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Andromitus wrote:Hey, you don't mind if I post on this right? I'm not going to be getting involved I'm just going to send a high-speed UAV with a really spiffy camera over to check in on whats going on; I don't know about you guys, but this looks like another Khutongia Incident just waiting to happen, I mean it's happening in Kongo too lol

Actually, that could be a pretty cool backstory in that region, Mag and I fought in Kongo before the PLR took over in the region, hence why their a military government and why Handland would want to "stabilize" them; But it's up to you guys.

Also, to everyone, I'm going to be undergoing some OOC Government changes, essentially I'm going to diversify Harmony (The online voting system I got going) and to implement a low power Senate to add realism and to keep me from becoming a mobocracy, I'm still working out general details but y'all might as well know. Oh, and I just have too stress this again, these changes are going to be OOC not IC so I won't be posting about it on the Confederacy General.

go right ahead.

Andromitus

Alright, seeing as every potential RP that was posted on the forums has either been discontinued or abandoned, I'm planning to start an RP where you guys can visit your country and do business with Wily and the gang.* And I'll be sure to keep this RP alive. Pisses me off that we can't get a decent RP going for more than a few days. No offense to the people who started them.

*Let me know if you guys are actually interested in participating in it. If not, I won't waste my time. Anyone's allowed to join.

Merlinton

Magnatronia wrote:Alright, seeing as every potential RP that was posted on the forums has either been discontinued or abandoned, I'm planning to start an RP where you guys can visit your country and do business with Wily and the gang.*

So basically a more Magnatronia-centric Confederacy General?

Yukona

Andromitus wrote:So basically a more Magnatronia-centric Confederacy General?

Basically it's to cement my place as the economic powerhouse of the Americas. Kal can say how rich he is all he wants, but his portfolio's worthless as soon as people stop buying weapons. So I'll host a tour of Mega City One for anyone that wants to come. Think of it as a really, really dark version of Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. Except Willy is Wily, the oompa loompas are slaves, and my chocolate factory is my entire city.

Merlinton

Things are looking bad for Donny Boy 👍

Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Magnatronia wrote:Basically it's to cement my place as the economic powerhouse of the Americas. Kal can say how rich he is all he wants, but his portfolio's worthless as soon as people stop buying weapons. So I'll host a tour of Mega City One for anyone that wants to come. Think of it as a really, really dark version of Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. Except Willy is Wily, the oompa loompas are slaves, and my chocolate factory is my entire city.

I mean tbh that will never happen because Kalaron provides dynamic advances, also, Kalaron happens to have a GPS service that we get a hefty sum from.

Tbh, I'll expand it even more later, but for now I'm focused on making more transport craft, something people objectively need :^>

Also, you're still a corporate slave state so Kalaron will be at least pretty rich in the future :D

Kalaron wrote:I mean tbh that will never happen because Kalaron provides dynamic advances, also, Kalaron happens to have a GPS service that we get a hefty sum from.

Tbh, I'll expand it even more later, but for now I'm focused on making more transport craft, something people objectively need :^>

Also, you're still a corporate slave state so Kalaron will be at least pretty rich in the future :D

Yeah, don't expect many nations to publicly deal with a corporatist slave pariah.....

Friedensreich wrote:Yeah, don't expect many nations to publicly deal with a corporatist slave pariah.....

Man your opinion doesn't matter

Kalaron wrote:I mean tbh that will never happen because Kalaron provides dynamic advances, also, Kalaron happens to have a GPS service that we get a hefty sum from.

Tbh, I'll expand it even more later, but for now I'm focused on making more transport craft, something people objectively need :^>

Also, you're still a corporate slave state so Kalaron will be at least pretty rich in the future :D

Nah man, anyone'll tell you that the key to a successful business is diversification. You gotta be invested in everything. Sure people'll need transportation and guns and GPS and stuff. But they'll also need other manufactured goods, subsidized labor, tax havens, affordable healthcare (for our customers, not employees), 401ks, and useless but adorable plastic knick knacks.

Merlinton

Magnatronia wrote:Man your opinion doesn't matter

Too bad it's a fact and not an opinion. What leader in their right mind would endorse a slave state by giving it money for materials?

Merlinton

Friedensreich wrote:Too bad it's a fact and not an opinion. What leader in their right mind would endorse a slave state by giving it money for materials?

