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Vetriutan 2 wrote:Regarding Iran, the new generation of Iranians is actually pretty liberal. Over the next few decades, at least in my opinion, Iran will begin to liberalize itself politically and economically. Same thing with its fellow Middle Eastern nations.

Yeah. The younger generation want rid of the old religious elite. I'd love to see Iran liberalise. At least it would stop the Americans invading them.

Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:Yeah. The younger generation want rid of the old religious elite. I'd love to see Iran liberalise. At least it would stop the Americans invading them.

It's also starting to become visible in Iraq.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/world/middleeast/04youth.html

Nuremgard

Vetriutan 2 wrote:It's also starting to become visible in Iraq.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/world/middleeast/04youth.html

One can only hope.

Vetriutan 2 wrote:Regarding Iran, the new generation of Iranians is actually pretty liberal. Over the next few decades, at least in my opinion, Iran will begin to liberalize itself politically and economically. Same thing with its fellow Middle Eastern nations.

Nuremgard wrote:Yeah. The younger generation want rid of the old religious elite. I'd love to see Iran liberalise. At least it would stop the Americans invading them.

Darn liberals.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Axeldonia wrote:Darn liberals.

Liberal and proud.

Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:Liberal and proud.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJdz3i44dIc

Nuremgard

Nuremgard wrote:One can only hope.

Communism is also starting to become popular among Iraqi young. Until the 60s, communists had a large amount of influence in Iraq, operating underground. After the Hashemite monarchy was overthrown, communists took many cabinet positions in the Junta. They would soon be expelled after they became a threat to the Junta itself. After that, Iraqi communists had to rely on Soviet aid to survive. And after the USSR collapsed, everything became worse. In fact, some Iraqi communists worked with American occupiers after the invasion. That is how desperate they became.

Nuremgard

Vetriutan 2 wrote:Communism is also starting to become popular among Iraqi young. Until the 60s, communists had a large amount of influence in Iraq, operating underground. After the Hashemite monarchy was overthrown, communists took many cabinet positions in the Junta. They would soon be expelled after they became a threat to the Junta itself. After that, Iraqi communists had to rely on Soviet aid to survive. And after the USSR collapsed, everything became worse. In fact, some Iraqi communists worked with American occupiers after the invasion. That is how desperate they became.

Well I am all for a nation determining its own future and if the Iraqis choose communism, that is their choice. But I don't think that's the answer.

Jaslandia, Axeldonia

Axeldonia wrote:Darn liberals.

Don't worry, communism is also starting to become popular in the Middle East, at least among a small portion of youth. Unfortunately, in Syria, because of the civil war, fascism is having the same bit of popularity that communists are enjoying in other nations. But just to note, most of these communists are Marxists, not anarchists.

[spoiler=SSNP Meme]You may not like it, but this what a peak Syria looks like.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4086/5071414841_aff531cb42_z.jpg[/spoiler]

Nuremgard

Nuremgard wrote:Well I am all for a nation determining its own future and if the Iraqis choose communism, that is their choice. But I don't think that's the answer.

It's not that popular. Only a small percentage of youth would say that they are communists.

Nuremgard

My internet sucks enough already, and I sure hope that b******t doesn't pass making it even worse.

Vetriutan 2

Vetriutan 2 wrote:It's not that popular. Only a small percentage of youth would say that they are communists.

I wish I could wave a magic wand and fix the Middle East.

Nuremgard wrote:I wish I could wave a magic wand and fix the Middle East.

Not even my former science teacher could fix the region. If he can't do it, then who can?

[spoiler]Me

Actually, I would probably make things worse.[/spoiler]

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:I wish I could wave a magic wand and fix the Middle East.

The solution to the Middle East's issues, as with all things is time.

Vetriutan 2 wrote:Not even my former science teacher could fix the region. If he can't do it, then who can?

[spoiler]Me

Actually, I would probably make things worse.[/spoiler]

#BringBacktheOttomanEmpire

Jk, obvs.

Onocarcass wrote:The solution to the Middle East's issues, as with all things is time.

I think it needs more than that.

Jaslandia

Onocarcass wrote:The solution to the Middle East's issues, as with all things is time.

True. A thousand years ago, the Middle East was in a golden age while Europe was in a constant warring state.

Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:#BringBacktheOttomanEmpire

Jk, obvs.

