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Midland Odiaba wrote:Hi I am new

Howdy I am Tse. I eat toast. French toast crunch when stuff is going down. I do have an actual job around here, but eh....toast.

Merlinton, The Royal Republic Of Kumania, Andromitus, Oelesa, Kalaron, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona, United Continental States

Oelesa wrote:^ Some people just have it easy in government lol. I have 20 days for a case to make it to the courts. So someone do something bad lol.

I would suggest possibly making fluffy hair illegal but i got a hair cut yesterday so i dont have fluffy hair rn so idk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Midland Odiaba wrote:Hi I am new
Greetings! I'm your President round these parts. Pleasure to see you with us today ❤

Oelesa, Penguania And Antarctica

Midland Odiaba wrote:Hi I am new

Hi, I'm the PLR....there's nothing important about me. Just don't f*ck with me

....unless you're authoritarian then I'd fund you and we'd be besties!!!!!

Merlinton, Penguania And Antarctica

Post by Mauricil suppressed by a moderator.

Vista Major wrote:Oh no, that's terrible! :'( Glad you're still around

It's ok. I was able to remotely format both my comp and my phone (thank you Google), I'm still able to track my phone so I sent the data to the local PD, it should help speed things up.

Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica

Tserra wrote:So...the flag of the NGA?

Nice. :P

Finally, someone noticed.

As much as we give Silver, he designed some damn good flags.

The Union Of Yuktobanian Republics, Penguania And Antarctica, Tserra

Mauricil wrote:I couldnt care who you are. Join the RP and bring actual importance into my life and maybe we'll talk.

Oh Mauricil your way with words and looks underline my day like the sun shining behind a cloud, illuminating the bad times to come with joy and adventure as if our lives were a small trawler on a rough tide and you were the steadfast helmsman.

Penguania And Antarctica, Mauricil

Midland Odiaba wrote:Hi I am new

Hey buddy.

If you wish to roleplay, I'm a salesman for armaments for nearly the whole region so you won't find better quality than here :D

The only thing is, you can't use chemical weapons or commit serious war-crimes.

Penguania And Antarctica, Yukona

Kalaron wrote:Hey buddy.

If you wish to roleplay, I'm a salesman for armaments for nearly the whole region so you won't find better quality than here :D

The only thing is, you can't use chemical weapons or commit serious war-crimes.

....boring

Magnatronia

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:....boring

Says the edgelord.

Kalaron

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:....boring

I mean, sorry not all of us maybe use deathcamps in war?

Kalaron wrote:I mean, sorry not all of us maybe use deathcamps in war?

Well I'm not going to sugarcoat the reality of human nature and the innate beast that dwells in us all. I shall not restrict humans from being their true selves in times of war. That sucks and quite frankly, is contradictory to human nature like Communism. Besides, so what that I have camps? Such has always existed and will continue to exist.

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:Well I'm not going to sugarcoat the reality of human nature and the innate beast that dwells in us all. I shall not restrict humans from being their true selves in times of war. That sucks and quite frankly, is contradictory to human nature like Communism. Besides, so what that I have camps? Such has always existed and will continue to exist.

Very edgy, but irrelevant.

I never asked what you consider exciting, I just said that not everyone has deathcamps, and I certainly won't.

That was it, really.

Hey, Tse's Dark Brotherhood is back! :D

H A I L S I T H I S

Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Tserra, Dark Brotherhood Cfn

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:No. We're not primitive. Barbaric in times of war? Yes. But the General has outlawed child soldiers

With who are you at work now?

Guess whose back.....

Penguania And Antarctica

Latrovia wrote:With who are you at work now?

Am I at work? You mean war?

I am not at war with anybody right now.

Latrovia wrote:Guess whose back.....

Hey Lat.

How are you?

Kalaron wrote:Very edgy, but irrelevant.

I never asked what you consider exciting, I just said that not everyone has deathcamps, and I certainly won't.

That was it, really.

not irrelevant. You asked a question so I answered it. Simple Kindergarten grammar. Should know that.

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:not irrelevant. You asked a question so I answered it. Simple Kindergarten grammar. Should know that.

Sarcastic use of a question mark, a little more advanced than kindergarten, but you're apparently going to university and were born in America, should know that. :D

But yes, most of the time, when I ask a question and include "sorry", I'm being a bit sarcastic.

Kalaron wrote:Hey, Tse's Dark Brotherhood is back! :D

H A I L S I T H I S

Hail Sithis!

Penguania And Antarctica, Tserra

Lals Antielammureata wrote:Says the edgelord.

