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Region: The Confederacy of Free Nations
I fully understand your concern Peng, remember back in the ol' days I had my term as MoI, and I dealt with a troll or two for what I can remember. But I'm glad you have spoken up and had a peaceful debate with us! <3 you Peng.
Penguania And Antarctica
So, what happens if the vote ties lol
Penguania And Antarctica
We keep the old one.
I did spoke up? When was that? :)
(I honestly can't remember.)
The United Providences Of Perland
^^
Penguania And Antarctica
I was referring to when did I spoke up about trolls ? :)
The United Providences Of Perland
O, I never said directly you did e.e I was saying I did.
Penguania And Antarctica
There is no way, no way, not even in hell, will we be keeping that trash of a constitution we have now.
If it doesnt switch tides, I'll be changing my vote.
Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland
Oh okay. :)
Vista Major
I switched my vote to abstain for now. That way I don't hurt anybody's feelings. What I want doesn't matter.
Vista Major, Andromitus
We could always pull a UK and have no set Constitution if we really need to. Just another referendum ought to do it
Oelesa
But, my dear, what you want [I]does[/I]. That's why we're having this referendum in the first place.
Jaslandia, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica
"Two of these chefs are lying, and two are telling the truth. We will find out in this episode of Cooks vs Cons"- tv show host
"It's the guy from Denver. Can't trust men from Denver."- Le Fried
Oelesa
I really cannot stress how untrue that is, as I stated earlier, the whole point of a Democratic Referendum is to express what you want to happen!! :D
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica
But if you are losing and it's depressing you then I don't want to vote. Because I don't want you to get depressed.
Vista Major
Who am I to determine the fate of this community ?
Vista Major, Andromitus
As much as I would normally appreciate such a sacrifice, I can't stand by and abide by you stifling your voice for my feelings.
Do it for the region, if at all. Not for me.
Jaslandia, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica
I retract my abstention.
Jaslandia, Vista Major
Inarguably the most influential penguin who ever stepped foot on our RMB shores
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
And the only "penguin" to be correct.
And, by all means, you have every right to defend Vista's constitutional proposal. But, I want to reiterate what I said first and foremost: my focus of that message was to discuss what I saw as good in the proposal that I was supporting, not to condemn that which I believed was bad in the proposal I was not supporting.
Is this in reference to what is included in Unf's proposal? Because the Cabinet doesn't have veto power. They, as well as the people, have the power to overrule the Chancellor's veto. Cabinet is a protective force, not a vetoing one.
Having personally served as Chief Justice, I can say from experience that I believe the hierarchy seems unnecessary.
The three Justices would be elected concurrently, so an election would not be any longer for Unf's proposal than Vista's.
And you're free to have that opinion. But, if a constitution says that an administration should rule for x amount of days or months, it should be something that it is strictly abided by. However, in these cases, it is often overshot. The contents of our constitution, whichever we choose, shouldn't be a matter of "well, we're pretty close..." Unf's proposal provides a means for making this more manageable and less likely to be overlooked.
Unf's very first article is a bill of rights. And I would argue that Vista's takes power from the citizenry writ large and gives it to the legislature. As I mentioned, citizens participate more widely in referendums (and by extension, elections) then they do government forum activities. To have the highest judicial officer elected by Parliament rather than the people writ large, you are actually decreasing the amount of people who are participating in our highest judicial officer's election. This is true even though every citizen is a member of Parliament; we simply have less participation in the legislature.
Jaslandia, Sulania, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland
Your a citizen of the Confederacy of Free Nations, you not only have a right to determine this communities fate, you have the only right to do so
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
Oi, people have likened me to this guy before though:
https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/batman/images/1/12/TBPenguin.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090213222829
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
I'll determine it, anything but the old constitution, ANYTHING.
Vista Major, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica
That's a bad penguin
Jaslandia, Vista Major
The SJ, nor any other elected office, [I]has[/I] to be elected on a forum through my constitution. Since all citizens are House members, Parliament is synonymous with Citizenry, and we can do elections the old-fashioned TG way. If I recall, we usually do this when we didn't meet on Discord or the forums.
