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Region: The Confederacy of Free Nations
Please vote.
https://strawpoll.com/54x5r7fe
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Yours is 4.2% Mine is 90%. Every time I decrease taxes my poor's income falls. I want my tax rate to be as low as yours so I can keep up my government spending and keep increasing the poor's income.
Pretty soon my gov will be taking 100% of my people's income.
Oh, you mean Yukona. Yeah, I managed to keep it very low from my old libertarian days (which I still am) and my economy kinda wavered around good for a little while, then the tourism and science started picking up and made sure to keep it below 25% optimistically and below 15% realistically. That way, I ensured my government was never taking more than a quarter of its people's income, it also meant that the government and the people didn't rely on one another too much to the point where huge drops in consumer confidence and wages could have drastic effects on the economy - so as my country grew and so did the money it was generating, I was then able to implement environment, transport and healthcare schemes that still kept the government in the green.
Jaslandia
I kept implementing free services so my taxes just kept going up and up. Plus, I saw how rich it was making my poor citizens so I didn't want to stop. I hate how high my taxes are now.
Yukona
I will make an FB about my ideas in the future. We could discuss it..
:D
It's all about reminding yourself, to me...well...that and the fact that I can curse with all the colours of the rainbow thereafter.
You gotta remember that
1) This ChuckleFvck isn't worth expressing true energy
2) He'll spew crap, so just say what you gotta and GTFO
3) Stupidity is like radioactivity, it's got a half-life you can hopefully out-endure, so don't expose yourself to it ;p
4) Remember, some people are just ignorant about the subject matter and have a faith they gotta defend. Forgive 'em it.
Nuremgard
Sure. Here or telegrams is fine. I'd suggest the latter since debates clog up the RMB.
And then you have people like Yukono who are infuriatingly reasonable and calm when they debate. Wish that was me. Think I need some of the ganja you smoke, Yukona
Jaslandia
Ain't it a good thing to have it so that everybody has all their needs fulfilled and then some, but at the cost of avoiding the corruption that comes with money?
Nuremgard
Very well..
Oh, and for what you said earlier, I believe in low taxes and flat taxes..
Yeah, you see I went privatise everything first - which I would imagine you'd balk at right away :^)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqTnuNsruCA
Nuremgard
My country is one of the least corrupt. I'm very proud of it.
I believe in low or no taxes for the poor but a progressive tax system. The more you earn, the more you pay. And I also believe in taxing wealth like massive inheritances, land tax, corporation tax etc.
I feel like you should look into the Laffer Curve and marginal propensity to pay tax.
Sometimes you need to rip off the plaster in order for the wound to get better. My economy was always a mix of private and state owned companies.
And which one am I?
https://youtu.be/dGnFcmHH7t4
Check out. It sums me up
I am sure I read somewhere that the Laffer Curve is bollocks. If high taxes drove away the rich and business, the Scandi countries would be skint.
Current tax rates are fine. It's not even a case of increasing taxes on the rich, it's collecting what is owed right now.
I don't like the idea of a flat tax. The idea of a cleaner and a CEO paying the same rate of tax is anathema to me.
It's a theory, but it certainly is relevant in some cases - look at the Gaelic Tiger in Ireland.
If the cleaner earns less than 50,000, they pay no tax....
And the thing is that the state provides the same for both. So they pay the same
5) Love thy perfect boyfriend :D
Speaking of Ireland, their government is in the bizarre position of defending Amazon and Starbucks evasion of tax because the EU is demanding they pay up. A government that doesn't want money? Never heard of such a thing.
As a leftist, I simply believe that the more you earn, the more you should contribute.
Exactly. Because the reason they had an economic boom when everyone else failed is that they slashed corporate tax rates and became basically a colder Bahamas. By that, I mean, is why they won't try and claim that tax and why they let Google and Facebook have their European headquarters in their country - they speak English, are near France and the UK and more importantly they have a low rate for expenses. That way, they get to cream off what little percentage they do claim (which is still a huge amount of money in real terms). If they raised the tax rate, they wouldn't gain more money, corporations would leave.
Cesorion
Sounds kinda like my philosophy....
They also had low wages but when wages began to increase, Ireland became less competitive and thus less attractive to foreign investment.
Basically, if a country wants a lot of foreign investment and companies to come and provide jobs, it needs to prostitute itself on the cheap and skimp over on things like workers' wages, rights etc.
That is a harsh trade off.
Yukona
Wasn't he the one that indicated yesterday that he was thinking of leaving for a bit, anyways? I don't think you ran him out, either.
Jaslandia, Kalaron, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona
That's the one.
