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Apart from what has been said by my fellow Senators, I believe it is a good amendment.

Alright well, seeing as I both have no clue how to write it in an amendment, we're at the end of the term, and it's a pretty clear consensus y'all don't like increasing the minimum seats, I'll just change the bill without an amendment.

We shall now vote.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1447875

My vote is Aye

[spoiler=Senators]Brototh

Rayekka

Dendrobium

Marvinville

Islonia

Pap Sculgief

Ashlawn

World Trade[/spoiler]

The Senate of Thaecia is now in official recess.

May I say it has been an absolute pleasure to work with all of you. I apologise that the term has to end so prematurely, but we all deserve quite a long rest -- especially those of us that have been here for 4 months -- and especially with the recent events in Thaecian politics that have tired some of us out. Working with all of you has been an absolute dream and I wouldn't trade it for anything else.

I hope to see all of you successful in your future endeavours in Thaecia, whether that be retirement, the Executive, another term in the legislative, or elsewhere. See you again soon! o7

[spoiler=Senate of June - October 2020]

Andusre

Snowflame

Brototh

Rayekka

Dendrobium

Marvinville

Islonia

Pap Sculgief

Ashlawn

World Trade[/spoiler]

Ashlawn, World Trade, Rayekka, Pap Sculgief, Islonia, Snowflame, Andusre, Emazia, Dendrobium, Vjeresland, Marvinville, The Peoples Caribbean Union

As this is my formal last day in office I am going to do what I promised to do for ages.

I now officially resign as Chairman of the Senate and Senator. It's the last day suckers, whatcha gonna do? 😎😎

Antenion, Hulldom, The Bigtopia, Emazia, Dendrobium, Vjeresland, The Peoples Caribbean Union

In an effort to tie up loose ends from any alternate timelines, I too am resigning from the Senate. It was an honour to serve in those other timelines but I do believe that if I managed to make it a full term without ragequitting then I wouldn't be resigning on the last day, so I might as well quantum cross and do it now.

Thank you to my fellow Senators, I love you all, mostly Dendro and Thot,

Fmr. Sen. Diz

Antenion, Hulldom, Brototh, The Bigtopia, Emazia, Dendrobium, The Peoples Caribbean Union

Post self-deleted by Brototh.

Post self-deleted by Taungu.

ORRRRRRRR-DAHHHHHH!!!

Swearing in of Senators;

Congratulations to all those duly chosen by the people of Thaecia! You are now under the gaze of all those watchful citizens of Thaecia!

Senators-elect, please take the following oath to be inaugurated into the chamber:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of Thaecia against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter."

[spoiler=Senators-elect]Ashlawn (IND)

Brototh (TPU)

Cydoni (IND)

Dendrobium (SOL)

Emazia (TPU)

Hulldom (LPT)

Marvinville (TFP)

Rayekka (IND)

World Trade (LPT)

[/spoiler]

- Taungu

Electoral Commissioner of Thaecia

The Bigtopia, Marvinville

"I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of Thaecia against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter."

Taungu, World Trade, The Bigtopia, Dendrobium

I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of Thaecia against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter.

Taungu, World Trade, The Bigtopia, Emazia, Dendrobium

I, World Trade, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of Thaecia against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter.

Taungu, The Bigtopia, Emazia, Dendrobium

do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of Thaecia against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter.

Taungu, World Trade, Emazia, Marvinville

I do solemnly affirm that I will support and defend the Constitution of Thaecia against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter.

Taungu, World Trade, The Bigtopia, Emazia, Marvinville

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of Thaecia against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter."

Taungu, World Trade, The Bigtopia, Emazia, Marvinville

"I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of Thaecia against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter."

Taungu, World Trade, The Bigtopia, Emazia, Marvinville

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of Thaecia against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter."

Taungu, World Trade, The Bigtopia, Emazia, Marvinville

I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of Thaecia against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter.

Taungu, World Trade, The Bigtopia, Emazia

Are we actually going to have the election for Chair/do anything? Or...just not?

ORRRRRRRR-DAHHHHHH!!!

Candidacy Declaration for Senate Chairman

We will now hold an election to officiate the next Senate Chairman, starting first with a period of candidacy declarations, followed by a second stage of statements/discussion, before ending off a third stage with voting.

If you would like to run in the election, please announce your candidacy for Chairman in the RMB and tag me in the post!

This period of candidacy declarations shall be open until every Senator has either declared their intent/non-intent to run to me privately or publicly, or until 24 hours have elapsed, whichever happens first.

