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Region: The Confederacy of Free Nations
If the founder account is a non-governmental position, why did [nation=short]Baxten[/nation] claim that [nation=short]Tserra[/nation] is a member of the executive because he controls the founder account?
So there are no written restrictions or limitations on their power? Smart.
Then why is there only an application for citizenship, not residency and why does the citizenship roster say there are 85 residents?
On the contrary, I'm doing you all a huge service by pointing out these discrepancies in your system. You are welcome.
Just sent my request for citizenship!!
:)
Vista Major, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica
Because Baxten and Tserra are citizens entitled to hold other positions. The Founder itself is not a government position.
On the contrary, the Law Code helps provide for our Founder situation
The application allows you to choose between being a citizen or a resident. Citizenship and residency is also determined by one's situation. Furthermore, the term "resident" is used as an umbrella term for residents and citizens.
The last time someone pointed out discrepancies in our system, they took over and nearly started war. We all had to pack our bags and flee
So excuse me if I'm hesitant to believe you there
Congrats!
Penguania And Antarctica, Solla Ultima
I think I see the problem here. I thought you meant if the Founder had executive powers, which he does. However, he is not officially a part of the executive branch.
Writing limitations does nothing. The Founder can do whatever whenever. It's an honesty system we have to live off of. It's the only thing we can do.
Because the residents of past regions were tallied here. The residency app is the same, but you'd just have to fill out different answers.
OK, buddy :)
Then why did Baxten say the below?
Because it sure sounds like one of your elder statesmen is claiming the Founder is an executive agency.
This is not true. The Montaris, NGA, and old CFN applications did. The new CFN application does not.
This still doesn't explain why there are 85 residents listed on the citizenship roster. Because it sure looks like everyone in the region is a resident, regardless of the law code.
No, that was Red Riders, and he just left in a huff. Alex never pointed out discrepancies, he just went power crazy. The reason you keep fleeing is because you keep neglecting to put adequate protections on the founder's power and putting "trustworthy" (ha) people in office. If you can't put down some solid Constitutional rules for control over the founder account, it will happen here, too.
Seems you are well informed about our history and knowing Ruclax's other name. May I ask you how you know all this. Where you among us with another nation ?
Some place a striking lack of value on their Fridays and Saturdays.
I do not know what that means.
Duh.
I know, but I cant resist.
That was my mistake in misinterpretation, also the fact that I was beyond tired (I typed it all at 1ish.
You can't put checks on the Founder. NS isn't built like that
Now, can I ask you a legitimate question. Why are you here? If you wanna make a change, you need to do a better job at communicating. All you're doing is being an ass right now. It really doesnt take a genius to see that, and I'm sure you're fully aware, but there's no reason to waste your time here. If you wanna be a troll, go on a Minecraft forum or something.
Ditto towards Peng. Look how starving the little trolls look! You just have to feed them.
So which was your alternative nation ?
Why do you ask?
Penguania And Antarctica
I'm going to keep my other nation private for now. As far as I know people still regard it relatively favorably, because I use puppets like this vent all of my dissent. Jas can evict this if he wants for violating the law against undeclared puppets. But yes, you know me.
The Wyrenian Republic
omg dont be thick. you keep preaching about "dont feed the trolls" and then continue to interact with me. if im a troll then take your own advice.
but seriously, yall need to put some limits on the founders. even if you trust the people with account access, their discretion needs to be guided by a strict code of conduct. no matter how trustworthy they are, to let them have free reign will only lead to disputes and bad blood.
but seriously, yall need to put some limits on the founders. even if you trust the people with account access, their discretion needs to be guided by a strict code of conduct. no matter how trustworthy they are, to let them have free reign will only lead to disputes and bad blood.
Oh, I love feeding trolls. Its funny. It's the others that preach that. I do it sarcastically, at best. I disregard their advice.
I don't know how many times I can tell you, but we can't. That's not how NS was built. Go petition to Max Berry if you want it changed. They can do whatever they want, and we can't do anything about it. Unless we found an entirely new region, making the Founder non-executive and making us super vulnerable to raids and losing a number of people, then we can't do anything.
I also think I know who you are now.
Guys, please.
Don't feed the damn trolls.
Penguania And Antarctica
I don't know how many times I can tell you, but we can't. That's not how NS was built. Go petition to Max Berry if you want it changed. They can do whatever they want, and we can't do anything about it. Unless we found an entirely new region, making the Founder non-executive and making us super vulnerable to raids and losing a number of people, then we can't do anything.
I don't think you are reading my suggestion. I know how the game works. Im telling you, its a two-pronged approach to founder account stability:
1. Have good people
2. Have clear rules
You have met prong 1 but not prong 2. If you dont meet both prongs it will lead to instability
1. Have good people
2. Have clear rules
You have met prong 1 but not prong 2. If you dont meet both prongs it will lead to instability
Perhaps, but the Founder doesn't have to follow those rules. As much as that system sucks, it's all we have. Anyone could break those rules at anytime if they wanted, regardless of how clear or concise they were.
