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Nuremgard wrote:Forgive my ignorance of Iraqi history but why did the British install Sunnis as rulers of a Shia country? Was it because the Sunnis were friendlier to British interests?

You don't need to apologize for ignorance. Anyway, the British installed Sunnis, specifically Hashemites, into the country in order to satisfy their needs after France invaded the Hashemite-ruled Arab Kingdom of Syria, establishing a colony in place of it.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri

Ok, so I have pharmaceuticals, foods, clothing, home appliances, office equipment, energy, software development, radio, pring and television media, industrial chemicals, metallurgy, weapons and ammunition covered for industry.

What am I missing?

A toy company maybe?

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri

Vetriutan 2 wrote:You don't need to apologize for ignorance. Anyway, the British installed Sunnis, specifically Hashemites, into the country in order to satisfy their needs after France invaded the Hashemite-ruled Arab Kingdom of Syria, establishing a colony in place of it.

I looked up the Hashemites earlier. They ruled Mecca for centuries until the House of Saud overthrew them. And they ruled quite a few Arab nations. They sound like they had been a powerful dynasty in the region.

Thank you for telling me more about your country. I'd like to discuss it more in future. But it's extremely late here and I'm turning in. Goodnight. :)

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Vetriutan 2

Nuremgard wrote:I looked up the Hashemites earlier. They ruled Mecca for centuries until the House of Saud overthrew them. And they ruled quite a few Arab nations. They sound like they had been a powerful dynasty in the region.

Thank you for telling me more about your country. I'd like to discuss it more in future. But it's extremely late here and I'm turning in. Goodnight. :)

Just for fun, I made a map of the Middle East that roughly predicts what the Middle East would look like if the French and British kept their promises to the Arabs. The green is a Hashemite Arabia, the purple is the Arab Kingdom of Syria, while the blue and pink are French and British colonies.

https://i.imgur.com/2FRlwUd.png

Anyway, goodbye. I have to go too.

Nuremgard, Lavan Tiri

The Wyoming Peoples Front wrote:Ok, so I have pharmaceuticals, foods, clothing, home appliances, office equipment, energy, software development, radio, pring and television media, industrial chemicals, metallurgy, weapons and ammunition covered for industry.

What am I missing?

A toy company maybe?

What about something in the transportation sector? Cars? Railroads? Buses? Aviation?

Lavan Tiri

Jaslandia wrote:What about something in the transportation sector? Cars? Railroads? Buses? Aviation?

Rail is a part of my "energy sector" in the form of transporting coal, however I do not in any way fund public transportation and the only aviation to speak of in my nation is military.

No auto industry either...

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri

The Wyoming Peoples Front wrote:Rail is a part of my "energy sector" in the form of transporting coal, however I do not in any way fund public transportation and the only aviation to speak of in my nation is military.

No auto industry either...

I see. In that case, you might as well get into more luxury goods. Toys? Jewelry? Any other exotic or unique products from your nation?

Lavan Tiri, The Wyoming Peoples Front

Hm@jewlery...

Maybe an outfitters like old school Abercrombie and Fitch. High end luggage, silver flasks, gold rimmed glasses, ornate binoculars...

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri

The Wyoming Peoples Front wrote:Hm@jewlery...

Maybe an outfitters like old school Abercrombie and Fitch. High end luggage, silver flasks, gold rimmed glasses, ornate binoculars...

Sure. Considering your nation's economy and lifestyle seems pretty basic and primitive at the moment, something fancier like that could help develop your nation (economically).

Lavan Tiri, The Wyoming Peoples Front

Oh, look. Primce Harry and Meghan Markle are headline news. A nice wee royal fluff story to distract the masses from the disaster of Brexit.

But of course, those of us who criticise the royal charade are deemed miserable or unpatriotic.

Britain: a nation of infants who always need to crawl to their betters. It's no wonder there was no revolution here with such a servile population.

Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

Hey, question for everyone on here: Would anyone be interested if I where to make more lore posts about other projects of mine?

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia

BRO TRIP 40,000: A Tale of Two Primarchs - Episode 1: Catachan Capers

In case anyone (except for me and Pirate Kingdoms) looks at TTS then here is a new episode (few days late)

VULKAN LIVES!

The Talking Point

The lowest age at which one can marry has been recently lowered to 12.

Well....... i maybe made a bad decision............

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

last thing from me for today, am i the only one that finds it ironic that anarchists rule Balkans?

Axeldonia wrote:Hey, question for everyone on here: Would anyone be interested if I where to make more lore posts about other projects of mine?

ya

Axeldonia

Spanelsko wrote:BRO TRIP 40,000: A Tale of Two Primarchs - Episode 1: Catachan Capers

In case anyone (except for me and Pirate Kingdoms) looks at TTS then here is a new episode (few days late)

VULKAN LIVES!

