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Nuremgard wrote:The desks also feature voting buttons and buttons which alert the Presiding Officer to who wants to speak in the chamber.

We have that here as well. But the government does not use them on the grounds of democracy. Dοn't quite get that

Nuremgard

Cesorion wrote:We have that here as well. But the government does not use them on the grounds of democracy. Dοn't quite get that

What a stupid, vague excuse.

Nuremgard wrote:What a stupid, vague excuse.

I know.

http://www.tovima.gr/files/1/2012/10/09/synedriasewn.jpg

The chamber

Nuremgard

Nuremgard wrote:Eh, electronic voting is quicker and easier.

But can be manipulated.

Cesorion wrote:I know.

http://www.tovima.gr/files/1/2012/10/09/synedriasewn.jpg

The chamber

I love how it looks.

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:But can be manipulated.

Every voting system can be manipulated.

Penguania And Antarctica, Cesorion

Nuremgard wrote:1.I love how it looks.

2.Every voting system can be manipulated.

1. I hate it

2. Agreed

Nuremgard

Nuremgard wrote:I love how it looks.

Every voting system can be manipulated.

True.

One politician over here once said:

"People often complain about the slowness of democracy. But it's that slow pace that leads to reasonable and beneficial decisions. It might be quicker to get a new law within 2 months rather than a year but I doubt that a quick decision covers all aspects and effects this new law will have. And of course it's a security mechanism to make it harder for extremist policies."

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Cesorion wrote:1. I hate it

2. Agreed

Why do you hate it? And is the Greek legislature bicameral or unicameral?

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:True.

One politician over here once said:

"People often complain about the slowness of democracy. But it's that slow pace that leads to reasonable and beneficial decisions. It might be quicker to get a new law within 2 months rather than a year but I doubt that a quick decision covers all aspects and effects this new law will have. And of course it's a security mechanism to make it harder for extremist policies."

Only dictatorships make quick decisions.

Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:Why do you hate it? And is the Greek legislature bicameral or unicameral?

Only dictatorships make quick decisions.

Uni, thankfully. I prefer Westminster style, or at least Scottish design. Why have elevated seats for Government ministers? And make that 300 MPs 150 immediately

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:Why do you hate it? And is the Greek legislature bicameral or unicameral?

Only dictatorships make quick decisions.

I'm always amazed by our parliament how they manage to give future and therefore unknown governments as less power as possible, always with the thought in mind: "We don't know what a future goverment will do with those powers."

Nuremgard, Axeldonia, Cesorion

Cesorion wrote:Uni, thankfully. I prefer Westminster style, or at least Scottish design. Why have elevated seats for Government ministers? And make that 300 MPs 150 immediately

I am fine having a uni parliament because Scotland is a relatively small country. We don't really need a second chamber. Plus, the House of Lords is a f*cking joke. Over 800 peers, some of whom are hereditary, all of whom are party cronies. Most of whom who don't attend or when they do go, they go just to claim allowances and expenses. And there are seats for bishops.

The UK is ridiculous.

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:I'm always amazed by our parliament how they manage to give future and therefore unknown governments as less power as possible, always with the thought in mind: "We don't know what a future goverment will do with those powers."

At least your politicians govern with foresight.

Penguania And Antarctica, Cesorion

Nuremgard wrote:At least your politicians govern with foresight.

For example (fictional): France gets a new anti-terror law which allows random searches of property without warrants.

Some German politicians get the idea: "Hey that's cool. Let's do that too." But they didn't expect the opposition and the foresightedness of the other members of parliament.

First:

Basic Law and the code of criminal procedure don't allow searches without a judicial order. Even if there were exigent circumstances to do a search without a warrant a judicial order must still bet gotten as soon as possible after the search. If the judge says that there weren't exigent circumstances then there is an exclusion of evidence obtained during the search.

(Note: Change of the Basic Law would require a 2/3 majority of the Bundestag and 2/3 majority of the Bundesrat)

Second:

Such a law would be a powerful instrument for a future government. Todays government might be just and alright but a future government might use those powers to cement their rule and to intimidate unliked citizens.

Conclusion: No, we don't do this.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:For example (fictional): France gets a new anti-terror law which allows random searches of property without warrants.

Some German politicians get the idea: "Hey that's cool. Let's do that too." But they didn't expect the opposition and the foresightedness of the other members of parliament.

First:

Basic Law and the code of criminal procedure don't allow searches without a judicial order. Even if there were exigent circumstances to do a search without a warrant a judicial order must still bet gotten as soon as possible after the search. If the judge says that there weren't exigent circumstances then there is an exclusion of evidence obtained during the search.

(Note: Change of the Basic Law would require a 2/3 majority of the Bundestag and 2/3 majority of the Bundesrat)

Second:

Such a law would be a powerful instrument for a future government. Todays government might be just and alright but a future government might use those powers to cement their rule and to intimidate unliked citizens.

Conclusion: No, we don't do this.

Germans learn from history. Many others don't.

Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:Germans learn from history. Many others don't.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

- George Santayana -

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Cesorion

Another question about parliaments:

Are the ushers in your national parliaments?

Like people that bring the orators a glass of waters, bring MP's documents when they are in the assembly room or inform them about calls for them, and organize the other parliamentary stuff.

Germany has ushers. You can easily recongnize them because of their livery:

http://media1.faz.net/ppmedia/video/648927318/1.720865/default/saaldiener-tragen.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Bundestagsfrack-vorn.jpg

And I know that the EU parliament has ushers:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEU71yKUEAAJjWB.jpg

Nuremgard

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Another question about parliaments:

Are the ushers in your national parliaments?

Like people that bring the orators a glass of waters, bring MP's documents when they are in the assembly room or inform them about calls for them, and organize the other parliamentary stuff.

Germany has ushers. You can easily recongnize them because of their livery:

http://media1.faz.net/ppmedia/video/648927318/1.720865/default/saaldiener-tragen.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Bundestagsfrack-vorn.jpg

And I know that the EU parliament has ushers:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEU71yKUEAAJjWB.jpg

I don't think we have anything like that here, not even in poncy Westminster.

Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:I don't think we have anything like that here, not even in poncy Westminster.

