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Continental Commonwealths wrote:All good points! But Nunavut is a territory, not a province.

Oh. Well, this is embarrassing. *Quietly scoots out of the room*

Axeldonia, Mercunova

Jaslandia wrote:Oh. Well, this is embarrassing. *Quietly scoots out of the room*

Don't worry, I'm sure Puerto Rico feels your pain, too

I have been thinking about my friend group a lot recently. I am the only gay one who is single. I probably will stay single in high school because no one my age is out and single. #ForeverAlone

Russkov Soviet

Midasia wrote:I have been thinking about my friend group a lot recently. I am the only gay one who is single. I probably will stay single in high school because no one my age is out and single. #ForeverAlone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuNhTLVgV2Y

Midasia wrote:I have been thinking about my friend group a lot recently. I am the only gay one who is single. I probably will stay single in high school because no one my age is out and single. #ForeverAlone

I wouldn't say *Forever* alone... It sounds more like #HighSchoolSingle to me. Besides... Once you graduate, the possibilities are endless..

Axeldonia, Midasia

Kalaron wrote:Hey, I should have said this before but I didn't remember to; for that I apologize. RP content like actions has to go on the RP region, for the sake of not rewriting, posts you've written before this obviously count but all after this should be in it's appropriate place.

can you direct me to the RP region?

Midasia wrote:I have been thinking about my friend group a lot recently. I am the only gay one who is single. I probably will stay single in high school because no one my age is out and single. #ForeverAlone

This is why you go to uni in a very gay place. Might I suggest south Florida?

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:can you direct me to the RP region?

https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_confederacy_general

Vista Major wrote:Don't worry, I'm sure Puerto Rico feels your pain, too

Yeah, the difference being that if Nunavut gets hit by a natural disaster tomorrow we’ll actually help them.

Yukona, Gualimole

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Yeah, the difference being that if Nunavut gets hit by a natural disaster tomorrow we’ll actually help them.

Unlike in communist Canada, we here in America allow people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps! The Puerto Ricans should pull themselves up from this disaster. However, if you're a big bank, then we'll pull you up because you're too big to fail. However, Puerto Rico is not too big to fail, so they have to pull themselves up.

'Murica

Nuremgard, Axeldonia, Yukona, Confederal States

Gualimole wrote:Unlike in communist Canada, we here in America allow people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps! The Puerto Ricans should pull themselves up from this disaster. However, if you're a big bank, then we'll pull you up because you're too big to fail. However, Puerto Rico is not too big to fail, so they have to pull themselves up.

'Murica

Conservatives: helping people with the means to help themselves since forever.

Axeldonia, Gualimole

Gualimole wrote:Unlike in communist Canada, we here in America allow people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps! The Puerto Ricans should pull themselves up from this disaster. However, if you're a big bank, then we'll pull you up because you're too big to fail. However, Puerto Rico is not too big to fail, so they have to pull themselves up.

'Murica

This reminds me of that Exchange between Kevin O’Leary and Amanda Lang when O’Leary is celebrating the greater concentration of the world’s wealth in the hands of fewer people because it (he posits) motivates people to work harder and become successful.

Lang’s response that all it takes for people in Africa making a dollar a day to succeed is to pull up their socks, and- wait, they don’t have socks.

Nuremgard, Axeldonia, Gualimole

Continental Commonwealths wrote:This reminds me of that Exchange between Kevin O’Leary and Amanda Lang when O’Leary is celebrating the greater concentration of the world’s wealth in the hands of fewer people because it (he posits) motivates people to work harder and become successful.

Lang’s response that all it takes for people in Africa making a dollar a day to succeed is to pull up their socks, and- wait, they don’t have socks.

Oh, wait. This Exchange.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AuqemytQ5QA

Nuremgard, Gualimole

Continental Commonwealths wrote:This reminds me of that Exchange between Kevin O’Leary and Amanda Lang when O’Leary is celebrating the greater concentration of the world’s wealth in the hands of fewer people because it (he posits) motivates people to work harder and become successful.

Lang’s response that all it takes for people in Africa making a dollar a day to succeed is to pull up their socks, and- wait, they don’t have socks.

