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Jaslandia wrote:And Mao's government was hardly democratic, so I don't think that's a good example. Maoist China was as much a 'democratic dictatorship' as North Korea is a 'Democratic People's Republic'.

Thinking more about it, I suppose a 'democratic dictatorship' in a literal sense would be a government where a single person is elected by the people or legislature to wield absolute authority. The only problems with this are:

A: Dictatorship is rule by one man, but if the people or legislature elect the dictator, then they have a part in ruling too, so it's not just rule by one man.

B: If the dictator is all-powerful with no checks on his authority, then what's to prevent him from ending elections and dissolving the legislature?

Ancient Rome had a system like this, supposedly only for emergencies, and we all know how that went.

The term that Unf used was the idea of the "People's democratic dictatorship," enshrined in the Constitution of the People's Republic which stated that the CPC and the state serve on behalf of the people and are their representatives, but may use powers against reactionary forces to preserve the dictatorship of the proletariat. The dictatorial status is supposed to be a necessary counterforce to prevent the PDD from turning into a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie or some lower form of government.

Now, obviously, the concept never worked and its more than likely that Spanelsko meant that the mainstays of the dictatorship (leadership positions) are elective in nature, but with long terms and more than likely restricted to supporters of the state, similar to the Bjork Confederacy (a nation on NS, they are somewhat democratic in that they have an elective Presidency, but the President-elect serves a life term and their heir serves for 10 years before another election. Their also misogynistic and actively practice slavery, as well as being conservative as hell)

Jaslandia, Spanelsko

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:ayy, my boy Rus

Jaslandia wrote:RF! Good to see you again!

Greetings comrades, happy to be back.

Russkov Soviet wrote:Not only did Rus Fed come back (and thus nullifying my nations lore "existence", since I only got this powerful upon Russia's collapse in 2012-2013), but I just found out that my step-mom is trying to "hook me up" with a girl from Russia... (she's pretty "good looking", but I'm sure she already has a BF). So strange...

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:Well, Rus doesn't usually RP and he doesn't have a map spot (and that's primarily due to Tse not being active, which is, I assume, possibly due to his kid coming earlier than the due date expected), plus it's probably not going change anything in the current world.

Yeah, no. I only rp as a big cute dinosaur. Who's Tse?

Russkov Soviet, Penguania And Antarctica

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:The term that Unf used was the idea of the "People's democratic dictatorship," enshrined in the Constitution of the People's Republic which stated that the CPC and the state serve on behalf of the people and are their representatives, but may use powers against reactionary forces to preserve the dictatorship of the proletariat. The dictatorial status is supposed to be a necessary counterforce to prevent the PDD from turning into a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie or some lower form of government.

Now, obviously, the concept never worked and its more than likely that Spanelsko meant that the mainstays of the dictatorship (leadership positions) are elective in nature, but with long terms and more than likely restricted to supporters of the state, similar to the Bjork Confederacy (a nation on NS, they are somewhat democratic in that they have an elective Presidency, but the President-elect serves a life term and their heir serves for 10 years before another election. Their also misogynistic and actively practice slavery, as well as being conservative as hell)

More or less, as mentioned only Class 1 (A) citizens can rule with both the Class 1 and 2 have the right to vote. (Class 1 Iberians and Russians)

Glory to the President!

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:Now, obviously, the concept never worked and its more than likely that Spanelsko meant that the mainstays of the dictatorship (leadership positions) are elective in nature, but with long terms and more than likely restricted to supporters of the state, similar to the Bjork Confederacy (a nation on NS, they are somewhat democratic in that they have an elective Presidency, but the President-elect serves a life term and their heir serves for 10 years before another election. Their also misogynistic and actively practice slavery, as well as being conservative as hell)

That sounds more like a slightly-democratic oligarchy than a dictatorship to me, but far enough.

the limit of army is still 1.5 M right? i am asking because i cant find it....

I wanted to add 300.000 new soldiers to my army (the plan i was going to finish 1 month ago)

100.000 cavalry 150.000 Radical Militias (because of Basque) and 50.000 new island russians. (with this change 1.2 M standing army of UFIR)

Spanelsko wrote:the limit of army is still 1.5 M right? i am asking because i cant find it....

I wanted to add 300.000 new soldiers to my army (the plan i was going to finish 1 month ago)

100.000 cavalry 150.000 Radical Militias (because of Basque) and 50.000 new island russians. (with this change 1.2 M standing army of UFIR)

It is.

Spanelsko

Kalaron wrote:It is.

Thank you Kal.

Kalaron wrote:It is.

Speaking of military size, what would the max size be for me?

@jaslandia

Did you include a map claim with your medieval application, I'm collating the map now and I can't seem to find it.

Penguania And Antarctica

Unfallious wrote:@jaslandia

Did you include a map claim with your medieval application, I'm collating the map now and I can't seem to find it.

I didn't include a map, no; guess I never got around to it. I'll post a map claim once you finish collating the map.

Medieval RP is open after a 6 month wait

http://thecoffincofn.boards.net/thread/57/medieval-rp-ic

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia

Jaslandia wrote:I didn't include a map, no; guess I never got around to it. I'll post a map claim once you finish collating the map.

IS DONE

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Minnesota Dakota wrote:Speaking of military size, what would the max size be for me?

Same as for everyone else.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=tserra/detail=factbook/id=876783

Check the bottom of the page for some rules.

Vista Major

The Russian Federations wrote:Greetings comrades, happy to be back.

Yeah, no. I only rp as a big cute dinosaur. Who's Tse?

Tserra

Today is the day we're studying Marx for the first time in my Politics and Philosophy class. I have a question for the people who really know communism out there, as I was researching - a point was made that in capitalism, for obvious reasons 'humans are expendable capital', in that: as soon as costs rise, they can be let go, with much question (given a perfectly capitalist society). My question is, in a not too distant future where we have robots and the like, could a communist society be more easily achieved, or - dare I say it - more appropriate as a result of technological advancements that make humans redundant as capital?

Nuremgard, The Russian Federations, Jaslandia, Axeldonia

Yukona wrote:Today is the day we're studying Marx for the first time in my Politics and Philosophy class. I have a question for the people who really know communism out there, as I was researching - a point was made that in capitalism, for obvious reasons 'humans are expendable capital', in that: as soon as costs rise, they can be let go, with much question (given a perfectly capitalist society). My question is, in a not too distant future where we have robots and the like, could a communist society be more easily achieved, or - dare I say it - more appropriate as a result of technological advancements that make humans redundant as capital?

I'M GLAD YOU ASKED

Yes, definetly. That's why the modern left advocate for things like UBI and free housing.

