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Clemodecralia wrote:Can't have fake news and alternative facts going around

Trump supporter?

I have completed the changes that were needed to our flags.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=onocarcass/detail=factbook/id=787891

Are there any that you guys think I should change?

Percyton

Onocarcass wrote:I have completed the changes that were needed to our flags.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=onocarcass/detail=factbook/id=787891

Are there any that you guys think I should change?

I'd change Nubeun's.

Percyton

Onocarcass wrote:I have completed the changes that were needed to our flags.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=onocarcass/detail=factbook/id=787891

Are there any that you guys think I should change?

All the super complex ones like Capital

Andromitus wrote:I like it!

Except for when you hit Automation, and the growing number of jobs being created becomes slower than the growing population. Or when 2-3 Companies own the majority of "intellectual property" and the entire economy stagnates :D

None of us are being fµcking sarcastic Aux XD We're, at least I am, pretty pissed and upset that the first slew of major interconnected international activity, something that could truly have been great, just stopped for the second time in two months because someone didn't like the rules and refused to accept why a Unitary Republican and an Ædenist Near-Communist wouldn't want to be friends with a Libertarian Island Federation

Me lol

Seriously, I think he's just refusing to RP anymore because his little military grab on Hawaii and attempt to block everyone but himself from helping out in Hawaii is backfiring.

Auxorii wrote:All the super complex ones like Capital

Which ones do you consider complex?

Auxorii wrote:Trump supporter?

I wouldn't consider myself a supporter, though during the election I greatly preferred him over Hillary or Sanders. I find that all of his accomplishments are greatly overlooked and outright ignored, and people still ride the artificial and false trump hate wave (he's f-finally going to g-get impeached, hillary/bernie still have a c-chance, r-right guys?).

in other words I support much of what he's doing, but I'm not one to blindly agree with all of his actions, I'm not a stranger to criticizing him.

Auxorii, United Continental States

Auxorii wrote:I'm a huge Boston sports fan (Go Pats) and Celtic FC fan. I like Man U as well.

I'm a Chelsea fan

Clemodecralia wrote:I wouldn't consider myself a supporter, though during the election I greatly preferred him over Hillary or Sanders. I find that all of his accomplishments are greatly overlooked and outright ignored, and people still ride the artificial and false trump hate wave (he's f-finally going to g-get impeached, hillary/bernie still have a c-chance, r-right guys?).

in other words I support much of what he's doing, but I'm not one to blindly agree with all of his actions, I'm not a stranger to criticizing him.

I agree.

United Continental States

Nordic countries suck by the way

Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:Nordic countries suck by the way

So do liberals

United Continental States, Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth

UPDATE:

The issue with the Supreme Court Justice elections has been resolved. A runoff election will not be needed. Results coming out later tonight.

Jaslandia, Oelesa

Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:Nordic countries suck by the way

That's a funny flag you sport XD

Friedensreich wrote:So do liberals

*new age liberals

classic liberals are fine imo

Baxten

Clemodecralia wrote:That's a funny flag you sport XD

*new age liberals

classic liberals are fine imo

Lol no. All liberals suck

Clemodecralia wrote:That's a funny flag you sport XD

*new age liberals

classic liberals are fine imo

Lol I am waiting for a new one. Look, I love my country, its culture and the people, but I hate the politics

Clemodecralia

Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:Lol I am waiting for a new one. Look, I love my country, its culture and the people, but I hate the politics

You and me both.

Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:Lol I am waiting for a new one. Look, I love my country, its culture and the people, but I hate the politics

100% agree about the nordic countries

Neo-Icelandic Commonwealth wrote:

Lol I am waiting for a new one. Look, I love my country, its culture and the people, but I hate the politics

I had your flag at one point. Then I went Nordic Goth, and, well, the rest is history

Jaslandia

Be culturally enriched by my country

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnrcK9fgndw

Oelesa

The introduction of the desert trilogy religion into Europe was a mistake

Paganism >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some foreign crap

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Friedensreich, Andromitus

Clemodecralia wrote:The introduction of the desert trilogy religion into Europe was a mistake

Paganism >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some foreign crap

I love the way you describe them: "The Desert Trilogy"

Jaslandia, Clemodecralia

Friedensreich wrote:I love the way you describe them: "The Desert Trilogy"

Sounds like what you would call a group of Stars Wars movies if they were set entirely on Tatooine.

Friedensreich, United Continental States

Friedensreich wrote:Lol no. All liberals suck

Are you a realist? Or a radical? Or are you a constructivist?

Jaslandia wrote:Sounds like what you would call a group of Stars Wars movies if they were set entirely on Tatooine.

I was just going to say!

"The Desert Trilogy", the story of Obi Wan Kenobi wandering in the desert of Tatooine.

Jaslandia, United Continental States

Clemodecralia wrote:The introduction of the desert trilogy religion into Europe was a mistake

Paganism >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some foreign crap

Uhh Catholicism>Paganism

Baxten wrote:Are you a realist? Or a radical? Or are you a constructivist?

In terms of international relations? I'm more of a realist, but a tad bit more optimistic.

Jaslandia

Auxorii wrote:Uhh Catholicism>Paganism

Zoroastrianism > Catholicism

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Andromitus, Yukona, United Continental States

Baxten wrote:Are you a realist? Or a radical? Or are you a constructivist?

I consider myself a Radical Realist

Friedensreich wrote:I was just going to say!

"The Desert Trilogy", the story of Obi Wan Kenobi wandering in the desert of Tatooine.

Not sure how much story potential would be there, unless you want 2 hours per movie of Obi Wan walking through a barren desert. But either way, it would still be better than the prequel movies.

The Royal Republic Of Kumania

Friedensreich wrote:Zoroastrianism > Catholicism

Why

Nuremgard wrote:Aye, just like Westminster. Two parties that will always defend the status quo with some lip service paid to public services.

>Jeremy Corbyn

>Defend the status quo

Pick one

Yukona wrote:>Jeremy Corbyn

>Defend the status quo

Pick one

The big JC, even if he is a unionist. Anyone's better than that old witch.

United Continental States

Auxorii wrote:Uhh Catholicism>Paganism

Catholicism < Orthodox <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Slavic Paganism

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Andromitus, United Continental States

I don't think I'm allowed to share my alternate history Earth map I've been following the history of for 2 years now, because it has 2 swastikas on it.

I'm having quite a hard time coming up with a post relating to the situation below me.

Oelesa

Onocarcass wrote:I don't think I'm allowed to share my alternate history Earth map I've been following the history of for 2 years now, because it has 2 swastikas on it.

As long as you're not advocating for what those swastikas historically represent, I think it's fine.

Can I see?

Nuremgard wrote:The big JC, even if he is a unionist. Anyone's better than that old witch.

A unionist who supports a united Ireland if the people want it and an independent Scotland

Onocarcass wrote:I don't think I'm allowed to share my alternate history Earth map I've been following the history of for 2 years now, because it has 2 swastikas on it.

I wouldn't.

