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Bunal wrote:That’s actually pretty cool, thought of a benevolent liberal monarchy always fascinated me, your nation seems pretty nice

Thanks very much. I've worked on it for years to make it as pleasant as possible. I used to have a national health service but I got rid of it when I had a massive tax rate. I thought doing so would reduce it. Turns out it barely affected it. I've been waiting to bring it back ever since.

Spanelsko, Yiddish Nederland

Nuremgard wrote:Thanks very much. I've worked on it for years to make it as pleasant as possible. I used to have a national health service but I got rid of it when I had a massive tax rate. I thought doing so would reduce it. Turns out it barely affected it. I've been waiting to bring it back ever since.

In my attempt to raise recreational drug use, I may have accidentally tanked poltical freedom because the drugs in the water led to brainwashing.

Nuremgard, Spanelsko, Yiddish Nederland

When will N day start?

Yiddish Nederland

Midasia wrote:In my attempt to raise recreational drug use, I may have accidentally tanked poltical freedom because the drugs in the water led to brainwashing.

Why do you want to increase drug use? lol

Midasia, Yiddish Nederland

Bunal wrote:When will N day start?

It starts on Sunday at 7pm for me. Check the news feed and click the little button to find out when it begins. The button will show your local time.

Yiddish Nederland

Nuremgard wrote:Why do you want to increase drug use? lol

In my old nation, I had the region's highest drug use. I want the title back.

Nuremgard, Spanelsko, Yiddish Nederland

Bunal wrote:Not particularly, I kinda have been thinking about East Asia and a bit about Central Europe when creating this nation. I am kinda doing my own independent thing on it

"Unity and freedom is strength"

I am quite sure you meant to write Mass Terrorism and Freedom is Strength future puppet state of Greater Iberia.

My name is Supreme Khan of the Iberian Hordes united under my free and oppressive rule. Welcome to the confederacy of free nations, a region which will by the end of 2029 fly the flags of the victorious revolutionary army of our amazing Dystopia.

If you seek good friends to die alongside look towards the land of the jews known as Netherlands (Yiddish Nederland) or the backwards russian states like Nuremgard or Russkov Soviet.

If you seek to abandon principles of liberal democracy or totalitarian hell holes like communism and their friends feel free to expand the horde and embrace chaos!

-Psychopath of Iberia

Russkov Soviet, Yiddish Nederland, Bunal

obviously new guy don't take that post above too seriously, its just a bit of IC roleplay cause my nation is the embodiment of insanity and lack of logic :p

welcome to the region, may you feel right at home.

Russkov Soviet, Yiddish Nederland, Bunal

Bunal wrote:Not particularly, I kinda have been thinking about East Asia and a bit about Central Europe when creating this nation. I am kinda doing my own independent thing on it

Hullo, I'm the regional arms dealer owo. Depending on how your nation turns out -and on my catalogue- we could eventually make a deal.

Russkov Soviet, Yiddish Nederland

Kalaron-A wrote:Hullo, I'm the regional arms dealer owo. Depending on how your nation turns out -and on my catalogue- we could eventually make a deal.

That’s good, my goal is to make everyone required to own a gun so I can stay for the most part out of conflict and can avoid invasion.

Russkov Soviet, Yiddish Nederland

Bunal wrote:That’s good, my goal is to make everyone required to own a gun so I can stay for the most part out of conflict and can avoid invasion.

If you want, I can give you advice on building a defensive army capable of resisting invasion, or at least staving it off for a while. I do shill my stuff -what self-respecting business man wouldn't? :P- but understanding and explaining the Military has always been a passion of mine so the shilling is secondary to the actual info. I only ask because the whole "Armed Everyone" is a thing of the past pretty much, and it's more a traditional way to pretend to have a force than to genuinely have one.

Russkov Soviet, Yiddish Nederland

Heyo. How is everyone?

Russkov Soviet, Midasia, Yiddish Nederland

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Heyo. How is everyone?

Tired and slightly overwhelmed, as usual. How are you?

Russkov Soviet, Penguania And Antarctica, Yiddish Nederland

Kalaron-A wrote:If you want, I can give you advice on building a defensive army capable of resisting invasion, or at least staving it off for a while. I do shill my stuff -what self-respecting business man wouldn't? :P- but understanding and explaining the Military has always been a passion of mine so the shilling is secondary to the actual info. I only ask because the whole "Armed Everyone" is a thing of the past pretty much, and it's more a traditional way to pretend to have a force than to genuinely have one.

And I'll assist where I can. Since I've seen a few invasions first hand. And my nation has a testing ground for you Kal. Case you need it.

Yiddish Nederland

Midasia wrote:Tired and slightly overwhelmed, as usual. How are you?

Eh, okay. Tired, sad and bored at the same time. Plust the usual loneliness.

Midasia, Yiddish Nederland

Kalaron-A wrote:If you want, I can give you advice on building a defensive army capable of resisting invasion, or at least staving it off for a while. I do shill my stuff -what self-respecting business man wouldn't? :P- but understanding and explaining the Military has always been a passion of mine so the shilling is secondary to the actual info. I only ask because the whole "Armed Everyone" is a thing of the past pretty much, and it's more a traditional way to pretend to have a force than to genuinely have one.