Baby Boomers still think it's the 80s, a time in which a college degree guaranteed you a job for the rest of your life and a time in which income and wealth inequality wasn't as bad as it is now in most developed nations.

Gualimole wrote:Baby Boomers still think it's the 80s, a time in which a college degree guaranteed you a job for the rest of your life and a time in which income and wealth inequality wasn't as bad as it is now in most developed nations.

I think I read somewhere that this will be the first generation to be worse off than their parents financially.

Gualimole

Nuremgard wrote:I think I read somewhere that this will be the first generation to be worse off than their parents financially.

Late stage capitalism is late stage capitalism.

Gualimole wrote:Late stage capitalism is late stage capitalism.

I read a comment which said the current economic model is "feudalism disguising itself as capitalism." I'd say that's accurate. Wealth inequality is at its worst levels in human history.

Gualimole

Nuremgard wrote:I read a comment which said the current economic model is "feudalism disguising itself as capitalism." I'd say that's accurate. Wealth inequality is at its worst levels in human history.

Our current economic model is capitalism. It's not feudalism. It's not corporatism. It's not crony capitalism. It's just capitalism. The incentive structures under the capitalist mode of production have led to the inequalities that we see now.

Gualimole wrote:Our current economic model is capitalism. It's not feudalism. It's not corporatism. It's not crony capitalism. It's just capitalism. The incentive structures under the capitalist mode of production have led to the inequalities that we see now.

And there's no signs of that changing any time soon.

Nuremgard wrote:And there's no signs of that changing any time soon.

How soon is soon?

Gualimole wrote:How soon is soon?

Well feudalism lasted a couple of thousand years. So I'd say that kind of time scale.

Nuremgard wrote:Well feudalism lasted a couple of thousand years. So I'd say that kind of time scale.

I disagree. In the next 100 years, due to the Fourth Industrial Revolution, we are likely going to enter into a virtually post-scarcity economy in which the capitalist mode of production is obsolete.

Gualimole wrote:I disagree. In the next 100 years, due to the Fourth Industrial Revolution, we are likely going to enter into a virtually post-scarcity economy in which the capitalist mode of production is obsolete.

Well I'll be dead by then so meh.

Nuremgard wrote:Well I'll be dead by then so meh.

Advances in health will allow us to live longer.

Gualimole wrote:Advances in health will allow us to live longer.

Dunno if that'll cover me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_effect

Nuremgard wrote:Dunno if that'll cover me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_effect

Have you prepared your gravestone yet?

/s

Nuremgard

Gualimole wrote:Have you prepared your gravestone yet?

/s

I've considered it.

Nuremgard wrote:I've considered it.

At least instances of battery don't kill people. Then you Scots would be really screwed.

Nuremgard

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Gualimole wrote:I disagree. In the next 100 years, due to the Fourth Industrial Revolution, we are likely going to enter into a virtually post-scarcity economy in which the capitalist mode of production is obsolete.

I'm very doubtful that any "post scarcity" society will ever exist so long as we can't transmute matter into energy and vice-versa. Optimization is probable if not certain, but anything resembling the eradication of scarcity is extremely unlikely at best and impossible at worst. And that's without resource depletion as a result of the increased number of humans.

I am genuinely curious:

https://www.strawpoll.me/15808848

Nuremgard, Vista Major

Kalaron wrote:I'm very doubtful that any "post scarcity" society will ever exist so long as we can't transmute matter into energy and vice-versa. Optimization is probable if not certain, but anything resembling the eradication of scarcity is extremely unlikely at best and impossible at worst. And that's without resource depletion as a result of the increased number of humans.

I said "virtually post-scarcity economy". Additionally, overpopulation is not really a concern due to falling birth rates. The 12 billionth person will never be born.

Gualimole wrote:I am genuinely curious:

https://www.strawpoll.me/15808848

Liberal Socialism is best socialism. @ everyone you can fight me if you disagree.

Midasia wrote:Liberal Socialism is best socialism. @ everyone you can fight me if you disagree.

