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Can I still have my signature mindless robots that keep my employees in line?

The United Providences Of Perland

And for Christ's sake, Andy, could you help us keep up with your troop movement by providing an actual map? I can't tell whether you're flanking me, behind me, in front of me, or surrounding me.

The Royal Republic Of Kumania wrote:This is why Baxten's idea for formally creating RP rules is a good idea and why I support it being a committee of those interested being the ones to create the rules. If the committee decides I may not have futuristic technologies such starships or tools used to eradicate radiation, then I'll comply. But I'd much rather futuristic technologies be allowed for the highly scientific nations because it just makes sense imo.

In past RPs I've hardly ever used my starships because my nation is fairly peaceful so therefore there hasn't really been any reason to deploy my fleet of starships before. They have been used minimally against fascist insurgents, and they have been moved into attack position over nations of which Kumania had been nearing war with, but that's all the combat they have seen. A starship was used for a science experiment to study a black hole shortly after they were developed. This science experiment was to determine the effect a black hole had on an organism, and a polar bear was launched into a nearby black hole to test this. Currently the main purpose of the Kumanian starships is for defense, but hopefully they can be used more for science and exploration in the future when tensions across the world and nearby space ease.

The thing is, these "advanced nations" won't have much advanced about them because I'm trying to get MT tech and strictly MG tech to be the threshold of thechnologixal capability.

Jaslandia, Oelesa

Goodnight guys. Have a nice remaining day and pleasant dreams tonight. Love you all.

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Continental Commonwealths, The United Providences Of Perland

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Goodnight guys. Have a nice remaining day and pleasant dreams tonight. Love you all.

Goodnight, Peng!

Penguania And Antarctica

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:I think if you started an FT RP you'd be fine. But what I think they mean is, is that for the most part, most people here are MT, or slightly futuristic by say like the 2020s like my nation RPs as.

^This exactly.

Oelesa

Magnatronia wrote:And for Christ's sake, Andy, could you help us keep up with your troop movement by providing an actual map? I can't tell whether you're flanking me, behind me, in front of me, or surrounding me.

I can work on that

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:I think if you started an FT RP you'd be fine. But what I think they mean is, is that for the most part, most people here are MT, or slightly futuristic by say like the 2020s like my nation RPs as.

*wishing for a return of the Space Opera RP*

Jaslandia, Yukona

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:I think if you started an FT RP you'd be fine. But what I think they mean is, is that for the most part, most people here are MT, or slightly futuristic by say like the 2020s like my nation RPs as.

Actually, after further reading, it's not most nations that are MT; it's all nations that are.

Baxten wrote:Actually, after further reading, it's not most nations that are MT; it's all nations that are.

Pretty much.

Also, I'm beginning to consider building a deep sea complex built of habitats and using a mix of OTC and Nuclear energy for it.

Would be fun, if dangerous.

Male feminist abandons his surname to adopt his feminist wife's. Guess who's idea that was? My professor is such a cuck.

Yukona

Kalaron wrote:Pretty much.

Also, I'm beginning to consider building a deep sea complex built of habitats and using a mix of OTC and Nuclear energy for it.

Would be fun, if dangerous.

how would you fix the immense pressure problem, deep sea zones, no matter if what shape your base is, would crush you inside of it due to the pressure compressing the air within the habitat

Andromitus wrote:how would you fix the immense pressure problem, deep sea zones, no matter if what shape your base is, would crush you inside of it due to the pressure compressing the air within the habitat

Ain't planning on going too deep, using a nice dome shape, and studying whatever I can to find more about it.

I'll write more when I get...you know....an actual idea for it?

:P

Andromitus

Aldaur wrote:Male feminist abandons his surname to adopt his feminist wife's. Guess who's idea that was? My professor is such a cuck.

Thank God no woman has ever changed her last name at her husband's behest.

Merlinton, Jaslandia, Aldaur, Magnatronia

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Thank God no woman has ever changed her last name at her husband's behest.

Meh. I am pro-patriarchy. Now get back in the kitchen! :p

Aldaur wrote:Male feminist abandons his surname to adopt his feminist wife's. Guess who's idea that was? My professor is such a cuck.

Meh, whatever they want to do. Frankly, I'd be fine with taking my future husband's name or him taking mine, though it's not exactly comparable, whatever they want to do.

Jaslandia, Aldaur

Aldaur wrote:Meh. I am pro-patriarchy. Now get back in the kitchen! :p

A pro-patriarchy fascist? Odd combination. :P

And you should be so lucky to have me in the kitchen! Since my last stint of singledom I've been teaching myself to cook and daaaayyyum I'm pretty good at it!

Jaslandia, Baxten, Aldaur, Andromitus

Aldaur wrote:Male feminist abandons his surname to adopt his feminist wife's. Guess who's idea that was? My professor is such a cuck.

Who cares? If they're both happy with the arrangement, it's all good.

The Royal Republic Of Kumania

What the actual f*ck is a cuck

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Aldaur, Andromitus

Magnatronia wrote:What the actual f*ck is a cuck

"A cuckold is the husband of an adulterous wife. In evolutionary biology, the term is also applied to males who are unwittingly investing parental effort in offspring that are not genetically their own.[1]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuckold

That's the actual definition. By this point, I've seen it (mis-)used so often in so many different places, that I think 'cuck' is now just a catch-all term for people that the word's user doesn't like.