Oh hey there, I see your new and or have been away and I don't recognize you :D

I'm Andromitus but you can call me Andy, and feel free to contact me if you have any questions:!

Latrovia wrote:Guess whose back.....

Hey Lat :D

Dark Brotherhood Cfn wrote:Hail Sithis!

ANUMIDUM! Hail the Mind, Hail the Stone! ADWEMERITH!

Penguania And Antarctica

With role play I can be good at it since I am a amateur writer I could start a role play now just tell me what I need to do

Latrovia

Midland Odiaba wrote:With role play I can be good at it since I am a amateur writer I could start a role play now just tell me what I need to do
Um my suggestion, go at our forums and start a rp

Midland Odiaba wrote:With role play I can be good at it since I am a amateur writer I could start a role play now just tell me what I need to do

Or you can go here:

https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_confederacy_general

This is basically a general use RP zone for you to do general things such as announce policy changes or basic stuff your doing domestically :D

Oh, and your also going to want a map claim; https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=686028

Latrovia wrote:Um my suggestion, go at our forums and start a rp

That is it. Any other requirements.

Latrovia

Midland Odiaba wrote:

That is it. Any other requirements.

Well enjoy your stay here :)

Kalaron wrote:

Speaking of that since I don't use chemical weapons anymore is there a chance I could buy some weapons?

[spoiler=Today is June 12 and today are:]

Today is June 12 and today are:

- Chaco Armistice Day (Paraguay)

- Children's Day (Haiti)

- Dia dos Namorados (Brazil)

- Helsinki Day (Finland)

- Independence Day (Philippines)

- June 12 Commemoration (Lagos State)

- National Jerky Day (United States)

- National Loving Day (United States)

- National Peanut Butter Cookie Day (United States)

- National Red Rose Day (United States)

- Peace Day (Kosovo)

- Queen's Birthday/Sovereign's Birthday (Anguilla, Australia [except Queensland and Western Australia], Cook Islands, Solomon Islands, Turks and Caicos Islands)

- Russia Day (Russia)

- World Day Against Child Labour

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 910 – Battle of Augsburg: The Hungarians defeat the East Frankish army under King Louis the Child, using the famous feigned retreat tactic of the nomadic warriors.

- 1240 – At the instigation of Louis IX of France, an inter-faith debate, known as the Disputation of Paris, starts between a Christian monk and four rabbis.

- 1381 – Peasants' Revolt: In England, rebels arrive at Blackheath.

- 1418 – Armagnac–Burgundian Civil War: Parisians slaughter Bernard VII, Count of Armagnac and his suspected sympathizers, along with all prisoners, foreign bankers, and students and faculty of the College of Navarre.

- 1429 – Hundred Years' War: Joan of Arc leads the French army in their capture of the city and the English commander, William de la Pole, 1st Duke of Suffolk in the second day of the Battle of Jargeau.

- 1550 – The city of Helsinki, Finland (belonging to Sweden at the time) is founded by King Gustav I of Sweden.

- 1653 – First Anglo-Dutch War: The Battle of the Gabbard begins and lasts until June 13.

- 1665 – England installs a municipal government in New York City (the former Dutch settlement of New Amsterdam).

- 1758 – French and Indian War: Siege of Louisbourg: James Wolfe's attack at Louisbourg, Nova Scotia commences.

- 1772 – French explorer Marc-Joseph Marion du Fresne and 25 of his men killed by Māori in New Zealand

- 1775 – American Revolution: British general Thomas Gage declares martial law in Massachusetts. The British offer a pardon to all colonists who lay down their arms. There would be only two exceptions to the amnesty: Samuel Adams and John Hancock, if captured, were to be hanged.

- 1776 – The Virginia Declaration of Rights is adopted.

- 1798 – Irish Rebellion of 1798: Battle of Ballynahinch.

- 1864 – American Civil War, Overland Campaign: Battle of Cold Harbor: Ulysses S. Grant gives the Confederate forces under Robert E. Lee a victory when he pulls his Union troops from their position at Cold Harbor, Virginia and moves south.

- 1898 – Philippine Declaration of Independence: General Emilio Aguinaldo declares the Philippines' independence from Spain.

- 1899 – New Richmond tornado: The eighth deadliest tornado in U.S. history kills 117 people and injures around 200.

- 1935 – A ceasefire is negotiated between Bolivia and Paraguay, ending the Chaco War

- 1939 – Shooting begins on Paramount Pictures' Dr. Cyclops, the first horror film photographed in three-strip Technicolor.

