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Region: The Confederacy of Free Nations
Cool. I was curious.
Cesorion
Definetly left-wing
Ew
Nuremgard
If I met a nice, good looking guy on a date and he told me he was "centre-right" I dunno what I'd do lol
"Oh is that the time? Sorry, must dash" :P
Nah, I'd probably have fun debating with him then have angry sex later.
Axeldonia
Rocks in old rocking chair
'Ah remember a time when you'd ah done no more than hear he was a centre-right voter to break the relationship.
They grow up so fast ;-;
(:P)
Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica
Does it matter? Greece is a failure of a state for some time already....
What the world needs is rise of Catalonia.
Greece is going through a bad time but I think failed state is an exaggeration. A failed state is something like Somalia or Sudan.
Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Yukona
If incumbent govt stays six months more, it won't be an exaggeration at all
Spanelsko
You know more than I do so I'll take your word for it.
Post self-deleted by Spanelsko.
You're mistaken.
Spanelsko
In that case i will shut up. Thank you for correcting me.
Not completely. Look above
Hey....I am a new member....
Saluty...everyoane
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Cesorion
Nuremgard must be a trading menace with its constant raising of tariffs.
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova, Yukona
>Tarrifs
>Trade Menace
>Remembers Latrovian Autarky
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/233369021632872448/406458607031287808/1c2.png
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona
I M P O R T--S U B S T I T U T I O N--I N D U S T R I A L I Z A T I O N
Jaslandia, Yukona
Jeremy Corbyn has been criticised for not mentioning the Jews in his Holocaust Memorial Day message, instead saying the "millions who died should never be forgotten."
Had he only mentioned Jews, no doubt he'd have been criticised for not mentioning other victims of Nazi horror.
Anything to smear the guy. Why does he specifically need to mention the Jews? They were the biggest group who died in the Holocaust, yes, but does that mean their lives matter more? Do they have special victim status or something? The "millions who died" surely includes the Jews.
Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica
I dont think its so much that their lives matter more as it is that we view larger losses of life more tragic than smaller losses of life. Which is why its more of a tragedy when a commercial aircraft carrying hundreds goes down compared to a two-seater plane crashing.
That being said, thats the only thing I disagree with you on. Even speaking as a Jew, millions who died seems to cover the extent of the loss that took place. Yes, Holocaust is specifically the term used to describe the attempt at mass extinction of the Jewish people, but as it happened alongside the mass killings of the mentally disabled, homosexuals, Roma peoples, and so many others, it seems entirely appropriate to me to speak of the Holocaust in terms of the mass murdering that was taking place writ large. To name groups specifically runs the risk of excluding one or more affected groups.
Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Mercunova
The Imperial Parliament has been renamed to the Imperial Senate.
Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Cesorion, Spanelsko
The fact that people will use the Holocaust as a way of scoring political points is sick.
Hey, Israel is very happy to use that guilt to buy ships where Germany comps the cost.
[spoiler=Today is January 26 and today are:]
Today is January 26 and today are:
- Australia Day (Australia)
- Duarte Day (Dominican Republic)
- Engineer's Day (Panama)
- International Customs Day
- Liberation Day (Uganda)
- National Big Wig Day (United States)
- National Green Juice Day (United States)
- National Peanut Brittle Day (United States)
- National Spouses Day (United States)
- Republic Day (India)
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[spoiler=This day in history:]
This day in history:
- 1500 Vicente Yáñez Pinzón becomes the first European to set foot on Brazil.
- 1531 The 6.47.1 Mw Lisbon earthquake kills about thirty thousand people.
- 1564 The Council of Trent establishes an official distinction between Roman Catholicism and Protestantism.
- 1564 The Grand Duchy of Lithuania defeats the Tsardom of Russia in the Battle of Ula during the Livonian War.
- 1565 Battle of Talikota, fought between the Vijayanagara Empire and the Deccan sultanates, leads to the subjugation, and eventual destruction of the last Hindu kingdom in India, and the consolidation of Islamic rule over much of the Indian subcontinent.
