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Is anybody in this region in a form of debate? I am starting Public Forum after doing two topics in Lincoln-Douglas. I would like to hear your opinions on the topics.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Minnesota Dakota wrote:Is anybody in this region in a form of debate? I am starting Public Forum after doing two topics in Lincoln-Douglas. I would like to hear your opinions on the topics.

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Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota

Nuremgard wrote:Of course. Forgive me if I sounded patronising. I just think it's cool to hear the opinions of an actual Middle Eastern person on Middle Eastern affairs.

So how do you think someone in the Middle East would describe the region differently than an outsider to the region? And just note, I have only lived in the Middle East, specifically Iraq and Jordan, for about half of my life. The other half has been spent in the US, so I am a bit of an outsider. I, of course, did not follow current events in my first half of my life. I was too busy playing truck simulators. So, in a way, I really am approaching the Middle East from an outsider's perspective.

In fact, I still remember singing the Jordanian anthem in school, not knowing what the words really meant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws1i9_iMIxk

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica

Vetriutan 2 wrote:So how do you think someone in the Middle East would describe the region differently than an outsider to the region? And just note, I have only lived in the Middle East, specifically Iraq and Jordan, for about half of my life. The other half has been spent in the US, so I am a bit of an outsider. I, of course, did not follow current events in my first half of my life. I was too busy playing truck simulators. So, in a way, I really am approaching the Middle East from an outsider's perspective.

In fact, I still remember singing the Jordanian anthem in school, not knowing what the words really meant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws1i9_iMIxk

I think outsiders may see it from their own country's perspective or through the eyes of their own biased media or governments. Not saying that's necessarily bad but their views will be coloured by that. They might see their vision for the ME via the interests of the state they live in. Whereas someone like you will see it in a way what is best for the region. Does that make sense or am I rambling? lol

Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:I think outsiders may see it from their own country's perspective or through the eyes of their own biased media or governments. Not saying that's necessarily bad but their views will be coloured by that. They might see their vision for the ME via the interests of the state they live in. Whereas someone like you will see it in a way what is best for the region. Does that make sense or am I rambling? lol

No, you're not rambling. And to make a point, I don't think my foreign policy interests as an American and as an Iraqi conflict. Gradually withdrawing from Middle Eastern affairs, stopping the illegal seizure of Palestinian land, and withdrawing military and economic support to Saudi Arabia would benefit both the U.S. and the Middle East and its people in general.

Nuremgard, Axeldonia

Vetriutan 2 wrote:No, you're not rambling. And to make a point, I don't think my foreign policy interests as an American and as an Iraqi conflict. Gradually withdrawing from Middle Eastern affairs, stopping the illegal seizure of Palestinian land, and withdrawing military and economic support to Saudi Arabia would benefit both the U.S. and the Middle East and its people in general.

I think since the US and its allies invaded, they have a moral responsibility to stabalise Iraq and then, as you say, gradually withdraw from the region, stop supporting the Saudis and let regional politics take their course.

Axeldonia

Nuremgard wrote:I think since the US and its allies invaded, they have a moral responsibility to stabalise Iraq and then, as you say, gradually withdraw from the region, stop supporting the Saudis and let regional politics take their course.

You might think that Iraq needs and wants support from the US and its allies, but that isn't true. Iraq now has a competent security force and it has repeatedly called for less US intervention in the country. The most Iraq would probably need is some US training to turn it into a professional defense force. For now, Iraq is stabilizing and is slowly becoming safer.

Nuremgard, Axeldonia

Vetriutan 2 wrote:You might think that Iraq needs and wants support from the US and its allies, but that isn't true. Iraq now has a competent security force and it has repeatedly called for less US intervention in the country. The most Iraq would probably need is some US training to turn it into a professional defense force. For now, Iraq is stabilizing and is slowly becoming safer.

Well I am happy to hear that. I'd eventually like to see the West withdrawing from the ME altogether (that wont happen.) Realistically, I want the West to support more moderate regimes like Iran and Iraq.

Axeldonia

Nuremgard wrote:Well I am happy to hear that. I'd eventually like to see the West withdrawing from the ME altogether (that wont happen.) Realistically, I want the West to support more moderate regimes like Iran and Iraq.

But don't forget about "for now". Iraq would very well enter itself into a second civil war between the Baghdad government and its supplementary Shiite militias. They are just cooperating now because ISIS is a common enemy for both. At this current moment, with ISIS being relegated into the desert, tensions between Baghdad and these militias are rising. And it isn't just me who is saying this. Prominent Iraqi politicians also think that using supplementary militia forces was risky and could very well lead to another civil war. But even if that happened, I am confident that Iraq's security forces will eventually defeat these militias. Iraq's military now isn't Iraq's military in 2014.

Nuremgard, Axeldonia

Vetriutan 2 wrote:But don't forget about "for now". Iraq would very well enter itself into a second civil war between the Baghdad government and its supplementary Shiite militias. They are just cooperating now because ISIS is a common enemy for both. At this current moment, with ISIS being relegated into the desert, tensions between Baghdad and these militias are rising. And it isn't just me who is saying this. Prominent Iraqi politicians also think that using supplementary militia forces was risky and could very well lead to another civil war. But even if that happened, I am confident that Iraq's security forces will eventually defeat these militias. Iraq's military now isn't Iraq's military in 2014.

I agree. The militias must be disbanded after IS is defeated or driven out. Iraq needs a standing national army for its own defence. A politically neutral army is crucial for national security. Iraq is a Shia majority country, right? What sect do the current government belong to? If they are Sunni, do they discriminate against Shia or vice versa? Iraq needs a government that will promote religious toleration.

Axeldonia

The Talking Point

Visions of giant pink tigers are a common side effect after Spanelskoans eat their meals.

OK?!

Russkov Soviet, Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Minnesota Dakota, Percyton

Minnesota Dakota wrote:Is anybody in this region in a form of debate? I am starting Public Forum after doing two topics in Lincoln-Douglas. I would like to hear your opinions on the topics.

Not involved in any formal debate groups now, but I used to dabble.

Minnesota Dakota

Trump recognising Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, saying he wants a "great deal" for Israel and a "great deal" for Palestine.

I f*cking hate that man.

Axeldonia

Nuremgard wrote:Trump recognising Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, saying he wants a "great deal" for Israel and a "great deal" for Palestine.

I f*cking hate that man.

Intafada in 3... 2...

Nuremgard wrote:Trump recognising Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, saying he wants a "great deal" for Israel and a "great deal" for Palestine.

I f*cking hate that man.

Everyone does at this point: hell, even Pence can't stand the bastard

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:Everyone does at this point: hell, even Pence can't stand the bastard

Someone shot JFK. Why hasn't someone shot Trump yet?

"Catalonia elections prompt crackdown on colour yellow"

F*cking hell, is this even real life anymore?

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia

Nuremgard wrote:Trump recognising Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, saying he wants a "great deal" for Israel and a "great deal" for Palestine.

I f*cking hate that man.

Well, if Trump's goal is to pointlessly incite Israeli-Palestinian tensions and ruin any remaining credibility the U.S. has as a neutral arbritrator in the Israel-Palestine dispute, then I'd say Trump is succeeding with flying colors. And this is coming from someone who leans slightly on the Israeli side.

Nuremgard, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:Well, if Trump's goal is to pointlessly incite Israeli-Palestinian tensions and ruin any remaining credibility the U.S. has a neutral arbritrator in the Israel-Palestine dispute, then I'd say Trump is succeeding with flying colors. And this is coming from someone who leans slightly on the Israeli side.

Just give the whole region to Switzerland already.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Axeldonia wrote:"Catalonia elections prompt crackdown on colour yellow"

F*cking hell, is this even real life anymore?

