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To be fair, it's been a while since we had an RP related argument on the RMB.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Continental Commonwealths wrote:To be fair, it's been a while since we had an RP related argument on the RMB.

It has been, actually.

I have grown complacent, not being embargoed constantly by upstart nations :p

Jaslandia, Andromitus

Kalaron wrote:It has been, actually.

I have grown complacent, not being embargoed constantly by upstart nations :p

lol

Tserra wrote:And you are not getting it. Puppet or not is not the issue. You are missing the forest for the trees. It is the equivalent of an unfair exploit. I could literally right now have 4 friends make NS accounts, get WA, come to this region, apply for map spots, and then have them join in union with me, thus netting me 4 additional territories, and a massive population boost.

Doing so would not be fair. If those same people came here over time, joined the RP, wanted to Unionize with me. Whatever thats fine.

Its the way that it was gone about, Evera had no intention of ever being in our region, he came here seemingly solely for the purpose of giving PLR a buff. Essentially, via exploit PLR gained additional territory, and population. Which is not fair.

You don't know that. Stop making assumptions. Literally I could be establishing something like an African USSR for Unitary Republicanism. He and I have been friends for years. We have played NS together. He is in a political, economic, and military Union with me. I don't see the problem here. So what if he just got here. Him and I negotiated before he joined this region. I told him about it. That's it. So what if we had a combined population and now larger territory after the unification. I am unifying countries literally the right way. I'm not cutting corners at all. I spoke to Fried about this during the whole process that I was talking to my friend to join. Look I'm not revoking this Union because select few people don't like it. I could care less. Making Unions is not against the rules . So nothing is changing .

Kalaron wrote:It has been, actually.

I have grown complacent, not being embargoed constantly by upstart nations :p

I've been temped once or twice, but Kalaronian Kanagroo Wine is served at all government functions so it's a tough sell for politicians.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:You don't know that. Stop making assumptions. Literally I could be establishing something like an African USSR for Unitary Republicanism. He and I have been friends for years. We have played NS together. He is in a political, economic, and military Union with me. I don't see the problem here. So what if he just got here. Him and I negotiated before he joined this region. I told him about it. That's it. So what if we had a combined population and now larger territory after the unification. I am unifying countries literally the right way. I'm not cutting corners at all. I spoke to Fried about this during the whole process that I was talking to my friend to join. Look I'm not revoking this Union because select few people don't like it. I could care less. Making Unions is not against the rules . So nothing is changing .

Thats the problem; You formed an out of region alliance long ago which is not okay because nobody else was even able to see whats going on. As a moderator you did not break the rules, but you did abuse them. End of discussion.

Tserra wrote:And you are not getting it. Puppet or not is not the issue. You are missing the forest for the trees. It is the equivalent of an unfair exploit. I could literally right now have 4 friends make NS accounts, get WA, come to this region, apply for map spots, and then have them join in union with me, thus netting me 4 additional territories, and a massive population boost.

Doing so would not be fair. If those same people came here over time, joined the RP, wanted to Unionize with me. Whatever thats fine.

Its the way that it was gone about, Evera had no intention of ever being in our region, he came here seemingly solely for the purpose of giving PLR a buff. Essentially, via exploit PLR gained additional territory, and population. Which is not fair.

That's hyperbole. If PLR wanted conscientiously to abuse an exploit (if he even saw it as such, we had figured it was perfectly innocent to bring friends into the region and having RP relations with them) like you just described (4 friends all jumping on board to union), he would have asked more than one person to come over.

And, this is yet another reason why Mods need to set up a publicly visible code of ethics for RP. Because now that there's a fit being thrown about it, it's going to set a precedent; "moving friends from other regions here and making unions with them right off the bat is not kosher". Stops the problem from happening again, y'know?

But anyway, so you're saying it would have been a-ok if there was some sort of buildup before such a thing?

Friedensreich wrote:

But anyway, so you're saying it would have been a-ok if there was some sort of buildup before such a thing?

Yes, that is exactly what were saying; Fried, both you and I have had unions, mine CTE'd and I absorbed the territory and yours moved away. To not allow PLR to Union would be top of the line levels of Hypocrisy.

Kalaron wrote:It has been, actually.

I have grown complacent, not being embargoed constantly by upstart nations :p

I'm embargoing you. Dunno why. I want that upstart moniker....

The Empire Of Handland

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I've been temped once or twice, but Kalaronian Kanagroo Wine is served at all government functions so it's a tough sell for politicians.

Kalaronian Kanagroo Wine was a fortunate addition to our sales, though we shouldn't have been drinking it while we named it :D

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I've been temped once or twice, but Kalaronian Kanagroo Wine is served at all government functions so it's a tough sell for politicians.

And you're forgetting the opium laced Eiswein from China, which is bound to be better......................

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Oh, also.

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=421225&start=75

Relevance burns

Friedensreich wrote:That's hyperbole. If PLR wanted conscientiously to abuse an exploit (if he even saw it as such, we had figured it was perfectly innocent to bring friends into the region and having RP relations with them) like you just described (4 friends all jumping on board to union), he would have asked more than one person to come over.

And, this is yet another reason why Mods need to set up a publicly visible code of ethics for RP. Because now that there's a fit being thrown about it, it's going to set a precedent; "moving friends from other regions here and making unions with them right off the bat is not kosher". Stops the problem from happening again, y'know?

But anyway, so you're saying it would have been a-ok if there was some sort of buildup before such a thing?

