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Lex Caledonia wrote:The only thing I do out of respect is stopping as a funeral procession passes, everyone in my home town always did it, sort of a respect for humanity as opposed to respect for authority.

Well, I don't do it because I have respect of authority. I do it because I respect all nations and all people regardless where they are coming from. I think it's a neat tradition.

But if you wear a headdress and you enter a church would you remove it or keep it on?

Axeldonia wrote:Or maybe traditions, rituals and patriotism are ill-fitting concepts in an increasingmy international and cosmopolitan world. As for the lies/deceptions thing, the US have done enough things in broad daykight to warrant not being proud of it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_Orange

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-union_violence_in_the_United_States

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_segregation_in_the_United_States

Not really what I meant but I'll explain that in a second, as for the other bit, you're entitled to your opinion so I won't really argue with it tbh.

Now, as to the bit on what we've done? What you posted was completely irrelevant honestly >.>

The primary mechanism stretching back in my opinion was the decreasing trust in government that resulted from misconceptions like "Iraq didn't have WMDs" that were never corrected for the general public. Most people still don't realize they did because most news organizations didn't find the time to correct their longstanding -and then unintentional- misinformation with the more accurate version of events. Beyond that, we've already discussed enough on other mediums to showcase that the typical american outlook on the war -or rather, occupation- is flawed in the information rendered. Most people, by virtue of the news, don't understand how close we were to a better stabilized Iraq for instance, nor do they understand that our time spent in the intervention of places like Afghanistan isn't for the military to get sick kicks from, but is a prerequisite to a functional deployment of COIN.

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Jesus. Mary. And. Jay. Z. Fried! I’m surprised to see that Left Libertarian wasn’t first for you. Yeah, it’s a close second, but still.

Oh come on, anarchists are nutjobs :P

But really though, Marxism is pretty flexible (this is clearly true because we have had totalitarian dictatorships that claimed to be Marxist when Marx clearly praised democracy and civilian empowerment). I'm still pretty anti-big government, but not so much as one of the looney AnComs anymore.

Nuremgard

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Well, I don't do it because I have respect of authority. I do it because I respect all nations and all people regardless where they are coming from. I think it's a neat tradition.

But if you wear a headdress and you enter a church would you remove it or keep it on?

Oh come on, keep the headdress on. It's whimsical and livens up an otherwise pretty boring place.

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:Well, I don't do it because I have respect of authority. I do it because I respect all nations and all people regardless where they are coming from. I think it's a neat tradition.

But if you wear a headdress and you enter a church would you remove it or keep it on?

When I went to church when I still did, people took off their hats more as a comfort thing I imagine.

Guess what

Moth lore

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=axeldonia/detail=factbook/id=867432

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Lex Caledonia

New Salvatore's biggest industry is tourism. Who knew being an oppressive, Catholic, absolutist monarchy was good for tourism?

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Spanelsko

Nuremgard wrote:New Salvatore's biggest industry is tourism. Who knew being an oppressive, Catholic, absolutist monarchy was good for tourism?

Gotta love the danger behind visiting nations like that

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Spanelsko

Russkov Soviet wrote:Gotta love the danger behind visiting nations like that

Maybe it's a turn on for some.

Russkov Soviet

Lex Caledonia wrote:When I went to church when I still did, people took off their hats more as a comfort thing I imagine.

It's actual etiquettes. When I was an England with my class and we visited Canterbury Cathedral there was this lady at the entrance that "kindly" reminded me to take off my bonnet/beanie.

[spoiler=Today is February 20 and today are:]

Today is February 20 and today are:

- Day of Heavenly Hundred Heroes (Ukraine)

- National Cherry Pie Day (United States)

- National Handcuff Day (United States)

- National Love Your Pet Day (United States)

- Northern Hemisphere Hoodie Hoo Day

- World Day of Social Justice

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[spoiler=This day in history:]

This day in history:

- 1339 – The Milanese army and the St. George's (San Giorgio) Mercenaries of Lodrisio Visconti clashed in the Battle of Parabiago.

- 1472 – Orkney and Shetland are pawned by Norway to Scotland in lieu of a dowry for Margaret of Denmark.

- 1547 – Edward VI of England is crowned King of England at Westminster Abbey.

- 1685 – René-Robert Cavelier establishes Fort St. Louis at Matagorda Bay thus forming the basis for France's claim to Texas.

- 1792 – The Postal Service Act, establishing the United States Post Office Department, is signed by United States President George Washington.

- 1798 – Louis-Alexandre Berthier removes Pope Pius VI from power.

- 1810 – Andreas Hofer, Tirolean patriot and leader of rebellion against Napoleon's forces, is executed.

- 1813 – Manuel Belgrano defeats the royalist army of Pío de Tristán during the Battle of Salta.

- 1816 – Rossini's opera The Barber of Seville premieres at the Teatro Argentina in Rome.

