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Unfallious wrote:CC your sassiness is diverting vital resources away from the gov't in this dire state of emergency

*checks clipboard* Yep, you're over your daily sassiness allocation, [nation=short]Continental Commonwealths[/nation]. You're only allocated 2 Sass Units per day, and that comment alone was worth 5 Sass Units. I'm disappointed in your lack of patriotism, ContComm. One more incident like that, and we'll be forced to put you in State of Emergency Jail.

Vista Major, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, United Continental States

Clemodecralia wrote:Western Canada should secede

Yassss

The Vidnoye wrote:turns out its a no.

any ideas of where i could go on the map?

Dude what....I will riot on your behalf.

The Vidnoye, Penguania And Antarctica, United Continental States

Tserra wrote:Dude what....I will riot on your behalf.

yea sadly it was a firm no :)

The Vidnoye wrote:yea sadly it was a firm no :)

Well... If your leader is needing a place to stay while your population is awaiting their new homeland...I have some free choice 5-star hotels to choose from in my capital.

Jaslandia, The Vidnoye, Percyton

The Vidnoye wrote:turns out its a no.

any ideas of where i could go on the map?

Wait but claim 11 is unclaimed?

The Vidnoye

Um can someone explain what the telegram from The Federation of Baxten is about?

Jaslandia wrote:I'd assume the main rival of the Unfallious-Everestopia School of Public Policy and Mutual Animosity (UESPPMA) would be the Penguania-Percyton Academy of Super Cuteness and Innocence (PPASCI)?

I have a school named after me! Yay!!!

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Unfallious wrote:i demand my bloody medieval RP map

I'm gonna use the Supreme Court to sue ur ass

Penguania And Antarctica, United Continental States, South Hyder

I the president of Silsalia wish to address the citizens and residents of the confederacy of free nations.

I believe that this region suffers from numerous ills and crisises.

1. A declining population

2. Government red tap and beaurocracy that is like a labyrinth to behold and functions Sub optimally

3. Nations are treated as citizens instead of member states which is confusing to me as a leader of over 60 million.

4. Citizenship should be automatic after one joins the region in order to avoid red tape

I dutifully and respectfully suggest that perhaps we must launch a period of reforms in how we as a confederacy function. Not only would this improve conditions in the CFN but it would also allow us to look more enticing to potential member states.

I the president of Silsalia applied for membership at this confederacy (which has not yet gone through) because I believed in the principles of freedom and that together we could accomplish more than we could apart. What do you say fellow nations.

(This is just a list of ideas for reforms and is intended to be taken respectfully but in character)

Silsalia wrote:SNIP

Well, welcome to the Confederacy, upon becoming a citizen you actually also become a member of our Parliament.

Upon the acceptance of your application, please feel free to submit a formal proposal to our Speaker of the House and I am sure many of us would be willing to discuss your intended reforms.

I am happy to see the interest you are taking in our region and hope that you reach out to me with any questions.

Yukona, Cesorion

Silsalia wrote:Um can someone explain what the telegram from The Federation of Baxten is about?

Take a look at the region's population graph. It's been quite steadily declining for a while now. We need a way to make the region gain popularity.

Cesorion

Moldegaard wrote:Take a look at the region's population graph. It's been quite steadily declining for a while now. We need a way to make the region gain popularity.

Thank you for the information. That is a problem. I think from what I have seen people join the Confederation and then quickly leave. We should try and halt the decline will also increase recruitment. We need to have something that holds people to this Confederation.

Personally the fact that there is an active parliament and freedom made me want to stay. I joined like 4 other before staying here.

From what I've seen fewer players are playing this game so that decline might be hard to reverse quickly. But halting it might be easier.

Moldegaard

South Hyder wrote:Well, welcome to the Confederacy, upon becoming a citizen you actually also become a member of our Parliament.

Upon the acceptance of your application, please feel free to submit a formal proposal to our Speaker of the House and I am sure many of us would be willing to discuss your intended reforms.

I am happy to see the interest you are taking in our region and hope that you reach out to me with any questions.

Yeah, thats what I intended to do but I've been waiting for a while. Maybe it didn't go through properly though?

Silsalia wrote:Thank you for the information. That is a problem. I think from what I have seen people join the Confederation and then quickly leave. We should try and halt the decline will also increase recruitment. We need to have something that holds people to this Confederation.

Personally the fact that there is an active parliament and freedom made me want to stay. I joined like 4 other before staying here.

From what I've seen fewer players are playing this game so that decline might be hard to reverse quickly. But halting it might be easier.

I agree. I think the Regional Newsfeed is a great initiative, but it doesn't make others join the region, so we need more public advertising.

Cesorion

Moldegaard wrote:I agree. I think the Regional Newsfeed is a great initiative, but it doesn't make others join the region, so we need more public advertising.

Good point there, Mold! (I can use that, right?). If anyone has ideas on how to halt that decline, contact cabinet members immediately!

Moldegaard

Cesorion wrote:Good point there, Mold! (I can use that, right?). If anyone has ideas on how to halt that decline, contact cabinet members immediately!

