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Region: Refugia
What is this emote lol
and why is it so pensive and sad
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Nadezka, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan
Uh, um, uhhhhmmmm
zoop? 👉😎👉
Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan
Ah nice. I haven't been to the actual isles themselves, but I've visited Vancouver (city) once. It was kinda nice and I liked the climate.
Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris
Victoria's great because, while it's still on the expensive side, it's so much cheaper than Vancouver, so you're getting a similar, albeit smaller, city experience without the same expense. Also there are flowers everywhere and people are generally nicer than on the mainland, at least in my experience.
Also living in a temperate rainforest climate is actually just the best :D
Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris
leaves some flowers for her friends
Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Nadezka, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, The Sul Hom Laks
Hey you best person in the world.
*puts a small cat on your head*
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Akkana, The Sul Hom Laks
OHMYGODCAT!!!!!!
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Nadezka, Melenavenia, The Sul Hom Laks
Flower vibes intensify
Chacapoya, Nadezka, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Akkana, The Sul Hom Laks
Speaking of flowers--they're pretty.
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Nadezka, Elenaraghaenaris, Akkana, The Sul Hom Laks
*distributes cats with flower crowns"
Sylh Alanor, Nadezka, Melenavenia
Omgosh even better ^-^
Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris
I wanted to give an update on why I'm recommending voting against the current GA resolution. It's really frustrating that all of these environmental resolutions have, to me, egregious oversights or loopholes. In this case, the proposal is attempting to police international waters, which it has been established the World Assembly cannot do. While the WA can police its members' actions in international waters, the proposal goes further into attempting to establish sanctuaries in those areas. It's not legal within the existing framework. I've quoted the relevant bit below.
"Establishes the Committee for the Preservation of Marine Environments (CPME) to oversee the protection of critical marine environments in international waters, with the following responsibilities:
identifying areas within international waters which would benefit from sanctuary designation due to said areas meeting any of the following conditions:
being critical to the survival and growth of a species due to serving as a major spawning, breeding, or feeding area;
serving as a habitat containing an exceptional level of biodiversity; or
containing a notable shipwreck or other site of high cultural or historical significance;
designating such areas as sanctuaries, and implementing and maintaining regulations in said areas to further the purpose for which said sanctuaries were designated;
compiling and maintaining a comprehensive report on the state and health of the marine environment within each sanctuary as applicable to the purpose for which that sanctuary was designated, to be available upon request to any member nation; and
ensuring that member nations are appraised of the regulations enacted within a sanctuary should they desire that information;"
Refuge Isle, Nadezka, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris
I see where you're coming from on this, but I don't think the resolution is technically trying to control areas outside of member nations' territories, but more like what those nations' citizens do there. So it's sort of like, you go out on a field trip and the teacher says don't touch anything in this place we don't own, etc.
For me the issue with this resolution is that clause 1 says
"Defines "regulations" as reasonable restrictions on any of the following, for the purposes of this resolution:
the types and scale of fishing and other harvesting of marine organisms;
the dumping of waste;
access to tourists and the activities tourists may undertake; or
industrial activities, such as oil drilling and refinement;"
So "any" of these things can take place and the idea of "regulation" is satisfied. In clause 2(b), this might work because it's managed by a committee and typically the understanding is that WA committees are staffed by incorruptible gnomes that always do the right thing.
However, in clause 5 it states:
"Mandates that member nations implement regulations within areas of their territorial waters meeting the conditions outlined in section 2a of this resolution, to the extent reasonable and effective in those areas;"
So, that's a clause where a member nation is told to develop regulations regarding clause 1 over their territories. Alright, the definitions state that any of those could be happening, such as saying member nations citizens may only scuba dive in sanctuary areas between 4pm and 6pm, and then the sanctuary rules are good to go.
"reasonable and effective" means nothing in clause 5, imo, because it is reasonable that I enact restrictions on scuba diving hours and I am able to do so to in order to carry out my goals effectively (restricting scuba diving hours).
2b is the only area with a vague guidance, stating "to further the purpose for which said sanctuaries were designated;" and it does not have to apply here.
This is ultimately the reason I voted for The East Pacific to vote against.
Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris
If we get rid of water we don't have to deal with this.
Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Duolian, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris, Floofybit
D:
Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Dc Kurdistan, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris
Speaking of issues that make no sense - pedestrians being hit by cars in a nation where I banned cars
Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris
The Council supports this wholeheartedly, and believe it should be taken to the logical conclusion.
Air must be made illegal and removed.
Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Dc Kurdistan, Duolian, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris
A proposal on top of this one: all matter is made illegal.
Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Dc Kurdistan, Duolian, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris
Bold, yet understated.
Full support.
Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Dc Kurdistan, Duolian, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris
What have we become
Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Dc Kurdistan, Duolian, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan
Undone
Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Dc Kurdistan, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan
Hm, oh right. Sylh Alanor has been renewed as Councillor of Foreign Affairs. This is probably for the best because people are spooky, so let's make her talk to them, yay!
I'll take applications for Councillor of Culture beginning now and ending on the 9thish.
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan
D:
Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Dc Kurdistan, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan
If all constituent atoms of the universe are scattered, you don't need to talk to anyone anymore!
Support Our Proposal to ̷̱̉̀Ę̴̢͒l̴̡͒i̵͎̖̿m̴̳̰̔i̸̖̔n̸̟͈̔ã̸͖͛t̷̩͚͊͝e̷̠͖̓ ̷̰̓M̵̠̜͊͊a̷̯̚t̸͍̙́ẗ̴̜́̚ẽ̴̗̺̽r̸̤͖̆
Sylh Alanor, Dc Kurdistan, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan, Vaastland
D:
Also I just want to say I hit quote clearly after you edited but from a screen that hadn't been refreshed, and so seeing that second line just appear scared the absolute heck out of me.
Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan
A̷̰̒ľ̴̫̇l̴͎̈́̎ͅ ̴̹̩̖̎a̸͎̩̫̓ĉ̴͓̠̙͑c̴̙̳̰̄̚ö̶̢͉́̎r̴̯͈̈́d̷͙̠͇̎͋i̷̮͐̂n̶͖̖̄̾g̵͚͊̿ ̵̱̻́t̷̹̗́o̴̤̤̠͌̈́ ̴̹̜̍̿͒p̴̝͗͌̕l̶̙̓̀͠ą̵̀̈́͝n̸̡̞̏͛
Duolian, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan, Vaastland
Lets as a collective make a draft a WA resolution to do just that. Eliminate all matter. I pledge my full support behind this resolution!
Chacapoya, Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan, Vaastland
I dont do much WA stuff but Id 100% vote to eliminate matter. No thoughts, cosmos empty. Return to subatomic particles.
Chacapoya, Dc Kurdistan, Duolian, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan
Return to monke? No! Return to s̶̢͋u̶̞͒͑̚b̵͍͐̽̊a̸͓͖̅t̵̙̏o̵̝̜͝͝m̶͓͊ì̴̝̜̓͘ċ̴̭̥̺ ̷̢͖͒̿́p̴͓͐͂̏a̵̘͐̏̽r̴͎͕̹̓̌̇t̴͛͜i̵̗̾̔c̴̻͐͛ͅl̴̰̄̓͠e̵̲̔̆ş̸̫̱͑͌
Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan
In some fun weather news, yesterday was 97(36), the high today is 93(33), the low is 33(.5), it is raining ash, and its gonna snow tonight.
Joy
Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris
What type of weather is that? And if you don't mind me asking--where does weather like that happen?
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Elenaraghaenaris
Yeah, welcome to Refugia.
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris
Its unheard of for such a cold snap here to be honest. The ash is from wildfires which are not super unusual, but the ones currently going on are unprecedentedly severe, and exacerbated by the current heatwave.
And Colorado, USA. The Rockies help create some weird weather patterns along the front range.
Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris
So in looking up articles on the incoming storms there (stay safe, by the way, I imagine that sort of snap will be hard to acclimate to), I found something interesting. The high-pressure system that's caused the extreme heat for your area moved northwest as the low-pressure one came in from the arctic. They were talking about how it was going to keep moving until it got to southern Alaska... and the graphic accompanying it showed the heat centred right on top of us, lmao.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/376529229392904195/752728592160522320/pressure_systems.png if you're interested.
Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris
I'm looking at the graphic currently, and that's... wacky.
That may also explain why my friends in Portland are having a record breaking windstorm at the moment.
Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris
That makes sense, we had some winds earlier as well. They weren't too bad, but they caused our windows to make the warbling sound.
Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris
Heaven knows who is your best ally, comments Atheism First party leader Gillian Jele, drawing a holy symbol on the cakes icing with her finger, and as it turns out, Ive got heaven on speed-dial. Increase spending on promoting Atheism and recognising our state religion, and youll have our support.
