same with parakka.
New Bacon, Naumadal
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