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Yukona wrote:It's weird how nationalist groups always have wannabes leading them, IIRC there was one in Greece that was led by a invalid Turk who didn't even speak Greek.

Also, many fascists sport that silly mustache. Hitler, Franco, Moseley. Look at the SS too. Full of butch, broad blonde haired boys, the supposed master race. Led by short, dark haired, sniveling little sh!ts like Himmler. Fascists, deep down, are always inadequate and insecure.

Jaslandia, Peoples Liberation Republic, Axeldonia

Nuremgard wrote:What is the primary objective of syndicalist economics?

The primary objective of syndicalist economies is to improve workers' rights by giving them control over the means of production through horizontally-organized unions.

Nuremgard, Axeldonia

Jaslandia wrote:Also, from the link, Siol nan Gaidheal mentions 'English people resident in Scotland will integrate into and make a full contribution to the community of Scotland'. How exactly would an English person 'integrate' into Scotland? Would they demand that immigrants from London start wearing kilts and punching people (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ViolentGlaswegian)? Would Geordies need to eat a dinner of haggis in order to get citizenship? I'm not saying Scotland has no culture, I just wasn't aware that Scotland and England are so dissimilar as to require 'integration' into one another.

I don't think the English need to integrate. England and Scotland's peoples are broadly similar though I do believe Scots are more left of centre than the English. However, I'd say any English living up here have become part of Scottish society quite seamlessly. Let's not forget that it was the English and foreign residents that carried the No vote in Scotland. Most native born Scots voted Yes to independence.

This is a barrier nobody in the Yes movement wants to talk about because they're scared of being labeled as anti-English. But we'll never achieve independence unless we can somehow get the English up here on side. But I don't see them voting Yes in great numbers next time. They have a pretty sweet deal up here. They have all the advantages of living in Scotland but are still able to retain their political and cultural connection to the motherland. Why would they want to sever Scotland from the UK? They have a vested interest in maintaining the Union.

Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:I don't think the English need to integrate. England and Scotland's peoples are broadly similar though I do believe Scots are more left of centre than the English. However, I'd say any English living up here have become part of Scottish society quite seamlessly. Let's not forget that it was the English and foreign residents that carried the No vote in Scotland. Most native born Scots voted Yes to independence.

This is a barrier nobody in the Yes movement wants to talk about because they're scared of being labeled as anti-English. But we'll never achieve independence unless we can somehow get the English up here on side. But I don't see them voting Yes in great numbers next time. They have a pretty sweet deal up here. They have all the advantages of living in Scotland but are still able to retain their political and cultural connection to the motherland. Why would they want to sever Scotland from the UK? They have a vested interest in maintaining the Union.

That's true, though it could always be worse, could need a yes vote from London :p

Nuremgard

Kalaron wrote:That's true, though it could always be worse, could need a yes vote from London :p

I often see commenters in England whine that they wish they could vote to kick Scotland out of the UK. How I wish that were possible!

Ludania, Lex Caledonia

Hello everyone :D

Jaslandia

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Hello everyone :D

How's you, Peng?

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:How's you, Peng?

Me is doing alright. Not much to report on my end. How are you? :)

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Me is doing alright. Not much to report on my end. How are you? :)

I'm doing okay. Just been revising for my history exam tomorrow.

Hey, Peng, I wanted to ask. Does the German constitution separate church and state?

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:I often see commenters in England whine that they wish they could vote to kick Scotland out of the UK. How I wish that were possible!
going off comments on social media is absolutely as useless as it is mind numbing, if that actually held any relevance you should have seen the pro-independence ones

I am pretty low on the scientific advancement scale

Yukona wrote:going off comments on social media is absolutely as useless as it is mind numbing, if that actually held any relevance you should have seen the pro-independence ones

I'm just saying there are those who bitterly complain about Scotland but when we try to leave, become all offended that we are trying to leave and insist we wont survive without their largesse.

Axeldonia

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Nuremgard wrote:I'm doing okay. Just been revising for my history exam tomorrow.

Hey, Peng, I wanted to ask. Does the German constitution separate church and state?

Yes.

Basic Law for the Federal Republic of German - Article 140 [Law of religious denominations]

"The provisions of Articles 136, 137, 138, 139 and 141 of the German Constitution of 11 August 1919 shall be an integral part of this Basic Law."

And Article 137 of the "Weimar" Constitution says:

"Article 137

(1) There is no state church.

(2) The freedom to form religious communities is guaranteed. The formation of associations of religous communities is possible.

(3) Every religious community orders and administers their affairs on their own within the legal boundaries. They grant offices without influence by the state or public communities.

(4) Religious communities gain legal capacity under the general provisions of the civil law.

[...]"

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:I'm just saying there are those who bitterly complain about Scotland but when we try to leave, become all offended that we are trying to leave and insist we wont survive without their largesse.

And it goes the other way as well lol, using it as any kind of supporting factor is ridiculous

Lex Caledonia

Yukona wrote:And it goes the other way as well lol, using it as any kind of supporting factor is ridiculous

Yeah, there can be arseholes on both sides, the best thing to do is to talk to one another and debate with rationality. Not go online and be like NASTY NAT/YUCKY YOON etc.