*zoom in on Catachan Jungle Fighter* "If only Drill Instructor Barnes could see me now!"

Spanelsko

Nuremgard wrote:Oh, look. Primce Harry and Meghan Markle are headline news. A nice wee royal fluff story to distract the masses from the disaster of Brexit.

But of course, those of us who criticise the royal charade are deemed miserable or unpatriotic.

Britain: a nation of infants who always need to crawl to their betters. It's no wonder there was no revolution here with such a servile population.

won't even get a bank holiday for it, time to abolish the monarchy so we can establish that date as an annual bank holiday

Nuremgard, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

Unfallious wrote:won't even get a bank holiday for it, time to abolish the monarchy so we can establish that date as an annual bank holiday

I'd be happy to abolish the monarchy even without any more bank holidays.

Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia

mfw bbc news delivers a literal breaking news announcement to my phone (the same notification they use to inform me of terror attacks, geopolitical events and natural disasters) to inform me that Harry proposed over roast chicken

bbc i love you but pls

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Nuremgard wrote:I'd be happy to abolish the monarchy even without any more bank holidays.

Back in 2014 we were split both ways with Republic vs Kingdom

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica

Unfallious wrote:mfw bbc news delivers a literal breaking news announcement to my phone (the same notification they use to inform me of terror attacks, geopolitical events and natural disasters) to inform me that Harry proposed over roast chicken

bbc i love you but pls

My mum and sister got the same announcements on their phones from Sky. It's ridiculous. The media will be jizzing in its pants from now until spring when these 2 arseholes get married and then Waity Katey pops out another parasite.

Lex Caledonia wrote:Back in 2014 we were split both ways with Republic vs Kingdom

Republic for me please. Cut all ties with the UK, including the Benefits Scrounges in Chief.

Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:I'd be happy to abolish the monarchy even without any more bank holidays.

Hell yes. Bring down the dumb monarchy already :P

Nuremgard

Kalaron wrote:Hell yes. Bring down the dumb monarchy already :P

And nationalise their land while we're at it.

Nuremgard wrote:And nationalise their land while we're at it.

You know, I'd agree with it. Maybe also build up a stronger military? Or at least a more effective one without the Challenger? :33

Kalaron wrote:You know, I'd agree with it. Maybe also build up a stronger military? Or at least a more effective one without the Challenger? :33

Well they want to sack 12.000 soldiers.

Nuremgard wrote:Well they want to sack 12.000 soldiers.

Yee, Britain is just kinda...sucky in that regard. They also have less total tanks than Germany has combat ready tanks (Of which, only half are, might I add) and the tanks that Britain has...well...they're good for shooting brown people I guess?

With regard to sacking soldiers, it's dumb as hell. Army 2020 in Britain is dumb too.

Kalaron wrote:Yee, Britain is just kinda...sucky in that regard. They also have less total tanks than Germany has combat ready tanks (Of which, only half are, might I add) and the tanks that Britain has...well...they're good for shooting brown people I guess?

With regard to sacking soldiers, it's dumb as hell. Army 2020 in Britain is dumb too.

I'd rather they ditch Trident, spend on conventional forces and stop this austerity crap.

Yukona

Nuremgard wrote:I'd rather they ditch Trident, spend on conventional forces and stop this austerity crap.

Well, you know my stance on Trident. Maybe it would be better to reposition it? I know you don't like having it in your territory but mayhaps it could be placed in Ireland?

I do agree on spending on Conventional Forces, though it's important to note that Political Machinery is why Challenger II exists and why they didn't just buy some Monkey Model Abrams. Honestly, Britain needs to up their CF spending and acknowledge that austerity is dumb, same thing as brexit if the government can :P

Kalaron wrote:Well, you know my stance on Trident. Maybe it would be better to reposition it? I know you don't like having it in your territory but mayhaps it could be placed in Ireland?

I do agree on spending on Conventional Forces, though it's important to note that Political Machinery is why Challenger II exists and why they didn't just buy some Monkey Model Abrams. Honestly, Britain needs to up their CF spending and acknowledge that austerity is dumb, same thing as brexit if the government can :P

Why would Ireland take it? Ireland isn't part of the UK. Unless you mean Northern Ireland. Apparently Scotland is the only place with water deep enough for Trident. I personally think that's BS.

Happy Birthday Sulania!! I hope that all your birthday wishes come true and that you enjoy today with family and friends. :D

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Today is November 27 and today are:

- 19th Birthday of Sulania

- Aviation Day (Venezuela)

- Cyber Monday

- Maaveerar Day (Tamil Eelam, Sri Lanka)

- National Bavarian Cream Pie Day (United States)

- National Craft Jerky Day (United States)

- Naval Infantry Day (Russia)

- Pins And Needles Day

- Teacher's Day (Spain)

- Lancashire Day (United Kingdom)

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- AD25 – Luoyang is declared capital of the Eastern Han dynasty by Emperor Guangwu of Han.

