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Ansuriel wrote:IC: With 200 votes in favour, 158 against and 136 abstentions, the military intervention against Ord Trea has passed by simple majority.

However, due to the fact that a strong approvation with at least 50% +1 of the votes has not been reached, the state of war will not be declared. Thus, only 10% of the Military Force will be mobilized and there will be no increase of military industrial production. A task force, similar to the one formed during the conflict in the Middle East but bigger, will join the international effort against the terrorist organization LRA and the rogue State of Ord Trea.

Two aircraft carriers, 12 destroyers and one light aircraft carrier will be dispatched along with 40.000 soldiers and mechanized vehicles. The expedition will land on the neutral territories of the Gulf of California, establish an outpost and then proceed towards the southern territories of Ord Trea.

Oldmanian forces once arrived will join Ansurelian army through the neutral territories at the south border. Oldmanian fleet and air fighters will support all internetional forces involved in the scenario.

IC: Cody prepares a speech, "83 people. That was the civilian casualties at Larsa Transport Station many shot and many crushed. But what for why did these innocent people die. Because the LRA believes the only way to spread their believes is though killing. Why did we not destroy the LRA quickly because Ord Trea won't let us. They let the LRA live and declare neutrality as if this was a nation vs nation war in doing this they allow a terrorist group to survive and commit more atrocities. Today that changes the standing point of Ord Trea is unacceptable in my eyes as it keeps a group that killed so many innocent people alive as the group has yet posed a treat to them as a nation. They refuse to help capture those behind the act and refuse to open the borders to us to end the group ourselves with the nation of Ansuriel and Cantabria entering a state of war against Ord Trea Tropico shall follow and declare war on the nation of Ord Trea and send 90% of Tropico's Military to fight against Ord Trea. We will attack though the south of the nation and join our allies attacking there as well."

IC: The LRA has accepted this challenge, stating that God is on their side, and that the invaders will be victim to eternal damnation.

IC: The Kingdom of Molcadara would like to inform the New California Republic that the Molcadaran Military will be sending troops through their territory shortly. Molcadara declares war on Ord Trea, citing their diplomatic intractability, active collaboration with terrorist groups, and support for aggression against the Kingdom of Molcadara and its allies.

Molcadara wrote:IC: The Kingdom of Molcadara would like to inform the New California Republic that the Molcadaran Military will be sending troops through their territory shortly. Molcadara declares war on Ord Trea, citing their diplomatic intractability, active collaboration with terrorist groups, and support for aggression against the Kingdom of Molcadara and its allies.

OOC: Bernie Nation

Ord Trea wrote:IC: The LRA has stated that the NCR is now a target for attack.
Molcadara wrote:IC: The Kingdom of Molcadara would like to inform the New California Republic that the Molcadaran Military will be sending troops through their territory shortly. Molcadara declares war on Ord Trea, citing their diplomatic intractability, active collaboration with terrorist groups, and support for aggression against the Kingdom of Molcadara and its allies.

IC: An army have been mobilized to Ord Trea's, consisting of 150k ground troops and air support. The Molcardaran Military is cleared for entry. The Parliament is currently holding a vote to determine the NCR's role in this conflict.

IC: The government of Jiangai wholly support the actions of Molcadara and Bernie Nation, and are ready to support their efforts in quashing the LRA.

IC: The Head Ambassador of Tropico offers a free trade agreement with Caocuratia

Jiangai wrote:IC: The government of Jiangai wholly support the actions of Molcadara and Bernie Nation, and are ready to support their efforts in quashing the LRA.

IC: The Kingdom of Molcadara appreciates the support of the Republic of Jiangai, and would like to request permission to lease land on the coast of Hainan for a military base, in exchange for the payment of rent and military protection against external threats.

IC: The Caocuratian Parliament accepts The Head Ambassador of New West Tropico's free trade agreement.

IC: Head of State Strubing declared War on the LRA and all forms of extremism. Strategic bombing of LRA infrastructure has immediately commenced. While mostly successful, intelligence reports failed to report how well dug in the enemy is. 2 bombers were shot down with 10 crewmembers MIA.

United Federal Districts wrote:IC: Head of State Strubing declared War on the LRA and all forms of extremism. Strategic bombing of LRA infrastructure has immediately commenced. While mostly successful, intelligence reports failed to report how well dug in the enemy is. 2 bombers were shot down with 10 crewmembers MIA.

OOC: I would like to remind you that we're not allowed to dictate casualties to our enemies. Also, are you ever going to reply to my proposal?

OOC: I was only stating my casualties. I'm still considering the other proposal because I want to see how you stand overall on foreign policy issues. Time will tell😜

IC: After much discussion, Parliament has decided to declare war on Ord Trea! Another 100k troops have been sent to border. The military has decided to hold position until the army of Molcadara makes its way through the NCR countryside.

United Federal Districts wrote:OOC: I was only stating my casualties. I'm still considering the other proposal because I want to see how you stand overall on foreign policy issues. Time will tell😜

OOC: Casualties include infrastructure damage in uncontrolled territories. By the way, you should really quote or mention Ord Trea, or anyone, really, in a post that is relevant to them.

OOC: ok I'll take that advice and then who decides casualties?https://www.nationstates.net/nation=molcadara

I am officially leaving NationStates. This region has been wonderful and I would like to say a hearty thank you to TRTHNBB. Regarding the map, you can take all my land away, except Saint Petersburg. I want there to be something that reminds everyone of me. :-)

See ya

United Federal Districts, Bernie Nation, Oldmanzakk, Ursus Island, Primera Republica De Cantabria, Ownzone, Sarrepont, New West Tropico, Jiangai, Eastern Behrezvia

The Socialist Republic Of Russia wrote:I am officially leaving NationStates. This region has been wonderful and I would like to say a hearty thank you to TRTHNBB. Regarding the map, you can take all my land away, except Saint Petersburg. I want there to be something that reminds everyone of me. :-)

See ya

Later my dood

Ownzone

The Socialist Republic Of Russia wrote:I am officially leaving NationStates. This region has been wonderful and I would like to say a hearty thank you to TRTHNBB. Regarding the map, you can take all my land away, except Saint Petersburg. I want there to be something that reminds everyone of me. :-)

See ya

We'll miss you, bud. If you ever want to come back, please know you're forever welcomed.

United Federal Districts, Oldmanzakk, Ansuriel, -Stans, Yodle, Ownzone

Kaitiland has decided to send 10k troops to assist AINSS with the conflict. Kade Armondez has presented a bill asking to have control over the military, stating that it would be easier and faster to get troops on the ground without the unnecessary bureaucracy.

United Federal Districts wrote:OOC: ok I'll take that advice and then who decides casualties?https://www.nationstates.net/nation=molcadara

OOC: As a general rule, casualties are inextricably linked to how the enemy force responds to your strategies, and so casualties, both human and material, fall under the national sovereignty of each player. Do make them realistic and try to avoid disputes, but if they arise, take them to the roleplay-planning channel on the Discord for resolution. Oh, and use the [nation][/nation] command for mentioning, with the nation's name being between the ][. Like such: [nation]United Federal Districts[/nation]. If you quote my post, you will be able to see how I quoted you in your own text box.

Bernie Nation wrote:IC: After much discussion, Parliament has decided to declare war on Ord Trea! Another 100k troops have been sent to border. The military has decided to hold position until the army of Molcadara makes its way through the NCR countryside.

