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Well they made that promise. "Vote to stay in the UK to keep EU membership." So they lied and broke their promise.
Electoral campaigns in the UK usually don't last for over a year, so people in 2014 weren't aware of a possible Brexit referendum.
Yukona
Just like Salmond promised that the Scottish independence referendum was the referendum of a generation.
Myself included!
Mercunova
No he didn't. He said, in his resignation speech and in his personal opinion, that the referendum was once in a generation.
You sound like one of those annoying unionists who hates Salmond but cherry picks that one line as if it's gospel.
Mercunova
No politician or government can bind future governments to obey certain laws or stop referendums/elections.
I came back to the COFN before it was cool.
Everestopia, Mercunova
Just like the No campaign's promise isn't gospel either.
True. Regardless, the SNP have an indyref in their manifesto. We will have our say again. Unionists should welcome another referendum since they believe the case for the UK is so strong, and Scots will vote for it again.
If we Yessers lose again, the issue will have been settled for a long time. But losing does not mean we need to become silent. We will continue to believe in and argue for independence. That's democracy.
The majority can be misled, and quite easily. If you (David Cameron) compromise your principles (that you've already been elected on) for fear of losing to extremism, then you're not a fvcking leader. If you (Theresa May) won't tell the public that this idea they've had (Leave) is going to literally destroy the country because "hurr durr will of the people," then you're not a fvcking leader. Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. Cameron and May were weathercocks and because of that not only is everyone worse off, no one is even happy about it!
Nuremgard, Yukona
Out with Sturgeon! In with Davidson!
Ooooh but calling the electorate is stupid and elitist. You wont win people over to your side by insulting them etc. etc. Even if what they have voted for is objectively stupid, you're not allowed to say it because "waah ma feelings!"
And they call us lefties snowflakes.
Davidson has more chance of sprouting wings and flying to England for a safe Tory seat than becoming First Minister. Although her f*cking off to England for a safe Tory seat would be great.
The SNP only won a third of the vote in Scotland in the most recent UK general election. They aren't exactly representative of what the Scottish people want.
Everestopia
Yes, but I'm one of the originals sweetie.
I was running the region as Chancellor over 3 and half terms... I don't recall you for any, sorry. So welcome!
Mercunova
I'm actually pretty okay with Davidson.
Everestopia
Yes they are. They still won the majority of seats.
Nah, she'll pick up!
That's because you don't know her. She's vile.
Nah, she wont. Scotland's reached peak Tory. The unionist and Orange vote has coalesced around her.
I came back in 2017. Also, your Chancellorship was marred with corruption.
Preach!
Gualimole
Not really.
Under a sh!tty and undemocratic first past the post voting system, that is.
Tough sh!t. Them's the rules the unionists love so much. SNP still has a majority.
What are your thoughts on Margaret Thatcher?
I don't have an issue with First past the post.
Yeah. Tories hold 13 seats out of 59. Clearly Scotland has turned true blue. *eye roll*
Down with Sturgeon, up with Leonard!
At the risk of sounding like a first-year Model United Nations delegate, "It starts with education."
I mean, on social issues she's pretty okay. She even gets Liberal Diversity Points (LDPs) for being gay! I know nothing about her economics, but assuming it's in line with the typical Conservative nonsense, I'd never vote for her. (Ignoring the fact that I'll never get the chance) I mean, speaking practically, if she happened to get in for a term, it wouldn't be the end of the world. (Which is my general benchmark for political candidates nowadays)
Out with sturgeon, in with cod!
Everestopia, Gualimole, Midasia
Umm.. work in progress, obviously ;P
It's been pretty good, Britain's made some absurd claim about what they'll do, so that's given me some fun.
Midasia
It's easy to say that when the Tories benefit most from it.
Bearlong
Could do a better job...
Oh, my God, naw lol. You seriously don't know anything about Scottish politics if you think Leonard is a serious contender for First Minister. He's even worse than Dugdale and that's saying something.
Out with cod, in with Tuna!
Mercunova, Midasia
I don't think of her. And the more I see, the less I think of her.
Preach!
Nuremgard, Gualimole
Her party is full of racists and bigots and she openly courted the Orange Order vote in Scotland at the last election. She's an arsehole.
How?
Sturgeon's the best leader in the UK right now. Not my fault your strong and stable leader is a spineless jellyfish.
That's not why.
I don't want my vote being recast to another, like it does in the AV system. Which is a load of horse sh*t.
He doesn't know what powers are devolved and which are retained. He wouldn't make a very good FM if he doesn't even know what he'd be in charge of.
You get to choose who it is recast to under AV. You have more choice under a ranked system or a score system.
Nuremgard
So you'd rather the votes of your fellow countrymen become meaningless with FPTP?
Elaborate.
I never wanted May... I hoped Phillip Hammond would run for leadership.
He complains to the Scottish Government about reserved matters, whining that they should do something about it because he believes they have the power when they don't. The irony is he wouldn't want those reserved powers to go to the Scottish Parliament because he's a unionist.
