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Region: The Thaecian Senate
I support this bill
Brototh
Well since we passed it before with Amendements to rename certain bits because we agreed that would be the ideal version of the bill, and now it comes back re-amended in the oposite way of how it passed the Senate before, it seems kind of silly to vote "Aye" on something we agreed had to change.
There really isn't a simpler way to formulate it, but what I mean to say is that voting in favor of something we concluded was better another way is very contradictory from my point of view. That is why I will be voting "Nay" this time; we already passed the bill without these damaging Amendements.
I honestly expected more debate on this
Sorry for not responding to Dendro, but I personally feel like her opinion can't really be changed. The amendments are what they are, imo they are helpful to this bill as Senators did raise a good point that you can't define 'OOC' in the IC circumstance, at least not in a bill like this. We'll vote now.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1420694
My vote is Aye
[spoiler=Senators]Islonia
Ashlawn[/spoiler]
Nay
Abstain
Aye
Nay
Ауе
Aye
Abstain
Abstain
The bill passes.
Results:
Aye (4) Brototh Rayekka World Trade Pap Sculgief
Nay (2) Marvinville Dendrobium
Abstain (3) Ashlawn Islonia Andusre
[spoiler=Prime Minister]Korsinia[/spoiler]
Pap Sculgief
[spoiler=Quote for pings]Aye (4) Brototh Rayekka World Trade Pap Sculgief
Nay (2) Marvinville Dendrobium
Abstain (3) Ashlawn Islonia Andusre[/spoiler]
new consti amendment
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1441680
Pap Sculgief
Makes sense, and there are no obvious errors in the bill. Will vote aye
Brototh
Mainly because I need to pad for time until Dendro can write her bill up as an amendment, and because it's technically a pretty important amendment, here is an amendment to the bill.
[spoiler=Amendment A]Amend Article VIII - Elections to read as follows:
Creates Section VI which reads:
Only Thaecian citizens may hold the position of Electoral Commissioner.[/spoiler]
World Trade, Pap Sculgief
I support this bill & the amendment from Senator Brototh
Brototh
We have begun voting on the amendment to the bill. My vote is Aye
[spoiler=Sen]Brototh
World Trade[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Amendment A]Amend Article VIII - Elections to read as follows:
Creates Section VI which reads:
Only Thaecian citizens may hold the position of Electoral Commissioner.[/spoiler][/quote]
Pap Sculgief
Aye
Brototh
Aye
Brototh
Aye
Brototh
Aye
Brototh
Aye
Brototh
Aye
Brototh
Results:
Aye (7) Brototh Pap Sculgief Islonia World Trade Rayekka Dendrobium Marvinville
Nay (0)
The amendment passes.
Senators, we have begun voting on the final bill.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1441680
My vote is Aye
Aye
Brototh
Aye
Brototh
Aye
Brototh
Aye
Brototh
Aye
Brototh
Aye
Brototh
Aye
Brototh
Aye
Sorry for the late vote >.>
Results:
Aye (9) Brototh Pap Sculgief Islonia World Trade Rayekka Dendrobium Marvinville Andusre Ashlawn
Nay (0)
Abstain (0)
The bill passes.
Senators, we have begun debate on Amendments to LR 18.
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=andusre/detail=factbook/id=1437083
I will make comments later
[spoiler]
[/spoiler] We have begun votinghttps://www.nationstates.net/nation=andusre/detail=factbook/id=1437083
my vote is abstain
Aye
Aye
Abstain
Abstain
[spoiler=Sen]Brototh
World Trade[/spoiler] The bill passes, all abstain except Marvin and Pap who vote aye.
I think we're all a little tired from this now, has been 4~ long months. I am struggling to find a bill to debate on next. For now we are adjourned until I can find a bill.
World Trade, Pap Sculgief, Islonia
Senators, we have begun debating on the Regulation of Yogurt Viscosity Act.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1405196
[spoiler=Sen]Brototh
World Trade[/spoiler]
Pap Sculgief, The Bigtopia, Vjeresland
I have waited a long time for this bill to come to the Senate floor, and it is clearly a vital bill that will affect Thaecia for a long time to come! Long live the yogurt viscosity act!
