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Region: The Mystical Council
Outside candidacy polls, where you want to make it clear for people that not everyone has to nominate a candidate, I have always been an opponent of "abstain". It supports apathy, and apathy is just terrible.
Yeah I don't see why not, which is why even the poll itself says "This will be the permanent regional flag, until a day where a new flag is voted for"
http://i.imgur.com/uvQb41f.png
Was hoping mine would default in for the vote since it's been around as a suggestion for so long, but eh ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I guess we gotta play by the rules.
Here's one for the upset vote!
Parakka Northland
A new regional holiday is on the rise - the day we adopt a new flag. May 2nd. Flag Day. Feel that? That's regional pride you're feeling.
Malcholm, Civilisunio, Parakka Northland, Viva Italia
Good idea!
Malcholm, Parakka Northland
Monthly Report for May:https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=815462
Also I am a bit annoyed that I don't have a report from the Defense or foreign minister
Malcholm, Parakka Northland
Get the delegate to sack them lol
Forestavia, Malcholm, Viva Italia
Or founder. After all your the head of the ministry
I say they get a warning because this thing has not been around that long, but ultimately I would leave it up to you because you are the head of ministry, as Parakka Northland said.
Truxol, Parakka Northland
If you want to go as far as punishments.
Parakka Northland
[nation=short]Alistia[/nation] will probably share his report when he's online, but I don't think [nation=short]The_Immortal_Elysium[/nation] has any interest in engaging with us. He only ever talks with the people at The Bar On The Corner Of Every Region. I even telegrammed him but no response. You will probably have to move for impeachment.
We could end embassies for a little while.
I don't think that the actual problem here.
Malcholm
Its not, but ya know...
Parakka Northland
It can be used
Parakka Northland
Just to see what happens? Well I guess it can be funny.
Since it's embassy matters, you should probably first talk with the Minister of Fore... oh wait, talk with Viva about it.
Parakka Northland
I agree.Alistia isn't really the one I am worried about.I think an impeachment vote is neccesary.
Malcholm, Truxol, Parakka Northland
Can you appoint me judicial president?
Oh yes Bar please do that. Also thank you for reminding me so that I can update some stuff on my end as well.
Malcholm, Truxol, Civilisunio
Also new flag is the new flag http://i.imgur.com/pLFzP0d.png
Civilisunio
First week of tmc nations of the week poll is over, please nominate new people! Congratulations to both [nation=short]gyuamno[/nation] and [nation=short]mugwop[/nation], as they tied for nation of the week! You can nominate the same people again, but they cannot win more than two weeks in a row. Please be sure to tag me in the post. Thank you all.
Barishmacht, Truxol
Historical record is also up https://www.nationstates.net/nation=exotic_lemon/detail=factbook/id=816328
Barishmacht
[nation=short]VIVA ITALIA[/nation] This dispatch says https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=709618 Judicial President has only Border Control, Polls, Embassies powers. Last I remember that the JP had all five powers. Did I forget something or is the dispatch wrong?
Also you or [nation=short]Exotic Lemon[/nation] please update flag http://i.imgur.com/pLFzP0d.png
Viva Italia
The president only has 3 powers
Done
Fun Fact
The formula for calculating our region's activity level is this.
1. Go to the activity page.
2. (The number of times you have to click "More..." to get to the end) + 1 = the regional activity level
For example, today our region's activity level is 2 which is classified as "Very low". Wanted to share the formula since I won't be updating the info center for awhile.
Malcholm, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
Since no one is nominating people for nation of the week I will go ahead and nominate someone: [nation=short]civilisunio[/nation]!
Truxol
Oh yeah, uh.... Looks like Ifififififif ceased to exist. So I'm gonna nominate Maringania this time around!
Malcholm, Exotic Lemon
*Boycotts making a report until a flag revote happens*
Malcholm, Truxol, Civilisunio, Exotic Lemon
Don't call it a boycott cause you'll just get fired, because it's technically a strike. Call it a "filibuster". Yeah, a filibuster! It sounds political, eloquent, and you'll still keep your job. (Maybe.)
Alistia, Malcholm, Exotic Lemon
I do like the new flag by the way. It's pretty cool.
Malcholm
But TMC isn't a right to work region, unions, strikes, etc are all legal and encouraged :)
"Representative of the sith lord says: Until the government re holds the flag referendum, we do not need to report to the government. The government should follow the will of the people, if they don't, its our duty as a ministry state to represent their interests."
Malcholm, Truxol
Oh. I see your papers are in order. Very good. Carry on then. For the will of the people! :)
*sips tea*
Alistia, Malcholm
Uh, what the heck?