Of course it would have. The problem is, someone moved in, who despite the BS had no apparent plan to ever actually RP with us, take a spot, and then in all but name only straight up give it to PLR. It had the effect of of an exploit.

I am going to use an example. If my buddy Thomas, who some may or may not know as Klinz(Star Trek Nation) came into the region, decided he wanted to RP with us, and eventually decided to unionize with me, that would be fine. If he then at some point in the future CTE'd, there would be no issue with me keeping the land and the pop. Ala Andy for example.

It was the way it was done. You are right we need to have RP laws more codified, and what not, but just looking at it from a common sense perspective, this was unfair to every active RP participant.

Andromitus wrote:Thats the problem; You formed an out of region alliance long ago which is not okay because nobody else was even able to see whats going on. As a moderator you did not break the rules, but you did abuse them. End of discussion.

Actually you are wrong. Fried knew therefore, I did inform somebody. I didn't abuse anything. So what? I have more land, people, resources, and access to other regions of the world. That's not my problem. I did politics and brought in a friend and discussed creating an alliance. I didn't break a rule so there's no need to make a big deal. He is in the region, became a citizen, joined WA, joined the map, and made a Union with me. He is one of my closest friends. As I stated, nothing is going to end nor change this Union. It is completely legal and it makes no sense that y'all are making a huge deal about it.

Evera Ii

Alright, this is to firmly establish the necessity of order in roleplaying in the region and has been agreed upon by the roleplaying council. Any questions or concerns should be leveled in an articulate level that is to the point, not word salads and he said, she said arguments: we don't need this to break out into name-calling and the constables being mobilized.

[spoiler=Active Roleplayers, Pay Attention]Notice: To avoid confusion, this nation (known as Pirate Kingdoms by the majority of the Confederacy) will be the representative of the account of Discord member UCT#3923 as a moderator in the roleplay council.

As part of the roleplay moderation council, it is within my duties to inform the residents and citizens that actively partake in roleplay, whether in the CG RMB, NS forums, or the Zetaboard forums. It is also the responsibility of the moderators to release findings and reports concerning gameplay, such as the topic . As such, a recent decision has been made by the council concerning supranational unions.

For those who have been in the region for a while now, one can recall Jotunheim Collective, a player who willingly joined in political union with Andromitus from late 2016 to 2017, eventually ceasing to exist after going over the amount of time that the game grants for players who have not signed in. As well, one can also recall the union efforts of Latrovia, whose United Kingdom concept was supported by Mononoke San, Audiastan, Lothran, The Cross And Davids Star, Iloiada, and Sweedish. As history demonstrated, the United Kingdom as a political entity quickly fell apart as several of the above nations ceased to exist or withdrew support of the concept, eventually leaving Latrovia with only Sweedish as part of the Confederacy Map.

Another concept that also fell apart around the same time was the Greater Kaiserreich (as simplified due to language barriers), the union between Baxten, Oelesa, Sulania, and Einsiev as a German state. Due to differences between administration, eventually leading to the Sulanian Civil War, leakage of an invasion plot between Baxten and The Vidnoye, and distrust due to both incidents, the Reich fell apart in the backdrop of the dissolution of the International Trade Federation and eventually the Union of Socialist Cooperative States in the aftermath of the Sulanian Civil War.

Due to these incidents regarding the accumulation of power, as well as complaints of land-grabbing (in the cases of both the Ædenist Union of Andromitus and Jotunheim, as well as the United Kingdom), and the recent announcement of the Peoples Liberation Republic and Evera Ii to form a union of the African States, the council instead advises that supranational unions and their member states (whether as a singular nation such as the Kaiserreich, or as decentralized powers as seen so far with the PLR and Evera) be active in roleplay and to declare themselves in any medium such as the Confederacy News Forum, Confederacy General, Confederacy Zetaboards Forums, or in the Confederacy's RMB. Any attempts to declare such union in an environment in which residents and citizens do not have access to, or willfully avoid it, such as Discord, will be considered null and void unless precautions were made and that the announcement is made in one of the aforementioned mediums of communication.

Please note that is not the result of bias, but simply a decision that must be addressed concerning the lack of cooperation between supranational unions as demonstrated before in the past. This is not the result of groups such as Concord trying to maintain hegemony, this is a non-partisan decision that has been made to keep roleplaying in the region as fair and open as possible. Any conflicting thoughts or questions concerning the matter should be made open, especially regarding the situation we are facing as of this moment.

As written,

UCT, Roleplay Council Moderator.[/spoiler]

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia

Tserra wrote:Of course it would have. The problem is, someone moved in, who despite the BS had no apparent plan to ever actually RP with us, take a spot, and then in all but name only straight up give it to PLR. It had the effect of of an exploit.

I am going to use an example. If my buddy Thomas, who some may or may not know as Klinz(Star Trek Nation) came into the region, decided he wanted to RP with us, and eventually decided to unionize with me, that would be fine. If he then at some point in the future CTE'd, there would be no issue with me keeping the land and the pop. Ala Andy for example.

It was the way it was done. You are right we need to have RP laws more codified, and what not, but just looking at it from a common sense perspective, this was unfair to every active RP participant.

Oi, so you're telling me that once a member of a union disappears that the other member(s) can absorb that member's plot? How is that fair for that matter either?

