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What I don't like is people hating on Farron because he may or may not think gay sex is a sin. Ultimately, it doesn't matter if he does or does not, it's him saying 'I don't like it, but I'm not going to stop you doing what you are entitled to' which is the entire principal of liberalism. Same goes for Ron Paul, he said he is a devout Christian and may not agree to same-sex marriage - but if two homosexual men (or women) wish to be married by a religious organisation of their choice (that also consents), why should anyone else stop them?
Tim Farron and any opinions he holds are irrelevant to me. I was never keen on the Lib Dems in the first place and still not. Besides, any politician who claims to have an imaginary friend in the sky is not someone who should be trusted with power.
You would readily dismiss many of the greatest leaders in history because they believe in something you yourself cannot prove does (or doesn't) exist?
It is my personal opinion. If someone came to my door asking me to vote for them, and they claimed that they voted because their "faith" guided them, I'd be worried. Farron is the typical Christian. Disgusted by gay sex but too afraid to say it. Least he doesn't want to ban it. I find his sort more tolerable.
Or he is strong-willed enough to personally think it is a sin but on the other hand believes everyone has the right to do with their life what they wish and he - and thus nobody else - should have the ability to stop them? In other words, putting the rights of others in front of the personal beliefs of his own?
Am I meant to kiss his feet for that?
"Oh, Timmy, I know you think I'm an evil sinner who will burn forever in hell but thank you ever so much for saying I should be allowed to sin. You're such a gracious, loving person."
Yes, bow down to your new liberal and democratic overlord!
Nuremgard
I wish our overlords were more liberal and democratic. Instead Kim Jong May is about to be elected next week.
Ahhh, religion.
I prefer to disarm both religious and irreligious folk by telling them "I don't give a damn". Apatheism is great when coupled with Humanism.
Andromitus
*claps and cries in juche*
Penguania And Antarctica
I think you mean Theresa Thatcher ;)
Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona
I had a bad personal experience with religion so I have an intense hatred of it.
She's a psycho.
Or as my mum and sister call her, Maggie May. Or as I call her, "that old witch."
Penguania And Antarctica
I was raised in a Catholic family, but they allow me to have my own religious belief. So, when it came time for me to start caring about that, I dabbled in atheism, Catholicism, and then Islam for like a couple days. None of them were right. All were rather ludicrous and either assumed too much from something in the case of the religious, and too much from nothing in the case of Atheism.
Assuming something doesn't exist because there is no evidence of it is equally as fallacious as assuming something does with mere conviction and anecdotes. The best route is simply not care about what happens and do the most in the world (that is obviously real) to make it better.
Lavan Tiri, Yukona
I was a brainwashed fire and brimstone Catholic for a couple of years when I was a teen (self-imposed, my family itself is irreligious.) I dabbled in Wicca after that and then decided to abandon religion altogether. I'm much happier for it.
Lavan Tiri
My theory has always been if God created the universe why would he care what you eat or stick your wang into?
Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica
Because according to the religious, what you do matters to the creator of the universe. Even though the universe is big beyond all comprehension, and you're not even an insect in the grand scheme of things, but what you do matters. And more than that, it has eternal consequences.
Religion is the most self-centred BS ever.
Lavan Tiri
Religions (Rebellions) are built on hope - Jyn Erso
Lavan Tiri
I mean, I wouldn't call it BS, and I can certainly see how one could assume that the Universe (beautiful as it truely is) must have been crafted by an all loving god.
As a fellow atheist, I don't believe, but I do venture that others feel a comfort from it.
Lavan Tiri, Yukona, United Continental States
Yes, the universe is beautiful. As is nature. And it's easy to see why someone might be a believer. But turn away from the sunsets and mountains and you'll see a child with bone cancer, or a parasite eating its way out of a cow's eye.
Nature must be taken in its totality, as Stephen Fry said. There is as much ugliness in this world as there is beauty. It just helps the religious feel better about their beliefs to focus on the nice stuff.
Lavan Tiri, Yukona
To change the subject from religion, I'm looking to finally have some form of information about my militär. I was thinking about just being a copy and paste of the existing PLA, but the technology (or rather, the lack thereof) does not fit the tech obsessed nation I'm trying to create.
Lavan Tiri, Andromitus
Well yeah, of course it's purpose is to give them at least a bit of hope and to help them feel better.
Its (and I use this term loosely, knowing that it's not to the proper definition) a coping mechanism for some people, believing that the big guy up there is looking out for them and loves them like a parent. I think it's silly to make that a point of criticism however as it's almost certain that you have methods to feel better in the same way as I.
