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The Chancellor's Public Schedule [I]3 April 2018

(All times Eastern. Subject to change.)

10:00 The Chancellor holds his weekly conference with the Minister of Foreign Affairs

18:00 The Chancellor releases his weekly address

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Just for your information: In Germany if you had your driving exam on automatic car your are just allowed to drive those. If you had it in a manual car then you are allowed to drive manual and automatic. If you decide you want to drive manual but just have an automatic license you have to take another couple of driving lessons and do another driving exam.

Kalaron, Lex Caledonia, Percyton

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Just for your information: In Germany if you had your driving exam on automatic car your are just allowed to drive those. If you had it in a manual car then you are allowed to drive manual and automatic. If you decide you want to drive manual but just have an automatic license you have to take another couple of driving lessons and do another driving exam.

Makes sense IMO.

Penguania And Antarctica

I have been blessed with his All-powerful Cat Awesomeness! The Holy Card of Confederacy Of Free Nations has been bequithed to me!

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

https://www.isidewith.com/profile/3439168757/ballot/2020-presidential

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What am I even because I feel like I'm every ideology at once now

Jaslandia

Kalaron wrote:https://www.isidewith.com/profile/3439168757/ballot/2020-presidential

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What am I even because I feel like I'm every ideology at once now

Some of the people listed as potential candidates for 2020 are bizarre too. People like Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, and John Kasich I can understand. But Oprah? We can't seriously be that far gone, can we? I didn't know Ben Shapiro was even interested in running, and even if he was, you need a lot more experience than just a political commentator to be the most powerful person in the land. And Ron Paul? The guy is freaking 82! Even if you agree with the guy, I think it's time for him to retire and spend some time with his grandchildren instead of running for high office.

Jaslandia wrote:Ron Paul? The guy is freaking 82! Even if you agree with the guy, I think it's time for him to retire and spend some time with his grandchildren instead of running for high office.

Shouldn't old age disqualify Bernie too? He'll be 78 in 2020.

Mercunova wrote:Shouldn't old age disqualify Bernie too? He'll be 78 in 2020.

True, and the age thing is probably the biggest thing that might keep me from voting for Bernie if he runs in 2020. But that's still much younger than Ron Paul (who would be be 85 in 2020), and Bernie may have a stronger case for running due to having more popular support than Paul.

Jaslandia wrote:True, and the age thing is probably the biggest thing that might keep me from voting for Bernie if he runs in 2020. But that's still much younger than Ron Paul (who would be be 85 in 2020), and Bernie may have a stronger case for running due to having more popular support than Paul.

So? If Bernie were elected twice he'd be 86 at the end.

Senility and reduction of bodily functions can set in just as quickly at 78 and 85. There's not a huge difference between the two. Both Ron and Bernie seem to be in better shape than relatives of mine who are younger. Also, Reagan was younger than both for the entire duration of his tenure in office and it's a not-so-well-kept-secret that he was already starting to lose his mind and body, little by little, by the end of his term.

Jaslandia wrote:Some of the people listed as potential candidates for 2020 are bizarre too. People like Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, and John Kasich I can understand. But Oprah? We can't seriously be that far gone, can we? I didn't know Ben Shapiro was even interested in running, and even if he was, you need a lot more experience than just a political commentator to be the most powerful person in the land. And Ron Paul? The guy is freaking 82! Even if you agree with the guy, I think it's time for him to retire and spend some time with his grandchildren instead of running for high office.

To be fair, I think that the isidewith people are just trying to account for every eventuality. Oprah did get that speculation after the Golden Globes about running for President, and I'm sure Ben Shapiro has his fans that would love for him to run. Honestly, if Oprah ran, I'd find it hard to believe that she'd lose despite her lack of political experience.

Jaslandia, Mercunova

Mercunova wrote:Shouldn't old age disqualify Bernie too? He'll be 78 in 2020.

Considering his age was a huge concern in the last election, including in his own base, I'd say the worries about his age are only going to get bigger as time goes on. It's why a lot of people pushed for him to pick a younger candidate for VP as it would be extra insurance for the next 4-8 years.

Jaslandia, Mercunova

Sulania wrote:Considering his age was a huge concern in the last election, including in his own base, I'd say the worries about his age are only going to get bigger as time goes on. It's why a lot of people pushed for him to pick a younger candidate for VP as it would be extra insurance for the next 4-8 years.

Idk if "extra insurance" would be the correct phrase given his beliefs and policies, but agreed on the rest. :P

Jaslandia wrote:Some of the people listed as potential candidates for 2020 are bizarre too. People like Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, and John Kasich I can understand. But Oprah? We can't seriously be that far gone, can we? I didn't know Ben Shapiro was even interested in running, and even if he was, you need a lot more experience than just a political commentator to be the most powerful person in the land. And Ron Paul? The guy is freaking 82! Even if you agree with the guy, I think it's time for him to retire and spend some time with his grandchildren instead of running for high office.

Ron Perlman for President, 2020

Jaslandia

Chernarus State wrote:Ron Perlman for President, 2020

Ross Perot 2020

Jaslandia, Vista Major

Mercunova wrote:So? If Bernie were elected twice he'd be 86 at the end.

Senility and reduction of bodily functions can set in just as quickly at 78 and 85. There's not a huge difference between the two. Both Ron and Bernie seem to be in better shape than relatives of mine who are younger. Also, Reagan was younger than both for the entire duration of his tenure in office and it's a not-so-well-kept-secret that he was already starting to lose his mind and body, little by little, by the end of his term.

Perhaps, but by that standard, if Ron Paul is elected twice, he'd be 94 by the end of his term. Now THAT is old, and if Hell freezes over and become a ski resort and Ron Paul becomes President, then I'm not even sure if he'd be able to run for a second term, since he'd already be nearly 90 when he comes up for reelection in 2024.

Bearlong wrote:To be fair, I think that the isidewith people are just trying to account for every eventuality. Oprah did get that speculation after the Golden Globes about running for President, and I'm sure Ben Shapiro has his fans that would love for him to run. Honestly, if Oprah ran, I'd find it hard to believe that she'd lose despite her lack of political experience.

True, although that's likely because she'd be running against Trump, and Trump is a pretty low bar. If Oprah was running against, say, John Kasich, it might be different.

Sulania wrote:Considering his age was a huge concern in the last election, including in his own base, I'd say the worries about his age are only going to get bigger as time goes on. It's why a lot of people pushed for him to pick a younger candidate for VP as it would be extra insurance for the next 4-8 years.

