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Nuremgard wrote:I'm sorry to hear that. Surreal isn't it?

Sure is. It sure is.

Yukona wrote:Sure is. It sure is.

What annoyed me about the report was that they kept mentioning the police officer who had been killed and how our thoughts were with the officers and their families. Well what about the families of the civilians? And that MP in Parliament didn't even give the civilians a mention but mentioned the police.

Nuremgard wrote:What annoyed me about the report was that they kept mentioning the police officer who had been killed and how our thoughts were with the officers and their families. Well what about the families of the civilians? And that MP in Parliament didn't even give the civilians a mention but mentioned the police.

I don't know about that. Nitpicking at what was said and what wasn't said is - I think - foolish at this time. Hindsight is 20/20, there was a lot going on and there's been trillions of reports going out. Clearly he didn't have the best idea of what was going on and conflicting reports don't help when you're in the (at the time) most locked down place in Britain.

Lavan Tiri

Yukona wrote:I don't know about that. Nitpicking at what was said and what wasn't said is - I think - foolish at this time. Hindsight is 20/20, there was a lot going on and there's been trillions of reports going out. Clearly he didn't have the best idea of what was going on and conflicting reports don't help when you're in the (at the time) most locked down place in Britain.

True. I wonder if they'll catch the other one.

Lavan Tiri

Nuremgard wrote:True. I wonder if they'll catch the other one.

There's another?

Lavan Tiri

Yukona wrote:There's another?

Yeah there were 2 attackers and one of them is still on the loose.

Lavan Tiri, Yukona

Nuremgard wrote:Yeah there were 2 attackers and one of them is still on the loose.

Savages:

; It's the only way I can describe them

Nuremgard, Lavan Tiri

Nuremgard wrote:Yeah there were 2 attackers and one of them is still on the loose.

Hope the police get the other fvcker.

He deserves a little smashing beforehand.

Nuremgard, Lavan Tiri

Kalaron wrote:Hope the police get the other fvcker.

He deserves a little smashing beforehand.

Needs to be kept alive though in case he's part of a larger cell.

Lavan Tiri, Yukona

Nuremgard wrote:Needs to be kept alive though in case he's part of a larger cell.

Who said it was deadly smashing?

By all means, find it out; get the others too.

Nuremgard, Lavan Tiri

Andromitus wrote:*under breath* jeezus how many are there, Yea, I'm a Diligent, basically I act on behalf of the Collective (our direct Democratic system), so when you talk to me, you're actually talking to everyone in Andromitus.

Donald: I see.

Douglas: Hullo there, fowk of Andromitus!

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica

REGIONAL SONG OF THE DAY

Day 22: Blur - "Parklife" (link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSuHrTfcikU)

Thank you for reading, papa bless

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Andromitus, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

To everyone who applied for an executive position:

[I]No later than Sunday evening, you will receive a telegram from me detailing your new job(s) and assignments. If you do not receive a telegram, you may assume that you did not receive a position. You may contact me for a possible appeal. Thank you all for applying.

If anyone has any questions or concerns, regardless of whether or not they got a position, telegram me ASAP.[/I]

~VM

Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Just saw La La Land. Anyone else?

Vista Major

Aldaur wrote:Just saw La La Land. Anyone else?

Nah, didn't really appeal to me.

Aldaur, Yukona

Hey all, how are you today?

Vista Major, Magnatronia

Kalaron wrote:Hey all, how are you today?

Great! I just opted to brainwash my employees by adding sedatives to the water. Now they praise their god, me, every other hour of the day.

Aghrabia

Magnatronia wrote:Great! I just opted to brainwash my employees by adding sedatives to the water. Now they praise their god, me, every other hour of the day.

Thank god someone responded.

I'm going legit stir-crazy right now, so much so that I can't even complain about sedatives not making your people worship you.

Magnatronia wrote:Great! I just opted to brainwash my employees by adding sedatives to the water. Now they praise their god, me, every other hour of the day.

I can't tell if your better or worse then INGSOC (1984)

The Royal Republic Of Kumania

Kalaron wrote:Thank god someone responded.

I'm going legit stir-crazy right now, so much so that I can't even complain about sedatives not making your people worship you.

Shhhhhh

Andromitus wrote:I can't tell if your better or worse then INGSOC (1984)

Awww thanks!

Andromitus wrote:I can't tell if your better or worse then INGSOC (1984)

Posted on Confederacy General, and I'm waiting for someone to post on the Viper RP

Just gonna expand a bit on why only WA nations should be on the map.

[spoiler] The issue of puppetry has been a pretty big one throughout the different regions we've made, and the simple fact is that the only real, reliable, method of protection comes from WA. Latrovia's method of forum-based IP scanning is either legitimately terrifying or completely ineffectual, possibly both at the same time.

If Lat's little scanner works off of searching the Email IP, then it simply won't work. It will pull up the IP of the email server, probably based in California or Oregon.

If it pulls the actual IP, then it's terrifying as it's handing your approximate location to a person or persons across the internet, and depending on if Lat could even delegate that ability, he'll be a constant facet of that method.

Depending on it's capabilities too, it could be tricked far easier than WA, being vulnerable to the same alleged weakness of WA...proxy servers.

The other suggested method is actually worse, requiring that you merely....be active.

Anyone with an understanding of time will see the issue here. Activity across three puppets would hardly be difficult, and that person would gain three votes for the ten minutes they spent....humorously, otherwise honest people might fake multiple citizens in the belief that they were balancing the system.

As one can see, while WA might be vulnerable, there is only far weaker alternatives to it...this was a discussion on the map though, and here's my reasoning for why WA should be a prerequisite within reason -Sodor, for example, is hardly an active or large place, and as such it's fine in my mind for them to remain- for a placement on the map.

The issue isn't in incredibly small islands cropping up, it's in them cropping up and taking real, large spots and possibly joining certain alliances. This simply increases the power of those nations and radically unbalances the RP without us knowing if it's even a different person to the alliance founder.