Nuremgard, Axeldonia, Yukona

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Yes.

Basic Law for the Federal Republic of German - Article 140 [Law of religious denominations]

"The provisions of Articles 136, 137, 138, 139 and 141 of the German Constitution of 11 August 1919 shall be an integral part of this Basic Law".

And Article 137 of the "Weimar" Constitution says:

"Article 137

(1) There is no state church.

(2)The freedom to form religious communities is guaranteed. The formation of associations of religous communities is possible.

(3)Every religious community orders and administers their affairs on their own within the legal boundaries. They grant offices without influence by the state or public communities.

(4)Religious communities gain legal capacity under the general provisions of the civil law.

[...]"

Interesting. The reason I ask is how is a party like the CDU able to govern without violating this separation of church and state?

Yukona wrote:And it goes the other way as well lol, using it as any kind of supporting factor is ridiculous

True. Comments on papers just piss me off in general lol

Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Nuremgard wrote:Interesting. The reason I ask is how is a party like the CDU able to govern without violating this separation of church and state?

Well, in which way are they violating this seperation?

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Well, in which way are they violating this seperation?

I'm not saying they are. It's just slightly confusing because they are obviously a religious party, or religion does inform some of their policies surely? E.g. Merkel's opposition to gay marriage is due to her Christian beliefs.

Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

Yukona wrote:And it goes the other way as well lol, using it as any kind of supporting factor is ridiculous

I saw a comment earlier which basically said "Northern Ireland should be forcibly removed from the UK." Now, I admit I would like to see Ireland unified someday, but that comment was just dickish. (And coming from me, that's saying something!)

Northern Irish unionists have such a deep, passionate unrequited love for the UK. Kinda' sad really.

Nuremgard wrote:I'm not saying they are. It's just slightly confusing because they are obviously a religious party, or religion does inform some of their policies surely? E.g. Merkel's opposition to gay marriage is due to her Christian beliefs.

Well, they bear Christianity in their name and they pursue Christian values (which nearly every modern western human being pursues since our moder values derived from Christianity).

You can be a Muslism, Jew, Buddhist, Hindu, etc. or atheist and become a member of the CDU. Being Christian isn't required.

The CDU is "open for everyone who accepts dignity, liberty and equality of all humans". (Quote from their basic party programme)

Nuremgard, Cesorion

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Well, they bear Christianity in their name and they pursue Christian values (which nearly every modern western human being pursues since our moder values derived from Christianity).

You can be a Muslism, Jew, Buddhist, Hindu, etc. or atheist and become a member of the CDU. Being Christian isn't required.

The CDU is "open for everyone who accepts dignity, liberty and equality of all humans". (Quote from their basic party programme)

Open to everyone who accepts dingity, liberty and equality of all humans - except homosexuals. They shouldn't get married because straights are more equal to them.

Axeldonia

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Well, they bear Christianity in their name and they pursue Christian values (which nearly every modern western human being pursues since our moder values derived from Christianity).

You can be a Muslism, Jew, Buddhist, Hindu, etc. or atheist and become a member of the CDU. Being Christian isn't required.

The CDU is "open for everyone who accepts dignity, liberty and equality of all humans". (Quote from their basic party programme)

The Dutch CDA (Christian Democratic Appeal) is the first party to include MPs from religious minrities. It is a carbon copy of CDU

Nuremgard

Nuremgard

Nuremgard wrote:Open to everyone who accepts dingity, liberty and equality of all humans - except homosexuals. They shouldn't get married because straights are more equal to them.

Man, they are still conservatives.

Nuremgard

Nuremgard wrote:Open to everyone who accepts dingity, liberty and equality of all humans - except homosexuals. They shouldn't get married because straights are more equal to them.

She actually allowed conscious vote for her MPs. Many voted yes, and I think it passed. So there is a bit of a difference between party values and Merkel values

Nuremgard, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Man, they are still conservatives.

And Cons are the same the world over.

Cesorion wrote:She actually allowed conscious vote for her MPs. Many voted yes, and I think it passed. So there is a bit of a difference between party values and Merkel values

Indeed. I was simply pointing out the irony that the party is supposed to stand for equality - except when it doesn't.

Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:And Cons are the same the world over.

Indeed. I was simply pointing out the irony that the party is supposed to stand for equality - except when it doesn't.

"All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others."

Nuremgard, Axeldonia

Man, reading about the situation of LGBTIQ people always just leaves me depressed.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:I'm not saying they are. It's just slightly confusing because they are obviously a religious party, or religion does inform some of their policies surely? E.g. Merkel's opposition to gay marriage is due to her Christian beliefs.

Just because they derive their value system from Christianity doesn't mean they're violating the separation of church and state. They're still separate even if the Chancellor justifies her disagreement of homosexual marriage on religious grounds.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Unfallious wrote:Just because they derive their value system from Christianity doesn't mean they're violating the separation of church and state. They're still separate even if the Chancellor justifies her disagreement of homosexual marriage on religious grounds.

Nuremgard

Article 4 of the Basic Law - [Freedom of faith and conscience]

"(1) Freedom of faith and of conscience, and freedom to profess a religious or philosophical creed, shall be inviolable.

[...]"

She can believe what she wants like everyone else can do.