- 0176 – Emperor Marcus Aurelius grants his son Commodus the rank of "Imperator" and makes him Supreme Commander of the Roman legions.

- 0395 – Rufinus, praetorian prefect of the East, is murdered by Gothic mercenaries under Gainas.

- 0511 – King Clovis I dies at Lutetia and is buried in the Abbey of St Genevieve.

- 0602 – Emperor Maurice is forced to watch his five sons be executed before being beheaded himself.

- 1095 – Pope Urban II declares the First Crusade at the Council of Clermont.

- 1703 – The first Eddystone Lighthouse is destroyed in the Great Storm of 1703.

- 1727 – The foundation stone to the Jerusalem Church in Berlin is laid.

- 1810 – The Berners Street hoax was perpetrated by Theodore Hook in the City of Westminster, London.

- 1815 – Adoption of Constitution of the Kingdom of Poland.

- 1830 – Saint Catherine Labouré experiences a Marian apparition.

- 1835 – James Pratt and John Smith are hanged in London; they are the last two to be executed for sodomy in England.

- 1839 – In Boston, Massachusetts, the American Statistical Association is founded.

- 1856 – The Coup of 1856 leads to Luxembourg's unilateral adoption of a new, reactionary constitution.

- 1863 – American Civil War: Confederate cavalry leader John Hunt Morgan and several of his men escape the Ohio Penitentiary and return safely to the South.

- 1863 – American Civil War: Battle of Mine Run: Union forces under General George Meade take up positions against troops led by Confederate General Robert E. Lee.

- 1868 – American Indian Wars: Battle of Washita River: United States Army Lieutenant Colonel George Armstrong Custer leads an attack on Cheyenne living on reservation land.

- 1886 – German judge Emil Hartwich sustains fatal injuries in a duel, which would become the background for Theodor Fontane's Effi Briest.

- 1895 – At the Swedish–Norwegian Club in Paris, Alfred Nobel signs his last will and testament, setting aside his estate to establish the Nobel Prize after he dies.

- 1896 – Also sprach Zarathustra by Richard Strauss is first performed.

- 1901 – The U.S. Army War College is established.

- 1912 – Spain declares a protectorate over the north shore of Morocco.

- 1924 – In New York City, the first Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade is held.

- 1940 – In Romania, the ruling Iron Guard fascist party assassinates over 60 of arrested King Carol II of Romania's aides and other political dissidents.

- 1940 – World War II: At the Battle of Cape Spartivento, the Royal Navy engages the Regia Marina in the Mediterranean Sea.

- 1942 – World War II: At Toulon, the French navy scuttles its ships and submarines to keep them out of Nazi hands.

- 1944 – World War II: RAF Fauld explosion: An explosion at a Royal Air Force ammunition dump in Staffordshire kills seventy people.

- 1945 – CARE (then the Cooperative for American Remittances to Europe) was founded to a send CARE Packages of food relief to Europe after World War II.

- 1954 – Alger Hiss is released from prison after serving 44 months for perjury.

- 1965 – Vietnam War: The Pentagon tells U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson that if planned operations are to succeed, the number of American troops in Vietnam has to be increased from 120,000 to 400,000.

- 1968 – Penny Ann Early became the first woman to play major professional basketball, for the Kentucky Colonels in an ABA game against the Los Angeles Stars.

- 1971 – The Soviet space program's Mars 2 orbiter releases a descent module. It malfunctions and crashes, but it is the first man-made object to reach the surface of Mars.

- 1973 – Twenty-fifth Amendment: The United States Senate votes 92–3 to confirm Gerald Ford as Vice President of the United States. (On December 6, the House will confirm him 387–35).

- 1975 – The Provisional IRA assassinates Ross McWhirter, after a press conference in which McWhirter had announced a reward for the capture of those responsible for multiple bombings and shootings across England.

- 1978 – In San Francisco, city mayor George Moscone and openly gay city supervisor Harvey Milk are assassinated by former supervisor Dan White.

- 1978 – The Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) is founded in the city of Riha (Urfa) in Turkey.

- 1983 – Avianca Flight 011: A Boeing 747 crashes near Madrid's Barajas Airport, killing 181.

- 1984 – Under the Brussels Agreement signed between the governments of the United Kingdom and Spain, the former agreed to enter into discussions with Spain over Gibraltar, including sovereignty.

- 1987 – South African Airways Flight 295 crashes and kills all 159 on board.

- 1989 – Avianca Flight 203: A Boeing 727 explodes in mid-air over Colombia, killing all 107 people on board and three people on the ground. The Medellín Cartel will claim responsibility for the attack.

- 1992 – For the second time in a year, military forces try to overthrow president Carlos Andrés Pérez in Venezuela.

