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Humpheria Major wrote:Anybody wanna make a new party with me?

Possibly. What would this party be like?

Jaslandia wrote:Possibly. What would this party be like?

Streamers. Ice cream. Our moms can bring a movie (mine says it has to be PG though).

Jaslandia, Au Minbo, Andromitus, Tserra

Humpheria Major wrote:Streamers. Ice cream. Our moms can bring a movie (mine says it has to be PG though).

Sounds like a good party to me!

Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Humpheria Major, Percyton

Humpheria Major wrote:Streamers. Ice cream. Our moms can bring a movie (mine says it has to be PG though).

That sounds like fun! I love parties!

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Humpheria Major wrote:Streamers. Ice cream. Our moms can bring a movie (mine says it has to be PG though).

I headed over there right now.

Jaslandia

Mdogao wrote:You are a prodigious writer! Query: Why did the Jews convery to Christianity before founding the Theocracy?

Well, The Cross and Davids Star was under a main leadership for most of it's existance and only under Elijah's rule did they convert to a theocracy. And if you were jewish and a man was hellbent on killing you and every other jew, you'd most likely convert to the next best thing, being christianity.

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:Well, The Cross and Davids Star was under a main leadership for most of it's existance and only under Elijah's rule did they convert to a theocracy. And if you were jewish and a man was hellbent on killing you and every other jew, you'd most likely convert to the next best thing, being christianity.

Which branch of Christianity?

Nuremgard wrote:Which branch of Christianity?

Baptist.

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:Baptist.

Heathen. Orthodox is the only true faith.

Nuremgard wrote:Heathen. Orthodox is the only true faith.

*TRIGGERED*

Nuremgard

Theresa May got ignored at the EU again. F*cking hilarious.

Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:Theresa May got ignored at the EU again. F*cking hilarious.

?

The Cross And Davids Star wrote: And if you were jewish and a man was hellbent on killing you and every other jew, you'd most likely convert to the next best thing, being christianity.

This cannot possibly be true, because someone did try to do that, and Judaism is still a thing.

Mdogao wrote:This cannot possibly be true, because someone did try to do that, and Judaism is still a thing.

Then again, its set in an alternate universe.

Mdogao

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:?

She went to some meeting and she looked about for someone to talk to but a cringe-worthy moment ensued as she was left hanging, awkwardly playing with the sleeve of her jacket.

Mdogao

Nuremgard wrote:She went to some meeting and she looked about for someone to talk to but a cringe-worthy moment ensued as she was left hanging, awkwardly playing with the sleeve of her jacket.

Pfft excuse me for a moment... *sees story play out in mind and loses sh!t with laughter*

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:Then again, its set in an alternate universe.

Yes, and it is a very detailed one! Why did they pick the Baptist Church, out of all the sects of Christianity? Why not one of the Catholic rites, which would be more closely geographically and historically related to Judaism?

Mdogao wrote:Yes, and it is a very detailed one! Why did they pick the Baptist Church, out of all the sects of Christianity? Why not one of the Catholic rites, which would be more closely geographically and historically related to Judaism?

Because... ytf not?

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:Because... ytf not?

Not to mention thats my sect of christianity, so a bit of selfinsert wouldnt hurt.

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:Because... ytf not?

Because, if there was a mass conversion from Judaism to Christianity, did they just say "well, this particular branch founded in 1609 seems pretty good?". If they were converting from Judaism to Christianity because it's the "next best thing," which is debatable, I think they would choose to convert to something with as close a cultural and doctrinal relationship to Judaism as possible, which would probably be one of the rites Roman Catholic Church, or maybe Coptic Christianity.

Mdogao wrote:Because, if there was a mass conversion from Judaism to Christianity, did they just say "well, this particular branch founded in 1609 seems pretty good?". If they were converting from Judaism to Christianity because it's the "next best thing," which is debatable, I think they would choose to convert to something with as close a cultural and doctrinal relationship to Judaism as possible, which would probably be one of the rites Roman Catholic Church, or maybe Coptic Christianity.

Yeah, because confessing your sins to a man whos says that they are forgiven or paying a bishop to get a loved one out of ''purgatory" makes total sense in the Bible.

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:Yeah, because confessing your sins to a man whos says that they are forgiven or paying a bishop to get a loved one out of ''purgatory" makes total sense in the Bible.

*Obligatory "lots of stuff in the bible don't make sense" comment here.

