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So you can't pass ownership of the region to someone else or something? And how would the region cease to exist if there are people in it who are still active?

Melenavenia

Elenaraghaenaris wrote:So you can't pass ownership of the region to someone else or something? And how would the region cease to exist if there are people in it who are still active?

Refugia will always be founded by me unless it ceases to exist and gets refounded. The region will not cease to exist as long as there are people in it. But, typically, good regions need a constantly active founder or they fizzle from a lack of fuel.

If there's good support and energy from the member base, that can do amazing things too, though.

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Northeastern Arrakis, Uwusberg

It certainly seemed for a long time that people were content to exist here, without wanting to actually run it. I felt that was the reason we had such a hard time keeping anyone on Ops, even to the point of re-electing me to Culture and not letting me make the switch-over. If you all are happy to be here, that's great, and I'll certainly keep this account around, but it's no longer my WA nation and therefore cannot be in elected office once the switch in command moves over :P

Melenavenia

Presently, Virandon will be the new delegate at Major.

Virandon, Melenavenia

I was interested personally in getting involved more but I hadn't personally met the environmental goals put forth yet so I didn't feel it was appropriate to do so.

Melenavenia wrote:I was interested personally in getting involved more but I hadn't personally met the environmental goals put forth yet so I didn't feel it was appropriate to do so.

We just did those to kind of substantively represent environmentalism in law. We had floated the idea of kind of revising them for the new year and having more than 20 members in the region, but didn't get around to it. There's no requirement to be able to participate except to have your WA here, and even then we can do exceptions. The whole thing was designed to be kinda open because rigid requirements and pledges of allegiance are suuuper creepy to me. :p

Melenavenia, Northeastern Arrakis

Refuge Isle wrote:We just did those to kind of substantively represent environmentalism in law. We had floated the idea of kind of revising them for the new year and having more than 20 members in the region, but didn't get around to it. There's no requirement to be able to participate except to have your WA here, and even then we can do exceptions. The whole thing was designed to be kinda open because rigid requirements and pledges of allegiance are suuuper creepy to me. :p

I know I could it was just how I personally felt.

I pledge my soul and social security number to Refugia.

Melenavenia wrote:I know I could it was just how I personally felt.

I pledge my soul to Refugia and my social security number.

You shall now be known as Agent 13 5 12 5 14 1 22 5 14 9 1 or as Agent 101 for short.

For reference, I would be Agent 5 12 5 14 1 18 1 7 8 1 5 14 1 18 9 19 or Agent 138 for short.

Post self-deleted by Elenaraghaenaris.

I guess if we arent going to have a present Founder we should have a role called Region Holder or something with exec power

Melenavenia

Subadent wrote:I guess if we arent going to have a present Founder we should have a role called Region Holder or something with exec power

I...will still be around as long as I exist irl. And executive power can only be on the founder or the delegate.

Subadent, Melenavenia

Refuge Isle wrote:I...will still be around as long as I exist irl. And executive power can only be on the founder or the delegate.

Ok good, much easier than having to appoint someone. Luca The Arch-Administrator is our protector :3

Melenavenia

Subadent wrote:Ok good, much easier than having to appoint someone. Luca The Arch-Administrator is our protector :3

*dramatic eyeroll*

So what are you planning, Scoobiedoo?

Melenavenia

Refuge Isle wrote:*dramatic eyeroll*

So what are you planning, Scoobiedoo?

To find some monsters. And keep refugia a valid region also world domination on the side. Just the usual

Melenavenia

I thought about becoming Councillor of Operations, but I was worried about my ability to do it. Maybe I should have tried my hand in it. Regardless, I am happy to be the WA delegate for those of us who wish to stay, and we can talk about any changes or issues while Refuge Isle and Sylh Alanor are away. If either of you ever decide to return, we will probably still be here!

Melenavenia, Northeastern Arrakis

Just a notice that I will be changing my vote on the current Security Council resolution to AGAINST. The Union of Axis Powers has been raided by the North Pacific.

