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Nuremgard wrote:Unionist means wrong, Percy.

Ok. I think Gordon takes offense to that, though. He doesn't sound happy right now.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Percyton wrote:Ok. I think Gordon takes offense to that, though. He doesn't sound happy right now.

Gordon can go whistle.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Nuremgard wrote:Gordon can go whistle.

Gordon: "What cheek! Fancy speaking to me like that!"

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Percyton wrote:Gordon: "What cheek! Fancy speaking to me like that!"

Kick his [nation=short]ss[/nation], Gordon!

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Kick his [nation=short]ss[/nation], Gordon!

Hmm, I imagine that happens with some frequency to our poor friend SS...

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, Percyton

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Kick his [nation=short]ss[/nation], Gordon!

We're talking about Gordon, not Red Forman. Gordon would rather brag about how superior and fast he is than actually do something (well, unless that 'something' is pulling the express).

https://youtu.be/wiJEMK4Z96A

Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Jaslandia wrote:We're talking about Gordon, not Red Forman. Gordon would rather brag about how superior and fast he is than actually do something (well, unless that 'something' is pulling the express).

https://youtu.be/wiJEMK4Z96A

Plus, Gordon said he's "above" stuff like that, and he doesn't think it would be 'dingy-fried' -- No no, I mean 'dignified'. Sorry.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:*sigh*

Is something wrong, Peng?

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Percyton wrote:Is something wrong, Peng?

Just feel a bit lonely.

Jaslandia, Yukona, Percyton

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Just feel a bit lonely.

Cheer up, Peng! You always have us!

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Percyton wrote:Cheer up, Peng! You always have us!

No offence but i hope you won't be the only one I'll have.

Yukona, Percyton

Percyton wrote:Plus, Gordon said he's "above" stuff like that, and he doesn't think it would be 'dingy-fried' -- No no, I mean 'dignified'. Sorry.

"Dingy-fried". *melts*

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Continental Commonwealths wrote:"Dingy-fried". *melts*

"Hurry up! We need more ice."

*penguins arrive with buckets full of ice to stop CC's melting process*

Jaslandia, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus, Percyton

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:No offence but i hope you won't be the only one I'll have.

I won't be the only one! I meant all of us in the CoFN. And I'm sure there are also people outside of NS you can reach out to.

Continental Commonwealths wrote:"Dingy-fried". *melts*

Did I do something wrong? Is my boiler too hot?

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:"Hurry up! We need more ice."

*penguins arrive with buckets full of ice to stop CC's melting process*

*Rushes to get a refrigerated van from the yards*

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Woogieboogie wrote:I've been contemplating this, and I think I live near mountains (secretly? But not so secretly) hiding Nuke Silos. I just hope it hits close enough to incinerate me in the initial blast.

I agree. I would much prefer to die instantly in a nuclear blast than have to try to survive in a post-nuclear world.

Penguania And Antarctica

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Just feel a bit lonely.

Know that feeling, Peng. I'm working in another city away from my family all the way down to the night if Christmas Eve, and won't see the bf for almost a month. Hang in there!

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Mdogao wrote:I agree. I would much prefer to die instantly in a nuclear blast than have to try to survive in a post-nuclear world.

*cocks shotgun* There's three things I love. God. Guns. Freedom. God didn't give me permission to die. Guns gave me the ability to survive and freedom...I bring that with me B^]

Lavan Tiri

Yukona wrote:Guns gave me the ability to survive ]

You can't purify water by shooting it

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri

Mdogao wrote:You can't purify water by shooting it

Well America has freedom...and clean water.....Now I'm not mathematicsatician but something is tells me you done goofed

Lavan Tiri, Mdogao

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Just feel a bit lonely.

I can relate very well, Peng. I get these types of days sometimes. I cheer myself up with playing games and listening to sad music (I know, strange combo), but you do what makes you happy.

Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Yukona wrote:Well America has freedom...and clean water.....Now I'm not mathematicsatician but something is tells me you done goofed

Yes. I must have. Enjoy. I'll be in my country, enjoying universal healthcare and world benchmark human rights.

Lavan Tiri

Mdogao wrote:Yes. I must have. Enjoy. I'll be in my country, enjoying universal healthcare and world benchmark human rights.

