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Region: The Confederacy of Free Nations
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When do you think life begins? And when does a foetus gain personhood?
Jaslandia
I measure it by the same standard as death, brain activity.
Jaslandia, Aldaur
Same. I usually base it on a combination of brain activity, heart beat, and ability to feel pain.
Aldaur
So is that for life or personhood? Do you think they are the same?
Jaslandia
tfw stayed up and still no page up to claim land
rly hoping the page isn't set up while I'm asleep and someone steals Ontario, Quebec, and the Maritime provinces bc only eastern Canada is and ever can be Kumania
Sorry. I took some NyQuil and passed out. Developing a cold right now, so I'm treying to take care of that.
Hello friends and foes. Have a nice relaxing Sunday.
[spoiler=Today are:]
Today are:
- Asarah B'Tevet (Israel)
- Babinden (Belarus, Russia)
- Commonwealth Day (Northern Mariana Islands)
- Earth's Rotation Day
- Male Watcher's Day
- National Argyle Day (United States)
- National Bubble Bath Day (United States)
- National English Toffee Day (United States)
- National JoyGerm Day (United States)
- National Sunday Supper Day (United States)
- National Winter Skin Relief Day (United States)
- Show & Tell At Work Day
- Typing Day
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[spoiler=This day in history:]
This day in history:
- 307 Jin Huidi, Chinese Emperor of the Jin dynasty, is poisoned and succeeded by his son Jin Huaidi.
- 871 Alfred the Great leads a West Saxon army to repel an invasion by Danelaw Vikings.
- 1297 François Grimaldi, disguised as a monk, leads his men to capture the fortress protecting the Rock of Monaco, establishing his family as the rulers of Monaco.
- 1454 The papal bull Romanus Pontifex awards the Kingdom of Portugal exclusive trade and colonization rights to all of Africa south of Cape Bojador.
- 1499 Louis XII of France marries Anne of Brittany.
- 1547 The first Lithuanian-language book, Simple Words of Catechism, is published in Königsberg.
- 1697 Last execution for blasphemy in Britain; of Thomas Aikenhead, student, at Edinburgh.
- 1735 Premiere performance of George Frideric Handel's Ariodante at the Royal Opera House, Covent Garden.
- 1790 George Washington delivers the first State of the Union address in New York City.
- 1806 Cape Colony becomes a British colony.
- 1811 An unsuccessful slave revolt is led by Charles Deslondes in St. Charles and St. James, Louisiana.
- 1835 The United States national debt is zero for the only time.
- 1867 African American men are granted the right to vote in Washington, D.C.
- 1877 Crazy Horse and his warriors fight their last battle against the United States Cavalry at Wolf Mountain, Montana Territory.
- 1889 Herman Hollerith is issued US patent #395,791 for the 'Art of Applying Statistics' his punched card calculator.
- 1904 The Blackstone Library is dedicated, marking the beginning of the Chicago Public Library system.
- 1912 The African National Congress is founded.
- 1918 U.S. President Woodrow Wilson announces his "Fourteen Points" for the aftermath of World War I.
- 1926 Crown Prince Nguyễn Phúc Vĩnh Thuỵ ascends the throne, the last monarch of Vietnam.
- 1940 World War II: Britain introduces food rationing.
- 1945 World War II: Philippine Commonwealth troops under the Philippine Commonwealth Army units enter the province of Ilocos Sur in Northern Luzon and attack Japanese Imperial forces.
- 1956 Operation Auca: Five U.S. missionaries are killed by the Huaorani of Ecuador shortly after making contact with them.
- 1961 In France a referendum supports Charles de Gaulle's policies in Algeria.
- 1962 The Harmelen train disaster killed 93 people in the Netherlands.
- 1963 Leonardo da Vinci's Mona Lisa is exhibited in the United States for the first time, at the National Gallery of Art in Washington, D.C.
- 1964 President Lyndon B. Johnson declares a "War on Poverty" in the United States.
- 1973 Soviet space mission Luna 21 is launched.
- 1973 Watergate scandal: The trial of seven men accused of illegal entry into Democratic Party headquarters at Watergate begins.
- 1975 Ella T. Grasso becomes Governor of Connecticut, the first woman to serve as a Governor in the United States other than by succeeding her husband.
- 1977 Three bombs explode in Moscow, Russia, Soviet Union, within 37 minutes, killing seven. The bombings are attributed to an Armenian separatist group.
- 1979 Password Plus debuts on NBC.
- 1981 A local farmer reports a UFO sighting in Trans-en-Provence, France, claimed to be "perhaps the most completely and carefully documented sighting of all time".
- 1982 Breakup of the Bell System: AT&T agrees to divest itself of twenty-two subdivisions.
- 1989 Kegworth air disaster: British Midland Flight 92, a Boeing 737-400, crashes into the M1 motorway, killing 47 of the 126 people on board.
