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Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland wrote:But socialism prevents private companies from moving up. It's government force.

The government controls big business, so most of the money goes to them.

Therefore, you are being a hypocrite when you argue that capitalism is an oligarchy. Because socialism is an oligarchy.

The money doesn’t go to governments it goes to the lower-middle class and the poor that need the money instead of the rich just getting money they don’t need.

Partisan Italy

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland wrote:1. The capitalist system is democratic because it allows us to vote for which products to buy, who to buy from, and provides incentive.

2. The entire world was made of dictatorships during colonial times.

It’s easy to call capitalism democratic until you notice the fact that right-wing countries appeal more toward big companies and religious fanatics instead of the people.

There’s nothing democratic about having a leader hellbent on shilling out for corporate favour or workers having no control how they manage the workplace they require for survival. And even though I do consider myself to be a social democrat I do believe that full-socialism is way more favourable than any form of capitalism. Personally, I think a mixed economy slowly progressing toward socialism would be our best bet.

Socialism doesn’t cause dictatorship, it’s the human greed that does.

Partisan Italy

Aya Democratic Republic wrote:The money doesn’t go to governments it goes to the lower-middle class and the poor that need the money instead of the rich just getting money they don’t need.

That's not what we see in socialist countries. In socialist countries, people are very poor, having to wait long lines for rolls of toilet paper. Just look at Vuvuzuela and North Korea. And don't tell me that "iT wAsNt rEaL sOc1aLiSm". Because it was, and it didn't work.

Ardeyn wrote:It’s easy to call capitalism democratic until you notice the fact that right-wing countries appeal more toward big companies and religious fanatics instead of the people.

There’s nothing democratic about having a leader hellbent on shilling out for corporate favour or workers having no control how they manage the workplace they require for survival. And even though I do consider myself to be a social democrat I do believe that full-socialism is way more favourable than any form of capitalism. Personally, I think a mixed economy slowly progressing toward socialism would be our best bet.

Socialism doesn’t cause dictatorship, it’s the human greed that does.

1. Most workers don't want to control their companies.

2. It's incentive to make money. Many small businesses also rely on capitalism, not just big corporations. So, ironically, you are stripping some people of their income.

I don't get why people believe in a system that has proven to fail time and time again.

There isn't a

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland wrote:I don't get why people believe in a system that has proven to fail time and time again.

A system that has proven to fail time and time again is the exact definition of Capitalism

New United Common-Lands

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland wrote:I don't get why people believe in a system that has proven to fail time and time again.

Exactly, capitalism. Failing to deal with technological unemployment, global poverty, societal aging, climate change, resource scarcity.

Partisan Italy

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland wrote:But socialism prevents private companies from moving up. It's government force.

The government controls big business, so most of the money goes to them.

Therefore, you are being a hypocrite when you argue that capitalism is an oligarchy. Because socialism is an oligarchy.

When private companies move up, they become so economically and politically powerfull that they can manipulate markets and prices all over the world, decide in which country pay taxes, monopolise entire sectors and productions, corrupt politicians and governments, pressure States to make wars or coup d'etat for their interests, steel hundreds of thousends of jobs relocating in countries with semi-slave workforce, have profits superior to the GDP of entire countries, receive State aids because they are "too big to fail", pay scientists in order to have false research papers favorable to their interests... I can go on to the infinite.

New United Common-Lands

Partisan Italy wrote:There isn't a A system that has proven to fail time and time again is the exact definition of Capitalism

Have you seen capitalist countries? I live in a capitalist country, and I'm just fine! Appreciate what you have because of capitalism!

New United Common-Lands wrote:Exactly, capitalism. Failing to deal with technological unemployment, global poverty, societal aging, climate change, resource scarcity.

