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Region: The Mystical Council
How can there be an ambassador without an embassy
Lampar, Parakka Northland
That's why I thought about calling them consulates.
They would have the same purpose as an ambassador, but they aren't one.
Can you have consulates without embassies?
Lampar
Pewter welcome. Vote for civilsunio's proposal.
That was the plan, yes.
Pewter
Are all of these nations from Sentagon?
Which nations?
Lampar
All of these nations coming from the Rejected Realms.
Goldclave, Pewter, havendish went from sentagon to the rejected realms. Are there any more?
Exotic Lemon
Even if they are they haven't been in the region for 7 days so technically they are not part of Sentagon till then or at least that is my understanding of the rules.
Plugo, Exotic Lemon
I am talking about the now defunct region of sentagon. Yes they were in the sentagon region. No they are not registered with the sentagon branch or the sentagon list
He cannot.
New Bacon, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Plugo, Parakka Northland
They might have been at one time or anouther, but if there has been some time since they CTE or were sent to rejected realms then they will likley as not need to wait 7 days again before they are eligible to vote. Again that's my understanding of the rules
New Bacon, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Plugo
Due to voter fraud I would like to suspend the poll but as I haven't got majority approval, I've shifted my vot in order to cause a tie and thus ensure that no outcome is adopted as I font support either
Forestavia, New Bacon, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Plugo, Exotic Lemon
Parakka Northland not just talking to you personally but, come on man you all need to get this government thing straightened out. Hell now!
Dosh Semiw, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Plugo
We do need to sort this out
New Bacon, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Plugo
Did the poll tie?
Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Exotic Lemon
Yes, but there are so many puppet votes, double votes, votes from unregistered voters, etc, That it will take forever to sort through. Also I believe we are rushing reform, we should instead of making a hasty decision on one of these proposals think carefully and present a solution. I believe we may suspend the results of the poll for now.
Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Plugo, Parakka Northland
Post self-deleted by Kazukame.
We will take everything into account. Right now we ask for your patience while the government decides the most reasonable and beneficial steps to keep the region safe, fair, and the great region that it always has been.
Kazukame, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Plugo, Parakka Northland
"The government? I thought this was a region by and for [I]the people[/I]!" — someone, eventually.
Kazukame, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Plugo, Exotic Lemon
Another idea for voting on polls: only nations present in the region at the time the poll, and then only those who fit within the restraints of our voter registration requirements are given the opportunity to vote in the poll. No exceptions. You miss the start of a poll, too bad. From the sounds of it, this thing is going to vote again soon enough. I'd advise the existing government makes a collective decision regarding the qualms of every nation before they publish another proposal. A concise, universally accepted proposal is going to hold more ground in our political battlefield—so make it happen! Circumvent the ideological divide and come up with a solution that combines the best elements of the existing proposals while taking into account the existing issues that weren't resolved.
The best first step you all could take is to compile a physical list or document of every issue we had with the version Constitution that failed to pass on July 22. Use it to create a better, more oriented government that works for the people.
Kazukame, Forestavia, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Plugo, Parakka Northland
This (^) is why I like AU912's proposal so much, it takes a comprehensive look at our existing government and modifies it in simple ways to correct it's existing issues.
A long while back, I strongly advocated that the Lunar Council should retain all of its inherent constitutional duties of proposing/ passing legislation and judicial responsibilities because a majority to the active nations in the region at the time were members of the Lunar Council (or the existing government in some capacity). Now that the region has expanded to its current size, it doesn't make sense for the Lunar Council (or any singular group) to be so powerful. Here's my take on what the government should be, low-budget infographic style.
https://imgur.com/a/HgsX8
Kazukame, Forestavia, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Plugo
Did I actually just spend 1˝ hours doing that? Damn, why don't I have better ways to waste time?
Kazukame, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Plugo, Exotic Lemon
As a parliamentarian I propose that we can restrict the number of nations that can vote. We can do this by only allowing native nations to vote.
