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but rlly, make sure that you tell people nicely, instead of going berserk and nuclear

Pyhdon wrote:but rlly, make sure that you tell people nicely, instead of going berserk and nuclear

I’m neither going berserk or nuclear, lol. You made the choice to try and worm your way out of an obvious third attempt of plagiarism. By “remove it” I mean the entire header. Chiho can come to their own mind about what to do with your other copying, though again, don’t lie and say you took it from them when you used the exact same colour hex codes as I did.

I’ll still be pursuing some sort of strike against this as this is reoccurring behaviour.

Krayo29

Krayo29 wrote:

This is for all players and RP moderators: Why are real-life arguments used for the rest of the issues, such as espionage, travel time, technology,... And yet not for a crime against humanity?

could you elaborate?

perhaps this is my sleep deprived brain but i didnt understand exactly what you typed

Guys, do you like my new flag? :3

America The Greater, Krayo29

Puttt wrote:Guys, do you like my new flag? :3

🔥

Residents of TRTHNBB

Have you ever wanted to do something fun? Ever wanted to do contribute to the greater good?

Join our Bankless Liberation Forces!

Infos:

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=2512898

Alright convinced? Then apply here!

https://forms.gle/uZ2ngbpFmeJaMcVN9

For further questions, Telegram/DM @Gine Caruttiva™ or @New United Common-lands™ !

New United Common-Lands, Krayo29, Western Arba Fir

well, for bbcode, why are ppl getting angry about it?

bbcode should be used by everyone, nobody owns a colour.

Say Geometry Dash, how many copies of bloodbath are there? 76 thousand?

And they always make their own contributions.

I swear to god, if this happens again, I am going.

Pyhdon wrote:well, for bbcode, why are ppl getting angry about it?

bbcode should be used by everyone, nobody owns a colour.

Say Geometry Dash, how many copies of bloodbath are there? 76 thousand?

And they always make their own contributions.

I swear to god, if this happens again, I am going.

You are absolutely correct. BBCode is for everyone. However, that also comes with the responsibility to recognise that people put in a huge amount of effort and work so that their code looks nice. When people do not acknowledge that, that is where the problem lies.

Not only did you not acknowledge those who worked hard, you also attempted to use lies in order to attempt some form of damage control when you were found out. You need to learn to be mature, swallow your pride, and realise you made a mistake.

America The Greater

Achrom wrote:Has the RP always been so heated and debated so much, or was I just unlucky to join at such time? Maybe I was the spark even, considering the whole thing there has been peaceful for the week and a half while I was here but was not yet on the map, from my view at least.

I don't like it this way : (

It's too negative and serious and all shouting and arguments and all.

😭😭😭

Socialistic Britain

Krayo29 wrote:New-Union, what promt did you write to the AI ​​to generate The Black Massacre?

Perhaps the only correct way to ensure which contributions the players make and what the AI ​​makes, will be to include the promt that the players give to the AI.

New-Union, what was the objective or purpose of introducing a massacre of that magnitude, which in real life would be considered crimes against humanity, once Maen had already surrendered?

This is for all players and RP moderators: Why are real-life arguments used for the rest of the issues, such as espionage, travel time, technology,... And yet not for a crime against humanity?

Bro what

oh no

A teen copied my work on this nation simulation game

I will be sure to destroy his career and make sure he gets punishment for using my stupid clip art which I created

Syrasia wrote:I can tell you have taken it from me as in my BBCode I always use the British way to spell ‘colour’.

While I understand you’re mad about your work being used, you also aren’t the only person who’s British here and used colour instead of color

Pyhdon speaks British English so while I don’t think he created this computer thing or whatever you are so mad about, it’s not a very good argument of showing how you know he stole it

New-Union wrote:Lemona see the forum

If you could send troops to the Kuwaiti front it would help, keep your navy in the Mediterranean to avoid convoys leaving

Yeah

I’m gonna have to take some troops out of reserve for that but sure

Lemona wrote:oh no

A teen copied my work on this nation simulation game

I will be sure to destroy his career and make sure he gets punishment for using my stupid clip art which I created

While I understand you’re mad about your work being used, you also aren’t the only person who’s British here and used colour instead of color

Pyhdon speaks British English so while I don’t think he created this computer thing or whatever you are so mad about, it’s not a very good argument of showing how you know he stole it

I don’t understand why you feel the need to get involved, but alas.

You are perhaps correct with that argument about the spelling of “colour”, I do concede that. However, given the holistic evidence I think its beyond reasonable doubt that my work was copied.

As for my “stupid clip art”, that does just seem unnecessarily rude. I spent a few hours getting it to look right along with the rest of my works, though, I won’t rise to that.

Syrasia wrote:

As for my “stupid clip art”, that does just seem unnecessarily rude. I spent a few hours getting it to look right along with the rest of my works, though, I won’t rise to that.

Sorry about that, I woke up rather angry and just used the first words that came to mind

Syrasia

Yao Yap yap

New United Common-Lands

Syrasia wrote:I’m neither going berserk or nuclear, lol. You made the choice to try and worm your way out of an obvious third attempt of plagiarism. By “remove it” I mean the entire header. Chiho can come to their own mind about what to do with your other copying, though again, don’t lie and say you took it from them when you used the exact same colour hex codes as I did.

