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Refuge Isle wrote:Good morning. Your thought for the day:

If your apartment could be flooded with any animal, what should it be?

Blue Heeler puppies

Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan, Pedesko

Pedesko wrote:Wait, what?

That sounds harmful to those poor animals!

We’re assuming they consented to the flooding, right? :P

Lower French Gregballs, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan, Pedesko

Refuge Isle wrote:Good morning. Your thought for the day:

If your apartment could be flooded with any animal, what should it be?

That’s a hard question. Something without claws because otherwise I’d probably be scratched to death by terrified animals. But also that rules out like all my favorite animals. Maybe capybaras hmm yes

Lower French Gregballs, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan, Pedesko, Bellerre

Bellerre wrote:We’re assuming they consented to the flooding, right? :P

If so... Pangolins

Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan

I think I would like an apartment full of chickens because they need a lot of help.

Feu De Glace, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan, Bellerre

Refuge Isle wrote:

If your apartment could be flooded with any animal, what should it be?

Fishes. Flood it with fishes. Are you also flooding your apartment? Maybe. But, ask yourself: does it really matter? After all, you're increasing your eco-friendliness and--oh I'm being told it's no longer green week. OKAY GUYS, BRING IN THE SMOKESTACKS, THE GOVERNMENTS DECLEARED THEY'RE ANIMALS NOW. WE GOTTA UNDO ALL OUR PROGRESS SO WE CAN INCREASE EVERYTHING AGAIN NEXT YEAR.

This thought to you by a sleepy Saka.

Lower French Gregballs, Lethodus, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan

Refuge Isle wrote:Good morning. Your thought for the day:

If your apartment could be flooded with any animal, what should it be?

bees.

Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan

Feu De Glace wrote:Fishes. Flood it with fishes. Are you also flooding your apartment? Maybe. But, ask yourself: does it really matter? After all, you're increasing your eco-friendliness and--oh I'm being told it's no longer green week. OKAY GUYS, BRING IN THE SMOKESTACKS, THE GOVERNMENTS DECLEARED THEY'RE ANIMALS NOW. WE GOTTA UNDO ALL OUR PROGRESS SO WE CAN INCREASE EVERYTHING AGAIN NEXT YEAR.

This thought to you by a sleepy Saka.

Saka, your apartment is an aquarium.

Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan

Refuge Isle wrote:Good morning. Your thought for the day:

If your apartment could be flooded with any animal, what should it be?

I have no idea.

Lower French Gregballs, Melenavenia, Flohovistan

Refuge Isle wrote:Saka, your apartment is an aquarium.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1400906

Lower French Gregballs, Refuge Isle, Melenavenia, Flohovistan

WOW Emily, way to give away my old sleepers.

Edit: OH NO ALPHA DIED

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan

Refuge Isle wrote:WOW Emily, way to give away my old sleepers.

Oh no I'm so sorry xD

Refuge Isle, Melenavenia, Flohovistan

Haha! Finally an unemployment rate lower than 2%

Lower French Gregballs, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan

Refuge Isle wrote:Good morning. Your thought for the day:

If your apartment could be flooded with any animal, what should it be?

Rabbits--cuz I they're my favorite animal and more.

Flohovistan, Bellerre

Up for vote in about an hour and a half, Commend Kenmoria, meaning Honeydew will have a GA and SC proposal up for vote at the same time :P

Resolution: (https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=honeydewistania_1605852123)

Thread: (https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=494250)

Honestly it seems fine to me. I've seen Kenmoria around the WA forums and they always seem friendly enough. Obviously their accomplishments have been reasonably substantial, and I think it's nice to see variety in an SC proposal for the first time in a little bit!

The only downsides I think are echoes of my message yesterday. It's another thread with very few posts and the posts are mostly concerned with technical issues. I feel like it might have been rushed for the purpose to get passed before S3 starts :P

That being said, unlike yesterday's argument, I don't see any big issues with this one. Commending a person who's been helpful in the WA forum seems like a lovely goal.

Lower French Gregballs, Melenavenia, Flohovistan, Junitaki-Cho, Bellerre

Sylh Alanor wrote:~snip~

I don’t have too much opinion on this one, mostly because I really don’t know the guy and have never heard their name before this proposal, so context is not something I have much of here

Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan

Sylh Alanor wrote:Up for vote in about an hour and a half, Commend Kenmoria

I approve of this one. When I attempted to draft a WA resolution for the first (and only) time back in the stone age, they were really helpful and welcoming. I also like the sound of the resolutions they have co-authored, like "promoting natural sciences" and "ensuring effectual recycling," though I can't say I'm too familiar with the details on those.

Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Flohovistan

The Avalonian Government would be interested in relations with [Nation]Bellerre and more information about its geographic location.

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Flohovistan

New Camelot Of Avalonia wrote:The Avalonian Government would be interested in relations with [Nation]Bellerre and more information about its geographic location.

Unfortunately, the nomadic peoples of Bellerre have yet to determine a suitable place to call home. However, observers predict that they will select a rough territory in which to continually traverse in about a week or so's time.

New Camelot Of Avalonia, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan, Cadenzana

Good evening,

The Refugia regional map has been updated. It now features The Isle Of Raftel, Feu De Glace, Indimu to the best of my understanding of their requests.

Further, Chacapoya and Flohovistan have had their territories modified, per their requests.

Narwhal was also added, although apparently the map is much less kind with letting me paint territories in water, so. Still figuring out how best to make that work.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1287372

If you have trouble loading the new images, hard refresh the dispatch page, because the image URLs do not change.

Chacapoya, Feu De Glace, Lethodus, Narwhal, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Michelland, Flohovistan, Junitaki-Cho, Laisou, The Isle Of Raftel, Bellerre

Refuge Isle, I love how you painted [nation=Narwhal]. It looks all cute and fishy and regal. I hope they like their mapped image as well.

Narwhal, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan, Laisou

What are we voting for

Melenavenia, Flohovistan, Laisou

Today, we have added Dracarystan and parts of our enemy, West Arland, into our fair territory.

Where do you find that image of me! Such a cutie Refuge Isle

*gives a really big hug*

Chacapoya, Feu De Glace, Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Flohovistan, Pedesko, Laisou, Bellerre

Republic Of Jazz 2 wrote:What are we voting for

If you're wondering about the "regional referendum" mentioned in the world factbook entry, that has already been decided. Every time there is an embassy connection under consideration, all member states get to vote on whether or not it should happen.

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Flohovistan

Here is a friendly reminder that "Wholesome Week" ends tomorrow! Two legendary cards are at stake! You can start participating all the way up until I make the results post. If you're interested read more here!

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Uwusberg, Flohovistan, Bellerre

Refuge Isle wrote:~snip~

:D

Thank you Lulu!! tacklehugs

Also, I just want to say that I'm really glad I met all of you dorks ^_^

Y'all make life better! AND SILLIER! Much much sillier >:D

Chacapoya, New Camelot Of Avalonia, Lower French Gregballs, Narwhal, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan, Junitaki-Cho, Bellerre

Feu De Glace wrote::D

Also, I just want to say that I'm really glad I met all of you dorks ^_^

Y'all make life better! AND SILLIER! Much much sillier >:D

I'm glad I met you too! Both you (singular) and all of you (Refugia)!

Silly Quote Of The Week:

A Horse is a horse, of course, of course

Chacapoya, Feu De Glace, Narwhal, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Flohovistan

Narwhal wrote:Where do you find that image of me! Such a cutie Refuge Isle

*gives a really big hug*

Heeheehee I'm glad you like it :3

Chacapoya, Feu De Glace, Lower French Gregballs, Narwhal, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Flohovistan

The Prime Minister of East Lebatuck just challeneged me to an inturnational, public game of Chess. Little does he know that in Lower French Gregballistic noble families, girls are taught to play the King's Game as early as they used to teach them toplay the Piano in Pre-WWI Europe.

EDIT: Oh wait. This isn't about Chess. [Proceeds to nuke East Lebatuck]

Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Flohovistan, Cadenzana

Lower French Gregballs wrote:Lower French Gregballistic

A truly glorious demonym

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan

Lower French Gregballs wrote:

[Proceeds to nuke East Lebatuck]

Really putting the ballistic in Lower French Gregballistic

Lower French Gregballs, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Flohovistan

Welcome Scringombongo, Nnh Islands Administration, Enbys, Hollsedan, Utopinion, Neue Wale, Alvor, Capilerium, Greater West Siberia, Freihitland, and Atrilia to Refugia! If you have any questions about how Refugia or Nationstates as a whole works, please let us know either here on the RMB or in our regional discord (linked at the top of the page). Everyone here is super friendly and helpful ^-^

Also, if you haven't already, please consider joining the World Assembly via the button on the left sidebar of the page. If you join the World Assembly, you can become a Member State, which gives you access to our map, lets you vote in our elections, and even run for office! But don't feel obligated or pressured into doing this, what's important is that you are able to do what you want to on Nationstates, and have fun doing it. Welcome again <3

Also welcome to Emojitheft, it's always nice to have more friendly faces around!