Oh okay. I thought the UK could have some since there is a lot support for pomp, traditons and (useless) ceremonial positions.

Nuremgard

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Oh okay. I thought the UK could have some since there is a lot support for pomp, traditons and (useless) ceremonial positions.

I'm surprised it doesn't.

Penguania And Antarctica

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Another question about parliaments:

Are the ushers in your national parliaments?

Like people that bring the orators a glass of waters, bring MP's documents when they are in the assembly room or inform them about calls for them, and organize the other parliamentary stuff.

Germany has ushers. You can easily recongnize them because of their livery:

http://media1.faz.net/ppmedia/video/648927318/1.720865/default/saaldiener-tragen.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Bundestagsfrack-vorn.jpg

And I know that the EU parliament has ushers:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEU71yKUEAAJjWB.jpg

We do, but they wear ordinary suits.

My turn to ask

Do orators use the microphones at their desks when they speak or a rostrum of some sort (or both)?

In Greece you use your seat, unless you are a party leader or you have more than 7 minutes time

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica

Cesorion wrote:We do, but they wear ordinary suits.

My turn to ask

Do orators use the microphones at their desks when they speak or a rostrum of some sort (or both)?

In Greece you use your seat, unless you are a party leader or you have more than 7 minutes time

Scottish politicians speak from their desks.

Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:Scottish politicians speak from their desks.

I know. I think Holyrood doesn't have a podium

Cesorion wrote:We do, but they wear ordinary suits.

My turn to ask

Do orators use the microphones at their desks when they speak or a rostrum of some sort (or both)?

In Greece you use your seat, unless you are a party leader or you have more than 7 minutes time

In the British Parliament you stand up to speak or you approach the dispatch box if you're a front bencher. The parliament has a selection of microphones hanging from the ceiling to collect noise

Cesorion

Cesorion wrote:I know. I think Holyrood doesn't have a podium

The only podium is for the Presiding Officer who sits above them all in the chamber.

Unfallious wrote:In the British Parliament you stand up to speak or you approach the dispatch box if you're a front bencher. The parliament has a selection of microphones hanging from the ceiling to collect noise

And not enough space for them to sit.

Cesorion

Unfallious wrote:In the British Parliament you stand up to speak or you approach the dispatch box if you're a front bencher. The parliament has a selection of microphones hanging from the ceiling to collect noise

Yes.

Out of topic.1. What happens with MoJ candidate?

2. What happens if all candidates are the sole ones running for their officd?

Cesorion wrote:Yes.

Out of topic.1. What happens with MoJ candidate?

2. What happens if all candidates are the sole ones running for their officd?

Ministers don't run for office. When a party takes power, elected MPs are chosen by the PM to fill their cabinet.

Nuremgard wrote:Ministers don't run for office. When a party takes power, elected MPs are chosen by the PM to fill their cabinet.

I meant the CoFN election. That is why I said out of topic.

Cesorion wrote:I meant the CoFN election. That is why I said out of topic.

Oh, sorry.

Cesorion wrote:Yes.

Out of topic.1. What happens with MoJ candidate?

2. What happens if all candidates are the sole ones running for their officd?

1. An absent office is not something I planned for in the constitution, and as such there is no codified solution to the problem. I presume that the Chancellor, as the head of the Cabinet, will operate as a temporary MoJ with a by-election being held in the meantime in an attempt to fill the bloody office.

2. We skip the election because it's uncontested and all candidates take office tonight, presumably.

Cesorion

Cesorion wrote:We do, but they wear ordinary suits.

My turn to ask

Do orators use the microphones at their desks when they speak or a rostrum of some sort (or both)?

In Greece you use your seat, unless you are a party leader or you have more than 7 minutes time

There is a rostrum and you have to use it if you give a speech. But if you have a interposed question to the orator then you can speak from your desk.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/Deutscher_Bundestag_Plenarsaal_Seitenansicht.jpg

Jaslandia

Nuova Constidor wrote:https://www.wikihow.com/Breed-Syrian-Hamsters

inb4 Trump bans them for being 'Syrian refugees'.

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:There is a rostrum and you have to use it if you give a speech. But if you have a interposed question to the orator then you can speak from your desk.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/Deutscher_Bundestag_Plenarsaal_Seitenansicht.jpg

Purple chairs? Interesting design choice...

Penguania And Antarctica, Nuova Constidor

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:There is a rostrum and you have to use it if you give a speech. But if you have a interposed question to the orator then you can speak from your desk.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/Deutscher_Bundestag_Plenarsaal_Seitenansicht.jpg

you can tell Germany is really into the EU because they keep a flag of it in their Parliament

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:inb4 Trump bans them for being 'Syrian refugees'.

Purple chairs? Interesting design choice...

Well they are a blueish. But depending on the light and everything sometimes they look blue or more purpleish.

Here they look blue:

https://image.stern.de/7027184/16x9-940-529/eb8e9b46f814727a60ec6d225fbc77dc/QF/bundestag.jpg

Jaslandia

Unfallious wrote:you can tell Germany is really into the EU because they keep a flag of it in their Parliament

The EU anthem is also played after the German anthem at the end of the solemn pledge ceremony of new soldiers.

Axeldonia

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:The EU anthem is also played after the German anthem at the end of the solemn pledge ceremony of new soldiers.

Europeans on the continent have always been more committed to the EU. Many of the English have always hated it.

Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

Unfallious wrote:you can tell Germany is really into the EU because they keep a flag of it in their Parliament

Oh and the EU flag is hoisted next to the German federal and state flag on every public building that is flagged.

Palace of the President:

http://www.metropolen.de/media/berlin/fotos/schloss-bellevue_1_990x330.jpg

Chancellor's Office:

https://www.protokoll-inland.de/SharedDocs/Bilder/PI/DE/Beflaggung/Beflaggungskalender/kanzleramt.jpg?__blob=poster&v=2

State Parliament of North Rhine-Westwphalia:

https://www.welt.de/img/politik/deutschland/mobile138770718/9122502347-ci102l-w1024/Germanwings-A320-abgestuerzt-Halbmast-Landtag.jpg

and so on ...

