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Feel like I wanna make a nation that is part of another player's empire.

Russkov Soviet, Penguania And Antarctica, Pirate Kingdoms, Percyton

Nuremgard wrote:Feel like I wanna make a nation that is part of another player's empire.

If we were in the 18-1900's you could've been in mine :3

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Percyton

Andromitus wrote:If we were in the 18-1900's you could've been in mine :3

What kind of nation are you?

Percyton

Nuremgard wrote:What kind of nation are you?

Currently I am an Ædenist State; Essentially its a local direct democracy on street --> Municipality levels paired with an overarching Meritocratic Soviet called the First Sectarian Council. Think of it like the State has almost all of the power however the People have a growing say in how its used.

I transitioned into this from being the G.A.R. —Greater Andreallic Empire— a heavily militaristic, expansionist, imperial power that thrived during the 18-1900's but fell in 1969 to the Colombial Ædenist Revolution.

Onocarcass, Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Percyton

Andromitus wrote:Currently I am an Ædenist State; Essentially its a local direct democracy on street --> Municipality levels paired with an overarching Meritocratic Soviet called the First Sectarian Council. Think of it like the State has almost all of the power however the People have a growing say in how its used.

I transitioned into this from being the G.A.R. —Greater Andreallic Empire— a heavily militaristic, expansionist, imperial power that thrived during the 18-1900's but fell in 1969 to the Colombial Ædenist Revolution.

Hmm. Interesting and different. If I did make a colony type nation, I'd want it to be under the control of some kind of monarchy or imperial republic. Perhaps the colony would religious in nature.

Nuremgard wrote:Hmm. Interesting and different. If I did make a colony type nation, I'd want it to be under the control of some kind of monarchy or imperial republic. Perhaps the colony would religious in nature.

You would have loved the G.A.R. Headed by an Imperator, a by-blood monarch and Lordship with a Meritocratic Absolutist Aristocratic social system and a political system where the Central Imperator would vie for power against the Local Provincial Viceroy in a constant duel of authority. The entire Empire existed due to the evolution of AndroCatholicism, a branch of Catholicism that focuses on the Believers being of "a higher race" which expanded over time to stay that only Andrealls could be believers and only the Royalty could be "of the highest race". We invaded other territories to maintain stability, gain resources, and to make more room for the royalty and pure-blooded Andrealls. Hoo boy we committed so much genocide because the Godless Lesser Races were in our way...

Hell you being a territory would've been fun because you're leader, a Viceroy of the Empire, would have had near total power over his/her province, being able to maintain a state-level economy, personal military force, and would have been able to take part in Imperial politics; basically the E.U. if it was an Empire. You could've subjugated you're natives, created non-imperial deals, enjoyed the benefits of Imperial deals, invaded other territories and not have to worry about being invaded because the other lords and the central Imperial military would defend you while you're away...

Nuremgard, Percyton

Andromitus wrote:You would have loved the G.A.R. Headed by an Imperator, a by-blood monarch and Lordship with a Meritocratic Absolutist Aristocratic social system and a political system where the Central Imperator would vie for power against the Local Provincial Viceroy in a constant duel of authority. The entire Empire existed due to the evolution of AndroCatholicism, a branch of Catholicism that focuses on the Believers being of "a higher race" which expanded over time to stay that only Andrealls could be believers and only the Royalty could be "of the highest race". We invaded other territories to maintain stability, gain resources, and to make more room for the royalty and pure-blooded Andrealls. Hoo boy we committed so much genocide because the Godless Lesser Races were in our way...

Hell you being a territory would've been fun because you're leader, a Viceroy of the Empire, would have had near total power over his/her province, being able to maintain a state-level economy, personal military force, and would have been able to take part in Imperial politics; basically the E.U. if it was an Empire. You could've subjugated you're natives, created non-imperial deals, enjoyed the benefits of Imperial deals, invaded other territories and not have to worry about being invaded because the other lords and the central Imperial military would defend you while you're away...

Nice! So I could be a thuggish dictator, imposing my will on the people of my province for the good of the Empire. Take part in imperial politics in order to further my agenda at the higher levels (and build connections there too) and be able to invade other countries at my leisure to exploit their resources and people.

Sounds like fun!

Percyton

Onocarcass wrote:They have to get Qinjan or Zengshyn to approve of the border as well. 18, of the 19 provinces have to agree, and thus far only 17 recognize Dyota-Metura.

Interesting. So what will it take to convince Qinjan or Zengshyn?

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:Nice! So I could be a thuggish dictator, imposing my will on the people of my province for the good of the Empire. Take part in imperial politics in order to further my agenda at the higher levels (and build connections there too) and be able to invade other countries at my leisure to exploit their resources and people.

Sounds like fun!

Essentially yea, I'm expanding on it more later but we had some fairly unique Viceroy's in power; For example Thraiig von Andrea enslaved and purged her natives and was responcible for the invasions of Mexico and the Carribean while Kroren von Andrea attempted to add the conquered peoples into his province as essentially a second-hand population. Other Viceroy ignored there own, or kicked them out, etc etc. Sure there were some universal laws such as the rights of all Andrealls, the acquisition of royalty, and general laws but regardless..

