Post Archive
Region: The League
Welcome to our republic!
Creeperopolis
how do you do fellow memers?
Creeperopolis, Protocol Rendezvous, Karimun Jawa
I'd say that my greatest strength is my experience in the council, and more so as a citizen. I have an in depth understanding of how The League works thanks to my experience in multiple organs of it's government as well as my consistent activity on all platforms within The League. My greatest weakness I think would be my slow reaction time to immediate events, as most operations of government take place very late at night, I often learn about them the day afterwards, which would make it difficult for me to react quickly to events that need my attention.
Creeperopolis, Quebecshire, New Makasta
Thank you Malgax and New Makasta. The next topic will be out later this evening.
Creeperopolis, New Makasta
Are you interested in getting involved in regional affairs in a low-pressure but engaging way?
Announcing... the World Assembly Program!
If you're looking at this from the future and it's a dead link, it's because I had the dispatch moved to Paleocacher's nation.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1544055
Info:
The WAP is our region's new World Assembly dept. It will be under the Consulate of the Republic and organized rather casually - anyone can join if they meet the below requirements and you will be able to vote on (via the bot) and debate/discuss proposals and other WA affairs.
Requirements:
1. Be a citizen.
2. Have a WA nation in the region (exceptions provided to deployed LDF members).
3. That's it.
If you want to be added to the program upon its upcoming launch, react to the Discord announcement with the WA emoji or contact me privately - If you do so and meet the requirements, you will be added.
Shoutout to Crowheim, Asdersland, and Astrobolt for the feedback and suggestions in planning and launch! (If you quote this message, please do not tag them again otherwise I will yell at you)
Creeperopolis, New Makasta
I will destroy the goose mafia and you along with it
Creeperopolis, Dinonet
You gonna answer the question? >:(
Creeperopolis, Quebecshire
Hi
Quebecshire
Not until you ask Makasta one
Creeperopolis
Makasta is not the incumbent, and I am not a consul I'm not required to both sides this, you are getting a chance to show the public what you've done with your term in office.
Creeperopolis
Welcome to the region! Please endorse Paleocacher if you don't mind.
Paleocacher, Creeperopolis
Yea there are questions I could specifically ask Makasta and specifically ask Malgax due to one of them being incumbent and one of them not, but I've opted to not do so in favor of more general discussions on specific policy issues. I came up with a good one for tonight I think.
Creeperopolis, The Tirol Region
That said, citizens (or residents I suppose) are welcome and encouraged to ask the candidates questions themselves. They just won't go into the comparison dispatch unless they both comment on the issue (which isn't the case for an incumbency-specific question).
Creeperopolis, The Tirol Region
I can neather confrim nor deny the exictince of a goose cartel however this is just plain slander.
The poeple have a right to know if the speaker is a birb and I can proudly say I am not a bird
Creeperopolis, The Tirol Region
Are there any Jewish nations in the league?
Creeperopolis
Are you saying that being a bird is a bad thing?
That all birds are criminals, and that I, a bird, are a criminal?
You heard it here first folks, Makasta is a racist.
Creeperopolis, Dinonet
Your putting words in my mouth
now awnswer the quetsion are you a bird?
Creeperopolis
Yes I am a bird, yet I am no crook- UNLIKE YOU.
Creeperopolis, Dinonet
how can we trust a bird? fellow Leaguers what do brds define? weakness/non freedom
as such can you trust this bird?
on the claims of being a crook this is simply unture
Creeperopolis
Malgax is a bird? damn the chicken industry must suck there
Creeperopolis
What's wrong with being a bird? You're the fool who consorts with CRIMINALS
Creeperopolis
Name a single one of these so called crimnals?
Creeperopolis
Sure would be nice if the incumbent speaker of the council would raise a single thing he has done to advance the League in his time in office...
Creeperopolis, New Makasta
The Goose Cartel's famous leader- The Honk
Creeperopolis
And who is the Honk?
Creeperopolis
The Honk
That's her name
Creeperopolis
Oh really? how do you know this if your not part of the cartell?
Creeperopolis
I have extensive experience with fighting the Goose Cartel, not knowing the name of my mortal enemy would be absurd
Creeperopolis
Says famed member of the goose cartel
"MAL-GOOSE!"