Penguania And Antarctica
Yeesh. Hopefully not on looks alone. That nose could take out an eye if not minded properly.
Jaslandia
Also, according to the citizenship roster, it doesn't look like we're deadlocked even if it currently shows 14-14.
Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland
Just wanted to say that I love you all. <3
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Kalaron, Tserra
Why ?
Vista Major
We'll just have to some more pushing, that's all
Love you dearly <3
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
There are still 30+ citizens who can vote, for one
Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland
Hell no. It was mainly because of the way I acted in elementary school with an umbrella. I would walk around with it as a sort of cane and even use it to open some doors.
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica
Soon's as good a time as any, lest we all burn in Portland hell
Epicz
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
Good evening my fellow cofnians!
Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica
Good evening. How are you doing?
Indeed, it looks like a few votes on each side are not WA, so I suspect the vote is not locked as well.
Penguania And Antarctica
Perfectly well Thankyou.
Penguania And Antarctica
WA isn't the metric for a vote counting. Those people -including me- simply hold WA on a puppet.
Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Estrinia
Quite correct.
The United Providences Of Perland
My puppet has WA status. My main, which is here, does not.
Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Estrinia
Yes, many people choose for their puppets to be in the World Assembly, and their main nations to be not.
Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland
New flag, New motto, New pretitle
Vista Major, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland
The United Providences Of Perland, Estrinia
Looks awesome.
The United Providences Of Perland, Estrinia
I've been demoted to a Principality!
The United Providences Of Perland
As I will be running for one of the three Supreme Court Justice positions should Unf's constitutional proposal pass, I wanted to make sure I make a "platform" publicly available. It's more a résumé of why I think I'm qualified rather than a platform because a Justice shouldn't really be a proactive vehicle for change, but a steadfast defender of the law.
The only proactive thing I can think of is my intention to introduce a Criminal Code to the legislature following the referendum. But this is more of a private citizen initiative. Feedback on it is welcome and encouraged!
Jaslandia, Oelesa, The United Providences Of Perland
Confederate Roleplay Overlord CTE'd: I'm guessing it should be revived
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland
*begins tracing pentagram on the floor while chanting*
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Pirate Kingdoms
Looks like Mau is gone again
Penguania And Antarctica
To Lat's new region. Interesting.
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
Good night, Good luck to Vista's constitution, good bye, good morning/afternoon/evening if your in a different time zone.
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland
That reminds me of my early days in this community. *sigh*
Goodnight dude. Pleasant dreams.
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Estrinia
Love the flag colors, they really pop out!
Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Estrinia
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=806694
Made the Battle of Nassau page more uniform and added additional info
Jaslandia, Vista Major, The United Providences Of Perland
I like the overall style of that page :)
I think I'll hit the pillow.
Have a nice remaining day and sweet dreams tonight.
Goodnight/ good morning/ good afternoon/ good day/ good evening. <3
Jaslandia, Vista Major, The United Providences Of Perland
Nighty night <3
Thank you! Night
Penguania And Antarctica, Estrinia
Good night, Peng!
Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica
Goodnight, Peng!
Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland
Aldwood approves. The flag makes your nation look somewhat Roman in appearance. I like that.
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Solla Ultima, Estrinia
[nation=short]Penguania and Antarctica[/nation]
Don't forget, the day after tomorrow is Canada's 150th birthday!
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland
All I remember is that Vista, is always right.
Vista Major
Well, I'll be darned
It's been a long while
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
That's because I needed to leave, and stay away back then.
Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica
Well, I won't say I haven't missed you. For a while back then I was rather worried
I might end up back over here, unfortunately not much happening in the UFN anymore.
Jaslandia, Vista Major
Well, many things are happening here. You shouldn't miss out
Jaslandia, Tserra
Hey, I remember Ono. You're missing all the caps that used to be in your name.
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica
I got tired of people only ever talking about that :p
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica
Haha. Sorry to bring it up right away, then. Welcome back-ish. Feel free to come back fulltime :P
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica
Glad to see that people are using that particular NS update
Penguania And Antarctica
I'm very likely to do so.