Another win for freedom

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Mdogao

Yukona wrote:Another win for freedom

https://youtu.be/IhnUgAaea4M

Lavan Tiri

Yukona wrote:Another win for freedom

Yes

Lavan Tiri

Jaslandia wrote:https://youtu.be/IhnUgAaea4M

I knew it was gonna come

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri

I get on and NGA and CFN are both locked and dead. Guess majority came here. Sad to see it fallen.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

The Russian Federations wrote:I get on and NGA and CFN are both locked and dead. Guess majority came here. Sad to see it fallen.

RF? It's been so long!

The Russian Federations, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:RF? It's been so long!

You bet. I've been running a region of my own the past two years. Just dropping in and out. Lol

Sad to see things have resorted the way it did. Though I guess silver not having the founder account over was a d*ck move for all of us who been there from the NGA/early CFN times.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

The Russian Federations wrote:You bet. I've been running a region of my own the past two years. Just dropping in and out. Lol

Sad to see things have resorted the way it did. Though I guess silver not having the founder account over was a d*ck move for all of us who been there from the NGA/early CFN times.

Yeah, Silver went full-dictator in the CFN's last days. Although, after we left the NGA for the second time (we went back to the NGA after Silver's tyranny forced us to leave he CFN), we also had a region called The Most Serene Republic Of Montaris, and our founder there (Ruclax) also went full-dictator, so I guess history repeats itself..

Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus

Mdogao wrote:You can't purify water by shooting it

Clearly you don't know what incendiary ammunition is :P

The Russian Federations wrote:I get on and NGA and CFN are both locked and dead. Guess majority came here. Sad to see it fallen.

Was sad times abound.

We've gotten a victory here, though.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:Yeah, Silver went full-dictator in the CFN's last days. Although, after we left the NGA for the second time (we went back to the NGA after Silver's tyranny forced us to leave he CFN), we also had a region called The Most Serene Republic Of Montaris, and our founder there (Ruclax) also went full-dictator, so I guess history repeats itself..

Guess we keep making region until the root of evil is rooted out. lol

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

The Russian Federations wrote:Guess we keep making region until the root of evil is rooted out. lol

That was meant as a joke, but is actually pretty true.

We've had three failed examples of what happens when manipulators get into seats of power, so here's hoping democracy continues to thrive here.

The Russian Federations, Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Kalaron wrote:That was meant as a joke, but is actually pretty true.

We've had three failed examples of what happens when manipulators get into seats of power, so here's hoping democracy continues to thrive here.

I'm happy to see the majority of the region staged toghether despite what the old few have done. There's always hope as long as the regional family sticks toghether.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus

The Russian Federations wrote:I'm happy to see the majority of the region staged toghether despite what the old few have done. There's always hope as long as the regional family sticks toghether.

Damn straight.

We just gotta keep moving forward, and we can't let dictators rise.

Y'all can count on the Discord to keep democracy open, if nothing else.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

The Russian Federations wrote:I'm happy to see the majority of the region staged toghether despite what the old few have done. There's always hope as long as the regional family sticks toghether.

Indeed.

Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

In other news, I'm gonna try to get a new factbook describing the mission statement for Admins, what my vision for them is, and what positions there are.

Lavan Tiri, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

Kalaron wrote:In other news, I'm gonna try to get a new factbook describing the mission statement for Admins, what my vision for them is, and what positions there are.

#KalministraSul

Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Vista Major wrote:#KalministraSul

What even?

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

So I've added a functional religion section to my overview,

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=andromitus/detail=factbook/id=644081

I though Polytheism would be a fun way to go with the meager 3% of my population that is religious. I'm also thinking of dedicating a full factbook to it later

Lavan Tiri, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

The Russian Federations wrote:Guess we keep making region until the root of evil is rooted out. lol

Nice flag. Not biased here at all due to my own flag.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:Yeah, Silver went full-dictator in the CFN's last days. Although, after we left the NGA for the second time (we went back to the NGA after Silver's tyranny forced us to leave he CFN), we also had a region called The Most Serene Republic Of Montaris, and our founder there (Ruclax) also went full-dictator, so I guess history repeats itself..

Ru keeps trying to get MSRM to function.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus

Lavan Tiri wrote:Ru keeps trying to get MSRM to function.

