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Region: Refugia
Hey everyone! One of my alt accounts recently posted an issue in the forum for people to comment on and recommend changes if anyone wants to check it out. It is called winter sports fans take their shot. Any criticism is greatly appreciated!
Cry, then wait for a while. Simple as that
Floofybit
I would probably start by reversing slavery 😛
Your income equality stat took a hit because your economic freedom went up and, generally in NS, more economic freedom means worse conditions for poor people. So anything that will lower that (such as installing the socialism policy) will likely come with changes that will put that back on track.
Typica, Floofybit, Everetunga-Hari, Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats, Tiralta
Another day, another way.
Typica, Floofybit, Everetunga-Hari, Tiralta
If you are poor read some telegrams or attack quit
Floofybit
What?
Floofybit, Everetunga-Hari, Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats
Hello Refugia! It's time for a World Assembly discussion post, woohoo. This one is on the in-queue General Assembly proposal, A Treaty on Time Travel.
This proposal is the World Assembly regulating time travel to try and stop things like major changes in history, paradoxes, or generally things going wrong due to time travel. A somewhat controversial idea, however, given that time travel largely doesn't exist. Some may oppose it just for this, but let's look a little deeper.
As an aside, the agency name is great.
The first few clauses are reasonable, making sure time travel doesn't fall into the wrong hands and making sure that future TEMPO informs current TEMPO of time travel knowledge that current TEMPO doesn't but should know. Section 4 is where things get a little funky. It reads:
A clause like this is necessary for a proposal such as this one. While 4c is a little vague and subjective, I don't think it's a dealbreaker.
Sections 5 and 6 are sensible, prohibiting time meddling and paradox-making.
Sections 7 and 8, however, are where things go south. They read:
The problem with Section 7 is that it could be interpreted to be an ex post facto law, meaning it charges perpetrators of actions for doing that action even before it was illegal. These are illegal under WA law, and rightfully so. Section 7 could mean that breaking future resolutions is not permissible, which is unfair if you don't know what those future resolutions are.
The problem with Section 8 is that TEMPO may not exist in that separate timeline/alternative dimension, so there would be no authority to report to. Oops. You could also say that "immediately" has no meaning because time has no meaning in this proposal, although I'm less convinced with this one.
One small quibble is using "should" or "obliged" which might be interpreted as non-binding, but IRL should is binding in many places, so this concern probably has no weight.
What are your thoughts?
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Haibaria, Fel Vudos, Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats, Tiralta, Djorner, Fantasize
I think this is in poor taste. Not in its sentiment - Russia's acts of war on the Ukrainian people are obviously reprehensible and should be rejected - but because we're playing a dumb political sim game, and making signed in-character statements about lethal real world events feels kind of wrong. I appreciate that your heart is in the right place, and donating to the cause is great, but the manner of this post bothers me.
Typica, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Aephony, Remnants Of The Pacific, Djorner, Fantasize
I just completed an issue that had no stat effects. Weird.
Typica, Floofybit, Tiralta, Djorner
Oh, I didn't mean it in-game... I just meant citizens of our irl community... I didn't mean to cause any bad taste at all. Everything written here is coming straight from me IRL. I just didn't sign my real name. Apologize if I made some of you uncomfortable. I can change the wording if you'd like.
Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Everetunga-Hari, Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats
You shouldn't have to change the wording just because one guy couldn't understand, you already did what you needed to do, you explained what you meant well and within a professional manner.
Floofybit, Haibaria, Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats, Djorner
Hey, is every nation of Refugia included in the map?
Oh and talking about Russia, are your country's doing manifestions IRL or is just mine?
Floofybit, Djorner
Only the member states that have applied to be on the map.
Typica, Floofybit
Our country has not been able to force grandfather to leave for 20 years. Do you think it's so easy to get him to stop the war?
Ok... that must have been in the time I was offline, because I don't know a thing about this
It can't be both an OOC/IRL statement *and* signed as the "Councillor of Culture", which is an inherently IC position.
Delta Vega Iv, Sylh Alanor, Everetunga-Hari, Tiralta
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Polushia
Welcome, Straston, Gotham Union, Unkada, Bunkit Timah, Straston, Warsilia, Desten, Swizek, Smed Peop, Mityana, Liveral, Vicannity, Khe Stat Finsoniania
It's great to have you! Here's a few tidbits to help you get settled in the region.
Refugia is part of a larger community known as Calamity Refuge, (or CalRef), and we have a discord server, here: https://calref.network/chat/ and a forum, here: https://calref.cc/index.php. We hold movie nights, stream games, have game nights, or just hang out and vibe in the discord, while the forum has spam games and non-NationStates RP. If you're interested in getting to know our chill and friendly community, I suggest giving those a look.
If you haven't yet, consider joining the World Assembly. (click that link to learn more about what exactly that means.) Joining the World Assembly is an easy way to get started in Refugia and help us out by "endorsing" other nations, like our Delegate. Also by joining the WA and sticking around, you'll become a member state, which means you can vote in our elections and get a spot on our regional map.