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:Actually you are wrong. Fried knew therefore, I did inform somebody. I didn't abuse anything. So what? I have more land, people, resources, and access to other regions of the world. That's not my problem. I did politics and brought in a friend and discussed creating an alliance. I didn't break a rule so there's no need to make a big deal. He is in the region, became a citizen, joined WA, joined the map, and made a Union with me. He is one of my closest friends. As I stated, nothing is going to end nor change this Union. It is completely legal and it makes no sense that y'all are making a huge deal about it.

The United Confederacy Of Texas wrote:Alright, this is to firmly establish the necessity of order in roleplaying in the region and has been agreed upon by the roleplaying council. Any questions or concerns should be leveled in an articulate level that is to the point, not word salads and he said, she said arguments: we don't need this to break out into name-calling and the constables being mobilized.

[spoiler=Active Roleplayers, Pay Attention]Notice: To avoid confusion, this nation (known as Pirate Kingdoms by the majority of the Confederacy) will be the representative of the account of Discord member UCT#3923 as a moderator in the roleplay council.

As part of the roleplay moderation council, it is within my duties to inform the residents and citizens that actively partake in roleplay, whether in the CG RMB, NS forums, or the Zetaboard forums. It is also the responsibility of the moderators to release findings and reports concerning gameplay, such as the topic . As such, a recent decision has been made by the council concerning supranational unions.

For those who have been in the region for a while now, one can recall Jotunheim Collective, a player who willingly joined in political union with Andromitus from late 2016 to 2017, eventually ceasing to exist after going over the amount of time that the game grants for players who have not signed in. As well, one can also recall the union efforts of Latrovia, whose United Kingdom concept was supported by Mononoke San, Audiastan, Lothran, The Cross And Davids Star, Iloiada, and Sweedish. As history demonstrated, the United Kingdom as a political entity quickly fell apart as several of the above nations ceased to exist or withdrew support of the concept, eventually leaving Latrovia with only Sweedish as part of the Confederacy Map.

Another concept that also fell apart around the same time was the Greater Kaiserreich (as simplified due to language barriers), the union between Baxten, Oelesa, Sulania, and Einsiev as a German state. Due to differences between administration, eventually leading to the Sulanian Civil War, leakage of an invasion plot between Baxten and The Vidnoye, and distrust due to both incidents, the Reich fell apart in the backdrop of the dissolution of the International Trade Federation and eventually the Union of Socialist Cooperative States in the aftermath of the Sulanian Civil War.

Due to these incidents regarding the accumulation of power, as well as complaints of land-grabbing (in the cases of both the Ædenist Union of Andromitus and Jotunheim, as well as the United Kingdom), and the recent announcement of the Peoples Liberation Republic and Evera Ii to form a union of the African States, the council instead advises that supranational unions and their member states (whether as a singular nation such as the Kaiserreich, or as decentralized powers as seen so far with the PLR and Evera) be active in roleplay and to declare themselves in any medium such as the Confederacy News Forum, Confederacy General, Confederacy Zetaboards Forums, or in the Confederacy's RMB. Any attempts to declare such union in an environment in which residents and citizens do not have access to, or willfully avoid it, such as Discord, will be considered null and void unless precautions were made and that the announcement is made in one of the aforementioned mediums of communication.

Please note that is not the result of bias, but simply a decision that must be addressed concerning the lack of cooperation between supranational unions as demonstrated before in the past. This is not the result of groups such as Concord trying to maintain hegemony, this is a non-partisan decision that has been made to keep roleplaying in the region as fair and open as possible. Any conflicting thoughts or questions concerning the matter should be made open, especially regarding the situation we are facing as of this moment.

As written,

UCT, Roleplay Council Moderator.[/spoiler]

Tserra wrote:I do not often Endorse people, because I ain't about that life, and because I have decided to take a non-interference policy in regional governmental affairs so as to no appear biased. I am going to break that self imposed silence to say, I Endorse Hyde for Vice Chancellor. He is a good one.

-Tse "Rev" rra

I love you man

Percyton

Friedensreich wrote:Oi, so you're telling me that once a member of a union disappears that the other member(s) can absorb that member's plot? How is that fair for that matter either?

Ok I give up. Do whatever you want. You win.

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:Actually you are wrong. Fried knew therefore, I did inform somebody.

Telling Fried is not the same as telling the entire Region.

Six thousand. Four hundred. And ninety-one posts since I last checked in. Y'all have been busy.

Jaslandia, The United Confederacy Of Texas, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Au Minbo wrote:Six thousand. Four hundred. And ninety-one posts since I last checked in. Y'all have been busy.

I love you.

Jaslandia, The United Confederacy Of Texas, Au Minbo, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Au Minbo wrote:Six thousand. Four hundred. And ninety-one posts since I last checked in. Y'all have been busy.

Heya Min! How've you been?

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Au Minbo wrote:Six thousand. Four hundred. And ninety-one posts since I last checked in. Y'all have been busy.

My favorite Virginian woman, how has life been?

Jaslandia, Percyton

Tserra wrote:Ok I give up. Do whatever you want. You win.

No, I'm being honest and serious. It's clear you aren't seeing that I am.

Tserra wrote:I love you.

<3

Love you too Tse

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

#WINTERISCOMING

The Federal Republic Of Estovakia, The Vidnoye, Andromitus, Confederal States, South Hyder

Andromitus wrote:Heya Min! How've you been?

I've been good. I got a tan over the summer, made some money, now I'm back to school in 12 hours. How about you?

The United Confederacy Of Texas wrote:My favorite Virginian woman, how has life been?

