Post Archive

Region: The Confederacy of Free Nations

History

Friedensreich wrote:Take the Little River Band of Ottawa Indians, the reservation run by the tribe that allowed me to go to the casino at 19.

They are allowed to vote (family friend is a member of the tribe, carries the card to it and gets discounts at the casino along with a portion of the casino's profits), despite being members of a reservation. This is due to the Voting Rights Act in 1965 and the blanket granting of US citizenship to Native Americans everywhere in the US (reservations included, as part of the Indian Citizenship Act in 1924).

Links:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Citizenship_Act

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_Rights_Act_of_1965

Friedensreich wrote:Blocking natives on reservations from voting is a value that you admire? Shouldn't everyone within the borders of the state have the same voting power, regardless of their socioeconomic status?

No, because they're not within the borders. I don't think you realize that reservations are their own "nation", where they aren't bound by U.S laws, most notably they can use peyote.

Happy now?

Continental Commonwealths wrote:If four other people endorse this post in the affirmative, the first referendum of the Second Confederacy can be on whether to compel Kal and Sul to flip the design of one of their flags so that they're not exactly the same.

I'm kidding, of course, but srsly you two!

Confederacy Of Free Nations wrote:Rainbow Space Cat Founder endorses on the condition of belly rubs!

*Rubs Tummy*

Oelesa wrote:For real lol. It is bugging me too.

Vista Major wrote:That was yesterday

Sunday is the one day where one should be allowed to let go their social justice tendencies and, as the Lord commands, rest.

I would actually endorse this

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Sulania wrote:Happy now?

*Rubs Tummy*

[B]IT LOOKS WRONG NOW[/B]

Kalaron wrote:[B]IT LOOKS WRONG NOW[/B]

Get over it

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Sulania wrote:Get over it

Only if we cuddle.

Continental Commonwealths wrote:If four other people endorse this post in the affirmative, the first referendum of the Second Confederacy can be on whether to compel Kal and Sul to flip the design of one of their flags so that they're not exactly the same.

I'm kidding, of course, but srsly you two!

Finally somebody said it, I was too afraid ;(

Confederacy Of Free Nations wrote:Rainbow Space Cat Founder endorses on the condition of belly rubs!

*Gibs Rub* Were you a good Feline-God today too?

Killdash wrote:Offfh, I just wiped out my nations entire private sector in one click.

Good job! You're on your way to a socialist Paradise!

Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:Rich people should have more votes. After all, they pay most of the taxes

In America? Baby baby, you're only half right, the Rich here are the only ones that can vote easily, but its the poor that get taxed the most :3

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Auxorii wrote:No, because they're not within the borders. I don't think you realize that reservations are their own "nation", where they aren't bound by U.S laws, most notably they can use peyote.

https://www.quora.com/Can-Native-Americans-living-on-reservations-vote-in-federal-elections

PARLIAMENT NEWS

A new bill is ready for debate by Sulania. Details on the forums.

Penguania And Antarctica

Kalaron wrote:[B]IT LOOKS WRONG NOW[/B]

HUSH. THE PEOPLE AND FOUNDER CAT HAVE SPOKEN

Jaslandia, Friedensreich, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica

Westeros' tax rate is 66.6%

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVSRm80WzZk

Andromitus wrote:*Gibs Rub* Were you a good Feline-God today too?

I brought the magical reign of cookies to the people of Westeros, and then ate all of them. I deserve moar belly rubs!

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Confederacy Of Free Nations wrote:I brought the magical reign of cookies to the people of Westeros, and then ate all of them. I deserve moar belly rubs!

I would gladly help with that, but I don't think you like the feeling of my buffers, so... *Driver grunts, then gets out of Percy's cab and starts giving Magical Space Cat Founder a belly rub*

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:Where do you want me to set it up? On the forums or the RP region?

Posted

Peoples Liberation Republic, Percyton

Friedensreich wrote:https://www.quora.com/Can-Native-Americans-living-on-reservations-vote-in-federal-elections

Again, then can vote just not on the reservation. The great thing about the constitution is that it's a living document.

Auxorii wrote:Again, then can vote just not on the reservation. The great thing about the constitution is that it's a living document.

