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And you cant read between the lines.
They (Holyrood, Scottish Parliament) just got a referendum they wanted and chose to remain.
So, I feel the whole know your place is a bit out of line.
And that referendum is binding for all time? Written in blood was it? We'll have another referendum because it was in the SNP's manifesto.
Ha. Sturgeon and the SNP will be out before then. Just wait for Blue Ruth to get back from Maternity Leave ;)
British Civil War
Jaslandia, Yukona
Aw, mate. That statement shows you know sweet FA about Scottish politics. The SNP aren't going anywhere any time soon. If you think Rape Clause Ruth has any chance of being First Minister, you're dreaming.
Ah see, here is where we differ.
I don't think they should have the right to vote, all the time they're in prison.
Which means nothing when their tank industry hasn't been developed in a long while >.>
Unsurprisingly, if you don't work to keep something you fall behind? It costs money to reopen and improve those same facilities. If you're seriously saying that a country can spend sixteen years failing to improve or use their MIC based in tanks can somehow ignore the glaring flaws that inspires, then frankly you don't know this subject? Ironically it's an industry, and when you let it degrade, it takes two things Britain is loath to spend to get it back.
1) T i m e: No shock here, you have to bring yourself back up to snuff. It's a bit of a shame though, considering that they'd need to start right now to have a hope of actually matching Germany/France/USA by the time the next production run happens. This would take that second thing though...
2) M o n e y: Also no shock, the longer they wait, the more money needs to be spent improving their line, improving their engineers (No, working on an armoured car is not the same thing as working on a tank, that doesn't apply as "experience", nor does an IFV) and settling issues before they become an issue later on.
So sure if Britain is willing to completely reverse two choices right now they might be able to...but they won't and it's silly to think they will in the middle of "a u s t a r i t y" tbh.
Why do you always confuse my point? "US makes good stuff, other countries can also do so if they work on their MIC like Germany does" is different to "US ONLY MAKES GOOD THINGS" and you seem very eager to think I mean the latter when it's really the former. I've praised multiple countries and products repeatedly, nationality doesn't factor in so much as the quality. But I guess silly accusations of nationalism serve to detract from my broader point of "This is bad because the situation only gets worse as time passes"
If, and I admit I haven't posted in a while, you'd read most of the posts I make, you'll realize that expertise is the lower bounds of capability, cost is the upper. So then, while those domestic products won't be overtly terrible in most instances, they simply don't have the upper bounds of the M1A2.
Congrats I just simplified 90% of the problem for you.
As for countries "not letting each other screw up", man, are you going to hate Japan. Because Japan tried the F-3 and the US let them waltz on by. We probably said something like "Are you sure, Japan, it's really really hard to make a 5th gen aircraft!" before Japan stubbed their toe into the cost of trying to go around the US. This is also the case whenever a country tries out it's MIC, it's all a big game really to see what works and what doesn't. And if your allies happen to screw it up that bad then they'll hopefully buy from you next time?
So no, we can reasonably approximate if a country is going to do a heel-face turn and spend massive amounts of money and time into a process they'll still probably be behind in by the time real work starts, and they'll probably buy from another country rather than wasting all that money and time on a project they still won't produce in bulk quantities tbh.
Man, don't resort to just making to just making things up to fit your narrative.
[spoiler]James had the idealistic ambition of building on the personal union of the crowns of Scotland and England so as to establish a permanent Union of the Crowns under one monarch, one parliament, and one law. He insisted that English and Scots should "join and coalesce together in a sincere and perfect union, as two twins bred in one belly, to love one another as no more two but one estate". James's ambitions were greeted with very little enthusiasm, as one by one members of parliament rushed to defend the ancient name and realm of England. All sorts of legal objections were raised: all laws would have to be renewed and all treaties renegotiated. For James, whose experience of parliaments was limited to the stage-managed and semi-feudal Scottish variety, the self-assurance and obduracy of the English version, which had long experience of upsetting monarchs, was an obvious shock.[/spoiler].
Then, when Queen Anne was on the throne and trying to push through the Act of Union, you tried and absolutely w*nk attempt at colonising, you put all your money into the gaffe and they all died of tropical diseases and you essentially bankrupted yourself, all of Scotland's nobles were essentially shot of money and all the traders and aristocrats were reeling from their sudden loss.
