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Plugo wrote:You make me regret supporting your run for the council ;(

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:"The Merchant Federation of Plugo

87 minutes ago

Kid, this embassy is none off your business and is something top secret that happened before you were on the council.

Me Hospitallers and all our party mates voted for you but we did not realize you would be such a nuisance.

This is really my first time communicating with you but i would just like you to stop being such an antagonist, we will all settle it when we can but until then stop provoking it please."

Now this is very rude and disrespectful. [B]I have called time and time for someone to submit a good reason to keep the embassy with Red Harbor, none have[/B]. I grew tired of [nation=short]Plugo[/nation]'s disrespectful treatment, I have done nothing to personally offend him, and all he does is attack me and act disrespectful towards me. [B]What have I done to deserve that?[/B]

Plugo, if you are still harboring a resinetment because of this, https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=19628426 all I did was ask a simple question because I wasn't sure about the rules of the region on it, and yet you chose to be hoestile towards me. And despite that, I sent you a telegram trying to clarify that I got nothing against you:

"Wired To → Plugo

15 days ago

Hey man, I was just asking an honest question. Nothing personal."

You did not bother to reply one way or another, that is really a juvenile way for you to behave that is unbefitting of the region.

And that is why I am requesting a vote among The Lunar Council on the matter of Red Harbor. If there is a "top secret" reason, as you claim, for other councilors to keep the embassy, a reason that they chose to withhold from me, then let it be, regardless, a vote is the only way to deal with your sickening and disrespectful attitude. So try to grow up and get over it, kid.

Guys you really should be keeping this dispute among the Lunar Council and not voicing it over the entire region (a bit hypocritical of me to say that when I set up a region for our council to discuss things and argue on lol but then I thought transparency would be a good thing as it keeps things honest. Anyway I'm digressing) I'm now quite interested in why a region has been given "special treatment" as it's been brought to the whole regions attention So it should be explained to the whole region not just to individual council members. In my view anyway.

I'm also interested in why two members of the council are voicing their apparent dislike for each other on the regions RMB and why the president of the region or WA delegate or whoever is running this ship hasn't bashed your heads together yet?

Malcholm

Post self-deleted by Rrepaimziaraseh.

Parakka Northland wrote:

Plugo and Order of Hospitallers don't seem to be intrested to reply to any of my telegrams or RMB posts and give serious answers to my questions,[B] and I don't know why[/B], but Plugo is happy to send me rude disrespectful messages. He does not seem to be intrested to resolve this matter privately in a civilized manner, which is a shame. Besides, I believe in a transparent government. You Parakka know better than most. You have seen Ecuadorian and Regnum suppress the opinions of each other in The Union. Each trying to voice themselves and hide what the other said, what a mess. No, transparency is key.

That is why I bring this to the public, I wish someone can give me reasonable answers for such uncalled behavior. There might be something I am missing out, maybe there is some "top secret" stuff that has been hidden from me. Regardless, for the benefit of the region, I advice Plugo to treat the rest of the region and me as equals, and behave in a respectful manner.

So that's really all I wish for, respect among the governing members of our region. I doubt that is much to ask for. That being said, if the other members of the government think we should still keep this in telegrams, I will be happy to accommodate.

Oh, boy. We've got an embassy in limbo, tension in the Lunar Council, and a top secret mission being exposed before our eyes! Man, I love transparency but I don't want to bust up someone else's mission. I think we should settle this matter very very quietly. Perhaps the Lunar Council can....

Shhhhhhhhhhh.......

Ya know what I mean?

Parakka Northland

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:"top secret" stuff

That being said, if the other members of the government think we should still keep this in telegrams, I will be happy to accommodate.

Yes! Please! We got an order to stuff a very large cat back into a very small bag! It might be too late I'm not sure. If it bites be sure to report to the nearest emergency room for rabbies shots.

Parakka Northland

Rondaland wrote:I dont think they should be forced to resign, the people endorsing them should just unendorse them.

Ok, I will revise 15 to include that as an option. If they refuse the delegacy they must either resign from the WA OR they may get other people to unendorse them. They will have no more than 24 hours to remove themselves from the Delegacy.

Plugo wrote:What is the punishment for someone violating the constiution?

There is no specified punishment. If three members of the Lunar Council declare a certain action unconstitutional then they may also vote to punish the individuals involved - if there were any involved and if it's deemed necessary or fitting to the situation.

Malcholm

Forestavia wrote:Ok, I will revise 15 to include that as an option. If they refuse the delegacy they must either resign from the WA OR they may get other people to unendorse them. They will have no more than 24 hours to remove themselves from the Delegacy.

shouldn't constitution changes only take place after the vote comes back as a no not during the election?

Forestavia

I have to apologies guys i keep forgetting i'm not in charge of the region so i dont have much right to be telling you guys have to behave and what to do during your votes my bad

Post self-deleted by Fiordlandia Ii.

Post by Fiordlandia Ii suppressed by Domos Pinca.