I just read this and found it really interesting. It seems I always fundamentally misunderstood the Nordic model.
https://taxfoundation.org/how-scandinavian-countries-pay-their-government-spending/
The income and payroll taxes in these nations are high but flat. Their corporate taxes are relatively low (with the exception of Norway due to its oil) and they have high VAT rates.
The excellent public services obviously require a lot of tax to pay for them. I did not know their corporate taxes were as competitive as they are though. The high income tax (across the board for everyone) and high VAT does put me off slightly. But I suppose they are necessary to pay for the public spending.
It made me think. Since Norway has a high corporate tax due to the oil, I wonder if an independent Scotland could also have a high corporate tax with a state-owned oil company like Norway.
Yukona
#CornishIndependence
#MebyonKernow
#BretonIndependence
#UnvaniezhDemokratelBreizh
hey :)
Jaslandia, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Tserra, Yukona, Percyton
Well oh Hey Derr my friend! How are you?
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona
Guys, is this that issue that destroys your economy? Help! Which do I choose?
[spoiler]Over the years, the governments tax code has become a headache-inducing tangle. Recently a prominent tax official was crushed to death under the weight of a complete copy of the tax code falling on his head. With taxes more complex than ever, an unlikely alliance of taxpayers, businesses, and government officials are demanding something be done to fix the situation.
The Debate
Weve got to put a stop to this before more lives are lost, like mine! says Björk Urquhart, the new head of the Norsk Revenue Agency, indicating the search and rescue crew armed with paper shredders. We need to abandon the current tax code and start anew. Its drastic, I know, and will mean chaos in the bureaucracy, while spending may briefly need to be curtailed as revenues dip, but theres no other way to fix this shambles!
Accept
Its true that something has got to be done about the tax code, but it doesnt need to be anything so drastic, proclaims Gary Claus, spokesperson of the Alliance of Norsk Businesses and Industry. The real problem lies with the tangled mess that is the corporate tax regime. Allow us to write a competitive tax system for Norsk industry, and youll stem the job losses from businesses flocking offshore to escape this bureaucratic nightmare.
Accept
If anything is bloated about the taxes, its that corporate welfare! rages Lucy Jordan, a concerned and rather irate citizen. If you ask me, the government needs to eliminate all those generous tax breaks for businesses! Then we can cut some of those ridiculous taxes that hit the average guy, for once benefiting the people, not industry bigwigs!
Accept
Our tax code is complicated? queries your personal tax accountant Tabitha Reagan, popping in from her office just next door. If youre struggling to fill in your FX505s, and cant tell your NOQ112b from your NOQ112c, then thats what were here for! In fact, if your government could just give a generous tax break to those of my profession - and made that cumulative with our unremitted personal G6 allowance, of course - then wed be able to offer our services to even more people!
Accept
Er, hi there, sir, pipes up Alexander Wynne, clad in a high-vis jacket and clutching a clipboard. None of these fine people have got to the root of your problem. If civil servants were just to wear hard hats while working, then falling paperwork wouldnt be an issue. And perhaps a course on manual handling wouldnt go amiss too?
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As with many things in life, if you ignore it - it never happened
United Continental States
But I am so tempted to abolish the tax code. Does it destroy your industries, employment, government spending? Etc.
I go shopping for one afternoon and 127 RMBs are posted here. This region is alive! Love it
Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton, Cesorion, United Continental States
http://www.adweek.com/wp-content/uploads/files/blogs/just-do-it-hed-2013.jpg
The newsfeed has 589+ views!! It's alive!!!!
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton, Moldegaard
https://nsindex.net/wiki/Issues
We are blessed to have a site dedicated to making sure we do not accidentally f**k up our nations by choosing the wrong solution to issues. Go here my friend if you are willing and don't let your nation become a dump! <3
Jaslandia, Percyton
I want to select the choice which gives tax breaks to corporations but doesn't abolish the tax code. I don't know!
Jaslandia
I dismissed the issue. I was too scared to pick a choice lol
The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Lex Caledonia, Yukona, Cesorion, Moldegaard
But don't trust is completely. The stated outcomes are sometimes nation-specific. Even though it says a certain option will increase, say, civil rights, if your civil rights are already very high sometimes the option will even lower your civil rights.
But most often, it'll just not effect those stats. It's mostly reliable, but I've been surprised a handful of times when I get the stats feedback from an option I chose because of what nsindex told me the outcomes would be.
Nuremgard, The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Yukona, Percyton
I might try out different outcomes in my puppet nations.
Jaslandia, Percyton
Missed you!
Jaslandia, Andromitus, Yukona, Percyton
Hello Vid! It's been a while. How are you?
Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton
I'm only against supporting ideologies that aren't socially leftist, even if they're economically leftist. As for corporations, f*** em.
Ive been good!
I spent two weeks in Canada.
Three weeks in Europe (hungary included ;)
now i think ive done enough for my creative writing do last a long time :)
How are you all?!
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton
Glad to hear you had a good time, I've written a few more vehicles into being and I plan to do some more. I'm finishing up a stealth helicopter and will begin making a UCAV and a Hyper-Sonic ICBM.
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
Vid! Welcome back! Great to see you again!
*whistles* Peep peep!
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
I've been pretty good; Spent three weeks studying abroad in Bonaire (Diving and Marine Ecology) and thereafter specified my Ideology, Economic system, form of government, etc. etc. Although I must say that things have been fairly quiet in Europe ever since the Hungarian government collapsed ;)
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Tserra, Percyton
Proportional Representation within the DPLRK is hereby eradicated and abolished:
https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=421225&p=32383208#p32383208
Im always envious! Thats something Im awful at and youre by far the best ive seen in all my experience on ns. thats awesome!
Its the best to see you! We have to do the RP we planned soon!
well.. if ya need someone to wake it up... :) :) :)
Jaslandia, Andromitus, Kalaron, Penguania And Antarctica, Tserra, Percyton
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Thank you for the kind words, I try :P
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton
I regulate and tax drugs, as well as provide information on what they could do to your body if you take them, and drug uses drops by 41%. And I also got a nice boost of funding to my public services. :P
Want to say sorry again. i'm still here! But this Month has been crazy. I'll try to get around to things when I can actually set down and do stuff, rather than check in. STICK WITH ME, i'm trying to juggle a lot right now.
Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton
Nothing makes something uncool faster then Nanny telling us it's cool to do it.
Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, United Continental States
Nuremgard has a liberal nature. If people want to take drugs, that's up to them. But it gets taxed and regulated the same as alcohol.
Hon hon hon hon hon
The Vidnoye, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton, United Continental States
I remember that! We should definitely try to set that up!
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
✊️💦
Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, Percyton, United Continental States
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/313398512492609548/349755243262771240/Untitled.jpg
Kal has made polan bail for Andu.
Jaslandia, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton
Gross. Tax is rape!
Here, the only way to get drugs is through government owned storefronts. No private company and no personal sellers allowed.
Which means zero taxes (I mean, we're already making a profit by selling it in the first place instead of dispensing it or allowing private companies to exist, sooooo) and more of that sweet juicy government revenue.
Nuremgard
Not sure what a BNSF Railway diesel numbered 8947 has to do with Andy and/or Kal. Still, at least he looks like a Really Useful Engine, even if he is a diesel --
Paxton: Hey!
Percy: And an American one at that.
Hank: Hey!
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
I can understand the diesel comment, but what do you have against Americans? Probably about half the audience of your TV show is American!
Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton
I have nothing against Americans per se, and Percyton has quite a few American engines (like Hank and Porter) who are Really Useful. However, not only are us Brits practically born with a skepticism of Americans, but a lot of the engines on Sodor complain that the TV show has become too 'Americanized'.
Gordon: Too right! For an example, look no further than that godawful Thomas and the Magic Railroad movie. Besides the fact that the plot was weird and confusing, the movie took screen time away from us engines to give it to the people from the American show Shining Time Station (which was the vehicle used to present our TV show to American audiences in the 80s and 90s). They also gave the American narrator Alec Baldwin a starring role, while completely cutting his British counterpart Michael Angelis (who was originally cast to voice James and Percy in the movie). It's even in the title, for Awdry's sake: They used the American term 'railroad' instead of the British term 'railway'!
Percy: Personally, I kinda liked Magic Railroad. Yes, I wish we had more of a role in it, but I find its weirdness to be kinda fun and charming. Besides, I never really liked Angelis' voice for me: I think he made me sound too shouty.
Gordon: Fair point, but it's the principle of the thing! You can't leave out the narrator of the original version of Thomas! It's a slap in the face to the show's British origins!
Henry: Don't get your undercarriage in a twist, Gordon. The show's gone global, and it's been global ever since it first aired in the U.S. in '89. If it weren't for expansion to America, we wouldn't have expanded to the rest of the world, and we wouldn't be raking it the kind of royalty and licensing money that pays for your gold figurine of yourself!
Gordon: Well excuse me for wanting to commemorate my unique A0 design and construction!
Henry: You can bask in your A0 pride as much as you want, just remember who pays for that basking!
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
http://iiwiki.com/wiki/KAH-223
Oh thank god the helicopter is done-ish.
Jaslandia, Andromitus, Yukona, United Continental States
Much of our revenue from drugs goes to healthcare.