Senators, if you wish to run for the position of Chairman, please declare your candidacy now.

[spoiler=Senators]Ashlawn (IND)

Brototh (TPU)

Cydoni (IND)

Dendrobium (SOL)

Emazia (TPU)

Hulldom (LPT)

Marvinville (TFP)

Rayekka (IND)

World Trade (LPT)

[/spoiler]

- Taungu

Electoral Commissioner of Thaecia

Brototh, The Bigtopia

Taungu, I'm going to run for Chair.

I would like to note to my fellow Senators that I am doing this merely as the Senator with the most votes from the second-largest party and not as a serious challenge.

Previous chair Brototh has done a fine job in the Chair and I sincerely hope he continues on in the position.

Taungu

As we said on the senate GC, it's just unfortunate that Hulldom would bring partisan politics into this. If he said I'm running so I have a Shadow, I would be fine with it, but bringing old politics into this is just an odd move.

I am of course running.

Taungu, Hulldom, The Bigtopia, Emazia, Gallo Republic, Marvinville

Brototh wrote:As we said on the senate GC, it's just unfortunate that Hulldom would bring partisan politics into this. If he said I'm running so I have a Shadow, I would be fine with it, but bringing old politics into this is just an odd move.

I am of course running.

I mean, that's partially why I'm doing it, but the partisan element remains. In any case, I'm entitled to frame it how I like so *shrug*.

ORRRRRRRR-DAHHHHHH!!!

Discussion/Statements Period for Chairman of the Senate

Thank you for tolerating the wait!

As I'm sure you've noticed, the candidacy declaration period has elapsed with two candidates stepping forward;

Brototh (TPU) and Hulldom (LPT)

We shall now enter a brief statements period where any sitting Senator may choose to make a statement on which candidate they view as best suited or who they support for taking up the mantle of the Senate Chairman and why they hold such a view. Any in the chamber may voice their views of consternation or confidence in any of the declared candidates.

This period shall last for 12 hours or until each member in the chamber has been able to express their view, whichever happens first.

If someone does not intend to make a statement, send a TG/DM informing me of your intention not to speak.

Senators, if you would like to make a statement regarding one of the candidates, please do so now.

[spoiler=Senators]

Ashlawn (IND)

Brototh (TPU)

Cydoni (IND)

Dendrobium (SOL)

Emazia (TPU)

Hulldom (LPT)

Marvinville (TFP)

Rayekka (IND)

World Trade (LPT)

[/spoiler]

- Taungu

Electoral Commissioner of Thaecia

The Bigtopia

I speak now to my fellow Senators of Thaecia, on the matter of this Senate Chair election. The Senate Chair election is one that is very important, electing the third highest office in the land, and certainly the highest of that in the legislature. And so, I think we need to take a look back and examine the options that lie before us. While no doubt we have two very qualified candidates lying before us - with Senator Hulldom being a very experienced and well-regarded Thaecian and Senator Brototh being an accomplished Senator and indeed the former Chair of this Senate - it has become very clear to me that there is a necessity for a full-throated, unabashed endorsement of who I believe to be the most qualified out of the two here.

First, however, I will give some positive feedback about both - first off, Senator Hulldom has very clear and extensive legislative experience, first in the New Western Empire and in the Democratic Republic, and later in Thaecia, having acted as a 3 term and 2 term Senator in both regions respectively, showing clear legislative effectiveness and experience at the position, even acting as the Chancellor of the Imperial Senate in the NWE, along with having experience at home as Deputy EC and Speaker showing organisational skills, and overall building experience.

However, I believe that Senator Brototh is a better option. This is simply for one very clear reason: while of course Senator Brototh is qualified in other ways, including their previous experiences in the House of Commons and Senate, but simply because under the time of Senator Brototh we have achieved remarkable efficiency, burning through the docket, all the way to get to the Yogurt Viscosity Act. And what is not broken does not need to be fixed, and as such I believe in retaining the status quo as it is. Senator Brototh is a highly qualified candidate, a previous Senate CHair who presided over amazing levels of legislative speed and swiftness.

Ultimately, as qualified as the other candidate may be, I have to throw my hat in the ring for Senator Brototh. I fundamentally think that this Senate has done great things, and under their continued leadership and competence can we continue the precedent set by the previous term of this Senate. That is why I am happy to endorse my friend, Senator Brototh, for Senate Chair. A metaphorical toast to them, my fellow Senators, as I believe we will see great days ahead.

