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Heya,

I'm putting together a proposal to modify the RRS. That proposal is here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1522370

Leave your thoughts about these changes below, this proposal is still in drafting.

I don't immediately remember that recommendation, but it was likely an error.

I think it's best, following comment from Humansanity in the chat, to have it changed since the current RRS does not consider the concept of outside influence seizing the delegacy. So, my thinking is that someone who is the delegate should only be able to be so if they're a Member State who has been here for a bit. Similarly, under a new election system, someone should ideally not be able to see a vacancy election, jump into the the region, with eight hundred of their closest friends, and reach Member State status before the end of the election solely to vote-stack for an outsider. Both of these are undesirable, and changing this term solves both concerns.

Done.

This accurately summarizes my concerns and proposes a suitable solution, so it sounds good to me

Hey all,

This is Araine. I've been locked out of my nation (says the password isn't working, but it's the same one I've been using for months, and I've had it written down). Not sure when I'll be able to get back on, but hopefully soon. I'll operate on this account for the time being. Hopefully, that's alright.

I'm sorry to hear that.

You should be able to reset the password with the email you used when you joined the World Assembly, if you still have access to it.

Welcome back :D

Hey everyone! Just wanted to point out that today is the last day to endotart up in the region for a season 2 Galway-Dublin! Tomorrow I'll be giving them out to the top 20 endorsers in the region. Check out the list of people to endorse (should be updated) in this linked dispatch!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1517113

Hello! This is a statement from the office of World Assembly Affairs. Following a slew of poor legislation in the WA, we're expecting things to pick back up in the spring, with more proposals worthy of attention. As I noted at the beginning of this term (or the end of the last one? I'm not sure.), the department needs more horsepower to ensure we can get to everything to which needs gotten. To this end, I'm excited to invoke RRS 6(f)(iv) and welcome Emojitheft/Humansanity as Security Council Correspondent. HS has much more knowledge and aptitude for the SC than I do, and it's great to have him as a part of the community. He'll be writing Refugia's IFV statements regarding Security Council matters. I'm looking forward to working together to grow Refugia's reputation for in-depth analysis and critique, and I hope everyone will welcome him accordingly.

Thank you! I actually made this flag a while ago when I wanted the ambassadorship in Refugia, hence the rune

Heya friendos! We have just completed this month's endotarting competition, with myself and Refuge Isle abstaining from prizes. I kept counting results while I was updating everything, even though this technically cut off as of minor update this morning. As of now, I've got enough copies to give out 24 S2 Galway-Dublins, to everyone listed below in bold. I've gone ahead and included the results for everyone who has endorsed at least one person, so if you want to see how many you missed, click on the spoiler tag.

Thanks everyone, I will be sending out the cards as soon as this is posted. Congratulations to those who qualified for a card, and good luck next time to those who didn't.

-Emily

Sylh Alanor - 72 (abstained)

Refuge Isle - 72 (abstained)

Liphia - 72

Indimu - 72

Floofybit - 72

Chacapoya - 72

Sueloc - 71

Republic Of Central Darfur - 71

Melenavenia - 71

Laisou - 71

Imbault - 71

Golden Gateway - 71

Feu De Glace - 71

Elenaraghaenaris - 71

Araine - 71

Typica - 70

Koayo - 70

Cadenzana - 70

Tre Bia Land - 69

Tovenia - 69

Nerdy Tangent - 64

Lower French Gregballs - 64

Parapollacis - 63

Narwhal - 62

Junitaki-Cho - 58

Ongmonnif - 57

[spoiler]Pantala Pyrrhia - 53

Michelland - 49

Vystrania - 45

New Filippe - 43

Cidaris - 33

Kariforunia - 28

Fracoda - 26

Ellamaa - 26

Nottinghaven - 25

Ideotopia - 25

Valdonland - 21

UwUsberg - 20

Turtle IslCoalition - 20

Ergenstien - 20

Charcuterie - 19

Eurdrea - 17

Lambflakitobia - 14

Wankdeed - 13

Nekhuser-Ra - 8

Rolliland - 7

Whorth - 6

Skanatavria - 6

Lunerbehrgm - 6

Threnodie - 5

Gamelan - 5

Fatholi - 5

The Vermillion Islands - 4

Kallictora - 4

Atiomia - 4

Vikoland - 1

Scottlaine - 1

Medecion - 1

Imzhou - 1

GadzTopia - 1

Calexic - 1

Astvaria - 1[/spoiler]

INVASION

can you elaborate please?

Well the way I see it is that no one can stop progress. People tried that during the Industrial Revolution as machines replaced artisans and manual labor, and they failed pretty badly. I personally think we should fully embrace automation, and that there’ll always be more jobs in the future for people that we can’t even think of. Plus, with robots doing a lot of hard or menial work, standards of living will go up, and we could even implement something like a UBI, although that would require a lot of government regulation.