I’ll still be pursuing some sort of strike against this as this is reoccurring behaviour.

Me, having stolen pretty much everything I use in my factbooks: 😐

Claibornia wrote:Me, having stolen pretty much everything I use in my factbooks: 😐

Then again, the ones I stole were both from Lemona, and they were super old and not in use

Claibornia wrote:Then again, the ones I stole were both from Lemona, and they were super old and not in use

I feel like there is a major difference between taking something from a longtime friend/acquaintance on the site whom you’ll know won’t be too bothered by it, and taking something from someone you barely know, failing to give credit, and when asked, attempting to pass it off as some kind of massive coincidence.

To clarify, I am not angry about my BBCode being used. Many people have asked and/or credited my work previously. A lot of the dispatches used by members of Violetia, a region I founded, are derivatives of my work and still even give credit despite being fairly removed from the source material. The point of contention for me is the matter of principle that:

[list][*]Despite seeing the fact I had credited someone for their work, Pyhdon chooses to ignore that

[*]When I realise the work is copied, there is an attempt to not only lie, but somehow blame me for it for going “nuclear”[/list]

I would’ve never even batted an eye if Pyhdon had approached me previously and asked, or even if he used and applied credit from the moment it was published. It’s the fact that I not only had to ask, but ask after working my way around numerous attempts to lie.

America The Greater, Krayo29

Syrasia wrote:I feel like there is a major difference between taking something from a longtime friend/acquaintance on the site whom you’ll know won’t be too bothered by it, and taking something from someone you barely know, failing to give credit, and when asked, attempting to pass it off as some kind of massive coincidence.

To clarify, I am not angry about my BBCode being used. Many people have asked and/or credited my work previously. A lot of the dispatches used by members of Violetia, a region I founded, are derivatives of my work and still even give credit despite being fairly removed from the source material. The point of contention for me is the matter of principle that:

[list][*]Despite seeing the fact I had credited someone for their work, Pyhdon chooses to ignore that

[*]When I realise the work is copied, there is an attempt to not only lie, but somehow blame me for it for going “nuclear”[/list]

I would’ve never even batted an eye if Pyhdon had approached me previously and asked, or even if he used and applied credit from the moment it was published. It’s the fact that I not only had to ask, but ask after working my way around numerous attempts to lie.

yea pyhdon has a major issue with stealing things

I would suggest a strike but I don't want him to be banned

Lemona wrote:oh no

A teen copied my work on this nation simulation game

I will be sure to destroy his career and make sure he gets punishment for using my stupid clip art which I created

Not a warning or anything yet but please don't use this kind of language on the RMB. It's just inciting a bigger argument and blowing things further out of proportion. Syrasia put in a lot of work and so did their friend, it's really disrespectful to boil it down to 'stupid clip art.'

Claibornia wrote:yea pyhdon has a major issue with stealing things

I would suggest a strike but I don't want him to be banned

We can't really give a strike for this, the law that would've allowed that got vetoed, so Pyhdon is allowed to take whatever he wants atm

Pyhdon wrote:I swear to god, if this happens again, I am going.

Pyhdon, you're clearly a smart and dedicated person. I just wish you'd have a bit more respect for other people. You took something from people you've never even met without giving credit, and you're totally refusing to acknowledge that you did something wrong. I really think you should learn to apologize and recognize when you've made a mistake, people will respect you a lot more for it.

Achrom wrote:Has the RP always been so heated and debated so much, or was I just unlucky to join at such time?

As long as I've been here, I've felt the same way. The RP seems really heavily focused on war and fairly loosely moderated, so we end up having massive arguments all the time. I think the RP needs a serious overhaul.

Socialistic Britain

Astravica wrote:Also, not related to the above, but is there any constitutional precedent for the proposed referendum on InterLeft membership? I'm not personally seeing any when I look through the Constitution - in fact, there's no reference to referendums in the entire document that I can see.

Promise this is my last post in a row, lol - but there isn't a technical precedent for a referendum, no. However, the power to negotiate treaties is given to the MoFA with approval from the Prime Minister, and the mechanism for accepting or leaving said treaties is not defined elsewhere. For that reason, it is implied that the MoFA, with approval from the PM, can devise their own mechanism for leaving or entering a treaty. NUCL's referendum idea would simply grant citizens a right to voice their own opinion in the decision - he's perfectly within his right to simply leave.

New United Common-Lands

America The Greater wrote:As long as I've been here, I've felt the same way. The RP seems really heavily focused on war and fairly loosely moderated, so we end up having massive arguments all the time. I think the RP needs a serious overhaul.

And it all seems to come from a handful of people

I remember back when I was Pinevilla when rp was fun and chill, people went to war, and when they lost, oh well, deal with it. Everyone got along

Brocklandia, America The Greater, Socialistic Britain, United States Of Alpha

Claibornia wrote:I remember back when I was Pinevilla when rp was fun and chill, people went to war, and when they lost, oh well, deal with it. Everyone got along

That was back in Ye Olden Days, before the invention of sophisticated weaponry like the sharp stick.

*Pokes [nation=noflag]Claibornia[/nation] with a sharp stick*

Oopsie. That wasn't an act of war. That was just a technical glitch in our sharp stick guidance system, so blame technology. Nope, not an act of war at all.