Lower French Gregballs, Narwhal, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Flohovistan, Bellerre

Good day classroom, I'm the self declared Dominion of Classroom 2B. Yeah, that's it.... I'm administered by the School management, thus explaining why my government is a Dominion

Lower French Gregballs, Narwhal, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Flohovistan

Classroom 2B wrote:Good day classroom, I'm the self declared Dominion of Classroom 2B. Yeah, that's it.... I'm administered by the School management, thus explaining why my government is a Dominion

I'm not sure a nation can be managed by a group of managers, this might be a violation of NS's TOS, but otherwise... Yeah, I guess a Dominion is a valid type of government.

Melenavenia, Flohovistan, Classroom 2B

Lower French Gregballs wrote:I'm not sure a nation can be managed by a group of managers, this might be a violation of NS's TOS

They can, and I don't think that's what's happening here :p

Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Flohovistan, Classroom 2B

Refuge Isle wrote:They can, and I don't think that's what's happening here :p

They can? A nation managed jointly by more than one person can give them an unfair advatage in raiding/defending, Z-Day & N-Day. Especially if one person lives in Australia and the other in Europe.

Refuge Isle, Melenavenia, Flohovistan

Lower French Gregballs wrote:They can? A nation managed jointly by more than one person can give them an advatage in raiding/defending. Especially if one person lives in Australia and the other in Europe.

That doesn't really make sense. Raiding uses multiple nations, cycling a World Assembly membership between them. Raiding and defending, further, can only happen while NationStates' database is updating, which happens at 5am and 5pm UTC. There is no way that having more than one operator provides an advantage, especially when r/d success relies on how many people are present on the updating team. It is, in fact more advantageous to have multiple people on their own devices.

Joint nations are often used by regions that have a shared founder account in order to make sure the nation doesn't CTE. In many regions, there is often a shared government account posting updates or publishing government dispatches, so that they don't look biased coming from a single person all the time.

Lower French Gregballs, Narwhal, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Flohovistan

Refuge Isle wrote:That doesn't really make sense. Raiding uses multiple nations, cycling a World Assembly membership between them. Raiding and defending, further, can only happen while NationStates' database is updating, which happens at 5am and 5pm UTC. There is no way that having more than one operator provides an advantage, especially when r/d success relies on how many people are present on the updating team. It is, in fact more advantageous to have multiple people on their own devices.

Joint nations are often used by regions that have a shared founder account in order to make sure the nation doesn't CTE. In many regions, there is often a shared government account posting updates or publishing government dispatches, so that they don't look biased coming from a single person all the time.

I stand corrected.

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Flohovistan

Lower French Gregballs wrote:I'm not sure a nation can be managed by a group of managers, this might be a violation of NS's TOS, but otherwise... Yeah, I guess a Dominion is a valid type of government.

The School management is an Oligarchy

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Flohovistan

Classroom 2B wrote:The School management is an Oligarchy

The school management is usually appointed by the Board of Education or by whoever is in charge of the school, but you can run your school any way you choose! If you make it work as an oligarchy, I guess it is one.

Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Flohovistan

Wholesome Week has ended and the results are here!

Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Uwusberg, Flohovistan

Congrats to the winners <3

Lower French Gregballs, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Michelland, Flohovistan

Melenavenia wrote:Wholesome Week has ended are the results are here!

Thanks for the legendary card, comrade... My collection grows.

Lower French Gregballs, Melenavenia, Michelland, Laisou

Melenavenia wrote:Wholesome Week has ended and the results are here!

Ayyyyy congrats to the winners ^-^ And I hope you all are having a spectacular day

Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan

I'm now in the world's top 1% of international artwork.

Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Laisou

Oh, it may be a benefit to the region for me to post here that I suspect that the snapshot of your nation for Season 3 (which is used to set rarities), will be taken some time within the next few days with the cards being released possibly within a week.

This is speculation on my part, but it's reasonably well founded by precedent. If there's anything last minute that you're aiming to do in order to up your stat badges or what have you, now would be the time.

Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Flohovistan

Refuge Isle wrote:Oh, it may be a benefit to the region for me to post here that I suspect that the snapshot of your nation for Season 3 (which is used to set rarities), will be taken some time within the next few days with the cards being released possibly within a week.

This is speculation on my part, but it's reasonably well founded by precedent. If there's anything last minute that you're aiming to do in order to up your stat badges or what have you, now would be the time.