Magnatronia wrote:Man you don't matter.

What he said^

Magnatronia wrote:What he said^

You do you, man. I'm just calling it how I'm seeing it.

Friedensreich wrote:You do you, man. I'm just calling it how I'm seeing it.

Magnatronia wrote:What a nerd^

Man, I love this guy^

Magnatronia wrote:Man, I love this guy^

What a child

Friedensreich wrote:I'm a child

Don't put yourself down like that

Merlinton, Yukona

Magnatronia wrote:Don't put yourself down like that

Says the Pariah^

Friedensreich wrote:Says the Pariah^

Listen, I don't understand your technobabble

Friedensreich wrote:Too bad it's a fact and not an opinion. What leader in their right mind would endorse a slave state by giving it money for materials?

Duh, another equally evil slave state

Peoples Liberation Republic, Aghrabia, Yukona

Merlinton wrote:Duh, another equally evil slave state

What other slave states are there in the world?

Merlinton

Friedensreich wrote:What other slave states are there in the world?

My alt kinda once I start RPing in.... two days

Merlinton wrote:My alt kinda once I start RPing in.... two days

What's the name of your alt?

Friedensreich wrote:What other slave states are there in the world?

Merlinton wrote:My alt kinda once I start RPing in.... two days

I'm actually not being snarky, I have another nation that I'll be using for RP once school is over, and tomorrow is my last day. I was waiting until I'd have more time so in two days I'll be basically completely free to run a slave state.

Peoples Liberation Republic

Magnatronia wrote:Basically it's to cement my place as the economic powerhouse of the Americas.

Oh you

Andromitus, Yukona

Friedensreich wrote:What's the name of your alt?

Merlinton wrote:I'm actually not being snarky, I have another nation that I'll be using for RP once school is over, and tomorrow is my last day. I was waiting until I'd have more time so in two days I'll be basically completely free to run a slave state.

This is my alt. I'll be creating factbooks and stuff on Friday, but [nation=short]The Empire of Handland[/nation] and [nation=short]Magnatronia[/nation] already know a little of the plan. Like I said, I haven't done anything with it yet because I'm trying to get through finals first.

Friedensreich, Yukona

The Royal Republic Of Kumania wrote:Oh you

Man you're socialist monarchy, everyone knows they're doomed to fail

Merlinton

Magnatronia wrote:Man you're socialist monarchy, everyone knows they're doomed to fail

Slave states have the worst grammar

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, United Continental States

Magnatronia wrote:Man you're socialist monarchy, everyone knows they're doomed to fail

Socialist republican monarchy get it right bitchboi <3

Friedensreich

The Royal Republic Of Kumania wrote:Socialist republican monarchy get it right bitchboi <3

Oh shart, now that changes everything! XD

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Andromitus

The Royal Republic Of Kumania wrote:Socialist republican monarchy get it right bitchboi <3

Is... Is that any better?

I mean, I know I was a Communist Czardom for a while but... Damn. You got balls.

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Penguania And Antarctica

The Royal Republic Of Kumania wrote:Socialist republican monarchy get it right bitchboi <3

And many nations are willing to trade with a socialist republican monarchy, so in all likelihood you'd be an economic powerhouse in the Americas.

The Royal Republic Of Kumania

Friedensreich wrote:And many nations are willing to trade with a socialist republican monarchy, so in all likelihood you'd be an economic powerhouse in the Americas.

"Socialist" and "Economic powerhouse" in the same sentence.

That's funny

Aghrabia, Vista Major

Aldwood wrote:Is... Is that any better?

I mean, I know I was a Communist Czardom for a while but... Damn. You got balls.

At least he ain't no federal constitutional parliamentary caliphate with a President, Premier, and pentacameral legislature :p

Nuremgard, Aghrabia, Aldwood

Magnatronia wrote:"Socialist" and "Economic powerhouse" in the same sentence.

That's funny

Kuma will always be more of a powerhouse than you, babe. Sorry.

Nobody wants to publicly deal with a state that condones slavery. That is a political sh!tstorm just waiting to happen in any remotely democratic nation.

Nuremgard, The Royal Republic Of Kumania

Magnatronia wrote:"Socialist" and "Economic powerhouse" in the same sentence.