Your ideology is an oxymoron. Never has there been a liberal democracy that practiced an economic system in which society collectively owns the means of production. One of the most important aspects of a liberal democracy is the protection of private property, which is fairly unsocialistic. Liberalism and capitalism are inseparable. The closest that liberal democracies have come to socialism is social democracy.

Nuremgard

Gualimole wrote:Your ideology is an oxymoron. Never has there been a liberal democracy that practiced an economic system in which society collectively owns the means of production. One of the most important aspects of a liberal democracy is the protection of private property, which is fairly unsocialistic. Liberalism and capitalism are inseparable. The closest that liberal democracies have come to socialism is social democracy.

That's why we're going fascist in Iberia. Liberal democracy doesn't work.

Nuremgard wrote:That's why we're going fascist in Iberia. Liberal democracy doesn't work.

That's even worse.

Gualimole wrote:That's even worse.

It gets even worse. The ruling party plans to reintroduce feudalism.

Nuremgard wrote:It gets even worse. The ruling party plans to reintroduce feudalism.

Fascists generally are not neo-feudalists. These Iberian fascists must support a very unique type of fascism.

Mercunova, The West Country

Gualimole wrote:I said "virtually post-scarcity economy". Additionally, overpopulation is not really a concern due to falling birth rates. The 12 billionth person will never be born.

To be honest, I'm highly doubtful a "virtual" post-scarcity economy will exist either. What are you counting on to make it relatively "Post-scarcity" and how do you plan to get there? Because as far as my realizations go when something seems too good to be true in terms of tech, it is indeed too good to be true.

My source for most tech-news, or more accurately, tech itself comes from Atomic Rockets since they tend to do their homework without getting too flowery eyed on what technology itself can do. http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/

Gualimole wrote:Fascists generally are not neo-feudalists. These Iberian fascists must support a very unique type of fascism.

Nurem's nations' cultures tend to be quite unique. For a Nurem nation it isn't totally out of the question.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Midasia

Gualimole wrote:Fascists generally are not neo-feudalists. These Iberian fascists must support a very unique type of fascism.

Yeah, I'm not sure what their ideology is to be honest. The ruling party is comprised mostly of aristocrats who want a return to feudalism and imperialism. They want a one-party state, are authoritarian Catholics and are pro-business.

Mercunova wrote:Nurem's nations' cultures tend to be quite unique. For a Nurem nation it isn't totally out of the question.

What's next? A National Bolshevist society with mandatory bisexuality and no army?

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Mercunova

Gualimole wrote:What's next? A National Bolshevist society with mandatory bisexuality and no army?

I wouldn't be surprised.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Gualimole

Gualimole wrote:What's next? A National Bolshevist society with mandatory bisexuality and no army?

I was thinking a Trotskyist government where the Soviets must be made of a majority of homosexual females, dyed pink hair is the badge of office.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Mercunova, Gualimole

Midasia wrote:Liberal Socialism is best socialism. @ everyone you can fight me if you disagree.

It's not real.

Midasia

Unfallious wrote:It's not real.

my wee baby boi unf crushing dreams like usual

Midasia

Ty for the tariffs America enjoy ur (shadow) unemployment as we will ours

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Confederal States

The West Country wrote:Ty for the tariffs America enjoy ur (shadow) unemployment as we will ours

The EU, Canada and Mexico are already preparing for retaliatory measures. The UK is "considering" it. Even now, May is desperate to climb up Trump's arse for a post-Brexit trade deal. Pathetic.

In other news, I cant believe that bitch Arlene Foster is coming to Scotland for the Orange marches. It's so bloody embarrassing.

Nuremgard wrote:The EU, Canada and Mexico are already preparing for retaliatory measures. The UK is "considering" it. Even now, May is desperate to climb up Trump's arse for a post-Brexit trade deal. Pathetic.

Well, Canada is only considering it also while the federal government consults with the public for fifteen days.

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Well, Canada is only considering it also while the federal government consults with the public for fifteen days.

Never mind that. Just do it.

Nuremgard wrote:Never mind that. Just do it.

Er, no. Here we consult with our constituents on public policy decisions, especially those that can impact families as well as small and medium sized enterprises.