Nuremgard

Percyton wrote:Interesting. So what will it take to convince Qinjan or Zengshyn?

Nothing can convince Zengshyn, since that would assist the many province movements in Zengshyn, and Qinjan wants to set the border really small.

Percyton

Percyton wrote:Interesting. So what will it take to convince Qinjan or Zengshyn?

http://i.imgur.com/WmXFX5t.png

Red = Province Borders

Purple = Places that want to leave Zengshyn Province.

Percyton

Percy isn't the only engine who can take selfies! I suggest all of you check out MY selfies on the offsite forum.

http://thecoffincofn.boards.net/post/268/thread

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

James The Red Engine wrote:Percy isn't the only engine who can take selfies! I suggest all of you check out MY selfies on the offsite forum.

http://thecoffincofn.boards.net/post/268/thread

This raises so many questions! Do engines have their own phones? If so, do the Driver's just hold on to them and do everything for their engine? How could it be safe to take a selfie while on the job? Why would an engine need a whole album of selfies on their phone (although this is vain James we're talking about, so that answers the last question)?

Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton, James The Red Engine

Jaslandia wrote:This raises so many questions!

1. Do engines have their own phones?

2. If so, do the Driver's just hold on to them and do everything for their engine?

3. How could it be safe to take a selfie while on the job?

4. Why would an engine need a whole album of selfies on their phone (although this is vain James we're talking about, so that answers the last question)?

1. Some do, but most don't. I have my own phone, since my Driver doesn't want to store all my selfies on his phone, and Donald and Douglas each have their own phone, though I'm not sure why. However, most engines don't need their own phone. Percy, for example, doesn't have a phone; all he needs a phone for would be posting on NS and the occasional selfie, and he can do both of those things with his Driver's phone.

2. Basically, yes. What other choice do we have? However, our Drivers usually don't take our phones home with them, and instead they leave it in our sheds with our other valuables.

3. It's not safe, which is why we either take them while we're stopped, or we get the people from the TV series crew to help us out.

4. If acknowledging and taking pride in the fact that I'm the most splendid red engine on the Island of Sodor is 'vain', then consider me as vain as vain and can be. And besides, I'm still lots of fun, right?

https://youtu.be/17dXkECGLbc

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Onocarcass wrote:Nothing can convince Zengshyn, since that would assist the many province movements in Zengshyn, and Qinjan wants to set the border really small.

Oh. I'm sorry to hear that. Maybe Qinjan will be able to compromise eventually?

James The Red Engine wrote:Percy isn't the only engine who can take selfies! I suggest all of you check out MY selfies on the offsite forum.

http://thecoffincofn.boards.net/post/268/thread

They all look great, James!

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Percyton wrote:Oh. I'm sorry to hear that. Maybe Qinjan will be able to compromise eventually?

They all look great, James!

The Federation Armed Forces had to get involved in the case of N'peng gaining its status as a province. The Western provinces suffer many problems due to the borders being drawn by the Karkassi Kingdom with little care for ethnic diversity there.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

James The Red Engine wrote:1. Some do, but most don't. I have my own phone, since my Driver doesn't want to store all my selfies on his phone, and Donald and Douglas each have their own phone, though I'm not sure why.

Donald: What we dae wi' our cell phones is nane of yer business, laddie! Now scamper aff an' go crash intae some tar wagons!

Douglas: Och, that's a guid one, Donnie! I'll hae tae use 'at against this unionist twit aam arguin' wi' online. Did ye catch 'at, Driver?

Douglas' driver: Dinnae fash yersel, Ah got it. Aam typin' it it now.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

So what do you guys think should be the naming theme for this new map I'm working on?

http://i.imgur.com/BSvUc0L.png

Vista Major, Percyton

[spoiler=Today is August 5 and today are:]

Today is August 5 and today are:

- Independence Day (Burkina Faso)

- International Hangover Day

- King Jigme Dorji Wangchuck's Death Anniversary (Bhutan)

- Mead Day

- National Disc Golf Day (United States)

- National Jamaican Patty Day (United States)

- National Mustard Day (United States)

- National Oyster Day (United States)

- National Underwear Day (United States)

- National Work Like A Dog Day (United States)

- Sandcastle Day

- The Day of Our Lady of Africa (Ceuta, Spain)

- Victory and Homeland Thanksgiving Day and the Day of Croatian defenders (Croatia)

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- AD 25 – Guangwu claims the throne as emperor, restoring the Han dynasty after the collapse of the short-lived Xin dynasty.

- 135 – Roman armies enter Betar, brutally slaughtering thousands and effectively ending the bar Kokhba revolt.

- 642 – Battle of Maserfield: Penda of Mercia defeats and kills Oswald of Northumbria.

- 910 – The last major Danish army to raid England is defeated at the Battle of Tettenhall by the allied forces of Mercia and Wessex, led by King Edward the Elder and Æthelred, Lord of the Mercians.

