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Pluvie wrote:My motto is an actual Maya Angelou quote and one of my favorite quotes ever.

I like your motto. Very fitting.

Inversa wrote:Inversa has question

What is orgin of your motto? Why was said motto used?

Inversa is curious

My motto originates in a contest where we were asked to change our mogtto to reflect our positive attitude towards Refugia, and it fitted well with the jolly nature of our nation.

Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Pluvie, Michelland, Ongmonnif, Inversa

My motto is Elvhen for "we will outlast you", a reference to the time they were oppressed in my silly lore factbooks xD

Lower French Gregballs, Refuge Isle, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Michelland, Ongmonnif, Inversa

Inversa wrote:Inversa has question

What is orgin of your motto? Why was said motto used?

Inversa is curious

It comes, as do all things, from the motto of the actual Junitaki-cho township. I thought it was appropriate to the region too.

Lower French Gregballs, Refuge Isle, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Michelland, Laisou, Ongmonnif, Inversa

Post by The Confederate States Of Tge suppressed by Chacapoya.

The Confederate States Of Tge

excuse me, but is there a Pluvie here? I would like to apologise for something I accidentally did to them. Are they available?

The Confederate States Of Tge wrote:excuse me, but is there a Pluvie here? I would like to apologise for something I accidentally did to them. Are they available?

No, sorry.

Laisou

Post by The Confederate States Of Tge suppressed by Chacapoya.

The Confederate States Of Tge

Sylh Alanor wrote:No, sorry.

oh, that's funny. It says they are in this region. huh.

Well, if you see them, tell them I really wanted to apologise. I don't even want to be friends afterwards if they don't want to. Just apologise. That's it.

The Confederate States Of Tge wrote:oh, that's funny. It says they are in this region. huh.

Well, if you see them, tell them I really wanted to apologise. I don't even want to be friends afterwards if they don't want to. Just apologise. That's it.

Please leave.

Elenaraghaenaris, The Confederate States Of Tge, Laisou

Post by The Confederate States Of Tge suppressed by Chacapoya.

The Confederate States Of Tge

Sylh Alanor wrote:Please leave.

ok. Sorry.

Inversa wrote:Inversa has question

What is orgin of your motto? Why was said motto used?

Inversa is curious

"Division equates death." Division leads to unrest and unrest leads to violence and violence leads to death.

Lower French Gregballs, Refuge Isle, Elenaraghaenaris, Laisou, Inversa

Melenavenia wrote:"Division equates death." Division leads to unrest and unrest leads to violence and violence leads to death.

I just want to point out that "division" could mean different things (depending on context. In the context of your motto, it means "strife.")

Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Laisou

ughhhhhhhhhh

So all that stuff about Honeydew and the really nice commendation of Singapore No2? Put that on hold for a few days. First we have to reckon with Condemn Alentejo and Algarve.

Proposal: https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=alentejozinho_and_algarvezinho_1609698678

Forum thread: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=496583

So if you don't spend much time in the SC forum, good on you for making smart decisions. You might not have noticed a little thread about a proposal to Commend Portugal. This draft was put forth by Alentejo and Algarve, and aimed to commend the Portugal region of which they are the executive delegate. It was submitted without asking for feedback, marked as illegal twice, and generally seen unfavourably. In response, Alentejozinho and Algarvezinho put up this very snarky proposal to condemn Alentejo and Algarve for going against the SC grain. They claim to be two separate players; I don't believe them. Regardless of identity, this is more of a middle finger to the SC establishment than a genuine effort to recognize any achievement or actions, and it's baffling to me that Tinhampton requested it be brought to a vote.

As the recently elected "CWAA!", I'd typically want to stimulate some discussion and then form a written opinion prior to the vote. But given the frivolous nature of this referendum and its unexpectedly reaching quorum, I'm recommending against this proposal. There's room for humour in the SC, but not like this.

Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Pluvie, Free Las Pinas Ii, Michelland, Laisou

Nat sums it up pretty dang good, but in addition, the author has actively flamed and insulted the SC and members of it and has personally made 3+ threads go way off topic and generally turn super toxic and awful. I have 0 respect for them and besides just the absolute garbage that is this proposal, I doubt I’d be for if it was good either

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Michelland, Junitaki-Cho, Laisou

Junitaki-Cho wrote:ughhhhhhhhhh

I love this xD Thank you for summarising my feelings on the proposal immediately.

I've been watching this progress through the SC forum and it's just been one long train of toxicity. Beyond that, the author took their anger about Commend Portugal not going well far beyond just this proposal, to the point of being officially warned by the mods for being toxic. It's in bad faith, it's not terribly funny, and the author has been behaving awfully.

I'll be voting against this the second it's up for vote.