Trudeau’s strong stance on retaliating while also being levelheaded enough to engage in consultations before implementation is one of the few things I can commend the guy on throughout his tenure as PM.

Jaslandia, Confederal States

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Er, no. Here we consult with our constituents on public policy decisions, especially those that can impact families as well as small and medium sized enterprises.

Trudeau’s strong stance on retaliating while also being levelheaded enough to engage in consultations before implementation is one of the few things I can commend the guy on throughout his tenure as PM.

So long as you don't just sit under it. Cant let Trump bully you.

Nuremgard wrote:The EU, Canada and Mexico are already preparing for retaliatory measures. The UK is "considering" it. Even now, May is desperate to climb up Trump's arse for a post-Brexit trade deal. Pathetic.

In other news, I cant believe that bitch Arlene Foster is coming to Scotland for the Orange marches. It's so bloody embarrassing.

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Well, Canada is only considering it also while the federal government consults with the public for fifteen days.

Nuremgard wrote:Never mind that. Just do it.

Ironically that’s the attitude Trump has ^. I’d rather we wait and see than jump into a trade war with our closest ally and institute protectionism and cause ourselves unemployment. It’s nothing to do about jumping up his arse, were in a more precarious economic position.

The West Country wrote:Ironically that’s the attitude Trump has ^. I’d rather we wait and see than jump into a trade war with our closest ally and institute protectionism and cause ourselves unemployment. It’s nothing to do about jumping up his arse, were in a more precarious economic position.

So what you're saying is we should just sit under it?

Nuremgard wrote:So what you're saying is we should just sit under it?

No, not at all. In fact quite the opposite!

The West Country wrote:No, not at all. In fact quite the opposite!

Why not just do nothing for the economic benefit of the United States?

/s

The West Country wrote:No, not at all. In fact quite the opposite!

Seriously, man, the sooner Trump drops dead or leaves office the better.

Nuremgard wrote:Seriously, man, the sooner Trump drops dead or leaves office the better.

Lol

The sooner Trump drops dead or leaves office, the sooner Trump drops dead or leaves office.

Things ain't gonna magically improve just because he's gone. Just as he ain't the panacea his supporters make him out to be, he's not the root of all evil either. He's a small part of a much bigger problem.

Bearlong, Nuremgard, Gualimole, The West Country

Mercunova wrote:Lol

The sooner Trump drops dead or leaves office, the sooner Trump drops dead or leaves office.

Things ain't gonna magically improve just because he's gone. Just as he ain't the panacea his supporters make him out to be, he's not the root of all evil either. He's a small part of a much bigger problem.

Yup. We should have kept you under the imperial jackboot. Look at all the trouble your country has caused since independence!

Bearlong, The West Country

Nuremgard wrote:Yup. We should have kept you under the imperial jackboot. Look at all the trouble your country has caused since independence!

You would have lost us at some point. Look at your empire now.

Mercunova wrote:You would have lost us at some point. Look at your empire now.

*looks around* What empire? Hehe.

Mercunova

The West Country wrote:Ironically that’s the attitude Trump has ^. I’d rather we wait and see than jump into a trade war with our closest ally and institute protectionism and cause ourselves unemployment. It’s nothing to do about jumping up his arse, were in a more precarious economic position.

You should look up Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne’s tweet chain from yesterday. She wasn’t holding back. She won’t be Premier in a week’s time, but still.

Continental Commonwealths wrote:You should look up Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne’s tweet chain from yesterday. She wasn’t holding back. She won’t be Premier in a week’s time, but still.

Oops. Sorry, was meant to be in response to Nurem’s

Nuremgard wrote:So long as you don't just sit under it. Cant let Trump bully you.
But you can look up Wynne’s tweet too, Yuk :P

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Oops. Sorry, was meant to be in response to Nurem’sBut you can look up Wynne’s tweet too, Yuk :P

Had a glance at her Twitter feed. Good on her.

Nuremgard wrote:Had a glance at her Twitter feed. Good on her.

Granted, there’s an election next week and so she is in campaign mode. Would she have been this forceful outside of election time? I doubt it. But she’s gotten fiesty these past few days. During Sunday’s debate she pre-empted any critiques of her record (she’s the incumbent, obviously) by literally saying “sorry, not sorry”.