Since I’m focusing on healthcare and welfare and my military is likely to be small because of those focuses, if war to occur and my military fails I was thinking I can help people organize and properly train in case of invasion to defend themselves rather than just surrender

Nuremgard, Spanelsko, Yiddish Nederland

Bunal wrote:Since I’m focusing on healthcare and welfare and my military is likely to be small because of those focuses, if war to occur and my military fails I was thinking I can help people organize and properly train in case of invasion to defend themselves rather than just surrender

Trust me if you give us a decent fight we will only enslave your population, if you waste our time we will nuke you, simple as that.

But feel free to ask us to invade you any time, to test your defenses. We won't be starting ww3 for a while anyway.

Russkov Soviet, Yiddish Nederland

Do your nations have Jewish communities? I maybe want to work out setting up some synagogues and Yiddish Cultural and Language Learning centers. (That would also be open to all of course.)

Russkov Soviet, Nuremgard, Spanelsko, Midasia

Yiddish Nederland wrote:Do your nations have Jewish communities? I maybe want to work out setting up some synagogues and Yiddish Cultural and Language Learning centers. (That would also be open to all of course.)

3% of our population is Jewish.

Yiddish Nederland

Yiddish Nederland wrote:Do your nations have Jewish communities? I maybe want to work out setting up some synagogues and Yiddish Cultural and Language Learning centers. (That would also be open to all of course.)

Yes. Midasia is a place for people of all backgrounds to congregate. However, the Jewish community is mostly Sephardic and speaks Ladino instead of Yiddish.

Yiddish Nederland

Spanelsko wrote:Trust me if you give us a decent fight we will only enslave your population, if you waste our time we will nuke you, simple as that.

But feel free to ask us to invade you any time, to test your defenses. We won't be starting ww3 for a while anyway.

That would be depressing if you a nation of above a billion lost multiple battles to a bunch of small armed communities and had to go to nuking

Spanelsko, Yiddish Nederland

Bunal wrote:Since I’m focusing on healthcare and welfare and my military is likely to be small because of those focuses, if war to occur and my military fails I was thinking I can help people organize and properly train in case of invasion to defend themselves rather than just surrender

IRL, it depends on the lifestyle of the people. 90% of nations, especially First World Nations, would be incapable of getting the people riled enough to really commit to a resistance where they lose basically 100% of their commodities and take on the risk of getting blown up or shot. Besides that, if it comes to war, you don't really get an opportunity to organize people after the military falls, because any attempt to gather people together could be fairly labeled a gathering of combatants and bombed. Attempts to use radio or other methods for it are also questionable, because blanket jamming is to be expected for an enemy who lags in technology and "smart jamming" is to be expected for those with enough technology.

You really have to have the Conscripts -because, in the end, that's what they are- trained before the conflict, and even then they'll probably not maintain fitness standards after their basic training and become a liability. If you have a small military, I encourage you to find some group to ally with so that it just needs to hold out rather than fully resisting an enemy. It's what Sweden, Norway, Taiwan and other nations in similar situations are actually counting on, they veritably need the US army to back them up and their ties guarantee that they'd get it.

I'll go out on a limb and say that Concord still exists in RP (I mean, I'm here and I RP more or less) so if you join that group you get access to the Concordat Defense Militias, which basically have that exact goal (Slow down the enemy using relatively advanced technology, wait for the bulk forces of the Concordat to show up with yet more) and are a donation-based force. Every member is able to request a basing of the Militia in their nation, and it doesn't charge -owing to their donation-basing- besides the necessary donation of land and garrison for said base.

That said, all of that is IRL. If you want your lore a certain way, it's your right to have it that way, owo.

Yiddish Nederland wrote:Do your nations have Jewish communities? I maybe want to work out setting up some synagogues and Yiddish Cultural and Language Learning centers. (That would also be open to all of course.)

Kalaron is pretty atheistic at this point, owing to the previous sectarian conflict and a wide embrace of the Scientific Method. That said, we're also not against Cultural Exchange or Immigration of different people.

Russkov Soviet, Yiddish Nederland

Yiddish Nederland wrote:Do your nations have Jewish communities? I maybe want to work out setting up some synagogues and Yiddish Cultural and Language Learning centers. (That would also be open to all of course.)

We do not, but we have an International Center of Culture (Международный культурный центр) in our capitol city. We could construct a synagogue easily.

Yiddish Nederland

Midasia wrote:Yes. Midasia is a place for people of all backgrounds to congregate. However, the Jewish community is mostly Sephardic and speaks Ladino instead of Yiddish.

Do any of the community memebers, especially the prominent ones know old style hebrew? Most folks in Yiddish Nederland are either trilingual or can at least speak the other two languages besides dutch brokenly.

Midasia

Russkov Soviet wrote:We do not, but we have an International Center of Culture (Международный культурный центр) in our capitol city. We could construct a synagogue easily.

Okay so after reading Russkov Soviet history in your factbook it is now canon that in Yiddish Nederland Russkov Soviet is exclusively referred to as "Futer-land" or furry-land in my dialect of Yiddish. Also fox-people? Rad.

Russkov Soviet

Yiddish Nederland wrote:Do any of the community memebers, especially the prominent ones know old style hebrew? Most folks in Yiddish Nederland are either trilingual or can at least speak the other two languages besides dutch brokenly.

Not really, old-style Hebrew is only used when reciting the Tanakh or Talmud directly. For most of the service, Ladino is used.

