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Hello friends. Wish you all a nice day. :)

[spoiler=Today is March 9 and today are:]

Today is March 9 and today are:

- False Teeth Day

- Joe Franklin Day

- Nametag Day

- National Barbie Day (United States)

- National Crabmeat Day (United States)

- National Get Over it Day (United States)

- National Heroes and Benefactors Day (Belize)

- National Meatball Day (United States)

- Panic Day

- Popcorn Lover's Day

- Ta'anit Esther or Fast of Esther (Israel)

- Teachers' Day or Eid Al Moalim (Lebanon)

- World Kidney Day

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 141 BC – Liu Che, posthumously known as Emperor Wu of Han, assumes the throne over the Han dynasty of China.

- 1009 – First known mention of Lithuania, in the annals of the monastery of Quedlinburg.

- 1230 – Bulgarian tsar Ivan Asen II defeats Theodore of Epirus in the Battle of Klokotnitsa.

- 1276 – Augsburg becomes a Free imperial city.

- 1500 – The fleet of Pedro Álvares Cabral leaves Lisbon for the Indies. The fleet will discover Brazil which lies within boundaries granted to Portugal in the Treaty of Tordesillas.

- 1566 – David Rizzio, private secretary to Mary, Queen of Scots, is murdered in the Palace of Holyroodhouse, Edinburgh, Scotland.

- 1765 – After a campaign by the writer Voltaire, judges in Paris posthumously exonerate Jean Calas of murdering his son. Calas had been tortured and executed in 1762 on the charge, though his son may have actually committed suicide.

- 1796 – Napoléon Bonaparte marries his first wife, Joséphine de Beauharnais.

- 1811 – Paraguayan forces defeat Manuel Belgrano at the Battle of Tacuarí.

- 1815 – Francis Ronalds describes the first battery-operated clock in the Philosophical Magazine.

- 1831 – The French Foreign Legion is established by King Louis Philippe to support his war in Algeria.

- 1841 – The U.S. Supreme Court rules in the United States v. The Amistad case that captive Africans who had seized control of the ship carrying them had been taken into slavery illegally.

- 1842 – Giuseppe Verdi's third opera, Nabucco, receives its première performance in Milan; its success establishes Verdi as one of Italy's foremost opera writers.

- 1842 – The first documented discovery of gold in California occurs at Rancho San Francisco, six years before the California Gold Rush.

- 1847 – Mexican–American War: The first large-scale amphibious assault in U.S. history is launched in the Siege of Veracruz.

- 1862 – American Civil War: The USS Monitor and CSS Virginia fight to a draw in the Battle of Hampton Roads, the first battle between two ironclad warships.

- 1896 – Prime Minister Francesco Crispi resigns following the Italian defeat at the Battle of Adwa.

- 1908 – Inter Milan was founded on Football Club Internazionale, following a schism from the Milan Cricket and Football Club.

- 1910 – The Westmoreland County coal strike, involving 15,000 coal miners represented by the United Mine Workers, begins.

- 1916 – Mexican Revolution: Pancho Villa leads nearly 500 Mexican raiders in an attack against the border town of Columbus, New Mexico.

- 1925 – Pink's War: The first Royal Air Force operation conducted independently of the British Army or Royal Navy begins.

- 1933 – Great Depression: President Franklin D. Roosevelt submits the Emergency Banking Act to Congress, the first of his New Deal policies.

- 1942 – World War II: Dutch East Indies, represented by KNIL Commander in Chief Lieutenant General Hein Ter Poorten, unconditionally surrendered to the Japanese forces in Kalijati, Subang, West Java, and Japanese completed their Dutch East Indies campaign.

- 1944 – World War II: Japanese troops counter-attack American forces on Hill 700 in Bougainville in a five-day battle.

- 1944 – World War II: Soviet Army planes attack Tallinn, Estonia.

- 1945 – World War II: The first nocturnal incendiary attack on Tokyo inflicts damage comparable to that inflicted on both Hiroshima and Nagasaki five months later.

- 1945 – World War II: A coup d'état by Japanese forces in French Indochina removes the French from power.

- 1946 – Bolton Wanderers stadium disaster at Burnden Park, Bolton, England, kills 33 and injures hundreds more.

- 1954 – McCarthyism: CBS television broadcasts the See It Now episode, "A Report on Senator Joseph McCarthy", produced by Fred Friendly.

- 1956 – Soviet forces suppress mass demonstrations in the Georgian SSR, reacting to Nikita Khrushchev's de-Stalinization policy.

- 1957 – The 8.6 Mw Andreanof Islands earthquake shakes the Aleutian Islands with a maximum Mercalli intensity of VIII (Severe), causing $5 million in damage from ground movement and a destructive tsunami that affected Hawaii, where two people were killed in a plane crash while documenting its arrival.

- 1959 – The Barbie doll makes its debut at the American International Toy Fair in New York.

- 1960 – Dr. Belding Hibbard Scribner implants for the first time a shunt he invented into a patient, which allows the patient to receive hemodialysis on a regular basis.

- 1961 – Sputnik 9 successfully launches, carrying a human dummy nicknamed Ivan Ivanovich, and demonstrating that Soviet Union was ready to begin human spaceflight.

- 1967 – Trans World Airlines Flight 553, a Douglas DC-9-15, crashes in a field in Concord Township, Ohio following a mid-air collision with a Beechcraft Baron, killing 26.

- 1976 – Forty-two people died in the 1976 Cavalese cable car disaster, the worst cable-car accident to date.

- 1977 – The Hanafi Siege: In a thirty-nine-hour standoff, armed Hanafi Muslims seize three Washington, D.C., buildings, killing two and taking 149 hostage.

- 1978 – President Soeharto inaugurated Jagorawi Toll Road, the first toll highway in Indonesia, connecting Jakarta, Bogor and Ciawi, West Java.

- 1982 – "Krononauts" hosted an event in Baltimore, Maryland asking time-travelers to meet and demonstrate future science methods of Time travel.

- 1997 – Comet Hale–Bopp: Observers in China, Mongolia and eastern Siberia are treated to a rare double feature as an eclipse permits Hale-Bopp to be seen during the day.

- 2011 – Space Shuttle Discovery makes its final landing after 39 flights.

