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Oelesa wrote:You can type.

3:30pm EST for Sul's bill. 4:30pm EST for Vista's

Currently Studying Abroad I'm not always available especially during those times

The United Providences Of Perland

Andromitus wrote:Currently Studying Abroad I'm not always available especially during those times

At least until next monday and on

Friedensreich wrote:Was the establishment of a Foreign Affairs Council legitimized through a constitution interpretation granting the government the creation of it, or at least passed through a vote?

Well, foreign affairs widely falls within the jurisdiction of the Minister of Foreign Affairs, with diplomatic relations also involving the Chancellor. If the Minister wants to set up a volunteer council to guide his decisions or considerations, I believe it would be his choice to make.

But if the Minister uses his position or that of the council to tell citizens how to vote on WA resolutions, I think he'd be out of scope of his constitutional perogative.

Yukona

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Well, foreign affairs widely falls within the jurisdiction of the Minister of Foreign Affairs.
pack up your bags boys we can go home

Auxorii

Oelesa wrote:You can type.

3:30pm EST for Sul's bill. 4:30pm EST for Vista's

Damn, I'll miss it by five hours due to the train. I may be able to come in with headphones and listen, talking via chat. If my phone service is ok at these times, would the above be ok?

Nuremgard wrote:I'd have supported all the Jacobite claimants. As far as I'm concerned, the Dutchman and the Germans thereafter were foreign usurpers.

Tell me more about Catholics holding the British throne, daddy ;)

Nuremgard

I'm pleased to announce that the United Kingdom of Jaslandia has formed a partnership with Percyton on developing the North Jasland Royal Railway, a new heritage railway that is sponsored by the Jaslandian Royal Family. Percyton will provide consulting assistance and expert advisers during the construction of this new heritage railway. This new railway will also serve as a testing ground for Jaslandia's new sentient engines program.

To this end, Jaslandia has reached an engine exchange agreement with Percyton: In exchange for sending four of our engines to Percyton for couple weeks (three steam engines and a diesel), Percyton will send us three of their engines (James, Stanley, and Paxton). Those three engines will assist with the construction of the North Jasland Royal Railway, and the four engines we sent to Percyton will also assist in the construction of the new railway upon their return. Finally, Percyton has agreed to send us a shipment of Island of Sodor coal and diesel fuel, both for research purposes, and for future use in case we decide to bring anymore of our own engines alive.

We thank the Percytonian officials for their cooperation, and we look forward to a fruitful partnership!

Nuremgard, Peoples Liberation Republic, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Percyton

Auxorii wrote:Tell me more about Catholics holding the British throne, daddy ;)

Well they didn't hold it for long. James VI was ousted after he sired a male Catholic heir. So the English Parliament quickly got rid of him and he escaped to exile. Then the nobles invited William of Orange to take the throne and James came back to fight him in Ireland but lost at the Battle of the Boyne. That's the battle the Orange Order are obsessed with.

Yukona

Nuremgard wrote:Well they didn't hold it for long. James VI was ousted after he sired a male Catholic heir. So the English Parliament quickly got rid of him and he escaped to exile. Then the nobles invited William of Orange to take the throne and James came back to fight him in Ireland but lost at the Battle of the Boyne. That's the battle the Orange Order are obsessed with.

Quite a remarkable battle though none the less

Nuremgard

Yukona wrote:Quite a remarkable battle though none the less

Too bad James fled. Mind you he would have probably suffered the same fate as Charles I had he stayed.

Yukona

Nuremgard wrote:Too bad James fled. Mind you he would have probably suffered the same fate as Charles I had he stayed.

Another dead monarch another step closer to republicanism ewww :^)

Yukona wrote:Another dead monarch another step closer to republicanism ewww :^)

Not in Britain. It's more obsessed with its monarchy than ever.

Jaslandia wrote:I'm pleased to announce that the United Kingdom of Jaslandia has formed a partnership with Percyton on developing the North Jasland Royal Railway, a new heritage railway that is sponsored by the Jaslandian Royal Family. Percyton will provide consulting assistance and expert advisers during the construction of this new heritage railway. This new railway will also serve as a testing ground for Jaslandia's new sentient engines program.

To this end, Jaslandia has reached an engine exchange agreement with Percyton: In exchange for sending four of our engines to Percyton for couple weeks (three steam engines and a diesel), Percyton will send us three of their engines (James, Stanley, and Paxton). Those three engines will assist with the construction of the North Jasland Royal Railway, and the four engines we sent to Percyton will also assist in the construction of the new railway upon their return. Finally, Percyton has agreed to send us a shipment of Island of Sodor coal and diesel fuel, both for research purposes, and for future use in case we decide to bring anymore of our own engines alive.