WA allows for us to have a reasonable trust in that the people of an Alliance are all different people and while there are certain issues in RP I'd like to address soon, it's good that we at least have this knocked off. [/spoiler]

Ludania, The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Baxten, Aghrabia, Vista Major, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Pirate Kingdoms, Yukona, Magnatronia, Percyton

[spoiler=Today is March 23 and today are:]

Today is March 23 and today are:

- Day of Hungarian-Polish Friendship (Hungary, Poland)

- Day of the Sea (Bolivia)

- Ministry of Environment and Natural Resources Day (Azerbaijan)

- National Chia Day (United States)

- National Chip and Dip Day (United States)

- National Melba Toast Day (United States)

- National Near Miss Day (United States)

- National Puppy Day (United States)

- OK Day

- Pakistan Day (Pakistan)

- Promised Messiah Day (Ahmadiyya)

- World Meteorological Day

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 1400 – The Trần dynasty of Vietnam is deposed, after one hundred and seventy-five years of rule, by Hồ Quý Ly, a court official.

- 1540 – Waltham Abbey is surrendered to King Henry VIII of England; the last religious community to be closed during the Dissolution of the Monasteries.

- 1568 – The Peace of Longjumeau is signed, ending the second phase of the French Wars of Religion.

- 1708 – James Francis Edward Stuart lands at the Firth of Forth.

- 1775 – American Revolutionary War: Patrick Henry delivers his speech – "Give me liberty, or give me death!" – at St. John's Episcopal Church, Richmond, Virginia.

- 1801 – Tsar Paul I of Russia is struck with a sword, then strangled, and finally trampled to death inside his bedroom at St. Michael's Castle.

- 1806 – After traveling through the Louisiana Purchase and reaching the Pacific Ocean, explorers Lewis and Clark and their "Corps of Discovery" begin their arduous journey home.

- 1821 – Greek War of Independence: Battle and fall of city of Kalamata.

- 1848 – The ship John Wickliffe arrives at Port Chalmers carrying the first Scottish settlers for Dunedin, New Zealand. Otago province is founded.

- 1857 – Elisha Otis's first elevator is installed at 488 Broadway New York City.

- 1862 – The First Battle of Kernstown, Virginia, marks the start of Stonewall Jackson's Valley Campaign. Although a Confederate defeat, the engagement distracts Federal efforts to capture Richmond.

- 1868 – The University of California is founded in Oakland, California when the Organic Act is signed into law.

- 1879 – War of the Pacific: The Battle of Topáter, the first battle of the war is fought between Chile and the joint forces of Bolivia and Peru.

- 1885 – Sino-French War: Chinese victory in the Battle of Phu Lam Tao near Hưng Hóa, northern Vietnam.

- 1888 – In England, The Football League, the world's oldest professional association football league, meets for the first time.

- 1889 – The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is established by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in Qadian, British India.

- 1901 – Emilio Aguinaldo, only President of the First Philippine Republic, was captured at Palanan, Isabela by the forces of General Frederick Funston.

- 1905 – Eleftherios Venizelos calls for Crete's union with Greece, and begins what is to be known as the Theriso revolt.

- 1909 – Theodore Roosevelt leaves New York for a post-presidency safari in Africa. The trip is sponsored by the Smithsonian Institution and National Geographic Society.

- 1918 – First World War: On the third day of the German Spring Offensive, the 10th Battalion of the Royal West Kent Regiment is annihilated with many of the men becoming prisoners of war

- 1919 – In Milan, Italy, Benito Mussolini founds his Fascist political movement.

- 1931 – Bhagat Singh, Shivaram Rajguru and Sukhdev Thapar are hanged for the killing of a deputy superintendent of police during the Indian struggle for independence.

- 1933 – The Reichstag passes the Enabling Act of 1933, making Adolf Hitler dictator of Germany.

- 1935 – Signing of the Constitution of the Commonwealth of the Philippines.

- 1939 – The Hungarian air force attacks the headquarters of the Slovak air force in Spišská Nová Ves, killing 13 people and beginning the Slovak–Hungarian War.

- 1940 – The Lahore Resolution (Qarardad-e-Pakistan or Qarardad-e-Lahore) is put forward at the Annual General Convention of the All-India Muslim League.

- 1956 – Pakistan becomes the first Islamic republic in the world. (Republic Day in Pakistan)

- 1965 – NASA launches Gemini 3, the United States' first two-man space flight (crew: Gus Grissom and John Young).

- 1977 – The first of The Nixon Interviews (12 will be recorded over four weeks) are videotaped with British journalist David Frost interviewing former United States President Richard Nixon about the Watergate scandal and the Nixon tapes.

- 1978 – The first UNIFIL troops arrived in Lebanon for peacekeeping mission along the Blue Line.

- 1980 – Archbishop Óscar Romero of El Salvador gives his famous speech appealing to men of the El Salvadoran armed forces to stop killing the Salvadorans.

- 1982 – Guatemala's government, headed by Fernando Romeo Lucas García is overthrown in a military coup by right-wing General Efraín Ríos Montt.

- 1983 – Strategic Defense Initiative: President Ronald Reagan makes his initial proposal to develop technology to intercept enemy missiles.

- 1991 – The Revolutionary United Front, with support from the special forces of Charles Taylor's National Patriotic Front of Liberia, invades Sierra Leone in an attempt to overthrow Joseph Saidu Momoh, sparking a gruesome 11-year Sierra Leone Civil War.

- 1994 – At an election rally in Tijuana, Mexican presidential candidate Luis Donaldo Colosio is assassinated by Mario Aburto Martínez.

- 1994 – A United States Air Force (USAF) F-16 aircraft collides with a USAF C-130 at Pope Air Force Base and then crashes, killing 24 United States Army soldiers on the ground. This later became known as the Green Ramp disaster.

- 1994 – Aeroflot Flight 593 crashed into the Kuznetsk Alatau mountain, Kemerovo Oblast, Russia, killing 75.

- 1996 – Taiwan holds its first direct elections and chooses Lee Teng-hui as President.

- 1999 – Gunmen assassinate Paraguay's Vice President Luis María Argaña.

- 2001 – The Russian Mir space station is disposed of, breaking up in the atmosphere before falling into the southern Pacific Ocean near Fiji.

