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Baxten wrote:I know, it's so exciting

It's unfortunate that no one will have defeat in their history. No nation is perfect, and setbacks/defeats are normal. It's not just you, Nurem, it's mostly everyone.

... I'm literally the epitome of a failed state :p

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Aldaur, Continental Commonwealths

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:... I'm literally the epitome of a failed state :p

lol

I did say mostly everyone, and you're definitely not like most.

Baxten wrote:I don't wanna make it mandatory, but I'll sure as hell shame the people who don't have any. In my history, I've lost many colonial rebellions and such, but it's history and it happens. Besides, it won't affect their current situation (but would help with geopolitics)

#BeAuthoritative :p

I need to redo mt history, so I will be sure to add plenty of setbacks.

Baxten wrote:I don't wanna make it mandatory, but I'll sure as hell shame the people who don't have any. In my history, I've lost many colonial rebellions and such, but it's history and it happens. Besides, it won't affect their current situation (but would help with geopolitics)

Can I get 25 (Iraq) for Farahan?

Jaslandia, Aldaur

Baxten wrote:I don't wanna make it mandatory, but I'll sure as hell shame the people who don't have any. In my history, I've lost many colonial rebellions and such, but it's history and it happens. Besides, it won't affect their current situation (but would help with geopolitics)

Can I get 25? That's Iraq. It would make sense since the capital of the Kurdish settlement in Iraq is called Erbil.

Jaslandia, Aldaur

Nuremgard wrote:Can I get 25? That's Iraq. It would make sense since the capital of the Kurdish settlement in Iraq is called Erbil.

25 is just Kurdistan. Also, I'll need your leaders name for the ITF.

Aldaur

Baxten wrote:25 is just Kurdistan. Also, I'll need your leaders name for the ITF.

Even better then. The leader's name is Shahbanu Darya the Dutiful.

Jaslandia, Aldaur, Oelesa

Baxten wrote:lol

I did say mostly everyone, and you're definitely not like most.

Given I've retconned my nation to be like Hell (Somalia), the pirate name is mostly just an artifact title though pirates still exist

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Aldaur

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:... I'm literally the epitome of a failed state :p

Same, man. We're a lawless, anarchic group of people whose worst enemies are their neighbouring Commonwealths. The confederal government isn't even allowed to raise an army because it would decide winners and losers among the conflicting Commonwealths.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Aldaur

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Same, man. We're a lawless, anarchic group of people whose worst enemies are their neighbouring Commonwealths. The confederal government isn't even allowed to raise an army because it would decide winners and losers among the conflicting Commonwealths.

Yeah: since I'm keeping the tribals from the Montaris-era PK, it's basically the Peshmerga and Iraqi security forces (unless the tribal administration grants it, the Security Forces cannot operate inside the territory of the former), and Somalia is combined due to the governments of Somaliland, Puntland, Galmadug, and Jubaland existing as independent states in all but name.

Aldaur

Kalaron wrote:I...honestly can't really agree.

1. Like, Alabama and Arkansas have both celebrated it on that day since 1947 -Lee-Jackson day is different, but kinda happened for the same reasons- so I believe the situation isn't quite about sending a message so much as merging a Federal Holiday with other, ancillary, holidays so as to avoid cluttering calendars.

2. Besides, I believe the day is more made for celebrating the man's general behavior during the war and in life than for the CSA itself -though, admittedly, it is why he was famous- as most Virginians and southerners revered him for his seemingly perpetual portrait of a loyal and dutiful Christian who chose to support his birth state over what then seemed like a barely stable congregation of states, expressed no animosity in war and in defeat expressed only peaceful good will towards the USA.

https://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/us/robert-e-lee-birthday

3. To be quite clear, I don't support any of the actions or beliefs of the CSA or Lee -Excepting that The Union is meant to be perpetual- , but I still think that being so fervent about separating a holiday that honours a white man and a black man might be honestly as far from MLK's vision as possible...even if you are doing it for wholly understandable moral reason :P

1. And the fact that they chose to merge those two holidays, out of all the possible holidays, is certainly telling. Even if it would have made the holiday farther from Lee and Jackson's actual birthdays, they could have celebrated Robert E. Lee on any other day of the year (Memorial Day or Veterans Day would have been appropriate), but the fact that they share a day with a civil rights hero indicates that the Southern states are either trying to send a message, or are stupefyingly naive and oblivious.

2. Lee could have cured cancer and the common cold, but his actions fighting for the Confederacy are what he's going to be best known for. Regardless of Lee's noble behavior, and regardless of why he chose the side he did, he still fought for (and in fact was a high-ranking general for) a country that was specifically founded to defend slavery, so the irony of celebrating both a civil rights hero and Confederate hero on the same day is so strong it can only be intentional.

3. Except, this isn't just honoring both a black man and on the same day: this is honoring two vastly different men who fought for vastly different causes. It would be like celebrating a Jewish person on the same day as Adolf Hitler's birthday (I apologize for the Godwin's law).

Continental Commonwealths

Name: The United Kurdish Kingdom of Farahan

Motto: Shelter for our people.

