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Region: The Region That Has No Big Banks
Yes
How does a trial work here? Is it plaid out live or do we only see the final decision?
Yodle
This is the doc for the first trial back in December: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M9XQktHbzEWc1xIcR5G_ikdpYU4cH9altzPtaPnpAPM/edit
America The Greater
Britain and achrom said that they agreed
So it's official, I declare the end of the empire of Vordoslavia, and the end of the Hamburg conference
Socialistic Britain
I know but im confused if we get to see events in real time or just the final document?
Yodle
idk I wasn't here during the first case
I released a Court Announcement on Discord, but I will translate it over here into BBCode since it was an official vote!
The whole process is sort of a figure-it-out as we go and it evolves. In our first case, it was a few hour text discussion in the #regional-court channel, but we'll be working with the participants to figure out how they want to conduct it this time
America The Greater, Socialistic Britain
Regional Court Announcement
5/4/2024 | 4/5/2024
The Court has finalized a unanimous decision to accept the Plaintiff's Revised Petition.
After a brief deliberation, all Justices have agreed to accept WAF's Revised Petition for the following reasons:
1) The Plaintiff did not have an assigned legal counsel at the time that they requested for the Court to hear their contest on their Third CoC Strike. For reasons grounded on a principle of fairness and good faith intent from the Court, we have to ensure that all parties are able to utilize their guaranteed access to legal resources prior to the finalization of any complaint to the Court.
2) Arbitrarily declining the Plaintiff the opportunity to contest different CoC Strikes during the beginning of this Case would be an exercise in unnecessary bureaucratic delaying. In this case, we have not identified any legal basis for such an action and thus will accept the revision with no modifications.
3) It is in the spirit of the Judicial Code of Conduct to be as fair as possible in decision-making, as well as acting in Good Faith, so this decision is a natural one and is consistent with established Court values.
Below, we will be publishing the accepted Revised Petition from the Plaintiff. This action will enter in the Court's records and officially end the 24-Hour Deliberation Period and commence the Three-Day Preparation Period so that both parties can start officially working on their arguments, collecting evidence, and gathering relevant testimonies.
The Plaintiff's Revised Petition contests their 1st & 2nd CoC Strikes and drops a contest on their 3rd CoC Strike. It reads as follows:
>>>> Plaintiff's Revised Petition to the Court <<<<
Justices of the Court,
After telegramming with Vordoslavia, it is their wish to revise their initial petition to instead contest their 1st & 2nd CoC Strikes. Within the 24-Hour Revision Period granted, he has reconsidered his legal strategy and asked the Court to consider this request. The Plaintiff is challenging his 1st CoC Strike on the grounds that it was not a transphobic action when he suppressed the post in question, shown by his response to NUCL on the RMB on page 8,978 expressing that his intentions were not transphobic, also saying that he suppress it because many people are not happy with the decision that it was on Easter. He acknowledges the community effect of that perception.
The Plaintiff is challenging his 2nd CoC Strike on the grounds that the government failed to follow the Court’s precedence set in Case #1: The Martian Democracy v. TRTHNBB. In the court’s “Reasonable Interpretation” test, it is stated that properly issued CoC Strikes are “... requiring a consensus of at least two members of the Administration before the official issuing a strike (with both signing off on it) …”, which did not happen since America the Greater was the only moderator who signed off on the strike before it was issued, as shown in the CoC Log. This error in procedure goes against court precedence and should be grounds for reversing the strike.
PlaintiffÂ’s Counsel
Final Arguments & Collection of Evidence must be submitted by 11:59 pm EST on May 7th, 2024
Collecting all evidence and testimony into one Google Doc for Judicial Review is highly recommended. We will be assigning each piece of evidence a unique identifier that can be referenced later on in the Trial process. You may choose to share this document with the Justices at any point prior to the deadline to receive the unique identifiers before the 24-Hour Evidence Review Period. Either party in this case may submit challenges prior to this period, which will be made possible by a Court controlled Evidence Google Doc that will contain the Unique Identifiers and content of the evidence. Challenges will be heard on May 8.