Creeperopolis
I passed CRL#25, a bill that reformed The League's legal code from an outdated monolith of irrelevant legal jargon and archaic regulation into a modern code that better serves the region and it's people. Also, I noticed your criticism about "banning giving things to League officials," it doesn't do that, it just bans giving them things in exchange for doing things with the office they currently hold.
Creeperopolis, The Tirol Region
Tag: The Tirol Region
While I understand the ambiguity, I'll try to clear things up a little bit. Disclaimer: This hypothetical and while it's my opinion as Chief Consul, it shouldn't substitute for a hypothetical official and full court opinion if one were requested by a citizen.
[list]Bribery of officials is considered the action of giving League officials, be they council members, diplomats, or other office holders acting in the service of the Republic something in return for an action by the official.[/list]
This is the section in question, yes? So while it's not worded as clearly as it could be (sorry Malgax) unless a really convincing argument were made in court that it means the person overall and should be nullified on those grounds, I find it likely that the law would be interpreted and understood to mean "action by the official" as an action executed in the office and capacity of the person in question. Just my two cents.
Creeperopolis, The Tirol Region, Terranihil
Time to utilize the Addition of New Sections To CRL#25 clause!
Creeperopolis
Thank you for your answer, and I agree CRL#25 was certainly a vast improvement and update upon its predecessor.
Do you have anything to say in regards to the second part of my question, "Additionally, what actions have you taken to progress in the areas you have outlined your support for in response to Quebecshire?"
On the note of my criticisms of the law, the omission of the qualification that the action be utilising the office is a cause for unnecessary legislative ambiguity leaving far too much to interpretation, of course as Quebec says it would take an exceptionally strong argument for someone to persuade the present consulate to carry out the law in the strictest sense, but this, in my view, is not an ambiguity that should have been present in the first place.
Quite, if I hadn't been going into exams I'd have endeavoured to immediately pass such an amendment.
Creeperopolis
I feel like it's worth noting that even if we were persuaded, the law would not be enforced as such, in my view. If the Consulate interpreted the law to mean the broader or person-scale definition, I find it likely that said understanding would be followed by a nullification on constitutional grounds.
Creeperopolis, The Tirol Region
You say your greatest weakness is a lack of experience in NS politics. In terms of the Council itself, in the previous legislative session, what actions, if any, have you taken to encourage activity and the passage of legislation in the council as is the remit of the speaker?
Creeperopolis, Quebecshire, New Makasta
Did Makasta write a bill to refrom CLR#25? I didn't think so, he's too busy posting goose gifs in #Spam-and-ect. This is why you should vote for Malgax in the upcoming speaker election.
Creeperopolis
SPEAKER OF THE 13[sup]th[/sup] COUNCIL OF THE REPUBLIC ELECTION
Candidates:
Question / Discussion Topic:
Many regions have formal processes and definitions regarding which institutions can ban people and for what reasons. Most places call this a "persona non grata" proceeding, or something to that effect. Should the Council consider legislation to define and better direct such processes for relevant Council-derived authorities, such as the Department of Defense?
[spoiler=[Consult This] General Note and Explanation on "Council Derived"]Obviously, as implied if not directly stated, this exclusively refers to people being for in-character reasons such as lawbreaking or whatnot. i.e. not people banned by the out-of-character administrative/moderator team.
Also, the reason I say "Council-Derived" and not any institution is that generally, the constitutional principle makes it so that the Council cannot regulate much of the Consulate nor its subordinate institutions without its consent, and generally vice versa. This has especially been the case since Consulate-Convened Court of Appeals, 16 December 2020. That said, the Council could legislate a process by which certain bodies established by its own laws could move for bans, likely with Consulate approval thereof. It's what you make of it beyond the legality notes, really.[/spoiler]
Creeperopolis, New Makasta
This is an interesting topic as the council has not encountered a situation (that I am aware of) where a subordinate institution banned a persona non grata at the behest or approval of the council. I think that legislation should be passed that makes it so that if the Director of Defense, or Director of Foreign Affairs was to ban someone, they should go to the council to approve the ban by majority vote of the Council Delegates.