Religion: Many

All Kurds and indeed foreigners are welcome to join the bosom of the Shahbanu.

Jaslandia, Aldaur

Jaslandia wrote:

3. Except, this isn't just honoring both a black man and on the same day: this is honoring two vastly different men who fought for vastly different causes. It would be like celebrating a Jewish person on the same day as Adolf Hitler's birthday (I apologize for the Godwin's law).

*both a black man and a white man. Left out a part.

Take that Unfallious. Look at all these members. I'd like to see you get close to us

OOC: No, like I'd seriously like to see that. If y'all could restore the borders of the USSR + Mongolia through puppet states/equal alliance members, that'd be really great

Aldaur, Oelesa

Baxten wrote:Take that Unfallious. Look at all these members. I'd like to see you get close to us

OOC: No, like I'd seriously like to see that. If y'all could restore the borders of the USSR + Mongolia through puppet states/equal alliance members, that'd be really great

Specifically, if you could exert your influence over/annex 11, 12, 14, 18, 21, 24, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, and 76, that'd be awesome.

Aldaur

Jaslandia wrote:1. And the fact that they chose to merge those two holidays, out of all the possible holidays, is certainly telling. Even if it would have made the holiday farther from Lee and Jackson's actual birthdays, they could have celebrated Robert E. Lee on any other day of the year (Memorial Day or Veterans Day would have been appropriate), but the fact that they share a day with a civil rights hero indicates that the Southern states are either trying to send a message, or are stupefyingly naive and oblivious.

2. Lee could have cured cancer and the common cold, but his actions fighting for the Confederacy are what he's going to be best known for. Regardless of Lee's noble behavior, and regardless of why he chose the side he did, he still fought for (and in fact was a high-ranking general for) a country that was specifically founded to defend slavery, so the irony of celebrating both a civil rights hero and Confederate hero on the same day is so strong it can only be intentional.

3. Except, this isn't just honoring both a black man and on the same day: this is honoring two vastly different men who fought for vastly different causes. It would be like celebrating a Jewish person on the same day as Adolf Hitler's birthday (I apologize for the Godwin's law).

I'm just kinda sitting here wondering why it even matters to be brought up? This may just be my white privilege talking, but does it really matter this much? Just seems like kind of a pointless thing to bring up.

Sulania wrote:I'm just kinda sitting here wondering why it even matters to be brought up? This may just be my white privilege talking, but does it really matter this much? Just seems like kind of a pointless thing to bring up.

Yea fvck MLK day! Leeeeeeet's go Lee! :p

Aldaur wrote:Yea fvck MLK day! Leeeeeeet's go Lee! :p

I mean, I am a Southerner... So... Hehe

*Waves Confederate Flag around*

Aldaur, Pirate Kingdoms

Sulania wrote:I mean, I am a Southerner... So... Hehe

*Waves Confederate Flag around*

I will mention that I have a Confederate Flag, though in my closet and burned beyond recognition.

Aldaur

Sulania wrote:I mean, I am a Southerner... So... Hehe

*Waves Confederate Flag around*

Honestly, the Confed flag should be banned. Not because I care about it being a symbol of racism but because it is a symbol of rebellion. No one should dare defy the Fed. Let's get rid of all State flags!

#UnitaryStateIsTheTrueUnitedStates

Like this comment if your nation is ruled by a monarch of some sort.

Merlinton, Nuremgard, The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Baxten, Farahan, Pirate Kingdoms

Aldaur wrote:Honestly, the Confed flag should be banned. Not because I care about it being a symbol of racism but because it is a symbol of rebellion. No one should dare defy the Fed. Let's get rid of all State flags!

#UnitaryStateIsTheTrueUnitedStates

... Now, you see, I use this argument in the realm that it shouldn't be on any government property. But Private Citizens should be allowed to own it, and do whatever they want with it.

Jaslandia, Aldaur, Kalaron

Sulania wrote:... Now, you see, I use this argument in the realm that it shouldn't be on any government property. But Private Citizens should be allowed to own it, and do whatever they want with it.

I was being theatrical :p It shouldn't be flown in public, but if you want to keep it in your house, go ahead. Cough* bigot! Cough* :p

Jaslandia

Aldaur wrote:I was being theatrical :p It shouldn't be flown in public, but if you want to keep it in your house, go ahead. Cough* bigot! Cough* :p

Now I'll have you know that the Confederate Flag, even though it's not really the actual Confederate Flag and is the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia, is actually a symbol for State's Rights and the fight against tyranny. Ya darn yank. *Spits in pot*

Aldaur

Sulania wrote:Now I'll have you know that the Confederate Flag, even though it's not really the actual Confederate Flag and is the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia, is actually a symbol for State's Rights and the fight against tyranny. Ya darn yank. *Spits in pot*

The only reason that flag should by flying is if you want to bring back slavery! Ah hell....give me! :p

Seriously though, fvck state rights :p

Aldaur wrote:The only reason that flag should by flying is if you want to bring back slavery! Ah hell....give me! :p

Seriously though, fvck state rights :p

I'm all for centralisation in NS so I have all the power but I hate it in real life lol

Well not entirely. I'd be okay with a centralised government in an independent Scotland for the Central Belt (we have terrible local government) but the rural areas and islands need more devolution.