- 939 – The Battle of Alhandic is fought between Ramiro II of León and Abd-ar-Rahman III at Zamora in the context of the Spanish Reconquista. The battle resulted in a victory for the Emirate of Córdoba.

- 1068 – Byzantine–Norman wars: Italo-Normans begin a nearly-three-year siege of Bari.

- 1100 – Henry I is crowned King of England in Westminster Abbey.

- 1278 – The Siege of Algeciras ends in the context of the Spanish Reconquista pitting the forces of the Kingdom of Castile against the Emirate of Granada. The battle resulted in a Granadan victory.

- 1305 – William Wallace, who led the Scottish resistance against England, is captured by the English near Glasgow and transported to London where he is put on trial and executed.

- 1388 – The Battle of Otterburn, a border skirmish between the Scottish and the English in Northern England, is fought near Otterburn.

- 1583 – Sir Humphrey Gilbert establishes the first English colony in North America, at what is now St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador.

- 1600 – The Gowrie Conspiracy against King James VI of Scotland (later to become King James I of England) takes place.

- 1620 – The Mayflower departs from Southampton, England on its first attempt to reach North America.

- 1689 – Beaver Wars: Fifteen hundred Iroquois attack Lachine in New France.

- 1716 – The Battle of Petrovaradin takes place.

- 1735 – Freedom of the press: New York Weekly Journal writer John Peter Zenger is acquitted of seditious libel against the royal governor of New York, on the basis that what he had published was true.

- 1763 – Pontiac's War: Battle of Bushy Run: British forces led by Henry Bouquet defeat Chief Pontiac's Indians at Bushy Run.

- 1772 – The First Partition of Poland begins.

- 1781 – The Battle of Dogger Bank takes place.

- 1796 – The Battle of Castiglione in Napoleon's first Italian campaigns of the French Revolutionary Wars.

- 1816 – The British Admiralty dismisses Francis Ronalds's new invention of the first working electric telegraph as "wholly unnecessary", preferring to continue using the semaphore.

- 1824 – Greek War of Independence: Constantine Kanaris leads a Greek fleet to victory against Ottoman and Egyptian naval forces in the Battle of Samos.

- 1858 – Cyrus West Field and others complete the first transatlantic telegraph cable after several unsuccessful attempts. It will operate for less than a month.

- 1860 – Charles XV of Sweden of Sweden-Norway is crowned king of Norway in Trondheim.

- 1861 – American Civil War: In order to help pay for the war effort, the United States government levies the first income tax as part of the Revenue Act of 1861 (3% of all incomes over US $800; rescinded in 1872).

- 1861 – The United States Army abolishes flogging.

- 1862 – American Civil War: Battle of Baton Rouge: Along the Mississippi River near Baton Rouge, Louisiana, Confederate troops attempt to take the city, but are driven back by fire from Union gunboats.

- 1864 – American Civil War: The Battle of Mobile Bay begins at Mobile Bay near Mobile, Alabama, Admiral David Farragut leads a Union flotilla through Confederate defenses and seals one of the last major Southern ports.

- 1874 – Japan launches its postal savings system, modeled after a similar system in the United Kingdom.

- 1882 – The Standard Oil of New Jersey is established.

- 1884 – The cornerstone for the Statue of Liberty is laid on Bedloe's Island (now Liberty Island) in New York Harbor.

- 1888 – Bertha Benz drives from Mannheim to Pforzheim and back in the first long distance automobile trip, commemorated as the Bertha Benz Memorial Route since 2008.

- 1901 – Peter O'Connor sets the first IAAF recognised long jump world record of 24 ft 11.75 in (7.6137 m). The record will stand for 20 years.

- 1906 – Persian Constitutional Revolution: Mozaffar ad-Din Shah Qajar, King of Iran, agrees to convert the government to a constitutional monarchy.

- 1914 – World War I: The German minelayer SS Königin Luise lays a minefield about 40 miles (64 km) off the Thames Estuary (Lowestoft). She is intercepted and sunk by the British light-cruiser HMS Amphion.

- 1914 – World War I: The guns of Point Nepean fort at Port Phillip Heads in Victoria (Australia) fire across the bows of the Norddeutscher Lloyd steamer SS Pfalz which is attempting to leave the Port of Melbourne in ignorance of the declaration of war and she is detained; this is said to be the first Allied shot of the War.

- 1914 – In Cleveland, Ohio, the first electric traffic light is installed.

- 1916 – World War I: Battle of Romani: Allied forces, under the command of Archibald Murray, defeat an attacking Ottoman army under the command of Friedrich Freiherr Kress von Kressenstein, securing the Suez Canal and beginning the Ottoman retreat from the Sinai Peninsula.

- 1925 – Plaid Cymru is formed with the aim of disseminating knowledge of the Welsh language that is at the time in danger of dying out.

- 1926 – Harry Houdini performs his greatest feat, spending 91 minutes underwater in a sealed tank before escaping.

- 1940 – World War II: The Soviet Union formally annexes Latvia.

- 1941 – World War II: The Battle of Smolensk concludes with Germany capturing about 300,000 Soviet Red Army prisoners.