*pours shot of whiskey*
Alistia, Malcholm
I nominate [nation=short]Exotic_Lemon[/nation] for nation of the week.
Alistia
Greetings, esteemed residents of The Mystical Council.
Allow me to (re-)introduce myself: I'm Libertatem's recently-appointed Chancellor of State [nation=short]Condealism[/nation] - I represent President [nation=short]Hyderbourg[/nation]'s administration. In the interest of interregional prosperity and fellowship, I thought I'd stop by, say hi, and let you know that we plan not only to bolster our communications with you and other allied regions, but to make ourselves available to address any concerns or discuss any multiregional endeavors you may have. If you have any questions or comments, feel free to reply to this comment, and/or send one or both of us a telegram. As for how our new foreign policies may affect your region in particular, I have the following information to share:
Our doors are always open if there's anything you need.
Forestavia, Alistia, Malcholm, Truxol
Technically you should have had your report written before the flag poll was posted.
Role Play
Representatives of Northlandc had this to say: "You are part of the government and thus are held accountable to the people as you called it. As we are not part of the government we want to know what you have done for the region in your position. We see this as a delaying tactic, as we suspect that you are unable to write a report, due to not having done anything in your position?
In fact we a member of the people call on the Founder to suspend the current government, due to the lack of activity on said government and the region under their management" This statement was met with a flurry of questions from reporters present at the time.
Forestavia
Make non-deaf-inducing regional anthem.
Malcholm
Hey thanks for dropping by.
Forestavia, Malcholm
Anytime. How's life in The Mystical Council?
Civilisunio
Great. We are trying to reach a high level of activity but that is hard to do without a proper law in place *cough https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=810402*
Enough about us though. How is your region doing?
Forestavia, Truxol
The Poll for impeachment of [nation=short]The Immortal Elysium[/nation]:https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_mystical_council#pollid_91498
We can also fall back on the Basic Rights of Nations document.
"14. All nations shall retain the right to move about from region to region as they desire. However, nations must at the very least keep a puppet in the region in order to vote. Furthermore, any government officer who neglects their duties in the midst of travelling may be removed from office by whatever method is deemed appropriate via legislation."
That plus Civ's thing ought to do the trick.
Alistia, Malcholm
Ya gotta admit, we've got a pretty solid relationship with that Bar on the Corner region. To me that counts as foreign affairs.
Anyone know where Kazukame went? He was probably the best foreign affairs officer we've ever had. He really raised the bar.
Alistia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland
The gears could use some oil in places but we're still chugging along.
I haven't been too active lately so I have no idea what's happening here. But something IS definitely happening.
*Offers tea*
*Decides not to hold back and offers whiskey too*
So how's Libertatem? Anything cool happening over there?
Alistia, Parakka Northland
Role Play
The Monarch walks in and sees an odd piece of paper on his desk. Hmmm.. "What's this?"
*Reads over document*
"A request to suspend the current government from the Parakkan Northland?! This must be big. I must learn what all the fuss is about."
The monarch walks over to the balcony window and peaks out to find reporters standing outside the castle.
"Ladies and Gentleman, I assure you that the Prime Minister, Viceroy, ministry, and the Lunar Council have everything under control. The current government might be moving slowly but we have achieved an amazing level of stability that our region hasn't seen in a long time. It appears that the government is functioning smoothlyish. There is no need to panic. What we really need is a new rival to get our blood boiling. The fleeters have left us alone for a long time now. The Internationale is no longer the threat it used to be to our way of life. (They still lurk in the shadows but it's not the same menacing lurk that it used to be.) But I think we need a new enemy and we need to find one soon. And then we can conquer them into absolute submission to TMC."
Alistia, Malcholm, Civilisunio, Parakka Northland
"Thats the thing. We used to have to work for everything to be fixed but at this point we have fixed everything and we no issues to solve which can definitley halt activity. Like i have said before civilisunio has written an act to fix all of this, we just need to know what is needed and what we should take out.
Forestavia
Roleplay
Yes, you should be sure to present your proposal to the Prime Minister, Viceroy, and Mugwop. And if they don't act on it, you should go to all three of our news outlets and publicize your proposal. Sing it from the mountaintops.
Leans forward and whispers, "Or maybe we need to celebrate anarchy week..."
*Hands hot cup of tea*
Sugar?
Malcholm, Civilisunio, Parakka Northland
i believe at this moment in time we need anarchy week.
*Takes tea and sips*
Parakka Northland
I'm sorry the democratic process upsets you however I would like to have a report off you
Malcholm, Parakka Northland
Roleplay
Anarchy week may come sooner than any of us think. I just received a request from Parakka to suspend the current government. I'm sure if I give a wink and a nod to [nation=short]Barishmacht[/nation] (*winks and nods*), we can start this whole anarchy thing right away.
