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The United Providences Of Perland wrote:I don't get the environment. My state just had 3-4 inches of snow which stayed for about 60% of a week, then all melted in one 50 degree (F*) day. Now. In almost the middle of January it's 70 degrees (F*). Tf is this.

Where do you live? Sounds like N. Louisiana.

Baxten wrote:It's just great

At least you don't have the East Texas hicks

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:What's a lictor ??

Ancient Roman official who accompanied the Consul abd beared the fasces

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Baxten wrote:Where do you live? Sounds like N. Louisiana.

West Virginia.

Baxten

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:What's a lictor ??

What PK said. I meant more in the ceremonial guard kind of way, not the associated with fascism kind of way.

Sergeant-at-Arms may have been a better noun.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Yukona

Continental Commonwealths wrote:If this guy doesn't run for President/Vice President for real soon then I might just give up on the political system entirely.

*eyes Peng too*

I thought about it, but I'm already kinda busy as is with both being King, and doing my regular duties. Still, I'm always here in case the government or anyone else needs my advice. Gordon calls it being a 'consultant'.

Jaslandia, Continental Commonwealths

[B]Enclosed to both President Latrovia and the Nations of the CFN[/B]

Hey all, after Sul sent a message to Lat last night asking him to reconsider, I figured I might as well throw what little I can say into the mix and as such recorded a video to try to give my reasons for not closing the embassies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYWbWZ7t4VY&feature=youtu.be

Please copy and paste into the URL bar.

The United Providences Of Perland

Kalaron wrote:[B]Enclosed to both President Latrovia and the Nations of the CFN[/B]

Hey all, after Sul sent a message to Lat last night asking him to reconsider, I figured I might as well throw what little I can say into the mix and as such recorded a video to try to give my reasons for not closing the embassies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYWbWZ7t4VY&feature=youtu.be

Please copy and paste into the URL bar.

Short and concise

6 minutes 38 seconds

Classic Kal

The United Providences Of Perland

Kalaron wrote:[B]Enclosed to both President Latrovia and the Nations of the CFN[/B]

Hey all, after Sul sent a message to Lat last night asking him to reconsider, I figured I might as well throw what little I can say into the mix and as such recorded a video to try to give my reasons for not closing the embassies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYWbWZ7t4VY&feature=youtu.be

Please copy and paste into the URL bar.

I like that you too use "CFN" instead of that "CoFN" or "COFN" nonsense.

Guys, we've been far too inauspicious with respect to our region(s) to have an acronym that is pronounced "coffin".

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, The United Providences Of Perland, Confederacy Of Free Nations

Unfallious wrote:Short and concise

6 minutes 38 seconds

Classic Kal

I tried to make my last video concise.

1:30:00 :0

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I like that you too use "CFN" instead of that "CoFN" or "COFN" nonsense.

Guys, we've been far too inauspicious with respect to our region(s) to have an acronym that is pronounced "coffin".

Indeed.

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I like that you too use "CFN" instead of that "CoFN" or "COFN" nonsense.

Guys, we've been far too inauspicious with respect to our region(s) to have an acronym that is pronounced "coffin".

I prefer CoFN because CFN was a region that isn't this. It's either that or the Confederacy.

Jaslandia

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I like that you too use "CFN" instead of that "CoFN" or "COFN" nonsense.

Guys, we've been far too inauspicious with respect to our region(s) to have an acronym that is pronounced "coffin".

To be honest, I use CFN too. I've had to force myself to say CoFN for too long.

Unfallious wrote:Short and concise

6 minutes 38 seconds

Classic Kal

I said basically the same thing when I saw it, then praised him for the following reason.

Kalaron wrote:I tried to make my last video concise.

1:30:00 :0

The United Providences Of Perland

Unfallious wrote:I prefer CoFN because CFN was a region that isn't this. It's either that or the Confederacy.

A perfectly valid reason to TEMPT THE GODS, UNF

Jaslandia

Continental Commonwealths wrote:A perfectly valid reason to TEMPT THE GODS, UNF

you becoming sassy was the greatest thing that happened to this community

Jaslandia, Continental Commonwealths, The United Providences Of Perland

Unfallious wrote:you becoming sassy was the greatest thing that happened to this community

The reality is that I've always been this sassy, so just imagine the sacrifice and self-control it took to play the role of the mild mannered Chief Justice.

Nothing short of saintliness, if you ask me.

Jaslandia

THE GERMANIC EMPIRE/UNION Has been created to protect any European nation and beyond that join for freedom and democracy.

The United Providences Of Perland

Oelesa wrote:THE GERMANIC EMPIRE/UNION Has been created to protect any European nation and beyond that join for freedom and democracy.

oh hey I started a trend

Jaslandia

Unfallious wrote:oh hey I started a trend

Definitely.