- 1835 – The 1835 Concepción earthquake destroys Concepción, Chile.

- 1846 – Polish insurgents lead an uprising in Kraków to incite a fight for national independence.

- 1864 – American Civil War: Battle of Olustee: The largest battle fought in Florida during the war.

- 1865 – End of the Uruguayan War, with a peace agreement between President Tomás Villalba and rebel leader Venancio Flores, setting the scene for the destructive War of the Triple Alliance.

- 1872 – The Metropolitan Museum of Art opens in New York City.

- 1877 – Tchaikovsky's ballet Swan Lake receives its premiere at the Bolshoi Theatre in Moscow.

- 1901 – The legislature of Hawaii Territory convenes for the first time.

- 1909 – Publication of the Futurist Manifesto in the French journal Le Figaro.

- 1913 – King O'Malley drives in the first survey peg to mark commencement of work on the construction of Canberra.

- 1921 – The Young Communist League of Czechoslovakia is founded.

- 1931 – The Congress of the United States approves the construction of the San Francisco–Oakland Bay Bridge by the state of California.

- 1933 – The Congress of the United States proposes the Twenty-first Amendment to the United States Constitution that will end Prohibition in the United States.

- 1933 – Adolf Hitler secretly meets with German industrialists to arrange for financing of the Nazi Party's upcoming election campaign.

- 1935 – Caroline Mikkelsen becomes the first woman to set foot in Antarctica.

- 1942 – Lieutenant Edward O'Hare becomes America's first World War II flying ace.

- 1943 – American movie studio executives agree to allow the Office of War Information to censor movies.

- 1943 – The Saturday Evening Post publishes the first of Norman Rockwell's Four Freedoms in support of United States President Franklin Roosevelt's 1941 State of the Union address theme of Four Freedoms.

- 1944 – World War II: The "Big Week" began with American bomber raids on German aircraft manufacturing centers.

- 1944 – World War II: The United States takes Eniwetok Island.

- 1952 – Emmett Ashford becomes the first African-American umpire in organized baseball by being authorized to be a substitute umpire in the Southwestern International League.

- 1956 – The United States Merchant Marine Academy becomes a permanent Service Academy.

- 1959 – The Avro Arrow program to design and manufacture supersonic jet fighters in Canada is cancelled by the Diefenbaker government amid much political debate.

- 1962 – Mercury program: While aboard Friendship 7, John Glenn becomes the first American to orbit the earth, making three orbits in four hours, 55 minutes.

- 1965 – Ranger 8 crashes into the Moon after a successful mission of photographing possible landing sites for the Apollo program astronauts.

- 1967 – Intergovernmental Group on Indonesia convenes its first meeting in Amsterdam.

- 1971 – The United States Emergency Broadcast System is accidentally activated in an erroneous national alert.

- 1979 – Earthquake cracks Sinila volcanic crater in Dieng Plateau, releases poisonous H2S gas and kills 149 villagers in Indonesian province of Central Java.

- 1986 – The Soviet Union launches its Mir spacecraft. Remaining in orbit for 15 years, it is occupied for ten of those years.

- 1988 – The Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast votes to secede from Azerbaijan and join Armenia, triggering the Nagorno-Karabakh War.

- 1991 – A gigantic statue of Albania's long-time leader, Enver Hoxha, is brought down in the Albanian capital Tirana, by mobs of angry protesters.

- 1998 – American figure skater Tara Lipinski becomes the youngest gold-medalist at the 1998 Winter Olympics in Nagano, Japan.

- 2003 – During a Great White concert in West Warwick, Rhode Island, a pyrotechnics display sets the Station nightclub ablaze, killing 100 and injuring over 200 others.

- 2005 – Spain becomes the first country to vote in a referendum on ratification of the proposed Constitution of the European Union, passing it by a substantial margin, but on a low turnout.

- 2009 – Two Tamil Tigers aircraft packed with C4 explosives en route to the national airforce headquarters are shot down by the Sri Lankan military before reaching their target, in a kamikaze style attack.

- 2010 – In Madeira Island, Portugal, heavy rain causes floods and mudslides, resulting in at least 43 deaths, in the worst disaster in the history of the archipelago.

- 2014 – Dozens of Euromaidan anti-government protesters died in Ukraine's capital Kiev, many reportedly killed by snipers.

- 2015 – Two trains collide in the Swiss town of Rafz resulting in as many as 49 people injured and Swiss Federal Railways cancelling some services.

- 2016 – Six people are killed and two injured in multiple shooting incidents in Kalamazoo County, Michigan.

