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Tserra wrote:Just posting this here, I still need you to get with me, and confirm the vote count.

Sorry, my fault. I've been relatively inactive recently due to the hell that is real life. I'll do that momentarily.

Vista Major

Bearlong wrote:Sorry, my fault. I've been relatively inactive recently due to the hell that is real life. I'll do that momentarily.

Not a problem. :D

Vista Major

Kalaron wrote:Base him on Tim, he'll be the best < 3

...they'd still have the royal coffers though, right?

Eh. Maybe if Eugenie has a trust fund off daddy. But as far as I know, she does not have the same access to the public funds available to the more major royals. This has been a point of contention for her father who is demanding that she be given a proper royal role, public money and apartments in Kensington Palace just like her cousin and his wife.

I am no royalist but even I can see the folly in this. Her cousin and his wife (Prince William and Kate Middleton) are the future king and queen. So they will naturally have more access to royal perks as it were. Andrew wanting all that for Eugenie is farcical.

Besides, she goes on several holidays a year and has no real job. I don't think she's suffering too much.

Nuremgard wrote:Eh. Maybe if Eugenie has a trust fund off daddy. But as far as I know, she does not have the same access to the public funds available to the more major royals. This has been a point of contention for her father who is demanding that she be given a proper royal role, public money and apartments in Kensington Palace just like her cousin and his wife.

I am no royalist but even I can see the folly in this. Her cousin and his wife (Prince William and Kate Middleton) are the future king and queen. So they will naturally have more access to royal perks as it were. Andrew wanting all that for Eugenie is farcical.

Besides, she goes on several holidays a year and has no real job. I don't think she's suffering too much.

No royal deserves coffers to me :P

Nuremgard

Kalaron wrote:No royal deserves coffers to me :P

Damn right. Down with the monarchy!

Tserra wrote:Not a problem. :D

I've sent you the confirmation. I'm only saying this publicly to build tension.

Vista Major

Bearlong wrote:I've sent you the confirmation. I'm only saying this publicly to build tension.

>build tension

Vista has over twice the amount of votes that Lat has.

What tension can there be?

Nuremgard wrote:Damn right. Down with the monarchy!

Nuremgard wrote:the Imperial Family are moving to the spring palace next month

Magnatronia

Writing up the end of the election Telegram now.

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=pirate_kingdoms/detail=factbook/id=771274

Hoping to make this like the following pages on political structures in various nations:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_North_Korea

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Djibouti

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Eritrea

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Somalia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_the_United_States

Nuremgard wrote:Not mine!

But of course :P

Don't worry, you can wait it out in the super-sized MBT-90 to survive the anti-monarchy.

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:If new legislature passes changing the methods I will comply and follow those new rules.

Funny you should say...

Congratulations to all our new elected officials!

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Humpheria Major

Woo! Super excited, y'all don't even know!

I'm gonna have an inaugural speech out tonight or tomorrow.

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Humpheria Major

Vista Major wrote:Woo! Super excited, y'all don't even know!

I'm gonna have an inaugural speech out tonight or tomorrow.

Go Vista! Rooting for us.

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Humpheria Major

Oelesa wrote:Go Vista! Rooting for us.

#VOelesta is gonna be great ;)

Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Humpheria Major

On behalf of the State of Percyton, congrats to all the winners of the regional election! Percyton is always excited to see the democratic process in action, and we look forward to the upcoming administration!

Jaslandia, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

Vista Major wrote:Woo! Super excited, y'all don't even know!

I'm gonna have an inaugural speech out tonight or tomorrow.

I'm getting the vibe that we made a major mistake.

Vista Major, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Humpheria Major

Bearlong wrote:I'm getting the vibe that we made a major mistake.

Only time will tell, dear child

Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Humpheria Major

That moment when you realise that you're up for election soon as well.

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Humpheria Major

Bearlong wrote:That moment when you realise that you're up for election soon as well.