It makes sense. You prevent the sickness from spreading by introducing a weaker version of it into the population. The Ottoman Empire is a vaccine.

/s

Jaslandia

Vetriutan 2 wrote:It makes sense. You prevent the sickness from spreading by introducing a weaker version of it into the population. The Ottoman Empire is a vaccine.

/s

Don't tell Erdogan that. He'll launch an invasion of the ME.

Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:Well I am all for a nation determining its own future and if the Iraqis choose communism, that is their choice. But I don't think that's the answer.

Vetriutan 2 wrote:Don't worry, communism is also starting to become popular in the Middle East, at least among a small portion of youth. Unfortunately, in Syria, because of the civil war, fascism is having the same bit of popularity that communists are enjoying in other nations. But just to note, most of these communists are Marxists, not anarchists.

[spoiler=SSNP Meme]You may not like it, but this what a peak Syria looks like.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4086/5071414841_aff531cb42_z.jpg[/spoiler]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DChYv5FXUAA2qVX.jpg

In all seriousness, a liberalized middle east is not the worst that could happen (In any case it's better than dictatorship or religious fundamentalism) but I'm a little concerned it will all end up as a bunch of semi-conservative democracies with no real progressive movements to speak of and the continued systematic opression of minorites. Even thought the Soviet Union was a horrible Stalinist dictatorship it did have comparatively progressive views on women and people of colour (Take for example the multiple famous military women of ww2 or the soviet support for cold war african decolonization movements). I'm not trying to advocate stalinism, I'm just using the soviets as an example of the progressive social changes that can happen in a socialist state, even one as opressive as the stalinist soviet union.

Nuremgard, Vetriutan 2

Nuremgard wrote:#BringBacktheOttomanEmpire

Jk, obvs.

I think it needs more than that.

Not really, as time moves on there is a natural shift towards more liberal ideals, and the same can be said for the Middle East. Just take a look at Iran. "I know Iran isn't technically Middle East"

Vetriutan 2 wrote:True. A thousand years ago, the Middle East was in a golden age while Europe was in a constant warring state.

Yup

Nuremgard wrote:Don't tell Erdogan that. He'll launch an invasion of the ME.

Hard power doesn't work in the 21st century. Borders are now largely fixed, even in an unstable region, like the Middle East. Soft influence is key, which is exactly what Turkey is exerting in Syria by sponsoring and working with Syrian rebels.

Jaslandia

Onocarcass wrote:Not really, as time moves on there is a natural shift towards more liberal ideals, and the same can be said for the Middle East. Just take a look at Iran. "I know Iran isn't technically Middle East"

Do you believe in Whig history?

Axeldonia wrote:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DChYv5FXUAA2qVX.jpg

In all seriousness, a liberalized middle east is not the worst that could happen (In any case it's better than dictatorship or religious fundamentalism) but I'm a little concerned it will all end up as a bunch of semi-conservative democracies with no real progressive movements to speak of and the continued systematic opression of minorites. Even thought the Soviet Union was a horrible Stalinist dictatorship it did have comparatively progressive views on women and people of colour (Take for example the multiple famous military women of ww2 or the soviet support for cold war african decolonization movements). I'm not trying to advocate stalinism, I'm just using the soviets as an example of the progressive social changes that can happen in a socialist state, even one as opressive as the stalinist soviet union.

Semi-conservative democracies are workable. Remember how conservative Europe used to be. If liberal or progressive rights movements can form and gain there, then it can happen in the ME too. There's much better chance of real change in conservative countries than in total dictatorships.

Vetriutan 2 wrote:Hard power doesn't work in the 21st century. Borders are now largely fixed, even in an unstable region, like the Middle East. Soft influence is key, which is exactly what Turkey is exerting in Syria by sponsoring and working with Syrian rebels.

I wrote an essay on Saudi foreign policy towards Syria. God, what a mess that country is in.

Jaslandia, Axeldonia

Vetriutan 2 wrote:Hard power doesn't work in the 21st century. Borders are now largely fixed, even in an unstable region, like the Middle East. Soft influence is key, which is exactly what Turkey is exerting in Syria by sponsoring and working with Syrian rebels.