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Refuge Isle, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Pluvie, Michelland, Junitaki-Cho, Laisou

Junitaki-Cho wrote:But given the frivolous nature of this referendum and its unexpectedly reaching quorum, I'm recommending against this proposal. There's room for humour in the SC, but not like this.

Well put. There have been many joke proposals, both floated and passed before. In the last year, there was Condemn This Game and the attempt to Condemn Deruuu. This, however, is not remotely in that style of proposal; it is immature and self-serving, apparently pushed to make a political statement, and generally written to be an all around bad time.

As the winter gently increases our heating charges, may the kindling of this burning resolution warm our hands. Will be voting Against.

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Pluvie, Junitaki-Cho, Laisou, Bellerre

Welcome The Gilded Marigold and Medab to Refugia! You both seem well versed in NS so I will spare you the usual spiel. If you do join the World Assembly on the particular nation you are using here, please endorse Sylh Alanor though!

Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Elenaraghaenaris, Bellerre, Ongmonnif, The Gilded Marigold

I finally ceased being an Inoffensive Centrist Democracy. Nothing offends me more than being officially called Inoffensive. Goes to check level of Rebellious Youth

Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris, Laisou, Ongmonnif, Tovenia

Lower French Gregballs wrote:I finally ceased being an Inoffensive Centrist Democracy. Nothing offends me more than being officially called Inoffensive. Goes to check level of Rebellious Youth

I'm offended.

Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Elenaraghaenaris, Laisou, Ongmonnif

Melenavenia wrote:I'm offended.

Why?

Refuge Isle, Laisou

Lower French Gregballs wrote:Why?

Believe that was a joke.

Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Laisou, Ongmonnif

Inversa is happy to get this information

Inversa thanks the nations that gave information of their motto orgins

Lower French Gregballs, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Michelland, Junitaki-Cho, Laisou, Ongmonnif

Inversa is also curious on the flags of other Refugi Nations such as their symbolism, meaning and orgins

Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Free Las Pinas Ii, Ongmonnif, Tovenia

Inversa wrote:Inversa is also curious on the flags of other Refugi Nations such as their symbolism, meaning and orgins

The purple symbolizes the old monarchy, the blue is for the new republic, the cyan for the ocean surrounding Laisou and the star for liberty.

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Michelland, Inversa

It's my IRL country's flag. The red symbolises "universal brotherhood and equality of man", and white symbolises "pervading and everlasting purity and virtue". The waxing crescent moon represents a "young nation on the ascendant". The five stars stand for the nation's ideals of "democracy, peace, progress, justice and equality"

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Michelland, Inversa

Today's the last day to turn in a submission for the winter flag contest

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1484369

I will be launching a poll for member states in approximately 20 to 22ish hours to determine the winners. Send in a submission while there's still time!

Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Michelland, Junitaki-Cho, Ongmonnif

Inversa wrote:Inversa is also curious on the flags of other Refugi Nations such as their symbolism, meaning and orgins

My flag is my families coat of arms / shield from a bygone time when knights were still a thing.

Less deep than some other answers but there it is.

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Ongmonnif, Inversa

Inversa wrote:Inversa is also curious on the flags of other Refugi Nations such as their symbolism, meaning and orgins

I don't think anyone in Lower French Gregballs really knows the answer. Rumor has it, the first leader of our nation, the McGregory, had his 6-y/o niece draw it in Drawing Class on her old McIntosh computer, back in 1994. The people of Lower French Gregballs like it, we hope you like it too!

Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Cadenzana, Inversa, Tovenia

Inversa wrote:Inversa is also curious on the flags of other Refugi Nations such as their symbolism, meaning, and orgins

My flag is the seal of Solomon because he is the one who was able to unite Daemons enough to be able to overthrow the old and corrupt Emeralis reign via regicide. He is the one who chose Emerdine and Drake as the first leaders of Elenaraghaenaris.

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Inversa

Hello! I just joined here so can we all be good friends? I look foward to seeing your messages.

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris, Junitaki-Cho, Laisou, Atrilia, Ongmonnif, Inversa, Liphia, Tovenia

Gentia wrote:Hello! I just joined here so can we all be good friends? I look foward to seeing your messages.

Inversa welcomes your great nation, to this great region

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Ongmonnif, Gentia

Gentia wrote:Hello! I just joined here so can we all be good friends? I look foward to seeing your messages.

Welcome to Refugia friend!! We’re glad to have you around ^-^ If you have any questions let us know. Oh and frens for sure :3

Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Ongmonnif, Inversa, Gentia

Gentia wrote:Hello! I just joined here so can we all be good friends? I look foward to seeing your messages.

nice to have you here :3

I'd love for you to drop by my telegrams or something if you want to, see you later alligator!!

Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Ongmonnif, Inversa, Gentia

thx guyz cya later.

Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Indimu, Inversa

Gentia wrote:Hello! I just joined here so can we all be good friends? I look forward to seeing your messages.

Fellow nation! The anonymous leader of Ongmonnif welcomes you to this amazing region! Hope you enjoy your stay here!

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Inversa

I wanted to ask how you guys doing and how much population do you have? I have 5 million.

Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Ongmonnif, Inversa

Inversa wrote:Inversa is also curious on the flags of other Refugi Nations such as their symbolism, meaning and orgins
Mine is to celebrate freedom with bright colors and nice colors.

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Refuge Isle, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Inversa

we added some states these are the first five Lacio Drico Lacci Gacula Doniec

Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Laisou, Inversa

Gentia wrote:I wanted to ask how you guys doing and how much population do you have? I have 5 million.

Population(pops as I call them) grow naturally

They will have a constant growth rate regardless and so your population will rise, you dont need to build farms or something haha

As you get more pops you'll be able to have a Capitial city or a name for the leader or even a religion!

It all comes down to a big wait from my experiences

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris, Laisou, Ongmonnif, Gentia

Inversa wrote:Inversa is also curious on the flags of other Refugi Nations such as their symbolism, meaning and orgins

My country is very proud of its environment and the animals found within it. A sacred animal to the Melenavesians is the polar bear. They admire its strength and they admire the pure love of a mother bear and her cub. They wish to protect the polar bear because they recognize that even the strongest sometimes need protecting so that is why the polar bear is on a shield. The color is for the blue waters that surround the frigid waters of the Melenavenian islands. They value this water because it offers natural protection from the outside world and also because not only is the polar bear a hunter and fighter on land but also in the water.

Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Elenaraghaenaris, Michelland, Ongmonnif, Inversa, Of Your Mom

Inversa wrote:Inversa is also curious on the flags of other Refugi Nations such as their symbolism, meaning and orgins

Mine is a combination of the Sami flag and the Progress Pride flag, as an evolution of the former flag which was a combination of the Sami and traditional Pride flags. I chose the combo as an homage to my heritage and to my identity.

Lower French Gregballs, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris, Pluvie, Ongmonnif, Inversa

Heya Refugia,

Submissions are now concluded for the winter flag contest. Go visit https://vote.calref.network/ to select your chosen picks.

Consult this dispatch to see which flag is which. Voting will end on Sunday, January 10th.

Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Junitaki-Cho, Bellerre, Ongmonnif, Inversa

Inversa has question

Pros and Cons of Nuclear Energy, either mechanic wise or lore wise

Inversa is looking to decide if Nuclear Energy can be very viable

Refuge Isle, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Michelland

Inversa wrote:Inversas HDI is 55

Inverse is aware of how low that is

What is the HDI of other nations?

And would Inversa be considered 3rd world now?

86.08, I don't think Inversa is a third world country, purely because of its average lifespan of 78.36 years

Refuge Isle, Melenavenia, Michelland, Inversa

Elenaraghaenaris wrote:86.08, I don't think Inversa is a third world country, purely because of its average lifespan of 78.36 years

86

That's alot

But yay Inversa isnr 3rd world country well not yet haha

Refuge Isle, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Michelland

Welcome Trealto Agapis, Muhanlace, Darths And Droids, The Ascendant Hive, The Greater Imperial Akagi-Musashi, Wilder Groves, and Luce Mia to Refugia! If you have any questions about the region or how NationStates works feel free to leave it here on the RMB! You can also join our Discord server found at the top of the page within our region description. We're all friendly and don't bite!

If you haven't already, consider joining the World Assembly (located on the left sidebar) which will allow you to become a Member State! Member States are able to get a spot on our map (link in the region's description), vote in regional polls, and even run for office when elections come up! If you're not interested in that, that's completely fine! We're a chill laid back community and we aim to make everyone's experience here as wonderful as possible.

Chacapoya, Darths And Droids, The Ascendant Hive, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Junitaki-Cho, Laisou, Ongmonnif

Greetings, all. I lay claim to all of your yellow trophies.

Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Ongmonnif, Inversa

Darths And Droids wrote:Greetings, all. I lay claim to all of your yellow trophies.

;-; at least I still have integrity - the most important stat

Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Ongmonnif

Darths And Droids wrote:Greetings, all. I lay claim to all of your yellow trophies.

No you don't, I claim the most relevant yellowed trophies.

Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia

HOW are you second in the world in welfare???

Lower French Gregballs, Darths And Droids, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Junitaki-Cho, Ongmonnif

Refuge Isle wrote:HOW are you second in the world in welfare???

I really can't tell you, because I don't know. Truth be told, I didn't even think about this stat until I glanced at the rankings one day and saw I was 3rd in the world. My real goal has always been Primitiveness and Religiousness, and the complete destruction of my nation's economy. Well, surely the only things I need for economy is my inefficient government and tourism, everything else, including that pernicious Manufacturing and Basket Weaving stuff, can gtfo.