Yes it is real life. Real life is always more bizarre than fiction. It reminds me of when they would not superimpose the Scottish saltire on Edinburgh Castle because the flag is now seen as too "political."

Jaslandia wrote:Well, if Trump's goal is to pointlessly incite Israeli-Palestinian tensions and ruin any remaining credibility the U.S. has a neutral arbritrator in the Israel-Palestine dispute, then I'd say Trump is succeeding with flying colors. And this is coming from someone who leans slightly on the Israeli side.

I think I am for a two-state solution.

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Axeldonia wrote:Just give the whole region to Switzerland already.

They'd be a more honest arbiter than the US which has been so far up Israel's arse it's coming out the other end.

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

Axeldonia wrote:"Catalonia elections prompt crackdown on colour yellow"

F*cking hell, is this even real life anymore?

Is this the real life, is this just fantasy

Caught in a landside, no escape from reality

Open your eyes, look up to the skies and see

[...]

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Percyton, Spanelsko

Axeldonia wrote:Just give the whole region to Switzerland already.

Works for me. Switzerland already has four different groups within its borders (French, German, Italian, and Romansh), so they obviously already figured out how to get different groups to get along.

Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia

Nuremgard wrote:the flag is now seen as too "political."

Uuuuugh

IT'S THE BLOODY SCOTTISH FLAG!

If it was something like the Catalan flag which has different versions I'd MAYBE understand. But that's just... Ugh.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:Works for me. Switzerland already has four different groups within its borders (French, German, Italian, and Romansh), so they obviously already figured out how to get different groups to get along.

The difference being those groups don't all squabble over a supposedly sacred scrap of land. Religion just complicates everything, as always.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:Works for me. Switzerland already has four different groups within its borders (French, German, Italian, and Romansh), so they obviously already figured out how to get different groups to get along.

Plus, their constitution demands a neutral foreign policy. It's the perfect candidate!

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Axeldonia wrote:Uuuuugh

IT'S THE BLOODY SCOTTISH FLAG!

If it was something like the Catalan flag which has different versions I'd MAYBE understand. But that's just... Ugh.

They've been trying to erode Scottish culture for years. Union jacks have been appearing all over our food recently. Apparently the saltire has been stolen by us evil nationalists. Yet unionists quite happily burnt the saltire on the night of the referendum. Of course, we couldn't show that on the media. That would make the unionists look bad! Cant have that!

Axeldonia

Nuremgard wrote:I think I am for a two-state solution.

As am I, and so are most sane people for that matter. And I even agree with you that the 'Israel lobby' has a ridiculous amount of influence on U.S. policy. I'm just pro-Israel in the sense that, if I had to choose between Israel and Palestine, I'd choose Israel.

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:As am I, and so are most sane people for that matter. And I even agree with you that the 'Israel lobby' has a ridiculous amount of influence on U.S. policy. I'm just pro-Israel in the sense that, if I had to choose between Israel and Palestine, I'd choose Israel.

And of course the Israel lobby has the trump card. If you dare criticise them, you're just an anti-Semite. They love playing the racist card when it suits them.

Jaslandia, Axeldonia

Nuremgard wrote:They've been trying to erode Scottish culture for years. Union jacks have been appearing all over our food recently. Apparently the saltire has been stolen by us evil nationalists. Yet unionists quite happily burnt the saltire on the night of the referendum. Of course, we couldn't show that on the media. That would make the unionists look bad! Cant have that!

Just took a look at some old news article about that. Apparently the ones who who did seem to be fat english skinhead living in Scotland.

What a surprise.

Nuremgard

Axeldonia wrote:Just took a look at some old news article about that. Apparently the ones who who did seem to be fat english skinhead living in Scotland.

What a surprise.

Fat English skinheads who hate Scotland and the SNP but seem happy to live here and enjoy their free prescriptions et al. They should be grateful that we wouldn't start deporting them back down south after independence.

Axeldonia

I just got out of an interesting conversation in my English class about the use of the n-word.

Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:I think I am for a two-state solution.

East and West Germany?? :P

Nuremgard, Percyton

Nuremgard wrote:And of course the Israel lobby has the trump card. If you dare criticise them, you're just an anti-Semite. They love playing the racist card when it suits them.

Some critiscm of Israel is actually anti-Semitic. But there's also plenty of legitimate and non-bigoted arguments against Israel, and I also don't like pro-Israel groups using the 'anti-Semite' label to shut down valid debate.

Nuremgard, Axeldonia, Vetriutan 2

Nuremgard wrote:Someone shot JFK. Why hasn't someone shot Trump yet?

Because we'll end up with a Republican meltdown: if Trump is removed, then an even more conservative politician takes the reins and will be unable to maintain the alt-right base. If Pence is removed, then Ryan will have to balance the alt-right and the Christian conservatives. If Ryan is removed and Hatch takes over, then they're appeased but we'd have to watch over an even older President than Trump (Trump is 71, Hatch is 83) and just as conservative as Ryan and Pence. Ultimately, Trump is easier to maintain as his performance may actually give the Democrats (let's be honest, the Democrats are the main opposition; independents, Libertarians, Greens, and Constitution are just too weak to draw someone in, and even then, the Democrats may have to go with a favored candidate due to Bernie being 76) a chance to succeed in 2018 and 2020. Odds are, however, that the Republicans will carry Congress given the Democrats neglecting the white middle-class/blue collars that went for Trump.

Nuremgard, Axeldonia, Minnesota Dakota, Vetriutan 2

Nuremgard wrote:Someone shot JFK. Why hasn't someone shot Trump yet?

Note that it took around three years for JFK to be shot.

Note also that as much as his supporters (and detractors) may not be willing to accept it, Trump isn't really all that anti-establishment, as Kennedy was.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/06/world/europe/russia-vladimir-putin-president.html

From the article:

"It began with a worker climbing onto the stage set up for the occasion at the Gorky Automobile Factory — known by its Russian acronym as GAZ — to ask Mr. Putin if he would run, saying: “Today in this hall everybody, without exception, supports you. Give us a gift, announce your decision!""

From Julius Caesar:

CASCA:

"I can’t explain it. It was all silly and so I paid no attention. I saw Mark Antony offer him a crown—though it wasn’t a real crown, just a small circlet—and, as I told you, he refused it once—though in my opinion he would’ve liked to have it. Then Antony offered it to him again, and he refused it again (though, in my opinion, he was reluctant to take his hand off it). Then Antony offered it the third time. He refused it the third time, and as he refused it the commoners hooted and clapped their chapped hands, and threw up their sweaty hats, and let loose such a great deal of stinking breath because Caesar refused the crown that it nearly choked Caesar, because he fainted and fell down. As for myself, I didn’t dare laugh, for fear of opening my lips and inhaling the stinking air."

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Lex Caledonia, Percyton

Mercunova wrote:Note that it took around three years for JFK to be shot.

And it took 4 months for James Garfield to be shot, so that may be a better comparison.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_A._Garfield

Mercunova, Cesorion

[spoiler=Today is December 6 and today are:]

Today is December 6 and today are:

- Anniversary of the Founding of Quito (Ecuador)

- Armed Forces Day (Ukraine)

- Birthday of Prophet Muhammad and Imam Sadeq (Iran)

- Constitution Day (Spain)

- Day of the Ministry of Communications and Information Technologies of Azerbaijan

- Independence Day (Finland)

- Mitten Tree Day

- National Day of Remembrance and Action on Violence Against Women (Canada)

- National Gazpacho Day (United States)

- National Microwave Oven Day (United States)

- National Miners’ Day (United States)

- National Pawnbrokers Day (United States)

- Put On Your Own Shoes Day

- Saint Nicholas Day (Western Christianity)

- White Ribbon Day

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 0963 – Pope Leo VIII is appointed to the office of Protonotary and begins his papacy as antipope of Rome.