SAY SIKE RIGHT NOW

SEASON 3 CARDS ARE ALMOST HERE!

Lower French Gregballs, Refuge Isle, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Michelland

We're very close to the time it happened last, yes: https://www.nationstates.net/page=news/2019/11/28/index.html

Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan

Hey everyone, I'm calling for a closure of our embassy with Australialia. Read my opinion below and vote in the poll that shoooooooould be up in about a minute. <3

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1467200

Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Flohovistan, Bellerre

Sylh Alanor wrote:Hey everyone, I'm calling for a closure of our embassy with Australialia. Read my opinion below and vote in the poll that shoooooooould be up in about a minute. <3

I took a look at their region recently, and it seemed odd that Refugia would have an embassy with a region like that. So, even though I can't vote, I'd like to say that closure is a good call.

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan

Sylh Alanor wrote:Hey everyone, I'm calling for a closure of our embassy with Australialia. Read my opinion below and vote in the poll that shoooooooould be up in about a minute. <3

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1467200

Disappointed I wasn't first on the vote. Maybe next time.

Full support, obvs.

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Michelland, Flohovistan, Bellerre

Good day, I'm the School management

Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Flohovistan

The School Management wrote:Good day, I'm the School management

Good morning, sir. The coffee should arrive soon. We are the Lower French Gregballs, and we pride ourself on our University/Capital, St. Greg Academy In the Fields.

Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Flohovistan, Cadenzana

Sup!

Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Flohovistan, Cadenzana

Miksii wrote:Sup!

Hello

Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan, Miksii

Miksii wrote:Sup!

I already supped, thank you very much. I had fish n' chips, and then some cheese. How was your own Dinner (or Luncheon), sir? Did you (or will you be) celebrating Thanksgiving? (I don't since I'm on the other side of the Atlantic).

Melenavenia, Flohovistan

Lower French Gregballs wrote:I already supped, thank you very much. I had fish n' chips, and then some cheese. How was your own Dinner (or Luncheon), sir? Did you (or will you be) celebrating Thanksgiving? (I don't since I'm on the other side of the Atlantic).

Quick question, why do you address everyone as sir?

Lower French Gregballs, Melenavenia, Flohovistan

Sylh Alanor wrote:Quick question, why do you address everyone as sir?

Because that's how I was taught to politely address others. It is not intended to presume gender, just to convey politeness. In the army, a female officer is addressed as "sir," too.

Melenavenia, Flohovistan, Miksii

Lower French Gregballs wrote:Because that's how I was taught to politely address others. It is not intended to presume gender, just to convey politeness. In the army, a female officer is addressed as "sir," too.

Outside of that context, if very much presumes gender. I don't mean to chide, I promise, but given the high number of women and enbies in our community, it might not come across well.

Lower French Gregballs, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Flohovistan, Junitaki-Cho, Cadenzana, Miksii

Sylh Alanor wrote:Outside of that context, if very much presumes gender. I don't mean to chide, I promise, but given the high number of women and enbies in our community, it might not come across well.

Sorry, sir Ma'am. I'll try to avoid gender-specific titles when unsure, in future.

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan, Miksii

Lower French Gregballs wrote:Sorry, sir Ma'am. I'll try to avoid gender-specific titles when unsure, in future.

Thank you, and I'm sorry again 😅

Lower French Gregballs, Melenavenia, Flohovistan, Junitaki-Cho, Miksii

Lower French Gregballs wrote: In the army, a female officer is addressed as "sir," too.

Not in real life. And my wife and mother are retired military.

Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Flohovistan, Junitaki-Cho

Refuge Isle wrote:Not in real life. And my wife and mother are retired military.

Ok, I'll try to avoid it in future.

Melenavenia, Flohovistan

Lower French Gregballs wrote:I already supped, thank you very much. I had fish n' chips, and then some cheese. How was your own Dinner (or Luncheon), sir? Did you (or will you be) celebrating Thanksgiving? (I don't since I'm on the other side of the Atlantic).

I just had some macaroni so nothing special. I won't be celebrating Thanksgiving, because I'm on the same side of that ocean as you are. :)

Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan, Bellerre

Miksii wrote:I just had some macaroni so nothing special. I won't be celebrating Thanksgiving, because I'm on the same side of that ocean as you are. :)

Nice to meet you, friend. I hope you enjoy your stay here.

Melenavenia, Flohovistan, Miksii

Sylh Alanor wrote:Outside of that context, if very much presumes gender. I don't mean to chide, I promise, but given the high number of women and enbies in our community, it might not come across well.

