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Nuremgard wrote:Yeah I checked the link. Dunno why they bother. Third party will never ever get anywhere.

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Nuremgard wrote:Yeah I checked the link. Dunno why they bother. Third party will never ever get anywhere.

Yeah. Also reminds of something AlternativeHistory.com had: some guy named Drew did a timeline concerning the beginning of third party candidacy in the '72 election - it subverts the Alternative History Wank and has the world go full Crapsack :p

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/FearLoathingAndGumboOnTheCampaignTrailSeventyTwo

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:Yeah. Also reminds of something AlternativeHistory.com had: some guy named Drew did a timeline concerning the beginning of third party candidacy in the '72 election - it subverts the Alternative History Wank and has the world go full Crapsack :p

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/FearLoathingAndGumboOnTheCampaignTrailSeventyTwo

I watched their video on what may have happened if Nazi Germany won the war.

Nuremgard wrote:How anyone can still vote for Trump after all the abuse allegations is beyond me.

I don't give a sh!t that he said grabbing women by the pvssy. Why is that even surprising? I just don't like him irregardless even though I like his policies. I hate Clinton, but she will only be President for one term, so it is less of a risk and she also won't do that stupid trickle down economics.

Nuremgard wrote:I watched their video on what may have happened if Nazi Germany won the war.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSCuE7jmFa4: I'm guessing this one?

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSCuE7jmFa4: I'm guessing this one?

That's the one.

Nuremgard wrote:That's the one.

Been subscribed to him since the early days - dear God how three years can change a channel :p

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:Been subscribed to him since the early days - dear God how three years can change a channel :p

Haha, yeah.

Aldaur wrote:I don't give a sh!t that he said grabbing women by the pvssy. Why is that even surprising?

'Grab her by the p*ssy' is not the offensive part. The offensive part is glorifying sexual assault.

https://youtu.be/LiPjWUn-PUo?t=8m3s

Nuremgard, Au Minbo, Aldaur, Continental Commonwealths

Jaslandia wrote:'Grab her by the p*ssy' is not the offensive part. The offensive part is glorifying sexual assault.

https://youtu.be/LiPjWUn-PUo?t=8m3s

Jas knows what's up

Jaslandia, Aldaur, Continental Commonwealths

Jaslandia wrote:'Grab her by the p*ssy' is not the offensive part. The offensive part is glorifying sexual assault.

https://youtu.be/LiPjWUn-PUo?t=8m3s

Even still. We already know Trump says stupid things. As long as he didn't act on his stupid words, I don't care. That's not why I like or dislike him, and all this election has been is the media digging up sh!t that no one cares about and acting like it is the biggest thing ever. I don't care what Trump said 10 years ago.

Aldaur wrote:Even still. We already know Trump says stupid things. As long as he didn't act on his stupid words, I don't care.

Funny you mention that...

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-women-20161012-snap-story.html

Continental Commonwealths

http://imgur.com/a/NXZRk

So, after a weird flag crawl involving the Branch Davidians and Mormon flags, I found this on the Vexillology subreddit with a guy using North Korea's basic design for every flag (both national and self-declared) and for some reason I felt compelled to post it here :p

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:http://imgur.com/a/NXZRk

So, after a weird flag crawl involving the Branch Davidians and Mormon flags, I found this on the Vexillology subreddit with a guy using North Korea's basic design for every flag (both national and self-declared) and for some reason I felt compelled to post it here :p

http://imgur.com/a/hC2Rq

North Korea'd U.S. state flags :p

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:http://imgur.com/a/hC2Rq

North Korea'd U.S. state flags :p

As a Vermonter I have to state that I hate the flag made for us. It should be 14 stars, not 13. And yes, that is a point of contention for me

Jaslandia wrote:Funny you mention that...

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-women-20161012-snap-story.html

If it is true, then he will be prosecuted. However, I am quite hesitant to believe people who's timing is rather suspicious.

Aldaur wrote:If it is true, then he will be prosecuted. However, I am quite hesitant to believe people who's timing is rather suspicious.

It isn't easy to open up about sexual assault, so I can understand the women waiting so long. Not only did the release of the tape probably make them feel like their story was more likely to be believed, but once one person opened up, then several other people were willing to open up knowing they weren't alone.

Nuremgard, Aldaur

Au Minbo wrote:As a Vermonter I have to state that I hate the flag made for us. It should be 14 stars, not 13. And yes, that is a point of contention for me

At least it's based on the Green Mountain Boys and not the current flag: why they'd based it off the Governor's flag and why a Satanic deer's head is floating above the CoA I have no idea :p

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:At least it's based on the Green Mountain Boys and not the current flag: why they'd based it off the Governor's flag and why a Satanic deer's head is floating above the CoA I have no idea :p

I mean the current flag isn't any good, but I don't think the Green Mountain Boys flag should represent the state either. Hence why I sport the flag I support as my NS flag. Its 14 stars around a green triangle (month) on a blue field.

Au Minbo wrote:I mean the current flag isn't any good, but I don't think the Green Mountain Boys flag should represent the state either. Hence why I sport the flag I support as my NS flag. Its 14 stars around a green triangle (month) on a blue field.

I've been trying to figure that out for a long time now: it's all clear to me now :p

In all seriousness, that is a pretty good potential state flag

Au Minbo

Jaslandia wrote:It isn't easy to open up about sexual assault, so I can understand the women waiting so long. Not only did the release of the tape probably make them feel like their story was more likely to be believed, but once one person opened up, then several other people were willing to open up knowing they weren't alone.

I can understand that, but I am still a little suspicious about the timing. There are a lot of times where they do so for political reasons. Regardless though, all sexual assault cases need to be investigated fully and if it is found to be true, then he will be punished.

Aldaur wrote:I can understand that, but I am still a little suspicious about the timing. There are a lot of times where they do so for political reasons. Regardless though, all sexual assault cases need to be investigated fully and if it is found to be true, then he will be punished.

Women have a hard enough time as it is being believed when they are assaulted by "normal" guys but when a rich and famous guy does it, the probability of them being believed is almost nil. They will most likely be rubbished in the media as lying, money-grabbing sluts and be forced to recount their horrid tales in court before an audience. It's no wonder most women don't bother reporting it.

Jaslandia, Continental Commonwealths

Aldaur wrote:Even still. We already know Trump says stupid things. As long as he didn't act on his stupid words, I don't care. That's not why I like or dislike him, and all this election has been is the media digging up sh!t that no one cares about and acting like it is the biggest thing ever. I don't care what Trump said 10 years ago.

That's the thing, there is some speculation that Trump did act on those words. Not to mention, it doesn't help his already dismal popularity with the common person.

