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Hello! I want to stop by and say two things!

1. Happy Three Kings Day from the office of the President/World Assembly Delegate of the Confederation Of Nations

2. Tomorrow is the last day to announce a candidacy for the President/World Assembly Delegate of the Confederation of Nations. Executive Order 6-2017 establishes a Snap Election on January 8th and all World Assembly nations residing in a region that CON have embassy with, are eligible to run for President.

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Vista Major, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

New Porto Rico wrote:Hello! I want to stop by and say two things!

1. Happy Three Kings Day from the office of the President/World Assembly Delegate of the Confederation Of Nations

2. Tomorrow is the last day to announce a candidacy for the President/World Assembly Delegate of the Confederation of Nations. Executive Order 6-2017 establishes a Snap Election on January 8th and all World Assembly nations residing in a region that CON have embassy with, are eligible to run for President.

Peng, this is for you

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Please vote if you haven't already.

http://www.strawpoll.me/14774847

Oelesa

Oelesa wrote:Love the weekend. Sleeping in until noon is great

w e e b

Oelesa, Minnesota Dakota

Election Results:

Bail Organa, Democratic(Blue) - 102

Johanna Constantin, Socialist(Red) - 41

Angela Ziegler, Neutral(Purple) - 19

Jameson Rutledge, Fascist(Orange) - 9 (Reserved)

https://imgur.com/gallery/AfOsQ

Imperial Parliament

https://imgur.com/gallery/3E76F

Vista Major, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Potential Leader Title Name Change. Please Vote.

http://www.strawpoll.me/14779053

Vista Major, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica

Come get your paws dirty!

http://thecoffincofn.boards.net/thread/55/census-act-debate-01-bill

Minnesota Dakota, Mercunova

The position of Premier has been renamed Consul. All Premierial powers will be transfered into Consular powers.

Percyton

Minnesota Dakota wrote:The position of Premier has been renamed Consul. All Premierial powers will be transfered into Consular powers.

Should I spell Consul with a "k", Konsul, to "Germanize" it?

Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Post self-deleted by The Confederate Papers.

Minnesota Dakota wrote:Should I spell Consul with a "k", Konsul, to "Germanize" it?

I'm partial to Qonsul, but Konsul is good, too

Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, Percyton

Minnesota Dakota wrote:Should I spell Consul with a "k", Konsul, to "Germanize" it?

Konsul :)

(You should have made the title 'Chancellor of the Klingon High Council' :P )

Vista Major, Minnesota Dakota, Percyton

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Konsul :)

(You should have made the title 'Chancellor of the Klingon High Council' :P )

Nerd! :P

jk lol

Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

Minnesota Dakota wrote:Nerd! :P

jk lol

I am a German gay nerd and I am proud to be one. :P

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Lex Caledonia, Minnesota Dakota, Percyton

[spoiler=Today is January 6 and today are:]

Today is January 6 and today are:

- Apple Tree Day or Put a Doctor Out of Business Day

- Armed Forces Day (Iraq)

- Christmas (Armenian Apostolic Church)

- Christmas Eve (Bosnia and Herzegovina, Macedonia, Russia, Ukraine)

- Epiphany or Three Kings' Day (Western Christianity)

- Little Christmas (Ireland)

- National Bean Day (United States)

- National Cuddle Up Day (United States)

- National Shortbread Day (United States)

- National Technology Day (United States)

- Pathet Lao Day (Laos)

- Þrettándinn (Iceland)

- Three Wise Men Day

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 1017 – Cnut the Great is crowned King of England.

- 1066 – Harold Godwinson (or Harold II) is crowned King of England.

- 1205 – Philip of Swabia becomes King of the Romans.

- 1322 – Stephen Uroš III is crowned King of Serbia having defeated his half-brother Stefan Konstantin in battle.

- 1355 – Charles I of Bohemia is crowned with the Iron Crown of Lombardy as King of Italy in Milan.

- 1449 – Constantine XI is crowned Byzantine Emperor at Mystras.

- 1492 – The Catholic Monarchs Ferdinand and Isabella enter Granada, completing the Reconquista.

- 1540 – King Henry VIII of England marries Anne of Cleves.

- 1579 – The Union of Arras unites the southern Netherlands under the Duke of Parma, governor in the name of king Philip II of Spain.

- 1661 – English Restoration: The Fifth Monarchists unsuccessfully attempt to seize control of London, England.

- 1690 – Joseph, son of Emperor Leopold I, becomes King of the Romans.

- 1721 – The Committee of Inquiry on the South Sea Bubble publishes its findings.

- 1781 – In the Battle of Jersey, the British defeat the last attempt by France to invade Jersey in the Channel Islands.

- 1809 – Combined British, Portuguese and colonial Brazilian forces begin the Invasion of Cayenne during the Napoleonic Wars.

- 1838 – Alfred Vail demonstrates a telegraph system using dots and dashes (this is the forerunner of Morse code).

- 1839 – The Night of the Big Wind, the most damaging storm in 300 years, sweeps across Ireland, damaging or destroying more than 20% of the houses in Dublin.

- 1870 – The inauguration of the Musikverein in Vienna, Austria.

- 1893 – The Washington National Cathedral is chartered by Congress. The charter is signed by President Benjamin Harrison.

- 1900 – Second Boer War: Having already besieged the fortress at Ladysmith, Boer forces attack it, but are driven back by British defenders.

- 1907 – Maria Montessori opens her first school and daycare center for working class children in Rome, Italy.

- 1912 – New Mexico is admitted to the Union as the 47th U.S. state.

- 1912 – German geophysicist Alfred Wegener first presents his theory of continental drift.

- 1929 – King Alexander of the Serbs, Croats and Slovenes suspends his country's constitution (the January 6th Dictatorship).

- 1929 – Mother Teresa arrives in Calcutta, India, to begin her work among India's poorest and sick people.

- 1930 – The first diesel-powered automobile trip is completed, from Indianapolis, Indiana, to New York, New York.

- 1931 – Thomas Edison signs his last patent application.

- 1941 – United States President Franklin D. Roosevelt delivers his Four Freedoms speech in the State of the Union address.

- 1946 – The first general election ever in Vietnam is held.

- 1947 – Pan American Airlines becomes the first commercial airline to offer a round-the-world ticket.

- 1950 – The United Kingdom recognizes the People's Republic of China. The Republic of China severs diplomatic relations with the UK in response.

- 1951 – Korean War: An estimated 200–1,300 South Korean communist sympathizers are slaughtered in what becomes the Ganghwa massacre.

- 1960 – National Airlines Flight 2511 is destroyed in mid-air by a bomb, while en route from New York City to Miami.

- 1960 – The Associations Law comes into force in Iraq, allowing registration of political parties.

- 1967 – Vietnam War: United States Marine Corps and ARVN troops launch "Operation Deckhouse Five" in the Mekong River delta.

- 1974 – In response to the 1973 oil crisis, daylight saving time commences nearly four months early in the United States.

- 1978 – The Crown of St. Stephen (also known as the Holy Crown of Hungary) is returned to Hungary from the United States, where it was held after World War II.

- 1989 – Satwant Singh and Kehar Singh are sentenced to death for conspiracy in the assassination of Prime Minister Indira Gandhi; the two men are executed the same day.

- 1992 – President of Georgia Zviad Gamsakhurdia flees the country as a result of the military coup.

- 1993 – Indian Border Security Force units kill 55 Kashmiri civilians in Sopore, Jammu and Kashmir, in revenge after militants ambushed a BSF patrol.

- 1995 – A chemical fire in an apartment complex in Manila, Philippines, leads to the discovery of plans for Project Bojinka, a mass-terrorist attack.

- 2001 – The US Congress certifies George W. Bush winner of 2000 presidential election.

- 2005 – American Civil Rights Movement: Edgar Ray Killen is arrested as a suspect in the 1964 murders of Chaney, Goodman, and Schwerner.

- 2005 – A train collision in Graniteville, South Carolina, releases about 60 tons of chlorine gas.

- 2012 – Twenty-six people are killed and 63 wounded when a suicide bomber blows himself up at a police station in Damascus.

- 2017 – Five people are killed and six others injured in a mass shooting at Fort Lauderdale–Hollywood International Airport in Broward County, Florida.