It's not really a weird question, but rather a very interesting one.

Automation is gonna happen weather we like it or not, the real question is who is it gonna be in favor of. A socialist automated world could lead to people spending less time in jobs they don't like and more time in self-development and community development. Think about it, how much faster would science advance if researchers spent less time worrying about jobs they do only to earn money and more time researching their actual areas of interest? Same goes to art, architecture, etc... But that's only if the products of automated labor go to the people, and not to capitalists.

If automation happens under capitalism (which is what has been going on now), people will lose their jobs and livelyhoods, world poverty will go up dramatically, we're all screwed. One of the consequences of automation in these circumstances is that people without jobs don't have money, and people without money can't buy the products produced by automation. So at some point, the short term profit from automation would lead to long term losses because... Well... Capitalists depend on other people with jobs spending money on their products.

The issue of automation is something socialists should discuss more, because it's gonna be a very big issue really soon... As Sylh Alanor said, a UBI would be a possible solution for this problem. EDIT: Pantala And Pyrrhia also mentioned UBIs

Shoulda let the robots vote...

WE'RE MANUFACTURING THE VOTERS!

An ideal situation would be let the robots vote after they've been checked for viruses and hacking things.

アメリカの社会民主党の政治家.

Bernie Sanders and AOC(I believe that's what people refer to her as.) are known in the US and serve as a face of socialism in the US. I use that sentence with shakiness as those two aren't really socialist, are they? They seem a bit more social democracy then fully socialist. I may be entirely wrong however.

Personally, I think they are a slow start for the US to socialism.

What does anyone else think of the two?

(I'm aware of the organization they belong to, Democratic Socialists of America and their goals.)

Hey everyone! I've finished March's Eco-Report, only about 17 days later than I wanted to write it! Check it out here and let me know if you like it or want to see anything different in the future ^-^

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1524894

これは簡単には答えられない質問です.

A online friend of mine has recently been demoralized about globe socialism. They have been asking if socialism really can win or if socialism will ever happen in a large scale movement again due to anti socialist movements.

This question is not a easy question but more of an opinion one.

Is socialism inevitable?

質問に返信する価値がないと思われる場合は、これに返信する必要はありません.

I hate to be that guy, but whether socialism is inevitable depends necessarily on your conception of socialism. The European welfare states would be seen by rabid libertarians as socialist, while more or less any Marxist (except perhaps some market socialists) would consider them liberal capitalist states. Apologists of the Chinese government would claim that it is socialist, making socialism not only inevitable but already present, and so on.

We already live in a world of limited resources, though technological advancement makes previously unusable materials into new resources (in the sense that they are now integrated into the mode of production; that they are now exploited and given value). In my opinion, the question is what world governments are weak enough to be pressured into distributing wealth at any given time to a larger share of the population, since governments that are weak enough to be overrun by a revolution (and at the same time remote enough to produce a new system without foreign interference) are nowhere to be found nowadays, I think.

I’m seconding this!

Welcome, Indo Scythia, Peralta Nation, The Outlawed Mountains, Nivla, Daerrow, Podria In Refugia, Bored2, Shipping Fan, Cramstrelle, and Socralato, to Refugia! I hope you all enjoy your stays. If it applies to you, please pay attention to the rest of this message.

Refugia aims to be a friendly, laid-back community, which is open to players of all skill levels. Nations who wish to become more active in the region, however, should consider joining the World Assembly (WA). WA nations are able to vote on international law, and receive exclusive benefits within the region, such as the ability to vote in regional polls and elections, get a spot on Refugia's map, and even run for office when elections come up! If you're interested in joining the WA, check out this article, and make sure to endorse our delegate.

If you'd rather just chill with us, that's perfectly fine as well. We have an active Discord server, an offsite forum, and frequent discussions on the regional message board (RMB), which everyone is welcome to participate in!

If you have any additional questions about the region or how NationStates works, feel free to leave them here, on the RMB. If you're interested in joining the Discord or offsite forum, look for the links at the top of Refugia's World Factbook Entry (the big text box at the top of our regional page).

Once again, I really hope you enjoy your time here, and look forward to seeing more of you soon.

Welcome back :D Do you remember what region you lived in last time?

can't recollect. i was never very active in forums iirc. my old state was Kinta Valley. ring a bell for anyone?

oh wow

yes, looking forward to being in a more serene region....

Welcome, Ciumbuleuit-Bandung, Pacrosia, New Aquidneck, and Hedgie Hogg, to Refugia! I hope you all enjoy your stays. If it applies to you, please pay attention to the rest of this message.

Refugia aims to be a friendly, laid-back community, which is open to players of all skill levels. Nations who wish to become more active in the region, however, should consider joining the World Assembly (WA). WA nations are able to vote on international law, and receive exclusive benefits within the region, such as the ability to vote in regional polls and elections, get a spot on Refugia's map, and even run for office when elections come up! If you're interested in joining the WA, check out this article, and make sure to endorse our delegate.