Unfortunately, though, a lot of Bernie-minded people are also pretty old. Elizabeth Warren would be 71 in 2020, Joe Biden would be 78. The only (relatively) young one is Kamala Harris, and I'm not sure if she's as strong of a candidate as Bernie, Warren, or Biden.

Jaslandia wrote:Perhaps, but by that standard, if Ron Paul is elected twice, he'd be 94 by the end of his term. Now THAT is old, and if Hell freezes over and become a ski resort and Ron Paul becomes President, then I'm not even sure if he'd be able to run for a second term, since he'd already be nearly 90 when he comes up for reelection in 2024.

I never said Ron Paul should run, Jas. I only said that if Ron Paul shouldn't run then neither should Bernie.

Mercunova wrote:I never said Ron Paul should run, Jas. I only said that if Ron Paul shouldn't run then neither should Bernie.

Alright. I see your point.

Jaslandia wrote:Unfortunately, though, a lot of Bernie-minded people are also pretty old. Elizabeth Warren would be 71 in 2020, Joe Biden would be 78. The only (relatively) young one is Kamala Harris, and I'm not sure if she's as strong of a candidate as Bernie, Warren, or Biden.

I'll probably end up voting Warren in the election, if it were held today, we'll have to see who pulls themselves out of the woodworks in 2019 to run for 2020.

Imo, it's too early to be overly concerned about who's going to be the President as we don't really know who is and isn't running seriously yet.

Jaslandia

Sulania wrote:I'll probably end up voting Warren in the election, if it were held today, we'll have to see who pulls themselves out of the woodworks in 2019 to run for 2020.

Imo, it's too early to be overly concerned about who's going to be the President as we don't really know who is and isn't running seriously yet.

That's true. We don't have any major announced candidates, and it's possible someone could pull an Obama and rise from relative obscurity to become the nominee. Plus, a lot of things could happen between now and November 2020, especially with how volatile this administration has been.

Please endorse me or nothing bad will happen to you in relation to me.

Russkov Soviet, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova, Percyton

http://thecoffincofn.boards.net/thread/73/gods-men-mythology-rp-ooc?page=1&scrollTo=753

So I've decided to join the god-rp thingy

You'll never guess what I made.

Vista Major

I'd like to say that everyone in this region is great and the fifth person to endorse me will receive my legendary Nuremgard card.

Nuremgard, Unfallious, Vista Major, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

everyone who endorses gualimole gets a biiig wiener

no lies

Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Gualimole

Axeldonia wrote:everyone who endorses gualimole gets a biiig wiener

no lies

I prefer beef.

Jaslandia wrote:True, although that's likely because she'd be running against Trump, and Trump is a pretty low bar. If Oprah was running against, say, John Kasich, it might be different.

I'd honestly find it hard to believe that she'd lose, even to Kasich - though I admit he'd be better. Clearly you have more faith in the American electorate than I.

Jaslandia

Bearlong wrote:I'd honestly find it hard to believe that she'd lose, even to Kasich - though I admit he'd be better. Clearly you have more faith in the American electorate than I.

I almost lost if after 2016, but the fact Trump has consistently low approval ratings, plus big Democratic wins (or at least not-as-big-usual defeats) in special elections indicate the voters are punishing Trump. If the voters aren't happy with a celebrity president like Trump, they probably won't be happy with Oprah as a celebrity president either. I hope.

Jaslandia wrote:I almost lost if after 2016, but the fact Trump has consistently low approval ratings, plus big Democratic wins (or at least not-as-big-usual defeats) in special elections indicate the voters are punishing Trump. If the voters aren't happy with a celebrity president like Trump, they probably won't be happy with Oprah as a celebrity president either. I hope.

I don't really think that Americans have an issue with a celebrity president, more that we're still following the typical voting cycle where the President's party loses seats throughout the term. Even I'm pretty enamored with the idea of President Oprah, for a variety of reasons. At least she seems like the type to be willing to defer to experts rather than say whatever comes to her head at any given moment.

This raises an interesting research question: To what extent is the American presidency becoming more of a leader of American culture, rather than American policy? I don't really think I'd mind having a more culture-based president, so long as the experts are allowed to do their jobs. The Speaker of the House could easily fill the role of head policymaker in my view.

Jaslandia

Gualimole wrote:I'd like to say that everyone in this region is great and the fifth person to endorse me will receive my legendary Nuremgard card.

How about the third person to endorse you, plus 1 funbuck

Penguania And Antarctica

http://thecoffincofn.boards.net/thread/57/medieval-rp-ic?page=6&scrollTo=754

s p o o p

Unfallious wrote:How about the third person to endorse you, plus 1 funbuck

i thought endorsements were post likes and i just realised i'm dumb

Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

Bearlong wrote:I don't really think that Americans have an issue with a celebrity president, more that we're still following the typical voting cycle where the President's party loses seats throughout the term. Even I'm pretty enamored with the idea of President Oprah, for a variety of reasons. At least she seems like the type to be willing to defer to experts rather than say whatever comes to her head at any given moment.

This raises an interesting research question: To what extent is the American presidency becoming more of a leader of American culture, rather than American policy? I don't really think I'd mind having a more culture-based president, so long as the experts are allowed to do their jobs. The Speaker of the House could easily fill the role of head policymaker in my view.

I understand your point, but I don't think a culture-based leader is a path we should go down. It works for someone like the Queen of the UK or the President of Germany, who have no political power. But the United States president has actual power, and a decent amount of it, and I worry viewing the American presidency as simply cultural leadership would allow the President to enact policy without the public paying much attention. If we are going to shift to this kind of leadership style, then we should at least strip away the President's powers and move to a parliamentary style of government.

Gualimole wrote:I'd like to say that everyone in this region is great and the fifth person to endorse me will receive my legendary Nuremgard card.

I love that my country card is being used as a prize. *blushes*

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova, Percyton

Nuremgard wrote:I love that my country card is being used as a prize. *blushes*

With that attitude, you'll end up with someone that you're too good for.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Gualimole wrote:With that attitude, you'll end up with someone that you're too good for.

I'll just be amazed if any man will put up with me.

Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Nuremgard wrote:I'll just be amazed if any man will put up with me.

Exactly. This is why you'll end up with someone you're too good for. Believe in yourself. You're better than this.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Gualimole wrote:Exactly. This is why you'll end up with someone you're too good for. Believe in yourself. You're better than this.

Why thank you, kind sir.

Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Nuremgard wrote:Why thank you, kind sir.

You're welcome.

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Nuremgard wrote:I love that my country card is being used as a prize. *blushes*

You must be cause I've got two of you out of a single pack..

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:I understand your point, but I don't think a culture-based leader is a path we should go down. It works for someone like the Queen of the UK or the President of Germany, who have no political power. But the United States president has actual power, and a decent amount of it, and I worry viewing the American presidency as simply cultural leadership would allow the President to enact policy without the public paying much attention. If we are going to shift to this kind of leadership style, then we should at least strip away the President's powers and move to a parliamentary style of government.

I'd be completely in favor of that. (I've also noticeably shifted from UK to US English because college hates me)

Jaslandia, Percyton

Bearlong wrote:I'd be completely in favor of that. (I've also noticeably shifted from UK to US English because college hates me)

Yet the Presidency and the powers that come with it grows stronger every day through declarations of war without Congressional approval and executive orders with far-reaching consequences. Not only that, but the judiciary is starting to play a more prominent role in our government in order to resist the actions of the executive while Congress remains in a mostly inactive state with rare exceptions. If current trends continue, the US will essentially become an elective dictatorship with the President's power limited by the judiciary, term limits, and nothing else really. And this elected dictator won't even be chosen by the majority of the people because of the mess that the Electoral College brings forth that becomes worse every election cycle due to the increasing importance of the divide between rural and urban areas.

Gualimole wrote:Yet the Presidency and the powers that come with it grows stronger every day through declarations of war without Congressional approval and executive orders with far-reaching consequences. Not only that, but the judiciary is starting to play a more prominent role in our government in order to resist the actions of the executive while Congress remains in a mostly inactive state with rare exceptions. If current trends continue, the US will essentially become an elective dictatorship with the President's power limited by the judiciary, term limits, and nothing else really. And this elected dictator won't even be chosen by the majority of the people because of the mess that the Electoral College brings forth that becomes worse every election cycle due to the increasing importance of the divide between rural and urban areas.

I'm not sure if I've been misunderstood or if you just wanted to rant about the American government's sh*tty structure, so to clarify: I meant I was in favour of moving to a parliamentary style of government, not necessarily the other stuff.

someone take advantage of my generous offer on a merc card so i can have a full cabinet pls

Russkov Soviet, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

Bearlong wrote:I'm not sure if I've been misunderstood or if you just wanted to rant about the American government's sh*tty structure, so to clarify: I meant I was in favour of moving to a parliamentary style of government, not necessarily the other stuff.

I just wanted to rant about the American government's sh!tty structure.

Alruniea wrote:I knew as soon as you liked my comment you were gonna do this.

Duck: Why? Am I really that predictable?

Hank: In a way, yes. Not only because there isn't a lot you could have done with a one-word message, but also because you're always going on about 'the Great Western Way' and how great the Great Western was. I mean, I'm from the Pennsylvania Railroad and proud of it, but you don't hear me going on about 'the Pennsylvania Way'.

Duck: That can't be true. Surely I don't brag about the Great Western THAT much. After all, the Great Western Way is to be humble and... okay, I think I see your point. I'll try to cut back about my Great Western bragging.

Gordon: Sure, when diesels fly! You've been talking about the Great Western ever since you came here in '55, and you've never stopped.

Duck: Don't give me an attitude, Gordon, or else I'll keep reminding you about Paddington.

Gordon: Duck, we settled that long ago. The main London station is St. Pancras, and at any rate, we already found out that London has many stations.

Duck: Not that, Gordon.

Gordon: Then what about Paddington is worth talking about?

Duck: Oh, I don't know. Maybe the fact that my old station got a bear, a children's book series, and a movie series named after it? What movies has King's Cross been involved in, hmm?

Gordon: Well, uh... Harry Potter! The entrance to the Hogwarts Express station is at Platform 9 and 3/4, at King's Cross!

Duck: You want to talk Harry Potter, Gordon? The locomotive for the Hogwarts Express was a GWR engine! GWR Hall class 5972 Olton Hall, to be exact.

Gordon: Pah! He was only the second choice! The first choice was a Southern Railway West Country class!

Sir Topham Hatt: *pinches nose* I'm starting to really regret renting Harry Potter for Tidmouth Sheds movie night. Maybe next time I'll just put on reruns of The Office and call it a night.

Duck: The British version, not the American one!

Oliver: The American version is a classic!

Duck: A classic mockery of the original, more like!

Sir Topham Hatt: Oh, I give up!

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:

- 2007 – Conventional-Train World Speed Record: A French TGV train on the LGV Est high speed line sets an official new world speed record.

Spencer: Pah! TGVs aren't real trains anyway! The only record that counts is the steam locomotive record, and guess who holds that? That's right, my brother Mallard! And I've come pretty close to that record, if I do say so myself.

Pip: You should show some more respect for TGVs, Spencer. Me and Emma are friends with a few of them, and they do a lot of hard work every day. Can you say the same? It must be SO hard being a private engine and all, constantly having to carry around two people in a single coach. /sarcasm

Spencer: I've pulled regular trains too! What about the time I took the guests to Callan Castle for New Year's?

Pip: And you ended up taking the wrong coaches because you were in a vanity contest with Gordon? Yes, excellent example Spencer.

Spencer: I don't need this! The Duke and Duchess need me to take them back to their summerhouse!

Pip: Don't forget, your coach is the RED one, and it's at platform 2, not 1! You seemed to have forgotten that at one point.

Spencer: *angrily steams away*

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

For my idea of a new primary - what do you guys think about a Cambodian/Khmer nation? I think having an alternate history where the prosperity of the Angkor Empire continued would be awesome to look at having Khmer being the influential power in the region instead of India, China, Thailand or Vietnam. I don't think there are many Khmer nations on NS too.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

If 20 percent of this region's members hold 80 percent of the influence in this region, then the total amount of influence in this region would be 481297.5. Can someone check to see if this is accurate?

Just found out my sister lost the kid

Chernarus State wrote:Just found out my sister lost the kid

I am so sorry to hear that.

Yukona wrote:For my idea of a new primary - what do you guys think about a Cambodian/Khmer nation? I think having an alternate history where the prosperity of the Angkor Empire continued would be awesome to look at having Khmer being the influential power in the region instead of India, China, Thailand or Vietnam. I don't think there are many Khmer nations on NS too.

I don't know any of the history surrounding that but sounds good.

