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Aldaur wrote:Civics needs to be it's own permanent class imo.

In many cases it is. I had to take a Civics class in middle school, and now I have to take and pass a U.S. Government class to graduate high school. Though, every school district is different, and some areas may have inferior or nonexistent civics/U.S. government classes.

This article goes into more detail on the state of civics education/requirements in the U.S.: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/12/circle-study-finds-most-s_n_1959522.html

Nuremgard, Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:In many cases it is. I had to take a Civics class in middle school, and now I have to take and pass a U.S. Government class to graduate high school. Though, every school district is different, and some areas may have inferior or nonexistent civics/U.S. government classes.

This article goes into more detail on the state of civics education/requirements in the U.S.: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/12/circle-study-finds-most-s_n_1959522.html

I remember my high school civics class. There was only 9 students, and that was myself included. And that was the only civics class in the school, a school of over a 1,000. It's gotten to the point that the US History Teachers actually dedicate a full month, November, to just teaching about the of the US government. Reason being that US History is a mandatory class we all must take, unlike civics.

Jaslandia, Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:As you should. They are 'the Scottish Twins' after all.

I get why people would advocate stuff like that, but considering how such tests have been used in America's past to discriminate against minority voters like African-Americans (since African-American schools were underfunded and thus of inferior quality), many Americans (myself included) are leery of such proposals due to the potential that they could be used as tools of discrimination.

I personally never recieved a civics education because I went to an international charter school, so they didn't teach that. I learned all my knowledge on my own. So even if they are in underfunded schools, it isn't an excuse. This isn't coming from some notion that I don't know what poor people go through either. Immigrants come to this country growing up in worse conditions than many "poor" American-born citizens and attend the same schools as the Americans in the most underfunded areas do. Yet, they can pass the citizenship test and know that knowledge. The problem is that people don't want to learn. Even a subpar introduction in an under funded school is better than nothing. And with the constant news, easy access to computers at schools, at libraries, in Apple stores or on your phone, it isn't hard to get the information. Not to mention that practically everyone has a smart phone these days, so not being able to attain the information is bullsh!t. Especially when I've seen dirt poor kids in Africa have an ipad and an iphone.

Jaslandia

Sulania wrote:I remember my high school civics class. There was only 9 students, and that was myself included. And that was the only civics class in the school, a school of over a 1,000. It's gotten to the point that the US History Teachers actually dedicate a full month, November, to just teaching about the of the US government. Reason being that US History is a mandatory class we all must take, unlike civics.

That's just wrong. We need to focus on Citizen Education, not just professional or academic education.

Jaslandia

Aldaur wrote:That's just wrong. We need to focus on Citizen Education, not just professional or academic education.

And I also forgot JROTC. Colonel does a relatively good job at teaching his little cadets about the US government.

Aldaur

Sulania wrote:And I also forgot JROTC. Colonel does a relatively good job at teaching his little cadets about the US government.

That's good! The classroom should be run more like rotc imo.

Sulania wrote:I remember my high school civics class. There was only 9 students, and that was myself included. And that was the only civics class in the school, a school of over a 1,000. It's gotten to the point that the US History Teachers actually dedicate a full month, November, to just teaching about the of the US government. Reason being that US History is a mandatory class we all must take, unlike civics.

Interesting. At my school, you're required to take both a U.S. History class (and pass either a U.S History EOC (End-of-Course) test or the AP U.S. History exam), and a U.S. Government class in order to graduate.

Aldaur wrote:That's good! The classroom should be run more like rotc imo.

"What is 2 + 2?"

"Umm... 6?"

"THAT IS THE MOST WRONG ANSWER I HAVE EVER HEARD, PRIVATE! DO YOU HAVE SH*T IN YOUR BRAIN, OR WERE YOU JUST BORN AS DUMB AS A BOX OF ROCKS? I CANNOT BELIEVE THE CLASS OF IDIOTS THAT I HAVE TO TEACH MATH TO! DROP AND GIVE ME 20!"

Aldaur wrote:I personally never recieved a civics education because I went to an international charter school, so they didn't teach that. I learned all my knowledge on my own. So even if they are in underfunded schools, it isn't an excuse. This isn't coming from some notion that I don't know what poor people go through either. Immigrants come to this country growing up in worse conditions than many "poor" American-born citizens and attend the same schools as the Americans in the most underfunded areas do. Yet, they can pass the citizenship test and know that knowledge. The problem is that people don't want to learn. Even a subpar introduction in an under funded school is better than nothing. And with the constant news, easy access to computers at schools, at libraries, in Apple stores or on your phone, it isn't hard to get the information. Not to mention that practically everyone has a smart phone these days, so not being able to attain the information is bullsh!t. Especially when I've seen dirt poor kids in Africa have an ipad and an iphone.