Also, mentioning one point for why they wouldn't convert to something closer does not an argument make.

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:Not to mention thats my sect of christianity, so a bit of selfinsert wouldnt hurt.

Self-Insert? seems a bit narcissistic...

P.S.

I also chose "hey stop lording it over them!" but that was rejected by the anti-cr*ppy jokes committee

Andromitus wrote:Self-Insert? seems a bit narcissistic...

P.S.

I also chose "hey stop lording it over them!" but that was rejected by the anti-cr*ppy jokes committee

Yes it does, but that joke was pretty funny tho.

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:Yeah, because confessing your sins to a man whos says that they are forgiven or paying a bishop to get a loved one out of ''purgatory" makes total sense in the Bible.

This your world to build, and I am just trying to give you some constructive feedback. If it is isn't help, I will stop. If it is helpful, my response is:

Yes, Purgatory is not mentioned in the Bible. However, Judaism doesn't subscribe to the Bible at all. The primary spiritual text of Judaism is the Torah. Look at this from the perspective of a Jew. I think a Jewish person converting to a Gentile under those conditions would pick a branch of Christianity with roots in the Holy Land, not in Amsterdam.

Kalaron wrote:*Obligatory "lots of stuff in the bible don't make sense" comment here.

Also, mentioning one point for why they wouldn't convert to something closer does not an argument make.

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The Cross And Davids Star wrote:Yes it does, but that joke was pretty funny tho.

“Proud,” “Haughty,” “Scoffer,” are their names, Who acts with insolent pride.

[insolent pride = narcissism in the bible because screw the Greeks]

Mdogao wrote:This your world to build, and I am just trying to give you some constructive feedback. If it is isn't help, I will stop. If it is helpful, my response is:

Yes, Purgatory is not mentioned in the Bible. However, Judaism doesn't subscribe to the Bible at all. The primary spiritual text of Judaism is the Torah. Look at this from the perspective of a Jew. I think a Jewish person converting to a Gentile under those conditions would pick a branch of Christianity with roots in the Holy Land, not in Amsterdam.

Right, i get what you sayin and the feedback is pretty good, but i dont wanna end up losing my head over something like a nations lore, even if it is mine.

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:Right, i get what you sayin and the feedback is pretty good, but i dont wanna end up losing my head over something like a nations lore, even if it is mine.

I don't know what "losing my head" means in the context.

Andromitus wrote:“Proud,” “Haughty,” “Scoffer,” are their names, Who acts with insolent pride.

[insolent pride = narcissism in the bible because screw the Greeks]

Just because i love myself makes me prideful apparently?

Mdogao wrote:I don't know what "losing my head" means in the context.

Where i start argueing and explaining to the point where im yelling irl.

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:Error 404: fvck not found

Mdogao wrote:This your world to build, and I am just trying to give you some constructive feedback.

What he said.

Typically, and and I'll fully admit to this just being my experiences, I prefer my factbooks being as realistically written as they can be, even when they involve seemingly fantastic parts.

Kalaron wrote:What he said.

Typically, and and I'll fully admit to this just being my experiences, I prefer my factbooks being as realistically written as they can be, even when they involve seemingly fantastic parts.

I get that and everyone has a different preference, but occasionally i would want some thing to not make sense, dunno why, just do.

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:Where i start argueing and explaining to the point where im yelling irl.

Oh, okay. That expression means something different where I'm from. Anyways, I want to congratulate you on having a very detailed and interesting lore. I don't even have lore!

Mdogao wrote:Oh, okay. That expression means something different where I'm from. Anyways, I want to congratulate you on having a very detailed and interesting lore. I don't even have lore!

Well, thanks anyways! And about the expression of losing your head where your from, imma just leave it to my imagination to figger that out.

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:I get that and everyone has a different preference, but occasionally i would want some thing to not make sense, dunno why, just do.

So long as you don't RP from that standpoint :P

Kalaron wrote:So long as you don't RP from that standpoint :P

Gotcha.

Kalaron wrote:Sorry buddy, but I don't exactly like parties at their best, so it ain't for me :P

I'm sure someone else wouldn't mind it though :P

I thought we were past parties...

Vista Major wrote:I thought we were past parties...

We're certainly past tea times! *pouts*

Einsiev, Jaslandia, Vista Major, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica

Vista Major wrote:I thought we were past parties...

We're past the horrid Presidium.

