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Region: The Confederacy of Free Nations
Now is not the time for Democrats to be blaming each other. Now is the time to be a united party in order to control President Trump. The Republicans may end up divided due to so many of them disliking Trump, so now is the perfect chance to unite.
Aldaur
You Americans are weird.
You're allowed guns that your people use to shoot up schools and churches but SWEARING IS BAD!
Aldaur
Turkeys voting for Xmas. I come from a very working class family and all of us cant stand Conservatives.
Aldaur
Dems want no guns but swearing. Repubs want no swearing but guns. Why can't we have guns and swearing or no guns and swearing. I prefer the latter :p
Fvck no! It exists for a reason; so that the big cities don't automatically carry the election. Its purpose is important and necessary to a republic: preventing mob rule (hard as that is to do with two parties).
Don't need to change the way electors are allocated if we just go constitutional and either get rid of parties altogether or let alternate parties gain strength. That said, if the electors elect Clinton, that is also equally fair and Constitutional and we'll have to deal with it. They are in no way obligated by the Constitution to follow the popular vote--again, the purpose is to avoid mob rule.
Aldaur
You're anti-gun? Meeting an anti-gun American is like meeting a vegetarian that hates animals.
Aldaur
If we don't take time to address the issues the party had that resulted in us losing the election, then we are doomed to repeat it in the future. We need to get the party together, and part of that is finding where our faults were and addressing them instead of pretending they never happened.
Jaslandia, Aldaur
What? Idk how it is in the UK, but I was talking about in the US, and if you look at the statistics and demographics, it is shown to be this way.
I actually know a vegetarian that hates animals.
Nuremgard, Jaslandia
Well, yes, but that is simply the reason they lost.
They were revealed time and time again to be as corrupt as their enemies, and made a impressive number of terrible choices.
Well, it's only "Bad" on national television that is being shown all around the US, including into very morally conservative households.
But isn't the whole point to represent the people?
If "X" number of people want "Y", then it is fairly undemocratic to pick something else, to me, at least.
I'm not anti-gun, but I'd be comfortable with banning guns.
Nuremgard
Yeah I know. That's why I don't get it. Like I hate the Cons and I'm working class. But I have a working class friend who stood as a Con MSP at the last election. I guess it really is all about perception and way of thinking. If I told my family I was a Tory they'd probably disown me :P
Well I knew one had to exist somewhere.
Lol morally conservative is an oxymoron.
Aldaur, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus
Something we agree on!
Aldaur
That's fine, but there's no need to be antagonistic about it and blame the other wing of the party.
Aldaur
No, remember there was no popular vote really in the early days. The point isn't to represent the people; if the people want an unstable populist scoundrel then it is up to the EC to protect us from that.
How is everyone ?
The Founding Fathers were elitists. I am a democrat but at the same time, there is a side of me that is an elitist who believes people don't know what's good for them.
Aldaur
But that is literally what happened.
They literally had their dirty laundry exposed to the world, and fell back on ineffective fear-mongering, or tried to use PC-ness as a viable weapon.
Your right, but there wasn't a popular vote in the early days because one of the Founding Fathers kinda hated the idea of those not as wealthy as him getting a better vote.
I believe a few days ago we literally had someone quote him and comment that he was an elitist.
Good.
Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica
I'm part of the left wing of the Democratic Party. When I say the American left, I'm talking about the Establishment Democrats, the supposed "lefties" in Congress. As in the Party and its leadership itself.
Jaslandia, Aldaur, Kalaron
And at the end of the day, those people will still be in the party, so the best option would be to work with them in the interim while still promoting progressive causes. Then once 2020 rolls around, a progressive can make a convincing enough case to get the Democratic nomination.
I know. And those people will still be around after the election, and it's in the party's best interests to cooperate instead of split.
Aldaur
Yeah he's a nut
Nuremgard, Killdash
And again, if we don't address the issues and the root of them, we won't win because they will simply occur again.
It's not the blame game, it's actual criticism. Believe it or not, I want the party to succeed and rally together, but if we don't prune the sick limbs, the tree will die.
Jaslandia, Aldaur, Kalaron
I achieved one of the goals I've had for ages. I managed to reduce crime in Tangshan from "all-pervasive" to "totally unknown."
