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Continental Commonwealths wrote:Can we get another canuckophile, please? We're rounding up a posse to go beat on Jas.

If "beat on" is defined as offering him free heathcare and beavertails, that is.

I dunno of any other canuckophiles aboat, buddy, but I'll be sure to look eh

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Continental Commonwealths wrote:What's wrong with being Canada, huh?

*pops knuckles*

*nervously puts on a fake Canadian accent* Uh -- I mean -- Eh, nothing eh. Canada is great, eh. It's ehhing great! I'm just saying their power and military isn't exactly on the same level as the U.S. or Jaslandia, eh?

Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:*nervously puts on a fake Canadian accent* Uh -- I mean -- Eh, nothing eh. Canada is great, eh. It's ehhing great! I'm just saying their power and military isn't exactly on the same level as the U.S. or Jaslandia, eh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo9dJm33xHY

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

https://www.dubtrack.fm/join/confederacy-of-free-nations-dubtrack-server

Join me and Agh on the radio if ya want play some tunes and lay back you know

Penguania And Antarctica

Yukona wrote:https://www.dubtrack.fm/join/confederacy-of-free-nations-dubtrack-server

Join me and Agh on the radio if ya want play some tunes and lay back you know

Back in the old CFN (because this is the new CFN and no one can convince me otherwise), we had a "radio". Which was, if I'm not mistaken, a suggested song featured on the WFE that was changed like once every three months.

This seems to be an improvement.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, Percyton

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Back in the old CFN (because this is the new CFN and no one can convince me otherwise), we had a "radio". Which was, if I'm not mistaken, a suggested song featured on the WFE that was changed like once every three months.

This seems to be an improvement.

THIS IS COFN I WANT TO RETRACT MY VOTE NOW

Russian Fedration, Jaslandia, Vista Major, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Unfallious wrote:THIS IS COFN I WANT TO RETRACT MY VOTE NOW

THEN YOUR VOTE IS DEAD TO ME. IT'S SIX FEET UNDER IN A COFN!

(I'm kidding. Please vote for me. I need this job to support my Netflix addiction)

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Tserra, Yukona

Fun fact: the phrase union jack comes from James VI, King of Scotland, who inherited the throne of England. He wanted a new flag to represent his realm, a flag called the Jack which was a shortened version of Jacobus, the Latin form of James.

Jaslandia, Continental Commonwealths, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, Percyton, James The Red Engine

Nuremgard wrote:Fun fact: the phrase union jack comes from James VI, King of Scotland, who inherited the throne of England. He wanted a new flag to represent his realm, a flag called the Jack which was a shortened version of Jacobus, the Latin form of James.

Hey, that's interesting! I've always meant to look up the original of that.

And now that I can say I've learned something today, I can drink gin, eat curry, and watch Shameless with reckless abandon.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:Fun fact: the phrase union jack comes from James VI, King of Scotland, who inherited the throne of England. He wanted a new flag to represent his realm, a flag called the Jack which was a shortened version of Jacobus, the Latin form of James.

That actually is a really cool fact.

I'll try something now! Did you know that you cannot get an errection in space? I want to remember the reason why but I can't recall right now.

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Hey, that's interesting! I've always meant to look up the original of that.

And now that I can say I've learned something today, I can drink gin, eat curry, and watch Shameless with reckless abandon.

I used to watch Shameless (the British one obviously) but feel away from it after a while.

Another fun fact: Two forms of the UJ were used in Britain. In England, the version of the flag with the St. George's Cross superimposed over the saltire was used but in Scotland, the version with the saltire superimposed on the St. George's Cross was used. However, when both kingdoms united as one, Queen Anne's privy council voted for the English version to become the official flag of the UK.

Fantrum wrote:That actually is a really cool fact.

I'll try something now! Did you know that you cannot get an errection in space? I want to remember the reason why but I can't recall right now.

Those poor astronauts...

Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:I used to watch Shameless (the British one obviously) but feel away from it after a while.

Another fun fact: Two forms of the UJ were used in Britain. In England, the version of the flag with the St. George's Cross superimposed over the saltire was used but in Scotland, the version with the saltire superimposed on the St. George's Cross was used. However, when both kingdoms united as one, Queen Anne's privy council voted for the English version to become the official flag of the UK.

HEY! I said I already learned something today! (Kidding- also a cool fact!)

Fantrum wrote:That actually is a really cool fact.

I'll try something now! Did you know that you cannot get an errection in space? I want to remember the reason why but I can't recall right now.

😦

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Continental Commonwealths wrote:HEY! I said I already learned something today! (Kidding- also a cool fact!)😦

I'm full of useless trivia and knowledge.

Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:Those poor astronauts...

Seriously. I hope every space program's first priority is to get every person returning from space to a computer with an internet connection and an incognito browser.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Seriously. I hope every space program's first priority is to get every person returning from space to a computer with an internet connection and an incognito browser.

I think I remember reading something about PornHub wanting to shoot a porno in space, so a lack of erections could present a problem for that.

http://www.businessinsider.com/pornhub-is-making-a-sex-tape-in-space-2015-6

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:Those poor astronauts...

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Seriously. I hope every space program's first priority is to get every person returning from space to a computer with an internet connection and an incognito browser.

There goes all those Dreams of zero G space sex... man...

Jaslandia, Continental Commonwealths, Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:I think I remember reading something about PornHub wanting to shoot a porno in space, so a lack of erections could present a problem for that.

http://www.businessinsider.com/pornhub-is-making-a-sex-tape-in-space-2015-6

I bet the sex would be...out of this world.

Fantrum, The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Continental Commonwealths, Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:I think I remember reading something about PornHub wanting to shoot a porno in space, so a lack of erections could present a problem for that.

http://www.businessinsider.com/pornhub-is-making-a-sex-tape-in-space-2015-6

I'm pretty sure a large number of people have wanted to rut in space since the Gemini missions.