Obviously not. It took a law, not an amendment, to grant Native Americans citizenship. It took a law, not an amendment, to grant equal voting rights. It took a law, not an amendment, to give Native Americans the right to vote.

Confederacy Of Free Nations wrote:I brought the magical reign of cookies to the people of Westeros, and then ate all of them. I deserve moar belly rubs!

I gib belly rub, but no Pudding Cup!

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

So as to get the Confederate Papers up to date, I'm going to venture and update them to the best of my abilities as Minister of Internal Affairs.

Vista Major, Kalaron, Percyton

Andromitus wrote:I gib belly rub, but no Pudding Cup!

Man, do you want to D I E ?

Jaslandia

Friedensreich wrote:Obviously not. It took a law, not an amendment, to grant Native Americans citizenship. It took a law, not an amendment, to grant equal voting rights. It took a law, not an amendment, to give Native Americans the right to vote.

Uh, yeah. That's because there didn't need to be an amendment.

Kalaron wrote:Man, do you want to D I E ?

*Sweats nervously* I gib two Pudding Cups!

Jaslandia, Percyton

That moment when you fully update the Government factbook, and you realize 6 out of the 9 total government officials listed are members of the DLP.

Jaslandia, Oelesa

Sulania wrote:That moment when you fully update the Government factbook, and you realize 6 out of the 9 total government officials listed are members of the DLP.

Independent FTW!

Jaslandia, Friedensreich

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Independent FTW!

We are the Democratic Liberty Party. Lower your barriers and allow us to board. Your sociological and political distinctiveness will be added to our own. Resistance is futile.

Jaslandia

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Independent FTW!

Honestly better than the two parties in the regional government tbh

Auxorii

Friedensreich wrote:Honestly better than the two parties in the regional government tbh

I have no qualms with the region's political parties or anyone in them. Just not sure what purpose they serve, but as an outsider looking in I'm sure there's more coordination and strategy going on behind the scenes than I'm aware of.

And if they're mobilizing themselves to spur support for certain candidates, legislation, or policies, I don't begrudge them at all. It's what parties do.

Friedensreich, Oelesa

Killdash wrote:Offfh, I just wiped out my nations entire private sector in one click.

Amen

Sulania wrote:So as to get the Confederate Papers up to date, I'm going to venture and update them to the best of my abilities as Minister of Internal Affairs.

Bless you, sweet child

Jaslandia

Continental Commonwealths wrote:I have no qualms with the region's political parties or anyone in them. Just not sure what purpose they serve, but as an outsider looking in I'm sure there's more coordination and strategy going on behind the scenes than I'm aware of.

And if they're mobilizing themselves to spur support for certain candidates, legislation, or policies, I don't begrudge them at all. It's what parties do.

I think I'd prefer it if parties weren't in the region, tbh, but that's probably due to just my general distaste for partisanship.

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Vista Major, Oelesa

I've done some thinking and I think that racists are bad

Vista Major, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

"37 minutes ago: The silver bloods ceased to exist."

RIP Silver. We've been through a lot of ups and down with you, but at the end of the day, you still founded the first NGA that got this whole community started. We wouldn't be here without you.

Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Kalaron wrote:[B]IT LOOKS WRONG NOW[/B]

KalaSulCatPapaCont confirmed; hot orgy imminent

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica

South Hyder wrote:I've done some thinking and I think that racists are bad

Good for you. A little over 70 years late at least, but, better late than never

Jaslandia wrote:"37 minutes ago: The silver bloods ceased to exist."

RIP Silver. We've been through a lot of ups and down with you, but at the end of the day, you still founded the first NGA that got this whole community started. We wouldn't be here without you.

We should have a holiday

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, Percyton

Vista Major wrote:

We should have a holiday

If by 'holiday' you mean 'day of remembrance/mourning', then yes, that would be a good idea.

Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Friedensreich wrote:Take the Little River Band of Ottawa Indians, the reservation run by the tribe that allowed me to go to the casino at 19.

They are allowed to vote (family friend is a member of the tribe, carries the card to it and gets discounts at the casino along with a portion of the casino's profits), despite being members of a reservation. This is due to the Voting Rights Act in 1965 and the blanket granting of US citizenship to Native Americans everywhere in the US (reservations included, as part of the Indian Citizenship Act in 1924).