IC: The Military of Molcadara swiftly moved through the territory of the New California Republic, with a force of two field armies; the Molcadaran soldiers were both cheerful and polite to the Californian soldiers they encountered at the border with [nation=short]Ord Trea[/nation], following the declaration of war against the LRA's patron. The Kingdom of Molcadara began its campaign by utilizing stealth bombers and long-range modern artillery to bombard the air fields and anti-air weapons of its enemy, with the aim of securing uncontested air superiority from the beginning in order to minimize its own casualties from conventional warfare. At the same time as its attacks would be preoccupying or destroying the air-based military assets of its enemy, the Military of Molcadara would send, with air support, tanks and other military vehicles, including mechanized infantry and modern artillery, in an effort to swiftly seize control of strategic military bases in Ord Trea in order to act as bases for their own efforts to occupy the nation, along with securing their supply chain.

Molcadara wrote:IC: The Kingdom of Molcadara appreciates the support of the Republic of Jiangai, and would like to request permission to lease land on the coast of Hainan for a military base, in exchange for the payment of rent and military protection against external threats.

Secretary of Defence Hu Shan accepts this request, and hopes this can be the beginning of deeper cooperation with Molcadara.

Molcadara wrote:OOC: As a general rule, casualties are inextricably linked to how the enemy force responds to your strategies, and so casualties, both human and material, fall under the national sovereignty of each player. Do make them realistic and try to avoid disputes, but if they arise, take them to the roleplay-planning channel on the Discord for resolution. Oh, and use the [nation][/nation] command for mentioning, with the nation's name being between the ][. Like such: [nation]United Federal Districts[/nation]. If you quote my post, you will be able to see how I quoted you in your own text box.

IC: The Military of Molcadara swiftly moved through the territory of the New California Republic, with a force of two field armies; the Molcadaran soldiers were both cheerful and polite to the Californian soldiers they encountered at the border with [nation=short]Ord Trea[/nation], following the declaration of war against the LRA's patron. The Kingdom of Molcadara began its campaign by utilizing stealth bombers and long-range modern artillery to bombard the air fields and anti-air weapons of its enemy, with the aim of securing uncontested air superiority from the beginning in order to minimize its own casualties from conventional warfare. At the same time as its attacks would be preoccupying or destroying the air-based military assets of its enemy, the Military of Molcadara would send, with air support, tanks and other military vehicles, including mechanized infantry and modern artillery, in an effort to swiftly seize control of strategic military bases in Ord Trea in order to act as bases for their own efforts to occupy the nation, along with securing their supply chain.

IC: The NCR moved forward, coupling with [nation]Molcadara[/nation]'s forces. The New Californian armies, a total of 250,000 soldiers and air support, would head straight for the capital of [nation]Ord Trea[/nation]. The generals of NCR and Molcadara are coordinating their strategies, in an effort to avoid friendly fire and increase efficiency. The government is also using the monetary compensation given by the Molcadara after the NCR's pledge to fight terrorism to aid in establishing supply chains for both government's armies. The Western Front seems like it will be an easy victory, though President Sanders refuses to acknowledge this.

The Socialist Republic Of Russia wrote:I am officially leaving NationStates. This region has been wonderful and I would like to say a hearty thank you to TRTHNBB. Regarding the map, you can take all my land away, except Saint Petersburg. I want there to be something that reminds everyone of me. :-)

See ya

Goodbye, and thank you for your time with us.

-Stans, Ownzone

IC: The combined forces of Ansuriel (1 Corp of 40.000 soldiers divided in 3 divisions), Oldmanzakk (1 division of 15.000) and the 540.000 soldiers of New West Tropico have launched their attack to the Southern territories of Ord Trea in New Mexico. The troops are moving to take the cities of Silver City and Las Cruces. The land attack is heavily supported by mechanized vehicles and air forces, both aircrafts and helicopters.

IC: The population of nearly 8 million Ord Treans has taken up arms, with nearly a third of the population preparing to fight. The 2.5 million militants are mainly armed with hunting rifles and civilian shotguns. About 500,000 of the militants are armed with military-grade weaponry.

IC: As announced previously the Ursurian government has expressed intent to create a larger military, this project is now well underway as can be seen in the new military fact book(https://www.nationstates.net/nation=ursus_island/detail=factbook/id=798326). However we are lacking in a few key areas as military production is still low and many new volunteers are soon to finish training. In order to meet this growing demand Ursus is looking to partner with a nation with a larger military industrial complex. If possible Ursus would like to commission a variety of vehicles, naval vessels and especially helicopters and light airplanes.

Ursus Island wrote:IC: As announced previously the Ursurian government has expressed intent to create a larger military, this project is now well underway as can be seen in the new military fact book(https://www.nationstates.net/nation=ursus_island/detail=factbook/id=798326). However we are lacking in a few key areas as military production is still low and many new volunteers are soon to finish training. In order to meet this growing demand Ursus is looking to partner with a nation with a larger military industrial complex. If possible Ursus would like to commission a variety of vehicles, naval vessels and especially helicopters and light airplanes.

IC: The Kingdom of Molcadara would gladly fill this role.

Ord Trea wrote:IC: The population of nearly 8 million Ord Treans has taken up arms, with nearly a third of the population preparing to fight. The 2.5 million militants are mainly armed with hunting rifles and civilian shotguns. About 500,000 of the militants are armed with military-grade weaponry.

IC: The Molcadaran military went on its original path, assuming control of strategically important points and supply lines to secure its push into Ord Trean territory, and seeing that they were faced with little more than civilian volunteers, the Molcadaran Military assumed the position of utilizing tranquilizer ammunition and the like to render the attackers unconscious for transportation back to Molcadara. Since there was little in the way of cities for the Molcadaran military to target, they instead moved to seize control of such towns as had significant arsenals or military industries, in order to cut off the supplies of the militia, and they utilized their usual policy of air-dropping humanitarian supplies into areas that were not yet under their occupation.

Ord Trea wrote:IC: The population of nearly 8 million Ord Treans has taken up arms, with nearly a third of the population preparing to fight. The 2.5 million militants are mainly armed with hunting rifles and civilian shotguns. About 500,000 of the militants are armed with military-grade weaponry.
IC: With focused air strikes against supposed locations of local HQs and helicopters supporting the advance, main battle tanks and armoured vehicles have been used as spearhead to push forward the advance, while infantry on foot proceed to occupy key points and cut off sacks of resistance.

Ord Trea wrote:IC: The population of nearly 8 million Ord Treans has taken up arms, with nearly a third of the population preparing to fight. The 2.5 million militants are mainly armed with hunting rifles and civilian shotguns. About 500,000 of the militants are armed with military-grade weaponry.

President Sanders urges the civilians of Ord Trea to throw down their weapons and end the fight. The government of the NCR would like to avoid further bloodshed if possible, but will treat the civilians as enemy combatants if they do not comply.

Bernie Nation wrote:President Sanders urges the civilians of Ord Trea to throw down their weapons and end the fight. The government of the NCR would like to avoid further bloodshed if possible, but will treat the civilians as enemy combatants if they do not comply.

IC: The militants collectively refuse, stating that they aren't cowardly.

Ursus Island wrote:IC: As announced previously the Ursurian government has expressed intent to create a larger military, this project is now well underway as can be seen in the new military fact book(https://www.nationstates.net/nation=ursus_island/detail=factbook/id=798326). However we are lacking in a few key areas as military production is still low and many new volunteers are soon to finish training. In order to meet this growing demand Ursus is looking to partner with a nation with a larger military industrial complex. If possible Ursus would like to commission a variety of vehicles, naval vessels and especially helicopters and light airplanes.

The Kaitiland government would like to have The Holy Fotopoulosian Union of Ursus Island join AINSS (Alliance of Island Nation Socialist States), here we have a military coalition, and share resources such as armed forces.

Ord Trea wrote:IC: The militants collectively refuse, stating that they aren't cowardly.

