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Nuremgard wrote:That's pretty much Scottish nationalism lol. I'd argue your use of language. "Separate" and "secede" imply we're a region trying to escape our rightful rulers. I simply want my country to regain its natural status as an independent nation once again.

But I doubt Scotland will ever leave the UK anyway. Stats show that most English people up here voted No the last time. As long as we have a permanent presence of English settlers, Scotland will never be independent. And that's not me being anti-English, that's me just being factual.

I could call Scottish nationalism nazism and that implies it's a national socialist movement but it doesn't mean it's true so whatever phrases I say are at your own interpretation

Jaslandia

Yukona wrote:I could call Scottish nationalism nazism and that implies it's a national socialist movement but it doesn't mean it's true so whatever phrases I say are at your own interpretation

True. Guess we'll never see eye to eye on this issue.

Isn't politics fun? All this discussion and nobody ever changes their position.

Jaslandia, Yukona

Nuremgard wrote:I doubt it. At least all you guys over there can get behind being American and also being proud of being from certain states. I cannot get behind being British and many others up here cant. So if Scotland remains in the UK, I'm always going to feel alienated by the British political system and British identity in general.

Well, that's the problem with having a federal/decentralized government no matter where you go.

People will become more in tune with their local government than the federal/national government, and that runs the risk of people wanting independence from the "bean counters in Washin'ton" or the "Tea sippers in London".

Despite us saying "Hey, we're Americans", we pay more attention to how we're Hoosiers, Texans, Californians, etc. We already have small secessionist movements in Texas, California, and even Alaska because of the decentralization and culture it has cultivated.

Yukona

Friedensreich wrote:Well, that's the problem with having a federal/decentralized government no matter where you go.

People will become more in tune with their local government than the federal/national government, and that runs the risk of people wanting independence from the "bean counters in Washin'ton" or the "Tea sippers in London".

Despite us saying "Hey, we're Americans", we pay more attention to how we're Hoosiers, Texans, Californians, etc. We already have small secessionist movements in Texas, California, and even Alaska because of the decentralization and culture it has cultivated.

The UK is a heavily centralised state, however, and the Westminster elite treat Scotland with contempt. The Scottish Parliament has few important powers and our MPs in London can always be outvoted by English MPs. It's a sh!tty system.

Yukona

Nuremgard wrote:True. Guess we'll never see eye to eye on this issue.

Isn't politics fun? All this discussion and nobody ever changes their position.

I see it more as a 'teach a man to fish' situation. You can give him the tools and ideas to change his mind but you just have to hope he uses them, and of course he has the right not to.

Nuremgard

Nuremgard wrote:The UK is a heavily centralised state, however, and the Westminster elite treat Scotland with contempt. The Scottish Parliament has few important powers and our MPs in London can always be outvoted by English MPs. It's a sh!tty system.

Same sh!t, different smell here in the US. Federal laws always override state laws, and many people critique Congress because of their distance from home.

"Why let them elite bean counters in Washin'ton decide our laws here in Utah when we can decide our own laws?"

Yukona wrote:I see it more as a 'teach a man to fish' situation. You can give him the tools and ideas to change his mind but you just have to hope he uses them, and of course he has the right not to.

True. I'm a bitter SOB so if Scotland does end up deciding it's better off as part of the UK, I'll just need to live with it. Doesn't mean I have to like it though.

Friedensreich wrote:Same sh!t, different smell here in the US. Federal laws always override state laws, and many people critique Congress because of their distance from home.

"Why let them elite bean counters in Washin'ton decide our laws here in Utah when we can decide our own laws?"

At least your bean counters are American. Ours come from a different country. Yes, I know the UK is legally a country and everyone in it is British but as far as I'm concerned, Westminster is an English Parliament full of English MPs, and is therefore a foreign power exercising authority over my country.

The English think it's fine because the boot's not on the other foot.

Nuremgard wrote:At least your bean counters are American. Ours come from a different country. Yes, I know the UK is legally a country and everyone in it is British but as far as I'm concerned, Westminster is an English Parliament full of English MPs, and is therefore a foreign power exercising authority over my country.

The English think it's fine because the boot's not on the other foot.

*cough*West Lothian Question*cough*

Jaslandia

Yukona wrote:*cough*West Lothian Question*cough*

Mate, that's redundant. English MPs make decisions on Scotland's behalf everyday on reserved matters. And how much they decide to spend on England's public services has a direct impact on Scotland's budget via the Barnett Formula.

So it's not a case of Scottish MPs having unfair influence. It's English MPs making decisions for the whole UK.

Nuremgard wrote:Mate, that's redundant. English MPs make decisions on Scotland's behalf everyday on reserved matters. And how much they decide to spend on England's public services has a direct impact on Scotland's budget via the Barnett Formula.

So it's not a case of Scottish MPs having unfair influence. It's English MPs making decisions for the whole UK.

I look at it as British MPs but the WLQ isn't wholly redundant

Yukona wrote:I look at it as British MPs but the WLQ isn't wholly redundant

It's easy for you to see them all as British MPs because you live in the dominant country of the Union. Your country has the most MPs, your country is where the Parliament is, Westminster doubles as an English legislature.