- 1939 – The Baseball Hall of Fame opens in Cooperstown, New York.

- 1940 – World War II: Thirteen thousand British and French troops surrender to Major General Erwin Rommel at Saint-Valery-en-Caux.

- 1942 – Anne Frank receives a diary for her thirteenth birthday.

- 1943 – Holocaust: Germany liquidates the Jewish Ghetto in Brzeżany, Poland (now Berezhany, Ukraine). Around 1,180 Jews are led to the city's old Jewish graveyard and shot.

- 1944 – American paratroopers of the 101st Airborne Division secure the town of Carentan.

- 1954 – Pope Pius XII canonises Dominic Savio, who was 14 years old at the time of his death, as a saint, making him at the time the youngest unmartyred saint in the Roman Catholic Church. In 2017 Jacinta and Francisco Marto, aged 10 and 9 at the time of their deaths, are declared saints.

- 1963 – NAACP field secretary Medgar Evers is murdered in front of his home in Jackson, Mississippi by Ku Klux Klan member Byron De La Beckwith during the Civil Rights Movement.

- 1964 – Anti-apartheid activist and ANC leader Nelson Mandela is sentenced to life in prison for sabotage in South Africa.

- 1967 – The United States Supreme Court in Loving v. Virginia declares all U.S. state laws which prohibit interracial marriage to be unconstitutional.

- 1979 – Bryan Allen wins the second Kremer prize for a man powered flight across the English Channel in the Gossamer Albatross.

- 1987 – The Central African Republic's former Emperor Jean-Bédel Bokassa is sentenced to death for crimes he had committed during his 13-year rule.

- 1987 – Cold War: At the Brandenburg Gate U.S. President Ronald Reagan publicly challenges Mikhail Gorbachev to tear down the Berlin Wall.

- 1990 – Russia Day: The parliament of the Russian Federation formally declares its sovereignty.

- 1991 – Russians first democratically elected Boris Yeltsin as the President of Russia.

- 1991 – 1991 Kokkadichcholai massacre: The Sri Lankan Army massacres 152 minority Tamil civilians in the village of Kokkadichcholai near the eastern province town of Batticaloa.

- 1993 – An election takes place in Nigeria which is later annulled by the military Government led by Ibrahim Babangida.

- 1994 – Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Lyle "Ron" Goldman are murdered outside Simpson's home in Los Angeles. Her estranged husband, O.J. Simpson is later charged with the murders, but is acquitted by a jury.

- 1997 – Queen Elizabeth II reopens the Globe Theatre in London.

- 1999 – Kosovo War: Operation Joint Guardian begins when a NATO-led United Nations peacekeeping force (KFor) enters the province of Kosovo in Federal Republic of Yugoslavia.

- 2009 – A disputed presidential election in Iran leads to wide-ranging local and international protests.

- 2016 – Forty-nine civilians are killed and 53 others injured in an attack on a gay nightclub in Orlando, Florida; the gunman, Omar Mateen, was killed in a gunfight with police.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1806 – John A. Roebling, German-American engineer, designed the Brooklyn Bridge

- 1827 – Johanna Spyri, Swiss author

- 1890 – Egon Schiele, Austrian soldier and painter

- 1897 – Anthony Eden, English soldier and politician, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom

- 1899 – Fritz Albert Lipmann, German-American biochemist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1924 – George H. W. Bush, American lieutenant and politician, 41st President of the United States

- 1929 – Anne Frank, German-Dutch diarist; victim of the Holocaust

- 1941 – Roy Harper, English singer-songwriter, guitarist, and actor

- 1942 – Bert Sakmann, German physiologist and biologist, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1971 – Mark Henry, American weightlifter and wrestler

- 1981 – Adriana Lima, Brazilian model and actress

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Quote of the day

A true friend never gets in your way unless you happen to be going down.

- Arnold H. Glasow -

Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.

Vista Major, Andromitus

Andromitus wrote:Or you can go here:

https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_confederacy_general

This is basically a general use RP zone for you to do general things such as announce policy changes or basic stuff your doing domestically :D

Oh, and your also going to want a map claim; https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=686028

How do I put my country in the map.

Midland Odiaba wrote:How do I put my country in the map.

