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Friedensreich wrote:Still, no thanks from me. I do not see a benefit to it other than some self-righteous feelies.

No! Stop using chemical weapons! We encourage you to stop without using an embargo that hurts the innocent people and instead try to coerce the government to stop using war crimes or breaking the UDHR =/= self righteous feelies

Give me a break man.

Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:I don't see the issue. It's like real nations being subject to the International Criminal Court. Acts a layer of realism to NS. PLus, the panel of judges/nations are supposed to be impartial arbiters in disputes between nations. You wont be subject to any court ruling unless you are personally part of the case and thus affected by it. Just don't piss off other countries. :P

I don't care about the impartiality of the judges or laws, I simply want nothing to do with it. You're proposing that I restrict my behavior and expect nothing in return?

Friedensreich wrote:I don't care about the impartiality of the judges or laws, I simply want nothing to do with it. You're proposing that I restrict my behavior and expect nothing in return?

I'm not saying anything, mate. Do what you like. Nobody's gonna' force you to behave in a certain way.

Penguania And Antarctica

Yukona wrote:***RP***

Hello everyone!

I just have a little announcement to make. Me and Penguania And Antarctica have a great announcement which would be great if you all read. As most of you don't know, Yukona left the ITF shortly before it collapsed yesterday in order to become fully neutral, I also decided that we needed some sort of international regulating body in order to stop the bad things that have been happening from happening?

The international criminal court will be held in Vancouver, Yukona (TBA) and the international criminal court will be held in Icemounton, Penguania and Antarctica. There is a difference, Peng's court will handle the diplomacy-ish side of things, for example if a country has a bit of your land you think is yours, you can take that country to the justice court. This is for international disputes and everything that isn't a direct crime, so for example putting weapons in space/at a border, etc. etc. will all be under the justice court. The criminal court will handle people accused of breaking the universal declaration of human rights (we'll steal the UN one) or committing war crimes. They this would work is an international warrant would be put on your government members' heads, and they would receive a travel ban and a freeze on assets/more if we can think of it. The point is, embargoes hurt the people of the country and the country that is giving it out, therefore it is not in the best interest to enact trade restrictions as a punishment. If any government member that was wanted were to leave the country, they'd be requested by the court to be arrested and extradited by the country they're in and go to trial in Yukona.

Essentially, this is trying to stop people being morons and is purely in character. There are a few things to highlight, though: we won't come after you, this court doesn't have bounty hunters, etc. This is a purely voluntary movement, if a criminal in - say - Latrovia visits Kalaron and Kalaron don't want to extradite them, that's their call. Furthermore, when I say me and Peng head the organisation, it's only where the court is controlled from and located in its self (i.e the infrastructure and buildings, etc). We haven't figured it out yet, but somehow nations will be sat on the jury, act as judges, etc. - so everyone will be involved.

Currently we have Unfallious, Tserra, Baxten, Kumania, Yukona, Penguania and Latrovia ready to be a part of this idea - the point is, join or not, you will still be under the jurisdiction of the court. To explain this, if you commit a war crime, you will still have your foreign assets frozen and a travel ban placed on you - regardless of whether you're in the court or not as its outside of your control. However disputing the charge can only be done by willing members, therefore it's in your best interest to try and make your voice heard.

Sorry if that was a bit muddled and senseless, but hopefully you get the gist. We're not going to be writing out huge law codexes, we'll just be following the UDHR and other things like the rules of war, it's meant to be a bit of a laymans court, we're no experts.

Um. I never answered you when you asked me if i wanted to be a part. Just saying.

With courts and international bodies, were making out world super restrictive. Everyone will be too afriad to do anything cool.

Unless everyone is content with not RPing or just RPing normal everyday life for the rest of time.

Magnatronia

Tserra wrote:Um. I never answered you when you asked me if i wanted to be a part. Just saying.

I did think I added someone/missed someone, sorry

Penguania And Antarctica

Minnesota Dakota wrote:I had to walk over a mile to school today. In the rain. :(

Sorry to hear that, mate. :(

Jaslandia, Minnesota Dakota

Yukona wrote:No! Stop using chemical weapons! We encourage you to stop without using an embargo that hurts the innocent people and instead try to coerce the government to stop using war crimes or breaking the UDHR =/= self righteous feelies

Give me a break man.

"I'll pass this law mandating the humane treatment of POWs and will pass sanctions and create tensions with anyone that doesn't follow this law because I'm right and they're wrong" = self-righteous

The Vidnoye wrote:With courts and international bodies, were making out world super restrictive. Everyone will be too afriad to do anything cool.

Unless everyone is content with not RPing or just RPing normal everyday life for the rest of time.

My lord people just don't get it do they.

This makes absolutely no difference, you would usually be slapped with embargoes which would hurt your people more than your government

Nuremgard wrote:I'm not saying anything, mate. Do what you like. Nobody's gonna' force you to behave in a certain way.

Until they pass a law that restricts foreign policy, or the treatment of foreign nationals within my borders.