That's funny

It's common round these parts

The Royal Republic Of Kumania

Magnatronia wrote:Man your opinion doesn't matterNah man, anyone'll tell you that the key to a successful business is diversification. You gotta be invested in everything. Sure people'll need transportation and guns and GPS and stuff. But they'll also need other manufactured goods, subsidized labor, tax havens, affordable healthcare (for our customers, not employees), 401ks, and useless but adorable plastic knick knacks.

I mean, Kalaron also has plans to produce powerplants so we really have plenty of different jobs.

It honestly gives me a little too much to do, considering my backlog.

Magnatronia wrote:"Socialist" and "Economic powerhouse" in the same sentence.

That's funny

Nuremgard is a socialist powerhouse.

El-Aaiun Al-Khalifa wrote:At least he ain't no federal constitutional parliamentary caliphate with a President, Premier, and pentacameral legislature :p

What would be the Caliphate's foreign policy towards my Shia empire?

Friedensreich wrote:Kuma will always be more of a powerhouse than you, babe. Sorry.

Nobody wants to publicly deal with a state that condones slavery. That is a political sh!tstorm just waiting to happen in any remotely democratic nation.

I have a democratic nation that has slavery. Well it's a very limited democracy. Only landowners can vote.

El-Aaiun Al-Khalifa

Friedensreich wrote:Kuma will always be more of a powerhouse than you, babe. Sorry.

sh!tstorm

HEY! This is a kid-friendly zone. No cursing allowed.

United Continental States

Friedensreich wrote:Kuma will always be more of a powerhouse than you, babe. Sorry.

Nobody wants to publicly deal with a state that condones slavery. That is a political sh!tstorm just waiting to happen in any remotely democratic nation.

and tf are you saying babe for, I aint your babe. And that phrase is trademarked too. Pay up

Merlinton, Zedelia, United Continental States

Nuremgard wrote:Nuremgard is a socialist powerhouse.

What would be the Caliphate's foreign policy towards my Shia empire?

I have a democratic nation that has slavery. Well it's a very limited democracy. Only landowners can vote.

As long as it doesn't try to disturb the Caliphate's policies and not piss off the government, Farahan would probably be regarded as a potential ally rather than a source of contention and conflict like the Saudis and Persians

Nuremgard

El-Aaiun Al-Khalifa wrote:As long as it doesn't try to disturb the Caliphate's policies and not piss off the government, Farahan would probably be regarded as a potential ally rather than a source of contention and conflict like the Saudis and Persians

So it's not aggressively Sunni then? You wouldn't hate Farahan just for being Shia?

El-Aaiun Al-Khalifa

Nuremgard wrote:So it's not aggressively Sunni then? You wouldn't hate Farahan just for being Shia?

Nope: if you try to support a government overthrow, cause mayhem in-between the States of the Caliphate, or try to pull an Abd al-Rahman (read: try to wage war against the Caliphate and create your own from the States), then issues would occur, but religion is not considered a factor in relations

Nuremgard

Magnatronia wrote:HEY! This is a kid-friendly zone. No cursing allowed.

Nah. I'm not cursing, babe :P

Magnatronia wrote:and tf are you saying babe for, I aint your babe. And that phrase is trademarked too. Pay up

You're right, my babe is a diver. But I'm trying to show some sympathy. I've been told I need to show some more of that.

Kalaron wrote:I mean, Kalaron also has plans to produce powerplants so we really have plenty of different jobs.

It honestly gives me a little too much to do, considering my backlog.

What kiiiiiind of power plants?

Magnatronia wrote: And that phrase is trademarked too. Pay up

How bout we all just invade you instead :)

United Continental States

El-Aaiun Al-Khalifa wrote:Nope: if you try to support a government overthrow, cause mayhem in-between the States of the Caliphate, or try to pull an Abd al-Rahman (read: try to wage war against the Caliphate and create your own from the States), then issues would occur, but religion is not considered a factor in relations

I like you already!

El-Aaiun Al-Khalifa

El-Aaiun Al-Khalifa wrote:Nope: if you try to support a government overthrow, cause mayhem in-between the States of the Caliphate, or try to pull an Abd al-Rahman (read: try to wage war against the Caliphate and create your own from the States), then issues would occur, but religion is not considered a factor in relations

The Shah would see the Caliphate as a powerful ally. It would not need to fear Farahani aggression. It has its own imperial borders to protect. His Maj would be more interested in trade than war.