The United Providences Of Perland

Oelesa wrote:THE GERMANIC EMPIRE/UNION Has been created to protect any European nation and beyond that join for freedom and democracy.

So many new unions, lets just hope they hold together :D

Jaslandia, Oelesa

Unfallious wrote:oh hey I started a trend

Your organization does me a frighten Unf

Oelesa

I don't know how often it's checked, so I'm just announcing it :p

I submitted my application for the Mentor Services

Continental Commonwealths, The United Providences Of Perland

Andromitus wrote:I don't know how often it's checked, so I'm just announcing it :p

I submitted my application for the Mentor Services

I approved it.

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:I approved it.

Woo

The United Providences Of Perland

http://s15.zetaboards.com/COFN/topic/10061422/3/#new

Posted. And you're so sweet for going alone with my story, Andy! :D

Magnatronia wrote:http://s15.zetaboards.com/COFN/topic/10061422/3/#new

Posted. And you're so sweet for going alone with my story, Andy! :D

You posted bombs, I didn't want to be meta, and it adds some tention

The United Providences Of Perland, Magnatronia

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Magnatronia wrote:http://s15.zetaboards.com/COFN/topic/10061422/3/#new

Posted. And you're so sweet for going alone with my story, Andy! :D

AHAAHAHHAAHAHAH DUDE WE'RE IDIOTS!

I did a widdle research and turns out Kinshasa is the capitol of the D.R. of Congo XD, you and I have been just bombing that zone indiscriminately, which is just hilarious

Magnatronia

Posted on the RP

http://s15.zetaboards.com/COFN/topic/10061422/3/#new

Hey guys.

I will try to keep this a simple and clear message to all of you.

While reading your comments and understanding your arguments and counter arguments as well as taking extreme notes on the threats of impeachment that I and my administration received. I got to ask that you all calm down a bit and get serious for a second.

Since day one of my Presidency, I have always been accused, politically attacked and criticised that I control my Ministers and tell them how to run their office. Not only this accusation has been proven wrong and a lie, but right now having Oel choosing to close embassies with GR, I get the same people that did accuse me long time ago, asking me now, to overrule the decision of one of my Ministers who they voted upon.

As funny as that is, it shows me one undeniable truth. That we are all united under the same principle that we can not stand one another.

In my humble opinion, I believe undeniably, that the region should be proud of the second Administration. Not only you got a strong President that sticks around and protects the rights of the citizens of the CFN, here and outside there. But you also got a group of people that have done some wonderful work around here. And that is whether you believe it or not!

When I discussed with Minister Oelesa his agenda and plans for the MoFA, I made sure that he understood the fact that he is the expert in his area and that I supported him at every step.

And in fact this is what I do with all my team's members. They are not my Ministers, they are my team. And that is despite the fact that the interests of some individuals has changed through time (lesson learned).

I told Oelesa that I would support his decision no matter what that was. In fact, I am not intending on changing his given order. Only he can do that!

Closed embassies does not necessarily mean that our relations end with the GR.

Especially when you had all been informed by former Minister Humpheria that we have a new policy around in the FA, which turns GR's Embassy into a Consulate. Our friends in the GR no matter how many they are, can always contact us through our Discord channel and our forums as they have always had in the past.

With that being said, I got to say that I Latrovia, am no ones friend, boyfriend, lover or husband. I am in fact, the President of the CFN and it is my duty and my responsobility to make sure that progress will be achieved in our region. And that is by building a strong two-key-factors. A strong Foreign Affairs and a strong Interior.

Thank you all,

The President

Vista Major

Latrovia wrote:Hey guys.

I will try to keep this a simple and clear message to all of you.

While reading your comments and understanding your arguments and counter arguments as well as taking extreme notes on the threats of impeachment that I and my administration received. I got to ask that you all calm down a bit and get serious for a second.

Since day one of my Presidency, I have always been accused, politically attacked and criticised that I control my Ministers and tell them how to run their office. Not only this accusation has been proven wrong and a lie, but right now having Oel choosing to close embassies with GR, I get the same people that did accuse me long time ago, asking me now, to overrule the decision of one of my Ministers who they voted upon.

As funny as that is, it shows me one undeniable truth. That we are all united under the same principle that we can not stand one another.

In my humble opinion, I believe undeniably, that the region should be proud of the second Administration. Not only you got a strong President that sticks around and protects the rights of the citizens of the CFN, here and outside there. But you also got a group of people that have done some wonderful work around here. And that is whether you believe it or not!

When I discussed with Minister Oelesa his agenda and plans for the MoFA, I made sure that he understood the fact that he is the expert in his area and that I supported him at every step.