Little River Band have some great songs man

Jaslandia, Auxorii

PARLIAMENT UPDATE

One bill is up for vote and a new bill by ContCom is up for debate, as well as Vista's amendment and Sul's bill. Don't forget the live discord debates that will be recorded by Kalaron.

Jaslandia, Kalaron, Penguania And Antarctica

Oelesa wrote:PARLIAMENT UPDATE

One bill is up for vote and a new bill by ContCom is up for debate, as well as Vista's amendment and Sul's bill. Don't forget the live discord debates that will be recorded by Kalaron.

I'm back to it, Baby!

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland, Percyton

Kalaron wrote:I'm back to it, Baby!

I'm hoping a lot of people missed the live sessions and we aren't the only ones to show up lol.

Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Oelesa wrote:I'm hoping a lot of people missed the live sessions and we aren't the only ones to show up lol.

Nah, I know a lot of people have missed at least talking in the VC and I feel that the sudden death that happened to the Live sessions was really the cause of that. I figure we'll get a pretty good turnout :D

Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica

Oelesa wrote:I'm hoping a lot of people missed the live sessions and we aren't the only ones to show up lol.

I missed them greatly

Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, The United Providences Of Perland

[spoiler=Today is July 24 and today are:]

Today is July 24 and today are:

- Children's Day (Vanuatu)

- National Amelia Earhart Day (United States)

- National Cousins Day (United States)

- National Drive-Thru Day (United States)

- National Tequila Day (United States)

- National Thermal Engineer Day (United States)

- Navy Day (Venezuela)

- Pioneer Day (Utah, United States)

- Police Day (Poland)

- Simón Bolívar Day (Bolivia, Colombia, Ecuador, Venezuela)

- Tell An Old Joke Day

- The Restoration of Democracy (Greece)

[/spoiler]

[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 1132 – Battle of Nocera between Ranulf II of Alife and Roger II of Sicily.

- 1148 – Louis VII of France lays siege to Damascus during the Second Crusade.

- 1304 – Wars of Scottish Independence: Fall of Stirling Castle: King Edward I of England takes the stronghold using the War Wolf.

- 1411 – Battle of Harlaw, one of the bloodiest battles in Scotland, takes place.

- 1487 – Citizens of Leeuwarden, Netherlands strike against a ban on foreign beer.

- 1534 – French explorer Jacques Cartier plants a cross on the Gaspé Peninsula and takes possession of the territory in the name of Francis I of France.

- 1567 – Mary, Queen of Scots, is forced to abdicate and replaced by her 1-year-old son James VI.

- 1701 – Antoine de la Mothe Cadillac founds the trading post at Fort Pontchartrain, which later becomes the city of Detroit.

- 1783 – The Kingdom of Georgia and the Russian Empire sign the Treaty of Georgievsk.

- 1814 – War of 1812: General Phineas Riall advances toward the Niagara River to halt Jacob Brown's American invaders.

- 1823 – Slavery is abolished in Chile.

- 1823 – In Maracaibo, Venezuela the naval Battle of Lake Maracaibo takes place, where Admiral José Prudencio Padilla, defeats the Spanish Navy, thus culminating the independence for the Gran Colombia.

- 1847 – After 17 months of travel, Brigham Young leads 148 Mormon pioneers into Salt Lake Valley, resulting in the establishment of Salt Lake City.

- 1847 - Richard March Hoe, American inventor, patented the rotary-type printing press.

- 1864 – American Civil War: Battle of Kernstown: Confederate General Jubal Early defeats Union troops led by General George Crook in an effort to keep them out of the Shenandoah Valley.

- 1866 – Reconstruction: Tennessee becomes the first U.S. state to be readmitted to the Union following the American Civil War.

- 1901 – O. Henry is released from prison in Columbus, Ohio after serving three years for embezzlement from a bank.

- 1910 – The Ottoman Empire captures the city of Shkodër, putting down the Albanian Revolt of 1910.

- 1911 – Hiram Bingham III re-discovers Machu Picchu, "the Lost City of the Incas".

- 1915 – The passenger ship S.S. Eastland capsizes while tied to a dock in the Chicago River. A total of 844 passengers and crew are killed in the largest loss of life disaster from a single shipwreck on the Great Lakes.