Jaslandia, Aldaur

Baxten wrote:That's the thing, there is some speculation that Trump did act on those words. Not to mention, it doesn't help his already dismal popularity with the common person.

He's obviously assaulted women before if he's going on about "they let you do anything when you're a star." He's a total creep and I don't know how his wife or kids can stick by him.

Actually I do know why they stick by him. $$$

Nuremgard wrote:He's obviously assaulted women before if he's going on about "they let you do anything when you're a star." He's a total creep and I don't know how his wife or kids can stick by him.

Actually I do know why they stick by him. $$$

But it's comments like this that makes me distrustful when people come out against him because they are only saying what sounds believable and everyone wants to believe he is a rapist because he is an arsehole. I'm not saying he isn't one but I am still distrustful of the timing.

A good example of one I believe in is the Bill Cosby case. Why? Because the timing isn't suspicious like it is with Trump a few weeks from election day. That is very suspicious. What I also find suspicious is the timing of Bill Clinton's accusers as well. There seem to be new accusers now, but why didn't they bring it up when everyone else brought it up in the 90s. Why are they waiting until now, right before election day, to hurt the Clinton campaign. Whether it is true or not, it is highly politicized and is very suspicious because of that.

Now a lot of my job is going to revolve around prosecuting sexual assault and Nurem, you know how I feel about the subject, so I am not defending these people nor am I saying we should distrust women who come forward. We need to make women feel more comfortable with coming forward, but that does not mean I am going to take the word of a distrustful media that lies so often. What I will trust is the cross examination in the court and if it holds up that's that.

I made that last line bold to showcase my main point.

Aldaur wrote:I don't give a sh!t that he said grabbing women by the pvssy. Why is that even surprising? I just don't like him irregardless even though I like his policies. I hate Clinton, but she will only be President for one term, so it is less of a risk and she also won't do that stupid trickle down economics.

Incumbents have yuuuuge advantages in democratic elections, with the United States being one of the worst offenders. Besides, Pence won't be the Republican candidate come 2020- more likely, it'll be Ryan. All the same, barring any scandals directly pertaining to her first term as President, Clinton will serve two terms. We'll reconvene in 3.5 years to see who is right.

And Trump is likely a sex offender in some definition of the term. Courts of law require a trial in which the defendant is proven to be guilty beyond a reasonable doubt; electors only require said candidate to glorify such actions in an audio recording and to refuse to back down once questioned on the topic. Locker room talk my twink @ss- this man is disgusting.

Lykens, Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Aldaur

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Incumbents have yuuuuge advantages in democratic elections, with the United States being one of the worst offenders. Besides, Pence won't be the Republican candidate come 2020- more likely, it'll be Ryan. All the same, barring any scandals directly pertaining to her first term as President, Clinton will serve two terms. We'll reconvene in 3.5 years to see who is right.

And Trump is likely a sex offender in some definition of the term. Courts of law require a trial in which the defendant is proven to be guilty beyond a reasonable doubt; electors only require said candidate to glorify such actions in an audio recording and to refuse to back down once questioned on the topic. Locker room talk my twink @ss- this man is disgusting.

True, but most incumbents enjoy some popularity amongst their own party. Pence at least has the respect of his. Ryan could be the nominee, that'd be quite interesting for sure. I certainly think he has the moral character to be President even though I disagree with his ideas. We will see though.

I agree, he is a horrid man and he probably is a sex offender, but I am still suspicious of the timing is all I am saying. I am even suspicious of the timing of the recording, as I am with the hacking. This whole election stinks with suspicion from both sides. We will see what the result is in court though.

Continental Commonwealths

Aldaur wrote:True, but most incumbents enjoy some popularity amongst their own party. Pence at least has the respect of his. Ryan could be the nominee, that'd be quite interesting for sure. I certainly think he has the moral character to be President even though I disagree with his ideas. We will see though.

I agree, he is a horrid man and he probably is a sex offender, but I am still suspicious of the timing is all I am saying. I am even suspicious of the timing of the recording, as I am with the hacking. This whole election stinks with suspicion from both sides. We will see what the result is in court though.

Let is be noted that, on this day, October 16th of 2016, CC and Ald agree. Because I can't disagree with anything you've written just now either. As I've said many times before to my friends and family, I don't envy Americans their current circumstance at present.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Aldaur

Aldaur wrote:But it's comments like this that makes me distrustful when people come out against him because they are only saying what sounds believable and everyone wants to believe he is a rapist because he is an arsehole. I'm not saying he isn't one but I am still distrustful of the timing.

A good example of one I believe in is the Bill Cosby case. Why? Because the timing isn't suspicious like it is with Trump a few weeks from election day. That is very suspicious. What I also find suspicious is the timing of Bill Clinton's accusers as well. There seem to be new accusers now, but why didn't they bring it up when everyone else brought it up in the 90s. Why are they waiting until now, right before election day, to hurt the Clinton campaign. Whether it is true or not, it is highly politicized and is very suspicious because of that.

Now a lot of my job is going to revolve around prosecuting sexual assault and Nurem, you know how I feel about the subject, so I am not defending these people nor am I saying we should distrust women who come forward. We need to make women feel more comfortable with coming forward, but that does not mean I am going to take the word of a distrustful media that lies so often. What I will trust is the cross examination in the court and if it holds up that's that.

I made that last line bold to showcase my main point.

I get what you're saying. I do. I just feel that now with that tape being released, his victims may feel it's better to come forward now because with him incriminating himself with his own words, they have more credability with their accusations. I know that women and the media can lie about such things. But from what I have seen and heard of Trump's behaviour, I choose to believe the women who have come forward.

Jaslandia, Aldaur, Continental Commonwealths

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Let is be noted that, on this day, October 16th of 2016, CC and Ald agree. Because I can't disagree with anything you've written just now either. As I've said many times before to my friends and family, I don't envy Americans their current circumstance at present.

I can't imagine why anyone would envy our political circumstance since the first Clinton got elected.

On another note, I wonder how different UN peacekeeping would be if European powers still kept their colonies overseas. The world would undoubtedly be more stable and economically prosperous if we all kept our colonies.

Aldaur wrote:I can't imagine why anyone would envy our political circumstance since the first Clinton got elected.

On another note, I wonder how different UN peacekeeping would be if European powers still kept their colonies overseas. The world would undoubtedly be more stable and economically prosperous if we all kept our colonies.

Aldaur, please let's not open up that can of worms.

Aldaur

Nuremgard wrote:I get what you're saying. I do. I just feel that now with that tape being released, his victims may feel it's better to come forward now because with him incriminating himself with his own words, they have more credability with their accusations. I know that women and the media can lie about such things. But from what I have seen and heard of Trump's behaviour, I choose to believe the women who have come forward.

