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Titanne wrote:Yes but there needs to be a specific guideline so that the Speaker and Chairman do not come under fire for refusing to debate a bill that is not discernibly one or the other.

Well I disagree because he must hold under debate any bill that isn't one or another, but you can propose an Amendment if you want on that.

Developing World wrote:First of all, I checked with every Senator and no one had any other proposals, the House passed no bill which we have not voted on and I still have not recieved the judges. So don't throw it on me, this was literally the only thing on the table. 10 is not that difficult, not even 20, probably we will be 300 here by the time this bill passes every filter. The independent thing is to ensure more involvment from them and it is not an absurdly high number as 80-90% of our citizens are politically independent. Also if you think the system is complicated, an opinion I don't share but I respect, amendment phase begins soon, would love to see some amendments by you to simplify it. Now there are several reasons for which this is a better option than the one we have now, like:

1. Adds to the fun and direct democracy

2. Usefull training for future MPs and Senators

3. Ensures a multilateral effort: writer-signatores-representatives

4. We don't have them now, but in the future there might be corrupt Senators and MPs which might refuse bills by citizens

5. The citizens also get to say their opinion on the bill by signing it or not

Those are just a few, there are more

You fail to understand how the population of regios actually work, doesen't matter if we have 300 nations if 250 aren't actually involved in the region, and that is our scenario. Last election we had a total of 38 votes cast, even though we already had more then 100 nations in the region. You see, even though the population appears to be high most people aren't actually involved in the political process of the region, which is why getting signatures would be way harder then you think it is. As for the independent thing, I still fail to see your reasoning, most of the people who are independents are actually the group that I mentioned earlier, citizens who aren't actually involved on the political process of the region.

Titanne

Cerdenia wrote:You fail to understand how the population of regios actually work, doesen't matter if we have 300 nations if 250 aren't actually involved in the region, and that is our scenario. Last election we had a total of 38 votes cast, even though we already had more then 100 nations in the region. You see, even though the population appears to be high most people aren't actually involved in the political process of the region, which is why getting signatures would be way harder then you think it is. As for the independent thing, I still fail to see your reasoning, most of the people who are independents are actually the group that I mentioned earlier, citizens who aren't actually involved on the political process of the region.

I do not fail to understand anything. If a certain bill proposal is good, it is very easy to gather 10 signatures for it. Also you have ways to advertise, through TGs and RMB and off-site forums. 10 is a very easy number of signatures to gather, and a very useful filter of good/bad ideas. Now, about the independent thing, it is a way to involve people that usually don't get involved in the process. And getting 2 independents to sign shouldn't be very hard. Still, as I assume you have another opinion on this, I suggest you to be involved in the amendment phase, you might pass one to eliminate the independent signatures, depending on the opinion of the rest. I really want all of the Senators to use this way to put their mark and voice into this bill.

Developing World wrote:I do not fail to understand anything. If a certain bill proposal is good, it is very easy to gather 10 signatures for it. Also you have ways to advertise, through TGs and RMB and off-site forums. 10 is a very easy number of signatures to gather, and a very useful filter of good/bad ideas. Now, about the independent thing, it is a way to involve people that usually don't get involved in the process. And getting 2 independents to sign shouldn't be very hard. Still, as I assume you have another opinion on this, I suggest you to be involved in the amendment phase, you might pass one to eliminate the independent signatures, depending on the opinion of the rest. I really want all of the Senators to use this way to put their mark and voice into this bill.

Even if I amend the bill, I will likely still vote it down. Being someone who is relatively new to NS, I am deferring to Cerdenia’s advice when it comes to something that would change the general proceedings of a region, as he is the most experienced member of the Senate. To be clear, however, I do have my own opinion, which is to vote down this bill.

Cerdenia, Developing World

Titanne wrote:Even if I amend the bill, I will likely still vote it down. Being someone who is relatively new to NS, I am deferring to Cerdenia’s advice when it comes to something that would change the general proceedings of a region, as he is the most experienced member of the Senate. To be clear, however, I do have my own opinion, which is to vote down this bill.

I respect that, but I still recommend you to amend it.

Developing World wrote:I do not fail to understand anything. If a certain bill proposal is good, it is very easy to gather 10 signatures for it. Also you have ways to advertise, through TGs and RMB and off-site forums. 10 is a very easy number of signatures to gather, and a very useful filter of good/bad ideas. Now, about the independent thing, it is a way to involve people that usually don't get involved in the process. And getting 2 independents to sign shouldn't be very hard. Still, as I assume you have another opinion on this, I suggest you to be involved in the amendment phase, you might pass one to eliminate the independent signatures, depending on the opinion of the rest. I really want all of the Senators to use this way to put their mark and voice into this bill.

Well you ignored my point about regional population and just said 10 is easy so idk what to say really. 10 is reasonable, although getting one sponsorship from a senator is still 100 times easier.

Developing World

Cerdenia wrote:Well you ignored my point about regional population and just said 10 is easy so idk what to say really. 10 is reasonable, although getting one sponsorship from a senator is still 100 times easier.

I said that the regional populace point is fair, but gathering 10 signatures is still possible

Mercystwyth

Alright, debate time over

S.B. 003 - PETITIONING SYSTEM ACT - VOTING

Author: Developing World

Sponsor: Developing World

1. Preamble

Acnowledging the need for more involvement of private citizens of Thaecia in the political life of the region and for more connection beetwen voters and their Representatives hereby enacting:

2. Requirements for a petition

- It must have a writer who is not a government official

- It must gather at least 10 signatures

- At least 20% of the number of signatures it gathered must be from politically independent nations

3. Organization of the system

The Prime Minister or someone he appoints must create a thread on the region's page (similar to that of the Constitution of Thaecia) which must contain all the proposed petitions (obviously the writer must notify and submitt the petition to the one responsible with the page). Afterwards he (the writer) can use the region's RMB and telegrams to gather the required number of signatures for his petition. After a petition reaches all of the requirements, it must be submitted to the Speaker of the House of Commons and taken down from the page. The use of puppets for gathering signatures it's strictly prohibited and there are recommended harsh punishments for any violation of this rule.

4. Parliamentary procedures

(Just to be clear the MPs can still propose bills of their own ideas and principles) After the bill is submitted to the Speaker of the House of Commons he must put it down to vote during a time limit of one month since he received it. (That way he can prioritise what he thinks is more important)

5. Exceptions from Chapter 4

- Trolling bills which the Speaker can simply reject/dismiss when they are submitted to him, but they must be obviously trolling bills, not RP laws or things that the Speaker disagrees with. Harsh punishment is recommended if the Speaker dismisses a non-trolling petition.

- RP bills that are putted to stand by during the first six months after this bill is passed. After that time limit is achieved, they take the path described in Chapter 4.

6. Enactment

Effective one week after the bill passes so the petition system can be properly organised.

AYE: Developing World (TPU)

NAY:

ABSTAIN:

Cerdenia

Greater Conexus

Albianis

Titanne

Please vote on the Senate RMB as soon as possible!

Titanne

Aye

Developing World, Titanne

Post self-deleted by Titanne.

Aye

Developing World

Thank you! You have voted in the right way! This bill will only help Thaecia

Titanne

S.B. 003 - PETITIONING SYSTEM ACT - VOTING CONCLUSION

Author: Developing World

Sponsor: Developing World

1. Preamble

Acnowledging the need for more involvement of private citizens of Thaecia in the political life of the region and for more connection beetwen voters and their Representatives hereby enacting:

2. Requirements for a petition

- It must have a writer who is not a government official

- It must gather at least 10 signatures

- At least 20% of the number of signatures it gathered must be from politically independent nations

3. Organization of the system

The Prime Minister or someone he appoints must create a thread on the region's page (similar to that of the Constitution of Thaecia) which must contain all the proposed petitions (obviously the writer must notify and submitt the petition to the one responsible with the page). Afterwards he (the writer) can use the region's RMB and telegrams to gather the required number of signatures for his petition. After a petition reaches all of the requirements, it must be submitted to the Speaker of the House of Commons and taken down from the page. The use of puppets for gathering signatures it's strictly prohibited and there are recommended harsh punishments for any violation of this rule.

4. Parliamentary procedures

(Just to be clear the MPs can still propose bills of their own ideas and principles) After the bill is submitted to the Speaker of the House of Commons he must put it down to vote during a time limit of one month since he received it. (That way he can prioritise what he thinks is more important)

5. Exceptions from Chapter 4

- Trolling bills which the Speaker can simply reject/dismiss when they are submitted to him, but they must be obviously trolling bills, not RP laws or things that the Speaker disagrees with. Harsh punishment is recommended if the Speaker dismisses a non-trolling petition.

- RP bills that are putted to stand by during the first six months after this bill is passed. After that time limit is achieved, they take the path described in Chapter 4.

6. Enactment

Effective one week after the bill passes so the petition system can be properly organised.

AYE: Developing World (TPU), Greater Conexus (TSP), Titanne (TPU)

NAY: Albianis (TPU)

ABSTAIN:

This bill has passed!

Voting on this bill has ended.

As we have HoC elections soon, we will discuss H.B. 005 about the Electoral Commissioner. Please be active and let your voice be heard.

Cerdenia

I have a bill that I would like to put into the queue for debate. https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1182559

Developing World

Titanne wrote:I have a bill that I would like to put into the queue for debate. https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1182559

Developing World

It will certainly be put to debate soon, but first we have some House bills and the judges. Next week most likely.

Good thing then that we have 4 months in these offices, as we all have plenty of ideas to pass.

