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Yukona wrote:So true Well I'm disappointed Blighty isn't on the list

Excluding Scotland's gorgeousness, what else is there to see in Britain? England's green and flat land? ;)

Solla Ultima

Nuremgard wrote:Excluding Scotland's gorgeousness, what else is there to see in Britain? England's green and flat land? ;)

I'd imagine if, even in jest, I said that to you - I could expect a pipe bomb under my car or a bottle over my head by the morning.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:Excluding Scotland's gorgeousness, what else is there to see in Britain? England's green and flat land? ;)

The fighting in Northern Ireland?

Nuremgard, Baxten

Yukona wrote:I'd imagine if, even in jest, I said that to you - I could expect a pipe bomb under my car or a bottle over my head by the morning.

You're mistaking us with the Irish there. ;)

Why do they call it Blighty anyway? Is it because Britain blighted the world with its imperialism?

Friedensreich wrote:The fighting in Northern Ireland?

Well they do have an annual freak show every summer. People dress up in orange and celebrate a military battle fought by a long-dead Dutchman.

Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:You're mistaking us with the Irish there. ;)

Why do they call it Blighty anyway? Is it because Britain blighted the world with its imperialism?

Well they do have an annual freak show every summer. People dress up in orange and celebrate a military battle fought by a long-dead Dutchman.

Sighs No, it came from Hindi origins if I remember correctly, where it was used to refer to many things and then when it got morphed into English it ended up meaning Britain - this was, as you probably know, intensified in the Great War - when ol' Blighty served as an endearment for home.

Yukona wrote:Sighs No, it came from Hindi origins if I remember correctly, where it was used to refer to many things and then when it got morphed into English it ended up meaning Britain - this was, as you probably know, intensified in the Great War - when ol' Blighty served as an endearment for home.

No need to sigh, sweetie, I was only jesting because I didn't know where the term came from.

Andromitus wrote:As an American, I am completely insulted that you'd choose to go to any nation that isn't the good 'ol US of A

Kinda hard to visit a nation you were born and currently live in.

Why does everyone like Luxembourg so much?

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Yukona, Solla Ultima, United Continental States

Nuremgard wrote:Why does everyone like Luxembourg so much?

Eurocentrism

Friedensreich wrote:Eurocentrism

When I think of Monaco I think of Grace Kelly.

Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:When I think of Monaco I think of Grace Kelly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5EOuppHoTM

Nuremgard, The United Providences Of Perland

Would anyone be interested in like, a state dinner RP?

Jaslandia, Peoples Liberation Republic, Vista Major, Percyton, Solla Ultima, United Continental States

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:Would anyone be interested in like, a state dinner RP?

I would be!

Jaslandia, The United Providences Of Perland, Percyton

Nuremgard wrote:When I think of Monaco I think of Grace Kelly.

When I think of Monaco, I think of rich people gambling their money away on 80-ft super yachts with expensive Bordeaux wine, strippers, and new movies from Cannes

Sounds like the life to me

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, The United Providences Of Perland, Yukona, United Continental States

Baxten wrote:When I think of Monaco, I think of rich people gambling their money away on 80-ft super yachts with expensive Bordeaux wine, strippers, and new movies from Cannes

Sounds like the life to me

Seconded.

Baxten wrote:When I think of Monaco, I think of rich people gambling their money away on 80-ft super yachts with expensive Bordeaux wine, strippers, and new movies from Cannes

Sounds like the life to me

Well you have to hand it to the rich, they know how to live well.

Jaslandia, Kalaron, The United Providences Of Perland

Baxten wrote:When I think of Monaco, I think of rich people gambling their money away on 80-ft super yachts with expensive Bordeaux wine, strippers, and new movies from Cannes

Sounds like the life to me

fun fact, I am in the same fraternity as the Prince of Monaco

Nuremgard, The United Providences Of Perland, Yukona

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:fun fact, I am in the same fraternity as the Prince of Monaco

The only thing I know of fraternities are dooshbags named Chad driving their Dad's expensive sports car

Peoples Liberation Republic, The United Providences Of Perland, United Continental States

Yukona wrote:The only thing I know of fraternities are dooshbags named Chad driving their Dad's expensive sports car

https://youtu.be/ryH8Mrf2Ooo?t=26

The United Providences Of Perland

Nuremgard wrote:https://youtu.be/ryH8Mrf2Ooo?t=26

Chad Hogan... my lord

Nuremgard

Palestinian independence triggers me so much. I need to go and hide in my Israeli safe space! I can't believe that some people want companies to not do business in an illegally occupied territory and want Israel to comply with international law. Don't these people know that only the enemies of America have to comply with international law? I am so triggered by all of this that I want to put these people in jail for 20 years and fine them a million dollars!

https://www.aclu.org/blog/speak-freely/first-amendment-protects-right-boycott-israel

Kalaron

Yukona wrote:Chad Hogan... my lord

He's the most popular kid in school.