Well, unless the House decides to sack you, you remain as Speaker

But, I, personally, may call a motion for Speaker elections, somehow. I'll be reading the law lots over the next few days

Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Humpheria Major

Vista Major wrote:Well, unless the House decides to sack you, you remain as Speaker

But, I, personally, may call a motion for Speaker elections, somehow. I'll be reading the law lots over the next few days

1. "sack" - explain this sudden change to UK English? We demand consistency!

2. Technically, the only way to trigger an election for the Speakership is to declare no confidence in the current Speaker, which automatically triggers an election. Otherwise, again technically, you're holding an election for an already filled post.

Vista Major, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica

Huh, I won!

Bearlong wrote:I'm getting the vibe that we made a major mistake.

*Mr. Burns Voice* Eeeeeeexcccccccellenttt

Vista Major, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica

Bearlong wrote:I'm getting the vibe that we made a major mistake.

It was that, or Lat really.

I choose that.

Vista Major, Oelesa, Yukona

Vista Major wrote:#VOelesta is gonna be great ;)

I can't wait to see how this new administration performs! Congratulations!!

Vista Major, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Humpheria Major

Einsiev wrote:

I can't wait to see how this new administration performs! Congratulations!!

Thanks!

Einsiev, Penguania And Antarctica

I'm so happy!!!

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Tserra, The United Providences Of Perland

Why do we not have a Minister of Defense?

Vista Major

Minnesota Dakota wrote:Why do we not have a Minister of Defense?

Needless position, and we got rid of it because of that.

Vista Major, Yukona

Kalaron wrote:Needless position, and we got rid of it because of that.

Ok, Thanks for the clarification.

Vista Major, Kalaron, Penguania And Antarctica

Welp, it's been a gud term. Good luck Peng

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Tserra, Humpheria Major

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:Welp, it's been a gud term. Good luck Peng

I remember when I served as MoIA in the original CFN, a few years ago now.

Of course, I held to the WA Rule kinda tightly with very few exceptions to note. Once of course I actually finally was told some of the procedure for it. There was that one time where I let non-WA guys in. Oh that was bad. Bad bad time.

Vista Major, Kalaron, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

Thanks for your trust in me. I hope that I don't disappoint you all.

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:Welp, it's been a gud term. Good luck Peng

It seems I need this luck. Thank you. :)

Jaslandia, Vista Major, The United Providences Of Perland, Humpheria Major

It's so nice to see the WFE with no President of the CoFN - Latrovia.

Vista Major, Humpheria Major

Yukona wrote:It's so nice to see the WFE with no President of the CoFN - Latrovia.

Not gonna lie, I had a shiver of delight when I made Vista the President on Discord.

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Humpheria Major, Yukona

Kalaron wrote:Not gonna lie, I had a shiver of delight when I made Vista the President on Discord.

I still have nightmares of Vis' last term. However, there are things such as second chances, so I give him my trust.

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Humpheria Major

Baxten wrote:I still have nightmares of Vis' last term. However, there are things such as second chances, so I give him my trust.

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Nah but really, Vis'll do fine.

Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

Baxten wrote:I still have nightmares of Vis' last term. However, there are things such as second chances, so I give him my trust.

It couldn't have been that bad

Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Humpheria Major

Yukona wrote:It's so nice to see the WFE with no President of the CoFN - Latrovia.

Ouch.

Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:Ouch.

I'm free to voice my opinion. Lat had no qualms besmirching people himself, why should I?

Vista Major, Kalaron, The United Providences Of Perland, Humpheria Major

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:I have no Valentine :(

Peng you are retroactively my Valentine. Happy 1/2 off Candy Day, babe!

Merlinton, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Congratulations to our newly elected government! I am confident in our future success!

Although I never agreed with former President Latrovia, I thank him and his administration for serving in that capacity.