*Sips tea calmly*
Nothing like the thought of watching a region fall into chaos is there? My only fear is the unnecessary loss of influence.
*pours Civ more tea*
Parakka Northland
Yeah. That's right. Tell him unless he wants to explain himself before the Lunar Council. ;)
Parakka Northland, Viva Italia
Why?
There is something we need. We need an enemy. Tell us, good allies, what region on NS is your rival? "We" will help defend you from them. Maybe. If I can get enough people on board. Actually this might be more Immortal's and Alistia's job since they're in charge of foreign relations and defense. But soon we might be getting a new foreign affairs officer anyway.
Alistia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland, Viva Italia
Roleplay
Been dealing with the press all day as questions continue to circulate about our government's future.
*Monarch sits down in chair while making groany noises*
Why do I fear the loss of influence, you say?
To which I say, have you ever seen anarchy week happen here before?
then the lunar council will look into this matter.
this thread is cancer........ https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=333387&sid=9d94c3b2f90b693a7bead1402862bc62&start=10325
Malcholm
No I mean why did Parakka request government shutdown.
Someone should go give Misley a good kick in the shins 😁
🤣
I know a number of people who have bones to pick with those guys..
Civilisunio, Parakka Northland
Well, I did sort of get elected by default.
Malcholm
I am also working on one of my alts in TWP.
Alistia, Malcholm
Now who would vote against impeachment?
Malcholm, Civilisunio
Post self-deleted by Civilisunio.
Immortal Elysium lives!
Just wondering the one person who, in the poll, voted against impeachment.
Using a proxy while at school, can't check til once I get home.
Civilisunio
Of course I live, with a few AP tests to take, but I'm alive.
Malcholm, Trudeau Eulogies
I suppose we could say just about the same thing - fortunately, it seems our efforts to reach out to our allies and initiate a recruitment drive have resulted in a surge of activity.
Alistia
Our current enemy isn't so much a region, or an organization, as it is this pervasive idea that regions aren't sovereign bodies - just little more than the sum of their embassies. This is what "anti-fascist movements" like CAIN, who seem more obsessed with fighting the label of "fascism" than rejecting totalitarian doctrines, seem to believe.
You say that as though this hasn't been the case for several years. Regardless, we've closed that book, and it's not my job in particular to decide whether or not to re-open it.
Alistia, Malcholm
[B]Role Play[/B]
Statement from Governor Maximus
"Today is the start of a new revolt in the region, we are tired of this governments inability to engage with the members of the region in an effective way. We concede that some try but by and large we don't hear from the majority of our government officials. As such they need to be removed. I call upon [nation=short]Forestavia[/nation] to do the right thing and remove this ineffective government from power and restore power to the people, or people you know who can get the job done. Look at the activity levels within the region, they have dropped since this form of government has taken office. People don't run for positions because they are not worth the time to run for them. The Delegate position isn't worth anything other than being a role of care taker! I ask you the Government, Delegate and Founder, what benefits this political system has brought to the region?
Some will say stability no doubt my loyal Northmen and to this i would say nay we had stability under the original system, until it was un-democratically removed. They would say they have passed the Citizen Act, brought to the fold by our own fair Delegate. The problem is its not maintained by the ones who need to be doing... Such as the Prime Minister or The Delegate. However, most importantly, in the last Prime Minister Elections, all the candidates said they would produce a report on what each minister is doing. Now we seem to have been told that two of the ministers haven't done it, yet only one is being impeached!
This government is not fit for purpose. As such the Emperor of Parakka, has decided to send his World Assembly Delegate back to the Colony to try and turn things around here. I hope all the nations who think like we do in Northland, well endorse us so we can bring about real change."
This statement was done outside the Northland Government Building. Reporters where quick to ask questions upon its conclusion, and where told that more information would be made available as the situation progressed
Truxol, Civilisunio
These attempts to bring down the democratically elected government are terrible and are being committed by people that are unhappy they have lost their position of power.
Alistia, Truxol
Not roleplay XD:
I would also like to travel the path to delegacy and would like to ask you to trust me on my plans this time and know that i have learned from my mistakes and grown.
Alistia, Parakka Northland
I didn't lose mine i stepped down. Big difference, in what your trying to get at :)
thank you. I will post the poll now. Please remember to vote.
Truxol
Do we even need a regional anthem? I support the removal of it, but I do not really think we need a replacement.