[spoiler=This is what it says on that page]

This page is where you will find the official map for The Confederacy Of Free Nations as well as the current geopolitical situations surrounding it. This map is for active nations who plan on participating in the region's RPs and other events, so don't take one of you don't plan on participating. Each nation takes a number, and that is considered their claim. Send your claim to me, [nation=short]Baxten[/nation], and I will give you your number when I am available. You may also claim to be a state within a nation (with the controlling nation's consent) or an insurrection in a nation (again, with the controlling nation(s)'s consent)[/spoiler]

I rank #1 ina totalitarian regime in the region

Magnatronia

Happy Russia Day to my Fellow Comrades Here !

Midland Odiaba

The Union Of Yuktobanian Republics wrote:Happy Russia Day to my Fellow Comrades Here !

Russia day?

The Union Of Yuktobanian Republics

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:
Kalaron wrote:

Low level clearance ones, like the Lynx-RC. Just so we're clear though, you can't sell chemical weapons either...or chemicals if you know they'll be used in chemical weaponry.

Midland Odiaba wrote:Russia day?

The anniversary of the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic declaring its sovereignty, on June 12 1990.

The Union Of Yuktobanian Republics

Post self-deleted by Miencraft.

I would like to announce that five counties along with myself have agreed to come together as part of an international organization known as CROSS, which stands for the:

Coalition for the

Rejuvenation of

Operational

Sovereign

States

CROSS is an economic, military, trading, information, intelligence, industrial international supranational organization. It is like if the EU/UN were to merge with NATO. CROSS is ONLY geared towards non-democratic countries. If you are interested in becoming part of this developing international organization then please send me a telegram stating your interest as well as your government structure. once you do that then I will bring up your membership to a vote to the other members.

Thank you.

The Empire Of Handland, Vista Major, Andromitus, Penguania And Antarctica, Magnatronia, Mauricil, Cantonese Republics

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:CROSS is ONLY geared towards non-democratic countries....once you do that then I will bring up your membership to a vote to the other members.

Seems like a pretty...democratic way of doing things, for countries that are not democratic, and avowedly so.

Vista Major, Andromitus, United Continental States

Killdash wrote:Seems like a pretty...democratic way of doing things, for countries that are not democratic, and avowedly so.

We love irony

Merlinton, Killdash, Andromitus, Cantonese Republics

Killdash wrote:Seems like a pretty...democratic way of doing things, for countries that are not democratic, and avowedly so.

Democratic in institution pertaining to giving a voice to authoritarians/totalitarian regimes to ensure mutual cooperation, collaboration, and advancements but not democratic in individual state governance.

Magnatronia wrote:We love irony

I'd have loved to be a fly on the wall in the conversation where a council of dictators, absolute monarchs and single party states found out that sometimes they could be over ruled by a vote of all things.

Andromitus

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:Democratic in institution pertaining to giving a voice to authoritarians/totalitarian regimes to ensure mutual cooperation, collaboration, and advancements but not democratic in individual state governance.

So top-level democracy amongst peers, but not amongst their peoples?

Killdash wrote:So top-level democracy amongst peers, but not amongst their peoples?

if that is what you would like to call it then sure.

Killdash wrote:I'd have loved to be a fly on the wall in the conversation where a council of dictators, absolute monarchs and single party states found out that sometimes they could be over ruled by a vote of all things.

Are you telling me I have to be evil? Well now I just want to be good!

Killdash

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:if that is what you would like to call it then sure.

But if you were calling democracy evil and/or unworkable in your state, wouldn't this look a little sketch to your populace?

Killdash wrote:But if you were calling democracy evil and/or unworkable in your state, wouldn't this look a little sketch to your populace?

And have you lose credibility as an organization abroad?

Killdash wrote:But if you were calling democracy evil and/or unworkable in your state, wouldn't this look a little sketch to your populace?

I am a military junta, idgaf about my populace. They stay in their place and quite frankly, the populace does not know anything pertaining to how CROSS operates and what CROSS does. It is none of their business as to what CROSS does. It is not sketch. Each member state has a common understanding that if our own individual states are to be able to preserve our national sovereignty, rule of law, national security, and national interest then we must come together and vote together and accordingly on implementing procedures and policies that ensures that our individual administrative government systems remain in tact, grow ever prosperous and productive. There are no elections in CROSS. And your membership is voted on to ensure that only the true and rather serious countries that want to contribute to this organization and wishes to not be undermined, manipulated, or exploited.

Mauricil

Andromitus wrote:And have you lose credibility as an organization abroad?

If CROSS is losing credibility as an organization abroad then why are there 8 countries in it already?