Ru himself seems to have moved to Great Britain

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus wrote:Ru himself seems to have moved to Great Britain

Not before he tried to reintroduce an elected form of government to his "October" Charter.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus

Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus wrote:Ru himself seems to have moved to Great Britain

Not the real Great Britain, to the region Great Britain

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus wrote:Not the real Great Britain, to the region Great Britain

Although, I think it would have been funny if Ru actually moved to Britain in real life over what he himself called "just a game".

Lavan Tiri, Continental Commonwealths, Penguania And Antarctica, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus, Percyton

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=kalaron/detail=factbook/id=743013

Is very small, but covers what I wanted to say pretty well for tonight at least.

Lavan Tiri, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:Although, I think it would have been funny if Ru actually moved to Britain in real life over what he himself called "just a game".

His frat bros made him do it.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Tserra, Humpheria Major

Kalaron wrote:What even?

#KalaSul mixed with #Administration

Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:Although, I think it would have been funny if Ru actually moved to Britain in real life over what he himself called "just a game".

#TheKallyBible

#KingMercVersion

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Continental Commonwealths wrote:His frat bros made him do it.

#BanFratsNow

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri

Vista Major wrote:#BanFratsNow

How else will high profile politicians and CEOs to be channel their latent homoerotic tendencies?

Also, think of the lost fantasy porn opportunities!

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

Continental Commonwealths wrote:How else will high profile politicians and CEOs to be channel their latent homoerotic tendencies?

Also, think of the lost fantasy porn opportunities!

1) Twitter

2) There's always the Chem lab

Lavan Tiri

Vista Major wrote:#BanFratsNow

I think they are a doing a good job of killing themselves

Lavan Tiri, Vista Major

Mdogao wrote:I think they are a doing a good job of killing themselves

The college I'm looking at doesn't do frats

Yet

The student Senate wants the administration to consider allowing it on campus

I think frats are still going fairly strong. It's a little sad, but we'll hopefully live

Lavan Tiri

Vista Major wrote:1) Twitter

2) There's always the Chem lab

1) Far too little possibility for physical touching.

2) Corrosive chemicals. *shudders*

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

Continental Commonwealths wrote:1) Far too little possibility for physical touching.

2) Corrosive chemicals. *shudders*

1) Fine, Facebook Groups, then. Plenty of secret hookup joints there for retired pastors

2) Don't hate it till you try it. I mean, talk about a fire in your loins

Lavan Tiri, Continental Commonwealths, Penguania And Antarctica, Freewire

Vista Major wrote:1) Fine, Facebook Groups, then. Plenty of secret hookup joints there for retired pastors

2) Don't hate it till you try it. I mean, talk about a fire in your loins

Your "bearback" post a while back notwithstanding, this is the funniest thing you've ever posted.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Your "bearback" post a while back notwithstanding, this is the funniest thing you've ever posted.

Nothing wrong with [I]mixing[/I] it up every once in a while

Lavan Tiri

I have a new bill that is ready to be voted on! Special thanks to [nation=short]Tserra[/nation], whose "Percyton Honorary Citizenship Act" inspired this bill.

http://s15.zetaboards.com/COFN/topic/10090156/1/

Lavan Tiri, Continental Commonwealths, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Jaslandia wrote:Although, I think it would have been funny if Ru actually moved to Britain in real life over what he himself called "just a game".

Britain/the Mainland is pretty nice, though, so I wouldn't blame him. I personally think Sodor is nicer, but maybe I'm biased.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

Nuremgard wrote:Nice flag. Not biased here at all due to my own flag.

(I've had my homeflag since the beginning. Though the only difference now is I got the shield behind the coat of arms.

Nice to see another nation using the flag though. ^_^)

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

To the people who question the need of a Ministry of Engagement. Thank you. :P

Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus, Freewire, Woogieboogie

Latrovia wrote:To the people who question the need of a Ministry of Engagement. Thank you. :P

What's that supposed to mean?

Lavan Tiri

Yukona wrote:What's that supposed to mean?

