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Region: The Thaecian Senate
Thank you Toerana V for answering my question thoroughly.
Toerana V
Progress that I have specifically made, none. I expect Brototh has made more progress than that, and I will get myself read in on that as soon as I get confirmed. My ideas, that may or may not be similar to hers, for establishing this program are fairly basic, shout outs on the RMB, forcing somebody to make the banners and badges that I'm too bad to make on my own, and other things maybe. In my limited vision this is a fairly simple task and could very well be implemented within the first week. In the event that my limited ambitions for this program contrast with Brototh's vision, I will defer to her.
As of now, yes. I am satisfied with current recruitment numbers. Especially since we recently lost the ability to use our better method of recruitment and have had to return to a more tedious method of recruitment. Basically, our efficiency in recruitment has decreased in these last few weeks. Our goal should be to maintain current recruitment numbers, if practicable. I don't have any lofty ambitions for recruitment, I'm not going to say that we will reach 600 members, because the real goal should be to increase our current engagement with the populace.
1.) Getting the things I want to implement to work properly. In my opinion, the HAM doesn't have a lot to do, if they were to do the bare minimum. To make myself feel better, I am going to do beyond what is required. Anybody remember that time I was the Justice Minister? Because we're bringing back a part of that that I feel will be much more successful now: the committee that was involved with helping people write legislation. With a whole additional year of congressing under my belt, I can do this solo. The next thing, I want to emphasize that this is NOT a primary goal, there is every likelihood that nothing comes out of this. That said, I would like to publish some educational dispatches. Things that I am knowledgeable about. This is another thing that will likely be done entirely by myself, IF it even gets done. Another thing I'll be doing is doing regular highlights of the various executive positions that can be held. Spotlights for positions like recruiter, pollster, and all the other random jobs that are available in the executive.
2.) Maintaining past recruitment. Like I said earlier, we lost the ability to use a convenient recruitment tool, and have returned to using a more archaic form of recruitment. As such, our recruiting goal should be to maintain our current recruitment, before we let the adverse circumstances bring down recruitment.
3.) Increased inter-ministerial cooperation. Whether it be hosting cultural events, or just doing the potential regional newspaper; there's lots the HAM can do to aid other ministries. Although I only have ideas for helping the Culture and Communications ministries at the moment, the HAM could potentially be the executive recruitment team that Thaecia needs. Through increasing awareness of various Cultural and Communicative activities, we can get those activities to have more community involvement.
That's basically it all, I can expand on these topics if needed or wanted. Thanks for asking.
Toerana V, Chair Sevae
I'm satisfied with the answers and am ready to vote
Toerana V as Comm. Minister, do you intend to focus on topics of importance to region members, or more on those that'd interest nations in other regions?
Toerana V
Thaecia comes first. If/when I personally write newspaper articles, I'll be focusing on thaecia relevant articles to interest Thaecians. Naturally, if an individual in comms wants to write something that focuses on another region, then I will provide them with support and encouragement. I would prefer people write something they are interested in than write something because they have to, or because I want them to.
Porfloxia
We are now voting on the nominees Snalland and Toerana V
Snalland - aye. Toerana V - aye
Snalland- aye.
Toerana V- aye
Snalland - Aye
Toerana V - Aye
Both Aye.
Aye to both
Aye to both
We have finished voting on the nominees. They both pass 6-0-1 (Creckelenney not voting) Brototh
We are now debating the nominations of Mardis for Justice Minister and The United Provinces Of Kerovia for Culture Minister.
[spoiler=Senators]
Vedenmark[/spoiler]
Brototh
I will ask both nominees 2 questions each;
Mardis and Kerovia,
1.) How do you both plan to be effective in your nominated positions.
2.) What is your experience in these ministries?
Mardis
1) As legal affairs minister I will focus on the Thaecian Bar Exam and expanding the Thaecian bar association in order to create more high quality attorneys in Thaecia. These members of the TBA can then get involved and help me run the ministry of legal affairs.
2) I have passed the Thaecian Bar exam and have been a member of the Thaecian Bar association since July, 2021. Since then I have been active in the Justice Ministry as a staffer.
Vedenmark
Thank you for answering both of my questions thoroughly. I have decided how to vote for you.