- 2012 – At least 130 rockets are fired into Israel from Gaza; 12 Palestinians militants are killed as part of the latest escalation in violence in the region.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1454 – Amerigo Vespucci, Italian cartographer and explorer, namesake of the American continent

- 1890 – Vyacheslav Molotov, Russian politician and diplomat, Soviet Minister of Foreign Affairs

- 1910 – Samuel Barber, American pianist and composer

- 1915 – Johnnie Johnson, English air marshal and pilot

- 1923 – Walter Kohn, Austrian-American physicist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1924 – Peter Scholl-Latour, German journalist, author, and academic

- 1926 – Joe Franklin, American radio and television host

- 1930 – Ornette Coleman, American saxophonist, violinist, trumpet player, and composer

- 1934 – Yuri Gagarin, Russian colonel, pilot, and astronaut, first human in space

- 1943 – Bobby Fischer, American chess player and author

- 1945 – Katja Ebstein, German singer

- 1959 – Giovanni di Lorenzo, Swedish-German journalist

- 1959 – Takaaki Kajita, Japanese physicist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1964 – Juliette Binoche, French actress

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Quote of the day

A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination.

- Nelson Mandela -

Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.

Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Minnesota Dakota, Yukona, Oghuzs

Aldaur wrote:Can we do a War of the Roses style medieval roleplay?

If there's interest I'd plan the sh!t out of this, I have my medieval nation ([nation=short]Veritious[/nation]) ready to go.

Ludania, Jaslandia, Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

My rent is going down but my mum's is going up.

Penguania And Antarctica

REGIONAL SONG OF THE DAY

Day 12: Creedence Clearwater Revival Festival - "Fortunate Son" (link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40JmEj0_aVM)

Suggestion courtesy of [nation=short]Maurician[/nation]

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Magnatronia

The Empire Of Handland wrote:Hate to burst your bubble kiddo, but our debt is already too big. Trillions of dollars owed mostly to the Chinese for cheap products. As for borrowing money, I agree mostly, but at the same time people need loans to buy houses, but that does not increase productivity. There's ups and downs to both sides of it.

How old are you? Lol

Yes, our debt is too big, but it isn't so big that we can't handle it. If we start now, we can reverse the trend. We have the same amount of debt as we did during WW2. That makes it the largest peace time debt in our history. It must be dealt with.

On borrowing loand to buy a house, no. If you don't have the money to buy something for yourself that does not make more money, then you shouldn't buy it. Don't spend more than what you make. It is pretty common sense. I will say however, that I have a new Homestead Act in my mind that I would like to implement that would allocate a small plot of land and cheap housing to everyone so that they can have their own private property. That is of course a very simplified version of what I'd like to see, but it wouldn't be that expensive, it'd be a great investment and it would solve things like homelessness and our massive social welfare spending.

Aghrabia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Aldaur wrote:How old are you? Lol

Yes, our debt is too big, but it isn't so big that we can't handle it. If we start now, we can reverse the trend. We have the same amount of debt as we did during WW2. That makes it the largest peace time debt in our history. It must be dealt with.

On borrowing loand to buy a house, no. If you don't have the money to buy something for yourself that does not make more money, then you shouldn't buy it. Don't spend more than what you make. It is pretty common sense. I will say however, that I have a new Homestead Act in my mind that I would like to implement that would allocate a small plot of land and cheap housing to everyone so that they can have their own private property. That is of course a very simplified version of what I'd like to see, but it wouldn't be that expensive, it'd be a great investment and it would solve things like homelessness and our massive social welfare spending.

Ron Paul 2012!

Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica

Yukona wrote:Ron Paul 2012!

Al Daur 2056!

Aghrabia, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica

Oelesa wrote:Wasn't that with the Nobles and everything? I don't remember much if it.

Basically real life version of Game of Thrones :p Lancasters vs Yorks fighting for the throne. Mysterious Tudor comes along and kicks their butts.

Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica

Aldaur wrote:How old are you? Lol

Yes, our debt is too big, but it isn't so big that we can't handle it. If we start now, we can reverse the trend. We have the same amount of debt as we did during WW2. That makes it the largest peace time debt in our history. It must be dealt with.

How old are you? No offence, but it's quite naive of you to think that they actually will.

Aldaur wrote:Basically real life version of Game of Thrones :p Lancasters vs Yorks fighting for the throne. Mysterious Tudor comes along and kicks their butts.

Basically.

Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica

Aldaur wrote:How old are you? Lol

Yes, our debt is too big, but it isn't so big that we can't handle it. If we start now, we can reverse the trend. We have the same amount of debt as we did during WW2. That makes it the largest peace time debt in our history. It must be dealt with.

On borrowing loand to buy a house, no. If you don't have the money to buy something for yourself that does not make more money, then you shouldn't buy it. Don't spend more than what you make. It is pretty common sense. I will say however, that I have a new Homestead Act in my mind that I would like to implement that would allocate a small plot of land and cheap housing to everyone so that they can have their own private property. That is of course a very simplified version of what I'd like to see, but it wouldn't be that expensive, it'd be a great investment and it would solve things like homelessness and our massive social welfare spending.

I don't think I'd ever consider this peace time, but ok. The problem is that it would be way too hard to reverse this. We'd have to stop buying from the Chinese, and that would collapse the country. Big business doesn't want to move factories back here because of our laws on labor and workers rights. We need another Henry Clay and American System to get us out of this.

On borrowing, then good luck with building probably millions of apartment complexes if that's your idea. Lending is an essential part of society because it goes hand in hand with banking. If you take away the ability to lend money to buy houses, then that just means more and more apartments, and that means cities growing even more. If that's the case, we'll be looking like we're in India in no time.

Aghrabia, Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica

The Empire Of Handland wrote:I don't think I'd ever consider this peace time, but ok. The problem is that it would be way too hard to reverse this. We'd have to stop buying from the Chinese, and that would collapse the country. Big business doesn't want to move factories back here because of our laws on labor and workers rights. We need another Henry Clay and American System to get us out of this.

On borrowing, then good luck with building probably millions of apartment complexes if that's your idea. Lending is an essential part of society because it goes hand in hand with banking. If you take away the ability to lend money to buy houses, then that just means more and more apartments, and that means cities growing even more. If that's the case, we'll be looking like we're in India in no time.

Too much words make head hurt.

Aghrabia, Yukona, Solla Ultima

Man that ITDA alliance takes us literally nowhere! :P

Penguania And Antarctica

How are you all doing ?

Jaslandia, Latrovia

Latest news in the UK:

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Aghrabia wrote:How old are you? No offence, but it's quite naive of you to think that they actually will.

Basically.

I am 21. I asked because I thought it would be funny that someone who is likely younger than me calling me kiddo :p It wasn't meant to be offensive :p

I never said I think that people in office will, just that we have to start tackling the debt. I never said that there was a plan in place to do so by the people currently in office.

The Empire Of Handland wrote:I don't think I'd ever consider this peace time, but ok.

We are not at war. The war on terrorism doesn't count. We haven't been at war since WW2. Everything else is just a conflict. That isn't to understate the severity of these conflicts, but technically, we have peace time debt, and that is how it is officially classified.

