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Region: The Region That Has No Big Banks
2. opt in citizenship might be something which gets round these things
3. we are 87th largest region, but probably higher when you consider puppet farms, and the nature of the WA engagement in this region. Hence our Very High Regional power rating.
4. my point overall was if they don't wish to wait 30 days, they probably dont have the staying power or potential that would be desirable in the region
Vordoslavia, Otrama-Averilla
3. Thats why I brought up the fact we have relatively very few active members compared to our total size.
4. That was more referring to myself, and obviously I have exhibited staying power and potential thus far.
America The Greater, Vordoslavia, Otrama-Averilla
Sorry to chime in again but I find this point rather condescending and rather elitist. I am sure it is not ridiculous to say that when you are waiting for something you really are excited about, 30 days is a long time, particularly again when they don't want to use social media, which is an incredibly valid hill to fight for in 2024. Simply batting people off for not being 'good enough' for waiting that long isn't how a region should be managed.
Vordoslavia, The Kaverian, Otrama-Averilla
I cannot have discord, as you may know, so I am a good example. I also dont want to join the world assembly, allowing me to endorse Yodle.
America The Greater, Vordoslavia, Otrama-Averilla
From my personal experience of waiting 1 year and 6 months before getting active in regional politics, I don't feel like asking nations to wait 1 month is particularly long, I am just being pragmatic.
Vordoslavia, Krayo29, Otrama-Averilla
Point about discord might be a valid one, however I still think endorsing Yodle / Delegate should be a valid way to speed up citizenship
Syrasia, Vordoslavia, The Kaverian, Otrama-Averilla
Relying on anecdotal evidence to support the idea that "30 days isn't that long" just really doesn't cut it for me, I'm sorry. What may feel like a blink of an eye for you may feel like ages for someone else, particularly with players who have been on NS for some time and know what they are doing, but simply don't wish to join Discord.
To reiterate, the crux of my argument isn't necessarily about players being forced to wait (as I understand the general logic for that), but rather it is the alternative offered I have an issue with. Discord should not be a barrier to be an active citizen of an NS community. It's the equivalent of forcing someone to download Instagram to communicate about Clash of Clans (excellent pop culture reference, go me!).
America The Greater, Vordoslavia, The Kaverian, Otrama-Averilla
Thank you for putting what I was thinking into words better than I could lol
Vordoslavia, Otrama-Averilla
Its not really the equivalent of downloading Instagram to talk about Clash of Clans, because that is completely unrelated, we ask them to join our regional discord page - thats how its related. Im not asking anecdotal evidence to change your opinion Im giving my perspective, and trying to help you understand my POV
Vordoslavia, Otrama-Averilla
It is a rough equivalent. If I went to play on Clash of Clans, and was told in order to participate in a Clan I had to join a group chat on Instagram, it is essentially the same. On both platforms, anyone can join if they are either let in by an admin (in the case of IG) or have an invite link (on Discord).
I am sure when most of us joined NationStates, our first thought wasn't "oh I cannot wait to join Discord", because at the end of the day that's not why people join the site. It took me two and a half years from joining in 2016 to actually commit to downloading Discord, because from my knowledge, the platform during that period was not as safe as it is today - and even today it is not the safest social media still either.
I completely understand your point of view. People should wait in order to prove themselves. It's a trial by fire method. The issue with that is that fire burns people (how poetic of me). Making people wait an entire month, whilst perhaps common etiquette in 2018, is rare today. What you have experienced may have been acceptable at the time, but a modern NS region asking people to wait an entire month is not common anymore. Having a waiting period of 7-10 days is, to my knowledge, fairly average, especially when the % of active participants versus overall residents of NBB is on the lower end of the scale.
Vordoslavia, The Kaverian, Otrama-Averilla
who wants to taxidermy themselves
Brocklandia, Vordoslavia, Otrama-Averilla, Bellmade, Fart Bytt
Pardon me for wading headlong into a discussion that doesn't really concern me and which I'm entering mid-stream, but to me a key driver of whether people want to pursue "citizenship" (as opposed to simple "residency") is whether they see an added benefit from becoming citizens. I'd posit that an important part of encouraging people to become full citizens as an enhanced status should start with being able to articulate why citizenship would benefit them and why it provides something extra that they would value. Without a clear and strong value proposition to drive participation, "citizen status" is just a string of words.