If people want to form parties, they can, you know?

I'll still be seeing if people wont see the logic of some situations, regardless of party affiliation regardless, so...

Jaslandia, Vista Major

Continental Commonwealths wrote:We're certainly past tea times! *pouts*

That is so true

Kalaron wrote:We're past the horrid Presidium.

If people want to form parties, they can, you know?

I'll still be seeing if people wont see the logic of some situations, regardless of party affiliation regardless, so...

Good, because I have a Union Party locked and loaded in case some nut tries to make Stalinism out of our government

Continental Commonwealths wrote:We're certainly past tea times! *pouts*

Sorry about that. I'll true to do more of those over the next few weeks, and others are also free to start one provided they follow the same general format.

Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

Continental Commonwealths wrote:We're certainly past tea times! *pouts*

I see you like the comment, Jas. Twenty six days, Jas!

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I see you like the comment, Jas. Twenty six days, Jas!

I know, and I'm guilty about it. Consider this my pledge: I will hold at least 4 Tea Times over the next two weeks.

Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:I know, and I'm guilty about it. Consider this my pledge: I will hold at least 4 Tea Times over the next two weeks.

Amen!

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:I know, and I'm guilty about it. Consider this my pledge: I will hold at least 4 Tea Times over the next two weeks.

tea times?

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Mdogao

Andromitus wrote:tea times?

Times of tea

We gather by the fire, eat some food, and discuss some wacky and/or politically relevant topics

I have an archive

Jaslandia

Vista Major wrote:I have an archive

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=655859

Vista Major wrote:Times of tea

We gather by the fire, eat some food, and discuss some wacky and/or politically relevant topics

I have an archive

it seems so pleasant!

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I see you like the comment, Jas. Twenty six days, Jas!

come on! 26 days of no pleasantries! you guys are holding out on me!

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Vista Major wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=655859

For that bottom one, I take the second door.

Andromitus wrote:tea times?

There's a lot of references to past events I don't get.

Killdash, Andromitus

Mdogao wrote:There's a lot of references to past events I don't get.

Hopefully you will soon; I'll try to host a Tea Time this weekend, and I'm excited to see the responses from you and others who haven't experienced Tea Time before.

Killdash, Mdogao

Jaslandia wrote:Hopefully you will soon; I'll try to host a Tea Time this weekend, and I'm excited to see the responses from you and others who haven't experienced Tea Time before.

Looking forward to it

Jaslandia

President Latrovia releases the official name-list of the Second Administration:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/15mmhwSdTYKGLMRW_WEENXoBupg0EXn1c3i3Q7vYTWPY/edit?usp=sharing

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

Hello dudes.

[spoiler=Today are:]

Today are:

- Barbie and Barney Backlash Day

- Day of Reconciliation (South Africa)

- Free Shipping Day

- Las Posadas (Mexico)

- National Chocolate-covered Anything Day (United States)

- National Day (Bahrain)

- National Sports Day (Thailand)

- National Ugly Christmas Sweater Day (United States)

- O Sapientia

- Republic Day (Kazakhstan)

- Simbang Gabi novena of masses (Philippines)

- Underdog Day

- Victory Day (Bangladesh)

- Victory Day (India)

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 714 – Pepin of Herstal, mayor of the Merovingian palace, dies at Jupille (modern Belgium). He is succeeded by his infant grandson Theudoald while his wife Plectrude holds actual power in the Frankish Kingdom.

- 755 – An Lushan revolts against Chancellor Yang Guozhong at Yanjing, initiating the An Lushan Rebellion during the Tang dynasty of China.

- 1431 – Hundred Years' War: Henry VI of England is crowned King of France at Notre Dame in Paris.

- 1497 – Vasco da Gama passes the Great Fish River, where Bartolomeu Dias had previously turned back to Portugal.

- 1653 – English Interregnum: The Protectorate: Oliver Cromwell becomes Lord Protector of the Commonwealth of England, Scotland and Ireland.

- 1689 – Convention Parliament: The Declaration of Right is embodied in the Bill of Rights.

- 1773 – American Revolution: Boston Tea Party: Members of the Sons of Liberty disguised as Mohawk Indians dump hundreds of crates of tea into Boston harbor as a protest against the Tea Act.

- 1826 – Benjamin W. Edwards rides into Mexican-controlled Nacogdoches, Texas, and declares himself ruler of the Republic of Fredonia.

