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Region: Warzone Airspace
Can I have some finger food Tanou?
@Ritter, do you have any goose or turkey? I will have turkey if you have it in honor of my late good friend St.Mason who did a good deal for Unknown and all raiders alike.
~94
Congrads Codger on hitting the year mark, doesn't it make you realise how you've wasted your life :P
Not surprised to see LWU here today, must go find my WA.
congrz
And on the note of foreshadowing
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=1342955
Only now can you appreciate just how much this post screwed with our heads. :P
I'm sorry 94, only bratwurst and beer today, maybe tomorrow. . .
Well, I suspected you from the beginning, Hans. Before you just start mercilessly kicking people, I think all regularly active members have congradulated codger, the rest might not see your changes in time to know, and I'd hate for the region to potentially loose some of its valuable member base.
Ah, I didn't say all the people to congratulate him had to already have nations here.
But I do advise that people who wish Codger the best or take my threats seriously enough to come for the party avoid bringing in a WA to do so--unless they endorse me.
If i congratulate with a puppet does it count as 2? :P
No. Bad DYP. TO THE GRAVY PITS WITH YOU!
Congrats Codger! :)
Hi :P
Thats not right, Fratt :(
Ellie didnt say to say hi.....
Everyone knows NS is played only by 49 people the rest is just puppets. Maybe set the goal a little lower that it's actual reachable. Say 5 separate people?
And if puppets don't count what about siamese twins. Do they count as one or two?
It's already to 11 separate people and that's mostly raiders. I know the game's do-gooders can pull together what I require, or more. That they've done so little so far is rather disappointing.
Siamese twins count as dinner and a midnight snack.
Am i a mostly raider then? :P
Congratulations codger
Congrats Codger!!!
You all raided a Warzone hahahahaha!!!
Congrats Codger.
Bahahaha, that was a fast response to http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?ns=1&f=12&t=136315&p=9262962#p9262962.
I have /alot/ of time on my hands.
Oh my, this is fun. Perhaps I'll ban more often.
Not really surprised by that remark. Keeping a warzone captive is like holding TRR....you lose n the end.
*slight smile* I won't promise never to go for TRR, but I like my ban button. Even expiring it's better than none. Perhaps even more fun, as it allows for a more frequent struggle.
Let me also clarify: Airspace has been on my radar for a while--much more than any of the other warzones. Sure, you can raid a warzone and hold it for a while and it's 'legal'--but this warzone has been built to actually function and have a community. Other warzones? Too often they're easy, guilt-free pushovers that people don't bother to defend, and others only touch for practice or to say their military's doing something.
For years, that was Airspace. Now it's a prize worth taking.
So get off your pedestals and butts and try to stop me.
Times do change
Evil Wolf
Diplomat
Posts: 736
Founded: Apr 28, 2005
Father Knows Best State
by Evil Wolf » Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:31 am
Warzones are pointless themselves. They are play grounds for bored defender armies, since no self-respecting Crasher would be caught dead in those regions.
Congratz Codger!
Now thats one hell of a record, a constant delegacy for that long in a war zone....
Um, were we raided... Or um... Waredededed
And its established i have ben here a long the right lol, damn cte feature.
I'm happy raiders are taking an interest in Warzones. At last they've gone for a region that they can't grief for more than 12 hours :P Defenders don't even need to make switchers.
Life is interesting.
Congrats to Codger. *sticks tongue out at raiders* :-P
Good luck with the raid.
You will need it to keep control of a Warzone.
Ah, yes. Congratulations Codger.
Pointless, really. No one will stop me from selling my sweetsour WA approved finger food here.
Yay fingerfooood!!!!! And if you notice my flag then you know why i get my thing in a twist over that :)
`94
I'll have anything wrapped in bacon please! Oh, and whatever you have on tap.
As certain groups have failed to express their congratulations to Codger, I've upped the kill count to equal the congrats count. All ejected nations will be welcomed back... when we're done here.