The latter category would include me. I've done Discord, but ultimately I have only finite amounts of time, I don't want to manage time for another social media platform, and I'd rather do NationStates on NationStates, instead of doing NationStates on Discord. I find that hanging out on RMBs and NationStates is enough for me. For me, if I were to be doing NationStates on Discord, why would I need to log on to NationStates?
My two cents. Your mileage may vary. Offer void where prohibited by law.
Socialistic Britain, New United Common-Lands, Syrasia, Vordoslavia, Otrama-Averilla, Fart Bytt
Ooo!--Can we give ourselves those crazy-pants glass eyes that make us look like we're stoned on 47 hallucinogenic drugs for eternity? I'm in!
Socialistic Britain, Vordoslavia, Bean Territorry, Otrama-Averilla, Fart Bytt
This is basically my point, yeah. If it is required to join Discord for a region, why bother with NS at all. If one wants to bypass any sort of waiting period, surely a simply endo to Yodle would suffice.
Brocklandia, America The Greater, Vordoslavia, Otrama-Averilla
I completely agree
Vordoslavia, Otrama-Averilla
YES
Brocklandia, Vordoslavia, Otrama-Averilla
I dont know how it was implied I was interested in the topic but alright
Vordoslavia, Otrama-Averilla
Pluh
pluh reaction honestly
Vordoslavia, Otrama-Averilla
pluh frfr
Vordoslavia, Otrama-Averilla
https://blerp.com/search?q=pluh&r=UR
Vordoslavia, Otrama-Averilla
Given the topic being discussed, I suppose heres a question that is relevant and open ended:
What does Citizenship in NBB mean for you, personally?
Could be an answer as straightforward as the benefits themselves or as symbolic as what being a Citizen represents for you. V interested in what you guys come up with lol
Brocklandia, Vordoslavia, Otrama-Averilla
Well it has 2 personal meanings to me.
The first one is the blunt, legal meaning, as defined by the constitution of TRTHNBB: citizens are members who have met citizenship requirements and have 3 main privileges (ability to be an MP, ability to run for office, and have to incur 3 strikes to be banned except for certain circumstances).
My kind of sentimental meaning of citizenship is that its kind of a symbol that you belong, which I feel is kind of how people can feel about citizenship in the real world. If you are a citizen of a nation, that means you belong, you have an identity shared with those around you and your leadership that people simply with residency in a nation (or region, on NS) may not feel.
Brocklandia, Yodle, Vordoslavia, Otrama-Averilla
being in the region for more then 6 months in my head classifies someone as a citizien
Brocklandia, Vordoslavia, Otrama-Averilla
🧐🤓💉🪡
Vordoslavia, Otrama-Averilla
Like, if I got my arm stuck somewhere, and I couldn't move it or it hurt like hell, I would know for sure that it was broken.
It's like a cell phone, if my cell phone doesn't turn on, you know it's broken even if you can't see it
Brocklandia, Vordoslavia, Otrama-Averilla, Achrom
Citizenship is an endorsement of a nation's qualification to participate in the region's government. Being a citizen confers a great deal of power that a resident doesn't enjoy, along with no extra responsibilities. Residents are blocked from voting on any legislation, or really anything at all barring the elections every four months. Being a citizen is a stamp of approval, with a bar set by other, longer-residing, more entrenched citizens, that you're somehow more ready to take part in the region than other nations.
Brocklandia, Yodle, New United Common-Lands, Vordoslavia, Otrama-Averilla
Do you like gorgonzola?