- 1944 – World War II: At least 1,104 Japanese POWs in Australia attempt to escape from a camp at Cowra, New South Wales; 545 temporarily succeed but are later killed, commit suicide, or are recaptured.

- 1944 – World War II: Polish insurgents liberate a German labor camp (Gęsiówka) in Warsaw, freeing 348 Jewish prisoners.

- 1944 – World War II: The Nazis begin a week-long massacre of between 40,000 and 50,000 civilians and prisoners of war in Wola, Poland.

- 1949 – In Ecuador, an earthquake destroys 50 towns and kills more than 6,000.

- 1957 – American Bandstand, a show dedicated to the teenage "baby-boomers" by playing the songs and showing popular dances of the time, debuts on the ABC television network.

- 1958 – Herbert Hoover eclipses John Adams as having the longest retirement of any former U.S President until that time. Hoover would live another six years; his record of 31 years, seven months and 16 days of retirement has since been eclipsed by Jimmy Carter.

- 1960 – Burkina Faso, then known as Upper Volta, becomes independent from France.

- 1962 – Apartheid in South Africa: Nelson Mandela is jailed. He would not be released until 1990.

- 1963 – The United States, the United Kingdom, and the Soviet Union sign a nuclear test ban treaty.

- 1964 – Vietnam War: Operation Pierce Arrow: American aircraft from carriers USS Ticonderoga and USS Constellation bomb North Vietnam in retaliation for strikes against U.S. destroyers in the Gulf of Tonkin.

- 1965 – The Indo-Pakistani War of 1965 begins as Pakistani soldiers cross the Line of Control dressed as locals.

- 1971 – The first Pacific Islands Forum (then known as the "South Pacific Forum") is held in Wellington, New Zealand, with the aim of enhancing cooperation between the independent countries of the Pacific Ocean.

- 1974 – Vietnam War: The U.S. Congress places a $1 billion limit on military aid to South Vietnam.

- 1979 – In Afghanistan, Maoists undertake an attempted military uprising.

- 1981 – President Ronald Reagan fires 11,359 striking air-traffic controllers who ignored his order for them to return to work.

- 1989 – General elections are held in Nicaragua with the Sandinista National Liberation Front winning a majority.

- 1995 – Yugoslav Wars: The city of Knin, Croatia, a significant Serb stronghold, is captured by Croatian forces during Operation Storm. The date is celebrated in Croatia as Victory Day.

- 2003 – A car bomb explodes in the Indonesian capital of Jakarta outside the Marriott Hotel killing 12 and injuring 150.

- 2010 – The Copiapó mining accident occurs, trapping 33 Chilean miners approximately 2,300 ft (700 m) below the ground.

- 2010 – Ten members of International Assistance Mission Nuristan Eye Camp team are killed by persons unknown in Kuran wa Munjan District of Badakhshan Province, Afghanistan.

- 2010 – United Nations Security Council Resolution 1936 relating to Iraq situation is adopted.

- 2012 – The Oak Creek shooting took place at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin, killing six people; the perpetrator was shot dead by police.

- 2015 – The Environmental Protection Agency at Gold King Mine waste water spill releases 3 million gallons of heavy metal toxin tailings and waste water into the Animas River in Colorado.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1850 – Guy de Maupassant, French short story writer, novelist, and poet

- 1862 – Joseph Merrick, English man with severe deformities

- 1906 – John Huston, American actor, director, and screenwriter

- 1912 – Abbé Pierre, French priest and humanitarian

- 1930 – Neil Armstrong, American pilot, engineer, and astronaut, first person to walk on the Moon

- 1935 – Michael Ballhaus, German director and cinematographer

- 1963 – Steve Lee, Swiss singer-songwriter

- 1968 – Marine Le Pen, French lawyer and politician

- 1974 – Kajol, Indian film actress

- 1979 – David Healy, Irish footballer

- 1981 – Jesse Williams, American actor

- 1984 – Helene Fischer, German singer-songwriter

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Quote of the day

Failure at some point in your life is inevitable, but giving up is unforgivable.

- Joe Biden -

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Jaslandia, Vista Major, Andromitus, Kalaron, Percyton, United Continental States, Moldegaard

Nuremgard wrote:Feel like I wanna make a nation that is part of another player's empire.

Your more than welcome to join me.

Nuremgard, Percyton

What would you like the next regional poll on?

Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

Onocarcass wrote:So what do you guys think should be the naming theme for this new map I'm working on?

http://i.imgur.com/BSvUc0L.png

Maori

Percyton

Yukona wrote:What would you like the next regional poll on?

Favorite milkshake flavor/combo

#MintOreo

Penguania And Antarctica

I love knowing that one of my favorite WWE wrestlers ever has given a stunner to the US president.

Vista Major

Onocarcass wrote:I love knowing that one of my favorite WWE wrestlers ever has given a stunner to the US president.

I personally would like to see #Rock2020

Onocarcass

Vista Major wrote:I personally would like to see #Rock2020

I'd vote for Dwayne Johnson, he'd solve all the worlds problems with all of the charisma.