Except, it's not so much the information is unattainable, but students also need to be interested enough to learn about this stuff. Good teachers and good funding could help with that, but if you don't have those two things, or if you don't have a civics program at all, then it becomes much more difficult to get students interested in civics and government. Students may be able to look up all the information on civics they need on the Internet, but what would motivate them to do so beside a formal class?

Nuremgard, Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:*totally reading and hearing this in a Scottish accent*

Donald: Of coorse! Why wooldnae ye?

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Percyton

The Scottish Twins wrote:Donald: Of coorse! Why wooldnae ye?

Not coorse. Just course.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Jaslandia wrote:Interesting. At my school, you're required to take both a U.S. History class (and pass either a U.S History EOC (End-of-Course) test or the AP U.S. History exam), and a U.S. Government class in order to graduate.

"What is 2 + 2?"

"Umm... 6?"

"THAT IS THE MOST WRONG ANSWER I HAVE EVER HEARD, PRIVATE! DO YOU HAVE SH*T IN YOUR BRAIN, OR WERE YOU JUST BORN AS DUMB AS A BOX OF ROCKS? I CANNOT BELIEVE THE CLASS OF IDIOTS THAT I HAVE TO TEACH MATH TO! DROP AND GIVE ME 20!"

Except, it's not so much the information is unattainable, but students also need to be interested enough to learn about this stuff. Good teachers and good funding could help with that, but if you don't have those two things, or if you don't have a civics program at all, then it becomes much more difficult to get students interested in civics and government. Students may be able to look up all the information on civics they need on the Internet, but what would motivate them to do so beside a formal class?

That is not how rotc is at all lol We pride ourselves on professionalism :p

The motivation is if they want to vote, they must learn the information. It would be ideal for them to have a good and well funded civics class, but even without it, it should be fine.

Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:Not coorse. Just course.

Donald: Who are ye tae be tellin' us how tae spick? I ooght tae...

Douglas: Now, now, Donnie. Nae need tae be hostile. I'm sorry about mah brother. Anyway, it's probably jist a difference in dialect. We've worked all over Scotland an' hae heard lots of different accents, an' since we've bin workin' oan Sodor so long, we've also picked up parts of a couple other accents as well. Thes means our dialect is somewhat unique.

Donald: Aye.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

The Scottish Twins wrote:We've worked all over Scotland.

Did ye aye?

Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Aldaur wrote:That is not how rotc is at all lol We pride ourselves on professionalism :p

The motivation is if they want to vote, they must learn the information. It would be ideal for them to have a good and well funded civics class, but even without it, it should be fine.

So, this isn't what ROTC looks like?

https://youtu.be/5TNhS81w4bM?t=23s

*insert smiley face with tongue sticking out emoticon here*

Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica

So I have reconsidered my stance on privatizing government functions. I still think that the government sucks at running things (see the DMV), wastes a lot (see Pentagon) and has unnecessary bureaucracy (see EPA), but that isn't because government is always the problem. It is just that it needs to be modernized and made more citizen-focused. I believe we should work to make ouf governments better rather than privatizing them, because while private companies are more efficient, they are still beholden to private interests and the profit motive. While that can be good at times, it actually requires more money being spent on constant oversight, regulation and enforcement by the government anyway. There is also the matter that there are many aspects that the government runs well and often goes under appreciated. In addition, it turns out that one of the main reasons that private companies do better is because they hire more people, whereas government offices are typically understaffed and don't have as much talent.

I found a great article that explains how to make our government better by learning from the many different techniques from various countries! It is a little lengthy but a well worth it read!

http://www.mckinsey.com/industries/public-sector/our-insights/government-by-design-four-principles-for-a-better-public-sector

It doesn't say it in this link, but another thing that woild greatly help the US government is by adopting the French National Academy for Administration. This is the most elitist school in France, as it is made up of the best of the best from the best graduate schools and upon graduating from the academy, they are admitted into mid to senior level bureaucratic positions. This ensures proper leadership and makes the process much more open, transparent, technocratic and fair.

The United Providences Of Perland

Jaslandia wrote:So, this isn't what ROTC looks like?

https://youtu.be/5TNhS81w4bM?t=23s

*insert smiley face with tongue sticking out emoticon here*

Only during Field Training haha

Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:Did ye aye?

