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Gualimole wrote:The fact that he is ignoring anti-Semitism in his party is pretty bad. So is him barely doing any campaigning for Remain in the Brexit referendum. Despite their ideological differences, one of the few things that Trump and Corbyn have in common is that both are anti-internationalist.

Well he’s Vote Leave anyway so he wouldn’t campaign for Remain

I'm going to bring up something rather controversial:

The United States should end all foreign aid. We need to balance our budget since we're 21 trillion in the hole right now, and yes we really should do something like slash our defense spending like 50% and cut other unnecessary spending as well.

But to the original part of my subject, if people want aid, they could beg Russia or China for aid or something.

Yukona wrote:

Well he’s Vote Leave anyway so he wouldn’t campaign for Remain

And considering how much of a mess Brexit is, he definitely supported the worse option, at least IMO.

Yukona

Deimosan wrote:I'm going to bring up something rather controversial:

The United States should end all foreign aid. We need to balance our budget since we're 21 trillion in the hole right now, and yes we really should do something like slash our defense spending like 50% and cut other unnecessary spending as well.

But to the original part of my subject, if people want aid, they could beg Russia or China for aid or something.

Define unnecessary spending. Also, you know what else doesn't help the debt and deficit? Massive tax cuts for the already obscenely wealthy.

Axeldonia

Yukona wrote:Well he’s Vote Leave anyway so he wouldn’t campaign for Remain

We're going to be hearing about Brexit for the next century aren't we?

Axeldonia

Gualimole wrote:The fact that he is ignoring anti-Semitism in his party is pretty bad. So is him barely doing any campaigning for Remain in the Brexit referendum. Despite their ideological differences, one of the few things that Trump and Corbyn have in common is that both are anti-internationalist.

What antisemitism?

anti-zionism =/= antisemitism

Nuremgard, Axeldonia

Unfallious wrote:What antisemitism?

anti-zionism =/= antisemitism

Sssshhhh. We're not allowed to criticise Israel. They're saintly and amazing and to say otherwise makes you worse than Hitler.

Axeldonia

Nuremgard wrote:Sssshhhh. We're not allowed to criticise Israel. They're saintly and amazing and to say otherwise makes you worse than Hitler.

It's so supremely dumb and misinformed to accuse the Labour party of antisemitism.

In 2016 a House select committee found antisemitism to be no more prevalent in the Labour Party than in any other party in the UK. Additionally, in 2015, 2016 and 2017 YouGov carried out surveys across the UK and found Labour supporters were actually less likely to be antisemitic than those who were supporters of the Tories or UKIP.

Not only that, but 3 separate Jewish groups (all left leaning or otherwise anti-zionist) have pointed out that the allegations of antisemitism are increasingly being levelled against comments which criticised Israel or were used as a means of undermining Corbyn.

The whole situation is dumb and anyone who thinks they're familiar with UK politics and accuses Labour of being antisemitic is terribly misinformed.

Nuremgard, Axeldonia

Unfallious wrote:It's so supremely dumb and misinformed to accuse the Labour party of antisemitism.

In 2016 a House select committee found antisemitism to be no more prevalent in the Labour Party than in any other party in the UK. Additionally, in 2015, 2016 and 2017 YouGov carried out surveys across the UK and found Labour supporters were actually less likely to be antisemitic than those who were supporters of the Tories or UKIP.

Not only that, but 3 separate Jewish groups (all left leaning or otherwise anti-zionist) have pointed out that the allegations of antisemitism are increasingly being levelled against comments which criticised Israel or were used as a means of undermining Corbyn.

The whole situation is dumb and anyone who thinks they're familiar with UK politics and accuses Labour of being antisemitic is terribly misinformed.

All the while this is going on, the media is conveniently ignoring Islamophobia in the Tory Party. But you are correct. Ultimately, this antisemitism BS is just a way to get rid of a leftist, pro-Palestine leader.

Isn't it amazing how all this antisemitism just appeared out of nowhere as soon as Corbyn got elected? Where were all these horrible Jew-haters when Miliband was leader?

Axeldonia

Nuremgard wrote:All the while this is going on, the media is conveniently ignoring Islamophobia in the Tory Party. But you are correct. Ultimately, this antisemitism BS is just a way to get rid of a leftist, pro-Palestine leader.

Isn't it amazing how all this antisemitism just appeared out of nowhere as soon as Corbyn got elected? Where were all these horrible Jew-haters when Miliband was leader?

Its just become a bandwagon at this point.

Oh my local party deselected me? Wow Corbyn is so antisemitic.

Whoa Corbyn did something I disagree with? Oh gee so much antisemitism in this party.

