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Region: The Mystical Council

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Rondaland wrote:It makes since though.

in real life you have the right to vote, but you have to register, get your voters id card, and join a party.

It makes sense but you do get independent parties. Keep in mind that political parties can be quite polarising, and can create more mess than they solve. I've had to dispand political parties in my own region as they were abused both with their intention and possibly with puppets. Now trying an assembly approach to things (well once the embassy has been created between Solar and Solar Political Assembly)

New Bacon

Parakka Northland wrote:It makes sense but you do get independent parties. Keep in mind that political parties can be quite polarising, and can create more mess than they solve. I've had to dispand political parties in my own region as they were abused both with their intention and possibly with puppets. Now trying an assembly approach to things (well once the embassy has been created between Solar and Solar Political Assembly)

We could make an "sentagon party" that nations are automaticly placed in until they want to form or join a different one.

Malcholm, Parakka Northland, Rondaland

Drina wrote:Hello,i'm just a puppet of a nation that is looking around the world of NS. So,what is this region does?

Mostly RP nowdays; we've had an influx of new faces like myself. There was some controversy regarding a recent vote, I'm sure someone has more info than me.

Drina, Upplasia

Order Of Hospitallers wrote:We could make an "sentagon party" that nations are automaticly placed in until they want to form or join a different one.

That would be a good idea

Malcholm

The Unsettled Lands, The Rose Garden, and The Union Depository are still protected under the Embassy Protection Act.

Malcholm

Plugo wrote:[nation=short]forestavia[/nation] i would like to institute a law before the next election.

All people who wish to run or vote must be in a political party.

Write up a proposal for it.

My opinion is that it wouldn't be fair to those nations who wish to be unaffiliated. I will vote against it since not only does it force nations to assemble against their will but also forces the region into a mandatory political party system. Political parties should be optional.

New Bacon, Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Parakka Northland wrote:That being said what happened to freedom to choose weather to be in a party or not etc?

That's the spirit! :)

New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Parakka Northland

Naumadal wrote:http://www.nationstates.net/nation=naumadal/detail=factbook/id=608752

I will add the Solidarity Bloc to the party list at the info center.

New Bacon, Malcholm

Drina wrote:Hello,i'm just a puppet of a nation that is looking around the world of NS. So,what is this region does?

Welcome! We do everything - politics, RP, regional government, regional laws, elections, military stuff on the side, debates, and lots and lots of controversy. I hope you enjoy your time here. Please check out the polls in Mystical Council and Sentagon.

New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Drina

Forestavia wrote:Write up a proposal for it.

My opinion is that it wouldn't be fair to those nations who wish to be unaffiliated. I will vote against it since not only does it force nations to assemble against their will but also forces the region into a mandatory political party system. Political parties should be optional.

That piece of legislation will be vetoed as people should have the freedom to join a party or not. That also violates my constitution as this law will overturn New Bacon constitutional statute 507. I'm just as serious about my constitution as the Mystical Council's.

Forestavia, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Parakka Northland

New Bacon wrote:That piece of legislation will be vetoed as people should have the freedom to join a party or not. That also violates my constitution as this law will overturn New Bacon constitutional statute 507. I'm just as serious about my constitution as the Mystical Council's.

The Consulate also cannot support a law that would require voters to support a party. Long live the independent voter!

Forestavia, Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Forestavia wrote:The Unsettled Lands, The Rose Garden, and The Union Depository are still protected under the Embassy Protection Act.

Global United Nations is also still protected under the Embassy Protection Act.

Malcholm

54 nations! Holy mackerel! We have more nations than embassies!

New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Parakka Northland

Forestavia wrote:54 nations! Holy mackerel! We have more nations than embassies!

Still looking for recruits for our private military! Telegram me if your interested

New Bacon, Anahuac Empire, Asteroid Colony Gj-042

Exotic Lemon wrote:Still looking for recruits for our private military! Telegram me if your interested

Do you have a list of members that we can refer to?

Vaspassia

Forestavia wrote:Do you have a list of members that we can refer to?

Yes, bu the list is ever-growing, so I wont release it just yet.