Furthermore, in relation to the Queen, having a bit of pride in your nation usually involves being proud of your history, culture and head of state - all three of which the monarchy embodies. Nobody's saying there would be no tourists or even less, but it does promote tourism.
Everestopia, Jaslandia
Scottish Politics.... isn't that the term used for Scotland scrounging off the rest Union's taxes for all your free stuff? University, Prescriptions..so on?
Scotland did not bankrupt itself. We didn't even have any national debt until we joined the union. The Scottish nobles were potless after the failed Darien adventure and so were bribed to vote for the union as the English government promised to pay off their debts. The newly formed British government then levied heavier taxes on Scotland to pay for your spat with France.
Well if pride in your nation is linked to a bunch of royal spongers then I think that's rather sad.
Alternative names include Muted Blue-Violet Ruth, Wreck It Ruth, and Red-Rover-Red-Rover-We-Call-Ruth-Over.
Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona
Well said.
Why?
Hahaha! Brilliant :D
Yukona
Ah, the old scrounger myth. See if we're such a burden, why are you so desperate to hang onto us? Look, I know we Scots have different priorities to you English when it comes to government. Don't blame us for that, blame yourselves for voting in sh!t governments. Scotland does pay taxes you know. We pay our way. And if we did not, you should love subsidising us. Quit whinging. We're all big one happy British family, no?
Now shut up and send me up my monthly subsidy. I need to go buy some Buckfast.
Why would you want serial killers voting for who's in Government?
Why so immature? We were debating and now it's all "shut up"?
I was taking the piss out of your Scots are scroungers narrative.
Oh I see, It can be hard to get the sarcasm in text Aha :P
Because they have to live under that government.
I once saw someone suggest a sark mark for writing online to stop such confusion.
Anyway Nuremgard, lets put this behind us.
We used to get on in the old incarnation of the CFN.
Yukona
That.... that would actually be helpful.
We can still get on and vehemently disagree on politics. The two aren't mutually exclusive. How else do you think I'm such good friends with a certain libertarian on here? Mercunova
Jaslandia
Well, me being a masochist makes it a little easier.
Merc says in traction, through seven layers of head bandages, after a political argument with Nurem
Everestopia, Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Chernarus State, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona
Haha, I meant can we stop with this discussion at this moment in time.
Yukona
You sure you can get on with me? Wouldn't want you to lower yourself by being civil with a scrounger, you know.
Penguania And Antarctica
If I can anyone can
Penguania And Antarctica
Bite me.
Everestopia, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova
Ew, no thanks. I'll get haggis all over my nice shirt
Everestopia, Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
Haggis would make a nice change from all those cheeseburgers you Yanks scoff down.
Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona
Don't generalize!
eats cheeseburger
Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
Speaking of cheeseburger-loving Americans. You'll be glad to know we're giving your President a warm Scottish welcome.
http://www.thenational.scot/resources/images/8065853.jpg?display=1&htype=0&type=responsive-gallery
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
Guten morgen
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Kalaron, Penguania And Antarctica
Guten Tag. :)
Wie geht es dir?
Vista Major
I'm ecstatic
Jaslandia
Oh yknow. Got some stuff to do today. Gotta name sure my report got to my supervisor's desk, had some complications regarding a resident today.
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
Well... I'm sure we have some spare coins down here in the south.
Yukona
Well... I'm sure we have some spare coins down here in the south.
God No! Haggis is awful!
Greetings.
You should be. I am quite marvelous.
Jaslandia
Never actually tried haggis.
Everestopia
Where abouts do you live in the UK?
Everestopia, Penguania And Antarctica
Southeast County of Kent :)
I wouldn't bother, no offense to Scots.
It's not for me.
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
My sister ate it by mistake once and she liked it.
Penguania And Antarctica
Aw I thought we had a fellow West Country lad here, Kent's lovely though
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
Kent eh? Right in the heart of the Home Counties. Posho. ;)
Penguania And Antarctica
Yeah, quite a few like it.
Though it's just not for me.
Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica
*Bear(long) hug*
It's been too long. Stay a while this time, will ya?
