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Region: The Confederacy of Free Nations
Show me some numbers that prove otherwise.
Lol. I feel the same way.
I'm not talking about tags. I'm talking ideology wise since you are talking about extremism, and I'm asking how are we going to define it. You may consider all fascist ideologies extreme, while others may not.
Yukona
Copper, steel, and aluminum are our primary metals.
The only way to define the ideologies of a region is tags. So Fascist is an umbrella term
1) Man, be informed on how things work, OK
2) If you had the power to suppres things I have, I bet you would have used it more than five times already. I, on the other hand, tolerated debate.
Well, copper and aluminium are both pretty great :D
Australia is the world's leading producer of rutile, zircon, bauxite, iron ore and ilmenite, the second largest producer of alumina, gold, lithium, manganese ore, lead and zinc, the third largest producer of uranium, and the fourth largest of silver, nickel and black coal, so I'd love to trade with you.
Jaslandia
Please, to the both of you, refrain from saying such things.
Jaslandia, Yukona, Cesorion
Great! I could use some silver and iron, and in exchange, you'll get my copper and aluminum, and I'll buy some of your military technology.
I am already doing my best...
Okay, I feel like this discussion is going to end up going nowhere. I concede that Stalin wasn't a good person and I mostly made that statement out of hyperbole after you called me a dirty Marxist. I agree with most of your stances, but the only one I'm having an issue with is your protection of authoritarian nations simply for economical reasons.
Then we can just drop the issue, no?
Clearly, Handland is focused on his personal experience and can't be dissuaded from that because it's just that.
We'll refrain from reaffirming his thoughts by just not banning fascist members like we never did to Aldaur.
Sounds good dude.
Jaslandia, Yukona, Cesorion
Excellent! I'm glad we could make a deal.
I never said we were going to ban anyone, OK. He started it. Anyway, since Chancellor Election poll did not lead to so much debate, I think we can end this here.
I'll take computer technology and IT
Jaslandia
Never said you did man, it's what Handland is fearing tho. Don't worry, everything is fine :D
I agree though, ending the discussion is for the best.
Cesorion
1. You and I were clearly talking about two different things, so let's not be a dick, shall we?
2. You make an assumption about a person you don't know. I believe in debate as well, so I highly doubt I would suppressed anything. Remember what they say, assuming makes an *ss out of you and me.
Peoples Liberation Republic, Yukona
The Free State has control of the lake, and is composed primarily of members of the pre-Civil War Federal Government. We're also in the process of removing the administration of Medri Bahri (basically getting rid of Isaias Afwerki) for human rights abuses
I can sell you some mang
Jaslandia, Kalaron
I have created a Brexit voter's worst nightmare.
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_confederate_states_of_europe
Jaslandia, Andromitus, Lex Caledonia, Pirate Kingdoms, Yukona, United Continental States
United Europe :p
Nuremgard
I'm going to put a Scotsman in charge of it. I.e. Me :P
Lex Caledonia, Pirate Kingdoms
Yeet
Telegram the answer to these questions to this nation to be added to the economic system!
What is the average RP income in your nation in terms of the United States Dollar (Use information you know regarding your nation and the way that it is set up to make an educated guess.)?
Does your nations federal government have any deals that recur on an annual or monthly basis with other nations?
What is the tax burden in your nation by percentage (average tax burden encompassing all taxes on an average citizen)?
What is your national budget breakdown by percentage?
Have you made any recent negotiations with other nations?
It allows you to maintain your national currency while also keeping close tabs on trade, your budget, and discretionary reserves!
I cant decide. Should Scotland, Ireland and England be separate member states or should a federal UK be the member state?
Pirate Kingdoms
Seperate.
#BEST UNION
Nuremgard, Andromitus, Lex Caledonia, Pirate Kingdoms
Probably separate members: it depends if the CSE is really a confederal system, and if so it would give them more autonomy in their decisions as opposed to operating as a federal state (basically, they can decide by themselves rather than take it under one government)
Nuremgard, Yukona
I could do that. Computer technology/IT for bauxite and demands.
I see. Let's wait a little bit for things to settle down, then we'll talk.
I only called it the Confederate States because every other Europe-related name was taken. :P
Got it, esé
Jaslandia
I frankly don't care if you approve of my stances or not, especially since you have rejected my offer of unity with the rest of the leftist world simply because not every member is Marxist.
I'm rejecting your offer of unity because I believe social justice and civil rights are more important than state-owned economy.
I literally made the offer, and you said "ew revisionist".
But it's whatever, I don't really care about your membership anymore.
Yukona
That reminds me, I've been meaning to offer my military wares to you :D
Same list as what Jas got.
Jaslandia
Well yeah, for the reasons stated above. I still think it's revisionist of you. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Huh? Moi? Why?
This is why rightists beat us, lads. Too much infighting.
