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Nuremgard wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/nation=auld_valyria/detail=factbook/id=783043

Decided to make Westeros a Dominion of the Freehold. :P

Very nice map. :)

Nuremgard

REGIONAL SONG OF THE DAY

Day 10: luminantAegis- "Hope Remains Extended" (link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPZ8wD_mF4o)

Suggestion courtesy of [nation=short]Kalaron[/nation]

Thank you for reading, papa bless

Penguania And Antarctica

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Very nice map. :)

Very nice empire too. The Valyrians rule most of the known world with their purple eyes, silver hair and dragons. They're practically Aryan. :P

Aghrabia, Penguania And Antarctica

Aghrabia wrote:REGIONAL SONG OF THE DAY

Day 10: luminantAegis- "Hope Remains Extended" (link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPZ8wD_mF4o)

Suggestion courtesy of [nation=short]Kalaron[/nation]

Thank you for reading, papa bless

Aw yis.

My jam.

Aghrabia, Penguania And Antarctica

Kalaron wrote:Well, I was actually referring to the general budget of the military with regards to what the Navy has. (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/5062)

Because the law specifies Eleven Carriers, the navy is forced (though, it's not like they don't want to...in fact they could get passed it with Helicopter-Carriers if they so wished) to keep our eleven supercarriers up and active.

Not sure why you needed to write this out. It seems like you just want to show off your "expertise"

Kalaron wrote:

If such a law were amended to bring that number down to nine or eight and the budget devoted for the DoD subsequently lowered, the money not funneled into it could be used in a appropriation request for the building of such a statue.

Still not how appropriations works. You can't just "free up" money to spend in other places, it's not how the general fund works.

Kalaron wrote:

That's how it seems to me, at least...but beyond that, I never mentioned any branch of government in devoting the money to it? I just said that the optimal solution in my mind was to use the money wasted in that program for something beneficial.

Um.... ok. You just described the exact problem raised with every single lobbyist, activist, pork spending, etc.... So?

Aldaur

Nuremgard wrote:Very nice empire too. The Valyrians rule most of the known world with their purple eyes, silver hair and dragons. They're practically Aryan. :P

Oh. Do I hear a soft "Unser Volk braucht Raum zum Leben!" in the background ? :P

Nuremgard, Aghrabia

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Oh. Do I hear a soft "Unser Volk braucht Raum zum Leben!" in the background ? :P

Nah. It would be said in High Valyrian. :P

Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:Nah. It would be said in High Valyrian. :P

Touché

Nuremgard

Tecmonaenov wrote:Not sure why you needed to write this out. It seems like you just want to show off your "expertise"

Still not how appropriations works. You can't just "free up" money to spend in other places, it's not how the general fund works.

Um.... ok. You just described the exact problem raised with every single lobbyist, activist, pork spending, etc.... So?

I mention it to explain why I -before- stated that we could scrap one. You seemed to want to limit my arguement to only being the actions of the Congress, so I figured I'd describe and adress every issue with the whole thing and explain how.

I'm not saying to "free up" money, I'm saying that we can simply maintain the budget for the next term while decreasing the military's budget and using the funds -through an appropriate appropriation case- for the project.

Lastly, I'm not sure we're arguing the same thing, because I'm speaking from the thought that this building project -and the decrease of the military budget- is happening and won't be stopped, which is why my "solution" for finding the money was so broad.

Anyway, taking a quote from Yuk..."Anyhow, how are ya Jim"

Aldaur

Hello people.

[spoiler=Today is March 7 and today are:]

Today is March 7 and today are:

- Alexander Graham Bell Day

- Liberation of Sulaymaniyah (Iraqi Kurdistan)

- National Be Heard Day (United States)

- National Cereal Day (United States)

- National Crown of Roast Pork Day (United States)

- National Pancake Day (United States)

- Teacher's Day (Albania)

- Town Meeting Day Vermont (Vermont, US)

- Unique Names Day

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 161 – Emperor Antoninus Pius dies and is succeeded by his adoptive sons Marcus Aurelius and Lucius Verus.

- 238 – Roman subjects in the province of Africa revolt against Maximinus Thrax and elect Gordian I as emperor.

- 321 – Emperor Constantine I decrees that the dies Solis Invicti (sun-day) is the day of rest in the Empire.

- 1277 – Stephen Tempier, bishop of Paris, condemns 219 philosophical and theological theses.

- 1573 – A peace treaty is signed between the Ottoman Empire and the Republic of Venice, ending the Ottoman–Venetian War (1570–73) and leaving Cyprus in Ottoman hands.

- 1799 – Napoleon Bonaparte captures Jaffa in Palestine and his troops proceed to kill more than 2,000 Albanian captives.

