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Nuremgard wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/nation=auld_valyria/detail=factbook/id=804572

Meanwhile Nuremguard's sorccerers in Lordran

http://i.imgur.com/ONqgMof.gifv

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Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Kalaron wrote:Meanwhile Nuremguard's sorccerers in Lordran

http://i.imgur.com/ONqgMof.gifv

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That's how our nation does so well. We got magic, bitches.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Post self-deleted by Percyton.

Jaslandia wrote:The only thing that prevents me from wanting to live in Jaslandia is the climate; other than that, Jaslandia is pretty great in terms of governance, culture, history, etc. Then again, I may be biased. I think the NS nation I would most like to live in would be Percyton.

Thanks, Jas! You and anyone else in the CFN are always welcome to visit! Tell me ahead of time, and I'll make sure you have the best vacation ever!

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:<<< Thanks God I don't live there.

You know, now that Big Willy's joined us again, I actually wonder which nation is the more terrifying hellhole, the Commonwealths or al-Qarn?

Penguania And Antarctica

Apparently the trailer for the Last Jedi will drop at 12:30 EST today! Praise Jar Jar it's not sh*te like the Force Ewokens

Aghrabia, Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:

A disastrous recession is your dream?

Purely funding education

Mind you, VM's lived in [I]depression[/I] for ages #zeroeconomy

Yukona wrote:Apparently the trailer for the Last Jedi will drop at 12:30 EST today! Praise Jar Jar it's not sh*te like the Force Ewokens
TFA was not a bad movie... Or trailers

Minnesota Dakota

Vista Major wrote:TFA was not a bad movie... Or trailers

*shakes uncontrollably with fury*

Vista Major, Continental Commonwealths

Vista Major wrote:Purely funding education

Mind you, VM's lived in [I]depression[/I] for ages #zeroeconomy

You're fine now.

Vista Major

This moment when you are at the gas station and there is a guy with an original Wehrmacht motorcycle with sidecar filling up fuel. That's something you don't experience every day. :)

Ludania, Jaslandia, Baxten, Aghrabia, Tserra, The Cross And Davids Star, Yukona

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:This moment when you are at the gas station and there is a guy with an original Wehrmacht motorcycle with sidecar filling up fuel. That's something you don't experience every day. :)

The important question is: was the guy hot?

Continental Commonwealths, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:The important question is: was the guy hot?

Yes, cause that's the question everyone wants an answer to.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:Yes, cause that's the question everyone wants an answer to.

Well I want the answer to it.

Continental Commonwealths, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:The important question is: was the guy hot?

Well, depends if you like man in their 40s with a bald head or not. :P

Nuremgard

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Well, depends if you like man in their 40s with a bald head or not. :P

Ha, fair enough. Men in their 40s I don't mind. Bald ones though? Not so much.

Continental Commonwealths, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:Ha, fair enough. Men in their 40s I don't mind. Bald ones though? Not so much.

How are you btw ?

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:How are you btw ?

I'm alright, how are you?

Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:I'm alright, how are you?

I'm doing good. Was glad that I didn't need to get up early today. :)

Nuremgard

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:I'm doing good. Was glad that I didn't need to get up early today. :)

Always a good thing.

Penguania And Antarctica

I'm kind of bummed that today is my last weekday of Spring Break.

Penguania And Antarctica, Magnatronia

Einsiev wrote:I'm kind of bummed that today is my last weekday of Spring Break.

We just started Spring Break today, but I understand the feeling

Einsiev, Penguania And Antarctica

Einsiev wrote:I'm kind of bummed that today is my last weekday of Spring Break.

I'm back to college next Wednesday.

Einsiev, Penguania And Antarctica

hi!

Einsiev, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

The Vidnoye wrote:hi!

Hello. :)

How are you ?

Vista Major

Einsiev wrote:I'm kind of bummed that today is my last weekday of Spring Break.

You and me both pal

Einsiev, Vista Major

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Hello. :)

How are you ?

Really great, this thing with Romania is ":/" but whataya gonna do?

How about you?

Penguania And Antarctica

The Vidnoye wrote:Really great, this thing with Romania is ":/" but whataya gonna do?

How about you?

I'm doing good. Very good. :)

I have a country that permits slavery and people to die fighting in colosseums but it's a "left-leaning college state."

Jaslandia, The Vidnoye, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica

Hello people.

[spoiler=Today is April 14 and today are:]

Today is April 14 and today are:

- Air Force Reserve Birthday (United States)

- Ambedkar Jayanti (India)

- America Day (Honduras)

- Black Day (South Korea)

- Children with Alopecia Day

- Commemoration of Anfal Genocide Against the Kurds (Iraqi Kurdistan)

- Dhivehi Language Day (Maldives)

- Day of Mologa (Yaroslavl Oblast, Russia)

- Day of the Georgian language (Georgia)

- Dictionary Day

- Fast and Prayer Day (Liberia)

- Good Friday (Christianity)

- International Moment of Laughter Day

- Look up at the Sky Day

- National Dolphin Day (United States)

- National Ex Spouse Day (United States)

- National Pan American Day (United States)

- National Pecan Day (United States)

- National Reach as High as You Can Day (United States)

- N'Ko Alphabet Day (Mande speakers)

- Pan American Day

- Pathologists Assistant Day

- Songkran (Thailand)

- Takayama Spring Festival (Takayama, Gifu, Japan)

- Youth Day (Angola)

- World Marbles Day

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 43 BC – Battle of Forum Gallorum: Mark Antony, besieging Caesar's assassin Decimus Brutus in Mutina, defeats the forces of the consul Pansa, but is then immediately defeated by the army of the other consul, Aulus Hirtius.

