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I see. Research is a given. Don't want to write up a resolution that isn't backed by evidence.

A regional government? Seems interesting.

ああ!

Apologies for this but what are some ways that I may get my economy to moderate levels without capital measures?

I see. Thank you for answering.

うまくいけば、この地域はたくさんの幸運を受け取るでしょう！

Everyone here is nice.

Welcome, Kariforunia, Giant Redwoods, and Imahgen, to Refugia! I hope you each enjoy your stay. If it applies to you, please pay attention to the rest of this message.

Refugia aims to be a friendly, laid-back community, which is open to players of all skill levels. Nations who wish to become more active in the region, however, should consider joining the World Assembly (WA). WA nations are able to vote on international law, and receive exclusive benefits within the region, such as the ability to vote in regional polls and elections, get a spot on Refugia's map, and even run for office when elections come up! If you're interested in joining the WA, check out this article.

If you'd rather just chill with us, that's perfectly fine as well. We have an active Discord server, an offsite forum, and frequent discussions on the regional message board (RMB), which everyone is welcome to participate in!

If you have any additional questions about the region or how NationStates works, feel free to leave them here, on the RMB. If you're interested in joining the Discord or offsite forum, look for the links at the top of Refugia's World Factbook Entry (the big text box at the top of our regional page).

Once again, I really hope you enjoy your time here, and look forward to seeing more of you soon.

Hello

Araine is now ranked in the top 5% of the world for Eco-Friendliness!

Wake and dream, everyday...

Thanks to everyone for all the support! It's been a huge help.

So tonight Condemn The Communist Bloc [https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=kazakhstan_3_1614661479] goes up for a vote. This two line proposal is not normal or useful and so does not warrant a great deal of writing. The details of TCB - an NSLeft affiliate - aren't really worth pouring over. It's a referendum which doesn't meet the site's normal standards and mostly reached vote out of spite. This writeup from the Discord server articulates it well:

I will of course also be voting against. The way this proposal has created so much awful trolling and sometimes straight up cruelty in the SC forums is not something I’m chill with, not to mention the resolution is barely existent and completely meaningless.

Hey friends! Apologies in the delay in getting this to you. May I present XKI's February Update Report! Give it a read to find out what we've been up to over in the Islands! Thank you all and have a wonderful rest of your day. :D

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1513835

Definitely didn’t accidentally suppress Wisch’s post instead of liking it for a moment there... sweats nervously

(Sorry Wisch!! It’s a great report!!)

Hello Refugi! I am overjoyed to announce that the vote to create an embassy with The East Pacific has passed! Hopefully this is this start of a long and prosperous embassy between our two wonderful regions!

Aaaaaaah oh my god Araine your flag is so prettyyyyyy

I get lost in the stars when I'm with you...

Advice from my uncle: No matter what, always stick to the truth, to what you feel deep inside is true.

Welcome, Bapaving, to Refugia! I hope you enjoy your stay. If it applies to you, please pay attention to the rest of this message.

Refugia aims to be a friendly, laid-back community, which is open to players of all skill levels. Nations who wish to become more active in the region, however, should consider joining the World Assembly (WA). WA nations are able to vote on international law, and receive exclusive benefits within the region, such as the ability to vote in regional polls and elections, get a spot on Refugia's map, and even run for office when elections come up! If you're interested in joining the WA, check out this article.

If you'd rather just chill with us, that's perfectly fine as well. We have an active Discord server, an offsite forum, and frequent discussions on the regional message board (RMB), which everyone is welcome to participate in!

If you have any additional questions about the region or how NationStates works, feel free to leave them here, on the RMB. If you're interested in joining the Discord or offsite forum, look for the links at the top of Refugia's World Factbook Entry (the big text box at the top of our regional page).

Once again, I really hope you enjoy your time here, and look forward to seeing more of you soon.

Gonna be hanging around this rmb for a little while, since right now Forest is going throught stuff

When you ask people for something - especially something that won't be hard for them to do - they'll usually just do it.

Literally the best advice I've ever gotten on anything

We're having a bit of a mourning period, as the founder was pretty beloved (though I didn't get to meet them myself). The main problem is that our constitution was somewhat not very prepared for the founder to CTE.

It's all gonna be fine though, I just like the good vibes from Refugia so I'm hanging out here.

You could say I'm taking...

... Refuge

Meant to have this up a bit earlier, but here's some info on Prohibition on Honor-Based Violence, set to go to vote tomorrow morning.