Mardis
the nomination of Kerovia is tabled. He has no internet so it would be pointless to keep debate open
15 hours for any more questions for Mardis. I don't have any and intend to confirm
Apologies for the delayed answer. I've been traveling and I haven't had service practically this whole week (It's Spring Break for me, lol)
Now, to answer your question.
1.) In my previous term as Culture Minister, I had developed many great plans to boost activity, and even recruitment. I have worked on these ideas (with the permission of New Ikesandria) and I can wholeheartedly say that they're coming along much, much better than I had thought they would.
Secondly, I really have interest in the Culture Ministry. I want Thaecia to grow, and I believe that Culture can help that happen.
2.) Last term, I was the Culture Minister for some time (until IRL hit me hard... you know the story). I think I can say that during my time as CM, I did some pretty fun stuff for Thaecia. Other than that, I'm very active in the Culture Ministry and like I said, I still have been working on several projects.
Vedenmark, Sevae
we are now debating the nomination of Kerovia
voting on Mardis and Kerovia will commence tomorrow at around 10am GMT
to me, I think Culture Minister is a position with very low requirements right now, seeing as nothing has happened in the ministry for the past couple of months since Kerovia resigned
The United Provinces Of Kerovia, can you elaborate on the plans you mentioned?
What do you want to accomplish this term to consider it a successful term?
What did you learn from your last term (before RL hit)?
I took the liberty to number your questions/ statements, so if you feel uncomfortable with that please let me know and I will correct it.
1.) I disagree with this statement. The Culture Ministry, while it may not need any "official requirements", it requires many traits. For example, the Culture Ministry (on a basic level) requires creativity, very high levels of activity, great organization skills, planning skills, and foreign affairs knowledge. It takes up quite a bit of time if you want to actually do something.
2.) Of course. However, due to some pending questions, I will not go into full detail.
At the beginning of my term as CM, I had proposed an idea to boost recruitment through browser based games. This has shown to work greatly. I've established communications with a browser-based gaming discord server, and introduced them to the idea of NS and Thaecia. As of now, I can confidently say that there are 40+ people willing to join Thaecia. This number continues to grow as the clan gains members.
Other than that, I have plans to grow our number of interregional festivals and little fun Thaecian festivals.
(i also wanna create a movie night!)
3.) For this term to be successful, I would like to greatly increase activity and retention. Cinema said, and I quote "since the Drew period, I think we've retained maybe three or four people. That's an incredible achievement.". I would like to double this number. Obviously it's not really something you can measure in a short amount of time, but I hope that I'll be able to achieve that in such a short period of time. I also would like to simply create more fun in Thaecia.
4.) During my last term, I learned that a lot of Thaecian's don't even recognize Culture as something important. I've been told time and time again that "culture is one of, if not the most insignificant ministries". Our issue here is that I don't think Thaecia's been truly given a great Culture experience. I hope to change that.
I'm not sure if that was the answer you wanted, and if it wasn't, then I'll answer again.
To conclude, I have very high aspirations for the Culture Ministry and for Thaecia. I would love to see us enjoying a game of Gartic Phone or watching a movie. I have a passion for this position that I truly want to act upon.
Thank you for your time, Senators. If you have any more questions, please do ask.
Sevae
I want to clarify number one - I was just saying that it's easy for this term to be better than the previous one, I was not implying that Culture is an easy ministry to manage. I'm sorry
I think there's really nothing more for me to ask during this hearing. I'll vote to confirm you
The United Provinces Of Kerovia
Aye both
Aye to both
Aye to both nominees
Aye to both
Aye to both
Both nominees have passed 6-0-1
We are now debating the repeal of the Mental Health Act
The 'Repeal of the Mental Health Act', is very necessary considering the bill was never put into motion. I would also like to point out that while I was a member of TGP, I didnt find it inviting for NS to be involved in a personal crisis. The Repeal changes nothing, other than getting rid of a useless bill, which, in my opinion, is very useful. I will be voting Aye.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1673552
Senators,
Rather than scrapping a law due to the executive's dereliction of duty, Congress should be acting to ensure the law is properly enforced or optimized. This Act provides a resource necessary in any community, no matter the size or purpose, which promotes wellbeing and health. It is no burden to have such a resource maintained for our citizens, nor does it require anyone to in the region to be involved in one another's personal crisis as my colleague suggests. I've spent many years on NationStates and can attest that resources like this, even in their silent pinned or linked dispatch, can make the difference in someone's day or life. A pointless piece of legislation that undoes a good and proper initiative that should be made to be enforced.