Yiddish Nederland

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I like this one. They can stay.

what did you do to your flag

Midasia wrote:Not really, old-style Hebrew is only used when reciting the Tanakh or Talmud directly. For most of the service, Ladino is used.

Wait are jewish too or just a really knowledgeable gentile?

Midasia

Yiddish Nederland wrote:Okay so after reading Russkov Soviet history in your factbook it is now canon that in Yiddish Nederland Russkov Soviet is exclusively referred to as "Futer-land" or furry-land in my dialect of Yiddish. Also fox-people? Rad.

Heh. Nice. And thank you. ^^;

Yiddish Nederland

Russkov Soviet wrote:Heh. Nice. And thank you. ^^;

Tmw my Fox People and Russ's are a long off relation

Fascinating cross-Paleo world genetics

Russkov Soviet, Yiddish Nederland

Kalaron-A wrote:Tmw my Fox People and Russ's are a long off relation

Fascinating cross-Paleo world genetics

Heh. Interesting stuff that.

Yiddish Nederland

Yiddish Nederland wrote:Wait are jewish too or just a really knowledgeable gentile?

No. Though my Jewish friends have said I look Jewish. I have just spent time looking at religions and I have learned a lot about them in school.

Yiddish Nederland

Midasia wrote:No. Though my Jewish friends have said I look Jewish. I have just spent time looking at religions and I have learned a lot about them in school.

That whole idea of somebody "looking jewish" is Nazi §hit. I'm half Ashkenazi but i feel like im pretty white passing except for my weird "pale-cinnamon" skin tone. You dont have to be ethnically hebrew to be jewish. Like yeah theres a jewish people, but the jewish people is people whom we share are faith with, not are genes. Sorry for going off I'm just /really/ passionate about this and its a sad reality that many fellow jews think like this and shows the lasting impact of our genocide. Again, sorry for popping off and i ain't bashing you just wanted to get the rant-fog out lol.

Midasia

Bunal wrote:That would be depressing if you a nation of above a billion lost multiple battles to a bunch of small armed communities and had to go to nuking

We learned a lot from our defeat at the hands of the Phoenix libtards more commonly referred to as the backwards democracies of the world. Today they are known as the Concordat i think, unless they are 2 different things.... after all we spent quite a long time in isolation ever since the original regime was toppled and Iberia collapsed upon itself so we haven't been keeping too many records on the world around us. With our only ties being to Ruskov.

And we learned even more from our failed Liberation of Russia where we lost to Ruskov. From what i remember the furthest we got was near Smolensk and Tver before the red army pushed us all the way back to Baltic. Had we committed to the invasion earlier and with full force before the red navy became a problem we could have won in my opinion. Securing high Autonomy for the Baltics was our only achievement during the end of the war as both sides realized that invasion of each other was now impossible.

And from these 2 wars the revolutionary army became the greatest in all of confederacy. As an unfortunate side effect the red army has recovered out of its total collapse that occurred sometime before our invasion.

At least we achieved the goal of Leningrad Smolensk line. Before the disaster that followed our military collapse on the eastern front.

The only reason i believe you could win some battles against is our inherent overconfidence in our military which was what lead to our defeat in russia. And the fact we were heavily outnumbered by the later stages of the war.

Russkov Soviet

Yiddish Nederland wrote:Do your nations have Jewish communities? I maybe want to work out setting up some synagogues and Yiddish Cultural and Language Learning centers. (That would also be open to all of course.)

To answer this question, we do have jewish communities but all practices of foreign faiths are only tolerated in some regions, so to build a Synagogues you would have to find a spot among our administrative mess of a state which would allow something like that.

Even most "blood jews" have converted and not many native iberians converted to Judaism, although some did.

Blood Jews isn't an insult btw, its simply a way in which we split our population as we have 3 main distinctive groups of people even for ourselves. Example being "Blood Iberians" which are iberians native to iberia and can follow any faith they choose.

True Iberian is considered anyone who is blood iberian and follows the state religion.

Honorary Iberian/Hispanic is considered anyone who follows the state religion but lack iberian or other hispanic blood in them. (in case they don't follow the state religion they are considered as a foreigner)

Same system is applied to anyone else living inside our borders. It may be a bit confusing at first to navigate through but it exists as a way to split people into their respective communities to avoid infighting inside of the horde. After all the people exist and live to serve the state, and not to fight against each other over dumb stuff like skin colour or birthplace of origin.

In the cases where people still fall back to these primitive and backwards ideas we make public examples of them.

And the public gets to vote on how they will be executed.

Russkov Soviet, Yiddish Nederland

How do y'all want your nation to be pictured? I want y'all to picture Yiddland as a sprawling, colorful city both literally snd metaphorically with great big green parks that stretch for blocks and large and small canals weaving throughout the mainland with synagogues at every corner. But also bleak shanty towns stacked so high people often joke you could clumb to the sun and also large family farms in the more rural parts. In Yiddland, dark skinned and light skinned people walk side by side without concern amd the streets and city are mostly clean. Though, there are some shady businesses and areas, the most important to the black market being the misty Port of Rotterdam. Also, there isn't that many skyscrapers in Yiddland even with its modernity. Its just yiddish beleif there generally ugly. Theres usually more traditional architecture, just adapted to modern times.