Clemodecralia wrote:As long as you're not advocating for what those swastikas historically represent, I think it's fine.

Can I see?

Auxorii wrote:I wouldn't.

I definitely don't agree with Nazism, just to make it clear.

Oelesa

Jaslandia wrote:Not sure how much story potential would be there, unless you want 2 hours per movie of Obi Wan walking through a barren desert. But either way, it would still be better than the prequel movies.

pulls down hood Hello there!

Jaslandia

If anyone does want to see it, I can just send it in a TG

Andromitus

Yukona wrote:A unionist who supports a united Ireland if the people want it and an independent Scotland

I have not heard Corbyn express any pro-Scottish independence views.

Nuremgard wrote:I have not heard Corbyn express any pro-Scottish independence views.

Giyf

Yukona wrote:Giyf

Ah well.

I wish there was a more peaceful way to put down dissent in your nations. People in Caledonia were demanding the vote but the King's only two options were: give them the vote or have the army shoot them.

He's a good king. He doesn't want to brutalise his own subjects. So I dismissed it.

Auxorii wrote:Uhh Catholicism>Paganism

Ain't got nothing on daddy;

Atenism > Catholicism

The Royal Republic Of Kumania

Andromitus wrote:Ain't got nothing on daddy;

Atenism > Catholicism

I was mentioned?

Andromitus

Andromitus wrote:Ain't got nothing on daddy;

Atenism > Catholicism

Atenism may have been the first ever monotheistic religion.

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Andromitus

Sulania wrote:I was mentioned?

Religion daddy not daddy daddy :3

Nuremgard wrote:Atenism may have been the first ever monotheistic religion.

Splenda daddy just got called out by Sugar daddy;

Finnish Paganism > Atenism

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia

Are you kidding? The dude who ran for MoFA CTE'd! Who does that??

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Vista Major, Yukona

Magnatronia wrote:Are you kidding? The dude who ran for MoFA CTE'd! Who does that??

A misspelling on my part

Yukona

Vista Major wrote:A misspelling on my part

I am honestly laughing so hard right know though

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Vista Major, Oelesa, Percyton, United Continental States

Andromitus wrote:I am honestly laughing so hard right now though

The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Jaslandia, Percyton

Congratulations to all who won the recent elections! I would also like to extend my gratitude to the voters of the CoFN for choosing me as one of the three Supreme Court Justices; I am honored to serve the region, and I will do my best to uphold the laws and Constitution of the Confederacy.

Vista Major, Oelesa, Kalaron, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton, South Hyder

Auxorii wrote:Why

[spoiler=Boom]

In Zoroastrianism, the purpose in life is to "be among those who renew the world...to make the world progress towards perfection". Its basic maxims include:

-Humata, Hukhta, Huvarshta, which mean: Good Thoughts, Good Words, Good Deeds.

-There is only one path and that is the path of Truth.

-Do the right thing because it is the right thing to do, and then all beneficial rewards will come to you also.[/spoiler]

Friedensreich wrote:[spoiler=Boom]

In Zoroastrianism, the purpose in life is to "be among those who renew the world...to make the world progress towards perfection". Its basic maxims include:

-Humata, Hukhta, Huvarshta, which mean: Good Thoughts, Good Words, Good Deeds.

-There is only one path and that is the path of Truth.

-Do the right thing because it is the right thing to do, and then all beneficial rewards will come to you also.[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Counter Boom]Read Temple on the Mount[/spoiler]

Friedensreich wrote:[spoiler=Boom]

In Zoroastrianism, the purpose in life is to "be among those who renew the world...to make the world progress towards perfection". Its basic maxims include:

-Humata, Hukhta, Huvarshta, which mean: Good Thoughts, Good Words, Good Deeds.

-There is only one path and that is the path of Truth.

-Do the right thing because it is the right thing to do, and then all beneficial rewards will come to you also.[/spoiler]

I still prefer paganism. Multiple gods, great heroes, monsters. It's cool.

Auxorii wrote:[spoiler=Counter Boom]Read Temple on the Mount[/spoiler]

No thanks

Friedensreich wrote:No thanks

[Spoiler=Then you're just being willingly ignorant]

Matthew 5

1 Jesus saw the crowds and went up a hill, where he sat down. His disciples gathered around him, 2 and he began to teach them:

"True Happiness" - 3 "Happy are those who know they are spiritually poor; the Kingdom of heaven belongs to them!

4 "Happy are those who mourn; God will comfort them!

5 "Happy are those who are humble; they will receive what God has promised!

6 "Happy are those whose greatest desire is to do what God requires; God will satisfy them fully!

7 "Happy are those who are merciful to others; God will be merciful to them!

8 "Happy are the pure in heart; they will see God!

9 "Happy are those who work for peace; God will call them his children!

10 "Happy are those who are persecuted because they do what God requires; the Kingdom of heaven belongs to them!

11 "Happy are you when people insult you and persecute you and tell all kinds of evil lies against you because you are my followers. 12 Be happy and glad, for a great reward is kept for you in heaven. This is how the prophets who lived before you were persecuted.

"Salt and Light" - 13 "You are like salt for all mankind. But if salt loses its saltiness, there is no way to make it salty again. It has become worthless, so it is thrown out and people trample on it.

14 "You are like light for the whole world. A city built on a hill cannot be hid. 15 No one lights a lamp and puts it under a bowl; instead he puts it on the lampstand, where it gives light for everyone in the house. 16 In the same way your light must shine before people, so that they will see the good things you do and praise your Father in heaven.

"Teaching about the Law" - 17 "Do not think that I have come to do away with the Law of Moses and the teachings of the prophets. I have not come to do away with them, but to make their teachings come true. 18 Remember that as long as heaven and earth last, not the least point nor the smallest detail of the Law will be done away with -- not until the end of all things. 19 So then, whoever disobeys even the least important of the commandments and teaches others to do the same, will be least in the Kingdom of heaven. On the other hand, whoever obeys the Law and teaches others to do the same, will be great in the Kingdom of heaven. 20 I tell you, then, that you will be able to enter the Kingdom of heaven only if you are more faithful than the teachers of the Law and the Pharisees in doing what God requires.

"Teaching about Anger" - 21 "You have heard that people were told in the past, "Do not commit murder; anyone who does will be brought to trial.' 22 But now I tell you: whoever is angry with his brother will be brought to trial, whoever calls his brother "You good-for-nothing!' will be brought before the Council, and whoever calls his brother a worthless fool will be in danger of going to the fire of hell. 23 So if you are about to offer your gift to God at the altar and there you remember that your brother has something against you, 24 leave your gift there in front of the altar, go at once and make peace with your brother, and then come back and offer your gift to God.

25 "If someone brings a lawsuit against you and takes you to court, settle the dispute with him while there is time, before you get to court. Once you are there, he will turn you over to the judge, who will hand you over to the police, and you will be put in jail. 26 There you will stay, I tell you, until you pay the last penny of your fine.

