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Refuge Isle wrote:If there are not any challenges within the next two days, I will accept this candidacy per RRS 8.(b) reg. irregular appointments to Council absences.

I challenge Chacapoyas candidacy, I myself place my name upon the candidacy sheet and I believe its time I myself too give back to refugia, I can't stand the appaling nature of people such as Omegaforce and others and I wish to be able to take a place in government of refugia in order to take charge and assist refugia as the Operations Councillor! I speak for the trees in their native language of Wucelapan and I believe The trees are with me, although if Chacapoya does gain this seat the trees will kneel to them.

Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor

Post self-deleted by Chacapoya.

Subadent wrote:Well, Omegaforce was banned, my instincts were correct

Oh noo...

Still has at least two alts up, but keeping it clean so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I saw that self delete, can't hide it forever 👀Chacapoya

Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor

Chacapoya wrote:Oh noo...

Still has at least two alts up, but keeping it clean so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Damn it you beat me, and i doubt id even gain the position

Subadent wrote:I saw that self delete, can't hide it forever 👀Chacapoya

Bad formatting, easier to restart :P

Ooooh :3 an election!

Given that the Ops Councillor is defined as having responsibility over "developing and executing strategic operations to use and expand the Region’s influence, internal and external threat assessment, and maintaining the registry of Member States." (RRS 6), what are your -for lack of a better word- pitches on how you'd approach those responsibilities? Your flavour of councilloring, as it were. Chacapoya, Subadent.

Chacapoya, Refuge Isle

To the Glorious and Rainbow loving people of Refugia,

I the gay tree Subadent hereby decree that if I become the Operations Councillor I shall be sure to work toward an alliance between Refugia and other regions with similar ideals, I shall be sure to deal with all threats as needed be it a case or raid they will be judged justly, and finally I shall maintain the registry of Member states by asking how we can do better in our lovely little region.

Kindest Regards,

Subadent Speaker of the Trees and their language Wucelapan

Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor

As Operations Councillor, I would strive to ensure unity in our region, making sure no members feel unsafe or unwelcome, and to help build a sense of community both on and off the RMB.

Another important facet of this would be to curtail actions of nations with ideals counter to ours within our region, ensuring we reach our environmental goals as well as keeping offensive groups from derailing connections in the region.

As far as external issues, I believe we could start to become a more active group on the international stage, with optional participation in defense and liberation actions, thus building goodwill and an awareness of our region. I would also like to have the option to have member nations propose embassies in the RMB after tourist trips, in order to further our connections!

Since Refuge Isle’s successful WA resolution and our participation in Z-Day, we have seen a massive growth in population, with a majority of nations that have joined being amenable to the region as a whole.

And the last issue, security. We have just encountered at least two nations that were not great fits for our region. An important part of this position would be to occasionally review new nations to ensure that they would be a good fit here, and if not, point them to a region where both they and we would be more comfortable.

-Chacapoya

Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor

Subadent wrote:Damn it you beat me, and i doubt id even gain the position

If you don't there's always the next round of elections in a month and a half. ;)

Since there is now competition, we will have an election to determine who will fill the vacant Ops position for the remainder of the term. My best interpretation of the RRS says that the nomination period will last for two days, beginning when Chacapoya announced their candidacy earlier today at 7ish PM GMT. The election will be scheduled for Nov 21st - 25th and will take priority over any other referendum or poll.

According to Natalie, who is the acting examiner of text things, there are currently eight Member States in the region, which are identified to be:

1: Athidill

2: Chacapoya

3: Merzbach

4: Ortharion

5: Refuge Isle

6: Russia Number 5

7: Subadent

8: Sylh Alanor

Only Member States may run in elections and cast valid votes. If your nation is not listed, please consider being stationary in this region with your legendary World Assembly nation for seven human daytimes.

Free People of Arda and Tie-Dye are presently on track to become Member States when the residency time is met.

Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor

- The election poll is now active -

Chacapoya and Subadent are the identified candidates for the Ops Councillor vacancy.

Welcome to Refugia, Scrungos, Big Payno, and Nabonasar. I hope you enjoy your time here!

Chacapoya, Subadent, Sylh Alanor

Beat me to welcoming the new nations :P

Chacapoya

Welcome, Huedonia!