I will congratulate Codger when 49 people have done so. :)
iIm back again :P
Funny things have happened, Reddevia II is going to try LWU. Which is just a little dim. I'm a defender.....i'll defend LWU. I nearly did once. And after getting ejected i got a recruitment message from Unknown, thats good timing.
I thought I don't need to log on this nation again, or at least once every 60 days.
I have a 'got a job' celebration drinks to go to tonight. I'll look into any TGs after that.
*Congratulates Codger, while wandering to and fro throughout NationStates...*
Done from the pub crawl,. give me 12 hours to sleep and sober... Lady Lolcat.
wait whats going on?
Codger got to 1 year, region as raided. Now Codger is drunk and going into hiding......and i'm about to get kicked again :P
:P on ejections!
This raid becomes more boring with every banjection.
Is ranked 5th in Warzone Airspace for Largest Retail Industry, scoring 3 on the Shrinkwrap Consignment Productivity Index. Yay, I'm #5 in Airspaice.
The Pharaoh of Upper and Lower Karsteinia has allowed the website WikiSpills to expose national documents for all the Warzone Airspace nations to see. While initially thought as a revolutionary gesture to prove His Greatness has nothing to hide, enthusiasm has since declined when it was revealed the last 56 emails sent from The Pharaoh's laptop has been variations on the question "What's a raid?" with progressively more curse words.
The newest email did appear to also congratulate "That blasted whelp Codger" on his "Whatever that %"¤& thing I don't %&"#! care about that he did." although some of the more eager generals interpreted the censored text as a declaration of war.
In times of raids others charge straight over the edge, The Pharaoh turns us left at the canyon.
sup
It's over. This silly raid is finally over.
...and not a second to soon.
[nation=short]The Great Destruction[/nation] do still want to be delegate? You now know what to expect in the future.
seeya
Fun, fun!
What the devil just happened? Ejected from the Warzone? Raids? The hell!?
Unkniown and LWU. Now TNI and Euro.
I am no longer the head of the community. I now only sit and lurk...
TBH, this is more in line with the original idea of the Warzone Codger(s), a group of stubborn misfits who lurk in Warzone and interact whoever people comes their way..not really minding if they got invaded, as we'll just keep coming back. Not really ruling a substantial region itself..
I'm taking it all back. Hail our new overlords. I promise not to return if you don't banject me. :P
Wow. This region is a mess now. I love how I got ejected. I been here longer than most here
I have no idea what happened. I only check in to leave odd messages or to read other odd messages, which tend to be lacking. Then BAM, there's a raid going on whatever that is, and BAM I'm banned. What the hell happened? I only came back because I had a sneaky suspicion the bans were part of a game of some sort. A game of raids and bans.
Welcome to the everyday reality of founderless regions, everyone.
The difference being that the South Pacific Army isn't going to cut and run and leave the region in turmoil, and boot out its residents.
We hope to promote stability and non-tyranny.
I think that's a far better commemoration to Codger's 365 days as delegate of Warzone Airspace, don't you?
Have a nice day :)
I'm all for stability but I don't know about the non-tyranny part. Anyway welcome new nations. I hope that TSP is going to be a valuable addition to Airspace.
It appears members of Kyzikos, including Unibot himself, have taken it upon themselves to attempt to take Warzone Airspace. Which explains why I had to eject and ban a great many nations just moments ago. Out of courtesy I haven't ejected A Unibotian Diplomat just yet, but if an explanation isn't forthcoming within 3 hours, I will.
As I was going to say, before this whole Drama Llama took place...
Before Codger stepped down, there were talks of introducing a democratic process to Warzone Airspace. At the time I was very dubious, and as recent events show, it didn't quite plan out. However, if the natives of Warzone Airspace overwhelmingly still wish to attempt to construct a Democracy in Airspace, then as long as the process is fair and inclusive, we will be happy to see this take place. The SPA sees little point in holding Warzones for the sake of holding Warzones, and despite what others seem to think, this was NOT a cut & run raid with the purpose of causing instability. If anything, instability is all this region has had since codger stepped down. We wish to change that.