"Teaching about Adultery" - 27 "You have heard that it was said, "Do not commit adultery.' 28 But now I tell you: anyone who looks at a woman and wants to possess her is guilty of committing adultery with her in his heart. 29 So if your right eye causes you to sin, take it out and throw it away! It is much better for you to lose a part of your body than to have your whole body thrown into hell. 30 If your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away! It is much better for you to lose one of your limbs than to have your whole body go off to hell.

"Teaching about Divorce" - 31 "It was also said, "Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a written notice of divorce.' 32 But now I tell you: if a man divorces his wife for any cause other than her unfaithfulness, then he is guilty of making her commit adultery if she marries again; and the man who marries her commits adultery also.

"Teaching about Vows" - 33 "You have also heard that people were told in the past, "Do not break your promise, but do what you have vowed to the Lord to do.' 34 But now I tell you: do not use any vow when you make a promise. Do not swear by heaven, for it is God's throne; 35 nor by earth, for it is the resting place for his feet; nor by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. 36 Do not even swear by your head, because you cannot make a single hair white or black. 37 Just say "Yes' or "No' -- anything else you say comes from the Evil One.

"Teaching about Revenge" - 38 "You have heard that it was said, "An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.' 39 But now I tell you: do not take revenge on someone who wrongs you. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, let him slap your left cheek too. 40 And if someone takes you to court to sue you for your shirt, let him have your coat as well. 41 And if one of the occupation troops forces you to carry his pack one mile, carry it two miles. 42 When someone asks you for something, give it to him; when someone wants to borrow something, lend it to him.

"Love for Enemies" - 43 "You have heard that it was said, "Love your friends, hate your enemies.' 44 But now I tell you: love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 so that you may become the sons of your Father in heaven. For he makes his sun to shine on bad and good people alike, and gives rain to those who do good and to those who do evil. 46 Why should God reward you if you love only the people who love you? Even the tax collectors do that! 47 And if you speak only to your friends, have you done anything out of the ordinary? Even the pagans do that! 48 You must be perfect -- just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

Matthew 6

"Teaching about Charity" - 1 "Make certain you do not perform your religious duties in public so that people will see what you do. If you do these things publicly, you will not have any reward from your Father in heaven.

2 "So when you give something to a needy person, do not make a big show of it, as the hypocrites do in the houses of worship and on the streets. They do it so that people will praise them. I assure you, they have already been paid in full. 3 But when you help a needy person, do it in such a way that even your closest friend will not know about it. 4 Then it will be a private matter. And your Father, who sees what you do in private, will reward you.

"Teaching about Prayer" - 5 "When you pray, do not be like the hypocrites! They love to stand up and pray in the houses of worship and on the street corners, so that everyone will see them. I assure you, they have already been paid in full. 6 But when you pray, go to your room, close the door, and pray to your Father, who is unseen. And your Father, who sees what you do in private, will reward you.

7 "When you pray, do not use a lot of meaningless words, as the pagans do, who think that their gods will hear them because their prayers are long. 8 Do not be like them. Your Father already knows what you need before you ask him. 9 This, then, is how you should pray:

"Our Father in heaven: May your holy name be honored; 10 may your Kingdom come; may your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. 11 Give us today the food we need. 12 Forgive us the wrongs we have done, as we forgive the wrongs that others have done to us. 13 Do not bring us to hard testing, but keep us safe from the Evil One.'

14 "If you forgive others the wrongs they have done to you, your Father in heaven will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive others, then your Father will not forgive the wrongs you have done.

"Teaching about Fasting" - 16 "And when you fast, do not put on a sad face as the hypocrites do. They neglect their appearance so that everyone will see that they are fasting. I assure you, they have already been paid in full. 17 When you go without food, wash your face and comb your hair, 18 so that others cannot know that you are fasting -- only your Father, who is unseen, will know. And your Father, who sees what you do in private, will reward you.

"Riches in Heaven" - 19 "Do not store up riches for yourselves here on earth, where moths and rust destroy, and robbers break in and steal. 20 Instead, store up riches for yourselves in heaven, where moths and rust cannot destroy, and robbers cannot break in and steal. 21 For your heart will always be where your riches are.

"The Light of the Body" - 22 "The eyes are like a lamp for the body. If your eyes are sound, your whole body will be full of light; 23 but if your eyes are no good, your body will be in darkness. So if the light in you is darkness, how terribly dark it will be!

"God and Possessions" - 24 "No one can be a slave of two masters; he will hate one and love the other; he will be loyal to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.

25 "This is why I tell you: do not be worried about the food and drink you need in order to stay alive, or about clothes for your body. After all, isn't life worth more than food? And isn't the body worth more than clothes? 26 Look at the birds: they do not plant seeds, gather a harvest and put it in barns; yet your Father in heaven takes care of them! Aren't you worth much more than birds? 27 Can any of you live a bit longer by worrying about it?

28 "And why worry about clothes? Look how the wild flowers grow: they do not work or make clothes for themselves. 29 But I tell you that not even King Solomon with all his wealth had clothes as beautiful as one of these flowers. 30 It is God who clothes the wild grass -- grass that is here today and gone tomorrow, burned up in the oven. Won't he be all the more sure to clothe you? What little faith you have!

31 "So do not start worrying: "Where will my food come from? or my drink? or my clothes?' 32 (These are the things the pagans are always concerned about.) Your Father in heaven knows that you need all these things. 33 Instead, be concerned above everything else with the Kingdom of God and with what he requires of you, and he will provide you with all these other things. 34 So do not worry about tomorrow; it will have enough worries of its own. There is no need to add to the troubles each day brings.

Matthew 7

"Judging Others" - 1 "Do not judge others, so that God will not judge you, 2 for God will judge you in the same way you judge others, and he will apply to you the same rules you apply to others. 3 Why, then, do you look at the speck in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the log in your own eye? 4 How dare you say to your brother, "Please, let me take that speck out of your eye,' when you have a log in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite! First take the log out of your own eye, and then you will be able to see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

6 "Do not give what is holy to dogs -- they will only turn and attack you. Do not throw your pearls in front of pigs -- they will only trample them underfoot.

"Ask, Seek, Knock" - 7 "Ask, and you will receive; seek, and you will find; knock, and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks will receive, and anyone who seeks will find, and the door will be opened to him who knocks. 9 Would any of you who are fathers give your son a stone when he asks for bread? 10 Or would you give him a snake when he asks for a fish? 11 As bad as you are, you know how to give good things to your children. How much more, then, will your Father in heaven give good things to those who ask him!

Golden Rule - 12 "Do for others what you want them to do for you: this is the meaning of the Law of Moses and of the teachings of the prophets.

"The Narrow Gate" - 13 "Go in through the narrow gate, because the gate to hell is wide and the road that leads to it is easy, and there are many who travel it. 14 But the gate to life is narrow and the way that leads to it is hard, and there are few people who find it.