Nuremgard

Nuremgard wrote:And Cons are the same the world over.

Indeed. I was simply pointing out the irony that the party is supposed to stand for equality - except when it doesn't.

That is why I self identify as Progressive Conservative

Check the former Canadian political party with the name. Sounded quite like me

Nuremgard, Vista Major

Jaslandia wrote:Happy early birthday, Fuhr!

Its not December 1st and please don't call me fuhr you make me seem like hitler my nation name is literally my last name nationized Führmann to Fuhrmania

Jaslandia

Fuhrmania wrote:Its not December 1st. And please don't call me fuhr, you make me seem like hitler.My nation name is literally my last name nationized Führmann to Fuhrmania

OK

Speech Periods help

Jaslandia

Axeldonia wrote:Man, reading about the situation of LGBTIQ people always just leaves me depressed.

Things are getting better (in the western world at least, or some parts of it anyway.) We still have a long way to go.

Jaslandia, Axeldonia

New Salvatore relaxes its surveillance of citizens, resulting in anti-government websites popping up. This reduces tourism.

Tourist: Oh, no. They don't watch their citizen's every move. I'm not going there on holiday anymore. Not authoritarian enough for me. *looks at a pamphlet for Nazi Germany, humming with interest*

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Cesorion

Nuremgard wrote:New Salvatore relaxes its surveillance of citizens, resulting in anti-government websites popping up. This reduces tourism.

Tourist: Oh, no. They don't watch their citizen's every move. I'm not going there on holiday anymore. Not authoritarian enough for me. *looks at a pamphlet for Nazi Germany, humming with interest*

sorry sir I can't get you quotes for flights to Nazi Germany on the basis that it hasn't been a state for like 70 years. May I suggest North Korea?

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Unfallious wrote:sorry sir I can't get you quotes for flights to Nazi Germany on the basis that it hasn't been a state for like 70 years. May I suggest North Korea?

"That's the Asian state with the fat Kim fellow isn't it? He puts his people in concentration camps? Jolly good. We''l take those tickets."

Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

[spoiler=Today is November 29 and today are:]

Today is November 29 and today are:

- Electronic Greeting Card Day

- International Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian People (United Nations)

- Liberation Day or Dita e Çlirimit (Albania)

- National Package Protection Day (United States)

- Republic Day (Yugoslavia)

- Rockefeller Center Tree Lighting

- Square Dancing Day

- Unity Day (Vanuatu)

- William Tubman's Birthday (Liberia)

[/spoiler]

[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 0561 – King Chlothar I dies at Compiègne. The Merovingian dynasty is continued by his four sons, Charibert I, Guntram, Sigebert I and Chilperic I, who divide the Frankish Kingdom.

- 0618 – The Tang dynasty scores a decisive victory over their rival Xue Rengao at the Battle of Qianshuiyuan.

- 0903 – The Abbasid army under Muhammad ibn Sulayman al-Katib deals a crushing defeat to the Qarmatians at the Battle of Hama.

- 1394 – The Korean king Yi Seong-gye, founder of the Joseon dynasty, moves the capital from Kaesŏng to Hanyang, today known as Seoul.

- 1549 – The papal conclave of 1549–50 begins.

- 1612 – The Battle of Swally takes place, which loosens the Portuguese Empire's hold on India.

- 1729 – Natchez Indians massacre 138 Frenchmen, 35 French women, and 56 children at Fort Rosalie, near the site of modern-day Natchez, Mississippi.

- 1776 – American Revolutionary War: The Battle of Fort Cumberland, Nova Scotia, comes to an end with the arrival of British reinforcements.

- 1777 – San Jose, California, is founded as Pueblo de San José de Guadalupe by José Joaquín Moraga. It is the first civilian settlement, or pueblo, in Alta California.

- 1781 – The crew of the British slave ship Zong murders 133 Africans by dumping them into the sea to claim insurance.

- 1783 – A 5.3 magnitude earthquake strikes New Jersey.

- 1807 – Transfer of the Portuguese Court to Brazil: John VI of Portugal flees Lisbon from advancing Napoleonic forces during the Peninsular War, transferring the Portuguese court to Brazil.

- 1830 – November Uprising: An armed rebellion against Russia's rule in Poland begins.

- 1847 – The Sonderbund is defeated by the joint forces of other Swiss cantons under General Guillaume-Henri Dufour.

- 1847 – Whitman massacre: Missionaries Dr. Marcus Whitman, his wife Narcissa, and 15 others are killed by Cayuse and Umatilla Indians, causing the Cayuse War.

- 1850 – The treaty, Punctation of Olmütz, is signed in Olomouc. Prussia capitulates to Austria, which will take over the leadership of the German Confederation.

- 1864 – American Indian Wars: Sand Creek massacre: Colorado volunteers led by Colonel John Chivington massacre at least 150 Cheyenne and Arapaho noncombatants inside Colorado Territory.

- 1864 – American Civil War: Battle of Spring Hill: The Confederate Army of Tennessee misses an opportunity to crush the Army of the Ohio.

- 1872 – American Indian Wars: The Modoc War begins with the Battle of Lost River.

- 1877 – Thomas Edison demonstrates his phonograph for the first time.