I presume he is either being sarcastic or opposed to a Ministry of Divorce as well. ;-)

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Continental Commonwealths, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus, Yukona

Hey friends. I wish all of you a wonderful day. =)

[spoiler=Today are:]

Today are:

- Armed Forces Day (Philippines)

- Crossword Puzzle Day

- Dongzhi Festival (East Asia)

- Don’t Make Your Bed Day

- Forefathers' Day (Plymouth, Massachusetts, United States)

- Humbug Day

- International Dalek Remembrance Day

- Look On The Bright Side Day

- National Flashlight Day (United States)

- National French Fried Shrimp Day (United States)

- National Homeless Persons’ Remembrance Day (United States)

- National Short Story Day (United Kingdom)

- Pancha Ganapati (Saiva Siddhanta Church)

- Phileas Fogg Win A Wager Day

- Ribbon Candy Day

- São Tomé Day (São Tomé and Príncipe)

- Summer solstice (Southern Hemisphere)

- Turkish Language Day (Republic of Macedonia)

- Winter solstice (Northern Hemisphere)

- Yule (Neopagan Wheel of the Year)

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 69 – The Roman Senate declares Vespasian emperor of Rome, the last in the Year of the Four Emperors.

- 1124 – Pope Honorius II is elected.

- 1140 – Conrad III of Germany besieged Weinsberg.

- 1237 – The city of Ryazan is sacked by the Mongol army of Batu Khan.

- 1361 – The Battle of Linuesa is fought in the context of the Spanish Reconquista between the forces of the Emirate of Granada and the combined army of the Kingdom of Castile and of Jaén resulting in a Castilian victory.

- 1620 – Plymouth Colony: William Bradford and the Mayflower Pilgrims land on what is now known as Plymouth Rock in Plymouth, Massachusetts.

- 1826 – American settlers in Nacogdoches, Mexican Texas, declare their independence, starting the Fredonian Rebellion.

- 1861 – Medal of Honor: Public Resolution 82, containing a provision for a Navy Medal of Valor, is signed into law by President Abraham Lincoln.

- 1872 – Challenger expedition: HMS Challenger, commanded by Captain George Nares, sails from Portsmouth, England.

- 1879 – World premiere of Henrik Ibsen's A Doll's House at the Royal Theatre in Copenhagen, Denmark.

- 1883 – The Royal Canadian Dragoons and The Royal Canadian Regiment, the first Permanent Force cavalry and infantry regiments of the Canadian Army, are formed.

- 1907 – The Chilean Army commits a massacre of at least 2,000 striking saltpeter miners in Iquique, Chile.

- 1910 – An underground explosion at the Hulton Bank Colliery No. 3 Pit in Over Hulton, Westhoughton, England, kills 344 miners.

- 1913 – Arthur Wynne's "word-cross", the first crossword puzzle, is published in the New York World.

- 1923 – United Kingdom and Nepal formally signed an agreement of friendship, called the Nepal–Britain Treaty of 1923, which superseded the Treaty of Sugauli signed in 1816.

- 1936 – First flight of the Junkers Ju 88 multi-role combat aircraft.

- 1937 – Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, the world's first full-length animated feature, premieres at the Carthay Circle Theatre.

- 1941 – World War II: A formal treaty of alliance between Thailand and Japan is signed in the presence of the Emerald Buddha in Wat Phra Kaew, Thailand.

- 1962 – Rondane National Park is established as Norway's first national park.

- 1963 – The episode of intercommunal violence called "Bloody Christmas" begins in Cyprus, ultimately resulting in the displacement of 25,000-30,000 Turkish Cypriots and destruction of more than 100 villages.

- 1967 – Louis Washkansky, the first man to undergo a heart transplant, dies in Cape Town, South Africa, having lived for 18 days after the transplant.

- 1968 – Apollo program: Apollo 8 is launched from the Kennedy Space Center, placing its crew on a lunar trajectory for the first visit to another celestial body by humans.

- 1973 – The Geneva Conference on the Arab–Israeli conflict opens.

- 1979 – Lancaster House Agreement: An independence agreement for Rhodesia is signed in London by Lord Peter Carrington, Sir Ian Gilmour, Robert Mugabe, Joshua Nkomo, Bishop Abel Muzorewa and S.C. Mundawarara.

- 1988 – A bomb explodes on board Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland, killing 270.

- 1994 – Mexican volcano Popocatépetl, dormant for 47 years, erupts gases and ash.