Somehow I believe you'd see things differently if it was Scotland that had been the dominant partner in the Union, where England had only 59 MPs and was always outvoted by superior numbers of Scots MPs.

Nuremgard wrote:It's easy for you to see them all as British MPs because you live in the dominant country of the Union. Your country has the most MPs, your country is where the Parliament is, Westminster doubles as an English legislature.

Somehow I believe you'd see things differently if it was Scotland that had been the dominant partner in the Union, where England had only 59 MPs and was always outvoted by superior numbers of Scots MPs.

You know, you guys are arguing about Scotland and I'm just loving the meme-filled video about Scotland by CGP Grey. :P

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Yukona

Friedensreich wrote:You know, you guys are arguing about Scotland and I'm just loving the meme-filled video about Scotland by CGP Grey. :P

I like his vids but didn't like his arse-licking one about the monarchy.

Nuremgard wrote:I like his vids but didn't like his arse-licking one about the monarchy.

The True Cost of the Royal Family Explained?

Yeah, don't really like how the monarchy still exists, but the Queen is more of a cultural icon than an actual political agent.

Yukona

Friedensreich wrote:You know, you guys are arguing about Scotland and I'm just loving the meme-filled video about Scotland by CGP Grey. :P

This one?

https://youtu.be/p3HnMLq8m9U

Friedensreich

Friedensreich wrote:The True Cost of the Royal Family Explained?

Yeah, don't really like how the monarchy still exists, but the Queen is more of a cultural icon than an actual political agent.

The Queen still has access to state secrets and meets with the PM weekly. Prince Charles also pesters ministers with letters on numerous subjects. And there's the disgusting luxury they live in at taxpayer's expense too.

Jaslandia wrote:This one?

https://youtu.be/p3HnMLq8m9U

Yep!

Nuremgard wrote:The Queen still has access to state secrets and meets with the PM weekly. Prince Charles also pesters ministers with letters on numerous subjects. And there's the disgusting luxury they live in at taxpayer's expense too.

But in the same video CGP Grey explains that Parliament makes more than 4x the cost of the royal family from the revenue of crown land.

Jaslandia, Yukona

Jaslandia wrote:This one?

https://youtu.be/p3HnMLq8m9U

The title of that video is a misnomer. Scotland was always part of Great Britain because it's an island. What he really means is "how Scotland helped form the United Kingdom."

Also, CGP Grey speaks as if Scotland itself was impoverished by the failed Panama colony. It was not. The imperial adventure was financed by private money. Citizens of all classes invested in the scheme but it went tits up due to the reasons CGP Grey mentioned but it also went awry because the King refused to give any aid to Scotland.

Scotland was bribed/forced into joining the Union as the English government promised to pay off the Scottish nobility's debts which they'd incurred from the scheme. And from what I've read, troops were also stationed on the border to "persuade" the Scots nobility to vote the right way. Furthermore, the English had a vested interest in finally subduing a troublesome neighbour which could have allied with France and which also could have chosen a different successor to the Scottish crown.

Friedensreich wrote:Yep!

But in the same video CGP Grey explains that Parliament makes more than 4x the cost of the royal family from the revenue of crown land.

So what? We could abolish the royal family and keep the revenue from the Crown Estate. The Queen does not own it nor does the government. But if the royals were gotten rid of, the government could take direct ownership of the Estate.

Friedensreich

Nuremgard wrote:So what? We could abolish the royal family and keep the revenue from the Crown Estate. The Queen does not own it nor does the government. But if the royals were gotten rid of, the government could take direct ownership of the Estate.

Hey, you Scots can lead a Republican revolution. In the meantime, I'm going to sit comfortably in the US and rave about Northern Irish reunification with the Republic of Ireland.

Nuremgard

Nuremgard wrote:So what? We could abolish the royal family and keep the revenue from the Crown Estate. The Queen does not own it nor does the government. But if the royals were gotten rid of, the government could take direct ownership of the Estate.

You may leave the union but you won't take my monarchy you thieving highlander!

Nuremgard

Friedensreich wrote:Hey, you Scots can lead a Republican revolution. In the meantime, I'm going to sit comfortably in the US and rave about Northern Irish reunification with the Republic of Ireland.

I'd also like to see Ireland united and I hope that Scotland does become a republic in the event of independence.

Yukona wrote:You may leave the union but you won't take my monarchy you thieving highlander!

I'm no Highlander. :P And it's "our" monarchy, no? She is after all the Queen of Great Britain. And if Scotland does become an independent republic, we'll be keeping our share of the Crown Estate, thank you very much. You lot can throw money at the bloodsuckers if you want lol but I will want no part in it.

Speaking of British hegemony, here's the history of Iraq!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tfS2jimyd-vyaZAKIb_-OgA-Ovfu0Pdh1bm_tP79Ve4/edit?usp=sharing

Nuremgard

Vista Major wrote:Took me forever

Aw man, I had hoped the reaction would be bad and Katerina would know so she could have a huge military parade :P

Friedensreich wrote:Aw man, I had hoped the reaction would be bad and Katerina would know so she could have a huge military parade :P

Don't worry my dude, the level of zealous "Lets spread the Ideology" people in my nation is growing fast and I'm fairly certain their not happy that our friends to the north are going awoll against their citizens.