1. Capitalism saved 80% of the world from starvation.

2. Encouraging immigration reverses societal aging.

3. Resources are abundant under capitalism, because people have incentive to make money from it.

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And if you think that only a government can be authoritarian and not a private company, you make a very big mistake: for exemple, the Commercial Companies of colonial times, that were private companies, could mobilize armies of mercenaries and conquer entire countries and peoples in order to steel their resources and lands and to enslave them. King Leopold of Belgium's Congo Free State also was a private company owned by him.

Today companies like Facebook or Google, or free app developer companies, spy on people and sell their private and intimate informations to the highest bidder, also governments and secret servicies, but also other companies that, potentially, might blackmail workers or refuse to employ them.

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland wrote:Have you seen capitalist countries? I live in a capitalist country, and I'm just fine! Appreciate what you have because of capitalism!

What about the people in poverty because of capitalism? What about the people starving because of capitalism? What about the people dying because of capitalism? I will only appreciate the comfortable life I have if poverty isn’t an issue. No one should be comfortable with this broken system while thousands starve.

Partisan Italy

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland wrote:Have you seen capitalist countries? I live in a capitalist country, and I'm just fine! Appreciate what you have because of capitalism!

You forget that the entire world is a single system and that rich countries are rich because a lot of other countries are very poor. Also in rich countries there are enormous inequalities an a lot of poverty. This is capitalism

Partisan Italy wrote:When private companies move up, they become so economically and politically powerfull that they can manipulate markets and prices all over the world, decide in which country pay taxes, monopolise entire sectors and productions, corrupt politicians and governments, pressure States to make wars or coup d'etat for their interests, steel hundreds of thousends of jobs relocating in countries with semi-slave workforce, have profits superior to the GDP of entire countries, receive State aids because they are "too big to fail", pay scientists in order to have false research papers favorable to their interests... I can go on to the infinite.

1. In socialism, one institution holds all those roles, the tyrannical and ginormous government.

They manipulate markets and prices.

They exploit people with high taxes to fund their huge government.

They monopolize the entire economy.

Many socialist governments are very corrupt as to deny people a decent living.

The government's workforce is semi-slave, all employees are government employees.

The government has more money than the people.

They exploit people with high tax rates to fund their big governments.

And spread propaganda to brainwash their citizens.

Partisan Italy wrote:You forget that the entire world is a single system and that rich countries are rich because a lot of other countries are very poor. Also in rich countries there are enormous inequalities an a lot of poverty. This is capitalism

In capitalism, everyone is unequally prosperous.

In socialism, everyone is equally poor.

It should matter how much the people are making, not how much the rich make in proportion. The middle class in America is well-off, and can afford their basic needs.

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland wrote:1. In socialism, one institution holds all those roles, the tyrannical and ginormous government.

They manipulate markets and prices.

They exploit people with high taxes to fund their huge government.

They monopolize the entire economy.

Many socialist governments are very corrupt as to deny people a decent living.

The government's workforce is semi-slave, all employees are government employees.

The government has more money than the people.

They exploit people with high tax rates to fund their big governments.

And spread propaganda to brainwash their citizens.

Ok, so which is the difference between Soviet Union under Stalin or North Korea and a multinational company or a big bank? You are defending a regime attacking another.

Also you consider Socialism only as the totalitarian State model, but I brought you exemples of functionig libertarian and democratic Socialism.

Socialism is defined as the ending of the exploitation of man by man: only this is really Socialism, not regimes calling themself "socialists" or "communists".

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland wrote:In capitalism, everyone is unequally prosperous.

In socialism, everyone is equally poor.

It should matter how much the people are making, not how much the rich make in proportion. The middle class in America is well-off, and can afford their basic needs.

Ok, so visit a favela in India or Brazil, or a country like Sierra Leone. Are they "unequally prosperous" or are they poor?

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland wrote:1. In socialism, one institution holds all those roles, the tyrannical and ginormous government.

They manipulate markets and prices.

They exploit people with high taxes to fund their huge government.

They monopolize the entire economy.

Many socialist governments are very corrupt as to deny people a decent living.

The government's workforce is semi-slave, all employees are government employees.