Astravica wrote:No, it hasn't been quite this heated in the past.

Also, not related to the above, but is there any constitutional precedent for the proposed referendum on InterLeft membership? I'm not personally seeing any when I look through the Constitution - in fact, there's no reference to referendums in the entire document that I can see.

America The Greater wrote:Promise this is my last post in a row, lol - but there isn't a technical precedent for a referendum, no. However, the power to negotiate treaties is given to the MoFA with approval from the Prime Minister, and the mechanism for accepting or leaving said treaties is not defined elsewhere. For that reason, it is implied that the MoFA, with approval from the PM, can devise their own mechanism for leaving or entering a treaty. NUCL's referendum idea would simply grant citizens a right to voice their own opinion in the decision - he's perfectly within his right to simply leave.

Also, It’s worth adding we joined the InterLeft via a referendum.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=189321

America The Greater

Krayo29 wrote:New-Union, what promt did you write to the AI ​​to generate The Black Massacre?

Perhaps the only correct way to ensure which contributions the players make and what the AI ​​makes, will be to include the promt that the players give to the AI.

New-Union, what was the objective or purpose of introducing a massacre of that magnitude, which in real life would be considered crimes against humanity, once Maen had already surrendered?

This is for all players and RP moderators: Why are real-life arguments used for the rest of the issues, such as espionage, travel time, technology,... And yet not for a crime against humanity?

Long data chat

I sent all the information of my nation to the gpt chat, rp rules, and the lkandria dispatch to him

I carried out the massacre because I needed to boost my agricultural industry to supply India and not deal with instability

I’m about to head into a water park.

Brocklandia, Mjau

I am appointing Flomonga as Confirmation Committee Chair.

Speaking of which, Confirmation Committee will start sometime today, and will end on the 27th.

Flomonga, Western Arba Fir

Krayo29

If you continue to doubt

India's population is 1 billion

Malaysia's is 33 million

Only with the population of Malaysia, I can produce 407.520,000 tons of Fertilizer

New-Union wrote:Krayo29

If you continue to doubt

India's population is 1 billion

Malaysia's is 33 million

Only with the population of Malaysia, I can produce 407.520,000 tons of Fertilizer

Each person is 12 kg of fertiliser

New-Union wrote:Long data chat

I sent all the information of my nation to the gpt chat, rp rules, and the lkandria dispatch to him

I carried out the massacre because I needed to boost my agricultural industry to supply India and not deal with instability

OOhh! very ethical

Krayo29 wrote:OOhh! very ethical

Meh, not really, I didn't do it because of ethnicity, Just so my nation doesn't have a hunger crisis

Krayo29 wrote:OOhh! very ethical

We don't care about that

Just look at my nation

We kill people randomly so that we can add them to our food supply, currently the government is working on building farms to breed and grow humans to eat as well as cows, pigs, sheep...aliens.

Claibornia wrote:We don't care about that

Just look at my nation

We kill people randomly so that we can add them to our food supply, currently the government is working on building farms to breed and grow humans to eat as well as cows, pigs, sheep...aliens.

Hell naw . . .

Syrasia wrote:You are absolutely correct. BBCode is for everyone. However, that also comes with the responsibility to recognise that people put in a huge amount of effort and work so that their code looks nice. When people do not acknowledge that, that is where the problem lies.

Not only did you not acknowledge those who worked hard, you also attempted to use lies in order to attempt some form of damage control when you were found out. You need to learn to be mature, swallow your pride, and realise you made a mistake.

well, the person I got it from stole it from you.

Lemme link it

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=2018300

bruv stole it from u

Pyhdon wrote:well, the person I got it from stole it from you.

Lemme link it

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=2018300

bruv stole it from u

Of course it has to be vordo

New-Union wrote:Of course it has to be vordo

yh, he stole it and then I came across it, with no citations, and said, bung vordo, I dont think it came from him but I dont know where it came from so it must be copyable

Wish me luck in my baseball tournament!

Puttt

Western Arba Fir wrote:Wish me luck in my baseball tournament!

I will give you 100 million baseals

Western Arba Fir

Western Arba Fir wrote:Wish me luck in my baseball tournament!

We will. (no wonder it says I like baseball)

Western Arba Fir

Pyhdon wrote:well, the person I got it from stole it from you.

Lemme link it

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=2018300

bruv stole it from u

I apologise for doubting you at first, though given your past behaviour I do feel I was justified. I have contacted Vordoslavia to see about fixing this, thankyou for raising it with me.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=new-union/detail=factbook/id=2513737

What do you guys think

Western Arba Fir

New-Union wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/nation=new-union/detail=factbook/id=2513737

What do you guys think

I think tanks are on sale. Should I buy them?

Syrasia wrote:I apologise for doubting you at first, though given your past behaviour I do feel I was justified. I have contacted Vordoslavia to see about fixing this, thankyou for raising it with me.

so, lemme ask you,

[I]may I use the image please, Syrasia?

It is a really nice image, I really like it, it embodies the internet.

[/I]

and also,

[I]can I be back in the commonwealth?[/I]

New-Union wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/nation=new-union/detail=factbook/id=2513737

What do you guys think

nice,

fin!

