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Jaslandia wrote:I agree, but I'm more worried about stuff like fake cancer 'cures' and other medical quackery. At least solar roadways and hyperloops can theoretically work, even if it'll be a very, VERY long time before such technology is viable.

True to the fake cures, that stuff is terrible with how it also abuses human lives >.>

That said, only the HP can work in theory tbh. Solar Roadways is a total joke simply because the material needed is on the far, far off end of "Could exist", like Cold Fusion tbh. Hyperloop's problem lies in a few physical laws regarding thermal expansion, pressure differentials and a few statements about human kind (Want to kill a few hundred? Each end of the Hyperloop test track for the West Coast would get about two tons of over-pressured air, or roughly the equivalent of 50KG of TNT if there was a vacuum failure, meanwhile, each terminal of the proposed track (with an incredibly conservative 1.6 meter wide tube) for the west coast would have something along the lines of 50 tons of TNT energy at each end). Mind you, thermal expansion could just as well kill everyone in each terminal considering that the strength of those pipes will drop over time from the heat of the desert. Of course, this ignores if the power supply for the tracks fail at either end, you'll die of asphyxiation pretty fast when stuck in a tube that'll need a full vacuum outside of it to safely open to rescue you while you're halfway between LA and San Fran.

BTW, these (https://i0.wp.com/usa.streetsblog.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2017/04/Hyperloop.jpg?w=650&crop=0%2C0px%2C100%2C355px&ssl=1) pipes for the HP are so weak they need internal support braces but are supposed to be able to withstand a near total vacuum on them.

Another bit of math, using the actual tube length and width, the blast wave from the tube rupturing would be about 15PSI...to put that in comparison, 10PSI is enough to cause severe damage to lungs and hearts, collapse concrete buildings and really is the point you start counting a lot more fatalities than injuries (https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docket/archive/pdfs/niosh-125/125-explosionsandrefugechambers.pdf) while 15PSI is more "Almost everyone blew up" with flavors of "The whole block is dead"

TBH I'm more scared if it does get built >.>

Jaslandia

Since I only got two replies, I'm posting it here again

Cesorion wrote:Question.

How should I name my rulling party (center-right)

Progressive-Conservative or

Liberal National?

The junior coalition partner will be named National or Progress, respectively

Penguania And Antarctica

Kalaron wrote:True to the fake cures, that stuff is terrible with how it also abuses human lives >.>

That said, only the HP can work in theory tbh. Solar Roadways is a total joke simply because the material needed is on the far, far off end of "Could exist", like Cold Fusion tbh. Hyperloop's problem lies in a few physical laws regarding thermal expansion, pressure differentials and a few statements about human kind (Want to kill a few hundred? Each end of the Hyperloop test track for the West Coast would get about two tons of over-pressured air, or roughly the equivalent of 50KG of TNT if there was a vacuum failure, meanwhile, each terminal of the proposed track (with an incredibly conservative 1.6 meter wide tube) for the west coast would have something along the lines of 50 tons of TNT energy at each end). Mind you, thermal expansion could just as well kill everyone in each terminal considering that the strength of those pipes will drop over time from the heat of the desert. Of course, this ignores if the power supply for the tracks fail at either end, you'll die of asphyxiation pretty fast when stuck in a tube that'll need a full vacuum outside of it to safely open to rescue you while you're halfway between LA and San Fran.

BTW, these (https://i0.wp.com/usa.streetsblog.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2017/04/Hyperloop.jpg?w=650&crop=0%2C0px%2C100%2C355px&ssl=1) pipes for the HP are so weak they need internal support braces but are supposed to be able to withstand a near total vacuum on them.

Another bit of math, using the actual tube length and width, the blast wave from the tube rupturing would be about 15PSI...to put that in comparison, 10PSI is enough to cause severe damage to lungs and hearts, collapse concrete buildings and really is the point you start counting a lot more fatalities than injuries (https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docket/archive/pdfs/niosh-125/125-explosionsandrefugechambers.pdf) while 15PSI is more "Almost everyone blew up" with flavors of "The whole block is dead"

TBH I'm more scared if it does get built >.>

Interesting. Never even thought of that.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GD6qtc2_AQA/maxresdefault.jpg

Good morning friends and foes. Wish you all a wonderful Sunday. :D

Jaslandia, Cesorion

Cesorion wrote:Since I only got two replies, I'm posting it here again

Liberal National

Nuremgard, Cesorion

Cesorion wrote:Since I only got two replies, I'm posting it here again

Progressive Conservative

Cesorion

Beep boop toot toot. :)

Jaslandia, Mercunova

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Beep boop toot toot. :)

Noot noot

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Cesorion wrote:Since I only got two replies, I'm posting it here again

I'm not keen on either. Progressive Conservatives is an oxymoron and Liberal National sounds vaguely left-wing. Unless this right-wing party is liberal in the sense of classical liberalism, then I'd go with Liberal National if you cant think of another name.

Penguania And Antarctica

[spoiler=Today is January 21 and today are:]

Today is January 21 and today are:

- Babinden (Bulgaria, Serbia)

- Birthday of Princess Ingrid Alexandra (Norway)

- Errol Barrow Day (Barbados)

- Flag Day (Quebec)

- Grandmother's Day (Poland)

- International Sweatpants Day

- Lady of Altagracia Day (Dominican Republic)

- Lincoln Alexander Day (Canada)

- National Granola Bar Day (United States)

- National Hugging Day (United States)

- Squirrel Appreciation Day

- Sri Panchami (Bangladesh)

[/spoiler]

[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 0763 – The Battle of Bakhamra between Alids and Abbasids near Kufa ends in a decisive Abbasid victory.

- 1525 – The Swiss Anabaptist Movement is founded when Conrad Grebel, Felix Manz, George Blaurock, and about a dozen others baptize each other in the home of Manz's mother in Zürich, breaking a thousand-year tradition of church-state union.

- 1535 – Following the Affair of the Placards, French Protestants are burned at the stake in front of the Cathedral of Notre Dame de Paris

- 1720 – Sweden and Prussia sign the Treaty of Stockholm.

- 1749 – The Teatro Filarmonico in Verona is destroyed by fire. It is rebuilt in 1754.

- 1774 – Abdul Hamid I became Sultan of the Ottoman Empire and Caliph of Islam.

- 1789 – The first American novel, The Power of Sympathy or the Triumph of Nature Founded in Truth, is printed in Boston.

- 1793 – After being found guilty of treason by the French National Convention, Louis XVI of France is executed by guillotine.

- 1861 – American Civil War: Jefferson Davis resigns from the United States Senate.

- 1893 – The Tati Concessions Land, formerly part of Matabeleland, is formally annexed to the Bechuanaland Protectorate, now Botswana.

- 1908 – New York City passes the Sullivan Ordinance, making it illegal for women to smoke in public, only to have the measure vetoed by the mayor.

- 1911 – The first Monte Carlo Rally takes place.

- 1915 – Kiwanis International is founded in Detroit.

- 1919 – Meeting of the First Dáil Éireann in the Mansion House Dublin. Sinn Féin adopts Ireland's first constitution. The first engagement of the Irish War of Independence, the Soloheadbeg ambush, County Tipperary.

- 1925 – Albania declares itself a republic.

- 1931 – Sir Isaac Isaacs is sworn in as the first Australian-born Governor-General of Australia.

- 1941 – Sparked by the murder of a German officer in Bucharest, Romania, the day before, members of the Iron Guard engaged in a rebellion and pogrom killing 125 Jews.

- 1948 – The Flag of Quebec is adopted and flown for the first time over the National Assembly of Quebec. The day is marked annually as Québec Flag Day.

- 1950 – American lawyer and government official Alger Hiss is convicted of perjury.

- 1954 – The first nuclear-powered submarine, the USS Nautilus, is launched in Groton, Connecticut by Mamie Eisenhower, the First Lady of the United States.

- 1960 – Little Joe 1B, a Mercury spacecraft, lifts off from Wallops Island, Virginia with Miss Sam, a female rhesus monkey on board.