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Yukona wrote:For my idea of a new primary - what do you guys think about a Cambodian/Khmer nation? I think having an alternate history where the prosperity of the Angkor Empire continued would be awesome to look at having Khmer being the influential power in the region instead of India, China, Thailand or Vietnam. I don't think there are many Khmer nations on NS too.

I don't think even a Khmer Empire could be more pwerful than China or India, but they'd still be a major power in Asia, and it would be an interesting idea. I say go for it!

Chernarus State wrote:Just found out my sister lost the kid

That's terrible, UCT! I'm so sorry to hear that! My condolences to you, your sister, and your family.

Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1002766

Your thoughts guys?

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

Gualimole wrote:If 20 percent of this region's members hold 80 percent of the influence in this region, then the total amount of influence in this region would be 481297.5. Can someone check to see if this is accurate?

It's Spring Break. Brain = fried

Jaslandia

Vista Major wrote:It's Spring Break. Brain = fried

Which is why you need to engage yourself in these silly activities to prevent yourself from going insane. There's a certain madness to humanity that makes us do these types of things.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/93/Human_evolution_chart-en.svg/2000px-Human_evolution_chart-en.svg.png

Vista Major wrote:It's Spring Break. Brain = fried

... who tf has Spring Break in April?

Jaslandia

Bearlong wrote:... who tf has Spring Break in April?

People whose schools operate on a year-round system usually have longer breaks before Summer Break.

Gualimole wrote:People whose schools operate on a year-round system usually have longer breaks before Summer Break.

I recognise the logic around a year-round system. That doesn't mean that I like the idea though

Gualimole wrote:People whose schools operate on a year-round system usually have longer breaks before Summer Break.

No, no. We're not year-round.

Yet.

Bearlong wrote:... who tf has Spring Break in April?

Chesterfield.

Gualimole

Russkov Soviet wrote:I have been blessed with his All-powerful Cat Awesomeness! The Holy Card of Confederacy Of Free Nations has been bequithed to me!

I got that card too. :D

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Vista Major

[spoiler=Today is April 4 and today are:]

Today is April 4 and today are:

- Bonza Bottler Day

- Childhelp National Day of Hope

- Children's Day (Hong Kong, Taiwan)

- D.A.R.E. Day

- Independence Day (Senegal)

- International Carrot Day

- International Day for Mine Awareness and Assistance in Mine Action

- Jeep 4×4 Day

- National Chicken Cordon Bleu Day (United States)

- National Hug a Newsperson Day (United States)

- National School Librarian Day (United States)

- National Walk Around Things Day (United States)

- National Walking Day (United States)

- Paraprofessional Appreciation Day

- Peace Day (Angola)

- Tell a Lie Day

- Victims of Violence Holy Day

- Vitamin C Day

- World Rat Day

[/spoiler]

[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 503BC – Roman consul Agrippa Menenius Lanatus celebrated a triumph for a military victory over the Sabines.

- 1147 – First historical record of Moscow.

- 1287 – King Wareru founds the Ramanya Kingdom, and proclaims independence from the Pagan Kingdom.

- 1581 – Francis Drake is knighted for completing a circumnavigation of the world.

- 1660 – Declaration of Breda by King Charles II of Great Britain.

- 1721 – Sir Robert Walpole becomes the first British prime minister.

- 1768 – In London, Philip Astley stages the first modern circus.

- 1796 – Georges Cuvier delivers the first paleontological lecture.

- 1812 – United States President James Madison enacts a ninety-day embargo on trade with the United Kingdom.

- 1814 – Napoleon abdicates for the first time and names his son Napoleon II as Emperor of the French.

- 1818 – The United States Congress adopts the flag of the United States with 13 red and white stripes and one star for each state (then 20).

- 1841 – William Henry Harrison dies of pneumonia, becoming the first President of the United States to die in office, and setting the record for the briefest administration.

- 1850 – A large part of the English village of Cottenham burns to the ground in suspicious circumstances.

- 1850 – Los Angeles is incorporated as a city.

- 1859 – Bryant's Minstrels debut "Dixie" in New York City in the finale of a blackface minstrel show.

- 1865 – American Civil War: A day after Union forces capture Richmond, Virginia, U.S. President Abraham Lincoln visits the Confederate capital.

- 1866 – Alexander II of Russia narrowly escapes an assassination attempt by Dmitry Karakozov in the city of Saint Petersburg.

- 1873 – The Kennel Club is founded, the oldest and first official registry of purebred dogs in the world.

- 1887 – Argonia, Kansas elects Susanna M. Salter as the first female mayor in the United States.

- 1905 – In India, an earthquake hits the Kangra Valley, killing 20,000, and destroying most buildings in Kangra, McLeod Ganj and Dharamsala.

- 1913 – First Balkan War: Greek aviator Emmanouil Argyropoulos becomes the first pilot to die in the Hellenic Air Force when his plane crashes.

- 1925 – The Schutzstaffel (SS) is founded in Germany.

- 1933 – U.S. Navy airship, USS Akron, is wrecked off the New Jersey coast due to severe weather.

- 1939 – Faisal II becomes King of Iraq.

- 1944 – World War II: First bombardment of oil refineries in Bucharest by Anglo-American forces kills 3000 civilians.

- 1945 – World War II: American troops liberate Ohrdruf forced labor camp in Germany.

- 1945 – World War II: American troops capture Kassel.

- 1945 – World War II: Soviet troops liberate Hungary from German occupation and occupy the country itself.

- 1949 – Twelve nations sign the North Atlantic Treaty creating the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

- 1958 – The CND peace symbol is displayed in public for the first time in London.

- 1960 – France agrees to grant independence to the Mali Federation, a union of Senegal and French Sudan.

- 1964 – The Beatles occupy the top five positions on the Billboard Hot 100 pop chart.

- 1965 – The first model of the new Saab Viggen fighter aircraft is unveiled.

- 1967 – Martin Luther King Jr. delivers his "Beyond Vietnam: A Time to Break Silence" speech in New York City's Riverside Church.

- 1968 – Martin Luther King Jr. is assassinated by James Earl Ray at a motel in Memphis, Tennessee.

- 1968 – Apollo program: NASA launches Apollo 6.

- 1968 – A.E.K. Athens B.C. becomes the first Greek team to win the European Basketball Cup.

- 1969 – Dr. Denton Cooley implants the first temporary artificial heart.

- 1973 – The World Trade Center in New York is officially dedicated.

- 1973 – A Lockheed C-141 Starlifter, dubbed the Hanoi Taxi, makes the last flight of Operation Homecoming.