Yukona wrote:/snip

Kalaron wrote:I mean, it's the same as...you know...getting embargoed by people?

It's basically a group you aren't forced to join, but the decisions of the group are binding to those within.

Ergo: If you are found guilty of war crimes, those nations who are a part of it will then freeze your assets and ban your citizens.

Again, same as an embargo between nations, ITF did it.

Andromitus heads its support of the idea, and approves of its use of international authority

Friedensreich wrote:Still, no thanks from me. I do not see a benefit to it other than some self-righteous feelies.

This is more of a restraint and set of rules on us; it is basically just a way of ensuring members have international support at embargoing people, and other members can be informed and follow suit

Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Friedensreich wrote:Until they pass a law that restricts foreign policy, or the treatment of foreign nationals within my borders.

It's only a game. Treat the dirty foreigners however you like.

Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Yukona wrote:I did think I added someone/missed someone, sorry

Do not get me wrong, I will totally be a part. However Tserra may or may not agree with all definitions of "war crime". Tserra endeavors not to be cruel, but it does have a culture that is essentially built around war, for the most part.

Jaslandia, Yukona

Friedensreich wrote:Until they pass a law that restricts foreign policy, or the treatment of foreign nationals within my borders.

>didn't even ask if we're going to do that, immediately assumes it and just continues to slate it

If you break the UDHR, if you commit war crimes - you get your foreign assets frozen and travel ban from WILLING countries.

Tserra wrote:Do not get me wrong, I will totally be a part. However Tserra may or may not agree with all definitions of "war crime". Tserra endeavors not to be cruel, but it does have a culture that is essentially built around war, for the most part.

Barbarians.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Friedensreich wrote:Until they pass a law that restricts foreign policy, or the treatment of foreign nationals within my borders.

You have no reason to follow the laws set by the judiciary dude...its an IC concept that they're building IC, so you don't have to do anything, just ignore it. But realise that if you do, Members of it will react accordingly.

Yukona

Nuremgard wrote:Barbarians.

^^^^^

Primitive Eviant Savages

Penguania And Antarctica

Yukona wrote:>didn't even ask if we're going to do that, immediately assumes it and just continues to slate it

If you break the UDHR, if you commit war crimes - you get your foreign assets frozen and travel ban from WILLING countries.

Show me a link to this UDHR.

>Just an example?

That's basically saying that I'll have to follow your laws in order to not lose money. I don't like that.

Nuremgard wrote:Barbarians.

Barbaroi.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Andromitus wrote:You have no reason to follow the laws set by the judiciary dude...its an IC concept that they're building IC, so you don't have to do anything, just ignore it. But realise that if you do, Members of it will react accordingly.

Yeah, and the point is - if the court wasn't there people would just embargo you and possibly invade you! Well that just hurts innocents and your wider economy even more!

Friedensreich wrote:Show me a link to this UDHR.

>Just an example?

That's basically saying that I'll have to follow your laws in order to not lose money. I don't like that.

Look up the universal declaration of human rights

Andromitus wrote:You have no reason to follow the laws set by the judiciary dude...its an IC concept that they're building IC, so you don't have to do anything, just ignore it. But realise that if you do, Members of it will react accordingly.

Sorry for three posts in a row but I do have to remind that the court is totally impartial, it's literally just human rights and just war crimes. And its a band of other nations working together with this organization...so, its not like where an OOC authority keeping you from attacking or declaring war or being yourself...And dude, You can bet your asss that if it starts to extend its authority beyond just Human rights and War Crimes, Andromitus will push it down HARD

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Minnesota Dakota wrote:I had to walk over a mile to school today. In the rain. :(

And it's going to be like that this whole week :( :( :(

Jaslandia, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, Yukona, Magnatronia

Andromitus wrote:Sorry for three posts in a row but I do have to remind that the court is totally impartial, it's literally just human rights and just war crimes. And its a band of other nations working together with this organization...so, its not like where an OOC authority keeping you from attacking or declaring war or being yourself...And dude, You can bet your asss that if it starts to extend its authority beyond just Human rights and War Crimes, Andromitus will push it down HARD

Somebody has some s e n s e, Jesus Christ, thank you Andy

Friedensreich wrote:Show me a link to this UDHR.

>Just an example?

That's basically saying that I'll have to follow your laws in order to not lose money. I don't like that.

OK.

So what happens when you get embargoed for war-crimes by seperate nations?

Yukona

Tserra wrote:Barbaroi.

Bok choy

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Magnatronia

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Bok choy

Mmm delicious.

Magnatronia

Friedensreich wrote:How many politicians do you know that actually fulfill their campaign promises?

It's one thing to not fulfill their promises. It's another to make the country autocratic after being voted in.

It's your call if you want to support oppressors. I thought the communist were about equality and an end to suffering, but I must be mistaken.

The Vidnoye wrote:ooc:

honestly i want to invade sulania, not on the republican or socialist sides but i want to take Lower Austria, Burgenland and Vienna. *sigh*

I won't be supporting this this time. I've learned not to cross my allies.

Jaslandia, Yukona

Nuremgard wrote:Barbarians.