Proposal: https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=greater_cesnica_1615053244

Forum thread: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=499231

Finally, something we can talk about on a more mechanical level. Honor-based violence refers to a practice seen in some countries and cultures around the world, in which a person who is said to have disgraced themselves/their family/their community may be punished with violence or death. The specific definition used in GC's resolution is "Defines "honor-based violence" as an act of violence perpetrated against an individual by or at the direction of a relative or any other member of a community, due to the perception that the individual has brought shame or dishonor upon their family or community, or has otherwise violated an honor code," and this seems reasonably constructed. It goes on to prohibit both the act of honor-based violence and the use of such a defense in criminal proceedings, and requires that this violence be treated at least as seriously as non-honor-based violence in prosecution.

As it goes, it's pretty solid. I haven't seen any obvious issues in its construction. Potential concerns might include whether it covers violence against groups - which it does, so long as they can reasonably be viewed as groups of individuals - and whether it's duplicating existing legislation, which, surprisingly, it doesn't seem to be. At the moment, I find it agreeable, but I'd appreciate some other opinions in case I'm overlooking something.

Thanks for the welcoming message! I do hope to stay here for a long time!

ありがとうございました!

Your flag is marvelous as well!

This was discarded by mods before you shared it here. You can see why in the forum.

Best wishes of course to Owlograd, I hope they get better really soon.

Oh, sorry. I didn't mean it that way, he is a really great person. I'm kind of new to this, sorry again.

The proposal didn't make it anyway.

I get lost in the atmosphere, the atmosphere alive...

An'eth'ara friendos, friendas, and friendndndnds,

I'm very happy to present the newest entry in our World Assembly Development Program, complete with new card lotteries and giveaways. This time, we've got two exceptionally high-value cards and a plethora of fun and/or pretty ones besides. Make sure that you're out there endorsing everyone!

Take a look below and please feel free to ask any questions you might have about what things mean.

-Emily

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1517113

Random lottery in the discord server, which is how the previous winners were selected. When Luca was doing these, she would post the full results and chat log in the RMB afterward, which I will do as well.

Here's a link to her post on the last lottery results: https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=42680400

Great! Will you join the World Assembly so I (and others here) can endorse you?

The Lower French Gregballs celebrates reaching 4.5 billion citizens. We have endorsed every WA member nation in Refugia (unless we overlooked someone), and are happy to be in Refugia!

Welcome, Faarisle, Duolian, Pa Na Le Fatua, Lunerbehrgm, Hiramstania, Qizen, Fyla, Anira, Punctum, Poptarta Commune, Ekmek Pain, and Asrowe to Refugia! I hope you all enjoy your stays. If it applies to you, please pay attention to the rest of this message.

Refugia aims to be a friendly, laid-back community, which is open to players of all skill levels. Nations who wish to become more active in the region, however, should consider joining the World Assembly (WA). WA nations are able to vote on international law, and receive exclusive benefits within the region, such as the ability to vote in regional polls and elections, get a spot on Refugia's map, and even run for office when elections come up! If you're interested in joining the WA, check out this article.

If you'd rather just chill with us, that's perfectly fine as well. We have an active Discord server, an offsite forum, and frequent discussions on the regional message board (RMB), which everyone is welcome to participate in!

If you have any additional questions about the region or how NationStates works, feel free to leave them here, on the RMB. If you're interested in joining the Discord or offsite forum, look for the links at the top of Refugia's World Factbook Entry (the big text box at the top of our regional page).

Once again, I really hope you enjoy your time here, and look forward to seeing more of you soon.

IWWの曲が頭の中でループに引っかかっている

The American IWW Song "Popular Wobbly" is stuck in my head

助けて

(I should have posted this a few days ago)

Message from Verdant Haven:

Greetings, friends and allies of Forest!

In last night's major update, beginning the 7th of March 2021, Forest's founder and longest resident, Errinundera, CTE'd. Though we are unsure of the causes, and hope that all is well for the person behind the name, this event was not entirely unexpected. For some time we have seen the signs, and were able to lay out all the steps and safeguards necessary to ensure an orderly transition to Forest being a stable region, led by our WA Delegate and our Forest Keeper. Because of the nature of Forest's democracy, this change will not significantly impact the long-term function of our government.

As we speak, the necessary Constitutional procedures are being undertaken to make this transition smoothly, and we do not anticipate any significant interruption or alteration to our status, alliances, commitments, or activities. In accordance with Forest law, long-ago written for just such an occasion, a password has been placed on the region while we complete this process. This is a temporary state of affairs, and we anticipate that within a short period of time, the necessary votes will have been completed to allow the lifting of this password, and our long-awaited transition to the next government.