- 2003 – Battle of Nasiriyah, first major conflict during the invasion of Iraq.

- 2009 – FedEx Express Flight 80: A McDonnell Douglas MD-11 flying from Guangzhou, China crashes at Tokyo's Narita International Airport, killing both the captain and the co-pilot.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1749 – Pierre-Simon Laplace, French mathematician and astronomer

- 1754 – Jurij Vega, Slovene mathematician, physicist and artillery officer

- 1858 – Ludwig Quidde, German activist and politician, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1881 – Hermann Staudinger, German chemist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1882 – Emmy Noether, Jewish German-American mathematician, physicist and academic

- 1887 – Juan Gris, Spanish painter and sculptor

- 1900 – Erich Fromm, German psychologist and sociologist

- 1907 – Daniel Bovet, Swiss-Italian pharmacologist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1910 – Akira Kurosawa, Japanese director, producer and screenwriter

- 1912 – Wernher von Braun, German-American physicist and engineer

- 1924 – Bette Nesmith Graham, American inventor, invented Liquid Paper

- 1929 – Roger Bannister, English runner, neurologist and academic

- 1937 – Robert Gallo, American physician and academic

- 1942 – Michael Haneke, Austrian director, producer and screenwriter

- 1956 – José Manuel Barroso, Portuguese academic and politician, 115th Prime Minister of Portugal

- 1968 – Damon Albarn, English singer-songwriter, producer and actor

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Quote of the day

The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary.

- Vince Lombari -

Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.

Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Vista Major, Percyton

That moment your serious writing gets six likes but no one ever laughs at your puns.

:0(

No one's down with the clown.

Jaslandia, Aghrabia

Kalaron wrote:That moment your serious writing gets six likes but no one ever laughs at your puns.

:0(

No one's down with the clown.

Post something on any rp

Now

Magnatronia wrote:Post something on any rp

Now

I refuse you jackboot ninnynanny.

Aghrabia

Kalaron wrote:I refuse you jackboot ninnynanny.

What did u call me

Magnatronia wrote:What did u call me

A jackboot ninnynanny.

I thought that was obvious :P

Kalaron wrote:A jackboot ninnynanny.

I thought that was obvious :P

U wanna fite boi

Aghrabia

Magnatronia wrote:U wanna fite boi

Ach, both of you are totty-headed twiddlepoops

Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Andromitus

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:Ach, both of you are totty-headed twiddlepoops

Bish

I made a flag for the flag contest, I sent it to Oelesa.

Vista Major, Oelesa

Orcala wrote:I made a flag for the flag contest, I sent it to Oelesa.

http://i67.tinypic.com/2uduwdu.png

this is it

Vista Major, Oelesa, Percyton

https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=85957

I like how I called myself "the Chancellor"

#nostagia #cfnforeverz

Oelesa

Post self-deleted by Aghrabia.

REGIONAL SONG OF THE DAY

Day 26: Edward Elgar - "Salut d'amour, Op.12" (link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXLOF-z5Zlk)

Thank you for reading, papa bless

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Kalaron wrote: -Sodor, for example, is hardly an active or large place, and as such it's fine in my mind for them to remain- for a placement on the map.

The issue isn't in incredibly small islands cropping up, it's in them cropping up and taking real, large spots and possibly joining certain alliances.

I don't think Sodor feels 'incredibly small' when you're on it, but still, thank you for recognizing us. I was just about to ask if Percyton would have to give up its map spot under this proposed policy.

Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Kalaron, Penguania And Antarctica

sad that I didn't get speaker of the house; surely I'll win the flag contest, right

Andromitus, Oelesa, Percyton

Orcala wrote:sad that I didn't get speaker of the house; surely I'll win the flag contest, right

Surely

Orcala

Oelesa wrote:Surely

my flag is pretty dank

Alright, just gonna post a very tiny bit more about, with a focus on RP.

[Spoiler]I've seen some....lets call it...pushback to the idea of restraining the number of troops that a nation may hold for an RP. Furthermore, this has extended even into the realm of naval warfare and the numbers of ships a nation may hold.

To be honest, this wouldn't be a problem if we had the best RPers on the whole planet -not to critize the skill of most of our RPers, I'm just pointing out what would be a requirement- because we would never experience the same issues we do nowadays.

An RP is much like a book written by multiple people; it has many authors and follows certain rules.

Indeed, the reason we have rules is very similar to why authors have rules. A rule provides an intelligent convention through which a story can be written, this isn't to say that you may not break such a rule but that you must be skilled enough to do it well.

Clearly there's a massive difference between the writing of a five-year-old and that of "Ulysses", yet both undeniably violate the rules of writing, and it is in this difference that we see the clear cut difference between those who should violate the rules and those who shouldn't. The "Master" knows and skillfully works around rules that are there to improve the works of the "novice".

In the same way, an RP is protected from super-massive militaries, or metagamers that divulge the whole plot into one-line responses followed by pseudo-tactics or from the infamous "All the nukes disarm before impacting, everyone's saved :D " through having rules of it's own.

Furthermore, on the whole subject of invasions...just get it cleared with the nation that will be invaded, please.

I can't stress how stupid this whole issue would be if it happened now considering the massive backlash that occured earlier against Bax originally for invading without talking to Flynn.

Back to the original matter though, troop and ship limits:

This is needed to prevent the Lolarmies and Lolnavies that would rise up out of the oh-so-human lack of knowledge on a proper composition that doesn't massively overpower you, or create what I've come to call "America-itius" wherein every nation creates a super-power military that would devastate RL navies on an order of magnitude.

...I don't know what else to say? [/spoiler]

Baxten, Aghrabia, Andromitus

Kalaron wrote:Alright, just gonna post a very tiny bit more about, with a focus on RP.

[Spoiler]I've seen some....lets call it...pushback to the idea of restraining the number of troops that a nation may hold for an RP. Furthermore, this has extended even into the realm of naval warfare and the numbers of ships a nation may hold.