And in fact this is what I do with all my team's members. They are not my Ministers, they are my team. And that is despite the fact that the interests of some individuals has changed through time (lesson learned).

I told Oelesa that I would support his decision no matter what that was. In fact, I am not intending on changing his given order. Only he can do that!

Closed embassies does not necessarily mean that our relations end with the GR.

Especially when you had all been informed by former Minister Humpheria that we have a new policy around in the FA, which turns GR's Embassy into a Consulate. Our friends in the GR no matter how many they are, can always contact us through our Discord channel and our forums as they have always had in the past.

With that being said, I got to say that I Latrovia, am no ones friend, boyfriend, lover or husband. I am in fact, the President of the CFN and it is my duty and my responsobility to make sure that progress will be achieved in our region. And that is by building a strong two-key-factors. A strong Foreign Affairs and a strong Interior.

Thank you all,

The President

I may only have served as MOFA once but I believe that if we are to create a stronger foreign affairs we need to forge newer and better regional alliances and open more embassies instead of closing one of the few we still have.

Jaslandia, Vista Major

I am pro-patriarchy. Hail to the Patriarch.

Aldaur wrote:I am pro-patriarchy. Hail to the Patriarch.

*twitch*

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Aldaur, Minnesota Dakota

Aldaur wrote:I am pro-patriarchy. Hail to the Patriarch.

I am pro-matriarch.

Minnesota Dakota wrote:I am pro-matriarch.

*nod*

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Minnesota Dakota

Vista Major wrote:*twitch*

Don't you mean triggered? :p

Minnesota Dakota wrote:I am pro-matriarch.

There is a lack of real men. What makes a real man? Not some bigoted arsehole, but a man who takes responsibility for himself and others, who understands what it means to provide and that sometimes, force is necessary. A real man respects women not because they are the same, but because that is what gentlemen do. A man is mature enough to understand reason, and does not accept the perversion of masculinist values. This is the type of man women want, and if you're not this, you're either a woman or a boy.

Aldaur wrote:I am pro-patriarchy. Hail to the Patriarch.

Minnesota Dakota wrote:I am pro-matriarch.

I just like dogs.

They're too good for us.

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Aldaur

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I just like dogs.

They're too good for us.

They are. Then again....they also make us clean their sh!t...soo :p

Aldaur wrote:Don't you mean triggered? :p

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/v8mZc0w2CQ4/hqdefault.jpg

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I just like dogs.

They're too good for us.

Agreed, I for one welcome our new pupper overlords

I just posted on the RP

http://s15.zetaboards.com/COFN/topic/10061422/3/#new

Aldaur, Continental Commonwealths

Aldaur wrote:They are. Then again....they also make us clean their sh!t...soo :p

I mean, it's more figurative sh!t, but have you been in a relation with a living human being?

Aldaur

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I mean, it's more figurative sh!t, but have you been in a relation with a living human being?

Touche lol Everyone has baggage.

Aldaur wrote:Touche lol Everyone has baggage.

Some people have Harry Potter-esque trunks. With accompanying owl cage.

Aldaur, Vista Major

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Some people have Harry Potter-esque trunks. With accompanying owl cage.

Daaaayyyum! Look at all that junk in that trunk!

Sinovet

Aldaur wrote:There is a lack of real men.

Trust me, there are quite a few out there

Aldaur wrote:What makes a real man?

Kindness, respect, and faith in humanity

Aldaur wrote:but a man who takes responsibility for himself and others, who understands what it means to provide

That, too

Aldaur wrote:and that sometimes, force is necessary

No. Full stop.

Aldaur wrote:A real man respects women not because they are the same

They should

Aldaur wrote:but because that is what gentlemen do.

Granted

Aldaur wrote:A man is mature enough to understand reason,

Yes

Aldaur wrote:and does not accept the perversion of masculinist values.

I argue against that

Aldaur wrote:This is the type of man women want,

You must not know a lot of women

Aldaur wrote:and if you're not this, you're either a woman or a boy.

Fallacies riddle this argument so much, it hurts

The Royal Republic Of Kumania

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Some people have Harry Potter-esque trunks. With accompanying owl cage.

Yasssssssssssssssss boo

Continental Commonwealths

Following new legislation in The Cross and Davids Star, children as young as eight can present logical proofs for the existence of the afterlife.

*cries* I'm so proud!😂

Jaslandia, Vista Major

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:Following new legislation in The Cross and Davids Star, children as young as eight can present logical proofs for the existence of the afterlife.

*cries* I'm so proud!😂

#godsnotdeadyet

The Cross And Davids Star

Jesus sexing Christ, I forgot how talkative you lot are

Percyton wrote:Snow can be dangerous. I've gotten stuck in snow a few times, as has Thomas, Henry, and Gordon. It may not be much now, but you should still be careful.

