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Region: The Confederacy of Free Nations
Wordplay!
Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica
I'm late, but I'm still doing it dammit!
Cookies and milk, if you'd be so kind.
Snow: Winnipeg got a lot of it last night. Over a foot fell in just a few hours. It's only December and I'm already sick of it.
Carols: I'm also not sure what distinguishes a carol from a song, but Crash Test Dummies' version of the First Noel, the Snoopy Christmas Bells song, and Christmas 1915 by Celtic Thunder.
War on Christmas: *insert frustrated noise here*
Celebrating Christmas: Went to Winnipeg to be with Dad and his side of the family.
Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus, Yukona
I spent a few nights in Winnipeg several years ago. Have you been to the haunted fort?
Lavan Tiri, Continental Commonwealths, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus, Yukona
Hope everyone had a nice Christmas.
Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus, Humpheria Major, Yukona
Sure did
Nuremgard, Lavan Tiri
Heck if Cont Com can do it I can!
Cookies and rum, can't go wrong with that.
War on Christmas? I think it's been blown of out proportion and it's not a 'war', but political correctness has definitely changed it.
I celebrated it with family and by going into work on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. When you get to the age of a young adult, you've got to make of it what you will - for me, the spirit doesn't just come naturally.
For a bonus went out and bought myself a bunch more War films so will be enjoying myself this coming week.
Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Continental Commonwealths, Penguania And Antarctica
Born in Winnipeg, living in Regina.
And you mean the Fort Garry Hotel? If so, beautiful hotel- stayed there a few times. Never experienced anything haunted there, but the staff will always tell you some stories.
Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona
I just noticed the Mungo Jerry, nice!
Latrovia, Lavan Tiri, Au Minbo
It's an odd song choice for the time of year
Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica
https://youtu.be/CO0gJrZVUks?t=15m28s
"Now this is the story all about how my life got flipped, turned upside down. And I'd like to take a minute just sit right there, I'll tell you how I died in a theater in Virginia."
https://youtu.be/1nCqRmx3Dnw
Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus
What did I miss? Doin this on new phone btw
Lavan Tiri
Well, to prevent any conflicts of Interest, neither I nor any Monitor will hold a position in government, I plan to make a factbook for Administrative Actions (A log of sorts) to make sure that everyone can see straight into the heart of Discord, and Christmas time has passed.
Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica
Sooo, seeing as nobody has started them, would anybody object to me starting the Khutongian Civil War RP?
Lavan Tiri, Vista Major
Hey all :D
Following what I said a few days ago, Monitors can't take jobs from the Government anymore, and I am now keeping a factbook of administrative actions undertaken on the Discord.
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=kalaron/detail=factbook/id=743013
Hope y'all have a good day now.
Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica
Yes, that's it!
Lavan Tiri, Continental Commonwealths
So the late Otto von Habsburg, former head of the Habsburg family practiced the tradition of disinheriting any member of the house who married a commoner - except his son who married a billionaire. The rule was relaxed for those two.
Cant imagine why.
Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica
As long as Baxten doesn't say anything about it
Lavan Tiri
I love that man!
Lavan Tiri, Woogieboogie
Seems reasonable.
If you marry a commoner it should be a rich person and not a peasant.
Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri
Well, in Otto's defense, the woman was also the daughter of a baron in addition to being a billionaire, so it's not like she was a full commoner. The dispute was over the fact she didn't descend from the right kind of noble family.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_von_Habsburg#Private_life
Unless you're talking about a different case I'm not aware of.
Nuremgard, Lavan Tiri
I forgot that the Habsburgs are still hanging in there, however decayed and diluted they become. What a world.
Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica
My friend, I think the problem was how undiluted they were.
Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica
There are all sorts of royal pretenders. The Romanovs of Russia are still around (though they're currently fighting over who has the more legitimate to their non-existent throne), as are Karađorđevićs of Serbia (who may have a legitimate chance of restoring their monarchhy), the Wittelsbachs of Bavaria (who are also nominally the claimants to the Stuart throne of Scotland and Britain), and the Hohenzollerns of Prussia, among others.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Vladimirovna,_Grand_Duchess_of_Russia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander,_Crown_Prince_of_Yugoslavia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz,_Duke_of_Bavaria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Friedrich,_Prince_of_Prussia
Nuremgard, Lavan Tiri
Pragmatism rules the day. Although the current Habsburgs alive today are not direct male descendants of the ruling dynasty. The last Habsburg to rule was Maria Theresa. Her descendants merely took the family name to maintain their prestige. Quite a feat for perhaps the most inbred royal family in Europe.
Since all three of you have monarchies, do any of your royal families have such a law like the one I mentioned?
Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica
Considering Jaslandia's current Queen-Consort was born a commoner, no, Jaslandia doesn't have laws requiring the Jaslandian royals to marry other royals or nobles.
And yes, the last true Habsburg was Maria Theresa. Her successor was her son Joseph II; however, nobles and royals belong to the house of their father, and Joseph's father was from the House of Lorraine. Joseph merged the two houses, and the current House of Habsburg-Lorraine was born.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lorraine#House_of_Habsburg-Lorraine
Nuremgard, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica
Everyone can marry whom they want. Everyone can choose the life they want. They can give up their royalty at any time if they want.
We are really liberal about this stuff.
Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri
This is why, in both my monarchical countries, anyone marrying into the royal family must take the name of the family. In Jophiel, my imperial nation, only those of royal or imperial blood may marry into the ruling House, and if they do, they must take the family name and convert to Catholicism.
Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri
What?
Lavan Tiri
The Lavani monarchy has two rules for marriage: whoever marries into the royal family must take the family name (Diones), and if there are no female children eligible to take the throne, the eldest male child must marry a woman or abdicate his claim to the throne. The new queen will then become head of the family.
Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica
Imagine Westeros as a modern, democratic country. I imagine it to be like the UK pre-devolution, with all power centralised in the capital and the masses fawning over an inbred royal family. Though I imagine the monarch would have a more direct role in politics in a modern Westeros.
Lavan Tiri
Oh, a matriarchy. Interesting spin.
Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica
The modern nation of Lavan Tiri was established by a woman, Esmeralda Torresante, who took the surname of Diones. Her female descendants have always ruled, while male descendants take charge of the High Church or military, or go into business or other administrative jobs in the government.
Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica
Very cool. Are men and women equal or do women rule the roost?
Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica
No, not at all. My nation has a throne but not a peerage, so everyone outside of the royal family is a commoner.
Nuremgard, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica
So like Japan then. That's cool. Nuremgard has a peerage/nobility but they don't get special privileges or rights.
Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, Mdogao
Legally and socially, they're equal, at least in modern times. In the past, women were the leaders of government and business, while men had control over agriculture, the military, and the High Church. This wasn't legally enforced, but rather a societal standard. However, with Queen Hermangilda V placing severe limitations on the monarchy and church in the Cathedral and Crown Decree, along with expanding the democratic legislature, the female-dominated standard has become simply a royal quirk, while normal Lavani society is far more egalitarian.
Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica
Thanks for expanding on that. Very interesting to know about.
Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica
I have a very rich headcanon about my nation. Y gracias.
Nuremgard, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica
https://sprinkledwithwords.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/1365337603923.png
Lavan Tiri
You do understand I have to kill you for this, Peng.
Also, y'all, I'm sad. My boyfriend has to go to Arizona for two weeks to deal with his estranged, transphobic dad.
Vista Major, Continental Commonwealths, Penguania And Antarctica, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus
It's two weeks. Pray for him.
Or whatever this situation calls for
Lavan Tiri
I wanna write a book about my nation. Textbook-worthyness
Lavan Tiri
hey lavan, what is this dispatch for?
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=298073
Lavan Tiri
Knowledge is Power. Enroll at The University of Lancaster-Charles Today!
