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Well hes Vote Leave anyway so he wouldnt campaign for Remain
I'm going to bring up something rather controversial:
The United States should end all foreign aid. We need to balance our budget since we're 21 trillion in the hole right now, and yes we really should do something like slash our defense spending like 50% and cut other unnecessary spending as well.
But to the original part of my subject, if people want aid, they could beg Russia or China for aid or something.
Yukona
Define unnecessary spending. Also, you know what else doesn't help the debt and deficit? Massive tax cuts for the already obscenely wealthy.
Axeldonia
We're going to be hearing about Brexit for the next century aren't we?
Axeldonia
What antisemitism?
anti-zionism =/= antisemitism
Nuremgard, Axeldonia
Sssshhhh. We're not allowed to criticise Israel. They're saintly and amazing and to say otherwise makes you worse than Hitler.
Axeldonia
It's so supremely dumb and misinformed to accuse the Labour party of antisemitism.
In 2016 a House select committee found antisemitism to be no more prevalent in the Labour Party than in any other party in the UK. Additionally, in 2015, 2016 and 2017 YouGov carried out surveys across the UK and found Labour supporters were actually less likely to be antisemitic than those who were supporters of the Tories or UKIP.
Not only that, but 3 separate Jewish groups (all left leaning or otherwise anti-zionist) have pointed out that the allegations of antisemitism are increasingly being levelled against comments which criticised Israel or were used as a means of undermining Corbyn.
The whole situation is dumb and anyone who thinks they're familiar with UK politics and accuses Labour of being antisemitic is terribly misinformed.
Nuremgard, Axeldonia
All the while this is going on, the media is conveniently ignoring Islamophobia in the Tory Party. But you are correct. Ultimately, this antisemitism BS is just a way to get rid of a leftist, pro-Palestine leader.
Isn't it amazing how all this antisemitism just appeared out of nowhere as soon as Corbyn got elected? Where were all these horrible Jew-haters when Miliband was leader?
Axeldonia
Its just become a bandwagon at this point.
Oh my local party deselected me? Wow Corbyn is so antisemitic.
Whoa Corbyn did something I disagree with? Oh gee so much antisemitism in this party.
This Frank Field Labour whip who resigned because of 'antisemitism'? He had been deselected by his own local party because he had been supporting Theresa May in parliamentary votes. It wasn't even about antisemitism, he just jumped on the wagon when he lost support.
Nuremgard, Axeldonia
oh and at a party to celebrate Frank Field reaching 30 years in parliament Margaret Thatcher turned up, so yunno
a true labour hero this guy
Nuremgard, Axeldonia
but like
The Nazis did target non-Jewish people too? Like, what's wrong with changing the name to reflect that?
Axeldonia
also this is a 2011 parliamentary motion that didn't even go anywhere, this is such a great bit of digging done to find a single low-quality example his opponents can wave around.
Axeldonia
He also said disabled people should be paid less than able bodied people.
A true Labour man of equality and principle. But apparently, according to the Guardian, Field is a "voice worth hearing."
Axeldonia
You don't get it. The Jews were special. The fact that numerous other minorities were targeted, brutalised and murdered on a systematic scale is irrelevant because...Jews.
Axeldonia
"Labour under Corbyn, a hard-left politician who has called Hezbollah and Hamas his 'friends' and who is fighting accusations of harboring anti-Semitic sentiments, has come under intense scrutiny over anti-Semitic rhetoric by party members. In 2016, an inter-parliamentary committee accused Labour of creating a 'safe space for those with vile attitudes towards Jewish people.'"
Corbyn is "hard-left." Lol.
Axeldonia
And many Jews are happy to bring up memories of the Holocaust to serve their own political agenda.
Axeldonia
Holocaust specifically refers to Jews, it's only broader later definitions that incorporate all the other minorities in there.
Thanks for finding a single study that says otherwise and then acting like that disproves the 3 different surveys, and 1 select committee enquiry.
This is extremely surprising when you were like, the biggest anti-Israel guy in this region just a short period ago, who referred to Israel as an ' apartheid ethnostate that should be boycotted, divested, and sanctioned'. I have a feeling you're stirring up conflict just because.
Nuremgard, Axeldonia
So nationalising industries and funding the health service is hard left now?
Oh, no. He wants to give the NHS more money. What an awful, evil commie he is.
You do realise that state-owned railways is the norm in Europe right?
Axeldonia
It's targeting the whole party, not just the leadership.
And it's weird you'd say that Israel and antisemitism are two entirely different topics, because many of these allegations of antisemitism stem from criticisms of Israel.
Nuremgard, Axeldonia
It's not just the railways. It's also water and energy. Additionally, my objection regarding the NHS isn't about the fact that Labour supports an influx in general, but that it supports a 30 billion pound influx, which is pretty high considering potential efficiency savings. Also, Euroscepticism is not the norm in most European center-left parties. And according to you, Corbyn is just a regular ol' leftist, not someone on the hard left.
He's not hard-left, mate. No matter how much you or the media claim he is. Most Brits wouldn't know hard-left if it slapped them on the bollocks because political discourse has moved so far to the right here that anything to the left of Genghis Khan is considered communist madness.