The Empire Of Handland wrote: The problem is that it would be way too hard to reverse this. We'd have to stop buying from the Chinese, and that would collapse the country. Big business doesn't want to move factories back here because of our laws on labor and workers rights. We need another Henry Clay and American System to get us out of this.

Why would we have to stop buying from the Chinese? Trade policy and the American System of Economics has very little to do with the national debt. While I am in favor of decreasing the amount outsourced to other countries, that has more to do with improving our own dynamism in our labour market.

I suggest you read this great article from the Cato Institute on the National Debt for a greater understanding of it and our history:

https://www.cato.org/publications/testimony/need-balance-budget-reduce-federal-debt

Assuming you read the article, I shall continue. What causes our national debt to grow is irresponsible borrowing from private companies and foreign powers. This would be fine if we used the money we borrow on investment plans that help increase GDP and eventually allow us to pay off that debt with ease. The problem is that we spend what we borrow on consumption spending that make no profit for us. This would be things like social security, medicaid and other social welfare programs. We spend it there because we have created a social obligation for our government to do so. The fact is though, it is incredibly unsustainable and is one of the chief causes why we have accumulated so much debt. To say it in short, we accumulate long term national debt to satisfy the excesses of our annual deficit. If we want to begin working towards the national debt, we have to end unsustainable programs or make them sustainable some how, either of which will be very unpopular but necessary. We have to remind people that fiscal responsibility and frugality is ethical and good for the maintenance of our liberty. We cannot be a free nation if we are forever indebted to other people. On a more practical note, we also will lose our credit worthy status if we can't show we can pay off our debts. In the interest of being able to keeping borrowing in the future, we must show we can pay it off.

The Empire Of Handland wrote:

On borrowing, then good luck with building probably millions of apartment complexes if that's your idea. Lending is an essential part of society because it goes hand in hand with banking. If you take away the ability to lend money to buy houses, then that just means more and more apartments, and that means cities growing even more. If that's the case, we'll be looking like we're in India in no time.

Not apartment complexes, but individual plots of land with a single story 3D printed house that costs about $11k right now to build, have all appliances (water, electricity, etc.), and takes into account for labour and supply costs. In the future (about 40 years from now), it will be significantly cheaper. Building these homes for people and giving them their own private plot of land will allow people to be self sustainable, increase their disposable income and take them off social welfare programs, saving the government much more money in the long run so we can pay off our debt. You wouldn't need to borrow money for it on an individual basis because it would be given to you to make your own for the duration of your life. The government would have to borrow some money to make this happen, but it is an investment that will increase our general productivity, and thus pur ability to pay off our debt, so it is actually a good plan for the future. If an individual wants a bigger house or more land than they are given, they can pay for it themselves, but they do not need to borrow for it. In addition, since cheap land and housing is readily available, houses will become much cheaper in general to attract buyers, which means people will borrow less or not at all for unproductive means. Banks will still make a lot of profit, but it will be safer profit, as they will lend to people who will be more likely to make a greater return.

So no, we won't end up looking like India, and even with hyper urbanization, equating the US to India in living standards is a gross exaggeration. India has many other problems that contribute to their national poverty, and it has little to nothing to do with their lending practices.

Jaslandia

Aghrabia wrote:How old are you? No offence, but it's quite naive of you to think that they actually will.

Basically.

Hes in his 20's if I'm not mistaken.

I dont wanna get into the debate, but I wanted to clear things up.

Aghrabia, Aldaur, Yukona

Aghrabia wrote:REGIONAL SONG OF THE DAY

Day 12: Creedence Clearwater Revival Festival - "Fortunate Son" (link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40JmEj0_aVM)

Suggestion courtesy of [nation=short]Maurician[/nation]

Interesting fact: While popular legends claim the song is about Al Gore Jr. or George W. Bush, it's actually about David Eisenhower, grandson of U.S. President and general Dwight Eisenhower.

http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/fortunate.asp

Aldaur wrote:How old are you? Lol

Yes, our debt is too big, but it isn't so big that we can't handle it. If we start now, we can reverse the trend. We have the same amount of debt as we did during WW2. That makes it the largest peace time debt in our history. It must be dealt with.

On borrowing loand to buy a house, no. If you don't have the money to buy something for yourself that does not make more money, then you shouldn't buy it. Don't spend more than what you make. It is pretty common sense. I will say however, that I have a new Homestead Act in my mind that I would like to implement that would allocate a small plot of land and cheap housing to everyone so that they can have their own private property. That is of course a very simplified version of what I'd like to see, but it wouldn't be that expensive, it'd be a great investment and it would solve things like homelessness and our massive social welfare spending.

While our debit is a big number, and I think some measures to lower the debt would be a good idea, debt isn't too terrible when it comes to nations. How much we can borrow as a nation is how much lenders trust us to pay it back, and lenders have a fairly decent amount of confidence in the U.S. abilities' to pay back its debts, and rightfully so. There is such a thing as too much debt, certainly, but where that point lies is arguable.

https://youtu.be/3ugDU2qNcyg

https://youtu.be/_7Xtj04QiQg

Also, I'm not sure what a new Homestead Act would accomplish at this point. When we passed the original one, much of the Western U.S. was empty and open to settlement (well, unless you count Native Americans, which late-19th-century Americans certainly did not). Nowadays, almost all of that land is claimed. Any remaining unclaimed land is most likely land no one would want even if you gave it to them for free, like in freezing northern Alaska. Plus, with today's economic system, I think big corporations would be far more likely to benefit from a Homestead Act than the average American.

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:How are you all doing ?

Hey Peng! I'm good. How are you?

Aghrabia, Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Jaslandia wrote:

Hey Peng! I'm good. How are you?

I'm good. Bored tho. And lonely.

Jaslandia

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:I'm good. Bored tho. And lonely.

Sorry to hear that. Hope you feel better soon!

Penguania And Antarctica

One complaint: about Baxten. He used the so-called'' Kurdistan ''(!) name for some of the land of the Turkish people in telegram. He must apologize.

Jaslandia wrote:

While our debit is a big number, and I think some measures to lower the debt would be a good idea, debt isn't too terrible when it comes to nations. How much we can borrow as a nation is how much lenders trust us to pay it back, and lenders have a fairly decent amount of confidence in the U.S. abilities' to pay back its debts, and rightfully so. There is such a thing as too much debt, certainly, but where that point lies is arguable.

https://youtu.be/3ugDU2qNcyg

https://youtu.be/_7Xtj04QiQg

What Mr. Green (I can't remember his first name atm) said is true, he is severely downplaying the problem it will have in the future. Yes, the world trusts us right now, but that has mostly to do with our ability to secure global trade with our military. If we are to suddenly suffer from a massive defeat, or we turn inwards (cough* America First Policies under Trump cough*), we could lose that global trust. We also have to understand that while most of the debt is borrwed from our future selves, future generations will have to tighten their belts for our irresponsible spending. Not to mention that over 30% of that debt is still owned by foreign powers, which is still a lot. The way he explains it in the video, he is creating a mindset that it is okay to not worry about the debt. While it is not a crisis now, we don't want to wait until it becomes one. We should be proactively eliminating problems. On a final note, running a deficit and accumulating debt can be good if we spend it on investments that increase productivity. It is okay to borrow then, but if we are borrowing for consumption spending, that is very bad and irresponsible. In that respect, unless we are planning to invest, we should always have a balanced budget.