If you have a constructive suggestion to make, have a little self-respect and address it in a manner consist with the respect extended a member of this community. Hiding behind a puppet to disrespect others and whine in the name of bettering the region does exactly the opposite. You claim to be well-liked in your other nation, if that is the case, we would be happy to hear you out. You claim to care about this region, if that is the case, you can bring up your concern like a mature adult. You claim to want a change, if that is the case, propose it in traditional channels, don't go cursing and disrespecting members of our region. Thanks.
Humph
Kalaron, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland
That's a prong 2 problem. It's solved by following prong 1.
And no, I'm not danny/Valt
Humph
Oh, spare me the hypocrisy. Your back room politics and dirty tricks have already run two regions into the ground.
This is just great.
Should I go with a fake or real tree this year?
Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica
Fake it is. I love my kitties. (he said in a very manly and straight voice)
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus
Liberal Democratic Pacifist Social Libertarian Regional Government
The COFN in one phrase
#GoArmy #BeatNavy
Kalaron, Penguania And Antarctica
[nation=short]Humpheria Major[/nation] I literally lol'd when I got your telegram. I publicly call you out for your backroom politics, and your response to is privately telegram me asking for suggestions. This is the exact kind of shady dealing that makes you unfit to lead a region.
Just in case anyone was considering voting for Humph, remember he made a secret deal with [nation=short]Puerto Vino[/nation] to come to Montaris, and then ordered his interior minister to grant PV citizenship even though he didn't meet the regional requirements. Then, Humph resigned instead of dealing with the consequences of his illegal actions.
And, he constantly moaned and groaned about Ru's "royal family" but eventually allowed Ru to promote him to "Prince." Come on....
Just in case anyone was considering voting for Humph, remember he made a secret deal with [nation=short]Puerto Vino[/nation] to come to Montaris, and then ordered his interior minister to grant PV citizenship even though he didn't meet the regional requirements. Then, Humph resigned instead of dealing with the consequences of his illegal actions.
And, he constantly moaned and groaned about Ru's "royal family" but eventually allowed Ru to promote him to "Prince." Come on....
Serves me right for what? Trying to listen to your concerns?
If you, ya know, actually cared about the truth, you would remember that the PV deal was made in my absence by Ru and Merc who was acting in my place during my absence from the game. I was against the PV deal but it was done by the time I was back. I did instruct Bear to grant him citizenship, which was not at all illegal, though in retrospect it was the wrong decision. I was in an impossible decision and made the decision that I had to live with. I acknowledged the mistake. I am open and accountable for my past (and identity). Not everyone can say the same.
If anyone is curious about the "evil and shady backroom dealings" that our spooky and mysterious friend is referencing, here it is:
Wired To → The Wyrenian Republic
2 hours ago
What are your specific concerns that you would like to address?
I will await my trial for being too responsive to the concerns of the members of our region.
Vista Major, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland
#GoNavy #BeatArmy
Au Minbo, Tserra, The United Providences Of Perland, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus, Yukona
I have supported Army my entire life, and joked about it earlier. This year, however, I was rooting for Navy because my candidate and boss graduated from the Naval Academy.
I can't win.
Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus, Yukona
I hope everyone is having a superb Saturday.
Does anyone know if how you answer national issues affects your population growth rate? Or does population increase according to a fixed growth curve?
Penguania And Antarctica
Penguania And Antarctica, Mdogao
Does anyone know if how you answer national issues affects your population growth rate? Or does population increase according to a fixed growth curve?
Your population increases at a fixed rate the longer you have been around. For example a new nation may have 5 million citizens but eventually that can grow into 5 or 6 billion in time.
Penguania And Antarctica, Mdogao
Does anyone know if how you answer national issues affects your population growth rate? Or does population increase according to a fixed growth curve?
Prime example:
This nation has 781 million and it was founded in July. My old original nation that was founded in October 2013 has 6.74 billion.
Mdogao
This nation has 781 million and it was founded in July. My old original nation that was founded in October 2013 has 6.74 billion.
Thanks! Do you know what the rate is? I have been storing my daily population in a spreadsheet to try to calculate the growth rate but it doesn't seem to be any kind of straight line or logarithmic or exponential curve. Instead my populatiom seems to increase by a random amount every day.
Separately, does any here play around with the game's API? I am trying to learn how to query it to model my nation's economy in Python.
MESSAGE FROM THE OFFICE OF THE SPEAKER
There will be a meeting of the House of Delegates tomorrow, Sunday 11 December 2016, at 2000 UTC (1500 EST).
Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Nf-5hi5xB16TJXotkjUAYZPC7pWBlRnUt8gadWGAJPE/edit?usp=sharing
Jaslandia, Vista Major, The United Providences Of Perland, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus
#LatroviaForPresident
Progress is in our Hands!
Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Mdogao
My Royal Family is complete
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=vista_major/detail=factbook/id=727256
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton, Mdogao
Hey, everyone!
This is Vista! Well, technically, this is East Kingston. This was my very first nation on NationStates. My 8th grade civics teacher had us NS for a yearlong project, and I loved the site ever since. Of course, I made Vista Major and went with that, but I did want East Kingston back for a go around.
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton
Hello East Kingston and Ninevuh, welcome to the COFN
Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton
Yee ^_^
Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, Mdogao
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