Also, opposing proportional representation just because you don't like AV is dumb. There are many different forms of proportional representation. For example, under MMP, you get a proportional legislature and your vote doesn't get recast.
Bearlong
Wow. Such talent lol
Examples?
I'd rather have another election than see my vote go to some socialist party like labour or the Dems.
http://www.thenational.scot/news/16110652.Leonard_gets_confused_over_reserved_powers_____again/
LOL. You think Labour is socialist. Bless. It's full of Blairite Tory w*nkers.
He'll be PM one day, I'll put money on it.
He'll be PM one day, I'll put money on it.
I don't care. They're all Tories, they're all bastards.
I'm surprised to see you support Hammond when he opposed same-sex marriage.
Huh. I was not aware of that.
Tories will do anything to secure their own pockets, even vote for people who would see them have less rights. That's why I cant wrap my head around why gay people vote Tory.
But I suppose every demographic has selfish people.
Gualimole
If you were in my shoes for a week, you'd see I'm not selfish. At all.
I just like to keep my hard earned for me.
Mercunova
Which is why you're willing to overlook the fact that Hammond thinks you should have less rights by virtue of being gay. All so you can have a tax cut.
I think that's sad but hey ho.
gu ifrinn le na toraidhean
Nuremgard, Jaslandia
We've already established that your wealth is stolen, so don't give me the crap about keeping the wealth of others in your pockets.
We speak English here
Midasia
Correction: Most of us speak English here.
math dhut
Puedo decir palabras sucias en español.
Mear
Mierda
Coño
Hijo de puta
Tetas
Wow, you do have a dirty mouth. Also #4 is rude.
Those words also have a name, groserías.
Kiuj moderantoj nun faros?
Your Esperanto makes little sense.
.لا أهتم
Now you know Arabic apparently. Me haces morir a veces :p
https://pics.me.me/do-you-agree-you-should-never-have-to-press-1-13030952.png
Is that one of those posters from the "us poor American whites are so oppressed" types?
Midasia
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/74/6e/52/746e5252353ebcd198c424badae30638.jpg
Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Gualimole
Beautiful. That's the alt-right and conservatives' problem. They want so desperately to be seen as strong and not politically correct but at the same time, they want to be poor victims who are being oppressed/genocided in their own countries.
When I hear people talk about "white genocide" and "oppression" it actually makes me sick. They have no idea what true genocide and oppression is. Like Christians who whinge about Christmas being wiped out of American culture or something.
There are Christians in the Middle East who are killed for their faith. That's f*cking oppression. Hearing Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas does not mean you understand how a Jew felt under Nazi Germany, you f*cking piece of sh!t.
Jaslandia, Gualimole
Is it just me, or have other people also noticed that the regional RMBs tend to be more left-wing than NationStates's forum?
Russkov Soviet, Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Yukona
Guten Abend/ Good evening/ Bon soir :D
Nuremgard, Jaslandia
Good morning!
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
Evening Peng
Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica
Well, suffice to say her cuts to defense spending would have lead to a situation like today, wherein the British military is in dire straits (hehe) had it not been stopped. So, I view her roughly as negatively as I view the events that lead to the Revolt of the Admirals in America, really.
I haven't really studied her so that's the extent of my knowledge. On the bright side, she wouldn't have ended up trying to shuttle light fighting vehicles into the rolls of tanks, though :p
Heyo Pengo.
Penguania And Antarctica
How are you all? :)
I'm mostly fine. Also, the amount of people who believe the right-wing lies about Sweden is concerning.
https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=446244
Nuremgard, Penguania And Antarctica
Oh?
Yes. For example, I'm pretty sure no-go zones don't exist. Not only that, but this idea that accepting refugees increases crime is a myth.
https://www.citylab.com/equity/2017/02/refugee-resettlement-v-crime/516471/
Nuremgard
I actually live near El Cajon, one of the communities in the US that have accepted a large number of immigrants and refugees from Iraq.
Nuremgard
Wo wo wo, how is it stole?
Penguania And Antarctica
Quite fine
Penguania And Antarctica
The surplus value of the labor of the workers is stolen by unnecessary middlemen like you and the capitalists as capital gain. Under the capitalist system, for a business to be successful, they have to pay their workers less than the value of their work is worth.
Yukona
I'm good. Just writing and using CMANO.
As a piece of advice I wanted to drop back when he said your time in office was corrupt, but, if he wants to start an argument, it tends to be for the best to just ignore it.
Penguania And Antarctica
Wew.
Yukona
Just filled leader's name and customised pretitle...
Russkov Soviet
What does "reformed kingdom" mean?
Nothing I guess. I accidentaly back-spaced all over United Kingdom and when typing it again I thought Reformed would sound nice
Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Gualimole
Valid point.
He treats everyone who slightly angers him this way. I wouldn't trust him, especially when he tries to stir public opinion against people for the silliest of reasons.
Anyhow, how are you, Ev? I know we weren't exactly the best of friends, before :P
Penguania And Antarctica
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