Creeperopolis, The Tirol Region, Quebecshire
Interesting perspective - though I must admit I would be hesitant to approve such legislation. I've been deeply critical of the FCN and RCN's processes that allow the legislature to ban people, as I think it creates a sentiment of mob rule.
Alternatively, I might suggest allowing the Council to call a hearing on the matter and recommend future action, instead of having a binding reversal vote. Do you have any notes or criticisms on such a possible compromise?
Creeperopolis
While I would disagree with your comments about mob rule thats not the topic of the discussion. I would support this compromise suggestion however, as long as the ban be put on memorandum until the council gives its recommendation, as well as including punishments for ignoring the process.
Creeperopolis, The Tirol Region
I fundamentally disagree with giving the legislature banning powers - though perhaps the ability to reverse said bans with caveats would be reasonable, as you suggested. Are these policies and regulations applying to everyone or just residents?
Citizens are already covered in a right to a trial, so we're mostly talking about residents and below, or those already convicted.
Creeperopolis, The Tirol Region
In oervous sessions I havnt done much for the concil the onlything I can really say is voteing and nomantions to the consil
The consil is ment to ensure regonal surcurty with the laws it creaes. As such if someone has shown themselves to be a threat to the instions that uphold the region then those instions should have the right to ban poeple for acting in such a way with a long concil vote
Creeperopolis, Quebecshire
These policies would apply to residents, Im not going to deny citizens a right to a trial.
Creeperopolis, Quebecshire
Did makasta go for low hanging ad hom attacks the first opperty he got?
yes of course he did he went after turkies and the status of the oppent being a bird!
NO! He waited untill his oppent did that
This ad as brught to you by the Makasta is based Assciaotion not to be confused with makasta for speaker
Creeperopolis
Without or with a Council vote?
I know, you don't have the authority to do so.
What I'm asking is if the institutions in question would have to go through the same process to remove a non-resident as well as a resident. I.e. is the same level of scrutiny to be applied to removal of foreigners, in your vision?
Creeperopolis
Without a consil vote sorry that I didnt word that well
Creeperopolis, Jarenova, Quebecshire
Does this apply to both residents and foreigners in your vision?
Creeperopolis, Jarenova
It applies to both.
Creeperopolis
I believe that the process should only apply to residents and not foreigners. Residents live (is that the right word) here, foreigners do not.
Creeperopolis, Quebecshire
So foreigner removals/PNGs/bans would not be subject to the same governmental scrutiny, to be clear?
Creeperopolis, Jarenova
Your weakness is Quebecshires ban hammer
Creeperopolis, Jarenova
Yes
Creeperopolis, Jarenova, Quebecshire
Creeperopolis, The Tirol Region, Jarenova
Helloo, new embasy friends! How are you all doing?
Creeperopolis, The Tirol Region, Quebecshire
Doing well! Glad to have the embassy with you guys.
Creeperopolis, Free Las Pinas
I'm doing well. Howabout yourself good person
Creeperopolis, Quebecshire, Free Las Pinas
All the LDF hops on since update is over
Creeperopolis
*sits down here*
hi there, most of yall will know me as Witchcraft And Sorcery or any one of my 1034963920 alts. figured what's one more? :P
Creeperopolis, Quebecshire, New Makasta
I see Jarenova likes my god its been a long time
Creeperopolis, Jarenova, Quebecshire
Well, I just got my braces adjusted. My dentist replaced my upper wire with a thicker one, so naturally I expected it to hurt more, but it's surprisingly not that bad!
Creeperopolis
Good morning everyone
Creeperopolis, Quebecshire, East Yourtanad
This is a good thing I hope
Creeperopolis
Good morning!
Creeperopolis, Iandrul
hey! :P
Creeperopolis, Quebecshire
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA hi
Creeperopolis, Lyoa
joining lily
Creeperopolis, The Legion Of Mankind
I cannot wait to retroactively rp the last two months once I finish this damn play
Creeperopolis, New Makasta
have fun mate
Creeperopolis
Sometimes, life is boring, but worthwhile
Creeperopolis
nawh life is just a constent gamble
Creeperopolis
Still a worthwhile gamble nonetheless
Creeperopolis
but is it?