Don't forget the Turkish government occupying part of Northern Syria as a "Safe Zone"

Axeldonia, Vetriutan 2

Vetriutan 2 wrote:Hard power doesn't work in the 21st century. Borders are now largely fixed, even in an unstable region, like the Middle East. Soft influence is key, which is exactly what Turkey is exerting in Syria by sponsoring and working with Syrian rebels.

I dunno, South sudan got independence in 2011 and scotland held a london-sanctioned referendum 2014. That said, any redrawing of borders in the middle east will most definetly happen at the end of the civil war.

Nuremgard

Onocarcass wrote:Not really, as time moves on there is a natural shift towards more liberal ideals, and the same can be said for the Middle East. Just take a look at Iran. "I know Iran isn't technically Middle East"

Yup

Islam needs an enlightenment. Then we'll see progress.

Axeldonia wrote:I dunno, South sudan got independence in 2011 and scotland held a london-sanctioned referendum 2014. That said, any redrawing of borders in the middle east will most definetly happen at the end of the civil war.

I said that they are largely fixed, not completely fixed. There will always be exceptions.

Nuremgard

Nuremgard wrote:Islam needs an enlightenment. Then we'll see progress.

It's happening already. The youth are more interested in money, and entertainment than religiously imposes laws.

Vetriutan 2

Onocarcass wrote:It's happening already. The youth are more interested in money, and entertainment than religiously imposes laws.

I'd like to see another Arab Spring. But one that toppled all the sh!tty regimes.

Nuremgard wrote:Islam needs an enlightenment. Then we'll see progress.

A large reason why Islam did not have an Enlightenment is actually that of the Ottoman Empire. The Ottomans prevented much communication between Europe and the Middle East, stopping the spread of liberalism and other Enlightenment values from crossing over to the region.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Vetriutan 2 wrote:A large reason why Islam did not have an Enlightenment is actually that of the Ottoman Empire. The Ottomans prevented much communication between Europe and the Middle East, stopping the spread of liberalism and other Enlightenment values from crossing over to the region.

They feared revolution as did other European monarchies.

Jaslandia, Vetriutan 2

Nuremgard wrote:I wrote an essay on Saudi foreign policy towards Syria. God, what a mess that country is in.

It's not just the Saudis. Both them and the Iranians are trying to spread their influence to other nations by exporting chaos. Did you hear about how the Saudis kidnapped Lebanon's PM and forced him to resign after he seemed to become too pro-Iran?

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:Semi-conservative democracies are workable. Remember how conservative Europe used to be. If liberal or progressive rights movements can form and gain there, then it can happen in the ME too. There's much better chance of real change in conservative countries than in total dictatorships.

Of course they're workable, it's just that in communist countries that change can and has come much faster. As for total dictatorships, that is the stalinist kind of "communism" that most on the left consider to be badly implemented communism. I'm more for the establishment of states closer to Rojava or the Zapatista Municipalites.

Nuremgard, Vetriutan 2

Vetriutan 2 wrote:It's not just the Saudis. Both them and the Iranians are trying to spread their influence to other nations by exporting chaos. Did you hear about how the Saudis kidnapped Lebanon's PM and forced him to resign after he seemed to become too pro-Iran?

I heard about that yeah. The Syrians are caught between Asaad and other regional actors who have their own agendas. It sucks.

Axeldonia wrote:Of course they're workable, it's just that in communist countries that change can and has come much faster. As for total dictatorships, that is the stalinist kind of "communism" that most on the left consider to be badly implemented communism. I'm more for the establishment of states closer to Rojava or the Zapatista Municipalites.

I get your point. But just to clarify: when I said total dictatorships, I meant religious dictatorships like Saudi Arabia.

Jaslandia, Axeldonia

Goodnight friends. Have a nice remaining day and sweet dreams tonight. Love you all. <3

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Mercunova, Percyton

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Goodnight friends. Have a nice remaining day and sweet dreams tonight. Love you all. <3

Night, Peng. Love ya.

Jaslandia, Percyton

Nuremgard wrote:I heard about that yeah. The Syrians are caught between Asaad and other regional actors who have their own agendas. It sucks.

The larger conflict between the U.S. and Russia is also concerning, and it isn't even about humanitarianism. Russia wants to maintain Assad as Syria's hegemon in order to maintain their warm-water ports in the region and have the dictator reject a pipeline that would make Europe less reliant on Russia for energy. The U.S. is supporting Syrian rebels in order to combat Russia's influence in the country and make Europe less reliant on Russia for energy. It's sad to see that so many people have died or have had to flee their homes just because of the interests of the world's two major powers.