- 1060 – Béla I is crowned king of Hungary.

- 1240 – Mongol invasion of Rus': Kiev under Daniel of Galicia and Voivode Dmytro falls to the Mongols under Batu Khan.

- 1534 – The city of Quito in Ecuador is founded by Spanish settlers led by Sebastián de Belalcázar.

- 1648 – Colonel Thomas Pride of the New Model Army purges the Long Parliament of MPs sympathetic to King Charles I of England, in order for the King's trial to go ahead; came to be known as "Pride's Purge".

- 1704 – Battle of Chamkaur: During the Mughal-Sikh Wars, an outnumbered Sikh Khalsa defeats a Mughal army.

- 1745 – Charles Edward Stuart's army begins retreat during the second Jacobite Rising.

- 1768 – The first edition of the Encyclopædia Britannica is published.

- 1790 – The U.S. Congress moves from New York City to Philadelphia.

- 1865 – The Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution is ratified, banning slavery.

- 1877 – The first edition of The Washington Post is published.

- 1884 – The Washington Monument in Washington, D.C., is completed.

- 1897 – London becomes the world's first city to host licensed taxicabs.

- 1904 – Theodore Roosevelt articulated his "Corollary" to the Monroe Doctrine, stating that the U.S. would intervene in the Western Hemisphere should Latin American governments prove incapable or unstable.

- 1907 – A coal mine explosion at Monongah, West Virginia, kills 362 workers.

- 1916 – World War I: The Central Powers capture Bucharest.

- 1917 – Finland declares independence from Russia.

- 1917 – Halifax Explosion: A munitions explosion near Halifax, Nova Scotia kills more than 1,900 people in the largest artificial explosion up to that time.

- 1917 – World War I: USS Jacob Jones is the first American destroyer to be sunk by enemy action when it is torpedoed by German submarine SM U-53.

- 1921 – The Anglo-Irish Treaty is signed in London by British and Irish representatives.

- 1922 – One year to the day after the signing of the Anglo-Irish Treaty, the Irish Free State comes into existence.

- 1928 – The government of Colombia sends military forces to suppress a month-long strike by United Fruit Company workers, resulting in an unknown number of deaths.

- 1933 – U.S. federal judge John M. Woolsey rules that James Joyce's novel Ulysses is not obscene.

- 1941 – World War II: The United Kingdom and Canada declare war on Finland in support of the Soviet Union during the Continuation War. Camp X opens in Canada to begin training Allied Secret Agents for the War.

- 1947 – The Everglades National Park in Florida is dedicated.

- 1953 – Vladimir Nabokov completes his controversial novel Lolita.

- 1956 – A violent water polo match between Hungary and the USSR takes place during the 1956 Summer Olympics in Melbourne, against the backdrop of the Hungarian Revolution of 1956.

- 1957 – Project Vanguard: A launchpad explosion of Vanguard TV3 thwarts the first United States attempt to launch a satellite into Earth orbit.

- 1967 – Adrian Kantrowitz performs the first human heart transplant in the United States.

- 1969 – Altamont Free Concert: At a free concert performed by the Rolling Stones, eighteen-year old Meredith Hunter is beaten to death by Hells Angels security guards.

- 1971 – Pakistan severs diplomatic relations with India, initiating the Indo-Pakistani War of 1971.

- 1973 – The Twenty-fifth Amendment: The United States House of Representatives votes 387 to 35 to confirm Gerald Ford as Vice President of the United States. (On November 27, the Senate confirmed him 92 to 3.)

- 1975 – The Troubles: Fleeing from the police, a Provisional IRA unit takes a British couple hostage in their flat on Balcombe Street, London, beginning a six-day siege.

- 1977 – South Africa grants independence to Bophuthatswana, although it is not recognized by any other country.

- 1978 – Spain ratifies the Spanish Constitution of 1978 in a referendum.

- 1982 – The Troubles: The Irish National Liberation Army bombs a pub frequented by British soldiers in Ballykelly, Northern Ireland, killing eleven soldiers and six civilians.

- 1989 – The École Polytechnique massacre (or Montreal Massacre): Marc Lépine, an anti-feminist gunman, murders 14 young women at the École Polytechnique in Montreal.

- 1991 – In Croatia, forces of the Yugoslav People's Army (JNA) bombard Dubrovnik after laying siege to the city for seven months.

- 1992 – The Babri Masjid in Ayodhya, India, is demolished, leading to widespread riots causing the death of over 1,500 people.

- 1997 – A Russian Antonov An-124 Ruslan cargo plane crashes into an apartment complex near Irkutsk, Siberia, killing 67.

- 1998 – in Venezuela, Hugo Chavez is victorious in presidential elections.

- 2005 – An Iranian Air Force C-130 military transport aircraft crashes into a ten-floor apartment building in a residential area of Tehran, killing all 84 on board and 44 more on the ground.

- 2006 – NASA reveals photographs taken by Mars Global Surveyor suggesting the presence of liquid water on Mars.

- 2015 – Venezuelan elections are held. For the first time in 17 years the United Socialist Party of Venezuela loses its majority in parliament.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1285 - Ferdinand IV of Castile

- 1421 - Henry VI of England

- 1778 - Joseph Louis Gay-Lussac, French physicist and chemist

- 1875 - Evelyn Underhill, English mystic and author

- 1898 - Alfred Eisenstaedt, German-American photographer and journalist

- 1898 - Gunnar Myrdal, Swedish sociologist and economist, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1920 - Dave Brubeck, American pianist and composer

- 1920 - George Porter, English chemist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1929 - Nikolaus Harnoncourt, German-Austrian cellist and conductor

- 1930 - Rolf Hoppe, German film and stage actor.

- 1941 - Richard Speck, American murderer

- 1942 - Peter Handke, Austrian author and playwright

- 1948 - Keke Rosberg, Finnish race car driver

- 1948 - Marius Müller-Westernhagen, German actor and musician

- 1956 - Hans Kammerlander, Italian mountaineer and guide

- 1958 - Nick Park, English animator, director, producer, and screenwriter

- 1959 - Satoru Iwata, Japanese game programmer and businessman

- 1967 - Judd Apatow, American director, producer, and screenwriter

- 1982 - Alberto Contador, Spanish cyclist

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Quote of the day

I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific.

- Lily Tomlin -

Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Vista Major, Lex Caledonia, Minnesota Dakota, Mercunova, Percyton

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:

- Put On Your Own Shoes Day

Most people already do that, no? The only people who don't do that are people who don't wear shoes at all (meaning this holiday doesn't really apply to them), people with a physical or mental disability which prevents them from putting on their own shoes (who aren't able to celebrate this holiday), and rich people who are so rich that they have a servant to put on their shoes for them (and I guess those super-rich people could celebrate the holiday, but it seems like a pretty small portion of the population for a holiday to apply to). The holiday may be about little kids who are just starting to dress themselves, but that development toward dressing oneself (again, assuming the child has no physical or mental disabilities that would prevent this) should happen more naturally, instead of being dictated by a single holiday.

Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, Percyton

http://www.armyrecognition.com/images/stories/north_america/united_states/exhibition/ausa_2016/pictures/Griffin_technology_demonstrator_light_tank_Mobile_Protected_Firepower_US_army_General_Dynamics_640_001.jpg

Well this poor thing is unfortunate >.>

Kalaron wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/06/world/europe/russia-vladimir-putin-president.html

From the article:

"It began with a worker climbing onto the stage set up for the occasion at the Gorky Automobile Factory — known by its Russian acronym as GAZ — to ask Mr. Putin if he would run, saying: “Today in this hall everybody, without exception, supports you. Give us a gift, announce your decision!""