Jaslandia wrote:

Also, I'm not sure what a new Homestead Act would accomplish at this point. When we passed the original one, much of the Western U.S. was empty and open to settlement (well, unless you count Native Americans, which late-19th-century Americans certainly did not). Nowadays, almost all of that land is claimed. Any remaining unclaimed land is most likely land no one would want even if you gave it to them for free, like in freezing northern Alaska. Plus, with today's economic system, I think big corporations would be far more likely to benefit from a Homestead Act than the average American.

I just am calling it the New Homestead Act for lack of a better name :p It's not a new rendition of the old plan, but it takes land that the government currently owns and does nothing with (excluding national parks), buys up extremely cheap land, and uses eminent domain in certain states to turn that land into private property for individuals. Corporations would not be able to use this, only individual people. In addition, all homeless and people on social welfare programs will be moved and given these plots of land, everyone else has the choice to take advantage of the New Homestead Act, and those in the upper tax brackets will be heavily penalized for moving to these areas.

Jaslandia

Oghuzs wrote:One complaint: about Baxten. He used the so-called'' Kurdistan ''(!) name for some of the land of the Turkish people in telegram. He must apologize.

Why?

Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Aldaur wrote:I just am calling it the New Homestead Act for lack of a better name :p It's not a new rendition of the old plan, but it takes land that the government currently owns and does nothing with (excluding national parks), buys up extremely cheap land, and uses eminent domain in certain states to turn that land into private property for individuals. Corporations would not be able to use this, only individual people. In addition, all homeless and people on social welfare programs will be moved and given these plots of land, everyone else has the choice to take advantage of the New Homestead Act, and those in the upper tax brackets will be heavily penalized for moving to these areas.

I see. Even if such land was available, it could pose a massive logistical problem. For one thing, the vast majority of government land is out West, so either people out West will disproportionately benefit from a New Homestead Act, or people would be forcibly relocated far from their homes (which I'm pretty sure people wouldn't be happy with, because, you know, freedom). Perhaps if you're given land, but you don't want it or can't live there, you can be allowed to sell it? It would still help people and stimulate the economy by putting money in people's pockets.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/Map_of_all_U.S._Federal_Land.jpg/450px-Map_of_all_U.S._Federal_Land.jpg

Aldaur

Aldaur wrote:What Mr. Green (I can't remember his first name atm) said is true, he is severely downplaying the problem it will have in the future. Yes, the world trusts us right now, but that has mostly to do with our ability to secure global trade with our military. If we are to suddenly suffer from a massive defeat, or we turn inwards (cough* America First Policies under Trump cough*)

Just gonna note, it's highly unlikely/near impossible for America to suffer such a defeat.

The only real power that can challenge us would be China -frankly, Russia is cool and all, but they would be absolutely ruined in a actual war seeing as they hardly even have an effective navy- and China both wouldn't and couldn't since they'd get trounced in the naval arena and happen to have us owing money.

We're still in danger of turning too far inward, mind you, but on the military side we're set.

Jaslandia, Aldaur

Oghuzs wrote:One complaint: about Baxten. He used the so-called'' Kurdistan ''(!) name for some of the land of the Turkish people in telegram. He must apologize.

Kurdistan. Armenia. Pontus. Turanists ain't gonna like me, pal.

Got my Muslim nation. The Shah is gonna' make Farahan great again.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Yukona wrote:Kurdistan. Armenia. Pontus. Turanists ain't gonna like me, pal.

I think the whole debate is just stupid. It's obviously called Bithynia and Pontus. Anyone who disagrees is a barbarian who needs to be quashed by the 12th Legion!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bithynia_and_Pontus

[B]#RomaForever[/B]

Penguania And Antarctica

Yukona wrote:Kurdistan. Armenia. Pontus. Turanists ain't gonna like me, pal.

B!tches ain't touching my Gulen, I don't care who they are

Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Post self-deleted by Aghrabia.

Jaslandia wrote:I see. Even if such land was available, it could pose a massive logistical problem. For one thing, the vast majority of government land is out West, so either people out West will disproportionately benefit from a New Homestead Act, or people would be forcibly relocated far from their homes (which I'm pretty sure people wouldn't be happy with, because, you know, freedom). Perhaps if you're given land, but you don't want it or can't live there, you can be allowed to sell it? It would still help people and stimulate the economy by putting money in people's pockets.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/Map_of_all_U.S._Federal_Land.jpg/450px-Map_of_all_U.S._Federal_Land.jpg

Like I said, they had a choice if they wanted it or not. They can't sell it though, as that would defeat the purpose. It would just be given to someone else. Hopefully, free land and housing would be enough to incentivize people to move. The problem with our labour market is that people are unwilling to move to where there is opportunity like before. This should hopefully encourage that. There is also a lot more land than you think in what is considered dense states. It wouldn't take that much land to do this either. We're not giving people whole farms, we are giving them a small plot of land to grow enough food to sustain themselves or their budget. It is just enough to make people more independent.

Kalaron wrote:Just gonna note, it's highly unlikely/near impossible for America to suffer such a defeat.

The only real power that can challenge us would be China -frankly, Russia is cool and all, but they would be absolutely ruined in a actual war seeing as they hardly even have an effective navy- and China both wouldn't and couldn't since they'd get trounced in the naval arena and happen to have us owing money.

We're still in danger of turning too far inward, mind you, but on the military side we're set.

Oh absolutely. Right now, we are virtually invincible (just not cyberlly so :p puns....). However, we don't know what could happen in the future. We may not be a super power forever. We could have another recession or depression, or another sequestration, and end up reducing our military to a point where we aren't so strong. However, I would agree that the greater threat is turning inward.

Sulania wrote:B!tches ain't touching my Gulen, I don't care who they are

The next day: Erdogan complains to American Ambassador about comment posted on a nation simulator website.

After all, Erdogan already complained to the German Ambassador after a satirical anti-Erdogan poem broadcasted on German TV, so the above doesn't out of the question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%B6hmermann_affair

Aghrabia

Yukona wrote:Kurdistan. Armenia. Pontus. Turanists ain't gonna like me, pal.