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Ongmonnif

Darths And Droids wrote:the complete destruction of my nation's economy.

I guess that makes sense when my largest welfare boost came from undoing the industrial revolution in Refuge Isle...

Welcome to Refugia!

Lower French Gregballs, Darths And Droids, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Michelland, Junitaki-Cho, Ongmonnif

Refuge Isle wrote:I guess that makes sense when my largest welfare boost came from undoing the industrial revolution in Refuge Isle...

Welcome to Refugia!

I like to think my nation is an absurd parody of what American conservatives think a liberal state is like in reality, just as The Ascendant Hive is an absurd parody of what American liberals think a conservative state is like in reality.

And thank you, it looks like this is a much saner region than my last one. It was quite boring, to be honest, just one fellow me posting stat updates daily on the RMB.

Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Laisou, Ongmonnif

A note to like-bots: careful when you do that. NS Mods don't like that.

Melenavenia

Darths And Droids wrote:A note to like-bots: careful when you do that. NS Mods don't like that.

All likes in this region are manually done, if that's what you mean.

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Junitaki-Cho, Laisou

Refuge Isle wrote:All likes in this region are manually done, if that's what you mean.

"Like-bot" is a colloquial term that originated in The Pacific and spread to Forest. It describes those who, among other things, catch up with the day's posts by "like"ing all of the posts they have missed throughout the course of the day.

For your reading pleasure: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=454598

Lower French Gregballs, Melenavenia

Darths And Droids wrote:"Like-bot" is a colloquial term that originated in The Pacific and spread to Forest. It describes those who, among other things, catch up with the day's posts by "like"ing all of the posts they have missed throughout the course of the day.

For your reading pleasure: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=454598

Part of the reason I like the posts on the RMB is to confirm to myself when I look back at the RMB that I actually saw the post and read it. I don't agree with the reasoning behind someone getting punished for that unless its automated or being used to harass but I think I'll be fine.

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Refuge Isle, Laisou

Melenavenia wrote:Part of the reason I like the posts on the RMB is to confirm to myself when I look back at the RMB that I actually saw the post and read it. I don't agree with the reasoning behind someone getting punished for that unless its automated or being used to harass but I think I'll be fine.

Me neither, especially because it was a politically motivated report. In other words, using moderators as a weapon.

Melenavenia, Laisou

Darths And Droids wrote:"Like-bot" is a colloquial term that originated in The Pacific and spread to Forest. It describes those who, among other things, catch up with the day's posts by "like"ing all of the posts they have missed throughout the course of the day.

For your reading pleasure: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=454598

The instances in the thread does not describe the climate of Refugia. There is not a disproportionate ratio of likes to posts, and there haven't been any requests to stop or claims of harassment submitted on this RMB or to the government.

I would caution such warnings being posted here, or the suggestion of mod action out of the blue. As was described in the thread, it is a phenomena that is common in Forest and, indeed, it is common here as well.

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Junitaki-Cho, Laisou, Bellerre

Melenavenia wrote:Part of the reason I like the posts on the RMB is to confirm to myself when I look back at the RMB that I actually saw the post and read it. I don't agree with the reasoning behind someone getting punished for that unless its automated or being used to harass but I think I'll be fine.

That's something I noticed in Forest. For the most part, I just like posts here that I agree with or relate to. Admittedly it's most of them, but not all.

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Melenavenia, Laisou

Refuge Isle wrote:The instances in the thread does not describe the climate of Refugia. There is not a disproportionate ratio of likes to posts, and there haven't been any requests to stop or claims of harassment submitted on this RMB or to the government.

I would caution such warnings being posted here, or the suggestion of mod action out of the blue. As was described in the thread, it is a phenomena that is common in Forest and, indeed, it is common here as well.

Until it is reported. As in the thread, it does not appear in the One Stop Shop, and at the time the report happened, it was during a period of time when the Pacific's RMB was under attack by politically motivated spammers (re: 2018, the end of Francoism in The Pacific and the changing of governments), who did their utmost best to disrupt the RMB culture. Like-botting was one of those things that disappeared, but has made a resurgence, until the next time.

Melenavenia, Laisou

Darths And Droids wrote:Until it is reported. As in the thread, it does not appear in the One Stop Shop, and at the time the report happened, it was during a period of time when the Pacific's RMB was under attack by politically motivated spammers (re: 2018, the end of Francoism in The Pacific and the changing of governments), who did their utmost best to disrupt the RMB culture. Like-botting was one of those things that disappeared, but has made a resurgence, until the next time.

If there is a complaint registered, it will be dealt with. Such a thing is also in your linked thread.

Is there a reason this is a hill you're presently dying on?

Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Junitaki-Cho, Laisou

Refuge Isle wrote:If there is a complaint registered, it will be dealt with. Such a thing is also in your linked thread.

Is there a reason this is a hill you're presently dying on?

Not particularly.

Lower French Gregballs, Melenavenia, Laisou

Notice:

Lethodus and Emojitheft have inspired us to put things back in order to use the forum again. If chat programs like Discord are not to your particular liking or it's not possible for you to join one for whatever reason, consider making an account and post on the forum. We apparently have a blistingingly vast array of new spam topics, and Sylh Alanor is working on some roleplay ideas. If you're a gameside-only person and want to get involved legislating content for Refugia, you can also use the Refugia board to think about drafting your own referendum.

Because we're just getting this going again, I may be a bit slow to see that everything is up to date, but it'll get there.

The link to the forums is https://calref.cc/ and that link has also been added to the region's World Factbook Entry for easy-access later on.

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Lethodus, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Free Las Pinas Ii, Junitaki-Cho, Ongmonnif, Tovenia

Refuge Isle wrote:and Sylh Alanor is working on some roleplay ideas.

In fact, one might say it's ALREADY UP :hyper: open to anyone who wants to join!

Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Michelland, Junitaki-Cho, Ongmonnif, Nerdy Tangent

Hello friends :)

Nottinghaven, Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Araine, Michelland, Junitaki-Cho, Indimu, Laisou, Cadenzana, Ongmonnif, Inversa, Tovenia

Nerdy Tangent wrote:Hello friends :)

Howdy! Your message is extremely liked!

Sylh Alanor, Michelland, Laisou, Ongmonnif, Inversa, Nerdy Tangent

Nerdy Tangent wrote:Hello friends :)

Hiiiiiii! *hugs*

Melenavenia, Michelland, Laisou, Ongmonnif, Inversa, Nerdy Tangent

Darths and Droids is ranked 89th in the world and 1st in Refugia for Best Weather, with 1,883 Meters Of Sunlight.

Melenavenia, Inversa

Darths And Droids wrote:Darths and Droids is ranked 89th in the world and 1st in Refugia for Best Weather, with 1,883 Meters Of Sunlight.

Good job.

Inversa

Notice:

Friendly reminder that this is the last day to turn in your vote for the winner of the Winter Flag Contest!

Around this time tomorrow, I'll announce the winners assuming I don't forget. If you haven't already, vote now at https://vote.calref.network/

Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Michelland, Junitaki-Cho, Ongmonnif, Nerdy Tangent

The next SC vote will be Commend Northrop-Grumman.

Proposal: https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=makdon_1609953119

Forum thread: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=495175

I've been depressed this week and haven't taken the time to properly look into this one, so this is more of a conversation starter. As I understand it, NG does some helpful recordkeeping type stuff, and they also developed what would become the site's official dark theme (hence all the hamfisted darkness references). It seems well written, if a little thin, but I'm looking for input from others on whether it's a worthy target.

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Free Las Pinas Ii, Michelland, Honeydewitopia, Nerdy Tangent

Junitaki-Cho wrote:The next SC vote will be Commend Northrop-Grumman.

Proposal: https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=makdon_1609953119

Forum thread: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=495175

I've been depressed this week and haven't taken the time to properly look into this one, so this is more of a conversation starter. As I understand it, NG does some helpful recordkeeping type stuff, and they also developed what would become the site's official dark theme (hence all the hamfisted darkness references). It seems well written, if a little thin, but I'm looking for input from others on whether it's a worthy target.

I'm so sorry you haven't been feeling well! If it helps, I've taken a look at this for the discussion going on in another place.

It might be that I'm used to a certain style of English, but there are some grammatical and spelling issues in the text that rub me the wrong way. Mainly the use of "nation's" to mean non-possessive plural instead of possessive-singular. It happens a few times at the beginning, most notably here:

0 wrote:The indexes of Northrop-Grumman contain useful references to information nation's have chosen to provide that is relevant...

Having read the thread, a couple people mentioned the grammatical errors, but only in passing and they were never addressed. Also, the over-reliance on the word dark makes much more sense in retrospect, knowing that NG created the site's dark theme. In fact, that's the entire point of the commendation, but they're trying to get around the fact that NG is site staff. So they highlight these indexes that other people contributed to and he just put into a thread. Which is neat, but I don't think it's commendable at all.

It reads very similarly to Free Joy State; an attempt to appease a member of site staff for work they mostly did as staff (which isn't legal). It's padded and the author tries to be sneaky about it, but it's pretty obvious to me. I'm leaning against.

Melenavenia, Free Las Pinas Ii, Honeydewitopia, Junitaki-Cho, Nerdy Tangent

Junitaki-Cho wrote:The next SC vote will be Commend Northrop-Grumman.