Yukona

Yukona wrote:The only thing I know of fraternities are dooshbags named Chad driving their Dad's expensive sports car

Well now you know that PLR and the Prince of Monaco are in the same fraternal order

Nuremgard wrote:Why does everyone like Luxembourg so much?

They don't recognize the power of LIECHTENSTEIN!!!

Jaslandia, United Continental States

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:Would anyone be interested in like, a state dinner RP?

*raises hand*

Jaslandia, The United Providences Of Perland

Nuremgard wrote:That's because he already lives there.

*Scoffs* then why would anyone wish to leave this spectacular and holy paradise?

Onocarcass wrote:Would it be even more of an insult to know that I intent to leave the US at some point in the future?

Get out while you still can!...I..I mean, TRAITOR

Sulania wrote:Kinda hard to visit a nation you were born and currently live in.

You see, now I'm starting to doubt if you guys know me or not? Because I've been pretty vocal about my desperation to leave this idiotic country of mine and move to Germany where its nice and every 9/10 people aren't actual illiterates -_-

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:Would anyone be interested in like, a state dinner RP?

Yush Yush! Count me in!

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Percyton

Andromitus wrote:*Scoffs* then why would anyone wish to leave this spectacular and holy paradise?

Get out while you still can!...I..I mean, TRAITOR

You see, now I'm starting to doubt if you guys know me or not? Because I've been pretty vocal about my desperation to leave this idiotic country of mine and move to Germany where its nice and every 9/10 people aren't actual illiterates -_-

Yush Yush! Count me in!

Germany is an awesome country and recently made itself even more awesome by legalising gay marriage.

Jaslandia, Peoples Liberation Republic, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica

Andromitus wrote:*Scoffs* then why would anyone wish to leave this spectacular and holy paradise?

Get out while you still can!...I..I mean, TRAITOR

You see, now I'm starting to doubt if you guys know me or not? Because I've been pretty vocal about my desperation to leave this idiotic country of mine and move to Germany where its nice and every 9/10 people aren't actual illiterates -_-

Yush Yush! Count me in!

I like Germany

Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica

Post self-deleted by Auxorii.

America > Rest of the world

The United Providences Of Perland, Magnatronia, United Continental States

Auxorii wrote:America > Rest of the world

To some Americans, America is the world. The other nations are mere provinces of the Empire to be toyed with.

Peoples Liberation Republic, The United Providences Of Perland, United Continental States

Auxorii wrote:America > Rest of the world

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3qjfQieg2w

Anybody interested in having a diplomatic meeting with the Vice-President of the PLR?

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, The United Providences Of Perland, Magnatronia, Percyton

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:Anybody interested in having a diplomatic meeting with the Vice-President of the PLR?

Where would this take place? Over TGs?

Jaslandia

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:

- Gorgeous Grandma Day

This sounds like a holiday invented by a porn company, and that makes me uncomfortable.

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:

- 1962 – The International Agreement on the Neutrality of Laos is signed.

Richard Nixon: Neutrality? What's that?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Barrel_Roll

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:Would anyone be interested in like, a state dinner RP?

I'd be interested.

Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Percyton, United Continental States

Nuremgard wrote:Where would this take place? Over TGs?

I can set it up in the RP region we have

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:I can set it up in the RP region we have

Eh. I'm too lazy to RP.

Baxten wrote:When I think of Monaco, I think of rich people gambling their money away on 80-ft super yachts with expensive Bordeaux wine, strippers, and new movies from Cannes

Sounds like the life to me

That just sounds awful....

Auxorii wrote:America > Rest of the world

Hell yeah

Auxorii, United Continental States

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:I can set it up in the RP region we have

I'm in

Percyton

Magnatronia wrote:I'm in

Where do you want me to set it up? On the forums or the RP region?

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:Where do you want me to set it up? On the forums or the RP region?