Yukona wrote:Today is the day we're studying Marx for the first time in my Politics and Philosophy class. I have a question for the people who really know communism out there, as I was researching - a point was made that in capitalism, for obvious reasons 'humans are expendable capital', in that: as soon as costs rise, they can be let go, with much question (given a perfectly capitalist society). My question is, in a not too distant future where we have robots and the like, could a communist society be more easily achieved, or - dare I say it - more appropriate as a result of technological advancements that make humans redundant as capital?

I'd say it probably depends on just how advanced the robots -and the future- really is, and whether we implement strict population controls or not. Our situation is frankly untenable at the current rate of growth, and while I won't say that any amount won't fix it, realistically we ourselves will have to change long before then.

Besides, frankly speaking? I don't see the replacement of certain jobs for an exceedingly long time. Plumbers, for instance.

Kalaron wrote:I'd say it probably depends on just how advanced the robots -and the future- really is, and whether we implement strict population controls or not. Our situation is frankly untenable at the current rate of growth, and while I won't say that any amount won't fix it, realistically we ourselves will have to change long before then.

Besides, frankly speaking? I don't see the replacement of certain jobs for an exceedingly long time. Plumbers, for instance.

Eh, my question is more a hypothetical one relating to theory of Marx than the actual probability of an automated future

Axeldonia

http://thecoffincofn.boards.net/thread/57/medieval-rp-ic?page=1&scrollTo=453

IT BEGINS

Vista Major

I've made Census Act edits. Slight, but if y'all want to take a look...

Go right on 'head.

Voting has begun on the Census Act.

http://thecoffincofn.boards.net/thread/55/census-act-debate-01-bill

Members are urged to keep questions/comments short as the debate period has ended.

Mercunova wrote:Voting has begun on the Census Act.

http://thecoffincofn.boards.net/thread/55/census-act-debate-01-bill

Members are urged to keep questions/comments short as the debate period has ended.

Let's see if I can actually follow parliamentary procedure this time

Mercunova

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:Tserra

Ah, ok. There's a nickname Tse in The South Pacific too.

Yukona wrote:Eh, my question is more a hypothetical one relating to theory of Marx than the actual probability of an automated future

Assuming completely optimum conditions -or rather, not thinking about the specifics- means that an awful lot is possible. The answer to the hypothetical, in my opinion, lies entirely in the details surrounding it, IMO, like I said.

Yukona wrote:Today is the day we're studying Marx for the first time in my Politics and Philosophy class. I have a question for the people who really know communism out there, as I was researching - a point was made that in capitalism, for obvious reasons 'humans are expendable capital', in that: as soon as costs rise, they can be let go, with much question (given a perfectly capitalist society). My question is, in a not too distant future where we have robots and the like, could a communist society be more easily achieved, or - dare I say it - more appropriate as a result of technological advancements that make humans redundant as capital?

Yes, there's a big sect of socialist thought today dedicated to promoting robotics and human workplace redundancy under the impression that when humans are pushed out of the workplace capitalism will attempt to adapt (through the use of a universal basic income) but will ultimately become obsolete and make some form of socialism (perhaps not specifically communism which requires the loss of the state entirely) a more preferable alternative.

The Russian Federations, Axeldonia, Yukona

http://thecoffincofn.boards.net/thread/57/medieval-rp-ic?page=1&scrollTo=458

Finally I get to use my Squibs

Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia

[spoiler=Today is January 9 and today are:]

Today is January 9 and today are:

- Balloon Ascension Day

- Hōonkō (Jōdo Shinshū Buddhism)

- Martyrs' Day (Panama)

- Martyrs' Day (Panama)

- National Apricot Day (United States)

- National Cassoulet Day (United States)

- National Law Enforcement Appreciation Day (United States)

- National Shop for Travel Day (United States)

- National Static Electricity Day (United States)

- Non-Resident Indian Day (India)

- Peace Agreement Day (South Sudan)

- Play God Day

- Poetry At Work Day

- Republic Day (Republic of Srpska)

- Word Nerd Day

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 0475 – Byzantine Emperor Zeno is forced to flee his capital at Constantinople, and his general, Basiliscus gains control of the empire.

- 0681 – Twelfth Council of Toledo: King Erwig of the Visigoths initiates a council in which he implements diverse measures against the Jews in Spain.

- 1127 – Jin–Song Wars: Invading Jurchen soldiers from the Jin dynasty besiege and sack Bianjing (Kaifeng), the capital of the Song dynasty of China, and abduct Emperor Qinzong of Song and others, ending the Northern Song dynasty.

- 1150 – Wanyan Liang and other court officials murder Emperor Xizong of Jin. Wanyan Liang succeeds him as emperor.

- 1349 – The Jewish population of Basel, believed by the residents to be the cause of the ongoing Black Death, is rounded up and incinerated.

- 1431 – Judges' investigations for the trial of Joan of Arc begin in Rouen.

- 1760 – Ahmad Shah Durrani defeats the Marathas in the Battle of Barari Ghat.

- 1788 – Connecticut becomes the fifth state to ratify the Constitution.

- 1792 – Treaty of Jassy between Russian and Ottoman Empire is signed.

- 1793 – Jean-Pierre Blanchard becomes the first person to fly in a balloon in the United States.

- 1799 – British Prime Minister William Pitt the Younger introduces an income tax of two shillings to the pound to raise funds for Great Britain's war effort in the Napoleonic Wars.

- 1806 – Admiral Horatio Lord Nelson receives a state funeral and is interred in St Paul's Cathedral.

- 1816 – Sir Humphry Davy tests his safety lamp for miners at Hebburn Colliery.

- 1822 – The Portuguese prince Pedro I of Brazil decides to stay in Brazil against the orders of the Portuguese King João VI, beginning the Brazilian independence process.

- 1839 – The French Academy of Sciences announces the Daguerreotype photography process.

- 1857 – The 7.9 Mw Fort Tejon earthquake shakes Central and Southern California with a maximum Mercalli intensity of IX (Violent).

- 1858 – Anson Jones, the last President of the Republic of Texas, commits suicide.

- 1861 – American Civil War: "Star of the West" incident occurs near Charleston, South Carolina.

- 1861 – Mississippi becomes the second state to secede from the Union before the outbreak of the American Civil War.

- 1878 – Umberto I becomes King of Italy.

- 1894 – New England Telephone and Telegraph installs the first battery-operated telephone switchboard in Lexington, Massachusetts.

- 1903 – Hallam Tennyson, 2nd Baron Tennyson, son of the poet Alfred Tennyson, becomes the second Governor-General of Australia.

- 1909 – Ernest Shackleton, leading the Nimrod Expedition to the South Pole, plants the British flag 97 nautical miles (180 km; 112 mi) from the South Pole, the farthest anyone had ever reached at that time.