- 1960 – Avianca Flight 671 crashes and burns upon landing at Montego Bay, Jamaica killing 37. It is the worst air disaster in Jamaica's history and the first for Avianca.

- 1961 – Four hundred thirty-five workers are buried alive when a mine in Coalbrook, Free State, South Africa collapses.

- 1968 – Vietnam War: Battle of Khe Sanh: One of the most publicized and controversial battles of the war begins.

- 1968 – A B-52 bomber crashes near Thule Air Base, contaminating the area after its nuclear payload ruptures. One of the four bombs remains unaccounted for after the cleanup operation is complete.

- 1971 – The current Emley Moor transmitting station, the tallest free-standing structure in the United Kingdom, begins transmitting UHF broadcasts.

- 1976 – Commercial service of Concorde begins with the London-Bahrain and Paris-Rio routes.

- 1981 – Production of the iconic DeLorean DMC-12 sports car begins in Dunmurry, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom.

- 1997 – The U.S. House of Representatives votes 395–28 to reprimand Newt Gingrich for ethics violations, making him the first Speaker of the House to be so disciplined.

- 1999 – War on Drugs: In one of the largest drug busts in American history, the United States Coast Guard intercepts a ship with over 4,300 kilograms (9,500 lb) of cocaine on board.

- 2000 – Ecuador: After the Ecuadorian Congress is seized by indigenous organizations, Col. Lucio Gutiérrez, Carlos Solorzano and Antonio Vargas depose President Jamil Mahuad. Gutierrez is later replaced by Gen. Carlos Mendoza, who resigns and allows Vice-President Gustavo Noboa to succeed Mahuad.

- 2003 – A 7.6 magnitude earthquake strikes the Mexican state of Colima, killing 29 and leaving approximately 10,000 people homeless.

- 2004 – NASA's MER-A (the Mars Rover Spirit) ceases communication with mission control. The problem lies in the management of its flash memory and is fixed remotely from Earth on February 6.

- 2005 – In Belmopan, Belize, the unrest over the government's new taxes erupts into riots.

- 2009 - Israel withdraws from the Gaza Strip, officially ending a three-week war it had with Hamas. However, intermittent air strikes by both sides continue in the weeks to follow.

- 2011 – Anti government demonstrations take place in Tirana, Albania. Five people lose their life from gunshots, allegedly fired from armed police protecting the Prime Minister's office. To date, no one has been held accountable for the deaths.

- 2017 – Over 400 cities across America and 160+ countries worldwide participate in a large-scale women's march, on Donald Trump's first full day as president of the United States.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1815 – Horace Wells, American dentist

- 1824 – Stonewall Jackson, American general

- 1867 – Ludwig Thoma, German paramedic and author

- 1905 – Christian Dior, French fashion designer, founded Christian Dior S.A.

- 1912 – Konrad Emil Bloch, German-American biochemist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1922 – Paul Scofield, English actor

- 1922 – Telly Savalas, American actor

- 1940 – Jack Nicklaus, American golfer and sportscaster

- 1941 – Richie Havens, American singer-songwriter and guitarist

- 1941 – Plácido Domingo, Spanish tenor and conductor

- 1950 – Billy Ocean, Trinidadian-English singer-songwriter

- 1953 – Paul Allen, American businessman and philanthropist, co-founded Microsoft

- 1954 – Thomas de Maizière, German politician, Federal Minister of the Interior

- 1955 – Jeff Koons, American painter and sculptor

- 1963 – Hakeem Olajuwon, Nigerian-American basketball player

- 1963 – Detlef Schrempf, German basketball player and coach

- 1981 – Michel Teló, Brazilian singer-songwriter

- 1982 – Simon Rolfes, German footballer

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Jaslandia, Vista Major, Mercunova

What has the SNP ever done for us?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy8dEz-1upM

(My friend was an extra in this broadcast.)

Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia

Nuremgard wrote:I'm not keen on either. Progressive Conservatives is an oxymoron and Liberal National sounds vaguely left-wing. Unless this right-wing party is liberal in the sense of classical liberalism, then I'd go with Liberal National if you cant think of another name.

Obviously in the classical sense...

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica

hello

Penguania And Antarctica

“Micromanagement, micromanagement, MICROMANAGEMENT!!!” your Minister for Domestic Affairs shouts, banging his fists on your table. “Those buffoons are seriously overreaching their authority! Every resolution that infernal Assembly passes is an attack on our ability to pass our own legislation! We can’t, and shouldn’t, have nations full of fools ignorant to our way of life make our decisions for us. We’d be better off without that godforsaken snakepit... we MUST resign from the World Assembly.”

Quick question, will this actually kick me out of WA?

Cesorion wrote:Obviously in the classical sense...

Liberal National then.

Cesorion

Nuremgard wrote:What has the SNP ever done for us?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy8dEz-1upM

(My friend was an extra in this broadcast.)

https://youtu.be/Qc7HmhrgTuQ

Spanelsko wrote:“Micromanagement, micromanagement, MICROMANAGEMENT!!!” your Minister for Domestic Affairs shouts, banging his fists on your table. “Those buffoons are seriously overreaching their authority! Every resolution that infernal Assembly passes is an attack on our ability to pass our own legislation! We can’t, and shouldn’t, have nations full of fools ignorant to our way of life make our decisions for us. We’d be better off without that godforsaken snakepit... we MUST resign from the World Assembly.”

Quick question, will this actually kick me out of WA?

Not sure. But even if it does, you can always re-apply and it won't take long at all.

Nuremgard, Spanelsko

Jaslandia wrote:https://youtu.be/Qc7HmhrgTuQ

Not sure. But even if it does, you can always re-apply and it won't take long at all.

Thank you King of Jaslandia.

Random question, for Axel, as much as we see your terrorist regime as a failed state we cant deny that we are the only failures here and the world.... and since after a while the government of UFIR bothered to look what is going on in the world we have been panicking a bit.... since we have seen the bit about the meeting of your wannabe EU and the reason we are scared is because of the part about this meeting also mentioning us. (WE fear that you, Soviets etc. would invade us) so we want to ask if we can be part of the meeting or at least know if we should prepare for second war which would crush what remained of our great Dictatorship.....

President of UFIR.

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia

Spanelsko wrote:(WE fear that Soviets would invade us).

You won't have to worry about that. As long as you stay peaceful, we won't.

Penguania And Antarctica, Spanelsko

Nuremgard, I got your Vexing VAT issue. I'm not comfortable with any of the choices xD.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Russkov Soviet wrote:Nuremgard, I got your Vexing VAT issue. I'm not comfortable with any of the choices xD.

Welcome to NS lol

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova

Nuremgard wrote:Welcome to NS lol

I ended up choosing Option #3

Nuremgard

Russkov Soviet wrote:I ended up choosing Option #3

Remind me what that was.

Uh... Tax the rich heavily, and help the poor?

“As always, there is a third option,” muses a passer-by with a voice of confidence. “There is no doubt that this tax disproportionately affects the poor, but we also can’t deny that it helps fund programmes that the poor themselves benefit from. Might I suggest reducing VAT on basic necessities while increasing it on luxury items? The rich might not like it, but it’s high time that they paid their dues to society and their fellow citizens.”

Leads to: "The richest individuals apparently buy nothing but noodles and toilet paper."

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

I return from the depths of hell

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia

Cesorion wrote:Since I only got two replies, I'm posting it here again

Progressive Conservative, given your Canadian ties. Liberal National is kind of Australian-esque, given their right-of-centre coalition parties.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Cesorion

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Progressive Conservative, given your Canadian ties. Liberal National is kind of Australian-esque, given their right-of-centre coalition parties.

I think the PC has it....

Russkov Soviet wrote:Uh... Tax the rich heavily, and help the poor?

“As always, there is a third option,” muses a passer-by with a voice of confidence. “There is no doubt that this tax disproportionately affects the poor, but we also can’t deny that it helps fund programmes that the poor themselves benefit from. Might I suggest reducing VAT on basic necessities while increasing it on luxury items? The rich might not like it, but it’s high time that they paid their dues to society and their fellow citizens.”

Leads to: "The richest individuals apparently buy nothing but noodles and toilet paper."

