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Kalaron wrote:Yeah, this seems more like a waste of money for them, then. Attacking allies really seems like a bad idea for the NST considering no one would really work with them, then. (IIRC PLR is working with the NST.)

There's always a plan but I'll let you all continue your ignorance and flawed observation

Talkative Friedensriech

Jaslandia, Peoples Liberation Republic

[nation=short]Kalaron[/nation], you'll be happy to know that I just checked with my Finance Ministry and my Defense Ministry, and they've officially confirmed our deal. We'll be expecting your uranium and weapons at Brendam Docks. From there, the uranium will be taken by train to Misty Island via an underwater tunnel, while the weapons will be taken by train to Percyton's de facto military centre at Peel Godred. I've also called in an expert from the Mainland to give the engines a crash course on handling radioactive material like uranium.

Jaslandia

Got another one of your issues [nation=short]Nuremgard[/nation], this one about VAT! I went with the option of reducing VAT on necessities while increasing it on luxuries.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Oh would you look at that, a group of furries raped a 13 year-old kid dressed as Tony Tiger, and then had sex with a pair of Rottweilers.

What a bunch of degenerates.

Yukona, United Continental States

Magnatronia wrote:Oh would you look at that, a group of furries raped a 13 year-old kid dressed as Tony Tiger, and then had sex with a pair of Rottweilers.

What a bunch of degenerates.

what

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, United Continental States

Sulania wrote:Oi, I was mentioned. And how in god's green Earth am I liberal?

Anywho, in regards to the poll, I must vote nay primarily for two reasons.

1) In regards to not accepting embassy applications with nations that have been condemned by the WA Assembly. While I know the WA doesn't just hand out condemnations willy nilly, and can generally agree with many of the condemnations they hand out, I must say that I am against letting the WA have a degree of control over our Foreign Affairs. We, not the WA, should be the ones that determine what regions are worth our time and should handle all regions on a case-by-case basis, regardless of their status within the WA.

2) The Tags. While I do agree with the tags listed being something I definitely don't agree with, I'd like to note that the original CFN had the tag of 'Fascist.' This wasn't because we were for Fascism, but rather because we welcomed Fascist members to our community. It was a symbol of how we accepted any and all regardless of their political leanings. Who's to say other regions don't do the same? And who's to say that a region that may be in some ways fascist, or uses the fascist tag (or any of the other tags listed), will not be of a benefit to the CoFN in the realm of Foreign Affairs? Let's not forget that members of this very community are self-described Fascists, and have proven themselves to be valued members of this community alongside those of other ideologies. We should handle it the same way as I have said before, handle things on a case-by-case basis instead of a blanket ban. This way, we won't eliminate any potential allies and friends just because of ideology, or if they were like the original CFN simply because they included a tag.

My two cents anyway.

With liberal I meant that you're not going to ban people because of their ideas. Anyway, you give a valid point, that's why I will add an exception for Embassy Collectors and for regions that have tha tags to show that they welcome everybody. A purely Fascist Region would have only Fascist tags , while a region for all would also have Socialist, Communist, Conservative etc,etc.

Magnatronia wrote:Oh would you look at that, a group of furries raped a 13 year-old kid dressed as Tony Tiger, and then had sex with a pair of Rottweilers.

What a bunch of degenerates.

where the hell did this come from?

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, United Continental States

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:There's always a plan but I'll let you all continue your ignorance and flawed observation

Kek.

I'll give you one thing, you genuinely sound like America now, mostly from before Vietnam or Iraq but still.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://usacac.army.mil/cac2/Repository/Materials/COIN-FM3-24.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwi6ofO1j9TVAhUBZiYKHU9iDiYQFggjMAA&usg=AFQjCNGK-ms6C9QRBRwVgUDDaqDrc_C6rQ

Now I don't want to tell you that you've only created the conditions for all of Somalia to unite against the NST, but that's exactly what you've done.

Percyton wrote:[nation=short]Kalaron[/nation], you'll be happy to know that I just checked with my Finance Ministry and my Defense Ministry, and they've officially confirmed our deal. We'll be expecting your uranium and weapons at Brendam Docks. From there, the uranium will be taken by train to Misty Island via an underwater tunnel, while the weapons will be taken by train to Percyton's de facto military centre at Peel Godred. I've also called in an expert from the Mainland to give the engines a crash course on handling radioactive material like uranium.

Glad to hear it, dude :D

Jaslandia, Percyton

Kalaron wrote:Glad to hear it, dude :D

Mmmm Kal, top source of sweet sweet metal of clean, everlasting energy...and big bombs.

Jaslandia, Kalaron, Percyton

Kalaron wrote:Kek.