- 1922 – The draft of the British Mandate of Palestine was formally confirmed by the Council of the League of Nations; it came into effect on 26 September 1923.

- 1923 – The Treaty of Lausanne, settling the boundaries of modern Turkey, is signed in Switzerland by Greece, Bulgaria and other countries that fought in World War I.

- 1924 – Themistoklis Sofoulis becomes Prime Minister of Greece.

- 1927 – The Menin Gate war memorial is unveiled at Ypres.

- 1929 – The Kellogg–Briand Pact, renouncing war as an instrument of foreign policy, goes into effect (it is first signed in Paris on August 27, 1928 by most leading world powers).

- 1935 – The Dust Bowl heat wave reaches its peak, sending temperatures to 109 °F (43 °C) in Chicago and 104 °F (40 °C) in Milwaukee.

- 1937 – Alabama drops rape charges against the "Scottsboro Boys".

- 1943 – World War II: Operation Gomorrah begins: British and Canadian aeroplanes bomb Hamburg by night, and American planes by day. By the end of the operation in November, 9,000 tons of explosives will have killed more than 30,000 people and destroyed 280,000 buildings.

- 1950 – Cape Canaveral Air Force Station begins operations with the launch of a Bumper rocket.

- 1959 – At the opening of the American National Exhibition in Moscow, U.S. Vice President Richard Nixon and Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev have a "Kitchen Debate".

- 1963 – The ship Bluenose II was launched in Lunenburg, Nova Scotia. The schooner is a major Canadian symbol.

- 1966 – Michael Pelkey makes the first BASE jump from El Capitan along with Brian Schubert. Both came out with broken bones. BASE jumping has now been banned from El Cap.

- 1967 – During an official state visit to Canada, French President Charles de Gaulle declares to a crowd of over 100,000 in Montreal: Vive le Québec libre! ("Long live free Quebec!"); the statement angered the Canadian government and many Anglophone Canadians.

- 1969 – Apollo program: Apollo 11 splashes down safely in the Pacific Ocean.

- 1974 – Watergate scandal: The United States Supreme Court unanimously ruled that President Richard Nixon did not have the authority to withhold subpoenaed White House tapes and they order him to surrender the tapes to the Watergate special prosecutor.

- 1977 – End of a four-day-long Libyan–Egyptian War.

- 1980 – The Quietly Confident Quartet of Australia wins the Men's 4 x 100 metre medley relay at the Moscow Olympics, the only time the United States has not won the event at Olympic level.

- 1982 – Heavy rain causes a mudslide that destroys a bridge at Nagasaki, Japan, killing 299.

- 1983 – The Black July anti-Tamil riots begin in Sri Lanka, killing between 400 and 3,000. Black July is generally regarded as the beginning of the Sri Lankan Civil War.

- 1983 – George Brett batting for the Kansas City Royals against the New York Yankees, has a game-winning home run nullified in the "Pine Tar Incident".

- 1987 - Hulda Crooks, at 91 years of age, climbed Mt. Fuji. Hulda became the oldest person to climb Japan’s highest peak.

- 1998 – Russell Eugene Weston, Jr. bursts into the United States Capitol and opens fire killing two police officers. He is later ruled to be incompetent to stand trial.

- 2001 – Simeon Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, the last Tsar of Bulgaria when he was a child, is sworn in as Prime Minister of Bulgaria, becoming the first monarch in history to regain political power through democratic election to a different office.

- 2001 – Bandaranaike Airport attack is carried out by 14 Tamil Tiger commandos, all died in this attack. They destroyed 11 Aircraft (mostly military) and damaged 15, there are no civilian casualties. This incident slowed down Sri Lankan economy.

- 2011 – Digital switchover is completed in 44 of the 47 prefectures of Japan, with Iwate, Miyagi, and Fukushima television stations terminating analog broadcasting operations later as a result of the Tōhoku earthquake.

- 2013 – A high-speed train derails in Spain rounding a curve with an 80 km/h (50 mph) speed limit at 190 km/h (120 mph), killing 78 passengers.

- 2014 – Air Algérie Flight 5017 loses contact with air traffic controllers 50 minutes after takeoff. It was travelling between Ouagadougou, Burkina Faso and Algiers with 116 people on board. The wreckage is later found in Mali.