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica
Carjuangan president signs a new law that limits people from hunting, protesters protest infront of palace.
Russkov Soviet, Vista Major, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica
I will say though, I am definitely not going to change anything about my country for RP purposes, as I've had too many people try to force me too do so thus far.
Russkov Soviet, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica
protesters protesting, jeez. I thought they were throwing a tea party. ;p
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Carjuanga
Ono's statement has got me wondering. I know we have RP mods, but do they only have authority when someone who starts an RP and invites them to mod?
Penguania And Antarctica
Most of the protesters are hunters
Oelesa
Don't worry
If we can have a penguin nation, you can keep your dogs and wolves
Let em riot
Jaslandia, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton, Carjuanga
And a train nation, too!
Also, I don't think we've met [nation=short]Onocarcass[/nation]. My name's Percy, King of Percyton and the #6 green engine on the Island of Sodor. If you do come here, I hope you have a wonderful time!
Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica
Depends, generally speaking we keep things MT with the exception of specifically listed RPs set in FT/Fantasy/PMT/whathaveyou, as well as generally allowing for people to decide between what's OK and not OK.
As the Invasion RP between Andy and Maur was mutually agreed upon, I didn't want to intervene, Maur's sudden change of rules would have led to intervention if it didn't fall apart -Andy wanted a Mod to actually monitor the rules-
In short, Mods keep things MT but don't generally intervene in RP unless asked to by one of the parties (See the RP between Andy and TCADS for example, TCADs had jetpacks but neither asked mods to intervene).
That might be OK?
This is a questionable thing since the only two other nations that deviate from the norm don't really RP, and especially don't RP war.
Frankly, you might need to not have those insane things because -even if you treat them the exact same way as humans- you'll still end up with jarringly non-MT aspects similar to things we've already denied. It would be pretty irresponsible to give you special treatment, you know?
That said, you can keep it as a national factbook, it just becomes unrecognized by the RPs at that point.
Andromitus
It would be out of our jurisdiction.
Ah, okay. Thanks for the info.
I'm just trying to get my head around the idea of having elected RP mods. It seems like doing something without official impact on the regional map and/or predetermining your RP's own mods moves the RP out of the regional mod's jurisdiction.
It seems like the mods would actually become more interventionist if they were elected.
Wait what?
JETPACKS
Yeesh, Andy. Pay attention. :P
Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica
I must be a unique level of oblivious to miss that, where does it say that XD
Oh, I have no idea what Kal is referring to. I haven't RP'd since this awesome guy named Paul/Ehrereich graced our presence.
Those were also the days that Mark/Turina not only was active, but was Chancellor of the CFN. Those were the days. *reminisces*
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica
Our days of Caesar... How we miss thee
Jaslandia, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica
You know what happened to Caesar, right? I'm sure Mark would prefer to be likened to Augustus.
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica
why not, idk GOD
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica
Also, if anyone got metaphorically stabbed 47 times by Mark and/or Paul leaving the region, IT'S ME.
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica
Oh, hush, let's not get [I]hung[/I] up on such things.
Terrible, inaccurate pun. Idc
Jaslandia, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica
I remember Ehr! If only he could see us now...
Is this going to lead into another discussion about which person corresponds to which Roman figure? Because if so, I'd be all for that!
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=22051510
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=22051961
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=22052258
23 times, actually.
Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica
He'd be so disappointed.
#JasRomedia
Such details
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
a) I don't remember this at all.
b) I miss Merc, too! :(
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica
Yup, it's definitely not as stable as you thought
Jaslandia
Welp. Not surprising to anyone, my attempt to make a caesar wedge salad was pretty much a failure.
Jaslandia, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica
May I assume that your choice of food was inspired by our recent RMB conversation?
Penguania And Antarctica
You may, but you shouldn't. I only have caesar dressing because I only eat caesar salads. Because we didn't fight two World Wars to eat salads devoid of croutons, dammit!
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
You have dishonored your famiry.
Jaslandia, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica
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