Good! Tax them til they squeal!

Russkov Soviet

Russkov Soviet wrote:You won't have to worry about that. As long as you stay peaceful, we won't.

War= We die

Stay Peaceful= We live

I think that the second option is better... i dont know why....

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia

Spanelsko wrote:War= We die

Stay Peaceful= We live

I think that the second option is better... i dont know why....

Because a war between us will be catastrophic and lead to the destruction of both our nations.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Spanelsko

Russkov Soviet wrote:Because a war between us will be catastrophic and lead to the destruction of both our nations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztZI2aLQ9Sw

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Spanelsko

Nuremgard wrote:Liberal National sounds vaguely left-wing.

I don't think I can name one party with a name like that that is left-wing.

Alruniea wrote:I don't think I can name one party with a name like that that is left-wing.

Nice flag.

Jaslandia

https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/106/590x/Prince-William-906537.jpg

Apparently that haircut cost him £118. Merc is right. His barber is ripping him off.

Look at that picture on the left. Tragic. He was his mum's double when he was younger. Had her facial features, her proclivity for blushing in front of the camera and thick, beautiful hair. Now those Windsor genes have kicked in hard.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=421225&p=33324604#p33324604

Deadline met with silence, so this is happening

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=421225&p=33324604#p33324604

Deadline met with silence, so this is happening

Good luck Pirates.

Russkov Soviet, Pirate Kingdoms

Jaslandia wrote:No offense to Tse, but it's times like this that make me think we should have a Deputy Mapmaker. It's certainly possible to RP without an exact location, but it makes it a lot harder, since you don't know who your neighbors are, what things affect you, how much coastline you have, etc.

No offense to me either, but I have kinda been having the same exact thought.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Tserra wrote:No offense to me either, but I have kinda been having the same exact thought.

I've been waiting for my map spot, but I can keep waiting (you might want to strike Fuhr off the map change, though); also, CONCORD's on the roll - al-Qarnan War 2: Electric Boogaloo :p

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:I've been waiting for my map spot, but I can keep waiting (you might want to strike Fuhr off the map change, though); also, CONCORD's on the roll - al-Qarnan War 2: Electric Boogaloo :p

Yeah, I was just about to update the map. I am sorry its taken so long to update. It does not feel to me like I have been gone for as long as I apparently was.

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Tserra wrote:Yeah, I was just about to update the map. I am sorry its taken so long to update. It does not feel to me like I have been gone for as long as I apparently was.

Hey, no biggie: personal life comes first

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Spanelsko

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=421225&p=33324604#p33324604

Deadline met with silence, so this is happening

Would I be breaking any walls if I sent a letter/message to the al-Quarn regarding my nations view/stance on said conflict? And what would be the best way to send said message?

Jaslandia

Russkov Soviet wrote:Would I be breaking any walls if I sent a letter/message to the al-Quarn regarding my nations view/stance on said conflict? And what would be the best way to send said message?

You can do what you want (letter on CG, post declaring solidarity on Newsfeed), and it's best to do it by those mediums

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia

The Talking Point

The working classes live and die on the fields of the farming communes.

Beautiful.....

Regarding the war in Somalia

UFIR will certainly remain neutral but we do support the government of Somalia. (i will mention this in the RP later if i have more things to write)

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia

Spanelsko wrote:The Talking Point

The working classes live and die on the fields of the farming communes.

Beautiful.....

Regarding the war in Somalia

UFIR will certainly remain neutral but we do support the government of Somalia. (i will mention this in the RP later if i have more things to write)

yey

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/106/590x/Prince-William-906537.jpg

Apparently that haircut cost him £118. Merc is right. His barber is ripping him off.

Look at that picture on the left. Tragic. He was his mum's double when he was younger. Had her facial features, her proclivity for blushing in front of the camera and thick, beautiful hair. Now those Windsor genes have kicked in hard.

https://youtu.be/b60iiT4VWKc?t=1m11s

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:yey

I have made my rather short response. (3:30am and I can't sleep xD)

Russkov Soviet wrote:I have made my rather short response. (3:30am and I can't sleep xD)

Same here, and I have to get up at 6:45 to get to class fml

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia

The Issue

Spanelsko has been hit with the worst drought in a hundred years; as a result, thirsty citizens and a growing number of brown lawns are pleading for a government response.

“This drought is a warning sign sent by our Creator!” shouts a strangely familiar-looking man who has just walked in from the desert clad in camel hair and sandals. “If this nation will only turn from its wicked ways and hearken unto our God, surely He shall grace us with water once more!”

This man is a genius!

The Talking Point

Spanelsko's newly-famous raindances to summon storms instead attract tourists from all over The Confederacy of Free Nations.

Jaslandia

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:I've been waiting for my map spot, but I can keep waiting (you might want to strike Fuhr off the map change, though); also, CONCORD's on the roll - al-Qarnan War 2: Electric Boogaloo :p

I’ve been waiting also

Penguania And Antarctica

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:CONCORD's on the roll - al-Qarnan War 2: Electric Boogaloo :p

Kalaron is deploying it's toys :>

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Pirate Kingdoms

Kalaron wrote:Kalaron is deploying it's toys :>

*sees Kalaronian arsenal*

OwO what's this?

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

A serial polygamist in the Dawn Isles caused chaos in the courts when he divorced his 47 wives. In response, the government has made prenups mandatory to save the courts money.

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova, Spanelsko

Nuremgard wrote:A serial polygamist in the Dawn Isles caused chaos in the courts when he divorced his 47 wives. In response, the government has made prenups mandatory to save the courts money.

dafuq are you guys, Mormons?

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:dafuq are you guys, Mormons?

Nope. We have our own religion called Dawnish Dualism. People can have multiple spouses of either sex. It's a very socially liberal country.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova

Nuremgard wrote:Nope. We have our own religion called Dawnish Dualism. People can have multiple spouses of either sex. It's a very socially liberal country.

Except for the whole white people are slaves part

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Mercunova wrote:Except for the whole white people are slaves part

No country is perfect.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=421225&p=33327341#p33327341

Addressing the map change

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia

[spoiler=Today is January 22 and today are:]

Today is January 22 and today are:

- Answer Your Cat’s Questions Day

- Celebration Of Life Day

- Day of Unity of Ukraine (Ukraine)

- Grandfather's Day (Poland)

- Hot Sauce Day

- National Blonde Brownie Day (United States)

- National Heroes Day (Cayman Islands)

- Plurinational State Foundation Day (Bolivia)

- Vasant Panchami (India)

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 0613 – Eight-month-old Constantine is crowned as co-emperor (Caesar) by his father Heraclius at Constantinople.

- 0871 – Battle of Basing: The West Saxons led by king Æthelred I are defeated by the Danelaw Vikings at Basing.

- 1506 – The first contingent of 150 Swiss Guards arrives at the Vatican.

- 1517 – The Ottoman Empire under Selim I defeats the Mamluk Sultanate and captures present-day Egypt at the Battle of Ridaniya.

- 1555 – The Ava Kingdom falls to the Taungoo Dynasty in what is now Burma.

- 1689 – The Convention Parliament convenes to determine whether James II and VII, the last Roman Catholic monarch of England, Ireland and Scotland, had vacated the thrones of England and Ireland when he fled to France in 1688.

- 1808 – The Portuguese royal family arrives in Brazil after fleeing the French army's invasion of Portugal two months earlier.

- 1824 – The Ashantis defeat British forces in the Gold Coast.

- 1849 – Second Anglo-Sikh War: The Siege of Multan ends after nine months when the last Sikh defenders of Multan, Punjab, surrender.

- 1863 – The January Uprising breaks out in Poland, Lithuania and Belarus. The aim of the national movement is to regain Polish–Lithuanian–Ruthenian Commonwealth from occupation by Russia.

- 1879 – The Battle of Isandlwana during the Anglo-Zulu War results in a British defeat.

- 1879 – The Battle of Rorke's Drift, also during the Anglo-Zulu War and just some 71km away from Isandlwana, results in a British victory.

- 1889 – Columbia Phonograph is formed in Washington, D.C.

