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Continental Commonwealths wrote:Nope. There is no way in the realm of any reality that the phrase "all that tax helps fund public services for the well off" is remotely true.

Because those same tax dollars pay for subjective art projects, salaries for politicians well beyond the national average, salaries for public servants abovr and beyond the average- a number of which sit at about 8x the national average at $440,000/year- providing tax incentives for donating to political parties, and the list goes on.

So, I don't think you can be both aware and make the statement that every dollar taxed from a private individual ("all that tax...") goes towards benefitting the less fortunate. And that's not even considering the arguments regarding an overcomplicated tax system, a convoluted and inefficient tax code, and methods of regressive taxation- all of which exist in Canada, the UK, and (what the hell, let's include them) the US.

Prime Minister: It is clear that taxes can not pay all services, but there is a rotating system that allows individuals to benefit from tax benefits.

Penisola Italica wrote:Prime Minister: a compulsive leader? Is a very serious matter. A head of a government should be mentally stable, can not drive a drifting country.

Right Hand of the Glorious Leader: he's having troubles with her wife. He's a human too and he has feelings too Prime Minister, please, be considerate.

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Nope. There is no way in the realm of any reality that the phrase "all that tax helps fund public services for the well off" is remotely true.

Because those same tax dollars pay for subjective art projects, salaries for politicians well beyond the national average, salaries for public servants abovr and beyond the average- a number of which sit at about 8x the national average at $440,000/year- providing tax incentives for donating to political parties, and the list goes on.

So, I don't think you can be both aware and make the statement that every dollar taxed from a private individual ("all that tax...") goes towards benefitting the less fortunate. And that's not even considering the arguments regarding an overcomplicated tax system, a convoluted and inefficient tax code, and methods of regressive taxation- all of which exist in Canada, the UK, and (what the hell, let's include them) the US.

That's the thing. Conservatives never want to cut politicians' salaries or expenses. They are usually the biggest troughers. They want to cut taxes to public services but keep all their perks, and give tax cuts to their rich buddies and corporations.

I'd be fine with Cons if they wanted to cut things like politicians' wages etc. But no. They always go after essential services.

Penisola Italica wrote:Prime Minister: Do you know why wages have to stay a bit high? Because politicians are not influenced by external factors, a politician with a too low wage is easily corrupt.

Politicians with high wages are more corrupt. Why do you think they want to join politics? Public service? Give over. They want a fat paycheque and expenses.

Nuremgard wrote:That's the thing. Conservatives never want to cut politicians' salaries or expenses. They are usually the biggest troughers. They want to cut taxes to public services but keep all their perks, and give tax cuts to their rich buddies and corporations.

I'd be fine with Cons if they wanted to cut things like politicians' wages etc. But no. They always go after essential services.

Both are wrong, both rich conservatives and poor liberals, to have some way of doing policy functions, there is a need to do concrete actions for everyone, and can only be done if all are involved.

The Empire Of Handland wrote:Why would I be allies with someone who is going to eventually try and square up to fight me?

Glorious Leader: US and URSS were allies once.Germany and Italy too. Maybe, with time, instead of fighting, our nations will be hugging. Consider that.

Penisola_Italica and Nueva_Castilla_Real.

I am Premier Aleksander Dimitri Coltsov, Glorious Leader of Russkov_Soviet. On behalf of my Equestrian Empire, I welcome you both to the CoFN!

Penisola Italica

Penisola Italica wrote:Both are wrong, both rich conservatives and poor liberals, to have some way of doing policy functions, there is a need to do concrete actions for everyone, and can only be done if all are involved.

Difficult to do that when politicians are beholden to vested interests.

Russkov Soviet wrote:Penisola_Italica and Nueva_Castilla_Real.

I am Premier Aleksander Dimitri Coltsov, Glorious Leader of Russkov_Soviet. On behalf of my Equestrian Empire, I welcome you both to the CoFN!

Glorious Leader: Nice to meet you Aleksander, I hope our nations grow faster with each other support.

Russkov Soviet

Nuremgard wrote:Politicians with high wages are more corrupt. Why do you think they want to join politics? Public service? Give over. They want a fat paycheque and expenses.