Jaslandia, Continental Commonwealths, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:I bet the sex would be...out of this world.

Get out.

Nuremgard, The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Continental Commonwealths, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:I bet the sex would be...out of this world.

Fantrum wrote:I'm pretty sure a large number of people have wanted to rut in space since the Gemini missions.

I love you both.

Fantrum, Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:I bet the sex would be...out of this world.

https://youtu.be/bcYppAs6ZdI

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica

Fantrum wrote:Get out.

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I love you both.

Jaslandia wrote:https://youtu.be/bcYppAs6ZdI

I'll get my coat.

Fantrum, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Fantrum wrote:There goes all those Dreams of zero G space sex... man...

Nah mate, the problem lies in blood pressure...so they'll need a pressure harness.

Space Bondage?

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Continental Commonwealths, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica

Kalaron wrote:Nah mate, the problem lies in blood pressure...so they'll need a pressure harness.

Space Bondage?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJtDXIazrMo

Penguania And Antarctica

Kalaron wrote:Nah mate, the problem lies in blood pressure...so they'll need a pressure harness.

Space Bondage?

And it got even better!

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:I'll get my coat.

Let me get your hat

:D

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Continental Commonwealths wrote:And it got even better!

Inb4 PornHub makes such a kinky video in space that no one is intense enough to watch it.

Jaslandia, Continental Commonwealths

Kalaron wrote:Nah mate, the problem lies in blood pressure...so they'll need a pressure harness.

Space Bondage?

That's what it was!

Oh boy space is getting really interesting! Why aren't we funding this!

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica

Kalaron wrote:Inb4 PornHub makes such a kinky video in space that no one is intense enough to watch it.

>a challenger approaches

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Fantrum wrote:>a challenger approaches

*ZZZCH*"Can the ghost of the space shuttle please stop harnessing the power of the sun to harass our crew? They specifically mentioned that they were not looking for a threeway with a space shuttle"*ZZZCH*

Fantrum wrote:That's what it was!

Oh boy space is getting really interesting! Why aren't we funding this!

TBH I'm ashamed that I know of simpler ways that don't even require a pressure harness.

I am proof there is no god.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:1. At the moment, Friedensreich and Russian Fedrations, because chemical weapons.

2. Tough one, but I might go with Tserra. While his nation and mine have a special relationship, toward other nations, I know Tse has quite a militaristic and conqueror streak. If I recall correctly, Tserra's whole society is extremely militaristic and Spartan-like, so anyone in Tserra's path should start praying for mercy now (which they might get occasionally, since OOC Tse is a priest). Friedensreich and Russian Fedrations, while frightening due to the chance of them using chemical weapons, don't seem to have the intentions to use those weapons for the time being, so I wouldn't consider them as dangerous as Tse.

3. Percyton, of course.

4. Tie between Penguania and Antarctica and Percyton, though with Percyton's coup a month back, I think Penguania might barely edge out ahead. All the O-HOPE signatories could also qualify, since neutrality and peace is basically the whole point of that alliance.

Alright. Stay safe, and we hope to see you soon!

Good morning, Vid!

https://youtu.be/pwJmVpp8fng

Thanks, Jas! I'm glad Percyton got high honors in two categories, especially when those two categories are the best ones.

Jaslandia, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, James The Red Engine

Nuremgard wrote:Fun fact: the phrase union jack comes from James VI, King of Scotland, who inherited the throne of England. He wanted a new flag to represent his realm, a flag called the Jack which was a shortened version of Jacobus, the Latin form of James.

So, what I'm getting out of this is that the British flag was this close to being called the 'Union James'? This is an outrage! Myself and everyone else who shares my name has been cheated out of this great and noble honor, in favor of people named Jack! In protest, I shall now exclusively refer to the British flag as the 'Union James', and no one can stop me.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

James The Red Engine wrote:So, what I'm getting out of this is that the British flag was this close to being called the 'Union James'? This is an outrage! Myself and everyone else who shares my name has been cheated out of this great and noble honor, in favor of people named Jack! In protest, I shall now exclusively refer to the British flag as the 'Union James', and no one can stop me.

Eh. James was a bit of a bawbag as we Scots would say.

Jaslandia, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, James The Red Engine

James The Red Engine wrote:So, what I'm getting out of this is that the British flag was this close to being called the 'Union James'? This is an outrage! Myself and everyone else who shares my name has been cheated out of this great and noble honor, in favor of people named Jack! In protest, I shall now exclusively refer to the British flag as the 'Union James', and no one can stop me.

Clarification: I meant James VI, not James the engine.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton, James The Red Engine

Nuremgard wrote:Eh. James was a bit of a bawbag as we Scots would say.

I'm not sure if I agree with that, but either way, we Jameses need to stick up for each other at least once in a while. Having the 'Union James' be its proper name would be a point of pride for all Jameses of the world.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

James The Red Engine wrote:So, what I'm getting out of this is that the British flag was this close to being called the 'Union James'? This is an outrage! Myself and everyone else who shares my name has been cheated out of this great and noble honor, in favor of people named Jack! In protest, I shall now exclusively refer to the British flag as the 'Union James', and no one can stop me.

On the bright side, I imagine our friend Jack the Front Loader is pretty happy about it. Jack works for Miss Jenny along with the other construction vehicles of the Pack, and they're involved in construction projects all over the island.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Oh sh*t, I missed thermo-nuclear war?

Damnit, I wanted it.

Jaslandia, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Atokad

Percyton wrote:Thanks, Jas! I'm glad Percyton got high honors in two categories, especially when those two categories are the best ones.

My pleasure, Percy. You deserve it.

Killdash wrote:Oh sh*t, I missed thermo-nuclear war?