- 1914 – Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity Inc., the first historically black intercollegiate Greek-letter fraternity to be officially recognized at Howard University, is founded.

- 1916 – World War I: The Battle of Gallipoli concludes with an Ottoman Empire victory when the last Allied forces are evacuated from the peninsula.

- 1917 – World War I: The Battle of Rafa is fought near the Egyptian border with Palestine.

- 1918 – Battle of Bear Valley: The last battle of the American Indian Wars.

- 1921 – Greco-Turkish War: The First Battle of İnönü, the first battle of the war, begins near Eskişehir in Anatolia.

- 1923 – Juan de la Cierva makes the first autogyro flight.

- 1923 – Lithuanian residents of the Memel Territory rebel against the League of Nations' decision to leave the area as a mandated region under French control.

- 1927 – A fire at the Laurier Palace movie theatre in Montreal, Quebec, Canada, kills 78 children.

- 1941 – World War II: First flight of the Avro Lancaster.

- 1945 – World War II: The Sixth United States Army begins the invasion of Lingayen Gulf.

- 1957 – British Prime Minister Sir Anthony Eden resigns from office following his failure to retake the Suez Canal from Egyptian sovereignty.

- 1960 – President of Egypt Gamal Abdel Nasser opens construction on the Aswan Dam by detonating ten tons of dynamite to demolish twenty tons of granite on the east bank of the Nile.

- 1964 – Martyrs' Day: Several Panamanian youths try to raise the Panamanian flag in the U.S.-controlled Panama Canal Zone, leading to fighting between U.S. military and Panamanian civilians.

- 1965 – The Mirzapur Cadet College formally opens for academic activities in East Pakistan (now Bangladesh).

- 1991 – Representatives from the United States and Iraq meet at the Geneva Peace Conference to try to find a peaceful resolution to the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait.

- 1992 – The Assembly of the Serb People in Bosnia and Herzegovina proclaims the creation of Republika Srpska, a new state within Yugoslavia.

- 1996 – First Chechen War: Chechen separatists launch a raid against the helicopter airfield and later a civilian hospital in the city of Kizlyar in the neighboring Dagestan, which turns into a massive hostage crisis involving thousands of civilians.

- 2004 – An inflatable boat carrying illegal Albanian emigrants stalls near the Karaburun Peninsula en route to Brindisi, Italy; exposure to the elements kills 28. This is the second deadliest naval tragedy in Albanian history.

- 2005 – Mahmoud Abbas wins the election to succeed Yasser Arafat as President of the Palestinian National Authority, replacing interim president Rawhi Fattouh.

- 2005 – The Sudan People's Liberation Movement and the Government of Sudan sign the Comprehensive Peace Agreement to end the Second Sudanese Civil War.

- 2007 – Apple CEO Steve Jobs introduces the original iPhone at a Macworld keynote in San Francisco.

- 2011 – Iran Air Flight 277 crashes near Orumiyeh in the northeast of the country, killing 77 people.

- 2014 – An explosion at a Mitsubishi Materials chemical plant in Yokkaichi, Japan, kills at least five people and injures 17 others.

- 2015 – The perpetrators of the Charlie Hebdo shooting in Paris two days earlier are both killed after a hostage situation; a second hostage situation, related to the Charlie Hebdo shooting, occurs at a Jewish market in Vincennes.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 0727 – Emperor Daizong of Tang

- 1870 – Joseph Strauss, American engineer, co-designed the Golden Gate Bridge

- 1879 – John B. Watson, American psychologist and academic

- 1890 – Kurt Tucholsky, German-Swedish journalist and author

- 1908 – Simone de Beauvoir, French philosopher and author

- 1913 – Richard Nixon, American commander, lawyer, and politician, 37th President of the United States

- 1922 – Ahmed Sékou Touré, Guinean politician, 1st President of Guinea

- 1929 – Heiner Müller, German poet, playwright, and director

- 1940 – Ruth Dreifuss, Swiss journalist and politician, 86th President of the Swiss Confederation

- 1941 – Joan Baez, American singer-songwriter, guitarist and activist

- 1944 – Jimmy Page, English guitarist, songwriter, and producer

- 1950 – Rio Reiser, German rock musician

- 1950 – Alec Jeffreys, English geneticist and academic

- 1955 – J.K. Simmons, American actor

- 1959 – Rigoberta Menchú, Guatemalan activist and politician, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1965 – Haddaway, Trinidadian-German singer and musician

- 1982 – Catherine Mountbatten-Windsor, Duchess of Cambridge

- 1987 – Paolo Nutini, Scottish singer-songwriter and guitarist

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Quote of the day

The person who can bring the spirit of laughter into a room is indeed blessed.

- Bennett Cerf -

Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.

Vista Major, Axeldonia, Kalaron, Minnesota Dakota, Mercunova

The Talking Point

Leader has been known to threaten dissenting citizens with a machine gun at press conferences.

I have failed as a democracy in 1 day.... well at least i can be proud of something......

I am sorry to say this but karola has died.

Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota

Jmonte wrote:I am sorry to say this but karola has died.

I'm very sorry.

Russkov Soviet, Minnesota Dakota, Jmonte, Mercunova, Spanelsko

sorry for your loss.....

may she rest in peace......

Russkov Soviet, Minnesota Dakota, Jmonte, Mercunova

Jmonte wrote:I am sorry to say this but karola has died.

My deepest condolences.

Russkov Soviet, Minnesota Dakota, Jmonte, Mercunova, Cesorion, Spanelsko

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Penguania And Antarctica wrote:My deepest condolences.

Mine too Jmonte

Russkov Soviet, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, Jmonte

Jmonte wrote:I am sorry to say this but karola has died.

My sincerest condolences.

Russkov Soviet, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, Jmonte

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Fellow Citizens

The Government of the Confederacy in its entirety, in memory of the late Fuhrmania, suspends its operations for a day. On behalf of the whole community, our deepest condolences

Thank you,

Cesorion

Chancellor

Russkov Soviet, Vista Major, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, Jmonte

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Vista Major wrote:I'm very sorry.

Spanelsko wrote:sorry for your loss.....

may she rest in peace......

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:My deepest condolences.

Minnesota Dakota wrote:I am sorry for your loss. She was a very nice woman. May she rest in peace.

Cesorion wrote:Mine too Jmonte

Thanks i should have done something sooner maybe she would still be alive if i did. Me, Kari, Jakoh, still needed her. What am i going to tell tell my children that there mom is dead. I should have done something sooner.

Russkov Soviet wrote:I'm sorry for your loss. She was a sweet, energetic woman who brought life to this region. May she rest in peace and the heavens sing her praises.