[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1783 – Simón Bolívar, Venezuelan commander and politician, 2nd President of Venezuela

- 1802 – Alexandre Dumas, French novelist and playwright

- 1847 – Margarete Steiff, German seamstress making toy stuffed animals, founded Margarete Steiff GmbH

- 1857 – Henrik Pontoppidan, Danish journalist and author, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1864 – Frank Wedekind, German actor and playwright

- 1897 – Amelia Earhart, American pilot and author

- 1900 – Zelda Fitzgerald, American author and poet

- 1963 – Karl Malone, American basketball player and coach

- 1969 – Jennifer Lopez, American actress, singer, and dancer

- 1982 – Anna Paquin, Canadian-New Zealand actress

[/spoiler]

Quote of the day

Life’s tragedy is that we get old too soon and wise too late.

- Benjamin Franklin -

Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Oelesa, The United Providences Of Perland, Yukona, Percyton

My poor's income keeps going down but my taxes keep going up.....:(

Peoples Liberation Republic, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Nuremgard wrote:My poor's income keeps going down but my taxes keep going up.....:(

Funny, I keep taxing less and less and my equality has actually balanced out

Nuremgard

Hey, the Vatican City bounced back - any ideas for the next poll? I was thinking major unrecognised states (there may be too many) or maybe something historical like favourite Warsaw Pact country?

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton, United Continental States

Kalaron wrote:Hey now, the max financial punishment was just 250K :P

No but really though what a terrible bill.

"Violations would be punishable by a civil penalty that could reach $250,000 and a maximum criminal penalty of $1 million and 20 years in prison."

Mesopotamia-Kurdistan wrote:"Violations would be punishable by a civil penalty that could reach $250,000 and a maximum criminal penalty of $1 million and 20 years in prison."

It's cute that people still think we actually use the 1st Amendment. Don't they realize the 1st Amendment and 14th Amendment became a thing of the past during the Bush Jr. years?

Yukona wrote:Hey, the Vatican City bounced back - any ideas for the next poll? I was thinking major unrecognised states (there may be too many) or maybe something historical like favourite Warsaw Pact country?

What about favourite historical empire or monarch?

Nuremgard wrote:What about favourite historical empire or monarch?

So many options, not really possible - I'd have to list every empire and monarch to have existed

Friedensreich wrote:It's cute that people still think we actually use the 1st Amendment. Don't they realize the 1st Amendment and 14th Amendment became a thing of the past during the Bush Jr. years?

And don't forget about the 4th Amendment too!

Friedensreich

Yukona wrote:So many options, not really possible - I'd have to list every empire and monarch to have existed

Not really. Just really great or significant ones.

Nuremgard wrote:Not really. Just really great or significant ones.

German Empire or no Empire

Nuremgard, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

Friedensreich wrote:German Empire or no Empire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhqxEOoRxfI

Nuremgard wrote:Not really. Just really great or significant ones.

How do you decide major ones? You'd still have at least 30 great monarchs and if not more great empires, unless we limit ourselves to dominant European powers.

Yukona wrote:How do you decide major ones? You'd still have at least 30 great monarchs and if not more great empires, unless we limit ourselves to dominant European powers.

How about 2 European empires, 2 Middle Eastern empires and 2 far Far Eastern ones?

Nuremgard wrote:How about 2 European empires, 2 Middle Eastern empires and 2 far Far Eastern ones?

Eeeeeh, it would mean selecting only two of each and that in itself would be my own bias infringing on the result - it'd be fine to do one poll for each area.

Yukona wrote:Eeeeeh, it would mean selecting only two of each and that in itself would be my own bias infringing on the result - it'd be fine to do one poll for each area.

Well whatever you want. Was just brainstorming.

Yukona

Favorite Star Wars planet

Russkov Soviet, Sulania, Penguania And Antarctica

Favourite Star Trek captain

Russkov Soviet, Vista Major, Kalaron

Favourite Game of Thrones House.

Russkov Soviet, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

hello

Vista Major, Andromitus, Yukona, Percyton, United Continental States

Nuremgard wrote:Favourite Game of Thrones House.

Stark always man

Nuremgard, Vista Major

Favourite Kalaronian Military design ;p

Nah, I'm just kiddin'.