H.B. 005 - The Thaecian Electoral Commissioner Act - DEBATING

Author: Andusre

Sponsor: Rayekka, West Aldbund

Preamble:

Noting that the management of elections is critical to a democratic process, and concerned that this is not clearly defined in the constitution, Congress hereby creates the post of Electoral Commissioner.

Article 1

Section I: The Roles of the Electoral Commissioner.

The roles of the Electoral Commissioner shall be:

To organise, schedule and initiate all elections, whether they are normal, special or snap.

To ensure that the elections held are fair and unbiased.

To enforce the Constitution's requirements for voting eligibility. This means that the Electoral Commissioner must exclude non-WA voters' ballots from the final certified result, unless said voter has received a waiver.

To publish a certified election result once the ballot has concluded.

Section II: The Responsibilities of the Electoral Commissioner

The responsibilities of the Electoral Commissioner shall be:

To treat all candidates fairly and avoid using language in the polls to influence voters.

To avoid abusing the power to initiate elections.

To uphold the right to run for public office, laid out in Article VII of the Constitution.

Article 2

Section I: Selection of the Electoral Commissioner

The Electoral Commissioner shall be nominated by the President, and approved after receiving the support of half of both chambers of congress.

Section II: Term Limits

The Electoral Commissioner shall serve a term of 6 months. After this, the commissioner must be renewed by the process given above. There is no limit on how many terms one Commissioner may serve.

Section III: Removal

If there is evidence to prove that, beyond reasonable doubt, the Electoral Commissioner has mismanaged an election or rigged it in one candidate/party's favour, the House of Commons will be tasked with impeachment proceedings. This impeachment shall require the support of three fifths of the House of Commons. If the impeachment commands this support, it shall be passed to the Court which will determine if the Commissioner acted in bad faith. If the Court rules that the Commissioner has mismanaged/rigged an election, the Commission will be dismissed and a new Commissioner will be selected. The Commissioner who was dismissed by the court cannot ever be re-appointed to the post.

Article 3

Section I: Powers of the Electoral Commissioner

The Commissioner shall be granted Communications authority and regional Polling authority.

Article 4

Section I: Candidates

All candidates for all elections must inform the Commissioner of their intention to run and the party, if any, that they are running with. If they do not do so by the passing of a deadline before the election(s) start (set by the Commissioner themselves), they cannot be included on the ballot.

The passing of this bill is urgent as the HoC elections will happen very soon, so I urge you to express your opinions soon. Also I have decided to give the right to interfere with the debate if he so desires to Prime Minister Andusre.

Cerdenia

Titanne

Albianis

Greater Conexus

Developing World wrote:It will certainly be put to debate soon, but first we have some House bills and the judges. Next week most likely.

Great!

I think that this bill is great! I do suggest that when the house votes on my Secretary Bill they amend it as I believe that the way I wrote it the Secretary shared duties with it. I believe that the secretary should lose these powers and keep his/her factbook duties.

Developing World

Developing World wrote:S.B. 003 - PETITIONING SYSTEM ACT - VOTING

Author: Developing World

Sponsor: Developing World

1. Preamble

Acnowledging the need for more involvement of private citizens of Thaecia in the political life of the region and for more connection beetwen voters and their Representatives hereby enacting:

2. Requirements for a petition

- It must have a writer who is not a government official

- It must gather at least 10 signatures

- At least 20% of the number of signatures it gathered must be from politically independent nations

3. Organization of the system

The Prime Minister or someone he appoints must create a thread on the region's page (similar to that of the Constitution of Thaecia) which must contain all the proposed petitions (obviously the writer must notify and submitt the petition to the one responsible with the page). Afterwards he (the writer) can use the region's RMB and telegrams to gather the required number of signatures for his petition. After a petition reaches all of the requirements, it must be submitted to the Speaker of the House of Commons and taken down from the page. The use of puppets for gathering signatures it's strictly prohibited and there are recommended harsh punishments for any violation of this rule.

4. Parliamentary procedures

(Just to be clear the MPs can still propose bills of their own ideas and principles) After the bill is submitted to the Speaker of the House of Commons he must put it down to vote during a time limit of one month since he received it. (That way he can prioritise what he thinks is more important)

5. Exceptions from Chapter 4

- Trolling bills which the Speaker can simply reject/dismiss when they are submitted to him, but they must be obviously trolling bills, not RP laws or things that the Speaker disagrees with. Harsh punishment is recommended if the Speaker dismisses a non-trolling petition.

- RP bills that are putted to stand by during the first six months after this bill is passed. After that time limit is achieved, they take the path described in Chapter 4.

6. Enactment

Effective one week after the bill passes so the petition system can be properly organised.

AYE: Developing World (TPU)

NAY:

ABSTAIN:

Cerdenia

Greater Conexus

Albianis

Titanne

Please vote on the Senate RMB as soon as possible!

NAY

I ask the Chairman to stop closing the vote so fast and start giving proper time for all senators to vote. I am active multiple times a day, however you opened the vote while I was at school, you need to realise that we are not all on the same timezone.

Titanne wrote:I think that this bill is great! I do suggest that when the house votes on my Secretary Bill they amend it as I believe that the way I wrote it the Secretary shared duties with it. I believe that the secretary should lose these powers and keep his/her factbook duties.

Rayekka

Rayekka

Cerdenia wrote:NAY

I ask the Chairman to stop closing the vote so fast and start giving proper time for all senators to vote. I am active multiple times a day, however you opened the vote while I was at school, you need to realise that we are not all on the same timezone.

I closed it because we needed to debate that bill, something that I would appreciate if you do, as the HoC election is coming soon

Developing World wrote:[spoiler]H.B. 005 - The Thaecian Electoral Commissioner Act - DEBATING

Author: Andusre

Sponsor: Rayekka, West Aldbund

Preamble:

Noting that the management of elections is critical to a democratic process, and concerned that this is not clearly defined in the constitution, Congress hereby creates the post of Electoral Commissioner.

Article 1

Section I: The Roles of the Electoral Commissioner.

The roles of the Electoral Commissioner shall be:

To organise, schedule and initiate all elections, whether they are normal, special or snap.

To ensure that the elections held are fair and unbiased.

To enforce the Constitution's requirements for voting eligibility. This means that the Electoral Commissioner must exclude non-WA voters' ballots from the final certified result, unless said voter has received a waiver.

To publish a certified election result once the ballot has concluded.

Section II: The Responsibilities of the Electoral Commissioner

The responsibilities of the Electoral Commissioner shall be:

To treat all candidates fairly and avoid using language in the polls to influence voters.

To avoid abusing the power to initiate elections.

To uphold the right to run for public office, laid out in Article VII of the Constitution.

Article 2

Section I: Selection of the Electoral Commissioner

The Electoral Commissioner shall be nominated by the President, and approved after receiving the support of half of both chambers of congress.

Section II: Term Limits

The Electoral Commissioner shall serve a term of 6 months. After this, the commissioner must be renewed by the process given above. There is no limit on how many terms one Commissioner may serve.

Section III: Removal

If there is evidence to prove that, beyond reasonable doubt, the Electoral Commissioner has mismanaged an election or rigged it in one candidate/party's favour, the House of Commons will be tasked with impeachment proceedings. This impeachment shall require the support of three fifths of the House of Commons. If the impeachment commands this support, it shall be passed to the Court which will determine if the Commissioner acted in bad faith. If the Court rules that the Commissioner has mismanaged/rigged an election, the Commission will be dismissed and a new Commissioner will be selected. The Commissioner who was dismissed by the court cannot ever be re-appointed to the post.

Article 3

Section I: Powers of the Electoral Commissioner

The Commissioner shall be granted Communications authority and regional Polling authority.

Article 4

Section I: Candidates

All candidates for all elections must inform the Commissioner of their intention to run and the party, if any, that they are running with. If they do not do so by the passing of a deadline before the election(s) start (set by the Commissioner themselves), they cannot be included on the ballot.

The passing of this bill is urgent as the HoC elections will happen very soon, so I urge you to express your opinions soon. Also I have decided to give the right to interfere with the debate if he so desires to Prime Minister Andusre.

Cerdenia

Titanne

Albianis

Greater Conexus[/spoiler]

Ah yes I already stated I am supportive of this bill back when it was originally proposed. It is good to have a specfic person to organsie our electoral process, our President has been doing a great job so far, but in general it is better that we prevent him from being accused of being "biased" with electoral results. Plan to vote aye to this bill.

Developing World wrote:I closed it because we needed to debate that bill, something that I would appreciate if you do, as the HoC election is coming soon

Just let the voting opened for more time next time, you can't leave a voting opened for like 4 hours, completely disregarding the fact that we are not all on the same timezone, and ask me to be active when I already am, just literally couldn't be during the voting due to being busy in school at the time.

The Marconian State, Developing World, West Aldbund

Cerdenia wrote:Ah yes I already stated I am supportive of this bill back when it was originally proposed. It is good to have a specfic person to organsie our electoral process, our President has been doing a great job so far, but in general it is better that we prevent him from being accused of being "biased" with electoral results. Plan to vote aye to this bill.

Just let the voting opened for more time next time, you can't leave a voting opened for like 4 hours, completely disregarding the fact that we are not all on the same timezone, and ask me to be active when I already am, just literally couldn't be during the voting due to being busy in school at the time.

Yeah, I only stop the vote when a majority is reached. And about that, I also support this bill. It is a great idea for this office to be established

I support it as well

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1201727

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1201730

Please check this once in a while

Alright, debate time over.

Now, let's start the Amendment phase.

Cerdenia

Titanne

Greater Conexus

Albianis

I actually really like this bill. I have no amendments.

Post self-deleted by Titanne.

Actually, I’d like to change that. I’d like to add “For the May 2019 elections, the President will fulfill the duties of the Electoral Comissioner in order for the electoral commissioner to settle into their role and not be rushed before they are prepared.