Vaspassia

Exotic Lemon wrote:Yes, bu the list is ever-growing, so I wont release it just yet.

This is a preliminary list, hopefully we will have many more:

Forestavia

Plugo

Parakka Northland

Moltavo

New Bacon

Asteroid Colony Gj-042

Malcholm

Exotic Lemon wrote:This is a preliminary list, hopefully we will have many more:

Forestavia

Plugo

Parakka Northland

Moltavo

New Bacon

Asteroid Colony Gj-042

I have an interest in joining; I have had a lot of experience in the past with defending, specifically countering update raids.

Malcholm, Exotic Lemon

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:I have an interest in joining; I have had a lot of experience in the past with defending, specifically countering update raids.

that is just a preliminary list, I am still waiting for quite a few people to respond. I will add you to my list.

Rrepaimziaraseh

Rondaland wrote:I am using executive powers to veto [nation=short]Rrepaimziaraseh[/nation] 's decision to close the WHO embassy.

If he violates my veto without the approval of the council he will be ejected from the region and i will do everything in my power to get him removed from the council.

Cancelled closure with The Collective Regional Association, Islamya, Heroes Rise. They still seem considerably active; the others are fine to go.

Malcholm

Plugo wrote:[nation=short]forestavia[/nation] i would like to institute a law before the next election.

All people who wish to run or vote must be in a political party.

The idea of parties seems interesting; I support it, but it should not be obligatory.

Rondaland wrote:It makes since though.

in real life you have the right to vote, but you have to register, get your voters id card, and join a party.

In the United States, some of that true. Yes, in most states you have to be a registered voter to vote, not a registered party member, but a registered voter. That's as far as the general elections on elections day go. However, it might be a condition to be a registered party member, to vote in your party's primary.

So to reflect this here, in the overall election, there should not be a requirement for an individual to be registered with a party to vote. However, for an individual to run for office, and say that they officially run on behalf of this party or that, then they must have been elected by their registered party member, as a representative of their party, in that particular seat of office.

Further important points regarding my suggestion:

[B]1[/B]) Primary party voting to choose who represents the party for the office, should be held in Sentagon, while the official election with all candidates would be held here.

[B]2[/B]) A party may have only 1 candidate representing it for elections in a seat of office. So it's okay that one party has more than one seat in The Lunar Council, but when there's an election for a particular seat within the council, only one candidate can be official party representative candidate who's running for that seat.

[B]3[/B]) Please, please, please, let us not have party whips. I hate that thing and I believe it forces officials to act in a way that's against what they and their representative want. To hell with hivemind mentality.

[B]4[/B]) If we do have a party system, we should strive on having no less than 3 major parties. If we have only 1 major party, that can easily spiral into a dictatorship and ruin the region, and if we have only 2 major parties, it will just be polarizing each other; each will be trying to do the others work, and nothing gets done. Case in point: America. But when you hit the mark of 3 major parties, you get a balance and the government can actually progress and do things.

Malcholm

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:The idea of parties seems interesting; I support it, but it should not be obligatory.

In the United States, some of that true. Yes, in most states you have to be a registered voter to vote, not a registered party member, but a registered voter. That's as far as the general elections on elections day go. However, it might be a condition to be a registered party member, to vote in your party's primary.

So to reflect this here, in the overall election, there should not be a requirement for an individual to be registered with a party to vote. However, for an individual to run for office, and say that they officially run on behalf of this party or that, then they must have been elected by their registered party member, as a representative of their party, in that particular seat of office.

Further important points regarding my suggestion:

[B]1[/B]) Primary party voting to choose who represents the party for the office, should be held in Sentagon, while the official election with all candidates would be held here.

[B]2[/B]) A party may have only 1 candidate representing it for elections in a seat of office. So it's okay that one party has more than one seat in The Lunar Council, but when there's an election for a particular seat within the council, only one candidate can be official party representative candidate who's running for that seat.

[B]3[/B]) Please, please, please, let us not have party whips. I hate that thing and I believe it forces officials to act in a way that's against what they and their representative want. To hell with hivemind mentality.

