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Region: The Confederacy of Free Nations
Where? And how?
My treasury, and selling to the black market.
The black market nor your treasury won't make up for the hundreds of billions it'll take to produce this futuristic weapon of imagination.
Actually its available today
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_Weapon_System
I stand corrected. However, putting them at mass production is improbable; the US only has one.
Yukona
Laser beams are silly and not modern tech. Post-modern includes tech that's available today in prototype stages. This is not a PMT region.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_Weapon_System again, its availible in us navy
For field testing. That's a prototype.
Yukona
No its out of the prototype stage and has been for a while now
Either way it's still not a mass-produced piece of tech and very much falls under the category of PMT.
Just to give a more public notice, I'm out with the Flu, and have been since Saturday. I will likely, and hopefully, be better sometime this week.
Penguania And Antarctica
*Snooty Voice* I've moved beyond the petty technologies of the early industrial age
Continental Commonwealths, Penguania And Antarctica
I mean, have fun if a piece of shrapnel hits the lens, or the waters churn enough to cover that thing in water, or using it in a powerful storm, or....
You see my point.
Besides, the blackmarket will be less than useful for this, seeing as You need skilled operators, repairmen, power generation in the kilowatts and the facilities to repair this weapon too.
Yukona
Take your time :)
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
For reference, the XN-1 laW System was declared fully operational aboard the USS Ponce in 2010, and the RP world [Based off the now official RP Map] is set in 2020, so it's reasonable to accept that a laWS could be operation on, per say, 2-3 major class ships.
I have to stress, however, that it would only be possible on a very very very VERY VERY [do you hear me screaming VERY] small scale. I cannot stress that MORE! A scale including like, 3-4 or 2-3 warships that are solely dedicated to the wartime use of this weapon. AND ONLY THEN, those ships REQUIRE on board high-yield fission reactors.
This concluding, an RP able nation, of high-ranking level of scientific advancement, arms development, nuclear infrastructure and mining. And, to be fair, the laWS and its now underdevelopment XN-2 system is only good against small aircraft. So sadly, it's not really worth it until further development in the real world proves it possible to have more variable use, at least in the case of weaponry
Tserra
do you really think that I would install a naval weapon and not make it waterproof?
It's not a problem of waterproofing it's a fundamental flaw in the weapon if you know how it works
Kalaron
That...is not what I meant.
Water tends to refract and deflect light, and the use of lasers during a storm or afterwards would be highly impacted.
Yukona
You misunderstand. This region is modern tech. It's not 'hypothetical tech in 2020'. The date has no bearing on the technological level of the world and is simply used as a measure of time to judge when events occurred on the RP timeline.
Additionally, what constitutes a scientifically advanced nation is not clear and has never been defined so until something is established we must assume that everyone is on the same base level.
basically turning it into a laser shogun of sorts, correct?
Hardly.
It would reduce the power of each well below a fraction of what it was and make it near useless.
Yukona
what if I just keep the lens covered until its needed to be used?
You'll need to uncover it, and storms are still a issue.
Yukona
its hard to fly in storms, you know.
You...
Fly a boat?
Also, battles still happen during them.
Yeah, their called Airships for a reason you know. (sorry I just had to make that joke)
Jaslandia
No problem on the joke, but still.
The system has issues to the max, and I think it might be better if you designed one since it has a ton of advantages.
Such as?
Also, im thinking about creating a tesla cannon of sorts.
I hope you're aware that airships and such are not going to be usable in regional RPs.
aw, why not?
What. Venezuela has the most oil, just ahead of Saudi Arabia. Iran is 4th
http://geab.eu/en/top-10-countries-with-the-worlds-biggest-oil-reserves/
Unless you're talking about like actual blimps with all the features of real world blimps they won't exactly fall under what constitutes modern tech.
I have a feeling that I'll need to write RP rules with Tech restrictions and all that with the geopolitics stuff
Jaslandia, Freewire
Yeah, just decked out with weapons.
Are you aware of what's going to happen when a blimp comes up against like a jet?
You can do what you want, but everyone's AA will most likely shoot the blimps out of the sky
*sigh*
I'd like to welcome Walterstein to our region. I know him; pretty cool guy
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona
Excuse my: Walterstien
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Walterstien
Hello and welcome.
Make yourself at home and enjoy your stay.
I am Peng.