Thanks she always spoke highly of you in are talk about this game.

Post self-deleted by Russkov Soviet.

Post self-deleted by Minnesota Dakota.

Fellow Citizens

There is an ongoing conversation on the general Chanell of our discord, that basically has reached that conclusion that we got played. You are invited to have a look. I will not say a lot, other thag acknowledge my frustration.

As such

The Confederate Government continues its operation normally. Parliament is continuing its operations normally. I regret to have been a victim of attention seeking. I apologise for it.

Cesorion,

Chancellor

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Oelesa, Mercunova, Duke The Old Engine

Cesorion wrote:Fellow Citizens

There is an ongoing conversation on the general Chanell of our discord, that basically has reached that conclusion that we got played. You are invited to have a look. I will not say a lot, other thag acknowledge my frustration.

As such

The Confederate Government continues its operation normally. Parliament is continuing its operations normally. I regret to have been a victim of attention seeking. I apologise for it.

Cesorion,

Chancellor

I can confirm that Parliament has unlocked. Voting can resume as normal.

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Oelesa, Cesorion

To whom it may concern,

I will not tolerate the faking of an illness such as cancer. I knew someone with brain cancer. It is not funny or appropriate to use cancer to get attention. If the allegations are true, shame on you. I cried for longer than I should've when I heard the news. I do not appreciate you playing with my emotions. If you are lying come forward and I might be able to forgive you.

Au Revoir,

Midas

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Oelesa, Cesorion, Confederal States, Duke The Old Engine

Minnesota Dakota wrote:To whom it may concern,

I will not tolerate the faking of an illness such as cancer. I knew someone with brain cancer. It is not funny or appropriate to use cancer to get attention. If the allegations are true, shame on you. I cried for longer than I should've when I heard the news. I do not appreciate you playing with my emotions. If you are lying come forward and I might be able to forgive you.

Au Revoir,

Midas

Wait.... Are you saying that Fuhrmania's passing from Stage 4 cancer is possibly a joke? If this is indeed true, I need to know.

Axeldonia, Oelesa, Minnesota Dakota

Russkov Soviet wrote:Wait.... Are you saying that Fuhrmania's passing from Stage 4 cancer is possibly a joke? If this is indeed true, I need to know.

Ask Cesorion or Vista Major or Mercunova or Axeldonia. What I said is based off of the information I know.

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Oelesa, Cesorion

Russkov Soviet wrote:Wait.... Are you saying that Fuhrmania's passing from Stage 4 cancer is possibly a joke? If this is indeed true, I need to know.

A good portion of us on Discord started noticing things were off about her background, the length of time that bad things seemed to occur, and immediate contradictions in her story. Folks from the ESU that had been with Fuhr before mentioned similar actions done back in their region. I had also noticed some details about her children were nigh-impossible (she claimed her son had Kleinfelter's syndrome, where a child has an XXY chromosome setup, and autism, despite the child only being 4 when almost all cases of the syndrome are noted a puberty and autism being a literal needle in the haystack to inherit along with an XXY chromosome. Further consultation with several doctors confirmed that a correlation is hard to achieve). Similarly, we noted that a person with stage 4 breast cancer would literally be at death's door: simply operating an account while near-dead is pretty easy to gauge the possibility of, while her husband's account was noted to have been resurrected after months being CTE'd.

While she hasn't mentioned anything, Fuhr did pull her Discord account off of the CFN Discord, so we can't contact her there.

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Vista Major, Axeldonia, Oelesa, Minnesota Dakota, Cesorion, Duke The Old Engine

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:A good portion of us on Discord started noticing things were off about her background, the length of time that bad things seemed to occur, and immediate contradictions in her story. Folks from the ESU that had been with Fuhr before mentioned similar actions done back in their region. I had also noticed some details about her children were nigh-impossible (she claimed her son had Kleinfelter's syndrome, where a child has an XXY chromosome setup, and autism, despite the child only being 4 when almost all cases of the syndrome are noted a puberty and autism being a literal needle in the haystack to inherit along with an XXY chromosome. Further consultation with several doctors confirmed that a correlation is hard to achieve). Similarly, we noted that a person with stage 4 breast cancer would literally be at death's door: simply operating an account while near-dead is pretty easy to gauge the possibility of, while her husband's account was noted to have been resurrected after months being CTE'd.

While she hasn't mentioned anything, Fuhr did pull her Discord account off of the CFN Discord, so we can't contact her there.

I see. {Trust Level: -10} I'll think on things tonight. I won't be home for a few more hours.

Oelesa, Minnesota Dakota, Confederal States

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:While she hasn't mentioned anything, Fuhr did pull her Discord account off of the CFN Discord, so we can't contact her there.

Hold up, I gotta quit this server before I die, brb.

Axeldonia, Oelesa, Confederal States

Yukona wrote:Today is the day we're studying Marx for the first time in my Politics and Philosophy class. I have a question for the people who really know communism out there, as I was researching - a point was made that in capitalism, for obvious reasons 'humans are expendable capital', in that: as soon as costs rise, they can be let go, with much question (given a perfectly capitalist society). My question is, in a not too distant future where we have robots and the like, could a communist society be more easily achieved, or - dare I say it - more appropriate as a result of technological advancements that make humans redundant as capital?

Depending on how far along we're talking about, I think robot automation of the economy could make economics (at least in regards to employment) itself irrelevant, since robots don't need to be paid, and they don't need a lot besides basic maintenance. Though I think capitalism will still govern the few jobs that robots can't do (mainly the creative and literary arts, but also some customer service jobs).

Russkov Soviet wrote:Wait.... Are you saying that Fuhrmania's passing from Stage 4 cancer is possibly a joke? If this is indeed true, I need to know.

*sigh* Some people. And to think it isn't even the first time something like this has happened to us. Has anyone else been around enough long enough to remember the Acro/Connor situation. The short version of it is: One of our previous regions (I think it was the first CFN) had a well-respected member named Acro, and he also got cancer. His brother Connor came here to give us updates on his condition, and then reported he died. We honored Acro, and even inducted him into our regional hall of fame. Afterwards, Connor became active in the region, until some members did some digging and uncovered evidence that Acro was all an invention of Connor.

On that note, I'm glad people looked into this. It's always infuriating when people take advantage of our sympathy and kindness to get attention.

Russkov Soviet, Vista Major, Axeldonia, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia, Minnesota Dakota, Confederal States

So, I'm hearing something about a member of this region faking cancer for attention? Typical. The things people do for attention nowadays. If you ask me, they probably weren't raised right. In my young days, if children threw tantrums or acted crazy to get attention, they got a solid slap or spank from their parents! And it worked! Or, at least it looked like it worked: I only saw those people at the station when they board and got off my train, so I don't know if they were still quiet by the time they got home. And yes, some parents did cross the line into outright abusive territory, which is despicable. But my point still stands: if more of these young people had been disciplined as children, this kind of stuff wouldn't happen, mark my words!