Taungu, Gallo Republic

Post by Gallo Republic suppressed by Chairman Brototh.

Gallo Republic

I'll say it here in the Senate, as an MP. I just want to say something for my endorsement on Senate Chairman.

My Senate Chairman Endorsement: Emazia made a great statement on his endorsement for Senate Chairman. I also endorse Brototh over Hulldom because I think Brototh has already done great things for the Senate, and will continue this. Brototh has worked with me on personal and Thaecian issues, I have full confidence in Brototh. Hulldom is not a bad candidate. It's just I haven't worked with him and enough, but my problem is he brings party politics into times when I don't think it's very appropriate or necessary. Even though I am a member of the Solidarity Party, I do respect the TPU's leadership in Thaecia, and I ultimately think that they are more in Thaecian interests than the LPT. This is not an attack on Hulldom, but rather a commendation of Brototh.

Whatever happens, I have full confidence that the Members of Thaecian Parliament, will do what's in Thaecia's best future.

While I appreciate the kind words, MP, you still can't post here.

ORRRRRRRR-DAHHHHHH!!!

Voting Period for Chairman of the Senate

As the time for discussion has now elapsed and with no further comments or questions on behalf of the remaining Senators, we shall now enter into voting to decide the next Chairman.

The Senators placing their names forward to contend for the Chairmanship of the Senate are as follows:

Hon. Brototh (TPU)

Hon. Hulldom (LPT)

Senators, you may now cast your votes for your preferred candidate out of the aforementioned list by stating the name of the candidate you wish to see as Senate Chairman.

[spoiler=Senators]

Ashlawn (IND)

Brototh (TPU)

Cydoni (IND)

Dendrobium (SOL)

Emazia (TPU)

Hulldom (LPT)

Marvinville (TFP)

Rayekka (IND)

World Trade (LPT)

[/spoiler]

- Taungu

Electoral Commissioner of Thaecia

I am voting for Senator Brototh to be our next Senate Chairman

Taungu, Brototh, Emazia, Gallo Republic, Peabodia

I vote for the Hon. Brototh to take up the role as Senate Chairman.

Taungu, Brototh, Emazia, Peabodia

Brototh. I think (s)he's pretty cool (haha, no gender for y'all)

Taungu, Emazia

I vote Senator Brototh for Senate Chairman.

Taungu, Brototh, Emazia, Gallo Republic

I vote for Brototh for Senate Chair

Taungu, Brototh, Emazia, Gallo Republic

I vote Senator Brototh for Senate Chair.

Taungu, Brototh, Gallo Republic

I'm voting for myself, Hulldom. Best of luck to you, Brototh.

Taungu, Brototh

My vote for Chairperson of the Senate goes to Brototh.

Taungu, Brototh

I vote for Brototh

Taungu, Brototh

ORRRRRRRR-DAHHHHHH!!!

Results for Chairman of the Senate

With all of the votes submitted from the Senators, here are the official results!

Hon. Brototh [8]: Ashlawn, Brototh, Cydoni, Dendrobium, Emazia, Marvinville, Rayekka, World Trade

Hon. Hulldom [1]: Hulldom

Therefore, Brototh retakes their prior role as the Eleventh Chair of the Senate, presiding over its eighth term!

As the challenger Hulldom gained the second highest amount of votes, they are now the Shadow Chair of the Senate!

Congratulations to both the candidates! May a fruitful and efficient Senate term be seen!

This is Taungu, signing off from Interim Senate Chair Duties o7

- Taungu

Electoral Commissioner of Thaecia

Brototh

Alright lads well I wasn't really expecting this at 20 to 11 at night, so I'm just going to stick on the first bill I can find.

might style myself as Rt. Hon. Sen Chr. Brototh for the next 4 months to annoy Andy

I will have at least two deputy chairs this term, very possibly 3 as I want to spread across the experience of chamber leadership to as many as possible (especially the newest senators), however for now I will be selecting just Ashlawn. Welcome back fren, you're not im:b:eached y et

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1458186

House passed this at the end of their term. Didn't want to start with military anyway, want to ease the new Senators into debating and voting and procedures.