Amendment proposal nr. 1 - VOTING PHASE

Author: Titanne

For the May 2019 elections, the President will fulfill the duties of the Electoral Comissioner in order for the electoral commissioner to settle into their role and not be rushed before they are prepared.

AYE: Titanne (TPU)

NAY: Developing World (TPU)

ABSTAIN:

Please vote as quickly as possible!

Cerdenia

Albianis

Greater Conexus

NAY

There is literally no election in may, this amendment makes no sense.

Titanne

H.B. 005 - The Thaecian Electoral Commissioner Act - VOTING PHASE

Author: Andusre

Sponsor: Rayekka, West Aldbund

Preamble:

Noting that the management of elections is critical to a democratic process, and concerned that this is not clearly defined in the constitution, Congress hereby creates the post of Electoral Commissioner.

Article 1

Section I: The Roles of the Electoral Commissioner.

The roles of the Electoral Commissioner shall be:

To organise, schedule and initiate all elections, whether they are normal, special or snap.

To ensure that the elections held are fair and unbiased.

To enforce the Constitution's requirements for voting eligibility. This means that the Electoral Commissioner must exclude non-WA voters' ballots from the final certified result, unless said voter has received a waiver.

To publish a certified election result once the ballot has concluded.

Section II: The Responsibilities of the Electoral Commissioner

The responsibilities of the Electoral Commissioner shall be:

To treat all candidates fairly and avoid using language in the polls to influence voters.

To avoid abusing the power to initiate elections.

To uphold the right to run for public office, laid out in Article VII of the Constitution.

Article 2

Section I: Selection of the Electoral Commissioner

The Electoral Commissioner shall be nominated by the President, and approved after receiving the support of half of both chambers of congress.

Section II: Term Limits

The Electoral Commissioner shall serve a term of 6 months. After this, the commissioner must be renewed by the process given above. There is no limit on how many terms one Commissioner may serve.

Section III: Removal

If there is evidence to prove that, beyond reasonable doubt, the Electoral Commissioner has mismanaged an election or rigged it in one candidate/party's favour, the House of Commons will be tasked with impeachment proceedings. This impeachment shall require the support of three fifths of the House of Commons. If the impeachment commands this support, it shall be passed to the Court which will determine if the Commissioner acted in bad faith. If the Court rules that the Commissioner has mismanaged/rigged an election, the Commission will be dismissed and a new Commissioner will be selected. The Commissioner who was dismissed by the court cannot ever be re-appointed to the post.

Article 3

Section I: Powers of the Electoral Commissioner

The Commissioner shall be granted Communications authority and regional Polling authority.

Article 4

Section I: Candidates

All candidates for all elections must inform the Commissioner of their intention to run and the party, if any, that they are running with. If they do not do so by the passing of a deadline before the election(s) start (set by the Commissioner themselves), they cannot be included on the ballot.

AYE: Developing World (TPU)

NAY:

ABSTAIN:

Please vote as soon as possible!

Titanne

Cerdenia

Albianis

Greater Conexus

Developing World wrote:Amendment proposal nr. 1 - VOTING PHASE

Author: Titanne

For the May 2019 elections, the President will fulfill the duties of the Electoral Comissioner in order for the electoral commissioner to settle into their role and not be rushed before they are prepared.

AYE: Titanne (TPU)

NAY: Developing World (TPU)

ABSTAIN:

Please vote as quickly as possible!

Cerdenia

Albianis

Greater Conexus

Oh shoot I meant this upcoming election.

Titanne wrote:Oh shoot I meant this upcoming election.

That’s probably too late, but still.

Titanne wrote:That’s probably too late, but still.

Yeah, too late... Please vote on the bill

H.B. 005 - The Thaecian Electoral Commissioner Act - VOTING ENDED

Author: Andusre

Sponsor: Rayekka, West Aldbund

Preamble:

Noting that the management of elections is critical to a democratic process, and concerned that this is not clearly defined in the constitution, Congress hereby creates the post of Electoral Commissioner.

Article 1

Section I: The Roles of the Electoral Commissioner.

The roles of the Electoral Commissioner shall be:

To organise, schedule and initiate all elections, whether they are normal, special or snap.

To ensure that the elections held are fair and unbiased.

To enforce the Constitution's requirements for voting eligibility. This means that the Electoral Commissioner must exclude non-WA voters' ballots from the final certified result, unless said voter has received a waiver.

To publish a certified election result once the ballot has concluded.

Section II: The Responsibilities of the Electoral Commissioner

The responsibilities of the Electoral Commissioner shall be:

To treat all candidates fairly and avoid using language in the polls to influence voters.

To avoid abusing the power to initiate elections.

To uphold the right to run for public office, laid out in Article VII of the Constitution.

Article 2

Section I: Selection of the Electoral Commissioner

The Electoral Commissioner shall be nominated by the President, and approved after receiving the support of half of both chambers of congress.

Section II: Term Limits

The Electoral Commissioner shall serve a term of 6 months. After this, the commissioner must be renewed by the process given above. There is no limit on how many terms one Commissioner may serve.

Section III: Removal

If there is evidence to prove that, beyond reasonable doubt, the Electoral Commissioner has mismanaged an election or rigged it in one candidate/party's favour, the House of Commons will be tasked with impeachment proceedings. This impeachment shall require the support of three fifths of the House of Commons. If the impeachment commands this support, it shall be passed to the Court which will determine if the Commissioner acted in bad faith. If the Court rules that the Commissioner has mismanaged/rigged an election, the Commission will be dismissed and a new Commissioner will be selected. The Commissioner who was dismissed by the court cannot ever be re-appointed to the post.

Article 3

Section I: Powers of the Electoral Commissioner

The Commissioner shall be granted Communications authority and regional Polling authority.

Article 4

Section I: Candidates

All candidates for all elections must inform the Commissioner of their intention to run and the party, if any, that they are running with. If they do not do so by the passing of a deadline before the election(s) start (set by the Commissioner themselves), they cannot be included on the ballot.

AYE: Developing World (TPU), Titanne (TPU), Greater Conexus (TSP)

NAY:

ABSTAIN:

Congratulations! Our legislative branch passed its first bill!

Voting on this bill has ended.

Titanne

Alright. So, as you know, we amended H.B. 001 - Ministerial Hearings Act, causing it to go back to the HoC. They ratified 2 of our amendments, and modified one.

Original version: If a Minister does not appear in hearings for 4 consecutive weeks, this will be grounds for impeachment, unless they have an excuse, such as medical, work-related and school-related problems, travel, etc.

House adopted version: If a Minister does not attend 2 consecutive hearings, this will be grounds for impeachment. Unless they provide suitable a suitable excuse that should be determined by the Speaker of the House of Commons & Senate Chairman. If they believe it a poor excuse, they are responsible for organising an impeachment case in the court.

As it is basically saying the same thing, we will start VOTING on the House-modified Amendment right now.

AYE: Developing World (TPU)

NAY:

ABSTAIN:

Please vote as quickly as possible!

Cerdenia, Albianis, Titanne, Greater Conexus

The Amendment is ratified

H.B. 001 - MINISTERIAL HEARING ACT - DEBATE

Author: Rayekka

Sponsor: Rayekka

Preamble

To further the checks & balances purpose of Congress. Hereby enacts the following.

Section 1

The purpose of Ministerial Hearings is for Congress to submit questions to a specific Minister in the executive government, to make sure progress and competence is being carried out by the executive branch. All members of the Government are subject to Ministerial Hearings. Members of the Government are defined as the Prime Minister, the Minister for Home Affairs, the Minister for Foreign Affairs, the Justice Minister, the Cultural/Entertainment Minister, and the Roleplay Minister. The President is not subject to Ministerial Hearings. Ministerial Hearings will be held on that Houses RMB.

Section 2

Every Monday, the House of Commons business will stop and the Speaker will call upon a Minister to speak in the House of Commons (what Minister is called is set out in Section 4). Throughout the week Members of Parliament will be able to submit questions to the Speaker. On Monday, the Speaker will then select and submit 5 questions to the Minister that must be answered that day.

When the Prime Minister is called to a hearing. The Speaker can select and submit 8 questions to the Prime Minister.

Ministers may also make statements to the House as separate to answering questions.

Section 3

Every Friday, Senate business will stop and the Senate President will call upon a Minister to speak in the Senate (what Minister is called is set out in Section 4). Throughout the week Senators will be able to submit questions to the Senate President. On Friday, the Senate President will then select and submit 5 questions to the Minister that must be answered that day.

When the Prime Minister is called to a hearing. The Senate President can select and submit 8 questions to the Prime Minister.

Ministers may also make statements to the Senate as separate to answering questions.

Section 4

Ministerial Hearings are ran on a 6 week schedule. The House of Commons & Senate schedules will be different.

House of Commons Schedule:

Week 1: The Prime Minister

Week 2: The Culture/Entertainment Minister

Week 3: The Foreign Affairs Minister

Week 4: The Justice Minister

Week 5: The Home Affairs Minister

Week 6: The Roleplay Minister

Senate Schedule:

Week 1: The Justice Minister

Week 2: The Home Affairs Minister

Week 3: The Roleplay Minister

Week 4: The Prime Minister

Week 5: The Culture/Entertainment Minister

Week 6: The Foreign Affairs Minister

Section 5

Urgent Ministerial Hearings are un-scheduled hearings that will be held if a group of Members of Parliament or Senators believe one is required.

In order for an Urgent Ministerial Hearing to be held, a proposal must be put to the floor of that chamber and passed with a simple majority. If the proposal passes, the Urgent Ministerial Hearing must be held within 3 days of the proposal being passed, not including Mondays and Fridays.