I yield.
I will push back on this. We already have a dispatch with mental health resources pinned, and this act does nothing but make the Executive think about some other list who only UCP knew what to write in. Now that UCP is gone, the only person who was not okay with the dispatch from Europeia we have pinned is gone.
When I voted for this act in the first place I was expecting UCP to make such a dispatch because he was the author of the bill and its heart and soul. What's the point of keeping this thing if nobody has expressed interest in enforcing it? As you said, this is a good initiative, and that's what it should stay. If someone wants to make another mental health resources list, they should feel welcome to, but I'm sure it's imbedded deep enough in our regional culture to help those with mental health problems that it doesn't require a bill
Perhaps we could instead amend the law to enforce a mental health dispatch being pinned in the main region, and scrapping the affiliated/off-site stuff? That way it is more low maintenance, doesn't have the dispatch being pinned in places where it wouldn't make sense (eg. this region), and doesn't take up WFE characters that could be used for other information that wouldn't do as well as a pinned dispatch?
Actias
Post self-deleted by Vedenmark.
There is no use in doing so. The bill has shown its ineffectiveness along with other resources already in place that just further makes this bill unnecessary.
The law has no downside, and getting it into a form where it would be simpler and easier to implement would get it into a form where it is no longer ineffective. But even if it continues to be ineffective, and ineffective law that can not possibly produce any harm is better than nothing.
the harmful thing is the WFE thing, you are right. It's just that we already have a mental health dispatch pinned, and are not going to remove it anytime soon, so the act would just be reinforcing it
Aye
Nay
Nay
This is a hardcore AYE
Nay
Aye
Aye
The bill has passed 4-3-0. Thank you for voting so quickly!
Brototh, the bill is now directed to you to sign or veto
We are now debating the Amendments to the Military Commission Act
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1625038
Marvinville, Vedenmark, Sunipi
No major comments from me. The bill is decent and can be beneficial, so I have decided how to vote now.
Considering Thaecia's stringent anti-griefing policy, it might be useful and harmless to throw in something that mandates the military to always pre-inform Congress 18 hours before engaging in an operation that has the possibility of Thaecia supporting the griefing of a region (I'd use Thaecia's current definition of griefing here with embassy destruction included as well). Then, the Senate could vote to veto the operation if needed, or do nothing if it's reasonable (eg. anti-facist raiding). Because raids have the benefit of being planned ahead of time, this shouldn't be difficult to implement.
EDIT: In addition, to make it more effective, I'd suggest that 2/3 of voting senators must approve of the operation before the military can engage in any operation that has the possibility of Thaecia supporting the griefing of a region, as long as more than half of the senate has voted.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1682322
I wrote down what I was trying to say here ^^^
The key is at the top of the dispatch.
I motion to move to voting please.
We are now voting on the amendment by Porflox.
My vote is Nay, reasoning is that I don't support any kind of anti griefing legislation as we have military policies that practically ban griefing in all but name
I also vote nay
As our military policies already essentially reflect this.
Aye
NAY
Aye because while it might have altered the original proposal a bit too much and could have been cut down, it's better to vote for it than not have anything at all.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1682498
I'd like to amend my previous amendment to the dispatch above, with the article about veto powers removed.
Alright, I forgot to restart the vote but let's do it that way - let's pretend we were always voting on the changed amendments all along. My vote is unchanged
Nay
Nay
I'm keeping mine as Yay because it's now in the form I like the best (only requiring the military to disclose info if there is a risk of griefing and allowing non-griefing operations like tag runs to remain secret).
Nay
aye
Aye
Nay
Aye
Nay because it opens the possibility of the military engaging in griefing without congressional consent
Aye
Nay
this bill has passed 4-3-0 Brototh
we are now debating the Presidential removal and WA Delegacy Act
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=solittus/detail=factbook/id=1664926
This is a decent bill. The clauses, etc align perfectly with the ideal proposal of this billwhich is to dissolve the Presidency. Though, what is the point of dissolving the Presidency? In addition, how does Thaecia benefit from this?