Damnit, I wanted it.

Hey Killdash! It's been a little while. How are you?

Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Killdash wrote:Oh sh*t, I missed thermo-nuclear war?

Damnit, I wanted it.

What an odd request :)

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Jaslandia wrote:My pleasure, Percy. You deserve it.

Hey Killdash! It's been a little while. How are you?

Busy, really busy. It's my matric year, so I'm studying pretty much every day.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Andromitus wrote:What an odd request :)

Well, I'm a relatively odd country, :)

Jaslandia, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

I just want to point out i doubt that the Knowlage of me Having Chems would be public.

Post self-deleted by Atokad.

How do I claim me a piece of land on that sweet map befitting my 16 million inhabitants and almost 2 day sojourn in this region?

Russian Fedration, Continental Commonwealths, Penguania And Antarctica

Atokad wrote:Why is everyone so bent out of shape...this is a game right, or did I fall into an parallel universe?

*Claps* AMEN BROTHER!!

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQIDeg64hPetNBJys4EtQ9KTz33X2-fFznvxpAakLvZ4WCTKAtimw

For real tho idk what the Issue is. They are happy than im not useing the Russian Federation and its Arsenal and all the Horid things there

Jaslandia, Atokad

Atokad wrote:How do I claim me a piece of land on that sweet map befitting my 16 million inhabitants and almost 2 day sojourn in this region?

Right here my good sir

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=686028

Penguania And Antarctica

Atokad wrote:How do I claim me a piece of land on that sweet map befitting my 16 million inhabitants and almost 2 day sojourn in this region?

Message [nation=short]Baxten[/nation] if you're a citizen- which I think you are. Let him know which number you want.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Russian Fedration wrote:Right here my good sir

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=686028

So... can I move in with you, until I get my sh*t together? ahaha WTF, WE CAN'T CUSS ON HERE?!?! WHAT THE ACTUAL FOCK?

Russian Fedration, Jaslandia

Atokad wrote:So... can I move in with you, until I get my sh*t together? ahaha WTF, WE CAN'T CUSS ON HERE?!?! WHAT THE ACTUAL FOCK?

Nope we cant. Unless you learn the way around it.

Yea i dont mind im in Afghanistan.

Atokad wrote:Why is everyone so bent out of shape...this is a game right, or did I fall into an parallel universe?

Well, there are a number of factors that have lead to the current response, not least of which is that it [B]is[/B] a game.

No one has actually, seriously gotten furious over the guy's employment of Fictional Chemical Weapons, but IRL that sh!t is condemned every time by the international community. The CFN is an extension of that same attitude, while also enlarging it to deal with the creation of WMDs since things like Nukes are unilaterally banned.

It's RP, in a sense, that has more to do with the actual reactions of nations and their people, basically.

Now, I get my goat grabbed more by the justification of using weapons like that, since they're mostly inferior to their more legal alternatives, but that's just me since I'm the resident military nerd/Weapon Designer.

Russian Fedration wrote:*Claps* AMEN BROTHER!!

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQIDeg64hPetNBJys4EtQ9KTz33X2-fFznvxpAakLvZ4WCTKAtimw

For real tho idk what the Issue is. They are happy than im not useing the Russian Federation and its Arsenal and all the Horid things there

The issue is that -and again, keep in mind that this is RP of a sense- Chemical weapons are pointless and inhumane.

Russian Fedration wrote:I just want to point out i doubt that the Knowlage of me Having Chems would be public.

Depends on the excuse of the one reacting.

Arguably, if you're conducting open-air experiments, it's entirely possible for a nation with a satellite to see the actual chemical experiments -as well as know that you happen to be buying bulk loads of chemicals that could be made into such weapons -a flaw of this, I admit, is that depending on the Chemical there are a number of harmless alternative outcomes to the production process that could be the innocuous intent- and condemn based off of that.

If you're conducting Below-Earth experiments, or building a building for it, they would be able to see the construction, alongside observing the bulk buy of chemistry equipment as those goods are delivered to the site for storage and use.

There are other excuses to make such as spies, informants, and the simple knowledge that they were constructed but not destroyed from the time where Chemical weapons were allowed.

Russian Fedration

Kalaron wrote:

Oh yeah, and this is the only area where Kalaron GodMods because I would rather sell nothing at all than arm a nation that uses WMDs.

Kalaron wrote:Well, there are a number of factors that have lead to the current response, not least of which is that it [B]is[/B] a game.

No one has actually, seriously gotten furious over the guy's employment of Fictional Chemical Weapons, but IRL that sh!t is condemned every time by the international community. The CFN is an extension of that same attitude, while also enlarging it to deal with the creation of WMDs since things like Nukes are unilaterally banned.

It's RP, in a sense, that has more to do with the actual reactions of nations and their people, basically.

Now, I get my goat grabbed more by the justification of using weapons like that, since they're mostly inferior to their more legal alternatives, but that's just me since I'm the resident military nerd/Weapon Designer.

The issue is that -and again, keep in mind that this is RP of a sense- Chemical weapons are pointless and inhumane.

Depends on the excuse of the one reacting.

Arguably, if you're conducting open-air experiments, it's entirely possible for a nation with a satellite to see the actual chemical experiments -as well as know that you happen to be buying bulk loads of chemicals that could be made into such weapons -a flaw of this, I admit, is that depending on the Chemical there are a number of harmless alternative outcomes to the production process that could be the innocuous intent- and condemn based off of that.

If you're conducting Below-Earth experiments, or building a building for it, they would be able to see the construction, alongside observing the bulk buy of chemistry equipment as those goods are delivered to the site for storage and use.

There are other excuses to make such as spies, informants, and the simple knowledge that they were constructed but not destroyed from the time where Chemical weapons were allowed.

To the First part thats taking it a bit extream if your really extending that attitude to a RP.