- 1997 – Twenty-five people are killed in the second Souhane massacre in Algeria.

- 1999 – The centre-left Labour Party takes control of the New Zealand government with leader Helen Clark becoming the first elected female Prime Minister in New Zealand's history.

- 2001 – A hydrogen atmosphere is discovered on the extrasolar planet Osiris by the Hubble Space Telescope, the first atmosphere detected on an extrasolar planet.

- 2004 – Pope John Paul II returns the relics of Saint John Chrysostom to the Eastern Orthodox Church.

- 2006 – The Canadian House of Commons approves a motion introduced by Prime Minister Stephen Harper recognizing the Québécois as a nation within Canada.

- 2009 – Nevsky Express bombing: A bomb explodes on the Nevsky Express train between Moscow and Saint Petersburg, derailing it and causing 28 deaths and 96 injuries.

- 2015 – United States: An active shooter inside a Planned Parenthood facility in Colorado Springs, Colorado, shoots at least four police officers. One officer later dies. Two civilians were also killed, and six injured. The shooter later surrendered.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 0111 - Antinous, Greek favourite of Hadrian

- 1630 - Sigismund Francis, Archduke of Austria

- 1701 - Anders Celsius, Swedish astronomer, physicist, and mathematician

- 1746 - Robert R. Livingston, American lawyer and politician, 1st United States Secretary for Foreign Affairs

- 1754 - Georg Forster, German-Polish ethnologist and journalist

- 1857 - Charles Scott Sherrington, English physiologist, bacteriologist, and pathologist, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1874 - Charles A. Beard, American historian, author, and educator, co-founded The New School

- 1875 - Julius Lenhart, Austrian gymnast

- 1894 - Konosuke Matsushita, Japanese businessman, founded Panasonic

- 1921 - Alexander Dubček, Slovak soldier and politician

- 1940 - Bruce Lee, American-Chinese actor, martial artist, and screenwriter

- 1942 - Jimi Hendrix, American singer-songwriter, guitarist, and producer

- 1943 - Jil Sander, German fashion designer, founded Jil Sander AG

- 1951 - Kathryn Bigelow, American director, producer, and screenwriter

- 1955 - Bill Nye, American engineer, educator, and television host

- 1960 - Yulia Tymoshenko, Ukrainian economist and politician, 10th Prime Minister of Ukraine

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Nuremgard, Jaslandia, The Scottish Twins

Nuremgard wrote:Why would Ireland take it? Ireland isn't part of the UK. Unless you mean Northern Ireland. Apparently Scotland is the only place with water deep enough for Trident. I personally think that's BS.

That's not bullsh*t, I know people who work on Trident who confirm that. Furthermore also the fact that Scotland has a less-dense population and a history of ship-building in the Clyde area means it's one of the only feasible places. Northern Irish have a history of ship building but not for a long time, and certainly not for the military, furthermore it would insanely anger the Republic of Ireland and could provoke IRA attacks.

Kalaron wrote:well...they're good for shooting brown people I guess?

I think America's better at that in recent years :^)

Yukona wrote:That's not bullsh*t, I know people who work on Trident who confirm that. Furthermore also the fact that Scotland has a less-dense population and a history of ship-building in the Clyde area means it's one of the only feasible places. Northern Irish have a history of ship building but not for a long time, and certainly not for the military, furthermore it would insanely anger the Republic of Ireland and could provoke IRA attacks.

I think America's better at that in recent years :^)

Ah, well. If it malfunctions, it's only the Scots it'll kill so it's acceptable collateral for the MoD.

Nuremgard wrote:Why would Ireland take it? Ireland isn't part of the UK. Unless you mean Northern Ireland. Apparently Scotland is the only place with water deep enough for Trident. I personally think that's BS.

I did mean Northern Ireland, but if it's a water-depth concern then I wholly understand it. I won't make any definitive statements, but panning through the Bathymetrics of the area would seem to imply that it is indeed the deepest of the areas that they could be hosted at. The stated draft of the submarine is something like 12 meters, and the least deep area recorded there is something like 10 meters.

Now, I can't get any data for Portsmouth, but Plymouth would seem to be a very firm 10 meters deep, normally. So it's not a huge leap for Portsmouth to be the same.

I think that it's more than just a case of how deep the water is, though as there must also be the facilities to support the submarines.

https://bathymetrics.shop/#/mappage/

Don't worry, it's free.

Yukona wrote:

I think America's better at that in recent years :^)

True, though at least we could do other things if we wanted rather than pinging off hulls.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Kalaron wrote:I did mean Northern Ireland, but if it's a water-depth concern then I wholly understand it. I won't make any definitive statements, but panning through the Bathymetrics of the area would seem to imply that it is indeed the deepest of the areas that they could be hosted at. The stated draft of the submarine is something like 12 meters, and the least deep area recorded there is something like 10 meters.