Fiordlandia Ii

If it was something in ANTICOM, wouldn't Forestavia know about it? Being the highest level of clearance and all...

Plugo wrote:im not your bud stranger.

Yes you are, everyone is my buddy :)

Malcholm

Parakka Northland wrote:I have to apologies guys i keep forgetting i'm not in charge of the region so i dont have much right to be telling you guys have to behave and what to do during your votes my bad

All here have the right to voice their opinions, do not be shy. As to your comment, I think changes are fine, there's almost two weeks left before the end of poll so people have time to review it.

Fiordlandia Ii wrote:Yes you are, everyone is my buddy :)

I'm not your buddy, guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuQK6t2Esng

Forestavia, Parakka Northland

[nation=short]rondaland[/nation] and [nation=short]dosh semiw[/nation] thank you for your responses I will update the map shortly.

Dosh Semiw, Oakplumington, Parakka Northland

New Bacon wrote:[nation=short]rondaland[/nation] and [nation=short]dosh semiw[/nation] thank you for your responses I will update the map shortly.

I've submitted a request :)

New Bacon, Oakplumington

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:"The Merchant Federation of Plugo

87 minutes ago

Kid, this embassy is none off your business and is something top secret that happened before you were on the council.

Me Hospitallers and all our party mates voted for you but we did not realize you would be such a nuisance.

This is really my first time communicating with you but i would just like you to stop being such an antagonist, we will all settle it when we can but until then stop provoking it please."

Now this is very rude and disrespectful. [B]I have called time and time for someone to submit a good reason to keep the embassy with Red Harbor, none have[/B]. I grew tired of [nation=short]Plugo[/nation]'s disrespectful treatment, I have done nothing to personally offend him, and all he does is attack me and act disrespectful towards me. [B]What have I done to deserve that?[/B]

Plugo, if you are still harboring a resinetment because of this, https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=19628426 all I did was ask a simple question because I wasn't sure about the rules of the region on it, and yet you chose to be hoestile towards me. And despite that, I sent you a telegram trying to clarify that I got nothing against you:

"Wired To → Plugo

15 days ago

Hey man, I was just asking an honest question. Nothing personal."

You did not bother to reply one way or another, that is really a juvenile way for you to behave that is unbefitting of the region.

And that is why I am requesting a vote among The Lunar Council on the matter of Red Harbor. If there is a "top secret" reason, as you claim, for other councilors to keep the embassy, a reason that they chose to withhold from me, then let it be, regardless, a vote is the only way to deal with your sickening and disrespectful attitude. So try to grow up and get over it, kid.

You asked for hospitallers to explain, he is having a family crisis and i told you he will be on ASAP, but you still refuse to wait for him and listen for his reasoning.

Fiordlandia Ii wrote:If it was something in ANTICOM, wouldn't Forestavia know about it? Being the highest level of clearance and all...

Yes you are, everyone is my buddy :)

At the time of the incident, he wasn't.

Post self-deleted by Rrepaimziaraseh.

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:Plugo and Order of Hospitallers don't seem to be intrested to reply to any of my telegrams or RMB posts and give serious answers to my questions,[B] and I don't know why[/B], but Plugo is happy to send me rude disrespectful messages. He does not seem to be intrested to resolve this matter privately in a civilized manner, which is a shame. Besides, I believe in a transparent government. You Parakka know better than most. You have seen Ecuadorian and Regnum suppress the opinions of each other in The Union. Each trying to voice themselves and hide what the other said, what a mess. No, transparency is key.

That is why I bring this to the public, I wish someone can give me reasonable answers for such uncalled behavior. There might be something I am missing out, maybe there is some "top secret" stuff that has been hidden from me. Regardless, for the benefit of the region, I advice Plugo to treat the rest of the region and me as equals, and behave in a respectful manner.

So that's really all I wish for, respect among the governing members of our region. I doubt that is much to ask for. That being said, if the other members of the government think we should still keep this in telegrams, I will be happy to accommodate.

Well I AM SO SORRY that my uncle is in the hospital and that my cat died so no im not ignoring you, you little selfish prick.

I asked plugo to tell you MANY TIMES that i would not be able to come on nationstates, i have a life and in a family emergency i dont have time to come on and have petty arguments with someone who refuses to listen. I have been here all of my nations life but you make me want to leave here so bad, but you want the council to vote so we are, so far 2 people are for keeping it and 2 people are against keeping it, so we wait for Tumetu to vote.

If we lose the vote i will reveal the documents to oak but not until then, just wait for the proccess to be over before you close it again my god.

And we haven't supressed anything a all but you have NO RIGHT to information that involved a military operation in a organization you have NO AFFILIATION with.

I may just resign from my post and quit nationstates if i keep having to deal with this harassment and stress.

Plugo wrote:You asked for hospitallers to explain, he is having a family crisis and i told you he will be on ASAP, but you still refuse to wait for him and listen for his reasoning.