Melenavenia

:3 hey refugia its subatuba, any ideas for the future of us here?

Melenavenia

Virandon wrote:I thought about becoming Councillor of Operations, but I was worried about my ability to do it. Maybe I should have tried my hand in it. Regardless, I am happy to be the WA delegate for those of us who wish to stay, and we can talk about any changes or issues while Refuge Isle and Sylh Alanor are away. If either of you ever decide to return, we will probably still be here!

if need be I can always do both Foreign Affairs and Ops to be fair it may give me some more to do

Melenavenia

ok.. 38 messages.. what are we doing? Because I'm doing what you all are doing. I'm not even sure how to play this game yet, I'm certainly not trekking out on my own. That's how people get eaten by bears. I don't want to be eaten by a bear.

So are we just staying here? Or is it all about the electric boogaloo?

Melenavenia, Licatia

I'll go where you guys go

Melenavenia

Well I guess its New Refugia Time boys and gals, simply because why not

Melenavenia

all are welcome but you are all free to stay here

Melenavenia

Yeah I’m migrating, see y’all there

Good luck friends <3

Sylh Alanor

We love you lalaluca

I'm staying here for nostalgic sake. Refugia has been a memorable part of my journey in NS.

Lenin Slovakia

Refuge Isle wrote:Good luck friends <3

Aw, I’m gonna miss ye all. Is your discord account still active Luca?

Hello,

After a long break, I have decided to come to NS and continue on the progress I have hopefully made here. Sorry for the extended break.

I think it is important to recognize our disappearing marine life and polluting our ocean, an important piece of our planet that controls a large chunk of our oxygen.

Ghost gear (aka lost, abandoned or discarded fishing equipment) is one of the biggest threats to marine animals in our oceans. According to the United Nations Environment Program (UNEP), a staggering 640,000 tons of ghost gear is left in our oceans each year – more than one ton every minute!

Ghost gear is harming marine animals and contributing to our ocean’s plastic problem. In our report 'Ghosts beneath the waves' we found that:

- since 2012, the number of species affected by marine debris has increased by over 23%

- more than half of the ocean’s microplastics measured by weight is fishing related (view infographic)

- ghost gear contributes to an estimated 5 to 30% decline in some fish stock levels

- as many as 92% of encounters between marine animals and debris, including ghost gear, involves plastic debris

- almost half of all threatened species are impacted by ghost gear

80% of the largest seafood companies do not yet have an effective way of dealing with ghost gear and that’s why we’re asking them to do more to address this problem.

Sign this petition in order to bring forth change and raise a voice on this crucial matter:

https://www.worldanimalprotection.ca/our-work/animals-wild/sea-change/urge-seafood-companies-to-do-more-protect-ocean-animals?src=google_grants&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIlYHto5La5wIVh_hkCh3dowfwEAAYASAAEgL65fD_BwE

Taikwai

well well well, how the turns have tabled... er ... I mean....

I log in and I'm the new WA delegate? Thank you all for your incredible support for.... oh? It defaulted to me? well... that's a bit less fun...

So long my friends, I depart for New Refugia

take care Refuge Isle

*music* The days are ending...

Olivatopia

Wait... what's happening, and why is it now happening in New Refugia? I DEMAND MY MONEY BACK! :P

[spoiler=#supportthewet'suwet'en]https://globalnews.ca/news/6585689/blockades-wetsuweten-chiefs-bc/

This just in that in British Columbia, the western-most and a very important province in Canada, there is a new LNG pipeline that is to be built, backed by the provincial and federal government. This is happening in the north of the province however, the hereditary leaders of the Wet'suwet'en indigenous group has denied the construction of the pipeline on their land.

This has sparked many debates and the RCMP, the police of Canada have even went inside their land and tried to forcefully resolve the situation, but they were forced back in vain. The Wet'suwet'en created a railway blockage in their land so that trains cannot pass through it, slowing the economy as a sign of protest. The provincial government wants the pipeline to go through at any cost and so do the federal.