We thank the Percytonian officials for their cooperation, and we look forward to a fruitful partnership!

This is news worth reporting.

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:This is news worth reporting.

I suppose so. Do you want to write a news article about it or something?

The United Providences Of Perland

Jaslandia wrote:I suppose so. Do you want to write a news article about it or something?

I'm too lazy lol. I just wanted to mention this is what needs to be in the news, nice happy stuff.

Jaslandia, Percyton

Nuremgard wrote:Well they didn't hold it for long. James VI was ousted after he sired a male Catholic heir. So the English Parliament quickly got rid of him and he escaped to exile. Then the nobles invited William of Orange to take the throne and James came back to fight him in Ireland but lost at the Battle of the Boyne. That's the battle the Orange Order are obsessed with.

I was turned on until you brought up the OO

Nuremgard

Auxorii wrote:I was turned on until you brought up the OO

Like it or not, that's what the history is.

Auxorii wrote:I was turned on until you brought up the OO

Agreed. I've never understood the appeal of object-orientated programming either. I've always been more of a modular programming guy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OO

Auxorii

I just played through Rise of the Tomb Raider, and more than anything I just want to know how the hell Laura can deal with being drenched in water in a Siberian snow storm.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Andromitus

Onocarcass wrote:I just played through Rise of the Tomb Raider, and more than anything I just want to know how the hell Laura can deal with being drenched in water in a Siberian snow storm.

Her boobs trap all the heat.

Onocarcass, Jaslandia

Onocarcass wrote:I just played through Rise of the Tomb Raider, and more than anything I just want to know how the hell Laura can deal with being drenched in water in a Siberian snow storm.
video game physics, nothing can kill you if it isn't programmed to do so.

Onocarcass, Jaslandia, Vista Major

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:video game physics, nothing can kill you if it isn't programmed to do so.

Logical, I like it

Nuremgard wrote:Her boobs trap all the heat.

I dunno...

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Vista Major

Vista Major wrote:Favorite Star Wars planet

Naboo. Dunno why tho.

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Favourite Star Trek captain

Captian James Tiberius Kirk.

(That and mine from Star Trek Online on PS4)

Nuremgard wrote:Favourite Game of Thrones House.

Never watched it, read it, ect. So... I dunno

Russkov Soviet wrote:Never watched it, read it, ect. So... I dunno

Then you do not know greatness. Martin is a modern day Tolkein.

Russkov Soviet

Nuremgard wrote:Then you do not know greatness. Martin is a modern day Tolkein.

Well... I'll look into it.

Nuremgard

Russkov Soviet wrote:Well... I'll look into it.

You should. And if you do, be sure to support Daenerys.

Nuremgard wrote:You should. And if you do, be sure to support Daenerys.

Aye. I took a test and wound up in House Stark though....so eh. I'll probably keep this under wraps until I understand the series and houses more. (To busy with work and Star Trek Online atm....And trying to move to Russia {In-game} and move to Scotland {IRL})

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Andromitus

Russkov Soviet wrote:Aye. I took a test and wound up in House Stark though....so eh. I'll probably keep this under wraps until I understand the series and houses more. (To busy with work and Star Trek Online atm....And trying to move to Russia {In-game} and move to Scotland {IRL})

House Stark is cool.

You're moving to Scotland! Awesome! Which part? Any reason for the move? Where you moving from?

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:Then you do not know greatness. Martin is a modern day Tolkein.

https://youtu.be/XAAp_luluo0

Nuremgard

Nuremgard wrote:House Stark is cool.

You're moving to Scotland! Awesome! Which part? Any reason for the move? Where you moving from?

(Which part?) We don't know yet.

(Reason?) Family found out that we have British ancestry. I'm not happy with the idea.*

(Where?) Dallas, Texas, USA

*(The only reason I hate this is the fact that our family actually were "Redcoats" and Torries. One of my good pals has proof that my family killed his. Battle of Saratoga I believe. Took 6 years for him and his family to trust me...much less forgive me)

Nuremgard

Russkov Soviet wrote:(Which part?) We don't know yet.

(Reason?) Family found out that we have British ancestry. I'm not happy with the idea.*

(Where?) Dallas, Texas, USA

*(The only reason I hate this is the fact that our family actually were "Redcoats" and Torries. One of my good pals has proof that my family killed his. Battle of Saratoga I believe. Took 6 years for him and his family to trust me...much less forgive me)

Why should they care what your ancestors did? That's weird, dude. I live in Glasgow. It's a good city.

Russkov Soviet

Nuremgard wrote:Why should they care what your ancestors did? That's weird, dude. I live in Glasgow. It's a good city.