Vista I'm going to have so much fun randomly opening automated doors in your public offices :P Gonna have them morse random messages

Vista Major, The United Providences Of Perland

Friedensreich wrote:How ya dern'?

Hail the Sphere! Let us spread the ideology together!

Vista Major

Nuremgard wrote:I'd also like to see Ireland united and I hope that Scotland does become a republic in the event of independence.

I'm no Highlander. :P And it's "our" monarchy, no? She is after all the Queen of Great Britain. And if Scotland does become an independent republic, we'll be keeping our share of the Crown Estate, thank you very much. You lot can throw money at the bloodsuckers if you want lol but I will want no part in it.

You're just picking at things now, man. People say don't take "my" freedom but it doesn't mean it's just theirs and not anyone elses. You can also take your share of the government debt.

Friedensreich wrote:How ya dern'?

We'll survive

Now that I retook the 16Personality quiz, I feel emboldened

Yukona

Does anyone have any ideas what I should name my Medieval English nation?

Penguania And Antarctica

Vista Major wrote:We'll survive

Now that I retook the 16Personality quiz, I feel emboldened

What was your result?

Yukona

Friedensreich wrote:What was your result?

I got ENFP-T and they apparently call it "Campaigner"

The crudely drawn Onocarcan Alphabet

http://i.imgur.com/HXmtfas.png

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Onocarcass wrote:The crudely drawn Onocarcan Alphabet

http://i.imgur.com/HXmtfas.png

Looks nice. Interesting letters.

Percyton

Yukona wrote:I got ENFP-T and they apparently call it "Campaigner"

Same here. ENFPs are the best tbh.

The United Providences Of Perland, Yukona

The 1st Percyton Q&A has begun! Ask your questions throughout the day, and I'll try to answer them as soon as I can. For reference, here's the Q&A Factbook where all past and future questions will go. Feel free to ask for follow-up or more information about any questions in the Factbook as well.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=percyton/detail=factbook/id=849882

To make it easier for me to find your question, you could quote this post, or mention my name in your post (like this: Percyton).

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Yukona

Friedensreich wrote:Same here. ENFPs are the best tbh.

Oh really? It seemed fairly true to me, I am a Pisces after all. If only I could have a SO that astrology.com says I can unleash my relentless sexual passion on :^(

The United Providences Of Perland

Just a quick question to American based players with experience in the matter. Would you say Wyoming is more of a conservative or liberal state, because I had some very unpleasant experiences driving through it last month?

Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Percyton wrote:The 1st Percyton Q&A has begun! Ask your questions throughout the day, and I'll try to answer them as soon as I can. For reference, here's the Q&A Factbook where all past and future questions will go. Feel free to ask for follow-up or more information about any questions in the Factbook as well.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=percyton/detail=factbook/id=849882

To make it easier for me to find your question, you could quote this post, or mention my name in your post (like this: Percyton).

Are their engines that solely commit crime? And furthermore, are they and their drivers charged with the crime, just the driver for technically operating them, or just the engine for having the intent. Even simple crimes like theft or battery.

Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Killdash wrote:Just a quick question to American based players with experience in the matter. Would you say Wyoming is more of a conservative or liberal state, because I had some very unpleasant experiences driving through it last month?

Wyoming is definitely a conservative state; Republicans dominate the state government, and the state hasn't voted for a Democratic presidential candidate since 1964. Still, Wyoming was also the first state in the U.S. to give women the right to vote, so they may still have a hidden liberal streak in them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyoming#Politics

Why'd you have a bad experience driving through there? I would think the people would be nice enough regardless of political affiliation.

Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

Killdash wrote:Just a quick question to American based players with experience in the matter. Would you say Wyoming is more of a conservative or liberal state, because I had some very unpleasant experiences driving through it last month?

What even is a Wyoming question

Yukona wrote:Oh really? It seemed fairly true to me, I am a Pisces after all. If only I could have a SO that astrology.com says I can unleash my relentless sexual passion on :^(

Astrology is as real as Hogwarts

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Also, I'm back from a great trip! I'm sure you all missed me.

Jaslandia, Killdash, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Percyton

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:Are their engines that solely commit crime? And furthermore, are they and their drivers charged with the crime, just the driver for technically operating them, or just the engine for having the intent. Even simple crimes like theft or battery.

Edward: Are there engines that solely commit crimes? If there are, I haven't met any. While some engines like Diesel and Diesel 10 seem to do nothing but cause trouble, they rarely cross the line into actual crime. In the case of a crime, if an engine supported the crime or cooperated with it, they'll be punished along with the Driver and Fireman; if an engine was more of an unwilling partner in the crime, just the Driver and Fireman will be charged.

Toby: If an engine does need to be punished, usually the railway controllers handle it themselves. However, if the controller doesn't want to deal with it, or if the crime is of a far more serious nature, there is a separate criminal justice system just for sentient vehicles.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

Percyton wrote:Edward: Are there engines that solely commit crimes? If there are, I haven't met any. While some engines like Diesel and Diesel 10 seem to do nothing but cause trouble, they rarely cross the line into actual crime. In the case of a crime, if an engine supported the crime or cooperated with it, they'll be punished along with the Driver and Fireman; if an engine was more of an unwilling partner in the crime, just the Driver and Fireman will be charged.

