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Sulania wrote:Meanwhile, Pope Francis chose not to live in the Papal housing and now chooses to live in the building next door, Domus Sanctae Marthae, which is a guest house for Clergy and Cardinals. https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/250x250/73009920/oh-jeez.jpg

He still has access to the Vatican's piles of cash.

Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:He still has access to the Vatican's piles of cash.

You ever saw the show Young Pope?

Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Sulania wrote:You ever saw the show Young Pope?

I only saw the opening of the first episode. Was hilarious.

Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:I only saw the opening of the first episode. Was hilarious.

Very much so.

But to answer your question from earlier, Yes, I did find Jesus.

Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Yukona wrote:If this is within the RP I'd be happy to sample them and potentially buy a shipment, when you come to design and produce some.

I have a WIP storefront that I have been working on for awhile.

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=397813

Not just arms but composite industries that make everything military related in my nation.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Yukona

Sulania wrote:Very much so.

But to answer your question from earlier, Yes, I did find Jesus.

Where did he hide? :P

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Where did he hide? :P

In the Church, he was hiding behind one of the pews.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri

Sulania wrote:Very much so.

But to answer your question from earlier, Yes, I did find Jesus.

Eh, fair enough.

Lavan Tiri

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Where did he hide? :P

In hell for 3 days apparently.

Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Hey guys.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica

Alyaskinskaya wrote:Hey guys.

Greetings

Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Should I be Soviet Alaska? or Democratic Alaska?

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Alyaskinskaya wrote:Should I be Soviet Alaska? or Democratic Alaska?

https://m.imgur.com/t/why_not_both/c7NJRa2

Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Falangism/Theocracy/Fascism all the way Alaskan Empire.

Nuremgard, Lavan Tiri

Spanelsko wrote:Falangism/Theocracy/Fascism all the way Alaskan Empire.

There is slight economic reform too in New Salvatore. The state had planned to control certain sectors of the economy but to lower taxes, the government will privatise.

Lavan Tiri, Spanelsko

Nuremgard wrote:There is slight economic reform too in New Salvatore. The state had planned to control certain sectors of the economy but to lower taxes, the government will privatise.

Interesting, if we didnt mention it before we ourselves have had a great reform, as possibly mentioned we now follow the ideology of Iberianism and we are no longer Autocracy but Ibericracia.

May Salvatore prosper.

Nuremgard, Lavan Tiri

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w

IC

Glory to this hero.

Lavan Tiri

BTW is Salvatore planing on remaining a dictatorial regime? or will it change its ways?

Nuremgard, Lavan Tiri

Spanelsko wrote:BTW is Salvatore planing on remaining a dictatorial regime? or will it change its ways?

What is Iberianism?

Salvatore will remain a one-party state dictatorship.

Lavan Tiri, Spanelsko

Nuremgard wrote:What is Iberianism?

Salvatore will remain a one-party state dictatorship.

Iberianism is a new ideology made in Iberia (if the name didnt gave that away already)

It is a form of government that is BUT doenst need to be a dictatorship.

BUT the ideology itself is based on these ideologies= Theocratic, Monarchist, COMMUNIST, TECHnocratic and Ultra nationalist/Fascist ideas made into 1 single ideology called Iberianism.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri

It is perhaps a bit insane to combine all of these but it did work for us.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri

Spanelsko wrote:It is perhaps a bit insane to combine all of these but it did work for us.

As long as it works for your country.

Jaslandia, Spanelsko

[spoiler=Today is November 13 and today are:]

Today is November 13 and today are:

- Heir to the Throne's Birthday (Tuvalu)

- Independence of Cartagena (Colombia)

- National Day (Myanmar)

- National Indian Pudding Day (United States)

- Remembrance Day (Cayman Islands)

- Sadie Hawkins Day (United States)

- World Kindness Day

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 1002 – English king Æthelred II orders the killing of all Danes in England, known today as the St. Brice's Day massacre.

- 1093 – Battle of Alnwick English victory over the Scots, Malcolm III of Scotland, and his son Edward, are slain.

- 1160 – Louis VII of France marries Adela of Champagne.

- 1642 – First English Civil War: Battle of Turnham Green: The Royalist forces withdraw in the face of the Parliamentarian army and fail to take London.

- 1775 – American Revolutionary War: Patriot revolutionary forces under Gen. Richard Montgomery occupy Montreal.

- 1841 – James Braid first sees a demonstration of animal magnetism, which leads to his study of the subject he eventually calls hypnotism.

- 1851 – The Denny Party lands at Alki Point, before moving to the other side of Elliott Bay to what would become Seattle.

- 1887 – Bloody Sunday clashes in central London.

- 1901 – The 1901 Caister Lifeboat Disaster.

- 1914 – Zaian War: Berber tribesmen inflict the heaviest defeat of French forces in Morocco at the Battle of El Herri.

- 1916 – Prime Minister of Australia Billy Hughes is expelled from the Labor Party over his support for conscription.

- 1918 – Allied troops occupy Constantinople, the capital of the Ottoman Empire.

- 1927 – The Holland Tunnel opens to traffic as the first Hudson River vehicle tunnel linking New Jersey to New York City.

- 1940 – Walt Disney's animated musical film Fantasia is first released, on the first night of a roadshow at New York's Broadway Theatre.

- 1941 – World War II: The aircraft carrier HMS Ark Royal is torpedoed by U-81, sinking the following day.

- 1942 – World War II: Naval Battle of Guadalcanal: U.S. and Japanese ships engage in an intense, close-quarters surface naval engagement during the Guadalcanal Campaign.

- 1947 – The Soviet Union completes development of the AK-47, one of the first proper assault rifles.

- 1950 – General Carlos Delgado Chalbaud, President of Venezuela, is assassinated in Caracas.

- 1954 – Great Britain defeats France to capture the first ever Rugby League World Cup in Paris in front of around 30,000 spectators.

- 1956 – The Supreme Court of the United States declares Alabama laws requiring segregated buses illegal, thus ending the Montgomery Bus Boycott.

- 1966 – In response to Fatah raids against Israelis near the West Bank border, Israel launches an attack on the village of As-Samu.

- 1969 – Vietnam War: Anti-war protesters in Washington, D.C. stage a symbolic March Against Death.

- 1970 – Bhola cyclone: A 150-mph tropical cyclone hits the densely populated Ganges Delta region of East Pakistan (now Bangladesh), killing an estimated 500,000 people in one night.

- 1974 – Ronald DeFeo, Jr. murders his entire family in Amityville, Long Island in the house that would become known as The Amityville Horror.

- 1982 – Ray Mancini defeats Duk Koo Kim in a boxing match held in Las Vegas. Kim's subsequent death (on November 17) leads to significant changes in the sport.