"A Tree and Its Fruit" - 15 "Be on your guard against false prophets; they come to you looking like sheep on the outside, but on the inside they are really like wild wolves. 16 You will know them by what they do. Thorn bushes do not bear grapes, and briers do not bear figs. 17 A healthy tree bears good fruit, but a poor tree bears bad fruit. 18 A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a poor tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 And any tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown in the fire. 20 So then, you will know the false prophets by what they do.

"I Never Knew You" - 21 "Not everyone who calls me "Lord, Lord' will enter the Kingdom of heaven, but only those who do what my Father in heaven wants them to do. 22 When the Judgment Day comes, many will say to me, "Lord, Lord! In your name we spoke God's message, by your name we drove out many demons and performed many miracles!' 23 Then I will say to them, "I never knew you. Get away from me, you wicked people!'

"The Two House Builders" - 24 "So then, anyone who hears these words of mine and obeys them is like a wise man who built his house on rock. 25 The rain poured down, the rivers flooded over, and the wind blew hard against that house. But it did not fall, because it was built on rock.

26 "But anyone who hears these words of mine and does not obey them is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27 The rain poured down, the rivers flooded over, the wind blew hard against that house, and it fell. And what a terrible fall that was!"

"The Authority of Jesus" - 28 When Jesus finished saying these things, the crowd was amazed at the way he taught. 29 He wasn't like the teachers of the Law; instead, he taught with authority.[/spoiler]

Jaslandia wrote:Congratulations to all who won the recent elections! I would also like to extend my gratitude to the voters of the CoFN for choosing me as one of the three Supreme Court Justices; I am honored to serve the region, and I will do my best to uphold the laws and Constitution of the Confederacy.

I echo Jas' comments and thanks, and I am very much looking forward to working alongside my fellow Justices.

Jaslandia, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

I will be joining roleplay but as Auxorii, not, as Kohalo.

Tserra, Percyton

I would like to congratulate all those who won in their elections, I for one would like to thank the region for giving me the opportunity to serve in the capacity of the First Minister of Internal Affairs under the new Constitution. I enjoy this victory and that of the victory of my love, Kalaron, in his election to the Supreme Court. We both thank all of you for this opportunity, and I will carry out my duties to the best of my abilities, as I believe he will as well.

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Andromitus, Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Sulania wrote:I would like to congratulate all those who won in their elections, I for one would like to thank the region for giving me the opportunity to serve in the capacity of the First Minister of Internal Affairs under the new Constitution. I enjoy this victory and that of the victory of my love, Kalaron, in his election to the Supreme Court. We both thank all of you for this opportunity, and I will carry out my duties to the best of my abilities, as I believe he will as well.

My new office can be found here: http://thecoffincofn.boards.net/thread/11/office-slaine-minister-internal-affairs

Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica, Percyton

Auxorii wrote:I will be joining roleplay but as Auxorii, not, as Kohalo.

I notice you and I have the same national animal.

Also, I find it funny that you wrote in place of religion, "officially secular but mostly Catholic." So of ever an issue refers to the head of the church in your nation, it will say something like, "Archbishop of officially secular but mostly Catholic." :P

Also, since you're the religious expert round here. Nuremgard's religion is Orthodox Christianity. Am I right in saying that is a Catholic denomination? Or at least an offshoot of Christianity heavily influenced/affiliated by Roman Catholicism?

Auxorii

I want to [I]formally[/I] congratulate Baxten, Kalaron, Jaslandia, Continental Commonwealths, South Hyder, Sulania, Andromitus, Cesorion, and Oelesa on their victories on this election.

I would also like to [I]profusely[/I] thank this region for allowing me to serve two terms as President. Not being booted out in another Vote of Confidence is all I that I could have ever asked for. <3

~VM

Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, South Hyder

Nuremgard wrote:I notice you and I have the same national animal.

Also, I find it funny that you wrote in place of religion, "officially secular but mostly Catholic." So of ever an issue refers to the head of the church in your nation, it will say something like, "Archbishop of officially secular but mostly Catholic." :P

Also, since you're the religious expert round here. Nuremgard's religion is Orthodox Christianity. Am I right in saying that is a Catholic denomination? Or at least an offshoot of Christianity heavily influenced/affiliated by Roman Catholicism?

Oh cool.

You stalking me or something? :P

Nope, you're absolutely 100% wrong on that. Orthodoxy happened after the Great Schism, when Christians differed over who should be the Pope (The Orthodox favored the Byzantine Emperor while the Catholics favored the already elected Cardinal or Bishop of Rome). It was the first major split in Christianity as well as the Reformation in the 1500s. However, I see your confusion. The Catholic Church is made up of 24 Churches, one Latin Church (or Roman) and 23 Eastern Churches, like the Byzantine Catholic Church or the Coptic Catholic Church of Egypt. These Churches are churches that usually keep their traditions and don't have to follow the guidelines set forth by Vatican II, but still recognize the Bishop of Rome (or Pope Francis currently) as the successor to St. Peter, thus they become "in communion with Rome". So no, Orthodoxy isn't a branch of Catholicism although some Eastern Catholic Churches (like the Byzantines) were influenced a lot by the Orthodoxy.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Auxorii wrote:[Spoiler=Then you're just being willingly ignorant]

Matthew 5

1 Jesus saw the crowds and went up a hill, where he sat down. His disciples gathered around him, 2 and he began to teach them:

"True Happiness" - 3 "Happy are those who know they are spiritually poor; the Kingdom of heaven belongs to them!

4 "Happy are those who mourn; God will comfort them!

5 "Happy are those who are humble; they will receive what God has promised!

6 "Happy are those whose greatest desire is to do what God requires; God will satisfy them fully!

7 "Happy are those who are merciful to others; God will be merciful to them!

8 "Happy are the pure in heart; they will see God!

9 "Happy are those who work for peace; God will call them his children!

10 "Happy are those who are persecuted because they do what God requires; the Kingdom of heaven belongs to them!

11 "Happy are you when people insult you and persecute you and tell all kinds of evil lies against you because you are my followers. 12 Be happy and glad, for a great reward is kept for you in heaven. This is how the prophets who lived before you were persecuted.

"Salt and Light" - 13 "You are like salt for all mankind. But if salt loses its saltiness, there is no way to make it salty again. It has become worthless, so it is thrown out and people trample on it.

14 "You are like light for the whole world. A city built on a hill cannot be hid. 15 No one lights a lamp and puts it under a bowl; instead he puts it on the lampstand, where it gives light for everyone in the house. 16 In the same way your light must shine before people, so that they will see the good things you do and praise your Father in heaven.

"Teaching about the Law" - 17 "Do not think that I have come to do away with the Law of Moses and the teachings of the prophets. I have not come to do away with them, but to make their teachings come true. 18 Remember that as long as heaven and earth last, not the least point nor the smallest detail of the Law will be done away with -- not until the end of all things. 19 So then, whoever disobeys even the least important of the commandments and teaches others to do the same, will be least in the Kingdom of heaven. On the other hand, whoever obeys the Law and teaches others to do the same, will be great in the Kingdom of heaven. 20 I tell you, then, that you will be able to enter the Kingdom of heaven only if you are more faithful than the teachers of the Law and the Pharisees in doing what God requires.