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[spoiler=Famous Birthdays:]

Famous Birthdays:

- 1819 – Alfred Escher, Swiss businessman and politician

- 1844 – Joshua Slocum, Canadian sailor and adventurer

- 1902 – Ansel Adams, American photographer and environmentalist

- 1909 – Heinz Erhardt, German comedian, musician, entertainer, actor, and poet

- 1920 – Karl Albrecht, German businessman, co-founded Aldi

- 1925 – Robert Altman, American director and screenwriter

- 1927 – Sidney Poitier, American actor, director, and diplomat

- 1937 – Robert Huber, German biochemist and academic, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1945 – George Smoot, American astrophysicist and cosmologist, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1948 – Christopher A. Pissarides, British-Cypriot economist, Nobel Prize laureate

- 1951 – Gordon Brown, Scottish historian and politician, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom

- 1966 – Cindy Crawford, American model and businesswoman

- 1967 – Kurt Cobain, American singer-songwriter and guitarist (Nirvana)

- 1969 – Danis Tanović, Bosnian director and screenwriter

- 1976 – Jan Delay, German singer, songwriter, and producer

- 1980 – Arthur Abraham, Armenian-German professional boxer

- 1988 – Rihanna, Barbadian-American singer-songwriter and actress

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Quote of the day

I often quote myself. It adds spice to my conversation

- George Bernard Shaw (Irish Dramatist, 1856-1950) -

Note: Penguania_And_Antarctica assumes no responsibility or guarantee for correctness of any given information. Any recourse to courts of law is excluded.

Jaslandia, Vista Major, Axeldonia, Kalaron, Lex Caledonia, Mercunova

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:

- 1927 – Sidney Poitier, American actor, director, and diplomat

https://youtu.be/r0hytuh6GIk?t=1m

Penguania And Antarctica wrote:

Quote of the day

I often quote myself. It adds spice to my conversation

- George Bernard Shaw (Irish Dramatist, 1856-1950) -

"Huh. That's an interesting quote." - Jaslandia (American NationStates Player, 2013- ) -

Vista Major, Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova

Jaslandia wrote:https://youtu.be/r0hytuh6GIk?t=1m

"Huh. That's an interesting quote." - Jaslandia (American NationStates Player, 2013- ) -

I didn't know you were born in 2013 :P

Jaslandia, Spanelsko

Nuremgard wrote:New Salvatore's biggest industry is tourism. Who knew being an oppressive, Catholic, absolutist monarchy was good for tourism?

Largest industry doesn't always imply a thriving one 💁

Vista Major wrote:Largest industry doesn't always imply a thriving one 💁

Over 3,000 tourists arriving to the country per hour says otherwise.

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia

Kalaron wrote:I didn't know you were born in 2013 :P

Lol. I wasn't born in 2013 (I wouldn't be using this website if I was), but my nation was 'born' in 2013, so I'm using that.

Russkov Soviet, Nuremgard, Lavan Tiri, Au Minbo, Penguania And Antarctica

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Never mind Nurem. Found it. I'm averaging 2,500 tourists per hour.

Nuremgard, Lavan Tiri

Russkov Soviet wrote:Never mind Nurem. Found it. I'm averaging 2,500 tourists per hour.

Nice one! Our tourist rate continues to rise.

Russkov Soviet, Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:Who knew being an oppressive, Catholic, absolutist monarchy was good for tourism?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Vatican_City

Nuremgard, Lavan Tiri, Axeldonia

Gualimole wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Vatican_City

The new King has a reformist policy platform which will hopefully attract more tourists.

Lavan Tiri

Nuremgard wrote:The new King has a reformist policy platform which will hopefully attract more tourists.

Okay, Pope Francis.

Lavan Tiri, Mercunova

Gualimole wrote:Okay, Pope Francis.

Hey, he's a liberal. Well, as liberal as you can get in a Catholic, absolute monarchical country.

Lavan Tiri

Gualimole wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Vatican_City

Interestingly, the pope is actually the world's only elected absolute monarch.

Nuremgard, Lavan Tiri, Gualimole

Axeldonia wrote:Interestingly, the pope is actually the world's only elected absolute monarch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD6qtc2_AQA

King of New Sal: Elected? Pfft. Soft touch. True rulers aren't elected. They're born to rule.

Lavan Tiri, Axeldonia

Kalaron wrote:I've seen it too. Over here I think it's the result of a few unfortunate things tbqf like the degeneration of media, the lack of patriotism from continued misconceptions -deceptions?- about our latest wars and the simple fact that this generation is more insular than before.

Your media has always been f*cked, you’re the most openly patriotic Western nationality I can think of, you illegally invaded a country

Axeldonia, Penguania And Antarctica

Yukona wrote:Your media has always been f*cked, you’re the most openly patriotic Western nationality I can think of, you illegally invaded a country

To be fair, the British media is f*cked too. Very right-wing, hysterical, anti-leftist and sycophantic to the royals. The UK also illegally invaded Iraq.

