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The Vidnoye wrote:Alright, I'm all posted up for all my RP lines!

*screams*

Jaslandia, The Vidnoye, Penguania And Antarctica

Did you ever have your dreams of building something grand get dashed?

Yeah, me too. I tried downloading a bunch of mods on F4 and the settlement building is still annoying.

Russian Fedration, Jaslandia, Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica

Ahhhhh!

The Hungarian State as its final form on the new map update looks awesome! Im so excited!!!

Thanks Baxten

Jaslandia, Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica, Gran Baja California

Friedensreich wrote:Did you ever have your dreams of building something grand get dashed?

Yeah, me too. I tried downloading a bunch of mods on F4 and the settlement building is still annoying.

Fallout 4?

Aldaur, Friedensreich

Russian Fedration wrote:Fallout 4?

Farmville Four: The Final Fig Crop

Jaslandia, Aldaur, Friedensreich, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, Magnatronia

Scotland's moving to ban the smacking of children. Although I don't agree in directly controlling what a parent does, needing to physically harm a child in order for them to behave has bad psychological effects and just speaks more for your bad parenting in my opinion

Jaslandia

Yukona wrote:Scotland's moving to ban the smacking of children. Although I don't agree in directly controlling what a parent does, needing to physically harm a child in order for them to behave has bad psychological effects and just speaks more for your bad parenting in my opinion

A Pimp Named Slickback would like a word with you:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rxObkfSqmQM

Yukona

Yukona wrote:Scotland's moving to ban the smacking of children. Although I don't agree in directly controlling what a parent does, needing to physically harm a child in order for them to behave has bad psychological effects and just speaks more for your bad parenting in my opinion

I disagree. Asians get beaten a lot and we are the most successful and well behaved children. If anything, we should be encouraging white people to beat their sh!tty kids more often. Have you seen what white kids do in front of cops? If they weren't white, they would totally get shot, especially if they were black. We need to stop pandering to this safe space-wuss culture of millennials. Everybody, just beat yo kids :p Also, kids can be pretty sh!tty, and as long as you're only hitting them for discipline and not because you're mad, it should be okay. Personally, I wouldn't want to hit my kids, and I'll try to make them do physical activity instead, but if I need to, I'll physically discipline my kids. I got beaten when I was a kid and I turned out just fine, as did my mother. Must be an immigrant thing. Westerners are too soft :p

Russian Fedration

Aldaur wrote:I disagree. Asians get beaten a lot and we are the most successful and well behaved children. If anything, we should be encouraging white people to beat their sh!tty kids more often. Have you seen what white kids do in front of cops? If they weren't white, they would totally get shot, especially if they were black. We need to stop pandering to this safe space-wuss culture of millennials. Everybody, just beat yo kids :p Also, kids can be pretty sh!tty, and as long as you're only hitting them for discipline and not because you're mad, it should be okay. Personally, I wouldn't want to hit my kids, and I'll try to make them do physical activity instead, but if I need to, I'll physically discipline my kids. I got beaten when I was a kid and I turned out just fine, as did my mother. Must be an immigrant thing. Westerners are too soft :p

Be careful when playing race cards, because there are bound to be some people that will beg to differ *ahem* me being a Cracker Jack and never getting caught for half the sh!te I do *ahem*.

Russian Fedration, Jaslandia, Aldaur, Yukona

Toot toot :)

Jaslandia, Andromitus, The United Providences Of Perland, Yukona, Magnatronia, Percyton

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Toot toot :)

Noot Noot.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Yukona, Percyton

Aldaur wrote:Lel, Vistonian Empire :p

Don't mock me, I had a past

Jaslandia, Aldaur, Yukona

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Toot toot :)

I now imagine a penguin tooting one of those clown horns.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Toot toot :)

Toot toot right back buddy.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Percyton

I wish they done ranks of things as an aggregate percentage rather then let the huge nations take the trophy in everything

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Magnatronia

heyo folks! :)

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Yukona, Percyton

Latrovia wrote:heyo folks! :)

Hello :)

Jaslandia, The United Providences Of Perland, Percyton

Latrovia wrote:b a b e

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I'm not a pig.

Jaslandia, Latrovia, Yukona

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Toot toot :)

Boop Boop! *Boops nose*

Einsiev, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Percyton

Andromitus wrote:Boop Boop! *Boops nose*

Sput-? SPUTNIK?

IT'S BEEN SO LONG.

Nah but really I wish the world had recovered poor sputnik.

Russian Fedration, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Kalaron wrote:Sput-? SPUTNIK?

IT'S BEEN SO LONG.

Nah but really I wish the world had recovered poor sputnik.

Which sputnik ?

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Which sputnik ?

Sputnik 1, though pretty much any satellite that's gone off up there is a pretty sad thing.

Kalaron wrote:Sputnik 1, though pretty much any satellite that's gone off up there is a pretty sad thing.

Well, Sputnik 1 burned up during reentry.

Yukona

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Well, Sputnik 1 burned up during reentry.

I'm pretty sure all Sputniks did

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Well, Sputnik 1 burned up during reentry.

Yup, but it's still sad though.

I don't know, the world has trained me to personify objects like Satellites as being sad explorers of a sort since thry burn out their batteries long before they'll be able to return, normally.

Something about a satellite sending it's last pulse back to us from some ten million miles out in the black makes me feel a tad melancholy.