- 1982 – The Vietnam Veterans Memorial is dedicated in Washington, D.C. after a march to its site by thousands of Vietnam War veterans.

- 1985 – The volcano Nevado del Ruiz erupts and melts a glacier, causing a lahar (volcanic mudslide) that buries Armero, Colombia, killing approximately 23,000 people.

- 1985 – Xavier Suárez is sworn in as Miami's first Cuban-born mayor.

- 1986 – The Compact of Free Association becomes law, granting the Federated States of Micronesia, the Marshall Islands independence from the United States.

- 1989 – Hans-Adam II, the present Prince of Liechtenstein, begins his reign on the death of his father.

- 1990 – In Aramoana, New Zealand, David Gray shoots dead 13 people in a massacre before being tracked down and killed by police the next day.

- 1992 – The High Court of Australia rules in Dietrich v The Queen that although there is no absolute right to have publicly funded counsel, in most circumstances a judge should grant any request for an adjournment or stay when an accused is unrepresented.

- 1994 – In a referendum, voters in Sweden decide to join the European Union.

- 1995 – A truck-bomb explodes outside of a US-operated Saudi Arabian National Guard training center in Riyadh, killing five Americans and two Indians. A group called the Islamic Movement for Change claims responsibility.

- 2000 – Philippine House Speaker Manny Villar passes the articles of impeachment against Philippine President Joseph Estrada.

- 2001 – War on Terror: In the first such act since World War II, US President George W. Bush signs an executive order allowing military tribunals against foreigners suspected of connections to terrorist acts or planned acts on the United States.

- 2002 – Iraq disarmament crisis: Iraq agrees to the terms of the UN Security Council Resolution 1441.

- 2002 – During the Prestige oil spill a storm burst a tank of the oil tanker MV Prestige which was not allowed to dock and sank on November 19, 2002 off the coast of Galicia, spilling 63,000 metric tons of heavy fuel oil, more than the Exxon Valdez Oil Spill.

- 2011 – Mario Monti accepted to become the 54th Prime Minister of Italy with the ouster of Silvio Berlusconi, who failed to tackle Italy's debt crisis.

- 2012 – A total solar eclipse occurred in parts of Australia and the South Pacific

- 2015 – A set of coordinated terror attacks in Paris, including multiple shootings, explosions, and a hostage crisis in the 10th and 11th arrondissements kill 130 people, seven attackers, and injured 368 others, with at least 80 critically wounded.

- 2015 – WT1190F, a temporary satellite of Earth, impacts just southeast of Sri Lanka.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 0354 - Augustine of Hippo, Roman bishop and theologian

- 1312 - Edward III of England

- 1486 - Johann Eck, German theologian and academic

- 1493 - William IV, Duke of Bavaria

- 1559 - Albert VII, Archduke of Austria

- 1715 - Dorothea Christiane Erxleben, first female medical doctor in Germany

- 1850 - Robert Louis Stevenson, Scottish author and poet

- 1856 - Louis Brandeis, American lawyer and jurist

- 1869 - Helene Stöcker, German author and activist

- 1886 - Mary Wigman, German dancer and choreographer

- 1893 - Edward Adelbert Doisy, American biochemist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1934 - Garry Marshall, American actor, director, and producer

- 1955 - Whoopi Goldberg, American actress, comedan, and talk show host

- 1969 - Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Somalian-American activist and author

- 1969 - Gerard Butler, Scottish actor

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Quote of the day

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

- Aristotle -

Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Spanelsko

Nuremgard wrote:As long as it works for your country.

Yeah, the main reason for creating this was more or less 4-5 civil wars in 10 years based on ideology, monarchists and religious fanatics wanted king and theocracy, workers wanted communism, nationalists wanted to promote the state and stop communists from taking over and technocrats wanted more technology with meritocracy based state.

At that point we agreed that 1 ideology out of all these would fail again.

At that point we said fu*k this we do all.

Russkov Soviet, Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri

And that is the story of how Iberianism was created.

It surprisingly works quite well and all sides are pretty much happy.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri

Spanelsko wrote:And that is the story of how Iberianism was created.

It surprisingly works quite well and all sides are pretty much happy.

The three tenets of Salvatorian ideology are nationalism, Catholicism and the monarchy.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Spanelsko

Nuremgard wrote:The three tenets of Salvatorian ideology are nationalism, Catholicism and the monarchy.

So the constitutional monarchs are also technically theocrats?

Nationalism is of course the right way forward.

Nuremgard, Lavan Tiri

Spanelsko wrote:So the constitutional monarchs are also technically theocrats?

Nationalism is of course the right way forward.

Not necessarily. Catholicism is important because it's the national religion. The church holds a privileged position in society and is allowed to run schools and orphanages etc. And the clergy can advise the government and inform policy.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Spanelsko

Nuremgard wrote:Not necessarily. Catholicism is important because it's the national religion. The church holds a privileged position in society and is allowed to run schools and orphanages etc. And the clergy can advise the government and inform policy.

So church basically doenst really have a say in the government and work as advisors to the government, yet they still are mostly important due to high number of religious people and also probably national traditions which would likely make them a good ally for nationalists.

Right?

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri

Spanelsko wrote:So church basically doenst really have a say in the government and work as advisors to the government, yet they still are mostly important due to high number of religious people and also probably national traditions which would likely make them a good ally for nationalists.

Right?

Pretty much. Catholic doctrine does inform some policy such as marriage for straights only, no adoption for gay people, no contraception, the teaching of abstinence in school etc. Religion is important to maintain the nation's moral character and is important culturally. Being Catholic is part of being Salvatorian.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Spanelsko

Nuremgard wrote:Pretty much. Catholic doctrine does inform some policy such as marriage for straights only, no adoption for gay people, no contraception, the teaching of abstinence in school etc. Religion is important to maintain the nation's moral character and is important culturally. Being Catholic is part of being Salvatorian.

sounds great also this part= Being Catholic is part of being Salvatorian. does that mean that people in Salv can only be citizens if they follow Catholic church? if so how are seen other christians like for example protestants (kill them all) Orthodox, Coptic etc.?

Nuremgard, Lavan Tiri

Spanelsko wrote:sounds great also this part= Being Catholic is part of being Salvatorian. does that mean that people in Salv can only be citizens if they follow Catholic church? if so how are seen other christians like for example protestants (kill them all) Orthodox, Coptic etc.?

Other Christian denominations are allowed. I actually haven't given much thought to the social status of non-Catholics.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Spanelsko

Nuremgard wrote:Other Christian denominations are allowed. I actually haven't given much thought to the social status of non-Catholics.

Ok, i will take it as that Salvatorians didnt even think that there could be anyone that isnt christian :p

Also good night, tomorrow i have a lot of work to do, so good night friend.