This Frank Field Labour whip who resigned because of 'antisemitism'? He had been deselected by his own local party because he had been supporting Theresa May in parliamentary votes. It wasn't even about antisemitism, he just jumped on the wagon when he lost support.

Nuremgard, Axeldonia

Unfallious wrote:

What antisemitism?

anti-zionism =/= antisemitism

https://www.timesofisrael.com/corbyn-called-for-uks-holocaust-memorial-day-to-be-renamed/

Unfallious wrote:Its just become a bandwagon at this point.

Oh my local party deselected me? Wow Corbyn is so antisemitic.

Whoa Corbyn did something I disagree with? Oh gee so much antisemitism in this party.

This Frank Field Labour whip who resigned because of 'antisemitism'? He had been deselected by his own local party because he had been supporting Theresa May in parliamentary votes. It wasn't even about antisemitism, he just jumped on the wagon when he lost support.

oh and at a party to celebrate Frank Field reaching 30 years in parliament Margaret Thatcher turned up, so yunno

a true labour hero this guy

Nuremgard, Axeldonia

Gualimole wrote:https://www.timesofisrael.com/corbyn-called-for-uks-holocaust-memorial-day-to-be-renamed/

but like

The Nazis did target non-Jewish people too? Like, what's wrong with changing the name to reflect that?

Axeldonia

Unfallious wrote:but like

The Nazis did target non-Jewish people too? Like, what's wrong with changing the name to reflect that?

also this is a 2011 parliamentary motion that didn't even go anywhere, this is such a great bit of digging done to find a single low-quality example his opponents can wave around.

Axeldonia

Unfallious wrote:oh and at a party to celebrate Frank Field reaching 30 years in parliament Margaret Thatcher turned up, so yunno

a true labour hero this guy

He also said disabled people should be paid less than able bodied people.

A true Labour man of equality and principle. But apparently, according to the Guardian, Field is a "voice worth hearing."

Axeldonia

Unfallious wrote:but like

The Nazis did target non-Jewish people too? Like, what's wrong with changing the name to reflect that?

You don't get it. The Jews were special. The fact that numerous other minorities were targeted, brutalised and murdered on a systematic scale is irrelevant because...Jews.

Axeldonia

Unfallious wrote:

but like

The Nazis did target non-Jewish people too? Like, what's wrong with changing the name to reflect that?

The current name already reflects that. Also, you seem to have forgotten this:

"Labour under Corbyn, a hard-left politician who has called Hezbollah and Hamas his 'friends' and who is fighting accusations of harboring anti-Semitic sentiments, has come under intense scrutiny over anti-Semitic rhetoric by party members. In 2016, an inter-parliamentary committee accused Labour of creating a 'safe space for those with vile attitudes towards Jewish people.'"

Nuremgard wrote:

You don't get it. The Jews were special. The fact that numerous other minorities were targeted, brutalised and murdered on a systematic scale is irrelevant because...Jews.

These days, the Holocaust refers to all who were killed by the Nazis in their genocidal actions, not just Jews.

Gualimole wrote:The current name already reflects that. Also, you seem to have forgotten this:

"Labour under Corbyn, a hard-left politician who has called Hezbollah and Hamas his 'friends' and who is fighting accusations of harboring anti-Semitic sentiments, has come under intense scrutiny over anti-Semitic rhetoric by party members. In 2016, an inter-parliamentary committee accused Labour of creating a 'safe space for those with vile attitudes towards Jewish people.'"

Corbyn is "hard-left." Lol.

Axeldonia

Gualimole wrote:These days, the Holocaust refers to all who were killed by the Nazis in their genocidal actions, not just Jews.

And many Jews are happy to bring up memories of the Holocaust to serve their own political agenda.

Axeldonia

Gualimole wrote:The current name already reflects that. Also, you seem to have forgotten this:

"Labour under Corbyn, a hard-left politician who has called Hezbollah and Hamas his 'friends' and who is fighting accusations of harboring anti-Semitic sentiments, has come under intense scrutiny over anti-Semitic rhetoric by party members. In 2016, an inter-parliamentary committee accused Labour of creating a 'safe space for those with vile attitudes towards Jewish people.'"

Holocaust specifically refers to Jews, it's only broader later definitions that incorporate all the other minorities in there.

Thanks for finding a single study that says otherwise and then acting like that disproves the 3 different surveys, and 1 select committee enquiry.

This is extremely surprising when you were like, the biggest anti-Israel guy in this region just a short period ago, who referred to Israel as an ' apartheid ethnostate that should be boycotted, divested, and sanctioned'. I have a feeling you're stirring up conflict just because.

Nuremgard, Axeldonia

Nuremgard wrote:



Corbyn is "hard-left." Lol.