Nuremgard

Nuremgard wrote:Europeans on the continent have always been more committed to the EU. Many of the English have always hated it.

Maybe because we aren't as isolated as the British on their island(s).

Nuremgard, Axeldonia

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:The EU anthem is also played after the German anthem at the end of the solemn pledge ceremony of new soldiers.

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Oh and the EU flag is hoisted next to the German federal and state flag on every public building that is flagged.

Palace of the President:

http://www.metropolen.de/media/berlin/fotos/schloss-bellevue_1_990x330.jpg

Chancellor's Office:

https://www.goruma.de/export/sites/www.goruma.de/Globale_Inhalte/Bilder/Content/B/Berlin/Berlin_besondere_Gebaeude_Bundeskanzleramt_1600.jpg

State Parliament of North Rhine-Westwphalia:

https://www.welt.de/img/politik/deutschland/mobile138770718/9122502347-ci102l-w1024/Germanwings-A320-abgestuerzt-Halbmast-Landtag.jpg

and so on ...

Yunno, being the awkward child of the EU, you forget how serious it's mantra of 'ever-closer union' is. The EU is playing the slow game, but I could see the formation of a superstate within my lifetime, certainly.

Penguania And Antarctica

Unfallious wrote:you can tell Germany is really into the EU because they keep a flag of it in their Parliament

Hey. We do that to

https://www.esos.gr/sites/default/files/article-listing-images/boylh_111_0.jpg

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Maybe because we aren't as isolated as the British on their island(s).

Britain is an island nation and had an empire. It didn't like a union it couldn't dominate. It hated being an equal.

Unfallious wrote:Yunno, being the awkward child of the EU, you forget how serious it's mantra of 'ever-closer union' is. The EU is playing the slow game, but I could see the formation of a superstate within my lifetime, certainly.

I don't believe this is true. Europe is too nationalistic for that to ever happen. People would not stand for having their national identities erased.

Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:Britain is an island nation and had an empire. It didn't like a union it couldn't dominate. It hated being an equal.

I don't believe this is true. Europe is too nationalistic for that to ever happen. People would not stand for having their national identities erased.

Yunno, I think the erasure argument is an exaggeration. I don't think the European continent will ever become a big homogenous culture. Much like how the US differs from 'sea to shining sea' in its culture with a Texan and a Minnesotan identifying with different state identities. I could see the same being said for a Euro-superstate. France would still be France even if, instead of it being a state, it was instead a subdomain of a larger European state.

I don't think they'll ever be a day when a Euro-state is proclaimed. I think, through a series of treatise we'll eventually just have a European state under the name of the European Union in which each state has its own regional government subservient to a larger European government. It's not difficult to see the foundations of that developing now even with a surface knowledge of the EU.

Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:The EU anthem is also played after the German anthem at the end of the solemn pledge ceremony of new soldiers.

Nuremgard wrote:Europeans on the continent have always been more committed to the EU. Many of the English have always hated it.

Unfallious wrote:Yunno, being the awkward child of the EU, you forget how serious it's mantra of 'ever-closer union' is. The EU is playing the slow game, but I could see the formation of a superstate within my lifetime, certainly.

I think a sticking issue would be the military, honestly. The cost of standardizing (And boost to one state's industry from it) is astronomical.

Unfallious wrote:Yunno, I think the erasure argument is an exaggeration. I don't think the European continent will ever become a big homogenous culture. Much like how the US differs from 'sea to shining sea' in its culture with a Texan and a Minnesotan identifying with different state identities. I could see the same being said for a Euro-superstate. France would still be France even if, instead of it being a state, it was instead a subdomain of a larger European state.

I don't think they'll ever be a day when a Euro-state is proclaimed. I think, through a series of treatise we'll eventually just have a European state under the name of the European Union in which each state has its own regional government subservient to a larger European government. It's not difficult to see the foundations of that developing now even with a surface knowledge of the EU.

Oddly enough, even if that did happen, I would not be entirely opposed to it.

Nuremgard wrote:Oddly enough, even if that did happen, I would not be entirely opposed to it.

Yeah, totally. I mean, the EU needs to be refined a fvck-tonne, and it needs major reforms. But I, for one, would love the emergence of a properly liberal democratic superpower to counterbalance the illiberal Chinese and the what-the-fvckery of the US.

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica

Unfallious wrote:Yeah, totally. I mean, the EU needs to be refined a fvck-tonne, and it needs major reforms. But I, for one, would love the emergence of a properly liberal democratic superpower to counterbalance the illiberal Chinese and the what-the-fvckery of the US.

On that we definitely agree. But to be honest with you, I've been having second thoughts about the EU. If Scotland becomes independent, I think I'd prefer a Norway arrangement. The way in which the EU has allowed Spain to behave recently in relation to Catalonia does not give me hope for liberal democracy in Europe.

Nuremgard wrote:On that we definitely agree. But to be honest with you, I've been having second thoughts about the EU. If Scotland becomes independent, I think I'd prefer a Norway arrangement. The way in which the EU has allowed Spain to behave recently in relation to Catalonia does not give me hope for liberal democracy in Europe.

Being part of the EU but having no say in its legislature and governance? The Norway arrangement looks like a net lose-lose to me unless there's something I don't know about.

In regards to Catalonia, I think the EU's hands are tied in that regard, precedent has been set that separatist states do not get access to the EU if they leave which would mean that Catalonia separating would not only hurt Spain's economy it would damage the wider EU economy and thus the economies of other member states who are forced to support the Spanish.

The EU probably could've done a lot more to mediate the situation, but really, why would they? They want the same as Spain and to support Catalonia would be akin to the US federal government supporting Canada over Maine. If you look at the EU from the perspective of a federal government taking a stance on a regional dispute it begins to make a lot more sense as to why they acted the way they did.

Could it have been better? Yeah. Do I blame them for acting the way they did? Not at all, nor do I hold it as a representation of the wider EU system

Penguania And Antarctica

Unfallious wrote:Being part of the EU but having no say in its legislature and governance? The Norway arrangement looks like a net lose-lose to me unless there's something I don't know about.

In regards to Catalonia, I think the EU's hands are tied in that regard, precedent has been set that separatist states do not get access to the EU if they leave which would mean that Catalonia separating would not only hurt Spain's economy it would damage the wider EU economy and thus the economies of other member states who are forced to support the Spanish.