Onocarcass wrote:I'd vote for Dwayne Johnson, he'd solve all the worlds problems with all of the charisma.

And his muscles

All his rippling, delicerous muscles....

Yukona wrote:What would you like the next regional poll on?

Favourite Game of Thrones House.

Yukona

Nuremgard wrote:Nice! So I could be a thuggish dictator, imposing my will on the people of my province for the good of the Empire. Take part in imperial politics in order to further my agenda at the higher levels (and build connections there too) and be able to invade other countries at my leisure to exploit their resources and people.

Sounds like fun!

Or you could be a part of the American Confederation. Two plots are still available in North America

Nuremgard

The PLR is no longer the Congo. I have moved to Texas to try things out. Time for Right Wing America to rise!

The Empire Of Handland

Baxten wrote:Or you could be a part of the American Confederation. Two plots are still available in North America

Hahahahahahaha.

No.

Friedensreich, Andromitus, Percyton

Baxten wrote:Or you could be a part of the American Confederation. Two plots are still available in North America

Isn't that Perland's Flag?

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:The PLR is no longer the Congo. I have moved to Texas to try things out. Time for Right Wing America to rise!

It's already risen though...

Andromitus wrote:Isn't that Perland's Flag?

It's already risen though...

Not anymore. I suggested this flag to Perland many years ago. Since I'm Cascadia now, I'm using it, and change the colors and centered the center

Andromitus

Andromitus wrote:Isn't that Perland's Flag?

It's already risen though...

Hasn't risen enough

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:Hasn't risen enough

Rise it any higher and I'll have to call a doctor because it's lasted waay longer than 4 hours

Andromitus wrote:Rise it any higher and I'll have to call a doctor because it's lasted waay longer than 4 hours

What?

Nuremgard wrote:Hahahahahahaha.

No.

Join me in Asia-land :P

Nuremgard

Nuremgard wrote:Hahahahahahaha.

No.

Strap a bunch of rockets to your country and drop it somewhere in the Kyvyr Sea :p

Nuremgard

Yo [nation=short]Baxten[/nation]

I notice there's been some map updates lately, so just wondering if my move to the Philippines and Taiwan is still on?

Percyton

Not feeling right leaving my baby of Democratic Republic of the Congo, I have decided to return to the Kongo with a little, well very valuable extension to the Kongo (incorporation of northeast Angola, which grants me their most valuable area). Now, time for the continuation of the rise of the African Superpower

Percyton, United Continental States

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Yo [nation=short]Baxten[/nation]

I notice there's been some map updates lately, so just wondering if my move to the Philippines and Taiwan is still on?

Oh sh!t I forgot that. Yes, it's on; I'll make a note on the map so I'll remember next time

Penguania And Antarctica

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:Not feeling right leaving my baby of Democratic Republic of the Congo, I have decided to return to the Kongo with a little, well very valuable extension to the Kongo (incorporation of northeast Angola, which grants me their most valuable area). Now, time for the continuation of the rise of the African Superpower

And so everyone knows, a partial expansion is legal, so no rules have been broken.

Peoples Liberation Republic, Percyton

Baxten wrote:Oh sh!t I forgot that. Yes, it's on; I'll make a note on the map so I'll remember next time

You da best

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

The new city of Luanda: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=peoples_liberation_republic/detail=factbook/id=864943

Andromitus, Percyton

Continental Commonwealths wrote:You da best

Git off my lawn!

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:The PLR is no longer the Congo. I have moved to Texas to try things out. Time for Right Wing America to rise!

...

Really boyo? All that gearing up and it's retconned :p I am wondering if everyone else is going to retcon this or try a coalition to still support the NST against the Free State and it's appeal to Concord.

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:...

Really boyo? All that gearing up and it's retconned :p I am wondering if everyone else is going to retcon this or try a coalition to still support the NST against the Free State and it's appeal to Concord.

oh no I am back to the Congo. Dont you worry your heart. I am posting right now all that I had retconned. The NST support is back

Nuremgard wrote:Feel like I wanna make a nation that is part of another player's empire.

You could create a state for El-Aaiún: be a kingdom, duchy, margraviate, principality, county, etc., or republic under the banner of the Caliphate, so long as you contribute some men to the Federal Defence Forces and National Guard, swear fealty, and don't try to circumvent the Constitution, and we'll let you have free reign on any area of governance not covered in the Constitution.

Nuremgard, Percyton

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:oh no I am back to the Congo. Dont you worry your heart. I am posting right now all that I had retconned. The NST support is back

Well that is probably the second-most schizophrenic thing I've ever witnessed in NS :p

United Continental States

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:You could create a state for El-Aaiún: be a kingdom, duchy, margraviate, principality, county, etc., or republic under the banner of the Caliphate, so long as you contribute some men to the Federal Defence Forces and National Guard, swear fealty, and don't try to circumvent the Constitution, and we'll let you have free reign on any area of governance not covered in the Constitution.