How is he not? He supports renationalization and a massive influx of funding into the NHS. Not only that, but his Euroscepticism comes from a tradition of the hard left opposing the EU because they see it as a neoliberal project.

Gualimole wrote:How is he not? He supports renationalization and a massive influx of funding into the NHS. Not only that, but his Euroscepticism comes from a line of the hard left opposing the EU because they see it as a neoliberal project.

So nationalising industries and funding the health service is hard left now?

Oh, no. He wants to give the NHS more money. What an awful, evil commie he is.

You do realise that state-owned railways is the norm in Europe right?

Axeldonia

Unfallious wrote:

Holocaust specifically refers to Jews, it's only broader later definitions that incorporate all the other minorities in there.

Thanks for finding a single study that says otherwise and then acting like that disproves the 3 different surveys, and 1 select committee enquiry.

This is extremely surprising when you were like, the biggest anti-Israel guy in this region just a short period ago, who referred to Israel as an ' apartheid ethnostate that should be boycotted, divested, and sanctioned'. I have a feeling you're stirring up conflict just because.

Nobody is talking about Israel here. Israel and anti-Semitism are two different topics. Also, I don't see why the surveys matter when the anti-Semitism scandals have been focused on party leadership rather than Labour supporters at least to my knowledge.

Gualimole wrote:Nobody is talking about Israel here. Israel and anti-Semitism are two different topics. Also, I don't see why the surveys matter when the anti-Semitism scandals have been focused on party leadership rather than Labour supporters at least to my knowledge.

It's targeting the whole party, not just the leadership.

And it's weird you'd say that Israel and antisemitism are two entirely different topics, because many of these allegations of antisemitism stem from criticisms of Israel.

Nuremgard, Axeldonia

It's not just the railways. It's also water and energy. Additionally, my objection regarding the NHS isn't about the fact that Labour supports an influx in general, but that it supports a 30 billion pound influx, which is pretty high considering potential efficiency savings. Also, Euroscepticism is not the norm in most European center-left parties. And according to you, Corbyn is just a regular ol' leftist, not someone on the hard left.

Gualimole wrote:It's not just the railways. It's also water and energy. Additionally, my objection regarding the NHS isn't about the fact that Labour supports an influx in general, but that it supports a 30 billion pound influx, which is pretty high considering potential efficiency savings. Also, Euroscepticism is not the norm in most European center-left parties. And according to you, Corbyn is just a regular ol' leftist, not someone on the hard left.

He's not hard-left, mate. No matter how much you or the media claim he is. Most Brits wouldn't know hard-left if it slapped them on the bollocks because political discourse has moved so far to the right here that anything to the left of Genghis Khan is considered communist madness.

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Gualimole wrote:The stories I have seen have not really focused on Labour supporters, making the inclusion of surveys about them unnecessary IMO. Also, the article I linked didn't have all that much to do with Israel. Opposing Israel is fine, but calling Hezbollah and Hamas your friends is very concerning.

Every country and its leaders has "concerning" friends. I'm very concerned by how much my government sucks Saudi dick on the international stage but I don't hear much condemnation of it in the mainstream media.

Axeldonia

Unfallious wrote:

It's targeting the whole party, not just the leadership.

And it's weird you'd say that Israel and antisemitism are two entirely different topics, because many of these allegations of antisemitism stem from criticisms of Israel.

The stories I have seen have not really focused on Labour supporters, making the inclusion of surveys about them unnecessary IMO. Also, the article I linked didn't have all that much to do with Israel. Opposing Israel is fine, but calling Hezbollah and Hamas your friends is very concerning.

Nuremgard wrote:

Every country and its leaders has "concerning" friends. I'm very concerned by how much my government sucks Saudi dick on the international stage but I don't hear much condemnation of it in the mainstream media.

I agree. The UK government's ties to the Saudis is no good. However, that doesn't make what Corbyn said any good.

Gualimole wrote:I agree. The UK government's ties to the Saudis is no good. However, that doesn't make what Corbyn said any good.

Also, why isn't David Cameron being accused of being a friend of terrorists? He went to Nelson Mandela's funeral and as wl all know, according to the Tories, Mandela was an awful terrorist who should have been hanged. Not to mention the fact that the British state colluded with unionist terrorist groups during the Troubles in Northern Ireland.

Funny how it's only Corbyn's links to terrorists that are brought to national attention.

Axeldonia

Nuremgard wrote:

Also, why isn't David Cameron being accused of being a friend of terrorists? He went to Nelson Mandela's funeral and as wl all know, according to the Tories, Mandela was an awful terrorist who should have been hanged. Not to mention the fact that the British state colluded with unionist terrorist groups during the Troubles in Northern Ireland.

