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Region: The Region That Has No Big Banks
I Think Just Copying A YouTube Video Wouldnt Be A True Anthem
Wait A Minute In Authoritarianism I Have 600 MilliStalins Does That Mean Im 60% Like Stalin?
Nah I think thats just a joke made by Max. A lot of rankings are like that, plus youre only 49th in the region for authoritarianism. 60% Stalin would be a lot lower
Oh Ok!
In the tune of the Soviet anthem:
It's very stupid
to give tax breaks to the rich
that's why we're fighting
The top 1%!
We will help the working people
The rich will have a steep hill
Helping the poor
With a New York Accent!
Preservation of Welfare!
We will all have free healthcare!
No more tax breaks
to the top 1 %!
We will all feel the great Bern!
It's equality that we yearn!
I'm asking you
for financial support!!!!!!!!!
New United Common-Lands
Its Almost Perfect Just Theres A Few Parts That Dont Rhyme.
Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland
It's okay, I have 1426.
So Your 140% Stalin According To The Game Lol
Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland
Welcome Squiggly Isles! Would you like to join the Travis Scott Borger Party?
Is It Just Me Or Is It Funny When You Just Keep Asking For People To Join The TSB.
Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland
I just came up with an idea we could use when the rp comes back
I was thinking what if we allowed people to create their own rp factions? People could create their own versions of NATO, the EU, or the UN, and would be able to control almost every aspect of the faction as well as write a factbook describing the factions origins and purpose, and factions could start wars with other factions
I'd be pretty interesting to have colossal wars in rp like WW1 & WW2
Obviously none of this could be implemented just yet but I think itd spice it up a ton
*Falls through ceiling.*
Greetings, comrades.
Depends on if they're corporations, or if they're coops/unions/local business. If the former, I'd say it's wrong, if the latter, I'd say it's ok.
Hello Osem howve you been
Osem
Listening to Bandiera Rossa.
I take it youve been grand then
Osem
You claim to be an enthusiastic supporter of Sanders and Socialism, yet you're a TERF and an authoritarian, warloving NazBol.
Curious.
Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland
Ok, how does the name "Socialist Union League" sound? Maybe just "Socialist Union" or "Socialist League"?
Id say the Socialist League but it really depends how much OCD you have. For example, the reason The Science Team is TST instead of ST is because all other parties have 3 letter acronyms and it triggers my OCD to only have 2 letters
Osem
Ah, FauxCD, an unpleasant experience indeed.
Oh! Socialist Union Rally!
Or maybe just Union Rally or Union League, because calling yourself socialist in the socialist region would be redundant...
If youre going with a Union you might also like the Union of Socialist Republics
Osem
That'd be country pretitle, I'm just thinking of political party names lol.
Fair fair
Id say the best name for a luxemburgist and council communist party that also wants to appeal to the wider masses would be the Socialist Union Rally
Which would be the SUR or sir
Osem
*and syndicalist party, too!
But yeah, I like the term Socialist Union Rally (Union Rally for short)!
I've made up my mind!
Time to spend hours on the factbook
At least I did anyway and its still not complete
Osem
This will prolly be my experience lol
I wish you luck then *tips hat* Id also say Im praying for you but I know the communists have never really been a fan of the whole religion thing
Osem
Plus Im an atheist myself but eh
Osem
Wait did I say something religious?
Nono
I was just commenting on the fact that the USSR denounced religion
Historical banter
Osem
Ah, the USSR.
Or, as I like to say:
"You were supposed to destroy the bourgeois, not join them!"
Santu Surgo, Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland
Ah I see youre a man of great taste
And by man I mean human in case I get cancelled for assuming gender
Osem
#CancelArdeyn
/s
(Besides, I'll never tell anyone on NS my gender.)
Gotta take your privacy seriously around here
FBI could be around any corner
Osem
Definitely Gonna Try Implementing That!
😂
Yep Its All The Experience Of Making A Political Party! Doing Hours Of Just Writing On A Page That Nobody Is Going To Read In The End!
New United Common-Lands
Hello New United Common Lands
I'm not a TERF!
Wait What Ideology Are You Though?
We're commies, just not progressive as the rest of you.
I Mean Not All Communists Are Progressive
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2015/oct/22/jon-voight/actor-jon-voight-says-progressive-just-another-wor/
[spoiler=Official Policies of the TSBP, written by "Peepeeland" themselves]"The Travis Scott Borger Party supports gender roles (women can still work if they want to) and LGB (No trans rights) Equality. We are pro-life and will illegalize abortion."
"The Travis Scott Borger Party does not support BLM"
"Official foreign policy for the Travis Scott Borger Party consists of a militaristic approach with creating conflicts and killing our enemies in order to solve those conflicts. The objective of the party is to spread our region's influence across the world through buying property of other regions that have debt."
