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Region: The Confederacy of Free Nations
Out of curiosity, if the re-vote goes up, and either Unf's constitution wins or we just get the old one again, do we plan to entirely re-host this election? I'm a bit ignorant on that.
Vista Major
Technically, I would say so
The United Providences Of Perland
I was thinking we should just do it for the courts, thats the only difference in the election.
The two Constitutions depict different means by which an election is conducted, so of course.
Vista Major
Yes, but friendship with me doesn't mean I won't point out when you're doing something wrong as a political officer holder. I think Jas is great, but that didn't stop me from telling him exactly how I felt when he agreed to serve as Minister of Justice in the short lived First Presidium under Valt.
A Speaker cannot make a motion to himself. A private citizen cannot make a motion to a legislative house without a Speaker, because motions are made to the Speaker. A provate citizen also cannot set parameters on a motion, such as dictating when it will conclude, as this is the jurisdiction of the Speaker.
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
I wasn't asking you too, but you blocked my tgs. I don't mind when a friend points things out, but i mind when it looks like they hate me.
So are we good?
Jaslandia, Kalaron, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland
Absolutely, boyo
Jaslandia, The United Providences Of Perland
Welp, after giving it a good bit of thought I think I've decided to agree that the referendum needs to be re-done.
Vista Major, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica
What's the haps, my chaps?
Vista Major, The United Providences Of Perland
soundsgoodman
Chaos
Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland
The constitution referendum is getting redone because citizens that were ineligible to vote due to their novelty to the region voted, which had an effect on the referendum.
So, nothing much really. Just another opportunity to vote.
Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland
Last time I was involved in a region's government, I lost my election to someone who CTEd 2 days later, they weren't even there during the election, but people were to lazy to click one circle below.
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland
Hey everyone! So, as many of you have seen, I've gotten a lot of questions about how my nation works, how sentient engines work, what life is like on Sodor, etc. So, I've been thinking, and I've decided to do a Q&A. What I'm thinking is that, if enough people are interested, we can set up a day and time, and during that period, you can ask me questions on the RMB, and I'll answer them on the RMB. After I answer a question, I'll put the question and answer in a Factbook so we'll always have it. So, would anybody be interested in that?
Onocarcass, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
*eagerly raises hand*
Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton
Jaslandia, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton
We need answers man, ANSWERS!
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton
I remember that I did something like that once on NS forums.
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton
https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=409592
Jaslandia, Percyton
Looks like we hardly need to keep the poll lol, it a clear win.
Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica
*slaps face*
I was gonna send out a regional TG supporting the "Yes" option
But this is just as good
Penguania And Antarctica
Duly noted. Some things are best explained with magic, but even so, we'll try to other alternative and non-magical theories as well.
Oh? Interesting. I might have to keep that in mind.
So, if we have people interested, hopefully we could arrange something later this week. Friday, perhaps?
Jaslandia, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica
I find Q&As to be a great way to expand your nation's lore.
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton
Huh, I never thought of it that way
We should do interviews, but we play our nations
#Hetalia
Onocarcass, Jaslandia, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton
I've got enough of my nation's lore written down in my journal, I intend to put it all online at some point, but that's going to be a lot of work.
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica
Definitely. Plus, I've gotten so many questions ever since I came here, that I think it would be easier to just have everyone ask them at once so I can write them down, instead of having everything spread out.
I would support that idea. Or maybe we act as our nations' leaders, since I'm pretty sure Percyton itself isn't alive.
Onocarcass, Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica
Lets, it a one of the few rps i was into.
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton
Amen, brother, amen
That would be an interesting situation
yassssss
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton
I will rp if you make this. You have my word.
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Percyton
Well, I don't have a leader so that'd be a slight problem, the closest I have is the highest ranking military official and thats less that what you all would like to see. How about we do it this way, we RP it as a group of Envoy's from each of our nation visiting a classroom of students.
The Questioned would act as the Envoy representing their own nation, while the Questioner would be a student in the classroom their visiting.