Secondly Pointless and Inhuman are Matter of Options . I can Find people who from a NS point of view like my self can support them

And yea that makes snece the 3rd part i just dont think if i said that im useing them OOC that all of a sudden that OOC issiue and Admission can be Transfured over IC like wtf expalain that and who knows maybe i Inhearted them from someone

Russian Fedration wrote:To the First part thats taking it a bit extream if your really extending that attitude to a RP.

Secondly Pointless and Inhuman are Matter of Options . I can Find people who from a NS point of view like my self can support them

And yea that makes snece the 3rd part i just dont think if i said that im useing them OOC that all of a sudden that OOC issiue and Admission can be Transfured over IC like wtf expalain that and who knows maybe i Inhearted them from someone

When I get on the map you bet your sweet ass I'm keeping a very large, very impressive stash of nuclear and... ahem... unconventional weapons to complement a large standing army.

Russian Fedration

Fantrum wrote:When I get on the map you bet your sweet ass I'm keeping a very large, very impressive stash of nuclear and... ahem... unconventional weapons to complement a large standing army.

Can i get ANOTHER AMEN!!!!!!!!?????????? CAN I ??!!

Russian Fedration wrote:Can i get ANOTHER AMEN!!!!!!!!?????????? CAN I ??!!

I mean what are they gonna do? Can't nuke me since they don't have nukes, and I'd be able to hold off their armies long enough to deploy said nukes against them if need be, literally the only thing you achieve by complete nuclear nonproliferation is cucking yourself.

Russian Fedration, Atokad

Russian Fedration wrote:To the First part thats taking it a bit extream if your really extending that attitude to a RP.

Secondly Pointless and Inhuman are Matter of Options . I can Find people who from a NS point of view like my self can support them

And yea that makes snece the 3rd part i just dont think if i said that im useing them OOC that all of a sudden that OOC issiue and Admission can be Transfured over IC like wtf expalain that and who knows maybe i Inhearted them from someone

Eh, I'm not so certain.

People have every right to be outraged at chemical weapons, and I don't see many nations in RL saying that their employment is a good thing.

They are matters of opinion, and I can make and have made arguments on why their useless. Whether something gets my goat or not is inherently going to be based on my opinion on the subject matter, and how the facts have influenced it's creation.

Whether you can find people who agree with you on their usage isn't important, whether what their saying is based off of fact is. To point towards history, subjugating the populace of nations have been wholly inefficient in convincing those nations to make peace after the war is over, or to accept themselves as part of your nation. Examples of this trend include: Germany (WW1), All nations inducted into the USSR past 1944/All nations of the USSR except Russia, Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, most early empires, most of what Rome did when they tried to stamp out the jews.

It's simply an impossibility to convince the populace to like you once you've started slaughtering people with chemical weapons that just kinda obliviously kill everything.

Furthermore, the rise of organized terrorism on the World has lead to even further reluctance, as it's unlikely for any official cease-fire to stop the horde of angry parents, siblings, and other assorted rabel who feel only a black hatred for your nation.

Hearts and minds, people, hearts and minds.

Again, it depends on the one reacting to excuse their reaction.

I've already provided explanations.

Fantrum wrote:When I get on the map you bet your sweet ass I'm keeping a very large, very impressive stash of nuclear and... ahem... unconventional weapons to complement a large standing army.

No, you're not.

Nuclear Arms have been banned from both RP and the map. It can be YSL, sure, but any attempt to integrate it into any official RP would be subject to a warning or worse.

Russian Fedration

Fantrum wrote:I mean what are they gonna do? Can't nuke me since they don't have nukes, and I'd be able to hold off their armies long enough to deploy said nukes against them if need be, literally the only thing you achieve by complete nuclear nonproliferation is cucking yourself.

I LOVE YOU AND YOUR LOGIC!!!!!!!!!! Golly i love that . im gonna do that

Fantrum, Atokad

Fantrum wrote:I mean what are they gonna do? Can't nuke me since they don't have nukes, and I'd be able to hold off their armies long enough to deploy said nukes against them if need be, literally the only thing you achieve by complete nuclear nonproliferation is cucking yourself.

I think you are slightly misunderstanding. Its not that we cannot make nukes, and its not even that we do not have them. Its more along the lines of for RP purposes Nuclear weapons are for the most part banned from use. You can say you have a thousand nukes til your blue in the face, it will not matter if our RP mods decree otherwise.

Kal, who is one of our RP mods, can go ahead and correct me if I am wrong.

Kalaron wrote:Eh, I'm not so certain.

People have every right to be outraged at chemical weapons, and I don't see many nations in RL saying that their employment is a good thing.

They are matters of opinion, and I can make and have made arguments on why their useless. Whether something gets my goat or not is inherently going to be based on my opinion on the subject matter, and how the facts have influenced it's creation.

Whether you can find people who agree with you on their usage isn't important, whether what their saying is based off of fact is. To point towards history, subjugating the populace of nations have been wholly inefficient in convincing those nations to make peace after the war is over, or to accept themselves as part of your nation. Examples of this trend include: Germany (WW1), All nations inducted into the USSR past 1944/All nations of the USSR except Russia, Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, most early empires, most of what Rome did when they tried to stamp out the jews.

It's simply an impossibility to convince the populace to like you once you've started slaughtering people with chemical weapons that just kinda obliviously kill everything.

Furthermore, the rise of organized terrorism on the World has lead to even further reluctance, as it's unlikely for any official cease-fire to stop the horde of angry parents, siblings, and other assorted rabel who feel only a black hatred for your nation.

Hearts and minds, people, hearts and minds.

Again, it depends on the one reacting to excuse their reaction.

I've already provided explanations.

No, you're not.

Nuclear Arms have been banned from both RP and the map. It can be YSL, sure, but any attempt to integrate it into any official RP would be subject to a warning or worse.

