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IC: Kade has ordered the Kaitiland navy to be deployed, and block the UFD fleet.

"All ships, unless proven friendly, will be treated as an enemy, and will be subject to the full force of the Kaitiland navy. I understand your reasoning for doing this, but things here are fine. No one has been executed, the masses are not sick, and everyone is fed. This is a great improvement over the last Monarchy, and honestly, you're all over reacting."

"And yes, while our system may no longer be very 'democratic' you must remember what Rezinov wanted: to re-industrialize. Since I've been in power our infrastructure has risen, wages have risen, quality of life has risen for law abiding citizens."

OOC: Yeah, it's definitely as bad as you guys think it is.

IC: Ursus Island has announced intentions to double down on military modernization and is offering asylum to all Kaitiland refugees or turn coats which may escape from the country

Sogni Di Pace

Kaitiland wrote:IC: Kade has ordered the Kaitiland navy to be deployed, and block the UFD fleet.

"All ships, unless proven friendly, will be treated as an enemy, and will be subject to the full force of the Kaitiland navy. I understand your reasoning for doing this, but things here are fine. No one has been executed, the masses are not sick, and everyone is fed. This is a great improvement over the last Monarchy, and honestly, you're all over reacting."

"And yes, while our system may no longer be very 'democratic' you must remember what Rezinov wanted: to re-industrialize. Since I've been in power our infrastructure has risen, wages have risen, quality of life has risen for law abiding citizens."

OOC: Yeah, it's definitely as bad as you guys think it is.

OOC: ay blyat, my offer still stands: con eso y un bizcocho, te jodes a las ocho

The newcomer Confederacy of Neburian Regions greets you all. Burst out from a recent bloody revolution and civil war, the new Neburian ruling body, the General Assembly of Neburian Trade Unions, makes an international call for help in this struggling time while is confident that no matter the cost, the Neburian revolutionary forces will be responsable enough to unite and be capable of moving forward the construction of a true Free Land of Neburia.

United Federal Districts, Ursus Island

Neburia wrote:The newcomer Confederacy of Neburian Regions greets you all. Burst out from a recent bloody revolution and civil war, the new Neburian ruling body, the General Assembly of Neburian Trade Unions, makes an international call for help in this struggling time while is confident that no matter the cost, the Neburian revolutionary forces will be responsable enough to unite and be capable of moving forward the construction of a true Free Land of Neburia.

Greetings

IC : The Anarchist Federation of Sarrepont has called the International Anarchists Brigades to help the Confederacy of Anarchist Icarian Regions, called «The Free land of Neburia».

We will send manpower and materials to help the reconstruction of the Confederacy.

Neburia

Sarrepont wrote:Greetings

IC : The Anarchist Federation of Sarrepont has called the International Anarchists Brigades to help the Confederacy of Anarchist Icarian Regions, called «The Free land of Neburia».

We will send manpower and materials to help the reconstruction of the Confederacy.

IC: I concur.

The new Siegfried Line is building on the border of germany and italy. And the line is building for the security of Fourth Poland

Fourth Poland wrote:The new Siegfried Line is building on the border of germany and italy. And the line is building for the security of Fourth Poland

The Siegfried Line will be finish in 3 years and 7 months

Neburia wrote:The newcomer Confederacy of Neburian Regions greets you all. Burst out from a recent bloody revolution and civil war, the new Neburian ruling body, the General Assembly of Neburian Trade Unions, makes an international call for help in this struggling time while is confident that no matter the cost, the Neburian revolutionary forces will be responsable enough to unite and be capable of moving forward the construction of a true Free Land of Neburia.

IC: The Kingdom of Molcadara will send humanitarian aid to keep the people of Neburia healthy and fed during this difficult transition.

Kaitiland wrote:IC: Kade has ordered the Kaitiland navy to be deployed, and block the UFD fleet.

"All ships, unless proven friendly, will be treated as an enemy, and will be subject to the full force of the Kaitiland navy. I understand your reasoning for doing this, but things here are fine. No one has been executed, the masses are not sick, and everyone is fed. This is a great improvement over the last Monarchy, and honestly, you're all over reacting."

"And yes, while our system may no longer be very 'democratic' you must remember what Rezinov wanted: to re-industrialize. Since I've been in power our infrastructure has risen, wages have risen, quality of life has risen for law abiding citizens."

OOC: Yeah, it's definitely as bad as you guys think it is.

IC: While the Kingdom of Molcadara shares the international community's skepticism of the new Kaitilander regime, we will not abide by unprovoked external aggression against Kaitiland. They have their national sovereignty, they have made no threats against the international community, and have made no moves against the Molcadaran military base. By all current information, the current regime represents no threat.

Neburia

If I have to read through the text of one more nationstates High school sports rp I'm going to use that as a justification to burn down an Arby's

Arguin Isle wrote:If I have to read through the text of one more nationstates High school sports rp I'm going to use that as a justification to burn down an Arby's

I love Arby's.

OOC: Again, a reminder for the regional map, because some people didn't listen. DO NOT BE IMPERIALIST. Don't have territory on other continents, and do not ask for such territory. Thank you.

Eastern Behrezvia wrote:OOC: Again, a reminder for the regional map, because some people didn't listen. DO NOT BE IMPERIALIST. Don't have territory on other continents, and do not ask for such territory. Thank you.

I'm guessing this is a friendly jab at me but it's not like I'm not asking for global domination. It's a small island off the coast of turkey. Don't make me challenge you to a game of UNO.