Armenians of Turkish enemy; In 1915, our country was exiled! Invasive Greeks; In 1922 he drowned in the Aegean Sea. Pontus: It was a funny dream. It is possible to divide the territories of the Turkish Nationalists, Turan?

This is not racism! Our princess in the War of Independence was good. "Governments are our enemies, nations are our friends." Today, too. Armenians, Greeks, Kurds are our friends. 'Big Armenianists', 'Greek Asia-minorists' and those who imagine 'kurdistan' in Turkey soil are our enemies.

Aldaur wrote:Like I said, they had a choice if they wanted it or not. They can't sell it though, as that would defeat the purpose. It would just be given to someone else. Hopefully, free land and housing would be enough to incentivize people to move. The problem with our labour market is that people are unwilling to move to where there is opportunity like before. This should hopefully encourage that. There is also a lot more land than you think in what is considered dense states. It wouldn't take that much land to do this either. We're not giving people whole farms, we are giving them a small plot of land to grow enough food to sustain themselves or their budget. It is just enough to make people more independent.

I get what you're saying, but humans aren't machines, and there's a lot more that goes into deciding to move than just economic oppurtunity: proximity to relatives who could provide support, quality of schools, whether it's a good place to raise a family, attachment to your current community, etc. With all that, and continued economic anxiety despite improvements in the overall economy, it's no wonder people are reluctant to move. People would be more likely to move if they were less anxious economically, so a solution like this might be putting the cart before the horse. On the other hand, solving 'economic anxiety' would be quite difficult, as it's something that's hard to measure and judge, so I don't know.

Also, in this day and age, I don't think people will be satisfied with just a small garden to feed themselves. Let me put it this way: pizza doesn't grow on trees, nor do French fries, ice cream, lollipops, etc. And if they still go to the grocery store to feed themselves, I wouldn't consider that self-sufficient. People might find it nice to grow their own fresh tomatoes and fresh lettuce, but they wouldn't be using those foods to sustain themselves; it would just be a nice bonus.

Aldaur

Oghuzs wrote:Armenians of Turkish enemy; In 1915, our country was exiled! Invasive Greeks; In 1922 he drowned in the Aegean Sea. Pontus: It was a funny dream. It is possible to divide the territories of the Turkish Nationalists, Turan?

This is not racism! Our princess in the War of Independence was good. "Governments are our enemies, nations are our friends." Today, too. Armenians, Greeks, Kurds are our friends. 'Big Armenianists', 'Greek Asia-minorists' and those who imagine 'kurdistan' in Turkey soil are our enemies.

Their are enemies so let's genocide the f**k out of them. Hey, that went well for all countries who tried that method of foreign policy. Be right back, going to take a visit to that French family down the road from me and gun down their 4 year old daughter in front of their eyes.

"Invasive Greeks". How ironic. Learn your own history pleb.

Jaslandia, Aghrabia

Jaslandia wrote:I get what you're saying, but humans aren't machines, and there's a lot more that goes into deciding to move than just economic oppurtunity: proximity to relatives who could provide support, quality of schools, whether it's a good place to raise a family, attachment to your current community, etc. With all that, and continued economic anxiety despite improvements in the overall economy, it's no wonder people are reluctant to move. People would be more likely to move if they were less anxious economically, so a solution like this might be putting the cart before the horse. On the other hand, solving 'economic anxiety' would be quite difficult, as it's something that's hard to measure and judge, so I don't know.

Also, in this day and age, I don't think people will be satisfied with just a small garden to feed themselves. Let me put it this way: pizza doesn't grow on trees, nor do French fries, ice cream, lollipops, etc. And if they still go to the grocery store to feed themselves, I wouldn't consider that self-sufficient. People might find it nice to grow their own fresh tomatoes and fresh lettuce, but they wouldn't be using those foods to sustain themselves; it would just be a nice bonus.

I understand people's reluctance to move, but that doesn't change the fact that they need to and that they use to much more frequently.

We need to change the culture of consumption so that people can sustain themselves. If they choose not to, that is their choice, but they can't expect to get handouts anymore if they have the means to produce what they need for themselves. You don't need to eat pizzas. That is a luxury.

Yukona wrote:Their are

They are*

Yukona wrote:Their are enemies so let's genocide the f**k out of them. Hey, that went well for all countries who tried that method of foreign policy. Be right back, going to take a visit to that French family down the road from me and gun down their 4 year old daughter in front of their eyes.

"Invasive Greeks". How ironic. Learn your own history pleb.

We used to have a guy here who was of Greek descent and hated Turks. Now we have a Turk who hates Greeks.

Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Aldaur

Nuremgard wrote:We used to have a guy here who was of Greek descent and hated Turks. Now we have a Turk who hates Greeks.

Aeotosia? When we first met we had a jolly ol' time. Shoulda seen us during the Turkish quasi-coup back along. We had the widest smiles of em' all.

Jaslandia

Aldaur wrote:I understand people's reluctance to move, but that doesn't change the fact that they need to and that they use to much more frequently.

We need to change the culture of consumption so that people can sustain themselves. If they choose not to, that is their choice, but they can't expect to get handouts anymore if they have the means to produce what they need for themselves. You don't need to eat pizzas. That is a luxury.

Depends on what you mean by 'luxury'; technically, you only need some gruel, water, a cardboard box, and a few rags to survive, but I doubt anyone wants to actually live that lifestyle. It's one thing to be frugal and live simply, but it's quite another to reject basically all advances in modern food preparation (heck, not even modern food technology, since pizza has been around since the late 19th century) for what I see as no apparent reason. I think self-sufficiency for its own sake is just pointless if your standards of living suffer for it. Advances in farming means not everyone needs to grow their own food in order to survive.

Aghrabia, Aldaur

Yukona wrote:Aeotosia? When we first met we had a jolly ol' time. Shoulda seen us during the Turkish quasi-coup back along. We had the widest smiles of em' all.

Oh, aye, that was his name.

Jaslandia, Yukona

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Yukona wrote:

"Invasive Greeks". How ironic. Learn your own history pleb.

Well, depends on how far back you go. Alexander the Great was an 'invasive Greek', but I thought everyone had gotten over that by now.

Nuremgard, Aghrabia

Jaslandia wrote:Well, depends on how far back you go. Alexander the Great was an 'invasive Greek', but I thought everyone had gotten over that by now.

He was such a dick lol. Instead of naming a successor, he bequeathed his empire "to the strongest."

Jaslandia, Aghrabia

I'm leaving this region. Because some of them are enemies of the Turks. Some insult the elected Turkish President. I do not accept this. You are prejudicing the Muslims and the Turks. In 1922, Greece was an invader. The issue of genocide is a complete prejudice. We are friends of every nation. Always is. We have never done colonialism. We do not have this in our history. But it is in the history of europe and american. We were against imperialism yesterday and today. This should be known.