I totally agree, I need to update my factbooks badly and I think it'd be great to finally clear some myths about me...*grumbles* such as my demonym....
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Oelesa, Percyton
That's why we have a forums!
Andromitus, Oelesa, Percyton
Classroom Forums! Classroom Forums! Classroom Forums!
Vista Major, Percyton
I made some crucial edits, I hope you all like
https://docs.google.com/document/d/14tybDyhcULYpVnmNvd9hERRqhudbzTMvAb3e8mQAcTI/edit?usp=sharing
(My original constitution stands untouched on the Confederate Papers account)
Post self-deleted by Sulania.
I would like to thank everyone for your support in this election, and I'm proud to serve as your future Minister of Interior Affairs. I look forward to living up to your expectations and building a Ministry we can all be proud of. I would also like to congratulate my opponent, [nation=short]The United Providences of Perland[/nation], for his good showing in the election. You ran an excellent campaign and I expected nothing less but a close race with someone as qualified as you. As it stands, I would be looking for a deputy to serve and aid me, though there is a pressing matter.
As for this current referendum, I would implore everyone to vote for a re-vote. If there is any question as to the legitimacy of the Constitutional Referendum, we must do everything in our power to make sure we do it right. This is democracy, and we should do everything to make sure we live up to the promise democracy makes to each citizen. However, given the nature of the future re-vote, the future of the government is kind of in question right now, so I will hold off picking a deputy until this matter is settled.
Thank you,
Minister of Interior Affairs-elect Sulania
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland
I'd be down for this.... when's it starting up?
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton
Or after this referendum debacle
Jaslandia
BREAKING: US and South Korea join North Korea's war on the Ocean by firing missiles into the Yellow Sea.
Yukona
DEATH TO THE MER!
So, would the currently elected people become the equivalent of their position if another constitution wins?
Honestly I do not have a clue.
Estrinia
All I can imagine is that if I held one, Ald would show up with a notepad and fury.
Not for the courts, if unfs constitution wins.
Everything else is basically the same. But most likely will re do it just to put a big happy democracy sticker.
I'd be be fine with just having an election for Unfs court. Others might not, so you could say 'to be determined'
Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland
Got a 5 in AP Psychology, and frankly that makes me happy.
Jaslandia, The United Providences Of Perland, Djo, Percyton
Ooooo. When I got to a university I plan to minor in psych
And since you're good at psychology, why does it make you happy? Does your mother have anything to do with it?
Jaslandia, The United Providences Of Perland, Yukona
And how can you use these tools to make others happier around you? Does this act have any further affect on yourself?
Jaslandia
[spoiler=Today is July 5 and today are:]
Today is July 5 and today are:
- Bloody Thursday (International Longshore and Warehouse Union)
- Constitution Day (Armenia)
- Independence Day (Algeria)
- Independence Day (Cape Verde)
- Independence Day (Venezuela)
- National Apple Turnover Day (United States)
- National Armed Forces Day (Venezuela)
- National Bikini Day (United States)
- National Graham Cracker Day (United States)
- Saints Cyril and Methodius (Czech Republic, Slovakia)
- Tynwald Day (Isle of Man)
- Workaholics Day
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[spoiler=This day in history:]
This day in history:
- 328 – The official opening of Constantine's Bridge built over the Danube between Sucidava (Corabia, Romania) and Oescus (Gigen, Bulgaria) by the Roman architect Theophilus Patricius.
- 1316 – The Burgundian and Majorcan claimants of the Principality of Achaea meet in the Battle of Manolada.
- 1594 – Portuguese forces under the command of Pedro Lopes de Sousa begin an unsuccessful invasion of the Kingdom of Kandy during the Campaign of Danture in Sri Lanka.
- 1610 – John Guy sets sail from Bristol with 39 other colonists for Newfoundland.
- 1687 – Isaac Newton publishes Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica.
- 1770 – The Battle of Chesma between the Russian Empire and the Ottoman Empire begins.
- 1775 – The Second Continental Congress adopts the Olive Branch Petition.