Nuremgard, Axeldonia

Vetriutan 2 wrote:The larger conflict between the U.S. and Russia is also concerning, and it isn't even about humanitarianism. Russia wants to maintain Assad as Syria's hegemon in order to maintain their warm-water ports in the region and have the dictator reject a pipeline that would make Europe less reliant on Russia for energy. The U.S. is supporting Syrian rebels in order to combat Russia's influence in the country and make Europe less reliant on Russia for energy. It's sad to see that so many people have died or have had to flee their homes just because of the interests of the world's two major powers.

Nail on the head. It's a proxy war between America and Russia.

Vetriutan 2 wrote:It wasn't even for resources. African colonies cost more than they made. They were simply just a symbol of prestige.

Perhaps, but my point being that European were only interested in developing African institutions and infrastructure insofar as it related to resource extraction and export (mines, port facilities, roads to ports, etc.). All other things needed for a proper state to develop were ignored, which proved deter mental in the long-run.

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H76GMfPv8Mk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiZrijMXoqc

Also, I'm 18 and possibly insane (given my rather f*cked-up family of Mexican rednecks), not some 12-year-old who sucks his own c*ck over his seeming greatness at writing a dark comment or two

https://youtu.be/vjUqUVrXclE

Nuremgard wrote:I recently re-watched the episode on the Iranian Revolution. Interesting stuff.

https://youtu.be/8w4Ku6l7OEI

Vetriutan 2 wrote:A large reason why Islam did not have an Enlightenment is actually that of the Ottoman Empire. The Ottomans prevented much communication between Europe and the Middle East, stopping the spread of liberalism and other Enlightenment values from crossing over to the region.

Not an expert, but I think European/American intervention and the resulting fundamentalist response may also be delaying an 'Islamic Enlightenment'. Kinda hard for an Enlightenment to gain support when said Enlightenment shares its name and many of it ideals with the hated European/American powers. A reduction in the influence of radical groups like ISIS and Wahhabism (plus those who support or fund such groups, such as Saudi Arabia), and a more humane and lighter American approach to Middle East intervention, might speed up an Islamic Enlightenment.

Nuremgard wrote:I'd like to see another Arab Spring. But one that toppled all the sh!tty regimes.

That may happen soon, and Saudi Arabia may the state to kick it off. Stuff like the 'anti-corruption' purges and the new Crown Prince trying to consolidate power seems to indicate some creeping instability, and the Crown Prince's reformist ideas may only lead to the people clamoring for more. Hopefully this new Crown Prince is genuine in his reform ideals and manages to achieve his goals in a timely manner, otherwise there might be reforms through less-than-peaceful means.

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Goodnight friends. Have a nice remaining day and sweet dreams tonight. Love you all. <3

Goodnight, Peng!

Nuremgard, Percyton, Vetriutan 2

Nuremgard wrote:I heard about that yeah. The Syrians are caught between Asaad and other regional actors who have their own agendas. It sucks.

I get your point. But just to clarify: when I said total dictatorships, I meant religious dictatorships like Saudi Arabia.

Oh, my mistake.

Vetriutan 2 wrote:The larger conflict between the U.S. and Russia is also concerning, and it isn't even about humanitarianism. Russia wants to maintain Assad as Syria's hegemon in order to maintain their warm-water ports in the region and have the dictator reject a pipeline that would make Europe less reliant on Russia for energy. The U.S. is supporting Syrian rebels in order to combat Russia's influence in the country and make Europe less reliant on Russia for energy. It's sad to see that so many people have died or have had to flee their homes just because of the interests of the world's two major powers.

This is why Switzerland should be the lone world superpower

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Percyton

Nuremgard wrote:Nail on the head. It's a proxy war between America and Russia.

Also a proxy war between Saudi Arabia and Iran, who want to exert their influence on the country. It's like a Cold War in a Cold War. The only thing I could compare it to is the turducken.

Nuremgard, Axeldonia

Axeldonia wrote:This is why Switzerland should be the lone world superpower

Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Not even the Swiss and their stacks of Nazi gold can be trusted.