Jaslandia, Aldaur, New Estaris
Except, they've shown a willingness to cheat and support their preferred candidate.
Not pointing out their bullsh!t is probably the worst thing to do, because it lets them slide back into the shadows without a single eye on them.
Bad arguments that don't work need to be pointed out and cut off, because people have become completely outcast from the main group due to the phony outrage being expressed, lies, cheating and the fact that they supported a candidate who was a total hypocrite.
We need to keep a strong eye on them, and we need to make them work by the oaths they make.
Jaslandia, Aldaur
I feel the same way. Sometimes I am more elitist and other times I am more populist. I am willing to admit that I am more willing to be populist when things are going my way. Realizing that, I think it is better to be elitist because there is always the chance that the opposition will be popular and I believe that to be bad. So even though people should have their voice heard, the people don't always make the best informed choices and it is up to the elite to guide them properly. It is only natural for it to be this way, at least until everyone is properly educated.
Nuremgard
Is it ironic that the regional Texan still wants to own a gun :p
Nuremgard, Aldaur
I like owning guns too, and I believe in the right to bear arms and that it should be defended. I am fond of the idea that we can use our right to rebel against a tyrannical government or defend our nation against invasion, but I am also perfectly comfortable with banning guns in the name of public safety. Our military is enough to defend us.
Nuremgard, Pirate Kingdoms
Again, I never said you shouldn't point out the DNC's sleazy tactics in the 2016 election, but there also needs to be a willingness to work to improve those issues without excluding the leadership. Simply saying one side of the Democratic Party or another is responsible for electing Trump won't help, especially if that's the only thing you do. If there is a sense of unity, I think the leadership may be more willing to acknowledge their faults and work to improve them.
Aldaur
I don't know if I'd ban guns entirely, but certainly, we can do a lot better when it comes to the checks and balances relating to them.
Aldaur
Where did I say we should exclude anyone? Simply pointing out the problems and where they lie isn't excluding anyone from anything. It's criticism, if we don't weed out the problems the party will get decimated because we can't effectually get anything done or persuade anyone.
We should unite, but that doesn't mean we should feign absolute innocence for everyone.
Jaslandia
I do think they need to, in the very least, be regulated more heavily.
Killdash
BTW if any of you are interested in Nazi Germany, watch a documentary on YouTube called The SS Officer's Wife. Fascinating stuff.
Aldaur
Fair enough. I think we might be in agreement on this.
Aldaur
Who said I didn't want to?
I am pointing out that if we don't at least keep an eye on them, then they can get back to the shadows and act like it never happened.
Frankly, Jas, I believe very strongly that they won't look to fix their faults, because they [B]knew[/B] it was wrong to try to sway the primary.
They knew it full well, and to argue that they'll address their wanting to stay in the spotlight of power is to state that a dictator will let people speak of freedom, that is, it won't happen.
A strong eye, and the threat of being powerless is an extreme deterrent to this behavior, attempting to protect the leadership from criticism is not helpful.
They used bad measures, continuously insulted those in the middle, used fear-mongering to their advantage, and actually robbed a primary blind.
That isn't sleazy, Jas, that's morally bankrupt crap, and I think that, if anyone is to even consider voting democrat, the leadership needs to show that they won't pull it again.
The US government has lost most if not all of it's credibility, the Democratic Party too, has lost credibility.
The first step has to be convincing the voter that they won't break anymore oaths, and unless voters press the [B]metaphorical[/B] gun of democracy to a politician's head, they won't do that.
I'm sorry, but it's unfair to take an election from the voters, and then proclaim that they need to unify behind them without so much as a damn apology.
Aldaur
Elect me to head of the DNC.
Vote Sully for a Brighter Future
"I'll whip them assholes into shape!"
- Paid for by the I Don't Take No Corporate or Union Money for Sully2016
Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Greater Banitia, Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica
The Aldauri government supports this change in regime....er....party leadership.
Nuremgard, Greater Banitia
My Model UN Club got our nation today for the Harvard National Model UN Conference, we are representing the glorious Republic of Burkina Faso. Praise be.