Donald: Aye, we did. Our favorite place was Glasgee, as 'at was th' headquarters of th' Caledonian Railway, but we worked in lots of other places too.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

The Scottish Twins wrote:Donald: Aye, we did. Our favorite place was Glasgee, as 'at was th' headquarters of th' Caledonian Railway, but we worked in lots of other places too.

'Moan Glesga!

Penguania And Antarctica

I'm so excited!

https://youtu.be/b_NcYIfcVTA

#Underwood4Prez

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Au Minbo, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica

Aldaur wrote:I'm so excited!

https://youtu.be/b_NcYIfcVTA

#Underwood4Prez

Just passin through the RMB again, jesus that was a dark trailer. And why did they have to make us wait so long for President Underwood??? I can't wait :)

In other news, I present to the region a video I found.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI6H-yeXcjo&feature=youtu.be

Jaslandia, Aldaur, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica

Au Minbo wrote:Just passin through the RMB again, jesus that was a dark trailer. And why did they have to make us wait so long for President Underwood??? I can't wait :)

In other news, I present to the region a video I found.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI6H-yeXcjo&feature=youtu.be

Ik.....it's like 4 months away.... 😣🔫

Oelesa, The United Providences Of Perland

I am thinking about applying in the Fifth NS World Fair on region's behalf.

Jaslandia, Aldaur, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

Hello friends. Wish you all a nice day. Love you all. <3

[spoiler=Today are:]

Today are:

- Babinden (Bulgaria, Serbia)

- Birthday of Princess Ingrid Alexandra (Norway)

- Errol Barrow Day (Barbados)

- Flag Day (Quebec, Canada)

- Grandmother's Day (Poland)

- International Sweatpants Day

- Lady of Altagracia Day (Dominican Republic)

- National Granola Bar Day (United States)

- National Hugging Day (United States)

- Soup Swap Day

- Squirrel Appreciation Day

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 763 – The Battle of Bakhamra between Alids and Abbasids near Kufa ends in a decisive Abbasid victory.

- 1525 – The Swiss Anabaptist Movement is founded when Conrad Grebel, Felix Manz, George Blaurock, and about a dozen others baptize each other in the home of Manz's mother in Zürich, breaking a thousand-year tradition of church-state union.

- 1535 – Following the Affair of the Placards, French Protestants are burned at the stake in front of the Cathedral of Notre Dame de Paris

- 1720 – Sweden and Prussia sign the Treaty of Stockholm.

- 1749 – The Teatro Filarmonico in Verona is destroyed by fire. It is rebuilt in 1754.

- 1774 – Abdul Hamid I became Sultan of the Ottoman Empire and Caliph of Islam.

- 1789 – The first American novel, The Power of Sympathy or the Triumph of Nature Founded in Truth, is printed in Boston.

- 1793 – After being found guilty of treason by the French National Convention, Louis XVI of France is executed by guillotine.

- 1861 – American Civil War: Jefferson Davis resigns from the United States Senate.

- 1893 – The Tati Concessions Land, formerly part of Matabeleland, is formally annexed to the Bechuanaland Protectorate, now Botswana.

- 1899 – Opel builds its first automobile.

- 1908 – New York City passes the Sullivan Ordinance, making it illegal for women to smoke in public, only to have the measure vetoed by the mayor.

- 1911 – The first Monte Carlo Rally takes place.

- 1915 – Kiwanis International is founded in Detroit.

- 1919 – Meeting of the First Dáil Éireann in the Mansion House Dublin. Sinn Féin adopts Ireland's first constitution. The first engagement of the Irish War of Independence, the Soloheadbeg ambush, County Tipperary.

- 1925 – Albania declares itself a republic.

- 1931 – Sir Isaac Isaacs is sworn in as the first Australian-born Governor-General of Australia.

- 1941 – Sparked by the murder of a German officer in Bucharest, Romania, the day before, members of the Iron Guard engaged in a rebellion and pogrom killing 125 Jews.

- 1948 – The Flag of Quebec is adopted and flown for the first time over the National Assembly of Quebec. The day is marked annually as Québec Flag Day.

- 1950 – American lawyer and government official Alger Hiss is convicted of perjury.

- 1954 – The first nuclear-powered submarine, the USS Nautilus, is launched in Groton, Connecticut by Mamie Eisenhower, the First Lady of the United States.

- 1960 – Little Joe 1B, a Mercury spacecraft, lifts off from Wallops Island, Virginia with Miss Sam, a female rhesus monkey on board.