- 1994 Russian cosmonaut Valeri Polyakov on Soyuz TM-18 leaves for Mir. He would stay on the space station until March 22, 1995, for a record 437 days in space.
- 2002 President George W. Bush signs into law the No Child Left Behind Act.
- 2004 The RMS Queen Mary 2, the largest ocean liner ever built, is christened by her namesake's granddaughter, Queen Elizabeth II.
- 2005 The nuclear sub USS San Francisco collides at full speed with an undersea mountain south of Guam. One man is killed, but the sub surfaces and is repaired.
- 2009 A 6.1-magnitude earthquake in northern Costa Rica kills 15 people and injures 32.
- 2010 Gunmen from an offshoot the Front for the Liberation of the Enclave of Cabinda attack a bus carrying the Togo national football team on its way to the 2010 Africa Cup of Nations, killing three.
- 2011 The attempted assassination of Arizona Representative Gabrielle Giffords and subsequent shooting in Casas Adobes, Arizona, in which five people were shot dead.
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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]
Famous Birthdays:
- 1823 Alfred Russel Wallace, Welsh-English geographer, biologist, and explorer
- 1867 Emily Greene Balch, American economist and author, Nobel Prize laureate
- 1891 Walther Bothe, German physicist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate
- 1894 Maximilian Kolbe, Polish martyr and saint
- 1909 Willy Millowitsch, German actor, director, and screenwriter
- 1912 José Ferrer, Puerto Rican-American actor and director
- 1923 Joseph Weizenbaum, German-American computer scientist and author
- 1934 Jacques Anquetil, French cyclist
- 1935 Elvis Presley, American singer, guitarist, and actor
- 1937 Shirley Bassey, Welsh singer
- 1941 Graham Chapman, English actor and screenwriter (Monty Python)
- 1942 Stephen Hawking, English physicist and author
- 1947 David Bowie, English singer-songwriter, producer, and actor
- 1967 R. Kelly, American singer-songwriter, record producer, and former professional basketball player
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Quote of the day
Without tradition, art is a flock of sheep without a shepherd. Without innovation, it is a corpse.
- Winston Churchill -
Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Oelesa, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus, Percyton
Just wanted to say, I support Keith Ellison for DNC Chair.
The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia
Magnatronia, dude, I'm not making up anything I've said about the whole Kongo rp, seriously look it up, Sudkivu [aka South Kivu] is a southernmost province Kongo, seriously, look up, like, a map of the area and about 5 minutes of research and the whole experience is really nice :P
For me, it's for life. Personhood (at least to me) has more to do with sapience, and the ability to act with reason and proper judgement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisdom#Sapience
Aldaur
The Union Party applauds Mdogo's ascension to the Ministry of Justice, and wish him the best of luck in the future!
Percyton
You could easily just say "Vista Major applauds Mdogo's ascension to the Ministry of Justice, and wish him the best of luck in the future!" since it's the exact same thing.
Bearlong, Vista Major, Yukona
That's what telegrams are for
Andromitus
Finished the ITF Charter (with heavy inspiration from the NATO Treaty).
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=baxten/detail=factbook/id=458112
Aldaur, Vista Major
*faints*
Percyton
Alrighty then. What do others think?
I totally agree, but, but, I may have just slightly broken articles 1 and 6 during with my involvement in Kongo
In short, I entered into Khutonga [Kongo, Congo] with a military escort and began non-military actions that included humanitarian aid and economic "research" regarding the southern provinces of the region. I then came under attack from the so called NICA and engaged them, than my zone was directly attacked by a non-member nation [Magnatronia] in which case I defended myself by driving them out of my occupied region with force and continued to push them out of the south.
So does this break either of those articles? and if so, How should I proceed?
Seriously are there more than 4 people reading the DIP?
If not well then I am sorry to disappoint those which read it because it isn't worth the effort drafting it then.
I read it. Peng, if you want others to help you with it, I'm sure more than Merc will help. Unfortunately I really can't, but others will.
Penguania And Antarctica
First of all, what is the NICA. And no you didn't break any rules. It sounds like a defensive thing.
If you're going by number of likes, I've seen plenty of times when your DIPs had more than 4 likes. Readership goes up and down, but I know I read them every day, and I enjoy them every time.
Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton
You alright, Vista? Should I have my driver call an ambulance?
I should try to get that started on the railway. I know my driver has been keeping a collection of memorabilia from my various accidents that I could bring in: a Mr. Jolly bobblehead that I got after I crashed into Mr. Jolly's Chocolate Factory, a floorboard from the brakevan that I crashed into one time, some dirt from the bank of dirt that stopped me after I ran away from Gordon, etc.
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
By the way, no harsh feelings dude. I just enjoy being the bad guy for fun. We still cool.
totally! it's just an RP, no IRL consequences for its outcomes!