America The Greater, Socialistic Britain, Western Arba Fir
Sure, I appreciate your help.
America The Greater, Puttt
Hello, I'm new to this whole country thing in general, so what do I do?
Socialistic Britain, Flomonga, Mjau, Western Arba Fir
Join the WA and endorse Yodle
Yodle, America The Greater, Puttt, Mjau
facts
America The Greater, Puttt
No problem! ATG and I can help!
America The Greater, Puttt
Welcome to the region! Let us know if you have any other questions.
America The Greater, Puttt
Answer issues as they appear to shape your country and if you would like you can take part in regional activities.
Goodbye
I will not see you for a week
America The Greater, Socialistic Britain, Mjau, Western Arba Fir
YAY!
jk
bye maen we'll miss you <3
Puttt, Maen
Seeing a large amount of people unaware of what Summerfest was in the poll so here's a little breakdown for everyone:
Summerfest was a massive series of events that took place back-to-back throughout the majority of summer, it included game nights, trivia nights, debates, chess, drawing competitions, daily polls, and even DnD. It was super fun and people from all over came to the events so I'm really excited for the next one! :)
America The Greater, Socialistic Britain, New United Common-Lands, Greater Drussi, Puttt, Krayo29, Western Arba Fir, Fairy
what if we all meet up irl and have a big bromantical kiss
Brocklandia, Socialistic Britain, New United Common-Lands
pine making the cursed post dispatch great again
Brocklandia, America The Greater, Socialistic Britain
has britain even been updating it
Socialistic Britain, New United Common-Lands
Do the kisses have to be "bromantical"? Do we really need a socially excusable reason before we unleash a whole bunch of smoochies on the world?
Socialistic Britain
i'll kiss you romantically
Brocklandia, Socialistic Britain
You silver tongued sweet-talker, you. But I'm holding out for a ring--finger, nose, nipple, or other, you decide.
Socialistic Britain
Im going to write my WA proposal this week so if anyone besides Puttt wants to help or sponsor it please lmk. I would like if anyone with experience dealing with proper format could check it before it gets sent.
America The Greater, Puttt
America The Greater, Socialistic Britain, Puttt, Western Arba Fir
And I too
America The Greater, Krayo29
I did and from the small poll It was in favor 5-1. I was referring to the proper document format.
Socialistic Britain, New United Common-Lands
Trade fair next Saturday!
America The Greater, Socialistic Britain, Western Arba Fir
If the Defendership Accords revision passes imma make a BLF dispatch today
America The Greater, Socialistic Britain, Western Arba Fir
Shawty got low
Currently the rmb is at around the same speed we were almost 2 years ago around page 1000
Then it took us 30 days to cross 158 pages
Now it takes us 31 days to cross 158 pages
At peak activity at around page 2,000, it took us 4 days to go from page 2000 to 2158
What now takes us 31 days, took us 4 days
Socialistic Britain, New United Common-Lands, Western Arba Fir
So about a month
Need to yap some more, also we did move RP off to the forum
Socialistic Britain
True
Definitely plays in it slightly
New United Common-Lands
If it wasnÂ’t moved we would have an extra 17 pages
Rp doesnÂ’t take place on the RMB anymore. That could be a contributing factor
Socialistic Britain
Also prolly new nations donÂ’t see the rp immediately cause they gotta go to the forum to find it
Socialistic Britain, Lemona
I mean we argue over it a lot on the rmb so
Members of Parliament,
Our Voting Session has concluded. It was a big one, but we got a pretty good turnout and passed a lot of important bills - we've clarified the election process, lowered the citizenship requirement, modified our foreign policy, and ratified an official anthem, among other things. Here's a full list of results:
[spoiler=Results]
[list]
[*]The Amendment to Article I, authored by The Kaverian, has passed with a vote of 12 For - 5 Against - 1 Abstain
[*]The Amendment to Article IV, authored by The Kaverian, has passed with a vote of 14 For - 3 Against - 1 Abstain
[*]The Amendment to Article IX, authored by Western Arba Fir, has passed with a vote of 17 For - 1 Against - 0 Abstain
[*]The Amendment to Article IX of the Constitution, authored by New United Common-Lands, has passed with a vote of 16 For - 2 Against - 0 Abstain
[*]The Amendment to the Census Act, authored by The Kaverian, has passed with a vote of 14 For - 2 Against - 2 Abstain
[*]The Amendment to the Code of Conduct, authored by The Kaverian, has passed with a vote of 11 For - 4 Against - 3 Abstain
[*]The Amendment to the Honorary Titles Act - Historical Significance Addendum, authored by America The Greater, has passed with a vote of 17 For - 1 Against - 0 Abstain
[*]The Ratification of the TRTHNBB Anthem, authored by Gine Caruttiva, has passed with a vote of 12 For - 2 Against - 4 Abstain
[*]The The Defendership Accords (Revision Proposed on 12th April 2024), authored by New United Common-Lands, has passed with a vote of 15 For - 0 Against - 3 Abstain
[/spoiler]
In just a moment, I'll have the Book of Laws and Constitution updated to reflect our new laws.
