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Nuremgard wrote:To be fair, Britain wasn't alone. The Soviets were our allies and were fighting a savage assault from the Nazis on the eastern front. And the Americans did come into it near the end. However, I don't doubt that British resolve helped keep morale up. Had the UK caved to peace terms, Europe would have fallen. Also, us winning the Battle of Britain dealt a severe blow to the Reich.

Note: Australia, Canada, New Zealand, India and China were also on our side. I cant specify their exact contributions to the war effort, however. Still worth mentioning I think.

From the perspective of Darkest Hour it's actually in reference to the 360-ish days following the fall of France until the invasion of the Soviet Union when Britain was 100% alone. It's Empire could afford little protection when Britain was directly at risk of invasion in a short period of time, thus why you have all of this wild speculation and panic from that period and the serious consideration of actually negotiating with Germany. It wasn't until the Soviet Union was invaded that Britain was finally afforded some kind of relief and was able to truly think they could come out the other side of this in one piece.

Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:To be fair, Britain wasn't alone. The Soviets were our allies and were fighting a savage assault from the Nazis on the eastern front. And the Americans did come into it near the end. However, I don't doubt that British resolve helped keep morale up. Had the UK caved to peace terms, Europe would have fallen. Also, us winning the Battle of Britain dealt a severe blow to the Reich.

Note: Australia, Canada, New Zealand, India and China were also on our side. I cant specify their exact contributions to the war effort, however. Still worth mentioning I think.

I think the rest of the Commonwealths resources were tied up elsewhere to the point that many considered the contingency of having to operate an exiled government from the Empire. Regardless, I was talking about the early war - there was no Battle of Britain, we’d just lost at Dunkirk, German spies were incredibly active and the threat was very real. It’s easy for armchair generals to say this and that but in reality it’s not a simple affair of Germany couldn’t and wouldn’t, therefore there’s no rhyme to their reason.

Yukona wrote:I think the rest of the Commonwealths resources were tied up elsewhere to the point that many considered the contingency of having to operate an exiled government from the Empire. Regardless, I was talking about the early war - there was no Battle of Britain, we’d just lost at Dunkirk, German spies were incredibly active and the threat was very real. It’s easy for armchair generals to say this and that but in reality it’s not a simple affair of Germany couldn’t and wouldn’t, therefore there’s no rhyme to their reason.

Historians still argue even to this day whether or not Germany's Operation Sea Lion would have succeeded or not. My own personal feeling is that Britain would have won the day in a Nazi invasion. The Battle of Britain proved that the UK and her allies were fearless fighters in the air. And as for a sea invasion? Well come on. Britain is an island nation and the Royal Navy was second to none. Plus, Germany didn't have much experience with sea warfare

Unfallious wrote:From the perspective of Darkest Hour it's actually in reference to the 360-ish days following the fall of France until the invasion of the Soviet Union when Britain was 100% alone. It's Empire could afford little protection when Britain was directly at risk of invasion in a short period of time, thus why you have all of this wild speculation and panic from that period and the serious consideration of actually negotiating with Germany. It wasn't until the Soviet Union was invaded that Britain was finally afforded some kind of relief and was able to truly think they could come out the other side of this in one piece.

According to a new book (I forget the name), Hitler was prepared to withdraw from western Europe and give Britain peace if we agreed to remain neutral while the Nazis launched an uninterrupted invasion of the USSR. If this is true (and it appears to be since the book is meant to provide evidence of a detailed peace treaty which Rudolph Hess was set to deliver) it would seem that Hitler thought his Lebensraum policy was more important than securing the western front by force. But the clincher was always Britain. He wanted to subdue us and the Empire, preferably by peace. But when he saw Churchill would not bend, he resolved to go to war with the UK.

Jaslandia

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New developments in the works.

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Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:Historians still argue even to this day whether or not Germany's Operation Sea Lion would have succeeded or not. My own personal feeling is that Britain would have won the day in a Nazi invasion. The Battle of Britain proved that the UK and her allies were fearless fighters in the air. And as for a sea invasion? Well come on. Britain is an island nation and the Royal Navy was second to none. Plus, Germany didn't have much experience with sea warfare

According to a new book (I forget the name), Hitler was prepared to withdraw from western Europe and give Britain peace if we agreed to remain neutral while the Nazis launched an uninterrupted invasion of the USSR. If this is true (and it appears to be since the book is meant to provide evidence of a detailed peace treaty which Rudolph Hess was set to deliver) it would seem that Hitler thought his Lebensraum policy was more important than securing the western front by force. But the clincher was always Britain. He wanted to subdue us and the Empire, preferably by peace. But when he saw Churchill would not bend, he resolved to go to war with the UK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFpd8_-nkH8

Nuremgard

Nuremgard wrote:Historians still argue even to this day whether or not Germany's Operation Sea Lion would have succeeded or not. My own personal feeling is that Britain would have won the day in a Nazi invasion. The Battle of Britain proved that the UK and her allies were fearless fighters in the air. And as for a sea invasion? Well come on. Britain is an island nation and the Royal Navy was second to none. Plus, Germany didn't have much experience with sea warfare

According to a new book (I forget the name), Hitler was prepared to withdraw from western Europe and give Britain peace if we agreed to remain neutral while the Nazis launched an uninterrupted invasion of the USSR. If this is true (and it appears to be since the book is meant to provide evidence of a detailed peace treaty which Rudolph Hess was set to deliver) it would seem that Hitler thought his Lebensraum policy was more important than securing the western front by force. But the clincher was always Britain. He wanted to subdue us and the Empire, preferably by peace. But when he saw Churchill would not bend, he resolved to go to war with the UK.