Nuremgard, Lavan Tiri

Spanelsko wrote:Ok, i will take it as that Salvatorians didnt even think that there could be anyone that isnt christian :p

Also good night, tomorrow i have a lot of work to do, so good night friend.

Goodnight, bud.

Lavan Tiri

Nuremgard wrote:Goodnight, bud.

'Night

Lavan Tiri

Cesorion wrote:'Night

Nighty night.

Lavan Tiri, Cesorion

Alyaskinskaya wrote:Should I be Soviet Alaska? or Democratic Alaska?

'Fraid I already claimed alaska. If you wanna be a province in my nation, that can happen if you get citizenship rather than residency. Id be up for a democratic Alaskan province

Russkov Soviet, Lavan Tiri

Post self-deleted by Baxten.

Sulania wrote:The F-35 is a waste of money that has been in development hell for too long. Sad!

Catholics are cool.

:(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

Lavan Tiri

Spanelsko wrote:Yeah, the main reason for creating this was more or less 4-5 civil wars in 10 years based on ideology, monarchists and religious fanatics wanted king and theocracy, workers wanted communism, nationalists wanted to promote the state and stop communists from taking over and technocrats wanted more technology with meritocracy based state.

At that point we agreed that 1 ideology out of all these would fail again.

At that point we said fu*k this we do all.

Thats uh.. pretty impressive. I'd certainly have my hooves full trying to do that. I'm comfortable in my style, for now.

Communist Military, Communist/Tsarist (Monarchy)Leadership / and a Semi-democratic Government.... with a dash of a Dictatorship here n there.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, Spanelsko

So, it looks like I got acute bronchitis from genetics being a crapshoot :p

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:So, it looks like I got acute bronchitis from genetics being a crapshoot :p

Oh. Sorry to hear that, dude.

Lavan Tiri, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Pirate Kingdoms

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:So, it looks like I got acute bronchitis from genetics being a crapshoot :p

Sorry about that, man.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Pirate Kingdoms

Russkov Soviet wrote:Thats uh.. pretty impressive. I'd certainly have my hooves full trying to do that. I'm comfortable in my style, for now.

Communist Military, Communist/Tsarist (Monarchy)Leadership / and a Semi-democratic Government.... with a dash of a Dictatorship here n there.

That is kind of similar to mine.

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:Agreed. No one does ritual or grandeur like the Catholics.

I see your Roman Catholicism and raise you Greek Orthodoxy

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova

Finally have a basic timeline for my nation done:

-The Native Era (pre-1492)

-The Spanish Empire (1492 - 1764)

-The Hispanic Revolution (1764 - 1769)

-The Californian Republics (1769 - 1869)

-The German Colonization (1820 - 1869)

-The First Vistonian War [The Basin War] (1869 - 1864)

-The Pueblan Secession (1864 - 1869)

-The Altan Disputes (1869 - 1872)

-The Black Emancipation (1872 - 1906)

-The Second Vistonian War [The Noirian War] (1906 - 1910)

-The Memphis Occupation (1910 - 1931)

-The Noirian Revolt (1931 - 1933)

-The Pax Vistoni (1933 - 1996)

-The Final Vistonian War [The Dire War] (1820 - 1869)

-The Inaugural Confederation (2008 - 2023)

-The United Commonwealth (2023 - Present)

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova

Lavan Tiri wrote:I see your Roman Catholicism and raise you Greek Orthodoxy

Call.

Lavan Tiri

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRtis-xTZqMVel_GcHANXIKVrG1ZGzhFIM1XLq4Gwg5cJVicWxR

Mercunova

Vista Major wrote:Finally have a basic timeline for my nation done:

-The Native Era (pre-1492)

-The Spanish Empire (1492 - 1764)

-The Hispanic Revolution (1764 - 1769)

-The Californian Republics (1769 - 1869)

-The German Colonization (1820 - 1869)

-The First Vistonian War [The Basin War] (1869 - 1864)

-The Pueblan Secession (1864 - 1869)

-The Altan Disputes (1869 - 1872)

-The Black Emancipation (1872 - 1906)

-The Second Vistonian War [The Noirian War] (1906 - 1910)

-The Memphis Occupation (1910 - 1931)

-The Noirian Revolt (1931 - 1933)

-The Pax Vistoni (1933 - 1996)

-The Final Vistonian War [The Dire War] (1820 - 1869)

-The Inaugural Confederation (2008 - 2023)

-The United Commonwealth (2023 - Present)

Ah good, now that we have this completely unrelated info, it's time for an Onocarcan invasion.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri

Russkov Soviet wrote:Thats uh.. pretty impressive. I'd certainly have my hooves full trying to do that. I'm comfortable in my style, for now.

Communist Military, Communist/Tsarist (Monarchy)Leadership / and a Semi-democratic Government.... with a dash of a Dictatorship here n there.

Sounds interesting, normally i would say that the idea of Communist Monarch is at least weird but well i would have said that until the few days ago i made the Iberianist ideology.

BTW is the Equestrian communism the ´´real´´ (marxist) communism or is it the normal communism like Stalin, Mao etc.

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri

“A baying crowd would lack a certain decorum,” observes professional executioner Emily Brooks. “Instead, why not have the execution broadcast live on television? Millions could tune in from their own homes, and you could double the entertainment value by having viewers vote on what novel method of execution should be used. It’d be fun to see McGuffin get dropped in a shark tank, or drowned in custard, or squashed by a giant plastic foot, don’t you think?”

The Talking Point

Hit TV show 'The eXecution Factor' is a critical success.

HAHAHAAH

Lavan Tiri

Don't know if any of you haven't seen this yet, but here you go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix0z2eWWEVY

Lavan Tiri

Communist merchandise. How ironic. :)

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Kalaron, Mercunova, Yukona, Percyton

Spanelsko wrote:Sounds interesting, normally i would say that the idea of Communist Monarch is at least weird but well i would have said that until the few days ago i made the Iberianist ideology.

BTW is the Equestrian communism the ´´real´´ (marxist) communism or is it the normal communism like Stalin, Mao etc.

It's more of a 'Stalinist Version. We do/support things that the "real" Communism frowned upon.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Spanelsko

I wish theyd let us change our policies without issues but at least I dont have an immigration ban anymore

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, Percyton

Who else doesn't have prisons?

Russkov Soviet, Lavan Tiri, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton, Spanelsko

Minnesota Dakota wrote:Who else doesn't have prisons?

o/

Russkov Soviet, Lavan Tiri, Percyton

Still the second largest population, guess no one older has moved in since last time :p

Lavan Tiri, Percyton

Minnesota Dakota wrote:Who else doesn't have prisons?

us and we dont even have a judiciary system.

Lavan Tiri

Spanelsko wrote:us and we dont even have a judiciary system.