I dunno. People are crazy. And Glasgow was one of the ideas I had tbh xD

Nuremgard

Russkov Soviet wrote:I dunno. People are crazy. And Glasgow was one of the ideas I had tbh xD

Edinburgh is a more beautiful looking city (in my opinion) but I think Glasgow has character. Scotland is a great place to live. You get free healthcare, free prescriptions, free personal and nursing care, no tuition fees, free hospital parking.

Russkov Soviet

Nuremgard wrote:Edinburgh is a more beautiful looking city (in my opinion) but I think Glasgow has character. Scotland is a great place to live. You get free healthcare, free prescriptions, free personal and nursing care, no tuition fees, free hospital parking.

As long as I can still be a gamer, I'm happy. (You better have Pepsi or Coke over there or else. Its my favorite two brands of soda. Can't game worth a darn without it)

Nuremgard

Russkov Soviet wrote:As long as I can still be a gamer, I'm happy. (You better have Pepsi or Coke over there or else. Its my favorite two brands of soda. Can't game worth a darn without it)

You also get a purely Scottish soda called Irn-Bru. Try it. It's the bees' knees.

Kalaron

Nuremgard wrote:Edinburgh is a more beautiful looking city (in my opinion) but I think Glasgow has character. Scotland is a great place to live. You get free healthcare, free prescriptions, free personal and nursing care, no tuition fees, free hospital parking.

How high are the taxes?

Auxorii wrote:How high are the taxes?

I wouldn't know. I'm a student so I don't pay tax.

Auxorii wrote:-snippet-

I like your flag, btw, although it seems a bit empty in the center, maybe if the Starred Cross was slightly larger?

Nuremgard

Andromitus wrote:I like your flag, btw, although it seems a bit empty in the center, maybe if the Starred Cross was slightly larger?

He says he's thinking of adding St. Peter's seal onto the flag. That would busy it up a bit in the middle.

Russkov Soviet

Nuremgard wrote:He says he's thinking of adding St. Peter's seal onto the flag. That would busy it up a bit in the middle.

Can't wait to see it

Nuremgard

Andromitus wrote:I like your flag, btw, although it seems a bit empty in the center, maybe if the Starred Cross was slightly larger?

Nuremgard wrote:He says he's thinking of adding St. Peter's seal onto the flag. That would busy it up a bit in the middle.

Russkov Soviet wrote:Can't wait to see it

I didn't wanna overcomplicate it. I'll post a picture of it and see what you guys think

Russkov Soviet, Nuremgard

Hello there!

Penguania And Antarctica

Xianshil And Siskaira wrote:Hello there!

Yo.

Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:Then you do not know greatness. Martin is a modern day Tolkein.

He is not the same calibre as Tolkien, seriously

Xianshil And Siskaira wrote:Hello there!

Hello! I'm Andy, MoJ and Mentor here in the CoFN; If you need anything feel free to send me a Telegram :D

Jaslandia, Tserra, The United Providences Of Perland

PARLIAMENT REMINDER

Minister Sulania's bill is going to have a live discord session tomorrow at 3:30pm EST

I would also like to apologize for some people that can't make it. If I could have it earlier I would, but school will begin tomorrow and that is the soonest I can get it. So for the future, as long as I'm Speaker, If you want earlier dates please schedule for a weekend.

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Yukona

Oelesa wrote:PARLIAMENT REMINDER

Minister Sulania's bill is going to have a live discord session tomorrow at 3:30pm EST

I would also like to apologize for some people that can't make it. If I could have it earlier I would, but school will begin tomorrow and that is the soonest I can get it. So for the future, as long as I'm Speaker, If you want earlier dates please schedule for a weekend.

I ain't even gonna read it, then I'm gonna vote on it, and I won't even know what I'm voting for. This is what the government gets for censoring C*NTE.

Oelesa

Yukona wrote:I ain't even gonna read it, then I'm gonna vote on it, and I won't even know what I'm voting for. This is what the government gets for censoring C*NTE.

#DisbandPoliticalParties

The United Providences Of Perland

Friedensreich wrote:#DisbandPoliticalParties

>tfw because of an unintentional coincidence you have to censor your own party's name when discussing censoring

Yukona wrote:>tfw because of an unintentional coincidence you have to censor your own party's name when discussing censoring

You could just change it to something NS doesn't disagree with like common sense would dictate.

Friedensreich wrote:#DisbandPoliticalParties

I second.

The Welsh Government wants to spend £395,000 building a monument celebrating Edward I and his conquest of Wales.

Man, these people are f*cking morons aren't they?

United Continental States

Yukona wrote:I ain't even gonna read it, then I'm gonna vote on it, and I won't even know what I'm voting for. This is what the government gets for censoring C*NTE.

Another reason why you should not have an organization that is government involved. Also, if you fear the government is censoring you, going to extremes to spread your discontent hurts your cause.