I'll give you one thing, you genuinely sound like America now, mostly from before Vietnam or Iraq but still.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://usacac.army.mil/cac2/Repository/Materials/COIN-FM3-24.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwi6ofO1j9TVAhUBZiYKHU9iDiYQFggjMAA&usg=AFQjCNGK-ms6C9QRBRwVgUDDaqDrc_C6rQ

Now I don't want to tell you that you've only created the conditions for all of Somalia to unite against the NST, but that's exactly what you've done.

Was that possibly my plan?

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Jaslandia, Cesorion

Moldegaard wrote:what
Pirate Kingdoms wrote:where the hell did this come from?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/2738532/fifth-alleged-member-of-sick-furry-fetish-paedophile-ring-charged-with-dressing-up-as-an-animal-and-raping-a-boy-14/amp/

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:Was that possibly my plan?

Man, with friends like these, who needs insurgents?

Note to self, if I ask you to help me move a couch, you might just shoot the house instead :P

No but really, making people in country hate your faction just incentives the other side so I'm still confused as to how this helps the NST or counts as supporting them, really.

The Interstellar Federation wrote:Mmmm Kal, top source of sweet sweet metal of clean, everlasting energy...and big bombs.

Hehe, hey, Kalaron likes to help make clean energy and we love to make creative weapons. Better than wikipedia.

You ain't so shabby yourself :P

Jaslandia

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- Father's Day (Brazil)

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- National Spirit of ’45 Day (United States)

- The Day of Cantabria (Cantabria, Spain)

- Turkmen Melon Day (Turkmenistan)

- Women's Day and Family Day (Tunisia)

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 29 BC – Octavian holds the first of three consecutive triumphs in Rome to celebrate the victory over the Dalmatian tribes.

- 523 – John I becomes the new Pope after the death of Pope Hormisdas.

- 554 – Emperor Justinian I rewards Liberius for his long and distinguished service in the Pragmatic Sanction, granting him extensive estates in Italy.

- 582 – Maurice becomes Emperor of the Eastern Roman Empire.

- 900 – Count Reginar I of Hainault rises against Zwentibold of Lotharingia and slays him near present-day Susteren.

- 1516 – The Treaty of Noyon between France and Spain is signed. Francis I of France recognizes Charles's claim to Naples, and Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor, recognizes Francis's claim to Milan.

- 1521 – After an extended siege, forces led by Spanish conquistador Hernán Cortés capture Tlatoani Cuauhtémoc and conquer the Aztec capital of Tenochtitlan.

- 1532 – Union of Brittany and France: The Duchy of Brittany is absorbed into the Kingdom of France.

- 1536 – Buddhist monks from Kyoto, Japan's Enryaku-ji temple set fire to 21 Nichiren temples throughout in what will be known as the Tenbun Hokke Disturbance. (Traditional Japanese date: July 27, 1536).

- 1553 – Michael Servetus is arrested by John Calvin in Geneva, Switzerland as a heretic.

- 1624 – The French king Louis XIII appoints Cardinal Richelieu as prime minister

- 1704 – War of the Spanish Succession: Battle of Blenheim: English and Imperial forces are victorious over French and Bavarian troops.

- 1779 – American Revolutionary War: The Royal Navy defeats the Penobscot Expedition with the most significant loss of United States naval forces prior to the attack on Pearl Harbor.

- 1792 – King Louis XVI of France is formally arrested by the National Tribunal, and declared an enemy of the people.

- 1806 – Battle of Mišar during the Serbian Revolution begins. The battle will end two days later, with a decisive Serbian victory over the Ottomans.

- 1814 – The Convention of London, a treaty between the United Kingdom and the United Provinces, is signed in London, England.

- 1868 – The 8.5–9.0 Mw Arica earthquake struck southern Peru with a maximum Mercalli intensity of XI (Extreme), causing 25,000(United States) deaths and a destructive basin wide tsunami that affected Hawaii and New Zealand.

- 1876 – The premiere of Der Ring des Nibelungen at the recently completed Bayreuth Festspielhaus.

- 1898 – Spanish–American War: Spanish and American forces engage in a mock battle for Manila, after which the Spanish commander surrendered in order to keep the city out of Filipino rebel hands.

- 1898 – Carl Gustav Witt discovers 433 Eros, the first near-Earth asteroid to be found.

- 1905 – Norwegians vote to end the union with Sweden.

- 1906 – The all black infantrymen of the U.S. Army's 25th Infantry Regiment are accused of killing a white bartender and wounding a white police officer in Brownsville, Texas, despite exculpatory evidence; all are later dishonorably discharged. (Their records were later restored to reflect honorable discharges but there were no financial settlements.)

- 1913 – Otto Witte, an acrobat, is purportedly crowned King of Albania.

- 1913 – First production in the UK of stainless steel by Harry Brearley.

- 1918 – Women enlist in the United States Marine Corps for the first time. Opha May Johnson is the first woman to enlist.