Healthcare and Rehab centers my friend :D
Nuremgard, Jaslandia
very noice
Andromitus
[B]A small update from the Internal Affairs Ministry regarding citizenship and population[/B]
In terms of population, the Confederacy has been in decline for sometime. I will attach a graph from NSHistory, a third party website that monitors NS activity for nations and regions. With a peak of 170 nations back in March early this year, we have decreased in population to today of 118. The current administration beginning with a regional population of around 132 at the time of the beginning days.
Referenced Graph: http://nsdossier.texasregion.net//history.aspx?region=The+Confederacy+of+Free+Nations&type=Exact&group=region&start=&end=
In terms of citizenship, the recent citizenship roster update has seen our citizenship decrease by 6 members, primarily to CTEing, while a small number are nations that no longer reside in the Confederacy. As well, two nations have their citizenship suspended, bringing the number of active citizens down to 52, and even smaller for those who no longer reside within the region.
Anyone who wishes to see the citizenship roster may do so here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=841414
I will be working with the rest of the government to rectify this population crisis, as well will ask the Chancellor to issue a state of emergency in regards to population decline to hasten our recruitment efforts.
Thank you,
[nation=short]Sulania[/nation], Minister of Internal Affairs
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Andromitus, Cesorion
While I know that all of ^^^^ that is really dire and a bad situation overall, I'm finding it hard to be afraid because I'm too excited over that awesome factbook URL
Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Cesorion, United Continental States
That isn't a population crisis, it's a recruitment crisis. All regions have a turnover, and in order to survive they need to have enough nations coming in to replace those of us who CTE. Obviously that's not happening and I'd like to petition the government to reveal what exactly they're doing to aid in our recruitment.
Jaslandia, Talkative Friedensriech, Yukona, Cesorion, United Continental States, South Hyder
I like the new factbook link feature thingy :)
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Cesorion, United Continental States
You might want to take another gander at the roster because Fantrum left the region a while ago and is still on it as a citizen.
Yukona
As it stands, I have not removed citizenship of nations who have left the region. There are a number of nations on the roster who still have citizenship, but no longer reside. I have done this so that they can come back at their leisure, and, as in real life, citizenship is not typically revoked due to a lack of residence.
That is why I specified here "and even smaller for those who no longer reside within the region" as if you adjust for non-residential citizens, the citizenship population that actively participates is lower than 54.
Jaslandia, Cesorion
[spoiler=Today is August 23 and today are:]
Today is August 23 and today are:
- Battle of Kursk Day (Russia)
- Day of the National Flag (Ukraine)
- European Day of Remembrance for Victims of Stalinism and Nazism or Black Ribbon Day (European Union)
- General Election Day (Angola)
- International Day for the Remembrance of the Slave Trade and its Abolition
- Liberation from Fascist Occupation Day (Romania)
- National Day for Physicians (Iran)
- National Ride The Wind Day (United States)
- National Sponge Cake Day (United States)
- Umhlanga Day (Swaziland)
- Valentino Day
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[spoiler=This day in history:]
This day in history:
- 30 BC After the successful invasion of Egypt, Octavian executes Marcus Antonius Antyllus, eldest son of Mark Antony, and Caesarion, the last king of the Ptolemaic dynasty of Egypt and only child of Julius Caesar and Cleopatra.
- 20 BC Ludi Volcanalici are held within the temple precinct of Vulcan, and used by Augustus to mark the treaty with Parthia and the return of the legionary standards that had been lost at the Battle of Carrhae in 53 BC.
- AD 79 Mount Vesuvius begins stirring, on the feast day of Vulcan, the Roman god of fire.
- 406 Gothic king Radagaisus is executed after he is defeated by Roman general Stilicho and 12,000 "barbarians" are incorporated into the Roman army or sold as slaves.
- 476 Odoacer, chieftain of the Germanic tribes (Herulic - Scirian foederati), is proclaimed rex Italiae ("King of Italy") by his troops.
- 634 Abu Bakr dies at Medina and is succeeded by Umar I who becomes the second caliph of the Rashidun Caliphate.
- 1244 Siege of Jerusalem: The city's citadel, the Tower of David, surrenders to Khwarezmian Empire.
- 1268 Battle of Tagliacozzo: The army of Charles of Anjou defeats the Ghibellines supporters of Conradin of Hohenstaufen marking the fall of the Hohenstaufen family from the Imperial and Sicilian thrones, and leading to the new chapter of Angevin domination in Southern Italy.
- 1305 Sir William Wallace is executed for high treason at Smithfield, London.
- 1328 Battle of Cassel: French troops stop an uprising of Flemish farmers.