[spoiler=Senators]

Ashlawn (IND)

Brototh (TPU)

Cydoni (IND)

Dendrobium (SOL)

Emazia (TPU)

Hulldom (LPT)

Marvinville (TFP)

Rayekka (IND)

World Trade (LPT)[/spoiler]

Taungu, Emazia, Dendrobium, Marvinville

IÂ’d like to thank Senate Chairman Brototh for again selecting me as his deputy chair and not impeaching me, yet. (post from discord)

World Trade, Brototh, Emazia, Gallo Republic

Just my two cents here on this: 1) in order for this even be passably coherent, there needs to be a comma between "...or the Speaker returns, or...", 2) I don't particularly like the idea of the Shadow Speaker taking over in the event the Speaker goes inactive and there is no Deputy Speaker to take over, it feels manifestly unfair that they can just take over in that instance.

2) As someone who had to deal with an inactive Speaker, it's not a fun experience, but you don't necessarily feel empowered to take over from the Speaker regardless of their activity status.

3) Also "the Shadow Speaker shall become Interim Speaker until a new Speaker is selected if the position was previously unfilled" is incoherent. There is no shadow speaker at the start of a term and even in the term, again, return to point 1.

4) Everything here should be predicated for the last phrase "loses a vote of no confidence in inactivity". A vote of confidence should be triggered after some period of inactivity.

This amendment is such a mess that I can't vote for it.

Also, pursuant to Clause 6(ii) of LR 37, I have contacted the person I intend to appoint my Deputy Shadow Chairman, I'll announce who it is when they respond.

Brototh

To make the bill at least coherent. I've vaguely figured out what it means.

[spoiler=Amendment A]If the role of Speaker has been unfilled for 5 days or if the Speaker is inactive and after 3 days there is no Deputy Speaker to take over, the Shadow Speaker shall become Interim Speaker until a new Speaker is selected if the position was previously unfilled, or the Speaker returns or loses a vote of no confidence in the case of inactivity.

If the role of Speaker is unfilled for 3 days, the Shadow Speaker becomes Interim Speaker until the next Speaker election. If the Speaker is inactive for 3 days and there is no Deputy Speaker to take over, the Shadow Speaker becomes Interim Speaker until the next Speaker election. In the latter scenario, if the Speaker returns before the election is held, they will not be removed from their role of Speaker, however the House will still be able to exercise their regular authority to call a vote of no confidence in the Speaker.[/spoiler]

This amendment is a bit shambolic. Senator BrotothÂ’s amendment cleans this up significantly.

I brought up the absolute strok that is the original amendment over on discord, and Thot's amendments help massively with my concerns. It makes the point of the amendment a lot clearer, and it took me a lot less than 4 attempts to read it. Will be voting aye on Amendment A.

(For legal reasons, some of the above statements are partially jokes)

Amendement A is in my opinion very much necessary because, and no offense is intended here, the original bill was quite a mess. There is still one part I feel like is quite unnecessary though, being the entirety of the first sentence. Unless if I misinterpreted what is written, the first sentence is just an incomplete version of the second one.

I don't like amending Amendements from the same debate, so I ask/propose Sen. Brototh to remove "If the role of Speaker is unfilled for 3 days, the Shadow Speaker becomes Interim Speaker until the next Speaker election." and with that to also remove "In the latter scenario," from the (current) third sentence, as a matter of the bill making sense.

Brototh

Dendrobium wrote:Amendement A is in my opinion very much necessary because, and no offense is intended here, the original bill was quite a mess. There is still one part I feel like is quite unnecessary though, being the entirety of the first sentence. Unless if I misinterpreted what is written, the first sentence is just an incomplete version of the second one.

I don't like amending Amendements from the same debate, so I ask/propose Sen. Brototh to remove "If the role of Speaker is unfilled for 3 days, the Shadow Speaker becomes Interim Speaker until the next Speaker election." and with that to also remove "In the latter scenario," from the (current) third sentence, as a matter of the bill making sense.

I believe that it's actually two different scenarios. The first being if the role of Speaker is unfilled for 3 days, the Shadow Speaker becomes Interim Speaker. The second being if the Speaker is inactive for 3 days--not necessarily the role being unfilled--and there is no Deputy Speaker, the Shadow Speaker becomes Interim. The phrase 'In the latter scenario' exists for the second scenario as I have described.

Personally, I like the starting scenario (if the role of Speaker is unfilled), as I believe we had a problem once where there was no Speaker and no Electoral Commissioner. The EC must start the Speaker election, but there was no EC. The EC had to be confirmed by the House, but there was no Speaker to start the vote. As Hulldom said, it's an unlikely contingency, but a contingency all the same.