Oghuzs wrote:I'm leaving this region. Because some of them are enemies of the Turks. Some insult the elected Turkish President. I do not accept this. You are prejudicing the Muslims and the Turks. In 1922, Greece was an invader. The issue of genocide is a complete prejudice. We are friends of every nation. Always is. We have never done colonialism. We do not have this in our history. But it is in the history of europe and american. We were against imperialism yesterday and today. This should be known.

Never done colonialism? Ever heard of a little thing called the Ottoman Empire?

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica

Oghuzs wrote:I'm leaving this region. Because some of them are enemies of the Turks. Some insult the elected Turkish President. I do not accept this. You are prejudicing the Muslims and the Turks. In 1922, Greece was an invader. The issue of genocide is a complete prejudice. We are friends of every nation. Always is. We have never done colonialism. We do not have this in our history. But it is in the history of europe and american. We were against imperialism yesterday and today. This should be known.

Shut the door on your way out, I'll be over to Constantinople soon to pay you a visit and educate you on genocide denial.

Aldaur, New Jailand

Nuremgard wrote:He was such a dick lol. Instead of naming a successor, he bequeathed his empire "to the strongest."

I don't consider Alexander to be too big a d*ck; compared to other conquerors, he seemed fairly honorable and noble. The whole 'my empire will go to the strongest' thing was a d*ck move, though, which I attribute to Alexander's delusions of invincibility, lack of planning (a product of the first factor), and just a desire to die dramatically.

Oghuzs wrote:I'm leaving this region. Because some of them are enemies of the Turks. Some insult the elected Turkish President. I do not accept this. You are prejudicing the Muslims and the Turks. In 1922, Greece was an invader. The issue of genocide is a complete prejudice. We are friends of every nation. Always is. We have never done colonialism. We do not have this in our history. But it is in the history of europe and american. We were against imperialism yesterday and today. This should be known.

Whoa, calm down dude. We were just making a few casual comments, but you're acting like we went into several speeches about why the Turkish people suck. Still, if you're going to be insulted over minor comments like these, than maybe it is best that you leave, and go someplace where you'll find people who agree with you.

Aghrabia, Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica

Yukona wrote:Shut the door on your way out, I'll be over to [B]Constantinople[/B] soon to pay you a visit and educate you on genocide denial.

Don't you mean Istanbul? It used to be Constantinople, but then it got the works. However, that's nobody's business but the Turks.

https://youtu.be/vsQrKZcYtqg

Jaslandia wrote:I don't consider Alexander to be too big a d*ck; compared to other conquerors, he seemed fairly honorable and noble. The whole 'my empire will go to the strongest' thing was a d*ck move, though, which I attribute to Alexander's delusions of invincibility, lack of planning (a product of the first factor), and just a desire to die dramatically.

Whoa, calm down dude. We were just making a few casual comments, but you're acting like we went into several speeches about why the Turkish people suck. Still, if you're going to be insulted over minor comments like these, than maybe it is best that you leave, and go someplace where you'll find people who agree with you.

I know his general Ptolemy got Egypt but who got the rest of the empire?

Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica

Oghuzs wrote:I'm leaving this region. Because some of them are enemies of the Turks. Some insult the elected Turkish President. I do not accept this. You are prejudicing the Muslims and the Turks. In 1922, Greece was an invader. The issue of genocide is a complete prejudice. We are friends of every nation. Always is. We have never done colonialism. We do not have this in our history. But it is in the history of europe and american. We were against imperialism yesterday and today. This should be known.

Say hello to freedom of speech. I know y'all don't have that in Turkey with that tyrant Erdogan, but please, we wouldn't want other opinions to inconvenience you.

Good day.

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:Never done colonialism? Ever heard of a little thing called the Ottoman Empire?

The ottoman empire did not have "colonies". It had Muslim peoples united under the flag of the Ottoman Caliphate. tell me . Which old Turkish land is spoken in turkish? But on the other hand. Speaks all south american spanish. There are also old colonial countries speaking the English language in the world.

Oghuzs wrote:The ottoman empire did not have "colonies". It had Muslim peoples united under the flag of the Ottoman Caliphate. tell me . Which old Turkish land is spoken in turkish? But on the other hand. Speaks all south american spanish. There are also old colonial countries speaking the English language in the world.

The Ottomans conquered many lands and peoples. That's imperialism.

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Aldaur, Yukona

Nuremgard wrote:I know his general Ptolemy got Egypt but who got the rest of the empire?

Antipater got Macedonia (though Antipater was later replaced by Cassander), Seleucus got most of the former Persian Empire, and Thrace and Asia Minor were contested.

https://weaponsandwarfare.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/diadochen1.jpeg

Nuremgard, Aghrabia

Oghuzs wrote:The ottoman empire did not have "colonies". It had Muslim peoples united under the flag of the Ottoman Caliphate. tell me . Which old Turkish land is spoken in turkish? But on the other hand. Speaks all south american spanish. There are also old colonial countries speaking the English language in the world.

*cough* Janissary Corps *cough*

*cough cough* Wallachia *cough cough*

Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Aldaur

Jaslandia wrote:Don't you mean Istanbul? It used to be Constantinople, but then it got the works. However, that's nobody's business but the Turks.

https://youtu.be/vsQrKZcYtqg

As much as I hate the idea that song is classic

Jaslandia

Oghuzs wrote:The ottoman empire did not have "colonies". It had Muslim peoples united under the flag of the Ottoman Caliphate. tell me . Which old Turkish land is spoken in turkish? But on the other hand. Speaks all south american spanish. There are also old colonial countries speaking the English language in the world.

Get in the in mate, just get in the bin

Aghrabia, New Jailand

Oghuzs wrote:The ottoman empire did not have "colonies". It had [B]Muslim peoples[/B] united under the flag of the Ottoman Caliphate. tell me . Which old Turkish land is spoken in turkish? But on the other hand. Speaks all south american spanish. There are also old colonial countries speaking the English language in the world.

Except those Christians living in Greece and the Balkans. But, those might not count, since the Ottomans kidnapped a bunch of them as children and raised them to be Muslim soldiers or bureaucrats.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devshirme

I'm not saying the Ottomans were the most evil empire in history, and in some areas they were quite progressive and tolerant, but they committed their share of atrocities that you can't deny.

Nuremgard, Sulania, Aghrabia, Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:Except those Christians living in Greece and the Balkans. But, those might not count, since the Ottomans kidnapped a bunch of them as children and raised them to be Muslim soldiers or bureaucrats.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devshirme

I'm not saying the Ottomans were the most evil empire in history, and in some areas they were quite progressive and tolerant, but they committed their share of atrocities that you can't deny.