[spoiler=Today is July 25 and today are:]

Today is July 25 and today are:

- Culinarians Day

- Guanacaste Day (Costa Rica)

- National Baha'i Day (Jamaica)

- National Day of Galicia (Galicia, Spain)

- National Hire a Veteran Day (United States)

- National Hot Fudge Sundae Day (United States)

- National Merry-Go-Round Day (United States)

- National Threading the Needle Day (United States)

- Puerto Rico Constitution Day (Puerto Rico)

- Republic Day (Tunisia)

- Revolution Anniversary (Cuba)

- Revolution Day (Egypt)

- Wine and Cheese Day

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 306 – Constantine I is proclaimed Roman emperor by his troops.

- 315 – The Arch of Constantine is completed near the Colosseum in Rome to commemorate Constantine I's victory over Maxentius at the Milvian Bridge.

- 864 – The Edict of Pistres of Charles the Bald orders defensive measures against the Vikings.

- 1137 – Eleanor of Aquitaine married Prince Louis, later King Louis VII of France, at the Cathedral of Saint-André in Bordeaux.

- 1139 – Battle of Ourique: The Almoravids, led by Ali ibn Yusuf, are defeated by Prince Afonso Henriques who is proclaimed King of Portugal.

- 1261 – The city of Constantinople is recaptured by Nicaean forces under the command of Alexios Strategopoulos, re-establishing the Byzantine Empire.

- 1278 – The naval Battle of Algeciras takes place in the context of the Spanish Reconquista resulting in a victory for the Emirate of Granada and the Maranid Dynasty over the Kingdom of Castile.

- 1467 – The Battle of Molinella: The first battle in Italy in which firearms are used extensively.

- 1536 – Sebastián de Belalcázar on his search of El Dorado founds the city of Santiago de Cali.

- 1538 – The city of Guayaquil is founded by the Spanish Conquistador Francisco de Orellana and given the name Muy Noble y Muy Leal Ciudad de Santiago de Guayaquil.

- 1547 – Henry II of France is crowned.

- 1554 – Mary I marries Philip II of Spain at Winchester Cathedral.

- 1567 – Don Diego de Losada founds the city of Santiago de Leon de Caracas, modern-day Caracas, the capital city of Venezuela.

- 1593 – Henry IV of France publicly converts from Protestantism to Roman Catholicism.

- 1603 – James VI of Scotland is crowned king of England (James I of England), bringing the Kingdom of England and Kingdom of Scotland into personal union. Political union would occur in 1707.

- 1609 – The English ship Sea Venture, en route to Virginia, is deliberately driven ashore during a storm at Bermuda to prevent its sinking; the survivors go on to found a new colony there.

- 1693 – Ignacio de Maya founds the Real Santiago de las Sabinas, now known as Sabinas Hidalgo, Nuevo León, Mexico.

- 1722 – Dummer's War begins along the Maine-Massachusetts border.

- 1755 – British governor Charles Lawrence and the Nova Scotia Council order the deportation of the Acadians.

- 1759 – French and Indian War: In Western New York, British forces capture Fort Niagara from the French, who subsequently abandon Fort Rouillé.

- 1783 – American Revolutionary War: The war's last action, the Siege of Cuddalore, is ended by a preliminary peace agreement.

- 1788 – Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart completes his Symphony No. 40 in G minor (K550).

- 1792 – The Brunswick Manifesto is issued to the population of Paris promising vengeance if the French royal family is harmed.

- 1797 – Horatio Nelson loses more than 300 men and his right arm during the failed conquest attempt of Tenerife (Spain).

- 1799 – At Abu Qir in Egypt, Napoleon I of France defeats 10,000 Ottomans under Mustafa Pasha.

- 1814 – War of 1812: An American attack on Canada is repulsed.

- 1824 – Costa Rica annexes Guanacaste from Nicaragua.

- 1837 – The first commercial use of an electrical telegraph is successfully demonstrated in London by William Cooke and Charles Wheatstone.

- 1853 – Joaquin Murrieta, the famous Californio bandit known as the "Robin Hood of El Dorado", is killed.

- 1861 – American Civil War: The United States Congress passes the Crittenden–Johnson Resolution, stating that the war is being fought to preserve the Union and not to end slavery.

- 1866 – The United States Congress passes legislation authorizing the rank of General of the Army. Lieutenant General Ulysses S. Grant becomes the first to be promoted to this rank.

- 1868 – Wyoming becomes a United States territory.

- 1869 – The Japanese daimyōs begin returning their land holdings to the emperor as part of the Meiji Restoration reforms. (Traditional Japanese Date: June 17, 1869).