- 1961 – Four hundred thirty-five workers are buried alive when a mine in Coalbrook, Free State, South Africa collapses.

- 1968 – A B-52 bomber crashes near Thule Air Base, contaminating the area after its nuclear payload ruptures. One of the four bombs remains unaccounted for after the cleanup operation is complete.

- 1971 – The current Emley Moor transmitting station, the tallest free-standing structure in the United Kingdom, begins transmitting UHF broadcasts.

- 1976 – Commercial service of Concorde begins with the London-Bahrain and Paris-Rio routes.

- 1981 – Production of the iconic DeLorean DMC-12 sports car begins in Dunmurry, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom.

- 1997 – The U.S. House of Representatives votes 395–28 to reprimand Newt Gingrich for ethics violations, making him the first Speaker of the House to be so disciplined.

- 1999 – War on Drugs: In one of the largest drug busts in American history, the United States Coast Guard intercepts a ship with over 4,300 kilograms (9,500 lb) of cocaine on board.

- 2004 – NASA's MER-A (the Mars Rover Spirit) ceases communication with mission control. The problem lies in the management of its flash memory and is fixed remotely from Earth on February 6.

- 2005 – In Belmopan, Belize, the unrest over the government's new taxes erupts into riots.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1815 – Horace Wells, American dentist

- 1824 – Stonewall Jackson, American general

- 1867 – Ludwig Thoma, German paramedic and author

- 1905 – Christian Dior, French fashion designer, founded Christian Dior S.A.

- 1912 – Konrad Emil Bloch, German-American biochemist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1922 – Paul Scofield, English actor

- 1922 – Telly Savalas, American actor

- 1940 – Jack Nicklaus, American golfer and sportscaster

- 1941 – Richie Havens, American singer-songwriter and guitarist

- 1941 – Plácido Domingo, Spanish tenor and conductor

- 1950 – Billy Ocean, Trinidadian-English singer-songwriter

- 1953 – Paul Allen, American businessman and philanthropist, co-founded Microsoft

- 1954 – Thomas de Maizière, German politician, Federal Minister of the Interior

- 1955 – Jeff Koons, American painter and sculptor

- 1963 – Hakeem Olajuwon, Nigerian-American basketball player

- 1963 – Detlef Schrempf, German basketball player and coach

- 1981 – Michel Teló, Brazilian singer-songwriter

- 1982 – Simon Rolfes, German footballer

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- Dylan Moran -

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Jaslandia, Unfallious, Continental Commonwealths, Tserra, The United Providences Of Perland

Nuremgard my Dad just got back from the Clyde and has brought a Scottish note why does Robert Bruce look so angry?

Nuremgard, The United Providences Of Perland

Latrovia wrote:I am thinking about applying in the Fifth NS World Fair on region's behalf.

Our* regions behalf.

Aldaur

Latrovia wrote:I am thinking about applying in the Fifth NS World Fair on region's behalf.

Ooo yes.

Latrovia wrote:Our* regions behalf.

We need a vote

Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Vista Major wrote:We need a vote

Voted are always good.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

I have two billion people now yey!

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:I have two billion people now yey!

Most congratulations!

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

Vista Major wrote:Most congratulations!

I'm getting old.

Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:I'm getting old.

Wait till you reach 5b

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

The Reform Commission shall be meeting today on the Discord channel after 3pm EST. The Agenda is posted below:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FuDsQJFEY9zjO7utVRhuA0JWywYph5l9_xHm9tZh31o/edit?usp=sharing

Latrovia wrote:I am thinking about applying in the Fifth NS World Fair on region's behalf.

Yay

Jaslandia

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:I'm getting old.

Vista Major wrote:Wait till you reach 5b

13 billion, bitch.

Jaslandia, Aldaur, Vista Major, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

So Int gave me one set of requests on the tank, it would really help if others did too >.>

I'm looking for suggestions on the Main Cannon, secondary armourment, engine type (turbine or what have you) Electronic Counter Measures and Electronic Warfare Modules.

Just...suggest most anything really.

And yes, a Penguanian model with a heated compartment for a "car dispenser" will be made.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Kalaron wrote:So Int gave me one set of requests on the tank, it would really help if others did too >.>

I'm looking for suggestions on the Main Cannon, secondary armourment, engine type (turbine or what have you) Electronic Counter Measures and Electronic Warfare Modules.

Just...suggest most anything really.

And yes, a Penguanian model with a heated compartment for a "car dispenser" will be made.

Fvck!

Why do does my phone hate cats?