How does polygamy work with arranged marriages?

Lavan Tiri, Spanelsko

Minnesota Dakota wrote:How does polygamy work with arranged marriages?

we arrange that you have more wives!

Nuremgard, Lavan Tiri

Forced polygamy best polygamy.

Nuremgard, Lavan Tiri, Minnesota Dakota

I have applied for citizenship!

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia, Minnesota Dakota, Percyton

Birb.

Penguania And Antarctica

Lavan Tiri wrote:Birb.

Snek

Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

So, anybody up for an anti comitern pact?

Lavan Tiri

The Empire Of Handland wrote:So, anybody up for an anti comintern pact?

This isn't Hoi4

The Empire Of Handland, Lavan Tiri, Lex Caledonia

Minnesota Dakota wrote:This isn't Hoi4

But it can be, and that was an actual pact anyways.

Lavan Tiri

Minnesota Dakota wrote:This isn't Hoi4

You got HOI4?

Lavan Tiri, Lex Caledonia

Chalanka wrote:I have applied for citizenship!

Welcome! Make yourself at home.

Lavan Tiri

Flynnvakia wrote:You got HOI4?

No, I watch people play it.

Lavan Tiri

Is there a Comintern here? I would join if so.

Lavan Tiri, Axeldonia

This month last year I got my own place. It has been stressful and there have been problens but with time and effort, I am making my house my home.

Lavan Tiri, Lex Caledonia, Percyton

The constitution and rules say nothing of voter fraud. That should be there....

Lavan Tiri

Minnesota Dakota wrote:Is there a Comintern here? I would join if so.

Not a pure one, for sure. Most alliances don't care about economic styling though, or Concord at least.

Chalanka wrote:The constitution and rules say nothing of voter fraud. That should be there....

Citizenship is governed by WA membership. Quite frankly there is little more that could be done about the matter than to entrust NS with the ability to weed out an individual who's multi-accounting.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri

Kalaron wrote:

Citizenship is governed by WA membership. Quite frankly there is little more that could be done about the matter than to entrust NS with the ability to weed out an individual who's multi-accounting.

I'm just saying. The constitution and rules state nothing of voter fraud. If you want I'd love to help make it a stronger constitution and more rules to make it a better region. Just a proposal. I always want to be as helpful and active in the region I reside in.

Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Chalanka wrote:I'm just saying. The constitution and rules state nothing of voter fraud. If you want I'd love to help make it a stronger constitution and more rules to make it a better region. Just a proposal. I always want to be as helpful and active in the region I reside in.

*Shrug*

And I'm just explaining my view of the system at large. Any citizen is free to write bills as they wish tbh.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri

Hoi3 best Hoi.

Lavan Tiri

btw are there any other pacts other then the terrorist alliance of commies?

Be it military based or economy based, or just for diplomacy etc.

Russkov Soviet, Lavan Tiri

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=421225&p=32888636#p32888636

Did a post about the economic state of al-Qarn, oh boy

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Percyton

Spanelsko wrote:btw are there any other pacts other then the terrorist alliance of commies?

Be it military based or economy based, or just for diplomacy etc.

Well... I was gonna form the Greater Siberian Federation, but I'm not sure

Lavan Tiri, Percyton, Spanelsko

I'm going to a lecture that Nicola Sturgeon is giving next week. I might get the chance to meet her!

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia, Minnesota Dakota, Percyton, Czeko Russika

[B]TERMINATION NOTICE[/B]

It's come to the attention of my administration that The Confederacy of Free Nations, a long-standing friend of Libertatem, has come under the control of an individual on Libertatem's Terror Watch List. Throughout the summer, [nation=short]Hyderbourg[/nation] led a campaign of sabotage, coercion and intimidation against the government and people of Libertatem. He used a range of illicit tactics in order to attempt a coup d'état and unlawfully propel himself to power, including faking election poll results, creating puppets to rig elections in his favor, circumventing court orders, sabotaging our foreign policy to score political points and, unfortunately, bullying and harassing members of the community, which created a hostile and unwelcome atmosphere. He was convicted on multiple charges and banned from the region. This is all a matter of law on public record, and can be accessed on our Discord in the #court channel.

The full extent of his disturbing actions only came to light after he was banned, and so he was placed on the Terror Watch List on July 27th of this year. The fact that he's now in a position to lead this region means that the Confederacy, in the eyes of Libertatem, is now a state sponsor of terror. Continuing to maintain a relationship would be in effect endorsing the current regime, which would be totally antithetical to our values and disrespectful to the victims of Hyder's attacks.

This may not matter to you. But look at how quickly he's climbed the rungs of power in this region after just a few months of residency. Your region has fallen into the hands of a strongman who I doubt will consider giving up power any time soon.

Therefore, effective immediately, the Republic of Libertatem is terminating diplomatic relations with the Confederacy of Free Nations. I will also be asking the Senate to withdraw from the Libertatem-CFN sister region treaty.

But let me make something clear: our issue is with the Hyderbourg regime, not the people of the CFN. Our two regions have a long history of cooperation, and there are many good people here, like [nation=short]Vista Major[/nation] and [nation=short]Baxten[/nation], that have made contributions to both Libertatem and the Confederacy. The people of this great region should not be punished for the actions of one man. Therefore, I am going to propose legislation to the Senate creating a refugee program for peoples under the subjugation of rogue states and authoritarian regimes. To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, Libertatem is still a beacon, still a magnet for all who must have freedom, for all the pilgrims from all the lost places who are hurtling through the darkness, toward home.

Anyone looking to apply for refugee status may personally telegram me, and I will do my best to take care of you and make you welcome.

Yours, in liberty,

[nation=short]Pevvania[/nation]

President of Libertatem

Miencraft, Lavan Tiri

Pevvania wrote:Angery Snipperino

Are you kidding me, Pev?

Look, mate, y'all in Lib can do what you want, but I thought the COFN made it clear. What happens in y'all's region should stay out of here. Hyde won the election because no one else ran, and because he's a good dude.

I'm probably still going to talk to y'all, but this is some Grade A sillyness right here.

Jaslandia, The Empire Of Handland, Lavan Tiri, Vista Major, Axeldonia, Hyderbourg, Minnesota Dakota

Kalaron wrote:Are you kidding me, Pev?

Look, mate, y'all in Lib can do what you want, but I thought the COFN made it clear. What happens in y'all's region should stay out of here. Hyde won the election because no one else ran, and because he's a good dude.

I'm probably still going to talk to y'all, but this is some Grade A sillyness right here.

It's an explanation as to why diplomatic ties are being cut, not an attempt to make Libertatem drama yours.

Of course, the drama needs to be mentioned in order to accurately explain, but, still, it'd be rude to just close embassies and cut ties without explaining why.