Aah okay, I will try and remember this and try to be as gender-neutral as I can when talking to people here. :)

Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan

Good afternoon friends!! I hope all you gentleman and ladies and enbies and whoever you wanna be have an absolutely spectacular thanksgiving, or just a spectacular day if you prefer that. Remember that you’re all wonderful people, worthy of all the love in the world. You guys can do amazing amazing things, I’ve seen some of those things myself. So make sure to acknowledge that you’re special and important, today and everyday. And for thanksgiving, I’m thankful for each and every one of ya’ll and the community you’ve helped to create, the home you’ve helped to build. I know I haven’t been round these parts long, but I hope to be around for a long time more.

Aaaanyway, sappy speeches and love aside, I’ve just had myself a refreshing glass of Sprite Cranberry, what are ya’ll having today? ^-^

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Melenavenia, Flohovistan, Ambassador Bele Levy Epies

Miksii wrote:Aah okay, I will try and remember this and try to be as gender-neutral as I can when talking to people here. :)

It's lovely to meet you by the way <3

We don't celebrate Thanksgiving today in Canada either, so I'll probably just make normal food.

Lower French Gregballs, Melenavenia, Flohovistan, Bellerre

Sylh Alanor wrote:It's lovely to meet you by the way <3

We don't celebrate Thanksgiving today in Canada either, so I'll probably just make normal food.

Lovely to meet you as well. :)

Yeah I heared it was on 2 different dates. Came in handy in a trivia quiz once.

Normal food? So on Thanksgiving as opposed to normal you make abnormal food? ;)

Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan, Bellerre

Miksii wrote:Lovely to meet you as well. :)

Yeah I heared it was on 2 different dates. Came in handy in a trivia quiz once.

Normal food? So on Thanksgiving as opposed to normal you make abnormal food? ;)

I try to prepare only curses on Thanksgiving, it's true. Gotta hex out the bad vibes!

Melenavenia, Flohovistan, Indimu, Cadenzana, Bellerre, Miksii

hey guys...cheeseburgers are illegal in Atrilia... now we have to resort to green burgers made of either cultivated meat or fish and i don't like fish ;[ and there is no black market to buy cheeseburgers either in atrilia...

[help wanted: illegal cheeseburger imports]

Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan

Welcome to the veg traaaaaaaain! :D

Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Flohovistan

Alrighty, this one's a little late because I really didn't think it was going to go up for vote yesterday (it still hadn't reached quorum an hour before update) and also I just think it's really bad, lol.

Land Reclamation Regulation:

Proposal: https://www.nationstates.net/page=ga

Thread: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=491698

Uh, as I said before, I really don't like it. There are two things that make me automatically dislike a bill. The first thing is when someone creates or reuses an existing organisation or department just to offload all responsibility onto that (for example, creating a department that sets regulations so that you don't have to do that work yourself in the bill). The second is limiting your proposal by relying on the best possible reading or intentions of everyone involved. Bills regulating expansion and development to protect the economy should understand they're forcing nations who don't want to do that sort of thing, to do that sort of thing. So here are some quotes from the proposal:

0 wrote:Mandates thats a good faith effort to obtain and apply materials that cause as little environmental damage as possible for the physical stage of land reclamation must be made, unless obtaining those materials is incredibly infeasible or costly, in which case the best possible alternative must be used;

Cool, so any nation who doesn't want to do this can just say it's infeasible. Also what is "a good faith effort" and "as little environmental damage as possible" and how are those vague terms going to be enforced?

0 wrote:Clarifies that if the potential damage caused can and will be mitigated to a reasonable level, the land reclamation project may proceed;

What is a reasonable level?

After this, we get into the usage of a previously-established organisation within the World Assembly, the EWSA (hey, that looks familiar :P). The ESWA is tasked with issuing permits to land reclamation projects that would otherwise violate the proposal only if:

0 wrote:not proceeding with land reclamation will severely imperil the health of a nation’s population; or

not proceeding with land reclamation will cause greater environmental damage than doing so;

I'm sure the pattern I'm drawing is clear. These also are not figures or numbers, they're relative limiter statements. What counts as "severely imperiling the health of a nation's population"? Is this saying that, if not expanding into the ocean means people are stuffed into the city, that such a path should be taken instead of expanding the city further out in the other direction? Can anyone just make a claim that oh no, they've totally checked into other possibilities?

Also what kind of environmental damage is going to be caused by not expanding into the ocean and harming marine ecosystems? Can we get some examples?

0 wrote:Mandates that land reclamation projects that are issued permits as a result of clause 5a must cause as little environmental damage as feasible, and prohibits land reclamation projects from proceeding if they are denied a permit by the ESWA.