From Julius Caesar:

CASCA:

"I can’t explain it. It was all silly and so I paid no attention. I saw Mark Antony offer him a crown—though it wasn’t a real crown, just a small circlet—and, as I told you, he refused it once—though in my opinion he would’ve liked to have it. Then Antony offered it to him again, and he refused it again (though, in my opinion, he was reluctant to take his hand off it). Then Antony offered it the third time. He refused it the third time, and as he refused it the commoners hooted and clapped their chapped hands, and threw up their sweaty hats, and let loose such a great deal of stinking breath because Caesar refused the crown that it nearly choked Caesar, because he fainted and fell down. As for myself, I didn’t dare laugh, for fear of opening my lips and inhaling the stinking air."

Huh, this sorta matches up with what Hand said earlier on Discord about Michael I: one King dies and another King rises up

The people of Nuremgard wish their beloved Tsar Stefan a very happy 28th birthday today! The nation celebrates with a national holiday.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova

Nuremgard wrote:I agree. The militias must be disbanded after IS is defeated or driven out. Iraq needs a standing national army for its own defence. A politically neutral army is crucial for national security. Iraq is a Shia majority country, right? What sect do the current government belong to? If they are Sunni, do they discriminate against Shia or vice versa? Iraq needs a government that will promote religious toleration.

Yes, Iraq is a majority Shiite country, and the government is aligned with the religious majority. And yes, there is some religious discrimination against the Sunnis in the country.

Vetriutan 2 wrote:Yes, Iraq is a majority Shiite country, and the government is aligned with the religious majority. And yes, there is some religious discrimination against the Sunnis in the country.

That is unfortunate. I hope that changes.

Vetriutan 2

http://www.superarrow.ca/

If this website is real, I pray to god that the Canadian Gov isn't literally as dumb as they look. Source: A friend from the IDT thread.

Edit: Having read it more, yee it's fake. Thank god that it's fake and dumb :3

Vista Major, Mercunova

The K4AM shall fly as a phoenix.

http://iiwiki.com/wiki/K4AM

Hello everyone. Hope you all had a wonderful day so far. :D

Jaslandia, Lex Caledonia, Minnesota Dakota, Percyton

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Hello everyone. Hope you all had a wonderful day so far. :D

I did

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

>TMW you order something from Amazon and find out that it got taken by a person named "Jenn"

God damn, that's a name I will hate for all time.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Percyton, Cesorion, Confederal States

Kalaron wrote:>TMW you order something from Amazon and find out that it got taken by a person named "Jenn"

God damn, that's a name I will hate for all time.

Weird. We have been waiting for packages for a while and Amazon told us they'd been delivered. Well they had not. Turns out the next door neighbour had taken them in and just now brought them to us. But the postman didn't even put a note through our door telling us the neighbour had them. What's more, we've been in all week so I don't see how he didn't just knock on our door. We would have answered.

Mercunova

[spoiler=Today is December 7 and today are:]

Today is December 7 and today are:

- Armed Forces Flag Day (India)

- Day of the Little Candles (Colombia)

- Feast of St. Ambrose (Milan, Italy)

- Flag Base Day (Scientology)

- International Civil Aviation Day

- Letter Writing Day

- National Cotton Candy Day (United States)

- National Heroes Day (East Timor)

- National Illinois Day (United States)

- National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day (United States)

- Spitak Remembrance Day (Armenia)

- Western Province Day (Solomon Islands)

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 43BC – Marcus Tullius Cicero is assassinated.

- 0574 – Byzantine Emperor Justin II retires due to recurring seizures of insanity. He abdicates the throne in favor of his general Tiberius, proclaiming him Caesar.

- 1703 – The Great Storm of 1703, the greatest windstorm ever recorded in the southern part of Great Britain, makes landfall. Winds gust up to 120 mph, and 9,000 people die.

- 1724 – Tumult of Thorn: Religious unrest is followed by the execution of nine Protestant citizens and the mayor of Thorn (Toruń) by Polish authorities.

- 1732 – The Royal Opera House opens at Covent Garden, London, England.

- 1776 – Gilbert du Motier, Marquis de Lafayette, arranges to enter the American military as a major general.

- 1787 – Delaware becomes the first state to ratify the United States Constitution.

- 1842 – First concert of the New York Philharmonic, founded by Ureli Corelli Hill.

- 1869 – American outlaw Jesse James commits his first confirmed bank robbery in Gallatin, Missouri.

- 1904 – Comparative fuel trials begin between warships HMS Spiteful and HMS Peterel: Spiteful was the first warship powered solely by fuel oil, and the trials led to the obsolescence of coal in ships of the Royal Navy.

- 1917 – World War I: The United States declares war on Austria-Hungary.

- 1922 – The Parliament of Northern Ireland votes to remain a part of the United Kingdom and not unify with Southern Ireland.

- 1930 – W1XAV in Boston, Massachusetts telecasts video from the CBS radio orchestra program, The Fox Trappers. The telecast also includes the first television commercial in the United States, an advertisement for I.J. Fox Furriers, who sponsored the radio show.

- 1936 – Australian cricketer Jack Fingleton becomes the first player to score centuries in four consecutive Test innings.

- 1941 – World War II: Attack on Pearl Harbor: The Imperial Japanese Navy carries out a surprise attack on the United States Pacific Fleet and its defending Army and Marine air forces at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. (For Japan's near-simultaneous attacks on Eastern Hemisphere targets, see December 8.)

- 1946 – A fire at the Winecoff Hotel in Atlanta, Georgia kills 119 people, the deadliest hotel fire in U.S. history.

- 1949 – Chinese Civil War: The Government of the Republic of China moves from Nanking to Taipei, Taiwan.

- 1962 – Prince Rainier III of Monaco revises the principality's constitution, devolving some of his power to advisory and legislative councils.

- 1963 – Instant replay makes its debut during the Army-Navy football game in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States.

- 1965 – Pope Paul VI and Patriarch Athenagoras I simultaneously revoke mutual excommunications that had been in place since 1054.

- 1971 – Pakistan President Yahya Khan announces the formation of a coalition government with Nurul Amin as Prime Minister and Zulfikar Ali Bhutto as Deputy Prime Minister.

- 1972 – Apollo 17, the last Apollo moon mission, is launched. The crew takes the photograph known as The Blue Marble as they leave the Earth.

- 1982 – In Texas, Charles Brooks, Jr., becomes the first person to be executed by lethal injection in the United States.

- 1983 – An Iberia Airlines Boeing 727 collides with an Aviaco DC-9 in dense fog while the two airliners are taxiing down the runway at Madrid–Barajas Airport, killing 93 people.

- 1987 – Pacific Southwest Airlines Flight 1771, a British Aerospace 146-200A, crashes near Paso Robles, California, killing all 43 on board, after a disgruntled passenger shoots his ex-boss traveling on the flight, then shoots both pilots and steers the plane into the ground.

- 1988 – The 6.8 Ms Armenian earthquake shakes the northern part of the country with a maximum MSK intensity of X (Devastating), killing 25,000–50,000 and injuring 31,000–130,000.

- 1993 – Long Island Rail Road shooting: Passenger Colin Ferguson murders six people and injures 19 others on the LIRR in Nassau County, New York.

- 1995 – The Galileo spacecraft arrives at Jupiter, a little more than six years after it was launched by Space Shuttle Atlantis during Mission STS-34.

- 1999 – A&M Records, Inc. v. Napster, Inc.: The Recording Industry Association of America sues the peer-to-peer file-sharing service Napster, alleging copyright infringement.

- 2003 – The Conservative Party of Canada is officially registered, following the merger of the Canadian Alliance and the Progressive Conservative Party of Canada.