Unibot has accused the South Pacific Army of becoming raiders for working with TNI and Europeia. This is not true in the slightest. The SPA does not take sides, and the SPA does not differentiate between raider/defender lines. We will work with whoever is prepared to work with us, and who wish to help us uphold the values of The South Pacific. We won't be drawn into Raider/Defender disputes. If we can work with Raiders and Defenders side by side, then we would gladly do so. It just so happened TNI volunteered to help us before we had to ask UDL. Due to recent events, we felt that UDL would refuse any such attempts to work with TNI, and to tell them of our operation here would have put the security of the mission at risk.
Personally, I'm in favor of a stable democracy in Warzone Airspace. Obviously, that's tougher than I had thought, and given recent events, I don't know how Codger kept things stable for a year.
If that's what the region wants, then the SPA will be happy to attempt to keep the region stable to allow this to take place.
TSP is getting into empire building then? Pretty sure there were elections going on before the first raid :P Might as well change the Coalition to Colony in the WFE :D
" and to tell them of our operation here would have put the security of the mission at risk."
You could have asked us in general whether we'd work with TNI and Europeia in a warzone mission; by teaming up with TNI and Euro exclusively, you made the whole mission look way more sinister.
I'm all for giving power to the people. But we never had that many WAs here. And now after the raid there are only three WAs who have so far returned.
If the SPA/TNI/Euro forces leave we're even more vulnerable than before. So how is this Airspace-Democracy going to work?
I like to point out that during Codgers reign there was never a democratic process whatsoever. And the region worked anyway.
So why bother with who is delegate. As we saw during Hans' reign raiders can't raid a warzone proper.
Warzones are probably the only regions where natives can grief the raiders just by returning after each ban-expiration.
Ha wait a minute....All the regions involved in this raid have treaties with Lazarus. And since i'm here i'm counting Laz as actually doing something with its army :P Wooo go me!!!!
Ok I'm Back
Wow, now I see what been going on over the weekend. I could not keep up with this mess since I was away from home.
As its elected leader, We formally request the SPA return control of Warzone Airspace to us in the care of myself as delegate. Furthermore we humbly ask for assistence in maintaining control for a few days by endorsing me as delegate untill we can retreive our WA members from the various reals in which they have been supplanted.
Wonderful :) Now we get to see if TSP will leave or try to make an "impression" :P
Knowing this is NationStates I bet the later.
More like knowing TNI are in the region :P
Following new legislation in Tanou, the nation's infamous boot camp is more brutal than most battlefields.
What does not kill you makes you stronger. That's why Tanou High Command promotes the use of real ammunition by newly drafted, unskilled soldiers. Only the most strongest and leathery skinned survive to fight for the glory of our great nation.
There's little point in returning power until the new delegate can maintain control. To go through all this and then see the region collapse would be pointless.
I suggest The Great Destruction gathers enough native support to allow us to withdraw.
agreed
Can't TSP elect TGF as delegate and wait around till the natives return or are you afraid he'll change the WFE :P
I just joined this region and understand the trials and tribulations that await its future I read up on everything from before the raid and after. I don't want to cause problems but it seems to me that the SPA is playing the role of world police they believe that there attempts to preserve peace and stability help but it only leaves my new homeland in disarray and unable to operate on its own in history it is a proven fact the strong forces that come and take over regions and nations never leave. So this brings up my next thought will the SPA really leave or will they just set up a puppet government that will last another year and come back. Will this be our routine these are only my thoughts and concerns. I don't want to stir up feelings of ill will.
I can promise you, there will be no puppet government controlled by the SPA here. We're moving on and moving forward after this mission. It was a successful mission, but nobody ever benefits from standing still for too long.
As I've discussed with The Great Destruction, once he's gained sufficient endorsements from regional natives, we will withdraw and let Airspace do as it pleases.
The South Pacific Army, I hope, will one day be known as a positive influence within the NationStates community, and a trusted one.