Toby: If an engine does need to be punished, usually the railway controllers handle it themselves. However, if the controller doesn't want to deal with it, or if the crime is of a far more serious nature, there is a separate criminal justice system just for sentient vehicles.

A separate criminal justice system? How does that work? Is there a special prison for sentient vehicles? And what is the maximum punishment a sentient vehicle can receive?

Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Percyton

Killdash wrote:Just a quick question to American based players with experience in the matter. Would you say Wyoming is more of a conservative or liberal state, because I had some very unpleasant experiences driving through it last month?

Conservative. It's the least populous state in the nation and tends to vote more conservative/neoliberal with a traditionalist twist way.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

The fact that Percy isn't #1 for Most Advanced Public Transport in The Confederacy of Free Nations is, I'm sure, a shock to all of us.

His means of transportation are sentient, for God's sake.

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Yukona, Percyton

Magnatronia wrote:What even is a Wyoming questionAstrology is as real as Hogwarts

I mean, there was nothing but plains and gun rights t-shirts from what I saw.

Oh, and Arby's.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Jaslandia wrote:A separate criminal justice system? How does that work? Is there a special prison for sentient vehicles? And what is the maximum punishment a sentient vehicle can receive?

Edward: The sentient vehicle criminal justice system works basically the same as the regular criminal justice system, with lawyers, judges, trials, etc. Basically all the judges and lawyers in this system are humans, but most of them specialize in sentient vehicle law. If a vehicle is sentenced to prison, there are special prisons just for sentient vehicles, and the maximum penalty is 40 days.

Duke: Well 40 days may not seem like a long time, it can still be massive disruption to the railway or company that uses that sentient vehicle, and because of that, there is a lot of social stigma attached to sentient vehicles spending time in prison.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

Magnatronia wrote:What even is a Wyoming questionAstrology is as real as Hogwarts

You aren't real man!

Penguania And Antarctica

Continental Commonwealths wrote:The fact that Percy isn't #1 for Most Advanced Public Transport in The Confederacy of Free Nations is, I'm sure, a shock to all of us.

His means of transportation are sentient, for God's sake.

I'm surprised too! I'm surprised I'm only #28! If I had t guess why, it's because:

1. The railways of Sodor use a lot of old steam engines and other older designs, meaning our system isn't exactly 'advanced' in terms of technology.

2. While Sodor has lots of regular railways between cities, our public transportation within cities (subways, city trams, etc.) isn't quite as extensive, and still has room for improvement.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

Unfallious would be higher on the current census but unfortunately we spent several years trying to power trains on socialist literature to the detriment of the rest of the public transport system.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Percyton

Percyton wrote:I'm surprised too! I'm surprised I'm only #28! If I had t guess why, it's because:

1. The railways of Sodor use a lot of old steam engines and other older designs, meaning our system isn't exactly 'advanced' in terms of technology.

2. While Sodor has lots of regular railways between cities, our public transportation within cities (subways, city trams, etc.) isn't quite as extensive, and still has room for improvement.

If I had to guess why, it would be that these ranking methods are FAKE NEWS. CROOKED MAX BERRY continues to push forward his CROOKED AGENDA despite the people saying they want REAL CHANGE!

#FakeNews #PoisonedBerry #FraudNationStates

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Unfallious wrote:Unfallious would be higher on the current census but unfortunately we spent several years trying to power trains on socialist literature to the detriment of the rest of the public transport system.

I think you would have liked Robert Percy. He was a British Communist who first tried to spread communism to the engines of Sodor in the late 1800s and early 1900s. The State of Percyton is named after him, and in turn, I'm named after Percyton.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=percyton/detail=factbook/id=727657

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Continental Commonwealths wrote:If I had to guess why, it would be that these ranking methods are FAKE NEWS. CROOKED MAX BERRY continues to push forward his CROOKED AGENDA despite the people saying they want REAL CHANGE!

#FakeNews #PoisonedBerry #FraudNationStates

Ha ha ha. I appreciate you standing up for me, but it's fine. I trust Max Barry and the World Census ranking, and I got my place there fair and square.

Thomas: I do appreciate the Donald Trump impression, though. Thanks for the laugh!

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Unfallious wrote:Unfallious would be higher on the current census but unfortunately we spent several years trying to power trains on socialist literature to the detriment of the rest of the public transport system.

To be fair, I also believe socialist literature belongs in a train's firebox. (Kidding!)

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

[spoiler=Today is July 7 and today are:]

Today is July 7 and today are:

- Chocolate Day

- Fishermen's Holiday (Marshall Islands)

- Georgetown World Heritage City Day (Malaysia)

- Global Forgiveness Day

- Independence Day (Solomon Islands)

- Ivan Kupala Day (Belarus, Poland, Russia, Ukraine)

- National Father Daughter Take a Walk Day (United States)

- National Macaroni Day (United States)

- National Strawberry Sundae Day (United States)

- Saba Saba Day (Tanzania)

- Tanabata (Japan)

- Tell The Truth Day

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 1124 – Tyre falls to the Crusaders.