- 2017 – The US Congress certifies Donald Trump winner of 2016 presidential election.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1412 – Joan of Arc, French martyr and saint

- 1745 – Jacques-Etienne Montgolfier, French co-inventor of the hot air balloon

- 1807 – Joseph Petzval, German-Hungarian mathematician and physicist

- 1811 – Charles Sumner, American lawyer and politician

- 1822 – Heinrich Schliemann, German archaeologist and businessman

- 1832 – Gustave Doré, French painter and sculptor

- 1862 – Dr.August Oetker, German inventor and businessman, founded Dr. Oetker

- 1883 – Kahlil Gibran, Lebanese-American poet, painter, and philosopher

- 1913 – Loretta Young, American actress

- 1920 – John Maynard Smith, English biologist and geneticist

- 1933 – Emil Steinberger, Swiss actor, director, and screenwriter

- 1938 – Adriano Celentano, Italian singer-songwriter, actor, and director

- 1944 – Rolf M. Zinkernagel, Swiss immunologist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1946 – Syd Barrett, English singer-songwriter and guitarist

- 1954 – Yuji Horii, Japanese video game designer, created Dragon Quest

- 1954 – Anthony Minghella, English director and screenwriter

- 1955 – Rowan Atkinson, English actor, producer, and screenwriter

- 1964 – Henry Maske, German professional boxer

- 1967 – A. R. Rahman, Indian composer, singer-songwriter, music producer, musician and philanthropist

- 1976 – Judith Rakers, German journalist and TV presenter

- 1982 – Eddie Redmayne, English actor

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Quote of the day

The Sun, Moon and Stars are there to guide us.

- Dennis Banks -

Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Minnesota Dakota, Mercunova, Percyton

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:I am a German gay nerd and I am proud to be one. :P

And I’m proud of you too.

Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota

Lex Caledonia wrote:And I’m proud of you too.

Why's that?

Minnesota Dakota

Russkov Soviet wrote:Just switched it out to another version. I'm messing with colors atm.

That one looks neat too. :D

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, Percyton

So, like, the idea I had yesterday is awesome and I love it. I've been thinking about the foundation for such a weapon (The Kinetic Energy FTL dart, from yesterday) and I realized that there are multiple ways that it could work involving translations to other dimensions (A two dimensional dart could carry the same information (Length, Height and width) by occupying a longer area of space, which improves penetration of thick armour even further due to the reduced height and width, it's L/D would be extremely high by nature) or a "simple" use of an Alb Drive to reduce the impulse of the strike while also spilling exotic matter everywhere inside the vessel provided it stopped after penetrating. The Alb Drive also helps in that, while it doesn't by nature reach speeds exceeding that of light, it still carries a heaping proportion of the speed of light and thus implies a huge amount of energy due to the reduced impulse.

The dart would presumably be fitted with a nuclear rocket as well due to the very high thrusts involved with it, the speed of the expelled gases might be lower than that of an Ion Thruster, but the efficiency is undeniably higher. Alternatively, I might fit it with a Nuclear Salt Water Reactor or a Pulsed Fusion concept since the former is literally constantly exploding nukes and the latter is also highly efficient if technology swings right.

Furthermore, a limiting factor I'm considering would be that the type of drive, either through it's exotic matter or through it's drilling effect, would damage local space if used en-mass. This would help to limit not just it's spam -as we on NS often see done with weapons- but would also act as a driving fork in the militaries that use it. If less ships were in the area, for instance, or rather less mass (Smaller ships) the damage implied would be lower to local space and losses from kickback at local space would be much smaller, however, these ships would inherently be less well suited for combat at short ranges against something like fighters (Or rather, drones) due to the loss of room for Point Defense systems. Thus, while one could quite easily destroy enemies ships at range with colossal damage and a near spam-ish amount, this would leave them vulnerable to a certain type of reprisal.

Alternatively, larger fleets (Or larger, more effective ships) could either fire off less, travel through space in a round-about transitory path (1) or fire more at signifigantly higher risk to themselves. However, they would be much better at dealing with Point Defense situations. Interestingly, larger ships would have be less effective at fighting large ships, for this weapon.

(1) = https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/233369021632872448/399324355118628874/KEFTL.png

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota

Mähren und Böhmen is the greatest!! :)

Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Fuhrmania wrote:I am not sure if i will survive. I am just worried about my kids.

Oh dear! Sorry to hear that, Fuhrmania. I'll keep you in my thoughts, and hopefully things will turn out alright one way or another! Until them, do your best to stay positive!

Maehren Und Boehmen wrote:Hello :)

Welcome to the region, Maehren und Boehmen! I'm Percy, King of Percyton and the #6 green engine on the Island of Sodor. I hope you like it here in the CoFN!

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:

- 1982 – Eddie Redmayne, English actor

Happy birthday, Eddie Redmayne! Though he's best-known for roles like The Theory of Everything and Les Misérables, what a lot of people don't know is that he also played Ryan in the 2015 Thomas special Sodor's Legend of the Lost Treasure. Unfortunately, most of us didn't get the chance to meet Mr. Redmayne when he visited Sodor, and he wasn't able to stay on to voice Ryan in the regular episodes afterwards, but the real Ryan did get to meet Mr. Redmayne (Eddie Redmayne did say in an interview that he got to 'meet' his engine, and he wasn't kidding), and Ryan said that he was quite nice and eager to play the role.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLIEGl1GZew

http://ew.com/article/2015/09/08/eddie-redmayne-thomas-tank-engine-movie/

Of course, if you're reading this Mr. Redmayne, you're welcome to come back to Sodor at any time. And I'm sure Steven Kynman (Ryan's current voice actor) wouldn't mind giving up his role if you were to return to the TV series (especially since Kynman voices a ton of characters already, like Duck, Paxton, Peter Sam, and quite a few more). Just putting it out there.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, James The Red Engine, Maehren Und Boehmen

Percyton wrote:Happy birthday, Eddie Redmayne! Though he's best-known for roles like The Theory of Everything and Les Misérables, what a lot of people don't know is that he also played Ryan in the 2015 Thomas special Sodor's Legend of the Lost Treasure. Unfortunately, most of us didn't get the chance to meet Mr. Redmayne when he visited Sodor, and he wasn't able to stay on to voice Ryan in the regular episodes afterwards, but the real Ryan did get to meet Mr. Redmayne (Eddie Redmayne did say in an interview that he got to 'meet' his engine, and he wasn't kidding), and Ryan said that he was quite nice and eager to play the role.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLIEGl1GZew

http://ew.com/article/2015/09/08/eddie-redmayne-thomas-tank-engine-movie/

Of course, if you're reading this Mr. Redmayne, you're welcome to come back to Sodor at any time. And I'm sure Steven Kynman (Ryan's current voice actor) wouldn't mind giving up his role if you were to return to the TV series (especially since Kynman voices a ton of characters already, like Duck, Paxton, Peter Sam, and quite a few more). Just putting it out there.

Thomas sure is a magnet for celebrities, and Eddie Reymayne is just one example. You also got John Hurt (voice of Sailor John in Sodor's Legend of the Lost Treasure), Olivia Colman (voice of Marion in Sodor's Legend of Lost Treasure onwards), Ringo Starr (narrator for seasons 1 and 2 in the U.S. and U.K.), George Carlin (narrator for seasons 1-4 in the U.S.), Alec Baldwin (narrator for seasons 5-6 in the U.S., and Mr. Conductor in the Thomas and the Magic Railroad movie) Mara Wilson (Lily in the Thomas and the Magic Railroad movie), Peter Fonda (Burnett Stone in the Thomas and the Magic Railroad movie), Russell Means (Billy Twofeathers in the Thomas and the Magic Railroad movie), and Pierce Brosnan ('guest narrator' for the 2008 special The Great Discovery, and he was in talks to narrate season 12 as well before he decided against it). Take that, Barney!

Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton, James The Red Engine

Jaslandia wrote:Thomas sure is a magnet for celebrities, and Eddie Reymayne is just one example. You also got John Hurt (voice of Sailor John in Sodor's Legend of the Lost Treasure), Olivia Colman (voice of Marion in Sodor's Legend of Lost Treasure onwards), Ringo Starr (narrator for seasons 1 and 2 in the U.S. and U.K.), George Carlin (narrator for seasons 1-4 in the U.S.), Alec Baldwin (narrator for seasons 5-6 in the U.S., and Mr. Conductor in the Thomas and the Magic Railroad movie) Mara Wilson (Lily in the Thomas and the Magic Railroad movie), Peter Fonda (Burnett Stone in the Thomas and the Magic Railroad movie), Russell Means (Billy Twofeathers in the Thomas and the Magic Railroad movie), and Pierce Brosnan ('guest narrator' for the 2008 special The Great Discovery, and he was in talks to narrate season 12 as well before he decided against it). Take that, Barney!

I don't mean to brag or anything, but our franchise's association with celebrities doesn't just start with the TV series. The first 11 books of the Railway Series (the books our TV series is based on) were narrated for radio and LPs by the great British television presenter Johnny Morris, and after him came the great British comedian and cartoonist Willie Rushton.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Morris

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Rushton

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

James The Red Engine wrote:I don't mean to brag or anything, but our franchise's association with celebrities doesn't just start with the TV series. The first 11 books of the Railway Series (the books our TV series is based on) were narrated for radio and LPs by the great British television presenter Johnny Morris, and after him came the great British comedian and cartoonist Willie Rushton.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Morris

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Rushton

As an American, I haven't heard of either of them, but I'm sure they're much more well-known in the U.K.

Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

I heard yall are having a presidential election.....

I'm ready to MCOFNGA

(Make Confederacy of Free Nations Great Again)

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota

Avernian Republic wrote:I heard yall are having a presidential election.....