The EU probably could've done a lot more to mediate the situation, but really, why would they? They want the same as Spain and to support Catalonia would be akin to the US federal government supporting Canada over Maine. If you look at the EU from the perspective of a federal government taking a stance on a regional dispute it begins to make a lot more sense as to why they acted the way they did.

Could it have been better? Yeah. Do I blame them for acting the way they did? Not at all, nor do I hold it as a representation of the wider EU system

I dunno....I mean I am on the fence right now. Besides, being taken out the EU is the whole reason why we up here are gonna' have a second ref. And the economics make sense. I guess being in would be better than out.

Nuremgard wrote:I dunno....I mean I am on the fence right now. Besides, being taken out the EU is the whole reason why we up here are gonna' have a second ref. And the economics make sense. I guess being in would be better than out.

The EU has a tendency to dominate smaller states, so your apprehensions are understandable, but I think if you're going for membership it's only right to go for full membership so the Scottish state can at least have its say.

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica

Unfallious wrote:The EU has a tendency to dominate smaller states, so your apprehensions are understandable, but I think if you're going for membership it's only right to go for full membership so the Scottish state can at least have its say.

You're right. We'd have a veto at least, and a say. Scotland could be like the many other small states in Europe. Keeping itself to itself and constructively working for a better world within the EU.

Unfallious

Unfallious

Btw. You can also see that Germany is into the EU by looking on our constitution:

[spoiler=Article 23 of the Basic Law for the Federal Republic of Germany]

Article 23

[European Union – Protection of basic rights – Principle of subsidiarity]

(1) With a view to establishing a united Europe, the Federal Republic of Germany shall participate in the development of the European Union that is committed to democratic, social and federal principles, to the rule of law, and to the principle of subsidiarity, and that guarantees a level of protection of basic rights essentially comparable to that afforded by this Basic Law. To this end the Federation may transfer sovereign powers by a law with the consent of the Bundesrat. The establishment of the European Union, as well as changes in its treaty foundations and comparable regulations that amend or supplement this Basic Law, or make such amendments or supplements possible, shall be subject to paragraphs (2) and (3) of Article 79.

(1a) The Bundestag and the Bundesrat shall have the right to bring an action before the Court of Justice of the European Union to challenge a legislative act of the European Union for infringing the principle of subsidiarity. The Bundestag is obliged to initiate such an action at the request of one fourth of its Members. By a statute requiring the consent of the Bundesrat, exceptions from the first sentence of paragraph (2) of Article 42, and the first sentence of paragraph (3) of Article 52, may be authorised for the exercise of the rights granted to the Bundestag and the Bundesrat under the contractual foundations of the European Union.

(2) The Bundestag and, through the Bundesrat, the Länder shall participate in matters concerning the European Union. The Federal Government shall keep the Bundestag and the Bundesrat informed, comprehensively and at the earliest possible time.

(3) Before participating in legislative acts of the European Union, the Federal Government shall provide the Bundestag with an opportunity to state its position. The Federal Government shall take the position of the Bundestag into account during the negotiations. Details shall be regulated by a law.

(4) The Bundesrat shall participate in the decision-making process of the Federation insofar as it would have been competent to do so in a comparable domestic matter, or insofar as the subject falls within the domestic competence of the Länder.

(5) Insofar as, in an area within the exclusive competence of the Federation, interests of the Länder are affected, and in other matters, insofar as the Federation has legislative power, the Federal Government shall take the position of the Bundesrat into account. To the extent that the legislative powers of the Länder, the structure of Land authorities, or Land administrative procedures are primarily affected, the position of the Bundesrat shall be given the greatest possible respect in determining the Federation’s position consistent with the responsibility of the Federation for the nation as a whole. In matters that may result in increased expenditures or reduced revenues for the Federation, the consent of the Federal Government shall be required.

(6) When legislative powers exclusive to the Länder concerning matters of school education, culture or broadcasting are primarily affected, the exercise of the rights belonging to the Federal Republic of Germany as a member state of the European Union shall be delegated by the Federation to a representative of the Länder designated by the Bundesrat. These rights shall be exercised with the participation of, and in coordination with, the Federal Government; their exercise shall be consistent with the responsibility of the Federation for the nation as a whole.

(7) Details regarding paragraphs (4) to (6) of this Article shall be regulated by a law requiring the consent of the Bundesrat.

[/spoiler]

Nuremgard

Nuremgard wrote:Hey, man. Your Falangist friend New Salvatore is taking a new direction. We are going to have a monarchy which will be one of the tenets of Salvatorian nationalism, along with the church and the Caudillo/Party.

So something like a Theocratic Monarchy? Well good like with that Salvatore, i hope it will help you achieve your goals.

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica

Spanelsko wrote:So something like a Theocratic Monarchy? Well good like with that Salvatore, i hope it will help you achieve your goals.

Thank you, brother.

Penguania And Antarctica

I must say that pheasants are beautiful birds:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/Pheasant.jpg

Nuremgard, Kalaron, Percyton

[spoiler=Today is November 4 and today are:]

Today is November 4 and today are:

- Children's Day (South Africa)

- Citizenship Day (Northern Mariana Islands)

- Common Sense Day

- Community Service Day (Dominica)

- Day of St Charles Borromeu (Andorra)

- Flag Day (Panama)

- Guru Nanak Jayanti (India)

- King Tut Day

- Health Day (Turkmenistan)

- National Bison Day (United States)

- National Candy Day (United States)

- National Chicken Lady Day (United States)

- National Tonga Day (Tonga)

- National Unity and Armed Forces Day or Giorno dell'Unità Nazionale e Festa delle Forze Armate (Italy)

- Unity Day (Russia)

- World Numbat Day

- Yitzhak Rabin Memorial

[/spoiler]

[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 1429 – Armagnac–Burgundian Civil War: Joan of Arc liberates Saint-Pierre-le-Moûtier.

- 1501 – Catherine of Aragon (later Henry VIII's first wife) meets Arthur Tudor, Henry VIII's older brother – they would later marry.