- 1890 – The United Mine Workers of America is founded in Columbus, Ohio.

- 1901 – Edward VII is proclaimed King after the death of his mother, Queen Victoria.

- 1905 – Bloody Sunday in Saint Petersburg, beginning of the 1905 revolution.

- 1906 – SS Valencia runs aground on rocks on Vancouver Island, British Columbia, killing more than 130.

- 1915 – Over 600 people are killed in Guadalajara, Mexico, when a train plunges off the tracks into a deep canyon.

- 1917 – World War I: President Woodrow Wilson of the still-neutral United States calls for "peace without victory" in Europe.

- 1919 – Act Zluky is signed, unifying the Ukrainian People's Republic and the West Ukrainian National Republic.

- 1924 – Ramsay MacDonald becomes the first Labour Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.

- 1927 – Teddy Wakelam gives the first live radio commentary of a football match anywhere in the world, between Arsenal F.C. and Sheffield United at Highbury.

- 1941 – World War II: British and Commonwealth troops capture Tobruk from Italian forces during Operation Compass.

- 1943 – World War II: Australian and American forces defeat Japanese army and navy units in the bitterly-fought Battle of Buna–Gona.[1]

- 1944 – World War II: The Allies commence Operation Shingle, an assault on Anzio and Nettuno, Italy.

- 1946 – In Iran, Qazi Muhammad declares the independent people's Republic of Mahabad at Chahar Cheragh Square in the Kurdish city of Mahabad; he becomes the new president and Haji Baba Sheikh becomes the prime minister.

- 1946 – Creation of the Central Intelligence Group, forerunner of the Central Intelligence Agency.

- 1947 – KTLA, the first commercial television station west of the Mississippi River, begins operation in Hollywood.

- 1957 – Israel withdraws from the Sinai Peninsula.

- 1957 – The New York City "Mad Bomber", George P. Metesky, is arrested in Waterbury, Connecticut and charged with planting more than 30 bombs.

- 1963 – The Élysée Treaty of cooperation between France and Germany is signed by Charles de Gaulle and Konrad Adenauer.

- 1968 – Apollo 5 lifts off carrying the first Lunar module into space.

- 1968 – Operation Igloo White, a US electronic surveillance system to stop communist infiltration into South Vietnam begins installation.

- 1970 – The Boeing 747, the world's first "jumbo jet", enters commercial service for launch customer Pan American Airways with its maiden voyage from John F. Kennedy International Airport to London Heathrow Airport.

- 1971 – The Singapore Declaration, one of the two most important documents to the uncodified constitution of the Commonwealth of Nations, is issued.

- 1973 – The Supreme Court of the United States delivers its decisions in Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton, legalizing elective abortion in all fifty states.

- 1973 – The crew of Apollo 17 addresses a joint session of Congress after the completion of the final Apollo moon landing mission.

- 1973 – A chartered Boeing 707 explodes in flames upon landing at Kano Airport, Nigeria, killing 176.

- 1973 – In a bout for the world heavyweight boxing championship in Kingston, Jamaica, challenger George Foreman knocks down champion Joe Frazier six times in the first two rounds before the fight is stopped by referee Arthur Mercante. Foreman will reign as champion until October 30, 1974, when he loses The Rumble in the Jungle to Muhammad Ali in Kinsasha, Zaire.

- 1984 – The Apple Macintosh, the first consumer computer to popularize the computer mouse and the graphical user interface, is introduced during a Super Bowl XVIII television commercial.

- 1987 – Philippine security forces open fire on a crowd of 10,000–15,000 demonstrators at Malacañang Palace, Manila, killing 13.

- 1992 – Rebel forces occupy Zaire's national radio station in Kinshasa and broadcast a demand for the government's resignation.

- 1992 – Space Shuttle program: Dr. Roberta Bondar becomes the first Canadian woman and the first neurologist in space.

- 1995 – Israeli–Palestinian conflict: Beit Lid massacre: In central Israel, near Netanya, two Gazans blow themselves up at a military transit point, killing 19 Israelis.

- 1999 – Australian missionary Graham Staines and his two sons are burned alive by radical Hindus while sleeping in their car in Eastern India.

- 2002 – Kmart becomes the largest retailer in United States history to file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.

- 2006 – Evo Morales is inaugurated as President of Bolivia, becoming the country's first indigenous president.

- 2007 – At least 88 people are killed when two car bombs explode in the Bab Al-Sharqi market in central Baghdad, Iraq.

- 2015 – An explosion near a civilian trolley-bus in Donetsk kills at least thirteen people.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 0826 – Emperor Montoku of Japan

- 1440 – Ivan III of Russia

- 1552 – Walter Raleigh, English poet, soldier, courtier, and explorer

- 1561 – Francis Bacon, English philosopher and politician, Attorney General for England and Wales

- 1729 – Gotthold Ephraim Lessing, German philosopher and author

- 1788 – Lord Byron, English poet and playwright

- 1849 – August Strindberg, Swedish author, poet, and playwright

- 1865 – Wilbur Scoville, American chemist and pharmacist

- 1875 – D. W. Griffith, American director, producer, and screenwriter

- 1891 – Antonio Gramsci, Italian philosopher and politician

- 1898 – Sergei Eisenstein, Russian director and screenwriter

- 1900 – Ernst Busch, German actor and singer

- 1906 – Robert E. Howard, American author and poet

- 1907 – Douglas Corrigan, American pilot and engineer

- 1908 – Lev Landau, Azerbaijani-Russian physicist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1909 – U Thant, Burmese educator and diplomat, 3rd United Nations Secretary-General

- 1911 – Bruno Kreisky, Austrian lawyer and politician, 22nd Chancellor of Austria

- 1931 – Sam Cooke, American singer-songwriter

- 1940 – John Hurt, English actor

- 1953 – Jim Jarmusch, American director and screenwriter

- 1973 – Rogério Ceni, Brazilian footballer

[/spoiler]

Quote of the day

There are two ways of spreading light: to be the candle or the mirror that reflects it.

- Edith Wharton (American Author, 1862-1937) -

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Jaslandia, Vista Major, Axeldonia, Mercunova

Well this has been a slow day

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:Well this has been a slow day

Yes. Seems like we've been having more of those lately. Is everyone sleeping at the same time or something?

Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:Yes. Seems like we've been having more of those lately. Is everyone sleeping at the same time or something?

Well, I mean I've been starting classes and getting tired more easily, but I did notice that too

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:Well, I mean I've been starting classes and getting tired more easily, but I did notice that too

I have classes too, but those don't take up too much time, so that's not it (at least for me, anyway).

Penguania And Antarctica

The Issue

Due to the reigning monarch’s lack of heirs, which could conceivably cause a succession crisis, the aristocratic elite have begun to question the ancient law of primogeniture.

“I’m the eldest child, so I should get the throne!” shouts Princess Venus, who has a reputation for being completely undiplomatic. “It doesn’t matter that I’m a woman. I should have the same rights as a man to the throne. Why should the crown pass over me because of my genitals? It’s arcane! I mean, having a monarchy is arcane too, but never mind that...”

Never did i think that i will say this but the psychotic dictatorship of Iberia now has queen as its official monarch/emperor

(will be added to RP for fun)

Jaslandia

New RP message posted. In case you dont to read it here is the small summary of it.

New Monarch, Support for Somalia, Handland can use our bases, TCds is under our protection, cold relations with Axel, rebuilding.

EDIT:

Question: Is it possible to send volunteers into other nations? By this i mean if someone is at war that a nation could send in volunteers to fight for someone. Or is it banned?

Jaslandia

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:*sees Kalaronian arsenal*

OwO what's this?

That's a 155mm towed artillery piece, 12.22 meters long too :>

Spanelsko wrote:New RP message posted. In case you dont to read it here is the small summary of it.

New Monarch, Support for Somalia, Handland can use our bases, TCds is under our protection, cold relations with Axel, rebuilding.

EDIT:

Question: Is it possible to send volunteers into other nations? By this i mean if someone is at war that a nation could send in volunteers to fight for someone. Or is it banned?

You need the person's permission.