Claibornia wrote:We don't care about that

Just look at my nation

We kill people randomly so that we can add them to our food supply, currently the government is working on building farms to breed and grow humans to eat as well as cows, pigs, sheep...aliens.

you know my aliens are made of metal, right?

Pyhdon wrote:you know my aliens are made of metal, right?

ok?

why does that matter

Claibornia wrote:ok?

why does that matter

because its silly

Claibornia wrote:ok?

why does that matter

can you eat metal?

Gine Caruttiva wrote:because its silly

I know

Pyhdon wrote:can you eat metal?

you can try

still why does that matter

Claibornia wrote:you can try

still why does that matter

because my alien populace is the main Gaian alien

Pyhdon wrote:can you eat metal?

delicious copper ore

Gine Caruttiva wrote:delicious copper ore

it is porsomyium

Pyhdon wrote:so, lemme ask you,

[I]may I use the image please, Syrasia?

It is a really nice image, I really like it, it embodies the internet.

[/I]

and also,

[I]can I be back in the commonwealth?[/I]

To be frank, no, you cannot use it. It shows a custom map which I have spent a few months working on, and it would feel wrong to allow other people to use it. As for your position in Commonwealth, I would like to reconsider the dismissal. You have drive and a passion to move forward on NS which I do like.

I will offer you a package of readmission via telegrams shortly.

Socialistic Britain

Syrasia wrote:To be frank, no, you cannot use it. It shows a custom map which I have spent a few months working on, and it would feel wrong to allow other people to use it. As for your position in Commonwealth, I would like to reconsider the dismissal. You have drive and a passion to move forward on NS which I do like.

I will offer you a package of readmission via telegrams shortly.

yh, I just saw ur map.

Socialistic Britain

I just got home, now imma sleep.

Pyhdon wrote:because my alien populace is the main Gaian alien

uh huh

sure it is

Should TRTHNBB leave the InterLeft alliance?

Almost 2 years ago, in unprecedented fashion, The Region That Has No Big Banks voted overwhelmingly to join the Inter-regional alliance the InterLeft, receiving 30 votes for and 4 against. https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=189321

Back then, our foreign affairs and relations lacked depth, and the InterLeft offered our region the opportunity to grow close relations with regions who had similar leftist ideals. At the time the member regions were; Union of Ever Socialist Republics, The Union of Greater Onionist Nations, The Free Peoples Union and Wintercrest. The alliance was described an ongoing project to create a left-wing interregional alliance (of predominantly smaller regions), with the focus on creating a forum for dialogue in the pan-leftist spectrum with emphasis on cultural cooperation, diplomacy, and collective military defense.

However, in reflection, a lot has changed since 2022, our region has matured having 6 successive active governments, developing foreign and cultural affairs especially. Now with an active ambassador programme, great relations with our embassies, hosting regular events on our discord, and joint events as well. When looking in the mirror, we can say for certain our own foreign affairs are in a much stronger position than back then.

This brings us to our position as a member of the InterLeft. Recently, we have had government discussions about our membership, due to losing our IL discord server, as the owner of the server had their discord account hacked. The current members of the InterLeft are Democratic Socialist Assembly, Aurora, and Wintercrest, which throughout our membership we have developed exceptional relationships with, and we would want to do nothing to jeopardise these relationships with our friends and allies.

Yet, we cannot ignore the fact that InterLeft has stagnated for a long time now, losing a sense of purpose and direction. The InterLeft has been plagued with inactivity, and consecutive chancellors being unable to effectively realise any form of change within the organisation. Against the 3 main objectives of the alliance outlined at it’s inception; Cultural Cooperation, Military Defense and Diplomacy we have not managed to achieve as much as we would have wanted.

1. Cultural Cooperation, we have hosted some events on the InterLeft server, notably Civilisation nights and TTRPG; otherwise, there has been no real events organised under the InterLeft banner wider than the discord server.

2. Military Defense, we have a defensive pact, but no InterLeft military, nor would we want to participate in a military organisation with multiple regions as we have our own Liberation Forces.

3. Diplomacy, we have managed to develop great relations with the 3 member regions, however the alliance has reached a glass ceiling with there being very little other leftists regions who would want or even be eligible to join.

From my perspective as Minister of Foreign Affairs, It certainly feels like there’s an apathy towards the organisation, and many un addressed issues - like for instance the huge issue of it’s poor reputation as seen by many other regions in NS (for reasons out of our control). In addition, given the Interleft is a solely discord based community, many members of TRTHNBB are unable to properly participate in the alliance and many residents have little idea what the InterLeft is.

I am saddened we have got to the position where the InterLeft hasn’t really achieved everything we wished it too, however on the other hand I look at how far TRTHNBB has came in this period. When we have a focus on our Regional Affairs, and Foreign we can reap rewards for our own region. Leaving the InterLeft gives us a greater opportunity to focus on developing our own regional and foreign affairs.

Tomorrow, I will share a poll on whether we should vote to leave the InterLeft. Please do share your views on the RMB or discord server. I’d be happy to answer any questions you have.

Kind regards

New United Common-lands

Minister of Foreign Affairs

Yodle, America The Greater, The Independent States Of Allied Forces, Socialistic Britain, The Washington Federation, The Republic Of Konsa, Mjau, Western Arba Fir

New United Common-Lands wrote:Should TRTHNBB leave the InterLeft alliance?