We thank you for your ongoing friendship, and look forward to many years of continued growth together.

Verdant Haven

Forest Keeper of Forest

We're just a casual hangout community. We don't have any official rp outside of some set dressing elements (which include robots, to be fair). You're always allowed to be here no matter your nation's IC setting, as long as you're not being harmful to others.

Question of the DAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!

What really makes you angry?

Well like I said, we don't have an rp. I was meaning if you're causing ooc harm, like rping a fascist state.

Close to facism, minus the genocide of minorities

When people try to make others feel unequal. We are all humans, why can't they just see that. I'm serious, I am not an angry person normally but that really gets my blood boiling.

I think they weren't aware of the "no doubleposting rule". I didn't know about it myself when I first joined

Nothing, I am a being of pure light whom'st has never felt anger

Actually scratch that, being hungry makes me really angry, otherwise known as hangry

I mean, they were like a bad parody of a stalinist... So they'll fit very well in the communist bloc*

shots fired

*this joke does not represent MSR's true opinion on the communist bloc

There really isn't a lot out there that makes me angry, but people trying to control me certainly gets things moving in that direction.

I think my political leanings are mostly centred around whether or not the quality of the writing, and the integrity of the message supports, the SC as an institution. To that end, Xoriet is always capable of putting something together to reinforce people's faith in the SC and add to the body of writing contained within it. The resolution makes a compelling case about the justification for why the target should be condemned. Additionally, the target is an ancient nation whose days of glory and controversy are long past (even the event with Osiris was only a month into my first founding), so one can be reasonably assured that the resolution is not aimed to inspire people in their charge, but recognise them for playing the role of the villain for years and years past.

This, to me, is the definition of when a condemnation ought to be used.

Anyone who abuses another living thing. I don't care if it's a dog, a cricket, or a human being. If it has a brain, it suffers, and unless someone has a good reason for making an animal suffer (like food or their own protection/wellbeing), I will legitimately hate them for it.

People spreading misinformation and treating it as solid fact. Whilst refusing to open to the truth.

それはいつも私を幸せよりも少なくします

millennials complaining about all their issues

me who plays nation states:

give them to me

Thank you for helping keep the RMB a safe and open space for all Indimu & Sylh Alanor!

People who make fun of others when they are super passionate about something. I don't care if what you like is 'nerdy' or 'weird', I love that you love it! Nothing makes me angrier than knocking others down just because they are cool enough to actually like something.

半真面目な質問をしてもいいですか?

There's a running gag amongst leftists in the US about the conservative elements and that they mostly give little explanation as to why they dislike socialism.

Besides the Cold War, are there any other reasons socialism or even communism is so opposed nearly globally? Or just in the US?

I deeply apologize for asking this question since it is a semi serious question.

Well, socialists have been under heavy negative propaganda since socialism started existing. It's no coincidence that Karl Marx's The Communist Manifesto - considered one of the founding texts of modern communism - literally begins talking about how parties accuse each other of being communists. This is easier to do in well off nations, because it's way easier to think about a socialist revolution when you're starving than when you're living a comfortable life (hence why the first large-scale socialist revolution occured in Russia, not in england or something). I live in an emerging country in south america, and even though they're way less radical today than they were in the 70's, the largest communist party here is larger than any communist party in the US could dream of being.

If you're scared to ask this sort of thing here in refugia, you can always jump over to Forest for a bit to discuss politics or history or whatever else. We often talk about more ""serious"" subjects there, and since Forest has an embassy in Refugia you won't even need to move there to use our rmb. And of course, we always welcome visitors ^^

ありがと

To those who answered.

Good points were made. With conditional situations and the lack of mainstream democracy in the past socialist or communist states.

I hope that if any new socialist states form, they take a JCP approach and have democracy as a core value.

繰り返しになりますが、お答えいただきありがとうございます

There's no need to worry about asking a serious question. The conversation is welcomed.

Everyone else makes good points, but one of the key elements to anti-socialist/anti-communist thought is US interventionalism. The United States has meddled in the affairs of so many countries where top officials viewed the rise of socialism/communism as a concern, and typically ruined the stability and sustainability of those countries in the process. Then the world stage looks at the deposed socialist personality as an example of how that can never really catch on. I think we'd have more functional examples of socialism at work and more evidence for its adoption if not for all that.

I love everything about that answer!