- 1850 – The Charlotte Jane and the Randolph bring the first of the Canterbury Pilgrims to Lyttelton, New Zealand.

- 1863 – American Civil War: Joseph E. Johnston replaces Braxton Bragg as commander of the Confederate Army of Tennessee.

- 1880 – Outbreak of the First Boer War between the Boer South African Republic and the British Empire.

- 1903 – Taj Mahal Palace & Tower hotel in Bombay first opens its doors to the guests.

- 1907 – The American Great White Fleet begins its circumnavigation of the world.

- 1912 – First Balkan War: The Royal Hellenic Navy defeats the Ottoman Navy at the Battle of Elli.

- 1922 – President of Poland Gabriel Narutowicz is assassinated by Eligiusz Niewiadomski at the Zachęta Gallery in Warsaw.

- 1938 – Adolf Hitler institutes the Cross of Honour of the German Mother.

- 1942 – The Holocaust: Schutzstaffel chief Heinrich Himmler orders that Roma candidates for extermination be deported to Auschwitz.

- 1944 – World War II: The Battle of the Bulge begins with the surprise offensive of three German armies through the Ardennes forest.

- 1946 – Thailand joins the United Nations.

- 1950 – Korean War: U.S. President Harry S. Truman declares a state of emergency, after Chinese troops enter the fight in support of communist North Korea.

- 1965 – Vietnam War: General William Westmoreland sends U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara a request for 243,000 more men by the end of 1966.

- 1968 – Second Vatican Council: Official revocation of the Edict of Expulsion of Jews from Spain.

- 1971 – Bangladesh Liberation War and Indo-Pakistani War of 1971: The surrender of the Pakistan Army brings an end to both conflicts. This is commemorated annually as Victory Day in Bangladesh, and as Vijay Diwas in India.

- 1971 – The United Kingdom recognizes Bahrain's independence, which is commemorated annually as Bahrain's National Day.

- 1978 – Cleveland, Ohio becomes the first major American city to default on its financial obligations since the Great Depression.

- 1985 – Paul Castellano and Thomas Bilotti are shot dead on the orders of John Gotti, who assumes leadership of New York's Gambino crime family.

- 1989 – U.S. Appeals Court Judge Robert Smith Vance is assassinated by a mail bomb sent by Walter Leroy Moody, Jr.

- 1991 – Kazakhstan declares independence from the Soviet Union.

- 2013 – A bus falls from an elevated highway in the Philippines capital Manila killing at least 18 people with 20 injured.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1485 – Catherine of Aragon

- 1742 – Gebhard Leberecht von Blücher, German field marshal

- 1770 – Ludwig van Beethoven, composer

- 1775 – Jane Austen, English author

- 1866 – Wassily Kandinsky, Russian-French painter and theorist

- 1901 – Margaret Mead, American anthropologist and author

- 1917 – Arthur C. Clarke, English-Sri Lankan soldier and author

- 1938 – Liv Ullmann, Norwegian actress, director, and screenwriter

- 1946 – Benny Andersson, Swedish singer-songwriter, pianist, and producer (ABBA)

- 1964 – Heike Drechsler, German sprinter and long jumper

- 1969 – Adam Riess, American astrophysicist, astronomer, and academic Nobel Prize laureate

- 1975 – Benjamin Kowalewicz, Canadian singer-songwriter and guitarist

- 1988 – Mats Hummels, German footballer

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Quote of the day

Time and space - time to be alone, space to move about - these may well become the great scarcities of tomorrow.

- Edwin Way Teale -

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Jaslandia, The United Providences Of Perland, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I dunno, man. Define "Ghost Pops".

They're like a kind of crisp. Very spicy.

The United Providences Of Perland

Jaslandia wrote:Hopefully you will soon; I'll try to host a Tea Time this weekend, and I'm excited to see the responses from you and others who haven't experienced Tea Time before.

*starts meticulously gluing back together statues of Jas he had just been toppling*

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

Yay #TeaPartyTriumph!

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, The Cross And Davids Star

The Capital City Of Nazereth wrote:Yay #TeaPartyTriumph!

Just so long as we're not talking about THIS Tea party:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement

Jaslandia wrote:Just so long as we're not talking about THIS Tea party:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement

Depends on what one were havin.

The Capital City Of Nazereth wrote:Yay #TeaPartyTriumph!

Ew no.

Jaslandia, Solla Ultima

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:Wrong tea party perland.