Tserra wrote:Barbaroi.

Barbados :P

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Barbados :P

Barnes and Noble

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Tserra wrote:Barnes and Noble

Bobby Orr

Penguania And Antarctica

Merlinton wrote:And it's going to be like that this whole week :( :( :(

I almost forgot you live near me.

Merlinton, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Bobby Orr

Bob Ross

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, Magnatronia

Kalaron wrote:It's Lat who is in charge of the Forums, though the President has power there too.

The President is no doubt being taken up by highschool, since in the US we're in the middle of finals and he likely didn't see.

Do you literally only have two people with admin powers in the forums?

This is going to sound kinda presumptuous, but in the ESU I was forum admin for over a year. I've gotten pretty good at navigating the Zetaboards dashboard and settings, and I'm decent with HTML and the Zetaboards template medium. I know I don't hold any government position here but the forums are seriously blah right now (Lat copied them from a dysfunctional section of the ESU forums) and it seems like the admin is really bogged down right now. If you need any assistance with basic forum operations, I'd like to help out.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Andromitus, Magnatronia

Merlinton wrote:Do you literally only have two people with admin powers in the forums?

This is going to sound kinda presumptuous, but in the ESU I was forum admin for over a year. I've gotten pretty good at navigating the Zetaboards dashboard and settings, and I'm decent with HTML and the Zetaboards template medium. I know I don't hold any government position here but the forums are seriously blah right now (Lat copied them from a dysfunctional section of the ESU forums) and it seems like the admin is really bogged down right now. If you need any assistance with basic forum operations, I'd like to help out.

Look I will be totally honest with you. I would care to wager most of us have no clue at all regarding those forums. I could not even tell you who has admin power on them. We had forums before the ones we have now, not sure what happened to them, or why we stopped using them, all I know is Lat had the one we are using now, and was like, "Bruh, use these forums bruh." So we did. Or something.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Yukona

Tserra wrote:Look I will be totally honest with you. I would care to wager most of us have no clue at all regarding those forums. I could not even tell you who has admin power on them. We had forums before the ones we have now, not sure what happened to them, or why we stopped using them, all I know is Lat had the one we are using now, and was like, "Bruh, use these forums bruh." So we did. Or something.

Okay but people actually use the forums, right?

Lavan Tiri

Merlinton wrote:Okay but people actually use the forums, right?

I dunno.

I get on there occasionally. Very rarely though.

Lavan Tiri, Yukona

Tserra wrote:I dunno.

I get on there occasionally. Very rarely though.

Isn't that like the main center of RP though?

Lavan Tiri

Merlinton wrote:Isn't that like the main center of RP though?

No. Also yes.

The General Rp has been moved to the RP region. Unless you want a forum thread for your own specialized RP thing. Like Sul chose to do his civil war on the forums. I may just post about mine in General, and use lots of spoilers.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri

Merlinton wrote:Do you literally only have two people with admin powers in the forums?

This is going to sound kinda presumptuous, but in the ESU I was forum admin for over a year. I've gotten pretty good at navigating the Zetaboards dashboard and settings, and I'm decent with HTML and the Zetaboards template medium. I know I don't hold any government position here but the forums are seriously blah right now (Lat copied them from a dysfunctional section of the ESU forums) and it seems like the admin is really bogged down right now. If you need any assistance with basic forum operations, I'd like to help out.

There is also the speaker, Yukona.

Lavan Tiri

Kalaron wrote:There is also the speaker, Yukona.

Okay. Honestly the thing that's really frustrating for me is that the CoFN forums are a duplicate of the ESU forums and they really aren't molded to meet the needs of CoFN (because we adapted them to the culture and purposes of the ESU and forums aren't a one-size-fits-all kinda thing).

Tserra wrote:No. Also yes.

The General Rp has been moved to the RP region. Unless you want a forum thread for your own specialized RP thing. Like Sul chose to do his civil war on the forums. I may just post about mine in General, and use lots of spoilers.

Interesting. How do you keep RPs separate in the region, or is there no distinction?

Lavan Tiri, Magnatronia

Merlinton wrote:Okay. Honestly the thing that's really frustrating for me is that the CoFN forums are a duplicate of the ESU forums and they really aren't molded to meet the needs of CoFN (because we adapted them to the culture and purposes of the ESU and forums aren't a one-size-fits-all kinda thing).

Interesting. How do you keep RPs separate in the region, or is there no distinction?

As far as I understand, there is not real distinction. However if you wanted to make for example an RP thread on the forums about zombies, and robots fighting against the evil unicorn alliance, you totally could. But it would not be canon in regards to the rest of the region.