[B]4[/B]) If we do have a party system, we should strive on having no less than 3 major parties. If we have only 1 major party, that can easily spiral into a dictatorship and ruin the region, and if we have only 2 major parties, it will just be polarizing each other; each will be trying to do the others work, and nothing gets done. Case in point: America. But when you hit the mark of 3 major parties, you get a balance and the government can actually progress and do things.

I think that you should just let any party that has over 5% popularity into the ballot and onto debates. Then run a tierd system of voting so you don't end up with a plurality.

But that's just me.

My concern with this political party stuff is if we change the system now are we going to make things more complicated than they need to be and are we going to see the largest party by the only one with people in the top positions.

What's going on over here?! [nation=short]oakplumington[/nation] how are you?

Malcholm

Holy cow!!! y'all are 4 times the size of our region.

Malcholm, Drina

You're all invited to SK's 4th of July party!

~Pleasant regards of Sib

*runs away waving a lit handful of sparklers*

Malcholm

Happy 4th, friends!

Dosh Semiw, New Bacon, Malcholm, Exotic Lemon

Zoo Park wrote:Holy cow!!! y'all are 4 times the size of our region.

A combination of recruiting and people joining us from a neighbouring region after their regional government crumbled.

Malcholm

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:A combination of recruiting and people joining us from a neighbouring region after their regional government crumbled.

Ahh

Zoo Park wrote:Holy cow!!! y'all are 4 times the size of our region.

Yeah lol I mean 14 x 4 is 56

We are still recruiting for the military! Our list was looking disappointing right now.

Dosh Semiw, New Bacon, Multeric People

Can i join the military on this alt aswell, (i'm asteroid colony gj-042)

Dosh Semiw, New Bacon, Exotic Lemon

Technological Progression wrote:Can i join the military on this alt aswell, (i'm asteroid colony gj-042)

Of course.

Dosh Semiw, New Bacon

Exotic Lemon wrote:We are still recruiting for the military! Our list was looking disappointing right now.

I'd like to sign as well.

Exotic Lemon

RP: The Dosh Semiwan Government asks [New Bacon] for a potential deal to buy the Northern Mariana Is..

New Bacon, Malcholm

How do you tag nations in a post?

New Bacon

Dosh Semiw wrote:How do you tag nations in a post?

Type (Nations Name)

Dosh Semiw

Post self-deleted by New Bacon.

Dosh Semiw wrote:How do you tag nations in a post?

You an also type for the short part

[ nation=short](national name)[/nation]

Dosh Semiw

Dosh Semiw wrote:RP: The Dosh Semiwan Government asks [New Bacon] for a potential deal to buy the Northern Mariana Is..

Roleplay:

The New Bacon Government will talk.

Dosh Semiw

RP

Captain: I am curious about the technology [nation=short]AU912 Mystical Council Consulate[/nation] is using. I'd like to discuss your propulsion systems in particulat.

Dosh Semiw, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate

The four embassies that I saved are still protected by the Embassy Protection Act. I stated this yesterday on the RMB but no one took action. So I have taken action myself as permitted according to the EPA.

The Rose Garden

The Union Depository

Global United Nations (the Founder there is a leader in ORCA)

The Unsettled Lands (a friend and ally)

The rest of the embassies are fine to close.

Dosh Semiw, New Bacon, Malcholm

Asteroid Colony Gj-042 wrote:RP

Captain: I am curious about the technology [nation=short]AU912 Mystical Council Consulate[/nation] is using. I'd like to discuss your propulsion systems in particulat.

RP

I'm sorry, sir, I haven't been authorized to discuss our technology with outside personnel. However, if you'd like, you could request a tour of one our conventional space program facilities when we arrive at our homeworld.

Dosh Semiw, New Bacon

Hey guys, Galician here.

Dosh Semiw, New Bacon, Malcholm, Order Of Hospitallers, Exotic Lemon

New Bacon wrote:You an also type for the short part

[ nation=short](national name)[/nation]

i use @ (nation name)

it remove the pretitle

for example:

(nation) - New Bacon

@ - [nation=short]new_bacon[/nation]

New Bacon, Rrepaimziaraseh, Malcholm

Order Of Hospitallers wrote:i use @ (nation name)

it remove the pretitle

for example:

(nation) - New Bacon

@ - [nation=short]new_bacon[/nation]

Nice, I didn't know that existed. Good tip.