- 1699 For the first time, the Ottoman Empire permanently cedes territory to the Christian powers.
- 1700 The 8.79.2 Mw Cascadia earthquake takes place off the west coast of North America, as evidenced by Japanese records.
- 1736 Stanislaus I of Poland abdicates his throne.
- 1788 The British First Fleet, led by Arthur Phillip, sails into Port Jackson (Sydney Harbour) to establish Sydney, the first permanent European settlement on the continent. Commemorated as Australia Day.
- 1808 The Rum Rebellion is the only successful (albeit short-lived) armed takeover of the government in Australia.
- 1837 Michigan is admitted as the 26th U.S. state.
- 1838 Tennessee enacts the first prohibition law in the United States
- 1841 James Bremer takes formal possession of Hong Kong Island at what is now Possession Point, establishing British Hong Kong.
- 1855 Point No Point Treaty is signed in Washington Territory.
- 1856 First Battle of Seattle. Marines from the USS Decatur drive off American Indian attackers after all day battle with settlers.
- 1861 American Civil War: The state of Louisiana secedes from the Union.
- 1863 American Civil War: General Ambrose Burnside is relieved of command of the Army of the Potomac after the disastrous Fredericksburg campaign. He is replaced by Joseph Hooker.
- 1863 American Civil War: Governor of Massachusetts John Albion Andrew receives permission from the Secretary of War to raise a militia organization for men of African descent.
- 1870 Reconstruction Era: Virginia rejoins the Union.
- 1885 Troops loyal to The Mahdi conquer Khartoum, killing the Governor-General Charles George Gordon.
- 1905 The world's largest diamond ever, the Cullinan weighing 3,106.75 carats (0.621350 kg), is found at the Premier Mine near Pretoria in South Africa.
- 1911 Glenn H. Curtiss flies the first successful American seaplane.
- 1915 The Rocky Mountain National Park is established by an act of the U.S. Congress.
- 1918 Finnish Civil War: A group of Red Guards hangs a red lantern atop the tower of Helsinki Workers' Hall to symbolically mark the start of the war.
- 1920 Former Ford Motor Company executive Henry Leland launches the Lincoln Motor Company which he later sold to his former employer.
- 1926 The first demonstration of the television by John Logie Baird.
- 1930 The Indian National Congress declares 26 January as Independence Day or as the day for Poorna Swaraj ("Complete Independence") which occurred 17 years later.
- 1934 The Apollo Theater reopens in Harlem, New York City.
- 1934 GermanPolish Non-Aggression Pact is signed.
- 1939 Spanish Civil War: Catalonia Offensive: Troops loyal to nationalist General Francisco Franco and aided by Italy take Barcelona.
- 1942 World War II: The first United States forces arrive in Europe landing in Northern Ireland.
- 1945 World War II: The Red Army begins encircling the German Fourth Army near Heiligenbeil in East Prussia, which will end in destruction of the 4th Army two months later.
- 1945 World War II: Audie Murphy displays valor and bravery in action for which he will later be awarded the Medal of Honor.
- 1949 The Hale telescope at Palomar Observatory sees first light under the direction of Edwin Hubble, becoming the largest aperture optical telescope (until BTA-6 is built in 1976).
- 1950 The Constitution of India comes into force, forming a republic. Rajendra Prasad is sworn in as its first President of India. Observed as Republic Day in India.
- 1952 Black Saturday in Egypt: rioters burn Cairo's central business district, targeting British and upper-class Egyptian businesses.
- 1956 Soviet Union cedes Porkkala back to Finland.
- 1961 John F. Kennedy appoints Janet G. Travell to be the first woman Physician to the President.
- 1962 Ranger 3 is launched to study the Moon. The space probe later misses the moon by 22,000 miles (35,400 km).
- 1965 Hindi becomes the official language of India.
- 1980 Israel and Egypt establish diplomatic relations.