Creeperopolis
Yee :sunglasses:
Creeperopolis
Wrong
Creeperopolis
10000 Islands? How do you even get that many islands
Creeperopolis, Washingtonian Republic, Terranihil
well first you take a very angrey finsh person, then add on a bit what ever the rest of 10000 islands communty is then volia
Creeperopolis
Step 1: Be Greece
Creeperopolis
No harm in it if you got an autologin to remember them for you lol
He still pops in from time to time
Good afternoon!
Dunno... you'd have to ask the founder, but nobody actually knows who they are :P
Creeperopolis, Jarenova, Yepra
I know who it was
Creeperopolis
Oh, do ya? Who was it?
Creeperopolis
Me.
Creeperopolis
Bro you were probably in diapers when Grub was leading the defense of XKI
Creeperopolis, New Makasta
Literally 1984
Creeperopolis
SPEAKER OF THE 13[sup]th[/sup] COUNCIL OF THE REPUBLIC ELECTION
Candidates:
Question / Discussion Topic:
Should there either be (a) a legal definition and/or (b) a process for ratifying treaties and agreements with foreign governments? One but not the other, both, or neither? Since this would likely be constitutional, assume that you are discussing a hypothetical motion, not bill.
[spoiler=Defintions for the sake of this question.]
Legal definition: A portion of the Constitution specifically defining what constitutes a treaty or interregional agreement and further acknowledging it as separate from a bill, motion, or law.
Process for ratifying: An explicitly defined process for ratifying and legally instituting the above.[/spoiler]
Creeperopolis, The Tirol Region, New Makasta
Just be Norway with over 239,057 islands. Sweden has 267,570.
Creeperopolis, Quebecshire, Yepra
Both would be good as it would provide a system to get our treaties more known and organized in a offical mannor
Creeperopolis, Jarenova, Quebecshire
I believe that we should both have a constitutional clause and a process for ratifying treaties with other regions. Specifically, I believe that as the Department of Foreign Affairs is a sub organization of the Council, I think that all treaties negotiated by The League should be put to approval to the council, much like a CRB or CRM.
Creeperopolis, The Tirol Region, Jarenova, Quebecshire
was told to introduce myself to the region from a welcome telegram. Not much to tell. Ive returned to Nationstates after a 4 year hiatus (college). Will try to be more active.
Creeperopolis, The Tirol Region, Jarenova, Quebecshire
Willing to endorse Paleocacher? Also, welcome!
Creeperopolis, The Tirol Region, Jarenova, Direnia
I just endorsed him.
Creeperopolis, The Tirol Region, Jarenova, Quebecshire
Thank you! Do you have a Discord?
Creeperopolis, Jarenova
havent been on it in a few years.
Creeperopolis, Jarenova, Quebecshire
You should consider joining if you're interested in being active again - it's where most regional functions occur.
Creeperopolis, Jarenova, New Makasta, Direnia
why are you being condemned?
Creeperopolis, The Tirol Region, Jarenova, Quebecshire
Vara thought it would be funny to put it to vote
Creeperopolis, The Tirol Region, Jarenova, Washingtonian Republic, Quebecshire, New Makasta, Direnia
Because hes an evil person who bullies vara
a joke that went to far
Creeperopolis, The Tirol Region, Jarenova, Washingtonian Republic
It's a joke resolution and is failing accordingly.
Creeperopolis, Jarenova
SPEAKER OF THE 13[sup]th[/sup] COUNCIL OF THE REPUBLIC ELECTION
Candidates:
Question / Discussion Topic:
This will be the last official discussion topic before the election.
Are there any other forms of legislative or otherwise significant policy you wish to address during this campaign? If so, what are they and how would you like to see the region move forward with it.
Please try to respond to the other candidate's choice of policy, as it will make the "On the Issues" dispatch more comprehensive and uniform in format.
Creeperopolis, The Tirol Region, New Makasta
Good morning everyone
Creeperopolis, The Tirol Region, Quebecshire, East Yourtanad, New Ionian Islands, Franco C-4
Good morning!
Creeperopolis, Quebecshire, Iandrul, Franco C-4
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