- 1382 Siege of Moscow: The Golden Horde led by Tokhtamysh lays siege to the capital of the Grand Duchy of Moscow.
- 1514 The Battle of Chaldiran ends with a decisive victory for the Sultan Selim I, Ottoman Empire, over the Shah Ismail I, founder of the Safavid dynasty.
- 1521 Christian II of Denmark is deposed as king of Sweden and Gustav Vasa is elected regent.
- 1541 French explorer Jacques Cartier lands near Quebec City in his third voyage to Canada.
- 1566 - Beeldenstorm reaches Amsterdam.
- 1572 French Wars of Religion: Mob violence against thousands of Huguenots in Paris results in the St. Bartholomew's Day massacre.
- 1595 Long Turkish War: Wallachian prince Michael the Brave confronts the Ottoman army in the Battle of Călugăreni and achieves a tactical victory.
- 1600 Battle of Gifu Castle: The eastern forces of Tokugawa Ieyasu defeat the western Japanese clans loyal to Toyotomi Hideyori, leading to the destruction of Gifu Castle and serving as a prelude to the Battle of Sekigahara.
- 1614 Fettmilch Uprising: Jews are expelled from Frankfurt, Holy Roman Empire, following the plundering of the Judengasse.
- 1628 George Villiers, the first Duke of Buckingham, is assassinated by John Felton.
- 1650 Colonel George Monck of the English Army forms Monck's Regiment of Foot, which will later become the Coldstream Guards.
- 1655 Battle of Sobota: The Swedish Empire led by Charles X Gustav defeats the PolishLithuanian Commonwealth.
- 1703 Edirne event: Sultan Mustafa II of the Ottoman Empire is dethroned.
- 1775 American Revolutionary War: King George III delivers his Proclamation of Rebellion to the Court of St James's stating that the American colonies have proceeded to a state of open and avowed rebellion.
- 1784 Western North Carolina (now eastern Tennessee) declares itself an independent state under the name of Franklin; it is not accepted into the United States, and only lasts for four years.
- 1799 Napoleon I of France leaves Egypt for France en route to seizing power.
- 1813 At the Battle of Großbeeren, the Prussians under Von Bülow repulse the French army.
- 1831 Nat Turner's slave rebellion is suppressed.
- 1839 The United Kingdom captures Hong Kong as a base as it prepares for war with Qing China. The ensuing three-year conflict will later be known as the First Opium War.
- 1864 The Union Navy captures Fort Morgan, Alabama, thus breaking Confederate dominance of all ports on the Gulf of Mexico except Galveston, Texas.
- 1866 Austro-Prussian War ends with the Treaty of Prague.
- 1873 Albert Bridge in Chelsea, London opens.
- 1898 The Southern Cross Expedition, the first British venture of the Heroic Age of Antarctic Exploration, departs from London.
- 1904 The automobile tire chain is patented.
- 1914 World War I: Battle of Mons: The British Army begins withdrawal.
- 1921 British airship R-38 experiences structural failure over Hull in England and crashes in the Humber estuary. Of her 49 British and American training crew, only four survive.
- 1923 Captain Lowell Smith and Lieutenant John P. Richter performed the first mid-air refueling on De Havilland DH-4B, setting an endurance flight record of 37 hours.
- 1927 Italian anarchists Sacco and Vanzetti are executed after a lengthy, controversial trial.
- 1929 Hebron Massacre during the 1929 Palestine riots: Arab attack on the Jewish community in Hebron in the British Mandate of Palestine, continuing until the next day, resulted in the death of 6568 Jews and the remaining Jews being forced to leave the city.
- 1939 World War II: Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union sign a non-aggression treaty, the MolotovRibbentrop Pact. In a secret addition to the pact, the Baltic states, Finland, Romania, and Poland are divided between the two nations.
- 1942 World War II: Beginning of the Battle of Stalingrad.
- 1943 World War II: Kharkiv is liberated after the Battle of Kursk.
- 1944 World War II: Marseille is liberated by the Allies.
- 1944 World War II: King Michael of Romania dismisses the pro-Nazi government of Marshal Antonescu, who is arrested. Romania switches sides from the Axis to the Allies.
- 1944 Freckleton Air Disaster: A United States Army Air Forces B-24 Liberator bomber crashes into a school in Freckleton, England, killing 61 people.
- 1945 SovietJapanese War: The USSR State Defense Committee issues Decree no. 9898cc "About Receiving, Accommodation, and Labor Utilization of the Japanese Army Prisoners of War".
- 1946 Ordinance No. 46 of the British Military Government constitutes the German Länder (states) of Hanover and Schleswig-Holstein.