While the Commonwealth of Virginia is a beautiful state that I do appreciate, I am not its native child. Born and raised in Vermont, yet to leave after almost 21 years. :)

Jaslandia, The Vidnoye, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, Percyton

The First Debate of the 5th Union Election Cycle!

Percyton

Au Minbo wrote:I've been good. I got a tan over the summer, made some money, now I'm back to school in 12 hours. How about you?

I've been fine, improved my writing abilities significantly (Thanks CoFN!), and have been exploring collages

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Friedensreich wrote:No, I'm being honest and serious. It's clear you aren't seeing that I am.

Because Fried, it feels like it does not matter. One hundred percent, it feels like if we were to note the sky is blue, you would vehemently argue that its green, and for no reason at that. You may not actually be trying to do that, but that is how it feels. Even if we do get it established that the sky is in fact blue, you will then argue about how its not really fair though, because the clouds are also up there, and they are white.

I am not trying to put you down. I am not trying to start a bigger argument, but honest to God that is how it feels to talk to you about things like this, like I like you Fried, I like talking to you, I like hanging out with you in Discord, but I do not want to RP with you, because of stuff like this.

Au Minbo wrote:I've been good. I got a tan over the summer, made some money, now I'm back to school in 12 hours. How about you?While the Commonwealth of Virginia is a beautiful state that I do appreciate, I am not its native child. Born and raised in Vermont, yet to leave after almost 21 years. :)

Okay I'll admit I completely f*cked up at that. How's my favorite native Vermonter?

Jaslandia, Au Minbo, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

I just broke my economy but on the positive side the poor make almost the same amount as the rich do.

Vista Major, Andromitus, Yukona, Percyton

Tserra wrote:if we were to note the sky is blue, you would vehemently argue that its green

But we've always been at war with Eastasia?

Jaslandia

Andromitus wrote:But we've always been at war with Eastasia?

True, we've always been at war with Eurasia

Jaslandia

Serft wrote:I just broke my economy but on the positive side the poor make almost the same amount as the rich do.

Don't worry, with aid from your fellow socialists you'll be back on your feet in no time!

Percyton, Serft

Andromitus wrote:Don't worry, with aid from your fellow socialists you'll be back on your feet in no time!

Well, I have no clue what I am doing but thanks.

Percyton

Serft wrote:I just broke my economy but on the positive side the poor make almost the same amount as the rich do.

Trust me, I've had my depressions back in the day

Or, as it was then, a thriving economy that was literally rated 0/100

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=vista_major/detail=trend

Percyton

Serft wrote:Well, I have no clue what I am doing but thanks.

Don't worry mate. You will get it. We have your back. :D

Vista Major, Percyton, Serft

Serft wrote:Well, I have no clue what I am doing but thanks.

Oh, and welcome to the Region! I'm Andy :D

Percyton, Serft

Vista Major wrote:Trust me, I've had my depressions back in the day

Or, as it was then, a thriving economy that was literally rated 0/100

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=vista_major/detail=trend

oh god i just noticed the flag change

bleugh :p

Vista Major, Yukona

Andromitus wrote:I've been fine, improved my writing abilities significantly (Thanks CoFN!), and have been exploring collages

Very nice!

The United Confederacy Of Texas wrote:Okay I'll admit I completely f*cked up at that. How's my favorite native Vermonter?

It's alright, Virginia's a nice state after all. And I am doing well, like I said to Andy I got a tan over the summer and made some nice money for a minimum wage gig. Also turning 21 in... 27 days. 27 days of forced sobriety, although ironically I'll be in Canada on my birthday even though I don't need to anymore to drink, not that that was a thing I did.

Jaslandia, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Unf jumped the gun but the mods got the blame for it anyway.

I didn't even have to frame them wow this is easy.

No but really however way you hack it puppet or not this is a ploy to gain more land. If you're serious about RPing please establish your nation in the RP world before attaching yourself to your IRL friends side (which could be construed as meta-gaming anyway, what IC reason does this nation have to join this union apart from this relationship you suddenly invented that wasn't developed in RP at all).

Jaslandia, Kalaron

The United Confederacy Of Texas wrote:oh god i just noticed the flag change

bleugh :p

watch game of thrones or die

Tserra wrote:Because Fried, it feels like it does not matter. One hundred percent, it feels like if we were to note the sky is blue, you would vehemently argue that its green, and for no reason at that. You may not actually be trying to do that, but that is how it feels. Even if we do get it established that the sky is in fact blue, you will then argue about how its not really fair though, because the clouds are also up there, and they are white.

I am not trying to put you down. I am not trying to start a bigger argument, but honest to God that is how it feels to talk to you about things like this, like I like you Fried, I like talking to you, I like hanging out with you in Discord, but I do not want to RP with you, because of stuff like this.

I mean, you can just say it's going to start something you don't want to be in, that's fine, but saying "[you] don't want to RP with me" is a little more than hurtful.

Unfallious wrote:Unf jumped the gun but the mods got the blame for it anyway.

I didn't even have to frame them wow this is easy.

No but really however way you hack it puppet or not this is a ploy to gain more land. If you're serious about RPing please establish your nation in the RP world before attaching yourself to your IRL friends side (which could be construed as meta-gaming anyway, what IC reason does this nation have to join this union apart from this relationship you suddenly invented that wasn't developed in RP at all).

Which RP? Aren't there, like, two?