Nazi policy was always supremely pragmatic. The only irrational aspect would be the whole anti-semitism final solution stuff and even then it had some basis in pragmatism. In terms of other policy, the Third Reich was all about expanding to cover Continental Europe and then subduing Russia to provide living space. In modern times the Nazis are presented as the conventional evil race of evil people, and they were supremely evil lets not mistake that, but they were driven by pragmatism and the desire to build a 1,000 year Reich, not to conquer the world. Hitler had some kind of respect for Britain and conquering it was never on his agenda, it was apparently a great disappointment to him that Britain wouldn't align with Germany or, at the very least, concede to it.

Jaslandia, Yukona, Spanelsko

Nuremgard wrote:Historians still argue even to this day whether or not Germany's Operation Sea Lion would have succeeded or not. My own personal feeling is that Britain would have won the day in a Nazi invasion. The Battle of Britain proved that the UK and her allies were fearless fighters in the air. And as for a sea invasion? Well come on. Britain is an island nation and the Royal Navy was second to none. Plus, Germany didn't have much experience with sea warfare

According to a new book (I forget the name), Hitler was prepared to withdraw from western Europe and give Britain peace if we agreed to remain neutral while the Nazis launched an uninterrupted invasion of the USSR. If this is true (and it appears to be since the book is meant to provide evidence of a detailed peace treaty which Rudolph Hess was set to deliver) it would seem that Hitler thought his Lebensraum policy was more important than securing the western front by force. But the clincher was always Britain. He wanted to subdue us and the Empire, preferably by peace. But when he saw Churchill would not bend, he resolved to go to war with the UK.

I'm not talking about the actual feasibility of the operations in historic hindsight, where we have all the information in one place. From the perspective of Britain after Dunkirk, the threat of a German invasion was a real possibility, hence it should be (and was) prepared for. And that news in the latter part of your answer isn't new, we've known for a long time that Hitler hoped that Britain would remain neutral or at least leave the war, once we actually had armed conflict on the continent. In fact, before the war he considered us an "honourable Aryan people" (which we're not, even by his own definition, but that was made concrete by eugenic studies later on in the war - which were also pseudo-scientific bullsh*t anyway).

Jaslandia

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Yukona wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgXyVL7KgAY

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW7E7YUMy88

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Unfallious wrote:Nazi policy was always supremely pragmatic. The only irrational aspect would be the whole anti-semitism final solution stuff and even then it had some basis in pragmatism. In terms of other policy, the Third Reich was all about expanding to cover Continental Europe and then subduing Russia to provide living space. In contemporary times the Nazis are presented as the conventional evil race of evil people, and they were supremely evil lets not mistake that, but they were driven by pragmatism and the desire to build a 1,000 year Reich, not to conquer the world. Hitler had some kind of respect for Britain and conquering it was never on his agenda, it was apparently a great disappointment to him that Britain wouldn't align with Germany or, at the very least, concede to it.

Yukona wrote:I'm not talking about the actual feasibility of the operations in historic hindsight, where we have all the information in one place. From the perspective of Britain after Dunkirk, the threat of a German invasion was a real possibility, hence it should be (and was) prepared for. And that news in the latter part of your answer isn't new, we've known for a long time that Hitler hoped that Britain would remain neutral or at least leave the war, once we actually had armed conflict on the continent. In fact, before the war he considered us an "honourable Aryan people" (which we're not, even by his own definition, but that was made concrete by eugenic studies later on in the war - which were also pseudo-scientific bullsh*t anyway).

Was just about to mention that Hitler did desire peace with Britain because we were considered high up on the racial food chain. Second only to the Nordic Aryans I believe. But yes, I know, there was a real fear of invasion. Thankfully it didn't happen.

Jaslandia, Yukona

Finally got rid if the blasted monarchy!

https://youtu.be/SiAGwKw1kRc

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Axeldonia wrote:Finally got rid if the blasted monarchy!

https://youtu.be/SiAGwKw1kRc

Lucky you. I've been trying to democratise New Salvatore for ages but that damned autocracy policy refuses to leave.

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Spanelsko

Nuremgard wrote:Lucky you. I've been trying to democratise New Salvatore for ages but that damned autocracy policy refuses to leave.

Once you become a monarchy you just cant leave.....

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Spanelsko wrote:Once you become a monarchy you just cant leave.....

The monarchy isn't the issue. New Salvatore is meant to be a monarchy. The ruling party is monarchist. It's just still an autocracy. I want to institute democratic elections.

Spanelsko

Nuremgard wrote:The monarchy isn't the issue. New Salvatore is meant to be a monarchy. The ruling party is monarchist. It's just still an autocracy. I want to institute democratic elections.

Oh ok, well then the people must really like the autocracy then :p If they refuse to have democracy :p

Nuremgard

Spanelsko wrote:Oh ok, well then the people must really like the autocracy then :p If they refuse to have democracy :p

There are a few policies I want to change such as allowing a free press, instituting elections, banning sortition, banning compulsory organ harvesting.

Spanelsko

To this day i dont understand how there is still 4.5% of all people that die because of old age, in my nation HOW? we are cannibals, have ritual sacrifices and slavery with child labour, how do they manage to survive that?!

Also good luck Nurem with the issues.

Russkov Soviet, Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Spanelsko wrote:To this day i dont understand how there is still 4.5% of all people that die because of old age, in my nation HOW? we are cannibals, have ritual sacrifices and slavery with child labour, how do they manage to survive that?!

Also good luck Nurem with the issues.

Maybe they are the elite and are thus exempt from sacrifice. And thank you.