- 1947 - 8th Venice Film Festival opens (first since the start of World War II).
- 1948 World Council of Churches is formed by 147 churches from 44 countries.
- 1954 First flight of the Lockheed C-130 multi-role aircraft.
- 1958 Chinese Civil War: The Second Taiwan Strait Crisis begins with the People's Liberation Army's bombardment of Quemoy.
- 1962 - First Europe-US live TV program is broadcast via Telstar.
- 1966 Lunar Orbiter 1 takes the first photograph of Earth from orbit around the Moon.
- 1970 Organized by Mexican American labor union leader César Chávez, the Salad Bowl strike, the largest farm worker strike in U.S. history, begins.
- 1973 A bank robbery gone wrong in Stockholm, Sweden, turns into a hostage crisis; over the next five days the hostages begin to sympathise with their captors, leading to the term "Stockholm syndrome".
- 1982 Lebanese falangist leader Bechir Gemayel is elected as president.
- 1985 Hans Tiedge, top counter-spy of West Germany, defects to East Germany.
- 1987 The American male basketball team lost the gold medal to Brazilian team at the Pan American Games in Indianapolis, 120115.
- 1989 Singing Revolution: Two million people from Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania stand on the VilniusTallinn road, holding hands.
- 1990 Saddam Hussein appears on Iraqi state television with a number of Western "guests" (actually hostages) to try to prevent the Gulf War.
- 1990 Armenia declares its independence from the Soviet Union.
- 1990 West and East Germany announce that they will reunite on October 3.
- 1991 The World Wide Web is opened to the public.
- 1994 Eugene Bullard, the only black pilot in World War I, is posthumously commissioned as Second Lieutenant in the United States Air Force.
- 2000 Gulf Air Flight 072 crashes into the Persian Gulf near Manama, Bahrain, killing 143.
- 2006 Natascha Kampusch, who had been abducted at the age of ten, escapes from her captor Wolfgang Přiklopil, after eight years of captivity.
- 2007 The skeletal remains of Russia's last royal family members Alexei Nikolaevich, Tsarevich of Russia, and his sister Grand Duchess Anastasia are discovered near Yekaterinburg, Russia.
- 2011 A magnitude 5.8 (class: moderate) earthquake occurs in Virginia. Damage occurs to monuments and structures in Washington D.C. and the resulted damage is estimated at $200 million$300 million USD.
- 2011 Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi is overthrown after the National Transitional Council forces take control of Bab al-Azizia compound during the Libyan Civil War.
- 2012 A hot-air balloon crashes near the Slovenian capital of Ljubljana, killing six people and injuring 28 others.
- 2013 A riot at the Palmasola prison complex in Santa Cruz, Bolivia kills 31 people.
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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]
Famous Birthdays:
- 1754 Louis XVI of France
- 1769 Georges Cuvier, French biologist and academic
- 1785 Oliver Hazard Perry, American commander
- 1864 Eleftherios Venizelos, Greek lawyer, jurist, and politician, 93rd Prime Minister of Greece
- 1912 Gene Kelly, American actor, singer, and dancer
- 1924 Ephraim Kishon, Israeli author, screenwriter, and director
- 1926 Clifford Geertz, American anthropologist and academic
- 1946 Keith Moon, English drummer, songwriter, and producer
- 1952 Vicky Leandros, Greek singer
- 1961 Alexandre Desplat, French composer and conductor
- 1970 River Phoenix, American actor
- 1974 Konstantin Novoselov, Russian-English physicist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate
- 1978 Kobe Bryant, American basketball player and businessman
- 1988 Jeremy Lin, American basketball player
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Quote of the day
I'd rather have roses on my table than diamonds on my neck.
- Emma Goldman -
Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Andromitus, Percyton, United Continental States
^^^^^^^^^^
This seems to be a reoccuring issue because I'm not sure what efforts past (or the current) Vice Chancellor/President has made in terms of sending recruitment telegrams, etc. I would also be interested in a report from the incumbent with regards to this term's initiatives.
Jaslandia, Yukona, Cesorion, South Hyder
That would be good. By all officeholders actually
Jaslandia, Yukona, South Hyder
So we do have an open recruitment telegram, the one drafted and used by Vista. Of which I've sent roughly 2000 TGs, it just doesn't seem as effective which is why I am going to reword it to see if we can make it, more, elusive. I even did some research regarding recruiting and it seems like a huge problem is that, in all honesty, fewer people are joining NS than ever before. It's not as if I am a bad recruiter, I got the population of Libertatem up to 150 from a low point of 50. In fact, my speciality is actually recruiting and it what I am known for. Yet the fact is, even Libertatem which had roughly 200 nations less than a year ago now has roughly 80 nations, and I know for a fact that they are also sending recruitment telegrams.