[spoiler=Today is January 23 and today are:]

Today is January 23 and today are:

- Bounty Day (Pitcairn Islands)

- Measure Your Feet Day

- National Handwriting Day (United States)

- National Pie Day (United States)

- Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose's Jayanti (Orissa, Tripura, and West Bengal, India)

- World Freedom Day (South Korea, Taiwan)

[/spoiler]

[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 0393 – Roman Emperor Theodosius I proclaims his eight-year-old son Honorius co-emperor.

- 0971 – Using crossbows, Song dynasty troops soundly defeat a war elephant corps of the Southern Han at Shao.

- 1264 – In the conflict between King Henry III of England and his rebellious barons led by Simon de Montfort, King Louis IX of France issues the Mise of Amiens, a one-sided decision in favour of Henry that later leads to the Second Barons' War.

- 1368 – In a coronation ceremony, Zhu Yuanzhang ascends the throne of China as the Hongwu Emperor, initiating Ming dynasty rule over China that would last for three centuries.

- 1546 – Having published nothing for eleven years, François Rabelais publishes the Tiers Livre, his sequel to Gargantua and Pantagruel.

- 1556 – The deadliest earthquake in history, the Shaanxi earthquake, hits Shaanxi province, China. The death toll may have been as high as 830,000.

- 1570 – James Stewart, 1st Earl of Moray, regent for the infant King James VI of Scotland, is assassinated by firearm, the first recorded instance of such.

- 1571 – The Royal Exchange opens in London.

- 1579 – The Union of Utrecht forms a Protestant republic in the Netherlands.

- 1656 – Blaise Pascal publishes the first of his Lettres provinciales.

- 1719 – The Principality of Liechtenstein is created within the Holy Roman Empire.

- 1789 – Georgetown College, the first Catholic university in the United States, is founded in Georgetown, Maryland (now a part of Washington, D.C.)

- 1793 – Second Partition of Poland.

- 1795 – After an extraordinary charge across the frozen Zuiderzee, the French cavalry captured 14 Dutch ships and 850 guns, in a rare occurrence of a battle between ships and cavalry.

- 1846 – Slavery in Tunisia is abolished.

- 1849 – Elizabeth Blackwell is awarded her M.D. by the Geneva Medical College of Geneva, New York, becoming the United States' first female doctor.

- 1870 – In Montana, U.S. cavalrymen kill 173 Native Americans, mostly women and children, in what becomes known as the Marias Massacre.

- 1879 – Anglo-Zulu War: the Battle of Rorke's Drift ends.

- 1899 – The Malolos Constitution is inaugurated, establishing the First Philippine Republic.

- 1899 – Emilio Aguinaldo is sworn in as President of the First Philippine Republic.

- 1900 – Second Boer War: The Battle of Spion Kop between the forces of the South African Republic and the Orange Free State and British forces ends in a British defeat.

- 1904 – Ålesund Fire: the Norwegian coastal town Ålesund is devastated by fire, leaving 10,000 people homeless and one person dead. Kaiser Wilhelm II funds the rebuilding of the town in Jugendstil style.

- 1909 – RMS Republic, a passenger ship of the White Star Line, becomes the first ship to use the CQD distress signal after colliding with another ship, the SS Florida, off the Massachusetts coastline, an event that kills six people. The Republic sinks the next day.

- 1912 – The International Opium Convention is signed at The Hague.

- 1920 – The Netherlands refuses to surrender the exiled Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany to the Allies.

- 1937 – The trial of the anti-Soviet Trotskyist center sees seventeen mid-level Communists accused of sympathizing with Leon Trotsky and plotting to overthrow Joseph Stalin's regime.

- 1941 – Charles Lindbergh testifies before the U.S. Congress and recommends that the United States negotiate a neutrality pact with Adolf Hitler.

- 1942 – World War II: The Battle of Rabaul commences Japan's invasion of Australia's Territory of New Guinea.

- 1943 – World War II: Troops of Montgomery's Eighth Army capture Tripoli in Libya from the German–Italian Panzer Army.

- 1945 – World War II: German admiral Karl Dönitz launches Operation Hannibal.

- 1950 – The Knesset resolves that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel.

- 1957 – American inventor Walter Frederick Morrison sells the rights to his flying disc to the Wham-O toy company, which later renames it the "Frisbee".

- 1958 – After a general uprising and rioting in the streets, President Marcos Pérez Jiménez leaves Venezuela.

- 1960 – The bathyscaphe USS Trieste breaks a depth record by descending to 10,911 metres (35,797 ft) in the Pacific Ocean.

- 1961 – The Portuguese luxury cruise ship Santa Maria is hijacked by opponents of the Estado Novo regime with the intention of waging war until dictator António de Oliveira Salazar is overthrown.

- 1963 – The Guinea-Bissau War of Independence officially begins when PAIGC guerrilla fighters attack the Portuguese army stationed in Tite.

- 1964 – The 24th Amendment to the United States Constitution, prohibiting the use of poll taxes in national elections, is ratified.

- 1967 – Diplomatic relations between the Soviet Union and Ivory Coast are established.

- 1967 – Milton Keynes (England) is founded as a new town by Order in Council, with a planning brief to become a city of 250,000 people. Its initial designated area enclosed three existing towns and twenty one villages. The area to be developed was largely farmland, with evidence of continuous settlement dating back to the Bronze Age.

- 1973 – United States President Richard Nixon announces that a peace accord has been reached in Vietnam.

- 1986 – The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inducts its first members: Little Richard, Chuck Berry, James Brown, Ray Charles, Sam Cooke, Fats Domino, The Everly Brothers, Buddy Holly, Jerry Lee Lewis and Elvis Presley.

- 1997 – Madeleine Albright becomes the first woman to serve as United States Secretary of State.

- 1998 – Netscape announced Mozilla, with the intention to release Communicator code as open source.

- 2001 – Five people attempt to set themselves on fire in Beijing's Tiananmen Square, an act that many people later claim is staged by the Communist Party of China to frame Falun Gong and thus escalate their persecution.

- 2002 – U.S. journalist Daniel Pearl is kidnapped in Karachi, Pakistan and subsequently murdered.

- 2003 – A very weak signal from Pioneer 10 is detected for the last time, but no usable data can be extracted.

- 2018 – A 7.9 magnitude earthquake occurs in the Gulf of Alaska. It is tied as the sixth-largest earthquake ever recorded in the United States, but there are no reports of significant damage or fatalities.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1737 – John Hancock, American general and politician, 1st Governor of Massachusetts

- 1783 – Stendhal, French novelist

- 1832 – Édouard Manet, French painter

- 1840 – Ernst Abbe, German physicist and engineer

- 1855 – John Browning, American weapons designer, founded the Browning Arms Company

- 1862 – David Hilbert, Russian-German mathematician and academic

- 1876 – Otto Diels, German chemist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1897 – Margarete Schütte-Lihotzky, Austrian architect

- 1897 – Subhas Chandra Bose, Indian activist and politician

- 1907 – Hideki Yukawa, Japanese physicist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1915 – W. Arthur Lewis, Saint Lucian-Barbadian economist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1918 – Gertrude B. Elion, American biochemist and pharmacologist, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1919 – Hans Hass, Austrian biologist and diver

- 1919 – Ernie Kovacs, American actor and game show host

- 1926 – Bal Thackeray, Indian journalist, cartoonist, and politician

- 1928 – Jeanne Moreau, French actress

- 1930 – Derek Walcott, Saint Lucian poet and playwright, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1938 – Georg Baselitz, German painter and sculptor

- 1940 – Armin Maiwald, German author, television director and producer

- 1944 – Rutger Hauer, Dutch actor, director, and producer

- 1950 – Richard Dean Anderson, American actor, producer, and composer

- 1951 – Chesley Sullenberger, American captain and pilot

- 1984 – Arjen Robben, Dutch footballer

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Quote of the day

To think too long about doing a thing often becomes its undoing.

- Eva Young -

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Jaslandia, Vista Major, Mercunova, Cesorion

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:- 1951 – Chesley Sullenberger, American captain and pilot

<3

Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

I saw Darkest Hour today. Quite a good film. Gary Oldman is fantastic in it. While I don't like Churchill personally, it gave me a newfound respect for him. He was the leader the UK needed at the time.