I think if it was that easy, we'd be doing it in the jest place. The obvious solution is better recruitment and diplomatic relations.

Cesorion

Yukona wrote:I think if it was that easy, we'd be doing it in the jest place. The obvious solution is better recruitment and diplomatic relations.

Yeah, it is. But why not hear what they have to say. They might have some good ideas....

Cesorion wrote:Good point there, Mold! (I can use that, right?). If anyone has ideas on how to halt that decline, contact cabinet members immediately!

(Yes, you can!)

Cesorion

Correct me if I'm wrong. But didn't the CoFN have it's largest population when it was a featured region? I mean, that's how I found you guys and joined up.

Jaslandia, Yukona, Cesorion

What are y'all opinions on road tolls?

Lex Caledonia wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong. But didn't the CoFN have it's largest population when it was a featured region? I mean, that's how I found you guys and joined up.

You're not the only one..

Moldegaard wrote:What are y'all opinions on road tolls?

You gotta pay the trolls toll to get inside this boys hole

Axeldonia, Friedensreich, Pirate Kingdoms

Lex Caledonia wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong. But didn't the CoFN have it's largest population when it was a featured region? I mean, that's how I found you guys and joined up.

I actually simply just joined back when [nation=russian_fedration] was here. He and I were in TNI together and decided to jump ship and explore other regions to see what they did.

Because TNI was never made to be an RP region, y'see. We had an inactive founder that jealously held executive powers and started out as a huge raider region (first and only region to conquer the Rejected Realms!), then gradually declined once we moved into RP instead of gameplay.

Jaslandia, Andromitus, Talkative Friedensriech

Friedensreich wrote:I actually simply just joined back when [nation=russian_fedration] was here. He and I were in TNI together and decided to jump ship and explore other regions to see what they did.

Because TNI was never made to be an RP region, y'see. We had an inactive founder that jealously held executive powers and started out as a huge raider region (first and only region to conquer the Rejected Realms!), then gradually declined once we moved into RP instead of gameplay.

Good shít my dood

The Vidnoye, Andromitus

hallo

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Toot toot :)

Noot Noot

Unfallious wrote:hallo

'Allo

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Yukona wrote:I think if it was that easy, we'd be doing it in the jest place. The obvious solution is better recruitment and diplomatic relations.

This is a State of Emergency, Yuk- we don't have time for obvious solutions!

Jaslandia, Andromitus, Cesorion

Andromitus wrote:Noot Noot

'Allo

Unfallious wrote:hallo

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Toot toot :)

Eyooo

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Toot toot :)

Unfallious wrote:hallo

Andromitus wrote:Noot Noot

'Allo

Greetings, earthlings!

Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica

Unfallious wrote:hallo

What's up ?

Jaslandia, Cesorion

Continental Commonwealths wrote:This is a State of Emergency, Yuk- we don't have time for obvious solutions!

Quick, cover it up! I did not sleep with Monica Lewinsky!

Jaslandia, Andromitus

New post in the RNF.

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=421225&p=32392544#p32392544

Just got emailed instructions for my university induction. Sh!t is getting real.

Jaslandia, The Vidnoye, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia, Yukona, Cesorion

Nuremgard wrote:Just got emailed instructions for my university induction. Sh!t is getting real.

I got offered a scholarship from mine!

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica

Yukona wrote:I got offered a scholarship from mine!

Nice! Well done, you!

Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Nuremgard wrote:Just got emailed instructions for my university induction. Sh!t is getting real.

Speaking of which, you wanna know why student debt exists?

The fûcking textbooks and the online shít the lazy professors force you to use in lieu of actual quality teaching. I just had to pay 381$ for 2 textbooks and an access code to some online program while I could just pay 101$ for the 2 textbooks.

Basically here's what I had to pay versus what I wanted to pay:

What I wanted to pay.....

-20$, rental for German textbook off amazon

-80$, poli-sci looseleaf textbook (it was just published this year so my bookstore actually has a good price for once! It's 101$ on amazon, but since it's related to my major and my future career I want to keep it)

What I had to pay....

-265$, German textbook and iLrn access code for 24 months (like dafuq, after this semester I ain't going to touch the damn program anymore, so why pay for 2 years)

-60$ poli-sci looseleaf textbook rental

Nuremgard

Friedensreich wrote:Speaking of which, you wanna know why student debt exists?

The fûcking textbooks and the online shít the lazy professors force you to use in lieu of actual quality teaching. I just had to pay 381$ for 2 textbooks and an access code to some online program while I could just pay 101$ for the 2 textbooks.

Basically here's what I had to pay versus what I wanted to pay:

What I wanted to pay.....

-20$, rental for German textbook off amazon

-80$, poli-sci looseleaf textbook (it was just published this year so my bookstore actually has a good price for once! It's 101$ on amazon, but since it's related to my major and my future career I want to keep it)

What I had to pay....

-265$, German textbook and iLrn access code for 24 months (like dafuq, after this semester I ain't going to touch the damn program anymore, so why pay for 2 years)

-60$ poli-sci looseleaf textbook rental

It's no wonder students are always skint. :P

Friedensreich wrote:Speaking of which, you wanna know why student debt exists?

