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Pizza! Pizza! Whoa wantza piecza pizza?

Sylh Alanor, Floofybit, Polushia

Avatar Webby wrote:Pizza! Pizza! Whoa wantza piecza pizza?

I do! That one with mozzarella cheese and tomatoes and basil leaves, that's my favourite pizza. I don't remember the name lol.

Sylh Alanor, Avatar Webby

Minskievian Refugees wrote:-snip-

Against. I think this is pretty nitpicky. I went back and reread the target resolution and I think it's entirely reasonable. People seem to be focusing on this:

0 wrote:d. requires that LEOs:

i. avoid causing death or life-changing injury to any person unless the life or bodily sovereignty of any person (including the LEO in question) is, or likely would be, placed in immediate danger by that person, and

ii. ensure that people they have harmed under Article d(i) receive any basic first aid necessary for their survival,

But d(ii) doesn't contradict d(i). If someone is an immediate threat, and there's no option other than lethal force, then that's a moment that can't be avoided. If that threat is then disabled and injured, but not dead, the police officer should 100% aim to keep that person alive until they can receive proper medical attention. If the person is dead, then that's something that couldn't be avoided and d(ii) necessitates that no medical attention is needed.

The target resolution approaches the situation reasonably and fairly. There are plenty of caveats to show that the least-forceful approach to a situation should be taken, but fully allows a police officer to do their job. This original resolution isn't an "all cops are bastards" approach, it doesn't take away any ability or option for a police officer to do the work they've been tasked with in the current system. It's actually, I would argue, on the conservative side, arguing more in favour of responsible law enforcement than some radical overhaul.

I don't see a reason to be in favour of repealing that unless we're going to go for a more restrictive-toward-law-enforcement option. This is going in the other direction.

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta

how is everyone

Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Yondoria, Polushia

Sylh Alanor wrote:Against. I think this is pretty nitpicky. I went back and reread the target resolution and I think it's entirely reasonable. People seem to be focusing on this:

But d(ii) doesn't contradict d(i). If someone is an immediate threat, and there's no option other than lethal force, then that's a moment that can't be avoided. If that threat is then disabled and injured, but not dead, the police officer should 100% aim to keep that person alive until they can receive proper medical attention. If the person is dead, then that's something that couldn't be avoided and d(ii) necessitates that no medical attention is needed.

The target resolution approaches the situation reasonably and fairly. There are plenty of caveats to show that the least-forceful approach to a situation should be taken, but fully allows a police officer to do their job. This original resolution isn't an "all cops are bastards" approach, it doesn't take away any ability or option for a police officer to do the work they've been tasked with in the current system. It's actually, I would argue, on the conservative side, arguing more in favour of responsible law enforcement than some radical overhaul.

I don't see a reason to be in favour of repealing that unless we're going to go for a more restrictive-toward-law-enforcement option. This is going in the other direction.

There is no exemption for dead people under the d.ii mandate. Dead people are, however, very much included under "people [officers] have harmed under Article d(i)". If you want to challenge the resolution on the grounds of an Honest Mistake rules violation, that's your prerogative, but it will fail, because the arguments I present in the repeal are accurate.

Junitaki-Cho

Wallenburg wrote:There is no exemption for dead people under the d.ii mandate. Dead people are, however, very much included under "people [officers] have harmed under Article d(i)". If you want to challenge the resolution on the grounds of an Honest Mistake rules violation, that's your prerogative, but it will fail, because the arguments I present in the repeal are accurate.

I don't think it's an honest mistake, I think it's an unnecessary nitpick and one that we should all be able to agree is the result of a read so narrow as to be bordering on pedantic. d.i requires officers avoid causing death or life-changing injury to another person except in cases where that's a split-second decision to protect the life of someone else. d.ii requires the officers provide any basic first aid necessary for their survival. I would hope that anyone would read those words and understand that, if someone is dead, there is no basic first aid necessary for their survival, because they are already dead.

Could the wording have been better? Perhaps. But I think it's more than fine as it is.

Wallenburg, Typica, Araine, Tiralta

Porthosia wrote:I'm right-handed, it's great because the world is biased towards right-handed people
at least we left handers get to read left to right in some languages

Sylh Alanor wrote:I don't think it's an honest mistake, I think it's an unnecessary nitpick and one that we should all be able to agree is the result of a read so narrow as to be bordering on pedantic. d.i requires officers avoid causing death or life-changing injury to another person except in cases where that's a split-second decision to protect the life of someone else. d.ii requires the officers provide any basic first aid necessary for their survival. I would hope that anyone would read those words and understand that, if someone is dead, there is no basic first aid necessary for their survival, because they are already dead.

Could the wording have been better? Perhaps. But I think it's more than fine as it is.

Fair enough, that seems like a more colorable, although not particularly convincing, way of undoing the issue of universally criminalized homicides by LEOs. And since section 2 of my repeal is focused on issues of RP incompatibility, that's something that I wouldn't expect many people to care much about, so I could see how this would feel nitpicky to you.

Sylh Alanor, Araine, Junitaki-Cho

I would like to give my nation more of the Refugia branding and was wondering if i can use the image thing on all of Refugia’s dispatches

Floofybit, Portmanteau

Yondoria wrote:I would like to give my nation more of the Refugia branding and was wondering if i can use the image thing on all of Refugia’s dispatches

Anything in the Graphics Repository is something that I've made, and you're free to use except for the councillor letterhead.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1630320

Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Portmanteau, Yondoria, Polushia

Hello Tiralta, we would like to enter all of the competitions on the Olympics. Except tennis. We don't believe in tennis.

The Star Enpire, Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Tiralta

First of May, first of May

Seasonal changes are on their way

What's that thing you've been dying to know?

Ah yes, the report on the eco goals!

The bees are buzzing, the new lambs are here

(Don't worry, the end of this poem is near...)

We love the environment, we're going for gold

So please find the newest report below.

[url=]https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1698988

Chatula wrote:Hello Tiralta, we would like to enter all of the competitions on the Olympics. Except tennis. We don't believe in tennis.

I've added you to the list of participants! Chatula will not be required for any tennis events.

Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Dyllonia, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Portmanteau, Porthosia

Hey Tiralta, in contrast to Chatula, we would like to participate in all Olympic competitions. I have the highest hopes for our soccer/football team.

The Star Enpire, Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta

Melenavenia wrote:Hey Tiralta, in contrast to Chatula, we would like to participate in all Olympic competitions. I have the highest hopes for our soccer/football team.

You have been added to the list of participating nations, best of luck to your national athletes!

Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia

Tiralta wrote:Hello everyone! The 1st Refugi Olympics will take place this week, with prizes for the winners! Simply quote this post or send me a telegram to let me know if you'd like to take part.

Details on the sports available, prizes, and how the winners will be decided can be found below.

[url=https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1698688]

The Star Enpire would like to take part in swimming, gymnastics, soccer, and tennis.

Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Tiralta

Hey Tiralta! After our bimonthly meeting, Floofybit has decided to enter into every competition except weight lifting. While a variety of sports have been partaken near the warm beach in Floofybit's National Athletics Program, weightlifting has never been a major sport. FNAP consists of sports that give athletes a smaller, flexible stature for speed so athletes do not spend as much time on strength as they would speed. We would like to wish good luck to the competitors of swimming. Floofybit has been known for their swimming on the world level (you know, the beaches and the ocean) so it should be fun to watch this. The world team trials have always been a fun watch for Floofybit so I'll put the results of the Olympic trials after the trials are over. Thanks so much for the opportunity!

Happy May

The Star Enpire, Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Liphia, Tiralta, Porthosia

Hello Tiralta. My nation would like very much to participate in the Refugia Olympics. We will participate in every sport and we will hope to win!

The Star Enpire, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Tiralta, Porthosia

Hello Tiralta, The Integral Porthosian Board of Intense Sporting Events has decided that we would love to participate in all Refugia Olympic sports! And, to all other nations participating, good luck!

The Star Enpire, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Tiralta, Polushia

Hello Tiralta, you're a dork and wonderful eco-report eco-dork ^_^

Dyllonia's athletes are shaking their fists to the sky since it isn't winter yet and they can't play hockey, but teams will be competing for the second best things: soccer and tennis! Dyllonia expects to be victorious in all competitions, even though we only entered for two. Happy sportsballs!

The Star Enpire, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Tiralta, Polushia, Porthosia

Tiralta, lovely eco-report! Refuge Isle will participate in every Olympic event except for weightlifting, thanks :D

The Star Enpire, Chacapoya, Dyllonia, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Tiralta, Polushia, Porthosia

Hi Tiralta, we would love to participate in the Olympics and have athletes in peak condition and ready to compete in all events please.

The Star Enpire, Dyllonia, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Tiralta, Polushia, Porthosia

Refuge Isle wrote:Anything in the Graphics Repository is something that I've made, and you're free to use except for the councillor letterhead.

Lovely dispatch, with all of the imagery in one place. I'd been curious who was responsible for the excellent graphics I was seeing coming out of this region. The travel runes, especially, I'm quite fond of, both in their appearance but also as a concept. They're how I first became aware of this place.

Chatula wrote:Except tennis. We don't believe in tennis.

You best start believing in tennis matches, Chatula...you're in one!

*softly serves a tennis ball to you*

Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Tiralta, Polushia

Floofybit The Star Enpire Polushia Porthosia Dyllonia Refuge Isle Tovenia

All noted, we look forward to meeting your athletes at the Games!

Chacapoya, Dyllonia, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Polushia, Porthosia

The Alanori would be happy to participate in the swimming, soccer, tennis, and marathon events at the upcoming Refugi Olympics!

Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Tiralta, Polushia, Porthosia

Sylh Alanor wrote:The Alanori would be happy to participate in the swimming, soccer, tennis, and marathon events at the upcoming Refugi Olympics!

Added! :D

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Polushia, Porthosia

Tiralta, Hoqeallistan would be happy to participate in all events in the refugi olympics too

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Tiralta, Polushia, Porthosia

Hoqeallistan wrote:Tiralta, Hoqeallistan would be happy to participate in all events in the refugi olympics too

Yay! You've been added!

Cheesy Tots, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Hoqeallistan, Porthosia

Tiralta Liphia would like to participate in all events in the olympics!

Chacapoya, Araine, Floofybit, Inaros Opa, Tiralta

Liphia wrote:Tiralta Liphia would like to participate in all events in the olympics!

Same for Inaros OPA.

Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Tiralta

Looks like we started a whole plethora of olympic applications. Truly trend setters.

Portmanteau wrote:

You best start believing in tennis matches, Chatula...you're in one!

*softly serves a tennis ball to you*

stands aside and watched the ball bounce past

Aside from attempts to begin imaginary ball games, we have news! The East Pacific has once again produced a foreign update. Consider yourselves updated.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1699001

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Polushia

Chatula wrote:Looks like we started a whole plethora of olympic applications. Truly trend setters.

stands aside and watched the ball bounce past

Aside from attempts to begin imaginary ball games, we have news! The East Pacific has once again produced a foreign update. Consider yourselves updated.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1699001

This was pure comedy and I am still laughing

Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Floofybit, Liphia, Tiralta

Tiralta wrote:Hello everyone! The 1st Refugi Olympics will take place this week, with prizes for the winners! Simply quote this post or send me a telegram to let me know if you'd like to take part.

Chacapoya will send a full delegation of our finest human (and human adjacent) athletes to compete in the swimming, marathon, athletics, weightlifting, and gymnastics categories.

Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Tiralta, Porthosia

Hello Refugia! It's time for a World Assembly discussion post. This one is on Repeal "Condemn the Black Hawks".

Repeal "Condemn TBH" is a repeal with two focuses. One, the target is written abysmally. Like, go look at it. It barely makes any sense. The second focus is a part of a wider defender-aligned political campaign to lessen the SC recognition and power of raiders and raider organizations due to their disregard for regional communities and FA goodwill.

I will always support repealing SC#52. It's just written awfully. The repeal makes good note of this, arguing against all the weak arguments in the target like how TBH drafted a self-commend isn't condemnable or how TBH didn't "permanently exert control" over "hundreds of regions" but rather changed the appearance of these regions. There is also no great argument for historical significance, because repealing a proposal does not completely erase it. Finally, Refugia, while abstaining from R/D, has historically been favorable towards defender efforts in the SC. I see no reason why not to support this Refugi-authored proposal.