Merlinton, Jaslandia, Aghrabia, The Vidnoye, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota

[spoiler=Today is May 12 and today are:]

Today is May 12 and today are:

- 2nd Amendment Day (Pennsylvania, United States)

- Child Care Provider Day

- Day of the Finnish Identity (Finland)

- Fintastic Friday: Giving Sharks a Voice

- Great Prayer Day (Denmark)

- Imam Mahdi's birthday (Iran)

- International Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Awareness Day

- International Nurses Day

- National Fibromyalgia Awareness Day (United States)

- National Limerick Day (United States)

- National Military Spouse Appreciation Day (United States)

- National Nutty Fudge Day (United States)

- National Odometer Day (United States)

- National Provider Appreciation Day (United States)

- One Day Without Shoes Day

- Saint Andrea the First Day (Georgia)

- Shab e-Barat (Bangladesh)

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 254 – Pope Stephen I succeeds Pope Lucius I as the 23rd pope.

- 907 – Zhu Wen forces Emperor Ai into abdicating, ending the Tang dynasty after nearly three hundred years of rule.

- 1191 – Richard I of England marries Berengaria of Navarre who is crowned Queen consort of England the same day.

- 1328 – Antipope Nicholas V, a claimant to the papacy, is consecrated in Rome by the Bishop of Venice.

- 1364 – Jagiellonian University, the oldest university in Poland, is founded in Kraków, Poland.

- 1510 – The Prince of Anhua rebellion begins when Zhu Zhifan kills all the officials invited to a banquet and declares his intent on ousting the powerful Ming dynasty eunuch Liu Jin during the reign of the Zhengde Emperor.

- 1551 – National University of San Marcos, the oldest university in the Americas, is founded in Lima, Peru.

- 1588 – French Wars of Religion: Henry III of France flees Paris after Henry I, Duke of Guise enters the city and a spontaneous uprising occurs.

- 1593 – London playwright Thomas Kyd is arrested and tortured by the Privy Council for libel.

- 1619 – Dutch statesman Johan van Oldenbarnevelt is sentenced to death for high treason.

- 1689 – King William's War: William III of England joins the League of Augsburg starting a war with France.

- 1743 – Maria Theresa of Austria is crowned Queen of Bohemia after defeating her rival, Charles VII, Holy Roman Emperor.

- 1780 – American Revolutionary War: In the largest defeat of the Continental Army, Charleston, South Carolina is taken by British forces.

- 1784 – The Treaty of Paris signed on September 3, 1783, takes effect on this date.

- 1797 – War of the First Coalition: Napoleon I of France conquers Venice.

- 1821 – The first major battle of the Greek War of Independence against the Turks is fought in Valtetsi.

- 1846 – The Donner Party of pioneers departs Independence, Missouri for California, on what will become a year-long journey of hardship and cannibalism.

- 1862 – American Civil War: U.S. federal troops occupy Baton Rouge, Louisiana.

- 1863 – American Civil War: Battle of Raymond: Two divisions of James B. McPherson's XVII Corps turn the left wing of Confederate General John C. Pemberton's defensive line on Fourteen Mile Creek, opening up the interior of Mississippi to the Union Army during the Vicksburg Campaign.

- 1864 – American Civil War: The Battle of Spotsylvania Court House: Thousands of Union and Confederate soldiers die in "the Bloody Angle".

- 1865 – American Civil War: The Battle of Palmito Ranch: The first day of the last major land action to take place during the Civil War, resulting in a Confederate victory.

- 1870 – The Manitoba Act is given the Royal Assent, paving the way for Manitoba to become a province of Canada on July 15.

- 1881 – In North Africa, Tunisia becomes a French protectorate.

- 1885 – North-West Rebellion: The four-day Battle of Batoche, pitting rebel Métis against the Canadian government, comes to an end with a decisive rebel defeat.

- 1926 – The Italian-built airship Norge becomes the first vessel to fly over the North Pole.

- 1932 – Ten weeks after his abduction, the infant son of Charles Lindbergh, Charles Jr., is found dead in Hopewell, New Jersey, just a few miles from the Lindberghs' home.

- 1933 – The Agricultural Adjustment Act is enacted to restrict agricultural production by paying farmers subsidies.

- 1937 – The Duke and Duchess of York are crowned as King George VI and Queen Elizabeth of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland in Westminster Abbey.

- 1941 – Konrad Zuse presents the Z3, the world's first working programmable, fully automatic computer, in Berlin.

- 1942 – World War II: Second Battle of Kharkov: In eastern Ukraine, Red Army forces under Marshal Semyon Timoshenko launch a major offensive from the Izium bridgehead, only to be encircled and destroyed by the troops of Army Group South two weeks later.

- 1942 – World War II: The U.S. tanker SS Virginia is torpedoed in the mouth of the Mississippi River by the German submarine U-507.

- 1948 – Wilhelmina, Queen regnant of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, cedes the throne.

- 1949 – The Soviet Union lifts its blockade of Berlin.

- 1949 – The western occupying powers approve the Basic Law for the new German state: the Federal Republic of Germany.

- 1965 – The Soviet spacecraft Luna 5 crashes on the Moon.

- 1968 – Vietnam War: North Vietnamese and Viet Cong forces attack Australian troops defending Fire Support Base Coral.

- 1978 – In Zaire, rebels occupy the city of Kolwezi, the mining center of the province of Shaba (now known as Katanga); the local government asks the US, France and Belgium to restore order.

- 1981 – Francis Hughes, Provisional IRA hunger striker, dies in the Maze Prison, Northern Ireland.

- 1982 – During a procession outside the shrine of the Virgin Mary in Fátima, Portugal, security guards overpower Juan María Fernández y Krohn before he can attack Pope John Paul II with a bayonet.