Promote Atheism and recognize our state religion. You're an atheist if you don't have a religion, but you're not on if you become an Atheist!
lol
Chacapoya, Duolian, Uwusberg
Apparently there's power outages going on up there as well so that's fun.
Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris
The custom integrations can be a right riot XD
Apparently, the shadowy cabal that runs my country has a lot of aunts and a kid.
Is it like a split custody thing or...?
Duolian, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris
Also our AQHI rating today is 10 (high risk) because of the smoke in the air. I noticed it when we woke up, which is unfortunate because it's kind of nice outside lol.
Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris
Oh I feel that!
Our AQI has been so bad the whole week. At one point visibility was like only half a mile.
Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris
Is the holy symbol the darwin jesus fish?
Elenaraghaenaris
Only been on this website for a few months and I haven't seen a Security Council issue so slanted as this Altino issue. What did they do? Or haven't done, I guess?
Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan
A number of the GCRs wanted to get the jump on this resolution by voting against early because a sticking point of this commendation is that Alti believes strongly in meritocracy, argued as a government style where competent and active people are appointed to positions of power rather than elected. Large regions with strong ideological commitments to democracy view this style as autocracy with a theoretical promise towards nepotism. Pre-Refugia, we also supported this ideology because it does allow for competent people to support a well-functioning machine. And Karma certainly demonstrates that working well in practice. The drawback is that it's very hard to bring about major reforms or some kind of revolution because power requires the endorsement of the establishment to provide.
Personally, I like Altino quite a lot and I'm entirely indifferent to the meritocracy controversy because of systems that I'm already used to, even if we don't use it here anymore. But I don't really find the arguments presented in the resolution to be compelling. TWPAF is functionally dead, receiving awards is not itself commendable (the acts behind them are), and staying in power in Osi is not really an achievement. All of these and more could have been resolved if the author had listened to feedback in drafting, but he did not.
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan, The Sul Hom Laks
Nah, the symbol looks like an uppercase U with a concave slash on the left side.
Melenavenia, Flohovistan
hello,i am new
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Dc Kurdistan, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan, The Sul Hom Laks
Welcome to Refugia!
Feel free to ask any questions you may have, the folks here are very nice.
Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan
Yeah, welcome. I'd recommend joining the World Assembly. Also, I'd recommend getting on Refugia's map.
Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris
Refugia is a great place, and I don't plan on leaving ever. You picked the right place to stay.
Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris
What programs and software do people use to make custom flags for NationStates? The EU flag is good but it's getting old, and I want a unique flag.
Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris
For most of mine, I go kinda insane and use Adobe AfterEffects. I think Sylh Alanor uses paint.net
For some basic stuff, you can just toss some ideas together on PowerPoint to play with it and then save a selection as a picture and crop
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan
I usually don't edit things, I just look something up on Ecosia 😅 or I get Luca to make it for me, because I'm lazy. But yeah, all my limited image work is through paint.net.
Also welcome Union Of Dagestan, I'm happy you're here ^-^
Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan
HI NEW
I'M DAD
Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan, Union Of Dagestan
I just used Fake Flag to create mine.
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan
I have detected additional WA shenanigans: https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=refuge_isle_1599888128 👀
In other news, I have discovered that I am technically the Ops Councillor (whoops). So, in the coming days I will be leading Refugia into the light of a thousand suns, as we all prepare for the coming nuclear apocalypse called N-Day. Check your telegram inboxes for a message to arrive sometime in the next day or two for information about how you can help the region and our allies. We can make everyone happy by protecting them from being exploded, yipee!
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan
I just made mine in a phone app called Logopit. After I made it I was given access to Photoshop and other Adobe programs through my school but I liked my current so I didn't do anything else.
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan
Thanks everyone.
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris
Oh cool, when's N-Day?
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Michelland
Hello, I just joined. What's this like?
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan
Hi, welcome! Our region is kind of just a chill place where people can feel happy and relaxed, and take part in some fun site-wide things. We've also got a link in our World Factbook Entry (at the top of the page) giving details on what the game is about and how to play, but ultimately your goal is to shape your nation through answering issues into exactly what you think is the best type of government.
If you want to get involved with larger-picture things, you can join the World Assembly via the link on the left sidebar of the page, and participate in the proposals that are up for vote every few days. We often have a little discussion in the forum here about what's up for vote and what we think, which is a lot of fun. You can also endorse me and our region will have even more power in the World Assembly. And you can submit a map application through the pinned dispatches above, and get put on our regional map!
Chacapoya, Karteria, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan, Floofybit
Welcome to Refugia. Sylh Alanor just told you what you need to know, but this region is really good.