- 2005 – Rigoberto Alpizar, a passenger on American Airlines Flight 924 who allegedly claimed to have a bomb, is shot and killed by a team of U.S. federal air marshals at Miami International Airport.

- 2015 – The JAXA probe Akatsuki successfully enters orbit around Venus five years after the first attempt.

- 2016 – Syrian army continues large-scale attack and controls the revival (Sheikh Lutfi, Marja, Bab al-Nairab, Maadi, Al-Salhin) in the east of Aleppo backed by Russian Air Force and Iranian militias.

- 2016 – Pakistan International Airline's flight PK661, a domestic passenger flight from Chitral to Islamabad, operated by ATR-42-500 crashed near Havelian killing all 47 on board.

- 2017 – Marriage Amendment Bill to recognize same-sex marriage passes in Australia.

[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1302 - Azzone Visconti, Italian ruler, founded Milan

- 1545 - Henry Stuart, Lord Darnley, English-Scottish husband of Mary, Queen of Scots

- 1598 - Gian Lorenzo Bernini, Italian sculptor and painter

- 1701 - Anders Celsius, Swedish astronomer, physicist and mathematician

- 1801 - Johann Nestroy, Austrian actor and playwright

- 1810 - Theodor Schwann, German physiologist and biologist

- 1905 - Gerard Kuiper, Dutch-American astronomer and academic

- 1915 - Eli Wallach, American actor

- 1928 - Noam Chomsky, American linguist and philosopher

- 1932 - Ellen Burstyn, American actress

- 1949 - Tom Waits, American singer-songwriter, guitarist, and actor

- 1956 - Larry Bird, American basketball player and coach

- 1972 - Hermann Maier, Austrian skier

- 1980 - John Terry, English footballer

- 1984 - Robert Kubica, Polish race car driver

[/spoiler]

Quote of the day

Love has no age, no limit; and no death.

- John Galsworthy -

Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Minnesota Dakota, Mercunova, Percyton

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:

- 43BC – Marcus Tullius Cicero is assassinated.

https://youtu.be/4Ed8vNcMif0

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:

- National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day (United States)

- 1941 – World War II: Attack on Pearl Harbor: The Imperial Japanese Navy carries out a surprise attack on the United States Pacific Fleet and its defending Army and Marine air forces at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. (For Japan's near-simultaneous attacks on Eastern Hemisphere targets, see December 8.)

https://youtu.be/lK8gYGg0dkE

Vista Major, Percyton

Nuremgard wrote:Weird. We have been waiting for packages for a while and Amazon told us they'd been delivered. Well they had not. Turns out the next door neighbour had taken them in and just now brought them to us. But the postman didn't even put a note through our door telling us the neighbour had them. What's more, we've been in all week so I don't see how he didn't just knock on our door. We would have answered.

Yee. Apparently this daft lady signed for my package too. >.>

I should have gone down the moment I heard, honestly.

If it were a neighbor, I wish they'd give it back already.

Nuremgard

Nuremgard wrote:Weird. We have been waiting for packages for a while and Amazon told us they'd been delivered. Well they had not. Turns out the next door neighbour had taken them in and just now brought them to us. But the postman didn't even put a note through our door telling us the neighbour had them. What's more, we've been in all week so I don't see how he didn't just knock on our door. We would have answered.

Usually that’s down to private delivery companies like Yodel or UPS, they’re notoriously sh*tty at delivering the parcel to the right place in one piece

Nuremgard

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Hello everyone. Hope you all had a wonderful day so far. :D

I did, Peng. The Bright Acres retirement home in Ffarquhar chartered me to take some of their retirees to Knapford to see the Knapford High Street Christmas Market, and then to take them home at the end of the day, so that was a nice trip. Can't say the same for Thomas, though. We had to wear our snowplows today due to the snow, and Thomas sometimes complains about having to wear it; today was one of those days where he complained. But, I'm sure he'll get over it soon enough.

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:

- 1993 – Long Island Rail Road shooting: Passenger Colin Ferguson murders six people and injures 19 others on the LIRR in Nassau County, New York.

Gordon: Typical American railways. With how lax that country's gun laws are, I'm surprised such incidents don't occur more often.

Percy: Come on, Gordon, aren't you being a little too harsh? We have engines like Hank and Sam who worked on railways in America, and they enjoyed it very much. And they never mentioned anything about constant shootings on the trains or in the station.

Gordon: That's because Hank and Sam worked on two of the few sensible railways in America. It's obvious the 'Long Island Rail Road' (seriously, it's bad enough to call it 'railroad' instead of 'railway', but what kind of barbarian spells 'railroad' like it's two words? Absurd!) is not one of those railways.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Yukona wrote:Usually that’s down to private delivery companies like Yodel or UPS, they’re notoriously sh*tty at delivering the parcel to the right place in one piece

It was the Royal Mail but they have become crappier since they got privatised.

Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, Percyton

Percyton wrote:I did, Peng. The Bright Acres retirement home in Ffarquhar chartered me to take some of their retirees to Knapford to see the Knapford High Street Christmas Market, and then to take them home at the end of the day, so that was a nice trip. Can't say the same for Thomas, though. We had to wear our snowplows today due to the snow, and Thomas sometimes complains about having to wear it; today was one of those days where he complained. But, I'm sure he'll get over it soon enough.

Gordon: Typical American railways. With how lax that country's gun laws are, I'm surprised such incidents don't occur more often.

Percy: Come on, Gordon, aren't you being a little too harsh? We have engines like Hank and Sam who worked on railways in America, and they enjoyed it very much. And they never mentioned anything about constant shootings on the trains or in the station.

Gordon: ... (seriously, it's bad enough to call it 'railroad' instead of 'railway') ...

A-hem!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_and_the_Magic_Railroad

Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Jaslandia wrote:A-hem!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_and_the_Magic_Railroad

Gordon: Ah yes, one of the many reasons I hate that movie. Like I said before in my last rant against Magic Railroad, it Americanized us far too much for my liking, down to even using the American term 'railroad' in the freaking title! It's patently absurd!

Percyton wrote:Gordon: For an example, look no further than that godawful Thomas and the Magic Railroad movie. Besides the fact that the plot was weird and confusing, the movie took screen time away from us engines to give it to the people from the American show Shining Time Station (which was the vehicle used to present our TV show to American audiences in the 80s and 90s). They also gave the American narrator Alec Baldwin a starring role, while completely cutting his British counterpart Michael Angelis (who was originally cast to voice James and Percy in the movie). It's even in the title, for Awdry's sake: They used the American term 'railroad' instead of the British term 'railway'!

Percy: Personally, I kinda liked Magic Railroad. Yes, I wish we had more of a role in it, but I find its weirdness to be kinda fun and charming. Besides, I never really liked Angelis' voice for me: I think he made me sound too shouty.

Gordon: Fair point, but it's the principle of the thing! You can't leave out the narrator of the original version of Thomas! It's a slap in the face to the show's British origins!

Henry: Don't get your undercarriage in a twist, Gordon. The show's gone global, and it's been global ever since it first aired in the U.S. in '89. If it weren't for expansion to America, we wouldn't have expanded to the rest of the world, and we wouldn't be raking it the kind of royalty and licensing money that pays for your gold figurine of yourself!

Gordon: Well excuse me for wanting to commemorate my unique A0 design and construction!

Henry: You can bask in your A0 pride as much as you want, just remember who pays for that basking!

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

I abolish VAT but income tax goes up 2%. I did not write the issue that way! I did not ask to make up the difference by putting up income tax.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Nuremgard wrote:I abolish VAT but income tax goes up 2%. I did not write the issue that way! I did not ask to make up the difference by putting up income tax.

Such is NS, I'm afraid.

Nuremgard, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Hola everyone!

