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Friedensreich wrote:It seems like the ITF is largely decentralized then, which is a good thing in my mind. So these donations are entirely voluntary?

Yep, and it's very democratic, well at least post-Khutonga Incident. *glares*

Belmora wrote:Terra forming and geo-altering, which is what causes the cataclysm. That's what those God forsaken pagans get :P

Uh oh...I think I might've went a little farther than that...

Tserra wrote:Now I would hope if you attacked Magnatronia, that even Andromitus would come to his defense, but I cannot speak for Andromitus. I think you understand my point.

Hmmm, I'd send some military aid drones, we might miss a few targets...but they'd be there :3

Kivasek wrote:I believe that in the interest of the people inside the Confederacy, the Judges shall open the meeting to everyone to jump in today and today only in an attempt to boost numbers. Nations with low civil liberties are encouraged to come so there can be diversity as well as those with high civil liberties. Please, do try and help this region reach hegemony with your participation.

Really surprised so few people are here < http://s15.zetaboards.com/COFN/topic/10194411/1/#new >

Not even [nation=short]Magnatronia[/nation]? Seriously?

Andromitus wrote:Really surprised so few people are here < http://s15.zetaboards.com/COFN/topic/10194411/1/#new >

Not even [nation=short]Magnatronia[/nation]? Seriously?

there isn't much activity there so don't blame us if it didn't appear on our radars.

Russian Fedration

Andromitus wrote:-snip-

Btw, I posted on the Grand Debut RP which has something to do with you.

Russian Fedration

Andromitus wrote:Yep, and it's very democratic, well at least post-Khutonga Incident. *glares*

Uh oh...I think I might've went a little farther than that...

Hmmm, I'd send some military aid drones, we might miss a few targets...but they'd be there :3

Really surprised so few people are here < http://s15.zetaboards.com/COFN/topic/10194411/1/#new >

Not even [nation=short]Magnatronia[/nation]? Seriously?

We use the CG region for this all now. I would advise posting it there

Russian Fedration

Post self-deleted by Andromitus.

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:Btw, I posted on the Grand Debut RP which has something to do with you.

Why would he wear that XD OMG thats a whole new level of stüpíd

Baxten wrote:We use the CG region for this all now. I would advise posting it there

But why tho

Andromitus wrote:Why would he wear that XD OMG thats a whole new level of stüpíd

But why tho

Andy, come to the Discord. It's not good.

[spoiler=Today is May 15 and today are:]

Today is May 15 and today are:

- Accounting Day

- Aoi Matsuri (Kyoto, Japan)

- Argei (Ancient Rome)

- Army Day (Slovenia)

- Constituent Assembly Day (Lithuania)

- Dinosaur Day

- Discovery Day (Cayman Islands)

- Europe Day (Moldova)

- Family Day (Moldova, Mongolia)

- Feast Day of St Isidore (Madrid, Spain)

- Hyperemisis Gravidarum Awareness Day

- Independence Day (Paraguay)

- International Conscientious Objectors Day

- International Day of Families

- International Kangaroo Care Awareness Day

- International MPS Awareness Day

- La Corsa dei Ceri (Gubbio, Italy)

- Mercuralia (Roman Empire)

- Mother's Day (Paraguay)

- National Chocolate Chip Day (United States)

- National Nylon Stocking Day (United States)

- Peace Officers Memorial Day (United States)

- Republic Day (Lithuania)

- Stepmother's Day

- Straw Hat Day

- Tuberous Sclerosis Complex (TSC) Global Awareness Day

- Teachers' Day (Colombia, Mexico, South Korea)

- Tree Day (India)

[/spoiler]

[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 495 BC – A newly constructed temple in honour of the god Mercury was dedicated in ancient Rome on the Circus Maximus, between the Aventine and Palatine hills. To spite the senate and the consuls, the people awarded the dedication to a senior military officer, Marcus Laetorius.

- 221 – Liu Bei, Chinese warlord, proclaims himself emperor of Shu Han, the successor of the Han dynasty.

- 392 – Emperor Valentinian II is assassinated while advancing into Gaul against the Frankish usurper Arbogast. He is found hanging in his residence at Vienne.

- 589 – King Authari marries Theodelinda, daughter of the Bavarian duke Garibald I. A Catholic, she has great influence among the Lombard nobility.

- 908 – The three-year-old Constantine VII, the son of Emperor Leo VI the Wise, is crowned as co-emperor of the Byzantine Empire by Patriarch Euthymius I at Constantinople.

- 1252 – Pope Innocent IV issues the papal bull ad extirpanda, which authorizes, but also limits, the torture of heretics in the Medieval Inquisition.

- 1525 – Insurgent peasants led by Anabaptist pastor Thomas Müntzer were defeated at the Battle of Frankenhausen, ending the German Peasants' War in the Holy Roman Empire.

- 1536 – Anne Boleyn, Queen of England, stands trial in London on charges of treason, adultery and incest; she is condemned to death by a specially-selected jury.

- 1567 – Mary, Queen of Scots marries James Hepburn, 4th Earl of Bothwell, her third husband.

- 1618 – Johannes Kepler confirms his previously rejected discovery of the third law of planetary motion (he first discovered it on March 8 but soon rejected the idea after some initial calculations were made).

- 1648 – The Treaty of Westphalia is signed.

- 1718 – James Puckle, a London lawyer, patents the world's first machine gun.

- 1730 – Robert Walpole effectively became the first Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.

- 1776 – American Revolution: The Fifth Virginia Convention instructs its Continental Congress delegation to propose a resolution of independence from Great Britain, paving the way for the United States Declaration of Independence.

- 1791 – French Revolution: Maximilien Robespierre proposes the Self-denying Ordinance.

- 1792 – War of the First Coalition: France declares war on Kingdom of Sardinia.

- 1793 – Diego Marín Aguilera flies a glider for "about 360 meters", at a height of 5–6 meters, during one of the first attempted manned flights.

