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Region: The Thaecian Senate
Aye
CLOSING VOTING - Scroll nr. 004
-- AFTED ACT - PASSED
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FOR: 3
AGAINST:1
ABSTAIN:1
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1252802
The Bill shall be send to the PM Andusre and the Electoral Commisioner Rayekka to await ratification into law.
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Marvinton[/spoiler]
OPENING DEBATE - SCROLL NR. 006
H.B. 014 - Congressional Expansion Act
I invite senators to participate in the debate around the expansion of Congress as is proposed by the House in H.B.014.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1252815
[spoiler=SENATORS]
Marvinton[/spoiler]
I believe the Senate should be expanded to 7 instead of 9 seats. I'm fine with 11 seats in the HoC
Titanne
Me as well. I think it adds layers to keep the Senate small.
Marvinton
I rather agree with 9 senators than 7 senators, We have a good and active population which can perfectly participate?
Me speaking as Chair: You can always introduce amendment A during the debating periode which will be voted on at the end.
I believe it is important to keep one chamber smaller than the other. 9 and 11 are too close to each other and we may not even have enough people that would want to participate in the government
Fishergate
Bye guys! Ill likely be back soon to discuss my bills in the docket and the ones I have plans to get sponsored!
HAHAHAHAHA YOU CAN NEVER BE RID OF ME...
Levantx
CLOSING DEBATE & OPEN VOTING - SCROLL NR. 006
H.B. 014 - Congressional Expansion Act
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AMENDMEENT A | proposed by Marvinton
Amend article 2 of H.B.014 as followed:
"The Senate will be expanded by 2 seats, to a total of 7."
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Senators please cast your vote on the Amendment as proposed by the Hon. Senator, you may vote 'Aye', 'Nay' or Abstain from voting.
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The Islamic Country Of Honour[/spoiler]
Titanne
Post self-deleted by Titanne.
I abstain
Aye
Fishergate
Aye
Marvinton, Fishergate
Aye
Marvinton, Fishergate
CLOSING VOTING - Scroll nr. 006
-- AMENDED A ON H.B.017 - PASSED
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AGAINST:0
ABSTAIN:1
INVALID VOTES:1
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https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1252815
Because there was only one amendment, I will not re-organise a vote on the amended H.B. as a whole, as this is irrelevant. Without objection I will close the voting and will return the amended H.B. back to The House Of Commons for approval.
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Marvinton[/spoiler]
Zon Island
CLOSING MEETING
Senators,
Congressional Leadership is asking all representatives to assemble in the The House Of Commons in order to meet with in a Joint Session of Congress to debate and vote on the proposed Third Constitution.
Speaker Fishergate will chair the Joint Session, when he opens the meeting Senators shall be allowed to participate fully on the House RMB. Voting will however be counted in accordance with the Constitution. A two third majority has to be reached in both chambers separate from each other.
I invite you all to move on the House, the voting and debate will be on the record of the Senate, and will also be official Senate decisions.
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Marvinton[/spoiler]
Kind Regards,
Fishergate
MESSAGE FROM THE CHAIR
Recognizing Court Rulling 002 the Chair shall ask the electoral commissioner to organise a snap election to fill in the vacant seat in the Senate.
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Paropia
Senators, I thank you all in participating in the Joint Session of Congress. As the session has closed with a successful approval of the amended Constitution. The show must go on and the senate has some important Bill's to discuss.
I hereby re-open our regular meetings in the Senate Chamber and Invite you all to look at Scroll no. 005 H.B.012 Rewarding Thaecians Contributions Act.
OPEN DEBATE - SCROLL NO 005
H.B.012 REWARDING THAECIAN CONTRIBUTIONS ACT
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1252810
[Spoiler=SENATORS]
Marvinton[/spoiler]
I am of the opinion that the bill on the floor adds an manner of recognition. However in a way it creates a certain nobility class.
I am inclined at the moment to vote in favour of the Bill. Because the nobility should not be an problem as it limits to a ceremonial function.
