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America The GreaterAre these debates chat or audible? Currently have a bad cold and physically cannot talk above a whisper.

Yodle, America The Greater, Vordoslavia, Mjau, The Orangutan Nation

Flomonga wrote:America The GreaterAre these debates chat or audible? Currently have a bad cold and physically cannot talk above a whisper.

They're on our Discord (in text), we'd like you to join if you can!

America The Greater, Vordoslavia, Flomonga

Post self-deleted by Flomonga.

Mjau wrote:They're on our Discord (in text), we'd like you to join if you can!

Unfortunately I will not be able too this time. But I really like this new format of being able to debate because sometimes as an MP it gets kind of stale with propose and vote then repeat so I really hope the debating factor stays for the long term!

America The Greater, Vordoslavia, Mjau, Vladyslak

Flomonga wrote:Unfortunately I will not be able too this time. But I really like this new format of being able to debate because sometimes as an MP it gets kind of stale with propose and vote then repeat so I really hope the debating factor stays for the long term!

Debates are definitely here to stay. Honestly, I can't believe I didn't do this sooner - thank you Gine Caruttiva for the idea!

Gine Caruttiva, Vordoslavia, Vladyslak

Also, MPs, if you can't jump in and debate, there's still a lot of interesting topics being discussed about the bills in the Discord. You should read through some of what we've talked about, maybe it'll change your mind or help inform your opinion on a bill. Every bill author has been in the chat and has given lots of insight as to their bill's purpose.

Yodle, Vordoslavia, Vladyslak, Western Arba Fir

I love knowing how RP in this region works but choosing not to participate anyway

America The Greater, Vordoslavia

America The Greater wrote:Discord.

Still grounded

America The Greater, Puttt

Vordoslavia wrote:Still grounded

I can publish a summary of the arguments people have presented after the debate ends if you'd like

Puttt, Vordoslavia, Flomonga, Krayo29

America The Greater wrote:I can publish a summary of the arguments people have presented after the debate ends if you'd like

that'd be nice :)

Imma go take shower

America The Greater, Puttt, Vladyslak

America The Greater wrote:I can publish a summary of the arguments people have presented after the debate ends if you'd like

Please do!

America The Greater, Puttt, Vordoslavia

Vordoslavia wrote:

Still grounded

I am also currently grounded but within the next 2-5 business days I will probably not live here anymore

Puttt, Vordoslavia, Krayo29

Vladyslak wrote:I'm watching you, Lemon Boy...

😳😳😳

Puttt, Vordoslavia, Vladyslak, The Orangutan Nation

Lemona wrote:😳😳😳

*vine boom*

Puttt

good morning NBB!

America The Greater

Vordoslavia wrote:good morning NBB!

morning Vordo

Vordoslavia

MPs, here's an important change to the upcoming Voting Session: Mjau has elected to remove the Minister Removal Bill from the running. The debate period is still ongoing (it'll be shorter next time lol) but I will have an update about the specifics of the debate later on today.

Going4Numbaone, Vordoslavia, Western Arba Fir

Vordoslavia wrote:good morning NBB!

Good morning my son

America The Greater, Vordoslavia

I'd like to give everybody on the RMB an update on where we've landed so far with the Parliamentary debate on the Discord:

[list]

[*]Mjau's Amendment to Article IX of the Constitution - Secret Ballot Amendment has seen some debate over whether a secret-ballot system can guarantee fairness. Proponents have largely accepted the bill as a step toward ensuring honest, secure voting.

[*]My Amendment to Article IX of the Constitution, reducing term times to 4 months each, was very briefly covered, and no issues have been raised yet.

[*]The Kaverian's Amendment to Article XII, clarifying the veto power, has been largely viewed as straightforward.

[*]The Kaverian's Motion to Accept PA-Bylaws I-V and PB-Bylaws I-III have seen their necessity and also some technical details questioned, but they appear largely uncontroversial.

[*]New United Common-Lands's Amendment to Establishment of the Election Commission has drawn questions about whether the bill would invite corruption. Proponents mostly claim that parties in the region are not relevant enough to require representation, and that the bill would help fairly represent independent candidates.

[*]The Kaverian's Amendment to Article V has faced criticism that the bill gives too much power to the Prime Minister. Proponents include most government members, who see the bill as a common-sense amendment which would help the government maintain efficiency.

[/list]

Lemona, Vordoslavia, Mjau, Western Arba Fir

I think my message for Tennessee was pretty clear

Vordoslavia

Yodle is incorruptible

America The Greater, Vordoslavia

[sub]sadly[/sub]

America The Greater, Vordoslavia

New United Common-Lands wrote:[sub]sadly[/sub]

It's treason, then

New United Common-Lands

Lemona wrote:I think my message for Tennessee was pretty clear

What the sigma

Vordoslavia

Hopefully this time SB gives me Portugal 😁😁😁

Puttt, Vordoslavia

Regarding Mjau's proposal on Secret Ballot (as it currently stands).