I agree with you on the point that the cabinet needs to meet to figure out what we're going to do because old recruitment tactics aren't working and we need to figure out a new way to get more people into our region. A tried method that got Libertatem 20 new active citizens while I was president was mergers that I organized, getting experienced NS users from other regions facing the same problem of population decrease into your region. The problem is that a merger program is not something that I can pursue myself, we need the MoFA and Chancellor in on it, as well as the MoI to figure out a citizenship program for mergers. I have tried to reach out to Baxten, but I'm kind of lost on the issue as I cannot proceed without his oversight.
The next problem that I see is a lack of active language in the recruitment telegram. The recruitment telegram in Libertatem I recall utilized more active language than passive language, which is why it always had a higher success rate. As someone who has managed recruitment for both regions, there was always a higher success rate with the template we used over there. It touched upon the region's dedication to ending communism which is very provocative and elusive to the right audience. The recruitment telegram for this region is more oriented around community and friendship, and while that is nice, it's not very exciting and it's easy for it to get lost among others telegrams. I wanted to take steps to see how we could make our telegram move elusive, but that was also pending the approval of the Chancellor.
My Deputy Vista and I have done the best we could, but we faced roadblocks as we couldn't independently pursue mergers (even though we found a region that showed interest in merging) without the proper approval and we didn't want to tamper with the telegram without the proper approval.
Jaslandia, Cesorion
?? of course but its general knowledge soo, haha.
Awesome I cant wait!
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton
What region??
Perhaps I can help.
South Hyder
Central Pacific Empire
Cesorion, South Hyder
I have already had a puppet in that region with full citizenship and am quite well known among them, so once we figure out how to resolve our internal problems, I would be more than willing to work with both of you on the issue.
Vista Major
I will pay them a visit, as well
I do not mean leaving to relocate. I will just check the region and see who should we contact in the happy event.
Vista Major, Andromitus, South Hyder
Office of the Vice Chancellor
South Hyder
Baxten logged in to his nation roughly a day ago, but hasn't made an RMB post in 8 days or taken government activity since he made a post about his inactivity about two weeks ago. The Constitution of the Second Republic states that, "In the event that the Chancellor is absent for a period of more than 7 days" the VC will take over until his return. I believe this is saying in this instance that if he is absent from his role in government, which he has been, then this would occur. Upon his return he would get his position back, but I know a lot of people are concerned about the genuine crisis that we are facing and I think this is a step we can take to start working on it. We need an executive who can make decisions and help us now rather than later. Andromitus as the MoJ, Sulania as the MoIA, and Cesorion as the MoFA agree with this assessment and we are now making a formal plea to the Supreme Court to determine if this is a correct assessment of the situation. Baxten is a busy individual and we understand that, but this government needs to function and this is the way that will happen. His position will be waiting for him upon his permanent return.
Thank you all,
Hyder
UPDATE: A Supreme Court Justice has agreed with our assessment
Vista Major, Yukona, Cesorion
Just one thing.
You should write, above "Office of the Vice Chancellor" the phrase "Demeter House", where the Vice-Chancellery is headquartered.
Vista Major
Ah, you're right, totally forgot about that.
Vista Major, Cesorion
The one thing I'll say is that there isn't an overwhelming need to defer to the direction or approval of the Chancellor on items related to recruitment because the Vice Chancellor is, as per the Constitution, the office that retains authority over recruitment. The Chancellor can provide direction and unity to Cabinet, but this isn't necessary for Ministers to carryout the wide majority of their duties.
If it's something like wording changes that you think could significantly impact the success of the recruitment telegram, go for it. I would steer clear of verbiage such as "defeating communism in the world" because that's a) arguably discriminatory, and b) not what offer as a region. But you're absolutely right that the use of active language will likely have a greater impact and you don't require input from the Chancellor to make these changes. I myself served (briefly) as a Vice Chancellor back in the original CFN and I think I was able to get two or three recruits from a recruitment blast of 250 recipients. I can't speak to if they stayed for the short or the long-term as this was two years ago, but this could be owing to manageable wording changes as my recruitment telegram certainly didn't promise the conquering of any ideologies or such.
This asks for ruling of the Supreme Court. Rulings of the Supreme Court must be ascertained by way of a post on the Judicial Forums (http://thecoffincofn.boards.net/board/8/superior-court) for the strict purpose of judicial transparency. That way person X doesn't say Supreme Justice Y agrees; there is a written post by said Supreme Justice that fellow Justices and the public writ large can see for themselves.
