Post Archive
Region: Refugia
Welcome Social Awkward (nice name bubba), Laswar, Flohovistan, and Human Rights Watch!
Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Duolian, Laswar
These are some stellar nation names
Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Laswar, Flohovistan
Greetings. We are The United Socialist States of Flohovistan. We are proud to be joining your humble but excellent community of Refugia.
Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia
Heya, welcome to the region, we're glad to have you! Feel free to ask for help if you need to find anything. The game's kinda weird when you first start out :p
I'm taking candidates for the Councillor of Culture position at the moment. Is this what you mean to declare yourself for?
Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan
I'm open for that.
Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia
Neat! I'll keep accepting candidates for the next fourish days.
Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia
Welcome everyone!
Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Laswar
It's so nice to have you here ^-^
Melenavenia, Flohovistan
Refugia flourishes.
Sacred Bread, Sylh Alanor, Nadezka, Melenavenia, Flohovistan
Welcome Amadar to Refugia! Glad to have you here. :)
Sylh Alanor, Nadezka
Greetings fellow Refugians! Thank you for the welcoming words. I'm happy to be in such a chill place (I hope :D)
Sacred Bread, Nadezka, Melenavenia
I'll beat you up.
I'm hoping that you two know each other...
Nadezka, Melenavenia
Lets take this time to appreciate Melenavenias gorgeous flag, people and polar bears.
Melenavenia
I'm only joking... unless they punch first.
Thank you, your nation looks cool too.
Yeah we are chill... Puts on sunglasses and pulls out a coconut with a straw
Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan
Completely unrelated, it's always funny to me looking at the general governmental makeup of our region, and then looking back at my own.
Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg
Yeah, we just have to run Emily through every staff position until she legally can't exist here anymore :p
Tell me about what's going on in your region?
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Nadezka, Melenavenia
I read that but missed the word "here" and was wondering how she would cease to exist legally in general >.>
Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg
I'm fine, I can keep working 🤪
Chacapoya, Melenavenia
In my first official act as Councillor of Foreign Affairs, I am calling for a referendum to be held on the withdrawal of our embassy with the Environmental Protection Council. Attached is my official statement and reasoning.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1393759
Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Melenavenia
Doing my best to go for Iron Fist Socialists.
End goal is max environment, lifespan, income equality, and civil rights.
Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Duolian, Melenavenia
Seconded! I agree with the points laid out. There is no reason to have an embassy with a dead region.
Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia
Thanks, friend!
I've set up the poll so every member state will have seven days to vote. The poll will end at roughly 21:52 PST, June 29th, so get the vote in while you can :)
Chacapoya, Melenavenia
Hello, Refugia! I just posted a new topic on the forum for trading with Grand Quebecois. We will trade cheese, automobiles, timber, fish, gold and metal. The link will bring you to the forum. Trade away, I look forward to doing business with the many great nations here.
https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=487564
Sacred Bread, Melenavenia
Just making a joke about how she's always in government :p
Nice, I didn't even know that you were working on this. In favour, obviously, all the embassies we have should mean something and be functional imo
Sylh Alanor, Nadezka, Melenavenia, Flohovistan
I like quietly letting people think I'm not doing any work and then surprising them with something I've been working at 🤪
Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Flohovistan
I just joined the WA... :)
Chacapoya, Sacred Bread, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia
Good Morning Refugia, how is everyone?
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia
Wow, how are you still awake?
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Nadezka
g'morning...
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia
Sylh Alanor I sent u a telegram so u could put me on the region map... I meet all the criteria. If my recommended size is too large, shrink it down to the maximum allowed possible size.
Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia
Oops, sorry, I forgot to reply. I've forwarded it on and it should be on the next map update <3
Melenavenia, Flohovistan
ok good :)
Melenavenia
Sorry about the delay with the map, life has been slightly trying lately. I've processed the request and you should be able to find your shining country in the Refugia regional map below https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1287372
If you can't see it, I recommend a hard refresh, which is ctrl + F5 in The Chosen browser. It looks like you've been in the region for about five days, so Imma only do about half of the island you requested, and then if you stick around, we can fill in the rest later. 😉
Outside of that, let me know if anyone finds anything missing/wrong/broken/cursed
Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Flohovistan
I wasn't still awake, I had just woken up.. I had work in the morning :P
Melenavenia
Refuge Isle I tried doing the ctrl+f5 thing, but it doesn't work on my device. Also, I refreshed the page, logged out, logged back on, but still, my nation didn't show up on the map. What's happening?
Melenavenia
I don't know what your device is, but here's a general tutorial page on what hard refreshing is and how to do it on various platforms:
https://www.howtogeek.com/672607/how-to-hard-refresh-your-web-browser-to-bypass-your-cache/
The reason this is an issue is because the map dispatch does not change and neither do the file URLs. So, for example, if you're using a browser on a cell phone with an aggressive caching scheme that tries to reduce data usage, it's going to hope that images it has seen before do not change. If you are on a phone and the above link does not help you, you can also attempt to long tap each map image and open it in a new tab and refresh it there to manually kick out your old data.