- 1986 The Ugandan government of Tito Okello is overthrown by the National Resistance Army, led by Yoweri Museveni.
- 1991 Mohamed Siad Barre is removed from power in Somalia, ending centralized government, and is succeeded by Ali Mahdi.
- 1992 Boris Yeltsin announces that Russia will stop targeting United States cities with nuclear weapons.
- 1998 Lewinsky scandal: On American television, U.S. President Bill Clinton denies having had "sexual relations" with former White House intern Monica Lewinsky.
- 2001 The 7.7 Mw Gujarat earthquake shakes Western India with a maximum Mercalli intensity of X (Extreme), leaving 13,80520,023 dead and about 166,800 injured.
- 2009 Rioting breaks out in Antananarivo, Madagascar, sparking a political crisis that will result in the replacement of President Marc Ravalomanana with Andry Rajoelina.
- 2015 An aircraft crashes at Los Llanos Air Base in Albacete, Spain, killing 11 people and injuring 21 others.
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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]
Famous Birthdays:
- 0183 Lady Zhen, Chinese empress
- 1495 Emperor Go-Nara of Japan
- 1781 Ludwig Achim von Arnim, German poet and author
- 1880 Douglas MacArthur, American general, Medal of Honor recipient
- 1904 Seán MacBride, Irish lawyer and politician, Irish Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade Nobel Prize laureate
- 1911 Polykarp Kusch, German-American physicist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate
- 1918 Nicolae Ceaușescu, Romanian general and politician, 1st President of Romania
- 1921 Akio Morita, Japanese businessman, co-founded Sony
- 1925 Paul Newman, American actor, director, race car driver, and businessman, co-founded Newman's Own
- 1944 Angela Davis, American activist
- 1946 Michel Delpech, French singer-songwriter and actor
- 1947 Robert Cailliau, Belgian informatics engineer and computer scientist
- 1955 Eddie Van Halen, Dutch-American guitarist, songwriter, and producer
- 1958 Ellen DeGeneres, American comedian, actress, and talk show host
- 1961 Wayne Gretzky, Canadian ice hockey player and coach
- 1963 José Mourinho, Portuguese footballer and manager
- 1967 Col Needham, English businessman, co-founded Internet Movie Database
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Quote of the day
A friend is someone who knows all about you and still loves you.
- Elbert Hubbard (American Writer, 1859-1915) -
Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Mercunova, Yukona, Percyton
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Jaslandia
We all know where this leads
[spoiler]Turmoil has engulfed the Galactic Republic. The taxation of trade routes to outlying star systems is in dispute.
Hoping to resolve the matter with a blockade of deadly battleships, the greedy Trade Federation has stopped all shipping to the small planet of Naboo.
While the congress of the Republic endlessly debates this alarming chain of events, the Supreme Chancellor has secretly dispatched two Jedi Knights, the guardians of peace and justice in the galaxy, to settle the conflict...[/spoiler]
Jaslandia
https://www.engadget.com/2017/09/29/elon-musk-spacex-bfr-travel-earth/
You know, sometimes a person just makes a damn fool of themselves.
Patience, Nurem. Reforming a country takes time.
Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, Yukona, Percyton, Cesorion, Spanelsko
Hey. I made a factbook for my puppet
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=961029
Have a look
Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton
Talking with yourself now? Man, this game really drives people crazy.
Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Yukona, Percyton, Cesorion
Damn, check out that mustache.
Jaslandia, Percyton, Cesorion
New news article/newsfeed post! Prime Minister Kirkman announces a state visit to Percyton, while the United Kingdom prepares for war in al-Qarn.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=961077
https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=421225&p=33354415#p33354415
Russkov Soviet, Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton, Spanelsko
Now that I think about it... have I ever flown over? I've lost track of my out of country trips.
Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton
Hello, everyone! I'm back again! Seems like this January is busier than usual. I've had more goods and passenger trains to take care of. Thankfully, Sir Topham Hatt put me on lighter duties for the next few days so I can rest, while Bill, Ben, and Laura will be doing my usual duties on Thomas' Branch Line.
Percyton is greatly looking to Prime Minister Kirkman's visit! I'll make sure everything is ready for him, and we'll treat you to all the sites and activities Sodor has to offer!
I'm not sure if you've ever flown here, but you've visited Percyton a couple of times so far. There was the time you came in disguise to visit Jerry, and I think there was also a more formal state visit.
Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica
Thank you, Percy! And Bill and Ben working on the branch line? That should be interesting, since those twins are full of pranks and mischief. By the way, how do Bill and Ben get along with Thomas? Because I know they've had a somewhat-strained relationship in the past.
http://ttte.wikia.com/wiki/Tale_of_the_Brave
http://ttte.wikia.com/wiki/Thomas_and_the_Twins
Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton
Thomas sometimes gets annoyed with the twins' trouble-making, but otherwise, the three actually get along pretty well. Bill and Ben's initial pact in 1989 not to tease Thomas anymore didn't last long, but they reconciled after Bill and Ben saved Thomas from a landslide at the Clay Pits in 2013. The same can't be said for the other engines, though; when the twins are working outside the Clay Pits, the big engines like Gordon, Henry, and James are the most common target of Bill and Ben's teases and pranks, so the big engines (particularly Gordon) don't like Bill and Ben much.
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
Actually, now that I think about it, some of the big engines actually do like Bill and Ben. Hank, for example, is a common target of Bill and Ben's mischief, but Hank has a higher tolerance for their mischief than most engines, so he usually laughs along with them, and the three of them get along very well. Greg (formerly known as 'the Works Diesel') and Rebecca also get along fairly well with Bill and Ben, though even they sometimes lose their patience with the Clay Pits twins.
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
Interesting. I'm glad Hank at least is tolerant of Bill and Ben.
Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton
Hello everyone
Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova, Percyton
Welcome to the CoFN! My name is Aleksander D. Colstov. I am the current Premier of the Equestrian Union and Supreme Ruler of Russia.
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton
Hmmm.... I haven't seen His Majesty, Prince Regent Jason for some time. I think a trip to Sodor is in order. I can catch up on the good times, make sure Jerry is doing well, and check on the status of FOB Pegasus near Kirk Ronan!
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton
Welcome to the region, Ordenstaat Britannien!
I wouldn't mind, but it's not Prince Jason coming to Percyton; it's Jaslandia's new Prime Minister, George Kirkman. You two haven't met, so if Percy is alright with you coming to Sodor, Kirkman would love to meet you!
Russkov Soviet, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton
Greetings!
Percyton
Well... My point still stands xD. I would be honored to meet Prime Minister Kirkman, but I still need to visit His Majesty and see with my own eyes how the Kingdom is doing.
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton
Welcome to the CoFN, Ordenstaat Britannien! I'm Percy, King of Percyton and the #6 green engine on the Island of Sodor. I hope you like it here!
Two state visits at once!?! That seems like a lot to manage, but I'm sure my team can do it! Premier Coltsov is free to come to come to Percyton! However, Gordon would like me to ask you that if you do come, it would be easier if you come on the second day of Prime Minister Kirkman's visit (Kirkman will be visiting Percyton for 2 or 3 days), that way we don't have to welcome two foreign leaders at the same time. And you're certainly free to visit Jerry, meet with Mr. Kirkman, and visit FOB Pegasus. I'll even have my Defense Minister Neville give you a tour of the under-construction base!
Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia
You're of course welcome to visit Jaslandia! It looks like Prince Jason and King Michael will be very busy men! Once Prime Minister Kirkman returns, Prince Jason, King Michael, and Kirkman are scheduled to meet with the First Minister of Cesorion. But, I'm sure we can fit you in!