- 1576 – Eighty Years' War: In Flanders, Spain captures Antwerp (after three days the city is nearly destroyed).

- 1677 – The future Mary II of England marries William, Prince of Orange; they later jointly reign as William and Mary.

- 1737 – The Teatro di San Carlo is inaugurated.

- 1780 – The Rebellion of Túpac Amaru II against Spanish rule in the Viceroyalty of Peru begins.

- 1783 – Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart's Symphony No. 36 is performed for the first time in Linz, Austria.

- 1791 – The Western Confederacy of American Indians wins a major victory over the United States in the Battle of the Wabash.

- 1798 – Beginning of the Russo-Ottoman siege of Corfu.

- 1839 – Newport Rising: The last large-scale armed rebellion against authority in mainland Britain.

- 1847 – Sir James Young Simpson, a Scottish physician, discovers the anaesthetic properties of chloroform.

- 1852 – Camillo Benso, Count of Cavour becomes the prime minister of Piedmont-Sardinia, which soon expands to become Italy.

- 1864 – American Civil War: Battle of Johnsonville: Confederate troops bombard a Union supply base and destroy millions of dollars in material.

- 1868 – Camagüey, Cuba revolts against Spain during the Ten Years' War.

- 1890 – City and South London Railway: London's first deep-level tube railway opens between King William Street and Stockwell.

- 1912 – First Balkan War: The First Battle of Çatalca begins - an attempt by Bulgaria to break through the last defensive line before the Turkish capital Constantinople.

- 1918 – World War I: The Armistice of Villa Giusti between Italy and Austria-Hungary is implemented.

- 1921 – The Saalschutz Abteilung (hall defense detachment) of the Nazi Party is renamed the Sturmabteilung (storm detachment) after a large riot in Munich.

- 1921 – Japanese Prime Minister Hara Takashi is assassinated in Tokyo.

- 1922 – In Egypt, British archaeologist Howard Carter and his men find the entrance to Tutankhamun's tomb in the Valley of the Kings.

- 1924 – Nellie Tayloe Ross of Wyoming is elected the first female governor in the United States.

- 1924 – Calvin Coolidge wins a full term as President of the United States.

- 1939 – World War II: U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt orders the United States Customs Service to implement the Neutrality Act of 1939, allowing cash-and-carry purchases of weapons by belligerents.

- 1942 – World War II: Second Battle of El Alamein: Disobeying a direct order by Adolf Hitler, General Field Marshal Erwin Rommel leads his forces on a five-month retreat.

- 1944 – World War II: Bitola Liberation Day

- 1952 – The United States government establishes the National Security Agency, or NSA.

- 1952 – Dwight D. Eisenhower is elected the 34th President of the United States.

- 1956 – Soviet troops enter Hungary to end the Hungarian revolution against the Soviet Union, that started on October 23. Thousands are killed, more are wounded, and nearly a quarter million leave the country.

- 1960 – At the Kasakela Chimpanzee Community in Tanzania, Dr Jane Goodall observes chimpanzees creating tools, the first-ever observation in non-human animals.

- 1962 – The United States concludes Operation Fishbowl, its final above-ground nuclear weapons testing series, in anticipation of the 1963 Partial Nuclear Test Ban Treaty.

- 1966 – The Arno River floods Florence, Italy, to a maximum depth of 6.7 m (22 ft), leaving thousands homeless and destroying millions of masterpieces of art and rare books. Also Venice was submerged on the same day at its record all-time acqua alta of 194 cm.

- 1970 – Vietnam War: Vietnamization: The United States turns control of the air base at Bình Thủy in the Mekong Delta over to South Vietnam.

- 1970 – Salvador Allende takes office as President of Chile, the first Marxist to become president of a Latin American country through open elections.

- 1973 – The Netherlands experiences the first Car-Free Sunday caused by the 1973 oil crisis. Highways are used only by cyclists and roller skaters.

- 1979 – Iran hostage crisis: A mob of Iranians, mostly students, overruns the US embassy in Tehran and takes 90 hostages (53 of whom are American).

- 1980 – Ronald Reagan is elected the 40th President of The United States, defeating incumbent Jimmy Carter.

- 1993 – China Airlines Flight 605, a brand new 747-400, overruns the runway at Kai Tak Airport.

- 1995 – Israeli prime minister Yitzhak Rabin is assassinated by an extremist Israeli.

- 2002 – Chinese authorities arrest cyber-dissident He Depu for signing a pro-democracy letter to the 16th Communist Party Congress.

- 2008 – Barack Obama becomes the first person of biracial or African-American descent to be elected President of the United States.

- 2010 – Aero Caribbean Flight 883 crashes into Guasimal, Sancti Spíritus. All 68 passengers and crew were killed.

- 2010 – Qantas Flight 32, an Airbus A380, suffers an uncontained engine failure over Indonesia shortly after taking off from Singapore, crippling the jet. The crew manage to safely return to Singapore, saving all 469 passengers and crew.

- 2015 – A cargo plane crashes shortly after takeoff from Juba International Airport in Juba, South Sudan, killing 37 people.

- 2015 – A building collapses in the Pakistani city of Lahore resulting in at least 45 deaths, at least 100 injured.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1890 - Klabund, German author and poet

- 1897 - Kurt Held, German author

- 1908 - Joseph Rotblat, Polish-English physicist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1916 - Walter Cronkite, American journalist, voice actor, and producer

- 1916 - Ruth Handler, American businesswoman, created Barbie

- 1918 - Art Carney, American actor

- 1919 - Martin Balsam, American actor, director, and screenwriter

- 1925 - Doris Roberts, American actress

- 1932 - Thomas Klestil, Austrian politician and diplomat, 10th President of Austria

- 1933 - Charles K. Kao, Chinese physicist and engineer, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1946 - Laura Bush, American educator and librarian, 45th First Lady of the United States

- 1951 - Traian Basescu, Romanian captain and politician, 4th President of Romania

- 1957 - Tony Abbott, English-Australian scholar and politician, 28th Prime Minister of Australia

- 1960 - Kathy Griffin, American comedian and actress

- 1969 - Matthew McConaughey, American actor and producer

- 1969 - Sean Combs, American rapper, producer, and actor

- 1972 - Luis Figo, Portuguese footballer and sportscaster

[/spoiler]

Quote of the day

If you want to kill any idea in the world, get a committee working on it.