Thank you!

Those brutes! That seems very mean! It makes me thankful that Percyton wasn't impacted that much by World War II.

True, but considering that most of you population consists of trains, maybe to help prevent such a thing if someone were to be rude enough to invade Sodor, you should upgrade to maglev.

Jaslandia, Percyton

Vista Major wrote:#godsnotdeadyet

AMEN!

Sinovet wrote:Jesus sexing Christ, I forgot how talkative you lot are

I'm gonna pretend i didn't hear that so I won't get triggered.

Sinovet, Aldaur

Latrovia wrote:Since day one of my Presidency, I have always been accused, politically attacked

Before I respond to the rest of this message, can you please stop using this as a talking point? You use it all the time, even when it's not relevant to what's going on.

Latrovia wrote:Hey guys.

I will try to keep this a simple and clear message to all of you.

While reading your comments and understanding your arguments and counter arguments as well as taking extreme notes on the threats of impeachment that I and my administration received. I got to ask that you all calm down a bit and get serious for a second.

Decent, though a little condescending.

Latrovia wrote:Since day one of my Presidency, I have always been accused, politically attacked and criticised that I control my Ministers and tell them how to run their office. Not only this accusation has been proven wrong and a lie, but right now having Oel choosing to close embassies with GR, I get the same people that did accuse me long time ago, asking me now, to overrule the decision of one of my Ministers who they voted upon.

We told you not to micromanage, but you seemed to misunderstand what we said there as "Don't ever do anything whatsoever." So, I mean, unless someone else told you never to get involved in your ministries, I don't believe I'm the one this painted hypocritical stance.

Latrovia wrote:In my humble opinion, I believe undeniably, that the region should be proud of the second Administration. Not only you got a strong President that sticks around and protects the rights of the citizens of the CFN, here and outside there. But you also got a group of people that have done some wonderful work around here. And that is whether you believe it or not!

No. That's an opinion if it's been good or not. Objectively speaking: We have no new embassies, we are now down 1 actually. I have yet to see much activity from the Ministries of Internal and Justice, especially now that the law carryover has been abolished which means the Law Archive, Constabulary, among other duties of the ministry are no longer applicable. I don't see any reason to be proud of the 2nd administration, especially considering how rocky it's been with just public relations.

The thing is though, none of that was really relevant to the conversation and instead was more promoting your administration, which I guess is responding to the call for your impeachment.

Latrovia wrote:When I discussed with Minister Oelesa his agenda and plans for the MoFA, I made sure that he understood the fact that he is the expert in his area and that I supported him at every step.

Okay, still doesn't mean the minister should be given literal full autonomy to do what he wants. Otherwise, we wouldn't need a President, just the minister.

Latrovia wrote:And in fact this is what I do with all my team's members. They are not my Ministers, they are my team. And that is despite the fact that the interests of some individuals has changed through time (lesson learned).

I told Oelesa that I would support his decision no matter what that was. In fact, I am not intending on changing his given order. Only he can do that!

You are the leader. You are the President. You can, and when issues arise, should intervene. That's why you're the President.

Latrovia wrote:Closed embassies does not necessarily mean that our relations end with the GR.

Especially when you had all been informed by former Minister Humpheria that we have a new policy around in the FA, which turns GR's Embassy into a Consulate. Our friends in the GR no matter how many they are, can always contact us through our Discord channel and our forums as they have always had in the past.

Al could come on the Discord whether we had an embassy or not, and yes they can definitely come on the forums.

Frankly, again, it's the matter of our relationship with them. I already gave you my reasons in the telegram, and people have literally made videos about it, so I'm not going to make this post longer by just rehashing them.

Latrovia wrote:With that being said, I got to say that I Latrovia, am no ones friend, boyfriend, lover or husband. I am in fact, the President of the CFN and it is my duty and my responsobility to make sure that progress will be achieved in our region. And that is by building a strong two-key-factors. A strong Foreign Affairs and a strong Interior.

Thank you all,

The President

Yeah, you are the President. You are to be the people's guy in the government. There has been a decent outcry over this, relatively unified outcry in fact over it. Maybe do a poll or something, or maybe the HoD will take action to overwrite it.

No matter what though, I can tell you that I'm going to work tirelessly to get this decision overwritten. In your own words

Latrovia wrote:And that is whether you believe it or not!

Kalaron, Minnesota Dakota, Yukona

Sinovet wrote:Jesus sexing Christ, I forgot how talkative you lot are

It was all about you, Sine.

By the way, I remember that one time...

Sinovet, Jaslandia

I stand with Sulania.