New Bacon, Malcholm, Order Of Hospitallers, Plugo, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon

[nation=short]Malcholm[/nation]

"3 hours ago: The Vereint Reich of Malcholm updated the World Factbook entry."

*Hmmm, let's look and see what he did*

"Our ConstitutionTracker™ poll can be found in Mystical Council."

> "[B]™[/B]"

Excellent. I will personally sue anyone he uses anything similar.

New Bacon, Malcholm, Order Of Hospitallers, Plugo

Order Of Hospitallers wrote:i use @ (nation name)

it remove the pretitle

for example:

(nation) - New Bacon

@ - [nation=short]new_bacon[/nation]

Wow I didn't know that existed either. No more using that silly long bbc code.

Parakka Northland

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate wrote:RP

I'm sorry, sir, I haven't been authorized to discuss our technology with outside personnel. However, if you'd like, you could request a tour of one our conventional space program facilities when we arrive at our homeworld.

RP

That would be acceptable. *the captain no longer seems to be lucid as his mind slowly drifts away*

New Bacon

Roleplay [nation=short]dosh semiw[/nation]

The Dosh Semiwan Government arrives in Washington DC to go to the New Bacon Capitol to discuss a possible buy of the Northern Mariana Is. Land. A representative comes to one of them and says, "Hello! So you all would like to buy the Northern Mariana Islands from us I see. How much are you willing to give the [nation=short]new bacon[/nation] Government? " So once they find a price, the Legislature would vote to de-annex the Islands from [nation=short]new bacon[/nation]. A representative says, "Y'all are lucky that we didn't turn the islands into a [nation=short]new bacon[/nation] province. It would have been illegal to de-annex them if they were such a province as stated by [nation=short]new bacon[/nation]'s constitution.

Dosh Semiw

Roleplay:

Breaking News! New Bacon's House of Representatives has realigned itself with the growing population. There was 495 representatives. Now there is 580 voting representatives for the New Bacon Provinces and Territories. This is a tremendous growth of government. The New Bacon legislature will vote to build an annex for the house of reps to calm the New Bacon capitol's overcrowding on the house side.

Malcholm, Parakka Northland

Pyrosky wrote:RP:

News of the fax hit the government in a flash, and scores of angry politicians quickly lined the halls of nearly every facility. Arguments, fights, and protests broke out so quickly that the government was forced to shut down for a week before the heat of the people's lamp became too much to bear. The dust settled in the bowels of the government, and two clearly divided and opposing forces took the seats of officials who had, just weeks earlier, been lackadaisical in their work ethics. James Harlock, President of [nation=noflag]Pyrosky[/nation], was even called upon to speak before the Pyroskian Senate, House of Representatives, and hold numerous speeches reassuring the people that their home region wasn't about to become a "colony" of some foreign entity.

OOC RP: The Regional Government of The Greater Holy Isles has yet to formalize and official stance on this matter, however international news corporations have already begun reporting that [nation=short]Forestavia[/nation], [nation=short]Rondaland[/nation], and anyone else involved can expect a unified resilience to their boisterous claims.

Role Play:

In response to the controversy, James Chippy was also called before the Forestavian High Council to answer for his interference in foreign regional governments.

High Council Leader Haley Smith was still on the campaign trial but was linked up via a video feed. "Chippy, what have you done?"

"Absolutely nothing wrong. I have merely invited a region to join The Mystical Council - their region has motioned to adopt a similar constitution to the one our regional government is considering."

"Do you speak for The Mystical Council or does the regional government speak for The Mystical Council?"

"I am NOT speaking for the region! Jade came to the Senate, our Senate here in Forestavia, weeks ago seeking help for a dying region. What are we to do? Nothing? Just as our region rejected outright the offer of a merge by Alpha Wolf into The Sacred Order, The Greater Holy Isles likewise has the same right to decline our offer to annex them. And what gives you the right to summon me here like this and be questioned. Oh, let me see - I think I might know why! You have been losing election after election to Ross Paul in the High Council elections so you see an opportunity and politicize it just like a career politicia-"

"Enough! Both of you!" Stanley Troublesolver stood up between the video feed and James Chippy. "We will wait and pay attention to how Pyrosky handles the proposal in the coming weeks in the mean time I see no further reason to question High Councillor Chippy."