IC: Clearly upset by the response of the Ord Trea citizens, President Sanders has given the NCR forces the "all-clear" to engage on sight. The death toll is expected to rise rapidly as the combined forces of the NCR and Molcadara continue to push East.

OOC: Kaitiland I'm intrigued by the AINSS, but know nothing about it, is there a Factbook I could read?

Ursus Island wrote:OOC: Kaitiland I'm intrigued by the AINSS, but know nothing about it, is there a Factbook I could read?

OOC: Not at the moment no, but I will tell you about it. There is a military coalition where we sent troops to be apart of the AINSS International Armed Forces, and we basically act like a normal alliance. Your countries leader, like the others in AINSS (Yodle, and New West Tropico) would be Officer, while mine is Commander. We also have our own Discord server.

Yodle

Ursus Island wrote:IC: As announced previously the Ursurian government has expressed intent to create a larger military, this project is now well underway as can be seen in the new military fact book(https://www.nationstates.net/nation=ursus_island/detail=factbook/id=798326). However we are lacking in a few key areas as military production is still low and many new volunteers are soon to finish training. In order to meet this growing demand Ursus is looking to partner with a nation with a larger military industrial complex. If possible Ursus would like to commission a variety of vehicles, naval vessels and especially helicopters and light airplanes.

IC: with a capable industry, The Head of State would like to meet at the Capitol to showcase the latest in military hardware and could have military contracts started within a month.

Yodle

Kaitiland wrote:

The Kaitiland government would like to have The Holy Fotopoulosian Union of Ursus Island join AINSS (Alliance of Island Nation Socialist States), here we have a military coalition, and share resources such as armed forces.

IC: Ursus would be proud to be represented in the AINSS and is happy to be part of an international community that believes in military cooperation for common goals

Yodle

United Federal Districts wrote:IC: with a capable industry, The Head of State would like to meet at the Capitol to showcase the latest in military hardware and could have military contracts started within a month.

Molcadara wrote:IC: The Kingdom of Molcadara would gladly fill this role.

IC: The Ursurian government would like to take up both nations on their generous offers, as it is always best not to put all of your eggs in one basket, and would allow for greater technological diversity which is a mainstay of the Ursurian CMPF

Ursus Island wrote:IC: As announced previously the Ursurian government has expressed intent to create a larger military, this project is now well underway as can be seen in the new military fact book(https://www.nationstates.net/nation=ursus_island/detail=factbook/id=798326). However we are lacking in a few key areas as military production is still low and many new volunteers are soon to finish training. In order to meet this growing demand Ursus is looking to partner with a nation with a larger military industrial complex. If possible Ursus would like to commission a variety of vehicles, naval vessels and especially helicopters and light airplanes.

Cantabrian Air Force and Navy manufacturers have shown their interest in producing aircraft and ships for the Ursurian Armed Forces.

Domestic Affairs Announcements & Updates [April 3rd-9th]

Fellow Residents,

This is a new format I am going to be trying out to try and reduce the number of regional telegrams and announcements I normally would give out for the Ministry of Domestic Affairs. Every week I will send out reports like this, with all the necessary announcements and news you need to stay updated in the everyday affairs of the region!

To start this off, I would like to thank all the Residents who partook in our March/April 2017 Regional Census! Tonight I ended the Census Poll and will have all the results released sometime mid-April :D We got around 40 unique entries, which is great turnout for us! This Regional Census' results will be based off of 20% of active Residents' responses in the region, so it will be fairly representative in giving us a sense of what the average individual in the region looks like! :3 More to come as we analyze the statistics and make conclusions based on the results...

This Saturday (4/8) will be our next scheduled Parliament Session, as dictated yesterday by [nation=short]Jiangai[/nation], our Parliament Minister (PM)! All debate and discussion about proposed legislation will take place on our Discord the 24 hours leading up to the Voting Period for sessions. A new style and format for writing legislation that is more professional will be made the new standard in this session, so if you have a bill that you would like to introduce make sure to pass it by [nation=short]Jiangai[/nation] or [nation=short]Yodle[/nation] (me) to make sure it's properly formatted to fit the new standards. The reason for these standards we are introducing is to make our Parliament more closely resembling real legislative bodies by creating more professional pieces of legislation that we can vote on and discuss! Please visit us on our Discord if you are interested in learning more about the Parliament, or simply telegram [nation=short]Yodle[/nation]/[nation=short]Jiangai[/nation]!

Here are some quick reminders...

. If you are interested claiming land on the regional map make sure to telegram [nation=short]Eastern Behrezvia[/nation] and he can help you!

. If you are interested in learning more about how RolePlay (RP) works in our region, telegram our VP, [nation=short]Shangyan[/nation], or join our Discord to talk with everyone real-time about it!

. If you are in the World Assembly (WA) and have not endorsed our WA Delegate/President [nation=short]Bernie Nation[/nation], please make sure to do so! Also, if you are not in the World Assembly and would like to learn how to join it, please telegram me and I can assist you! :D

Thank you and more to come soon,

[nation=short]Yodle[/nation]

Minister of Domestic Affairs

Bernie Nation, Oldmanzakk, Ursus Island

IC : Sarrepont would like to understand what the fudge is going on. Also we adopt -for now- a neutral position ; the Anarchists International Brigades would probably not be engaged in this war.

Sarrepont wrote:IC : Sarrepont would like to understand what the fudge is going on. Also we adopt -for now- a neutral position ; the Anarchists International Brigades would probably not be engaged in this war.

OOC: the Rogue Nation of Ord Trea supports a local terrorist organisation called LRA which is responsible of multiple act of violence around the world, that's why many Nations of the international community waged war against it.

Sarrepont wrote:IC : Sarrepont would like to understand what the fudge is going on. Also we adopt -for now- a neutral position ; the Anarchists International Brigades would probably not be engaged in this war.

I forgot to mention that the LRA is a Christian Supremacist terrorist organisation.

Eastern Behrezvia

Oldmanzakk wrote:I forgot to mention that the LRA is a Christian Supremacist terrorist organisation.

Ok we will give military support to the nations fighting the LRA.

Eastern Behrezvia

IC: Nearly 500,000 more Ord Treans have taken up arms against the invaders.

IC: The 5,000 Behrezvian soldiers have arrived, and are moving in towards Albuquerque.

Greetings The Region That Has No Big Banks,

I am [nation=short]American Grand Eagle[/nation], Superiorem Merionem Region's Secretary of Foreign Affairs. I am eager to work with you guys and hope we can strengthen our bond as great, proud regions. If there any questions or concerns, you can telegram me anytime. If one of our members, spams or trolls your RMB please do not hesitate to contact me as soon as possible. If you know of any possible threats to you or any allied regions of yours, please by all means contact our Secretary of External Defense, [nation=short]Marksista[/nation].

Thank you for your time.

United Federal Districts, Bernie Nation, -Stans, Ursus Island, Eastern Behrezvia

OOC: Quick message for those who want land on the regional map. Don't ask for land that's sprawling, non-adjacent on the same landmass, or on other continents, unless a proper reason is specified. Thank you.

Bernie Nation, -Stans

Ord Trea wrote:IC: Nearly 500,000 more Ord Treans have taken up arms against the invaders.

The NCR military has successfully established several temporary air force base within Ord Trea. This has allowed bombers and fighter jets to move deeper into the country, providing air support for the ground troops. General McCelene has stated that this is the first step to ensuring that the Ord Trea militants don't regain territory.

IC: All prisons are undergoing reconstruction, as they are being re-purposed as labor camps. Those who break the same law several times will be subject to these camps as punishment. Not only will this increase productivity, this will also increase wages for law abiding citizens. Furthermore, unemployment will now be treated as a crime. While these laws were not voted on, Kade has the power to back them up with the military.