[spoiler=Today is May 16 and today are:]

Today is May 16 and today are:

- General Prayer Day (Greenland)

- Honor Our LGBT Elders Day

- International Pickle Day

- Martyrs of Sudan (Episcopal Church in USA)

- Mass Graves Day (Iraq)

- National BiographerÂ’s Day (United States)

- National Coquilles Saint Jacques Day (United States)

- National Day (South Sudan)

- National Love a Tree Day (United States)

- National Piercing Day (United States)

- National Sea Monkey Day (United States)

- Nickel Day

- Teachers' Day (Malaysia)

- Wear Purple for Peace Day

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 218 – Julia Maesa, aunt of the assassinated Caracalla, is banished to her home in Syria by self-proclaimed emperor Macrinus; she declares her 14-year-old grandson Elagabalus to be emperor of Rome; Macrinus is later deposed.

- 1204 – Baldwin IX, Count of Flanders is crowned as the first Emperor of the Latin Empire.

- 1527 – The Florentines drive out the Medici for a second time and Florence re-establishes itself as a republic.

- 1532 – Sir Thomas More resigns as Lord Chancellor of England.

- 1568 – Mary, Queen of Scots, flees to England.

- 1584 – Santiago de Vera becomes sixth Governor-General of the Spanish colony of the Philippines.

- 1770 – A 14-year-old Marie Antoinette marries 15-year-old Louis-Auguste who later becomes king of France.

- 1771 – The Battle of Alamance, a pre-American Revolutionary War battle between local militia and a group of rebels called The "Regulators", occurs in present-day Alamance County, North Carolina.

- 1811 – Peninsular War: The allies Spain, Portugal and United Kingdom, defeat the French at the Battle of Albuera.

- 1812 – Russian Field Marshal Mikhail Kutuzov signs the Treaty of Bucharest, ending the Russo-Turkish War. Bessarabia is annexed by Imperial Russia.

- 1822 – Greek War of Independence: The Turks capture the Greek town of Souli.

- 1834 – The Battle of Asseiceira is fought, the last and decisive engagement of the Liberal Wars in Portugal.

- 1843 – The first major wagon train heading for the Pacific Northwest sets out on the Oregon Trail with one thousand pioneers from Elm Grove, Missouri.

- 1866 – The U.S. Congress eliminates the half dime coin and replaces it with the five cent piece, or nickel.

- 1868 – United States President Andrew Johnson is acquitted in his impeachment trial by one vote in the United States Senate.

- 1874 – A flood on the Mill River in Massachusetts destroys much of four villages and kills 139 people.

- 1888 – Nikola Tesla delivers a lecture describing the equipment which will allow efficient generation and use of alternating currents to transmit electric power over long distances.

- 1891 – The International Electrotechnical Exhibition opens in Frankfurt, Germany, and will feature the world's first long distance transmission of high-power, three-phase electric current (the most common form today).

- 1914 – The first ever National Challenge Cup final is played. Brooklyn Field Club defeats Brooklyn Celtic 2–1.

- 1916 – The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland and the French Third Republic sign the secret wartime Sykes-Picot Agreement partitioning former Ottoman territories such as Iraq and Syria.

- 1918 – The Sedition Act of 1918 is passed by the U.S. Congress, making criticism of the government during wartime an imprisonable offense. It will be repealed less than two years later.

- 1919 – A naval Curtiss NC-4 aircraft commanded by Albert Cushing Read leaves Trepassey, Newfoundland, for Lisbon via the Azores on the first transatlantic flight.

- 1920 – In Rome, Pope Benedict XV canonizes Joan of Arc.

- 1929 – In Hollywood, the first Academy Awards ceremony takes place.

- 1943 – The Holocaust: The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising ends.

- 1951 – The first regularly scheduled transatlantic flights begin between Idlewild Airport (now John F Kennedy International Airport) in New York City and Heathrow Airport in London, operated by El Al Israel Airlines.

- 1959 – The Triton Fountain is inaugurated in Valletta, Malta.

- 1960 – Theodore Maiman operates the first optical laser (a ruby laser), at Hughes Research Laboratories in Malibu, California.

- 1961 – Park Chung-hee leads a coup d'état to overthrow the Second Republic of South Korea.

- 1966 – The Communist Party of China issues the "May 16 Notice", marking the beginning of the Cultural Revolution.

- 1969 – Venera program: Venera 5, a Soviet space probe, lands on Venus.

- 1974 – Josip Broz Tito is elected president for life of Yugoslavia.

- 1983 – Sudan People's Liberation Army/Movement rebels against the Sudanese government.

- 1988 – A report by the Surgeon General of the United States C. Everett Koop states that the addictive properties of nicotine are similar to those of heroin and cocaine.

- 1991 – Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom addresses a joint session of the United States Congress. She is the first British monarch to address the U.S. Congress.

- 1997 – Mobutu Sese Seko, the President of Zaire, flees the country.

- 2003 – In Morocco, 33 civilians are killed and more than 100 people are injured in the Casablanca terrorist attacks.

- 2005 – Kuwait permits women's suffrage in a 35–23 National Assembly vote.

- 2011 – STS-134 (ISS assembly flight ULF6), launched from the Kennedy Space Center on the 25th and final flight for Space Shuttle Endeavour.