I never wanted her to be Premier, I never voted for her or her party, and I do not want her returned to power. But dammit, she actually ended up growing on me a bit.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Granted, there’s an election next week and so she is in campaign mode. Would she have been this forceful outside of election time? I doubt it. But she’s gotten fiesty these past few days. During Sunday’s debate she pre-empted any critiques of her record (she’s the incumbent, obviously) by literally saying “sorry, not sorry”.

I never wanted her to be Premier, I never voted for her or her party, and I do not want her returned to power. But dammit, she actually ended up growing on me a bit.

Has her efforts to ingratiate herself with the French-speaking community also been part of campaign mode or does that pre-date this?

Nuremgard wrote:Has her efforts to ingratiate herself with the French-speaking community also been part of campaign mode or does that pre-date this?

I don’t recall that from my Ontario days, so I’m going to guess the former. Ridings in Ottawa and with large military populations must be particularly close in terms of polls.

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I don’t recall that from my Ontario days, so I’m going to guess the former. Ridings in Ottawa and with large military populations must be particularly close in terms of polls.

She's making Twitter postings in French too. Trying to harness Franco-Canadian votes.

Nuremgard wrote:She's making Twitter postings in French too. Trying to harness Franco-Canadian votes.

When you’re a party governing with a majority and you’re still going into an election with only 17% in the polls, it’s amazing the new things you learn. I hope she starts polling well with nerds; I can die happy if she tweets in Klingon before this election is wrapped up.

Jaslandia

Continental Commonwealths wrote:When you’re a party governing with a majority and you’re still going into an election with only 17% in the polls, it’s amazing the new things you learn. I hope she starts polling well with nerds; I can die happy if she tweets in Klingon before this election is wrapped up.

Don't pay too much attention to the polls. Theresa May did, arrogantly believing she'd win a crushing majority. She instead ended up with egg on her face, begging a bunch of Irish retards to prop up her government with a billion pound bribe.

Nuremgard wrote:Don't pay too much attention to the polls. Theresa May did, arrogantly believing she'd win a crushing majority. She instead ended up with egg on her face, begging a bunch of Irish retards to prop up her government with a billion pound bribe.

Oh, I’ve been burned by polls so many times that I consider them as reliable as the dregs from my tea. *suppresses trauma from 2012 Alberta election* I just added it as I know it influences their decisions.

Polls or no thought, she won’t be re-elected. Premier Doug Ford is going to wild.

Nuremgard wrote:Seriously, man, the sooner Trump drops dead or leaves office the better.

Yes, because Mike Pence is so much better, because that's who we'll get if Donald Trump leaves or dies before his term is up.

Just saying, I'm not trading a tornado for Armageddon.

Midasia, The West Country

Mercunova wrote:You would have lost us at some point. Look at your empire now.

Such is the nature of all empires! Wait until you see your own empire soon enough and we Brits - along with the Romans, Persians, Chinese and so on - will be able to collectively go "I told you so :)".

The West Country wrote:Such is the nature of all empires! Wait until you see your own empire soon enough and we Brits - along with the Romans, Persians, Chinese and so on - will be able to collectively go "I told you so :)".

I'll be saying I told you so too. People of my political convictions are already diametrically opposed to empires.

I only said you would have lost us anyway, I never said anything about the faulty belief that the American empire will last forever.

Don't be reading into people's words.

The West Country wrote:Such is the nature of all empires! Wait until you see your own empire soon enough and we Brits - along with the Romans, Persians, Chinese and so on - will be able to collectively go "I told you so :)".

Mind you, many Brits seem to view the Commonwealth as a quasi empire. A collection of countries full of people ready and willing to abase themselves before Mother Britain.

Mercunova

Mercunova wrote:I'll be saying I told you so too. People of my political convictions are already diametrically opposed to empires.

I only said you would have lost us anyway, I never said anything about the faulty belief that the American empire will last forever.

Don't be reading into people's words.

I was just making a supposition about "look at your empire now". I know you're not a particularly expansionist/nationalist Yank, I wasn't trying to say you said something you didn't nor did I assume that. There's no need to get defensive mate, it's all cricket.