- Charles Kettering -

Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.

Jaslandia, Andromitus, Kalaron, Percyton

China go home you're a bad may-may

https://www.popsci.com/futuristic-chinese-warship-concept-is-making-waves

Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

Kalaron wrote:China go home you're a bad may-may

https://www.popsci.com/futuristic-chinese-warship-concept-is-making-waves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqD0jAsegCo

Jaslandia, Percyton

Peng, is this accurate?

“All ze jobs are VHERE?!” General Von Gugelheimer lets out a piercing scream. “Zose Bigtopians and zeir business friends need to remember vhich is ze better country! Never mind zat ze businesses at fault are based out of Minnesota Dakota. Let’s blow zose Bigtopians off ze map! Double ze military’s size, and ve von’t have to vorry about zem anymore. Trade vill take a hit, but isn’t ZE POWER vorth it? Hahaha... HAHAHAHA!”

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton, Spanelsko

What does the MoJ do again? Because I am tempted to run for that office.

Jaslandia, Percyton

Minnesota Dakota wrote:Peng, is this accurate?

“All ze jobs are VHERE?!” General Von Gugelheimer lets out a piercing scream. “Zose Bigtopians and zeir business friends need to remember vhich is ze better country! Never mind zat ze businesses at fault are based out of Minnesota Dakota. Let’s blow zose Bigtopians off ze map! Double ze military’s size, and ve von’t have to vorry about zem anymore. Trade vill take a hit, but isn’t ZE POWER vorth it? Hahaha... HAHAHAHA!”

Sounds like one of my former classmates when he tries to speak English. :D

Jaslandia, Andromitus, Minnesota Dakota, Percyton

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqD0jAsegCo

Pretty much, but with the added effect of being militarily worshiped by some people who don't get the military while they blindly flail about with propaganda ://

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:What does the MoJ do again? Because I am tempted to run for that office.

V. The Minister of Justice has the key responsibility of providing critical legal advice to the Cabinet and serving as the region’s chief prosecutor. The Minister of Justice is also tasked with carrying out punishments given out by the judiciary and supervising the Constabulary. Border control and communications rights are given to the Minister of Justice.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton, Cesorion

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:What does the MoJ do again? Because I am tempted to run for that office.

Mainly serves as the chief legal representative of the government, carries out the punishments and sentences ordered by the judiciary, and oversees the Constabulary.

Percyton, Cesorion

Kalaron wrote:Pretty much, but with the added effect of being militarily worshiped by some people who don't get the military while they blindly flail about with propaganda ://

V. The Minister of Justice has the key responsibility of providing critical legal advice to the Cabinet and serving as the region’s chief prosecutor. The Minister of Justice is also tasked with carrying out punishments given out by the judiciary and supervising the Constabulary. Border control and communications rights are given to the Minister of Justice.

Jaslandia wrote:Mainly serves as the chief legal representative of the government, carries out the punishments and sentences ordered by the judiciary, and oversees the Constabulary.

The Confederate Papers / Unfallious I hereby official declare my candidacy for the position as Minister of Justice.

Jaslandia, Andromitus, Oelesa, Kalaron, Minnesota Dakota, Yukona, Percyton, Cesorion, South Hyder

I'm making a smart yet reckless decision and running for Minister of Internal Affairs, as the incumbent.

Jaslandia, Au Minbo, Lex Caledonia, Percyton

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/233369021632872448/376592911711862785/Mar-21-Cruise-unedited.jpg

>:>

The text is bubble-gum pink for extra gay

Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica

Kalaron wrote:https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/233369021632872448/376592911711862785/Mar-21-Cruise-unedited.jpg

>:>

The text is bubble-gum pink for extra gay

You have 10 out of 10 MS Paint skills.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_confederacy_general/page=display_region_rmb?postid=27962972#p27962972

Got bored and made a little post on the USF Rangers in Tadjoura

Percyton

Vista Major wrote:I'm making a smart yet reckless decision and running for Minister of Internal Affairs, as the incumbent.

No offense, but I support Lex

Lex Caledonia

Vista Major wrote:I'm making a smart yet reckless decision and running for Minister of Internal Affairs, as the incumbent.

Good luck my man!

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton, Cesorion

Good luck to the people in the Chancellor race, with so many running for the same office it's so great seeing democracy work to its full extent!

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova, Percyton, Cesorion

Yukona wrote:Good luck to the people in the Chancellor race, with so many running for the same office it's so great seeing democracy work to its full extent!

Only Hyder is running for Chancellor. He's acclaimed

Edit: It is irony, right?

Mercunova

Drugs!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=911500

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Post self-deleted by Nuova Constidor.

[spoiler=Today is November 5 and today are:]

Today is November 5 and today are:

- Bank Transfer Day (United States)

- Colón Day (Panama)

- End of Daylight Saving Time (United States)

- Guy Fawkes Day/Night or Bonfire Night(United Kingdom, New Zealand and Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada)

- Kanakadasa Jayanthi (Karnataka, India)

- National Doughnut Day (United States)

- National Love Your Red Hair Day (United States)

- Orphan Sunday

- West Country Carnival (English West Country)

- Zero Tasking Day

[/spoiler]

[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 1138 – Lý Anh Tông is enthroned as emperor of Vietnam at the age of two, beginning a 37-year reign.

- 1499 – Publication of the Catholicon, written in 1464 by Jehan Lagadeuc in Tréguier; this is the first Breton dictionary as well as the first French dictionary.

- 1605 – Gunpowder Plot: Guy Fawkes is arrested.

- 1688 – William III of England lands with a Dutch fleet at Brixham.

- 1757 – Seven Years' War: Frederick the Great defeats the allied armies of France and the Holy Roman Empire at the Battle of Rossbach.

- 1768 – Treaty of Fort Stanwix, the purpose of which is to adjust the boundary line between Indian lands and white settlements set forth in the Royal Proclamation of 1763 in the Thirteen Colonies.

- 1780 – French-American forces under Colonel LaBalme are defeated by Miami Chief Little Turtle.