Prime Minister: Let's put it this way, an unpaid politician is very corrupt, a very paid politician is very corrupt, a politician with an average salary is not corrupt. A paid little politician will be influenced by lobby and people who will give him some money to meet his / her needs. A very paid politician will be very corrupt because he wants to be in politics only for the salary and not for the ethical motivation that drives him into politics. So a fair wage would partially eliminate the problem of corruption.

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Nope. There is no way in the realm of any reality that the phrase "all that tax helps fund public services for the well off" is remotely true.

Because those same tax dollars pay for subjective art projects, salaries for politicians well beyond the national average, salaries for public servants abovr and beyond the average- a number of which sit at about 8x the national average at $440,000/year- providing tax incentives for donating to political parties, and the list goes on.

So, I don't think you can be both aware and make the statement that every dollar taxed from a private individual ("all that tax...") goes towards benefitting the less fortunate. And that's not even considering the arguments regarding an overcomplicated tax system, a convoluted and inefficient tax code, and methods of regressive taxation- all of which exist in Canada, the UK, and (what the hell, let's include them) the US.

And I've heard that the US tax code is more that 10,000 words....

Nuremgard

Penisola Italica wrote:Prime Minister: Let's put it this way, an unpaid politician is very corrupt, a very paid politician is very corrupt, a politician with an average salary is not corrupt. A paid little politician will be influenced by lobby and people who will give him some money to meet his / her needs. A very paid politician will be very corrupt because he wants to be in politics only for the salary and not for the ethical motivation that drives him into politics. So a fair wage would partially eliminate the problem of corruption.

One set by the public or an independent body, not the politicians themselves.

Cesorion wrote:And I've heard that the US tax code is more that 10,000 words....

That's how the rich exploit it.

Nuremgard wrote:One set by the public or an independent body, not the politicians themselves.

Prime Minister: I do not understand what you mean.

Nueva Castilla Real wrote:Glorious Leader: US and URSS were allies once.Germany and Italy too. Maybe, with time, instead of fighting, our nations will be hugging. Consider that.

I guess it depends on what you have to offer.

Nueva Castilla Real

Penisola Italica wrote:Prime Minister: I do not understand what you mean.

Politicians vote for payrises for themselves, ergo they effectively set their own wages. That has to stop.

Nuremgard wrote:That's the thing. Conservatives never want to cut politicians' salaries or expenses. They are usually the biggest troughers. They want to cut taxes to public services but keep all their perks, and give tax cuts to their rich buddies and corporations.

I'd be fine with Cons if they wanted to cut things like politicians' wages etc. But no. They always go after essential services.

But I think you base these wide sweeping generalizations on a singular experience. The Conservatives in Canada froze annual wage increases for themselves most of years when they were in office and issued a memorandum that politicians and staffers are not to use limosine services (which I can't believe had to actually be stated). This is why I was okay supporting them when they also agreed to correspondingly collect less tax from individuals.

When the Liberals took office, they reinstituted annual wage increases despite us going through a national recession and them running a deficit 3x larger than they campaigned on, and reinstated limosine services for their MPs.

I'm not sure what the circumstances are like in the UK, but in Canada the Liberals are most often associated with entitlement and perks at the taxpayers' expense. I imagine this isn't necessarily the same as the Labour Party in Australia or the UK (which is their essential equivalent in these countries), so I would never say "Liberals/Labour are x" and immediately oppose their domestic policies based on which ideology their party name seems to reflect.

Yukona

Nuremgard wrote:That's how the rich exploit it.

According to the same source, a magazine gave the earnings and expenses of a fantastic family to 46 tax prepairers. They respnses varied. From 24,000$ to 128,000$. Imagine

Continental Commonwealths wrote:But I think you base these wide sweeping generalizations on a singular experience. The Conservatives in Canada froze annual wage increases for themselves most of years when they were in office and issued a memorandum that politicians and staffers are not to use limosine services (which I can't believe had to actually be stated). This is why I was okay supporting them when they also agreed to correspondingly collect less tax from individuals.