I am sorry that Hospitallers is having family issues, I sincerely hope that they are resolved quickly; and you did not mention that "he will be on ASAP" whatsoever. I also wonder if you too are having family crisis and cannot respond to my simple enquiries that I have been making for over a week. And do you by any chance expect me to have mental capabilities to read mind and know when others have personal problems? I assure you my friend, if I had such powers, I would use them to discern why anyone would be intrested in keeping an embassy with such a useless region.

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:I am sorry that Hospitallers is having family issues, I sincerely hope that they are resolved quickly; and you did not mention that "he will be on ASAP" whatsoever. I also wonder if you too are having family crisis and cannot respond to my simple enquiries that I have been making for over a week. And do you by any chance expect me to have mental capabilities to read mind and know when others have personal problems? I assure you my friend, if I had such powers, I would use them to discern why anyone would be intrested in keeping an embassy with such a useless region.

You haven't asked me anything, i just got involved in this yesterday.

What are your "enquirers".

Plugo wrote:You haven't asked me anything, i just got involved in this yesterday.

What are your "enquirers".

Considering all the time Rrep whatever withdrew embassy's, he probably ruined the operation.

At least we got to complete some things during the time.

As Lunar Council President, I am formally requesting that all further communication on the matter of the embassy with Red Harbor be done by telegram per Oak's request. This language - calling people "selfish prick" and such - is not appropriate for the message boards which are visible to everyone on the web.

As far as I am concerned, this is a ridiculous thing for us to be fighting over, and a distraction for the more important issue of the constitution.

Actually, perhaps we need to change how we deal with embassies in the constitution. Perhaps there should be a formal process for resolving issues where there is a dispute over closing and opening embassies.

Forestavia, New Bacon, Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:And do you by any chance expect me to have mental capabilities to read mind and know when others have personal problems?

i think thats why he said he would be on when he could.

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate wrote:As Lunar Council President, I am formally requesting that all further communication on the matter of the embassy with Red Harbor be done by telegram per Oak's request. This language - calling people "selfish prick" and such - is not appropriate for the message boards which are visible to everyone on the web.

As far as I am concerned, this is a ridiculous thing for us to be fighting over, and a distraction for the more important issue of the constitution.

Actually, perhaps we need to change how we deal with embassies in the constitution. Perhaps there should be a formal process for resolving issues where there is a dispute over closing and opening embassies.

We will see what the council votes for i guess.

How are you voting?

New Bacon

I think this shoulda been solved a long time ago.

We all wanted to clean some useless embassy's, Rrep thought that red harbor should be on the list but 2 council members said it was important and not to close it.

I think it should have been done right there, not dragged on.

Order Of Hospitallers wrote:Well I AM SO SORRY that my uncle is in the hospital and that my cat died so no im not ignoring you, you little selfish prick.

[B]I asked plugo to tell you MANY TIMES that i would not be able to come on nationstates[/B], i have a life and in a family emergency i dont have time to come on and have petty arguments with someone who refuses to listen. I have been here all of my nations life but you make me want to leave here so bad, but you want the council to vote so we are, so far 2 people are for keeping it and 2 people are against keeping it, so we wait for Tumetu to vote.

If we lose the vote i will reveal the documents to oak but not until then, just wait for the proccess to be over before you close it again my god.

And we haven't supressed anything a all but you have NO RIGHT to information that involved a military operation in a organization you have NO AFFILIATION with.

I may just resign from my post and quit nationstates if i keep having to deal with this harassment and stress.

I am sorry to disappoint you, but Plugo failed to mention any of that to me until literally few minutes ago. Oak said it best, "We have no official military, no Director of Defense, and no official intelligence agency." Ergo I have authority on the embassy of Red Harbor just as much as you do, no less no more. This is how democracy works, and this is what makes this region great.

You are taking this too personally,[B] I am not trying to offend you or Plugo, all I want is for you two to help me understand.[/B] I truly hope your family troubles are resolved.

Plugo wrote:You haven't asked me anything, i just got involved in this yesterday.

What are your "enquirers".

I suppose this sums up all https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=19874574

Give me some good, clear reason beyond "top secret" stuff, and I will probably be just as passionate as you to keep the embassy.

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:I am sorry to disappoint you, but Plugo failed to mention any of that to me until literally few minutes ago. Oak said it best, "We have no official military, no Director of Defense, and no official intelligence agency." Ergo I have authority on the embassy of Red Harbor just as much as you do, no less no more. This is how democracy works, and this is what makes this region great.

You are taking this too personally,[B] I am not trying to offend you or Plugo, all I want is for you two to help me understand.[/B] I truly hope your family troubles are resolved.

I suppose this sums up all https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=19874574

Give me some good, clear reason beyond "top secret" stuff, and I will probably be just as passionate as you to keep the embassy.

Im waiting for tumetu to vote before i reveal anything.

right now me and knights have voted to keep, you and au912 have voted not to keep and tumetu is the tie breaker.

Plugo wrote:Im waiting for tumetu to vote before i reveal anything.

right now me and knights have voted to keep, you and au912 have voted not to keep and tumetu is the tie breaker.