Lavan Tiri

Miencraft wrote:It's an explanation as to why diplomatic ties are being cut, not an attempt to make Libertatem drama yours.

Of course, the drama needs to be mentioned in order to accurately explain, but, still, it'd be rude to just close embassies and cut ties without explaining why.

I suppose, though I still consider it a bit rude to call our standing president a "Strongman" when he honestly hasn't even done a thing here. I suppose the only way of changing your perception will come with time.

Lavan Tiri, Hyderbourg

Pevvania wrote:[B]TERMINATION NOTICE[/B]

It's come to the attention of my administration that The Confederacy of Free Nations, a long-standing friend of Libertatem, has come under the control of an individual on Libertatem's Terror Watch List. Throughout the summer, [nation=short]Hyderbourg[/nation] led a campaign of sabotage, coercion and intimidation against the government and people of Libertatem. He used a range of illicit tactics in order to attempt a coup d'état and unlawfully propel himself to power, including faking election poll results, creating puppets to rig elections in his favor, circumventing court orders, sabotaging our foreign policy to score political points and, unfortunately, bullying and harassing members of the community, which created a hostile and unwelcome atmosphere. He was convicted on multiple charges and banned from the region. This is all a matter of law on public record, and can be accessed on our Discord in the #court channel.

The full extent of his disturbing actions only came to light after he was banned, and so he was placed on the Terror Watch List on July 27th of this year. The fact that he's now in a position to lead this region means that the Confederacy, in the eyes of Libertatem, is now a state sponsor of terror. Continuing to maintain a relationship would be in effect endorsing the current regime, which would be totally antithetical to our values and disrespectful to the victims of Hyder's attacks.

This may not matter to you. But look at how quickly he's climbed the rungs of power in this region after just a few months of residency. Your region has fallen into the hands of a strongman who I doubt will consider giving up power any time soon.

Therefore, effective immediately, the Republic of Libertatem is terminating diplomatic relations with the Confederacy of Free Nations. I will also be asking the Senate to withdraw from the Libertatem-CFN sister region treaty.

But let me make something clear: our issue is with the Hyderbourg regime, not the people of the CFN. Our two regions have a long history of cooperation, and there are many good people here, like [nation=short]Vista Major[/nation] and [nation=short]Baxten[/nation], that have made contributions to both Libertatem and the Confederacy. The people of this great region should not be punished for the actions of one man. Therefore, I am going to propose legislation to the Senate creating a refugee program for peoples under the subjugation of rogue states and authoritarian regimes. To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, Libertatem is still a beacon, still a magnet for all who must have freedom, for all the pilgrims from all the lost places who are hurtling through the darkness, toward home.

Anyone looking to apply for refugee status may personally telegram me, and I will do my best to take care of you and make you welcome.

Yours, in liberty,

[nation=short]Pevvania[/nation]

President of Libertatem

I told you voter fraud should be dealt seriously. I knew something bad would happen.

Lavan Tiri

Pevvania wrote:[B]TERMINATION NOTICE[/B]

It's come to the attention of my administration that The Confederacy of Free Nations, a long-standing friend of Libertatem, has come under the control of an individual on Libertatem's Terror Watch List. Throughout the summer, [nation=short]Hyderbourg[/nation] led a campaign of sabotage, coercion and intimidation against the government and people of Libertatem. He used a range of illicit tactics in order to attempt a coup d'état and unlawfully propel himself to power, including faking election poll results, creating puppets to rig elections in his favor, circumventing court orders, sabotaging our foreign policy to score political points and, unfortunately, bullying and harassing members of the community, which created a hostile and unwelcome atmosphere. He was convicted on multiple charges and banned from the region. This is all a matter of law on public record, and can be accessed on our Discord in the #court channel.

The full extent of his disturbing actions only came to light after he was banned, and so he was placed on the Terror Watch List on July 27th of this year. The fact that he's now in a position to lead this region means that the Confederacy, in the eyes of Libertatem, is now a state sponsor of terror. Continuing to maintain a relationship would be in effect endorsing the current regime, which would be totally antithetical to our values and disrespectful to the victims of Hyder's attacks.

This may not matter to you. But look at how quickly he's climbed the rungs of power in this region after just a few months of residency. Your region has fallen into the hands of a strongman who I doubt will consider giving up power any time soon.

Therefore, effective immediately, the Republic of Libertatem is terminating diplomatic relations with the Confederacy of Free Nations. I will also be asking the Senate to withdraw from the Libertatem-CFN sister region treaty.

But let me make something clear: our issue is with the Hyderbourg regime, not the people of the CFN. Our two regions have a long history of cooperation, and there are many good people here, like [nation=short]Vista Major[/nation] and [nation=short]Baxten[/nation], that have made contributions to both Libertatem and the Confederacy. The people of this great region should not be punished for the actions of one man. Therefore, I am going to propose legislation to the Senate creating a refugee program for peoples under the subjugation of rogue states and authoritarian regimes. To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, Libertatem is still a beacon, still a magnet for all who must have freedom, for all the pilgrims from all the lost places who are hurtling through the darkness, toward home.

Anyone looking to apply for refugee status may personally telegram me, and I will do my best to take care of you and make you welcome.

Yours, in liberty,

[nation=short]Pevvania[/nation]

President of Libertatem

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Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Vista Major

Chalanka wrote:I told you voter fraud should be dealt seriously. I knew something bad would happen.

That's a joke, right?

Lavan Tiri

Kalaron wrote:That's a joke, right?

Voter fraud corrupts regions. I'm against it.

Lavan Tiri

Chalanka wrote:Voter fraud corrupts regions. I'm against it.

So it's a unrelated comment, then.

Liber is a wholly different region, and Hyde didn't fabricate votes to get in because he literally ran unopposed in our election.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Vista Major, Axeldonia

Pevvania wrote:[B]TERMINATION NOTICE[/B]

It's come to the attention of my administration that The Confederacy of Free Nations, a long-standing friend of Libertatem, has come under the control of an individual on Libertatem's Terror Watch List. Throughout the summer, [nation=short]Hyderbourg[/nation] led a campaign of sabotage, coercion and intimidation against the government and people of Libertatem. He used a range of illicit tactics in order to attempt a coup d'état and unlawfully propel himself to power, including faking election poll results, creating puppets to rig elections in his favor, circumventing court orders, sabotaging our foreign policy to score political points and, unfortunately, bullying and harassing members of the community, which created a hostile and unwelcome atmosphere. He was convicted on multiple charges and banned from the region. This is all a matter of law on public record, and can be accessed on our Discord in the #court channel.

The full extent of his disturbing actions only came to light after he was banned, and so he was placed on the Terror Watch List on July 27th of this year. The fact that he's now in a position to lead this region means that the Confederacy, in the eyes of Libertatem, is now a state sponsor of terror. Continuing to maintain a relationship would be in effect endorsing the current regime, which would be totally antithetical to our values and disrespectful to the victims of Hyder's attacks.

