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We would like to propose a region-wide ban on the death penalty, meaning even if a nation has the policy, there would be a region-enforced moratorium on its administration.

The death penalty is cruel, is a violation of human rights, shows no proof of decreasing crime, and in nature offers no ability to emancipate those incorrectly convicted.

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As acting Councillor of Culture, I hereby announce the start of Refugia's first Green Week(s)~

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1455778

Now through November 16th, whoever greenifies their nation the most will have their name plastered on our discord channels at least until the end of the year, but more likely until I forget to change it sometime after that.

Great news. I've just learned that I am allowed to ban myself from Refugia.

You are so omnipotent, you can even create a stone you cannot lift up! Later, of course, you could. Such is the nature of omnipotence.

You have to get an issue that allows to abolish that policy.

A big reason why both raw number and percentage is included is to favour both older and younger nations for different things. While you might not get high percentage swings, the raw number of growth in those instances usually is higher. :)

The Avalonian High Commission for Foreign Affairs would be interested in learning about the policy of Child Labor in [nation=long]Flohovistan[/nation], and to clarify if there is a moratorium on its legality, or if the practice is employed still.

Are there instances when children are depended on to work and earn money, or where children's jobs interfere with their childhoods? Or are there limits on the amount of work children can take on?

(We just like to know the full picture, I don't mean for this to come across as an interrogation)

What other countries have royalty?

We in Avalonia have a royal family, and our head of state is traditionally known as the Queen in Camelot, and is officially Her Majesty, the Queen Margrethe Amalia of Avalonia, the Empress of the Avalonian Commonwealth.

I am not a monarchy but technicaly a Oligarchy somehow.

Chacapoya has been run on and off by a single royal family, but is currently run by a shadow council after recently deposing the former ruler.

Flohovistan was previously a monarchy ruled by the Fargleam family, until the brutal civil war that caused our founding.

Where is the Fargleam family now / would they like to live in Avalonia / do they have any of their palaces or Crown Jewels left over?

The Sonderburg House would like to offer a royal residence to the Jenevoan Monarchy in Avalonia.

*waves*

Hello!

Greeting #1.

The Fargleams were all killed. They have no known survivors. The original member, Sephiroth Fargleam, was a farmer who killed the previous lineage, the Mycelium family. Their palace was converted into the government building, and their crown jewels were sold to other nations to gain money, which is why our economy rose quickly after the first few days.

Even if the Fargleams were alive, we would not let them live in Avalonia, because they are enemies of the state and were fascist.

The chain was broken. Unfortunate.

[nation=Lower French Gregballs] used to be ruled by the McGregory, until he was certified insane and taken to a sanatorium. His secretary then took over, elections were held and it became a democratic state.

International humanitarian organisations are applauding the government for ending the death penalty.

Yey.

Is there an easier way to keep track of who you've endorsed besides going through all the world assembly members to check if you've endorsed them?

It's hard to remember everyone I've endorsed.

The Avalonian Government would like to invite the leaders of Feu De Glace to Avalonia, to discuss relations and possible parternships.

The Avalonian Government would like to meet with the government of Dia Hedera, to discuss any support or aid that Avalonia can give to our neighbor to the south.

Sometimes I fear accidentally clicking "Pin dispatch to Refugia" or "Unpin dispatch from Refugia" without realizing it.

If you go to the Refugia Regional Map link and scroll to the bottom, you'll find the submission form.

"Want to join this cool map club? If you're a Member State in Refugia, all you have to do is fill out the form at the bottom of this dispatch and send it to Sylh Alanor in a telegram. I will make sure that your information is updated as soon as possible. The last update is listed at the top of this dispatch and will be changed every time a new nation or overlay is added. Furthermore, I will make a post in the RMB alerting everyone to the updates when they occur. If there are any questions, please do not hesitate to ask me over the RMB or telegram. I will respond as soon as I am able."-directions at the top of the Regional Map dispatch

The League of the Democratic Left is pleased to announce that it has established a prohibition on corporal and capital punishment in the membership.

