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Hey all!

New to this game, been playing for about two weeks now and I'm quite liking it! Nice to have a game that I can casually check on throughout the day and make progress.

One problem. I've encountered my first International Incident and I'm wondering how big of an impact my choice is going to be.

Being part of Refugia, I'm inclined to pick a non-militarized approach, but I'm wondering if someone had any tips for these kind of things?

Yeah, that's so true. Recently I accidentally changed from "democratic socialists" to "inoffensive centrist democracy" based on a choice I made. I know I eventually will get an issue that can change me back to socialism, so don't worry, your nation is ever changing. (for new players)

Plus, I think they're cooler than regular issues due to their continuity! It feels more natural while normal issues can be something like deciding whether or not you'll rescue a hostile nation's sailors who are trapped in a submarine off the coast of your country while the next is about whether or not it should be okay to do [insert mildly annoying thing].

Hello,

This morning wherein I did nothing productive, I elected to translate the Refugia Revised Statutes into ancient Orokin. This dispatch serves as a memorial to my time which could have been spent doing anything at all useful.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1421844

Sweet! Thanks for all the tips, everyone!

Sounds neat!

Done and done!

What's wrong with sounding like a YouTuber?

How does one run for government here?

Melenavenia summed it up perfectly. If you'd like to be interim Councillor of Culture, British Columbia-Alberta, we can place you there now, and I can give you some details on how it works so that you're trained up by the elections proper next month. You can also, if you're interested, take point on the upcoming N-Day event. I've already gotten an offer for us to join Canopy, though I've recently heard that there are some changes with how that alliance is going to work this year? Anyway, all you'd have to do is talk to their people and let those of us in Refugia interested in participating know what they need from us. This would be a good thing to reference during the elections and would set you up well to hold the Ops position later on.

Of course, if you'd prefer, you can wait and run for any of the positions laid out in the Revised Statutes next month. If one sticks out to you more than the others, let us know and we'll always be happy to work with you and let you know what's expected of the job. Between us, Refuge and I have held every position save for Interior, and we also created them, so we know what's up.

and now that i've caught up on the last three weeks of RMB posts

hai guys, hope you're well <3

The anthem probably involves the rhythm of crickets chirping, the melodic sound of wind rustling dried leaves, and is lyrically yodeling so it can be conveyed across our vast forests. Also, the lonely cry of a tornado siren plays throughout.

The traditional mix also involves bagpipes, but it's largely a lost art.

Does anyone have any nations they compare their stats to in a friendly competition (that the other nation doesn't even know about, like in my case)? For me I do that with Uwusberg since we are neck and neck in a lot of different areas.

But um, UwUsberg, can you please explain this, "...mass shootings have become the new normal. Crime is totally unknown." I am confused by the conflicting points in your nation's current description.

Just out of curiosity, Sylh Alanor, I was wondering why you voted against "Restrictions Against Forced Eugenics"? I'm interested in hearing your perspective!

There are a lot of GA proposals where, I find, the worst problems are in the details or wording of certain clauses. In this case, Refuge pointed it out to me, and it's the first one:

"Forbids member states, or the governments of any political subdivision thereof, from incentivising the genetic modification of any sapient offspring prior to their birth, except for incentivising the remedy or elimination of disorders, disabilities, or diseases;"

The issue I take with it is in that ending bit, "incentivising the remedy or elimination of disorders, disabilities, or diseases;" (emphasis mine), because it doesn't go on to specify or expand on what could be counted as disorders or disabilities. There are places that consider LGBT people mentally ill, and would definitely lump them into the "disorder" category. I just really don't like loopholes that can and will be easily exploited by bad-faith actors in the world, and it seems like every third medical-related GA proposal has them. If you're going to limit your restriction, you simply cannot use broad terms like this, you have to provide definitions and/or examples. Especially in a proposal like this, which is extremely short and had the space to do so.

Thanks for the question, I always appreciate seeing interest in the decision-making! <3

Can you guys help me garner support for my new Resolution please? I need a bit over 60 approvals I believe

While I'm impressed at the quality of writing you put into the condemnation, I have to echo Refuge's concerns on this one. In fact, in the thread connected to Sil Millise's proposal, they're called out on the issues in their proposal and it's noted that the proposal will easily fail to garner enough approvals to reach quorum. Because of this, their condemnation attempt is something we can comfortably ignore. Certainly, nobody's going to care enough about it to condemn them for the attempt.

Also, you received the advice before to draft your proposal ideas in the GA/SC forums before submitting them. That's quality advice not only for grammar and rule issues you might have overlooked, but also because you get a read ahead of time for how much support you'd likely gain if you submit the proposal. Once it's submitted, it cannot be edited without being withdrawn, and you're on that time limit.

Furthermore, you can only get approvals from delegates, of which there are at most one per region. With all of the collected power of Refugia, even if we thought it was a good idea to move forward with this condemnation, we could ensure you one approval, and reasonably ask for seven more. That's slightly over one-tenth of what you require. This is another reason it's best to draft it ahead of time, to gather support before you're on that time limit and ensure you have people who are going to vote for you.

All that being said, it's rad as heck to see your interest and clear talent in the WA! I hope that for future proposals, you'll post them to the forum and work them through the system. I like your writing style and want to see more of it in the future. Also, probably best not to tag nations in your RMB posts unless you want them to see it, given that it pings their notices :P

Not the way I expected the first commendation of a nation from Refugia to go tbh. But I swear if this is like the fourth person to do multi-ing or puppet trolling in as many months I'm going to lose my mind.