This may not matter to you. But look at how quickly he's climbed the rungs of power in this region after just a few months of residency. Your region has fallen into the hands of a strongman who I doubt will consider giving up power any time soon.

Therefore, effective immediately, the Republic of Libertatem is terminating diplomatic relations with the Confederacy of Free Nations. I will also be asking the Senate to withdraw from the Libertatem-CFN sister region treaty.

But let me make something clear: our issue is with the Hyderbourg regime, not the people of the CFN. Our two regions have a long history of cooperation, and there are many good people here, like [nation=short]Vista Major[/nation] and [nation=short]Baxten[/nation], that have made contributions to both Libertatem and the Confederacy. The people of this great region should not be punished for the actions of one man. Therefore, I am going to propose legislation to the Senate creating a refugee program for peoples under the subjugation of rogue states and authoritarian regimes. To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, Libertatem is still a beacon, still a magnet for all who must have freedom, for all the pilgrims from all the lost places who are hurtling through the darkness, toward home.

Anyone looking to apply for refugee status may personally telegram me, and I will do my best to take care of you and make you welcome.

Yours, in liberty,

[nation=short]Pevvania[/nation]

President of Libertatem

This is not the first time that Hyder has been a leader of our region; mind you, he was President here once before. Nothing is great consequence happened.

Furthermore, as the descendents of many eras of tyranny, we know how to leave and start anew; this refugee program would only serve to patronize us. We are not feeble, helpless, or oppressed. Do not speak to us as such.

Not to mention that if you are willing to terminate a years-long relationship because of one individual you had a bad spit with (trust me, I was there during the whole Reform Party debacle), it really does show how loose our ties were in the first place, acknowledging our current referendum.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Hyderbourg, Penguania And Antarctica

Pevvania wrote:-Snip-

Aren't you contradicting yourself? You don't want to punish the people of the CoFN, just Hyder. But with closing the embassies and breaking of all ties don't you punish the people of the CoFN?

But on another note:

What will happen if Hyder leaves office? Are we then still considered a terror region or does Libertatem want to restore relations?

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Vista Major, Axeldonia

[spoiler=Today is November 14 and today are:]

Today is November 14 and today are:

- Anniversary of the Movement of Readjustment (Guinea-Bissau)

- Bal Diwas (India)

- Day of the Colombian Woman (Colombia)

- Loosen Up, Lighten Up Day

- Mobile Brigade Day (Indonesia)

- National Pickle Day (United States)

- National Spicy Guacamole Day (United States)

- Operating Room Nurse Day

- That Luang Festival (Laos)

- World Diabetes Day

- Young Readers Day

[/spoiler]

[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 1770 – James Bruce discovers what he believes to be the source of the Nile.

- 1812 – Napoleonic Wars: Battle of Smoliani, French Marshals Victor & Oudinot defeated by Wittgenstein.

- 1851 – Moby-Dick, a novel by Herman Melville, is published in the USA.

- 1862 – American Civil War: President Abraham Lincoln approves General Ambrose Burnside's plan to capture the Confederate capital at Richmond, Virginia, leading to the Battle of Fredericksburg.

- 1886 – Friedrich Soennecken first developed the hole puncher, a type of office tool capable of punching small holes in paper.

- 1889 – Pioneering female journalist Nellie Bly (aka Elizabeth Cochrane) begins a successful attempt to travel around the world in less than 80 days. She completes the trip in 72 days.

- 1910 – Aviator Eugene Burton Ely performs the first takeoff from a ship in Hampton Roads, Virginia. He took off from a makeshift deck on the USS Birmingham in a Curtiss pusher.

- 1918 – Czechoslovakia becomes a republic.

- 1921 – Foundation of the Communist Party of Spain.

- 1922 – The British Broadcasting Company begins radio service in the United Kingdom.

- 1938 – The Lions Gate Bridge, connecting Vancouver to the North Shore region, opens to traffic.

- 1940 – World War II: In England, Coventry is heavily bombed by German Luftwaffe bombers. Coventry Cathedral is almost completely destroyed.

- 1941 – World War II: The aircraft carrier HMS Ark Royal sinks due to torpedo damage from the German submarine U-81 sustained on November 13.

- 1941 – World War II: In Slonim, German forces engaged in Operation Barbarossa murder 9,000 Jews in a single day.

- 1952 – The first regular UK Singles Chart published by the New Musical Express.

- 1957 – The "Apalachin Meeting" in rural Tioga County in upstate New York is raided by law enforcement; many high level Mafia figures are arrested while trying to flee.

- 1960 – Ruby Bridges becomes the first black child to attend an all-white elementary school in Louisiana.

- 1965 – Vietnam War: The Battle of Ia Drang begins: The first major engagement between regular American and North Vietnamese forces.

- 1967 – The Congress of Colombia, in commemoration of the 150 years of the death of Policarpa Salavarrieta, declares this day as "Day of the Colombian Woman".

- 1967 – American physicist Theodore Maiman is given a patent for his ruby laser systems, the world's first laser.

- 1969 – Apollo program: NASA launches Apollo 12, the second crewed mission to the surface of the Moon.

- 1970 – Soviet Union enters ICAO, making Russian the fourth official language of organization.

- 1970 – Southern Airways Flight 932 crashes in the mountains near Huntington, West Virginia, killing 75, including members of the Marshall University football team.

- 1971 – Mariner 9 enters orbit around Mars.

- 1973 – In the United Kingdom, Princess Anne marries Captain Mark Phillips, in Westminster Abbey.

- 1973 – The Athens Polytechnic uprising, a massive demonstration of popular rejection of the Greek military junta of 1967–74, begins.

- 1975 – With the signing of the Madrid Accords, Spain abandons Western Sahara.

- 1978 – France conducts the Aphrodite nuclear test as 25th in the group of 29, 1975–78 French nuclear tests.

- 1979 – Iran hostage crisis: US President Jimmy Carter issues Executive order 12170, freezing all Iranian assets in the United States in response to the hostage crisis.

- 1982 – Lech Wałęsa, the leader of Poland's outlawed Solidarity movement, is released after eleven months of internment near the Soviet border.

- 1984 – Zamboanga City mayor Cesar Climaco, a prominent critic of the government of Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos, is assassinated in his home city.

- 1990 – After German reunification, the Federal Republic of Germany and Poland sign a treaty confirming the Oder–Neisse line as the border between Germany and Poland.

- 1991 – American and British authorities announce indictments against two Libyan intelligence officials in connection with the downing of the Pan Am Flight 103.

- 1991 – Cambodian Prince Norodom Sihanouk returns to Phnom Penh after thirteen years of exile.