The government has more money than the people.

They exploit people with high tax rates to fund their big governments.

And spread propaganda to brainwash their citizens.

Propaganda? Last I checked our dear republican President Donald Trump utilised much of that to rally fascists by his side and need we forget about Hitler? And what about all the other right-wing tyrants? It doesn’t matter what ideology you’re apart of because propaganda is everywhere.

Partisan Italy

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland wrote:In capitalism, everyone is unequally prosperous.

In socialism, everyone is equally poor.

It should matter how much the people are making, not how much the rich make in proportion. The middle class in America is well-off, and can afford their basic needs.

And what about the lower class?

Partisan Italy

Also private companies use propaganda: it is called marketing

Partisan Italy wrote:And if you think that only a government can be authoritarian and not a private company, you make a very big mistake: for exemple, the Commercial Companies of colonial times, that were private companies, could mobilize armies of mercenaries and conquer entire countries and peoples in order to steel their resources and lands and to enslave them. King Leopold of Belgium's Congo Free State also was a private company owned by him.

Today companies like Facebook or Google, or free app developer companies, spy on people and sell their private and intimate informations to the highest bidder, also governments and secret servicies, but also other companies that, potentially, might blackmail workers or refuse to employ them.

This is not the fault of capitalism. Socialist governments can easily do this as well.

And without capitalism, we wouldn't have Facebook or Google. We would have a backwards society in which there were no technological advancements, because of a lack of incentive to sell them. The product you are using to play this simulation was made under capitalism.

There's a funny joke out there, it says:

What did socialists use before candles?

Electricity.

Ardeyn wrote:What about the people in poverty because of capitalism? What about the people starving because of capitalism? What about the people dying because of capitalism? I will only appreciate the comfortable life I have if poverty isn’t an issue. No one should be comfortable with this broken system while thousands starve.

In communism and socialism, everyone starves.

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland wrote:In communism and socialism, everyone starves.

Socialism helps the middle class, and the poor not the wealthy and corporations.

In capitalism everyone gets the worst except for the rich.

Partisan Italy

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland wrote:This is not the fault of capitalism. Socialist governments can easily do this as well.

And without capitalism, we wouldn't have Facebook or Google. We would have a backwards society in which there were no technological advancements, because of a lack of incentive to sell them. The product you are using to play this simulation was made under capitalism.

There's a funny joke out there, it says:

What did socialists use before candles?

Electricity.

If capitalism was the maker of google and Facebook by god I wish it was never invented.

And of course our devices were made under capitalism. We live in capitalist nations.

And speaking of a backwards society, there are many capitalist nations that are just that. Russia, Japan, and Poland spring to mind. And although they might not be backwards technologically, they certainly are socially.

Partisan Italy wrote:Ok, so which is the difference between Soviet Union under Stalin or North Korea and a multinational company or a big bank? You are defending a regime attacking another.

Also you consider Socialism only as the totalitarian State model, but I brought you exemples of functionig libertarian and democratic Socialism.

Socialism is defined as the ending of the exploitation of man by man: only this is really Socialism, not regimes calling themself "socialists" or "communists".

1. In socialism, the government exploits the people by giving them not enough resources because the money isn't enough in a zero sum pie.

2. Also Vuvuzuelan socialism started off as democratic, but quickly became tyrannical.

Ardeyn wrote:If capitalism was the maker of google and Facebook by god I wish it was never invented.

And of course our devices were made under capitalism. We live in capitalist nations.

And speaking of a backwards society, there are many capitalist nations that are just that. Russia, Japan, and Poland spring to mind. And although they might not be backwards technologically, they certainly are socially.

Define "socially backwards".

Ardeyn wrote:And what about the lower class?

The lower class has been eradicated in America thanks to capitalism.

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland wrote:1. In socialism, the government exploits the people by giving them not enough resources because the money isn't enough in a zero sum pie.