Axeldonia

Nuremgard wrote:To be fair, the British media is f*cked too. Very right-wing, hysterical, anti-leftist and sycophantic to the royals. The UK also illegally invaded Iraq.
The BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and Sky all offer great and lawfully[/I] required unbiased coverage. Print media is diverse enough that you can pick and chose. The American media is controlled by five companies (90%) and heavily invested in politics and often have hidden funds and agenda setters behind them. This occurs in all media but in the US the media generally being pretty poor is not new. Also, this isn’t a sh*t throwing competition between the US and the UK, they’re separate issues in my opinion.

P.S in reference to the above where did I say Britain didn’t invade Iraq illegally?

Axeldonia, Continental Commonwealths, Penguania And Antarctica

Yukona wrote:The BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and Sky all offer great and lawfully[/] required unbiased coverage. Print media is diverse enough that you can pick and chose. The American media is controlled by five companies (90%) and heavily invested in politics and often have hidden funds and agenda setters behind them. This occurs in all media but in the US the media generally being pretty poor is not new. Also, this isn’t a sh*t throwing competition between the US and the UK, they’re separate issues in my opinon.

BBC unbiased? Come off it, mate. The BBC is up the government's arse. And Rupert Murdoch owns a lot of British media. I don't think they're separate. Blair was Bush's poodle.

Axeldonia

Nuremgard wrote:BBC unbiased? Come off it, mate. The BBC is up the government's arse. And Rupert Murdoch owns a lot of British media. I don't think they're separate. Blair was Bush's poodle.

Where did I say that Rupert Murdoch didn’t (he owns Sky and a few papers not 90% owned by 5 like in the US). The BBC is by law required like all other televised news broadcasters to be unbiased and they can get in a lot of trouble if they don’t. Generally speaking issues of bias are often reported and dealt with quickly, in fact they run a show where they analyse feedback, discuss how they’re sorry and will fix it and show where they went wrong - although it has its problems (this isn’t what I’m even making a point about) - which is a very transparent system. As well as this, American news is not conducted like this and is very bipartisan and often in the pockets of interest groups.

Axeldonia, Continental Commonwealths, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:BBC unbiased? Come off it, mate. The BBC is up the government's arse. And Rupert Murdoch owns a lot of British media. I don't think they're separate. Blair was Bush's poodle.

Is it just me, or does everyone accuse the BBC of bias against them? If they are all right, then the BBC is doing its job pretty well.

Jaslandia, Yukona

Nuremgard wrote:Blair was Bush's poodle.

I’m glad you don’t think they’re separate and that’s fantastic but I don’t think I want to argue over a point I’m not making. I was simply telling Kal that his countries state is nothing new, where at all did I insinuate that Britain was perfect?

Continental Commonwealths

Yukona wrote:Your media has always been f*cked, you’re the most openly patriotic Western nationality I can think of, you illegally invaded a country

I don't think you understood my original point or read my explanation of it. The media isn't f*cked because they lied, but that they didn't correct themselves on a pretty exigent point. Furthermore, I think we're having a touch of misunderstanding there, I haven't seen very many people (This could be the result of me living in Mass, however) with a trust in the government since about 2003 since very few full accounts of the war were ever actually examined once things got declassified, I will agree that they've been garbage for a long time though. Lastly, Iraq had kinda already violated Resolution 1441 and it's preceding declarations anyway so the illegality of the operation is more "questionable" than anything tbh.

Gualimole wrote:Is it just me, or does everyone accuse the BBC of bias against them? If they are all right, then the BBC is doing its job pretty well.

Exactly.

Gualimole

Yukona wrote:Where did I say that Rupert Murdoch didn’t (he owns Sky and a few papers not 90% owned by 5 like in the US). The BBC is by law required like all other televised news broadcasters to be unbiased and they can get in a lot of trouble if they don’t. Generally speaking issues of bias are often reported and dealt with quickly, in fact they run a show where they analyse feedback, discuss how they’re sorry and will fix it and show where they went wrong - although it has its problems (this isn’t what I’m even making a point about) - which is a very transparent system. As well as this, American news is not conducted like this and is very bipartisan and often in the pockets of interest groups.

I'm not surprised you love the BBC and defend it. Many Brits love it blindly and cant think anything bad of it. I for one cant stand the BBC. If you'd been a Scot in 2014, you sure as hell would not have thought the BBC or television media was impartial then.

Axeldonia

Gualimole wrote:Is it just me, or does everyone accuse the BBC of bias against them? If they are all right, then the BBC is doing its job pretty well.

I hear this a lot. Hard to argue with I guess. Whatever. I'm just glad I don't pay my license towards their sh!t.

Yukona wrote:I’m glad you don’t think they’re separate and that’s fantastic but I don’t think I want to argue over a point I’m not making. I was simply telling Kal that his countries state is nothing new, where at all did I insinuate that Britain was perfect?