If that's your cover ;)

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:If that's your cover ;)

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The United Providences Of Perland

Ohhh man I feel so groovy todayyy! :P

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

Latrovia wrote:Ohhh man I feel so groovy todayyy! :P

I have a concussion.

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:I have a concussion.

Like...right now?

Latrovia wrote:Like...right now?

Yeah.

Penguania And Antarctica

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:I have a concussion.

Jeez way too damper the mood Per ;)

But seriously, hope ya get better

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Andromitus wrote:Jeez way too damper the mood Per ;)

But seriously, hope ya get better

Sorry. The pain suckkks

Latrovia wrote:Ohhh man I feel so groovy todayyy! :P

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:I have a concussion.

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/ef/ef02b4af17582f7a6170122891c468b7be9ea23b0285b06fb6db56ed06b08fe3.jpg

Vista Major, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica

Latrovia wrote:Ohhh man I feel so groovy todayyy! :P

I'm feeling pretty good too, if tired.

Thinking about advancements that could be made.

Penguania And Antarctica

Kalaron wrote:I'm feeling pretty good too, if tired.

Thinking about advancements that could be made.

Advancements? Go on!

The United Providences Of Perland

Mdogao wrote:Advancements? Go on!

Eh, nothing too serious.

Just Tungsten Disulfide plates, some better calibers (:P), trying to get 30mm rounds to be armour killers :P

Beyond that, I'm trying to think of new ones.

The United Providences Of Perland

Kalaron wrote:Eh, nothing too serious.

Just Tungsten Disulfide plates, some better calibers (:P), trying to get 30mm rounds to be armour killers :P

Beyond that, I'm trying to think of new ones.

Are you designing a tank?

Mdogao wrote:Are you designing a tank?

IFV for Tse

Kalaron wrote:IFV for Tse

Beg your pardon?

Mdogao wrote:Beg your pardon?

Infantry Fighting Vehicle for Tserra.

Kalaron wrote:Infantry Fighting Vehicle for Tserra.

How wonderful! What are the advantages of tungsten disulfide?

Mdogao wrote:How wonderful! What are the advantages of tungsten disulfide?

Very hard material, and can resist most shells that simply function as AP, while also having a pretty high melting point (Though, that isn't really super useful unless one is planning for incendiary ammunition).

Basically, it functions well enough as a lower layer of armour, though one will still need some Composite on top.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Kalaron wrote:Very hard material, and can resist most shells that simply function as AP, while also having a pretty high melting point (Though, that isn't really super useful unless one is planning for incendiary ammunition).

Basically, it functions well enough as a lower layer of armour, though one will still need some Composite on top.

Well, slight misinformation.

Provided the shells aren't in the extreme spectrum, it can.

Jaslandia

Kalaron wrote:Very hard material, and can resist most shells that simply function as AP, while also having a pretty high melting point (Though, that isn't really super useful unless one is planning for incendiary ammunition).

Basically, it functions well enough as a lower layer of armour, though one will still need some Composite on top.

Kalaron wrote:Well, slight misinformation.

Provided the shells aren't in the extreme spectrum, it can.

https://youtu.be/Ccoj5lhLmSQ

Kalaron wrote:Very hard material, and can resist most shells that simply function as AP, while also having a pretty high melting point (Though, that isn't really super useful unless one is planning for incendiary ammunition).

Basically, it functions well enough as a lower layer of armour, though one will still need some Composite on top.

Wouldn't this be tungsten carbide?

Mdogao wrote:Wouldn't this be tungsten carbide?

Nope.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tungsten(IV)_sulfide

This happens to have Nanotubes, which are pretty rocking at impact resistant materials.

Kalaron wrote:Nope.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tungsten(IV)_sulfide

This happens to have Nanotubes, which are pretty rocking at impact resistant materials.