If you'd rather just chill with us, that's perfectly fine as well. We have an active Discord server, an offsite forum, and frequent discussions on the regional message board (RMB), which everyone is welcome to participate in!

If you have any additional questions about the region or how NationStates works, feel free to leave them here, on the RMB. If you're interested in joining the Discord or offsite forum, look for the links at the top of Refugia's World Factbook Entry (the big text box at the top of our regional page).

Once again, I really hope you enjoy your time here, and look forward to seeing more of you soon.

I found this a good place for resources on the latter:https://twitter.com/RojavaIC

私には社会民主主義の友人がいます.

How can I convince someone who is a social democracy to a socialist? Are there any major cons to a social democracy that could help convince them to turn to socialism?

Or should I not try to convince them since a social democracy is better then unregulated capital.

I'm trying to not have this come out as if I'm enforcing my views on one another.

It depends on what your goal is, I suppose. I'm a proponent of 'never let perfect be the enemy of good', and I'd rather have the world's baseline shift to socdem so that we can continue pushing further left. If there are socdem people out there, and that's where they're comfortable right now, as far as I'm concerned they aren't our opponents on some sort of ideological stage.

You can keep talking with them about things and even occasionally challenge them on why they believe the way they do, but I personally wouldn't push them hard into a place where they're uncomfortable. That's a surefire way of creating someone who rebounds to the right because they find leftism to be too exclusive.

Good Morning, Refugia!

Apologies for not continuing to do the question of the day, I've been a bit busy.

I'll resume asking questions of the day tomorrow :>

Workers unions would be a counter to exploitation to a certain point.

Cool event. I appreciate the randomness but I feel the winner will be decided not on actual popularity and who is the best, but rather who manages to show up the most and has the most shiny badges.

Oh heck I didn't even notice the "Best Nation" feature at the top of the region page

Gooood mornin eco-dorks!

Happy April 2nd!

I've just realized the classification of my nation in Nationstates mobile keeps switching from "Normal" to "Gay Marriage State" (I've been using the liberal theme) and just "Normal" in Nationstates Web. I am so confused rn.

I believe you can do that with Stately android app. It's a bit tricky zooming with your fingers, but it's doable

Look this is unrelated to anything anyone cares about but I just really wanna share that I made my first large-scale edit on a wikipedia article about something I had a background on/knew a lot about. I'm feeling quite proud, yes.

I had no idea about this app, than you for the info

Greetings all!

It would seem that a new SC proposal has been submitted for Commend Marrabuk

Proposal: https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=andusre_1617450832

Drafting thread: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=500069

I'm open to hearing more feedback, but I'm currently leaning in favor of the proposal.

Broadly, I believe Marrabuk is a commendable figure. Fedele's coup of our embassy partner The East Pacific included 12 months as Delegate where he strategically hollowed out and diminished activity within the region to make it easier for his group to cling to power and, if needs be (as it did end up needing to be), couping the region. Marra did about as much as imaginable in 8 months to revitalize TEP's activity and reputation, not to mention a pretty extensive career doing other things before that. The writing reflects Marra's efforts in TEP's MoFA, role playing community, FA projects during Marra's term, and his leadership of TEP as Delegate after the coup.

Some critiques of the writing raised on Discord were that some of the MoFA reforms cited in the draft were eventually rolled back. My understanding may be inaccurate, but my understanding was that the reforms were built upon, not rolledback. If someone else has additional insight or understanding about that, I'm open to it. Additionally, I think something can still be Commendable even if the future Delegate un-did the action. Another critique was of the closing line crediting Marra for building "NationStates as a whole" when most of his contributions were to TEP. I think this is valid but not alone enough to result in rejecting the Commendation.

Anyways, I'm open to input before I put together the recommendation.

Following this discussion, I have recommended a vote for the proposal Commend Marrabuk.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1528091

Good Morning! Happy Easter, and a healthy Summer!

Happy Easter!

Haven't had this many likes on an RMB post since 2017, lol

Notice:

The RRS referendum on Clerical Reform and Enhanced Autonomy was passed unanimously and was added to the Refugia Revised Statute contents and database of previously passed referendums.

Good afternoon!

Chan Island won the Forest Keeper elections.

Just wanted to drop a message here and say I hope your April is going well! Mine is going to swell because I'm getting vaccinated for COVID-19 today, which is the first day I'm eligible to get vaccinated where I live!

I took your silent likes as agreement and wrote an IFV on Reducing Microplastics, which you can find below. (And remember that you can upvote dispatches you like, that they may reach a wider audience.) It's a bit barebones, but this is a thoroughly uncontroversial vote.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1528905

The dolphins thank you!