Continental Commonwealths, Penguania And Antarctica

Kalaron wrote:Fvck!

Why do does my phone hate cats?

I'm about to throw myself into the railroad line if my phone keeps screwing with me.

Penguania And Antarctica

Latrovia wrote:I am thinking about applying in the Fifth NS World Fair on region's behalf.

We should probably have a vote just in case, but I would support that.

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:

- 1525 – The Swiss Anabaptist Movement is founded when Conrad Grebel, Felix Manz, George Blaurock, and about a dozen others baptize each other in the home of Manz's mother in Zürich, breaking a thousand-year tradition of church-state union.

So, one of the founders of the Anabaptist movement still lived with his mamma? I smell sitcom potential.

Manz's Mother: *yells from upstairs off-screen* FELIX! WHAT'S WITH ALL THE RUCKUS DOWN THERE!?!

Manz: We're trying to start a religious movement, Mom!

Manz's Mother: WELL YOU'RE DOING IT VERY LOUDLY! AND IT'S ALMOST DINNER! TELL YOUR FRIENDS TO GO HOME!

Manz: We're busy, Mom! Why can't you let me have any fun?

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:

- 1950 – Billy Ocean, Trinidadian-English singer-songwriter

https://youtu.be/HU2uY641cKg

Continental Commonwealths, Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:We should probably have a vote just in case, but I would support that.

So, one of the founders of the Anabaptist movement still lived with his mamma? I smell sitcom potential.

Manz's Mother: *yells from upstairs off-screen* FELIX! WHAT'S WITH ALL THE RUCKUS DOWN THERE!?!

Manz: We're trying to start a religious movement, Mom!

Manz's Mother: WELL YOU'RE DOING IT VERY LOUDLY! AND IT'S ALMOST DINNER! TELL YOUR FRIENDS TO GO HOME!

Manz: We're busy, Mom! Why can't you let me have any fun?

https://youtu.be/HU2uY641cKg

Would be an awesome sitcom. :P

Jaslandia, Continental Commonwealths

Kalaron wrote:I'm about to throw myself into the railroad line if my phone keeps screwing with me.

Hey, at least yours doesnt autocorrect from "from" to "Frenchmen"

After that, I turned off autocorrect.

Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica

Baxten wrote:Hey, at least yours doesnt autocorrect from "from" to "Frenchmen"

After that, I turned off autocorrect.

This is true.

Bax, you got any feature requests?

Penguania And Antarctica

Kalaron wrote:This is true.

Bax, you got any feature requests?

Nah. All I can say is that I like heavy tanks, even with their slow speed.

Penguania And Antarctica

Baxten wrote:Hey, at least yours doesnt autocorrect from "from" to "Frenchmen"

After that, I turned off autocorrect.

Mine always makes 'Kal' into 'Karl'.

The United Providences Of Perland

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Mine always makes 'Kal' into 'Karl'.

I get that one, too. Sometimes, it corrected Kal into cat, car, Kev. I don't think I got anything bad for you, Peng. It'd just try to spell out the entire word "penguin"

Penguania And Antarctica

Baxten wrote:Nah. All I can say is that I like heavy tanks, even with their slow speed.

Well, this probably won't be heavy though, WW2 and the Jabos showed that weakness when T2 and Panthers alike got the sh!t bombed out of them.

This is gonna be a lighter infantry support/anti-tank, with speed and composites as it's defense.

Penguania And Antarctica

Post self-deleted by Baxten.

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Would be an awesome sitcom. :P

Indeed. I can picture it now: it would be called The Manzes and the Anabaptists, and it's slogan would be: Because founding a religious movement in your mom's house isn't easy.

Penguania And Antarctica

Kalaron wrote:Well, this probably won't be heavy though, WW2 and the Jabos showed that weakness when T2 and Panthers alike got the sh!t bombed out of them.

This is gonna be a lighter infantry support/anti-tank, with speed and composites as it's defense.

Good point. I should probably make lighter infantry tanks rather than heavies. Would a more "modernized" Blitzkreig tactic be feasible now.

Penguania And Antarctica

Baxten wrote:Good point. I should probably make lighter infantry tanks rather than heavies. Would a more "modernized" Blitzkreig tactic be feasible now.

Well, that's an interesting question, and the answer is probably no.

The main utility of the Blitz was that...well, the enemy couldn't tell it was happening until you were balls deep in country, but that also meant most soldiers of yours well not extremely well versed in combat due to only having to clean up what scattered resistance remained.

Furthermore, it was useful due to the lack of organization it forced, where as now commanders are fully capable of communicating with troops.