Sylh Alanor

you all beat me to a welcome

Sylh Alanor

Welcome Tapir Island, Adalitha, Tire Land, and Southeast Gary!

If you're a WA nation, make sure to give out endorsements and, if you're not already, register! As long as you don't have another nation in the World Assembly, you can register and start working toward becoming a full member state. This will give you plenty of extra regional benefits and allow you to start gaining notoriety. That being said, even if you just want to hang out and enjoy the game for now, that's also fine. We're always available through the RMB or by telegram ^-^

Refuge Isle, Adalitha

If you arrived with any sanity, that will change.

I'm just waiting for Merzbach to come back and be like. What.

Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor

Hi people what’s up how’s it going.. idk how to play this game i joined u all bc ur the most fun ppl to send me a telegram... everyone seems so serious i just want my clan of noble foot fetishists to thrive 😔 anyway just wanted to say hi :-)

Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor

Podophilia wrote:everyone seems so serious

Don't worry, garbage posting is 83% of what I do. Sometimes the law makes me be serious, but after I can go back to normal XD

Welcome to Refugia, here is some ketamine.

Sylh Alanor, Podophilia

Refuge Isle wrote:Welcome to Refugia, here is some ketamine.

thanks bro ✊😤 also.. can someone lmk how i can start a second nation? wanna start a full on anarchist nation and go wild on the side while i look after my foot utopia

Podophilia wrote:thanks bro ✊😤 also.. can someone lmk how i can start a second nation? wanna start a full on anarchist nation and go wild on the side while i look after my foot utopia

You can sign out in the upper right and create a new account like you did before. This is a list of all NS government types and what you need for them:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Updated_NS_Graph.svg/1024px-Updated_NS_Graph.svg.png

So an anarchy is maximum social, political, and economic freedoms. If you make one, watch out that you don't accidentally restrict something and make a government XD

Sylh Alanor, Podophilia

Welcome Podophilia and Dawlat Ebrahim Ngera! It's nice to see our little region growing so quickly 💗

Remember, Podo, if you register for the WA with two nations, you'll be permanently banned from joining it again. So make sure only one of your nations is in it :) but other than that, having multiple nations can be very fun.

Podophilia

On advice from the Councillor of Culture, I have adjusted the regional flag of Refugia.

Government documents may have their colour schemes adjusted following this change.

Welcome to the region Festdcannes and also welcome back to NationStates. Member State status, the ability to run for office and vote, is automatically assigned to all WA nations that reside within the region for a week.

Sylh Alanor, Arkijukistan

Hello everyone, read my national Constitution, you'll like it

Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor

It was certainly an interesting read :) I'm fascinated by the idea of a dictatorship where the people still have power; I don't think there's a problem with it, I've just never seen it before. Thanks for sharing (and also welcome to the region!).

Also welcome to new nations Virandon, Nueva Makati, and Secessionist Texas. Nice to have you with us 💗

Secessionist Texas, Virandon

Hey everyone! What do you all think of my country?

Arkijukistan wrote:Hey everyone! What do you all think of my country?

It's strange, but this whole region is strange, so it's not out of place.

Hello Regulius, I needed more orange in my life.

Agreed with what Refuge said. You fit right in with us, I think. Except for Kuviran, that nation's a monster.

Chacapoya, Kuviran

Hey let’s not get too down on dictatorships here now...

Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor

Chacapoya wrote:Hey let’s not get too down on dictatorships here now...

We're gonna be honest, we think we're only a little bit worse of a place to live.

Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor

Welcome, Jectilan :) I'm happy to have you here with us!

Jectilan

Jectilan wrote:We're gonna be honest, we think we're only a little bit worse of a place to live.

IC, I have an entirely benevolent tyrannical dictatorship.

Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor

Sylh Alanor wrote:Welcome, Jectilan :) I'm happy to have you here with us!

Happy to be here. This region seems to fit us well.

Sylh Alanor

Refuge Isle wrote:IC, I have an entirely benevolent tyrannical dictatorship.

The WA isn't so sure about that it seems.

Any suggestions on how we can make our economy... Y'know... Functional?

Sylh Alanor

Jectilan wrote:Any suggestions on how we can make our economy... Y'know... Functional?