Funny how it's only Corbyn's links to terrorists that are brought to national attention.

Again, while the points you made about the Tories are completely valid, that doesn't vindicate Corbyn. You're starting to sound like a partisan hack.

Gualimole wrote:Again, while the points you made about the Tories are completely valid, that doesn't vindicate Corbyn. You're starting to sound like a partisan hack.

I'm not being a partisan hack, I am pointing out the monumental hypocrisy on the right concerning the issue. I have no skin in the game as I'm an SNP man. I can simply see through the BS the media is pushing.

Nuremgard wrote:

I'm not being a partisan hack, I am pointing out the monumental hypocrisy on the right concerning the issue. I have no skin in the game as I'm an SNP man. I can simply see through the BS the media is pushing.

BS in that you don't believe the claims about Corbyn or that the faults of the Tories are not being covered? I can agree with you on the latter but not the former.

Gualimole wrote:BS in that you don't believe the claims about Corbyn or that the faults of the Tories are not being covered? I can agree with you on the latter but not the former.

Corbyn has many faults as Labour leader but if you expect me to believe he is some sort of anti-Semitic monster? Not a chance. Show me concrete evidence that Corbyn has said something or did something that incontrovertibly proves he hates Jews.

Nuremgard wrote:

Corbyn has many faults as Labour leader but if you expect me to believe he is some sort of anti-Semitic monster? Not a chance. Show me concrete evidence that Corbyn has said something or did something that incontrovertibly proves he hates Jews.

I don't think that Corbyn hates Jews, but he is condoning anti-Semitism in his party and his statements about Hamas and Hezbollah are concerning. Things aren't black and white.

Gualimole wrote:I don't think that Corbyn hates Jews, but he is condoning anti-Semitism in his party and his statements about Hamas and Hezbollah are concerning. Things aren't black and white.

Mate, Corbyn could publicly swear allegiance to Benjamin Netanyahu and he'd be accused of antisemitism because he didn't bow low enough to the man.

Nuremgard wrote:

Mate, Corbyn could publicly swear allegiance to Benjamin Netanyahu and he'd be accused of antisemitism because he didn't bow low enough to the man.

Hyperbole is hyperbole and not an argument.

Gualimole wrote:Hyperbole is hyperbole and not an argument.

How exactly is he condoning antisemitism?

Nuremgard wrote:

How exactly is he condoning antisemitism?

"In 2016, an inter-parliamentary committee accused Labour of creating a 'safe space for those with vile attitudes towards Jewish people.'"

Gualimole wrote:"In 2016, an inter-parliamentary committee accused Labour of creating a 'safe space for those with vile attitudes towards Jewish people.'"

I don't doubt there are anti-Semites within Labour. There's anti-Semites everywhere. But if anybody is engaging in hyperbole, it's some Jews and MPs who are behaving as if Corbyn is Adolf Hitler and that Britain is 1930s Germany.

David Blunkett said this was a "threat to democracy itself." This is just hysterical screeching, not criticism.

Nuremgard wrote:

I don't doubt there are anti-Semites within Labour. There's anti-Semites everywhere. But if anybody is engaging in hyperbole, it's some Jews and MPs who are behaving as if Corbyn is Adolf Hitler and that Britain is 1930s Germany.

David Blunkett said this was a "threat to democracy itself." This is just hysterical screeching, not criticism.

It's not that there are anti-Semites, but that Labour is providing a safe space for them.

Gualimole wrote:It's not that there are anti-Semites, but that Labour is providing a safe space for them.

Well whether it is or isn't is ultimately no concern of mine.

Nuremgard wrote:

Well whether it is or isn't is ultimately no concern of mine.

If your political beliefs are based exclusively on self-interest, then you're not exactly the best person.

Gualimole wrote:If your political beliefs are based exclusively on self-interest, then you're not exactly the best person.

I'm sorry that I put my family's and country's interests before a party that gives zero f*cks about me or my country. I guess that doesn't make me the best person.

Gualimole wrote:If your political beliefs are based exclusively on self-interest, then you're not exactly the best person.

You must be a saint then.

Nuremgard

Lex Caledonia wrote:You must be a saint then.

I'm sure when all those Tories go to the polls to vote for austerity, they are thinking about what's best for other people.

Lex Caledonia wrote:

You must be a saint then.

Never claimed I was.

Nuremgard wrote:

I'm sure when all those Tories go to the polls to vote for austerity, they are thinking about what's best for other people.

I never defended the Tories. Why do you always bring them up when British left-wing politics is being criticized?