The fûcking textbooks and the online shít the lazy professors force you to use in lieu of actual quality teaching. I just had to pay 381$ for 2 textbooks and an access code to some online program while I could just pay 101$ for the 2 textbooks.

Basically here's what I had to pay versus what I wanted to pay:

What I wanted to pay.....

-20$, rental for German textbook off amazon

-80$, poli-sci looseleaf textbook (it was just published this year so my bookstore actually has a good price for once! It's 101$ on amazon, but since it's related to my major and my future career I want to keep it)

What I had to pay....

-265$, German textbook and iLrn access code for 24 months (like dafuq, after this semester I ain't going to touch the damn program anymore, so why pay for 2 years)

-60$ poli-sci looseleaf textbook rental

Good that books aren't that expenisve over here. :)

Jaslandia, Kalaron

Nuremgard wrote:It's no wonder students are always skint. :P

Almost 40% of my monthly student loan payment is interest. It kills me a little inside with every payment.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Almost 40% of my monthly student loan payment is interest. It kills me a little inside with every payment.

I wont need to pay back any of my student loads until I earn over a certain threshold.

[spoiler=Today is August 24 and today are:]

Today is August 24 and today are:

- Flag Day (Liberia)

- Independence Day or Den' Nezalezhnosti (Ukraine)

- International Strange Music Day

- National Burger Day (United Kingdom)

- National Maryland Day (United States)

- National Parks´ Day (Costa Rica)

- National Peach Pie Day (United States)

- National Waffle Day (United States)

- Nostalgia Night (Uruguay)

- Pluto Demoted Day

- Vesuvius Day

- William Wilberforce Day

- Willka Raymi (Cusco, Peru)

[/spoiler]

[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 49 BC – Julius Caesar's general Gaius Scribonius Curio is defeated in the Battle of the Bagradas (49 BC) by the Numidians under Publius Attius Varus and King Juba of Numidia. Curio commits suicide to avoid capture.

- 79 AD – Mount Vesuvius erupts. The cities of Pompeii, Herculaneum, and Stabiae are buried in volcanic ash (note: this traditional date has been challenged, and many scholars believe that the event occurred on October 24).

- 367 – Gratian, son of Roman Emperor Valentinian I, is named co-Augustus at the age of eight by his father .

- 394 – The Graffito of Esmet-Akhom, the latest known inscription in Egyptian hieroglyphs, was written.

- 410 – The Visigoths under king Alaric I begin to pillage Rome.

- 455 – The Vandals, led by king Genseric, begin to plunder Rome. Pope Leo I requests Genseric not destroy the ancient city or murder its citizens. He agrees and the gates of Rome are opened. However, the Vandals loot a great amount of treasure.

- 1185 – Sack of Thessalonica by the Normans.

- 1200 – King John of England, signer of the first Magna Carta, marries Isabella of Angoulême in Bordeaux Cathedral.

- 1215 – Pope Innocent III declares Magna Carta invalid.

- 1349 – Six thousand Jews are killed in Mainz after being blamed for the bubonic plague.[1]

- 1456 – The printing of the Gutenberg Bible is completed.

- 1482 – The town and castle of Berwick upon Tweed is captured from Scotland by an English army

- 1516 – The Ottoman Empire under Selim I defeats the Mamluk Sultanate and captures present-day Syria at the Battle of Marj Dabiq.

- 1561 – Willem of Orange marries duchess Anna of Saxony.

- 1608 – The first official English representative to India lands in Surat.

- 1662 – The Act of Uniformity requires England to accept the Book of Common Prayer.

- 1682 – William Penn receives the area that is now the state of Delaware, and adds it to his colony of Pennsylvania.

- 1690 – Job Charnock of the East India Company establishes a factory in Calcutta, an event formerly considered the founding of the city (in 2003 the Calcutta High Court ruled that the city's foundation date is unknown).

- 1781 – American Revolutionary War: A small force of Pennsylvania militia is ambushed and overwhelmed by an American Indian group, which forces George Rogers Clark to abandon his attempt to attack Detroit.

- 1812 – Peninsular War: A coalition of Spanish, British, and Portuguese forces succeed in lifting the two-and-a-half-year-long Siege of Cádiz.

- 1814 – British troops invade Washington, D.C. and during the Burning of Washington the White House, the Capitol and many other buildings are set ablaze.

- 1815 – The modern Constitution of the Netherlands is signed.

- 1816 – The Treaty of St. Louis is signed in St. Louis, Missouri.

- 1820 – Constitutionalist insurrection at Oporto, Portugal.

- 1821 – The Treaty of Córdoba is signed in Córdoba, now in Veracruz, Mexico, concluding the Mexican War of Independence from Spain.

- 1857 – The Panic of 1857 begins, setting off one of the most severe economic crises in United States history.

- 1870 – The Wolseley expedition reaches Manitoba to end the Red River Rebellion.

- 1875 – Captain Matthew Webb became the first person to swim the English Channel.

- 1891 – Thomas Edison patents the motion picture camera.