- 1918 – Bayerische Motoren Werke AG (BMW) established as a public company in Germany.

- 1920 – Polish–Soviet War: The Battle of Warsaw begins and will last till August 25. The Red Army is defeated.

- 1937 – The Battle of Shanghai begins.

- 1942 – Major General Eugene Reybold of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers authorizes the construction of facilities that would house the "Development of Substitute Materials" project, better known as the Manhattan Project.

- 1944 – World War II: German troops begin the pillage and razing of Anogeia in Crete that would continue until September 5.

- 1954 – Radio Pakistan broadcasts the "Qaumī Tarāna", the national anthem of Pakistan for the first time.

- 1960 – The Central African Republic declares independence from France.

- 1961 – East Germany closes the border between the eastern and western sectors of Berlin to thwart its inhabitants' attempts to escape to the West, and construction of the Berlin Wall is started.

- 1964 – Peter Allen and Gwynne Evans are hanged for the Murder of John Alan West becoming the last people executed in the United Kingdom.

- 1968 – Alexandros Panagoulis attempts to assassinate the Greek dictator Colonel Georgios Papadopoulos in Varkiza, Athens.

- 1969 – The Apollo 11 astronauts are released from a three-week quarantine to enjoy a ticker tape parade in New York City That evening, at a state dinner in Los Angeles, they are awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by U.S. President Richard Nixon.

- 1977 – Members of the British National Front (NF) clash with anti-NF demonstrators in Lewisham, London, resulting in 214 arrests and at least 111 injuries.

- 1978 – One hundred fifty Palestinians in Beirut are killed in a terrorist attack during the second phase of the Lebanese Civil War.

- 2004 – Hurricane Charley, a Category 4 storm, strikes Punta Gorda, Florida, and devastates the surrounding area.

- 2004 – One hundred fifty-six Congolese Tutsi refugees are massacred at the Gatumba refugee camp in Burundi.

- 2008 – South Ossetian War: Russian units occupy the Georgian city of Gori.

- 2015 – At least 76 people are killed and 212 others are wounded in a truck bombing in Baghdad, Iraq.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1860 – Annie Oakley, American target shooter

- 1866 – Giovanni Agnelli, Italian businessman, founded Fiat S.p.A

- 1871 – Karl Liebknecht, German socialist politican, co-founder of the Spartacist League and the Communist Party of Germany

- 1872 – Richard Willstätter, German-Swiss chemist and academic, Nobel Prize Laureate

- 1899 – Alfred Hitchcock, English-American director and producer

- 1902 – Felix Wankel, German engineer, invented the Wankel engine

- 1918 – Frederick Sanger, English biochemist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1926 – Fidel Castro, Cuban lawyer and politician, 15th President of Cuba

- 1945 – Howard Marks, Welsh cannabis smuggler, writer, and legalisation campaigner

- 1970 – Alan Shearer, English footballer and manager

- 1971 – Moritz Bleibtreu, German actor

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Jaslandia, Percyton

So I'm thinking of starting to RP again, but I realize a lot has changed. Can someone catch me up?

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Baxten wrote:So I'm thinking of starting to RP again, but I realize a lot has changed. Can someone catch me up?

OK, so...

PLR is off having American Style Adventures in PK. Kalaron has supplied the Free State with plenty of armaments as they're joining CONCORD which should turn the battle into their hands. Also PLR is bombing the NST's allies because IDK it doesn't really make sense to me because now the NST is hated in the villages he's bombed when they were liked before.

CROSS has reformed with four or five members or something including PLR, TCADs, Ces and Handland and probably also Fried too. And I think Kum but Kum doesn't RP.

CONCORD is holding steady and I'm supplying them with Tse.

Fried's sequestration of Vista is continuing or something, really Vista is just kinda going along with it but he's changing his nation for economic reasons.

Mag is having a civil war between """"communists"""" and his normal government with some people supporting the Communists

That should be it, though we also have a soft economic system that Kalaron is rich inside of.

Jaslandia

Kalaron wrote:OK, so...

PLR is off having American Style Adventures in PK. Kalaron has supplied the Free State with plenty of armaments as they're joining CONCORD which should turn the battle into their hands. Also PLR is bombing the NST's allies because IDK it doesn't really make sense to me because now the NST is hated in the villages he's bombed when they were liked before.

CROSS has reformed with four or five members or something including PLR, TCADs, Ces and Handland and probably also Fried too. And I think Kum but Kum doesn't RP.

CONCORD is holding steady and I'm supplying them with Tse.

Fried's sequestration of Vista is continuing or something, really Vista is just kinda going along with it but he's changing his nation for economic reasons.

Mag is having a civil war between """"communists"""" and his normal government with some people supporting the Communists

That should be it, though we also have a soft economic system that Kalaron is rich inside of.