Russkov Soviet, Cesorion
Prince Jason would meet with you in Percyton or Russkov Soviet, but he's tied up at home at the moment due to the situation in al-Qarn. Plus, Prime Minister Kirkman has already come under fire for visiting Percyton during the war in al-Qarn, as mentioned in my recent news article, and the Prime Minister traditionally doesn't even have much of a role in foreign and defense policy. Imagine the political outcry if Prince Jason, who actually does have control over foreign and defense, were to leave the country now!
Cesorion
I would hate to be a bother, so just send a letter to New Stalliongrad when your able to comfortably see me. My intel services are ever-present.
Jaslandia, Cesorion
Will do! We'll let you know when Prince Jason is free!
Russkov Soviet, Cesorion
Hello. I would not like to live in your country.
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
Westphalia has been invaded, and they are too many to fight off on our own. I'm sending a call out to all regions who could possibly send help or send our message wide. Please, Westphalia is dying!
Penguania And Antarctica, Spanelsko
As my friend Rigia says its a very bad situation...
Penguania And Antarctica
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Spanelsko
Oh, don't be like that. Are you saying you would?
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
I for one submit to our fascist German overlords
Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Spanelsko
[spoiler=Today is January 27 and today are:]
Today is January 27 and today are:
- Day of the lifting of the siege of Leningrad (Russia)
- e-Day
- Holocaust Memorial Day (UK)
- Holocaust Remembrance Day (Sweden)
- International Holocaust Remembrance Day
- Memorial Day (Italy)
- Memorial Day for the Victims of the Holocaust and Prevention of Crimes against Humanity (Czech Republic)
- Memorial Day for the Victims of National Socialism (Germany)
- National Chocolate Cake Day (United States)
- National Geographic Day
- National Holocaust Memorial Day (Greece)
- National Seed Swap Day (United States)
- Punch the Clock Day
- Saint Dévote's Day (Monaco)
- Spirituality Day/St Sava's Day (Serbia)
- St Sava's Day (Macedonia)
- Visit Your Local Quilt Shop Day
- World Breast Pumping Day
- Yom HaShoah (Israel)
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[spoiler=This day in history:]
This day in history:
- AD98 Trajan succeeded his adoptive father Nerva as Roman emperor; under his rule the Roman Empire would reach its maximum extent.
- 0945 The co-emperors Stephen and Constantine are overthrown. Constantine VII becomes sole emperor of the Byzantine Empire.
- 1142 Song dynasty General Yue Fei is executed.
- 1186 Henry VI, the son and heir of the Holy Roman Emperor Frederick I, marries Constance of Sicily.
- 1302 Dante Alighieri is exiled from Florence.
- 1343 Pope Clement VI issues the papal bull Unigenitus to justify the power of the pope and the use of indulgences. Nearly 200 years later, Martin Luther would protest this.
- 1606 Gunpowder Plot: The trial of Guy Fawkes and other conspirators begins, ending with their execution on January 31.
- 1695 Mustafa II becomes the Ottoman sultan and Caliph of Islam in Istanbul on the death of Ahmed II. Mustafa rules until his abdication in 1703.
- 1776 American Revolutionary War: Henry Knox's "noble train of artillery" arrives in Cambridge, Massachusetts.
- 1785 The University of Georgia is founded, the first public university in the United States.
- 1820 A Russian expedition led by Fabian Gottlieb von Bellingshausen and Mikhail Petrovich Lazarev discovers the Antarctic continent, approaching the Antarctic coast.
- 1825 The U.S. Congress approves Indian Territory (in what is present-day Oklahoma), clearing the way for forced relocation of the Eastern Indians on the "Trail of Tears".
- 1868 Boshin War: The Battle of TobaFushimi between forces of the Tokugawa shogunate and pro-Imperial factions begins, which will end in defeat for the shogunate, and is a pivotal point in the Meiji Restoration.
- 1869 Boshin War: Tokugawa rebels establish the Ezo Republic in Hokkaidō.
- 1880 Thomas Edison receives the patent on the incandescent lamp.