Alright then, but do you at least understand that none of this is personal, and that I wish we can all be pals, and I simply want to understand things? Is that clear? Because I very much would like to stress that. I do not wish to offend anyone, I'm just not a fan of secrecy and I want to understand what goes on.

Malcholm, Oakplumington

Parakka Northland wrote:I've submitted a request :)

Thanks

Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Nice to see things have calmed down a bit.... would Jerry Springer help at all lol im sure we can find someone to play the big assed bouncer on stage. (i am being sarcastic btw) but seriously guys i understand why tempers are hot but if your going to insult someone do it in a telegram or forum or whatever form of communication you guys as a council use, not all over the RMB where we all "have to read it" in theory.

That being said guys if your council is meant to be made of equals then no information should be withheld by one council member from another, otherwise your going to have further issues down the line.

Malcholm, Oakplumington

I vote to keep theembassy.

Oakplumington

New Bacon wrote:Thanks

By withdrawing the embassy you basically ruined a great op that we took down many commies with.

You should have waited for the proccess to be over before withdrawing.

New Bacon

Tumetu-Iin Noyan wrote:By withdrawing the embassy you basically ruined a great op that we took down many commies with.

You should have waited for the proccess to be over before withdrawing.

I think you quoted the wrong person

New Bacon wrote:I think you quoted the wrong person

No i meant you.

I know you want to be informed on the situation and why, but you had no patience, and considering how many times you withdrew embassy's i wouldn't want to reveal anything either, especially since their is a good chance the op is ruined now.

I mean you withdrew them like over 5 times, they will probably notice now.

Map has been updated. Check it out! [nation=short]rondaland[/nation], [nation=short]parakka northland[/nation] you both have large parts of South America except one small island called Trinidad and Tobago via (Goldfair) New Bacon Territory. [nation=short]dosh semiw[/nation] you have all of indochina/Japan and you border [nation=short]forestavia[/nation]. If there be any changes please let me know. Your national capitals are also listed.

Dosh Semiw, Order Of Hospitallers, Parakka Northland

Tumetu-Iin Noyan wrote:No i meant you.

I know you want to be informed on the situation and why, but you had no patience, and considering how many times you withdrew embassy's i wouldn't want to reveal anything either, especially since their is a good chance the op is ruined now.

I mean you withdrew them like over 5 times, they will probably notice now.

But I'm New Bacon, can't you tell?

Order Of Hospitallers

Tumetu-Iin Noyan wrote:No i meant you.

I know you want to be informed on the situation and why, but you had no patience, and considering how many times you withdrew embassy's i wouldn't want to reveal anything either, especially since their is a good chance the op is ruined now.

I mean you withdrew them like over 5 times, they will probably notice now.

You were probably referring to [nation=short]rrepaimziaraseh[/nation]

Order Of Hospitallers

Tumetu-Iin Noyan wrote:No i meant you.

I know you want to be informed on the situation and why, but you had no patience, and considering how many times you withdrew embassy's i wouldn't want to reveal anything either, especially since their is a good chance the op is ruined now.

I mean you withdrew them like over 5 times, they will probably notice now.

Plus I have nothing to do with the red harbor embassy

New Bacon wrote:Map has been updated. Check it out! [nation=short]rondaland[/nation], [nation=short]parakka northland[/nation] you both have large parts of South America except one small island called Trinidad and Tobago via (Goldfair) New Bacon Territory. [nation=short]dosh semiw[/nation] you have all of indochina/Japan and you border [nation=short]forestavia[/nation]. If there be any changes please let me know. Your national capitals are also listed.

Could you place me capital in Tokyo's spot please? Thanks Again.

New Bacon

Dosh Semiw wrote:Could you place me capital in Tokyo's spot please? Thanks Again.

Sure thing

Dosh Semiw

Tumetu-Iin Noyan wrote:No i meant you.

No you don't mean him, you mean me.

Tumetu-Iin Noyan wrote:By withdrawing the embassy you basically ruined a great op that we took down many commies with.

You should have waited for the proccess to be over before withdrawing.

Then keep it we will, and I respect that decision. Though I cannot take credit for anything being ruined, on the account that all have failed to notify me with an adequate reason.

I asked this first here https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=19706075 And if any one of you 3 gave me a resonable answer then, all of this could have been avoided. Hospitallers would be excused on the counts of his problems, but why the other two with withhold it is beyond me. The only reason that I got was from Plugo, and he did that only yesterday with his vague "top secret" telegram which he delivered in the most condescending manner; that's all I got.

We simply cannot afford to act and withhold reasons from each other, this kind of secrecy creates mistrust which hurts the region, far more than the failure of whatever private "op" you had.

New Bacon wrote:But I'm New Bacon, can't you tell?

We are all one with the great Spongebob my friends, may he bless us.

Dosh Semiw

All in all, I say the matter is closed now. The embassy will be kept, regardless of what the unknow "top secret" reasons are.

New Bacon

[nation=short]dosh semiw[/nation] your capital is fixed.