What are your thoughts?

Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Tiralta, Daesonsemon

Minskievian Refugees wrote:Hello Refugia! It's time for a World Assembly discussion post. This one is on Repeal "Condemn the Black Hawks".

Repeal "Condemn TBH" is a repeal with two focuses. One, the target is written abysmally. Like, go look at it. It barely makes any sense. The second focus is a part of a wider defender-aligned political campaign to lessen the SC recognition and power of raiders and raider organizations due to their disregard for regional communities and FA goodwill.

I will always support repealing SC#52. It's just written awfully. The repeal makes good note of this, arguing against all the weak arguments in the target like how TBH drafted a self-commend isn't condemnable or how TBH didn't "permanently exert control" over "hundreds of regions" but rather changed the appearance of these regions. There is also no great argument for historical significance, because repealing a proposal does not completely erase it. Finally, Refugia, while abstaining from R/D, has historically been favorable towards defender efforts in the SC. I see no reason why not to support this Refugi-authored proposal.

What are your thoughts?

Unequivocally for.

Chacapoya, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Tiralta, Daesonsemon

Minskievian Refugees wrote:Hello Refugia! It's time for a World Assembly discussion post. This one is on Repeal "Condemn the Black Hawks".

Repeal "Condemn TBH" is a repeal with two focuses. One, the target is written abysmally. Like, go look at it. It barely makes any sense. The second focus is a part of a wider defender-aligned political campaign to lessen the SC recognition and power of raiders and raider organizations due to their disregard for regional communities and FA goodwill.

I will always support repealing SC#52. It's just written awfully. The repeal makes good note of this, arguing against all the weak arguments in the target like how TBH drafted a self-commend isn't condemnable or how TBH didn't "permanently exert control" over "hundreds of regions" but rather changed the appearance of these regions. There is also no great argument for historical significance, because repealing a proposal does not completely erase it. Finally, Refugia, while abstaining from R/D, has historically been favorable towards defender efforts in the SC. I see no reason why not to support this Refugi-authored proposal.

What are your thoughts?

Definitely for. I gave SC#52 a couple of read-throughs, and almost all of what I could gather seemed to be stuff that could be better aimed at a proposal involving directly reinforcing fairness in the Security Council, as opposed to what the author ended up proposing.

Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Tiralta

I'm against, to probably no ones surprise, but I think its for more solid reasons than bias that I'll expand on right quick to give the other side of this.

Minskievian Refugees wrote:There is also no great argument for historical significance, because repealing a proposal does not completely erase it.

I think that while repealing older passed WA legislation doesn't erase it completely, its still a historical resolution that is still in effect, which is what makes that part of it interesting. "It was written" means nothing compared to "it was passed 11 years ago and is still in effect."

Minskievian Refugees wrote:One, the target is written abysmally. Like, go look at it. It barely makes any sense.

I feel like this makes sense, but also I think that a whole lot of older WA resolutions generally aren't written the best or wouldn't make sense in today's SC. If we wanted to repeal one old resolution just because it has bad writing, it seems weird to keep others that have the same problem.

Minskievian Refugees wrote:Finally, Refugia, while abstaining from R/D, has historically been favorable towards defender efforts in the SC. I see no reason why not to support this Refugi-authored proposal.

I feel like its dangerous to support a side of a proposal for this reason as it gives the impression that Refugia does favor a side and might start a trend of giving support for something for that reason. This one's kind of unrelated, but I still feel is somewhat necessary to mention.

Minskievian Refugees wrote:What are your thoughts?

I understand why people would want this passed, but just generally, I think it's an important historical resolution that's stuck around for a reason. It's old and its vague, but I think it makes sense that it stands as a resolution that condemns raiding and its actions in a broader sense than the later resolution or that any rewrites or other raiding condemnations could do.

Chacapoya, Dyllonia, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Tiralta, Daesonsemon

Lethodus wrote:I feel like its dangerous to support a side of a proposal for this reason as it gives the impression that Refugia does favor a side and might start a trend of giving support for something for that reason. This one's kind of unrelated, but I still feel is somewhat necessary to mention.

While I'm in favour of the repeal (it could be replaced with a better-written version in the future), I agree entirely with this. I think it's irresponsible to say our region generally votes favourably toward one side or the other, and I disagree with the statement entirely.

I vote based on supporting Refugi authors and writing quality. This repeal draft has both of those things. I don't vote based on supporting raiders or defenders, because I am neither.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Lethodus, Dyllonia, Typica, Refuge Isle, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Dacay, Tiralta, Duneraven, Daesonsemon

Tiralta wrote:Hello everyone! The 1st Refugi Olympics will take place this week, with prizes for the winners!

Hi Tiralta, the athletes of Typica would also like to participate in these inaugural activities!

Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Tiralta, Polushia

Tiralta wrote:Hello everyone! The 1st Refugi Olympics will take place this week, with prizes for the winners! Simply quote this post or send me a telegram to let me know if you'd like to take part.

Details on the sports available, prizes, and how the winners will be decided can be found below.

[url=https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1698688]

Minkyiv will participate in every event, thanks for organising.

Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Tiralta, Polushia

Liphia Inaros OpaChacapoya Typica Minkyiv

We will see you at the Games!

We have 23 nations now lined up to take part in the First Refugi Olympics, and just under 24 hours to get your submission in.

All nations residing in Refugia are welcome to take part in as many sports as they would like for the chance to win a card.

[url=https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1698688]

Chacapoya, Typica, Refuge Isle, Araine, Nekhuser-Ra, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Polushia

Minskievian Refugees wrote:Hello Refugia! It's time for a World Assembly discussion post. This one is on Repeal "Condemn the Black Hawks".

Repeal "Condemn TBH" is a repeal with two focuses. One, the target is written abysmally. Like, go look at it. It barely makes any sense. The second focus is a part of a wider defender-aligned political campaign to lessen the SC recognition and power of raiders and raider organizations due to their disregard for regional communities and FA goodwill.