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Favourite Star Trek captain

Favorite Star Trek "Empire" including the Federation.

Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

Kalaron wrote:Favourite Kalaronian Military design ;p

Nah, I'm just kiddin'.

Favorite Star Trek "Empire" including the Federation.

I second that :)

Kalaron

Nuremgard wrote:Favourite Game of Thrones House.

A Lannister always pays his debts

South Hyder wrote:Stark always man

Targaryen for me. Fire & Blood!

Vista Major wrote:A Lannister always pays his debts

I thought that someone like you would support deficit spending.

Vista Major

Mesopotamia-Kurdistan wrote:I thought that someone like you would support deficit spending.

Only a handful of nations run surpluses. Having a deficit is normal for a country and can even be beneficial.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johntharvey/2012/07/18/why-you-should-love-government-deficits/#27c120e1570a

Jaslandia, Vista Major

Yukona wrote:Eeeeeh, it would mean selecting only two of each and that in itself would be my own bias infringing on the result - it'd be fine to do one poll for each area.

Hey, Yuk. What's with the picture of Charles I?

Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:Favourite Game of Thrones House.

Iron From Ice 4 Life

Nuremgard, Kalaron

Nuremgard wrote:Only a handful of nations run surpluses. Having a deficit is normal for a country and can even be beneficial.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johntharvey/2012/07/18/why-you-should-love-government-deficits/#27c120e1570a

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GD6qtc2_AQA/maxresdefault.jpg

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Sulania wrote:Iron From Ice 4 Life

They sucked. Sorry but they did. They are doomed to failure because we know how the story turns out thus far.

Nuremgard wrote:Favourite Game of Thrones House.

Targaryen

Nuremgard

Friedensreich wrote:Targaryen

All hail Daenerys Targaryen, First of Her Name, Queen of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm!

Vista Major

Nuremgard wrote:Only a handful of nations run surpluses. Having a deficit is normal for a country and can even be beneficial.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johntharvey/2012/07/18/why-you-should-love-government-deficits/#27c120e1570a

https://media.tenor.com/images/e1c2695cc52dd118b537676b347a1c13/tenor.gif

Mesopotamia-Kurdistan wrote:I thought that someone like you would support deficit spending.

Oh, you poor, unfortunate soul

Nuremgard wrote:All hail Daenerys Targaryen, First of Her Name, Queen of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm!

heil

Vista Major wrote:Oh, you poor, unfortunate soul

What makes me so unfortunate?

Yukona wrote:Little River Band have some great songs man

My girlfriend loves that band.

Jaslandia, Yukona

Nuremgard wrote:Hey, Yuk. What's with the picture of Charles I?

Him and his son are my two favourite kings

Debate and vote...Debate and Vote....Debate and Vote

Click Parliament on the WFE.

Vista Major, Andromitus

Oelesa wrote:I'm hoping a lot of people missed the live sessions and we aren't the only ones to show up lol.

I'm sorry, I'm currently abroad and I can't VC in the slightest :3

Peoples Revolutionary Grenada wrote:hello

Hey there sleepy head, how've you been?

Jaslandia, Percyton

Yukona wrote:Him and his son are my two favourite kings

Why?

Andromitus wrote:I'm sorry, I'm currently abroad and I can't VC in the slightest :3

You can type.

3:30pm EST for Sul's bill. 4:30pm EST for Vista's

Vista Major, United Continental States

Nuremgard wrote:My poor's income keeps going down but my taxes keep going up.....:(

Have you tried capitalism™️

Jaslandia

South Hyder wrote:Have you tried capitalism™️

Nuremgard is capitalist.

Nuremgard wrote:Nuremgard is capitalist.

You aren't capitalisming right, your income tax is almost 90%, try 5%

Jaslandia, Auxorii, United Continental States

South Hyder wrote:You aren't capitalisming right, your income tax is almost 90%, try 5%

No. Cutting taxes and taking pro-market decisions decreases the poor's income.

Nuremgard wrote:Why?

I like his history, I think he looks cool, I think he's better than Cromwell.

Jaslandia

South Hyder wrote:You aren't capitalisming right, your income tax is almost 90%, try 5%

Mine was 60% and I've gotten it down to 38%.