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Okay, holy cr@p, I keep almost pressing the "Suppress" option instead of the "Quote" option, so if you find yourself being suppressed for like, a millisecond it's not on purpose :P

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Thanks for your trust in me. I hope that I don't disappoint you all.It seems I need this luck. Thank you. :)

Oh, and Peng, I'm still gonna count myself as a mentor if that's alright with everybody, so if you one just contact me

Penguania And Antarctica

Andromitus wrote:Okay, holy cr@p, I keep almost pressing the "Suppress" option instead of the "Quote" option, so if you find yourself being suppressed for like, a millisecond it's not on purpose :P

Oh, and Peng, I'm still gonna count myself as a mentor if that's alright with everybody, so if you one just contact me

It comes with the job, you'll get used to it.

Merlinton, The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica

Not to toot my own horn but at least in my re-election defeat I still had over ten votes. #IsThatAWin #NeverForget

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Minnesota Dakota, Yukona

Humpheria Major wrote:Not to toot my own horn but at least in my re-election defeat I still had over ten votes. #IsThatAWin #NeverForget

I failed miserably with 0 votes, but i tried, so that's all that matters, though i might try for a smaller role next election. #FailWithASmile

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Humpheria Major

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:I failed miserably with 0 votes, but i tried, so that's all that matters, though i might try for a smaller role next election. #FailWithASmile

We've all been there, buddy. Keep your head up and stay involved!

Jaslandia, Minnesota Dakota, The Cross And Davids Star

Congratulations to the new President and his new administration! :)

Merlinton, Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Humpheria Major

Latrovia wrote:Congratulations to the new President and his new administration! :)

Hey so could we remove Admin powers from Humph on the forum, since it's been like two plus months since he was the President?

Penguania And Antarctica

Kalaron wrote:Hey so could we remove Admin powers from Humph on the forum, since it's been like two plus months since he was the President?

Please. I don't need this kind of unyielding POWER!

Merlinton, The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica

Humpheria Major wrote:Peng you are retroactively my Valentine. Happy 1/2 off Candy Day, babe!

I have an amazing valentine and I'm still celebrating today more than yesterday. Gotta love the discount chocolate!

Jaslandia, Latrovia, Penguania And Antarctica, Magnatronia

Merlinton wrote:I have an amazing valentine and I'm still celebrating today more than yesterday. Gotta love the discount chocolate!

Is the 15th of Feb considered the day of single people?

Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica

Hello people. Wish you all a nice day.

[spoiler=Today is February 15 and today are:]

Today is February 15 and today are:

- Angelman Syndrome Day

- Annoy Squidward Day (Sponge Bob Square Pants community)

- Candlemas (Eastern Orthodox Church)

- Day of Ashakalia (Kosovo)

- International Angelman Day

- International Childhood Cancer Awareness Day

- International Duties Memorial Day (Russia)

- John Frum Day (Vanuatu)

- Liberation Day (Afghanistan)

- Lupercalia

- National Flag of Canada Day (Canada)

- National Gumdrop Day (United States)

- National Hippo Day (United States)

- Parinirvana Day (Mahayana Buddhism)

- Random Acts of Kindness Day

- Remember the Maine Day

- Statehood Day (Serbia)

- Susan B. Anthony Day (Florida, United States)

- The ENIAC Day (Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US)

- Total Defence Day (Singapore)

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 590 – Khosrau II is crowned king of Persia.

- 706 – Byzantine emperor Justinian II has his predecessors Leontios and Tiberios III publicly executed in the Hippodrome of Constantinople.

- 1113 – Pope Paschal II issues a bill sanctioning the establishment of the Order of Hospitallers.

- 1214 – During the Anglo-French War (1213–1214), an English invasion force lands at La Rochelle in France.

- 1493 – While on board the Niña, Christopher Columbus writes an open letter (widely distributed upon his return to Portugal) describing his discoveries and the unexpected items he came across in the New World.

- 1637 – Ferdinand III becomes Holy Roman Emperor.

- 1690 – Constantin Cantemir, Prince of Moldavia, and the Holy Roman Empire sign a secret treaty in Sibiu, stipulating that Moldavia would support the actions led by the House of Habsburg against the Ottoman Empire.

- 1764 – The city of St. Louis is established in Spanish Louisiana (now in Missouri, USA).