- 1796 – War of the First Coalition: Napoleon enters Milan in triumph.

- 1800 – King George III of the United Kingdom survives an assassination attempt by James Hadfield, who is later acquitted by reason of insanity.

- 1811 – Paraguay declares independence from Spain.

- 1817 – Opening of the first private mental health hospital in the United States, the Asylum for the Relief of Persons Deprived of the Use of Their Reason (now Friends Hospital, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania).

- 1836 – Francis Baily observes "Baily's beads" during an annular eclipse.

- 1848 – Serfdom is abolished in the Habsburg Galicia, as a result of the 1848 revolutions. The rest of monarchy followed later in the year.

- 1849 – Troops of the Two Sicilies take Palermo and crush the republican government of Sicily.

- 1850 – The Bloody Island massacre takes place in Lake County, California, in which a large number of Pomo Indians are slaughtered by a regiment of the United States Cavalry.

- 1850 – The Arana–Southern Treaty is ratified, ending "the existing differences" between Great Britain and Argentina.

- 1851 – The first Australian gold rush is proclaimed, although the discovery had been made three months earlier.

- 1858 – Opening of the present Royal Opera House in Covent Garden, London.

- 1862 – President Abraham Lincoln signs a bill into law creating the United States Bureau of Agriculture. It is later renamed the United States Department of Agriculture.

- 1864 – American Civil War: Battle of New Market, Virginia: Students from the Virginia Military Institute fight alongside the Confederate Army to force Union General Franz Sigel out of the Shenandoah Valley.

- 1869 – Women's suffrage: In New York, Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton form the National Woman Suffrage Association.

- 1891 – Pope Leo XIII defends workers' rights and property rights in the encyclical Rerum novarum, the beginning of modern Catholic social teaching.

- 1904 – Russo-Japanese War: The Russian minelayer Amur lays a minefield about 15 miles off Port Arthur and sinks Japan's battleships Hatsuse, 15,000 tons, with 496 crew and Yashima.

- 1905 – Las Vegas is founded when 110 acres (0.45 km2), in what later would become downtown, are auctioned off.

- 1911 – In Standard Oil Co. of New Jersey v. United States, the United States Supreme Court declares Standard Oil to be an "unreasonable" monopoly under the Sherman Antitrust Act and orders the company to be broken up.

- 1911 – More than 300 Chinese immigrants are killed in the Torreón massacre when the forces of the Mexican Revolution led by Emilio Madero take the city of Torreón from the Federales.

- 1919 – The Winnipeg general strike begins. By 11:00, almost the whole working population of Winnipeg had walked off the job.

- 1919 – Greek occupation of Smyrna. During the occupation, the Greek army kills or wounds 350 Turks; those responsible are punished by Greek commander Aristides Stergiades.

- 1925 – Al-Insaniyyah, the first Arabic communist newspaper, is founded.

- 1928 – Walt Disney character Mickey Mouse premieres in his first cartoon, "Plane Crazy".

- 1929 – A fire at the Cleveland Clinic in Cleveland, Ohio kills 123.

- 1932 – In an attempted coup d'état, the Prime Minister of Japan Inukai Tsuyoshi is assassinated.

- 1933 – All military aviation organizations within, or under the control of, the RLM of Germany were officially merged in a covert manner, to form its Wehrmacht military's air arm, the Luftwaffe.

- 1934 – Kārlis Ulmanis establishes an authoritarian government in Latvia.

- 1940 – USS Sailfish is recommissioned. It was originally the USS Squalus.

- 1940 – World War II: After fierce fighting, the poorly trained and equipped Dutch troops surrender to Germany, marking the beginning of five years of occupation.

- 1940 – McDonald's opens its first restaurant in San Bernardino, California.

- 1941 – First flight of the Gloster E.28/39 the first British and Allied jet aircraft.

- 1941 – Joe DiMaggio begins a 56-game hitting streak.

- 1942 – World War II: In the United States, a bill creating the Women's Army Auxiliary Corps (WAAC) is signed into law.

- 1943 – Joseph Stalin dissolves the Comintern (or Third International).

- 1945 – World War II: The Battle of Poljana, the final skirmish in Europe is fought near Prevalje, Slovenia.

- 1948 – Following the expiration of The British Mandate for Palestine, the Kingdom of Egypt, Transjordan, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Saudi Arabia invade Israel thus starting the 1948 Arab–Israeli War.

- 1957 – At Malden Island in the Pacific Ocean, Britain tests its first hydrogen bomb in Operation Grapple.

- 1958 – The Soviet Union launches Sputnik 3.

- 1960 – The Soviet Union launches Sputnik 4.

- 1963 – Project Mercury: The launch of the final Mercury mission, Mercury-Atlas 9 with astronaut Gordon Cooper on board. He becomes the first American to spend more than a day in space, and the last American to go into space alone.

- 1966 – After a policy dispute, Prime Minister Nguyễn Cao Kỳ of South Vietnam's ruling junta launches a military attack on the forces of General Tôn Thất Đính, forcing him to abandon his command.

- 1969 – People's Park: California Governor Ronald Reagan has an impromptu student park owned by the University of California at Berkeley fenced off from student anti-war protestors, sparking a riot.

- 1970 – President Richard Nixon appoints Anna Mae Hays and Elizabeth P. Hoisington the first female United States Army generals.

- 1970 – Philip Lafayette Gibbs and James Earl Green are killed at Jackson State University by police during student protests.

- 1972 – Ryukyu Islands, under U.S. military governance since its conquest in 1945, hand over to Japanese control.

- 1972 – In Laurel, Maryland, Arthur Bremer shoots and paralyzes Alabama Governor George Wallace while he is campaigning to become President.

- 1974 – Ma'alot massacre: Members of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine attack and take hostages at an Israeli school; a total of 31 people are killed, including 22 schoolchildren.