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:I am a military junta, idgaf about my populace. They stay in their place and quite frankly, the populace does not know anything pertaining to how CROSS operates and what CROSS does. It is none of their business as to what CROSS does. It is not sketch. Each member state has a common understanding that if our own individual states are to be able to preserve our national sovereignty, rule of law, national security, and national interest then we must come together and vote together and accordingly on implementing procedures and policies that ensures that our individual administrative government systems remain in tact, grow ever prosperous and productive. There are no elections in CROSS. And your membership is voted on to ensure that only the true and rather serious countries that want to contribute to this organization and wishes to not be undermined, manipulated, or exploited.

You're still voting on issues, even if you forgo the electing of a chairperson, (which will most probably cripple your meetings anyway). And not caring about your population is not a guarantee that they won't find out, especially in an RP context.

What if Killdashian spy's forment revolution by spreading the word that the government takes orders from others in an elected body? And tag to that that these decisions may sometimes not be in the national interest?

Killdash wrote:

You're still voting on issues, even if you forgo the electing of a chairperson, (which will most probably cripple your meetings anyway). And not caring about your population is not a guarantee that they won't find out, especially in an RP context.

What if Killdashian spy's forment revolution by spreading the word that the government takes orders from others in an elected body? And tag to that that these decisions may sometimes not be in the national interest?

Remember that Semaj has stated plenty of times that he will be running for US Presidency few years later... Never forget his military junta :P

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:If CROSS is losing credibility as an organization abroad then why are there 8 countries in it already?

Read what I wrote, How do you answer a general, non-serious question with another question? Did I ever say you were losing credibility? Nope, I said it was a possibility. And to answer your question, CROSS is very appealing to nondemocratic nations because it fills a very wanting niche role of safety and security —among other things— for them; I was talking about credibility with non-eligible states abroad. Its a democratic organization uniting nondemocratic nations, which is what Killdash was saying and what I'm finding kinda funny :D

Killdash wrote:You're still voting on issues, even if you forgo the electing of a chairperson, (which will most probably cripple your meetings anyway). And not caring about your population is not a guarantee that they won't find out, especially in an RP context.

What if Killdashian spy's forment revolution by spreading the word that the government takes orders from others in an elected body? And tag to that that these decisions may sometimes not be in the national interest?

my country does not allow for internet access to websites that are outside of my country. Furthermore, media coverage within my country is very restricted and regulated by the General himself. The same goes for education within my country. As far as a spy of yours "in my country", literally impossible. The PLR does not allow for travel and tourism from all countries and those that do visit are placed on a strict government-sponsored tour. Revolution will not come to the PLR but the PLR sends revolutions abroad. The National Interest of my country is the personal interest of my leader; therefore, once again, idgaf about the populace of my country. Now pertaining to CROSS, our decisions are based off of discussions and the brainstorming so that all members have an input and essentially a piece of the final product; therefore, a portion of everyone's national interest is part of the agenda of CROSS.

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:If CROSS is losing credibility as an organization abroad then why are there 8 countries in it already?

Because other alliances are the ones looking at you, not dictatorships?

Tbh, it's also a matter of it being the one made for it? It's still silly as hell.

Killdash wrote:You're still voting on issues, even if you forgo the electing of a chairperson, (which will most probably cripple your meetings anyway). And not caring about your population is not a guarantee that they won't find out, especially in an RP context.

What if Killdashian spy's forment revolution by spreading the word that the government takes orders from others in an elected body? And tag to that that these decisions may sometimes not be in the national interest?

Seriously, it seems pretty weird unless lol-populance is used.

Andromitus wrote:Read what I wrote, How do you answer a general, non-serious question with another question? Did I ever say you were losing credibility? Nope, I said it was a possibility. And to answer your question, CROSS is very appealing to nondemocratic nations because it fills a very wanting niche role of safety and security —among other things— for them; I was talking about credibility with non-eligible states abroad. Its a democratic organization uniting nondemocratic nations, which is what Killdash was saying and what I'm finding kinda funny :D

well it is working quite well as we are currently discussing policies.

Mauricil

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:well it is working quite well as we are currently discussing policies.

Kalaron wrote:Because other alliances are the ones looking at you, not dictatorships?

Tbh, it's also a matter of it being the one made for it? It's still silly as hell..

PLR I love you buddy, I really do, but your still not hearing me, so I'm quoting Kal because He's summing up what I'm trying to say very nicely <3

Andromitus wrote:PLR I love you buddy, I really do, but your still not hearing me, so I'm quoting Kal because He's summing up what I'm trying to say very nicely <3

ok

Kalaron wrote:Because other alliances are the ones looking at you, not dictatorships?