Kaitiland wrote:OOC: International travel is banned, evacuation isn't very likely.

OOC: well considering that there were disputes a bit ago, not many citizens would be in your country. I was thinking more along the lines of military helicopters evacuating from the embassy carrying civilians.

Arguin Isle wrote:If I have to read through the text of one more nationstates High school sports rp I'm going to use that as a justification to burn down an Arby's

High school pedophile RP amirite

The Godfather

Greetings The Region That Has No Big Banks,

I am [nation=short]Solid Eagle[/nation], Imperial Fatherland's Minister of Foreign Affairs. I am eager to work with you guys and hope we can strengthen our bond as great, proud regions. If there any questions or concerns, you can telegram me anytime.

Thank you for your time.

Ansuriel, Yodle

Post self-deleted by Eastern Behrezvia.

Primera Republica De Cantabria wrote:High school pedophile RP amirite

If only it weren't true though...

*Orders hits on 47 pedophiles.*

I start to build the new line and 2 battleships in hamburg

sorry not in hamburg but in kiel

The battleships will be finish in 3 months and one aircraft carrier will be build in 1 year and 3 months

Fourth Poland wrote:The battleships will be finish in 3 months and one aircraft carrier will be build in 1 year and 3 months

OOC: they will be build in kiel

Kaitiland wrote:IC: Kade has ordered the Kaitiland navy to be deployed, and block the UFD fleet.

"All ships, unless proven friendly, will be treated as an enemy, and will be subject to the full force of the Kaitiland navy. I understand your reasoning for doing this, but things here are fine. No one has been executed, the masses are not sick, and everyone is fed. This is a great improvement over the last Monarchy, and honestly, you're all over reacting."

"And yes, while our system may no longer be very 'democratic' you must remember what Rezinov wanted: to re-industrialize. Since I've been in power our infrastructure has risen, wages have risen, quality of life has risen for law abiding citizens."

OOC: Yeah, it's definitely as bad as you guys think it is.

IC: The 8th UFD fleet is in international waters consisting of a helicopter carrier and 2 destroyers. An attempt to block our fleet will escalate the situation. This force is being used to evacuate unimportant staff of the embassy.

IC: Ursus Island sent a covert ops team into Kaitiland, they specialize in high tech surveillance and extraction. The goal of the mission is to gather intelligence on the new regime and if possible escape with any surviving members of the old government in hopes that it may be reestablished. The team is about 8 members and they are dressed in civilian clothes and ethnically unidentifiable from native Kaitilanders. We hope to see their safe return with valuable assets.

OOC: This is not an official announcement as obviously you don't declare spy missions, so the international community would be unaware of this mission unless operatives are caught

Ursus Island wrote:IC: Ursus Island sent a covert ops team into Kaitiland, they specialize in high tech surveillance and extraction. The goal of the mission is to gather intelligence on the new regime and if possible escape with any surviving members of the old government in hopes that it may be reestablished. The team is about 8 members and they are dressed in civilian clothes and ethnically unidentifiable from native Kaitilanders. We hope to see their safe return with valuable assets.

OOC: This is not an official announcement as obviously you don't declare spy missions, so the international community would be unaware of this mission unless operatives are caught

OOC: You should really quote or mention Kaitiland in posts like these, Ursus. Like so: Kaitiland

IC: Inter-ethnic relations continue to deteriorate in the Celestial Empire of Shangyan; while natives and the foreigners, whether immigrants, tourists, or workers, have always tended to keep to their own kinds and be loathe to mingle, due to striking cultural and racial differences, the growth of social media has only accelerated this trend. The voices of those who resent the presence of peoples who fail to adhere to their dearest traditions, customs, and social norms, continue to become louder and more popular online, as are those voices who resent how international pressures in the past led them to water down their culture to satisfy foreign standards. The foreign population in the Celestial Empire shares the opposite opinion of the natives, considering them alien and other, cultural and religious barbarians, and Statists who are naturally servile and uncritical of their traditional total state. All of this rages online, but on the surface in ordinary Shangyanian society, all seems tranquil and calm.

Ursus Island wrote:IC: Ursus Island sent a covert ops team into Kaitiland, they specialize in high tech surveillance and extraction. The goal of the mission is to gather intelligence on the new regime and if possible escape with any surviving members of the old government in hopes that it may be reestablished. The team is about 8 members and they are dressed in civilian clothes and ethnically unidentifiable from native Kaitilanders. We hope to see their safe return with valuable assets.

OOC: This is not an official announcement as obviously you don't declare spy missions, so the international community would be unaware of this mission unless operatives are caught

IC: 4 undocumented Kaitilanders have been sent to work camps for not following the working law.

IC: The Eastern Behrezvian government has condemned the policy of Kaitiland, denouncing the use of forced labour.

Hello, so I'm now Minister of Domestic Affairs for the SLU (with Freeland Newworldia), and we're hoping to have some interregional discussions and/or conservative/liberal debates. We'd love to have you guys debate with us. Telegram me, Minister of Foreign Affairs New Ireland And Wales), or WA Delegate Austerain if you'd like to help us get started, and stay tuned for some more news soon.

United Federal Districts, Yodle

(This is my first attempt at using the map and role play so bear with me)

IC: Orchestralia has been blatantly disrespected by The Holy Empire of Fourth Poland. Fourth Poland threatened an invasion if we did not grant their wish of giving up an amount of territory to them. I hearby announce to the public that this will not be occurring. This disrespectful attack on our sovereignty should not be tolerated; however because we are a pacifist nation and remain officially nutral on most issues, we will not attack the Fourth Poland. We hope that they honor our sovereignty and decide not to attack.