Ah yes, "sequestration". I've seen you use that a lot lately. In reality, we likely didn't have any assets over there to begin with (changing now, I might add), and all I was doing was applying political pressure on the new government to repeal its controversial new law.

You also forgot my totally legal and ethical support of PLR in Somalia through the IWA proxy that I'm going to abuse the fûck out of for a very very long time.

And no, I'm no member of CROSS, though I'm sure you would love it if I were.

Jaslandia, Yukona

Baxten wrote:So I'm thinking of starting to RP again, but I realize a lot has changed. Can someone catch me up?

Well it is a good time for me to start in the RP.

Talkative Friedensriech wrote:Ah yes, "sequestration". I've seen you use that a lot lately. In reality, we likely didn't have any assets over there to begin with (changing now, I might add), and all I was doing was applying political pressure on the new government to repeal its controversial new law.

You also forgot my totally legal and ethical support of PLR in Somalia through the IWA proxy that I'm going to abuse the fûck out of for a very very long time.

And no, I'm no member of CROSS, though I'm sure you would love it if I were.

1) Just checked, was actually the wrong word I used. I meant Alienation.

2) Eh, considering the tie between you and PLR's nation I really wouldn't be that surprised if you joined CROSS in the event of a war or if tensions raised, tbh. I don't really care about what you do, don't know why you'd think I preferred it if you were.

Jaslandia

Kalaron wrote:OK, so...

PLR is off having American Style Adventures in PK. Kalaron has supplied the Free State with plenty of armaments as they're joining CONCORD which should turn the battle into their hands. Also PLR is bombing the NST's allies because IDK it doesn't really make sense to me because now the NST is hated in the villages he's bombed when they were liked before.

CROSS has reformed with four or five members or something including PLR, TCADs, Ces and Handland and probably also Fried too. And I think Kum but Kum doesn't RP.

CONCORD is holding steady and I'm supplying them with Tse.

Fried's sequestration of Vista is continuing or something, really Vista is just kinda going along with it but he's changing his nation for economic reasons.

Mag is having a civil war between """"communists"""" and his normal government with some people supporting the Communists

That should be it, though we also have a soft economic system that Kalaron is rich inside of.

How does one go about joining this economic thing? And how does it really work?

Baxten wrote:How does one go about joining this economic thing? And how does it really work?

Ask Hyder.

South Hyder

Kalaron wrote:1) Just checked, was actually the wrong word I used. I meant Alienation.

2) Eh, considering the tie between you and PLR's nation I really wouldn't be that surprised if you joined CROSS in the event of a war or if tensions raised, tbh. I don't really care about what you do, don't know why you'd think I preferred it if you were.

1) Not even really alienation, for I would have given up on Vista's government and tried to replace it if I wanted to alienate them.

2) Ties that are not public, because everything is done through the IWA. . And it would make zero sense for me to join an anti-leftist right wing group when I'm literally making it my leader's highest priority to unite the left wing against the right. It's like me siding with BRICS in a war when I'm part of NATO. Just doesn't make sense at all.

Peoples Liberation Republic

Talkative Friedensriech wrote:1) Not even really alienation, for I would have given up on Vista's government and tried to replace it if I wanted to alienate them.

2) Ties that are not public, because everything is done through the IWA. . And it would make zero sense for me to join an anti-leftist right wing group when I'm literally making it my leader's highest priority to unite the left wing against the right. It's like me siding with BRICS in a war when I'm part of NATO. Just doesn't make sense at all.

What

"the state or experience of being isolated from a group or an activity to which one should belong or in which one should be involved."

Are you legitimately going to say that attempting to convince the international community not to associate with Vista isn't a case of alienation? What about Andy's people or attempting to get Axeldonia to not support Vista?

Maybe the scene is different now since I haven't really checked all that much tbh, but yeah that was using alienation of Vista's country to discourage them from the law they passed, man.

I'll admit to it not making sense, maybe, but then we've had similar cases before and I would argue that whether you officially support them or not is semantics.

If in a war you throw your support behind PLR -and thus support CROSS- through the IWA then I would argue that you're still technically a part of it on their side. However, I realize I maybe didn't make myself very clear with my first statement and that my second confused things even more.

Kalaron wrote:What

"the state or experience of being isolated from a group or an activity to which one should belong or in which one should be involved."

Are you legitimately going to say that attempting to convince the international community not to associate with Vista isn't a case of alienation? What about Andy's people or attempting to get Axeldonia to not support Vista?

Maybe the scene is different now since I haven't really checked all that much tbh, but yeah that was using alienation of Vista's country to discourage them from the law they passed, man.

I'll admit to it not making sense, maybe, but then we've had similar cases before and I would argue that whether you officially support them or not is semantics.