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus, Pirate Kingdoms
Ooh, good ol' Burk Fas! Good luck ;)
Also, Jaslandia is#1 in the region for scientific advancement! Go Jaslandia! We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own!
No, wait, that was something else...
The Land Of Golden Blobfish, Aldaur, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica
*envy*
Jaslandia, Aldaur
Better luck next time, Vista. You still got 3rd place.
Aldaur, Vista Major
#5? Not bad Aldaur! Especially considering our hesitation and prudential nature towards technology.
Jaslandia, Vista Major
Means nothing with our rampant racism and unhinged police force
Jaslandia, The Land Of Golden Blobfish
Despite my short dictatorship phase, I still am dead last on political apathy! Woot woot!
Here's a question for you all, what place are you most likely/would like to emigrate to the most. This is excluding anything to do with the US elections, none of that jump the boat sh*t
Aldaur, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica
New Zealand or maybe Alaska or Canada.
Vista Major, Yukona
Canada, New Zealand, Norway.
But I honestly like where I live now.
Vista Major
[B]DIP Information
Depending on my skills to fix a problem the DIP will be posted soon or in 7 hours. I'm sorry for this. If it causes any inconvenience please let me know.
Vista Major, Tserra
Germany, maybe France (when I learn French). Austria's also an option. Canada, if nothing else.
Leonard Cohen died today.
What a sh*tty year it has been.
Nuremgard, Greater Banitia, Penguania And Antarctica
On the plus side, #10 for gambling industry.
Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica
So it seems I am not able to fix the problem. So expect the DIP in 5 hours.
#UnablePeng
Australiaaaaaa.... For many reasons.
Little to none earthquakes, little crime rates, great opportunities for a vet doctor, safe and sound towards a possible US-EU-Russian war. :') *Looks away*
[nation=short]New Orcaria[/nation]'s Citizenship has been terminated.
Minister of Interior
[nation=short]Latrovia[/nation]
Penguania And Antarctica, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus
Ugh, try to stay out of the EU... But if you would risk going into the stagnant system i'd definatly avoid Austria, the immigration system is one of the hardest in the world to get into if you aren't EU.
Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus
Well, truth be told, there are few places on this earth I'd like to live, so I'd probably stay here.
Hate to say it too, but good old Mass and the US has been good to me, you know?
Now, if I'm allowed to manipulate the question though, then a fully functioning, completely independent starship with a select group of people is my choice.
Penguania And Antarctica, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus, Yukona
Gotta say it would be Canada, Finland then Sweden for me. Finland if I can learn that notoriously hard language, Sweden once I complete learning it, and Canada if I never get around to it.
Perhaps Switzerland
I'd prefer a perpetually flying airplane to anything else.
Yukona
Interesting. May I ask why?
Killdash, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus
Why? For the Glory of all Greek of course!
but i actually dont know, maybe too inactive.
Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus
I'd probably move to Canada. Or if I knew or could learn the language, France or Germany. Or maybe one of the Scandinavian nations. I love Europe.
Penguania And Antarctica, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus, Yukona
Maybe because Orcaria left the region.
Come to beautiful Germany. :)
Nuremgard, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus
Germany does look gorgeous. And even though your government is Conservative, they run your economy great.
Penguania And Antarctica, Senatus Popolusque Mercunovus
For now, Just.
The economy may be great but at the expense of the ordinary worker/employee.
Well I think Germany is one of the few nations in the world to be in surplus so they must be doing something right. Plus, I like how the government gets unions and businesses to work together.
It's the same the world over, eh? Though I think Germany would be better than Britain in this regard.
The government likes to call it "black zero". They at least try to make no new debts.
I don't know, either my old country of Austria, or perhaps Australia, (though I didn't really like it there). But I'm really happy in SA at the moment.
Latrovia
Its all running on fumes now, all europe's growth including the UK and germany's is from the 90's and early 00's they've been coasting since the recession and a hills approaching and Europe's stabbing their own types.
Well you're doing better than the UK which is now over 2 trillion in debt.
The whole world economy is running on fumes. Expect another crash soon.
Their nation is not residing in CFN. They are members of the SLU now.
Jaslandia
Well Germany has 2.25 trillion euros in debt.