Vista Major, Talkative Friedensriech, Yukona, South Hyder
Post self-deleted by South Hyder.
I made a prompt post, wasn't too sure about the formatting so I just posted what I posted here.
What are people talking aboot ?
Ye. "I'm now Pontifex Maximus because Justice X said so" doesn't really cut it, y'know?
[nation=short]Jaslandia[/nation]
We require your ruling on the below linked topic as soon as you are able.
http://thecoffincofn.boards.net/thread/40/constitutional-interpretation
Jaslandia
[B]Hall of the Internationale
Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Office of the Minister
A few moments ago, Neo-Icelandic Commomwealh telegrammed me about the possibility of merging with Central Pacific Empire. He then launched some insults against South Hyder, and advised me against merging with them. He said that "we do not deserve them". I want to say that what South Hyder did in other Regions, for me, is of NO IMPORTANCE.
Second, no-inexperienced- outsider shall have to do with our Diplomatic Relations. No. This is my field, and I shall deicde as I consider best for the Confederacy.
Thank you,
Cesorion, MoFA
Vista Major, South Hyder
Well proceed as you wish, I just wanted you to know immediate talks of merging or threats will scare the CPE away, Libertatem knows that to be true.
I would recommend you first try to build a relationship with the region and become their friend, this will help us in the long run.
I know that. I meant that no outsider will tell me what to do in the realm of Foreign Affairs. I will request embassies today or tomorow.
South Hyder
Also I want to point out, if the fact that Bax has logged in a day ago is used as the evidence to prove that he has not been absent in his position for over a week even though the citizens, his entire cabinet, the RMB, and Discord say otherwise, this creates a loophole that states that if a Chancellor logs in every few days while neglecting his duties, he's safe.
United Continental States
Noted. I am currently thinking about the situation, and I will post when I have come to a conclusion.
South Hyder
I would ask that citizens do not attempt to influence the decision of the Supreme Court by way of private telegrams. I spoke to judicial transparency in my earlier post just a short while ago, and initiating a discussion with Supreme Court Justices on an active case through a private telegram to "hope help convince [us] of this issue" is wholly inappropriate.
For the purpose of continued transparency, this was telegram received by both Jas and I:
[spoiler=Hyder's Telegram]I made a post on the Forums but realized it was probably out of order, so I'll just telegram it to you guys so you can assess these points that I hope help convince you of this issue.
I would just like to point out in response to Continental Commonwealths, this does not "consider an elected official to be absent if he or she has not posted on the RMB in the past seven days" I have cited every single member of the Cabinet, all which have agreed that they have not been in contact with Baxten for over the period of seven days mandated. I believe that if every cabinet member agrees that he has been inactive for seven days, paired with the fact that he has not posted in eight days, paired with the fact that he has not been on Discord, it is fair to assume that Article V Section II be invoked.
Absent means not present, and he has not been present to the public or his own cabinet for at least eight days.
I really do ask you to reassess your position, as many people have pointed out, we are in a crisis that needs to be dealt with now, not after the next election.
This is not even a huge request as he will be given his position upon his return and the election is coming up, as you pointed out.
Please think about the content of it and the true implications of this decision.[/spoiler]
My response, which is posted here (and on the forums) publicly and not sent by telegram, is as follows:
a) To say "every cabinet member agrees" is an incorrect statement because, as far as the Supreme Court is aware, only you (Hyder) have said that every cabinet member agrees. This is the same issue as you saying a Supreme Justice already agrees. Unless your provide documentation (such as through screenshots) of these agreements, it has to be considered as hearsay by the Courts.
b) The position of Chancellor is, according to the Constitution, also involved in diplomatic relations. Even if every Cabinet member states the Chancellor has not been in contact with them, the Chancellor could have still been assuming some of his duties by way of interacting with foreign governments and therefore still be said to be active. This is a possible scenario for as long as he has been logged into NationStates at sometime in the past seven days. I can't determine definitively that it is not without evidence to the contrary.
Vista Major, Talkative Friedensriech
Again, there was no intent to be secretive, as I even said in the telegram, I posted on the forums first, but was informed it may be out of order. I also posted the exact content of this on Discord.
In regard to requested screenshots-
Supreme Court Justice-http://imgur.com/a/ghJ6b
Cabinet -
MoFA - http://imgur.com/a/2Ajbt
MoJ - http://imgur.com/a/AqewA
MoIA - http://imgur.com/a/zUtWH
VC - Just take my word for it ;)
I'm sorry if my posting syntax was off or I did not act in an anticipated manner regarding certain aspects of my proposal as I am not yet a veteran of the region.
If there is any other way I can help, I'd be happy to.
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