- 1975 – Microsoft is founded as a partnership between Bill Gates and Paul Allen in Albuquerque, New Mexico

- 1975 – A United States Air Force Lockheed C-5A Galaxy transporting orphans, crashes near Saigon, South Vietnam shortly after takeoff, killing 172 people.

- 1976 – Prince Norodom Sihanouk resigns as leader of Cambodia and is placed under house arrest.

- 1979 – Prime Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto of Pakistan is executed.

- 1981 – The Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force mounts an attack on H-3 Airbase and destroys about 50 Iraqi aircraft.

- 1983 – Space Shuttle Challenger makes its maiden voyage into space.

- 1984 – President Ronald Reagan calls for an international ban on chemical weapons.

- 1988 – Governor Evan Mecham of Arizona is convicted in his impeachment trial and removed from office.

- 1991 – Senator John Heinz of Pennsylvania and six others are killed when a helicopter collides with their airplane over an elementary school in Merion, Pennsylvania.

- 1991 – The current flag of Hong Kong is adopted for post-colonial Hong Kong during the Third Session of the Seventh National People's Congress.

- 1994 – Marc Andreessen and Jim Clark found Netscape Communications Corporation under the name Mosaic Communications Corporation.

- 1996 – Comet Hyakutake is imaged by the USA Asteroid Orbiter Near Earth Asteroid Rendezvous.

- 2002 – The Angolan government and UNITA rebels sign a peace treaty ending the Angolan Civil War.

- 2013 – More than 70 people are killed in a building collapse in Thane, India.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 0188 – Caracalla, Roman emperor

- 1646 – Antoine Galland, French orientalist and archaeologist

- 1785 – Bettina von Arnim, German author, illustrator, and composer

- 1875 – Pierre Monteux, Sephardic Jewish French-American viola player and conductor

- 1922 – Elmer Bernstein, American composer and conductor

- 1928 – Maya Angelou, American memoirist and poet

- 1932 – Andrei Tarkovsky, Russian director and producer

- 1932 – Anthony Perkins, American actor

- 1952 – Gary Moore, Northern Irish singer-songwriter, guitarist, and producer

- 1965 – Robert Downey Jr., American actor, producer, and screenwriter

- 1972 – Bastian Pastewka, German actor and comedian

- 1979 – Heath Ledger, Australian actor

- 1979 – Roberto Luongo, Canadian ice hockey player

- 1987 – Sami Khedira, German footballer

[/spoiler]

Quote of the day

The foundation of every state is the education of its youth.

- Diogenes (Greek Philosopher, 412BC-323BC) -

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Bearlong wrote:... who tf has Spring Break in April?

All the schools I've ever been to have had a Winter Break in February and a Spring Break in April. Though usually Spring break for us is around two weeks from now. The state likes to schedule them at a different time than the other states for some reason

Au Minbo wrote:All the schools I've ever been to have had a Winter Break in February and a Spring Break in April. Though usually Spring break for us is around two weeks from now. The state likes to schedule them at a different time than the other states for some reason

Who tf has a winter break in February? I thought it was standard to have it over the New Year? Do you seriously go to school on 1 January?

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

Bearlong wrote:Who tf has a winter break in February? I thought it was standard to have it over the New Year? Do you seriously go to school on 1 January?

I concur. What about Christmas?

Had a friend of mine design my current flag. Any criticisms for him?

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

Russkov Soviet wrote:Had a friend of mine design my current flag. Any criticisms for him?

Nope. I like it.

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Please Vote

https://www.strawpoll.me/15438916

Vista Major

Bearlong wrote:Who tf has a winter break in February? I thought it was standard to have it over the New Year? Do you seriously go to school on 1 January?

My bf is a teacher, and they have a crazy amount of breaks.

A week off in October, two and a half weeks off in December/early January, a week off in February, a week off in April, and the school year concludes half way through June before starting again on the second week of September.

And then every second week, there is an additional day or a half day off for “personal development”.

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova

Bearlong wrote:Who tf has a winter break in February? I thought it was standard to have it over the New Year? Do you seriously go to school on 1 January?

The break that goes over New Year is a part of Christmas break. Starts about a week before Christmas and ends usually the day after New Year. In my college though it starts same time but ends around mid January

Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova

Au Minbo wrote:The break that goes over New Year is a part of Christmas break. Starts about a week before Christmas and ends usually the day after New Year. In my college though it starts same time but ends around mid January

In total we have 6 school breaks. Summer, October (Around first week of October), Thanksgiving, Christmas, Winter, Spring.

Penguania And Antarctica

Au Minbo wrote:In total we have 6 school breaks. Summer, October (Around first week of October), Thanksgiving, Christmas, Winter, Spring.

Do you get a week off for Thanksgiving?

Penguania And Antarctica

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Do you get a week off for Thanksgiving?

Not a full week, but like 5 days or so including the weekend

Penguania And Antarctica

The US Energy Association tweeted about an upcoming Baltic Summit and included a picture of a political map of the Baltic Sea. The map is from 1923. I'm getting the feeling like no one pays attention in school anymore

https://i.redd.it/yvlnhl88pwp01.png

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

Au Minbo wrote:The US Energy Association tweeted about an upcoming Baltic Summit and included a picture of a political map of the Baltic Sea. The map is from 1923. I'm getting the feeling like no one pays attention in school anymore

https://i.redd.it/yvlnhl88pwp01.png

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On a more historically accurate note:

Happy Community Day!

Jaslandia, Au Minbo, Penguania And Antarctica, Midasia

Vista Major wrote:On a more historically accurate note:

Happy Community Day!

Are you telling me that that is not what the border looks like today?

#FreeDanzig

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

Au Minbo wrote:Are you telling me that that is not what the border looks like today?

#FreeDanzig

F R E I

D A N Z I G

J E T Z T !

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Midasia

This is the DCCC's plan for the midterms:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPTB7-ecDC8

Jaslandia

!!!ATTENTION!!!

CRUSADER KINGS II is FOR FREE on STEAM !!

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Au Minbo, Vista Major, Axeldonia, Lex Caledonia, Midasia

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:!!!ATTENTION!!!

CRUSADER KINGS II is FOR FREE on STEAM !!

Finally we can recreate the fantasy RP

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:!!!ATTENTION!!!

CRUSADER KINGS II is FOR FREE on STEAM !!