Au Minbo wrote:Very nice!It's alright, Virginia's a nice state after all. And I am doing well, like I said to Andy I got a tan over the summer and made some nice money for a minimum wage gig. Also turning 21 in... 27 days. 27 days of forced sobriety, although ironically I'll be in Canada on my birthday even though I don't need to anymore to drink, not that that was a thing I did.

lucky: i'll have to wait another 3 years but my brother just needs another 364/365 days until he turns 21 :p

Vista Major wrote:watch game of thrones or die

feck you :p

Penguania And Antarctica

Friedensreich wrote:I mean, you can just say it's going to start something you don't want to be in, that's fine, but saying "[you] don't want to RP with me" is a little more than hurtful.

Case in point. Your not taking the criticism, and rolling with it, your making something I said, in the nicest, and most informative way possible into an issue.

Vista Major wrote:Which RP? Aren't there, like, two?

My RP hasn't started yet because Yuk is slow with the map so this is modern.

Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Vista Major wrote:Trust me, I've had my depressions back in the day

Or, as it was then, a thriving economy that was literally rated 0/100

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=vista_major/detail=trend

Ouch, I assume that you can improve (or damage) your economy by those random issues right?

Andromitus wrote:Oh, and welcome to the Region! I'm Andy :D

Thank you, my names Greg.

Andromitus

Unfallious wrote:My RP hasn't started yet because Yuk is slow with the map so this is modern.

*Cries*

*Dies*

Yukona

Yukona, you Amber-loving British sonuvabitch, #UploadMapOrRiot

Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, Confederal States

Unfallious wrote:My RP hasn't started yet because Yuk is slow with the map so this is modern.

I'll get an app in, I swear!

Serft wrote:Ouch, I assume that you can improve (or damage) your economy by those random issues right?

All. The. Time.

Jaslandia, Serft

Au Minbo wrote:Six thousand. Four hundred. And ninety-one posts since I last checked in. Y'all have been busy.

Minnie! Great to see you again!

Au Minbo, Vista Major, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Tserra wrote:Case in point. Your not taking the criticism, and rolling with it, your making something I said, in the nicest, and most informative way possible into an issue.

I'm not. I took it and just said "wow that hurts".

Friedensreich wrote:I'm not. I took it and just said "wow that hurts".

You win.

Tserra wrote:You win.

Whatever you say man.

I think I've overstayed my welcome here so I'm done with COFN.

Have a nice rest of your life Tse. Always respected you

Jaslandia wrote:Minnie! Great to see you again!

I must admit the same. It's been too long!

Jaslandia, Au Minbo, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

The United Confederacy Of Texas wrote:Alright, this is to firmly establish the necessity of order in roleplaying in the region and has been agreed upon by the roleplaying council. Any questions or concerns should be leveled in an articulate level that is to the point, not word salads and he said, she said arguments: we don't need this to break out into name-calling and the constables being mobilized.

[spoiler=Active Roleplayers, Pay Attention]Notice: To avoid confusion, this nation (known as Pirate Kingdoms by the majority of the Confederacy) will be the representative of the account of Discord member UCT#3923 as a moderator in the roleplay council.

As part of the roleplay moderation council, it is within my duties to inform the residents and citizens that actively partake in roleplay, whether in the CG RMB, NS forums, or the Zetaboard forums. It is also the responsibility of the moderators to release findings and reports concerning gameplay, such as the topic . As such, a recent decision has been made by the council concerning supranational unions.

For those who have been in the region for a while now, one can recall Jotunheim Collective, a player who willingly joined in political union with Andromitus from late 2016 to 2017, eventually ceasing to exist after going over the amount of time that the game grants for players who have not signed in. As well, one can also recall the union efforts of Latrovia, whose United Kingdom concept was supported by Mononoke San, Audiastan, Lothran, The Cross And Davids Star, Iloiada, and Sweedish. As history demonstrated, the United Kingdom as a political entity quickly fell apart as several of the above nations ceased to exist or withdrew support of the concept, eventually leaving Latrovia with only Sweedish as part of the Confederacy Map.

Another concept that also fell apart around the same time was the Greater Kaiserreich (as simplified due to language barriers), the union between Baxten, Oelesa, Sulania, and Einsiev as a German state. Due to differences between administration, eventually leading to the Sulanian Civil War, leakage of an invasion plot between Baxten and The Vidnoye, and distrust due to both incidents, the Reich fell apart in the backdrop of the dissolution of the International Trade Federation and eventually the Union of Socialist Cooperative States in the aftermath of the Sulanian Civil War.

Due to these incidents regarding the accumulation of power, as well as complaints of land-grabbing (in the cases of both the Ædenist Union of Andromitus and Jotunheim, as well as the United Kingdom), and the recent announcement of the Peoples Liberation Republic and Evera Ii to form a union of the African States, the council instead advises that supranational unions and their member states (whether as a singular nation such as the Kaiserreich, or as decentralized powers as seen so far with the PLR and Evera) be active in roleplay and to declare themselves in any medium such as the Confederacy News Forum, Confederacy General, Confederacy Zetaboards Forums, or in the Confederacy's RMB. Any attempts to declare such union in an environment in which residents and citizens do not have access to, or willfully avoid it, such as Discord, will be considered null and void unless precautions were made and that the announcement is made in one of the aforementioned mediums of communication.

Please note that is not the result of bias, but simply a decision that must be addressed concerning the lack of cooperation between supranational unions as demonstrated before in the past. This is not the result of groups such as Concord trying to maintain hegemony, this is a non-partisan decision that has been made to keep roleplaying in the region as fair and open as possible. Any conflicting thoughts or questions concerning the matter should be made open, especially regarding the situation we are facing as of this moment.