- 1898 – Count Muravyov, Foreign Minister of Russia presents a rescript that convoked the First Hague Peace Conference.

- 1909 – Workers start pouring concrete for the Panama Canal.

- 1911 – Manuel de Arriaga is elected and sworn-in as the first President of Portugal.

- 1914 – World War I: German troops capture Namur.

- 1914 – World War I: The Battle of Cer ends as the first Allied victory in the war.

- 1929 – Second day of two-day Hebron massacre during the 1929 Palestine riots: Arab attacks on the Jewish community in Hebron in the British Mandate of Palestine, result in the death of 65–68 Jews; the remaining Jews are forced to flee the city.

- 1931 – France and the Soviet Union sign a neutrality pact.

- 1931 – Resignation of the United Kingdom's Second Labour Government. Formation of the UK National Government.

- 1932 – Amelia Earhart becomes the first woman to fly across the United States non-stop (from Los Angeles to Newark, New Jersey).

- 1933 – The Crescent Limited train derails in Washington, D.C., after the bridge it is crossing is washed out by the 1933 Chesapeake–Potomac hurricane.

- 1936 – The Australian Antarctic Territory is created.

- 1937 – Spanish Civil War: the Basque Army surrenders to the Italian Corpo Truppe Volontarie following the Santoña Agreement.

- 1937 – Spanish Civil War: Sovereign Council of Asturias and León is proclaimed in Gijón.

- 1941 – Adolf Hitler orders the cessation of Nazi Germany's systematic T4 euthanasia program of the mentally ill and the handicapped due to protests, although killings continue for the remainder of the war.

- 1942 – World War II: The Battle of the Eastern Solomons. Japanese aircraft carrier Ryūjō is sunk, with the loss of 7 officers and 113 crewmen. The US carrier USS Enterprise is heavily damaged.

- 1944 – World War II: Allied troops begin the attack on Paris.

- 1949 – The treaty creating the North Atlantic Treaty Organization goes into effect.

- 1950 – Edith Sampson becomes the first black U.S. delegate to the United Nations.

- 1954 – The Communist Control Act goes into effect, outlawing the American Communist Party.

- 1954 – Getúlio Dornelles Vargas, president of Brazil, commits suicide and is succeeded by João Café Filho.

- 1963 – Buddhist crisis: As a result of the Xá Lợi Pagoda raids, the US State Department cables the United States Embassy, Saigon to encourage Army of the Republic of Vietnam generals to launch a coup against President Ngô Đình Diệm if he did not remove his brother Ngô Đình Nhu.

- 1967 – Led by Abbie Hoffman, the Youth International Party temporarily disrupts trading at the New York Stock Exchange by throwing dollar bills from the viewing gallery, causing trading to cease as brokers scramble to grab them.

- 1970 – Vietnam War protesters bomb Sterling Hall at the University of Wisconsin–Madison, leading to an international manhunt for the perpetrators.

- 1981 – Mark David Chapman is sentenced to 20 years to life in prison for murdering John Lennon.

- 1989 – Colombian drug barons declare "total war" on the Colombian government.

- 1989 – Cincinnati Reds manager Pete Rose is banned from baseball for gambling by Commissioner A. Bartlett Giamatti.

- 1989 – Tadeusz Mazowiecki is chosen as the first non-communist prime minister in Central and Eastern Europe.

- 1991 – Mikhail Gorbachev resigns as head of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.

- 1991 – Ukraine declares itself independent from the Soviet Union.

- 1992 – Hurricane Andrew makes landfall in Homestead, Florida as a Category 5 hurricane, causing up to $25 billion (1992 USD) in damages.

- 1994 – Initial accord between Israel and the PLO about partial self-rule of the Palestinians on the West Bank.

- 1995 – Microsoft Windows 95 was released to the public in North America.

- 1998 – First radio-frequency identification (RFID) human implantation tested in the United Kingdom.

- 2004 – Eighty-nine passengers die after two airliners explode after flying out of Domodedovo International Airport, near Moscow. The explosions are caused by suicide bombers from Chechnya.

- 2006 – The International Astronomical Union (IAU) redefines the term "planet" such that Pluto is now considered a dwarf planet.

- 2010 – In San Fernando, Tamaulipas, Mexico, 72 illegal immigrants are killed by Los Zetas and eventually found dead by Mexican authorities.

- 2016 – An earthquake strikes Central Italy with a magnitude of 6.2, with aftershocks felt as far as Rome and Florence.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1759 – William Wilberforce, English philanthropist and politician

- 1890 – Duke Kahanamoku, American swimmer, actor, and surfer

- 1899 – Jorge Luis Borges, Argentine short-story writer, essayist, poet and translator

- 1929 – Yasser Arafat, Egyptian-Palestinian engineer and politician, 1st President of the Palestinian National Authority

- 1934 – Kenny Baker, English actor

- 1945 – Vince McMahon, American wrestler, promoter, and entrepreneur; co-founded WWE

- 1947 – Paulo Coelho, Brazilian author and songwriter

- 1948 – Jean Michel Jarre, French pianist, composer, and producer

- 1957 – Stephen Fry, English actor, journalist, producer, and screenwriter

- 1965 – Marlee Matlin, American actress and producer

- 1988 – Rupert Grint, English actor

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Quote of the day

People are not disturbed by things, but by the view they take of them.