Kaitiland wrote:IC: All prisons are undergoing reconstruction, as they are being re-purposed as labor camps. Those who break the same law several times will be subject to these camps as punishment. Not only will this increase productivity, this will also increase wages for law abiding citizens. Furthermore, unemployment will now be treated as a crime. While these laws were not voted on, Kade has the power to back them up with the military.

IC: The Head of State is concerned that UFD citizens could be put in this "unique" prison system. Mr. Strubing would like all UFD citizens accused of a crime to be extradited to United Federal Districts with a guarantee of a fair trial. If this proposal is not approved by Kade then travel will be restricted for ordinary tourists and business travel.

Kaitiland wrote:IC: All prisons are undergoing reconstruction, as they are being re-purposed as labor camps. Those who break the same law several times will be subject to these camps as punishment. Not only will this increase productivity, this will also increase wages for law abiding citizens. Furthermore, unemployment will now be treated as a crime. While these laws were not voted on, Kade has the power to back them up with the military.

IC: The Kingdom of Molcadara commends the Kaitilander Government on taking measures to ensure that all of its citizens, regardless of legal status, will maintain professional skills for their own personal fulfillment and the benefit of society at large.

Primera Republica De Cantabria wrote:

Cantabrian Air Force and Navy manufacturers have shown their interest in producing aircraft and ships for the Ursurian Armed Forces.

Ursus would be happy to accept, we believe this would serve dual purposes as it would not only help our military efforts but also help reestablish Cantabria industry after the Civil war

IC: Multiple small towns have become well fortified, with the militants setting up sniper positions, trenches and spider-holes in various locations. Makeshift minefields have been established on major throughways and around towns.

OOC: Another one of Eastern Behrezvia's puppets. This one represents the LRA.

Bernie Nation, Oldmanzakk

United Federal Districts wrote:IC: The Head of State is concerned that UFD citizens could be put in this "unique" prison system. Mr. Strubing would like all UFD citizens accused of a crime to be extradited to United Federal Districts with a guarantee of a fair trial. If this proposal is not approved by Kade then travel will be restricted for ordinary tourists and business travel.

IC: Kade assures that, while they may not ALL be sent back where they need to be, as the issue with such a large scale, they will be treated with the same regards as all citizens in the right to a fair trial.

IC: Large scale strikes and public riots against the government have made Kade rethink his initial view on unemployment, now, unemployment AND not working your hours will be seen as treason. Furthermore, all workers unions will now have officials in their ranks to ensure that they are not breaking any laws.

IC: The LRA has deployed multiple soldiers in various Ord Trean towns, to support the defense.

Kaitiland wrote:IC: Large scale strikes and public riots against the government have made Kade rethink his initial view on unemployment, now, unemployment AND not working your hours will be seen as treason. Furthermore, all workers unions will now have officials in their ranks to ensure that they are not breaking any laws.

IC: While Ursurian officials have made no official statement there is growing public unease over the situation in Kaitland as residents fear that part of the Kaitlander laws are being neglected and that the strikes might worsen. The law in question: "Kaitiland is governed under a Parliamentary system, with the Head of State holding just as much power as all other members of the council. The Parliament has the power to review laws, but the popular vote decides if laws are added and/or amended."- Kaitland Factbook. While Ursus in no way seeks to violate Kaitiland sovereignty it is worrying that the strikes and protests in Kaitland, as well as the labor camps, may lead to some form of international incident, Ursus believes it would be best if this is prevented.

IC: All Cantabrian citizens in Kaitiland have been evacuated today due to the inminent passage of the Condemnation of Kaitiland.

Ownzone is proud to announce that it has received the Order of Kutuzov, the Order of Suvorov and the Order of The Great Patriotic Nuclear War for its contributions to the achievements of the The People's Red Army during N-Day (Placed 14th overall as a faction)

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=797801

It also likes to congratulate other recipients in our region amongst them:

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_godfather

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=new_west_tropico

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=task_force_z

It speaks for itself that I had a "blast" during the N-event. As the current poll shows that sentiment is not shared by many of our fellow region members. The ones that did do "good" were the ones that switched sides before, during or after the night our regions' faction got annihilated. During my (short) time in this region, the RMB and on discord i've grown to appreciate the persons running the nations in this region, their attitude and their knowledge of this game, polictis and things in general. However I feel their view on this game is completely different than mine.

The reason our members didn't do "good" during this event is because the region was completely unprepared and to be harsh it seemed our regional authority hardly seemed to care. Sure we had our own faction and their was some activity on the discord server but it was uncoordinated and even "sabotaged" by our own by deeming the N-event as "not important" and "noncanonical". As the opinion of an individual that is all fine and dandy but if that is or becomes the opinion of our regional authorities and it obstructs or conflicts with the gameplay experience of Member Nations of this region it can be a problem.

Personally I enjoy these little "side games" and make them part of my NationStates experience. I see them as a test to see how good the Member Nations are able to work together and achieve a common goal whether that is simply "surviving" or to "annihilate all fascist". However I feel to be standing mostly alone in this region as most of the Member Nations of this region seem to focus on what I call a minimally structered creative writing roleplay. The rules carefully crafted by Shangyan seem to provide the necessary framework but to my taste it is way too open as it TOTALLY ignores NS-stats. I have problems accepting RP that are totally not supported by the actions of the avatar they are supposed to represent. It kills the RP experience for me. On top of that both the regions overall theme as most nations ideology seem to lean towards pacifism. A view I in theory and in RL support however in politics it raises some practical problems but I digress .......disregarding the "violence"-related events as N-day and Z-day seems in line with this overall attitude however when you look at the RP it is for at least 75% about........you guessed it "violence and power"-related topics. I can't put these 2 together. So some explanation would be appreciated.

Anyhow I want to check if more Member Nations feel this way. I am willing to particpate and even coordinate the preparation for the next event while being in this region but I need to have the idea that the efforts are supported and actively enjoyed by at least 10% of the region (I am looking at you Gria Erikers and Task Force Z). Otherwise it might be better for me to pack my things and find a region that is more "in sync" with the way I like to enjoy my NS.

Greetings,

Ownzone

United Federal Districts

Ownzone wrote:Ownzone is proud to announce that it has received the Order of Kutuzov, the Order of Suvorov and the Order of The Great Patriotic Nuclear War for its contributions to the achievements of the The People's Red Army during N-Day (Placed 14th overall as a faction)

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=797801

It also likes to congratulate other recipients in our region amongst them:

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_godfather

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=new_west_tropico

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=task_force_z

It speaks for itself that I had a "blast" during the N-event. As the current poll shows that sentiment is not shared by many of our fellow region members. The ones that did do "good" were the ones that switched sides before, during or after the night our regions' faction got annihilated. During my (short) time in this region, the RMB and on discord i've grown to appreciate the persons running the nations in this region, their attitude and their knowledge of this game, polictis and things in general. However I feel their view on this game is completely different than mine.

The reason our members didn't do "good" during this event is because the region was completely unprepared and to be harsh it seemed our regional authority hardly seemed to care. Sure we had our own faction and their was some activity on the discord server but it was uncoordinated and even "sabotaged" by our own by deeming the N-event as "not important" and "noncanonical". As the opinion of an individual that is all fine and dandy but if that is or becomes the opinion of our regional authorities and it obstructs or conflicts with the gameplay experience of Member Nations of this region it can be a problem.