- AD 69 – Vitellius, commander of the Rhine armies, defeats Emperor Otho in the Battle of Bedriacum and seizes the throne.

- AD 70 – Siege of Jerusalem: Titus, son of emperor Vespasian, surrounds the Jewish capital with four Roman legions.

- 193 – Septimius Severus is proclaimed Roman emperor by the army in Illyricum (in the Balkans).

- 966 – After his marriage to the Christian Doubravka of Bohemia, the pagan ruler of the Polans, Mieszko I, converts to Christianity, an event considered to be the founding of the Polish state.

- 1028 – Henry III, son of Conrad, is elected King of Germany.

- 1205 – Battle of Adrianople between Bulgarians and Crusaders.

- 1294 – Temür, grandson of Kublai, is elected Khagan of the Mongols and Emperor of the Yuan dynasty with the reigning titles Oljeitu and Chengzong.

- 1341 – Sack of Saluzzo (Italy) by Italian-Angevine troops under Manfred V, Marquess of Saluzzo.

- 1434 – The foundation stone of Nantes Cathedral, France is laid.

- 1471 – In England, the Yorkists under Edward IV defeat the Lancastrians under the Earl of Warwick at the Battle of Barnet; the Earl is killed and Edward IV resumes the throne.

- 1561 – A Celestial phenomenon is reported over Nuremberg, described as an aerial battle.

- 1639 – Imperial forces are defeated by the Swedes at the Battle of Chemnitz. The Swedish victory prolongs the Thirty Years' War and allows them to advance into Bohemia.

- 1699 – Khalsa: The Sikh religion was formalised as the Khalsa - the brotherhood of Warrior-Saints - by Guru Gobind Singh in northern India, in accordance with the Nanakshahi calendar.

- 1715 – The Yamasee War begins in South Carolina.

- 1775 – The first abolition society in North America is established. The Society for the Relief of Free Negroes Unlawfully Held in Bondage is organized in Philadelphia by Benjamin Franklin and Benjamin Rush.

- 1816 – Bussa, a slave in British-ruled Barbados, leads a slave rebellion and is killed. For this, he is remembered as the first national hero of Barbados.

- 1828 – Noah Webster copyrights the first edition of his dictionary.

- 1849 – Hungary declares itself independent of Austria with Lajos Kossuth as its leader.

- 1865 – U.S. President Abraham Lincoln is shot in Ford's Theatre by John Wilkes Booth; Lincoln died the next day.

- 1865 – U.S. Secretary of State William H. Seward and his family are attacked at home by Lewis Powell.

- 1881 – The Four Dead in Five Seconds Gunfight is fought in El Paso, Texas.

- 1890 – The Pan-American Union is founded by the First International Conference of American States in Washington, D.C.

- 1894 – The first ever commercial motion picture house opened in New York City using ten Kinetoscopes, a device for peep-show viewing of films.

- 1900 – The Exposition Universelle begins.

- 1906 – The Azusa Street Revival opens and will launch Pentecostalism as a worldwide movement.

- 1908 – Hauser Dam, a steel dam on the Missouri River in Montana, U.S., fails, sending a surge of water 25 to 30 feet (7.6 to 9.1 m) high downstream.

- 1909 – A massacre is organized by the Ottoman Empire against the Armenian population of Cilicia.

- 1912 – The British passenger liner RMS Titanic hits an iceberg in the North Atlantic at 23:40 (sinks morning of April 15th).

- 1927 – The first Volvo car premieres in Gothenburg, Sweden.

- 1928 – The Bremen, a German Junkers W 33 type aircraft, reaches Greenly Island, Canada - the first successful transatlantic aeroplane flight from east to west.

- 1931 – The Spanish Cortes deposes King Alfonso XIII and proclaims the Second Spanish Republic.

- 1939 – The Grapes of Wrath, by American author John Steinbeck is first published by the Viking Press.

- 1940 – World War II: Royal Marines land in Namsos, Norway in preparation for a larger force to arrive two days later.

- 1941 – World War II: German general Erwin Rommel attacks Tobruk.

- 1942 – Malta receives the George Cross for its gallantry. The George Cross was given by King George VI himself and is now an emblem on the Maltese national flag.

- 1944 – Bombay explosion: A massive explosion in Bombay harbor kills 300 and causes economic damage valued then at 20 million pounds.

- 1958 – The Soviet satellite Sputnik 2 falls from orbit after a mission duration of 162 days. This was the first spacecraft to carry a living animal, a female dog named Laika, who likely lived only a few hours.

- 1967 – Gnassingbé Eyadéma overthrows President of Togo Nicolas Grunitzky and installs himself as the new president, a title he would hold for the next 38 years.

- 1978 – Tbilisi Demonstrations: Thousands of Georgians demonstrate against Soviet attempts to change the constitutional status of the Georgian language.

- 1981 – STS-1: The first operational Space Shuttle, Columbia completes its first test flight.