- 1989 – The San Bernardino train disaster kills four people. A week later an underground gasoline pipeline explodes killing two more people.

- 1998 – Four students are shot at Trisakti University, leading to widespread riots and the fall of Suharto.

- 2002 – Former US President Jimmy Carter arrives in Cuba for a five-day visit with Fidel Castro, becoming the first President of the United States, in or out of office, to visit the island since Castro's 1959 revolution.

- 2003 – The Riyadh compound bombings, carried out by al-Qaeda, kill 26 people.

- 2006 – Mass unrest by the Primeiro Comando da Capital begins in São Paulo (Brazil), leaving at least 150 dead.

- 2006 – Iranian Azeris interpret a cartoon published in an Iranian magazine as insulting, resulting in massive riots throughout the country.

- 2008 – An earthquake (measuring around 8.0 magnitude) occurs in Sichuan, China, killing over 69,000 people.

- 2008 – U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement conducts the largest-ever raid of a workplace in Postville, Iowa, arresting nearly 400 immigrants for identity theft and document fraud.

- 2015 – A train derailment in Philadelphia kills eight people and injures more than 200.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1670 – Augustus II the Strong, Polish king

- 1803 – Justus von Liebig, German chemist and academic

- 1820 – Florence Nightingale, Italian-English nurse, social reformer, and statistician

- 1845 – Gabriel Fauré, French pianist, composer, and educator

- 1889 – Otto Frank, German-Swiss businessman and Holocaust survivor; father of diarist Anne Frank

- 1907 – Katharine Hepburn, American actress

- 1910 – Dorothy Hodgkin, English biochemist, crystallographer, and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1921 – Joseph Beuys, German sculptor and illustrator

- 1928 – Burt Bacharach, American singer-songwriter, pianist, and producer

- 1929 – Sam Nujoma, Namibian politician, 1st President of Namibia

- 1947 – Rolf Zuckowski, German singer, composer and Liedermacher

- 1946 – Daniel Libeskind, American architect, designed the Imperial War Museum North and Jewish Museum

- 1963 – Gavin Hood, South African actor, director, producer, and screenwriter

- 1968 – Tony Hawk, American skateboarder and actor

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Quote of the day

The greatest heroes are those who do their duty in the daily grind of domestic affairs whilst the world whirls as a maddening dreidel.

- Florence Nightingale -

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Jaslandia, Minnesota Dakota, Percyton

Kalaron wrote:Yup, but it's still sad though.

I don't know, the world has trained me to personify objects like Satellites as being sad explorers of a sort since thry burn out their batteries long before they'll be able to return, normally.

Something about a satellite sending it's last pulse back to us from some ten million miles out in the black makes me feel a tad melancholy.

https://xkcd.com/695/

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Friedensreich wrote:Be careful when playing race cards, because there are bound to be some people that will beg to differ *ahem* me being a Cracker Jack and never getting caught for half the sh!te I do *ahem*.

So you do bad things and never get disciplined for it?

Unfallious wrote:https://xkcd.com/695/

Why'd you have to do us like that, XKCD? D:

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Watching the BBC dramatisation Charles III.

It's interesting how all 3 Charles in British history have, or will likely rule, during periods of cataclysmic change to the British political structure. With Charles I it was his own execution and abolition of the monarchy, with Charles II it was the Restoration and with the third we'll likely see further change to the monarchy or perhaps its abolition once again.

Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Unfallious wrote:Watching the BBC dramatisation Charles III.

It's interesting how all 3 Charles in British history have, or will likely rule, during periods of cataclysmic change to the British political structure. With Charles I it was his own execution and abolition of the monarchy, with Charles II it was the Restoration and with the third we'll likely see further change to the monarchy or perhaps its abolition once again.

I wouldn't be too surprised if he took a different regnal name. Like you said, things were a little awry during the first two Charles' monarchies that it just seems like a bad omen.

I think there's no chance in hell, however, that his rule will result in the abolition of the monarchy, however.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I wouldn't be too surprised if he took a different regnal name. Like you said, things were a little awry during the first two Charles' monarchies that it just seems like a bad omen.

I think there's no chance in hell, however, that his rule will result in the abolition of the monarchy, however.

I dunno. I think in the UK at least the monarchy is somewhat partially propped up by the national endearment towards the Queen and her passing may just be a revelation of the outdated status of such an institution. At no other time since likely her own coronation will so much attention be paid to the monarchy as an institution as during the upheaval of an interregnum period.

Yukona

Unfallious wrote:I dunno. I think in the UK at least the monarchy is somewhat partially propped up by the national endearment towards the Queen and her passing may just be a revelation of the outdated status of such an institution. At no other time since likely her own coronation will so much attention be paid to the monarchy as an institution as during the upheaval of an interregnum period.

I don't think it's so much a love for the monarchy that will keep it in place as it is an aversion to the amount of effort that will be necessary to get rid of it.

Constitutional reformating, an overhaul of government and parliamentary procedures and customs, negotiations with other nations that recognize the same monarchy as their own.

Don't get me wrong- I'm not monarchist, my love for Queen E notwithstanding. But I just don't think anyone will be willing to take up the mantle any time soon.

Jaslandia

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:

- Fintastic Friday: Giving Sharks a Voice

What does that even mean? Sharks can't even speak! Sharks are sea animals (and fairly dangerous ones at that), not a repressed ethnic minority.

Unfallious wrote:I dunno. I think in the UK at least the monarchy is somewhat partially propped up by the national endearment towards the Queen and her passing may just be a revelation of the outdated status of such an institution. At no other time since likely her own coronation will so much attention be paid to the monarchy as an institution as during the upheaval of an interregnum period.