- 1811 – Salvadoran priest José Matías Delgado, rings the bells of La Merced church in San Salvador, calling for insurrection and launching the 1811 Independence Movement.

- 1828 – Greek War of Independence: The French Morea expedition to recapture Morea (now the Peloponnese) ends when the last Ottoman forces depart the peninsula.

- 1829 – Technical University of Denmark (DTU) opens.

- 1831 – Nat Turner, American slave leader, is tried, convicted, and sentenced to death in Virginia.

- 1862 – American Civil War: Abraham Lincoln removes George B. McClellan as commander of the Army of the Potomac.

- 1862 – American Indian Wars: In Minnesota, 303 Dakota warriors are found guilty of rape and murder of whites and are sentenced to hang. 38 are ultimately executed and the others reprieved.

- 1872 – Women's suffrage in the United States: In defiance of the law, suffragist Susan B. Anthony votes for the first time, and is later fined $100.

- 1895 – George B. Selden is granted the first U.S. patent for an automobile.

- 1898 – Filipinos on Negros Island revolt against Spanish rule and establish the short-lived Republic of Negros.

- 1911 – After declaring war on the Ottoman Empire on September 29, 1911, Italy annexes Tripoli and Cyrenaica.

- 1912 – Woodrow Wilson is elected the 28th President of the United States, defeating incumbent William Howard Taft.

- 1913 – King Otto of Bavaria is deposed by his cousin, Prince Regent Ludwig, who assumes the title Ludwig III.

- 1914 – World War I: France and the British Empire declare war on the Ottoman Empire.

- 1916 – The Kingdom of Poland is proclaimed by the Act of 5th November of the emperors of Germany and Austria-Hungary.

- 1916 – The Everett massacre takes place in Everett, Washington as political differences lead to a shoot-out between the Industrial Workers of the World organizers and local police.

- 1917 – October Revolution: In Tallinn, Estonia, Communist leader Jaan Anvelt leads revolutionaries in overthrowing the Provisional Government (As Estonia and Russia are still using the Julian calendar, subsequent period references show an October 23 date).

- 1917 – Tikhon is elected the Patriarch of Moscow and of the Russian Orthodox Church.

- 1925 – Secret agent Sidney Reilly, the first "super-spy" of the 20th century, is executed by the OGPU, the secret police of the Soviet Union.

- 1940 – World War II: The British armed merchant cruiser, HMS Jervis Bay, is sunk by the German pocket battleship Admiral Scheer.

- 1940 – Franklin D. Roosevelt is the first and only President of the United States to be elected to a third term.

- 1943 – World War II: Bombing of the Vatican.

- 1950 – Korean War: British and Australian forces from the 27th British Commonwealth Brigade successfully halted the advancing Chinese 117th Division during the Battle of Pakchon.

- 1955 – After being destroyed in World War II, the rebuilt Vienna State Opera reopens with a performance of Beethoven's Fidelio.

- 1970 – The Military Assistance Command, Vietnam reports the lowest weekly American soldier death toll in five years (24).

- 1983 – Byford Dolphin diving bell accident kills five and leaves one severely injured.

- 1986 – USS Rentz, USS Reeves and USS Oldendorf visit Qingdao (Tsing Tao) China – the first US Naval visit to China since 1949.

- 1990 – Rabbi Meir Kahane, founder of the far-right Kach movement, is shot dead after a speech at a New York City hotel.

- 1995 – André Dallaire attempts to assassinate Prime Minister Jean Chrétien of Canada. He is thwarted when the Prime Minister's wife locks the door.

- 1996 – Pakistani President Farooq Leghari dismisses the government of Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto and dissolves the National Assembly of Pakistan.

- 2006 – Saddam Hussein, former president of Iraq, and his co-defendants Barzan Ibrahim al-Tikriti and Awad Hamed al-Bandar, are sentenced to death in the al-Dujail trial for their roles in the 1982 massacre of 148 Shi'a Muslims.

- 2007 – China's first lunar satellite, Chang'e 1, goes into orbit around the Moon.

- 2007 – Android mobile operating system is unveiled by Google.

- 2009 – U.S. Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan murders 13 and wounds 32 at Fort Hood, Texas in the deadliest mass shooting at a U.S. military installation.

- 2013 – India launches the Mars Orbiter Mission, its first interplanetary probe.

- 2015 – An iron ore tailings dam bursts in the Brazilian state of Minas Gerais flooding a valley, causing mudslides in the nearby village of Bento Rodrigues and causing up to 9 deaths and 19 missing.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1494 - Hans Sachs, German poet and playwright

- 1854 - Paul Sabatier, French chemist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1892 - John Alcock (RAF officer), captain in the Royal Navy and the Royal Air Force

- 1893 - Raymond Loewy, French-American engineer and designer

- 1913 - Vivien Leigh, British actress

- 1923 - Rudolf Augstein, German soldier and journalist, co-founded Der Spiegel

- 1931 - Ike Turner, American singer-songwriter, guitarist and producer

- 1936 - Uwe Seeler, German footballer and actor

- 1941 - Art Garfunkel, American singer-songwriter and guitarist

- 1948 - Bob Barr, American lawyer and politician

- 1948 - William Daniel Phillips, American physicist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1959 - Bryan Adams, Canadian singer-songwriter, guitarist, producer, and actor

- 1960 - Tilda Swinton, English actress

- 1980 - Christoph Metzelder, German footballer

[/spoiler]

Quote of the day

Today, people call each other 'guys' - this derives from Guy Fawkes, the bomb-making terrorist. No greater tribute has ever been paid to anyone in the history of politics.

- Michael Leuning -

[spoiler=Bonus Program: Poem of the Day]

Bonus Program: Poem of the Day

Remember, remember the fifth of November,

gunpowder, treason and plot,

I know of no reason why gunpowder treason

should ever be forgot.

Guy Fawkes, Guy Fawkes,

’twas his intent

to blow up the King and the Parliament.

Three score barrels of powder below,

Poor old England to overthrow:

By God’s providence he was catch’d

With a dark lantern and burning match.

Holloa boys, holloa boys, make the bells ring.