El-Aaiun Al-Khalifa

Zedelia wrote:but [nation=short]The Empire of Handland[/nation] and [nation=short]Magnatronia[/nation] already know a little of the plan.

Howdy neighbor...*Sniff**

Magnatronia wrote:Basically it's to cement my place as the economic powerhouse of the Americas. Kal can say how rich he is all he wants, but his portfolio's worthless as soon as people stop buying weapons. So I'll host a tour of Mega City One for anyone that wants to come. Think of it as a really, really dark version of Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. Except Willy is Wily, the oompa loompas are slaves, and my chocolate factory is my entire city.

That was probably the greatest analogy I've ever witnessed...Also the scariest one :-/

Actually, just because I like things organized, what if we did a thing kind of like Vid did before he'd left, on the CG RP we start a separate thread like that, essentially separated from all the other posts because of its bold header announcing which general subthread it is...

Friedensreich wrote:What a child

I don't know if you know this already but boy that child be dīckin' wit' you

Magnatronia wrote:and tf are you saying babe for, I aint your babe. And that phrase is trademarked too. Pay up

Friedensreich wrote:Nah. I'm not cursing, babe :P

B!tch only I can call him babe and thats too annoy the livign sh!t outta him —or so he thinks— so LEARN YOUR PLACE MAGGOT!

Friedensreich, Zedelia

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:I am hella high

What on? I just took about 10 mg of Vicodin an hour ago and I'm feeling fûcking amazing.

Friedensreich wrote:What on? I just took about 10 mg of Vicodin an hour ago and I'm feeling fûcking amazing.

good ole' marijuana

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:good ole' marijuana

The stink makes me boke.

Nuremgard wrote:The stink makes me boke.

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh just breath it in man

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh just breath it in man

Yuck!

I am all for legalising all drug use though.

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:good ole' marijuana

Any particular strain? I like edibles (specifically cupcakes) made with purple haze.

Yukona

Friedensreich wrote:I like you already!

Fried: Danke

Nuremgard wrote:The Shah would see the Caliphate as a powerful ally. It would not need to fear Farahani aggression. It has its own imperial borders to protect. His Maj would be more interested in trade than war.

Nurem: Then one could expect a trade agreement and potential defense agreement with the Shah if the latter approves of it

Nuremgard

Friedensreich wrote:Any particular strain? I like edibles (specifically cupcakes) made with purple haze.

Purple haze is what I prefer. I do not do edibles. Eh. I prefer joints or bongs.

Yukona

Nuremgard wrote:The stink makes me boke.

Same here. That's why i usually avoid smoking.

El-Aaiun Al-Khalifa wrote:Fried: Danke

Nurem: Then one could expect a trade agreement and potential defense agreement with the Shah if the latter approves of it

That would be agreeable to His Maj. He's all for sticking up for a fellow Muslim power.

Friedensreich wrote:Same here. That's why i usually avoid smoking.

I don't smoke, drink or take drugs myself but I'm fine with others doing it so long as they're adults.

Peoples Liberation Republic, El-Aaiun Al-Khalifa

Andromitus wrote:Howdy neighbor...*Sniff**

Oh! I'm so sorry neighbor!!! I didn't mean to exclude you!

Ye Ændy knows the plan too!

Nuremgard wrote:That would be agreeable to His Maj. He's all for sticking up for a fellow Muslim power.

I don't smoke, drink or take drugs myself but I'm fine with others doing it so long as they're adults.

although I am a non-Muslim military junta, I would like to support the Muslim powers.

Nuremgard, Friedensreich

That moment you're writing a constitution for a monarchy and you end up distracted watching videos on The Division and the Hunters in Survival mode

Nuremgard

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:although I am a non-Muslim military junta, I would like to support the Muslim powers.

So long as they aren't extremist (for example, Wahhabist or Jihadist) and accept a mostly Confucian and Atheist nation, I'd say the same.

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:although I am a non-Muslim military junta, I would like to support the Muslim powers.

The Shah is totally cool with that although any particular reason why?