Aldaur

Jaslandia wrote:"A cuckold is the husband of an adulterous wife. In evolutionary biology, the term is also applied to males who are unwittingly investing parental effort in offspring that are not genetically their own.[1]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuckold

That's the actual definition. By this point, I've seen it (mis-)used so often in so many different places, that I think 'cuck' is now just a catch-all term for people that the word's user doesn't like.

It's a 4Chan term for "one who is less of a male, or subservient to another" in most of it's current uses.

So...stupid is the way to describe it.

Jaslandia

Kalaron wrote:It's a 4Chan term...

You could have just stopped right there; the rest could easily be inferred.

Also, I think even 4chan has forgotten what the term means at this point, considering I've seen that term used in contexts that have nothing to do with subservience or masculinity, and is just the user expressing rage at someone else.

Merlinton, The Royal Republic Of Kumania

Continental Commonwealths wrote:A pro-patriarchy fascist? Odd combination. :P

And you should be so lucky to have me in the kitchen! Since my last stint of singledom I've been teaching myself to cook and daaaayyyum I'm pretty good at it!

As someone who has been cooking since they were 4. B!tch can't touch this!

Jaslandia wrote:You could have just stopped right there; the rest could easily be inferred.

Also, I think even 4chan has forgotten what the term means at this point, considering I've seen that term used in contexts that have nothing to do with subservience or masculinity, and is just the user expressing rage at someone else.

Is the result of word degradation, to be expected when most people know of it by the connotation.

Jaslandia

Kalaron wrote:Is the result of word degradation, to be expected when most people know of it by the connotation.

I suppose so. I guess I'm both surprised and frustrated that such an old-fashioned and specific word is now being revived as one of the most overused buzzwords in certain Internet circles. I'm not much of a linguist, but even I can't help but sigh at this extreme example of word degradation.

Sorry if that was a bit of rant, but the use of the word 'cuck' outside its literal definition is just something that really grinds my gears.

https://youtu.be/Q685Ko2DHDs

Think it's time for Tea

Jaslandia, Andromitus, Percyton

Jaslandia wrote:I suppose so. I guess I'm both surprised and frustrated that such an old-fashioned and specific word is now being revived as one of the most overused buzzwords in certain Internet circles. I'm not much of a linguist, but even I can't help but sigh at this extreme example of word degradation.

Sorry if that was a bit of rant, but the use of the word 'cuck' outside its literal definition is just something that really grinds my gears.

https://youtu.be/Q685Ko2DHDs

Eh, happens with literally everything slightly older than the current lingo.

Be glad it doesn't happen with more words.

Jaslandia

So, with the new map, has anyone considered what the lore of the CoFN would be like? For the most part, I've retconned my nation to be the pitiful legacy of the economically powerful states within the Horn, but has there been an agreement about the history of neighboring countries or global conflicts?

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Percyton

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:So, with the new map, has anyone considered what the lore of the CoFN would be like? For the most part, I've retconned my nation to be the pitiful legacy of the economically powerful states within the Horn, but has there been an agreement about the history of neighboring countries or global conflicts?

Eh, id probably end up being the ISIS of the CoFN

Vista Major wrote:Think it's time for Tea

Tempting, but I'm worried it might be too late now. Does anyone else want to do it? Otherwise I can host it tomorrow.

Vista Major, Percyton

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:Eh, id probably end up being the ISIS of the CoFN

In the meantime:

One site security check.

One. Fµcking. Site. Security. Check.

Just removed about 1 1/2 hours retconning the main dispatch into what I intended.

Words cannot express the sheer rage I am suppressing into stress rashes due to this.

Jaslandia wrote:Tempting, but I'm worried it might be too late now. Does anyone else want to do it? Otherwise I can host it tomorrow.

Oh, me me me!

Jaslandia

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:Eh, id probably end up being the ISIS of the CoFN

Being Somalia: in other words, Hell

Jaslandia

Vista Major wrote:Oh, me me me!

Knock yourself out. Well, not literally, but you know what I mean.

Vista Major

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:In the meantime:

One site security check.

One. Fµcking. Site. Security. Check.

Just removed about 1 1/2 hours retconning the main dispatch into what I intended.

Words cannot express the sheer rage I am suppressing into stress rashes due to this.

Sry to hear that m8

HEYO, PARTY-PEOPLE, PARTY-POOPERS, AND PROSTITUTES FOR HIRE, IT'S NOW TEA TIME!

Them Rocking Drinks, Tho: Sweet Tea, Fruit Punch, Root Beer

Da Awesome Shnacks: Popcorn, Chips & Dip, Extra Cheese Pizza

Good Ol' Conversation Starters: Trump's Inauguration, North and South Korea, Canadian Bacon

Bonus Q: If you could go to war against any RL nation, assuming that you would win, who would it be, and why?

Other Thangs: Nonsensical Sentences, Random Links, Open Letters, etc.

Jaslandia

Jaslandia wrote:Knock yourself out. Well, not literally, but you know what I mean.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=23295448

Jaslandia

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:So, with the new map, has anyone considered what the lore of the CoFN would be like? For the most part, I've retconned my nation to be the pitiful legacy of the economically powerful states within the Horn, but has there been an agreement about the history of neighboring countries or global conflicts?