The Mohawk indigenous group in Ontario followed suit with the idea of a rail blockage as a sign of protest and joined their friends in B.C. By this, the PM Justin Trudeau has had enough and calls it unacceptable but this only sparked more protests in big cities like Vancouver and Toronto by sympathizers and supporters of the Wet'suwet'en. This is currently going on and is a huge issue in B.C. and in Canada. The federal government is currently having talks as you read this with the Wet'suwet'en as they agreed to hold talks. It is the second day of the talks so far, but with no progress and the support and protests increasing in favor of the Wet'suwet'en.

In the name of environmentalism and Indigenous peoples around the world, this injustice has to stop now and the world and its people must look towards the future rather than destroying it and living in luxury right now.

Repost this hashtag in all regions and your own so that all of NS gets to know about this!

#supportthewet'suwet'en[/spoiler]

wait, what is happening, what is new Refugia?

Hello everyone,

I hope you all are safe from the effects of COVID-19. Please stay safe and strong.

Here are a few links that you can read to pass your time at home:

This is a cool story to read if you're bored

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/22/the-beautiful-south-our-wild-vulnerable-world-seen-from-a-greenpeace-ship

The "oil" era is finally coming to a decline and hopefully an end due to coronavirus

https://www.greenpeace.org/international/story/29458/peak-oil-decline-coronavirus-economy/

Due to the coronavirus, the earth is finally blooming again amidst the absence of humans where there is cleaner waters in Venice and cleaner air in China. Our planet benefited from the virus, so it is time we learn from it.

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/environment/coronavirus-shutdowns-have-unintended-climate-benefits-n1161921

Sylh Alanor

Happy Earth Day, Refugi <3

Karen Matheson

A Giant Meteor blazes through the sky overhead; leaving a trail of sparks in the sky above your region; those sparks seem to fall in a particular pattern, spelling out the words:

CONGRATULATIONS ON BEING FEATURED

before the meteor vanishes over the horizon; leaving the sky dark and empty as it passes through.

Congratulations On Being Featured

Oh hello world.

Ashaie, Karen Matheson, A Giant Meteor

Helloo

Karen Matheson, Sylh Alanor, A Giant Meteor

Post by Northportugalinho suppressed by a moderator.

You're the featured region! YAAAAAAAYYY!!!!

Congratulations On Being Featured, Sylh Alanor, A Giant Meteor

Paisam wrote:Helloo

Welcome to Refugia, have a scone

Sylh Alanor, A Giant Meteor

Beep beep! Congrats on being the featured region of the day! Anyone for some cake?

Congratulations On Being Featured, Sylh Alanor, A Giant Meteor, Happyland Featured

Congratulations on being featured my friends!

Sylh Alanor, Rmsboatymcboatface, A Giant Meteor, Happyland Featured

Ah just noticed our friends are featured, congratulations!

Congratulations On Being Featured, Karen Matheson, Sylh Alanor, Rmsboatymcboatface, Happyland Featured

Oh wow hi anyone who's joining because of the feature. Gee, if only this had been done like six months ago, lol. But I should probably write a dispatch on what has happened over the past few months and what plans I've got for the future.

Welcome Vikoland!

Congratulations On Being Featured, Rmsboatymcboatface, Happyland Featured, Vikoland

Jus dropped in a map update. Gie a shout if a've mucked it up

Sylh Alanor, Rmsboatymcboatface, Happyland Featured

Hey Hey! You're Featured Today! Congratulations My Friends!

\_O_/ Yay! :D

Congratulations On Being Featured, Sylh Alanor, Happyland Featured

Congratulations on your feature, Refugia!

Congratulations On Being Featured, Karen Matheson, Sylh Alanor, Rmsboatymcboatface, Happyland Featured

Hi friends! I hope you have a beautiful day.

Sylh Alanor

Taikwai wrote:Hi friends! I hope you have a beautiful day.