Aldaur

Aldaur wrote:Like this comment if your nation is ruled by a monarch of some sort.

We got clans in Somalia, with most operating under a monarchical system, though support is handed to the central government.

Aldaur

Jaslandia wrote:1. And the fact that they chose to merge those two holidays, out of all the possible holidays, is certainly telling. Even if it would have made the holiday farther from Lee and Jackson's actual birthdays, they could have celebrated Robert E. Lee on any other day of the year (Memorial Day or Veterans Day would have been appropriate), but the fact that they share a day with a civil rights hero indicates that the Southern states are either trying to send a message, or are stupefyingly naive and oblivious.

2. Lee could have cured cancer and the common cold, but his actions fighting for the Confederacy are what he's going to be best known for. Regardless of Lee's noble behavior, and regardless of why he chose the side he did, he still fought for (and in fact was a high-ranking general for) a country that was specifically founded to defend slavery, so the irony of celebrating both a civil rights hero and Confederate hero on the same day is so strong it can only be intentional.

3. Except, this isn't just honoring both a black man and on the same day: this is honoring two vastly different men who fought for vastly different causes. It would be like celebrating a Jewish person on the same day as Adolf Hitler's birthday (I apologize for the Godwin's law).

1. MLK day happens on the fifteenth, Jas, while Robert E. Lee day happens on the nineteenth...it's actually not that telling that they merged two holidays that were four days apart, one of which being a Federal Holiday with the usual break inside of it.

I also gotta point out that the reason for setting a holiday up would most certainly be important when talking about moving it, indeed, one can say that it was to celebrate the CSA and his service to it, but that would probably have been able to go under a different name and wouldn't directly mention Lee at all, so justifying moving it with "his actions fighting for the Confederacy are what he's going to be best known for" doesn't mean much when we're talking about if they set it up to honour the man's behavior and intentions or not.

Furthermore, he fought for the defense of state's rights, which fell -regrettably- with slavery, by no means is it right for him to do so, but I'm afraid you're letting dissonant morals get in the way of seeing their argument for the creation of a holiday that celebrates his brand of living.

Also, the fact that they set up a holiday over forty years before MLK day became a thing doesn't mean that they have a message to send?

Like, it could just mean that they don't want to move it out of tradition, or because it is -like Sul said- pointless to do so unless one has far beyond too much time on their hands, and morally inconsequential things to be mad about.

2. Well, it honours the lives of men who fought for two different things, yes, but it is moreover in celebration of the fact that they each lived, respectfully, as they did. I fully understand the irony, but I disagree with the notion that it is so overwhelming that there is a clear and present need to reorganize days to account for it.

In short, I hope legislators have more to do than become obstinate about the celebration of a two hundred plus year old Veteran.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=pirate_kingdoms/detail=factbook/id=669694

Made the government and political system: complete clusterfᶙck in other words

Nuremgard

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/nation=pirate_kingdoms/detail=factbook/id=669694

Made the government and political system: complete clusterfᶙck in other words

To be fair, the idea of a nation for pirates for a confederacy of nations for pirates is awesome.

Jaslandia, Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica, Pirate Kingdoms

Nuremgard wrote:To be fair, the idea of a nation for pirates for a confederacy of nations for pirates is awesome.

You know, I might need to make some pirate strongholds inside al-Qarn for that one little touch

Nuremgard, Aldaur

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:You know, I might need to make some pirate strongholds inside al-Qarn for that one little touch

The head of government should totally be the Brethren Court like from POTC lol

Aldaur, Pirate Kingdoms

Nuremgard wrote:The head of government should totally be the Brethren Court like from POTC lol

National junta is already like that, complete with a female leader :p

Also, looks like even Al would have difficulties establishing a foothold in al-Qarn

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Aldaur

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:National junta is already like that, complete with a female leader :p

Also, looks like even Al would have difficulties establishing a foothold in al-Qarn

Yay for female leaders! I have two nations led by women.

Jaslandia, Pirate Kingdoms

Nuremgard wrote:Yay for female leaders! I have two nations led by women.

Mine's is a General and could even be considered nobility (part of the European minority, which dominates the central government)

Nuremgard, Aldaur

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:Mine's is a General and could even be considered nobility (part of the European minority, which dominates the central government)

Oooh it never turns out well when a minority group rules over a majority.

Aldaur, Pirate Kingdoms

Nuremgard wrote:Oooh it never turns out well when a minority group rules over a majority.