If you'd like to change this, Senator, I'll ask you to write an Amendment to Amendment A (lol, Amendment A-1?), to remove that. However I think your concern was that you didn't really understand what the bill meant.

TL;DR: it's two different scenarios.

World Trade

Brototh wrote:I believe that it's actually two different scenarios. The first being if the role of Speaker is unfilled for 3 days, the Shadow Speaker becomes Interim Speaker. The second being if the Speaker is inactive for 3 days--not necessarily the role being unfilled--and there is no Deputy Speaker, the Shadow Speaker becomes Interim. The phrase 'In the latter scenario' exists for the second scenario as I have described.

Personally, I like the starting scenario (if the role of Speaker is unfilled), as I believe we had a problem once where there was no Speaker and no Electoral Commissioner. The EC must start the Speaker election, but there was no EC. The EC had to be confirmed by the House, but there was no Speaker to start the vote. As Hulldom said, it's an unlikely contingency, but a contingency all the same.

If you'd like to change this, Senator, I'll ask you to write an Amendment to Amendment A (lol, Amendment A-1?), to remove that. However I think your concern was that you didn't really understand what the bill meant.

TL;DR: it's two different scenarios.

Okay turns out i just can't read and didn't notice one said unfilled and the other inactive :,^)

In that case I take back my previous statement and support Amendement A.

Brototh

Dendrobium wrote:Okay turns out i just can't read and didn't notice one said unfilled and the other inactive :,^)

In that case I take back my previous statement and support Amendement A.

thank you dendro <3

Dendrobium

[spoiler=Senators]

Ashlawn (IND)

Brototh (TPU)

Cydoni (IND)

Dendrobium (SOL)

Emazia (TPU)

Hulldom (LPT)

Marvinville (TFP)

Rayekka (IND)

World Trade (LPT)[/spoiler]

Chairman Brototh wrote:To make the bill at least coherent. I've vaguely figured out what it means.

[spoiler=Amendment A]If the role of Speaker has been unfilled for 5 days or if the Speaker is inactive and after 3 days there is no Deputy Speaker to take over, the Shadow Speaker shall become Interim Speaker until a new Speaker is selected if the position was previously unfilled, or the Speaker returns or loses a vote of no confidence in the case of inactivity.

If the role of Speaker is unfilled for 3 days, the Shadow Speaker becomes Interim Speaker until the next Speaker election. If the Speaker is inactive for 3 days and there is no Deputy Speaker to take over, the Shadow Speaker becomes Interim Speaker until the next Speaker election. In the latter scenario, if the Speaker returns before the election is held, they will not be removed from their role of Speaker, however the House will still be able to exercise their regular authority to call a vote of no confidence in the Speaker.[/spoiler]

We will now vote on this amendment. My vote is Aye

Chair, my vote is aye.

I apologise for the delay. It's been a very busy day for me, and I'm trying to get a schedule that works for me in the Senate. We'll be back to peak efficiency in no time.

Results:

Aye (8) Ashlawn (IND), Brototh (TPU), Dendrobium (SOL), Emazia (TPU), Hulldom (LPT), Marvinville (TFP), Rayekka (IND), World Trade (LPT)

Nay (0)

Abstain/DNV (1) Cydoni (IND)

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1458186

Senators, we will now vote on the final bill.

My vote is Aye.

[spoiler=Senators]

Ashlawn (IND)

Brototh (TPU)

Cydoni (IND)

Dendrobium (SOL)

Emazia (TPU)

Hulldom (LPT)

Marvinville (TFP)

Rayekka (IND)

World Trade (LPT)[/spoiler]

Results:

Aye (9) - Unanimous.

We will now be debating the Delegacy Transition Act. Foreign Affairs Minister Andusre will be permitted to speak during this debate.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1455909

[spoiler=House Speaker]Snowflame[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Senators]Ashlawn

Brototh

Dendrobium

Marvinville

Rayekka

Cydoni

Hulldom

World Trade

Emazia[/spoiler]

Andusre

I see no issues with this. Easy Aye.

This is a sensible and required bill. I commend it to the Senate.

As others have said before me, this is a well written bill that, although we have managed without I'm the past, is almost required if we want to ensure the future of those great region. It, in my eyes, is an easy aye.

I would like to submit this amendment

[spoiler=Amendment A]

Amend Article II, Section III

Section III - The Responsibilities of Individual Thaecians

All Thaecian residents who are World Assembly members should endorse the WAD-elect. They are not advised to unendorse the incumbent WAD.