2. Also Vuvuzuelan socialism started off as democratic, but quickly became tyrannical.

Ok I know your gonna say this is not a excuse. But,

THAT WASNT SOCIALISM.

Partisan Italy

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland wrote:Define "socially backwards".

Russia outlaws gay marriage, the government of Poland recently outlawed abortion (which resulted in mass riots and them making it legal once again✊) and LGBT in Japan is just generally frowned upon. So, in summary being socially backwards is believing that certain human beings deserve less rights than others simply because they are different.

Partisan Italy

Aya Democratic Republic wrote:Socialism helps the middle class, and the poor not the wealthy and corporations.

In capitalism everyone gets the worst except for the rich.

Wrong. In capitalism, the middle class is well-off and the poor class is eradicated. Look at America.

In socialism, everyone is poor. Look at Vuvuzela or North Korea.

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland wrote:Wrong. In capitalism, the middle class is well-off and the poor class is eradicated. Look at America.

In socialism, everyone is poor. Look at Vuvuzela or North Korea.

Ok first stop calling Venezuela Vuvuzela and secondly,

THAT WASNT REAL SOCIALISM AND THIS ISNT A EXCUSE.

Aya Democratic Republic wrote:Ok I know your gonna say this is not a excuse. But,

THAT WASNT SOCIALISM.

Again with that?! You can't keep saying a weak talking point and expect to win a debate.

Aya Democratic Republic wrote:Ok first stop calling Venezuela Vuvuzela and secondly,

THAT WASNT REAL SOCIALISM AND THIS ISNT A EXCUSE.

IT WAS REAL SOCIALISM, AND IT DIDN'T WORK!!! DEAL WITH IT!

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland wrote:This is not the fault of capitalism. Socialist governments can easily do this as well.

And without capitalism, we wouldn't have Facebook or Google. We would have a backwards society in which there were no technological advancements, because of a lack of incentive to sell them. The product you are using to play this simulation was made under capitalism.

There's a funny joke out there, it says:

What did socialists use before candles?

Electricity.

This is the fault of capitalism, because, like Marx tought, the accumulation of capital always starts with a theft: colonialism, land grabbing, imposed austerity, massacre of American Indians, english enclosure acts are all exemples of this.

Cotton grown in colonial India or cultivated by slaves in America fostered the industrial revolution, rubber exctracted in Congo Free State, in conditions of slavery and with massacres that resulted in a genocide, fostered the automobile boom.

Workers violently separated from their common lands (means of production) with enclosure acts in England or with land grabbing in South East Asia went to work in factories. Land grabbing is separating workers from their means of production (common lands) also in Africa today.

Ardeyn wrote:Russia outlaws gay marriage, the government of Poland recently outlawed abortion (which resulted in mass riots and them making it legal once again✊) and LGBT in Japan is just generally frowned upon. So, in summary being socially backwards is believing that certain human beings deserve less rights than others simply because they are different.

We are talking about economic issues here, not social issues.

And abortion is murder, by the way.

Gay is okay though.

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland wrote:IT WAS REAL SOCIALISM, AND IT DIDN'T WORK!!! DEAL WITH IT!

Look the government controls everything in Venezuela & North Korea that isn’t socialism that’s a dictatorship.

Partisan Italy

Partisan Italy wrote:This is the fault of capitalism, because, like Marx tought, the accumulation of capital always starts with a theft: colonialism, land grabbing, imposed austerity, massacre of American Indians, english enclosure acts are all exemples of this.

Cotton grown in colonial India or cultivated by slaves in America fostered the industrial revolution, rubber exctracted in Congo Free State, in conditions of slavery and with massacres that resulted in a genocide, fostered the automobile boom.

Workers violently separated from their common lands (means of production) with enclosure acts in England or with land grabbing in South East Asia went to work in factories. Land grabbing is separating workers from their means of production (common lands) also in Africa today.

This has since changed. Laws have said that you can't treat workers as such, and placed a minimum wage. It's not capitalism to blame.