Holloa boys, holloa boys, God save the King!

Hip hip hoorah!

[/spoiler]

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Jaslandia, Au Minbo, Vista Major, Kalaron, Mercunova, Percyton

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF1951pENdk

Jaslandia, Percyton

Cesorion wrote:Only Hyder is running for Chancellor. He's acclaimed

Edit: It is irony, right?

Yep

The Wyoming Peoples Front wrote:Drugs!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=911500

Disappointed by the lack drugs being sold

Jaslandia, The Wyoming Peoples Front

I think it's funny and ironic how Guy Fawkes has become an anti-government symbol. Fawkes didn't want to abolish the government. He wanted to bring down the Protestant establishment, bring back an absolutist Catholic monarchy and, in his own words, "blow the Scots back to Scotland."

Jaslandia, Au Minbo, Axeldonia, Kalaron, Lex Caledonia, Cesorion, The Wyoming Peoples Front

“That must be a big piece of garbage. There’s no way you’ll catch any fish in that dead water.” concludes Fleur Vangelis, State Director of National Oil. She jabs a finger at the open sea, adding, “This proves that it’s high time to give up on environmental regulation altogether. If you want to squeeze some more production from this pool of filth, abolish those obsolete pollution laws hindering my offshore oil rigs. There’s nothing left to protect, after all.”

Iberian oil best oil.

Nuremgard, Percyton

The Issue

A small nameless nation within your sphere of influence has gone on a genocidal rampage within its own borders, ridding itself of what their Supreme Ruler For All Eternity, Emperor Tiberius Steele, refers to as ‘those filthy Bigtopians’. Some escaped refugees are requesting that your government do something to end the slaughter of millions.

Refugees run away from genocide to a nation that commits genocide on everyone the leadership decides/isnt citizen

Genius.........

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:

- Guy Fawkes Day/Night or Bonfire Night(United Kingdom, New Zealand and Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada)

And, for those of you who think Guy Fawkes Day is just a British/Commonwealth thing, apparently America had its own rowdy version of Guy Fawkes Day during the colonial era.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Night

Nuremgard, The Empire Of Handland, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Jaslandia wrote:And, for those of you who think Guy Fawkes Day is just a British/Commonwealth thing, apparently America had its own rowdy version of Guy Fawkes Day during the colonial era.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Night

But it was all in good jest, right?

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Yukona wrote:But it was all in good jest, right?

"In 1752, a sailor named John Crabb was clubbed to death on Pope Night by Thomas Chubb, also a sailor, and a slave named Abraham. Chubb was branded on the hand and sentenced to a year in prison for his part in the killing; it is not known what happened to Abraham."

Good jest, riiiight...

Nuremgard, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Jaslandia wrote:And, for those of you who think Guy Fawkes Day is just a British/Commonwealth thing, apparently America had its own rowdy version of Guy Fawkes Day during the colonial era.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Night

Bloody hell. The Orange Order here would love that.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia

Nuremgard wrote:Bloody hell. The Orange Order here would love that.

Perhaps, but the Orange Order is more upper/middle-class, no? Pope Night was for the lowest rung of society, and I'm not sure if the Orange Order would want to be associated with that.

Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:Perhaps, but the Orange Order is more upper/middle-class, no? Pope Night was for the lowest rung of society, and I'm not sure if the Orange Order would want to be associated with that.

LOL

The Orange Order is full of underclass derelicts. Deadbeats who cling obsessively to a toxic identity and a state which wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire. Of course there are middle and upper class Orangemen too.

Lex Caledonia

>has to get up at 4.15 am to be punctual at school which starts a 8.15 am

Well, goodnight then, friends.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Percyton, Spanelsko

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:>has to get up at 4.15 am to be punctual at school which starts a 8.15 am

Well, goodnight then, friends.

Nighty night.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:>has to get up at 4.15 am to be punctual at school which starts a 8.15 am

Well, goodnight then, friends.

Goodnight, Peng!

Percyton

Does anybody have a version of the teapot on a blue square? Similar to the flag but with a bigger gap up and down.

(Vista Major perhaps?)

Spanelsko wrote:

Iberian oil best oil.

Diesel: I think we diesels will be the judge of THAT! Do you export your oil?

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:>has to get up at 4.15 am to be punctual at school which starts a 8.15 am

Well, goodnight then, friends.

Goodnight, Peng!

Jaslandia

Jaslandia wrote:"In 1752, a sailor named John Crabb was clubbed to death on Pope Night by Thomas Chubb

Little known fact: John Crabb was chubby and Thomas Chubb was crabby.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

I know I've been changing flags like the middle east changes dictators for a couple of weeks now, but this is hopefully the final version.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova, Czeko Russika

Axeldonia wrote:I know I've been changing flags like the middle east changes dictators for a couple of weeks now, but this is hopefully the final version.

I like it.

Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

Mercunova wrote:Little known fact: John Crabb was chubby and Thomas Chubb was crabby.

Lol. So what does that make Abraham?

Penguania And Antarctica

I’m baaaaaaaaack! Spreading the love and happiness was fun.

Russkov Soviet, Penguania And Antarctica

How will you all be voting in the WA Wetland Protection Protocol?

Dyota-Metura has changed their flag again.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=onocarcass/detail=factbook/id=787891

Also, are there any of these flags you think should be changed?

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Vista Major

Czeko Russika wrote:How will you all be voting in the WA Wetland Protection Protocol?

I always vote against WA Resolution Proposals and for repeals, regardless of what they are.

Oh, and always against anything from the Security Council.

Talkative Friedensriech wrote:I always vote against WA Resolution Proposals and for repeals, regardless of what they are.

Oh, and always against anything from the Security Council.

Oh that's interesting, may I ask why? :)

Czeko Russika wrote:Oh that's interesting, may I ask why? :)

I’m against the concept and practice of the WA. I only have a puppet in it because this region requires it. Otherwise, my main nation has been out of the WA for nearly a year and a half

Czeko Russika

Cesorion wrote:Does anybody have a version of the teapot on a blue square? Similar to the flag but with a bigger gap up and down.

(Vista Major perhaps?)

I doubt I have one, but someone could always try and make one

Penguania And Antarctica

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