Besides, something can be deadly yet beautiful my dude, take space for example since its a medium where everything can and will go wrong just to kill you.
Well yeah, Chinese arms are lacking due to the need to produce on massive scales. Can you imagine the cost of a Leclerc if you made three or four thousand of it?
Lavan Tiri
People deriving personal comfort and hope from their faith doesn't bother me. People telling me I'm evil or that I'm going to hell for my lifestyle bothers me. People thinking they are superior because they are religious bother me. People trying to impose their beliefs on me by trying to have their BS made part of the law bothers me.
As I have said before, people can have imaginary friends if they want but I should not be expected to live by the rules their imaginary friend sets on them.
Lavan Tiri
Check out my post on the Roleplay region RMB! War has started!
I'd be glad to join your side, but I just wanna be sure that Southern States is even agreeing to this?
I mean, you could agree to war with Maurician and have him invade you and annex your land
Maurician
Smash those glorified slavers for me :P
Maurician
Damn not even readying troops, just sorta, rolling on in lol
400 Posts....wow
United Continental States
What is good about that is that I can stretch the PLA's equipment to also include British, French, German, Russian, and even some Australian, Israeli, and American designs. It's not too much of a leap to say that they could build exact copies of foreign equipment. Especially given how they have the licenses to build the components and have already integrated some of the technology behind these components into their own military (for examples, the Type 22 Missile Boat based off of Australian technology and European Diesel engines for their land vehicles).
In any case, the PLA has an apparent knack for EMP weapons. I'm assuming these are still a no-no for the world?
Andromitus, Yukona
Yes, EMPs aren't allowed.
With regard towards designs, you certainly could use non-indigenous designs, though why you would use mostly PLA equipment then is rather strange in that case. As for intergrating out-of-nation-technology, those tend to be rather simple to adapt, especially the powerpack for land vehicles. Tbh, I suggest using Euro-tech for almost everything.
Maurician
[spoiler=Today is June 3 and today are:]
Today is June 3 and today are:
- Chimborazo Day
- Confederate Memorial Day (Kentucky, Louisiana, and Tennessee, United States)
- Economist day (Buenos Aires, Argentina)
- Mabo Day (Australia)
- Martyr's Day (Uganda)
- National Bubbly Day (United States)
- National Chocolate Macaroon Day (United States)
- National Egg Day (United States)
- National Prairie Day (United States)
- National Repeat Day (United States)
- Opium Suppression Movement Day (Taiwan)
- Pentecost Eve (Norway)
- World Clubfoot Day
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[spoiler=This day in history:]
This day in history:
- 350 The Roman usurper Nepotianus, of the Constantinian dynasty, proclaims himself Roman emperor, entering Rome at the head of a group of gladiators.
- 713 The Byzantine emperor Philippicus is blinded, deposed and sent into exile by conspirators of the Opsikion army in Thrace. He is succeeded by Anastasios II, who begins the reorganization of the Byzantine army.
- 1140 The French scholar Peter Abelard is found guilty of heresy.
- 1326 The Treaty of Novgorod delineates borders between Russia and Norway in Finnmark.
- 1539 Hernando de Soto claims Florida for Spain.
- 1608 Samuel de Champlain completes his third voyage to New France at Tadoussac, Quebec.
- 1621 The Dutch West India Company receives a charter for New Netherland.
- 1658 Pope Alexander VII appoints François de Laval vicar apostolic in New France.
- 1665 James Stuart, Duke of York (later to become King James II of England), defeats the Dutch fleet off the coast of Lowestoft.
- 1781 Jack Jouett begins his midnight ride to warn Thomas Jefferson and the Virginia legislature of an impending raid by Banastre Tarleton.
- 1839 In Humen, China, Lin Tse-hsü destroys 1.2 million kg of opium confiscated from British merchants, providing Britain with a casus belli to open hostilities, resulting in the First Opium War.
- 1861 American Civil War: Battle of Philippi (also called the Philippi Races): Union forces rout Confederate troops in Barbour County, Virginia, now West Virginia.
- 1864 American Civil War: Battle of Cold Harbor: Union forces attack Confederate troops in Hanover County, Virginia.
- 1866 The Fenians are driven out of Fort Erie, Ontario back into the United States.
- 1885 In the last military engagement fought on Canadian soil, the Cree leader, Big Bear, escapes the North-West Mounted Police.
- 1889 The first long-distance electric power transmission line in the United States is completed, running 14 miles (23 km) between a generator at Willamette Falls and downtown Portland, Oregon.