Concertmaster Hillary Hahn

(Tell me how this went I want feed back)

IC: The Kingdom of Molcadara consolidates its control over the sphere of occupation it seized in the initial offensives into [nation=short]Ord Trea[/nation], providing its occupied zones with all of the welfare and benefits it affords its own citizenry, and dropping humanitarian aid into the areas it has yet to establish control over, before steadily continuing to advance on LRA-controlled territories. The Molcadaran Military uses non-lethal methods and caution over haste to capture as many enemy combatants as possible, rather than killing them in almost anything except immediately required self-defense. The Secretariat of the Molcadaran Inquisition brought in its personnel and infrastructure to minimize the possibility of organized resistance in the occupied territories with its programme of surveillance, as on the home front the Molcadaran populace responds with extreme enthusiasm to the mission of defending the international community and rehabilitating the Ord Trean people.

Eastern Behrezvia wrote:IC: The Eastern Behrezvian government has condemned the policy of Kaitiland, denouncing the use of forced labour.

IC: "They were obviously 'hide aways', they knew the law, and decided to try and escape it. Besides, no government can reasonably afford free-loaders." Kade replied to the Behrezvian government.

Kaitiland wrote:IC: "They were obviously 'hide aways', they knew the law, and decided to try and escape it. Besides, no government can reasonably afford free-loaders." Kade replied to the Behrezvian government.

IC: The Kingdom of Molcadara would like to know if your so-called 'forced labor' is a form of welfare program that provides for the well-being of the unemployed by providing them with State employment.

Post self-deleted by Fourth Poland.

I Will not attack him ord do enythong against him. My ide was to get one provins that i can send supply to italy .

Anyone got any legislation for session VI of Parliament? We're in need of some.

Jiangai wrote:Anyone got any legislation for session VI of Parliament? We're in need of some.
I could go flipping through laws and the constitution see if anything needs fixing. You know what I'm going to do that

Jiangai

New West Tropico wrote:I could go flipping through laws and the constitution see if anything needs fixing. You know what I'm going to do that

Cool, that'll be good. Please make sure it's in the correct format: http://www.princetonmodelcongress.com/delegates-write-bill/

Jiangai wrote:Cool, that'll be good. Please make sure it's in the correct format: http://www.princetonmodelcongress.com/delegates-write-bill/

OOC: The regional format, please.

Jiangai wrote:

Cool, that'll be good. Please make sure it's in the correct format: http://www.princetonmodelcongress.com/delegates-write-bill/

Could write up an example like a template of sorts

New West Tropico wrote:Could write up an example like a template of sorts
*Could you

the first heavy cruiser has been completed and can start their office fleet

New West Tropico wrote:*Could you

OOC: I believe Yodle already published one of those.

OOC: And that part of the Siegfried Line would be built on the border with orchestrialia will not be built instead, it will only be a few small bunkers and defense soon will be built at strategic points just for safety

Fourth Poland wrote:the first heavy cruiser has been completed and can start their office fleet

No Navy has built cruisers this century. Cruisers in the way you are probably thinking of them are obsolete.

Sorry I mean destroyer

Jiangai wrote:Anyone got any legislation for session VI of Parliament? We're in need of some.

I have an idea for changing appointment of Ministers to Election of them.

Jiangai

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Eastern Behrezvia wrote:I have an idea for changing appointment of Ministers to Election of them.

I think that opens the door to intergovernmental infighting and factionalism, which can only result in a lack of unified and coherent government action, while adding little to the meaningful representation of the population, which is best represented through the election of the President, with the government as a whole thereby representing the coherent majority will, as opposed to being divided into camps in favor of disparate interests, which generally results in inefficiency and provides the people with a poor performance basis for judging the correctness of any of their electoral choices, given that it would be more difficult to determine which party is more to blame for any performance failures.

Shangyan wrote:I think that opens the door to intergovernmental infighting and factionalism, which can only result in a lack of unified and coherent government action, while adding little to the meaningful representation of the population, which is best represented through the election of the President, with the government as a whole thereby representing the coherent majority will, as opposed to being divided into camps in favor of disparate interests, which generally results in inefficiency and provides the people with a poor performance basis for judging the correctness of any of their electoral choices, given that it would be more difficult to determine which party is more to blame for any performance failures.

Fair enough. I'd still like to think it'd be beneficial.

IC: As the war with Ord Trea progresses, there are talks throughout the Capital of installing a government friendly to the NCR within the war-scarred nation. President Sanders is considering this carefully and would like to hear the opinion of the other nations involved within the conflict.

Bernie Nation wrote:IC: As the war with Ord Trea progresses, there are talks throughout the Capital of installing a government friendly to the NCR within the war-scarred nation. President Sanders is considering this carefully and would like to hear the opinion of the other nations involved within the conflict.

IC: Eastern Behrezvia has stated that a government that is installed should be voted upon by the Ord Treans.

Comrades,

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Molcadara wrote:IC: The Kingdom of Molcadara would like to know if your so-called 'forced labor' is a form of welfare program that provides for the well-being of the unemployed by providing them with State employment.