- 1986 – In retaliation for the April 5 bombing in West Berlin in which two U.S. servicemen were killed, U.S. president Ronald Reagan orders major bombing raids against Libya, killing 60 people.

- 1986 – The heaviest hailstones ever recorded (1 kilogram (2.2 lb)) fall on the Gopalganj district of Bangladesh, killing 92.

- 1988 – The USS Samuel B. Roberts strikes a mine in the Persian Gulf during Operation Earnest Will.

- 1988 – In a United Nations ceremony in Geneva, Switzerland, the Soviet Union signs an agreement pledging to withdraw its troops from Afghanistan.

- 1991 – The Republic of Georgia introduces the post of President after its declaration of independence from the Soviet Union.

- 1994 – In a U.S. friendly fire incident during Operation Provide Comfort in northern Iraq, two United States Air Force aircraft mistakenly shoot-down two United States Army helicopters, killing 26 people.

- 1999 – NATO mistakenly bombs a convoy of ethnic Albanian refugees. Yugoslav officials say 75 people were killed.

- 1999 – A severe hailstorm strikes Sydney, Australia causing A$2.3 billion in insured damages, the most costly natural disaster in Australian history.

- 2002 – Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez returns to office two days after being ousted and arrested by the country's military.

- 2003 – The Human Genome Project is completed with 99% of the human genome sequenced to an accuracy of 99.99%.

- 2003 – U.S. troops in Baghdad capture Abu Abbas, leader of the Palestinian group that killed an American on the hijacked cruise liner the MS Achille Lauro in 1985.

- 2005 – The Oregon Supreme Court nullifies marriage licenses issued to gay couples a year earlier by Multnomah County.

- 2010 – Nearly 2,700 are killed in a magnitude 6.9 earthquake in the Yushu Tibetan Autonomous Prefecture.

- 2014 – Twin bomb blasts in Abuja, Nigeria, kill at least 75 people and injures 141 others.

- 2014 – Two hundred seventy-six schoolgirls are abducted by Boko Haram in Chibok, Nigeria.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1527 – Abraham Ortelius, Flemish cartographer and geographer

- 1629 – Christiaan Huygens, Dutch mathematician, astronomer, and physicist

- 1866 – Anne Sullivan, American educator

- 1868 – Peter Behrens, German architect, designed the AEG turbine factory

- 1882 – Moritz Schlick, German-Austrian physicist and philosopher

- 1891 – B. R. Ambedkar, Indian economist, jurist, and politician, 1st Indian Minister of Law and Justice

- 1892 – V. Gordon Childe, Australian archaeologist and philologist

- 1904 – John Gielgud, English actor, director, and producer

- 1912 – Robert Doisneau, French photographer and journalist

- 1921 – Thomas Schelling, American economist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1925 – Rod Steiger, American soldier and actor

- 1927 – Alan MacDiarmid, New Zealand chemist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1940 – Julie Christie, English actress and activist

- 1950 – Péter Esterházy, Hungarian author

- 1973 – Adrien Brody, American actor

- 1977 – Sarah Michelle Gellar, American actress and producer

- 1996 – Abigail Breslin, American actress

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Quote of the day

Death is not the greatest loss in life. The greatest loss is what dies inside us while we live.

- Norman Cousins -

Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.

Jaslandia, Luanmi, Aghrabia, Vista Major, Continental Commonwealths, Tserra, Percyton

Magnatronia wrote:You and me both pal

Amen, amen

Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:I have a country that permits forced labor and people to die fighting in gulags but it's a "left-leaning [redacted] state."

Sounds like the USSR to me. :P

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

The Vidnoye wrote:hi!

Buenos dias

Yukona wrote:*shakes uncontrollably with fury*

#PrequelsAppreciation

Minnesota Dakota wrote:You're fine now.

Thanks to socialism ;)

Aghrabia, The Vidnoye, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, Yukona

Do you think Discordium is a good name ?

Vista Major, Tserra, Pirate Kingdoms, Yukona

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Do you think Discordium is a good name ?

Yes. Yes, I do

#DiscordiumParty

Penguania And Antarctica

I am just realizing that I eliminated Administration funding a while ago

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=vista_major/detail=government

I've been trying to do that forever. *cries tears of socialist joy*

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=804735

Aghrabia, Penguania And Antarctica

Star Wars: Last of the Jedi's first trailer is out now! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZSKN312BXw

And if you missed it, the Battlefront 2 trailer has been leaked! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL3Deh-wOaM

Jaslandia

Sulania wrote:Sounds like the USSR to me. :P

My country is way cooler than the USSR.

Jaslandia

Slight mishap happened on IIwiki, I gotta replace the uploaded pictures, or rather, update them since the site went down.

The order of progression for my orders afterwards will look like this

Percyton

l

Ganan-131(Tse)

l

ITF tank.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Yukona wrote:Apparently the trailer for the Last Jedi will drop at 12:30 EST today! Praise Jar Jar it's not sh*te like the Force Ewokens

I liked Force Awakens

Jaslandia

Unfallious wrote:I liked Force Awakens

I did as well. It was flawed, sure, but I think it was a good movie.

Jaslandia, Aghrabia

Sulania wrote:I did as well. It was flawed, sure, but I think it was a good movie.