In all seriousness, if we are to pass this bill we should probably change the wording in the below quote to make it less...mandatory.
[spoiler=Said Quote]
The Thaecian Executive branch shall create the Thaecian Dairy Commission (TDC)
[/spoiler]
Maybe "...shall have the ability to...", or something similar?
Brototh, The Bigtopia, Vjeresland
I concur
Vjeresland
This might just be one of the most important and impactful bills to ever cross the Senate. For that reason I believe it is of great importance that the voices of the Thaecian people are heard and I would like to sponsor Vjeresland to join in on this world-changing debate.
Brototh, The Bigtopia, Vjeresland
Greeting, Hon. Senators.
Thank you, Senator Dendro Govzy, for sponsoring me to speak in this debate.
As we all know, the late Mr. Govzy was a major proponent of the Yoghurt Viscosity Act. And whereas his opinion of yoghurt was very negative to say the least, he still supported the bill nonetheless. Unfortunately, the bill was tabled by The Left Dishonourable Speaker Zanaana and when the late Mr. Govzy assumed the Speakership there were much more pressing matters to attend to.
Diz Y. Govzy believed that the Yoghurt Viscosity Act would benefit both yoghurt-loving and yoghurt-despising Thaecians. By making the consistency of the yoghurt more regular, Mr. Govzy believed that yoghurt-eaters would have a more pleasant and predictable experience. And for those like Mr. Govzy, whose palettes did not agree with the bacterial sludge that is yoghurt, he believed that yoghurt regulation would be a good thing, as with more regulation of the product comes less variety in yoghurt and thereby less yoghurt.
In other words, Mr. Govzy believed that the Yoghurt Viscosity Act would benefit all Thaecians no matter their like or dislike of yoghurt. I know that if he were still alive today that he would be championing this bill through the house. Senator Govzy, I know you would support this anyways, but let's do it in the memory of Diz Yemum Govzy who never got the chance to vote "aye" as you all should.
World Trade, Pap Sculgief, Islonia, Hulldom, Brototh, The Bigtopia, Dendrobium
So, although it is not a perfect amendment, this bill is very important, and thus needs to pass. I therefore propose Amendment A
[spoiler=Amendment A]
The Thaecian Executive branch shall have the ability to create the Thaecian Dairy Commission (TDC), which shall be placed under the Home Affairs Ministry and tasked with testing all Thaecian-produced yogurt to ensure that it meets the above viscosity guidelines.
[/spoiler]
Brototh, The Bigtopia, The Islamic Country Of Honour
Alright well in all seriousness now, I do want to pass this as a joke but let's keep it as that lol:
[spoiler=Amendment B]Section II: Every two months, the TDC is encouraged shall be required to submit a "Thaecian Dairy Report" to Congress, so that the legislative branch shall can be kept aware of efforts to ensure safety for Thaecian Yogurt consumers.[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Amendment C]Remove Article III[/spoiler]
The Bigtopia
And now onto the more serious jokey amendments...
[spoiler=Amendment D]Amend Article I to read as follows:
The food product known as "yogurt" shall be defined as a milk product obtained by the fermentation of milk-specific micro-organisms a milk-based food product obtained by the fermentation of either homogenized or non-homogenized denatured milk by bacterial cultures, and which shall have an approximate viscosity between 147 centipoise (cP) and 159 centipoise (cP). (For reference, the average viscosity of "yogurt" is 152 cP.)[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Amendment E]Amend Article II, Section I to read as follows:
Change Article II, Section I "The TDC shall be led by a Thaecian Dairy Commissioner, who shall supervise at least one Deputy Commissioner and at least one Assistant Commissioner."[/spoiler]
The Bigtopia
Senators, we have begun voting on amendments for the Regulation of Yogurt Viscosity Act.