- 1987 – The Soviet Union launches the Polyus prototype orbital weapons platform. It fails to reach orbit.

- 1988 – Soviet war in Afghanistan: After more than eight years of fighting, the Soviet Army begins to withdraw 115,000 troops from Afghanistan.

- 1991 – Édith Cresson becomes France's first female premier.

- 1997 – The United States government acknowledges the existence of the "Secret War" in Laos and dedicates the Laos Memorial in honor of Hmong and other "Secret War" veterans.

- 2004 – Arsenal F.C. go an entire league campaign unbeaten in the English First Division, joining Preston North End F.C with the right to claim the title The Invincibles

- 2008 – California becomes the second U.S. state after Massachusetts in 2004 to legalize same-sex marriage after the state's own Supreme Court rules a previous ban unconstitutional.

- 2010 – Jessica Watson becomes the youngest person to sail, non-stop and unassisted around the world solo.

- 2013 – An upsurge in violence in Iraq leaves more than 389 people dead over three days.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1567 – Claudio Monteverdi, Italian priest and composer

- 1773 – Klemens von Metternich, German-Austrian politician, 1st State Chancellor of the Austrian Empire

- 1856 – Matthias Zurbriggen, Swiss mountaineer

- 1856 – L. Frank Baum, American novelist

- 1859 – Pierre Curie, French physicist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1862 – Arthur Schnitzler, Austrian author and playwright

- 1903 – Maria Reiche, German mathematician and archaeologist

- 1911 – Max Frisch, Swiss playwright and novelist

- 1926 – Peter Shaffer, English playwright and screenwriter

- 1937 – Madeleine Albright, Czech-American politician and diplomat, 64th United States Secretary of State

- 1948 – Brian Eno, English singer-songwriter, keyboard player, and producer

- 1953 – Mike Oldfield, English-Irish singer-songwriter, guitarist, and producer

- 1981 – Patrice Evra, French footballer

- 1987 – Andy Murray, Scottish tennis player

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Quote of the day

The opinion which other people have of you is their problem, not yours.

- Elisabeth Kubler-Ross -

Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.

Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Continental Commonwealths, Andromitus, The United Providences Of Perland

Andromitus wrote:Why would he wear that XD OMG thats a whole new level of stüpíd

Its gonna have a symbolic reason later on.

Andromitus

All this discussion of alliances leads me to want to remind alliance members that being an observer of HOPE is always an option.

Although peace is always a cool option, ovserving the neutrality of those nations strictly committed to peace is pretty cool, too.

Jaslandia, Belmora, Penguania And Antarctica

Continental Commonwealths wrote:All this discussion of alliances leads me to want to remind alliance members that being an observer of HOPE is always an option.

Although peace is always a cool option, ovserving the neutrality of those nations strictly committed to peace is pretty cool, too.

Confederacy Wars: Episode IV - A new HOPE.

:)

Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Belmora, Continental Commonwealths, The United Providences Of Perland

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Confederacy Wars: Episode IV - A new HOPE.

:)

Confederacy Wars: Episode V - The Theocracy Strikes Back >:D

Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Belmora, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Confederacy Wars: Episode IV - A new HOPE.

:)

I was trying to think of a way to work "HOPE" into something witty! I should have known that Peng would have been on the ball.

Penguania And Antarctica

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I was trying to think of a way to work "HOPE" into something witty! I should have known that Peng would have been on the ball.

Yours wasn't bad.

Jaslandia

Baxten wrote:Andy, come to the Discord. It's not good.

Baxten, have you been getting my TGs?

Penguania And Antarctica

Post self-deleted by Magnatronia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLCKF693ks4 Friedensreich

I was gonna post a small rant about my frustration with politics and pretentious ideologies like far-leftism and 'alternative' rightism, but then NS decided to try my patience and delete my post because of "sh*t". Honestly, this is the same reason why I hate having to post RPs on the forums.

Merlinton, Russian Fedration, Aghrabia, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

Magnatronia wrote:I was gonna post a small rant about my frustration with politics and pretentious ideologies like far-leftism and 'alternative' rightism, but then NS decided to try my patience and delete my post because of "sh*t". Honestly, this is the same reason why I hate having to post RPs on the forums.

Calm mag. The trick is to use moderate debate and not full fvck you rant mode.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Magnatronia wrote:I was gonna post a small rant about my frustration with politics and pretentious ideologies like far-leftism and 'alternative' rightism, but then NS decided to try my patience and delete my post because of "sh*t". Honestly, this is the same reason why I hate having to post RPs on the forums.

I feel ya .

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:Calm mag. The trick is to use moderate debate and not full fvck you rant mode.

What do you mean? Like debate IC or in general? Because IC, that's what frustrates me. It's basically forcing a character, who is by definition rated R, to be PG, metaphorically speaking. Like, if I wanna say something like F*ck or sh*t, I wanna say it without having to censor myself and look like an idiot. I prefer the forums since it doesn't force me to censor my words.

Russian Fedration, Aghrabia

Russian Fedration wrote:I feel ya .

By the way, I'm gonna respond to your telegram eventually. Don't think I forgot about you. I just have a ridiculous amount of things to do this week. I need to burn some CDs, finish an online coruse I shoulda been doing over the course of several weeks, finish a powerpoint based on THAT course, then make sure I didn't forget to do any surveys or paperwork before I graduate. That basically applies to everything here too: if I don't respond, it's because I'm busy.

Russian Fedration, Aghrabia

Magnatronia wrote:By the way, I'm gonna respond to your telegram eventually. Don't think I forgot about you. I just have a ridiculous amount of things to do this week. I need to burn some CDs, finish an online coruse I shoulda been doing over the course of several weeks, finish a powerpoint based on THAT course, then make sure I didn't forget to do any surveys or paperwork before I graduate. That basically applies to everything here too: if I don't respond, it's because I'm busy.