Almost 2 years ago, in unprecedented fashion, The Region That Has No Big Banks voted overwhelmingly to join the Inter-regional alliance the InterLeft, receiving 30 votes for and 4 against. https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=189321

Back then, our foreign affairs and relations lacked depth, and the InterLeft offered our region the opportunity to grow close relations with regions who had similar leftist ideals. At the time the member regions were; Union of Ever Socialist Republics, The Union of Greater Onionist Nations, The Free Peoples Union and Wintercrest. The alliance was described an ongoing project to create a left-wing interregional alliance (of predominantly smaller regions), with the focus on creating a forum for dialogue in the pan-leftist spectrum with emphasis on cultural cooperation, diplomacy, and collective military defense.

However, in reflection, a lot has changed since 2022, our region has matured having 6 successive active governments, developing foreign and cultural affairs especially. Now with an active ambassador programme, great relations with our embassies, hosting regular events on our discord, and joint events as well. When looking in the mirror, we can say for certain our own foreign affairs are in a much stronger position than back then.

This brings us to our position as a member of the InterLeft. Recently, we have had government discussions about our membership, due to losing our IL discord server, as the owner of the server had their discord account hacked. The current members of the InterLeft are Democratic Socialist Assembly, Aurora, and Wintercrest, which throughout our membership we have developed exceptional relationships with, and we would want to do nothing to jeopardise these relationships with our friends and allies.

Yet, we cannot ignore the fact that InterLeft has stagnated for a long time now, losing a sense of purpose and direction. The InterLeft has been plagued with inactivity, and consecutive chancellors being unable to effectively realise any form of change within the organisation. Against the 3 main objectives of the alliance outlined at it’s inception; Cultural Cooperation, Military Defense and Diplomacy we have not managed to achieve as much as we would have wanted.

1. Cultural Cooperation, we have hosted some events on the InterLeft server, notably Civilisation nights and TTRPG; otherwise, there has been no real events organised under the InterLeft banner wider than the discord server.

2. Military Defense, we have a defensive pact, but no InterLeft military, nor would we want to participate in a military organisation with multiple regions as we have our own Liberation Forces.

3. Diplomacy, we have managed to develop great relations with the 3 member regions, however the alliance has reached a glass ceiling with there being very little other leftists regions who would want or even be eligible to join.

From my perspective as Minister of Foreign Affairs, It certainly feels like there’s an apathy towards the organisation, and many un addressed issues - like for instance the huge issue of it’s poor reputation as seen by many other regions in NS (for reasons out of our control). In addition, given the Interleft is a solely discord based community, many members of TRTHNBB are unable to properly participate in the alliance and many residents have little idea what the InterLeft is.

I am saddened we have got to the position where the InterLeft hasn’t really achieved everything we wished it too, however on the other hand I look at how far TRTHNBB has came in this period. When we have a focus on our Regional Affairs, and Foreign we can reap rewards for our own region. Leaving the InterLeft gives us a greater opportunity to focus on developing our own regional and foreign affairs.

Tomorrow, I will share a poll on whether we should vote to leave the InterLeft. Please do share your views on the RMB or discord server. I’d be happy to answer any questions you have.

Kind regards

New United Common-lands

Minister of Foreign Affairs

TRTHNBB should leave the region that has no big banks.................................................................................

Socialistic Britain, Puttt, Western Arba Fir

Interleft has big barks, so they are doing treeson. I would have liked to call them sons of birches but it is too rude

Socialistic Britain, Ardeyn, Gine Caruttiva, Puttt

New United Common-Lands wrote:Should TRTHNBB leave the InterLeft alliance?

Almost 2 years ago, in unprecedented fashion, The Region That Has No Big Banks voted overwhelmingly to join the Inter-regional alliance the InterLeft, receiving 30 votes for and 4 against. https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=189321

Back then, our foreign affairs and relations lacked depth, and the InterLeft offered our region the opportunity to grow close relations with regions who had similar leftist ideals. At the time the member regions were; Union of Ever Socialist Republics, The Union of Greater Onionist Nations, The Free Peoples Union and Wintercrest. The alliance was described an ongoing project to create a left-wing interregional alliance (of predominantly smaller regions), with the focus on creating a forum for dialogue in the pan-leftist spectrum with emphasis on cultural cooperation, diplomacy, and collective military defense.

However, in reflection, a lot has changed since 2022, our region has matured having 6 successive active governments, developing foreign and cultural affairs especially. Now with an active ambassador programme, great relations with our embassies, hosting regular events on our discord, and joint events as well. When looking in the mirror, we can say for certain our own foreign affairs are in a much stronger position than back then.

This brings us to our position as a member of the InterLeft. Recently, we have had government discussions about our membership, due to losing our IL discord server, as the owner of the server had their discord account hacked. The current members of the InterLeft are Democratic Socialist Assembly, Aurora, and Wintercrest, which throughout our membership we have developed exceptional relationships with, and we would want to do nothing to jeopardise these relationships with our friends and allies.