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Oelesa, Minnesota Dakota, Confederal States

Jaslandia wrote:Depending on how far along we're talking about, I think robot automation of the economy could make economics (at least in regards to employment) itself irrelevant, since robots don't need to be paid, and they don't need a lot besides basic maintenance. Though I think capitalism will still govern the few jobs that robots can't do (mainly the creative and literary arts, but also some customer service jobs).

*sigh* Some people. And to think it isn't even the first time something like this has happened to us. Has anyone else been around enough long enough to remember the Acro/Connor situation. The short version of it is: One of our previous regions (I think it was the first CFN) had a well-respected member named Acro, and he also got cancer. His brother Connor came here to give us updates on his condition, and then reported he died. We honored Acro, and even inducted him into our regional hall of fame. Afterwards, Connor became active in the region, until some members did some digging and uncovered evidence that Acro was all an invention of Connor.

On that note, I'm glad people looked into this. It's always infuriating when people take advantage of our sympathy and kindness to get attention.

That connor thing was kinda crazy. It was the first time ive seen somsthing like that. But to see it again.. Its really sad.

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Confederal States

Duke The Old Engine wrote:So, I'm hearing something about a member of this region faking cancer for attention? Typical. The things people do for attention nowadays. If you ask me, they probably weren't raised right. In my young days, if children threw tantrums or acted crazy to get attention, they got a solid slap or spank from their parents! And it worked! Or, at least it looked like it worked: I only saw those people at the station when they board and got off my train, so I don't know if they were still quiet by the time they got home. And yes, some parents did cross the line into outright abusive territory, which is despicable. But my point still stands: if more of these young people had been disciplined as children, this kind of stuff wouldn't happen, mark my words!

Not sure I completely agree with your philosophy, but I think we can agree that it's important for parents to raise their children to be kind and truthful.

Duke The Old Engine

Duke The Old Engine wrote:So, I'm hearing something about a member of this region faking cancer for attention? Typical. The things people do for attention nowadays. If you ask me, they probably weren't raised right. In my young days, if children threw tantrums or acted crazy to get attention, they got a solid slap or spank from their parents! And it worked! Or, at least it looked like it worked: I only saw those people at the station when they board and got off my train, so I don't know if they were still quiet by the time they got home. And yes, some parents did cross the line into outright abusive territory, which is despicable. But my point still stands: if more of these young people had been disciplined as children, this kind of stuff wouldn't happen, mark my words!

Im not much of a supporter in the spanking area. Idc if parents choose that form of discipline, but i wasnt rised like that. My mom yelled, but never did the spanking. She let us know she was upset, took away things we loved, and grounded us. I straighted up real fast when the ps3 was about to go. Maybe its just me, but ive never seen the need to spank. Keep them away from things they love and enjoy, that is punishment enough in my opinion.

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Duke The Old Engine

Oelesa wrote:Im not much of a supporter in the spanking area. Idc if parents choose that form of discipline, but i wasnt rised like that. My mom yelled, but never did the spanking. She let us know she was upset, took away things we loved, and grounded us. I straighted up real fast when the ps3 was about to go. Maybe its just me, but ive never seen the need to spank. Keep them away from things they love and enjoy, that is punishment enough in my opinion.

Fair enough. Some children are better or worse than others, and if you parents raised you right without spanking, I say more power to them and more power to you! I think less violent methods (reasoning, stern talking-to, taking away something, etc.) should always be used first to discipline a child, but for some children, that won't work; for those children, spanking is the only language they'll understand.

Jaslandia, Oelesa

Send the trolling scum to Gulag! I will show them TRUE pain!

Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, Cesorion, Confederal States

Or we could not react to the attention grubber and deny them what they want. Just a thoiught ;p

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia, Minnesota Dakota, Mercunova, Cesorion, Confederal States

I come back and first thing I see is Fuhrmania at it again with her fake BS stories.

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, Cesorion

Kalaron wrote:Or we could not react to the attention grubber and deny them what they want. Just a thoiught ;p
*thought

Jaslandia, Minnesota Dakota

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=421225&p=33252498#p33252498

First news update in a while.

The Empire Of Handland wrote:I come back and first thing I see is Fuhrmania at it again with her fake BS stories.

Of all the things to fake... Stage 4 Cancer. I've had some BS here and there, but I learned quickly...

Anyway... Welcome back bud!

Jaslandia, The Empire Of Handland, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota

[spoiler=Today is January 10 and today are:]

Today is January 10 and today are:

- Fête du Vodoun (Benin)

- Houseplant Appreciation Day

- Majority Rule Day (Bahamas)

- Margaret Thatcher Day (Falkland Islands)

- National Bittersweet Chocolate Day (United States)

- National Cut Your Energy Costs Day (United States)

- National Oysters Rockefeller Day (United States)

- National Save The Eagles Day (United States)

- Peculiar People Day

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 49BC – Julius Caesar crosses the Rubicon, signalling the start of civil war.

- AD09 – The Western Han dynasty ends when Wang Mang claims that the divine Mandate of Heaven called for the end of the dynasty and the beginning of his own, the Xin dynasty.

- AD69 – Lucius Calpurnius Piso Licinianus is appointed by Galba as deputy Roman Emperor.

- 0236 – Pope Fabian succeeds Anterus to become the twentieth pope of Rome.

- 1072 – Robert Guiscard conquers Palermo.

- 1475 – Stephen III of Moldavia defeats the Ottoman Empire at the Battle of Vaslui.

- 1645 – Archbishop William Laud is beheaded at the Tower of London.

- 1776 – Thomas Paine publishes his pamphlet Common Sense.

- 1791 – The Siege of Dunlap's Station begins near Cincinnati during the Northwest Indian War.

- 1806 – Two British brigades occupy Cape Town after the Battle of Blaauwberg.

- 1812 – The first steamboat on the Ohio River or the Mississippi River arrives in New Orleans, 82 days after departing from Pittsburgh.

- 1861 – American Civil War: Florida becomes the third state to secede from the Union.

- 1863 – The Metropolitan Railway, the world's oldest underground railway, opens between Paddington and Farringdon, marking the beginning of the London Underground.

- 1870 – John D. Rockefeller incorporates Standard Oil.

- 1901 – The first great Texas oil gusher is discovered at Spindletop in Beaumont, Texas.

- 1916 – World War I: In the Erzurum Offensive, Russia defeats the Ottoman Empire.

