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Region: The Mystical Council
i still would like a 4 month term limit :p
Malcholm
I'm neutral on it. 3 or 4 is good. Either way.
Alistia, Malcholm
I would say 3 is better than 4. Means we have an election every quarter :)
New Bacon, Malcholm
:P
okay.
we will have an election before the end of the year then.
how are we going to do the polls though?
Malcholm
We have two regions, so two ministers at the time, and a poll pror to that with a list of eligibility positions and people vote to say what they want to do
Civilisunio
Exactly what I would have said.:)
Parakka Northland
I support 4, so we spend less time on the goverment and more time on the region itself.
Alistia, Malcholm
I say 3 so we have one every quarter like you said
Alistia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland
Transformation complete.
Malcholm, Republic Of Greater Cuba
I guess you can join Ussd now! :)
Malcholm, Lampar
Thanks for the offer, but USSD doesn't reside with the same...ideals as myself.
Forestavia, Malcholm
your Lampar has evolved
Forestavia, Malcholm, Lampar, Civilisunio
Glad to hear that it has paid off.
Republic Of Greater Cuba
More like devolved.
Republic Of Greater Cuba
Very impolite.
Malcholm, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Civilisunio
and rude
Lampar
Could be taken as such. But I didn't mean it such. I don't particularly like communism. I am more right wing conservative centrist.
Well good for you.
Communism has always been my main ideology.
New Bacon, Civilisunio
The Lunar Council is ready to release the results of the Lampar case.
see here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=719483
Malcholm, Parakka Northland
Perfect...
Republic Of Greater Cuba
?
Alistia, Malcholm
I was actually talking of enforcing term limit. It's my opinion. After a term of say six months the WA delegate will be obligated to resign from the WA and he/she can then rejoin. But I know it will be difficult and much depends on the delegate's wish to resign.
Alistia, Parakka Northland
Did [nation=short]caelapes[/nation] teach you? Did it Cost 9.99$?
Alistia, Malcholm, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Parakka Northland
Communism in the long goal itself wants to get rid of currency
Lampar
It is very utopian at the end of the day, and acheving it would have to allow hundreds of tons of variables, economic conflicts, social and political views and upmost communication to make sure that it's goal succends, but it does make sense
No, when you say "perfect" you're supposed to rub your hands together while chuckling evilly and have lightning flash behind you.
Alistia, New Bacon, Malcholm, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Parakka Northland
Only a true fleeter would say such a thing...
Alistia, New Bacon, Malcholm, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Parakka Northland
Illuminati confirmed! ;)
So what's next for the Lampar?
Alistia, New Bacon, Malcholm, Parakka Northland
Post by Forestavia suppressed by Alistia.
If anyone needs a ride to the polls I hear there's still a bit of space left on the Trump Train!
Malcholm
I don't know yet.
So there is commies but you all get so frightened by even the idea of having embassies with fascists...
Alistia, Lampar, Parakka Northland
Because us commies have better....manners.
Malcholm
Oh yes Stalin,Mao Zedong,The Kims and Pol Pot were known for their manners...
Alistia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland
Roleplay
Emperor Troublesolver arranged to meet a [nation=short]Viva Italia[/nation] news reporter. He had a mild cough that morning. The morning had been a barrage of phone calls dealing with Forestavia's transition from theocratic republic to empire. A new date was set to restart the negotiations with the various bodies of government. It was about time. He cleared his desk off and had the cook prepare a table with coffee, tea, cookies, shrimp, wine, rum, whiskey, cheese, and crackers.
Alistia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland, Viva Italia
*reporter walks in*
Forestavia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland
Shall we begin?
Malcholm, Parakka Northland
I'm sure there are fascist spies in our region, too.
Malcholm, Parakka Northland
And Adolf Hitler was a real pleasure as well...
Malcholm, Parakka Northland
He was Nazi.There is a difference.Fascists support dictatorships while nazis support rascist dictatorships.
Alistia, Malcholm, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Parakka Northland
Sure, but we're going to have to do this in pieces because I have some stuff to do. (I was actually getting ready to log off.) I'm going to try to get back on tonight or early this evening but we'll see.
Alistia, Malcholm, Civilisunio, Parakka Northland
Fascism is government that makes most of the decisions for the people, and they have no say about it. Some strengths of fascism are that it makes people (or certain people) proud and safe, however the process of doing it is not the best. National Socialism was made after the first world war, or maybe even before in the German Empire as anti semitism, but only in 1919 did it actually have somewhat of a structure. Both were formed in response to communism.
Malcholm
We don't just eject people because of what they believe or where they are from :P.
If we did that you, lampar and others would be gone.
*Cringes at the historical inaccuracy of that statement*
That can only be decided by the courts.