My personal recommendation to MPs: Vote Against

I agree, we need restrictions on individual responses during the election period, as this could influence voting. However, this current proposal will mean they never become published to the average voter.

We have always published the responses in full after the election, I think this is important as it helps to show if there have been any procedural errors or corruption because voters can see clearly if their vote was cast properly.

During my facilitation of the last four elections I've never had a request from a single resident asking their vote not to be shared. I think we should be able to share the votes afterwards.

See below my proposed change, which I will bring to the next voting session.

[Spoiler=Secret Ballot - My Proposed Changes]

"In order to ensure privacy and fairness during the election voting period, individual responses will be available only to the Governor and any officers deemed appropriate by regional law."

[/spoiler]

Yodle, Puttt, Vordoslavia, Mjau

New United Common-Lands wrote:Regarding Mjau's proposal on Secret Ballot (as it currently stands).

My personal recommendation to MPs: Vote Against

I agree, we need restrictions on individual responses during the election period, as this could influence voting. However, this current proposal will mean they never become published to the average voter.

We have always published the responses in full after the election, I think this is important as it helps to show if there have been any procedural errors or corruption because voters can see clearly if their vote was cast properly.

During my facilitation of the last four elections I've never had a request from a single resident asking their vote not to be shared. I think we should be able to share the votes afterwards.

Slay

Yodle, Puttt, Vordoslavia

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=pyhdon/detail=factbook/id=2011774

My res! vote for!

Yodle, Puttt, Vordoslavia

Pyhdon wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/nation=pyhdon/detail=factbook/id=2011774

My res! vote for!

Love to see a process flow, however not sure how we can add that to the regional constitution

America The Greater, Puttt, Vordoslavia

New United Common-Lands wrote:Love to see a process flow, however not sure how we can add that to the regional constitution

you can, I've seen something like this somewhere

I can't remember

Puttt, Vordoslavia

New United Common-Lands wrote:Regarding Mjau's proposal on Secret Ballot (as it currently stands). . .

NUCL's recommendation destroys the purpose of the bill, which is to safeguard your votes from those who may criticize you for voting a certain way and to prevent peer pressure or harassment from interfering with everyone's right to vote for who they please.

New United Common-Lands, Puttt, Vordoslavia, Krayo29

Mjau wrote:NUCL's recommendation destroys the purpose of the bill, which is to safeguard your votes from those who may criticize you for voting a certain way and to prevent peer pressure or harassment from interfering with everyone's right to vote for who they please.

ok

btw

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=pyhdon/detail=factbook/id=2011774

is this good for a series of proposals?

Puttt, Vordoslavia

Mjau wrote:NUCL's recommendation destroys the purpose of the bill, which is to safeguard your votes from those who may criticize you for voting a certain way and to prevent peer pressure or harassment from interfering with everyone's right to vote for who they please.

ok

btw

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=pyhdon/detail=factbook/id=2011774

is this good for a series of proposals?

Puttt, Vordoslavia

Mjau wrote:NUCL's recommendation destroys the purpose of the bill, which is to safeguard your votes from those who may criticize you for voting a certain way and to prevent peer pressure or harassment from interfering with everyone's right to vote for who they please.

If someone was being harrassed because of who they vote for that would be against the code of conduct, In addition, freedom of speech and assembly are fundamental rights of the constitution.

If people feel like they don't want their vote to be publicly avaliable feel free to vote for the bill, however I personally have no issue with my vote being public. A system where these aren't avaliable post-election would be more susceptible to corruption. In the order of transparency I personally think it's important they are published.

Yodle, Puttt, Vordoslavia

New United Common-Lands wrote:If someone was being harrassed because of who they vote for that would be against the code of conduct, In addition, freedom of speech and assembly are fundamental rights of the constitution.

If people feel like they don't want their vote to be publicly avaliable feel free to vote for the bill, however I personally have no issue with my vote being public. A system where these aren't avaliable post-election would be more susceptible to corruption. In the order of transparency I personally think it's important they are published.

yh, no names but percentages

Puttt, Vordoslavia, Mjau

Lemona wrote:I think my message for Tennessee was pretty clear

Alright bro, last chance, leave America, you are not American, you are dirty colonialist trash that doesn't belong in Americas

Puttt, Vordoslavia

Pyhdon wrote:yh, no names but percentages

If you don't want names to be published you should vote for Mjau's amendment. However, I am recommending against as I feel there's no reason the responses cannot be published in full as per my message above

Lemona, Puttt, Vordoslavia

New United Common-Lands wrote:If you don't want names to be published you should vote for Mjau's amendment. However, I am recommending against as I feel there's no reason the responses cannot be published in full as per my message above

I wanna add an amendment to the constitution to make Gen Alpha phrases illegal

Yodle

Vordoslavia wrote:I wanna add an amendment to the constitution to make Gen Alpha phrases illegal

ok

ask atg

he helped me make my resolution

Vordoslavia

Pyhdon wrote:ok

ask atg

he helped me make my resolution

ill vote against

Vordoslavia

New United Common-Lands wrote:If you don't want names to be published you should vote for Mjau's amendment. However, I am recommending against as I feel there's no reason the responses cannot be published in full as per my message above

I like may security...