- 1918 Beginning of the Finnish Civil War.
- 1927 Ibn Saud takes the title of King of Nejd.
- 1939 First flight of the Lockheed P-38 Lightning.
- 1943 World War II: The Eighth Air Force sorties ninety-one B-17s and B-24s to attack the U-boat construction yards at Wilhelmshaven, Germany. This was the first American bombing attack on Germany.
- 1944 World War II: The 900-day Siege of Leningrad is lifted.
- 1945 World War II: The Red Army liberates the remaining inmates of Auschwitz-Birkenau.
- 1951 Nuclear testing at the Nevada Test Site begins with Operation Ranger.
- 1961 The Soviet submarine S-80 sinks when its snorkel malfunctions, flooding the boat.
- 1967 Astronauts Gus Grissom, Ed White and Roger Chaffee are killed in a fire during a test of their Apollo 1 spacecraft at the Kennedy Space Center, Florida.
- 1967 United States, United Kingdom, and Soviet Union sign the Outer Space Treaty in Washington, D.C., banning deployment of nuclear weapons in space, and limiting use of the Moon and other celestial bodies to peaceful purposes.
- 1973 The Paris Peace Accords officially end the Vietnam War. Colonel William Nolde is killed in action becoming the conflict's last recorded American combat casualty.
- 1980 Through cooperation between the U.S. and Canadian governments, six American diplomats secretly escape hostilities in Iran in the culmination of the Canadian Caper.
- 1983 The pilot shaft of the Seikan Tunnel, the world's longest sub-aqueous tunnel (53.85 km) between the Japanese islands of Honshū and Hokkaidō, breaks through.
- 1996 In a military coup Colonel Ibrahim Baré Maïnassara deposes the first democratically elected president of Niger, Mahamane Ousmane.
- 1996 Germany first observes International Holocaust Remembrance Day.
- 2000 Bill Belichick is hired as the head coach of the New England Patriots and has led the team to 15 AFC East Titles, 8 AFC Titles and 5 Super Bowl Titles. [1]
- 2002 An explosion at a military storage facility in Lagos, Nigeria, kills at least 1,100 people and displaces over 20,000 others.
- 2003 The first selections for the National Recording Registry are announced by the Library of Congress.
- 2010 The 2009 Honduran constitutional crisis ends when Porfirio Lobo Sosa becomes the new President of Honduras.
- 2011 Arab Spring: The Yemeni Revolution begins as over 16,000 protestors demonstrate in Sana'a.
- 2013 Two hundred and forty-two people die in a nightclub fire in the Brazilian city of Santa Maria, Rio Grande do Sul.
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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]
Famous Birthdays:
- 1687 Johann Balthasar Neumann, German engineer and architect, designed Würzburg Residence and Basilica of the Fourteen Holy Helpers
- 1756 Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Austrian pianist and composer
- 1775 Friedrich Wilhelm Joseph Schelling, German-Swiss philosopher and academic
- 1795 Eli Whitney Blake, American engineer, invented the Mortise lock
- 1832 Lewis Carroll, English mathematician, photographer, and author
- 1850 Edward Smith, English captain
- 1859 Wilhelm II, German Emperor
- 1901 Art Rooney, American football player and coach, founded the Pittsburgh Steelers
- 1903 John Eccles, Australian-Swiss neurophysiologist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate
- 1940 James Cromwell, American actor
- 1944 Nick Mason, English drummer, songwriter, and producer
- 1944 Mairead Maguire, Northern Irish activist, Nobel Prize laureate
- 1964 Bridget Fonda, American actress
- 1974 Ole Einar Bjørndalen, Norwegian skier and biathlete
- 1979 Rosamund Pike, English actress
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Quote of the day
The soul that sees beauty may sometimes walk alone.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (German Poet, 1749-1832) -
Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Lex Caledonia, Mercunova, Yukona
Perfect timing.