I doubt we'll be here very long. We have other missions to attend to, after all, and I'm sure our friends in TNI and Europeia have their own business to attend to as well.
So if UDL came in and endorsed the native delegate you wouldn't eject them? It wouldn't count as a raid :P
Drama!
I think The Great Destruction is Not going to change it unless you let us be liberated. Question? Why would the UDL come in and liberate a Warzone?
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy!? The Pharaoh of Upper and Lower Karsteinia was outraged that his government was no longer classified as a father knows best state. Inoffensive centrist democracy!? His Greatness, the Pharaoh, has outlawed the right to vote! And how can it be inoffensive when he had banned clothing and has millions of slaves manually swim the entire nation back into the Warzone Airspace. How can this be inoffensive? The Pharaoh is angry.
He would like to extend a note of thanks to The Great Destruction and The Warcracy of Tanou and performs this gesture by pointing missiles in all other directions than their nations for four hours every Monday for the rest of the week.
If UDL came and spoke to the SPA first, and it was discussed and agreed, I would have no issue with it - however, the point is to leave the region in a position where it is self sustaining, not propped up by outside forces. Artificially putting The Great Destruction back into power is just going to risk the delegacy being overthrown, and that would be a bad outcome, I'm sure you'd agree.
The goal is to leave the region in a stable position, to allow the natives to manage Warzone Airspace as they see fit. We need more natives, not more forces. I understand the desire to see things return to normal here as soon as possible, but as I have said repeatedly, we are here to help, not to permanently take control of Warzone Airspace. It would be saddening to see our recent efforts count for nothing, and watch another Warzone stagnate.
Whether you agree with our presence here or not, the Warzones are being talked about again. That's got to be a good thing :)
I doubt the UDL would bother liberating a warzone, and I'll be downright shocked if the take military action against TSP to do so. Maybe if it was just TNI and Europeia here. MAybe.
Ok, scratch that. I just moseyed over to the Gameplay forum and read the thread on what Unibot did. Apparently Unibot has even less than I thought, which isn't a very high bar to begin with. But color me shocked I guess.
Welcome back, old friends of Airspace. Glad many of you made through the ejections ok.
Thanks Tanou especially for TGing a lot of them I think?
Hope you are strapped and ready for the ride..., the past year was bit of an aberration. Warzones are either dead (like it has been before.) or designed to be places where drama occurs.
*occurs*
LoL!
I consider drama to be a considerable improvement :)
It's moment like this, where everyone's attention is focused, that things manage to get done. The best we can do is take advantage of the opportunity and keep Warzone Airspace as functional as you had left it, Codger. As you already know I'm sure, things took a turn for the worse when you left. For now, things are stable, and hopefully when power is handed back over to the natives, Warzone Airspace will find a nice groove to settle into.
My telegram inbox is always open, Codger, if there's anything you wish to discuss, or if there's anything the SPA can do to help with the transition of getting this place back to whatever constitutes as normality in a Warzone.
Sheepa.
Your friendly, neighborhood Sheep.
@Codger: Ain't that the truth
As a long term resident i am most displeased at this turn of events.
Frankly i would say the Great Destruction should be elected leader of Airspace.
(drama)
We must not forget that this is a WARZONE. Now that Codger has stepped down Airspace will be back on the target lost once again. We are just here to try and put y'all in a better position to defend yourselves before someone just jumps in and takes over entirely.
That's true but we won't be able to do exactly what we want when your people are in charge unless they do what we want but I don't recall anybody doing that
Endorse Great Destruction, the sooner he gathers some native support the sooner we can go back to our other obligations. We are only here to help, I can see how it might not seem that way to some. And again, this is a WARZONE. Not a founder less player created region. Claiming a WARZONE as your homeland, you couldn't have expected any less than a hostile environment on a regular basis.
I'm back!
Sigh, codger this has turned bothersome.
Beach Kelps, I love the account spam that is endorsing you.
You could also all endorse Great Destruction yourself, and hope natives will follow. Right?
Ding ding ding we have a winner
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