Personally I enjoy these little "side games" and make them part of my NationStates experience. I see them as a test to see how good the Member Nations are able to work together and achieve a common goal whether that is simply "surviving" or to "annihilate all fascist". However I feel to be standing mostly alone in this region as most of the Member Nations of this region seem to focus on what I call a minimally structered creative writing roleplay. The rules carefully crafted by Shangyan seem to provide the necessary framework but to my taste it is way too open as it TOTALLY ignores NS-stats. I have problems accepting RP that are totally not supported by the actions of the avatar they are supposed to represent. It kills the RP experience for me. On top of that both the regions overall theme as most nations ideology seem to lean towards pacifism. A view I in theory and in RL support however in politics it raises some practical problems but I digress .......disregarding the "violence"-related events as N-day and Z-day seems in line with this overall attitude however when you look at the RP it is for at least 75% about........you guessed it "violence and power"-related topics. I can't put these 2 together. So some explanation would be appreciated.

Anyhow I want to check if more Member Nations feel this way. I am willing to particpate and even coordinate the preparation for the next event while being in this region but I need to have the idea that the efforts are supported and actively enjoyed by at least 10% of the region (I am looking at you Gria Erikers and Task Force Z). Otherwise it might be better for me to pack my things and find a region that is more "in sync" with the way I like to enjoy my NS.

Greetings,

Ownzone

The so-called nation represented by the mechanics of the websites is nothing but a glorified profile on a media account dedicated to conveying OOC messages and information about the "true" nation. My years of NS RP experience have honestly led me to barely even notice that NS Stats exist, much less create a break in immersion for me, and by my personal experience, the same should soon be true of most of the people RPing here.

Regarding the violence, Ownzone, these are not exactly "planned" in the traditional sense, though consent was given for them. You see, there are a number of ways a nation can react to large scale international terrorism, and to an undiplomatic nation protecting and supporting them. It just so happens that most nations seem inclined to resolve the issue with military build-up and military action, which seems reasonable, but you would have to ask the individuals for their rationale.

As for why, in general, these are the types of RP predominant at the moment; most of the nations here are still getting their footing in the shallow end of the RP pool, and this sort of RP is a simple way for them to get used to the mechanics, international cooperation, and response to common issues. Does that help?

Bernie Nation, Ownzone, New West Tropico, Eastern Behrezvia

Shangyan wrote:The so-called nation represented by the mechanics of the websites is nothing but a glorified profile on a media account dedicated to conveying OOC messages and information about the "true" nation. My years of NS RP experience have honestly led me to barely even notice that NS Stats exist, much less create a break in immersion for me, and by my personal experience, the same should soon be true of most of the people RPing here.

Regarding the violence, Ownzone, these are not exactly "planned" in the traditional sense, though consent was given for them. You see, there are a number of ways a nation can react to large scale international terrorism, and to an undiplomatic nation protecting and supporting them. It just so happens that most nations seem inclined to resolve the issue with military build-up and military action, which seems reasonable, but you would have to ask the individuals for their rationale.

As for why, in general, these are the types of RP predominant at the moment; most of the nations here are still getting their footing in the shallow end of the RP pool, and this sort of RP is a simple way for them to get used to the mechanics, international cooperation, and response to common issues. Does that help?

Personally, I do use some NS stats; if the stats don't work with the RP rules, then tweak the stats until they do.

Ownzone, New West Tropico

Ownzone wrote:Ownzone is proud to announce that it has received the Order of Kutuzov, the Order of Suvorov and the Order of The Great Patriotic Nuclear War for its contributions to the achievements of the The People's Red Army during N-Day (Placed 14th overall as a faction)

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=797801

It also likes to congratulate other recipients in our region amongst them:

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_godfather

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=new_west_tropico

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=task_force_z

It speaks for itself that I had a "blast" during the N-event. As the current poll shows that sentiment is not shared by many of our fellow region members. The ones that did do "good" were the ones that switched sides before, during or after the night our regions' faction got annihilated. During my (short) time in this region, the RMB and on discord i've grown to appreciate the persons running the nations in this region, their attitude and their knowledge of this game, polictis and things in general. However I feel their view on this game is completely different than mine.

The reason our members didn't do "good" during this event is because the region was completely unprepared and to be harsh it seemed our regional authority hardly seemed to care. Sure we had our own faction and their was some activity on the discord server but it was uncoordinated and even "sabotaged" by our own by deeming the N-event as "not important" and "noncanonical". As the opinion of an individual that is all fine and dandy but if that is or becomes the opinion of our regional authorities and it obstructs or conflicts with the gameplay experience of Member Nations of this region it can be a problem.

Personally I enjoy these little "side games" and make them part of my NationStates experience. I see them as a test to see how good the Member Nations are able to work together and achieve a common goal whether that is simply "surviving" or to "annihilate all fascist". However I feel to be standing mostly alone in this region as most of the Member Nations of this region seem to focus on what I call a minimally structered creative writing roleplay. The rules carefully crafted by Shangyan seem to provide the necessary framework but to my taste it is way too open as it TOTALLY ignores NS-stats. I have problems accepting RP that are totally not supported by the actions of the avatar they are supposed to represent. It kills the RP experience for me. On top of that both the regions overall theme as most nations ideology seem to lean towards pacifism. A view I in theory and in RL support however in politics it raises some practical problems but I digress .......disregarding the "violence"-related events as N-day and Z-day seems in line with this overall attitude however when you look at the RP it is for at least 75% about........you guessed it "violence and power"-related topics. I can't put these 2 together. So some explanation would be appreciated.

Anyhow I want to check if more Member Nations feel this way. I am willing to particpate and even coordinate the preparation for the next event while being in this region but I need to have the idea that the efforts are supported and actively enjoyed by at least 10% of the region (I am looking at you Gria Erikers and Task Force Z). Otherwise it might be better for me to pack my things and find a region that is more "in sync" with the way I like to enjoy my NS.

Greetings,

Ownzone

OOC: As much as I'd love for this to be backed up by NS stats I view the system to be very inflexible and limited.

Ownzone wrote:Ownzone is proud to announce that it has received the Order of Kutuzov, the Order of Suvorov and the Order of The Great Patriotic Nuclear War for its contributions to the achievements of the The People's Red Army during N-Day (Placed 14th overall as a faction)

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=797801

It also likes to congratulate other recipients in our region amongst them:

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_godfather

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=new_west_tropico

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=task_force_z

It speaks for itself that I had a "blast" during the N-event. As the current poll shows that sentiment is not shared by many of our fellow region members. The ones that did do "good" were the ones that switched sides before, during or after the night our regions' faction got annihilated. During my (short) time in this region, the RMB and on discord i've grown to appreciate the persons running the nations in this region, their attitude and their knowledge of this game, polictis and things in general. However I feel their view on this game is completely different than mine.

The reason our members didn't do "good" during this event is because the region was completely unprepared and to be harsh it seemed our regional authority hardly seemed to care. Sure we had our own faction and their was some activity on the discord server but it was uncoordinated and even "sabotaged" by our own by deeming the N-event as "not important" and "noncanonical". As the opinion of an individual that is all fine and dandy but if that is or becomes the opinion of our regional authorities and it obstructs or conflicts with the gameplay experience of Member Nations of this region it can be a problem.

Personally I enjoy these little "side games" and make them part of my NationStates experience. I see them as a test to see how good the Member Nations are able to work together and achieve a common goal whether that is simply "surviving" or to "annihilate all fascist". However I feel to be standing mostly alone in this region as most of the Member Nations of this region seem to focus on what I call a minimally structered creative writing roleplay. The rules carefully crafted by Shangyan seem to provide the necessary framework but to my taste it is way too open as it TOTALLY ignores NS-stats. I have problems accepting RP that are totally not supported by the actions of the avatar they are supposed to represent. It kills the RP experience for me. On top of that both the regions overall theme as most nations ideology seem to lean towards pacifism. A view I in theory and in RL support however in politics it raises some practical problems but I digress .......disregarding the "violence"-related events as N-day and Z-day seems in line with this overall attitude however when you look at the RP it is for at least 75% about........you guessed it "violence and power"-related topics. I can't put these 2 together. So some explanation would be appreciated.