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Freewire, Walterstien
AND I AM AWESOME
A GOD OF AWESOMENESS [nation=short]Walterstien[/nation]
Welcome!
Jaslandia, Baxten, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, Walterstien
They simply aren't practical :P
Like knowing exactly the specifications of what you're talking about, and having a basic doctrine written for what it is and how to use it effectively while countering any weaknesses.
I hope you enjoy burning money, because that's gonna die.
Freewire, Yukona
Welcome to the CoFN, Walterstien!
Vista Major
Well, off to find stories I go for the Tribune!
This is [nation=short]Freewire[/nation] by the way
The United Providences Of Perland
I'm sorry dude, but you gotta at least have a basic understanding of your own technology. Even I agreed to keep it mostly modern tech.
Hello people.
[spoiler=Today are:]
Today are:
- Balloon Ascension Day
- Hōonkō (Jōdo Shinshū Buddhism)
- Martyrs' Day (Panama)
- National Apricot Day (United States)
- National Cassoulet Day (United States)
- National Clean Off Your Desk Day (United States)
- National Static Electricity Day (United States)
- Non-Resident Indian Day (India)
- Peace Agreement Day (South Sudan)
- Play God Day
- Republic Day (Republic of Srpska)
- Word Nerd Day
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[spoiler=This day in history:]
This day in history:
- 475 – Byzantine Emperor Zeno is forced to flee his capital at Constantinople, and his general, Basiliscus gains control of the empire.
- 681 – Twelfth Council of Toledo: King Erwig of the Visigoths initiates a council in which he implements diverse measures against the Jews in Spain.
- 1349 – The Jewish population of Basel, believed by the residents to be the cause of the ongoing Black Death, is rounded up and incinerated.
- 1431 – Judges' investigations for the trial of Joan of Arc begin in Rouen, France, the seat of the English occupation government.
- 1788 – Connecticut becomes the fifth state to ratify the Constitution.
- 1792 – Treaty of Jassy between Russian and Ottoman Empire is signed.
- 1799 – British Prime Minister William Pitt the Younger introduces an income tax of two shillings to the pound to raise funds for Great Britain's war effort in the Napoleonic Wars.
- 1806 – Admiral Horatio Lord Nelson receives a state funeral and is interred in St Paul's Cathedral.
- 1816 – Sir Humphry Davy tests his safety lamp for miners at Hebburn Colliery.
- 1822 – The Portuguese prince Pedro I of Brazil decides to stay in Brazil against the orders of the Portuguese King João VI, beginning the Brazilian independence process.
- 1839 – The French Academy of Sciences announces the Daguerreotype photography process.
- 1861 – American Civil War: "Star of the West" incident occurs near Charleston, South Carolina.
- 1861 – Mississippi becomes the second state to secede from the Union before the outbreak of the American Civil War.
- 1878 – Umberto I becomes King of Italy.
- 1894 – New England Telephone and Telegraph installs the first battery-operated telephone switchboard in Lexington, Massachusetts.
- 1903 – Hallam Tennyson, 2nd Baron Tennyson, son of the poet Alfred Tennyson, becomes the second Governor-General of Australia.
- 1909 – Ernest Shackleton, leading the Nimrod Expedition to the South Pole, plants the British flag 97 nautical miles (180 km; 112 mi) from the South Pole, the farthest anyone had ever reached at that time.
- 1914 – Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity Inc., the first historically black intercollegiate Greek-letter fraternity to be officially recognized at Howard University, is founded.
- 1916 – World War I: The Battle of Gallipoli concludes with an Ottoman Empire victory when the last Allied forces are evacuated from the peninsula.
- 1917 – World War I: The Battle of Rafa is fought near the Egyptian border with Palestine.
- 1923 – Juan de la Cierva makes the first autogyro flight.
- 1923 – Lithuanian residents of the Memel Territory rebel against the League of Nations' decision to leave the area as a mandated region under French control.
- 1927 – A fire at the Laurier Palace movie theatre in Montreal, Quebec, Canada, kills 78 children.
- 1941 – World War II: First flight of the Avro Lancaster.
- 1945 – World War II: The Sixth United States Army begins the invasion of Lingayen Gulf.
- 1957 – British Prime Minister Sir Anthony Eden resigns from office following his failure to retake the Suez Canal from Egyptian sovereignty.