- Epictetus -

Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.

Jaslandia, Vista Major, The Vidnoye, Andromitus, Kalaron, Slavankya

Friedensreich wrote:Speaking of which, you wanna know why student debt exists?

The fûcking textbooks and the online shít the lazy professors force you to use in lieu of actual quality teaching. I just had to pay 381$ for 2 textbooks and an access code to some online program while I could just pay 101$ for the 2 textbooks.

Basically here's what I had to pay versus what I wanted to pay:

What I wanted to pay.....

-20$, rental for German textbook off amazon

-80$, poli-sci looseleaf textbook (it was just published this year so my bookstore actually has a good price for once! It's 101$ on amazon, but since it's related to my major and my future career I want to keep it)

What I had to pay....

-265$, German textbook and iLrn access code for 24 months (like dafuq, after this semester I ain't going to touch the damn program anymore, so why pay for 2 years)

-60$ poli-sci looseleaf textbook rental

I did say earlier this month on the rmb that textbook companies are crooks!

Nuremgard

It's not my most intricately detailed post, but it gets the point across well and good; And it seems the Second Wave Movement in the Union is gaining much stronger headway!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=26919736

Jaslandia

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=421225&p=32393176#p32393176

The Empire Of Handland

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Almost 40% of my monthly student loan payment is interest. It kills me a little inside with every payment.

Hopefully I don't have to worry about student loans. Most of my college stuff is covered through various scholarships and financial aid, and taking out student loans is the last thing I want to do. However, I may have to take out a small loan (of much less than a million dollars) if I need money for the last few semesters.

Speaking of which, Adam Ruins Everything has some interesting information on the history of student loans: https://youtu.be/pVKEsiNMPNc

Guardian article: is it okay to be friends with a Tory? One of the authors says no.

I cannot stand Tory policies nor can I fathom why any person would vote for them, but it's stupid opinions like the one above that that keep the left on the losing side.

Friedensreich, Kalaron

Nuremgard wrote:Guardian article: is it okay to be friends with a Tory? One of the authors says no.

I cannot stand Tory policies nor can I fathom why any person would vote for them, but it's stupid opinions like the one above that that keep the left on the losing side.

>TMW Nurem is more tolerant towards conservatives than you :P

Just kidding Nur, you know you're the best Scot.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:Guardian article: is it okay to be friends with a Tory? One of the authors says no.

I cannot stand Tory policies nor can I fathom why any person would vote for them, but it's stupid opinions like the one above that that keep the left on the losing side.

To be fair, you haven't half said you wouldn't or couldn't be friends with (or I think it was said you wouldn't date) a tory...

Yukona wrote:To be fair, you haven't half said you wouldn't or couldn't be friends with (or I think it was said you wouldn't date) a tory...

I had a Tory friend in college. He once offered to take me to a conference to meet a guy there since he said there are so many gay men in the Conservative Party. I dunno if I could date a Tory. I'd need to be head over heels in love with him if that was the case.

Yukona

Kalaron wrote:>TMW Nurem is more tolerant towards conservatives than you :P

Just kidding Nur, you know you're the best Scot.

Cheers, Kal.

It's a bit like asking, "is it okay to be friends with a unionist?"

Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:I had a Tory friend in college. He once offered to take me to a conference to meet a guy there since he said there are so many gay men in the Conservative Party. I dunno if I could date a Tory. I'd need to be head over heels in love with him if that was the case.

If I, a libertarian, can make it with a democratic socialist, I think you could manage with a Tory. :P

As for there being a lot of gay men in the Conservative Party, that seems to be the case here in Canada. When I lived in Ottawa, it was like a 50/50 chance that when meeting a male Conservative staffer that he was gay. We had a strange statistical prevalence not just in that field but specifically for that party.

Nuremgard, Andromitus, United Continental States

Continental Commonwealths wrote:If I, a libertarian, can make it with a democratic socialist, I think you could manage with a Tory. :P

As for there being a lot of gay men in the Conservative Party, that seems to be the case here in Canada. When I lived in Ottawa, it was like a 50/50 chance that when meeting a male Conservative staffer that he was gay. We had a strange statistical prevalence not just in that field but specifically for that party.

God knows why since most Con parties hate gay people.

Also, the Tory I'm dating cannot have some of the horrible views many Tories have. Like justifying cuts to welfare.

Nuremgard wrote:God knows why since most Con parties hate gay people.

Also, the Tory I'm dating cannot have some of the horrible views many Tories have. Like justifying cuts to welfare.

The gay issue is very much closed in the Conservative Party of Canada; it is engrained in party policy by a vote of membership that same-sex marriage will not be reopened or challenged under a Conservative Government. Some wackjob MP brings it up now and then, and then is politely ignored by anyone and everyone. Yes, I'm talking about you, Brad Trost.

And on that note, Australia is moving ahead with its plebecite to legalize same-sex marriage! And, although I don't agree that minority rights should come about by way of the benevolence of the majority, I hope our Aussie pals do the right thing and vote for it. And that the government follows through with legalization following the vote.