- 1803 – The Convention of Artlenburg is signed, leading to the French occupation of Hanover (which had been ruled by the British king).
- 1807 – In Buenos Aires the local militias repel the British soldiers within the Second English Invasion.
- 1809 – The largest battle of the Napoleonic Wars, the Battle of Wagram is fought between the French and Austrian Empires.
- 1811 – Venezuela declares independence from Spain.
- 1813 – War of 1812: Three weeks of British raids on Fort Schlosser, Black Rock and Plattsburgh, New York commence.
- 1814 – War of 1812: Battle of Chippawa: American Major General Jacob Brown defeats British General Phineas Riall at Chippawa, Ontario.
- 1833 – Lê Văn Khôi along with 27 soldiers stage a mutiny taking over the Phiên An citadel, developing into the Lê Văn Khôi revolt against Emperor Minh Mạng.
- 1833 – Admiral Charles Napier vanquishes the navy of the Portuguese usurper Dom Miguel at the third Battle of Cape St. Vincent.
- 1841 – Thomas Cook organises the first package excursion, from Leicester to Loughborough.
- 1884 – Germany takes possession of Cameroon.
- 1915 – The Liberty Bell leaves Philadelphia by special train on its way to the Panama–Pacific International Exposition. This is the last trip outside Philadelphia that the custodians of the bell intend to permit.
- 1934 – "Bloody Thursday": Police open fire on striking longshoremen in San Francisco.
- 1935 – The National Labor Relations Act, which governs labor relations in the United States, is signed into law by President Franklin D. Roosevelt.
- 1937 – Spam, the luncheon meat, is introduced into the market by the Hormel Foods Corporation.
- 1940 – World War II: The United Kingdom and the Vichy France government break off diplomatic relations.
- 1941 – World War II: Operation Barbarossa: German troops reach the Dnieper river.
- 1943 – World War II: An Allied invasion fleet sails for Sicily (Operation Husky, July 10, 1943).
- 1943 – World War II: German forces begin a massive offensive against the Soviet Union at the Battle of Kursk, also known as Operation Citadel.
- 1945 – World War II: The liberation of the Philippines is declared.
- 1946 – The bikini goes on sale after debuting during an outdoor fashion show at the Molitor Pool in Paris, France.
- 1948 – National Health Service Acts create the national public health system in the United Kingdom.
- 1950 – Korean War: Task Force Smith: American and North Korean forces first clash, in the Battle of Osan.
- 1950 – Zionism: The Knesset passes the Law of Return which grants all Jews the right to immigrate to Israel.
- 1954 – The BBC broadcasts its first television news bulletin.
- 1954 – Elvis Presley records his first single, "That's All Right," at Sun Records in Memphis, Tennessee.
- 1962 – Algeria becomes independent from France.
- 1971 – Right to vote: The Twenty-sixth Amendment to the United States Constitution, lowering the voting age from 21 to 18 years, is formally certified by President Richard Nixon.
- 1973 – A boiling liquid expanding vapor explosion (BLEVE) in Kingman, Arizona, following a fire that broke out as propane was being transferred from a railroad car to a storage tank, kills eleven firefighters.
- 1975 – Arthur Ashe becomes the first black man to win the Wimbledon singles title.
- 1975 – Cape Verde gains its independence from Portugal.
- 1977 – Military coup in Pakistan: Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, the first elected Prime Minister of Pakistan, is overthrown.
- 1980 – Swedish tennis player Björn Borg wins his fifth Wimbledon final and becomes the first male tennis player to win the championships five times in a row (1976–1980).
- 1987 – Sri Lankan Civil War: The LTTE uses suicide attacks on the Sri Lankan Army for the first time. The Black Tigers are born and, in the following years, will continue to kill with the tactic.
- 1989 – Iran–Contra affair: Oliver North is sentenced by U.S. District Judge Gerhard A. Gesell to a three-year suspended prison term, two years probation, $150,000 in fines and 1,200 hours community service. His convictions are later overturned.
- 1995 – The Republic of Armenia adopts its constitution, four years after its independence from the Soviet Union.