Russkov Soviet, Nuremgard

Yiddish Nederland wrote:How do y'all want your nation to be pictured? I want y'all to picture Yiddland as a sprawling, colorful city both literally snd metaphorically with great big green parks that stretch for blocks and large and small canals weaving throughout the mainland with synagogues at every corner. But also bleak shanty towns stacked so high people often joke you could clumb to the sun and also large family farms in the more rural parts. In Yiddland, dark skinned and light skinned people walk side by side without concern amd the streets and city are mostly clean. Though, there are some shady businesses and areas, the most important to the black market being the misty Port of Rotterdam. Also, there isn't that many skyscrapers in Yiddland even with its modernity. Its just yiddish beleif there generally ugly. Theres usually more traditional architecture, just adapted to modern times.

Kalaron is a cold, Boreal state with clusters of Brutalist-Exterior'd cities with deeply built transit tunnels, weapon-research labs, and a new kind of aircraft soaring through the air on a monthly basis. Though the outsides of buildings are generally harsh -but often paneled with more durable weather-cladding to help resist erosion- the interiors are often brightly lit and warmly furnished. A plethora of energy options exist, though the single biggest load-bearing sources come from relatively large nuclear reactors. Rockets, both civilian and military, frequently blast off with nuclear second-stages while BIGGLY ORIONs sit in their launch tubes just waiting for the day they're needed. In the meanwhile, the Kalaronian Military Industrial Complex produces in full swing and our best Diplomats use it to their full advantage.

That's the basics of how I've really seen it.

Russkov Soviet, Yiddish Nederland

Kalaron-A wrote:Kalaron is a cold, Boreal state with clusters of Brutalist-Exterior'd cities with deeply built transit tunnels, weapon-research labs, and a new kind of aircraft soaring through the air on a monthly basis. Though the outsides of buildings are generally harsh -but often paneled with more durable weather-cladding to help resist erosion- the interiors are often brightly lit and warmly furnished. A plethora of energy options exist, though the single biggest load-bearing sources come from relatively large nuclear reactors. Rockets, both civilian and military, frequently blast off with nuclear second-stages while BIGGLY ORIONs sit in their launch tubes just waiting for the day they're needed. In the meanwhile, the Kalaronian Military Industrial Complex produces in full swing and our best Diplomats use it to their full advantage.

That's the basics of how I've really seen it.

Oh also we lease out our Boosters for certain other nations (Peaceful ones like Pengu can get them, for instance, and PC members are given the ability to launch payloads with them)

Yiddish Nederland

The President of my secondary nation Dawn Isles had to increase her security detail after a failed assassination attempt this evening.

Russkov Soviet, Midasia

Nuremgard wrote:The President of my secondary nation Dawn Isles had to increase her security detail after a failed assassination attempt this evening.

Was it by revolutionaries, an individual or by a foreign power? This is critical information to Yiddish judgment.

Russkov Soviet, Nuremgard

Yiddish Nederland wrote:Was it by revolutionaries, an individual or by a foreign power? This is critical information to Yiddish judgment.

There are a number of culprits. It could be a white supremacist group, a pro-democracy militant, an anti-communist etc.

Russkov Soviet

Nuremgard wrote:There are a number of culprits. It could be a white supremacist group, a pro-democracy militant, an anti-communist etc.

If Democratic revolutionaries plead for help from Yiddland, especially if they are leftwing, they will be aided. The people have a right to rule themselves. That is the councils decision.

Nuremgard, Spanelsko

Yiddish Nederland wrote:If Democratic revolutionaries plead for help from Yiddland, especially if they are leftwing, they will be aided. The people have a right to rule themselves. That is the councils decision.

Why are you wanting to interfere in the business of a small African island nation?

Nuremgard wrote:Why are you wanting to interfere in the business of a small African island nation?

Can't break a few autocracies/make a few democracies without scrambling a few islands, I suppose :p

Nuremgard, Mercunova

Kalaron-A wrote:Can't break a few autocracies/make a few democracies without scrambling a few islands, I suppose :p

Typical westerners butting their noses in...

Mercunova

Nuremgard wrote:Why are you wanting to interfere in the business of a small African island nation?

Simple. The people have a right to rule themselves. No person or group of people should hold all the power.

Nuremgard

Yiddish Nederland wrote:Simple. The people have a right to rule themselves. No person or group of people should hold all the power.

But...it's still not your country and not your business lol

Russkov Soviet

Nuremgard wrote:Typical westerners butting their noses in...

Yiddlandish pop culture (as in movies, bands, etc.) actually more resembles are worlds japanese :D (think over dramtic shows and and Jewish hello-kitty.)

(Im not a weeb i just visited japan with extended family when i was little and thought it was rad.)

Nuremgard

Yiddish Nederland wrote:Yiddlandish pop culture (as in movies, bands, etc.) actually more resembles are worlds japanese :D (think over dramtic shows and and Jewish hello-kitty.)

(Im not a weeb i just visited japan with extended family when i was little and thought it was rad.)

My friend lived and worked there for a year. She loved it.

Nuremgard wrote:My friend lived and worked there for a year. She loved it.