Gualimole wrote:I never defended the Tories. Why do you always bring them up when British left-wing politics is being criticized?

Because no matter how bad people claim the left is, the Tories are and always will be worse.

Nuremgard wrote:

Because no matter how bad people claim the left is, the Tories are and always will be worse.

That doesn't vindicate the left of all criticism. You really are starting to sound like a partisan hack.

Gualimole wrote:That doesn't vindicate the left of all criticism. You really are starting to sound like a partisan hack.

Being partisan is in vogue these days.

Nuremgard wrote:

Being partisan is in vogue these days.

So are many other terrible things. Doesn't justify them.

115+ RMB posts... and most are political. I can't be arsed to read them.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Anglia Imperium

Gualimole wrote:So are many other terrible things. Doesn't justify them.

Watch this space. When/if Corbyn is removed as leader, the "antisemitism issue" will magically disappear. If I was him, I'd leave politics, let some Blairite take over and watch the party rot.

Nuremgard wrote:

Watch this space. When/if Corbyn is removed as leader, the "antisemitism issue" will magically disappear. If I was him, I'd leave politics, let some Blairite take over and watch the party rot.

It wouldn't magically disappear, but it would gradually go away if Corbyn changed his ways or if he was replaced with someone who actually cared about the issue. Also, the Blairites taking over in some scenario will not cause the party to rot. In polls between May and Corbyn, she's leading by double-digit points. The reason why the parties that they lead are closer in the polls is because the Tories have handled Brexit so badly. A pro-EU Labour Party might actually do better than Labour is now.

Gualimole wrote:It wouldn't magically disappear, but it would gradually go away if Corbyn changed his ways or if he was replaced with someone who actually cared about the issue. Also, the Blairites taking over in some scenario will not cause the party to rot. In polls between May and Corbyn, she's leading by double-digit points. The reason why the parties that they lead are closer in the polls is because the Tories have handled Brexit so badly. A pro-EU Labour Party might actually do better than Labour is now.

A Blairite Labour party, yes. England is basically f*cked at this point in terms of its political parties. Thank God we have the SNP up here as an alternative.

Russkov Soviet wrote:115+ RMB posts... and most are political. I can't be arsed to read them.

Same.

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:

A Blairite Labour party, yes. England is basically f*cked at this point in terms of its political parties. Thank God we have the SNP up here as an alternative.

I thought you liked Corbyn. Now, you're saying the English are f*cked.

Gualimole wrote:I thought you liked Corbyn. Now, you're saying the English are f*cked.

They are f*cked because they wont elect Corbyn, because they believe the media who tell them he's an anti-Semitic psychotic communist.

Also, I don't like Corbyn. As I've said before, I'm lukewarm to him. He's a unionist after all and knows the square root of f*ck all about Scotland so I don't have much time for him.

Nuremgard wrote:

A Blairite Labour party, yes. England is basically f*cked at this point in terms of its political parties. Thank God we have the SNP up here as an alternative.

Also, the SNP isn't exactly great.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-38207729

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/aug/20/lockerbie-bomber-released

Nuremgard wrote:

They are f*cked because they wont elect Corbyn, because they believe the media who tell them he's an anti-Semitic psychotic communist.

Also, I don't like Corbyn. As I've said before, I'm lukewarm to him. He's a unionist after all and knows the square root of f*ck all about Scotland so I don't have much time for him.

If the SNP didn't exist, who would you vote for instead?

Gualimole wrote:Also, the SNP isn't exactly great.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-38207729

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/aug/20/lockerbie-bomber-released

They're the best of a bad bunch.

Gualimole wrote:If the SNP didn't exist, who would you vote for instead?

The Greens or I just wouldn't vote at all.

Well.... this is turning out bloodier than expected. I found some warfare sim and decided to run a conflict between Spanelsko and myself. Sadly, I lost the link and can't remember what the site was called. I've got to stop doing this stuff at 3 am. But... I did get some figures written down.

(Incomplete figures)

The war has been going on for roughly three weeks at this point. We both share similar "no retreat" tactics which has led to hand to hand fighting of a ferocity not seen since the World Wars. Casualties are estimated to be at around 64,000 with most of the conflict being waged on land. Given the way each side fights, the war will not be 'won' by either side, but will result in the decimation of each sides armed forces.

So... on that note... I'm making a new flag and name for that eventual date.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Spanelsko

Gualimole wrote:Also, the SNP isn't exactly great.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-38207729

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/aug/20/lockerbie-bomber-released

Ah yes, I too can type in: *insert political party* is bad in google too.

Nuremgard, Mercunova

Lex Caledonia wrote:

Ah yes, I too can type in: *insert political party* is bad in google too.