And like that the meeting was over.

Malcholm

New Bacon wrote:Roleplay [nation=short]dosh semiw[/nation]

The Dosh Semiwan Government arrives in Washington DC to go to the New Bacon Capitol to discuss a possible buy of the Northern Mariana Is. Land. A representative comes to one of them and says, "Hello! So you all would like to buy the Northern Mariana Islands from us I see. How much are you willing to give the [nation=short]new bacon[/nation] Government? " So once they find a price, the Legislature would vote to de-annex the Islands from [nation=short]new bacon[/nation]. A representative says, "Y'all are lucky that we didn't turn the islands into a [nation=short]new bacon[/nation] province. It would have been illegal to de-annex them if they were such a province as stated by [nation=short]new bacon[/nation]'s constitution.

The DSG Rep steps up and give a basic rundown of the situation. "The DSG has instructed me to inform the NBG to name their price, and if that wasn't incentive enough, I was to offer a Joint Economic Opportunity(JEO sounds nice right?) Details for the JEO can be discussed at a later date." "Also feel free to propose any amendments to the offers.

New Bacon

IM BACK!!!!

Dosh Semiw, Malcholm, Plugo

Fezchia wrote:IM BACK!!!!

Welcome back mon.

New Bacon, Malcholm

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:[nation=short]Malcholm[/nation]

"3 hours ago: The Vereint Reich of Malcholm updated the World Factbook entry."

*Hmmm, let's look and see what he did*

"Our ConstitutionTracker™ poll can be found in Mystical Council."

> "[B]™[/B]"

Excellent. I will personally sue anyone he uses anything similar.

RP

The leaders of Plugo have a business proposition for [nation=short]malcholm[/nation] , they would like to sell his Constitution Tracker planet wide.

Malcholm

We have about 15 nations interested in joining the military!

Multeric People

RP [nation=short]dosh semiw[/nation] demands that [nation=short]new fezchia[/nation] allow Civ 5 to be viewed worldwide instead of an [nation=short]new fezchia[/nation] exclusive. "Wink Wink make walkthrough". https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5YrrgE-y9XtcxsQqPCnnDg

New Bacon, Malcholm, Plugo

Dosh Semiw wrote:RP [nation=short]dosh semiw[/nation] demands that [nation=short]fezchia[/nation] allow Civ 5 to be viewed worldwide instead of an [nation=short]fezchia[/nation] exclusive. "Wink Wink make walkthrough". https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5YrrgE-y9XtcxsQqPCnnDg

Aw sht where did I get "new" from lol.

New Bacon, Fezchia

Dosh Semiw wrote:The DSG Rep steps up and give a basic rundown of the situation. "The DSG has instructed me to inform the NBG to name their price, and if that wasn't incentive enough, I was to offer a Joint Economic Opportunity(JEO sounds nice right?) Details for the JEO can be discussed at a later date." "Also feel free to propose any amendments to the offers.

Roleplay:

A new bacon net price of 700,000 for Northern Mariana Islands?! Since we're allies? The price would have ran over a million. Or the Islands can have double-control of both governments. A representative says we want your recommended price too!

Dosh Semiw, Plugo

Hear Ye Hear Ye!

*Bangs table with gavel*

Today marks the beginning of the first lunar council parilament session.

First topic on the floor, to amend the EPA. (Embassy Protection Act)

Here is my proposal: http://www.nationstates.net/nation=plugo/detail=factbook/id=653310

Here is oakplumingtons proposal: http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=603317

Forestavia, Dosh Semiw, New Bacon, Malcholm, Order Of Hospitallers

New Bacon wrote:Roleplay:

A new bacon net price of 700,000 for Northern Mariana Islands?! Since we're allies? The price would have ran over a million. Or the Islands can have double-control of both governments. A representative says we want your recommended price too!

RP

"The DSG agrees to the conditions, but is genuinely surprised at this price. We were prepared to give at least 50 Million!