"Teaching about Anger" - 21 "You have heard that people were told in the past, "Do not commit murder; anyone who does will be brought to trial.' 22 But now I tell you: whoever is angry with his brother will be brought to trial, whoever calls his brother "You good-for-nothing!' will be brought before the Council, and whoever calls his brother a worthless fool will be in danger of going to the fire of hell. 23 So if you are about to offer your gift to God at the altar and there you remember that your brother has something against you, 24 leave your gift there in front of the altar, go at once and make peace with your brother, and then come back and offer your gift to God.

25 "If someone brings a lawsuit against you and takes you to court, settle the dispute with him while there is time, before you get to court. Once you are there, he will turn you over to the judge, who will hand you over to the police, and you will be put in jail. 26 There you will stay, I tell you, until you pay the last penny of your fine.

"Teaching about Adultery" - 27 "You have heard that it was said, "Do not commit adultery.' 28 But now I tell you: anyone who looks at a woman and wants to possess her is guilty of committing adultery with her in his heart. 29 So if your right eye causes you to sin, take it out and throw it away! It is much better for you to lose a part of your body than to have your whole body thrown into hell. 30 If your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away! It is much better for you to lose one of your limbs than to have your whole body go off to hell.

"Teaching about Divorce" - 31 "It was also said, "Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a written notice of divorce.' 32 But now I tell you: if a man divorces his wife for any cause other than her unfaithfulness, then he is guilty of making her commit adultery if she marries again; and the man who marries her commits adultery also.

"Teaching about Vows" - 33 "You have also heard that people were told in the past, "Do not break your promise, but do what you have vowed to the Lord to do.' 34 But now I tell you: do not use any vow when you make a promise. Do not swear by heaven, for it is God's throne; 35 nor by earth, for it is the resting place for his feet; nor by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. 36 Do not even swear by your head, because you cannot make a single hair white or black. 37 Just say "Yes' or "No' -- anything else you say comes from the Evil One.

"Teaching about Revenge" - 38 "You have heard that it was said, "An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.' 39 But now I tell you: do not take revenge on someone who wrongs you. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, let him slap your left cheek too. 40 And if someone takes you to court to sue you for your shirt, let him have your coat as well. 41 And if one of the occupation troops forces you to carry his pack one mile, carry it two miles. 42 When someone asks you for something, give it to him; when someone wants to borrow something, lend it to him.

"Love for Enemies" - 43 "You have heard that it was said, "Love your friends, hate your enemies.' 44 But now I tell you: love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 so that you may become the sons of your Father in heaven. For he makes his sun to shine on bad and good people alike, and gives rain to those who do good and to those who do evil. 46 Why should God reward you if you love only the people who love you? Even the tax collectors do that! 47 And if you speak only to your friends, have you done anything out of the ordinary? Even the pagans do that! 48 You must be perfect -- just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

Matthew 6

"Teaching about Charity" - 1 "Make certain you do not perform your religious duties in public so that people will see what you do. If you do these things publicly, you will not have any reward from your Father in heaven.

2 "So when you give something to a needy person, do not make a big show of it, as the hypocrites do in the houses of worship and on the streets. They do it so that people will praise them. I assure you, they have already been paid in full. 3 But when you help a needy person, do it in such a way that even your closest friend will not know about it. 4 Then it will be a private matter. And your Father, who sees what you do in private, will reward you.

"Teaching about Prayer" - 5 "When you pray, do not be like the hypocrites! They love to stand up and pray in the houses of worship and on the street corners, so that everyone will see them. I assure you, they have already been paid in full. 6 But when you pray, go to your room, close the door, and pray to your Father, who is unseen. And your Father, who sees what you do in private, will reward you.

7 "When you pray, do not use a lot of meaningless words, as the pagans do, who think that their gods will hear them because their prayers are long. 8 Do not be like them. Your Father already knows what you need before you ask him. 9 This, then, is how you should pray:

"Our Father in heaven: May your holy name be honored; 10 may your Kingdom come; may your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. 11 Give us today the food we need. 12 Forgive us the wrongs we have done, as we forgive the wrongs that others have done to us. 13 Do not bring us to hard testing, but keep us safe from the Evil One.'

14 "If you forgive others the wrongs they have done to you, your Father in heaven will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive others, then your Father will not forgive the wrongs you have done.

"Teaching about Fasting" - 16 "And when you fast, do not put on a sad face as the hypocrites do. They neglect their appearance so that everyone will see that they are fasting. I assure you, they have already been paid in full. 17 When you go without food, wash your face and comb your hair, 18 so that others cannot know that you are fasting -- only your Father, who is unseen, will know. And your Father, who sees what you do in private, will reward you.

"Riches in Heaven" - 19 "Do not store up riches for yourselves here on earth, where moths and rust destroy, and robbers break in and steal. 20 Instead, store up riches for yourselves in heaven, where moths and rust cannot destroy, and robbers cannot break in and steal. 21 For your heart will always be where your riches are.

"The Light of the Body" - 22 "The eyes are like a lamp for the body. If your eyes are sound, your whole body will be full of light; 23 but if your eyes are no good, your body will be in darkness. So if the light in you is darkness, how terribly dark it will be!

"God and Possessions" - 24 "No one can be a slave of two masters; he will hate one and love the other; he will be loyal to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.

25 "This is why I tell you: do not be worried about the food and drink you need in order to stay alive, or about clothes for your body. After all, isn't life worth more than food? And isn't the body worth more than clothes? 26 Look at the birds: they do not plant seeds, gather a harvest and put it in barns; yet your Father in heaven takes care of them! Aren't you worth much more than birds? 27 Can any of you live a bit longer by worrying about it?

28 "And why worry about clothes? Look how the wild flowers grow: they do not work or make clothes for themselves. 29 But I tell you that not even King Solomon with all his wealth had clothes as beautiful as one of these flowers. 30 It is God who clothes the wild grass -- grass that is here today and gone tomorrow, burned up in the oven. Won't he be all the more sure to clothe you? What little faith you have!

31 "So do not start worrying: "Where will my food come from? or my drink? or my clothes?' 32 (These are the things the pagans are always concerned about.) Your Father in heaven knows that you need all these things. 33 Instead, be concerned above everything else with the Kingdom of God and with what he requires of you, and he will provide you with all these other things. 34 So do not worry about tomorrow; it will have enough worries of its own. There is no need to add to the troubles each day brings.

Matthew 7

"Judging Others" - 1 "Do not judge others, so that God will not judge you, 2 for God will judge you in the same way you judge others, and he will apply to you the same rules you apply to others. 3 Why, then, do you look at the speck in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the log in your own eye? 4 How dare you say to your brother, "Please, let me take that speck out of your eye,' when you have a log in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite! First take the log out of your own eye, and then you will be able to see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

6 "Do not give what is holy to dogs -- they will only turn and attack you. Do not throw your pearls in front of pigs -- they will only trample them underfoot.