Malcholm, Parakka Northland
I could care less, atleast I didn't say "Fascists support dictatorships while nazis support rascist dictatorships."
I also belived that many things are biased in life, so your meaning could be different from mine anyway
Oak, 🤣 nice.
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In all seriousness, it's already 3PM(EST)! I trust that those of you who can vote in the election have already, seeing as we all play a game of simulated politics.
If not, go fulfill your civic duty! It doesn't matter if you vote for the 'wrong person' or lament the lines. Do some research and make your best guess at who you think should be the next POTUS. It's all you can do. You have a responsibility as an American citizen to help maintain the republic. Your vote matters.
Forestavia, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Parakka Northland
Thats kinda true, but very watered down.
Malcholm
I for one refuse to vote.
Alistia, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Civilisunio
Could you go to the polls and select or write in "none of the above" as a protest?
Forestavia, Alistia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland
Nah I don't care. I'm think I'm gonna go feed ducks instead.
Alistia, Malcholm, Civilisunio
Lord mugwop has spoken.
Forestavia, Alistia, Malcholm
Go back to Canada ya hippie 😛
Alistia
Well the fact is that I live in Ireland, but not near Dublin, so going to the US embassy to vote is just not worth it.
Forestavia, Alistia, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Parakka Northland
you can go have a play date with [nation=short]viva_italia[/nation] irl.
Forestavia, Parakka Northland
Oh really.I didn't know that.
Alistia, Malcholm, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Parakka Northland
I think we just took our country back from the establishment and from polarizing political ideology... At least for a little while anyway.
Malcholm
Roleplay
The reporter was led into the building and upstairs by security. The Emperor sat behind a desk at a computer.
"Come in! Feel free to grab something to drink." He gestured toward the table.
Alistia, Malcholm
It's not over yet, I just hope if he wins then the American people know what they have voted for and it doesn't cause global issues
Malcholm
Oh yeah, this is gonnnna so good. I'm just gonna sit here and watch America set itself on fire.
Alistia, Malcholm
Associated Press just jumped Trump past 270
http://interactives.ap.org/2016/general-election/?SITE=APQA
218-276
Usa is showing that it is not what it stands for. I don't want any American to lecture anyone about climate change. They shouldn't lecture us on equality. I always wanted to be an us permanent resident. It was my dream. Well I am happy that I am not.
Alistia, Republic Of Greater Cuba
Fox and NBC are reporting that Hillary just phoned Trump to concede.
Viva Italia
He has reached 288 already.He will almost get what Obama got.
Malcholm
I'm seeing 274 (FOX) to 278 (NBC) rn; 303 when Michigan and Arizona finish, if they stay red.
I'm honestly blown away.
Parakka Northland, Viva Italia
Yes. I am glad trump won. I also have a word real quick. Those of you that think 1 president can mess up 2 centuries of strong foundation you do not know what your talking about.:)
God Bless America!
Kill me
Alistia, Malcholm, Civilisunio
We have our opinions.😏
Malcholm
At least charlie crist won my congress seat, only reason why i aint gonna kms.
Hillary actually got more of the popular vote btw, so only reason why trump won is the rigged and corrupt electoral college
Malcholm, Civilisunio, Viva Italia
Nope. Trump won all votes.
No.
Trump: 59,027,971
Hillary: 59,163,675
2nd election rigged against democrats.
Tumetu-Iin Noyan, Civilisunio, Parakka Northland, Viva Italia
Excuse me. Yes that is true. Not the rigging I think the democrats rigged. They are so corrupt.
in 2000 al gore lost to bush, al gore got the popular vote.
now in 2016 trump won, hillary got the popular vote.
if elections where based on votes, hillary and gore would have one.
but we have the electoral college that votes for us!
Why would they rig it against theirselfs?
Alistia, Malcholm, Republic Of Greater Cuba
Either he is saying the democrats rigged the republicans, or the democrats were for some reason so factionalized they rigged themselves
Alistia, Malcholm, Viva Italia
Knowing the democrats it wouldn't be surprising.Donald Trump is an egomaniacal,narccistic,sexit,homophobic,bigoted rascist who managed to convince the uneducated that he can do anything...
Alistia, Malcholm, Civilisunio
It appears that tens of thousands of Americans have opted to vote for Harambe in the elections.
What a truly idiotic population.
Americans tell themselves that their government and media is corrupt, that these corruption machines work around the clock to manipulate the poor, poor Americans public, and that's why it's all out of their hands. How pathetic. No one actually takes responsibility. No one acknowledges the fact that corruption and propaganda only works because of the widespread ignorance, stupidity, and apathy.
Had the American public been more engaged, more educated, had they taken an hour out of their lives to stop and think, to put aside their preconceived notions and examine what there is to know... then none of this would have happened, and neither Clinton nor Trump would have been anywhere near main party candidates.