Lol no i understand . Ive been running around Kinda Wacky too lately so i can understand .

Hey Procrastination is a Skill, i know because ive used it too lol .

Its ok i understand i did that too last year when i Graduated

Yukona wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLCKF693ks4 Friedensreich

http://rs1128.pbsrc.com/albums/m493/savage022/FB_IMG_1464797689019_zpse3ngtkck.jpg?w=480&h=480&fit=clip

Russian Fedration wrote:Lol no i understand . Ive been running around Kinda Wacky too lately so i can understand .

Hey Procrastination is a Skill, i know because ive used it too lol .

Its ok i understand i did that too last year when i Graduated

Ah, high school. What a shìtshow! I'm glad I'm over and done with it forever.

Russian Fedration

Friedensreich wrote:http://rs1128.pbsrc.com/albums/m493/savage022/FB_IMG_1464797689019_zpse3ngtkck.jpg?w=480&h=480&fit=clip

Ay lmao

Greetings fellow Nations of the Confederacy

Following a democratic referendum, the people of Sulania have decided, unilaterally, to leave the Reich and form an independent socialist republic, under provisional Premier Joshua Varen. A formal constitution is in the works to establish the formal and long-standing government of the new Republic. With the rise of the new order, Sulania shall submit its formal secession from the Reich, and a peaceful dissolution of our political bonds will occur in haste.

In conjunction with this, the newly formed United Socialist Republic of Sulania will be dissolving its ties to the International Trade Federation. In light of its new path towards a pure socialist future, as well as the news of a former conspiracy to have our nation invaded in a false war to have us capitulate back into the status quo. We are now seeking membership and protection from the USCS, as well as our Socialist comrades in Unfallious. While we hope this protection is unneeded, the people of Sulania will actively protect both its sovereignty and its future.

In solidarity with the People,

Premier Joshua Varen.

Russian Fedration, The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Vista Major, The Vidnoye, Kivasek, Andromitus, Kalaron, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Yukona

Friedensreich wrote:Ah, high school. What a shìtshow! I'm glad I'm over and done with it forever.

Your Telling me lol AMEN!

Guten Morgen

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

Russian Fedration wrote:

Your Telling me lol AMEN!

>quietly appreciating high school

Russian Fedration, Jaslandia

Vista Major wrote:>quietly appreciating high school

i agree theres things i miss and others i dont.

IDK its bitter sweet

Vista Major

Sulania wrote:Greetings fellow Nations of the Confederacy

Following a democratic

oh f*ck, this is going to be fun xD

Russian Fedration, Jaslandia, Vista Major, The United Providences Of Perland, Magnatronia

Sulania wrote:Greetings fellow Nations of the Confederacy

Following a democratic referendum, the people of Sulania have decided, unilaterally, to leave the Reich and form an independent socialist republic, under provisional Premier Joshua Varen. A formal constitution is in the works to establish the formal and long-standing government of the new Republic. With the rise of the new order, Sulania shall submit its formal secession from the Reich, and a peaceful dissolution of our political bonds will occur in haste.

In conjunction with this, the newly formed United Socialist Republic of Sulania will be dissolving its ties to the International Trade Federation. In light of its new path towards a pure socialist future, as well as the news of a former conspiracy to have our nation invaded in a false war to have us capitulate back into the status quo. We are now seeking membership and protection from the USCS, as well as our Socialist comrades in Unfallious. While we hope this protection is unneeded, the people of Sulania will actively protect both its sovereignty and its future.

In solidarity with the People,

Premier Joshua Varen.

May the ITF rest in pepperonis.

Russian Fedration, The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Vista Major, Friedensreich, The United Providences Of Perland, Magnatronia

[spoiler]

Sulania wrote:Greetings fellow Nations of the Confederacy

Following a democratic referendum, the people of Sulania have decided, unilaterally, to leave the Reich and form an independent socialist republic, under provisional Premier Joshua Varen. A formal constitution is in the works to establish the formal and long-standing government of the new Republic. With the rise of the new order, Sulania shall submit its formal secession from the Reich, and a peaceful dissolution of our political bonds will occur in haste.

In conjunction with this, the newly formed United Socialist Republic of Sulania will be dissolving its ties to the International Trade Federation. In light of its new path towards a pure socialist future, as well as the news of a former conspiracy to have our nation invaded in a false war to have us capitulate back into the status quo. We are now seeking membership and protection from the USCS, as well as our Socialist comrades in Unfallious. While we hope this protection is unneeded, the people of Sulania will actively protect both its sovereignty and its future.

In solidarity with the People,

Premier Joshua Varen.

[/spoiler] Perland denounces this as socialist extremism and will not support or endorse communist behavior.

Sulania wrote:Greetings fellow Nations of the Confederacy

Following a democratic referendum, the people of Sulania have decided, unilaterally, to leave the Reich and form an independent socialist republic, under provisional Premier Joshua Varen. A formal constitution is in the works to establish the formal and long-standing government of the new Republic. With the rise of the new order, Sulania shall submit its formal secession from the Reich, and a peaceful dissolution of our political bonds will occur in haste.

In conjunction with this, the newly formed United Socialist Republic of Sulania will be dissolving its ties to the International Trade Federation. In light of its new path towards a pure socialist future, as well as the news of a former conspiracy to have our nation invaded in a false war to have us capitulate back into the status quo. We are now seeking membership and protection from the USCS, as well as our Socialist comrades in Unfallious. While we hope this protection is unneeded, the people of Sulania will actively protect both its sovereignty and its future.

In solidarity with the People,

Premier Joshua Varen.

WOOHOO!

Friedensreich, Andromitus

Post self-deleted by Kivasek.

There must be some free market to succeed in freedom.