- 1995 – A budget standoff between Democrats and Republicans in the U.S. Congress forces the federal government to temporarily close national parks and museums and to run most government offices with skeleton staffs.

- 2001 – War in Afghanistan: Afghan Northern Alliance fighters take over the capital Kabul.

- 2003 – Astronomers Michael E. Brown, Chad Trujillo, and David L. Rabinowitz discover 90377 Sedna, a Trans-Neptunian object.

- 2008 – The first G-20 economic summit opens in Washington, D.C.

- 2012 – Israel launches a major military operation in the Gaza Strip, as hostilities with Hamas escalate.

- 2016 – A magnitude 7.8 earthquake strikes Kaikoura, New Zealand, at a depth of 15 km (9 miles), resulting in the deaths of two people.

[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1719 - Leopold Mozart, Austrian violinist, composer, and conductor, father of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

- 1765 - Robert Fulton, American engineer, invented the steamboat

- 1771 - Marie François Xavier Bichat, French anatomist and physiologist

- 1840 - Claude Monet, French painter

- 1859 - Hermann Bahlsen, German entrepreneur

- 1889 - Jawaharlal Nehru, Indian lawyer and politician, 1st Prime Minister of India

- 1891 - Frederick Banting, Canadian physician and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1898 - Benjamin Fondane, Romanian-French philosopher, poet, and critic

- 1907 - William Steig, American author, illustrator, and sculptor

- 1907 - Astrid Lindgren, Swedish author and screenwriter

- 1912 - Barbara Hutton, American philanthropist

- 1917 - Park Chung-hee, South Korean general and politician, 3rd President of South Korea

- 1922 - Boutros Boutros-Ghali, Egyptian politician and diplomat, 6th Secretary General of the United Nations

- 1930 - Edward Higgins White, American colonel, engineer, and astronaut

- 1932 - Gunter Sachs, German astrologer and photographer

- 1935 - Hussein of Jordan

- 1948 - Charles Mountbatten-Windsor, Prince of Wales

- 1954 - Bernard Hinault, French cyclist

- 1954 - Condoleezza Rice, American political scientist, academic, and politician, 66th United States Secretary of State

- 1971 - Adam Gilchrist, Australian cricketer and sportscaster

- 1972 - Josh Duhamel, American model and actor

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Quote of the day

Simplicity and repose are the qualities that measure the true value of any work of art.

- Frank Lloyd Wright -

Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Vista Major, Kalaron, Percyton

Hey guys, I missed the yesterday deadline but I have a lot of time today to spend writing y'all. So, if your worried about your country's economic ability to replace it's fighters with the F-35, or worry about it being effective given the seeming pain of the program, read this :D

[Spoiler=The case for the F-35, and why Sprey is a big damn turkey] Alright, to be certain of how the F-35 operates, we need to address who the Critics are...and the biggest one is ol' Sprey.

If you take anything away from this, I pray to god that you take this: Sprey is not the man you put in the head of a Military, he's honestly actually a guy I detest as his mentality boils down to equipping "Many pilots with Many aircraft" with no emphasis on quality at all. He wants aircraft to be many, and to only have what they would need to fly. He's hardly a step-off from fully mummering about how "We have reserves".

Sprey started out as part of the "Fighter Mafia" that was established to lobby for fighters equipped with only what they needed. This was called, helpfully, the Energy/Maneuverability theory, and it set into motion some motions about what was absolutely preferable in an aircraft. Of course, as with all things, it's not the end-all be-all and the lightest fighter doesn't necessarily beat a heavier one...provided the heavier fighter has good equipment.

You see, Sprey's big accomplishment as a part of the Fighter Mafia, if you choose to believe him, is the almost omni-present F-16 that countries around the world use, and yet he never spent a day designing it and was critical of it and it's larger brother-in-law the F-15 because they got an "unnecessary" feature in his mind, missiles and radar.

Naturally, as -mostly- well educated adults, we can think about the results of an aircraft that remains unequipped without missiles and it isn't very pretty. We can only imagine how much worse it is for an aircraft without even so much as a Radar Antenna.

Perhaps the most clear example of Sprey's ignorance and willingness to refuse Soldiers deservedly modern equipment lies in his open statement as to the comparative effectiveness of a M48A5 (A very old, very outdated tank) compared to the M1A2, America's modern and capable tank.

He openly declares that the M1A2 is a "Expensive loser" because of it’s higher weight, yes indeed he promises that the ability to field more M48A5 tanks is in reality a superior advantage to having a well armoured, well armed and modern tank. By this point, however, it shouldn't suprise you to learn that he want even correct with his promise. The United States alone fields some eleven thousand tanks from the M1 line.

Now, having adressed the man behind the Criticism, and his qualifications to raise the same complaints time and time again, let's adress the complaints themselves.

The F-35 has no cannon, this is another Vietnam with the F-4

This claim is based on the historical tragedy that was the Vietnam War, and the perceived vulnerabilities of deploying aircraft with only missiles as a weapon.

I'm sure this seems hypocritical now, after all didn't I just say that the aircraft without certain necessary features is less capable than those with them?

The differences, my keen-eyed and lovely reader, is that the gun is almost never used anymore in air to air combat. The proliferation of Beyond Visual Range Air to Air Missiles (BVRAAMs) and modern Within Visual Range Missiles (WVRAAMs) that operate off of a High Off Boresight sensor system has essentially rendered the gun a moot point in the design of the F-35. The craft is bulky, and it's optimized to pick you up from far, far further away before firing a missile towards you, and as the post ODS world has shown us, Aircraft Guns are considered irrelevant (The only gun kills being against helicopters) so the Gun is, if anything, more of a liability than anything. It actually does fall into something to cut out to free up energy for maneuvers.

The A-10 is the best Strike Fighter ever, and it's also cheaper then the F-35. Hell, if we're looking at lighter fighters, why not just stay with the F-16?

Well, this one is a bit harder to explain, but it's quite simple. The A-10 is quite resilient and it is cheaper in a sense, being nearly twenty million dollars versus the F-35A's near 95 Million. For a single F-35 you could get four and a half A-10s, and that's a pretty good deal until you realize the disparity in capabilities.

This isn't a game, my friends. The A-10 doesn't cost four resource points for a combat strength of six while the F-35 costs seven for eight. The F-35's capabilities don't just make it harder to shoot-down, but also harder to damage, the old Slow and Low approach are simply no longer advisable as man portable air defense devices continue to become cheaper and more widely distributed. Even now the Taliban holds honest to god Stingers, and the ways to counter such a MANPAD are limited. The historical way to counter such MANPADs (Chaff primarily) is quite likely going to become less effective as time passes, so the new way is to use a craft that it designed for stealthy function. This cuts down on the cost of fielding an Airforce, as the repairs one might otherwise be forced to undergo are only going to become more and more extensive.