I'm not British so I could be wrong, but it seems like even if you exclude popular opinion of the monarchy in general, other royals like William and Kate are also fairly popular; Charles is the only one people really dislike. If Charles doesn't abdicate, I imagine a lot of people will just live with him for a while knowing that William will become King once Charles kicks the bucket.

Penguania And Antarctica

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:I'm not a pig.

A babe in English (at least America) is someone you love. I remember we talked about babe = pig, which was new to me.

Penguania And Antarctica

Baxten wrote:A babe in English (at least America) is someone you love. I remember we talked about babe = pig, which was new to me.

You've never seen the movie Babe?

I mean, yes, babe is of course meant the way you've described it here.

But seriously, you've never seen Babe? But Bax- a little pig goes a long way!

Penguania And Antarctica

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Toot toot :)

*whistles* Peep peep! Hello! Sorry I've been gone a few days: I've been a lot more busy with work lately, especially since a few engines are in the Steamworks for overhauls right now, so I need to help do their work in the meantime.

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:

Famous Birthdays:

I'd like to add one:

- 1937 - George Carlin, American comedian, actor, author and social critic. He also narrated the U.S. version of my TV show during seasons 1-4 (he re-narrated over Ringo Starr during seasons 1 and 2), and he's actually a pretty cool guy. He came to Sodor a couple of times, and we really enjoyed his company. Donald and Douglas even gave George some ideas for his comedy routine!

*sigh* George is dead now, though. RIP George. We still miss you, buddy.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, James The Red Engine

Also, the people at HIT Entertainment and Mattel wanted me to tell you about the upcoming Thomas and Friends special: Journey Beyond Sodor! It looks really exciting, and I look forward to seeing the finished product! I've linked to the U.S. and U.K. trailers down below.

https://youtu.be/jusEVahyDa8

https://youtu.be/Zg7e7F2xUnI

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, James The Red Engine

Percyton wrote:*whistles* Peep peep! Hello! Sorry I've been gone a few days: I've been a lot more busy with work lately, especially since a few engines are in the Steamworks for overhauls right now, so I need to help do their work in the meantime.

I'd like to add one:

- 1937 - George Carlin, American comedian, actor, author and social critic. He also narrated the U.S. version of my TV show during seasons 1-4 (he re-narrated over Ringo Starr during seasons 1 and 2), and he's actually a pretty cool guy. He came to Sodor a couple of times, and we really enjoyed his company. Donald and Douglas even gave George some ideas for his comedy routine!

*sigh* George is dead now, though. RIP George. We still miss you, buddy.

Hello Percy! Good to see you again!

Percyton wrote:Also, the people at HIT Entertainment and Mattel wanted me to tell you about the upcoming Thomas and Friends special: Journey Beyond Sodor! It looks really exciting, and I look forward to seeing the finished product! I've linked to the U.S. and U.K. trailers down below.

https://youtu.be/jusEVahyDa8

https://youtu.be/Zg7e7F2xUnI

Looks interesting. I have a few complaints and critiques, but it has potential. Is this special based on stuff that actually happened to you and the other engines?

Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton, James The Red Engine

Jaslandia wrote:Hello Percy! Good to see you again!

Looks interesting. I have a few complaints and critiques, but it has potential. Is this special based on stuff that actually happened to you and the other engines?

Thanks! You too, Jas! Journey Beyond Sodor is at least partly based on real events. However, due to my contract with HIT, I can't tell you anything more until the special comes out. Sorry about that.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, James The Red Engine

Hey [nation=short]nuremgard[/nation] I know you watched Charles III, are we supposed to feel good that Charles abdicated at the end of the show? In my view he was fulfilling the requirement of King, blocking a bill that sought to curtail the freedom of the press. Kate came off as vain, ambitious and power-hungry and William as fundamentally weak. I couldn't watch the end, seeing the monarchy rendered impotent under a truly ceremonial and shallow royal couple was frankly rage-inducing.

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica

Percyton wrote:Thanks! You too, Jas! Journey Beyond Sodor is at least partly based on real events. However, due to my contract with HIT, I can't tell you anything more until the special comes out. Sorry about that.

No worries. I understand: Contracts are contracts, and I doubt any of us would want to get in a legal dispute with a giant like HIT/Mattel.

Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton, James The Red Engine

Unfallious wrote:Hey [nation=short]nuremgard[/nation] I know you watched Charles III, are we supposed to feel good that Charles abdicated at the end of the show? In my view he was fulfilling the requirement of King, blocking a bill that sought to curtail the freedom of the press. Kate came off as vain, ambitious and power-hungry and William as fundamentally weak. I couldn't watch the end, seeing the monarchy rendered impotent under a truly ceremonial and shallow royal couple was frankly rage-inducing.

I think we were supposed to feel bad for Charles. He was portrayed very sympathetically. You'l be surprised by this but I agreed with the government wanting to regulate the press. However, I admired Charles and his principles. I admired him for the fact that he saw the monarchy as important to defending the people's liberty, and holding the government to account. I felt that Charles was bullied by his obnoxious family into renouncing the throne. I felt sorry for him.

Kate wants the monarchy to survive so that she can live the good life, and to ensure her children and their children live the good life. But in order to do that, the monarchy must be apolitical and just look pretty. That's why I found Charles' last words poignant. "My son. God save you."

He was not joyously celebrating by calling on God to save the King. He was saying "God save you, because you've sacrificed your principles and sold your soul just to make the monarchy survive and be impotent, rather than fall and have it mean something."