Melenavenia
🍤
Chacapoya, Melenavenia
Goes dog.
It do in fact goes.
How are you?
Melenavenia
her isnt good for you, but she is good for you.
Melenavenia
Ja, det er sant, ikke sant?
Melenavenia
Gå i dvale, kjeks!
Melenavenia
Nei! Jeg skal ikke!
Melenavenia
Greetings Refugia,
We are a group of semi-nomadic people that travel at the will of our fatherland, The Young Ur. We have arrived here with a question for Sylh Alanor, does this region currently have an ambassador from Forest? If so, please identify them.
Pleasures all ours,
Chacapoya, Sacred Bread, Melenavenia
Welcome! To my knowledge, we do not currently have an ambassador from Forest.
Chacapoya, Sacred Bread, Melenavenia
Hey! I am new nation looking to get back into Nationstates.
My nation is going to be a post-war state, where the civil rebellion was squashed.
Chacapoya, Sacred Bread, Melenavenia, Flohovistan
Heyo. :)
Sorry for my tardiness, but an amount of time has passed for the Culture notice, and we're highly in yolo mode right now, so please give warm regards to the chaotic energy of Klyjanoragh who is sure to take Refugia to new levels of shrimpposting as it's new Councillor of Culture.
Next, I'll be taking candidates for the Councillor of the Interior, whose responsibilities are defined as facilitation of Regional engagement through communication with and polling of Member States and residents. Furthermore, the Councillor is responsible for broadcasting announcements via telegram and ensuring an amicable discussion environment.
This candidacy period will conclude in five days, post a message if interested :3
Chacapoya, Sacred Bread, Melenavenia
Congrats Kly! I look forward to seeing your takes on the reports <3
Chacapoya, Klyjanoragh, Melenavenia
ABAHAYHAHABAHZO
Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Uwusberg
No idea what I expected.
Chacapoya, Melenavenia
Cultural
Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Uwusberg
🍷
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia
I would like to announce my candidacy for the Councillor of the Interior. Here is my announcement/campaign post: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1390104
Chacapoya, Sacred Bread, Sylh Alanor, Klyjanoragh, Uwusberg
Best of luck!
Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Uwusberg
A strong campaign! Best of luck to you, and anyone else who runs!
Chacapoya, Klyjanoragh, Melenavenia
Thank you!
Thank you and I really do hope someone else runs. It would feel more democratic.
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor
pfff, democracy
Refuge Isle, Melenavenia
Now that you mention it, there *is* nothing that says I can't randomly appoint someone an RO that isn't mentioned in the RRS...
Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Akkana
NEATO BURRITO ADMIN LADY RISES AGAIN
Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Akkana
Post self-deleted by Klyjanoragh.
oh no
Hi from the Republic of Hannovria we greet the members of Refugia, we hope that our stay will be lasting. :)
Sylh Alanor, Klyjanoragh, Melenavenia
T_T
Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia
The referendum to close our embassy with The Environmental Protection Council has passed six votes to one. In accordance with the will of the Member States of Refugia, I am withdrawing our embassy now.
Poll results for posterity:
https://i.imgur.com/anjaWZ6.png
Melenavenia
It's worth noting that past completed polls in the region are preserved here: [pre]https://www.nationstates.net/page=polls/v=region:refugia[/pre]
Told ya I would get you one day!
Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia
How do we feel about life in Refugia?
Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia
Ha, I totally knew that because I'm good at this game! -sweat sweat sweat-
Also, I would like to draw the region's attention to the following dispatch regarding the potential opening of embassies with the region of Taiwan. If no other nations stand against Melenavenia for Councillor of the Interior, I will be calling a referendum on this issue starting later today. Thank you.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1397695
Refuge Isle, Melenavenia, Hannovria
Great.
Sylh Alanor, Nadezka
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This is highly unfortunate.
Chacapoya, Sugrinla
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Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Nadezka, Melenavenia
gives mod s'mores
Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Akkana
Thank you, great old ones.
I suppose we will just have to stop giving people regional officer positions if they're just going to keep doing this one trick.
Also hello everyone, I have called the poll. We all have seven days from approximately the time on this message to vote on whether or not we should establish embassies with Taiwan, given the reasoning supplied in my dispatch. Thank you for reading!
Chacapoya, Nadezka, Melenavenia, Mediumville
I did not realize HOW highly unfortunate this was.
I also informed The Rejected Realms who they now have in their midst since with their alt account that they caused trouble here with they already caused trouble there before being banished to it on their main(?).
Chacapoya
Hello.