El-Aaiun Al-Khalifa wrote:That moment you're writing a constitution for a monarchy and you end up distracted watching videos on The Division and the Hunters in Survival mode

Writing a constitution lol you're such a political nerd.

That's something I would do too.

El-Aaiun Al-Khalifa

Nuremgard wrote:The Shah is totally cool with that although any particular reason why?

Writing a constitution lol you're such a political nerd.

That's something I would do too.

*shrug* Summertime, no word on whether my local college has accepted my request to attend, and no job means sitting around the house for hours on end :p

Nuremgard, United Continental States

Nuremgard wrote:The Shah is totally cool with that although any particular reason why?

Writing a constitution lol you're such a political nerd.

That's something I would do too.

why not? Geopolitically speaking, it would be wise to do such.

Nuremgard

Nuremgard wrote:The Shah is totally cool with that although any particular reason why?

Writing a constitution lol you're such a political nerd.

That's something I would do too.

I'm extremely lazy. I've been wanting to flesh out my economics for weeks and write a Constitution since I got here, but when I get the time to do it I get distracted with something else.

Nuremgard

Friedensreich wrote:I'm extremely lazy. I've been wanting to flesh out my economics for weeks and write a Constitution since I got here, but when I get the time to do it I get distracted with something else.

Same: I'm balancing fleshing out Pirate Kingdoms with it's overview, revamping the Constitution for The United Confederacy Of Texas (my first nation and de jure primary account), and writing the Constitution for the Caliphate while also finishing the Political Overview on the Federal Government.

Nuremgard

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:why not? Geopolitically speaking, it would be wise to do such.

Indeed, considering they're both large and imperialistic.

Friedensreich wrote:I'm extremely lazy. I've been wanting to flesh out my economics for weeks and write a Constitution since I got here, but when I get the time to do it I get distracted with something else.

I wanted to write Nuremgard's constitution but like you I'm too lazy. So I wrote an overview of it instead.

Zedelia wrote:

Ændy

Eeeehhhhhhhhh, I'm going to have fun turning you into rubble in the Great War...

El-Aaiun Al-Khalifa wrote:Same: I'm balancing fleshing out Pirate Kingdoms with it's overview, revamping the Constitution for The United Confederacy Of Texas (my first nation and de jure primary account), and writing the Constitution for the Caliphate while also finishing the Political Overview on the Federal Government.

Hope you get into your college!

I only have factbooks for Nuremgard and Valyria.

El-Aaiun Al-Khalifa

This is essentially PLR economics:

PLR economics pertains to a modified command economy that incorporates corporate fascism, state sponsored capitalism, and state-owned corporations. It advocates for low taxes on corporations and subsidies along with incentives to proliferate development, especially pertaining to infrastructure and the sciences. the economy is collectively managed by employers, workers and state officials at the national level. Economically speaking, PLR is most influenced by Revolutionary Syndicalism on the basis of each interest was to form as its own entity with separate organizing parameters according to their own standards, which correlates to economic policies similar to eventual top-down economics. The other dominating factor is that the State develops economic activity, where the means of production are cultivated and administered as a state-owned enterprise. This administering of enterprise includes capital accumulation, wage labor, and centralized management. Therefore, essentially, the PLR government takes on the role as a functioning corporation that extricates the surplus value from the workforce and invest the surplus into furthering production and investments. Overall, PLR economy is capitalistic and privately owned; however, it is subjected to Statist, command economy planning. Furthermore, the means of production are privately owned by corporation and banks; however, the State has majority control over allocating credit and investments.

Nuremgard, The Empire Of Handland, Friedensreich

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:This is essentially PLR economics:.

My country Tangshan is also a republican junta.

Peoples Liberation Republic

Nuremgard wrote:My country Tangshan is also a republican junta.

such brings tears to my eyes. A fellow junta.

Nuremgard

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:such brings tears to my eyes. A fellow junta.

It's a ruthlessly free market, ruthlessly oppressive one-party state which is presided over by an all-powerful General worshipped as a god, with the Tang state also venerated by the people. The official religion is literally worship of the government.

Peoples Liberation Republic

Nuremgard wrote:It's a ruthlessly free market, ruthlessly oppressive one-party state which is presided over by an all-powerful General worshipped as a god, with the Tang state also venerated by the people. The official religion is literally worship of the government.