I'm just thinking that this is a good opportunity to spruce up my nation's history

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=499015#Hist

Continental Commonwealths wrote:A pro-patriarchy fascist? Odd combination. :P

And you should be so lucky to have me in the kitchen! Since my last stint of singledom I've been teaching myself to cook and daaaayyyum I'm pretty good at it!

As long as you can cook good indian food, we're good :p

Vista Major wrote:HEYO, PARTY-PEOPLE, PARTY-POOPERS, AND PROSTITUTES FOR HIRE, IT'S NOW TEA TIME!

Them Rocking Drinks, Tho: Sweet Tea, Fruit Punch, Root Beer

Da Awesome Shnacks: Popcorn, Chips & Dip, Extra Cheese Pizza

Good Ol' Conversation Starters: Trump's Inauguration, North and South Korea, Canadian Bacon

Bonus Q: If you could go to war against any RL nation, assuming that you would win, who would it be, and why?

Other Thangs: Nonsensical Sentences, Random Links, Open Letters, etc.

Ill take a root beer and popcorn, happy for trump inauguration, nk and sk is bomb with a very short fuse, Canadian bacon is just ham, sweden, cause I'm the dude who fvcks sh1t up, its what i do.

Aldaur

Vista Major wrote:HEYO, PARTY-PEOPLE, PARTY-POOPERS, AND PROSTITUTES FOR HIRE, IT'S NOW TEA TIME!

Them Rocking Drinks, Tho: Sweet Tea, Fruit Punch, Root Beer

Da Awesome Shnacks: Popcorn, Chips & Dip, Extra Cheese Pizza

Good Ol' Conversation Starters: Trump's Inauguration, North and South Korea, Canadian Bacon

Bonus Q: If you could go to war against any RL nation, assuming that you would win, who would it be, and why?

Other Thangs: Nonsensical Sentences, Random Links, Open Letters, etc.

Fruit punch and pizza

Trump: every day we draw further from God's embrace...

Koreas: if they were anthro'd, I'd just tell them to fµck to get the tension out of the system, though even that might end badly (who'd be the top or bottom, assuming that it's a random gender combination)

Canadian bacon: I honestly used to love that shît, especially Canadian bacon pizza from Domino's. Like all pork-related items other than pepperoni, though, I got sick of the stuff and can't eat it anymore.

War: Bosnia, that way the Croats, Bosnians, and Serbs would finally stop trying to kill each other, along with their position in the Mediterranean.

Link: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=36EGHwNPpUM (been listening to this for the past hour to lessen the anger from my factbook failure)

Continental Commonwealths

Vista Major wrote:HEYO, PARTY-PEOPLE, PARTY-POOPERS, AND PROSTITUTES FOR HIRE, IT'S NOW TEA TIME!

Them Rocking Drinks, Tho: Sweet Tea, Fruit Punch, Root Beer

Da Awesome Shnacks: Popcorn, Chips & Dip, Extra Cheese Pizza

Good Ol' Conversation Starters: Trump's Inauguration, North and South Korea, Canadian Bacon

Bonus Q: If you could go to war against any RL nation, assuming that you would win, who would it be, and why?

Other Thangs: Nonsensical Sentences, Random Links, Open Letters, etc.

I'll have pizza and sweet tea.

Trump inauguration: Not long forward to it. Not only does it mean that Trump will officially be our president (*gulp*), but I'm worried Trump will continue to act as un-presidential as possible, and use his opening speech to attack Rosie O'Donnell or something like that.

North and South Korea: North Korea is completely loony, but the recent scandal involving SK's seems to indicate that they have a few problems to work out too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_South_Korean_political_scandal

Canadian bacon: Never had it, but I've heard its just ham.

Bonus: Assuming my NS nation is doing the war, I'd say Sudan. It would punish them for their actions in Darfur, they don't attract as much international attention as places like Iraq and Syria (so I wouldn't get as much flak from other countries and the public), and Sudan has no nukes or powerful weapons (like North Korea or Russia).

Random links: https://youtu.be/xB-MkenBO1k

https://youtu.be/0mbGUld2w-s

I am willing to give Trump a chance, but I am not excited for it.

Jaslandia

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:So, with the new map, has anyone considered what the lore of the CoFN would be like? For the most part, I've retconned my nation to be the pitiful legacy of the economically powerful states within the Horn, but has there been an agreement about the history of neighboring countries or global conflicts?

Last I checked, I've decided to take the easy lore route and just be a corporation designing the items I have.

Next step is base building and contract meddling.

This will be good, I swear it.

Vista Major wrote:HEYO, PARTY-PEOPLE, PARTY-POOPERS, AND PROSTITUTES FOR HIRE, IT'S NOW TEA TIME!

Them Rocking Drinks, Tho: Sweet Tea, Fruit Punch, Root Beer

Da Awesome Shnacks: Popcorn, Chips & Dip, Extra Cheese Pizza

Good Ol' Conversation Starters: Trump's Inauguration, North and South Korea, Canadian Bacon

Bonus Q: If you could go to war against any RL nation, assuming that you would win, who would it be, and why?