That'll take some time, unfortunately. Socialist nations start off economically destititute and it's up to us to figure out how to get them out of that hole. Over time, your economy should right itself as long as you're not going out of your way to make it harder :P

Jectilan

The economy system is kinda complicated. My best guess about how it works is that you can have capitalism or socialism as primary policies. With capitalism, economic freedom helps out, with socialism, business subsidisation helps out. In either one, your economy can be powered by any industry or series of industries. For me, it's mostly information technology and book publishing. If I can make either of those go up, it's good for my economy. Meanwhile, my agriculture is like -24, so if anything makes that go down, it affects me none. So being consistent with the specialisations you want to have will help out.

Sylh Alanor, Jectilan

Also- Is there a way to retract policies? I'm starting to regret the whole capital punishment thing.

Sylh Alanor

I'm afraid not, but fortunately there are generally follow-up issues after a while that give you the option to change your mind. Give it a little time and soon you'll be able to reverse that policy.

Jectilan

Yep, all policies have one or more issue that reverses it. Capital punishment has seven issues that reverse it that I'm aware of.

Sylh Alanor, Jectilan

Following the poll to fill the Ops vacancy, Chacapoya has been appointed the Councillor of Operations for the remainder of the term.

Congratulations!

Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor

Welcome Hopfullygood and The Spanish Dominion. ¡Bienvenidos a Refugia!

Chacapoya

Thank you! I hope to serve Refugia well in my term as Operations Councillor, and I promise to give it my all!

Sylh Alanor

What do you guys think of my new flag? I felt like the red was a bit too stunning, the vertical center needed a merging stripe, and I needed just a touch of more symbolism while preserving everything I already had.

Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor

I very much like the new colour balance.

Sylh Alanor, Jectilan

Chacapoya - I'm honoured to have you as a coworker :) I know you'll do great. And I hope Subadent will run for a seat (or multiple seats) during the next elections in January! Same with all of our member states, of course. And remember that anyone can propose a new position be enacted, you just have to submit an amendment draft like I did before, and if/when it gets seconded, it'll be put to an official vote.

Jectilan - I really like it! There was a surprising amount of red among our flags for a while there, and I think orange is a neat and underutilised colour.

Chacapoya, Jectilan

For the map application - what is "culture group"?

Sylh Alanor

Jectilan - Basically it's a cultural unanimity shared between countries. We don't have enough data points yet (after all, there are only five countries currently on the map and only two of those border one another), but once we do, we can make extra map overlays showing religions, currencies, and culture groups. It's essentially a method of allowing interaction between players. For example, so far we have:

Refuge Isle - Refugi

Sylh Alanor - Old Elvehn

Áthidill - Nvá

Ortharion - Hawaiian

Chacapoya - None selected

Depending where your people are located, you can take on one of these pre-existing groups or make a new one! If it's good, it's possible that it'll bleed into nations that are established around it :)

Refuge Isle

hello

Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor

Ochkibaba wrote:hello

Hi there, welcome to our archipelago!

Also - No longer a basket case economy! Just fragile!

Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor

Jectilan wrote:Also - No longer a basket case economy! Just fragile!

I will remain a basket case anyway as a show of solidarity :derp:

Hello Ochkibaba~

Sylh Alanor

Ochkibaba reminds me of Honks old motto Jek Wan Ba

Sylh Alanor

Refuge Isle wrote:I will remain a basket case anyway as a show of solidarity :derp:

B-But you're the polar opposite

I'm confused

Sylh Alanor

Jectilan wrote:B-But you're the polar opposite

I'm confused

What Refuge is trying to say is that they are the basket case, although I'm an even larger basket case WUCE WUCE LAPANLOI

Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor

Hello Ochkibaba :) welcome!

Also welcome to Hongmin-Guo!

Subadent wrote:What Refuge is trying to say is that they are the basket case, although I'm an even larger basket case WUCE WUCE LAPANLOI

What? Both of your economies are great; I wish I was that stable.

OH NO

In trying to improve my economy I conjured income inequality

I was in the top 4%, now just top 11%

Might want to keep capital punishment around after all in case this gets any worse

Don't fret over the changes in the short term, everything balances out in the end. Right now you're getting huge swings because your nation is still new. In time, you'll find that everything will end up just about where you want it to be.

Nationstates is a game that has to be played over a span of months.