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Yukona, Cesorion
I finally bring back democratic elections and ban sortition in New Salvatore but at the same time, I bring in devolution. I want this government to be unitary and centralised. Now it's time to work on cancelling the devolution policy!
But hurah! New Salvatore is no longer a fascist one-party state! Ironically, bringing democracy and devolution to the country increased political apathy.
Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Mercunova, Cesorion, Spanelsko
A New Salvatorean citizen: "So I can govern myself now and determine my own fate? Meh. Big deal. What's on TV?"
Nuremgard, Cesorion, Spanelsko
They're so used to being told what to do and think by the government, they don't know how to do democracy yet. They don't have the mindset for it.
Jaslandia, Spanelsko
Well, that's happened plenty of times in both the past and the present, so I suppose that's realistic.
Nuremgard, Spanelsko
are we talking about Weimar and Austria?
Not sure what Nurem was talking about, but I was thinking more along the lines of modern-day Middle Eastern countries like Syria and Libya, as some have claimed that the people in those nations aren't ready for democratic government.
Nuremgard, Spanelsko
I based New Salvatore on Spain but modern Spain is very decentralised (excluding the current Catalan situation.) But I think it would make more sense for the ruling Nationalists to be unitary. What do you think?
Jaslandia
You might be able to justify an exception, but generally speaking, Nationalists (assuming 'Nationalist' in this case means 'supporter of nationalism'), are in favor of unitary government, since the leaders can exercise more power that way (some flavors of nationalism lean toward fascism), and nationalists generally like strong and united nations are opposed to more decentralized and ineffective ones.
Nuremgard, Cesorion, Spanelsko
That's what I was thinking. The Nationalists are literally the Fascist Party rebranded. So I think they would not lose their penchant for strong, united, centralised government. They don't want to encourage regions to break away from the state.
Main aspects of the Salvatorian Nationalist Party: strong central government, staunch royalism (in the sense they believe the King should have some executive power or at least share power with Parliament), autarky, imperialism, Catholicism and patriarchy (they are against giving women the vote) and they believe in what they call "conservative paternalism." This is basically providing social security and other public benefits to prevent the working class turning to the Socialists.
They are generally pro-business but are protectionist and will regulate excessive activities by corporations for the good of the state. And I plan to have them improve the country's collapsing environment.
Apologies for the long post.
Jaslandia, Cesorion, Spanelsko
Interesting, i was always more for what they have in China, state owned industry with the smaller less important business private.
(if i remember correctly thats how they have it in this communist hell)
Nuremgard, Jaslandia
I might have the Nationalists bring some strategic sectors under state control for the good of the nation.
Jaslandia
Not sure if New Salvatore has oil, but if it does, the oil industry is usually one of the first industries to be nationalized (not counting public goods like transportation, utilities, water, etc.), presumably because there's a ton of money to be made in oil. Barring that, nationalize the largest industry of New Salvatore's economy and go from there.
Nuremgard
It's biggest is retail, then arms manufacturing, IT and book publishing (ironic that a formerly fascist state should have an extensive book publishing industry.)
I also cant think of a decent pre-title. I could just use Kingdom but it's too simple. But the current People's Christian Kingdom is a bit wordy and weird. Any ideas?
Jaslandia, Spanelsko
The books make sense, state run propaganda, as for the name National Congress of Christian Imperialists?
Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Cesorion
National Congress of Christian Imperialists Kingdom? Lol. A bit of a mouthful.
Jaslandia
Although that would be a cool name for a pressure group in the country.
Cesorion, Spanelsko
Nationalizing retail seems like to much of a hassle, so I'd go with either arms manufacturing or book publishing (the latter could be used for propaganda, like Span said).
As for a pre-title, maybe something with 'Holy'? Like 'People's Holy Kingdom', or 'The Holy People's Kingdom'? Or, perhaps just removed the 'people's' part altogether (since theocratic nations usually aren't big fans of democracy, as they believe the rule of God makes rule by the people unnecessary).