Those were things I had some very vague prior knowledge of. I just found and read articles about such things to regurgitate my memory.

I am going to try and reduce public spending in Nuremgard. Hopefully I can get taxes down to something more reasonable. That'll take years no doubt. I may need to sacrifice my country's welfare state and public services in order to raise their disposable income. But we'll see what happens.

Russkov Soviet

Russkov Soviet wrote:Well.... this is turning out bloodier than expected. I found some warfare sim and decided to run a conflict between Spanelsko and myself. Sadly, I lost the link and can't remember what the site was called. I've got to stop doing this stuff at 3 am. But... I did get some figures written down.

(Incomplete figures)

The war has been going on for roughly three weeks at this point. We both share similar "no retreat" tactics which has led to hand to hand fighting of a ferocity not seen since the World Wars. Casualties are estimated to be at around 64,000 with most of the conflict being waged on land. Given the way each side fights, the war will not be 'won' by either side, but will result in the decimation of each sides armed forces.

So... on that note... I'm making a new flag and name for that eventual date.

Damn, I wish you still had the link, that sounds interesting.

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Russkov Soviet wrote:Well.... this is turning out bloodier than expected. I found some warfare sim and decided to run a conflict between Spanelsko and myself. Sadly, I lost the link and can't remember what the site was called. I've got to stop doing this stuff at 3 am. But... I did get some figures written down.

(Incomplete figures)

The war has been going on for roughly three weeks at this point. We both share similar "no retreat" tactics which has led to hand to hand fighting of a ferocity not seen since the World Wars. Casualties are estimated to be at around 64,000 with most of the conflict being waged on land. Given the way each side fights, the war will not be 'won' by either side, but will result in the decimation of each sides armed forces.

So... on that note... I'm making a new flag and name for that eventual date.

My way of showing you moral support.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U06jlgpMtQs

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia

Unfallious wrote:Damn, I wish you still had the link, that sounds interesting.

I'll look through my browser history when I get home tonight, in.... three hours.

Nuremgard wrote:My way of showing you moral support.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U06jlgpMtQs

Конный союз никогда не будет кланяться спанелско! Наша артиллерия будет разрушать их города, наши танки будут катиться по улицам, и небо будет наполнено нашими самолетами. С вашими штыками, голыми руками, зубами... Слезы несчастных фашистов друг от друга! URA!!

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Well... I wasn't able to find the site, so I did something unnecessarily complicated and harder than needed. I took a look at both of our armies, from the soldiers to the vehicles, and attempted to compare them one-by-one. Unfortunately, Spanelsko hasn't specified models, years, or other factors that Kalaron would want... So, I had to go off of 1970's to 2000's vehicles. The results are not accurate in any sense, but match the earlier post. This war is going to be a draw, but only due to the great cost it will bring on the both of us.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Russkov Soviet wrote:Well... I wasn't able to find the site, so I did something unnecessarily complicated and harder than needed. I took a look at both of our armies, from the soldiers to the vehicles, and attempted to compare them one-by-one. Unfortunately, Spanelsko hasn't specified models, years, or other factors that Kalaron would want... So, I had to go off of 1970's to 2000's vehicles. The results are not accurate in any sense, but match the earlier post. This war is going to be a draw, but only due to the great cost it will bring on the both of us.

Nice new flag.

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:Nice new flag.

Thank you. I figured it was time to embrace the truth.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Yukona

I read an article in the Guardian today about Turkey. In the picture they used, they showed northern Cyprus as being part of Turkey. Many comments complained about this but one user, named Mehmet, said the whole island should be red, i.e. under Turkish control.

You were right about the Mehmets!

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova, Yukona, Gualimole

MESSAGE FROM THE OFFICE OF THE SPEAKER

B024 has now moved to third reading vote.

http://thecoffincofn.boards.net/thread/104/b024-border-security-act

http://thecoffincofn.boards.net/thread/104/b024-border-security-act

http://thecoffincofn.boards.net/thread/104/b024-border-security-act

http://thecoffincofn.boards.net/thread/104/b024-border-security-act

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia

The SNP is now the second largest party in the UK by membership, overtaking even the Tories. Moreover, a recent poll has shown that a majority of Scots would vote for independence in the event of Brexit.

Incredible stuff. A sign of things to come I hope.

Axeldonia, Lex Caledonia

Nuremgard wrote:The SNP is now the second largest party in the UK by membership, overtaking even the Tories. Moreover, a recent poll has shown that a majority of Scots would vote for independence in the event of Brexit.

Incredible stuff. A sign of things to come I hope.

S O O N

Nuremgard, Axeldonia

Lex Caledonia wrote:S O O N

Fingers crossed!