- 1960 – President of Egypt Gamal Abdel Nasser opens construction on the Aswan Dam by detonating ten tons of dynamite to demolish twenty tons of granite on the east bank of the Nile.
- 1964 – Martyrs' Day: Several Panamanian youths try to raise the Panamanian flag on the U.S.-controlled Panama Canal Zone, leading to fighting between U.S. military and Panamanian civilians.
- 1991 – Representatives from the United States and Iraq meet at the Geneva Peace Conference to try to find a peaceful resolution to the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait.
- 1992 – The Assembly of the Serb People in Bosnia and Herzegovina proclaims the creation of Republika Srpska, a new state within Yugoslavia.
- 2004 – An inflatable boat carrying illegal Albanian emigrants stalls near the Karaburun Peninsula while on the way to Brindisi, Italy; exposure to the elements kills 28.
- 2005 – Mahmoud Abbas wins the election to replace Yasser Arafat as President of the Palestinian National Authority. He replaces interim president Rawhi Fattouh.
- 2005 – The Sudan People's Liberation Movement and the Government of Sudan sign the Comprehensive Peace Agreement to end the Second Sudanese Civil War.
- 2007 – Apple CEO Steve Jobs introduces the original iPhone at a Macworld keynote in San Francisco.
- 2014 – An explosion at a Mitsubishi Materials chemical plant in Yokkaichi, Japan, kills at least five people and injures 17 others.
- 2015 – The perpetrators of the Charlie Hebdo shooting in Paris two days earlier are both killed after a hostage situation. Elsewhere, a second hostage situation, related to the Charlie Hebdo shooting, occurs at a Jewish market, Hypercacher, in Vincennes.
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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]
Famous Birthdays:
- 727 – Emperor Daizong of Tang
- 1870 – Joseph Strauss, American engineer, co-designed the Golden Gate Bridge
- 1879 – John B. Watson, American psychologist and academic
- 1890 – Kurt Tucholsky, German-Swedish journalist and author
- 1908 – Simone de Beauvoir, French philosopher and author
- 1913 – Richard Nixon, American commander, lawyer, and politician, 37th President of the United States
- 1922 – Ahmed Sékou Touré, Guinean politician, 1st President of Guinea
- 1929 – Heiner Müller, German poet, playwright, and director
- 1940 – Ruth Dreifuss, Swiss journalist and politician, 86th President of the Swiss Confederation
- 1941 – Joan Baez, American singer-songwriter, guitarist and activist
- 1944 – Jimmy Page, English guitarist, songwriter, and producer
- 1950 – Rio Reiser, German rock musician
- 1950 – Alec Jeffreys, English geneticist and academic
- 1955 – J.K. Simmons, American actor
- 1959 – Rigoberta Menchú, Guatemalan activist and politician, Nobel Prize laureate
- 1965 – Haddaway, Trinidadian-German singer and musician
- 1982 – Catherine Mountbatten-Windsor, Duchess of Cambridge
- 1987 – Paolo Nutini, Scottish singer-songwriter and guitarist
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Quote of the day
Education is what survives when what has been learned has been forgotten.
- B. F. Skinner -
Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Continental Commonwealths, Tserra, The United Providences Of Perland
I read this after sleeping for 2 hours in my history class, I just scrolled down and I can't stop laughing, ^^ isn't even that funny why am I like this
Still better than 96000 pounds :P
But yeah, glaring issue and all that.
A blimp with a laws system, pretty much.
Oh the humanity!
Jaslandia, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica
Is this RP separate to that civil war one?
Dude, that is incredibly impractical, first off, you'd need a sh$t ton, and I mean a f%cking sh$t ton of helium or hydrogen to keep that thing floating, alongside the fact that the power consumption for the laWS is big enough that it needs its own personal ship solely devoted to using it, and even in that case, a prominent laWS isn't completely functional, the US military, in this case the Shiva Star Project Head projected its completed timeline to the late 2020's.
I'd be surprised if you could get that blimp off the ground with all the fuel it has to carry, what with staying afloat, basic locomotion, on board communications and electrical systems, the laWS, plus the basic weight of all those supplies AND personnel to operate it! You'd have a sweet blimp, but it'd never fly, let alone actually aim and FIRE the laser :D And if you wen't up against a small squadron of modern aircraft, yea you'd take a few out, but the barrage of missiles fired would obliterate your flying whale of a blimp.