If you'd like more information on the region and what all we do, you can read about it in the dispatch below, or just ask here! We're happy to answer any questions you have.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1449847
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Narwhal, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Minskievian Refugees, Remnants Of The Pacific, Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats, Tiralta, Polushia
While it is true that they put the title of their position in Refugia, it is still, just a title, I can see how someone could get possibly confused between in-game and IRL comments it is not necessarily harmful to someone reading, plus we are all just here to have fun and interact, are we not? :)
The map has been around since late 2019, so you were technically offline lol.
Narwhal, Junitaki-Cho, Everetunga-Hari, Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats, Polushia
Wouldnt hurt to try. Besides, everyone says Youll fail. And you know what happens? I succeed and I prove them wrong.
Everetunga-Hari
confidence my dude, one of the most important things to have
Delta Vega Iv, Pangeodrea
Confidence is good, yah. But I like to be humble and I dont overestimate myself. Overconfidence is a deadly foe.
Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Everetunga-Hari
We don't really want official position statements on IRL things to be done with our Refugia branding. Tying one to the other creates that implication. Making a statement from your account is one thing, but signing it with your position adds another element to that. This is why most people aren't allowed to make political statements of support in work uniforms, too.
Delta Vega Iv, Chacapoya, Typica, Araine, Junitaki-Cho, Everetunga-Hari, Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats, Tiralta
you, you would fail
Hello everybody
Typica, Narwhal, Sylh Alanor, Vikoland, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Allokyus, Everetunga-Hari, Fel Vudos, Israbia, Jadshe
ayo
Narwhal, Sylh Alanor, Vikoland
Hello
Typica, Narwhal, Sylh Alanor, Floofybit
Hiii friends! How was your day?
Typica, Sylh Alanor, Vikoland, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Everetunga-Hari, Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats, Tiralta, Polushia, Israbia
Mine started one hour ago. Very good till now
Narwhal, Sylh Alanor, Floofybit, Everetunga-Hari
Definitely would fail.
oh come on man!
Floofybit, Polushia
meh it kinda blows
Narwhal, Floofybit
Not that great so far... I woke up sick. At least I got good issues! 😄
Typica, Narwhal, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Everetunga-Hari, Polushia
Hope ya do better soon bud
Floofybit
How about you not put people down?
Floofybit
hmm sounds like you
Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats
I encourage people, dude.
Keep it going, and hopefully you'll breeze through it!
Let's blow it to a good stuffs!
Hey, get well soon friendo! And if you are referring to NS issues, good one :P
Have a good day to everyone else!
Delta Vega Iv, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Polushia
Today's Riddle:
Last week's got only one response but it was correct!
Here it is:
I have cities, but no houses. I have mountains, but no trees. I have water, but no fish. What am I?
Good Luck!!
Narwhal, Araine, Floofybit, Avatar Webby, Tiralta
Sounds like New Zealand
Narwhal, Floofybit, Allokyus, Haibaria, Remnants Of The Pacific, Tiralta
Post self-deleted by Remnants Of The Pacific.
Termite Hills? (random guess)
Floofybit
I'm thinking it may be a sponge.
Floofybit
Post self-deleted by Djorner.
Post self-deleted by Sylh Alanor.
Pizza Progress: I have passed the 19k threshhold!
Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats, Polushia
Ballpark, but a little more obscure and out of the box! Keep trying!
Floofybit, Remnants Of The Pacific, Tiralta
Ballpark, but a little more obscure and out of the box! Keep trying!
Remnants Of The Pacific
It's been okay, rl has been kicking me recently but today I managed to get some stuff done, and even unclenched my jaw for like 5 seconds.
Typica, Narwhal, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Djorner
To the recent proposal of the World Assembly about time travel, i, President Kal Ludenis, have a message: You will NOT stop me from introducing catgirl DNA to ancient Allokyus!
Delta Vega Iv, Narwhal, Vikoland, Floofybit, Avatar Webby, Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats, Polushia
Map? It's a Map right?
You have my full suport!!!
Delta Vega Iv, Narwhal, Floofybit, Allokyus, Haibaria
Post self-deleted by Polushia.
I shall inject pizza DNA into a T. Rex!
Typica, Floofybit, Allokyus, Everetunga-Hari, Polushia
I'll just train the T. Rex to make Pizza, I'll bring Eve the recipe
Floofybit, Avatar Webby, Polushia
I shall put tomboy dna into a femboy and see what happens :)
Floofybit, Allokyus, Avatar Webby, Polushia
Congratulations yourre our winner!!!! Everyone give Polushia a round! 👏
Narwhal, Vikoland, Araine, Floofybit, Tovenia, Minskievian Refugees, Aephony, Remnants Of The Pacific, Tiralta, Polushia
Nice. Waitting for tomorow. 😉
Narwhal, Floofybit, Minskievian Refugees, Aephony
Time travel really scares me but if when you went back in time and it created and artificial universe copy where you could study the past without consequences, that would be cool.
Narwhal, Sylh Alanor, Vikoland, Araine, Liphia, Minskievian Refugees, Allokyus, Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats, Tiralta
Hello Refugia! The Office of World Assembly Affairs has issued a recommendation against the resolution-at-vote, A Treaty on Time Travel. Read it here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1667430
Chacapoya, Typica, Narwhal, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Vikoland, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Liphia, Everetunga-Hari, Polushia
Interesting stuff, thank you for this analysis.