When the Liberals took office, they reinstituted annual wage increases despite us going through a national recession and them running a deficit 3x larger than they campaigned on, and reinstated limosine services for their MPs.

I'm not sure what the circumstances are like in the UK, but in Canada the Liberals are most often associated with entitlement and perks at the taxpayers' expense. I imagine this isn't necessarily the same as the Labour Party in Australia or the UK (which is their essential equivalent in these countries), so I would never say "Liberals/Labour are x" and immediately oppose their domestic policies based on which ideology their party name seems to reflect.

Well trust me on this, the Cons in the UK are the entitled ones.

Nuremgard wrote:Politicians vote for payrises for themselves, ergo they effectively set their own wages. That has to stop.

Prime Minister: Politicians are legislators, what do we want to do? To take away the right to vote for their wages? And who would order the right wage for politicians?

Cesorion wrote:According to the same source, a magazine gave the earnings and expenses of a fantastic family to 46 tax prepairers. They respnses varied. From 24,000$ to 128,000$. Imagine

The tax code needs to be simplified and tax evasion needs to be clamped down on.

Continental Commonwealths wrote:As we have an active founder and a non-executive WA delegate, I propose we offer a hearty hello post haste!

Hello, [nation=short]Nueva Castilla Real[/nation]!

Nya!

Penguania And Antarctica, Nueva Castilla Real

Penisola Italica wrote:Prime Minister: Politicians are legislators, what do we want to do? To take away the right to vote for their wages? And who would order the right wage for politicians?

I don't know. Not the bloody politicians. Wouldn't it be nice if we could all vote for our own wages eh?

Nuremgard wrote:Well trust me on this, the Cons in the UK are the entitled ones.

I'm not qualified to argue or agree with that. What I was challenging was the mentality that one is being narrowminded if they are unhappy with the many means by which their same dollar is taxed depsite if they decide to use it, save it, or invest it because *all* that tax revenue goes towards the less fortunate.

The Empire Of Handland wrote:Haha I will crush you if you mess with me. I was simply pointing out something sketchy. No harm was done, so no real foul play.

Now now Imperialist, don't start expanding or Papa Andy'll have to come down there and give you a time out!

The Empire Of Handland wrote:Nice. I'm more national syndicalist.

Wa..wait..bwa...*flusters* I'mSyndicalistYouDingusWhatIsThisDoubleStandard!

The Empire Of Handland wrote:So should we be expecting some conflict between these two waves of politicians?

Oh hell yes, Second Wave Socialists are all about slow and steady Evolution while First Wave thinks that it should be a fast Revolution

Stark. Contrast.

Nueva Castilla Real wrote:Let me grow and we will see. For now allies.

Good good, grow, trade, expand your sphere of influence and list of friends young padawan

Continental Commonwealths wrote:*sets garden hose to "Filthy Commie" setting and begins to hose down*

*Starts screaming* What ever happened to Freedom of Speech you Fascisgurglgurgll

Jaslandia, Nueva Castilla Real

Nuremgard wrote:I don't know. Not the bloody politicians. Wouldn't it be nice if we could all vote for our own wages eh?

Prime Minister: is a utopian idea of ​​life, how can you think to cast our wages on ourselves? Do not you think everyone who would vote for a high salary? And therefore there would not be the rich and the poor, but only the people who will fight each other for wealth. Civil war and the implosion of the state as we know it would be the future.

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I'm not qualified to argue or agree with that. What I was challenging was the mentality that one is being narrowminded if they are unhappy with the many means by which their same dollar is taxed depsite if they decide to use it, save it, or invest it because *all* that tax revenue goes towards the less fortunate.

People of course have the right to criticise how their tax money is spent. I just personally get pissed off when, say, a middle class person votes for tax cuts to welfare which means my mum gets her sickness benefit reduced or removed just so said middle class person can have a few extra quid.

Nuremgard wrote:People of course have the right to criticise how their tax money is spent. I just personally get pissed off when, say, a middle class person votes for tax cuts to welfare which means my mum gets her sickness benefit reduced or removed just so said middle class person can have a few extra quid.