Well that's just some godmoddin bullshît, what happened in the region that doesn't allow me to have nuclear arms? Are we tryin to say that they were never invented or something? Because if you give me a well thought out and deliberate reason why there aren't any nukes I'll accept it, otherwise I call horse shît and would like to appeal it to whoever consitutes a judge here.

Russian Fedration wrote:I LOVE YOU AND YOUR LOGIC!!!!!!!!!! Golly i love that . im gonna do that

We are gonna go far, you and I.

Russian Fedration, Atokad

Russian Fedration wrote:Can i get ANOTHER AMEN!!!!!!!!?????????? CAN I ??!!

https://goo.gl/0iwgLy

Russian Fedration

Kalaron wrote:

Again, it depends on the one reacting to excuse their reaction.

I've already provided explanations.

.

ok everthing is what ever yo me . I agree there deployment isent a good thing but weather there bad or what not in general is all option regaurdless of all the Stuff you throw at me

what im really confused with is what exactly dose that quote mean?

Fantrum wrote:When I get on the map you bet your sweet ass I'm keeping a very large, very impressive stash of nuclear and... ahem... unconventional weapons to complement a large standing army.

Just warning you, nuclear weapons are unilaterally banned as a general use style weapon in RPs. Here's why:

[spoiler]

Its essentially game breaking, it allows anyone with the weapons technology to simply use the, "You can't do that because I'll nuke you" tactic

The literal and logical implications would be absolutely insane, as the world would now be in a constant state of literal disarray. So, theoretically, with a constant nuclear stand-off (which has happened in almost every region I've played in), it makes playing your personal nation impossible from a logical perspective as your citizens scramble to flee the freaking planet.

Because there is very little restraint on how technologically advanced each nation says they are, because most of these factors are dictated by the player, it is simply too easy to use nuclear weapons to the extent of the real-world US and USSR, and if a global war did break out, and you know it would this is RP-land were talking about, congrats all civilization is dead. woo so fun -_-

In conjunction with the above point, it is also to easy to use Nuclear weapons as a fallback pillow to negate any bad thing happening to your nation.

[/spoiler]

Fantrum wrote:I mean what are they gonna do? Can't nuke me since they don't have nukes, and I'd be able to hold off their armies long enough to deploy said nukes against them if need be, literally the only thing you achieve by complete nuclear nonproliferation is cucking yourself.

To the total extent of my knowledge of activity within this region; I must clarify that we are not In Game banning nuclear weapons, we are OOC banning them from use because of gameplay issues and toxic player activity

PLEASE NOTE - ALL OF THE BELOW HAS A CHANCE OF BEING TOTALLY WRONG - THANK YOU FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING

However, there are several instances where their use can be playable, for example, we like to RP in this region from a collective-perspective, were two seperate RP's have real (fake) world consequences. As such, if you made a non-cannon, small player-base RP, you could actually go ham on whatever you wanted.

We may also end up with a similar usage in our upcoming 1900 Rp during the early stages a nuclear arms race at the end of our potential WWII event could lead to our past selves having a mock cold war.

Apart from these events, however, they cannot be used in canon rp gameplay

Continental Commonwealths

Atokad wrote:https://goo.gl/0iwgLy

IM KEEPING THAT! i need that on like a daily basis !

Atokad

Tserra wrote:I think you are slightly misunderstanding. Its not that we cannot make nukes, and its not even that we do not have them. Its more along the lines of for RP purposes Nuclear weapons are for the most part banned from use. You can say you have a thousand nukes til your blue in the face, it will not matter if our RP mods decree otherwise.

Kal, who is one of our RP mods, can go ahead and correct me if I am wrong.

Nah, you're pretty much on the nose.

Fantrum wrote:Well that's just some godmoddin bullshît, what happened in the region that doesn't allow me to have nuclear arms? Are we tryin to say that they were never invented or something? Because if you give me a well thought out and deliberate reason why there aren't any nukes I'll accept it, otherwise I call horse shît and would like to appeal it to whoever consitutes a judge here.

We are gonna go far, you and I.

I mean, I'm a mod for the RPs, so you can call bullsh!t all you want my dude, it just boils down to disagreeing with a rule the community agrees with.

Players don't need to think really, if they can just threaten to nuke anyone and everyone, and it just makes the whole RP stupid with regards to war and the like.

TBH, you can go to Bax -the original mod for this all- to complain if you want.

Tserra

Andromitus wrote:

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Its essentially game breaking, it allows anyone with the weapons technology to simply use the, "You can't do that because I'll nuke you" tactic

The literal and logical implications would be absolutely insane, as the world would now be in a constant state of literal disarray. So, theoretically, with a constant nuclear stand-off (which has happened in almost every region I've played in), it makes playing your personal nation impossible from a logical perspective as your citizens scramble to flee the freaking planet.

Because there is very little restraint on how technologically advanced each nation says they are, because most of these factors are dictated by the player, it is simply too easy to use nuclear weapons to the extent of the real-world US and USSR, and if a global war did break out, and you know it would this is RP-land were talking about, congrats all civilization is dead. woo so fun -_-

In conjunction with the above point, it is also to easy to use Nuclear weapons as a fallback pillow to negate any bad thing happening to your nation.

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Second point should go below the third

Fantrum wrote:Well that's just some godmoddin bullshît, what happened in the region that doesn't allow me to have nuclear arms? Are we tryin to say that they were never invented or something? Because if you give me a well thought out and deliberate reason why there aren't any nukes I'll accept it, otherwise I call horse shît and would like to appeal it to whoever consitutes a judge here.

We are gonna go far, you and I.

The Judge is Probs gonna be Bias just a BTW

Russian Fedration wrote:The Judge is Probs gonna be Bias just a BTW

I actually take offense to that statement. What makes you say that?