- 1814 – Emperor Napoleon I of France wins the Battle of Craonne.

- 1827 – Brazilian marines unsuccessfully attack the temporary naval base of Carmen de Patagones, Argentina.

- 1827 – Shrigley abduction: Ellen Turner is abducted by Edward Gibbon Wakefield, a future politician in colonial New Zealand.

- 1850 – Senator Daniel Webster gives his "Seventh of March" speech endorsing the Compromise of 1850 in order to prevent a possible civil war.

- 1862 – American Civil War: Union forces defeat Confederate troops at the Pea Ridge in northwestern Arkansas.

- 1876 – Alexander Graham Bell is granted a patent for an invention he calls the "telephone".

- 1900 – The German liner SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse becomes the first ship to send wireless signals to shore.

- 1902 – Second Boer War: Boers, led by Koos de la Rey, inflict the biggest defeat upon the British since the beginning of the war, at Tweebosch.

- 1914 – Prince William of Wied arrives in Albania to begin his reign as King.

- 1936 – Prelude to World War II: In violation of the Locarno Pact and the Treaty of Versailles, Germany reoccupies the Rhineland.

- 1945 – World War II: American troops seize the Ludendorff Bridge over the Rhine river at Remagen.

- 1950 – Cold War: The Soviet Union issues a statement denying that Klaus Fuchs served as a Soviet spy.

- 1951 – Korean War: Operation Ripper: United Nations troops led by General Matthew Ridgway begin an assault against Chinese forces.

- 1965 – Bloody Sunday: a group of 600 civil rights marchers is brutally attacked by state and local police in Selma, Alabama.

- 1967 – Majelis Permusyawaratan Rakyat Sementara (MPRS), Indonesian provisional parliament, revoked Sukarno's mandate as President of Indonesia.

- 1968 – Vietnam War: The United States and South Vietnamese military begin Operation Truong Cong Dinh to root out Viet Cong forces from the area surrounding Mỹ Tho.

- 1985 – The song "We Are the World" receives its international release.

- 1986 – Challenger Disaster: Divers from the USS Preserver locate the crew cabin of Challenger on the ocean floor.

- 1987 – Lieyu massacre: Taiwanese military massacre of 19 unarmed Vietnamese refugees at Donggang, Lieyu, Kinmen.

- 1989 – Iran and the United Kingdom break diplomatic relations after a row over Salman Rushdie and his controversial novel, The Satanic Verses.

- 2006 – The terrorist organisation Lashkar-e-Taiba coordinates a series of bombings in Varanasi, India.

- 2007 – The British House of Commons votes to make the upper chamber, the House of Lords, 100% elected.

- 2009 – The Real Irish Republican Army kills two British soldiers and injures two other soldiers and two civilians at Massereene Barracks, the first British military deaths in Northern Ireland since the end of The Troubles.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 189 – Publius Septimius Geta, Roman emperor

- 1765 – Nicéphore Niépce, French inventor, invented photography

- 1857 – Julius Wagner-Jauregg, Austrian physician and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1872 – Piet Mondrian, Dutch-American painter

- 1875 – Maurice Ravel, French pianist, composer, and conductor

- 1902 – Heinz Rühmann, German actor

- 1904 – Reinhard Heydrich, German SS officer

- 1908 – Anna Magnani, Italian actress

- 1942 – Michael Eisner, American businessman

- 1944 – Ranulph Fiennes, English soldier and explorer

- 1944 – Townes Van Zandt, American singer-songwriter and guitarist

- 1947 – Walter Röhrl, German race car driver

- 1956 – Bryan Cranston, American actor, director, and producer

- 1960 – Ivan Lendl, Czech tennis player and coach

- 1964 – Bret Easton Ellis, American author and screenwriter

- 1970 – Rachel Weisz, English-American actress and producer

- 1977 Ronan Keating, Irish recording artist, singer, musician, and philanthropist

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Quote of the day

Every picture shows a spot with which the artist has fallen in love.

- Alfred Sisley -

Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.

Jaslandia, Aghrabia

Kalaron wrote:I mention it to explain why I -before- stated that we could scrap one. You seemed to want to limit my arguement to only being the actions of the Congress, so I figured I'd describe and adress every issue with the whole thing and explain how.

You could be right or wrong about scrapping an air craft carrier. I don't know and I'm not interested, because it doesn't pertain to the process.

Yes, I do want to limit the arguement [sic] to the actions Congress, because that's who makes the federal budget. Not the Department of Defense. Congress. The aircraft carriers are irrelevant to how another project is paid.

Kalaron wrote:

I'm not saying to "free up" money, I'm saying that we can simply maintain the budget for the next term while decreasing the military's budget and using the funds -through an appropriate appropriation case- for the project.