- 1456 – A retrial verdict acquits Joan of Arc of heresy 25 years after her death.

- 1520 – Spanish conquistadores defeat a larger Aztec army at the Battle of Otumba.

- 1534 – Jacques Cartier makes his first contact with aboriginal peoples in what is now Canada.

- 1543 – French troops invade Luxembourg.

- 1575 – The Raid of the Redeswire is the last major battle between England and Scotland.

- 1585 – The Treaty of Nemours abolishes tolerance to Protestants in France.

- 1770 – The Battle of Larga between the Russian Empire and the Ottoman Empire takes place.

- 1777 – American forces retreating from Fort Ticonderoga are defeated in the Battle of Hubbardton.

- 1798 – As a result of the XYZ Affair, the U.S. Congress rescinds the Treaty of Alliance with France sparking the "Quasi-War".

- 1807 – The Peace of Tilsit between France, Prussia and Russia ends the War of the Fourth Coalition.

- 1834 – In New York City, four nights of rioting against abolitionists began.

- 1846 – American troops occupy Monterey and Yerba Buena, thus beginning the conquest of California.

- 1863 – The United States begins its first military draft; exemptions cost $300.

- 1865 – Four conspirators in the assassination of Abraham Lincoln are hanged.

- 1892 – The Katipunan is established, the discovery of which by Spanish authorities initiated the Philippine Revolution.

- 1898 – U.S. President William McKinley signs the Newlands Resolution annexing Hawaii as a territory of the United States.

- 1907 – Florenz Ziegfeld, Jr. staged his first Follies on the roof of the New York Theater in New York City.

- 1911 – The United States, Great Britain, Japan, and Russia sign the North Pacific Fur Seal Convention of 1911 banning open-water seal hunting, the first international treaty to address wildlife preservation issues.

- 1915 – The First Battle of the Isonzo comes to an end.

- 1915 – An International Railway trolley with an extreme overload of 157 passengers crashes near Queenston, Ontario, killing 15.

- 1915 – Colombo Town Guard officer Henry Pedris is executed in British Ceylon for allegedly inciting persecution of Muslims.

- 1916 – The New Zealand Labour Party was founded in Wellington.

- 1928 – Sliced bread is sold for the first time (on the inventor's 48th birthday) by the Chillicothe Baking Company of Chillicothe, Missouri.

- 1930 – Industrialist Henry J. Kaiser begins construction of Boulder Dam (now known as Hoover Dam).

- 1930 – Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, the creator of Sherlock Holmes, dies.

- 1937 – The Marco Polo Bridge Incident provides the Imperial Japanese Army with a pretext for starting the Second Sino-Japanese War.

- 1937 – The Peel Commission Report recommends the partition of Palestine - the first formal recommendation for partition in the history of Palestine

- 1941 – The American occupation of Iceland replaces the British occupation.

- 1941 – World War II: Beirut is occupied by Free France and British troops.

- 1944 – World War II: Largest Banzai charge of the Pacific War at the Battle of Saipan.

- 1946 – Mother Francesca S. Cabrini becomes the first American to be canonized.

- 1946 – Howard Hughes nearly dies when his XF-11 reconnaissance aircraft prototype crashes in a Beverly Hills neighborhood.

- 1952 – The ocean liner SS United States passes Bishop Rock on her maiden voyage, breaking the transatlantic speed record to become the fastest passenger ship in the world.

- 1953 – Ernesto "Che" Guevara sets out on a trip through Bolivia, Peru, Ecuador, Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Honduras, and El Salvador.

- 1954 – Elvis Presley makes his radio debut when WHBQ Memphis played his first recording for Sun Records, "That's All Right."

- 1956 – Fritz Moravec and two other Austrian mountaineers make the first ascent of Gasherbrum II (8,035 m).

- 1958 – U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower signs the Alaska Statehood Act into law.

- 1959 – Venus occults the star Regulus. This rare event is used to determine the diameter of Venus and the structure of the Venusian atmosphere.

- 1963 – Buddhist crisis: The police of Ngô Đình Nhu, brother and chief political adviser of President Ngô Đình Diệm, attacked a group of American journalists who were covering a protest.

- 1978 – The Solomon Islands becomes independent from the United Kingdom

- 1980 – Institution of sharia in Iran.

- 1980 – During the Lebanese Civil War, 83 Tiger militants are killed during what will be known as the Safra massacre.

- 1981 – U.S. President Ronald Reagan appoints Sandra Day O'Connor to become the first female member of the Supreme Court of the United States.

- 1983 – Cold War: Samantha Smith, a U.S. schoolgirl, flies to the Soviet Union at the invitation of Secretary General Yuri Andropov.

- 1985 – Boris Becker becomes the youngest player ever to win Wimbledon at age 17.

- 1991 – Yugoslav Wars: The Brioni Agreement ends the ten-day independence war in Slovenia against the rest of the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia.

- 1992 – The New York Court of Appeals rules that women have the same right as men to go topless in public.

- 1997 – The Turkish Armed Forces withdraw from northern Iraq after assisting the Kurdistan Democratic Party in the Iraqi Kurdish Civil War.