By the way, what are multi-ing and puppet trolling?

I can see why that would be annoying to deal with. I would freak out if I got to know two people and then realized that they were one and the same. And the first one could get you kicked.

Heresy.

Hello as a puppet i am here to troll.

troll noises uwu

Okay sorry whoops

Dakota trolls will always be welcome~

Maybe I’ll set up an embassy here so we can stay in contact

Conifer :'

The first time is scariest, but I believe in you!

Welcome Ahknovia & Greater Bayamon! I hope you find your stay pleasant.

Welcome! I think a lot of us are more sympathetic to socialist and leftist ideologies, but I can't speak for everyone in the region. But I can't hide my government type lol

In attempting to be good at being a delegate 😅

I received a telegram today urging people to vote against the current Security Council resolution-at-vote (Repeal: Commend Evil Wolf). After doing some research, it's pretty clear that in debating the proposal, Marxist Germany (the author) decided to compare people justifying fash-bashing on NS to victim blaming in real-life cases of sexual assault. He then doubled down on trying to justify it before realising it was going against him. This is why all the major regions have voted against so quickly: Marxist Germany (MG) made these statements in the extremely public "Nationstates Gameplay" server, where most of the important NS people go. It's also in line with a lot of extremely problematic things MG has said in the past.

On top of this, which should be more than enough reason to vote against anything Marxist Germany writes now or in the future, the repeal attempt is also full of inaccuracies that were called out multiple times in the thread, and MG refused to correct or change. It's simply a bad proposal written by a bad person.

Now back to your regularly-scheduled programming.

Edit: Appending this to my previous argument as a... perhaps unfortunate proof of character on MG's behalf. When confronted with the normal responses to an apology over something extremely bad that is said, he just got angry and said this:

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=473688&p=37576657#p37576657

Thank you for the invitation

I was going to vote for the resolution when I realized that I am no longer in the World Assembly. I hit the button to join but it's been 20 minutes and I haven't gotten an email. I checked my junk box, and it's not there either. Does anyone have any reason as to why?

Thanks, I thought that they might be related. I'll try that after class.

I was honestly disappointed in myself when my nation slipped to centrist

Side note, I'm confused as to why this issue: (https://nsindex.net/wiki/NationStates_Issue_No._634) seems to act like high speed bullet trains are bad for the environment. While certainly a country without a high speed bullet train may have less environmental impacts (if it doesn't have other public means of transport) but it's a quick and effective way to transport people while not causing nearly as much of a carbon footprint as other means of transport does. Does the issue act like this because transportation beyond horseback, biking (may not actually be because of mining for the materials lol), and walking is bad for the environment no matter what? Also it doesn't specify what type of high speed bullet train it is. If it's magnetic it doesn't cause that much of an environmental impact.

Ohhh I'm dumb. You're probably right. But I still do think that high speed trains are one of the most environmentally friendly ways to have quick travel.

God, this thread currently on the SC has almost as much drama as the commendation for Christian Democrats.

No joke, I just hit page 8 and gasped out loud. I already got an inkling of them from commend CD, but my God, this person.

Honestly! I'm not sure the last time I saw that.

Every time I get an issue that involves alcohol, I just think about the fact that alcohol is banned. I know my government is corrupt, but to go as far as to drink wine in the leaders' office; I didn't know it was that bad. huh

Why is this so true

Honestly being outright dismissed by people made me think they just have the thread to excuse themselves lol.

Classic doublepost involving business!

We're very slightly early, but I'll start taking nominations between now and the second for the Councillor of Foreign Affairs, "whose responsibilities are defined as management and maintenance of the travel portals within the Region. The Councillor of Foreign Affairs seeks out ideologically-similar regions to Refugia and builds relations with them, as well as oversees construction, maintenance and withdrawal of embassies. The Councillor is expected to maintain correspondence and active ambassadors to those allied regions. Before opening or closing embassies, the Councillor will share their reasoning in a dispatch posted to the Region, then initiate a referendum pursuant to RRS. 4 to determine and follow the will of the Member States."

Presently this is held by Sylh Alanor, who is eligible to be CoFA another term. If there is more than one candidate, it will come to a vote. If there is less that one candidate, we will explode into a puffball of confetti.

Can we vote for the confetti?

🎊

Most of my issues with the current GA proposal are summed up here: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=37537753#p37537753

The weird part for me is that five exempts everything but 1 from freshwater, which means that it's fine if it causes extinction in freshwater. It doesn't make sense to me to protect one and not the other. it also doesn't make sense to me that the ESWA should provide surveys on one but not the other. Certainly it doesn't make sense to exempt clause 4 from freshwater, which is just a recommendation without any actual requirements. It seems like this resolution was not really thought through.

And you as well, friendo.

I’m doing well! It’s a beautiful day here where I live!.

Oh good to hear! I have visited Van Islands before like twice and I love it! Victoria and Torino are my favourite while Saanich is such a nice place to live in. I really miss it haha

Sadly not but I wish I was haha

I’m from India but have family and all there in BC.

Haha yea the main downtown part my was favourite!

Yea I have family in various parts of the world so it’s always fun to visit and see new places!

🥺 thank yoooou I love flowers.