Truxol
https://www.nationstates.net/region=mystical_council#poll is now up. - Lemon
But yet you lost the Culture election.
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_mystical_council_news_agency/detail=factbook/id=818227 is now up.
Ah that was no biggy
Just remove that ear murder first.
As promised I have also created [B]The Mystical Council News Archieve:[/B] https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=817836
A collection of all regional news articles and reports, with the newest appearing on top. I have asked New Bacon to include the dispatch in the Government Page, so it can always be found from here, under News: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=748885
Malcholm
Proposal Article 9. of The Mystical Council Elections Schedule and Policies https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=743586#proposals
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In the event that only 1 person is running for office, then this person would be the default candidate winner. However, before assuming the office, the candidate must be approved by 2 out of the 3 executive heads of goverment: WA Delegate, Prime Minister, and Judicial President. Any executive head who disapproves of the candidate, must give a reasonable argument as to why they don't find the default candidate suitable for the office they have ran for.
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Discuss!
Proposal will be voted on following the current poll.
Malcholm, Civilisunio
Interesting proposal.What would happen if the candidate was rejected by the government heads?
Civilisunio, Exotic Lemon
Yeah would the position just be empty?
Civilisunio
done.
Civilisunio
I was thinking (and I will include this if people approve) the candidate poll would be re-held, but for only 2 days (as to not push other elections way off track)
If the same candidate and only that candidate is running, then again they are automatically rejected, unless the candidate meets the 2/3 quota.
If they don't meet the quota, then the candidate poll is held for 2 days, for the last time.
If we still get the same results, then it's obvious that the region is not intrested in that office position, and so the office would be suspended for the following term.
I know some would say what about a yes/no vote. However I don't think those are a good idea when it comes to elections. With just 1 point, people won't have a comparative reference.
Malcholm, Barishmacht
How does everybody think I have done so far as Prime Minister.I would like to know what you think I need to work on.
[B]Role Play[/B]
Statement from Governor Maximus
"Well it seems our illustrious Prime Minister has brushed off our calls for the removal of the government, claiming we are all disgruntled people because we have lost our positions of power! To that i say Hahaha, we stood down from being delegate of the region voluntarily. Oh yes he was quick to point out that we put a candidate for the minister position of Culture, but the fact is im glad we lost that election. We would have made an awful culture minister. I think goes quite fair in showing that we are not bothered about losing our power base as claimed.
Now the Minister of Domestic Affairs [nation=short]Mugwop[/nation] has decided to put a proposal on the table regarding to a situation one person is elected to office by default. Long and short of it he wants to stop it. Which isn't a bad thing to a point. Though he is where it starts to goes wrong. He has decided that if only one person is interested in a position it has to be approved by the Prime Minister, Delegate (the janitor) and Judicial President. So again this seems reasonable, until the only candidate is rejected. Then a new candidate poll is held, only this time for two days instead of three and if the results are the same it well be re-held and finally if its the same then the position is suspended..... Whats up with that? Other that its a great way to push people away from the region.
This is another demonstration of a government gone mad and trying to make sure the little guy cant get involved or that things are more complicated than they need to be."
Reports where quick to throw questions at the Governor, though he declined to answer any.
Could we vote on mine as well? It has been revised everyone so just check it out if it goes up in a poll soon.
Sure you can go ahead first if you put it up after the current poll. We probably will need to discuss things more about article 9.
Malcholm, Civilisunio, Viva Italia
Ok cool. Thanks.
The back up region poll should be clear soon. Remember to vote in it! https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=91556
Civilisunio
If the end result is that the same person is rejected twice, I would think that we shouldn't need to cycle through the same election a third time. If no one has stepped forward to run against them by the beginning second election, I think it's fair to conclude that the region has no interest in the ministry position at that point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNBS1PpouTA
Awesome.
Thanks for this warm welcome
Parakka Northland
I think we will have to use that for the foreign Minister candidacy poll though.
Please suspend that until we finalize Article 9.
Malcholm, Viva Italia
More important to have a minister in place than finalising article 9 of whatever bill you are proposing
Not really. The foreign minister has done nothing for over a month and the region didn't burn down; adding few days more won't make a difference. More over, article 9 deals with elections and fixing the issue in case only 1 person runs as a candidate for the foreign minister office.
Malcholm, Civilisunio, Exotic Lemon
Very good point. Before we have another minister like immortal Elysium mine and mugwops bills will fix these issues that arised during Immortals term.
Malcholm
I agree. We have not needed it yet and it seems unlikely we will for the next few days. The prime minister or judicial pres or really any of government officials can step in if there is an emergency issue that absolutely requires foriegn affairs.
Civilisunio
Agreed
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