- 2003 – NASA Opportunity rover, MER-B or Mars Exploration Rover–B, was launched into space aboard a Delta II rocket.

- 2005 – A series of four explosions occurs on London's transport system, killing 56 people, including four suicide bombers, and injuring over 700 others.

- 2007 – The first Live Earth benefit concert was held in 11 locations around the world.

- 2012 – At least 172 people are killed in a flash flood in the Krasnodar Krai region of Russia.

- 2013 – A De Havilland Otter air taxi crashes in Soldotna, Alaska, killing ten people.

- 2016 – Former U.S. Army soldier Micah Xavier Johnson shoots fourteen policemen during an anti-police protest in downtown Dallas, Texas, killing five of them. He is subsequently killed by a robot-delivered bomb.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1207 – Elizabeth of Hungary

- 1843 – Camillo Golgi, Italian physician and pathologist, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1860 – Gustav Mahler, Austrian composer and conductor

- 1861 – Nettie Stevens, American geneticist

- 1884 – Lion Feuchtwanger, German author and playwright

- 1899 – George Cukor, American director and producer

- 1906 – Anton Karas, Austrian zither player and composer

- 1906 – Satchel Paige, American baseball player and coach

- 1907 – Robert A. Heinlein, American science fiction writer and screenwriter

- 1909 – Gottfried von Cramm, German tennis player

- 1911 – Gian Carlo Menotti, Italian-American composer

- 1933 – David McCullough, American historian and author

- 1940 – Ringo Starr, English singer-songwriter, drummer, and actor

- 1963 – Vonda Shepard, American singer-songwriter and actress

- 1969 – Sylke Otto, German luger

- 1970 – Erik Zabel, German cyclist and coach

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Quote of the day

We live in a rainbow of chaos.

- Paul Cezanne -

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Jaslandia, Andromitus, The United Providences Of Perland

Magnatronia wrote:Also, I'm back from a great trip! I'm sure you all missed me.

Welcome back ya filthy animal!

Yukona wrote:You're just picking at things now, man. People say don't take "my" freedom but it doesn't mean it's just theirs and not anyone elses. You can also take your share of the government debt.

I know, babe. And no other colony or former country ruled by Britain has taken a share of the debt. So we wont. But if we we'll take half the national assets too.

Penguania And Antarctica

Continental Commonwealths I got your new issue in Valyria today.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

Nuremgard wrote:I know, babe. And no other colony or former country ruled by Britain has taken a share of the debt. So we wont. But if we we'll take half the national assets too.

You're not a colony, you're the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. You don't own half the assets, you own your own assets and the debt associated with your country

Nuremgard wrote:Continental Commonwealths I got your new issue in Valyria today.

Yaaay!

I'm not ready for this level of fame, guys! I'm afraid it will all go to my head and I'll end up like one of those Godforsaken Disney kids.

*nervously eyes some bleach, tighty whities, and a wrecking ball*

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Yaaay!

I'm not ready for this level of fame, guys! I'm afraid it will all go to my head and I'll end up like one of those Godforsaken Disney kids.

*nervously eyes some bleach, tighty whities, and a wrecking ball*

You got an issue in? Wow we have three Issue Authors in the CFN. Have either of you got my issue; 651 Black Days for @@NAME@@

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:You got an issue in? Wow we have three Issue Authors in the CFN. Have either of you got my issue; 651 Black Days for @@NAME@@

Definitely at least once.

Also, if anyone else gets my issue, could you send me the text that comes up when you choose an option? I don't know how they may have edited that, and I'm curious

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

Friedensreich wrote:Conservative. It's the least populous state in the nation and tends to vote more conservative/neoliberal with a traditionalist twist way.

I was buying a Coke at a gas station, when a pickup truck pulled up, a man yelled "f*ggot" at me, then drove off.

I have long hair, which in the only explanation I can come up with.

Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

Killdash wrote:I was buying a Coke at a gas station, when a pickup truck pulled up, a man yelled "f*ggot" at me, then drove off.

I have long hair, which in the only explanation I can come up with.

Jesus Christ.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Killdash wrote:I was buying a Coke at a gas station, when a pickup truck pulled up, a man yelled "f*ggot" at me, then drove off.

I have long hair, which in the only explanation I can come up with.

Now now; maybe he had just come out of the closest and was yelling what he was ;p

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

Kalaron wrote:Now now; maybe he had just come out of the closest and was yelling what he was ;p

Like this?

https://youtu.be/-N0yXGVWS1Y

Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

Kalaron wrote:Now now; maybe he had just come out of the closest and was yelling what he was ;p

It is possible that he wanted some mad, manly shag tent right there in the Dennys parking lot, of course. But sadly he pulled away, so I guess the truth is forever lost, :(

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

Killdash wrote:I was buying a Coke at a gas station, when a pickup truck pulled up, a man yelled "f*ggot" at me, then drove off.

I have long hair, which in the only explanation I can come up with.

I'm not entirely convinced that that isn't an example of a grievous mental illness of some sort.