No, no, no. That's my whole point. Federal spending doesn't work that way you are saying it does.

When a budget item is slashed, it's gone. The funds formerly allocated to the item gone. Any new budget items have to go through a separate process to be added to the budget and paid for from the general fund. There are no funnels. There are no offsets. Politicians like to tell voters there are, but when you examine the process, you realize the statement is absurd.

Whether one item is being added and another is being subtracted is not material. It's just not how it works.

Kalaron wrote:Lastly, I'm not sure we're arguing the same thing, because I'm speaking from the thought that this building project -and the decrease of the military budget- is happening and won't be stopped, which is why my "solution" for finding the money was so broad.

You are thinking that it works like a business or person's budget. It doesn't. There are no solutions like that. It's just not part of the process.

[quote=kalaron;24252826]

Anyway, taking a quote from Yuk..."Anyhow, how are ya Jim"

What? What is Yuk? What are you talking about?

Aldaur

Tecmonaenov wrote:Snip

I'm not saying that there are funnels, I'm specifically saying that the amount of money used in the Aircraft Carrier could be used for the project in the next fiscal year, this isn't saying that Congress will pull the money from the program and pour it into building, it's saying that Congress will agree to a fiscal budget of the same amount as what we currently have, and will amend the law stating that the navy must have eleven Supercarriers to nine. What happens beyond that would be that the funding bill would designate less money to the DoD while specifying that an amount of money would go to the department of housing and urban development -Yeah I'm sorry but I'm not following your little bit on restricting it solely to Congress because it's just as ridiculous to think that Republican members of Congress would agree by and large for the disruption of our military...so I'll be using my version of the scenario- for the statue.

Anyhow, I have to go, so this will be the last I write on this.

Aldaur

Kalaron wrote:I'm not saying that there are funnels,

Yes you are:

Kalaron wrote:Sure, we'll get the funds preferably by either selling a older and gutted aircraft carrier or scrapping one and selling the scrap (also directing the savings from the programs to repair and resupply that carrier too) and be able to funnel the revenue from Tourism into things like education and infrastructure.

Kalaron wrote:

I'm specifically saying that the amount of money used in the Aircraft Carrier could be used for the project in the next fiscal year, this isn't saying that Congress will pull the money from the program and pour it into building, it's saying that Congress will agree to a fiscal budget of the same amount as what we currently have, and will amend the law stating that the navy must have eleven Supercarriers to nine.

*sigh.... and I'm telling you this is an unrealistic and inaccurate way to think of how federal projects get funded.

Kalaron wrote:

What happens beyond that would be that the funding bill would designate less money to the DoD while specifying that an amount of money would go to the department of housing and urban development -Yeah I'm sorry but I'm not following your little bit on restricting it solely to Congress because it's just as ridiculous to think that Republican members of Congress would agree by and large for the disruption of our military...so I'll be using my version of the scenario- for the statue.

Anyhow, I have to go, so this will be the last I write on this.

lol what are you talking about? do you, by chance, happen to have hair on your neck but not your face?

Aldaur

Tecmonaenov wrote:What? What is Yuk? What are you talking about?

I'm Yuk and he's quoting a thing I say whenever sh*t gets awkward

Yukona wrote:I'm Yuk and he's quoting a thing I say whenever sh*t gets awkward

Nothing's awkward. He's just a bit thick, is all.

DoD needs more money.

Aldaur

So I stil have a application for the offsite forum pending approval. Is that ever going to happen or no?

Tecmonaenov wrote:Nothing's awkward. He's just a bit thick, is all.

Nice insult, K.

The Empire Of Handland wrote:DoD needs more money.

Respectfully disagree.

The Empire Of Handland wrote:So I stil have a application for the offsite forum pending approval. Is that ever going to happen or no?

Ask Latrovia.

Aghrabia

Kalaron wrote:Ask Latrovia.

Are you trying to make things awkward?

Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:How are you all ?

Good, how about you?

Penguania And Antarctica

Kalaron wrote:Nice insult, K.

Respectfully disagree.

Ask Latrovia.

Is he the only one who can?

Aghrabia, Penguania And Antarctica

Tecmonaenov wrote:Nothing's awkward. He's just a bit thick, is all.

Anyways Jim how ya doin

Aghrabia, Penguania And Antarctica

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:- Town Meeting Day Vermont (Vermont, US).

Hey hey, yes it is! Some pretty good turnout too from the looks of my town, myself included ofc.

Jaslandia, Aghrabia, Penguania And Antarctica

Kalaron wrote:Nice insult, K.