Chacapoya, Jectilan

Sylh Alanor wrote:Nationstates is a game that has to be played over a span of months.

For stats players anyway. You can develop your nation IC as much as you want without any time restrictions. Some players don't pay any attention to stats.

Meanwhile, I obsess over stats and cards XD

Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Jectilan

Hey friends!

I just wanted to let you know that I've crafted a new dispatch! This is the ideally permanent home for the regional maps, so that we can always know where to find our information. Also, welcome Subadent to the map club! ❤️

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1287372

Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Secessionist Texas

[floatleft][box][centre][size=150]Refugia Map Application[/size][/centre][hr]

Name: Jectilan

[hr]

Capital: N/A

Culture Group: Refugi

Religion: N/A, too secular lmao

Colour: Orange, preferably similar to the orange used in our flag

Desired Location on the Map: The little island just to the south of Refuge Isle

Size of Nation: However many zones that little island is[/box][/floatleft]

That seems to have broken? Maybe I just can't copypaste

People who are on the forums would i add a NS roleplay in the NS section or the RP section

Sylh Alanor wrote:Hello Omegaforce. It's nice to have you in the region :) Let me see if I can answer your questions in a satisfactory way.

1. We have multiple openly LGBT members, and the tag is intended to show that we are welcoming to all LGBT-identifying people.

2. As stated in our Refugia Revised Statutes (our central governing document, see the top pinned dispatch for more information), we hold elections every few months where any member state (a nation who is a member of the WA and has been in the region for more than ten days) can stand for any officer position. We're always looking for more people who are interested in taking on some responsibilities!

3. We're not a hookup region and this isn't really a site aimed at that sort of thing. It isn't really appropriate to have that sort of message here. Entering a region and immediately revealing your thirst isn't the best look.

I hope this, especially the answer to point 3, doesn't turn you off toward our region (well, in a very specific way I hope it does but not in terms of general platonic interest). You seem very interested and involved and I hope that continues and you can make friends here and we can all move forward and make the world better!

Wait he tried too hook up? Im fine with it just not in NS. You know?

New Dylanation wrote:Wait he tried too hook up? Im fine with it just not in NS. You know?

Hmm imma be sus of you

Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor

New Dylanation wrote:Wait he tried too hook up? Im fine with it just not in NS. You know?

You only joined NS yesterday, you immediately replied to a message from Syl Alanor as if you knew it was there right after you had joined the nation...

Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor

One of Omega's alts had the name Dylan. This is 100% him.

Chacapoya

Subadent wrote:You only joined NS yesterday, you immediately replied to a message from Syl Alanor as if you knew it was there right after you had joined the nation...

Yep, that's a puppet. Omega was DEATd, his other puppets were not, but I think we're still in the camp of "shouldn't be in Refugia".

Sylh Alanor

Wow, that's a whole lotta drama

*sips ocean water*

Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Ochkibaba

Jectilan - That's my bad, thanks for being an accidental guinea pig and I'm sorry that you were an accidental guinea pig. I've passed along your information and fixed the dispatch/application template. If you want a capital, you don't have to have one on NS yet to justify having one on the map. If you don't want a capital city, that's also fine.

Chacapoya

Sylh Alanor wrote:Jectilan - That's my bad, thanks for being an accidental guinea pig and I'm sorry that you were an accidental guinea pig.

For what? Should I be concerned? I think I'm missing something.

Also, I think I'll stick with no capital for now seeing that we're trying to be a true democracy with a completely even spread of power. But can I add one later if I want?

Sylh Alanor

Jectilan - No worries, lol. It was just that you used the template I released, but that template wasn't actually correct. Because I saw it break when you used it, I was able to fix it. And of course you can add a capital later on, there's absolutely nothing to worry about :)

Jectilan

Sylh Alanor - Oh, no problem at all! I'm happy to help turn the wheels of progress.

Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor

Welcome Muertos Ii to Refugia! If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask.

You should be on the map now Jectilan ^-^

Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor

I have received a proposal, submitted by Sylh Alanor and seconded by Chacapoya regarding a change to the Refugia Revised Statutes. Per RRS 4. and 4(b), I have initiated a referendum on the matter, which will last seven days.