Eh, they've been oppressed by the ethnic theocracy, socialist government, and the Islamic insurgents

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Aldaur

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:Eh, they've been oppressed by the ethnic theocracy, socialist government, and the Islamic insurgents

That's quite a mix lol

Jaslandia, Aldaur, Pirate Kingdoms

Nuremgard wrote:That's quite a mix lol

Oh yeah: thank Somalia's history of violence, Djibouti's history of operating ports, and Eritrea's history of post-independence isolation and violence, and you get a terrifyingly beautiful mix for history

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

THE NORTH NABOO PACT

For a Freer World

Merlinton, Oelesa

Sulania wrote:I'm just kinda sitting here wondering why it even matters to be brought up? This may just be my white privilege talking, but does it really matter this much? Just seems like kind of a pointless thing to bring up.

It may not be the most pressing issue of our time, but considering the issues involves civil rights heroes vs. a failed rebellion, I'd say this issue has merit.

Kalaron wrote:1. MLK day happens on the fifteenth, Jas, while Robert E. Lee day happens on the nineteenth...it's actually not that telling that they merged two holidays that were four days apart, one of which being a Federal Holiday with the usual break inside of it.

1.5. I also gotta point out that the reason for setting a holiday up would most certainly be important when talking about moving it, indeed, one can say that it was to celebrate the CSA and his service to it, but that would probably have been able to go under a different name and wouldn't directly mention Lee at all, so justifying moving it with "his actions fighting for the Confederacy are what he's going to be best known for" doesn't mean much when we're talking about if they set it up to honour the man's behavior and intentions or not.

1.75. Furthermore, he fought for the defense of state's rights, which fell -regrettably- with slavery, by no means is it right for him to do so, but I'm afraid you're letting dissonant morals get in the way of seeing their argument for the creation of a holiday that celebrates his brand of living.

1.9. Also, the fact that they set up a holiday over forty years before MLK day became a thing doesn't mean that they have a message to send?

Like, it could just mean that they don't want to move it out of tradition, or because it is -like Sul said- pointless to do so unless one has far beyond too much time on their hands, and morally inconsequential things to be mad about.

2. Well, it honours the lives of men who fought for two different things, yes, but it is moreover in celebration of the fact that they each lived, respectfully, as they did. I fully understand the irony, but I disagree with the notion that it is so overwhelming that there is a clear and present need to reorganize days to account for it.

3. In short, I hope legislators have more to do than become obstinate about the celebration of a two hundred plus year old Veteran.

1. Yeah, I don't buy that. It may be convenient (supposedly), but the implication of celebrating the two on the same day should be pretty obvious to anyone who has gone to elementary school history class. If the legislators had no ill-intentions, they surely they must have thought "Hey, celebrating these two men who fought for basically opposite causes is an unfortunate irony which sends the wrong message, so maybe we should just change it?"

1.5. Like I said, Lee is one of those figures that's hard to praise while still ignoring the most famous aspect of his life. And it's not like Lee is the only noble person who can be celebrated for being noble; there are plenty of good people who didn't fight for the failed rebellion known as the Confederacy.

1.75. There are some things that are just never okay in any time period, and slavery is one of them. And even at the time, there were a decent chunk of people who thought it was wrong to own other human beings.

1.9. You may be talking about the holiday on the 19th, and I don't think it would be nearly as bad if it was kept on the 19th and away from MLK Day; at least then they would be a bit more subtle about what kind of message they're trying to send. They could even move it to November or August or something like that, since they don't even have to celebrate it on Lee's actual birthday; Washington and Lincoln are usually celebrated on Presidents' Day (which can fall between the 15th and 21st of February), and neither of them were born during that period.

2. "but it is moreover in celebration of the fact that they each lived, respectfully, as they did." Unless you're mis-wording that, the similarity between the two is that they both lived. So, I can have a holiday celebrating Genghis Khan and Mother Theresa on the same day, because after all, they both lived?

3. Changing a holiday doesn't seem like too much to ask, especially since I doubt the Lee Day celebrated much outside pro-Confederate circles.

Continental Commonwealths

Jaslandia wrote:It may not be the most pressing issue of our time, but considering the issues involves civil rights heroes vs. a failed rebellion, I'd say this issue has merit.

You're right, it sounds more like an PC-SJW-Outrage Issue over something relatively meaningless like a date, but whatever floats your boat.

Kalaron

THE NORTH NABOO PACT would like to welcome Merlinton to its family!

Merlinton, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota

Vista Major wrote:THE NORTH NABOO PACT would like to welcome Merlinton to its family!

You're welcome Vis. I recommended him to you. Just ask.

Aldaur, Vista Major, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica

Baxten wrote:You're welcome Vis. I recommended him to you. Just ask.

Merlinton told me that they were referred

Aldaur, Oelesa

wow Merlinton, becoming active again...woot!

Merlinton, Vista Major, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Magnatronia

Vista Major wrote:Merlinton told me that they were referred

My influence runs everywhere.

Aldaur, Oelesa

Baxten wrote:My influence runs everywhere.

#Superpower

Baxten, Aldaur

Baxten wrote:My influence runs everywhere.

But by that account, not always so deep

Oelesa

Baxten wrote:You're welcome Vis. I recommended him to you. Just ask.

*her

Vista Major, Oelesa, Minnesota Dakota, Magnatronia

The Royal Republic Of Kumania wrote:*her

Oh really? Well that's great! We need some powerful women in the region.