Vordoslavia

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Vordoslavia wrote:I wanna add an amendment to the constitution to make Gen Alpha phrases illegal

I would vote against. But hypothetically, you would need to remove the right to freedom of speech, or add this as a rule to the Code of Conduct

Vordoslavia, Mjau

Pyhdon wrote:yh, no names but percentages

I also believe that should be the case, so vote for the Secret Ballot Amendment 👍

Vordoslavia

New United Common-Lands wrote:I would vote against. But hypothetically, you would need to remove the right to freedom of speech, or add this as a rule to the Code of Conduct

COC it is!

Tennessean Empire wrote:Alright bro, last chance, leave America, you are not American, you are dirty colonialist trash that doesn't belong in Americas

he's from chicago

I have American Citizenship because of an uncle

Lemona, Vordoslavia

Ive also got UK, Canadian, and Bengali (where I was born) citizenship

Vordoslavia

Pyhdon wrote:Ive also got UK, Canadian, and Bengali (where I was born) citizenship

How’d you get Canadian citizenship

Did you live there?

Puttt, Vordoslavia

Post self-deleted by Lemona.

Tennessean Empire wrote:Alright bro, last chance, leave America, you are not American, you are dirty colonialist trash that doesn't belong in Americas

bud is not him 💀💀💀

Vordoslavia

New United Common-Lands wrote:If you don't want names to be published you should vote for Mjau's amendment. However, I am recommending against as I feel there's no reason the responses cannot be published in full as per my message above

facts

New United Common-Lands, Vordoslavia

Vordoslavia wrote:I wanna add an amendment to the constitution to make Gen Alpha phrases illegal

Bro is not the skibidi sigma

Vordoslavia

Lemona wrote:Bro is not the skibidi sigma

He ain’t no skibidi sigma, and don’t we have the freedom of speech here?

Vordoslavia

Lemona wrote:How’d you get Canadian citizenship

Did you live there?

for 4 years, yh

Vordoslavia

Lemona wrote:Bro is not the skibidi sigma

tru

Lemona wrote:bud is not him 💀💀💀

tru

anyway... I will get to colonising maybe...

Vordoslavia

and if you try to stop me, I will tell everyone on my yt channel to join NationStates and start making meme that are cringe

Vordoslavia

America The Greater wrote:hello!

Hi!

How are you?

Vordoslavia

Lemona wrote:

😳😳😳

Ms. X would agree

Vordoslavia

Vladyslak wrote:Ms. X would agree

& #127846;

Vordoslavia

bro it just makes it the emoji

Vordoslavia

🤣

Yodle, Vordoslavia

I NEED VIDEO IDEA

Yodle, Vordoslavia, Western Arba Fir

Pyhdon wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/nation=pyhdon/detail=factbook/id=2011774

My res! vote for!

No comment on the positions in the resolution, but I’m very impressed with the process flow (it’s something that would work well for a lot of other aspects of the regional government) and the amount of work you put into writing the legislation!

Vordoslavia

Pyhdon wrote:Ive also got UK, Canadian, and Bengali (where I was born) citizenship

wow! Are you a UN diplomat? quadruple citizenship?

Puttt, Vordoslavia

Pyhdon wrote:I NEED VIDEO IDEA

Make a video of you mewing to Skibidi toilet

Lemona, Vordoslavia, Tavistalia

UPDATE: CPS and the county Sheriff questioned my mom today. We're getting closer.

Vordoslavia

Kendrick lamar

Vordoslavia

Kanyes Paradise wrote:Make a video of you mewing to Skibidi toilet

Great idea

Vordoslavia

My dog eat pup cup

Vordoslavia

Lemona wrote:My dog eat pup cup

yummy

The first Parliamentary debate has officially concluded. We didn't really break any new ground over the past few hours, so my summary from earlier today is still where we stand on the bills at hand. The bill authors now have a period of two days to make any changes to their bills, and if they do change anything, I'll report about it in detail here and on the Discord so all MPs are aware. Otherwise, I'll see you all on the 30th for the beginning of the actual vote.

Vordoslavia, Flomonga, Mjau, Western Arba Fir

Alright, lets try socialism again, but with good economy this time

Mjau

Vordoslavia wrote:Alright, lets try socialism again, but with good economy this time
Vladyslak is on its way, I promise

Vordoslavia, Mjau

Vordoslavia wrote:I wanna add an amendment to the constitution to make Gen Alpha phrases illegal

No cap?