IC: "This is true, however, they don't earn any money, because they broke the law, and they live in the labor camps, also, we choose their jobs based on economic needs instead of what the person is best at" Kade responds. This being said, Kaitiland is still rumored to be riddled with conflicts. It seems to be a place of strife for most, and luxury for others, it is even reported that some of the labor camps have threatened prisoners with execution if they shirk their duties. It is not known whether or not to trust some of these rumors, as they could have been easily created online.

Hey LOOK with your eyes I have a paper look and by using Freedom of the Press I can AND WILL post it here

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=new_west_tropico/detail=factbook/id=801512

Now go have a read why don't ya.

Yodle

Transferring my nation here to my other nation. You may not notice a difference. It's called, "[nation=short]Godfather[/nation]".

Yodle, Godfather

The Godfather wrote:Transferring my nation here to my other nation. You may not notice a difference. It's called, "[nation=short]Godfather[/nation]".

It is I.

Yodle

PSA for Session VI of Parliament

Greetings Residents,

Tonight at midnight EST Session VI of Parliament will commence! There are several pieces of legislation that will be going to vote this session. The bills and their overviews are as follows:

CA-7: Minister/Judge Elections and the Removal of Presidential Appointments (http://theplacethathasnobigbanks.org/topic47.html)

Authored by [nation=short]Eastern Behrezvia[/nation]

Overview of Bill's Effects:

. Regarding Ministerial and High Judge Positions, instead of them being Presidentially-Appointed and approved via majority vote in the Parliament, this legislation would make them positions which are elected by the Residents of the region. This means that individual Residents would campaign and run for all of the appointed offices in the region currently. (Note that High Judge positions have a term of one year and Ministrial positions have a term of four months, or as long as the current administration is in power)

. Regarding Ministral and High Judge Elections, there would be a campaigning period of several weeks. If a nation in a Ministrial or Judge position is impeached, resigns prematurely, is banished, or for whatever reason is removed their position, instead of a new election, the nation who received the second highest vote count will be offered the position and so on if the offer by that nation is refused. Currently there are no provisions for if none of the candidates want the position.

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CA-8: Removal of Presidential Term Limits (http://theplacethathasnobigbanks.org/topic46.html)

Authored by [nation=short]Shangyan[/nation]

Overview of Bill's Effects:

. This legislation would remove the Term Limit of 3 terms currently placed on the Presidency.

All Residents of the region should vote in this session! If you haven't already done so, please register for Parliament and make sure to vote afterwards! Pertinent links are below:

Link for Registering as a Member of Parliament (MP): https://goo.gl/forms/BrfUjxDw2c2BbRaq2

Link for the Session VI Voting Poll: https://goo.gl/forms/c0BUqm6seWQV2xpn1

Bernie Nation, Jiangai

Before you all vote, I'd like to say something about CA-7: Minister/Judge Elections and the Removal of Presidental Appointments.

While I appreciate Eastern Bahrezvia's attempt to instill Direct Democracy within our region, I am very concerned about how this would affect the balance of power between the three Branches of government, namely the Executive Branch. Currently the Executive Branch has three main powers:

1. The power to veto.

2. Presidental appointments.

3. Deciding the embassy policy (mostly done by the MoFA).

By making Ministries something that is voted on, you divide the Executive Branch and effectively remove the majority of its power, rendering it weak compared to the Parliament and Supreme Court. Furthermore, creating elections for such positions makes them more about politics, and less about merit. Finally, I'd like to remind everyone that ALL appointments are confirmed by the open Parliament, which is free for residents to vote in.

Overall, I'd like you to vote NAY on CA-7. The current system has proved a massive success, and there is no need to change it to something so untested and potentially dangerous. We cannot have the wrong people in these positions of power.

Yodle, Jiangai

Kaitiland wrote:IC: "This is true, however, they don't earn any money, because they broke the law, and they live in the labor camps, also, we choose their jobs based on economic needs instead of what the person is best at" Kade responds. This being said, Kaitiland is still rumored to be riddled with conflicts. It seems to be a place of strife for most, and luxury for others, it is even reported that some of the labor camps have threatened prisoners with execution if they shirk their duties. It is not known whether or not to trust some of these rumors, as they could have been easily created online.

IC: The Kingdom of Molcadara advises the Kaitilander Government to take a greater focus on promoting a positive international image, if it expects to retain Molcadara's military protection from external aggression.

Bernie Nation wrote:IC: As the war with Ord Trea progresses, there are talks throughout the Capital of installing a government friendly to the NCR within the war-scarred nation. President Sanders is considering this carefully and would like to hear the opinion of the other nations involved within the conflict.

IC: The Kingdom of Molcadara is finalizing a rather detailed opinion on the matter, and will express this opinion to the NCR soon.

Bernie Nation

WAIT STOP now that voting has begun I'd like to say something about removing term limits

A term limit exists as a way to avoid a monopoly on power now if you guys remember the most recent Presidential elections you'll remember Bernie won by a landslide and because of this Bernie could have a monopoly on power meaning he would be in power for the far future preventing new ideas from taking office but term limits avoid this so I encourage you all to vote nay on removing term limits.

New West Tropico wrote:WAIT STOP now that voting has begun I'd like to say something about removing term limits

A term limit exists as a way to avoid a monopoly on power now if you guys remember the most recent Presidential elections you'll remember Bernie won by a landslide and because of this Bernie could have a monopoly on power meaning he would be in power for the far future preventing new ideas from taking office but term limits avoid this so I encourage you all to vote nay on removing term limits.