I'm ready to MCOFNGA

(Make Confederacy of Free Nations Great Again)

You are a few days late. Also, that is probably the ugliest acronym I have seen. No offense.

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia, Fuhrmania, Yukona

Minnesota Dakota wrote:You are a few days late. Also, that is probably the ugliest acronym I have seen. No offense.

Also it's Chancellor, not President.

But seconded.

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia, Minnesota Dakota, Yukona

My God, May’s interview on the Andrew Mar show this morning on the NHS was mind numbingly infuriating

Nuremgard, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

I am back to activity!

Government meeting is called January 8 to 10, in the #cabinet-room chanel on Discord. I would like to ask Citizens not to post in that chanel for the meeting's duration. However, we are pleased to have Citizens watch the proceedings. I shall undertake pubpishing a record after the conclusion. Thank you.

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Axeldonia, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia

Percyton wrote:Welcome to the region, Maehren und Boehmen! I'm Percy, King of Percyton and the #6 green engine on the Island of Sodor. I hope you like it here in the CoFN!

Thank you for this warm welcome. You all seem to be very nice. :)

Jaslandia, Percyton

Yukona wrote:My God, May’s interview on the Andrew Mar show this morning on the NHS was mind numbingly infuriating

https://i.imgflip.com/1a5ghz.jpg

Jaslandia, Percyton

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Why's that?

Because you’re a wonderful member of this community Peng, that’s why.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Yukona wrote:My God, May’s interview on the Andrew Mar show this morning on the NHS was mind numbingly infuriating

She and her entire government are a national disgrace.

I had a very long, frustrating debate with a Trump supporter last night. Not a pleasant experience.

Minnesota Dakota

Nuremgard wrote:I had a very long, frustrating debate with a Trump supporter last night. Not a pleasant experience.

Just like Trump. Not a pleasant experience.

Nuremgard, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica

Apparently, poisoning terrorist = WMD's. ?

Penguania And Antarctica

Minnesota Dakota wrote:Apparently, poisoning terrorist = WMD's. ?

Uh, what do you mean?

Kalaron wrote:Uh, what do you mean?

There was a hostage situation, so I gave the terrorists radiated money to let the hostages go.

Minnesota Dakota wrote:There was a hostage situation, so I gave the terrorists radiated money to let the hostages go.

I mean, that's radiation poisioning, yes. That would count as a WMD since -if the notes entered general circulation- it would pretty massively be terrible.

Besides, depending on the amount in the bills, it's actually a bad idea. You do not want Terrorists having radiological materials pretty much ever.

Jaslandia, Oelesa

Nuremgard wrote:I had a very long, frustrating debate with a Trump supporter last night. Not a pleasant experience.

What was their argument for Trump.

Avernian Republic wrote:I heard yall are having a presidential election.....

I'm ready to MCOFNGA

(Make Confederacy of Free Nations Great Again)

By the number of likes I've got, I might just win.

Oelesa wrote:What was their argument for Trump.

He is fixing America. There are more jobs, economic growth is up, the stock market is doing well., he has single handedly destroyed ISIS.

Nuremgard wrote:single handedly destroyed ISIS.

He is like Rambo. :P

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:He is like Rambo. :P

He wishes.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:He is fixing America. There are more jobs, economic growth is up, the stock market is doing well., he has single handedly destroyed ISIS.

He inherited a growing economy

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota

Nuremgard wrote:He is fixing America. There are more jobs, economic growth is up, the stock market is doing well., he has single handedly destroyed ISIS.

Trump is destroying America's international image, the economy is fine, for now, there are more jobs but they are of bad quality, the stock market is doing well but his gains pale in comparison to Obama, ISIS still exists in Syria and Trump has done nothing to help refugees, in fact he has blocked refugees from entering the US, Obama had ISIS on the run in Iraq, Trump just inherited the offensive.

Russkov Soviet, Nuremgard, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

And this is why I play as Communist nation's. I'm not Anti-American by any means, but people like Trump and Clinton make me sick. (I'm not a fan of some Communist governments as well, but I have my reasons. I got bullied in high school. During WW2 in history class, our teacher separated the class into the various nations with me being USSR. The class was then supposed to fight a free-for-all, but basically all against me. Since I was the only one who knew how to wage war [thank you 1000's of hours on strategy games] I somehow beat them all. I... kinda let the Soviet Union go to my head...and Its been stuck ever sense.)

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Nuremgard wrote:He is fixing America. There are more jobs, economic growth is up, the stock market is doing well., he has single handedly destroyed ISIS.

That has nothing to do with Trump. The economy has been growly steadily since the Obama Administration and the Iraqis, Syrians, and Iranians have done much more than the US to defeat ISIS. It's almost like they are ignoring every policy decision Trump has actually enacted. The GOP's tax reform will increase the debt by $1.5 trillion over the next 10 years, increase premiums, put millions out of insurance, and make the rich richer while making the poor poorer. Supporting health insurance associations will lower prices for those who need health care the least and increase it for those who need the most. And his appointees haven't been any better. We are seeing the end of the free and open internet under Ajit Pai and the EPA seems to be focusing more on saving the failing coal industry instead of working to support the emerging green industry. Sessions is now cracking down on states with legal marijuana and liberal immigration laws and he has had a history of supporting voters' rights suppression. Trump is supporting a $15 billion wall that is somehow going to be paid by Mexico in return for protecting young undocumented immigrants. As Elizabeth Warren pointed out, it's disgusting that Trump and the GOP are using young undocumented immigrants as bargaining chips for a government funding bill. At the same time, the short-term extension for the Children's Health Insurance Program is going to run out of money not in March, but this month. At the same time, Trump has had business connections with the Saudis while he and the rest of his administration have in some way been connected to money laundering and connections with Russian oligarchs. For example, look at Kushner and his connection to certain suspicious operations in Deutsche Bank and Trump Jr. has been called traitorous by even Bannon. And while all of that is happening, Trump is too busy watching TV, calling people, or tweeting to actually do his job effectively. He really is just a puppet for the Congressional GOP, passing anything they demand of him. Not only that, but Trump is calling for offshore drilling on nearly all of the US's coast, putting tourism and marine ecosystems in those areas at risk. In fact, the plan is so stupid that even Republicans oppose it. And that's just recent news. At the beginning of his administration, Trump, through executive order, allowed coal companies to dump their waste into our waterways, allowed websites to sell our data without our permission, and increased taxes on the middle class by repealing an Obama-era tax rule in regards to mortgages.

And America's economy might be rallying right now, but most Americans haven't even seen a raise in decades, all while the top 20 percent of Americans own 80 percent of the wealth in the country. While corporate profits are surging, Trump is willing to give stimulus to such businesses through huge tax cuts instead of giving stimulus to the American people. Meanwhile, our infrastructure is crumbling and Trump's plan is to sell it off to Goldman Sachs. Speaking of Goldman Sachs, while Trump boasts about draining the swamp, his administration is full of Goldman Sachs officials. The Secretary of State was a former executive at ExxonMobil and Scott Pruitt, head of the EPA, has sued the organization 14 times.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota

Russkov Soviet wrote:And this is why I play as Communist nation's. I'm not Anti-American by any means, but people like Trump and Clinton make me sick. (I'm not a fan of some Communist governments as well, but I have my reasons. I got bullied in high school. During WW2 in history class, our teacher separated the class into the various nations with me being USSR. The class was then supposed to fight a free-for-all, but basically all against me. Since I was the only one who knew how to wage war [thank you 1000's of hours on strategy games] I somehow beat them all. I... kinda let the Soviet Union go to my head...and Its been stuck ever sense.)

I would've rather had Hillary in the White House. I also like communist nations because in a lot of history games the USSR is the strongest. Also communsim is much better than capitalism.

Russkov Soviet, Axeldonia

Minnesota Dakota wrote:Trump is destroying America's international image, the economy is fine, for now, there are more jobs but they are of bad quality, the stock market is doing well but his gains pale in comparison to Obama, ISIS still exists in Syria and Trump has done nothing to help refugees, in fact he has blocked refugees from entering the US, Obama had ISIS on the run in Iraq, Trump just inherited the offensive.

Just to comment on some things;

1) America's international image is fine, IMO. Electing Trump to office is no more of a damning mark than Brexit was, considering that Russian Disinformation attempts have been suspected at the heart of both. Furthermore, some of what he's done with regards to how the US is viewed (Demanding other NATO members fulfill their obligations, for example) has been fine enough and we've ultimately kept our foothold in the Pacific through Japan and SK (The latter of which benefits from the US's THAAD while the former benefits from our military). Admittedly, some prestige slippage might have occurred in Europe, but I'm convinced that in the coming years some EU members will likely elect divisive leaders unless they're very careful due to the continued Russian Cyber-Attacks.