Other Thangs: Nonsensical Sentences, Random Links, Open Letters, etc.

Drink & Snack: I'll be taking a sweet tea and a good old bag of popcorn my good man :P

As for Trump...well...both sides are pretty irrational, really. The people who refuse to play seem to misunderstand their role and are buying way too much into the idea that this will be a world ending event that they'll be damned to hell if they play in, or if their school does >.>

South Korea would bulldoze NK in a fight, such that it really is only fair to describe it as a forty year old fighting a five year old by swinging another, they got numbers but you have...everything else?

I'd probably fight Israel, and stick around to help if their neighbors start to fvck up.

Aldaur wrote:I am willing to give Trump a chance, but I am not excited for it.

I've been giving Trump a chance ever since a day or two after Election Day, and so far, I've been pretty disappointed with what I see. The campaign didn't change him, getting the nomination didn't change him, the convention didn't change him, winning the election didn't change him, so I don't expect him to act very differently once he says the oath of office.

Aldaur, Continental Commonwealths

Jaslandia wrote:I've been giving Trump a chance ever since a day or two after Election Day, and so far, I've been pretty disappointed with what I see. The campaign didn't change him, getting the nomination didn't change him, the convention didn't change him, winning the election didn't change him, so I don't expect him to act very differently once he says the oath of office.

I'm not talking about how he acts, but I am willing to give what he does a chance. He has been doing a good job keeping from companies imo. He has done a lot more than most other President-Elects. I also want him to build the wall :p

Aldaur wrote:I'm not talking about how he acts, but I am willing to give what he does a chance. He has been doing a good job keeping from companies imo. He has done a lot more than most other President-Elects. I also want him to build the wall :p

I don't know why, but I feel that wall will be just like the Great Wall of China: failure.

Vista Major wrote:HEYO, PARTY-PEOPLE, PARTY-POOPERS, AND PROSTITUTES FOR HIRE, IT'S NOW TEA TIME!

Them Rocking Drinks, Tho: Sweet Tea, Fruit Punch, Root Beer

Da Awesome Shnacks: Popcorn, Chips & Dip, Extra Cheese Pizza

Good Ol' Conversation Starters: Trump's Inauguration, North and South Korea, Canadian Bacon

Bonus Q: If you could go to war against any RL nation, assuming that you would win, who would it be, and why?

Other Thangs: Nonsensical Sentences, Random Links, Open Letters, etc.

I'll have a root beer and a pizza , and when you turn around i'll steel a popcorn :P

As long as we don't burn in atomic fire and he's not elected AGAIN, we'll survive, he'll push us back, but time has proven that no man, no matter how orange, can stop the steady march of social progress. North and South korea, down with the dictatorship, hail a united korea. Canadian Bacon, the real Canada of Bacons

I would perform a major invasion of Australia, all hail the new pacific empire!

nonsensical sentence ... hmmm ... Blue is greener than purple for sure...

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:I don't know why, but I feel that wall will be just like the Great Wall of China: failure.

The great wall of China was used to hold off an army of soldiers....not immigrants lol Any reinforcement of security helps.

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:I don't know why, but I feel that wall will be just like the Great Wall of China: failure.

Only when the mongols come.

Aldaur wrote:The great wall of China was used to hold off an army of soldiers....not immigrants lol Any reinforcement of security helps.

I mean, in a way?

We can do it more cheaply than blocking the whole thing though, and god forbid someone just....blow a whole in it?

Aldaur

Aldaur wrote:I'm not talking about how he acts, but I am willing to give what he does a chance. He has been doing a good job keeping from companies imo. He has done a lot more than most other President-Elects. I also want him to build the wall :p

Even if you just count his actions, his Cabinet appointments are certainly 'actions', and I'm not impressed with those either.

And as I and many others have said before, the idea of a border wall is completely stupid.

https://youtu.be/vU8dCYocuyI

https://youtu.be/K_P9PR5ckFk

Aldaur

Aldaur wrote:The great wall of China was used to hold off an army of soldiers....not immigrants lol Any reinforcement of security helps.

You DO know that the large majority of undocumented immigrants come here via plane right? and as many members of the left and right have said, a 30 foot wall is just gonna make a market for 31 foot ladders. and maybe a rope :P

Heck, we already have a 30 foot steel fence, and not like a chain link, this fuducker is solid steel, and a couple of idiots, from the US side mind you, just dug a tunnel under it XD

Jaslandia, Aldaur

Kalaron wrote:Only when the mongols come.

I mean, in a way?

We can do it more cheaply than blocking the whole thing though, and god forbid someone just....blow a whole in it?

There are certainly better ways such as high tech surveillance ay the border, ending sanctuary cities, fining companies that hire illegals, greatly reduce worker visas and hire a private company to find, investigate and deport illegals. However, a wall is better than a fence. I approve.

Jaslandia wrote:Even if you just count his actions, his Cabinet appointments are certainly 'actions', and I'm not impressed with those either.

And as I and many others have said before, the idea of a border wall is completely stupid.

https://youtu.be/vU8dCYocuyI

https://youtu.be/K_P9PR5ckFk

His cabinet could be better, I agree. I really only like Pence and Mattis. I still think the Trump administration can do well. If anything though, it is worth seeing those SJWs squirm.