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Every country and its leaders has "concerning" friends. I'm very concerned by how much my government sucks Saudi dick on the international stage but I don't hear much condemnation of it in the mainstream media.
Axeldonia
Also, why isn't David Cameron being accused of being a friend of terrorists? He went to Nelson Mandela's funeral and as wl all know, according to the Tories, Mandela was an awful terrorist who should have been hanged. Not to mention the fact that the British state colluded with unionist terrorist groups during the Troubles in Northern Ireland.
Funny how it's only Corbyn's links to terrorists that are brought to national attention.
Axeldonia
I'm not being a partisan hack, I am pointing out the monumental hypocrisy on the right concerning the issue. I have no skin in the game as I'm an SNP man. I can simply see through the BS the media is pushing.
Corbyn has many faults as Labour leader but if you expect me to believe he is some sort of anti-Semitic monster? Not a chance. Show me concrete evidence that Corbyn has said something or did something that incontrovertibly proves he hates Jews.
Mate, Corbyn could publicly swear allegiance to Benjamin Netanyahu and he'd be accused of antisemitism because he didn't bow low enough to the man.
How exactly is he condoning antisemitism?
I don't doubt there are anti-Semites within Labour. There's anti-Semites everywhere. But if anybody is engaging in hyperbole, it's some Jews and MPs who are behaving as if Corbyn is Adolf Hitler and that Britain is 1930s Germany.
David Blunkett said this was a "threat to democracy itself." This is just hysterical screeching, not criticism.
Well whether it is or isn't is ultimately no concern of mine.
I'm sorry that I put my family's and country's interests before a party that gives zero f*cks about me or my country. I guess that doesn't make me the best person.
You must be a saint then.
Nuremgard
I'm sure when all those Tories go to the polls to vote for austerity, they are thinking about what's best for other people.
Because no matter how bad people claim the left is, the Tories are and always will be worse.
Being partisan is in vogue these days.
115+ RMB posts... and most are political. I can't be arsed to read them.
Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Anglia Imperium
Watch this space. When/if Corbyn is removed as leader, the "antisemitism issue" will magically disappear. If I was him, I'd leave politics, let some Blairite take over and watch the party rot.
A Blairite Labour party, yes. England is basically f*cked at this point in terms of its political parties. Thank God we have the SNP up here as an alternative.
Same.
Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia
They are f*cked because they wont elect Corbyn, because they believe the media who tell them he's an anti-Semitic psychotic communist.
Also, I don't like Corbyn. As I've said before, I'm lukewarm to him. He's a unionist after all and knows the square root of f*ck all about Scotland so I don't have much time for him.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-38207729
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/aug/20/lockerbie-bomber-released
They're the best of a bad bunch.
The Greens or I just wouldn't vote at all.
Well.... this is turning out bloodier than expected. I found some warfare sim and decided to run a conflict between Spanelsko and myself. Sadly, I lost the link and can't remember what the site was called. I've got to stop doing this stuff at 3 am. But... I did get some figures written down.
(Incomplete figures)
The war has been going on for roughly three weeks at this point. We both share similar "no retreat" tactics which has led to hand to hand fighting of a ferocity not seen since the World Wars. Casualties are estimated to be at around 64,000 with most of the conflict being waged on land. Given the way each side fights, the war will not be 'won' by either side, but will result in the decimation of each sides armed forces.
So... on that note... I'm making a new flag and name for that eventual date.
Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Spanelsko
Ah yes, I too can type in: *insert political party* is bad in google too.
Nuremgard, Mercunova
I am going to try and reduce public spending in Nuremgard. Hopefully I can get taxes down to something more reasonable. That'll take years no doubt. I may need to sacrifice my country's welfare state and public services in order to raise their disposable income. But we'll see what happens.
Russkov Soviet
Damn, I wish you still had the link, that sounds interesting.
Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
My way of showing you moral support.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U06jlgpMtQs
Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia
I'll look through my browser history when I get home tonight, in.... three hours.
Конный союз никогда не будет кланяться спанелско! Наша артиллерия будет разрушать их города, наши танки будут катиться по улицам, и небо будет наполнено нашими самолетами. С вашими штыками, голыми руками, зубами... Слезы несчастных фашистов друг от друга! URA!!
Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
Well... I wasn't able to find the site, so I did something unnecessarily complicated and harder than needed. I took a look at both of our armies, from the soldiers to the vehicles, and attempted to compare them one-by-one. Unfortunately, Spanelsko hasn't specified models, years, or other factors that Kalaron would want... So, I had to go off of 1970's to 2000's vehicles. The results are not accurate in any sense, but match the earlier post. This war is going to be a draw, but only due to the great cost it will bring on the both of us.
Nuremgard, Jaslandia
Nice new flag.
Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia
Thank you. I figured it was time to embrace the truth.
Nuremgard, Jaslandia
I read an article in the Guardian today about Turkey. In the picture they used, they showed northern Cyprus as being part of Turkey. Many comments complained about this but one user, named Mehmet, said the whole island should be red, i.e. under Turkish control.