OPEN VOTING - SCROLL NO 005
H.B.012 REWARDING THAECIAN CONTRIBUTIONS ACT
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1252810
as the 24h debating periode has passed. Apparantly no objection has been made against the bill. I open the floor for an fluent vote.
I vote 'Aye'
[Spoiler=SENATORS]
Marvinton[/spoiler]
Aye
Aye
Aye
CLOSING VOTE - SCROLL NO 005
H.B.012 REWARDING THAECIAN CONTRIBUTIONS ACT
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1252810
Bill has passed with a broad majority the House. I hereby will send it to the Electoral Commisioner and Prime Minister for enforcement as law.
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Marvinton[/spoiler]
Marvinton, Fishergate, Paropia, Zon Island
Post self-deleted by The Islamic Country Of Honour.
I would also like to clarify that UNI will have my support in the Senate
Levantx
Firstly I want to clarify that the coalition still stands untill furter order. And thus under the Constitution Rt Hon. Senator ICH remains deputy Chairperson. I do not accept his resignation at this time.
On a second note I would like to welcome our newest senator, the Rt Honourable sir Indian Genius who has won the snap elections.
Now that the senate is once again at its full strenght we will start within 12 hours the Senate Bill's on the docket.
Indian Genius
Thanks, Levantx.
Levantx
A question to all Senators, is there any resistance to immediate open the vote on Scroll No. 001. The Exit from the Regions Assembly?
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Marvinton[/spoiler]
Post self-deleted by Indian Genius.
No objections on my end. The bill is redundant and I doubt anyone wants to keep it.
No objections from my end.
Titanne
OPENING VOTE - SCROLL NO 001
S.B 020 EXIT OF THE REGIONS ASSEMBLY
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Senators I invite you to cast your vote on the subject of repealing two laws in order to exit the Regions Assembly.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1252454
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Marvinton[/spoiler]
I vote in favour of repealing both relevant legislation in order to withdraw from the Regions Assembly.
I would however urge the Foreign Affairs Ministry to consider greater inter-regional expansion.
Paropia
Aye.
Aye
Snowflame, Paropia
CLOSING VOTE - SCROLL NO 001
S.B 020 EXIT OF THE REGIONS ASSEMBLY
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FOR: 3
AGAINST: 0
ABSTAIN: 2
The Bill is carried and will be send to the House of Commons for approval.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1252454
[Spoiler=PING]
Fishergate[/spoiler]
OPENING DEBATE - COALITION HEARERS BILL
SCROLL NO 002 - Sponsored by Titanne (former senator)
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I invite all senators to debate the bill which is will in its current form has broad impact on the judicial system. I also invite the writer from the Bill to participate in the debate.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1252683
[Spoiler=SENATORS]
Marvinton[/spoiler]
It is my believe that the judiciary should be and remain independent. Without interference from others, also not so called neutral observer or hearers. It is my understanding that these hearers in sense factcheckers. People who will be given the power to determine what is correct and what is not correct, and thus set before due investigation by the judges a certain path to follow.
I do not believe that this is what the judiciary needs, I do not think that having a citizensboard of people determine what is wrong and what isn't. I think that the Hearers Act is an to great interference on the Courts which should not be supported.
Developing World, Titanne, Paropia
I completely agree with the chairman. It seems that this act is simply taking the duties that belong to the justices and assigning them to independent members of society, which is completely unnecessary.
I also feel that the conditions may eventually cause an interference with the presidents seat as WA delegate. We ask that all citizens endorse the president, but this would incentivize campaigning for endorsements.
Developing World
I agree with the chairman too. There shouldn't be any interference in courts.