Spanelsko

Nuremgard wrote:Maybe they are the elite and are thus exempt from sacrifice. And thank you.

if it would be the army it would make sense, or the government since we banned private industries no one else should be able to escape (except for inquisition) also now that i think about this, we have forced gun ownership and we are a dictatorship, i didnt think that through now did i? Maybe thats why we always collapse :D

Nuremgard

Oh, screw this. I take the business-friendly option in a nation to improve employment knowing it would hurt the environment. What happens? Taxes go up 4%, my environment collapses and employment goes DOWN.

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Axeldonia

Nuremgard wrote:Oh, screw this. I take the business-friendly option in a nation to improve employment knowing it would hurt the environment. What happens? Taxes go up 4%, my environment collapses and employment goes DOWN.

Only in NS.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Spanelsko

Russkov Soviet wrote:Only in NS.

How's the Union?

Russkov Soviet

http://iiwiki.com/wiki/K-440

Air-Superiority fighter is done.

[spoiler=Today is January 24 and today are:]

Today is January 24 and today are:

- Beer Can Appreciation Day

- Belly Laugh Day

- Feria de Alasitas (La Paz, Bolivia)

- Library Shelfie Day

- Macintosh Computer Day

- National Compliment Day (United States)

- National Peanut Butter Day (United States)

- Our Lady of Peace (Roman Catholic Church)

- Talk Like A Grizzled Prospector Day

- Unification Day (Romania)

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- AD41 – Roman Emperor Caligula, known for his eccentricity and sadistic despotism, is assassinated by his disgruntled Praetorian Guards. The Guard then proclaims Caligula's uncle Claudius as Emperor

- 1438 – The Council of Basel suspends Pope Eugene IV.

- 1458 – Matthias Corvinus becomes king of Hungary.

- 1624 – Afonso Mendes, appointed by Pope Gregory XV as Prelate of Ethiopia, arrives at Massawa from Goa.

- 1679 – King Charles II of England dissolves the Cavalier Parliament.

- 1739 – Peshva warrior Chimnaji Appa defeats Portuguese forces and captures Tarapur Fort, India.

- 1742 – Charles VII Albert becomes Holy Roman Emperor.

- 1758 – During the Seven Years' War the leading burghers of Königsberg submit to Elizabeth of Russia, thus forming Russian Prussia (until 1763)

- 1817 – Crossing of the Andes: Many soldiers of Juan Gregorio de las Heras are captured during the Action of Picheuta.

- 1835 – Slaves in Salvador da Bahia, Brazil, stage a revolt, which is instrumental in ending slavery there 50 years later.

- 1848 – California Gold Rush: James W. Marshall finds gold at Sutter's Mill near Sacramento.

- 1857 – The University of Calcutta is formally founded as the first fully fledged university in South Asia.

- 1859 – The United Principalities of Moldavia and Wallachia (later named Romania) formed as a personal union under the rule of Domnitor Alexandru Ioan Cuza.

- 1862 – Bucharest is proclaimed the capital of Romania.

- 1900 – Second Boer War: Boers stop a British attempt to break the Siege of Ladysmith in the Battle of Spion Kop.

- 1908 – The first Boy Scout troop is organized in England by Robert Baden-Powell.

- 1915 – World War I: British Grand Fleet battle cruisers under Vice-Admiral Sir David Beatty engage Rear-Admiral Franz von Hipper's battle cruisers in the Battle of Dogger Bank.

- 1916 – In Brushaber v. Union Pacific Railroad Co., the Supreme Court of the United States declares the federal income tax constitutional.

- 1918 – The Gregorian calendar is introduced in Russia by decree of the Council of People's Commissars effective February 14(NS)

- 1933 – The 20th Amendment to the United States Constitution is ratified, changing the beginning and end of terms for all elected federal offices.

- 1939 – The deadliest earthquake in Chilean history strikes Chillán, killing approximately 28,000 people.

- 1942 – World War II: The Allies bombard Bangkok, leading Thailand, then under Japanese control, to declare war against the United States and United Kingdom.

- 1943 – World War II: Franklin D. Roosevelt and Winston Churchill conclude a conference in Casablanca.

- 1946 – The United Nations General Assembly passes its first resolution to establish the United Nations Atomic Energy Commission.

- 1960 – Algerian War: Some units of European volunteers in Algiers stage an insurrection known as the "barricades week", during which they seize government buildings and clash with local police.

- 1961 – Goldsboro B-52 crash: A bomber carrying two H-bombs breaks up in mid-air over North Carolina. The uranium core of one weapon remains lost.

- 1968 – Vietnam War: The 1st Australian Task Force launches Operation Coburg against the North Vietnamese Army and Viet Cong during wider fighting around Long Bình and Biên Hòa

- 1972 – Japanese Sgt. Shoichi Yokoi is found hiding in a Guam jungle, where he had been since the end of World War II.

- 1977 – Atocha massacre occurs in Madrid during the Spanish transition to democracy.

- 1978 – Soviet satellite Kosmos 954, with a nuclear reactor on board, burns up in Earth's atmosphere, scattering radioactive debris over Canada's Northwest Territories. Only 1% is recovered.

- 1984 – Apple Computer places the Macintosh personal computer on sale in the United States.

- 1989 – Notorious serial killer Ted Bundy, with over 30 known victims, is executed by the electric chair at the Florida State Prison

- 1990 – Japan launches Hiten, the country's first lunar probe, the first robotic lunar probe since the Soviet Union's Luna 24 in 1976, and the first lunar probe launched by a country other than Soviet Union or the United States.

- 2003 – The United States Department of Homeland Security officially begins operation.

- 2009 – Cyclone Klaus makes landfall near Bordeaux, France, causing 26 deaths as well as extensive disruptions to public transport and power supplies.