Hmmm.... I'll try it. (My PC is garbage tho)

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Midasia

Russkov Soviet wrote:Hmmm.... I'll try it. (My PC is garbage tho)

You're not alone, dearest child.

Russkov Soviet, Penguania And Antarctica

COMMUNITY DAY ACTIVITY

I encourage everyone, if they haven't already, to join one of our many roleplays! Right now, we have three roleplays open to everyone who wants to give their creative skills a shot. These RPs are:

Confederacy General: https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_confederacy_general

(Moderators: Kalaron & Chernarus State)

Calveris Alternis: http://thecoffincofn.boards.net/thread/57/medieval-rp-ic

(Moderator: Unfallious)

Of Gods and Men: http://thecoffincofn.boards.net/thread/74/gods-men-ic

(Moderator: Vista Major)

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia

@everyone(for sh*ts & giggles)

Pls gib me job, I need something to do as an RP mod

Penguania And Antarctica

Russkov Soviet wrote:Had a friend of mine design my current flag. Any criticisms for him?

It looks pretty nice if you ask me.

Gualimole wrote:This is the DCCC's plan for the midterms:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPTB7-ecDC8

And this was Republicans' strategy for the 2016 general election:

https://youtu.be/jjonGtrCyVE

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:!!!ATTENTION!!!

CRUSADER KINGS II is FOR FREE on STEAM !!

Thank you for the public service announcement, Peng! I've been meaning to try a Paradox game, but my only experience with Paradox is a free demo for CK2, which I found buggy and difficult to understand. Hopefully I'll have better luck with the full game.

For any current CK2 players, got any advice for a new player like me? For instance, which would be the best faction for someone who is new to both CL2 and to Paradox games in general?

Russkov Soviet, Penguania And Antarctica, Gualimole

Jaslandia wrote:It looks pretty nice if you ask me.

And this was Republicans' strategy for the 2016 general election:

https://youtu.be/jjonGtrCyVE

Thank you for the public service announcement, Peng! I've been meaning to try a Paradox game, but my only experience with Paradox is a free demo for CK2, which I found buggy and difficult to understand. Hopefully I'll have better luck with the full game.

For any current CK2 players, got any advice for a new player like me? For instance, which would be the best faction for someone who is new to both CL2 and to Paradox games in general?

Well, CK2 doesn't have factions so to speak. You control the dynasty around your main character. I would start with one of the Irish duchies. I prefered Munster. But you better ask Sulania for advice. He's an expert in that game.

Jaslandia

I wish you all a happy Community Day as your Minister of Justice.

But I wish you all a happy First Contact Day as a Star Trek fan. \\// LLAP

[spoiler=Today is April 5 and today are:]

Today is April 5 and today are:

- Arbor Day (South Korea)

- Cheng Ming Festival (Macau)

- Children's Day (Palestinian territories)

- Cold Food Festival (China)

- Community Day (The Confederacy Of Free Nations)

- First Contact Day (Star Trek fan community)

- Gold Star Wives Day

- International Fun at Work Day

- National Alcohol Screening Day (United States)

- National Burrito Day (United States)

- National Caramel Day (United States)

- National Dandelion Day (United States)

- National Deep Dish Pizza Day (United States)

- National Go For Broke Day (United States)

- National Nebraska Day (United States)

- National Raisin and Spice Bar Day (United States)

- National Read a Road Map Day (United States)

- Qing Ming Jie (China)

- Sikmogil (South Korea)

- Tomb Sweeping Day (Hong Kong, Taiwan)

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 0823 – Lothair I is crowned King of Italy by Pope Paschal I.

- 1081 – Alexios I Komnenos is crowned Byzantine emperor at Constantinople, bringing the Komnenian dynasty to full power.

- 1242 – During the Battle on the Ice of Lake Peipus, Russian forces, led by Alexander Nevsky, rebuff an invasion attempt by the Teutonic Knights.

- 1536 – Royal Entry of Charles V into Rome: The last Roman triumph.

- 1566 – Two-hundred Dutch noblemen, led by Hendrick van Brederode, force themselves into the presence of Margaret of Parma and present the Petition of Compromise, denouncing the Spanish Inquisition in the Seventeen Provinces.

- 1609 – Daimyo (Lord) Shimazu Tadatsune of the Satsuma Domain in southern Kyūshū, Japan, completes his successful invasion of the Ryūkyū Kingdom in Okinawa.

- 1614 – In Virginia, Native American Pocahontas marries English colonist John Rolfe.

- 1621 – The Mayflower sets sail from Plymouth, Massachusetts on a return trip to England.

- 1710 – The Statute of Anne receives the Royal Assent establishing the Copyright law of the United Kingdom.

- 1722 – The Dutch explorer Jacob Roggeveen discovers Easter Island.

- 1792 – United States President George Washington exercises his authority to veto a bill, the first time this power is used in the United States.

- 1795 – Peace of Basel between France and Prussia is made.

- 1818 – In the Battle of Maipú, Chile's independence movement, led by Bernardo O'Higgins and José de San Martín, win a decisive victory over Spain, leaving 2,000 Spaniards and 1,000 Chilean patriots dead.

- 1862 – American Civil War: The Battle of Yorktown begins.

- 1879 – Chile declares war on Bolivia and Peru, starting the War of the Pacific.

- 1900 – Archaeologists in Knossos, Crete, discover a large cache of clay tablets with hieroglyphic writing in a script they call Linear B.

- 1904 – The first international rugby league match is played between England and an Other Nationalities team (Welsh & Scottish players) in Central Park, Wigan, England.

- 1915 – Boxing challenger Jess Willard knocks out Jack Johnson in Havana, Cuba to become the Heavyweight Champion of the World.

- 1922 – The American Birth Control League, forerunner of Planned Parenthood, is incorporated.

- 1932 – Dominion of Newfoundland: Ten thousand rioters seize the Colonial Building leading to the end of self-government.

- 1933 – U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt signs two executive orders: 6101 to establish the Civilian Conservation Corps, and 6102 "forbidding the Hoarding of Gold Coin, Gold Bullion, and Gold Certificates" by U.S. citizens.

- 1936 – Tupelo–Gainesville tornado outbreak: An F5 tornado kills 233 in Tupelo, Mississippi.

- 1942 – World War II: The Imperial Japanese Navy launches a carrier-based air attack on Colombo, Ceylon during the Indian Ocean raid. Port and civilian facilities are damaged and the Royal Navy cruisers HMS Cornwall and HMS Dorsetshire are sunk southwest of the island.