Nuremgard wrote:No. Cutting taxes and taking pro-market decisions decreases the poor's income.

...

Yukona wrote:I like his history, I think he looks cool, I think he's better than Cromwell.

Fair enough. I have a history book about Scottish kings and it goes right up to the Act of Union so it talked about Charles and his son. Interesting history. Charles II didn't like the Scots or Scotland because they handed his father over to Cromwell. And Charles II was mistreated by Scots during his exile up here.

Jaslandia

Auxorii wrote:Mine was 60% and I've gotten it down to 38%.

...

That's what happens in NS.

Nuremgard wrote:Fair enough. I have a history book about Scottish kings and it goes right up to the Act of Union so it talked about Charles and his son. Interesting history. Charles II didn't like the Scots or Scotland because they handed his father over to Cromwell. And Charles II was mistreated by Scots during his exile up here.

I know. Charles II is my favourite but his dad looks cooler, to be honest. He was more tolerant, loved to have a good time and was just - what I imagine - a lovely chap. I'm a strong Jacobite, anyway.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Yukona wrote:I know. Charles II is my favourite but his dad looks cooler, to be honest. He was more tolerant, loved to have a good time and was just - what I imagine - a lovely chap. I'm a strong Jacobite, anyway.

Same here. I'm a total Jacobite. Wish James VII had beat back William of Orange.

Auxorii, Yukona

Nuremgard wrote:Same here. I'm a total Jacobite. Wish James VII had beat back William of Orange.

Mmm

Was the establishment of a Foreign Affairs Council legitimized through a constitution interpretation granting the government the creation of it, or at least passed through a vote?

The United Providences Of Perland

Auxorii wrote:Mmm

I'd have supported all the Jacobite claimants. As far as I'm concerned, the Dutchman and the Germans thereafter were foreign usurpers.

Nuremgard wrote:Same here. I'm a total Jacobite. Wish James VII had beat back William of Orange.

Yep, sad times. Personally I believe the Stuarts to be the rightful holders of the British throne - it would have also stopped a lot of problems we have nowadays.

Nuremgard

Yukona wrote:Yep, sad times. Personally I believe the Stuarts to be the rightful holders of the British throne - it would have also stopped a lot of problems we have nowadays.

The Stuarts are seen as incompetent tyrants but they were advocates of religious freedom. Plus, Bonnie Prince Charlie said he would dissolve the Union. I personally believe this to be a lie. He only said it to shore up more Scottish support and the Union was still fresh and hated in the minds of many Scots. He would have changed his tune had he reclaimed the throne. The Stuarts had wanted Union since James VI.

Yukona

Nuremgard wrote:The Stuarts are seen as incompetent tyrants but they were advocates of religious freedom. Plus, Bonnie Prince Charlie said he would dissolve the Union. I personally believe this to be a lie. He only said it to shore up more Scottish support and the Union was still fresh and hated in the minds of many Scots. He would have changed his tune had he reclaimed the throne. The Stuarts had wanted Union since James VI.

True, obviously that makes me not love him any less.

Yukona wrote:True, obviously that makes me not love him any less.

Naturally. Despite them being unionists at heart, I would have still supported the Stuarts because they were a Scottish dynasty, they claimed both thrones legitimately through James VI, they were for religious toleration and they were (at least in James VII and his heirs' case) Catholics. Plus, they were for the divine right of kings and even though I am all for democracy and republicanism and such, divine right of kings is just cool lol. Absolute monarchs get things done faster than squabbling parliaments.

Yukona

Nuremgard wrote:Naturally. Despite them being unionists at heart, I would have still supported the Stuarts because they were a Scottish dynasty, they claimed both thrones legitimately through James VI, they were for religious toleration and they were (at least in James VII and his heirs' case) Catholics. Plus, they were for the divine right of kings and even though I am all for democracy and republicanism and such, divine right of kings is just cool lol. Absolute monarchs get things done faster than squabbling parliaments.

I'm so glad my area and local castle was a cavalier stronghold. Such a shame they ruined Sherborne and Corfe, two amazing stories. Fairfax was just too good for us, I'm glad he saw through Cromwell.

Nuremgard

Assembled with Dot's Region Saver.
Written by Refuge Isle.