My English friend really enjoyed it. I joked to him that the film stroked his patriotic G-spot. He told me, "we'll make a patriot of you yet." My other friend said, "let's not go too far."

I agree. Let's not go too far lol. Good film though. I recommend it.

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova, Cesorion

Nuremgard wrote:I saw Darkest Hour today. Quite a good film. Gary Oldman is fantastic in it. While I don't like Churchill personally, it gave me a newfound respect for him. He was the leader the UK needed at the time.

My English friend really enjoyed it. I joked to him that the film stroked his patriotic G-spot. He told me, "we'll make a patriot of you yet." My other friend said, "let's not go too far."

I agree. Let's not go too far lol. Good film though. I recommend it.

I mean you're a scottish patriot already, aren't ya? :P

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia, Cesorion

Nuremgard wrote:I saw Darkest Hour today. Quite a good film. Gary Oldman is fantastic in it. While I don't like Churchill personally, it gave me a newfound respect for him. He was the leader the UK needed at the time.

My English friend really enjoyed it. I joked to him that the film stroked his patriotic G-spot. He told me, "we'll make a patriot of you yet." My other friend said, "let's not go too far."

I agree. Let's not go too far lol. Good film though. I recommend it.

No joke, I feel asleep in the cinema to it.

Like, it wanked off Churchill for 2 hours. Like, ok Churchill is alright, but tbh I don't need to see him theatrically tossed off for 2 hours.

Nuremgard, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

Unfallious wrote:No joke, I feel asleep in the cinema to it.

Like, it wanked off Churchill for 2 hours. Like, ok Churchill is alright, but tbh I don't need to see him theatrically tossed off for 2 hours.

Not to mention it's theatrical presentation of Chamberlain is, quite frankly, offensive.

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica

Unfallious wrote:No joke, I feel asleep in the cinema to it.

Like, it wanked off Churchill for 2 hours. Like, ok Churchill is alright, but tbh I don't need to see him theatrically tossed off for 2 hours.

Churchill was a mass murderer and a white supremacist~

woo

Vista Major, Lex Caledonia

Axeldonia wrote:Churchill was a mass murderer and a white supremacist~

woo

The mass murderer label can be placed on most British leaders post-1800 tbh so I don't really blame him for it anymore so than I do any other leader. The white supremacist label is also similarly problematic since most European states still held the colonial traditional belief that they were civilising an uncivilised world and were thus 'superior'. He was a product of the times, and I take that in consideration before I condemn the man for his actions.

That being said, Darkest Hour was 2 hours of overdramatised, barely accurate nonsense and I'm glad I got a nap during it.

Nuremgard, Vista Major, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia, Spanelsko

Unfallious wrote:The mass murderer label can be placed on most British leaders post-1800 tbh so I don't really blame him for it anymore so than I do any other leader. The white supremacist label is also similarly problematic since most European states still held the colonial traditional belief that they were civilising an uncivilised world and were thus 'superior'. He was a product of the times, and I take that in consideration before I condemn the man for his actions.

That being said, Darkest Hour was 2 hours of overdramatised, barely accurate nonsense and I'm glad I got a nap during it.

Aight, fair point.

Unfallious wrote:No joke, I feel asleep in the cinema to it.

Like, it wanked off Churchill for 2 hours. Like, ok Churchill is alright, but tbh I don't need to see him theatrically tossed off for 2 hours.

Unfallious wrote:Not to mention it's theatrical presentation of Chamberlain is, quite frankly, offensive.

Unfallious wrote:That being said, Darkest Hour was 2 hours of overdramatised, barely accurate nonsense and I'm glad I got a nap during it.
Wait, I’m still not clear. Did you like the film or not, Unf?

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Axel what one must do in order to join the European Communism?

Spanelsko wrote:Axel what one must do in order to join the European Communism?

It's called the European Community. And really, you just have to be located in europe at this point. You can join our first conference if you want to, we're about to set it up. That said, being an isolationist dictatorship that just banned trade with me doesn't help your case.

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Spanelsko

Axeldonia wrote:It's called the European Community. And really, you just have to be located in europe at this point. You can join our first conference if you want to, we're about to set it up. That said, being an isolationist dictatorship that just banned trade with me doesn't help your case.

OK European Community, i forgot the name and just remembered that it was EC.

First of all i am interested in this organisation.

Second we arent completely isolationist, we are neutral but already are making steps towards closer relations with Hand, Soviet, Somalia, and randomly the nations of your EU.

As for the reason we banned trade is because we still see you as a terrorist regime. (Anarchy= Freedom UFIR= Oppression) Anarchy=Freedom=Terrorist for us. In other words you are too free for us.

Spanelsko wrote:OK European Community, i forgot the name and just remembered that it was EC.

First of all i am interested in this organisation.

top 10 haunting photos taken seconds before disaster

Jaslandia, Lex Caledonia, Spanelsko

Spanelsko wrote:OK European Community, i forgot the name and just remembered that it was EC.

First of all i am interested in this organisation.

Second we arent completely isolationist, we are neutral but already are making steps towards closer relations with Hand, Soviet, Somalia, and randomly the nations of your EU.

As for the reason we banned trade is because we still see you as a terrorist regime. (Anarchy= Freedom UFIR= Oppression) Anarchy=Freedom=Terrorist for us. In other words you are too free for us.

Okay, but in all seriousness, sure. We're not an "Anarchy" per say though, we're a confederation with an directly democratic system of government.

Jaslandia, Spanelsko

Axeldonia wrote:Okay, but in all seriousness, sure. We're not an "Anarchy" per say though, we're a confederation with an directly democratic system of government.

ok so i was mistaken, i thought that Axeldonia is a confederacy of Anarchists since you have the anarcho-communist/syndicalist flag well now i feel stupid...

Then in that case i will have to stop the ban on trade at some point in time.

Also is this meeting going to happen on discord? or somewhere else?

Spanelsko wrote:ok so i was mistaken, i thought that Axeldonia is a confederacy of Anarchists since you have the anarcho-communist/syndicalist flag well now i feel stupid...

Then in that case i will have to stop the ban on trade at some point in time.

Also is this meeting going to happen on discord? or somewhere else?

We're kinda discussing that right now. Most probably I'll set up a forum RP for our meeting. And yes, we're an Anarcho-Syndicalist society, I was just describing how it actually works. It's not like there are no laws and everyone just runs around killing each other.

You're thinking of "Anarcho"-Capitalism.

Unfallious wrote:No joke, I feel asleep in the cinema to it.

Like, it wanked off Churchill for 2 hours. Like, ok Churchill is alright, but tbh I don't need to see him theatrically tossed off for 2 hours.

I didn't see it as overly praise-worthy of Churchill. I quite enjoyed it. I'm surprised a British patriot like yourself found it boring and I, a black-hearted Scottish nationalist hell-bent on breaking up the UK, liked it. But fair enough. What do you find offensive about Chamberlain's portrayal?

I liked Oldman's performance. He did the speeches well, had some great lines and he made me feel for Churchill as a man and as a leader. I was surprised it accomplished that but perhaps that was the intention of the film.

Axeldonia

Nuremgard wrote:I didn't see it as overly praise-worthy of Churchill. I quite enjoyed it. I'm surprised a British patriot like yourself found it boring and I, a black-hearted Scottish nationalist hell-bent on breaking up the UK, liked it. But fair enough. What do you find offensive about Chamberlain's portrayal?

I liked Oldman's performance. He did the speeches well, had some great lines and he made me feel for Churchill as a man and as a leader. I was surprised it accomplished that but perhaps that was the intention of the film.

I haven't seen the movie, but I will say that a lot of the threat to England was a bit overstated during the war. Operation Sealion was doomed to fail terribly if it was ever initiated (Like, badly...a full disaster for Germany) and things like the V-2 really, really sucked at it's job by any reasonable standard of operation. Lastly -and this is more of a downside for Montgomery- the general he favored was maybe the worst choice for cooperating with SHAEF considering that Mont liked to toe the line of disobeying orders until -and even after- he had to ask Eisenhower's forgiveness (If my remembering is right, that is. It's easily known that E was often at odds with the man).