Sulania wrote:Greetings fellow Nations of the Confederacy

Following a democratic referendum, the people of Sulania have decided, unilaterally, to leave the Reich and form an independent socialist republic, under provisional Premier Joshua Varen. A formal constitution is in the works to establish the formal and long-standing government of the new Republic. With the rise of the new order, Sulania shall submit its formal secession from the Reich, and a peaceful dissolution of our political bonds will occur in haste.

In conjunction with this, the newly formed United Socialist Republic of Sulania will be dissolving its ties to the International Trade Federation. In light of its new path towards a pure socialist future, as well as the news of a former conspiracy to have our nation invaded in a false war to have us capitulate back into the status quo. We are now seeking membership and protection from the USCS, as well as our Socialist comrades in Unfallious. While we hope this protection is unneeded, the people of Sulania will actively protect both its sovereignty and its future.

In solidarity with the People,

Premier Joshua Varen.

Glory to the People and May Self Determination Thrive On!

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:There must be some free market to succeed in freedom.

"Freedom requires free market! Meanwhile, I will employ my workers to show up to work everyday and if they question my authority over this company, they get fired."

Russian Fedration

Kivasek wrote:"Freedom requires free market! Meanwhile, I will employ my workers to show up to work everyday and if they question my authority over this company, they get fired."

Yes, that is how employment works. It you don't like companies like that, don't WILLINGLY, apply to them.

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:Yes, that is how employment works. It you don't like companies like that, don't WILLINGLY, apply to them.

People should not be able to force others around without question. We as people are not cattle.

Russian Fedration, Friedensreich

The UK will be creating a forum thread where all our diplomatic alliances and partners will be lined up. Please contact us if you wanna be one of our partners! :)

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:Yes, that is how employment works. It you don't like companies like that, don't WILLINGLY, apply to them.

Sooooo.... wait, employment is voluntary? I thought it was necessary for survival, which makes it mandatory.

Russian Fedration, Andromitus

Kivasek wrote:People should not be able to force others around without question. We as people are not cattle.

Agreed

Kivasek

Kivasek wrote:"Freedom requires free market! Meanwhile, I will employ my workers to show up to work everyday and if they question my authority over this company, they get fired."

"Freedom without socialism is privilege and injustice; socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality." -Bakunin

Russian Fedration, The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Kivasek, Andromitus

Kivasek wrote:People should not be able to force others around without question. We as people are not cattle.

They can pick a company that isn't that forceful though.

Friedensreich wrote:Sooooo.... wait, employment is voluntary? I thought it was necessary for survival, which makes it mandatory.

You can employ yourself, or work at a nice government job where your rights are held to a higher standard.

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:They can pick a company that isn't that forceful though.

Thats Honestly Disgusting .

you just Gave me a Idea for my Constitution thanks .

Ill never Understand the Attraction to Full Capitalism

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:You can employ yourself, or work at a nice government job where your rights are held to a higher standard.

Hmmm.... do you admit that an employee and their employer are not on equal standing in the workplace and the discussion table?

As long as it isn't for some capitalist, I consider it fine by me. Though honestly I'd prefer it if everyone was self-employed.

Russian Fedration wrote:Thats Honestly Disgusting .

you just Gave me a Idea for my Constitution thanks .

Ill never Understand the Attraction to Full Capitalism

I don't have full capitalism lol. Perland is democratic socialist. My biggest usage of government funds id towards Education, healthcare, and welfare. While we have private industry, it's still regulated well, like capitalism should be. But how is being able to be fired for going against your boss any different then being forced to work for the state?

Russian Fedration

Russian Fedration wrote:Thats Honestly Disgusting .

you just Gave me a Idea for my Constitution thanks .

Ill never Understand the Attraction to Full Capitalism

I don't either. It's unstable, unpredictable, and leads to huge divisions in wealth. Oh, and corruption.

Russian Fedration, Kivasek

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:I don't have full capitalism lol. Perland is democratic socialist. My biggest usage of government funds id towards Education, healthcare, and welfare. While we have private industry, it's still regulated well, like capitalism should be. But how is being able to be fired for going against your boss any different then being forced to work for the state?

That is Social Democracy, not DemSoc :P

Democratic Socialism is where the people own the means of producing and distributing goods, while Social Democracy is basically an attempt at making capitalism humane.

Russian Fedration, The United Providences Of Perland

Friedensreich wrote:I don't either. It's unstable, unpredictable, and leads to huge divisions in wealth. Oh, and corruption.

Once again, if it is regulated and just not balls to the walls corporate state, it can work well. My nation has almost no poor wealthy income gap, and has extremely low corruption. As long as you make sure people's rights are upheld and that the corporations don't buy the government, it's fine.

Friedensreich wrote:I don't either. It's unstable, unpredictable, and leads to huge divisions in wealth. Oh, and corruption.

Massive Corruption.

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:I don't have full capitalism lol. Perland is democratic socialist. My biggest usage of government funds id towards Education, healthcare, and welfare. While we have private industry, it's still regulated well, like capitalism should be. But how is being able to be fired for going against your boss any different then being forced to work for the state?

Private Industry is Competently Illegal in the Federation . the DES (Department of Economic Stability) Agents work to Step on Any Trace of it . I too send my money towards Education,welfare and Healthcare but we dont make our people Slaves at the Mercy of there over lords...Oh execuse me "Bosses"

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:Once again, if it is regulated and just not balls to the walls corporate state, it can work well. My nation has almost no poor wealthy income gap, and has extremely low corruption. As long as you make sure people's rights are upheld and that the corporations don't buy the government, it's fine.

NS is a poor indicator of reality, considering that you can be an anarchy with incredibly long lifespans.

Jaslandia, The Vidnoye, Friedensreich

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:Once again, if it is regulated and just not balls to the walls corporate state, it can work well. My nation has almost no poor wealthy income gap, and has extremely low corruption. As long as you make sure people's rights are upheld and that the corporations don't buy the government, it's fine.