Is it an insult if it's true? Because you clearly don't understand public finance (or how to debate) but you kind of seem like you think you are an expert on both

Penguania And Antarctica

Tecmonaenov wrote:Is it an insult if it's true? Because you clearly don't understand public finance (or how to debate) but you kind of seem like you think you are an expert on both

And neither do you if you're going to throw insluts. Don't turn a regular debate in at 2016 presidential debate.

Aghrabia, Kalaron, Yukona

The Empire Of Handland wrote:And neither do you if you're going to throw insluts. Don't turn a regular debate in at 2016 presidential debate.

Easy there, keyboard warrior.

My thick-headed friend Kalaron already made the Trumpian-mistake of contradicting himself and then try to change the topic completely, meanwhile acting like I am the one who's off-topic.

The Empire Of Handland, Aldaur

How 'bout that religion?

Jaslandia, The Empire Of Handland, Aghrabia, Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Jeez, this is what I get for turning my head away from the RMB for a day or two...

Tecmonaenov wrote:Is it an insult if it's true? Because you clearly don't understand public finance (or how to debate) but you kind of seem like you think you are an expert on both

Hi! I don't know if you've just joined or have been here a while, but believe we've yet to meet! Im Andy :D

Aghrabia, Magnatronia

The Empire Of Handland wrote:Is he the only one who can?

Him and the Pres, and Bear, probably.

It's most likely to succeed if you ask Lat though.

Tecmonaenov wrote:Easy there, keyboard warrior.

My thick-headed friend Kalaron already made the Trumpian-mistake of contradicting himself and then try to change the topic completely, meanwhile acting like I am the one who's off-topic.

It's like insults are your life blood. Frankly I can't care less about this debate, so you can continue sending insults...or do something better with your time. I mean, clearly that would be more enjoyable for you?

Sulania wrote:How 'bout that religion?

It's old and smells ;P

Aghrabia

Andromitus wrote:Jeez, this is what I get for turning my head away from the RMB for a day or two...

Hi! I don't know if you've just joined or have been here a while, but believe we've yet to meet! Im Andy :D

Hello

Post self-deleted by Magnatronia.

Kalaron wrote:It's like insults are your life blood. Frankly I can't care less about this debate, so you can continue sending insults...or do something better with your time. I mean, clearly that would be more enjoyable for you?

Not insults. Facts and logic. Yours seems to be cherry-picking and delsuional reasoning.

Tecmonaenov wrote:Easy there, keyboard warrior.

My thick-headed friend Kalaron already made the Trumpian-mistake of contradicting himself and then try to change the topic completely, meanwhile acting like I am the one who's off-topic.

Not being a key board warrior, just been around long enough and in enough regions to see this is how RMB fights start and it just devolves from there.

Aghrabia, Kalaron

The Empire Of Handland wrote:Not being a key board warrior, just been around long enough and in enough regions to see this is how RMB fights start and it just devolves from there.

So is Kalaron always this ridiculous? Because if you've been paying attention, he said a bunch of ridiculously wrong BS, I called him for it, and now he is acting like he is too high and mighty to bother to respond to how wrong he was

Tecmonaenov wrote:Not insults. Facts and logic. Yours seems to be cherry-picking and delsuional reasoning.

"Not insults"

Dude, you called him thick.

Either you're implying he's thick headed, or you're complementing his butt. I really doubt it's the latter.

Aghrabia, Kalaron

The Empire Of Handland wrote:Not being a key board warrior, just been around long enough and in enough regions to see this is how RMB fights start and it just devolves from there.

Preach

Aghrabia, Yukona

Magnatronia wrote:"Not insults"

Dude, you called him thick.

Either you're implying he's thick headed, or you're complementing his butt. I really doubt it's the latter.

It's not an insult if it's true, and it is true. He is thick. He continued to argue his point even after I proved him wrong, and then said he didn't say things that he really did.

He's either stupid or insanely arrogant

Tecmonaenov wrote:So is Kalaron always this ridiculous? Because if you've been paying attention, he said a bunch of ridiculously wrong BS, I called him for it, and now he is acting like he is too high and mighty to bother to respond to how wrong he was

Well, if devolving to insults against an opponent is considered being a moderate, I fail to see how Kal is thick-headed as you stated

Kalaron

Tecmonaenov wrote:It's not an insult if it's true, and it is true. He is thick. He continued to argue his point even after I proved him wrong, and then said he didn't say things that he really did.

He's either stupid or insanely arrogant

But that doesn't mean you have to make ad hominem attacks.

Aghrabia, Aldaur, Kalaron

Pirate Kingdoms wrote:Well, if devolving to insults against an opponent is considered being a moderate, I fail to see how Kal is thick-headed as you stated

Moderate? What?