Yes, this is something I can and will support. My country is basically the same way but just instead of a one-party state, it is sort of a Monarchical Junta. Whatever the all-powerful General wants done, it happens. Whatever he declares as law becomes law. He is the institutionalized religion and therefore, cannot be questioned. All that he does is what is good for the State and the citizens under the purview of the State.

Nuremgard

Andromitus wrote:Eeeehhhhhhhhh, I'm going to have fun turning you into rubble in the Great War...

Ændy, Ædenism is actually a conspiracy placed by Magnatronian spies in Andromitus to support the ideology and create sheeple, making them seem bellicose on the world stage so a pre-emptive reason exists for OmniCorp to enslave Andromitus after annihilating them in the Great War and taking the land and the Panama Canal for themselves before invading the world with advanced tech, new slaves, and corporate warfare :p

Merlinton, The Royal Republic Of Kumania, The Empire Of Handland, Magnatronia

El-Aaiun Al-Khalifa wrote:Ændy, Ædenism is actually a conspiracy placed by Magnatronian spies in Andromitus to support the ideology and create sheeple, making them seem bellicose on the world stage so a pre-emptive reason exists for OmniCorp to enslave Andromitus after annihilating them in the Great War and taking the land and the Panama Canal for themselves before invading the world with advanced tech, new slaves, and corporate warfare :p

OH MY GOD I LOVE YA

Merlinton, El-Aaiun Al-Khalifa

Magnatronia wrote:OH MY GOD I LOVE YA

OmniCorp is Love, OmniCorp is Life: the Andreallic people are heathens for not submitting to President Dr. Wily

Merlinton, Magnatronia

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:Yes, this is something I can and will support. My country is basically the same way but just instead of a one-party state, it is sort of a Monarchical Junta. Whatever the all-powerful General wants done, it happens. Whatever he declares as law becomes law. He is the institutionalized religion and therefore, cannot be questioned. All that he does is what is good for the State and the citizens under the purview of the State.

This would be fully supported by Tangshan. The major difference between it and PLR is that private industry plays the main role in the economy. The ruling party is called the Prosperity Party which puts economic success above all other concerns, including personal liberty, human rights etc.

The government section in Tangshan's economy pie chart is tiny but this is because it only pays for defence, industry and law and order. No public services. That's against the PP's ethos. The Tangs do have a big state though. It's just that the big state is used to control every detail of the people's lives.

As a fellow junta, what would be better for Tangshan? Having the President be all-powerful or have a puppet president with an all-powerful General calling the shots?

El-Aaiun Al-Khalifa wrote:OmniCorp is Love, OmniCorp is Life: the Andreallic people are heathens for not submitting to President Dr. Wily

All hail the one true corporate dictatorship!

Magnatronia, El-Aaiun Al-Khalifa

Friedensreich wrote:What on? I just took about 10 mg of Vicodin an hour ago and I'm feeling fûcking amazing.

It would be nearly impossible to get high from such a low dose of Vicodin. Recreational doses start at about 20 mg to get to a fuzzy, sedated feeling. Sorry, man, but unless you're 5'2" and 110 pounds there's no way you're "high" from 10 mg.

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:All hail the one true corporate dictatorship!

HAIL

Magnatronia

El-Aaiun Al-Khalifa wrote:OmniCorp is Love, OmniCorp is Life: the Andreallic people are heathens for not submitting to President Dr. Wily

YOU'RE MY NEW GOD. USE ME.

Merlinton, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, The Cross And Davids Star, El-Aaiun Al-Khalifa

Magnatronia wrote:YOU'RE MY NEW GOD. USE ME.

Hmm, kinky.

Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Magnatronia, United Continental States, El-Aaiun Al-Khalifa

Magnatronia wrote:YOU'RE MY NEW GOD. USE ME.

OmniCorp Regnaturi Summa

Andromitus, Magnatronia

Magnatronia wrote:It would be nearly impossible to get high from such a low dose of Vicodin. Recreational doses start at about 20 mg to get to a fuzzy, sedated feeling. Sorry, man, but unless you're 5'2" and 110 pounds there's no way you're "high" from 10 mg.