Yukona

I'd just like to point out a brand new nation just came from a raider region. I think we should do something about this.

Peoples Liberation Republic, The Vidnoye, Yukona

The Empire Of Handland wrote:I'd just like to point out a brand new nation just came from a raider region. I think we should do something about this.

I leave it up to the Justice Ministry, but without strong evidence of a threat, I don't think we can make a case for banning this new nation on sight. For all we know, it could be a former raider who wants to repent and do something different.

Kalaron

The Empire Of Handland wrote:I'd just like to point out a brand new nation just came from a raider region. I think we should do something about this.

Why?

We have three very active founders and no power in the WAD. We're chill homeslice breadslice.

Jaslandia

The Empire Of Handland wrote:I'd just like to point out a brand new nation just came from a raider region. I think we should do something about this.

As we have an active founder and a non-executive WA delegate, I propose we offer a hearty hello post haste!

Hello, [nation=short]Nueva Castilla Real[/nation]!

Jaslandia, Kalaron, Tserra

Continental Commonwealths wrote:The gay issue is very much closed in the Conservative Party of Canada; it is engrained in party policy by a vote of membership that same-sex marriage will not be reopened or challenged under a Conservative Government. Some wackjob MP brings it up now and then, and then is politely ignored by anyone and everyone. Yes, I'm talking about you, Brad Trost.

And on that note, Australia is moving ahead with its plebecite to legalize same-sex marriage! And, although I don't agree that minority rights should come about by way of the benevolence of the majority, I hope our Aussie pals do the right thing and vote for it. And that the government follows through with legalization following the vote.

Most Tories in the UK are against gay marriage. Westminster only passed it because other parties voted to legalise it. Gays vote Conservative because of a process I call "domestigaytion"

Now that being gay is considered normal and we can get married, have kids, have good jobs with a mortgage and nice cars etc. Gays become conservative and self-interested so they vote for the status quo.

As for the Aussies, I too hope they vote for it. I also hope the Irish vote to make abortion legal.

Jaslandia wrote:I leave it up to the Justice Ministry, but without strong evidence of a threat, I don't think we can make a case for banning this new nation on sight. For all we know, it could be a former raider who wants to repent and do something different.

Kalaron wrote:Why?

We have three very active founders and no power in the WAD. We're chill homeslice breadslice.

Continental Commonwealths wrote:As we have an active founder and a non-executive WA delegate, I propose we offer a hearty hello post haste!

Hello, [nation=short]Nueva Castilla Real[/nation]!

I'm just pointing out the fact it was created 2 hours ago, moved to a region called The Invaders, and then moved here 30 minutes ago. I highly doubt it is a former raider considering it was created today. Is what it is. I was just merely pointing this out.

The Empire Of Handland wrote:I'm just pointing out the fact it was created 2 hours ago, moved to a region called The Invaders, and then moved here 30 minutes ago. I highly doubt it is a former raider considering it was created today. Is what it is. I was just merely pointing this out.

Like Kal said, even if it is a raider, there's little a raider could do to harm us: We have an active Founder, and the WAD has no power. Any raiding group would be wasting their time by coming here.

If I held an international conservative conference in my nation at some point, who all would be interested in attending?

Russkov Soviet, Cesorion

Jaslandia wrote:Like Kal said, even if it is a raider, there's little a raider could do to harm us: We have an active Founder, and the WAD has no power. Any raiding group would be wasting their time by coming here.

TBH they should fear us. Rainbow Founder Space Cat is scary.

Jaslandia

Jaslandia wrote:Like Kal said, even if it is a raider, there's little a raider could do to harm us: We have an active Founder, and the WAD has no power. Any raiding group would be wasting their time by coming here.

Fair enough. Like I said, I just thought I'd say something about it.

Nuremgard wrote:Most Tories in the UK are against gay marriage. Westminster only passed it because other parties voted to legalise it. Gays vote Conservative because of a process I call "domestigaytion"

Now that being gay is considered normal and we can get married, have kids, have good jobs with a mortgage and nice cars etc. Gays become conservative and self-interested so they vote for the status quo.

As for the Aussies, I too hope they vote for it. I also hope the Irish vote to make abortion legal.

I voted Conservative in 2011 because they had better economic policies (well, any economic policies, really). They didn't threaten my rights as a gay man because same sex marriage had been legalized for more than half a decade and the Tories had pledged not to reopen it already. The PM himself had voted against, and encouraged the entire House to vote against, a private member bill from one of his own MP's to reopen the debate on abortion. One of the highest profile Ministers was himself gay.

I didn't vote for them in 2015 because they had become to complacent, increasing the power of the Prime Minister's Office and advocating for silly social policies.

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I voted Conservative in 2011 because they had better economic policies (well, any economic policies, really). They didn't threaten my rights as a gay man because same sex marriage had been legalized for more than half a decade and the Tories had pledged not to reopen it already. The PM himself had voted against, and encouraged the entire House to vote against, a private member bill from one of his own MP's to reopen the debate on abortion. One of the highest profile Ministers was himself gay.