I agree with veden.
While the bill achieves what it sets out to do -which is remove the office of president- what purpose does removing the office of president actually serve (other than give the PM more to do)?
I'm not an author of this bill (who may have differing opinions), but in my view, letting the office of the president shed all its administrative/head-of-state duties lets it focus on its core WA Delegate role, rather than having them get bogged down in nominations, military, etc. Meanwhile, all these roles are transferred to the Prime Minister (who's all about those administrative duties), where they would be attended to in a more efficient and logical manner. Also, having a head of state that doesn't run the government is confusing.
Solittus, Chair Sevae
England does it well.
I agree with Porflox. This bill makes things less confusing, and makes the President do what they were supposed to do and nothing more. If we're worried about the workload on the PM, there is always the option to reduce the PM term to 2 months, which I support
To address both of your points, this act sets out to remove the role of the President in order to get rid of an unnecessary position from Thaecia, a position with mainly World Assembly responsibilities with random nominations and other responsibilities that make little sense. The office is re-named to the World Assembly Delegate to reflect the new sole role of this office: World Assembly Affairs. It currently does not make sense having a President that it is our Head of State but doesn't really lead the government or have anywhere near the power of the Prime Minister.
One of the reasons to have the World Assembly Delegate elected at the midpoint between two General Elections is to increase activity in this midterm elections - more people are likely to vote for this reason which will undoubtedly benefit Thaecia. In addition to this, the World Assembly Delegate has complete focus on World Assembly Affairs which will enhance our presence in the World Assembly.
I urge you to vote in favour of this act.
Ok, I have decided how to vote. Thank you.
alright, we're voting now.
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=solittus/detail=factbook/id=1664926
[spoiler=Senators]
Vedenmark[/spoiler]
aye
Marvinville
Nay
Aye (why marv)
Marvinville
Aye
Marvinville
Aye
Im changing my vote to Aye; as Ive been shown, the position of the President really does not matter as much. The duties can be handled by the PM, etc. That being said I will vote Aye.
Aye
the vote has ended, the bill has passed unanimously 6-0-0
we are now debating the Legalisation of Political Parties Act https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1676812
This bill has marched its way to the Senate floor again, hasnt it? I have nothing to say in this debating session.
What issue does this bill solve? Stealing names/acronyms of other parties?
honestly I'm a bit torn on this as well. This isn't a bill that is very necessary, and this bill conflicts a bit with my recent "minimum laws" ideology. We don't particularly need it right now and it could be amended for the better, and even then I'm not sure
I agree, I remember saying something similar the first 2 times it made its way through the Senate.
Personally, I support the bill. I think it is helpful to have the clarification, though I certainly understand the opposition to it
Amendment A by Brototh:
Creates Article VI - Grandfathering:
Section I - The following party names and acronyms shall be automatically reserved:
- Freedom Party of Thaecia [FREE], Chairman Marvinville
- Thaecia Globalist Party [TGP], Chairman Sunipi
- Coalition of Thaecian Citizens [CTC], Chairman The United Provinces of Kerovia
- Party for Thaecian Democracy [PTD], founded by Snalland
Section II - In the event these parties change their name or acronym, said name or acronym will no longer be reserved specifically for them.
Section III - The names and acronyms listed here are not private property of the nations listed beside them and are instead property of the parties unless the party declares otherwise. Within this bill the names are only existant to identify the party.
Brototh
I support this amendment, it seems reasonable
author amendment to the CTC part so instead of "chairman Kerovia" etc it reads "founded by Angypt" as Kerovia resigned last night.
Its a decent amendment, though I believe this would be obviousthere isnt a real reason stoping me from voting aye to it.
We are now voting on this amendment
Aye
I also motion for unanimous consent on the Amendments to the Congressional Investigation Act - they are very simple and obvious
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1675782
I acknowledge this motion
Aye
I acknowledge the motion
Aye
I acknowledge the motion
Aye
I acknowledge the motion
Aye
I acknowledge the motion
Assembled with Dot's Region Saver.
Written by Refuge Isle.