Magnatronia wrote:But that doesn't mean you have to make ad hominem attacks.

Seriously look at what happened. He made an false assumption about the federal budget process. I corrected hhim. Instead of accepting the correction, he made an incoherent defense of why I was wrong and off topic and he was right.

When I responded to him, then he accused me of being off topic.

When Trump does it, it's called goalpost--moving. When neckbeards like Kalaron do it, it's called stupidity.

Either way, it's an accurate description.

Aldaur

You are all amazing people, when you stop talking to one another. Like do something in your real life and quit busting everyones balls on the RMB.

Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica

Soooo, just to bring it back to the original point :p

I think it would be a good investment for any state on the west coast to build a statue of justice for national and state pride, as well as bringing in a lot of revenue from tourism. It'd also just ve really cool :p I'd like Oregon to build it, since my home state needs a kickstarter to the economy and this would create a few jobs from the ones that were lost! I am also pretty sure the state legislature could get some private funds as well, as I believe there are a lot of patriots willing to chip in! Maybe have their names engraved at the bottom for donating money to it or something!

Aghrabia, Penguania And Antarctica, Magnatronia

Tecmonaenov wrote:snip

Never said you were off topic, but K.

I actually said that we were both taking two different interpretations of the presented scenarios and then established that I was talking about my own scenario where everyone wants to get the statue built -since it would be near impossible to get Congress to agree on any large scale about shrinking our military anyway- and that was it.

I never moved the goalposts at all, but hey, whatever.

Darn, guess the last post wasn't my last.

Aghrabia, Aldaur

Kalaron wrote:Never said you were off topic, but K.

I actually said that we were both taking two different interpretations of the presented scenarios and then established that I was talking about my own scenario where everyone wants to get the statue built -since it would be near impossible to get Congress to agree on any large scale about shrinking our military anyway- and that was it.

I never moved the goalposts at all, but hey, whatever.

Darn, guess the last post wasn't my last.

Oh my God please stop. You don't know what you are talking about and you are so bad of a writer it's literally painful to read your responses.

You were wrong. You contradicted yourself. You can't format posts.

You can either be a big boy or a neckbeard. Why do you keep choosing the neckbeard route?

Latrovia wrote:You are all amazing people, when you stop talking to one another. Like do something in your real life and quit busting everyones balls on the RMB.

Hey! Don't call me amazing, mister! Why I outta....

Aghrabia, Penguania And Antarctica, Magnatronia

Post self-deleted by Andromitus.

Tecmonaenov wrote:Oh my God please stop. You don't know what you are talking about and you are so bad of a writer it's literally painful to read your responses.

You were wrong. You contradicted yourself. You can't format posts.

You can either be a big boy or a neckbeard. Why do you keep choosing the neckbeard route?

And leave it at that. There's no need to further devolve into chaos, you were right, Kal's just angry, let it blow over naturally.

Aghrabia

Tecmonaenov wrote:Oh my God please stop. You don't know what you are talking about and you are so bad of a writer it's literally painful to read your responses.

You were wrong. You contradicted yourself. You can't format posts.

You can either be a big boy or a neckbeard. Why do you keep choosing the neckbeard route?

So much for "no insults"

Aghrabia

Magnatronia wrote:So much for "no insults"

Whoa, holdup. WTF just happened?!

So I am a week in to growing my mustache. I can't wait for it to be fully grown so I can groom it. It is so gross right now lol

Penguania And Antarctica

Andromitus wrote:And leave it at that. There's no need to further devolve into chaos, you were right, Kal's just angry, let it blow over naturally.

[I]I saw you quote me Andy, what were you gonna say dude

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:Whoa, holdup. WTF just happened?!

Arguments, really.

What's new, you know?

Aldaur

Magnatronia wrote:[I]I saw you quote me Andy, what were you gonna say dude

I quoted you instead of Him by accident, wrote a nice big post and realized my mistake, panicked and deleted it in good, internet fashion

Aghrabia, Magnatronia

Kalaron wrote:Arguments, really.

What's new, you know?

That i get. But i need to know what happened in it, it's like reading the end of a book without reading anything else.

Aghrabia, Aldaur

Lol this is so bad in many ways. A bunch of strangers on a simulator game, fighting over a hypothesis with minimal to zero knowledge over a bunch of fictional nations.

I just wish some of you folks could get deleted

Aldaur

Latrovia wrote:Lol this is so bad in many ways. A bunch of strangers on a simulator game, fighting over a hypothesis with minimal to zero knowledge over a bunch of fictional nations.

I just wish some of you folks could get deleted

WHAT HYPOTHESIS?!?!?