I didn't vote for them in 2015 because they had become to complacent, increasing the power of the Prime Minister's Office and advocating for silly social policies.

I get that most gay Conservative voters like the economic policies. I find them anathema personally but that's just me.

The Empire Of Handland wrote:I'd just like to point out a brand new nation just came from a raider region. I think we should do something about this.

Continental Commonwealths wrote:As we have an active founder and a non-executive WA delegate, I propose we offer a hearty hello post haste!

Hello, [nation=short]Nueva Castilla Real[/nation]!

I understand your initial cause for concern Handland, but I side with CC on this one, Welcome to the Region NCR! I'm Andy, MoJ, Mentor, and RP Moderator and I look forward to getting to know you!

Jaslandia, Yukona

Italian Prime Minister: Hello to all Confederates! I am the Prime Minister of Italy and I come to this region to find prosperity and cooperation among the nations.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

The Empire Of Handland wrote:If I held an international conservative conference in my nation at some point, who all would be interested in attending?

You can count me in.

The Empire Of Handland

Nuremgard wrote:I get that most gay Conservative voters like the economic policies. I find them anathema personally but that's just me.

I think for a lot of them, "stay out of my bedroom" goes hand-in-hand with "stay out of my wallet".

Not that I'm advocating for the "all tax is -" argument. But I think it gets a little ridiculous when income, purchases, property, investments, dividends, inheritance, savings, capital assets, and corporate earnings (twice) are all taxed. So, when one party says they're lowering the sales tax and increasing the annual tax free savings limit, while also promising to stay out of my bedroom, I tend to listen.

Yukona

Penisola Italica wrote:Italian Prime Minister: Hello to all Confederates! I am the Prime Minister of Italy and I come to this region to find prosperity and cooperation among the nations.

Greetings Italy! We are the Ædenist Union, a Socio-Syndicalist nation in South America; We're glad to make your acquaintance!

Also, (OOC) Welcome to the Region, I'm Andy, Minister of Justice, Mentor, and RP Moderator, if you have any questions or concerns feel free to contact me :D

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, United Continental States

The Empire Of Handland wrote:I'm just pointing out the fact it was created 2 hours ago, moved to a region called The Invaders, and then moved here 30 minutes ago. I highly doubt it is a former raider considering it was created today. Is what it is. I was just merely pointing this out.

First of all, lets chill. I'm trying to understand this awesome page. For now, I don't want to hurt anybody, but don't play with me. Viva el Rey y VIVA LA NUEVA CASTILLA!

Jaslandia, Peoples Liberation Republic

Andromitus wrote:I understand your initial cause for concern Handland, but I side with CC on this one, Welcome to the Region NCR! I'm Andy, MoJ, Mentor, and RP Moderator and I look forward to getting to know you!

Thank you. Maybe I will contact you later.

Jaslandia

It's kinda cool to see this kind of role-playing games still alive. I'm very proud of all of you guys.

Jaslandia, Peoples Liberation Republic, Axeldonia, Andromitus, Yukona, Cesorion

The Empire Of Handland wrote:If I held an international conservative conference in my nation at some point, who all would be interested in attending?

Not me...thats for sure. I'm nothing but a "dirty, filthy Communist" if I recall.

Nueva Castilla Real wrote:First of all, lets chill. I'm trying to understand this awesome page. For now, I don't want to hurt anybody, but don't play with me. Viva el Rey y VIVA LA NUEVA CASTILLA!

Italian Prime Minister: hm ... who are you?

Russkov Soviet wrote:Not me...thats for sure. I'm nothing but a "dirty, filthy Communist" if I recall.

Hey so am I! Lets be Filthy Commies together :D

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia

Andromitus wrote:Hey so am I! Lets be Filthy Commies together :D

Is good news! Is Communist Party Time! Many vodka will be drunk!

Andromitus

This week in: The World!

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=421225&p=32393603#p32393603

Moldegaard

Nueva Castilla Real wrote:First of all, lets chill. I'm trying to understand this awesome page. For now, I don't want to hurt anybody, but don't play with me. Viva el Rey y VIVA LA NUEVA CASTILLA!

Haha I will crush you if you mess with me. I was simply pointing out something sketchy. No harm was done, so no real foul play.

Andromitus

Russkov Soviet wrote:Not me...thats for sure. I'm nothing but a "dirty, filthy Communist" if I recall.

Andromitus wrote:Hey so am I! Lets be Filthy Commies together :D

*sets garden hose to "Filthy Commie" setting and begins to hose down*

Jaslandia, Andromitus

Andromitus wrote:This week in: The World!

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=421225&p=32393603#p32393603

So should we be expecting some conflict between these two waves of politicians?

Italian Prime Minister: Gentlemen, you can proceed with a quiet discussion to resolve the problem. Weapons do damage that can not be repaired.

Jaslandia

The Empire Of Handland wrote:If I held an international conservative conference in my nation at some point, who all would be interested in attending?

Not gonna be me, recently decided Kalaron is going to be a syndicalist nation who are socialist democrats.