The math gets to a point were for every square meters worth of hydrogen/helium lift you add, the imposing weight of the overall structure would weigh it down MORE which would in turn require MORE hydrogen and so on and so forth FOREVER.
*Announcer Voice* and now their's a dog having s3x with a woman, oh the humanity even more right now I mean COME ON
Jaslandia, Yukona, Magnatronia
Oh and not to mention a relatively cheap F-16 that was produced since 1973 and is gonna be tiny compared to this blimp could down it with one sustained burst of 20mm rounds from its Vulcan cannon and that's disregarding any air to air missiles it has. Further if pilots came in at it from above the blimps actual man Mable platform would be underneath and therefore your anti air defences would not be able to see the hostile until its strafed you, has it's afterburner on and is deploying countermeasures at the speed of sound.
Andromitus
Unacceptable! (:P)
Yukona
In short, steer clear of blimps. Unless you're using them to keep watch over your citizenry from above, making sure they aren't slipping up.
Jaslandia, Andromitus, Yukona
All this talk of pilots and you haven't even mentioned how this system is vulnerable to indirect fire and infantry.
Hell, MRSI tech, you could have three 150-250 milimeter shells raining on to it all at the same moment.
Of course, you could also just use Incendiary ammo with a SAW instead.
Yukona
Not to mention the threat posed by static-y sweaters.
OK i get it, airships are a bad idea.
The United Providences Of Perland, Magnatronia
Modern lasers are a bad idea
they work don't they?
haha no -_-
in an official report, the US military stated that fully integrated and general available laW Systems won't be possible until the late 2020's
So no, they don't work, there is only one [maybe 2 :P] in existence, they're classified as prototypes, they're slow, unreliable, our computer systems can't keep up with them...I could go on, but I don't wan't to over-lecture you :D
well, what if i could create a wrist mounted harpoon/grapple launcher?
Have fun with a broken wrist, dude.
Yukona
Besides, why would you?
Systems that do the same thing a whole lot safer are out there.
How?
Enough force to lift you all centered in your forearm, specifically the wrist and hand?
Put any speed behind that and it goes from "Uncomfortable strain" to "Hand dislocating wrist fracturing force"
you mean tensile strength?
No?
That's for the line, force is a change in motion.
So the force is such that you're gonna break your wrist or wind up with a dislocated hand.
when it's secured to the wrist?
Oil is only valuable to primitive nations. Higher-advanced nations such as myself see no worth in oil as we have moved onto much better forms of fuel and energy.
I believe that nations who are at least among the top 1% of scientific advancement in the world have the possibility of having extremely high-tech things such as starships, of which my nation officially possesses. It might be OP, but I think it would be wise for a highly scientifically advanced nation such as mine to have pursued developing such technologies like interstellar space travel that doesn't take weeks or years to travel between star systems, but rather minutes to hours to sometimes days.
I agree. Let's set up a committee or whatever to formally create RP rules so things don't get out of hand and people don't start crying about godmodding because I saw too much of that in my previous region and that was cancerous.
I just realized it's possible that it'll only be at minimum ten more years until we get pew pew pew weapons and I'm hyped :D
Andromitus
Pew Pew?
I repeat..tensile strength is for the line.
It must also be measured, but it has no bearing on the system wrenching your hand out of the socket beyond "Did it just snap?"
don't question it
just be excited
the future is almost here
Andromitus
Do you know what MODERN TECH means? Because it doesn't mean starships.
If you want to participate in regional RPs you use modern-day technology. Doesn't matter if you're the single greatest scientifically focused nation in the entire universe or that your lore dictates it. Your lore is subordinate to the regional lore and the region is modern tech. If you want to be scientifically advanced then by all means do so, but be sure to give your spot on the map to someone who can actually use it because I can guarantee that you'll be rejected from all future regional RPs if you attempt to break the tech barrier.
Yukona, Magnatronia
To wit, I don't *think* you have to give up the map spot if you're FT, just can't use it in RPs.
Oh sure, I'm just saying it's better off to give it up voluntarily if you're going to insist on using FT in RPs because you're not exactly going to be allowed to partake.
Well most of the pulling force will actually be exerted on the shoulder rather than the wrist or hand itself so heres an explanation on how much force it would take to cause a dislocation:
Okay, assuming initial velocity and height are zero, you have an expression where distance = one half the velocity times time squared. (it works up to something, so pay attention)
So the time to fall one meter is the square root of twice the distance divided by the velocity, or about .5 seconds.