Yeah i went with my best friend Dasiah and her family. I specifically love how people just mind there business..? Like america could NEVER. It was really cold to me being from the south, though. Also, Japanese street fashion? PLEASE normalize that §hit. And shinto is a really interesting faith. If i wasn't jewish i would be definitely be a shintoist as i vibe with the philosophy and practice. And the few people that we did talk to were so dang interesting. Overall if you ever get the opportunity to go you should :)

Nuremgard

Yiddish Nederland wrote:Yeah i went with my best friend Dasiah and her family. I specifically love how people just mind there business..? Like america could NEVER. It was really cold to me being from the south, though. Also, Japanese street fashion? PLEASE normalize that §hit. And shinto is a really interesting faith. If i wasn't jewish i would be definitely be a shintoist as i vibe with the philosophy and practice. And the few people that we did talk to were so dang interesting. Overall if you ever get the opportunity to go you should :)

Japanese culture is definitely fascinating. It's a very cool country. And I have heard very good things about young Japanese people's fashion sense.

Yiddish Nederland

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633361649251647509/759554067395248128/20200926_191617.jpg

We are prepared for Spook here in Mass

Yiddish Nederland

Yiddish Nederland wrote:If Democratic revolutionaries plead for help from Yiddland, especially if they are leftwing, they will be aided. The people have a right to rule themselves. That is the councils decision.

I am honestly surprised that i found a fellow revolutionary in this world, continue on my friend on this path. Together we will topple the governments of this world and establish true freedom!

Everyone deserves the right to shoot civilians! :p

Yiddish Nederland

I love this telegram I received that started "I would like to invite everyone to join my project which will be a Pro LGBT region and protect the rights of conservative voices that are shunned as fascist!"

That sounds like a brilliant idea.

Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova, Spanelsko, Midasia, Yiddish Nederland

Bearlong wrote:snip

Sounds like my idea to put nitric acid in chocolates

Spanelsko, Yiddish Nederland

Bearlong wrote:I love this telegram I received that started "I would like to invite everyone to join my project which will be a Pro LGBT region and protect the rights of conservative voices that are shunned as fascist!"

That sounds like a brilliant idea.

I don't even understand why ppl are conservative. Like as a person that conservatives usually think of as part of the "Other" rather then the "Them" (Queer, jewish, p0or.) It really comes of as poorly masked xenophobia. And like you can ponit out liberal values? But can you conservative? No becasue its just poorly defined hate. Sorry for going off.

Spanelsko wrote:I am honestly surprised that i found a fellow revolutionary in this world, continue on my friend on this path. Together we will topple the governments of this world and establish true freedom!

Everyone deserves the right to shoot civilians! :p

"I guess we kinda of have ideological similarities... in a way...?"

-Alte Alpert, president of Yiddland.

Spanelsko

Oy what faction er y'all in? Im in CRAB.

Yiddish Nederland wrote:I don't even understand why ppl are conservative. Like as a person that conservatives usually think of as part of the "Other" rather then the "Them" (Queer, jewish, p0or.) It really comes of as poorly masked xenophobia. And like you can ponit out liberal values? But can you conservative? No becasue its just poorly defined hate. Sorry for going off.

I think it's hard to ask why people are conservative for the same reason it's hard to ask why they're liberal, it's actually a thousand different variables (Location, background, altitude, personality traits, idealism as measured against cynicism and past exposure to government). Often times, conservatives are less trusting of people outside of a small community because of an innate distrust, for instance. If you take that distrust and begin introducing issues into the national framework for reporting (Like Journalists being incompetent, or extorting people to not make memes, or the hyper-politicization that grips us all) then the person will probably begin to know -consciously or not- that something is amiss. It's a quick road from there to apply a different ethnicity or something "in command" of the media for some conservatives for reasons that range from genuine racism to a pattern of poorly worded news reports with weird slants to them [This is not surprising, the human brain is meant to see patterns as a survival mechanism]. The best case is that the Conservative in question notices the same issues in their own news sources and realizes that both "sides" are often just trying to shanghai him, the worst is that they go full Q-Anon because they can tell that something is f@cked up somewhere but lack the ability to pinpoint it.

Of course, this is only one possible path of thought a conservative can take. As you should see from the variables that go into their perspective, there's a whole world of variation between their reasonings and their own world of logic for the political policies. My friend Puz, for instance, would count himself as a Conservative because of his youth spent in the SU and his love of the Constitution as it is.

Yiddish Nederland wrote:Oy what faction er y'all in? Im in CRAB.

I don't really do N-DAY. It's a lot of busywork in the end for a few regions to just sort of ascend.

Spanelsko, Yiddish Nederland

Kalaron-A wrote:I think it's hard to ask why people are conservative for the same reason it's hard to ask why they're liberal, it's actually a thousand different variables (Location, background, altitude, personality traits, idealism as measured against cynicism and past exposure to government). Often times, conservatives are less trusting of people outside of a small community because of an innate distrust, for instance. If you take that distrust and begin introducing issues into the national framework for reporting (Like Journalists being incompetent, or extorting people to not make memes, or the hyper-politicization that grips us all) then the person will probably begin to know -consciously or not- that something is amiss. It's a quick road from there to apply a different ethnicity or something "in command" of the media for some conservatives for reasons that range from genuine racism to a pattern of poorly worded news reports with weird slants to them [This is not surprising, the human brain is meant to see patterns as a survival mechanism]. The best case is that the Conservative in question notices the same issues in their own news sources and realizes that both "sides" are often just trying to shanghai him, the worst is that they go full Q-Anon because they can tell that something is f@cked up somewhere but lack the ability to pinpoint it.

Of course, this is only one possible path of thought a conservative can take. As you should see from the variables that go into their perspective, there's a whole world of variation between their reasonings and their own world of logic for the political policies. My friend Puz, for instance, would count himself as a Conservative because of his youth spent in the SU and his love of the Constitution as it is.

