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Region: The League
I don't think we should overstate today's events to "fracturing"
Creeperopolis
LCN civil war
Creeperopolis, Republic Of Dragons
Or to that
Creeperopolis
I wouldn't consider the r-word to be a slur and I don't think most people do.
Creeperopolis, Xusma
Literally not the current take
The current take, at least from Sac, is that your minecraft arguments colored moderation decisions
Creeperopolis
It's objectively a pejorative. Whether you think it's a slur or not, it does not have a place on our Discord server as far as admin/mod teams understand. Therefore, we expect community members to accept that.
Creeperopolis, Republic Of Dragons
Still waiting to get owned by facts and logic
Creeperopolis, Republic Of Dragons
A pejorative isn't a slur though.
Creeperopolis, Xusma
(In response to me asking what my "agenda" is) "You wanting to be a loved member in things like NSGP, cause remember we arent a community. We are your region"
Regardless, Sac has deliberately attempted to portray his ban as something I did on a dumb whim, and not something that every admin/mod upheld as reasonable.
Creeperopolis, New Makasta, Republic Of Dragons
That is a debatable point, however, the server administration has the right to determine what is and is not acceptable. And it has been decided that this word is prohibited.
Creeperopolis, Quebecshire, Republic Of Dragons
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pejorative
A pejorative or slur is a word or grammatical form expressing a negative or a disrespectful connotation, a low opinion, or a lack of respect toward someone or something.[1] It is also used to express criticism, hostility, or disregard. Sometimes, a term is regarded as pejorative in some social or ethnic groups but not in others, or may be originally pejorative but later adopt a non-pejorative sense (or vice versa) in some or all contexts.
EDIT: I think it's reasonably arguable that it is. Regardless, my point stands. It doesn't need to be on our server.
Creeperopolis, Republic Of Dragons
WIKIPEDIA
Quebecshire, Republic Of Dragons
Kinda a hot take mate, while most poeple don't think of it as a slur it has been used in ways that in the past put poeple down who are effected by it, as such its a very minnor change to the way you speak so could you just not say it? It would make me feel more comfertable
Creeperopolis, Quebecshire, Republic Of Dragons
As yes the usual "Quebec is bad". Hmph, what a joke. It is a stupid argument and always has been
Creeperopolis, Quebecshire
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Darksaber
Creeperopolis
Sac's argument of "I'm not against the word being regulated" also falls apart when he refuses to remove his status with it in it.
The New Fandom Republic, Creeperopolis, Eminople
thats not wikipedia clwon
star wars is cringe
Quebecshire
Wrong star wars is based
Creeperopolis, East Yourtanad
LCN wiki is cringe
Creeperopolis, Republic Of Dragons
i look all around my house and found a grand total of 0 people who asked
:joy :sunglasses:
Quebecshire
Nah I removed it but you didn't say everything you needed to, I only panned to talk not do anything
Creeperopolis, Xusma
Saying the r-word isn't comparable to saying the n-word. I'm just saying, put one into the same boat as the other is kinda crappy. Plus, the argument that it's been used to put people down, as I can literally say that for almost any word. But I'm pretty sure that every word isn't a slur.
Fair enough. I just find instant banning people for saying a word that isn't that bad, especially with context is unfair. Especially if you would just talk to people about their actions and be nice about it, I don't we would be in this situation.
Fair enough.
Creeperopolis, Xusma
What??? I was going to say more after you did the most basic thing of removing the status.
Creeperopolis
:C
Creeperopolis, Republic Of Dragons
Sometimes its good to learn new things
Creeperopolis
If you ask me, this entire situation proves that The League needs to reform it's criminal justice system and law code, specifically regarding punishments, jurisdiction, and moderator discretion. The council should work on a new bill to replace the old law code, we can't let this disruptive and disturbing incident pass by without learning from it.
Creeperopolis, Xusma, New Makasta, Republic Of Dragons, Greater Sacramento
LCN wiki is cool wdym
Creeperopolis
1) It's comparable in the sense that they're both pejoratives but one is probably worse, but that's whataboutism. Neither should be said imho.
2) The difference between a pejorative/slur and a normal one being used to put someone down is that a slur attacks a specific identity attribute.
Creeperopolis, Republic Of Dragons
And I wanted to hear everything first but you didn't wanna say everything first so like I don't care enough to keep you unblocked
Creeperopolis, Republic Of Dragons
What? None of this has anything to do with laws. This is an OOC spat.