In that time, your velocity will reach 4.4 meters per second. Neat, huh? But get this, falling 3 meters takes about .8 seconds (both are rounded up).
In that time your velocity reaches 7.7 meters per second. Using my calculators nifty difty conversions...
Is 27.6 kilometers per hour or (if I understand my calculator) 40 feet per second
Which works out to about 25 miles per hour, which would be the minimum speed necessary to cause the shoulder to dislocate.
Now, that's quite a bit better, almost had me worried there :P
Ah, Kum, by the way.
We might eventually have an RP where you could use it, but most won't allow for tech that breaches into clear FT territory, you know?
How is everyone today ?
Vista Major
Very good, considering the fact that you like to set things on a better course :)
Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica
That's a lot of math related to dislocating the shoulder, except I'd argue most of the force would actually reside in the wrist (at least for the initial tug) as the actual machine would try to slip off the forearm first and would only pull the body once it actually stopped (in this case, it would stop only once it actually hit the area directly behind the thumb) and all that force smashing a spot on your hand -and pulling outward- will be both unpleasant and likely gruesome.
Furthermore, I have to ask for the purpose of this design? Other designs are both safer and less dangerous, and the one advantage of this design, speed, is as much a detractment as it is a reasoning.
Yukona
Think of spiderman
Damn phone.
Yukona
This is why Baxten's idea for formally creating RP rules is a good idea and why I support it being a committee of those interested being the ones to create the rules. If the committee decides I may not have futuristic technologies such starships or tools used to eradicate radiation, then I'll comply. But I'd much rather futuristic technologies be allowed for the highly scientific nations because it just makes sense imo.
In past RPs I've hardly ever used my starships because my nation is fairly peaceful so therefore there hasn't really been any reason to deploy my fleet of starships before. They have been used minimally against fascist insurgents, and they have been moved into attack position over nations of which Kumania had been nearing war with, but that's all the combat they have seen. A starship was used for a science experiment to study a black hole shortly after they were developed. This science experiment was to determine the effect a black hole had on an organism, and a polar bear was launched into a nearby black hole to test this. Currently the main purpose of the Kumanian starships is for defense, but hopefully they can be used more for science and exploration in the future when tensions across the world and nearby space ease.
Using one too but I ain't having any problems
Now, I could, or I could focus on what a Soldier would reliably need and use.
Like, this is airships, but worse for the poor Fvck carrying it.
... wot m8?
?
*blink*
The main problem is simply if its fun for everyone, we decided that the default [default], tech level is modern, certain things can be accepted, but the general consensus is technology that is fully proven by science, and can be manufactured NOW, not tomorrow or in a few years or what have you.
That in mind,
I, or other nations, I suspect, would be happy to create non-default RP's that allow future tech, proven by science, probable and most likely, based of the Nationstates Scientific Advancement level. However, I suspect that the OOC of that RP must SPECIFICALLY STATE that it is not a default modern tech world.
For example, the Khutongian Civil War RP [Insert Shameless Plug] would be considered default modern tech.
How does that day work? Do you just take a balloon outside, let it go, and watch it fly into the sky? Or do they mean 'ascension' in a more abstract sense, such as the increasing sales and prevalence of balloons?
Cool name, but I can't see a lot of people celebrating it. Frankenstein-type people who like 'playing God' aren't going to put it off until one day a year, and people who don't like 'playing God' aren't even going to do it once a year. No offense to you, Peng, but sometimes I feel all these silly and obscure holidays are just failed experiments by greeting-card makers, with holidays like Valentine's Day being the successful experiments.
Off-topic, but I've always thought Zeno was an awesome name! It sounds like a name that would belong to an awesome Power Rangers villain. If it wasn't for the social stigma against weird names, I'd consider naming my potential son 'Zeno'.
Penguania And Antarctica
I think if you started an FT RP you'd be fine. But what I think they mean is, is that for the most part, most people here are MT, or slightly futuristic by say like the 2020s like my nation RPs as.
A soldier will not need this enough to standardize it, it will most likely harm the user and it would likely be less reliable than current systems.
In short, It's like using airships -like you wanted- but worse for the individual.
Yukona
That's what Im saying :p [or at least what I meant to convey]
The United Providences Of Perland
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