Yet, we cannot ignore the fact that InterLeft has stagnated for a long time now, losing a sense of purpose and direction. The InterLeft has been plagued with inactivity, and consecutive chancellors being unable to effectively realise any form of change within the organisation. Against the 3 main objectives of the alliance outlined at it’s inception; Cultural Cooperation, Military Defense and Diplomacy we have not managed to achieve as much as we would have wanted.

1. Cultural Cooperation, we have hosted some events on the InterLeft server, notably Civilisation nights and TTRPG; otherwise, there has been no real events organised under the InterLeft banner wider than the discord server.

2. Military Defense, we have a defensive pact, but no InterLeft military, nor would we want to participate in a military organisation with multiple regions as we have our own Liberation Forces.

3. Diplomacy, we have managed to develop great relations with the 3 member regions, however the alliance has reached a glass ceiling with there being very little other leftists regions who would want or even be eligible to join.

From my perspective as Minister of Foreign Affairs, It certainly feels like there’s an apathy towards the organisation, and many un addressed issues - like for instance the huge issue of it’s poor reputation as seen by many other regions in NS (for reasons out of our control). In addition, given the Interleft is a solely discord based community, many members of TRTHNBB are unable to properly participate in the alliance and many residents have little idea what the InterLeft is.

I am saddened we have got to the position where the InterLeft hasn’t really achieved everything we wished it too, however on the other hand I look at how far TRTHNBB has came in this period. When we have a focus on our Regional Affairs, and Foreign we can reap rewards for our own region. Leaving the InterLeft gives us a greater opportunity to focus on developing our own regional and foreign affairs.

Tomorrow, I will share a poll on whether we should vote to leave the InterLeft. Please do share your views on the RMB or discord server. I’d be happy to answer any questions you have.

Kind regards

New United Common-lands

Minister of Foreign Affairs

Input from the Ministry of Culture's point of view:

Upon leaving the IL, we'd realistically either have to restrict the "IL" Olympics to just NBB members or expand it to all of our embassies (possibly including members of JEFF who we don't already have embassies with), whichever we prefer

Apart from that, we have no personal leanings for or against leaving.

Kind regards from The Washington Federation, Minister of Culture

America The Greater, Socialistic Britain, New United Common-Lands, Puttt, Western Arba Fir

Lemona k

Kill Pyhdon's general, look at his post

New-Union wrote:Lemona k

Kill Pyhdon's general, look at his post

he has a gun on him, I will bomb lemona with bleach If he does

Socialistic Britain

New United Common-Lands wrote:Should TRTHNBB leave the InterLeft alliance?

Almost 2 years ago, in unprecedented fashion, The Region That Has No Big Banks voted overwhelmingly to join the Inter-regional alliance the InterLeft, receiving 30 votes for and 4 against. https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=189321

Back then, our foreign affairs and relations lacked depth, and the InterLeft offered our region the opportunity to grow close relations with regions who had similar leftist ideals. At the time the member regions were; Union of Ever Socialist Republics, The Union of Greater Onionist Nations, The Free Peoples Union and Wintercrest. The alliance was described an ongoing project to create a left-wing interregional alliance (of predominantly smaller regions), with the focus on creating a forum for dialogue in the pan-leftist spectrum with emphasis on cultural cooperation, diplomacy, and collective military defense.

However, in reflection, a lot has changed since 2022, our region has matured having 6 successive active governments, developing foreign and cultural affairs especially. Now with an active ambassador programme, great relations with our embassies, hosting regular events on our discord, and joint events as well. When looking in the mirror, we can say for certain our own foreign affairs are in a much stronger position than back then.

This brings us to our position as a member of the InterLeft. Recently, we have had government discussions about our membership, due to losing our IL discord server, as the owner of the server had their discord account hacked. The current members of the InterLeft are Democratic Socialist Assembly, Aurora, and Wintercrest, which throughout our membership we have developed exceptional relationships with, and we would want to do nothing to jeopardise these relationships with our friends and allies.

Yet, we cannot ignore the fact that InterLeft has stagnated for a long time now, losing a sense of purpose and direction. The InterLeft has been plagued with inactivity, and consecutive chancellors being unable to effectively realise any form of change within the organisation. Against the 3 main objectives of the alliance outlined at it’s inception; Cultural Cooperation, Military Defense and Diplomacy we have not managed to achieve as much as we would have wanted.

1. Cultural Cooperation, we have hosted some events on the InterLeft server, notably Civilisation nights and TTRPG; otherwise, there has been no real events organised under the InterLeft banner wider than the discord server.

2. Military Defense, we have a defensive pact, but no InterLeft military, nor would we want to participate in a military organisation with multiple regions as we have our own Liberation Forces.

3. Diplomacy, we have managed to develop great relations with the 3 member regions, however the alliance has reached a glass ceiling with there being very little other leftists regions who would want or even be eligible to join.

From my perspective as Minister of Foreign Affairs, It certainly feels like there’s an apathy towards the organisation, and many un addressed issues - like for instance the huge issue of it’s poor reputation as seen by many other regions in NS (for reasons out of our control). In addition, given the Interleft is a solely discord based community, many members of TRTHNBB are unable to properly participate in the alliance and many residents have little idea what the InterLeft is.