But I as a middle class person didn't vote for a party that promised to collect less taxes while wringing my hands gleefully thinking of those who will receive less in welfare and disability payments.

I voted for it so that I could put more money away each year in my tax free savings account while working two jobs and similtanously going to post secondary full-time so that I could afford to live when I graduated in the face of overwhelming student loans. I voted for the candidate that would lower property tax so that my parent's ranch, which functions as their sole residence given they're retired, could continue being their property and not literally be taxed out from under. I voted for the leadership candidate who promised to allow high wage earners to access private health amenities (while still paying into Canada's socialized healthcare) so as to lower the demand and wait times at public facilities.

I think there are plenty of individual circumstances that influence right-of-centre voter choice, and I think it is rarely if ever because they want to see the less fortunate be harmed.

Cesorion

Continental Commonwealths wrote:But I as a middle class person didn't vote for a party that promised to collect less taxes while wringing my hands gleefully thinking of those who will receive less in welfare and disability payments.

I voted for it so that I could put more money away each year in my tax free savings account while working two jobs and similtanously going to post secondary full-time so that I could afford to live when I graduated in the face of overwhelming student loans. I voted for the candidate that would lower property tax so that my parent's ranch, which functions as their sole residence given they're retired, could continue being their property and not literally be taxed out from under. I voted for the leadership candidate who promised to allow high wage earners to access private health amenities (while still paying into Canada's socialized healthcare) so as to lower the demand and wait times at public facilities.

I think there are plenty of individual circumstances that influence right-of-centre voter choice, and I think it is rarely if ever because they want to see the less fortunate be harmed.

Basically everyone votes for self-interest. I'm not saying all Cons vote to punish the poor. Most Cons vote the way they do to look after themselves and their own. The rest are inconsequential.

Penisola Italica wrote:Italian Prime Minister: Hello to all Confederates! I am the Prime Minister of Italy and I come to this region to find prosperity and cooperation among the nations.

Nueva Castilla Real wrote:First of all, lets chill. I'm trying to understand this awesome page. For now, I don't want to hurt anybody, but don't play with me. Viva el Rey y VIVA LA NUEVA CASTILLA!

Welcome to the CFN to both of you! My name's Percy, King of Percyton and the #6 green engine on the Island of Sodor. I hope you like it here!

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Penisola Italica, Nueva Castilla Real

Hello everyone! How are you?

Jaslandia, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Nueva Castilla Real

Nuremgard wrote:Basically everyone votes for self-interest. I'm not saying all Cons vote to punish the poor. Most people vote the way they do to look after themselves and their own. The rest are inconsequential.

Thereby making it no less self interested for someone to vote in such a way that their retired parents don't lose their house due to a tax increase than it is for someone to vote for tax increases so that they continue receiving the same amount in welfare payments.

They're both looking out for themselves, and if the low-income voter on welfare is said to be voting on behalf of all welfare recipients than the retired homeowner barely being able to meet their property tax payments are voting on behalf of all property owners also living on the cusp.

The difference being that I don't label or insinuate that liberals/social democrats/democratic socialists are selfish or closed-minded based on their voting pattern.

Cesorion

Bikini Bottom And Jellyfish Fields wrote:Hello everyone! How are you?

Very fine. How are you??

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Bikini Bottom And Jellyfish Fields

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Thereby making it no less self interested for someone to vote in such a way that their retired parents don't lose their house due to a tax increase than it is for someone to vote for tax increases so that they continue receiving the same amount in welfare payments.

They're both looking out for themselves, and if the low-income voter on welfare is said to be voting on behalf of all welfare recipients than the retired homeowner barely being able to meet their property tax payments are voting on behalf of all property owners also living on the cusp.

The difference being that I don't label or insinuate that liberals/social democrats/democratic socialists are selfish or closed-minded based on their voting pattern.

Guess that makes you a better person than I. But I never claimed to be a nice person. I'm bitter. One of my many flaws.

Nuremgard Prime Minister: Why did not you answer what I told you?

Cesorion wrote:Very fine. How are you??

Great!