- 2011 – At least 35 die and 180 are injured in a bombing at Moscow's Domodedovo Airport.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 0076 – Hadrian, Roman emperor

- 1712 – Frederick the Great, Prussian king

- 1732 – Pierre Beaumarchais, French playwright and financier

- 1746 – Gustav III of Sweden

- 1776 – E. T. A. Hoffmann, German jurist, author, and composer

- 1820 – Henry Jarvis Raymond, American journalist, co-founder of The New York Times

- 1848 – Vasily Surikov, Russian painter

- 1866 – Jaan Poska, Estonian lawyer and politician, 1st Estonian Minister of Foreign Affairs

- 1888 – Vicki Baum, Austrian author and screenwriter

- 1888 – Ernst Heinkel, German engineer and businessman, founded the Heinkel Aircraft Manufacturing Company

- 1895 – Eugen Roth, German poet and songwriter

- 1901 – Edward Turner, English engineer

- 1917 – Ernest Borgnine, American actor

- 1928 – Desmond Morris, English zoologist, ethologist, and painter

- 1940 – Joachim Gauck, German pastor and politician, 11th President of Germany

- 1941 – Dan Shechtman, Israeli chemist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1941 – Neil Diamond, American singer-songwriter and guitaris

- 1943 – Peter Struck, German lawyer and politician, 13th German Federal Minister of Defence

- 1943 – Sharon Tate, American model and actress

- 1949 – John Belushi, American actor and screenwriter

- 1961 – Nastassja Kinski, German-American actress and producer

- 1987 – Luis Suárez, Uruguayan footballer

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Quote of the day

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Jaslandia, Kalaron, Mercunova

! SEND ME NOOTS !

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Mercunova

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:! SEND ME NOOTS !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1_KJBq1AnQ

time: 1:41 to 2:15

Penguania And Antarctica

Rest in Chaos Vulkan.

Lex Caledonia wrote:https://media2.giphy.com/media/l0Iy95UpK6KGsL9hS/source.gif

Something I can help you with sir?

Jaslandia, Lex Caledonia

Nuremgard wrote:How's the Union?

It is doing well. I do want to get rid of two of my policies though. "Parental Licensing" and "Autocracy". Mating is a natural part of life for us Equines. And we DO have elections, but NS thinks we don't.

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica, Spanelsko

The Empire Of Handland wrote:Something I can help you with sir?

Camelon is my hometown in real life! 2spooky

Lex Caledonia wrote:Camelon is my hometown in real life! 2spooky

My family is actually from there. I use a lot of old Norse places as my cities and what not.

Lex Caledonia

Russkov Soviet wrote:It is doing well. I do want to get rid of two of my policies though. "Parental Licensing" and "Autocracy". Mating is a natural part of life for us Equines. And we DO have elections, but NS thinks we don't.

Hmmm (decides to look at soviet) death causes= 63% disappearance rate. I rather not ask.....

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia

Spanelsko wrote:Hmmm (decides to look at soviet) death causes= 63% disappearance rate. I rather not ask.....

I didn't even realize that was so high. Hmmm... I will have to investigate.

Jaslandia, Spanelsko

Russkov Soviet wrote:It is doing well. I do want to get rid of two of my policies though. "Parental Licensing" and "Autocracy". Mating is a natural part of life for us Equines. And we DO have elections, but NS thinks we don't.

NS also thinks I ave enforced atheism despite building magnificent churches and having a national anthem that extols the importance of Christianity.

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia

Lex Caledonia Nuremgard The Scottish Twins

https://youtu.be/1Yq-CCO2yJY

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:! SEND ME NOOTS !

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Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia, Yukona, The Scottish Twins

Jaslandia wrote:Lex Caledonia Nuremgard The Scottish Twins

https://youtu.be/1Yq-CCO2yJY

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Alba gu bràth!

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, The Scottish Twins

Jaslandia wrote:Lex Caledonia Nuremgard The Scottish Twins

https://youtu.be/1Yq-CCO2yJY

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YAAAAAAAS BIG ROBERT HIMSELF, BRB BUYING CIV6

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, The Scottish Twins

Lex Caledonia wrote:YAAAAAAAS BIG ROBERT HIMSELF, BRB BUYING CIV6

It's part of Civ 6's first expansion pack, 'Rise and Fall' (due to be released February 8th), if you're interested.

Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia, The Scottish Twins

Jaslandia wrote:It's part of Civ 6's first expansion pack, 'Rise and Fall' (due to be released February 8th), if you're interested.

Very excited and pleased to see Scotland

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia, The Scottish Twins

Screw it. I'm sick of waiting on democracy to come to New Salvatore. It's going to fully embrace its fascism and maintain dictatorship.

Jaslandia, Mercunova, Spanelsko

Jaslandia wrote:Lex Caledonia Nuremgard The Scottish Twins

https://youtu.be/1Yq-CCO2yJY

Donald: Alba gu bràth! Scotland forever!

Douglas: Thocht, if Ah had tae nitpick, Ah woods hae preferred tae see William Wallace over Robert th' Bruce. An' golf courses as our unique improvement? 'At seems a bit stereotypical if ye ask me.

Donald: Fa cares about 'at, Dougie? Let's jist enjoy Scotland gettin' th' recognition it rightly deserves!

Douglas: Aye, ye hae a point thaur.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia

So

As it turns out

Looking up performances of songs you've sung in Chorus in years gone past is a bad idea if you aren't looking for painful levels of nostalgia.

Furthermore, when they're songs like "Prayer of the Children", "Banks of Doon", "Omnia Sol" and "My gentle harp" it only gets worse ;-;

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:Screw it. I'm sick of waiting on democracy to come to New Salvatore. It's going to fully embrace its fascism and maintain dictatorship.

And this is how freedom dies.....

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova

The Talking Point

Huge explosions in the sky are a daily occurrence in the cities.