Almost every country is in debt. It's the normal way of things.
Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona
Does anyone have tips on language learning? Those who are bi/poly-lingual
How many inhabitants has the UK?
Well, I had English in school for 10 years, so ...
Yukona
You'd be surprised how something as negative as debt is used positively for the economy and diplomacy.
Nuremgard
Its really unavoidable.
Start with simple words like "water" or "man" and then move onto the words that connect them like "can i have some water" or "there is a man" and build sentences one word at a time instead of going in sentences at a time.
Nuremgard, Latrovia, Yukona
64 million
Me too, well a bit longer.
Ok. That makes sense now. Thank you!
The correct answer is Canada FTW. We are an amazing open liberal forward thinking multicultural society that would love to have you! :)
Oh, and the Healthcare is free.
Jaslandia
Its a real bugger to get into though.
Loads of americans what to leave the US because of trump and his policies and go to canada but they cant get in because they already have them in place.
"3rd night of violent nation wide anti trump protests"
Almost as if y'all dont like democracy, besides wasnt it the clinton suporters that were affraid of angry trump protesters if he lost?
Greater Banitia
Aldaur. I would live in Aldaur.
Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Greater Banitia, Penguania And Antarctica
About 65 million I think.
Penguania And Antarctica
64.1
Penguania And Antarctica
According to Worldmeters it's 65,257,307. That will be reduced to 60 million if Scotland leaves.
Penguania And Antarctica
Thanks.
My bad, i was looking at 2013. Eh, can't say i care about Scotland leaving to be honest so long as its civil without any slander or lies.
Here is today's DIP. A bit late and I'm sorry for it. I try to fix the problems I have.
[spoiler=Today are:]
Today are:
- Armistice Day (Belgium, France, New Zealand, Serbia)
- Birthday of King Jigme Singye Wangchuck (Bhutan)
- Children's Day (Croatia)
- Independence Day (Angola)
- Independence of Cartagena (Colombia)
- Lāčplēsis Day (Latvia)
- National Education Day (India)
- National Independence Day (Poland)
- National Sundae Day (United States)
- Opening of carnival (Germany, Netherlands, and other countries)
- Origami Day
- Pepero Day (South Korea)
- Pocky Day (Japan)
- Remembrance Day (United Kingdom and the Commonwealth of Nations, including Australia and Canada)
- Republic Day (Maldives)
- Saint Martin's Day (Saint Martin)
- Singles Day (China)
- Veterans Day (United States)
- Women's Day (Belgium)
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[spoiler=This day in history:]
This day in history:
- 308 At Carnuntum, Emperor emeritus Diocletian confers with Galerius, Augustus of the East, and Maximianus, the recently returned former Augustus of the West, in an attempt to end the civil wars of the Tetrarchy.
- 1100 Henry I of England marries Matilda of Scotland, the daughter of Malcolm III of Scotland and a direct descendant of the Saxon king Edmund Ironside.
- 1500 Treaty of Granada: Louis XII of France and Ferdinand II of Aragon agree to divide the Kingdom of Naples between them.
- 1620 The Mayflower Compact is signed in what is now Provincetown Harbor near Cape Cod.
- 1634 Following pressure from Anglican bishop John Atherton, the Irish House of Commons passes An Act for the Punishment for the Vice of Buggery.
- 1675 Gottfried Leibniz demonstrates integral calculus for the first time to find the area under the graph of y = (x).
- 1750 Riots break out in Lhasa after the murder of the Tibetan regent.
- 1805 Napoleonic Wars: Battle of Dürenstein: Eight thousand French troops attempt to slow the retreat of a vastly superior Russian and Austrian force.
- 1839 The Virginia Military Institute is founded in Lexington, Virginia.
- 1864 American Civil War: General William Tecumseh Sherman begins burning Atlanta to the ground in preparation for his march to the sea.
- 1865 Treaty of Sinchula is signed whereby Bhutan cedes the areas east of the Teesta River to the British East India Company.
- 1869 The Victorian Aboriginal Protection Act is enacted in Australia, giving the government control of indigenous people's wages, their terms of employment, where they could live, and of their children, effectively leading to the Stolen Generations.
- 1889 The State of Washington is admitted as the 42nd state of the United States.