- 1798 – The Roman Republic is proclaimed after Louis-Alexandre Berthier, a general of Napoleon, had invaded the city of Rome five days earlier.

- 1804 – The Serbian Revolution begins.

- 1835 – The first constitutional law in modern Serbia is adopted.

- 1862 – American Civil War: General Ulysses S. Grant attacks Fort Donelson, Tennessee.

- 1870 – Stevens Institute of Technology is founded in New Jersey, USA and offers the first Bachelor of Engineering degree in Mechanical Engineering.

- 1879 – Women's rights: US President Rutherford B. Hayes signs a bill allowing female attorneys to argue cases before the Supreme Court of the United States.

- 1891 – Allmänna Idrottsklubben (AIK) (Swedish Sports Club) is founded.

- 1898 – The battleship USS Maine explodes and sinks in Havana harbor in Cuba, killing 274. This event leads the United States to declare war on Spain.

- 1901 – The association football club Alianza Lima is founded in Lima, Peru, under the name Sport Alianza.

- 1909 – The Flores Theater fire in Acapulco, Mexico kills 250.

- 1921 – Kingdom of Romania establishes its legation in Helsinki.

- 1923 – Greece becomes the last European country to adopt the Gregorian calendar.

- 1925 – The 1925 serum run to Nome: The second delivery of serum arrives in Nome, Alaska.

- 1933 – In Miami, Giuseppe Zangara attempts to assassinate US President-elect Franklin D. Roosevelt, but instead shoots Chicago mayor Anton J. Cermak, who dies of his wounds on March 6, 1933.

- 1942 – World War II: Fall of Singapore. Following an assault by Japanese forces, the British General Arthur Percival surrenders. About 80,000 Indian, United Kingdom and Australian soldiers become prisoners of war, the largest surrender of British-led military personnel in history.

- 1944 – World War II: The assault on Monte Cassino, Italy begins.

- 1944 – World War II: The Narva Offensive begins.

- 1945 – World War II: Third day of bombing in Dresden.

- 1946 – ENIAC, the first electronic general-purpose computer, is formally dedicated at the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia.

- 1949 – Gerald Lankester Harding and Roland de Vaux begin excavations at Cave 1 of the Qumran Caves, where they will eventually discover the first seven Dead Sea Scrolls.

- 1952 – King George VI of the United Kingdom is buried in St George's Chapel, Windsor Castle.

- 1953 – Parliamentary elections held in Liechtenstein.

- 1954 – Canada and the United States agree to construct the Distant Early Warning Line, a system of radar stations in the far northern Arctic regions of Canada and Alaska.

- 1961 – Sabena Flight 548 crashes in Belgium, killing 73, including the entire United States figure skating team along with several of their coaches and family members.

- 1965 – A new red-and-white maple leaf design is adopted as the flag of Canada, replacing the old Canadian Red Ensign banner.

- 1971 – The decimalisation of British coinage is completed on Decimal Day.

- 1972 – Sound recordings are granted U.S. federal copyright protection for the first time.

- 1972 – José María Velasco Ibarra, serving as President of Ecuador for the fifth time, is overthrown by the military for the fourth time.

- 1982 – The drilling rig Ocean Ranger sinks during a storm off the coast of Newfoundland, killing 84 workers.

- 1989 – Soviet war in Afghanistan: The Soviet Union officially announces that all of its troops have left Afghanistan.

- 1991 – The Visegrád Agreement, establishing cooperation to move toward free-market systems, is signed by the leaders of Czechoslovakia, Hungary and Poland.

- 1992 – Serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer was sentenced in Milwaukee to life in prison.

- 1996 – At the Xichang Satellite Launch Center in China, a Long March 3 rocket, carrying an Intelsat 708, crashes into a rural village after liftoff, killing many people.

- 2001 – The first draft of the complete human genome is published in Nature.

- 2003 – Protests against the Iraq war take place in over 600 cities worldwide. It is estimated that between eight million to 30 million people participate, making this the largest peace demonstration in history.