Creeperopolis
Legion and Gagium were both banned for saying the word after multiple warnings for their conduct and in Gagium's case especially Cubic told him not to say the word and he posted it immediately afterwards in public.
Creeperopolis, Quebecshire, Republic Of Dragons
Because I needed you to do the most basic thing to prove you were being serious about it. Keep me blocked and stay banned ig.
Creeperopolis
you have achived funni
yeah im not good at agureeing this point but just like don't say it? (i know you diddnt say it but like as a real of thumb)
Creeperopolis, Quebecshire
Kk
Creeperopolis, Republic Of Dragons
My economy is thriving! WOOOO!
Creeperopolis, Quebecshire, Republic Of Dragons
I don't know why you can't just resolve this, but alright.
Creeperopolis
I don't comparing those two are a fair comparison. I would argue that the f-slur and n-slur are more comparable. And probably worse? I'm quite confident one is way worse than the other.
Creeperopolis, Quebecshire
We don't have a criminal justice system except the court system, and that's my job to handle prosecutions with the LIA, because that is government stuff
The law code doesn't include the server rules, as they are not a governmental thing
A new set of server rules is not the job of the council, as it is not a governmental thing
BUT!
I agree that moderator discretion should be reigned in
Creeperopolis, Quebecshire, New Makasta
Chewy bacon or crunchy bacon? Or in the middle?
Creeperopolis
It's just all a bunch of bs to be honest. But hey, they die by their beliefs I guess
Creeperopolis, Quebecshire
chwey, yourself?
Creeperopolis, East Yourtanad
Chewy.
Creeperopolis
That's not a good enough reason for someone not to say it. I have ADD, and I don't take offense to the word at all.
Creeperopolis
In the middle leaning towards crunchy.
Creeperopolis, Republic Of Dragons, East Yourtanad
Atleast youre not fully like burnt to the crisp.
Creeperopolis
I've seen enough.
Creeperopolis, Republic Of Dragons
who hasn't?
Creeperopolis, Republic Of Dragons
I wanna see a elephant with wings and 6 legs
Creeperopolis, Republic Of Dragons
That is a terrifying sight.
Creeperopolis
it sounds fun
Creeperopolis, Republic Of Dragons
Drama over
Creeperopolis, Republic Of Dragons
This is just sad. I expected more, guess I was a fool
Creeperopolis, New Makasta, Republic Of Dragons
Let's stop with these types of posts, please.
Creeperopolis, Terranihil, Republic Of Dragons, East Yourtanad
I am declaring the Emergency Military Command Council for the Restoration of Democracy in order to get rid of the evil dictator Quebecshire for suppressing my right to susmongus and lil mosey. Join me and liberate DaLeague!
(For 13 iq people: this is a joke)
The New Fandom Republic, Creeperopolis, Spode Humbled Minions, Eminople, Gjorka, Quebecshire, New Makasta
Drama overdose
Creeperopolis, Quebecshire, Republic Of Dragons
We burning through rmb pages we almost at 100 already
The New Fandom Republic, Creeperopolis
A few things I want to address specifically in regards to the "Quebec just wants to be a loved member of NSGP and that's why he made mod changes that don't let me joke with slurs" or other things to that effect,
Firstly, that's wrong. If I was just putting on a show for "NSGP" I don't think I would make sure the OOC-conduct related rules weren't just about the server, and I would probably still use terms I've removed from my own vocabulary and otherwise banned in private. Aside from that, "NSGP" weren't the only people criticizing our policies. People like Icaris and I think The Constitutional Republic Of Zion criticized my/our choices in defending our old policies and I'm pretty comfortable in admitting that they were right and I was wrong.
Additionally, our moderation changes happened rather gradually based on what the administrators all came to the unanimous conclusions of what was right and better for improving the community. And even with that gradual improvement, we did not re-enter more foreign affairs or "NSGP" until months after, really. Not until mid-late February.
I also don't know why people see "NSGP" as some sort of monolith. There are people I like there and other people there I absolutely cannot stand. NSGP is literally the section of NationStates that does gameplay stuff like foreign affairs, R/D, et cetera. I'm not denying that there are definitely prevailing common opinions on a lot of OOC stuff, but the monolith viewpoint of anyone involved with them comes off as extremely conspiratorial, to be honest.