Tbh, it's also a matter of it being the one made for it? It's still silly as hell.

Seriously, it seems pretty weird unless lol-populance is used.

Seriously? Just cause he decides to have an authoritarian state where his citizens have no say, you decide to slap on the lol-population label? By that definition the entire CROSS alliance consists of lol-populations.

Merlinton

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:my country does not allow for internet access to websites that are outside of my country. Furthermore, media coverage within my country is very restricted and regulated by the General himself. The same goes for education within my country. As far as a spy of yours "in my country", literally impossible. The PLR does not allow for travel and tourism from all countries and those that do visit are placed on a strict government-sponsored tour. Revolution will not come to the PLR but the PLR sends revolutions abroad. The National Interest of my country is the personal interest of my leader; therefore, once again, idgaf about the populace of my country. Now pertaining to CROSS, our decisions are based off of discussions and the brainstorming so that all members have an input and essentially a piece of the final product; therefore, a portion of everyone's national interest is part of the agenda of CROSS.

Yeah dude, I don't think you can god-mod your country into an impenetrable fortress. Especially depending on where it is on the map. If it's not an island, the land border will be tricky to hold completely unmolested. I don't see how spying has been made "totally impossible". The spy wouldn't even necessarily be one of my own citizens. You could get a turncoat, especially if you have staff that regularly leave the country to participate in international events, (like CROSS) or I could seed a citizen. There are probability and dice roll mechanics that we use in RPs to get a measure of such events.

That's not to mention hacking and cyber warfare against your state computers, or your, I assume, centrally controlled internet access points, in order to moderate. And what about citizens finding things like the Dark Web? It happens...

And when it does, all this IDGAF isn't gonna look good to a leader that's ultimately in charge because of charisma or money, fleeting powers in a junta state.

Kalaron

Killdash wrote:Yeah dude, I don't think you can god-mod your country into an impenetrable fortress. Especially depending on where it is on the map. If it's not an island, the land border will be tricky to hold completely unmolested. I don't see how spying has been made "totally impossible". The spy wouldn't even necessarily be one of my own citizens. You could get a turncoat, especially if you have staff that regularly leave the country to participate in international events, (like CROSS) or I could seed a citizen. There are probability and dice roll mechanics that we use in RPs to get a measure of such events.

That's not to mention hacking and cyber warfare against your state computers, or your, I assume, centrally controlled internet access points, in order to moderate. And what about citizens finding things like the Dark Web? It happens...

And when it does, all this IDGAF isn't gonna look good to a leader that's ultimately in charge because of charisma or money, fleeting powers in a junta state.

So what's your point? Are you gonna start sending spies in? Go to war with him? Pretend he doesn't exist? Or are you gonna keep giving advice no one's asking for?

Magnatronia wrote:Seriously? Just cause he decides to have an authoritarian state where his citizens have no say, you decide to slap on the lol-population label? By that definition the entire CROSS alliance consists of lol-populations.

I want to point out, I'm not threatening anyone here, we're all a CFN family on this board, who fight and argue, but are there for each other end of the day.

But this is relevant for the RPs, where CFN family is not high up on my list of importance.

Again though, on this board, where I feel I exert my real feelings and personality, we are all a family of sorts.

Killdash wrote:Yeah dude, I don't think you can god-mod your country into an impenetrable fortress. Especially depending on where it is on the map. If it's not an island, the land border will be tricky to hold completely unmolested. I don't see how spying has been made "totally impossible". The spy wouldn't even necessarily be one of my own citizens. You could get a turncoat, especially if you have staff that regularly leave the country to participate in international events, (like CROSS) or I could seed a citizen. There are probability and dice roll mechanics that we use in RPs to get a measure of such events.

That's not to mention hacking and cyber warfare against your state computers, or your, I assume, centrally controlled internet access points, in order to moderate. And what about citizens finding things like the Dark Web? It happens...

And when it does, all this IDGAF isn't gonna look good to a leader that's ultimately in charge because of charisma or money, fleeting powers in a junta state.

I'm not God modding at all. I'm the DRC. Never said it was impossible. I'm telling you it's not easy as you're proclaiming it to be. I really dont give a f*ck honestly. That's the honest truth. IDC if you dont like how I run things. You can leak whatever you want well try to, but being under a military junta that isn't primitive, obviously I'll have methods to counter. You can hack as you please. there's nothing really there. By all means fly in pamphlets of why my General is so evil and that I'm being told what to do by CROSS when clearly I'm not and it's a group effort then be my guest. Whatever helps you sleep at night but your comments and criticisms are irrelevant pertaining to how I lead my country and what sort of organization I and other people make.