In the event of an Urgent Ministerial Hearing, members of the chamber holding the Hearing may submit questions as they please in which the Minister must answer all of them that day.

Urgent Ministerial Hearings will be held in that chambers RMB.

Section 6

This law shall come into effect the next Monday after this law is passed.

Amendment 1

The President, while not a subject of the Ministerial Hearings, must give a report to both chambers about the state of Thaecia and the future plans for the region after every 4 months passed. After that he must take at maximum 5 questions from each chamber selected by the Speaker/Chairman and asked by the members of the chamber.

Amendment 2

Exchange all references to 'Culture / Entertainment Minister' with 'Culture Minister'

Amendment 3

If a Minister does not attend 2 consecutive hearings, this will be grounds for impeachment. Unless they provide suitable a suitable excuse that should be determined by the Speaker of the House of Commons & Senate Chairman. If they believe it a poor excuse, they are responsible for organising an impeachment case in the court.

Please express your opinions as soon as possible!

Cerdenia

Albianis

Greater Conexus

Titanne

Didn’t we already vote on this?

Aye

Developing World

Can you stop rushing stuff? Where is the debate? Also you closed the voting for the last bill literally within less then one hour! You got to stop rushing stuff, noone appreciates a Taralania level incative senate, but we don't want 1 hour votes either.

The Marconian State

Cerdenia wrote:Aye

Developing World

Can you stop rushing stuff? Where is the debate? Also you closed the voting for the last bill literally within less then one hour! You got to stop rushing stuff, noone appreciates a Taralania level incative senate, but we don't want 1 hour votes either.

Aye on what? We are debating a bill now :))). And, just to set the record straight, you did have a lot of time for debate on that bill and on all of the bills we voted on since I became Chairman

Titanne wrote:Didn’t we already vote on this?

We only voted on the Amendments, so we have to vote again on the whole thing

Oh. Can we table this bill until we find out if the Secretary bill is ratified, so that we can include it on the schedule?

Also, I propose that we add Electoral Commissioner to Week 7 of the house and week 3 of the senate schedules. (This would push all other Senate appointments down a week).

Developing World wrote:Aye on what? We are debating a bill now :))). And, just to set the record straight, you did have a lot of time for debate on that bill and on all of the bills we voted on since I became Chairman

I was referring to this amedment which you gave 0 time for debate.

Developing World wrote:Alright. So, as you know, we amended H.B. 001 - Ministerial Hearings Act, causing it to go back to the HoC. They ratified 2 of our amendments, and modified one.

Original version: If a Minister does not appear in hearings for 4 consecutive weeks, this will be grounds for impeachment, unless they have an excuse, such as medical, work-related and school-related problems, travel, etc.

House adopted version: If a Minister does not attend 2 consecutive hearings, this will be grounds for impeachment. Unless they provide suitable a suitable excuse that should be determined by the Speaker of the House of Commons & Senate Chairman. If they believe it a poor excuse, they are responsible for organising an impeachment case in the court.

As it is basically saying the same thing, we will start VOTING on the House-modified Amendment right now.

AYE: Developing World (TPU)

NAY:

ABSTAIN:

Please vote as quickly as possible!

Cerdenia, Albianis, Titanne, Greater Conexus

Please stop rushing stuff, I don't like to miss senate votes because the Chairman left the voting opened for one hour.

The Marconian State

Developing World wrote:H.B. 001 - MINISTERIAL HEARING ACT - DEBATE

Author: Rayekka

Sponsor: Rayekka

Preamble

To further the checks & balances purpose of Congress. Hereby enacts the following.

Section 1

The purpose of Ministerial Hearings is for Congress to submit questions to a specific Minister in the executive government, to make sure progress and competence is being carried out by the executive branch. All members of the Government are subject to Ministerial Hearings. Members of the Government are defined as the Prime Minister, the Minister for Home Affairs, the Minister for Foreign Affairs, the Justice Minister, the Cultural/Entertainment Minister, and the Roleplay Minister. The President is not subject to Ministerial Hearings. Ministerial Hearings will be held on that Houses RMB.

Section 2

Every Monday, the House of Commons business will stop and the Speaker will call upon a Minister to speak in the House of Commons (what Minister is called is set out in Section 4). Throughout the week Members of Parliament will be able to submit questions to the Speaker. On Monday, the Speaker will then select and submit 5 questions to the Minister that must be answered that day.

When the Prime Minister is called to a hearing. The Speaker can select and submit 8 questions to the Prime Minister.

Ministers may also make statements to the House as separate to answering questions.

Section 3

Every Friday, Senate business will stop and the Senate President will call upon a Minister to speak in the Senate (what Minister is called is set out in Section 4). Throughout the week Senators will be able to submit questions to the Senate President. On Friday, the Senate President will then select and submit 5 questions to the Minister that must be answered that day.

When the Prime Minister is called to a hearing. The Senate President can select and submit 8 questions to the Prime Minister.

Ministers may also make statements to the Senate as separate to answering questions.

Section 4

Ministerial Hearings are ran on a 6 week schedule. The House of Commons & Senate schedules will be different.

House of Commons Schedule:

Week 1: The Prime Minister

Week 2: The Culture/Entertainment Minister

Week 3: The Foreign Affairs Minister

Week 4: The Justice Minister

Week 5: The Home Affairs Minister

Week 6: The Roleplay Minister

Senate Schedule:

Week 1: The Justice Minister

Week 2: The Home Affairs Minister

Week 3: The Roleplay Minister

Week 4: The Prime Minister

Week 5: The Culture/Entertainment Minister

Week 6: The Foreign Affairs Minister

Section 5

Urgent Ministerial Hearings are un-scheduled hearings that will be held if a group of Members of Parliament or Senators believe one is required.

In order for an Urgent Ministerial Hearing to be held, a proposal must be put to the floor of that chamber and passed with a simple majority. If the proposal passes, the Urgent Ministerial Hearing must be held within 3 days of the proposal being passed, not including Mondays and Fridays.

In the event of an Urgent Ministerial Hearing, members of the chamber holding the Hearing may submit questions as they please in which the Minister must answer all of them that day.

Urgent Ministerial Hearings will be held in that chambers RMB.

Section 6

This law shall come into effect the next Monday after this law is passed.

Amendment 1

The President, while not a subject of the Ministerial Hearings, must give a report to both chambers about the state of Thaecia and the future plans for the region after every 4 months passed. After that he must take at maximum 5 questions from each chamber selected by the Speaker/Chairman and asked by the members of the chamber.

Amendment 2

Exchange all references to 'Culture / Entertainment Minister' with 'Culture Minister'

Amendment 3

If a Minister does not attend 2 consecutive hearings, this will be grounds for impeachment. Unless they provide suitable a suitable excuse that should be determined by the Speaker of the House of Commons & Senate Chairman. If they believe it a poor excuse, they are responsible for organising an impeachment case in the court.

Please express your opinions as soon as possible!

Cerdenia

Albianis

Greater Conexus

Titanne

We don't actually need to vote on this again Mr Chairman, we already approved this bill and now approved the amendment to it. Voting on a bill which we approved, with an amendment we also already approved makes no sense, this is already law.

Cerdenia wrote:We don't actually need to vote on this again Mr Chairman, we already approved this bill and now approved the amendment to it. Voting on a bill which we approved, with an amendment we also already approved makes no sense, this is already law.

No, I looked in the RMB and we did not approve this bill. We approved the amendments and then sent it back to the House.

Cerdenia wrote:I was referring to this amedment which you gave 0 time for debate.

Please stop rushing stuff, I don't like to miss senate votes because the Chairman left the voting opened for one hour.

I thought there was no thing to debate, it was just a word restructuring, but you are right, I will give anything time for debate

Cerdenia

Alright then. I say we table it until we find out about how the Secretary bill passes, as to include all ministers in the process.

Developing World wrote:No, I looked in the RMB and we did not approve this bill. We approved the amendments and then sent it back to the House.

Ah apologies, you are right. I remember voting on the amendments and debating on the bill, so I thought it had already passed.

Developing World, Titanne

Cerdenia wrote:Ah apologies, you are right. I remember voting on the amendments and debating on the bill, so I thought it had already passed.

I apologise for posting on the senate RMB. But the House passed all but one Amendments and amended it ourselves. So u guys just need to vote on our one amendment we made.

Developing World

Rayekka wrote:I apologise for posting on the senate RMB. But the House passed all but one Amendments and amended it ourselves. So u guys just need to vote on our one amendment we made.

Developing World

This is incorrect. We never got to vote on the whole bill. And no worries, you are more than welcomed to post here if you want

H.B. 001 - MINISTERIAL HEARING ACT - VOTING

Author: Rayekka

Sponsor: Rayekka

Preamble

To further the checks & balances purpose of Congress. Hereby enacts the following.

Section 1

The purpose of Ministerial Hearings is for Congress to submit questions to a specific Minister in the executive government, to make sure progress and competence is being carried out by the executive branch. All members of the Government are subject to Ministerial Hearings. Members of the Government are defined as the Prime Minister, the Minister for Home Affairs, the Minister for Foreign Affairs, the Justice Minister, the Cultural/Entertainment Minister, and the Roleplay Minister. The President is not subject to Ministerial Hearings. Ministerial Hearings will be held on that Houses RMB.

Section 2

Every Monday, the House of Commons business will stop and the Speaker will call upon a Minister to speak in the House of Commons (what Minister is called is set out in Section 4). Throughout the week Members of Parliament will be able to submit questions to the Speaker. On Monday, the Speaker will then select and submit 5 questions to the Minister that must be answered that day.