Now, I can't get any data for Portsmouth, but Plymouth would seem to be a very firm 10 meters deep, normally. So it's not a huge leap for Portsmouth to be the same.

I think that it's more than just a case of how deep the water is, though as there must also be the facilities to support the submarines.

https://bathymetrics.shop/#/mappage/

Don't worry, it's free.

True, though at least we could do other things if we wanted rather than pinging off hulls.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

As Yuk said, putting it near NI would piss off the Irish nationalists and rightfully so.

Nuremgard wrote:Ah, well. If it malfunctions, it's only the Scots it'll kill so it's acceptable collateral for the MoD.

If anything nuclear malfunctions, we're all f*cked, I've got a nuclear power plant in my county - it's literally arbitrary to use that as a reason as it relies simply on "what if's", I understand and think you should stick to the moral objection to the weapons, rather than their safety

Nuremgard wrote:As Yuk said, putting it near NI would piss off the Irish nationalists and rightfully so.

True, though my concerns are based more on the logistical side. It would probably cost billions and take years to build newer, NI facilities.

Nuremgard wrote:As Yuk said, putting it near NI would piss off the Irish nationalists and rightfully so.

Also, let's not forget Portsmouth is a hugely busy port with some of the largest shipping traffic in the south bar Bristol and London. It'd be ridiculous to put nuclear submarines there, you may as well put them in the Thames at that rate. HMNB Clyde was the only viable place with existing infrastructure and knowledge that's protected enough (it also goes straight out into the North Sea and not into the Channel or busy shipping lanes), I understand objections to it but there's no point in just making false flags about what could be done or why it is there in the first place. If Scotland left, I'd wager the UK trying to get the SNP to let it stay there - but that wouldn't happen (and rightfully so) - so I imagine it'd go to Wales, if they could find a place, or maybe far northern England.

Yukona wrote:If anything nuclear malfunctions, we're all f*cked, I've got a nuclear power plant in my county - it's literally arbitrary to use that as a reason as it relies simply on "what if's", I understand and think you should stick to the moral objection to the weapons, rather than their safety

The moral objections are the best ones, not to mention the obscene cost. And of course, you know it particularly boils my piss that it's stationed here in my country. They bang on about it keeping jobs but aren't most of the Trident workers English? So they work there during the week then go home at the weekend to spend their money in England. So even the economic argument is crap.

Even if it did keep Scottish jobs, I'd still be against it. Not spending billions just to keep a few thousand jobs. Plus, those Trident workers can get jobs elsewhere in the military.

Axeldonia

Yukona wrote:Also, let's not forget Portsmouth is a hugely busy port with some of the largest shipping traffic in the south bar Bristol and London. It'd be ridiculous to put nuclear submarines there, you may as well put them in the Thames at that rate. HMNB Clyde was the only viable place with existing infrastructure and knowledge that's protected enough (it also goes straight out into the North Sea and not into the Channel or busy shipping lanes), I understand objections to it but there's no point in just making false flags about what could be done or why it is there in the first place. If Scotland left, I'd wager the UK trying to get the SNP to let it stay there - but that wouldn't happen (and rightfully so) - so I imagine it'd go to Wales, if they could find a place, or maybe far northern England.

I doubt they'd want Trident stationed in an independent Scotland. I don't think they'd want a foreign country keeping hold of their nukes for them.

Nuremgard wrote:The moral objections are the best ones, not to mention the obscene cost. And of course, you know it particularly boils my piss that it's stationed here in my country. They bang on about it keeping jobs but aren't most of the Trident workers English? So they work there during the week then go home at the weekend to spend their money in England. So even the economic argument is crap.

Even if it did keep Scottish jobs, I'd still be against it. Not spending billions just to keep a few thousand jobs. Plus, those Trident workers can get jobs elsewhere in the military.

I'd argue against the job thing, I'd have to be shown cold statistics which I don't believe you have.

Nuremgard wrote:I doubt they'd want Trident stationed in an independent Scotland. I don't think they'd want a foreign country keeping hold of their nukes for them.

That's why I said it's more than unlikely lol

Nuremgard wrote:I doubt they'd want Trident stationed in an independent Scotland. I don't think they'd want a foreign country keeping hold of their nukes for them.

I think Yuk means a black seas port situations like Russia had with Ukraine.

Yukona wrote:That's why I said it's more than unlikely lol

Suits me. They can stick it up the Queen's arse for all I care. As long as it's out of here.

Yukona wrote:I'd argue against the job thing, I'd have to be shown cold statistics which I don't believe you have.

Like I said, it's something I think I read. Don't have anything concrete.

Nuremgard wrote:Like I said, it's something I think I read. Don't have anything concrete.

Yeah I know, pointless arguing about it though if neither of us can prove the point

Yukona wrote:Yeah I know, pointless arguing about it though if neither of us can prove the point

Does your da still work at Faslane?