If you are in the market for some feedback, I don't think that is sound chemistry. "Tungsten Disulfide (WS2) or Tungsten Disulphide is an extremely slick, dry film lubricant coating."(Fn. 2) "A pressurized refrigerated air application process impinges a dry metallic WS2 coating without heat, curing, binders or adhesives. The lubricant coating binds instantly to any metal or resin substrate with a thickness of 20 millionths of an inch." (Fn. 2)

Footnote 1 http://www.brycoat.com/surface-engineering/got-friction-brycoat-dry-film-lubricant-coatings/got-friction-brycoat-tungsten-disulfide-ws2-dry-lubricant-coatings/

Footnote 2 http://www.microsurfacecorp.com/Tungsten-Disulfide-WS2-Coating-History.php

Mdogao wrote:If you are in the market for some feedback, I don't think that is sound chemistry. "Tungsten Disulfide (WS2) or Tungsten Disulphide is an extremely slick, dry film lubricant coating."(Fn. 2) "A pressurized refrigerated air application process impinges a dry metallic WS2 coating without heat, curing, binders or adhesives. The lubricant coating binds instantly to any metal or resin substrate with a thickness of 20 millionths of an inch." (Fn. 2)

Footnote 1 http://www.brycoat.com/surface-engineering/got-friction-brycoat-dry-film-lubricant-coatings/got-friction-brycoat-tungsten-disulfide-ws2-dry-lubricant-coatings/

Footnote 2 http://www.microsurfacecorp.com/Tungsten-Disulfide-WS2-Coating-History.php

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1742706113002675

http://www.thenanoresearch.com/upload/justPDF/0630.pdf

I'm afraid that it is, in fact, sound chemistry.

What something is made of can be quite different to what it seems to be :P

In truth, this is probably the furthest I'd really be reaching with PMT as I have, since this would be pretty time consuming work without FT.

Kalaron wrote:http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1742706113002675

http://www.thenanoresearch.com/upload/justPDF/0630.pdf

I'm afraid that it is, in fact, sound chemistry.

What something is made of can be quite different to what it seems to be :P

In truth, this is probably the furthest I'd really be reaching with PMT as I have, since this would be pretty time consuming work without FT.

I fail to see how these papers support your hypothesis that tungsten disulfide can be used as armor plating. They have nothing to do with this concept. One paper is about synthetic bone tissue and the other is about binding tungsten disulfide to carbon to allow it to be used as a coating on a broader array of materials.

Hello guys. Wish you all a nice weekend.

[spoiler=Today are:]

Today are:

- Accession Day (Bahrain)

- Birthday of Prophet Muhammad and Imam Sadeq (Iran)

- International Day to End Violence Against Sex Workers

- National Day (Bhutan)

- National Maple Syrup Day (United States)

- National Wreaths Across America Day (United States)

- Pan American Aviation Day (United States)

- Saturnalia, in honor of Saturn (Ancient Rome)

- Wright Brothers Day (United States)

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 497 BC - The first Saturnalia festival was celebrated in ancient Rome.

- 920 - Romanos I Lekapenos is crowned co-emperor of the underage Constantine VII.

- 942 - Assassination of William I of Normandy.

- 1538 - Pope Paul III excommunicates Henry VIII of England.

- 1777 - American Revolution: France formally recognizes the United States.

- 1790 - Discovery of the Aztec calendar stone.

- 1835 - The second Great Fire of New York destroys 50 acres (200,000 square meters) of New York City's Financial District.

- 1837 - A fire in the Winter Palace of Saint Petersburg kills 30 guards.

- 1865 - First performance of the Unfinished Symphony by Franz Schubert.

- 1892 - First issue of Vogue is published

- 1896 - Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania's Schenley Park Casino, which was the first multi-purpose arena with the technology to create an artificial ice surface in North America, is destroyed in a fire

- 1903 - The Wright brothers make the first controlled powered, heavier-than-air flight in the Wright Flyer at Kitty Hawk, North Carolina.

- 1907 - Ugyen Wangchuck is crowned first King of Bhutan

- 1918 - Darwin Rebellion: Up to 1,000 demonstrators march on Government House in Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia.

- 1919 - Uruguay becomes a signatory to the Buenos Aires copyright treaty.

- 1927 - Indian revolutionary Rajendra Lahiri is hanged in Gonda jail, Uttar Pradesh, India, two days before the scheduled date.

- 1935 - First flight of the Douglas DC-3.

- 1938 - Otto Hahn discovers the nuclear fission of the heavy element uranium, the scientific and technological basis of nuclear energy.

- 1939 - World War II: Battle of the River Plate: The Admiral Graf Spee is scuttled by Captain Hans Langsdorff outside Montevideo.

- 1944 - World War II: Battle of the Bulge: Malmedy massacre: American 285th Field Artillery Observation Battalion POWs are shot by Waffen-SS Kampfgruppe Joachim Peiper.

- 1947 - First flight of the Boeing B-47 Stratojet strategic bomber.