Cesorion
(So are 90% of the leftist nations in the RP)
Yukona
For a few reasons, like how you stood up to the sequestration of Vista tbh.
Also to make money for my nation and ensure your ability to defend yourself.
Again, I don't care about what economic branch of leftism you are, but if you put that over rights I won't stand for it.
Huh. I'll take a look.
Jaslandia, Kalaron
Isn't this for an RP? If it is, simmer. If it's real life, aye, rights come first.
Tell that to the guy that rejected an offer to join pretty much all of the leftists in the RP world.
Yukona
Ooh, the drama.
Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Talkative Friedensriech
90% of our RP is just drama.
Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Yukona
Yeah, it's for an RP, but I was just making my stance clear. I won't throw a hissy-fit at every dictatorship here.
My dictatorships (some of them anyway) are alright. ;)
Jaslandia
Attacking Somalia again:
https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_confederacy_general
...
Hmm, a superpower (with a flag full of stars and stripes) bombing a third-world country. Where have I heard that before?
United Continental States
I like those tanks...
cool story
They're for sale along with the rest of what I linked, so just tell me what you want :D
Axeldonia
Hey, it's just honesty
Two superpowers, I should add. Let's not forget my secret/totally legal and ethical support for the Kongo.
Peoples Liberation Republic
This is why I don't RP. Well, not really. I'm just lazy.
Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Talkative Friedensriech
Oh come on, RP as Tangshan so I have a reason to keep my West TC! :P
Nuremgard, Jaslandia
You want me to RP as an extremely oppressive, extremely free market, extremely aggressive absolute monarchy with an emperor who is worshipped as a god? :P
Jaslandia
TBH, sometimes it's annoying but it can also be fun.
My favorite thing to do is just to sell people the best guns and profit from it, honestly.
Nuremgard, Jaslandia
Which reminds me, if you don't RP, then what do you do with the money you make from selling Kalaronian weapons? Do you put it back into the business, or are you using all that money to build palaces and whatnot for the CEO/leader/Archon all over Australia?
Nuremgard, Vista Major
Yeah! I need a rival worth my time in Asia!
And I think Tibet/Sinkiang could be a great rival to my Han-centric Republic :P
Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Peoples Liberation Republic
Tibet's a bit small for Tangshan. It's based on China. :P
Jaslandia
You're our dramaalert.
Nuremgard, United Continental States
*Looks at secret plans to literally take Australia into space*
Uh
*Looks at literal rooms full of doggos, all ripe for the petting*
uH
*Looks at planes to put enough iron beneath Australia to shift the magnetic poles just cause*
UM
No but really I use a bit of it to pay for the costs of developing the next weapon and then IDK what I do with my wealth.
Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Vista Major
I said Tibet and Sinkiang, which makes up a huge part of China :P
Love Killer Keemstar. He's such a smartass that I can't help but love him
Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth
I tried looking for you on the map. I couldn't see you lol. And I don't really know where those places are or how big they are combined...geography is not my strong suit.
Although having a nasty, brutish monarchy on your doorstep could be fun! Especially with such polar opposite ideologies!
Take the number two spot on the map. It has 100,000,000 people
Nuremgard
I assume this is the region Fried is talking about for Tangshan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang
Nuremgard, Talkative Friedensriech
Eats popcorn as everone shouts over everyone else
Nice.
Ah, thanks, Jas. Decent size. Although Nuremgard still needs to be taken off the map. I asked Bax to do it ages ago but he hasn't got around to it.
Jaslandia
I watched someone take the piss out of and criticise him. Was great.
This is Sinkiang and Tibet on a map:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/67/59/3c/67593c7748714c7632ccecb2e2bb7a2a.jpg
I'm basically the eastern half
Nuremgard, Jaslandia
Ye, I think a rivalry is in order :P
Plus, I can see us fighting over central China for a very long time!
Nuremgard, Jaslandia
It belongs to the Emperor! He is a god on earth you know. :P
Jaslandia, Talkative Friedensriech
http://imgur.com/cVLSmFh
Nuremgard, Jaslandia
How very dare you. Tangshan will wipe out you dirty commies.
Jaslandia
It can try :P
Nuremgard
Tangshan's population is bigger, its economy is bigger and richer, its military is bigger. You're screwed. :P
The Onocarcan Island Territory of Yỹyanyaski has been voted most annoying name of anywhere in the Federation, just ahead of Yỹbia, and Byhtr.
Jaslandia
I don't think so :P
950,000,000 people (600,000,000 from me and 350,000,000 from Cantonese Republics) strooonker
Nuremgard
Who's the current cartographer?
We shall see, you commie republican heathen.
You cappy monarchist heretic!
Nuremgard
Isn't Cantonese yukona? And isn't Yukona in Cascadis (plot 85)
Oel.
Yuk is trying to actually become Yukona again.