- 1890 – The Meiji Constitution goes into effect in Japan, and the first Diet convenes.

- 1902 – The Pittsburgh Stars defeated the Philadelphia Athletics, 11–0 to win the first championship associated with an American national professional football league.

- 1929 – U.S. Admiral Richard E. Byrd leads the first expedition to fly over the South Pole.

- 1943 – World War II: The second session of the Anti-Fascist Council for the National Liberation of Yugoslavia (AVNOJ), held to determine the post-war ordering of the country, concludes in Jajce (present-day Bosnia and Herzegovina).

- 1944 – World War II: Albania is liberated by the Partisans.

- 1945 – The Federal People's Republic of Yugoslavia is declared.

- 1947 – Partition Plan: The United Nations General Assembly approves a plan for the partition of Palestine.

- 1947 – First Indochina War: French forces carry out a massacre at Mỹ Trạch, Vietnam.

- 1952 – Korean War: U.S. President-elect Dwight D. Eisenhower fulfills a campaign promise by traveling to Korea to find out what can be done to end the conflict.

- 1961 – Project Mercury: Mercury-Atlas 5 Mission: Enos, a chimpanzee, is launched into space. The spacecraft orbits the Earth twice and splashes down off the coast of Puerto Rico.

- 1963 – U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson establishes the Warren Commission to investigate the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

- 1963 – Trans-Canada Air Lines Flight 831 crashes shortly after takeoff from Montreal-Dorval International Airport, killing all 118 people on board.

- 1967 – Vietnam War: U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara announces his resignation.

- 1972 – Atari releases Pong, the first commercially successful video game.

- 1986 – The Surinamese military attacks the village of Moiwana during the Suriname Guerrilla War, killing at least 39 civilians, mostly women and children.

- 1987 – North Korean agents plant a bomb on Korean Air Flight 858, which kills all 115 passengers and crew.

- 2007 – The Armed Forces of the Philippines lay siege to the Peninsula Manila after soldiers led by Senator Antonio Trillanes stage a mutiny.

- 2009 – Maurice Clemmons shoots and kills four police officers inside a coffee shop in Lakewood, Washington.

[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1427 - Zhengtong Emperor of China

- 1797 - Gaetano Donizetti, Italian composer

- 1802 - Wilhelm Hauff, German poet and author

- 1803 - Gottfried Semper, German architect and academic, designed the Semper Opera House

- 1803 - Christian Doppler, Austrian mathematician and physicist

- 1835 - Empress Dowager Cixi of China

- 1874 - Egas Moniz, Portuguese physician and neurologist, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1891 - Julius Raab, Austrian engineer and politician, 19th Chancellor of Austria

- 1895 - William Tubman, Liberian lawyer and politician, 19th President of Liberia

- 1898 - C. S. Lewis, British novelist, poet, and critic

- 1908 - Kurt H. Debus, German V-2 rocket scientist, 1st of NASA's Kennedy Space Center

- 1932 - Jacques Chirac, French soldier and politician, 22nd President of France

- 1946 - Silvio Rodríguez, Cuban singer-songwriter and guitarist

- 1947 - Petra Kelly, German activist and politician

- 1954 - Joel Coen, American director, producer, and screenwriter

- 1964 - Don Cheadle, American actor and producer

- 1969 - Mariano Rivera, Panamanian-American baseball player

[/spoiler]

Quote of the day

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.

- Winston Churchill -

Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Vista Major, Cesorion

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:[spoiler=Today is November 29 and today are:]

Today is November 29 and today are:

- Electronic Greeting Card Day

- International Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian People (United Nations)

- Liberation Day or Dita e Çlirimit (Albania)

- National Package Protection Day (United States)

- Republic Day (Yugoslavia)

- Rockefeller Center Tree Lighting

- Square Dancing Day

- Unity Day (Vanuatu)

- William Tubman's Birthday (Liberia)

[/spoiler]

[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 0561 – King Chlothar I dies at Compiègne. The Merovingian dynasty is continued by his four sons, Charibert I, Guntram, Sigebert I and Chilperic I, who divide the Frankish Kingdom.

- 0618 – The Tang dynasty scores a decisive victory over their rival Xue Rengao at the Battle of Qianshuiyuan.

- 0903 – The Abbasid army under Muhammad ibn Sulayman al-Katib deals a crushing defeat to the Qarmatians at the Battle of Hama.

- 1394 – The Korean king Yi Seong-gye, founder of the Joseon dynasty, moves the capital from Kaesŏng to Hanyang, today known as Seoul.

- 1549 – The papal conclave of 1549–50 begins.

- 1612 – The Battle of Swally takes place, which loosens the Portuguese Empire's hold on India.

- 1729 – Natchez Indians massacre 138 Frenchmen, 35 French women, and 56 children at Fort Rosalie, near the site of modern-day Natchez, Mississippi.

- 1776 – American Revolutionary War: The Battle of Fort Cumberland, Nova Scotia, comes to an end with the arrival of British reinforcements.

- 1777 – San Jose, California, is founded as Pueblo de San José de Guadalupe by José Joaquín Moraga. It is the first civilian settlement, or pueblo, in Alta California.

- 1781 – The crew of the British slave ship Zong murders 133 Africans by dumping them into the sea to claim insurance.