To be honest, this wouldn't be a problem if we had the best RPers on the whole planet -not to critize the skill of most of our RPers, I'm just pointing out what would be a requirement- because we would never experience the same issues we do nowadays.

An RP is much like a book written by multiple people; it has many authors and follows certain rules.

Indeed, the reason we have rules is very similar to why authors have rules. A rule provides an intelligent convention through which a story can be written, this isn't to say that you may not break such a rule but that you must be skilled enough to do it well.

Clearly there's a massive difference between the writing of a five-year-old and that of "Ulysses", yet both undeniably violate the rules of writing, and it is in this difference that we see the clear cut difference between those who should violate the rules and those who shouldn't. The "Master" knows and skillfully works around rules that are there to improve the works of the "novice".

In the same way, an RP is protected from super-massive militaries, or metagamers that divulge the whole plot into one-line responses followed by pseudo-tactics or from the infamous "All the nukes disarm before impacting, everyone's saved :D " through having rules of it's own.

Furthermore, on the whole subject of invasions...just get it cleared with the nation that will be invaded, please.

I can't stress how stupid this whole issue would be if it happened now considering the massive backlash that occured earlier against Bax originally for invading without talking to Flynn.

Back to the original matter though, troop and ship limits:

This is needed to prevent the Lolarmies and Lolnavies that would rise up out of the oh-so-human lack of knowledge on a proper composition that doesn't massively overpower you, or create what I've come to call "America-itius" wherein every nation creates a super-power military that would devastate RL navies on an order of magnitude.

...I don't know what else to say? [/spoiler]

I don't think there is much else to say on the matter; none of us, myself included, are experts at storytelling, and as long as it's just and implemented properly, I'll agree with it.

Everyone who received an executive job has now been notified of their positions and assignments.

Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Andromitus wrote:I don't think there is much else to say on the matter; none of us, myself included, are experts at storytelling, and as long as it's just and implemented properly, I'll agree with it.

I agree pretty hard here.

A rule has to be just and fair, and that's part of why I made those two comments as it was in the interests of keeping our RP's fair in terms of upper-military-power (Admittedly, I also was annoyed with the fact that Lat's only response to my exact points two days ago were to call me a white knight and to state that the Government needs to commandeer the map from Baxten for some reason?) and in protecting RPs from Meta-gaming.

Aghrabia

Kalaron wrote:I agree pretty hard here.

A rule has to be just and fair, and that's part of why I made those two comments as it was in the interests of keeping our RP's fair in terms of upper-military-power (Admittedly, I also was annoyed with the fact that Lat's only response to my exact points two days ago were to call me a white knight and to state that the Government needs to commandeer the map from Baxten for some reason?) and in protecting RPs from Meta-gaming.

I agree with what you said. Lat's been saying the government should take control of the map since he was President. He said he'd appoint me to do it, but nothing ever really changed. So I don't know what he'd have in plan now (maybe he'd take control, idk), but map changes and cartographer changes can only happen through voting so, unless Lat or anyone else is voted to be cartographer, there shouldn't be any problems.

Baxten wrote:I agree with what you said. Lat's been saying the government should take control of the map since he was President. He said he'd appoint me to do it, but nothing ever really changed. So I don't know what he'd have in plan now (maybe he'd take control, idk), but map changes and cartographer changes can only happen through voting so, unless Lat or anyone else is voted to be cartographer, there shouldn't be any problems.

Ugh, yeah no.

No government control, please.

I view the map with the same vision as the Discord; it's a public utility controlled privately and with a focus on providing legal service.

Will you suddenly remove two thirds of the map because you don't like them? No, of course not.

Will I suddenly lose my mind and go so whacko as to suddenly begin arbitrarily removong people from Discord over an argument? No, of course not.

Frankly, a government cartographer is a waste of a space considering that -as you said- people could just vote for a new map made and maintained by someone else.

Baxten, Aghrabia, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, Maurician

Kalaron wrote:Ugh, yeah no.

No government control, please.

I view the map with the same vision as the Discord; it's a public utility controlled privately and with a focus on providing legal service.

Will you suddenly remove two thirds of the map because you don't like them? No, of course not.

Will I suddenly lose my mind and go so whacko as to suddenly begin arbitrarily removong people from Discord over an argument? No, of course not.

Frankly, a government cartographer is a waste of a space considering that -as you said- people could just vote for a new map made and maintained by someone else.

*future map of the Magnatronian empire

Aghrabia, Andromitus, Oelesa, Yukona

Magnatronia wrote:*future map of the Magnatronian empire

Taking props from my past maggy?

Magnatronia

I urge all to check my latest tweet.

Hello people. I am very sorry for the lateness of this post and apologize for any inconvenience this caused.

[spoiler=Today is March 24 and today are:]

Today is March 24 and today are:

- Commonwealth Covenant Day (Northern Mariana Islands)

- Day of Remembrance for Truth and Justice (Argentina)

- International Day for the Right to the Truth Concerning Gross Human Rights Violations and for the Dignity of Victims

- National Cheesesteak Day (United States)

- National Chocolate Covered Raisin Day (United States)

- National Tree Planting Day (Uganda)

- Student Day (Scientology)

- World Tuberculosis Day

[/spoiler]

[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 1401 – Turco-Mongol emperor Timur sacks Damascus.

- 1603 – James VI of Scotland becomes James I of England and Ireland, upon the death of Elizabeth I.

- 1603 – Tokugawa Ieyasu is granted the title of shogun from Emperor Go-Yōzei, and establishes the Tokugawa shogunate in Edo, Japan.

- 1663 – The Province of Carolina is granted by charter to eight Lords Proprietor in reward for their assistance in restoring Charles II of England to the throne.

- 1720 – Count Frederick of Hesse-Kassel is elected King of Sweden by the Riksdag of the Estates, after his consort Ulrika Eleonora abdicated the throne on 29 February

- 1721 – Johann Sebastian Bach dedicated six concertos to Margrave Christian Ludwig of Brandenburg-Schwedt, now commonly called the Brandenburg Concertos, BWV 1046–1051.

- 1731 – Naturalization of Hieronimus de Salis Parliamentary Act is passed.