Aya Democratic Republic wrote:Look the government controls everything in Venezuela & North Korea that isn’t socialism that’s a dictatorship.

You think that socialism is exempt from being a dictatorship? HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!! Weak argument! It's that same "iT wAsNt rEaL sOc1aLiSm" argument in disguise!

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland wrote:You think that socialism is exempt from being a dictatorship? HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!! Weak argument! It's that same "iT wAsNt rEaL sOc1aLiSm" argument in disguise!

I am not saying socialism can’t be a dictatorship I’m just saying they are not socialist and Its not a excuse for the 10 trillionth time

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland wrote:This is not the fault of capitalism. Socialist governments can easily do this as well.

And without capitalism, we wouldn't have Facebook or Google. We would have a backwards society in which there were no technological advancements, because of a lack of incentive to sell them. The product you are using to play this simulation was made under capitalism.

There's a funny joke out there, it says:

What did socialists use before candles?

Electricity.

Scientific advancement existed also before Capitalism

Aya Democratic Republic wrote:I am not saying socialism can’t be a dictatorship I’m just saying they are not socialist and Its not a excuse for the 10 trillionth time

You can't use this same argument over again and win. If you would like to use this weak and debunked argument, then go ahead, make my day.

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland wrote:You can't use this same argument over again and win. If you would like to use this weak and debunked argument, then go ahead, make my day.

Tell me your definition of socialism.

Partisan Italy

Partisan Italy wrote:Scientific advancement existed also before Capitalism

But capitalism accelerated it by providing us with the internet.

Aya Democratic Republic wrote:Tell me your definition of socialism.

I already told you.

When business is controlled by the government and money is distributed how the government wants it to be.

I go to sleep, next round tomorrow.

Good night friends, comrades and political rivals!

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland wrote:I already told you.

When business is controlled by the government and money is distributed how the government wants it to be.

And the government is democratically-elected it gets distributed democratically.

Aya Democratic Republic wrote:And the government is democratically-elected it gets distributed democratically.

Well socialism certainly hasn't been committing to that. Hypocritical.

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland wrote:We are talking about economic issues here, not social issues.

And abortion is murder, by the way.

Gay is okay though.

(A fetus does not scientifically become a human being which can feel pain until 20-27 weeks of pregnancy, so an abortion before that time period is not murder. And it never truly is murder until it gains personhood.)

Ah, but I digress.

In terms of economics there are many different forms of socialism and society has vastly changed since the times of the soviets. The Communism utilised by them is far outdated, and there has since been better versions of socialism created, but not yet fully tested. The Nordic countries are ruled over by democratic socialist and social democratic political parties, but are not officially socialist. But they also aren’t capitalist. The Nordic countries are statistically the happiest nations in the world and they deny capitalism. Marxist-Leninism and the human lust for power is the problem, not socialism. The freer the market the freer the people, but it still needs to be restricted because of greedy corporations.

Ardeyn wrote:(A fetus does not scientifically become a human being which can feel pain until 20-27 weeks of pregnancy, so an abortion before that time period is not murder. And it never truly is murder until it gains personhood.)

Ah, but I digress.

In terms of economics there are many different forms of socialism and society has vastly changed since the times of the soviets. The Communism utilised by them is far outdated, and there has since been better versions of socialism created, but not yet fully tested. The Nordic countries are ruled over by democratic socialist and social democratic political parties, but are not officially socialist. But they also aren’t capitalist. The Nordic countries are statistically the happiest nations in the world and they deny capitalism. Marxist-Leninism and the human lust for power is the problem, not socialism. The freer the market the freer the people, but it still needs to be restricted because of greedy corporations. Now I’m afraid I must bail out of this debate too for my girlfriend vies for my attention, leaving only Aya in my stead.

Chow all 👋

The nordic countries are some of the freest-market countries in the world. It is very easy to start a business there.

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland wrote:The nordic countries are some of the freest-market countries in the world. It is very easy to start a business there.