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia, Percyton, Cesorion

Aquatur wrote:Hola everyone!

Hey there, welcome to the Confederacy: I hope you enjoy your stay here with our little community

Jaslandia, Aquatur, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:Hey there, welcome to the Confederacy: I hope you enjoy your stay here with our little community

Thanks! :D

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Pirate Kingdoms, Percyton

Aquatur wrote:Hola everyone!

Welcome to the region, Aquatur! I'm Percy, King of Percyton and the #6 green engine on the Island of Sodor. I hope you like it here!

Jaslandia, Aquatur, Penguania And Antarctica

Aquatur wrote:Hola everyone!

Welcome to the CoFN, Aquatur!

Aquatur, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Aquatur wrote:Hola everyone!

Hi Aquatur!

I hope you enjoy your stay here! Welcome!

Jaslandia, Aquatur, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Good Morning,

I, New Porto Rico, President and World Assembly Delegate of the Confederation of Nations, announced today my desire to step down as President in January 2018. At the same time, I presented a Executive Order announcing a snap election in which permit any nation from all the embassies that it currently have the ability move and run for President of the Confederation of Nations if desire so. I do not want to indicate that this is recruiting message but diplomatic message between our region.

As President I wanted to say I am honor to have this region as ally and wish the very best for both our region in the new year.

Thank You,

New Porto Rico

President/World Assembly Delegate

Confederation of Nations

Jaslandia, Percyton

I'm going to the dentist on Monday. Hopefully can save my tooth with a filling. Dreading it. And I just know he will reprimand me for not brushing better.

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Nuremgard wrote:I'm going to the dentist on Monday. Hopefully can save my tooth with a filling. Dreading it. And I just know he will reprimand me for not brushing better.

Me debating an opponent:

"Your ideology will destroy christian values!"

"Lol ok"

Me at the dentist:

"How often do you brush your teeth?"

"FORGIVE ME FATHER I HAVE SINNED"

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

I accidentally banned alcohol and video games. I thought I was on my other nationstate

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, Percyton

People hate California so much that even Mother Nature wants us dead.

http://www.tombstonebuilder.com/generate.php?top1=California&top2=1767-2017&top3=WAKE+UP+LIBTARDS&top4=&sp=

https://www.scribd.com/document/227115101/California-is-America-s-Most-Hated-State-According-to-Public-Policy-Polling

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Aquatur

Good Morning and thank you for all the warm welcomes!

Russkov Soviet, Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Tserra, Lex Caledonia, Percyton, Cesorion

Vetriutan 2 wrote:People hate California so much that even Mother Nature wants us dead.

http://www.tombstonebuilder.com/generate.php?top1=California&top2=1767-2017&top3=WAKE+UP+LIBTARDS&top4=&sp=

https://www.scribd.com/document/227115101/California-is-America-s-Most-Hated-State-According-to-Public-Policy-Polling

It's cause you're all dirty liberals.

Aquatur wrote:Good Morning and thank you for all the warm welcomes!

Welcome to the region. Nice flag.

Jaslandia, Aquatur, Penguania And Antarctica

Vetriutan 2 wrote:People hate California so much that even Mother Nature wants us dead.

http://www.tombstonebuilder.com/generate.php?top1=California&top2=1767-2017&top3=WAKE+UP+LIBTARDS&top4=&sp=

https://www.scribd.com/document/227115101/California-is-America-s-Most-Hated-State-According-to-Public-Policy-Polling

My home state :'(

Aquatur wrote:My home state :'(

I have a country which has a policy of Panhispanism. Fancy joining? :P

Aquatur, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Nuremgard wrote:I have a country which has a policy of Panhispanism. Fancy joining? :P

Oh? Do go on.

Penguania And Antarctica

Aquatur wrote:Oh? Do go on.

New Salvatore is based on Spain. The country used to be fascist but is currently reforming. One of the main policies of the Salvatorian Nationalist Party is to bring all Spanish-speaking peoples under one state. So it seeks political and economic union with those Spanish-speaking states willing to join it.

Aquatur, Percyton

Nuremgard wrote:New Salvatore is based on Spain. The country used to be fascist but is currently reforming. One of the main policies of the Salvatorian Nationalist Party is to bring all Spanish-speaking peoples under one state. So it seeks political and economic union with those Spanish-speaking states willing to join it.

Is this an RP thing or a NS thing?

Penguania And Antarctica

Just read about the national lottery in Germany.

Kinda ironic that the first lottery number drawn for the national lottery was 13.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Yukona, Percyton

Aquatur wrote:Is this an RP thing or a NS thing?

Just an NS thing. I don't RP.

Aquatur

Aquatur wrote:Oh? Do go on.

Your name is familiar, were you in the old CFN at all?

Jaslandia, Aquatur, Percyton

Aquatur wrote:Is this an RP thing or a NS thing?

If you'd like to get into RP, me, UCT or Andy can walk you through joining it.

Jaslandia, Aquatur, Percyton

Unfallious wrote:Your name is familiar, were you in the old CFN at all?

I was actually, I was in the first one, the monarchy type region, and this one in the beginning

Jaslandia, Percyton, Cesorion

Unfallious wrote:Your name is familiar, were you in the old CFN at all?

I think so. I remember that name too.

Aquatur do you have also the nation The Eastern Byzantine Empire?

Jaslandia, Aquatur, Yukona, Percyton

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:I think so. I remember that name too.

Aquatur do you have also the nation The Eastern Byzantine Empire?

That's me.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, Percyton

Aquatur wrote:That's me.

Yay. My mind is still intact. :D

How have you been?

Jaslandia, Aquatur, Percyton, Cesorion

Nuremgard wrote:New Salvatore is based on Spain. The country used to be fascist but is currently reforming. One of the main policies of the Salvatorian Nationalist Party is to bring all Spanish-speaking peoples under one state. So it seeks political and economic union with those Spanish-speaking states willing to join it.

Sure, I'll join. My NS nation and my RP nation won't match though.

Kalaron wrote:If you'd like to get into RP, me, UCT or Andy can walk you through joining it.

Will do. I just have to get my claim approved.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Percyton

HMm I think I'm gonna make my own region after taking a break from nation states

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Yukona, Percyton, Cesorion

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:I think so. I remember that name too.

Aquatur do you have also the nation The Eastern Byzantine Empire?

Aquatur wrote:I was actually, I was in the first one, the monarchy type region, and this one in the beginning

Ah yes I remember that. Nice to see you dude

Jaslandia, Aquatur, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Aquatur wrote:I was actually, I was in the first one, the monarchy type region, and this one in the beginning

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:I think so. I remember that name too.

Aquatur do you have also the nation The Eastern Byzantine Empire?

Aquatur wrote:That's me.

I thought the name seemed familiar. Nice to see you again, Aquatur/Eastern Byzantine! And welcome back!

Aquatur, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton, Cesorion

[spoiler=Today is December 8 and today are:]

Today is December 8 and today are:

- Battle Day (Falkland Islands)

- Bodhi Day (Japan)

- CARICOM–Cuba Day (Caribbean Community (CARICOM) and Cuba)

- Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary (Anglican Communion)

- Constitution Day (Northen Mariana Islands)

- Constitution Day (Romania)

- Constitution Day (Uzbekistan)

- Day of Finnish Music (Finland)

- Festival of Lights (Lyon, France)

- Feast of the Immaculate Conception (Christianity)

- Festa da Conceição da Praia (Salvador de Bahia, Brazil)

- Hari-Kuyō (Kansai region, Japan)

- Lady of Camarin Day (Guam)

- Lost & Found Day

- Mother's Day (Panama)

- National Brownie Day (United States)

- National Salesperson Day (United States)

- National Youth Day (Albania)

- Pretend To Be A Time Traveler Day

- Saint Kliment Ohridski's Day (Macedonia)

- Take it in the Ear Day

[/spoiler]

[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 0395 – Later Yan is defeated by its former vassal Northern Wei at the Battle of Canhe Slope.