Russian Fedration

Kalaron wrote:Nah, you're pretty much on the nose.

I mean, I'm a mod for the RPs, so you can call bullsh!t all you want my dude, it just boils down to disagreeing with a rule the community agrees with.

Players don't need to think really, if they can just threaten to nuke anyone and everyone, and it just makes the whole RP stupid with regards to war and the like.

TBH, you can go to Bax -the original mod for this all- to complain if you want.

So... in such a case... is it canon that the region just never created nukes to begin with then? Because that seems the easiest explanation and really the best one.

Russian Fedration wrote:The Judge is Probs gonna be Bias just a BTW

I mean, they would have been around to see Perl drop some 48,000 tonns of highly enriched nuclear material into the sea, so I guess your biased might be my "Has seen the result of both choices".

Fantrum wrote:So... in such a case... is it canon that the region just never created nukes to begin with then? Because that seems the easiest explanation and really the best one.

There is no cannon explanation. Just no nukes in the RPs.

Kalaron wrote:I mean, they would have been around to see Perl drop some 48,000 tonns of highly enriched nuclear material into the sea, so I guess your biased might be my "Has seen the result of both choices".

There is no cannon explanation. Just no nukes in the RPs.

Oh sorry I mispoke.

It was 96,000 pounds.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=23275403

Tserra wrote:I actually take offense to that statement. What makes you say that?

Your the Judge? No offence was intended just im assumeing that you'd side with the People whove been here longer than some new squat is all im guessing. IDK could be a dumb thought on my end.

Kalaron wrote:I mean, they would have been around to see Perl drop some 48,000 tonns of highly enriched nuclear material into the sea, so I guess your biased might be my "Has seen the result of both choices".

There is no cannon explanation. Just no nukes in the RPs.

I really dont get it TBH

Fantrum wrote:So... in such a case... is it canon that the region just never created nukes to begin with then? Because that seems the easiest explanation and really the best one.

I am pretty sure that we have had the capability to create them, and I am pretty sure we have created them in the past. Its not an regional lore kind of thing. Its a Roleplaying Rule that you cannot use nuclear weapons in the RP. For an example if you had a legitimate reason to nuke a piece of your territory say, and mind you this is an extreme example, because you want to sell the glass it would create, I doubt anyone would have a problem with that.

But if Nation A decided to declare war on you, and you were all like, "Nah, I am the coolest most badass dude on the block, I will just nuke you to death before you can hurt me.", well that is not gonna be happening, you will not be using those nukes that day....or at all.

*not bothering to read all 81 new comments*

gg

Russian Fedration, Andromitus

Andromitus wrote:Just warning you, nuclear weapons are unilaterally banned as a general use style weapon in RPs. Here's why:

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Its essentially game breaking, it allows anyone with the weapons technology to simply use the, "You can't do that because I'll nuke you" tactic

The literal and logical implications would be absolutely insane, as the world would now be in a constant state of literal disarray. So, theoretically, with a constant nuclear stand-off (which has happened in almost every region I've played in), it makes playing your personal nation impossible from a logical perspective as your citizens scramble to flee the freaking planet.

Because there is very little restraint on how technologically advanced each nation says they are, because most of these factors are dictated by the player, it is simply too easy to use nuclear weapons to the extent of the real-world US and USSR, and if a global war did break out, and you know it would this is RP-land were talking about, congrats all civilization is dead. woo so fun -_-

In conjunction with the above point, it is also to easy to use Nuclear weapons as a fallback pillow to negate any bad thing happening to your nation.

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To the total extent of my knowledge of activity within this region; I must clarify that we are not In Game banning nuclear weapons, we are OOC banning them from use because of gameplay issues and toxic player activity

PLEASE NOTE - ALL OF THE BELOW HAS A CHANCE OF BEING TOTALLY WRONG - THANK YOU FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING

However, there are several instances where their use can be playable, for example, we like to RP in this region from a collective-perspective, were two seperate RP's have real (fake) world consequences. As such, if you made a non-cannon, small player-base RP, you could actually go ham on whatever you wanted.

We may also end up with a similar usage in our upcoming 1900 Rp during the early stages a nuclear arms race at the end of our potential WWII event could lead to our past selves having a mock cold war.

Apart from these events, however, they cannot be used in canon rp gameplay

That and mercs with nukes is a *ahem* BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD FVCKING IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!! That would literally be like walking up to ISIS handing them a an entire nuclear arsenal expecting them to not nuke every nation in the world because you paid them not to.

Russian Fedration, Andromitus

Russian Fedration wrote:I really dont get it TBH

You're attempting to say that the judge is bias, yes?

I'm showing a case -out of many at the time- where Nukes were used poorly. It literally led to each RP boiling down to

"Well I don't care, I'm gonna nuke you!"

"Fine then! I shoot your missiles out of the sky!"

*Queue 80,000 posts from everyone else saying Nukes were shot down*

"Our two nations reconciled in the five minutes after launch, all the nukes disable over the ocean :)"

It's like spice, in a perfect restaurant full of amazing chefs it can be a wonderful addition to the recipe. In most restaurants they throw it on like the world is ending and people stop coming.

Russian Fedration, Atokad

Yes I know that ISIS is a bunch of *expletives deleted* *bleep bleep bleep* suckers but the others I came up with was handing a nuclear arsenal to a group like fvcking Dyncorp and expecting them not to use them in every bloody conflict that they get in cause ooooh shiny explosions me Likey I'm gonna use it and win every battle.

Russian Fedration

Russian Fedration wrote:Your the Judge? No offence was intended just im assumeing that you'd side with the People whove been here longer than some new squat is all im guessing. IDK could be a dumb thought on my end.