I will always support repealing SC#52. It's just written awfully. The repeal makes good note of this, arguing against all the weak arguments in the target like how TBH drafted a self-commend isn't condemnable or how TBH didn't "permanently exert control" over "hundreds of regions" but rather changed the appearance of these regions. There is also no great argument for historical significance, because repealing a proposal does not completely erase it.

I don’t really like repealing old SC resolutions. My thoughts on old SC resolutions are that they’re essentially time capsules which showcases just how different the game was a decade or half a decade ago. It’s interesting to look back at the archives and see all these interesting players get recognized for their work, which may or may not be Commendable today. It’s honestly an amazing piece of history that gets besmirched if we end up repealing it for arbitrary quality concerns. Obviously, the question is if we start repealing all these old resolutions for not being well-written enough, where do we exactly stop? The answer is, we really don’t know. At some point, this gets too ridiculous for us to handle.

Opposed, despite the target resolution featuring some truly awful writing. If someone’s going to repeal it, they would need to come with a replacement at hand to make me consider voting for it.

Minskievian Refugees wrote:Finally, Refugia, while abstaining from R/D, has historically been favorable towards defender efforts in the SC.

I’m not sure I agree with this here.

Refugia, as I’ve observed, has kept the politics that goes behind almost every SC resolution-at-vote outside and solely focused on the quality of those resolutions instead. It’s one of those wonderful aspects that attracted me to here, and I’m proud to say that we’ve managed to keep up our apolitical, non-biased way of judging C/Cs, despite featuring an unusual number of R/Ders involved in our community. So to say that we’re historically favorable to defender interests in the SC is…odd, to say the least.

Chacapoya, Lethodus, Typica, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Duneraven, Daesonsemon

I just chose my leader, "Robert"! ALL HAIL ROBERT!!!

He will be watching the Refugi Olympics in the first seat!

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Floofybit, Liphia, Tiralta, Porthosia

Dacay wrote:I don’t really like repealing old SC resolutions. My thoughts on old SC resolutions are that they’re essentially time capsules which showcases just how different the game was a decade or half a decade ago. It’s interesting to look back at the archives and see all these interesting players get recognized for their work, which may or may not be Commendable today. It’s honestly an amazing piece of history that gets besmirched if we end up repealing it for arbitrary quality concerns. Obviously, the question is if we start repealing all these old resolutions for not being well-written enough, where do we exactly stop? The answer is, we really don’t know. At some point, this gets too ridiculous for us to handle.

Opposed, despite the target resolution featuring some truly awful writing. If someone’s going to repeal it, they would need to come with a replacement at hand to make me consider voting for it.

I don't see this as arbitrary quality concerns, or at least not purely arbitrary. Some of the points against the resolution were made in the target's own thread. Like others have said, proposals around it were superior in quality. It barely passed vote. It lists one singular condemnable action. Those would normally be signs of a universally-understood horrid proposal, but for unknowable reasons all repeals since then have failed.

And while the history may be besmirched, its still there. Struck out maybe, harder to get sure, but still quite easily findable via the WA page, the SC passed threads, or by mention in SC # 271.

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine

Polushia wrote:I just chose my leader, "Robert"! ALL HAIL ROBERT!!!

He will be watching the Refugi Olympics in the first seat!

The (yet to be named) Leader of Porthosia sends his greatest greetings to Robert!

Floofybit, Polushia

New poll is up - if you can think of an actual use for any of these items, I'd love to hear it.

Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Porthosia

I agree with Sylh Alanor that most of the arguments in the Repeal LEO are nitpicking. Even if there are some valid arguments, it is overall a badly-written Repeal. Sometimes adding arguments decreasese the credibility pf the whole proposal. I believe this is the case here and am voting Against.

On another matter:

Tiralta, The Delta Vegan athletes would like to participate in the following sports:

Swimming, Gymnastics, Soccer, and Athletics

Thanks!

Also, in case anyone here is celebrating it: 'Eid sa'id, and Kulei'am W'antum B'kheir [Rough translation: Happy Holiday, may everyone and you be happy].

EDIT:

I voted in the Poll for my NS name on piece of paper. If by any chance I'm suddenly rescued, or discover a means to connect to the Internet for at least 15 minutes, this may come in handy.

Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Tiralta, Polushia, Porthosia

Might I ask what events are in the Refugia Olympics?

Polushia, Porthosia

Remnants Of The Pacific wrote:Might I ask what events are in the Refugia Olympics?

We have 8 sporting events for Refugi athletes to compete in: swimming, gymnastics, soccer, tennis, athletics, volleyball, weightlifting and the marathon. Nations may enter as many of these events as they'd like for a chance to win!

Just a clarification as I've had a question telegrammed: this is essentially a card raffle with a bit of a fun scenario added to it - you don't have to be prepared to RP to join in, but if you like RP then I'm super happy to add commentary, bulletins and the like into the Olympics bulletin!

For this event, I wanted to put together something that everyone can jump into at short notice regardless of how new they are, or what's going on in real life so nothing is required beyond just submitting your name.

More RP-heavy and competitive events will be coming before the end of this term :)

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Polushia, Porthosia

Lethodus wrote:I'm against, to probably no ones surprise, but I think its for more solid reasons than bias that I'll expand on right quick to give the other side of this.

I think that while repealing older passed WA legislation doesn't erase it completely, its still a historical resolution that is still in effect, which is what makes that part of it interesting. "It was written" means nothing compared to "it was passed 11 years ago and is still in effect."

I feel like this makes sense, but also I think that a whole lot of older WA resolutions generally aren't written the best or wouldn't make sense in today's SC. If we wanted to repeal one old resolution just because it has bad writing, it seems weird to keep others that have the same problem.

I feel like its dangerous to support a side of a proposal for this reason as it gives the impression that Refugia does favor a side and might start a trend of giving support for something for that reason. This one's kind of unrelated, but I still feel is somewhat necessary to mention.

I understand why people would want this passed, but just generally, I think it's an important historical resolution that's stuck around for a reason. It's old and its vague, but I think it makes sense that it stands as a resolution that condemns raiding and its actions in a broader sense than the later resolution or that any rewrites or other raiding condemnations could do.