It might also be worth keeping in mind that these recent allegations aren't the only assault cases Trump is dealing with; he's currently engaged in a lawsuit relating to charges that he repeatedly raped a 13-year-old girl.

http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/

Nuremgard, Aldaur

Aldaur wrote:I can't imagine why anyone would envy our political circumstance since the first Clinton got elected.

On another note, I wonder how different UN peacekeeping would be if European powers still kept their colonies overseas. The world would undoubtedly be more stable and economically prosperous if we all kept our colonies.

I listened to a podcast by Dan Carlin that spoke to the oxymoronic nature of the US having been founded on the principles of self-rule and liberty while also pursuing an expansionist foreign policy against the wishes of those they invaded. I think this kind of falls into this category, given European nations' twentieth century commitment to liberal principles and colonial territories' desire for self-rule.

Nuremgard

Nuremgard wrote:I get what you're saying. I do. I just feel that now with that tape being released, his victims may feel it's better to come forward now because with him incriminating himself with his own words, they have more credability with their accusations. I know that women and the media can lie about such things. But from what I have seen and heard of Trump's behaviour, I choose to believe the women who have come forward.

Well people our innocent until proven guilty in our system. Also, he could easily be lying. We all know how insecure of a man he is. In addition, he technically said nothing that incriminates himself because the releasing of that recording makes it publicated hearsay, which isn't admissible in court. So it did them a disservice to release it, but contextually, it isn't very damning in a legal sense. They also wouldn't be able to pick people who have strong opinions about the recording (preferably people who have never heard of the recording) when they choose people to sit on the jury. So while it may have stained him in public opinion, it may have allowed him to go scott free in court if the allegations are actually true.

Jaslandia wrote:It might also be worth keeping in mind that these recent allegations aren't the only assault cases Trump is dealing with; he's currently engaged in a lawsuit relating to charges that he repeatedly raped a 13-year-old girl.

http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/

Jesus Christ. I hadn't heard about that one. That is vile.

Aldaur wrote:Well people our innocent until proven guilty in our system.

Regardless, if this twat is elected, America will have officially declared to the world, "yes, we are stupid."

Jaslandia, Aldaur

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I listened to a podcast by Dan Carlin that spoke to the oxymoronic nature of the US having been founded on the principles of self-rule and liberty while also pursuing an expansionist foreign policy against the wishes of those they invaded. I think this kind of falls into this category, given European nations' twentieth century commitment to liberal principles and colonial territories' desire for self-rule.

#F*ckImperialism

Aldaur

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I listened to a podcast by Dan Carlin that spoke to the oxymoronic nature of the US having been founded on the principles of self-rule and liberty while also pursuing an expansionist foreign policy against the wishes of those they invaded. I think this kind of falls into this category, given European nations' twentieth century commitment to liberal principles and colonial territories' desire for self-rule.

We are so far gone from what we were founded on that we should just stop pretending. Plus, nations change.

Jaslandia wrote:It might also be worth keeping in mind that these recent allegations aren't the only assault cases Trump is dealing with; he's currently engaged in a lawsuit relating to charges that he repeatedly raped a 13-year-old girl.

http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/

It'd be pretty hard to get out of that one if he did it. Most juries have a soft spot for children.

Jaslandia

Aldaur wrote:Well people our innocent until proven guilty in our system. Also, he could easily be lying. We all know how insecure of a man he is. In addition, he technically said nothing that incriminates himself because the releasing of that recording makes it publicated hearsay, which isn't admissible in court. So it did them a disservice to release it, but contextually, it isn't very damning in a legal sense. They also wouldn't be able to pick people who have strong opinions about the recording (preferably people who have never heard of the recording) when they choose people to sit on the jury. So while it may have stained him in public opinion, it may have allowed him to go scott free in court if the allegations are actually true.

If publicated hearsay were a thing, then the phrase "you have the right to remain silent" would not be a thing. Past and current recordings of a person saying things that pay credence to the essence of the crime being discussed is entirely relevant- unless a judge in a court of law rules otherwise. Given that we're not a court of law but a collection of electors and anxious spectators, I believe him having said what he has while being recorded is entirely relevant to those wishing to decipher whether he is a sexual offender or not.

Nuremgard, Aldaur

Nuremgard wrote:Jesus Christ. I hadn't heard about that one. That is vile.

Regardless, if this twat is elected, America will have officially declared to the world, "yes, we are stupid."

He isn't going to get elected. He already lost months ago. And we already declared that when we elected Bush after the election fraud and then elected Obama twice.

Nuremgard wrote:#F*ckImperialism

#MehItsAlright

Aldaur wrote:We are so far gone from what we were founded on that we should just stop pretending. Plus, nations change.

It'd be pretty hard to get out of that one if he did it. Most juries have a soft spot for children.

Then get to amending that constitution of yours post haste. Chop chop.

Aldaur

Continental Commonwealths wrote:If publicated hearsay were a thing, then the phrase "you have the right to remain silent" would not be a thing. Past and current recordings of a person saying things that pay credence to the essence of the crime being discussed is entirely relevant- unless a judge in a court of law rules otherwise. Given that we're not a court of law but a collection of electors and anxious spectators, I believe him having said what he has while being recorded is entirely relevant to those wishing to decipher whether he is a sexual offender or not.

It's like if a person was being accused of paedophilia had a recording of them remarking upon the attractiveness of a child. Yeah, might not mean they raped a kid but seems pretty damn relevant to the accusation considering the content of their words.

Jaslandia, Aldaur, Continental Commonwealths

Aldaur wrote:He isn't going to get elected. He already lost months ago. And we already declared that when we elected Bush after the election fraud and then elected Obama twice.

#MehItsAlright

I am very much against imperialism but you know this anyways.

Aldaur

Continental Commonwealths wrote:If publicated hearsay were a thing, then the phrase "you have the right to remain silent" would not be a thing. Past and current recordings of a person saying things that pay credence to the essence of the crime being discussed is entirely relevant- unless a judge in a court of law rules otherwise. Given that we're not a court of law but a collection of electors and anxious spectators, I believe him having said what he has while being recorded is entirely relevant to those wishing to decipher whether he is a sexual offender or not.

Publicated hearsay is when information regarding a trial is publicated in public through media. There has been numerous cases where information that was public before the trial was used in the trial and then the appellate court called it a mistrial because it unfairly discriminates against the defendant due to media bias. An example would be if I went on TV, got mad and said "I'm going to kill you!". That information can't be used in murder trial, or any trial as substantial evidence. In my personal opinion, it is a stupid precedent, but that's how it is in our legal system.

Nuremgard wrote:It's like if a person was being accused of paedophilia had a recording of them remarking upon the attractiveness of a child. Yeah, might not mean they raped a kid but seems pretty damn relevant to the accusation considering the content of their words.