- 2012 – 360 people die in a fire at a Honduran prison in the city of Comayagua.

- 2013 – A meteor explodes over Russia, injuring 1,500 people as a shock wave blows out windows and rocks buildings. This happens unexpectedly only hours before the expected closest ever approach of the larger and unrelated asteroid 2012 DA14.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1564 – Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer, physicist, and mathematician

- 1710 – Louis XV of France

- 1748 – Jeremy Bentham, English jurist and philosopher

- 1797 – Henry E. Steinway, German-American businessman, founded Steinway & Sons

- 1812 – Charles Lewis Tiffany, American businessman, founded Tiffany & Co.

- 1820 – Susan B. Anthony, American suffragist and activist

- 1845 – Elihu Root, American lawyer and politician, 38th United States Secretary of State, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1861 – Charles Édouard Guillaume, Swiss-French physicist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1873 – Hans von Euler-Chelpin, German-Swiss biochemist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1874 – Ernest Shackleton, Anglo-Irish captain and explorer

- 1905 – Harold Arlen, Jewish-American composer

- 1910 – Irena Sendler, Polish nurse and humanitarian, Righteous Gentile

- 1923 – Yelena Bonner, Soviet-Russian activist

- 1929 – Graham Hill, English race car driver and businessman

- 1934 – Niklaus Wirth, Swiss computer scientist, created the Pascal programming language

- 1954 – Matt Groening, American animator, producer, and screenwriter

- 1974 – Mr Lordi, Finnish singer-songwriter

[/spoiler]

Quote of the day

The Constitution is the guide which I never will abandon.

- George Washington -

Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.

Jaslandia, Minnesota Dakota

Latrovia wrote:Is the 15th of Feb considered the day of single people?

That's a bit difficult. Yesterday was also Single Awareness Day. But some people celebrate it the day before or after Valentine's Day. :)

For further informations about holidays and observances feel free to ask at any time.

-Peng

Holiday Herald

Jaslandia, Minnesota Dakota

Merlinton wrote:I have an amazing valentine and I'm still celebrating today more than yesterday. Gotta love the discount chocolate!

You just reminded me.

To the CHOCOLATE STORE!!!

Merlinton, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Solla Ultima

Yo!

Louisianne is back!

Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Regarding the thing about WA.

We've always required WA and we've always required continuous WA on a main or a puppet. This is not new policy nor is it abhorrent to suggest it. If you do not have WA on your main or your puppet you should lose citizenship 100% of the time regardless of who you are.

Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Freewire

Unfallious wrote:Regarding the thing about WA.

We've always required WA and we've always required continuous WA on a main or a puppet. This is not new policy nor is it abhorrent to suggest it. If you do not have WA on your main or your puppet you should lose citizenship 100% of the time regardless of who you are.

Where exactly is this an issue?

Unfallious wrote:Regarding the thing about WA.

We've always required WA and we've always required continuous WA on a main or a puppet. This is not new policy nor is it abhorrent to suggest it. If you do not have WA on your main or your puppet you should lose citizenship 100% of the time regardless of who you are.

I agree we should require WA, but I think we can have some leeway. If a person continuously refuses to get WA and gives no valid excuse, then I agree, they should lose citizenship.

Oelesa

Unfallious wrote:Regarding the thing about WA.

We've always required WA and we've always required continuous WA on a main or a puppet. This is not new policy nor is it abhorrent to suggest it. If you do not have WA on your main or your puppet you should lose citizenship 100% of the time regardless of who you are.

That's actually incorrect. It may have been a law in the CFN but we don't have any citizenship law in CoFN other than it will be regulated by the MoI and all of our MoIs for this region have only required in applying for citizenship.

Humpheria Major wrote:That's actually incorrect. It may have been a law in the CFN but we don't have any citizenship law in CoFN other than it will be regulated by the MoI and all of our MoIs for this region have only required in applying for citizenship.

By the term 'we have always' I obviously meant the collective regional history. There has never exactly been a citizenship law, its always been regulated by the MoI. The fact is, not requiring WA makes the whole citizenship system moot.