Did he move again? The puppet is still there.
Oel?
Oelesa
Gonna need a day to get the map and settled in.
Bax had yet to move him.
*nods in Canadian*
Happy to announce that [nation=short]Vista Major[/nation] and [nation=short]peoples liberation republic[/nation] are now ISC Member nations!
Telegram this nation to find out how you can be among the growing membership.
Maintain your currency while having a grasp upon trade and adding another realistic level to the RP!
Peoples Liberation Republic, Vista Major, Yukona, South Hyder
*types a huge post in CG about an Ardayga attack on NST positions*
*post had Ardayga actually reveal they are technologically capable and are somewhat professional*
*spend 2 hours typing it*
*crappy internet signal forces me to restart my computer and lose all progress*
feels bad man
Aside from that, though, I finally got a new laptop with guaranteed warranty
Jaslandia, Peoples Liberation Republic, Kalaron, Penguania And Antarctica, Tserra, Yukona, Percyton
Evening dudes. Just wanted to say thanks for the Happy Birthdays (especially from Peng, thanks for the shout out bud!) and sorry for the lack of activity. Feeling a little sad because of my birthday, but I'll get over it. Expect a post tomorrow. I know I said that yesterday, but I mean it this time.
Oh, and death to socialism.
Jaslandia, The Empire Of Handland, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, Percyton, Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth
Oi, I was mentioned. And how in god's green Earth am I liberal?
Anywho, in regards to the poll, I must vote nay primarily for two reasons.
1) In regards to not accepting embassy applications with nations that have been condemned by the WA Assembly. While I know the WA doesn't just hand out condemnations willy nilly, and can generally agree with many of the condemnations they hand out, I must say that I am against letting the WA have a degree of control over our Foreign Affairs. We, not the WA, should be the ones that determine what regions are worth our time and should handle all regions on a case-by-case basis, regardless of their status within the WA.
2) The Tags. While I do agree with the tags listed being something I definitely don't agree with, I'd like to note that the original CFN had the tag of 'Fascist.' This wasn't because we were for Fascism, but rather because we welcomed Fascist members to our community. It was a symbol of how we accepted any and all regardless of their political leanings. Who's to say other regions don't do the same? And who's to say that a region that may be in some ways fascist, or uses the fascist tag (or any of the other tags listed), will not be of a benefit to the CoFN in the realm of Foreign Affairs? Let's not forget that members of this very community are self-described Fascists, and have proven themselves to be valued members of this community alongside those of other ideologies. We should handle it the same way as I have said before, handle things on a case-by-case basis instead of a blanket ban. This way, we won't eliminate any potential allies and friends just because of ideology, or if they were like the original CFN simply because they included a tag.
My two cents anyway.
The Empire Of Handland, Baxten, Kalaron, Yukona, Cesorion
Here's the alphabet of the of the Federation. It started in the East and has become commonly used across even the west.
http://imgur.com/a/EMlR0
Percyton
<<< Tempted to turn the Confederate States of Europe into a dictatorship.
As someone who is only peripherally involved and have been busy getting stuff ready to move out next Friday, can I please get a short update on what's going on? Who is winning in Somalia?
Currently no-one - for some reason, PLR is bombing villages and stuff despite two things:
1. the campaign against the Ardayga in those regions is weakening as the Ardayga call for a last stand for any units in the original two villages he invaded.
2. the villages the PLR is bombing are allied to the NST by default (they are under the secondary administration of the South-West State, which is an NST ally and probably pissed off that civilians are being indiscriminately killed by naval attacks)
I was typing a separate post involving an Ardayga raid but my home internet is a piece of crap due to using an outdated router, eventually leading to me restarting the computer and losing all my progress.
Andromitus, Kalaron
Happy to announce that [nation=short]Pirate Kingdoms[/nation] has joined the ISC community.
Is that an Æ I see? An Æ for Ændy?
*Britain Sweats Nervously*
> Mentions questions regarding PLR's bombing runs of Somalia
> Forgets primary argument
> Gets grumped at
> Fails to Grump in response, Loses Grump war
> PLR Continues bombing
> Natives are angry, PLR Cause is faltering
Ahhh thats what I wanted to say :3
Nuremgard
Ooooh, I like the PLR military's train of thought... that is, if they're doing that for the reasons I think they're doing them.
Welp, no need for my nation to get involved publicly yet, so I'm going to sit in the background and continue wrapping up Katerina's elaborate plot for Scandinavia.
It's great. Really great. So great I'm going to build a wall and make the Vistonians pay for it. Believe me.
Peoples Liberation Republic, Percyton, United Continental States
Yeah, this seems more like a waste of money for them, then. Attacking allies really seems like a bad idea for the NST considering no one would really work with them, then. (IIRC PLR is working with the NST.)
Kal looks like an ogre and his girlfriend Salami looks like a troll
Yukona
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