Again, didn't see the movie, just commenting on the history of the situation.

Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:I didn't see it as overly praise-worthy of Churchill. I quite enjoyed it. I'm surprised a British patriot like yourself found it boring and I, a black-hearted Scottish nationalist hell-bent on breaking up the UK, liked it. But fair enough. What do you find offensive about Chamberlain's portrayal?

I liked Oldman's performance. He did the speeches well, had some great lines and he made me feel for Churchill as a man and as a leader. I was surprised it accomplished that but perhaps that was the intention of the film.

Chamberlain was integral to Churchill in getting him established among the Conservative parliamentary party. He associated with the tory whip to make sure everyone voted in line and he was a key part of Churchill's war cabinet. The presentation of him in the movie made him seem borderline obstructive. Not to mention the whole 'don't cheer till I dab my forehead with this handkerchief' thing was a load of crap. Churchill's "We will fight on the beach's speech" actually got a relatively lukewarm reception all-round within the commons, but it wasn't due to Chamberlain who assisted Churchill wholeheartedly until his death 6 months after resigning.

The technicals of the movie were really good, nice light/dark contrasting, it had decent cinematography, and the acting was really good; it's just not very historically accurate at all.

Kalaron wrote:I haven't seen the movie, but I will say that a lot of the threat to England was a bit overstated during the war. Operation Sealion was doomed to fail terribly if it was ever initiated (Like, badly...a full disaster for Germany) and things like the V-2 really, really sucked at it's job by any reasonable standard of operation. Lastly -and this is more of a downside for Montgomery- the general he favored was maybe the worst choice for cooperating with SHAEF considering that Mont liked to toe the line of disobeying orders until -and even after- he had to ask Eisenhower's forgiveness (If my remembering is right, that is. It's easily known that E was often at odds with the man).

Again, didn't see the movie, just commenting on the history of the situation.

The forgiveness thing was right: I believe it was Montgomery had pissed off Eisenhower by lecturing him while the latter was still SACEUR, and was about to lose his position as Ike drafted letters to both Roosevelt and Churchill putting up an ultimatum of either him stepping down or them removing Montgomery, so he had to go full on ass-kissing just to prevent the letters being sent.

Jaslandia, Kalaron

Unfallious wrote:Chamberlain was integral to Churchill in getting him established among the Conservative parliamentary party. He associated with the tory whip to make sure everyone voted in line and he was a key part of Churchill's war cabinet. The presentation of him in the movie made him seem borderline obstructive. Not to mention the whole 'don't cheer till I dab my forehead with this handkerchief' thing was a load of crap. Churchill's "We will fight on the beach's speech" actually got a relatively lukewarm reception all-round within the commons, but it wasn't due to Chamberlain who assisted Churchill wholeheartedly until his death 6 months after resigning.

The technicals of the movie were really good, nice light/dark contrasting, it had decent cinematography, and the acting was really good; it's just not very historically accurate at all.

Hmm. Fair enough. Was it at least accurate with the sniveling Lord Halifax?

Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:I saw Darkest Hour today. Quite a good film. Gary Oldman is fantastic in it. While I don't like Churchill personally, it gave me a newfound respect for him. He was the leader the UK needed at the time.

My English friend really enjoyed it. I joked to him that the film stroked his patriotic G-spot. He told me, "we'll make a patriot of you yet." My other friend said, "let's not go too far."

I agree. Let's not go too far lol. Good film though. I recommend it.

Good luck to him if he's actually trying to change your mind.

That sh!ts impossible

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Cesorion

Nuremgard wrote:Hmm. Fair enough. Was it at least accurate with the sniveling Lord Halifax?

oh yeah pretty much

Jaslandia

Unfallious wrote:oh yeah pretty much

What a sh!t he was.

Kalaron wrote:I haven't seen the movie, but I will say that a lot of the threat to England was a bit overstated during the war. Operation Sealion was doomed to fail terribly if it was ever initiated (Like, badly...a full disaster for Germany) and things like the V-2 really, really sucked at it's job by any reasonable standard of operation. Lastly -and this is more of a downside for Montgomery- the general he favored was maybe the worst choice for cooperating with SHAEF considering that Mont liked to toe the line of disobeying orders until -and even after- he had to ask Eisenhower's forgiveness (If my remembering is right, that is. It's easily known that E was often at odds with the man).

Again, didn't see the movie, just commenting on the history of the situation.

It's important to understand the perspective of 40's era Britons at that moment in time. It was very daunting to be alone fighting Nazi Germany, and parachute operations were a serious threat, as well as naval landings. It was a last resort to plan for, enough for them to spend money on it building forts and setting up the home guard. I think they were more than justified to be scared of a German invasion, even if the actual one (or the plans we have of one incarnation of it) we found is bad.

Jaslandia

Yukona wrote:It's important to understand the perspective of 40's era Britons at that moment in time. It was very daunting to be alone fighting Nazi Germany, and parachute operations were a serious threat, as well as naval landings. It was a last resort to plan for, enough for them to spend money on it building forts and setting up the home guard. I think they were more than justified to be scared of a German invasion, even if the actual one (or the plans we have of one incarnation of it) we found is bad.

Not really, because parachute operations from Nazi Germany would have found themselves destroyed in a pretty fast manner like how the Allies found their own forces later on in Operation Market Garden. It was understood -and later reinforced- that airborne forces have literally zero staying power which is why they drop on an objective and then pray to god that an actual mechanized brigade rolls on to relieve them. Against anything more than light infantry -and ironically, even against light infantry- they are worse. Further, while Churchill -and many Allied commanders- may have fetishized the concept, most people understood that it was impossible for Germany to execute on the basis of sheer manpower alone. They couldn't build their forces to the same capacity as the Allies could even without the US getting involved. Crete is a good example of this though it happened well after Sealion would have come into being.

Beyond that, still no. The Germans didn't have the navy for the operation, it's akin to people who ape the Russian's as having been able to invade Japan, really. The landing craft simply weren't there and would have taken a year or more to amass. That's disregarding the British advantage in terms of naval capacity, of course, which would have precluded an invasion without a significant lead in aircraft, ships or manpower aboard said ships. Obviously, all three of those requirements were near impossible.

So sure, the average Bill could be terrified of the evil Germans landing on their beaches, his military told him it could happen after all. But the higher ranking members of the military probably understood that it was a crock of sh!t with minimal possibilities.

E: They have zero staying power for a very simple reason. They cannot carry proper equipment with them that would allow them to stay...like Tanks or tankettes with them. That's partially why FCS failed years later, it's physically impossible to adequately armour or arm a <11 ton vehicle and keep it able to be dropped in short order, especially if it's meant to be manned while one does it.

Jaslandia

Kalaron wrote:Not really, because parachute operations from Nazi Germany would have found themselves destroyed in a pretty fast manner like how the Allies found their own forces later on in Operation Market Garden. It was understood -and later reinforced- that airborne forces have literally zero staying power which is why they drop on an objective and then pray to god that an actual mechanized brigade rolls on to relieve them. Against anything more than light infantry -and ironically, even against light infantry- they are worse. Further, while Churchill -and many Allied commanders- may have fetishized the concept, most people understood that it was impossible for Germany to execute on the basis of sheer manpower alone. They couldn't build their forces to the same capacity as the Allies could even without the US getting involved. Crete is a good example of this though it happened well after Sealion would have come into being.

Beyond that, still no. The Germans didn't have the navy for the operation, it's akin to people who ape the Russian's as having been able to invade Japan, really. The landing craft simply weren't there and would have taken a year or more to amass. That's disregarding the British advantage in terms of naval capacity, of course, which would have precluded an invasion without a significant lead in aircraft, ships or manpower aboard said ships. Obviously, all three of those requirements were near impossible.

So sure, the average Bill could be terrified of the evil Germans landing on their beaches, his military told him it could happen after all. But the higher ranking members of the military probably understood that it was a crock of sh!t with minimal possibilities.