- 1783 – A 5.3 magnitude earthquake strikes New Jersey.

- 1807 – Transfer of the Portuguese Court to Brazil: John VI of Portugal flees Lisbon from advancing Napoleonic forces during the Peninsular War, transferring the Portuguese court to Brazil.

- 1830 – November Uprising: An armed rebellion against Russia's rule in Poland begins.

- 1847 – The Sonderbund is defeated by the joint forces of other Swiss cantons under General Guillaume-Henri Dufour.

- 1847 – Whitman massacre: Missionaries Dr. Marcus Whitman, his wife Narcissa, and 15 others are killed by Cayuse and Umatilla Indians, causing the Cayuse War.

- 1850 – The treaty, Punctation of Olmütz, is signed in Olomouc. Prussia capitulates to Austria, which will take over the leadership of the German Confederation.

- 1864 – American Indian Wars: Sand Creek massacre: Colorado volunteers led by Colonel John Chivington massacre at least 150 Cheyenne and Arapaho noncombatants inside Colorado Territory.

- 1864 – American Civil War: Battle of Spring Hill: The Confederate Army of Tennessee misses an opportunity to crush the Army of the Ohio.

- 1872 – American Indian Wars: The Modoc War begins with the Battle of Lost River.

- 1877 – Thomas Edison demonstrates his phonograph for the first time.

- 1890 – The Meiji Constitution goes into effect in Japan, and the first Diet convenes.

- 1902 – The Pittsburgh Stars defeated the Philadelphia Athletics, 11–0 to win the first championship associated with an American national professional football league.

- 1929 – U.S. Admiral Richard E. Byrd leads the first expedition to fly over the South Pole.

- 1943 – World War II: The second session of the Anti-Fascist Council for the National Liberation of Yugoslavia (AVNOJ), held to determine the post-war ordering of the country, concludes in Jajce (present-day Bosnia and Herzegovina).

- 1944 – World War II: Albania is liberated by the Partisans.

- 1945 – The Federal People's Republic of Yugoslavia is declared.

- 1947 – Partition Plan: The United Nations General Assembly approves a plan for the partition of Palestine.

- 1947 – First Indochina War: French forces carry out a massacre at Mỹ Trạch, Vietnam.

- 1952 – Korean War: U.S. President-elect Dwight D. Eisenhower fulfills a campaign promise by traveling to Korea to find out what can be done to end the conflict.

- 1961 – Project Mercury: Mercury-Atlas 5 Mission: Enos, a chimpanzee, is launched into space. The spacecraft orbits the Earth twice and splashes down off the coast of Puerto Rico.

- 1963 – U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson establishes the Warren Commission to investigate the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

- 1963 – Trans-Canada Air Lines Flight 831 crashes shortly after takeoff from Montreal-Dorval International Airport, killing all 118 people on board.

- 1967 – Vietnam War: U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara announces his resignation.

- 1972 – Atari releases Pong, the first commercially successful video game.

- 1986 – The Surinamese military attacks the village of Moiwana during the Suriname Guerrilla War, killing at least 39 civilians, mostly women and children.

- 1987 – North Korean agents plant a bomb on Korean Air Flight 858, which kills all 115 passengers and crew.

- 2007 – The Armed Forces of the Philippines lay siege to the Peninsula Manila after soldiers led by Senator Antonio Trillanes stage a mutiny.

- 2009 – Maurice Clemmons shoots and kills four police officers inside a coffee shop in Lakewood, Washington.

[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1427 - Zhengtong Emperor of China

- 1797 - Gaetano Donizetti, Italian composer

- 1802 - Wilhelm Hauff, German poet and author

- 1803 - Gottfried Semper, German architect and academic, designed the Semper Opera House

- 1803 - Christian Doppler, Austrian mathematician and physicist

- 1835 - Empress Dowager Cixi of China

- 1874 - Egas Moniz, Portuguese physician and neurologist, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1891 - Julius Raab, Austrian engineer and politician, 19th Chancellor of Austria

- 1895 - William Tubman, Liberian lawyer and politician, 19th President of Liberia

- 1898 - C. S. Lewis, British novelist, poet, and critic

- 1908 - Kurt H. Debus, German V-2 rocket scientist, 1st of NASA's Kennedy Space Center

- 1932 - Jacques Chirac, French soldier and politician, 22nd President of France

- 1946 - Silvio Rodríguez, Cuban singer-songwriter and guitarist

- 1947 - Petra Kelly, German activist and politician

- 1954 - Joel Coen, American director, producer, and screenwriter

- 1964 - Don Cheadle, American actor and producer

- 1969 - Mariano Rivera, Panamanian-American baseball player

[/spoiler]

Quote of the day

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.

- Winston Churchill -

Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.

I don't much like Churchill but his wit was legendary.

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Cesorion

Fuhrmania wrote:Its not December 1st and please don't call me fuhr you make me seem like hitler my nation name is literally my last name nationized Führmann to Fuhrmania

That's why I said early birthday. And sorry, Fuhrmania,

Nuremgard wrote:I don't much like Churchill but his wit was legendary.

What do you have against Winston?

The Wyoming Peoples Front wrote:What do you have against Winston?