Lastly, and I'm sure this is the part people will point at to say they are right about me being some NSGP knee-bender or whatever, but I don't see what's wrong with the region being involved in gameplay. Many people in the region have found defending/Libcord really fun for their experience, used it as a way to grow in regional activity and government, and foreign relations have been very pleasant and leading to things like planning games nights with other regions and getting to actually experience the game more. That isn't a bad thing in my opinion.
I'm happy to discuss more, but yeah.
Paleocacher, The New Fandom Republic, Creeperopolis, Icaris, The Constitutional Republic Of Zion, Eminople, Lyoa
NSGP at times can say things that wouldnt fly in our discord so knee bending argument destroyed
The New Fandom Republic, Creeperopolis
Half or more of the stuff Misley says would be a major sus moment on our server tbh.
Creeperopolis, Lyoa
I see you guys typing. Dont even think about it.
Creeperopolis
?
Creeperopolis
Sus
Creeperopolis
Pain, I didn't even realize it when I typed it
Creeperopolis, New Makasta, Lyoa
I have moved past that stage in my life do not demine me
hahahah he said sus thats a refrcine to the game amoungus ahahahaha quebec imposta
Creeperopolis
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If by old policies, you mean I criticized the old ambivalence towards homophobic and racist statements, yeah I did. And Im happy about the new changes- spamming slurs is completely unacceptable and people who act like all these changes are just to satisfy the bloodlust of other NS leaders are misinformed. Its about making a community thats safe for everyone. Not a community that has the appearance of safety, but one that is actually welcoming and inclusive.
Creeperopolis, Eminople, Quebecshire
Unfortunately, as with many other things NS and IRL, vocal minorities tend to shout their overzealous talking points.
EDIT: Tbf though I'm not sure who used the phrase bloodlust regarding this topic?
Creeperopolis, Eminople
No one in particular did, I was using it to describe the way Ive heard malcontents characterize NSGP
Creeperopolis
Gotcha.
Creeperopolis
Idk what this mod drama stuff is about, but if something bad is happening then Im upset, but if something good is happening then Im thrilled.
Creeperopolis, Quebecshire, New Makasta, Greater Sacramento
One must imagine Sisyphus happy.
Creeperopolis
So, about today,
The good: We are reopening our onsite embassy with The East Pacific, had record LDF turnout tonight, and our friends in Auctor/Sophia are rebuilding.
The bad: Some people who were active and solid members of the community are banned from the Discord right now due to open defiance of/inability to follow the rules.
Paleocacher, Creeperopolis
Dude I never see you speak
Creeperopolis, Quebecshire
Record LDF turnout tonight.
Creeperopolis, Icaris, The Constitutional Republic Of Zion
Gang gang
Creeperopolis, Quebecshire
- The non-LDF person :)
Creeperopolis, Icaris
What, no TBH puppets tonight? Sad!
Creeperopolis, Icaris, New Makasta
😔
Creeperopolis, Quebecshire, New Makasta, South Alderton
It's funny when foreigners on NS get super surprised that I'm not from Quebec
The New Fandom Republic, Icaris, Eminople
Happy Easter everyone!
Washingtonian Republic, Quebecshire
Joyeuses Pâques!
Iandrul
This weekend is general conference. If you dont know what it is, its basically a 14 hour long televised Mormon sermon thats split up over 2 days.
I am not Mormon, so yesterday I hid in the basement while my family watched conference. I did my taxes and some homework.
Today, Im leaving my house on Easter Sunday to go somewhere, anywhere to get away from the sounds of prophets, seers, and revelators condemning my lifestyle both as an exmormon and as a gay man.
I also know these speeches hurt my family. Many of them encourage parents not to let their children leave the church. For my parents, they feel like theyve failed every time someone brings it up.
Theres some good news though: my brother decided to bail on conference too, so Ill have a traveling buddy today. I think were gonna go see golden spike national historic site.
The New Fandom Republic, Spode Humbled Minions, Amaan Land, Terranihil, Quebecshire, New Makasta
happy easter!
Washingtonian Republic, Quebecshire, South Alderton
I have been for at least six years, one of my first nations was Greater North Star, followed later by Truemerica.
Xusma, Quebecshire, East Yourtanad
Love the level of consensus we have on the demonym for the League...