My thoughts exactly. Very much against. I dislike the notion of Refugia supporting a side in R/D politics, we are a neutral region, and this proposal seems uneutral, especially now.

The “second focus” Minsk highlighted makes me more concerned for Refugia’s vote, as it’s clear that it’s largely a political move. The condemn already held up for so long, if it was to be repealed for being poorly written it would have happened long ago, or better yet have been defeated when it was on the floor. Just my thoughts.

Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia

Tiralta wrote:New poll is up - if you can think of an actual use for any of these items, I'd love to hear it.

I'll say the key because of all the items, it seems least likely to become lost or destroyed. Also I can imagine it being useful in food preparation, assuming nothing more useful is available.

Delta Vega Iv, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Tiralta, Polushia, Porthosia

Tiralta, the athletes of Daesonsemon would like to participate in all 8 events in the Refugia Olympics

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Tiralta, Pangeodrea, Polushia, Porthosia

Small Brother, who rules Delta Vega IV, doesn't smoke (or eat, or breathe - he's an AI).

So, when an issue concerning Marijuana came up, he naturally assembled a committee of various health, social and political experts in human behavior, to examine the pros and cons.

As a result, the ages-long ban on this specific drug has been lifted. However, the government will sponsor Educational initiatives to promote awareness to the dangers of excessive smoking.

Delta Vega IV also decided to shut down all street lights at night, to avoid light pollution and protect animal creatures who require darkness at night to function properly. This improves our environmental stats a bit.

Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Aephony, Tiralta, Polushia, Porthosia

Tiralta Honeydewistania would like to enter in the categories of Tennis and Football

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Aephony, Tiralta, Pangeodrea, Polushia

Tiralta

The Kingdom of Pangeodrea would like to participate in all 8 events.

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Tiralta, Polushia

Tiralta The Republic of the Remnants of the Pacific would like to enter its glorious champions in all 8 events to show who has the best champions! Vive la Pacifica!

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Tiralta, Pangeodrea, Polushia

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Pangeodrea, Polushia

Dyllonia wrote:The “second focus” Minsk highlighted makes me more concerned for Refugia’s vote, as it’s clear that it’s largely a political move.

Don't worry about that. Minsk was stating his opinion to start the conversation. My reasons for my vote are going to be their own unless someone convinces me of a quality issue or argument I hadn't noticed.

We're been accused of favouring raiders when we've voted in favour of "raider-aligned" resolutions and vice-versa. A portion of the site can't understand that, despite our position of not being aligned either way, the Security Council is very politically charged and any vote we make- no matter the reason for that vote- is going to be against someone's interests. As long as we keep true to our reasonings, though, we'll be okay.

I'll be accused of being a defender shill when I vote for the repeal, and I'll be accused of being a raider shill when I vote for a good replacement some day in the future :P such is life.

Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Dyllonia, Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Dacay

Lethodus wrote:I feel like its dangerous to support a side of a proposal for this reason as it gives the impression that Refugia does favor a side and might start a trend of giving support for something for that reason. This one's kind of unrelated, but I still feel is somewhat necessary to mention.

Dyllonia wrote:My thoughts exactly. Very much against. I dislike the notion of Refugia supporting a side in R/D politics, we are a neutral region, and this proposal seems uneutral, especially now.

Alright, you guys know I love you both, but I'm really not okay with this

Refugia may be an r/d neutral region, but this doesn't censor us or tie our hands when it comes to World Assembly issues, just like it would not tied any other neutral RP region from voting when it comes to their issues. I do not support a desire or expectation that Refugia abstain when an r/d topic comes up in the SC because the SC is an inherently political institution that is tied to Gameplay.

Many proposals therefore have some level of r/d mention or involvement or sometimes the proposal is entirely about r/d, that's the nature of the beast, and every politically active region on NationStates votes on those issues when the come up. An author attempting to appeal to minor delegates and the popular vote (the vast vast majority of whom are outside r/d or "neutral") is a vital component of getting any proposal passed.

In the past, we have never shied away from a vote and have always rejected any calls for us to do so as an infringement on our sovereignty. If anyone doubts this, they should absolutely consult our 2019-2020 voting record and our 2021-2022 voting record wherein they will find votes on these r/d issues, some of which were blatantly pro-raider or pro-defender. Some of which were on the exact target resolution as the current vote. Some of which were the subject of deep factional divides or conspiracies.

[list][*] Delegate Refuge Isle

[list]

[*] Commend Severisen, For and Passed

[*] Condemn Darkesia, For and Passed

[*] Condemn The Land of Kings and Emperors, Against and Defeated

[*] Condemn Durkadurkiranistan II, For and Passed

[*] Commend The Rejected Realms, For and Defeated

[*] Condemn Kyrusia, Against and Defeated

[*] Repeal "Condemn The Black Hawks", Against and Defeated

[*] Condemn Atlantic, For and Passed

[*] Commend Duxburian Union, For and Passed

[*] Commend Markanite, For and Passed

[*] Commend Benevolent Thomas, For and Passed

[/list]

[/list]

[list][*] Delegate Sylh Alanor

[list]