I never said you insinuated that Britain was perfect. I was merely saying that the problems you said affected the US media affects our media too.

Nuremgard wrote:I hear this a lot. Hard to argue with I guess. Whatever. I'm just glad I don't pay my license towards their sh!t.

If you cannot argue against a certain point, then why don't you further examine the point made and maybe decide to change your mind? From what I have seen of you, you are far too set in your views. Perhaps some self-inspection could improve your views and you as a person.

Yukona

Nuremgard wrote:I'm not surprised you love the BBC and defend it. Many Brits love it blindly and cant think anything bad of it. I for one cant stand the BBC. If you'd been a Scot in 2014, you sure as hell would not have thought the BBC or television media was impartial then.
That right there is a you problem, mate.

I don’t love the BBC unconditionally - please cut down on assumptions, I’ve witnessed their corruption and also their bias - but it’s dealt with quickly and effectively because they’re legally bound , let me reiterate legally, to be neutral just like all other television media. If you think the BBCs sh*te just look at American media then you’ll feel it, the reason you don’t like it is because it’s neutral and doesn’t support your echo chamber as far as I can imagine, but again - it’s a you problem. And how many times have I said it, I haven’t said anywhere the UK or BBC is impeccable - I was talking exclusively about the bad state of American media, I don’t think the BBC is 100% corruption free it’s iust probably the best it can be in our society, I don’t care about it to be honest. I am not arguing for this, you’re simply trying to strawman me into getting into a debate over the UK

Continental Commonwealths

Gualimole wrote:If you cannot argue against a certain point, then why don't you further examine the point made and maybe decide to change your mind? From what I have seen of you, you are far too set in your views. Perhaps some self-inspection could improve your views and you as a person.

Yes, I am set in my views. And no, I wont change my mind about the BBC.

Kalaron, Mercunova, Confederal States

Nuremgard wrote:I hear this a lot. Hard to argue with I guess. Whatever. I'm just glad I don't pay my license towards their sh!t.

I never said you insinuated that Britain was perfect. I was merely saying that the problems you said affected the US media affects our media too.

I said America’s bad at “X”, discuss about “X” and the response is “yeah so! Britain sucks at “Y”! Like, OK? Not my problem mate, not what I’m chatting mate.

Yukona wrote:That right there is a you problem, mate.

I don’t love the BBC unconditionally - please cut down on assumptions, I’ve witnessed their corruption and also their bias - but it’s dealt with quickly and effectively because they’re legally bound , let me reiterate legally, to be neutral just like all other television media. If you think the BBCs sh*te just look at American media then you’ll feel it, the reason you don’t like it is because it’s neutral and doesn’t support your echo chamber as far as I can imagine, but again - it’s a you problem. And how many times have I said it, I haven’t said anywhere the UK or BBC is impeccable - I was talking exclusively about the bad state of American media, I don’t think the BBC is 100% corruption free it’s iust probably the best it can be in our society, I don’t care about it to be honest. I am not arguing for this, you’re simply trying to strawman me into getting into a debate over the UK

You see the BBC is impartial because it supports the UK/your viewpoint. It's called the British Broadcasting Corporation for f*ck sake. So of course it's going to support the state that pays for its existence. American media is just as bad as British media in my opinion. It's all ran by the same type of people. Right-wing arseholes who want to further their own agendas and control the narrative. How can you say in the same paragraph you have seen the BBC's bias but then criticise me for hating it because it's apparently "neutral?"

Nuremgard wrote:You see the BBC is impartial because it supports the UK/your viewpoint. It's called the British Broadcasting Corporation for f*ck sake. So of course it's going to support the state that pays for its existence. American media is just as bad as British media in my opinion. It's all ran by the same type of people. Right-wing arseholes who want to further their own agendas and control the narrative. How can you say in the same paragraph you have seen the BBC's bias but then criticise me for hating it because it's apparently "neutral?"

That’s a you problem mate. Not at all what I’m on about. If my point and your head were objects they’d be in another f*cking galaxy never mind country.

Yukona wrote:I said America’s bad at “X”, discuss about “X” and the response is “yeah so! Britain sucks at “Y”! Like, OK? Not my problem mate, not what I’m chatting mate.

Alright, mate. American media is sh!t, mate.

Nuremgard wrote:Yes, I am set in my views. And no, I wont change my mind about the BBC.

>Is presented with evidence that you acknowledge to be hard to argue with

>You don't even think about the possibility of you being wrong

>You acknowledge that you are set in your ways and don't do anything about it

You are not a serious person.

Nuremgard wrote:Alright, mate. American media is sh!t, mate.

Looks like those galaxies collided then!

Gualimole wrote:>Is presented with evidence that you acknowledge to be hard to argue with

>You don't even think about the possibility of you being wrong

>You acknowledge that you are set in your ways and don't do anything about it

You are not a serious person.