Hey that actually sounds pretty cool. I could have a Muslim nation and be part of a greater power. How much political freedom would we have as part of the empire? Would my leader be able to rule with absolute authority or would the Constitution of the Caliphate mandate some kind of legislature or suffrage?

Jaslandia, Peoples Liberation Republic, Yukona, Percyton

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:Well that is probably the second-most schizophrenic thing I've ever witnessed in NS :p

...yeah I had a moment but i am back, annexed the most important part of Angola and now I am returning full fledge to Somalia. Speaking of such, here you go: https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_confederacy_general

Nuremgard wrote:Hey that actually sounds pretty cool. I could have a Muslim nation and be part of a greater power. How much political freedom would we have as part of the empire? Would my leader be able to rule with absolute authority or would the Constitution of the Caliphate mandate some kind of legislature or suffrage?

It's a mix of the Commonwealth of Nations and the Ottoman Empire: all States have a Constitution that stipulates governance in the area (the Constitutions can, however, enshrine a hereditary absolute monarchy though citizens have equal footing amongst one another - not on equal footing with the aristocracy or royal families in more absolute provinces though), hold a Governor-General to represent the State as a whole and Lieutenant-Governors in the subdivisions of the States (similar to Canada having a Lieutenant-Governor for each province), and must can't restrict things like a state-mandated religion or homosexuality unless agreed upon by the Caliph when annexing the province. Citizens can vote in Federal elections for the Supreme Court, parts of the Constituent Assembly, and the offices of the President and Vice-President, but States can determine the electoral province. A provincial legislature or full suffrage isn't a requirement, and indentured servitude is common the further east you go, but full slavery is a no-go and cruel and unusual punishments are not allowed (public flogging and a day in the stocks, however, are considered humiliation rather than punishment). Just remember that some members of a State aristocracy can become members of the Senate, and there is further representation (the House of Sovereigns is where all State leaders meet at least once a month in El-Aaiún (Western Sahara), the Parliament of Nations is where all of the Lieutenant-Governors meet, and the Federal Supreme Council is where the Governors-General convene; being a State is not a factor in representation of the Council, you'll need a lot of affluence, military power, or some strings with the Federal Government to get a seat or share one with a neighboring State.) States can also impose embargoes and enact interstate military/political compacts with one another so long as the Government approves, and that the embargo is only with a directly neighboring state, as well as enter military conflicts with one another (at least until the Caliph or a stronger state sanctioned by the Federal Government steps in), though doing such can allow for the Caliph to strip the State's rulers of powers.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Percyton, United Continental States

I return to the Somalia Conflict: https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_confederacy_general

Friedensreich wrote:Git off my lawn!

I had a feeling you'd have objections to my claiming Taiwan :P BUT I think we could still salvage a friendship from it! We both like Scandinavian boyos, after all. :P

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Peoples Liberation Republic, Vista Major, Friedensreich, Percyton

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I had a feeling you'd have objections to my claiming Taiwan :P BUT I think we could still salvage a friendship from it! We both like Scandinavian boyos, after all. :P

I'm just messing with ya :P

I don't really mind having over nations around me (Yuk saw to that by moving right next to my doorstep), so long as they're willing to work with LeChina-reich.

Would love if you took Japan too because I'm all about that Asian dominance of the Pacific.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Peoples Liberation Republic, Percyton

Continental Commonwealths wrote:We both like Scandinavian boyos, after all. :P

I have plenty

Friedensreich wrote:I'm just messing with ya :P

I don't really mind having over nations around me (Yuk saw to that by moving right next to my doorstep), so long as they're willing to work with LeChina-reich.

Would love if you took Japan too because I'm all about that Asian dominance of the Pacific.

Pretty sure Sul is now Japan. So he can be close to his beau

Nuremgard, Pirate Kingdoms, Percyton

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Pretty sure Sul is now Japan. So he can be close to his beau

Ghey

Nuremgard, Friedensreich

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I had a feeling you'd have objections to my claiming Taiwan :P BUT I think we could still salvage a friendship from it! We both like Scandinavian boyos, after all. :P

Something that can unite all us gay nations I think, regardless of our political systems and ideologies. :P

Pirate Kingdoms

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Pretty sure Sul is now Japan. So he can be close to his beau

That's gross

Pirate Kingdoms, Magnatronia

https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=26652477

New RP post

Onocarcass wrote:The Federation Armed Forces had to get involved in the case of N'peng gaining its status as a province. The Western provinces suffer many problems due to the borders being drawn by the Karkassi Kingdom with little care for ethnic diversity there.

Oh dear! I hope those problems are solved soon and without violence!

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:

- National Work Like A Dog Day (United States)

'Work Like A Dog Day'? So, does that mean I should go around barking at people instead of whistling to them? *giggles* That seems a bit silly!

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Percyton wrote:Oh dear! I hope those problems are solved soon and without violence!

'Work Like A Dog Day'? So, does that mean I should go around barking at people instead of whistling to them? *giggles* That seems a bit silly!

Not like that, Percy; it's just a saying meaning to work very, very hard.

Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Jaslandia wrote:Not like that, Percy; it's just a saying meaning to work very, very hard.

Well that shouldn't be too hard at all; I already do that almost every day.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

I demand a new regional poll

Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Clemodecralia wrote:I demand a new regional poll

There you go :)

Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

Post self-deleted by Baxten.

Ooh close poll. It is important to read the poll description, so everyone knows.

Penguania And Antarctica

Baxten wrote:Ooh close poll. It is important to read the poll description, so everyone knows.

I did. Still no.

Penguania And Antarctica

Strong opinions killed the birdie, you know

Penguania And Antarctica

Percyton wrote:Oh dear! I hope those problems are solved soon and without violence!

'Work Like A Dog Day'? So, does that mean I should go around barking at people instead of whistling to them? *giggles* That seems a bit silly!

It's unfortunately to late to avoid violence in Zengshyn, there is a war going on there currently, which is why it is the only province travel to is advised against.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I did. Still no.

Um, alright.

I more meant that since the chaotic world is such a large button issue, it should be known that it'd be easier to achieve with a custom map, since we could reboot the world with the new, improved rules.

Onocarcass wrote:It's unfortunately to late to avoid violence in Zengshyn, there is a war going on there currently, which is why it is the only province travel to is advised against.

I'm really sorry to hear that. While I can't help militarily, Percyton would like to provide humanitarian aid, if that's alright with you.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Percyton wrote:I'm really sorry to hear that. While I can't help militarily, Percyton would like to provide humanitarian aid, if that's alright with you.

See, there are actually rules to province warfare within the Federation, none of which have been breached due to the fact that it would legally bring the Federation military into action.

The main rule is that only registered combatants may engage one another. A maximum of 3000 non combatant casualties are allowed per year as unfortunate victims of war.

As such pretty much all deaths and injuries are between rebel armies and Zengshini police forces.

Percyton

Onocarcass wrote:See, there are actually rules to province warfare within the Federation, none of which have been breached due to the fact that it would legally bring the Federation military into action.

The main rule is that only registered combatants may engage one another. A maximum of 3000 non combatant casualties are allowed per year as unfortunate victims of war.

As such pretty much all deaths and injuries are between rebel armies and Zengshini police forces.

I see. I'm glad to hear civilians aren't being adversely affected by this war. Still, if that ever changes, be sure to let us know!

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Baxten wrote:Um, alright.

I more meant that since the chaotic world is such a large button issue, it should be known that it'd be easier to achieve with a custom map, since we could reboot the world with the new, improved rules.

Um, okay.

But I prefer our main and central map be one of Earth, while custom maps can be ised for player-based RPs as these have more f an air of fantasy to them anyways (i.e. Medieval RP)

Also, you mentioned that an RP reboot with a custom map may come with "codified and central laws" and, given that laws in this region almost always refer to laws of Parliament- and I beleve that paws should not govern RP material- I'm inclined to vote against this.

United Continental States

Percyton wrote:I see. I'm glad to hear civilians aren't being adversely affected by this war. Still, if that ever changes, be sure to let us know!

The most problematic thing with Zengshin province, is that the Zengshini people aren't even the majority.

Percyton

Continental Commonwealths wrote:and I beleve that [B]paws[/B] should not govern RP material

Too right! Dogs and other pawed creatures have no right to dictate how we can RP! That's for humans and humans only to decide!

Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton, United Continental States

Jaslandia wrote:Too right! Dogs and other pawed creatures have no right to dictate how we can RP! That's for humans and humans only to decide!

You have now alienated a large portion of my populous :(

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Onocarcass wrote:The most problematic thing with Zengshin province, is that the Zengshini people aren't even the majority.

Really? That's odd. So if that's the case, why not just hold an election to split the province and end all this violence? Everyone will get their own province, and with all the other groups having split off, the Zengshini will finally be a majority in their own province. Everyone wins!

Jaslandia

Onocarcass wrote:You have now alienated a large portion of my populous :(

Don't feel bad, Ono; for what it's worth, I have no problem with dogs having a role in RPs. If they can come up with good ideas, then they're just as welcome as humans and locomotives!

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Percyton wrote:Don't feel bad, Ono; for what it's worth, I have no problem with dogs having a role in RPs. If they can come up with good ideas, then they're just as welcome as humans and locomotives!

And penguins too, of course.

Penguania And Antarctica

Percyton wrote:Really? That's odd. So if that's the case, why not just hold an election to split the province and end all this violence? Everyone will get their own province, and with all the other groups having split off, the Zengshini will finally be a majority in their own province. Everyone wins!

Legality, in order to become a province all but 1 current province has to agree the one seeking provincehood is a province. The problem is that Qinjan and Zengshyn have agreed to veto each other's rebel areas.

Jaslandia wrote:Too right! Dogs and other pawed creatures have no right to dictate how we can RP! That's for humans and humans only to decide!

That whole post was a spelling mess. I'd say don't drink and NationStates, ladies and gentlemen, but let's be honest- it's a whole lot more fun this way.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Onocarcass wrote:See, there are actually rules to province warfare within the Federation, none of which have been breached due to the fact that it would legally bring the Federation military into action.