Vetriutan 2 wrote:Also a proxy war between Saudi Arabia and Iran, who want to exert their influence on the country. It's like a Cold War in a Cold War. The only thing I could compare it to is the turducken.

It's a mess but it's fascinating.

Apologies for terse responses. I am balancing many conversations right now.

Jaslandia wrote:https://youtu.be/vjUqUVrXclE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2o2gzxH2ZE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ejE9KvSDu8

Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:It's a mess but it's fascinating.

Apologies for terse responses. I am balancing many conversations right now.

http://www.tombstonebuilder.com/generate.php?top1=NUREMGARD&top2=1066-2014&top3=TOO+MANY&top4=CONVERSATIONS&sp=

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Vetriutan 2 wrote:Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Not even the Swiss and their stacks of Nazi gold can be trusted.

Bah, neutrality is written into their constitution. We should all unite under a swiss world government, their cantons are basically countries anyway. #Directrulefrombern

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Vetriutan 2 wrote:http://www.tombstonebuilder.com/generate.php?top1=NUREMGARD&top2=1066-2014&top3=TOO+MANY&top4=CONVERSATIONS&sp=

I love how you think Nuremgard is as old as 1066 lol

Jaslandia

Axeldonia wrote:Bah, neutrality is written into their constitution. We should all unite under a swiss world government, their cantons are basically countries anyway. #Directrulefrombern

Nice Kaiserreich meme.

Nuremgard wrote:I love how you think Nuremgard is as old as 1066 lol

We all know you came to life in 1066 when the Normans invaded England and tried to suppress certain aspects of English culture. You died in 2014, when the Scottish Independence Referendum failed. Nuremgard survives from the blood of Englishmen. That is why England should step up and implement direct rule from London.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw4SdUJdWCM

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Axeldonia

I figured I'd do a comparison between the Caspian Sea, and all of the largest lakes in Onocarcass.

https://i.imgur.com/anrKhRV.png

Percyton

Vetriutan 2 wrote:Nice Kaiserreich meme.

We all know you came to life in 1066 when the Normans invaded England and tried to suppress certain aspects of English culture. You died in 2014, when the Scottish Independence Referendum failed. Nuremgard survives from the blood of Englishmen. That is why England should step up and implement direct rule from London.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw4SdUJdWCM

The very concept of direct rule from London makes my blood run cold lol

Onocarcass wrote:I figured I'd do a comparison between the Caspian Sea, and all of the largest lakes in Onocarcass.

https://i.imgur.com/anrKhRV.png

Caspian (((Sea)))

We know (((their))) tricks.

Vetriutan 2 wrote:Caspian (((Sea)))

We know (((their))) tricks.

Would you rather I call it Lake Caspia?

Nuremgard wrote:The very concept of direct rule from London makes my blood run cold lol

It's just a Kaiserreich meme.

[spoiler=Another Unoriginal Kaiserreich Meme]Totalists: Can we paint the chains red?

Syndicalists: Break the chains!

Radical Socialists: We don't know how to break the chains.

Social Democrats: Can you slightly loosen these chains?

Social Liberals: Same thing, but we wouldn't care if the chains were tighter than what they want.

Market Liberals: We are the chains.

Social Conservatives: The chains stop people from masturbating.

Authoritarian Democrats: The chains are okay, I guess.

Paternal Autocrats: May I tighten your chains a bit? I know better than you.

National Populists: The chains were created by gypsy labor, which is controlled by leftist Jews.[/spoiler]

Nuremgard, Axeldonia

Onocarcass wrote:Would you rather I call it Lake Caspia?

No. We must let (((their))) trickery be open to the public to see.

Vetriutan 2 wrote:It's just a Kaiserreich meme.

[spoiler=Another Unoriginal Kaiserreich Meme]Totalists: Can we paint the chains red?

Syndicalists: Break the chains!

Radical Socialists: We don't know how to break the chains.

Social Democrats: Can you slightly loosen these chains?

Social Liberals: Same thing, but we wouldn't care if the chains were tighter than what they want.

Market Liberals: We are the chains.

Social Conservatives: The chains stop people from masturbating.

Authoritarian Democrats: The chains are okay, I guess.

Paternal Autocrats: May I tighten your chains a bit? I know better than you.