Anyhow I want to check if more Member Nations feel this way. I am willing to particpate and even coordinate the preparation for the next event while being in this region but I need to have the idea that the efforts are supported and actively enjoyed by at least 10% of the region (I am looking at you Gria Erikers and Task Force Z). Otherwise it might be better for me to pack my things and find a region that is more "in sync" with the way I like to enjoy my NS.

Greetings,

Ownzone

So regarding the NS Events, it was more that we in the cabinet (as a whole) were away for the weekend for various reasons, so on the day of the apocalypse we weren't here to govern effectively. However, this is more of an outlier as for the 2016 Z-Day we were very prepared and cured everyone in the region within the first 24 hours of the apocalypse. A possible solution for future events would be to create a subsection of the executive branch that would specifically cover the handling of NS events and its preparation through direct volunteering, but we can discuss that further once a new event is closer

United Federal Districts, Ursus Island, Ownzone

Yodle wrote:So regarding the NS Events, it was more that we in the cabinet (as a whole) were away for the weekend for various reasons, so on the day of the apocalypse we weren't here to govern effectively. However, this is more of an outlier as for the 2016 Z-Day we were very prepared and cured everyone in the region within the first 24 hours of the apocalypse. A possible solution for future events would be to create a subsection of the executive branch that would specifically cover the handling of NS events and its preparation through direct volunteering, but we can discuss that further once a new event is closer

Then maybe we should have a group chat on KiK for emergencys in the region.

Ownzone

United Federal Districts wrote:

Then maybe we should have a group chat on KiK for emergencys in the region.

There's the discord channel

Ursus Island wrote:There's the discord channel

I guess that can work but can that reach most of the regional cabinet in a timely manner?

United Federal Districts wrote:

I guess that can work but can that reach most of the regional cabinet in a timely manner?

They're on there pretty frequently I've noticed, I think it'd work better than using a whole different messenger, maybe we could make a special sub channel for it

Bernie Nation

United Federal Districts wrote:I guess that can work but can that reach most of the regional cabinet in a timely manner?

The government is among the most active groups on the Discord.

Bernie Nation, Ownzone

Guys it was an April Fool event... It is entirely possible that next year Mr. Barry will brought up something totally different. Don't make it a big deal out of it. There are many other things in which we can work together in the Region ;)

United Federal Districts, Bernie Nation, Ansuriel, -Stans, Ursus Island, Arguin Isle, Molcadara

IC: Kade has disarmed his military, except for the ones he finds loyal. He now only accepts soldiers from the Yodle part of the AINSS military. All international travel is banned. With this done, Kade now announces himself as the rightful heir, and new King of the Kaitiland royal bloodline, and now establishes the New Kingdom of Kaitiland.

Molcadara wrote:The government is among the most active groups on the Discord.

It's actually THE most active group on Discord! That's how I made my picks and appointments.

Kaitiland wrote:IC: Kade has disarmed his military, except for the ones he finds loyal. He now only accepts soldiers from the Yodle part of the AINSS military. All international travel is banned. With this done, Kade now announces himself as the rightful heir, and new King of the Kaitiland royal bloodline, and now establishes the New Kingdom of Kaitiland.

IC: The Kingdom of Molcadara is skeptical that Kaitiland possesses the social infrastructure and cultural traditions to support a productive monarchical institution in a stable state for any length of time.

Kaitiland wrote:IC: Kade has disarmed his military, except for the ones he finds loyal. He now only accepts soldiers from the Yodle part of the AINSS military. All international travel is banned. With this done, Kade now announces himself as the rightful heir, and new King of the Kaitiland royal bloodline, and now establishes the New Kingdom of Kaitiland.

IC: y con eso y un bizcocho, te jodes a las ocho

Kaitiland wrote:IC: Kade has disarmed his military, except for the ones he finds loyal. He now only accepts soldiers from the Yodle part of the AINSS military. All international travel is banned. With this done, Kade now announces himself as the rightful heir, and new King of the Kaitiland royal bloodline, and now establishes the New Kingdom of Kaitiland.
The Ursurian Confederal Council has denounced the seizure of power by Kade as it seems to be against the will of the people, isolationist, and the military policy seems to be corrupt.

Oldmanzakk wrote:Guys it was an April Fool event... It is entirely possible that next year Mr. Barry will brought up something totally different. Don't make it a big deal out of it. There are many other things in which we can work together in the Region ;)

Exactly with this attitude I have a problem.....ofcourse next year it might be completely different. In fact I hope it is something completely different. When you lead a nation or a region you need to deal with the unexpected. Being prepared and acting if necessary is a prerequisite for good governance. You think a "real" government would get away with the excuse....well yeah.....euh...we were like....euh.....away for the weekend for various reasons, so on the day of the apocalypse we weren't here to....like....govern effectively.

Good luck on your next election with that mate (sorry for the character attack Yodle you got my vote and you came immediately through with a possible solution). This stuff was ANNOUNCED. It was not like a nuclear bomb came out of nowhere. Proper administration also means delegation when you can't deal with things yourself.

The whole point that I tried to bring up is that people "play" this game differently and that no one should dictate how some else should play it. Especially not the executive branch. I respect your oppinion about threating it as just an "event".

I might not agree with it but I can't and won't blame you for not particpiating however you can't tell me to not make a big deal about it just because it is "just an event" or "there are many other things in which we can work together". I just saw most of my region getting blown to smithereens!!!......what do you want to work together on first??....Gathering body parts, the treatment of radiation victims, search and rescue for the few that were wise enough (like Gria Erikers) to hide in their fallout shelter.....your call I am flexible.

I give props to the Members of Government that adressed my problem and are thinking about a solution. Yes, I am "blowing" this way out of proportion but I happen to like these events and this one I treated like a test and our region (not just the executive branch) botched this up completely. That is why my initial question remains. Do enough nations here like these events and other stuff NS throws in our face to make RP around it feasible and enjoyable or should I look for my NS-fix elsewhere?

P.S. On the usage of NS Stats I side with Eastern Berehzvia.....tweak them...it is half the fun....Shangyan's view on treating the stats and the Nation's description "as glorified profile on a media account" is interesting since I haven't earlier regarded it in that way. However even a glorified profile usually displays some truths and gives insights about a person. If you were going out hiking for 5 days while camping in the wilderness at night who would you take out of these 3 profiles:

- A) The skinny guy who apparently enjoys Foo fighters music and playing Hearthstone

- B) The tall blonde who apparently enjoys frapuccino's, shopping and taking selfies

- C) The camouflage wearing bloke who apparently enjoys fishing and plays on the hockey team

P.S. For all you dirty minds out there a bit of clarification....the prime goal is to make a good team and survive on your own.

Plomo

Ownzone wrote:Yes, I am "blowing" this way out of proportion

At least we can agree on something.

Ownzone wrote:Exactly with this attitude I have a problem.....ofcourse next year it might be completely different. In fact I hope it is something completely different. When you lead a nation or a region you need to deal with the unexpected. Being prepared and acting if necessary is a prerequisite for good governance. You think a "real" government would get away with the excuse....well yeah.....euh...we were like....euh.....away for the weekend for various reasons, so on the day of the apocalypse we weren't here to....like....govern effectively.