- 1765 – Great Britain passes the Quartering Act, which requires the Thirteen Colonies to house British troops.

- 1829 – The Parliament of the United Kingdom passes the Roman Catholic Relief Act 1829, allowing Catholics to serve in Parliament.

- 1832 – In Hiram, Ohio, a group of men beat and tar and feather Mormon leader Joseph Smith.

- 1837 – Canada gives African Canadian men the right to vote.

- 1854 – Slavery is abolished in Venezuela.

- 1860 – Sakuradamon Incident: Assassination of Japanese Chief Minister (Tairō) Ii Naosuke.

- 1869 – The last of Titokowaru's forces surrendered to the New Zealand government, ending his uprising.

- 1878 – The British frigate HMS Eurydice sinks, killing more than 300.

- 1882 – Robert Koch announces the discovery of Mycobacterium tuberculosis, the bacterium responsible for tuberculosis.

- 1885 – Sino-French War: Chinese victory in the Battle of Bang Bo on the Tonkin–Guangxi border.

- 1896 – A. S. Popov makes the first radio signal transmission in history.

- 1900 – Mayor of New York City Robert Anderson Van Wyck breaks ground for a new underground "Rapid Transit Railroad" that would link Manhattan and Brooklyn.

- 1907 – The first issue of the Georgian Bolshevik newspaper Dro is published.

- 1921 – The 1921 Women's Olympiad begins in Monte Carlo, first international women's sports event

- 1927 – Nanking Incident: Foreign warships bombard Nanjing, China, in defense of the foreign citizens within the city.

- 1934 – United States Congress passes the Tydings–McDuffie Act, allowing the Philippines to become a self-governing commonwealth.

- 1944 – Ardeatine massacre: German troops murder 335 Italian civilians in Rome.

- 1944 – World War II: In an event later dramatized in the movie The Great Escape, 76 Allied prisoners of war begin breaking out of the German camp Stalag Luft III.

- 1946 – A British Cabinet Mission arrives in India to discuss and plan for the transfer of power from the British Raj to Indian leadership.

- 1958 – Rock 'n' roll teen idol Elvis Presley is drafted in the U.S. Army.

- 1961 – Quebec Board of the French Language is established.

- 1965 – Images from the Ranger 9 lunar probe are broadcast live on network television.

- 1973 – Kenyan athlete Kip Keino defeats Jim Ryun at the first-ever professional track meet in Los Angeles.

- 1976 – In Argentina, the armed forces overthrow the constitutional government of President Isabel Perón and start a 7-year dictatorial period self-styled the National Reorganization Process.

- 1980 – El Salvadorian Archbishop Óscar Romero is assassinated while celebrating Mass in San Salvador.

- 1986 – The Loscoe gas explosion leads to new UK laws on landfill gas migration and gas protection on landfill sites.

- 1989 – In Prince William Sound in Alaska, the Exxon Valdez spills 240,000 barrels (38,000 m3) of crude oil after running aground.

- 1993 – Discovery of Comet Shoemaker–Levy 9.

- 1998 – Mitchell Johnson and Andrew Golden, aged 11 and 13 respectively, fire upon teachers and students at Westside Middle School in Jonesboro, Arkansas; five people are killed and ten are wounded.

- 1998 – A tornado sweeps through Dantan in India, killing 250 people and injuring 3,000 others.

- 1998 – First computer-assisted Bone Segment Navigation, performed at the University of Regensburg, Germany

- 1999 – Kosovo war: NATO began attacks on Yugoslavia without United Nations Security Council (UNSC) approval , marking the first time NATO has attacked a sovereign country.

- 1999 – A lorry carrying margarine and flour catches fire inside the Mont Blanc Tunnel. The resulting inferno kills 38 people.

- 2003 – The Arab League votes 21–1 in favor of a resolution demanding the immediate and unconditional removal of U.S. and British soldiers from Iraq.

- 2008 – Bhutan officially becomes a democracy, with its first ever general election.

- 2015 – Germanwings Flight 9525 crashes in the French Alps in an apparent pilot mass murder-suicide, killing all 150 people on board.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1494 – Georgius Agricola, German mineralogist and scholar

- 1693 – John Harrison, English carpenter and clock-maker, invented the Marine chronometer

- 1733 Joseph Priestley, English theologian, philosopher, chemist, physicist

- 1820 – Fanny Crosby, American poet and composer

- 1874 – Harry Houdini, Hungarian-Jewish American magician and actor

- 1884 – Peter Debye, Dutch-American physicist and chemist, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1897 – Wilhelm Reich, Austrian-American psychotherapist and academic

- 1903 – Adolf Butenandt, German biochemist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1909 – Clyde Barrow, American criminal

- 1911 – Joseph Barbera, American animator, director, and producer, co-founded Hanna-Barbera

- 1921 – Vasily Smyslov, Russian chess player

- 1926 – Dario Fo, Italian playwright, actor, director, and composer, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1927 – Martin Walser, German author and playwright

- 1930 – Steve McQueen, American actor and producer

- 1951 – Tommy Hilfiger, American fashion designer, founded the Tommy Hilfiger Corporation

- 1956 – Steve Ballmer, American businessman

- 1960 – Nena, German singer-songwriter and actress

- 1961 – Yanis Varoufakis, Greek economist and politician, Greek Minister of Finance

- 1973 – Jim Parsons, American actor

- 1974 – Alyson Hannigan, American actress

- 1976 – Peyton Manning, American football player and entrepreneur

- 1990 – Keisha Castle-Hughes, Australian-New Zealand actress

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Quote of the day

Try to be like the turtle – at ease in your own shell.

- Bill Copeland -

Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.

Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Vista Major, Minnesota Dakota, Percyton

Minnesota Dakota wrote:I urge all to check my latest tweet.

Link?

Yukona

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:

- International Day for the Right to the Truth Concerning Gross Human Rights Violations and for the Dignity of Victims

A bit of a long-winded name. Couldn't they have shortened it? Imagine wishing someone a 'Happy International Day for the Right to the Truth Concerning Gross Human Rights Violations and for the Dignity of Victims!'