As written,

UCT, Roleplay Council Moderator.[/spoiler]

Aye. Also... Love the national name and flag xD

Percyton

Russkov Soviet wrote:Aye. Also... Love the national name and flag xD

Thanks, same to you for managing to combine FiM and the Soviet Union

Russkov Soviet, Andromitus, Percyton

The United Confederacy Of Texas wrote:Thanks, same to you for managing to combine FiM and the Soviet Union

FiM? Nah... Not THAT Equestria. We are "furries". My cousin and I watch that show when I'm babysitting her. Far as I'm aware (in Tennessee atm at a show my fathers doing) the only MLP reference in my nation besides "Equestrian Empire", is the first name of my Premiers wife is in fact Luna.

Andromitus, Percyton

Friedensreich wrote:Whatever you say man.

I think I've overstayed my welcome here so I'm done with COFN.

Have a nice rest of your life Tse. Always respected you

I haven't followed this argument, but I'm sure it's not an indication that you should leave, Fried. I'd personally be a little bummed if you leave. We've had some fun discussions, a debate here and there, and I've grown to rather like your presence here in the CFN.

Jaslandia, Yukona, Percyton

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I haven't followed this argument, but I'm sure it's not an indication that you should leave, Fried. I'd personally be a little bummed if you leave. We've had some fun discussions, a debate here and there, and I've grown to rather like your presence here in the CFN.

I dunno, I've just been feeling like I'm a bit alone here for quite some time. Its not really something that just happens in one theatrical display. Just builds up over time. Today was just the stone that broke the camel's back.

Also been having the feeling like I can't be my normal self here. Like with TNI, I could joke around all the time and still be taken serious when it counted. Here it just didn't feel like that happened much.

Friedensreich wrote:I dunno, I've just been feeling like I'm a bit alone here for quite some time. Its not really something that just happens in one theatrical display. Just builds up over time. Today was just the stone that broke the camel's back.

Also been having the feeling like I can't be my normal self here. Like with TNI, I could joke around all the time and still be taken serious when it counted. Here it just didn't feel like that happened much.

Well f*ck! I go on a tour with my dad, and the region goes to utter shlt! Ugh. Fine. I'm gonna miss ya Fried. I understand where your coming from, and I apologize about my silence. I have no stance/ comment on the whole "puppet union land grab thing", and I'll be back in a week. If anyone wants to communicate, PLEASE...PLEASE...TELEGRAM ME! I will only have a few minutes every now and then. I don't have time to look at 200+ messages.

Whelp...Its showtime! Gotta go grab the drums and go get set up. Rock on bro's!

Russkie Out!

Jaslandia, Percyton

Unfallious wrote:Unf jumped the gun but the mods got the blame for it anyway.

I didn't even have to frame them wow this is easy.

No but really however way you hack it puppet or not this is a ploy to gain more land. If you're serious about RPing please establish your nation in the RP world before attaching yourself to your IRL friends side (which could be construed as meta-gaming anyway, what IC reason does this nation have to join this union apart from this relationship you suddenly invented that wasn't developed in RP at all).

When Kal's associated, it's as easy as 1,2,3 ;D

Friedensreich wrote:Whatever you say man.

I think I've overstayed my welcome here so I'm done with COFN.

Have a nice rest of your life Tse. Always respected you

I really wish you didn't leave Fried, but in the end, I suppose it's your choice. Good luck in the future!

Percyton

I spent the weekend with a friend. What did I miss?

Friedensreich wrote:I dunno, I've just been feeling like I'm a bit alone here for quite some time. Its not really something that just happens in one theatrical display. Just builds up over time. Today was just the stone that broke the camel's back.

Also been having the feeling like I can't be my normal self here. Like with TNI, I could joke around all the time and still be taken serious when it counted. Here it just didn't feel like that happened much.

I would miss you if you left, dude but it's your choice.

Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, Percyton

Nuremgard wrote:I spent the weekend with a friend. What did I miss?

I would miss you if you left, dude but it's your choice.

Not much, I talked more with Tim which made me pretty happy :3

Percyton

Hallo

Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, Percyton

I don't consider this a place to vent, but damn I don't understand some people's behavior online.

There was a question about how life was living in Lisbon, and I answered with an inhabitant's opinion. When I visited the city, a barista told us she had to maintain two jobs and still ask for money from her mom to get around. I commented that and immediately got people telling me I'm dumb for coming on there to tell a citizen's 'inaccurate' experience? I just answered the question with an opinionated experience that was rather negative and it angered the person who asked the question. Bruh why are you even asking if you don't want to hear negative opinions.

Nuremgard, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Confederal States, Serft

Kalaron wrote:Not much, I talked more with Tim which made me pretty happy :3

Ugh. Young love.

Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Nuremgard wrote:Ugh. Young love.

I gagged.

Nuremgard, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Confederal States

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=421225&p=32414077#p32414077

Evera

St Leopold wrote:Hallo

Hey Leo! I'm Andromitus but you can call me Andy :D

Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton, St Leopold

I reposted it, stunning developments in the middle of our broadcast?

Percyton

What's all this talk about PLR doing things the international community doesn't agree with? And why is my RP dead.

Penguania And Antarctica, Confederal States

I'm guessing the state of emergency is lifted now huh?

Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica

Magnatronia wrote:What's all this talk about PLR doing things the international community doesn't agree with? And why is my RP dead.