Proposal: https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=makdon_1609953119

Forum thread: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=495175

I've been depressed this week and haven't taken the time to properly look into this one, so this is more of a conversation starter. As I understand it, NG does some helpful recordkeeping type stuff, and they also developed what would become the site's official dark theme (hence all the hamfisted darkness references). It seems well written, if a little thin, but I'm looking for input from others on whether it's a worthy target.

That sucks big time! I'm sorry you have to go through that too.

Sylh Alanor wrote:

It reads very similarly to Free Joy State; an attempt to appease a member of site staff for work they mostly did as staff (which isn't legal). It's padded and the author tries to be sneaky about it, but it's pretty obvious to me. I'm leaning against.

I'm rather unimpressed with this aspect of the commendation (especially the overuse of the word dark, like one or two references would be fine [see: All Star references in Commend Singapore no2 {totally not a self promo}] but this is way too much). Okay, they made dark theme. Good for them. But the rules say it's not commendable, so that shouldn't be taken into consideration. HOWEVER I feel that Northrop-Grumman's RP contributions are quite impressive, even if I feel more content should had been included. So I'll be leaning for this.

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Junitaki-Cho, Ongmonnif

Hey everyone!

While answering some issues I misclicked and made polygamy legal. Is there any way to reverse laws, like if some decisions changed the laws in that way?

Thanks in advance!

Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Michelland, Junitaki-Cho, Ongmonnif, Inversa

Alpernei wrote:Hey everyone!

While answering some issues I misclicked and made polygamy legal. Is there any way to reverse laws, like if some decisions changed the laws in that way?

Thanks in advance!

For sure!! Alas these are often just random issues that will add or remove policies, so you’ll probably have to wait for the right issue to remove it however

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Junitaki-Cho, Ongmonnif, Inversa, Alpernei, Nerdy Tangent

Alpernei wrote:Hey everyone!

While answering some issues I misclicked and made polygamy legal. Is there any way to reverse laws, like if some decisions changed the laws in that way?

Thanks in advance!

If you want to stop this from happening again in the future, go to your settings, and check "require confirmation before passing legislation".

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Michelland, Junitaki-Cho, Inversa, Tovenia, Alpernei

Ongmonnif wrote:If you want to stop this from happening again in the future, go to your settings, and check "require confirmation before passing legislation".

Thank you so much!

Melenavenia, Michelland, Junitaki-Cho, Ongmonnif

Honeydewitopia wrote: (especially the overuse of the word dark, like one or two references would be fine... but this is way too much). Okay, they made dark theme. Good for them. But the rules say it's not commendable, so that shouldn't be taken into consideration.

I agree, and may have had a lot to say about it elsewhere lol. Needless to say, the amount of references to the word dark or shadowy is overbearing and takes a lot away, imo.

0 wrote:HOWEVER I feel that Northrop-Grumman's RP contributions are quite impressive, even if I feel more content should had been included. So I'll be leaning for this.

If they'd been included, I'd vote for them. As it stands, the text in my opinion isn't enough to warrant.

Lower French Gregballs, Melenavenia, Laisou, Inversa, Nerdy Tangent

Good evening!

Forest news: nothing. The election still hasn't started. Everyone can still submit photos to the contest. Saruman hasn't tried to destroy the region.

Lower French Gregballs, Melenavenia, Laisou, Ongmonnif, Inversa

Dose anyone know how to change my policy on climate and environment cuz my nations climate is terrible and well i want to be a sustainable country please help

Lower French Gregballs, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Laisou

Darths and Droids is ranked 93rd in the world and 1st in Refugia for Most Inclusive, scoring 718.19 on the Mandela-Wollstonecraft Non-Discrimination Index.

Alpernei wrote:Hey everyone!

While answering some issues I misclicked and made polygamy legal. Is there any way to reverse laws, like if some decisions changed the laws in that way?

Thanks in advance!

Yes, you do it with issues. It may take a day or a week, but eventually an issue will come along that will allow you to reverse your prior instance. This has helped me more than once when I keep accidentally installing space programs to get rid of my trash. I haven't gotten that particular issue in a while though.

The United Oceanian Isles wrote:Dose anyone know how to change my policy on climate and environment cuz my nations climate is terrible and well i want to be a sustainable country please help

You'll need to pick pro-environment options in your issues. It will take time but eventually you will have a good climate and have reasonable sustainability. Now, if you're mini-maxing like me, such things will never be enough. It's impossible to stay at "balanced" levels without sacrificing significant progress in one arena or another.