- 1951 - The American Civil Rights Congress delivers "We Charge Genocide" to the United Nations.

- 1957 - The United States successfully launches the first Atlas intercontinental ballistic missile at Cape Canaveral, Florida.

- 1960 - Troops loyal to Emperor Haile Selassie in Ethiopia crush the coup that began December 13, returning power to their leader upon his return from Brazil. Haile Selassie absolves his son of any guilt.

- 1967 - Australian Prime Minister Harold Holt disappears while swimming near Portsea, Victoria, and is presumed drowned.

- 1983 - Provisional IRA members detonate a car bomb at Harrods Department Store in London. Three police officers and three civilians are killed.

- 2002 - Second Congo War: The Congolese parties of the Inter Congolese Dialogue sign a peace accord which makes provision for transitional governance and legislative and presidential elections within two years.

- 2003 - The Soham murder trial ends at the Old Bailey in London, England, with Ian Huntley found guilty of two counts of murder. His girlfriend Maxine Carr is found guilty of perverting the course of justice.

- 2003 - SpaceShipOne, piloted by Brian Binnie, makes its first powered and first supersonic flight.

- 2005 - Anti-World Trade Organization protesters riot in Wan Chai, Hong Kong.

- 2005 - Jigme Singye Wangchuck abdicates the throne as King of Bhutan.

- 2010 - Mohamed Bouazizi sets himself on fire. This act became the catalyst for the Tunisian Revolution and the wider Arab Spring.

- 2014 - The United States and Cuba re-establish diplomatic relations after severing them in 1960.

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- 1936 - Pope Francis

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- 1973 - Paula Radcliffe, English runner

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Mdogao wrote:I fail to see how these papers support your hypothesis that tungsten disulfide can be used as armor plating. They have nothing to do with this concept. One paper is about synthetic bone tissue and the other is about binding tungsten disulfide to carbon to allow it to be used as a coating on a broader array of materials.

They show that that form the WS2 actually have a pretty decent array of properties, such as transferring heat and energy to the surrounding area at a pretty decent rate.

Seeing as to how there have been no tests about the feasibility of Tungsten Disulfide as an armour plating, I kind of have to reach and extrapolate a little, dude.

Kalaron wrote:They show that that form the WS2 actually have a pretty decent array of properties, such as transferring heat and energy to the surrounding area at a pretty decent rate.

Seeing as to how there have been no tests about the feasibility of Tungsten Disulfide as an armour plating, I kind of have to reach and extrapolate a little, dude.

Ugh, the lack of an edit button is killing me after being on Discord for so long.

http://www.sensorsportal.com/HTML/DIGEST/october_2011/P_SI_159.pdf

There's a better link.

Kalaron wrote:They show that that form the WS2 actually have a pretty decent array of properties, such as transferring heat and energy to the surrounding area at a pretty decent rate.

Seeing as to how there have been no tests about the feasibility of Tungsten Disulfide as an armour plating, I kind of have to reach and extrapolate a little, dude.

This reminds me of your "thought experiment."

Mdogao wrote:This reminds me of your "thought experiment."

That answer reminds me of how you sourced from Wikipedia :P

Lavan Tiri

Kalaron wrote:That answer reminds me of how you sourced from Wikipedia :P

Um... ok? Even a quick Wikipedia check can prevent you from confusing real science with gobbledygook?

Lavan Tiri

Mdogao wrote:Um... ok? Even a quick Wikipedia check can prevent you from confusing real science with gobbledygook?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tungsten(IV)_sulfide

Go down to the nanotubes section ;)

Also, check http://www.sensorsportal.com/HTML/DIGEST/october_2011/P_SI_159.pdf for some nice fun.

Or, hell, just check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inorganic_nanotube#Properties_and_potential_applications

Lavan Tiri

Kalaron wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tungsten(IV)_sulfide

Go down to the nanotubes section ;)

Also, check http://www.sensorsportal.com/HTML/DIGEST/october_2011/P_SI_159.pdf for some nice fun.

Or, hell, just check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inorganic_nanotube#Properties_and_potential_applications

I seriously don't get why that Wiki link won't work, but just copy and past it in the top URL bar.

Lavan Tiri

Kalaron wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tungsten(IV)_sulfide

Go down to the nanotubes section ;)

Also, check http://www.sensorsportal.com/HTML/DIGEST/october_2011/P_SI_159.pdf for some nice fun.