[*]Commend Crushing Our Enemies, Against and Passed

[*]Condemn Gatesville Inc, Against and Passed

[*]Commend Crushing Our Enemies, For and Passed

[*]Repeal "Condemn Vandoosa", Against and Defeated

[*]Comend Vipertooth33, For and Passed

[*]Repeal "Commend Evil Wolf", Against and Defeated

[*]Repeal "Commend Kuriko", For and Passed

[*]Liberate Syria, Against and Passed

[*]Condemn Ever-Wandering Souls, For and Passed

[*]Condemn Raionitu, Against and Passed

[*]Commend Kuriko, For and Passed

[*]Commend Twobagger, Against and Defeated

[*]Commend King HEM, For and Passed

[*]Liberate The Embassy, For and Passed

[*]Condemn Lily, Against and Defeated

[*]Repeal "Liberate The Embassy", For and Passed

[*]Commend Roavin, Against and Passed

[*]Condemn Minineenee, For and Passed

[*]Condemn Scardino, Against and Defeated

[*]Commend Deadeye Jack, For and Passed

[*]Commend Altmoras, For and Passed

[*]Commend HumanSanity, For and Passed

[*]Commend Imkiville, For and Passed

[*]Commend Pope Hope, For and Passed

[*]Against Quorum Raiding, Against and Defeated

[*]Liberate New Western Atlantic, For and Passed

[*]Commend LadyRebels, Against and Defeated

[*]Commend Mount Seymour, For and Passed

[*]Liberate A Liberal Haven, For and Passed

[*]Declaration on China, Against and Defeated

[*]Commend Karputsk, For and Passed

[*]Commend Kyorgia, Against and Defeated

[*]Liberate Ukraine, Against and Defeated

[*]Condemn Suspicious, Against and Defeated

[*]Liberate The Mystical Council, Against and Passed

[*]On Raider Unity, Against and Defeated

[*]Commend Shizensky Prime, Against and Defeated

[*]Liberate EmbassyRegionia, Against and Defeated

[list]

[/list][/list][/list]

In the above list, there is every instance and frequently occurring instances of commends and condemns submitted by raiders and defenders, targeting raiders and defenders, trying to accomplish things in the raider or defender agenda. Throughout every one of these resolutions, we decided our vote based on, as Sylh Alanor said, the quality of the proposal and with whether or not the author/co-author was a Refugi being a factor. Hopefully it is abundantly clear that we have never shied away from an SC vote or abided any expectations of silence out of fear of a perceived bias.

Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Vikoland, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Bobesville-Sholstine

When do the games start

Floofybit

Yondoria wrote:When do the games start

Submissions close at the major update (00:00 EST).

If anyone would like to watch the results, I am happy to livestream the draw for the winners in the Discord tomorrow at 9.30pm UTC, however I will also do a screen record and upload it somewhere where everyone can watch at a time that suits them.

Araine, Floofybit

Hello

Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Tiralta, Porthosia, Bobesville-Sholstine, Tryio

Hi. Nice to meet everyone.

Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Tiralta, Porthosia, Birds With Tea

Welcome new friends!

Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Tiralta, Porthosia, Bobesville-Sholstine, Tryio, Crawnaft

Hello and welcome to Refugia!

Btw Birds With Tea I love your nation name

Sylh Alanor, Floofybit, Liphia, Tiralta, Polushia, Porthosia, Tryio

Thanks

Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Tiralta, Porthosia, Tryio

Birds With Tea wrote:Thanks

Now if only we could get those fishes to drink some tea, we could all do great things

Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Tiralta, Tryio, Birds With Tea

Hi! I started playing this game today.

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, St Leone, Tiralta, Azelandia, Porthosia, Tryio, Ceasthasi

Karg Eas wrote:Hi! I started playing this game today.

Hi! Welcome ^-^

Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, St Leone, Tiralta, Tryio, Karg Eas

I finally got a new flag:D

Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Pangeodrea, Polushia

From the poll, I can mention one use for all of these.

Piece of Aluminium: If you find a microwave somehow, that is somehow fully plugged in, you can always cause an explosion, for some reason.

It's either that or food.

Leaf: Food

Paper with username: Food

Key: Weapon

EDIT: It's the key.

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Polushia

Post self-deleted by Aephony.

Tiralta I'd love to participate in every event please!

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, The Great Elven Kingdom

Honeydewistania's Tennis Pair: Nicole Szalai and Amy Mathers-Warren.

Honeydewistania is sending these two to the May 2022 Refugi Olympics. They are #1 and #3 on the national tennis rankings respectively. Szalai, the daughter of a Hungarian father and a Honeydewistanian mother, shot up the ranks in the last few years, winning the Honeydewopolis Tennis Open and the Cantalopia Lawn Open. She is the success story in the eyes of the many not-so-well-off Honeydewistanians, by rising from a humble background to the top of Honeydewistanian tennis. Mathers-Warren, on the other hand, is a completely different story. The daughter of former Honeydewistanian dictator Louisa Mathers, she was raised in a sheltered home in the Saint Tomas and Northern Ice Islands, receiving training from very distinguished coaches. In spite of this, she has been frequently criticised for her numerous fumbles during matches and is considered an unreliable partner. There have been allegations that her high status is due to match fixing and bribery, mostly due to her mother, but she has maintained that she has earned her spot and has shown brief flashes of immense potential.

The Honeydewistanian #2 and former #1, Jessica Politano, dropped out of the competition due to a broken ankle a few days before official selections began. Rumours have it that this is yet another action conducted by Louisa Mathers to get her daughter to the Olympics, but Ms Politano has refused to confirm or deny this.

Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Portmanteau, Tiralta

Dyllonia wrote:My thoughts exactly. Very much against. I dislike the notion of Refugia supporting a side in R/D politics, we are a neutral region, and this proposal seems uneutral, especially now.

The “second focus” Minsk highlighted makes me more concerned for Refugia’s vote, as it’s clear that it’s largely a political move. The condemn already held up for so long, if it was to be repealed for being poorly written it would have happened long ago, or better yet have been defeated when it was on the floor. Just my thoughts.

The target has in fact had 3 attempted repeals defeated at vote, which is a huge number. They have each failed for numerous reasons, but it's certainly not an uncommon belief that SC#52 is poorly written.

Tiralta wrote:New poll is up - if you can think of an actual use for any of these items, I'd love to hear it.

I chose the piece of paper, so when I'm crying and pulling my hair out at my 8th failure at starting a fire for the evening, I'd remind myself - "Hey. At least you finally quit that game!" and cheer myself up 😛

Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Tiralta

Why did so many people choose the foil?

Floofybit, Tiralta

Good luck to everyone in the next games!

Honeydewistania, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Tiralta, Pangeodrea, Polushia, Bobesville-Sholstine, Tryio

Ceasthasi wrote:Good luck to everyone in the next games!

Good luck to you too

Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Pangeodrea

Ladita wrote:Why did so many people choose the foil?

shiny *o*

Delta Vega Iv, Honeydewistania, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Pangeodrea, Tryio

Ladita wrote:Why did so many people choose the foil?

get a fire going with a stick or sunlight reflected off of my glasses then you can melt the foil down to a very thin and shiny sheet which will reflect the sun and along with your fire a seaplane/rescue plane would easily spot you and radio for help from the nearest rescue station.

Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Pangeodrea, Nametane

Remnants Of The Pacific wrote:get a fire going with a stick or sunlight reflected off of my glasses then you can melt the foil down to a very thin and shiny sheet which will reflect the sun and along with your fire a seaplane/rescue plane would easily spot you and radio for help from the nearest rescue station.

But you can do that much easier with the key

Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta

Remnants Of The Pacific wrote:get a fire going with a stick or sunlight reflected off of my glasses then you can melt the foil down to a very thin and shiny sheet which will reflect the sun and along with your fire a seaplane/rescue plane would easily spot you and radio for help from the nearest rescue station.

BURN! BURN IT ALL DOWN!

Floofybit, Tiralta

Ladita wrote:But you can do that much easier with the key

a key is generally made of iron or another type of metal that is stronger and takes more heat to melt down ( I dont think a campfire can produce that heat). Aluminum is very weak but it is also very easy to melt and a campfire could easily melt down a bit of aluminum

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Pangeodrea

Here is your Olympics update:

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1698688

And for clarity, a note (and apology!) about RP:

One of the things I seriously underestimated when throwing this event together was how hyped Refugi would be to RP even though it was meant to just be a random draw. That's on me, and I've made a note for future Councillors of Culture that if they run the Olympics, that the possibility of RP could be added from the start. Other suggestions I've written down are the possibility for a future Winter Olympics, expanded sports options, and a city bid that can be RP'd for future Olympics. These are all great ideas, and if anyone has any more I'd love to hear them.

On that note...

I'm aware that including it as an afterthought won't make this the great RP event it could have had the potential to be, however I know that some of you have written (or would like to write!) RP for the Olympics. So anything that is written about this event on the RMB or a dispatch will be shared in the Olympics dispatch so we have a record in one place of the First Refugi Olympics. RMB posts will be quoted, and dispatches can be linked, though please let me know if you write any dispatches so I can see them! I hope that this is okay in the interim <3

Chacapoya, Dyllonia, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Portmanteau, Aephony, Polushia, Azelandia, Porthosia, Astralania

Tiralta wrote:Here is your Olympics update:

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1698688

And for clarity, a note (and apology!) about RP:

One of the things I seriously underestimated when throwing this event together was how hyped Refugi would be to RP even though it was meant to just be a random draw. That's on me, and I've made a note for future Councillors of Culture that if they run the Olympics, that the possibility of RP could be added from the start. Other suggestions I've written down are the possibility for a future Winter Olympics, expanded sports options, and a city bid that can be RP'd for future Olympics. These are all great ideas, and if anyone has any more I'd love to hear them.

On that note...

I'm aware that including it as an afterthought won't make this the great RP event it could have had the potential to be, however I know that some of you have written (or would like to write!) RP for the Olympics. So anything that is written about this event on the RMB or a dispatch will be shared in the Olympics dispatch so we have a record in one place of the First Refugi Olympics. RMB posts will be quoted, and dispatches can be linked, though please let me know if you write any dispatches so I can see them! I hope that this is okay in the interim <3

Ok so I have two questions. First: What does RP mean? (sorry I don't know). Second: You are going to film the random draw and put the tape where?

A group of exhausted janitors (And all types of struggling workers) come to chill, eat snacks and cheer Aephony up. With their seats paid by the government.

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Floofybit, Tiralta, Polushia

Two athletes depart from Port Manteau to take part in the Refugi Games: Jacobine Tupa and Kai Baptiste.

Observers are surprised that these are, in fact, the only two athletes which Portmanteau sends to the Olympics, despite having announced intentions to participate in every event. When reached out to for comment by one of the reporters covering the games, a top Manteauan official responded: "These are the two best athletes throughout the entire archipelago. If they cannot win, what chance others?"

It is unclear whether, in fact, the extent of the Refugi Games was entirely clear to government officials in Portmanteau. Commentators familiar with the small, archipelagic state, point to the rather lackadaisical communication structure present there, highlighting the tottering pneumatic tube system as being especially precarious in the maintenance of communication lines among the islands.

Both Jacobine and Kai are daughters of fishing families, having grown up on the water and spending their formative years hauling lines and retrieving traps from the seabed. They are therefore expected to perform well in the swimming competitions, at the very least. Beach volleyball is a popular pastime upon the islands of Portmanteau, and so they are assumed to be familiar with the sport. However, besides these, they appear to have no formal experience with any of the remaining sports they are to be competing in, and will thus be relying on their natural athleticism. Observers are especially keen to see how the two will handle the football matches.

Chacapoya, Honeydewistania, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Tiralta

Polushia wrote:Ok so I have two questions. First: What does RP mean? (sorry I don't know). Second: You are going to film the random draw and put the tape where?

RP is roleplay - so any writing "in character" (also called IC) as your nation. This could be writing about the athletes you're sending, the feelings of those in your nation, anything you like that relates!

I'm going to put the video up on a site like youtube or vimeo that allows me to share it with you all for free (so there no accusations of cheating from those who get the back seats of the arena!)

Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Portmanteau, Polushia, Tryio

A fist fight breaks out amongst several seagulls in Chip Park, with several black eyes, bitten necks and even a broken wing. One of the seagulls who received a black eye, (name kept anonymous). Stated that the fight started over a handful of dropped chips.

Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Portmanteau, Aephony, Tiralta, Azelandia, Porthosia

Tiralta Is there still time to join?

If so, could we join all events please? Thanks!

Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Portmanteau, Porthosia

Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats wrote:Tiralta Is there still time to join?

If so, could we join all events please? Thanks!

I'm so sorry, I'd already done the draw when I saw this :(

Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Portmanteau, Porthosia

Olympics draw results!