That was how I interpreted it at least. It made me think on how I am conflicted about the monarchy's power. On the one hand, I'd like rid of it. On the other hand, a monarch with real power could hold a nasty government in check, like the current one we have in Westminster.

All in all, a very enjoyable and thought-provoking programme. I thought the Shakespearean monologues throughout were well done. Sorry for the long post.

Unfallious

Percyton wrote:Donald and Douglas even gave George some ideas for his comedy routine!

Donald: Aye! Indeed we did! We enjoyed George fur both his narration an' his comedy, sae we figured we'd gie him a wee help.

Douglas: He liked our jokes, but since most of them waur about Scotland an' England, he didne hink he'd hae much use fur them. A shame really.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, Percyton, James The Red Engine

Percyton wrote:*whistles* Peep peep! Hello! Sorry I've been gone a few days: I've been a lot more busy with work lately, especially since a few engines are in the Steamworks for overhauls right now, so I need to help do their work in the meantime.

I'd like to add one:

- 1937 - George Carlin, American comedian, actor, author and social critic. He also narrated the U.S. version of my TV show during seasons 1-4 (he re-narrated over Ringo Starr during seasons 1 and 2), and he's actually a pretty cool guy. He came to Sodor a couple of times, and we really enjoyed his company. Donald and Douglas even gave George some ideas for his comedy routine!

*sigh* George is dead now, though. RIP George. We still miss you, buddy.

Hey Percy! How've you been?

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton, James The Red Engine

Andromitus wrote:Hey Percy! How've you been?

Hey Andy (I can call you Andy, right?)! I've been swell! Just a bit busier than usual. How are you?

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, James The Red Engine

Holy fvck, Chancellor trounced the other options. Which I'm okay with. As long as it wasn't President or Premier.

Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Aldaur wrote:So you do bad things and never get disciplined for it?

Define "bad things".

Aldaur

Percyton wrote:Hey Andy (I can call you Andy, right?)! I've been swell! Just a bit busier than usual. How are you?

You sure as hēll can call me Andy lol; I've been pretty busy too, Independent Assignments just suck.so.much :-|

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton, James The Red Engine

Aldaur wrote:So you do bad things and never get disciplined for it?

It's true. Fifty years of applied behaviour analysis has proven beyond nary a doubt that the only way to correct behaviour is with a good old fashion beating.

Aldaur

Continental Commonwealths wrote:It's true. Fifty years of applied behaviour analysis has proven beyond nary a doubt that the only way to correct behaviour is with a good old fashion beating.

Source; Peer review; Triple-blind study; Are the effects worth potential psychological damage to the next generation of Humankind?

Andromitus wrote:Source; Peer review; Triple-blind study; Are the effects worth potential psychological damage to the next generation of Humankind?

In the immortal words of B.F. Skinner, "The savager, the better. They roll their eyes, you take their eyes. They bite you, you make a necklace of teeth. Always have a polearm handy. You're not raising soft, maleable children- you're fighting a war that would make Gallipoli look like a chess game."

Aldaur

Andromitus wrote:Source; Peer review; Triple-blind study; Are the effects worth potential psychological damage to the next generation of Humankind?

Not to say I agree with hitting your kids, but the notion that it causes psychological damage is unfounded. People have beaten their kids for thousands of years and we still got to here. The notion that hitting your kids is unacceptable is actually a belief that has only come around in the last 30-40 years.

Of course, people are weird creatures and some people will suffer psychological damage from beatings, just like some will suffer the same from neglect or inadequate parenting. I fundamentally believe that in order to raise children in a world of social hierarchy you must establish that hierarchy within the household from an early age. Parents must exert their power over their children. This can be done without hitting your kids and really good parents can do that, but if you're unable to then physical discipline is a bona fide way of behaviour correction and power projection. I'd rather have a child that I'm forced to reluctantly discipline than have a child who cannot function in a hierarchical world because I failed them.

Aldaur

Continental Commonwealths wrote:In the immortal words of B.F. Skinner, "The savager, the better. They roll their eyes, you take their eyes. They bite you, you make a necklace of teeth. Always have a polearm handy. You're not raising soft, maleable children- you're fighting a war that would make Gallipoli look like a chess game."

You're most likely on a CPS blacklist now...

Friedensreich wrote:Define "bad things".

Misbehavior, whatever that may be.

Unfallious wrote:Not to say I agree with hitting your kids, but the notion that it causes psychological damage is unfounded. People have beaten their kids for thousands of years and we still got to here. The notion that hitting your kids is unacceptable is actually a belief that has only come around in the last 30-40 years.

Of course, people are weird creatures and some people will suffer psychological damage from beatings, just like some will suffer the same from neglect or inadequate parenting. I fundamentally believe that in order to raise children in a world of social hierarchy you must establish that hierarchy within the household from an early age. Parents must exert their power over their children. This can be done without hitting your kids and really good parents can do that, but if you're unable to then physical discipline is a bona fide way of behaviour correction and power projection. I'd rather have a child that I'm forced to reluctantly discipline than have a child who cannot function in a hierarchical world because I failed them.

This ^^

It's not like people want to beat their kids, but sometimes you have to. As long it is with love and to discipline the child, it is not a problem. I can really only see psychological damage if the parent does it to vent anger, which is not discipline, but abuse. That is different. Kids need discipline, not abuse.

Aldaur wrote:Misbehavior, whatever that may be.

This ^^

It's not like people want to beat their kids, but sometimes you have to. As long it is with love and to discipline the child, it is not a problem. I can really only see psychological damage if the parent does it to vent anger, which is not discipline, but abuse. That is different. Kids need discipline, not abuse.