Nah. I've been in pain the past couple days because I pulled a bunch of muscles in my back helping my little brother with his swim lessons on Monday, and the 10mg made me temporarily get out of this excruciating pain, and I felt great. It's wearing off now, and the pain is coming back.

Merlinton

Nuremgard wrote:This would be fully supported by Tangshan. The major difference between it and PLR is that private industry plays the main role in the economy. The ruling party is called the Prosperity Party which puts economic success above all other concerns, including personal liberty, human rights etc.

The government section in Tangshan's economy pie chart is tiny but this is because it only pays for defence, industry and law and order. No public services. That's against the PP's ethos. The Tangs do have a big state though. It's just that the big state is used to control every detail of the people's lives.

As a fellow junta, what would be better for Tangshan? Having the President be all-powerful or have a puppet president with an all-powerful General calling the shots?

In my opinion, have an all-powerful General with a puppet president because if the President disobeys, then the President is well destroyed and eradicated similar to what the Praetorian Guard did eventually in Rome with Emperors that did not do what they wanted. For the PLR, yes the private industry play a main role in the economy but because they are State-sponsored and the PLR is State Capitalism, the State holds the majority of the shares of all the corporations; therefore, since the General is basically the State of the PLR, the General owns the majority of all PLR corporations, meaning that he can fire and hire board of directors for each and every corporation that refuse to do what the Generals wants of them to do when the Generals sends out tasks to get done. The same thing goes for small businesses, the military, and the Judicial System, which is essentially based on the discretion of the General. We are not very different at all. Only difference that I really see between us is the structure of our economies and that you have a one-party state while I am a Monarchical Junta.

Nuremgard

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:I am a Monarchical Junta.

I see your civil rights are good. What's the PLR's policy on civil liberty? As I said, the PP ideology is prosperity at all costs and absolute control over the citizenry. It's basically totalitarian as every single aspect of people's lives is controlled by the government. They don't even get to choose names for their children. Everyone is issued ID numbers.

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:This is essentially PLR economics:

[spoiler]PLR economics pertains to a modified command economy that incorporates corporate fascism, state sponsored capitalism, and state-owned corporations. It advocates for low taxes on corporations and subsidies along with incentives to proliferate development, especially pertaining to infrastructure and the sciences. the economy is collectively managed by employers, workers and state officials at the national level. Economically speaking, PLR is most influenced by Revolutionary Syndicalism on the basis of each interest was to form as its own entity with separate organizing parameters according to their own standards, which correlates to economic policies similar to eventual top-down economics. The other dominating factor is that the State develops economic activity, where the means of production are cultivated and administered as a state-owned enterprise. This administering of enterprise includes capital accumulation, wage labor, and centralized management. Therefore, essentially, the PLR government takes on the role as a functioning corporation that extricates the surplus value from the workforce and invest the surplus into furthering production and investments. Overall, PLR economy is capitalistic and privately owned; however, it is subjected to Statist, command economy planning. Furthermore, the means of production are privately owned by corporation and banks; however, the State has majority control over allocating credit and investments.[/spoiler]

Sounds a lot like what I want mine to be.

I'm having my economy collectively owned through a distribution of all of a company's stock to its employees (kinda like Starbucks irl but to an extreme), with profits being taken by the government to invest it into industries in need of development through grants and subsidies. Aside from that, government intervention is kept to a minimum, only to prevent the formation of monopolies and the like.

Nuremgard, Peoples Liberation Republic

El-Aaiun Al-Khalifa wrote:Ændy, Ædenism is actually a conspiracy placed by Magnatronian spies in Andromitus to support the ideology and create sheeple, making them seem bellicose on the world stage so a pre-emptive reason exists for OmniCorp to enslave Andromitus after annihilating them in the Great War and taking the land and the Panama Canal for themselves before invading the world with advanced tech, new slaves, and corporate warfare :p

Goddammít [nation=short]Merlinton[/nation] look what you've started; Oh and I know you were joking but the Great War already happened, and in it I [REDACTED]

Sorry, IDK if Zedalia wants that all public yet ;)

Merlinton, El-Aaiun Al-Khalifa

Nuremgard wrote:I see your civil rights are good. What's the PLR's policy on civil liberty? As I said, the PP ideology is prosperity at all costs and absolute control over the citizenry. It's basically totalitarian as every single aspect of people's lives is controlled by the government. They don't even get to choose names for their children. Everyone is issued ID numbers.

civil rights? Civil Rights are artificial perceptions developed for the intentions of self-entitlement and socioeconomic privilege. PLR does not possess civil rights. Civil Rights in the opinion of the PLR hinder State Progression and Prosperity and it also hinders the responsibility of maintaining State Security and Sovereignty from foreign and domestic threats.