America The Greater, Vordoslavia, Otrama-Averilla
Brocklandia, Vordoslavia
During my [sub]mumble-mumble[/sub] years, I've been part of regions where "citizen" was a formal, defined status and a requirement for being in a region (for example, the type of arrangement where first you move to a "holding" region and apply to the passworded main region, and the members or officers vote on whether to allow you to join), and I've been part of regions where no one thinks about citizenship and you just show up and immediately start jabbering away on the RMB. To me:
[list][*]Since I prefer keeping things informal, "citizen" mostly means "active region-mate"; and,
[*]"Active" can be further defined as "logs on with some frequency and participates in the life of the region via the RMB."[/list]
Yes, "frequency" and "participates"" are vague, and in my definition that's intentional, so it can accommodate regions that like serious discussion and those that are based on pure fantasy roleplay, and both people who log in every day and those who long on once a week or so. My RMB-centric definition also excludes offsite forums like Discord, but that's only because I privilege "playing NationStates on NationStates" as my mode for interacting with the other NS people.
Everybody enters into a discourse at their own level of understanding or capacity, and as long as their participation complies with a general "don't be a dick" approach to dealing with other people, all is well. Sure, some people might prefer the broader, more immersive and multi-channel approach that Discord offers, and that's fine, but I won't see that as a requirement for region participation or citizenship. And I do acknowledge that sometimes a "waiting period" as [nation=noflag]America the Greater[/nation] mentions can be useful to help ensure people are familiar with the region's lore before they can run for an official office/status. But to me, as long as people show up and contribute on the RMB, that's what makes a good "citizen"/region-mate.
Again, my two cents. Some assimilation required. Resistance is futile.
Vordoslavia, Krayo29
But if you can't see it, how do you know it doesn't turn on?
Vordoslavia
A little bone spur? You got lucky!--Those things can hurt like heck for years if they happen near a nerve.
Vordoslavia
I'm referring to the internal part
Danm
Vordoslavia
Which Godzilla movie was that monster in?
Vordoslavia
Tge chesse
Vordoslavia
What if your phone just ran out of battery? Not the best example for your point honestly.
Same with bones. They're most probably broken, but you can't be 100% sure they are. So you have to make sure by going to the medics and checking.
Same as if you went to the repair shop with your phone to make sure how badly it's broken, if broken at all.
Can't be sure till then
Vordoslavia
I am eating chocolate cake
Vordoslavia, Achrom
I suppose they use Discord to discuss certain topics that they don't want to be seen by eyes outside the region?
That is the basic reason why they have great roots in Discord?
I also can't afford to spend more time on other platforms or social networks.
Discord is usually used for real-time conversations or like in RMB?
Is the cake real?
Or is it a lie?
Vordoslavia, Otrama-Averilla
to bad i have brownies Make homemade brownies with just a few basic kitchen staples you likely have in your pantry and fridge.
Butter One stick of unsalted butter melted and then cooled.
Granulated Sugar Precisely one cup. Too much and it will be too sweet, not enough and the brownies will not be sweet enough.
Vanilla Extract Adds flavor depth.
Eggs Two large eggs.
Baking Soda
Salt
All-Purpose Flour - I prefer to bake with unbleached all-purpose flour.
Cocoa Powder I usually have Hersheys or Nestles Cocoa Powder on hand.
Dark Chocolate Chips I really like using Hersheys Dark Chocolate Chips in this recipe. They melt just the right amount. You can also use milk or semi-sweet chocolate chips. You want to use a chocolate chip that still tastes sweet.
Preheat oven to 350F. Line a 9" X 9" metal baking pan with parchment paper or aluminum foil. Melt butter on the stove-top or in the microwave in 20 second intervals. Set butter aside to slightly cool.
Whisk together melted butter, sugar and vanilla. Whisk in eggs, mixing until fully incorporated.
Tip: Be sure butter mixture is not too hot before whisking in the eggs, otherwise you risk cooking the eggs.
Add dry ingredients (baking soda, salt, cocoa powder and flour) to wet ingredients. Stir until incorporated into batter, avoid over stirring. Fold in chocolate chips to the brownie batter.
Batter will be thick. Spread batter into prepared pan and bake at 350F for 25-30 minutes. Allow brownies to cool for 30 minutes before cutting into. Enjoy!
Home » Dessert » Easy Homemade Brownies
Easy Homemade Brownies
Yodle, Vordoslavia, Krayo29, Otrama-Averilla
[quote=bean_territorry;55610316]to bad i have brownies Make homemade brownies with just a few basic kitchen staples you likely have in your pantry and fridge.