"Ask, Seek, Knock" - 7 "Ask, and you will receive; seek, and you will find; knock, and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks will receive, and anyone who seeks will find, and the door will be opened to him who knocks. 9 Would any of you who are fathers give your son a stone when he asks for bread? 10 Or would you give him a snake when he asks for a fish? 11 As bad as you are, you know how to give good things to your children. How much more, then, will your Father in heaven give good things to those who ask him!

Golden Rule - 12 "Do for others what you want them to do for you: this is the meaning of the Law of Moses and of the teachings of the prophets.

"The Narrow Gate" - 13 "Go in through the narrow gate, because the gate to hell is wide and the road that leads to it is easy, and there are many who travel it. 14 But the gate to life is narrow and the way that leads to it is hard, and there are few people who find it.

"A Tree and Its Fruit" - 15 "Be on your guard against false prophets; they come to you looking like sheep on the outside, but on the inside they are really like wild wolves. 16 You will know them by what they do. Thorn bushes do not bear grapes, and briers do not bear figs. 17 A healthy tree bears good fruit, but a poor tree bears bad fruit. 18 A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a poor tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 And any tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown in the fire. 20 So then, you will know the false prophets by what they do.

"I Never Knew You" - 21 "Not everyone who calls me "Lord, Lord' will enter the Kingdom of heaven, but only those who do what my Father in heaven wants them to do. 22 When the Judgment Day comes, many will say to me, "Lord, Lord! In your name we spoke God's message, by your name we drove out many demons and performed many miracles!' 23 Then I will say to them, "I never knew you. Get away from me, you wicked people!'

"The Two House Builders" - 24 "So then, anyone who hears these words of mine and obeys them is like a wise man who built his house on rock. 25 The rain poured down, the rivers flooded over, and the wind blew hard against that house. But it did not fall, because it was built on rock.

26 "But anyone who hears these words of mine and does not obey them is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27 The rain poured down, the rivers flooded over, the wind blew hard against that house, and it fell. And what a terrible fall that was!"

"The Authority of Jesus" - 28 When Jesus finished saying these things, the crowd was amazed at the way he taught. 29 He wasn't like the teachers of the Law; instead, he taught with authority.[/spoiler]

There's a difference between what you're claiming and staying on topic. You asked why I think Zoroastrianism is better than Catholicism, and I provided it to you.

Friedensreich wrote:There's a difference between what you're claiming and staying on topic. You asked why I think Zoroastrianism is better than Catholicism, and I provided it to you.

I was just countering.

Congratulations to the election winners! I'm sure you'll all do a great job, and that this will be a great government term!

Jaslandia, Penguania And Antarctica

Auxorii wrote:Oh cool.

You stalking me or something? :P

Nope, you're absolutely 100% wrong on that. Orthodoxy happened after the Great Schism, when Christians differed over who should be the Pope (The Orthodox favored the Byzantine Emperor while the Catholics favored the already elected Cardinal or Bishop of Rome). It was the first major split in Christianity as well as the Reformation in the 1500s. However, I see your confusion. The Catholic Church is made up of 24 Churches, one Latin Church (or Roman) and 23 Eastern Churches, like the Byzantine Catholic Church or the Coptic Catholic Church of Egypt. These Churches are churches that usually keep their traditions and don't have to follow the guidelines set forth by Vatican II, but still recognize the Bishop of Rome (or Pope Francis currently) as the successor to St. Peter, thus they become "in communion with Rome". So no, Orthodoxy isn't a branch of Catholicism although some Eastern Catholic Churches (like the Byzantines) were influenced a lot by the Orthodoxy.

I'm not stalking you I swear lol I just had a glance at your overview page out of curiosity.

Wow. And there was me thinking there was only one Catholic Church, the Roman one lol. I stand corrected.

But now I wonder. In Nuremgard, the Church has the Tsar as the Supreme Advocate (a title I just made up for the faith) which means the monarch is the governor and defender of the Christian religion in the land. The role is ceremonial as church matters are decided by the Most Holy Synod. However, back in the day, tsars did wield power to make ecumenical policy.

Would Norsk Orthodox Christians be in communion with Rome?

Jaslandia, United Continental States

Nuremgard wrote:I'm not stalking you I swear lol I just had a glance at your overview page out of curiosity.

Wow. And there was me thinking there was only one Catholic Church, the Roman one lol. I stand corrected.

But now I wonder. In Nuremgard, the Church has the Tsar as the Supreme Advocate (a title I just made up for the faith) which means the monarch is the governor and defender of the Christian religion in the land. The role is ceremonial as church matters are decided by the Most Holy Synod. However, back in the day, tsars did wield power to make ecumenical policy.

Would Norsk Orthodox Christians be in communion with Rome?

It's okay ;)

Yes, I was surprised as well. Now I actually go to a Byzantine Catholic Church, I'm more fond of the traditions and culture there. The Romans seem too modern for me (although I am a Roman Catholic)

They wouldn't, seeing how they don't recognize the Bishop of Rome, the Catechism and Canon Law as the supreme authority of the Church.

Friedensreich wrote:There's a difference between what you're claiming and staying on topic. You asked why I think Zoroastrianism is better than Catholicism, and I provided it to you.

I prefer None.

Nuremgard

Auxorii wrote:It's okay ;)

Yes, I was surprised as well. Now I actually go to a Byzantine Catholic Church, I'm more fond of the traditions and culture there. The Romans seem too modern for me (although I am a Roman Catholic)

They wouldn't, seeing how they don't recognize the Bishop of Rome, the Catechism and Canon Law as the supreme authority of the Church.

Ah, okay. The Tsar used to be viewed as a semi-divine figure, as God's scion on earth. This is why he held a lot of sway over church matters. But then a revolution happened and he got demoted to a ceremonial role as head of the church. So it would make sense for them not to be in communion with Rome, given the historical attitude towards the Tsar in terms of religious importance.

Technically, Auxorii is a constitutional monarchy as the Pope is the Head of State ceremonially and traditionally, but the actual leader is the Prime Minister.

Jaslandia, Vista Major

Nuremgard wrote:Ah, okay. The Tsar used to be viewed as a semi-divine figure, as God's scion on earth. This is why he held a lot of sway over church matters. But then a revolution happened and he got demoted to a ceremonial role as head of the church. So it would make sense for them not to be in communion with Rome, given the historical attitude towards the Tsar in terms of religious importance.

Yes, definitely would not be in communion with Rome if they view anything as divine outside of the Trinity and having "God's scion". That would be grounds for immediate excommunication in the Catholic Church.

Auxorii wrote:Technically, Auxorii is a constitutional monarchy as the Pope is the Head of State ceremonially and traditionally, but the actual leader is the Prime Minister.

Does the Pope live in Auxorii?