Technically, the people are the ones with the monopoly on power, since the people are the ones electing the president, the people are the ones who are being affected by the president's decisions, and the people are the ones who can overturn presidential decisions. If the people want to elect a citizen of the region, there's no reason they shouldn't be allowed to.

Molcadara wrote:Technically, the people are the ones with the monopoly on power, since the people are the ones electing the president, the people are the ones who are being affected by the president's decisions, and the people are the ones who can overturn presidential decisions. If the people want to elect a citizen of the region, there's no reason they shouldn't be allowed to.

Furthermore, I'd say the entire idea of term limits is undemocratic, because it implies that the people are merely being deceived when they reelect someone, as opposed to being capable individuals who have recognized who best serves their interests. Competency and responsiveness to popular needs should be rewarded as long as they continue to persist, not be artificially handicapped in favor of a less representative outcome. Vote in favor of eliminating term limits.

They're an American quirk that the modern European democracies prove are unnecessary.

Shangyan wrote:Furthermore, I'd say the entire idea of term limits is undemocratic, because it implies that the people are merely being deceived when they reelect someone, as opposed to being capable individuals who have recognized who best serves their interests. Competency and responsiveness to popular needs should be rewarded as long as they continue to persist, not be artificially handicapped in favor of a less representative outcome. Vote in favor of eliminating term limits.

They're an American quirk that the modern European democracies prove are unnecessary.

The only people who benefit from term limits are less competent, less responsive candidates, who cannot hope to compete with someone whose appeal and performance meet a meritocratic ideal in service to the public, ultimately.

IC: Cody Stands on a stage being filmed by Ang Ulo News "I believe I have made my statement regarding the New Kingdom of Kaitiland very clear if not I'll put it into words. I do not support them in the slightest so I issue a statement to the Sarrum of Molcadara I suggest revoking protection of the nation until a new democratic is established as Kade is a mad man he uses forced labor claiming it's a welfare program for the unemployed despite the fact those working earn nothing it is crystal clear it's not a welfare program but a sick way of punishing those who pose a threat to Kade as king. Along with that if the rumors are true I shudder to think about the things we don't know about Kade's regime. The kingdom is a illegitimate government that does nothing more then oppress the kaitiland people."

New West Tropico wrote:IC: Cody Stands on a stage being filmed by Ang Ulo News "I believe I have made my statement regarding the New Kingdom of Kaitiland very clear if not I'll put it into words. I do not support them in the slightest so I issue a statement to the Sarrum of Molcadara I suggest revoking protection of the nation until a new democratic is established as Kade is a mad man he uses forced labor claiming it's a welfare program for the unemployed despite the fact those working earn nothing it is crystal clear it's not a welfare program but a sick way of punishing those who pose a threat to Kade as king. Along with that if the rumors are true I shudder to think about the things we don't know about Kade's regime. The kingdom is a illegitimate government that does nothing more then oppress the kaitiland people."

IC: The Kingdom of Molcadara respects the concerns of New West Tropico, and shares them to a degree. The Kingdom of Molcadara would like to be allowed to send a team of specialists to assess the material conditions and degree of popular support within the Kade Regime in Kaitiland.

Greetings, I am Sarrepont's most honorable puppet.

Bernie Nation, Eastern Behrezvia

Molcadara wrote:IC: The Kingdom of Molcadara respects the concerns of New West Tropico, and shares them to a degree. The Kingdom of Molcadara would like to be allowed to send a team of specialists to assess the material conditions and degree of popular support within the Kade Regime in Kaitiland.

IC: Kade has agreed to this, stating that the international community has been vehemently overreacting. However, Kade would like to request that if they pose a threat to the new government, that they be treated like the rest of the Kaitilanders and must obey the laws set in place. "It's the same as any nation in the history of nation, no matter where you're from, if you break the law then you will be punished."

Bernie Nation wrote:IC: As the war with Ord Trea progresses, there are talks throughout the Capital of installing a government friendly to the NCR within the war-scarred nation. President Sanders is considering this carefully and would like to hear the opinion of the other nations involved within the conflict.

IC: The Kingdom of Molcadara advises a mixed power structure combining elements of domestic self-rule and foreign military administration. Essentially, a Constitution shall be written that ensures the basic animal needs of the population, education, the proportional representation of the populace in a parliamentary democracy, while outlawing groups that advocate the use of illegal overthrow of the government, illegal violence against civilians, and illegal discrimination on the basis of items like race, sexuality, and religion. In the short term, however, we can expect that an elected government would be disinclined to follow these edicts, which is why a foreign garrison will be present in the country to enforce the Ord Trean constitution, and supervise the decisions of the Ord Trean Government to ensure that they are legal. Once the population is adequately rehabilitated, the garrison supervision can be discontinued.

Kaitiland wrote:IC: Kade has agreed to this, stating that the international community has been vehemently overreacting. However, Kade would like to request that if they pose a threat to the new government, that they be treated like the rest of the Kaitilanders and must obey the laws set in place. "It's the same as any nation in the history of nation, no matter where you're from, if you break the law then you will be punished."

IC: Restraining our investigators would reflect poorly on your case, now that you have permitted their presence.