Lower French Gregballs, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Laisou, Ongmonnif, Inversa

Thank you

Melenavenia, Laisou, Ongmonnif, Inversa

Welcome Dictator Anna 10, Okao, Cat Grills, Thacha, Golden Gateway, Mapleee, Brioche D Cronch, Nintentopia, and The United Oceanian Isles to Refugia! If you have any questions about the region or how NationStates works feel free to leave it here on the RMB! You can also join our Discord server found at the top of the page within our region description. We're all friendly and don't bite!

If you haven't already, consider joining the World Assembly (located on the left sidebar) which will allow you to become a Member State! Member States are able to get a spot on our map (link in the region's description), vote in regional polls, and even run for office when elections come up! If you're not interested in that, that's completely fine! We're a chill laid back community and we aim to make everyone's experience here as wonderful as possible.

Sylh Alanor, Indimu, Bellerre, Ongmonnif, Inversa, Of Your Mom, Nerdy Tangent, Brioche D Cronch

After a year of playing NationStates I finally decided to begin drafting a "Constitution" for my nation. Once it is finished I'll pretend it was always there. Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions about writing one in general? https://www.nationstates.net/nation=melenavenia/detail=factbook/id=1488935

Lower French Gregballs, Elenaraghaenaris, Indimu, Laisou, Ongmonnif, Tovenia

Honeydewitopia wrote:I'm rather unimpressed with this aspect of the commendation (especially the overuse of the word dark, like one or two references would be fine [see: All Star references in Commend Singapore no2 {totally not a self promo}] but this is way too much). Okay, they made dark theme. Good for them. But the rules say it's not commendable, so that shouldn't be taken into consideration. HOWEVER I feel that Northrop-Grumman's RP contributions are quite impressive, even if I feel more content should had been included. So I'll be leaning for this.

I would be less opposed to a proposal that focused exclusively on RP elements, but the tone of this resolution reads to me as a gotcha for mod rules. Desperately trying to sidestep the 3(a) rule that you cannot get credit for work done as site staff because the author is opposed to the concept that creating an official browser theme is acting as site staff. That doesn't make much sense to me in any possible IC interpretation I can imagine.

Anyway, instead the author uses threads from Factbooks and National Information as arguments for commendation, while struggling to understand the difference between nations, nation's, and nations'. I cannot recall the last time forum factbook threads were used as commendation arguments, and I'm certain I've never seen an entire proposal based around them. I'm not at all sure if such a thing is even commendable. While the data compilation does go across years of time, it only feature nations that speak up, it doesn't provide accurate updates of changes like a data dump script would, and the entirety of the content is provided by other people. So, for sure, it's just an RP outlet for nations less than 250MM pop.

0 wrote:Confident that in light (or as the case may be, darkness)

Eww...

Anyway, yeah, I'm not seeing it. Voting against.

Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Junitaki-Cho, Laisou, Ongmonnif

Notice:

Heya folks, here to announce the winners of the Winter Flag Contest through this top tier instant run-off voting.

[spoiler=Voting!]

0 wrote:

Round 1:

A C B D F E

A E F C B D

A F B D E C

A F E C D B

B E A C D F

B E C A F D

C A F E B D

C E B A D F

D F B E A C

E A C F B D

E C A F B D

E c B A F D

E F A C D B

F A B C E D

F A E B C D

F D B A E C

F E A D B C

Option D received only one first-preference vote. It is eliminated and instances of it will be deleted and substituted with the voters' next preference.

0 wrote:

Round 2:

A C B F E

A E F C B

A F B E C

A F E C B

B E A C F

B E C A F

C A F E B

C E B A F

F B E A C

E A C F B

E C A F B

E C B A F

E F A C B

F A B C E

F A E B C

F B A E C

F E A B C

Options B and C are both eliminated as a result of tying for fewest number of top preference votes in this round.

0 wrote:

Round 3:

A F E

A E F

A F E

A F E

E A F

E A F

A F E

E A F

F E A

E A F

E A F

E A F

E F A

F A E

F A E

F A E

F E A

Options A and F are both tied for second place at 5 votes. For the sake of convenience we will call A the winner of second place for having nine votes in second-preference this round, versus F's 5.

[/spoiler]

As a result, the winner of the flag competition is Junitaki-Cho for receiving 7 first preference votes! Hooray!

Second place is taken by Chatula's entry \o/ Yay \o/

The third place winner is Melenavenia, whose flag we will begin flying immediately until the 17th of this month!

Congratulations to all. Their flags will be immortalised in the Winter Flag Competition dispatch with a note for flag credit added to the WFE as long as they are flown.

Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Free Las Pinas Ii, Junitaki-Cho, Chatula, Laisou, Ongmonnif, Nerdy Tangent

The United Oceanian Isles wrote:Dose anyone know how to change my policy on climate and environment cuz my nations climate is terrible and well i want to be a sustainable country please help

You just have to wait for issues and change your nation's policy over time.

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Michelland, Laisou, Ongmonnif

Alpernei wrote:Hey everyone!