- 1996 – Dolly the sheep becomes the first mammal cloned from an adult cell.
- 1997 – Sri Lankan Civil War: Sri Lankan Tamil MP A. Thangathurai is shot dead at Sri Shanmuga Hindu Ladies College in Trincomalee.
- 1999 – U.S. President Bill Clinton imposes trade and economic sanctions against the Taliban regime in Afghanistan.
- 2004 – The first Indonesian presidential election is held.
- 2006 – North Korea tests four short-range missiles, one medium-range missile and a long-range Taepodong-2. The long-range Taepodong-2 reportedly fails in mid-air over the Sea of Japan.
- 2009 – A series of violent riots break out in Ürümqi, the capital city of the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region in the People's Republic of China.
- 2009 – The largest hoard of Anglo-Saxon gold ever discovered in England, consisting of more than 1,500 items, is found near the village of Hammerwich, near Lichfield, Staffordshire.
- 2012 – The Shard in London is inaugurated as the tallest building in Europe, with a height of 310 metres (1,020 ft).
- 2015 – The United States women's national soccer team won gold at the 2015 FIFA Women's World Cup in Vancouver.
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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]
Famous Birthdays:
- 1810 – P. T. Barnum, American businessman, co-founded Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus
- 1853 – Cecil Rhodes, English-South African businessman and politician, 6th Prime Minister of the Cape Colony
- 1857 – Clara Zetkin, German theorist and activist
- 1879 – Dwight F. Davis, American tennis player and politician, 49th United States Secretary of War
- 1889 – Jean Cocteau, French novelist, poet, and playwright
- 1911 – Georges Pompidou, French banker and politician, 19th President of France
- 1946 – Gerard 't Hooft, Dutch physicist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate
- 1958 – Bill Watterson, American author and illustrator
- 1975 – Ai Sugiyama, Japanese tennis player
- 1977 – Nicolas Kiefer, German tennis player
- 1983 – Zheng Jie, Chinese tennis player
- 1986 – Adam Young, American musician (Owl City)
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Quote of the day
Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.
- Will Rogers -
Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Andromitus, Kalaron, The United Providences Of Perland, Percyton
New flag who dis
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Djo, Percyton
Looks nice.
Jaslandia, Vista Major, The United Providences Of Perland, Percyton
I had that flag once
Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland
Gg
Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica
But, of course, once you go Nordic...
Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland
I like it
Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Percyton
Indeed. How can you make others happy with these peni -- tools, I mean tools!
#FreudianJoke
Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Djo, Yukona
You eat rotten fish?
Vista Major
Congrats, Sul!
I would like to add something here, if I could.
1865 – Royal assent was given to an Act of Parliament allowing the Talyllyn Railway to carry passengers by steam haulage – the first narrow-gauge railway in Britain to do so from the start.
Skarloey: Indeed, Percy. Because of that, today there's a big celebration going on at the Skarloey Railway today. The Skarloey Railway is heavily influenced by the Talyllyn, and many of the engines on the Skarloey Railway have a twin at the Talyllyn (my twin is Talyllyn, Rheneas' twin is Dolgoch, Peter Sam's twin is Edward Thomas, etc.). Plus, today is a big first for narrow gauge railways in general as well, so we're celebrating that too.
Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica
No. They are defined differently in both constitutional proposals and are therefore not equivalent roles. People could have arguably chosen not to run under the constitutional proposal that originally "won" based on its definition of the office.
More importantly, though, is both proposals dictate different means for electing these officials. One is FPTP telegramed votes with a regional poll for Chancellor, while the other is strictly ranked choice telegramed votes. If Unf's constitution wins in a re-vote, the officeholders from yesterday's election cannot be said to have won an election under the new constitution.
Vista Major, Oelesa
What's really funny is when I Googled "cool flags" the first result was a Nazi one LOL
Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona
Also, I know almost all of us are on board for the yes option in the referendum (myself included), but regional powers such as being able to send a telegram to every nation should not be used to influence others' decisions on a regional referendum no matter its content or widespread support. That's an abuse of office.