Axeldonia

Lex Caledonia wrote:S O O N

Are you up early or up late?

Axeldonia

Nuremgard wrote:Are you up early or up late?

Sleeping schedules f*cked so I’m trying to reset it :L

Nuremgard, Axeldonia, Anglia Imperium

Bearlong wrote:MESSAGE FROM THE OFFICE OF THE SPEAKER

B024 has now moved to third reading vote.

http://thecoffincofn.boards.net/thread/104/b024-border-security-act

http://thecoffincofn.boards.net/thread/104/b024-border-security-act

http://thecoffincofn.boards.net/thread/104/b024-border-security-act

http://thecoffincofn.boards.net/thread/104/b024-border-security-act

Why have the same limk four times?

Oh hey The Society For Black Sheep! Welcome to the CoFN. (This is Cesorion)

Sheep is one of the best people you'll meet

Penguania And Antarctica

Russkov Soviet wrote:Well.... this is turning out bloodier than expected. I found some warfare sim and decided to run a conflict between Spanelsko and myself. Sadly, I lost the link and can't remember what the site was called. I've got to stop doing this stuff at 3 am. But... I did get some figures written down.

(Incomplete figures)

The war has been going on for roughly three weeks at this point. We both share similar "no retreat" tactics which has led to hand to hand fighting of a ferocity not seen since the World Wars. Casualties are estimated to be at around 64,000 with most of the conflict being waged on land. Given the way each side fights, the war will not be 'won' by either side, but will result in the decimation of each sides armed forces.

So... on that note... I'm making a new flag and name for that eventual date.

Russkov Soviet wrote:Well... I wasn't able to find the site, so I did something unnecessarily complicated and harder than needed. I took a look at both of our armies, from the soldiers to the vehicles, and attempted to compare them one-by-one. Unfortunately, Spanelsko hasn't specified models, years, or other factors that Kalaron would want... So, I had to go off of 1970's to 2000's vehicles. The results are not accurate in any sense, but match the earlier post. This war is going to be a draw, but only due to the great cost it will bring on the both of us.

OOC

I forgot to add dates to my weapons and other stuff XD But yeah 1970s to 2000s is about right.

IC

It is yet another glorious day, bolsheviks are dying, civilians are screaming, cities are burning, and soon winter will come. I am sure that our goal of destabilisation of the new USSR will be an overall success, this might even become in history books as the only partial victory Spanelsko ever achieved.... i am so happy.... yet so empty.... may god of chaos protect us all.

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia

Anglia Imperium wrote:Why have the same limk four times?
Bureaucracy.

Jaslandia, Gualimole

Anglia Imperium wrote:Why have the same limk four times?

My high school statistics teacher would often repeat things four times so that people understood. You lot aren't the brightest bunch, so I've chosen to apply that idea here.

Bearlong wrote:My high school statistics teacher would often repeat things four times so that people understood. You lot aren't the brightest bunch, so I've chosen to apply that idea here.

I had a teacher who did that but I think it was because he had Tourette's or something, not intentional

Bearlong, Penguania And Antarctica

Making pro-business, privatising, tax-cutting measures hurts me. Especially because my poor's income is being drastically slashed (and my taxes have barely shifted.)

But Nuremgard has a Conservative government. And the country must live within its means, tighten its belt, all in it together *insert meaningless BS Con line here*

Bearlong, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova

Spanelsko,

In order to better calculate the potential cost and casualties of this conflict you've started, I need the numbers of the troops you deployed to the front lines. Please keep true to the figures you posted in your factbook and I'll do the same by using the RP numbers Kalaron laid down before he left.

And to those monitoring the conflict, I have a question. Since the numbers (so far) are pointing to a bloody and devastating draw... What are two things we should do as a result of this? {For example... I have to pull my troops out of Sodor and cease naval operations in the English Channel, at least for a time. While Span has to cease operations somewhere and... I dunno.}

-(Current casualties have reached an alarming 85,000 for both sides combined.)-

Hey everyone.

Russkov Soviet, Penguania And Antarctica

Russkov Soviet wrote:Spanelsko,

In order to better calculate the potential cost and casualties of this conflict you've started, I need the numbers of the troops you deployed to the front lines. Please keep true to the figures you posted in your factbook and I'll do the same by using the RP numbers Kalaron laid down before he left.