- 1894 – The First Sino-Japanese War begins when the Japanese fire upon a Chinese warship.

- 1898 – In the Puerto Rican Campaign, the United States seizes Puerto Rico from Spain.

- 1908 – Ajinomoto is founded. Kikunae Ikeda of the Tokyo Imperial University discovers that a key ingredient in kombu soup stock is monosodium glutamate (MSG), and patents a process for manufacturing it.

- 1909 – Louis Blériot makes the first flight across the English Channel in a heavier-than-air machine from (Calais to Dover, England, United Kingdom) in 37 minutes.

- 1915 – RFC Captain Lanoe Hawker becomes the first British pursuit aviator to earn the Victoria Cross.

- 1917 – Sir Robert Borden introduces the first income tax in Canada as a "temporary" measure (lowest bracket is 4% and highest is 25%).

- 1925 – Telegraph Agency of the Soviet Union (TASS) is established.

- 1934 – The Nazis assassinate Austrian Chancellor Engelbert Dollfuss in a failed coup attempt.

- 1940 – General Henri Guisan orders the Swiss Army to resist German invasion and makes surrender illegal.

- 1942 – The Norwegian Manifesto calls for nonviolent resistance to the German occupation.

- 1943 – World War II: Benito Mussolini is forced out of office by the Grand Council of Fascism and is replaced by Pietro Badoglio.

- 1944 – World War II: Operation Spring is one of the bloodiest days for the First Canadian Army during the war.

- 1946 – Operation Crossroads: An atomic bomb is detonated underwater in the lagoon of Bikini Atoll.

- 1952 – The U.S. non-incorporated territory of Puerto Rico adopts a constitution.

- 1956 – Forty-five miles south of Nantucket Island, the Italian ocean liner SS Andrea Doria collides with the MS Stockholm in heavy fog and sinks the next day, killing 51.

- 1957 – The Republic of Tunisia is proclaimed.

- 1958 – The African Regroupment Party (PRA) holds its first congress in Cotonou.

- 1961 – In a speech John F. Kennedy emphasizes that any attack on Berlin is an attack on NATO.

- 1965 – Bob Dylan goes electric at the Newport Folk Festival, signaling a major change in folk and rock music.

- 1969 – Vietnam War: U.S. President Richard Nixon declares the Nixon Doctrine, stating that the United States now expects its Asian allies to take care of their own military defense. This is the start of the "Vietnamization" of the war.

- 1973 – Soviet Mars 5 space probe is launched.

- 1976 – Viking program: Viking 1 takes the famous Face on Mars photo.

- 1978 – Puerto Rican police shoot two nationalists in the Cerro Maravilla murders.

- 1978 – Birth of Louise Joy Brown, the first human to have been born after conception by in vitro fertilisation, or IVF.

- 1979 – Another section of the Sinai Peninsula is peacefully returned by Israel to Egypt.

- 1983 – Black July: Thirty-seven Tamil political prisoners at the Welikada high security prison in Colombo are massacred by the fellow Sinhalese prisoners.

- 1984 – Salyut 7 cosmonaut Svetlana Savitskaya becomes the first woman to perform a space walk.

- 1993 – Israel launches a massive attack against Lebanon in what the Israelis call Operation Accountability, and the Lebanese call the Seven-Day War.

- 1993 – The Saint James Church massacre occurs in Kenilworth, Cape Town, South Africa.

- 1994 – Israel and Jordan sign the Washington Declaration, that formally ends the state of war that had existed between the nations since 1948.

- 1995 – A gas bottle explodes in Saint Michel station of line B of the RER (Paris regional train network). Eight are killed and 80 wounded.

- 1996 – In a military coup in Burundi, Pierre Buyoya deposes Sylvestre Ntibantunganya.

- 2000 – Concorde Air France Flight 4590 crashes at Paris Charles de Gaulle airport, killing 113 passengers.

- 2007 – Pratibha Patil is sworn in as India's first female president.

- 2010 – WikiLeaks publishes classified documents about the War in Afghanistan, one of the largest leaks in U.S. military history.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1573 – Christoph Scheiner, German astronomer and Jesuit

- 1750 – Henry Knox, American general and politician, 1st United States Secretary of War

- 1869 – Carl Miele, German businessman

- 1894 – Gavrilo Princip, Bosnian Serb revolutionary

- 1894 – Walter Brennan, American actor

- 1905 – Elias Canetti, Bulgarian-Swiss novelist, playwright, and memoirist, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1920 – Rosalind Franklin, English biophysicist, chemist, and academic

- 1921 – Paul Watzlawick, Austrian-American family therapist, psychologist, communications theorist, and philosopher

- 1923 – Estelle Getty, American actress

- 1951 – Jack Thompson, American lawyer and activist

- 1952 – Eduardo Souto de Moura, Portuguese architect, designed the Estádio Municipal de Braga

- 1954 – Jürgen Trittin, German politician (Green Party), former Federal Minister for the Environment, Nature Conservation and Nuclear Safety

- 1955 – Iman, Somalian-English model and actress

- 1965 – Ina Müller, German singer, author, and television host

- 1985 – Nelson Piquet Jr., Brazilian race car driver

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Quote of the day

This is the precept by which I have lived: Prepare for the worst; expect the best; and take what comes.