Merlinton, The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Aldaur, Vista Major, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Magnatronia

Vista Major wrote:But by that account, not always so deep

Vis, I have 13 members in my alliance, and have influenced many others. We can safely say it runs pretty deep.

Aldaur, Vista Major, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica

Baxten wrote:Vis, I have 13 members in my alliance, and have influenced many others. We can safely say it runs pretty deep.

Our*

Vista Major, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica

Aldaur wrote:Our*

You're right, Ald. Our

Btw this is Bax.

Aldaur, Vista Major, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica

Baxten wrote:Vis, I have 13 members in my alliance, and have influenced many others. We can safely say it runs pretty deep.

The ITF is like the regional NATO

Aldaur, Vista Major, Continental Commonwealths, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Magnatronia

Baxten wrote:Oh really? Well that's great! We need some powerful women in the region.

The sausage party has to end eventually

Baxten wrote:Vis, I have 13 members in my alliance, and have influenced many others. We can safely say it runs pretty deep.

Like roots in a dry, infertile soil

Aldaur wrote:Our*

Very true

Aldaur, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica

Sulania wrote:The ITF is like the regional NATO

Ald is Turkey.

Aldaur, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Ald is Turkey.

Yea, pretty much

Aldaur, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica

Vista Major wrote:THE NORTH NABOO PACT would like to welcome Merlinton to its family!

Congrats Merlinton!

Merlinton, Vista Major, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Ald is Turkey.

Why am I Turkey? Lol I am more like Canada! We just want peace everywhere we go! ;)

Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:On second thought, after reading about a custom of theirs (endogamy) I don't think I will do that. It's too exclusionary.

Tserra has all the endogamy, at least for the noble families that is. The peasant population really has no reason.

Nuremgard

Vista Major wrote:THE NORTH NABOO PACT would like to welcome Merlinton to its family!

Magnatronia wrote:Congrats Merlinton!

Thank you so much!

Baxten wrote:You're welcome Vis. I recommended him to you. Just ask.

The Royal Republic Of Kumania wrote:*her

It's true, you did, and I'm grateful for your help. But for future reference [nation=short]The Royal Republic of Kumania[/nation] is right! (Thanks, by the way. It gets a little tiring having to correct that assumption all the time.)

Andromitus wrote:wow Merlinton, becoming active again...woot!

I know! I keep telling people it feels so weird starting over and being a total noob again after having so much knowledge and influence in the ESU. I'm trying to just keep an open mind and ask plenty of questions so I can learn as much as possible.

Baxten wrote:Oh really? Well that's great! We need some powerful women in the region.

Vista Major wrote:The sausage party has to end eventually

Yeah, my last region was definitely a sausage party. I think most of this website is, honestly. Luckily I got used to it and it doesn't bother me too much, especially with open-minded regionmates!

Jaslandia, Grand North America, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Tserra, Yukona, Magnatronia

Hello people. Wish you all a good day.

[spoiler=Today are:]

Today are:

- Anniversary of Prime Minister Patrice Emery Lumumba’s Assassination (Democratic Republic of the Congo)

- Art's Birthday

- Beginning of Patras Carnival (Patras, Greece)

- Benjamin Franklin Day

- Cable Car Day

- Ditch New Year's Resolutions Day

- Kid Inventors’ Day

- National Bootlegger’s Day (United States)

- National Day (Minorca, Spain)

- National Hot Buttered Rum Day (United States)

[/spoiler]

[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 38 BC – Octavian divorces his wife Scribonia and marries Livia Drusilla, ending the fragile peace between the Second Triumvirate and Sextus Pompey.

- 395 – Upon the death of Emperor Theodosius I, the Roman Empire is permanently divided into the Eastern Roman Empire under Arcadius, and the Western Roman Empire under Honorius.

- 1287 – King Alfonso III of Aragon invades Minorca.

- 1377 – Pope Gregory XI moves the Papacy back to Rome from Avignon.

- 1562 – France recognizes the Huguenots by the Edict of Saint-Germain.

- 1595 – During the French Wars of Religion, Henry IV of France declares war on Spain.

- 1608 – Emperor Susenyos I of Ethiopia surprises an Oromo army at Ebenat; his army reportedly kills 12,000 Oromo at the cost of 400 of his men.

- 1648 – England's Long Parliament passes the "Vote of No Addresses", breaking off negotiations with King Charles I and thereby setting the scene for the second phase of the English Civil War.

- 1773 – Captain James Cook commands the first expedition to sail south of the Antarctic Circle.

- 1781 – American Revolutionary War: Battle of Cowpens: Continental troops under Brigadier General Daniel Morgan defeat British forces under Lieutenant Colonel Banastre Tarleton at the battle in South Carolina.

- 1799 – Maltese patriot Dun Mikiel Xerri, along with a number of other patriots, is executed.

- 1811 – Mexican War of Independence: In the Battle of Calderón Bridge, a heavily outnumbered Spanish force of 6,000 troops defeats nearly 100,000 Mexican revolutionaries.