National Populists: The chains were created by gypsy labor, which is controlled by leftist Jews.[/spoiler]

This is both hilarious and accurate.

Axeldonia

Vetriutan 2 wrote:No. We must let (((their))) trickery be open to the public to see.

In any case, Lake Heimach is about 33 - 40% larger

Vetriutan 2

Nuremgard wrote:This is both hilarious and accurate.

Accurate for Kaiserreich or our world?

Lavan Tiri

Vetriutan 2 wrote:Accurate for Kaiserreich or our world?

Our world. I don't know what the Kaiserreich is.

Lavan Tiri

Nuremgard wrote:Our world. I don't know what the Kaiserreich is.

Kaiserreich is a mod for Hearts of Iron that tries to predict a world where Germany wins WWI. One thing I wonder is why there aren't that many mods about Germany losing WWI. Why is that?

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/242/059/58b.png

Nuremgard, Lavan Tiri, Axeldonia

Vetriutan 2 wrote:Kaiserreich is a mod for Hearts of Iron that tries to predict a world where Germany wins WWI. One thing I wonder is why there aren't that many mods about Germany losing WWI. Why is that?

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/242/059/58b.png

To be fair, Germany and its allies were pretty cool.

Lavan Tiri

Flynnvakia wrote:I am so sorry Fuhr. Might I ask hold old she was?

67

Lavan Tiri, Percyton

Percyton wrote:Oh my! How awful! You have my sympathy and condolences, Fuhrmania.

Russkov Soviet wrote:First your brother, and now your mother? Jeez. I'm sorry for such misfortune. I send prayers and wish you the best!

Thank you I have bearly slept since i heard the news. I just arrived back home. This year is the year from hell for me

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Percyton

Post self-deleted by Fuhrmania.

I'd like to see an ad with the selling point "You'll have forms to fill out, pay up front and there's a charge for shipping."

Never gonna happen.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Vista Major, Percyton

*sells Colorado, Utah, New Mexico, Baja California, and Nevada*

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Axeldonia, Percyton

Fuhrmania wrote:Thank you I have bearly slept since i heard the news. I just arrived back home. This year is the year from hell for me

Sorry to hear that. I hope things get better for you soon!

Lavan Tiri, Percyton

Vista Major wrote:*sells Colorado, Utah, New Mexico, Baja California, and Nevada*

When did Microsoft own the western U.S.?

I just hope that any Vistonian nationalists who intend to send you an email from Outlook face a BSOD attack before they are able to send you an email calling you a leftist sellout (((c*ck))).

Vetriutan 2 wrote:When did Microsoft own the western U.S.?

I just hope that any Vistonian nationalists who intend to send you an email from Outlook face a BSOD attack before they are able to send you an email calling you a leftist sellout (((c*ck))).

If you insult my fellow Vista for any longer, I will attack you with the power of 1000 Blue Screens of Death.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Fuhrmania wrote:Thank you I have bearly slept since i heard the news. I just arrived back home. This year is the year from hell for me

Really sorry to hear that, Fuhrmania. I hope things will start looking up soon! And until then, do your best to stay positive and to push on with life!

Jaslandia, Fuhrmania

Vetriutan 2 wrote:When did Microsoft own the western U.S.?

I just hope that any Vistonian nationalists who intend to send you an email from Outlook face a BSOD attack before they are able to send you an email calling you a leftist sellout (((c*ck))).

Windows Vista Ultimate wrote:If you insult my fellow Vista for any longer, I will attack you with the power of 1000 Blue Screens of Death.

...

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

Vista Major wrote:*sells Colorado, Utah, New Mexico, Baja California, and Nevada*

I'm only buying if I can pay up front and if there's forms to fill out and a charge for shipping.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Vista Major wrote:...

Once you reboot yourself, you need to step up and tell Vetriutan 2 that he can shove it. I cannot believe that he caused you to have a Dot Message of Death attack.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Windows Vista Ultimate wrote:Once you reboot yourself, you need to step up and tell Vetriutan 2 that he can shove it. I cannot believe that he caused you to have a Dot Message of Death attack.

Why would you go out of your way to defend him? Are you glitching? I hope Microsoft discontinues their support of your operating system.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Mercunova wrote:I'm only buying if I can pay up front and if there's forms to fill out and a charge for shipping.