He was a racist old imperialist. Plus, he sent in tanks to my home city to put down a strike. So I'm not exactly as fond of him as other Brits are because all they see is "the man who beat the Nazis."

Churchill is seen by most Brits through the halo effect.

Axeldonia, Lex Caledonia

So, looks like a Croatian general committed suicide via poison ingestion at the Hague rather than accept 20 years imprisonment.

Jaslandia, Axeldonia

Fuhrmania wrote:Its not December 1st and please don't call me fuhr you make me seem like hitler my nation name is literally my last name nationized Führmann to Fuhrmania

Wait, you just now corrected us on calling you Fuhr: we've been using that on Discord since you showed up

Kalaron

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:So, looks like a Croatian general committed suicide via poison ingestion at the Hague rather than accept 20 years imprisonment.

Prick. He took the easy way out.

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:Wait, you just now corrected us on calling you Fuhr: we've been using that on Discord since you showed up

Yee, like, a month now?

Nuremgard wrote:He was a racist old imperialist. Plus, he sent in tanks to my home city to put down a strike. So I'm not exactly as fond of him as other Brits are because all they see is "the man who beat the Nazis."

Churchill is seen by most Brits through the halo effect.

Honestly? Churchill's poster boy, Montgomery wasn't all that good at diplomacy, he made a habit of stepping on American Toes during the war >.>

Jaslandia

Kalaron wrote:Yee, like, a month now?

Honestly? Churchill's poster boy, Montgomery wasn't all that good at diplomacy, he made a habit of stepping on American Toes during the war >.>

When you remember that Montgomery accidentally pissed off Ike that one time and had to kiss up

Jaslandia

Kalaron wrote:Yee, like, a month now?

Honestly? Churchill's poster boy, Montgomery wasn't all that good at diplomacy, he made a habit of stepping on American Toes during the war >.>

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:When you remember that Montgomery accidentally pissed off Ike that one time and had to kiss up

Is it bad that I had to look up who Montgomery was?

Nuremgard wrote:Is it bad that I had to look up who Montgomery was?

Eh, serves justice since he was a major glory hound

Nuremgard

Nuremgard wrote:Is it bad that I had to look up who Montgomery was?

Yeah, Mont was kind of a gloryhound like UCT said. He was also quite the Chickenshit commander at times since he often tried to weasel his own orders in over Eisenhower.

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:When you remember that Montgomery accidentally pissed off Ike that one time and had to kiss up

INB4 "Mont and Rommel were great generals how dare you"

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

I dunno if Lex and me are the only Scots here but regardless: happy St. Andrew's Day!

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia, Percyton, The Scottish Twins

Kalaron wrote:Yeah, Mont was kind of a gloryhound like UCT said. He was also quite the Chickenshit commander at times since he often tried to weasel his own orders in over Eisenhower.

INB4 "Mont and Rommel were great generals how dare you"

Yep, adding on to that incident, it was basically when Montgomery had pushed Eisenhower too far by lecturing him on what he needed to do back when Eisenhower was in Supreme Command: Eisenhower reminded him who was in charge and immediately began to compose a letter to both Churchill and Roosevelt that either he leaves or they remove Montgomery from command. Montgomery found out and sent a kiss-up letter to keep him from sending them, which placated Ike.

Jaslandia, Kalaron

Kalaron wrote:INB4 "Mont and Rommel were great generals how dare you"

At least Mont fought for the allies.

Nuremgard wrote:I dunno if Lex and me are the only Scots here but regardless: happy St. Andrew's Day!

Beannaichte Latha Naomh Anndra!

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton, The Scottish Twins

Nuremgard wrote:I dunno if Lex and me are the only Scots here but regardless: happy St. Andrew's Day!

Douglas: Ye forgot two Scots, Nurem. An' canty St. Andrew's Day tae aw!

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia, Percyton

The Scottish Twins wrote:Douglas: Ye forgot two Scots, Nurem. An' canty St. Andrew's Day tae aw!

You two were my favourite engines growing up.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton, The Scottish Twins

Lex Caledonia wrote:You two were my favourite engines growing up.

They were among my favorites as well.

Nuremgard, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton, The Scottish Twins

Lex Caledonia wrote:You two were my favourite engines growing up.

Jaslandia wrote:They were among my favorites as well.

Douglas: We're glad tae hear ye say 'at, Lex an' Jas! We're always canty tae know 'at we hae fans. Now if only someone coulds pass 'at message oan tae Andrew Brenner an' th' current TV crew, an' mebbe then they'd feature us in mair episodes.

Donald: Or at least give us episodes whaur we're daein' somethin' other than arguin' wi' each other.

Douglas: Thocht tae be fair, us arguin' wi' each other isnae exactly an uncommon occurrence.

Donald: Och, dornt ye start wi' 'at again!

Douglas: Aam jist sayin', aam jist sayin'.

Donald: Weel Ah wish ye wouldnae say it.

Douglas: Och, ye arenae th' boss ay me! I'll say what Ah like!

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia, Percyton

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=421225&p=32994993#p32994993

Modernisation claims its first victim...