Butter One stick of unsalted butter melted and then cooled.
Granulated Sugar Precisely one cup. Too much and it will be too sweet, not enough and the brownies will not be sweet enough.
Vanilla Extract Adds flavor depth.
Eggs Two large eggs.
Baking Soda
Salt
All-Purpose Flour - I prefer to bake with unbleached all-purpose flour.
Cocoa Powder I usually have Hersheys or Nestles Cocoa Powder on hand.
Dark Chocolate Chips I really like using Hersheys Dark Chocolate Chips in this recipe. They melt just the right amount. You can also use milk or semi-sweet chocolate chips. You want to use a chocolate chip that still tastes sweet.
Preheat oven to 350F. Line a 9" X 9" metal baking pan with parchment paper or aluminum foil. Melt butter on the stove-top or in the microwave in 20 second intervals. Set butter aside to slightly cool.
Whisk together melted butter, sugar and vanilla. Whisk in eggs, mixing until fully incorporated.
Tip: Be sure butter mixture is not too hot before whisking in the eggs, otherwise you risk cooking the eggs.
Add dry ingredients (baking soda, salt, cocoa powder and flour) to wet ingredients. Stir until incorporated into batter, avoid over stirring. Fold in chocolate chips to the brownie batter.
Batter will be thick. Spread batter into prepared pan and bake at 350F for 25-30 minutes. Allow brownies to cool for 30 minutes before cutting into. Enjoy!
Home » Dessert » Easy Homemade Brownies
Easy Homemade Brownies
Easy homemade dark chocolate brownies made with butter, cocoa powder and dark chocolate chips.
pan of cooked homemade dark chocolate brownies
After discovering my sons food allergy a few years ago, I really dove into baking. I tried many recipes to come up with the best-of this or that treat, but it took a while to get that perfect brownie recipe down.
I wanted something as easy as a box mix, with a consistent turnout, the perfect chocolate flavor, and not too gooey but not cake like either. If I had to compare these to a box mix, I would say they are similar to Ghiradellis Dark Chocolate Brownie Mix. [quote=bean_territorry;55610316]
Vordoslavia, Otrama-Averilla
I love it thanks. A little vanilla ice cream will go great
Vordoslavia
Our informal debate period has ended! Our voting session for this week will begin whenever ATG is ready. This is the final voting session before the election, so make it count!
America The Greater, Vordoslavia
Members of Parliament,
It's time for our Voting Session! We've got a lot of bills to vote on, but The Kaverian has worked to facilitate debate and also post about the debate on the RMB, so hopefully you've got plenty of information going into this Session. Without further ado, let's begin- cast your vote here: https://forms.gle/xUbXgW5UULtnvBHM7
Thanks,
Speaker of Parliament
Vordoslavia, The Kaverian
First post of the day: Please don't rig the elections EC... PLEEASSEEE!!![/I]
(I'm joking... but seriously, don't rig it)
Vordoslavia
Second post of the day: I will go for a bit
Vordoslavia
where do i do the interview for the people running for office and pls vote me!!!
Vordoslavia
My geninue recommendation would be vote against Article I. The Citizenship time reduction from 30 days to 20 days doesn't address concerns about the Discord and WA Nation requirements - which there certainly seems to have been much interest in changing. Feels like it would be better to have a conversation on regional Citizenship and ongoing process of this.
Vordoslavia
Can't wait to strike someone for stealing someone else's header
TRTHNBB becomes Capitalist Deep State
Vordoslavia
THIS JUST IN!!!
TRTHNBB becomes Capitalist Deep State!
New United Common-Lands, Achrom
I am not going insane promise
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=2502062
Vordoslavia
I JUST GOT A CAPITAL CITY, but where do I go to edit the name of the city?
Vordoslavia
Members of the region may not utilize the artistic work of *****another member***** without their consent.