Americans have made their bed, now they should sleep in it.
Alistia, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Viva Italia
Post by Civilisunio suppressed by New Bacon.
Thats kind of insulting. Please it would mean alot of we stopped talking about our new president.
Post by Viva Italia suppressed by New Bacon.
Our you kidding me!This is a man who has said he could do things to women because he is a star,wants to ban people from the largest religion in the world from entering the usa and is a complete and utter git and you call me mean.And we shouldn't stop talking about the man who will literally lead the free world.
Alistia, Malcholm
the free world will have to be somewhere else now.
He isn't president until january 20th.
and trump said plenty of things about obama who is the president.
Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Civilisunio, Viva Italia
The EU will have to take the mantle and god knows that they aren't very stable
Alistia, Republic Of Greater Cuba
Emphasis on new. He is still the [I]new[/I] president.
Man I he all this negativity. I also hate people telling me that I am 'uneducated' for having an opinion that differs from theirs or messing up when I say something. Does everybody just have to hate civ and what he says?
Alistia, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Parakka Northland
Not all of trumps supporters are non college degree makes but without that group he would have made it out of the primaries.
Alistia
He would have not made it out of the primaries.
Alistia, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
so the basic rights of nations passed with flying colors!
Forestavia, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Civilisunio, Parakka Northland
Rip
is your proposed freedom of information act finished? its up to be voted on, i need to see the dispatch on it
Forestavia, Malcholm, Civilisunio, Parakka Northland
Yep. I will post the link in a second.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=711584
Forestavia
The first two points make sense, and even part of the third point. However, can you provide a little more detail in regards to this "in game we can not allow threats to arise especially if they are large and very damaging" within your proposal? As if in a Role Play context i threaten to bomb the hell out of your nation for example then technically ive violated the guidelines, if that makes sense?
Alistia, Malcholm
i think large petty arguments should be added to 1.
i dont know what you mean by suppression in 2.
explain the 'strike levels'
Malcholm, Parakka Northland
Petty arguements will need defining as what's petty to one person might not be to anouther
Alistia, Malcholm
a long drawn out argument over a minor issue.
Malcholm, Civilisunio, Parakka Northland
i thought the freedom of information act was going to be about hidden govt documents or something, not just post suppression....
Malcholm, Civilisunio, Viva Italia
There is a thing about that already I am sure.
This is the New act:
http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=711584
No argument amendment was put in. Arguments will be suppressed though if they include the guidelines.
Malcholm
Surprisingly, no. Transparency has just been expected of government officials with no binds of law.l
Alistia, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Civilisunio, Parakka Northland
I support further transparency laws and civilisunios proposal.
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Parakka Northland
Define this: "Arguments that reach a high enough level are prohibited (They Include the following guidelines)"
or is it defined by the points following it?
For example, consider this:
"What the hell you are talking about? You are so ignorant, stupid, and useless. You are a disgrace of a human being and wasting Earth's oxygen"
This sentence contains no excessive profanity with words such as "fck" "cnt" "sh!t" "asshole" "bastrd" "whor" "fagit".... and so forth (things that the moderators would suppress). It also does not references a person's sexuality, or make any actual threats to them.
Would this speech allowed to be unsuppressed?
If yes, please be more specific about it in the dispatch. If no, please be more specific about that as well in the dispatch.
In my personal opinion, I think it's border line. When the issue between two parties reach such levels as the example above for the first time, I don't think there should be any suppressions. However a mediator must be introduced in between. Following the introduction of a mediator, if things continue as is, then suppression may be used.
Alistia, Malcholm, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Civilisunio
That is bar. That's a person attack which is in the dispatch.
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Mugwop
Anyone who wants to ask for change on the act can telegram me please!:)
Republic Of Greater Cuba
Are you saying that the example I used is something Barishmacht said? While there are some relatable elements I guess, I actually just made that one myself.
Also the dispatch doesn't mention anything explicitly about "a person attack", which in truth any argument can be considered a personal attack. The dispatch however does mention threats, but my example doesn't use one.
So in your opinion, do you think explicit personal attacks, that still don't fit points 2,3,4 of article 1, are ground for suppression? I kind of think so, and if you do, then please outline it in the dispatch as well under an Ad hominem point.
Alistia, Malcholm, Civilisunio
No. I meant bar would handle all the punishments and stuff and be the mediator.
I already said those were guidelines and if you used them you would get the punishments which were in article 2 which the 1st one was supression.
Alistia
No but my question is that my example:
"What the hell you are talking about? You are so ignorant, stupid, and useless. You are a disgrace of a human being and wasting Earth's oxygen"
It actually does not not violate the points of the guidelines, so is it still grounds suppression?
Malcholm
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