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan, Hannovria
Dc Kurdistan welcome to Refugia
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia
Sup! What Flohovistan said!
Sylh Alanor, Flohovistan
I wish to explain my vote on the current referendum.
While I wish to expand our diplomatic reach into the world, the region in question seems to be a low activity, news aggregation region. The patterns of activity and number of embassies indicate a region existing mainly to establish embassies, with regional activity as an afterthought.
And although agree with their stances and tags, as well as their choice in regional embassies, the fact that we just removed an embassy from a defunct region with similar activity levels has led to my decision to abstain from the current vote.
I do not intend to influence votes with this, I merely wish to explain my vote.
Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Hannovria
Your reasoning is extremely sound, and I might even suggest it's worth a "no" vote, but if abstaining is where you're most comfortable, I think that's totally valid.
Chacapoya, Melenavenia
Taking this opinion into account and after shuffling it, the Hannovria foreign affairs delegation changes the yes vote to abstention. We want to make it known that the comment has not influenced, but that we have taken it as a suggestion.
Chacapoya, Melenavenia
China will not be happy if you construct an embassy with Taiwan. An economic and cultural office, however...
Melenavenia
I was reading their embassies out loud because some of them were funny, and had to stop when I got to China because it actually made me laugh out loud.
Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Dc Kurdistan, Melenavenia
Heya all. Just doing my monthly check in. Life hasn't been so great, but Refugia rocks again nowadays, which is awesome!
Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Duolian, Melenavenia
I'm sorry to hear that! If there's anything I can do for ya, lmk!
Narwhal, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia
Oh no, I'm sorry Samu :c
But you can come here any time and we'll try to cheer you up
Chacapoya, Narwhal, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia
Don't be afraid to let us know why if you're comfortable with it.
Chacapoya, Narwhal, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor
I would like to take a second to celebrate that I've just completed a Season 2 Refugia card collection, thanks tremendously to Nadezka finding the card for Russia Number 5 in a kind of one-in-a-million draw!
https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/collection=16699
I am tentatively pleased to announce that Melenavenia has been appointed to Councillor of the Interior, and hopefully breaks the trend of newly appointed ROs disassociating from known reality XD
Congrats and good luck :3
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Nadezka, Melenavenia, Uwusberg
Hi Samu, I missed you, and I hope life gets better for you soon <3
Also congratulations Melenavenia!
Chacapoya, Narwhal, Melenavenia
Side note, I know the Issues in this game are designed to be exaggerated caricatures, but one I just came across was somewhat upsetting.
Asking whether polygamy was ok, my options were, 1.No 2. Yes 3. Yes, allow gay marriage, and legalize marrying your pets (with implied bestiality).
This frustrates me, with the common anti LGBT+ argument of a slippery slope, oft with the example of legalizing pedophilia or bestiality as soon as gay marriage is legalized.
To see this reinforced is unfortunate at best.
Sylh Alanor, Duolian, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Hannovria
I support what you say, it is totally unacceptable.
Ideas of what can we do?
Chacapoya, Melenavenia
I'm all for making fun of problematic people or opinions to take away their power, but that requires precision in your writing. Just giving these options constantly is normalising the argument and internalising it as valid for a lot of the members of the site. And it's like... the general discussion forum is bad because of that, too.
It's frustrating, and I'm sorry :c
Chacapoya, Melenavenia
Yeah :/
Doing further research, this is issue #32. Published in 2003, edited by the Creator himself.
Explains some, yet still disappointing.
Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg
I've been working on my own Refugia card collection if you remember that. I've been doing it a bit differently however by also collecting the cards of nations that do not have Refugia on them but they are/were members of the region.
I promise you I will not continue that trend. However I am currently a bit less active at the moment because I am out of town with different people in my family (has been the case for a couple weeks now) but I'll be back Friday and then I'll resume my normal activity. Imma drop my Discord here because it's the best and fastest way to contact me (Raskuly#0627). I'll make a dispatch and put my Discord tag in it once I'm on my laptop and send it here. Thank you for the congratulations and the good luck. :)
Thanks. :)
It does not help that zoophiles and pedophiles have and are actively trying to disguise themselves as members of the LGBT community in order to justify and protect themselves.
I know this for a fact because I've gone down the rabbit hole of finding one Twitter account that says "zoosexual" and through it finding dozens upon dozens of other accounts of other people with the same "zoosexual" description or "pedosexual".
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Uwusberg
That's absolutely something that happens, but you have to consider that many of those people are really just fascists' alt accounts who want to stir up a moral panic. The possibility of pedophiles/zoophiles becoming accepted as part of the LGBT+ umbrella is basically zero, but but it's a huge cash cow for homophobic news networks to trot out whenever they want a quick ratings boost, so it never goes away as this supposed looming threat.
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Hannovria
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Written by Refuge Isle.