Nuremgard, Spanelsko
To be fair though, the country has become a democracy and is politically liberalising itself. But it wont lose its deeply Catholic and conservative character.
Jaslandia
Fair enough. Although I think New Salvatore can still be deeply Catholic without having to use the word 'Christian' or 'holy' in its name.
Nuremgard
I agree. I've changed it to the simple Kingdom for now.
Jaslandia
So the democratic experiment in New Salvatore is not going well. I decided there would be an upper chamber which would have the power to veto bills. This nullified the Caudillo's power, increased political apathy further, increased tax and made unemployment worse.
Jaslandia, Spanelsko
I know i compared N. Salvatore to Weimar Republic but this seems even worse :p (well at least no hyper inflation)
Nuremgard
We're not a Weimar levels of crisis (yet.) The new democratic government still has time to redeem itself. I'm thinking a cut in income tax should help boost economic growth and make the incumbent administration more popular.
Spanelsko
you know that in NS logic doesnt work? i would not be surprised if this made unemployment grow :p
Nuremgard, Jaslandia
I know right? I might just increase welfare and healthcare to gain working class support.
Jaslandia, Spanelsko
Well maybe i was a bit wrong, my puppet nation Order of Libetarians of UFIR actually has 75% employment rate.... and its fully capitalists without welfare (but for some reason the nation is called Anarchy)
Nuremgard
#NSLogic
New Salvatore has a new Caudillo and a new King. Both are young, both help represent the new era beginning in the country's history. But they're already at a crossroads. The new King is a lot more liberal than his dad and he holds some views which horrify the Nationalists.
Jaslandia, Spanelsko
NS Logic: Total collapse of any order in the nation makes economy great and helps people to get jobs. (4.4% tax somehow)
Well i hope the King and his son manage to build a good democracy, i mean i love our oppression of our people but we are also a democracy. :)
Nuremgard, Jaslandia
I remember in my Scotland, the government caved into anarchist demands and basically decimated the entire government budget. This brought employment up fantastically.
The King is going to butt heads a lot with his Caudillo but he is young, handsome and progressive so he is very popular with young people and leftists. More conservative elements of the country are ambiguous about his reign despite most of the country being staunchly monarchist. There are even rumours that the King is an atheist.
Jaslandia, Spanelsko
In that case make sure he never visits us, while Atheist arent shot on the spot and have some rights..... lets say that inquisition ignores that....
Nuremgard
If you touched our King in the wrong way, you'd be blown off the map by our nukes. But we'll keep him away. ;)
Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Spanelsko
*Looks at policies..... sees that UFIR owns WMDS........ did you say something? *
Russkov Soviet, Nuremgard, Jaslandia
So you're Salvatore.
Ich bin blöd.
Spanelsko
Also dont ask how we have feudalism yet own WMDS and have space program.....
Russkov Soviet, Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Vista Major
It's alright. Before we democratised, New Salvatore was an autocracy with a state press that allowed public protest.
It's possible
Stupid
But possible
Jaslandia, Spanelsko
Policy plan for Nuremgard: bring back the right to religious worship, abolish term limits, enshrine the right to protest, enshrine the right to a free media (then again I might not do this as Nuremgard has laws against the media lying), bring back the judiciary and allow smoking in private.
Jaslandia
delet dis
Nuremgard, Vetriutan 2
delet dis
Nuremgard, Vetriutan 2
Why? lol
We all have our national quirks. Like me.. I'm full of super-patriotic citizens that are really friendly.. But boast a 63% disappearance rate.
Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Spanelsko
They are really, really patriotic in the hopes that they wont go missing. Because if the government doesn't believe they're being patriotic enough...
Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia
aldwood posting on the message board? what is this shenanigans!?
Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Kalaron, Penguania And Antarctica
LOL. I actually am curious as to why I have such a high rate.
Nuremgard, Jaslandia
Woah, that is a big percentage lol. Maybe increase political freedoms? You should check out Tangshan's disappearance rate. :P
Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia
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