- 1916 The National Defense Act is signed into law, increasing the size of the United States National Guard by 450,000 men.
- 1935 One thousand unemployed Canadian workers board freight cars in Vancouver, British Columbia, beginning a protest trek to Ottawa.
- 1937 The Duke of Windsor marries Wallis Simpson.
- 1940 World War II: The Luftwaffe bombs Paris.
- 1940 World War II: The Battle of Dunkirk ends with a German victory and with Allied forces in full retreat.
- 1940 Franz Rademacher proposes plans to make Madagascar the "Jewish homeland", an idea that had first been considered by 19th century journalist Theodor Herzl.
- 1941 World War II: The Wehrmacht razes the Greek village of Kandanos to the ground and murders 180 of its inhabitants.
- 1942 World War II: Japan begins the Aleutian Islands Campaign by bombing Unalaska Island.
- 1943 In Los Angeles, California, white U.S. Navy sailors and Marines clash with Latino youths in the Zoot Suit Riots.
- 1950 The first successful ascent of an Eight-thousander; the summit of Annapurna is reached by Maurice Herzog and Louis Lachenal.
- 1962 At Paris Orly Airport, Air France Flight 007 overruns the runway and explodes when the crew attempts to abort takeoff, killing 130.
- 1963 The Buddhist crisis: Soldiers of the Army of the Republic of Vietnam attack protesting Buddhists in Huế, South Vietnam, with liquid chemicals from tear-gas grenades, causing 67 people to be hospitalised for blistering of the skin and respiratory ailments.
- 1965 The launch of Gemini 4, the first multi-day space mission by a NASA crew. Ed White, a crew member, performs the first American spacewalk.
- 1969 MelbourneEvans collision: off the coast of South Vietnam, the Australian aircraft carrier HMAS Melbourne cuts the U.S. Navy destroyer USS Frank E. Evans in half.
- 1973 A Soviet supersonic Tupolev Tu-144 crashes near Goussainville, France, killing 14, the first crash of a supersonic passenger aircraft.
- 1979 A blowout at the Ixtoc I oil well in the southern Gulf of Mexico causes at least 3,000,000 barrels (480,000 m3) of oil to be spilled into the waters, the second-worst accidental oil spill ever recorded.
- 1980 The 1980 Grand Island tornado outbreak hits Nebraska, causing five deaths and $300 million (equivalent to $872 million in 2016) worth of damage.
- 1982 The Israeli ambassador to the United Kingdom, Shlomo Argov, is shot on a London street; he survives but is left paralysed.
- 1984 Operation Blue Star, a military offensive, is launched by the Indian government at Harmandir Sahib, also known as the Golden Temple, the holiest shrine for Sikhs, in Amritsar. The operation continues until June 6, with casualties, most of them civilians, in excess of 5,000.
- 1989 The government of China sends troops to force protesters out of Tiananmen Square after seven weeks of occupation.
- 1991 Mount Unzen erupts in Kyūshū, Japan, killing 43 people, all of them either researchers or journalists.
- 1992 Aboriginal Land Rights are granted in Australia in Mabo v Queensland (No 2), a case brought by Eddie Mabo.
- 2006 The union of Serbia and Montenegro comes to an end with Montenegro's formal declaration of independence.
- 2012 A plane carrying 153 people on board crashes in a residential neighborhood in Lagos, Nigeria, killing everyone on board and 10 people on the ground.
- 2012 The pageant for the Diamond Jubilee of Elizabeth II takes place on the River Thames.
- 2013 The trial of United States Army private Chelsea Manning for leaking classified material to WikiLeaks begins in Fort Meade, Maryland.
- 2013 At least 119 people are killed in a fire at a poultry farm in Jilin Province in northeastern China.
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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]
Famous Birthdays:
- 1726 James Hutton, Scottish geologist and physician
- 1770 Manuel Belgrano, Argentinian economist, lawyer, and politician
- 1808 Jefferson Davis, American colonel and politician, President of the Confederate States of America
- 1865 George V of the United Kingdom
- 1873 Otto Loewi, German-American pharmacologist and psychobiologist, Nobel Prize laureate
- 1899 Georg von Békésy, Hungarian-American biophysicist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate
- 1906 Josephine Baker, French actress, singer, and dancer; French Resistance operative
- 1910 Paulette Goddard, American actress and model
- 1925 Tony Curtis, American actor
- 1926 Allen Ginsberg, American poet
- 1929 Werner Arber, Swiss microbiologist and geneticist, Nobel Prize laureate
- 1931 Raúl Castro, Cuban commander and politician, 18th President of Cuba
- 1950 Suzi Quatro, American-English singer-songwriter, bass player, producer, and actress
- 1986 Rafael Nadal, Spanish tennis player
- 1992 Mario Götze, German footballer
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Quote of the day
An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
- Winston Churchill -
Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.