I don't really do N-DAY. It's a lot of busywork in the end for a few regions to just sort of ascend.

Im a liberal because i beleive in equality. Im a liberal because i beleive people have a right to there own time. I'm a liberal because i beleive people themselves should get to decide what happens to their bodies. I'm a liberal because i beleive the poor folk shouldn't just be allowed to starve to death. As liberals, we don't wanna change the constitution. I don't know where you got that from(*COUGH* democrats *COUGH*)but if anything we wanna make sure the Goverment ACTUALLY follows it. The feds have been acting real shady at the protests if you know what I'm sayin'.

Yiddish Nederland wrote:As liberals, we don't wanna change the constitution. I don't know where you got that from(*COUGH* democrats *COUGH*)but if anything we wanna make sure the Goverment ACTUALLY follows it. The feds have been acting real shady at the protests if you know what I'm sayin'.

Well, I dunno about liberals not wanting the constitution to be changed. If it weren't a living document, open to change and reinterpretation then the Bill of Rights would mean nothing when it came to State Governments.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gideon_v._Wainwright

As for the rest of it, I won't argue on it but the Conservatives would also claim that they just want the government to actually follow the Constitution, as dictated from their perspective. When it comes to the Protests, it's a complicated matter where I'm certain the Feds have pulled fishy sh!t in the same way I'm certain awful lot of people are acting with remarkably little judgement out there. The partisan nature of the news on both sides doesn't help, since I'm convinced both sides are distorting events for their own gain.

Yiddish Nederland

Kalaron-A wrote:Well, I dunno about liberals not wanting the constitution to be changed. If it weren't a living document, open to change and reinterpretation then the Bill of Rights would mean nothing when it came to State Governments.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gideon_v._Wainwright

As for the rest of it, I won't argue on it but the Conservatives would also claim that they just want the government to actually follow the Constitution, as dictated from their perspective. When it comes to the Protests, it's a complicated matter where I'm certain the Feds have pulled fishy sh!t in the same way I'm certain awful lot of people are acting with remarkably little judgement out there. The partisan nature of the news on both sides doesn't help, since I'm convinced both sides are distorting events for their own gain.

No matter what, the revolution is coming🧚‍♀️✨

(Also i feel like no matter who gets elected, both sides are gonna scream voter fraud at the top of their lungs. And it doesn't help that ✨daddy trump✨ already thinks hes a dictator.)

(Also, for perspective, im a social-libertarian/left-libertarian.)

Yiddish Nederland wrote:No matter what, the revolution is coming🧚‍♀️✨

(Also i feel like no matter who gets elected, both sides are gonna scream voter fraud at the top of their lungs. And it doesn't help that ✨daddy trump✨ already thinks hes a dictator.)

(Also, for perspective, im a social-libertarian/left-libertarian.)

Probably.

I've been described as a Centrist, Radical Centrist, National Security Dem, Mainstreet Republican and flat "Militarist" before

At this point I figure I'm really just an amalgam of dead ideologies

Lavan Tiri, Yiddish Nederland

Kalaron-A wrote:Probably.

I've been described as a Centrist, Radical Centrist, National Security Dem, Mainstreet Republican and flat "Militarist" before

At this point I figure I'm really just an amalgam of dead ideologies

Regardless, are curent government doesn't work for the people, and thats not okay. Fascism ain't a vibe. ✊🏻

Lavan Tiri, Midasia

Yiddish Nederland wrote:Regardless, are curent government doesn't work for the people, and thats not okay. Fascism ain't a vibe. ✊🏻

All I know is I've expended the mental resources I let myself spend on Politics, today. So I'm forced to derail this in favor of an even more important Convo:

Y'all, BioMediaProject might go down sooner than later because of Flash being dumb and built into each game from Lego. If you read or watched Bionicles as a kid I encourage you to visit their site ASAP. They have all the books and games on there. If you never read/watched/played as a kid, I fully recommend you do. It's got heros, villains, existential dread, questions of what one does when Satan becomes God, the Decimation of poorly performing Infantry Battalions, and more.

Even if you don't like any of the above, you'll probably still be amazed that Lego was OK with so much murder and Cthululian Beings in it's books?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/240869123163160590/752434437873991680/SmartSelect_20200907-034221_Drive.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/240869123163160590/752434438117392444/SmartSelect_20200907-034451_Drive.jpg

Do you accept the reality of the monster?: [Y/Y]

Lavan Tiri

Somehow i ended up on conservative youtube qnd i found this video that was basically "ugga ugga gen z bad" and the the boomers were so mad at are very existence in the comments😹

Nuremgard, The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Lavan Tiri

I hope you all had a nice weekend and will have a good start into the new week. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jn_WizqAAk

Yiddish Nederland

Yiddish Nederland wrote:No matter what, the revolution is coming🧚‍♀️✨

(Also i feel like no matter who gets elected, both sides are gonna scream voter fraud at the top of their lungs. And it doesn't help that ✨daddy trump✨ already thinks hes a dictator.)

(Also, for perspective, im a social-libertarian/left-libertarian.)

Soyuz Nerushimy intensifies

Are you perhaps the second coming of Papa Stalin? :p

Yiddish Nederland wrote:"I guess we kinda of have ideological similarities... in a way...?"

-Alte Alpert, president of Yiddland.