Again, "as little environmental damage as feasible" means nothing. It's a completely nothing phrase that anyone can get around by saying they just aren't capable of mitigating more damage. There's really just no point to this getting to vote, and no reason for it to pass. I'm for this sort of bill if it actually did anything, lol.

Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Flohovistan, Honeydewitopia, Junitaki-Cho

Good writeup. That's what jumped out at me when I looked it over: it's toothless. I'd rather see a series of metrics to measure the impact of development projects, not a list of effectively optional requests.

Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan

Good day everyone,

it's a bit late to talk about Z-day, the annual zombie event. I am doing a survey for an article for a regional newspaper on what well-performing regions had in common. So lets get to the questions:

How would you rate your region's Z-day performance, on a scale of 1 to 5?

Did you have something like central nuclear command, and did people follow it a lot?

How populous was your region last Z-day?

Any Additional Answers are welcome and needed ^-^

Goodbye and have a nice day!

-Somebody.

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan

Some Random Interviewer wrote:Good day everyone,

it's a bit late to talk about Z-day, the annual zombie event. I am doing a survey for an article for a regional newspaper on what well-performing regions had in common. So lets get to the questions:

How would you rate your region's Z-day performance, on a scale of 1 to 5?

Did you have something like central nuclear command, and did people follow it a lot?

How populous was your region last Z-day?

Any Additional Answers are welcome and needed ^-^

Goodbye and have a nice day!

-Somebody.

0.5

Pedesko wrote:0.5

Weird thing to say.

Some Random Interviewer wrote:Good day everyone,

it's a bit late to talk about Z-day, the annual zombie event. I am doing a survey for an article for a regional newspaper on what well-performing regions had in common. So lets get to the questions:

How would you rate your region's Z-day performance, on a scale of 1 to 5?

Did you have something like central nuclear command, and did people follow it a lot?

How populous was your region last Z-day?

Any Additional Answers are welcome and needed ^-^

Goodbye and have a nice day!

-Somebody.

It would be inappropriate if I didn't say it was 5/5 considering that we cured and locked the 116-strong region in about six hours. This was coordinated on the discord server with Operations Councillor Chacapoya commanding targets in the chat so members could participate in the missile brigading.

Last year the region had 21 members at the time of Z-Day and was cured and locked in five hours.

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Flohovistan, Dia Hedera, Cadenzana, Bellerre

Some Random Interviewer wrote:Good day everyone,

it's a bit late to talk about Z-day, the annual zombie event. I am doing a survey for an article for a regional newspaper on what well-performing regions had in common. So lets get to the questions:

How would you rate your region's Z-day performance, on a scale of 1 to 5?

0, I forgot about it.

Did you have something like central nuclear command, and did people follow it a lot?

How populous was your region last Z-day?

Any Additional Answers are welcome and needed ^-^

Goodbye and have a nice day!

-Somebody.

Melenavenia, Flohovistan

Elenaraghaenaris wrote:0, I forgot about it.

Rating the rest of us a 0/5 because you forgot about the event happening seems a bit unfair to the rest of us who spent six hours clearing the region and not having a single death.

Some Random Interviewer wrote:How would you rate your region's Z-day performance, on a scale of 1 to 5?

Did you have something like central nuclear command, and did people follow it a lot?

How populous was your region last Z-day?

Any Additional Answers are welcome and needed ^-^

Goodbye and have a nice day!

-Somebody.

Basically the same thing Refuge Isle said above, I'd give us a solid 5/5. Like she said then, we had a spectacular Z-Day, clearing the region quickly of all zombies and not having any deaths. Chacapoya coordinating through the Discord who we were going to collectively target and moving down the most populated list was smart and every one of us who participated worked together really well. I'm actually extremely proud of the people who played, because I think our result was pretty spectacular <3

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Melenavenia, Flohovistan, Dia Hedera, Cadenzana

Some Random Interviewer wrote:Good day everyone,

it's a bit late to talk about Z-day, the annual zombie event. I am doing a survey for an article for a regional newspaper on what well-performing regions had in common. So lets get to the questions:

How would you rate your region's Z-day performance, on a scale of 1 to 5?

Did you have something like central nuclear command, and did people follow it a lot?

How populous was your region last Z-day?

Any Additional Answers are welcome and needed ^-^

Goodbye and have a nice day!

-Somebody.