When the Prime Minister is called to a hearing. The Speaker can select and submit 8 questions to the Prime Minister.

Ministers may also make statements to the House as separate to answering questions.

Section 3

Every Friday, Senate business will stop and the Senate President will call upon a Minister to speak in the Senate (what Minister is called is set out in Section 4). Throughout the week Senators will be able to submit questions to the Senate President. On Friday, the Senate President will then select and submit 5 questions to the Minister that must be answered that day.

When the Prime Minister is called to a hearing. The Senate President can select and submit 8 questions to the Prime Minister.

Ministers may also make statements to the Senate as separate to answering questions.

Section 4

Ministerial Hearings are ran on a 6 week schedule. The House of Commons & Senate schedules will be different.

House of Commons Schedule:

Week 1: The Prime Minister

Week 2: The Culture/Entertainment Minister

Week 3: The Foreign Affairs Minister

Week 4: The Justice Minister

Week 5: The Home Affairs Minister

Week 6: The Roleplay Minister

Senate Schedule:

Week 1: The Justice Minister

Week 2: The Home Affairs Minister

Week 3: The Roleplay Minister

Week 4: The Prime Minister

Week 5: The Culture/Entertainment Minister

Week 6: The Foreign Affairs Minister

Section 5

Urgent Ministerial Hearings are un-scheduled hearings that will be held if a group of Members of Parliament or Senators believe one is required.

In order for an Urgent Ministerial Hearing to be held, a proposal must be put to the floor of that chamber and passed with a simple majority. If the proposal passes, the Urgent Ministerial Hearing must be held within 3 days of the proposal being passed, not including Mondays and Fridays.

In the event of an Urgent Ministerial Hearing, members of the chamber holding the Hearing may submit questions as they please in which the Minister must answer all of them that day.

Urgent Ministerial Hearings will be held in that chambers RMB.

Section 6

This law shall come into effect the next Monday after this law is passed.

Amendment 1

The President, while not a subject of the Ministerial Hearings, must give a report to both chambers about the state of Thaecia and the future plans for the region after every 4 months passed. After that he must take at maximum 5 questions from each chamber selected by the Speaker/Chairman and asked by the members of the chamber.

Amendment 2

Exchange all references to 'Culture / Entertainment Minister' with 'Culture Minister'

Amendment 3

If a Minister does not attend 2 consecutive hearings, this will be grounds for impeachment. Unless they provide suitable a suitable excuse that should be determined by the Speaker of the House of Commons & Senate Chairman. If they believe it a poor excuse, they are responsible for organising an impeachment case in the court.

Aye: Developing World (TPU)

Nay:

Abstain:

Please vote as soon as possible!

Cerdenia

Titanne

Greater Conexus

Albianis

H.B. 001 - Ministerial Hearing Act - VOTING FINISHED

Author: Rayekka

Sponsor: Rayekka

Preamble

To further the checks & balances purpose of Congress. Hereby enacts the following.

Section 1

The purpose of Ministerial Hearings is for Congress to submit questions to a specific Minister in the executive government, to make sure progress and competence is being carried out by the executive branch. All members of the Government are subject to Ministerial Hearings. Members of the Government are defined as the Prime Minister, the Minister for Home Affairs, the Minister for Foreign Affairs, the Justice Minister, the Cultural/Entertainment Minister, and the Roleplay Minister. The President is not subject to Ministerial Hearings. Ministerial Hearings will be held on that Houses RMB.

Section 2

Every Monday, the House of Commons business will stop and the Speaker will call upon a Minister to speak in the House of Commons (what Minister is called is set out in Section 4). Throughout the week Members of Parliament will be able to submit questions to the Speaker. On Monday, the Speaker will then select and submit 5 questions to the Minister that must be answered that day.

When the Prime Minister is called to a hearing. The Speaker can select and submit 8 questions to the Prime Minister.

Ministers may also make statements to the House as separate to answering questions.

Section 3

Every Friday, Senate business will stop and the Senate President will call upon a Minister to speak in the Senate (what Minister is called is set out in Section 4). Throughout the week Senators will be able to submit questions to the Senate President. On Friday, the Senate President will then select and submit 5 questions to the Minister that must be answered that day.

When the Prime Minister is called to a hearing. The Senate President can select and submit 8 questions to the Prime Minister.

Ministers may also make statements to the Senate as separate to answering questions.

Section 4

Ministerial Hearings are ran on a 6 week schedule. The House of Commons & Senate schedules will be different.

House of Commons Schedule:

Week 1: The Prime Minister

Week 2: The Culture/Entertainment Minister

Week 3: The Foreign Affairs Minister

Week 4: The Justice Minister

Week 5: The Home Affairs Minister

Week 6: The Roleplay Minister

Senate Schedule:

Week 1: The Justice Minister

Week 2: The Home Affairs Minister

Week 3: The Roleplay Minister

Week 4: The Prime Minister

Week 5: The Culture/Entertainment Minister

Week 6: The Foreign Affairs Minister

Section 5

Urgent Ministerial Hearings are un-scheduled hearings that will be held if a group of Members of Parliament or Senators believe one is required.

In order for an Urgent Ministerial Hearing to be held, a proposal must be put to the floor of that chamber and passed with a simple majority. If the proposal passes, the Urgent Ministerial Hearing must be held within 3 days of the proposal being passed, not including Mondays and Fridays.

In the event of an Urgent Ministerial Hearing, members of the chamber holding the Hearing may submit questions as they please in which the Minister must answer all of them that day.

Urgent Ministerial Hearings will be held in that chambers RMB.

Section 6

This law shall come into effect the next Monday after this law is passed.

Amendment 1

The President, while not a subject of the Ministerial Hearings, must give a report to both chambers about the state of Thaecia and the future plans for the region after every 4 months passed. After that he must take at maximum 5 questions from each chamber selected by the Speaker/Chairman and asked by the members of the chamber.

Amendment 2

Exchange all references to 'Culture / Entertainment Minister' with 'Culture Minister'

Amendment 3

If a Minister does not attend 2 consecutive hearings, this will be grounds for impeachment. Unless they provide suitable a suitable excuse that should be determined by the Speaker of the House of Commons & Senate Chairman. If they believe it a poor excuse, they are responsible for organising an impeachment case in the court.

This bill has passed and will now become law.

Aye: Developing World (TPU), Cerdenia (PPT), Albianis (TPU), Titanne (TPU)

Nay:

Abstain:

Voting on this bill has ended.

Congrats for the second bill we passed into law!

Cerdenia, Xernon, Titanne

Do we have another bill to vote on now?

Greater Conexus wrote:Do we have another bill to vote on now?

We'll take a little break of a few hours. Then we will vote on other bills.

Parliament Procedures Act - H.B. 006 --- DEBATING

Author: Rayekka

Sponsor: Rayekka

Preamble

To define the proceedings of the House of Commons, also known as Parliament, and enshrine them into law. Hereby enacts the following:

Debates

i) The purpose of the debate stage is for Members of Parliament to share and discuss their opinions of the bill in question.

ii) Bills are entitled to a minimum of 12 hours debate and a maximum of 5 days debate. It is up to the Speaker how long a bill is debated for.

iii) All bills are entitled to a debate, as long as it complies with Article VIII.

Amendments

i) Amendments can be put forward by any Member of Parliament (MP) at anytime during the debate process.

ii) Amendments can change either part or all of the bill on the floor.

iii) Amendments shall be debated during the debate stage of the main bill.

iv) For each Amendment submitted, an additional 12 hours can be added to the maximum debate time set out in Article I, Section II. However, if the overall debate time is longer than 3 days, new amendments cannot be submitted.

Votes

i) The voting stage shall occur after debating has been ended by the Speaker.

ii) If any amendments have been submitted, the Speaker can choose whether to put any of these to vote.

iii) If the Speaker does choose amendments to go to vote, all amendments shall be voted on at the same time.

iv) Time spent voting on amendments must last a minimum of 6 hours and a maximum of 2 days.

v) If any amendments are voted in favour, the main bill will be changed in accordance with that amendment.

vi) Once amendment voting is complete, the main bill is voted on. If the main bill has been successfully amended, this must be displayed by stating: “As Amended By: [MPs Name]” under “Author” & “Sponsor”.

vii) Votes on the main bill must last a minimum of 12 hours and a maximum of 5 days.

viii) MPs can cast either an “Aye”, “Nay”, or “Abstain” vote.

ix) If an MP does not vote it is automatically recorded as an Abstention.

Speaker of the House of Commons

i) It is the role of the Speaker of the House of Commons (Speaker) to set the agenda, run debates & votes and maintain order in Parliament.

ii) It is the duty of the Speaker to maintain the legislative docket and law registries relating to the House of Commons.

iii) If a MP is disorderly by breaking the rules set out in Article XI the Speaker has the right to suspend them from the House of Commons for the remainder of that debate. This means the MP cannot speak on the House of Commons RMB until the debate has concluded.

iv) The Speaker has other rights which are set out throughout the rest of this Act.

v) There can only be one Speaker at any given time.

Deputy Speakers

i) The Deputy Speaker(s) position(s) should only ever be filled in the event of a Majority Coalition.

ii) Deputy Speaker(s) are appointed by the Speaker.

iii) The number of Deputy Speakers must be the same as there is coalition parties, not including the Speakers party and there cannot be more than one Deputy Speaker from each party. A MP from the Speakers party cannot be appointed Deputy Speaker.

iv) Deputy Speakers can take over the Speaker's role only if given direct permission from the Speaker. In the event this happens Deputy Speakers may exercise the rights set out for the Speaker in Article IV. These powers are removed from the Deputy Speaker upon the Speakers return.