It’s easy to start a business in a socialist country. It doesn’t restrict your ability to start one.

Aya Democratic Republic wrote:It’s easy to start a business in a socialist country. It doesn’t restrict your ability to start one.

Nope. This objects to the very ideology of socialism, in which all business is controlled by the state.

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland wrote:Nope. This objects to the very ideology of socialism, in which all business is controlled by the state.

Socialism is defined as:

a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

See? It’s regulated by the community not just some wealthy CEO paying minimum wage to its employees.

Partisan Italy

Aya Democratic Republic wrote:Socialism is defined as:

a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

See? It’s regulated by the community not just some wealthy CEO paying minimum wage to its employees.

And how does the commmunity control companies?

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland wrote:1. Capitalism saved 80% of the world from starvation.

2. Encouraging immigration reverses societal aging.

3. Resources are abundant under capitalism, because people have incentive to make money from it.

1. And yet 740 million people around the world still live in destitution, World’s 26 richest people own as much as poorest 50%, wealth can be shared through a socialist system. Wealth should be defined by how hard you work yet in Capitalism it’s defined by the private school you went to or having a silver spoon

2. Immigration cuts worker wages if uncontrolled, but not every country in the world can encourage immigration.. that is a short term solution for western countries which is filling the gap.

3. Resource scarcity means taking everything from our environment so there’s no oil, coal, metals left... which is accentuated by the demands for businesses to make a profit

Partisan Italy

New United Common-Lands wrote:1. And yet 740 million people around the world still live in destitution, World’s 26 richest people own as much as poorest 50%, wealth can be shared through a socialist system. Wealth should be defined by how hard you work yet in Capitalism it’s defined by the private school you went to or having a silver spoon

2. Immigration cuts worker wages if uncontrolled, but not every country in the world can encourage immigration.. that is a short term solution for western countries which is filling the gap.

3. Resource scarcity means taking everything from our environment so there’s no oil, coal, metals left... which is accentuated by the demands for businesses to make a profit

Most of those 740 million are in Africa, a land plagued by dictatorships and bad geography. And most billionaires aren't born rich.

Automation is an alternative to immigration, as you can have them work otherwise minimum wage jobs.

Renewable energy is a great alternative to oil and coal, because it's renewable.

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland wrote:Most of those 740 million are in Africa, a land plagued by dictatorships and bad geography. And most billionaires aren't born rich.

Automation is an alternative to immigration, as you can have them work otherwise minimum wage jobs.

Renewable energy is a great alternative to oil and coal, because it's renewable.

We support renewable energy but oil and coal are being used by You Know It! Large corporations and gazillionaires.

Partisan Italy, The Green Environment

Aya Democratic Republic wrote:It’s easy to start a business in a socialist country. It doesn’t restrict your ability to start one.

i dont really think so

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland wrote:Most of those 740 million are in Africa, a land plagued by dictatorships and bad geography. And most billionaires aren't born rich.

Automation is an alternative to immigration, as you can have them work otherwise minimum wage jobs.

Renewable energy is a great alternative to oil and coal, because it's renewable.

Renewable energy is a great alternative to oil and coal, because it's renewable. - Tell the major Corporation about that. Developing software to get every last piece of oil out of the ground. ofc rewenable energy is better but its a free market therefore anything that makes money is viable.....

Partisan Italy

New United Common-Lands wrote:Renewable energy is a great alternative to oil and coal, because it's renewable. - Tell the major Corporation about that. Developing software to get every last piece of oil out of the ground. ofc rewenable energy is better but its a free market therefore anything that makes money is viable.....

Only 3% of oil is available using current technology. With better fracking technology, we can reach further.

I'm happy that we agree at least on one thing: renewable technology is the only chance we have to save humanity from climate change.

Santu Surgo, Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland, The Green Environment

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland wrote:And how does the commmunity control companies?

Self management by the workers

Partisan Italy wrote:Self management by the workers

But most workers don't want to control their companies.