Vista Major, Kalaron

Vista Major wrote:Trust me, there are quite a few out there

Have you seen the state of our society? No there are not. Our culture has become overly effeminate. There are very few real men.

Vista Major wrote:

No. Full stop.

All authority derives from force and force must be used to defend your family, your country, and your values. If you're not willing to use force, than you are not a man, but an unwilling boy. Men understand their responsibilities.

Vista Major wrote:

You must not know a lot of women

Fallacies riddle this argument so much, it hurts

Women want a man that is strong, reliable, dependable, someone who can provide, is devoted to their family, respectable, trustworthy, smart, confident, someone who likes children but isn't a child themselves. If you could sum it up in one word, responsible. What women really want is a masculine man. The more left leaning women may not say it because they have the image of an abusive, inconsiderate bigot when they think of masculinity, but that just isn't true. It is only natural that women want this, because this is how men should be, and is the same across all cultures.

No fallacies here.

Continental Commonwealths wrote:It was all about you, Sine.

By the way, I remember that one time...

Haha, good one

Aldaur wrote:Have you seen the state of our society? No there are not. Our culture has become overly effeminate. There are very few real men.

All authority derives from force and force must be used to defend your family, your country, and your values. If you're not willing to use force, than you are not a man, but an unwilling boy. Men understand their responsibilities.

Women want a man that is strong, reliable, dependable, someone who can provide, is devoted to their family, respectable, trustworthy, smart, confident, someone who likes children but isn't a child themselves. If you could sum it up in one word, responsible. What women really want is a masculine man. The more left leaning women may not say it because they have the image of an abusive, inconsiderate bigot when they think of masculinity, but that just isn't true. It is only natural that women want this, because this is how men should be, and is the same across all cultures.

No fallacies here.

How would you know what a women wants? Last time I checked not all women wanted a man.

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia

Minnesota Dakota wrote:How would you know what a woman wants? Last time I checked not all women wanted a man.

Minnesota Dakota wrote:How would you know what a women wants? Last time I checked not all women wanted a man.

Obviously, I am referencing to heterosexual women. Don't play dumb.

Aldaur wrote:Have you seen the state of our society? No there are not. Our culture has become overly effeminate. There are very few real men.

All authority derives from force and force must be used to defend your family, your country, and your values. If you're not willing to use force, than you are not a man, but an unwilling boy. Men understand their responsibilities.

Women want a man that is strong, reliable, dependable, someone who can provide, is devoted to their family, respectable, trustworthy, smart, confident, someone who likes children but isn't a child themselves. If you could sum it up in one word, responsible. What women really want is a masculine man. The more left leaning women may not say it because they have the image of an abusive, inconsiderate bigot when they think of masculinity, but that just isn't true. It is only natural that women want this, because this is how men should be, and is the same across all cultures.

No fallacies here.

You seem to equate femininity with weakness. A classical argument flawed in the fact that femininity does not overall make one weaker than their more masculine counterparts. Actually, the forcing of men to be more masculine than they would like makes them weaker, physically (due to pressures for them to get big quick, which can have very adverse effects on the body) and psychologically (being denied your basic self can lead to certain disorders, or, at the very least, break one's will--which is counterproductive to your vision).

Secondly, culture is not universal, at least in the respect at which you speak. The generalization that all women want a muscled man denies the fact that there are millions of women who genuinly prefer the exact opposite. Yes, this can be determined by both cultural influence and biological/psychological make-up.

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Magnatronia

Aldaur wrote:Obviously, I am referencing to heterosexual women. Don't play dumb.

You didn't specify. Are you saying referencing the LGBTQ+ community is "playing dumb"?

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Vista Major

Aldaur wrote:Obviously, I am referencing to heterosexual women. Don't play dumb.

I have a female friend who likes chubby men.

Aldaur wrote:I am pro-patriarchy. Hail to the Patriarch.

I am down with this. Long Live the Patriarchy.

Sinovet, Aldaur

Minnesota Dakota wrote:You didn't specify. Are you saying referencing the LGBTQ+ community is "playing dumb"?

I think he just means he's talking about the majority of the population. The playing dumb part is just for pointing out a minir exception and using it as an ultimate counter argument

Not that I know what either of you are talking about :p

Aldaur

Vista Major wrote:You seem to equate femininity with weakness. A classical argument flawed in the fact that femininity does not overall make one weaker than their more masculine counterparts. Actually, the forcing of men to be more masculine than they would like makes them weaker, physically (due to pressures for them to get big quick, which can have very adverse effects on the body) and psychologically (being denied your basic self can lead to certain disorders, or, at the very least, break one's will--which is counterproductive to your vision).

Secondly, culture is not universal, at least in the respect at which you speak. The generalization that all women want a muscled man denies the fact that there are millions of women who genuinly prefer the exact opposite. Yes, this can be determined by both cultural influence and biological/psychological make-up.