The F-35 costs far, far too much. Can't we simply use a different aircraft?

The sad answer is that you really can't. The F-35 is a multi-role aircraft and it cost a massive amount of money to develop it. This amount wasn't wasted, honestly, because the F-35 performs admirably compared to the aircraft that it is meant to replace.

Is it the best Strike Fighter? Arguably, yes. It's replacing two designs that are wholly deficient for the task in the modern day and advancing future. The F-16 is too light to carry out the task, and the A-10 isn't economically advisable or particularly survivable.

The other roles delegated to it -typically being things like Fleet Interference, Air Superiority and other sundry tasks are all ones that it is at least on par with -if not outright superior- compared to the designs it's replacing/supplementing.

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I got some more but I'm tired and kinda sick.

Lavan Tiri

Chalanka wrote:Voter fraud corrupts regions. I'm against it.

Ha, you're against it but you have done it yourself. Please don't be hypocritical.

Lavan Tiri

Got my wisdom teeth pulled today. My mouth is still swollen, and I have a bunch of dietary restrictions to follow and pills to take, but it went well overall. Hopefully I can rest and recover over the next few days.

Pevvania wrote:[spoiler][B]TERMINATION NOTICE[/B]

It's come to the attention of my administration that The Confederacy of Free Nations, a long-standing friend of Libertatem, has come under the control of an individual on Libertatem's Terror Watch List. Throughout the summer, [nation=short]Hyderbourg[/nation] led a campaign of sabotage, coercion and intimidation against the government and people of Libertatem. He used a range of illicit tactics in order to attempt a coup d'état and unlawfully propel himself to power, including faking election poll results, creating puppets to rig elections in his favor, circumventing court orders, sabotaging our foreign policy to score political points and, unfortunately, bullying and harassing members of the community, which created a hostile and unwelcome atmosphere. He was convicted on multiple charges and banned from the region. This is all a matter of law on public record, and can be accessed on our Discord in the #court channel.

The full extent of his disturbing actions only came to light after he was banned, and so he was placed on the Terror Watch List on July 27th of this year. The fact that he's now in a position to lead this region means that the Confederacy, in the eyes of Libertatem, is now a state sponsor of terror. Continuing to maintain a relationship would be in effect endorsing the current regime, which would be totally antithetical to our values and disrespectful to the victims of Hyder's attacks.

This may not matter to you. But look at how quickly he's climbed the rungs of power in this region after just a few months of residency. Your region has fallen into the hands of a strongman who I doubt will consider giving up power any time soon.

Therefore, effective immediately, the Republic of Libertatem is terminating diplomatic relations with the Confederacy of Free Nations. I will also be asking the Senate to withdraw from the Libertatem-CFN sister region treaty.

But let me make something clear: our issue is with the Hyderbourg regime, not the people of the CFN. Our two regions have a long history of cooperation, and there are many good people here, like [nation=short]Vista Major[/nation] and [nation=short]Baxten[/nation], that have made contributions to both Libertatem and the Confederacy. The people of this great region should not be punished for the actions of one man. Therefore, I am going to propose legislation to the Senate creating a refugee program for peoples under the subjugation of rogue states and authoritarian regimes. To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, Libertatem is still a beacon, still a magnet for all who must have freedom, for all the pilgrims from all the lost places who are hurtling through the darkness, toward home.

Anyone looking to apply for refugee status may personally telegram me, and I will do my best to take care of you and make you welcome.

Yours, in liberty,

[nation=short]Pevvania[/nation]

President of Libertatem[/spoiler]

Pevv, I like you, and I respect many of Libertatem's leaders (especially seeing I was among them as Attorney-General for a few terms), but this seems a little ridiculous. I get you have some beef with Hyde, and the CoFN won't get involved with that, but it seems silly for you to consider us a 'state sponsor of terror' just because we elected someone you REALLY don't like. Even if your allegations about what he did in Libertatem are true, there is no proof or even allegations that Hyderbourg has done anything wrong while in the CoFN. And it sounds like you're suggesting the CoFN needs a 'refugee' program to save people from the Hyderbourg 'regime'? That seems a little far-fetched. I'm not aware of anyone who wants to leave because Hyderbourg was elected, and even if there were such people, they can leave and go to almost any region with or without you.

If you have proof that Hydebourg is a threat to the CoFN in particular, please present it to us or to the Cabinet (you should have presented it during the election if you didn't want Hyderbourg elected, but better late than never). Otherwise, I kindly ask you keep your opinion of Hyde to yourself and respect the fairly elected leader of our region.

Miencraft wrote:It's an explanation as to why diplomatic ties are being cut, not an attempt to make Libertatem drama yours.

Of course, the drama needs to be mentioned in order to accurately explain, but, still, it'd be rude to just close embassies and cut ties without explaining why.

Cutting diplomatic ties over Hyde's actions in Libertatem is in effect bringing Libertatem drama here, so your argument contradicts itself. To be frank, we want to move on from what Hyde did in Libertatem. If you have any evidence of Hyde doing wrong in the CoFN, we're willing to listen.

Lavan Tiri, Vista Major, Axeldonia, Kalaron, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, Hapocrid

So what do you guys do here?

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Axeldonia, Minnesota Dakota, Percyton

Jaslandia wrote:If you have any evidence of Hyde doing wrong in the CoFN, we're willing to listen.

We are sister regions, at least until the Senate ends the treaty. Him having done wrong to Libertatem should have been seen as doing wrong to CoFN as well. But sadly it seems we were sister regions in name only.

It's for the best, anyways, I don't seem to recall our regions doing all that much together regardless.

Lavan Tiri

Miencraft wrote:We are sister regions, at least until the Senate ends the treaty. Him having done wrong to Libertatem should have been seen as doing wrong to CoFN as well. But sadly it seems we were sister regions in name only.

It's for the best, anyways, I don't seem to recall our regions doing all that much together regardless.

We are sister regions in diplomacy, not in judiciary. We have separate legal systems and separate laws, so it makes sense that we won't automatically condemn a nation that was condemned in Libertatem. You are free to 'warn' us about Hyderbourg and share any information you have about him potentially posing a threat to the CoFN, but when it comes to a legal and policy judgement, we'd rather make our own decisions.

I was in favor of renewing a sister relationship between Libertatem and the CoFN, but if you're going to be this intransigent on this Hyderbourg thing, then perhaps a split might be best for the time being. But, I'll leave that to our Chancellor and Foreign Affairs Minister in the end.

Hapocrid wrote:So what do you guys do here?

A few things. Regional elections and politics, role-playing (both casual and formal), and just casual discussion and chatter.

Lavan Tiri, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, Percyton, Hapocrid

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