Penguania And Antarctica

Penisola Italica wrote:Nuremgard Prime Minister: Why did not you answer what I told you?

About politicians wages? They need to be average. Not too little and not too much.

Nuremgard wrote:About politicians wages? They need to be average. Not too little and not too much.

Prime Minister: I find the evasive and swift response ...

Penisola Italica wrote:Prime Minister: I find the evasive and swift response ...

I'm not being evasive but I am being swift.

Could a member of government with Appearance authority please bring the Citizenship Application higher on the featured dossiers' list, please? I want candidates to know they need to be citizens to run for office, and making the application prominently displayed may make that more apparent.

Penguania And Antarctica, Cesorion

Nuremgard wrote:I'm not being evasive but I am being swift.

Prime Minister: All right.

Got my ticket for King Krule gig in November boooooooooooooooooooooooy

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica

Yukona wrote:Got my ticket for King Krule gig in November boooooooooooooooooooooooy

Dunno who that is but yay!

Penguania And Antarctica

Andromitus wrote:Now now Imperialist, don't start expanding or Papa Andy'll have to come down there and give you a time out!

Wa..wait..bwa...*flusters* I'mSyndicalistYouDingusWhatIsThisDoubleStandard!

Oh hell yes, Second Wave Socialists are all about slow and steady Evolution while First Wave thinks that it should be a fast Revolution

Stark. Contrast.

Good good, grow, trade, expand your sphere of influence and list of friends young padawan

*Starts screaming* What ever happened to Freedom of Speech you Fascisgurglgurgll

Andy, I'll wipe you out and burn your hut to the ground. Also, I'm national syndicalist. While founded on the same general principals, there are many differences. Also, it should be interesting to see then where you're taking all of this.

Nuremgard wrote:Dunno who that is but yay!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvZJI8rerWA

Yukona wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvZJI8rerWA

Not my thing but fair enough.

Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:Not my thing but fair enough.

Come with me I'll show you London

Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica

Yukona wrote:Come with me I'll show you London

Only if you're paying. The prices would choke me.

Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:Only if you're paying. The prices would choke me.

Get coach easy money easy life

Penguania And Antarctica

The Empire Of Handland wrote:Andy, I'll wipe you out and burn your hut to the ground. Also, I'm national syndicalist. While founded on the same general principals, there are many differences. Also, it should be interesting to see then where you're taking all of this.

It's Andu tho, why you gotta try to burn Andu?

It will encourage him to buy my helicopter tho.

Jaslandia

Kalaron wrote:It's Andu tho, why you gotta try to burn Andu?

It will encourage him to buy my helicopter tho.

I will nuke Andy

The Empire Of Handland

Yukona wrote:Get coach easy money easy life

Show me London and I'll show you Glasgow.

The Empire Of Handland wrote:Andy, I'll wipe you out and burn your hut to the ground. Also, I'm national syndicalist. While founded on the same general principals, there are many differences. Also, it should be interesting to see then where you're taking all of this.

But you see, herr handerr, I've spent the last year transforming my international theatre into a veritable fortress >:D

Kalaron wrote:It's Andu tho, why you gotta try to burn Andu?

It will encourage him to buy my helicopter tho.

> See's friend being threatened with invasion

> Peddles wares

Jaslandia, Kalaron, Tserra, Yukona

Andromitus wrote:But you see, herr handerr, I've spent the last year transforming my international theatre into a veritable fortress >:D

> See's friend being threatened with invasion

> Peddles wares

:>>>>>>>>>>>>

Continental Commonwealths wrote:If I, a libertarian, can make it with a democratic socialist, I think you could manage with a Tory. :P

As for there being a lot of gay men in the Conservative Party, that seems to be the case here in Canada. When I lived in Ottawa, it was like a 50/50 chance that when meeting a male Conservative staffer that he was gay. We had a strange statistical prevalence not just in that field but specifically for that party.

Dirty Librul, I condemn thee to a Re-Education Camp effective immediately.

Nuremgard

Nuremgard wrote:Show me London and I'll show you Glasgow.