Freewire wrote:Where exactly is this an issue?

I resign from the WA

My citizenship remains

I make a puppet with WA

I come into the region and apply for citizenship

Congratulations I now have 2 votes.

Repeat over the course of 6 months and you could probably start having noticeable influences on election results.

If we do not stipulate WA membership then we might as well abolish the citizenship system entirely, because it's not doing sh!t.

Oelesa, Freewire

Unfallious wrote:By the term 'we have always' I obviously meant the collective regional history. There has never exactly been a citizenship law, its always been regulated by the MoI. The fact is, not requiring WA makes the whole citizenship system moot.

If that's what you meant you are welcome to write a law reforming the system, otherwise you have to take it up with Peng.

Humpheria Major wrote:If that's what you meant you are welcome to write a law reforming the system, otherwise you have to take it up with Peng.

I don't think reform is necessary in this case just like I don't think you need legislation to tell you how to reply to telegrams in your ministerial capacity; because it's assumed that anyone with a modicum of understanding of how NS works will require WA for citizenship. Thankfully I believe Peng has that sense.

Although, it would have been nice if the constitution had been clear on that. To be honest, the constitution not being clear is the cause of a lot of issues nowadays.

Oelesa, Yukona

Unfallious wrote:I don't think reform is necessary in this case just like I don't think you need legislation to tell you how to reply to telegrams in your ministerial capacity; because it's assumed that anyone with a modicum of understanding of how NS works will require WA for citizenship. Thankfully I believe Peng has that sense.

Although, it would have been nice if the constitution had been clear on that. To be honest, the constitution not being clear is the cause of a lot of issues nowadays.

You shouldn't believe in me.

Unfallious wrote:By the term 'we have always' I obviously meant the collective regional history. There has never exactly been a citizenship law, its always been regulated by the MoI. The fact is, not requiring WA makes the whole citizenship system moot.

I resign from the WA

My citizenship remains

I make a puppet with WA

I come into the region and apply for citizenship

Congratulations I now have 2 votes.

Repeat over the course of 6 months and you could probably start having noticeable influences on election results.

If we do not stipulate WA membership then we might as well abolish the citizenship system entirely, because it's not doing sh!t.

What is the purpose of citizenship anyway? I feel that we are leaving out members who do not become citizens and make elections have little actual say over the government because it is the same set of candidates. Why not instead consider citizenship based on age of the NS account or activity in the region because I do not know who would make puppets and be able to keep them active enough to vote.

United Kingdoms

Flynnvakia wrote:What is the purpose of citizenship anyway? I feel that we are leaving out members who do not become citizens and make elections have little actual say over the government because it is the same set of candidates. Why not instead consider citizenship based on age of the NS account or activity in the region because I do not know who would make puppets and be able to keep them active enough to vote.

u clearly arent familar w/ the culture here lol

Oelesa, The United Providences Of Perland

Post self-deleted by Nova-Atlantia.

United Kingdoms wrote:u clearly arent familar w/ the culture here lol

He says to the person who's been in the community since practically its inception

Minnesota Dakota

United Kingdoms wrote:u clearly arent familar w/ the culture here lol

I have been with the community for more than are year mate. I would also like to point out that I disputed your original banjection.

Kalaron, Yukona

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:You shouldn't believe in me.

Nonsense! You shouldn't be so hard on yourself, Peng!

Flynnvakia wrote:What is the purpose of citizenship anyway? I feel that we are leaving out members who do not become citizens and make elections have little actual say over the government because it is the same set of candidates. Why not instead consider citizenship based on age of the NS account or activity in the region because I do not know who would make puppets and be able to keep them active enough to vote.

I don't think would be a good idea. Having citizenship with WA status not only reduces the chances of people voting multiple times with puppets, but it provides a consistent set of standards that we can all agree on. The standards you propose are subjective, biased against new members, and it would be hard to reach a consensus on the proper age and activity level to get citizenship.

Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica

Jaslandia wrote:Nonsense! You shouldn't be so hard on yourself, Peng!

I don't think would be a good idea. Having citizenship with WA status not only reduces the chances of people voting multiple times with puppets, but it provides a consistent set of standards that we can all agree on. The standards you propose are subjective, biased against new members, and it would be hard to reach a consensus on the proper age and activity level to get citizenship.

Not gonna lie, Jas is right.

Flynn, the system you propose is great for something like a chat region, but it would remove too many people here from the list with questionable benefits.

Jaslandia

I've read comments on my bill, and I've made a few edits to it. Thank you all very much for your words.

Had an interesting chat today in politics class about Brexit and its implications for Europe.

Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

Nuremgard wrote:Brexit

*dies inside*

Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:Had an interesting chat today in politics class about Brexit and its implications for Europe.

What was the general consensus?

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:What was the general consensus?

I think there is a general desire to remain in the EU (I gleamed that anyway.) But there were different opinions on the future of the EU. One guy in class said he thinks the EU will survive only if it reforms itself, another said it will fall apart and I suggested that it will become stronger.

We also discussed the possible outcomes for Northern Ireland after Brexit.

Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

Nuremgard wrote:I think there is a general desire to remain in the EU (I gleamed that anyway.) But there were different opinions on the future of the EU. One guy in class said he thinks the EU will survive only if it reforms itself, another said it will fall apart and I suggested that it will become stronger.

We also discussed the possible outcomes for Northern Ireland after Brexit.

Interesting. I think it will survive. I don't think that a lot of countries in the EU would be better without EU. See the southern nations. I think it pays out for everyone.

Nuremgard

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Interesting. I think it will survive. I don't think that a lot of countries in the EU would be better without EU. See the southern nations. I think it pays out for everyone.

I'd say some of the nations don't benefit as much. Greece being an example. Plus some of the countries are operating big trade deficits like France, Portugal, Spain and Italy but Germany is sitting on a massive trade surplus. I think it and other more prosperous nations should share out the wealth among the less fortunate member states.

Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

Nuremgard wrote:I'd say some of the nations don't benefit as much. Greece being an example. Plus some of the countries are operating big trade deficits like France, Portugal, Spain and Italy but Germany is sitting on a massive trade surplus. I think it and other more prosperous nations should share out the wealth among the less fortunate member states.

Yeah. Everyone hates us for this.

Nuremgard, The United Providences Of Perland

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Yeah. Everyone hates us for this.

It can cause resentment and jealousy. Also makes it look like the EU is dominated and ruled by Germany for German interests.

Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:It can cause resentment and jealousy. Also makes it look like the EU is dominated and ruled by Germany for German interests.

How about to break up Germany in two separate nations ? jk

Or shall we keep quiet and just give money and don't complain ?

Nuremgard

Nuremgard wrote:It can cause resentment and jealousy. Also makes it look like the EU is dominated and ruled by Germany for German interests.

But seriously. Shall we work so the others can spend our money for whatever they need? I don't think it's fair if only few countries have to give while others just take.

Nuremgard

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:How about to break up Germany in two separate nations ? jk

Or shall we keep quiet and just give money and don't complain ?

LET'S GIVE EUROPE TO GERMAN CONTROL!

Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

The United Providences Of Perland wrote:LET'S GIVE EUROPE TO GERMAN CONTROL!

Nope thanks.

Vista Major, The United Providences Of Perland

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Nope thanks.

Für DEUTSCHLAND!

The United Providences Of Perland

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:But seriously. Shall we work so the others can spend our money for whatever they need? I don't think it's fair if only few countries have to give while others just take.

I don't think successful countries like Germany should be punished as such, but I had this idea in class that I thought up. What if, when a nation in the EU runs a continuous trade surplus, it is legally obliged to give a percentage of that surplus to poorer nations?

Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:How about to break up Germany in two separate nations

How about 30?