Or, hell, just check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inorganic_nanotube#Properties_and_potential_applications

Are you even reading these articles? The sensorportal article is about forming W2S; it says its uses are "casting resins, adhesives, and as high performance coatings for

tribological applications, such as sliding bearings, anti-drug paintings and calendar roller covers." Where are you getting armor from?

The Wikipedia article just say W2S forms nanotubes. Nanotubes do a LOT of different things. Some are used as armor. Some are good conductors. Some are good insulators. Some are used in paints. Some good lubricants. Tungsten disulfide is of the lubricant variety. Just because some nanotubes can be used as armor doesn't mean W2S is a good armor.

If you want to be realistic, pick another substance for your armor. If you don't want to be realistic, stick with W2S. But please understand that your "sound chemistry" is really a stretch.

Lavan Tiri

Mdogao wrote:Are you even reading these articles? The sensorportal article is about forming W2S; it says its uses are "casting resins, adhesives, and as high performance coatings for

tribological applications, such as sliding bearings, anti-drug paintings and calendar roller covers." Where are you getting armor from?

The Wikipedia article just say W2S forms nanotubes. Nanotubes do a LOT of different things. Some are used as armor. Some are good conductors. Some are good insulators. Some are used in paints. Some good lubricants. Tungsten disulfide is of the lubricant variety. Just because some nanotubes can be used as armor doesn't mean W2S is a good armor.

If you want to be realistic, pick another substance for your armor. If you don't want to be realistic, stick with W2S. But please understand that your "sound chemistry" is really a stretch.

From the link for inorganic nanotubes.

"The wear of the nanotubes-reinforced epoxy was eight times lower than that of pure epoxy.[21] WS2 nanotubes were also embedded into a poly(methyl methacrylate) (PMMA) nanofiber matrix via electrospinning. The nanotubes were well dispersed and aligned along fiber axis. The enhanced stiffness and toughness of PMMA fiber meshes by means of inorganic nanotubes addition may have potential applications as impact-absorbing materials.[22]"

This gem, copied straight from the sensorportal link you clearly glossed over:

"4. Conclusions

WS2 nanotubes can now be synthesized in a pure phase and in substantial quantities. This allows them

to be dispersed in nanocomposites and tested. Indeed in the current study, INT-WS2 were dispersed in

an epoxy matrix and a number of mechanical properties were measured to characterize the adhesion to

a substrate, tribological properties as well as the fracture toughness of the nanocomposites."

Nowhere in the link does it actually say WS2, might I add.

[B]Like I said before, one has to sometimes branch out of what is already acknowledged as armour, such that they might find better armours[/B]

Lavan Tiri

Kalaron wrote:Nowhere in the link does it actually say WS2, might I add.

Damn, meant W2S

Lavan Tiri

Kalaron wrote:From the link for inorganic nanotubes.

"The wear of the nanotubes-reinforced epoxy was eight times lower than that of pure epoxy.[21] WS2 nanotubes were also embedded into a poly(methyl methacrylate) (PMMA) nanofiber matrix via electrospinning. The nanotubes were well dispersed and aligned along fiber axis. The enhanced stiffness and toughness of PMMA fiber meshes by means of inorganic nanotubes addition may have potential applications as impact-absorbing materials.[22]"

This gem, copied straight from the sensorportal link you clearly glossed over:

"4. Conclusions

WS2 nanotubes can now be synthesized in a pure phase and in substantial quantities. This allows them

to be dispersed in nanocomposites and tested. Indeed in the current study, INT-WS2 were dispersed in

an epoxy matrix and a number of mechanical properties were measured to characterize the adhesion to

a substrate, tribological properties as well as the fracture toughness of the nanocomposites."

Nowhere in the link does it actually say WS2, might I add.

[B]Like I said before, one has to sometimes branch out of what is already acknowledged as armour, such that they might find better armours[/B]

I hate to be a downer, but I still don't think you are actually reading and understanding this. These quotes are about epoxies and composites. This speaks to the uses of composite armor, not slabs of W2S. Also, please look up "tribological."

Lavan Tiri

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:- 1903 - The Wright brothers make the first controlled powered, heavier-than-air flight in the Wright Flyer at Kitty Hawk, North Carolina.

I imagine Merc is pretty excited for today.

Lavan Tiri, Continental Commonwealths, Penguania And Antarctica

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