- 2014 – Twelve people are killed in two explosions in the Gikomba market area of Nairobi, Kenya.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1718 – Maria Gaetana Agnesi, Italian mathematician and philosopher

- 1788 – Friedrich Rückert, German poet and translator

- 1831 – David Edward Hughes, Welsh-American physicist, co-invented the microphone

- 1891 – Richard Tauber, Austrian tenor

- 1905 – Henry Fonda, American actor

- 1919 – Liberace, American pianist and entertainer

- 1936 – Karl Lehmann, German cardinal

- 1950 – Georg Bednorz, German physicist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1953 – Pierce Brosnan, Irish-American actor and producer

- 1966 – Janet Jackson, American singer-songwriter, producer, dancer, and actress

- 1970 – Gabriela Sabatini, Argentinian tennis player

- 1974 – Laura Pausini, Italian singer-songwriter and producer

- 1986 – Megan Fox, American actress

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Quote of the day

A good decision is based on knowledge and not on numbers.

- Plato -

Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.

Jaslandia, Continental Commonwealths, Andromitus, The United Providences Of Perland, Percyton

Magnatronia wrote:Hey, if you side with me, we could recruit our pals Aghrabia and TCADS. We split the spoils. Simple as that.

I'm already in it buddy.

Magnatronia

News bulletin from Perland

[nation=short]The United Providences of Perland[/nation] has been admitted to HOPE and formally declares neutrality in all present and future conflicts.

Jaslandia, Continental Commonwealths, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Merlinton wrote:Okay. Honestly the thing that's really frustrating for me is that the CoFN forums are a duplicate of the ESU forums and they really aren't molded to meet the needs of CoFN (because we adapted them to the culture and purposes of the ESU and forums aren't a one-size-fits-all kinda thing).

Interesting. How do you keep RPs separate in the region, or is there no distinction?

Now you feel me! Totally pointless to have two different places to post RPs. There is literally nothing you can do in the rp region that you can't already do in the forums.

Merlinton

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:I'm already in it buddy.

Gonna wait till Aghrabia's online till I talk to you and Vid about it

Magnatronia wrote:Gonna wait till Aghrabia's online till I talk to you and Vid about it

Ok

The United Providences Of Perland

Magnatronia wrote:Now you feel me! Totally pointless to have two different places to post RPs. There is literally nothing you can do in the rp region that you can't already do in the forums.

I don't understand why there's an RP region? What's the benefit of that versus the forums?

Magnatronia

The Organization for Humanity, Optimism, Peace, and Empathy welcomes its newest signatory, [nation=short]The United Providences of Perland[/nation]! Welcome aboard, Per!

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Yukona, Percyton

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:News bulletin from Perland

[nation=short]The United Providences of Perland[/nation] has been admitted to HOPE and formally declares neutrality in all present and future conflicts.

Continental Commonwealths wrote:The Organization for Humanity, Optimism, Peace, and Empathy welcomes its newest signatory, [nation=short]The United Providences of Perland[/nation]! Welcome aboard, Per!

Awesome :) *toot toot*

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Continental Commonwealths, Minnesota Dakota, The United Providences Of Perland, Percyton

Merlinton wrote:I don't understand why there's an RP region? What's the benefit of that versus the forums?

If anything, the rp region is MORE restrictive because it censors curse words, and it's frustrating because if you have a character who curses a lot, then you'll end up spending an hour on a post, submit it, then have it deleted

Merlinton

Magnatronia wrote:If anything, the rp region is MORE restrictive because it censors curse words, and it's frustrating because if you have a character who curses a lot, then you'll end up spending an hour on a post, submit it, then have it deleted

Gosh Mag, I wonder if that's ever been a problem for you? :P

Also tho you can't post images and external links directly, and the code options and stylistic elements are much more limited. Forums are obviously superior.

Jaslandia, Kivasek, The United Providences Of Perland, Magnatronia

Merlinton wrote:I don't understand why there's an RP region? What's the benefit of that versus the forums?

I think it makes formatting more cleaner.

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Awesome :) *toot toot*

*Toot*

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Merlinton wrote:Gosh Mag, I wonder if that's ever been a problem for you? :P

Also tho you can't post images and external links directly, and the code options and stylistic elements are much more limited. Forums are obviously superior.

U kno it

Again and again with the forums thing. Theres no need for anyone to accept any application because its set with an email verification. Once you open your emails you can verify your accounts. It worked for everyone till today.

Second of all I would ask all the easily heated people to control their hormones. I know we're going into summer soon and you cant control yourselves, but being nice and cooperative hurts nobody.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, Magnatronia

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:I think it makes formatting more cleaner.

I'm sorry but I don't understand how. Is it because the forums are currently a mess of different links and folders? Because that could easily be cleaned up and simplified.

Jaslandia, The United Providences Of Perland

Latrovia wrote:Again and again with the forums thing. Theres no need for anyone to accept any application because its set with an email verification. Once you open your emails you can verify your accounts. It worked for everyone till today.

Second of all I would ask all the easily heated people to control their hormones. I know we're going into summer soon and you cant control yourselves, but being nice and cooperative hurts nobody.

It's actually the opposite, I'm frustrated because I see room for improvement and I'd like to cooperate with you to increase the efficiency of the forums!