- 757 – Du Fu returns to Chang'an as a member of Emperor Xuanzong's court, after having escaped the city during the An Lushan Rebellion.

- 877 – Louis the Stammerer (son of Charles the Bald) is crowned king of the West Frankish Kingdom at Compiègne.

- 1432 – The first battle between the forces of Švitrigaila and Sigismund Kęstutaitis is fought near the town of Oszmiana (Ashmyany), launching the most active phase of the Lithuanian Civil War.

- 1660 – A woman (either Margaret Hughes or Anne Marshall) appears on an English public stage for the first time, in the role of Desdemona in a production of Shakespeare's play Othello.

- 1813 – Premiere of Beethoven's Seventh Symphony.

- 1854 – In his Apostolic constitution Ineffabilis Deus, Pope Pius IX proclaims the dogmatic definition of Immaculate Conception, which holds that the Blessed Virgin Mary was conceived free of Original Sin.

- 1864 – Pope Pius IX promulgates the encylical Quanta cura and its appendix, the Syllabus of Errors, outlining the authority of the Catholic Church and condemning various liberal ideas.

- 1907 – King Gustaf V of Sweden accedes to the Swedish throne.

- 1912 – Leaders of the German Empire hold an Imperial War Council to discuss the possibility that war might break out.

- 1914 – World War I: A squadron of Britain's Royal Navy defeats the Imperial German East Asia Squadron in the Battle of the Falkland Islands in the South Atlantic.

- 1922 – Northern Ireland ceases to be part of the Irish Free State.

- 1927 – The Brookings Institution, one of the United States' oldest think tanks, is founded through the merger of three organizations that had been created by philanthropist Robert S. Brookings.

- 1941 – World War II: U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt declares December 7 to be "a date which will live in infamy", after which the U.S. declares war on Japan.

- 1941 – World War II: Japanese forces simultaneously invade Shanghai International Settlement, Malaya, Thailand, Hong Kong, the Philippines, and the Dutch East Indies. (See December 7 for the concurrent attack on Pearl Harbor in the Western Hemisphere.)

- 1953 – U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower delivers his "Atoms for Peace" speech, which leads to an American program to supply equipment and information on nuclear power to schools, hospitals, and research institutions around the world.

- 1955 – The Flag of Europe is adopted by Council of Europe.

- 1962 – Workers at four New York City newspapers (this later increases to nine) go on strike for 114 days.

- 1963 – Pan Am Flight 214, a Boeing 707, is struck by lightning and crashes near Elkton, Maryland, killing all 81 people on board.

- 1966 – The Greek ship SS Heraklion sinks in a storm in the Aegean Sea, killing over 200.

- 1969 – Olympic Airways Flight 954 strikes a mountain outside of Keratea, Greece, killing 90 people in the worst crash of a Douglas DC-6 in history.

- 1971 – Indo-Pakistani War: The Indian Navy launches an attack on West Pakistan's port city of Karachi.

- 1972 – United Airlines Flight 553, a Boeing 737, crashes after aborting its landing attempt at Chicago Midway International Airport, killing 45. This is the first-ever loss of a Boeing 737.

- 1974 – A plebiscite results in the abolition of monarchy in Greece.

- 1980 – Former Beatle John Lennon is murdered in front of The Dakota in New York City.

- 1985 – South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation, the regional intergovernmental organization and geopolitical union in South Asia is established.

- 1987 – The Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty is signed.

- 1987 – An Israeli army tank transporter kills four Palestinian refugees and injures seven others during a traffic accident at the Erez Crossing on the Israel–Gaza Strip border, which has been cited as one of the events which sparked the First Intifada.

- 1988 – A United States Air Force A-10 Thunderbolt II crashes into an apartment complex in Remscheid, Germany, killing 5 people and injuring 50 others.

- 1991 – The leaders of Russia, Belarus and Ukraine sign an agreement dissolving the Soviet Union and establishing the Commonwealth of Independent States.

- 1998 – Eighty-one people are killed by armed groups in Algeria.

- 2004 – The Cusco Declaration is signed in Cusco, Peru, establishing the South American Community of Nations.

- 2009 – Bombings in Baghdad, Iraq, kill 127 people and injure 448 others.

- 2010 – With the second launch of the SpaceX Falcon 9 and the first launch of the SpaceX Dragon, SpaceX becomes the first private company to successfully launch, orbit and recover a spacecraft.

- 2010 – The Japanese solar-sail spacecraft IKAROS passes the planet Venus at a distance of about 80,800 km.

- 2013 – Riots break out in Singapore after a fatal accident in Little India.

- 2016 – Syrian army starts final phase of the attack and progress has been made in the district of, "Sheikh Said" and preparing to storm the neighborhood "Sukkari" in East of Aleppo.

[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 65BC - Horace, Roman soldier and poet

- 1542 - Mary, Queen of Scots aka Mary Stuart

- 1708 - Francis I, Holy Roman Emperor

- 1815 - Adolph Menzel, German painter and illustrator

- 1832 - Bjørnstjerne Bjørnson, Norwegian-French author and playwright, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1861 - William C. Durant, American businessman, founded General Motors and Chevrolet

- 1861 - Aristide Maillol, French sculptor and painter

- 1861 - Georges Méliès, French actor, director, producer, and screenwriter

- 1865 - Jean Sibelius, Finnish violinist and composer

- 1886 - Diego Rivera, Mexican painter and educator

- 1894 - E. C. Segar, American cartoonist, created Popeye

- 1925 - Sammy Davis, Jr., American actor, singer, and dancer

- 1930 - Maximilian Schell, Austrian-Swiss actor, director, producer, and screenwriter

- 1943 - Jim Morrison, American singer-songwriter and poet

- 1953 - Kim Basinger, American actress

- 1953 - Norman Finkelstein, American author, academic, and activist

- 1961 - Ann Coulter, American lawyer, journalist, and author

- 1964 - Richard David Precht, German philosopher and author

- 1966 - Sinéad O'Connor, Irish singer-songwriter

- 1978 - Ian Somerhalder, American actor

- 1982 - Nicki Minaj, Trinidadian-American rapper and actress

[/spoiler]

Quote of the day

Question everything. Learn something. Answer nothing.

- Euripides -

Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Aquatur, Lex Caledonia, Yukona, Percyton, Cesorion

John Lennon was murdered today folks. A legend in life and death.

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Yukona wrote:John Lennon was murdered today folks. A legend in life and death.

Imagine what he would have done and wrote had he lived longer.

https://youtu.be/RwUGSYDKUxU

Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, Percyton

Aquatur wrote:Good Morning and thank you for all the warm welcomes!

Oh jeez. Forgive my rudeness, for I've been busy as of late.

Welcome BACK to the CoFN. My name is Aleksander Dimitri Coltsov and I am the current Premier of the Equestrian Empire and Supreme Ruler of Russia. What can this ol' war horse do for ya?

(Yes. I'm a stallion, not a human. Our Communist anthro-equine nation is very friendly, but also very defensive.)

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Extra Credits have a new series on the Cold War. Their first video is on the Berlin blockade. Pretty cool what the Allies done.

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Jaslandia wrote:Imagine what he would have done and wrote had he lived longer.

https://youtu.be/RwUGSYDKUxU

Ha. Imagine.