Shadow Speaker of the House of Commons

i) In the event the Speaker has been inactive for 7 days or the Speaker role has been vacant for 5 days the Shadow Speaker of the House of Commons (Shadow Speaker) becomes Interim Speaker until the Speakers return or a new Speaker is selected.

ii) In the event of a Vote of No Confidence against the Speaker of House of Commons, the Shadow Speaker has the responsibility of running the debate and vote following the procedures set out in Article I and III.

Caucuses

i) There are Caucuses and sub-caucuses.

ii) Caucuses are party members within Parliament. Parties select a Leader to head their Caucus in Parliament and they shall be known as the “Caucus Leader”.

iii) Sub-caucuses are divisions within a party or Parliament itself. These aren’t seen as official and therefore being apart of them carries no legislative or role benefit.

iv) Sub-caucuses should not be limited unless they directly violate Thaecian core values and principles.

Proposing legislation

i) Any citizen of Thaecia can author legislation.

ii) In order for a bill to be put up for debate it must be sponsored by an MP.

iii) In order for a bill to be legal, it must contain a Bill Name, Author & Sponsor.

iv) It is recommended that bills are written by having headings as “Articles” and subheadings as “Sections” or just numbers. Roman numerals are recommended. World Assembly written bills are acceptable.

v) The Speaker may refuse to put a bill on the docket and request the Author rewrite the bill if it does not contain the requirements set out in Section III, is poorly written (e.g. spelling, punctuation & grammar) or contains profanity.

vi) The same piece of legislation cannot be voted or debate on more than once in a term of Parliament unless the bill was tabled by the Speaker (see Article XII).

Points of order

i) Points of Order are where MPs can ask the Speaker of the House of Commons a direct question.

ii) The Speaker is obliged to respond if the Point of Order is a question and it is made clear that the MP is making a point of order, unless the Point of Order is clearly a joke or is not related to House business.

iii) In order for an MP to make it clear they are making a Point of Order, they must say “Point of Order Mr/Ms Speaker.”, and then ask their question.

Titles

i) All Members of Parliament gain the “Honorable” title while they are a Member of Parliament. An MP will be known as an “Honorable Member” and must be officially referred to by this. “Friend”, “Gentleman” & “Lady” may be used as a substitute to “Member”.

ii) If a MP is a current or former Caucus Leader they earn the “Right Honorable” title. They will be known as a “Right Honourable Member” and be officially referred to by this. “Friend”, “Gentleman” & “Lady” may be used as a substitute to “Member”.

iii) “Hon.” can be used as a prefix for “Honourable”. “Rt. Hon.” can be used as a prefix for “Right Honourable”.

Behaviour in Parliament

i) All MPs must act professional and orderly in the House of Commons RMB.

ii) Disorderly behaviour is defined as using profanity, accusing a Member of something & calling a Member a name.

iii) Being disorderly can result in suspensions from the House.

Tabling

i) Tabling is where ongoing Commons business is sidelined by the Speaker to make way for a more urgent business.

ii) In the event a bill is tabled, its entitled debate & voting times are reset for when it goes back on the floor.

iii) The Speaker has the right to table any business at any time.

Adjournments

i) Adjournments are where the Speaker deliberately stops all business for a short period of time.

ii) Adjournments cannot last longer than 3 days if there is business to be put to the floor.

iii) Adjournments can be long lasting if there is no business to be put to the floor. As soon as a business is available it must be put to the floor within 2 days.

Recess

i) Recess can only be called by the Speaker.

ii) Recess must be called 24 hours before Parliamentary elections are held, but this can be sooner at the Speakers choice.

iii) The Speaker can call recess for Public Holidays if they so wish.

iv) The closing of a Parliamentary Session must be announced by the Speaker in a closing statement to the House of Commons. Once this is done the House will go into recess.

v) The opening of a Parliamentary Session must be announced by the Speaker in a opening statement to the House of Commons. This can only be done once a majority has been found. Once the opening statement is done business may begin in Parliament.

vi) Recess can be as long as necessary as it is for a reason set out in Article XIII, Sections II & III.

Amending this law

i) This Act is open for amendment as procedures change and adapt.

ii) To avoid abuse of government power, in order for this Act to be amended, it will require 2/3rds majority in the House of Commons and Senate.

Amendment 1

Amend Article III, Section VII from:

"a minimum voting time of 12 hours"

to

"a minimum voting time of 24 hours"

Amendment 2

Add Article III, Section X: "A parliament member may be allowed to cast their vote for a bill in advance should they signal that they might not otherwise be available during the regular voting period, provided no amendments pass on the bill."

Titanne, Cerdenia, Greater Conexus, Albianis, please express your views as possible on this bill! Also, as this is a HoC procedural bill, I would strongly recommend for us not to amend it

Developing World wrote:[spoiler]Parliament Procedures Act - H.B. 006 --- DEBATING

Author: Rayekka

Sponsor: Rayekka

Preamble

To define the proceedings of the House of Commons, also known as Parliament, and enshrine them into law. Hereby enacts the following:

Debates

i) The purpose of the debate stage is for Members of Parliament to share and discuss their opinions of the bill in question.

ii) Bills are entitled to a minimum of 12 hours debate and a maximum of 5 days debate. It is up to the Speaker how long a bill is debated for.

iii) All bills are entitled to a debate, as long as it complies with Article VIII.

Amendments

i) Amendments can be put forward by any Member of Parliament (MP) at anytime during the debate process.

ii) Amendments can change either part or all of the bill on the floor.

iii) Amendments shall be debated during the debate stage of the main bill.

iv) For each Amendment submitted, an additional 12 hours can be added to the maximum debate time set out in Article I, Section II. However, if the overall debate time is longer than 3 days, new amendments cannot be submitted.

Votes

i) The voting stage shall occur after debating has been ended by the Speaker.

ii) If any amendments have been submitted, the Speaker can choose whether to put any of these to vote.

iii) If the Speaker does choose amendments to go to vote, all amendments shall be voted on at the same time.

iv) Time spent voting on amendments must last a minimum of 6 hours and a maximum of 2 days.

v) If any amendments are voted in favour, the main bill will be changed in accordance with that amendment.

vi) Once amendment voting is complete, the main bill is voted on. If the main bill has been successfully amended, this must be displayed by stating: “As Amended By: [MPs Name]” under “Author” & “Sponsor”.

vii) Votes on the main bill must last a minimum of 12 hours and a maximum of 5 days.

viii) MPs can cast either an “Aye”, “Nay”, or “Abstain” vote.

ix) If an MP does not vote it is automatically recorded as an Abstention.

Speaker of the House of Commons

i) It is the role of the Speaker of the House of Commons (Speaker) to set the agenda, run debates & votes and maintain order in Parliament.

ii) It is the duty of the Speaker to maintain the legislative docket and law registries relating to the House of Commons.

iii) If a MP is disorderly by breaking the rules set out in Article XI the Speaker has the right to suspend them from the House of Commons for the remainder of that debate. This means the MP cannot speak on the House of Commons RMB until the debate has concluded.

iv) The Speaker has other rights which are set out throughout the rest of this Act.

v) There can only be one Speaker at any given time.

Deputy Speakers

i) The Deputy Speaker(s) position(s) should only ever be filled in the event of a Majority Coalition.

ii) Deputy Speaker(s) are appointed by the Speaker.

iii) The number of Deputy Speakers must be the same as there is coalition parties, not including the Speakers party and there cannot be more than one Deputy Speaker from each party. A MP from the Speakers party cannot be appointed Deputy Speaker.

iv) Deputy Speakers can take over the Speaker's role only if given direct permission from the Speaker. In the event this happens Deputy Speakers may exercise the rights set out for the Speaker in Article IV. These powers are removed from the Deputy Speaker upon the Speakers return.

Shadow Speaker of the House of Commons

i) In the event the Speaker has been inactive for 7 days or the Speaker role has been vacant for 5 days the Shadow Speaker of the House of Commons (Shadow Speaker) becomes Interim Speaker until the Speakers return or a new Speaker is selected.

ii) In the event of a Vote of No Confidence against the Speaker of House of Commons, the Shadow Speaker has the responsibility of running the debate and vote following the procedures set out in Article I and III.

Caucuses

i) There are Caucuses and sub-caucuses.

ii) Caucuses are party members within Parliament. Parties select a Leader to head their Caucus in Parliament and they shall be known as the “Caucus Leader”.

iii) Sub-caucuses are divisions within a party or Parliament itself. These aren’t seen as official and therefore being apart of them carries no legislative or role benefit.

iv) Sub-caucuses should not be limited unless they directly violate Thaecian core values and principles.

Proposing legislation

i) Any citizen of Thaecia can author legislation.

ii) In order for a bill to be put up for debate it must be sponsored by an MP.

iii) In order for a bill to be legal, it must contain a Bill Name, Author & Sponsor.

iv) It is recommended that bills are written by having headings as “Articles” and subheadings as “Sections” or just numbers. Roman numerals are recommended. World Assembly written bills are acceptable.

v) The Speaker may refuse to put a bill on the docket and request the Author rewrite the bill if it does not contain the requirements set out in Section III, is poorly written (e.g. spelling, punctuation & grammar) or contains profanity.

vi) The same piece of legislation cannot be voted or debate on more than once in a term of Parliament unless the bill was tabled by the Speaker (see Article XII).

Points of order

i) Points of Order are where MPs can ask the Speaker of the House of Commons a direct question.

ii) The Speaker is obliged to respond if the Point of Order is a question and it is made clear that the MP is making a point of order, unless the Point of Order is clearly a joke or is not related to House business.

iii) In order for an MP to make it clear they are making a Point of Order, they must say “Point of Order Mr/Ms Speaker.”, and then ask their question.