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:civil rights? Civil Rights are artificial perceptions developed for the intentions of self-entitlement and socioeconomic privilege. PLR does not possess civil rights. Civil Rights in the opinion of the PLR hinder State Progression and Prosperity and it also hinders the responsibility of maintaining State Security and Sovereignty from foreign and domestic threats.

*Has few laws governing peoples actions* *Steps back slightly*

Andromitus wrote:Goddammít [nation=short]Merlinton[/nation] look what you've started; Oh and I know you were joking but the Great War already happened, and in it I [REDACTED]

Sorry, IDK if Zedalia wants that all public yet ;)

Speaking of, we need to get the serpents of æden rp back up and running. Any ideas from you or Magnatronia?

Magnatronia

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:civil rights? Civil Rights are artificial perceptions developed for the intentions of self-entitlement and socioeconomic privilege. PLR does not possess civil rights. Civil Rights in the opinion of the PLR hinder State Progression and Prosperity and it also hinders the responsibility of maintaining State Security and Sovereignty from foreign and domestic threats.

It's ironic that Tangshan's government, which exerts such extreme control over its people, gives free reign to corporations. I have considered making it communist so that the state controls everything, including the economy. Do you think it should become communist or remain capitalist?

Andromitus wrote:Goddammít [nation=short]Merlinton[/nation] look what you've started; Oh and I know you were joking but the Great War already happened, and in it I [REDACTED]

Sorry, IDK if Zedalia wants that all public yet ;)

Multiverse, mang: universes exists where the Great War was at its projected time, but Ædenism and OmniCorp are already in existence, or at the very least a Great War does not occur until recently

Merlinton

El-Aaiun Al-Khalifa wrote:Multiverse, mang: universes exists where the Great War was at its projected time, but Ædenism and OmniCorp are already in existence, or at the very least a Great War does not occur until recently

Quit logicing me to confusion!

El-Aaiun Al-Khalifa

El-Aaiun Al-Khalifa wrote:Multiverse, mang: universes exists where the Great War was at its projected time, but Ædenism and OmniCorp are already in existence, or at the very least a Great War does not occur until recently

I will give your factbook a proper read soon but not tonight. I need to go to bed. It's late here and I need to be up for an afternoon trip into college.

Merlinton, El-Aaiun Al-Khalifa

Nuremgard wrote:It's ironic that Tangshan's government, which exerts such extreme control over its people, gives free reign to corporations. I have considered making it communist so that the state controls everything, including the economy. Do you think it should become communist or remain capitalist?

remain capitalist and grant tax cuts and business subsidies to your defense sector of your government to maintain effective innovation and competition for better equipment and technology for your military instead of being under a command economy. Command Economy for production efficiency but that does not mean that the finished product would be necessarily good compared to a free market capitalist economy that has competition, good levels of production but not necessarily good with mass production and manufacturing. Won't be as rich being communist compared to having a capitalist economy. I would recommend Capitalism because then if need be, you can implement much more effective trading policies, tariffs, and other sort of foreign policy initiatives if you are capitalist because of your diverse, competitive market within the international community. Not saying that you won't be able to compete but your diversity of product and competition will not be as prevalent or effective. Your economy won't be as strong or stable as Communist. It would be larger than a capitalist economy but not as valuable if that makes sense. Capitalist economy would enrich your junta.

Nuremgard

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:Quit logicing me to confusion!

Hell, one multiverse exists in which El-Aaiún and TCaDS exists together, albeit with the latter as a State of the Caliphate or vassal, or even vice versa

Andromitus wrote:Goddammít [nation=short]Merlinton[/nation] look what you've started; Oh and I know you were joking but the Great War already happened, and in it I [REDACTED]

Sorry, IDK if Zedalia wants that all public yet ;)

Thanks for keeping that hush-hush :D Just for another two days though!

Andromitus

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