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

Killdash wrote:It is possible that he wanted some mad, manly shag tent right there in the Dennys parking lot, of course. But sadly he pulled away, so I guess the truth is forever lost, :(

Damn, got shy. ;p

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

Top 5 Best Countries

#5: Saudi Arabia

Saudi Arabia is known for its great record on human rights. In fact, it's the freest country in the world, especially scoring high on sexual freedom. It's the world's only direct democracy, with all issues being decided upon by a highly progressive people. Not only that, but it's the world's largest exporter of renewables, and has been doing great in replacing fossil fuels domestically. It has also had a great record of fighting terrorism, using the UN to condemn states that have had a history of supporting terrorism.

#4: The USA

The USA is a highly progressive nation, having the world's cheapest healthcare with astounding outcomes and a great education system that diverts greatly from the Prussian education system. It also has a very low amount of economic inequality through its various distribution schemes. Not only that, but it has had a great history of supporting democratic regimes in Latin America and the Middle East.

#3: Syria

Syria is the world's most stable country and has stayed in its current form for much longer than any other nation. It has had a history of denouncing chemical attacks and is one of the world's freest countries. Throughout its history, it has accepted millions of refugees from war-torn nations.

#2: India

India is the world's cleanest country. It has been able to peacefully settle border conflicts with its neighbors and has denounced the proliferation of nuclear weapons.

#1: South Africa

This country is great in terms of racial relations. It has the lowest racial gap in education and all other areas of life and has used its membership in the UN to denounce apartheid regimes.

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Friedensreich

Mesopotamia-Kurdistan wrote:Top 5 Best Countries

#5: Saudi Arabia

Saudi Arabia is known for its great record on human rights. In fact, it's the freest country in the world, especially scoring high on sexual freedom. It's the world's only direct democracy, with all issues being decided upon by a highly progressive people. Not only that, but it's the world's largest exporter of renewables, and has been doing great in replacing fossil fuels domestically. It has also had a great record of fighting terrorism, using the UN to condemn states that have had a history of supporting terrorism.

#4: The USA

The USA is a highly progressive nation, having the world's cheapest healthcare with astounding outcomes and a great education system that diverts greatly from the Prussian education system. It also has a very low amount of economic inequality through its various distribution schemes. Not only that, but it has had a great history of supporting democratic regimes in Latin America and the Middle East.

#3: Syria

Syria is the world's most stable country and has stayed in its current form for much longer than any other nation. It has had a history of denouncing chemical attacks and is one of the world's freest countries. Throughout its history, it has accepted millions of refugees from war-torn nations.

#2: India

India is the world's cleanest country. It has been able to peacefully settle border conflicts with its neighbors and has denounced the proliferation of nuclear weapons.

#1: South Africa

This country is great in terms of racial relations. It has the lowest racial gap in education and all other areas of life and has used its membership in the UN to denounce apartheid regimes.

What

Jaslandia

Axeldonia wrote:What

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ_u40yfQdY

Axeldonia, The United Providences Of Perland

Mesopotamia-Kurdistan wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ_u40yfQdY

This hurts me deeply

Axeldonia wrote:What

Opposite Day!

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

Axeldonia wrote:This hurts me deeply

That is the magic of Constidor 2.0, or is it Constidor 2.5? I don't remember, but you should remember to never betray your friends, except when it's for the greater good.

Jaslandia, Axeldonia

Andromitus wrote:Opposite Day!

Someone finally gets the joke.

Axeldonia, Andromitus

Antifa is fascist.

Thoughts?

Vista Major

Post self-deleted by Axeldonia.

Mesopotamia-Kurdistan wrote:Someone finally gets the joke.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x58oyus

Clemodecralia wrote:Antifa is fascist.

Thoughts?

Real News.

Clemodecralia

Continental Commonwealths wrote:The fact that Percy isn't #1 for Most Advanced Public Transport in The Confederacy of Free Nations is, I'm sure, a shock to all of us.

His means of transportation are sentient, for God's sake.

*wink*

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, The United Providences Of Perland

Vista Major wrote:*wink*

I'm coming for those transport systems

Jaslandia

Andromitus wrote:Opposite Day!

https://youtu.be/cPHKB0IA9Po

Mesopotamia-Kurdistan wrote:That is the magic of Constidor 2.0, or is it Constidor 2.5? I don't remember, but you should remember to never betray your friends, except when [B]it's for the greater good[/B].

https://youtu.be/x2qRDMHbXaM?t=36s

Clemodecralia wrote:Antifa is fascist.

Thoughts?

The mere use of violent tactics does not make someone or something fascist. Fascism is a much more complex ideology that incorporates corporatism, an adoration of the state, and antiliberalism into it. So let's examine these three things to see if Antifa is fascist.

1. Is Antifa corporatist?

To answer this question, we first need to know what corporatism is. Many mistake it for corporations dominating the government, but that's simply not true. Corporatism is a method of organizing a society where different groups of people are organized into organizations that advocate for their group's special interests. While this may sound like a good idea at first, it doesn't work out too well in practice. Fascist states have had a long history of controlling these organizations, using them to fulfill the state's bidding. So onto the question, is Antifa corporatist? No. Members of Antifa are generally anarchists or socialists, having no relation with corporatism.