- 1852 – The United Kingdom signs the Sand River Convention with the South African Republic.

- 1873 – A group of Modoc warriors defeats the United States Army in the First Battle of the Stronghold, part of the Modoc War.

- 1893 – Lorrin A. Thurston, along with the Citizens' Committee of Public Safety, led the Overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii and the government of Queen Liliʻuokalani.

- 1899 – The United States takes possession of Wake Island in the Pacific Ocean.

- 1903 – El Yunque National Forest in Puerto Rico becomes part of the United States National Forest System as the Luquillo Forest Reserve.

- 1904 – Anton Chekhov's The Cherry Orchard receives its premiere performance at the Moscow Art Theatre.

- 1912 – Captain Robert Falcon Scott reaches the South Pole, one month after Roald Amundsen.

- 1917 – The United States pays Denmark $25 million for the Virgin Islands.

- 1929 – Popeye the Sailor Man, a cartoon character created by E. C. Segar, first appears in the Thimble Theatre comic strip.

- 1943 – World War II: Greek submarine Papanikolis captures the 200-ton sailing vessel Agios Stefanos and mans her with part of her crew.

- 1944 – World War II: Allied forces launch the first of four assaults on Monte Cassino with the intention of breaking through the Winter Line and seizing Rome, an effort that would ultimately take four months and cost 105,000 Allied casualties.

- 1945 – The SS-Totenkopfverbände begin the evacuation of the Auschwitz concentration camp as Soviet forces close in.

- 1945 – Swedish diplomat Raoul Wallenberg is taken into Soviet custody while in Hungary; he is never publicly seen again.

- 1946 – The UN Security Council holds its first session.

- 1948 – The Renville Agreement between the Netherlands and Indonesia is ratified.

- 1950 – The Great Brink's Robbery: Eleven thieves steal more than $2 million from an armored car company's offices in Boston.

- 1961 – U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower delivers a televised farewell address to the nation three days before leaving office, in which he warns against the accumulation of power by the "military–industrial complex" as well as the dangers of massive spending, especially deficit spending.

- 1966 – Palomares incident: A B-52 bomber collides with a KC-135 Stratotanker over Spain, killing seven airmen, and dropping three 70-kiloton nuclear bombs near the town of Palomares and another one into the sea.

- 1969 – Black Panther Party members Bunchy Carter and John Huggins are killed during a meeting in Campbell Hall on the campus of UCLA.

- 1981 – President of the Philippines Ferdinand Marcos lifts martial law eight years and five months after declaring it.

- 1991 – Gulf War: Operation Desert Storm begins early in the morning. Iraq fires eight Scud missiles into Israel in an unsuccessful bid to provoke Israeli retaliation.

- 1992 – During a visit to South Korea, Japanese Prime Minister Kiichi Miyazawa apologizes for forcing Korean women into sexual slavery during World War II.

- 1994 – The 6.5–6.7 Mw Northridge earthquake shakes the Greater Los Angeles Area with a maximum Mercalli intensity of IX (Violent), leaving 57 people dead and more than 8,700 injured.

- 1995 – The 6.9 Mw Great Hanshin earthquake shakes the southern Hyōgo Prefecture with a maximum Shindo of VII, leaving 5,502–6,434 people dead, and 251,301–310,000 displaced.

- 1996 – The Czech Republic applies for membership of the European Union.

- 1997 – Cape Canaveral Air Force Station: A Delta II carrying a GPS2R satellite explodes 13 seconds after launch, dropping 250 tons of burning rocket remains around the launch pad.

- 1998 – Lewinsky scandal: Matt Drudge breaks the story of the Bill Clinton–Monica Lewinsky affair on his Drudge Report website.

- 2002 – Mount Nyiragongo erupts in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, displacing an estimated 400,000 people.

- 2007 – The Doomsday Clock is set to five minutes to midnight in response to North Korea's nuclear testing.

- 2010 – Rioting begins between Muslim and Christian groups in Jos, Nigeria, results in at least 200 deaths.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1463 – Frederick III, Elector of Saxony

- 1600 – Pedro Calderón de la Barca, Spanish playwright and poet

- 1706 – Benjamin Franklin, American publisher, inventor, and politician, 6th President of Pennsylvania

- 1867 – Carl Laemmle, German-born American film producer, co-founded Universal Studios

- 1899 – Al Capone, American mob boss

- 1909 Freddie Frinton, English comedian, music hall and television actor

- 1922 – Betty White, American actress, game show panelist, television personality, and animal rights activist

- 1927 – Eartha Kitt, American actress and singer

- 1931 – James Earl Jones, American actor and voice actor

- 1942 – Muhammad Ali, American boxer and activist

- 1949 – Mick Taylor, English singer-songwriter and guitarist

- 1956 – Paul Young, English singer-songwriter and guitarist

- 1962 – Jim Carrey, Canadian-American actor and producer

- 1964 – Michelle Obama, American lawyer and activist, 46th First Lady of the United States

- 1971 – Kid Rock, American singer-songwriter, producer, and actor

- 1972 – Benno Fürmann, German actor

- 1980 – Zooey Deschanel, American singer-songwriter and actress

- 1984 – Calvin Harris, Scottish singer-songwriter, DJ, and producer

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Quote of the day

Love the moment and the energy of that moment will spread beyond all boundaries.