The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Vista Major, Friedensreich, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona
I would have expected Murica, but okay
You're not wrong
Jaslandia, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Yukona
This ^
Should we propose this as a bill once this whole election stuff is over so there is a legal basis for it?
The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland
Once a new constitution is officially selected, a criminal code will be introduced to the House. Abuse of power will be one of the official charges. We'll make sure the definition covers improper use of regional authorities and acts that can be deemed as infringing on the democratic process.
Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Yukona
Can't wait.
Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Yukona
[nation=short]Yukona[/nation], have you seen the proposal to construct embassies with Right to Life yet?
Oelesa, Yukona
Specifically, this one: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=824978
(Feedback and editing services always welcome)
Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica
Well, I thought of something different.
Like, you imagined a different format, or you thought of something that's not included?
Penguania And Antarctica
Actually both.
It's pretty much the same format as the one I've had up for almost two months; I just moved the sentences to its own section.
But if it's missing a potential criminal act, let me know. I want it to be comprehensive.
Penguania And Antarctica
I will make up a draft with an alternative format tomorrow. One I personally think is better. Maybe you will like it.
Maybe I missed it, but I think there should be another example of abuse of power by using governmental powers to remain in power.
Do we need to create an embassy with those bawbags?
Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona
I hope we don't. Those guys are baaaad juju
Penguania And Antarctica
They're pro-lifers. They're all nutcases by default.
Friedensreich, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona
Yeah, bunch o' nutters.
But aside from their beliefs (we can't deny their proposal on the basis of their beliefs), they are also imperialistic in the gameplay.
Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica
Well isn't that lovely.
I was going to call them women-haters in my previous comment but I decided against it since there are plenty of women in the pro-life movement. Then again that doesn't stop them being women-haters.
Aha. Here is the place where people are.
Jaslandia, Oelesa
Oh yeah. I've been reading their RMB.... lots of Trump supporters. So, not exactly the chillest people around.
But yeah, they're imperialistic. They started an interregional alliance with other pro-life regions. It has a diplomatic and military branch, and while the diplomatic branch appears alright-ish, the military branch is..... sh!te.
As per their Factbook entry on "Pro-Life International":
"What is the purpose of the Military League?"
"The purpose of the Military League is threefold...... *Third, it seeks to advance the pro-life cause on NationStates through military gameplay.* This might include raids on warzones, participation in missions with allies, and other military actions."
Nuremgard
Hi
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
I have my Discord app set to only give me a notification of a new message when the poster tags me in it. If you said something on there, I simply haven't see it yet!
Penguania And Antarctica
Good evening. How are you?
Oelesa
LOL I love the irony of pro-lifers being pro-military.
Friedensreich, Yukona
https://progressivecynic.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/tea-party-ted-meme-pro-life.jpg
Nuremgard
Don't worry. I'm used to getting ignored on the discord.
Yukona
Oh, don't be that way boo!
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona
Pretty good lol. feeling alright Peng?
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
I think it may be covered by biased or negative influence over the democratic process, but maybe something specifically about respecting the term length and transition of power should be included. Thanks!
As George Carlin said, once they're out the womb, they're on their own!
Jaslandia
Just my destiny.
You are the first person asking me how I am today.
I'm doing okay. Got a pair of sunglasses today.
Glad you're good lol. What kind do you where? The hipster, roguish, ya know that kinda style.
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
Well, when you base your beliefs on emotion and primal instinct......
But yeah, I'll campaign to prevent us from having relations and an embassy with those guys if need be.
Nuremgard
Too bad we cant put pro-lifers into free speech cages like we can in our NS nations.
Friedensreich
Like this
https://www.vistan-brillen.de/fileadmin/_processed_/csm_7904-1_e6168b887e.png
But greyish
#LockRightToLifeUp
Nuremgard
*sigh*
so kinda hipster ish.
I don't know. I just liked it. I don't care what cultural or subculture group is wearing those.
Anyway, whats you plan now for the CoFN?
My plan ??
Does anyone have the link to the old forums?
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