Even NS knows how bad my nation is :p

Jaslandia

Is there a rule that you cant have you puppet nation with your main nation in this region? (Spanelsko here)

Also i just made this nation and it already has managed to beat Spanelsko in Social Conservatism (1 in the region and 1% world wide)

And also somehow this is my most fu*** up dictatorship i ever made...... Both Political Freedom and Rights are outlawed ( Rights 2/100)

(PF 0/100) WTF?

Jaslandia, Spanelsko

Brotherhood Of Atheist Ufir wrote:Is there a rule that you cant have you puppet nation with your main nation in this region? (Spanelsko here)

Also i just made this nation and it already has managed to beat Spanelsko in Social Conservatism (1 in the region and 1% world wide)

And also somehow this is my most fu*** up dictatorship i ever made...... Both Political Freedom and Rights are outlawed ( Rights 2/100)

(PF 0/100) WTF?

No, as said before it's only illegal to have two accountsthat both go for citizenship, and to involve the second account in RP.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Brotherhood Of Atheist Ufir

Kalaron wrote:No, as said before it's only illegal to have two accountsthat both go for citizenship, and to involve the second account in RP.

Ok, thank you for explanation. But does that also mean that i cant use this brotherhood for future events? By this i mean not use them in the RP but possibly use them as rebel groups/insurgents/freedom fighters in case i would want to change the dictatorial regime to something closer to a democracy. (still remaining with my main account but changing the flag to the one of the brotherhood of UFIR.)

Of course mentioning them only from the perspective of UFIR itself (Spanelsko) or is that also banned?

Also that doesnt mean that i plan on changing the government of UFIR, i love dictatorships (not in real life) but i am just asking in the case to know if i have my options open or not for future.

Brotherhood Of Atheist Ufir wrote:Ok, thank you for explanation. But does that also mean that i cant use this brotherhood for future events? By this i mean not use them in the RP but possibly use them as rebel groups/insurgents/freedom fighters in case i would want to change the dictatorial regime to something closer to a democracy. (still remaining with my main account but changing the flag to the one of the brotherhood of UFIR.)

Of course mentioning them only from the perspective of UFIR itself (Spanelsko) or is that also banned?

From a lore perspective they can. They aren't allowed to *RP* however. If you wish to model an insurgency however, why not do as Tex does?

Brotherhood Of Atheist Ufir

Kalaron wrote:From a lore perspective they can. They aren't allowed to *RP* however. If you wish to model an insurgency however, why not do as Tex does?

Thats more or less what i meant, btw who is Tex?

Aw I’m really stuck on Fallout, I don’t know whether I should join the Institute or Brotherhood, any ideas guys?

Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

Brotherhood Of Atheist Ufir wrote:Thats more or less what i meant, btw who is Tex?

UCT, Pirate Kingdoms.

Yukona wrote:Aw I’m really stuck on Fallout, I don’t know whether I should join the Institute or Brotherhood, any ideas guys?

Both are toxic AF. If not the Minute-Men, I'd recommend the BOS if only to murder the bitches underground. Then shoot every BOS member in the Commonwealth.

Penguania And Antarctica

Yukona wrote:Aw I’m really stuck on Fallout, I don’t know whether I should join the Institute or Brotherhood, any ideas guys?

A D

V I C T O R I A M

Kalaron wrote:No, as said before it's only illegal to have two accountsthat both go for citizenship, and to involve the second account in RP.

I mean, it's not illegal to attempt to RP with a second nation. No one is going to prosecute you for it. RP law =/= Regional law.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

QUICK question, does anyone here know a communist region?

Also sorry for bothering you all.

Reason i ask is because all recruitment telegrams are either from fascist nations or holy empires....

And yes i will tell Tserra about the 3 new puppets (i think it was tserra that updates that stuff in the citizenship i will look later)

Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia

United Communists Of Ufir wrote:QUICK question, does anyone here know a communist region?

Also sorry for bothering you all.

Reason i ask is because all recruitment telegrams are either from fascist nations or holy empires....

And yes i will tell Tserra about the 3 new puppets (i think it was tserra that updates that stuff in the citizenship i will look later)

Nope, Lex Caledonia.

United Communists Of Ufir wrote:QUICK question, does anyone here know a communist region?

Also sorry for bothering you all.

Reason i ask is because all recruitment telegrams are either from fascist nations or holy empires....

And yes i will tell Tserra about the 3 new puppets (i think it was tserra that updates that stuff in the citizenship i will look later)

That would be me, telegram me your puppets and I'll get it sorted for you.

Jaslandia, United Communists Of Ufir

Lex Caledonia wrote:That would be me, telegram me your puppets and I'll get it sorted for you.

oh ok, thank you, i will send you a telegram once i finish the forth nation.

Lex Caledonia wrote:That would be me, telegram me your puppets and I'll get it sorted for you.

That moment you check the roster and realize only one puppet's there :p

ok all finished, Lex prepare for a great telegram.

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:That moment you check the roster and realize only one puppet's there :p

Have you got more puppets? Send them to me in a telegram and I'll get them marked down for you too.

Jaslandia

Lex Caledonia wrote:Have you got more puppets? Send them to me in a telegram and I'll get them marked down for you too.

danke

Likewise, if anyone has any undeclared puppets, send me a telegram with their name(s) and I'll get it on the roster under your nation.

According to the AfD in Germany climate change is caused by mass migration. An average person living in Europe has a worse carbon food print than a person living in Africa. So their argumentation is that the influx of people coming to Europe and living here cause problems for the climate. Their solution: stop migration and bring those who came here back to where they have come from.

Weird world we are living in. Sad. :/

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Lex Caledonia, Cesorion

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:According to the AfD in Germany climate change is caused by mass migration. An average person living in Europe has a worse carbon food print than a person living in Africa. So their argumentation is that the influx of people coming to Europe and living here cause problems for the climate. Their solution: stop migration and bring those who came here back to where they have come from.