I agree, but unfortunately it isn't the case.

Nuremgard wrote:I am very much against imperialism but you know this anyways.

I think of imperialism the same way I think of dictatorships. Some places need it to be stable. Imperialism is the prime way for humans to organize and develop throughout most of human history. Democracy and independence isn't suitable everywhere.

Aldaur wrote:Publicated hearsay is when information regarding a trial is publicated in public through media. There has been numerous cases where information that was public before the trial was used in the trial and then the appellate court called it a mistrial because it unfairly discriminates against the defendant due to media bias. An example would be if I went on TV, got mad and said "I'm going to kill you!". That information can't be used in murder trial, or any trial as substantial evidence. In my personal opinion, it is a stupid precedent, but that's how it is in our legal system.

So, again, entirely at the discretion of the presiding judge within a court of law? The same phrase, entirely outside the realm of public or media exposure, could be discredited by a presiding judge if he or she ruled that circumstances somewhat warranted or excused the utterance given the situation at hand. We the public, recently going to vote in an election in which the accused is on the ballot or who are spectating said election of a neighbour nation, are not constrained by any such legal precedences- we must rely on our own moral compasses to deem whether such statements by a candidate for the presidency should be excused.

Aldaur

Aldaur wrote:I agree, but unfortunately it isn't the case.

I think of imperialism the same way I think of dictatorships. Some places need it to be stable. Imperialism is the prime way for humans to organize and develop throughout most of human history. Democracy and independence isn't suitable everywhere.

I agree that in some places democracy isn't compatible with the culture. But I do not believe that one country should rule over another.

Aldaur, Continental Commonwealths

Continental Commonwealths wrote:So, again, entirely at the discretion of the presiding judge within a court of law? The same phrase, entirely outside the realm of public or media exposure, could be discredited by a presiding judge if he or she ruled that circumstances somewhat warranted or excused the utterance given the situation at hand. We the public, recently going to vote in an election in which the accused is on the ballot or who are spectating said election of a neighbour nation, are not constrained by any such legal precedences- we must rely on our own moral compasses to deem whether such statements by a candidate for the presidency should be excused.

It is, but regardless of what the trial judge decides the appellate judge always reverses a decision that violates that precedent. It would be highly irregular if they didn't. Hearsay and publicated hearsay is a little different, and the presiding judges usually has more discretion if it is not publicated.

I am simply talking about what it is in court, not the arena of public opinion. Opinionate all you want:p

Nuremgard wrote:I agree that in some places democracy isn't compatible with the culture. But I do not believe that one country should rule over another.

Imperialism isn't always bad. Not seeing the clear benefits it presents is inexcusable. Sure, it's no fun for the natives to be under someone else's rule, but without the support of a more powerful country, a lot of these nations fall into chaos as they have in Africa and the Middle East (also, is it me or does anyone think it is weird that the middle east is the only region without an actual name such as Europe, Asia, Americas, etc.).

Aldaur wrote:It is, but regardless of what the trial judge decides the appellate judge always reverses a decision that violates that precedent. It would be highly irregular if they didn't. Hearsay and publicated hearsay is a little different, and the presiding judges usually has more discretion if it is not publicated.

I am simply talking about what it is in court, not the arena of public opinion. Opinionate all you want:p

I think this is entirely dependent upon the legal jurisdiction to which you refer, but I'll freely admit that I personally strayed a bit from what is permissable in the legal realm and what is oft considered within the realm of public opinion. My bad. Usual blame victim- gin :P

Aldaur

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I think this is entirely dependent upon the legal jurisdiction to which you refer, but I'll freely admit that I personally strayed a bit from what is permissable in the legal realm and what is oft considered within the realm of public opinion. My bad. Usual blame victim- gin :P

That is true, it could just be States in the 9th Circuit, I am not sure if it is true elsewhere. I was a little confused why you kept talking about public opinion, but that's okay haha

Aldaur wrote:Imperialism isn't always bad. Not seeing the clear benefits it presents is inexcusable. Sure, it's no fun for the natives to be under someone else's rule, but without the support of a more powerful country, a lot of these nations fall into chaos as they have in Africa and the Middle East (also, is it me or does anyone think it is weird that the middle east is the only region without an actual name such as Europe, Asia, Americas, etc.).

The Middle East always had its sectarian troubles but western imperialism did not help matters. Just look at Afghanistan and Iraq. Those countries were "liberated" by the US, UK and their allies and look what happened. Iraq became a lawless sh!thole which fell prey to IS psychopaths and Afghanistan's Taliban dictatorship was replaced by ruthless warlords who basically did the same as the Taliban but were more friendly to the West.

It is easy for the person from the ruling nation to tell the person from the ruled nation how good they've got it and how they should be ever so grateful. The Brits did it for centuries but our empire fell apart in the end. Even if the countries became worse off after the British left or were kicked out, it shows that people have no desire to be ruled over by another nation or people who believe themselves to be superior. Of course, some do believe their countries were better off under imperial rule. It's just like many Scots believe they're better under Westminster rule.

As I often say, every colony has its quislings.

Greater Banitia, Aldaur, Continental Commonwealths

Nuremgard wrote:The Middle East always had its sectarian troubles but western imperialism did not help matters. Just look at Afghanistan and Iraq. Those countries were "liberated" by the US, UK and their allies and look what happened. Iraq became a lawless sh!thole which fell prey to IS psychopaths and Afghanistan's Taliban dictatorship was replaced by ruthless warlords who basically did the same as the Taliban but were more friendly to the West.

It is easy for the person from the ruling nation to tell the person from the ruled nation how good they've got it and how they should be ever so grateful. The Brits did it for centuries but our empire fell apart in the end. Even if the countries became worse off after the British left or were kicked out, it shows that people have no desire to be ruled over by another nation or people who believe themselves to be superior. Of course, some do believe their countries were better off under imperial rule. It's just like many Scots believe they're better under Westminster rule.

As I often say, every colony has its quislings.

What the US did in Iraq was utterly irresponsible. We should have never left in such a manner and if we were going to go in there, we should have planned to stay there or at least have a proper exit plan, which we did not have. Our political leaders won't admit this, but our military leaders all knew that leaving would be a mistake. I can't remember her name at the moment, but Bush's Secretary of Defense said some very wise words in regards to Iraq and Afghanistan. If we were going to invade, we needed to be able to be prepared to stay in Iraq for 100 years and Afghanistan for 350 years. We should have learned from the success stories that were postwar Germany and Japan.

Many empires did well in their regions. The Caliphates and Ottoman Empire did very well keeping stability in the region. The only limit to imperialism is culture, which is something we have discovered in recent years. Imperialism really only lasts if the imperial power shares the same culture as those who are being ruled over. Otherwise, it will be short-lived. It is far too late for Europeans to take back their colonies, and the US shouldn't go annexing Iraq or Afghanistan. What we should do is raise up imperial powers that can dominate each region. China is a perfect example of this for Asia. Iran could be a solution for the ME, and so on.