- 1920 – The Treaty of Versailles takes effect, officially ending World War I.

- 1927 – Fritz Lang's futuristic film Metropolis is released in Germany.

- 1941 – World War II: The Greek army captures Kleisoura.

- 1946 – The first General Assembly of the United Nations opens in London. Fifty-one nations are represented.

- 1946 – The United States Army Signal Corps successfully conducts Project Diana, bouncing radio waves off the Moon and receiving the reflected signals.

- 1954 – BOAC Flight 781, a de Havilland DH.106 Comet 1, explodes and falls into the Tyrrhenian Sea killing 35 people.

- 1962 – Apollo program: NASA announces plans to build the C-5 rocket launch vehicle, which became known as the Saturn V Moon rocket, which launched every Apollo Moon mission.

- 1966 – Tashkent Declaration, a peace agreement between India and Pakistan signed that resolved the Indo-Pakistani War of 1965.

- 1972 – Sheikh Mujibur Rahman returns to the newly independent Bangladesh as president after spending over nine months in prison in Pakistan.

- 1981 – Salvadoran Civil War: The FMLN launches its first major offensive, gaining control of most of Morazán and Chalatenango departments

- 1984 – Holy See–United States relations: The United States and Holy See (Vatican City) re-establish full diplomatic relations after almost 117 years, overturning the United States Congress's 1867 ban on public funding for such a diplomatic envoy.

- 1985 – Sandinista Daniel Ortega becomes president of Nicaragua and vows to continue the transformation to socialism and alliance with the Soviet Union and Cuba; American policy continues to support the Contras in their revolt against the Nicaraguan government.

- 1990 – Time Warner is formed by the merger of Time Inc. and Warner Communications.

- 2007 – A general strike begins in Guinea in an attempt to get President Lansana Conté to resign.

- 2012 – A bombing in Khyber Agency, Pakistan, kills at least 30 people and 78 others injured.

- 2013 – More than 100 people are killed and 270 injured in several bomb blasts in Pakistan.

- 2015 – A mass poisoning at a funeral in Mozambique involving beer that was deliberately contaminated with crocodile bile leaving at least 56 dead and nearly 200 hospitalized.

- 2015 – A traffic accident between an oil tanker truck and passenger coach en route to Shikarpur from Karachi on the Pakistan National Highway Link Road near Gulshan-e-Hadeed, Karachi, killing at least 62 people.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1769 – Michel Ney, French general

- 1797 – Annette von Droste-Hülshoff, German writer and composer

- 1908 – Paul Henreid, Italian-American actor and director

- 1916 – Sune Bergström, Swedish biochemist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1936 – Robert Woodrow Wilson, American physicist and astronomer, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1939 – Scott McKenzie, American singer and songwriter

- 1945 – Rod Stewart, English singer-songwriter

- 1947 – Peer Steinbrück, German politician, former German Minister of Finance

- 1949 – George Foreman, American boxer, actor, and businessman

- 1953 – Pat Benatar, American singer-songwriter

- 1960 – Brian Cowen, Irish lawyer and politician, 12th Taoiseach of Ireland

- 1987 – César Cielo, Brazilian swimmer

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Quote of the day

Our character is what we do when we think no one is looking.

- H. Jackson Brown, Jr. -

Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Axeldonia, Oelesa, Kalaron, Lex Caledonia, Minnesota Dakota, Mercunova

[spoiler=Today is January 11 and today are:]

Today is January 11 and today are:

- Children's Day (Tunisia)

- Eugenio María de Hostos Day (Puerto Rico)

- Independence Resistance Day (Morocco)

- Kagami biraki (Japan)

- Kosrae Constitution Day (Micronesia)

- Learn Your Name in Morse Code Day

- National Arkansas Day (United States)

- National Human Trafficking Awareness Day (United States)

- National Milk Day (United States)

- National Step in the Puddle and Splash Your Friends Day (United States)

- Republic Day (Albania)

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 0532 – Nika riots in Constantinople: A quarrel between supporters of different chariot teams—the Blues and the Greens—in the Hippodrome escalates into violence.

- 0630 – Conquest of Mecca: The prophet Muhammad and his followers conquer the city, Quraysh surrender.[1]

- 0947 – Emperor Tai Zong of the Khitan-led Liao Dynasty invades the Later Jin, resulting in the destruction of the Later Jin.

- 1055 – Theodora is crowned empress of the Byzantine Empire.

- 1158 – Vladislaus II, Duke of Bohemia becomes king of Bohemia.

- 1569 – First recorded lottery in England.

- 1571 – Austrian nobility is granted freedom of religion.

- 1693 – A powerful earthquake destroys parts of Sicily and Malta.

- 1759 – In Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, the first American life insurance company is incorporated.

- 1779 – Ching-Thang Khomba is crowned King of Manipur.

- 1787 – William Herschel discovers Titania and Oberon, two moons of Uranus.

- 1805 – The Michigan Territory is created.

- 1861 – Alabama secedes from the United States.

- 1863 – American Civil War: Battle of Arkansas Post: General John McClernand and Admiral David Dixon Porter capture the Arkansas River for the Union.

- 1863 – American Civil War: CSS Alabama encounters and sinks the USS Hatteras off Galveston Lighthouse in Texas.

- 1879 – The Anglo-Zulu War begins.

- 1908 – Grand Canyon National Monument is created.

- 1912 – Immigrant textile workers in Lawrence, Massachusetts, go on strike when wages are reduced in response to a mandated shortening of the work week.

- 1917 – The Kingsland munitions factory explosion occurs as a result of sabotage.

- 1922 – First use of insulin to treat diabetes in a human patient.

- 1923 – Occupation of the Ruhr: Troops from France and Belgium occupy the Ruhr area to force Germany to make its World War I reparation payments.

- 1927 – Louis B. Mayer, head of film studio Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (MGM), announces the creation of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, at a banquet in Los Angeles, California.

- 1935 – Amelia Earhart becomes the first person to fly solo from Hawaii to California.

- 1942 – World War II: The Japanese capture Kuala Lumpur.

- 1942 – World War II: The Japanese attack Tarakan in Borneo, Netherlands Indies (Battle of Tarakan)

- 1943 – The Republic of China agrees to the Sino-British New Equal Treaty and the Sino-American New Equal Treaty.

- 1943 – Italian-American anarchist Carlo Tresca is assassinated in New York City.

- 1946 – Enver Hoxha, Secretary General of the Communist Party of Albania, declares the People's Republic of Albania with himself as head of state.

- 1949 – The first "networked" television broadcasts took place as KDKA-TV in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania goes on the air connecting the east coast and mid-west programming.

- 1957 – The African Convention is founded in Dakar, Senegal.