Jaslandia

[Spoiler=For a statement that preaches so much about hypocrites] "Teaching about Charity" - 1 "Make certain you do not perform your religious duties in public so that people will see what you do. If you do these things publicly, you will not have any reward from your Father in heaven.

"You are like light for the whole world. A city built on a hill cannot be hid. 15 No one lights a lamp and puts it under a bowl; instead he puts it on the lampstand, where it gives light for everyone in the house. 16 In the same way your light must shine before people, so that they will see the good things you do and praise your Father in heaven.[/spoiler]

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[spoiler=I mean, hypocritical again, seriously guys you have such clearly defined rules]"Teaching about Revenge" - 38 "You have heard that it was said, "An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.' 39 But now I tell you: do not take revenge on someone who wrongs you. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, let him slap your left cheek too. 40 And if someone takes you to court to sue you for your shirt, let him have your coat as well. 41 And if one of the occupation troops forces you to carry his pack one mile, carry it two miles. 42 When someone asks you for something, give it to him; when someone wants to borrow something, lend it to him.

"God and Possessions" - 24 "No one can be a slave of two masters; he will hate one and love the other; he will be loyal to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money. I mean seriously, your churches aren't even trying to hide there wealth, have you seen the popes head sofa?[/spoiler]

[Spoiler=Maybe the many Churches are bad readers?]"Riches in Heaven" - 19 "Do not store up riches for yourselves here on earth, where moths and rust destroy, and robbers break in and steal. 20 Instead, store up riches for yourselves in heaven, where moths and rust cannot destroy, and robbers cannot break in and steal. 21 For your heart will always be where your riches are.

>Churches

"Rats, foiled again"[/spoiler]

[spoiler=The power of spoilers compels you!]---

Evil One; Oh don't get me started on Satan -_- He's a limited power going up against Omniscience...so why does he even fight...his entire system of existence is illogical

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"The eyes are like a lamp for the body. If your eyes are sound, your whole body will be full of light; 23 but if your eyes are no good, your body will be in darkness. So if the light in you is darkness, how terribly dark it will be! - This is just a word salad

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"The Narrow Gate" - 13 "Go in through the narrow gate, because the gate to hell is wide and the road that leads to it is easy, and there are many who travel it. 14 But the gate to life is narrow and the way that leads to it is hard, and there are few people who find it. - Your god make it bigger, bit hard to justify yourself with Omnipotence, you should just be able to change logic universally...

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"So then, anyone who hears these words of mine and obeys them is like a wise man who built his house on rock. 25 The rain poured down, the rivers flooded over, and the wind blew hard against that house. But it did not fall, because it was built on rock. - Asking the impossible, how can you tell us to perform and obey the obvious when your rules are up for interpretation?

"But anyone who hears these words of mine and does not obey them is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27 The rain poured down, the rivers flooded over, the wind blew hard against that house, and it fell. And what a terrible fall that was!" - But there are so many, thousands on thousands of different sects of Christianity alone, how in any way shape or form can you direct us? The best logic is that only the righteous will know but who are they? Were they always righteous and if so whats the point of judging, let alone creating or even allowing the continued existence of the non-righteous to begin with...[/spoiler]

Vista Major, Friedensreich

Auxorii wrote:Yes, definitely would not be in communion with Rome if they view anything as divine outside of the Trinity and having "God's scion". That would be grounds for immediate excommunication in the Catholic Church.

Fair enough. Nuremgard was originally Catholic when I made it and the country had a special relationship with the Vatican. Popes used to travel from Italy to crown every new tsar. But I wanted to Russianise the nation more so I changed the religion to Orthodoxy.

Jaslandia

Andromitus wrote:

Think the bottom one broke

[spoiler=The power of spoilers compels you!]

Evil One; Oh don't get me started on Satan -_- He's a limited power going up against Omniscience...so why does he even fight...his entire system of existence is illogical

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"The eyes are like a lamp for the body. If your eyes are sound, your whole body will be full of light; 23 but if your eyes are no good, your body will be in darkness. So if the light in you is darkness, how terribly dark it will be! - This is just a word salad

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"The Narrow Gate" - 13 "Go in through the narrow gate, because the gate to hell is wide and the road that leads to it is easy, and there are many who travel it. 14 But the gate to life is narrow and the way that leads to it is hard, and there are few people who find it. - Your god make it bigger, bit hard to justify yourself with Omnipotence, you should just be able to change logic universally...

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"So then, anyone who hears these words of mine and obeys them is like a wise man who built his house on rock. 25 The rain poured down, the rivers flooded over, and the wind blew hard against that house. But it did not fall, because it was built on rock. - Asking the impossible, how can you tell us to perform and obey the obvious when your rules are up for interpretation?

"But anyone who hears these words of mine and does not obey them is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27 The rain poured down, the rivers flooded over, the wind blew hard against that house, and it fell. And what a terrible fall that was!" - But there are so many, thousands on thousands of different sects of Christianity alone, how in any way shape or form can you direct us? The best logic is that only the righteous will know but who are they? Were they always righteous and if so whats the point of judging, let alone creating or even allowing the continued existence of the non-righteous to begin with...[/spoiler]

Nuremgard, Vista Major, Friedensreich

Sulania wrote:I prefer None.

Good for you!

Nuremgard

Auxorii wrote:Technically, Auxorii is a constitutional monarchy as the Pope is the Head of State ceremonially and traditionally, but the actual leader is the Prime Minister.

How Britishly papal of you

Andromitus wrote:[Spoiler=For a statement that preaches so much about hypocrites] "Teaching about Charity" - 1 "Make certain you do not perform your religious duties in public so that people will see what you do. If you do these things publicly, you will not have any reward from your Father in heaven.

"You are like light for the whole world. A city built on a hill cannot be hid. 15 No one lights a lamp and puts it under a bowl; instead he puts it on the lampstand, where it gives light for everyone in the house. 16 In the same way your light must shine before people, so that they will see the good things you do and praise your Father in heaven.[/spoiler]

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[spoiler=I mean, hypocritical again, seriously guys you have such clearly defined rules]"Teaching about Revenge" - 38 "You have heard that it was said, "An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.' 39 But now I tell you: do not take revenge on someone who wrongs you. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, let him slap your left cheek too. 40 And if someone takes you to court to sue you for your shirt, let him have your coat as well. 41 And if one of the occupation troops forces you to carry his pack one mile, carry it two miles. 42 When someone asks you for something, give it to him; when someone wants to borrow something, lend it to him.

"God and Possessions" - 24 "No one can be a slave of two masters; he will hate one and love the other; he will be loyal to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money. I mean seriously, your churches aren't even trying to hide there wealth, have you seen the popes head sofa?[/spoiler]

[Spoiler=Maybe the many Churches are bad readers?]"Riches in Heaven" - 19 "Do not store up riches for yourselves here on earth, where moths and rust destroy, and robbers break in and steal. 20 Instead, store up riches for yourselves in heaven, where moths and rust cannot destroy, and robbers cannot break in and steal. 21 For your heart will always be where your riches are.