- Corita Kent -

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Jaslandia, Continental Commonwealths, Oelesa, Tserra, Minnesota Dakota, The United Providences Of Perland, Yukona

Tserra wrote:Tserra has all the endogamy, at least for the noble families that is. The peasant population really has no reason.

Nuremgard wrote:On second thought, after reading about a custom of theirs (endogamy) I don't think I will do that. It's too exclusionary.

Same with the Somali clans: most will marry the members of a sub-clan or of its sub-division over a person from another clan altogether, mostly to cement an alliance between sub-clans.

Nuremgard, Tserra

Regional Paper

Two new stories in our regional paper, check them out here!

Merlinton, Nuremgard, Minnesota Dakota

After the events in Khutonga, I'm thinking I might spend more time acting as an isolationist nation :P, could lead to some interesting outcomes in world affairs

Aldaur, Continental Commonwealths, Yukona, Magnatronia

Merlinton wrote:Thank you so much!

It's true, you did, and I'm grateful for your help. But for future reference [nation=short]The Royal Republic of Kumania[/nation] is right! (Thanks, by the way. It gets a little tiring having to correct that assumption all the time.)

I know! I keep telling people it feels so weird starting over and being a total noob again after having so much knowledge and influence in the ESU. I'm trying to just keep an open mind and ask plenty of questions so I can learn as much as possible.

Yeah, my last region was definitely a sausage party. I think most of this website is, honestly. Luckily I got used to it and it doesn't bother me too much, especially with open-minded regionmates!

Hi again, Merlinton!

Merlinton, Yukona, Magnatronia

Andromitus wrote:After the events in Khutonga, I'm thinking I might spend more time acting as an isolationist nation :P, could lead to some interesting outcomes in world affairs

Not sure your membership with the ITF makes a whole lot of sense, then.

Perhaps a coalition of neutral, non-interventionists is required.

Penguania And Antarctica, Magnatronia

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Not sure your membership with the ITF makes a whole lot of sense, then.

Perhaps a coalition of neutral, non-interventionists is required.

How about HOPE ?

Organization for Humanity, Optimism, Peace and Empathy

Our organisation wasn't realized yet.

Jaslandia, Aldaur, Vista Major, Continental Commonwealths, Magnatronia

Post self-deleted by Magnatronia.

Post self-deleted by Magnatronia.

Andromitus wrote:After the events in Khutonga, I'm thinking I might spend more time acting as an isolationist nation :P, could lead to some interesting outcomes in world affairs

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Not sure your membership with the ITF makes a whole lot of sense, then.

Perhaps a coalition of neutral, non-interventionists is required.

I joined the ITF to have back up in case of an attack. But I think Andy and I will be cool once we end peace talks. Also, sorry for being mean to you in IC Andy! Promise I'm not actually mean like that. Just like playing the part of bad guy. We still cool?

Aldaur

Andromitus wrote:After the events in Khutonga, I'm thinking I might spend more time acting as an isolationist nation :P, could lead to some interesting outcomes in world affairs

What happened? Lol Who's on what faction?

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:How about HOPE ?

Organization for Humanity, Optimism, Peace and Empathy

Our organisation wasn't realized yet.

I wouldn't go with that name, if only because my school's required gym class is called 'HOPE' (Health Opportunities through Physical Education), and I don't want to be reminded of it.

Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica

Aldaur wrote:What happened? Lol Who's on what faction?

Magnatronia and I went to war, I rolled dice like Oel [think it was Oel], and my largest military force, the Red Battalion, invaded Khutonga as my nation switched from an Interim Government to an Actual, formal one.

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Not sure your membership with the ITF makes a whole lot of sense, then.

Perhaps a coalition of neutral, non-interventionists is required.

I'd maintain a smaller military and engage in major trade, but I'd push towards more isolationist policies regarding international politics, staying out of proxy war scenarios unless absolutely necessary.

Don't question it of yet, I'm still working out the details and how I'd put what I want into words.

Aldaur

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:How about HOPE ?

Organization for Humanity, Optimism, Peace and Empathy

Our organisation wasn't realized yet.

What about "LIT"?

League for Isolationist Tools :p

At least you get to party

#Let'sGetLIT!

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Commonwealth Of Californian States, The United Providences Of Perland

Jaslandia wrote:I wouldn't go with that name, if only because my school's required gym class is called 'HOPE' (Health Opportunities through Physical Education), and I don't want to be reminded of it.

Sorry to hear that. :(

Jaslandia, Aldaur

Aldaur wrote:What about "LIT"?

League for Isolationist Tools :p

At least you get to party

#Let'sGetLIT!

Nah. HOPE is better. It is a good word.

Aldaur

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Nah. HOPE is better. It is a good word.