Good luck on your next election with that mate (sorry for the character attack Yodle you got my vote and you came immediately through with a possible solution). This stuff was ANNOUNCED. It was not like a nuclear bomb came out of nowhere. Proper administration also means delegation when you can't deal with things yourself.

The whole point that I tried to bring up is that people "play" this game differently and that no one should dictate how some else should play it. Especially not the executive branch. I respect your oppinion about threating it as just an "event".

I might not agree with it but I can't and won't blame you for not particpiating however you can't tell me to not make a big deal about it just because it is "just an event" or "there are many other things in which we can work together". I just saw most of my region getting blown to smithereens!!!......what do you want to work together on first??....Gathering body parts, the treatment of radiation victims, search and rescue for the few that were wise enough (like Gria Erikers) to hide in their fallout shelter.....your call I am flexible.

I give props to the Members of Government that adressed my problem and are thinking about a solution. Yes, I am "blowing" this way out of proportion but I happen to like these events and this one I treated like a test and our region (not just the executive branch) botched this up completely. That is why my initial question remains. Do enough nations here like these events and other stuff NS throws in our face to make RP around it feasible and enjoyable or should I look for my NS-fix elsewhere?

P.S. On the usage of NS Stats I side with Eastern Berehzvia.....tweak them...it is half the fun....Shangyan's view on treating the stats and the Nation's description "as glorified profile on a media account" is interesting since I haven't earlier regarded it in that way. However even a glorified profile usually displays some truths and gives insights about a person. If you were going out hiking for 5 days while camping in the wilderness at night who would you take out of these 3 profiles:

- A) The skinny guy who apparently enjoys Foo fighters music and playing Hearthstone

- B) The tall blonde who apparently enjoys frapuccino's, shopping and taking selfies

- C) The camouflage wearing bloke who apparently enjoys fishing and plays on the hockey team

P.S. For all you dirty minds out there a bit of clarification....the prime goal is to make a good team and survive on your own.

It's less that we're making excuses, and more than it is just something that falls outside of the spheres of responsibility for our regional government. For all intents and purposes, April Fools Day events are not an item that needs even register on the radar of the Regional Government. The Region did not get blown to smithereens. The only way that could happen is if we were taken over by raiders, which is remarkably difficult in a region with an active founder.

On my description of the nation as a glorified social media account, I do not consider the information that NS supplies to be a profile description. Those exist solely in the factbooks and dispatches, and the like. You could analogize the information provided by NS itself as nothing but a logo, slogan, motto, or any other sort of calling card that does nothing but indicate the medium used to convey the real information elsewhere. In any case, this isn't the correct place to be discussing disputations regarding regional government or the RP; those are the Cabinet and Roleplay-Planning Channels on the Regional Discord, respectively.

Bernie Nation, Oldmanzakk, Arguin Isle

Arguin Isle wrote:At least we can agree on something.

Aw, this region sucks!

Bernie Nation, Yodle, Arguin Isle

Alright, let's let sleeping dogs lie and remain civil. Ownzone, if you have an other suggestions or complaints, please do as Shangyan suggested and bring them directly to our Discord channels.

Yodle

Ownzone wrote:Exactly with this attitude I have a problem.....ofcourse next year it might be completely different. In fact I hope it is something completely different. When you lead a nation or a region you need to deal with the unexpected. Being prepared and acting if necessary is a prerequisite for good governance. You think a "real" government would get away with the excuse....well yeah.....euh...we were like....euh.....away for the weekend for various reasons, so on the day of the apocalypse we weren't here to....like....govern effectively.

Good luck on your next election with that mate (sorry for the character attack Yodle you got my vote and you came immediately through with a possible solution). This stuff was ANNOUNCED. It was not like a nuclear bomb came out of nowhere. Proper administration also means delegation when you can't deal with things yourself.

The whole point that I tried to bring up is that people "play" this game differently and that no one should dictate how some else should play it. Especially not the executive branch. I respect your oppinion about threating it as just an "event".

I might not agree with it but I can't and won't blame you for not particpiating however you can't tell me to not make a big deal about it just because it is "just an event" or "there are many other things in which we can work together". I just saw most of my region getting blown to smithereens!!!......what do you want to work together on first??....Gathering body parts, the treatment of radiation victims, search and rescue for the few that were wise enough (like Gria Erikers) to hide in their fallout shelter.....your call I am flexible.

I give props to the Members of Government that adressed my problem and are thinking about a solution. Yes, I am "blowing" this way out of proportion but I happen to like these events and this one I treated like a test and our region (not just the executive branch) botched this up completely. That is why my initial question remains. Do enough nations here like these events and other stuff NS throws in our face to make RP around it feasible and enjoyable or should I look for my NS-fix elsewhere?

P.S. On the usage of NS Stats I side with Eastern Berehzvia.....tweak them...it is half the fun....Shangyan's view on treating the stats and the Nation's description "as glorified profile on a media account" is interesting since I haven't earlier regarded it in that way. However even a glorified profile usually displays some truths and gives insights about a person. If you were going out hiking for 5 days while camping in the wilderness at night who would you take out of these 3 profiles:

- A) The skinny guy who apparently enjoys Foo fighters music and playing Hearthstone

- B) The tall blonde who apparently enjoys frapuccino's, shopping and taking selfies

- C) The camouflage wearing bloke who apparently enjoys fishing and plays on the hockey team

P.S. For all you dirty minds out there a bit of clarification....the prime goal is to make a good team and survive on your own.

IC: how much is your cheapest blow, my good sir?

IC: With the ban on travel, and heavily secured state, Kaitiland has gone mostly dark. Very few is heard from the people. On that note, the economy is growing.

Kaitiland wrote:IC: With the ban on travel, and heavily secured state, Kaitiland has gone mostly dark. Very few is heard from the people. On that note, the economy is growing.

OOC: Very few is heard from the government, too, apparently. Apparently the new regime isn't very chatty.

Primera Republica De Cantabria wrote:Aw, this region sucks!

Haha, whatever tickles your fancy!!

Primera Republica De Cantabria

Molcadara wrote:OOC: Very few is heard from the government, too, apparently. Apparently the new regime isn't very chatty.

OOC: did I not post that the council was disbanded/disappeared? It's an absolute Monarchy.

Kaitiland wrote:OOC: did I not post that the council was disbanded/disappeared? It's an absolute Monarchy.

OOC: The monarch still should have a Foreign Affairs Department, obviously.

Hello 👋

United Federal Districts, Bernie Nation, Yodle

Peloritania wrote:Hello 👋

Welcome!

Peloritania

Kaitiland wrote:IC: Kade has disarmed his military, except for the ones he finds loyal. He now only accepts soldiers from the Yodle part of the AINSS military. All international travel is banned. With this done, Kade now announces himself as the rightful heir, and new King of the Kaitiland royal bloodline, and now establishes the New Kingdom of Kaitiland.
IC: Emperor Cody prepares a speech, "The New Kingdom of Kaitiland." Cody looks over at the head ambassador. "This is a joke right? No? Well I would like to tell kade or the new king of kaitiland although I myself am a monarch I run under a constitutional monarchy unlike kade who has removed those he sees as not loyal. Democracy has been crushed and the people had no say if they wanted to build a kingdom unlike Tropico if a monarch is to ever take power. They must do so under Democratic measures if the monarch wants to GI absolute an election must be held seems a bit odd but still. I would believe that the people of the kaitiland nation don't like this new government. With their experience with kings as such I will refuse to negotiate with the new government until it is proven that the people of kaitiland approve of the new king.

Bernie Nation wrote:Alright, let's let sleeping dogs lie and remain civil. Ownzone, if you have an other suggestions or complaints, please do as Shangyan suggested and bring them directly to our Discord channels.