Dosh Semiw, Order Of Hospitallers

That embassy situation has left a sour taste in my mouth, their is little trust between some of the council members and one of them made a huge deal over nothing.

Goodluck with the region.

Kladsko wrote:That embassy situation has left a sour taste in my mouth, their is little trust between some of the council members and one of them made a huge deal over nothing.

Goodluck with the region.

Well I'm still glad its Sorted out.

Good Luck to you also.

New Bacon

Kladsko wrote:That embassy situation has left a sour taste in my mouth, their is little trust between some of the council members and one of them made a huge deal over nothing.

Goodluck with the region.

Yea this region has changed a lot since i first went here, the council members never argued before and their was a mutal respect and understanding.

Now their is no respect and us new people's civil liberties are being curbed.

Im out of here

New Bacon

Fascism Vector wrote:Yea this region has changed a lot since i first went here, the council members never argued before and their was a mutal respect and understanding.

Now their is no respect and us new people's civil liberties are being curbed.

Im out of here

Well, I wasn't aware asking questions constitutes curbing liberties, but whatever you say buddy. As Dosh Semiw said, good luck to you and Kladsko.

New Bacon

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:Well, I wasn't aware asking questions constitutes curbing liberties, but whatever you say buddy. As Dosh Semiw said, good luck to you and Kladsko.

I didnt even sy you lmfao

New Bacon

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:Well, I wasn't aware asking questions constitutes curbing liberties, but whatever you say buddy. As Dosh Semiw said, good luck to you and Kladsko.

Thats not what i meant, but since your on that topic i mean i should be able to go back to my home region without some new guy immediately interrogating me as if i am some spy or criminal.

Fascism Vector wrote:Thats not what i meant, but since your on that topic i mean i should be able to go back to my home region without some new guy immediately interrogating me as if i am some spy or criminal.

I think part of the problem was the fact we are working on a constitution and are in a period of heightened security. There was a concern people would try to come in and try to mess with the constitutional convention, or bring in puppets. Hopefully things will calm back down.

But to be honest, I must admit that my trust in my fellow regionmates has declined in recent days because some of us have been keeping secrets from each other and others allowed their concerns to become a witch hunt. The heated rhetoric has also soured my sense of belonging in this region.

However, I am still optimistic things can improve.

Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Fascism Vector wrote:I didnt even sy you lmfao

Indeed? When I first sought office, my first priority is to ensure that all people in our region have the right to voice themselves, and their rights are respected, regardless of whether or not I agree with them. So if you felt you have your rights curbed, and it wasn't by me just asking questions, then please know I do not stand for that. Tell me where you think your liberties have been infringed upon, and I will do my best to fix that.

And if you are referring to this https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=19816916 then again, it was just a question. I had no idea who you are (I'm the new guy in town) all I saw was someone walking in with the name of an infamous raider on them. So I asked. No, if I was curbing liberties, I would have ejected you without asking, but that's the opposite of who I am. I asked, Oak answered https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=19822134 and all was perfect in my book.

Super simple, but again, if you think there are other issues that have threatened your rights here, please share them with me and I would my best to help you.

Malcholm

On another note, this is akin to crime https://www.nationstates.net/page=blank?lookup_newspaper=4164 Only one article during all this time? Shame on us all. We must produce something after the constitution's vote, to commemorate the matter.

Malcholm

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:On another note, this is akin to crime https://www.nationstates.net/page=blank?lookup_newspaper=4164 Only one article during all this time? Shame on us all. We must produce something after the constitution's vote, to commemorate the matter.

Make something good that is partisan and i will put it in the paper.

Plugo wrote:Make something good that is partisan and i will put it in the paper.

*bi partisan, neutral*

Lunar council members can still hold their position and operate outside the region, ill be back.

Cant deal with this nonsence anymore.

I'm not resigning or anything.

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

Plugo wrote:Make something good that is partisan and i will put it in the paper.

Well is the lack of articles because they all get rejected or is it because no one is submitting? Honestly not sure which is the worse, probably the latter; inactivity is the worst.

Also if I write something it would be about the constitution and not the embassy thing so you don't have to worry about that. How many editors do we have BTW?

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

Plugo wrote:Make something good that is partisan and i will put it in the paper.

And is the paper just real regional news or is RP regional news also allowed.

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:Well is the lack of articles because they all get rejected or is it because no one is submitting? Honestly not sure which is the worse, probably the latter; inactivity is the worst.

Also if I write something it would be about the constitution and not the embassy thing so you don't have to worry about that. How many editors do we have BTW?

No one has submitted anything since my one article.

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:And is the paper just real regional news or is RP regional news also allowed.

Basicly events / news that happen in the region.

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

This doesn't really feel like home, ill be back once this constitution thing blows off.

Though i doubt i will be re elected to my seat since this red harbor incident occured.

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

Order Of Hospitallers wrote:No one has submitted anything since my one article.

Basicly events / news that happen in the region.