New Bacon

Dosh Semiw wrote:RP

"The DSG agrees to the conditions, but is genuinely surprised at this price. We were prepared to give at least 50 Million!

Roleplay:

The New Bacon Government always supports its allies. So it looks like a deal. The New Bacon legislature will vote tonight to de-annex the islands.

Dosh Semiw

Plugo wrote:Hear Ye Hear Ye!

*Bangs table with gavel*

Today marks the beginning of the first lunar council parilament session.

First topic on the floor, to amend the EPA. (Embassy Protection Act)

Here is my proposal: http://www.nationstates.net/nation=plugo/detail=factbook/id=653310

Here is oakplumingtons proposal: http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=603317

*The grandmaster storms in the room*

Oh yeah!?

Well what about if a fleeter decides to try and push their weight around here?

They wont care about our embassy rules, what will the penalty be for violating the EPA List?

New Bacon wrote:Roleplay:

The New Bacon Government always supports its allies. So it looks like a deal. The New Bacon legislature will vote tonight to de-annex the islands.

The DSG thanks the NBG and promises to list the Official reasons of this deal in a later speech.

New Bacon, Order Of Hospitallers

Galician Country wrote:Hey guys, Galician here.

Welcome to the region man! :)

I can assure you this will be your last move

Plugo

Roleplay:

This is a message from the New Bacon Geological Survey that the mystical council map has been updated. These are the following happenings,

[nation=short]Vaspassia[/nation] transferred to Cuba and Hispaniola from Mexico.

[nation=short]Anahuac Empire[/nation] is Now Mexico and Central America bordering Mainland New Bacon to the North.

[nation=short]Barishmacht[/nation] Northern coast of France and Belgium.

OOC:

Question: Is the New Bacon Geological Survey serving everyone well?

Pyrosky, Barishmacht

RP

Dosh Semiwan Emperor Joseph Semiw addresses the world today bringing news of the nations current events.

"I couldn't come up with a speech, so yeah its kinda awkward. At least we won't be here for awhile listening to a boring speech, yeah?! Well anyways we Decided to buy the Islands for two reasons. One is for research, and the other one? Well that one is too. Um, OK Let's move on. So basically what we want to do with our first project is to Step one Make a Vessel capable of going to the ocean floor WHILE MANNED, then Step two Map the ocean floor Step three Claim ocean floor." Audible WINK WINK. "Project two is the most important though,because it's about Energy. Several test over history has indicated the Nuclear reactor that have sunk in the ocean hasn't done much if any damage. Mainly be cause water is an coolant and believe it or not there an abundance in the ocean." Audible Cringing.

"We thought maybe we can incorporate this in the Nuclear Plant and build them Underwater. Of course its not practical but we don't give a djamn. But then again if we do this by ourselves it will take forever for these project to finish. We ask All the nation of the TMC to Participate or fund these projects. Thats the situation. Good Night Everyone. One last thing as Cheese is my number one export On my birthday, the 10th, everyone get a free cheese layer, Yay."

New Bacon, Pyrosky

It took me 30 min to write this.Wow.

New Bacon

Roleplay:

New Bacon Geological Survey

The Northern Mariana Islands is still pending as far as de-annexation to [nation=short]dosh Semiw[/nation]. Has to be voted on by New Bacon Law.

Dosh Semiw

Dosh Semiw wrote:RP

Dosh Semiwan Emperor Joseph Semiw addresses the world today bringing news of the nations current events.

"I couldn't come up with a speech, so yeah its kinda awkward. At least we won't be here for awhile listening to a boring speech, yeah?! Well anyways we Decided to buy the Islands for two reasons. One is for research, and the other one? Well that one is too. Um, OK Let's move on. So basically what we want to do with our first project is to Step one Make a Vessel capable of going to the ocean floor WHILE MANNED, then Step two Map the ocean floor Step three Claim ocean floor." Audible WINK WINK. "Project two is the most important though,because it's about Energy. Several test over history has indicated the Nuclear reactor that have sunk in the ocean hasn't done much if any damage. Mainly be cause water is an coolant and believe it or not there an abundance in the ocean." Audible Cringing.