My (watch-)dogs are not sleeping and they have no desire to sleep. In fact it is their job to bark when something out of the ordinary happens. But don't worry they have no intention to bite and I have gotten my answer from your responses. It wasn't the answer I was hoping for but at least it provides clarity. I appreciate yours the most as you seem to take my question and my suggestion serious. Arguin Isle just made a passive-aggressive comment on my take on the matter and Shangyan although eloquently keeps going back to try and explain his views on the April Fools Day-event and NationStates and it's mechanics. I respect those immensely and I understand his views however I do experience it differently and trying to pursuade me to experience it his way is as futile as trying to explain to someone that what they experience as blue is actually yellow. The RP-thing I can live with the answer that a special event "falls outside of the spheres of responsibility for our regional government. For all intents and purposes, April Fools Day events are not an item that needs even register on the radar of the Regional Government" I cannot. Cantabria's response was funny as hell but addresses none of my concerns.

If you look at my original question you can also see that it was not initially directed at the regional government but to the Member Nations in general hence the use of the RMB and not the discord channel since that is used by a limited amount of nations. The poll shows that about 50% of the voters didn't partake or had no idea what the special event was. The other 50% was evenly devided between nations that "did pretty good" and that "did pretty bad". That means that 25% had a "good event" from which at least 5 out of 8 experienced the event with a faction not affilliated with this region. For N-day we had the choice for Z-day we probably do not have that option. I'm looking for a Regional Government that does treat the events as (partly) their responsibility as it is part of my NS experience. As a government you stick together which shows loyalty towards each other. You are a fine bunch.....have fun and maybe we will meet again.

New West Tropico wrote:IC: Emperor Cody prepares a speech, "The New Kingdom of Kaitiland." Cody looks over at the head ambassador. "This is a joke right? No? Well I would like to tell kade or the new king of kaitiland although I myself am a monarch I run under a constitutional monarchy unlike kade who has removed those he sees as not loyal. Democracy has been crushed and the people had no say if they wanted to build a kingdom unlike Tropico if a monarch is to ever take power. They must do so under Democratic measures if the monarch wants to GI absolute an election must be held seems a bit odd but still. I would believe that the people of the kaitiland nation don't like this new government. With their experience with kings as such I will refuse to negotiate with the new government until it is proven that the people of kaitiland approve of the new king.
*grow not GI

Ownzone wrote:My (watch-)dogs are not sleeping and they have no desire to sleep. In fact it is their job to bark when something out of the ordinary happens. But don't worry they have no intention to bite and I have gotten my answer from your responses. It wasn't the answer I was hoping for but at least it provides clarity. I appreciate yours the most as you seem to take my question and my suggestion serious. Arguin Isle just made a passive-aggressive comment on my take on the matter and Shangyan although eloquently keeps going back to try and explain his views on the April Fools Day-event and NationStates and it's mechanics. I respect those immensely and I understand his views however I do experience it differently and trying to pursuade me to experience it his way is as futile as trying to explain to someone that what they experience as blue is actually yellow. The RP-thing I can live with the answer that a special event "falls outside of the spheres of responsibility for our regional government. For all intents and purposes, April Fools Day events are not an item that needs even register on the radar of the Regional Government" I cannot. Cantabria's response was funny as hell but addresses none of my concerns.

If you look at my original question you can also see that it was not initially directed at the regional government but to the Member Nations in general hence the use of the RMB and not the discord channel since that is used by a limited amount of nations. The poll shows that about 50% of the voters didn't partake or had no idea what the special event was. The other 50% was evenly devided between nations that "did pretty good" and that "did pretty bad". That means that 25% had a "good event" from which at least 5 out of 8 experienced the event with a faction not affilliated with this region. For N-day we had the choice for Z-day we probably do not have that option. I'm looking for a Regional Government that does treat the events as (partly) their responsibility as it is part of my NS experience. As a government you stick together which shows loyalty towards each other. You are a fine bunch.....have fun and maybe we will meet again.

Have you considered bringing this up as a proposed piece of legislation for consideration by the Regional Parliament?

Molcadara wrote:Have you considered bringing this up as a proposed piece of legislation for consideration by the Regional Parliament?

Thank you for your suggestion. I have but as in a proper democracy you need popular support for legislation to even be considerated by the Regional Parliament. So I tried figuring out if that support was there. Sofar it doesn't seem to be. On top of that several members of the current parliament have already expressed their point of view on the matter. Let's just say that my lobbyists would have their work cut out for them.

Ownzone wrote:Thank you for your suggestion. I have but as in a proper democracy you need popular support for legislation to even be considerated by the Regional Parliament. So I tried figuring out if that support was there. Sofar it doesn't seem to be. On top of that several members of the current parliament have already expressed their point of view on the matter. Let's just say that my lobbyists would have their work cut out for them.

Every resident in the region has the right to have their legislative proposals voted on by Parliament, because every resident has the right to register as a member of Parliament.

Molcadara wrote:Every resident in the region has the right to have their legislative proposals voted on by Parliament, because every resident has the right to register as a member of Parliament.

I know but what is the point of proposing legislation if it has about zero percent chance of passing. Moreover why should I propose legislation that is apparently not wanted by at least a smalll portion of the member nations and some members of the Parliament. The process worked perfectly the only argument that could be made against it is that Members of the Regional Authority although the question was not directly targeted at them at first acknowledged that the treatment of the event was not ideal. Which they later retracted and stated loud and clear that they didn't see it as their responsibility thereby nipping any support regarding my analysis of this event in the bud before it could gain any momentum. Unless I am seriously mistaken this region just isn't "into the events" as much as I had liked.

Ownzone wrote:I know but what is the point of proposing legislation if it has about zero percent chance of passing. Moreover why should I propose legislation that is apparently not wanted by at least a smalll portion of the member nations and some members of the Parliament. The process worked perfectly the only argument that could be made against it is that Members of the Regional Authority although the question was not directly targeted at them at first acknowledged that the treatment of the event was not ideal. Which they later retracted and stated loud and clear that they didn't see it as their responsibility thereby nipping any support regarding my analysis of this event in the bud before it could gain any momentum. Unless I am seriously mistaken this region just isn't "into the events" as much as I had liked.

They weren't very into RP before Shangyan showed up and came up with a comprehensive list of laws and a compelling argument in favor of it.

Ownzone

Kaitiland wrote:IC: Kade has disarmed his military, except for the ones he finds loyal. He now only accepts soldiers from the Yodle part of the AINSS military. All international travel is banned. With this done, Kade now announces himself as the rightful heir, and new King of the Kaitiland royal bloodline, and now establishes the New Kingdom of Kaitiland.

IC: Mr. Strubing joins almost the rest of the international community in denouncing this Monarchy. All non essential personal and citizens will be evacuated from Kaitiland. All trading between our nations will be suspended until a fair and free election is held with monitors from all major countries. Sanctions are put on all Kaitiland industry and government officials. Naval units are deployed off the coast in international waters in a attempt to monitor this new government and its intentions. I ask the rest of the international community in joining UFD.

Oh my.

Bernie Nation, Oldmanzakk

United Federal Districts wrote:IC: Mr. Strubing joins almost the rest of the international community in denouncing this Monarchy. All non essential personal and citizens will be evacuated from Kaitiland. All trading between our nations will be suspended until a fair and free election is held with monitors from all major countries. Sanctions are put on all Kaitiland industry and government officials. Naval units are deployed off the coast in international waters in a attempt to monitor this new government and its intentions. I ask the rest of the international community in joining UFD.

OOC: International travel is banned, evacuation isn't very likely.

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