Aldaur

Latrovia wrote:Lol this is so bad in many ways. A bunch of strangers on a simulator game, fighting over a hypothesis with minimal to zero knowledge over a bunch of fictional nations.

I just wish some of you folks could get deleted

You hypocrite, you did the exact same thing every chance you got in the ESU. Don't think any of us former ESU members forgot how many times you started arguments on the RMB out of spite. So don't try and act all high and mighty. You're guilty of the exact same thing.

The Empire Of Handland, Aghrabia, Aldaur

Nobody Knows I'm Gay

That's what my mug says. It's a good mug, holds two cups of coffee.

Aghrabia, Aldaur, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Magnatronia

Sulania wrote:Nobody Knows I'm Gay

That's what my mug says. It's a good mug, holds two cups of coffee.

I need at least 3 to get through the day.

Magnatronia

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:That i get. But i need to know what happened in it, it's like reading the end of a book without reading anything else.

From what I can see -and this is as unbiased a post as I can make- it started with Ald writing a post asking if we should have a statue on the west coast to match that on the east coast -a Statue of Justice, if you will- with me agreeing and suggesting that the best way to pay the costs of construction in the future would be with the funds currently cleared yearly for Aircraft carriers so that the military is in accordance with the law.

Then a kurfufle happened.

Frankly none of it matters and this whole thing is just annoying.

Aghrabia, Aldaur

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:I need at least 3 to get through the day.

I don't need any, I just drink it sometimes.

Kalaron wrote:From what I can see -and this is as unbiased a post as I can make- it started with Ald writing a post asking if we should have a statue on the west coast to match that on the east coast -a Statue of Justice, if you will- with me agreeing and suggesting that the best way to pay the costs of construction in the future would be with the funds currently cleared yearly for Aircraft carriers so that the military is in accordance with the law.

Then a kurfufle happened.

Frankly none of it matters and this whole thing is just annoying.

This is a hilariously incorrect explanation.

The schools of your nation have failed you. I'd suggest starting your education over from the beginning. Maybe then you'll have the critical thinking and writing skills you think you have.

Seriously, please leave this game and take some Kahn Academy courses in your spare time. You will be better off, and so will the rest of us.

Kalaron wrote:From what I can see -and this is as unbiased a post as I can make- it started with Ald writing a post asking if we should have a statue on the west coast to match that on the east coast -a Statue of Justice, if you will- with me agreeing and suggesting that the best way to pay the costs of construction in the future would be with the funds currently cleared yearly for Aircraft carriers so that the military is in accordance with the law.

Then a kurfufle happened.

Frankly none of it matters and this whole thing is just annoying.

Thank you for clearing that up. On a related note, the statue of liberty only costed a few million USD or more in today's money, so it wouldn't need that much support to start this sh!tstorm.

Aghrabia, Aldaur

Tecmonaenov wrote:This is a hilariously incorrect explanation.

The schools of your nation have failed you. I'd suggest starting your education over from the beginning. Maybe then you'll have the critical thinking and writing skills you think you have.

Seriously, please leave this game and take some Kahn Academy courses in your spare time. You will be better off, and so will the rest of us.

On another related note, how bout you explain it too so i can see both sides of the story.

Aldaur

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:Thank you for clearing that up. On a related note, the statue of liberty only costed a few million USD or more in today's money, so it wouldn't need that much support to start this sh!tstorm.

It's not about. It's about how incorrect Kalaron was,, and how he defends his errors with incoherent ramblings, and how he contradicts himself.

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:On another related note, how bout you explain it too so i can see both sides of the story.

Just read the posts

Tecmonaenov wrote:snip

Why are you so angry?

Besides, it's the actual events that happened, so it being inaccurate is pretty impossible. Unless Ald didn't make a post about constructing a new statue on the other side, or I didn't legitimately post that I wanted the money to come from the programs for the repairing that aircraft carrier, then it's not "Hilariously inaccurate" at all?

Aldaur

Tecmonaenov wrote:It's not about. It's about how incorrect Kalaron was,, and how he defends his errors with incoherent ramblings, and how he contradicts himself.

Ik Kal can be kind of a know it all sometimes, but you're being kind of a dick right now. Just let it go mate.

Aghrabia, Magnatronia

Kalaron wrote:Why are you so angry?

Besides, it's the actual events that happened, so it being inaccurate is pretty impossible. Unless Ald didn't make a post about constructing a new statue on the other side, or I didn't legitimately post that I wanted the money to come from the programs for the repairing that aircraft carrier, then it's not "Hilariously inaccurate" at all?

Oh my God. You are so wrong and so self-serving and so bad at run-on sentences. It's pitiable.

Tecmonaenov wrote:Just read the posts

You want to say his explanation is incorrect? Then give me yours so i can crosscheck it.