Gööd Äftërnöön

Oldmanzakk, Yodle

Yodle wrote:PSA for Session VI of Parliament

Greetings Residents,

Tonight at midnight EST Session VI of Parliament will commence! There are several pieces of legislation that will be going to vote this session. The bills and their overviews are as follows:

CA-7: Minister/Judge Elections and the Removal of Presidential Appointments (http://theplacethathasnobigbanks.org/topic47.html)

Authored by [nation=short]Eastern Behrezvia[/nation]

Overview of Bill's Effects:

. Regarding Ministerial and High Judge Positions, instead of them being Presidentially-Appointed and approved via majority vote in the Parliament, this legislation would make them positions which are elected by the Residents of the region. This means that individual Residents would campaign and run for all of the appointed offices in the region currently. (Note that High Judge positions have a term of one year and Ministrial positions have a term of four months, or as long as the current administration is in power)

. Regarding Ministral and High Judge Elections, there would be a campaigning period of several weeks. If a nation in a Ministrial or Judge position is impeached, resigns prematurely, is banished, or for whatever reason is removed their position, instead of a new election, the nation who received the second highest vote count will be offered the position and so on if the offer by that nation is refused. Currently there are no provisions for if none of the candidates want the position.

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CA-8: Removal of Presidential Term Limits (http://theplacethathasnobigbanks.org/topic46.html)

Authored by [nation=short]Shangyan[/nation]

Overview of Bill's Effects:

. This legislation would remove the Term Limit of 3 terms currently placed on the Presidency.

All Residents of the region should vote in this session! If you haven't already done so, please register for Parliament and make sure to vote afterwards! Pertinent links are below:

Link for Registering as a Member of Parliament (MP): https://goo.gl/forms/BrfUjxDw2c2BbRaq2

Link for the Session VI Voting Poll: https://goo.gl/forms/c0BUqm6seWQV2xpn1

Just a reminder that the vote for this ends at midnight EST! Get your votes in!

Bernie Nation

Shangyan wrote:Furthermore, I'd say the entire idea of term limits is undemocratic, because it implies that the people are merely being deceived when they reelect someone, as opposed to being capable individuals who have recognized who best serves their interests. Competency and responsiveness to popular needs should be rewarded as long as they continue to persist, not be artificially handicapped in favor of a less representative outcome. Vote in favor of eliminating term limits.

They're an American quirk that the modern European democracies prove are unnecessary.

Molcadara wrote:The only people who benefit from term limits are less competent, less responsive candidates, who cannot hope to compete with someone whose appeal and performance meet a meritocratic ideal in service to the public, ultimately.

Alrighty you live in your oligarchical bubble. Glad to see our members of their cabinets are trying to keep themselves in power at all costs. That sounds kinda like a dictatorship.

Orchestralia wrote:Alrighty you live in your oligarchical bubble. Glad to see our members of their cabinets are trying to keep themselves in power at all costs. That sounds kinda like a dictatorship.

If a dictatorship in which the "dictator" is subject to regularly scheduled and legitimate elections in which all citizens are permitted to vote, and thereby requires popular support to maintain his or her position, along with having his or her decisions and vetoes liable to be overturned by a two-thirds majority, along with the judgments of a court of High Judges requiring Parliamentary approval acting as limits on his or her ability to make unconstitutional decisions, still qualifies as a dictatorship by your definition, then yes, this sounds exactly like a dictatorship.

United Federal Districts, Bernie Nation, Yodle

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Session VI of Parliament Results

Greetings Residents,

After the conclusion of this session, we had a moderate turnout of 18 MPs (Including Cabinet and Supreme Court Members)! CA-7 in particular was heavily debated on our Discord for its implications on the electoral system of the region. I highly encourage more people to propose legislation as [nation=short]Eastern Behrezvia[/nation] and [nation=short]Shangyan[/nation] did with their proposals, as it is a great learning experience and all ideas are welcome for debate in the Parliamentary Chamber (Discord Channel)!

CA-7: Minister/Judge Elections and the Removal of Presidential Appointments (http://theplacethathasnobigbanks.org/topic47.html)

Authored by [nation=short]Eastern Behrezvia[/nation]

Final Vote Count: 7 Yea - 8 Nay - 3 Abstain | CA-7 Fails to Pass by a One Vote Margin - 4/11/17

(Note that for CA-7, [nation=short]Jiangai[/nation] approved the counting of Cabinet and Supreme Court Member votes as it directly affects them.)

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CA-8: Removal of Presidential Term Limits (http://theplacethathasnobigbanks.org/topic46.html)

Authored by [nation=short]Shangyan[/nation]

Final Vote Count: 4 Yea - 6 Nay - 1 Abstain | CA-8 Fails to Pass by a Two Vote Margin - 4/11/17

MP votes remain confidential as current regional law and Parliament bylaws do not address such matters. Requests sent to the Parliament Minister, [nation=short]Jiangai[/nation], can be made as it is his jurisdiction whether to release the results!

Thank you,

[nation=short]Yodle[/nation] (Delegating for [nation=short]Jiangai[/nation] due to timezone conflicts.)

Minister of Domestic Affairs

-Stans, Eastern Behrezvia

Shangyan wrote:If a dictatorship in which the "dictator" is subject to regularly scheduled and legitimate elections in which all citizens are permitted to vote, and thereby requires popular support to maintain his or her position, along with having his or her decisions and vetoes liable to be overturned by a two-thirds majority, along with the judgments of a court of High Judges requiring Parliamentary approval acting as limits on his or her ability to make unconstitutional decisions, still qualifies as a dictatorship by your definition, then yes, this sounds exactly like a dictatorship.