Nuremgard wrote:Mind you, many Brits seem to view the Commonwealth as a quasi empire. A collection of countries full of people ready and willing to abase themselves before Mother Britain.

Yes I think we can speak on behalf of all Brits we can say that the Commonwealth is definitely a quasi-empire for us to exploit to our heart's content!!

The West Country wrote:Yes I think we can speak on behalf of all Brits we can say that the Commonwealth is definitely a quasi-empire for us to exploit to our heart's content!!

Did I say all Brits? I said many Brits. Including the government, since they thought they'd start up Empire 2.0 after Brexit.

Mercunova

Nuremgard wrote:Did I say all Brits? I said many Brits. Including the government, since they thought they'd start up Empire 2.0 after Brexit.

And that we shall, set sail HMS Victory!

Nuremgard wrote:Did I say all Brits? I said many Brits. Including the government, since they thought they'd start up Empire 2.0 after Brexit.

Just to be clear I've never heard or seen of your aforementioned view. Even within the realms of Brexit and Conservatives, the Commonwealth has been thought of as a profitable trade partner that shares our culture and history - not as a people to subjugate. I think the Commonwealth does a lot of good and although I'm not happy we're leaving the EU, I'm happy we're trading more (hopefully) with the CMW.

The West Country wrote:Just to be clear I've never heard or seen of your aforementioned view. Even within the realms of Brexit and Conservatives, the Commonwealth has been thought of as a profitable trade partner that shares our culture and history - not as a people to subjugate. I think the Commonwealth does a lot of good and although I'm not happy we're leaving the EU, I'm happy we're trading more (hopefully) with the CMW.

The Commonwealth shares our culture and values? Uh...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/14/uk-rows-back-on-plans-to-promote-gay-rights-at-commonwealth-summit

Yeah. They're just like us.

Nuremgard wrote:The Commonwealth shares our culture and values? Uh...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/14/uk-rows-back-on-plans-to-promote-gay-rights-at-commonwealth-summit

Yeah. They're just like us.

I'm not really fan of the Independent, their titles are very sensationalist and they're often quite bias. I think I could safely say that Anglicised countries do share our culture - yes. When I was talking of the wider block they share links in language, history and culture. Just because some countries are still developing and building their societies doesn't mean they're not worth our time, or related to us. We shouldn't force our Western ideals on them, they must develop naturally for them to succeed in the long term. It also our duty as their former overlords (I mean that in a bad sense) to pay back to them and help them get out of the rut that they're in - as we are partly responsible for it. As I said, the Commonwealth does a lot of good!

The West Country wrote:I'm not really fan of the Independent, their titles are very sensationalist and they're often quite bias. I think I could safely say that Anglicised countries do share our culture - yes. When I was talking of the wider block they share links in language, history and culture. Just because some countries are still developing and building their societies doesn't mean they're not worth our time, or related to us. We shouldn't force our Western ideals on them, they must develop naturally for them to succeed in the long term. It also our duty as their former overlords (I mean that in a bad sense) to pay back to them and help them get out of the rut that they're in - as we are partly responsible for it. As I said, the Commonwealth does a lot of good!

Britain cant even pay for itself, mate. How do you expect it to help build up the societies of its former colonies? Especially after Brexit.

Nuremgard wrote:Britain cant even pay for itself, mate. How do you expect it to help build up the societies of its former colonies? Especially after Brexit.

Trade would help with that, I'd imagine

The West Country wrote:Trade would help with that, I'd imagine

Uh huh. Because those countries will line up to trade with us.

Nuremgard wrote:Uh huh. Because those countries will line up to trade with us.

I mean, the same could be said for Scotland, but people would still trade with Scotland. Don't be so hard on it, the UK exports $412 billion USD a year and has a huge consumer base.

Sulania wrote:Yes, because Mike Pence is so much better, because that's who we'll get if Donald Trump leaves or dies before his term is up.

Just saying, I'm not trading a tornado for Armageddon.

At least Mike Pence is mentally stable, and HE has some respect for decency and the rule of law. I'd rather take a theocrat who plays by the rules, than a nutjob who makes it a personal goal to break every rule and norm he can find.