Weird world we are living in. Sad. :/

Right-wingers are not renowned for their intelligence.

Axeldonia, Minnesota Dakota

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:According to the AfD in Germany climate change is caused by mass migration. An average person living in Europe has a worse carbon food print than a person living in Africa. So their argumentation is that the influx of people coming to Europe and living here cause problems for the climate. Their solution: stop migration and bring those who came here back to where they have come from.

Weird world we are living in. Sad. :/

Good lord. They'll blame anything on refugees, won't they? I wouldn't be surprised if they blamed refugees for lightning strikes.

Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:Good lord. They'll blame anything on refugees, won't they? I wouldn't be surprised if they blamed refugees for lightning strikes.

Nah. Don't be silly. Everyone knows that lightning strikes are the wrath of God for letting in all those infidels/heathens. :P /jk

Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:Right-wingers are not renowned for their intelligence.

Hey! Far-right wingers. Big difference

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia, Brotherhood Of Atheist Ufir

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Nah. Don't be silly. Everyone knows that lightning strikes are the wrath of God for letting in all those infidels/heathens. :P /jk

You laugh, but there have actually been people (at least in America) who've expressed similar statements, namely by stating that hurricanes/terrorist attacks/etc. are the result of America tolerating gay marriage/abortion/etc. How these people are able to live with such twisted logic is beyond me.

https://www.snopes.com/rumors/falwell.asp

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ann-coulter-hurricane-harvey_us_59a59bc2e4b084581a139315

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/did-lesbians-cause-hurricanes-irma-and-harvey-god-knows/2017/09/08/638efbca-94bf-11e7-89fa-bb822a46da5b_story.html?utm_term=.6f47d48e7d1f

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/gay-people-hurricane-harvey-blame-christian-leaders-texas-flooding-homosexuals-lgbt-a7933026.html

Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:You laugh, but there have actually been people (at least in America) who've expressed similar statements, namely by stating that hurricanes/terrorist attacks/etc. are the result of America tolerating gay marriage/abortion/etc. How these people are able to live with such twisted logic is beyond me.

https://www.snopes.com/rumors/falwell.asp

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ann-coulter-hurricane-harvey_us_59a59bc2e4b084581a139315

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/did-lesbians-cause-hurricanes-irma-and-harvey-god-knows/2017/09/08/638efbca-94bf-11e7-89fa-bb822a46da5b_story.html?utm_term=.6f47d48e7d1f

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/gay-people-hurricane-harvey-blame-christian-leaders-texas-flooding-homosexuals-lgbt-a7933026.html

You have some really odd people over there I must say.

Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:Right-wingers are not renowned for their intelligence.

Same could be said about Marxists/other commies and other far left idiots (i mention only FAR left moderate left is OK)

Cesorion

Brotherhood Of Atheist Ufir wrote:Same could be said about Marxists/other commies and other far left idiots (i mention only FAR left moderate left is OK)

At least you clarified...

And yeah, it could

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:You have some really odd people over there I must say.

No kidding. Normally I'd say something like "Every country has some nuts", but when it comes to religious/evangelical nuts, America is pretty much alone (at least among developed countries).

Brotherhood Of Atheist Ufir wrote:Same could be said about Marxists/other commies and other far left idiots (i mention only FAR left moderate left is OK)

Sure, but if nothing else, I've never seen a Marxist/communist blame hurricanes or other natural disasters on capitalism (though some of them will blame capitalism for everything else).

Nuremgard, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia, Cesorion, United Communists Of Ufir

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Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:Sure, but if nothing else, I've never seen a Marxist/communist blame hurricanes or other natural disasters on capitalism (though some of them will blame capitalism for everything else).

Cant deny that, btw does the right have anything like the Antifa? (asking about them because as mentioned before by me Antifa are idiots and idiots make more idiots be it on the right or left wing)

Minnesota Dakota wrote:Please Vote.

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Jaslandia

United Communists Of Ufir wrote:Cant deny that, btw does the right have anything like the Antifa? (asking about them because as mentioned before by me Antifa are idiots and idiots make more idiots be it on the right or left wing)

None that I can think of, at least in America. I suppose the closest thing would be the neo-Nazi a**holes like the ones at Charlottesville, but those kind of incidents don't seem to happen as much as Antifa-related incidents.

Holy Inquisition Of Ufir

Cesorion wrote:Hey! Far-right wingers. Big difference

Brotherhood Of Atheist Ufir wrote:Same could be said about Marxists/other commies and other far left idiots (i mention only FAR left moderate left is OK)

Perhaps but most of the idiocy these days comes from the right since it's them that seems to be on the ascendant right now.

Axeldonia

Jaslandia wrote:None that I can think of, at least in America. I suppose the closest thing would be the neo-Nazi a**holes like the ones at Charlottesville, but those kind of incidents don't seem to happen as much as Antifa-related incidents.

World is weird.....

Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:Perhaps but most of the idiocy these days comes from the right since it's them that seems to be on the ascendant right now.

Still, there is a difference between right and far-right

Jaslandia, Spanelsko

hmmm, which would anyone of you consider as the better option? Centrist, Left Wing or the Right Wing? (combination is also an option)

Cesorion wrote:Still, there is a difference between right and far-right

There is but I don't have a very high opinion of right wingers either given the kind of policies they vote for here.

Spanelsko

Nuremgard wrote:There is but I don't have a very high opinion of right wingers either given the kind of policies they vote for here.