- Hannah Arendt -

Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.

Jaslandia, The United Providences Of Perland, Percyton

Nuremgard wrote:The Welsh Government wants to spend £395,000 building a monument celebrating Edward I and his conquest of Wales.

Man, these people are f*cking morons aren't they?

Some people love Longshanks!

...wait, "Longshanks" is a person?!

Jaslandia

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Some people love Longshanks!

...wait, "Longshanks" is a person?!

No doubt if the Labour incompetents were in charge up here in Scotland they'd want to build a statue of Edward I to celebrate his early attempts to create a British/Greater English state.

Seems Scottish unionists aren't the only ones who have the cringe.

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:Another reason why you should not have an organization that is government involved. Also, if you fear the government is censoring you, going to extremes to spread your discontent hurts your cause.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/joke

Nuremgard wrote:The Welsh Government wants to spend £395,000 building a monument celebrating Edward I and his conquest of Wales.

Man, these people are f*cking morons aren't they?

Where did you read this?

Yukona wrote:Where did you read this?

The National. There was a backlash on social media from some Wales residents.

Nuremgard wrote:The National. There was a backlash on social media from some Wales residents.

Oh I looked it up and couldn't find anything bar that monument in Burgh on Sands.

Yukona wrote:Oh I looked it up and couldn't find anything bar that monument in Burgh on Sands.

They're building some sort of ring.

Vote in the new poll!!

It has a rather short duration, as I know that there are others who might want to call a poll as well. I called this one for two reasons

1) To act as a guide for the Ministry (e.g. if no-one selects a certain option, we will not form embassies with regions that represent that option)

2) Because we could see some new political parties form after the poll closes, as both Union and DLP are somewhere around the Centre-Left.

The United Providences Of Perland

Cesorion wrote:Vote in the new poll!!

It has a rather short duration, as I know that there are others who might want to call a poll as well. I called this one for two reasons

1) To act as a guide for the Ministry (e.g. if no-one selects a certain option, we will not form embassies with regions that represent that option)

2) Because we could see some new political parties form after the poll closes, as both Union and DLP are somewhere around the Centre-Left.

Fun poll. Although, we shouldn't exclude possible diplomatic partners based on their political opinions unless they are solely based on a political idea or ideology (I.e conservative league or the pro-life region that tried to embassy us a while back).

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:Fun poll. Although, we shouldn't exclude possible diplomatic partners based on their political opinions unless they are solely based on a political idea or ideology (I.e conservative league or the pro-life region that tried to embassy us a while back).

^

Not to even touch on the fact that the left-right dichotomy is a bit dated due to its lack of comprehensiveness, whose to say we can't have good relations with, say, right-wing regions even if (hypothetically) no one in this region identifies as right wing. I think we've always generally followed the rule that we're accepting across the board unless the other party is distinctly not.

Oelesa, The United Providences Of Perland, Cesorion

Continental Commonwealths wrote:^

Not to even touch on the fact that the left-right dichotomy is a bit dated due to its lack of comprehensiveness, whose to say we can't have good relations with, say, right-wing regions even if (hypothetically) no one in this region identifies as right wing. I think we've always generally followed the rule that we're accepting across the board unless the other party is distinctly not.

Yeah, I agree, but I just want to have a basic guideline, that's all.

Oelesa

Continental Commonwealths wrote:^

Not to even touch on the fact that the left-right dichotomy is a bit dated due to its lack of comprehensiveness, whose to say we can't have good relations with, say, right-wing regions even if (hypothetically) no one in this region identifies as right wing. I think we've always generally followed the rule that we're accepting across the board unless the other party is distinctly not.

I think the left-right dichotomy still applies. It's just that both sides can be misrepresented by a vocal minority of extremists.

I will say one thing about right-wingers. They know how to unite for the sake of surviving and ruling. Leftists are constantly fighting amongst themselves and splitting off into smaller and smaller fringe groups. We do love the no true Scotsman fallacy as we love to accuse each other of not being left enough.

As we fiddle, Rome burns.

The United Providences Of Perland

Cesorion wrote:Yeah, I agree, but I just want to have a basic guideline, that's all.