Nuremgard, Aghrabia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Magnatronia

Minnesota Dakota wrote:I urge all to check my latest tweet.

Lol why not just post it?

Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Thombeland wrote:Lol why not just post it?

You don't just post Tweets

That's the Donald's job

Penguania And Antarctica

https://twitter.com/thesirmida

Here you go.

Aghrabia, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

I've been appointed two roles in government for this region now

I'm officially a politician

Aghrabia, Andromitus, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, Yukona, Percyton

Minnesota Dakota wrote:https://twitter.com/thesirmida

Here you go.

Kinda weird that there's an emoticon there. I don't tend to see official state twitters post that when death is a bit of a serious thing.

Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Kalaron wrote:Kinda weird that there's an emoticon there. I don't tend to see official state twitters post that when death is a bit of a serious thing.

Yea, the emoticon does kinda take away from the post

Kalaron, Penguania And Antarctica

Magnatronia wrote:*future map of the Magnatronian empire

not if Kumania has anything to say about it

Prince George's school was "announced."

Well I went to a primary school called St. Joseph's. Why isn't that news? Oh, aye, because I didn't fall out of a "royal" vagina.

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Aghrabia, Penguania And Antarctica

Orcala wrote:I've been appointed two roles in government for this region now

I'm officially a politician

Welcome to the club lol :p

Penguania And Antarctica

REGIONAL SONG OF THE DAY

Day 27: Pink Floyd - "Another Brick in the Wall Pt.2" (link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrxX9TBj2zY)

Thank you for reading, papa bless

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Seeing no new flags coming in, the voting process begins a few hours earlier. Please go vote for a flag or to keep the current one.

Penguania And Antarctica, Orcala

Nuremgard wrote:Prince George's school was "announced."

Well I went to a primary school called St. Joseph's. Why isn't that news? Oh, aye, because I didn't fall out of a "royal" vagina.

In Prince George's defense, I worry this may be a pattern where every bit of news about him is reported and widely covered in the media. George is only a kid, and he didn't ask to be put in the public spotlight, but because of the family he was born into, almost everything about him will be considered newsworthy. He'll have no privacy, and he won't have the chance to learn and make mistakes out of the public eye. I feel sorry for George.

Aghrabia

Jaslandia wrote:In Prince George's defense, I worry this may be a pattern where every bit of news about him is reported and widely covered in the media. George is only a kid, and he didn't ask to be put in the public spotlight, but because of the family he was born into, almost everything about him will be considered newsworthy. He'll have no privacy, and he won't have the chance to learn and make mistakes out of the public eye. I feel sorry for George.

No need to defend him. I wasn't accusing him of anything or berating him. Of course every detail of his life will be reported by the media. He's royal. That's just how it is. I wouldn't feel too sorry for him, Jas. He's going to live a life of unimaginable wealth and privilege. I'm sure that'll make up for a bit of annoyance with the paparazzi.

Jaslandia, Aghrabia

Oelesa wrote:Seeing no new flags coming in, the voting process begins a few hours earlier. Please go vote for a flag or to keep the current one.

And I was still going to make one... Oh well, I'll probably just vote to keep the current one.

Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:No need to defend him. I wasn't accusing him of anything or berating him. Of course every detail of his life will be reported by the media. He's royal. That's just how it is. I wouldn't feel too sorry for him, Jas. He's going to live a life of unimaginable wealth and privilege. I'm sure that'll make up for a bit of annoyance with the paparazzi.

I wouldn't consider constant media attention to be "a bit of annoyance", but maybe that's just me.

Jaslandia wrote:I wouldn't consider constant media attention to be "a bit of annoyance", but maybe that's just me.

I'd say it was a price worth paying.

When the flag proposals are so bad you're in favour of keeping the one you've spent the last several months complaining about endlessly.

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Baxten, Aghrabia, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Aghrabia wrote:And I was still going to make one... Oh well, I'll probably just vote to keep the current one.

Same, none of the flags at vote are particularly appeasing, from relish-mustard-ketchup to the "Big C" -yeah, totally no super rude words that start with C, right?- to .Jpeg (but really though, it's nice to see a new member get involved so good on you) the best really is the one we already have.

At least it's visually appeasing >.>

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Penguania And Antarctica

Kalaron wrote:Same, none of the flags at vote are particularly appeasing, from relish-mustard-ketchup to the "Big C" -yeah, totally no super rude words that start with C, right?- to .Jpeg (but really though, it's nice to see a new member get involved so good on you) the best really is the one we already have.

At least it's visually appeasing >.>

Seriously though

we've got banana republic, the 'I don't like people who are into vexillology' and the 'I tried really hard in mspaint'

Like come on. The current flag is bad, it doesn't fit the theme of the region, it's ugly, it doesn't mean anything, the colour scheme doesn't match. Seriously, I could go on for forever about it, but the proposed ones are far far worse.

Like call it quits and just use the fvcking tea flag already.

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica

Unfallious wrote:Seriously though

we've got banana republic, the 'I don't like people who are into vexillology' and the 'I tried really hard in mspaint'

Like come on. The current flag is bad, it doesn't fit the theme of the region, it's ugly, it doesn't mean anything, the colour scheme doesn't match. Seriously, I could go on for forever about it, but the proposed ones are far far worse.

Like call it quits and just use the fvcking tea flag already.

While I personally dislike all three, I'm willing to state that the last at least shows effort, more than I expect from most people.

I personally rather like the current flag -I admit, I may be biased as it was made by Tim- since it carries a geometric pattern and has some nice dark colours. Furthermore, I'm opposed to the use of the Teaflag for the same reasons as before, it's excellent for a chat-region, but we simply aren't one.

Jaslandia, Aghrabia

Kalaron wrote:it's excellent for a chat-region

I wish you people would give- n and admit that we pretty much are and always have been. The government aspect of this region is not the main aspect, the community is and tea time is an integral part of that and the only element of this region to have persisted since the beginning. Tea time is the unifying factor for this community and the tea flag holds more legitimacy than any other flag we've ever had. I'll defend this point relentlessly because this stupid notion of 'oh it's not professional to have a teapot' is actually ridiculous when we examine the wider context of the fact that we're all pretending to run a government on an online nation simulator.

Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Penguania And Antarctica

Kalaron wrote:While I personally dislike all three, I'm willing to state that the last at least shows effort, more than I expect from most people.

I personally rather like the current flag -I admit, I may be biased as it was made by Tim- since it carries a geometric pattern and has some nice dark colours. Furthermore, I'm opposed to the use of the Teaflag for the same reasons as before, it's excellent for a chat-region, but we simply aren't one.

I agree with Kal on why the tea flag isn't the best. At the same time, I still think it's our best and nicest-looking option (including both our current flag and the flags that are up for vote). It's also a nice tribute to CFN history and traditions.

Aghrabia, Penguania And Antarctica

I wonder who made this Tea Flag everyone is talking about ?

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:I wonder who made this Tea Flag everyone is talking about ?

I want to say Unf, but I'm not 100% sure.

Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Jaslandia wrote:I want to say Unf, but I'm not 100% sure.

No, I can 100% assure you it wasn't Unf.

Jaslandia, Yukona

Jaslandia wrote:I want to say Unf, but I'm not 100% sure.

it was Peng

Jaslandia, Yukona

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:No, I can 100% assure you it wasn't Unf.

Unfallious wrote:it was Peng

Oh. Sorry, Peng.

Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:Oh. Sorry, Peng.

No problem. No reason to be sorry. :)

Jaslandia, Yukona

For Christ sake people. How much time do you all need to make a flag. Whats the point in a flag contest if we just keep the dis favorable current flag?

I'll extend the flag contest for another day ending at midnight tomorrow.

Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Unfallious wrote:I wish you people would give- n and admit that we pretty much are and always have been. The government aspect of this region is not the main aspect, the community is and tea time is an integral part of that and the only element of this region to have persisted since the beginning. Tea time is the unifying factor for this community and the tea flag holds more legitimacy than any other flag we've ever had. I'll defend this point relentlessly because this stupid notion of 'oh it's not professional to have a teapot' is actually ridiculous when we examine the wider context of the fact that we're all pretending to run a government on an online nation simulator.

Respectfully, while the Government simulation isn't the main force of the Region, it is clearly just as important as the chat aspect, or need I remind you of how twice we've evacuated our Regions due to a Tyrant?

Simply put if the simulation aspect did not at least bear some weight, we would still be in the CFN unless Silver well and truly CTE'd for an extended length of time.

I never mentioned that it was unprofessional, merely that it isn't a proper fit for the region in my eyes since the flag stresses a custom that we do neither reliably nor excessively. I would state that the number of political debates and arguments outnumber the Tea-Times if anything.

As for Tea-Time being unifying factor of our region...we'll simply have to agree to disagree. I don't feel that blowback on Ru came about due to Merc's responses to the occasional tea-time, but from his rights as a citizen...something inherently related to government.

Oelesa wrote:For Christ sake people. How much time do you all need to make a flag. Whats the point in a flag contest if we just keep the dis favorable current flag?

I'll extend the flag contest for another day ending at midnight tomorrow.

Thanks for your mercy, my lord.

Ludania, Jaslandia, Aghrabia

Kalaron wrote:

Ah, drat.

I meant the unifying force.

Kalaron wrote:Respectfully, while the Government simulation isn't the main force of the Region, it is clearly just as important as the chat aspect, or need I remind you of how twice we've evacuated our Regions due to a Tyrant?

Simply put if the simulation aspect did not at least bear some weight, we would still be in the CFN unless Silver well and truly CTE'd for an extended length of time.

I never mentioned that it was unprofessional, merely that it isn't a proper fit for the region in my eyes since the flag stresses a custom that we do neither reliably nor excessively. I would state that the number of political debates and arguments outnumber the Tea-Times if anything.

As for Tea-Time being unifying factor of our region...we'll simply have to agree to disagree. I don't feel that blowback on Ru came about due to Merc's responses to the occasional tea-time, but from his rights as a citizen...something inherently related to government.

Yes it holds weight, but it's coincidental that the most active participators in the region are also simultaneously active in government so when that avenue is shut off obviously they're going to leave and as they're the vocal minority they're going to convince everyone to leave with them. The vast majority of people in CFN were content to stay there until they were told to leave because they simply didn't care about government and most of them still don't. Look at the legislature, the focal point of governance. When was the last bill? Oh that's right, 25 days ago.

The fact of the matter is, even if we don't do it reliably (why would we want to do it excessively?) we still do it and it's still a tradition, one of the only we have. It makes sense to put that on the flag, more so than any other designs that have come up. If you want to go ahead and draft a flag based around debate and discussion that doesn't come off as generic then go right ahead. I'm attached to the tea flag because it's the best, not because I'm sentimental for it. I didn't design it, and I much prefer the communist version of it.

As for your last point, I've got no idea what you're talking about, to be honest. The blowback on Ruclax wasn't caused by tea time ergo we shouldn't have the tea flag?

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Unfallious wrote:Yes it holds weight, but it's coincidental that the most active participators in the region are also simultaneously active in government so when that avenue is shut off obviously they're going to leave and as they're the vocal minority they're going to convince everyone to leave with them. The vast majority of people in CFN were content to stay there until they were told to leave because they simply didn't care about government and most of them still don't. Look at the legislature, the focal point of governance. When was the last bill? Oh that's right, 25 days ago.

The fact of the matter is, even if we don't do it reliably (why would we want to do it excessively?) we still do it and it's still a tradition, one of the only we have. It makes sense to put that on the flag, more so than any other designs that have come up. If you want to go ahead and draft a flag based around debate and discussion that doesn't come off as generic then go right ahead. I'm attached to the tea flag because it's the best, not because I'm sentimental for it. I didn't design it, and I much prefer the communist version of it.

As for your last point, I've got no idea what you're talking about, to be honest. The blowback on Ruclax wasn't caused by tea time ergo we shouldn't have the tea flag?

I disagree with you on the importance of government and of Tea-Time, hence I am listed occurrences wherein Tea-Time was not the unifying force you suggested in your original post.