And with that, I've officially concluded my last Voting Session as Speaker of Parliament! I want to briefly say thank you to everyone who's written a piece of legislation, debated with us, or even just voted in a Session. I've genuinely had a great time as Speaker for these past few months, and it's been amazing to see Parliament develop from a small, inactive, representative system to one of the most active parts of the regional government. It's been a privilege to oversee the opening of Parliament to a massive number of new citizens, and to have been the first to work with some truly talented people who have since joined our regional government. I know that no matter who wins the election, I'm leaving the position in good hands.
Thanks for reading,
Speaker of Parliament,
Signing off!
Socialistic Britain, New United Common-Lands, Western Arba Fir
Thank you ATG, for the superb administration of Parliament over the past few months allowing us to become wholly efficient and witness direct democracy in action. Excellent work!
America The Greater, Socialistic Britain
We've actually hit the dispatch character limit lol. I'm going to have to split up our Book of Laws now.. good work everyone!!
Socialistic Britain
I was too good back then
Socialistic Britain
Ok washfed keep on yapping
America The Greater, Socialistic Britain
ATG was the greatest Speaker in our region's history and will always be
Socialistic Britain
Dear all,
We wish to inform you that we recently reached out to The Washington Federation with our concerns regarding the recently passed Code of Conduct bill, we are thankful TWF has agreed with some of our points, promptly the justified use of the Veto. Therefore we ask you to uphold the veto on this legislation - if you are unsure why, please do take the time to read the below points.
Whilst, The Common Way Party recognises the need for reform of the Code of Conduct Bill, and we appreciate The Kaverian's contributions, we believe it's important to have a collaborative cross party, and regional discussion to develop a long-term, sustainable solution that minimises the need for future reforms.
Firstly, this legislation lacks the full support of the current moderators, who are responsible for enforcing strikes and warnings. With Sicario Mercenary Corps, Lkandria, and New United Common-lands voting against, and The Washington Federation abstaining. It raises questions about the effective enforcement of rules when there's disagreement amongst moderators. Perhaps this bill should have been discussed in the Ministry of Defense committee beforehand to gather their input. While we acknowledge that MoD colleagues are in Parliament, we believe their specific consultation would have been beneficial.
Secondly, we are effectively implementing a copyright law, with little consideration on how this will work in practice. What type of headers will be included in the protections? i.e if someone makes a basic header and it looks similar to someone elseÂ’s header, one nation could claim this is copying - when in reality this is unclear. This begs the question, do we want our Regional Court to use its time policing copyright claims of nations, when currently we have some delays hearing current cases - this could further divert its attention.
Thirdly, we already have a number of concerns being discussed regarding the Code of Conduct therefore this could be better brought together under one reform bill. Concerns as follows;
- The Kaverians aforementioned bill, and their separate concerns regarding abuse of power.
- Concerns regarding bigotry and transphobia, which have been brought forward by Gine Caruttiva (with their proposal of a Zero Tolerance bill) and New United Common-lands previously raised this in response to the abuse of power strike by Vordoslavia.