Totally fair. And an interesting poll, nonetheless. Sometimes you can be surprised by the difference between your perception and others' perception of themselves.

Jaslandia, The United Providences Of Perland, Cesorion

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Totally fair. And an interesting poll, nonetheless. Sometimes you can be surprised by the difference between your perception and others' perception of themselves.

I couldn't agree more!

Shoulda given a far-left option....

Nuremgard, The United Providences Of Perland, Yukona

Nuremgard wrote:I think the left-right dichotomy still applies. It's just that both sides can be misrepresented by a vocal minority of extremists.

I will say one thing about right-wingers. They know how to unite for the sake of surviving and ruling. Leftists are constantly fighting amongst themselves and splitting off into smaller and smaller fringe groups. We do love the no true Scotsman fallacy as we love to accuse each other of not being left enough.

As we fiddle, Rome burns.

I don't think it's an issue of misrepresentation so much as, like I said, lack of comprehensiveness. Or, rather, the misrepresentation you refer to is the result of a lack of comprehensiveness. Political ideologies have so many facets that a lot of detail is lost when one simplifies it to a distinction of left or right or, as is the case with this poll, a distinction of left, LoC, centre, RoC, and right.

The political ideology matrix gives more detail and is what I've always dealt with in professionally and in academia, both in general and on a topic-by-topic analysis. The only place I really come into contact with the left-right dichotomy nowadays is in debates and journalism.

Nuremgard, Friedensreich

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I don't think it's an issue of misrepresentation so much as, like I said, lack of comprehensiveness. Or, rather, the misrepresentation you refer to is the result of a lack of comprehensiveness. Political ideologies have so many facets that a lot of detail is lost when one simplifies it to a distinction of left or right or, as is the case with this poll, a distinction of left, LoC, centre, RoC, and right.

The political ideology matrix gives more detail and is what I've always dealt with in professionally and in academia, both in general and on a topic-by-topic analysis. The only place I really come into contact with the left-right dichotomy nowadays is in debates and journalism.

I always knew I was left-wing but now I know I am officially since my political compass put me close to where Gandhi was.

The United Providences Of Perland

Nuremgard wrote:I think the left-right dichotomy still applies. It's just that both sides can be misrepresented by a vocal minority of extremists.

I will say one thing about right-wingers. They know how to unite for the sake of surviving and ruling. Leftists are constantly fighting amongst themselves and splitting off into smaller and smaller fringe groups. We do love the no true Scotsman fallacy as we love to accuse each other of not being left enough.

As we fiddle, Rome burns.

Oi, if people that are not left-wing claim to be left-wing, I'm going to call it out. Big reason why I never truly supported Bernie Sanders during 2015 and 2016 is because he claimed to be a socialist when he's little more than a social democrat.

The United Providences Of Perland

Friedensreich wrote:Oi, if people that are not left-wing claim to be left-wing, I'm going to call it out. Big reason why I never truly supported Bernie Sanders during 2015 and 2016 is because he claimed to be a socialist when he's little more than a social democrat.

You make my point for me. Does it matter? He was a genuine left wing alternative. But rather than support him, you bitched about him not being left enough.

The United Providences Of Perland

Friedensreich wrote:Oi, if people that are not left-wing claim to be left-wing, I'm going to call it out. Big reason why I never truly supported Bernie Sanders during 2015 and 2016 is because he claimed to be a socialist when he's little more than a social democrat.

Well, I think it may also be situational. For instance, I consider myself right of centre withon my Canadian environment, but I'd

Probably be positively centrist and accused of being a Democrat if someone dropped me into [shudders] the United States.

And by US political standards, where it's only recently that many Democrats won't take offence if called "liberals", I think Sanders may be perceived as socialist by comparison. In Canada, I think he'd fall more into our centrist party than our social democratic party.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, The United Providences Of Perland

Nuremgard wrote:I always knew I was left-wing but now I know I am officially since my political compass put me close to where Gandhi was.

Behold: https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpoliticalcompass?ec=-7.75&soc=-6.87

Nuremgard

Nuremgard wrote:You make my point for me. Does it matter? He was a genuine left wing alternative. But rather than support him, you bitched about him not being left enough.

Because I'm more loyal to ideological purity than political gain. I'm sorry he wasn't leftist enough for me, I'll make sure to just vote for whoever claims to be a leftist next time.

Friedensreich wrote:Because I'm more loyal to ideological purity than political gain. I'm sorry he wasn't leftist enough for me, I'll make sure to just vote for whoever claims to be a leftist next time.

What other option do you have in the US? But I take your point. I know what it's like to be stuck in a two-party BS setup.

Nuremgard wrote:What other option do you have in the US? But I take your point. I know what it's like to be stuck in a two-party BS setup.