Well no, I am not currently. But I was the founding Chief Justice of this region. I was the Chief Justice in our previous region. I was a Judge in our region before that. And I was once again Chief Justice in the region before that region. So needless to say, I am quite protective over my homies in the Judiciary. I will throw hands bruh. lol

But seriously, that is not the way we work here. Bias does not come into it. It does not matter if you were here for one day, or one hundred years, you would still be given the same consideration as everyone else. Honestly to my knowledge the Judiciary has never been called to mediate a matter of RP, but 2 of the 4 RP moderators, happen to be Judges on the Judiciary. So I would like to say its ran with the same no bias.

Russian Fedration

Tserra wrote:I am pretty sure that we have had the capability to create them, and I am pretty sure we have created them in the past. Its not an regional lore kind of thing. Its a Roleplaying Rule that you cannot use nuclear weapons in the RP. For an example if you had a legitimate reason to nuke a piece of your territory say, and mind you this is an extreme example, because you want to sell the glass it would create, I doubt anyone would have a problem with that.

But if Nation A decided to declare war on you, and you were all like, "Nah, I am the coolest most badass dude on the block, I will just nuke you to death before you can hurt me.", well that is not gonna be happening, you will not be using those nukes that day....or at all.

But how can you just live with a gigantic hole in your canon like that? It makes no sense to just say, "yeah we have them but no one ever uses them."

I may be the newcomer, and I'm willing to accept no nukes, but is it too much to ask for a little reason in the lore? Why would a psychotic dictatorship not use nukes to pacify someone before annexing them? Or vice versa in the defense?

Anyway I'll live without my nuclear candies...

Russian Fedration

Fantrum wrote:But how can you just live with a gigantic hole in your canon like that? It makes no sense to just say, "yeah we have them but no one ever uses them."

I may be the newcomer, and I'm willing to accept no nukes, but is it too much to ask for a little reason in the lore? Why would a psychotic dictatorship not use nukes to pacify someone before annexing them? Or vice versa in the defense?

Anyway I'll live without my nuclear candies...

Cause again mercs with nukes is a bad idea and especially rouge states like Tserra up there :-p

Modern Tech Helghan wrote:Cause again mercs with nukes is a bad idea and especially rouge states like Tserra up there :-p

Who said anything about mercs with nukes? Vel isn't here Helgan he can't sell them wantonly :)

Modern Tech Helghan wrote:Cause again mercs with nukes is a bad idea and especially rouge states like Tserra up there :-p

:: Looks from side to side :: Rogue? What makes me rogue? How am I rogue? I am genuinely curious how you came to that conclusion. lol

Jaslandia

Kalaron wrote:You're attempting to say that the judge is bias, yes?

I'm showing a case -out of many at the time- where Nukes were used poorly. It literally led to each RP boiling down to

"Well I don't care, I'm gonna nuke you!"

"Fine then! I shoot your missiles out of the sky!"

*Queue 80,000 posts from everyone else saying Nukes were shot down*

"Our two nations reconciled in the five minutes after launch, all the nukes disable over the ocean :)"

It's like spice, in a perfect restaurant full of amazing chefs it can be a wonderful addition to the recipe. In most restaurants they throw it on like the world is ending and people stop coming.

oh ...yea well that is a intresting sisuation than lol.

Yea thats huh. IDK if you did Reintroduce them place some rules or limits on them idk.

Tserra wrote:Well no, I am not currently. But I was the founding Chief Justice of this region. I was the Chief Justice in our previous region. I was a Judge in our region before that. And I was once again Chief Justice in the region before that region. So needless to say, I am quite protective over my homies in the Judiciary. I will throw hands bruh. lol

But seriously, that is not the way we work here. Bias does not come into it. It does not matter if you were here for one day, or one hundred years, you would still be given the same consideration as everyone else. Honestly to my knowledge the Judiciary has never been called to mediate a matter of RP, but 2 of the 4 RP moderators, happen to be Judges on the Judiciary. So I would like to say its ran with the same no bias.

Thro Hands lol there it is lol. Gonna Give out the Wet Works ?

i didnt know that so thats why i said that but like i said im new but its really good to see you say that . :)

Fantrum wrote:Who said anything about mercs with nukes? Vel isn't here Helgan he can't sell them wantonly :)

Your Vel..... And I'm a bloody Merc corp who took over Cyprus cause I needed a base of operations :-p

Tserra wrote::: Looks from side to side :: Rogue? What makes me rogue? How am I rogue? I am genuinely curious how you came to that conclusion. lol

We're mercs we know rouge when we see it.

Russian Fedration

Russian Fedration wrote:oh ...yea well that is a intresting sisuation than lol.

Yea thats huh. IDK if you did Reintroduce them place some rules or limits on them idk.

Thro Hands lol there it is lol. Gonna Give out the Wet Works ?

i didnt know that so thats why i said that but like i said im new but its really good to see you say that . :)

It's just easier and simpler to restrain them entirely. It also helps to prevent "I have nukes I don't need an army" syndrome.

Foreign affairs are much more interesting when the words "I have nukes" doesn't literally come down to the end all be all.

Russian Fedration, Modern Tech Helghan

Kalaron wrote:It's just easier and simpler to restrain them entirely. It also helps to prevent "I have nukes I don't need an army" syndrome.

Foreign affairs are much more interesting when the words "I have nukes" doesn't literally come down to the end all be all.

Better yet give the mercs nukes and every time someone gets ancy pay me. I'll make sure there's no more war :-p

*this is sarcasm by the way*

Russian Fedration

Fantrum wrote:But how can you just live with a gigantic hole in your canon like that? It makes no sense to just say, "yeah we have them but no one ever uses them."

I may be the newcomer, and I'm willing to accept no nukes, but is it too much to ask for a little reason in the lore? Why would a psychotic dictatorship not use nukes to pacify someone before annexing them? Or vice versa in the defense?