Rp region. I won't respond immediately, but definitely today

4 hours ago: The United Provinces of Baxten tagged the region "Eco-Friendly".

I guess that explains why we're required to write all House bills on recycled, biodegradable paper. And why all the bottles in the Parliamentary vending machine have a label saying 'Made from 100% Recycled Materials'. Looks like the CoFN is going green!

Vista Major, Yukona, Percyton

Jaslandia wrote:4 hours ago: The United Provinces of Baxten tagged the region "Eco-Friendly".

I guess that explains why we're required to write all House bills on recycled, biodegradable paper. And why all the bottles in the Parliamentary vending machine have a label saying 'Made from 100% Recycled Materials'. Looks like the CoFN is going green!

Not on my watch

Jaslandia

So little love for the Vatican... :(

Also, I love watching Sovereign Citizen videos. They're funny

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton, United Continental States

Note- the Vatican is the best country along with the U.S. It's a tie

Auxorii wrote:Note- the Vatican is the best country along with the U.S. It's a tie

Nah, that's reserved for Deutschland.

Vista Major, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica

Auxorii wrote:Note- the Vatican is the best country along with the U.S. It's a tie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LJKiwbOvK8&index=23&list=PLSSHL9XETepuDohx2_uz8VyUd7eDbbQkE

Jaslandia wrote:4 hours ago: The United Provinces of Baxten tagged the region "Eco-Friendly".

I guess that explains why we're required to write all House bills on recycled, biodegradable paper. And why all the bottles in the Parliamentary vending machine have a label saying 'Made from 100% Recycled Materials'. Looks like the CoFN is going green!

Oi, use renewables to power it too!

Jaslandia, Percyton

Friedensreich wrote:Nah, that's reserved for Deutschland.

[I]SCHLAND[/I]

Jaslandia wrote:4 hours ago: The United Provinces of Baxten tagged the region "Eco-Friendly".

I guess that explains why we're required to write all House bills on recycled, biodegradable paper. And why all the bottles in the Parliamentary vending machine have a label saying 'Made from 100% Recycled Materials'. Looks like the CoFN is going green!

It's about time

Jaslandia, Oelesa, Percyton

Auxorii wrote:Note- the Vatican is the best country along with the U.S. It's a tie

I mean... I mean... I can't say I agree. It's America First, Netherlands Second

Jaslandia, Andromitus, Oelesa, Kalaron

Sulania wrote:I mean... I mean... I can't say I agree. It's America First, Netherlands Second

Ew

Nuremgard, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Friedensreich wrote:Ew

I concur with this statement

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica

Mesopotamia-Kurdistan wrote:Palestinian independence triggers me so much. I need to go and hide in my Israeli safe space! I can't believe that some people want companies to not do business in an illegally occupied territory and want Israel to comply with international law. Don't these people know that only the enemies of America have to comply with international law? I am so triggered by all of this that I want to put these people in jail for 20 years and fine them a million dollars!

https://www.aclu.org/blog/speak-freely/first-amendment-protects-right-boycott-israel

Hey now, the max financial punishment was just 250K :P

No but really though what a terrible bill.

Friedensreich wrote:Ew

Yukona wrote:I concur with this statement

https://youtu.be/ELD2AwFN9Nc?t=35

Jaslandia, Kalaron, Yukona

Friedensreich wrote:Ew

Yukona wrote:I concur with this statement

Sulania wrote:https://youtu.be/ELD2AwFN9Nc?t=35

Now, if you dissolve NATO, your going to make our problems great again; And we know you're going to be putting America First, but how about, the Netherlands, Second.

Jaslandia, Oelesa, Yukona

Auxorii wrote:Note- the Vatican is the best country along with the U.S. It's a tie

BAHAHAHAHA. HAHAHA. Haha. Ha.

Nuremgard, Vista Major, Andromitus, The United Providences Of Perland, Yukona

"The frighteningly efficient Percytonian economy ... is quite specialized and mostly made up of the Tourism industry, with major contributions from Information Technology."

Sounds about right. Visitors come from all over the world to see our famous sentient engines, and then the scientists come to figure out how our sentient engines work. Not only do these scientists often stay on Sodor and contribute to our IT industry (either directly by taking jobs in the field, or indirectly by teaching future IT people at the University of Tidmouth), but it's also made Percyton a valuable part of the research into artificial intelligence (which I've always found strange, since I think our sentient vehicles have more to do with magic and chance than AI, but good luck convincing the scientists that).