It went so well that despite being absent almost all of Z-Day I had my entire population cured for me before I even made my own Cure missiles! (Forgot to add my rating lol 5/5)

Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Michelland, Flohovistan, Dia Hedera

Yeah Z-day wise, I didn’t participate, never been my thing, but I did watch the region work their butts off to get us to the spectacular finish we made it to, truly a spectacular effort :D

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan

Welcome Island Of Euphoria, Classroom 2B, The School Management, and Threnodie to Refugia! If you have any questions about how Refugia or Nationstates works, please feel free to ask either here on the RMB (regional message board) or in our discord server, which is linked at the top of the page. Everyone here is super nice and helpful and we'd love to be able to say hello ^-^

If you haven't already, please consider signing up for the World Assembly on the left sidebar. By becoming a World Assembly member, you qualify to become a Refugia Member State. Member States can submit applications to get on our regional map, vote on embassies and referenda, and run for office. But the most important thing is that you just do as much as you want to; don't feel obligated to join in all the extra things that we do. We want to help you find things you enjoy doing and get you set up to where you can have the most fun possible while you're here, and if that's just chatting while answering issues, that's entirely cool.

Welcome again <3

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Narwhal, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Michelland, Flohovistan, Indimu, Bellerre

Welcome!

*distribute free cookies to new members*

Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Michelland, Flohovistan, Indimu, Bellerre

I'm getting a bit self-conscious that all of my GA takes are becoming too similar, but here we go anyway lol.

Protected Working Leave

Proposal: (https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=cretox_state_1606540208)

Thread: (https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=489404)

I mean, I guess the most positive thing I can say about this is that it's a good subject to protect? But, like pretty much everything I've read from Cretox lately (and a few other GA authors who have been spamming proposals), it's weak and highly exploitable. I'm getting a bit frustrated by what I see to be a decline in quality of GA resolutions over the past six or eight months, especially since they keep getting away with it due to an overwhelming number of voters who are happy to rubber stamp things.

So let me stop complaining and show what I'm talking about, I guess:

0 wrote:(1,b,iii) the guaranteed ability to return to the same or a comparable job after the conclusion of paid leave, should their employer reasonably be able to provide such;

0 wrote:(2) Declares that member nations must provide workers who request such with a reasonable duration of paid leave to the extent necessary to adequately service any of the following conditions:

0 wrote:(4,a) give their employer reasonable notice in the event of a foreseeable birth or adoption; and

Reasonable seems to be the new watchword for the GA, as it's the most acceptable stand-in for actually providing any figures or solid ideas. The word is never defined and no limits are placed on this. It's so easily exploitable by the company to just say certain amounts of time aren't reasonable, and the text of the proposal supports that. The fact that people in the forum seem to focus all their negative attention on things they IC don't care for and let dozens of proposals with massive, glaring loopholes through mostly uncontested is grating.

Chacapoya, Narwhal, Melenavenia, Flohovistan, Junitaki-Cho, Indimu, Bellerre

Sylh Alanor wrote:-snip-

Perhaps a new theme is that leaving glaring loopholes will increase the chance of getting passed?

Chacapoya, Flohovistan

Sylh Alanor wrote:I'm getting a bit self-conscious that all of my GA takes are becoming too similar, but here we go anyway lol.

Protected Working Leave

Proposal: (https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=cretox_state_1606540208)

Thread: (https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=489404)

I mean, I guess the most positive thing I can say about this is that it's a good subject to protect? But, like pretty much everything I've read from Cretox lately (and a few other GA authors who have been spamming proposals), it's weak and highly exploitable. I'm getting a bit frustrated by what I see to be a decline in quality of GA resolutions over the past six or eight months, especially since they keep getting away with it due to an overwhelming number of voters who are happy to rubber stamp things.

So let me stop complaining and show what I'm talking about, I guess:

Reasonable seems to be the new watchword for the GA, as it's the most acceptable stand-in for actually providing any figures or solid ideas. The word is never defined and no limits are placed on this. It's so easily exploitable by the company to just say certain amounts of time aren't reasonable, and the text of the proposal supports that. The fact that people in the forum seem to focus all their negative attention on things they IC don't care for and let dozens of proposals with massive, glaring loopholes through mostly uncontested is grating.

I don't have a crazy lot to say about the GA proposal, but I think that clause 2 is adequately written to provide paid time off. IMO it would have been better off if it was worded slightly more broadly, but I also know that it's on a subject that people are a little less interested on legislating on because of the (arguably dying) concept of national sovereignty in GA resolution votes.