What do you want me to do? "Oh I was wrong. The BBC is pure amazeballs"

Nuremgard wrote:What do you want me to do? "Oh I was wrong. The BBC is pure amazeballs"

No, but you should be more introspective. The world isn't black and white, and you aren't always right.

Yukona

Nuremgard wrote:What do you want me to do? "Oh I was wrong. The BBC is pure amazeballs"

You could modify your statement which is all I'll say on the matter since I do agree their a touch biased.

However, on the other hand this argument seems to have gotten heated, maybe people should separate for a bit and take a break? Just a suggestion from the neighborhood Kal.

Gualimole wrote:No, but you should be more introspective. The world isn't black and white, and you aren't always right.

I never said I was always right. But thanks for the advice.

Nuremgard wrote:I never said I was always right.

But you certainly act as though you are in the way you write to others.

Kalaron wrote:You could modify your statement which is all I'll say on the matter since I do agree their a touch biased.

However, on the other hand this argument seems to have gotten heated, maybe people should separate for a bit and take a break? Just a suggestion from the neighborhood Kal.

Which statement should I modify?

Gualimole wrote:But you certainly act as though you are in the way you write to others.

That's politics. Each side claims to be right and after a lot of debate and shouting, nobody changes their minds. If that happened, politicians would be crossing the floor on a daily basis.

Nuremgard wrote:Which statement should I retract?

Sorry, retract was the wrong word for it. I changed it to modify since at least one does seem to overly demonize the BBC despite you noting that they aren't quite so biased as you thought. I've only been skimming the conversation, admittedly and I was more worried about the way you and Constid (I think? Guy makes too many puppets) are talking to each other.

Kalaron wrote:Sorry, retract was the wrong word for it. I changed it to modify since at least one does seem to overly demonize the BBC despite you noting that they aren't quite so biased as you thought. I've only been skimming the conversation, admittedly and I was more worried about the way you and Constid (I think? Guy makes too many puppets) are talking to each other.

It's my prerogative to demonise the BBC if I want to. And I personally don't think I've even went that far. I've criticised it, not demonised it.

Yukona wrote:Looks like those galaxies collided then!

So your original point was that American media is very patriotic/nationalist/Western biased. I agree with that. Britain's media is also that way. I just find it odd how you can criticise American media in isolation when the UK's media is the same way.

Nuremgard wrote:It's my prerogative to demonise the BBC if I want to. And I personally don't think I've even went that far. I've criticised it, not demonised it.

It is your prerogative, I ain't disagreeing there, Nur. Like I said, I might have been a bit too fast to the post, my primary concern was that the Constables would have to get involved >.>

I do agree that the BBC is biased, honestly.

As an aside, how was your day?

Kalaron wrote:It is your prerogative, I ain't disagreeing there, Nur. Like I said, I might have been a bit too fast to the post, my primary concern was that the Constables would have to get involved >.>

I do agree that the BBC is biased, honestly.

As an aside, how was your day?

Better than the past few days which have been very sh!tty. Yours?

Nuremgard wrote:Better than the past few days which have been very sh!tty. Yours?

Well, my past few have been pretty good honestly. I got to hang out and snuggle with Tim so I can't complain there. However, just today he returned home which has had me down. It's kinda hard to readjust ya know?

I'm still working, naturally, on my setting though so it should see light here sooner than later :)

Found any hot-scots lately? ;P

Kalaron wrote:Well, my past few have been pretty good honestly. I got to hang out and snuggle with Tim so I can't complain there. However, just today he returned home which has had me down. It's kinda hard to readjust ya know?

I'm still working, naturally, on my setting though so it should see light here sooner than later :)

Found any hot-scots lately? ;P

Not a Scot but my German tutor for politics is a total honey.

Nuremgard wrote:Not a Scot but my German tutor for politics is a total honey.

M8

Gib deets my dude.

Does he got a chiseled jaw? :>

Kalaron wrote:M8

Gib deets my dude.

Does he got a chiseled jaw? :>

He's tall and slim. Very handsome, has nice stubble. Nice jawline and he has a lovely, deep voice.

Vista Major

Nuremgard wrote:He's tall and slim. Very handsome, has nice stubble. Nice jawline and he has a lovely, deep voice.

How old is he?

Gualimole wrote:How old is he?

I'd guess and say mid to late twenties.

Nuremgard wrote:I'd guess and say mid to late twenties.

Do you two get along politically?

Nuremgard wrote:So your original point was that American media is very patriotic/nationalist/Western biased. I agree with that. Britain's media is also that way. I just find it odd how you can criticise American media in isolation when the UK's media is the same way.