"Supporting the colonization of new and third world nations is also on the agenda"
" The Travis Scott Borger Party supports going to war to extend our influence. Any type of preemptive war or unprovoked war would be responded with NUKING 'EM! This party supports a more militaristic policy when it comes to foreign aggression and threats."
"We take a region in debt, make an offer to buy their land, and gradually, our region will have a colonial empire."[/spoiler]
You're not just a TERF, but you're a reactionary imperialist no better than Britain, and you support violence and Nuclear Armageddon as an alternative to peace.
People of the Region, The Socialist Union Rally supports a peaceful society where all forms of life, so long as you do not harm your fellow worker, will be accepted by society. The SUR promises a society that is For the Workers and By the Workers, not for generals and reactionaries! When Election Time arrives and the Party is officially formed, Vote SUR! Prevent Reactionaryism!
Ardeyn
I Hear A Political Debate Incoming!
Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland, Osem
Osem, isn't your party the same as all the others? Nobody's gonna vote for you like that! You might as well join the DSP!
Its Actually Because He Hasnt Edited It Much To Alter It From The DSP He Only Made It 4 Days Ago
Osem
Yes, but, aren't the DSP, SAP, and STP all the same? They're all just Bernie bots! Vote for the black sheep! Vote TSB! Join TSB!
Umm No The DSP Is Just Regular Bernie Supporting Leftists, The SAP Is Focused On Automation, While STP Prefers Basing Things On Science.
Osem
Yes, but don't they all support bernie? The SAP doesn't mention anything about robots in their dispatch.
Have you not noticed the numerous times when I've mentioned Syndicalism, Luxemburgism, and Council Communism, all ideolgies that actually quite different from the average Sanderist? The SUP's ideology simply does not meld with DSP ideology, as my ideals are much more radical in many respects. This is a straw man I shan't stand for!
You claim to be an independent thinker, yet you're own factbook admits to mindlessly follow Sanders (even though you're not sanderist in the first place), and support authoritarian ideals that world inevitably build a cult of personality. Curious.
If you want a true, free thinking society, then strive for a society in which all leaders are not only held responsible by their peers in the working class, but are unable to abuse their power and be dismissed at the faintest whiff of incompetency or corruption!
And the SUR focuses on localized communes, workers' councils, labor unions, common ownership of the state by all people, and direct management of the workplace by those who work it.
1) Why are you surprised that people that are part of the Bernie Sanders Region support Bernie?
2) What exactly do you think automation means?
New United Common-Lands
You're only saying this because you want to shun and censor my views! Vote against censorship! Vote TSB!
The Socialist Automation Party, join the robot gang
The party would investigate and seek solutions to an automated economy
The Socialist Automation Party has the common aim of creating a society freed from the Workplace. The party would ensure a massive increase in public funding in the Automation Sector, AI technology sector and Genetic testing.
New United Common-Lands, Osem
Other than that they're basically the DSP.
This is ridiculous! You are a strawman factory if I've ever seen one! When did I mention anything at all about "censorship"? You're the one who wants the economy to be controlled by the state elite, and not by the workers directly!
He has completely avoided answering any of the concerns raised by me, showing incapability in basic debate! Democracy will wither under the reactionary rule of the TSBP! Citizens, vote whomever, be it DSP, SAP, ST or SUR, but vote against TSBP no matter what!
Not Exactly There Are More Differences On Education, Welfare & Poverty, & Tax Reform
Osem
Wait What About The SLP, And The EPP
Osem
Just because a party shares some views with another party does not mean they're the exact same party, reactionary. From what I see, the DSP and the SAP would have radically different approaches to implementing socialism, with the DSP being more reformist and the SAP being more direct and semi-revolutionary, not to mention completely different focuses to begin with, with DSP focusing on welfare and the SAP specifically focusing on an anti-work, automated, egalitarian society.
You are wrongly claiming that I don't support workers. Whlist you are socialist, i'm true communist!
Vote them too for all I care! Democracy is a gift, so exercise it! But the TSBP is a direct threat to democratic ideals!
No, i'll keep democracy, but adjusting it to an electoral college so bigger countries have more of the voice they deserve!
Bah, such a distinction is pointless! So long as they're not tankies, I'd also join ranks with communists! After all, Council Communism is a major influence on the SUR!
If you actually supported workers, then you'd trust them with direct management and planning over the economy, and not give all state planning over to bourgeoise state elite!
You completely denounce the state as a borgeoise organization. It is not. If you elect Osem, you will have anarchy!
An electoral college?! As in, a system purposely designed so that unknown, unelected figures do the voting on the "behalf of the people", leading into situations where the elite purposely override popular opinion in favor of their own agendas?