Nuremgard wrote:Does your da still work at Faslane?

He doesn't work actively at Faslane, he works for a defence company that has contracts at Faslane.

Nuremgard wrote:Suits me. They can stick it up the Queen's arse for all I care. As long as it's out of here.

Well, I suppose my only objection to it is that Britain and Scotland would still be in deep shiz if a war did go off. Just looking at it, if Russia did decide to launch and decided that Britain were the only target, Glasgow would have to be exorbitantly lucky to fall outside of the area of effect, including the native CEP from the missile.

Yukona wrote:He doesn't work actively at Faslane, he works for a defence company that has contracts at Faslane.

My granddad did some work there when he was younger.

Kalaron wrote:Well, I suppose my only objection to it is that Britain and Scotland would still be in deep shiz if a war did go off. Just looking at it, if Russia did decide to launch and decided that Britain were the only target, Glasgow would have to be exorbitantly lucky to fall outside of the area of effect, including the native CEP from the missile.

Better get Scotland out the UK then so we don't get caught up in British wars.

Yukona

Nuremgard wrote:My granddad did some work there when he was younger.

Better get Scotland out the UK then so we don't get caught up in British wars.

We all know that's not going to happen, and Scotland would be hit by fallout regardless, plus the world would end. Who cares, it's nukes, just get rid of them.

Nuremgard

Yukona wrote:We all know that's not going to happen, and Scotland would be hit by fallout regardless, plus the world would end. Who cares, it's nukes, just get rid of them.

Indeed. Wish I could do what the villain does in X Men Apocalypse and lift all the nukes up into space.

Yukona

Nuremgard wrote:My granddad did some work there when he was younger.

Better get Scotland out the UK then so we don't get caught up in British wars.

Nur, it doesn't really matter if you get Scotland out of the UK to avoid war for a number of reasons, geographical reasons being the most important. Assuming that in the event of a nuclear war that not one missile has Glasgow's name on it, MIRV's releasing warheads at Britain would still have CEP that could harm Scotland. This is ignoring the radiological effects.

Yukona wrote:We all know that's not going to happen, and Scotland would be hit by fallout regardless, plus the world would end. Who cares, it's nukes, just get rid of them.

I like my world super powers not going to war thank you very much. I would rather the current world powers not have free reign to plunge us into a third world war.

Kalaron wrote:Nur, it doesn't really matter if you get Scotland out of the UK to avoid war for a number of reasons, geographical reasons being the most important. Assuming that in the event of a nuclear war that not one missile has Glasgow's name on it, MIRV's releasing warheads at Britain would still have CEP that could harm Scotland. This is ignoring the radiological effects.

I like my large-scale world peace thank you very much. I would rather the current world powers not have free reign to plunge us into a third world war.

Yeah I know.

Nuremgard,Yukona,

Just going to admit this: the two of you need to get the negative energy out and f*ck :p

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Lex Caledonia

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:Nuremgard,Yukona,

Just going to admit this: the two of you need to get the negative energy out and f*ck :p

We don't have negative energy. We merely disagree on Scotland's constitutional status. :P

Jaslandia, Lex Caledonia, Yukona

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:Nuremgard,Yukona,

Just going to admit this: the two of you need to get the negative energy out and f*ck :p

We're actually really good friends, we talk on telegram often

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Lex Caledonia

Happy Birthday Lex Caledonia! May all your birthday wishes come true. I hope you enjoy today with family and friends. :D

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Vista Major, Lex Caledonia, Yukona, The Scottish Twins

Happy birthday to Lex Caledonia and Sulania!

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia, Yukona, The Scottish Twins

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Happy Birthday Lex Caledonia! May all your birthday wishes come true. I hope you enjoy today with family and friends. :D

Nuremgard wrote:Happy birthday to Lex Caledonia and Sulania!

thank u bbys

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, The Scottish Twins

Lex Caledonia wrote:thank u bbys

Hope you had a good day, my braw lad. (That's the right slang for Fife right?)

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia, The Scottish Twins

Nuremgard wrote:Hope you had a good day, my braw lad. (That's the right slang for Fife right?)

AM NO FAE FIFE, AM FAE FAWKIRK (but yeah you are right there :L)

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, The Scottish Twins

Lex Caledonia wrote:AM NO FAE FIFE, AM FAE FAWKIRK (but yeah you are right there :L)

So you are, sorry lol. I got mixed up. My uni pal is from Fife. :P

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia, The Scottish Twins

Nuremgard wrote:So you are, sorry lol. I got mixed up. My uni pal is from Fife. :P

Its no bother man, the Falkirk accent is a frankenstein between Fife and Glaswegian

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, The Scottish Twins

Lex Caledonia wrote:Its no bother man, the Falkirk accent is a frankenstein between Fife and Glaswegian

All you east coasters have a sing song in your voice. :P

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia, The Scottish Twins

Nuremgard wrote:All you east coasters have a sing song in your voice. :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7_VlmEamUQ like this?