Personally i think that it goes both ways :p

(in case someone doesnt understand what i mean, from what i have seen the left wing sees the right wing badly and same for the right wing seeing the left wing badly)

Spanelsko wrote:hmmm, which would anyone of you consider as the better option? Centrist, Left Wing or the Right Wing? (combination is also an option)

Centre-right

Nuremgard wrote:There is but I don't have a very high opinion of right wingers either given the kind of policies they vote for here.

I don't hold the left in high esteem either, but I don't confuse far left with moderate centre-leftists

Brotherhood Of Atheist Ufir

Cesorion wrote:Centre-right

I don't hold the left in high esteem either, but I don't confuse far left with moderate centre-leftists

Right. But when supposed "moderate rightists" in this country are voting for a party that is literally killing people with its policies, I find it hard to respect their "political values"

Nuremgard wrote:Right. But when supposed "moderate rightists" in this country are voting for a party that is literally killing people with its policies, I find it hard to respect their "political values"

I also find it hard (heck, impossible) to respect the current political left here

Brotherhood Of Atheist Ufir

Cesorion wrote:I also find it hard (heck, impossible) to respect the current political left here

But is the left in your country implementing policies that are making people destitute or forcing them into suicide? I have personal experience with the policy changes here, and it was a very negative one. So I know what I'm talking about. It's nowhere near as extreme as pushing me into poverty or making me suicidal. But it was the first time Conservative policy has directed affected me, and it was extremely distressing.

Nuremgard wrote:But is the left in your country implementing policies that are making people destitute or forcing them into suicide? I have personal experience with the policy changes here, and it was a very negative one. So I know what I'm talking about. It's nowhere near as extreme as pushing me into poverty or making me suicidal. But it was the first time Conservative policy has directed affected me, and it was extremely distressing.

I can tell you that many people have been pushed to poverty, and made suicidal. It's literally quite hard to remain good with all those policies here. Unless of course you have a friend in government

Cesorion wrote:I can tell you that many people have been pushed to poverty, and made suicidal. It's literally quite hard to remain good with all those policies here. Unless of course you have a friend in government

Well, that's why I find myself practically hating Tory voters. I cant respect someone who votes for such vile policies. Yet I'm called "nasty" because I call them bad names. Yet they vote for policies that make people's lives a misery but get to play the victim because some people call them bad words? The pearl clutching is pathetic.

Axeldonia

Cesorion wrote:Still, there is a difference between right and far-right

One is a poor-hating, wealth-stockpiling, heartless ideology that considers national success as being purely based on economic success.

The other is all that but they also kill minorities

Nuremgard, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Brotherhood Of Atheist Ufir

Unfallious wrote:One is a poor-hating, wealth-stockpiling, heartless ideology that considers national success as being purely based on economic success.

The other is all that but they also kill minorities

You get the difference

Penguania And Antarctica, Brotherhood Of Atheist Ufir

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Today is January 25 and today are:

- A Room Of One’s Own Day

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- Burns Night (Scotland and Scottish community)

- Dydd Santes Dwynwen (Wales)

- National Florida Day (United States)

- National Nutrition Day (Indonesia)

- National Irish Coffee Day (United States)

- National Opposite Day (United States)

- National Police Day (Egypt)

- National Voters' Day (India)

- Revolution Day 2011 (Egypt)

- Russian Students Day (Russia)

- Tatiana Day (Russia, Ukraine)

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- AD41 – After a night of negotiation, Claudius is accepted as Roman Emperor by the Senate.

- 0750 – In the Battle of the Zab, the Abbasid rebels defeat the Umayyad Caliphate, leading to overthrow of the dynasty.

- 1348 – A strong earthquake strikes the South Alpine region of Friuli in modern Italy, causing considerable damage to buildings as far away as Rome.

- 1494 – Alfonso II becomes king of Naples.

- 1515 – Coronation of Francis I of France.

- 1533 – Henry VIII of England secretly marries his second wife Anne Boleyn.

- 1554 – Founding of São Paulo city, Brazil.

- 1573 – Battle of Mikatagahara: In Japan, Takeda Shingen defeats Tokugawa Ieyasu.

- 1575 – Luanda, the capital of Angola, is founded by the Portuguese navigator Paulo Dias de Novais.

- 1704 – The Battle of Ayubale results in the destruction of most of the Spanish missions in Florida.

- 1755 – Moscow University is established on Tatiana Day.

- 1765 – Port Egmont, the first British settlement in the Falkland Islands at the southern tip of South America, is founded.

- 1787 – Shays's Rebellion: The rebellion's largest confrontation, outside the Springfield Armory, results in the killing of four rebels and the wounding of twenty.

- 1791 – The British Parliament passes the Constitutional Act of 1791 and splits the old Province of Quebec into Upper Canada and Lower Canada.

- 1792 – The London Corresponding Society is founded.

- 1858 – The Wedding March by Felix Mendelssohn is played at the marriage of Queen Victoria's daughter, Victoria, and Friedrich of Prussia, and becomes a popular wedding processional.

- 1879 – The Bulgarian National Bank is founded.

- 1881 – Thomas Edison and Alexander Graham Bell form the Oriental Telephone Company.

- 1890 – Nellie Bly completes her round-the-world journey in 72 days.

- 1909 – Richard Strauss's opera Elektra receives its debut performance at the Dresden State Opera.

- 1915 – Alexander Graham Bell inaugurates U.S. transcontinental telephone service, speaking from New York to Thomas Watson in San Francisco.

- 1918 – The Ukrainian People's Republic declares independence from Bolshevik Russia.

- 1924 – The 1924 Winter Olympics opens in Chamonix, in the French Alps, inaugurating the Winter Olympic Games.

- 1932 – Second Sino-Japanese War: The Chinese National Revolutionary Army begins the defense of Harbin.

- 1937 – The Guiding Light debuts on NBC radio from Chicago. In 1952 it moves to CBS television, where it remains until September 18, 2009.