- Transparency issues, as raised by Lemona, recognising the need for notification of strikes on the RMB.
Maybe you agree with The Kaverians' points, which is also a perfectly acceptable position, however wouldnÂ’t it be better now to get everyone together to develop a sustainable solution which starts to address these concerns?
Our suggested way forward is as follows - Uphold the Veto, and call for the establishment of a temporary Code of Conduct Revision committee to facilitate inclusive discussions, similar to the process followed when developing our regional constitution.
We hope this has been helpful, and if you have any questions feel free to reach out.
Signed
America The Greater, Socialistic Britain, Lkandria, Western Arba Fir
If you ever want to scare your friends, find out something very small that they did, and tell them you saw someone do the same thing, then at the end of the sentence you say
"well they got arrested after that but it was pretty cool"
Veto of the “Amendment to the Code of Conduct”
I, The Washington Federation, Prime Minister of The Region That Has No Big Banks,
REMINDING the parliament that The KaverianÂ’s proposed amendment to the Regional Code of Conduct reads as follows:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=2017062
“Understanding the Code of Conduct needs to be updated.
Seeing as there is no regulation on defaming statements and non-consensual use of oneÂ’s works
Hereby amends the Code of Conduct Section I to add the following rule:
‘No defamation: Members of the region may not defame each other using fraudulent information to harm another’s reputation.
No wrongful use of works: Members of the region may not utilize the artistic work of another member without their consent. This includes detailed headers and formats, texts, pieces of art, or any other work the court finds to fall under this’”...
CONTEXTUALIZING that the Regional Code of Conduct had been conceived as, and is at its core, an essential guideline used by the Ministry of Defense and other moderation staff to police the regionÂ’s message boardÂ
EXPRESSING that libel and infringing on other works, though reprehensible, are not considered necessary to address in whatÂ’s meant to be a comprehensive guideline for how people are to generally behave as residents, not as politicians as an addition of the libel rule would suggestÂ
RECOGNIZING that the “no wrongful use of works” clause, though thoughtful, could mitigate the creative liberty that citizens enjoy and may potentially set a dangerous precedent by way of copyright law if not addressedÂ
REALIZING that the bill, though amended, was proposed without consultation with the moderation staff and the Ministry of Defense, who hold responsibility in this field, and thus would be expected to take up this extra burdenÂ
ADDITIONALLY indicating that, according to the voting logs available to parliament, the Ministry of Defense would show their disdain toward the bill, with the incumbent minister, their incumbent deputy, and the ministerÂ’s expected successor all voting in opposition of its implementation as a piece of legislation due to the previous concerns listedÂ
Hereby declare a veto against “Amendment to the Code of Conduct” by The Kaverian; with this perspective in mind, MP’s will be given an opportunity momentarily to either uphold this veto or form a two-thirds (66%) majority to overturn the veto, passing the bill regardless. America The Greater, as Speaker of Parliament, will provide further instructions soon.
Kind regards,
Prime Minister
(As sent to the MPs via TG)
Yodle, America The Greater, Socialistic Britain, New United Common-Lands, Lemona, Krayo29, Western Arba Fir
Members of Parliament,
Apparently I'm not done yet! The Washington Federation has vetoed The Kaverian's Amendment to the Code of Conduct, and now we need to vote on whether that veto is overturned or upheld. Without further ado, it's time to vote!
https://forms.gle/hc71x2qC4YwcuPnU6
Speaker of Parliament
Socialistic Britain, Western Arba Fir
So it appears that, once again (this time with it getting for more than the required supermajority) a bill I have has been vetoed. I donÂ’t have much to say to make my position clear. I donÂ’t see why we shouldnÂ’t pass it still, this bill had more than the required supermajority and can most certainly make that again. I believe these two offenses are important, and are necessary for the protection of the general welfare, and I donÂ’t see why we should be forced to wait weeks to see development made in a mass bill when we could start the change right now.
Sure, the CoC needs a lot more change than this, but striking this bill down may give off the idea that the CoC doesnÂ’t need change. The fact this bill doesnÂ’t have full support from moderators doesnÂ’t matter, the voice of the parliament is the will of the people, and the will of the people will prevail in this case either way it goes, so donÂ’t let any regional government members pressure you to vote one way or another.