Vista Major

Yukona wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7_VlmEamUQ like this?

You're obsessed lol

Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, The Scottish Twins

Nuremgard wrote:We don't have negative energy. We merely disagree on Scotland's constitutional status. :P

Yukona wrote:We're actually really good friends, we talk on telegram often

The two of you should still f*ck though :p

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, Spanelsko

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:The two of you should still f*ck though :p

You dirty bugger. :P

Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Nuremgard wrote:You dirty bugger. :P

I mean, I did make a quip on Discord basically saying you can be straight with a trap by cutting off the member and carving a hole in the place

Vista Major

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:I mean, I did make a quip on Discord basically saying you can be straight with a trap by cutting off the member and carving a hole in the place

Right, that's nasty lol

Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:Right, that's nasty lol

I did follow it up by saying you can also be gay by doing the same thing to yourself and then scissoring the trap

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:The two of you should still f*ck though :p

I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS THAT?!

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Spanelsko

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:I did follow it up by saying you can also be gay by doing the same thing to yourself and then scissoring the trap

Not an image I wanted or needed lol

Penguania And Antarctica

Vista Major wrote:I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS THAT?!

Almost everyone here has some latent shipping, so pretty much yeah, Nurem and Yuk are being too tsun-tsun

Nuremgard wrote:Not an image I wanted or needed lol

Well, now you got new material :p

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:Almost everyone here has some latent shipping, so pretty much yeah, Nurem and Yuk are being too tsun-tsun

Well, now you got new material :p

Gee thanks lol

Wtf did I just log on to....XD

Russkov Soviet, Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Pirate Kingdoms

Chalanka wrote:Wtf did I just log on to....XD

Apologies for Pirate Kingdoms scarring your brain. :P

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Pirate Kingdoms

I aim to please

Nuremgard

Nurem X Yuk? yep makes sense, good luck you two!

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Yukona

In a grim future

There is only the F-35

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-japan-defence-fighter-jet/exclusive-japan-to-delay-multi-billion-dollar-fighter-jet-development-sources-idUSKBN1DD0D4

Spanelsko wrote:Nurem X Yuk? yep makes sense, good luck you two!

Better Together. We'll make our very own Union.

Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, Spanelsko

Nuremgard wrote:Better Together. We'll make our very own Union.

when is the marriage?

Spanelsko wrote:when is the marriage?

Next spring. We're getting married alongside Harry and Meghan.

Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, Spanelsko

Chalanka wrote:Wtf did I just log on to....XD

Now we're thinking alike. Also... your flag looks really familiar...

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Pirate Kingdoms

Nuremgard wrote:Next spring. We're getting married alongside Harry and Meghan.

May your marriage last for eternity, and may your children (if you will have any) be healthy and prospering in the future.

Also Question for CONCORD, will you ever decide on the treaty or will we be at a constant war staring at each other even through we surrendered more then a week ago?!

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica

Small info, i think that if anyone wants to have great fishing industry they have to be primitive to the point of stone age, since one of my nations is based on medieval we have the best fishing industry in the world at the place 567. And the primitive rank of 1.680

Spanelsko wrote:Small info, i think that if anyone wants to have great fishing industry they have to be primitive to the point of stone age, since one of my nations is based on medieval we have the best fishing industry in the world at the place 567. And the primitive rank of 1.680

I think one of my biggest economic sectors is fishing and I'm thoroughly modern!

3 of 4 of my countries are in the top 10 today.

Penguania And Antarctica, The Scottish Twins

I am curious what would happen if the queen of England or Vladimir Putin is assassinated

Fuhrmania wrote:I am curious what would happen if the queen of England or Vladimir Putin is assassinated

In terms of succession, the Queen would be succeeded by the next in line, Prince Charles, then to his older son William, followed by William's children, then to Henry, Charles's younger son, then to Andrew, the younger son of the Queen, then so on for the other relatives of the royal family. In Russia, due to the office of Vice President having been abolished in 1993 after the Constitutional Crisis, the Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev would be the immediate successor, then presumably to the Chairmen of Russia's State Duma and Federation Council.

In terms of domestic reaction, the United Kingdom has a series of guidelines in which the BBC will pull out a black tie for the reporter, interrupt running programs, then announce the Queen's death. Documentaries celebrating the Queen's life will be broadcasted and any comedy shows will not broadcast for a period of time until the state funeral, while the Accession Council will give directions for the successor, and Parliament will convene as soon as possible and immediately proceed to act. As for Russia, I presume a period of mourning will be made on the day of the funeral for the President, who will be held in Moscow until he is put to rest in the cemetery.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Lex Caledonia

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:In terms of succession, the Queen would be succeeded by the next in line, Prince Charles, then to his older son William, followed by William's children, then to Henry, Charles's younger son, then to Andrew, the younger son of the Queen, then so on for the other relatives of the royal family. In Russia, due to the office of Vice President having been abolished in 1993 after the Constitutional Crisis, the Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev would be the immediate successor, then presumably to the Chairmen of Russia's State Duma and Federation Council.