I reaffirm my position: The TSBP is an agent of the bourgeoise, intending to assassinate true workers' democracy!
Under your democracy system, a nation of 5 million would get the same as one of 5 billion! That's unfair!
I am not opposed to the very existence of the state. I believe the state has its uses, in matters such as funding and overseeing nuclear energies, healthcare, transportation, and just making sure all is well. I just believe that the workers' should take control of day-to-day economic activity for most industry in the form of localized governance and communes, not the national government!
The TSBP denounces any anti-authoritarian position as anarchic! This shows lack of nuance! How can we trust such a person to have the rationale and judgment to have the people's best interests in mind?
What the hell are you on about? I just don't think an electoral college of unelected officials have the nation's best interests in mind! I'm in extreme support for proportional representation, but creating an oligarchy will harm the entirety of the nation!
You're basically assuming authoritarianism will kill the people. And what's so bad about the state owning business? The SUR denounces the government as bourgeoise! If you don't want society to collapse, vote TSB!
Besides, just how is "my democracy", democracy in which the legislature is directly held responsible to fulling the people's will and who can be recalled if their mandate is violated, be any worse than a system in which the state has full control over the economy and which would implement an unelected oligarchy?
Yo Osem just ignore them.
Ardeyn, New United Common-Lands, The Green Environment, Osem
You are assuming I will take away democracy even though I won't. You're also assuming the people won't like state owned business. Workers' Rights are simply human rights. You constantly assume I will implement a totalitarian government, even though I won't. You are a skeptic.
I again state that I am not opposed to the existence of the state, and actually support nationalizing certain industries such as transportation and nuclear energy! But even in those cases, the nationalized industries would still be operated on a day-to-day basis by the workers whom work the workplace. I support extremely-decentralized planned economics with market-cohabitation, not anarchy!
Not to mention, did you just say that authoritarianism isn't bad? Go tell that to the victims of the Holocaust or Holodomor, or the Uighurs or the Tibetans, or the victims of Pinochet and Franco!
The TSBP does not trust the people, and lacks any nuance in political opinion! The SUR believes the people can live their own lives and manage their workplace without any bourgeoise authority telling them what to do!
Don't Vote TSBP! Vote literally Anyone Else!
I Once Thought Debates Would Never Happen In This Region And I Was Wrong..... Very Wrong.
Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland, Osem
Is it wrong to be skeptical of complete state-domination of the economy? Is it wrong to be skeptical of those who would seek to increase the power of the elite?
You're form of workers' rights is workers' subservience. My form of workers' rights is workers' freedom to operate.
They literally instigated us into a civil war (which was stupid, to begin with). Ignore him your party seems nice and theirs is just hard to take seriously.
Ardeyn, Osem
Y'know what, y'all're right, I have more important things to do. Adios, and please be careful for whom you vote!
Santu Surgo
Thank you for the kinds words!
Santu Surgo
I never stated authoritarianism wasn't bad, and, you support a weak state by giving those industries to workers. We need a strong state to maintain a strong and stable nation.
No problem. I'm always here just reading you alls responses to each other and I'm just always laughing cause PeePeeland will say something and their beliefs are drastically different from mine and most of y'alls. (honestly, this entire region is different from my views)
Peoples Republic Of Peepeeland, Ardeyn
Im Wondering Why Do You Make A New Message Instead Of Quoting Someone
Still works.
Santu Surgo
IDK just doing it that way.
Ardeyn
The first time Ive ever seen Santu Surgo do anything except liking messages
Santu Surgo, New United Common-Lands
Lol. I try to say stuff but Aya, PeePeeland, or Sidd would message 3 things right after.
But Siddharristan Left TRTHNBB
Yeah, I mean back when I would speak. Now it's more just Aya and PeePeeland who will speak and then Ardeyn or Washington will come in to calm down the conversation.
I didn't know that! Siddharstan did so much for this region!
Sidd started a civil war with Aya
Let me guess, ADR won?
I Know I Actually Telegramed Him To Come Back Once But He Said He Has Problems With Someone Here But He Actually Said That It Wasnt Me He Has Problems With.
Umm Actually No It Was More Like A Stalemate And It Was Actually After The Civil War
Thank you Osem for the debate! You made some good arguments! Congratulations!
Now Guys Who Are You Gonna Vote For! The TSB Or The SLP Or The Other 5 Parties?
Also I Didnt Force Him To Leave He Chose To Leave Himself.
Nobody won. Our region plummeted cause everyone freaked out that Yodle might CTE. They were being reactionary instead of just believing in their leader.
Yeah Nobody Won
When will the EPP and SLP edit their dispatches? I'm curious to see their policy.
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