>Churches

"Rats, foiled again"[/spoiler]

[spoiler=The power of spoilers compels you!]---

Evil One; Oh don't get me started on Satan -_- He's a limited power going up against Omniscience...so why does he even fight...his entire system of existence is illogical

---

"The eyes are like a lamp for the body. If your eyes are sound, your whole body will be full of light; 23 but if your eyes are no good, your body will be in darkness. So if the light in you is darkness, how terribly dark it will be! - This is just a word salad

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"The Narrow Gate" - 13 "Go in through the narrow gate, because the gate to hell is wide and the road that leads to it is easy, and there are many who travel it. 14 But the gate to life is narrow and the way that leads to it is hard, and there are few people who find it. - Your god make it bigger, bit hard to justify yourself with Omnipotence, you should just be able to change logic universally...

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"So then, anyone who hears these words of mine and obeys them is like a wise man who built his house on rock. 25 The rain poured down, the rivers flooded over, and the wind blew hard against that house. But it did not fall, because it was built on rock. - Asking the impossible, how can you tell us to perform and obey the obvious when your rules are up for interpretation?

"But anyone who hears these words of mine and does not obey them is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27 The rain poured down, the rivers flooded over, the wind blew hard against that house, and it fell. And what a terrible fall that was!" - But there are so many, thousands on thousands of different sects of Christianity alone, how in any way shape or form can you direct us? The best logic is that only the righteous will know but who are they? Were they always righteous and if so whats the point of judging, let alone creating or even allowing the continued existence of the non-righteous to begin with...[/spoiler]

You're not seriously arguing that the Catholic Church goes against the Biblical teaching of charity because they're rich, are you?

Vista Major wrote:How Britishly papal of you

Never compare me to anything British again

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, United Continental States

Friedensreich wrote:Good for you!

If only some handsome Greek deity would whisk me away to Olympus.

Auxorii wrote:You're not seriously arguing that the Catholic Church goes against the Biblical teaching of charity because they're rich, are you?

You're not seriously thinking I'm arguing, are you?

Andromitus wrote:You're not seriously thinking I'm arguing, are you?

But you could say that, yes :D I just wanted to make sure that you knew the difference between pointing and arguing

Auxorii wrote:Never compare me to anything British again

This reminds me of something I read recently.

The comedian Dara O'Briain did a show with another comedian where they travel the world and try out different exotic traditions and customs.

The Guardian, in its perpetual outrage and unending need to defend the oppressed, complained bitterly about the show which showed two arrogant British men patronising the natives of various lands.

O'Briain called them out on their BS and said something along the lines of, "got to love the Guardian. In its rush to defend cultural sensibility, it inadvertently absorbed Ireland back into the British Empire by referring to us both as British."

Auxorii

Andromitus wrote:You're not seriously thinking I'm arguing, are you?

Andromitus wrote:But you could say that, yes :D I just wanted to make sure that you knew the difference between pointing and arguing

1) Catholic Charities are #1 in the United States for donations.

2) The Pope himself dresses as a Roman priest to go feed the homeless without being spotted

3) The reason the Vatican is so wealthy is because of it's priceless art and Mussolini's 'apology money' in the 30s after oppressing the Papal States for generations. Not because of tithing (which isn't required by Catholics, they instead donate to charity every week at mass (again voluntarily)) and hoarding money.

Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:If only some handsome Greek deity would whisk me away to Olympus.

I don't want a kebab boy, I want me a bearded beer boy.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, United Continental States

Nuremgard wrote:This reminds me of something I read recently.

The comedian Dara O'Briain did a show with another comedian where they travel the world and try out different exotic traditions and customs.

The Guardian, in its perpetual outrage and unending need to defend the oppressed, complained bitterly about the show which showed two arrogant British men patronising the natives of various lands.

O'Briain called them out on their BS and said something along the lines of, "got to love the Guardian. In its rush to defend cultural sensibility, it inadvertently absorbed Ireland back into the British Empire by referring to us both as British."

Oy vey. Yeah, I hate that. I also hate how it's the "British Isles"

Nuremgard

Auxorii wrote:Obviously doesn't know the difference

Auxorii wrote:Never compare me to anything British again

How British of you to dislike the use of the word British! :P

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, United Continental States

Auxorii wrote:1) Catholic Charities are #1 in the United States for donations.

2) The Pope himself dresses as a Roman priest to go feed the homeless without being spotted

3) The reason the Vatican is so wealthy is because of it's priceless art and Mussolini's 'apology money' in the 30s after oppressing the Papal States for generations. Not because of tithing (which isn't required by Catholics, they instead donate to charity every week at mass (again voluntarily)) and hoarding money.

Fun fact: The Scottish aristocrat John Crichton-Stuart donated money to Catholic charities because they helped everyone. He did not donate money to Protestant ones because they only helped Protestants.

Auxorii wrote:Oy vey. Yeah, I hate that. I also hate how it's the "British Isles"

I used to call it the British Isles until I read that the Irish really hate that.

Jaslandia, Auxorii

Friedensreich wrote:How British of you to dislike the use of the word British! :P

As a legally (unwilling) British citizen, I can assure you many of us on this island resent being called British!

Jaslandia, Auxorii, Friedensreich

Nuremgard wrote:I used to call it the British Isles until I read that the Irish really hate that.

Hey, I'll call them whatever they want if it makes those scrumptious gingers happy.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:As a legally (unwilling) British citizen, I can assure you many of us on this island resent being called British!

I had heard about that. People in the U.K. (or more specifically N. Ireland, Scotland, Wales and England for those that prefer national identities over their U.K. one) hate being considered as part of the other countries in the kingdom.

Way I understand it, Scots don't like being put together with the English, the English don't like being clumped up with the Northern Irish, etc.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia

Nuremgard wrote:Fun fact: The Scottish aristocrat John Crichton-Stuart donated money to Catholic charities because they helped everyone. He did not donate money to Protestant ones because they only helped Protestants.

Good story. Celtic FC was actually started by a Catholic priest to raise money for charity

Nuremgard

Friedensreich wrote:Hey, I'll call them whatever they want if it makes those scrumptious gingers happy.

I'm black Irish.

Andromitus wrote:Uses strawmen

Hey, I can do it too!

Friedensreich wrote:I had heard about that. People in the U.K. (or more specifically N. Ireland, Scotland, Wales and England for those that prefer national identities over their U.K. one) hate being considered as part of the other countries in the kingdom.

Way I understand it, Scots don't like being put together with the English, the English don't like being clumped up with the Northern Irish, etc.

Some Scots love being clumped together with the English. In a way I think some Scots wish they were English so they call themselves British and adopt English culture, customs and mannerisms as a sort of second best option.

Auxorii wrote:Good story. Celtic FC was actually started by a Catholic priest to raise money for charity

I heard that actually.

Jaslandia, Auxorii

Auxorii wrote:I'm black Irish.

Hey, I can do it too!

Dude my entire "argument" was strawmen Idk what you're trying to accomplish...

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