Aldaur wrote:That is true, it could just be States in the 9th Circuit, I am not sure if it is true elsewhere. I was a little confused why you kept talking about public opinion, but that's okay haha

Sorry, it's a hot topic, even for a Canadian- hard to keep straight which convos, text or NS, are legal or public in nature, alcohol enhancement notwithstanding :P

Aldaur

Long live [nation=short]Nuremgard[/nation], illegitimate President of the new CFN :P

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Aldaur

Well it's 5:20am. I should not be discussing imperialism and the Middle East at 5:20am. I should be in bed. Goodnight, lads.

Aldaur, Continental Commonwealths

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Long live [nation=short]Nuremgard[/nation], illegitimate President of the new CFN :P

I dunno how it happened. It just did lol accidental coup. Soz!

Continental Commonwealths

Nuremgard wrote:Well it's 5:20am. I should not be discussing imperialism and the Middle East at 5:20am. I should be in bed. Goodnight, lads.

Good night, boyo!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2641537/The-best-disssssguise-Caterpillar-looks-acts-like-snake-scare-predators.html

Wtf? A caterpillar that looks like a snake. That's pretty cool!

Aldaur wrote:What the US did in Iraq was utterly irresponsible. We should have never left in such a manner and if we were going to go in there, we should have planned to stay there or at least have a proper exit plan, which we did not have. Our political leaders won't admit this, but our military leaders all knew that leaving would be a mistake. I can't remember her name at the moment, but Bush's Secretary of Defense said some very wise words in regards to Iraq and Afghanistan. If we were going to invade, we needed to be able to be prepared to stay in Iraq for 100 years and Afghanistan for 350 years. We should have learned from the success stories that were postwar Germany and Japan.

Many empires did well in their regions. The Caliphates and Ottoman Empire did very well keeping stability in the region. The only limit to imperialism is culture, which is something we have discovered in recent years. Imperialism really only lasts if the imperial power shares the same culture as those who are being ruled over. Otherwise, it will be short-lived. It is far too late for Europeans to take back their colonies, and the US shouldn't go annexing Iraq or Afghanistan. What we should do is raise up imperial powers that can dominate each region. China is a perfect example of this for Asia. Iran could be a solution for the ME, and so on.

Condoleezza Rice - Bush's SoS, not SoD (Rumsfeld and Robert Gates were the SoD's from 2001 to 2011)

As for the benevolent imperialist powers, while China could be a potential solution (so long as the CPC establishes doctrine in favor of expansion or by some off chance an actual empire is founded), Iran would not be so much as an option: given that the ethnically Iranian peoples have been traditionally seen as foreigners from the Semitic Arab states, an attempt by an imperialist Iran to try and establish itself as a regional hegemony would be a bad idea, if one takes into account the Iran-Iraq War the power-players that appeared (the only nominal Arab states to support Iran were Syria, which had Alawite Shia Arabs at the helm of power, and Libya under Gaddafi). The only way the Iranians could take Middle Eastern territories are by appealing to religious demographics (primarily in Syria and Iraq, though Iraq would have to be swayed with Shia Arab governors or a duumvirate of Sunni and Shia Arabs governing the Iraqi region without fear of armed insurrection by Sunnis, and even then the Gulf Arab states would probably back Sunni separatists to fend off the Iranians in a larger proxy war. Azerbaijan could also be claimed, but only if the Turks would allow Azerbaijan to become a province) or by ethnic composition (the Kurds could be convinced into a viceroyalty system given their shared Persian background, and the Iranians could shift focus towards Central Asia: Afghanistan is primarily Persian in its demographics, and the Balochistan province in Pakistan could be ceded. Within the -stans, Tajikistan is the only viable state as its Persian, but Azerbaijan could be ceded, despite being Turkish, to lay the groundwork of claiming both North and South Ossetia under the guise of a Pan-Iranian state. This would mean that a Pashto viceroyalty may need to be established from both Afghanistan and Pakistan to appease them). Then again, going by standard puppet states, Iran could simply fund political groups in surrounding nations to begin moving towards Iran as a power, with the Iranians funding and establishing a military presence to keep their puppet leaders in power, minimizing the chance of appearing as a rogue imperial state.

Aldaur

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:Condoleezza Rice - Bush's SoS, not SoD (Rumsfeld and Robert Gates were the SoD's from 2001 to 2011)

As for the benevolent imperialist powers, while China could be a potential solution (so long as the CPC establishes doctrine in favor of expansion or by some off chance an actual empire is founded), Iran would not be so much as an option: given that the ethnically Iranian peoples have been traditionally seen as foreigners from the Semitic Arab states, an attempt by an imperialist Iran to try and establish itself as a regional hegemony would be a bad idea, if one takes into account the Iran-Iraq War the power-players that appeared (the only nominal Arab states to support Iran were Syria, which had Alawite Shia Arabs at the helm of power, and Libya under Gaddafi). The only way the Iranians could take Middle Eastern territories are by appealing to religious demographics (primarily in Syria and Iraq, though Iraq would have to be swayed with Shia Arab governors or a duumvirate of Sunni and Shia Arabs governing the Iraqi region without fear of armed insurrection by Sunnis, and even then the Gulf Arab states would probably back Sunni separatists to fend off the Iranians in a larger proxy war. Azerbaijan could also be claimed, but only if the Turks would allow Azerbaijan to become a province) or by ethnic composition (the Kurds could be convinced into a viceroyalty system given their shared Persian background, and the Iranians could shift focus towards Central Asia: Afghanistan is primarily Persian in its demographics, and the Balochistan province in Pakistan could be ceded. Within the -stans, Tajikistan is the only viable state as its Persian, but Azerbaijan could be ceded, despite being Turkish, to lay the groundwork of claiming both North and South Ossetia under the guise of a Pan-Iranian state. This would mean that a Pashto viceroyalty may need to be established from both Afghanistan and Pakistan to appease them). Then again, going by standard puppet states, Iran could simply fund political groups in surrounding nations to begin moving towards Iran as a power, with the Iranians funding and establishing a military presence to keep their puppet leaders in power, minimizing the chance of appearing as a rogue imperial state.

Yes her, that's right. Thank you for the correction.

In regards to the Iran acting as a power, your argument to dismiss the idea is based on the idea that the lesser nations would have to consent. Well....let's just say that coercion can be a little more forceful as history has shown to be the case. The Ottomans united a land made up of many different ethnicities and religions. Iran can do the same and the reason I picked Iran out of those nations is because they are in a relatively strong position, especially after that horrid Iran deal, they are interested in being a power, and their brand of nationalism gives them the political willpower to dominate others, something all other regimes in the ME lack. People say violence never solves anything, but it sure as hell solves a lot to me. If you want something done, use force and it will happen.