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=744630
Lavan Tiri
Do not kill me, please !! :(
Lavan Tiri
The Union Party wishes everyone a Happy Holidays and well-wishes for the New Year. 2017 will be a year of elevation for the Confederacy!
Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica
*Cringes* that is very dissapointing
Lavan Tiri
Can we please have one region without you trying to establish a political party?
Lavan Tiri, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus
No.
Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica
This is why I hate you.
Lavan Tiri, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica
This is the real reason I am going inactive.
Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica
I probably knew at one point.
Penguania And Antarctica, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus
Not a very good reason, now is it?
Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica
Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona
Yes it is, you're annoying as f*ck.
Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus
HQ of the COFN secret police?
Lavan Tiri
Lavan Tiri
I pretty much couldn't care less if people established political parties, as long as we don't engrain them in our political process such as with the Presidium. *shudders*
I've also come to terms with Vista's frequent flag changes.
Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus, Yukona
Oh my! That seems very mean and harsh, Bear.
Lavan Tiri, Republic City Police, Continental Commonwealths, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona
I agree, and thanks for pointing it out, Percy. [nation=short]Bearlong[/nation], consider this a warning: knock it off with the rudeness. I suggest you attack the ideas, not the person.
Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona
The Speaker's supposed to be a dick. That's just how it works.
Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus
I can confirm.
Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica
A little snark is fine, but some comments just cross the line. Bear crossed the line.
Lavan Tiri, Yukona
I'm sorry, but who the hell are you?
Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona
[Nation]Jaslandia[/nation]
MESSAGE FROM THE OFFICE OF THE SPEAKER
Debate time on The Honorary Citizenship Act [1] is ending soon. If it is your intention to vote, do. If it is your intention to continue debate or ask questions, do. Debate will close at the end of day tomorrow [2] excepting a motion to extend debate.
1. http://s15.zetaboards.com/COFN/topic/10090156/1/
2. https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20161227T2315&p0=867&msg=Honorary+Citizenship+Act+2016&font=serif
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Separately, I am considering appending polls to each bill in the House for voting purposes. This is to replace voting in comments, which will be reserved for debate/questions/whatever it is that you do down there. Send me any questions/comments/concerns about this idea.
Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus
My nation also has a monarchy, but I guess one can say it's not a true monarchy. There is a royal family, but it is very small. Only the direct descendants of the "hero founder" of Kumania have "royal blood". Marriage between a royal and a commoner is the norm as there are no distant Kumanian royals that one can marry, and due to Kumania's strong isolationist stance on the global stage, marriage between a Kumanian royal and a foreign royal is extremely uncommon (has only occurred once in Kumanian history; Latrovia knows what I'm talking about) and the result is the Kumanian royal abdicating their right to ascend to the throne one day as it would be seen as a conflict of interest if the Kumanian royal who married the foreign royal eventually ascended the throne. Questions about Kumania's isolationist stance and true sovereignty would rise as the act of union in marriage could also be seen as an act of union with a foreign power, which the Kumanian people do not support as they like to be left alone by other countries.
The current Kumanian monarch is Queen Emily, who recently ascended to the throne via her father, King Jimmy, being assassinated, and her older sister, Gloria, marrying a Latrovian prince back when Latrovia had a royal family. Emily is the first queen in Kumania's history. While the throne is inherited by the first-born, all previous monarchs had been boys so thus Kumania had a king instead of a queen. Had Gloria not given up her right to ascend the throne, she would've become Kumania's first queen instead since she was the first-born child of King Jimmy. The last name of all the previous monarchs has been Kuma and it is tradition for Kumanian women to assume the surname of their husband if they have a heterosexual marriage. But while it is tradition, it is not law and they can choose whether or not to adopt the new surname. Queen Emily is currently single right now so she is Emily Kuma, and it's unknown what she will choose when she eventually gets married. The recent time since her father's assassination has been plagued with some political instability, so the young queen has focused more on preserving the nation than her personal life.