Ruclax attempted to massively overstep his bounds as founder, ejecting Merc and making it clear that he would be dissolving the primary government of Montaris. The aftermath was that people who weren't active politically -Tserra, Jaslandia and Lavan Tiri are all names that come to mind- listed their grievance and left, clearly not the result of a small subsection being outraged, but rather that most were moved to an uproar.

I don't believe that TT had a hand in that response in any way non-tangentially.

Furthermore, my point on debate was meant to point out that, though Tea-Time is perhaps an important part of our regional culture -though I personally don't feel the same as you- it is no more prevalent or iconic than those debates and I would sooner align our region on the political side due to their rate of occurrence.

I would argue that legitimately all comments pertaining to which flag is the best is highly if not totally subjective due to the fact that it cannot be proven with fact -Vexology is a lottle silly- and is based on opinion, whether you drew it or not is immaterial to that.

Again, I am not stating that we never do TT, or that it isn't important. I merely prefer a flag that isn't in reference to a very occasional/somewhat rare tradition, has a pleasant look to it and is mildly symbolic to our region.

Lavan Tiri

Kalaron wrote:I disagree with you on the importance of government and of Tea-Time, hence I am listed occurrences wherein Tea-Time was not the unifying force you suggested in your original post.

Ruclax attempted to massively overstep his bounds as founder, ejecting Merc and making it clear that he would be dissolving the primary government of Montaris. The aftermath was that people who weren't active politically -Tserra, Jaslandia and Lavan Tiri are all names that come to mind- listed their grievance and left, clearly not the result of a small subsection being outraged, but rather that most were moved to an uproar.

I don't believe that TT had a hand in that response in any way non-tangentially.

Furthermore, my point on debate was meant to point out that, though Tea-Time is perhaps an important part of our regional culture -though I personally don't feel the same as you- it is no more prevalent or iconic than those debates and I would sooner align our region on the political side due to their rate of occurrence.

I would argue that legitimately all comments pertaining to which flag is the best is highly if not totally subjective due to the fact that it cannot be proven with fact -Vexology is a lottle silly- and is based on opinion, whether you drew it or not is immaterial to that.

Again, I am not stating that we never do TT, or that it isn't important. I merely prefer a flag that isn't in reference to a very occasional/somewhat rare tradition, has a pleasant look to it and is mildly symbolic to our region.

Then design one, because right now the tea flag is the closest we've got to the requirements you listed.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Aghrabia, Penguania And Antarctica

Unfallious wrote:Then design one, because right now the tea flag is the closest we've got to the requirements you listed.

I am neither a designer, nor do I believe the argument of "If you think X, then do it better" is anymore applicable here than in a YT or NSG comment.

This started because I voiced dissent on the idea that the Tea-flag was truly the best flag to represent the Region, and I respectfully maintain my opinion without the need to submit a flag, as my criticism remains valid regardless.

If the others choose to embrace the Tea-flag, then I will accept their choice.

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Oelesa wrote:For Christ sake people. How much time do you all need to make a flag. Whats the point in a flag contest if we just keep the dis favorable current flag?

I'll extend the flag contest for another day ending at midnight tomorrow.

Flag contest got pushed back? lolrip

Maybe it's because once they saw my flag they just said oh well :^)

Aghrabia, Penguania And Antarctica

butterflies > teapots

vote for ORCALA'S FLAG

Aghrabia, Penguania And Antarctica

Hello hello.

If you recall, I was ejected from this region without a trial by Vista Major. However, every nation in this region is automatically a resident. Residents have legal protection and cannot be ejected without a trial. Therefore, my ejection was illegal. So, I'm back, and I encourage the MoJ to commerce an action against Vista for breaking the law.

Tecmonaenov wrote:Hello hello.

If you recall, I was ejected from this region without a trial by Vista Major. However, every nation in this region is automatically a resident. Residents have legal protection and cannot be ejected without a trial. Therefore, my ejection was illegal. So, I'm back, and I encourage the MoJ to commerce an action against Vista for breaking the law.

Oh, right. You need to be a citizen for that. Otherwise you can be ejected for just about any sensical reason.

Yukona

Tecmonaenov wrote:Hello hello.

If you recall, I was ejected from this region without a trial by Vista Major. However, every nation in this region is automatically a resident. Residents have legal protection and cannot be ejected without a trial. Therefore, my ejection was illegal. So, I'm back, and I encourage the MoJ to commerce an action against Vista for breaking the law.

Vote for my flag in the flag contest and I'll be your attorney, free of charge :^)

flaggot prostitution ftw

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:Oh, right. You need to be a citizen for that. Otherwise you can be ejected for just about any sensical reason.

Um... no. The laws state

1. Everyone is automatically a resident

2. Residents get legal protection

I was here. I was a resident. I should have had a trial.

Orcala wrote:Vote for my flag in the flag contest and I'll be your attorney, free of charge :^)

flaggot prostitution ftw

Vote whore...

Aghrabia, Orcala

Tecmonaenov wrote:Hello hello.

If you recall, I was ejected from this region without a trial by Vista Major. However, every nation in this region is automatically a resident. Residents have legal protection and cannot be ejected without a trial. Therefore, my ejection was illegal. So, I'm back, and I encourage the MoJ to commerce an action against Vista for breaking the law.

That is a pretty big accusation you our making there.

Yukona

Solla Ultima wrote:That is a pretty big accusation you our making there.

Um... no. Its just a statement of the law and facts.

Tecmonaenov wrote:Hello hello.

If you recall, I was ejected from this region without a trial by Vista Major. However, every nation in this region is automatically a resident. Residents have legal protection and cannot be ejected without a trial. Therefore, my ejection was illegal. So, I'm back, and I encourage the MoJ to commerce an action against Vista for breaking the law.

You can request a trial in the CFN offsite forums, but personally, I don't think your chances of winning are that great.

Tecmonaenov wrote:Um... no. Its just a statement of the law and facts.

Even then why would you want to come back? Most people will support him rather than you in this situation making a trial a waste of time.

Aghrabia, Oelesa

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