Aldaur wrote:Ik Kal can be kind of a know it all sometimes, but you're being kind of a dick right now. Just let it go mate.

I can handle know-it-alls. But he is a misinformed know-it-all. He has no idea what he is talking about and won't admit it. Most of his posts are poorly--written, masturbatory rants.

Why do you all tolerate this?

Tecmonaenov wrote:Oh my God. You are so wrong and so self-serving and so bad at run-on sentences. It's pitiable.

I'm glad that you didn't respond to my question...it's real nice to see.

Like, all of it was just the facts, but I'm glad you've gone full on in your quest to insult me.

Frankly, I'm just gonna take Ald's advice and back out of this argument, because there really isn't any points being made for either side.

Aghrabia, Aldaur, Magnatronia

Magnatronia wrote:You hypocrite, you did the exact same thing every chance you got in the ESU. Don't think any of us former ESU members forgot how many times you started arguments on the RMB out of spite. So don't try and act all high and mighty. You're guilty of the exact same thing.

Hahahahahahaha lol. For your bad luck, I am mighty.

I am guilty of nothing to be honest, the ESU got what it deserved. You know what they say, 10% is life, 90% is how you perceive it. Those arguments where there way before I was in the ESU.

Tecmonaenov wrote:I can handle know-it-alls. But he is a misinformed know-it-all. He has no idea what he is talking about and won't admit it. Most of his posts are poorly--written, masturbatory rants.

Why do you all tolerate this?

Because at least he doesn't insult people

Aldaur

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:You want to say his explanation is incorrect? Then give me yours so i can crosscheck it.

No. Read the posts. I'm not going to spoonfeed you.

Kalaron wrote:I'm glad that you didn't respond to my question...it's real nice to see.

Like, all of it was just the facts, but I'm glad you've gone full on in your quest to insult me.

Frankly, I'm just gonna take Ald's advice and back out of this argument, because there really isn't any points being made for either side.

You are just doing it again. You won't actually admit or deny that you were wrong or that you contradicted youraelf. You just try to bury the truth in some kind of holier-than-thou speech.

Tecmonaenov wrote:I can handle know-it-alls. But he is a misinformed know-it-all. He has no idea what he is talking about and won't admit it. Most of his posts are poorly--written, masturbatory rants.

Why do you all tolerate this?

Because 1. You started the argument that led up to this. 2. I checked the RMB and you tried to compare a real life nation's government to that of a fictional one. 3. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, and is allowed to speak it.

Aghrabia, Aldaur

Magnatronia wrote:Because at least he doesn't insult people

Then I feel bad for you

Tecmonaenov wrote:

No. Read the posts. I'm not going to spoonfeed you.

You are just doing it again. You won't actually admit or deny that you were wrong or that you contradicted youraelf. You just try to bury the truth in some kind of holier-than-thou speech.

I would like to say, for one, that you would do well to calm down.

You can't read emotion, but negative vibes are pouring off of every word you type.

Aldaur, Yukona

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:Because 1. You started the argument that led up to this. 2. I checked the RMB and you tried to compare a real life nation's government to that of a fictional one. 3. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, and is allowed to speak it.

What are you talking about?

Tecmonaenov wrote:Read the posts. I'm not going to spoonfeed you.

Aldaur, Yukona

Tecmonaenov wrote:No. Read the posts. I'm not going to spoonfeed you.

You are just doing it again. You won't actually admit or deny that you were wrong or that you contradicted youraelf. You just try to bury the truth in some kind of holier-than-thou speech.

I'm pointing to the actual events that happened, and asking you to explain how my description was part of a

Tecmonaenov wrote:This is a hilariously incorrect explanation.

Because Ald liked my post...so clearly he made his on the Statue...and I'll grab mine on using Aircraft carrier funds for it.

Kalaron wrote:Sure, we'll get the funds preferably by either selling a older and gutted aircraft carrier or scrapping one and selling the scrap (also directing the savings from the programs to repair and resupply that carrier too) and be able to funnel the revenue from Tourism into things like education and infrastructure.

Now, unless my NS is lying to me, my explanation was made of the facts, right?

Aldaur

Aghrabia wrote:Good, how about you?

Okay. Tired tho.

Aghrabia

Vista Major wrote:I would like to say, for one, that you would do well to calm down.

You can't read emotion, but negative vibes are pouring off of every word you type.

Oh, I would do well? Well, you aren't my personal savior, do you would do well by stepping off

Vista Major wrote:I would like to say, for one, that you would do well to calm down.

You can't read emotion, but negative vibes are pouring off of every word you type.