P.s. I am not saying violence is ethical but that it is effective and that is what we are talking about, not ethics. Just want to make that clear.

P.s.p.s. It's time for bed :p

Aldaur wrote:Yes her, that's right. Thank you for the correction.

In regards to the Iran acting as a power, your argument to dismiss the idea is based on the idea that the lesser nations would have to consent. Well....let's just say that coercion can be a little more forceful as history has shown to be the case. The Ottomans united a land made up of many different ethnicities and religions. Iran can do the same and the reason I picked Iran out of those nations is because they are in a relatively strong position, especially after that horrid Iran deal, they are interested in being a power, and their brand of nationalism gives them the political willpower to dominate others, something all other regimes in the ME lack. People say violence never solves anything, but it sure as hell solves a lot to me. If you want something done, use force and it will happen.

P.s. I am not saying violence is ethical but that it is effective and that is what we are talking about, not ethics. Just want to make that clear.

P.s.p.s. It's time for bed :p

At least until I.S.-like groups start appearing, then the standard cycle of uprisings begin :p

DEFCON 3 - Round house.

Air Force ready to mobilize in 15 minutes.

Hi I am. New so what is the story

Penguania And Antarctica

Thedutchrepublic wrote:Hi I am. New so what is the story

Well, from looking at the rmb Ruclax has become stupid and started banjecting everybody from montaris.

Yeah... and then this region appeared.

so, in total, this community of people has a total of 4 exodus.

Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus

I love you all :D

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Crato, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus, Humpheria Major

Tserra wrote:I love you all :D

ok

Thedutchrepublic wrote:Hi I am. New so what is the story

That TG you send me; I'm assuming Dutch is your language. I don't speak it, even if my flag is the Prince's Flag. But if you want a map claim, just tell me

Penguania And Antarctica, Freewire

A Tory councillor said opposition to Brexit should be considered treason. How very democratic.

Latrovia, Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica

Well one butt your motto is also Dutch so there was confusion

Latrovia

Hello guys. I'm so sorry for the delay of the DIP but my personal day schedule has been ruined.

[spoiler=Today are:]

Today are:

- Black Poetry Day (United States)

- Columbus Day (Colombia)

- Dessalines Day (Haiti)

- Digital Society Day (India)

- Edge Day (Straight Edge Movement)

- Heroes' Day (Jamaica)

- International Day for the Eradication of Poverty

- Loyalty Day (Argentina)

- Mother's Day (Argentina)

- National Clean Your Virtual Desktop Day (United States)

- National Mulligan Day (United States)

- National Pasta Day (United States)

- Spreadsheet Day

- Sukkot (Judaism)

- Wear Something Gaudy Day

[/spoiler]

[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 456 - Battle of Placentia: Ricimer, supported by Majorian (comes domesticorum), defeats the Roman usurper Avitus near Piacenza (Northern Italy) .

- 1091 - London tornado of 1091: A tornado thought to be of strength T8/F4 strikes the heart of London.

- 1456 - The University of Greifswald is established, making it the second oldest university in northern Europe (also for a period the oldest in Sweden, and Prussia).

- 1558 - Poczta Polska, the Polish postal service, is founded.

- 1604 - Kepler's Supernova: German astronomer Johannes Kepler observes a supernova in the constellation Ophiuchus.

- 1610 - French king Louis XIII is crowned in Reims Cathedral.

- 1662 - Charles II of England sells Dunkirk to France for 40,000 pounds.

- 1800 - Britain takes control of the Dutch colony of Curacao.

- 1814 - Eight people die in the London Beer Flood.

- 1888 - Thomas Edison files a patent for the Optical Phonograph (the first movie).

- 1905 - The October Manifesto issued by Tsar Nicholas II of Russia (October 30th in the Gregorian calendar).

- 1917 - First British bombing of Germany in World War I.

- 1931 - Al Capone is convicted of income tax evasion.

- 1933 - Albert Einstein flees Nazi Germany and moves to the United States.

- 1941 - World War II: a German submarine attacks an American ship for the first time in the war.

- 1941 - German troops execute the male population of the villages Kerdyllia in Serres, Greece.

- 1956 - The first commercial nuclear power station is officially opened by Queen Elizabeth II in Sellafield,in Cumbria, England.

- 1961 - Scores of Algerian protesters (some claim up to 400) are massacred by the Paris police at the instigation of former Nazi collaborator Maurice Papon, then chief of the Prefecture of Police.

- 1970 - Montreal: Quebec Vice-Premier and Minister of Labour Pierre Laporte murdered by members of the FLQ terrorist group.

- 1977 - German Autumn: Four days after it is hijacked, Lufthansa Flight 181 lands in Mogadishu, Somalia, where a team of German GSG 9 commandos later rescues all remaining hostages on board.

- 1979 - Mother Teresa is awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

- 1989 - Peaceful Revolution: The East German Politburo votes to remove Erich Honecker from his role as General Secretary of the Socialist Unity Party of Germany.

- 1992 - Having gone to the wrong house for a Halloween party, Japanese exchange student Yoshihiro Hattori is shot and killed by the homeowner in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.

- 2001 - Israeli tourism minister Rehavam Ze'evi becomes the first Israeli minister to be assassinated in a terrorist attack.

- 2003 - The pinnacle is fitted on the roof of Taipei 101, a 101-floor skyscraper in Taipei, allowing it to surpass the Petronas Twin Towers in Kuala Lumpur by 56 metres (184 ft) and become the world's tallest highrise.

[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1813 - Georg Büchner, German-Swiss poet and playwright

- 1817 - Syed Ahmad Khan, Indian philosopher and scholar

- 1853 - Grand Duchess Maria Alexandrovna of Russia

- 1912 - Pope John Paul I.

- 1915 - Arthur Miller, American playwright and screenwriter

- 1918 - Rita Hayworth, American actress, singer and dancer

- 1920 - Montgomery Clift, American actor

- 1933 - Soeur Sourire aka The Singing Nun, Belgian singer-songwriter, guitarist, and nun

- 1933 - William Anders, Hong Kong-American general and astronaut

- 1938 - Evel Knievel, American motorcycle rider and stuntman

- 1969 - Wyclef Jean, Haitian-American rapper, producer, and actor

- 1972 - Eminem, American rapper, producer, and actor

- 1979 - Kimi Räikkönen, Finnish race car driver

[/spoiler]

Quote of the day

A mind is like a parachute, it doesn’t work if it isn’t open.

- Frank Zappa -

Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.