It was OK >.>

The flaws made it needle in my skin, TBH, and the ending made me groan.

Baxten wrote:We just started Spring Break today, but I understand the feeling

I had Spring Break a couple of weeks ago, so that feeling has long since passed for me.

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Do you think Discordium is a good name ?

I thought this 'meme' was dead. BEGONE, DEMON! THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!

Unfallious wrote:I liked Force Awakens

So did I. The action wasn't as intense as Rogue One, and I'm still not sure if I prefer Rogue or Force Awakens, but TFA had great action (though not as great as Rogue), great characters, and an enjoyable plot line. Yes, a lot of the plot was a rehash of A New Hope, but A New Hope was great, so I don't care.

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:

- 43 BC – Battle of Forum Gallorum: Mark Antony, besieging Caesar's assassin Decimus Brutus in Mutina, defeats the forces of the consul Pansa, but is then immediately defeated by the army of the other consul, Aulus Hirtius.

https://youtu.be/sOnEcQGZhcI

https://youtu.be/nIMGmbbx37A?t=5m9s

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:

- 1865 – U.S. President Abraham Lincoln is shot in Ford's Theatre by John Wilkes Booth; Lincoln died the next day.

- 1912 – The British passenger liner RMS Titanic hits an iceberg in the North Atlantic at 23:40 (sinks morning of April 15th).

Until now, I didn't even realize that the assassination of Lincoln and the Titanic hitting an iceberg (two of the most famous tragedies of all time) happened on the same day. And both had their resolution (Lincoln dying and the Titanic sinking) the very next day. April 14 and 15 must be really unlucky days.

Penguania And Antarctica

The UK strongly opposes the Romanian aggression towards Hungary. The UK stands for peace in Europe and supports the Hungarian people and their government requesting the Romanian leadership to calm their strong drawn political line.

[B]https://twitter.com/ukl_gov/status/852938326025936896[/B]

Latrovia wrote:The UK strongly opposes the Romanian aggression towards Hungary. The UK stands for peace in Europe and supports the Hungarian people and their government requesting the Romanian leadership to calm their strong drawn political line.

[B]https://twitter.com/ukl_gov/status/852938326025936896[/B]

But we just got done yesterday discussing how the fault lay more on Hungary for scaring the poor bugger, even if the didn't mean to?

Kalaron wrote:But we just got done yesterday discussing how the fault lay more on Hungary for scaring the poor bugger, even if the didn't mean to?

I wasn't here yesterday.

Kalaron wrote:But we just got done yesterday discussing how the fault lay more on Hungary for scaring the poor bugger, even if the didn't mean to?

it went up on the CG.

Latrovia wrote:I wasn't here yesterday.

You can read?

Like, it's what you do normally to respond.

Also, I wish to clarify that Romania is not a UK's Commonwealth or a UK territory.

Kalaron wrote:You can read?

Like, it's what you do normally to respond.

Yeah not my thing reading 100 or something posts.

Latrovia wrote:Also, I wish to clarify that Romania is not a UK's Commonwealth or a UK territory.

Audiastan has requested to become a commonwealth during your abscence

An Official Statement of the Hungarian Government on the issue od the Latrovian Embargo,

The Hungarian Government wishes to express its discontent over the embargo on Latrovia. Tensions between the USCS and the ITF are one thing but tensions between the ITF and the Commonwealth is not okay. Hugary sees no point for this and the obnly thing it will bring is the hardship of businesses, discrimination of nationality, political tensions and possibly war. Hungary enjoys a strong relationship in Europe with both the Kaiserreich and the UK. The Vezeto urges both parties to end the embargo and any conflict. Should mediation betweent the two nations be needed, Budapest is more than content to do the job.

Budapest Stands with the Kaiserreich and Latrovia because Budapest stands for peace!

Latrovia

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:Audiastan has requested to become a commonwealth during your abscence

I've received his message regarding that, but until the situation in Europe and the world is fixed, Audiastan can't join the United Kingdom.

Latrovia wrote:Yeah not my thing reading 100 or something posts.

Davids Star decided off of their own investigation, not the entire community.

The Vidnoye wrote:An Official Statement of the Hungarian Government on the issue od the Latrovian Embargo,

The Hungarian Government wishes to express its discontent over the embargo on Latrovia. Tensions between the USCS and the ITF are one thing but tensions between the ITF and the Commonwealth is not okay. Hugary sees no point for this and the obnly thing it will bring is the hardship of businesses, discrimination of nationality, political tensions and possibly war. Hungary enjoys a strong relationship in Europe with both the Kaiserreich and the UK. The Vezeto urges both parties to end the embargo and any conflict. Should mediation betweent the two nations be needed, Budapest is more than content to do the job.

Budapest Stands with the Kaiserreich and Latrovia because Budapest stands for peace!

The thing is that there is no embargo from our side to anyone. I have already made myself clear, despite how people don't wanna accept that.

The Vidnoye wrote:An Official Statement of the Hungarian Government on the issue od the Latrovian Embargo,

The Hungarian Government wishes to express its discontent over the embargo on Latrovia. Tensions between the USCS and the ITF are one thing but tensions between the ITF and the Commonwealth is not okay. Hugary sees no point for this and the obnly thing it will bring is the hardship of businesses, discrimination of nationality, political tensions and possibly war. Hungary enjoys a strong relationship in Europe with both the Kaiserreich and the UK. The Vezeto urges both parties to end the embargo and any conflict. Should mediation betweent the two nations be needed, Budapest is more than content to do the job.