Yeah, no, that is not enough in my eyes. In all honesty, I do not understand why Marx, Engels, and the First International included Social Democrats in the Manifesto.

You're trying to make an inhumane and unpredictable system humane. How do you curb the wealth gap? Taxation?

Russian Fedration

Kalaron wrote:NS is a poor indicator of reality, considering that you can be an anarchy with incredibly long lifespans.

Dur, but it helps to simulate my point. As long as you regulate capitalism and don't make the system to socialist or to capitalist it could work well.

Russian Fedration wrote:Massive Corruption.

Private Industry is Competently Illegal in the Federation . the DES (Department of Economic Stability) Agents work to Step on Any Trace of it . I too send my money towards Education,welfare and Healthcare but we dont make our people Slaves at the Mercy of there over lords...Oh execuse me "Bosses"

Do you force people to work for your state industries? I mean, I like your spending priorities but still, there is no difference between enslaving yourself to a boss or being "lotteried" to work at a government service.

Russian Fedration

Friedensreich wrote:Sooooo.... wait, employment is voluntary? I thought it was necessary for survival, which makes it mandatory.

Yup

Russian Fedration wrote:

Private Industry is Competently Illegal in the Federation . the DES (Department of Economic Stability) Agents work to Step on Any Trace of it . I too send my money towards Education,welfare and Healthcare but we dont make our people Slaves at the Mercy of there over lords...Oh execuse me "Bosses"

How do jobs work in your nation? For example, do people choose or do you choose for them? Is having a job necessary for survival?

Russian Fedration, The United Providences Of Perland

Andromitus wrote:YupHow do jobs work in your nation? For example, do people choose or do you choose for them? Is having a job necessary for survival?

*Master-Slave Dialectic instensifies*

Jaslandia

Russian Fedration wrote:

i agree theres things i miss and others i dont.

IDK its bitter sweet

Alas, tis maybe so

Russian Fedration

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:Dur, but it helps to simulate my point. As long as you regulate capitalism and don't make the system to socialist or to capitalist it could work well.

It really doesn't.

I can say that water's surface tension could deflect a bullet, but if my simulation willingly screams that it doesn't follow the laws of physics then it's a moot point to include it.

Regardless of whether what you're saying is right or not, NS is just terrible to point to, TBH.

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:Dur, but it helps to simulate my point. As long as you regulate capitalism and don't make the system to socialist or to capitalist it could work well.

Do you force people to work for your state industries? I mean, I like your spending priorities but still, there is no difference between enslaving yourself to a boss or being "lotteried" to work at a government service.

Andromitus wrote:YupHow do jobs work in your nation? For example, do people choose or do you choose for them? Is having a job necessary for survival?

Little Explanation

LONG STORY SHORT

I Believe the Greed and Corruption of Corporations along with there Inhuman Practices are Cancerous , Now i Have no issiue with them , Just they have to be Owned 51% by the State so that they can be Forcefully complied to Economical,Moral and Ethical Standards .

To Answer [nation=short]Andromitus[/nation]

No. People are Free to choose to work in what ever area they please to work in.

Not Necessarily, However If your wanting to advance in life you will need to work to Get Vouchers that allow your advancement to better...Everything id say.

and Now to Perland

Well when Private Enterprises are Outlawed everythings a State Industry so i guess in short yes .

Thats True , But in my system your going to Be Treated correctly and Compensated Correctly Than under the Capitalist system TBH . It honestly Repulses me how the Guy in the Chair in the tower Gets all the Dough and the Actually workers are potentially Dieing on the line for slave Wages . The DES and the FSB Would be Raining down on a Establishment like that and the Man in the Chair will be arrested on a number of Charges .

Vista Major wrote:Alas, tis maybe so

yea...it kinda sucks tbh lol

The United Providences Of Perland

We will be posting soon the official gathered list thus far of the First Regional Song Contest!

Jaslandia, The Vidnoye, Andromitus

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:I don't have full capitalism lol. Perland is democratic socialist. My biggest usage of government funds id towards Education, healthcare, and welfare. While we have private industry, it's still regulated well, like capitalism should be. But how is being able to be fired for going against your boss any different then being forced to work for the state?

You're a false socialist state, deluding the workers and Unfallious will have no business with you until the bourgeois leadership of your nation decides to stop deluding its populace with labels like 'democratic socialists'

Sulania wrote:Greetings fellow Nations of the Confederacy

Following a democratic referendum, the people of Sulania have decided, unilaterally, to leave the Reich and form an independent socialist republic, under provisional Premier Joshua Varen. A formal constitution is in the works to establish the formal and long-standing government of the new Republic. With the rise of the new order, Sulania shall submit its formal secession from the Reich, and a peaceful dissolution of our political bonds will occur in haste.

In conjunction with this, the newly formed United Socialist Republic of Sulania will be dissolving its ties to the International Trade Federation. In light of its new path towards a pure socialist future, as well as the news of a former conspiracy to have our nation invaded in a false war to have us capitulate back into the status quo. We are now seeking membership and protection from the USCS, as well as our Socialist comrades in Unfallious. While we hope this protection is unneeded, the people of Sulania will actively protect both its sovereignty and its future.

In solidarity with the People,

Premier Joshua Varen.

The Krai confirms, that after an emergency session, that it has placed the entirety of the territory possessed by the people of Sulania under Unfallion protection until such time as their membership application is ongoing. This means that the Unfallion people are willing to die in glory for the protection of the renewed revolution in Sulania. It also urges the Sulanians to formally submit a membership request to one of the Council members so that it may be put to the Council in a proposal.

Russian Fedration, The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Friedensreich

Unfallious wrote:You're a false socialist state, deluding the workers and Unfallious will have no business with you until the bourgeois leadership of your nation decides to stop deluding its populace with labels like 'democratic socialists'

The Krai confirms, that after an emergency session, that it has placed the entirety of the territory possessed by the people of Sulania under Unfallion protection until such time as their membership application is ongoing. This means that the Unfallion people are willing to die in glory for the protection of the renewed revolution in Sulania. It also urges the Sulanians to formally submit a membership request to one of the Council members so that it may be put to the Council in a proposal.