Thanks! I love this flag you have

Sylh Alanor, Taikwai

Karen Matheson wrote:Thanks! I love this flag you have

Aw thank you so much! I made it yesterday :)

Sylh Alanor

If only we had bin quicker

Sylh Alanor

Karen Matheson wrote:If only we had bin quicker

You're right, Scottish folk superstar Karen Matheson. We just need to try harder.

Taikwai

Sylh Alanor wrote:Welcome Feu De Glace!!

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oh ok :c

Karen Matheson wrote:If only we had bin quicker

Sorry, I've been busy! Gotta run again!

Sylh Alanor

Trans Anarcho-Communist Lesbian Catgirls wrote:Sorry, I've been busy! Gotta run again!

SHE KEEPS LEAVING US

Sylh Alanor wrote:SHE KEEPS LEAVING US

I have a feeling the SecGen election was just a conspiracy from Lily.

Sylh Alanor

Sylh Alanor wrote:SHE KEEPS LEAVING US

Karen Matheson wrote:I have a feeling the SecGen election was just a conspiracy from Lily.

Sorrryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy I'm just a busy lady~!

Sylh Alanor

Karen Matheson wrote:I have a feeling the SecGen election was just a conspiracy from Lily.

It absolutely was! Sorry about the double post!

Sylh Alanor

Lily Potter wrote:Sorrryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy I'm just a busy lady~!

:c

Wysteria Mysteria wrote:It absolutely was! Sorry about the double post!

We've blown the case wide open, World's Greatest Hair award nominee Karen Matheson!

To be fair, the last one was totally cheating, she distracted me with a DM!

Janidys all nations of Refugia! Glad to be here and contribute.

Sylh Alanor, Taikwai

We're glad to have you here ^-^

I've chosen to vote against the current WA resolution-at-vote. I was actually kind of for it until I reached the exception clause stating that an unwanted injection can be given in the case of capital punishment. I believe that, in accordance to our regional beliefs in human rights and aversion to cruelty, it is wrong to support any legislation that allows for the state to execute its citizens.

Karen Matheson

Hello friends! As some of you are aware, Refugia is waking up now after a several-month-long nap. As we wipe the grogginess from our collective eyes and shake the cobwebs from our eternal hivemind, the clouds part and from heaven itself descends this Mod Advice.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1364671

For those of you who were unaware that this was effectively a dead region until approximately ten days ago, welcome! You're in the exciting position of being here at the start of a brand new chapter, one where you have a voice and can help build this place into what you want it to be! Or, conversely, nothing has to change and you can just chill out in the RMB and we'll all be friends and talk about things.

Edit: Also, welcome back Chacapoya <3 it's good to see you again. I hope you're doing well in these plague-ridden times.

Chacapoya, Taikwai

Hi. I'm back. That was crazy stuff.

I know some people are going to come here from New Refugia as well so I'll just say to them I apologize for my outburst. I was always willing to help but I wasn't quite willing to lead. I just stepped up when I shouldn't have.

But to Old Refugia I say hi. Long time no see.

Sylh Alanor, Taikwai

Melenavenia wrote:I know some people are going to come here from New Refugia as well so I'll just say to them I apologize for my outburst. I was always willing to help but I wasn't quite willing to lead. I just stepped up when I shouldn't have.

Hey, it's all in the past now. Like I mentioned in my dispatch, running a region is incredibly hard, especially when you're taking too many of the responsibilities onto yourself. You're always welcome here and should relax and just enjoy yourself.

Karen Matheson, Duolian, Melenavenia

I should like to clarify that I'm still here, (Refuge Isle), and probably will be as long as I have accounts in this game, even if my main isn't always in the region. Whenever I'm not updating, which is a separate personal project from Refugia, I'll have my WA here to support the delegate, but I would be interested in seeing other people work on figuring out their own way that they fit into this region and focus less on power hierarchies.

If anyone has questions on how to do something, you can drop it in the RMB and I'll talk about what I know about it, if it helps.

Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia

Ah, home sweet home.

Karen Matheson, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia

It feels good to be back

Karen Matheson, Sylh Alanor, Duolian, Melenavenia

Welcome home, friends.