Jaslandia, Percyton

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:[spoiler=Today is December 8 and today are:]

Today is December 8 and today are:

- Battle Day (Falkland Islands)

- Bodhi Day (Japan)

- CARICOM–Cuba Day (Caribbean Community (CARICOM) and Cuba)

- Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary (Anglican Communion)

- Constitution Day (Northen Mariana Islands)

- Constitution Day (Romania)

- Constitution Day (Uzbekistan)

- Day of Finnish Music (Finland)

- Festival of Lights (Lyon, France)

- Feast of the Immaculate Conception (Christianity)

- Festa da Conceição da Praia (Salvador de Bahia, Brazil)

- Hari-Kuyō (Kansai region, Japan)

- Lady of Camarin Day (Guam)

- Lost & Found Day

- Mother's Day (Panama)

- National Brownie Day (United States)

- National Salesperson Day (United States)

- National Youth Day (Albania)

- Pretend To Be A Time Traveler Day

- Saint Kliment Ohridski's Day (Macedonia)

- Take it in the Ear Day

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 0395 – Later Yan is defeated by its former vassal Northern Wei at the Battle of Canhe Slope.

- 757 – Du Fu returns to Chang'an as a member of Emperor Xuanzong's court, after having escaped the city during the An Lushan Rebellion.

- 877 – Louis the Stammerer (son of Charles the Bald) is crowned king of the West Frankish Kingdom at Compiègne.

- 1432 – The first battle between the forces of Švitrigaila and Sigismund Kęstutaitis is fought near the town of Oszmiana (Ashmyany), launching the most active phase of the Lithuanian Civil War.

- 1660 – A woman (either Margaret Hughes or Anne Marshall) appears on an English public stage for the first time, in the role of Desdemona in a production of Shakespeare's play Othello.

- 1813 – Premiere of Beethoven's Seventh Symphony.

- 1854 – In his Apostolic constitution Ineffabilis Deus, Pope Pius IX proclaims the dogmatic definition of Immaculate Conception, which holds that the Blessed Virgin Mary was conceived free of Original Sin.

- 1864 – Pope Pius IX promulgates the encylical Quanta cura and its appendix, the Syllabus of Errors, outlining the authority of the Catholic Church and condemning various liberal ideas.

- 1907 – King Gustaf V of Sweden accedes to the Swedish throne.

- 1912 – Leaders of the German Empire hold an Imperial War Council to discuss the possibility that war might break out.

- 1914 – World War I: A squadron of Britain's Royal Navy defeats the Imperial German East Asia Squadron in the Battle of the Falkland Islands in the South Atlantic.

- 1922 – Northern Ireland ceases to be part of the Irish Free State.

- 1927 – The Brookings Institution, one of the United States' oldest think tanks, is founded through the merger of three organizations that had been created by philanthropist Robert S. Brookings.

- 1941 – World War II: U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt declares December 7 to be "a date which will live in infamy", after which the U.S. declares war on Japan.

- 1941 – World War II: Japanese forces simultaneously invade Shanghai International Settlement, Malaya, Thailand, Hong Kong, the Philippines, and the Dutch East Indies. (See December 7 for the concurrent attack on Pearl Harbor in the Western Hemisphere.)

- 1953 – U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower delivers his "Atoms for Peace" speech, which leads to an American program to supply equipment and information on nuclear power to schools, hospitals, and research institutions around the world.

- 1955 – The Flag of Europe is adopted by Council of Europe.

- 1962 – Workers at four New York City newspapers (this later increases to nine) go on strike for 114 days.

- 1963 – Pan Am Flight 214, a Boeing 707, is struck by lightning and crashes near Elkton, Maryland, killing all 81 people on board.

- 1966 – The Greek ship SS Heraklion sinks in a storm in the Aegean Sea, killing over 200.

- 1969 – Olympic Airways Flight 954 strikes a mountain outside of Keratea, Greece, killing 90 people in the worst crash of a Douglas DC-6 in history.

- 1971 – Indo-Pakistani War: The Indian Navy launches an attack on West Pakistan's port city of Karachi.

- 1972 – United Airlines Flight 553, a Boeing 737, crashes after aborting its landing attempt at Chicago Midway International Airport, killing 45. This is the first-ever loss of a Boeing 737.

- 1974 – A plebiscite results in the abolition of monarchy in Greece.

- 1980 – Former Beatle John Lennon is murdered in front of The Dakota in New York City.

- 1985 – South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation, the regional intergovernmental organization and geopolitical union in South Asia is established.

- 1987 – The Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty is signed.

- 1987 – An Israeli army tank transporter kills four Palestinian refugees and injures seven others during a traffic accident at the Erez Crossing on the Israel–Gaza Strip border, which has been cited as one of the events which sparked the First Intifada.

- 1988 – A United States Air Force A-10 Thunderbolt II crashes into an apartment complex in Remscheid, Germany, killing 5 people and injuring 50 others.

- 1991 – The leaders of Russia, Belarus and Ukraine sign an agreement dissolving the Soviet Union and establishing the Commonwealth of Independent States.

- 1998 – Eighty-one people are killed by armed groups in Algeria.

- 2004 – The Cusco Declaration is signed in Cusco, Peru, establishing the South American Community of Nations.

- 2009 – Bombings in Baghdad, Iraq, kill 127 people and injure 448 others.

- 2010 – With the second launch of the SpaceX Falcon 9 and the first launch of the SpaceX Dragon, SpaceX becomes the first private company to successfully launch, orbit and recover a spacecraft.

- 2010 – The Japanese solar-sail spacecraft IKAROS passes the planet Venus at a distance of about 80,800 km.

- 2013 – Riots break out in Singapore after a fatal accident in Little India.

- 2016 – Syrian army starts final phase of the attack and progress has been made in the district of, "Sheikh Said" and preparing to storm the neighborhood "Sukkari" in East of Aleppo.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 65BC - Horace, Roman soldier and poet

- 1542 - Mary, Queen of Scots aka Mary Stuart

- 1708 - Francis I, Holy Roman Emperor

- 1815 - Adolph Menzel, German painter and illustrator

- 1832 - Bjørnstjerne Bjørnson, Norwegian-French author and playwright, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1861 - William C. Durant, American businessman, founded General Motors and Chevrolet

- 1861 - Aristide Maillol, French sculptor and painter

- 1861 - Georges Méliès, French actor, director, producer, and screenwriter

- 1865 - Jean Sibelius, Finnish violinist and composer

- 1886 - Diego Rivera, Mexican painter and educator

- 1894 - E. C. Segar, American cartoonist, created Popeye

- 1925 - Sammy Davis, Jr., American actor, singer, and dancer

- 1930 - Maximilian Schell, Austrian-Swiss actor, director, producer, and screenwriter

- 1943 - Jim Morrison, American singer-songwriter and poet

- 1953 - Kim Basinger, American actress

- 1953 - Norman Finkelstein, American author, academic, and activist

- 1961 - Ann Coulter, American lawyer, journalist, and author

- 1964 - Richard David Precht, German philosopher and author

- 1966 - Sinéad O'Connor, Irish singer-songwriter

- 1978 - Ian Somerhalder, American actor

- 1982 - Nicki Minaj, Trinidadian-American rapper and actress

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Quote of the day

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Take It In The Ear Day. Wow. Now that's kinky.

Jaslandia, Aquatur, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova, Percyton, Confederal States

Nuremgard wrote:Extra Credits have a new series on the Cold War. Their first video is on the Berlin blockade. Pretty cool what the Allies done.

I saw that episode too. I didn't realize the airlift was so difficult. I also thought it was kinda funny that they turned this one pilot dropping candy for the children into a big PR campaign for the airlift.

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Orcala wrote:HMm I think I'm gonna make my own region after taking a break from nation states

Ok. Good luck with it!

Yukona wrote:John Lennon was murdered today folks. A legend in life and death.

Thomas: Agreed. Such a shame what happened to him.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

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