Jaslandia, Continental Commonwealths, Tserra, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Hello guys. I'm so sorry for the delay of the DIP but my personal day schedule has been ruined.

[spoiler=Today are:]

Today are:

- Black Poetry Day (United States)

- Columbus Day (Colombia)

- Dessalines Day (Haiti)

- Digital Society Day (India)

- Edge Day (Straight Edge Movement)

- Heroes' Day (Jamaica)

- International Day for the Eradication of Poverty

- Loyalty Day (Argentina)

- Mother's Day (Argentina)

- National Clean Your Virtual Desktop Day (United States)

- National Mulligan Day (United States)

- National Pasta Day (United States)

- Spreadsheet Day

- Sukkot (Judaism)

- Wear Something Gaudy Day

[/spoiler]

[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 456 - Battle of Placentia: Ricimer, supported by Majorian (comes domesticorum), defeats the Roman usurper Avitus near Piacenza (Northern Italy) .

- 1091 - London tornado of 1091: A tornado thought to be of strength T8/F4 strikes the heart of London.

- 1456 - The University of Greifswald is established, making it the second oldest university in northern Europe (also for a period the oldest in Sweden, and Prussia).

- 1558 - Poczta Polska, the Polish postal service, is founded.

- 1604 - Kepler's Supernova: German astronomer Johannes Kepler observes a supernova in the constellation Ophiuchus.

- 1610 - French king Louis XIII is crowned in Reims Cathedral.

- 1662 - Charles II of England sells Dunkirk to France for 40,000 pounds.

- 1800 - Britain takes control of the Dutch colony of Curacao.

- 1814 - Eight people die in the London Beer Flood.

- 1888 - Thomas Edison files a patent for the Optical Phonograph (the first movie).

- 1905 - The October Manifesto issued by Tsar Nicholas II of Russia (October 30th in the Gregorian calendar).

- 1917 - First British bombing of Germany in World War I.

- 1931 - Al Capone is convicted of income tax evasion.

- 1933 - Albert Einstein flees Nazi Germany and moves to the United States.

- 1941 - World War II: a German submarine attacks an American ship for the first time in the war.

- 1941 - German troops execute the male population of the villages Kerdyllia in Serres, Greece.

- 1956 - The first commercial nuclear power station is officially opened by Queen Elizabeth II in Sellafield,in Cumbria, England.

- 1961 - Scores of Algerian protesters (some claim up to 400) are massacred by the Paris police at the instigation of former Nazi collaborator Maurice Papon, then chief of the Prefecture of Police.

- 1970 - Montreal: Quebec Vice-Premier and Minister of Labour Pierre Laporte murdered by members of the FLQ terrorist group.

- 1977 - German Autumn: Four days after it is hijacked, Lufthansa Flight 181 lands in Mogadishu, Somalia, where a team of German GSG 9 commandos later rescues all remaining hostages on board.

- 1979 - Mother Teresa is awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

- 1989 - Peaceful Revolution: The East German Politburo votes to remove Erich Honecker from his role as General Secretary of the Socialist Unity Party of Germany.

- 1992 - Having gone to the wrong house for a Halloween party, Japanese exchange student Yoshihiro Hattori is shot and killed by the homeowner in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.

- 2001 - Israeli tourism minister Rehavam Ze'evi becomes the first Israeli minister to be assassinated in a terrorist attack.

- 2003 - The pinnacle is fitted on the roof of Taipei 101, a 101-floor skyscraper in Taipei, allowing it to surpass the Petronas Twin Towers in Kuala Lumpur by 56 metres (184 ft) and become the world's tallest highrise.

[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1813 - Georg Büchner, German-Swiss poet and playwright

- 1817 - Syed Ahmad Khan, Indian philosopher and scholar

- 1853 - Grand Duchess Maria Alexandrovna of Russia

- 1912 - Pope John Paul I.

- 1915 - Arthur Miller, American playwright and screenwriter

- 1918 - Rita Hayworth, American actress, singer and dancer

- 1920 - Montgomery Clift, American actor

- 1933 - Soeur Sourire aka The Singing Nun, Belgian singer-songwriter, guitarist, and nun

- 1933 - William Anders, Hong Kong-American general and astronaut

- 1938 - Evel Knievel, American motorcycle rider and stuntman

- 1969 - Wyclef Jean, Haitian-American rapper, producer, and actor

- 1972 - Eminem, American rapper, producer, and actor

- 1979 - Kimi Räikkönen, Finnish race car driver

[/spoiler]

Quote of the day

A mind is like a parachute, it doesn’t work if it isn’t open.

- Frank Zappa -

Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.

Yay! Better late than nevah! :D

Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus

Special session of the House of Delegates will convene at 4:30 Eastern Time today on the Discord to approve the nominees for government positions. Thereafter, the Discord Administration issue will likely be discussed.

The President will attend to address the House and witness the proceedings, but as a reminder, the President does not serve as a voting member of the House.

Regards,

Humpheria Major

President-Elect

Confederacy of Free Nations

Vista Major, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus

In an hour a Special Session of the House of Delegates will be called to order. The purpose of the session is to confirm appointments.

It's kinda funny that people which proclaim that they are the utmost individualistic people are often those which follow every trend regardless if it is fashion, life-style or technology. They try to be so individual that they are all uniformed.

Nuremgard, Latrovia, Aldaur

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:It's kinda funny that people which proclaim that they are the utmost individualistic people are often those which follow every trend regardless if it is fashion, life-style or technology. They try to be so individual that they are all uniformed.

Bloody conformists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOcjQhWN0cM

Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:Bloody conformists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOcjQhWN0cM

Oh. Have I touched a sore spot ?

Aldaur

The President's Cabinet has been approved in full.

Jaslandia, Vista Major

Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus wrote:The President's Cabinet has been approved in full.

Humpherian Administration:

President- Humpheria Major

Internal- Latrovia

Foreign- Sulania

Justice- Jaslandia

Defense- Aldwood

Three Chief Justice Candidates:

Tserra, Unfallious, Kalaron

Jaslandia, Latrovia, Aldaur, Vista Major, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Oh. Have I touched a sore spot ?

No...was just making a joke.

Penguania And Antarctica

Humpheria Major wrote:Humpherian Administration:

President- Humpheria Major

Internal- Latrovia

Foreign- Sulania

Justice- Jaslandia

Defense- Aldwood

Three Chief Justice Candidates:

Tserra, Unfallious, Kalaron

Chief Justice appointment will take place in-meeting on Wednesday.

Latrovia

I think our first rp should be about the coming zombie apocalypse.

Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus

Hello guys. I wish you all a pleasant day. :)

[spoiler=Today are:]

Today are:

- Alaska Day (Alaska)

- Independence Day (Azerbaijan)

- National Chocolate Cupcake Day (United States)

- National No Beard Day (United States)

- National Pharmacy Technician Day (United States)

- Necktie Day (Croatia and others)

- Persons Day (Canada)

- Pro-Life Day of Silent Solidarity (United States)

[/spoiler]

[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 320 – Pappus of Alexandria, Greek philosopher, observes an eclipse of the Sun and writes a commentary on The Great Astronomer (Almagest).

- 614 – King Chlothar II promulgates the Edict of Paris (Edictum Chlotacharii), a sort of Frankish Magna Carta that defend the rights of the Frankish nobles while it excludes Jews from all civil employment in the Frankish Kingdom.

- 629 – Dagobert I is crowned King of the Franks.

- 1356 – Basel earthquake, the most significant historic seismological event north of the Alps, destroys the town of Basel, Switzerland.

- 1386 – Opening of Heidelberg University.

- 1540 – Spanish conquistador Hernando de Soto's forces destroy the fortified town of Mabila in present-day Alabama, killing Tuskaloosa.

- 1648 – Boston Shoemakers form first American labor organization.

- 1775 – American Revolutionary War: The Burning of Falmouth (now Portland, Maine).

- 1818 – University of Bonn is founded.

- 1851 – Herman Melville's Moby-Dick is first published as The Whale by Richard Bentley of London.

- 1867 – United States takes possession of Alaska after purchasing it from Russia for $7.2 million. Celebrated annually in the state as Alaska Day.

- 1921 – The Crimean Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic is formed as part of the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic.

- 1922 – The British Broadcasting Company (later Corporation) is founded by a consortium, to establish a nationwide network of radio transmitters to provide a national broadcasting service.

- 1929 – The Judicial Committee of the Privy Council overrules the Supreme Court of Canada in Edwards v. Canada when it declares that women are considered "Persons" under Canadian law.

- 1944 – World War II: Soviet Union begins the liberation of Czechoslovakia from Nazi Germany.

- 1944 – World War II: The state funeral of Field Marshal Erwin Rommel takes place in Ulm Germany.

- 1945 – The USSR's nuclear program receives plans for the United States plutonium bomb from Klaus Fuchs at the Los Alamos National Laboratory.

- 1945 – Argentine military officer and politician Juan Perón marries actress Eva "Evita" Duarte.

- 1954 – Texas Instruments announces the first transistor radio.

- 1967 – The Soviet probe Venera 4 reaches Venus and becomes the first spacecraft to measure the atmosphere of another planet.

- 1979 – The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) begins allowing people to have home satellite earth stations without a federal government license.

- 1991 – The Supreme Council of Azerbaijan adopts a declaration of independence from the Soviet Union.

- 2003 – Bolivian gas conflict: Bolivian President Gonzalo Sánchez de Lozada, is forced to resign and leave Bolivia.

- 2007 – Karachi bombing: A suicide attack on a motorcade carrying former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto kills 139 and wounds 450 more. Bhutto herself is uninjured.

[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1127 – Emperor Go-Shirakawa of Japan

- 1663 – Prince Eugene of Savoy

- 1679 – Ann Putnam, Jr., American witness in the Salem witch trials

- 1777 – Heinrich von Kleist, German author and poet

- 1831 – Frederick III, German Emperor

- 1859 – Henri Bergson, French philosopher and theologian, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1919 – Pierre Trudeau, Canadian lawyer, academic, and politician, 15th Prime Minister of Canada

- 1921 – Jesse Helms, American soldier, journalist, and politician

- 1926 – Klaus Kinski, German-American actor, director, and screenwriter

- 1926 – Chuck Berry, American singer-songwriter and guitarist

- 1927 – George C. Scott, American actor and director

- 1946 – Howard Shore, Canadian composer, conductor, and producer

- 1952 – Chuck Lorre, American director, producer, and screenwriter

- 1956 – Martina Navratilova, Czech-American tennis player and coach

- 1960 – Jean-Claude Van Damme, Belgian martial artist, actor, producer, and screenwriter

- 1984 – Robert Harting, German discus thrower

- 1984 – Lindsey Vonn, American skier

- 1987 – Zac Efron, American actor and singer

[/spoiler]

Quote of the day

Change your thoughts and you change your world.

- Norman Vincent Peale -

Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Flynnvakia, Tserra, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus

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Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus

Aldaur wrote:I think our first rp should be about the coming zombie apocalypse.

Wat

Aldaur

Aldaur wrote:I think our first rp should be about the coming zombie apocalypse.

Ever since the nuclear power accident all Mercunovan citizens have been zombies.

Not exactly apocalyptic, but I don't see why we couldn't make an RP like that.

Aldaur

Flynnvakia wrote:Wat

Halloween brings Zombies.

Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica

Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus wrote:Ever since the nuclear power accident all Mercunovan citizens have been zombies.

Not exactly apocalyptic, but I don't see why we couldn't make an RP like that.

The NS zombie hordes await. I think we should aim to have a safe region this year.

Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus

Killdash wrote:The NS zombie hordes await. I think we should aim to have a safe region this year.

Yes

Aldaur, Crato, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus

Flynnvakia wrote:Yes

Exotic

Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus

Killdash wrote:The NS zombie hordes await. I think we should aim to have a safe region this year.

I know one thing, and one thing only. I am gonna kill me some zombies dead this year. :D

Jaslandia, Killdash, Aldaur, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus

Can we do a Halloween party?

Jaslandia, Tserra

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Can we do a Halloween party?

That could be kind of cool.

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Can we do a Halloween party?

yes

Greetings comrades!

The Ministry of Interior has released the CITIZENSHIP APPLICATION ([B]http://s15.zetaboards.com/COFN/topic/10043924/1/#new[/B]) in the forums. We would like to ask existing members and non-registered members of our regional forums to apply for citizenship and take a more active part in our official regional portal.

The Ministry would like to thank you all for your co-operation. :)

Latrovia wrote:Greetings comrades!

The Ministry of Interior has released the CITIZENSHIP APPLICATION ([B]http://s15.zetaboards.com/COFN/topic/10043924/1/#new[/B]) in the forums. We would like to ask existing members and non-registered members of our regional forums to apply for citizenship and take a more active part in our official regional portal.

The Ministry would like to thank you all for your co-operation. :)

There is no reason that most of us should need to fill out a citizenship application. 90 percent of us were citizens in the MSRM, we should be citizens now. Its not like we dont know who has been with us, and who has not.

Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica

Tserra wrote:There is no reason that most of us should need to fill out a citizenship application. 90 percent of us were citizens in the MSRM, we should be citizens now. Its not like we dont know who has been with us, and who has not.

Yeah, citizen for like, half the lifetime of MSRM here.

Crato wrote:hi m8

Hiyo, wazzup?

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