I mean, you're going to have to list them out, because the definition of "misbehavior" in my family is definitely not normal.

Aldaur

Friedensreich wrote:I mean, you're going to have to list them out, because the definition of "misbehavior" in my family is definitely not normal.

Sigh... just breaking conventional rules set by family and/or society.

Unfallious wrote:Not to say I agree with hitting your kids, but the notion that it causes psychological damage is unfounded. People have beaten their kids for thousands of years and we still got to here. The notion that hitting your kids is unacceptable is actually a belief that has only come around in the last 30-40 years.

Of course, people are weird creatures and some people will suffer psychological damage from beatings, just like some will suffer the same from neglect or inadequate parenting. I fundamentally believe that in order to raise children in a world of social hierarchy you must establish that hierarchy within the household from an early age. Parents must exert their power over their children. This can be done without hitting your kids and really good parents can do that, but if you're unable to then physical discipline is a bona fide way of behaviour correction and power projection. I'd rather have a child that I'm forced to reluctantly discipline than have a child who cannot function in a hierarchical world because I failed them.

Some kids need a smack.

Aldaur

Friedensreich wrote:You're most likely on a CPS blacklist now...

Crop Production Services? There's no way they can prove that my backwards rain dances are responsible for those forest fires.

Jaslandia

I mean, you guys don't have to smack kids to teach them a lesson. You could always talk to them, displine them through non-physical means, or even send them to a professional if you think the problem is systemic. But coming from a kid who took regular beatings from a belt for doing things like getting a D in math, I don't think it's absolutely necessary. UNLESS, your kid is physical themselves. Then in that case, go ahead.

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Magnatronia wrote:I mean, you guys don't have to smack kids to teach them a lesson. You could always talk to them, displine them through non-physical means, or even send them to a professional if you think the problem is systemic. But coming from a kid who took regular beatings from a belt for doing things like getting a D in math, I don't think it's absolutely necessary. UNLESS, your kid is physical themselves. Then in that case, go ahead.

Being beaten for getting low grades isn't discipline. It's abuse.

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Magnatronia wrote:I mean, you guys don't have to smack kids to teach them a lesson. You could always talk to them, displine them through non-physical means, or even send them to a professional if you think the problem is systemic. But coming from a kid who took regular beatings from a belt for doing things like getting a D in math, I don't think it's absolutely necessary. UNLESS, your kid is physical themselves. Then in that case, go ahead.

Yup, agree'd here.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Magnatronia

Nuremgard wrote:Being beaten for getting low grades isn't discipline. It's abuse.

And I don't see how hitting your kids for other reasons isn't abuse too. Unless your kid is capable of getting physical and actually hurting you (some big ass kid) then literally any other form of discipline would suffice.

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Aldaur wrote:Sigh... just breaking conventional rules set by family and/or society.

Ok, that is obscenely vague.

I'll do the same.... They don't really care about what I do as long as I don't get caught and respect them.

Aldaur

What Maggie said. And also, the sentence "the notion that it causes psychological damage is unfounded" is what's truly unfounded. There are plenty of reputable studies that find significance in the statement that physical punishment has negative effects on children. I wanted to cite a few, but there were so many because if you go on any reputable psyc database you get enough results that you could start reading today and you wouldn't make it to the end of the results before your own death decades from now. There's even strong indicators that verbal aggression in the form of yelling on frequent occassion has negative psychological effects on children, especially when employed on young children. The fact that the psychological community is united against the use of physical methods of discipline isn't a conspiracy conjured up by the powerful Treat Our Kids Like Teddy Bears lobby.

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Magnatronia wrote:I mean, you guys don't have to smack kids to teach them a lesson. You could always talk to them, displine them through non-physical means, or even send them to a professional if you think the problem is systemic. But coming from a kid who took regular beatings from a belt for doing things like getting a D in math, I don't think it's absolutely necessary. UNLESS, your kid is physical themselves. Then in that case, go ahead.

There's no need for it if you can treat your child like the human being it is and sit down with them and talk. Beatings are a last resort and should never be used because little Johnny spilled some grape juice on the carpet or Abby drew on the wall. And goodness forbid if I ever beat my children because they don't get straight A's.

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Continental Commonwealths wrote:Holy fvck, Chancellor trounced the other options. Which I'm okay with. As long as it wasn't President or Premier.

A surprise to be sure but a welcome one

ill try to some RP today/This weekend.

Ive been confused and really slacking

sorry.

Continental Commonwealths wrote:What Maggie said. And also, the sentence "the notion that it causes psychological damage is unfounded" is what's truly unfounded. There are plenty of reputable studies that find significance in the statement that physical punishment has negative effects on children. I wanted to cite a few, but there were so many because if you go on any reputable psyc database you get enough results that you could start reading today and you wouldn't make it to the end of the results before your own death decades from now. There's even strong indicators that verbal aggression in the form of yelling on frequent occassion has negative psychological effects on children, especially when employed on young children. The fact that the psychological community is united against the use of physical methods of discipline isn't a conspiracy conjured up by the powerful Treat Our Kids Like Teddy Bears lobby.

Basic Law Article 2

"(1) Every person shall have the right to free development of his personality insofar as he does not violate the rights of others or offend against the constitutional order or the moral law.

(2) Every person shall have the right to life and physical integrity. Freedom of the person shall be inviolable. These rights may be interfered with only pursuant to a law."

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German Civil Code Section 1631

"(1) The care for the person of the child includes without limitation the duty and the right to care for, bring up and supervise the child and to specify its abode.