Plugo, Exotic Lemon
The lunar council is not all powerful. We can't even vote in some polls, and everything we do has to be approved by sentagon
Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Plugo, Parakka Northland
While I agree that puppet votes are extremely heavy, we should not punish everyone for the actions of a few. Let us stop and think, and if no better solution emerged we will try it. If we rush it, it will not turn out good
Kazukame, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Plugo, Parakka Northland
Post by Chutland suppressed by Exotic Lemon.
Relax let's get laid. I will be in the government whatever position is available. I want you to lay me. I am waiting to bring you inside me. Come inside
Post by Parakka Northland suppressed by New Bacon.
Do you really need an answer to that question
Post by Exotic Lemon suppressed by New Bacon.
We do not care to advertise such views here. If thats your opinions, at least keep them to yourself. If another officer thinks I was wrong they can unsupress it themselves. Since both [nation=short]Kazukame[/nation] and [nation=short]Parakka Northland[/nation] both have not unsurpressed the posts, I doubt anyone else will.
Why Chutland! I'm appalled. Have you no principles? Have you no scruples? Are you so hungry for power that you are willing to sleep your way to the upper echelons of power in our region? I hope whoever you seduce is smart enough to use protection - for their sake.
[spoiler=On A More Serious Note]
The officers are right about what they said. This website is supposed to be family friendly. I would tone it down a notch or two. PG-13 is pretty much what the site rules call for. Try to stick to that.
[/spoiler]
Kazukame, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Plugo, Parakka Northland
Special Announcement to the Region
There have been questions of voter fraud, puppet voting, suspicions, and in general our government is going off of the rails. I am going to be instating a temporary interim government to prevent us from losing our free and democratic culture.
Sentagon is hereby dissolved. The Parliamentary officers will retain their respective positions and will be incorporated into the Lunar Council.
Delegate New Bacon is hereby the eleventh member of the Lunar Council.
From this point forward we will function in the following way with three branches.
Branch one: All people/registered voters - But not the elected government - (all votes equal - must be a resident of the region for at least a week)
Branch two: WA nations only (all votes equal - only WA member nations with a residency of at least a week may vote)
*Note WA nations will participate in this branch as well as Branch #1.
Branch three: The Lunar Council: Ten elected Lunar Councillors - 5 month terms - 2 seats elected per full moon. The WA Delegate will be the eleventh member of the Lunar Council and will be elected freely by the WA member nations. This is the executive as well as judicial branch of government. If there is ever disagreement within the branch you are required to vote. If the vote is tied, the Lunar Council President will break the tie.
If the people disagree with what the Lunar Council is doing then the people should petition the government for a poll and run for a position on the Lunar Council.
The ORCA rep will not be a member of the Lunar Council and will vote with the people. If they have WA then they can also vote in branch #2.
This government is a temporary interim government until we can get ourselves a little more organized.
Before we proceed in this constitutional process we need to hammer out voting rules, how to deal with all of the various hypotheticals that we have experienced since starting this experiment.
Anyone who has been here for one week and is interested in running for a position on the Lunar Council may state so on the RMB and should also send me a telegram. Elections will be starting soon.
We will use the Interim government may be adopted as the official government if we're happy with it but, as I've only recently thrown this together there are bound to be problems with it. More than likely the Interim government will guide us towards another freer and more stable regional government.
This is an executive action of the Founder put into place 9/4/2016. There is evidence that we have reached a dysfunctional chaotic state requiring leadership. I am exercising emergency powers for the time being. This executive action may be overturned by a simple majority vote of at least two out of the three branches. This way our region has the freedom to choose chaos and anarchy as a way of life if we so choose.
Let me be clear, this is a genuine attempt on my part to restore order. However, if any officer feels it necessary to call me out on this as an abuse of founder authority then they may do so by calling a poll that includes the following options: Yes, No, Abstain. I reserve the authority to redo a poll that does not include that format.