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

Continental Commonwealths wrote:BAHAHAHAHA. HAHAHA. Haha. Ha.

Don't insult the poor evangelical. They're a delicate bunch

Andromitus, Yukona

Continental Commonwealths wrote:BAHAHAHAHA. HAHAHA. Haha. Ha.

Which one do you disagree with?

Vista Major wrote:Don't insult the poor evangelical. They're a delicate bunch

You were literally talking about microaggressions yesterday.

Vista Major, The United Providences Of Perland

Auxorii wrote:Note- the Vatican is the best country along with the U.S. It's a tie

On what scale besides your opinion lol?

Auxorii wrote:Which one do you disagree with?

Oh, I simply disagree with the logic of there being a measure for "best" country. It's like determining who is the best person; which measures are determining factors? Philanthropy? Intellect? Running speed? Number of hotdogs consumed in a single sitting?

But I do wonder which measure you're using to arrive at VC and the US. Number of wars they've instigated? Muslim countries invaded?

Nuremgard, Yukona

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:On what scale besides your opinion lol?

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Oh, I simply disagree with the logic of there being a measure for "best" country. It's like determining who is the best person; which measures are determining factors? Philanthropy? Intellect? Running speed? Number of hotdogs consumed in a single sitting?

But I do wonder which measure you're using to arrive at VC and the US. Number of wars they've instigated? Muslim countries invaded?

VC just because I'm Catholic. US because of the values and foundations of the country.

The United Providences Of Perland

Auxorii wrote:VC just because I'm Catholic. US because of the values and foundations of the country.

Slavery and elitist democracy by property owners? ;)

Yukona, Solla Ultima

Nuremgard wrote:Slavery and elitist democracy by property owners? ;)

White heterosexual property owners at that.

And can't forget how even among whites there's a sort of hierarchy among them. Irish are a no no, Italians are gangsters, and Russians are secretly spies.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:Slavery and elitist democracy by property owners? ;)

Values as in the Constitution

Auxorii wrote:Values as in the Constitution

Article 1 Section 2 Clause #3.

If four other people endorse this post in the affirmative, the first referendum of the Second Confederacy can be on whether to compel Kal and Sul to flip the design of one of their flags so that they're not exactly the same.

I'm kidding, of course, but srsly you two!

Jaslandia, Sulania, Vista Major, Friedensreich, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, Confederacy Of Free Nations

Goodnight, friends and foes. <3

(PS: The Discord is quite dead lately. :( )

Jaslandia, Vista Major

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Goodnight, friends and foes. <3

(PS: The Discord is quite dead lately. :( )

To be fair, I woke up at three in the afternoon :P

Anyhow, Night!

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

Continental Commonwealths wrote:If four other people endorse this post in the affirmative, the first referendum of the Second Confederacy can be on whether to compel Kal and Sul to flip the design of one of their flags so that they're not exactly the same.

I'm kidding, of course, but srsly you two!

Rainbow Space Cat Founder endorses on the condition of belly rubs!

Jaslandia, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Continental Commonwealths wrote:If four other people endorse this post in the affirmative, the first referendum of the Second Confederacy can be on whether to compel Kal and Sul to flip the design of one of their flags so that they're not exactly the same.

I'm kidding, of course, but srsly you two!

For real lol. It is bugging me too.

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Yukona

Continental Commonwealths wrote:If four other people endorse this post in the affirmative, the first referendum of the Second Confederacy can be on whether to compel Kal and Sul to flip the design of one of their flags so that they're not exactly the same.

I'm kidding, of course, but srsly you two!

Welp, looks like we got a referendum coming!

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Auxorii wrote:You were literally talking about microaggressions yesterday.

That was yesterday

Sunday is the one day where one should be allowed to let go their social justice tendencies and, as the Lord commands, rest.

Continental Commonwealths wrote:If four other people endorse this post in the affirmative, the first referendum of the Second Confederacy can be on whether to compel Kal and Sul to flip the design of one of their flags so that they're not exactly the same.

I'm kidding, of course, but srsly you two!

I would actually endorse this

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Goodnight, friends and foes. <3

(PS: The Discord is quite dead lately. :( )

At least people agree for once...:)

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Offfh, I just wiped out my nations entire private sector in one click.

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Goodnight, friends and foes. <3

(PS: The Discord is quite dead lately. :( )

Goodnight, Peng!