Magnatronia wrote:Seriously? Just cause he decides to have an authoritarian state where his citizens have no say, you decide to slap on the lol-population label? By that definition the entire CROSS alliance consists of lol-populations.

No, because saying "My people are all super-indoctrinated and ignore outside view points and we don't have free internet and spys don't work either and people won't ever find out that this is a democratic group we work within!" is something that requires you to fundamentally ignore things about humans. It's not because his populace can't vote, it's because he's making his nation (and people) into what NK tries to say it is, a nation where no one would ever second guess someone.

If that's your nation then I'm not really all that sorry to say that you have a lol-populace, not that that's grounds for eviction or nothing.

Magnatronia wrote:So what's your point? Are you gonna start sending spies in? Go to war with him? Pretend he doesn't exist? Or are you gonna keep giving advice no one's asking for?

Can't find him on the map, alas. If I could, I wouldn't mind doing some micro RP and such.

As for the advice, it's not intended as chastisement, just pointing out some things that new RPers might forget. And also I found the concept funny, so I commented to rib a little.

Killdash wrote:Can't find him on the map, alas. If I could, I wouldn't mind doing some micro RP and such.

As for the advice, it's not intended as chastisement, just pointing out some things that new RPers might forget. And also I found the concept funny, so I commented to rib a little.

I have claimed number 54.

Killdash, Mauricil

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:I'm not God modding at all. I'm the DRC. Never said it was impossible. I'm telling you it's not easy as you're proclaiming it to be. I really dont give a f*ck honestly. That's the honest truth. IDC if you dont like how I run things. You can leak whatever you want well try to, but being under a military junta that isn't primitive, obviously I'll have methods to counter. You can hack as you please. there's nothing really there. By all means fly in pamphlets of why my General is so evil and that I'm being told what to do by CROSS when clearly I'm not and it's a group effort then be my guest. Whatever helps you sleep at night but your comments and criticisms are irrelevant pertaining to how I lead my country and what sort of organization I and other people make.

Sure, sure, on the Gameplay side, I'd never tell a nation how to run their country. Part of the fun of NS is the "no consequences" mechanic.

But I had thought we were talking about RP side game mechanics, where all these things become very pertinent. In RPs, one almost controls a shadow puppet of your nation. Things may change in it, but nothing affects the Gameplay side. However, back in the shadow puppet, all these things I've described might have real consequences. Or they might not. That's why the very best RPs have independent judges who make decisions about the feelings and general mood swings of populaces. So a "leaflet attack" is just a empty, spiteful gesture here in GP, but in an RP, with (for example) your soldiers dying on foreign beaches, they might have more of an effect.

Cantonese Republics wrote:Are you telling me I have to be evil? Well now I just want to be good!

Oi, where are you on the map, my good sir?

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:I have claimed number 54.

Like I say, in the Gameplay here, I've no issues with what you do, it's how the game is played, and I'll be your friend on this forum as long as you're a genuine person, even if we disagree on ideas and methods.

Everything I've said above is about RP, which is a different beast.

Kalaron

Hey nerds, I finished that old factbook about my nation's "elite" fighting force, the Protomen

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=magnatronia/detail=factbook/id=827026

Merlinton

Friedensreich wrote:Oi, where are you on the map, my good sir?

He's my puppet and he's rather close to you :^)

Yukona wrote:He's my puppet and he's rather close to you :^)

So, wait, people can just make puppets and put them anywhere?

Doesn't sound game-breaking at all....

Peoples Liberation Republic, Andromitus

Friedensreich wrote:So, wait, people can just make puppets and put them anywhere?

Doesn't sound game-breaking at all....

I don't have any other RP nation so no it doesn't why?

Yukona wrote:I don't have any other RP nation so no it doesn't why?

Aside from the fact you're doing this simply to irk me, it seems hardly fair at all that one can have a main nation and a puppet in the same RP world.

Had I known this was a possibility, I would have simply created a puppet and taken over both the Hong Kong-Guangdong territory and my current one, boosting my numbers even more.

Friedensreich wrote:So, wait, people can just make puppets and put them anywhere?

Doesn't sound game-breaking at all....

A common misunderstanding; As far as I know, people need citizenship, and subsequent WA acquisition to gain a map claim. If a nation does not have WA nor citizenship they cannot join. There is a way to get around this however, as someone can submit a puppet nation in that doesn't have WA, however, they must announce its a puppet and the cartographer must have explicit information thereof.