That's no good. And yeah I personally prefer the newspaper to be non-RP, unless it's RP that delivers the real events of the region.

Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:That's no good. And yeah I personally prefer the newspaper to be non-RP, unless it's RP that delivers the real events of the region.

Originally their were more, but they were under harsh political supression, so i had to rush a coup for the delegacy to reset the newspaper.

Order Of Hospitallers wrote:This doesn't really feel like home, ill be back once this constitution thing blows off.

Though i doubt i will be re elected to my seat since this red harbor incident occured.

Hopefully, we'll all be in a better mood by then, which could help your chances.

Order Of Hospitallers wrote:No one has submitted anything since my one article.

Basicly events / news that happen in the region.

Well that's disappointing. Maybe I'll try to submit something. But right now I don't feel like it, so it'll probably be another week or two.

New Bacon, Malcholm

We should make a factbook or a link for a newspaper

Dosh Semiw, New Bacon, Oakplumington, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

Order Of Hospitallers wrote:This doesn't really feel like home, ill be back once this constitution thing blows off.

Though i doubt i will be re elected to my seat since this red harbor incident occured.

BTW I may post something in the newspaper later.

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Fezchia

What are we gonna do about the two lunar council members left? Are we gonna hold emergency elections or are they gonna keep their seats?

Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

Fezchia wrote:What are we gonna do about the two lunar council members left? Are we gonna hold emergency elections or are they gonna keep their seats?

It's my understanding that members of the Lunar Council are not required to remain in the region. Perhaps they should be, but I think that would require a constitutional amendment.

Malcholm, Oakplumington, Fezchia

Oh my God. We really are chopping each other's head off.... O_O

I'm going to the back up region where it's always a fun time! I'm going to tell corny jokes over there tomorrow, I think.

Serious business first:

[nation=short]Order of Hospitallers[/nation], take it easy during this time of stress in your life. I will be praying for your Uncle. I have also lost a cat within the last year. It is very hard to lose them. Telegram me anytime.

Important Business:

In regard to our relationships to each other as players, we shouldn't let things escalate this much. It isn't healthy. It just isn't. This is a game. I was hoping after sending the Lunar Council a telegram earlier today I wouldn't have to see the RMB like this. Come on now, our region doesn't need bad publicity. We're here to have a good time. Of course this is a game about politics and the Lunar Council will not always be in agreement. That's why I made sure there were an odd number of nations on it so that any time there was disagreement among council members, the Lunar Council could still have a position as a body. And today the Council has voted on a position. In a way it's a good thing to have disagreement on among the councilors. It shows how much you care about this region. And that's kinda cool. Just don't get caught up in it so much.

I'm going to read my telegrams now.

Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Parakka Northland

Fiordlandia Ii wrote:If it was something in ANTICOM, wouldn't Forestavia know about it? Being the highest level of clearance and all...

I'd say the op probably doesn't involve ANTICOM, otherwise the "dynamic trio" of Pyrosky, Oak, and Borduriaa would probably need to hold a pretty serious meeting.

Oakplumington

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate wrote:It's my understanding that members of the Lunar Council are not required to remain in the region. Perhaps they should be, but I think that would require a constitutional amendment.

Aye. I think the specific nations residing on the Council should have to stay in the region, and y'know, interact with the region on at least a semi-regular basis. All of us have at least one puppet, what's wrong with using a different puppet in a different region? When I was on the council, I wasn't switching between my home region and this one with [nation=short]malcholm[/nation]; in fact, I even brought a puppet from my home region over for a bit of fun.

Oakplumington, Parakka Northland, Fezchia

Fezchia wrote:What are we gonna do about the two lunar council members left? Are we gonna hold emergency elections or are they gonna keep their seats?

I don't think we should be in a rush to replace them, just yet anyway. Let's see what happens.

New Bacon, Malcholm, Fezchia

Obviously we are going to postpone our constitutional vote for two reasons.

- We have a lot of alterations and changes to make first (and everybody seems to be contributing which is great). Like Parakka said earlier it would be cleaner to just vote on something instead of revising it along the way.

- The ratification requires three votes from the council and like Fezchia said we only have two and I am not going to keep giving out that password. We will try again very soon when we are ready. I am sorry we rushed into this process. I want to assure the region that we are very very close though. I think we will have an official constitution within six weeks. It will be a foundation set in the principles of freedom and liberty as well as a balanced government with checks on it.

(By the way, region mates, your government is working. The disagreement earlier today was resolved when the Lunar Council took the historic step to take a position as a government body. Every Lunar Councillor voted and a simple majority was achieved. No one can overrule the Council unless Sentagon passes and the Delegate approves a law that says otherwise.)

For now, we will be at ease as a region. The Proposed Constitution will continue to function as our working constitution for now. And after we tweak some stuff, it will become the official law of the land.