Titles

i) All Members of Parliament gain the “Honorable” title while they are a Member of Parliament. An MP will be known as an “Honorable Member” and must be officially referred to by this. “Friend”, “Gentleman” & “Lady” may be used as a substitute to “Member”.

ii) If a MP is a current or former Caucus Leader they earn the “Right Honorable” title. They will be known as a “Right Honourable Member” and be officially referred to by this. “Friend”, “Gentleman” & “Lady” may be used as a substitute to “Member”.

iii) “Hon.” can be used as a prefix for “Honourable”. “Rt. Hon.” can be used as a prefix for “Right Honourable”.

Behaviour in Parliament

i) All MPs must act professional and orderly in the House of Commons RMB.

ii) Disorderly behaviour is defined as using profanity, accusing a Member of something & calling a Member a name.

iii) Being disorderly can result in suspensions from the House.

Tabling

i) Tabling is where ongoing Commons business is sidelined by the Speaker to make way for a more urgent business.

ii) In the event a bill is tabled, its entitled debate & voting times are reset for when it goes back on the floor.

iii) The Speaker has the right to table any business at any time.

Adjournments

i) Adjournments are where the Speaker deliberately stops all business for a short period of time.

ii) Adjournments cannot last longer than 3 days if there is business to be put to the floor.

iii) Adjournments can be long lasting if there is no business to be put to the floor. As soon as a business is available it must be put to the floor within 2 days.

Recess

i) Recess can only be called by the Speaker.

ii) Recess must be called 24 hours before Parliamentary elections are held, but this can be sooner at the Speakers choice.

iii) The Speaker can call recess for Public Holidays if they so wish.

iv) The closing of a Parliamentary Session must be announced by the Speaker in a closing statement to the House of Commons. Once this is done the House will go into recess.

v) The opening of a Parliamentary Session must be announced by the Speaker in a opening statement to the House of Commons. This can only be done once a majority has been found. Once the opening statement is done business may begin in Parliament.

vi) Recess can be as long as necessary as it is for a reason set out in Article XIII, Sections II & III.

Amending this law

i) This Act is open for amendment as procedures change and adapt.

ii) To avoid abuse of government power, in order for this Act to be amended, it will require 2/3rds majority in the House of Commons and Senate.

Amendment 1

Amend Article III, Section VII from:

"a minimum voting time of 12 hours"

to

"a minimum voting time of 24 hours"

Amendment 2

Add Article III, Section X: "A parliament member may be allowed to cast their vote for a bill in advance should they signal that they might not otherwise be available during the regular voting period, provided no amendments pass on the bill."[/spoiler]

Titanne, Cerdenia, Greater Conexus, Albianis, please express your views as possible on this bill! Also, as this is a HoC procedural bill, I would strongly recommend for us not to amend it

Please for the love of god, put a spoiler Mr Chairman, let's not fill this RMB with quotes of this bill.

As for my opinion, I actually contributed a bit to this bill myself when it was originally proposed by Rayekka, and as such am generally supportive of it, although still have a few disagreements. However I encourage all of the Senators to vote in favour of this one without wasting time with amendments, I say this because the bill is in regards to procedures of the House of Commons, and doesen't affect our Senate. The MPs voted in favour of this bill, let's respect the House's supremacy over it's own procedures and approve this bill.

Rayekka, Developing World

Cerdenia wrote:Please for the love of god, put a spoiler Mr Chairman, let's not fill this RMB with quotes of this bill.

As for my opinion, I actually contributed a bit to this bill myself when it was originally proposed by Rayekka, and as such am generally supportive of it, although still have a few disagreements. However I encourage all of the Senators to vote in favour of this one without wasting time with amendments, I say this because the bill is in regards to procedures of the House of Commons, and doesen't affect our Senate. The MPs voted in favour of this bill, let's respect the House's supremacy over it's own procedures and approve this bill.

Couldn't have said it myself better

Parliament Procedures Act - H.B. 006 --- VOTING PHASE

Author: Rayekka

Sponsor: Rayekka

Preamble:

To define the proceedings of the House of Commons, also known as Parliament, and enshrine them into law. Hereby enacts the following:

Debates

i) The purpose of the debate stage is for Members of Parliament to share and discuss their opinions of the bill in question.

ii) Bills are entitled to a minimum of 12 hours debate and a maximum of 5 days debate. It is up to the Speaker how long a bill is debated for.

iii) All bills are entitled to a debate, as long as it complies with Article VIII.

Amendments

i) Amendments can be put forward by any Member of Parliament (MP) at anytime during the debate process.

ii) Amendments can change either part or all of the bill on the floor.

iii) Amendments shall be debated during the debate stage of the main bill.

iv) For each Amendment submitted, an additional 12 hours can be added to the maximum debate time set out in Article I, Section II. However, if the overall debate time is longer than 3 days, new amendments cannot be submitted.

Votes

i) The voting stage shall occur after debating has been ended by the Speaker.

ii) If any amendments have been submitted, the Speaker can choose whether to put any of these to vote.

iii) If the Speaker does choose amendments to go to vote, all amendments shall be voted on at the same time.

iv) Time spent voting on amendments must last a minimum of 6 hours and a maximum of 2 days.

v) If any amendments are voted in favour, the main bill will be changed in accordance with that amendment.

vi) Once amendment voting is complete, the main bill is voted on. If the main bill has been successfully amended, this must be displayed by stating: “As Amended By: [MPs Name]” under “Author” & “Sponsor”.

vii) Votes on the main bill must last a minimum of 12 hours and a maximum of 5 days.

viii) MPs can cast either an “Aye”, “Nay”, or “Abstain” vote.

ix) If an MP does not vote it is automatically recorded as an Abstention.

Speaker of the House of Commons

i) It is the role of the Speaker of the House of Commons (Speaker) to set the agenda, run debates & votes and maintain order in Parliament.

ii) It is the duty of the Speaker to maintain the legislative docket and law registries relating to the House of Commons.

iii) If a MP is disorderly by breaking the rules set out in Article XI the Speaker has the right to suspend them from the House of Commons for the remainder of that debate. This means the MP cannot speak on the House of Commons RMB until the debate has concluded.

iv) The Speaker has other rights which are set out throughout the rest of this Act.

v) There can only be one Speaker at any given time.

Deputy Speakers

i) The Deputy Speaker(s) position(s) should only ever be filled in the event of a Majority Coalition.

ii) Deputy Speaker(s) are appointed by the Speaker.

iii) The number of Deputy Speakers must be the same as there is coalition parties, not including the Speakers party and there cannot be more than one Deputy Speaker from each party. A MP from the Speakers party cannot be appointed Deputy Speaker.

iv) Deputy Speakers can take over the Speaker's role only if given direct permission from the Speaker. In the event this happens Deputy Speakers may exercise the rights set out for the Speaker in Article IV. These powers are removed from the Deputy Speaker upon the Speakers return.

Shadow Speaker of the House of Commons

i) In the event the Speaker has been inactive for 7 days or the Speaker role has been vacant for 5 days the Shadow Speaker of the House of Commons (Shadow Speaker) becomes Interim Speaker until the Speakers return or a new Speaker is selected.

ii) In the event of a Vote of No Confidence against the Speaker of House of Commons, the Shadow Speaker has the responsibility of running the debate and vote following the procedures set out in Article I and III.

Caucuses

i) There are Caucuses and sub-caucuses.

ii) Caucuses are party members within Parliament. Parties select a Leader to head their Caucus in Parliament and they shall be known as the “Caucus Leader”.

iii) Sub-caucuses are divisions within a party or Parliament itself. These aren’t seen as official and therefore being apart of them carries no legislative or role benefit.

iv) Sub-caucuses should not be limited unless they directly violate Thaecian core values and principles.

Proposing legislation

i) Any citizen of Thaecia can author legislation.

ii) In order for a bill to be put up for debate it must be sponsored by an MP.

iii) In order for a bill to be legal, it must contain a Bill Name, Author & Sponsor.

iv) It is recommended that bills are written by having headings as “Articles” and subheadings as “Sections” or just numbers. Roman numerals are recommended. World Assembly written bills are acceptable.

v) The Speaker may refuse to put a bill on the docket and request the Author rewrite the bill if it does not contain the requirements set out in Section III, is poorly written (e.g. spelling, punctuation & grammar) or contains profanity.

vi) The same piece of legislation cannot be voted or debate on more than once in a term of Parliament unless the bill was tabled by the Speaker (see Article XII).

Points of order

i) Points of Order are where MPs can ask the Speaker of the House of Commons a direct question.

ii) The Speaker is obliged to respond if the Point of Order is a question and it is made clear that the MP is making a point of order, unless the Point of Order is clearly a joke or is not related to House business.

iii) In order for an MP to make it clear they are making a Point of Order, they must say “Point of Order Mr/Ms Speaker.”, and then ask their question.

Titles

i) All Members of Parliament gain the “Honorable” title while they are a Member of Parliament. An MP will be known as an “Honorable Member” and must be officially referred to by this. “Friend”, “Gentleman” & “Lady” may be used as a substitute to “Member”.

ii) If a MP is a current or former Caucus Leader they earn the “Right Honorable” title. They will be known as a “Right Honourable Member” and be officially referred to by this. “Friend”, “Gentleman” & “Lady” may be used as a substitute to “Member”.

iii) “Hon.” can be used as a prefix for “Honourable”. “Rt. Hon.” can be used as a prefix for “Right Honourable”.

Behaviour in Parliament

i) All MPs must act professional and orderly in the House of Commons RMB.

ii) Disorderly behaviour is defined as using profanity, accusing a Member of something & calling a Member a name.

iii) Being disorderly can result in suspensions from the House.