Jaslandia, Kivasek, Magnatronia, Percyton

Yukona wrote:***RP***

Hello everyone!

-Snip-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lITBGjNEp08

Russian Fedration wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lITBGjNEp08

I thought we already went over this?

Yukona wrote:I thought we already went over this?

DK what your talking about .

im just showing my Disgust for these courts .

Russian Fedration wrote:DK what your talking about .

im just showing my Disgust for these courts .

Suit yourself?

Merlinton, Jaslandia

Russian Fedration wrote:DK what your talking about .

im just showing my Disgust for these courts .

Doesn't matter what you think buddy; there an IC construction between IC nations, you couldn't have less power over their existance and they couldn't have less power over you -_-

Jaslandia, Yukona

Andromitus wrote:Doesn't matter what you think buddy; there an IC construction between IC nations, you couldn't have less power over their existance and they couldn't have less power over you -_-

Fun.

Jihad Time .

Tbh, IC, I just wanna destroy whoever supports that court. It just makes it so all the goody-two-shoes nations can levy embargoes on their least favorite nations and feel good about themselves while they're at it. Kinda obnoxious tbh

Russian Fedration, The Vidnoye, Friedensreich

Russian Fedration wrote:Fun.

Jihad Time .

Top Kek

Magnatronia wrote:Tbh, IC, I just wanna destroy whoever supports that court. It just makes it so all the goody-two-shoes nations can levy embargoes on their least favorite nations and feel good about themselves while they're at it. Kinda obnoxious tbh

Top Kek

Magnatronia

Tserra wrote:Top Kek

btw, what does that mean tbh?

Magnatronia wrote:btw, what does that mean tbh?

Top Kek

Magnatronia

Yukona wrote:Top Kek

Top kek

Magnatronia wrote:btw, what does that mean tbh?

Oh. Kek means lol. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=kek

So Top Kek is Top Kek.

Magnatronia wrote:Tbh, IC, I just wanna destroy whoever supports that court. It just makes it so all the goody-two-shoes nations can levy embargoes on their least favorite nations and feel good about themselves while they're at it. Kinda obnoxious tbh

I just spent the entire past hour talking about how we don't put embargoes on nations and only punish if they do a crime please don't tell me you're that dense

Yukona wrote:please don't tell me you're that dense

I mean, hey, choking is always an option. Maybe even on rocks, if you're in the mood?

Merlinton, Russian Fedration

Magnatronia wrote:I mean, hey, choking is always an option. Maybe even on rocks, if you're in the mood?

I want to die

Yukona wrote:I just spent the entire past hour talking about how we don't put embargoes on nations and only punish if they do a crime please don't tell me you're that dense

Your Shoving your will on everyone.

Dose that seem fair ?

Yukona wrote:I just spent the entire past hour talking about how we don't put embargoes on nations and only punish if they do a crime please don't tell me you're that dense

btw, I said *IC*.

IC! ARE YOU THAT DENSE?[/B][/I]

Merlinton, Russian Fedration

Russian Fedration wrote:Your Shoving your will on everyone.

Dose that seem fair ?

No one is forcing anything on anyone.

You are forcing your will on everyone else. You do not want something so you complain about it, and talk about how unfair it is. Does that seem fair?

The United Providences Of Perland

Russian Fedration wrote:Your Shoving your will on everyone.

Dose that seem fair ?

Can you please put me down or read what I said

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Sorry for the non-RP related interlude. I don't see it addressed in the latest constitution revision, so I'll bring it up here.

[nation=short]Unfallious[/nation], why is the Constabulary being removed from the juridiction of the Minister of Justice in your constitutional proposal? The way I see it, this created several issues:

1. There would be an imbalance of duties between the ministerial positions, making the Minister of Justice an on-call position. The Minister of Internal Affairs would deal with citizenry on a regular basis (they're arguably the Cabinet position with the highest demand), the Minister of Foreign Affairs would manage embassies and the ambassador staff, but the Minister of Justice would only be necessary if a) the Cabinet requests legal advice and/or b) judicial sentences are needed to be enforced. In essence, we would have an elected official that would go widely unused. However, giving this person jurisdiction over the management of the Constabulary would address this underutilization. This imbalance is obvious just by looking at the descriptions of the different ministerial positions as provided in the proposed constitution.

2. There is a disconnect in duty. The Minister of Justice is given jurisdiction for carrying out judicial sentences, but does not have jurisdiction over the Constabulary who would and should be qualified to offer support in this manner. You're essentially stating that the Minister of Justice should be a legally-acquainted elected individual and then underutilizing them in legal matters and duties.

3. There is a disconnect in logic. The Minister of Justice is supposed to be Cabinet's legal advisor and the region's legal enforcer, but this person is not involved with those trusted with upholding the legal peace by investigating alleged crimes and bringing them to the judiciary's attention. The Constabulary and the Minister of Justice need to have a good working relationship as they respectively embody the pre- and post-sentence stages of the judicial process. I fail to see how an unelected person appointed by the President fits as well into this function as the directly elected Minister of Justice. Especially when we consider, once again, how underutilized this elected position will be if this proposal becomes our new constitution.