(2) Children have a right to non-violent upbringing. Physical punishments, psychological injuries and other degrading measures are inadmissible.

(3) The family court is to support the parents, on application, in exercising care for the person of the child in suitable cases."

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Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Basic Law Article 2

"(1) Every person shall have the right to free development of his personality insofar as he does not violate the rights of others or offend against the constitutional order or the moral law.

(2) Every person shall have the right to life and physical integrity. Freedom of the person shall be inviolable. These rights may be interfered with only pursuant to a law."

____________________________________________________________________________________________

German Civil Code Section 1631

"(1) The care for the person of the child includes without limitation the duty and the right to care for, bring up and supervise the child and to specify its abode.

(2) Children have a right to non-violent upbringing. Physical punishments, psychological injuries and other degrading measures are inadmissible.

(3) The family court is to support the parents, on application, in exercising care for the person of the child in suitable cases."

Just my two cents in this debate.

Magnatronia

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Basic Law Article 2

"(1) Every person shall have the right to free development of his personality insofar as he does not violate the rights of others or offend against the constitutional order or the moral law.

(2) Every person shall have the right to life and physical integrity. Freedom of the person shall be inviolable. These rights may be interfered with only pursuant to a law."

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German Civil Code Section 1631

"(1) The care for the person of the child includes without limitation the duty and the right to care for, bring up and supervise the child and to specify its abode.

(2) Children have a right to non-violent upbringing. Physical punishments, psychological injuries and other degrading measures are inadmissible.

(3) The family court is to support the parents, on application, in exercising care for the person of the child in suitable cases."

Glad to see the German government agrees with me!

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Aldaur wrote:Misbehavior, whatever that may be.

This ^^

It's not like people want to beat their kids, but sometimes you have to. As long it is with love and to discipline the child, it is not a problem. I can really only see psychological damage if the parent does it to vent anger, which is not discipline, but abuse. That is different. Kids need discipline, not abuse.

Beat them with love

I get what you're saying, but that is the most oxymoronic thing I've ever heard lol

Aghrabia, Aldaur

Nuremgard wrote:Being beaten for getting low grades isn't discipline. It's abuse.

My mother used to go into rage if I had bad grades, often resulting in me getting hit in some way.

Baxten wrote:Beat them with love

I get what you're saying, but that is the most oxymoronic thing I've ever heard lol

You know, like husbands used to be allowed to do with their wives.

I mean, we've allowed "spousal correction" up until almost this point in history, and we're still here. That must count for something.

Baxten wrote:Beat them with love

I get what you're saying, but that is the most oxymoronic thing I've ever heard lol

Not true. You beat them to discipline them because you love them and want them to do well.

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Basic Law Article 2

"(1) Every person shall have the right to free development of his personality insofar as he does not violate the rights of others or offend against the constitutional order or the moral law.

(2) Every person shall have the right to life and physical integrity. Freedom of the person shall be inviolable. These rights may be interfered with only pursuant to a law."

____________________________________________________________________________________________

German Civil Code Section 1631

"(1) The care for the person of the child includes without limitation the duty and the right to care for, bring up and supervise the child and to specify its abode.

(2) Children have a right to non-violent upbringing. Physical punishments, psychological injuries and other degrading measures are inadmissible.

(3) The family court is to support the parents, on application, in exercising care for the person of the child in suitable cases."

I agree, and disagree with beating children. When the little shot is going on a rampage they may need a good arse whipping. But at the same time, children shouldn't be beaten for every little thing.

Aldaur wrote:Not true. You beat them to discipline them because you love them and want them to do well.

No, I get what you're saying. I'm just saying it sounds like that. Personally, I think everyone is free to do what they want, so long as it doesn't get out of hand. Now would I suggest corporal punishment, absolutely not. However, they're not my kids.

Aldaur

What you people talking about?

Russian Fedration

Latrovia wrote:What you people talking about?

Beating kids.

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Latrovia wrote:What you people talking about?

Talking? This isn't talking, we're simply traveling through vast and unknowable fields of sh!t.

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Magnatronia wrote:Beating kids.

Ah that is so cool, beat those mofos up! :P

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Andromitus wrote:Talking? This isn't talking, we're simply traveling through vast and unknowable fields of sh!t.

Well sounds like you're travelling through Magnatoria to me.

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Latrovia wrote:Well sounds like you're travelling through Magnatoria to me.

Hey, that might be true, but

No wait, that's entirely true

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Sulania wrote:My mother used to go into rage if I had bad grades, often resulting in me getting hit in some way.

Your mum and Mag's dad sound unhinged.

Aldaur

Magnatronia wrote:Hey, that might be true, but

No wait, that's entirely true

Thank God you did not get offended. I mean, you do tend to throw nukes on yourself and sh1t :p

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Nuremgard wrote:Your mum and Mag's dad sound unhinged.

*Mom. Don't have a dad.

Merlinton, Penguania And Antarctica

I went to sleep at 11 PM last night. This so far as I am concerned is late, but an acceptable bed time.

I slept til 3 PM today. What the duck happened?

Also I seem to have missed a whole lot, at least TG wise. So forgive me people whom it matters to for not replying. Most of them seem to have gotten deleted by my inbox limit. I think. I certainly got bits and pieces of conversations.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:Your mum and Mag's dad sound unhinged.

And nah, they just took your advice. "Sometimes you just have to smack your kid" or however you put it.

Magnatronia wrote:And nah, they just took your advice. "Sometimes you just have to smack your kid" or however you put it.

Smacking your kid when they are out of control and behaving very badly is reasonable. Smacking your kid for doing poorly in school is abusive.