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
Uncultured swine.
Penguania And Antarctica
Sadly not, where about in the west are you from?
Aha... whaaaaat? ;)
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
Kent's in the south-east, no?
Penguania And Antarctica
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
Yes. It is a home County. London is on my doorstep.
Penguania And Antarctica
My mistake. I always assumed the Home Counties referred to the south-east in general.
Penguania And Antarctica
Home counties include Kent, Surrey, Buckinghamshire, Essex, Berkshire, Hertfordshire and Sussex.
Penguania And Antarctica
I'm from the Somerset-Dorset border in a tiny village mate, but when I'm up at university I live in Englefield Green (near Staines about 30 mins from LDN), Surrey.
And to Nurem, let us not forget that Staines - perhaps the most dangerous and gang-ridden area of the UK, is indeed in the Home Counties.
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
And Merc how to run an active government, but one thing at a time.
Penguania And Antarctica
I guess Staines is stained by gang activity.
Penguania And Antarctica
I'd love to see the Highlands.
Penguania And Antarctica
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD1hZEw_6n0
Well... if you want me to run for office dear Vista, do say so.
Ah very nice, have been down to Somerset and Dorset. I have family in Brockenhurst.
Shhh.... We don't talk about stains.
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona
How about some classes on how to write an actually necessary bill?
Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia
Staines does not exist. It disappeared.
Penguania And Antarctica
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oesOC7JvcwQ
Nuremgard
It'd be great to have a three-way race for Chancellor again. Pretty sure it's just been Me vs. Merc for the past 2-3 cycles.
He's done a well enough job, but I miss the competition, old frenemy.
Regional divisions in nations amuse me. They say there is a north-south divide in the UK but there are also north-south divides in England and Scotland.
Last I checked, you were one of the principal dissenters to my university bill at first. I had plans for a Citizens' Academy
Well then... Maybe I'll be ditching Emeritus from my title - Chancellor Emeritus.
Vista Major
I rest my case.
Vista Major
Post self-deleted by Everestopia.
It won't be a three way race this coming cycle unless someone other than you lot run. #MicDrop
Vista Major
https://tinyurl.com/ydh5kpmd
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova
*Picks up mic*
You've never seen me run, boy.
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Mercunova
There's divides all over the shop mate. You'll find a bit of tribalism on all levels.
Everestopia, Nuremgard
Humans are such bawbags.
Everestopia
Good afternoon.
Everestopia, Jaslandia, Vista Major
How do you do.
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica
Notice
A statement from the Chancellery will be made later today.
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica
He's right, you know.
That's also true. We'll find recruits.
Not on my watch, boi
Penguania And Antarctica
I've never seen the RMB as active as it is now.
Russkov Soviet, Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica
To be fair I made really good friends with this guy from uni who was quite posh and home counties and I thought he was a safe lad but he started using "that's so village" as an insult and if he says that in front of me his teeth are going to make friends with his gastrointestinal tract
Nuremgard
He's stepping down and appointing me his successor.
Cheers babes x
Jaslandia, Au Minbo, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova
Believe it or not, I was once friends with a Tory in college.
That's my presence for you ;P
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Yukona
Yeah.. I'm not quite like that.
I thought only Americans were able to be this arrogant.
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Yukona
You said you were a Liberal Democrat right?
For once, I have to agree. And I am an American
No, you're Virginian. Virginia actually became an independent country while we were speaking.
Thats because its arrogance coming from a Yank. Where Evers is concerned, its merely fact.
Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova
Fact? What are facts? As an American, I've never encountered one.
Everestopia
Fact.
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova
As an American, I've never encountered one.
Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova, Yukona
As a Canadian, Im all too aware.
Everestopia, Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/09/magazine/justin-trudeau-chrystia-freeland-trade-canada-us-.html
Everestopia
Doing okayish. You?
Ah, see... it is known.
I suppose the only thing you get in the states is fake news?
We only get corporate news.
So yeah, actually.
Everestopia, Penguania And Antarctica
It is known, Khaleesi.
Everestopia
Yes. But don't act as though the British media is any better. TV is good where you are, but the tabloids are utter crap.
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