Scratch this last part unf doesn't know how to check his telegrams

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia

To the US people here:

Has the US of worker rights? Or is that too communist/socialist?

Russian Fedration, Jaslandia, The United Providences Of Perland

Unfallious wrote:You're a false socialist state, deluding the workers and Unfallious will have no business with you until the bourgeois leadership of your nation decides to stop deluding its populace with labels like 'democratic socialists'

The Krai confirms, that after an emergency session, that it has placed the entirety of the territory possessed by the people of Sulania under Unfallion protection until such time as their membership application is ongoing. This means that the Unfallion people are willing to die in glory for the protection of the renewed revolution in Sulania. It also urges the Sulanians to formally submit a membership request to one of the Council members so that it may be put to the Council in a proposal.

If you wish to play that way, so be it. Perland hereby condemns the USCS as a communist state bent on world domination. You are no better than that of Stalin. We will not fight you, and are attempting to be a signatory of HOPE. However, Unfallian (is that the correct adjective) diplomats are barred from Perland, and all trade with Unfallious is embargoed. This may have little effect on the nation, but it states a message. Perland will not side with the communist OR the over-capitalist nations of the ITF.

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:To the US people here:

Has the US of worker rights? Or is that too communist/socialist?

Our workers rights are pretty basic, it's sad really.

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:If you wish to play that way, so be it. Perland hereby condemns the USCS as a communist state bent on world domination. You are no better than that of Stalin. We will not fight you, and are attempting to be a signatory of HOPE. However, Unfallian (is that the correct adjective) diplomats are barred from Perland, and all trade with Unfallious is embargoed. This may have little effect on the nation, but it states a message. Perland will not side with the communist OR the over-capitalist nations of the ITF.

What an overreaction....

Russian Fedration, The Royal Republic Of Kumania

Friedensreich wrote:What an overreaction....

Didnt we have something like that in the TNI?

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:If you wish to play that way, so be it. Perland hereby condemns the USCS as a communist state bent on world domination. You are no better than that of Stalin. We will not fight you, and are attempting to be a signatory of HOPE. However, Unfallian (is that the correct adjective) diplomats are barred from Perland, and all trade with Unfallious is embargoed. This may have little effect on the nation, but it states a message. Perland will not side with the communist OR the over-capitalist nations of the ITF.

you just did the diplomatic equivalent of 'I know you are, what am I?'

Well played, Per. Well played.

Russian Fedration, Jaslandia, The United Providences Of Perland, Solla Ultima

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:To the US people here:

Has the US of worker rights? Or is that too communist/socialist?

Barely. Just pray you aren't a pregnant woman that works, a gay man, or over 50, because there are no protections against your employer firing you!

Russian Fedration, The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:Our workers rights are pretty basic, it's sad really.

What about public unemployment insurance?

Or statutory health insurance?

Russian Fedration

Friedensreich wrote:What an overreaction....

They declared us a false state and essentially called us slave masters, ya think that may be quite offensive and insulting? Especially that kind of rhetoric from a nation is frightening; it seems as following Unf and the USCS charter that they're bent on domination, pardon us for not wanting another USSR totalitarian state.

Friedensreich wrote:Barely. Just pray you aren't a pregnant woman that works, a gay man, or over 50, because there are no protections against your employer firing you!

That's sad. Very sad.

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:What about public unemployment insurance?

Or statutory health insurance?

Health insured is sorta covered, however unemployment isn't by the company, it comes from the taxes, so basically when you were/are working you put your share in for it.

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:They declared us a false state and essentially called us slave masters, ya think that may be quite offensive and insulting? Especially that kind of rhetoric from a nation is frightening; it seems as following Unf and the USCS charter that they're bent on domination, pardon us for not wanting another USSR totalitarian state.

MFW You want another USSR

Friedensreich, The United Providences Of Perland

Russian Fedration wrote:Little Explanation

LONG STORY SHORT

I Believe the Greed and Corruption of Corporations along with there Inhuman Practices are Cancerous , Now i Have no issiue with them , Just they have to be Owned 51% by the State so that they can be Forcefully complied to Economical,Moral and Ethical Standards .

To Answer [nation=short]Andromitus[/nation]

No. People are Free to choose to work in what ever area they please to work in.

Not Necessarily, However If your wanting to advance in life you will need to work to Get Vouchers that allow your advancement to better...Everything id say.

and Now to Perland

Well when Private Enterprises are Outlawed everythings a State Industry so i guess in short yes .

Thats True , But in my system your going to Be Treated correctly and Compensated Correctly Than under the Capitalist system TBH . It honestly Repulses me how the Guy in the Chair in the tower Gets all the Dough and the Actually workers are potentially Dieing on the line for slave Wages . The DES and the FSB Would be Raining down on a Establishment like that and the Man in the Chair will be arrested on a number of Charges .

yea...it kinda sucks tbh lol

Vouchers? Do your people not maintain economic freedom?

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:If you wish to play that way, so be it. Perland hereby condemns the USCS as a communist state bent on world domination. You are no better than that of Stalin. We will not fight you, and are attempting to be a signatory of HOPE. However, Unfallian (is that the correct adjective) diplomats are barred from Perland, and all trade with Unfallious is embargoed. This may have little effect on the nation, but it states a message. Perland will not side with the communist OR the over-capitalist nations of the ITF.

What about Ædenists? We're the best of all worlds :)

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:Health insured is sorta covered, however unemployment isn't by the company, it comes from the taxes, so basically when you were/are working you put your share in for it.

Not anymore, Trumpcare promises such great additions as ensurers raising rates over preexisting conditions, a definition which has been so graciously broadened to include such fine things such as acne and pregnancy.