- 1943 – World War II: American bomber aircraft accidentally cause more than 900 civilian deaths, including 209 children, and 1,300 wounded among the civilian population of the Belgian town of Mortsel. Their target was the Erla factory one kilometer from the residential area hit.

- 1944 – World War II: Two hundred seventy inhabitants of the Greek town of Kleisoura are executed by the Germans.

- 1945 – Cold War: Yugoslav leader Josip Broz Tito signs an agreement with the Soviet Union to allow "temporary entry of Soviet troops into Yugoslav territory".

- 1949 – A fire in a hospital in Effingham, Illinois, kills 77 people and leads to nationwide fire code improvements in the United States.

- 1951 – Ethel and Julius Rosenberg are sentenced to death for spying for the Soviet Union.

- 1956 – Fidel Castro declares himself at war with Cuban President Fulgencio Batista.

- 1956 – In Sri Lanka, the Mahajana Eksath Peramuna win the general elections in a landslide and S. W. R. D. Bandaranaike is sworn in as the Prime Minister of Ceylon.

- 1957 – In India, Communists win the first elections in united Kerala and E. M. S. Namboodiripad is sworn in as the first Chief Minister.

- 1958 – Ripple Rock, an underwater threat to navigation in the Seymour Narrows in Canada is destroyed in one of the largest non-nuclear controlled explosions of the time.

- 1969 – Vietnam War: Massive antiwar demonstrations occur in many U.S. cities.

- 1971 – In Sri Lanka, Janatha Vimukthi Peramuna launches a revolt against the United Front government of Sirimavo Bandaranaike.

- 1976 – In the People's Republic of China, the April Fifth Movement leads to the Tiananmen Incident.

- 1986 – Three people are killed in the bombing of the La Belle discotheque in West Berlin, Germany.

- 1991 – An ASA EMB 120 crashes in Brunswick, Georgia, killing all 23 aboard including Sen. John Tower and astronaut Sonny Carter.

- 1992 – Alberto Fujimori, president of Peru, dissolves the Peruvian congress by military force.

- 1992 – Peace protesters Suada Dilberovic and Olga Sučić are killed on the Vrbanja Bridge in Sarajevo, becoming the first casualties of the Bosnian War.

- 1998 – In Japan, the Akashi Kaikyō Bridge opens to traffic, becoming the longest bridge span in the world.

- 1999 – Two Libyans suspected of bringing down Pan Am Flight 103 in 1988 are handed over for eventual trial in the Netherlands.

- 2009 – North Korea launches its controversial Kwangmyŏngsŏng-2 rocket. The satellite passed over mainland Japan, which prompted an immediate reaction from the United Nations Security Council, as well as participating states of Six-party talks.

- 2010 – Twenty-nine coal miners are killed in an explosion at the Upper Big Branch Mine in West Virginia.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1588 – Thomas Hobbes, English philosopher

- 1804 – Matthias Jakob Schleiden, German botanist and co-founder of cell theory

- 1856 – Booker T. Washington, African-American educator, essayist and historian

- 1900 – Spencer Tracy, American actor

- 1908 – Herbert von Karajan, Austrian conductor and manager

- 1908 – Bette Davis, American actress

- 1909 – Albert R. Broccoli, American film producer, co-founded Eon Productions

- 1912 – John Le Mesurier, English actor

- 1916 – Gregory Peck, American actor, political activist, and producer

- 1917 – Robert Bloch, American author

- 1934 – Roman Herzog, German lawyer and politician, 7th President of Germany

- 1937 – Colin Powell, American general and politician, 65th United States Secretary of State

- 1950 – Agnetha Fältskog, Swedish singer-songwriter and producer (ABBA)

- 1955 – Akira Toriyama, Japanese illustrator

- 1973 – Pharrell Williams, American rapper, producer, and fashion designer

- 1978 – Franziska van Almsick, German swimmer

- 1979 – Timo Hildebrand, German footballer

[/spoiler]

Quote of the day

The strength of a civilization is not measured by its ability to fight wars, but rather by its ability to prevent them.

- Gene Roddenberry (American Producer, 1921-1991) -

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Penguania And Antarctica wrote:

- 1862 – American Civil War: The Battle of Yorktown begins.

https://youtu.be/WQt1RRW_xv0

Wait, wrong Battle of Yorktown.

Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:It looks pretty nice if you ask me.

And this was Republicans' strategy for the 2016 general election:

https://youtu.be/jjonGtrCyVE

Thank you for the public service announcement, Peng! I've been meaning to try a Paradox game, but my only experience with Paradox is a free demo for CK2, which I found buggy and difficult to understand. Hopefully I'll have better luck with the full game.

For any current CK2 players, got any advice for a new player like me? For instance, which would be the best faction for someone who is new to both CL2 and to Paradox games in general?

As Peng said, start in Ireland. In the CK2 community, we call this Beginners Island. In the base date, you're surrounded by counties/duchies of generally equal size and strength, so you get to experiment a little bit without too much consequence. It gives you a good opportunity to get a hang of controls and understanding the rules and everything, with you learning more as you begin expanding.

I'm assuming you don't have any DLCs?

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Sulania wrote:As Peng said, start in Ireland. In the CK2 community, we call this Beginners Island. In the base date, you're surrounded by counties/duchies of generally equal size and strength, so you get to experiment a little bit without too much consequence. It gives you a good opportunity to get a hang of controls and understanding the rules and everything, with you learning more as you begin expanding.

I'm assuming you don't have any DLCs?

Besides the South Indian Portraits that came with the free game, no, I don't have any DLCs at the moment.

Penguania And Antarctica

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:!!!ATTENTION!!!

CRUSADER KINGS II is FOR FREE on STEAM !!

Well fvck.

I paid for that.

Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:Besides the South Indian Portraits that came with the free game, no, I don't have any DLCs at the moment.

Alright, yeah, then start out in Ireland. Recommendation is Munster (Mumu) or Connacht, as they're on the far end of it and you don't have to worry all that much about Scotland or England.

You won't be able to play as any non-Christian kingdom or non-Feudal dynasty, without any dlc, so Ireland is just the best place to start overall.

For succession laws, you'll be limited to gavelkind for a while, so rush to get a duchy title and stick to one. Gavelkind splits your titles up among your heirs. So if you have two duchy titles, they'll be given to two different heirs, and your kingdom will be split down the middle (or worse if you have more heirs with more titles to divy up). So with gavelkind, only have one top title (Only have one duchy title if duke, one kingdom title of king). This also means that if you're a count, and have two counties and two heirs, you'll lose one to the other heir. So always shoot to get a title above count.