Author: World Trade
[spoiler=Amendment A]
The Thaecian Executive branch shall have the ability to create the Thaecian Dairy Commission (TDC), which shall be placed under the Home Affairs Ministry and tasked with testing all Thaecian-produced yogurt to ensure that it meets the above viscosity guidelines.[/spoiler]
Author: Brototh
[spoiler=Amendment B]Section II: Every two months, the TDC is encouraged shall be required to submit a "Thaecian Dairy Report" to Congress, so that the legislative branch shall can be kept aware of efforts to ensure safety for Thaecian Yogurt consumers.[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Amendment C]Remove Article III[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Amendment D]Amend Article I to read as follows:
The food product known as "yogurt" shall be defined as a milk product obtained by the fermentation of milk-specific micro-organisms a milk-based food product obtained by the fermentation of either homogenized or non-homogenized denatured milk by bacterial cultures, and which shall have an approximate viscosity between 147 centipoise (cP) and 159 centipoise (cP). (For reference, the average viscosity of "yogurt" is 152 cP.)[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Amendment E]Amend Article II, Section I to read as follows:
Change Article II, Section I "The TDC shall be led by a Thaecian Dairy Commissioner, who shall supervise at least one Deputy Commissioner and at least one Assistant Commissioner."[/spoiler]
My vote is Aye to all
[spoiler=Sen]Brototh
World Trade[/spoiler]
The Bigtopia
Aye to all
Brototh, The Bigtopia
Aye to all
Brototh, The Bigtopia
Aye to all
Brototh, The Bigtopia
A: Aye
B: Aye
C: Aye
D: Aye
E: Aye
Brototh, The Bigtopia
Senators, we have begun voting on the Regulation of Yogurt Viscosity Act as amended. As Dizgovzy wrote my last two amendments, I have opted to include him as an amendee instead.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1445525
My vote is Aye!
[spoiler=Senators]Brototh
World Trade[/spoiler]
World Trade, Indian Genius, The Bigtopia, Vjeresland, The Peoples Caribbean Union, Swedish-Norwegian Kingdoms
Aye!
Indian Genius, Brototh, The Bigtopia, Vjeresland, The Peoples Caribbean Union
Aye
World Trade, Indian Genius, Brototh, The Bigtopia, Vjeresland, The Peoples Caribbean Union
Nay
Indian Genius
Boooo!! Down with the heretic!
World Trade, Pap Sculgief, Indian Genius, The Bigtopia, Vjeresland, The Peoples Caribbean Union, Swedish-Norwegian Kingdoms
Post by Vjeresland suppressed by Chairman Brototh.
How to dislike a post
World Trade, Indian Genius, Brototh, The Peoples Caribbean Union, Swedish-Norwegian Kingdoms
This bill is clearly one of the most important and significant bills in our history. Not only does this finally put into place yoghurt viscosity regulations, but it will single-handedly make this region so much better, and make us the only NS region in the entire world to regulate our viscosity. For those reasons, I am proud to vote aye for this historic bill
Brototh, Vjeresland
Abstain
Brototh
Aye guess
Brototh, Vjeresland
Abstain
Oh for the love of all things holy, fugit, AYE
Brototh
Well boys, we did it. Marvinville is no more.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1445525
Results:
Aye (6) Brototh, World Trade, Islonia, Pap Sculgief, Ashlawn, Andusre
Nay (1) Marvinville
Abstain (2) Rayekka, Dendrobium
Sorry guys, we do have more work to do. New bill.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1445550
Amendment to LR 030. Common sense really. The problem was raised in I believe an East Pacific server that it may be potentially illegal to hold NS polls in Thaecia due to the votes being readily available. The bill resolves that.
[spoiler=House Speaker]Antenion[/spoiler]
Hello Senators
First of all, hooray for the passage of the Regulation of Yoghurt Viscosity Act. 'Tis truly a monumental moment in Thaecian history.
Secondly, I bring some sad (kinda sad, idk, take it as you will) news. Having sought advice from the Electoral Commission to avoid a snap election this close to a general election, I have decided that 'tis my time to depart from the Senate. I was elected, if my memory serves me right, in April of this year in a snap election and it has been a truly wonderful couple of months. It should come as no surprise to you, however, that my interest in Senate business has significantly dropped over the past few weeks. As such, I feel it is no longer right for me to sit in this chamber until the general election. As such, effective immediately, I'll be resigning my post as Senator. I trust you all to carry on being the grand colleagues you have been over the past few months, and thank you all for being here with me over the past 3 months. Thanks friends, that'll be all <3
World Trade, Rayekka, Indian Genius, Brototh, Titanne, Dendrobium, Vjeresland, Marvinville
I do not accept the Senator Andusre's resignation. He will continue to serve as my left arm boi until the day we die >:(
Ashlawn, World Trade, Pap Sculgief, Andusre, Indian Genius, Titanne, Dendrobium, Vjeresland, Marvinville, The Peoples Caribbean Union
Sorry, I probably should have shared my views on this earlier.
