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The definition of a bio weapon is as follows: a harmful biological agent (such as a pathogenic microorganism or a neurotoxin) used as a weapon to cause death or disease usually on a large scale

My teeth can be used as a weapon and if I am diseased human being, hell--they may be used to spread disease and possibly death through said disease, however, it is not possible this could be done on a large scale. Besides, my teeth wouldn't be the biological agent itself, it would instead just be harboring the biological agent. Biological agents are bacteria, viruses, protozoans, parasites, or other infectious organisms that can be used purposefully for biological terrorism.

Canines and incisors are weapons. Molars aren't.

No, they aren't as effective as arms and legs as weapons.

We'd call a container of a nerve agent or disease a bioweapon, even though the container itself is only a vessel and not inherently dangerous. If the mouth contains dangerous viruses and bacteria, then is the mouth itself a bioweapon?

Y'all took this pretty seriously :thinking:

I'm not funny how else could I take it?

I might move my alt to the leftist assembly soon, it’s been in ba sing se since n-day

Hello,

Due to the recently passed refferendum on council election dates, etc, I am now obliged to take nominations to become the Councillor of Foreign Affairs. I will take these nominations for the next two days. Because the previous terms were unable to be completed by a change in law, there is no member who is barred from running at this time.

Although I just arrived but I nominate myself for the position! ( ꈍᴗꈍ)

I'm happy to hear that you're interested, but the nations that are able to run are member states.

Member states are defined in the RRS as a World Assembly nation which has lived with us for a week, so I'm afraid you won't start to qualify for a bit.

Here's more about our regional law, and which nations are member states for this election:

[spoiler=Big Text]https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1200707

1: Calirdels

2: Chacapoya

3: Duolian

4: Elenaraghaenaris

5: Flohovistan

6: Floofybit

7: Glentara

8: Greater Bayamon

9: Hannovria

10: Junitaki-cho

11: Kadrinar

12: Kallictora

13: Melenavenia

14: Michelland

15: Nekhuser-Ra

16: New Filippe

17: Refuge Isle

18: Site West

19: Sylh Alanor

20: The Sul Hom Laks

21: UwUsberg

22: Vaastland

23: Vikoland

24: Wankdeed

25: Weastern Nontopia

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Also obligatory reminder to all that there will be a culture election immediately following the FA election, and finally at the end of the month we'll have a councillor of the interrior election right before getting anhilated by zombies.

Maybe you can run next election...

Like I will, once I cultivate my influence here.

Interesting that I am 4th on Pacifism, but 2nd in the region for Defense Forces.

Speak softly and carry a big stick indeed...

I'd like to run if that's an option for me! I want to learn a bit more about how to be involved in politics in this region! Thanks!

Hi there, I'm Antinios from The Leftist Assembly. Seeing that Refugia has proceeded on voting whether to open embassies with us, feel free to ask me anything about TLA.

Influence isn't really a stat that you can increase quickly. The only way to higher it is by getting endorsements, which give you about 2 points a day each. I have 6 endorsements, so usually, I get 12 points a day.

Thanks Chacapoya and Refuge Isle for the endorsements !

It's those top-tier ops adventures saving the world

Or strategically destroying it. Hooray Refugia

Welcome to Perama, Lura Enim Omnia, Hylida, New Caesars Legion, and Great Unity! If any of you have questions about Refugia or Nationstates, please let us know either here or on our discord, everyone is super friendly ^-^

Also, I know some of you already have World Assembly nations here, but for those who don't, you should totally consider joining! By being a WA nation in the region, you qualify to become a nation state, and nation states can not only vote in our elections/on our referendums (which is happening a lot), but can get on our neato map! It also opens you up to being able to interact with the World Assembly by voting on site-wide issues.

Welcome :) to get put on our map, you have to be a World Assembly nation and reside in the region for seven days. Once those two things have happened, you'll be considered a Member State, and be allowed to send me a map application.

If those two messages weren't sent like a minute apart I'd be very confused.

Yep, that's fine.

Unless your nation is nazi themed, etc, you can live in Refugia. We don't enforce any gameside stat requirements in order to live here. This is because you can have a different RP with your nation, or just not be a stats/issue player.

Just like Chacapoya is a dictatorship in character, but is a helpful force and someone we like talking to out of character, and that doesn't stop her from being Ops Councillor.

Players can get ejected from Refugia for harassing other players, flaming, abusing embassy connection, etc. But that's all related to actions their human controllers take. If someone answers an issue in the way I wouldn't, they're still safe 😜

For some reason I thought there was an environment requirement. Maybe it was just friendly competition to have the largest forests

It is one of our expectations but not a requirement. Refugia is open to all for the most part, but like Refuge said not the Nazi nations even if they have wonderful environmentalism (for whatever reason).

They only plant white pines!

It is easy to miss new nations who join with WA member status or current region member nations who gain WA member status. I would've endorsed everyone if I realized I hadn't endorsed them.

Unrelated note for the message board, but as of last month, glorious Refugia has a discord server. We have parked placed it approximately here, if that interests anyone's interests: https://discord.gg/qGh44TU

I heeeard that you could possible get the Cease to Exist easter egg by having "zombie" in your custom pretitle instead of actually having your nation die. So I'm giving it a go while we're in spooktober and the zombie apocalypse will soon try to kill us all.