Budapest Stands with the Kaiserreich and Latrovia because Budapest stands for peace!

I'm not sure why the origin of tension is what matters in a conflict such as this, but it's more related to how Latrovia attempted to initiate such an embargo -Yes Lat, I know, you only threatened it, your post on the discord saying that your parliament already considers them weapons of mass destruction and will paradoxically do multiple things with them means nothing in light of your newer statement- on my nation.

Frankly, the actual thing that tipped the Reich onto it was closer to Latrovia demanding things of the Reich under false pretenses.

Latrovia wrote:The thing is that there is no embargo from our side to anyone. I have already made myself clear, despite how people don't wanna accept that.

Latrovian Embargo as in the Embargo on the Latrovia :)

Latrovia

I'm happy to announce that [nation=short]Vista_Major[/nation] became a signatory of the Charter of the Organization for Humanity, Optimism, Peace and Empathy. (O-HOPE/HOPE)

If you are interested in O-HOPE then check out this factbook:

The Organization for Humanity, Optimism, Peace, and Empathy

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Percyton

Kalaron wrote:I'm not sure why the origin of tension is what matters in a conflict such as this, but it's more related to how Latrovia attempted to initiate such an embargo -Yes Lat, I know, you only threatened it, your post on the discord saying that your parliament already considers them weapons of mass destruction and will paradoxically do multiple things with them means nothing in light of your newer statement- on my nation.

Frankly, the actual thing that tipped the Reich onto it was closer to Latrovia demanding things of the Reich under false pretenses.

There have been no false pretences. Either you sell them weapons today, or tomorrow, the clear fact is that they will be armed with awesome tech soon enough. I called your weapons WMD, because I don't exactly know what else you have ever sold them before. Perhaps I was wrong, but I know for sure that the Reich and USCS in Europe are getting weaponised.

If not all, the last thing I want is a war in Europe and the UK trying to avoid both sides bullets.

I didn't attempt to initiate a regional embargo on your nation, nor it was going to be an international one. It was focused in Europe and particularly in your weapons. Not your carrots, not your tomatoes but your weapons.

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:I'm happy to announce that [nation=short]Vista_Major[/nation] became a signatory of the Charter of the Organization for Humanity, Optimism, Peace and Empathy. (O-HOPE/HOPE)

If you are interested in O-HOPE then check out this factbook:

The Organization for Humanity, Optimism, Peace, and Empathy

We are interested in joining as well. :)

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Latrovia wrote:There have been no false pretences. Either you sell them weapons today, or tomorrow, the clear fact is that they will be armed with awesome tech soon enough. I called your weapons WMD, because I don't exactly know what else you have ever sold them before. Perhaps I was wrong, but I know for sure that the Reich and USCS in Europe are getting weaponised.

If not all, the last thing I want is a war in Europe and the UK trying to avoid both sides bullets.

I didn't attempt to initiate a regional embargo on your nation, nor it was going to be an international one. It was focused in Europe and particularly in your weapons. Not your carrots, not your tomatoes but your weapons.

Actually, there has. You and Minn both said I participated in his civil war, much to the dismay and confusion of the Reichstag, since we didn't even realize a civil war was going down in Minnesota. I just remember being called fascist, with Minn later telling me that he wanted the USCS and UKL to go against the Reich for God only knows why. While that's much more Minn's fault than yours, it is still technically false pretense.

BTW, the most dangerous thing Kal has sold us is tanks and tank shells. And I thought (really, we all thought), that you embargoed everything of Kal's because he denied sale to CaDS due to his use of HP bullets and chemical weapons, even after his admittance into the UKL.

Latrovia wrote:There have been no false pretences. Either you sell them weapons today, or tomorrow, the clear fact is that they will be armed with awesome tech soon enough. I called your weapons WMD, because I don't exactly know what else you have ever sold them before. Perhaps I was wrong, but I know for sure that the Reich and USCS in Europe are getting weaponised.

If not all, the last thing I want is a war in Europe and the UK trying to avoid both sides bullets.

I didn't attempt to initiate a regional embargo on your nation, nor it was going to be an international one. It was focused in Europe and particularly in your weapons. Not your carrots, not your tomatoes but your weapons.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/193540344325996554/301653135695282176/Screenshot_2017-04-12-05-40-51.png

Well actually you said directly that it was my ammunition that was a WMD...and not only that but attempted to defend that by saying that the were WMDs by virtue of raising tensions.

Why you're attempting to backstep on that is something I don't quite know.

Secondly, I've stated many times before that Kalaron will not sell weapons of mass destruction and have been perhaps their largest criticizer, again, not sure why you're backing up to say I could have sold them that, but OK.

Lastly, "An embargo (from the Spanish embargo, meaning hindrance, obstruction, etc. in a general sense, a trading ban in trade terminology and literally "distraint" in juridic parlance) is the partial or complete prohibition of commerce and trade with a particular country or a group of countries...Embargoes can mean limiting or banning export or import, creating quotas for quantity, imposing special tolls, taxes, banning freight or transport vehicles"

I again point you to your post on the Discord, where you actively say it's happening.