2) Saying either president is responsible for "destroying" ISIS is rather strange. While Obama did give the order to dispense aid to the Coalitions militaries, it's hardly impressive or commendable that they've been pushing them back. Perhaps it's just a matter of semantics, but if one is to give responsibility to Obama for letting his generals command the military in this situation then I would object to denying Trump that same credit.

Kalaron wrote:Just to comment on some things;

1) America's international image is fine, IMO. Electing Trump to office is no more of a damning mark than Brexit was, considering that Russian Disinformation attempts have been suspected at the heart of both. Furthermore, some of what he's done with regards to how the US is viewed (Demanding other NATO members fulfill their obligations, for example) has been fine enough and we've ultimately kept our foothold in the Pacific through Japan and SK (The latter of which benefits from the US's THAAD while the former benefits from our military). Admittedly, some prestige slippage might have occurred in Europe, but I'm convinced that in the coming years some EU members will likely elect divisive leaders unless they're very careful due to the continued Russian Cyber-Attacks.

That's just wrong. Trump seriously has destroyed our image among the international community. The UN has condemned his move to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital and France and Sweden have gone as far as to claim that our support for Iranian protestors is simply a way to disrupt the Iran Nuclear Deal. Tourism has gone down and international students are becoming a rare phenomenon in America's colleges and university, forcing them to cut their budgets and increase tuition. Tensions are increasing between SK and the US as the US is not too keen on SK being open to diplomacy with NK. Our relationship in Cuba has also been ruined as the Trump Administration is reversing Obama-era agreements that improved our diplomatic relationship with the country and set on the path of political and economic liberalization. Additionally, and this isn't a part of my counterpoint, but you have a typo in your last sentence. I think you meant to say decisive, not divisive.

Axeldonia, Minnesota Dakota, Yukona, Confederal States

Vetriutan 2 wrote:That has nothing to do with Trump. The economy has been growly steadily since the Obama Administration and the Iraqis, Syrians, and Iranians have done much more than the US to defeat ISIS. It's almost like they are ignoring every policy decision Trump has actually enacted. The GOP's tax reform will increase the debt by $1.5 trillion over the next 10 years, increase premiums, put millions out of insurance, and make the rich richer while making the poor poorer. Supporting health insurance associations will lower prices for those who need health care the least and increase it for those who need the most. And his appointees haven't been any better. We are seeing the end of the free and open internet under Ajit Pai and the EPA seems to be focusing more on saving the failing coal industry instead of working to support the emerging green industry. Sessions is now cracking down on states with legal marijuana and liberal immigration laws and he has had a history of supporting voters' rights suppression. Trump is supporting a $15 billion wall that is somehow going to be paid by Mexico in return for protecting young undocumented immigrants. As Elizabeth Warren pointed out, it's disgusting that Trump and the GOP are using young undocumented immigrants as bargaining chips for a government funding bill. At the same time, the short-term extension for the Children's Health Insurance Program is going to run out of money not in March, but this month. At the same time, Trump has had business connections with the Saudis while he and the rest of his administration have in some way been connected to money laundering and connections with Russian oligarchs. For example, look at Kushner and his connection to certain suspicious operations in Deutsche Bank and Trump Jr. has been called traitorous by even Bannon. And while all of that is happening, Trump is too busy watching TV, calling people, or tweeting to actually do his job effectively. He really is just a puppet for the Congressional GOP, passing anything they demand of him. Not only that, but Trump is calling for offshore drilling on nearly all of the US's coast, putting tourism and marine ecosystems in those areas at risk. In fact, the plan is so stupid that even Republicans oppose it. And that's just recent news. At the beginning of his administration, Trump, through executive order, allowed coal companies to dump their waste into our waterways, allowed websites to sell our data without our permission, and increased taxes on the middle class by repealing an Obama-era tax rule in regards to mortgages.

And America's economy might be rallying right now, but most Americans haven't even seen a raise in decades, all while the top 20 percent of Americans own 80 percent of the wealth in the country. While corporate profits are surging, Trump is willing to give stimulus to such businesses through huge tax cuts instead of giving stimulus to the American people. Meanwhile, our infrastructure is crumbling and Trump's plan is to sell it off to Goldman Sachs. Speaking of Goldman Sachs, while Trump boasts about draining the swamp, his administration is full of Goldman Sachs officials. The Secretary of State was a former executive at ExxonMobil and Scott Pruitt, head of the EPA, has sued the organization 14 times.

No need to tell me mate. Im just repeating what he said.

Jaslandia, Minnesota Dakota

Nuremgard wrote:No need to tell me mate. Im just repeating what he said.

I just wanted to give you a refresh of everything wrong with the US, which is everything. You don't follow American politics that closely, do you?

On another note, I modified the Political Spectrum to make it work for Iraq. Any thoughts on it?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/233369021632872448/399634310820265994/yqM3k8g.png?width=400&height=217

Nuremgard

Vetriutan 2 wrote:That's just wrong. Trump seriously has destroyed our image among the international community. The UN has condemned his move to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital and France and Sweden have gone as far as to claim that our support for Iranian protestors is simply a way to disrupt the Iran Nuclear Deal. Tourism has gone down and international students are becoming a rare phenomenon in America's colleges and university, forcing them to cut their budgets and increase tuition. Tensions are increasing between SK and the US as the US is not too keen on SK being open to diplomacy with NK. Our relationship in Cuba has also been ruined as the Trump Administration is reversing Obama-era agreements that improved our diplomatic relationship with the country and set on the path of political and economic liberalization. Additionally, and this isn't a part of my counterpoint, but you have a typo in your last sentence. I think you meant to say decisive, not divisive.

For my last sentence, I meant what I said. Russia has already shown that they are intent on continuing to pour money into disinformation programs -as is a tradition reaching back to the old Soviet Union with the World Peace Council and I see no reason for them to stop when breaking up the trust among the EU members would be beneficial to them. It seems a forgone conclusion then that more leaders like Trump will likely be elected in the future through the perception of faults with how the voting country is treated, starting in the EU, quite likely.

As for NK, it's a country who's existence is propagated through the internal propaganda that both the Americans and the South Koreans are enemies to be killed -quite literally, in fact. They are taught that it is their job to do so (http://www.newsweek.com/how-north-korean-children-are-taught-hate-americans-632334)- as they will serve at the beck and call of their leaders and eternal providers, the Kim family (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/for-north-koreas-kims-its-never-too-soon-to-start-brainwashing/2015/01/15/a23871c6-9a67-11e4-86a3-1b56f64925f6_story.html?utm_term=.f6426ed2f969). For that matter, it's doubtful that the North Koreans are really open to an open diplomatic connection due to their propaganda, so the closest either side could probably get would be something closer to a backroom deal of sorts, but that's pointless due to the security already provided to the South Koreans through THAAD and the United States military. Lastly, as I said, the US has maintained it's foothold and THAAD will keep it. Any mass degradation could lead to the removal of one of South Korea's strongest defenses, and that isn't really marketable in an election.

As for Cuba, I don't contend it, but I also would mention that Cuba isn't an overbearing part of the international community either way.

As for the UN, I will admit that his choice was cancerous, but I do disagree that it has seriously damaged the United States image. It's been known for literal decades that the US was a deep-fan of Israel and at least for years that Israel lobbies in the Senate. I don't personally believe that this change was particularly shocking or damaging.

E: We'll have to agree to disagree tbh, I'm actually pretty tired so -if I do respond- it will probably be in a day or someyhing stupid like that, it's my final day before going back to a lot of work so I'm gonna spend it playing games and stuff :p

Vetriutan 2

[spoiler=Today is January 7 and today are:]

Today is January 7 and today are:

- Christmas (Eastern Orthodox Churches and Oriental Orthodox Churches)

- Distaff Day

- Harlem Globetrotters' Day

- I’m Not Going To Take It Anymore Day

- Nanakusa no sekku (Japan)

- National Bobblehead Day (United States)

- National Tempura Day (United States)

- Old Rock Day

- Pioneer's Day (Liberia)

- Remembrance Day of the Dead (Armenia)

- Tricolour Day or Festa del Tricolore (Italy)

- Victory from Genocide Day (Cambodia)

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 1131 – Canute Lavard was murdered at Haraldsted, Denmark by his cousin, Magnus I of Sweden.

- 1325 – Alfonso IV becomes King of Portugal.

- 1558 – French troops, led by Francis, Duke of Guise, take Calais, the last continental possession of England.

- 1566 – Pope Pius V is elected.

- 1608 – Fire destroys Jamestown, Virginia.

- 1610 – Galileo Galilei makes his first observation of the four Galilean moons: Ganymede, Callisto, Io and Europa, although he is not able to distinguish the last two until the following day.

- 1782 – The first American commercial bank, the Bank of North America, opens.

- 1785 – Frenchman Jean-Pierre Blanchard and American John Jeffries travel from Dover, England, to Calais, France, in a gas balloon.

- 1835 – HMS Beagle drops anchor off the Chonos Archipelago.

- 1894 – William Kennedy Dickson receives a patent for motion picture film.