Killdash wrote:Offfh, I just wiped out my nations entire private sector in one click.

https://media.tenor.com/images/b9a2e20402fac564f9830ccf5a0b57df/tenor.gif

Penguania And Antarctica

Post self-deleted by Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth.

I really lile Sul's bill, but I really think it should have been put to a debate. I believe Parliament should be able to remove merits, even if the threshold is set at a 70% majority or something.

I also think there's an issue with saying that the "Ministry of X" rather than the "Minister of X" can confer and remove honours as the latter is the elected officeholder while the former would logically be composed of the deputy and staff that report to the elected officeholder as well. If we truly mean the former, then does the Minister get the final say? Does the deputy and/or staff members get an equal vote? The bill doesn't specify, but saying "Minister" instead would alleviate any interpretation issue.

Jaslandia, Sulania, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica

Look, I am from Iceland and I'm not teally interested in American politics but what are microaggressions? Can someone explain it to me please

Oelesa

Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:Look, I am from Iceland and I'm not teally interested in American but what are microaggressions? Can someone explain it to me please

It's speech or an action that in a subtle or seemingly indirect way harms or discriminates against a group of people, specifically when the group is marginalized (ethnicity, nationality, sexuality, gender, ect ect ect) and the statement/action is unintentional.

source: https://www.google.com/search?q=microaggressions&oq=microagressi&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.2713j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

"mi·cro·ag·gres·sion

ˌmīkrōəˈɡreSHən/

noun

plural noun: microaggressions

a statement, action, or incident regarded as an instance of indirect, subtle, or unintentional discrimination against members of a marginalized group such as a racial or ethnic minority.

'students posed with dry-erase boards documenting their experiences with microaggressions on campus'"

See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microaggression

Jaslandia, Oelesa

Sulania wrote:It's speech or an action that in a subtle or seemingly indirect way harms or discriminates against a group of people, specifically when the group is marginalized (ethnicity, nationality, sexuality, gender, ect ect ect) and the statement/action is unintentional.

source: https://www.google.com/search?q=microaggressions&oq=microagressi&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.2713j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

"mi·cro·ag·gres·sion

ˌmīkrōəˈɡreSHən/

noun

plural noun: microaggressions

a statement, action, or incident regarded as an instance of indirect, subtle, or unintentional discrimination against members of a marginalized group such as a racial or ethnic minority.

'students posed with dry-erase boards documenting their experiences with microaggressions on campus'"

See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microaggression

Can you give me examples?

Friedensreich wrote:Article 1 Section 2 Clause #3.

?

Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:Can you give me examples?

I mean, I'm not an advocate or really care for it, but sure.

These kind of qualify for where I live

"You don't act gay." (Which I have heard, but I never cared cuz I never saw it as a problem)

"They're probably from the other side of the river." (Refers to black people. I live in a suburb on the other side of a major city, which the city is not exactly the best in terms of racial ghettos)

"They're pretty smart for being black." (Have actually heard from my boss, though he's the only one)

Kalaron

Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:Can you give me examples?

It's basically people being pus*ies.

Nuremgard

Auxorii wrote:It's basically people being pus*ies.

Very much so.

Nuremgard, Auxorii, Kalaron

Auxorii wrote:It's basically people being pus*ies.

Sulania wrote:Very much so.

I see now

Auxorii

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I really lile Sul's bill, but I really think it should have been put to a debate. I believe Parliament should be able to remove merits, even if the threshold is set at a 70% majority or something.

I also think there's an issue with saying that the "Ministry of X" rather than the "Minister of X" can confer and remove honours as the latter is the elected officeholder while the former would logically be composed of the deputy and staff that report to the elected officeholder as well. If we truly mean the former, then does the Minister get the final say? Does the deputy and/or staff members get an equal vote? The bill doesn't specify, but saying "Minister" instead would alleviate any interpretation issue.

I suppose I can see the issue. However, I would point out that given that the Minister of Internal Affairs is the de jure and de facto head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, along with other ministers and the prospective ministries, they would have the say in the matter as leaders of the Ministry.

I worded it in this specific way so that Ministries that may be operating outside of the normal parameters may still give out awards. For instance, an award can still be given out if an inactive Minister gives their deputy powers, or if there is an Interim Minister and someone wants to be pedantic about wording. I wanted to avoid specifying a specific person in the case of certain situations where an award can, and potentially should be given, but would be incapable of doing so given certain situations.