- 1995 – The city of Bethlehem passes from Israeli to Palestinian control.

- 1999 – The Spanish Civil Guard intercepts a van loaded with 950 kg of explosives that ETA intended to use to blow up Torre Picasso in Madrid, Spain.

- 2004 – Iraq War: A suicide bomber killed 22 at the forward operating base next to the main U.S. military airfield at Mosul, Iraq, the single deadliest suicide attack on American soldiers.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1118 – Thomas Becket, English archbishop and saint

- 1804 – Benjamin Disraeli, English lawyer and politician, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom

- 1891 – John William McCormack, American lawyer and politician, 53rd Speaker of the United States House of Representatives

- 1892 – Walter Hagen, American golfer

- 1917 – Heinrich Böll, German novelist and short story writer, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1918 – Kurt Waldheim, Austrian colonel, war criminal, and politician, 9th President of Austria

- 1937 – Jane Fonda, American actress, producer, and activist

- 1940 – Frank Zappa, American singer-songwriter, guitarist, and producer

- 1942 – Hu Jintao, Chinese engineer and politician, 6th President of China

- 1942 – Reinhard Mey, German singer-songwriter

- 1947 – Paco de Lucía, Spanish guitarist, songwriter, and producer

- 1948 – Samuel L. Jackson, American actor and producer

- 1950 – Jeffrey Katzenberg, American screenwriter and producer, co-founded DreamWorks Animation

- 1954 – Chris Evert, American tennis player and coach

- 1959 – Florence Griffith Joyner, American sprinter and actress

- 1965 – Anke Engelke, Canadian-German actress, director, and screenwriter

- 1966 – Kiefer Sutherland, Canadian actor, director, and producer

- 1982 – Philip Humber, American baseball player

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Quote of the day

Love means to commit yourself without guarantee.

- Robert Baden-Powell -

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Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Continental Commonwealths, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus, Yukona

Aleisteria wrote:I presume he is either being sarcastic or opposed to a Ministry of Divorce as well. ;-)

I got what he is doing, I'm asking what he means.

Lavan Tiri

The Empire of Freewire

1 day 21 hours ago

Hello

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[B] Lavan Tiri, Vista Major, Penguania and Antarctica, The United Providences of Perland, and 2 othersSenatus Popolusque Mercunovus, and Yukona[/B]

What the hell....

How is Hello...

What...

I'm at loss for words right now.

Lavan Tiri, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus

How are y'all?

Lavan Tiri, Vista Major, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, Freewire, Yukona

Kalaron wrote:How are y'all?

Whooooooooop!!!

Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Oelesa wrote:Whooooooooop!!!

bored

Lavan Tiri

Kalaron wrote:How are y'all?

I'm doing fine so far.

Lavan Tiri

Freewire wrote:The Empire of Freewire

1 day 21 hours ago

Hello

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[B] Lavan Tiri, Vista Major, Penguania and Antarctica, The United Providences of Perland, and 2 othersSenatus Popolusque Mercunovus, and Yukona[/B]

What the hell....

How is Hello...

What...

I'm at loss for words right now.

We're a [I]like[/I]able community

Kalaron wrote:How are y'all?

Purdy good

Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, Freewire, Yukona

We like everyone's posts. :P

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Freewire, Yukona

MESSAGE FROM THE OFFICE OF THE SPEAKER

The Election Privacy Amendment has passed the House of Delegates. I call upon the Constitution to change itself accordingly.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Vista Major, Continental Commonwealths, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Freewire

Bearlong wrote:MESSAGE FROM THE OFFICE OF THE SPEAKER

The Election Privacy Amendment has passed the House of Delegates. I call upon the Constitution to change itself accordingly.

The Constitution is behind on its Amendments

Penguania And Antarctica

Post self-deleted by Bearlong.

Vista Major wrote:The Constitution is behind on its Amendments

I can't edit the document, which is a shame. Though I have developed a question now: The Constitution mandates that a 2/3 majority of the House of Delegates is required to pass an amendment (Art. IV.I). The Constitution also defines the House of Delegates as all citizens except for the President (Art I.I).

This means that constitutional amendments require 26 votes in favour (40 citizens - the President = 39 Delegates, (39/3)*2 = 26) to pass, no?