I will be putting up a test poll shortly to show you how voting in this Interim government works. I want every nation in this region who sees this poll to vote. Even if you haven't been here for the full seven days, please vote. This is a teaching poll that we will do.
Kazukame, Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Plugo, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
Oh, please. You're making me blush! ;)
Malcholm, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Plugo, Parakka Northland
Kazukame, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Plugo, Parakka Northland
All the current officers are members of the Lunar Council except for Moltavo. Moltavo will vote with the people.
Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Plugo, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
Why is the lc enlarged?
Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Plugo
Out of convenience. I have dissolved Sentagon but I don't have the heart to kick Plugo and Parliament out of government during this transition. They will remain for now. I will pair them up with the Lunar Councillors so that we will elect 2 Lunar Councillors every full moon instead of 1. This is how we will do things until we pass a constitution or pass regional laws that alter the way our government works.
Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Plugo, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
I need a volunteer to be a government accountability officer. You will be a sort of representative of the people. You will have the ability to rally the people but will not have much power beyond that. There is no political authority associated with this office but you will be a whistleblower of sorts.
You may not already be a member of government. Your job will be to work with me, keep an eye out for abuse or violations of law, and to audit polls.
Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Plugo, Civilisunio, Exotic Lemon, Viva Italia
I agree with this.
Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Republic Of Greater Cuba
I'll be running for Lunar Council under the Spectrum Party!
Forestavia, Civilisunio
Welcome to spectrum!;)
Lampar
I've been in it for about 5 days, but I guess I never formally stated it on the RMB.
Civilisunio
Who are you going to try to replace?
Teurs.
Do t replace him, you should replace me.
The interim government is a nice plan. The structure is also good with space for accountability and dissent.
Malcholm
Well, I didn't know what you'd say if I said you.
But ok.
I plan on becoming delegate anyway, and even if I dont win delegate my term is close to ending anyway.
Lampar
I guess I'll be challenging you then.
Exotic Lemon
In the current poll, do the choices mean anything, or is it just a test of the system?
Hey [nation=short]new_bacon[/nation], what program are you using for your 3D renders?
New Bacon
If and when the new government goes for election i would like to run again, as i assume all current officers will be removed from office?
Exotic Lemon
I will not run for reelection.
Parakka Northland
[B]Just to let you all know[/B] it looks like we will be having a map reset in the Solar Alliance for those of you who are involved.
Also might be getting raided soon if a former region member has his own way, but thats another story lol
Forestavia
Raided? Can the battle guard defend it for you?
Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Parakka Northland
What did I miss? (Btw sorry for being inactive for this long school for me has been chaotic)
Forestavia, Dosh Semiw, New Bacon, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Exotic Lemon
State of emergency mass panic, brand new government and a population spike.
Parakka Northland
I was running and a hawk almost landed near me 0-0
Malcholm
At the moment we (the security council and myself) have agreed to a state of emergancy. Plus its convenient as this way i can fix some of the government problems we currently have (kill two birds with one stone so to speak). Once thats sorted i plan to discuss with the battle guard, TMC and SASC (Solar Alliance Security Council) about perhaps seeing if there is away to adopt The Battle Guard as our military as well. But one thing at a time
Republic Of Greater Cuba, Exotic Lemon
No, it's just a test. When the poll closes I'm going to go through it step by step and explain how the vote tallies work when passing regional laws.
Malcholm, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate
[nation=short]Civilisunio[/nation] will be our Government Accountability Officer.
New Bacon, Civilisunio
Your seat is safe until January.
Likewise, Exotic Lemon's seat is also safe until December.
There is no need to totally uproot the old system.
We will need a replacement for Chef and Dosh Semiw will be up for reelection. The top two candidates with the most votes will be the declared winners. This was the way we used to do it back in the old days when we had less than 14 nations here.
Your Lunar Council election schedule looks like this (this is based off of the old schedule and the recent Parliament Poll).