Andromitus wrote:You DO know that the large majority of undocumented immigrants come here via plane right? and as many members of the left and right have said, a 30 foot wall is just gonna make a market for 31 foot ladders. and maybe a rope :P

Heck, we already have a 30 foot steel fence, and not like a chain link, this fuducker is solid steel, and a couple of idiots, from the US side mind you, just dug a tunnel under it XD

Still better than nothing. Also, if greatly reduce visas, they won't be able to fly here. Most illegals over stay their visa.

Aldaur wrote:1. There are certainly better ways such as high tech surveillance ay the border, ending sanctuary cities, fining companies that hire illegals, greatly reduce worker visas and hire a private company to find, investigate and deport illegals.

2. His cabinet could be better, I agree. I really only like Pence and Mattis. I still think the Trump administration can do well. If anything though, it is worth seeing those SJWs squirm.

1. If you want to stop illegal immigration, then fine, do that stuff; it'll do a lot more to stop illegal immigration than a wall, and would give us more bang-for-our-buck in terms of money.

2. Yeah, I don't think "SJWs squirm" justifies having an opponent of labor and the minimum wage as Labor Secretary, or having an oil executive with ties to Russia as Secretary of State, or having a climate change denier and opponent of the EPA as EPA Administrator.

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Aldaur

Aldaur wrote:The great wall of China was used to hold off an army of soldiers....not immigrants lol Any reinforcement of security helps.

Either way, it would be more logical to set up a security team to round up runners and coyotes, especially since construction will have to address any contingency plan by smugglers or physical flaws (maritime borders, whether it will replace the pre-existing fence system, installation in odd places such as in California, etc.)

Aldaur wrote:The great wall of China was used to hold off an army of soldiers....not immigrants lol Any reinforcement of security helps.

The Great Wall of China wasn't even effective at that: the goal wasn't to stop people from getting in per se (China's borders were much too long for that to work), but rather to make raids into Chinese territory less profitable, because not only would the raiders be weighed down by loot, but these raiders usually operated on horse, and horses can't really climb walls.

In addition, when the Manchus attacked China, the wall didn't work because the Manchus bribed the general commanding the wall to open the gates, thus leading the Manchu to invade and become the new dynasty of China. Under Manchu rule (also known as the Qing dynasty), China's borders extended further north and far beyond the wall, rending the Great Wall obsolete.

Jaslandia wrote:The Great Wall of China wasn't even effective at that: the goal wasn't to stop people from getting in per se (China's borders were much too long for that to work), but rather to make raids into Chinese territory less profitable, because not only would the raiders be weighed down by loot, but these raiders usually operated on horse, and horses can't really climb walls.

In addition, when the Manchus attacked China, the wall didn't work because the Manchus bribed the general commanding the wall to open the gates, thus leading the Manchu to invade and become the new dynasty of China. Under Manchu rule (also known as the Qing dynasty), China's borders extended further north and far beyond the wall, rending the Great Wall obsolete.

^see? The wall failed in it's purpose. My reference of it wasn't directed as immigrants being an army, but at the initial thought to deter movement. Even if the wall was built, some factor at random will inevitably cause failure in the system. While the wall envisioned for the Mexican border is less than 1/6 the length of the Great Wall, an endeavor of that magnitude is still going to require time and resources, all while still dealing with illegal immigrants and potential obstacles.

Jaslandia

Jaslandia wrote:The Great Wall of China wasn't even effective at that: the goal wasn't to stop people from getting in per se (China's borders were much too long for that to work), but rather to make raids into Chinese territory less profitable, because not only would the raiders be weighed down by loot, but these raiders usually operated on horse, and horses can't really climb walls.

In addition, when the Manchus attacked China, the wall didn't work because the Manchus bribed the general commanding the wall to open the gates, thus leading the Manchu to invade and become the new dynasty of China. Under Manchu rule (also known as the Qing dynasty), China's borders extended further north and far beyond the wall, rending the Great Wall obsolete.

I just said the great wall wasn't meant to stop invaders, which is why it failed.

Jaslandia wrote:1. If you want to stop illegal immigration, then fine, do that stuff; it'll do a lot more to stop illegal immigration than a wall, and would give us more bang-for-our-buck in terms of money.

2. Yeah, I don't think "SJWs squirm" justifies having an opponent of labor and the minimum wage as Labor Secretary, or having an oil executive with ties to Russia as Secretary of State, or having a climate change denier and opponent of the EPA as EPA Administrator.

I want there to be a path to citizenship for those who are here, end visas, fine companies and build the wall. That is what I want. Either way, the wall is happening.

We should abolish the minimum wage and adopt a guild system instead of labour unions. There is nothing wrong with Tillerson having done business with Russia. Trump wants to be allys with Russia, so having a business relationship with them is a plus. We should stop being so antagonistic of Russia. At least he will rein back the major excesses of the EPA. I support environmentalism, but the EPA is a waste of money and overly bureaucratic. We already have an enforcment mechanism for laws. It's called the police and military. We don't need giant bureaucracies to remind the government that made them, to enforce the laws they made. Government reminding itself is stupid.

Aldaur wrote:I just said the great wall wasn't meant to stop invaders, which is why it failed.

I want there to be a path to citizenship for those who are here, end visas, fine companies and build the wall. That is what I want. Either way, the wall is happening.