"We thought maybe we can incorporate this in the Nuclear Plant and build them Underwater. Of course its not practical but we don't give a djamn. But then again if we do this by ourselves it will take forever for these project to finish. We ask All the nation of the TMC to Participate or fund these projects. Thats the situation. Good Night Everyone. One last thing as Cheese is my number one export On my birthday, the 10th, everyone get a free cheese layer, Yay."

The New Bacon Government will support funding this program!

Dosh Semiw

New Bacon wrote:Roleplay:

New Bacon Geological Survey

The Northern Mariana Islands is still pending as far as de-annexation to [nation=short]dosh Semiw[/nation]. Has to be voted on by New Bacon Law.

I know i just didn't want to forget all of that.

New Bacon

Dosh Semiw wrote:I know i just didn't want to forget all of that.

Oh no that was a message to everyone about the map changes.

Dosh Semiw

Did you guys cringe also?

New Bacon

This is the list of all members interested in the military.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=658033

Hopefully we will make a new region for this military in a few days.

New Bacon, Pyrosky, Plugo, Parakka Northland

Exotic Lemon wrote:This is the list of all members interested in the military.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=658033

Hopefully we will make a new region for this military in a few days.

I didn't say I was interested. Yet.

Plugo, Exotic Lemon

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate wrote:I didn't say I was interested. Yet.

Plugo said you were so blame him

Exotic Lemon wrote:Plugo said you were so blame him

That's what I do for just about everything..

Pyrosky

Exotic Lemon wrote:This is the list of all members interested in the military.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=658033

Hopefully we will make a new region for this military in a few days.

Au912 Mystical Council Consulate wrote:I didn't say I was interested. Yet.

I said he might be because he is helping with the current operation.

Exotic Lemon wrote:Plugo said you were so blame him

No need to blame anyone -__

Plugo wrote:No need to blame anyone -__

Blame was the wrong word, I should have said ask

Plugo

Exotic Lemon wrote:Blame was the wrong word, I should have said ask

All the dispatches ready?

Plugo wrote:All the dispatches ready?

Almost, I still need the training recruits and and a final military structure factbook. (Copy and paste two Factbooks into one.)

Drina

Chef would flip his **** if anyone closed down one of the embassies he made, but yet when others object to embassies he wants to close he has a problem and does it anyway

Plugo, Naumadal

Rondaland wrote:Chef would flip his **** if anyone closed down one of the embassies he made, but yet when others object to embassies he wants to close he has a problem and does it anyway

Why do you guys conflict over embassies so much?

Seems like if one member of the government asks to keep an embassy that should be it, no need to question the judgement of another.

Pyrosky, Plugo

Naumadal wrote:Why do you guys conflict over embassies so much?

Seems like if one member of the government asks to keep an embassy that should be it, no need to question the judgement of another.

How we all wish it was that way.

But everyone must exercise their right to object whenever possible :P

Exotic Lemon

Rondaland wrote:Chef would flip his **** if anyone closed down one of the embassies he made, but yet when others object to embassies he wants to close he has a problem and does it anyway

For the embassies that I opened, it was with new regions that I thought might have a chance. So I said we give them a month, if they don't grow, I will be the first to close it. You didn't care, you just went ahead and shut down the embassy that I opened with Drakeforde after a couple of days. And I didn't even object to that.

For the embassies that I wanted to close, in Red Harbor, I hated how I was talked down to like I am a just a child who doesn't deserve to know anything about the region. And in WHO, I hated how your reaction to closing down embassies with this seemingly useless region is, not to explain to me why we should keep the embassy, but to threaten to eject me from the region.

So really when it comes down to it, it's not about the embassies themselves, it's about the failure of treating fellow region mates as equal peers, and the complete lack of disrespect. And that's just shameful. All I wanted here is some respect and being treated as equal. Why is this such a great thing to ask?

Pyrosky

In terms of closing embassies it would seem to me that power should rest with the Lunar Council President and or the delegate. Then in order to close an embassy you would need to submit a valid reason and he would have to then check to make sure no one else objects first....