Vista Major

Latrovia wrote:We like everyone's posts. :P
*proceeds to like post unquestionably*

Latrovia, Vista Major

Bearlong wrote:I can't edit the document, which is a shame. Though I have developed a question now: The Constitution mandates that a 2/3 majority of the House of Delegates is required to pass an amendment (Art. IV.I). The Constitution also defines the House of Delegates as all citizens except for the President (Art I.I).

This means that constitutional amendments require 26 votes in favour (40 citizens - the President = 39 Delegates, (39/3)*2 = 26) to pass, no?

Nope.

Me and Tse were on that day one.

http://s15.zetaboards.com/COFN/topic/10040684/1/#new

Vista Major

Kalaron wrote:Nope.

Me and Tse were on that day one.

http://s15.zetaboards.com/COFN/topic/10040684/1/#new

On making the decision, and yet not on rewording the document.

Boy, aren't we effective!

Vista Major

Bearlong wrote:On making the decision, and yet not on rewording the document.

Boy, aren't we effective!

Supreme Court, bruh.

We just interpret.

Vista Major, Continental Commonwealths, Penguania And Antarctica, Tserra

Kalaron wrote:Supreme Court, bruh.

We just interpret.

By and large, what Kal said.

Vista Major, The United Providences Of Perland

Bearlong wrote:On making the decision, and yet not on rewording the document.

Boy, aren't we effective!

We're working on it, your Bearjesty

I want to create a cultural event between the President and the Citizens. Where we will be discussing all together the future and the present of the region.

So a conversation between the people of the region and me. :)

Who would like to take part in this? :)

Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

Latrovia wrote:I want to create a cultural event between the President and the Citizens. Where we will be discussing all together the future and the present of the region.

So a conversation between the people of the region and me. :)

Who would like to take part in this? :)

don't need to ask me twice. when does it begin?

Latrovia, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:don't need to ask me twice. when does it begin?

Well as soon as some others will express interest on this table-talk. I have an open administration and what matters to me is to increase the participation so the next administrations have it more easy to reach higher standards of progress.

Penguania And Antarctica

Latrovia wrote:Well as soon as some others will express interest on this table-talk. I have an open administration and what matters to me is to increase the participation so the next administrations have it more easy to reach higher standards of progress.

gotcha

Oh boi one of the issues I submitted got added to the game. If anyone gets a Black Friday issue I wrote it :P

Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus

Notice from the Office of the President

The CFN Government will recess on December 24, 25 and 26 in observation of the Christmas and other winter holidays. We hope everyone enjoys this time in peace and surrounded by family and friends.

By the President,

☿ Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus, Chief of Staff

Latrovia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Yukona

Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus wrote:Notice from the Office of the President

The CFN Government will recess on December 24, 25 and 26 in observation of the Christmas and other winter holidays. We hope everyone enjoys this time in peace and surrounded by family and friends.

By the President,

☿ Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus, Chief of Staff

That's ME people! xD

Penguania And Antarctica

Latrovia wrote:That's ME people! xD

I never would have guessed.

Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Tserra wrote:I never would have guessed.

Thats why I am always helpful.

Penguania And Antarctica, Tserra, The United Providences Of Perland

Ugh, the damn Constitution...

Our Constitution distinguishes between Amendment and Repeal. Article IV states that an amendment is possible with 2/3 of the House of Delegates (judicially interpreted to actually mean 2/3 of votes within the House, thank God) while Article V states that a repeal is possible with only unanimous consent of the House of Delegates (a ridiculous threshold to impose upon any legislature and, God willing, also subject to the judicial interpretation of unanimity of votes within the House).

Now, I'm assuming (although it is not explicitly stated) that select sections or articles of the constitution can be repealed by amendment. This is despite the fact that there is an explicit legal difference between amending legal text to change its interpretation and repealing legal text to remove its interpretation.

However, what about repealing an entire amendment to the Constitution? As these seem to exist as stand alone documents that supplement the Constitution in the American fashion, do these require a unanimity of votes to repeal or can entire amendments to the Constitution be repealed by amendment?

This is usually why amendments and repeals require the same threshold.

Latrovia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus, Yukona

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Ugh, the damn Constitution...