While answering some issues I misclicked and made polygamy legal. Is there any way to reverse laws, like if some decisions changed the laws in that way?

Thanks in advance!

The answer is a bit more complex than what others said above. First, it may take some time. And Second, while you will (most likely) eventually get an issue allowing you to ban polygamy, such a ban might also have other unwanted consequences. This game is devised as a Challenge, and you usally chose the least evil of bad options (unless you choose Dismiss, which, in my opinion, goes against the spiritg of the game, but sometimes you just have no choice).

Refuge Isle wrote:Notice:

Heya folks, here to announce the winners of the Winter Flag Contest through this top tier instant run-off voting.

As a result, the winner of the flag competition is Junitaki-Cho for receiving 7 first preference votes! Hooray!

Second place is taken by Chatula's entry \o/ Yay \o/

The third place winner is Melenavenia, whose flag we will begin flying immediately until the 17th of this month!

Congratulations! I personally liked Chatula's entry a lot, and am glad it won (even if only at 2nd place).

All flags were great, and I had a hard time chosing only five. I no longer remember exactly whom I voted for (except the one I mentioned above). In my belief, participation itself is its own reward. So, congratulations and a big thank you to everyone who participated!

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Michelland, Junitaki-Cho, Chatula, Laisou, Ongmonnif, Tovenia

Dictator Anna 10's flag is so pretty I'm going to melt.

Dictator Anna 10, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Junitaki-Cho, Chatula, Laisou, Ongmonnif

Hi refuge isle I'm setting up a "Mini alliance" endorse me if you want to join!! but no matter how bad my climate is I'm happy to be at refuge isles well I don't want to well end up at the rejected realms thanks

-the president

p.s check out my fact book

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The United Oceanian Isles

STORY EVENT!!!!

please vote:

Oceanian archaeologists have uncovered two huge ships!!! they seem to have Oceanian markings on it!!!

what should we do....

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The United Oceanian Isles

type A: We should explore the ship, it looks so... special

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The United Oceanian Isles

Type B: nothing is of value it useless!!!!

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The United Oceanian Isles

Type C: THIS COULD SOLVE ENVIROMENT ISSUES WITH EVERY NATION IN REFUGIA!!!!

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The United Oceanian Isles

Guys did you notice that there are ZOMBIES are there any here?

The United Oceanian Isles wrote:Hi refuge isle I'm setting up a "Mini alliance" endorse me if you want to join!! but no matter how bad my climate is I'm happy to be at refuge isles well I don't want to well end up at the rejected realms thanks

-the president

p.s check out my fact book

Please refrain from spamming the RMB. Your environment will never get you banned or kicked from Refugia, however, the abuse of the RMB can and will if it continues. The purpose of endorsements in a region is to increase the influence of the region itself (each endorsement given to a WA Delegate, ours being Sylh Alanor, will increase our region's voting power in the World Assembly) and to increase our individual influence stats.

Narwhal, Sylh Alanor, Elenaraghaenaris, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Laisou, Ongmonnif, Inversa, Nerdy Tangent

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The United Oceanian Isles

???

The United Oceanian Isles wrote:im sorry???

If you are please relegate things that could only be 1 message into 1 message. I understand having consecutive posts if nobody says something on the RMB an hour or so after you post something but minutes afterward is simply not acceptable.

Sylh Alanor, Elenaraghaenaris, Junitaki-Cho, Laisou, Ongmonnif, Inversa, Nerdy Tangent

Hi everyone!

I thought I'd ferry us toward election month with a bang. For my final embassy recommendation of my term as Councillor of Foreign Affairs, I'd like to submit 10000 Islands. They're established, they're stable, they often vote the same way we do on WA matters, all good things. But the most important part to me is that a lot of people from that sphere have moved into the Refugia chat and our region and have been wonderful friends to us.

Read the full text of my recommendation below, and don't forget to vote here: https://vote.calref.network/vote/9

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1489381

Refuge Isle, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Free Las Pinas Ii, Junitaki-Cho, Laisou, Ongmonnif, Tovenia, Nerdy Tangent

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The United Oceanian Isles

Melenavenia wrote:Please refrain from spamming the RMB. Your environment will never get you banned or kicked from Refugia, however, the abuse of the RMB can and will if it continues. The purpose of endorsements in a region is to increase the influence of the region itself (each endorsement given to a WA Delegate, ours being Sylh Alanor, will increase our region's voting power in the World Assembly) and to increase our individual influence stats.

Can you stop being toxic!!??!! I'm just talking. ONE OF THE ONLY REASONS I CAME TO REFUGIA IS FOR A PEACEFUL COMMUNITY AND NO SUPPRESSIVE RULES Just really Ill try to sort this out with the FOUNDER ok???

Sincerely: Oceania

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