Aghrabia

[B]REGIONAL SONG OF THE DAY

Day 45:[/B] Aphex Twin - "Avril 14th" (Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeLuQ6X2ixI)

Thank you for reading, papa bless

It isn't crazy, I promise...

Jaslandia, Magnatronia

Latrovia wrote:We are interested in joining as well. :)

I'll forward it to the other members.

Do you want to join as observer or signatory?

Jaslandia

Baxten wrote:Actually, there has. You and Minn both said I participated in his civil war, much to the dismay and confusion of the Reichstag, since we didn't even realize a civil war was going down in Minnesota. I just remember being called fascist, with Minn later telling me that he wanted the USCS and UKL to go against the Reich for God only knows why. While that's much more Minn's fault than yours, it is still technically false pretense.

BTW, the most dangerous thing Kal has sold us is tanks and tank shells. And I thought (really, we all thought), that you embargoed everything of Kal's because he denied sale to CaDS due to his use of HP bullets and chemical weapons, even after his admittance into the UKL.

I would deny selling any weapons on CaDS if I was Kal myself as well. But CaDS can not make decisions that affect the UK and most certainly I made clear yesterday and the day before and the day before why the UK is considering an embargo?

Regarding Minnies posts on Twitter, well I thought that there was going on a RP between you fellas and that she was just updating their walls.

Kalaron wrote:-snip-

Kalaron, you've translated it in that way. I just didn't have the will to correct you because, yeah that would be a waste of time. Also about the embargo, sanctions or whatever. If it did happen, I would have already made a post on Twitter about it. Everything that happens in the UK, is posted on our page. That is the only official portal to get your news.

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:I'll forward it to the other members.

Do you want to join as observer or signatory?

Signatory. The UK supports all of these.

Latrovia wrote:Signatory. The UK supports all of these.

Just wondering, but what do the others think of O-HOPE. No offense to CaDS, but I don't see him as the most peaceful of nations.

Penguania And Antarctica

The Cross And Davids Star is no longer a commonwealth of the UK.

Penguania And Antarctica

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:The Cross And Davids Star is no longer a commonwealth of the UK.

Oh alrighty then. Noted

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

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The Cross And Davids Star wrote:The Cross And Davids Star is no longer a commonwealth of the UK.

Baxten wrote:Just wondering, but what do the others think of O-HOPE. No offense to CaDS, but I don't see him as the most peaceful of nations.

You've got your answer right there. Unfortunately, CaDS stances do not fall in compliance with the ideals that the United Kingdom was founded with. Therefore, his declaration of independence is triggered and their UK rights will soon be stripped off from their leaders.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Baxten wrote:Actually, there has. You and Minn both said I participated in his civil war, much to the dismay and confusion of the Reichstag, since we didn't even realize a civil war was going down in Minnesota. I just remember being called fascist, with Minn later telling me that he wanted the USCS and UKL to go against the Reich for God only knows why. While that's much more Minn's fault than yours, it is still technically false pretense.

BTW, the most dangerous thing Kal has sold us is tanks and tank shells. And I thought (really, we all thought), that you embargoed everything of Kal's because he denied sale to CaDS due to his use of HP bullets and chemical weapons, even after his admittance into the UKL.

The false pretense was that, while demanding for the Reich to "demilitarize", he acted as if Kalaron had sold you it's most recent tank -Hence why he asked more recently, after development had been finished and not before, after the KI-86 and the KPS.

However, as it's newest product has been purchased -including exclusivity- by the USCS, his demand was wholly based on a completely false idea.

Latrovia wrote:I would deny selling any weapons on CaDS if I was Kal myself as well. But CaDS can not make decisions that affect the UK and most certainly I made clear yesterday and the day before and the day before why the UK is considering an embargo?

Regarding Minnies posts on Twitter, well I thought that there was going on a RP between you fellas and that she was just updating their walls.

Kalaron, you've translated it in that way. I just didn't have the will to correct you because, yeah that would be a waste of time. Also about the embargo, sanctions or whatever. If it did happen, I would have already made a post on Twitter about it. Everything that happens in the UK, is posted on our page. That is the only official portal to get your news.

Are you really going to say that I sold WMDs to TCADS despite making it clear that I wouldn't sell them at all and writing whole IIwiki pages on all my weapons?

Are you forgetting that it was Audistan who wrote posts being eager to sell them?

Are you just off your rocker?

TCADs made multiple posts about having them and you choose to allow him to keep them, suddenly attempting to say that another country -one sworn to creating the most painless weapons too-

provided them is literally the most Trumpian thing you may ever have said because it's whole goal is to take blame off your nation when literally everyone sees it.

I'm honestly dumb-founded, this is a literal defense in insanity.

Baxten wrote:Just wondering, but what do the others think of O-HOPE. No offense to CaDS, but I don't see him as the most peaceful of nations.

None taken :)

Baxten wrote:Just wondering, but what do the others think of O-HOPE. No offense to CaDS, but I don't see him as the most peaceful of nations.

I like O-HOPE, hence why I'm an observer member, but I don't think TCaDS would be a good fit for an organization like O-HOPE, at least as a signatory; if you're an observer, you can be as peaceful or militaristic as you want, as long as you agree to respect the neutrality of O-HOPE signatories.