I believe that, although I don't think anyone would ever try and stop NS polls, it certainly is a possibility, and this amendment clears things up, and makes them 100% legal. I therefore support it and shall vote aye when the vote begins.
Indian Genius
Senators, we have begun voting on the Amendments to LR 030
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1445550
I vote aye
[spoiler=Senators]Brototh
World Trade[/spoiler]
Indian Genius
Aye
Indian Genius
Aye
Indian Genius
Aye
Indian Genius
Aye
Indian Genius
aye
Indian Genius
Aye
That bill passes unaminously with Marvinville abstaining. Antenion, please add it to the docket.
New bill. House amended it.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1431909
I'm going to propose an amendment later so the bill doesn't contradict itself...
[spoiler=Senators]Brototh
World Trade[/spoiler]
In the event that an invited candidate refuses to take up the seat, the next most popular candidate will be invited, and so on until either someone accepts the position, or until there are no more candidates left to ask. In the event of the latter, a snap election must be called.
If the 2nd most popular candidate refuses the post, the 3rd most popular candidate will not be invited to fill the seat and a snap election will be called.
Thank you House of Commons...this contradicts itself. This is meant to go in the Constitution for crying out loud >-<
[spoiler=Amendment A]In the event that an invited candidate refuses to take up the seat, the next most popular candidate will be invited, and so on until either someone accepts the position, or until there are no more candidates left to ask. In the event of the latter, a snap election must be called. If the 2nd most popular candidate refuses the post, the 3rd most popular candidate will not be invited to fill the seat and a snap election will be called.[/spoiler]
Marvinville
I do not think this bill is the right solution to the problem because I dont see why the second place candidate should be next in line for the following 2 weeks after an executive election. It should go to a snap election so the people of Thaecia can decide who should be the next elected official if a Xernon type issue ever happens again. As I have done before, I will vote Nay on the constitutional amendment and I urge the Senate to do the same.
Islonia
Sorry for delay. We are voting on Amendment A (hey that rhymes :p)
Author: Brototh
[spoiler=Amendment A]In the event that an invited candidate refuses to take up the seat, the next most popular candidate will be invited, and so on until either someone accepts the position, or until there are no more candidates left to ask. In the event of the latter, a snap election must be called. If the 2nd most popular candidate refuses the post, the 3rd most popular candidate will not be invited to fill the seat and a snap election will be called.[/spoiler]
My vote is aye
[spoiler=Senators]Brototh
World Trade[/spoiler]
Aye
Aye
Aye
Aye
Aye
Vjeresland
Aye
Aye
voting on final bill sorry for bad formatting on mobile
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1431909
My vote is aye
[spoiler=Senators]Brototh
World Trade[/spoiler][/quote]
Nay
Nay
Marvinville
Abstain
Abstain
Abstain
Aye
Abstain
The bill fails. We are in recess until I can figure out what we're supposed to do next if anything xp
I don't really want to put the military bill up till next term so we can get a full new perspective by new Senators & MPs.
[spoiler=Senators]Brototh
World Trade[/spoiler]
World Trade, Pap Sculgief, Dendrobium, Marvinville
Here is a bill that would make it a requirement for any Congress reduction to require a regional referendum. As many aspiring MPs and Senators pledge to reduce the House to 13 seats, it may be a good idea to add a process for this to work.
I also decided to up the minimum number of seats.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1447875
I like the amendment but I don't see a need to increase the required number of seats for each chamber
Dendrobium
I agree; it is only normal that reductions would comply to the same rules as expansions, but there isn't really a reason for the minimum number of seats to increase from what I can see.
I agree with what has been said
Assembled with Dot's Region Saver.
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