You have earned a Sul Like. Use it well

Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:Except those Christians living in Greece and the Balkans. But, those might not count, since the Ottomans kidnapped a bunch of them as children and raised them to be Muslim soldiers or bureaucrats.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devshirme

I'm not saying the Ottomans were the most evil empire in history, and in some areas they were quite progressive and tolerant, but they committed their share of atrocities that you can't deny.

And the Ottoman Empire was one of the biggest slave societies to ever exist.

Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

You guys are really hard at retaining new active members, lemme tell ya

Aghrabia, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:The Ottomans conquered many lands and peoples. That's imperialism.

Friend past passed. I am also not a lawyer of the ottoman empire. There are sins in the history of every nation. But the ottoman is relatively small. I mean, I'm not Neo-Ottomanist, fascist, racist. You can love me and turkish. If you know. :)

Oghuzs wrote:Friend past passed. I am also not a lawyer of the ottoman empire. There are sins in the history of every nation. But the ottoman is relatively small. I mean, I'm not Neo-Ottomanist, fascist, racist. You can love me and turkish. If you know. :)

Every nation has its sins but let's not get into a debate over which nation has the most checkered past. I would not call the crimes of the Ottomans "small", however.

Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Aldaur, Yukona

Sulania wrote:You have earned a Sul Like. Use it well

Thank you, Mighty One! I shall treasure forever.

Magnatronia wrote:You guys are really hard at retaining new active members, lemme tell ya

Under normal circumstances I'd agree, but at the same time, people shouldn't get a pass when it comes to incorrect assertions just because they're knew. When we see something we disagree with, we'll point it out.

Aghrabia, Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica, Magnatronia

Oghuzs wrote: There are sins in the history of every nation. But the ottoman is relatively small.

#RememberArmenianGenocide

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Aldaur wrote:#RememberArmenianGenocide

And the Greek too.

Nuremgard, Aghrabia, Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:Thank you, Mighty One! I shall treasure forever.

Under normal circumstances I'd agree, but at the same time, people shouldn't get a pass when it comes to incorrect assertions just because they're knew. When we see something we disagree with, we'll point it out.

#QualityOverQuantity

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

That's so funny to watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gneBUA39mnI

Jaslandia

OK. Last post at night. Now in Turkiye at night :). A Turkish proverb . "Love every living thing, love for a god". We also have a Mustafa Kemal Atatürk. Architect of democratic turkey. He also said that.For foreign soldiers killed in battle with the Turks

" The heroes who shed their blood and lost their lives on this country's soil! You are in the soil of a friendly country now. Therefore rest in peace. You are side by side with the little Mehmets. The mothers who send their sons to the war! Wipe your tears away. Your sons are in our bosom, are in peace and will be sleeping in peace comfortably. From now on, they have became our sons since they have lost their lives on this land."

Good nigt.

Sign: tolerant, humanist, peaceful, democratic turkish-muslim young

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:That's so funny to watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gneBUA39mnI

Ah yes. Bad Lip Reading always puts out some good stuff. Their NFL Bad Lip Readings are also very good, as are their other political ones.

Penguania And Antarctica

Aldaur wrote:Al Daur 2056!

It's kinda fun to think that most of us are gonna live to 2056 and longer. I'll remember you all lol.

Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Oelesa wrote:It's kinda fun to think that most of us are gonna live to 2056 and longer. I'll remember you all lol.

What's so special about 2056?

Aldaur, Magnatronia

Jaslandia wrote:What's so special about 2056?

2056 will be a leap year starting on Saturday. I don't know if that's special. *shrug*

Jaslandia, Aldaur

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:2056 will be a leap year starting on Saturday. I don't know if that's special. *shrug*

And I become 60 in 2056.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Aldaur

Jaslandia wrote:What's so special about 2056?

That's the year I am going to run for President in real life :p

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Aghrabia

Jaslandia wrote:What's so special about 2056?

Nothing, but its just the mystery of it. Like what does life have in store, you know?

Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Aldaur

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:And I become 60 in 2056.

Oh and regarding to the Star Trek lore 2056 will be 3 years after the end of the 3rd Word War. I don't like this thought. :(

Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Aldaur, Oelesa, Yukona

Aldaur wrote:That's the year I am going to run for President in real life :p

F*ck it. Just declare yourself Dictator like Julius Caesar. :P

Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Aldaur, Yukona

Aldaur wrote:I am 21. I asked because I thought it would be funny that someone who is likely younger than me calling me kiddo :p It wasn't meant to be offensive :p

I never said I think that people in office will, just that we have to start tackling the debt. I never said that there was a plan in place to do so by the people currently in office.

We are not at war. The war on terrorism doesn't count. We haven't been at war since WW2. Everything else is just a conflict. That isn't to understate the severity of these conflicts, but technically, we have peace time debt, and that is how it is officially classified.

Why would we have to stop buying from the Chinese? Trade policy and the American System of Economics has very little to do with the national debt. While I am in favor of decreasing the amount outsourced to other countries, that has more to do with improving our own dynamism in our labour market.

I suggest you read this great article from the Cato Institute on the National Debt for a greater understanding of it and our history:

https://www.cato.org/publications/testimony/need-balance-budget-reduce-federal-debt

Assuming you read the article, I shall continue. What causes our national debt to grow is irresponsible borrowing from private companies and foreign powers. This would be fine if we used the money we borrow on investment plans that help increase GDP and eventually allow us to pay off that debt with ease. The problem is that we spend what we borrow on consumption spending that make no profit for us. This would be things like social security, medicaid and other social welfare programs. We spend it there because we have created a social obligation for our government to do so. The fact is though, it is incredibly unsustainable and is one of the chief causes why we have accumulated so much debt. To say it in short, we accumulate long term national debt to satisfy the excesses of our annual deficit. If we want to begin working towards the national debt, we have to end unsustainable programs or make them sustainable some how, either of which will be very unpopular but necessary. We have to remind people that fiscal responsibility and frugality is ethical and good for the maintenance of our liberty. We cannot be a free nation if we are forever indebted to other people. On a more practical note, we also will lose our credit worthy status if we can't show we can pay off our debts. In the interest of being able to keeping borrowing in the future, we must show we can pay it off.

Not apartment complexes, but individual plots of land with a single story 3D printed house that costs about $11k right now to build, have all appliances (water, electricity, etc.), and takes into account for labour and supply costs. In the future (about 40 years from now), it will be significantly cheaper. Building these homes for people and giving them their own private plot of land will allow people to be self sustainable, increase their disposable income and take them off social welfare programs, saving the government much more money in the long run so we can pay off our debt. You wouldn't need to borrow money for it on an individual basis because it would be given to you to make your own for the duration of your life. The government would have to borrow some money to make this happen, but it is an investment that will increase our general productivity, and thus pur ability to pay off our debt, so it is actually a good plan for the future. If an individual wants a bigger house or more land than they are given, they can pay for it themselves, but they do not need to borrow for it. In addition, since cheap land and housing is readily available, houses will become much cheaper in general to attract buyers, which means people will borrow less or not at all for unproductive means. Banks will still make a lot of profit, but it will be safer profit, as they will lend to people who will be more likely to make a greater return.

