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Region: The Thaecian Senate
Yeah sure works for me
Cool author, not sure about sponsor tho
The Ambis
Riveting stuff yall, lets vote. 24 hours.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1917016
[spoiler=Senators]
New Central Iowa[/spoiler]
Aye
10 day vote here we come
oh and sure yeah works for me +1 vote for
The Ambis
Aye
Tada. Done.
Passed, 3-0-0-2 Brototh
Debating this:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1717482
See no issue with these changes
Actually, strike that, were debating this now: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1767138
Please note that all of Marvs bills are (for now) no longer valid. Docket will be updated to reflect this
Guys Im hilarious, were debating this now lol
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1910852
I have no issues with this bill
Chairman Ambis you are a silly doofus.
Anyways, bill looks good to me.
Whyd you ping chairman me?
I just typed @ ambis and clicked on one 😅
so sure yeah this works for me why not
Ok lets vote.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1910852
[spoiler=Senators]
New Central Iowa[/spoiler]
Aye
Aye
Aye
Arent I funny. Bill passes Andusre.
New stuff soon
I'm not deeply opposed to the recall blocker on fail, but I do think it is too long as the section, as such I am proposing an amendment to swap 28 days out for 14.
I am deeply opposed to doubling the length a Chamber Leader is immune to removal.
As such, I am also proposing an amendment to remove that amendment from the bill.
I intend to vote against the bill in its current form. I recognise I haven't written text versions of the amendment, because I am on my phone at the moment, but do believe, as they are one word changes, the chair knows what I mean and can make that clear in the vote stage. I can write literal text versions though if wanted.
Regardless of whether the amendments pass, I can't say giving an elected official recall vote immunity is necessary at this stage, given no elected official of an applicable nature under this system has ever been the subject of a successful petition. The one time we got close a court injunction, that I am still salty about, got in the way. Amusing this amendment is by the subject of that petition though, I'm sure that's a coincidence.
My sponsor is Bow; I am writing the proposed amendments on his behalf as author (he is the credited author; see CR 009)
[spoiler=Amendment A]Amends VI.I.VI,
Sub-section VI - If a majority votes to keep the incumbent official in office in a recall referendum, no recall petition may be presented against such individual for the next 28 14 days.
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[spoiler=Amendment B]Removes amendments to VI.II.II; retains recall time at 28 days as status quo.[/spoiler]
Toerana V, The Ambis
Thanks
Voting on below amendments
[spoiler=Amendment A]Amends VI.I.VI,
Sub-section VI - If a majority votes to keep the incumbent official in office in a recall referendum, no recall petition may be presented against such individual for the next 28 14 days.
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[spoiler=Amendment B]Removes amendments to VI.II.II; retains recall time at 28 days as status quo.[/spoiler]
Aye to all
Aye to both
Amendments pass 3-0-0-2
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1922291
Heres the amended bill. We are now voting on it.
[spoiler=Senators]
New Central Iowa[/spoiler]
Aye
Aye
I hereby inaugurate Creckelenney and Lesbia to the Senate
Lesbia, Chairman Ambis
Post self-deleted by Brototh.
Abstain
Heres yalls Ping to vote on the above bill
Aye
Aye
For this bill, seems like reasonable amendments
Brototh
Yolo
Aye
Aye
personally, i will be abstaining
Creckelenney
Aye
aye
I do hereby declare the above bill passed, 4-0-0-3. Actias, I will note this is your third consecutive missed vote.
New business will be up soon
Alright new business! We are now debating https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1918407 as amended by the senate.
[spoiler=Senators]
Actias[/spoiler]
I meant house, by the way
so I obviously prefer 14 to 21 but I'm not going to try and turn this into a back and forth. 21 days is too long for me to be comfortable with, however, and with the amendment seeking to fix what is currently not an issue, nor something that has absolutely ever been an issue, I am going to vote against this amendment and encourage other Senators to do so as well.
The Ambis
I agree with Bow here
Nay
Nay
Nay
Nay
Vote closed.
The bill has failed 0-4-0-3.
We will debate more soon!
Sorry!
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1908150
Debating this now!
[spoiler=Senator]
Lesbia[/spoiler]
Yeah sensible change +1
The Ambis
Aye, as shadow chairperson of the senate I can confirm it's unessecary
Toerana V, The Ambis
Lets vote then!
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1908150
As a reminder, Actias has been recalled, so no longer needs to vote.
[spoiler=Senators]
Lesbia[/spoiler]
Aye
aye
Aye
Aye
Aye
We really gotta define soon
So true.
Alright, lets debate.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1908147
[spoiler=Senators]
Lesbia[/spoiler]
Toerana V
Makes sense to me. I'm for.
yes, more flexibility is always good
Seems logical to agree with this.
For sure
Alright senators. We are now voting on Amendments to L.R. 60
Please vote with an aye, nay, or abstain.
[spoiler=Senators]
Lesbia[/spoiler]
I vote aye
Aye
Aye
Aye
Aye
Thank you all for voting so quickly! Amendments to L.R.060 pass the Senate by a margin of 5-0-0-1. Lesbia failed to vote.
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We will now be debating Amendments to L.R.039
[spoiler=Senators]
Lesbia[/spoiler]
Streamlines and removes unnecessary language from L.R.039
Sure why not
yup fine with that
We will now be voting on Amendments to L.R.039
Please vote with an aye, nay, abstain, or the equivalents.
[spoiler=Senators]
Lesbia[/spoiler]
Aye
Aye
Aye
Aye
Aye
Lesbia, please vote
Amendments to L.R.039 pass the Senate by a vote of 5-0-0-1
Lesbia failed to vote.
There will be new business soon
[spoiler=Senators]
Lesbia[/spoiler]
Alright, we are now debating Amendments to L.R.58
Please debate and all that.
[spoiler=Senators]
Lesbia[/spoiler]
Im for these amendments and see no harm in them
Yeah, looks good to me, the old rule of 4 was a bit limiting
uhm sure okay
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I sponsor Brototh
I've already explained why this change is ridiculous. Here's my post.
Obalostan
I can very much see where Brototh is coming from here. I don't see why this change is necessary and 5 characters to represent a party doesn't seem right when majority of parties (NS and IRL) are happy with 3, maybe 4 characters.
Brototh
I sit in the "who does this hurt?" camp. Acronyms of up to 5 characters aren't gonna break anything, why not give movements a little bit more freedom.
I see the argument of "where should we draw the line" but I don't find it compelling enough to vote against this bill
New Central Iowa
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