I dunno why you didn't post this in the thread too, I only have limited time to do revisions and if you just post this here you'll get a lot of exposure but you're also gonna get buried.

you see when we mix our IC and our OOC in one place we're bound to get situations where people get really annoyed because they think something is being imposed on everyone when in reality it's just some insignificant nation's little pet project

i'm not talking about you of course yuk you're my most favourite degenerate capitalist

Jaslandia, The United Providences Of Perland

Unfallious wrote:you see when we mix our IC and our OOC in one place we're bound to get situations where people get really annoyed because they think something is being imposed on everyone when in reality it's just some insignificant nation's little pet project

i'm not talking about you of course yuk you're my most favourite degenerate capitalist

I

Want to

Die

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

Yukona wrote:I

Want to

Die

Same.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Unfallious wrote:I dunno why you didn't post this in the thread too, I only have limited time to do revisions and if you just post this here you'll get a lot of exposure but you're also gonna get buried.

It's the long version of what was already included in my original feedback post on the forums, but voilĂ - long version is there now, too.

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:Same.

Sorry accidentally suppressed

Penguania And Antarctica

Yukona wrote:Sorry accidentally suppressed

He's lying. The suppression was totally on purpose. He wants a regional monopoly on death.

Merlinton, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Continental Commonwealths wrote:It's the long version of what was already included in my original feedback post on the forums, but voilĂ - long version is there now, too.

I remember that, actually. I must have missed it when I was doing revisions. Like I said, if you stick that on the forums I'll take a look when I next to revisions this weekend.

Likewise, I'm really looking for help with this lawcode guys, if you guys are really wanting it for it then you can give me an idea what you want it to do.

Jaslandia, Continental Commonwealths

Continental Commonwealths wrote:He's lying. The suppression was totally on purpose. He wants a regional monopoly on death.

ALL AROUND ME ARE FAMILIAR FACES

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Pirate Kingdoms

Unfallious wrote:I remember that, actually. I must have missed it when I was doing revisions. Like I said, if you stick that on the forums I'll take a look when I next to revisions this weekend.

Likewise, I'm really looking for help with this lawcode guys, if you guys are really wanting it for it then you can give me an idea what you want it to do.

I didn't understand that request- perhaps a discussion about it took place on Discord?

A law code and a constitution are two different things. Are we talking about a code of criminal and civil obstructions? Because that should really be separate from the constitution and I think it can be considered by the legislative house after the constitution is place? Or are we talking about reforming our current collection of legislation so that it conforms with the new constitution? Because I feel that can also take place through the legislative house after the passage of the constitution.

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I didn't understand that request- perhaps a discussion about it took place on Discord?

A law code and a constitution are two different things. Are we talking about a code of criminal and civil obstructions? Because that should really be separate from the constitution and I think it can be considered by the legislative house after the constitution is place? Or are we talking about reforming our current collection of legislation so that it conforms with the new constitution? Because I feel that can also take place through the legislative house after the passage of the constitution.

Jas posted he had issue with Article 9, Section 3 and Tserra suggested incorporating a 'basic lawcode' into the constitution. I'm unsure myself, really.

Jaslandia

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I didn't understand that request- perhaps a discussion about it took place on Discord?

A law code and a constitution are two different things. Are we talking about a code of criminal and civil obstructions? Because that should really be separate from the constitution and I think it can be considered by the legislative house after the constitution is place? Or are we talking about reforming our current collection of legislation so that it conforms with the new constitution? Because I feel that can also take place through the legislative house after the passage of the constitution.

The idea was for a basic lawcode to be implemented into the new constitution. So regardless of whether or not we pass any criminal laws after the new constitution we have a general law guide. Such as, and for example, it would be illegal via CFN law to discriminate against someone due to sexual preference. Such as in the even such a thing happened, the MoJ, and the Constabulary would actually be able to do something, instead of sitting around like. "Well, no one has passed a law code. Guess they can do what they want."

Jaslandia

Russian Fedration wrote:DK what your talking about .

im just showing my Disgust for these courts .

I mean, that's fine.

The impact you have on that court is equivalent to the impact Spain has on the US judicial system's decisions with regards to the treatment of inner city teens; none, that is, none whatsoever.

Unfallious wrote:you see when we mix our IC and our OOC in one place we're bound to get situations where people get really annoyed because they think something is being imposed on everyone when in reality it's just some insignificant nation's little pet project

i'm not talking about you of course yuk you're my most favourite degenerate capitalist

They can think anything they want, they've had it explained five or seven times that it's entirely IC and is equivalent to an embargo.

They have no more ability to demand the court not rule on them for war crimes than to demand that other nations drop embargos even though the nation that got embargoed did a war crime.

Russian Fedration wrote:Fun.

Jihad Time .

Honestly, Jihads are so damn stupid from an RP standpoint.