Aldaur

Tserra wrote:I went to sleep at 11 PM last night. This so far as I am concerned is late, but an acceptable bed time.

I slept til 3 PM today. What the duck happened?

Also I seem to have missed a whole lot, at least TG wise. So forgive me people whom it matters to for not replying. Most of them seem to have gotten deleted by my inbox limit. I think. I certainly got bits and pieces of conversations.

11pm is early I tell ya, I'd be thoroughly proud of myself if I went to sleep at that time.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Tserra

Unfallious wrote:11pm is early I tell ya, I'd be thoroughly proud of myself if I went to sleep at that time.

Same, I normally go to sleep at like 1 am.

Jaslandia

Valturus the current Minister of Foreign Affairs in TVF - offered today to our Ministry of Foreign Affairs a proposal that all businesses should be handled through Oelesa. This was his middle ground to open embassies with the COFN.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs did not take this lightly. Not only we found this offensive, but we pointed out that his actions in the first place were unethical, undiplomatic and highly offensive towards our people. As we tried our best convincing him to reconsider and not close embassies.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs immediately rejected his proposal and informed both our region and their region through Discord that, we will be negotiating the opening of embassies with them once Valturus loses office and if he loses office.

Our region has both tolerance and intolerance when it comes to people trying to treat us as any less than them. Mutual relationships, require mutual respect and understanding.

In case someone is against my decision, I am open to hear your opinions and work things out with you all.

~ Lat.

Friedensreich

Latrovia wrote:/snip

Forgive me, but I'm not sure I understand. He was okay with us reopening diplomatic relations between our regions, but only if Oel was his contact? Not you as our Minister of Foreign Affairs? Do I understand this correctly?

Aldaur

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Forgive me, but I'm not sure I understand. He was okay with us reopening diplomatic relations between our regions, but only if Oel was his contact? Not you as our Minister of Foreign Affairs? Do I understand this correctly?

Our latest chat:

Daniel - Today at 10:25 PM

Lat, I'd be open to an embassy if we worked through Oel.

Latrovia - Today at 10:25 PM

please elaborate

Daniel Prime - Today at 10:26 PM

So instead of us having direct communications in a sense, such as me joining the CoFN discord or you working through TVF discord - we could use Oel as an effective middle man, basically an envoy between the two regions that allow for minimum contact between me and your guys but allow for a relationship.

It'd also mean I wouldn't have to delegate the duties to another person, such as my vice, making the decision process more effective in the future.

Plus, Oel has an investment in this relationship being prosperous as he wants the two regions to be allies - making him the perfect person to do this.

Oel said he'll do it.

Just depends on whether or not you'll agree.

Latrovia - Today at 10:33 PM

Theres absolutely no way that I would agree on this

Daniel Prime - Today at 10:33 PM

Why not?

Latrovia - Today at 10:34 PM

COFN and TVF will be opening embassies once you're out of office and that is if you do get out of office

Your actions offended all of us, they were undiplomatic, unethical and certainly our Foreign Affairs does not take gently what you said

Once you're out we will be renegotiating with your region

Friedensreich

Oh. Well. Valt doesn't dictate the structure of our government. We elected an MoFA. If he doesn't want to work with our MoFA, which is basically his counterpart in our region, then it's a non-starter.

That is, if I'm understanding this situation properly.

This really just seems as though it's grown to be entirely overdramatic. Which is so unlike Valt 🙄

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Aldaur, Friedensreich, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Oh. Well. Valt doesn't dictate the structure of our government. We elected an MoFA. If he doesn't want to work with our MoFA, which is basically his counterpart in our region, then it's a non-starter.

That is, if I'm understanding this situation properly.

This really just seems as though it's grown to be entirely overdramatic. Which is so unlike Valt 🙄

The way I see it is quite simple. The fact that he refused to not close embassies in the first place, dissatisfied many of his people. He is under a lot of drama and many negative comments. We almost begged him to reconsider and he literally never had any second thoughts over it.

Now he wants us to be tolerant and be the nice guys by accepting yet another offensive counter-proposal. I said no, not because I don't want to open embassies our create an alliance with the TVF. But because we're no kids or stupid to allow Valt treating us as he wishes. Plus all of this, him acting like all nice suddenly is something I am not falling for.

There was no way that I would allow Valt taking pride in "successfully re-opening embassies with the COFN". So looking with my "long-term objective eye". I want to create relations with a region that Valt is basically out of the way.

Imagine our relations being shaky the entire time and depend on his constant change of moods. That'd be a living disaster.

So once he is out we will start negotiations.

Jaslandia, Friedensreich, Oelesa

Goodnight all. Love you. <3

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Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Goodnight all. Love you. <3

Goodnight, Peng!

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Latrovia wrote:The way I see it is quite simple. The fact that he refused to not close embassies in the first place, dissatisfied many of his people. He is under a lot of drama and many negative comments. We almost begged him to reconsider and he literally never had any second thoughts over it.

Now he wants us to be tolerant and be the nice guys by accepting yet another offensive counter-proposal. I said no, not because I don't want to open embassies our create an alliance with the TVF. But because we're no kids or stupid to allow Valt treating us as he wishes. Plus all of this, him acting like all nice suddenly is something I am not falling for.

There was no way that I would allow Valt taking pride in "successfully re-opening embassies with the COFN". So looking with my "long-term objective eye". I want to create relations with a region that Valt is basically out of the way.

Imagine our relations being shaky the entire time and depend on his constant change of moods. That'd be a living disaster.

So once he is out we will start negotiations.

Tell me, how important are pur relations with TVF?

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