[/spoiler]

Even though this amendment only strikes out one word, I find it important because the best delegate transitions take place when we unendorse the incumbent WAD to pave a way for the WAD-elect to take office quicker.

Brototh

last night my grandpa from my mothers side passed away. for this reason i will be not or at the very least be less active in the senate the coming days. if i haven't voted after 16 hours you may count my vote as abstain until i specify otherwise. i hope this isnt too much of a problem, stay healthy and have a nice day

World Trade, Brototh, Emazia, The Peoples Caribbean Union

Marvinville wrote:I would like to submit this amendment

[spoiler=Amendment A]

Amend Article II, Section III

Section III - The Responsibilities of Individual Thaecians

All Thaecian residents who are World Assembly members should endorse the WAD-elect. They are not advised to unendorse the incumbent WAD.

[/spoiler]

Even though this amendment only strikes out one word, I find it important because the best delegate transitions take place when we unendorse the incumbent WAD to pave a way for the WAD-elect to take office quicker.

I agree with Marvin here. I see no reason why we shouldn't unendorse the current WAD--after the new WAD has become delegate we can just re-endorse the old one. It's not like they need the extra endorsements for influence, they aren't the President anymore so no need to banject someone. And a couple of days of less endorsements isn't a big deal.

Ironically Thaecia Founder (Andusre) sent out telegrams last time asking people to unendorse Titanne & Korsinia, so I suppose we do unendorse anyway. It's just good practice.

Dendrobium wrote:last night my grandpa from my mothers side passed away. for this reason i will be not or at the very least be less active in the senate the coming days. if i haven't voted after 16 hours you may count my vote as abstain until i specify otherwise. i hope this isnt too much of a problem, stay healthy and have a nice day

There's no problem at all Dendro, take all the time you need. You're a brilliant Senator and friend and we'll let you take as long as you want to recover. We love you bb <33

World Trade, Emazia, Zon Island, Marvinville

Post self-deleted by World Trade.

Post self-deleted by World Trade.

I am not a supporter of Amendment A. I agree almost entirely with Andy's statements on Discord and am thus proposing an alternative amendment.

[spoiler=Amendment B]

Section III - The Responsibilities of Individual Thaecians

All Thaecian residents who are World Assembly members should endorse the WAD-elect. They are not advised to unendorse the incumbent WAD. However, if the WAD-elect has at least 15% fewer endorsements than the WAD, it is recommended that the WAD is unendorsed

[/spoiler]

(We got there eventually lads)

Hulldom, Emazia

That feels better overall for me than Amendment A. It incentivizes a blanket high level of endos.

World Trade, Emazia

Post self-deleted by Emazia.

I withdraw my Amendment A in support of Amendment B and I urge its passing.

[spoiler=Senators]

Ashlawn (IND)

Brototh (TPU)

Cydoni (IND)

Dendrobium (SOL)

Emazia (TPU)

Hulldom (LPT)

Marvinville (TFP)

Rayekka (IND)

World Trade (LPT)[/spoiler]

World Trade wrote:I am not a supporter of Amendment A. I agree almost entirely with Andy's statements on Discord and am thus proposing an alternative amendment.

[spoiler=Amendment B]

Section III - The Responsibilities of Individual Thaecians

All Thaecian residents who are World Assembly members should endorse the WAD-elect. They are not advised to unendorse the incumbent WAD. However, if the WAD-elect has at least 15% fewer endorsements than the WAD, it is recommended that the WAD is unendorsed

[/spoiler]

(We got there eventually lads)

We will now vote on this amendment. My vote is Aye

As we have reached above quorum & the 6hr period has passed, (and to make up for a few hours lost a few days ago), we will now vote on the final bill. Apologies to Senators who may not have got the opportunity to vote.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1460674

My vote is Aye

[spoiler=Senators]

Ashlawn (IND)

Brototh (TPU)

Cydoni (IND)

Dendrobium (SOL)

Emazia (TPU)

Hulldom (LPT)

Marvinville (TFP)

Rayekka (IND)

World Trade (LPT)[/spoiler]

Results:

Aye (8) Brototh Marvinville Emazia Cydoni Hulldom World Trade Ashlawn Rayekka

Nay (0)

Abstain (1) Dendrobium

The bill passes.

Senators, we have begun debate on the White Laurel Act. The Prime Minister The Bigtopia is permitted to speak during the debate.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1450106

World Trade, Hulldom, The Bigtopia, Emazia

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Written by Refuge Isle.