Again with making the assumptions. I was specifically talking about the US to Kal, the British media is a completely different story. It’s like bringing up China in comparison to Canada. My point was about America. Now my point is that talking about Britain was not my point, you just assumed that I was suggesting Britain was better. And if you didn’t, why did you feel the case to tell me “Britain is bad too”? I just felt like you were strawmanning me into an argument that didn’t even relate to my former point.

Gualimole wrote:Do you two get along politically?

He has a girlfriend so he's unavailable. Plus, he hasn't spoken about his politics so I don't know anything about that side of him. Nice guy though. Friendly and gives constructive criticism in a nice way.

Vista Major, Gualimole

Yukona wrote:Again with making the assumptions. I was specifically talking about the US to Kal, the British media is a completely different story. It’s like bringing up China in comparison to Canada. My point was about America. Now my point is that talking about Britain was not my point, you just assumed that I was suggesting Britain was better. And if you didn’t, why did you feel the case to tell me “Britain is bad too”? I just felt like you were strawmanning me into an argument that didn’t even relate to my former point.

I genuinely wasn't strawmanning you. I get it. Your point was about the US.

Nuremgard wrote:He has a girlfriend so he's unavailable. Plus, he hasn't spoken about his politics so I don't know anything about that side of him. Nice guy though. Friendly and gives constructive criticism in a nice way.

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Vista Major wrote:White cis hetero bourgeoise male scum

You can do better

White cis hetero bourgeois is usually the type I fancy.

Vista Major wrote:White cis hetero bourgeoise male scum

You can do better

>Implying that sexuality is a lifestyle that one can change

You can do better.

Gualimole wrote:>Implying that sexuality is a lifestyle that one can change

You can do better.

If only it was a lifestyle choice. Would make things a lot easier.

Lavan Tiri, Axeldonia

Gualimole wrote:>Implying that sexuality is a lifestyle that one can change

You can do better.

It wasn't an implication.

Nuremgard wrote:White cis hetero bourgeois is usually the type I fancy.

You and 90% of the queer community

But fair enough, I guess

Nuremgard, Lavan Tiri

Nuremgard wrote:If only it was a lifestyle choice. Would make things a lot easier.

Things would be very confusing.

Vista Major wrote:It wasn't an implication.

Oh, yea, you're right. I did not read your original post carefully enough.

Lavan Tiri

Gualimole wrote:Things would be very confusing.

Oh, yea, you're right. I did not read your original post carefully enough.

If it was a choice, it would save many teenagers confusing and awful experiences growing up.

Lavan Tiri, Axeldonia

Nuremgard wrote:If it was a choice, it would save many teenagers confusing and awful experiences growing up.

It would make things even more confusing. Imagine that you just hit puberty and sexuality was a lifestyle. How would you choose which lifestyle to follow? What if you didn't know what certain lifestyles even are? How do these lifestyles even work? And if sexuality is a lifestyle, then would that mean that we are all born asexual?

Lavan Tiri

Gualimole wrote:It would make things even more confusing. Imagine that you just hit puberty and sexuality was a lifestyle. How would you choose which lifestyle to follow? What if you didn't know what certain lifestyles even are? How do these lifestyles even work? And if sexuality is a lifestyle, then would that mean that we are all born asexual?

I was thinking more if sexuality was a straight up choice. Like, you reach a certain age and you get to decide. I know that's a stupid and impossible concept.

Lavan Tiri, Axeldonia

Nuremgard wrote:I was thinking more if sexuality was a straight up choice. Like, you reach a certain age and you get to decide. I know that's a stupid and impossible concept.

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Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Axeldonia

Nuremgard wrote:I was thinking more if sexuality was a straight up choice. Like, you reach a certain age and you get to decide. I know that's a stupid and impossible concept.

If I had that choice, then I would choose to be asexual and be aromantic too. All romantic love brings is pain and suffering. You either fail to get into a romantic relationship and suffer heartbreak after heartbreak, or you get into a successful relationship for decades and then your partner dies. That will probably cause even more pain and suffering. Love has caused people to kill other people. That is how powerful of a drug it is. Just look at "supreme gentlemen" like Elliot Roger and Nicola Cruz. Would they have murdered had it not been for the pain and suffering that romantic love brings? I don't think so.

So if you had that choice, what choice would you make?

Nuremgard, Lavan Tiri

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Lavan Tiri, Vista Major

Gualimole wrote:If I had that choice, then I would choose to be asexual and be aromantic too. All romantic love brings is pain and suffering. You either fail to get into a romantic relationship and suffer heartbreak after heartbreak, or you get into a successful relationship for decades and then your partner dies. That will probably cause even more pain and suffering. Love has caused people to kill other people. That is how powerful of a drug it is. Just look at "supreme gentlemen" like Elliot Roger and Nicola Cruz. Would they have murdered had it not been for the pain and suffering that romantic love brings? I don't think so.

So if you had that choice, what choice would you make?