The main rule is that only registered combatants may engage one another. A maximum of 3000 non combatant casualties are allowed per year as unfortunate victims of war.

As such pretty much all deaths and injuries are between rebel armies and Zengshini police forces.

My question is why allow Inter-Provincial war at all? If a population wants to form there own Province wouldn't it be easier (and safer) if they just be allowed to hold there own referendum and then check base with the highest legal authority?

Jaslandia, Percyton

Andromitus wrote:My question is why allow Inter-Provincial war at all? If a population wants to form there own Province wouldn't it be easier (and safer) if they just be allowed to hold there own referendum and then check base with the highest legal authority?

Laws are laws, sometimes they don't make the most rational sense.

Jaslandia

Onocarcass wrote:Legality, in order to become a province all but 1 current province has to agree the one seeking provincehood is a province. The problem is that Qinjan and Zengshyn have agreed to veto each other's rebel areas.

Again, this seems needlessly complicated as it, as seen with Qinjan and Zengshyn, seems to perpetuate oppression...

Jaslandia, Percyton

Onocarcass wrote:Laws are laws, sometimes they don't make the most rational sense.

*Revolutions*

Jaslandia

Andromitus wrote:Again, this seems needlessly complicated as it, as seen with Qinjan and Zengshyn, seems to perpetuate oppression...

Because a perfectly functional, non issue having country would be boring.

Jaslandia, Percyton

Onocarcass wrote:Legality, in order to become a province all but 1 current province has to agree the one seeking provincehood is a province. The problem is that Qinjan and Zengshyn have agreed to veto each other's rebel areas.

So why don't the people of Zengshyn vote for a new government in their province that wouldn't veto? After all, if non-Zengshini are the majority, then it should be fairly easy for them to come together and elect a new government that will let them become provinces. Qinjan would be the only veto left, so there would be enough votes to create the new provinces, right?

Jaslandia

Percyton wrote:So why don't the people of Zengshyn vote for a new government in their province that wouldn't veto? After all, if non-Zengshini are the majority, then it should be fairly easy for them to come together and elect a new government that will let them become provinces. Qinjan would be the only veto left, so there would be enough votes to create the new provinces, right?

You'd be amazed just how little of the population you need to vote for you, when you section off voters properly.

Jaslandia, Percyton

Onocarcass wrote:You'd be amazed just how little of the population you need to vote for you, when you section off voters properly.

Voter suppression? Somehow I'm not surprised. How does Zengshyn do it? Property requirements? Making some people's votes count more than other people's? Making it difficult for people to physically get to the polls?

Jaslandia wrote:Voter suppression? Somehow I'm not surprised. How does Zengshyn do it? Property requirements? Making some people's votes count more than other people's? Making it difficult for people to physically get to the polls?

Zengshini votes count for 3

Kangshen votes count for 1

Other ethnic groups count for 2

Kangshen are the majority group of Zengshyn province, but the Zengshini people were the most receptive to the Karkassi advance during Grand Expansionism, as such the kingdom put them in positions of power in the area.

Jaslandia

Whatever happened to Markotovia?

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, Percyton

Fibertas wrote:Whatever happened to Markotovia?
The poor Italian faded away from us, God bless his Catholic soul.

Do pray that he returns to us. I miss his sweet digital touch...

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, Percyton

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Um, okay.

But I prefer our main and central map be one of Earth, while custom maps can be ised for player-based RPs as these have more f an air of fantasy to them anyways (i.e. Medieval RP)

Also, you mentioned that an RP reboot with a custom map may come with "codified and central laws" and, given that laws in this region almost always refer to laws of Parliament- and I beleve that paws should not govern RP material- I'm inclined to vote against this.

Oh I don't mean that. RP laws would e totally separate. They'd be "codified" in my own rulebook, not in the burecratic halls of Parliament.

Jaslandia wrote:Too right! Dogs and other pawed creatures have no right to dictate how we can RP! That's for humans and humans only to decide!

Yea, I didn't mean in the government; that Latrovian mess of an idea was the antithesis of my RP moderation plan. I mean to form a moderation council, totally separate, and make laws codified in my own factbooks, like mentioned above.

Onocarcass wrote:Zengshini votes count for 3

Kangshen votes count for 1

Other ethnic groups count for 2

Kangshen are the majority group of Zengshyn province, but the Zengshini people were the most receptive to the Karkassi advance during Grand Expansionism, as such the kingdom put them in positions of power in the area.

How unfortunately typical. I hope the rest of Onocarcass isn't like that.

Percyton

Jaslandia wrote:How unfortunately typical. I hope the rest of Onocarcass isn't like that.

Most of the provinces East of Haygrevski are very fair.

Jaslandia, Percyton

Onocarcass wrote:Most of the provinces East of Haygrevski are very fair.

So, Onocarcass basically lets each provinces do whatever they want and run things however they want? Seems more like a confederation than a federation. Onocarcass must be the Holy Roman Empire of the CFN, except with more furries.

Percyton

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