I also think that, for whatever the rest of the problems the resolution has, clause 3 is pretty substantially positive and I was surprised to see that it hasn't been covered previously. So basically, although I do agree that Cretox should be banned from using the word "reasonable", it doesn't create as many problems as it solves, and it's unlikely anything else would have the motivation to be written on the subject. So I've lodged a vote of For.

Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan, Junitaki-Cho

Hey everyone, though I very much regret doing so, I'm calling for the closure of our embassy with Taiwan. Read more about my opinion below and give a vote above. If you have any thoughts or feelings on this, please feel free to discuss it in the RMB or the server.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1469160

Refuge Isle, Melenavenia, Mediumville, Junitaki-Cho

Refuge Isle wrote:-snip-

These are good points. I can see the logic in giving some leeway due to Cretox being the only person who would be interested in writing this. I'm not sure if it's enough to overcome my great fatigue at the fact Cretox is writing everything, however :P

Certainly I'm feeling less against now that I've seen some arguments for the proposal. I just wish he'd never use the word reasonable again.

Lower French Gregballs, Refuge Isle, Melenavenia

Sylh Alanor wrote:Hey everyone, though I very much regret doing so, I'm calling for the closure of our embassy with Taiwan. Read more about my opinion below and give a vote above. If you have any thoughts or feelings on this, please feel free to discuss it in the RMB or the server.

I fully support this closure. The facts presented in your argument are accurate and the embassy is unnecessary when there is no activity to speak of.

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Mediumville

I think we should stop closing embassies. At the rate we're going, we'll have barely any embassies left.

Flohovistan wrote:I think we should stop closing embassies. At the rate we're going, we'll have barely any embassies left.

Would you prefer we have embassies with problematic and/or dead regions just to keep our numbers up? :P

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Melenavenia

Sylh Alanor wrote:Hey everyone, though I very much regret doing so, I'm calling for the closure of our embassy with Taiwan. Read more about my opinion below and give a vote above. If you have any thoughts or feelings on this, please feel free to discuss it in the RMB or the server.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1469160

Voting in favour because I would prefer the region have a few close friends than many relationships that don't mean anything.

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Junitaki-Cho

Sylh Alanor wrote:Would you prefer we have embassies with problematic and/or dead regions just to keep our numbers up? :P

You may view these things differently, but I view NS embassies as treasures, a sign of how influential and known you are. I personally believe people shouldn't get rid of embassies, but what's one vote against nine? I will vote against it nonetheless.

Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris

Flohovistan wrote:You may view these things differently, but I view NS embassies as treasures, a sign of how influential and known you are. I personally believe people shouldn't get rid of embassies, but what's one vote against nine? I will vote against it nonetheless.

Vote as you please, but regions and embassies aren't stamps to collect. They are communities of people. Some of those communities are dead or evolve to have values that go against ours. An embassy collector with five hundred embassies has zero influence in this game. One respectable region with solid opinions, good IP content, and fifty votes at the world assembly, much more.

We do not rely on other regions for our reputation, we make it ourselves.

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris, Junitaki-Cho, Cadenzana, Bellerre

On top of what Luca said, it's also important to realise that by opening up embassies with someone, we're giving them access to our RMB as well. If a region becomes toxic or problematic, their members could very easily spam our board. Same for dead regions where the founder isn't around to oust whoever might move in.

Being choosy with our friends is not only a positive to our image (there's nothing special about a region with 20 embassies if 15 of them haven't had activity in a year), but gives our Ops Councillor an easier job :P

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Refuge Isle, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Junitaki-Cho, Bellerre

I believe voting on closing embassies should be decided on a case-by-case basis, not by an inclusive "the more the merrier" policy. I voted against closing one of the previous embassies we have closed, when I was not convinced that that specific embassy needed to be closed. But I see no point in holding on to embassies with dead regions.

Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris

You all are right. I will just keep my opinion, but I acknowledge yours.

Lower French Gregballs, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris

Hi everyone! I guess right now might be a nice time for some good news regarding our foreign embassies. This month's Embassy Update for The Leftist Assembly is finished. The nefarious plot friendly international relations are going very well.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=uwusberg/detail=factbook/id=1469310

The highly classified data publicly-available information I've gathered has actually given me a few ideas. Do y'all have any interest in doing an Among Us game night like TLA sometimes does?

Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Antinios, Michelland, Flohovistan, Pedesko, Laisou, Bellerre

Uwusberg wrote: Do y'all have any interest in doing an Among Us game night like TLA sometimes does?

Sounds fun, so I'm in!

Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris, Michelland, Flohovistan, Mediumville, Dia Hedera, Laisou

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Written by Refuge Isle.