I'd probably choose to be asexual too. Or maybe straight. Lord Varys here makes a good point for being asexual.

https://youtu.be/cudxwhDO0gQ?t=119

Lavan Tiri, Vista Major, Gualimole

Kalaron wrote:Sorry, retract was the wrong word for it. I changed it to modify since at least one does seem to overly demonize the BBC despite you noting that they aren't quite so biased as you thought. I've only been skimming the conversation, admittedly and I was more worried about the way you and Constid (I think? Guy makes too many puppets) are talking to each other.

Ohhhh, it’s Constidor! I was leaning towards a Valt puppet, given his proclivity for

> x

> y

> z

style of dialogue.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Yukona wrote:That’s a you problem mate. Not at all what I’m on about. If my point and your head were objects they’d be in another f*cking galaxy never mind country.

Nuremgard wrote:Alright, mate. American media is sh!t, mate.

This is the most British exchange I have witnessed to date on NationStates.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova, Confederal States, Gualimole

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Ohhhh, it’s Constidor! I was leaning towards a Valt puppet, given his proclivity for

> x

> y

> z

style of dialogue.

Who is Valt?

Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Gualimole wrote:Who is Valt?

A former member of the region.

Lavan Tiri, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

Gualimole wrote:Who is Valt?

Our collective best friend. Nice guy. Good people.

Lavan Tiri, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

Continental Commonwealths wrote:This is the most British exchange I have witnessed to date on NationStates.

Does it make you proud of your country's British heritage?

Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:A former member of the region.

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Our collective best friend. Nice guy. Good people.

That is way too vague.

Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Gualimole wrote:That is way too vague.

He was/is a controversial figure for various reasons.

Lavan Tiri, Vista Major, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:He was/is a controversial figure for various reasons.

Elaborate.

Lavan Tiri

Nuremgard wrote:Does it make you proud of your country's British heritage?

Staple a big ol’ fleur-de-lys to both your foreheads and we’d basically recreate the Battle of Québec, and voilà! Canada is born! 🇨🇦

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica, Gualimole

Gualimole wrote:Elaborate.

Or we could not. Please just accept that he was pretty bad in his time so that this isn't dredged again.

Lavan Tiri

Kalaron wrote:Or we could not. Please just accept that he was pretty bad in his time so that this isn't dredged again.

Didn't he ban me from Discord multiple times?

Lavan Tiri

Gualimole wrote:Elaborate.

[nation=short]Valturus[/nation]. A previous member of our former region(s) who gained influence, but also the ire of several regionmates once he was perceived to have used that influence to game the region for his own gain. Some dislike him, some remain cordial or even friendly, still others remain neutral. An important chapter of our region(s) history, nonetheless.

Nuremgard, Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Vista Major, Valturus, Yukona, Gualimole

Gualimole wrote:Elaborate.

It's too late here and I cant be arsed getting into it to be honest.

Continental Commonwealths wrote:Staple a big ol’ fleur-de-lys to both your foreheads and we’d basically recreate the Battle of Québec, and voilà! Canada is born! 🇨🇦

Imagine what Canada would be like today if France had held it.

Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:It's too late here and I cant be arsed getting into it to be honest.

Imagine what Canada would be like today if France had held it.

You take it back, boyo. Take it back right now.

Nuremgard, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:Imagine what Canada would be like today if France had held it.

Prime alternate history material that is not being used enough. You should make a book about that if you had the time, especially if you have an extensive amount of knowledge regarding the Seven Years War.

Nuremgard, Lavan Tiri

Continental Commonwealths wrote:You take it back, boyo. Take it back right now.

Why? lol. France is cool.

Gualimole wrote:Prime alternate history material that is not being used enough. You should make a book about that if you had the time, especially if you have an extensive amount of knowledge regarding the Seven Years War.

I don't have extensive knowledge of that war and I don't write about alternate realities. I stick to fiction.

Jaslandia, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:Why? lol. France is cool.

The guillotine would be too swift for you.

That’s a play on France historical (and not so historical) use of the guillotine. Not a threat against Nurem’s person. Please do not bring me up on charges. I’m so tired.

Nuremgard, Lavan Tiri, Penguania And Antarctica

Nuremgard wrote:I don't have extensive knowledge of that war and I don't write about alternate realities. I stick to fiction.

http://www.tombstonebuilder.com/generate.php?top1=Gualimole%2FVetriutan%2F&top2=Nuova+Constidor%2F&top3=Constidor&top4=&sp=

Lavan Tiri

Continental Commonwealths wrote:[nation=short]Valturus[/nation]. A previous member of our former region(s) who gained influence, but also the ire of several regionmates once he was perceived to have used that influence to game the region for his own gain. Some dislike him, some remain cordial or even friendly, still others remain neutral. An important chapter of our region(s) history, nonetheless.

I always liked Valt, not gonna lie.

Valturus, Penguania And Antarctica, Mercunova

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