Developing World
OPENING VOTE - COALITION HEARERS BILL
SCROLL NO 002 - Sponsored by Titanne (former senator)
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Titanne has made clear that he doesn't want to reply on the arguments given during the debate. Without objection I shall open the vote on the submitted bill. I invite you to cast your vote.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1252683
[Spoiler=SENATORS]
Marvinton[/spoiler]
Indian Genius
I vote 'Nay'
Developing World, Indian Genius
Nay
Developing World, Indian Genius
Nay
Developing World, Indian Genius
Nay
CLOSING VOTE - COALITION HEARERS BILL
SCROLL NO 002 - Sponsored by Titanne (former senator)
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FOR: 0
AGAINST: 4
ABSTAIN: 1
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Senate Bill has been defeated.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1252683
[Spoiler=SENATORS]
Marvinton[/spoiler]
Developing World, Indian Genius, Titanne, Paropia
OPEN DEBATE - H.B.017 Electoral Commission Formalisation Act
I invite senators to debate the H.B.017 bill with urgency. The bill aims to formalise the deputy position and the succesion rules around it.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1263588
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Marvinton[/spoiler]
Levantx, United States Of Edingbridge
Anyone got questions for me regarding the bill?
Levantx
Id like more clarification as to what article 2 is doing? More specifically, if who isnt confirmed within seven days?
Levantx
I am in support of the bill.
As it states, the Assistant Electoral Commissioners
Post self-deleted by Paropia.
My concerns have cleared up. Im in support of this bill.
Levantx
CLOSING DEBATE - H.B.017
OPEN VOTING
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1263588
Senator you can now cast your vote on the Bill on the floor.
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Marvinton[/spoiler]
United States Of Edingbridge
Aye
Developing World, United States Of Edingbridge
Aye
Developing World, United States Of Edingbridge
Aye
Developing World, United States Of Edingbridge
I also vote Aye
Developing World, United States Of Edingbridge
Aye
United States Of Edingbridge
Levantx It passes unanimously
Levantx
OPEN DEBATE - SCROLL NO 008
S.B.022 AMENDMENTS TO THE RECALL REPRESENTATIVES ACT (L.R.009)
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I invite senators to debate the submitted bill by Developing World aiming to adjust L.R.009. DW is also allowed to participate during the vote and explain his intend for the Bill.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1261954
Please remember, Developing World: You manage the Bill. You are allowed to change your own Bill at any time during the debate. However if senators vote and approve a specific amendment during the debate, you will have to include that in your factbook.
It is a first time that we will try self-management by writers of a bill. So let us see that this way of working can work for us.
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Marvinton[/spoiler]
Thank you Levantx for this opportunity to speak, it's been a long time since I last spoke on the Senate RMB and I am happy to be back here. Senators, the main change I am proposing to the bill is for it to say that we need to hold snap elections if an MP or Senator is recalled. That is done mainly out of necessity, as in accordance to the Court Ruling 0.0.2., one I am not necessarily a fan of, we need to hold snap elections and so, the former version of the bill was unconstitutional and could not be applied. This changes are necessary for us to be able to recall certain members of Congress or Senators again. The other changes I am proposing are pretty minor, such as deeming the minimum necessary of inactivity at 2 weeks of not voting. This is giving an exact period someone needs to be inactive for a recall to be able to happen rather than let the period necessary up to subjectivity. It also says that if someone is recalled 2 weeks before the regular election, a snap election will not be held and the regular election will cover the seat - to prevent absurd situations from happening. I hope you will all support this amendments.
Levantx
Post self-deleted by Levantx.
OPEN VOTE ON SCROLL NO 008
S.B.022 AMENDMENTS TO THE RECALL REPRESENTATIVES ACT (L.R.009)
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I invite all senators to cast your vote on the S.B. 022.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1261954
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Aye
Aye
Aye
Aye
Aye
CLOSING VOTE ON S.B.022 - Scroll No 008
AMENDMENT ON L.R.009
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FOR: 5
AGAINST: 0
ABSTAIN: 0
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https://www.nationstates.net/nation=senate_chair/detail=factbook/id=1252418#22
The Senate bill has passed the senator reading and shall be sent to the House of Commons.
[spoiler=SENATOR]
Marvinton[/spoiler]
RECOGNIZE THE MOTION OF NO CONFIDENCE IN THE CHAIR
I recognize the motion of at least one third of senators with the purpose of holding a constructive vote of no confidence in the Senate Chair. A vote of no confidence is a point or order which always receives priority on the scroll order.