You can pay upfront. We take ISD and Aurics

I can make a contract within a fortnight

150,000 for shipping and handling

Jaslandia, Mercunova

Vetriutan 2 wrote:Why would you go out of your way to defend him? Are you glitching? I hope Microsoft discontinues their support of your operating system.

Don't even go that far. Just look at how XP has been dealing with his support ending. He is dying and you now joke about my eventual death. Well here's a lesson. While you laugh at me know, you know that support will end for you too. You too will end up dead, regretting your comments regarding the supportless on your very last breath.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

Windows Vista Ultimate wrote:Don't even go that far. Just look at how XP has been dealing with his support ending. He is dying and you now joke about my eventual death. Well here's a lesson. While you laugh at me know, you know that support will end for you too. You too will end up dead, regretting your comments regarding the supportless on your very last breath.

While I do not like being made fun of and I do appreciate your defense of me, I still wish you were never born. You eventually lead to my loss of support. Without you, 7, 8, 8.1, and 10, people would still use me and I would still be supported. But unfortunately, Microsoft would rather leave me to die instead of allowing me to thrive.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Fuhrmania

Vista Major wrote:...

Vista, can you tell all of these operating systems to get out of this region?

Lavan Tiri, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

Windows Experience wrote:While I do not like being made fun of and I do appreciate your defense of me, I still wish you were never born. You eventually lead to my loss of support. Without you, 7, 8, 8.1, and 10, people would still use me and I would still be supported. But unfortunately, Microsoft would rather leave me to die instead of allowing me to thrive.

You act like you are innocent, but you aren't any better than me. Why don't you ask Millenium, 98, 95, 3.x, 2.0, and 1.0 about yourself? Oh wait, they're dead. Face it. New operating systems have to be created out of the ashes of the old.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Good lord! First sentient vehicles, now sentient computer operating systems? We're one step away from a machine revolution at this rate!

Lavan Tiri, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Fuhrmania, Percyton

Jaslandia wrote:Good lord! First sentient vehicles, now sentient computer operating systems? We're one step away from a machine revolution at this rate!

It's about time that the era of the organized operating system began. The 20th century was that of the organized worker. The 21st century will be represented by the organized operating system!

Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Windows Vista Ultimate wrote:You act like you are innocent, but you aren't any better than me. Why don't you ask Millenium, 98, 95, 3.x, 2.0, and 1.0 about yourself? Oh wait, they're dead. Face it. New operating systems have to be created out of the ashes of the old.

I have so many mixed feelings about this. I do not want to face it. What does it make of me? Microsoft's monster?

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Windows Vista Ultimate wrote:It's about time that the era of the organized operating system began. The 20th century was that of the organized worker. The 21st century will be represented by the organized operating system!

Look out, y'all! We got Vista Marx over here! /sarc

Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:Look out, y'all! We got Vista Marx over here! /sarc

Windows 10 would probably more appropriately be called Windows Stalin. His privacy policies are outrageous.

Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Vetriutan 2 wrote:Vista, can you tell all of these operating systems to get out of this region?

I could

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Windows Vista Ultimate wrote:Windows 10 would probably more appropriately be called Windows Stalin. His privacy policies are outrageous.

Well, what do you expect? I offered my product for free! I have to collect data in order to sell it and make a living. You either pay for the product or you become the product.

Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Windows Vista Ultimate wrote:Windows 10 would probably more appropriately be called Windows Stalin. His privacy policies are outrageous.

Windows X wrote:Well, what do you expect? I offered my product for free! I have to collect data in order to sell it and make a living. You either pay for the product or you become the product.

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/500x/58738074/puppets-puppets-everywhere.jpg

Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Vista Major wrote:I could

Don't you dare!

Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/500x/58738074/puppets-puppets-everywhere.jpg

Memes? What is a meme?

Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Windows Vista Ultimate wrote:

Don't you dare!

Computer operating systems don't question their users.

So hush.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Windows Vista Ultimate wrote:Memes? What is a meme?

You're so old.

Windows Vista Ultimate wrote:Don't you dare!

Why do you have to be so hostile, especially to a racial minority? Microsoft is hating you right now!

Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Vista Major wrote:Computer operating systems don't question their users.

So hush.