For the modern day, you'd lose more troops trying to push inland, and would probably have your rations and supplies cut off, so bad idea.

Baxten

Kalaron wrote:Well, this probably won't be heavy though, WW2 and the Jabos showed that weakness when T2 and Panthers alike got the sh!t bombed out of them.

This is gonna be a lighter infantry support/anti-tank, with speed and composites as it's defense.

Well specifically heavy tanks have lost their utility in combat now and have been replaced by multi-role vehicles that can do it all, like a Leopard 2A7 for example. See a heavy tank? SALH missile.

Kalaron wrote:Well, that's an interesting question, and the answer is probably no.

The main utility of the Blitz was that...well, the enemy couldn't tell it was happening until you were balls deep in country, but that also meant most soldiers of yours well not extremely well versed in combat due to only having to clean up what scattered resistance remained.

Furthermore, it was useful due to the lack of organization it forced, where as now commanders are fully capable of communicating with troops.

For the modern day, you'd lose more troops trying to push inland, and would probably have your rations and supplies cut off, so bad idea.

I see. Thanks for answering, Commander Kal.

Yukona wrote:Well specifically heavy tanks have lost their utility in combat now and have been replaced by multi-role vehicles that can do it all, like a Leopard 2A7 for example. See a heavy tank? SALH missile.

Well I use the Leopold 2A7, so I guess I've got that going for me.

Baxten wrote:Good point. I should probably make lighter infantry tanks rather than heavies. Would a more "modernized" Blitzkreig tactic be feasible now.

Totally. In the right situations. Heck even good old fashioned mass bayonet charges are feasible, if used in a timely, and correct manner. I mean, bayo charges almost never happen for good reasons, so I just want to make it clear, I am not stupid, when I use that example.

Personally my preferred tactic when engaging up to Battalion sized forces is to pin them with light infantry, and artillery fire, forming an anvil so to speak, and then taking my highly mobile armored cavalry, and hitting the enemy in the rear like a hammer striking hot iron. The Hammer and Anvil strategy is old as dirt, but its still quite effective.

Anything over Battalion sized however, and I tend to force them to come at me once I have dug in, or lacking the ability to dig in, I evade, and enter Guerrilla mode, until such time as I can dig in.

Baxten

Yukona wrote:Nuremgard my Dad just got back from the Clyde and has brought a Scottish note why does Robert Bruce look so angry?

Because the dastardly English he fought against now spend money with his face on it.

Yukona

Yukona wrote:Well specifically heavy tanks have lost their utility in combat now and have been replaced by multi-role vehicles that can do it all, like a Leopard 2A7 for example. See a heavy tank? SALH missile.

Eh, Reactive armour and composites (alongside an advanced hard kill system) can improve it's capabilities by a significant quantity, however, heavy tanks were truely obsolete once Jabos and bombers got into the field with accurate heavy bombs.

For example, by WW2, most tanks during the push into france were forced to travel by night due to the horrifying capacity of American Bombers, and the knowledge that whenever they heard a plane, it was almost certainly American rather than Luftwaffe.

I'll agree that the missiles are a significant reason for the tanks being phased out, but they were already on their deathbed by the time Vietnam happened.

Baxten wrote:I see. Thanks for answering, Commander Kal.

Np dude.

I just want to see if I could design a tank that truely reduces costs by a large amount.

Kalaron wrote:Np dude.

I just want to see if I could design a tank that truely reduces costs by a large amount.

I'd know no more than you, so I can't really help you there, besides using older tech in non-essential areas (which I wouldn't imagine Int would want that)

Baxten wrote:I'd know no more than you, so I can't really help you there, besides using older tech in non-essential areas (which I wouldn't imagine Int would want that)

Eh, most of it will be achived by simply making the tank lighter, and slighty less resource intensive.

Is why this is an infantry support tank, rather than a HMBT -I'm making this designation a thing because I want too- and may be making it a slightly smaller cannon as a result.

Also, I've come to realize that Paratroopers get a short stick, so I'll look into designing for them too.

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Bearlong wrote:13 billion, bitch.

Good for you, Barry

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2qGZ35XUAI9rS8.jpg

Jaslandia

Bearlong wrote:13 billion, bitch.

Just 3.195 billions. *sigh*

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Vista Major wrote:Good for you, Barry

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2qGZ35XUAI9rS8.jpg

Nice joke, but it's not literally true. Just in case anyone was wondering.

http://www.snopes.com/trump-inaugural-address-plagiarism/

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Kalaron wrote:Also, I've come to realize that Paratroopers get a short stick, so I'll look into designing for them too.