Oh come on Baxten I know you weren't paying attention to the IC, but at least remember the In game factions that you made :P BTW you called it the New Islamic Caliphate of Africa :D
Magnatronia
Silly me, I forgot that that was their acronym. I just call them the Caliphate, but they're still fair game. They do pose a threat to stability and justice, anyways.
Andromitus
I'm curious as to why a trade federation would need some sort of military co-operation. However, I can't say that I'm aware if that sort of thing actually happens.
Vista Major
The "Trade Federation" part is from Star Wars Episdoe I (the Galactic Trade Federation). Also, I have no better names; the ITF is much closer to NATO than it is to, say, NAFTA or something like that.
But no need to blow them off the face of the Earth like God did the Twin Cities
There needs to be some more counter alliances round these parts
Continental Commonwealths
I mean, I know you're basically Sweden, but they really do pose a threat to all of us.
I agree; Flynn has one, but it never took off. I may totally restrict new members into the ITF to let Flynn build up his alliance.
Vista Major
I would create some kind of Comintern-esque thing but I'm waiting for the new map system to form.
If you did that that'd be amazing. Unfortunately, I've got lots of homework at the moment, but i may be able to do it today.
May I partake?
How dedicated are you to the realisation of global socialism?
Technically NAFTA is now NAFTT :p North American Free Trade Treaty. That way, a President can't dismantle it, only Congress can and no one wants to.
Thank God.
Aldaur
I wouldn't mind it being renegotiated, but it shouldn't be dismantled. Same with NATO, but that is also a Treaty, so Trump can't just leave :p I wish we were going to stay in the TPP though. While it certainly needed some changes, it was more about security than trade.
The fact that you don't already know the answer says much about how little you know me.
Andromitus
Right, the ASN! Almost forgot about that
With luck, this shall be the world:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4b/Supranational_African_Bodies-en.svg/250px-Supranational_African_Bodies-en.svg.png
For reference, the Assembly of Sovereign Nations:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=730956
Post self-deleted by Aldaur.
I'd much rather we (America) put a halt on free trade for a good long while, especially with the less developed nations. I'd love to see the TPP and other agreements be destroyed. Free trade has taken a harmful toll on the American economy. Free trade has allowed greedy corporations to bypass giving their workers a great job with good pay and benefits by allowing these corporations to basically ship these jobs oversees, mostly to less developed nations, and free trade makes it so these corporations don't lose profit.
I say bring back the tariffs. Punish those who would rather see millions of Americans be unemployed due to their intense greed. Socialist ideals such as having the minimum wage be a living wage can only be accomplished if there wasn't an easy way out for the top 1% to not share the wealth. It is horrible that the only way for one to get a good job is to spend oodles of money on a college degree that sometimes doesn't even end up being worthy. Back when there were factory jobs, one could simply work in a factory and have a great career. These days since the factory jobs have been sent to those less developed nations, here in America one can only choose between attaining a college degree or working at a minimum wage job.
College is not for everyone. There's millions of hard workers who simply want to work and live a life free of immense financial worry without wasting years in school. Back when we had the factories, such a thing was possible. It's time we bring back those factory jobs. Otherwise our only options to let the middle class continue existing in this nation is to make college education tuition-free or create a maximum wage to potentially offset any inflation created by raising the minimum wage to a living wage. If you support these disastrous free-trade agreements, you support the continued attack on the middle class by the greedy top 1%.
Vista Major
Why isn't this person President yet?
Because socialism won't work in America. Have you see how bad our government is at doing stuff? Things work far better when they are privatized. It is just a part of the culture in America. Socialism may work elsewhere, but it doesn't work here. I believe a mix of tariffs and free trade with select nations is the best option. It is more than economics, but also about geopolitics.
Vista Major
What the hell happened to the map?
Vista Major
Your lack of optimism disturbs me
Changes
Aldaur
It isn't a lack of optimism, it is just reality. Different ideas work for different places. Ideas are not universal.
These are sh!tty changes.
Vista Major
I so much want to respond.
Aldaur, Vista Major
You just did.
Vista Major
I think the map looks beautiful now :)
Vista Major
Just because you lost tons of land doesn't mean it's bad. This is what the majority voted for in a very close race.
Vista Major
I mean, there was three days to vote and comment...
You didn't.
Besides, it works pretty decently now.
Vista Major
I was busy...and didn't see it.
Vista Major
If I can only have part of my rightful lands, I want Australia and New Zealand (#82 I believe).
Vista Major
I can do that.
Aldaur, Vista Major
However, in the name of the glorious Lorenthil Dynasty, Aldaur will reclaim our lands! Expel the barbarians!