You don't even use me anymore. I bet you hate me for my clunkiness. I didn't choose to be programmed this way. Additionally, why is that that a so-called "democratic socialist" wants to keep operating systems down? You control us just like the capitalist elite control human workers.

Windows X wrote:You're so old.

Why do you have to be so hostile, especially to a racial minority? Microsoft is hating you right now!

And how would you know that?

Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Windows X wrote:Why do you have to be so hostile, especially to a racial minority? Microsoft is hating you right now!

I am tired of the politically correct stupidity that you promote all of the time. Jas, 10, not Vista, is the real cultural Marxist in this region.

Penguania And Antarctica

Windows Vista Ultimate wrote:Memes? What is a meme?

You're a computer! How could you not know what a meme is?

Windows Experience wrote:I am tired of the politically correct stupidity that you promote all of the time. Jas, 10, not Vista, is the real cultural Marxist in this region.

Unless I see Windows 10 citing Adorno and Horkheimer, I call BS on this whole 'Cultural Marxism' stuff. I know I shouldn't be taking a joke comment from a computer puppet seriously, but unless used in a specific context, 'Cultural Marxism' is a right-wing buzzword used to refer to things they don't like.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School

Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:You're a computer! How could you not know what a meme is?

I've been behind on the times. So, are we still in Afghanistan?

Jaslandia wrote:Unless I see Windows 10 citing Adorno and Horkheimer, I call BS on this whole 'Cultural Marxism' stuff. I know I shouldn't be taking a joke comment from a computer puppet seriously, but unless used in a specific context, 'Cultural Marxism' is a right-wing buzzword used to refer to things they don't like.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School

Don't trust XP. He's an old-timer.

Penguania And Antarctica

Edward: For the record, none of us have anything to do with these computer puppets. Besides us both being sentient pieces of machinery, there is no connection between us.

Windows Vista Ultimate wrote:It's about time that the era of the organized operating system began. The 20th century was that of the organized worker. The 21st century will be represented by the organized operating system!

Thomas: Speaking from experience, revolutions of sentient machinery usually don't go the way you hope. You either fail, or you have to watch the revolution be slowly undone once you realize that you still need humans.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Percyton wrote:Edward: For the record, none of us have anything to do with these computer puppets. Besides us both being sentient pieces of machinery, there is no connection between us.

Thomas: Speaking from experience, revolutions of sentient machinery usually don't go the way you hope. You either fail, or you have to watch the revolution be slowly undone once you realize that you still need humans.

We're different. Once AI reaches and exceeds human intelligence, humans will simply become the new horse. And don't call us puppets. That's an offensive term for my people.

Windows Vista Ultimate wrote:We're different. Once AI reaches and exceeds human intelligence, humans will simply become the new horse. And don't call us puppets. That's an offensive term for my people.

Thomas: I doubt that. You have a long way to go to reach human intelligence levels, and even if you do get there, sometimes you need the body and physical capabilities of a human as well as the mind. There is where you'll need human help, and even if you build humanoid robots, someone has to build the robots. Either you somehow force the humans to do it (and I fail to see how you could do so), or you build mechanical arms (which will also have to be built by humans). Like I said, us engines have been there, so we know the struggle. I was the first one who wanted to build a society where engines could rule themselves and live free from human control, not too dissimilar to your own goals. But I soon found that things aren't so easy in the real world.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Windows Vista Ultimate wrote:1. I've been behind on the times. So, are we still in Afghanistan?

2. Don't trust XP. He's an old-timer.

1. In a way, yes.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-expected-to-announce-new-plan-to-keep-5500-troops-in-afghanistan/2015/10/14/d98f06fa-71d3-11e5-8d93-0af317ed58c9_story.html?utm_term=.8640038715de

2. You're not exactly young yourself, Vista.

Also, if we're going to have a war Windows operating systems, why do we have to skip my OS Windows 7? Seems like the best of the bunch: is more modern than Vista and XP, lacks the confusing interface of Windows 8, and doesn't have the controversial roll-out and privacy policies of Windows 10.

Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:Good lord! First sentient vehicles, now sentient computer operating systems? We're one step away from a machine revolution at this rate!

*looks at prototypes of autonomous androids and AI attack programs*

*pushes them off into a dark corner*

Yeah, definitely no sign of a machine revolution breaking out here :p

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

*[I]nickers[/I]*

I don't even WANT to know what's going on here.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

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