Karen Matheson, Melenavenia, Uwusberg

Does anyone feel like during the last few weeks their issues have gotten more...one sided?

My options of late have been like "allow the thing AND spend tons of money to support the thing, allow businesses to take over the world, ban the thing AND spend tons of money to punish people for not doing the opposite"

... listen here, Minister, I just want to outlaw child labor abuses, not create mandatory play time.

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Taikwai

Duolian wrote:Does anyone feel like during the last few weeks their issues have gotten more...one sided?

I know that I've been getting a billion issues for related to socialism/communism, but that's probably because I just put it on for the first time in a year and a half, so there's probably a backlog of stuff I couldn't get before :p

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia

Duolian wrote:Does anyone feel like during the last few weeks their issues have gotten more...one sided?

... listen here, Minister, I just want to outlaw child labor abuses, not create mandatory play time.

I'm sorry, are you some kind of anti-playtime monster?

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia

Uwusberg wrote:I'm sorry, are you some kind of anti-playtime monster?

If you love something, lock it in a jungle gym

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, The Parshi

Idk who endorsed me but thank you very much

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, The Parshi, Taikwai

Hello, it's nice to be back.

Karen Matheson, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, The Parshi

I'm kinda curious. How many of you are from the Americas and how many of you are from Europe? What continents are you from?

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, The Parshi

Elenaraghaenaris wrote:I'm kinda curious. How many of you are from the Americas and how many of you are from Europe? What continents are you from?

Welcome back friend ^-^ I appreciate you helping us out with the embassies and the like.

Canada here, so North America.

Karen Matheson, Melenavenia, The Parshi

I'm from America. And hello to you as well, Emily.

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, The Parshi, Taikwai

Paisam wrote:Idk who endorsed me but thank you very much

You're welcome lol. Elenaraghaenaris has done it too now.

Elenaraghaenaris wrote:I'm kinda curious. How many of you are from the Americas and how many of you are from Europe? What continents are you from?

Florida, USA

Sylh Alanor

From UK here so I'm European

(also thanks for the endorsement)

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, The Parshi

Sylh Alanor wrote:Canada here, so North America.

Oh weird, me too O.o

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia

Melenavenia wrote:You're welcome lol. Elenaraghaenaris has done it too now.

Florida, USA

I'm Florida, USA too! Hi friend!

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia

Wouldn't it be funny if everyone else from the USA was from Florida? I'm from Texas, but I still consider myself as from Georgia because that's where I grew up.

Karen Matheson, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Taikwai

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1366966

New Eco-Report for a new age. Let me know what you think of the format, and if there are any changes you'd like to see going forward.

Klyjanoragh, Melenavenia, Taikwai

Do we need anyone for government positions?

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia

Sylh Alanor wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1366966

New Eco-Report for a new age. Let me know what you think of the format, and if there are any changes you'd like to see going forward.

It looks great!

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia

Elenaraghaenaris wrote:Do we need anyone for government positions?

If you're interested, I know that we'll be needing people soon. Granted, I'm hoping we can build a government that doesn't come across as hierarchical, so I don't know how many positions we'll ultimately end up with.

I'm thinking definitely one for dealing with other regions, since that's taken up a lot of my time, and maybe someone who can work on keeping activity up (posting a lot in the RMB, setting polls regularly, etc). Ops is good to keep, but I think Refuge is going to be happiest there and I'm happy to keep her there. I'm also happy to help organise things and keep people running, and also writing up silly reports since that's what I enjoy. But I don't want anyone to feel like the staff are inherently more important than or above anyone else.

Thoughts?

Melenavenia

Klyjanoragh wrote:It looks great!

I'm hoping to grab that top 3 spot by next month. I've been making a lot of progress!

Sylh Alanor

Melenavenia wrote:I'm hoping to grab that top 3 spot by next month. I've been making a lot of progress!