I'd rather my skull remain intact

Yukona wrote:I'd rather my skull remain intact

Such a delicate, dramatic English rose. :P

Well I'd rather not get shot in the capital.

Nuremgard wrote:Such a delicate, dramatic English rose. :P

Well I'd rather not get shot in the capital.

The difference is you won't get shot cus you're Scottish you'll get shot cus you're British so really it'll be quite the harmonious experience for you

Nuremgard wrote:Such a delicate, dramatic English rose. :P

Well I'd rather not get shot in the capital.

Where... would you prefer to be shot?!

hi I'm running for Chancellor vote unf pls

Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Tserra, Yukona

Yukona wrote:The difference is you won't get shot cus you're Scottish you'll get shot cus you're British so really it'll be quite the harmonious experience for you

Och, surely they will love me. According to unionists, the English love us and that's why they want to us to stay in the UK so they can keep funding us.

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Where... would you prefer to be shot?!

Shot in the heart with an arrow of Cupid would be the preference.

Nuremgard wrote:Och, surely they will love me. According to unionists, the English love us and that's why they want to us to stay in the UK so they can keep funding us.

Shot in the heart with an arrow of Cupid would be the preference.

I've always maintained when I go, I want to be pushed out to sea and shot with a fire arrow.

And then Game of Thrones came our and everyone is like, "oh yeah, like Hoster Tully."

Way to cheapen my creative funeral plans, GoT.

Aaaanyways, your plan is better :P

EVERYONE

I'm the [nation=short]United Continental States[/nation]. This will be my new main nation. The only thing changing will be my name and my government. My spot on the map and everything else shall stay the same.

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I've always maintained when I go, I want to be pushed out to sea and shot with a fire arrow.

And then Game of Thrones came our and everyone is like, "oh yeah, like Hoster Tully."

Way to cheapen my creative funeral plans, GoT.

Aaaanyways, your plan is better :P

I'll be getting cremated like a Targaryen. I'm not having beasties eat my body, thank you very much.

Also, has anyone been having issues with your posts getting flagged for security concerns and not being posted? I remember this happening a lot when I first joined NS, and then I didn't see that warning for ages. And now, it's suddenly resurfaced.

*Update* THIS message got flagged!

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Unfallious wrote:hi I'm running for Chancellor vote unf pls

What is your platform. What are your Policies

Percyton

Silsalia wrote:What is your platform. What are your Policies

This.

https://youtu.be/rSFZktZNySg?t=6

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Also, has anyone been having issues with your posts getting flagged for security concerns and not being posted? I remember this happening a lot when I first joined NS, and then I didn't see that warning for ages. And now, it's suddenly resurfaced.

*Update* THIS message got flagged!

I've gotten that issue once in a while, but I haven't gotten it recently. It seems like just a random(ish) system or coding error.

Percyton

Nuremgard wrote:This.

https://youtu.be/rSFZktZNySg?t=6

whats his real policies?

Silsalia wrote:whats his real policies?

I don't know.

Glorious Leader: Gu-Guys... what's that about the N-Day? I'm very confused con someone explain me what's going on?

Everyone nukes the opposite side and eats catnip once it finishes

Jaslandia wrote:I've gotten that issue once in a while, but I haven't gotten it recently. It seems like just a random(ish) system or coding error.

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Also, has anyone been having issues with your posts getting flagged for security concerns and not being posted? I remember this happening a lot when I first joined NS, and then I didn't see that warning for ages. And now, it's suddenly resurfaced.

*Update* THIS message got flagged!

I'm pretty ignorant on the coding of the site, but as far as I can garner from having my phone give me such a message pretty drastically often, I think it's probably something in the site not wanting to keep your "session" open for an extended period of time.

Like, imagine that when you open NS you get a security key that allows you to choose what you want to do. After a time this key becomes invalid and it checks if you're still logged in, but this glitch would seem to be based in some error that fails to give you a proper key after the first one becomes invalid.

A similar issue I get is that the forums signs me out after ai read a few pages of content.

Jaslandia, Percyton

i bleached my hair:)

Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Confederacy of Free Nations,

Due to personal reasons, I will not seek a second term. As well, I will be taking a leave of absence from all political activities in the region.