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland wrote:But most workers don't want to control their companies.

Well then they can just do what there CEOs tell them to do if they don’t wanna control them.

Did term limits and political freedoms fell. Incredible

Yodle

Lkandria wrote:Did term limits and political freedoms fell. Incredible

I mean your not allowing people to elect people again if they still like them and there is no alternative.

Yodle

Thanks to everyone who voted for the "Universal Healthcare Act" :)

The Green Environment

hello

Partisan Italy, New United Common-Lands, The Green Environment

New United Common-Lands wrote:Thanks to everyone who voted for the "Universal Healthcare Act" :)

Your welcome :)

New United Common-Lands

Very much inactivity....

Partisan Italy, Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland, New United Common-Lands

how long until our election

New United Common-Lands wrote:how long until our election

I don’t know, but I think it may be pointless Becuz based on the Census almost everyone is ok with the status quo.

Partisan Italy, Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland

Aya Democratic Republic wrote:I don’t know, but I think it may be pointless Becuz based on the Census almost everyone is ok with the status quo.

true i guess

Yodle

but thats the whole point of an election

Yodle

How is everyone?

Yodle, The Green Environment

New United Common-Lands wrote:How is everyone?

Very good, thanks!

Yodle, Lunmania, New United Common-Lands, The Green Environment

New United Common-Lands wrote:How is everyone?

Im Good! hby?

Yodle, The Green Environment

Sorry for my inactivity lads, work has been busy as of late

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland

Lunmania wrote:Im Good! hby?

Good as well! Getting tired of being in Lockdown but otherwise ok!

Yodle, Partisan Italy, The Green Environment

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Partisan Italy, The Green Environment

im still here dont remove me

Yodle

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Yep! We Are Always Here For Help Also You Put Nation In Front Of [Nation]Ohiawa

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Everything has been feeling a bit stale

Is that just me?

Socialistic Britain wrote:Everything has been feeling a bit stale

Is that just me?

I feel it too

yeah no me too. feels like as soon as i knew how this game worked it became more of a grinding game than nation management. i guess when you can 'max out' stats in your country it doesnt feel like its about making YOUR ideal nation at all. i wish there was a bit more complexity to it

Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland

Femboyan wrote:yeah no me too. feels like as soon as i knew how this game worked it became more of a grinding game than nation management. i guess when you can 'max out' stats in your country it doesnt feel like its about making YOUR ideal nation at all. i wish there was a bit more complexity to it

I mean we can still chat?

Mars Hotel

New United Common-Lands wrote:Welcome Mars Hotel

Hey you changed your flag! Your not Yemen anymore!

New United Common-Lands wrote:Welcome Mars Hotel

Many thanks!

New United Common-Lands

Mars Hotel wrote:Many thanks!

I love your nation!

Mars Hotel

Aya Democratic Republic wrote:Hey you changed your flag! Your not Yemen anymore!

Yeah i finally found a flag design that i liked :)

New United Common-Lands wrote:Yeah i finally found a flag design that i liked :)

Brings up the image of a sci-fi communist state for me. Perhaps that’s just because of the colour scheme

New United Common-Lands

Hiiiii owo

Lunmania, Ardeyn, The Green Environment, Mars Hotel

Siuslaw wrote:Hiiiii owo

Hi!

The Green Environment

Hi, every new arrives!

The Green Environment, Mars Hotel

Hello TRTHNBB friends! ^_^

There are only two days left to submit your photos to this year’s Forest Photo Contest! Submissions will close on January 21st at midnight GMT. Anyone from a region that has an embassy with us can submit photos.

If you haven’t dug out your best photos yet or snapped some great new ones for the Contest, I highly suggest you do so. We have four great categories this year!

You can find all the full information here:

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1478310

You can head over to Forest's forums (https://forest.freeflarum.com/t/photo-contest) to submit your photos, or you can telegram links to the images to me.

Happy submitting! :)

- Mount Seymour

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