Many countries in Africa have regularly scheduled elections, but the same guy stays in power. This person is basically a dictator. The cabinet and judges are basically all friends of the president, so the sitting president can do whatever he wants. The cabinet proposes legislation that will help keep them in power and shut anyone else who tries out. First it was the elimination of the minister of defense and now term limits taken away. Thankfully it didn't pass!

Orchestralia wrote:Many countries in Africa have regularly scheduled elections, but the same guy stays in power. This person is basically a dictator. The cabinet and judges are basically all friends of the president, so the sitting president can do whatever he wants. The cabinet proposes legislation that will help keep them in power and shut anyone else who tries out. First it was the elimination of the minister of defense and now term limits taken away. Thankfully it didn't pass!

The first difference is that our elections aren't phony. The second is that the high judges have stopped the President from doing what he wants before, and I have publicly and argumentatively disagreed with him in the past. Thirdly, the President has previously vetoed legislation I have proposed, even though it would strengthen the Presidential office. Fourthly, the the elimination of the Minister of Defense as a position was a matter of redundancy, with no bearing on Presidential authority.

And fifthly, if you had been paying attention on the Discord, you would know that the President doesn't personally want to serve more terms. This is a matter for improving the government in principle.

United Federal Districts, Bernie Nation, Yodle

Orchestralia wrote:Many countries in Africa have regularly scheduled elections, but the same guy stays in power. This person is basically a dictator. The cabinet and judges are basically all friends of the president, so the sitting president can do whatever he wants. The cabinet proposes legislation that will help keep them in power and shut anyone else who tries out. First it was the elimination of the minister of defense and now term limits taken away. Thankfully it didn't pass!

OOC: Regardless of what you think the MoD was removed because it was completely redundant, something that was affirmed by popular vote. You resigned voluntarily so stop being so bitter.

Side note but I've voted against at least two thirds of the legislation proposed by my cabinet mates.

Bernie Nation, Yodle

Orchestralia wrote:

Many countries in Africa have regularly scheduled elections, but the same guy stays in power. This person is basically a dictator. The cabinet and judges are basically all friends of the president, so the sitting president can do whatever he wants. The cabinet proposes legislation that will help keep them in power and shut anyone else who tries out. First it was the elimination of the minister of defense and now term limits taken away. Thankfully it didn't pass!

Dude calm down I personally didn't vote aye on the term limit bill but I don't go around calling everyone a dictator now do I calm down have a soda

Bernie Nation, Yodle

IC

The General Assembly of Neburian Trade Unions has decided to illegalise the Church of the Flame, founded after an ancient map with the inscription "Here be Dragons" was found in the Neburian National Archaeological Museum last month.

The founding of the new church has been seen by the representatives in the General Assembly as "an attempt by foreign foes to destabilise the country by spreading religious beliefs which clearly oppose the scientific base of the Neburian revolution".

The Assembly was especially worried after sociological studies were published proving significant acceptance among youngsters of the existence of dragons. As a result, the ruling body has decided to invest more in education, while dismissing offers from several genetic research corporations to establish programs in Neburia with the objective to create artificially designed dragons.

How this new step towards banning religion in Neburia could affect the Assembly’s relations with other countries is still unknown, but Delegate Collins declared on this issue yesterday that “the only dragons Neburia should fear of are the dragons of ignorance and counterrevolution.”

Neburia wrote:IC

The General Assembly of Neburian Trade Unions has decided to illegalise the Church of the Flame, founded after an ancient map with the inscription "Here be Dragons" was found in the Neburian National Archaeological Museum last month.

The founding of the new church has been seen by the representatives in the General Assembly as "an attempt by foreign foes to destabilise the country by spreading religious beliefs which clearly oppose the scientific base of the Neburian revolution".

The Assembly was especially worried after sociological studies were published proving significant acceptance among youngsters of the existence of dragons. As a result, the ruling body has decided to invest more in education, while dismissing offers from several genetic research corporations to establish programs in Neburia with the objective to create artificially designed dragons.

How this new step towards banning religion in Neburia could affect the Assembly’s relations with other countries is still unknown, but Delegate Collins declared on this issue yesterday that “the only dragons Neburia should fear of are the dragons of ignorance and counterrevolution.”

IC: The Prefecture of Foreign Affairs expresses hope that the official positions of the State of Neburia will not result in discrimination against Molcadaran citizens.

Neburia wrote:IC

The General Assembly of Neburian Trade Unions has decided to illegalise the Church of the Flame, founded after an ancient map with the inscription "Here be Dragons" was found in the Neburian National Archaeological Museum last month.

The founding of the new church has been seen by the representatives in the General Assembly as "an attempt by foreign foes to destabilise the country by spreading religious beliefs which clearly oppose the scientific base of the Neburian revolution".

The Assembly was especially worried after sociological studies were published proving significant acceptance among youngsters of the existence of dragons. As a result, the ruling body has decided to invest more in education, while dismissing offers from several genetic research corporations to establish programs in Neburia with the objective to create artificially designed dragons.

How this new step towards banning religion in Neburia could affect the Assembly’s relations with other countries is still unknown, but Delegate Collins declared on this issue yesterday that “the only dragons Neburia should fear of are the dragons of ignorance and counterrevolution.”

IC: The Doge of Ansuriel applaudes the policy undertaken by Neburia in order to remove superstitious beliefs in favour of scientific advancement

Neburia wrote:IC

The General Assembly of Neburian Trade Unions has decided to illegalise the Church of the Flame, founded after an ancient map with the inscription "Here be Dragons" was found in the Neburian National Archaeological Museum last month.