I'm thinking about making a hyper bomber for supply runs, probably with MIRV style capsules holding ammo and other utilities, wjth decoys too.

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Kalaron wrote:I'm thinking about making a hyper bomber for supply runs, probably with MIRV style capsules holding ammo and other utilities, wjth decoys too.

My Defense Office would pay good tax Kounds for that.

Penguania And Antarctica

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:My Defense Office would pay good tax Kounds for that.

I'll probably market it once I feel comfortable with it, which includes attached tech

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The Reform Commission shall be meeting in a few minutes on Discord!

Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:Nice joke, but it's not literally true. Just in case anyone was wondering.

http://www.snopes.com/trump-inaugural-address-plagiarism/

My brother thinks otherwise

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Jaslandia wrote:Nice joke, but it's not literally true. Just in case anyone was wondering.

http://www.snopes.com/trump-inaugural-address-plagiarism/

That would be funny as hell if it was true XD

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I want regional polls. Something to get activity to this region.

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Penguania And Antarctica wrote:I want regional polls. Something to get activity to this region.

Ask, and ye shall receive

Penguania And Antarctica

Vista Major wrote:Ask, and ye shall receive

Damn it Vista, you ninja-ed me to it.

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The United Providences Of Perland wrote:Damn it Vista, you ninja-ed me to it.

#VP4Lyfe

#Vista4Prez

#BetterThanPence

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Vista Major wrote:#VP4Lyfe

#Vista4Prez

#BetterThanPence

Being better than Pence is not hard. I mean, if the 1600s were a person, They'd be Mike Pence.

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Magnatronia wrote:That would be funny as hell if it was true XD

If you still want to compare Trump's inauguration speech to a movie, I suggest Bane from The Dark Knight Rises.

https://youtu.be/1Oeu7SBvPaQ

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The United Providences Of Perland wrote:Being better than Pence is not hard. I mean, if the 1600s were a person, They'd be Mike Pence.

Besides the conversion therapy stuff, what exactly do you think is so bad about Pence?

The United Providences Of Perland

Aldaur wrote:Besides the conversion therapy stuff, what exactly do you think is so bad about Pence?

The fact that he thinks less of a fellow human being for loving the same sex is already my limit. He should be ashamed of himself. But of course rightists have no shame. Or humility, compassion, love, intelligence, or capacity for high-reasoning for that matter.

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Aldaur wrote:Besides the conversion therapy stuff, what exactly do you think is so bad about Pence?

I mean, does there have to be much else?

It's kinda up there with "Kill the jews" for most people.

Kalaron wrote:Also, I've come to realize that Paratroopers get a short stick, so I'll look into designing for them too.

Alright, well, I'll be making a sidegrade to the AEK as a rifle to allow for better utility among the PA-Ts, and I'll look into reducing the weight of the new vehicle to allow for it's drop.

Jaslandia

Magnatronia wrote:The fact that he thinks less of a fellow human being for loving the same sex is already my limit. He should be ashamed of himself. But of course rightists have no shame. Or humility, compassion, love, intelligence, or capacity for high-reasoning for that matter.

Hate to say that you're generalizing to all hell, but that is some awesome flamebait right there.

Aldaur

Magnatronia wrote:The fact that he thinks less of a fellow human being for loving the same sex is already my limit. He should be ashamed of himself. But of course rightists have no shame. Or humility, compassion, love, intelligence, or capacity for high-reasoning for that matter.

That isn't an arrogant statement at all. Regardless, beside his social views and his ideas about smoking and climate change, I think he is fine. There are other things that take precedent in this administration such as infrastructure, trade, immigration and foreign policy. His social views are really irrelevant imo. No one is going to have the exact same beliefs as we do or be perfect. It may serve you well to look past some people's dirt to see what else they can do.

Aldaur wrote:That isn't an arrogant statement at all. Regardless, beside his social views and his ideas about smoking and climate change, I think he is fine. There are other things that take precedent in this administration such as infrastructure, trade, immigration and foreign policy. His social views are really irrelevant imo. No one is going to have the exact same beliefs as we do or be perfect. It may serve you well to look past some people's dirt to see what else they can do.

To an extent, I agree.

So long as...uh...no funds go to his little repair idea, I'm only going to give him a dirty look when he can't see.

Aldaur

Kalaron wrote:To an extent, I agree.

So long as...uh...no funds go to his little repair idea, I'm only going to give him a dirty look when he can't see.