Typica, Narwhal, Vikoland, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Minskievian Refugees, Everetunga-Hari, Tiralta
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Floofybit, Polushia, Israbia
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Floofybit, Polushia
hello comrades
Typica, Floofybit, Everetunga-Hari, Polushia
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Floofybit
sup im sleep deprived
Floofybit
Do any of your nations have national foods?
Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Allokyus, Everetunga-Hari, Avatar Webby, Remnants Of The Pacific
I love this idea!
Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Polushia
Aephony
Bruh.
No
Try buying some Melatonin. It is the quimic your brain produces to have sleep.
Floofybit, Everetunga-Hari
My nation doesn't have a national food, but we have the Pacifican feast, which is just a bunch of local grown food served up with either your family or community usually.
Floofybit
BURRITOS FOREVER!!!
Melenavenia, Floofybit
Todays Riddle!!
"What can go up a chimney down, but cant go down a chimney up?"
Good Luck All!!
Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Avatar Webby
Tangerines ofc! Tangerine French Toast, Tangerine Pizza, Tangerine Cookies, Tangerine Tangerines, everything is tangerine!!!
Melenavenia
My national food is "Avatar Pizza," with pineapple and pretzels stirred together in great taste.
Melenavenia, Floofybit
Artillery?
Just the basic y'know. We Allokyusans are the Masters of barbecue, and we take this hobby seriously. Some of our finest chefs know how to operate a modern plasma grill and how to use the heat to make the perfect meat. Once in a year, we have the National Barbecue Day, in which we make a massive ground grill to barbecue both meat and vegetables for the vegetarians. Everybody loves meat with potatoes y'know
Melenavenia, Floofybit, Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats
A depressed chimney sweep.
Typica, Floofybit
My guess is Santa Claus. Failing that, bats.
Typica, Floofybit
Good Afternoon Refugia
Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Liphia, Everetunga-Hari, Avatar Webby
And gooodddddd mornin' to ya!
Sacred Toast, Typica, Floofybit, Remnants Of The Pacific
gooooooooooooooooddddddddddddddddddddd evening to ya'll
Typica, Sylh Alanor, Floofybit
good midnight to me :smiling_face_with_tear:
Floofybit
Smoke
Typica, Floofybit
An umbrella?
Typica, Floofybit, Djorner
Yes, we have red kibble. It's a blend of rice, mushrooms and spices.
Melenavenia, Araine, Floofybit
Hot air as it impossible for hot air to go down
Typica, Floofybit, Avatar Webby
Hello Refugia! It's time for a World Assembly discussion post. This one is on the at-vote Security Council proposal, Commend One Small Island.
Commend One Small Island is the replacement for the recently-repealed previous version of Commend One Small Island. One Small Island is a longtime Warzone delegate (in fact, the longest ever) who has put incredible amounts of work into building Warzone Sandbox, as well as introducing the Warzone Control Council to help the Warzone regions. They are also an accomplished military participant, a powerful Foreign Affairs component, a region traveler, and an artwork collector.
This proposal is undoubtedly far better than its predecessor, which is riddled with grammatical errors and jarring text. Indeed, this proposal has a great nominee and as is most work produced by Morover and Thousand Branches, a wonderful resolution that lives up to its nominee. I am in full support of this.
What are your thoughts?
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, Allokyus, The Land Named Bob, Everetunga-Hari, Haibaria, Aephony, Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats
Ding Ding Ding
Congrats Araine!!!
Everyone else had some good answers as well, but Araine was correct!!
Typica, Araine, Floofybit, Tovenia, Everetunga-Hari, Tiralta, Polushia
FULL SUPPORT!
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Floofybit, The Land Named Bob, Erie-Arcadia Of Wombats, Tiralta
100% Yes
Cheesy Tots, Typica, Floofybit, Tiralta
Generally I think that One Small Island has passed the threshold that's necessary to be recognised by the Security Council. And provided there are not glaring issues in the proposal, I'm fine with supporting it (and a Refugi author).
Chacapoya, Cheesy Tots, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Vikoland, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-Cho, The Land Named Bob, Tiralta
Hello Refugia Friends!
Chacapoya, Typica, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta, Vandermeer, Polushia, Israbia, Carinesal
hello
Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Tiralta
hi everyone :D
Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, Floofybit, Everetunga-Hari, Tiralta
hi dude
Sylh Alanor, Floofybit
should i change meh flag?
Sylh Alanor, Floofybit, Avatar Webby
Post self-deleted by Vandermeer.
Noice! I oughta give it a try!
Sylh Alanor, Floofybit
Your current flag is tootin' neat, but it's ultimately up to you.
I've got plenty stocked up and ready for order!
Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Floofybit
Nah man I think your flag looks good as is!
Delta Vega Iv, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Floofybit
is there a way to tell what type of card your nation would be?
(like common, uncommon, rare, very rare, epic, legendary)
Typica, Floofybit, Liphia, Kaelim
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Written by Refuge Isle.