PLR targeted civilians in some random towns in his factions own territory; second one IDK

Lex Caledonia wrote:I'm guessing the state of emergency is lifted now huh?

Think so :P

Kalaron, Penguania And Antarctica

Andromitus wrote:PLR targeted civilians in some random towns in his factions own territory

Good, they had it coming to them.

Penguania And Antarctica

Post self-deleted by Magnatronia.

Andromitus wrote:Hey Leo! I'm Andromitus but you can call me Andy :D

Hey Andy i'm Chris

Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, Percyton

Lex Caledonia wrote:I'm guessing the state of emergency is lifted now huh?

https://wingsoverscotland.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Screen-Shot-2017-08-27-at-20.34.13.png

Looks like Corbynmania is really taking over Scotland.

i love you all

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Axeldonia, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Tserra, Percyton

The News Feed is so juicy lately.

Silver Crest wrote:i love you all

Me as well?

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Moldegaard wrote:The News Feed is so juicy lately.

Me as well?

especially you <3

Nuremgard, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton, Moldegaard

Silver Crest wrote:especially you <3

Aw that's cuter than I expected

Nuremgard, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Spanelsko

Just a reminder that the candidacy period for the September election will end this Thursday. We currently have candidates for every office except Speaker, but as it stands there won't be any contest for most positions as no more than one person is running for each of them.

So, I encourage you to consider running for elected office and to declare your candidacy sooner rather than later if you intend to. To declare, please send a telegram to both Baxten and I with the position you wish to run for; a single telegram to both of us is much appreciated.

Jaslandia, Percyton

Andromitus wrote:I reposted it, stunning developments in the middle of our broadcast?

It's Huvudman, not Luvudman.

The Vidnoye, Andromitus

[spoiler=Today is August 28 and today are:]

Today is August 28 and today are:

- Chinese Valentine's Day (China)

- Crackers Over The Keyboard Day

- Dream Day

- Father's Day (South Sudan)

- Feast of the Mother of God (Eastern Orthodox Church)

- National Bow Tie Day (United States)

- National Cherry Turnovers Day (United States)

- National Grandparents Day (Mexico)

- Race Your Mouse Around The Icons Day

- Radio Commercials Day

- Rainbow Bridge Remembrance Day

- Russian Germans Day

[/spoiler]

[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 475 – The Roman general Orestes forces western Roman Emperor Julius Nepos to flee his capital city, Ravenna.

- 489 – Theodoric, king of the Ostrogoths, defeats Odoacer at the Battle of Isonzo, forcing his way into Italy.

- 632 – Fatimah, daughter of the Islamic prophet Muhammad died, with her cause of death being a controversial topic among the Sunni Muslims and Shia Muslims.

- 663 – Silla–Tang armies crush the Baekje restoration attempt and force Yamato Japan to withdraw from Korea in the Battle of Baekgang.

- 1189 – Third Crusade: The Crusaders begin the Siege of Acre under Guy of Lusignan.

- 1521 – The Ottoman Turks occupy Belgrade.

- 1524 – The Kaqchikel Maya rebel against their former Spanish allies during the Spanish conquest of Guatemala.

- 1542 – Turkish–Portuguese War (1538–57): Battle of Wofla: The Portuguese are scattered, their leader Christovão da Gama is captured and later executed.

- 1565 – Pedro Menéndez de Avilés sights land near St. Augustine, Florida and founds the oldest continuously occupied European-established city in the continental United States.

- 1609 – Henry Hudson discovers Delaware Bay.

- 1619 – Election of Ferdinand II, Holy Roman Emperor.

- 1640 – Second Bishop's War: King Charles I's English army loses to a Scottish Covenanter force at the Battle of Newburn.

- 1648 – The Siege of Colchester ends when Royalists Forces surrender to the Parliamentary Forces after eleven weeks, during the Second English Civil War.

- 1709 – Meidingnu Pamheiba is crowned King of Manipur.

- 1789 – William Herschel discovers a new moon of Saturn: Enceladus.

- 1810 – Battle of Grand Port: The French accept the surrender of a British Navy fleet.

- 1830 – The Baltimore and Ohio Railroad's new Tom Thumb steam locomotive races a horse-drawn car, presaging steam's role in US railroads.

- 1833 – The Slavery Abolition Act 1833 receives royal assent, abolishing slavery through most of the British Empire.

- 1845 – The first issue of Scientific American magazine is published.

- 1849 – After a month-long siege, Venice, which had declared itself independent as the Republic of San Marco, surrenders to Austria.

- 1859 – The Carrington event is the strongest geomagnetic storm on record to strike the Earth. Electrical telegraph service is widely disrupted.

- 1861 – American Civil War: Union forces attack Cape Hatteras, North Carolina in the Battle of Hatteras Inlet Batteries which lasts for two days.

- 1862 – American Civil War: Second Battle of Bull Run, also known as the Battle of Second Manassas. The battle ends on August 30.

- 1867 – The United States takes possession of the (at this point unoccupied) Midway Atoll.

- 1879 – Cetshwayo, last king of the Zulus, is captured by the British.

- 1898 – Caleb Bradham's beverage "Brad's Drink" is renamed "Pepsi-Cola".

- 1901 – Silliman University is founded in the Philippines. It is the first American private school in the country.

- 1909 – A group of mid-level Greek Army officers launches the Goudi coup, seeking wide-ranging reforms.

- 1913 – Queen Wilhelmina opens the Peace Palace in The Hague.

- 1914 – World War I: The Royal Navy defeats the German fleet in the Battle of Heligoland Bight.