Ik you said negative vibes, but this is the first thing that popped in my head lol

https://youtu.be/Eab_beh07HU

Tecmonaenov wrote:Oh, I would do well? Well, you aren't my personal savior, do you would do well by stepping off

Watch yourself, you insulted the president of our region.

Aghrabia, Aldaur, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:seem familiar?

Oh my lord. You are worse than Kalaron.

Kalaron wrote:I'm pointing to the actual events that happened, and asking you to explain how my description was part of a

Because Ald liked my post...so clearly he made his on the Statue...and I'll grab mine on using Aircraft carrier funds for it.

Now, unless my NS is lying to me, my explanation was made of the facts, right?

You are beyond help.

Tecmonaenov wrote:Oh my lord. You are worse than Kalaron.

Thank you for stating the obvious.

Aghrabia, Aldaur, Yukona

Tecmonaenov wrote:

Oh, I would do well? Well, you aren't my personal savior, do you would do well by stepping off

Stepping off is not in my job description, I'm afraid.

I am no Coolidge. If I, as President, see a problem, I intend on stepping [I]in[/I] whenever possible.

Right now, I regret to inform you that you are a problem.

I advise that you issue a general apology to everyone.

Aghrabia, Aldaur, Penguania And Antarctica

Latrovia wrote:Hahahahahahaha lol. For your bad luck, I am mighty.

I am guilty of nothing to be honest, the ESU got what it deserved. You know what they say, 10% is life, 90% is how you perceive it. Those arguments where there way before I was in the ESU.

Oh suuure, it was all *our* fault when Semaj left because of how angry he was that you terminated his position in the government. It was *our* fault when you incited him, and many of us, to fight on the RMB over pointless things and dramas you either started or made up. It was *our* fault when everyone lost faith in the government we set up because you and Kedalistan were in kahoots to undermine everything the rest of us did or said. The only thing that was actually our fault was how much we hated the way you ran the region when you were president. End of the conversation.

Aghrabia

Tecmonaenov wrote:Oh my lord. You are worse than Kalaron.

You are beyond help.

Still no valid response on my point of only having pointed out the facts.

Seeing as your last three responses have all just been insults and ignored my points, I'll just say that you're a troll and be done with it.

Aghrabia, Aldaur, Magnatronia

I would have kicked this guy 10 posts ago in my region. I say that agreeing with his previous comments (non-insulting ones).

Magnatronia

Vista Major wrote:Stepping off is not in my job description, I'm afraid.

I am no Coolidge. If I, as President, see a problem, I intend on stepping [I]in[/I] whenever possible.

Right now, I regret to inform you that you are a problem.

I advise that you issue a general apology to everyone.

Kalaron, I'm sorry you are so stupid and arrogant and so bad at writing

Everyone else, I'm sorry you are too foolish to kick out neckbeards like Kalaron

Vista, I'm sorry you have the task of presiding over a confederacy of dunces

MESSAGE FROM THE OFFICE OF THE SPEAKER

This is probably a better way of going about things.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bmSXcrIYLpEUPeP9EF200vVc2Qj2oGV2PUrrTTlggqs/edit?usp=sharing

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Aldaur wrote:I would have kicked this guy 10 posts ago in my region. I say that agreeing with his previous comments (non-insulting ones).

So it isn't just me who wants to give him a oneway ticket to the Rejected Realms, then?

Aghrabia, Aldaur, Kalaron

Tecmonaenov wrote:Kalaron, I'm sorry you are so stupid and arrogant and so bad at writing

Everyone else, I'm sorry you are too foolish to kick out neckbeards like Kalaron

Vista, I'm sorry you have the task of presiding over a confederacy of dunces

Aldaur wrote:I would have kicked this guy 10 posts ago in my region. I say that agreeing with his previous comments (non-insulting ones).

Magnatronia

Tecmonaenov wrote:Kalaron, I'm sorry you are so stupid and arrogant and so bad at writing

Everyone else, I'm sorry you are too foolish to kick out neckbeards like Kalaron

Vista, I'm sorry you have the task of presiding over a confederacy of dunces

Clearly a troll. Andy, can you take out the trash already? It's starting to stink up the place.

Aghrabia, Aldaur

Tecmonaenov wrote:Kalaron, I'm sorry you are so stupid and arrogant and so bad at writing

Everyone else, I'm sorry you are too foolish to kick out neckbeards like Kalaron

Vista, I'm sorry you have the task of presiding over a confederacy of dunces

I believe he meant apologize for YOUR actions, smart arse.

Aldaur

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:So it isn't just me who wants to give him a oneway ticket to the Rejected Realms, then?

Magnatronia wrote:Clearly a troll. Andy, can you take out the trash already? It's starting to stink up the place.

He's only been here one day too lol

Aghrabia, Magnatronia

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