I never said women want muscled men, but want masculine men. For example, in Polynesian cultures, fat men are seen as masculine in their culture and is desirable to women. This is because to them, fat means they can provide for themselves and thus, others. Femininity isn't about strength. A woman can be strong, but strength is a masculine trait. There is no doubting it.

Minnesota Dakota wrote:You didn't specify. Are you saying referencing the LGBTQ+ community is "playing dumb"?

I'm not even going to respond to this because you know you're being dumb and that I was talking about heterosexual women. It is clear by context.

Sinovet

Sulania wrote:I have a female friend who likes chubby men.

I am down with this. Long Live the Patriarchy.

As do Polynesian women. Fat equates to masculinity to some.

Sinovet

After reading the interesting presidential address previously mentioned on the RMB I have one prominent thought:

I really enjoy the satisfying texture and consistency of a Nestle Crunch Bar. Honestly, I have had an ungodly amount today and it is so heavenly. Oh yeah and a big fan of the month of February!

Sinovet, The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Continental Commonwealths, Tserra

Aldaur wrote:As do Polynesian women. Fat equates to masculinity to some.

It almost seems like masculinity is relatively subjective and changes from woman to woman based on culture, upbringing, and other influences.

Sinovet, Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Aldaur, Minnesota Dakota

Also, I remind you that femenine and female are in no way the same thing.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Aldaur

Aldaur wrote:I never said women want muscled men, but want masculine men. For example, in Polynesian cultures, fat men are seen as masculine in their culture and is desirable to women. This is because to them, fat means they can provide for themselves and thus, others. Femininity isn't about strength. A woman can be strong, but strength is a masculine trait. There is no doubting it.

I'm not even going to respond to this because you know you're being dumb and that I was talking about heterosexual women. It is clear by context.

But you just did respond. How am I being dumb?

Humpheria Major wrote:After reading the interesting presidential address previously mentioned on the RMB I have one prominent thought:

I really enjoy the satisfying texture and consistency of a Nestle Crunch Bar. Honestly, I have had an ungodly amount today and it is so heavenly. Oh yeah and a big fan of the month of February!

I'm afraid, sir, we must disagree here.

Humpheria Major wrote:Nestle Crunch Bar

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Humpheria Major wrote:[B]Nestle Crunch Bar[/B]

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Humpheria Major wrote:[B]Nestle Crunch[/B]

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Humpheria Major wrote:[B]Nestle[/B]

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Hershey's anything is better.

Sinovet, Jaslandia, Continental Commonwealths, Minnesota Dakota

Sulania wrote:It almost seems like masculinity is relatively subjective and changes from woman to woman based on culture, upbringing, and other influences.

Well, sort of. There are common themes on what is masculine. What us typically different is what people consider to be masculine. If that makes sense. For example. One woman may think muscles is masculine, and another may think far is masculine, but they think each is masculine because it demonstrates to them that the man can provide for them.

Sinovet wrote:Also, I remind you that femenine and female are in no way the same thing.

Very true.

Imo, we should separate boys and girls in elementary school and have them taught by their respective sex. The reason being is that boys and girls are biologically different, and thus learn much differently.

Sinovet

Humpheria Major wrote:After reading the interesting presidential address previously mentioned on the RMB I have one prominent thought:

I really enjoy the satisfying texture and consistency of a Nestle Crunch Bar. Honestly, I have had an ungodly amount today and it is so heavenly. Oh yeah and a big fan of the month of February!

This is just the right amount of misdirection and cheekiness I have come to appreciate.

Unless, of course, you're just really excited for Presidents Day. In which case, good on ya- I just misunderstood the entire point of your message.

Jaslandia

When is the next election? How is everyone?

Aldaur wrote:Well, sort of. There are common themes on what is masculine. What us typically different is what people consider to be masculine. If that makes sense. For example. One woman may think muscles is masculine, and another may think far is masculine, but they think each is masculine because it demonstrates to them that the man can provide for them.

Very true.

Imo, we should separate boys and girls in elementary school and have them taught by their respective sex. The reason being is that boys and girls are biologically different, and thus learn much differently.

Either way, I'm down with the patriarchy. Right on man.

Aldaur

Sulania wrote:Either way, I'm down with the patriarchy. Right on man.

https://youtu.be/JXWBuoYc8SI?t=13

Jaslandia

I am scared for next Friday.

Sulania wrote:Either way, I'm down with the patriarchy. Right on man.

I was honestly being a bit edgy. What I want is masculine men and feminine women to be seen as different but complimentary halves and are meant to be partners as God willed it.