Why not "Harmonious Organization for Peaceful Engagement"? Makes more since than listing off a bunch of words :p

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Aldaur wrote:Why not "Harmonious Organization for Peaceful Engagement"? Makes more since than listing off a bunch of words :p

Hmm. Interesting. I kinda like that.

Aldaur

(Technically) the last day to vote on this amendment:

http://s15.zetaboards.com/COFN/topic/10104131/2/

Please excuse its excessive length.

Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

Aldaur wrote:Like this comment if your nation is ruled by a monarch of some sort.

So by the likes, there are at least 7 nations, including myself (I counted Farahan and left Nurem), so I think we should make a Royalist League!

Nuremgard

Jaslandia wrote:I wouldn't go with that name, if only because my school's required gym class is called 'HOPE' (Health Opportunities through Physical Education), and I don't want to be reminded of it.

You'll espouse neutrality while skipping rope and you'll like it!

Jaslandia, Aldaur, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Sorry to hear that. :(

Don't worry about it. It's just my personal thing.

Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

if all goes well CG will go online tomorrow

Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

Aldaur wrote:So by the likes, there are at least 7 nations, including myself (I counted Farahan and left Nurem), so I think we should make a Royalist League!

Aww. Poor Nuremgard got left out the loop lol but to be fear it's a democracy and it's monarchy has little to no say in government so...it would make sense for Farahan to be in the League since the monarch actually rules :p

Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica

Unfallious wrote:if all goes well CG will go online tomorrow

Can we sign up for it later? I am planning on redoing my military factbooks and consolidating them into a single thing.

Btw, you can now submit a story to our regional paper via clicking the "Submit a Story" in parentheses.

Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica

THE ELECTIONS IN MY NATION HAVE CONCLUDED (forum post tomorrow)

here are the results:

1 American Union of Fascists

2 Popular Front for Peace and Liberty

3 Pan-American Communist Party

4 Texan Liberal Party

5 Republican Party

6 Syndicated Political Entity Inc.

7 Democratic Party

8 Anarchists / La Raza (tie)

9 Texas Republic Faction

Aldaur, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Yukona

Grand North America wrote:THE ELECTIONS IN MY NATION HAVE CONCLUDED (forum post tomorrow)

here are the results:

1 American Union of Fascists

2 Popular Front for Peace and Liberty

3 Pan-American Communist Party

4 Texan Liberal Party

5 Republican Party

6 Syndicated Political Entity Inc.

7 Democratic Party

8 Anarchists / La Raza (tie)

9 Texas Republic Faction

Woulda preferred the SPE Inc., but the Fascists'll do.

Aldaur, Grand North America, The United Providences Of Perland

Fun fact:

I actually did all results randomly with a d100 dice, with the poll results adding +10 for each vote, and then did some math (getting the size of an average voting bloc from my population, and multiplying it with the result, and then adding +2 to each party's result, since the percentages came down to 80%, i'm not too good with math) to churn out the percentages.

Merlinton, Jaslandia, Aldaur, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

Grand North America wrote:THE ELECTIONS IN MY NATION HAVE CONCLUDED (forum post tomorrow)

here are the results:

1 American Union of Fascists

2 Popular Front for Peace and Liberty

3 Pan-American Communist Party

4 Texan Liberal Party

5 Republican Party

6 Syndicated Political Entity Inc.

7 Democratic Party

8 Anarchists / La Raza (tie)

9 Texas Republic Faction

So Manifest Destiny will occur? Hallelujah, praise the Lord.

Aldaur, Grand North America, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

By April 21st, Nuremgard will be 4 years old.

Does not feel like it.

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

Grand North America wrote:THE ELECTIONS IN MY NATION HAVE CONCLUDED (forum post tomorrow)

here are the results:

1 American Union of Fascists

2 Popular Front for Peace and Liberty

3 Pan-American Communist Party

4 Texan Liberal Party

5 Republican Party

6 Syndicated Political Entity Inc.

7 Democratic Party

8 Anarchists / La Raza (tie)

9 Texas Republic Faction

Thatta boi! Your people voted correctly.

Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

I also decided to go forward and hit that mf FEDERALIZE button on my nation (since parties that support federalization are now in majority)

i'm busy studying chemistry so the associated RP thread will come tomorrow

Aldaur, The United Providences Of Perland

Aldaur wrote:Can we sign up for it later? I am planning on redoing my military factbooks and consolidating them into a single thing.

sure this is an ongoing thing, sign up whenever.

You will miss the initial fun global conference though.

Oh, one thing to point out. I'm mandating annual global conferences in the RP that will take place in one of the capitals of the people playing on a rotating basis. You can feel free to not go, but I think it's a neat thing to keep the RP from going stale.

Jaslandia, Aldaur

also no terror attacks at the first global conference please. I distinctly remember the last time that happened with Aldaur.

Jaslandia, Aldaur, Vista Major, The United Providences Of Perland

is the GC taking place now?

Grand North America wrote:is the GC taking place now?

Tomorrow.

Unfallious wrote:also no terror attacks at the first global conference please. I distinctly remember the last time that happened with Aldaur.

In my defense, things were very boring, going no where and the theme was global war :p

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