Well that would be up to Congress, so no need to worry :p

Aldaur wrote:Well that would be up to Congress, so no need to worry :p

Eh, regardless, so long as that sh!t is acknowledged as being bad.

But onto other matters, I'm pretty convinced that this support role will work for the tank, and that it could be used for Para-troopers.

Aldaur

Kalaron wrote:Eh, regardless, so long as that sh!t is acknowledged as being bad.

But onto other matters, I'm pretty convinced that this support role will work for the tank, and that it could be used for Para-troopers.

Imagine a few boxes, filled with an engine, lightweight frame pieces, and armored plates. Ikea Tank. For the budget conscious Paratrooper on the go.

Basic model starting at just $59.95.

Merlinton

Lol, the comparison between how many people turned out for Obama's inauguration and Trump's is hilarious.

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Nuremgard wrote:Lol, the comparison between how many people turned out for Obama's inauguration and Trump's is hilarious.

Too be fair, the circumstances between the two days is also different.

Tserra wrote:Imagine a few boxes, filled with an engine, lightweight frame pieces, and armored plates. Ikea Tank. For the budget conscious Paratrooper on the go.

Basic model starting at just $59.95.

Though a modular design has a lot of worth, I don't think I'll be making a full design for that.

Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:Lol, the comparison between how many people turned out for Obama's inauguration and Trump's is hilarious.

It's just because Trump started rounding up all the hispanic and muslim supporters he had, thinking they were illegals and terrorists lol

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Aldaur wrote:It's just because Trump started rounding up all the hispanic and muslim supporters he had, thinking they were illegals and terrorists lol

I cannot wait to see him crash and burn and to see his supporters cry. :P

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Aldaur wrote:Besides the conversion therapy stuff, what exactly do you think is so bad about Pence?

He's against planned parenthood and abortion, wants to completely ban them, and is a misogynist.

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Kalaron wrote:Too be fair, the circumstances between the two days is also different.

Kal has a point. Weather was different, and there were more trains running on Obama's inauguration day than on Trump's. Plus, there was probably a lot more enthusiasm for America's first Black president, than there was for America's first Orange president.

http://www.snopes.com/2017/01/20/obamas-inauguration-crowd-larger-than-trumps/

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The United Providences Of Perland wrote:He's against planned parenthood and abortion, wants to completely ban them, and is a misogynist.

Meh, sort of irrelevant.

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:He's against planned parenthood and abortion, wants to completely ban them, and is a misogynist.

He isn't just a buffoon. He's dangerous. Any woman who votes for a man who wants to take away their rights deserves to have their rights taken away.

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Jaslandia wrote:Kal has a point. Weather was different, and there were more trains running on Obama's inauguration day than on Trump's. Plus, there was probably a lot more enthusiasm for America's first Black president, than there was for America's first Orange president.

http://www.snopes.com/2017/01/20/obamas-inauguration-crowd-larger-than-trumps/

Don't forget the difference in perceived danger.

Aldaur

Aldaur wrote:Meh, sort of irrelevant.

I don't think it's irrelevant when one thinks other people are lesser human beings and tries to deny them their rights

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I was going to say #Underwood2020, but then I remembered Hillary probably won't run again :p

The Royal Republic Of Kumania

The Royal Republic Of Kumania wrote:I don't think it's irrelevant when one thinks other people are lesser human beings and tries to deny them their rights

It's irrelevant because Congress is what has power over funding and laws, not the VP. So it is absolutely irrelevant.

Aldaur wrote:I was going to say #Underwood2020, but then I remembered Hillary probably won't run again :p

If I were her, I'd retire from politics.

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The Royal Republic Of Kumania wrote:I don't think it's irrelevant when one thinks other people are lesser human beings and tries to deny them their rights

He's attempting to state that the VP won't be able to do anything towards that vision regardless.

Aldaur

Aldaur wrote:It's irrelevant because Congress is what has power over funding and laws, not the VP. So it is absolutely irrelevant.

The VP oversees one house of the congress.

Aldaur

Aldaur wrote:I was going to say #Underwood2020, but then I remembered Hillary probably won't run again :p

Compared to Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, I actually would prefer for Frank Underwood to be our President. At least he does it for his own personal gain and isn't controlled or influenced by questionable people.

Nuremgard, Aldaur

The Royal Republic Of Kumania wrote:Compared to Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, I actually would prefer for Frank Underwood to be our President. At least he does it for his own personal gain and isn't controlled or influenced by questionable people.

A wise ruler listens to his counselors but a foolish one is ruled by his counselors.

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