Aldaur wrote:I was honestly being a bit edgy. What I want is masculine men and feminine women to be seen as different but complimentary halves and are meant to be partners as God willed it.

What about men and women who don't fit those archetypes?

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Minnesota Dakota

Aldaur wrote:I was honestly being a bit edgy. What I want is masculine men and feminine women to be seen as different but complimentary halves and are meant to be partners as God willed it.

See, I'm not. I am perfectly okay with the patriarchy because I, nor my partner, will ever be affected by it. So... LONG LIVE THE PATRIARCHY!!!!

Nuremgard, Aldaur

Sulania wrote:See, I'm not. I am perfectly okay with the patriarchy because I, nor my partner, will ever be affected by it. So... LONG LIVE THE PATRIARCHY!!!!

Ah, but you have been raised in a culture which tells you it is okay to speak and treat women as second class citizens. You do not know any better. You too are a victim of the patriarchy.

#MenAreOppressedByThePatriachyToo

Jaslandia

Aldaur wrote:I was honestly being a bit edgy. What I want is masculine men and feminine women to be seen as different but complimentary halves and are meant to be partners as God willed it.

Same

Aldaur

Nuremgard wrote:What about men and women who don't fit those archetypes?

What about them? They are unhappy. They get divorced. They are degenerate. Pretty much as society is now.

For an adequately functioning society, archetypes must be restored and recognized as a matter of what people naturally want, no matter how much people fight it.

Nuremgard wrote:Ah, but you have been raised in a culture which tells you it is okay to speak and treat women as second class citizens. You do not know any better. You too are a victim of the patriarchy.

#MenAreOppressedByThePatriachyToo

The Patriarchy is not the oppression of women. It is the calling of men to be role models and leaders for the family unit. Men do not treat women as second class citizens. That is something boys do.

Aldaur wrote:What about them? They are unhappy. They get divorced. They are degenerate. Pretty much as society is now.

For an adequately functioning society, archetypes must be restored and recognized as a matter of what people naturally want, no matter how much people fight it.

Uh huh. Because as we know, only those who don't fit into these artificial, socially constructed archetypes get divorced, are unhappy, are degenerate etc.

I'm not a very masculine man and I'm gay. Am I unhappy and degenerate? Or am I fighting what I "naturally" want, which to you, would be a feminine woman?

Jaslandia

Aldaur wrote:What about them? They are unhappy. They get divorced. They are degenerate. Pretty much as society is now.

For an adequately functioning society, archetypes must be restored and recognized as a matter of what people naturally want, no matter how much people fight it.

I mean, are we making general statements here or literal ones? Because I have anecdotes that can, in debate, be used to dismantle "All X's are Y" arguments.

Jaslandia

Latrovia wrote:Hey guys.

I will try to keep this a simple and clear message to all of you.

While reading your comments and understanding your arguments and counter arguments as well as taking extreme notes on the threats of impeachment that I and my administration received. I got to ask that you all calm down a bit and get serious for a second.

Since day one of my Presidency, I have always been accused, politically attacked and criticised that I control my Ministers and tell them how to run their office. Not only this accusation has been proven wrong and a lie, but right now having Oel choosing to close embassies with GR, I get the same people that did accuse me long time ago, asking me now, to overrule the decision of one of my Ministers who they voted upon.

First, you haven't.

Unf made a joke that you -still- refuse to take as such, wherein he noted to Humph that he shouldn't "Legitimize the new administration".... a power that I [B]really[/B] shouldn't have to stress that he knows neither he nor Humph have.

Beyond that, you've attempted to say that I was the reason people voted no on your bill, and the reason people didn't like everything you did was actually just that they were supporters of Humph...then there was that time you called Humph "Salty" and stated you didn't want to deal with his "constant change of moods." in the Debate chamber to dismiss his -admittedly nitpicky- note that you had no authority to request the House Convene...or that time that you tried to claim that people were "Showing their true colours" on the Forums because they didn't vote with you...or that time that you actually got mad at people for disagreeing with the notion of you using executive power to overrule the will of the people -that is, to integrate a failed bill as a policy instead while stating that "The jokes on you"- while still claiming to only be making choices by the will of the people.

So...uh...really, you've kinda been infuriating people and then claiming harm.

Furthermore, it was Humph and a few others who said that you were kinda being too grubby with reports from the ministries, I never said anything to you at all about it, and I wouldn't, so I kinda resent the thought that I'm being hypocritical here.

I mean, really, this is more people asking you to at least have a poll, I'm sorry that it seems your wish to strike at critics with some personal bias in decisions is more important than that terribly hard democratic ideal.

Latrovia wrote:

As funny as that is, it shows me one undeniable truth. That we are all united under the same principle that we can not stand one another.