I trust that a new Minister of Internal Affairs will rise to the challenge where I have failed, and maybe can lead you all in a better than I could.

Sincerely,

Sulania, Minister of Internal Affairs

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Sulania wrote:Confederacy of Free Nations,

Due to personal reasons, I will not seek a second term. As well, I will be taking a leave of absence from all political activities in the region.

I trust that a new Minister of Internal Affairs will rise to the challenge where I have failed, and maybe can lead you all in a better than I could.

Sincerely,

Sulania, Minister of Internal Affairs

To all member of Cabinet, ministerial Roles and to the Chancellor himself.

You have not failed this region. We may face setbacks but we can rise above them anew!

Viva La Liberte

Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=1Pgiq-TlmSo

Get

fvcking

wreaked

you

damn

turkey

Vista Major

Gorgeous Leader: I legalized euthanasia, so if someone has edgy teenagers that always say "I want to die because I'm an angel with broken wings and this is not my place" send them to me. Thank you and long live to NCR!

Peoples Liberation Republic

I declare myself eternal god-king of NationStates.

Jaslandia, The Empire Of Handland, The Vidnoye, Axeldonia, The Cross And Davids Star, Percyton

Another N-Day? Considering the last time NS had an N-Day Diesel 10 staged a coup and took control over the government for nearly two days, I'm a little bit worried. So, on the advice of my ministers and Chief Adviser Gordon, I will be increasing surveillance of Diesel and Diesel 10, since they were the coup leaders last time. As before, me and most of my government will evacuate to a bunker underneath Tidmouth Sheds, while the rest of the government will be evacuated to the Mainland. So stay safe everyone, and don't forget to protect yourself from coups!

Sulania wrote:Confederacy of Free Nations,

Due to personal reasons, I will not seek a second term. As well, I will be taking a leave of absence from all political activities in the region.

I trust that a new Minister of Internal Affairs will rise to the challenge where I have failed, and maybe can lead you all in a better than I could.

Sincerely,

Sulania, Minister of Internal Affairs

Thank you for your service, Sul.

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

Confederal States wrote:EVERYONE

I'm the [nation=short]United Continental States[/nation]. This will be my new main nation. The only thing changing will be my name and my government. My spot on the map and everything else shall stay the same.

Soo....You just went to the other side of the Mason-Dixon Line? xP

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Confederal States

Juggling whether to run for Minister of Internal Affairs, Chancellor, or Speaker. Would greatly appreciate some public insight <3

Penguania And Antarctica

Vista Major wrote:Juggling whether to run for Minister of Internal Affairs, Chancellor, or Speaker. Would greatly appreciate some public insight <3

Vista best MOIA I ever done did saw.

Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, South Hyder

Tserra wrote:Vista best MOIA I ever done did saw.

*private part of Sully summons Mike Tyson to ghost Tse :p*

The Implementation of the Kongolese Stratocracy and Continual Arrests of NAU Opposition: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=421225&p=32395033#p32395033

Vista Major

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:The Implementation of the Kongolese Stratocracy and Continual Arrests of NAU Opposition: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=421225&p=32395033#p32395033

boy oh boy...

Peoples Liberation Republic, Vista Major, Axeldonia, Andromitus

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:The Implementation of the Kongolese Stratocracy and Continual Arrests of NAU Opposition: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=421225&p=32395033#p32395033

This is cause for war

Tserra wrote:Vista best MOIA I ever done did saw.

Well, thank you

Confederal States, South Hyder

Vista Major wrote:This is cause for war

Well, thank you

Me implementing a Stratocracy is a cause for war? Why?

Vista Major, Confederal States

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:Me implementing a Stratocracy is a cause for war? Why?

Antidemocracy leads to abuse of civil rights on all ends

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:Me implementing a Stratocracy is a cause for war? Why?

I had to Google stratocracy.