Oddly enough yes.

On an unrelated OOC question, what's your view on Israel?

https://phys.org/news/2020-09-moon.html#!

So

It looks like to colonize the moon you really need to bury your structures in the surface.

It's almost like Orion would have been perfectly suited to transport autonomous earth movers to the Moon compared to the Saturn V delivering just 2tons of payload.

Lavan Tiri

<<< Needs an issue to bring back the NHS.

NS: gives me two issues about women's periods.

Me: ......

Bearlong, Lavan Tiri, Mercunova, Spanelsko, Midasia

Nuremgard wrote:<<< Needs an issue to bring back the NHS.

NS: gives me two issues about women's periods.

Me: ......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hg5bXroHbg

This song might make your mood better :]

Nuremgard, Lavan Tiri

Spanelsko wrote:Soyuz Nerushimy intensifies

Are you perhaps the second coming of Papa Stalin? :pOddly enough yes.

On an unrelated OOC question, what's your view on Israel?

I beleive HaShem gave us the land, but i think he wanted us to convert the canaanites or atleast live peacefully alongside them and /their/ faith. I think the whole murdery conquery thing was completely us and a heinous sin. I beleive Israel to be ours, but not only ours.

Lavan Tiri

I've been listening to grandson for the past hour and now wanna start a revolution lol

The Royal Republic Of Kumania

Yiddish Nederland wrote:I beleive HaShem gave us the land, but i think he wanted us to convert the canaanites or atleast live peacefully alongside them and /their/ faith. I think the whole murdery conquery thing was completely us and a heinous sin. I beleive Israel to be ours, but not only ours.

So you believe Palestinians should be treated like human beings? Well that's good to know at least. It seems many these days accuse you of antisemitism if you even suggest such a thing.

Yiddish Nederland

Nuremgard wrote:So you believe Palestinians should be treated like human beings? Well that's good to know at least. It seems many these days accuse you of antisemitism if you even suggest such a thing.

... i don't know if i like that wording. The "Us" and "Them" mentality ain't a vibe.

Yiddish Nederland wrote:... i don't know if i like that wording. The "Us" and "Them" mentality ain't a vibe.

Many think like that these days. Nationalism is back in vogue unfortunately.

Yiddish Nederland

Nuremgard wrote:Many think like that these days. Nationalism is back in vogue unfortunately.

Mmhmm

Jesus. Turkey and Greece are itching for a fight with one another and now Azerbaijan and Armenia are going at it. The whole world is going bloody mad this year.

Nuremgard wrote:Jesus. Turkey and Greece are itching for a fight with one another and now Azerbaijan and Armenia are going at it. The whole world is going bloody mad this year.

Dunno if Greece and Turkey will go at it (It'd need Turkey to get Russia's sign-off on a proxy war with the EU, which though hilarious to see their response probably wouldn't happen) but Armenia versus Azerbaijan is interesting tbh. Looks like the Armenians kept their MIC healthy and their military well-supplied, because they already forced Azerbaijan's offensive to stall IIRC.

Kalaron-A wrote:Dunno if Greece and Turkey will go at it (It'd need Turkey to get Russia's sign-off on a proxy war with the EU, which though hilarious to see their response probably wouldn't happen) but Armenia versus Azerbaijan is interesting tbh. Looks like the Armenians kept their MIC healthy and their military well-supplied, because they already forced Azerbaijan's offensive to stall IIRC.

And of course bigger regional actors like Russia, Turkey and Iran will get involved because no country can ever just mind its own business these days.

Nuremgard wrote:And of course bigger regional actors like Russia, Turkey and Iran will get involved because no country can ever just mind its own business these days.

Depends on which way the autocratic winds blow. Since Russia doesn't have to worry about the same kinds of things the US does (Public approval, for instance) it might be a lot more inclined to butt in. That said, it's supporting Armenia as well so it might see it as being more in it's interest to get the others to back off, they supposedly weren't happy about the Turks donating their UCAVs for the Azerbaijani fire mission. Worst comes to worst, China or the US sells them some AT missiles and MANPADs and calls it a day.

As for minding their own business, you already know my views on how idealistic it is to ask a nation to do that.

E: Looks like the Armenians are taking a beating since Turkey started giving drone support. They might start leveling Azarbaj with IRBMs if the Ruskies don't come out to stop it lmao.

Lavan Tiri

Post self-deleted by Yiddish Nederland.

What is the political climate like in your nation? In Yiddland there is some tension between the traditionalist Jews and Progressive Jews and in more rural places tension between the Jewish majority and the gentile (usually folk-christian.) Minority. But overall, Yiddland is a very, Progressive, liberal place. Also the many political parties can never really agree on anything.

Lavan Tiri

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/36777/everything-we-know-about-the-fighting-that-has-erupted-between-armenia-and-azerbaijan

If y'all want to look at a nice and in-depth article, Warzone will have your back on basically any modern conflict. They're like if Journalists had any idea of what they were talking about, basically.

Lavan Tiri

Yiddish Nederland wrote:What is the political climate like in your nation? In Yiddland there is some tension between the traditionalist Jews and Progressive Jews and in more rural places tension between the Jewish majority and the gentile (usually folk-christian.) Minority. But overall, Yiddland is a very, Progressive, liberal place. Also the many political parties can never really agree on anything.