If in a war you throw your support behind PLR -and thus support CROSS- through the IWA then I would argue that you're still technically a part of it on their side. However, I realize I maybe didn't make myself very clear with my first statement and that my second confused things even more.

Supporting me does not mean Fried supports CROSS

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:Supporting me does not mean Fried supports CROSS

Supporting you in a war means that he is indirectly supporting CROSS, which I've already said and should quite frankly be common sense. It doesn't mean that he necessarily agrees with the rest of CROSS, but it most certainly is an indirect way of supporting them were war to occur.

Andromitus wrote:Is that an Æ I see? An Æ for Ændy?

*Britain Sweats Nervously*

> Mentions questions regarding PLR's bombing runs of Somalia

> Forgets primary argument

> Gets grumped at

> Fails to Grump in response, Loses Grump war

> PLR Continues bombing

> Natives are angry, PLR Cause is faltering

Ahhh thats what I wanted to say :3

Æ might honestly just be a placeholder.

Kalaron wrote:If in a war you throw your support behind PLR -and thus support CROSS- through the IWA then I would argue that you're still technically a part of it on their side. However, I realize I maybe didn't make myself very clear with my first statement and that my second confused things even more.

Kalaron wrote:Supporting you in a war means that he is indirectly supporting CROSS, which I've already said and should quite frankly be common sense. It doesn't mean that he necessarily agrees with the rest of CROSS, but it most certainly is an indirect way of supporting them were war to occur.

I will support these statements because, well, they're basic logic and common sense on how money and support works. However I will point out that should a conflict come were CROSS begins to bully Phoenix Concord or some leftist nation I doubt Fried would continue to "indirectly support" his efforts not least because the alliance includes a Theocrat and a Hyper-anticommunist nation that still calls itself "Empire" in 2018.

Onocarcass wrote:Æ might honestly just be a placeholder.

*Lips tremble*

Andromitus wrote:I will support these statements because, well, they're basic logic and common sense on how money and support works. However I will point out that should a conflict come were CROSS begins to bully Phoenix Concord or some leftist nation I doubt Fried would continue to "indirectly support" his efforts not least because the alliance includes a Theocrat and a Hyper-anticommunist nation that still calls itself "Empire" in 2018.

*Lips tremble*

It's just that it always looks kinda odd to me.

Onocarcass wrote:It's just that it always looks kinda odd to me.

Thats letterist; And I'm funding Ædenist rebels in your more oppressive provinces :P

Yukona

Andromitus wrote:Thats letterist; And I'm funding Ædenist rebels in your more oppressive provinces :P

That would be considered foreign interference, which would legally allow direct Federation action, and a swift end to the fighting.

Onocarcass wrote:That would be considered foreign interference, which would legally allow direct Federation action, and a swift end to the fighting.

I am an Ædenist Rebellion in the Federation

Andromitus wrote:I am an Ædenist Rebellion in the Federation

And where do you operate? If you're trying to avoid Federation action, then you need to be registered.

Kalaron wrote:Supporting you in a war means that he is indirectly supporting CROSS, which I've already said and should quite frankly be common sense. It doesn't mean that he necessarily agrees with the rest of CROSS, but it most certainly is an indirect way of supporting them were war to occur.

No. It does not because this is not a CROSS sanctioned action.

Onocarcass wrote:And where do you operate? If you're trying to avoid Federation action, then you need to be registered.

With what I know, I'd say Xiinjok, Ryskikk, Qinjan, Zeptov, Pyrth and or anywhere the Kaltkyn Party operates.

Andromitus wrote:With what I know, I'd say Xiinjok, Ryskikk, Qinjan, Zeptov, Pyrth and or anywhere the Kaltkyn Party operates.

Oh I see, you picked based on GDP, and not necessarily where they lie Right to Left.

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:No. It does not because this is not a CROSS sanctioned action.

That has literally zero relevance to whether it indirectly supports them or not. That's like saying that the US doesn't benefit from SAD missions because it doesn't officially sanction them or acknowledged they exist, but it's worse because in this case sanctioning it means even less because they have [B]zero[/B] direct influence on what Fried does with you.

If in WW2 the US couldn't bring themselves to help the Russians but provided materials to Britain, then they have supported the Allies regardless and that's discounting if Britain used said supplies to strengthen the Russians. Every iota of support you receive in a war from a supporting country frees up a comparative iota of internal effort you can divert to the war effort and thus strengthen your front in said war.

Exactly like Andy said:

Andromitus wrote: they're basic logic and common sense on how money and support works.

Onocarcass wrote:Oh I see, you picked based on GDP, and not necessarily where they lie Right to Left.