Jaslandia

The Scottish Twins wrote:Douglas: We're glad tae hear ye say 'at, Lex an' Jas! We're always canty tae know 'at we hae fans. Now if only someone coulds pass 'at message oan tae Andrew Brenner an' th' current TV crew, an' mebbe then they'd feature us in mair episodes.

Donald: Or at least give us episodes whaur we're daein' somethin' other than arguin' wi' each other.

Douglas: Thocht tae be fair, us arguin' wi' each other isnae exactly an uncommon occurrence.

Donald: Och, dornt ye start wi' 'at again!

Douglas: Aam jist sayin', aam jist sayin'.

Donald: Weel Ah wish ye wouldnae say it.

Douglas: Och, ye arenae th' boss ay me! I'll say what Ah like!

Calm down, calm down! I don't know who this... Mr. Brenner is.. but if he's keen on keeping the two of you out of the picture.... Then a few of my agents will just have to take HIM out of the picture.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Non-White Minorities in Europe: Asia is for Asians. Africa is for Africans, but why is Europe for everybody?

White Minorities in South Africa: We need to bring back apartheid. It's better for whites and blacks. Leave it to the whites to manage the country. Once blacks came into power, South Africa objectively became worse.

They're not racist, they just want to preserve the white race in Europe. No more, no less.*

*Except for SA and North America, whose white populations are not native to the land.

Good morning CFN! :)

Jaslandia, Percyton

Hello, everyone! Sorry for being gone for a few days; work has been really busy on the Island, as we have more goods and passenger trains due to holiday shopping. Still, I love the holiday season, and it's always a wonderful occasion on Sodor!

Russkov Soviet wrote:Calm down, calm down! I don't know who this... Mr. Brenner is.. but if he's keen on keeping the two of you out of the picture.... Then a few of my agents will just have to take HIM out of the picture.

Andrew Brenner is the head writer for our TV show Thomas & Friends. We've met him a few times when he visited the Island, and he really is quite nice! And while I appreciate your offer, it's not necessary considering how much good Mr. Brenner has done for the show. And while I also think Mr. Brenner and his writing team should feature Donald and Douglas in the show more often, it doesn't change the fact that Brenner and his team are the ones responsible for Donald and Douglas being back in the show in the first place: Before Brenner brought them back in the 2015 special Sodor's Legend of the Lost Treasure, the twins had been absent from the show since Season 12 in 2008. That's in addition to Brenner bringing back other popular characters like Duck, Oliver, and Bill and Ben; introducing the Arlesdale Railway and its engines into the show for the first time; and overseeing the first Railway Series (the book series our TV show is based off of) TV adaptions in over 20 years! Mr. Brenner isn't a miracle-worker, but considering how much he's improved the show, he might be pretty close to one.

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Good morning CFN! :)

It's VERY early in the morning for me, but good morning Peng! How are you?

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Percyton wrote:Hello, everyone! Sorry for being gone for a few days; work has been really busy on the Island, as we have more goods and passenger trains due to holiday shopping. Still, I love the holiday season, and it's always a wonderful occasion on Sodor!

Andrew Brenner is the head writer for our TV show Thomas & Friends. We've met him a few times when he visited the Island, and he really is quite nice! And while I appreciate your offer, it's not necessary considering how much good Mr. Brenner has done for the show. And while I also think Mr. Brenner and his writing team should feature Donald and Douglas in the show more often, it doesn't change the fact that Brenner and his team are the ones responsible for Donald and Douglas being back in the show in the first place: Before Brenner brought them back in the 2015 special Sodor's Legend of the Lost Treasure, the twins had been absent from the show since Season 12 in 2008. That's in addition to Brenner bringing back other popular characters like Duck, Oliver, and Bill and Ben; introducing the Arlesdale Railway and its engines into the show for the first time; and overseeing the first Railway Series (the book series our TV show is based off of) TV adaptions in over 20 years! Mr. Brenner isn't a miracle-worker, but considering how much he's improved the show, he might be pretty close to one.

It's VERY early in the morning for me, but good morning Peng! How are you?

Great to see you again, Percy!

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Good morning CFN! :)

Good morning, Peng!

Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Jaslandia wrote:Great to see you again, Percy!

Good morning, Peng!

Hello, Jas! How are you?

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Percyton wrote:Hello, Jas! How are you?

I'm pretty good, thanks.

Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Jaslandia wrote:I'm pretty good, thanks.

Good to hear!

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

WTF!? I dropped my immigration ban and it turned me into a left leaning college state?

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

The Wyoming Peoples Front wrote:WTF!? I dropped my immigration ban and it turned me into a left leaning college state?

Multiculturalism

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Percyton wrote:It's VERY early in the morning for me, but good morning Peng! How are you?

Well, it is early for me too (got up at 4.20am). I'm doing alright. Tho a bit sleepy. And hungry. How aboot you?

Jaslandia, Percyton

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Well, it is early for me too (got up at 4.20am). I'm doing alright. Tho a bit sleepy. And hungry. How aboot you?

Ah. That is early. Right now it's 6:30 AM on Sodor. I finished up my mail run a little while ago, and now I'm heading back to Tidmouth Sheds. And I'm doing good, though maybe a little impatient. I've been stuck at a danger signal for quite some time now, and I don't know why; the signal might be broken or stuck. My fireman is going to the signal box right now to investigate.