The power of the executive branch is vested in the monarch. They pretty much have the same powers that like the US President holds, except they aren't elected and don't have term limits. But if the people will it, the monarchy could be replaced with someone who's elected. A referendum that was narrowly defeated by seven votes nationwide to replace the monarch with an elected president preceded the outbreak of the instability. Kumania is called a "royal republic" because it is mostly a republic, but there is a royal family that plays a major role in running the nation.
Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, Mdogao
Very interesting description. Nuremgard's monarch has a list of reserve powers that he can use in a national or constitutional crisis but other than that, he and the Imperial Family play a ceremonial, unifying role.
The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, Mdogao
I can vouch for her. She knows what she's talking about.
Lavan Tiri, Continental Commonwealths, Penguania And Antarctica
What's wrong with regional political parties? It seems pretty natural given the political focus of this region
Lavan Tiri
We once tried when a guy named Valt was here.
One "I'm not running if anyone in my party runs -oh wait you're running? Kicked out of Party- but like I said, not running if anyone else runs" situation later, and we're understandably hesitant.
Lavan Tiri
Here's hoping the same tone is taken the next time a guy like Wryn shows up.
Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Republic City Police
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9OW4g97Lf4E/hqdefault.jpg
Lavan Tiri
Plus there's basically no point to it in a region where 1) just about everyone is a member of the legislature and 2) the population is too small/not diverse enough to really have a proper variety of parties
Lavan Tiri
We tried it for a time with the Presidium -like, parties elected the leaders- and then we had to face the downsides when he abused the system after a member of his party ran.
He didn't believe the person running would do a good job -and he fought with them a half hour to a few days before- so he kicked the person out of his party and ran instead.
People didn't leave the party, but also kinda grouped around certain other groups, so even though most people agreed on it being a horrible move, Valt won the election.
He did other stuff, but let's just say it wasn't a pleasant time for a lot of people.
Lavan Tiri
I think reason no. 1 is actually a good argument in favor pf political parties. I think the best reason is probably "we don't feel like it."
Is the Union Party the only choate political coalition here?
Lavan Tiri
This sounds more like a personality problem with that individual than the actual party
Lavan Tiri
Nice verbiage, though I wouldn't call any party that Vista forms choate -- he has a tendency to found many, all of which have failed.
Lavan Tiri, Mdogao
I have so much to learn about this place
Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri
Also, you imply that "we don't feel like it" is somehow an invalid reason. I mean, if there's no desire to form political factions, then why should they exist?
Lavan Tiri
Maybe, but the story shows an example of what is kinda wrong with parties.
People tend to tolerate someone being terrible -Provided time is given to smooth them into accepting it, rather than abruptly do it- even if it happens to someone generally well loved.
In other words, I don't like them because they make it easier to say "Well, the party is OK with it, so I'm OK with it" even if it's more of a case of people just being silent.
Lavan Tiri
Sorry, That wasn't what I meant at all! I meant "This is a game, after all, play it the way you like."
Lavan Tiri
Ok
Lavan Tiri
No need to apologise, comrade!
I actually tried to create a party with a collective leadership model (remember the Common Coalition), but then Valt's propagandist slander kinda killed things for us.
Lavan Tiri
This reminds me:
[B]Everyone![/B] if you have a problem with how I do things, please tell me.
Like, criticism is part of growth, and I might have more reasons for why I do things than you think.
Seriously, if you want, you can even just send me a PM, I ain't gonna bite.
I mean, Bear, quite clearly, despite our friendship, you are just a horrid person.
Lavan Tiri
"Horrid" is a strong word, sarcastic or not
Lavan Tiri, Yukona
1. Since when were we friends?
b. I can't deny that. Though I fail to see the relevance of my personality to the situation -- at one point I commanded a majority, then Valt started saying sh*t, and then I lost just about all my members.