Friedensreich wrote:Aside from the fact you're doing this simply to irk me, it seems hardly fair at all that one can have a main nation and a puppet in the same RP world.

Had I known this was a possibility, I would have simply created a puppet and taken over both the Hong Kong-Guangdong territory and my current one, boosting my numbers even more.

I think only one counts as an RP nation, in the strict sense.

Yukona

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Friedensreich wrote:Aside from the fact you're doing this simply to irk me, it seems hardly fair at all that one can have a main nation and a puppet in the same RP world.

Had I known this was a possibility, I would have simply created a puppet and taken over both the Hong Kong-Guangdong territory and my current one, boosting my numbers even more.

I just checked, Yukona's main nation isn't on the Map roster, only his puppet is

Yukona

10 member countries. Beautiful

Merlinton, The Empire Of Handland, Killdash, Vista Major, Andromitus, Yukona

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:10 member countries. Beautiful

Sounds like a neat program

Friedensreich wrote:Aside from the fact you're doing this simply to irk me, it seems hardly fair at all that one can have a main nation and a puppet in the same RP world.

Had I known this was a possibility, I would have simply created a puppet and taken over both the Hong Kong-Guangdong territory and my current one, boosting my numbers even more.

Nope, I done this without knowing you were to be my next door neighbor until I actually done it, the world doesn't revolve around you so go easy on how much credit you give yourself. I'm more than willing to be friendly with you. Also, I can have whatever nation I want in RP, I said - Yukona isn't in the RP and Siroccias withdrawn and I have only ever had one nation in the RP so your complaint isn't valid

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:10 member countries. Beautiful

Hey buddy...:)

Nice alliance you've got there.

Yukona

Killdash wrote:Hey buddy...:)

Nice alliance you've got there.

Yep, care to join us?

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:Yep, care to join us?

I believe the requirements require no democracy on a social level.

Killdash wrote:I believe the requirements require no democracy on a social level.

No duh.

Peoples Liberation Republic wrote:10 member countries. Beautiful

Dayum PLR you come in hear and now you have one of the largest alliances, nice :D

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:No duh.

Then I'm afraid I might not be a good fit for your movement.

Andromitus wrote:Dayum PLR you come in hear and now you have one of the largest alliances, nice :D

He just happens to have an aspect that others share.

Killdash wrote:Then I'm afraid I might not be a good fit for your movement.

You need to have something like a tyrannical or dictatorship like aspect for your government

Is this alliance a GP or an RP alliance?

Andromitus wrote:Dayum PLR you come in hear and now you have one of the largest alliances, nice :D

Thank you very much. All about establishing a meaningful movement for the glory of State Sovereignty and Security. No more undermining the Rule of Law and Order my friend.

Andromitus, Magnatronia

Killdash wrote:Is this alliance a GP or an RP alliance?

A little bit of both.

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:You need to have something like a tyrannical or dictatorship like aspect for your government

Nah my dude. Let my people go and all that Mosiac stuff.

Seriously though, only the assassin attributes fit anywhere close to the ideal.

Killdash wrote:Nah my dude. Let my people go and all that Mosiac stuff.

Seriously though, only the assassin attributes fit anywhere close to the ideal.

Or you could ask PLR and see if he'll let you.

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:A little bit of both.

What does this mean?

The Cross And Davids Star wrote:Or you could ask PLR and see if he'll let you.

I thought it was a vote to get in.

By the end of the day I will establish a RP

Vista Major, Andromitus

Killdash wrote:I thought it was a vote to get in.

Nope.

Yukona wrote:Nope, I done this without knowing you were to be my next door neighbor until I actually done it, the world doesn't revolve around you so go easy on how much credit you give yourself. I'm more than willing to be friendly with you. Also, I can have whatever nation I want in RP, I said - Yukona isn't in the RP and Siroccias withdrawn and I have only ever had one nation in the RP so your complaint isn't valid

It doesn't, and I don't think I've made any sort of inclincation that it did. That said, it is perfectly within my right to get salty when I have a new neighbor, especially when I have repeatedly said that I don't like having neighboring nations so long as I can help it.

Is it wrong for me to get irked that I now have to keep a more keen on eye my southern border?

Is it wrong for me to get a little annoyed that I now have to worry about a rival in Eastern Asia?

The short answer to both of these is "No".

Midland Odiaba wrote:By the end of the day I will establish a RP

How exciting!

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