Our Constitution distinguishes between Amendment and Repeal. Article IV states that an amendment is possible with 2/3 of the House of Delegates (judicially interpreted to actually mean 2/3 of votes within the House, thank God) while Article V states that a repeal is possible with only unanimous consent of the House of Delegates (a ridiculous threshold to impose upon any legislature and, God willing, also subject to the judicial interpretation of unanimity of votes within the House).

Now, I'm assuming (although it is not explicitly stated) that select sections or articles of the constitution can be repealed by amendment. This is despite the fact that there is an explicit legal difference between amending legal text to change its interpretation and repealing legal text to remove its interpretation.

However, what about repealing an entire amendment to the Constitution? As these seem to exist as stand alone documents that supplement the Constitution in the American fashion, do these require a unanimity of votes to repeal or can entire amendments to the Constitution be repealed by amendment?

This is usually why amendments and repeals require the same threshold.

I agree to a point with what you say. And I am willing to work with everyone around here to fix these kind of issues.

First I would like to thank you for your valid points. Second I would like to have you in my citizen-president table meeting. And third, this is the way our Democracy works. I don't have the power, neither I wanna have the power to take down the House of Delegates, but you got to understand that the role of the President here is not to have a lot of power. Despite the fact, whether I will or not propose good ideas, they can be taken down easily by the HoD. But also the few members of the House choose the fate of the region.

This raises a really interesting conversation :)

Penguania And Antarctica

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Ugh, the damn Constitution...

Our Constitution distinguishes between Amendment and Repeal. Article IV states that an amendment is possible with 2/3 of the House of Delegates (judicially interpreted to actually mean 2/3 of votes within the House, thank God) while Article V states that a repeal is possible with only unanimous consent of the House of Delegates (a ridiculous threshold to impose upon any legislature and, God willing, also subject to the judicial interpretation of unanimity of votes within the House).

Now, I'm assuming (although it is not explicitly stated) that select sections or articles of the constitution can be repealed by amendment. This is despite the fact that there is an explicit legal difference between amending legal text to change its interpretation and repealing legal text to remove its interpretation.

However, what about repealing an entire amendment to the Constitution? As these seem to exist as stand alone documents that supplement the Constitution in the American fashion, do these require a unanimity of votes to repeal or can entire amendments to the Constitution be repealed by amendment?

This is usually why amendments and repeals require the same threshold.

I noticed this too, but I assumed that when the Constitution said "repeal" that it meant more "repeal of this Constitution". So, for example, if we just decide to ditch this constitution and write a new one (God knows there's been calls for that in the past), we have a Constitutional buyout.

Continental Commonwealths, Penguania And Antarctica

Bearlong wrote:I noticed this too, but I assumed that when the Constitution said "repeal" that it meant more "repeal of this Constitution". So, for example, if we just decide to ditch this constitution and write a new one (God knows there's been calls for that in the past), we have a Constitutional buyout.

That buyout is definitely necessary, but 100% voting majority is a crazy threshold to impose on a legislature.

And given that we've already set a precedent for repealing by amendment (ex. the removal of the Minister of Defence), the distinguishing between repeal and amendment seems redundant. Who is to say that we don't just amend every section of the Constitution to read and mean something entirely different, therefore effectively repealing it?

Just the phrase "repealing by amendment" gets my eye twitching.

Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus

Message from the MOI

[nation=short]Solla Ultima[/nation] has been chosen as the Deputy Minister of Interior!

Jaslandia, Latrovia, Penguania And Antarctica

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:Message from the MOI

[nation=short]Solla Ultima[/nation] has been chosen as the Deputy Minister of Interior!

Welcome on our team [nation=short]Solla Ultima[/nation]! :D

Penguania And Antarctica, Solla Ultima

Latrovia wrote:I agree to a point with what you say. And I am willing to work with everyone around here to fix these kind of issues.

First I would like to thank you for your valid points. Second I would like to have you in my citizen-president table meeting. And third, this is the way our Democracy works. I don't have the power, neither I wanna have the power to take down the House of Delegates, but you got to understand that the role of the President here is not to have a lot of power. Despite the fact, whether I will or not propose good ideas, they can be taken down easily by the HoD. But also the few members of the House choose the fate of the region.

This raises a really interesting conversation :)

I wouldn't exactly call 39 people to be a few :P

The United Providences Of Perland, Yukona

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