Mimi Soltysik, Jill Stein, the list goes on and on. But I'll make sure to vote for any guy that even claims to know what the left wants.

Friedensreich wrote:Mimi Soltysik, Jill Stein, the list goes on and on. But I'll make sure to vote for any guy that even claims to know what the left wants.

Sigh. Alright, I take your point. I was wrong. Don't just vote for any twat.

Friedensreich wrote:Because I'm more loyal to ideological purity than political gain. I'm sorry he wasn't leftist enough for me, I'll make sure to just vote for whoever claims to be a leftist next time.

You're sounding like a communist.

I took the American political matrix quiz. This is what I got.

Your score pegs you as economically moderately leftist and socially libertarian.

Moderate economic leftists generally support regulation of free trade and business to assure that workers are fairly treated and prices remain stable.

Social libertarians generally believe that the government should not judge morality, and are generally against the illegalization of things that do not directly affect other people in a negative way. Many strong social libertarians may also be social progressives, favoring legislation to correct what they see as socially backwards governmental regulation, although some simply wish for the government to make little judgment on social matters.

Nuremgard wrote:I took the American political matrix quiz. This is what I got.

Your score pegs you as economically moderately leftist and socially libertarian.

Moderate economic leftists generally support regulation of free trade and business to assure that workers are fairly treated and prices remain stable.

Social libertarians generally believe that the government should not judge morality, and are generally against the illegalization of things that do not directly affect other people in a negative way. Many strong social libertarians may also be social progressives, favoring legislation to correct what they see as socially backwards governmental regulation, although some simply wish for the government to make little judgment on social matters.

https://gyazo.com/ad5f569e3c187d97c28196a57fff72cc

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Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:https://gyazo.com/ad5f569e3c187d97c28196a57fff72cc

Gross.

Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:https://gyazo.com/ad5f569e3c187d97c28196a57fff72cc

which test is that?

Nuremgard wrote:Gross.

Lol. It's a great quiz though and you should take it and show us your results

Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:Lol. It's a great quiz though and you should take it and show us your results

Where can I take it?

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Nuremgard wrote:Where can I take it?

Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:It's called 8values

Fun fact I used to be a socialist

Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:Fun fact I used to be a socialist

Fun fact: I used to be religious.

Nuremgard wrote:Fun fact: I used to be religious.

You're kidding right?

Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:https://gyazo.com/ad5f569e3c187d97c28196a57fff72cc

https://i.imgur.com/PHbju2Q_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high

Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:You're kidding right?

Nope. I was a fire and brimstone Catholic once.

Yukona

Nuremgard wrote:I took the American political matrix quiz. This is what I got.

Your score pegs you as economically moderately leftist and socially libertarian.

Moderate economic leftists generally support regulation of free trade and business to assure that workers are fairly treated and prices remain stable.

Social libertarians generally believe that the government should not judge morality, and are generally against the illegalization of things that do not directly affect other people in a negative way. Many strong social libertarians may also be social progressives, favoring legislation to correct what they see as socially backwards governmental regulation, although some simply wish for the government to make little judgment on social matters.

Social libertarian- atta boyo!

But I do have a question with regards to being economically left but socially libertarian. Wouldn't these people still be more likely to support the illegalization of drugs as it would technically affect other taxpayers through increased healthcare and welfare spending?

I mean, the descriptipn says "directly affect", but as a country that has socialized healthcare I know that a majority of provincial spending across the board goes into the health portfolio. Arguably, any policy decision that would increase this spending would have pretty much a direct impact on taxpayers.

Yukona

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Social libertarian- atta boyo!

But I do have a question with regards to being economically left but socially libertarian. Wouldn't these people still be more likely to support the illegalization of drugs as it would technically affect other taxpayers through increased healthcare and welfare spending?

I mean, the descriptipn says "directly affect", but as a country that has socialized healthcare I know that a majority of provincial spending across the board goes into the health portfolio. Arguably, any policy decision that would increase this spending would have pretty much a direct impact on taxpayers.

Which is why you can't have both. That's how I became economically right, I realised that you can't have both

Peoples Liberation Republic

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Social libertarian- atta boyo!

But I do have a question with regards to being economically left but socially libertarian. Wouldn't these people still be more likely to support the illegalization of drugs as it would technically affect other taxpayers through increased healthcare and welfare spending?

I mean, the descriptipn says "directly affect", but as a country that has socialized healthcare I know that a majority of provincial spending across the board goes into the health portfolio. Arguably, any policy decision that would increase this spending would have pretty much a direct impact on taxpayers.

In my opinion, since drug-users will be paying taxes too, they have every right to their universal healthcare. So I don't see the problem with legalising drugs.

Yukona

https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=87.2&d=70.7&g=72.3&s=76.8

My 8values results.

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