I do admit that I mercilessly stole the idea from Sylh Alanor

As far as I know (and this could very well be inaccurate), but I think that they take a day for the qualification to take effect. So after you qualify for an easter egg, it's just kinda waiting for when you'll get the issue. I don't think they're weighted evenly with every other possible issue you could get? Like the favourite colour one I think I got after a day, but with the fourth wall egg I've been waiting for about 14ish months lol

Any thoughts on the current SC proposal?

I voted against the "condemn" thing because this nation didn't really do anything wrong.

And you're our 100th nation. Welcome.

Yeah, but a long time ago. Before I was here.

Welcome to Refugia.

Thank you! I made it myself, I tried to make it as simplistic as possible, but I couldn't decide between blue on the top/green on the bottom and green on the top/blue on the bottom, so I just decided to make it both!

You're is pretty cool too!

Welcome to Refugia! ^_^

I like your flag :O

Also quick addendum welcoming Russderberg, Human Waste, and The Land Of Good Robots, since they popped in so shortly after my last welcome ^-^

It's always nice to have more people in the region, and I hope you consider joining the WA so you can become member nations and increase our influence <3

Rai is a well-known retired Colonel in The Black Hawks, former council member, renowned for Operation Blackout, a raid that was more or less designed to demonstrate that the raiding community was still strong and capable post-Predator and that it was possible to accomplish a massive multi-team raid manually. He is most associated with some infiltration, slipping through passwords and opening regions up to attack.

He's mostly retired now and, outside of advice, his only role is managing TBH's feather (military badge) collection.

In a traditional IC sense (which is theoretically what the Security Council is based on, he has completed a vast array of condemnable actions).

Hello all, just moved here from Social Technocratic Union, things were getting weird in there.

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I'd love to join.

Welcome!!

Let me know if you have any agenda points you would like to add!

I am obliged to remind you that I remain the founder of Refugia and full executive control of the region remains with me. There are no abilities under any foreign power's arsenal that would result in that not being the case, nor any player gaining enough authority in the region to do anything other than make a very fleeting impact on the WFE or embassy list.

Your concerns about possible raids in Refugia is unjustified; it is not mechanically possible.

Hypothetically, if raiding isn't IC condemnable, what is?

If the SC adopts a system to where only defenders may be commended, we will end up in a situation where

1) Condemnations are only used as IC spin on neutral actions like issue writing.

2) Condemnations are not used at all. <--- Recent history favours this one.

In my view, it's hypocritical to not condemn raiders for infiltration when possibly every third person who joins a raiding org is an infiltrator from a defender org, pretending to be everyone's friend, in order to sabotage operations and leak upcoming raids. Practices such as these are just as guilty as raids on natives. The latter is simply justified by saying that raiders deserve it.

It does not make IC sense to commend someone for raiding. You can commend a raider for doing things that are IC-good, such as commend COE (https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_past_resolution/id=310/council=2) who was commended in large part due to his work in TNP and TBH, but not necessarily for raiding with TBH.

So with condemnations, the idea is that you officially recognise someone who has done a good job of playing the villain card, (usually in gameplay) over a long period of time. Raiding is obviously and easily in that department.

That is a fine and valid position to take, and something I also believe in. But I suspect when an inevitable commend Karputsk, or (dear god) a commend Numero Capitan comes up, the crowd will favour the option to say HELL YEAH, DEFENDERS

For the average NS player, though, they're not as interested in WA issues, and most people are entirely unaware of r/d at all, beyond like...inspecific rumours of "I have heard raiders sneak in through your embassies to steal your underwear." You know, so I don't blame them for any misinformation they have. Info like that is distributed by players who have experience in those areas and if you've just got a couple kids who threw together a region for their own enjoyment (which is fine), you're not going to have a resident tutorial i n d i v i d u a l.

Refugia is certainly integrity-aligned, rather than r/d-aligned.

Welcome to Refugia! Endorsed you back!

Welcome Democratic Grog, Dia Hedera, Lambflakitobia, and Daletons! If you have any questions about Refugia (or NS, for those of you who are new to the game), let us know either here or in the Discord. Also, if you haven't already, consider signing up for the World Assembly and cross-endorsing in the region so that we can be more powerful and safe. Being a WA member also gets you access to the map and the ability to vote in our elections and referendums!

The UwUsberg flag was just from a "Trans Anarchist Flag" google search, but i have a similar flag for my second nation Sobek City that i made with flag maker junior

I used a drawing program and tablet to create my own based of the nonbinary flag and symbols of Dionysus.

Hello RMB friends, if you were ever curious about how your nation's classifications are put together, I have made a dispatch with a graph that shows you. Included in this graph is an updated list of all the classifications and how many of each NationStates has in total. This was complied with data from the 12th of October: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1446209 Hope you find it enjoyable.

Also I convey my sincere apologies to mobile users, per usual.

o/ o/

Among other reasons, NS decided it was a great idea to display tables one cell at a time to mobile users 😜

Also graphics become really small like? That and tables makes up 95% of dispatches I like writing, which is sad.

At 113 nations we are 12 below our record high of 125 nations set back on January 20th, 2020.