New Bacon, Malcholm, Parakka Northland, Fezchia

Fezchia wrote:We should make a factbook or a link for a newspaper

Is that something you would like to work on? I say go for it. We could use a newspaper. Although, after everything that's happened recently I'd be a little afraid to read it. Ignorance is bliss, you know. ;)

Dosh Semiw, New Bacon, Malcholm, Parakka Northland, Fezchia

A new link at the Info Center will take you to the Decisions/Rulings made by the Lunar Council.

New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Fezchia

Ok, I'm going to go to bed for the night. I think our region might be going through some growing pains but we're going to be better off for it. Every journey will see a few bumps in the road.

Dosh Semiw, New Bacon, Rrepaimziaraseh, Malcholm, Fezchia

Oakplumington wrote:Is that something you would like to work on? I say go for it. We could use a newspaper. Although, after everything that's happened recently I'd be a little afraid to read it. Ignorance is bliss, you know. ;)

Yeah I guess I can make one but I'll try to keep the ignorant stuff out of there as much as possible due to the fact that more than the MC will read it (Hopefully)

New Bacon, Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Oakplumington wrote:Is that something you would like to work on? I say go for it. We could use a newspaper. Although, after everything that's happened recently I'd be a little afraid to read it. Ignorance is bliss, you know. ;)

Fezchia wrote:Yeah I guess I can make one but I'll try to keep the ignorant stuff out of there as much as possible due to the fact that more than the MC will read it (Hopefully)

We have multiple regions under the Solar Alliance region all with a newspaper. Though we use it most for RP and we use Sasc for political/offical stuff. It's nice to keep the two things separate at times. Just an idea as you guys have multiple regions also

New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

What I'm executive delegate again?! What happened, [nation=short]oakplumington[/nation]?

Malcholm, Parakka Northland

YAY I'M HERE!!!

Hey does anyone by any chance want to help out the region Ireland? They desperately need help.

Malcholm wrote:the "dynamic trio" of Pyrosky, Oak, and Borduriaa

*Holy Trio

Malcholm

New Bacon wrote:What I'm executive delegate again?! What happened, [nation=short]oakplumington[/nation]?

The Constitution vote is being put off until we get the new changes added to the Constitution. I think Oak said somewhere that the next vote would be in about 6 weeks, but we could probably get it going a bit faster than that.

New Bacon, Oakplumington, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Parakka Northland

Malcholm wrote:I think Oak said somewhere that the next vote would be in about 6 weeks, but we could probably get it going a bit faster than that.

From the looks of the WFB, it'll probably be on July 22 :)

New Bacon, Oakplumington, Parakka Northland, Fezchia

Roleplay**

Bacon Central News

Constitution has ceased operations to pass. The New Bacon Provinces have halted operations on passing the ratification vote. The 45% margin is not met. Also Secretary of Education Forgetsalot will be taking New Bacon College and high school students on a trip to the New Bacon Territory of Greater Oceania(RP Austrailia) to see the Great Barrier Reef and learn about marine science.

I'm Jeff Wayne,

Bacon Central News

Dosh Semiw, Oakplumington

I am currently working on writing our regional recruitment telegram, and I need your help folks. So tell me y'all, what do you personally like the most about The Mystical Council? And why do you think The Mystical Council is mystical?

Dosh Semiw, New Bacon, Malcholm, Oakplumington, Fezchia

[spoiler=Amendment 6]Amendment 6. Every nation, including government leaders, shall have the right to move about as they wish from region to region. It is not the business of regional law or this constitution to force any nation to reside in the region. It is, however, the concern of the voters who will have the final say on election day.

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New Bacon wrote:What I'm executive delegate again?! What happened, [nation=short]oakplumington[/nation]?

Sh** hit the fan.

Dosh Semiw, New Bacon, Malcholm

Oakplumington wrote:Sh** hit the fan.

Okay kek.

Dosh Semiw, Malcholm

New Bacon wrote:Roleplay**

Bacon Central News

Constitution has ceased operations to pass. The New Bacon Provinces have halted operations on passing the ratification vote. The 45% margin is not met. Also Secretary of Education Forgetsalot will be taking New Bacon College and high school students on a trip to the New Bacon Territory of Greater Oceania(RP Austrailia) to see the Great Barrier Reef and learn about marine science.

I'm Jeff Wayne,

Bacon Central News

RP:

Forgetsalot stood at the front of the ship, his face showing every ounce of wisdom he could muster.

"Well, kids this 'ere reef was once a ferocious sea monster. As is oblivious to anyone, what we is lookin' at 'ere is th' last reef monster o' th' sea. It has been fossiled with time. But students, it still is teaming with life long after th' death o' th' sea monsters. This is what th' marine biologistics say bouts this piece a ocean. Ya can't argue with th' facts o' science!"

New Bacon, Malcholm

Rondaland wrote:I dont think they should be forced to resign, the people endorsing them should just unendorse them.

What do you think of this?

[spoiler=section 15]15.

A council member may not serve as Delegate. If a nation holding a council seat is elected to the Delegacy, then they must do one of three things:

a. They may resign from the Lunar Council and accept the office of the Delegacy and all responsibilities that come with it.