We should abolish the minimum wage and adopt a guild system instead of labour unions. There is nothing wrong with Tillerson having done business with Russia. Trump wants to be allys with Russia, so having a business relationship with them is a plus. We should stop being so antagonistic of Russia. At least he will rein back the major excesses of the EPA. I support environmentalism, but the EPA is a waste of money and overly bureaucratic. We already have an enforcment mechanism for laws. It's called the police and military. We don't need giant bureaucracies to remind the government that made them, to enforce the laws they made. Government reminding itself is stupid.

The police and military both have plenty of things to do already, so that's why we have agencies like the EPA to enforce and manage specific regulations. You can have gripes about how the EPA is run or structured, but its definitely needed.

And at the end of the day, Russia is a geopolitical adversary whose interests will inevitable conflict with ours. I'm concerned that if we get closer to Russia, then we'll have to abandon our allies in NATO and the EU and let Russia assert its iron fist over not just Eastern Europe, but possibly all of Europe.

Jaslandia wrote:The police and military both have plenty of things to do already, so that's why we have agencies like the EPA to enforce and manage specific regulations. You can have gripes about how the EPA is run or structured, but its definitely needed.

And at the end of the day, Russia is a geopolitical adversary whose interests will inevitable conflict with ours. I'm concerned that if we get closer to Russia, then we'll have to abandon our allies in NATO and the EU and let Russia assert its iron fist over not just Eastern Europe, but possibly all of Europe.

Fone, but the EPA needs to be reduced and get their grubbt hands out of land management disputes. They cost everyone time and money.

I doubt it. NATO is an alliance through treaty, which means Trump has no power over it. Only Congress does. We could move away from the EU, but I doubt it. I don't see why we can be friends with the EU and Russia. Maybe even get Russia to join NATO or the EU one day (not soon though). That would be the ultimate goal. We should work on turning enemies into friends. There is always a first step that must be taken.

Jaslandia, Yukona

Aldaur wrote:Male feminist abandons his surname to adopt his feminist wife's. Guess who's idea that was? My professor is such a cuck.

Now this is a guy I can get behind

Hello people.

[spoiler=Today are:]

Today are:

- Fête du Vodoun (Benin)

- Houseplant Appreciation Day

- Majority Rule Day (Bahamas)

- Margaret Thatcher Day (Falkland Islands)

- National Bittersweet Chocolate Day (United States)

- National Cut Your Energy Costs Day (United States)

- National Oysters Rockefeller Day (United States)

- National Save The Eagles Day (United States)

- Peculiar People Day

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 49 BC – Julius Caesar crosses the Rubicon, signalling the start of civil war.

- 69 – Lucius Calpurnius Piso Licinianus is appointed by Galba as deputy Roman Emperor.

- 236 – Pope Fabian succeeds Anterus to become the twentieth pope of Rome.

- 1072 – Robert Guiscard conquers Palermo.

- 1645 – Archbishop William Laud is beheaded at the Tower of London.

- 1776 – Thomas Paine publishes his pamphlet Common Sense.

- 1791 – The Siege of Dunlap's Station begins near Cincinnati during the Northwest Indian War.

- 1806 – Dutch settlers in Cape Town surrender to the British.

- 1861 – American Civil War: Florida secedes from the Union.

- 1870 – John D. Rockefeller incorporates Standard Oil.

- 1916 – World War I: In the Erzurum Offensive, Russia defeats the Ottoman Empire.

- 1920 – The Treaty of Versailles takes effect, officially ending World War I.

- 1922 – Arthur Griffith is elected President of the Dáil Éireann.

- 1927 – Fritz Lang's futuristic film Metropolis is released in Germany.

- 1941 – World War II: The Greek army captures Kleisoura.

- 1946 – The first General Assembly of the United Nations opens in London. Fifty-one nations are represented.

- 1946 – The United States Army Signal Corps successfully conducts Project Diana, bouncing radio waves off the Moon and receiving the reflected signals.

- 1962 – Apollo program: NASA announces plans to build the C-5 rocket launch vehicle, which became known as the Saturn V Moon rocket, which launched every Apollo Moon mission.

- 1971 – A by-poll is held in the Lebanese Chouf District.

- 1972 – Sheikh Mujibur Rahman returns to the newly independent Bangladesh as president after spending over nine months in prison in Pakistan.

- 1981 – Salvadoran Civil War: The FMLN launches its first major offensive, gaining control of most of Morazán and Chalatenango departments

- 1984 – Holy See–United States relations: The United States and Holy See (Vatican City) re-establish full diplomatic relations after almost 117 years, overturning the United States Congress's 1867 ban on public funding for such a diplomatic envoy.

- 1985 – Sandinista Daniel Ortega becomes president of Nicaragua and vows to continue the transformation to socialism and alliance with the Soviet Union and Cuba; American policy continues to support the Contras in their revolt against the Nicaraguan government.

- 1990 – Time Warner is formed by the merger of Time Inc. and Warner Communications.

- 2007 – A general strike begins in Guinea in an eventually successful attempt to get President Lansana Conté to resign.

- 2012 – A bombing in Khyber Agency, Pakistan, kills at least 30 people and 78 others injured.