Lavan Tiri
We should avoid having political parties form as long as possible. They can be extremely divisive if they are seen as influential. However, political parties forming is inevitable. If the region gets much larger, and more diverse, the want for political parties to be formed will increase rapidly as people with differing views tend to find comfort when they are organized with others who are similar to them. From what I've witnessed in my short time here, this region is already fairly diverse, but there is a sense of community and unity among many. Such a bond only lasts as long as the community remains small. Once the community grows, that overall unity will cease to exist or at least become weaker since it's very difficult to maintain such unity when there is so many in a community. Political parties will naturally form eventually, but for the time being let's enjoy this period where we can live without their presence.
Lavan Tiri
Hey, is anyone here/does anyone here know anyone who is willing to help me make a map for an RP I'm working on? It doesn't have to be really pretty/detailed--I just can't do it on my tablet.
Penguania And Antarctica
The question of whether or not to keep the Kumanian Royal Family remains a huge topic of debate in the current day. In the 50's, a global nuclear war plagued the world and in the aftermath, factions and clans took over. It was chaos. And among the chaos, the Kuma Clan, led by Tommy Kuma, defeated several of the other clans in the area to unite the land that would become Kumania. Tommy Kuma was seen as a hero as he helped his fellow people rise from the ashes of chaos and anarchy in a post-apocalyptic world.
There's many who still regard him and his descendants as heroes who should continue being honored and running the nation. But Kumania is also extremely progressive, which has led to many on the left to question whether or not they should support abolishing the monarchy. The current queen and her father are both extremely progressive, and helped turn Kumania into a progressive nation, and therefore an ally of progressives, so it's a conflict of conscious among these progressive politicians. They must choose whether to abolish such an undemocratic part of the government, or turn against a major political ally. The nation is evenly split on whether or not to abolish the royal family, as evidenced in the recent referendum that was very narrowly defeated. The Royal Republic is at a crossroads in deciding whether or not it will remain the Royal Republic.
It's possible that such a compromise of keeping the royals but only having them be ceremonial could be achieved, but tensions are still high across Kumania and it's unlikely that they will calm down for a while as Kumania technically is still embroiled in civil war, but it's not as noticeable as it was months ago. The civil war started out with communists rebelling and then fascists launching a counterrevolution and then the communists and government uniting against the fascists and now it's mostly guerrilla warfare in the northern strongly-conservative rural areas of Kumania.
Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri
Why does "OK" remind you of this?
Lavan Tiri
Mostly because I didn't know exactly about it.
I will say this, he sure did say quite a bit of sh!t.
Lavan Tiri
Nuremgard loves its monarchy despite its very liberal nature.
Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica
Really, it was me talking about how people are sometimes silent, even if they don't like what's going on.
This can lead to a brewing of anger, and that is, naturally, bad.
Lavan Tiri
Give the me the deets, and I will see about coming up with one for you.
Lavan Tiri
Considering I've already dealt with The Wyrenian Republic in a similar tone, I don't think you need to worry about that.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=22842919
Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri
Don't know, that sounds more friendly, and less like a "Knock it off, or I'll make you knock it off" especially considering he said stuff a few times after wards.
Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Republic City Police
I quite agree. I get the sense this is a more casual comment rather than an insult, but regardless, I'm keeping an eye on you Kalaron.
I'm only human, and I can't be up every hour of the day to keep an eye on people. Plus, my defense is that Wyr's stuff, though belligerent and hostile, was more rule-violating in tone than in actual content, so it can be hard to judge in cases like that. My policing in that instance was more to prevent further escalation that could lead to blatant rule-breaking, rather than to punish people for borderline rule-breaking.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=22833399
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=22833752
However, I appreciate constructive criticism, and I'll do my best to be more consistent in the future.
Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica
I just realized something, RCP actually has no power here.
Huh, thought it was a constable.
I'm also unsure of if you're joking or not, but alrighty.
Least no one can say I ain't on pretty much 24/7 :P
Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Republic City Police, Penguania And Antarctica
I am being serious. As for my status, I had presumed that the Constabulary from our previous region had carried over, and I was a part of it. If I am not a current Constable, I will gladly re-apply for membership if someone could tell me how to re-apply.
Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica
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