Hi, welcome to Refugia!

May I interest you in a small bowl of justice rice?

How do you get the Regional Map to reload so that you can see changes to it? On my side, the map looks the same as it did before I expanded.

Welcome to Guggenball, Lemocia, Pasalis, Viszugh, Ardeng, The Individualist Coalition, Wimerstan, Haymarketland, Galeano, and Ath Holia! If any of you have any questions about Nationstates or Refugia, please let us know either here or on the Discord server! Everyone here is super friendly. Also, if you haven't already, consider signing up for the World Assembly by clicking the link on the left sidebar and becoming a member state! Member States get to be put on our regional map, vote in our referendums and elections, and even run for office.

Also welcome to our friends Eriadnian Arcadia and Lethodus <3

I just read the original and the repeal proposal and I think I agree on all points. I noticed while reading the original that it seems to do extremely little to actually enforce anything. If I had the level of engagement with studying WA issues then as I do now, that probably would have led me to vote against it. I'd certainly like to see a good repeal draft for this, but I think you're entirely right that this one just isn't written well enough for it to be the one. The IP thing struck me as extremely weird as well, it seemed to come entirely out of nowhere.

I've also now read the thread involved and even though the proposal was submitted approximately six weeks ago, I think the author was sort of rushing to get it put up (perhaps to get an authorship before snapshot? Idk, I wouldn't blame them for that lol). Even after the point where they had stated they were going to be submitting it, people were citing basic grammar issues. Also the IP issue was pointed out several times in the thread and kind of swept over, which I don't think was a good decision.

I think this is worth voting against unless anyone else has thoughts on it :o

A large ring-shaped spacecraft several kilometers across, painted blue, descends from the sky.

"Permission to land in national waters, Flohovistan?" asks a voice that your comms monitors pick up.

"Loud and clear, land in water off the coast of Flohovia," a second voice responds.

The vehicle slowly lands from the sky and splashes down in the water.

I showed this months ago but I thought I should share it again especially now that we have so many new members and it's Green Week!

A fun and informative way to track your progress in the environment categories and allows you to ensure that you are on the track you want to be is by creating a dispatch in which you record your stats and illustrate your growth. I do so for myself in my own dispatch which I update monthly.

Its also kinda like being your own Environmental Minister (or something equivalent) so thats kinda neat too.

One of my goals for the near future is get my Political Freedoms to 77 or higher, my Civil Rights to 76 or higher, and my Economy to 97 or higher, beating my records in all three stats.

Also welcome to Lipolesh! If you have any questions about Nationstates or Refugia, let us know! We also have a Discord server linked in the World Factbook Entry at the top of the page in case you're interested in chatting with us in real time.

I also recommend checking out and, if you're interested, signing up with the World Assembly on the left sidebar of the page! Being a World Assembly nation qualifies you to become a member state, be on our map, and vote on regional referenda/elections! You can even run for a regional council seat someday if you want to ^-^

Repeal: (https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=makdon_1604596273)

Target: (https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_past_resolution/id=249/council=2)

Hey everyone, just thought I’d bring up this upcoming Security Council proposal Repeal: “Commend Wintony”. It looks like it’ll reach quorum soon, and that means it’ll be up for vote in not too long. I wanted to mention the repeal because, after reading everything involved, the original commend is super weird. Lemme give you some quotes to highlight what I’m talking about:

I know this is very long quote, but I needed to illustrate my point. This is a significant portion of the original commendation, and it has nothing to do with Wintony’s achievements. It’s almost a shadow condemnation of Illuminati as a region, it’s very odd. There are other elements of this in the commendation, and only a paragraph or two that actually refer to the target of the commendation. Telling a story is an important element of a Security Council resolution, but in other resolutions the story is usually a list of accomplishments, not just a narration.

Anyway, there are other points made in the repeal that are worth considering as well. There’s no problem with someone getting a commendation for their work building up a region, if they’ve spent a significant time doing it and accomplished a lot of things along the way. To give it to someone who hasn’t done as much in that pursuit is to dismiss the people who have accomplished more in the same field. The repeal draft goes on to highlight that Wintony never actually accomplished anything substantial or lasting during their time in Illuminati.