- 1941 – Pope Pius XII elevates the Apostolic Vicariate of the Hawaiian Islands to the dignity of a diocese. It becomes the Roman Catholic Diocese of Honolulu.

- 1942 – World War II: Thailand declares war on the United States and United Kingdom.

- 1945 – World War II: The Battle of the Bulge ends.

- 1946 – The United Mine Workers rejoins the American Federation of Labor.

- 1946 – United Nations Security Council Resolution 1 relating to Military Staff Committee is adopted.

- 1947 – Thomas Goldsmith Jr. files a patent for a "Cathode Ray Tube Amusement Device", the first ever electronic game.

- 1949 – The first Emmy Awards are presented; the venue is the Hollywood Athletic Club.

- 1960 – The National Association of Broadcasters reacts to the "payola" scandal by threatening fines for any disc jockeys who accept money for playing particular records.

- 1961 – In Washington, D.C., President John F. Kennedy delivers the first live presidential television news conference.

- 1964 – Blue Ribbon Sports is founded by University of Oregon track and field athletes, which would later become Nike.

- 1969 – Brazilian Army captain Carlos Lamarca deserts in order to fight against the military dictatorship, taking with him ten machine guns and 63 rifles.

- 1971 – Charles Manson and three female "Family" members are found guilty of the 1969 Tate–LaBianca murders.

- 1971 – Idi Amin leads a coup deposing Milton Obote and becomes Uganda's president.

- 1979 – Pope John Paul II starts his first official papal visits outside Italy to The Bahamas, Dominican Republic, and Mexico.

- 1980 – Mother Teresa is honored with India's highest civilian award, the Bharat Ratna

- 1986 – The National Resistance Movement topples the government of Tito Okello in Uganda.

- 1993 – Five people are shot outside the CIA Headquarters in Langley, Virginia. Two are killed and three wounded.

- 1994 – The spacecraft Clementine by BMDO and NASA is launched.

- 1995 – The Norwegian rocket incident: Russia almost launches a nuclear attack after it mistakes Black Brant XII, a Norwegian research rocket, for a US Trident missile.

- 1996 – Billy Bailey becomes the last person to be hanged in the U.S.A.

- 1998 – During a historic visit to Cuba, Pope John Paul II demands political reforms and the release of political prisoners while condemning US attempts to isolate the country.

- 1998 – A suicide attack by the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam on Sri Lanka's Temple of the Tooth kills eight and injures 25 others.

- 1999 – A 6.0 Richter scale earthquake hits western Colombia killing at least 1,000.

- 2003 – Invasion of Iraq: A group of people leave London, England, for Baghdad, Iraq, to serve as human shields, intending to prevent the U.S.-led coalition troops from bombing certain locations.

- 2005 – A stampede at the Mandhradevi temple in Maharashtra, India kills at least 258.

- 2006 – Mexican professional wrestler Juana Barraza is arrested in connection with the serial killing of at least ten elderly women.

- 2011 – The first wave of the Egyptian revolution begins throughout the country, marked by street demonstrations, rallies, acts of civil disobedience, riots, labour strikes, and violent clashes.

- 2013 – At least 50 people are killed and 120 people are injured in a prison riot in Barquisimeto, Venezuela.

- 2015 – A clash in Mamasapano, Maguindanao in the Philippines killing 44 members of Special Action Force (SAF), at least 18 from the Moro Islamic Liberation Front and five from the Bangsamoro Islamic Freedom Fighters.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 750 – Leo IV the Khazar, Byzantine emperor

- 1627 – Robert Boyle, Irish-English chemist and physicist

- 1736 – Joseph-Louis Lagrange, Italian-French mathematician and astronomer

- 1759 – Robert Burns, Scottish poet and songwriter

- 1874 – W. Somerset Maugham, French-English author and playwright

- 1882 – Virginia Woolf, English novelist, essayist, short story writer, and critic

- 1886 – Wilhelm Furtwängler, German conductor and composer

- 1913 – Witold Lutosławski, Polish composer and conductor

- 1928 – Eduard Shevardnadze, Georgian general and politician, 2nd President of Georgia

- 1938 – Etta James, American singer

- 1931 – Dean Jones, American actor and singer

- 1933 – Corazon Aquino, Filipino politician, 11th President of the Philippines

- 1942 – Eusébio, Mozambican-Portuguese footballer

- 1981 – Alicia Keys, American singer-songwriter, pianist, and actress

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Jaslandia, Mercunova, Cesorion

Had a couple of interesting lectures today. One on the formation of the UK and the other on race in 19th century America.

Jaslandia

Spanelsko wrote:hmmm, which would anyone of you consider as the better option? Centrist, Left Wing or the Right Wing? (combination is also an option)

Centre-Left/Left, which ever part allows me to be a sound c*nt and treat folk well

Nuremgard, Brotherhood Of Atheist Ufir

Nuremgard wrote:Well, that's why I find myself practically hating Tory voters. I cant respect someone who votes for such vile policies. Yet I'm calling "nasty" because I call them bad names. Yet they vote for policies that make people's lives a misery but get to play the victim because some people call them bad words? The pearl clutching is pathetic.

Such a nasty woman.

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Such a nasty woman.

Woops. My grammar goes out the window when I get mad.

Penguania And Antarctica, Cesorion

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Such a nasty woman.

I've half a mind to suppress that

Vista Major wrote:I've half a mind to suppress that

Ohh well. I could say that for this ^^^

Cesorion wrote:Ohh well. I could say that for this ^^^

Do you support Greece staying in the EU and/or keeping the euro?

Spanelsko

Nuremgard wrote:Do you support Greece staying in the EU and/or keeping the euro?

Yep

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