Peoples Liberation Republic, Vista Major, Axeldonia, Andromitus, Confederal States, Nueva Castilla Real

Vista Major wrote:Antidemocracy leads to abuse of civil rights on all ends

So...You're wanting to go to war with me because of my Stratocracy. Well I'm not stopping the Stratocracy. It is a shame you don't like it but the Kongo needs it. Civil rights abuse...eh but oh well. If you're going to declare war because of that, then that is on you

The Vidnoye

Glorious Leader: The best part of being a open door country is that I can speak with other leaders in other lenguajes, but oh boy, stratocracy? I've never heard of that word. In Spain the things are easier, and in NCR, even more. ComeToNCR-ComeToNCR-ComeToNCR.

Jaslandia

Nueva Castilla Real wrote:Glorious Leader: The best part of being a open door country is that I can speak with other leaders in other lenguajes, but oh boy, stratocracy? I've never heard of that word. In Spain the things are easier, and in NCR, even more. ComeToNCR-ComeToNCR-ComeToNCR.

Being a dictatorship, you two should get along just fine -_-

Down with Tyranny, Æden Prevails!

Jaslandia, Nueva Castilla Real

Fellow Leaders

Could we not join together in an economic Union with in our Region

This would mean

1. Using the same Currency

2. Convening together to discuss economically matters

3. Talking about issues relating to other aspects of our Nation building.

Andromitus wrote:Being a dictatorship, you two should get along just fine -_-

Down with Tyranny, Æden Prevails!

Some tyrannies are good. I have a couple of good dictatorships myself. :P

Could we not join together in an economic Union with in our Region[/quote]

OOC - I think a good place to take this would be the Regional Roleplay RMB ( https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_confederacy_general ) but I like where this is going, our Region needs a good U.N. or W.A. to keep everyone from trying to kill each other ┻━┻ ミヽ(ಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

(Although I do believe you might get some stark opposition from a few notable parties)

Nuremgard wrote:Some tyrannies are good. I have a couple of good dictatorships myself. :P

Yea well, I can't get through a day without crushing the dreams of one or two Dictators :3

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Andromitus wrote:Could we not join together in an economic Union with in our Region

OOC - I think a good place to take this would be the Regional Roleplay RMB ( https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_confederacy_general ) but I like where this is going, our Region needs a good U.N. or W.A. to keep everyone from trying to kill each other ┻━┻ ミヽ(ಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

(Although I do believe you might get some stark opposition from a few notable parties)

Yea well, I can't get through a day without crushing the dreams of one or two Dictators :3[/quote]

You will not crush the dreams of my dictators!

Jaslandia, Confederal States

Silsalia wrote:-snip-

Andromitus wrote:Could we not join together in an economic Union with in our Region

OOC - I think a good place to take this would be the Regional Roleplay RMB ( https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_confederacy_general ) but I like where this is going, our Region needs a good U.N. or W.A. to keep everyone from trying to kill each other ┻━┻ ミヽ(ಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻[/quote]

Meant to Quote You Sil, sorry :P

Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:OOC - I think a good place to take this would be the Regional Roleplay RMB ( https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_confederacy_general ) but I like where this is going, our Region needs a good U.N. or W.A. to keep everyone from trying to kill each other ┻━┻ ミヽ(ಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

(Although I do believe you might get some stark opposition from a few notable parties)

Yea well, I can't get through a day without crushing the dreams of one or two Dictators :3

You will not crush the dreams of my dictators!

How has it been two years since we joined that we've not figured out how to correct for accidental end quotes :P

Andromitus wrote:Could we not join together in an economic Union with in our Region

OOC - I think a good place to take this would be the Regional Roleplay RMB ( https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_confederacy_general ) but I like where this is going, our Region needs a good U.N. or W.A. to keep everyone from trying to kill each other ┻━┻ ミヽ(ಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

(Although I do believe you might get some stark opposition from a few notable parties)

Yea well, I can't get through a day without crushing the dreams of one or two Dictators :3

Last time we tried something like that, there were threats of jihad from Fried and RF :P

Kalaron wrote:How has it been two years since we joined that we've not figured out how to correct for accidental end quotes :P

Last time we tried something like that, there were threats of jihad from Fried and RF :P

Well if Sil wants to do try something like that IC he's more than welcome too

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