Vista Major, Yukona, Maurician
Those must be the most confused troops ever lol
Yukona
"Why are we here?"
Andromitus, Yukona, United Continental States
Had a cracking independence march today in Glasgow attended by thousands. Shame I couldn't be there as I was at hospital with mum.
Saor Alba!
Penguania And Antarctica, The Cross And Davids Star
Hope Scrooge McDuck was there!
Penguania And Antarctica
No ducks. Just a lot of decent Scots who want their country to be like any other.
Penguania And Antarctica, The Cross And Davids Star
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voeo0Oiox-c
Boggin. Britannia is bust. The Empire is dead.
Saor Alba!
Penguania And Antarctica
"I thought we were a Republic? Why are we annexing things?
The Cross And Davids Star
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4tmhWgQDcY
Not sure really but I posted something in the RP region like recently
Gross.
You have no like of the Royal Navy or HMS Defender or the Exeter Chiefs?
Why would I?
The Royal Navy is a respectable organisation which is one of the most capable and battle hardened navies in the world and a pillar of historical maritime warfare. HMS Defender has a great crew of lovely gents and the Exeter Chiefs is an alright rugby team but not when compared to Bath.
If you say so. I've no love for the military.
:^(
Don't get me wrong. I respect them. They do a job I never could. But I see the military as a necessary evil at best, and an organised state killing machine at worst.
No offence, Yuks. I know your daddy is in the Forces.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3oSAVwcD4U
Nuremgard
Valt always accuses me of that too. :P I am no traitor. I have never betrayed my country of Scotland. ;)
Yup, I see no reason to respond as it wont be effecting me nor anyone else in any way for a long time :D
But it is good news as I wont be dealing with Sarin again <3
Yukona
Make fun of me, you can. But when I have sea access to the Pacific AND the Atlantic, it'll be the perfect start to my new empire.
Okay, awesome, bully for you! I just don't understand in any capacity how you even got the permission domestically to annex a sovereign nation, or how this will benefit you internationally in any way <3 (Not angry mau, nor am I trying to bait you, issa genuine question)
He's building an empire. Conquerors don't tend to ask for permission before invading/annexing a country. :P
The Royal Republic Of Kumania
I can just close the Straits of Gibraltar to him, so that'd prevent any expansion in the Med or any trade getting to him from the Med that makes the transport costs not exceed the costs of sending it there
The Royal Republic Of Kumania, United Continental States
Ooh, sounds exciting. Being leader is fun.
United Continental States
He's a republic, what democratic nation would just annex another nation; I mean, I get using your secret service USA-style but seriously, just straight up annexing other nations into your empire, this isn't Rome or the 1700's anymore when you could just take things...
I simply asked if he wanted to go to war with me, and he said yes. However he is only active every 12 hours or so, so for him to post on the RMB it will take a while. And this will help me deploy units around the world, since my country willnow reach the Atlantic and Pacific. And with all those cucks down in central america blocking me from trade, i'll be free to do what I want. Btw I am an empire but I'm still a republic. :)
True but it is NS. :P
I'm only trying to spice up the RP, if you are going to be a hassle in having some fun, then why are you in the RP region anyway?
I know how you got permission OOC, I'm talking IC,
"Hey guys, members of the senate, sup ma dudes; So you know those guys to the south, how about we, the elected politicians, send our voter's sons and daughters on a certain-death expedition to take their land and capture their people, oh, and while we're at it, lets piss off the international community as well."
*Everyone claps*
Nuremgard, The Royal Republic Of Kumania, United Continental States
https://youtu.be/IhnUgAaea4M?t=8
Andromitus, Maurician
Um mau...what do you think spice up means? Yuk's actions are spicing things up as they'd heighten tensions between you two and change the overall dynamic; It's also a realistic reaction to what your doing...
It is in best interest for the Republic, to take the land to the west so we can expand our wealth and great capitalism around the world.
It is also noted, that the evil socialist scum in central america have blocked our ships from going through, as they are socialism scum as I stated before.
So in best interest for the Republic, the senators, along with the general of the military, have decided to invade the land to the west.
Not only him but everyone, it's just annoying I guess but I can deal with it.