Wait can we amend the Condition to cover this? *rubs his hands to gather with gleeful satisfaction*

Forestavia, Plugo

I dig

He dig

She dig

They dig

We dig

I know its not a very good poem

But it is very deep

Forestavia, Pyrosky, Vaspassia, Drina, Plugo

Naumadal wrote:Why do you guys conflict over embassies so much?

Hehe. Cause that's the way I designed it. There is to be conflict between the Lunar Councillors and the other two branches of government. It's good for an embassy to fall into limbo every once in a while. However, there is a process for how to deal with embassies. If there is disagreement among the Lunar Council 3 votes will yield a decision called an executive action. But for every executive action, there are two chances for that same action to be nullified by the other two branches. If there is disagreement over executive actions between two or more branches of government for an extended time then the Delegate and both Presidents can vote on what executive actions to uphold and which to throw out. This requires two votes. If the region disagrees then it is time to kick it up a notch to regional law. Two branches may pass a law at any time overriding the executive orders.

My suggestion is to finish the amendment to the Embassy Protection Act and vote on it.

Pyrosky, Vaspassia, Plugo

Parakka Northland wrote:In terms of closing embassies it would seem to me that power should rest with the Lunar Council President and or the delegate. Then in order to close an embassy you would need to submit a valid reason and he would have to then check to make sure no one else objects first....

Wait can we amend the Condition to cover this? *rubs his hands to gather with gleeful satisfaction*

Why???? We have a regional law that already deals with embassies. It's called the Embassy Protection Act. I think it's better to keep the embassy powers in the hands of all of the Lunar Councillors since they were all elected by the people. These disagreements force them to find ways to work together. The system is working beautifully.

Pyrosky, Malcholm, Vaspassia

I would like to make a motion to put up the poll on the proposal to amend the EPA.

Pyrosky, Vaspassia

Barishmacht wrote:I dig

He dig

She dig

They dig

We dig

I know its not a very good poem

But it is very deep

It's the lamest joke i ever heard,and for some reason that is why it's funny. XAXAXAXAXA!

Take my like good sir!

Forestavia wrote:I would like to make a motion to put up the poll on the proposal to amend the EPA.

Good idea, but make sure it doesn't violate [nation=short]Malcholm[/nation]'s ConstitutionTracker™ poll patent. I personally promised to sue anyone who breaks that patent.

Malcholm, Plugo

Rrepaimziaraseh wrote:Good idea, but make sure it doesn't violate [nation=short]Malcholm[/nation]'s ConstitutionTracker™ poll patent. I personally promised to sue anyone who breaks that patent.

Do you support my proposed EPA ammendment?

Malcholm

Plugo wrote:Do you support my proposed EPA ammendment?

It's the same as Oak's except it's + New Celtic Order, right? Seems good to me.

I am assuming NCO's founder is you or one of your friends? ? ? If so it would probably best if you guys changed your WFE over there; I don't think Alpha Wolf qualifies as one of your friends anymore about what he did to TSO.

Barishmacht, Plugo

Forestavia wrote:Why???? We have a regional law that already deals with embassies. It's called the Embassy Protection Act. I think it's better to keep the embassy powers in the hands of all of the Lunar Councillors since they were all elected by the people. These disagreements force them to find ways to work together. The system is working beautifully.

Except for the constant bickering that leads to snide remarks but I'm happy that we leave things as they if others are

Pyrosky

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Bacon Central News Roleplay:

Breaking News!! The New Bacon Congress has voted to de-annex the Northern Mariana Islands to [nation=short]Dosh Semiw[/nation] also approved by President Taharqa in the recent legislation factbook. Some of the effects are that the New Bacon House of Representatives will possibly lose one seat in Congress making it go from 580 to 579 on the house side unless the government opens up another seat for another province/territory of New Bacon. The citizens that work for the New Bacon government will still be able to keep their jobs but would have to move to the province of New Forestavia or the New Bacon territory of Greater Oceania. Social security checks will still get mailed to the Islands remaining residents since they were once paying sales taxes to buy goods. This was a major piece of legislation

Factbook on New Bacon's Recent legislation

http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=658252

Reporting from Bacon Central News Jeff Wayne.

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