- 2015 – A mass poisoning at a funeral in Mozambique involves beer that was deliberately contaminated with crocodile bile leaving at least 56 dead and nearly 200 hospitalized.

- 2015 – A traffic accident between an oil tanker truck and passenger coach en route to Shikarpur from Karachi on the Pakistan National Highway Link Road near Gulshan-e-Hadeed, Karachi, killing at least 62 people.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1769 – Michel Ney, French general

- 1797 – Annette von Droste-Hülshoff, German writer and composer

- 1908 – Paul Henreid, Italian-American actor and director

- 1916 – Sune Bergström, Swedish biochemist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1936 – Robert Woodrow Wilson, American physicist and astronomer, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1939 – Scott McKenzie, American singer and songwriter

- 1945 – Rod Stewart, English singer-songwriter

- 1947 – Peer Steinbrück, German politician, former German Minister of Finance

- 1949 – George Foreman, American boxer, actor, and businessman

- 1953 – Pat Benatar, American singer-songwriter

- 1960 – Brian Cowen, Irish lawyer and politician, 12th Taoiseach of Ireland

- 1987 – César Cielo, Brazilian swimmer

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Quote of the day

A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five.

- Groucho Marx -

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Jaslandia, Vista Major, Kalaron

Aldaur wrote:Fone, but the EPA needs to be reduced and get their grubbt hands out of land management disputes. They cost everyone time and money.

I doubt it. NATO is an alliance through treaty, which means Trump has no power over it. Only Congress does. We could move away from the EU, but I doubt it. I don't see why we can be friends with the EU and Russia. Maybe even get Russia to join NATO or the EU one day (not soon though). That would be the ultimate goal. We should work on turning enemies into friends. There is always a first step that must be taken.

Russia joining the EU and NATO would be against Russia's own interests (at least right now), and I see absolutely no reason why Putin would join the very organization that's blocking his plans of spreading Russian influence in Europe. Doing so would require masterful diplomacy, and I don't trust Trump nor Congress to provide that, and it still remains to be seen if Tillerson can provide that.

Continental Commonwealths

Just gonna say, Tim is pretty great.

Don't know, just wanted to say that :P

Kalaron wrote:Just gonna say, Tim is pretty great.

Don't know, just wanted to say that :P

You're pretty great yourself, hon.

Kalaron

Aldaur wrote:I'm not talking about how he acts, but I am willing to give what he does a chance. He has been doing a good job keeping from companies imo. He has done a lot more than most other President-Elects. I also want him to build the wall :p

Choke.

Continental Commonwealths

Hey,Baxten, you put my name in wrong in the cfn map

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:I'm so surprised that no one claimed Iran despite it having most of the worlds oil.

I mean, most of that Oil has apparently been nuked, so... :P

Kalaron wrote:I mean, most of that Oil has apparently been nuked, so... :P

Oil is underground how can it be nukes is would only suffer underground radiation.

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:Oil is underground how can it be nukes is would only suffer underground radiation.

Explosions and oil wells don't mix well.

Kalaron wrote:Explosions and oil wells don't mix well.

Not to mention deep underground.

Magnatronia wrote:Choke.

Good contribution to the discussion.

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:Not to mention deep underground.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_bunker_buster

CD, I don't mean this maliciously, but do you know about this stuff?

Kalaron wrote:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_bunker_buster

CD, I don't mean this maliciously, but do you know about this stuff?

Solla never sent NBB's at me, only nuclear ICBM's.

Greetings friends and new region-mates.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Penguania And Antarctica wrote::(

You alright, Peng?

Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Aldwood wrote:Greetings friends and new region-mates.

sup Ald

Aldwood wrote:Greetings friends and new region-mates.

Nice flag.

Jaslandia

Jaslandia wrote:You alright, Peng?

Nope.

Jaslandia, Percyton

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:Solla never sent NBB's at me, only nuclear ICBM's.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maneuverable_reentry_vehicle

This is what rides on top of a ICBM.

ICBM is just an acronym for a type of rocket (Intercontinental Ballistic Missile) , like "Assault Rifle" it just refers to a type of system.

There is no conceiveable reason that Solla wouldn't have sent those at you in a real nuclear war, because most nations have a few to at least try to kill the leaders of the nation.

Kalaron wrote:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maneuverable_reentry_vehicle

This is what rides on top of a ICBM.

ICBM is just an acronym for a type of rocket (Intercontinental Ballistic Missile) , like "Assault Rifle" it just refers to a type of system.

There is no conceiveable reason that Solla wouldn't have sent those at you in a real nuclear war, because most nations have a few to at least try to kill the leaders of the nation.

That's to help the missile to reach its target. ICBM's are able to be outfitted with different payloads, such as a nuclear payload.

Kalaron wrote:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maneuverable_reentry_vehicle

This is what rides on top of a ICBM.

ICBM is just an acronym for a type of rocket (Intercontinental Ballistic Missile) , like "Assault Rifle" it just refers to a type of system.

There is no conceiveable reason that Solla wouldn't have sent those at you in a real nuclear war, because most nations have a few to at least try to kill the leaders of the nation.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercontinental_ballistic_missile

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercontinental_ballistic_missile

OK, so I'm going to explain this simply because maybe we're having a simple disconnect here.