2. Do they adore the state?

This is an easy question, and the obvious answer is no. Many members of Antifa are anarchists, which means that they want to dismantle the state, not prop it up and worship it.

3. Is Antifa antiliberal?

Yes, but this doesn't specifically mean that they are fascist. But first of all, let's explain why the group opposes liberalism. They oppose it because they see liberalism as allowing fascism to rise, which is exactly what they don't want to happen. But like I said earlier, this doesn't make them fascist. Many other ideologies, ranging from neoreactionaryism to socialism, oppose liberalism for very different reasons. This belief isn't special to fascism, and Antifa's opposition to liberalism even stems out of their opposition to fascism!

4. Conclusion

I would say that Antifa isn't fascist, but this doesn't mean that there isn't room for criticism. You could criticize it for its violent methods, and could even make a good case for classifying it as a domestic terrorist group. But one argument that doesn't stick is that they are fascist because of their violent tactics.

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Axeldonia

Welp, TDC went to sh!t so i am staying here for the time being.

Jaslandia

Jaslandia wrote:https://youtu.be/cPHKB0IA9Po

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zEGjlHZMiM

Crato wrote:Welp, TDC went to sh!t so i am staying here for the time being.

Well hello there then!

Jaslandia

Andromitus wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zEGjlHZMiM

Well hello there then!

Mkay.

Guess i am going in the discord for the time being!

Andromitus wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zEGjlHZMiM

Well... that got dark quick.

Crato wrote:Welp, TDC went to sh!t so i am staying here for the time being.

Crato! It's been a while. How are you?

Jaslandia wrote:Well... that got dark quick.

Crato! It's been a while. How are you?

i don't know mate! absolutely don't know! nothing wrong with this sentence!

Jaslandia

Hey [nation=short]Percyton[/nation] !

I have a question about trains. Do train fall in love with each other and do they from partnerships like humans do?

Jaslandia, Andromitus, Percyton

Anyone else watch Oats studios on youtube?

God, their videos are disturbing.

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Hey [nation=short]Percyton[/nation] !

I have a question about trains. Do train fall in love with each other and do they from partnerships like humans do?

Expanding on this, if they do, can they form intermechanical bonds, for example a train falling for a car?

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Andromitus wrote:Expanding on this, if they do, can they form intermechanical bonds, for example a train falling for a car?

Andy before it was cute.

Why are you making this into a weird porno.

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Kalaron wrote:Andy before it was cute.

Why are you making this into a weird porno.

... I could go on and on but I will keep it simple; We've already seen how these sentients are manifested, ergo intercourse isn't on their menue, meaning that bonds would be mental and emotional alone.

I can also call on the difference from Human emotional relationships because our only other options are other species, which do not retain the same level of emotional and mental ability as we do. A train and a Car both have the same level of sentience on Percyton, ergo they could possibly form an emotional courtship.

See this is what happens when you question me Kal, I spend 10 minutes thinking about the complexities of MECHANICAL RELATIONSHIPS

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Andromitus wrote:... I could go on and on but I will keep it simple; We've already seen how these sentients are manifested, ergo intercourse isn't possible nor probable, meaning that bonds would be mental and emotional alone.

I can see why you would make that reference to weirdome due to the your connection to Human emotional relationships. However, because our only other options are other species, which do not retain the same level of emotional and mental ability as we do, we cannot sustain PhsycoEmotional relationships outside of Humans.

I asked the question, because a Train and a Car both have the same level of sentience on Percyton, ergo they could possibly form an emotional courtship.

Fixed it

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Hey [nation=short]Percyton[/nation] !

I have a question about trains. Do train fall in love with each other and do they from partnerships like humans do?

Edward: Sorta. Trains can't feel sexual love, obviously. As for romantic love, it's not very common, but it can happen. Romantic love, much like human love, is based on a combination of appearance and companionship, although unlike human love, engines don't kiss or hold hands or anything like that.

As for if we form partnerships, we can form informal partnerships in that we work well together and want to work together as often as possible, and more kindly controllers will take this into account. However, we don't have anything more formalized like marriage: With the work we have, and all the different places we have to go to for work, we can't afford to be permanently tied down like that.

Andromitus wrote:Expanding on this, if they do, can they form intermechanical bonds, for example a train falling for a car?

Edward: It's theoretically possible, and there's nothing I can think of that would prevent it, but I have never seen it happen in all my years.

Toby: Nor have I.

Duke: I have. Back when I worked on the Ffestiniog Railway, one of my brothers Little Giant had an attraction to a car that was owned by the owner of the local quarry. However, no one took it seriously, and me and the other engines teased Little Giant about it, and he eventually had to let it go because he and the car rarely saw each other. However, Little Giant was torn up about it for quite a few months, and in hindsight, I should have been more supportive of him instead of making fun of him.

Kalaron wrote:Andy before it was cute.

Why are you making this into a weird porno.

I don't mind it, really. I'm just glad people are so curious about us!

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

Percyton wrote:Trains can't feel sexual love, obviously. As for romantic love, it's not very common, but it can happen. Romantic love, much like human love, is based on a combination of appearance and companionship, although unlike human love, engines don't kiss or hold hands or anything like that.

How about holding or touching each others buffers ?

Jaslandia, Percyton

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