Glad to hear that that, join us :)

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia

Sylh Alanor wrote:If you're interested, I know that we'll be needing people soon. Granted, I'm hoping we can build a government that doesn't come across as hierarchical, so I don't know how many positions we'll ultimately end up with.

I'm thinking definitely one for dealing with other regions, since that's taken up a lot of my time, and maybe someone who can work on keeping activity up (posting a lot in the RMB, setting polls regularly, etc). Ops is good to keep, but I think Refuge is going to be happiest there and I'm happy to keep her there. I'm also happy to help organise things and keep people running, and also writing up silly reports since that's what I enjoy. But I don't want anyone to feel like the staff are inherently more important than or above anyone else.

Thoughts?

Whatever changes that come up, I still think it would be best to formally draft them and edit them into the RRS so that we can at least follow our own rules and give some kind of opening or structure for people (now or in the future) to modify how the region works, even if it's for IC ideological positions like the eco report.

IMO less is more, I'd rather have some active people in the RO slots than buff it up to make it look big. My goal before was to kind of skip certain permissions so that people had their area of focus or otherwise had to work together, but times were certainly strange, and that didn't always work. Certainly, I'm the most comfortable in Ops, being knee-deep in r/d and familiar with how Z/N-Days work.

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris

Karen Matheson wrote:Whatever changes that come up, I still think it would be best to formally draft them and edit them into the RRS so that we can at least follow our own rules and give some kind of opening or structure for people (now or in the future) to modify how the region works, even if it's for IC ideological positions like the eco report.

IMO less is more, I'd rather have some active people in the RO slots than buff it up to make it look big. My goal before was to kind of skip certain permissions so that people had their area of focus or otherwise had to work together, but times were certainly strange, and that didn't always work. Certainly, I'm the most comfortable in Ops, being knee-deep in r/d and familiar with how Z/N-Days work.

Yeah, we should make a draft of the position responsibilities so nothing gets confusing or misinterpreted.

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia

Elenaraghaenaris wrote:Yeah, we should make a draft of the position responsibilities so nothing gets confusing or misinterpreted.

Proactive!

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris

Yeah, I totally agree that we should format all changes to Refugia through the format of amendments to the already existing Revised Statutes. I think I should have my first one prepared to begin looking for a cosponsor by the end of the day.

Melenavenia

Sylh Alanor wrote:Yeah, I totally agree that we should format all changes to Refugia through the format of amendments to the already existing Revised Statutes. I think I should have my first one prepared to begin looking for a cosponsor by the end of the day.

I'm sure whatever it is you'll have plenty of willing cosponsors. :)

Sylh Alanor

Melenavenia wrote:I'm sure whatever it is you'll have plenty of willing cosponsors. :)

👀

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1367180

Hello Vierait! Welcome to Refugia!

Sylh Alanor wrote:👀

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1367180

I don't know if its proper to say that I'm willing to cosponsor it in the RMB but I'll do it anyway unless I'm told better. I think the goals you set out for us are reachable but at the same time I wouldn't be surprised if we as a region don't make it there. But since I think its doable I absolutely support it and I'm willing to cosponsor it.

Sylh Alanor

A brief note regarding housekeeping: before I stepped away from the game for a bit, a referendum regarding an elected WA delegate was passed 9:2 (https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=152545), however, I neglected to revise the RRS dispatch at the time. That has been corrected and the Revised Statutes have become ever more revised~

Elenaraghaenaris wrote:Yeah, we should make a draft of the position responsibilities so nothing gets confusing or misinterpreted.

I agree, we'll need to mix what the region needs with what people are interested in doing so there isn't another weird gap in positions or anyone feels left out. Sooooo, it's not really a platform for me, but I'm going to spin up a Google Doc for thinking about what the council positions should look like and how they work so we can (literally) all be on the same page.

Because I reasonably think that just dropping a link into the RMB might be a *bad* idea, if anyone is interested in helping to draft/revise these positions, please telegram me to request a link to the doc on either Karen Matheson or Refuge Isle, (where I might see it sooner).

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia

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