The missile -the ballistic missile- carries the payload which is comprised of a MIRV with warheads.

Now, assuming that we're taking your land and standardizing it within your recent history -and giving you the general concession of a bunker buster being needed- there is no reason for him not to have sent some over as the payload to that mass of missiles.

In short, the missile can carry an array of warheads and at least a few would be made in such a way to hit harden targets.

Freewire, Yukona

Andromitus wrote:For reference, the XN-1 laW System was declared fully operational aboard the USS Ponce in 2010, and the RP world [Based off the now official RP Map] is set in 2020, so it's reasonable to accept that a laWS could be operation on, per say, 2-3 major class ships.

I have to stress, however, that it would only be possible on a very very very VERY VERY [do you hear me screaming VERY] small scale. I cannot stress that MORE! A scale including like, 3-4 or 2-3 warships that are solely dedicated to the wartime use of this weapon. AND ONLY THEN, those ships REQUIRE on board high-yield fission reactors.

This concluding, an RP able nation, of high-ranking level of scientific advancement, arms development, nuclear infrastructure and mining. And, to be fair, the laWS and its now underdevelopment XN-2 system is only good against small aircraft. So sadly, it's not really worth it until further development in the real world proves it possible to have more variable use, at least in the case of weaponry

Everyone, I need to make some things clear

The year being set in 2020 is purely astheitic. I do that because I've built my timeline around it and that's when our first RP (in the original NGA) was set. No advancements have been made between the years. The "Well its 2020, anyways" argumnents are null, so please don't use them.

Jaslandia, Freewire

Baxten wrote:Everyone, I need to make some things clear

The year being set in 2020 is purely astheitic. I do that because I've built my timeline around it and that's when our first RP (in the original NGA) was set. No advancements have been made between the years. The "Well its 2020, anyways" argumnents are null, so please don't use them.

Aesthetic* Couldn't of butchered that word any worse.

Jaslandia, Andromitus

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Nope.

Sorry to hear that. Is there anything I can do?

Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Nope.

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/a/a7/Openingpenguins.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20110705011103

Hoping this might cheer you up

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

I've got a question for everyone (we may need a poll for the The United Providences Of Perland): What would you think of using NS stats for Scientific Advancement/Primitiveness, Economic Output (with some changes; the quadrillion dollars I have isn't realistic), and the Human Development Index?

Vista Major, The United Providences Of Perland

Aldwood wrote:Greetings friends and new region-mates.

Ald, do you want Eastern Russia. Unf says you and Bear would like the lore he's making (thinking Unf wants to reform the USSR)

Baxten wrote:I've got a question for everyone (we may need a poll for the The United Providences Of Perland): What would you think of using NS stats for Scientific Advancement/Primitiveness, Economic Output (with some changes; the quadrillion dollars I have isn't realistic), and the Human Development Index?

I would love to find a way to normalize my EO for my new 22k population. But using NS stats would totally be easier.

I'll totally make that poll for ya

Post self-deleted by Baxten.

Vista Major wrote:I would love to find a way to normalize my EO for my new 22k population. But using NS stats would totally be easier.

I'll make some formula that would make sense with the new populations (on the map). While bigger nations may be advantaged, smaller nations could still have larger economies if their NS EO is super high (like me)

Baxten wrote:I've got a question for everyone (we may need a poll for the The United Providences Of Perland): What would you think of using NS stats for Scientific Advancement/Primitiveness, Economic Output (with some changes; the quadrillion dollars I have isn't realistic), and the Human Development Index?

I agree with using NS stats for standard RPs (i.e. ones not having to do with Olympic gods, etc.) It makes sense that the way you've built your nation how it should be reflected in RPs.

If you have an uneducated, unarmed nation, and then say in RPs that you're the most advanced and powerful, it's kinda like -_-

Magnatronia

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I agree with using NS stats for standard RPs (i.e. ones not having to do with Olympic gods, etc.) It makes sense that the way you've built your nation how it should be reflected in RPs.

If you have an uneducated, unarmed nation, and then say in RPs that you're the most advanced and powerful, it's kinda like -_-

However, not all stats are really applicable. Like the ones I listed are, honest to God, the only ones that would really effect anything. The EO bunched up all of your industries, really (However, if we made a trade system, each industry would be pretty important)

Baxten wrote:However, not all stats are really applicable. Like the ones I listed are, honest to God, the only ones that would really effect anything. The EO bunched up all of your industries, really (However, if we made a trade system, each industry would be pretty important)

*looking at the Commission of Economics*

Baxten wrote:I've got a question for everyone (we may need a poll for the The United Providences Of Perland): What would you think of using NS stats for Scientific Advancement/Primitiveness, Economic Output (with some changes; the quadrillion dollars I have isn't realistic), and the Human Development Index?

n

o.

RP stats would be terrible that way, and they should instead be kept as we currently have them.

Just because someone answers issue in "X" way doesn't mean they should get Spaceships.

Baxten wrote:However, not all stats are really applicable. Like the ones I listed are, honest to God, the only ones that would really effect anything. The EO bunched up all of your industries, really (However, if we made a trade system, each industry would be pretty important)

I don't know- other things may be applicable. I don't want people to be able to invade me because I don't have a military without having to also consider that my population is armed to the teeth.

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