Continental Commonwealths, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Kalaron wrote:

Are you really going to say that I sold WMDs to TCADS despite making it clear that I wouldn't sell them at all and writing whole IIwiki pages on all my weapons?

Are you forgetting that it was Audistan who wrote posts being eager to sell them?

Are you just off your rocker?

TCADs made multiple posts about having them and you choose to allow him to keep them, suddenly attempting to say that another country -one sworn to creating the most painless weapons too-

provided them is literally the most Trumpian thing you may ever have said because it's whole goal is to take blame off your nation when literally everyone sees it.

I'm honestly dumb-founded, this is a literal defense in insanity.

No, he's not. TCDS has been producing, stockpiling, and selling the nerve gas Sarin for years prior before joining the UK. Latrovia has only recently been informed of these actions.

Kalaron wrote:-snip-

Sorry man, I just don't waste all my time in the game you know. I've learned most of these things by you guys, rather than reading walls of text etc.

Call it negligence, call it stupidity, call it not caring enough, but I did not know all of this stuff. Thus our relations just ended.

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Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Continental Commonwealths

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:No, he's not. TCDS has been producing, stockpiling, and selling the nerve gas Sarin for years prior before joining the UK. Latrovia has only recently been informed of these actions.

All right, I admitted it, TCDS was born from a terrorist group, i guess we never grown out of it.

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:No, he's not. TCDS has been producing, stockpiling, and selling the nerve gas Sarin for years prior before joining the UK. Latrovia has only recently been informed of these actions.

I mean, considering that Latrovia has taken information off the RMB before, and that he's also taken information out of Telegram, I think we can safely say that the nation knew a little while ago.

Latrovia wrote:Sorry man, I just don't waste all my time in the game you know. I've learned most of these things by you guys, rather than reading walls of text etc.

Call it negligence, call it stupidity, call it not caring enough, but I did not know all of this stuff. Thus our relations just ended.

I mean, I'm going to call it backtracking into absurdity.

After all, a two minute search brings up this piece of the puzzle (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/193540344325996554/302509815672995851/unknown.png) and low-and-behold the UKL was already informed that Kalaron didn't sell WMDs, further pulling your argument of "I just didn't see" apart since you even responded!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/193540344325996554/302510276404838401/unknown.png

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:All right, I admitted it, TCDS was born from a terrorist group, i guess we never grown out of it.

That's what I thought lol.

Don't know you remember, but I asked "weren't you a terrorist group", to which you denied.

Baxten wrote:That's what I thought lol.

Don't know you remember, but I asked "weren't you a terrorist group", to which you denied.

I did, and boy did i wish it'd be true.

Baxten

Hey so yeah, I think this would be a very good idea for everyone involved so as to avoid the actual problems we have right now.

First off, for RP canon of your sole nation (Only your own nation is involved, so government structure, leader name, social policies, blah blah blah), that can be done in a factbook. Since some people are using twitter to update on events going on, that could be used to as well.

However, for RP canon that affects multiple nations, perhaps we should contain that to the actual RP General thread and RP Region. So if Lat embargoes Kal, it would be placed there. We don't have the constant nonsense of bringing in he-said/she-said arguments, because the actual events occur there. People can record the events in their factbooks or on their twitter or in their bloody diary, but they're only canon if they happen in the General Thread or Region. Again, this way we avoid the potential for events that could have happened, or did happen but since it was never posted they redacted it, or so on and so forth. Mobilizing troops, establishing relations, milking the Kaizer's cat, all of that should be done in the general thread so we're all aware of it and we can all see it. We don't have to rely on screenshots and the like, it's simply there.

With the secret communication between nations, done through telegrams. However, any actions done has to be recorded in the general thread in order to have occurred. So there wouldn't be so-and-so getting assassinated but only a select few people know about it or blah blah blah. And then, when it comes to closed doors communication where you don't want anyone else to know, or if it's just more convenient, just post "Nation X and Nation Y leaders met today and decided..." with all the primary talking being however you did it, with just the outcome and major events being summarized in the post.

Finally, with multi-player nations like the Reich or the Commonwealth, they can be treated like singular nations and don't need to be handled the same way as the aforementioned. They can act however they domestically please, similar to how someone can run their nation as they please, in factbooks and twitter and however else, and can communicate with each other however they want unless it's of General RP significance.

This is just a thought, and frankly I'm open to suggestions about this system. I'm mostly just annoyed at some people taking the Discord as a place to post RP content, but then its redacted. Then others saying "look at my Twitter." I just want things to be more cleaner than they are, since for some reason we can't agree on that, and to be fair it doesn't seem that the rules for Region RP and where it takes place are actually laid out or at the very least few pay attention to them.

Jaslandia, Baxten, Aghrabia, Kalaron, Tserra, The Cross And Davids Star, Magnatronia

Kalaron wrote:I mean, considering that Latrovia has taken information off the RMB before, and that he's also taken information out of Telegram, I think we can safely say that the nation knew a little while ago.

I mean, I'm going to call it backtracking into absurdity.

After all, a two minute search brings up this piece of the puzzle (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/193540344325996554/302509815672995851/unknown.png) and low-and-behold the UKL was already informed that Kalaron didn't sell WMDs, further pulling your argument of "I just didn't see" apart since you even responded!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/193540344325996554/302510276404838401/unknown.png

Oh boy. Talking about blowing some esteem up right here. The fact that I don't always like to check every single post does not mean that I read none of them. Either it's weapons or WMD, the point is the same. Instability in Europe, uncertainty for European Leaders and further escalation between the Germans and the Russians.