I had limited time I didn't know you had an ideological spectrum already in place, if I had known that I would've used it lol; Lemme pick again XD

Andromitus wrote:I had limited time I didn't know you had an ideological spectrum already in place, if I had known that I would've used it lol; Lemme pick again XD

lol

Andromitus wrote:I had limited time I didn't know you had an ideological spectrum already in place, if I had known that I would've used it lol; Lemme pick again XD

Or did you mean that geographically? Because I'm trying to find Ideological markers and am having trouble :3

THEY CHANGED THE FONT SIZE ON PRETITLES AND IT'S IRRITATING

Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Unfallious wrote:THEY CHANGED THE FONT SIZE ON PRETITLES AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL!

I know right!

Andromitus wrote:Or did you mean that geographically? Because I'm trying to find Ideological markers and am having trouble :3

I think I may have deleted that factbook while I worked on a better version.

I think I still have that map lying around on my computer though :p

Percyton

Andromitus wrote:Or did you mean that geographically? Because I'm trying to find Ideological markers and am having trouble :3

This shows the provinces based on their left to rightness. Blue - Green - Yellow - Orange - Red

http://i.imgur.com/M6T6V01.png

And the shows how borders should be drawn based on ethnic lines.

http://i.imgur.com/1dGYFcA.png

Percyton

Kalaron wrote:That has literally zero relevance to whether it indirectly supports them or not. That's like saying that the US doesn't benefit from SAD missions because it doesn't officially sanction them or acknowledged they exist, but it's worse because in this case sanctioning it means even less because they have [B]zero[/B] direct influence on what Fried does with you.

If in WW2 the US couldn't bring themselves to help the Russians but provided materials to Britain, then they have supported the Allies regardless and that's discounting if Britain used said supplies to strengthen the Russians. Every iota of support you receive in a war from a supporting country frees up a comparative iota of internal effort you can divert to the war effort and thus strengthen your front in said war.

Exactly like Andy said:

Actually it does makes sense. Unlike other organizations, CROSS cherishes national sovereignty and choice. Supporting one of us does not mean you support the entirety of the organization just as how members of CROSS as a whole does not need to engage into a conflict unless one of us is attacked or it is unanimously voted. So it makes sense. Your assumptions are wrong so stop. It is in our charter. Supporting me does not support CROSS. End of story.

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:Actually it does makes sense. Unlike other organizations, CROSS cherishes national sovereignty and choice. Supporting one of us does not mean you support the entirety of the organization just as how members of CROSS as a whole does not need to engage into a conflict unless one of us is attacked or it is unanimously voted. So it makes sense. Your assumptions are wrong so stop. It is in our charter. Supporting me does not support CROSS. End of story.

Honestly that sounds exactly like Concord in every way. Just an observation.

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:Unlike other organizations, CROSS cherishes national sovereignty and choice.

Like that time when you all unanimously invaded me to take my Canal for your own!

Andromitus wrote:Like that time when you all unanimously invaded me to take my Canal for your own!

I believe he means for member nations. You weren't one, so we didn't care.

Andromitus wrote:Like that time when you all unanimously invaded me to take my Canal for your own!

Well I didn't vote on it and I had no interest in invading you. I wasn't active as much

Tserra wrote:Honestly that sounds exactly like Concord in every way. Just an observation.

Cool story

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:Actually it does makes sense. Unlike other organizations, CROSS cherishes national sovereignty and choice. Supporting one of us does not mean you support the entirety of the organization just as how members of CROSS as a whole does not need to engage into a conflict unless one of us is attacked or it is unanimously voted. So it makes sense. Your assumptions are wrong so stop. It is in our charter. Supporting me does not support CROSS. End of story.

Saying something, unsurprisingly, doesn't make it true whatsoever and neither does saying "End of story" actually end the debate.

Let me rephrase it what I was saying:

In a war, by supporting you, Fried is allowing for you to have a stronger presence on a battlefield and furthermore allowing for you to draw down more of the enemies resources.

This^ by virtue of freeing up your industrial/economic/logistical strength, is an indirect act of supporting CROSS in a war.

If I have fifty muffins and CROSS's goal is to take said muffins and you can normally carry six muffins but Fried hates your friends but gives you a wheel barrow so you can instead take forty while they try to take six, he has supported CROSS's goal. This is literally the simplest situation I can break it down into.

Kalaron wrote:Saying something, unsurprisingly, doesn't make it true whatsoever and neither does saying "End of story" actually end the debate.

Let me rephrase it what I was saying:

In a war, by supporting you, Fried is allowing for you to have a stronger presence on a battlefield and furthermore allowing for you to draw down more of the enemies resources.

This^ by virtue of freeing up your industrial/economic/logistical strength, is an indirect act of supporting CROSS in a war.

If I have fifty muffins and CROSS's goal is to take said muffins and you can normally carry six muffins but Fried hates your friends but gives you a wheel barrow so you can instead take forty while they try to take six, he has supported CROSS's goal. This is literally the simplest situation I can break it down into.