E: They have zero staying power for a very simple reason. They cannot carry proper equipment with them that would allow them to stay...like Tanks or tankettes with them. That's partially why FCS failed years later, it's physically impossible to adequately armour or arm a <11 ton vehicle and keep it able to be dropped in short order, especially if it's meant to be manned while one does it.

Hindsight's twenty twenty, I feel like much of what you're saying is opinion as fact.

Yukona wrote:Hindsight's twenty twenty, I feel like much of what you're saying is opinion as fact.

And an understanding of their own position -and realistic thoughts about German industry- is what they had. Germany cannot magic up a fleet to match the RN in a few days or months, and the capabilities of paratroopers is a simple matter of fact and logical conclusions unless you somehow expect them to counter heavy weapons with their bodies I guess? They can't, and that was reinforced during Market Garden where they held bridges for about an hour to a couple hours and then got wreaked...because the purpose of a paratrooper is to take and be relieved by someone with staying power.

Anyhow, if you really care to just say it's opinion, that's fine. I'm just documenting various things about the war -and war in general- that occurred during it, occurred since and will occur in the future.

https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_confederacy_general/page=display_region_rmb?postid=29104861#p29104861

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=421225&p=33337011#p33337011

New developments in the works.

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Yukona wrote:It's important to understand the perspective of 40's era Britons at that moment in time. It was very daunting to be alone fighting Nazi Germany, and parachute operations were a serious threat, as well as naval landings. It was a last resort to plan for, enough for them to spend money on it building forts and setting up the home guard. I think they were more than justified to be scared of a German invasion, even if the actual one (or the plans we have of one incarnation of it) we found is bad.

To be fair, Britain wasn't alone. The Soviets were our allies and were fighting a savage assault from the Nazis on the eastern front. And the Americans did come into it near the end. However, I don't doubt that British resolve helped keep morale up. Had the UK caved to peace terms, Europe would have fallen. Also, us winning the Battle of Britain dealt a severe blow to the Reich.

Note: Australia, Canada, New Zealand, India and China were also on our side. I cant specify their exact contributions to the war effort, however. Still worth mentioning I think.

Jaslandia

Kalaron wrote:I haven't seen the movie, but I will say that a lot of the threat to England was a bit overstated during the war. Operation Sealion was doomed to fail terribly if it was ever initiated (Like, badly...a full disaster for Germany) and things like the V-2 really, really sucked at it's job by any reasonable standard of operation. Lastly -and this is more of a downside for Montgomery- the general he favored was maybe the worst choice for cooperating with SHAEF considering that Mont liked to toe the line of disobeying orders until -and even after- he had to ask Eisenhower's forgiveness (If my remembering is right, that is. It's easily known that E was often at odds with the man).

Again, didn't see the movie, just commenting on the history of the situation.

It's very easy to say that looking back 80 years after it happened. During that time, to the people of England, an invasion was a very real threat. The Germans had just taken over France, the low countries, Denmark, Poland, and Norway. They owned western Europe. At the moment, they seemed unstoppable. So it wasn't really overstated during the war, it was a legitimate fear. As for the V1 and V2 rockets, the biggest thing was that they struck fear into the hearts and minds of the British people. Suddenly the German's didn't have to send bombers, but could just launch rockets at the country and they didn't really have a way to defend themselves from such an attack.

Kalaron wrote:I haven't seen the movie, but I will say that a lot of the threat to England was a bit overstated during the war. Operation Sealion was doomed to fail terribly if it was ever initiated (Like, badly...a full disaster for Germany) and things like the V-2 really, really sucked at it's job by any reasonable standard of operation. Lastly -and this is more of a downside for Montgomery- the general he favored was maybe the worst choice for cooperating with SHAEF considering that Mont liked to toe the line of disobeying orders until -and even after- he had to ask Eisenhower's forgiveness (If my remembering is right, that is. It's easily known that E was often at odds with the man).

Again, didn't see the movie, just commenting on the history of the situation.

Overstated threat, perhaps, but still very real. I'm not an official expert, and I haven't seen the movie either, but from what I've gathered, basically everyone except possibly Hitler knew that Operation Sealion was just a German pipe dream: While the Germans came close to overtaking the Royal Air Force (RAF) in the air (more on that in a bit), the Royal Navy was still a huge obstacle to a land invasion of England, and there was no way the Germans could beat the British at sea. The real threat to England was the air bombings/'the Blitz', which were intended to not only exhaust and weaken the Royal Air Force, but also to demoralize the British citizenry and government, forcing the British government to agree to peace with Germany, and allowing Germany to focus on Russia in the east. And it almost worked: by focusing on RAF-related targets, the RAF was pretty badly weakened, and almost lost to the German air force (Luftwaffe). However, when Germany started bombing civilian targets (which started due to an accident on the Germans' part, mind you), that's when the German plans for peace fell apart, as not only did these civilian bombings strengthen British resolve to fight on, but it also gave the RAF time to rebuild their forces and become strong enough to beat the Luftwaffe. Everything was downhill from there.

https://youtu.be/zOXbYAd6TLo

The Empire Of Handland wrote:It's very easy to say that looking back 80 years after it happened. During that time, to the people of England, an invasion was a very real threat. The Germans had just taken over France, the low countries, Denmark, Poland, and Norway. They owned western Europe. At the moment, they seemed unstoppable. So it wasn't really overstated during the war, it was a legitimate fear. As for the V1 and V2 rockets, the biggest thing was that they struck fear into the hearts and minds of the British people. Suddenly the German's didn't have to send bombers, but could just launch rockets at the country and they didn't really have a way to defend themselves from such an attack.

Again, for the average Bill the fear was very rational, however, the highest echelons of the military are vastly different to the average Bill in the information and outlook to said common Bill. It ultimately comes down to a question of if the Germans could have produced the needed ships for an invasion as well as the pilots and aircraft needed to guard it, and I consider it doubtful that they subscribed to the notion of Germany suddenly building the frankly massive navy needed alongside the cost of that increase to aircraft production.

Mind you, I'm not saying that there was no threat of attrition, rather, that the apparent threat of an invasion for those in the know -so, educated on more than simple heresay- was simply less.

Jaslandia wrote:Overstated threat, perhaps, but still very real. I'm not an official expert, and I haven't seen the movie either, but from what I've gathered, basically everyone except possibly Hitler knew that Operation Sealion was just a German pipe dream: While the Germans came close to overtaking the Royal Air Force (RAF) in the air (more on that in a bit), the Royal Navy was still a huge obstacle to a land invasion of England, and there was no way the Germans could beat the British at sea. The real threat to England was the air bombings/'the Blitz', which were intended to not only exhaust and weaken the Royal Air Force, but also to demoralize the British citizenry and government, forcing the British government to agree to peace with Germany, and allowing Germany to focus on Russia in the east. And it almost worked: by focusing on RAF-related targets, the RAF was pretty badly weakened, and almost lost to the German air force (Luftwaffe). However, when Germany started bombing civilian targets (which started due to an accident on the Germans' part, mind you), that's when the German plans for peace fell apart, as not only did these civilian bombings strengthen British resolve to fight on, but it also gave the RAF time to rebuild their forces and become strong enough to beat the Luftwaffe. Everything was downhill from there.

https://youtu.be/zOXbYAd6TLo

Frankly speaking, the biggest problem with the Luftwaffe 's approach was that it was simply untenable for them. During the Blitz, the British produced more aircraft (just pulling from Wiki since it's 1:22AM and I need sleep bad) at 10K compared to 8K. Further, while the Luftwaffe had a somewhat higher reserve to draw from, crewing requirements reduced the number advantage significantly as the loss of a single seat fighter is less than that of a fully equipped bomber with four or five men inside of it.

The battle of Britain, in my honest opinion, was fated to fall to the British. It simply required far too much of Germany to invade (Especially while at war in the East) which left them with attrition bombing alone.

[As an aside, we should probably just agree to disagree, y'all. I'm getting a bit bummed from conversatin' on old battles like that ;p]

Jaslandia

As an aside, I've decided to shift focus mostly [if not entirely] to the K-440. If I have time I'll finish my 155mm Howitzer, but if not then it'll keep better than the Ultra-5th-Gen.

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