- 1904 – The distress signal "CQD" is established only to be replaced two years later by "SOS".

- 1919 – Montenegrin guerrilla fighters rebel against the planned annexation of Montenegro by Serbia, but fail.

- 1920 – The New York State Assembly refuses to seat five duly elected Socialist assemblymen.

- 1922 – Dáil Éireann ratifies the Anglo-Irish Treaty by a 64–57 vote.

- 1927 – The first transatlantic telephone service is established from New York City to London.

- 1928 – A disastrous flood of the River Thames kills 14 people and causes extensive damage to much of riverside London.

- 1931 – Guy Menzies flies the first solo non-stop trans-Tasman flight (from Australia to New Zealand) in 11 hours and 45 minutes, crash-landing on New Zealand's west coast.

- 1935 – Benito Mussolini and French Foreign minister Pierre Laval sign the Franco-Italian Agreement.

- 1940 – Winter War: The Finnish 9th Division stop and completely destroy the numerically superior Soviet forces on the Raate-Suomussalmi road.

- 1942 – World War II: The siege of the Bataan Peninsula begins.

- 1945 – World War II: British General Bernard Montgomery holds a press conference in which he claims credit for victory in the Battle of the Bulge.

- 1948 – Kentucky Air National Guard pilot Thomas Mantell crashes while in pursuit of a supposed UFO.

- 1954 – Georgetown-IBM experiment: The first public demonstration of a machine translation system, is held in New York at the head office of IBM.

- 1955 – Contralto Marian Anderson becomes the first person of color to perform at the Metropolitan Opera in Giuseppe Verdi's Un ballo in maschera. Thanks to the prejudice of Rudolf Bing, white women born in the United States, such as Beverly Sills, would have to wait until 1975.

- 1959 – The United States recognizes the new Cuban government of Fidel Castro.

- 1968 – Surveyor Program: Surveyor 7, the last spacecraft in the Surveyor series, lifts off from launch complex 36A, Cape Canaveral.

- 1973 – Mark Essex fatally shoots ten people and wounds 13 others at Howard Johnson's Hotel in New Orleans, Louisiana, before being shot to death by police officers.

- 1979 – Third Indochina War: Cambodian–Vietnamese War: Phnom Penh falls to the advancing Vietnamese troops, driving out Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge.

- 1980 – U.S. President Jimmy Carter authorizes legislation giving $1.5 billion in loans to bail out the Chrysler Corporation.

- 1984 – Brunei becomes the sixth member of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN).

- 1985 – Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency launches Sakigake, Japan's first interplanetary spacecraft and the first deep space probe to be launched by any country other than the United States or the Soviet Union.

- 1991 – Roger Lafontant, former leader of the Tonton Macoute in Haiti under François Duvalier, attempts a coup d'état, which ends in his arrest.

- 1992 – The Jeep Grand Cherokee is introduced at the Detroit Auto Show.

- 1993 – The Fourth Republic of Ghana is inaugurated with Jerry Rawlings as President.

- 1993 – Bosnian War: The Bosnian Army executes a surprise attack at the village of Kravica in Srebrenica.

- 1999 – The Senate trial in the impeachment of U.S. President Bill Clinton begins.

- 2012 – A hot air balloon crashes near Carterton, New Zealand, killing all 11 people on board.

- 2015 – Two gunmen commit mass murder at the offices of Charlie Hebdo in Paris, shooting twelve people execution style, and wounding eleven others.

- 2015 – A car bomb explodes outside a police college in the Yemeni capital Sana'a with at least 38 people reported dead and more than 63 injured.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1502 – Pope Gregory XIII

- 1800 – Millard Fillmore, American soldier, lawyer, and politician, 13th President of the United States

- 1834 – Johann Philipp Reis, German physicist and academic, invented the Reis telephone

- 1873 – Adolph Zukor, Hungarian-American film producer, co-founded Paramount Pictures

- 1912 – Charles Addams, American cartoonist, created The Addams Family

- 1916 – Paul Keres, Estonian-Finnish chess player and theoretician

- 1928 – William Peter Blatty, American author and screenwriter

- 1950 – Juan Gabriel, Mexican singer-songwriter

- 1956 – Uwe Ochsenknecht, German actor and singer

- 1964 – Nicolas Cage, American actor, director, and producer

- 1967 – Nick Clegg, English academic and politician, Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom

- 1982 – Hannah Stockbauer, German swimmer

- 1985 – Lewis Hamilton, English race car driver

- 1991 – Eden Hazard, Belgian footballer

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Quote of the day

A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.

- Charles Spurgeon -

Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Vista Major, Axeldonia, Lex Caledonia, Minnesota Dakota, Mercunova, Percyton

Vetriutan 2 wrote:I just wanted to give you a refresh of everything wrong with the US, which is everything. You don't follow American politics that closely, do you?

On another note, I modified the Political Spectrum to make it work for Iraq. Any thoughts on it?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/233369021632872448/399634310820265994/yqM3k8g.png?width=400&height=217

The most I follow of American politics is the Trump headlines. Also, is there a difference between Sunni and Conservative? I thought they were one in the same since Islam is inherently conservative.

Nuremgard wrote:The most I follow of American politics is the Trump headlines. Also, is there a difference between Sunni and Conservative? I thought they were one in the same since Islam is inherently conservative.

Sunni is one of the branches of Islam

Conservative Islam is more akin to fundamentalist/hardline teachings like Wahhabism and Velayet-e faqih

Nuremgard, Vetriutan 2

Nuremgard wrote:The most I follow of American politics is the Trump headlines. Also, is there a difference between Sunni and Conservative? I thought they were one in the same since Islam is inherently conservative.

There is a difference between Sunni and conservative on the chart. For the Iraqi (section of the political compass, there are really two political compasses for the country. One is for the religious political parties, which are either are Shia or Sunni. For the secular half of the compass, that half is divided into conservative and liberal, which mean different things than in most western democracies, especially the US. In Iraq, a liberal is someone who supports a free-market capitalist economy along with a liberal democracy. A conservative, on the other hand, tends to be more socially restrictive, somewhat regionalist, and can at times support more government intervention into the economy than liberals. To be frank, making a political compass for Iraqi politics is a futile effort because of how disjointed Iraqi politics is. Many of the religious parties, for example, are themselves conservative.

I also made a political compass for liberal democracies.

https://i.imgur.com/4EUZgEy.png

Nuremgard, Axeldonia

Vetriutan 2 wrote:There is a difference between Sunni and conservative on the chart. For the Iraqi (section of the political compass, there are really two political compasses for the country. One is for the religious political parties, which are either are Shia or Sunni. For the secular half of the compass, that half is divided into conservative and liberal, which mean different things than in most western democracies, especially the US. In Iraq, a liberal is someone who supports a free-market capitalist economy along with a liberal democracy. A conservative, on the other hand, tends to be more socially restrictive, somewhat regionalist, and can at times support more government intervention into the economy than liberals. To be frank, making a political compass for Iraqi politics is a futile effort because of how disjointed Iraqi politics is. Many of the religious parties, for example, are themselves conservative.

I also made a political compass for liberal democracies.

https://i.imgur.com/4EUZgEy.png

What is your relationship with Islam? Are you devout? What sort of politics would you support in Iraq?

Nuremgard wrote:What is your relationship with Islam? Are you devout? What sort of politics would you support in Iraq?

I am not a Muslim. I have never been a Muslim, and my family isn't Muslim either. My mom is a part of the Chaldean Catholic Church and my dad is a part of the Syriac Orthodox Church. I was raised Orthodox, but fell out of religion once I started reading the Bible. I am not Arab, but am Assyrian, a small minority that has been genocided multiple times throughout the 20th century and now mostly lives in diaspora. And I don't think I would support any of the current crop of politicians in the country. I have outlined my political beliefs on Iraq before, and while some come close to that, like the National Democratic Party or Ayad Allawi's Iraqi National Accord, the former is too obscure and the latter was involved in the Panama Papers, was involved in the bombing of schoolchildren, personally killed six people a few years ago, and operated the Iraqi National Accord as a de facto terrorist organization in the 90s and 00s, killing Baathists all over Europe with the support of the CIA.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Axeldonia

Vetriutan 2 wrote:I am not a Muslim. I have never been a Muslim, and my family isn't Muslim either. My mom is a part of the Chaldean Catholic Church and my dad is a part of the Syriac Orthodox Church. I was raised Orthodox, but fell out of religion once I started reading the Bible. I am not Arab, but am Assyrian, a small minority that has been genocided multiple times throughout the 20th century and now mostly lives in diaspora. And I don't think I would support any of the current crop of politicians in the country. I have outlined my political beliefs on Iraq before, and while some come close to that, like the National Democratic Party or Ayad Allawi's Iraqi National Accord, the former is too obscure and the latter was involved in the Panama Papers, was involved in the bombing of schoolchildren, personally killed six people a few years ago, and operated the Iraqi National Accord as a de facto terrorist organization in the 90s and 00s, killing Baathists all over Europe with the support of the CIA.