What kind of muffins?

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:Cool story

Top Kek. Did you know floop florp?

The Empire Of Handland wrote:What kind of muffins?

^That is the right question. Muffins are boss.

The Empire Of Handland, Kalaron, Yukona

The Empire Of Handland wrote:What kind of muffins?

Blue berry muffins.

The Empire Of Handland

Kalaron wrote:Blue berry muffins.

I want white chocolate cranberry muffins. Accommodate me.

Kalaron

The Empire Of Handland wrote:I believe he means for member nations. You weren't one, so we didn't care.

Oh so not Sovereignty; Hypocrisy!

Andromitus wrote:Oh so not Sovereignty; Hypocrisy!

Or like that time when you barred me from joining because I was a democracy; Then allowed several Democracies to Join; Hypocrisy!

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:Cool story

Also. Cool story bro.

Kalaron wrote:Blue berry muffins.

But I want banana nut...

Yukona

The Empire Of Handland wrote:But I want banana nut...

Ok look. You had me at your love of muffins, but....banana nut? Come on bro....not banana nut....

The new flag of Dyota-Metura

http://i.imgur.com/ULALm1z.png

Tserra wrote:Ok look. You had me at your love of muffins, but....banana nut? Come on bro....not banana nut....

Just shut up and eat your muffin. We'll look for blueberry on the next raid.

Andromitus wrote:Oh so not Sovereignty; Hypocrisy!

Andromitus wrote:Or like that time when you barred me from joining because I was a democracy; Then allowed several Democracies to Join; Hypocrisy!

Or we barred you because you're Andy

The Empire Of Handland wrote:Or we barred you because you're Andy

why'd you quote both if you're only going to rebuke one;

#HanderrHypocrisy

The Empire Of Handland wrote:Just shut up and eat your muffin. We'll look for blueberry on the next raid.

...fine...but I am not gonna be happy about it. :P

Andromitus wrote:why'd you quote both if you're only going to rebuke one;

#HanderrHypocrisy

Meant to do both but I'm doing some other stuff right now. #calmdownkiddo Here's your explanation for both:

1. We believe in sovereignty and will protect that if you're in the organization. You weren't, thusly, no f*cks were ever given about your sovereignty or canal. Also, you must have forgot a lot about this war. Mar wanted your canal. I wanted to burn you nation to the ground and salt the earth behind me.

2. Or we barred you because you're Andy.

TAGJaslandia

Pirate Kingdomes

Which one of you fellas own Perim Island?

http://i.imgur.com/bau03Rx.png

I would kinda like to make use of it. Lease it perhaps.

Jaslandia

Tserra wrote:TAGJaslandia

Pirate Kingdomes

Which one of you fellas own Perim Island?

http://i.imgur.com/bau03Rx.png

I would kinda like to make use of it. Lease it perhaps.

I assume I would own it, since it was historically last occupied by South Yemen (which would be within my territory), but we've never formally established who owns it in this region, and the island isn't on the map.

Jaslandia wrote:I assume I would own it, since it was historically last occupied by South Yemen (which would be within my territory), but we've never formally established who owns it in this region, and the island isn't on the map.

See I am wanting to turn the island into a fortress to protect the southern most portion of the Red Sea. Its honestly perfectly placed for such a task. Regardless, of my intentions for it, I would advise you do just that to the island. Its rare I see a place on a map and go, "D*mn, that is a prime peace of real estate.".

Jaslandia, United Continental States

Tserra wrote:See I am wanting to turn the island into a fortress to protect the southern most portion of the Red Sea. Its honestly perfectly placed for such a task. Regardless, of my intentions for it, I would advise you do just that to the island. Its rare I see a place on a map and go, "D*mn, that is a prime peace of real estate.".

I see. If it turns out I do own it, I could lease it to you, but I'm not sure how much good it would be; according to Wikipedia, it's just a small volcanic island, and it looks like even the current Yemen government isn't bothering with it. However, if I do lease it to you, you must promise never to use Perim Island to block or cut off trade in the Red Sea.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=peoples_liberation_republic/detail=factbook/id=866777 more added to Samsonian Republicanism (Radical Unitary Republicanism) that is setting into the PLRC

Moldegaard

I learned an interesting factoid yesterday. Britain and France almost merged together as one country in political union during WW2. It was rejected by the French Council of Ministers who thought it was a plot by the British to seize the French empire. The plans for union were drawn up out of desperation by France to fight off the Nazis.

One French minister said, "better to be a province of Nazi Germany."

Think of how differently history could have worked out.