OR

b. They may refuse the office of Delegate and must immediately resign from the WA and/or get other nations to unendorse them.

If the Lunar Councillor chooses option a, then they will switch places with the former Delegate and permanently lose their seat on the council. The only way for them to return to the Lunar Council is to either be elected again during a future full moon or switch places with another Lunar Councillor who is elected to the Delegacy and who also chooses option a.

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Parakka Northland

With the introduction of [spoiler=Amendment 5]Amendment 5. Any nation who wishes to cast a vote in a poll must be present in the main region, unless otherwise specified by the pollster.[/spoiler] I am proposing that we delete [spoiler=Section 18a]18a. Nations who have been banned from the region will lose their voting rights until the ban is lifted.[/spoiler]

After all, it is impossible to vote if one is not in the region.

Parakka Northland

I am revising section 13 from [spoiler=this]13. There shall be a Lunar Council of at least five seats elected from within the region.[/spoiler] to [spoiler=this]13. There shall be a Lunar Council of five seats elected from within the region.[/spoiler]

The "at least" was a reference to another section specifying the process to add more seats to the Lunar Council from the old draft. If we ever feel that we need more members on the Lunar Council we can just do that with a constitutional amendment down the road. It's easier.

Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

Oakplumington wrote:I am revising section 13 from [spoiler=this]13. There shall be a Lunar Council of at least five seats elected from within the region.[/spoiler] to [spoiler=this]13. There shall be a Lunar Council of five seats elected from within the region.[/spoiler]

The "at least" was a reference to another section specifying the process to add more seats to the Lunar Council from the old draft. If we ever feel that we need more members on the Lunar Council we can just do that with a constitutional amendment down the road. It's easier.

*...consisting of five seats...

Malcholm

Fiordlandia Ii wrote:YAY I'M HERE!!!

Hey does anyone by any chance want to help out the region Ireland? They desperately need help.

*Holy Trio

I'm going to check with Anticom and ORCA first to make sure they don't need help somewhere. If all is clear, I will help you in Ireland.

New Bacon, Malcholm, Fiordlandia Ii

Oakplumington wrote:What do you think of this?

15. A council member may not serve as Delegate. If a nation holding a council seat is elected to the Delegacy, then they must do one of three things:

a. They may resign from the Lunar Council and accept the office of the Delegacy and all responsibilities that come with it.

OR

b. They may refuse the office of Delegate and must immediately resign from the WA and/or get other nations to unendorse them.

If the Lunar Councillor chooses option a, then they will switch places with the former Delegate and permanently lose their seat on the council. The only way for them to return to the Lunar Council is to either be elected again during a future full moon or switch places with another Lunar Councillor who is elected to the Delegacy and who also chooses option a.

What's the third option?

New Bacon, Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Oakplumington wrote:[spoiler=Amendment 6]Amendment 6. Every nation, including government leaders, shall have the right to move about as they wish from region to region. It is not the business of regional law or this constitution to force any nation to reside in the region. It is, however, the concern of the voters who will have the final say on election day.

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I think that needs to be amended again to say that if you hold a postion inside the mystic council then you must reside within the region.

New Bacon, Rrepaimziaraseh, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

[B]Role Play

Our nation has been given authorisation from the Empire to class the city of Belcrest as Parakka Northland capita. The Governor has said that this is a monumental stage in the colony history.

back in the Empire, news of this development have recieved positive feedback from the population in general.

New Bacon, Malcholm

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:I am currently working on writing our regional recruitment telegram, and I need your help folks. So tell me y'all, what do you personally like the most about The Mystical Council? And why do you think The Mystical Council is mystical?

I like the fact that we have this set up as a legit government body with its own Constitution (Not official yet obviously) and are own democratic elections every full moon.

Parakka Northland

Post self-deleted by Western Forestavia.

Parakka Northland wrote:I think that needs to be amended again to say that if you hold a postion inside the mystic council then you must reside within the region.

Alright, it looks like I'm out voted on this issue. I will revise Amendment 6 shortly. I'm really happy we have a lot of participation with this project.

Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Amendment 7. Draft*

Once per year during the first week of April, The Mystical Council will hold an April Fool's Day Festival (also known as the Purge), freeing itself temporarily from the formalities and tedious restrictions of constitutional and regional law. Additional purges may be held with the approval of two branches of government.

Dosh Semiw, Malcholm

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate wrote:What's the third option?

Oh, yeah. That was one of those pesky little typos. I've changed it to two options. Good eye, AU912!

Malcholm

Western Forestavia wrote:Alright, it looks like I'm out voted on this issue. I will revise Amendment 6 shortly. I'm really happy we have a lot of participation with this project.

Another thought on this: how would a nation's people feel if their leader was constantly and consistently out of office? This is a pretty critical time for our region, and we need out officers to be here, at home, helping to foster our identity and policy. I feel like, at the very least, our elected officials should maintain a presence in the region. There's nothing wrong with having lots of puppets :)

Forestavia, Dosh Semiw, Rrepaimziaraseh, Parakka Northland

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