- 1961 – Throgs Neck Bridge over the East River, linking New York City's boroughs of The Bronx and Queens, opens to road traffic.

- 1962 – Cold War: While tied to its pier in Polyarny, the Soviet submarine B-37 is destroyed when fire breaks out in its torpedo compartment.

- 1962 – An avalanche on Huascarán in Peru causes around 4,000 deaths.

- 1964 – Surgeon General of the United States Dr. Luther Terry, M.D., publishes the landmark report Smoking and Health: Report of the Advisory Committee to the Surgeon General of the United States saying that smoking may be hazardous to health, sparking national and worldwide anti-smoking efforts.

- 1972 – East Pakistan renames itself Bangladesh.

- 1973 – Major League Baseball owners vote in approval of the American League adopting the designated hitter position.

- 1986 – The Gateway Bridge, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia is officially opened.

- 1994 – The Irish Government announces the end of a 15-year broadcasting ban on the IRA and its political arm Sinn Féin.

- 1996 – Space Shuttle program: STS-72 launches from the Kennedy Space Center marking the start of the 74th Space Shuttle mission and the 10th flight of Endeavour.

- 1998 – Over 100 people are killed in the Sidi-Hamed massacre in Algeria.

- 2003 – Illinois Governor George Ryan commutes the death sentences of 167 prisoners on Illinois's death row based on the Jon Burge scandal.

- 2013 – One French soldier and 17 militants are killed in a failed attempt to free a French hostage in Bulo Marer, Somalia.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 0347 – Theodosius I, Roman emperor

- 1638 – Nicolas Steno, Danish bishop and anatomist

- 1755 – Alexander Hamilton, Nevisian-American general, economist and politician, 1st United States Secretary of the Treasury

- 1815 – John A. Macdonald, Canadian lawyer and politician, 1st Prime Minister of Canada

- 1885 – Alice Paul, American activist

- 1895 – Laurens Hammond, American engineer and businessman, founded the Hammond Clock Company

- 1906 – Albert Hofmann, Swiss chemist and academic, discoverer of LSD

- 1923 – Ernst Nolte, German historian and philosopher

- 1930 – Rod Taylor, Australian-American actor and screenwriter

- 1934 – Jean Chrétien, Canadian lawyer and politician, 20th Prime Minister of Canada

- 1954 – Kailash Satyarthi, Indian engineer, academic, and activist, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1971 – Mary J. Blige, American singer-songwriter, producer, and actress

- 1972 – Amanda Peet, American actress and playwright

- 1973 – Rahul Dravid, Indian cricketer and captain

- 1974 – Jens Nowotny, German footballer

- 1977 – Anni Friesinger-Postma, German speed skater

- 1984 – Mark Forster, Polish-German singer and songwriter

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Quote of the day

Asking a working writer what he thinks about critics is like asking a lamppost how it feels about dogs.

- Christopher Hampton -

Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Axeldonia, Kalaron, Minnesota Dakota, Mercunova

This region has become so quiet.

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:

- 1755 – Alexander Hamilton, Nevisian-American general, economist and politician, 1st United States Secretary of the Treasury

https://youtu.be/7JKbUWSO2Nw?t=3s

Minnesota Dakota wrote:This region has become so quiet.

For about a day, yes. A bit more inactive than usual, but it's not too terrible.

Penguania And Antarctica

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=axeldonia/detail=factbook/id=867432

oh look

more ghey stuff

what a surprise

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia, Minnesota Dakota

Minnesota Dakota wrote:This region has become so quiet.

I like your flag and pre-title.

Penguania And Antarctica

Minnesota Dakota wrote:This region has become so quiet.

110% serious here, a combination of school, the Undertale Musical, and design work has sapped my attention tbh. As we speak tho, I am writing up a new post.

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Vista Major, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota

Minnesota Dakota wrote:This region has become so quiet.

Haven't been the same after "Cancergate". That and I've been busy.

Minnesota Dakota

Nuremgard wrote:I like your flag and pre-title.

Thank you! I am changing it depending on who takes power in my nation.

Penguania And Antarctica

Minnesota Dakota wrote:Thank you! I am changing it depending on who takes power in my nation.

Who is in power now?

Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:Who is in power now?

A Democrat, Bail Organa.

Penguania And Antarctica

Minnesota Dakota wrote:A Democrat, Bail Organa.

Oh, okay. Do you have overseas dominions?

Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:Oh, okay. Do you have overseas dominions?

No. If you are asking about Imperial, it is because of the Empress.

Penguania And Antarctica

Minnesota Dakota wrote:No. If you are asking about Imperial, it is because of the Empress.

Ah okay, so you're not an empire then.

Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:Ah okay, so you're not an empire then.

Here is how I think about it. There are Soviet-esque Republics, each republic is a Socialist Imperial Republic (SIR). I personally call the nation as a whole "The Empire" when I am thinking from the Empress' perspective. When I am thinking from the Konsul's perspective it is one of for different titles; Socialist Imperial Republic(s), Democratic Imperial Republic(s), (Neutral) United Republics, (Fascist) Imperial Republic. If I had my way with Tserra I would have overseas territories. On a previous map I did own Chile at one point.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Vista Major

Minnesota Dakota wrote:Here is how I think about it. There are Soviet-esque Republics, each republic is a Socialist Imperial Republic (SIR). I personally call the nation as a whole "The Empire" when I am thinking from the Empress' perspective. When I am thinking from the Konsul's perspective it is one of for different titles; Socialist Imperial Republic(s), Democratic Imperial Republic(s), (Neutral) United Republics, (Fascist) Imperial Republic. If I had my way with Tserra I would have overseas territories. On a previous map I did own Chile at one point.

Sounds complex lol

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota

Nuremgard wrote:Sounds complex lol

It is. I like it though.

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica

Minnesota Dakota wrote:It is. I like it though.

I've brought back an old nation of mine. It will be liberal, matriarchal and ruled by an absolutist queen who is worshipped as a living goddess.

Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, Confederal States

Nuremgard wrote:I've brought back an old nation of mine. It will be liberal, matriarchal and ruled by an absolutist queen who is worshipped as a living goddess.

That was this nation at the very beginning. lol

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica

I just watched a clip of that show Outlander and it bugged me. The main Scottish character says to Bonnie Prince Charlie, "the British have never been a friend to the Scots."

No wonder people think British means English. What he should have said was "the English have never been a friend to the Scots." But the screenwriters seem to think British and English are interchangeable, thus making Scots separate from the British.

Now you all know me. I don't like being called British nor do I identify as it but Scots are legally and geographically British. Hell, after the Union of the Crowns (in Scotland at least) the monarch was referred to as the King of Great Britain. How screenwriters can make such a stupid mistake is beyond me.

Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, Yukona

Minnesota Dakota wrote:That was this nation at the very beginning. lol

And you have evolved? :P

Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota

Nuremgard wrote:Hell, after the Union of the Crowns (in Scotland at least) the monarch was referred to as the King of Great Britain. How screenwriters can make such a stupid mistake is beyond me.

That was because James had a hard-on for the concept of a full British Union. He mandated his title be like that, although it was an unpopular move on both sides of the England-Scotland border and James abandoned any further attempts to bring about his union post-1610 when the English parliament buried his bill on the matter.

Not to dispute how wrong the screenwriters are there, the last bit of what you wrote just implies that the unification of the English and Scottish crowns was the same as the unification of the two states when they were functionally separate, even going to war with each other, for another hundred years.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, Yukona

Unfallious wrote:That was because James had a hard-on for the concept of a full British Union. He mandated his title be like that, although it was an unpopular move on both sides of the England-Scotland border and James abandoned any further attempts to bring about his union post-1610 when the English parliament buried his bill on the matter.

Not to dispute how wrong the screenwriters are there, the last bit of what you wrote just implies that the unification of the English and Scottish crowns was the same as the unification of the two states when they were functionally separate, even going to war with each other, for another hundred years.

Yeah I know they were fully independent kingdoms until 1707. It just annoyed me that the screenwriters were conflating British with English.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota

Nuremgard wrote:And you have evolved? :P

Yes. I desired more democracy.

Nuremgard wrote:I just watched a clip of that show Outlander and it bugged me. The main Scottish character says to Bonnie Prince Charlie, "the British have never been a friend to the Scots."

No wonder people think British means English. What he should have said was "the English have never been a friend to the Scots." But the screenwriters seem to think British and English are interchangeable, thus making Scots separate from the British.

Now you all know me. I don't like being called British nor do I identify as it but Scots are legally and geographically British. Hell, after the Union of the Crowns (in Scotland at least) the monarch was referred to as the King of Great Britain. How screenwriters can make such a stupid mistake is beyond me.

The screenwriters should watch this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Minnesota Dakota wrote:Yes. I desired more democracy.The screenwriters should watch this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10

Queen: Ugh, democracy. How populist.

Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:Queen: Ugh, democracy. How populist.

Another way to look at my country is that it is like the United Kingdom. In this case the Empress = Queen Elizabeth II, the SIR's = the Kingdoms and the Konsul = the Prime Minister.

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica

Minnesota Dakota wrote:Another way to look at my country is that it is like the United Kingdom. In this case the Empress = Queen Elizabeth II, the SIR's = the Kingdoms and the Konsul = the Prime Minister.

In my nation the Dawn Isles, there is the Queen who is revered as a living goddess. Below her are the nobility, the most notable of which are the chiefs of the various tribes of the nation. I was thinking that the monarchy is elective. The tribal leaders all come together to select one of their own to rule.

Minnesota Dakota

Minnesota Dakota wrote:Here is how I think about it. There are Soviet-esque Republics, each republic is a Socialist Imperial Republic (SIR). I personally call the nation as a whole "The Empire" when I am thinking from the Empress' perspective. When I am thinking from the Konsul's perspective it is one of for different titles; Socialist Imperial Republic(s), Democratic Imperial Republic(s), (Neutral) United Republics, (Fascist) Imperial Republic. If I had my way with Tserra I would have overseas territories. On a previous map I did own Chile at one point.

Vista Major has a somewhat similar model. We're the Grand Republic, made up of several state Republics. But each Republic adopts a standard title.

Would you like to own some overseas territories together, fren?

Nuremgard, Minnesota Dakota

Nuremgard wrote:In my nation the Dawn Isles, there is the Queen who is revered as a living goddess. Below her are the nobility, the most notable of which are the chiefs of the various tribes of the nation. I was thinking that the monarchy is elective. The tribal leaders all come together to select one of their own to rule.

That nation is like the Catholic Church. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF8I_r9XT7A

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Vista Major wrote:Vista Major has a somewhat similar model. We're the Grand Republic, made up of several state Republics. But each Republic adopts a standard title.

Would you like to own some overseas territories together, fren?

Sure. What territories? If I ask Tse for anything they will say no.

Minnesota Dakota wrote:That nation is like the Catholic Church. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF8I_r9XT7A

True. The Queen is like the monarch, pope and god all rolled into one. I need a snazzy name for the prime minister though. Lady of the Sword will be the head of the army, Lady of the Sea/Ships will be head of the navy, Lady of the Air will be head of the air force etc.

Minnesota Dakota

Nuremgard wrote:True. The Queen is like the monarch, pope and god all rolled into one. I need a snazzy name for the prime minister though. Lady of the Sword will be the head of the army, Lady of the Sea/Ships will be head of the navy, Lady of the Air will be head of the air force etc.

The Goddess' Hand? I don't know if I can help.

Nuremgard

Minnesota Dakota wrote:The Goddess' Hand? I don't know if I can help.

Good suggestion. The Grand Lady?

Minnesota Dakota

Nuremgard wrote:Good suggestion. The Grand Lady?

I like that.

Nuremgard

Minnesota Dakota wrote:I like that.

Thanks. I also need a cool national animal. I want something mythical or mystical. It's currently the dragon but I was thinking they might have a sea-based national animal since their country is made of up of islands.

Minnesota Dakota

Nuremgard wrote:Thanks. I also need a cool national animal. I want something mythical or mystical. It's currently the dragon but I was thinking they might have a sea-based national animal since their country is made of up of islands.

The Unicorn of the Sea. (Totally not the narwhal.)

Nuremgard

Minnesota Dakota wrote:The Unicorn of the Sea. (Totally not the narwhal.)

Oh, I know! I am stuck between the kelpie and hippocamp. The kelpie would be cool since it can go on land and in sea, and is a Scottish monster. Scotland is close to Scandinavia (the country has a culture of warrior women like the Valkyries.) But the hippocamp could also work because there is also Greek elements (warrior women like the Amazons, the capital will be called Mount Amazon.) And the idea of the women riding the hippocampi into battle is cool.

Choices, choices.

Nuremgard wrote:Oh, I know! I am stuck between the kelpie and hippocamp. The kelpie would be cool since it can go on land and in sea, and is a Scottish monster. Scotland is close to Scandinavia (the country has a culture of warrior women like the Valkyries.) But the hippocamp could also work because there is also Greek elements (warrior women like the Amazons, the capital will be called Mount Amazon.) And the idea of the women riding the hippocampi into battle is cool.

Choices, choices.

What about mixing the two. A woman that shapeshifts into a hippocamp.

Nuremgard

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