Anyway I'll live without my nuclear candies...

Thank you for your understanding; And I see your point, our history may as well have a cold-war point in time so to see them all go away is...unreasonable. However, please take in mind that:

1) this is a game

2) Your playing in a world were a corporate entity took over a battle-crushed and civil-war ravaged area in new England; ensalved the population; lobotomizes its prisoners to use as an under-class slave, and DOESN'T GET INVADED FROM EVERY NATION ON THIS PLANET AND PEOPLE ARE ACTIVELY TRADING WITH SAID PARTY

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Magnatronia, Modern Tech Helghan

Andromitus wrote:Thank you for your understanding; And I see your point, our history may as well have a cold-war point in time so to see them all go away is...unreasonable. However, please take in mind that:

1) this is a game

2) Your playing in a world were a corporate entity took over a battle-crushed and civil-war ravaged area in new England; ensalved the population; lobotomizes its prisoners to use as an under-class slave, and DOESN'T GET INVADED FROM EVERY NATION ON THIS PLANET AND PEOPLE ARE ACTIVELY TRADING WITH SAID PARTY

*ahem*

*literally has his hands in everyone's wars rather they like it or not cause money*

Andromitus

Fantrum wrote:But how can you just live with a gigantic hole in your canon like that? It makes no sense to just say, "yeah we have them but no one ever uses them."

I may be the newcomer, and I'm willing to accept no nukes, but is it too much to ask for a little reason in the lore? Why would a psychotic dictatorship not use nukes to pacify someone before annexing them? Or vice versa in the defense?

Anyway I'll live without my nuclear candies...

I can live with it because I have seen the alternative. You have no idea how unfun it is to intervene in a civilwar, with the intention of annexing a few ports. Getting ready to RP an occupation, mayhaps a battle or two. Internationl reactions. All that goodness, only for the other person to immediately go to nukes, thus ending the entire RP right there, because one of three things happen when someone goes nuclear:

1. Both sides are wiped off the map, preventing you from being able to play in the future.

2. The world is irrevocably affected, requiring a complete reboot of the map after ever single RP war.

3. Both sides get into a pissing contest without end. "I shot down your nukes!", "Nuh uh, I shot a bajillion at you.", "I have space nanite laser muffins. They destroyed everyone of them."....Ad Infinitum.

Russian Fedration, Jaslandia, Kalaron

Kalaron wrote:It's just easier and simpler to restrain them entirely. It also helps to prevent "I have nukes I don't need an army" syndrome.

Foreign affairs are much more interesting when the words "I have nukes" doesn't literally come down to the end all be all.

I will fully agree with that. In my OLD OLD OLD Region we RPed out Battles like Toy plastic army men RPed every little detail and battle and ask Hel we did it and it was fun .but throwing nukes in it kinda takes away the need for troops so i can fully respect that and i cant WAIT to rp with good ole infantry again.

Tserra wrote::: Looks from side to side :: Rogue? What makes me rogue? How am I rogue? I am genuinely curious how you came to that conclusion. lol

They said rouge not rogue, they're talking about your makeup hon.

Russian Fedration, Jaslandia, Modern Tech Helghan

Tserra wrote:I can live with it because I have seen the alternative. You have no idea how unfun it is to intervene in a civilwar, with the intention of annexing a few ports. Getting ready to RP an occupation, mayhaps a battle or two. Internationl reactions. All that goodness, only for the other person to immediately go to nukes, thus ending the entire RP right there, because one of three things happen when someone goes nuclear:

1. Both sides are wiped off the map, preventing you from being able to play in the future.

2. The world is irrevocably affected, requiring a complete reboot of the map after ever single RP war.

3. Both sides get into a pissing contest without end. "I shot down your nukes!", "Nuh uh, I shot a bajillion at you.", "I have space nanite laser muffins. They destroyed everyone of them."....Ad Infinitum.

THE NEW INQUISITION!!!!!!!!!!!

Russian Fedration, Andromitus

Modern Tech Helghan wrote:We're mercs we know rouge when we see it.

But...qualifiers. What evidence is that conclusion based on? In case you think so, I am not mad or offended by you thinking that, I am just struggling to see where you get the idea that Tserra is a rogue state from.

Modern Tech Helghan wrote:*ahem*

Sorry I don't know you all that well, the Andreallic baton instinctively falls towards [nation=short]magnatronia[/nation]

Jaslandia, Magnatronia

Tserra wrote:I can live with it because I have seen the alternative. You have no idea how unfun it is to intervene in a civilwar, with the intention of annexing a few ports. Getting ready to RP an occupation, mayhaps a battle or two. Internationl reactions. All that goodness, only for the other person to immediately go to nukes, thus ending the entire RP right there, because one of three things happen when someone goes nuclear:

1. Both sides are wiped off the map, preventing you from being able to play in the future.

2. The world is irrevocably affected, requiring a complete reboot of the map after ever single RP war.

3. Both sides get into a pissing contest without end. "I shot down your nukes!", "Nuh uh, I shot a bajillion at you.", "I have space nanite laser muffins. They destroyed everyone of them."....Ad Infinitum.

TBH, it's the most annoying mess I've ever seen.

I still get headaches.

Tserra

Russian Fedration wrote:I will fully agree with that. In my OLD OLD OLD Region we RPed out Battles like Toy plastic army men RPed every little detail and battle and ask Hel we did it and it was fun .but throwing nukes in it kinda takes away the need for troops so i can fully respect that and i cant WAIT to rp with good ole infantry again.

I can't wait to steamroll through a guys nation again that was always fun.

Russian Fedration

Modern Tech Helghan wrote:I can't wait to steamroll through a guys nation again that was always fun.

That was fun. im just kinda bummed i cant use all the RFs Tools

Modern Tech Helghan

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