I am saddened we have got to the position where the InterLeft hasn’t really achieved everything we wished it too, however on the other hand I look at how far TRTHNBB has came in this period. When we have a focus on our Regional Affairs, and Foreign we can reap rewards for our own region. Leaving the InterLeft gives us a greater opportunity to focus on developing our own regional and foreign affairs.

Tomorrow, I will share a poll on whether we should vote to leave the InterLeft. Please do share your views on the RMB or discord server. I’d be happy to answer any questions you have.

Kind regards

New United Common-lands

Minister of Foreign Affairs

As an aspiring member of the ministry of defense, I must say that the IL has been very neglectful raided regions. As you said, there is no military, and no coordination in any way. Meanwhile, our own personal military has grown exceptionally, and will hopefully see continued growth under Gine Caruttiva. So from a defense perspective, there isn’t really much the IL is doing, while we as a region are doing much more.

Gine Caruttiva, Puttt, Maen

I'm in favor of exiting IL. Since rejoining the region and NS last October, I've found IL sort of confusing - it seems like it should be a big deal, but really it doesn't do much of anything. I've written their only non-constitution law personally. There just isn't a point to IL, unfortunately.

Puttt, Maen

Pyhdon wrote:he has a gun on him, I will bomb lemona with bleach If he does

You are throwing water on them?

Socialistic Britain

Claibornia wrote:As an aspiring member of the ministry of defense, I must say that the IL has been very neglectful raided regions. As you said, there is no military, and no coordination in any way. Meanwhile, our own personal military has grown exceptionally, and will hopefully see continued growth under Gine Caruttiva. So from a defense perspective, there isn’t really much the IL is doing, while we as a region are doing much more.

America The Greater wrote:I'm in favor of exiting IL. Since rejoining the region and NS last October, I've found IL sort of confusing - it seems like it should be a big deal, but really it doesn't do much of anything. I've written their only non-constitution law personally. There just isn't a point to IL, unfortunately.

Agreed.

Socialistic Britain, Gine Caruttiva, Puttt

New-Union wrote:You are throwing water on them?

the most dangerous weapon ever

Socialistic Britain wrote:the most dangerous weapon ever

Oh hey brit

Passing by?

Socialistic Britain

Pyhdon wrote:because my alien populace is the main Gaian alien

Pyhdon.. I like the neat idea of your alien population being made of metal.

but im gonna be honest, im gonna have to veto this and say it is.. semi-godmodding? also doesnt make too much sense

unless they're robots or something

New-Union wrote:Oh hey brit

Passing by?

Yep, trying to keep my sanity intact 😎

Maen

Socialistic Britain wrote:Pyhdon.. I like the neat idea of your alien population being made of metal.

but im gonna be honest, im gonna have to veto this and say it is.. semi-godmodding? also doesnt make too much sense

unless they're robots or something

yea he cant just say that like he own half of gaia

Socialistic Britain

Claibornia wrote:yea he cant just say that like he own half of gaia

skrongly sqronjly

:3

Maen

Socialistic Britain wrote:skrongly sqronjly

:3

squid

can i be an rp mod please i need something interesting to do and gine wont let me do rmb :(

Socialistic Britain

Pyhdon wrote:Interleft has big barks, so they are doing treeson. I would have liked to call them sons of birches but it is too rude

this is unironically the best message ive ever seen in my entire life

Socialistic Britain, Krayo29

Claibornia wrote:squid

can i be an rp mod please i need something interesting to do and gine wont let me do rmb :(

Socialistic Britain wrote:skrongly sqronjly

:3

Can i?

I do realistic RP and I'm always active

Socialistic Britain

New United Common-Lands wrote:Should TRTHNBB leave the InterLeft alliance?

Almost 2 years ago, in unprecedented fashion, The Region That Has No Big Banks voted overwhelmingly to join the Inter-regional alliance the InterLeft, receiving 30 votes for and 4 against. https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=189321

Back then, our foreign affairs and relations lacked depth, and the InterLeft offered our region the opportunity to grow close relations with regions who had similar leftist ideals. At the time the member regions were; Union of Ever Socialist Republics, The Union of Greater Onionist Nations, The Free Peoples Union and Wintercrest. The alliance was described an ongoing project to create a left-wing interregional alliance (of predominantly smaller regions), with the focus on creating a forum for dialogue in the pan-leftist spectrum with emphasis on cultural cooperation, diplomacy, and collective military defense.

However, in reflection, a lot has changed since 2022, our region has matured having 6 successive active governments, developing foreign and cultural affairs especially. Now with an active ambassador programme, great relations with our embassies, hosting regular events on our discord, and joint events as well. When looking in the mirror, we can say for certain our own foreign affairs are in a much stronger position than back then.

This brings us to our position as a member of the InterLeft. Recently, we have had government discussions about our membership, due to losing our IL discord server, as the owner of the server had their discord account hacked. The current members of the InterLeft are Democratic Socialist Assembly, Aurora, and Wintercrest, which throughout our membership we have developed exceptional relationships with, and we would want to do nothing to jeopardise these relationships with our friends and allies.

Yet, we cannot ignore the fact that InterLeft has stagnated for a long time now, losing a sense of purpose and direction. The InterLeft has been plagued with inactivity, and consecutive chancellors being unable to effectively realise any form of change within the organisation. Against the 3 main objectives of the alliance outlined at it’s inception; Cultural Cooperation, Military Defense and Diplomacy we have not managed to achieve as much as we would have wanted.