I know you all (parliament) are not just a bunch of mindless voters obviously, so vote where your heart takes you (with or against the bill).
I always wholeheartedly support my bills until they “die”, so my words are obviously swayed by that. Vote what you think is right.
America The Greater, Socialistic Britain, New United Common-Lands, Western Arba Fir
Also if it is upheld itÂ’ll make it a lot easier for me to maintain my vetoed bills record lmao :P
Socialistic Britain, New United Common-Lands, Western Arba Fir, United States Of Alpha
I saw next Saturday we were going to play territorial.io. I love playing it but IÂ’m kinda average at it.
Western Arba Fir
Alright everyone, the Book of Laws has been officially decentralized so as to avoid the character limit - check it out here so you can view my changes (and harshly criticize them if you want)
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=2014739
Socialistic Britain, Western Arba Fir
At least you wonÂ’t have to deal with it next trimester lmao
America The Greater, Western Arba Fir
so true - you or Orangutan will carry on my good work
I hope for TK
Nothing has been worthy enough
But this.. this might suffice
I need some cities to build a rail line
here is the route, can you give me all the cities I don't have already pls
https://i.ibb.co/j4SWMbh/Screenshot-2024-05-05-at-18-10-31.png
You want alll those citys?
Like, for a railway?
Could you update so we can continue our plan?
yes, and for future dev
only until someone claims the city
I will gib them it then
I dont think thats a fair reason to take all those citys
I will at least build a station there
It will also aid my development into the Caucasses
and Russia
Hello TRTHNBB! I am the new Minister of Foreign Affairs for the Democratic Socialist Assembly, I look forward to continuing our good relations.
America The Greater, Socialistic Britain, New United Common-Lands, The Washington Federation, Western Arba Fir
Hello Dekks, welcome to the RMB!
https://www.nationstates.net/page=map_version/mvid=33767
Thw quality just evaporated
https://www.nationstates.net/page=map/mid=8100
There are some errors, creating maps in ns is horrible
What wars are going on in rp right now?
Here is a concept to work on until sb gets back.
(all updates are updates recognised by Pyhdon)
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=2504891
None
Western Arba Fir
Is the Tennessean Empire still active?
Tennessean Empire
yh
not in rp but yh
I will go invade him wid u if u like
Tennessean Empire
No I don't want to. Quick question if someone cte what happens to that person's land?
Tennessean Empire
ded
It dissipates
My blockade of the Strait of Gibraltar consists of 62 ships
There is two lines of ships which cross the strait
The strait is around 3 miles long
My ships are around 150 feet long
31 across
Double that
62
How does one qualify to be on the map? Would I make my own? or is it something else?
Western Arba Fir
talk to Socialistic Britain
Western Arba Fir
man this map is SCUFFED
im not even on there
lawid is dead again :(
Oof
wait, what dyhave
I have Afghanistan, Nepal and butan also
Put Afghanistan in a gray, they are my Protectorate
Nova-Afghania
*Pinevilla
*Claibornia
Btw, I gave you a CHONK
you aint the cartographer
Socialistic Britain
the cartographer ran out of tea
so he cannot cartograph
so me and NU are stepping in
Nah
Socialistic Britain, Puttt
Actually
I just put the map of britain in the map thing
I don't plan on taking his place
*Nova-Afghania
*Tea for days
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_kaverian/detail=factbook/id=2504938
IÂ’m proud of myself lmao, I finally have some info lmao. I will come up with a constitution for it soon (maybe).
America The Greater
https://ibb.co/pxSBGZB
A better version
Oh and btw
I got OMM
Bye
See you until next week and how do you change your acc name in OMM
BYE
you gave me the idea to add political parties to my factbook so heres the updated version:
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=claibornia/detail=factbook/id=1875570
America The Greater
*Pinevilla
thats the correct name
may do a little election thing with these parties with like a google form
could be interesting
Western Arba Fir
Assembled with Dot's Region Saver.
Written by Refuge Isle.