In terms of domestic reaction, the United Kingdom has a series of guidelines in which the BBC will pull out a black tie for the reporter, interrupt running programs, then announce the Queen's death. Documentaries celebrating the Queen's life will be broadcasted and any comedy shows will not broadcast for a period of time until the state funeral, while the Accession Council will give directions for the successor, and Parliament will convene as soon as possible and immediately proceed to act. As for Russia, I presume a period of mourning will be made on the day of the funeral for the President, who will be held in Moscow until he is put to rest in the cemetery.

A cacophony of grief will ensue as the media constantly tells us the nation is mourning when in fact, most people wont give a sh!t.

Axeldonia

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:In terms of succession, the Queen would be succeeded by the next in line, Prince Charles, then to his older son William, followed by William's children, then to Henry, Charles's younger son, then to Andrew, the younger son of the Queen, then so on for the other relatives of the royal family. In Russia, due to the office of Vice President having been abolished in 1993 after the Constitutional Crisis, the Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev would be the immediate successor, then presumably to the Chairmen of Russia's State Duma and Federation Council.

In terms of domestic reaction, the United Kingdom has a series of guidelines in which the BBC will pull out a black tie for the reporter, interrupt running programs, then announce the Queen's death. Documentaries celebrating the Queen's life will be broadcasted and any comedy shows will not broadcast for a period of time until the state funeral, while the Accession Council will give directions for the successor, and Parliament will convene as soon as possible and immediately proceed to act. As for Russia, I presume a period of mourning will be made on the day of the funeral for the President, who will be held in Moscow until he is put to rest in the cemetery.

And possibly the worlds largest manhunt for the assassin would be launched

>Watches video on De-Nazification

>Makes the mistake of going to the comment section

>Sees Neo-Nazis trying to justify their daddy's actions

>Sees a special someone trying to say that someone named Gaia-Sophia is behind white genocide and that his daddy fought against the banks

>Makes lengthy reply

>Regrets living

But seriously though, who is Gaia-Sophia?

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

Vetriutan 2 wrote:>Watches video on De-Nazification

>Makes the mistake of going to the comment section

>Sees Neo-Nazis trying to justify their daddy's actions

DEATH TO ALL NAZIS

Vetriutan 2 wrote:>Watches video on De-Nazification

>Makes the mistake of going to the comment section

>Sees Neo-Nazis trying to justify their daddy's actions

>Sees a special someone trying to say that someone named Gaia-Sophia is behind white genocide and that his daddy fought against the banks

>Makes lengthy reply

>Regrets living

But seriously though, who is Gaia-Sophia?

The irony is that many of the Nazis in the comments would have been the first ones Hitler would have sent to the gas chambers, given how imbecilic they are.

Axeldonia, Spanelsko

Fuhrmania wrote:DEATH TO ALL NAZIS

Nuremgard wrote:The irony is that many of the Nazis in the comments would have been the first ones Hitler would have sent to the gas chambers, given how imbecilic they are.

http://www.tombstonebuilder.com/generate.php?top1=VETRIUTAN&top2=1921-2003&top3=STILL+DOESN%27T+KNOW&top4=WHO+GAIA-SOPHIA+IS&sp=

Nuremgard

Vetriutan 2 wrote:http://www.tombstonebuilder.com/generate.php?top1=VETRIUTAN&top2=1921-2003&top3=STILL+DOESN%27T+KNOW&top4=WHO+GAIA-SOPHIA+IS&sp=

It does raise the question of how we deal with modern Nazis. Do we let them spout their hateful views? Do we suppress them?

Nuremgard wrote:It does raise the question of how we deal with modern Nazis. Do we let them spout their hateful views? Do we suppress them?

We should suppress them. The tolerance of intolerance will lead to the destruction of tolerance entirely. Why should we allow people who will happily trample on our rights once they are in power have a place in our society?

Nuremgard, Axeldonia

Vetriutan 2 wrote:We should suppress them. The tolerance of intolerance will lead to the destruction of tolerance entirely. Why should we allow people who will happily trample on our rights once they are in power have a place in our society?

I agree. What's ironic is they are the first ones to scream about their right to free speech even though they would happily remove the right of free speech once in power.

Vetriutan 2

Nuremgard wrote:I agree. What's ironic is they are the first ones to scream about their right to free speech even though they would happily remove the right of free speech once in power.

Hey! Mesopotamian King would disagree with you on that. He is a classical liberal.

/s

Axeldonia

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