Creeperopolis, Eminople, Quebecshire
Keep in mind the little poll is open to foreigners in the WA
Maybe the Council could have a little cultural bill to define regional symbols and demonyms?
Creeperopolis
Oh yeah hadn't noticed it was open to foreigners, and aye a bill to define regional symbols and demonyms, for official purposes at least, would certainly make sense. If I have a bit of spare time and I'm sick of writing rp wiki stuff I'll get on it
Creeperopolis, Icaris, Terranihil, Quebecshire
Good call. Feel free to reach out to people in Capitol or chambers once the report is all read about it too.
Creeperopolis, Icaris
2 April 2021
Deltino
The Militarist Nationalist Front celebrated Good Friday by crucifying a Deltinian villager.
3 April 2021
Puerto Francisco
A crowd of around 10,000 Quebecshirites in Puerto Francisco gathered by a statue of Félix Vernier in the center of the city in memory of the 176 Quebecshirites killed in the 2020 Bostonia Attack exactly one year ago. It was one of the largest gathering of Quebecshirites in the city since the events of Franciscan Summer of 200305.
San Salvador
The Creeperian government officially inaugurated a memorial in the Valley of the Fallen in memorial of the 43 Creeperans killed in the 2020 Bostonia Attack exactly one year ago. Each one of them was given a burial service at the memorial.
4 April 2021
San Salvador del Oeste
Pope Francisco I celebrated Easter Mass in San Pedro's Basilica. Emperor Alexander II and Minister of Defense Augusto Cabañeras Gutiérrez were in attendance.
Pings
Lyoa
Marry whatever holdiy you dont or want to celabrte today
Creeperopolis, East Yourtanad
ok, and?
Creeperopolis
Me tryna find my blue flag, accidentally upload barneyBoatPoster.png, then realizing the wiki exists
Creeperopolis, Terranihil, Quebecshire, Dinonet
Those are weird names for old nations, but god, that is a while.
Creeperopolis, Washingtonian Republic, Quebecshire
I dont understand why you replied but ok. I was just saying though, I never see you speak.
Creeperopolis, Quebecshire
Interesting times are about to happen in lyoa
The New Fandom Republic, Creeperopolis, Quebecshire
Good afternoon Leaguebois! It is Lyoa once again here to deliver the LDF Weekly Report 4/4/2021!
We had a pretty solid week, which included del bumping some fascists and helping our friends over at Sophia!
Shoutout to all who came this week:
Chief Consul Quebecshire
Consul Terranihil
Consul Eminople
Director of the Department of Defense The New Fandom Republic
General of the Defense Forces Lyoa
Corporal Spode Humbled Minions
Corporal New Makasta
Private Dinonet
Private Icaris
Private Washingtonian Republic
Creeperopolis, Icaris, Washingtonian Republic, Quebecshire, New Makasta, Malgax, Dinonet
Death to Jesus is like a regular partygoers hangover
Creeperopolis
what
Creeperopolis, Republic Of Dragons
Im saying death to Jesus (if your reading this wrong your gonna get slapped) is like a hangover to partygoer waking up in the morning
Creeperopolis
April 4, 2021
Southern Kazima
Jihadists belonging to the Islamic Army of Lyoa raided at least five villages in Southern Kazima province. Each of these villages, made up entirely of those following the Catholic faith, were involved in Easter celebrations. Jihadist rebels attacked the villages with machetes and blunt weapons, brutally killing at least 39 civilians in the process. The rebels also set fire to multiple houses. Many civilians who were not killed in the attacks fled to the bush and remain displaced.
Northern Mitende
Islamic Army of Lyoa jihadists attacked three villages in Northern Mitende, all made up of Catholics celebrating Easter. The jihadists attacked and killed civilians with automatic weapons and machetes, killing around 15 people total. The assailants also burned down multiple houses in the attacks as well.
Mitende-Kazima Border
Jihadist forces of the Islamic Army of Lyoa attacked a Lyoan Protestant village located on the border of Mitende and Kazima provinces. The village was active in Easter celebrations. Jihadists attacked with bladed weapons, brutally killing seven villagers in the attack. In this incident, only one house was burned by the attackers.
Creeperopolis
Islamic Army of Lyoa are type of ppl to violate every principle of the Quran then tell a woman off for not wearing a burqa
Creeperopolis, New Makasta, Malgax, Lyoa, South Alderton
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