Kalaron, per the last revision in RP, is somewhat isolationist with a driving antipathy towards three things:

1) Countries that try to stop war

2) Countries that "politik" the truth

3) Alliences that attempt to control their members

Kalaronians generally agree on both the necessity of government healthcare (owing to their frigid surroundings, help isn't looked down upon necessarily, and health is still considered very important) and a large Military Industrial Complex for their diplomatic and -following the collapse of the ITF- Military needs.

Also owing to their location, Kalaron is a biggly fan of nuclear power. Not a NIMBY to be seen for miles and that's what makes it paradise :D

Lavan Tiri, Spanelsko, Yiddish Nederland

Yiddish Nederland wrote:What is the political climate like in your nation? In Yiddland there is some tension between the traditionalist Jews and Progressive Jews and in more rural places tension between the Jewish majority and the gentile (usually folk-christian.) Minority. But overall, Yiddland is a very, Progressive, liberal place. Also the many political parties can never really agree on anything.

Nurem is very liberal and progressive, very left-wing in social and economic issues. Politics is predominantly dominated by people from the western part of the nation, however which is a lot more secular and European in outlook and appearance. The further and more distant you get from the capital and western regions, the more detached people feel from government. They also get a bit annoyed because with how politics and culture is dominated by westerners, they feel unrepresented, or that everybody believes all Norsk are like that. They also sometimes feel looked down upon by the westerners.

Lavan Tiri, Yiddish Nederland

Kalaron-A wrote:Kalaron, per the last revision in RP, is somewhat isolationist with a driving antipathy towards three things:

1) Countries that try to stop war

2) Countries that "politik" the truth

3) Alliences that attempt to control their members

Kalaronians generally agree on both the necessity of government healthcare (owing to their frigid surroundings, help isn't looked down upon necessarily, and health is still considered very important) and a large Military Industrial Complex for their diplomatic and -following the collapse of the ITF- Military needs.

Also owing to their location, Kalaron is a biggly fan of nuclear power. Not a NIMBY to be seen for miles and that's what makes it paradise :D

Where is Kalaron anyway? Im picturing like,,, Antarctica for some reason.

Lavan Tiri

Yiddish Nederland wrote:Where is Kalaron anyway? Im picturing like,,, Antarctica for some reason.

Geographically, on the map we were Australia. In our lore it's like Australia but cold and Boreal.

Lavan Tiri, Yiddish Nederland

Kalaron-A wrote:Geographically, on the map we were Australia. In our lore it's like Australia but cold and Boreal.

A n t a r l i a

Lavan Tiri

Time to change attire for the upcoming holiday. :)

Nuremgard, Lavan Tiri, Mercunova, Spanelsko, The British Islands Confederacy, Midasia, Yiddish Nederland

Post self-deleted by Kalaron-A.

The Issue

For once, a government program has been a hit, with the new YourGov app giving citizens unified access to all their important government services. But some Spanelskoans, concerned with the storage of their personal data on government servers, have decompiled the app. These privacy advocates have discovered that large portions of the code rely on restrictive “copyleft” software libraries written in the United Federation.

“I created those libraries for the good of the world, and you selfish Spanelskoan jerks used them without following the terms!” yells Dirk Grieg, sniffling his nose as he tries to wipe boogers on your table surreptitiously. “It says right here in the software license: all derivative works must be released under the same open-source license, so you’re committing a copyright violation by not giving out your code! Release your code and comply with the license, then maybe, just maybe, I won’t take your government to some international court and sue for everything you’ve got!”

Meanwhile in Iberia= Launch the nukes!

Russkov Soviet, Lavan Tiri

The moment you realise that 10 nations in this region are controlled by Unfallious. That are 18.52%. Almost a fifth.

:O

Nuremgard, Lavan Tiri, Midasia, Yiddish Nederland

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:The moment you realise that 10 nations in this region are controlled by Unfallious. That are 18.52%. Almost a fifth.

:O

LeTs TalK aBoUt tHaT

(Wait nvm we have the same political ideas judging from the main page thingy)

Lavan Tiri

Time has moved so strangely this year. On the one hand, the virus has made this year feel like it has gone on for eternity but on the other hand, time seems to have flown by. It's October tomorrow! Unbelievable.

Bearlong, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova, Midasia, Yiddish Nederland

✨Its Not a Crack House, It's a Crack Home✨

Lavan Tiri, Mercunova

Post self-deleted by Yiddish Nederland.

Nuremgard wrote:Time has moved so strangely this year. On the one hand, the virus has made this year feel like it has gone on for eternity but on the other hand, time seems to have flown by. It's October tomorrow! Unbelievable.

I am still processing the end of February.

Nuremgard, Mercunova, Yiddish Nederland

Nuremgard wrote:Time has moved so strangely this year. On the one hand, the virus has made this year feel like it has gone on for eternity but on the other hand, time seems to have flown by. It's October tomorrow! Unbelievable.

Don't worry Nurem. That was 2020 packing as much of the feeling of time passing in it's thirteenth month as it could.

Nuremgard, Midasia, Yiddish Nederland

What is the standard family unit in your nation? The yiddish view of family includes extended family, freinds and third and fourth cousins. Families are typically very large but not specifically because the parents have a lot of kids- but because they have a lot of freinds that have kids aswell. Multiple generations and sometimes freinds usually live in a house at once. Gay marriage and adoption is legal and has been since the country's founding.

Nuremgard, Lavan Tiri

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