Vordoslavia

America The Greater wrote:The first Parliamentary debate has officially concluded. We didn't really break any new ground over the past few hours, so my summary from earlier today is still where we stand on the bills at hand. The bill authors now have a period of two days to make any changes to their bills, and if they do change anything, I'll report about it in detail here and on the Discord so all MPs are aware. Otherwise, I'll see you all on the 30th for the beginning of the actual vote..

Looking forward to getting over my cold and actually being able to participate.

Yodle, America The Greater, Puttt, Vordoslavia

Flomonga wrote:Looking forward to getting over my cold and actually being able to participate.

Hope you feel better soon!

Yodle, Puttt, Vordoslavia, Flomonga

Hmmm… How can I make my people more patriotic. I need ideas.

Yodle, Vordoslavia

Seychellia wrote:Hmmm… How can I make my people more patriotic. I need ideas.

Parades and clarity I think. Do what overall public wants in general. Or show your might (technological, military, etc.), that works too. I think at least. Don't take my word on it.

Yodle, Vordoslavia

Apropos, anyone knows general ways to effectively decrease primitiveness and improve economy without..[I]unwarranted[/I]..side-effects?

Krayo29 wrote:wow! Are you a UN diplomat? quadruple citizenship?

My dad is

Yodle, Puttt, Vordoslavia, Western Arba Fir

Pyhdon wrote:My dad is

Cool

Vordoslavia, Mjau

Pyhdon wrote:My dad is

Thats really cool Pyhdon!

Giving more rights to women because you are a good leader: 🤡

Giving rights to women to increase your SA: 🥶🤫🧏

Krayo29

Also one last thing I before I get to school:

Socialistic Britain

hehehaw it has been a week since map update

Achrom wrote:Apropos, anyone knows general ways to effectively decrease primitiveness and improve economy without..[I]unwarranted[/I]..side-effects?

Ok so theres this thing called education (Public of course), and it improves your scientific advancement.

That should help stop people praising animals as gods.

Vordoslavia

Seychellia wrote:Ok so theres this thing called education (Public of course), and it improves your scientific advancement.

That should help stop people praising animals as gods.

Or maybe that's just what they wanna do ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

you should claim Seychelles on the map!

Seychellia wrote:Ok so theres this thing called education (Public of course), and it improves your scientific advancement.

That should help stop people praising animals as gods.

My education's pretty good and scientific advancement is decent (both in top 30% worldwide if I remember correctly). Yet I'm still in top 5% on primitiveness. So yeah it's more like what Vordoslavia said

Vordoslavia

Achrom wrote:My education's pretty good and scientific advancement is decent (both in top 30% worldwide if I remember correctly). Yet I'm still in top 5% on primitiveness. So yeah it's more like what Vordoslavia said

ofc am right, am just built different

my SA is in top 10% but still rising

Vordoslavia wrote:Also one last thing I before I get to school:

Socialistic Britain

hehehaw it has been a week since map update

yes

it's supposed to update every 1 to 2 weeks

Vordoslavia

Vordoslavia wrote:Or maybe that's just what they wanna do ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

you should claim Seychelles on the map!

yh

Vordoslavia

Socialistic Britain wrote:yes

it's supposed to update every 1 to 2 weeks

its been one week

Vordoslavia wrote:its been one week

Or it can be 2 weeks

Socialistic Britain, Vordoslavia

Lkandria wrote:Or it can be 2 weeks

Its been 9 days...

[I]or it may be because I have been travelling[/I]

Vordoslavia

Krayo29 wrote:wow! Are you a UN diplomat? quadruple citizenship?

I wish I had quintuple citizenship

Yodle, Vordoslavia

I amFlomonga puppet. This is just a United States simulation project im working on.

Yodle, America The Greater, Puttt, Vordoslavia

Socialistic Britain wrote:yes

it's supposed to update every 1 to 2 weeks

It’s been 2 weeks since I first asked for Portugal

I asked a few days again 😁

Vordoslavia

Puttt wrote:I wish I had quintuple citizenship

I’m not going many places to need quintuple citizenship

Puttt, Vordoslavia

Pyhdon

You need a dipped beef, like really dipped

Need a Chicago dog

Go to Portillo’s for both if you want

Sadly not many games to go to you probably wouldn’t want to

I mean there is baseball and basketball and hockey but no football (American)

There is soccer too (regular football) but that doesn’t really matter

And don’t put ANY ketchup on your hot dog

If you want ketchup you can have it on the side with fries

That’s all

Idk if you’re still there or even went there yet but that’s some advice

Also, your going north side, good

Avoid south side

Vordoslavia

I mean I love the white Sox but it’s best to leave the south side by itself

And the beans under construction so no that

Vordoslavia

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