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Finally settled on a map of the area we reclaimed in our war against Lovackia.

https://i.imgur.com/ORWvFFG.png

Russkov Soviet, Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Trump should delete his Twitter, he’s starting to act like a middle aged white football hooligan who just got BT wired into his Council flat

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia

Yukona wrote:Trump should delete his Twitter, he’s starting to act like a middle aged white football hooligan who just got BT wired into his Council flat

Starting to?

Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:Starting to?

His re-tweet of the Britain First video is characteristic of a white British man who's just been laid off at the steel works.

Penguania And Antarctica, Lex Caledonia

Yukona wrote:His re-tweet of the Britain First video is characteristic of a white British man who's just been laid off at the steel works.

Isn't that bigoted? You're implying all working class factory employees are racist.

Nuremgard wrote:Isn't that bigoted? You're implying all working class factory employees are racist.

Yeah that's what I was implying, so I must be bigoted

Penguania And Antarctica

Yukona wrote:Yeah that's what I was implying, so I must be bigoted

But yes. Trump is indeed a c*nt. May doesn't have the guts to call off the state visit.

Penguania And Antarctica

Axeldonia wrote:At least Mont fought for the allies.

Honestly, depending on your definition, Rommel kinda did fight for the Allies. His blunders, like most """visionary""" german soldiers directly helped the Allied forces tbh. It's like the V2, the Allies loved it for how terribad it was.

Axeldonia

Kalaron wrote:Honestly, depending on your definition, Rommel kinda did fight for the Allies. His blunders, like most """visionary""" german soldiers directly helped the Allied forces tbh. It's like the V2, the Allies loved it for how terribad it was.

P R E C I S I O N G E R M A N E N G I N E E R I N G

Yukona

I think I'll keep New Salvatore as a one-party state but allow people freedom of speech. But the government will control the media, ban protests and control who party candidates are. Or I might democratise if I keep my UK.

Jaslandia, Percyton

Already been delayed further for staying overseas. Gotta love deployments. Hahaha

Kalaron, Yukona

Nuremgard wrote:I think I'll keep New Salvatore as a one-party state but allow people freedom of speech. But the government will control the media, ban protests and control who party candidates are. Or I might democratise if I keep my UK.

Democracy pls

The Empire Of Handland wrote:Already been delayed further for staying overseas. Gotta love deployments. Hahaha

Sorry to hear that, mate. What's your MOS?

Warning: Do not go to Discord right now if you aren't a fan of drugs.

Jaslandia, Yukona, Percyton

Kalaron wrote:Democracy pls

Sorry to hear that, mate. What's your MOS?

I will probably democratise.

Nuremgard wrote:I will probably democratise.

:D

Kalaron wrote::D

But it will retain its conservative, Catholic character.

Nuremgard wrote:But it will retain its conservative, Catholic character.

:C

This is the UK?

Kalaron wrote:Democracy pls

Sorry to hear that, mate. What's your MOS?

My AFSC is 3E6X1

Kalaron wrote::C

This is the UK?

No, this is New Salvatore. The one that is currently a one-party state. The UK will be an absolute monarchy but with various legislatures.

Yukona

The Empire Of Handland wrote:My AFSC is 3E6X1

Ew, the data managers of the chair force :p

Nah but really, is it fun enough?

Nuremgard wrote:No, this is New Salvatore. The one that is currently a one-party state. The UK will be an absolute monarchy but with various legislatures.

>Absolute monarchy

Ew, absolute monarchy

>:C

Nuremgard

Kalaron wrote:Ew, the data managers of the chair force :p

Nah but really, is it fun enough?

>Absolute monarchy

Ew, absolute monarchy

>:C

Traitor. :P

The House of Stuart will reign over Britain once more.

Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:Traitor. :P

The House of Stuart will reign over Britain once more.

House of Tudor or riot

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Yukona wrote:House of Tudor or riot

Hell naw. The Scots were the first to have an all-Britain king with the Stuarts. Then they were unlawfully removed by that Dutch usurper.

Nuremgard wrote:Hell naw. The Scots were the first to have an all-Britain king with the Stuarts. Then they were unlawfully removed by that Dutch usurper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5ItNxpwChE&t=1s the tudors produced this and were the kings of the British renaissance

Nuremgard

Yukona wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5ItNxpwChE&t=1s the tudors produced this and were the kings of the British renaissance

The Tudors were twats. I still haven't forgiven Elizabeth I.

Nuremgard wrote:Traitor. :P

The House of Stuart will reign over Britain once more.

Can you be a traitor when you never liked them anyway?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/193540344325996554/385837821849763840/dfa.jpg

Nuremgard

Kalaron wrote:Can you be a traitor when you never liked them anyway?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/193540344325996554/385837821849763840/dfa.jpg

It's not about liking your king. He's your king whether you like him or not lol that's the point of monarchy.

Yukona

Nuremgard wrote:It's not about liking your king. He's your king whether you like him or not lol that's the point of monarchy.

What a shix royal family then.

WE SHOULD REVOLT

Nuremgard

Kalaron wrote:What a shix royal family then.

WE SHOULD REVOLT

No! The Stuarts are supreme!

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