And to those monitoring the conflict, I have a question. Since the numbers (so far) are pointing to a bloody and devastating draw... What are two things we should do as a result of this? {For example... I have to pull my troops out of Sodor and cease naval operations in the English Channel, at least for a time. While Span has to cease operations somewhere and... I dunno.}

-(Current casualties have reached an alarming 85,000 for both sides combined.)-

Considering my numbers and groups around 15000 militia and insurgents through out your nation, i was thinking of a naval landing later depending on situation, either striking from the Black Sea or opening a Siberian Volga Front, however for SVF to happen it would require fall of Crimea and break trough near Caucasus towards Volga and the SWA. Majority of my forces are back home, so it is more then likely that those insurgency groups will be wiped out soon, also just because i said 15K militia it doesn't mean anywhere near each other, as each of the groups named before were spread out with my main force in Moscow, of course each of the groups have their own ´´cells´´ and regions of activity. But if you want a general idea: Siberian White Army: Western Siberia and near Ural 3K (moving west)

Fascist Front of Greater Russia: Caucasus and near eastern Ukraine 4K

Euroasian National Bolshevik Brotherhood: Lenigrad, Northern Russia and near Moscow areas 6K

Legion of the Great Horde: Moscow and Crimea (ethnic Iberians) 2K

Random info: I adjusted the numbers of militia according to losses of life, so it would be more fair.

Also random question from me: You know i am not in any RP right? :p I made the Moscow event for fun since i was bored and didn't expect you to continue it :) But i am fine with doing this as long as its alright with you.

Russkov Soviet

Spanelsko wrote:Considering my numbers and groups around 15000 militia and insurgents through out your nation, i was thinking of a naval landing later depending on situation, either striking from the Black Sea or opening a Siberian Volga Front, however for SVF to happen it would require fall of Crimea and break trough near Caucasus towards Volga and the SWA. Majority of my forces are back home, so it is more then likely that those insurgency groups will be wiped out soon, also just because i said 15K militia it doesn't mean anywhere near each other, as each of the groups named before were spread out with my main force in Moscow, of course each of the groups have their own ´´cells´´ and regions of activity. But if you want a general idea: Siberian White Army: Western Siberia and near Ural 3K (moving west)

Fascist Front of Greater Russia: Caucasus and near eastern Ukraine 4K

Euroasian National Bolshevik Brotherhood: Lenigrad, Northern Russia and near Moscow areas 6K

Legion of the Great Horde: Moscow and Crimea (ethnic Iberians) 2K

Random info: I adjusted the numbers of militia according to losses of life, so it would be more fair.

Also random question from me: You know i am not in any RP right? :p I made the Moscow event for fun since i was bored and didn't expect you to continue it :) But i am fine with doing this as long as its alright with you.

Got it. I'll crank some figures tonight. And to answer your question: I know your not in an RP. I meant RP numbers just so I wouldn't have to calculate a 3 mil on 6 mil fight or something, considering that is a bit excessive. And I enjoy this. I mean... you bombed Moscow (Mareskov in my country).

Spanelsko

<<< Chooses the option to give citizens a tax cut.

Taxes don't budge.

Why wont you cut my taxes, NS?!

Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova

Nuremgard wrote:<<< Chooses the option to give citizens a tax cut.

Taxes don't budge.

Why wont you cut my taxes, NS?!

Maybe it said taxis and not taxes? :P

Nuremgard, Lex Caledonia, Mercunova

Russkov Soviet wrote:Got it. I'll crank some figures tonight. And to answer your question: I know your not in an RP. I meant RP numbers just so I wouldn't have to calculate a 3 mil on 6 mil fight or something, considering that is a bit excessive. And I enjoy this. I mean... you bombed Moscow (Mareskov in my country).

ok, just wanted to make sure, hopefully this ´´little´´ event will be fun until its end.

Mareskov? Sorry but can i ask? Where are you from? I always believed that you were American.

random fact: In my language its ´´Moskva´´

Russkov Soviet

Nuremgard wrote:Making pro-business, privatising, tax-cutting measures hurts me. Especially because my poor's income is being drastically slashed (and my taxes have barely shifted.)

But Nuremgard has a Conservative government. And the country must live within its means, tighten its belt, all in it together *insert meaningless BS Con line here*

They’re simply asking for more than what we can afford right now.

Continental Commonwealths wrote:They’re simply asking for more than what we can afford right now.

Lucky for the PM he is sexy.

Spanelsko wrote:ok, just wanted to make sure, hopefully this ´´little´´ event will be fun until its end.

Mareskov? Sorry but can i ask? Where are you from? I always believed that you were American.

random fact: In my language its ´´Moskva´´

Apologies. I'm from the USofA. I generally stick to character on here, hence my NS nation being 'my nation'.

Spanelsko

Russkov Soviet wrote:Apologies. I'm from the USofA. I generally stick to character on here, hence my NS nation being 'my nation'.

this explains a lot, np sometimes happens to me too.

Russkov Soviet

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