I'll be honest, I highly doubt that you would actually RP the internal struggles of a Jihad to remain focused on the enemy, and I'm almost certain that, if the other person were winning and attempted to gain the hearts and minds of the region, you'd just keep throwing bodies at them until they said "Gee golly gosh this is pointless" and just stopped. This is a shockingly good reason why we have to agree to RP war.

Jaslandia, Yukona

Tserra wrote:The idea was for a basic lawcode to be implemented into the new constitution. So regardless of whether or not we pass any criminal laws after the new constitution we have a general law guide. Such as, and for example, it would be illegal via CFN law to discriminate against someone due to sexual preference. Such as in the even such a thing happened, the MoJ, and the Constabulary would actually be able to do something, instead of sitting around like. "Well, no one has passed a law code. Guess they can do what they want."

This sounds like a combination of a bill of rights and a criminal code. I think protection against discrimination and the such can be incorporated into Article I, but a criminal code passed as statute legislation will need to follow the passage of the constitution. This would detail the names of crimes, how they are characterized, and what their punishmnets could be. We could have one waiting in the wings to be brought before the legislature the moment the constitution passes, but a criminal code should definitely be statute and not constitutional law.

Jaslandia

Hokay, so, I just want to hear everyones thoughts on this:

In terms of lore, I was wondering how you all thought on my nation manufacturing synthetic lab grown meat as a sustainable food source instead of natural meat -

We already have the tech to do this in labs IRL, however, the technology is small scale and primitive; But we're technically in the year 2020 so I thought it could be acceptable for a technocracy like myself; Considering the focus on technology that Andromitus has, and for realism, it wouldn't have any other benefits over natural meat aside from cost, taste and texture, no deaths involved, and nutrition as its created in a controlled environment. It wouldn't make us independent from other nations, because even if the US started state funding the development and mass production of synthetic meat IRL, and had all the infrastructure all in place as we do (theoretically if its allowed), and had a population that really wanted it, by 2020 it could replace meat as a general public utility, however it wouldn't make the US food independent from other nations as nothing we build as of this time in 2020 is a perfectly closed system. And if we do go ahead with this, we'd still be dependent on other nations for the means of production because of general loss in supplies. So it doesn't really change anything apart from my exports, because these babies'll taste real good, and how my people react to all you Eviant swine.

Russian Fedration

Andromitus wrote:Hokay, so, I just want to hear everyones thoughts on this:

In terms of lore, I was wondering how you all thought on my nation manufacturing synthetic lab grown meat as a sustainable food source instead of natural meat -

We already have the tech to do this in labs IRL, however, the technology is small scale and primitive; But we're technically in the year 2020 so I thought it could be acceptable for a technocracy like myself; Considering the focus on technology that Andromitus has, and for realism, it wouldn't have any other benefits over natural meat aside from cost, taste and texture, no deaths involved, and nutrition as its created in a controlled environment. It wouldn't make us independent from other nations, because even if the US started state funding the development and mass production of synthetic meat IRL, and had all the infrastructure all in place as we do (theoretically if its allowed), and had a population that really wanted it, by 2020 it could replace meat as a general public utility, however it wouldn't make the US food independent from other nations as nothing we build as of this time in 2020 is a perfectly closed system. And if we do go ahead with this, we'd still be dependent on other nations for the means of production because of general loss in supplies. So it doesn't really change anything apart from my exports, because these babies'll taste real good, and how my people react to all you Eviant swine.

Ok. But can I still import Magnadew from Magnatronia?

Merlinton

Kalaron wrote:I mean, that's fine.

The impact you have on that court is equivalent to the impact Spain has on the US judicial system's decisions with regards to the treatment of inner city teens; none, that is, none whatsoever.

They can think anything they want, they've had it explained five or seven times that it's entirely IC and is equivalent to an embargo.

They have no more ability to demand the court not rule on them for war crimes than to demand that other nations drop embargos even though the nation that got embargoed did a war crime.

Honestly, Jihads are so damn stupid from an RP standpoint.

I'll be honest, I highly doubt that you would actually RP the internal struggles of a Jihad to remain focused on the enemy, and I'm almost certain that, if the other person were winning and attempted to gain the hearts and minds of the region, you'd just keep throwing bodies at them until they said "Gee golly gosh this is pointless" and just stopped. This is a shockingly good reason why we have to agree to RP war.

Ok and ? so?

Tserra wrote:Ok. But can I still import Magnadew from Magnatronia?

~__~ Sure, but know that Magnadew is PEOPLE, ITS PEOPLE...SOYL..erm..MAGNADEW IS PEOPLE!

Andromitus wrote:-snip-

And I take silence as yessssss...hehehehehehe

Jaslandia

Andromitus wrote:~__~ Sure, but know that Magnadew is PEOPLE, ITS PEOPLE...SOYL..erm..MAGNADEW IS PEOPLE!

We do not care where it comes from. Its delicious. Sugary. And delicious.

Tserra wrote:We do not care where it comes from. Its delicious. Sugary. And delicious.

*shudders*

Jaslandia

Russian Fedration wrote:Ok and ? so?

Same goes for what you said ay lmao

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