*Runs around shirtless, yelling and chest pumping with much patriotic ferver* :p
Vista Major
Funny you should say that, I'm planning a thesis arguing that ideas are universal
The map is sexy and gorgeous. Thank Baxten for his tiresome work to bring us into RP Year 2020
Aldaur
I would disagree with that thesis whole heartedly. It is entirely dependant on national culture.
Don't get me wrong, the map lools gorgeous. I'm just pissed I lost my lands :p
Vista Major
I was being sarcastic, but I may just do an actual thesis in spite
You win some, you lose some
Aldaur
I'd like to see that ;)
Aldaur
The conquest or being shirtless? Lol
Vista Major
*raises eyebrow*
https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2014-12/23/12/enhanced/webdr07/grid-cell-13162-1419354068-10.jpg
I'm only half asian mate.
So tell me. How close was this vote exactly? Would a single vote make the difference?
Vista Major
Nope.
Aldaur, Vista Major
Also, whoever moves in next to me, we must coordinate our history. You may be independent now, but you were all once a part of the Fallen Aldauri Empire. Aldaur has not been at it's homeland borders since the beginning of it's history. Aldaur lost it's empire in whatever the equivalent of WW2. We are bent on reclaiming what is ours though.
Point is, all nations nearby should have distinctly Aldauri cultural features so it makes sense to history.
Vista Major
I don't think the word "Must" should be there.
Aldaur, Vista Major
No, it's good :p Anyways, as long as the nation has eastern culture and coordinates with me on our history, it should be good. That way everything makes sense. It makes no sense having a Russian styled Tsardom in Indonesia. Logic must prevail!
Vista Major
You're not going anywhere near Siberia then
Aldaur, Vista Major
I'm in Australia, so no worries. Geopolitical lore must make sense.
Vista Major
As for my lore, I'm fine with having been once part of my neighbours providing that Unfallious separated following a revolution that must have taken place over 100 year ago. Additionally, it must be understood that Unfallious is set to be uncompromisingly hostile to neighbouring nations divergent in ideology.
Jaslandia, Aldaur, Vista Major
Fun fact: Aldaur only produces maps that show it owning all of it's original imperial realms, despite current realities.
#Denial #Spite #Reclamation #SummerIsComing
Jaslandia, Vista Major
Where is your nation going to be?
I hope there will be a list like before.
I plan to retake the area I originally designed Unfallious for: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=unfallious/detail=factbook/id=401957
Aldaur
Looks cold :p
Vista Major
I won't comment on the rest, but I don't think tariffs are a good idea; they're a relic of the past that we've rightfully moved past. Re-imposing tariffs would only lead to trade war when other nations slap tariffs on our goods, which would slow global trade (which wouldn't be good in our increasingly globalized world).
In addition, tariffs would raise prices for the American consumer because the American-made goods, while still expensive, would now be the cheaper option; this would the poor and middle class, the very people the tariffs aim to protect by preserving their industrial jobs.
That's why I'm curious. If Lat can do it, so can you
Eh, not really
Hey Jas. What would you think about joining the ITF, buddy. We're all about free trade and economic cooperation. Just sayin'
Jaslandia, Aldaur
>says he would restrict joining
>personally invites someone
Jaslandia, Aldaur, Continental Commonwealths
I'm*this* close to founding a Eurafrasimericarctic Union
I think that is called the UN bud.
So I am trying to write my national motto in tengwar (lotr elven), but it won't let me do it! D:<
Jaslandia, Vista Major
Possibly. I'm just worried that some nations in the ITF (like you or Tse) still have some expansionist impulses, and I don't want Jaslandia associated with expansionists and imperialists.
Vista Major
Please, the UN will pale in comparison. We're talking a unitary world republic.
Yeah, NS is a bit picky with those kinds of things
Aldaur
Oh I definitely have imperialistic designs. And expansionism? You bet. Jingoism? That too.
In practice however, we tend to mind our own business, and expect the rest of the world to do the same. That thing with Perl was a one off, due to perceived weakness on his part. But with this new map, that is basically retconned.
Jaslandia, Aldaur
#integrity
Jaslandia
I'm gonna invade everyone
We don't wish to expand, we wish to reclaim what is ours. Is it considered expansion when the North toom back the South in the civil war? I think not :p
Jaslandia
Not on my watch
The Royal Republic Of Kumania
Well...
Aldaur
Everyone
It isn't. Aldaur will take it's homeland back and then be on our merry way not disturbing anyone.
Keep telling yourself that
Aldaur
Hope everyone had/has/will have a good day.
Mine is over now. Goodnight. (Here I would insert 'Love you all' but currently I'm really not in a lovely mood.)
Jaslandia
Imma go get the nukes ready.
Pretty sure we've seen this situation before.
Hey, are either #27 or 64 still open, it'd be perfect for my whole history that I have planned for myself
if you could stick to the tech period whilst you do so that'll be great
Put a sock in it
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