Jaslandia, Kalaron, Penguania And Antarctica, United Continental States, Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth

Nuremgard wrote:I learned an interesting factoid yesterday. Britain and France almost merged together as one country in political union during WW2. It was rejected by the French Council of Ministers who thought it was a plot by the British to seize the French empire. The plans for union were drawn up out of desperation by France to fight off the Nazis.

One French minister said, "better to be a province of Nazi Germany."

Think of how differently history could have worked out.

Funny, I also read about it yesterday :p

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:I learned an interesting factoid yesterday. Britain and France almost merged together as one country in political union during WW2. It was rejected by the French Council of Ministers who thought it was a plot by the British to seize the French empire. The plans for union were drawn up out of desperation by France to fight off the Nazis.

One French minister said, "better to be a province of Nazi Germany."

Think of how differently history could have worked out.

This is the one, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-British_Union#World_War_II_.281940.29

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica

Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:Funny, I also read about it yesterday :p

On Hotmail news?

Jaslandia wrote:This is the one, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-British_Union#World_War_II_.281940.29

Aye that's it.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Am I the only one who noticed that the number of Nations within two days decreased by 8???? Most CTEd....

Penguania And Antarctica

Cesorion wrote:Am I the only one who noticed that the number of Nations within two days decreased by 8???? Most CTEd....

They were all my puppets for the inevitable day where the strong shall conquer the weak and I declare myself Il Dooshe.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Yukona wrote:They were all my puppets for the inevitable day where the strong shall conquer the weak and I declare myself Il Dooshe.

Oookk. Can't actually tell if you're joking or not...

Jaslandia

Cesorion wrote:Oookk. Can't actually tell if you're joking or not...

Well I am a doosh and I do have puppets, so your guess is as good as mine :^/

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

A new chain issue. Yay!

Saint Petersburggate

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Solla Ultima

We welcome Cesorion to the ISC community, if you would like to join as well, please telegram this nation.

Jaslandia, Andromitus, Cesorion, South Hyder

Hey everyone. Interested in tanks?

Russkov Soviet

Cesorion wrote:Hey everyone. Interested in tanks?

Are you on the Map and or in RP's?

Cesorion wrote:Hey everyone. Interested in tanks?

Hey, so I don't want to seem rude, but I've noticed some people do stuff like this and I want to hopefully avoid it in the future.

Please don't claim every RL tank/plane/warship or the majority of any of them. It's fine enough to claim one (though anyone can say they made the tank too and thus go around you) but it's a tad bit rude to just claim every last one of them. :D

Andromitus wrote:Are you on the Map and or in RP's?

I have sent the claim to Baxten. Currently waiting reply.

I am going to make the PLRC the mixture of an Autocratic USA, Tzarist Russia, and DPRK of our RP world but mostly DPRK. Samsonian Republicanism is basically the ideology that will convert the PLRC to something similar to the DPRK, pertaining to their government and the heightened elevation and rather divinity nature of the President, militarized society, Stalinistic propaganda, etc.

Nuremgard

Cesorion wrote:I have sent the claim to Baxten. Currently waiting reply.

Send it again to I believe [nation=short]Oelesa[/nation] who is the new Map Cartographer; Where are you planning on being?

Andromitus wrote:Send it again to I believe [nation=short]Oelesa[/nation] who is the new Map Cartographer; Where are you planning on being?

I'll fulfill the request.

Oelesa

Looks like the only thing that makes my home state of Virginia important, nationally, is when White Supremacists run people over.

Oelesa, United Continental States

Onocarcass wrote:Looks like the only thing that makes my home state of Virginia important, nationally, is when White Supremacists run people over.

Horrible thing to happen.

Onocarcass wrote:Looks like the only thing that makes my home state of Virginia important, nationally, is when White Supremacists run people over.

You should start a party called "The Don't Drive F*cking Cars into People Party" that promotes diplomacy and talking over driving cars and into people.

Yukona wrote:You should start a party called "The Don't Drive F*cking Cars into People Party" that promotes diplomacy and talking over driving cars and into people.

I don't think diplomacy works on neo-Nazi psychopaths.

Kalaron wrote:Hey, so I don't want to seem rude, but I've noticed some people do stuff like this and I want to hopefully avoid it in the future.

Please don't claim every RL tank/plane/warship or the majority of any of them. It's fine enough to claim one (though anyone can say they made the tank too and thus go around you) but it's a tad bit rude to just claim every last one of them. :D

Let alone the infrastructure needed to produce all of those different kinds!

Jaslandia, Kalaron

Nuremgard wrote:I don't think diplomacy works on neo-Nazi psychopaths.

Who knows they negotiated well with Finland in WWII :^)

Yukona wrote:Who knows they negotiated well with Finland in WWII :^)

No diplomacy works better on Neo-Nazi's than a good Revolution

Yukona wrote:Who knows they negotiated well with Finland in WWII :^)

I don't know enough about WW2 to get that reference lol

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