September: Chef and Dosh Semiw
October: Naumadal and Teurs
November: AU912 and Republic of Greater Cuba
December: Exotic Lemon and Kazukame
January: Parakka Northland and Plugo
As of right now, Dosh Semiw and Lampar are our current candidates for the Lunar Council election under the Harvest Moon.
Malcholm, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
Welcome Back! :)
New Bacon, Barishmacht, Au912 Mystical Council Consulate, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Exotic Lemon
Sketchup. That's what I use for all my 3D models.
Malcholm, Barishmacht, Republic Of Greater Cuba
Can i run for the September seat?
Bacon Central News
[B]Breaking News[/B]
The New Bacon Government voted to override President Climaco's veto. New Bacon will temporarily resign from the WA at 11:30PM EST. The 2/3 majority was indeed met with the New Bacon senate making a rare [B]UNANIMOUS[/B] vote.
Repeal the World Assembly Act (Provisional) Statute 120
This law is hereby repealed temporarily. Therefore be it enacted by congress.
These changes will occur,
-Seizure of the WA delegate position
-Various taxes fall in the District of Columbia and New Bacon
-Effective 11:30PM EST SEPT 4
Senate: 60-42
House: 380-199
Approval By: VETOED by President Climaco
Override Votes:
Senate: 102-0
House: 395-184
[nation=short]Bacon Central News[/nation] partners with [nation=short]The Mystical Council News Agency[/nation]
Lampar, Parakka Northland, Exotic Lemon
Sorry, I haven't introduced myself on here. I'm Keongard, as you see. I'm pretty new (sort of) to NationStates.
Malcholm, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Exotic Lemon
Who you going to challenge? Or are you waiting for chefs term to end
Civilisunio
How new?
Waiting for chefs turn to end. When does it 2nd Exactly?
Plugo
Don't know. You lose your position as government representative though
Civilisunio
2 months or so new. If you think that's new.
Civilisunio
I've only been on ns Since January, right when it started blowing up and it was in its 'best' state in my opinion:)
Republic Of Greater Cuba
January? I have been here almost a year.
Malcholm, Civilisunio
'IF' I win!:) Thats fine as Well. Although I do like my current position, if im elected obviously a majority likes ma and my beliefs, and Thats kinda of like representing the people, right.
Republic Of Greater Cuba
Why so surprised?
New Bacon
Be careful of those views, and you will have competition for the lc
New Bacon, Malcholm, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Civilisunio
You seem to be making many ideas and proposals, stuff that is usually done by nations older than you
Malcholm, Civilisunio
Well why join nation states if you arent going to play correctly?
Also, my history on ns (which could be made into the size of a child's chapter bookXD) has made me who I am on ns and real life suprisingly.
New Bacon, Malcholm, Republic Of Greater Cuba, Lampar, Exotic Lemon
My history, is a little more complicated.
Should we make a dispatch, like Cuba did?
Civilisunio
You have a long and controversial past. Very long
Lampar, Civilisunio
Me and lampar belive it or not have literally VERY similar pasts. Right, [nation=short]lampar[/nation]?
Lampar
Controversial? I guess some people don't believe me on my history.
And yes, our pasts are very close together, most is the same.
Like a dispatch with our history's in one dispatch? Or separate dispatches?
Lampar
Probably one dispatch that would be modified.
It would probably act as a small novel. It could be called:
"The history of Lampar and Civ: A true Mystery"
Civilisunio, Exotic Lemon
Sounds Very Amazing!
When was your nation created?
Lampar
We're going to have to decide on a clear history between us, we can discuss it via telegram.
Civilisunio
January 19, 2016.
Alright. Tg me when your ready.:)
Lampar
I will if you want me to
Lampar
I am able to write
That would be great!
I'll telegram you the stuff you need. Start whenever.
Republic Of Greater Cuba
okay, also what should we do about Celtica?
Lampar
The region, or something else?
the dispatch
Lampar
I guess you can put it on hold if you want.
You can start mine whenever.
Republic Of Greater Cuba
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