- 1911 Many cities in the Midwestern United States break their record highs and lows on the same day as a strong cold front rolls through.
- 1918 World War I: Germany signs an armistice agreement with the Allies in a railroad car in the forest of Compiègne.
- 1918 Emperor Charles I of Austria relinquishes power.
- 1919 Latvian forces defeat the West Russian Volunteer Army at Riga in the Latvian War of Independence.
- 1921 The Tomb of the Unknowns is dedicated by US President Warren G. Harding at Arlington National Cemetery.
- 1926 The United States Numbered Highway System is established.
- 1930 Patent number US1781541 is awarded to Albert Einstein and Leó Szilárd for their invention, the Einstein refrigerator.
- 1934 The Shrine of Remembrance in Melbourne, Australia is opened.
- 1940 World War II: In the Battle of Taranto, the Royal Navy launches the first all-aircraft ship-to-ship naval attack in history.
- 1940 World War II: The German auxiliary cruiser Atlantis captures top secret British mail from the Automedon, and sends it to Japan.
- 1962 Kuwait's National Assembly ratifies the Constitution of Kuwait.
- 1965 In Rhodesia (modern-day Zimbabwe), the white-minority government of Ian Smith unilaterally declares independence.
- 1966 NASA launches Gemini 12.
- 1975 Australian constitutional crisis of 1975: Australian Governor-General Sir John Kerr dismisses the government of Gough Whitlam, appoints Malcolm Fraser as caretaker Prime Minister and announces a general election to be held in early December.
- 1975 Independence of Angola.
- 1981 Antigua and Barbuda joins the United Nations.
- 1992 The General Synod of the Church of England votes to allow women to become priests.
- 1993 A sculpture honoring women who served in the Vietnam War is dedicated at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington, D.C.
- 1999 The House of Lords Act is given Royal Assent, restricting membership of the British House of Lords by virtue of a hereditary peerage.
- 2000 Kaprun disaster: One hundred fifty-five skiers and snowboarders die when a cable car catches fire in an alpine tunnel in Kaprun, Austria.
- 2004 New Zealand Tomb of the Unknown Warrior is dedicated at the National War Memorial, Wellington.
- 2004 The Palestine Liberation Organization confirms the death of Yasser Arafat from unidentified causes. Mahmoud Abbas is elected chairman of the PLO minutes later.
- 2006 Queen Elizabeth II unveils the New Zealand War Memorial in London, United Kingdom, commemorating the loss of soldiers from the New Zealand Army and the British Army.
- 2012 A strong earthquake with the magnitude 6.8 hits northern Burma, killing at least 26 people.
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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]
Famous Birthdays:
- 1050 Henry IV, Holy Roman Emperor
- 1821 Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Russian philosopher and author
- 1864 Alfred Hermann Fried, Austrian journalist and activist, Nobel Prize laureate
- 1885 George S. Patton, American general
- 1922 Kurt Vonnegut, American soldier, author, and academic
- 1928 Carlos Fuentes, Panamanian-Mexican author and academic
- 1929 Hans Magnus Enzensberger, German author and poet
- 1945 Daniel Ortega, Nicaraguan politician, President of Nicaragua
- 1955 Jigme Singye Wangchuk, King of Bhutan
- 1962 Demi Moore, American actress, director, and producer
- 1964 Calista Flockhart, American actress
- 1974 Leonardo DiCaprio, American actor and producer
- 1983 Philipp Lahm, German footballer
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Quote of the day
Dont cry because its over, smile because it happened.
- Dr. Seuss -
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Jaslandia, Tserra
I love the hakka dance. A true showcase of masculine energy that all men need. There's nothing better than unleashing your inner savage. Also, Happy Veteran's Day :p
Penguania And Antarctica
Of course it will be civil.
I love rememberance day, the way we all come together in a solom respectful day to f
Remebef those who fought evil to give us our freedom.
It's in very poor taste of them to close down military bases at this time.
Aldaur
To close them how?
If the troops are given a day off, it's OK to me, and if the troops are given a day to go home to their families, also good to me.
No the government is permanently closing down some military bases.
Aldaur
Strange, but I suppose that it might be a cost saving measure?
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