- 1914 – World War I: German troops take the city of Namur in Belgium.

- 1916 – World War I: Germany declares war on Romania.

- 1916 – World War I: Italy declares war on Germany.

- 1917 – Ten Suffragettes are arrested while picketing the White House.

- 1924 – The Georgian opposition stages the August Uprising against the Soviet Union.

- 1931 – France and the Soviet Union sign a treaty of non-aggression.

- 1937 – Toyota Motors becomes an independent company.

- 1943 – Denmark in World War II: German authorities demand that Danish authorities crack down on acts of resistance. The next day, martial law is imposed on Denmark.

- 1944 – World War II: Marseille and Toulon are liberated.

- 1955 – Black teenager Emmett Till is brutally murdered in Mississippi, galvanizing the nascent Civil Rights Movement.

- 1957 – U.S. Senator Strom Thurmond begins a filibuster to prevent the Senate from voting on Civil Rights Act of 1957; he stopped speaking 24 hours and 18 minutes later, the longest filibuster ever conducted by a single Senator.

- 1963 – March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom: The Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr. gives his I Have a Dream speech

- 1964 – The Philadelphia race riot begins.

- 1968 – Rioting takes place in Chicago during the Democratic National Convention, triggering a brutal police crackdown.

- 1988 – Ramstein air show disaster: Three aircraft of the Frecce Tricolori demonstration team collide and the wreckage falls into the crowd. Seventy-five are killed and 346 seriously injured.

- 1990 – Iraq declares Kuwait to be its newest province.

- 1990 – An F5 tornado strikes the Illinois cities of Plainfield and Joliet, killing 29 people.

- 1993 – The Galileo spacecraft discovers a moon, later named Dactyl, around 243 Ida, the first known asteroid moon.

- 1998 – Pakistan's National Assembly passes a constitutional amendment to make the "Qur'an and Sunnah" the "supreme law" but the bill is defeated in the Senate.

- 1998 – Second Congo War: Loyalist troops backed by Angolan and Zimbabwean forces repulse the RCD and Rwandan offensive on Kinshasa.

[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1749 – Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German novelist, poet, playwright, and diplomat

- 1913 – Lindsay Hassett, Australian cricketer and sportscaster

- 1919 – Godfrey Hounsfield, English biophysicist and engineer Nobel Prize laureate

- 1943 – Surayud Chulanont, Thai general and politician, 24th Prime Minister of Thailand

- 1957 – Ai Weiwei, Chinese sculptor and activist

- 1962 – David Fincher, American director and producer

- 1965 – Shania Twain, Canadian singer-songwriter

- 1965 – Satoshi Tajiri, Japanese video game developer; created Pokémon

- 1968 – Billy Boyd, Scottish actor and singer

- 1969 – Jason Priestley, Canadian actor, director, and producer

- 1982 – LeAnn Rimes, American singer-songwriter and actress

- 1986 – Gilad Shalit, Israeli soldier and hostage

- 2003 – Quvenzhané Wallis, American actress

[/spoiler]

Quote of the day

Never apologize for showing feeling. When you do so, you apologize for the truth.

- Benjamin Disraeli -

Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.

Jaslandia, Andromitus, Percyton, Moldegaard

The Empire Of Handland wrote:It's Huvudman, not Luvudman.

Oh damn, sorry Hand!

The Empire Of Handland, Percyton, Nueva Castilla Real

Andromitus wrote:Oh damn, sorry Hand!

Every time Andy!

Jaslandia, The Vidnoye, Andromitus, Magnatronia, Nueva Castilla Real

Is swearing allowed in the news feed? Like protestors-shouting-into-the-mic-type of stuff

Percyton

Moldegaard wrote:Is swearing allowed in the news feed? Like protestors-shouting-into-the-mic-type of stuff

Considering my news guy dropped the f bomb in one of his segments, yes.

Moldegaard

Nuremgard wrote:https://wingsoverscotland.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Screen-Shot-2017-08-27-at-20.34.13.png

Looks like Corbynmania is really taking over Scotland.

You're telling me the Scottish people don't appreciate a man who didn't even know we had a separate law system but called it problematic anyway?

I AM SHOOK.

Nuremgard

The Empire Of Handland wrote:Every time Andy!

And hey, now you know what it's like having nobody know a major name in your nation!

Jaslandia

Perfect ending to the Game of Thrones finale! The last season cant come fast enough!

Nuremgard wrote:Ugh. Young love.

Tbh me and Tim always wear the promise rings he got us. The only time I take mine off, even, is too shower and I put mine back on when I go to sleep.

Tim is literally the best.

Also I had a reaction like that earlier in my life, honestly. I saw this couple kissin' on the final day of middle school and just quietly intoned to myself "Ah, young love. I hate young love!"

Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia, Percyton

Nuremgard wrote:Perfect ending to the Game of Thrones finale! The last season cant come fast enough!

[spoiler=Spoiler McSpoiler]I wonder what'll happen when the Northerners made a Targaryen their King, who then bent the knee to another Targaryen. [/spoiler]

Sulania wrote:[spoiler=Spoiler McSpoiler]I wonder what'll happen when the Northerners made a Targaryen their King, who then bent the knee to another Targaryen. [/spoiler]

[spoiler]Names should not matter. Jon's good character should supersede any qualms they have about his family name. Just think: he had sex with his aunt. I think she'll end up pregnant to him. Carrying on the family tradition. :P[/spoiler]

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