So no, we won't end up looking like India, and even with hyper urbanization, equating the US to India in living standards is a gross exaggeration. India has many other problems that contribute to their national poverty, and it has little to nothing to do with their lending practices.

We may not be "at war" but with the amount we've spent on it and the lives it's costed, I'd say we're at war. The notion of having to issue a decree saying we're at war is pretty ridiculous. If you're fighting someone else, you're pretty much at war with that group. I wasn't say India's issues stem from borrowing, it's from their hyper urbanization which has lead to very poor conditions. You see, if you had said anything about the cheaper housing in the first place, your claims would have made much more sense. You need to start out with that. On trade, you miss my point with the American System. Let me explain what this idea was. The basics of it were to support American infrastructure like roads and canals, maintain a strong federal bank to help with the economy, and to raise high teriffs to protect American businesses. We owe money to the Chinese because of our trade policies. High teriffs would stop that and support American business and would stop the increase of debt to the Chinese. The issue is we don't have much business like we use to. The factories are pretty much gone, the mines are closing, and the only jobs that are abundant for the most part are pink collared jobs. We have become a pink collared society, and it's sad in my opinion. A nation cannot survive without industry, and our industry is gone. We need to protect what's left of it. We need to strive for autarky. That's what I meant.

Aghrabia, Aldaur

Oelesa wrote:Nothing, but its just the mystery of it. Like what does life have in store, you know?

I bet in the future, we'll all be listening to electronic music. And we'll have cyber eyes. And mecha arms.

Synergistic.

Aghrabia, Oelesa

Magnatronia wrote:I bet in the future, we'll all be listening to electronic music. And we'll have cyber eyes. And mecha arms.

Synergistic.

No.

Oelesa

Aghrabia wrote:No.

Megaman 2056

Aghrabia, Oelesa

Nuremgard wrote:F*ck it. Just declare yourself Dictator like Julius Caesar. :P

And then get stabbed 23 times on the floor of the Senate. Sounds like a great plan! /sarc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Julius_Caesar

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Jaslandia wrote:And then get stabbed 23 times on the floor of the Senate. Sounds like a great plan! /sarc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Julius_Caesar

Et tu, Jas?

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Magnatronia wrote:Megaman 2056

Stop. You need to stop. Seriously.

Oelesa

Aghrabia wrote:Stop. You need to stop. Seriously.

Try me boi

Aghrabia, Oelesa

Magnatronia wrote:Try me boi

U wanna start boI, you wanna START?!

Oelesa

Aghrabia wrote:U wanna start boI, you wanna START?!

BOI IMMA GO SPONGE BOB ON U

Aghrabia, Oelesa

The Empire Of Handland wrote:We may not be "at war" but with the amount we've spent on it and the lives it's costed, I'd say we're at war. The notion of having to issue a decree saying we're at war is pretty ridiculous. If you're fighting someone else, you're pretty much at war with that group. I wasn't say India's issues stem from borrowing, it's from their hyper urbanization which has lead to very poor conditions. You see, if you had said anything about the cheaper housing in the first place, your claims would have made much more sense. You need to start out with that. On trade, you miss my point with the American System. Let me explain what this idea was. The basics of it were to support American infrastructure like roads and canals, maintain a strong federal bank to help with the economy, and to raise high teriffs to protect American businesses. We owe money to the Chinese because of our trade policies. High teriffs would stop that and support American business and would stop the increase of debt to the Chinese. The issue is we don't have much business like we use to. The factories are pretty much gone, the mines are closing, and the only jobs that are abundant for the most part are pink collared jobs. We have become a pink collared society, and it's sad in my opinion. A nation cannot survive without industry, and our industry is gone. We need to protect what's left of it. We need to strive for autarky. That's what I meant.

What about the robots?

Aldaur

http://s15.zetaboards.com/COFN/topic/10139937/1/#new

Robots. Terrorists. Explosions. Machine guns. Cyborgs.

HOPE RIDES ALONE

Magnatronia wrote:http://s15.zetaboards.com/COFN/topic/10139937/1/#new

Robots. Terrorists. Explosions. Machine guns. Cyborgs.

HOPE RIDES ALONE

I had way too much fun making this post. Sorry if it's cringy, but idgaf tbh

Can we construct embassies with Republic Of Kekistan

New Jailand

Orcala wrote:Can we construct embassies with Republic Of Kekistan
Make a request with Minnesota Dakota

Vista Major wrote:Make a request with Minnesota Dakota

k

A question. How can We war in this game?

Oghuzs wrote:A question. How can We war in this game?

Its typically through a larger rp surrounded by more than just war, however if you have spot on the map you can declare war if the other nation wants to go to war as well.

https://youtu.be/Jgk3u44W2i4

Yukona wrote:Their are enemies so let's genocide the f**k out of them. Hey, that went well for all countries who tried that method of foreign policy. Be right back, going to take a visit to that French family down the road from me and gun down their 4 year old daughter in front of their eyes.

"Invasive Greeks". How ironic. Learn your own history pleb.

Damn Sonnnn, leave him alone, he's had enough.

Oghuzs wrote:I'm leaving this region. Because some of them are enemies of the Turks. Some insult the elected Turkish President. I do not accept this. You are prejudicing the Muslims and the Turks. In 1922, Greece was an invader. The issue of genocide is a complete prejudice. We are friends of every nation. Always is. We have never done colonialism. We do not have this in our history. But it is in the history of europe and american. We were against imperialism yesterday and today. This should be known.

If you can't accept criticism of your president, then you need to man up there, cause living in the US all I hear is criticism of my president, regardless of my stance.

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Yukona

The Empire Of Handland wrote:If you can't accept criticism of your president, then you need to man up there, cause living in the US all I hear is criticism of my president, regardless of my stance.

This need to be over now. Debating is boring. Of course, you can criticize the insult. You can criticize everything and every person.

Lurid accusations of priests involved in sex orgies, porn videos and prostitution have emerged from several parishes in Italy recently, sending shock waves all the way to the Vatican and challenging the high standards Pope Francis demands of clergy.

Looks like the priests of the RCC are very...holey. :P

Aghrabia, Yukona

Oghuzs wrote:This need to be over now. Debating is boring. Of course, you can criticize the insult. You can criticize everything and every person.

Correction: You have the right to be criticized without being ill.

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