I’m going to recommend we vote for the repeal of this.

To those who voted against the current Word Assembly Repeal, the majority of us, I would like to know the reasoning behind your decision. I would just like to see it through your eyes because I don't understand your perspective.

The League of the Democratic Left is pleased to announce that it has instituted a new policy of judicial review. Form now on, all courts in the League of the Democratic Left will be equally obligated towards human rights and international law as to their own respective constitutions. Additionally, courts may overrule government actions, the constitution and laws should they be found in violation of international law or human rights. The High Commission of the League of the Democratic Left on International Law has been established by the LDL to respond to appeals to overruling of national law or government actions on the grounds of international law. If there are found to be valid concerns with international law, the High Commission of the League of the Democratic Left on International Law will establish new protocol and legal principles to take precedent in the specific area of international law.

This new system will elevate human rights over arbitrary national boundaries, and will defend them against the dangers of democratic tyranny.

Z-Day! Zombies infected your nation (as well as most other nations in NS) and your region-mates cured them of disease!

Don't worry Atlae, you were purified in the light of a thousand suns (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧

A mainstay of 2020 is wanting a more left leaning candidate than Biden.

Safe travels.

Aww thank you so much, that means a lot! I'm hoping to read some of the potential upcoming proposals tonight and supply thoughts on them as well ^-^'

Dracarystan

Your puppet Komrades In Hell has been spamming both UCRs and GCRs with recruitment posts. This is against the rules of both a majority of these regions, and NationStates itself. While this isn’t reason to ban all of your accounts from the region, breaking site rules is cause for ejecting any individual nation.

O.o Melenavenia came from a Youtubeist

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Thanks so much for joining us ^-^

My initial thoughts after reading it over a few times and struggling through some of the IC discussion of the later drafts:

- I agree that it's way too broad in defining "sites of religious significance," particularly in that inclusion of "places of religious community." You could designate every building in some small towns under this definition.

- This proposal "[f]urther clarifies that member nations must allow sites as designated by the OPRS to be deemed significant and made compliant with this resolution," but provides no details on how sites will be made compliant - or how they'll be protected, for that matter, outside of the cop out answer of "[w]ork with member nations to develop an effective plan to protect designated sites of religious significance." I see a lot of clarity about what can and can't be done to these sites and very little about the actions they want to take and the responsibilities they want to foist onto member nations.

- I may be reading more into this than is intended, but I feel like the subsection under 4 where it forbids "[c]ausing permanent disrepair or irreparable damage to sites of religious significance" could be construed as charging the owners or caretakers of these sites if they damage or decay over time due to a lack of upkeep. If that is the case, coupled with the loose definitions of religious sites, it seems like this could take on an overly authoritarian view toward the people it's ostensibly trying to help.

- Clause 7, "Urges member nations to take additional measures to provide for the security of sites of religious significance including appointing third-party controllers of religious sites in the event that this would prove to be more conducive to their continued survival and maintenance than local administration," feels to me like it undermines the entire proposal by conceding that it won't solve the problems it's setting out to solve. Participants are called upon to commit to uncertain terms and then told they'll likely be on their own in upholding them. What's the upshot here? What does this do for anyone?

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Because I don't think it's been brought up yet, there's been an update to the regional map as of last night. It now features Nova Nova Hibernia, Pedesko, Asmeodaeus, Lower French Gregballs, and New Camelot Of Avalonia. The latter has been granted an extraordinarily large parcel due to it's advanced age.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1287372

Hello everyone!

Few hours ago I started leading my beloved nation, Neawa, in this fabulous region. My fellow citizens and I hope we all have a good relationship.

Best regards,

Shui Len

President of Neawa

Interesting! I didn’t know that was out there. I’m curious to know how everyone found out about NationStates and how to use it?

I believe you become a member 7 days after you join the region

Thanks to Chacapoya for seconding and the rest of the region for helping to pass the RESPECT amendment. ^_^