New United Common-Lands, Vordoslavia, Krayo29
I'm just memeing, [sub]whilst I still can[/sub]
TK bans the ART
https://imgur.com/HsuVxgO
Sicario Mercenary Corps, Vordoslavia
Lmao
Sicario Mercenary Corps, Vordoslavia
I didn't ask to use your flag and used fraudulent information in the meme. Uhh oh.
better call saul, [sub]ring ring, ring... Sicario Mercenary Corps[/sub]
Sicario Mercenary Corps, Vordoslavia
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Nah Im fine with it (see, isnt that easy)
New United Common-Lands, Vordoslavia
settings, answer issue and say anything but no capital
Vordoslavia, The Orangutan Nation
Fish role-playing by Bean?
Vordoslavia
Ima leave as I want no big banks
Vordoslavia
The Great Meme Court Case - Fails
Vordoslavia
Anyway, noone asked this for a long while...
How are you all doing? Faring well?
Vordoslavia
Well in the law I essentially left it up to Yodle what is considered wrongful use of works, sooooooo
New United Common-Lands, Vordoslavia
My rank display looks weird now and takes up the whole screen.
Vordoslavia
I am faring well even though I mis-read your post
Yodle, Vordoslavia
Lowkey might try this lol
Vordoslavia
didn't you get banned from parliament
Vordoslavia
Check out TSP for recipes as well they have alot
Vordoslavia
"I fart in your general direction."
- French taunter, Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Brocklandia, New United Common-Lands, Vordoslavia, Krayo29
No, hes still in parliament
Vordoslavia
what did he get banned from again?
Vordoslavia
being an rp admin
Vordoslavia
ohh ok
Vordoslavia
please remember to send me, or soon the new Speaker, a telegram once you apply to join Parliament, otherwise I'll never know
Yodle, Vordoslavia, Mjau, Western Arba Fir
he got removed from office by executive order, but he wasn't banned from office
Vordoslavia
trying to slowly earn that right back
praying the next PM is better ong 🙏
I wouldn't know hehehaw
I misread too lol
excuse you
The slander is real
let me cook mods 🗣🔥
Check the forum
War started
Government will now arrest you
Glory to Lenin
Krayo29
I wasn't done RP'ing my stuff
I just got home from school
chill out
Maen
Pyhdon, 20,000,000+ troops is godmodding, try again little bro
I am now officially a socialist country!🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
Brocklandia, America The Greater, Scooteristan, Vordoslavia, Krayo29, Mjau, Western Arba Fir
I also just got home from school
Was late for guitar lessons
Now super tired
Ahhhh
America The Greater, Vordoslavia
I am now going to work on my presentation gtg byeeee see yall in like 1 hours or 30 mins byyeeeeeeeee
Brocklandia, America The Greater, Vordoslavia, Krayo29, Western Arba Fir
Ok Im back
My friends left the call
lol Im back wayyy earlier than I said I would lol
America The Greater, Vordoslavia, Mjau
Is he still stuffed in a glass box somewhere? You should scrape off the mold and trot him out for the adoration of the masses again. That's not at all creepy, is it?
Vordoslavia
Congratulations. Will you be hosting one of those socialist parties I keep hearing about? I hope it has snacks and a good DJ.
Or cloning. Don't underestimate the ability of a couple of good clone-farms to fill up stadiums or army barracks quickly. Plus, they all wear the same size, so outfitting them is a breeze.
Vordoslavia
Hey Vordo look at the RP forum I have a message for you.
Vordoslavia
Possibly but I dont know how to do these things on the side that give a summary, and the photo of the flag/emblem/whatever
Brocklandia, Vordoslavia
School is almost over its almost over. keep telling myself that.
Vordoslavia
Yeah the rank section looks even weirder. Theres sections that display this background and include the ranks that were lost in the hardware failure.
Vordoslavia
I should do that, but I dont.
Vordoslavia
On Saturday, I played Splatoon 3, and raged a little hard, but somehow got top half on the tower control challenge, probably because its dominated by the highly ranked players.
Vordoslavia
Hey
Why dont we make a forum
Of all of the RP things
I want to do sports and trade
Not just war y know
Vordoslavia, Krayo29
Why does litterally like no one post on the forum
Vordoslavia
What happened I keep on forgetting to log in
Vordoslavia, Maen
See the forum.. I have a message higher up from my first message lol
Vordoslavia
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