Tabling

i) Tabling is where ongoing Commons business is sidelined by the Speaker to make way for a more urgent business.

ii) In the event a bill is tabled, its entitled debate & voting times are reset for when it goes back on the floor.

iii) The Speaker has the right to table any business at any time.

Adjournments

i) Adjournments are where the Speaker deliberately stops all business for a short period of time.

ii) Adjournments cannot last longer than 3 days if there is business to be put to the floor.

iii) Adjournments can be long lasting if there is no business to be put to the floor. As soon as a business is available it must be put to the floor within 2 days.

Recess

i) Recess can only be called by the Speaker.

ii) Recess must be called 24 hours before Parliamentary elections are held, but this can be sooner at the Speakers choice.

iii) The Speaker can call recess for Public Holidays if they so wish.

iv) The closing of a Parliamentary Session must be announced by the Speaker in a closing statement to the House of Commons. Once this is done the House will go into recess.

v) The opening of a Parliamentary Session must be announced by the Speaker in a opening statement to the House of Commons. This can only be done once a majority has been found. Once the opening statement is done business may begin in Parliament.

vi) Recess can be as long as necessary as it is for a reason set out in Article XIII, Sections II & III.

Amending this law

i) This Act is open for amendment as procedures change and adapt.

ii) To avoid abuse of government power, in order for this Act to be amended, it will require 2/3rds majority in the House of Commons and Senate.

Amendment 1

Amend Article III, Section VII from:

"a minimum voting time of 12 hours"

to

"a minimum voting time of 24 hours"

Amendment 2

Add Article III, Section X: "A parliament member may be allowed to cast their vote for a bill in advance should they signal that they might not otherwise be available during the regular voting period, provided no amendments pass on the bill."

I will put spoilers to the next bill, stay calm and less partisan!

Voting on this bill has officially begun.

Aye: Developing World (TPU)

Nay:

Abstain:

Please vote as soon as possible! Titanne, Greater Conexus, Albianis

Cerdenia

Aye

Shame I was the only one to give my opinion again...

Cerdenia wrote:Aye

Shame I was the only one to give my opinion again...

I was going to say it but you said the same thing so I just seconded that.

Cerdenia

H.B. 006 - PARLIAMENT PROCEDURES ACT - VOTING ENDED

AYE: Developing World (TPU), Cerdenia (PPT), Albianis (TPU), Titanne (TPU), Greater Conexus (TSP)

NAY:

ABSTAIN:

This bill has passed

Duras

S.B. 005 - Judicial Reform Act - DEBATE

Author: Titanne

Sponsor: Titanne

Preamble

In regard to the judicial system, Thaecia is inferior to many other regions. Our system is dysfunctional and not specific enough. With the purpose of cleaning this branch of our government, hereby enacts:

Number of justices

Given the pattern followed by our Senate and House of Commons, in order to prevent ties, there should be 5 justices.

Confirmation

These justices will be appointed by the Prime Minister and confirmed by at least 9 out of the 13 members of Thaecia’s legislative branch. If the Prime Minister’s pick is turned down, then he shall appoint another candidate. This candidate must also be confirmed in the same way.

The Chief Justice

The Chief Justice may not be appointed, but will always be the member of the high court who has served the longest. For the case of the first ever justices, the person who is confirmed by the largest margin will be appointed to the position.

Court activity

All court rulings require a majority, and not all cases will be accepted or ruled on. It is up to the Chief Justice to determine what cases will be heard and which will not.

Cerdenia, Titanne, Greater Conexus, Albianis, please express your opinions as soon as possible!

Duras

I am opposing this bill, for the following reasons:

1. I believe 3 justices is much more appropiate than 5, at least for the beggining

2. It is better for the Chief Justice to be decided by the PM

3. Already in the Constitution it is said that the Senate must confirm the judges and the House the cabinet positions. It is best this way, and to enact this bill it would likely require a Constitutional Amendment

Duras

I suggest “9 out of 13” opinions be changed to a majority in each of the houses. 9 out of 13 means that the House would have disproportionate power over electing candidates in.

Duras

All of these ideas are fine with me. And Developing World, I wrote this bill intending for the full citizenry to be politically active, so I agree that 3 is more reasonable at this point.

Developing World, Duras

Titanne wrote:All of these ideas are fine with me. And [nation]Developing World[/nation, I wrote this bill intending for the full citizenry to be politically active, so I agree that 3 is more reasonable at this point.

I will introduce some Amendments to it, but the base is good. It just need some work on the details

Duras, Albianis

Developing World wrote:[spoiler]S.B. 005 - Judicial Reform Act - DEBATE

Author: Titanne

Sponsor: Titanne

Preamble

In regard to the judicial system, Thaecia is inferior to many other regions. Our system is dysfunctional and not specific enough. With the purpose of cleaning this branch of our government, hereby enacts:

Number of justices

Given the pattern followed by our Senate and House of Commons, in order to prevent ties, there should be 5 justices.

Confirmation

These justices will be appointed by the Prime Minister and confirmed by at least 9 out of the 13 members of Thaecia’s legislative branch. If the Prime Minister’s pick is turned down, then he shall appoint another candidate. This candidate must also be confirmed in the same way.

The Chief Justice

The Chief Justice may not be appointed, but will always be the member of the high court who has served the longest. For the case of the first ever justices, the person who is confirmed by the largest margin will be appointed to the position.

Court activity

All court rulings require a majority, and not all cases will be accepted or ruled on. It is up to the Chief Justice to determine what cases will be heard and which will not.

Cerdenia, Titanne, Greater Conexus, Albianis, please express your opinions as soon as possible![/spoiler]

I am opposed to this bill because:

1 - It is not constitutional, as it delimits a number of justices for the region, which can't be done through a regular bill because the constitution already makes it clear that the number of justices is 3.

2 - We haven't even appointed our justices yet, we should first get our court running, then look at it's problems and see how we can improve it.

Andusre, Duras

Could we table the bill until after the justices are approved? Also, once we get to it, I will amend it to keep the number of justices at 3.

Duras

Debate time over! Now it is time for Amendments!

Cerdenia

Albianis

Titanne

Greater Conexus

1st Amendment proposal:

The High Court will have 3 justices

2nd Amendment proposal:

The justices need to be confirmed by 3 out of the 5 Senators.

I would've personally waited for the constitution to be ratified and amended before bringing this bill to the floor.

Though I'm not opposed to this bill.

Sorry that I missed the debate time, was doing an essay.

Albianis wrote:I would've personally waited for the constitution to be ratified and amended before bringing this bill to the floor.

Though I'm not opposed to this bill.

Sorry that I missed the debate time, was doing an essay.

That is what I was saying. I was under the impression that this bill would be released for debate after the justices were confirmed, but that was incorrect. I agree with both of Developing World’s Amendments.

I've just noticed another problem regarding unconstitutionally, the bill states:

"These justices will be appointed by the Prime Minister and confirmed by at least 9 out of the 13 members of Thaecia’s legislative branch. "

This is unconstitutional because of this:

"Justices will be nominated by the PM and will take their seats on the court if/when they are confirmed by half of the Senate's members"

Since the constitution already clarifies that it is the Senate which confirms the justices, a regular bill technically can't change that. And that isn't even the only peoblem, the bill states that they are confirmed by 9 out of 13 members of the legislative branch, problem is that there are only 12 members on the legislative branch, not 13.

Now senators I know that the constitution is technically not yet being enforced, but let's think of the future, when the constitution finally is confirmed this law will automatically become unconstitutional. I implore to the senators that we first confirm our justices, we already have the structure to do that under our current constitution, then if we realise any problems we can look to passing any bills which alter the way the court works or anything like that.

[Spoiler=Senators]

Developing World

Titanne

Albianis

Greater Conexus

[/spoiler]

Cerdenia wrote:I've just noticed another problem regarding unconstitutionally, the bill states:

"These justices will be appointed by the Prime Minister and confirmed by at least 9 out of the 13 members of Thaecia’s legislative branch. "

This is unconstitutional because of this:

"Justices will be nominated by the PM and will take their seats on the court if/when they are confirmed by half of the Senate's members"

Since the constitution already clarifies that it is the Senate which confirms the justices, a regular bill technically can't change that. And that isn't even the only peoblem, the bill states that they are confirmed by 9 out of 13 members of the legislative branch, problem is that there are only 12 members on the legislative branch, not 13.

Now senators I know that the constitution is technically not yet being enforced, but let's think of the future, when the constitution finally is confirmed this law will automatically become unconstitutional. I implore to the senators that we first confirm our justices, we already have the structure to do that under our current constitution, then if we realise any problems we can look to passing any bills which alter the way the court works or anything like that.

[Spoiler=Senators]

Developing World

Titanne

Albianis

Greater Conexus

[/spoiler]

Yes, Cerdenia, we were just talking about that. It is rectified by one of the above amendments.

Developing World wrote:Debate time over! Now it is time for Amendments!

[nation]Cerdenia[/nation]

[nation]Albianis[/nation]

[nation]Titanne[/nation]

[nation]Greater Conexus[/nation]

[nation]Developing World[/nation, it seems that a majority of senators wish to push the passing of this bill back until after we confirm the justices.

Since it seems no one has more Amendments we will vote on mine.

Amendment 1

Author: Developing World

The High Court will have 3 justices.

Amendment 2

Author: Developing World

The justices need to be confirmed by 3 of the 5 Senators.

Please vote as soon as possible, Cerdenia,Titanne, Greater Conexus,

Albianis!

Nay to both

This bill doesen't deserve to be voted on now, and these amendments are amending stuff that shouldn't even be in the bill on the 1st place.

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