1. Cultural Cooperation, we have hosted some events on the InterLeft server, notably Civilisation nights and TTRPG; otherwise, there has been no real events organised under the InterLeft banner wider than the discord server.

2. Military Defense, we have a defensive pact, but no InterLeft military, nor would we want to participate in a military organisation with multiple regions as we have our own Liberation Forces.

3. Diplomacy, we have managed to develop great relations with the 3 member regions, however the alliance has reached a glass ceiling with there being very little other leftists regions who would want or even be eligible to join.

From my perspective as Minister of Foreign Affairs, It certainly feels like there’s an apathy towards the organisation, and many un addressed issues - like for instance the huge issue of it’s poor reputation as seen by many other regions in NS (for reasons out of our control). In addition, given the Interleft is a solely discord based community, many members of TRTHNBB are unable to properly participate in the alliance and many residents have little idea what the InterLeft is.

I am saddened we have got to the position where the InterLeft hasn’t really achieved everything we wished it too, however on the other hand I look at how far TRTHNBB has came in this period. When we have a focus on our Regional Affairs, and Foreign we can reap rewards for our own region. Leaving the InterLeft gives us a greater opportunity to focus on developing our own regional and foreign affairs.

Tomorrow, I will share a poll on whether we should vote to leave the InterLeft. Please do share your views on the RMB or discord server. I’d be happy to answer any questions you have.

Kind regards

New United Common-lands

Minister of Foreign Affairs

This is an undemocratic move. First voicings of such intentions had appeared in IL discord around two days ago, and you knew that at least one IL official had intentions to campaign for you not leaving. Yet here you are, not even letting other side to prepare, while rolling all your arguments right with referendum announcement. It's clear for which result you're aiming and what methods you use to achieve it. And yes, consider this an official condemnation of your act by the government of Aurora.

Soviet Federation Of Eurasia, out.

Yodle, America The Greater, Wintercrest Founder, Tea Island Systems, Socialistic Britain

New-Union wrote:Can i?

I do realistic RP and I'm always active

Claibornia wrote:squid

can i be an rp mod please i need something interesting to do and gine wont let me do rmb :(

I'm not too sure.. I'd have to ask washfed

but perchance

Socialistic Britain wrote:I'm not too sure.. I'd have to ask washfed

but perchance

Oki

Socialistic Britain

Socialistic Britain wrote:skrongly sqronjly

:3

skrongly sqronjly

:3

Socialistic Britain, Maen

Socialistic Britain wrote:skrongly sqronjly

:3

skrongly sqronjly

:3

Socialistic Britain, Maen

Gine Caruttiva wrote:skrongly sqronjly

:3

New-Union wrote:skrongly sqronjly

:3

Socialistic Britain wrote:skrongly sqronjly

:3

skrongly sqronjly :3

Socialistic Britain

Maen wrote:skrongly sqronjly :3

New-Union wrote:skrongly sqronjly

:3

Gine Caruttiva wrote:skrongly sqronjly

:3

skrongly sqronjly :3

Socialistic Britain

Gine Caruttiva wrote:skrongly sqronjly :3

ive started a revolution

oh no

Gine Caruttiva wrote:skrongly sqronjly :3

skrongly sqronjly :3

Socialistic Britain

Socialistic Britain wrote:ive started a revolution

oh no

the sillyness is unstoppable

Socialistic Britain

Please chillax with the spam

Yodle, Socialistic Britain

New United Common-Lands wrote:Please chillax with the spam

my apologies

Socialistic Britain

Socialistic Britain wrote:ive started a revolution

oh no

skrongly sqronjly >:3

Socialistic Britain, Gine Caruttiva

New-Union wrote:Can i?

I do realistic RP and I'm always active

Claibornia wrote:squid

can i be an rp mod please i need something interesting to do and gine wont let me do rmb :(

That can do!

Socialistic Britain

Maen wrote:skrongly sqronjly >:3

:3

Socialistic Britain

Soviet Federation Of Eurasia wrote:This is an undemocratic move. First voicings of such intentions had appeared in IL discord around two days ago, and you knew that at least one IL official had intentions to campaign for you not leaving. Yet here you are, not even letting other side to prepare, while rolling all your arguments right with referendum announcement. It's clear for which result you're aiming and what methods you use to achieve it. And yes, consider this an official condemnation of your act by the government of Aurora.

Soviet Federation Of Eurasia, out.

While I understand your concern, I feel an official condemnation towards us is taking things out of proportion here.

Yodle, America The Greater, Socialistic Britain, New United Common-Lands, Gine Caruttiva

Gine Caruttiva wrote:my apologies

skrongly sqronjly apolojilys :3

Socialistic Britain

Gine Caruttiva wrote:the sillyness is unstoppable

Maen wrote:skrongly sqronjly >:3

ohhh nooOOOO

New United Common-Lands wrote:Please chillax with the spam

us? the silly region? stop with the spam?

treeson

:3

Maen wrote:skrongly sqronjly apolojilys :3

sqronjily flujlify :3

Socialistic Britain

Gine Caruttiva wrote::3

>:3 skrongly? sqronjly???

Socialistic Britain, Gine Caruttiva

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