Thank you for elaborating. I am sorry to hear about the tribulations of your people.

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Percyton, Vetriutan 2

Nuremgard wrote:Thank you for elaborating. I am sorry to hear about the tribulations of your people.

On a lighter note, what are your thoughts on the political compass I made for western democracies?

https://i.imgur.com/4EUZgEy.png

Nuremgard, Axeldonia

Vetriutan 2 wrote:On a lighter note, what are your thoughts on the political compass I made for western democracies?

https://i.imgur.com/4EUZgEy.png

Makes sense. I'm just imagining where I'd place the parties of Nuremgard on it.

Nuremgard wrote:Makes sense. I'm just imagining where I'd place the parties of Nuremgard on it.

Whoosh.

The joke was about the neoliberal paradigm that exists in liberal democracies, especially in the US. That's why the libertarian-left, libertarian-right, and authoritarian-left are all gone and the left and right are replaced by the social market economy and laissez-faire capitalism, both capitalist economic systems. Not only that, but libertarian and authoritarian are replaced by liberal and conservative, which represents the dominance of liberal democracy in the western world.

Axeldonia

Vetriutan 2 wrote:Whoosh.

The joke was about the neoliberal paradigm that exists in liberal democracies, especially in the US. That's why the libertarian-left, libertarian-right, and authoritarian-left are all gone and the left and right are replaced by the social market economy and laissez-faire capitalism, both capitalist economic systems. Not only that, but libertarian and authoritarian are replaced by liberal and conservative, which represents the dominance of liberal democracy in the western world.

Whoosh indeed. I guess I didn't get the joke.

Axeldonia, Vetriutan 2

Nuremgard wrote:Whoosh indeed. I guess I didn't get the joke.

And I'm sorry if I am not making sense today. A combination of boredom and tiredness sparks brain fog in me.

Nuremgard, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Vetriutan 2 wrote:And I'm sorry if I am not making sense today. A combination of boredom and tiredness sparks brain fog in me.

I'm not 100% either. I'm on antibiotics and am due a root canal on Thursday.

Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton, Vetriutan 2

Nuremgard wrote:I'm not 100% either. I'm on antibiotics and am due a root canal on Thursday.

You should be good if they absolutely dope you up on nitrous oxide

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:You should be good if they absolutely dope you up on nitrous oxide

I'm nervous. He told me it's just like getting a deep filling. A lot of drilling but no pain as he'll numb me. The last time my dentist wanted to give me a root canal, she told me it would take months to complete and might not work. On top of that, she gave me a temporary filling which fell out and I was in absolute agony with it.

This guy is my new dentist and he said he can do the root canal in 45 minutes. So clearly the bitch beforehand was just trying to con me out of money.

Percyton

Hail.

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Axeldonia, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia, Minnesota Dakota, Mercunova, Percyton

Nuremgard wrote:I'm not 100% either. I'm on antibiotics and am due a root canal on Thursday.

That's annoying.

[spoiler=Nerdgasm]On a lighter note, I was playing a mod for a game I play called "Red World", which imagines a world where the Soviets won the Cold War and the US collapsed. Things start to get wonky. After Reagan dissolved the US, Bush Sr. decided to restore America, specifically in the South. This would come to be known as the Southern Remnants, which combines American values with a strange cult of personality in regards to Bush Sr. and the Republican Party. When you begin the game in 2010, the country is led under nationalist Donald Rumsfeld, and elections are due by November, where you can either reelect Rumsfeld, elect Jeb Bush, a conservative leader whose name I have forgotten, or the fascist David Duke.

Meanwhile, in the northeast of the country, there is the American People's Commonwealth, who are radical leftists that hate the Soviet Union and see it as a fascist regime. When you start the game, the country is under the rule of Noam Chomsky, who is currently embroiled in a political battle with the more pro-Soviet Central Committee. Everything is relatively normal until May 1, 2010, when the Twin Towers are demolished in a terrorist attack by the far-right. After that, there are three paths to take: investigate Noam Chomsky, pass the American Peace Act, or fire the New York governor. The first scenario involves the Central Committee trying to usurp Chomsky from power and installing a pro-Soviet regime, much like the one on the West Coast of the country. The second scenario involves Noam Chomsky manipulating the country's political circumstances to implement his dream of anarcho-syndicalism, which he actually holds in real life. The third, and weirdest, scenario involves Bernie slowly coming into power through political manipulation. By the end of that scenario, Bill Gates, who heads the Technology Council, finds some incriminating information about Bernie. If you release that information, Bernie becomes massively unpopular and Bill Gates leads the nation. If you don't release it, moderate socialist Bernie Sanders takes control of the country. After that, things become strange. Bernie becomes more autocratic and postpones elections indefinitely, essentially becoming a dictator. And he is no benevolent dictator, as by around that time, he starts to slowly become a Naz Bol.

The UK is also interesting. In this timeline, the Social Democrats don't merge with the Lib Dems and currently hold power. After some time, the PM is shot and is replaced by Shirley Williams. But that isn't all. The Queen tries to take absolute control over the UK, and it is up to you whether she succeeds or fails. If she succeeds, then she slowly takes control over the UK until she is essentially absolute monarch. While this is an interesting path, the worst part about it is that Charles I will lead the UK after the Queen dies. If you don't the Queen storm the House of Commons, however, things set stranger. You can hold a snap election and have a few choices on who to elect, those choices being electing the Social Democrats, the Liberals, the Tories, Labour, or Independent Labour. The two interesting paths, in my opinion, are Independent Labour and the Tories. Under Independent Labour, you can slowly transition the UK to adopt revolutionary socialism, which is interesting, or stay under Corbyn, which isn't interesting. Under the Tories, you can maintain the UK's democratic government, which is boring, or allow the far-right to come into power through a false-flag attack, which is interesting. And you have two choices in regards to the far-right, those choices involving either allowing some generic fascist movement to take control or to allow Theresa May, who is an isolationist clerical fascist in this timeline, to take power. If you do that, May will set up concentration camps to rid the country of non-whites, homosexuals, and Muslims.

And I'm sorry is not everything I am saying is correct. I am still yet to try out everything in the game, and I am feeling pretty foggy right now.[/spoiler]

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Confederal States

Bearlong wrote:Hail.

It's been awhile.

Bearlong, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, Percyton

Kalaron wrote:Just to comment on some things;

1) America's international image is fine, IMO. Electing Trump to office is no more of a damning mark than Brexit was, considering that Russian Disinformation attempts have been suspected at the heart of both. Furthermore, some of what he's done with regards to how the US is viewed (Demanding other NATO members fulfill their obligations, for example) has been fine enough and we've ultimately kept our foothold in the Pacific through Japan and SK (The latter of which benefits from the US's THAAD while the former benefits from our military). Admittedly, some prestige slippage might have occurred in Europe, but I'm convinced that in the coming years some EU members will likely elect divisive leaders unless they're very careful due to the continued Russian Cyber-Attacks.

2) Saying either president is responsible for "destroying" ISIS is rather strange. While Obama did give the order to dispense aid to the Coalitions militaries, it's hardly impressive or commendable that they've been pushing them back. Perhaps it's just a matter of semantics, but if one is to give responsibility to Obama for letting his generals command the military in this situation then I would object to denying Trump that same credit.

I think the international community will tell you it’s not fine lol

Nuremgard, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Vetriutan 2

And that's the flag settled.

Vista Major wrote:It's been awhile.

Yes, it has.

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, Mercunova

Yukona wrote:I think the international community will tell you it’s not fine lol

To be fair though, the UK and US seem to have gone mad together with Brexit and Trump respectively.

Minnesota Dakota

Nuremgard wrote:I'm nervous. He told me it's just like getting a deep filling. A lot of drilling but no pain as he'll numb me. The last time my dentist wanted to give me a root canal, she told me it would take months to complete and might not work. On top of that, she gave me a temporary filling which fell out and I was in absolute agony with it.

This guy is my new dentist and he said he can do the root canal in 45 minutes. So clearly the bitch beforehand was just trying to con me out of money.

Trust me, as long as they dope you, you'll feel nothing (had a root canal myself 1-2 years ago), though recovering feels like sh*t as you come down and it feels like half your face is either swollen or drooping.

Bearlong wrote:And that's the flag settled.

Yes, it has.

yey

Bearlong, Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, Yukona

Updated Factbooks from Cofn Office Of The Speaker

CoFN Law Code

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=937644

The Constitution

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=937643

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia, Minnesota Dakota, Percyton

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:Trust me, as long as they dope you, you'll feel nothing (had a root canal myself 1-2 years ago), though recovering feels like sh*t as you come down and it feels like half your face is either swollen or drooping.

yey

The tooth I was gonna' get my previous root canal in had to be taken out but it's an experience I never want to repeat. I have had teeth out before and each time it didn't bother me. But this one gave me the most pain I've ever felt in my life, no exaggeration.

I need this root canal. It's a prominent tooth at the front of my mouth. I cant afford to lose it.