The full text of the proposal is available here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1284810

The current roster of Member States legally entitled to vote is:

---------------------------

1: Athidill

2: Chacapoya

3: Free People of Arda

4: Merzbach

5: Ortharion

6: Refuge Isle

7: Russia Number 5

8: Subadent

9: Sylh Alanor

10: Tie-dye

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The roster of residents who will achieve Member State status by the end of the vote, provided they maintain their WA status and continue residing in the region:

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1. Big Payno

2. FestDCannes

3. Jectilan

4. Podophilia

5. Southeast Gary

6. Tire Land

7. Virandon

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Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Virandon

Hi everyone, I'm quite new to this, and was wondering if someone could explain to me how being part of a nation works, and some of the more detailed parts of the game. Thanks :)

Sylh Alanor, Kuljituk

Ochkibaba wrote:Hi everyone, I'm quite new to this, and was wondering if someone could explain to me how being part of a nation works, and some of the more detailed parts of the game. Thanks :)

Recently, I wrote a basic How Does post that talks generally about how NationStates works. That post is here: https://calref.cc/index.php?topic=52.0

I think, for right now, most of your questions are going to be in the "What is a NationStates?" spoiler.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask them here in the RMB or in that thread.

Sylh Alanor

People of refugia, there is a place where the activity is found, but keep silent for it is a refuge for the outcasts of the internet. The forum Calamity Refuge found at https://calref.cc/index.php, On this forum, you will find roleplay, fun discussions and areas to speak with other Refugi especially to us Nationstates members there is a specific roleplay for us! come along have some fun.

Sylh Alanor

Subadent wrote:People of refugia, there is a place where the activity is found, but keep silent for it is a refuge for the outcasts of the internet. The forum Calamity Refuge found at https://calref.cc/index.php, On this forum, you will find roleplay, fun discussions and areas to speak with other Refugi especially to us Nationstates members there is a specific roleplay for us! come along have some fun.

Essentially me wanting more people to rp Nationstates with

Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor

Hi Kuljituk, welcome to Refugia :)

Subadent- I've been brainstorming a post that I might work on tonight. My nation's leader Silvehn (see below dispatch if at all interested in her) has had a lot of backstory developed but there's nothing for me to do with her, lol. Also Sylh Alanor and Subadent have a lot in common from national goals and the like, so I think they'll be happy allies.

Sylh Alanor wrote:Hi Kuljituk, welcome to Refugia :)

Subadent- I've been brainstorming a post that I might work on tonight. My nation's leader Silvehn (see below dispatch if at all interested in her) has had a lot of backstory developed but there's nothing for me to do with her, lol. Also, Sylh Alanor and Subadent have a lot in common from national goals and the like, so I think they'll be happy allies.

There's a whole coronation event that will be occurring in Subadent.

What do you need help with?

And yeah Suba, I actually read the post as soon as you posted it 😛

Sylh Alanor wrote:What do you need help with?

And yeah Suba, I actually read the post as soon as you posted it 😛

I gave it an update as it didn't feel quite proper Miss Local Moderator of RP :333

Sylh Alanor

Idk why but im sus of Kuljituk

they joined sent me weird tg' and then left???

Sylh Alanor

They appear to have gone to our puppet storage region.

Subadent, Sylh Alanor

They asked me to join their "govment" soon, after proposing a trade deal for "4 $ Billion!"

Subadent literally overthrows all the Admins of Calref

I mean what

Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor

Also I am not surprised that Secessionist Texas went to joint the Union of Corrupt Dictators.

Saddened, but def not surprised.

Refuge Isle

Chacapoya wrote:Also I am not surprised that Secessionist Texas went to joint the Union of Corrupt Dictators.

Saddened, but def not surprised.

"departed this region for Confederation of Corrupt Dictators. " is never really a phrase I want to see in the activity list XD

Chacapoya

heheheh They all thought me saying i was going to overthrow all the admins was a joke

lalalalalalala nothing here lalalalalalalalalalalaa

Sylh Alanor

Kuljituk wrote:Who?

For what it's worth, there are no actual people in the Refuge Pocket Dimension. It's a storage region, mostly for my card farming alt accounts :p

Subadent, Sylh Alanor

Suba, do I have to add you to my...dossier?

Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor

Chacapoya wrote:Suba, do I have to add you to my...dossier?

Yes

Chacapoya

Assembled with Dot's Region Saver.
Written by Refuge Isle.