Russian Fedration, The United Providences Of Perland

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:They declared us a false state and essentially called us slave masters, ya think that may be quite offensive and insulting? Especially that kind of rhetoric from a nation is frightening; it seems as following Unf and the USCS charter that they're bent on domination, pardon us for not wanting another USSR totalitarian state.

If I threw a shítfit every time a nation threw bad words at me, would I have any respect abroad? There was a certain guy back in TNI that threw a fit and placed embargoes on people every time they said something bad about him, and he was pretty much universally disliked.

I mean, would it be right for the US to throw tomahawks at NK every time Kim Jong Un feels like he isn't getting attention and throws some empty threats and sharp words about it? The short answer is no.

Russian Fedration

Friedensreich wrote:

I mean, would it be right for the US to throw tomahawks at NK every time Kim Jong Un feels like he isn't getting attention and throws some empty threats and sharp words about it? The short answer is [B]we should[/B].

Fixed it for ya :P

Andromitus

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:That's sad. Very sad.

In the US, paid maternity and paternity leave are not ensured, like the rest of the developed world. Hell, even China and Saudi Arabia offer PTO for mothers.

Oh, and it's perfectly legal in about 30 states for employers to fire their employees just for being lgbt. And in some states, it's legal to uphold service or sale to any lgbt people for religious reasons.

Finally, there are no protections against employers firing the elderly. If you're over 50, you are on a short wire for replacement by your employer.

Russian Fedration, The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia

Kalaron wrote:Fixed it for ya :P

What a great way to start WW3 there, m8 :P

Russian Fedration, Jaslandia

Friedensreich wrote:What a great way to start WW3 there, m8 :P

Oh I was imagining actual tomahawk axes, like Trump was just pell-mell throwing them as far as he could from SK hoping to wing Kim.

Jaslandia, Friedensreich

What's this talk about dead leftist ideologies versus capitalism?

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:To the US people here:

Has the US of worker rights? Or is that too communist/socialist?

Get that pinko trash outta here. 'MERICA F*CK YEA!

But we have some, just not like Europe

Jaslandia

Andromitus wrote:Vouchers? Do your people not maintain economic freedom?

What about Ædenists? We're the best of all worlds :)

Not anymore, Trumpcare promises such great additions as ensurers raising rates over preexisting conditions, a definition which has been so graciously broadened to include such fine things such as acne and pregnancy.

Yes and no .

In my Economic Factbook and in the Policy Tab you can see there but its not finalized yet.

Friedensreich wrote:In the US, paid maternity and paternity leave are not ensured, like the rest of the developed world. Hell, even China and Saudi Arabia offer PTO for mothers.

Oh, and it's perfectly legal in about 30 states for employers to fire their employees just for being lgbt. And in some states, it's legal to uphold service or sale to any lgbt people for religious reasons.

Finally, there are no protections against employers firing the elderly. If you're over 50, you are on a short wire for replacement by your employer.

Pretty Repulsive if you ask me.

Jaslandia, The United Providences Of Perland

Friedensreich wrote:In the US, paid maternity and paternity leave are not ensured, like the rest of the developed world. Hell, even China and Saudi Arabia offer PTO for mothers.

Oh, and it's perfectly legal in about 30 states for employers to fire their employees just for being lgbt. And in some states, it's legal to uphold service or sale to any lgbt people for religious reasons.

Finally, there are no protections against employers firing the elderly. If you're over 50, you are on a short wire for replacement by your employer.

Well over here (in Germany) a mother get's 14 weeks full paid maternity leave. 6 Weeks before the expected date of delivery and 8 after that. 12 weeks after the delivery if you have twins or more or preemie.

And you can't be fired for being lgbt, being too old, being seriously sick, etc.

Jaslandia, The United Providences Of Perland

Kalaron wrote:Oh I was imagining actual tomahawk axes, like Trump was just pell-mell throwing them as far as he could from SK hoping to wing Kim.

With his baby hands, he probably wouldn't be able to even throw it over the fence!

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Well over here (in Germany) a mother get's 14 weeks full paid maternity leave. 6 Weeks before the expected date of delivery and 8 after that. 12 weeks after the delivery if you have twins or more or preemie.

And you can't be fired for being lgbt, being too old, being seriously sick, etc.

'Merica, man. We don't like admitting that foreign nations have it right sometimes.

Russian Fedration, Jaslandia

Friedensreich wrote:'Merica, man. We don't like admitting that foreign nations have it right sometimes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMqcLUqYqrs

Friedensreich wrote:With his baby hands, he probably wouldn't be able to even throw it over the fence!

s'all in the hips.

Can someone add this on our WFE: http://s15.zetaboards.com/COFN/topic/10200464/1/?x=0#post10014112?

Latrovia wrote:Can someone add this on our WFE: http://s15.zetaboards.com/COFN/topic/10200464/1/?x=0#post10014112?

I'd would have liked to partake but unfortunately my question wasn't answered so I couldn't send in a song. Sad. I would have loved to join. :(

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:I'd would have liked to partake but unfortunately my question wasn't answered so I couldn't send in a song. Sad. I would have loved to join. :(

Sorry what was you question, because I dont remember.

Latrovia wrote:Sorry what was you question, because I dont remember.

I asked if it's a problem if the song is a bit older ?

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:I asked if it's a problem if the song is a bit older ?

well the artist must be alive.

Latrovia wrote:well the artist must be alive.

Ok. That should work.

Can I still send you a song ? And how do I do that ?

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Ok. That should work.

Can I still send you a song ? And how do I do that ?

Via TG :D

Latrovia wrote:Via TG :D

Ok, will do so. :)

Thanks. <3

Jaslandia

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Ok, will do so. :)

Thanks. <3

Also: http://s15.zetaboards.com/COFN/topic/10200477/1/

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