Or, maybe it shows that people would rather defend Al's ability to post here without being forced to leave his region than fall behind some strange idea of "Efficiency" that needlessly cuts it out.

I'd address the other points, but unrelated rhetoric without evidence is hardly worth responding to at 10:26 at night on a Thursday.

Frankly, the point still stands, the people of the Commonwealth seem to support a poll, so if the good Oelesa or The President would kindly at least make one, I would be very thankful.

Sulania, Minnesota Dakota

Aldaur wrote:What about them? They are unhappy. They get divorced. They are degenerate. Pretty much as society is now.

For an adequately functioning society, archetypes must be restored and recognized as a matter of what people naturally want, no matter how much people fight it.

But what if what somebody wants doesn't fit an archetype?

Nuremgard, The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia

Minnesota Dakota wrote:But what if what somebody wants doesn't fit an archetype?

They're unhappy and degenerate apparently.

Aldaur

Aldaur wrote:What about them? They are unhappy. They get divorced. They are degenerate. Pretty much as society is now.

For an adequately functioning society, archetypes must be restored and recognized as a matter of what people naturally want, no matter how much people fight it.

um yeah to hell with that good sir I'll do whatever the frickity frack I want

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Minnesota Dakota

Nuremgard wrote:They're unhappy and degenerate apparently.

#DegeneratePride

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Minnesota Dakota

Looks like we've got some non-normals here. Oh wait their isn't a normal.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:Uh huh. Because as we know, only those who don't fit into these artificial, socially constructed archetypes get divorced, are unhappy, are degenerate etc.

I'm not a very masculine man and I'm gay. Am I unhappy and degenerate? Or am I fighting what I "naturally" want, which to you, would be a feminine woman?

Again, I'm just talking about heterosexuals. Homosexuals have their own stuff to sort out that I don't care to have a say in.

Nuremgard wrote:They're unhappy and degenerate apparently.

They are. No one wants to admit they are unhappy, but they are. It just becomes an additional thing to be unhappy about.

Minnesota Dakota wrote:Looks like we've got some non-normals here. Oh wait their isn't a normal.

Yes there is. People who say there isn't a normal are moral relativists who are lost.

Aldaur wrote:Again, I'm just talking about heterosexuals. Homosexuals have their own stuff to sort out that I don't care to have a say in.

They are. No one wants to admit they are unhappy, but they are. It just becomes an additional thing to be unhappy about.

Cheers for that sterling analysis, Dr Freud.

I like you, Ald. You're a mate. But you talk some bullsh!t sometimes.

Jaslandia, Aldaur, Kalaron

Aldaur wrote:Yes there is. People who say there isn't a normal are moral relativists who are lost.

What is the normal then?

The Royal Republic Of Kumania wrote:epic meme

I can get down with that.

The Royal Republic Of Kumania

Nuremgard wrote:Cheers for that sterling analysis, Dr Freud.

I like you, Ald. You're a mate. But you talk some bullsh!t sometimes.

Right back you bud :p It's not my fault that you don't like that I have moved sharply to the right :p

Aldaur wrote:They are. No one wants to admit they are unhappy, but they are. It just becomes an additional thing to be unhappy about.

I mean, claiming to know the personal thoughts and feelings of every heterosexual man/woman is kinda arrogant, especially when you highlight it with the idea that they just won't admit it.

Aldaur wrote:Again, I'm just talking about heterosexuals. Homosexuals have their own stuff to sort out that I don't care to have a say in.

Oh? What stuff? Do share.

Nuremgard, The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Minnesota Dakota

We should all put aside our differences and work together

...to nuke Aldaur.

Nuremgard, The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Aldaur, Minnesota Dakota

Aldaur wrote:Again, I'm just talking about heterosexuals. Homosexuals have their own stuff to sort out that I don't care to have a say in.

They are. No one wants to admit they are unhappy, but they are. It just becomes an additional thing to be unhappy about.

I'm unhappy that you think that since I'm a heterosexual male that I should be prioritizing having rock hard abs and being a family man instead of tryna have the most fantastic spectacular wondrous majestic soft amazing fluffy hair to ever exist.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Minnesota Dakota

Minnesota Dakota wrote:What is the normal then?

Masculine heterosexual men and feminine heterosexual women.

It should be noted that what isn't normal does not equate with being bad. Homosexuals for example are not normal because they only make up 3% of the population (in the US). Therefore, they are not in the norm. If things like homosexuality or gender dysphoria were normal, they would never have been seen as problems or something worth fighting for in the first place.

Aldaur wrote:Right back you bud :p It's not my fault that you don't like that I have moved sharply to the right :p

Move sharply to the right of Genghis Khan if you want, mate. Opinions are like arseholes. We've all got one.

Jaslandia, Aldaur

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