The founding of the new church has been seen by the representatives in the General Assembly as "an attempt by foreign foes to destabilise the country by spreading religious beliefs which clearly oppose the scientific base of the Neburian revolution".

The Assembly was especially worried after sociological studies were published proving significant acceptance among youngsters of the existence of dragons. As a result, the ruling body has decided to invest more in education, while dismissing offers from several genetic research corporations to establish programs in Neburia with the objective to create artificially designed dragons.

How this new step towards banning religion in Neburia could affect the Assembly’s relations with other countries is still unknown, but Delegate Collins declared on this issue yesterday that “the only dragons Neburia should fear of are the dragons of ignorance and counterrevolution.”

IC: The Science Directorate is pleased by this courageous act, and wishes to all neburians to prosper in this new golden age of scientific advances and social progress.

IC: Ships have been spotted sailing off the coast of Kaitiland, flying neutral colors, towards the unsettled parts of South America. The ships don't seem to hold any weapons.

Kaitiland wrote:IC: Ships have been spotted sailing off the coast of Kaitiland, flying neutral colors, towards the unsettled parts of South America. The ships don't seem to hold any weapons.

OOC: What are you up to, pal? And it's best if we don't assume the white spaces are unsettled. Simply lacking a sovereign state, for all purposes prior to selection by a nation.

Shangyan wrote:OOC: What are you up to, pal? And it's best if we don't assume the white spaces are unsettled. Simply lacking a sovereign state, for all purposes prior to selection by a nation.

OOC: People who took parts in riots and tried to start a revolution are being put on the ships, and sent away. They are probably very hungry. Also, I don't care.

Neburia wrote:IC

The General Assembly of Neburian Trade Unions has decided to illegalise the Church of the Flame, founded after an ancient map with the inscription "Here be Dragons" was found in the Neburian National Archaeological Museum last month.

The founding of the new church has been seen by the representatives in the General Assembly as "an attempt by foreign foes to destabilise the country by spreading religious beliefs which clearly oppose the scientific base of the Neburian revolution".

The Assembly was especially worried after sociological studies were published proving significant acceptance among youngsters of the existence of dragons. As a result, the ruling body has decided to invest more in education, while dismissing offers from several genetic research corporations to establish programs in Neburia with the objective to create artificially designed dragons.

How this new step towards banning religion in Neburia could affect the Assembly’s relations with other countries is still unknown, but Delegate Collins declared on this issue yesterday that “the only dragons Neburia should fear of are the dragons of ignorance and counterrevolution.”

Ic: UFD is a secular state. But we also believe the best way to spread independent thinking is by allowing a fair and honest discussion. Allow your people to practice this belief but have both sides of the argument displayed in school and allowing the students to decide their beliefs. As long as UFD citizens are safe to practice their own religions without trying to spread their beliefs to your citizens.

Just reminding everyone that there will be a session of Parliament this weekend. Please send any legislation to me, Bernie Nation or Yodle.

Also, please make sure it's correctly written, there are some guides here:

http://theplacethathasnobigbanks.org/topic48.html

http://www.princetonmodelcongress.com/delegates-write-bill/

-Stans, Yodle

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Jiangai wrote:Just reminding everyone that there will be a session of Parliament this weekend. Please send any legislation to me, Bernie Nation or Yodle.

Also, please make sure it's correctly written, there are some guides here:

http://theplacethathasnobigbanks.org/topic48.html

http://www.princetonmodelcongress.com/delegates-write-bill/

That's my proposal that has been used as an example. Is it going to be up for vote at the next session of parliament.

Yodle, Jiangai

Aye. Hello friends, you're all welcome at our bar.

Bernie Nation, Oldmanzakk, Arguin Isle

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Orchestralia wrote:That's my proposal that has been used as an example. Is it going to be up for vote at the next session of parliament.

If you want it to go to vote, telegram me any edits or changes you want for it

Molcadara wrote:IC: Restraining our investigators would reflect poorly on your case, now that you have permitted their presence.

IC: after weeks of being on the island, some of the specialists have been put in the labor camps temporarily for not obeying the laws. They will serve a shorter sentence than most others, and the rest will be sent back before further discrepancies.

Kaitiland wrote:IC: after weeks of being on the island, some of the specialists have been put in the labor camps temporarily for not obeying the laws. They will serve a shorter sentence than most others, and the rest will be sent back before further discrepancies.

IC: The Prefecture of Foreign Affairs requires no further information to make its decision. The Kingdom of Molcadara will be revoking its protection of the State of Kaitiland, and will be considering further action.

Kaitiland wrote:

IC: after weeks of being on the island, some of the specialists have been put in the labor camps temporarily for not obeying the laws. They will serve a shorter sentence than most others, and the rest will be sent back before further discrepancies.

IC: Cody begins a broadcast from his office "Recent events in Kaitiland are only futher proof that the Kade Regime is an insane and oppressive regime with a mad man at the head. The Tropican military is currently being mobilized towards Kaitiland and I welcome any nation willing to join me and mobilize as well in order to overthrow Kade. But I offer Kade if he steps down now, releases all those sent to labor camps, and allows the previous government to re-establish itself in the nation that he could save many lives that will be lost in the conflict that will arise as a result.

IC: Seeing the inevitable defeat, Kade has given the orders to his regime to kill everyone on the island. Furthermore, the ships have landed in South America.

Tsath

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