Kalaron wrote:Not gonna be me, recently decided Kalaron is going to be a syndicalist nation who are socialist democrats.

Nice. I'm more national syndicalist.

The Empire Of Handland wrote:Haha I will crush you if you mess with me. I was simply pointing out something sketchy. No harm was done, so no real foul play.

Let me grow and we will see. For now allies.

Continental Commonwealths wrote:*sets garden hose to "Filthy Commie" setting and begins to hose down*

NNNNNYYYYYEEEEEEETTTTTTTT

STOP SPRAYING ME!!

NOOO!!

MY BEAUTIFUL EQUINE MUSK!!

NNNNNEEEEEIIIIIIGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!

Nueva Castilla Real

Nueva Castilla Real wrote:Let me grow and we will see. For now allies.

Italian Prime Minister: This behavior is aggressive, even if your nation is, sorry if I tell you, tiny, speak as if you were a gigantic nation. This will not bring your nation far away.

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I think for a lot of them, "stay out of my bedroom" goes hand-in-hand with "stay out of my wallet".

Not that I'm advocating for the "all tax is -" argument. But I think it gets a little ridiculous when income, purchases, property, investments, dividends, inheritance, savings, capital assets, and corporate earnings (twice) are all taxed. So, when one party says they're lowering the sales tax and increasing the annual tax free savings limit, while also promising to stay out of my bedroom, I tend to listen.

You must have money to look after yourself then. Because all that tax helps fund public services for the less well off.

Nuremgard wrote:You must have money to look after yourself then. Because all that tax helps fund public services for the less well off.

Italian Prime Minister: Taxes, in theory, serve to finance public spending and not to fund their portfolio. High taxes are good if used to improve the lives of their citizens and not the life of a single president or head of government.

Nuremgard

Penisola Italica wrote:Italian Prime Minister: Taxes, in theory, serve to finance public spending and not to fund their portfolio. High taxes are good if used to improve the lives of their citizens and not the life of a single president or head of government.

I advocate cutting the salaries and expenses of politicians and heads of government.

Penisola Italica

Penisola Italica wrote:Italian Prime Minister: This behavior is aggressive, even if your nation is, sorry if I tell you, tiny, speak as if you were a gigantic nation. This will not bring your nation far away.

Right hand of the Glorious Leader: so sorry Italian Prime Minister, The Leader was a bit annoyed and its a little compulsive.

Nuremgard wrote:I advocate cutting the salaries and expenses of politicians and heads of government.

Italian Prime Minister: Certainly, cutting the wages of politicians and heads of government is more than right. But never cuts too deep, because the politician or head of the government in question must have a minimum wage to be able to make a normal life as any citizen.

Penisola Italica wrote:Italian Prime Minister: Certainly, cutting the wages of politicians and heads of government is more than right. But never cuts too deep, because the politician or head of the government in question must have a minimum wage to be able to make a normal life as any citizen.

Of course. But their pay must be more reasonable. It's too much of a gravy train these days.

Penisola Italica

Nueva Castilla Real wrote:Right hand of the Glorious Leader: so sorry Italian Prime Minister, The Leader was a bit annoyed and its a little compulsive.

Prime Minister: a compulsive leader? Is a very serious matter. A head of a government should be mentally stable, can not drive a drifting country.

Nuremgard wrote:You must have money to look after yourself then. Because all that tax helps fund public services for the less well off.

Nope. There is no way in the realm of any reality that the phrase "all that tax helps fund public services for the well off" is remotely true.

Because those same tax dollars pay for subjective art projects, salaries for politicians well beyond the national average, salaries for public servants abovr and beyond the average- a number of which sit at about 8x the national average at $440,000/year- providing tax incentives for donating to political parties, and the list goes on.

So, I don't think you can be both aware and make the statement that every dollar taxed from a private individual ("all that tax...") goes towards benefitting the less fortunate. And that's not even considering the arguments regarding an overcomplicated tax system, a convoluted and inefficient tax code, and methods of regressive taxation- all of which exist in Canada, the UK, and (what the hell, let's include them) the US.

Nuremgard wrote:Of course. But their pay must be more reasonable. It's too much of a gravy train these days.

Prime Minister: Do you know why wages have to stay a bit high? Because politicians are not influenced by external factors, a politician with a too low wage is easily corrupt.

Nueva Castilla Real wrote:Let me grow and we will see. For now allies.

Why would I be allies with someone who is going to eventually try and square up to fight me?

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Nope. There is no way in the realm of any reality that the phrase "all that tax helps fund public services for the less* well off" is remotely true.

Because those same tax dollars pay for subjective art projects, salaries for politicians well beyond the national average, salaries for public servants abovr and beyond the average- a number of which sit at about 8x the national average at $440,000/year- providing tax incentives for donating to political parties, and the list goes on.

So, I don't think you can be both aware and make the statement that every dollar taxed from a private individual ("all that tax...") goes towards benefitting the less fortunate. And that's not even considering the arguments regarding an overcomplicated tax system, a convoluted and inefficient tax code, and methods of regressive taxation- all of which exist in Canada, the UK, and (what the hell, let's include them) the US.

Cesorion

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