Athletics

Gold - Delta Vega Iv

Silver - Liphia

Bronze - Porthosia

Gymnastics

Gold - Hoqeallistan

Silver - Inaros Opa

Bronze - Loki Lafeyson

Marathon

Gold - Nydelig

Silver - Tovenia

Bronze - Araine

Soccer

Gold - Delta Vega Iv

Silver - Araine

Bronze - Melenavenia

Swimming

Gold - Tovenia

Silver - Bodhisat

Bronze - Azelandia

Tennis

Gold - Porthosia

Silver - Test Country2

Bronze - Hoqeallistan

Volleyball

Gold - Aephony

Silver - Chatula

Bronze - Melenavenia

Weightlifting

Gold - Tovenia

Silver - Vikoland

Bronze - Ceasthasi

Watch the screen recording of the draw if you want but please bear in mind I'm not winning a gold medal for video editing... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP7iv16hnoU

All of the gold medallists may telegram to claim a card from my "Choose Your Prize collection". I'll do it first come, first served, so you may be asked to send in a second choice!

The winner of the legendary card, with an impressive 2 gold and 1 silver medal is Tovenia! Congratulations! Your card will be on its way.

If anyone would like a full results table for RP purposes, I can put that together on Thursday.

The Star Enpire, Chacapoya, Zukchiva, Dyllonia, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Vikoland, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Tovenia, Portmanteau, Polushia, Porthosia, Astralania, Nametane

It was an honour to compete and I'm thrilled to see we achieved success in such a diverse range of sports! Congratulations to everyone who competed.

A big thanks to Tiraltafor putting on the games.

Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Vikoland, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Azelandia, Porthosia

Tovenia wrote:It was an honour to compete and I'm thrilled to see we achieved success in such a diverse range of sports! Congratulations to everyone who competed.

A big thanks to Tiraltafor putting on the games.

Congrats on winning! And thanks to Tiralta for organising this!

Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Vikoland, Floofybit, Liphia, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Azelandia

While our soccer performance was lackluster compared to what we expected (we expected silver or gold!) we are pleasantly surprised by the performance of our volleyball duo! Gaël Choffard and Séraphine Guillaume (both only 19 years old!) nearly managed to secure a match in the finals, but unfortunately just came up short in a tight match with Chatula's spectacular duo!

Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Vikoland, Floofybit, Liphia, Portmanteau, Tiralta

Congratulations to all the winners! 🥇

Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Vikoland, Floofybit, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Porthosia

Honeydewistanian News Corporation (HNC) Sport-of-the-Day host Buck Andrews has this to say:

"Un-[expletive deleted]-believable! It's rigged! It's all rigged! It's all [expletive deleted] rigged by the [expletive deleted] in charge of the [expletive deleted] [incoherent]!!!"

"Even then, what an awful [expletive deleted] performance by those two [expletive deleted] so called "tennis players". That [expletive deleted] Szalai had her head in the clouds the whole time! And that [expletive deleted] daughter of a [expletive deleted] Mathers-Warren can't even serve a [expletive deleted] ball properly! How are supposed to [expletive deleted] [incoherent] with these two [expletive deleted] [incoherent]! And I don't even want to talk about that [expletive deleted] disgrace of our football team. I recommend that all of our athletes be fired with IMMEDIATE EFFECT. Even I could [expletive deleted] do better and I'm 70!"

The manager of Honeydewopolis City Football Club, Annie Hoffenheim, had this to say:

"I didn't think our athletes did too badly... it was just bad luck facing some great Refugi! It was a lovely event overall. We'll be back next time though! And this time, I'll personally coach that leftback to not backpass during a counterattack. Sheesh."

Preschool teacher Ahmed John-Lewis had this to say:

"I don't know really. I don't watch sports. Why did you ask me this again?"

Chacapoya, Dyllonia, Typica, Melenavenia, Liphia, Portmanteau, Aephony, Tiralta, Azelandia, Porthosia

Tiralta wrote:Volleyball

Gold - Aephony

I know "ærsëunae Ae" and "Rændyu Rae" could do it, they always were anxious but they managed it, We appreciate them so much.

Here is a quote from both players:

Ra: "Vollyball is my passion, uh. Thank you, and erhm- I uh- uhm Gulp ah.. I Th- Uhm... Yeah, I- Uh... It was- Uhm, fun."

Ae: "I am really glad to be here, thank you- Uh, Aephony, my mother, and Tiralta, I hope- Uhem, I hope- Everyone enjoyed this."

As they both wear their medals, gratefully?

Anyways, Good job Tovenia!

Chacapoya, Typica, Melenavenia, Vikoland, Floofybit, Liphia, Portmanteau, Tiralta, Polushia

Tiralta wrote:Olympics draw results!

Athletics

Gold - Delta Vega Iv

Silver - Liphia

Bronze - Porthosia

Gymnastics

Gold - Hoqeallistan

Silver - Inaros Opa

Bronze - Loki Lafeyson

Marathon

Gold - Nydelig

Silver - Tovenia

Bronze - Araine

Soccer

Gold - Delta Vega Iv

Silver - Araine

Bronze - Melenavenia

Swimming

Gold - Tovenia

Silver - Bodhisat

Bronze - Azelandia

Tennis

Gold - Porthosia

Silver - Test Country2

Bronze - Hoqeallistan

Volleyball

Gold - Aephony

Silver - Chatula

Bronze - Melenavenia

Weightlifting

Gold - Tovenia

Silver - Vikoland

Bronze - Ceasthasi

Watch the screen recording of the draw if you want but please bear in mind I'm not winning a gold medal for video editing... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP7iv16hnoU

All of the gold medallists may telegram to claim a card from my "Choose Your Prize collection". I'll do it first come, first served, so you may be asked to send in a second choice!

The winner of the legendary card, with an impressive 2 gold and 1 silver medal is Tovenia! Congratulations! Your card will be on its way.

If anyone would like a full results table for RP purposes, I can put that together on Thursday.

is there a video yet

Congratulations to the winners

Honeydewistania, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Portmanteau, Yondoria, Tiralta, Porthosia

Yondoria wrote:is there a video yet

Yes, the link to the video is included in the message you quoted. For future reference, I suggest removing at least the "" bits from a quoted message so you don't unnecessarily mention people that you don't mean to notify.

Typica, Sylh Alanor, Vikoland, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Portmanteau, Aephony, Tiralta

Assembled with Dot's Region Saver.
Written by Refuge Isle.