And generally, as a rule of thumb, stick to Agnatic-Cognatic. Absolute Cognatic will be closed off to you unless you meet certain religious/cultural criteria, and plus it makes the game harder if you have a female heir and you have to matrilineal marry (which closes off a lot of good marriage proposals). Absolute Agnatic makes it harder since you'll essentially have to relegate your title to another part of your dynasty if you have no male heirs (which is a pain because you'll generally have no control over who they married and what set up they have). Agnatic cognatic allows you to have male preference, with allowing a female heir when necessary.

And for Ireland players, try to make an ally of at least one other major Irish county, or ally with the Welsh. Generally the Scottish crown is a bit chaotic, and it's very easy to lose your marital alliance with them because some rebellion removed the king that you had this alliance with. Individual Scottish counties/duchies are fine, but they're a bit far away, so it's just better to ally with with Irish or Welsh instead.

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Sulania wrote:Alright, yeah, then start out in Ireland. Recommendation is Munster (Mumu) or Connacht, as they're on the far end of it and you don't have to worry all that much about Scotland or England.

You won't be able to play as any non-Christian kingdom or non-Feudal dynasty, without any dlc, so Ireland is just the best place to start overall.

For succession laws, you'll be limited to gavelkind for a while, so rush to get a duchy title and stick to one. Gavelkind splits your titles up among your heirs. So if you have two duchy titles, they'll be given to two different heirs, and your kingdom will be split down the middle (or worse if you have more heirs with more titles to divy up). So with gavelkind, only have one top title (Only have one duchy title if duke, one kingdom title of king). This also means that if you're a count, and have two counties and two heirs, you'll lose one to the other heir. So always shoot to get a title above count.

And generally, as a rule of thumb, stick to Agnatic-Cognatic. Absolute Cognatic will be closed off to you unless you meet certain religious/cultural criteria, and plus it makes the game harder if you have a female heir and you have to matrilineal marry (which closes off a lot of good marriage proposals). Absolute Agnatic makes it harder since you'll essentially have to relegate your title to another part of your dynasty if you have no male heirs (which is a pain because you'll generally have no control over who they married and what set up they have). Agnatic cognatic allows you to have male preference, with allowing a female heir when necessary.

And for Ireland players, try to make an ally of at least one other major Irish county, or ally with the Welsh. Generally the Scottish crown is a bit chaotic, and it's very easy to lose your marital alliance with them because some rebellion removed the king that you had this alliance with. Individual Scottish counties/duchies are fine, but they're a bit far away, so it's just better to ally with with Irish or Welsh instead.

I see. So it sounds like I should try to get/unlock (whatever the correct terminology is for CK2) agnatic-cognatic succession as soon as possible. How do I do that? Do I need to hit certain benchmarks like with absolute cognatic, or is there some sort of tech or culture tree I follow?

Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:I see. So it sounds like I should try to get/unlock (whatever the correct terminology is for CK2) agnatic-cognatic succession as soon as possible. How do I do that? Do I need to hit certain benchmarks like with absolute cognatic, or is there some sort of tech or culture tree I follow?

You'll have Agnatic-Cognatic from the beginning, so don't worry about obtaining it. Just don't switch to the other two, or switch a title to Agnatic-Cognatic if you get a title that is one of the other two.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Or you could do it like me, going in blind, picking sweden and declaring war after war to try and establish scandinavia.

Jaslandia, Au Minbo, Penguania And Antarctica

Sulania wrote:You'll have Agnatic-Cognatic from the beginning, so don't worry about obtaining it. Just don't switch to the other two, or switch a title to Agnatic-Cognatic if you get a title that is one of the other two.

I see. So why do I need to worry about gavelkind then? Why can't I just adopt agnatic-cognatic from the start, and then my succession is set for the rest of the game (barring a plague or war killing off my dynasty, of course)?

Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:I see. So why do I need to worry about gavelkind then? Why can't I just adopt agnatic-cognatic from the start, and then my succession is set for the rest of the game (barring a plague or war killing off my dynasty, of course)?

Agnatic-Cognatic deals with gender, Gavelkind deals with how the titles are given to the heirs.

Agnatic gavelkind will split your titles among your male heirs

Agnatic-Cognatic gavelkind will do the same, unless you only have female heirs which then the same will occur with them.

Absolute cognatic gavelkind will divide it up among literally all of your heirs, male or female.

You see?

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Sulania wrote:Agnatic-Cognatic deals with gender, Gavelkind deals with how the titles are given to the heirs.

Agnatic gavelkind will split your titles among your male heirs

Agnatic-Cognatic gavelkind will do the same, unless you only have female heirs which then the same will occur with them.

Absolute cognatic gavelkind will divide it up among literally all of your heirs, male or female.

You see?

Ah. Now I get it.

So, just one more question. You mentioned to only take one ducal title, because taking more means splitting up your territory. Will this limit my expansion in any way? Will I be forced to take a second ducal title if I conquer a certain amount of territory or conquer a territory that already has a duke?

Jaslandia wrote:Ah. Now I get it.

So, just one more question. You mentioned to only take one ducal title, because taking more means splitting up your territory. Will this limit my expansion in any way? Will I be forced to take a second ducal title if I conquer a certain amount of territory or conquer a territory that already has a duke?

With gavelkind, it makes it harder to expand as it splits your territory amongst your heirs, so you'll have to conquer all that territory back.

You'll take more ducal titles once you desire to become, say, a kingdom. Expansion in CK2 is done by making claims on land, and one way to claim land is by getting the title to it and conquering the land by de jure claim.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Sulania wrote:With gavelkind, it makes it harder to expand as it splits your territory amongst your heirs, so you'll have to conquer all that territory back.

You'll take more ducal titles once you desire to become, say, a kingdom. Expansion in CK2 is done by making claims on land, and one way to claim land is by getting the title to it and conquering the land by de jure claim.

I see. Sounds like expansion is a bit of a difficult and risky proposition in CK2 then, at least in the early game before I can get rid of gavelkind.

Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:I see. Sounds like expansion is a bit of a difficult and risky proposition in CK2 then, at least in the early game before I can get rid of gavelkind.

Always pay attention to Marriage. Marriage is everything

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Sulania wrote:Always pay attention to Marriage. Marriage is everything

Okay, Rick Santorum.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Okay, Rick Santorum.

Santorum is Catholic. I'm not Catholic

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