Continental Commonwealths

The West Country wrote:I mean, the same could be said for Scotland, but people would still trade with Scotland. Don't be so hard on it, the UK exports $412 billion USD a year and has a huge consumer base.

You're oddly optimistic. Thought you were a big Remainer. Have you had a Damascene conversion?

The West Country

The West Country wrote:I mean, the same could be said for Scotland, but people would still trade with Scotland. Don't be so hard on it, the UK exports $412 billion USD a year and has a huge consumer base.

haha we do so well, don't we? What a plucky little nation we are.

Brexit is going to kill us.

Jaslandia, The West Country

Nuremgard wrote:You're oddly optimistic. Thought you were a big Remainer. Have you had a Damascene conversion?

Unfallious wrote:haha we do so well, don't we? What a plucky little nation we are.

Brexit is going to kill us.

I'm an optimistic person

Unfallious wrote:haha we do so well, don't we? What a plucky little nation we are.

Brexit is going to kill us.

Every day, I feel more and more stupid for having voted Leave. I remember we were discussing Brexit in college once and I had to think twice before openly admitting to voting Leave. That's how idiotic I felt.

The West Country wrote:I'm an optimistic person

I'm a pessimist. When you're a pessimist, you're never disappointed. When something good happens, you're happily surprised but when things go bad, you knew it was going to turn out that way.

The West Country

The West Country wrote:I mean, the same could be said for Scotland, but people would still trade with Scotland. Don't be so hard on it, the UK exports $412 billion USD a year and has a huge consumer base.

And, quite frankly, from where else is my grandmama supposed to import her fancy china? You know, the ones with all the royals on them.

Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:Every day, I feel more and more stupid for having voted Leave. I remember we were discussing Brexit in college once and I had to think twice before openly admitting to voting Leave. That's how idiotic I felt.

I mean, I was annoyed at people who voted Leave, but tbh this has gotten to the point where even our most pessimistic projections are looking pretty peachy. I don't think anyone could've predicted just how badly the party that is 'Good for Business' would fvck up.

Jaslandia, The West Country

Continental Commonwealths wrote:And, quite frankly, from where else is my grandmama supposed to import her fancy china? You know, the ones with all the royals on them.

NOWHERE ELSE BUT BLIGHTY AND GOD BLESSA - I am convinced chinaware exports will balance the UK's books by 2020.

Nuremgard wrote:I'm a pessimist. When you're a pessimist, you're never disappointed. When something good happens, you're happily surprised but when things go bad, you knew it was going to turn out that way.

I'm an optimist because I just enjoy myself. If you're going through hell, keep bloody going.

Unfallious wrote:I mean, I was annoyed at people who voted Leave, but tbh this has gotten to the point where even our most pessimistic projections are looking pretty peachy. I don't think anyone could've predicted just how badly the party that is 'Good for Business' would fvck up.

My only consolation is that as a Scot, my vote was virtually meaningless since the English majority decided the vote.

The West Country wrote:NOWHERE ELSE BUT BLIGHTY AND GOD BLESSA - I am convinced chinaware exports will balance the UK's books by 2020.

I'm an optimist because I just enjoy myself. If you're going through hell, keep bloody going.

My sister is an eternal optimist too.

The West Country wrote:NOWHERE ELSE BUT BLIGHTY AND GOD BLESSA - I am convinced chinaware exports will balance the UK's books by 2020.

THE BUDGET WILL BALANCE ITSELF

The West Country

Jaslandia wrote:At least Mike Pence is mentally stable, and HE has some respect for decency and the rule of law. I'd rather take a theocrat who plays by the rules, than a nutjob who makes it a personal goal to break every rule and norm he can find.

And I'd rather not have a Theocrat. Period. End of Story.

The nutjob that gets half his stuff shut down because either congress or the courts say it's not good is better than the nutjob who knows how to get his crazy ideology into mainstream policy.

Besides, Trump has been great PR in ways I don't think Pence is.

Mercunova

Nuremgard wrote:My sister is an eternal optimist too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1epEtB0lVo

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