Jaslandia, Minnesota Dakota, Percyton, Confederal States

Bearlong wrote:Hail.

Bearlong! Great to see you again! It's been too long!

Bearlong, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota

Hi my name is James i am Karola's Husband. I had to admit Her into memorial cancer institute earlier she started to have pain so intense that she felt like she was going to die. She is still alive, (thank god) the pain has receded but she is basically living off of oxygen and pain killers

P.S. i am only writing this message because she told me to.

P.P.S if you want more info then tell me and i will give you updates on her.

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Aquatur, Vista Major, Axeldonia, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, Mercunova, Confederal States

Jmonte wrote:Hi my name is James i am Karola's Husband. I had to admit Her into memorial cancer institute earlier she started to have pain so intense that she felt like she was going to die. She is still alive, (thank god) the pain has receded but she is basically living off of oxygen and pain killers

P.S. i am only writing this message because she told me to.

P.P.S if you want more info then tell me and i will give you updates on her.

We're all pulling for her; she is in our thoughts. Best of everything <3

Jaslandia, Aquatur, Vista Major, Axeldonia, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, Confederal States

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:

- 1955 – Contralto Marian Anderson becomes the first person of color to perform at the Metropolitan Opera in Giuseppe Verdi's Un ballo in maschera. Thanks to the prejudice of Rudolf Bing, white women born in the United States, such as Beverly Sills, would have to wait until 1975.

Huh. That's an interesting reversal. Opera: The only field where African-Americans made it before White Americans.

Bearlong wrote:Hail.

Bearlong! Welcome back! Good to see you again!

Jmonte wrote:Hi my name is James i am Karola's Husband. I had to admit Her into memorial cancer institute earlier she started to have pain so intense that she felt like she was going to die. She is still alive, (thank god) the pain has receded but she is basically living off of oxygen and pain killers

P.S. i am only writing this message because she told me to.

P.P.S if you want more info then tell me and i will give you updates on her.

Karola is Fuhrmania, right? I'm sorry to hear she's not doing well. Tell her that she'll be in our thoughts and prayers (for those of us who are religious, at least), and that we hope she gets better. And thank you for the update; let us know if anything changes.

Bearlong, Aquatur, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, Mercunova, Confederal States

Jmonte wrote:Hi my name is James i am Karola's Husband. I had to admit Her into memorial cancer institute earlier she started to have pain so intense that she felt like she was going to die. She is still alive, (thank god) the pain has receded but she is basically living off of oxygen and pain killers

P.S. i am only writing this message because she told me to.

P.P.S if you want more info then tell me and i will give you updates on her.

We all will continue to hope for her. We all must stay strong. She will beat cancer. She will live on.

Jaslandia, Aquatur, Axeldonia, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova, Confederal States, Spanelsko

Minnesota Dakota wrote:We all will continue to hope for her. We all must stay strong. She will beat cancer. She will live on.

I know she will. I need her and so does kari and jakoh

She is talking now and moving, tommorow she will be reviving another dose of chemotherapy.

Jaslandia, Aquatur, Axeldonia, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, Confederal States

Vetriutan 2 wrote:

[spoiler=Nerdgasm]On a lighter note, I was playing a mod for a game I play called "Red World", which imagines a world where the Soviets won the Cold War and the US collapsed. Things start to get wonky. After Reagan dissolved the US, Bush Sr. decided to restore America, specifically in the South. This would come to be known as the Southern Remnants, which combines American values with a strange cult of personality in regards to Bush Sr. and the Republican Party. When you begin the game in 2010, the country is led under nationalist Donald Rumsfeld, and elections are due by November, where you can either reelect Rumsfeld, elect Jeb Bush, a conservative leader whose name I have forgotten, or the fascist David Duke.

Meanwhile, in the northeast of the country, there is the American People's Commonwealth, who are radical leftists that hate the Soviet Union and see it as a fascist regime. When you start the game, the country is under the rule of Noam Chomsky, who is currently embroiled in a political battle with the more pro-Soviet Central Committee. Everything is relatively normal until May 1, 2010, when the Twin Towers are demolished in a terrorist attack by the far-right. After that, there are three paths to take: investigate Noam Chomsky, pass the American Peace Act, or fire the New York governor. The first scenario involves the Central Committee trying to usurp Chomsky from power and installing a pro-Soviet regime, much like the one on the West Coast of the country. The second scenario involves Noam Chomsky manipulating the country's political circumstances to implement his dream of anarcho-syndicalism, which he actually holds in real life. The third, and weirdest, scenario involves Bernie slowly coming into power through political manipulation. By the end of that scenario, Bill Gates, who heads the Technology Council, finds some incriminating information about Bernie. If you release that information, Bernie becomes massively unpopular and Bill Gates leads the nation. If you don't release it, moderate socialist Bernie Sanders takes control of the country. After that, things become strange. Bernie becomes more autocratic and postpones elections indefinitely, essentially becoming a dictator. And he is no benevolent dictator, as by around that time, he starts to slowly become a Naz Bol.

The UK is also interesting. In this timeline, the Social Democrats don't merge with the Lib Dems and currently hold power. After some time, the PM is shot and is replaced by Shirley Williams. But that isn't all. The Queen tries to take absolute control over the UK, and it is up to you whether she succeeds or fails. If she succeeds, then she slowly takes control over the UK until she is essentially absolute monarch. While this is an interesting path, the worst part about it is that Charles I will lead the UK after the Queen dies. If you don't the Queen storm the House of Commons, however, things set stranger. You can hold a snap election and have a few choices on who to elect, those choices being electing the Social Democrats, the Liberals, the Tories, Labour, or Independent Labour. The two interesting paths, in my opinion, are Independent Labour and the Tories. Under Independent Labour, you can slowly transition the UK to adopt revolutionary socialism, which is interesting, or stay under Corbyn, which isn't interesting. Under the Tories, you can maintain the UK's democratic government, which is boring, or allow the far-right to come into power through a false-flag attack, which is interesting. And you have two choices in regards to the far-right, those choices involving either allowing some generic fascist movement to take control or to allow Theresa May, who is an isolationist clerical fascist in this timeline, to take power. If you do that, May will set up concentration camps to rid the country of non-whites, homosexuals, and Muslims.

And I'm sorry is not everything I am saying is correct. I am still yet to try out everything in the game, and I am feeling pretty foggy right now.[/spoiler]

Hail papa Chomsky

Axeldonia wrote:Hail papa Chomsky

A B O L I S H--T H E--C E N T R A L--C O M M I T T E E

D I R E C T--D E M O C R A C Y

I N T E R N A T I O N A L--W O R K E R S--O F--T H E--W O R L D :--A N A R C H O - S Y N D I C A L I S T--F A C T I O N

In short, kill all tankies. And Bernie and his Naz Bol gang who probably did 5/1 anyway.

Axeldonia, Confederal States

His work is influential but I hope I never have to reference Chomsky in an academic paper ever again. (ahaha what am I talking about the man dominates 80% of media textbooks)

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, Vetriutan 2

Lex Caledonia wrote:His work is influential but I hope I never have to reference Chomsky in an academic paper ever again. (ahaha what am I talking about the man dominates 80% of media textbooks)

He's done some good work in linguistics and cognitive science, I'll give him that. He should stick with that stuff.

Lex Caledonia, Minnesota Dakota

The Issue

Due to the recent capture of a foreign terrorist in Spanelsko, high-level military officials want the government to authorize torture to extract information about other terrorist activities.

“Torture is the only way that we can get these idiots to tell us anything,” says General Mohammed (WTF? is he even from UFIR?) Glenn of Spanelsko’s special forces division. “After all, violence is the only shared language we have with these scum.”

Russkov Soviet

Oh btw small reform for UFIR we are no longer a dictatorship, we are democratic dictatorship.

Spanelsko wrote:Oh btw small reform for UFIR we are no longer a dictatorship, we are democratic dictatorship.

Isn't that a contradiction?

Minnesota Dakota, Spanelsko

Jaslandia wrote:Isn't that a contradiction?

weirdly enough it has real-world precedent. Mao used the term.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, Spanelsko

Unfallious wrote:weirdly enough it has real-world precedent. Mao used the term.

And Mao's government was hardly democratic, so I don't think that's a good example. Maoist China was as much a 'democratic dictatorship' as North Korea is a 'Democratic People's Republic'.

Thinking more about it, I suppose a 'democratic dictatorship' in a literal sense would be a government where a single person is elected by the people or legislature to wield absolute authority. The only problems with this are:

A: Dictatorship is rule by one man, but if the people or legislature elect the dictator, then they have a part in ruling too, so it's not just rule by one man.

B: If the dictator is all-powerful with no checks on his authority, then what's to prevent him from ending elections and dissolving the legislature?

Ancient Rome had a system like this, supposedly only for emergencies, and we all know how that went.

Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, Mercunova

Jaslandia wrote:And Mao's government was hardly democratic, so I don't think that's a good example. Maoist China was as much a 'democratic dictatorship' as North Korea is a 'Democratic People's Republic'.

Thinking more about it, I suppose a 'democratic dictatorship' in a literal sense would be a government where a single person is elected by the people or legislature to wield absolute authority. The only problems with this are:

A: Dictatorship is rule by one man, but if the people or legislature elect the dictator, then they have a part in ruling too, so it's not just rule by one man.

B: If the dictator is all-powerful with no checks on his authority, then what's to prevent him from ending elections and dissolving the legislature?

Ancient Rome had a system like this, supposedly only for emergencies, and we all know how that went.

Also, Star Wars and Palpatine.

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Vista Major

Jaslandia wrote:Isn't that a contradiction?

My nation is a contradiction....

Jaslandia

Minnesota Dakota wrote:Also, Star Wars and Palpatine.

And he ended up dissolving the Senate with ease, so how'd that work out?

Minnesota Dakota

Well as for the whole democratic dictatorship what i forgot to add in the post i made in the RP.

Each leader that can be elected needs these things= Be a General, (or officer from navy or the air forces) Christian (either Orthodox or Catholic) First class citizen. And member of either Communist, Fascist, Religious, Monarchist Party.

Each of them can rule 40 years. (Leader also needs to have age over 20)

Citizen Class section complete.

BTW did anything interesting happened?

Also good luck for the person with cancer, i feel bad for her.....

Jaslandia wrote:And he ended up dissolving the Senate with ease, so how'd that work out?

I AM THE SENATE

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

[spoiler=Today is January 8 and today are:]

Today is January 8 and today are:

- Babinden (Belarus, Russia)

- Coming of Age Day (Japan)

- Commonwealth Day (Northern Mariana Islands)

- Earth's Rotation Day

- Epiphany (Colombia)

- National Argyle Day (United States)

- National Bubble Bath Day (United States)

- National Clean Off Your Desk Day (United States)

- National English Toffee Day (United States)

- National JoyGerm Day (United States)

- National Winter Skin Relief Day (United States)

- Plough Monday (Europe)

- Show & Tell At Work Day

- Typing Day (International observance)

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 0307 – Jin Huidi, Chinese Emperor of the Jin dynasty, is poisoned and succeeded by Jin Huaidi.

- 0387 – Siyaj K'ak' conquers Waka.

- 0871 – Alfred the Great leads a West Saxon army to repel an invasion by Danelaw Vikings.

- 1297 – François Grimaldi, disguised as a monk, leads his men to capture the fortress protecting the Rock of Monaco, establishing his family as the rulers of Monaco.

- 1454 – The papal bull Romanus Pontifex awards the Kingdom of Portugal exclusive trade and colonization rights to all of Africa south of Cape Bojador.

- 1499 – Louis XII of France marries Anne of Brittany in accordance with a law set by his predecessor, Charles VIII.

- 1547 – The first Lithuanian-language book, Simple Words of Catechism, is published in Königsberg.

- 1735 – Premiere performance of George Frideric Handel's Ariodante at the Royal Opera House, Covent Garden.

- 1746 – Second Jacobite rising: Bonnie Prince Charlie occupies Stirling.

- 1790 – George Washington delivers the first State of the Union address in New York City.

- 1806 – Cape Colony becomes a British colony.

- 1811 – An unsuccessful slave revolt is led by Charles Deslondes in St. Charles and St. James, Louisiana.

- 1815 – War of 1812: Battle of New Orleans: Andrew Jackson leads American forces in victory over the British.

- 1828 – The Democratic Party of the United States is organized.

- 1835 – The United States national debt is zero for the only time.

- 1863 – American Civil War: Second Battle of Springfield

- 1867 – African American men are granted the right to vote in Washington, D.C.

- 1877 – Crazy Horse and his warriors fight their last battle against the United States Cavalry at Wolf Mountain, Montana Territory.

- 1889 – Herman Hollerith is issued US patent #395,791 for the 'Art of Applying Statistics' — his punched card calculator.

- 1904 – The Blackstone Library is dedicated, marking the beginning of the Chicago Public Library system.

- 1912 – The African National Congress is founded.

- 1918 – U.S. President Woodrow Wilson announces his "Fourteen Points" for the aftermath of World War I.

- 1920 – The steel strike of 1919 ends in a complete failure for the Amalgamated Association of Iron, Steel and Tin Workers labor union.

- 1926 – Crown Prince Nguyễn Phúc Vĩnh Thuỵ ascends the throne, the last monarch of Vietnam.

- 1926 – Abdul-Aziz ibn Saud was crowned King of Hejaz.

- 1936 – Kashf-e hijab decree is enforced by Reza Shah ordering the police to physically remove the Hijab from any woman in public.

- 1940 – World War II: Britain introduces food rationing.

- 1945 – World War II: Philippine Commonwealth troops under the Philippine Commonwealth Army units enter the province of Ilocos Sur in Northern Luzon and attack Japanese Imperial forces.

- 1956 – Operation Auca: Five U.S. missionaries are killed by the Huaorani of Ecuador shortly after making contact with them.

- 1961 – In France a referendum supports Charles de Gaulle's policies in Algeria.

- 1963 – Leonardo da Vinci's Mona Lisa is exhibited in the United States for the first time, at the National Gallery of Art in Washington, D.C.

- 1964 – President Lyndon B. Johnson declares a "War on Poverty" in the United States.

- 1972 – Bowing to international pressure, President of Pakistan Zulfikar Ali Bhutto releases Bengali leader Sheikh Mujibur Rahman from prison, who had been arrested after declaring the independence of Bangladesh.

- 1973 – Soviet space mission Luna 21 is launched.

- 1973 – Watergate scandal: The trial of seven men accused of illegal entry into Democratic Party headquarters at Watergate begins.

- 1975 – Ella T. Grasso becomes Governor of Connecticut, the first woman to serve as a Governor in the United States other than by succeeding her husband.

- 1977 – Three bombs explode in Moscow, Russia, Soviet Union, within 37 minutes, killing seven. The bombings are attributed to an Armenian separatist group.

- 1979 – Password Plus debuts on NBC.

- 1981 – A local farmer reports a UFO sighting in Trans-en-Provence, France, claimed to be "perhaps the most completely and carefully documented sighting of all time".

- 1982 – Breakup of the Bell System: AT&T agrees to divest itself of twenty-two subdivisions.

- 1989 – Kegworth air disaster: British Midland Flight 92, a Boeing 737-400, crashes into the M1 motorway, killing 47 of the 126 people on board.

- 1994 – Russian cosmonaut Valeri Polyakov on Soyuz TM-18 leaves for Mir. He would stay on the space station until March 22, 1995, for a record 437 days in space.

- 1996 – An Antonov An-32 cargo aircraft crashes into a crowded market in Kinshasa, Zaire, killing up to 223 on the ground; two of six crew members are also killed.

- 2002 – President George W. Bush signs into law the No Child Left Behind Act.

- 2003 – Turkish Airlines Flight 634 crashes near Diyarbakır Airport, Turkey, killing the entire crew and 70 of the 75 passengers.

- 2003 – Air Midwest Flight 5481 crashes at Charlotte-Douglas Airport, Charlotte, North Carolina, killing all 21 people on board.

- 2004 – The RMS Queen Mary 2, the largest ocean liner ever built, is christened by her namesake's granddaughter, Queen Elizabeth II.

- 2005 – The nuclear sub USS San Francisco collides at full speed with an undersea mountain south of Guam. One man is killed, but the sub surfaces and is repaired.

- 2009 – A 6.1-magnitude earthquake in northern Costa Rica kills 15 people and injures 32.

- 2010 – Gunmen from an offshoot the Front for the Liberation of the Enclave of Cabinda attack a bus carrying the Togo national football team on its way to the 2010 Africa Cup of Nations, killing three.

- 2011 – The attempted assassination of Arizona Representative Gabrielle Giffords and subsequent shooting in Casas Adobes, Arizona, in which five people were shot dead.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1823 – Alfred Russel Wallace, Welsh-English geographer, biologist, and explorer

- 1867 – Emily Greene Balch, American economist and author, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1891 – Walther Bothe, German physicist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1894 – Maximilian Kolbe, Polish martyr and saint

- 1909 – Willy Millowitsch, German actor, director, and screenwriter

- 1912 – José Ferrer, Puerto Rican-American actor and director

- 1923 – Joseph Weizenbaum, German-American computer scientist and author

- 1934 – Jacques Anquetil, French cyclist

- 1935 – Elvis Presley, American singer, guitarist, and actor

- 1937 – Shirley Bassey, Welsh singer

- 1941 – Graham Chapman, English actor and screenwriter (Monty Python)

- 1942 – Stephen Hawking, English physicist and author

- 1947 – David Bowie, English singer-songwriter, producer, and actor

- 1967 – R. Kelly, American singer-songwriter, record producer, and former professional basketball player

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Quote of the day

Common sense is not so common.

- Voltaire -

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