You were right about the Mehmets!
Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova, Yukona, Gualimole
MESSAGE FROM THE OFFICE OF THE SPEAKER
B024 has now moved to third reading vote.
http://thecoffincofn.boards.net/thread/104/b024-border-security-act
http://thecoffincofn.boards.net/thread/104/b024-border-security-act
http://thecoffincofn.boards.net/thread/104/b024-border-security-act
http://thecoffincofn.boards.net/thread/104/b024-border-security-act
Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia
The SNP is now the second largest party in the UK by membership, overtaking even the Tories. Moreover, a recent poll has shown that a majority of Scots would vote for independence in the event of Brexit.
Incredible stuff. A sign of things to come I hope.
Axeldonia, Lex Caledonia
S O O N
Nuremgard, Axeldonia
Fingers crossed!
Axeldonia
Are you up early or up late?
Axeldonia
Sleeping schedules f*cked so Im trying to reset it :L
Nuremgard, Axeldonia, Anglia Imperium
Why have the same limk four times?
Oh hey The Society For Black Sheep! Welcome to the CoFN. (This is Cesorion)
Sheep is one of the best people you'll meet
Penguania And Antarctica
OOC
I forgot to add dates to my weapons and other stuff XD But yeah 1970s to 2000s is about right.
IC
It is yet another glorious day, bolsheviks are dying, civilians are screaming, cities are burning, and soon winter will come. I am sure that our goal of destabilisation of the new USSR will be an overall success, this might even become in history books as the only partial victory Spanelsko ever achieved.... i am so happy.... yet so empty.... may god of chaos protect us all.
Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia
Jaslandia, Gualimole
My high school statistics teacher would often repeat things four times so that people understood. You lot aren't the brightest bunch, so I've chosen to apply that idea here.
I had a teacher who did that but I think it was because he had Tourette's or something, not intentional
Bearlong, Penguania And Antarctica
Making pro-business, privatising, tax-cutting measures hurts me. Especially because my poor's income is being drastically slashed (and my taxes have barely shifted.)
But Nuremgard has a Conservative government. And the country must live within its means, tighten its belt, all in it together *insert meaningless BS Con line here*
Bearlong, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova
In order to better calculate the potential cost and casualties of this conflict you've started, I need the numbers of the troops you deployed to the front lines. Please keep true to the figures you posted in your factbook and I'll do the same by using the RP numbers Kalaron laid down before he left.
And to those monitoring the conflict, I have a question. Since the numbers (so far) are pointing to a bloody and devastating draw... What are two things we should do as a result of this? {For example... I have to pull my troops out of Sodor and cease naval operations in the English Channel, at least for a time. While Span has to cease operations somewhere and... I dunno.}
-(Current casualties have reached an alarming 85,000 for both sides combined.)-
Hey everyone.
Russkov Soviet, Penguania And Antarctica
Considering my numbers and groups around 15000 militia and insurgents through out your nation, i was thinking of a naval landing later depending on situation, either striking from the Black Sea or opening a Siberian Volga Front, however for SVF to happen it would require fall of Crimea and break trough near Caucasus towards Volga and the SWA. Majority of my forces are back home, so it is more then likely that those insurgency groups will be wiped out soon, also just because i said 15K militia it doesn't mean anywhere near each other, as each of the groups named before were spread out with my main force in Moscow, of course each of the groups have their own ´´cells´´ and regions of activity. But if you want a general idea: Siberian White Army: Western Siberia and near Ural 3K (moving west)
Fascist Front of Greater Russia: Caucasus and near eastern Ukraine 4K
Euroasian National Bolshevik Brotherhood: Lenigrad, Northern Russia and near Moscow areas 6K
Legion of the Great Horde: Moscow and Crimea (ethnic Iberians) 2K
Random info: I adjusted the numbers of militia according to losses of life, so it would be more fair.
Also random question from me: You know i am not in any RP right? :p I made the Moscow event for fun since i was bored and didn't expect you to continue it :) But i am fine with doing this as long as its alright with you.
Russkov Soviet
Got it. I'll crank some figures tonight. And to answer your question: I know your not in an RP. I meant RP numbers just so I wouldn't have to calculate a 3 mil on 6 mil fight or something, considering that is a bit excessive. And I enjoy this. I mean... you bombed Moscow (Mareskov in my country).
Spanelsko
<<< Chooses the option to give citizens a tax cut.
Taxes don't budge.
Why wont you cut my taxes, NS?!
Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova
Maybe it said taxis and not taxes? :P
Nuremgard, Lex Caledonia, Mercunova
ok, just wanted to make sure, hopefully this ´´little´´ event will be fun until its end.
Mareskov? Sorry but can i ask? Where are you from? I always believed that you were American.
random fact: In my language its ´´Moskva´´
Russkov Soviet
Theyre simply asking for more than what we can afford right now.
Lucky for the PM he is sexy.
Apologies. I'm from the USofA. I generally stick to character on here, hence my NS nation being 'my nation'.
Spanelsko
this explains a lot, np sometimes happens to me too.
Russkov Soviet
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