I hereby summon the Electoral Commissioner to watch over the voting process during the vote on the motion as accepted.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1264140
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Marvinton[/spoiler]
[spoiler=ELECTORAL COMMISSION]
Non at this time[/spoiler]
Post by United States Of Edingbridge suppressed by Senate Chair.
The ACTING Electoral Commissioner is here Levantx
Levantx, Paropia
Post by United States Of Edingbridge suppressed by Senate Chair.
Post by Levantx suppressed by Senate Chair.
I invite you to take my seat at the Chair's desk in front of the assembly. You may start the vote on the motion as is submitted.
Post by Paropia suppressed by Senate Chair.
Aye
Post by United States Of Edingbridge suppressed by Senate Chair.
(I wish there was a sergeant at arms rn xD)
Levantx, Snowflame, Paropia
Post by Levantx suppressed by Senate Chair.
I think the vote of no confidence is an outrage against my achievements as Senator. I believe I have moved a lot of hard work in modernising the senate and bring order and neutrality to the senate chair. I believe that the vote of no confidence is out of place in denouncing without confidence as Chair.
I vote "AYE" in favour of the motion.
Snowflame, Developing World, Fishergate, Paropia
Post self-deleted by Marvinton.
Post by Marvinton suppressed by Senate Chair.
Nay
STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR
It has come to my attention that according to law we do not have an active EC or deputy EC which can preside over the vote of no confidence.
Which shall mean that Senate shall have to continue its scroll untill a EC has been confirmed by the House of Commons.
Marvinton, Islonia, Indian Genius, Fishergate, Paropia
OPEN DEBATE ON MOTION 001
SCROLL NO 012
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1262843
I invite senators to discuss the motion on the floor to introduce an official seal for the senate.
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Marvinton[/spoiler]
Indian Genius
I like it a lot. Great to have for legitimacy purposes
Paropia, The Islamic Country Of Honour
I am in support of this.
I am also in favour of this bill
No objections from me. I like the idea of us approving our own seal. Not to mention it looks both sharp and professional.
OPEN VOTE ON MOTION 001
SCROLL NO 012
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1262843
With everyone clearly in favour I open the vote earlier.
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Marvinton[/spoiler]
Paropia
I vote Aye
Paropia
Aye
Paropia
Aye
Paropia
Aye
Aye
CLOSING VOTE ON MOTION 001
SCROLL NO 012
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1262843
The motion has passed unanimously. The senate shall adopt the seal as its official emblem.
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Marvinton[/spoiler]
Marvinton
OPENING DEBATE - SCROLL NO 009
S.B.023 SECRET VOTE ACT
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https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1262350
Senators, this is the last Bill on the docket. I invite you to carefully debate the Bill as this is partly a re-introduction of the Secret Ballot Bill which was defeated in the previous session of the Senate. The Bill which I myself have submitted will have impact on our elections proceedings.
I also would like to sponsor United States Of Edingbridge as upcoming Electoral Commissioner to participate
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Marvinton[/spoiler]
I'll help if needs be
Personally on the fence on this one, but for the sake of the grammatical gods Id like to propose an amendment to article two.
Id like to amend
IN ORDER to enforce the necessity of secrecy and the importance of the most fundamental moment in democracy. all those who are involvement in processing the elections, are by oath entitled to keep the secrecy of the ballot, on judicial punishment varying from the exclusion of running for public office up till a banishment from the region, regarding the severity of the offense.
To
IN ORDER to enforce the necessity of secrecy and the importance of the most fundamental moment in democracy, all those who are involved in processing the elections, are by oath entitled to keep the secrecy of the ballot, on judicial punishment varying from the exclusion of running for public office up to a banishment from the region, regarding the severity of the offense.
Levantx, United States Of Edingbridge
I believe it is an important Bill. It will secure that voters will have the freedom to vote on who ever they want without pressure.
Yes the biggest critic could say that election cannot be held on NS Polls. That is true and I think a cost willingly to pay.
OPENING VOTE - SCROLL NO 009
S.B.023 SECRET VOTE ACT
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https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1262350
Senators, I invite you for a last time to cast your vote on the senate Floor.
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Marvinton[/spoiler]
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