Okay, this is just...what? So what did you think was going to happen, you wanted to spice things up on RP, good job, you've succeeded; nations across the world are now reacting to your actions and your getting angry at them for doing so?
As I said I can deal with it. This war will only benefit the people.
Hi CFN! It's been a while :)
Penguania And Antarctica
FIB! Long time no see!
Fibertas, Penguania And Antarctica
Oh hey der!
Fibertas, Penguania And Antarctica
Just got back from a 10 day study abroad trip in Iceland, and seeing all the flags in the airports reminded me of NationStates!
Merlinton, Nuremgard, The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Vista Major, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Aldwood, United Continental States
I am a simple man - I see un-socialist activities, I close straits.
In all honesty, I enjoy RPing with my nation and what my nation would do, so what's a hassle to you is fun for me x
Nuremgard, The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Andromitus, United Continental States
Stay out of Asia and we'll be gucci.
United Continental States
How is everyone today?
Penguania And Antarctica
I'm fine, how are you?
Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland
Neck is still a bit stiff, but besides that I'm pretty gucci.
Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica
A couple come to mind, actually.....
-The US with the Mormon country of Deseret
-The US with a huge chunk of Mexico
-The US and the Kingdom of Hawai'i
The Royal Republic Of Kumania
Oh, and the US and the Philippines
The Royal Republic Of Kumania
United Continental States
What a close win FOR allowing Libertatem on the map. The final numbers were 8-6 for
https://strawpoll.com/8e3ax6w
Vista Major, The United Providences Of Perland
I'm a socialist republic I say stay out of Asia and we'll be Gucci.
The United Providences Of Perland
FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIB![/I]
Never leave us again
Fibertas, Penguania And Antarctica
*cough* Communist *cough*
Despite how much I want to RP as a communist nation (see: not state), it's impossible in an MT setting. I'll settle for democratic market socialist for now.
The United Providences Of Perland
Fried I know I didn't make this clear and I'm sorry :-/, but when I said "not the 1700's" I was referring to literally all of that, I mean, I was more thinking of the Mexico part but my stance still stands; I'm talking about now, here in 2017, hell, 2020 IC; I highly doubt it would be easy for a representative democracy to annex another state due to...you know..digitalization...globalization...it being a democracy...the state its annexing being industrial...it also being a neighbor...that jazz :P
United Continental States
Ohhhh, there's still that, you know :P
What about Russia (democratic insofar that it has elections, but otherwise conservative, admittedly) annexing Crimea? Not really a nation annexing another in its entirety, but still.
A lot of scholars say interstate conflict (I.e., Russia v. US, NK v. US) is now a part of the past. The UN's "no wars, no longer" attitude, economic interdependency, and democratization worldwide has lead to wars being nearly impossible to start between two states.
And, if I may add, this is why I am so obsessed with politicking in my RPs- if I want to start a war, I'll make sure the public sees the state in question as an enemy, the wider world sees the enemy state as in the wrong, and win over allies and Key Supporters through promises of financial gain.
Yukona
Tangshan's government may have done the first and only good thing ever: it abolished serfdom.
Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica
IDK if you've been on Discord, but He actually described his government as what most would usually call "Libertarian", I doubt a Libertarian Democracy in a globalized world is going to be invading anyone realistically but this is NS and investing in new forms of fission power makes scientific advancement go down so I don't think its that much of a stretch :P
Nuremgard here. Do you guys like Tangshan's new flag? Thoughts?
Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona
Let Tang cte so I can be the region's foremost capitalist super nation
Merlinton, Yukona
Hmm...nah.
Penguania And Antarctica
Hey guys!
I have been appointed Chancellor of State for Libertatem. I would like to start working out a Sister Region Charter like we had with the original CFN and Libertatem. I am waiting on Vista to appoint an ambassador to Libertatem, and I am filling the role of ambassador to the Confederacy. I am linking a slightly adapted version of the original charter. This will be the basis of our negotiations.
In Friendship,
Humph
Andromitus, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona
Bring Tangshan in and put him in Tibet so I can brutalize Tibet :P
Tangshan
Too bad for you that to me, Tangshan is China geographically. :P
Why would you want to brutalise Tangshan? ;)
Yukona
I want land and money, and a convenient capitalist near me gives me perfect reason domestically to brutalize them. All I have to do to make sure it goes without a hitch is to fabricate some story of Tangshan committing some atrocity against me and deliver an ultimatum it has no conceivable or reasonable way of fulfilling. Then come the rockets!
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