And join the World Assembly, so you can get on their map.
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris, Floofybit
Alright. Thank you guys!
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris
i started this new account about a week ago and i am already in the top 5 percent of most authoritarianism
Chacapoya, Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan, Floofybit
oh and my currency is the iphone case
Chacapoya, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan, Floofybit
Oh cool... My nation has obscene amounts of crime.
Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris
Floofybit, you've been added to the map! It should reflect you now.
Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan, Floofybit
Epic! I will try to be as active and supportive as I can.
Sylh Alanor, Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan
Welp... I need to get the crime down in my nation. At least my civil rights and political freedoms are very good... I'm top 2 or 3% of most crime, which is kinda sad when you want a good, functional nation.
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg
I've found that if you start hard-focusing on a specific stat, you can get it up or down pretty quickly. So now that you're conscious of what you want to do, I think you'll start seeing results. The good news about the issues regarding crime is that both methods (extreme policing and extreme social policies) seem to work, just in different ways? If you want to maintain the left-leaning ideology for your country, though, I think one of those fits significantly better :P
Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan
Post self-deleted by Chacapoya.
Sylh Alanor, Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan
Looking at my Residency stats every now and then I'm surprised by how long I've been here. The time really flies by quickly, and it's not like I've been here that long at all.
Refuge Isle, Uwusberg, Flohovistan
I'm low-key amused that I'm 32nd in residency :p
Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Flohovistan
I am new here and I'm curious if NationStates has a map feature that enables us to see our countries geographically? (Maybe even Refugia)
Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan
Yeah, there's a regional map for Refugia. If you want to get onto the map, join the World Assembly.
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, New Filippe
Also, you can create your own map of your nation and put it in a factbook if you want.
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris
Yup yup basically what Flohovistan said ^-^ you can see all the links in the world factbook entry at the top of the region page. Welcome by the way!
Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan
Welcome to Refugia!
NationStates doesn't have a map function, so we made our own :3
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan, New Filippe
Basically, we're better than NationStates themselves. :) (jk)
Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan
This but unironically 😜
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan
just joined... going to out myself and admit that i mined a tiny bit of my rainforest for some uranium because my economy is in the toilet.... im sorry, i am an eco-socialist i swear !!!!! who knew running a country involved tough calls
Chacapoya, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan
Welcome to Refugia. Read the previous message board entries for tips on how to play. We're glad to have you.
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Nice Wee Place
I only just got my economy to Thriving (literal minutes ago) and I've been playing this game for a few months now. You'll get there!
Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris, Michelland, Flohovistan
Congratulations on your boundless wealth!
Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan, The Sul Hom Laks
hi
Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan, The Sul Hom Laks
Hello Caliedels, and welcome to Refugia! We have cookies on the table if you want.
Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Flohovistan, The Sul Hom Laks
Thanks, Chomp. 🤗🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪
Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan, The Sul Hom Laks
Let it be known that on this day, I created gender-neutral public bathrooms in my country. This somehow increased my Social Conservatism and Authoritarianism.
Chacapoya, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Michelland, Flohovistan, The Sul Hom Laks
Why are your people using the same bathroom? I have one for boys, one for girls, one for family, and one for people to make-out in.
Chacapoya, Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan, The Sul Hom Laks
I have a friend who is in "The North Pacific", and he says they have much more conversations. Like there is always a post from someone every minute.
Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan
Keep in mind we are 60+ in Refugia while The North Pacific has over 10 000 nations
Btw Welcome to our beautiful region
Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan, The Sul Hom Laks
Fair enough. And thank you, I decided to make my country very bad for the start and challenge my self to turn the country into almost anarchy.
Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan
Sounds like a place I wouldn't want to live :p
Every time you send a massage, it'd be lost forever in an hour. I would join a Discord chat for conversation that fast.
Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Flohovistan, Calirdels
Then look at "The North Pacific", and look at how fast they message. :)
Melenavenia, Flohovistan
Yes, I'm aware. I'm also a citizen in The East Pacific.
Melenavenia, Flohovistan, Calirdels
Cool. 😎
Melenavenia, Flohovistan
My political freedoms die once again... That one stat wavers a painful amount for me.
Melenavenia, Uwusberg, Calirdels
Free speech is for liberals
Calirdels
Welcome to all the new people <3 we've gotten a whole lot over the last couple days! Let us know if you have any questions or need anything.
Uwusberg, Elenaraghaenaris, Flohovistan
Assembled with Dot's Region Saver.
Written by Refuge Isle.