German Confederation memes

Vista Major

Nuremgard wrote:I don't think successful countries like Germany should be punished as such, but I had this idea in class that I thought up. What if, when a nation in the EU runs a continuous trade surplus, it is legally obliged to give a percentage of that surplus to poorer nations?

Hmm. But this surplus is mostly done by companies which aren't under governmental control. I don't think companies would like to be forced to give away some of their surplus.

Unfallious wrote:How about 30?

German Confederation memes

No, please no.

Vista Major

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Hmm. But this surplus is mostly done by companies which aren't under governmental control. I don't think companies would like to be forced to give away some of their surplus.

Then they may go elsewhere. The Scandinavian nations do fine with high taxes. But far be it from me to try and tell another country how to run its economic policy.

Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:It can cause resentment and jealousy. Also makes it look like the EU is dominated and ruled by Germany for German interests.

Honestly, without the reform you've suggested, it's likely to be impossible for the EU to get stronger...though, that said, getting the German Government to take it up the rear that hard would be near impossible.

Honestly, an EU army could only be made with near all german products by this point, so even if it brought the whole of Europe closer through this sacrifice, it would benefit massively from it :/

Nuremgard

Kalaron wrote:Honestly, without the reform you've suggested, it's likely to be impossible for the EU to get stronger...though, that said, getting the German Government to take it up the rear that hard would be near impossible.

Honestly, an EU army could only be made with near all german products by this point, so even if it brought the whole of Europe closer through this sacrifice, it would benefit massively from it :/

I am a supporter of the EU but it needs serious reform.

Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:Then they may go elsewhere. The Scandinavian nations do fine with high taxes. But far be it from me to try and tell another country how to run its economic policy.

But if they go elsewhere there might be worse location factors and conditions making it harder to produce a surplus. But also if those factors were the same and the companies move to other countries the 'rich' country becomes 'poor' and the others 'rich'. And then they will move again. Seems like a doom loop. Well unless every country has the same surplus which won't happen. And there is always the greedy human destroying this system by hoarding more and more of it's money.

Nuremgard

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:But if they go elsewhere there might be worse location factors and conditions making it harder to produce a surplus. But also if those factors were the same and the companies move to other countries the 'rich' country becomes 'poor' and the others 'rich'. And then they will move again. Seems like a doom loop. Well unless every country has the same surplus which won't happen. And there is always the greedy human destroying this system by hoarding more and more of it's money.

Makes you wonder if the system can work at all. I like the EU. I think has and can achieve great things. But can it be reformed? Can it survive? I want it too. But I'm not sure.

Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:I am a supporter of the EU but it needs serious reform.

Agree for the most part.

Serious reform needs to happen, and certain hearts in Britain need to realize that leaving the EU is doomed to fail in serious ways, both defense related and in industry.

Far as I see, Merkel did a stupid when she said "We won't let anyone take Europe from us"

Nuremgard

Can I call dibs on tile 104 ?! :O I'm awaiting reply from Baxter and I wonder if you can dibs :D

Nuremgard wrote:Makes you wonder if the system can work at all. I like the EU. I think has and can achieve great things. But can it be reformed? Can it survive? I want it too. But I'm not sure.

Well if it won't survive I have a plan. You try to become head of Scotland while I try to become head of Germany. Then we form our own little union which will prosper under our lead and then all the other nations get jealous and want to be part of our club. And so we establish EU 2.0 :)

Nuremgard

Kalaron wrote:Agree for the most part.

Serious reform needs to happen, and certain hearts in Britain need to realize that leaving the EU is doomed to fail in serious ways, both defense related and in industry.

Far as I see, Merkel did a stupid when she said "We won't let anyone take Europe from us"

I think the UK will suffer economically for leaving the EU but I don't think it will be as catastrophic as some predict. I hope it leads to the disintegration of the British Union, however.

Penguania And Antarctica

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Well if it won't survive I have a plan. You try to become head of Scotland while I try to become head of Germany. Then we form our own little union which will prosper under our lead and then all the other nations get jealous and want to be part of our club. And so we establish EU 2.0 :)

I get to be Emperor.

Penguania And Antarctica

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