I know my reasoning may seem a bit convoluted, but I worded that way for a reason.

Jaslandia, Oelesa, Kalaron

Auxorii wrote:?

Three Fifths Compromise, codified into the Constitution via Article 1 Section 2, Clause 3. Counts native Americans as worth 0 votes unless taxes and three fifths for everyone else that isn't free.

Yukona

Friedensreich wrote:Three Fifths Compromise, codified into the Constitution via Article 1 Section 2, Clause 3. Counts native Americans as worth 0 votes unless taxes and three fifths for everyone else that isn't free.

[spoiler=Clause #3]Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, b]which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct. The number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, but each State shall have at Least one Representative; and until such enumeration shall be made, the State of New Hampshire shall be entitled to chuse three, Massachusetts eight, Rhode-Island and Providence Plantations one, Connecticut five, New-York six, New Jersey four, Pennsylvania eight, Delaware one, Maryland six, Virginia ten, North Carolina five, South Carolina five, and Georgia three.[/spoiler]

It counts Native Americans as not apart of the population because they usually had their own reservations and didn't pay taxes.

Auxorii wrote:[spoiler=Clause #3]Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, b]which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct. The number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, but each State shall have at Least one Representative; and until such enumeration shall be made, the State of New Hampshire shall be entitled to chuse three, Massachusetts eight, Rhode-Island and Providence Plantations one, Connecticut five, New-York six, New Jersey four, Pennsylvania eight, Delaware one, Maryland six, Virginia ten, North Carolina five, South Carolina five, and Georgia three.[/spoiler]

It counts Native Americans as not apart of the population because they usually had their own reservations and didn't pay taxes.

Literally what I said.

Yukona

Friedensreich wrote:Literally what I said.

Right. So what's your point?

Auxorii wrote:Right. So what's your point?

Blocking natives on reservations from voting is a value that you admire? Shouldn't everyone within the borders of the state have the same voting power, regardless of their socioeconomic status?

Yukona

Auxorii wrote:VC just because I'm Catholic. US because of the values and foundations of the country.

I like the US because our military spending is both sensible for growing future military potential and also entirely inadequately governed.

INB4 Congress says "Another 2,000 M1A2SEP+++ TANKS!"

Oh also we only really fudge numbers sometimes with our military while China and Russia make radical claims that I doubt.

Friedensreich wrote:Blocking natives on reservations from voting is a value that you admire? Shouldn't everyone within the borders of the state have the same voting power, regardless of their socioeconomic status?

Rich people should have more votes. After all, they pay most of the taxes

Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:Rich people should have more votes. After all, they pay most of the taxes

Lol, that's real equality ain't it?

Next thing you know the government will quit caring the little guy and only care about the votes of the wealthy. After all, the got more votes, right?

Jaslandia, United Continental States

Friedensreich wrote:Blocking natives on reservations from voting is a value that you admire? Shouldn't everyone within the borders of the state have the same voting power, regardless of their socioeconomic status?

Reservations is a complicated issue, as the US technically doesn't recognize Native American Reservations as inherently US owned land. Rather, we recognize them with "Tribal Sovereignty" and so let them manage their own affairs while still operating within the United States of America. It's a complicated issue that not even I understand all that well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_reservation

Jaslandia, Auxorii, Kalaron, Solla Ultima, United Continental States

Sulania wrote:Reservations is a complicated issue, as the US technically doesn't recognize Native American Reservations as inherently US owned land. Rather, we recognize them with "Tribal Sovereignty" and so let them manage their own affairs while still operating within the United States of America. It's a complicated issue that not even I understand all that well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_reservation

Meant to have this link as well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribal_sovereignty_in_the_United_States

Jaslandia, Kalaron, United Continental States

Sulania wrote:Reservations is a complicated issue, as the US technically doesn't recognize Native American Reservations as inherently US owned land. Rather, we recognize them with "Tribal Sovereignty" and so let them manage their own affairs while still operating within the United States of America. It's a complicated issue that not even I understand all that well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_reservation

Take the Little River Band of Ottawa Indians, the reservation run by the tribe that allowed me to go to the casino at 19.

They are allowed to vote (family friend is a member of the tribe, carries the card to it and gets discounts at the casino along with a portion of the casino's profits), despite being members of a reservation. This is due to the Voting Rights Act in 1965 and the blanket granting of US citizenship to Native Americans everywhere in the US (reservations included, as part of the Indian Citizenship Act in 1924).

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