Latrovia wrote:Either it's weapons or WMD, the point is the same.

Just going to say, WMD's and Weapons are two very different things and I hope the UK treats them relatively differently.

I'd be kind of a little worried if the DPRK was buying weapons, but I wouldn't sweat it too much because they're a country. I don't want them to have those, but they'd get them some way some how. The DPRK gets WMDs like a nuke, then I'd be freaking terrified.

... Oh wait... the DPRK is a classified nuclear nation... I wonder how the weather is in Antarctica.

Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Kalaron, Yukona

Latrovia wrote:Oh boy. Talking about blowing some esteem up right here. The fact that I don't always like to check every single post does not mean that I read none of them. Either it's weapons or WMD, the point is the same. Instability in Europe, uncertainty for European Leaders and further escalation between the Germans and the Russians.

Actually, the Germans and Russians have been getting along much more since this all went down, mainly because of Kal selling weapons to the USCS.

Just wanna put that out there.

Kalaron, Yukona

Sulania wrote:Just going to say, WMD's and Weapons are two very different things and I hope the UK treats them relatively differently.

I'd be kind of a little worried if the DPRK was buying weapons, but I wouldn't sweat it too much because they're a country. I don't want them to have those, but they'd get them some way some how. The DPRK gets WMDs like a nuke, then I'd be freaking terrified.

... Oh wait... the DPRK is a classified nuclear nation... I wonder how the weather is in Antarctica.

I know the difference between those two. My point was this:

Latrovia wrote:Instability in Europe, uncertainty for European Leaders and further escalation between the Germans and the Russians.

Baxten wrote:Actually, the Germans and Russians have been getting along much more since this all went down, mainly because of Kal selling weapons to the USCS.

Just wanna put that out there.

Well at least the UK brought a positive outcome in the Ger-Russian relations.

Latrovia wrote:Well at least the UK brought a positive outcome in the Ger-Russian relations.

Um, not in the slightest. It was Kal that did it. Irony at it's finest, but relations increased between us with weapons sales.

Yukona

Baxten wrote:Um, not in the slightest. It was Kal that did it. Irony at it's finest, but relations increased between us with weapons sales.

Oh, indeed. :)

Latrovia wrote:Oh, indeed. :)

Evidence?

Latrovia wrote:Oh, indeed. :)

Well as long as Europe is safe, I am happy with it. :)

Yukona

Baxten wrote:Um, not in the slightest. It was Kal that did it. Irony at it's finest, but relations increased between us with weapons sales.

I'm glad to see my armaments have the effect I wish.

Latrovia wrote:Oh boy. Talking about blowing some esteem up right here. The fact that I don't always like to check every single post does not mean that I read none of them. Either it's weapons or WMD, the point is the same. Instability in Europe, uncertainty for European Leaders and further escalation between the Germans and the Russians.

Except not.

WMDs mean that the destruction of a nation can come at any moment and tensions are raised over that fear, a strong military means that both sides could fight to a draw while their ambassadors attempt to solve it in a way that doesn't involve the desolation of the continent. Arguing that either is a synonym for the other is a ridiculous thing. This is of course ignoring that you're citing "Instability in Europe, uncertainty for European Leaders and further escalation between the Germans and the Russians" without any basis, though. As I said yesterday, having a member of both alliances actually gives a place that is wholly safe and wholly neutral, Kalaron's interests lie in customers, not a dead world.

Add to that the fact that Kalaron doesn't sell to nations that commit war-crimes and you get nations that refuse to obtain nukes lest Kalaron simply sell to the other side.

Yukona

Latrovia wrote:Well as long as Europe is safe, I am happy with it. :)

Europe's been safe for a while. The ITF values both money and lives, and war is detrimental to both. An agressive war I'm sure would upset the proletariet, and I'm sure Commonwealthers wouldn't want a war, so we're all fine.

Baxten wrote:Europe's been safe for a while. The ITF values both money and lives, and war is detrimental to both. An agressive war I'm sure would upset the proletariet, and I'm sure Commonwealthers wouldn't want a war, so we're all fine.

Thank God we are then. The UK is more than happy to hear news such these!

"Meanwhile, somewhere in Europe..."

https://vimeo.com/213259930

Latrovia wrote:Thank God we are then. The UK is more than happy to hear news such these!

However, I'd hardly call this "dedication to peace", saying that I don't quite know what threats we approached you with.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ukl_gov/status/852939824336175104

Baxten wrote:However, I'd hardly call this "dedication to peace", saying that I don't quite know what threats we approached you with.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ukl_gov/status/852939824336175104

It was in regard with our two days ago TG's

Latrovia wrote:It was in regard with our two days ago TG's

Telling you about an embargo and what it entails, followed by you telling me "We control almost all European trade" isn't threatning, at least to me. Now, that's just how I took it.

Baxten wrote:Telling you about an embargo and what it entails, followed by you telling me "We control almost all European trade" isn't threatning, at least to me. Now, that's just how I took it.

That wasn't just it, but I am not going to escalate things more.

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